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For more facts with Adam curry
for October 21 2019. This is

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episode number 12. And this
morning, something strange

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happened at 7:31am I got a text
message from my partner in

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crime, who said, Hey, man, let's
talk about the title today what

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we're going to be doing. Good
morning, Moe. How are you?

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Hi. How you doing, sir? I'm
doing I'm doing well. Yeah, so I

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really

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appreciate your call. He said,
Okay, man, we're going for the

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mother lode. This is the big
one. Just want to let you know,

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I don't want you to be
blindsided now.

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So go for the big one here. Yes,

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the big one is,

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is white privilege. Nice, white,
white guilt, white supremacy.

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It's the trifecta. Very nice.
Yes.

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You can't discuss one without
the other. That's right. That's

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right.

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This is something that I've been
very interested in. I've, I've

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posited my own theories about
not so much about the origin of

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white guilt. But what white
guilt has done to wokeness. Or

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perhaps I would say, created
wokeness. And it's very

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interesting to me, man, I am
excited to hear what you've got

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to roll out for

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us. So this this start, oh, we
got a lot of clips today. So I

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want to jump right in. So this
started with a DM you sent me

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from a New York Times article
talking about the effects of

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white guilt on the 2020
election. So I was gonna do this

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last week. But the NBA and
China,

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it was it was it had to go we
had to get it on then. And by

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the way, we finished that show.
Just before LeBron James came

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out with his whole like, well,
you know, who could have hurt

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someone financially. So that was
we didn't get it in that show.

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But it was interesting how it
unfolded.

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It was very interesting. Hi
unfolded. And one thing I didn't

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notice that came up was shut up
in dribble white supremacy or

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any other kowtow into the powers
that be know exactly. That goes

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to show you people pick and
choose when they want to use

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these terms. So what we're going
to talk about today is white

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guilt. And to talk about white
guilt, we have to go back, we

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always have to go back to the
root of these things. So I found

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it on the root of white guilt.
Is White supremacy. For the

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people that don't know. found it
interesting. It was a well, you

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want to call it a speaking
engagement by Mr. Shelby Steele.

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Are you familiar with Mr. Shall
we still sir? No,

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I don't think so. Alright, so

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shall we still he's, he's the
conservative, I have to say

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that. He's the author and senior
fellow at Stanford University.

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And he wrote the book on white
guilt, the actual book on white

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guilt,

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and what is the book called
white guilt? Yes. Okay. All

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right.

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So he was given a speech and not
this, the speech that he gave,

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or speaking against a speaking
engagement that he gave is going

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to be the backdrop of this whole
show. So we're gonna go in and

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out of that speaking engagement,
and then have supplemental

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clips. Okay. So what he's saying
what he's saying the

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the title of the book is white
guilt, how blacks and whites

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together destroyed the pomp
promise of the civil era. Yes.

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Okay. Got it.

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So I guess we'll jump right in
with white supremacy. One

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is begins it seems to me in a
phenomenon that, I think at any

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rate is one of the most
important important events

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certainly in in late 20th
century history. I think, even

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more important than the collapse
of communism. That happened in

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the 80s. And that is the
collapse or the de

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legitimization to use the long
awkward word of white supremacy.

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And it's, it has seemed it's
interesting to me that this this

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phenomenon has gone unremarked
on commented on in many ways.

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But white supremacy was an
enormously important force idea

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in the world for centuries and
organized the entire globe and

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an extended the nation state
system from one end of the world

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to the other so it's it's mark
will will never leave the world.

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And it gave a cohere Hear us to
the world.

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All right, I love it history
lesson.

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Yes. So he's speaking about how
white supremacy supposedly he's

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a believer. Let me clarify, he's
a believer that white supremacy

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ended, are basically went
underground and had no power

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after the Civil Rights Movement,
which is my personal belief. I

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don't think that's to be so I am
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But I want to, in this show,
clearly, clearly define what I

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believe is to be white
supremacy. And the reason why

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that is important to white guilt
is, let me explain the relation

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between the three things that we
laid out, we have white

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supremacy, white privilege, and
then white guilt. The way they

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are related is that if there is
a system of white supremacy

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desist, if you appear to be
quote unquote, white, then you

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unknowingly, or normally receive
privileges from being a camp to

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that system. Right. And also
from being a camp to that

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system, and receiving those
privileges. Some people are made

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to feel guilty of that. So
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and that sounds about right. And
it was, for me, it was I'm gonna

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say about four years ago, my now
wife, then, girlfriend at the

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time, Tina, we had a dinner at
here in Austin with some people

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I affectionately called the
Obama bots. And they knew that

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and, you know, we discussed
pretty much politics and

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everything like that
specifically. So I would have

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content for the no agenda Show
podcast, so it was okay with

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them. But at this one particular
dinner, there was a professor

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from UT Austin Pennebaker, I'm
actually a big fan of what he's

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done with performative, he wrote
a book about, well, you should

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look it up performative. Then
Professor Pennebaker and his

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wife were both there. And at a
certain point, he said, Excuse

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me, you've got white privilege,
you know that right? And no one

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had ever said that, to me, I'd
never really even heard the

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term. And I was offended by him
saying that, that now since that

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time, of course, you know, a lot
has happened. I've kept my eyes

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and my ears open. But I do
remember the initial, the

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initial accusation to me was
triggering. And that's just a

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little bit of history what I
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And I can see why that would be
triggering. The term white

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privilege didn't really
circulate in the black

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community. That term now the
understanding that

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according to Wikimedia,
according to Wikipedia, it

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didn't really start until black
lives matter. Now. That's wiki

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pedia. So take that with what
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believe that's when even if it
existed, it may exist in the

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academic, academic realm, where
in everyday life, you know, a

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minute, that seems like white
privilege, you know, what black

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guy talks like that?

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We know, we know. For instance,
I'll give you a great example of

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what white privilege would be.
One guy gets hot water outside

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crack, and he gets 20 years and
another guy gets caught with an

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ounce of coke. And he gets a
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Yeah, this is a very clear case
of I mean, the whole thing was

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messed up. And that's mainly the
crack epidemic in Los Angeles.

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And the elites who decided that
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crack you know, as Whitney
Houston would say, crack is

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wack. And by the classy cocaine,
so it was a classist thing in a

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way and a price point thing, but
of course, it was. It was a it

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screwed over black people in Los
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crack for sure.

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Yes, and we see how another drug
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has been handled. It's a white,
white problem. So we can't say

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these things don't exist. But
let's not get too far ahead of

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ourselves. Because what we need
to do is one identify if we have

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to what I plan to do with this
whole show, our episode is to

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one identify accurately identify
and define what white supremacy

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is right now. Because then if
people understand what that is,

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then they'll understand what the
white privileges are or what a

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white privilege appears to be.
And then how people bastardize

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these terms and accurately on
personal gain and or to trigger

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other people

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and I would want to ask up
front, maybe this is coming

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later down the road. White
supremacy is also often inter

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intertwined with the term
institutional racism? Are these

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the same things? Is it the same?
Or we will just would just

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Should I just sit back and relax
and we'll find out what? Well,

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go through these next set of
clips. And then we'll, we will

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clearly identify what white
supremacy is, by the end of

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next, like three or four clips,
let's get into Shelby Steele,

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white supremacy to

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the important thing, I think to
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supremacy, is not whether or not
it really is an argument for the

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supremacy of whites or the
inferiority of other races. But

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what was important about it was
the idea that whiteness

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constituted in and of itself,
moral authority. And so that if

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a black man in Africa met a
white man on a path somewhere,

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and there were no there was no
one around within 50 miles, the

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black man would have to carry
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whiteness was authority. And,
and thus it was in those it was

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power. And so whites then could,
could very given given that

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authority could very reasonably
go around the world and take

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over whatever territories they
they desired and to take

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whatever resources they desired.
And to then sort of corral the

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people into some sort of
servitude if it's so suited them

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well, so you see, it was a
really powerful, enormously

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powerful idea that made gave a
certain meaning to life

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in the world. Right? This is the
times of colonialism I presume.

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This is from colonialism all the
way up to the Civil Rights is

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what he's speaking of. Now,
where me and Mr. Shelby Steele

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part ways is he believes that
white supremacy no longer

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exists. Or like I say, it has
become so cleanse debt

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clandestine that it doesn't
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where I disagree with him. So
now we're going to get into some

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some clips from Mr. Neely
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give you some background on him.
He's well highly touted Mr.

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Neely fuller Jr. His full name
he was born in October 6 1929.

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So just to give you a from his
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two branches of the armed
forces. He served in the Army in

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the Korean War conflict. Um so
he, he took part in the American

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dream. He took part in you know,
in fighting wars for America. So

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Because he could speak he could
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from all angles on this topic.
And when I'm when I bring people

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like Mr. Shelby Steele to the
table or Mr. Neely fuller says

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table, it's just on that
particular topic. They speak

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home. So myself, I believe Neely
Fuller, accurately defines

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racism, racism and white
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Well, there's we are on our
system of white supremacy.

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That's the most powerful
government that the world has

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ever seen. And that's the title
of it. By the way, it doesn't go

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by now the title even though we
sometimes call it by other

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titles, but the accurate title
for the government that we are

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under is in the capital letters,
the system of white supremacy

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worldwide. It's just one world
government. And that's the only

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government in town knowing the
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really counts. That is worthy of
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Whoa, okay, hold

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on. While while he was saying
this is the One World Government

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which is a very globalist term
familiar without of course New

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World Order. I looked up the
definition of supremacy and it's

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a while this Ascendance
domination, Dominion hegemony,

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Imperium examples of supremacy
in a sentence the Roman Empire

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had supremacy over the entire
Mediterranean world. Yes, yes.

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Yes. Yes. It seems he worried
there he were there am higher

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than empire. Yes, sir. Okay,
great. Oh, man. I love the

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dictionary.

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So I think this is why me and
you Adam could have these

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Conversations, because we're
coming and identifying the same

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thing by different terms. Even
Mr. Fuller even identify, so you

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can call it different names. I
think you call it a elitism or

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the elites. But there is a
governing system in this world.

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And a one world government is
trying to trick being trying to

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be pushed. Yes, and

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this is a frequent topic for us
on this show. It's a frequent,

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you're right, it is why we have
always been able to communicate

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completely at the same level,
because we hold the same beliefs

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of, of this type of shenanigans
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And that's why when I first
became an NA listener, I

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understood exactly what you guys
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were calling this system by a
different name. So let's go on

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and let Neely fuller. Define the
system, even more

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people who believe in dominating
and mistreating people based on

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color, in the form of what we
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Those people collectively, are
the dominant force in all nine

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areas of activity on this planet
that we call are in every area

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of activity, 24/7 economics,
education, entertainment, labor,

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law, politics, religion, sex,
and war. And they believe in

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dominating and mistreating
people based on color. They are

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the smartest and most powerful
men and women on the planet.

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Unfortunately, that's the way it
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Where's the list? Give me the
list of these people that have

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the least

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he said, it's these dominant men
and women give me the list right

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away. I want to know who it is.
Because that's what I've been

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looking for, for at least 30
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Well, we know who it is, and we
don't know who it is. We have no

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idea who it is. I mean, we point
to almost every show. It's this.

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It's the Soros is of the world.
And even the level above him. I

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think we use Soros as a icon of
a way of thinking,

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yeah, representation. Sure.
Absolutely. Right.

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Right. So we use him as a to
point to like, this is how they

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work. This is how they operate.
But you don't have to be in

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this. This is where we get into
race and color and these things.

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You don't have to be white, to
operate and be a agent of white

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supremacy. The reason why I say
this is Barack Obama was an

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agent of white supremacy. Yep.
He pushed the agenda of

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globalism. When you go to the
UN, you see many faces of

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different colors. But they're
pushing they received their

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power from this power structure.
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that power structure. And I
think those people are even more

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beneficial when they don't look
like your typical iconic, for

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lack of better word white
supremacist, and I know we're

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using that word a lot. But for
the people that get triggered by

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that we have something for Adam.

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Oh, yes. If you got something we
got? We got. But if I get

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triggered, then I hit this one.
What more do you want from me?

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What what's what's what's
interesting? What's interesting

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is that now I lost my train.
Alright, go continue. Well, I'll

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come back to as good

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now. So just the system, like I
said, it's a system, if you want

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to call it elite, if you want to
call it the Illuminati, if you

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want to call I mean, it's a
elite. And we have to be honest,

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as you go up this pyramid, pun
intended. The appearance is

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start to look the same. Now to
do a one to one correlation to

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say all everybody that looks
like that benefits from this

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system. I think that's pretty
inaccurate. They can move

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inconspicuously in the system,
but I don't think they benefit

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from it. The reason why I say
that is and this will always say

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why American slavery was
different from any other

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slavery, probably in the world
or in history. Even if I bought

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my freedom in American slavery,
I will always be identified as a

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slave by my appearance. Whereas
throughout history, my enslaved

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my the people that slave me,
will look like Let me do two, we

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were, you know, geographically
close or, you know, are just

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different tribes or different
clans or countries. So I think

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that's the difference. Why color
and race factor into this form

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of empire?

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Right. Whereas I think I've
always made it clear that we're

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all really slaves of Gitmo
nation. And I think that's kind

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of what I mean by there's a
system up there, and you know,

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we're all and we all have to
adhere to it, or we're expected

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to adhere to it, regardless of
color.

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What's the Comenius? 90 says?
It's the club a when, when

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George Carlin

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had to be a band, you ain't in
it? Right?

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Very few of us are in it. So
let's get let's finish out with

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Mr. Neely fuller as if coop? Oh,
let me say this. So we, I think

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he's accurately identified what
this system is. And I think me

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and you agree that there is a
governing body over the world

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that may call the shots. Now, we
might call it different names.

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But I think we're identifying
the same ruling class.

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Absolutely. So Mr. Neely Fuller,
is gonna lay out how you fix

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that problem.

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Now, that's a problem. It's a
huge problem, because nobody on

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the planet should be dominated
and mistreated based on

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anything, whether it's coal or
anything else. But that's what

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this alone is a system that we
have on the planet, we don't

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have any other system. There are
no other systems, none. Zilch.

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So, the question is, what would
you please replace that system

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with? Logically speaking, since
it is a system of non justice,

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you replace it with a system of
justice, which means what? Two

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elements according to what I
have written anyway, and that is

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guarantee end, no person is
mistreated. And guaranteeing

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that the person that needs help
the most gets the most

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constructive help. Now, that's
what you go to the table with

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each and every day each and
every time, wherever you are on

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the planet. That that's the kind
of plan that you want.

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Okay, so we've seen this word
pop up. Justice. Yes, this is a

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favorite word of left. In the
United States. Certainly the

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Democrats always talk about
justice, this justice that

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whereas the right or the
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liberty, and freedom, and

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justice is a big now you can
Yes, now you can see why how

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it's being hijacked. Right?
Because at the real root of the

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problem, and this goes back to
two shows ago, when we talked

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about the the cop shooting case,
yep. All everyone wanted was

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justice, or what they perceived
to be justice. And when that

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doesn't happen, it only in
flames, that the system exists

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or appears to exist. Now, we dug
deeper and understood the

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interacting so that the case,
but on the outer surface, yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Go I'm
sorry. Yeah, social justice.

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Well, this is where social
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course. Yes. Makes sense.

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Yeah, so Dude, we've heard we
hear people talk about this all

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the time. And we heard in recent
news, even a political candidate

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of the 2020 election talk about
this one being Mrs. Tulsi

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Gabbard. Gabbard, excuse me, the
regime change wars. What is

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that? When you go in to change
the way a country is running

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itself, just off of the benefits
to economics, that is an example

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of this system.

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Oh, yes. And no, by and this
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time. But I would start for the
US just in recent memory, the

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Vietnam War, you know, so what's
the commies? Oh, man, we can't

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have the communist coming. Any
closer to our interests in the

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Middle East as well, I think is
generally accepted by the

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population now that oh, well,
that was just about oil or

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something. But in in essence, it
was it's much bigger. And going

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back to the Paris 1912 agreement
and how the Middle East was

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divided up that was done by the
white privilege system. Isn't

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there's no doubt about it. No
one can argue that.

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So this is where, like I said
before, Shelby Steele, he says

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that the system of white
supremacy no longer is This war,

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I think is I think that it
shifted. It became not by force

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or by intimidation. It became
economic. As we've all read in

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the book, whoever read the book,
the economic hitman, John

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Perkins, one of my favorite
books, yes, they infiltrate the

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country's. They leverage the
people in charge. And then the

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people in charge basically
becomes puppets of the systems

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of the system. So we have a clip
from the economic hitman

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himself.

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It is catching up with John
Perkins economist, activist and

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author, one of his best selling
books, Confessions of an

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economic hitman has been
translated into over 30

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languages, it is an insider's
account of the alleged

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exploitation of third world
countries by the American

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government. Sir, thank you very
much for sitting down with us.

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You have been an economic hitman
for about 10 years. What

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exactly does that job entail? We
economic hitmen have created the

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world's first truly global
empire? And is the first empire

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in history that's been created
primarily without the military

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through economics?

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Yes, this is he worked for
Bechtel Corporation, very

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similar, or even KBR. These are
the Kellogg, brown and root.

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These are the companies that
with or without war, go into

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other countries, either take
stuff, buy stuff, bring in

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Western companies to rebuild the
rubble that has been created and

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take over. And he also speaks of
the jackals who they will send

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in when people in these other
countries resist to the regime

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change.

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So you have a list of countries
that were planned to be

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destabilize in Roblox is the
word you like to use?

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Yes, I call it I call it the
West Clark seven. And I have the

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clip, if you want me to play
that I don't.

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Because you do that as a
background just to show how we

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identify Not we, but how the
Empire identifies countries they

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need to take over and then they
come up with a reason how to do

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it.

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Yeah. So let me just make sure I
get the right one here. General

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Wesley Clark, two weeks after
911 was called, I think, into

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the Pentagon. And it was there
that he was handed a note that

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talked about the countries we
were going to go after, because

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of this 911 disaster. And he was
kind enough to actually tell us,

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so I came back to see him a few
weeks later. And by that time,

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we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, Are we still going to

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war with Iraq? And he said, Oh,
what's worse than that? He said,

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He reached over on his desk, he
picked up a piece of paper. He

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said, I just he said I just got
this down from upstairs mean,

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circulated Vince's office today.
And he said this a memo that

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describes how we're going to
take out seven countries in five

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years, starting with Iraq, and
then Syria, Lebanon, Libya,

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Somalia, Sudan, and finishing
off Iran.

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And I've kept track of this
list. And just recently, in

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fact, we talked about it
yesterday on the no agenda show.

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It looks like Lebanon may be on
deck, we've got pretty much

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every other country. If not that
we've gone in there. We've We've

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got them in our sights. And
that's obvious. You know, the

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final, the final one on the
list, there is Iran. So that

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would be the big one. And well,
and you only have to look at the

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news to know what's going on. So
yeah, it's the system has not

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slowed down since General Wesley
Clark mentioned those seven

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countries.

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So either he had a crystal ball,
or those countries were

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identified as targets. And we
were just looking for a reason

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or a way in to attack those
countries. So we have another

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clip from the economic hitman.
And he details the process of

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how they actually take over
countries.

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And we work many different ways
economic hitman, but perhaps the

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most common is that we will
identify a third world country

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that has resources our
corporations covet, like oil,

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and then arrange a huge loan to
that country from the World Bank

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or one of its sister
organizations, but the money

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never actually goes to the
country. Instead, it goes to our

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own corporations to build big
infrastructure projects in that

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country. Things like power
plants and industrial parks and

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highways, the benefit of few
wealthy families in that

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country, as well as our own
corporations, but don't help the

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majority of the people. The
whole country is less holding

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this huge debt.

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Being so it's all so it's all
about debt. It's all about

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leverage. And He said third
world countries, and most of the

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third world countries are people
of color, which I hate that

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term. But

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well, no, why you are? You're
correct. And we have even more

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recent examples of this. With
the European Union, Greece was

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completely obliterated
economically, financially and

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targeted by the International
Monetary Fund. Big hedge funds,

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Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and
the place is still in shambles.

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We're going on 15 years now, of
what's been happening there. And

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yes, the Greeks are a little
darker than the Northern

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Europeans.

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And I'll as I always say,
specifically, I just could speak

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from my group of people, we feel
the impact first, we're kind of

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like, let's run the test plan on
them. And if it works, then we

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will take it abroad, or we'll
take it and then eventually, it

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filters out until all of all of
the population of noni leaves.

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So we've seen this, and we've
been telling people that when

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you hear terms like the man or
the suits, right, oh, wow. What

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is that referring to?

441
00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:26,520
them? Are they? There's a lot of
them? They Yeah,

442
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:32,790
sure. Right. So um, let's finish
up with the economic hitman.

443
00:31:33,030 --> 00:31:36,210
And it's such a big debt that
they can't repay it. So at some

444
00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:39,960
point, we economic hitmen go
back to them and say, you can't

445
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,710
pay your debts. So give us a
pound of flesh, sell your oil,

446
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:46,980
real cheap to our oil companies,
or vote with us on the next

447
00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:50,160
critical United Nations vote,
were sent troops and supportive

448
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,600
hours to someplace in the world
like Iraq, when we fail, then

449
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:58,110
what we call the jackals step in
and these are people who

450
00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:00,960
overthrow governments or
assassinate their leaders. And

451
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,040
on the very few occasions when
both economic hitmen and the

452
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,210
jackals fail, as we both did in
Iraq, then and only then does

453
00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:12,330
the military step in. And it's
pretty secret, because most

454
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:14,400
people in the United States
don't realize that they're

455
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,190
reaping the benefits from this
empire, they don't realize about

456
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:21,360
the exploitation of resources
and environments and people and

457
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:24,930
sweatshops and so on all over
the world are a result of this.

458
00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:29,520
I think it's fair to say that
this process is a huge threat to

459
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,910
democracy. And if the majority
of the people who vote in the

460
00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:35,460
country don't understand this
most basic principle of our

461
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:38,730
foreign policy, then we're not
informed. If we're not informed

462
00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:41,790
as to how to say that we're
voting truly democratically,

463
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,200
which I think is a big concern.

464
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,360
You know, as he talks in, it
just reminds me of his book,

465
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:54,270
which is still one of my
favorites. It's interesting that

466
00:32:54,270 --> 00:32:59,730
the Chinese are adhering to a
complete economic hitman

467
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:08,820
operation mainly across Africa,
but many other countries. Okay,

468
00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:13,590
I hit something there. Yes,
maybe across Africa. Yes. Now,

469
00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:17,880
this is not white privilege, per
se. Because you can't say the

470
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:25,020
Chinese are white. But, you
know, Caucasian. I've wondered

471
00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:27,900
when once someone told me, Hey,
you know, you're Caucasian and

472
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,200
like, Oh, okay. So there's a
relation there, perhaps.

473
00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:37,590
And there's a color spectrum
there. Yeah. In Asia, the higher

474
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:44,700
you go up, the closer to, quote
unquote, white that you get. And

475
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:47,520
this is where colorism comes in.
All the shows that we had

476
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,600
previous to this

477
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,720
is just it's just been this is
the crescendo. This is the

478
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,640
climax is the

479
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,770
climax. And when when, when the
economic hitman going into those

480
00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:02,310
countries or the country, they
speak to the Boulais. Yeah,

481
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:06,990
every country, every creative
man had a Boulais to say, You

482
00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:11,190
know what, we see the bigger
picture. You know, somebody's

483
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:15,150
got a bit of benefit from this
Washington to be us. And then

484
00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:22,440
we'll help our people in the
end, and we saw that and my

485
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,090
group of people, it was people
that took deals on our behalf.

486
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:31,350
And then when they didn't want
to comply, they say in the

487
00:34:31,350 --> 00:34:37,260
actual hitman, or the jackals,
right. So I mean, it's, this is

488
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:41,790
what we're looking at. So,
mister, going back to Mr. Shelby

489
00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:46,560
Steele and him and his speech,
and he's going to speak on civil

490
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,130
rights.

491
00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:51,480
In 1964. We passed the civil
rights bill in the United States

492
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560
in 1965. We passed the voting
rights, the Voting Rights Act.

493
00:34:55,890 --> 00:34:58,680
Both of these acts these in the
I think they are some of the

494
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,260
greatest social legislation
never passed anywhere in the

495
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:05,280
world ever written anywhere in
the world. There the model for,

496
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:11,820
for other such legislation
around the world. And inherent

497
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:16,860
in the in this legislation was
the acknowledgement on the part

498
00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:21,570
of America, that it had done
something very wrong, that

499
00:35:21,570 --> 00:35:25,200
racism was wrong, that slavery
was wrong that segregation was

500
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,660
wrong, that white supremacy
itself was wrong. I think this

501
00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:38,760
was America's greatest moment.
Here was a nation that morally

502
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:44,670
came to terms with itself faced
itself. I'm not aware of this,

503
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:47,520
maybe it has happened, but I'm
not aware of it anywhere else in

504
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,480
the world before this happening.
We're a society, rich and

505
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:57,240
powerful looks at itself
examines itself in the way that

506
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:01,890
America did at that period of
time, and makes the decision to

507
00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:07,110
change and acknowledges the
wrong and vows to become a

508
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:08,640
different kind of society.

509
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:13,500
It's interesting how such a
seminal moment in American

510
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:17,610
history is used as such a club
these days just to beat people

511
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:18,420
over the head with

512
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,560
Yes, and it was it. I'm gonna
sound cynical, but was it a

513
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,460
seminal moment? The reason why I
asked it asked that question is,

514
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:35,100
he said, this country took a
look at yourself and plying a

515
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:40,320
reflection or a mirror. Adam, do
you know what that mirror was?

516
00:36:42,810 --> 00:36:47,700
Huh? No. The television screen?

517
00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:53,400
I feel like a dope. That was an
E it was like that was another

518
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:59,370
ally you for the curry Meister?
Yes, of course. Of course. And

519
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,490
telephone a lot to do with that.
Yes, sir.

520
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:07,290
When these images started making
their way on television, whether

521
00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:13,380
they were staged are naturally
occurring. It made people feel

522
00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:20,190
one one shame. Because like,
how, how can this happen? Oh,

523
00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:26,190
and two, way out of shame comes
guilt. Correct? Yes. So we start

524
00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:32,070
seeing the correlations here.
Yes, yes. So let's go and look

525
00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:34,950
at the role of media in the
civil rights.

526
00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:42,060
As a story, the Civil Rights
Movement had it all. Good versus

527
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:46,830
evil, drama, social upheaval.
But at first America's major

528
00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:49,650
media ignored it, especially in
the South.

529
00:37:49,890 --> 00:37:55,140
It was our responsibility to
find a way to dramatize the

530
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:55,590
issue

531
00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:58,740
was Congressman John Lewis says
that the movements leaders

532
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:03,060
realized to bring change, they
needed to reach white Americans.

533
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:04,350
How did you do that?

534
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:10,320
As a movement. We literally put
our bodies on the line.

535
00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:13,020
Jim fluence on the Civil Rights
coverage,

536
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,190
Hank klibanoff co wrote the race
beat a book about the media and

537
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:17,880
the movement.

538
00:38:18,029 --> 00:38:21,779
Well, race was a big story in
the south beginning in the 40s

539
00:38:21,779 --> 00:38:24,299
and 50s. It's just that no one
knew about it.

540
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:29,370
Finally, by 1957 Major northern
newspapers discover the drama

541
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:32,580
and the story. How do you feel
about integrated passengers that

542
00:38:32,580 --> 00:38:36,150
television networks followed,
even major southern media paid

543
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:40,140
attention to the open hatred,
you got to kick the white in the

544
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:43,830
black set and the violent
response to peaceful protest?

545
00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:48,450
If you're gonna beat us, beat us
in the light of day, beat us

546
00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:49,590
while the cameras on

547
00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:55,200
on gov. This was Selma, Alabama,
1965. Among the bloodied John

548
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,830
Lewis,

549
00:38:56,130 --> 00:39:00,900
American people could not stand
to see young children and all

550
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:05,190
women being knocked down by fire
hoses and chased by police

551
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:05,670
stole.

552
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,860
Yeah, you know. I'm just a
little bit too young to have

553
00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:13,920
witnessed all that until I have
other experiences from the from

554
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,680
the late 60s, which we may get
into later. But yeah, oh, man,

555
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,970
of course. You when You showed
normal, rational people what was

556
00:39:20,970 --> 00:39:25,350
going on and how people were
willing to put themselves into

557
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:28,620
the line of fire, so to speak,
it definitely had an impact.

558
00:39:28,650 --> 00:39:29,580
Very powerful.

559
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:38,100
Yeah, and so even John Lewis
said, we had to dramatize Yeah,

560
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:47,640
his words. Yeah, dramatize even
so much so. Ah. Rosa Parks

561
00:39:47,850 --> 00:39:49,530
wasn't in the first Rosa Parks.

562
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:53,160
Oh, man. Mo don't blow my mind
now.

563
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:56,970
Claudette Colvin? Oh, yes,

564
00:39:56,970 --> 00:39:58,980
I do know this name, of course.
Uh huh.

565
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,320
Make sure I have the name right.
I know how the story right? But

566
00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:08,970
yeah Clotet COVID Si, si o l Vi
n, if you want to look at who

567
00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:12,690
for those who don't look it up.
She was the original Rosa Parks.

568
00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:21,240
Only problem is one she had
illegitimate children. So she

569
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:21,990
didn't make for

570
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:25,770
the perfect. She's not the not
the right casting for the role.

571
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:32,100
Right also some say some
slightly esteemed ether, that

572
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:39,360
she was too dark for the role as
well, because we all know Rosa

573
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,650
Parks was fair skinned. And it
happened to be a work for the

574
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:49,080
NAACP. Right. So I mean, just to
go show you the dramatization,

575
00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:52,920
not taking anything away from
these people that like I say he

576
00:40:52,950 --> 00:41:00,720
they put their bodies on the
line. But if you understand that

577
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,390
television is going to be a
problem. And there's there's a

578
00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:06,810
correlation here because we've
seen the civil rights movement.

579
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:12,090
With the technology increasing
with television, we see a one on

580
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:16,530
one correlation with the the
increase in technology with the

581
00:41:16,530 --> 00:41:22,140
new television, ie the
smartphone and outrage, and

582
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:29,700
Silviu social justice movements

583
00:41:29,790 --> 00:41:34,770
only now it's a lot, it's a lot
easier to mess with people's

584
00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:40,440
brains and social media. It's so
ready just to put stuff into

585
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,160
people's heads and imagery and
memes is really important in

586
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,280
this means, oh, my goodness, you
know, the modern carrier

587
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,710
will say the same thing about
they will say the same thing

588
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,730
about television. And those
times Absolutely. Where it was,

589
00:41:53,730 --> 00:41:57,240
he said there used to be just a
picture in the newspaper, maybe

590
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:02,820
a radio story. But now when you
could put motion picture, people

591
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:07,080
being blown over by water hoses,
dogs attacking them, it was very

592
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,120
beneficial to, to the movement,
enact that chain. Well.

593
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,940
In fact, to this day, this type
of tactic is being used with

594
00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:22,620
Hong Kong, where messages are
being are circulating everywhere

595
00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:26,970
of Tiananmen Square. There's no
one photo that shows dead bodies

596
00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:32,010
will just run over by tanks. And
you know, this is brought into

597
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:35,880
this Hong Kong situation
continuously. Just as an aside

598
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,240
mo very interesting to me that
Claudette Colvin has no

599
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:44,760
Wikipedia entry. That tells you
something right there, doesn't

600
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,290
it? Yeah.

601
00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:52,770
But it's funny that you say
about the memes and the visuals.

602
00:42:53,040 --> 00:43:00,210
Because in Hong Kong, the
eyepatch. Yeah, is the is the

603
00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:05,070
imagery or the symbolism for
Hong Kong now. Yeah, so much so

604
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:07,170
and it's finished. This is
funny, and we won't get back on

605
00:43:07,170 --> 00:43:12,480
track here that the One World
System is eating itself, because

606
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,030
now they're pulling all the one
eye Illuminati symbolism because

607
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:24,180
they're scared above me now.

608
00:43:25,590 --> 00:43:29,070
Oh, my goodness, I hadn't even
hadn't even thought about that.

609
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,040
The one the all seeing eye and
the eye patch.

610
00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:34,470
You know, the models they love
to do the

611
00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:36,720
Yeah. The triangle and

612
00:43:37,410 --> 00:43:42,000
all that crap. Yes, they're
pulling it all because here to

613
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,430
be symbolism to Hong Kong. Nice.
Alright, so getting back to the

614
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:51,780
media and the civil rights
movement, movement to we will

615
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:52,230
drama

616
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:56,700
times this whole situation by
marching by the 1000s.

617
00:43:56,970 --> 00:44:00,180
Television also found Martin
Luther King's, the Reverend

618
00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:04,560
Martin Luther King, Jr. will
face the nation, Americans heard

619
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,260
a leader who shattered racial
stereotypes.

620
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,330
We feel that the time has come
for a full scale assault on the

621
00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:13,950
system of segregation.

622
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,580
This man is someone you could
actually talk to and who seemed

623
00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:20,670
quite reasonable for white
Southerners. This was new

624
00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:24,150
information and part of a
national awakening.

625
00:44:24,509 --> 00:44:27,899
It was the media that carried a
message to the rest of the

626
00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:28,349
nation.

627
00:44:28,529 --> 00:44:33,329
Protest became progress once the
media woke up. And Americans

628
00:44:33,389 --> 00:44:39,779
Rosa. Mark Strassman, CBS News,
Atlanta.

629
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,660
dramatized dramatize right off
the bat. Yeah.

630
00:44:47,340 --> 00:44:50,280
So So we've seen how

631
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,370
I'm sorry. For his many times.
I've heard Martin Luther King

632
00:44:53,370 --> 00:44:57,060
speeches. It never hit me. When
he said dramat They'd never hit

633
00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:01,740
me. And just now Oh, okay. Of
course. He was, you know, he's

634
00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:04,080
the 60s version of memes.

635
00:45:05,339 --> 00:45:09,209
And he was perfect for the role.
It was young. Great, great

636
00:45:09,209 --> 00:45:17,729
voice. Great. You're saying, Ah,
awesome. Speaker. And just he

637
00:45:17,729 --> 00:45:19,859
would like to say perfect for
the role that they were looking

638
00:45:19,859 --> 00:45:24,479
for a young, a young black
articulate man, that was camera

639
00:45:24,479 --> 00:45:25,289
friendly, friendly.

640
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:28,620
When you said that. I'm sorry,
when you say he was perfect for

641
00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:30,540
what they were looking for.

642
00:45:31,110 --> 00:45:39,180
Yes, they being Balete. Just
checking that yeah, the day

643
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:46,740
pretty much. Yeah, big vague.
Gotcha. Yeah. So and but what

644
00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:53,040
was his message nonviolence? Not
gonna cause too much trouble. He

645
00:45:53,040 --> 00:46:00,540
was palatable, too, to the what?
What was the other option?

646
00:46:00,630 --> 00:46:04,380
Yeah, well, he also had got on
his side that made that easier.

647
00:46:05,130 --> 00:46:05,640
Yes.

648
00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:12,360
So this is the source of
shaming. And like I said,

649
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,150
before, we look at the
relationship between shaming and

650
00:46:15,150 --> 00:46:19,200
guilt. So now we go back to Mr.
Shelby Steele, and he explains

651
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,150
to us further what white guilt
is.

652
00:46:21,390 --> 00:46:25,440
So White guilt, then is not a
guilt of conscience. It's not,

653
00:46:25,470 --> 00:46:28,440
um, I can't sleep at night,
because I'm so guilty about what

654
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:36,540
happened to black Americans
before I was born, it's not that

655
00:46:36,540 --> 00:46:40,590
kind of if White guilt was that,
then we wouldn't be here today

656
00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:43,950
talking about this, this
phenomenon, but it is this

657
00:46:43,950 --> 00:46:49,230
vacuum of moral authority, just
not be not having the authority

658
00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:53,880
to be able to speak about any
number of issues, race, poverty,

659
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:59,730
and so forth, because of having
acknowledged this, this past,

660
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:07,800
the sins of the past. White
Guilt is enforced, by us by

661
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:14,220
stigma. When when you
acknowledge that you were a part

662
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:17,070
of a group that you belong to a
group that did it wrong in the

663
00:47:17,070 --> 00:47:19,980
past, think if you want to, I
think see this in vivid terms,

664
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:28,350
think of the Germans after World
War Two, the stigma of having

665
00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:33,480
been a Nazi having a Nazi in
your family, an uncle who was

666
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:39,660
whatever? Well, you might not,
you might yourself not have been

667
00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:43,620
a Nazi might not might never
have subscribe to that point of

668
00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:48,480
view. But outside of Germany,
all Germans, in a sense became

669
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:54,960
from from then on stigmatized by
the sin of Nazism. And other

670
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,140
people could look at them and
have a certain again, moral

671
00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:01,710
authority in relation to them.
Well, in many ways, I think

672
00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:04,680
that's what happened in in
America, whites became

673
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:11,220
stigmatized, as as racist. And
from that point on, whites are

674
00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:14,490
in the position of forever
having to prove the negative,

675
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,080
that they're not a racist.

676
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:20,010
Wow, this is very good. And I
hadn't considered that

677
00:48:20,490 --> 00:48:25,170
comparison. Having grown up in
the Netherlands, where many of

678
00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:29,010
my friends grandparents had, you
know, spheroid numbers tattooed

679
00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:33,870
on their forearms from from the
concentration camp. You know,

680
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:38,850
there were Germans in Holland
all the time, either on business

681
00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:42,540
or vacationing. And as I grew
older, you know, we had Germans

682
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:48,330
who we'd be friends with or
whatever. And it was, to me at

683
00:48:48,330 --> 00:48:53,040
least always obvious, they were
really trying to be nice. You

684
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,380
know, they were the new Germans.
And I think someone actually

685
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:57,750
said it to me one time to get
where the new German Shannon

686
00:48:57,750 --> 00:49:02,610
this is, and they definitely are
very cognizant of their past.

687
00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:07,710
And and yeah, I guess it is a
form of oh, man, we were really

688
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:10,290
assholes in the in the past. And
so I just want you to know,

689
00:49:10,290 --> 00:49:13,350
we're not like that. We're cool,
man. We're okay, we're, but

690
00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:17,640
still, and this is where it gets
tough. These grandparents, that

691
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,720
would always be wary, that he's
German, you know, so there was

692
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,990
this period, before everybody
dies off. It takes a while. And

693
00:49:24,990 --> 00:49:29,970
I think now, rarely does anyone
even make a joke about Germans

694
00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:32,790
being Nazis, whereas that used
to be kind of normal. You could

695
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:36,090
say to a German guy. Yeah, I
know how you'd like to dominate.

696
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,310
You know, you could say that
stuff, and you'd have a good

697
00:49:38,310 --> 00:49:41,460
laugh over it. But now that's
kind of gone. And that so that's

698
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:48,840
in less than, you know, so what
is that? 80 7080 years, and

699
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,790
that's kind of gone. But very
important. I think for this. You

700
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:56,730
can't tell by looking at someone
if they're German or not.

701
00:49:59,490 --> 00:50:03,000
Exactly. And that's what I was
speaking about before with the,

702
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:09,660
the color people or people of
color versus non people of

703
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:14,250
color, right? That you can't.
And I use this term before, but

704
00:50:14,250 --> 00:50:18,090
I didn't use it in jest.
closeted you know, you could be

705
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:23,190
a closeted German, you know,
yes, exactly exactly. Where with

706
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:25,560
me like I said back in what you
can be a

707
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,960
closeted German easily I mean no
one would know

708
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:38,220
so this is where we get to with
the guilt, the shame, and it's

709
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:40,710
like proof prove you're not a
racist Adam prove this you're

710
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:45,000
not a racist investor
conversation proving

711
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,600
a negative is impossible I okay
now I want to tell this story

712
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,550
1969 I'm five years old. We're
living in Kensington, Maryland.

713
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:56,010
And you know, and it's this
morning, your phone call

714
00:50:56,010 --> 00:50:58,980
actually triggered this. And
also I'm writing my book. And so

715
00:50:59,010 --> 00:51:00,990
you know, things are coming into
my mind that I haven't thought

716
00:51:00,990 --> 00:51:04,290
about. So I'm five and I don't.
And you don't really remember

717
00:51:04,290 --> 00:51:06,720
much when you're when you're
five, but I remember very

718
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:11,970
distinctly a feeling I had. My
parents were both government

719
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:17,790
employees. And it was I think it
was a Saturday. No, I'm sure it

720
00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:20,760
was a Saturday, they said, Hey,
we're having some colleagues

721
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,440
come over from work. And you
know, there'll be here. I don't

722
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,500
know if they said they were
black. But it was a family of

723
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:33,390
four mom, dad, son, daughter.
And they were colleagues. They

724
00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:40,590
also state government employees.
And I remember they were so

725
00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:44,400
dressed up like son and we went
to church on Sundays by any a

726
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,810
Unitarian Church. Okay, we went
to church, and, and I remembered

727
00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:53,820
them all dressed up. You know,
like Sunday best and like, why?

728
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:59,010
Thank you for ringing that bell.
And, and that moment, I and I'm

729
00:51:59,010 --> 00:52:04,470
trying to bring it up now. I
felt I felt very emotional about

730
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:07,170
it. I don't know if it was wow.
You know, and they weren't

731
00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:10,800
really talkative. You know, they
were like, yes. And a lot of

732
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,710
Yes, yes. Do Yes, sir. No,
ma'am. All the likes really

733
00:52:13,710 --> 00:52:17,430
being on their Sunday best and,
and my, my sister was very

734
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:20,070
young, but I was like, I just
want to hang out and play. And I

735
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:24,690
remember feeling not guilty. Be
honest with him. I think I felt

736
00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:27,720
sorry. And I and I didn't know
anything about the civil rights.

737
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,480
And I'm five, you know, I'm
fine. And I don't think I'd

738
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,570
really interacted with black
kids. Certainly not in

739
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,120
Kensington, Maryland at the
time, I'm sure that's changed

740
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,550
now. And that's what I felt. And
I and it was very odd to me. But

741
00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:46,200
it was not just color. But it
was the whole thing. You know,

742
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,060
the being extra, extra dressed
up and extra and like, didn't

743
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:55,080
make sense to me. I hope that
it's coming out. If you

744
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,400
understand what I'm saying here,

745
00:52:56,580 --> 00:53:00,000
the reason why I rang my bell,
I'm going to be on the opposite

746
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:06,900
side of that conversation. This
is a phenomenon that I grew up

747
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:11,070
under. When we went somewhere,
you look your best. It wasn't

748
00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:14,100
the fact that all you want to
impress white people, is the

749
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:18,900
fact that we're not going to
feed into the stereotypes. We're

750
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:25,380
going to defeat the stereotypes.
So you had to be art every day.

751
00:53:25,410 --> 00:53:28,560
But that's really weird because
all I wanted was for another kid

752
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,140
to show up with a Schwinn bike,
you know, it's like hey, man,

753
00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:34,470
let's go have a run around the
neighborhood. So it had an

754
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:36,240
adverse effect on me at the
time.

755
00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:42,840
Well, this is the conversation
no ask for anything. Don't

756
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:49,260
embarrass us that you get in the
car. And I was telling my wife I

757
00:53:49,260 --> 00:53:52,680
was like you know the weird
thing now is and I can say no,

758
00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:56,190
when I do generalities,
generalities is just for the

759
00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:59,820
sake of conversation of course
you know

760
00:53:59,820 --> 00:54:07,950
who you know who does that now,
the newly immigrated we go to

761
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,990
when we go to school functions,
all the kids you know like

762
00:54:12,990 --> 00:54:16,980
calling out like I may say if it
calls for like a core course

763
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:21,240
recital. They have a white
shirt, black pants, you know,

764
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:26,160
black shoes, the girls wear
dresses, the newly immigrated

765
00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:32,250
you can identify them because
the way they dress right arrays

766
00:54:32,250 --> 00:54:38,280
so neat is so clean you know
Wellcamp and they you look at

767
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,910
the American cute quote unquote
American kids it's like well,

768
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,320
and subsequently just just
attack arm that when it comes to

769
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,030
clothing. Of course, every black
guy I've known is much better at

770
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:53,640
doing clothes than I am and when
I went to college and my

771
00:54:53,640 --> 00:55:00,690
roommate as black, I learned how
to wash and dry and fold Uh, and

772
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,300
you know, so that's just it's a
purely cultural difference, but

773
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,470
man, I'm happy for it.

774
00:55:05,250 --> 00:55:08,850
Yeah, my grandma show me how to
iron it like Tim Yeah, 19 years

775
00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:13,050
old. I mean, because he's the
way you carry yourself. And that

776
00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:15,540
and that comes from like I said,
that generational thing you

777
00:55:15,570 --> 00:55:18,930
mostly your grandparents and
parents, like, you know, we're

778
00:55:18,930 --> 00:55:22,140
new. Black people weren't new,
the integrator at this period. I

779
00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:25,260
mean, if you really want to, I
mean it to decide,

780
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:29,580
this is 1969. Mo, this is, you
know, this is right, right after

781
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,990
it all went down, you know,

782
00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:34,620
right. I mean, I know from from
people, oh, what you mean by

783
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:38,370
immigrants? Because we were
right on the fringe of society.

784
00:55:38,370 --> 00:55:41,550
And now we were allowed. And so
it's like, we had the same

785
00:55:41,550 --> 00:55:46,320
mentality as newly immigrated
people now that are observed,

786
00:55:46,350 --> 00:55:46,650
but what

787
00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:49,530
you just hit home for me, you
said, you're in the car, don't

788
00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:53,280
ask questions. Don't embarrass
us. That if that'll, by the way,

789
00:55:53,310 --> 00:55:54,570
that'll fuck you up as a kid.

790
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,390
Well, you got to understand
what's riding on that wheel? It

791
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:07,230
will. Yeah, it will. I'm not
saying won't with my age. The

792
00:56:07,230 --> 00:56:12,930
whole race is riding on your
shoulders. Yeah, we you go into

793
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:16,350
environments. And you know what,
to be honest with you. During

794
00:56:16,350 --> 00:56:20,820
this podcast. I feel that. Well,
good,

795
00:56:20,850 --> 00:56:25,050
because it does. Without this
podcast, we devolve into race

796
00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:28,890
war. So yes, we're right. Right.
We are holding up the country

797
00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:30,000
and the universe Mo.

798
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:38,220
Yes. So, Dr. Phil, he feels that
he needs to chime in. And this

799
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:41,670
is telling you how far the white
conversation white privilege

800
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:45,150
conversation had went when it
starts to infiltrate daytime

801
00:56:45,150 --> 00:56:50,730
television. So Dr. Phil, he goes
and tries to define what is

802
00:56:50,730 --> 00:56:51,570
white privilege,

803
00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:57,120
let's start out by defining
white privilege and what it is

804
00:56:57,150 --> 00:57:03,000
and what it is not. Now, first
definition, Privilege is a

805
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,640
special right or advantage, or
immunity granted, or available

806
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,480
only to a particular person or
group. Now, when we say

807
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:17,190
privilege, that just means that
it's something that exist, it's

808
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:20,130
not something that somebody
created or grabbed, right?

809
00:57:20,580 --> 00:57:23,130
Think about this, the famous
story by David Foster Wallace,

810
00:57:23,130 --> 00:57:26,550
he said to Fisher, in the ocean,
swimming along, they meet a

811
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:29,550
elderly fish coming in other
way. And he says, Good morning

812
00:57:29,550 --> 00:57:31,920
boys, how's the water, they go
along a little piece they go

813
00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:35,400
what's water, when you're in it,
you don't recognize that you're

814
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,070
in it, you derive your existence
from it, you derive your

815
00:57:38,070 --> 00:57:41,160
sustenance from it. So it's a
set of practices and privileges

816
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,400
based upon skin color is based
upon assumptions about who

817
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,200
people are. So that's what
privileges Yeah.

818
00:57:46,260 --> 00:57:49,890
All right, and we're talking
here that the privilege is we

819
00:57:49,890 --> 00:57:53,310
said it goes to a group or an
individual. And we're talking

820
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:57,210
about the group being white
here. And so white privilege,

821
00:57:57,210 --> 00:58:01,380
we're talking about inherent
advantages, possessed by a white

822
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:05,280
person on the basis of their
race in a society that's

823
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,580
characterized by racial
inequality or injustice. So the

824
00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:13,170
fish you're talking about here
are white folks that are

825
00:58:13,170 --> 00:58:17,850
swimming in a society and they
don't realize that this endures

826
00:58:17,850 --> 00:58:21,210
to their benefit, but it's not
that they said, I'm going to

827
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,780
position myself in a way that I
have this advantage it just

828
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:26,250
exists all around them

829
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:32,100
all right. They sent a bunch of
nothing their

830
00:58:33,690 --> 00:58:36,420
fish water, it's all on fee.

831
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:39,960
And like I said, one of my
favorite guys to ridicule Dr.

832
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,880
Michael Eric Dyson, with his
word salad. And that's the

833
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,110
problem. have a real
conversation. Right? Me and you

834
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:51,690
are having a real conversation.
We're sharing personal

835
00:58:51,690 --> 00:58:56,100
experiences. You let me know
what the other side of that

836
00:58:56,430 --> 00:59:00,420
conversation that we got into
the guy in the car was about,

837
00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:03,510
you know, um, let you know what
it was about. But we used to do

838
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:06,450
this all we used to fish
swimming, and he asked him what

839
00:59:06,450 --> 00:59:06,930
water

840
00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:10,499
we can't just talk about human
beings. You got to take it to

841
00:59:10,499 --> 00:59:13,439
fish right away in the water
because I get Yeah, it's you

842
00:59:13,439 --> 00:59:16,409
know, because it's probably too
painful for people to look

843
00:59:16,409 --> 00:59:19,739
inside themselves and identify
with what's being said.

844
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:25,020
I call bullshit, excuse me for
saying that. And reason one on

845
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:28,800
Dr. Michael Eric Dyson. He
understands the World War One

846
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,950
World Government, but he's not
gonna have that conversation

847
00:59:31,950 --> 00:59:35,910
because he's an elite, or he's
allowed to be in the elite

848
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:40,290
circle. He's not a really elite,
but he's a pseudo elite. You

849
00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:43,320
know, so he's not gonna step on
any toes so he doesn't lose his

850
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,280
tenure at the you know, whatever
universities that and he's not

851
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,670
going to be labeled a problem
child. So he goes out here and

852
00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:53,520
he makes people ordinary day
people that don't really have

853
00:59:53,550 --> 01:00:00,390
any power, feel guilt and shame.
But when you put him on a panel

854
01:00:00,390 --> 01:00:04,290
with a bunch of liberals that
hold very stereotypical us

855
01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:10,710
stereotypical views of black
people. He wants challenge him.

856
01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:15,330
That's why I'm in is people like
that we got to get rid of they

857
01:00:15,330 --> 01:00:20,190
gotta go. Yeah, here yeah, here
gotta go because they're

858
01:00:20,190 --> 01:00:25,650
standing in the way of people
have real conversations that can

859
01:00:25,650 --> 01:00:29,550
really bring about. And let me
be clear. I mean we'll say one

860
01:00:29,550 --> 01:00:35,490
thing here about oh, I'll wait
to address that. But yeah, I

861
01:00:35,490 --> 01:00:39,540
mean, you see here, you're on
Dr. Phil, you have the platform

862
01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:44,580
of broadcast television. And
that's what you came with fish.

863
01:00:47,730 --> 01:00:53,640
Fry? Yeah. So and that's what he
always does is these long, want

864
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,300
to be effective communicator,
you should be able to simply

865
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:01,080
communicate things. That way, a
multitude of different people

866
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,000
can understand what you're
saying on different levels.

867
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:03,180
Right.

868
01:01:03,180 --> 01:01:06,180
But as you point out, he clearly
was not authorized to do that

869
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:07,920
he's his task is different.

870
01:01:08,730 --> 01:01:15,090
No, his task is to go out there
and virtue signal and make white

871
01:01:15,090 --> 01:01:20,490
people feel guilty. For whatever
reason of this.

872
01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:27,540
Oh, well, I don't know. Well, if
I may insert one thing. In 1971,

873
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:29,850
talking about television,
something very important

874
01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:37,590
happened in American life. And
that was all in the family. And

875
01:01:37,590 --> 01:01:43,380
having Archie Bunker sit there
and portray the seemingly

876
01:01:43,380 --> 01:01:49,170
stereotypical white collar.
Blue, I'm sorry, blue collar,

877
01:01:49,230 --> 01:01:53,670
white working guy who hates the
commies hates the Jews hates the

878
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:58,830
blacks. You know, that was a
guilt. You know, like throwing

879
01:01:58,830 --> 01:02:01,650
shade, it was throwing guilt all
over the place. And it was the

880
01:02:01,650 --> 01:02:07,440
number one show for almost a
decade. And I think that did a

881
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,710
lot to the American psyche. I
grew up watching it. I remember

882
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:16,140
my dad wrote a play version of
all in the family that the

883
01:02:16,140 --> 01:02:19,740
church, they performed it at the
church, and it was riddled with

884
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:24,000
this kind of stuff. And it was
totally intended to guilt white

885
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,230
people was also funny, but it
was because it made you laugh at

886
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:32,280
yourself. But at the same time,
it was I think, very important,

887
01:02:33,149 --> 01:02:37,019
which we can and I'm not saying
white people can atone, if you

888
01:02:37,019 --> 01:02:42,269
truly feel that you've held some
racist beliefs or, you know,

889
01:02:42,689 --> 01:02:48,179
you've benefited from this
system directly. You can atone

890
01:02:48,179 --> 01:02:52,499
for it. I'm not saying that, but
making people antagonizing

891
01:02:52,499 --> 01:02:56,399
people. And it's done on both
sides. Because what it does is

892
01:02:56,399 --> 01:03:01,319
it creates this circular
argument of, oh, this is how it

893
01:03:01,319 --> 01:03:07,289
goes. A white man, you, you you,
you have white privilege. And

894
01:03:07,289 --> 01:03:11,099
then they say, Well, are you
black people get welfare, and

895
01:03:11,099 --> 01:03:15,599
I'll get welfare, you know, and
then it is this nonsensical,

896
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:18,659
circular argument goes round and
round and round.

897
01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:23,160
It's worse. I'm sorry, I can
laugh. It's worse mo it's worse.

898
01:03:23,370 --> 01:03:26,910
White people will say to you,
you've got white privilege.

899
01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:32,250
Well, they want to not what what
did Shelby Steele saying the

900
01:03:32,250 --> 01:03:35,250
other one they want to prove the
negative? This prove the

901
01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:38,490
negative? It's like, oh, well,
if I see a white guy and a black

902
01:03:38,490 --> 01:03:43,470
guy arguing. I gotta take the
black guy aside for fear of me

903
01:03:43,470 --> 01:03:48,570
looking like a racist. Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah. So that that's

904
01:03:48,570 --> 01:03:52,230
the root issue. Like I say it's
non productive. I'm a solution

905
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:56,940
based person, we can fix a lot
of the problems. One is, like I

906
01:03:56,940 --> 01:04:01,680
say, we clearly realize there is
a one world government and

907
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,680
people that did not that, that
they're the

908
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,110
bigger problem. They're asleep,
they got their eyes closed,

909
01:04:07,650 --> 01:04:11,790
right are scared to say
anything. But let's continue

910
01:04:11,790 --> 01:04:15,540
with Dr. Phil and Dr. Abraham
Martin,

911
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,570
the conversation doctor to
become so difficult for so many

912
01:04:18,570 --> 01:04:20,760
people because when they think
of privilege, they think that

913
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,790
they should have socio economic
advantage. So a lot of white

914
01:04:23,790 --> 01:04:26,970
people say I don't have any kind
of white privilege. I'm poor. I

915
01:04:26,970 --> 01:04:30,630
had to stand in the food line.
My family was on welfare. And so

916
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:33,510
they deny the existence of the
privilege because they feel like

917
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:36,840
they have not reaping the
financial benefits that are

918
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:39,480
usually associated with the word
privilege.

919
01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:45,300
Exactly. That's, that's the
argument referred to their

920
01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:49,080
images going around and around
like a dog chasing his tail.

921
01:04:49,110 --> 01:04:50,820
Yeah, we get nowhere

922
01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:54,990
and I and I fell into that hole
with it with the UT professor. I

923
01:04:54,990 --> 01:05:00,750
fell right into it. And he's a
professor You think these guys

924
01:05:00,750 --> 01:05:02,790
know better? Well,

925
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,930
when you work in a liberal
environment as a university, you

926
01:05:06,930 --> 01:05:13,170
have to really disprove the
negative right? To survive. I

927
01:05:13,170 --> 01:05:15,180
mean, just talking about
survival or,

928
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,950
or just say you're right. That's
that's the easy way out. Yeah,

929
01:05:19,950 --> 01:05:22,500
you're right, I guess right. I
got white privilege. I'm a dick.

930
01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:23,070
You're right.

931
01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:27,510
So we're going back to Shelby
Steele. And he's going to

932
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:29,910
elaborate more on white guilt.

933
01:05:33,030 --> 01:05:36,900
And in a sense, since the since
the, since the 60s, that's

934
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:40,440
pretty much what what has been
what has happened is that

935
01:05:41,790 --> 01:05:46,080
minorities have have begun to
sort of manipulate that stick.

936
01:05:47,580 --> 01:05:51,570
And so we can we call it in some
circles to today, the race car,

937
01:05:51,810 --> 01:05:54,690
play the race card, what is the
race card mean? Well, if you

938
01:05:54,690 --> 01:05:58,530
don't do what I'm what I want
you to do, then you're going to

939
01:05:58,530 --> 01:06:00,930
be stigmatized as a racist. And
the price you'll pay is you'll

940
01:06:00,930 --> 01:06:07,740
lose your, your legitimacy. So
White Guilt is powerful, is a

941
01:06:07,740 --> 01:06:11,880
powerful, powerful force, not
because people feel guilty, but

942
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,650
because people are stigmatized,
and again, have to have to prove

943
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,220
have to prove the negative all
the time, and for living

944
01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:24,180
forever, under threat of being
stigmatized.

945
01:06:24,390 --> 01:06:26,220
Wow, he nails it there.

946
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,840
nails it. And there's a key word
that he used in there.

947
01:06:31,860 --> 01:06:38,430
Minorities? Yeah. Off the back
of the silver rights. And we've

948
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:44,220
seen this in the recent events
with the trans and gay

949
01:06:44,220 --> 01:06:46,200
employment bill,

950
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:49,470
or well, the Supreme Court case.

951
01:06:49,859 --> 01:06:56,669
Yes, yes. We, we kicked the door
open or, you know, black people

952
01:06:56,879 --> 01:07:01,049
aid us kicked the door open for
silver rights. We're are allowed

953
01:07:01,049 --> 01:07:04,739
to open the door, how you want
to look at it? Um, what were the

954
01:07:04,739 --> 01:07:08,129
last the benefit from it? Is I
everybody else like Oh, thank

955
01:07:08,129 --> 01:07:09,359
you. Thank you. You're saying?

956
01:07:10,140 --> 01:07:12,300
Let me hold the door. Hey,
thanks for holding the door open

957
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:18,840
black people, right? Everybody?
Yeah, you're right.

958
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:26,100
You know, um, as you see, cops,
I haven't seen a single cop.

959
01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:30,030
Shoot a trans person. I'm not
saying it doesn't happen. I'm

960
01:07:30,030 --> 01:07:33,120
just saying what they show us on
the news is always a black male

961
01:07:33,630 --> 01:07:40,080
being shot. Yeah, but Black
Lives Matter has pivoted or

962
01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:44,970
evolved or whatever you want to
use to global warming. We, as we

963
01:07:44,970 --> 01:07:48,780
heard in the previous clips on
previous show of global warming,

964
01:07:48,810 --> 01:07:53,220
intersectionality it's like
what? I thought we were talking

965
01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:59,610
about us and they do this same
swish the sleight of hand trick.

966
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,640
It's like, oh, yeah, black man,
you know, goes get sprayed down

967
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,570
by that water hoses and getting
bitten by dogs. And then we'll

968
01:08:06,570 --> 01:08:11,880
take that card, cross out race
on it, and write in gender or

969
01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:15,240
right so you're describing,
you're describing the Democratic

970
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,510
Party right now at the moment
Democrat party seems to be doing

971
01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:19,320
a lot of this.

972
01:08:19,830 --> 01:08:24,900
Yes. Yes. And that's why you
know what, it's only one word

973
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:27,840
for it. It's disgusting. And I'm
gonna tell people like this,

974
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:33,030
this is my view on it. White
Guilt is disgusting to me. If

975
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:35,670
you want to atone for something,
a town for you know, if you feel

976
01:08:35,670 --> 01:08:38,490
like you need to do something to
help out, you know, or you have

977
01:08:38,490 --> 01:08:40,710
something to contribute to
somebody you feel you've done

978
01:08:40,710 --> 01:08:43,740
wrong, that's fine. But when you
pander to me, I don't care who

979
01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:49,440
you are. When you pander to me.
I find that disingenuous. This

980
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:53,520
is just me personally speaking.
It makes me look at you a

981
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:58,560
certain kind of way. Like why
are you doing that? I mean,

982
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,750
like, what what are your real
thoughts? I mean, like, why are

983
01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:03,600
you and it goes in one of the
clips you played on the NA show?

984
01:09:04,590 --> 01:09:07,860
When they were like, oh, yeah,
we got to take out 30 legals or

985
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,890
not documented immigrants,
because Who's Who's gonna clean

986
01:09:10,890 --> 01:09:19,920
our toilets? It's like what?
Yeah, you know, so or the

987
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,700
pandering to me, is like, we
have to do this for black people

988
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,960
because they can't do it for
themselves. Right. I find that

989
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,690
very disingenuous. I'm not
saying there's good people out

990
01:09:30,690 --> 01:09:35,040
here with good causes that are
genuinely skin in the game but

991
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:41,100
when you do this thing with just
lip service and posting

992
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:45,210
hashtags, and don't you know,
it's just like, oh, you putting

993
01:09:45,210 --> 01:09:50,970
on this badge? It's just I find
it very disgusting because what

994
01:09:50,970 --> 01:09:57,180
do you think of me to make you
do that? That's just my personal

995
01:09:57,210 --> 01:10:00,810
Be honest with me. Be honest.
Say you need to do issue you

996
01:10:00,810 --> 01:10:03,990
asked me to do that? Are you do
you know? Are you saying I'm

997
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:09,720
less than I've grown up with our
shatter? If you'd be honest with

998
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:09,900
me,

999
01:10:09,930 --> 01:10:13,530
well, I don't think anyone likes
to be pander to, if you're

1000
01:10:13,530 --> 01:10:14,430
honest about it.

1001
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,390
All they do, though, and we're
going to see later in the show,

1002
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:25,620
oh, they do. So getting back to
white guilt 3.2

1003
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:31,020
just leads to the next
phenomenon that is a feature of

1004
01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:37,890
white guilt. And that's
dissociation. The only way to

1005
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:42,120
get away from the stigma of
being a racist is to find some

1006
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,920
way to dissociate oneself from
the stigma from the image that

1007
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,330
you were, that you are a racist
that you did you did you that

1008
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:56,040
you are like, the whites of old
that you still secretly are a

1009
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,220
white supremacist, that you
still secretly believe in this,

1010
01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:03,150
that your heart is that you may
be smiling, but your heart is

1011
01:11:03,150 --> 01:11:09,960
still committed to racism. And
so, again, whites walking around

1012
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:13,320
under this sort of cloud of
suspicion, then have to find

1013
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,190
ways to, to dissociate
themselves from that. I think

1014
01:11:17,190 --> 01:11:20,130
the great the first great
example of dissociation in

1015
01:11:20,130 --> 01:11:24,840
American life, was President
Johnson's Great Society. Why all

1016
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:30,000
of a sudden, in 1965? Do you do
you just say, well, we're going

1017
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,650
to spend billions and billions
of dollars, we're going to

1018
01:11:31,650 --> 01:11:33,780
create all kinds of social
programs, and we're going to,

1019
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,900
we're going to dump all this
money, and we're going to end

1020
01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:41,640
poverty in our time. You create
all these all these programs,

1021
01:11:41,670 --> 01:11:46,200
almost all of which, which
failed. Certainly, they did not

1022
01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:49,800
eradicate poverty, they did not
bring about racial equality.

1023
01:11:50,670 --> 01:11:58,200
They did virtually nothing. But
they did dissociate the American

1024
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,430
society and the American
government, from the stigma of

1025
01:12:02,430 --> 01:12:03,090
racism.

1026
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,930
Yes, the Great Society.

1027
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:11,940
This world money at the problem
Medicare

1028
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:15,060
and Medicaid, there was lots of
stuff that came out of that.

1029
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:21,930
Yes, affirmative action was one
of them. But it was not a lot of

1030
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,080
thought put into it, it was just
throw money at the problem with

1031
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,540
that, make it go away with my
mom Association.

1032
01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:32,280
That is the American way. I
mean, I have to say, our culture

1033
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,070
as Americans is we do throw
money at the problem thinking

1034
01:12:35,370 --> 01:12:36,060
that'll fix it.

1035
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,470
But do you really want to fix
the problem? And I'm going to

1036
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:44,160
bring up example to you
homelessness, this is something

1037
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,400
near and dear to your heart?
Yes. Do people really want to

1038
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,090
make fix the homeless problem?
Or do they make one and not see

1039
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:51,780
the homeless?

1040
01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:57,690
My experience is, because well,
and this is I think this is

1041
01:12:57,690 --> 01:13:05,550
probably what triggered this
debate a while ago. Because of a

1042
01:13:05,550 --> 01:13:11,070
it's another version of guilt.
We will call it systemic issues,

1043
01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:15,780
whether it's racism or, or
institutional inequality, or

1044
01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:19,230
whatever words you want to put
towards it. And I'm just talking

1045
01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:23,160
about my own experience here in
Austin, Texas, a blue.in, the

1046
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,360
red state, very liberal. And
that may or may not have been to

1047
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:32,820
do with I think it does. And
it's, I'm so guilty about what

1048
01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:36,540
the system has done. These
people don't have what I have. I

1049
01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:41,640
want to fix it. They don't have
a house, my house. That's the

1050
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,630
thinking. So it's not about not
even interested, really not even

1051
01:13:45,660 --> 01:13:50,700
interested in how these people
became homeless, or what the

1052
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:56,340
real issues are. And, yeah, not
in my backyard. I mean, I was

1053
01:13:56,340 --> 01:13:59,730
talking to Alan Graham, the
founder of community, first

1054
01:13:59,730 --> 01:14:03,000
village here in Austin. And he
said, if I if I had, if I had

1055
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,990
$1, for every person that said
to me, this is so great, what

1056
01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:09,930
you're doing, but could you do
it over there? He said, I'd be a

1057
01:14:09,930 --> 01:14:17,010
rich man. And so yes, it's it's
not actually it's a shortcut.

1058
01:14:17,010 --> 01:14:19,350
And I think that I have to be
honest with you. I think that's

1059
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:21,930
part of the American culture,
which is changeable. And it's

1060
01:14:21,930 --> 01:14:25,410
not everybody, I'm generalizing,
but hey, you know, well, if I

1061
01:14:25,410 --> 01:14:28,230
can just pay a little more in
taxes, and it'll go away,

1062
01:14:28,230 --> 01:14:32,610
because my dear leader said it
would, in this case, I'm talking

1063
01:14:32,610 --> 01:14:36,540
about the mayor or the governor,
then that's, that's the level I

1064
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:39,900
want to go to. And that's great.
It's easy for me to talk with my

1065
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:44,580
pocketbook. That's it's become a
way to fix all even though as

1066
01:14:44,610 --> 01:14:46,710
you and I both know, it rarely
does.

1067
01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:52,380
For two reasons, one, that
people are interested in the

1068
01:14:52,380 --> 01:14:55,470
homeless and I'm not saying all
but your general average person.

1069
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:59,190
No one gave second thought to
homeless people and today start

1070
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:02,580
showing up on there. block.
That's right. As long as long as

1071
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:06,030
there were under the bridge, on
the highway or wherever else out

1072
01:15:06,030 --> 01:15:09,840
of sight out of mind, you gave
no thought to correct. So one

1073
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:15,090
your action is out of the wrong
motive is to make the problem go

1074
01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:19,830
away, not solve the problem. And
then to you don't want you have

1075
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:23,940
to take action. You don't want
to understand the problem and

1076
01:15:23,940 --> 01:15:27,000
create a solution to the
problem. What you want to do is

1077
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,360
here this is what's convenient
for me. Yeah, throw money at it.

1078
01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:33,600
Throw a hashtag at it. Let me
like this. Let me retweet this

1079
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:38,490
not feel good about it. Do
something, you know. Yeah. If

1080
01:15:38,490 --> 01:15:42,180
you if you don't do that, don't
say nothing at all. Yeah, I

1081
01:15:42,180 --> 01:15:44,490
mean, it's worse. I mean,
because what you do is you make

1082
01:15:44,490 --> 01:15:48,150
a problem seem like it's being
addressed when it's really not.

1083
01:15:49,140 --> 01:15:53,460
And just just to add to that,
let's move away from homeless in

1084
01:15:53,460 --> 01:15:57,090
a moment. But right now in
Austin has got so bad because

1085
01:15:57,090 --> 01:16:01,470
what what Austin did the city
council's they said, Okay, you

1086
01:16:01,470 --> 01:16:04,680
can camp sit, lie anywhere you
want, except City Hall. Of

1087
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,460
course, that would be crazy. And
that brought the problem right

1088
01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:11,280
to people's doorsteps. And then
they freaked out. And now the

1089
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,130
conversation is not about it's
not even about homelessness

1090
01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:16,650
anymore. It's about how do we
get them off the streets? How do

1091
01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:19,770
we get them off the streets?
It's sick,

1092
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:28,230
it's sick. And that's what we
did with the Great Society with

1093
01:16:28,620 --> 01:16:34,470
LBJ majors threw money at the
problem. But let's listen to the

1094
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:35,880
triumphs and tragedies of it

1095
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,530
$20 trillion. What would you do
with all that money? You could

1096
01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:43,860
pay off the national debt? You
could spend a million dollars a

1097
01:16:43,860 --> 01:16:48,210
day for 2000 years and still
have trillions left. But could

1098
01:16:48,210 --> 01:16:52,200
you in poverty in America, that
was one of the goals of the

1099
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,130
Great Society, President Lyndon
Johnson's ambitious plan to

1100
01:16:56,130 --> 01:17:00,330
transform the lives of
Americans. The Great Society is

1101
01:17:00,330 --> 01:17:04,710
50 years old. It's been a long
historic journey. But are we at

1102
01:17:04,710 --> 01:17:09,300
the end of the road. We'll start
by traveling back to 1964 when

1103
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:14,340
America's prosperity and
potential seemed limitless, but

1104
01:17:14,340 --> 01:17:18,120
America had troubling age old
problems, like legal

1105
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,780
discrimination, and abject
poverty that could no longer be

1106
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:26,970
tolerated in the increasingly
prosperous land of the free. So

1107
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:31,230
in May of 1964, President
Johnson made a big announcement.

1108
01:17:31,889 --> 01:17:35,369
The Great Society rests on
abundance and liberty for all.

1109
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:41,459
It demands an end to poverty,
and racial injustice. To which

1110
01:17:41,459 --> 01:17:45,929
we're totally committed in our
time, LBJ decided

1111
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,320
that the government with its
vast power and the might of the

1112
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,100
National Treasury would steer us
towards a better place.

1113
01:17:53,670 --> 01:17:58,290
The challenge of the next half
century is whether we have the

1114
01:17:58,290 --> 01:18:03,210
wisdom to use that wealth, to
enrich and elevate our national

1115
01:18:03,210 --> 01:18:09,180
life and to advance the quality
of our American civilization.

1116
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:15,210
Johnson's plan into the south
Jim Crow laws, no more whites,

1117
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,110
only lunch counters, colored
water fountains, and sitting at

1118
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:23,730
the back of the bus. landmark
legislation like the Civil

1119
01:18:23,730 --> 01:18:28,770
Rights Act of 1964, and the 1965
Voting Rights Act were

1120
01:18:28,770 --> 01:18:31,980
tremendous achievements that did
away with legalized racial

1121
01:18:31,980 --> 01:18:36,570
discrimination. Today, we stand
closer to being the colorblind

1122
01:18:36,570 --> 01:18:40,770
society that Johnson envisions
but we're still trying to level

1123
01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:44,040
the playing field with
affirmative action policies that

1124
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,900
themselves aren't colorblind.

1125
01:18:46,410 --> 01:18:49,950
Big Voice to talk about
colorblind is we're a colorblind

1126
01:18:49,950 --> 01:18:52,590
society, which you can say
that's racist to say these

1127
01:18:52,590 --> 01:18:52,980
things.

1128
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:56,490
But why would we want to be a
colorblind society? That's

1129
01:18:56,490 --> 01:18:58,830
a very, it's not a great
question. It's a very good

1130
01:18:58,830 --> 01:19:01,230
question. I don't want to be
colorblind.

1131
01:19:01,380 --> 01:19:07,500
I agree. Well, let me ask you
this question. If you're

1132
01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:12,510
colorblind, what do you see in
gray, or black and white raised?

1133
01:19:13,230 --> 01:19:14,760
Brands? Makes the wood

1134
01:19:15,090 --> 01:19:18,450
black and white? That's right.
Yeah, exactly.

1135
01:19:18,660 --> 01:19:21,750
That's how they're gonna bring
about the colorblind society. We

1136
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:25,530
spoke about this before. It's
like, hey, this makes them all

1137
01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:28,860
up, get rid of get rid of
cultures. Get rid you know,

1138
01:19:28,860 --> 01:19:34,710
that's that's the solution. But
it's, like I say, I find it

1139
01:19:34,710 --> 01:19:37,080
troubling that people just want
they don't want to address the

1140
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,540
problem. If you don't want to
address it, don't address it.

1141
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:43,050
But there's hope. There's always
hope.

1142
01:19:43,140 --> 01:19:46,980
Oh, I'm sitting up straight. All
right. I'm ready for

1143
01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:54,420
my orders. For all the people
out there that are riddled with

1144
01:19:54,630 --> 01:20:01,050
white guilt. There's kits where
you Really?

1145
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:02,790
Yes

1146
01:20:04,830 --> 01:20:08,490
there are subscription boxes for
everything these days between

1147
01:20:08,490 --> 01:20:14,220
men's wear makeup, dog toys, and
now to women are hoping a box

1148
01:20:14,250 --> 01:20:19,590
delivered once a month can
alleviate white guilt. But as

1149
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:22,980
Evan McMorris Santoro
discovered, it won't come cheap

1150
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:29,070
Barry element is a rabbi and
professor of Jewish Studies who

1151
01:20:29,070 --> 01:20:32,220
lives in Park Slope Brooklyn.
Bears holiday gift hall this

1152
01:20:32,220 --> 01:20:35,910
year include something for
herself, the safety pin box, a

1153
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:38,970
new monthly subscription service
designed to wake up white people

1154
01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:43,080
to the realities of being black
in America. plans start at $25

1155
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,880
and go all the way up to 100 a
month.

1156
01:20:44,970 --> 01:20:50,700
Okay. Wait a minute. What what
is safety pin? What is what is

1157
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:52,020
going on? Where's this from?
What's

1158
01:20:52,020 --> 01:20:56,430
it? What is this? This is vice.
Oh, of course

1159
01:20:56,460 --> 01:21:00,480
vice the virtue signaling SJW
advertising agency

1160
01:21:00,660 --> 01:21:04,620
and it is real white guilt kids.

1161
01:21:06,780 --> 01:21:08,490
All right. I'm listening.

1162
01:21:09,630 --> 01:21:11,250
White guilt kids to

1163
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,310
are you getting that feeling of
like unboxing that exciting

1164
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:15,570
feeling of like a gift.

1165
01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:19,350
It's not so much as a gift. But
it's kind of exciting that it's,

1166
01:21:19,650 --> 01:21:21,810
I feel like I'm getting ready to
learn like I don't know Mission

1167
01:21:21,810 --> 01:21:23,760
Impossible, but my job is
supposed to be

1168
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:27,810
the safety pin is the Make
America Great Again hat for

1169
01:21:27,810 --> 01:21:30,300
white people who want to show
the world they didn't vote for

1170
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:33,120
Trump. After an election that
progression is believed hinged

1171
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,810
on racism. The safety pin is
meant to display that the wearer

1172
01:21:36,810 --> 01:21:40,050
is a safe white person. The
trend quickly became

1173
01:21:40,050 --> 01:21:43,680
commercialized. Now you can find
designer safety pins online for

1174
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,670
over $300 organizers, Marissa
Johnson and Leslie Mack they can

1175
01:21:47,670 --> 01:21:51,240
use all this white guilt for
good and capitalize on it at the

1176
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,190
same time. Wow.

1177
01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:56,550
This is Ultimate virtue
signaling with a safety pin.

1178
01:21:56,580 --> 01:21:57,450
Nice.

1179
01:21:58,380 --> 01:22:02,400
It's not just a safety pin. It's
a whole kit monthly kit.

1180
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,590
Monthly month. So you can get
monthly. Oh, it's my monthly

1181
01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:08,340
reminder.

1182
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:10,560
Yeah.

1183
01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:15,450
This is this serious? Is this
really

1184
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:18,000
this is as a heart attack.

1185
01:22:18,330 --> 01:22:21,000
This is not like National
Lampoon or the onion,

1186
01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:27,090
HBO vice brother. Okay, it's
three. It's an

1187
01:22:27,090 --> 01:22:30,450
agreed to safety pin box. The
plan is to make some profit,

1188
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,200
while also giving grants to
black women activists. I went to

1189
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,390
Grand Rapids to watch the first
set of boxes get packed in

1190
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:37,200
Leslie's house.

1191
01:22:38,130 --> 01:22:42,060
That's a good idea. That is
actually a really good idea.

1192
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:47,820
This is sort of the epicenter of
white guilt is the white middle

1193
01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:53,250
aged mom who voted for Hillary
but saw Trump win on the back of

1194
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,040
the white women vote Yeah,
that's where the money that's

1195
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:56,370
that's

1196
01:22:56,370 --> 01:23:00,540
where that's where the need is.
I wouldn't say the money but it

1197
01:23:00,540 --> 01:23:00,870
is whether

1198
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,660
you're a business first. Yeah,
that's where the cash is. Right?

1199
01:23:03,690 --> 01:23:05,280
That's where the money is. Well,
the cash

1200
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,340
is in all the white people's
wallets. So I'm not

1201
01:23:08,340 --> 01:23:11,460
discriminate. I'm not
discriminating about about whose

1202
01:23:11,460 --> 01:23:14,970
wallet. Exactly yeah, but I will
say that that's that's where the

1203
01:23:14,970 --> 01:23:16,950
need exists. That's where the
desire is.

1204
01:23:17,010 --> 01:23:20,220
I told you it's the American
way. Fix it with money. It's

1205
01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:23,640
this is disgusting. Now, when
you watch this, after you crack

1206
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,650
up laughing, how do you really
feel about it?

1207
01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:35,730
I feel sad for the people buying
the box. And I feel mad at the

1208
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:40,740
people creating the bots because
what it does is trivialize. But

1209
01:23:40,770 --> 01:23:48,090
this is the social justice
warrior way. The people that we

1210
01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:51,510
see and we saw this on the show
many a time they're able to

1211
01:23:51,510 --> 01:24:00,150
monetize their movement for
personal gain. So yeah, but I'll

1212
01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:02,880
feel sorry. Obviously, this
woman's dealing with their boss,

1213
01:24:02,910 --> 01:24:06,300
this boss is dealing with
something to seek out

1214
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:17,100
to seek out a way to not
identify. Let's just say what is

1215
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:18,360
Trump derangement syndrome?

1216
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:27,660
Yeah, yes, it's, it's okay. So
people have been trained, I'll

1217
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:33,270
put it that way that Trump won
the election. Well, there's many

1218
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:36,030
reasons he won. We know the
Russians. We know that, you

1219
01:24:36,030 --> 01:24:39,180
know, there's many different
things that are of course true.

1220
01:24:39,390 --> 01:24:44,010
But above all, it was racism. So
now the only way to combat Trump

1221
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,330
is to combat racism somehow and
people are going along with it.

1222
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,150
I mean, it's very effective. The
triggers that they're putting

1223
01:24:51,150 --> 01:24:54,630
into this into the marketing of
this idea. And look at the

1224
01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:57,810
target. They're going after
women who voted for Hillary but

1225
01:24:57,810 --> 01:25:01,350
saw other white women who voted
for Hillary but saw other white

1226
01:25:01,350 --> 01:25:03,180
women voting for Trump.

1227
01:25:03,810 --> 01:25:06,510
And I think in the clip before
they said, Oh, older white

1228
01:25:06,510 --> 01:25:06,960
women.

1229
01:25:07,710 --> 01:25:09,210
Yeah middle aged or older, yes,

1230
01:25:09,210 --> 01:25:15,120
middle a middle age. So that put
you know, but they a lot of

1231
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,660
these people grew up like me at
the beginnings of the silver

1232
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:22,410
rights like me absolutely all
the work all the work we put

1233
01:25:22,410 --> 01:25:26,580
into these, it's now back again
in a box. All the work that's

1234
01:25:26,580 --> 01:25:32,190
been put in Mo is now fixable in
a box of safety pins. Yes, kits

1235
01:25:32,190 --> 01:25:32,550
for

1236
01:25:34,110 --> 01:25:38,100
sure what's in the box. Oh,
verifies lesson plans and tasks

1237
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:42,060
to complete. Some tasks are
simple, like give Black people

1238
01:25:42,060 --> 01:25:45,360
higher tips. Others are harder.
This method

1239
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,300
safety pin box, we are focused
on learning about and practicing

1240
01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:51,480
radical compassion. It's nice as
a part of combating whites in

1241
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:55,290
prisons, white supremacy, you do
three things every week one is

1242
01:25:55,290 --> 01:25:59,220
directed towards this. In this
case, black elderly one is

1243
01:25:59,220 --> 01:26:01,530
directed towards the over
incarcerated and this one's

1244
01:26:01,530 --> 01:26:04,140
media this week, I take a look
at the media I consume on a

1245
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:07,200
regular basis and evaluate it
for bias and worthiness

1246
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:09,900
to it wouldn't be them sitting
here in your house in Park

1247
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:12,090
Slope. And I'm wondering if
these boxes are going to end up

1248
01:26:12,090 --> 01:26:14,490
like you know how New Yorkers
get stuck at people's houses?

1249
01:26:14,490 --> 01:26:16,830
Like, I'm sure there's some New
Yorkers in this house somewhere?

1250
01:26:16,860 --> 01:26:17,160
Yes, there

1251
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,160
are we read them however we read
them. No, that's a very good

1252
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,910
point. And if I have to admit
that at that, also, I thought

1253
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:24,420
about that.

1254
01:26:24,660 --> 01:26:27,900
So there's an aspect of this
box. It's kind of like, this is

1255
01:26:27,900 --> 01:26:30,840
inviting. This is the black
woman you invite into your house

1256
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,330
every month. Yeah, certain
aspects of this way I really

1257
01:26:33,330 --> 01:26:33,570
thought

1258
01:26:33,570 --> 01:26:40,380
of it is that it embarrasses me
honestly that I just don't have

1259
01:26:40,380 --> 01:26:45,870
a world where I am. Have I
encounter naturally. People of

1260
01:26:45,870 --> 01:26:46,320
color.

1261
01:26:48,450 --> 01:26:53,100
A bit. I'll bet you she just
doesn't see him. It's worse. But

1262
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:53,430
who

1263
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:58,980
are you? virtue signaling to? If
you don't encounter black people

1264
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:04,320
to have to wear a safety pin?
Yeah, just white people. Now you

1265
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:09,870
see, and that goes back to the
cupcake thing. The German donut.

1266
01:27:11,820 --> 01:27:14,520
Well, we didn't we didn't
explain that yet.

1267
01:27:15,299 --> 01:27:22,019
No. Okay, I sent out a tweet. It
had a chocolate doughnut. It was

1268
01:27:22,019 --> 01:27:29,579
a German Sign. And a woman put
in star star star star donut.

1269
01:27:30,659 --> 01:27:34,949
And it's in Germany. Right? I
sent it to Adam says, What does

1270
01:27:34,949 --> 01:27:41,099
this mean? Because I did this.
And I was I was almost got Yes,

1271
01:27:41,099 --> 01:27:42,719
because I've seen a fib star.

1272
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:50,220
Right. And it actually said it
was actually a train conductor.

1273
01:27:50,220 --> 01:27:53,430
I think they called it a train
conductor or something. But what

1274
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:57,120
I was able to explain is
historically, in Germany, they

1275
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:03,210
have a couple of treats that the
one that I'm most familiar with,

1276
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,960
is called a naked zoom, which is
a negro kiss. And it's like a

1277
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,380
big black thing filled with a
creamy middle. Now of course,

1278
01:28:10,740 --> 01:28:15,690
you can debate whether that's
racist or not, but in German, en

1279
01:28:15,690 --> 01:28:21,630
E G, E R ne her is not
derogatory, where Srivatsa and

1280
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:24,480
you've heard this probably from
Yiddish or Jewish that's very

1281
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:27,780
derogatory. So if a German says
SHVARTS, that's racist if you

1282
01:28:27,780 --> 01:28:32,550
say nature, it's it's not
appropriate probably anymore for

1283
01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:35,670
for this entry, but it's been
around for a long, long time.

1284
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:39,150
And if you looked at the she
just had the N word, but in with

1285
01:28:40,290 --> 01:28:42,030
with four stars are not

1286
01:28:43,620 --> 01:28:48,810
the reason why that is. If I
read it with five stars, that's

1287
01:28:48,810 --> 01:28:54,090
right. So just to show you I'm
not even above this, why don't

1288
01:28:54,090 --> 01:28:57,270
do social media for one and I
only do it for the benefit of

1289
01:28:57,540 --> 01:29:02,520
promoting the show. But to what
else is subjecting my are

1290
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:07,260
subjecting myself to social
media for you guys? Yes. But I

1291
01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:07,680
was

1292
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:12,660
almost triggered. It's easy.
It's easy. It's easy. And we

1293
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:15,990
so just to set the picture up,
you have this little chocolate

1294
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:21,810
man, cupcake face, with little
pink lips, not overly large lips

1295
01:29:21,810 --> 01:29:24,510
for the people thinking black
face, but she made allusions to

1296
01:29:24,510 --> 01:29:27,330
black face. Yeah, it just looks
like a little chocolate cupcake

1297
01:29:27,330 --> 01:29:32,250
with two eyes and brown hair and
chocolate. I mean, it was brown

1298
01:29:32,250 --> 01:29:38,070
hair were sprinkles. But what
triggered me was I read five

1299
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:42,420
stars, not in five stars, not
four stars. And then I was like,

1300
01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:46,860
is that what the the sign says
on the cupcake because I had a

1301
01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:50,340
little title to the cupcake
where they end up being tranq.

1302
01:29:50,340 --> 01:29:54,750
And what that does just go to
show you can be triggered it's

1303
01:29:54,750 --> 01:30:00,600
easy for sure. But But who does
the virtue signaling Who does

1304
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,470
this retweeting of this? Most of
the time is is not, it's not

1305
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:09,270
black people to go around and do
a white guilt, or white average

1306
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:14,250
everyday black people, white
people. All right, so there's

1307
01:30:14,250 --> 01:30:15,960
one more clip catspaw.

1308
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,510
So what is it about white people
that, that they also require you

1309
01:30:18,510 --> 01:30:23,310
to give them a box of things to
do? Why? Why are you the check?

1310
01:30:23,340 --> 01:30:23,580
Yeah, I

1311
01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:25,770
mean, you could just write the
check, I think for us when it's

1312
01:30:25,770 --> 01:30:28,590
about actually providing a
service that people are asking

1313
01:30:28,590 --> 01:30:31,800
for. So there's a market. And
that's really when we talk about

1314
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,020
it being a business. It's a
business model, because there's,

1315
01:30:34,050 --> 01:30:36,720
there's a need. And I say all
the time, like, had white people

1316
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,910
got their shit together and
actually provided this for

1317
01:30:38,910 --> 01:30:41,280
themselves. We wouldn't have a
business model right now. But

1318
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,220
they haven't. So here we are
providing the service for them.

1319
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,090
The most radical politics or
sometimes the simplest ones,

1320
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:52,080
it's 18 boxes message to guilty
whites. If you want to do

1321
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,690
something, put money in a black
woman's pocket.

1322
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:58,890
And I just would say, you know,
we never pretended to be

1323
01:30:58,890 --> 01:31:01,050
anything but radical black
women. And so we're going to do

1324
01:31:01,050 --> 01:31:02,850
some radical shit. We'll see
what happens.

1325
01:31:03,660 --> 01:31:04,860
Assaulting

1326
01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:16,170
man, you or me? Both. So yeah,
ain't got to go back to the

1327
01:31:16,170 --> 01:31:21,630
conversation you had about on
your best behavior. Don't ask

1328
01:31:21,630 --> 01:31:29,340
for anything. So this goes
totally against what ordinary

1329
01:31:29,340 --> 01:31:33,750
everyday black people were
taught. Growing up. You don't

1330
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:35,400
never seem like you need
something.

1331
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:39,900
Right. So if someone then looks
at you and says, Well, you're

1332
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:41,970
black seems like you need
something. Hey, let me put some

1333
01:31:41,970 --> 01:31:45,720
money in your pocket black lady.
That must be just incredibly

1334
01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:46,620
insulting.

1335
01:31:47,490 --> 01:31:50,310
I will be highly insulted. But
the fact that she building a

1336
01:31:50,310 --> 01:31:52,830
business model off of this is
just,

1337
01:31:53,850 --> 01:31:58,590
oh, I got a memo to self cancel
HB Oh, okay. All right.

1338
01:31:59,580 --> 01:32:03,450
Crazy. I'm feeling triggered
right now, please. Okay, what

1339
01:32:03,450 --> 01:32:14,430
more do you want? Sorry. Why?
Why would you do that? You know,

1340
01:32:14,430 --> 01:32:18,180
how bad that is? For the people.
And I want to make this clear.

1341
01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:23,010
There's people out here that's
doing legit work on the ground.

1342
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:29,520
Trying to bring about and
correct the problems of have

1343
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,780
they? Yeah, the problems of
they? What, when people see

1344
01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:40,920
this, he is totally destabilizes
and deflates what they're trying

1345
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,500
to do. The actual legit people

1346
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:46,020
out there. Yeah, of course. And
these people are not fighting

1347
01:32:46,020 --> 01:32:48,240
the real issue. They're not
fighting the real white

1348
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,950
supremacy, the real ruling
class, the One World Government,

1349
01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:56,850
they're, they're fighting each
other over stupidity. They're

1350
01:32:56,850 --> 01:33:00,120
mimicking it. Even better. Yes,
you're right.

1351
01:33:01,710 --> 01:33:08,190
So where would they learn
something like this from? Well,

1352
01:33:08,190 --> 01:33:09,180
like you're dangerous.

1353
01:33:09,390 --> 01:33:12,930
But the Civil Rights
establishment, which has

1354
01:33:12,930 --> 01:33:18,060
rigidify gotten worse. Jesse
Jackson used to be when back in

1355
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,660
the the early 70s. I used to go
to his operation push in

1356
01:33:21,660 --> 01:33:25,110
Chicago. And he was talking
about turning the TV off at home

1357
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:27,510
and, and keeping the family
together and assisting on

1358
01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:31,200
homework at all and reading and
had had a book rental program

1359
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:37,080
and all that he was great. He
says none of that now. And he

1360
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:41,610
gets so much money and attention
from manipulating white guilt.

1361
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,540
And he's so good at it. I mean,
he's is it's just he's a

1362
01:33:45,540 --> 01:33:52,020
virtuoso of it. He has gotten
billions of dollars from

1363
01:33:52,020 --> 01:33:57,120
American corporations, who he
threatens to stigmatize if they

1364
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:02,550
don't pay up. And when you
rewarding somebody with billions

1365
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:08,010
of dollars, it's hard to break
that habit. So, you know, he's a

1366
01:34:08,010 --> 01:34:11,730
good example of where white
guilt really is a dangerous

1367
01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:11,970
thing.

1368
01:34:13,650 --> 01:34:16,950
Yeah, yes. And this is a
business model carried on by

1369
01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:20,250
Reverend Al Sharpton and who was
the new guy behind on the we

1370
01:34:20,250 --> 01:34:22,410
were talking about in the show
called leprosy. Right,

1371
01:34:22,410 --> 01:34:25,920
McKesson? Yeah. And I'm Shaun
King.

1372
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:29,550
Yes. Well, DeRay. Now there was
someone else.

1373
01:34:29,879 --> 01:34:32,969
It was Shaun King there we're
fighting over. Right, right.

1374
01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:35,219
Turf beef, right.

1375
01:34:37,380 --> 01:34:42,510
This is now Dvorak, and I've
called this out on no agenda

1376
01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:46,140
many times going back, you know,
a decade that this is what this

1377
01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:50,520
guy is doing. But never really
we always looked at it from the

1378
01:34:50,700 --> 01:34:56,370
despicable enrichment that he's
doing for himself, and probably

1379
01:34:56,370 --> 01:34:59,730
just stayed away from the race
argument. But of course, it's

1380
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:06,360
the Here's exactly what what it
is it's abusing racial history

1381
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:11,130
for his own good and and
honestly, man, I see a lot of

1382
01:35:11,130 --> 01:35:17,970
black people fawning over, over
both these reverence. And that

1383
01:35:17,970 --> 01:35:18,930
to me is disgusting.

1384
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:26,400
Kiwa reverend? Yeah, yes, yes,
yes. Reverend Michael Eric

1385
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:31,080
Dyson, he's another one. When
you get into that.

1386
01:35:33,630 --> 01:35:37,440
Who? Who was it? Because I know
that we we've either talked

1387
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:39,150
about it or you sent me
something I read about it

1388
01:35:39,150 --> 01:35:43,290
someone it was somewhere as long
as that we should get the get

1389
01:35:43,290 --> 01:35:48,570
the reverence ah. Ah, was that
Margaret Sanger? Aha. That's

1390
01:35:48,570 --> 01:35:52,350
right, the founder of Planned
Parenthood and the American

1391
01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:55,890
eugenics society. Not in that
order. Yes. That the one and

1392
01:35:55,890 --> 01:36:03,240
only she's saying another white
person of the definitely the

1393
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,910
white supremacy I'm sure that
she was a part of that.

1394
01:36:06,420 --> 01:36:10,140
Yes. And Planned Parenthood
itself is part of that system. I

1395
01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:16,500
mean, she's to be I mean, so.
And that's what the weird what

1396
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:21,990
they call a weird Flex is you
got liberals on the same side of

1397
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:25,470
these organizations that are
historically bad for the people

1398
01:36:25,470 --> 01:36:29,310
that you claim to represent. So
it's like, it sends your mind

1399
01:36:29,340 --> 01:36:30,900
into these crazy like,

1400
01:36:31,110 --> 01:36:34,560
a brain freeze, a brain freeze.
You can't short you can't brush

1401
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,540
short, short circuit. Exactly.

1402
01:36:37,140 --> 01:36:39,390
And when you talk to people,
it's like, don't you see this?

1403
01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:45,360
And we have, I might have links
and YouTube videos and copies of

1404
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,670
quotes and it's like, I don't
get it. And then they tell you I

1405
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:52,200
had I have to vote I can't not
vote. Right? I can't. Anyhow,

1406
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:57,900
our I can't you don't have
option. Because one is a solid

1407
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,440
one as black people you can't
not vote. And then two, you

1408
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:05,400
can't vote Republican so you
don't have a choice. So then you

1409
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,520
just live with this. And then
you have people speaking on your

1410
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,590
behalf gaining the benefits and
resources as we've seen with the

1411
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:17,910
people in this white kid kit
guilt, a white guilt kids and

1412
01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:22,020
then learn from the behavior
from the Jesse Jackson's of the

1413
01:37:22,020 --> 01:37:26,250
world. And then the money never
reaches us. And we're like,

1414
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:32,730
what the hell and the just
stopping for a second. And I'll

1415
01:37:32,730 --> 01:37:36,000
Sharpton is more in the picture
now with this business model

1416
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:42,570
than Jesse Jackson. The fawning
and the authority assigned to

1417
01:37:42,570 --> 01:37:47,880
this this nincompoop this this
seriously illiterate man he

1418
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:55,200
cannot speak a single word
properly. is unbelievable. I see

1419
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,500
it. I've always had what why?
Why up and of course, I was in

1420
01:37:58,500 --> 01:38:01,620
New York with the Toronto
Brawley case. You know, when Al

1421
01:38:01,620 --> 01:38:06,240
Sharpton was five times the Al
Sharpton he is now in size. It

1422
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:11,490
was the whole thing. His whole
career has been baffling to me.

1423
01:38:11,820 --> 01:38:16,770
And the media part of the we'll
call it the the white supremacy

1424
01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:25,050
establishment. Because it is in
lockstep. It's disturbing. It's

1425
01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:26,610
always been disturbing to me.

1426
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,830
But it's not baffling to me
because of one word, activation.

1427
01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:39,720
If you can activate the vote,
that's all that matters, to

1428
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,890
activate the streets, and that's
what he meant. He was actually

1429
01:38:43,890 --> 01:38:46,950
more successful than Jesse
Jackson because Jesse Jackson

1430
01:38:46,950 --> 01:38:49,410
actually did come up somewhat
through the Civil Rights

1431
01:38:49,410 --> 01:38:54,270
Movement, where Al Sharpton he
was more of like a kind of

1432
01:38:54,270 --> 01:38:55,350
Street guy. Yeah, it's

1433
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:56,280
a hood law.

1434
01:38:56,700 --> 01:38:57,150
Right?

1435
01:38:57,210 --> 01:39:00,300
He was FBI informant. He's all
kinds of crazy this guy's no

1436
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:01,500
good He's a gangster.

1437
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:07,290
Right but he can activate the
streets. And MSNBC saw that he

1438
01:39:07,290 --> 01:39:13,380
had a skill set that they could
they could exploit and he and he

1439
01:39:13,380 --> 01:39:18,330
used it. But getting back to the
white guilt ridden people. I

1440
01:39:18,330 --> 01:39:21,300
know the men and the women are
feeling left out. I mean, men

1441
01:39:21,300 --> 01:39:26,610
are feeling left out. Because we
have white guilt kits for women.

1442
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:31,200
And for men we are we have
something for you.

1443
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:36,330
It's very rare to be a black
femme whipping a white man My

1444
01:39:36,330 --> 01:39:39,480
name is mistress velvet. I've
been a dominatrix for four years

1445
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:48,300
and a goddess my whole life the
core of my domination style is

1446
01:39:48,300 --> 01:39:53,580
that I forced slaves to read
Black from this theory. My very

1447
01:39:53,580 --> 01:39:58,680
first Slave I had ended up being
like you are such a nice kind

1448
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,070
and smart person but you will
Ever Vietnam, and that like,

1449
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,110
really upset me

1450
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:12,510
and I was like, No, I don't want
any white man telling me that

1451
01:40:12,510 --> 01:40:15,300
there's something I can't do.
And so that kind of pushed me to

1452
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:18,960
like do a lot of research around
BDSM and kind of cultivate

1453
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,210
myself as a DOM and what that
meant for me.

1454
01:40:22,860 --> 01:40:25,470
Is this also from HBO, Where's
this coming from?

1455
01:40:25,740 --> 01:40:26,580
Buzzfeed.

1456
01:40:29,250 --> 01:40:34,230
So let me get this straight. So
it's black women who dominate

1457
01:40:34,260 --> 01:40:39,510
BDSM with I guess, bondage and,
and whips, etc, and, and

1458
01:40:39,540 --> 01:40:44,160
domination, white men because
they need that and that they it

1459
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,090
makes them feel good.

1460
01:40:45,809 --> 01:40:48,869
Not only that, but she makes
them read black feminist books.

1461
01:40:49,349 --> 01:40:50,189
He was that part.

1462
01:40:54,390 --> 01:41:00,180
Ah, now I know what they say by
making America great again. Pay

1463
01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:00,570
to

1464
01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:05,640
how it all started in terms of
me kind of like now building a

1465
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,680
curriculum of black feminist
theory for slaves was one slave

1466
01:41:10,710 --> 01:41:14,940
came into our sessions with a
lot of emotional baggage and

1467
01:41:14,940 --> 01:41:17,580
lots of white guilt. And so I
just turned to the people I

1468
01:41:17,580 --> 01:41:20,370
trust, I turned to Patricia
Hill, Collins and Audrey Lorde.

1469
01:41:20,370 --> 01:41:22,920
And was like, these are some
texts and readings that have

1470
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,560
been really powerful for me and
shaped my thinking around

1471
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,230
things. Why don't you try
reading Audrey Lorde. And see

1472
01:41:28,230 --> 01:41:31,110
like, how it makes you feel. And
while you're at it write me like

1473
01:41:31,110 --> 01:41:35,820
1000 words, I couldn't even look
at an essay. If you could pull

1474
01:41:35,820 --> 01:41:39,150
it up on your phone. Could you
bring me my phone, I will

1475
01:41:39,150 --> 01:41:45,000
probably read this last
paragraph of this essay that I

1476
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,690
got yesterday. I am very aware
of the real capacity and

1477
01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:52,530
potential of black women. Not
only physical, but intellectual

1478
01:41:52,530 --> 01:41:55,770
and emotional. It is my
obligation to pass this

1479
01:41:55,770 --> 01:41:59,280
knowledge to as many people as
possible, making the word of

1480
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:05,220
mistress velvet a fact and rule
among Latin males to the

1481
01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:08,370
knowledge passing spreading the
knowledge of mistress velvet

1482
01:42:08,370 --> 01:42:10,590
across the world. Kind of funny.

1483
01:42:11,429 --> 01:42:17,309
Nice touch to bring in the
Latinos. Nice touch.

1484
01:42:17,790 --> 01:42:22,920
Very nice touch. So man, do you
realize what you're hearing

1485
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:23,460
Adam?

1486
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,760
I'm hearing some crazy shit is
what I'm hearing right here.

1487
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,940
This is what this is guilt gone
bad man. This

1488
01:42:29,940 --> 01:42:33,480
is very low. Go away. This is
keeping it real goes wrong.

1489
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:42,060
Exactly. Holy crap. What we're
hearing is a white man is paying

1490
01:42:42,090 --> 01:42:48,420
a white a black woman. So as a
form of power structure in

1491
01:42:48,420 --> 01:42:55,530
itself. Yeah. To pretend that
she has power over him to grid

1492
01:42:55,530 --> 01:43:01,020
him of his guilt. Which is the
catch all,

1493
01:43:01,290 --> 01:43:04,320
which he's paying for which
really makes the circle

1494
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,390
completely round and changes
nothing.

1495
01:43:07,110 --> 01:43:16,290
Which actually says he's in
power. Yes. Oh, man. That's just

1496
01:43:17,190 --> 01:43:21,300
I know, I know, a sec sales. But
just for that purpose of that. I

1497
01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:24,210
had to add the clip in the show.
Because he's like, What? How

1498
01:43:24,210 --> 01:43:30,960
Don't you realize he's paying
you? Yeah, to play alone in the

1499
01:43:31,140 --> 01:43:33,150
capacity that he wants you to
play along

1500
01:43:33,180 --> 01:43:36,780
to make to make him feel good
for 30 minutes or an hour or

1501
01:43:36,780 --> 01:43:38,820
whatever he's paying for. And
then go on.

1502
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:40,620
Homework last Yeah.

1503
01:43:43,950 --> 01:43:45,570
We laugh but it's so sad.

1504
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,460
Sad if he had lab to keep them
crying. Yeah. Oh, they pay

1505
01:43:50,460 --> 01:43:50,820
three.

1506
01:43:50,820 --> 01:43:53,460
Yes, please. I need more of
this. What mistress

1507
01:43:53,820 --> 01:44:00,270
helped me see with the black
feminist theory and readings was

1508
01:44:00,330 --> 01:44:06,480
how much deeper? Everything goes
and how much deeper and how much

1509
01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:10,800
more I owe. Being a white man
and benefiting from this system

1510
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:16,140
of privilege and oppression. I
definitely fetishized mistress.

1511
01:44:16,290 --> 01:44:20,700
At first. I've done a lot of
work to really try to unpack

1512
01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:23,580
that and unlearn. The
fetishization

1513
01:44:23,790 --> 01:44:27,210
for those that have like a weird
fetish of like blackness and

1514
01:44:27,210 --> 01:44:30,780
black women. They're gonna
really eat that up. And so I

1515
01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:34,770
kind of have this like, weird
dual relationship with my

1516
01:44:34,770 --> 01:44:39,060
fetishization where I use it to
get clients. But then I want to

1517
01:44:39,060 --> 01:44:41,910
process through it with them as
well. I remember one time I went

1518
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:45,150
to a play party, and I opened
the door and this white person

1519
01:44:45,150 --> 01:44:47,490
says, Hey, you want to be my
slave? I'm just like,

1520
01:44:47,670 --> 01:44:51,240
immediately blown away about
like, the depth of that word and

1521
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:55,650
their inability to like
recognize, like how, like the

1522
01:44:55,650 --> 01:44:59,250
weight of saying that to a black
person, when in the past has

1523
01:44:59,250 --> 01:45:02,790
been used white by white people
to talk about black people, and

1524
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:06,330
enslaved Africans, and now I'm
being able to really like

1525
01:45:06,330 --> 01:45:09,870
appropriate that word and call
my white men, slaves. And that

1526
01:45:09,870 --> 01:45:14,760
feels really powerful in that
way. My slaves pay my rent, they

1527
01:45:14,910 --> 01:45:17,820
helped me pay my student loans
back, you know, they're like

1528
01:45:17,820 --> 01:45:21,240
funding my life. I don't want to
undermine the fact that black

1529
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,450
people in the US and in Africa
are owed a significant amount of

1530
01:45:24,450 --> 01:45:28,560
reparations, but I find myself
trying to get some of that with

1531
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:29,190
my clients.

1532
01:45:30,930 --> 01:45:34,350
Okay, reparations, it was
waiting for it. And there it is.

1533
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,200
She invokes it and it's
discussed, like I said,

1534
01:45:37,350 --> 01:45:42,000
completely disgusting. Oh, I'm
just going to leave that there.

1535
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:47,910
I'm gonna need a shower. Yeah,
that's crazy. This is your way

1536
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:53,190
gay rapper. Right? Yeah. Oh, I
want the I wanted to say, This

1537
01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:56,220
is why we need reparations. And
the reason why I say this is why

1538
01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:59,850
I'm a big supporter of
reparations, because it wipes

1539
01:45:59,850 --> 01:46:05,220
the slate clean. After this
point, no more guilt. No more,

1540
01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:10,980
you know, it's like a atonement.
It's a it's a cleanser. That

1541
01:46:10,980 --> 01:46:14,940
way, from our side, we can say,
you know, we've been an eight

1542
01:46:14,940 --> 01:46:18,090
hour speaker for eight hours,
we've been compensated anybody

1543
01:46:18,090 --> 01:46:22,230
else, that they have to deal
with America in their in their

1544
01:46:22,230 --> 01:46:25,950
capacity, or however they want
to deal with it. And, and white

1545
01:46:25,950 --> 01:46:28,770
people won't have to feel any
more guilt for the past sins of

1546
01:46:28,770 --> 01:46:29,640
the foreigner ears.

1547
01:46:29,790 --> 01:46:34,500
So about first for people who
are new to the show a DOS

1548
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:38,370
American descendant of slavery.
So there's a differentiator in,

1549
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:43,320
yes. And that's important in
this. But of course, that

1550
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:47,070
doesn't solve the actual
problem. And because as we have

1551
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:52,440
unfolded here, white supremacy
is a one world global government

1552
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:57,030
that continues to rule and will
continue to use race to divide

1553
01:46:57,030 --> 01:47:00,180
and conquer, although it may
provide for a temporary

1554
01:47:00,180 --> 01:47:04,410
cleansing such as the black
mistress, whipping the white

1555
01:47:04,410 --> 01:47:12,120
slave. It won't actually fix
anything other than I think it'd

1556
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:17,430
be to me, it sounds like it may
be a 50 year fix or, or a five

1557
01:47:17,430 --> 01:47:20,490
month fix? I don't know. But it
doesn't actually solve the

1558
01:47:20,490 --> 01:47:22,080
problem of white supremacy.

1559
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,590
No, no, no, you can't eat No, I
will solve that problem. I'm

1560
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:33,720
talking about the animosity, or
the that negative guilt, but

1561
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:38,040
that's really interesting. Okay,
so it that's why I think that's

1562
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,890
where Marianne Williamson was
coming from. It's not

1563
01:47:41,009 --> 01:47:44,729
only she say it that way, you
just said it is a sentence, it

1564
01:47:44,729 --> 01:47:45,719
was really simple.

1565
01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:52,710
Right? It's atonement is what it
is. So, this is like, are you

1566
01:47:52,710 --> 01:47:58,260
$1,000 Once I pay you, the guilt
is gone. But then it's like,

1567
01:47:58,860 --> 01:48:02,100
I mean, I'm, I hear where you're
coming from. But we just went

1568
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:06,690
through this whole thing where
that's the dumb American ways,

1569
01:48:06,690 --> 01:48:09,450
oh, let me just pay some money
and it'll be rid of it. What

1570
01:48:09,450 --> 01:48:11,100
you're not? Well,

1571
01:48:11,130 --> 01:48:14,400
there's not much as that's the
thing about it. It has to be

1572
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,750
capital. But it has to be done
in a thoughtful way. And the

1573
01:48:18,750 --> 01:48:21,570
reason why I know we're probably
gonna go long, but this is a

1574
01:48:21,570 --> 01:48:26,520
very neat conversation. Look at
a foreigner action. So and one

1575
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:30,270
of the clips I didn't use Shelby
Steele, he was saying Ivy League

1576
01:48:30,270 --> 01:48:37,140
school the 8% of the each class
open for minorities, black

1577
01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:42,210
minorities, right? If you're you
have poor schools in your

1578
01:48:42,210 --> 01:48:45,390
community, you're not going to
be able to fill up that 8% with

1579
01:48:45,420 --> 01:48:50,490
adequate candidates right? So
then you have to lower their

1580
01:48:50,490 --> 01:48:55,530
standards which makes it even
makes the problem worse because

1581
01:48:55,530 --> 01:48:59,580
then you feel like a token quote
unquote token and you feel a

1582
01:49:00,660 --> 01:49:04,050
guilt it's another kind of guilt
black people feel like I'm only

1583
01:49:04,050 --> 01:49:09,750
here because I was right because
yeah, right. So what I'm saying

1584
01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:14,490
is you take that money you fix
the schools at the elementary

1585
01:49:14,490 --> 01:49:19,500
level, you actually put that
capital of work where you have

1586
01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:24,960
enough candidates that you feel
that 8% slot spot with actual

1587
01:49:24,990 --> 01:49:28,500
adequate candidates that's the
problem No, but see when you

1588
01:49:28,530 --> 01:49:31,890
throw money at the problem with
the great society people are

1589
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:36,210
saying one thing would it didn't
fix nothing? It didn't fix

1590
01:49:36,210 --> 01:49:40,950
anything it I'm double negative
I just didn't fix anything um

1591
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,410
it well worse worse. Affirmative
Action was hijacked.

1592
01:49:47,790 --> 01:49:50,790
That's a whole nother whole
nother show but

1593
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:53,280
it's true affirmative action was
high. Very true.

1594
01:49:53,310 --> 01:49:56,940
Yeah. By everything that that we
held the door open while

1595
01:49:56,970 --> 01:50:00,330
everybody else went in. Yeah, is

1596
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:06,180
Yeah. So okay. I don't want to
dwell on too long on this. But I

1597
01:50:06,180 --> 01:50:08,550
think we've talked about
reparations before. In fact,

1598
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:12,570
that's part of how we met is me
trying to understand what was

1599
01:50:12,570 --> 01:50:17,520
going on in Congress with a das
and reparations. And, you know,

1600
01:50:17,550 --> 01:50:20,310
which hasn't really moved much
further since we started talking

1601
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:25,290
about it. And I know, so you're
for reparations, and it has to

1602
01:50:25,290 --> 01:50:30,480
be capital, but you can't trust
any government to put the

1603
01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:33,750
capital to good work. In fact,
that's the weak part of Marianne

1604
01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:36,330
Williamson's argument, Hey,
she's like, all we'll put a

1605
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:39,210
panel together and the panel
will decide where it goes. And

1606
01:50:39,210 --> 01:50:41,700
you know, that's when my eyes
roll back in my head like, okay,

1607
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:46,020
that's, that's a bonanza that
won't do any good. And so I

1608
01:50:46,020 --> 01:50:49,440
think that's, I think that's why
you're saying, Oh, it should

1609
01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:52,830
just be a check, a big check,
every a DOS person gets a check,

1610
01:50:52,830 --> 01:50:56,520
and then then we're done. Even
Steven, clean slate.

1611
01:50:57,299 --> 01:51:01,409
Well, I'm not saying only a
check, oh, there will have to be

1612
01:51:01,409 --> 01:51:09,719
some money involved of
scholarships, to private schools

1613
01:51:09,719 --> 01:51:14,489
on the elementary level, where,
you know, you have to build in,

1614
01:51:14,819 --> 01:51:18,989
like I said, you have to build
that ground floor. It's gonna

1615
01:51:18,989 --> 01:51:22,049
have to be a generation where
you build that ground floor. You

1616
01:51:22,049 --> 01:51:24,749
just can't say, oh, yeah, we're
gonna open up I believe, 8% of

1617
01:51:24,749 --> 01:51:30,089
the spots and not build a
community from the bottom up.

1618
01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:34,049
This is the whole Boulay town,
the 10 things like oh, yeah,

1619
01:51:34,049 --> 01:51:37,499
well, that 10% In two, I believe
schools, and then they'll do

1620
01:51:37,499 --> 01:51:40,499
right by the by the bottom
bottom. Cool. That doesn't work.

1621
01:51:40,499 --> 01:51:40,679
Who

1622
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:45,960
in your mind, in the political
landscape has the right idea? In

1623
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:50,670
your mind for reparations? Who
is representing your thinking? I

1624
01:51:50,670 --> 01:51:52,890
haven't heard any button. That's
what I was afraid of. No.

1625
01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:00,390
No, it's not a soundbite. It's
not me, it's gonna take actual

1626
01:52:00,390 --> 01:52:04,770
work. Because either you have
two schools of thought, we need

1627
01:52:04,770 --> 01:52:07,800
government programs and no
check, or just cut the check

1628
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:12,480
only. And neither one and a half
a hybrid system of both of those

1629
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:17,460
things to solve the problem, but
I mean, we'll talk about that on

1630
01:52:17,460 --> 01:52:21,510
another day. Because, like I
said, it's just, it's so big of

1631
01:52:21,510 --> 01:52:23,520
a problem that

1632
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:29,970
well, let's just go back to how
we started on this, which is the

1633
01:52:29,970 --> 01:52:33,600
idea that if we just do
something, let's just call it

1634
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:37,590
this if we do something big
enough. What I'm hearing you

1635
01:52:37,620 --> 01:52:42,030
black American mo saying to
white American Adam is if we

1636
01:52:42,030 --> 01:52:44,790
just make it big enough and
significant or significant

1637
01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:48,750
enough, maybe that's the right
word. Then Black people would

1638
01:52:48,750 --> 01:52:50,610
say white people, you're off the
hook.

1639
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,140
Is not black people are saying
you're on the hook is these

1640
01:52:55,140 --> 01:53:00,600
Grifters. What we're trying to
do is eliminate the Grifters.

1641
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:06,660
Well see they're speaking on our
behalf right, the Jesse

1642
01:53:06,660 --> 01:53:08,310
Jackson's the so what

1643
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:12,540
black deals stand? So you're the
only guy I don't know. You're

1644
01:53:12,570 --> 01:53:15,180
one of the few I know but you're
the only guy I know is saying

1645
01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:18,630
Jesse Jackson is a grifter. Al
Sharpton is a grifter. There's

1646
01:53:18,630 --> 01:53:21,780
not a lot of people standing up
saying that Mo. I say

1647
01:53:21,780 --> 01:53:26,250
actually, Jesse Jackson was ran
out of Ferguson. You know, the

1648
01:53:26,250 --> 01:53:27,690
news is don't tell you this.

1649
01:53:27,690 --> 01:53:34,530
Thank you. Thank you. So, okay.
So I feel very good now. Because

1650
01:53:34,530 --> 01:53:40,050
I feel like I am contributing
with a podcast. And we're not

1651
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,420
immune. We're contributing
something by opening the

1652
01:53:42,420 --> 01:53:45,060
dialogue and just being able to
talk about it like Americans,

1653
01:53:45,060 --> 01:53:50,970
which is to me quite easy. But
the warning is these people

1654
01:53:50,970 --> 01:53:53,100
these eight holes over here,
those are the ones you got to

1655
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:56,280
look out for you got to be
careful of. And yeah, cuz

1656
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:58,710
they're you they're playing off
each other. They're playing.

1657
01:53:59,340 --> 01:54:03,240
You're speaking on my behalf to
use an atom, right kick kicking

1658
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,830
and chipping, chipping. Right
and then it never comes back to

1659
01:54:07,830 --> 01:54:12,090
me and then we're like, what the
hell gotcha, you know, um, so if

1660
01:54:12,090 --> 01:54:16,350
you say, we get together have a
conversation like I look, we're

1661
01:54:16,350 --> 01:54:21,120
going to do ABC. It takes the
power away from those the middle

1662
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:23,190
the middle traders.

1663
01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:27,600
And there's a lot of them.
There's a lot of the MO there's

1664
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:31,200
a lot trading on this a lot in
entertainment, a lot of very

1665
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:36,180
influential people. And they and
they're all part of the problem.

1666
01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:39,030
And that's why I call them
disgusting. I mean, that's the

1667
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:42,600
word for the day. They're
disguised disgusting, because so

1668
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,210
I want to end on a high note. I
know we got you know,

1669
01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:48,960
we're not done yet. Are we? I'm
having a good time.

1670
01:54:50,010 --> 01:54:54,690
Okay, now, let's okay. Even the
kids aren't safe.

1671
01:54:55,590 --> 01:54:58,920
Especially the kids aren't safe.
What are you talking right there

1672
01:54:58,920 --> 01:54:59,550
the future?

1673
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,290
The Greater

1674
01:55:01,860 --> 01:55:05,610
we end tonight with a poem
written and performed by an

1675
01:55:05,610 --> 01:55:09,030
Atlanta teenager this past
spring, but it's been getting

1676
01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:12,690
new attention from millions
after the violence that shook

1677
01:55:12,690 --> 01:55:15,450
America last week. Here's Mark
Strassman.

1678
01:55:18,449 --> 01:55:21,059
My poem is titled white boy and
privilege.

1679
01:55:21,450 --> 01:55:25,680
White Boy privilege was an entry
in a school poetry contest.

1680
01:55:25,919 --> 01:55:29,879
To be honest, I'm scared of what
it would be like if I wasn't on

1681
01:55:29,879 --> 01:55:32,819
the top rung if the tables were
turned, and I didn't have my

1682
01:55:32,819 --> 01:55:35,639
whiteboard privilege safety
blanket to protect me.

1683
01:55:35,850 --> 01:55:39,870
Royce man's message was a plea
from a 14 year old white male

1684
01:55:39,930 --> 01:55:44,430
going into a private school in
Atlanta. Let everyone share his

1685
01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:45,270
privileges.

1686
01:55:45,779 --> 01:55:49,619
I love it. Because when I see a
police officer, I see someone

1687
01:55:49,619 --> 01:55:50,159
who's on my

1688
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:55,319
side. I'm just trying to be
truthful, about like, how I

1689
01:55:55,319 --> 01:55:58,259
wouldn't trade places with
somebody and that I think a lot

1690
01:55:58,259 --> 01:56:01,799
of people sometimes are such a
thought about that

1691
01:56:02,039 --> 01:56:06,209
racial division seared America
last week, after Minnesota,

1692
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:11,549
Baton Rouge and Dallas man's
poem struck a nerve online. Many

1693
01:56:11,579 --> 01:56:16,199
loved it. Others attacked him.
More than 8 million people have

1694
01:56:16,199 --> 01:56:16,769
seen it.

1695
01:56:17,009 --> 01:56:20,309
Everyone should have the
privileges. They should be

1696
01:56:20,309 --> 01:56:24,419
writing. Everyone's story should
be reading. So all they have to

1697
01:56:24,419 --> 01:56:27,659
do is get it read. Again, the
change can be scary, but

1698
01:56:27,659 --> 01:56:28,979
equality shouldn't be.

1699
01:56:29,340 --> 01:56:32,340
I'm not asking anybody to give
up their lives to fight for

1700
01:56:32,340 --> 01:56:35,550
equality. I have other dreams
too. I'm just asking you to try

1701
01:56:35,550 --> 01:56:39,150
be an ally do your share. When
you see something that you think

1702
01:56:39,150 --> 01:56:41,640
is wrong. There's discrimination
speak up,

1703
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:45,630
it's time to let go of that
fear. It's time to take that

1704
01:56:45,630 --> 01:56:48,030
ladder and turn it into a
bridge.

1705
01:56:49,980 --> 01:56:54,240
Also won that poetry contest.
Mark Strassman, CBS News,

1706
01:56:54,270 --> 01:56:54,840
Atlanta.

1707
01:56:55,860 --> 01:57:01,020
Child abuse, child abuse out you
took it took the words right out

1708
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:04,470
of my mouth. This kid I'm not
going to harp on this kid

1709
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:08,430
because it would only be further
to child abuse. But come on.

1710
01:57:08,490 --> 01:57:09,030
Yeah.

1711
01:57:10,170 --> 01:57:14,550
Doesn't. Doesn't that make you
feel like despair? If that's

1712
01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:17,460
what's going on? That's the
future. That's that's what's

1713
01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:22,410
being created? It does to me.
Yeah.

1714
01:57:25,140 --> 01:57:30,450
I don't know how you know what?
Well, he understand how the

1715
01:57:30,450 --> 01:57:33,600
world really works. And you
could tell he does it and what

1716
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:37,470
we're doing is condoning
highlighting children. And not

1717
01:57:37,470 --> 01:57:40,290
only him, I'm just gonna make
this a bigger issue of they

1718
01:57:40,290 --> 01:57:43,350
don't understand how the world
works. And they will say if you

1719
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:47,040
want everybody to have
privilege, then it's not

1720
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:51,450
privilege right? Now what we
should want is, Oh, stop,

1721
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:58,530
Oh, stop, shoot. Okay, it just
hit me. If we want everyone to

1722
01:57:58,530 --> 01:58:02,010
have privilege, there's no
privilege. You know what that's

1723
01:58:02,010 --> 01:58:08,790
called Mo, socialist, socialism.
It's what we're moving towards

1724
01:58:08,820 --> 01:58:13,770
and that and so this white guilt
is a huge driver of the young

1725
01:58:13,770 --> 01:58:17,220
people being without knowing
exactly what it is. I've lived

1726
01:58:17,220 --> 01:58:20,790
in socialist countries. There's,
there's good there's a lot of

1727
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:25,890
not so good or stuff I don't
like. But for sure. Everyone

1728
01:58:25,890 --> 01:58:30,690
becomes equal. And then everyone
is it really pulls everybody

1729
01:58:30,690 --> 01:58:32,490
down. Doesn't elevate

1730
01:58:32,849 --> 01:58:33,839
nothing. Yeah.

1731
01:58:35,790 --> 01:58:36,810
Nothing. Yes, right.

1732
01:58:37,260 --> 01:58:40,440
You're happy. You're happy.
You're 200 200 square foot

1733
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:45,000
apartment with your two pair of
Lululemon underwear, Lulu, lemon

1734
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:49,050
socks, and your bunk beds and
your bunk bed? Your bunk bed?

1735
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,470
That's what they're preparing
for it. But it's like, you have

1736
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:56,160
to trick them in their mind. But
as we all know what any

1737
01:58:56,190 --> 01:59:00,240
communist or socialist regime
there's always a ruling class.

1738
01:59:00,270 --> 01:59:04,530
Yeah. Which goes back to the
original statement of the elite

1739
01:59:04,530 --> 01:59:09,930
or empire. It's just a different
kind of empire. Yes. There you

1740
01:59:09,930 --> 01:59:16,050
have it. Wow. I, oh,

1741
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:20,400
I loved this is not quite what I
expected. I didn't know exactly

1742
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,370
what to expect from this show. I
really liked where we took this.

1743
01:59:23,580 --> 01:59:27,900
And I really like that from the
outset. And this is the basis of

1744
01:59:27,900 --> 01:59:32,610
the show. We both agree. There's
a ruling class there's

1745
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:38,760
personified by certain people,
and they are the supremacy and

1746
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:44,400
they're most likely all white.
So we can say supremacy with

1747
01:59:44,460 --> 01:59:48,600
certainty. And it's the enemy of
all mankind.

1748
01:59:49,980 --> 01:59:54,210
They are the enemy of justice.
Remember that the opposition to

1749
01:59:54,210 --> 01:59:59,550
this is justice. Give me a fair
shot. Call the game fair the

1750
01:59:59,550 --> 02:00:03,000
sports and analogy and let me
compete. That's all we're asking

1751
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:09,960
for. That's all we're asking
for. Um, but so we're wrapping

1752
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,890
up here, and I want to end the
show on a joke if you don't

1753
02:00:13,890 --> 02:00:14,400
mind.

1754
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,910
Just so although there's been
some pretty funny shit going on

1755
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:21,360
in the show. Don't know if
anything could top the white

1756
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:22,110
guilt kit

1757
02:00:22,830 --> 02:00:26,880
on actual joke. Okay. Number 30.

1758
02:00:27,690 --> 02:00:30,480
Oh, sorry. Not not saying why
people aren't evil either,

1759
02:00:30,510 --> 02:00:34,800
because I know where you got the
evil in me. I do. I guess I can

1760
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:38,730
feel it. That's why I try to
suppress it. I tried to dress

1761
02:00:38,730 --> 02:00:42,240
casual, you know, I mean, I'm
serious, man. I tried a suit on

1762
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,370
the other day, I felt that
coming up like Fuck, man, I want

1763
02:00:44,370 --> 02:00:48,240
to take over some shit, right? I
start telling people what to do.

1764
02:00:48,510 --> 02:00:50,790
I'm gonna go blue lake laying on
my secretary

1765
02:00:57,180 --> 02:00:58,920
like those movies when they make
black and white people get

1766
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:00,870
along, and even those ones seem
ridiculous, you know, because it

1767
02:01:00,870 --> 02:01:03,570
always has to be like some sort
of lesson. And those movies just

1768
02:01:03,570 --> 02:01:07,890
like, you know, I never looked
at it that way. This like, that

1769
02:01:07,890 --> 02:01:11,520
never happens. You know? Anytime
I've ever hung out with a black

1770
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,950
dude, at no point during the
evening is he like tried to like

1771
02:01:13,950 --> 02:01:19,230
Teach me how to dance. In a
racial Footloose moment, they

1772
02:01:19,230 --> 02:01:23,160
always. And I never go to his
neighborhood and like trying to

1773
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:28,800
like save a school, you know?
How many times are they gonna

1774
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,440
make that movie? You know, that
movie? The white person goes

1775
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:36,000
into the projects. They just
have to make a difference. You

1776
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:37,830
know, if they just made the
move, you can what that was

1777
02:01:37,890 --> 02:01:42,540
Hillary Swank. It's like, did
you even need to go see it? It's

1778
02:01:42,540 --> 02:01:45,210
like, Let me guess she shows up
and they don't accept her.

1779
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:49,650
Right. And she goes home, she
cries to her feminine boyfriend

1780
02:01:49,650 --> 02:01:51,840
is wearing sweatpants. And he's
cooking something for some

1781
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:56,070
reason, right? And he convinces
her and convinces her to give it

1782
02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:59,820
one more chance right? Since she
goes back down there, she starts

1783
02:01:59,820 --> 02:02:02,130
drawing out their inner beauty
next scene. Oh, they put a do

1784
02:02:02,130 --> 02:02:06,240
rag on and she starts fucking
dancing. And it's embarrassing.

1785
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:10,050
For all races involved for the
love of God. Stop making that

1786
02:02:10,050 --> 02:02:10,770
fucking movie.

1787
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:16,860
Birdman, he's fantastic. There's
a number of really good

1788
02:02:16,860 --> 02:02:19,980
comedians who are doing some
great stuff now. He's definitely

1789
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:23,010
one. That's that's why we got to
have honesty.

1790
02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:28,710
Yeah, it's the funniest part.
Exactly. And there's none

1791
02:02:28,710 --> 02:02:31,740
of raise attention. Breathe
attention to what's really going

1792
02:02:31,740 --> 02:02:32,490
on. So

1793
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:37,230
yeah. Oh, wow. This is this has
been really good. I've

1794
02:02:37,230 --> 02:02:40,440
thoroughly enjoyed doing this
with you. And I think that this

1795
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:43,410
is just the beginning of the
show, really, of the stuff that

1796
02:02:43,410 --> 02:02:48,720
we can get into. And I hope that
everyone who has been listening

1797
02:02:49,290 --> 02:02:53,370
understands that we have a
common and a common enemy in

1798
02:02:53,370 --> 02:02:57,690
this. And they're not always
that visible. But definitely we

1799
02:02:57,690 --> 02:03:02,040
have a common enemy and they
have very powerful tools. Tools

1800
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:06,150
such as television tools, such
as well the this is the beauty

1801
02:03:06,150 --> 02:03:12,360
of the internet is it is being
used for great evil currently,

1802
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:16,170
but there's a lot of great good
and if anyone just invest a

1803
02:03:16,170 --> 02:03:18,240
little bit of time and little
bit of effort, little bit of

1804
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,930
energy, you too can do what
we're doing. It's not all that

1805
02:03:21,930 --> 02:03:25,590
hard. You just have to want to
do it and just be fucking honest

1806
02:03:25,590 --> 02:03:26,580
for change.

1807
02:03:29,940 --> 02:03:35,220
I gotta go order my white guilt
kid here. Thank you so much for

1808
02:03:35,220 --> 02:03:37,620
putting this together. Mo I
really enjoy it as you know.

1809
02:03:38,670 --> 02:03:41,940
Are you welcome. And as I always
say, pay attention to

1810
02:03:41,940 --> 02:03:44,310
everything. And the truth will
reveal itself.

1811
02:03:44,580 --> 02:03:47,910
And this is a value for value
podcast. It's very simple. You

1812
02:03:47,910 --> 02:03:52,350
just listen to two hours of two
guys go on going at it. If you

1813
02:03:52,350 --> 02:03:56,700
are entertained. What is your
time worth? What have you spent

1814
02:03:57,150 --> 02:04:01,200
for two hours of entertainment
or information? That's why we

1815
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:04,860
call it value for value we've
delivered the value to you. All

1816
02:04:04,860 --> 02:04:08,040
we ask is that you consider
sending some back to us so we

1817
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:12,120
can keep this going. Mo
facts.com is our website and Mo

1818
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:17,460
fund me.com mov Fu N dme.com is
where you can support the show.

1819
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:21,390
All different payment methods
are accepted. Thank you again

1820
02:04:21,390 --> 02:04:22,920
for listening. I'll talk to you
next week. Mo

1821
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:24,540
Alright, see you next week.

1822
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,740
Take care everybody. See you
soon right here on mo fax with

1823
02:04:28,740 --> 02:04:42,960
Adam curry. Down the street
smoggy. Looking at the sky

1824
02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:04,230
Sweden