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Moe Factz with Adam Curry for
September 23 2019, episode

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number eight. as we wind down
the month, it's time to do

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another show Moe how're you
doing?

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I'm doing very well. How you
doing, Adam?

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I'm doing day ending.
Outstanding. Everyone really

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loved the last episode got a lot
of real good positive feedback

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about you.

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Nothing but positive feedback on
this side as well.

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Excellent. Excellent. So you
told me I can't remember must

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have been last week over the
weekend, you kind of let me know

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what the what the topic would
be. It may be incredibly

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topical, considering the Emmy
Awards last night. So I'm very

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curious to see what's going to
happen on today's Moe Factz with

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Adam curry.

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Yes. The Emmys was a pleasure.
Not a pleasant surprise. But I

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didn't follow that closely. But
I do see one headline where I'm

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the black male. Lead. Yep. What
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Billy. Billy, his name is Billy.
Right. Billy with crazy hat.

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And this is gonna be so ironic
about this. What we're going to

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talk about talk about in today's
show. What happened last year

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with Billy, do you remember what
happened with Billy last year?

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You know, to be honest, Billy
Porter, I think the keeper and I

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tried to watch pose once or
twice and just really couldn't

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get into it. And I really, you
know, I didn't think about Billy

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Porter until I saw him with that
hat. I'm like Joe right. Now

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that's the lid right there. I
haven't I can't remember at all

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what happened last year?

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Well, Billy's hat. Wasn't his
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your Billy wore a dress to the
Emmys. Oh, okay. And this is

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going to be very, very important
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to talk about today. But I mean,
just disavow that away, disavow

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that word drift drift to the
Emmys last year? And he wins

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this year? Okay. All right.

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I hear your skepticism already.
All right. Take us through it

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Moe.

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All right, so we start the show
off on a more somber note.

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What's going to lead us in
today's show is what happened in

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the past week? With Mr. Ed book?

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Ah, yes, yes, we've had our eye
on him for a couple of years.

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He's been in all kinds of
trouble, but not really in

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trouble. And now he's really in
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So last show, I went on a
tangent. Um, and at a later

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date, we would discuss the LGBT
alliance with with black

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movement, right. So with this
happening with Ed buck, this

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gave us the proper context. To
have this conversation is funny

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how those things work out. I
didn't plan to have this

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conversation. This or I mean, I
plan to have but it's amazing

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how the timing worked out that
it gave us the perfect Leap,

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leap off point to have this
conversation. So let's just get

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into a little background. We're
a little clip heavy today, so

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I'm gonna get right into it.
Let's get into pre arrest.

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Serial predator Ed book

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investigators in California
looking into the second death of

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an African American man in the
home of democratic megadonor. Ed

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buck. Over the span of less than
two years. The man now being

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identified as 55 year old
Timothy Dean, he died of an

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apparent overdose back in July
of 2017 26 year old Jamil more

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was found dead of a meth
overdose in the same apartment.

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Our next guest has been sounding
the alarm on Ed buck for over a

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year. Journalist and political
commentator Jasmine Kanak joins

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us right now. Live from LA with
more. Jasmine, good morning to

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you.

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Good morning.

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Let's start at the beginning who
is Ed buck?

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At buck is a major donor to the
California Democratic Party as

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well as a lot of its elected
members. He's given lots and

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lots of money he's a well known
animal rights activist as well

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as an LGBT activist.

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No I didn't know about the
animal rights part that's cool.

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So the these clips this this
first series of clips is post

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the second man black gay man
dying and Ed books. Apartment

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due to drug overdose in the same
manner, and prior to the third

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victim, yeah, who the most
recent victim that escaped, he

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was able to escape. He got out
alive. That's right. So just to

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set that up, and so on. This is
a great, great backgrounder. So

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let's get into clip number two,

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you have been a democratic
activist for a while you worked

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on Capitol Hill, you are worked
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very upsetting to you
personally, why regarding the

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Democratic Party,

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because over 77% of black people
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we vote for Democrats. It is a
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this happens when you have the
chair of your state party, who

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at the time was Eric baman, who
was very good friends with Ed

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buck, was willing to turn a
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others not to speak on it. As a
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I expect more from my party.
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investment that black people
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being killed. When we are being
hurt. And we're being harmed. We

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expect the Democratic Party to
stand up for what's right. If it

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was someone who was white, if it
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the Democratic Party would have
took a completely different

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position. But because these are
young, black gay men, who are

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largely invisible, I feel like
my party just feels like they're

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not worth it. And that's
absolutely wrong.

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Yeah. And obviously, when when
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guy was odd in his apartment,
yeah, it was pretty clear that

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it seemed like there was some
protectionism going on seeing as

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Mr. Mr. Buck was a huge
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That is, that is correct. And it
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Kamala Harris, being the pro
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being the former da, mean of,
you know, in California, and

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holding the post that she has
held in California, didn't bring

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attention to this. Like she
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I've searched high and low and I
can't find anything her. Well,

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I'm not surprised that she
hasn't. Because he I mean, he's

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a big time donor. And you know,
that money trickles down or up

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or however you want to look at
it. across different multiple

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campaigns. Also, I'm surprised
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black gay rights groups that
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the point where you have two day
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apartment, you would think this
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MSNBC when he when the first two
bodies occurred, and just for

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background, they did find
syringes full of drugs in his

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apartment, and he didn't even
get a drug charge.

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Yes, special privilege. Don't
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donor. Right, so she makes a
prediction. In the third clip,

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let's hear what she makes her
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See, black men have died in this
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within 60 within 18 months. And
that is not a coincidence. Like

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I said, we have nearly a dozen
young men who have come forward

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who are sharing their stories
with detectives who have spoken

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to me, this is a pattern, this
is a practice of that buck, it

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is very clear that if he is not
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body.

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Okay, well, she was right on the
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A dozen people came forward. A
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killer. Allegedly, allegedly.
Okay, if the allegations are

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true. He's He's killing people
with the same method. And he's

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targeting it seems to be a
certain group of people. I think

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that qualifies you if if the
charges are true? Let's be I

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have to, you know, just for
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just just to be fair, if these
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you know, there's it's different
than a serial killer. Could be

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manslaughter. I'm not a lawyer,
obviously. So I what you're

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insinuating is interesting, and
it's all allegedly, is that he

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might be doing this on purpose.
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And then as we get more into the
story, we're going to hear more

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details. So now, now, we fast
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luckily that God survived and
him survive and he was able to

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tell his tale which the other
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And we see some action
happening. So Edie was arrested

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after 30 Victim

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A prominent democratic donor
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running a drug den after three
men reportedly overdose in his

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Hollywood home. The most recent
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men have died and Edie bucks
home in the last two years. Fox

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News Chief Breaking News
correspondent trace Gallagher

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and our West Coast newsroom with
the whole story trace.

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And Laura prosecutors call Ed
buck a violent sexual predator

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who preys on men struggling with
addiction and homelessness,

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luring them into his home with
the promise of drugs, money and

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shelter and adding that the full
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is still unknown. In this latest
case, buck is accused of

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injecting a 37 year old man with
quote dangerously large doses of

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methamphetamine on September 11.
Then refusing to help when the

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man believed he was overdosing.
He survived but others have not

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been as lucky. In the past few
years, two other men had been

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found dead in Bucks West
Hollywood apartment 26 year old

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Jamel more 55 year old Timothy
Dean both overdosed on

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methamphetamine. At the time.
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charge buck. Even though the
Jamel wore Roy Moore wrote in

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his journal the time, quote, I
become addicted to drugs. And

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the worst one is that Ed buck is
the one to thank he gave me my

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first injection of crystal meth.
It was very painful. But after

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all the troubles

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I became addicted, right. So and
this is coming from the third

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victim or is this still Fox News
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that was that was they found the
diary of the second victim?

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Right. And his that's what he
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obviously I mean, of course,
according to I mean, we have to

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be careful here, according to
his diary. And book is the one

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that got him hooked on

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meth right, by your doctor by
direct injection, which is bad

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Yeah. And the third victim was
said to be given a dangerously

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high dose of meth, right. And ed
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when he said he was overdosing.
So one of the narratives were Ed

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Buck was taking guys off the
street, they were struggling

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with addiction. And he was kind
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help them, you know, so they
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elsewhere. But these accounts of
the victims were either through

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a diary or the third victim's
actual account kind of pushed

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back against that.

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Right. So they have a different
narrative in there. And their

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accounts match.

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Yes. And they go counter to how
it was being explained away.

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Because I've been tracking this
story since it first happened. I

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mean, this is this is one of the
things that it didn't make it

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crossed the threshold of Black
Twitter, me to white Twitter.

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And in the fact that the level
of details, well, I definitely

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crossed my, my great Twitter
threshold, even even the first

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time around. But there's been
known there's been no mainstream

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news coverage, really. So that
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the cycle, you had to get it on
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social networks, it's got to be
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on cable news or, or other
television stations. So yeah,

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definitely low exposure to the
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And that's the point I was
making about not making the call

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it blips on the radar. Yep. Oh,
you know, but the level of

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finding of a diary of one of the
victims where, you know, where

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he was saying he was being
injected, those things didn't

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make it, you know, didn't bubble
to the surface. But now, I think

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they have to get rid of Ed book.

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He's probably he's definitely
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causing big problems. Because
he's causing a fissure in the

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voting bloc, that the Democrats
have created. And this is what

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more of the show is going to be
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conglomerate of different
groups, how they enter work, how

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to intermingle that being black
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community. This is best where
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In the show, no. And here, I was
thinking we were finally going

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to do a true crime podcast. Oh,
okay. All right, back to the

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No, you know, I have to go. I
have to go left sometimes. Cuz

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you can hear this story just to
hear the story anywhere, but I'm

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gonna give it context. I think
that's what people kind of tune

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into here. But let's listen to
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Well, reportedly, Horace He
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them younger man, to his home,
is extremely affluent. He's a

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very prominent LGBT activist,
and activist causes, he would

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lure them in, and then get them
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handwritten note by Mr. Moore.
This is a tragic case, when you

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look back on the facts, and
Jasmine alluded to this. This

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was known to officials for some
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simple case of lack of evidence?

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It's not a simple case of lack
of evidence, what we see is what

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looks like the Harvey Weinstein
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prominent of fluent influential
Democrats in blue cities are

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literally getting away with
murder. We don't need three of

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these instances, one of these,
you just change the scenario

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just slightly and put the name
of any publicly known Republican

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and have this kind of incident
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they don't stop until they have
the guy in handcuffs.

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Who was the speaking Moe who was
that guy?

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That is Horace? Ah, one second
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black guy or white guy. Yeah,
he's

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just funny, but it was for me.
Oh, he's a black guy. Okay.

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Let's be clear. We don't know
horse

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horse Cooper. Is that him?
Horse? Cooper? Yes. On the

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21st some 21st project or 21
project. And other lady is

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Jasmine from the first eclipse
and she's a democratic operative

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operative pot pundit out and now
I want to bring go back to the

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first of the clips. You heard
how forceful, forceful? She was

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about calling out Democrats?
Yeah. Listen to her tone. And

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the next and these clips.

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First of all, he he acted with
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Secondly, I think this is less
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although that is an issue and
more about the race of the

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victims. And thirdly, look at
the end of the day, you know,

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you know, the the life
expectancy of black gay men in

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LA County has substantially
increased with him being

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arrested. And that is very
important, because he preyed on

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black gay men. Okay, I know
he's, I guess that's very

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important.

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And gay, black, but I want to
push back on your statement. I

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want to push back on your
statement in the bluest state

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city in America. They don't care
about other black men who are

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being exploited. If they don't
care there. There isn't any hope

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anywhere. Here's the much more
likely story that this man's

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influence allowed

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him a lot of cover act

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with impunity. Yeah, you're here
to change your hair tone. Oh,

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yeah. From this first eclipse?
Yeah. I think Miss Jasmine got

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to talking to Oh, yeah. Like,
shut that Democrat stuff down.

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Make this a black issue. Because
Have you heard it? And I'm

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surprised you didn't catch it.
She She did a double up. She

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said look, at the end of the
day. You're right. She you know,

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she hit him back.

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She did hit him back to back.
You're right. You're right.

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Yeah, I feel bad now that I
didn't catch that. Stupid. Yes,

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of course. It's a double

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win. I'll clip that clip. Wow. I
want to see if you caught that

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when she hit it back the bat. I
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overtime to pivot.

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Now what is sort of what is
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background.

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She's a democratic operative in
California, and she was I gotta

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be give her credit. She was one
of the first people to take on

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this Ed book story head on, as
we heard, and that's why I

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played the order clips to hear
the change in narrative. Yeah.

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Because she was going after the
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and this is this is the
difference between clip after

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the second death and now after
the third read Okay, well, yeah,

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there's a big change there for
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That's why you know, just to get
that context. So what you hear

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here is it's not about it can't
be about politics and and horse

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made a great point. If this had
been a Republican donor, Oh,

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yeah. all over all over with
dead black bodies and his house

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would have been a problem. Yes.

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And this is why we look at
people as being disingenuous.

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And I hope black people will see
this, and I hope even LGBT

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people see this, because they
don't have your it's all about

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politics. It's only about
politics to politicians and

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their pundits.

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And just to be fair, politicians
speak justice easily about going

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to war and killing hundreds of
1000s of people on all sides,

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politicians do it. So they are
also in a whole class have

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removed from reality by
themselves.

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Agree and mass, that's the
thing. Is their agenda driven?

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They're not people driven.
They're not they don't even

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believe in the causes that they
push. No, of course, it's all I

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know, stating the obvious here,
but I hope people see that it's

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not about your identity. They
only see you as a ballot. Yeah,

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as a

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chip as a chip to be played in
the big game

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to be activated. Yeah, it is a
common theme, you know, and this

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podcast is all about activation.
So LGBT are being activated in

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the same way blacks are being
activated. But if it's something

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that doesn't benefit them bring
up they they've hidden this

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case, yeah, this this should be
something that should be all

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over. Let's get the clip number
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It is not true to say that this
issue turns on race. What this

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issue is turning on it, that's
what we need to watch is are we

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allowing people right in our
midst to use their wealth and

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influence to literally get away
with murder? Jasmine?

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Yeah, well, that's my truth.

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That's her truth. Yeah. All
right. So sorry. So I think

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we've all we've addressed all we
can about the ED book, you know,

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just breaking news portion of
this. But I want to look at

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what's behind this. And one of
the common themes that we talked

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about on the show is
homelessness. plays into what

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goes what why these men may
perhaps been victims. Adam, have

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you ever heard of survival sex?

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survival sex at No. It implies
though, that just to stay alive,

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you'll do whatever it takes,
including having sex with

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people.

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So let's hit Miss Tiffany
Graham. She gave a TED Talk. I'd

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always loved one to take because
you get you know, great

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information. Miss Tiffany gram
on homelessness and sex survival

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six,

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let me tell you a story. Andy,
which is not his real name, left

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home when he was 14 years old.
He identifies as queer, which

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means that in his case, he does
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traditional understandings of
gender or sexuality. The home in

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which he was raised, however,
was not a nurturing setting for

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a child whose identity was
constructed in these ways. He

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was also physically and sexually
abused in this home, the

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environment was so oppressive,
that he could not come out of

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the closet. And at one point, he
attempted to commit suicide. He

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knew that if he did not leave,
he would try again. So he did.

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So by the age of 14, he found
himself on his own, and he did

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not have the means to take care
of himself. So he began trading

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sex, for food, for shelter and
for transportation. He did not

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reach out to social service
providers, because he feared

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quite reasonably that they would
either send him to foster care

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or they would send him back to
his parents

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just to go to show you survival
sex is when a person trait as

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you stated, when a person
trades, the only commodity they

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have their bodies for things
that they need. And this

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is a huge problem, certainly
with homeless youth everywhere.

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This is a huge problem. And clip
two goes into that problem.

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And the story is not unusual.
And it highlights a question

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that many people have raised in
the wake of the Supreme Court

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decision legalizing same sex
marriage, after spending more

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than two decades focused on
gaining relationship recognition

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rights. What will the movement
for LGBTQ equality focus on

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next? Many options have
presented themselves but one of

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the most pressing issues is Is
the problem of teen homelessness

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and its particular impact on the
LGBTQ community. So youth

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homelessness, defined as
homelessness affecting anyone

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under the age of 25. What does
it look like, especially for

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LGBTQ kids. In the two most
recent studies conducted by the

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Department of Housing and Urban
Development, they reported the

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following information to
Congress, over 190,000 youth and

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children were homeless on any
given night in 2013. In 2013,

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over 500,000 youth experienced a
homelessness episode that lasted

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for longer than one week.
unaccompanied homeless children

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and youth. In other words, those
who are not with their families

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accounted for approximately 8%
of the overall population of

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homeless youth. And within that
group itself, 86% of them are

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between the ages of 18 and 24.
So of course, that means that

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14% of this group were under the
age of 18. Now, among this group

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of unaccompanied homeless youth
studies vary, but most suggest

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that between 20 and 40% of them
are LGBTQ. And most of the

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studies have settled on a number
that is closer to 40%.

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Wow, some big numbers there. And

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that's some big numbers. Yeah.
And we see, they brought this

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information to Congress. Well, I
haven't heard this asked anyone

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on the on the Democratic side,
talking point to address. Well,

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there's so there's a couple
things going on, I'll interject

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that. The homelessness issue is
always addressed separately, you

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don't hear much about survival,
sex at all. And whenever they're

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talking, whenever they the news,
media, politicians talk about

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homelessness, the only thing
they appear to be able to talk

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about in conjunction with that
is affordable housing. So

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there's no other conversation.
There's no other real

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descriptive talk about what it
is. In fact, we've gotten to a

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point in our society where we
can't even say homeless, you and

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I are touching the, like the
third rail there. You got to say

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experiencing homelessness. So
yeah, it's well, I like

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unhoused. But it's

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funny, but yeah, but it is
comical how they talk about it,

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though. It's

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it's actually extremely
disappointing. Now, the one

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thing I want to say is that one
of these Buck victims was 55 was

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not that young, but maybe we'll
get to that later. I

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don't know. Yes. He? Yes, that's
correct. But the other two were

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very young men. Yes, yeah. In
her 20s. So I'm making the point

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that to give context to the
victims, you know, they've been,

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as the guy say, he didn't have
anywhere to go. And book told

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him come live with me. And the
point I'm going to get to is,

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there is a certain class of
people. As we see Epstein now,

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as we see with Ed book that prey
on the low class. So you have to

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ask yourself, is the
homelessness allowed to happen

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because it creates a large
inventory for these types of

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predators to prey from? Oh,

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wow. Yeah, Moe. That's, that's a
big question.

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I know. I know. But let's get
into clip three.

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survival sex is an enormous
issue two LGBTQ youth between

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the ages of 10 and 25 are 70%
more likely to engage in

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survival sex, while 80% of
homeless transgender youths are

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more likely to have engaged in
survival sex than homeless

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cisgender youths? Now, what do
we mean by survival sex. In

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principle, survival, sex is part
of the wider commercial sex

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trade. People who engage in
survival sex do so because they

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literally have no other way to
survive. So they exchange sex

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for money, they exchange sex for
shelter, they exchange it for

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food, clothing, or any other
good which is a necessity of

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life

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or drugs, obviously,

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or drugs. So I asked a question.
And I'm being serious when I

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asked this question that We see
that a person that St. He was a,

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I think the credit words
purveyor for people that were

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into the type of thing that he
was providing, correct, which

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will be young girls. Yes. And in
this clip that we just played,

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she said a kid as young as 10.
Yeah, 10 years old.

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And by the way, participate, I
talked to Alan Graham from very

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successful homelessness project
here in Austin. And he said,

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This is so this isn't that with
young kids is not just

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perpetrated by old rich guys. It
is part of the homelessness

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experience. Sadly, this happens
all the time. And it's actually

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something people really don't
talk about much. I'm surprised

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that this came on this on the
TED talk, you don't you can't

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find many clips where people
will talk about that.

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I had to dig for this. You are
very, you're right. So what that

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leaves me is to, in recent, a
couple of our last show, I

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brought up a guy named Malik
Yoba. And Malik Yoba has been,

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he's a, he's an actor, famous
black actor. And he's been on

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00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:28,700
the forefront pushing the trans
agenda. Specifically, and why he

447
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:36,110
did that. Transitioning to
trans, I get this mixed up trans

448
00:31:36,110 --> 00:31:38,570
female, a man.

449
00:31:39,260 --> 00:31:45,440
Here's here's how I understand
it. As a trans woman is a man

450
00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:48,110
who identifies and is
transitioning or has

451
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:52,430
transitioned to a woman. And the
reason why seems to be the the

452
00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:59,240
most common occurrence of of
trans is male to females from

453
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,650
what I'm seeing anecdotally,

454
00:32:01,490 --> 00:32:03,500
the reason why I have trouble
with that, because then they say

455
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:05,750
I'm a real woman. So I want to
make sure I get that, right. I

456
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:11,420
don't want to offend anybody.
But a trans woman came out and

457
00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:17,150
said, How are you being pro
trans, when you used to

458
00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:23,480
participate, allegedly,
allegedly in survival six, as

459
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,610
she went on this long, Instagram
tirade, explaining how he would

460
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:36,620
interact with her when she was a
young person. Media silence on

461
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:44,390
her media silence. So I'm going
to show you these agendas, don't

462
00:32:44,390 --> 00:32:49,310
really care about the victims.
And they've been pushing this

463
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:54,200
whole thing and now he's saying,
men that don't try to date trans

464
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,300
women are homophobic Yes,

465
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:57,530
yeah, I've heard this. Sure.

466
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,520
That's his push. And he got a
lot of pushback.

467
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,590
They're transphobic. Sorry to be
correct, that men who won't date

468
00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:09,290
trans women are transphobic

469
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:15,290
transphobic. So he got a lot of
pushback for this from

470
00:33:15,290 --> 00:33:19,910
heterosexual males or
heterosexual agenda in the black

471
00:33:19,910 --> 00:33:24,320
community. So that goal that
leads us to this question is

472
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,210
gay, the new black?

473
00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:30,440
I understand the tension is on
both sides, you know, black

474
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,950
folks that can we have some can
we get something that's ours?

475
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:37,940
Ain't nobody appropriate
alternative jazz? Can we keep

476
00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:43,070
the civil rights? Everybody
ain't black. Now, here's, here's

477
00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:45,530
the thing that I think a lot of
black people miss, is that it's

478
00:33:45,530 --> 00:33:48,140
real flattery for people to try
to compare themselves to black

479
00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:51,530
people. You know, hey, we want
to be black. We're down like

480
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,140
them. It's an insult to a lot of
black people like hate the same

481
00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:58,010
thing. Go dog. So slow down with
that. What's interesting to me,

482
00:33:58,010 --> 00:34:01,610
though, is that many African
American people forget that the

483
00:34:01,610 --> 00:34:05,120
Civil Rights Movement itself was
borrowed. Right, then then pay

484
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,200
some some royalties to Mahatma
Gandhi, because that's where

485
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,710
King got it.

486
00:34:11,870 --> 00:34:17,030
Well, in light of the Emmys last
night, right now there is

487
00:34:18,170 --> 00:34:22,100
there's a lot of groups gearing
up for October 8, there's going

488
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:27,440
to be a hearing the Supreme
Court about Title Seven, which

489
00:34:27,470 --> 00:34:31,760
is Title Seven of the Civil
Rights Act, but their focus is

490
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,120
purely on transgendered rights,

491
00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:40,700
not black. Well, we've seen this
before with soon as the rapper

492
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:45,500
reparations talks came up from
black people in the New York

493
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,440
Times wrote an article about gay
reparations.

494
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:53,270
Yes, and and who else was say it
wasn't, was a Kamala Harris. Did

495
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:55,400
she say that? There was some
there was some other gay

496
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,710
reparations so a recent
candidate I can't remember

497
00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:58,280
exactly.

498
00:34:58,820 --> 00:35:01,880
I can't I can't remember. I
remember the incidents well by I

499
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,380
can't remember exactly who. So
now we have this push that was

500
00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:09,350
that for people who don't know,
that was Michael Eric Dyson

501
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:17,060
speaking on is gay, the new
black. And as he said that it is

502
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:23,840
almost an insult. Some black
people receive it as an insult

503
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,720
that you tried to equate the two
things.

504
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:29,090
Well, I can I can understand
that.

505
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:34,400
But then he goes on to say,
well, you, you borrow the and

506
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,870
this guy's like this. He knows
where he's from academia, you

507
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:45,050
know, so he understands he has
to walk that line. Because he

508
00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:50,780
can't piss off the black people.
Because that's part of his

509
00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:54,380
support. But then he also can't
piss out the LGBT because he'll

510
00:35:54,380 --> 00:36:02,630
get ran out of, you know, his
position at a university. So he

511
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:09,290
in in June, June 23, Elizabeth
Warren reintroduced a bill on

512
00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:14,270
the campaign trail, which could
mean a $57 million tax refund

513
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:19,670
for married LGBT couples. It is
characterized as Warren

514
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:23,570
promising reparations for gay
couples just to tie that in

515
00:36:23,570 --> 00:36:24,020
right up.

516
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,830
And that's what pisses even me
off.

517
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:29,390
It pisses me off.

518
00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:36,500
How do you jump in this? How do
you jump us in line? How did

519
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:45,020
this happen? You took our
president? I mean, okay. Ours, I

520
00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:48,590
mean, but let me we get, we're
gonna have a real conversation

521
00:36:48,590 --> 00:36:52,280
today. Folks, let me start. Let
me just turn down your trigger

522
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,010
down a little bit, because we
want to have a real conversation

523
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,520
as a sentiment among amongst
black people that we already had

524
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,030
to talk about being patient the
first term and then he was going

525
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:08,540
to post a turn up and turnout on
the second term, right. Obama,

526
00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:13,100
he talked about about Obama by
President Obama. We turned out

527
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:17,570
we voted him not with me, but as
a people, we voted him and twice

528
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,940
the expectation was a second
term. He was going to know

529
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:27,380
really push our agenda. That was
that that was this unspoken

530
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:34,310
expectation. Right? Well, he did
turn up. Yep. But not for us.

531
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:34,700
No,

532
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,380
I know exactly what he turned up
for.

533
00:37:37,340 --> 00:37:39,830
For gay marriage. No

534
00:37:39,830 --> 00:37:40,640
bathrooms.

535
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:45,260
I was getting there. I'm sorry.
Trash that transgender bathroom.

536
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:48,500
I mean, that's the Yeah, you
lie. You light up the White

537
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:57,140
House with a rainbow flag? Yeah.
Um, he gives all these gay

538
00:37:57,140 --> 00:38:02,510
historic Civil Rights people.
These awards, the highest

539
00:38:02,510 --> 00:38:06,380
awards. One is going to be
addressed in the next clip.

540
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:08,090
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, too.

541
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:12,050
I think that gay back gay people
do black people a favor and

542
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:15,350
first of all, let's what are we
forgetting here? Some gay people

543
00:38:15,350 --> 00:38:21,140
happen to be black? It is not
like they told them Oh, you're

544
00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:23,270
gay. You don't have to go to the
bank say upfront with us.

545
00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:31,700
Because you're looking for
delicious today. You go to the

546
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:37,370
head of the bus. I don't make
the news. I'm just recording

547
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:37,790
right here.

548
00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:43,640
They got no exemption. James
Baldwin spoke for black people

549
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:49,490
as a black gay man. Barber
Smith. Now Audra Lorda. without

550
00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:52,580
buying Ruston, straight black
people would never enjoy the

551
00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:56,780
rights they enjoy now. Adam
Clayton Powell called Martin

552
00:38:56,780 --> 00:39:00,110
Luther King Jr. up and said, I'm
going to tell a lie that you

553
00:39:00,110 --> 00:39:05,600
invited Russ in the heaven and
affair if you don't put him out.

554
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,930
You know, and you may be getting
to this. Who was the first? The

555
00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:13,580
first guy he mentioned?

556
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:19,850
They are arrested. No. Yeah,
yeah.

557
00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:23,090
No, that was no no the other
name.

558
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,020
Adam Clayton Powell. No, before
that. Shoot. We're gonna we're

559
00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:30,920
gonna put back out

560
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,480
here. Let me see. I think it was
here.

561
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,370
I don't make the news. I'm just
recording right here. No, they

562
00:39:37,370 --> 00:39:40,640
ain't got no exemption. James
Baldwin spoke

563
00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:45,890
up James Baldwin. That's what I
meant. Yes. Bobby quoted James

564
00:39:45,890 --> 00:39:48,530
Baldwin yesterday and he says in
his acceptance speech.

565
00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:57,380
And you know what? Michael Eric
Dyson is being disingenuous. And

566
00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:02,270
we're going to see this. A lot
of the blood At first, when you

567
00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:05,600
say first person to do this
first person to do that, we're

568
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:12,380
LGBT. Oh, we're gonna talk about
Mr. Alan Lee. We're a lot the

569
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:19,310
first Rhodes Scholar. Um he was
the father of the little hand on

570
00:40:19,310 --> 00:40:25,430
myself but he was the father of
of the Harlem Renaissance that I

571
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:29,630
brought up last time. Yes. Okay.
This is where we're headed. He's

572
00:40:29,630 --> 00:40:34,250
being very disingenuous. Because
we as we're gonna point out,

573
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,500
you're saying throughout your
saying the duration of this

574
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:43,310
show, a lot of black first,
we're LGBT. But he brings up Mr.

575
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:47,270
Bae RT Rustin Have you ever
heard of Mr. br wrist? I have

576
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:52,730
not. Okay. Ah, let's listen to
civil rights pioneer

577
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,250
fired was at heart a militant
and revolutionary in the fight

578
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,270
for civil rights,

579
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:02,570
Byard. Rustin served as a
trusted adviser to Dr. Martin

580
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:05,630
Luther King Jr. during the
Montgomery Bus Boycott, but

581
00:41:05,810 --> 00:41:10,280
better known for organizing the
iconic 1963 March on Washington

582
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,700
than one man in America who
could do it did it and that's

583
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,310
why it happened. It had an
architect his name was via

584
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:16,940
Drosten.

585
00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:20,960
But in a time when intolerance
ran high Rustin stood out for

586
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,420
more than just his work on civil
rights.

587
00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:28,490
It was just one of these facts
of life by it is gay. He doesn't

588
00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:31,490
hide it. I said to somebody
wants that he never knew there

589
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:33,380
was a closet to go into

590
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:37,970
by had been attacked, both for
his homosexuality and his old

591
00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:39,230
his political views.

592
00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:42,530
Strom Thurmond did it on the
floor of the United States,

593
00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:42,860
Senator

594
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,970
Thurmond, reference reston's
1953 arrests on a public sex

595
00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:47,600
charge.

596
00:41:48,350 --> 00:41:54,230
The senator is interested in
attacking me, because he is

597
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:58,100
interested in destroying the
movement, he will not get away

598
00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:58,910
with this.

599
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,770
So they the perception is black
people have never been accepting

600
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:11,120
of homosexuals. Everybody that
was Black had to be closeted,

601
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:15,500
but as you're seeing here, we
had a lot of people and

602
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:20,660
prominent positions that were
openly gay. Yeah. Bay aren't

603
00:42:20,660 --> 00:42:25,820
resting in 1986 on when he was
addressing the New York State

604
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:31,520
gay rights bill, to he gave a
speech. The new niggers are

605
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:39,470
gays. And here's a clip. Oh, so
I have a quote though. Oh, good,

606
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:43,100
good, good. He says today,
blacks are no longer the litmus

607
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:47,450
paper and this is 1986. The
today blacks are no longer the

608
00:42:47,450 --> 00:42:51,560
litmus paper or the barometer of
social change. Blacks are in

609
00:42:51,590 --> 00:42:55,040
every segment of society and
there are laws that help to

610
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,760
protect them from racial
discrimination. The new

611
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,530
neighbors are gays in this in
this sense, the gay people are

612
00:43:03,530 --> 00:43:06,860
the new barometer for social
change. The question of social

613
00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:09,920
change should be framed with the
most vulnerable group in mind

614
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,580
gay people

615
00:43:11,780 --> 00:43:17,300
and he said this in 1986 1986
Can I just say something I love

616
00:43:17,330 --> 00:43:22,040
you schooling me i Okay, I'm
learning this is great.

617
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:29,510
So this is where the gays are
the new blacks talking point was

618
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:37,430
really birth Oh, so let's get
into gays are the Civil Rights

619
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:38,930
pioneer to it wasn't

620
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:42,500
the first time Breslin sexuality
came under attack sometimes from

621
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,500
his own people, including the
Democratic congressman from

622
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:46,070
Harlem,

623
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:51,500
there was the possibility of a
rumor being circulated by Adam

624
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:55,820
Clayton Powell, that Byard
Rustin and Martin Luther King,

625
00:43:56,060 --> 00:44:00,260
Jr. We're having in the fear
King press the bard to take a

626
00:44:00,260 --> 00:44:01,130
back seat.

627
00:44:03,410 --> 00:44:08,660
So that's got the back seat is
gonna be very I don't know if

628
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:14,900
that was a shoe trying to come
out. But so you have kings right

629
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:18,140
hand man and from Bay art
rustlers accounts. He really

630
00:44:18,140 --> 00:44:23,210
trained King. It wasn't just a
visor. He's the one that taught

631
00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:28,820
King about the Gandhi the whole
Gandhi thing, right? Um, and

632
00:44:30,110 --> 00:44:34,070
let's be clear, okay. So they
were being investigated, right?

633
00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:36,200
By J. Edgar

634
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,630
Hoover FBI was all over him as
well. No

635
00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:41,450
one knows. So now we're gonna
give him I'm gonna give you

636
00:44:41,450 --> 00:44:44,810
by the way J Edgar Hoover loved
his dresses.

637
00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:49,820
Not only that, but J Edgar
Hoover was allegedly a black man

638
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,080
we don't get to keep anybody
anymore. You guys taken all All

639
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,070
of our heroes.

640
00:45:01,370 --> 00:45:07,190
We don't want just kidding.
We're trying to bend over for

641
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,730
Well, I'm just you know, I'm
just going to look him up

642
00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:11,120
because

643
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,130
Washington Post I have the
article here Okay. Was J Edgar

644
00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:22,820
Hoover black barber a Reynolds
from the Washington Post says in

645
00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:26,960
some quarters the ratio of aroma
has have been whispered about as

646
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,160
widely as homosexuality.
Eastwood avoidance of the issue

647
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,540
as entry to the movies main
storyline. As Hoover was digging

648
00:45:35,570 --> 00:45:39,260
up dirt on President spying on
her and harassing civil rights

649
00:45:39,260 --> 00:45:43,610
leaders. He was crossed JC and
carrying on an affair with Clyde

650
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:50,600
Tolson, the FBI number two man.
It says McGann McGee said in

651
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,310
1950s, I was a younger This is
allegedly his cousin, in 19. In

652
00:45:55,310 --> 00:45:59,360
the late 1950s, I was a young
girl growing up in rural McComb,

653
00:45:59,660 --> 00:46:03,110
Mississippi, a story had been
passed down through several

654
00:46:03,110 --> 00:46:07,070
generations, that the land we
lived on was owned by the Homer

655
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:11,840
family. My grandmother, my
grandfather told me that that

656
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,190
this powerful man Edgar was his
second cousin, and was passing

657
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:19,850
for White. If we talked about
this, he was so powerful he

658
00:46:19,850 --> 00:46:24,170
could come help us killed. I
grew up terrified about all of

659
00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:29,090
this. But after, but later the
educator and researcher on Earth

660
00:46:29,090 --> 00:46:32,960
enough information by digging
through altered court records or

661
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,100
interviews with both white and
black Hoover's, and the help of

662
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:43,160
licenses on Jeanne Elise, to
substantiate the rumors that had

663
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:46,610
that she had her as a child that
Hoover was a relative.

664
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:51,140
And I have the Washington I'm
gonna I'm gonna put that in, in

665
00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:55,910
our show notes. Actually. That's
Oh, that's dynamite. Well, man.

666
00:46:56,180 --> 00:47:02,060
So now you have a black alleged
gay man investigating another

667
00:47:02,060 --> 00:47:09,050
black man. And so they brought
up so just to give that context.

668
00:47:09,740 --> 00:47:14,600
So they spoke about Mr. Adam
Clayton Powell. So all of these

669
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:20,900
figures come from one place.
Harlem, yes. They all stemmed

670
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:26,870
from Harlem because Harlem was
the hotbed of blackness ever

671
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:31,550
since the late 1920s. When you
had the black when you had the

672
00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:38,780
Harlem Renaissance Yes. But so
what just to go about br Ruston

673
00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:42,710
they are wrestling was not a
saint, and there was a reason

674
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:46,370
why they are resting had to step
away from the civil rights

675
00:47:46,370 --> 00:47:49,220
movement. They are arrested
arrested.

676
00:47:53,420 --> 00:47:58,010
Though I was extremely fond of
him, I knew that he was

677
00:47:58,010 --> 00:48:01,250
interested in meeting lots of
other people and occasionally

678
00:48:01,250 --> 00:48:04,580
they turned up to in my bed when
I wasn't expecting that

679
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:12,620
FBI field report. On January 21
1953, Ruston was arrested by the

680
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:16,040
police department in Pasadena,
California, as a suspected

681
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,110
sexual pervert. He was charged
with lewd vagrancy and sentenced

682
00:48:21,110 --> 00:48:23,060
to 60 days in the county jail.

683
00:48:28,850 --> 00:48:32,330
That was pretty fast news for
the past plus community that

684
00:48:32,330 --> 00:48:35,840
fired had been arrested in
Pasadena. All the other arrests

685
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,650
he had were on grounds for
principle that this was an

686
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:42,020
arrest where he knew he was
wrong. I don't mean morally

687
00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:45,050
wrong, because it was a sexual
encounter. I mean, it was stupid

688
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:48,080
to get arrested on the backseat
of a car with two guys in a

689
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,640
public place and he knew this.

690
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:53,270
Wow, I don't know why but for
some reason, this reminds me of

691
00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:54,200
George Michael.

692
00:48:57,020 --> 00:49:00,320
It's similar. Yeah. It's very,
very it's very which which

693
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,400
destroyed his career destroyed
him. That's my personal belief.

694
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:10,220
And when they arrested him being
arrested it make it you know,

695
00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:13,160
they could kind of gloss over
him being gay men said the lady

696
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,580
stated in the previous clips, he
didn't know a closet. So it

697
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:19,430
wasn't like, you know, people
didn't know he was gay. I didn't

698
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:22,700
know he was gay. Right? It was
very clear he was gay but the

699
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,820
fact that him getting arrested
made him look

700
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,190
you know, like a, like a deviant
like a

701
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:36,860
lack of deviant for me. Yeah, I
was gonna Yeah, exactly. So they

702
00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:39,740
brought up Mr. A Adam Clayton
Powell and Adam Clayton Powell

703
00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:46,640
was a seem to be a religious
person. He came from a religious

704
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:53,270
family that's to say that so
they make it seem like you know,

705
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:56,150
Adam Clayton Powell was coming
out to be out wrestling because

706
00:49:56,150 --> 00:50:00,050
he was gay. And he made that
thread about him and Kane being

707
00:50:00,050 --> 00:50:04,700
lovers because he was gay. The
thing about kink the real issue

708
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:07,700
about King and they are
wrestling was they are wrestling

709
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:14,420
with a communist. And they were
worried about the influence of

710
00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:18,170
the Communist Party on King and
the civil rights movement. And

711
00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:20,720
we're gonna that's gonna be a
shelf for a later date because

712
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:24,350
that's a whole nother rabbit
hole of communism fell within

713
00:50:24,350 --> 00:50:25,760
the black community, but well

714
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,000
and that also played out around
that same time then with J.

715
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,150
Edgar Hoover, you know, we had
and we had the Church Committee

716
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:33,500
and all kinds of crazy stuff.

717
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:39,320
Now you see why they reason not.
Now you see why they were really

718
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:45,170
investigating him. Hoover being
a gay black man. He should

719
00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:50,300
really empathize with them about
gayness or being black. But the

720
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:54,200
commie isn't as dark. That was
the real influence. And now

721
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,520
we're getting to the Boulais
part. Oh, Adam Clayton Powell

722
00:50:58,550 --> 00:51:04,520
was big Boulais out of Harlem.
And you got to see this Adam

723
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,810
Clayton Powell threat.

724
00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:09,410
Adam Clayton Powell, in one
blacks picketing Democratic

725
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:13,940
Convention. In fact, he went so
far as to warn King that if King

726
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:17,330
did not withdraw support from
that demonstration, he would go

727
00:51:17,330 --> 00:51:20,450
to the press and say there was a
sixth full affair going on

728
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:26,330
between me and King. Martin was
so terrified by this threat.

729
00:51:26,780 --> 00:51:32,930
Wow. It was about the Democratic
Convention course. Not them

730
00:51:32,930 --> 00:51:36,680
being gay. He didn't want them
protest in the Democratic

731
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,880
Convention. That's why I say
Adam Clayton Powell was Boulais.

732
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:43,190
And you're gonna start this
training for people who

733
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:47,330
are new Boulais is and we've
discussed this, I think as far

734
00:51:47,330 --> 00:51:51,020
back as Episode One, black
Illuminati, easiest way to

735
00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:53,900
describe it. It's not completely
accurate, but it gives you the

736
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,970
general idea. That's correct.

737
00:51:56,270 --> 00:51:59,630
Yeah, this the black elites are
the Boulais aren't, you know,

738
00:51:59,990 --> 00:52:05,030
like I said, they're the black
wing of the Illuminati or, or

739
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:09,440
the protectors or the
Illuminati. So, yeah, Adam

740
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,130
Clayton Powell have political
motives. And what you're seeing

741
00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:18,890
here is two divides of people.
Black groups that were backed by

742
00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:24,230
two different pools of money.
The best way I can explain that

743
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:27,650
in modern day times, it's like
Black Lives Matter on one side,

744
00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:33,710
being backed by a democratic
liberal agenda, correct? Yeah.

745
00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:38,090
Money. And then you have, I
don't know if it's fair, but I'm

746
00:52:38,090 --> 00:52:41,720
just as an example, you have
somebody say, like, as Candace

747
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:47,480
Owens being backed by
conservative talking points,

748
00:52:47,570 --> 00:52:51,410
gotcha. Or motors, this is what
you have. And this is this goes

749
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:56,600
all the way back to Harlem.
Because Harlem was the the, you

750
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,140
know, the ground zero for
blackness, so that you had these

751
00:53:00,140 --> 00:53:06,380
two powers fighting for control
of it. So just to give you

752
00:53:06,380 --> 00:53:10,070
context of who Adam Clayton
Powell is, I have a short clip

753
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,530
of Adam Clayton Powell
explaining black power.

754
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:20,360
That thing again, means me gonna
walk side by side with you walk

755
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:26,000
through you're gonna be with
dignity and integrity. We don't

756
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,020
want any more than you have. And
we're not gonna accept any less

757
00:53:30,020 --> 00:53:31,850
than you have at back.

758
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:37,940
Where was this? Where to? Where
did you say this?

759
00:53:37,970 --> 00:53:41,780
Do you know, this was 1968. He
was giving a speech, I believe

760
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:46,580
in California. Okay. So if you
hear if you listen to him

761
00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:50,330
closely, he brought the word
dignity twice. So what you're

762
00:53:50,330 --> 00:53:54,230
hearing is like really the
conservative wing, he was more

763
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:57,770
on the conservative side of
things. And when you have people

764
00:53:57,770 --> 00:54:02,450
like BRST, who was clearly on
the liberal side of things, you

765
00:54:02,450 --> 00:54:10,910
can hear where I'm where these
two divots happen. So we have to

766
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:15,410
go back to Harlem now, because
Adam Clayton Powell, came out of

767
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,090
the biggest church in Harlem at
the time, and they are rusting

768
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:27,020
cut his teeth, and Harlem at the
same time, so these two people

769
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,690
were very aware of each other.
So just to give a background,

770
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:36,380
it's a little long, it's not
very cologne. But let's listen

771
00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:38,510
to queer in Harlem.

772
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:42,800
Hey, all intellectual aka Lexa
Joan day of intellectual media,

773
00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:48,320
and this is Two Minute history.
So let's talk about black

774
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,140
queerness. During the Harlem
Renaissance, as Henry Louis

775
00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:55,190
Gates put it, Harlem was surely
as gay as it was black queer

776
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:58,430
identities were relatively
numerous. In fact, transgender

777
00:54:58,430 --> 00:55:01,250
people were common among the
working class group of Harlem

778
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,950
there was an event called the
Hamilton lodge ball which

779
00:55:03,950 --> 00:55:07,430
delighted 1000s of spectators
both white and black alike.

780
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,100
Although the black trans
community was a definite target

781
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:13,700
of Irish cops, they still dare
to exist. prominent writers like

782
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:17,660
Langston Hughes, Claude McKay
and Kelsey Cullen were queer.

783
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:21,140
Many shelled surreptitious same
sex desire in their work, but

784
00:55:21,140 --> 00:55:23,900
due to their elite status in the
company they kept, they

785
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:27,230
displayed traditional gender and
sexual identities in public

786
00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:30,170
homosexuality was a frequent
theme and counts a Collins's

787
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:32,870
work and there are even
surviving love letters he wrote

788
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:36,320
to men several jazz musicians
who regularly played in Harlem

789
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,140
clubs had same sex
relationships, including Ethel

790
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:42,500
Waters, who was bisexual. Gladys
Bentley was a regular Harlem

791
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:45,500
performer who often wore men's
clothes and flirted with the

792
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:49,070
women in the audience. Madam CJ
Walker's daughter, a prominent

793
00:55:49,070 --> 00:55:52,730
Harlem socialite, was known to
uninvite people from her pop and

794
00:55:52,730 --> 00:55:56,840
parties if they dared speak out
against LGBT people. She loved

795
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,470
to surround herself with black
lesbians and gays, noncognitive

796
00:56:00,470 --> 00:56:03,380
black queerness may not have
been accepted everywhere. But

797
00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:07,160
the population of black queers
in Harlem in the 1920s tells the

798
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,060
rational person that black
sexuality has been and will

799
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:15,320
continue to be multifaceted.
Black queerness isn't some

800
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,970
conspiratorial agenda, nor is it
new. When shown freedom or

801
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:23,810
tolerance, black queers will
reveal themselves in greater

802
00:56:23,810 --> 00:56:24,380
numbers.

803
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:31,040
I'll point out there that
everyone she mentioned, was an

804
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,580
entertainer or an entertainer or
in the arts, and I think that

805
00:56:34,580 --> 00:56:40,070
may have a little bit more to do
with queerness or recognition of

806
00:56:40,070 --> 00:56:44,000
self in those particular
communities where it's artistic.

807
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:45,860
And I think that's historically

808
00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:49,460
true. Yes, and that Well,
according to John Legend,

809
00:56:52,340 --> 00:56:55,460
you can't be creative if you're
not a Democrat. That's exactly

810
00:56:55,460 --> 00:57:00,920
right. Right. Right. So, man,
yeah, you making me want to play

811
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,680
that clip? Now? You know, it's
like, Yeah, hold on a second, I

812
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,630
get to play a clip here. Listen
to John Legend.

813
00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:10,550
Well, we've always been liberal
musicians, actors, it's almost

814
00:57:10,550 --> 00:57:15,170
by disposition. We deal with the
gay and lesbian community all

815
00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:17,870
the time. So we're going to feel
like, they should have the right

816
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:22,070
to get married, just like we do.
We deal with people of all

817
00:57:22,070 --> 00:57:25,400
colors in all races, and we
traveled to different countries

818
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,860
all the time to perform. So
we're going to have a more

819
00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:32,270
global view and a more inclusive
view. It's almost by nature, and

820
00:57:32,270 --> 00:57:38,150
by and by a circumstance of the
things that we do. So if America

821
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:42,890
doesn't want to consume the art
of people who are liberal

822
00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:45,350
minded, there's not going to be
a lot of art for them to

823
00:57:45,350 --> 00:57:49,010
consume, as simple as that.
Because the best artists, most

824
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:52,340
of them are liberal, sorry.
There are some country artists,

825
00:57:52,340 --> 00:57:55,100
I know they're conservative. I
have a lot of country artists

826
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:57,680
that have friends. And believe
me, some of them are liberal,

827
00:57:57,710 --> 00:58:00,380
but they don't make a big deal
out of it, because they know, it

828
00:58:00,380 --> 00:58:03,860
will alienate their base. I'm
telling you, most creative

829
00:58:03,860 --> 00:58:05,000
people are liberal.

830
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,100
And when John Legend says it,
you know, it's

831
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:12,770
true. So you have to ask, what
was really the Harlem

832
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:18,500
Renaissance are really about,
according to Mr. Henry Louis

833
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:21,920
Gates, Jr. I know you're
familiar with him, of course, he

834
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,450
says, and in his essay in 1993,
essay, the black man's burden

835
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,420
that the hall, the Harlem
Renaissance was surely as gay as

836
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:37,370
it was black. as gay as it was
black,

837
00:58:37,460 --> 00:58:40,250
all right, well, but the
Renaissance, the Renaissance was

838
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,110
an artistic movement,

839
00:58:42,290 --> 00:58:46,670
correct? Yes. Okay. All right.
So the, so the powers that be

840
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:51,200
understood. So when we talk
about poetry, poetry at the time

841
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,220
was very influential. And you
know, in those times, music as

842
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:59,120
well, so they understood and as
they understand now, it's, I'm

843
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:06,110
trying to get people to really
notice that it's the same

844
00:59:06,110 --> 00:59:11,210
mindset. Now you have
conservatives on one side, which

845
00:59:11,210 --> 00:59:14,540
are about business and
controlling the business aspect.

846
00:59:14,570 --> 00:59:17,750
And then you have liberals on
the other side about controlling

847
00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:22,430
art and pushing their agendas
through, you know,

848
00:59:23,420 --> 00:59:27,740
through art and for the, for the
few people, because the ratings

849
00:59:27,740 --> 00:59:32,480
were atrocious, who saw the
Emmys last night that was

850
00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:37,490
produced and broadcast on Fox.
So of course, they have to put

851
00:59:37,490 --> 00:59:40,760
in, you know, something they
want to promote. And they had

852
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Tim Allen, who, whose show last
man standing was canceled on I

853
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,870
want to say ABC, that he was
then picked up by Fox. They made

854
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:53,900
him come out and you could see
it, it was the most

855
00:59:53,930 --> 00:59:58,400
uncomfortable moment. One of the
most uncomfortable moments

856
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,700
during the entire show. He's
standing there as a known

857
01:00:01,700 --> 01:00:06,890
conservative in this liberal
den. And it was Yeah, I mean, it

858
01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:10,280
was, you could see it right
there. What was going on? He was

859
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,290
a fish out of water on his own
network.

860
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:21,830
And you know, that was May maybe
they were trying to, you know,

861
01:00:22,670 --> 01:00:25,910
humiliate him in a way. Who
knows? I mean, that's how I

862
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:32,000
receive it as how you're telling
you. Oh, so we brought up a key

863
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:38,570
figure. And this whole Harlem
Renaissance was Mr. Allen, Leroy

864
01:00:38,570 --> 01:00:44,150
Locke. So that's the guy are
previously mentioned as being

865
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:48,740
the first black Rhodes Scholar.
Adam, can you tell me a little

866
01:00:48,740 --> 01:00:51,020
thing, anything about the Rhodes
Scholars?

867
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:58,250
Well, the Rhodes Scholarship to
me is something that elite kids

868
01:00:58,250 --> 01:01:03,200
get the ones that are being
prepped to become leaders. If

869
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,990
you look at who's Rhodes
Scholar, famously, of course,

870
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:12,320
Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, but
there's I have a feeling that

871
01:01:12,350 --> 01:01:21,740
our current probably liberal
candidates, I want to say I

872
01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:24,830
can't I know one of them is, at
least one of them's a Rhodes,

873
01:01:24,860 --> 01:01:28,520
Cory Booker, I think as a Rhodes
Scholar, so yes, it's kind of an

874
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,560
elitist launching platform.

875
01:01:30,740 --> 01:01:32,990
So as liberal leaning, is what
you were saying. I

876
01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:36,290
would say that that's the
indication says yes.

877
01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:41,570
Okay, so let's get into Oxford
University Press. Who was Alain

878
01:01:41,570 --> 01:01:42,020
Locke?

879
01:01:42,050 --> 01:01:44,660
Well, Alain Locke was a
philosopher. He was born in

880
01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:49,070
1880s. And he taught at Howard
University. He was the first

881
01:01:49,730 --> 01:01:53,030
black person to get a PhD in
philosophy from Harvard

882
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:56,750
University. He was also the
first African American Rhodes

883
01:01:56,750 --> 01:02:00,440
Scholar to Oxford. But the most
important thing is that he's

884
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,070
often considered the godfather
of the Harlem Renaissance, the

885
01:02:04,070 --> 01:02:08,300
Black Arts Movement of the 1920s
with people like Langston

886
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:15,020
Hughes, Zora Neale Hurston,
Claude McKay, a really a bevy of

887
01:02:15,050 --> 01:02:19,400
artists and writers who emerged
for the first time with the idea

888
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,510
that you could write about the
black experience creatively and

889
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:27,800
be rewarded for it. And he was a
self organized cultural

890
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,300
producer, who created the
opportunities for these artists.

891
01:02:32,570 --> 01:02:35,690
And he came up with this concept
of the new Negro he was already

892
01:02:35,690 --> 01:02:40,040
around, but he interpreted as
that of being the quintessential

893
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:45,590
American artists who mined the
black experience, folklore, the

894
01:02:45,590 --> 01:02:50,240
spirituals and turn that into
high art. So he was really a

895
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,910
person who brought the
interpretive context for black

896
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:59,210
artists to be appreciated,
really, for the first time.

897
01:03:01,370 --> 01:03:06,740
So that's Mr. Allen lop. So, he
was very liberal leaning, and I

898
01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:11,030
have a quote from him. It says
lot wrote in Oxford, wrote from

899
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:16,160
Oxford in 1910, that the primary
aim and obligation of a Rhodes

900
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,960
Scholar is to acquire at Oxford
and abroad gently a liberal

901
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,180
education and to continue
subsequently, the road mission

902
01:03:26,270 --> 01:03:30,710
of international understanding
throughout life in his own

903
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:35,390
country. Therefore, for once
more it should be, it should

904
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:38,840
prove impossible for nations to
understand one another as

905
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,370
nations then they must learn to
tolerate tolerate each other as

906
01:03:43,370 --> 01:03:46,460
individuals. So he was a
globalist? Well, from

907
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,060
the book of knowledge,
Wikipedia, I read verbatim the

908
01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:53,540
scholarships were founded for
two reasons to promote unity

909
01:03:53,540 --> 01:03:57,260
within the British Empire, and
to strengthen diplomatic ties

910
01:03:57,260 --> 01:04:02,120
between Britain and the United
States of America. And the US

911
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,890
their second one. Rhodes also
bequeath scholarships to German

912
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:10,280
students in the hope that a good
understanding between England

913
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,070
Germany and the United States of
America will secure the peace of

914
01:04:13,070 --> 01:04:17,630
the world of course, they went
on to all fight each other, just

915
01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:19,100
10 years later, but Okay,

916
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,300
so you have this guy, he becomes
a Rhodes Scholar, and he finds

917
01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:27,860
himself in Harlem putting
together this conglomerate of

918
01:04:28,220 --> 01:04:33,740
black artists, which was called
the talented 10th. And this is

919
01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:39,320
where we're gonna head now is
the mind state of two well known

920
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:47,450
black men. We spoke about one W
EB Dubois and he was pro town

921
01:04:47,450 --> 01:04:51,290
the 10. And what he thought was
if you elevate the top 10% of

922
01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:55,220
black people, then they will
uplift the black race in that

923
01:04:55,220 --> 01:05:03,800
way. That was oppositely a See,
Mr. Booker T. Washington, Booker

924
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,330
T. Washington believe that you
built from the ground up, you

925
01:05:08,330 --> 01:05:13,640
know, you built a working class
of black people in trades and

926
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,580
things of that nature and the
USI. One was thinking top down

927
01:05:16,580 --> 01:05:20,720
and one was thinking bottom up,
just over super oversimplify two

928
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,260
sides of the same coin, really
two sides of the same coin. So

929
01:05:24,260 --> 01:05:28,640
let's listen to W. E. Dubois.
Robbery with Bush, Booker T

930
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,180
Washington.

931
01:05:38,450 --> 01:05:41,690
One of the first moments where
Dubois comes onto the national

932
01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:48,230
stage is the brewing controversy
between his ideas about racial

933
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:52,130
progress and how to move the
race for and the leading African

934
01:05:52,130 --> 01:05:55,580
American figure of that time
period, the late 19th and early

935
01:05:55,580 --> 01:06:00,770
20th century Booker T.
Washington. In the beginning,

936
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,060
they agreed on many points about
the importance of education and

937
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:08,150
moving the race forward. It
turns out though, that because

938
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:12,380
DuBois was northern born and had
access to some of the best

939
01:06:12,380 --> 01:06:15,320
schools in New England, and
really was encouraged to think

940
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,650
broadly, it's been part of his
elite graduate education being

941
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:23,450
trained in Berlin working with
Max Faber, by contrast to Booker

942
01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:26,990
T. Washington, who was self
educated, a very gifted and

943
01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:32,690
talented man, but he was born as
a slave. That fundamental

944
01:06:32,690 --> 01:06:36,140
difference certainly shaped
their sense of change over time.

945
01:06:36,410 --> 01:06:39,440
The life that Booker T
Washington, eventually led as

946
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:44,390
the leading most recognized
figure of African American

947
01:06:44,540 --> 01:06:48,320
society meant that his
expectations for what the White

948
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,380
Race was willing to do on behalf
of black people were very

949
01:06:51,380 --> 01:06:54,530
different than at the boys, you
could say DuBois was a utopian

950
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,580
idealist in some respects, and
Booker T. Washington was a

951
01:06:58,580 --> 01:07:02,750
pragmatist, better known as an
accommodationist. And so it set

952
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:06,470
up an ongoing debate.
Eventually, Booker T

953
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:11,570
Washington's program sustained
the ethos of Jim Crow America

954
01:07:11,630 --> 01:07:14,270
because it was about black
people working but on white

955
01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:17,390
people's terms, it was about a
lack of political

956
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,420
enfranchisement because black
people were subjected to poll

957
01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:24,260
taxes and literacy tests and the
inability to vote. And it was

958
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:27,590
ultimately about a form of
second class citizenship that

959
01:07:27,590 --> 01:07:33,440
was segregated America. In this
regard, Dubois did see that real

960
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,890
change, fundamental change,
living up to the real promises

961
01:07:36,890 --> 01:07:40,970
of racial democracy in America,
dependent upon agitation

962
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,820
dependent upon a graph for
power.

963
01:07:45,350 --> 01:07:50,540
Okay, so So what you're hearing
here is the two different

964
01:07:50,540 --> 01:07:55,010
ideologies that was bit what's
best for black people to

965
01:07:55,490 --> 01:08:03,560
achieve. No success in America.
The problem with that is, and

966
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:08,810
there's always a problem. We've
already identified W Ed W. E. B.

967
01:08:08,810 --> 01:08:12,590
Dubois came from the same
school, as Adam Locke, if I'm

968
01:08:12,590 --> 01:08:18,560
not mistaken, W EB DuBois was
the first graduate black

969
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:25,250
graduate from Harvard. So he was
there. That's the one side the

970
01:08:25,250 --> 01:08:30,140
liberal thinking and while we
said Alan law was funded by was

971
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:34,400
funded by Rhodes Scholar money
and liberal, liberal was

972
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,680
thinking, Well, Mr. Booker T.
Washington, on the other hand,

973
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:46,010
he was also funded. And let me
just give you a list of who

974
01:08:46,010 --> 01:08:55,070
funded Mr. Booker T. Washington.
Here we go. Yeah. For one sec

975
01:08:55,070 --> 01:09:02,570
here. Here. Okay. Mr. Booker T.
Washington's wealthy friends

976
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,920
Soros No

977
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:10,640
it's bigger than that. Oh, no.
Andrew Carnegie Carnegie.

978
01:09:10,670 --> 01:09:14,180
Wow. I'll pre Soros obviously
but wow. Yeah, Carnegie. Sure.

979
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:15,140
Oh,

980
01:09:15,170 --> 01:09:19,640
William H. Taft. Span John D.
Rockefeller.

981
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Yeah. The sorrows of their day.

982
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:29,480
So much. So. Ah, I think let's
see. Oh, yes, John D.

983
01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:34,610
Rockefeller. So these guys were
backing the black schools in the

984
01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:39,440
south so much so John D.
Rockefeller, in 1902. His

985
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:43,970
father, father and son, greener
article here, father son instead

986
01:09:43,970 --> 01:09:48,290
of a general education board to
sis southern black schools. By

987
01:09:48,290 --> 01:09:51,740
the end of the first first
decade, the boy had donated more

988
01:09:51,740 --> 01:09:54,080
than 33 million

989
01:09:54,980 --> 01:09:56,330
naira it is the magic number

990
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,910
towards furthering the goals of
blackness. Education. And by

991
01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:07,040
1921, they had donated an
additional $96 million for

992
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:07,640
education,

993
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,240
which is probably three, three
quarters of a billion dollars

994
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,000
today, I'd have to look at what
it is, but it's a lot of money.

995
01:10:14,270 --> 01:10:14,660
That's

996
01:10:14,660 --> 01:10:18,350
a lot of money. The reason why
you had newly black people,

997
01:10:18,350 --> 01:10:25,640
newly freed black people. And
you had to have some kind of

998
01:10:25,670 --> 01:10:29,360
school of thought to
indoctrinate them to is what I

999
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,920
believe, which is the goal of
the Illuminati. So you have to

1000
01:10:33,950 --> 01:10:39,680
highly funded people fighting
for the souls of average black

1001
01:10:39,710 --> 01:10:40,640
average black people

1002
01:10:40,670 --> 01:10:45,500
and coming from opposite sides
of the political spectrum. Yes.

1003
01:10:45,980 --> 01:10:49,190
Which is all if you want to call
them elite, Illuminati,

1004
01:10:49,190 --> 01:10:53,000
whatever, the term you want to
call, but that's, that's where

1005
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,700
the money was happening. And the
ground zero of the battle was

1006
01:10:55,700 --> 01:11:01,370
Harlem. Oh, the reason why I
bring this up is just to say

1007
01:11:01,370 --> 01:11:06,680
that it's the same shit today.
It's the same crap today,

1008
01:11:06,710 --> 01:11:11,300
except it's no longer Harlem.
It's Twitter. The internet is

1009
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:13,190
the editor. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

1010
01:11:13,220 --> 01:11:21,260
it's the internet. And on one
side, you have and I don't I

1011
01:11:21,260 --> 01:11:24,560
heard you in John having an
interesting conversation on the

1012
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:30,320
show. Maybe two shows ago, a
last show how the or elite are

1013
01:11:30,350 --> 01:11:35,540
into weird. I don't know I'm
getting ahead of myself. I'm

1014
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:39,170
getting ahead of myself. I don't
stop right there. Oh, okay. So

1015
01:11:39,170 --> 01:11:45,260
now we gotta go back to an old
clip. Mr. Charlemagne talks

1016
01:11:45,260 --> 01:11:46,370
about the Illuminati,

1017
01:11:46,430 --> 01:11:48,770
okay, Charlemagne to God.

1018
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,530
And you notice the last thing
I'll say, when you look up the

1019
01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:58,880
word Illuminati to all it means
is the enlightened ones. That's

1020
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,580
all the definition of Illuminati
means it means the enlightened

1021
01:12:01,580 --> 01:12:04,430
people of our society. So these
are the people that are

1022
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:08,300
enlightened What's wrong with
being enlightened? You know what

1023
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:10,970
I'm saying? Like what's wrong
with having knowledge having

1024
01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:12,770
wisdom and understanding what's
wrong with just being an

1025
01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:15,050
enlightened is the thing in the
moment it and that's what it is.

1026
01:12:15,380 --> 01:12:17,300
The enlightened people Yes, I
want to be want to be

1027
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:19,490
enlightened people. That's what
I read books for to try to be

1028
01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:23,270
one of the highly enlightened
people in my society, like, yes,

1029
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:25,100
every day, I strive for
knowledge, don't want to be a

1030
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:29,780
better person, like what's wrong
with being enlightened like? So.

1031
01:12:29,930 --> 01:12:33,170
So basically, on the record,
Charlemagne is saying that he

1032
01:12:33,170 --> 01:12:34,880
wants to be in the Illuminati.

1033
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:38,240
If there wasn't Illuminati, and
it is the enlightened people,

1034
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,540
why wouldn't I be? Why wouldn't
I want to be? Why wouldn't? Why

1035
01:12:41,540 --> 01:12:44,600
wouldn't I want to be? Well all
acknowledges that? Why wouldn't

1036
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,290
I want to know the world
secrets? Why wouldn't? Why

1037
01:12:48,290 --> 01:12:48,560
wouldn't?

1038
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,260
Yes, yeah, that's,

1039
01:12:51,290 --> 01:12:54,080
that's when we played early on
episode number two, I think.

1040
01:12:54,290 --> 01:12:58,040
Yes. So to explain to you how
people get caught up in the so

1041
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,550
called Illuminati and I don't
think Charlemagne will ever make

1042
01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:06,290
it to the actual, I mean,
because we know that's a very

1043
01:13:06,290 --> 01:13:11,060
exclusive club, but you became
become a talking head for the

1044
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:14,090
Illuminati. And like, and like
you said, Well, I'll play that

1045
01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:18,200
clip. To make just give context
to what you said previously,

1046
01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:22,760
about as the same crap going on
today. Exactly. Those people

1047
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,240
thought, hey, why, I mean, I'm
getting access to knowledge

1048
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,860
here. When you talk about guys
like Carnegie right? Yeah,

1049
01:13:30,890 --> 01:13:33,500
you're finding out about the
ways of the world especially if

1050
01:13:33,500 --> 01:13:36,350
you've never been back in those
days no internet, you're

1051
01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:39,350
learning about how the finances
work how the political system

1052
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:42,530
works. Yeah, it would seem like
a book is open right in front of

1053
01:13:42,530 --> 01:13:43,520
your eyes. No kidding.

1054
01:13:44,030 --> 01:13:49,220
Can we agree that there was men
were Illuminati? I think I think

1055
01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:54,710
in my mind they are the
Carnegie's in the those people

1056
01:13:54,710 --> 01:14:00,260
they put into who the man who
built America you have some

1057
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:02,150
that may have been reptiles as
well.

1058
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,060
And that's why I felt a low to
no agenda show right there. You

1059
01:14:08,060 --> 01:14:16,010
always get me at the reptile I'm
just saying, but but there is

1060
01:14:16,340 --> 01:14:24,860
the Illuminati do get their
thought process from one main

1061
01:14:24,860 --> 01:14:28,580
source or their it their
religious if you want to call

1062
01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:33,170
that beliefs from one main
source, that being Egypt?

1063
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,760
Yes, that's where they get the
the pyramids and, you know, a

1064
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,650
lot of symbolism that comes from
Egypt, the obelisks, all of it.

1065
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,540
Yes. And one of the main symbols
for the Boulais is the Sphinx.

1066
01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:54,650
Egypt again, Egypt again, but
let's not believe me about the

1067
01:14:54,680 --> 01:15:02,090
Asia thing. We have a sad
Sadhguru he's a Big Time Indian

1068
01:15:02,090 --> 01:15:07,490
philosopher and he speaks on the
Illuminati decoded

1069
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:14,900
in Europe. Secret schools were
romantic stuff. Even people who

1070
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:21,050
are now famous like, like so
Kratos, or a Aristotle and these

1071
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:26,960
people, they were also part of
the secret schools. Why would I

1072
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:32,360
make my school secret? Because
society is in a mode of

1073
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,650
persecution of anything that
doesn't it does not agree with

1074
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,300
persecution. Only this
persecution of school becomes a

1075
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:47,750
secret school, isn't it? So. So
secret school traditions are so

1076
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:53,780
much in Europe, because the
dogmatic religious beliefs were

1077
01:15:53,780 --> 01:15:57,440
really suppressing anything,
anything that they think is

1078
01:15:57,440 --> 01:16:01,940
gathering 10 people, they will
demolish it, they will kill

1079
01:16:01,940 --> 01:16:06,650
them. So they ran secret schools
in this whatever you are

1080
01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:11,060
referring to as Illuminati, and
later on, it transformed itself

1081
01:16:11,090 --> 01:16:16,520
into Freemasons. Some history, I
cannot confirm this, some books

1082
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,240
have been written as to how
Freemasonry were started by the

1083
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,370
Indian Masons who went to Egypt.

1084
01:16:23,330 --> 01:16:27,140
Yeah, and this is you know, look
at the Freemasonry symbolism all

1085
01:16:27,140 --> 01:16:34,970
very similar. Number 33 is a big
number in the in Freemasonry a

1086
01:16:34,970 --> 01:16:37,610
lot of triangles Yeah, totally.

1087
01:16:38,030 --> 01:16:45,770
Yeah the geometry even I a horse
so all that leads to Egyptian

1088
01:16:45,770 --> 01:16:50,030
beliefs. So even I'm just I'm
pretty sure you know this, but

1089
01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:53,150
the listeners may not know this,
even the city of Washington DC

1090
01:16:53,180 --> 01:16:57,860
Oh, it's completely Egyptian
iced. Yes. And let's listen to

1091
01:16:58,340 --> 01:17:02,300
this was put together by I
couldn't catch your name. But

1092
01:17:02,660 --> 01:17:05,750
all the facts that she stayed I
have already validated but I

1093
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:08,930
couldn't find this clip anywhere
other than this source that

1094
01:17:08,930 --> 01:17:12,590
explains the Egyptian links to
DC.

1095
01:17:13,190 --> 01:17:18,440
The Washington Monument. This
breathtaking tower stands 555

1096
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:22,940
feet high on the National Mall
and attracts over 800,000

1097
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:28,850
tourists each year. It's
structured as an obelisk, also

1098
01:17:28,850 --> 01:17:32,210
known as tickets a prominent
architecture of the ancient

1099
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,810
Egyptians. These are blessings
were placed in pairs at the

1100
01:17:35,810 --> 01:17:41,900
entrances of Egyptian temples.
The Blessed symbolizes the sun

1101
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:45,500
god raw, one of the most
prominent and highly worship

1102
01:17:45,530 --> 01:17:49,190
Egyptian gods. Pharaohs had
these monuments built for them

1103
01:17:49,190 --> 01:17:53,600
so that they would always be
remembered. In the same manner.

1104
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:57,350
This monument was built in
dedication to America's first

1105
01:17:57,350 --> 01:18:01,970
president, George Washington,
George Washington was a

1106
01:18:01,970 --> 01:18:05,960
Freemason, part of an
international group supposedly

1107
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:10,160
established for mutual help and
fellowship, often holding

1108
01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:15,320
elaborate and secret ceremonies.
Masonic historians have linked

1109
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:19,370
Freemasonry to the values of
ancient Egypt and the Masonic

1110
01:18:19,370 --> 01:18:25,040
symbols in DC clearly show
Egyptian influence. The Scottish

1111
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,420
Rite Temple is desease main sign
of Freemasonry and even more so,

1112
01:18:29,630 --> 01:18:34,130
Egyptian influence. The entrance
is guarded by two sphinx on each

1113
01:18:34,130 --> 01:18:38,660
side, statues of a Sphinx, a
mythical creature were often

1114
01:18:38,660 --> 01:18:42,800
built to guard important areas
such as tombs and temples in

1115
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,550
Egypt.

1116
01:18:44,990 --> 01:18:48,620
Yes, yeah, there's a lot more
than I mean, there's entire

1117
01:18:48,620 --> 01:18:51,740
books and movies have been
written and shot about this, you

1118
01:18:51,740 --> 01:18:54,650
know, there's the Masonic the
just the way the streets are

1119
01:18:54,650 --> 01:18:56,780
laid out. There's a lot of that
in DC.

1120
01:18:58,070 --> 01:19:02,660
Yes, and as she said, The Sphinx
were made to guard things. And

1121
01:19:02,660 --> 01:19:08,120
this is the thought is that the
Boulais is to meet the guardians

1122
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:13,340
of the kings. So basically,
they're the protecting class of

1123
01:19:13,340 --> 01:19:18,290
their white rulers, against your
stand against black people.

1124
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:25,070
Well, they stand they stand as a
as a hedge between them. So that

1125
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:28,490
I mean, that's, you know, that
I'm, like I said the word blue,

1126
01:19:28,490 --> 01:19:31,190
they actually means advisors to
the king. And that's why they

1127
01:19:31,190 --> 01:19:36,260
chose this the symbolism of the
Sphinx, right? Um, I did gloss

1128
01:19:36,260 --> 01:19:40,250
over one tidbit fact, just to go
back and give you something

1129
01:19:40,250 --> 01:19:43,520
about the so we know WEB DuBois
and I know I'm getting kind of

1130
01:19:43,550 --> 01:19:48,260
out of order here, but I had to
share this fact. So we know web

1131
01:19:48,260 --> 01:19:56,090
Boyce was a member of the NAACP,
and NAACP was really started and

1132
01:19:56,090 --> 01:20:00,140
ran by white people. We
established that on a pre Be a

1133
01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:06,020
show. Yeah. So one of those
white founders was Joe a spin

1134
01:20:06,020 --> 01:20:11,870
guard. Have you ever heard of
him? I have not. Okay. Mr. Joe

1135
01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:15,380
II spin guard was the first
chairman of the board of

1136
01:20:15,380 --> 01:20:20,030
directors of the NAACP and held
that position for many years.

1137
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:24,590
The Covenant Spingarn Medal is
given yearly by the NAACP and

1138
01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:30,920
was established in 1914. That
sounds all good right? Only one

1139
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,270
problem. Mr. spearing bar was a
spy for the United States, army

1140
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:43,400
groups and ope. Yes, you had the
head of this NAACP ran by known

1141
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:48,110
spy. He was hired in May of
1980. And given the rank of

1142
01:20:48,110 --> 01:20:52,880
Major in the Military
Intelligence Division, Spingarn

1143
01:20:52,910 --> 01:20:57,110
ran a small unit undercover
agents who were looking for

1144
01:20:57,110 --> 01:21:03,740
proof of service subversion. He
opened over 100,000 pieces of

1145
01:21:03,740 --> 01:21:10,370
mail a week monitoring black
publications. Wow. So that just

1146
01:21:10,370 --> 01:21:13,580
gives you an idea who's all
really over these two groups

1147
01:21:13,580 --> 01:21:18,650
that we think are for us. And
nobody really wants to deviate

1148
01:21:18,650 --> 01:21:24,140
from that. But just going back
to so that goes to show you that

1149
01:21:24,410 --> 01:21:27,860
all the groups established for
Well, not all let's not say all

1150
01:21:27,860 --> 01:21:33,890
anything. Naughty 5% of Black
groups

1151
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:36,410
have been established by white
people.

1152
01:21:36,890 --> 01:21:40,430
Yes. And not white people with
good intentions either.

1153
01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:40,850
No,

1154
01:21:40,910 --> 01:21:43,970
it was it was control mechanism,
which is not any different from

1155
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,540
any other group we've pointed
out for every other group, but

1156
01:21:47,540 --> 01:21:51,740
I'm dismissed with specific
specifically speaking what

1157
01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:57,020
affects the group I'm part of.
So we've established that the

1158
01:21:57,020 --> 01:22:02,930
Illuminati their anti Egyptology
would they build a whole city

1159
01:22:03,050 --> 01:22:09,710
than Washington DC based off of
Egyptian premise premises. Less

1160
01:22:09,710 --> 01:22:12,170
listen to the Egyptian DC part
two,

1161
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:16,250
on 16th Street where the
Scottish Rite temple is located.

1162
01:22:16,490 --> 01:22:19,460
There are more temples and
churches than any other streets

1163
01:22:19,490 --> 01:22:23,900
on Earth. Ancient Egypt was one
of the most spiritual places in

1164
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:27,830
the world. The designers of DC
were trying to duplicate the

1165
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:32,780
energy found in Egypt. walk a
few blocks down and there is

1166
01:22:32,780 --> 01:22:36,740
Meridian Hill Park, and the
Egyptian influences are very

1167
01:22:36,740 --> 01:22:41,240
clear. Within the park, there is
a large cascading waterfall, the

1168
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,720
number 13 The number of steps
that line the waterfall

1169
01:22:44,780 --> 01:22:47,990
represents a spiritual
awakening. Looking at the

1170
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:52,340
waterfall from above, you can
see the ONC shape is created. It

1171
01:22:52,340 --> 01:22:56,180
is a symbol for life and can be
seen and Egyptian art and

1172
01:22:56,180 --> 01:23:02,300
architecture. The Potomac River
acts as the Nile River, west of

1173
01:23:02,300 --> 01:23:05,300
the Potomac River is the
Arlington Cemetery, where

1174
01:23:05,300 --> 01:23:08,450
dignitaries, officials and
presidents have been buried.

1175
01:23:08,690 --> 01:23:12,350
Likewise, the west bank of the
Nile River is the Valley of the

1176
01:23:12,350 --> 01:23:17,090
Kings. Note that none of this is
a coincidence, from the

1177
01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:20,810
architecture in the statues to
the exact layout of Washington,

1178
01:23:20,810 --> 01:23:25,370
DC. Everything was built off of
the influence of anxious Egypt,

1179
01:23:25,730 --> 01:23:29,360
planned out to replicate the
amount of power and energy that

1180
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,000
the Egyptians built an empire
out of

1181
01:23:32,690 --> 01:23:35,750
love how you've just taken me
into a Dan Brown novel. This is

1182
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:37,880
great. I love it. That's good.

1183
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:45,170
So back to the conversation you
and John were having. And you

1184
01:23:45,230 --> 01:23:51,020
You guys made mention that the
elite are some of the lead are

1185
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:55,010
into weird sexual practices. Is
that Yeah,

1186
01:23:55,010 --> 01:23:58,760
well, I think that was more
based off of our own experience

1187
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:04,010
having certainly when I was
extremely famous, you get

1188
01:24:04,010 --> 01:24:07,970
invited to a party. And this
case, it was old world, it was

1189
01:24:07,970 --> 01:24:12,230
in Europe. And you know, like in
a huge mansion. I was very

1190
01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:18,200
young, I was maybe 2021. And,
you know, with some incredibly

1191
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,280
rich people, and they just
behave odd. And then all sudden,

1192
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,360
there's the Prime Minister
riding a 10 speed bike through

1193
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,960
the living room. I mean, so I
don't know about sexual

1194
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,960
behavior, but it seemed like
that would be pretty poss. I

1195
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,140
haven't seen anything with my
own eyes. But look at the

1196
01:24:36,140 --> 01:24:39,530
Podesta's look at the spirit
cooking. There's all kinds of

1197
01:24:39,530 --> 01:24:42,890
weirdness going on. And I think
mainly through boredom, but

1198
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:48,620
others would say, to gain power
from mystical things that we no

1199
01:24:48,620 --> 01:24:49,850
longer understand.

1200
01:24:50,630 --> 01:24:52,970
That's where I lean towards. No,
I'm

1201
01:24:52,970 --> 01:24:53,900
sure I'm sure.

1202
01:24:54,230 --> 01:24:58,250
So if you can queue it up, queue
up the theorem.

1203
01:24:59,090 --> 01:25:00,140
Do you need it did Ain't

1204
01:25:01,370 --> 01:25:08,180
gotta hit, please. All right. So

1205
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,980
normally, normally only reserved
for Marion Williams, but you may

1206
01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:17,270
use the Theramin. Yes.

1207
01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:21,740
A Thank you. I am other believe,
as many other conspiracy

1208
01:25:21,740 --> 01:25:26,960
theorist that the elite, as you
mentioned, you brought it up. I

1209
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,950
didn't I didn't lead the witness
that they use it to harness some

1210
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:35,240
kind of sexual or spiritual
power.

1211
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:40,070
I have researched this. I have
been through this many times.

1212
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,090
Early, early on no agenda show
we talk about it. This is where

1213
01:25:44,090 --> 01:25:48,410
reptiles comes from. And there's
a lot of evidence that this this

1214
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:52,820
was true is true is still
happening. And I think where

1215
01:25:52,820 --> 01:25:56,990
you're going is kind of sad.
Because yes, I'm pretty sure

1216
01:25:56,990 --> 01:26:02,120
that young, very young homeless
children are abused by elites

1217
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,420
for all kinds of crap, maybe
just to eat them or drink their

1218
01:26:05,420 --> 01:26:09,350
blood. I don't know. But there's
enough stories about it to make

1219
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:12,410
it certainly believable. And,

1220
01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:17,960
and one point we have to point
out, Jeffrey Epstein had some

1221
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,160
kind of weird Egyptian monument
on his island.

1222
01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:27,050
Yes, absolutely. Some kind of
Temple. Lots of speculation

1223
01:26:27,050 --> 01:26:32,990
about what it is. Many say,
entrance to a tunnel system

1224
01:26:32,990 --> 01:26:38,720
caves, there's evidence of air
inlets that would justify that

1225
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:43,220
speculation. Definitely weird.
Well, I'm weird or not. It's a

1226
01:26:43,220 --> 01:26:46,100
Gyptian styled architecture.
Yes.

1227
01:26:46,130 --> 01:26:49,940
So to come back out of theorem
land. I'm going to use a

1228
01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:56,870
reputable, reputable source to
support the allegation I have of

1229
01:26:56,870 --> 01:27:00,380
the LGBT connection to ancient
Egypt.

1230
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,780
Hello, I'm John Johnston. I'm
doing my PhD at the Institute of

1231
01:27:05,780 --> 01:27:09,920
Archaeology. I'm here today in
the pitch Museum of Egyptian

1232
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,120
archaeology at University
College London, to talk a little

1233
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:18,830
about LGBT History Month. This
is the third occasion now that

1234
01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:23,630
the museum has celebrated LGBT
History Month. On the first two

1235
01:27:23,630 --> 01:27:28,220
occasions, we held some special
lectures and on this occasion,

1236
01:27:28,460 --> 01:27:31,790
we've devised a trail of various
objects dotted around the

1237
01:27:31,790 --> 01:27:35,540
museum, which helped to
illustrate various aspects of

1238
01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:40,250
LGBT history in the ancient
world. One of the objects which

1239
01:27:40,250 --> 01:27:44,090
has been put on display
specifically for this month is

1240
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:48,980
the is the tale of Horus and Set
which is told on a papyrus

1241
01:27:49,310 --> 01:27:53,300
discovered by Patriot le Hoon,
it dates from the 12th dynasty

1242
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:58,160
and tells the tale of Horus and
Set wrangling over control of

1243
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:04,640
Egypt following the death of the
goddess Cyrus. After many years

1244
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:11,210
of this wrangling set decides to
change his his tack and attempts

1245
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:15,710
to bed to the god Horus
flattering him telling him that

1246
01:28:15,710 --> 01:28:20,780
he has beautiful buttocks and
muscular thighs. It's

1247
01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:24,950
particularly fascinating that
this oldest recorded chat up

1248
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:28,340
line in history actually appears
to be a gay chat up line.

1249
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:30,980
Nice ass Thanks, dude.

1250
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:43,760
So I say all these to say Wow,
the elite don't accept people's

1251
01:28:44,270 --> 01:28:55,280
lifestyles. They accept the fact
that their obscure beliefs align

1252
01:28:55,670 --> 01:28:59,960
with that person's lifestyle.
That's that's the end all be all

1253
01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:02,510
of where I went with this story.

1254
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,730
Wow, that you know what I'm
thinking. Moe, tyu and I are

1255
01:29:06,797 --> 01:29:10,769
missing out on something. Was
that maybe we're not doing it

1256
01:29:10,836 --> 01:29:15,011
right. I don't know a bunch of
married guys with kids. This is

1257
01:29:15,078 --> 01:29:18,848
not this seems like we're
missing out on all the all the

1258
01:29:18,915 --> 01:29:23,090
fun stuff all the power every
the true mysteries of the world.

1259
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:27,020
Well, I'm glad you brought that
up. Which brings us to our last

1260
01:29:27,020 --> 01:29:33,830
set of clips. Because with that
power, with that access, comes a

1261
01:29:33,860 --> 01:29:40,370
dark side. And so this is Dave
Chappelle after he when he

1262
01:29:40,370 --> 01:29:44,990
turned down his $50 million
deal. And he went on the run.

1263
01:29:45,950 --> 01:29:50,150
Cuz they said he was losing his
mind. Dave Chappelle Oprah

1264
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,270
I'm glad you're here. Everybody
wants to know why did you walk

1265
01:29:59,270 --> 01:30:01,670
away come from $50 million.

1266
01:30:02,570 --> 01:30:09,530
Well, I wasn't walking away from
the money. Yeah. I was walk away

1267
01:30:09,530 --> 01:30:14,630
from the circumstances. Uh huh.
They, they will come in with the

1268
01:30:14,630 --> 01:30:19,220
newfound plateau. Yeah, it takes
a while when you punch through

1269
01:30:19,970 --> 01:30:24,020
to adjust the atmosphere. It was
completely outside of my frame

1270
01:30:24,020 --> 01:30:28,310
of reference. I've been in show
business since I was 14. And

1271
01:30:28,340 --> 01:30:32,660
I've heard the stories of what
happens and I've seen these

1272
01:30:32,660 --> 01:30:34,040
kinds of things play out in
front of

1273
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,740
me. When I say when you say you
heard the stories, what do you

1274
01:30:36,740 --> 01:30:37,700
mean? What stories?

1275
01:30:38,060 --> 01:30:40,940
Would you say before looking
around? Karen made $100 million

1276
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:45,590
deal. And three months later,
she's Olson mysteriously crazy.

1277
01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:49,070
Oh, my Lawrence pushes through.
And he's waving a gun on street

1278
01:30:49,070 --> 01:30:49,580
screaming.

1279
01:30:49,940 --> 01:30:53,840
They're trying to kill me. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, we

1280
01:30:53,870 --> 01:30:55,070
hear those stories.

1281
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:57,500
And it always happens around a
time in your career where it

1282
01:30:57,650 --> 01:31:00,020
seems as though the crossing
over next plateau.

1283
01:31:00,050 --> 01:31:06,230
Yeah. Yeah, this is well known
stories, I would say these days.

1284
01:31:07,250 --> 01:31:13,700
They're still gossip that
Rihanna may be the clean lesbian

1285
01:31:13,700 --> 01:31:17,630
that everyone has to bow down
to. And maybe Beyonce has some

1286
01:31:17,630 --> 01:31:20,870
of that role. And there's a lot
of talk always been a lot of

1287
01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:21,890
talk about this.

1288
01:31:22,430 --> 01:31:27,200
Yeah, the point I'm trying to
make is when you take that next

1289
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:31,610
step, when you're, you know,
tiptoeing into that next what he

1290
01:31:31,610 --> 01:31:35,480
said the next plateau, right,
which is an interesting term to

1291
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:40,010
use. There's a cost to it. And
we've seen that throughout

1292
01:31:40,010 --> 01:31:44,960
history. We see that throughout
this this whole episode, if you

1293
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,370
want to call it that, that when
these people get to a certain

1294
01:31:49,370 --> 01:31:53,360
level, it cost them certain
things. Where there is the lady

1295
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,720
at the beginning, she couldn't
really talk about Jasmine, she

1296
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,480
couldn't really talk about how
she really felt because she was

1297
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:02,930
taught back about by her
alliances, even down to Dave

1298
01:32:02,930 --> 01:32:06,920
Chappelle. And we got a couple
more clips and we're gonna wrap

1299
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,080
it up here. So David Chappelle,
too,

1300
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:11,300
would you say you lost your
mind? Sort of?

1301
01:32:13,730 --> 01:32:19,070
No, no, not exactly. Okay. I
wasn't crazy, but it's an

1302
01:32:19,550 --> 01:32:24,470
incredibly stressful. Yeah. And
I felt like, you know, in a lot

1303
01:32:24,470 --> 01:32:27,740
of instances, I was deliberately
being put through stress.

1304
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,330
Because, you know, when you have
data generates money, yeah.

1305
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:35,810
People have a vested interest in
controlling. Yeah, if

1306
01:32:35,810 --> 01:32:38,750
you've ever seen Martin Lawrence
on Inside the Actor's Studio

1307
01:32:38,750 --> 01:32:42,200
tell his story. It's even more
vivid. It's really even more

1308
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:43,730
vivid than, than this.

1309
01:32:45,050 --> 01:32:49,370
Yeah. And that's okay, too,
inside baseball. I always gotta

1310
01:32:49,370 --> 01:32:54,560
give you a little bit every
time. It's a common thing, that

1311
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,840
when black men make it in
Hollywood, a majority of them

1312
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:00,740
had to bend over.

1313
01:33:00,950 --> 01:33:05,960
Yes. This has been said about
Eddie Murphy about Arsenio Hall.

1314
01:33:06,260 --> 01:33:08,900
I know those for sure. Because
I've heard people say it.

1315
01:33:09,980 --> 01:33:15,920
Even Quincy Jones came out and
kind of substantiate it. Oh, ah,

1316
01:33:15,980 --> 01:33:20,150
a lot of this. I mean, he was he
was like, Yeah, this guy was

1317
01:33:20,150 --> 01:33:23,210
with that guy. And you know, he
was this guy was what brought

1318
01:33:23,210 --> 01:33:25,850
Marlon Brando and he was
throwing names out there. I've

1319
01:33:25,850 --> 01:33:26,360
heard about

1320
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,610
Diddy if you hear this all the
time.

1321
01:33:28,940 --> 01:33:33,200
Right. So that's a common thing.
And in this third and final

1322
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:38,600
clip, Dave Chappelle is going to
illustrate how they come at you

1323
01:33:38,630 --> 01:33:39,530
in Hollywood.

1324
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,740
The hardest thing to do is to be
treated and stuff, especially

1325
01:33:42,740 --> 01:33:47,750
when everybody's watching. Yes,
yes. Show business has to do

1326
01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:51,350
with compromise. And wearing the
mask. You know, when they say,

1327
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:54,590
black folks, we wear that mask.
You've worked in that boardroom,

1328
01:33:54,770 --> 01:33:56,390
it's not that you that you don't
walk in the booth and like

1329
01:33:56,390 --> 01:34:00,890
what's poppin David? Yeah, you
got to put that mask on. And you

1330
01:34:00,890 --> 01:34:02,990
know, it was like we're
bilingual. We speak job

1331
01:34:02,990 --> 01:34:05,870
interview and we speak, we speak
around each other, you know,

1332
01:34:05,870 --> 01:34:06,200
saying,

1333
01:34:06,650 --> 01:34:07,970
Did you feel like a sellout?

1334
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:12,680
I felt like they got me in touch
with my inner cone thing stirred

1335
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:18,350
them up. When we were doing that
sketching at Galle, I felt like

1336
01:34:18,350 --> 01:34:25,760
man, I felt like they got they
got me. I mean, I'm a conspiracy

1337
01:34:26,330 --> 01:34:30,620
theorist to a degree. Like when
I connect that's that maybe

1338
01:34:30,620 --> 01:34:33,380
shouldn't be connected. I don't
know. But certainly that's like

1339
01:34:33,380 --> 01:34:37,160
when I see that they put every
black man and movies in a dress

1340
01:34:37,250 --> 01:34:39,620
at some point in Korea and
connecting them they're like,

1341
01:34:39,620 --> 01:34:43,880
Wow, he's brought a dress. This
happened to me. I'm gonna move

1342
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:48,080
with Martin. Yeah, movies going
good. So I walk in a trailer.

1343
01:34:48,530 --> 01:34:51,320
I'm like, man, what's going
wrong trailer because there's a

1344
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:59,030
dress in here. They come in. The
writer comes in. I think he's

1345
01:34:59,030 --> 01:35:02,540
right. He's like they Listen,
you got this hilarious thing

1346
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:06,860
where Martin sneaking out of
jail. So he disguises you as a

1347
01:35:06,860 --> 01:35:13,820
prostitute. You put this dress
on, and how prostitute? Now I'm

1348
01:35:13,820 --> 01:35:17,210
not doing it. I don't feel
comfortable with it. That should

1349
01:35:17,210 --> 01:35:20,330
have been in a discussion. You
don't feel comfortable with it.

1350
01:35:20,330 --> 01:35:24,140
I mean, it's hilarious bit. All
the greats have done it. So well

1351
01:35:24,140 --> 01:35:26,090
of all the greats Ben and it's
kind of hacky, right. You're

1352
01:35:26,090 --> 01:35:28,730
right. So why don't we just not
do it? Because I don't feel

1353
01:35:28,730 --> 01:35:31,700
comfortable in a dress. I'll
come on date. Let's we got it

1354
01:35:31,700 --> 01:35:34,700
all set up. We were supposed to
shoot every every minute you

1355
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:38,330
waste cost this much money. Now
the pressure comes in. I'm not

1356
01:35:38,330 --> 01:35:40,670
I'm not wearing a dress man. I'm
funnier than a dress this give

1357
01:35:40,670 --> 01:35:43,520
me some funny to say. I only
wear no dress to be funny. And

1358
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,100
what am I Milton bear on Ba ba
ba ba ba you never go like this.

1359
01:35:46,460 --> 01:35:48,980
And then finally it's like ah
and he leaves and then like the

1360
01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:52,220
director comes David really
would be great if you wear the

1361
01:35:52,220 --> 01:36:05,900
dress. Brokeback Mountain in his
dress. Well, we're the dress one

1362
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:06,980
way this dress.

1363
01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:22,670
So hopefully illustrated to a
point why black people,

1364
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:33,620
especially black, heterosexual
men, are apprehensive. To the

1365
01:36:33,620 --> 01:36:37,130
edges, what we view as agenda,
some of us majority of us view

1366
01:36:37,130 --> 01:36:38,630
as an agenda being pushed

1367
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:45,440
not by the people, no sales, but
from our high. Hope I did that

1368
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:50,390
with this with this with this
episode. Well, yes.

1369
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,860
We've revisited a lot of things
that I haven't looked at in

1370
01:36:54,890 --> 01:37:00,020
years and years and years. I
never made the connection

1371
01:37:00,440 --> 01:37:06,950
between Well, it's show
business, yes, LGBT, yes. But

1372
01:37:07,010 --> 01:37:10,580
wrap that all up into one the
influence is coming from above

1373
01:37:10,700 --> 01:37:13,790
how sexuality plays into that is
something I've never even

1374
01:37:13,790 --> 01:37:16,250
considered. So that was very
interesting

1375
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:24,620
dive. And that's how we view it.
And when you factor in survival

1376
01:37:24,620 --> 01:37:31,700
sex. It not only has to do with
things of the reason why I

1377
01:37:31,700 --> 01:37:35,750
brought it out, and it may seem
like a weird inclusion into

1378
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:43,130
this. But even on a Hollywood
level, those guys are looking at

1379
01:37:43,130 --> 01:37:48,920
it as survival. You know, saying
like, I have to survive with my

1380
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:54,650
career, so I'll put the dress
on. Yeah. You know, um, so it's

1381
01:37:54,650 --> 01:37:59,480
the same thing. So we have all
the things connected. And we and

1382
01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:02,120
we see these things like Dave
said, we connect the dots.

1383
01:38:02,540 --> 01:38:06,800
Also, to make people do things
they're incredibly uncomfortable

1384
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:12,500
with is an outstanding control
mechanism. A works in in all

1385
01:38:12,500 --> 01:38:16,850
cases, certainly when it comes
to things around self identity.

1386
01:38:17,210 --> 01:38:20,600
You know, this is this isn't how
many torture programs work. It's

1387
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,350
the whole idea is to get control
of somebody. And then if you

1388
01:38:24,350 --> 01:38:27,080
want to take it towards the
Epstein route, maybe you take a

1389
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,320
few pictures, let them know, you
know, that kind of changes the

1390
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:35,210
whole game now, by the way, that
is what the black FBI Director

1391
01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:38,450
J. Edgar Hoover was known for.

1392
01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:51,470
So how deep does it all still
go, man? Wow. My head is going

1393
01:38:51,470 --> 01:38:58,700
up. Yes. Okay. How do you want
to let this because I can talk

1394
01:38:58,700 --> 01:39:01,370
with you about this for another
eight hours easily.

1395
01:39:04,190 --> 01:39:08,390
It's mind control. I know that's
like the end of the day now. But

1396
01:39:08,690 --> 01:39:15,290
people what we do here, what you
guys do on no agenda is

1397
01:39:16,670 --> 01:39:21,320
combating the mind control,
pointing out the agendas. But at

1398
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:27,140
the same time, I will say this,
you have to be cautious of how

1399
01:39:27,140 --> 01:39:31,790
you address people just because
they're participating in an

1400
01:39:31,790 --> 01:39:36,410
agenda. God THEY DON'T might not
even know. Right. You guys

1401
01:39:36,410 --> 01:39:39,890
brought up and I know you want
to wrap here but just one last

1402
01:39:39,890 --> 01:39:43,640
thing that you brought up on st
like two shows ago last show.

1403
01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:49,760
Are we seeing a widespread MK
Ultra program being enacted on

1404
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:54,650
people? And l I think that's
where you're leading with the

1405
01:39:54,650 --> 01:39:58,430
trauma trauma thing, but we
brought it up here the trauma

1406
01:39:58,430 --> 01:40:00,350
base and entertainment
department I'm about

1407
01:40:00,350 --> 01:40:02,510
advertising. You know,

1408
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:08,480
every everything I'm seeing on
the news today is trauma based

1409
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:11,360
mind control. That is what look
at

1410
01:40:12,860 --> 01:40:14,060
Greta Thune Berry,

1411
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:21,950
who who looks mind controlled,
is being regardless no 16 year

1412
01:40:21,950 --> 01:40:25,430
old child should be put in this
situation under the world

1413
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:30,710
spotlight continuously. I mean,
without any parents supervision,

1414
01:40:30,740 --> 01:40:36,170
it is very disturbing to me, I
see the children's March. And I

1415
01:40:36,170 --> 01:40:38,510
think that's where, where we
were talking about it, the

1416
01:40:38,510 --> 01:40:42,170
Climate March, the climate
strike, there was no strike, the

1417
01:40:42,170 --> 01:40:47,810
children were given permission
and escorted for this issue in

1418
01:40:47,810 --> 01:40:50,390
this don't try to do any other
issues don't strike school for

1419
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:53,300
that wasn't a strike, everyone
got the day off. And they just

1420
01:40:53,300 --> 01:40:57,020
give him signs and chance. And
you know that a good percentage

1421
01:40:57,020 --> 01:41:01,670
of these children, maybe 30,
maybe 40% are on some form of

1422
01:41:01,670 --> 01:41:05,090
medication. But that is the
definition of what mind control

1423
01:41:05,090 --> 01:41:08,930
programs have been in the past.
MK Ultra being. And I know it's

1424
01:41:08,930 --> 01:41:12,530
a conspiracy theory, but go
ahead. It's real. And it was

1425
01:41:12,530 --> 01:41:16,700
real. And apparently, it's just
now on a bigger scale, and it

1426
01:41:16,700 --> 01:41:19,550
gets things done. It gets things
done.

1427
01:41:20,090 --> 01:41:24,740
So if I could do that with
Greta, in this day and time, why

1428
01:41:24,740 --> 01:41:28,460
couldn't they do it with the
people I listed here? Give me

1429
01:41:28,490 --> 01:41:29,600
the same effect.

1430
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:37,160
The question is, how does Dave
Chappelle still exist? How could

1431
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,410
he come back? Is he a resisting?

1432
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,920
is worse two ways you could look
at it, why He's resisting a one.

1433
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:50,720
He's all in. All in. And he's
used to control opposition

1434
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:52,190
aspect of it.

1435
01:41:52,940 --> 01:41:57,110
Well, Moe, I can only speak for
myself. And I know you pretty

1436
01:41:57,110 --> 01:42:00,800
well, by now, to a degree, I'm
pretty sure pretty sure neither

1437
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,860
of us are controlled, which is
why we're podcasters. This is

1438
01:42:03,860 --> 01:42:06,800
why we're not in Comedy Central.
This is why we're not on network

1439
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:13,550
television. Yes, yes. That's it.
Wow. Okay. I don't even know

1440
01:42:14,180 --> 01:42:16,670
what we're going to do on the
next episode. Because this is

1441
01:42:16,670 --> 01:42:21,260
this has been great. This has
been a lot of historical pieces

1442
01:42:21,260 --> 01:42:24,500
have been filled in from the I
know, growing up in Europe, I

1443
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:29,180
didn't have a true American
education, more much more

1444
01:42:29,180 --> 01:42:34,160
European. So I know very little
about black history. I think

1445
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,290
there's a month when I'm
supposed to look at it. But

1446
01:42:37,220 --> 01:42:38,870
that's a joke. No, no.

1447
01:42:40,460 --> 01:42:44,870
But this has been phenomenal. To
learn this and to see how many

1448
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:48,440
parallels there are and how many
things you just don't know about

1449
01:42:48,440 --> 01:42:51,470
where this control is coming
from. And it looks like indeed,

1450
01:42:51,470 --> 01:42:53,630
and maybe this will bring it all
the way around to the beginning.

1451
01:42:53,930 --> 01:42:56,660
And the more things change, the
more they stay the same.

1452
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,760
I can't say any better myself.
We would like

1453
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,239
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1459
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1460
01:43:25,602 --> 01:43:28,340
putting this together. This was
a great episode.

1461
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:31,250
Glad you appreciated it and um

1462
01:43:32,660 --> 01:43:33,170
yeah

1463
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:38,510
pay attention to everything and
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1464
01:43:38,600 --> 01:44:21,578
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1465
01:43:57,390 --> 01:44:14,010
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1466
01:44:14,273 --> 01:44:28,255
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1467
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