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She looks like William Shatner,
Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak, Sunday, February
11 2018. This is your award

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winning gizmo nation media
assassination episode one double

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oh seven.

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This is no agenda,

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suffering from a Olympic fever
and broadcasting live from

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downtown Austin Tejas capital,
the drone Star State in the

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gluteal in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
I'm here tweeting. I'm John C.

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Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.

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Okay, okay, rough opening.

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We'll get there. I can't get
enough that gag

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of your tweeting. Yeah, yeah. It
was funny. The first four or

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five weeks.

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Yeah, but nobody no one's ever
heard that. That particular gag.

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Okay, no one's ever heard. I'm
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the tweaks and

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but the question is, John, do
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No, I have I would like to see
the lose girl. And girl. Yeah,

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girl I didn't get to see here
just look but here's what

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bothers me. The Olympic a holes
they don't let anyone actually

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cover these games.

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Correct?

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That's true. You don't you can't

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see anything. You have to watch
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all you get is just nothing.
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to see that are super good.
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that's what I've been wanting to
see. Oh, chin. Yeah. Oh,

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it was so sad. Was it? Yeah. I
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the show. I watched the game was
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competition, which doesn't
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just for the team. Every
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our guy who

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was damaged. So I love seeing
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was

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boom, boom, it was so dramatic.
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commentators who are former
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woman. And then there's the
super gay guy. Both of them are

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Olympics top quality skaters and
you know, that's what you do you

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move on to that gig, but they're
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glitter glasses. Their
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glammed and glittered up it was
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geez, man. Feel bad. I feel bad.
I missed that. That sounds like

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the best part of the whole thing

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was, and I had recorded it. So I
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the bullcrap. And then they go
back to the studio and do some a

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package of oh, look at South
Korea. Okay, great. Faster. Oh,

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by the way, there's nothing
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Besides the fact that nobody
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these human interest stories
that drag on? Yes.

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And then we have the, or the ORS
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Olympic athletes from Russia,
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Russia can't participate. So
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little dugout and a little
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athletes from Russia. And they
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stuff. It's it's really quite,
it's just an if I find it

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shameful, really. It is
shameful. I mean, there's

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there's enough countries
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about the doping and understand
and was it 30 She

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got a punishment. You got to

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punish them. Yeah, you got to
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the opening ceremony. And you're
right, no one else can cover

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him. They take everything off
YouTube. And I I was like, Yeah,

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I'll get it off YouTube. And
I'll get it tomorrow more. Yes,

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Sunday morning, I'll find it no
problem. So of course, I could

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only find a clip of this, that
someone did shooting the TV,

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which is very annoying from the
audio perspective. But this is

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when you know, after they do the
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wasn't good. They had me
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the big opening, then the
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everyone's you know, it's the
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And you know, this is one of
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something in the New York Times
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really have understanding of the
topic and you see all of the

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mistakes that The New York Times
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You just lose faith in in
anything else. The New York

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Times writes. And Katie Couric
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a massive slam towards Megan.
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was yeah, there's a fight going
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For I did it. I don't want to do
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Don't do that. Katie Couric as
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She's reading the she's reading
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in and why are the Dutch so good
at skating John, why do they why

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do they have so many metals? Why
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Because the whole country is a
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Next is the Netherlands is
probably not a newsflash to tell

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you. The Dutch are really,
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All the five of the 110 Medals
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skating oval. Now. Why are they
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yourselves, because skating is
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transportation in a city like
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level. As you all know, it has
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in the winter. So for as long as
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Dutch have skated on them to get
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Okay, so first of all, Amsterdam
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level, as you all know. And no,
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Amsterdam for transportation in
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Can I ask you a question? How do
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They have ladders there's little
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that sounds inconvenient. But
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come on. Oh, yes, the Dutch for
centuries. As you know, when the

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canals reason Amsterdam, they
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skates and use it for
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So you get from here to there.

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Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

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Well, you know, we'll hold on,
I'm gonna mention something.

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There is a in Ottawa city. They
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they and that does freeze over
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cold up there, comparative to
Amsterdam. Yeah. And there's two

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Canadians all jump on that
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Fine. But that's this is the
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stupid. But if you're wondering
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skating, I'll tell you why.
There is of course, there's a

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skating tradition, but
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remember, and I think this goes
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50s, maybe even the 40s they
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competition. And that only
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only happens when the ice is
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have to be frozen over it's
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know exactly how long it is. And
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death or fingers get chopped off
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you sometimes you can't go under
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on your knees. It's called
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your knees around on, you know,
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back on your skates. And the
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every young male in the
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I am going to do it this year,
I'm going to be I'm going to win

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it. I'm going to be in

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New York Mayor Boston Marathon
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doesn't happen. So let me see
the last time they had one.

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Because they had no they have
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measure the ice and everyone's
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happen? Is this

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global warming this?

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Exactly. I can't I can't
remember when the last time is

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that they did one? I don't know.
Maybe the troll room might know

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last time they did it. But it's
every 1015 years is that they're

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full of crap. Yes. Big big time
full of crap. But it doesn't

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matter. I'm a big fan. I liked
that. We have now the where's

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the bobsled team from this year?
The joke bobsled team the women

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isn't the isn't the females from
women? Yes. From Nigeria? Maybe?

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No, no. It's from Bahamas or
some warm place. I said Why

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should one of those islands is
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I'd like that. Let me see. It's
the it is Nigeria make it? No,

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no, no, the Jamaican bobsled
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made the movie about it. Now
it's they have now they have two

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women Jamaican no

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Nigerian John. It's not
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yeah, there's a difference.
There's a difference. That's

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interesting. You bring that up.
Last night we went to thing here

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in Austin. And we were in the
Uber. And you know, I was like

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to talk to the Uber guy and see
where he's from. And they a lot

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of the drivers we've had
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what's the other one Somalia.
And so my, my standard staple is

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always Oh, how's the Chinese?
You know, that's when they do

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their head whips around they go
what you know about that. And

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this guy was from Kenya, but it
had a great, you know, Cadence

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and I heard like a little
English twangs that don't tell

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me, let me guess where you're
from. So I go through a couple

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of different I'm wrong, wrong,
wrong wrong. And then I hit on

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Kenya. And he's like, Yeah,
that's right. And then I said

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up. Obama's birthplace. The US
throw this out that he says he

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turns to me says, you know, he
speaks fluent Swahili, don't

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you? I see. He does Yes,
fluently, fluently, but he won't

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do it in in Kenya. Because
politically he can't do it. He

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says because then everyone will
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literally what the guy said.
This is totally free. Kenya

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that one. And I didn't know he
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Like you're all the bullcrap.
He's even talked to Obama

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himself.

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Okay, he's an Uber driver John
take it for the face take it at

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face value, if you don't mind.
Anyway All right. Okay, it's

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odd. Why it turned out it
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the Alexa device it rebooted
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by where do we start? John?
There's a lot of I think

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interesting things happening
some stuff that is not

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necessarily in the at the front
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I have the front of the new
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mainly this scandal The so
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guy who punched out his wife.
There's two things that went on

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one. This guy punched out his
wife supposedly but we don't

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know that. And then the other
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verbally abused as you're
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got a bunch of stuff because I
have the ABC report, which is

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the report itself is scandalous,
because it is got whipsaws and

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false accusations. And the funny
thing is on Saturday, another

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guy resigned which I think then
this guy does sound like a wife

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beater, play this Soros and
resigns a clip. So it gets a

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White House speech writer David
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after his ex wife alleged that
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abusive during their marriage.
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official this week to resign
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domestic abuse. In an interview
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Sorensen's ex wife Jessica
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including that he ran a car over
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Now that sounds like some guy
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I don't know any of them. But
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don't personally know him. I
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they're out there. And they're
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real key. He didn't even bother
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than that. And he just quit.
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guy who hung on since apparently
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they really first find out about
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first guy. But let's play the
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look at the whole story overall
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whips I love. Some of them are
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outrageous. This is

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the ROB Porter scandal. Yeah.
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this up a little bit or is that
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the intro right. And

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I President Trump speaking
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about the domestic abuse scandal
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Rob Porter and allegations now
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The president today praising
Porter's work wishing him well

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telling reporters quote, he says
he's innocent. And I think you

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have to remember that the
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tough time for Porter, White
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Hope Hicks, who has been
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was right there in the Oval
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in today. And late today,
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Chief of Staff John Kelly has
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his willingness to resign over
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senior White House correspondent
Cecile de Vega leading

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now we go into it and Cecilia is
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presents the story, I think
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hear these little whipsaws that
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obvious when you would go
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have to assume a couple of
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women so he never says much
about the X Y wives. And you, I

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have to assume you don't have to
assume anything. But I have to

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assume that the way I'm looking
at this thing is that he talked

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to Hope Hicks about the guy.

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Yep. I have some thoughts about
that. But I'll wait for you.

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Yeah, you can do your thoughts
that you I'm sure your thoughts

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will be more interested in mine
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my concentration is really on
the poor job, that they are not

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the poor job, there's a really
good job if you're going to if

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you're going to produce a hit
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as though it's about something
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well, for sure, this entire
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scandal. It's about Trump's
Trump Trump. It's about Trump,

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and he has shitty people, and
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John Kelly is shitty and
everyone's shit. It's not even

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it's not even it's not even
about the actual abuse that that

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went away very quickly. I will
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thanks to not Trump may be
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and I didn't I thought actually
you thought you might have it.

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it? It's in here. Okay. Well,
he's just started I just that

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was just the intro. And I'll
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say his statement, and we'll
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doesn't say stuff like that, or
it, let's say put it this way.

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He has the uncanny knack to say
something outrageous like, Obama

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wiretapped me. And then much
later, it turns out that he

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wasn't far off the mark. Not the
way he presented this was

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completely colorblind and tone
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expect? I understand he really
believes the guy is innocent. I

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can tell. That's his his word,
just saying the guy is innocent.

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He only might as well say this,
this girl is full of crap.

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That's problematic in PR world.

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Well, it's problematic with
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let's go on with the first
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With his White House under fire.
Today, President Trump breaking

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his silence, praising his former
staff Secretary Rob Porter, who

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resigned amid allegations he
abused both of his former wives.

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wish him well. It's a obviously
tough time. For him. He did a

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very good job when he was in the
White House. And we hope he has

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a wonderful career and hopefully
he will have a great career

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ahead of him. But it was very
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certainly he's also very sad.
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know, he says he's innocent. And
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that he said very strongly
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While the President talks about
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mention of the women Porter's
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with their accusations of verbal
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releasing this photo of a black
and blue eye. She says from

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porters punch, as President
Trump spoke right there in that

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room communications director
Hope Hicks who is romantically

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linked to Porter and Chief of
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brought in to restore order in
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reportedly knew about the abuse
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months, and sources telling ABC
News The president is furious

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with how both aides handled the
West Wing crisis Hicks, those

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sources say helped write the
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statements defending Porter, the

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President Chief of Staff have
had full confidence and trust in

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his abilities and his
performance. So defending

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defending is not the same as
saying we liked his performance.

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Oh, well, but it's the same as
you know, defending keh keh keh

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and white nationalists in
Charlottesville, which he also

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didn't explicitly do.

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No, he didn't. No, not even he
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explicitly doing that. That
doesn't matter that is now in

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the lexicon. It's done by
innuendo. And they're really

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good at it. This is not the best
example. But this this whole

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thing where first they praised
him, he's really talking about

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something else. Yeah, they use
these clips very carefully to

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mislead you. Let's go to three.

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When the story first broke,
Kelly called porter a man of

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true integrity and honor. But
tonight Sources tell ABC News

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that within the past 24 hours,
Kelly told the president he

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would be willing to resign. They
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confidants about possibly
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gauging businessman and longtime
friend Tom Barix interest in the

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job. Merrick said he's not
interested.

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Okay, now, this is an example of
you. We don't know anything

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about barracks. I've never even
heard his name. I never heard

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his name either. But they bring
him in. So they can be it's

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almost as though they said Who
can we call? Hey, Adam, did you

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get a call for it? Are you
interested in taking Trump's

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job? You said I'd never I
haven't been offered the job.

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No, I'm not interested in the
least. So that they report that

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even Adam curry wouldn't take
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job. That would be a good one.
forte by the way, that'd be kind

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of cool.

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It will he wouldn't even he's
not taking the job and then they

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have a clip of you saying I'm
not interested of anything else.

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I mean, this is like, I this is
ABC and his best. So let's go on

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to the next one.

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This is Kelly does some damage
control of his own sending this

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letter to staffers saying the
White House takes matters of

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domestic violence very
seriously. And in a meeting

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first thing this morning, the
Washington Post says Kelly told

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staffers to say he took action
to remove Porter within 40

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minutes of learning the ex wives
allegations were credible. But

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Porter's ex wives tell ABC News,
they told the FBI about his

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alleged abuse last January, when
they were interviewed as part of

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his White House security
clearance. His second wife,

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Jenny Willoughby says she told
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I told them, all of the details
of my marriage, including verbal

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and emotional abuse. Okay,
verbal

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and emotional, but No, all
right.

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Verbal and emotional abuse,
which means you're yelling at

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your wife.

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Verbal and emotional abuse is
very real. And it's very

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religious. Generally speaking,
I'm not taking the you're

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talking to a divorce a, who's
been wronged by the guy and the

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first woman in particular, by
the second woman. Yes, this guy

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jumps from woman to woman, he's
not going to get good reviews.

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His Yelp star is not rising.

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And verbal abuse isn't the same
as punching somebody.

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I agree. I agree. They don't
have a clip of the other ex wife

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I presume? No. Right. If they
did, here's the here's the thing

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that is confusing me and I, of
course I Well, first of all,

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this is a moment where it's so
here we have this Rob guy, Rob

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Porter. He is saying this didn't
happen. It's not true. And I

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gave that picture to authorities
a long time ago, I but I can't

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find anything and no one seems
to. I'm interested in what

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happened. Because moving
forward, when you have an

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accusation, you have to take it
extremely seriously. And it

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needs to be looked into not like
this. This isn't this is not the

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way to do it. As far as I'm
concerned. You know, just say,

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Trump's an asshole. Nobody wants
a job. This guy's a douchebag

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he's sure looks like a douchebag
every everything I read about

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his douchebag but everybody
deserves to have his quote day

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in court. And if he explicitly
says I'm not guilty, I'm

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interested in how he wants to
prove that but I can't No one's

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reporting on that. I can't find
it so well

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as he's already gone. He's gonna
have to do this on his own time.

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And I mean, I'm every problem I
always have is I'm always

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reminded of the Duke lacrosse
team. Oh, yeah, that was falsely

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accused of rape, and pretty much
run out of town the whole team

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unfairly because the whole thing
was was trumped up. Or the or

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the rapist fraternity that was
written up in Rolling Stone

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which turned out to be a woman
creating a story that some

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gullible reporter bid on and
wrote it up and they had the

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whole magazine had to apologize
to the frat and this guy thing

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was Cornell I can't remember the
school and just

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just to stop you.

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This does happen.

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I can see eyes roll. No, but I
believe that everyone in the M

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five M media is too pussy to say
what we're saying. It's like,

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okay, everything show me all the
circumstantial evidence, more

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than circumstantial actually
says this guy abused his ex

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wives. But he's saying he's
innocent. So now I'd like to

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know. Okay. Let's find out.

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We also made some commentary
about that picture. Yeah.

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He was He gave it to the
authorities years ago. I don't

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understand what did he give was

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a backstory behind the picture.
He says, right, but what is the

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backstory? Was it somebody asked
him? I can't find it. I found

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Yes. Because it's not out there.
Now this. The thing that

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bothered me the most is the
Sorenson character who does

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sound I mean, he's got the
earmarks of one of these

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characters that is, you know,
documented as a you know, put it

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I mean, it's just disgusting.
This guy just seems like an a

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hole.

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Right? Well, surprised. They're
everywhere.

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Especially at that level. You
get up into the CEO levels of

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most companies, you're gonna run
into stuff like that. That's

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where you see the holes. Yep. So
I think we're going to which is

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which one is you just play?

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Yeah, you know, this is the last
one is the Whopper.

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Okay. The Washington Post
reporting. White House Counsel

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Don McGann first learned of the
abuse allegations around the

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time of the President's
inauguration. Porter denies

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abusing his ex wives saying
these outrageous allegations are

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simply false. I took the photos
and the reality behind them is

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nowhere close to what is being
described. Well, we wish him

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well. This is not the first time
the President has come to the

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defense of a man accused of
violence against women. He

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endorsed Alabama Senate
candidate Roy Moore in the face

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of multiple sexual misconduct
accusations.

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Let's bring that back. All
right, this is the worst of the

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good. This is just a lie. This
is not the first time the

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President has come to the
defense of someone who committed

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violence against the women. And
then cites Roy Moore when

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there was no violence
accusations there. Were there.

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zero via violence. accusation,
it was mostly pedophilic kind of

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accusations of anything
underage. Underage or of yeah,

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that yeah, underage underage
dating. So, so she just lied,

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and then backed it up by using
the Roy Moore example, I found

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this to be and this was at the
end of the report Depart you to

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remember, I found it to be just
borderline disgusting on the

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part of ABC to report like, I
don't want to hear to me it's

445
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,150
not bad enough that they're
piling on which is okay, they

446
00:25:57,150 --> 00:26:01,050
can do whatever they want. But
but to do it with lies. Yeah.

447
00:26:01,410 --> 00:26:04,110
And you'd end exemplified with
something that's gotten which

448
00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:07,920
actually is impugning Roy Moore
even more than already, which I

449
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,150
found to be very poor. It is it
was just made me sick, that I do

450
00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:15,000
have an addendum clip, which is
just kind of a little casual

451
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,440
thing that was added at the end
when they did a little

452
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,250
discussion.

453
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:23,400
And Cecilia, the other major
issue is still out there. We

454
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,070
know that Rob Porter was working
with a temporary security

455
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:29,250
clearance because of those
accusations against him and more

456
00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:30,990
than a year into this
administration. Now, he's not

457
00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:33,810
the only one in the West Wing
who still have not been granted

458
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:35,070
full security clearance.

459
00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:37,470
And yet David in the White House
is refusing to provide a

460
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:40,110
specific number on how many
people are still using this

461
00:26:40,110 --> 00:26:44,250
temporary path. But our sources
say that Jared Kushner, the

462
00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:46,440
President's own son in law is
among them.

463
00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:50,820
Yeah. Okay. So our sources, and
then at the White House have

464
00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:56,730
not, did not say that he have
any numbers out of anybody,

465
00:26:56,730 --> 00:27:01,530
right? But they had to impugn
Jared Kushner. Yes. Jared

466
00:27:01,530 --> 00:27:04,740
Kushner is one of the major
targets right now. And I say

467
00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:13,170
that because I got into a I am
phone texting debate with my two

468
00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:14,970
liberal friends. When

469
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,330
what what what application were
you actually using? Was it text?

470
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,210
Was it AOL Instant Messenger? Or
was it WhatsApp? What were you

471
00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:21,600
using?

472
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:28,530
Phone texts, phone text? And
that Kushner is that is the is

473
00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:30,750
obviously the target because
they were just going on and on

474
00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,900
about how this could happen. And
how Trump can be president is

475
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:37,530
just horrible, that he even says
anything positive about this,

476
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:42,930
this guy who's you know, who
punched his wife, and just

477
00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:46,710
completely off the rails and
they said, and Kushner is going

478
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:51,000
down. Kushner and Don Jr. is
what I'm told those two, they're

479
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,430
the targets and they're going
to, they're going to arrest the

480
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:56,760
two of them. And they're going
to end the two of them are going

481
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,500
to flip on Done. Trump. We're
gonna flip both of them now

482
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:02,340
because they're weaning.

483
00:28:02,699 --> 00:28:06,419
I don't think that's I see
something else. Then it's it

484
00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:07,259
came is giving

485
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:08,430
you with these.

486
00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:11,910
Your guys have zero credibility.

487
00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:16,020
I know they still interested.
No, they're plugged into this

488
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:19,200
dimension B and whatever they're
saying is a reflection of his

489
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:21,330
thinking, Oh, that's interesting
that people are thinking that

490
00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:21,660
way.

491
00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:24,990
Well, I'm thinking we have a
black widow in the White House.

492
00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:29,580
And she's dangerous and she's
working for Ivanka and that's

493
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:35,400
Hope Hicks. Anything hope any
man Hope Hicks touches gets

494
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,400
fired? You know, she had a
relationship with Corey

495
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,910
Lewandowski gone. She had a
relationship with Rob Porter

496
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:46,440
gone. I believe and she's very
good friends with Ivanka that's

497
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:50,940
she comes from the Ivanka camp
from Ivanka US company. I will

498
00:28:50,940 --> 00:28:53,820
say that Ivanka and the Daily
Mail where this story broke

499
00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:57,360
about Rob Porter, you know, they
have a very close relationship.

500
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,670
She She does a lot with the
Daily Mail. Certainly PR wise.

501
00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:06,240
This is where this broken again,
I just it's lackluster

502
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,430
reporting. If the guy says he
didn't do it, I'd like to know

503
00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:12,330
about it. But if you just go
look at pictures of just look

504
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,110
Hope Hicks picture. Yeah, I know
she looks like me. But you want

505
00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:19,350
to see when she's next to she
she touched she's one of she's a

506
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:23,490
woman who touches men all the
time when she's talking to them.

507
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:28,860
And I have picture after picture
of her touching Reince Priebus

508
00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:33,960
gone. Rudy Giuliani actually
kissing Rudy Giuliani, you know,

509
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,370
embrace like, Oh, yes to death.
Yeah, kiss of death gone. Corey

510
00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:43,860
Lewandowski as I said, Gary
Cohen would be next. She's like

511
00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:49,020
she's just rubbing up against
Gary Cohen in pictures. And John

512
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:52,230
Kelly to you know, she, she
takes a picture, she'll put her

513
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:56,520
flat palm on the man's chest.
You

514
00:29:57,180 --> 00:30:00,480
know what that is? Yeah. In
fact, what's her name? Does that

515
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,750
to Kellyanne Conway? And who
else does it? Hillary? Hillary

516
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:11,220
with Harvey Harvey and Harvey
Weinstein, she's putting her two

517
00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:15,360
flat palms against his chest and
transferring some debt.

518
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,030
I definitely wish Jeff entered
his office he goes

519
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:22,320
now we're using your
interpretation that takes on a

520
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,820
whole new meaning. Yes.

521
00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:28,740
I'm telling you that Hope Hicks
is on a mission. I don't know if

522
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,440
it's for herself. I don't know
if it's for Ivanka, but I think

523
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,180
she is the Black Widow in the
White House. And people should

524
00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:37,050
stay away from her.

525
00:30:37,530 --> 00:30:41,190
It'd be for the reptilians
though the greys you don't know.

526
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:45,630
Okay, well, I'm just throwing it
out there as an observation. And

527
00:30:46,290 --> 00:30:50,460
you know, if you want to protect
the Kush, anyone who's getting

528
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:54,450
in the way will get bitten by
the Black Widow.

529
00:30:56,490 --> 00:31:02,040
Well, that takes that's a I am
now reconsidering the photos

530
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,980
that I see. Wait. You'll see,
you'll see Hillary for that

531
00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:05,370
matter.

532
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:10,200
I have a great Hillary clip. As
a fun little entre monde on

533
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,410
Trump while she was at the
makers Conference, which I

534
00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:17,070
thought was cool. Until I found
out it wasn't about maker space.

535
00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:20,580
It was about time's up. I'm not
sure exactly what this makers

536
00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:23,010
conference was about. And here
we got brave enough

537
00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:26,910
to question and examine our own
beliefs, brave enough to

538
00:31:26,910 --> 00:31:30,330
acknowledge that even those of
us who have spent much of our

539
00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:35,010
life thinking about and fighting
about gender issues, who even

540
00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:39,330
have first hand experiences of
navigating male dominated

541
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:44,310
industries may not always get it
right. I pledge to continue to

542
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:49,170
speak out I pledge to never give
up. I will do everything I can.

543
00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:58,740
Here we go. To keep my voice
number one to advance the rights

544
00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:00,150
and opportunities of women

545
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:05,700
in the midst of this snowstorm,
to stay on the frontlines of

546
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:06,480
democracy

547
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,530
so you go she's deathly ill
again

548
00:32:15,510 --> 00:32:22,710
to try to cough up a baby. Small
lizard. I'm giving you a clip

549
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:25,650
for the day because I knew that
clip existed but I couldn't find

550
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:34,650
I couldn't help making a loop
out of it because it's so

551
00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:51,120
rhythmic you just want it you
just want the guys you go on the

552
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,950
fly everybody jam session.

553
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,890
I was thinking about the hope
not i Hope Hicks names got you

554
00:32:58,890 --> 00:32:59,490
got me bugged.

555
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,950
I knew I knew I would get you
without it. Look at the

556
00:33:01,950 --> 00:33:06,600
pictures. And that's not gonna
say one thing about that the

557
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,020
palm on the chest. I've talked
with the keeper about this. He

558
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:13,830
said if there was a picture that
showed up with you and a woman

559
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:16,140
had her hand on your chest like
that said she'd be upset and I

560
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:19,440
said yeah, I understand. I don't
I think I would say excuse me,

561
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:26,490
you just not do that. I find it
very forward. I don't I don't

562
00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:28,080
put my hand on women's chest.

563
00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:33,900
I will you like to. I'm not. I
wouldn't say stop doing that a

564
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,030
guy bite them. bite them. Okay,

565
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,600
fine. But you understand what
I'm saying is it's a very

566
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,680
aggressive move.

567
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Yes, it's very aggressive now.
But anyway, I was thinking about

568
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,180
this in the background of
Hillary's

569
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,530
death coughing up a lizard.
Yeah.

570
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:57,810
And it is possible that it's
just the opposite of what you

571
00:33:57,810 --> 00:34:02,160
think, Okay, I'm all here is the
white widow. She is getting rid

572
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,350
of the evil around Trump. Very
possible. Because everybody had

573
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:12,330
mentioned brands previous the
leaker Lewandowski she's friends

574
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:15,240
but she's friends with Ivanka.
And she would have to then get

575
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:17,490
rid of Jared which would be

576
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,130
which is what is going on when
you listen to

577
00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:26,190
play. All right. So prediction.
She falls on her sword has an

578
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:28,560
affair with Jared every
everything blows up.

579
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:31,680
That would do it. It's gonna do
a better than what these

580
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:37,290
Democrats think is gonna happen.
But that would do it. Okay. And

581
00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:41,880
if she's that good, you know,
they have a seductress,

582
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:47,490
but in a short section in a
short amount of time, and, look,

583
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,310
it's a workplace I understand,
but she did have a relationship

584
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:53,850
with Corey Lewandowski. He did
get fired and had a relationship

585
00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:58,560
with Rob border when he got
fired. You know, she's been

586
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,020
cuddling up to literally just
Look at the pictures. You can't

587
00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,420
see it any other way than
cuddling up and the guides in

588
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,400
the pictures that she cuddles up
to get fired.

589
00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:10,410
So maybe she's cleaning house.

590
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:11,850
It feels like it.

591
00:35:12,779 --> 00:35:20,039
Well I would say I would I would
make the assumption that's for

592
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:25,799
the good. Okay. All right. Well,
I'm just gonna do that because

593
00:35:25,919 --> 00:35:28,289
there's it could be.

594
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,470
She's a spider. We just don't
know if she's black or white

595
00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:38,370
yet. Okay, Spider, spider
spider. Spider lady telling you.

596
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:42,330
Okay, well, I think nobody's
covered this subject as much as

597
00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:44,190
well as we as we just did.

598
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:47,640
Well, there's certainly a lot
more to the story. I think that

599
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:48,870
that's so evident.

600
00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:52,170
But nobody cares about that.
They're this story about Trump.

601
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:54,210
Yeah, it's not about this guy
Porter,

602
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,660
but they don't even care about
the they don't care about the

603
00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:00,540
women. They Oh, Trump said
nothing about the women. Yeah,

604
00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,160
well, you're not reporting on it
either.

605
00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:10,710
What's he supposed to say? i By
the way, I find it admirable

606
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,560
that Trump would stand by his
guy.

607
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,510
And I'm telling you, he he's a
goofball. But he doesn't do that

608
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,150
unless he really thinks there
was some railroading going on

609
00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:21,420
because

610
00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:25,110
well, I'm sure he does think
that but but you know, to be one

611
00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:30,750
of these member when or member I
said, Hey, a member or other

612
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:35,910
remember when it was Breitbart
that took a speech from that

613
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:38,580
woman that was the part in the
black woman is the Department of

614
00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:41,820
Agriculture, something and they
he took a speech, we had a we

615
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,940
covered it thoroughly, and
clipped it in such a way that

616
00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:47,670
she sound like she was just
being a racist at some meeting.

617
00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:52,320
And Obama fired her immediately.
I'm trying

618
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,200
to think I don't remember that.
No, I don't remember that.

619
00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:59,310
It was inadvertent. And then
then it turned out to people

620
00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:02,280
found the whole speech and the
whole thing was completely

621
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:05,970
ridiculous. Yeah, out of
context. Breitbart, it's done.

622
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,730
It was a setup. I think it was
before Breitbart himself was

623
00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:13,440
still I think it was still
alive. And, and, and everybody

624
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,800
had to Oh, my God, we fired her
unfairly. And it was a big,

625
00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:18,870
it was that Michelle fields? No,

626
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,480
no. She makes cookies. I think
that when he? I can't remember.

627
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:29,730
I can't remember either. But you
do remember the incident? Very

628
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:34,410
that is not That's not what I
want to see from a president now

629
00:37:34,830 --> 00:37:38,250
panicky, you know, somebody made
an accusation, get them out of

630
00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:42,720
here, right. So I didn't think
it was a big deal that Trump was

631
00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:45,930
like, took his time about
getting the guy fired or having

632
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:49,920
him resign, personally, because
it wasn't an issue of national

633
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,630
security. It was his personal
life.

634
00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:55,830
Surely, surely. Shirat tsherige?
Sure. Sure. Ross shared

635
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:59,820
it may have been something like
that. Yeah. Yeah, we'll put

636
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:00,210
maybe

637
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:05,970
well, I'm trying to I'm trying
to find the spelling. See if I

638
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:09,900
can find it. No, I What would
you have titled the clip? Do you

639
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:10,230
know?

640
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:17,310
Bright by me had Brian. Try that
I try that right. Share it. And

641
00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:23,100
I don't know firing. I probably
titled this something incredibly

642
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:23,910
stupid.

643
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:26,670
Sorry, we don't have it. Okay.

644
00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:33,570
But the point is, is that AI is
a is a leader. I mean, there's

645
00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:36,420
it's there is due process, and
all these elements that are

646
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:40,380
being ignored, just panicking,
because somebody made an

647
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:43,770
accusation. In fact, I got a
message from a friend of mine

648
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:46,620
who said he's friend working at
some bank in New York and just

649
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:50,100
got fired from an anonymous
accusation from some woman

650
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,610
saying he abused or something
really, you never find out

651
00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:57,300
anything about it and got fired
your friend. Termination like a

652
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,560
friend of yours. No, the friend
of mine did get fired his Galaga

653
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,600
and he is bitching about it?

654
00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:09,510
Right? Well, that's what we mean
now have to do secretly we can

655
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:11,730
bitch about it, but we can only
bitch to each other and not in

656
00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:12,270
public.

657
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:18,480
This is a fact that we can you
and I can pitch in public. You

658
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,740
know, because we don't have
bosses.

659
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,460
Yeah, we don't. But it is it.
There's a lot of aggravation

660
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:26,760
that comes with just talking
about stuff.

661
00:39:27,630 --> 00:39:30,450
Yeah, well, you had a lot as the
couch.

662
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:35,850
I do have a few other updates in
in this genre. If we say this

663
00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:39,990
would be hashtag me too. In
fact, maybe we should

664
00:39:41,220 --> 00:39:44,730
do this. Now. It's time for your
sexual harassment.

665
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:49,949
That's right. Sexual harassment
update. We have a change in the

666
00:39:50,399 --> 00:39:56,879
law for Congress for the
Congress, men in particular, I

667
00:39:56,879 --> 00:40:01,799
guess. It is the king Rational
sexual harassment and

668
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:06,089
discrimination addendum act I
think something like that Jackie

669
00:40:06,089 --> 00:40:08,279
Speier has headed this Jackie
Speier

670
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,740
has been a major voice for
change on the Hill during the

671
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:14,130
metoo movement. And her
announcement today essentially

672
00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:18,270
will allow for this bill, this
bipartisan legislation to go up

673
00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:21,480
for a vote it could come anytime
this week. And what this bill

674
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,730
would do as amended
congressional accountability act

675
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:26,040
to require the members of
Congress who settle sexual

676
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,300
harassment claims must pay the
settlements themselves no longer

677
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,240
with taxpayer dollars. And in
addition to that, it will allow

678
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,090
the accusers to file complaints
without having to sign a

679
00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:38,790
nondisclosure agreement,
something we've heard so much

680
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:42,540
about in the last few months,
these NDAs that keep people from

681
00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,600
being able to talk about what
they alleged happened to them.

682
00:40:45,870 --> 00:40:48,150
Now, there's a lot of support
for this bill, a lot of people

683
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:51,330
who say that this is a much
needed change. But there are a

684
00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:54,420
fair amount of criticisms as
well. Some people say that it

685
00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:58,110
does not go nearly far enough.
And in fact that it limits the

686
00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:02,700
ability for victims to file a
lawsuit outside of this process

687
00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:06,360
on Capitol Hill, it would also
require claims to be made under

688
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880
oath, which some say can be
pretty problematic, because a

689
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,700
lot of these allegations don't
come with real evidence. It's

690
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,540
often a he said she said
situation now, all of that said,

691
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:20,040
I'm told that it is expected to
pass with unanimous if not near,

692
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,880
and unanimous support when it
does go up for a vote in the

693
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,380
House in the next few days.

694
00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:31,290
And it did pass. So I did not
law yet, but it passed that

695
00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:34,770
hurdle. And it should be very
interesting to see what happens

696
00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:35,130
now.

697
00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:37,950
Because yeah, well, that was
proposed some time. But we

698
00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:40,170
actually talked about this. I
know actually a couple months

699
00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:43,350
ago. Yes, we did. Well, here I
thought it was I didn't think it

700
00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,170
was unreasonable. Because the
apparently these guys were

701
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:51,210
paying off huge settlements with
taxpayer money.

702
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:55,620
Yeah, but there's that. But to
get a black widow in there, and

703
00:41:55,620 --> 00:41:58,410
well, it's going to be because
then they'll have to be hearings

704
00:41:58,410 --> 00:42:02,820
under oath and b is going to jam
C span. It'll just be in you

705
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:04,320
know, everyone will be only
talking about

706
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:06,990
stuff is kind of entertaining.
Ah,

707
00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:10,770
not really, you know, the New
York Times had a list of

708
00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:15,600
published a list of the 68
firings and resignations,

709
00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:19,950
actually after Weinstein colon
68 men accused of sexual

710
00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:21,840
misconduct and their fall from
power.

711
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,480
And all of them actually in
there.

712
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:26,910
There's a lot yeah, there's a
lot who I haven't we haven't

713
00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:29,220
discussed and didn't know about.
So would you like to go on the

714
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:29,850
list briefly.

715
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,370
I would love to go down the list
briefly.

716
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:35,520
So we have Daniel's Verbling.
He's an investigative reporter

717
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,880
at NPR. And he won his
accusations are

718
00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:41,700
just read the names. And now if
they're interesting, we'll ask

719
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:43,350
for the accusations that we plow
through it.

720
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:50,610
Vincent, the sister and Tony,
Hollywood manager, John Copely,

721
00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:54,720
stage director at the Met Wayne
but shell chief executive of the

722
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,910
Humane Society. That's pretty
cool.

723
00:42:57,419 --> 00:43:00,179
That is funny. That is. That's
ironic.

724
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,720
Yeah, accused of sexual
harassment of three women

725
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,480
including forced kissing, which
is very egregious.

726
00:43:06,509 --> 00:43:08,909
Well, you know, it bothers me
that love for sketching is just

727
00:43:08,939 --> 00:43:14,459
so egregious, horrible. But what
bothers me is the is what

728
00:43:14,459 --> 00:43:16,649
happened to John Lasseter on the
list.

729
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,370
Well, let me go down the list
that No, he's not. Okay, well,

730
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,550
he should be on the list. Well,
I'm just the list is incomplete.

731
00:43:23,550 --> 00:43:26,190
That's all I wanted to find out.
But John last year was rousted

732
00:43:26,190 --> 00:43:29,580
from Pixar for unwelcome
hugging.

733
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
He might be on the list. I
thought it was alphabetical.

734
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,240
It's not. It's chronological.
Okay, go then we have Steve Wynn

735
00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:39,510
Barry Lubin. Do you know Barry
luminous?

736
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:41,340
I don't know who Barry blueberry
Lubin

737
00:43:41,340 --> 00:43:45,870
is grandma the clown for the Big
Apple Circus. So imagine being

738
00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:47,730
harassed sexually harassed by a
clown?

739
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,570
Well, I think most women feel
that way about most men Gordon,

740
00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:54,450
Gordon Edelstein, artistic
director of the Long Wharf

741
00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:59,490
Theatre, Patrick Mian, Mian
Meaghan o Mead Maalik, which

742
00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:02,820
caught me for a second because I
thought it was oh, Maalik. But

743
00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:06,150
he's omitted Maalik, apparently
a different guy Managing

744
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:09,780
Director of Bank of America
James Rosen. Fox correspondent

745
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:14,430
Mike Germano Chief Digital
Officer advice. Don Hasan,

746
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,790
journalist and executive
director of AlterNet Marcelo

747
00:44:17,790 --> 00:44:22,110
Gomes, ballet dancer at the
American Ballet Theatre, Charles

748
00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:25,470
Dutoit conductor and artistic
director of the Royal

749
00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:28,770
Philharmonic Orchestra. Man does
orchestra guys they get around,

750
00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:33,540
don't they? The club's boring
job, the classical the classical

751
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:37,050
arts, Morgan Spurlock
documentary probably

752
00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:39,660
do they probably do classical
harassment? Yeah,

753
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,040
of course kissing. It's
classical, darling. Not that

754
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,950
modern Weinstein jerk off in the
plant stuff. We do. classic,

755
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:50,430
classic, classic, classic,
classic arrest classical

756
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:54,360
harassment. Donovan McNabb,
former NFL player, radio host

757
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,560
ESPN Eric Davis, also former NFL
player and radio host on ESPN

758
00:44:58,890 --> 00:45:03,360
Mario Batali. Chief, a chef,
restaurant owner, co host of the

759
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,120
to one of your favorite shows.

760
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,920
Well, he's actually more of a
he's a very famous chef and owns

761
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,290
a number of starred restaurants.
Bobbo being his hot spot in New

762
00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:21,150
York City, and he always seemed
like kind of a creepy guy, but

763
00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:23,910
he's a chef. I mean, some of
them are, you know, the chef

764
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:26,550
said, we have a lot of chefs
listen to the show. And you

765
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,030
know, these guys. It's a little
community of people and they

766
00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:31,500
know there's a lot of creeps in
their

767
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:36,450
groups everywhere. Yeah, well,
Ryan Lizza, writer for The New

768
00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:39,810
Yorker and political analyst for
CNN, Alex Kaczynski, federal

769
00:45:39,810 --> 00:45:43,800
judge appeals court, Trent
Franks and a representative for

770
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,900
Arizona Lauren Stein, editor of
the Paris Review. Matt Dubbin, a

771
00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:52,440
California State Assemblyman
Peter Martin's leader of New

772
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,010
York City Ballet, again, the
classical the classical arts.

773
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,160
There's a problem in the
classical arts here, Israel

774
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,470
Horvitz playwright, founding
artistic director of the

775
00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:06,330
Gloucester stage theater. We
have Shervin Pishevar these from

776
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:10,860
Sherpa capital. Justin Huff a
Broadway casting director. Gee,

777
00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:15,390
how could you expect that from a
casting director? Garrison?

778
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:19,200
Keylor killer killer? That's the
that's the he's not the

779
00:46:19,770 --> 00:46:20,880
killer killer. Yeah,

780
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,790
the NPR Guy, Matt Lauer. Johnny
on the prairie loose Zini. Chef

781
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:32,430
and judge on the great American
baking show. Charlie Rose, John

782
00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:36,600
Conyers, Coyne Conyers, Jr.
These Michigan representative

783
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,260
Russell Simmons Al Franken.
David Russell Simmons.

784
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,410
Yes, sir. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's
admitted to that. I'm not an

785
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:44,940
officer. So

786
00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:47,850
I'm sorry. He has not he has not
he I vehemently deny all these

787
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:51,900
allegations. I've already heard
the allegations. Sexual assault

788
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:56,490
of two women and rape of three
others. He's gay. Russell

789
00:46:56,490 --> 00:46:57,030
Simmons.

790
00:46:57,450 --> 00:47:00,480
Oh, Russell Simmons. I was
thinking to Richard Simmons.

791
00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:04,710
Okay. Oh, Russell Simmons. I
think I've always thought he was

792
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:07,530
gay that those accusations kind
of surprised me.

793
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:15,030
David Sweeney, chief news editor
at NPR. Stephen or Stephen

794
00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:19,650
Vitel, Florida Democratic Party
chairman. West Goodman, Ohio

795
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:22,710
State Representative Mark Shuang
director and producer of One

796
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:27,060
Tree Hill and the Royals. Eddie
Berganza. editor at DC Comics

797
00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:30,300
Andrew Kreisberg, executive
producer of Arrow Supergirl and

798
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,500
the flash. Tony Cornish
representative who's that those

799
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:39,600
Super Girl guy? Andrew
Kreisberg, executive producer of

800
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,070
Arrow Supergirl and the flash
accusation section sexual

801
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:47,880
harrassment of more than a dozen
people fired by Warner Brothers

802
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,790
TV group response I have made
comments on women's appearances

803
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:53,520
and clothes in my capacity as an
executive producer but they were

804
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,620
not sexualized. Sounds a lot
like us.

805
00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:00,150
Yeah, sounds when we do our
executive bid. Yep. So this is

806
00:48:00,150 --> 00:48:02,430
common. I don't know why, you
know, what are these? What's

807
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:05,970
going on? Well, I got fired
because gonna get fired by our

808
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,430
by our imaginary bosses. If we
keep this bid up, Louie CK

809
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:16,080
Dan schoon, Minnesota State
Senator Benjamin Janak Keough,

810
00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:20,310
Executive Director at the Armory
Show Art Fair. Ed Westwick.

811
00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:25,440
actor David Guillard, Gilead co
executive, co chief executive of

812
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,300
primary wave entertainment
agency, Danny Masterson, actor

813
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:35,340
Andy Dick actor, Andy Dick.
Chase. Yes, he's groped me. Andy

814
00:48:35,340 --> 00:48:39,240
did close everybody. Matt he's
probably proud of being on the

815
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,170
list. Nyko Yeah. Michael
rascasse. Oh, I didn't know head

816
00:48:43,170 --> 00:48:46,410
of news that NPR and former New
York Times editor that NPR news

817
00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:47,460
department is doing well.

818
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:51,960
Hamilton is getting his numbers
up. Yeah. Amongst other things.

819
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:57,240
Hamilton fish, oh. President and
publisher of the New Republic

820
00:48:57,270 --> 00:49:00,900
Kevin Spacey, Kurt Webster,
publicist for music business

821
00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:06,330
rule. Bocanegra, California
State Assemblyman Mark Halperin.

822
00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:10,350
We know him from NBC News. Rick
Najera, Director of CBS

823
00:49:10,350 --> 00:49:11,730
diversity showcase.

824
00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:15,930
That's a good one. Yeah, no more
irony. Yeah, sexual

825
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:18,150
harassment, including
inappropriate comments to

826
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:21,030
performers. He resigned. And his
response

827
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:24,870
was means you suck. Could be
anything.

828
00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:30,480
Night Landesman, publisher of
The Art Forum to classics man,

829
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:30,900
it's really

830
00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:35,400
you guys. Where's the
opportunity to do the

831
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,000
harassment?

832
00:49:36,689 --> 00:49:40,799
Baby? Let me see you your art.
Sexual harassment of at least

833
00:49:40,799 --> 00:49:44,279
nine women including groping, he
resigned and his response I

834
00:49:44,279 --> 00:49:47,579
fully recognize I have tested
I've tested certain boundaries,

835
00:49:47,579 --> 00:49:54,089
which I'm working hard to
correct. Steve Jurvetson that's

836
00:49:54,089 --> 00:50:00,269
the VC guy. Who Jurvetson Steve
Jurvetson Steve Jurvetson Yeah.

837
00:50:01,469 --> 00:50:08,009
Co Founder of venture capital
firm a board member. Yeah. Leon

838
00:50:08,009 --> 00:50:13,529
recent. What did Jurvetson do?
Sexual misconduct is all it says

839
00:50:13,889 --> 00:50:17,489
the term resigned from the firm
taking leave of absence from all

840
00:50:17,489 --> 00:50:21,419
boards he's on. And his response
was let me be perfectly clear.

841
00:50:21,659 --> 00:50:25,469
No such allegations are true.
Nice performance the way he quit

842
00:50:25,469 --> 00:50:30,749
everything right. Leon because
well, you know, in corporate

843
00:50:30,809 --> 00:50:34,619
life can't have this they they
don't want to risk a boycott or

844
00:50:34,619 --> 00:50:40,589
anything. So, yeah. Implications
enough. Leon vehcile tier editor

845
00:50:40,589 --> 00:50:43,679
at the New Republic. Terry
Richardson, fashion photographer

846
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:46,589
John Besh, Chief Executive of
the Best Restaurant Group,

847
00:50:46,589 --> 00:50:51,479
another one of these restaurant
guys. Lockard steel and

848
00:50:51,569 --> 00:50:54,809
editorial director of Vox media,
Robert Scoble, tech blogger, co

849
00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:58,469
founder of the transformation
group, Clif height, senator from

850
00:50:58,469 --> 00:51:01,649
Ohio, Chris Savino, creator and
showrunner of the loud house,

851
00:51:01,649 --> 00:51:06,359
Roy price head of Amazon
Studios, and the signori, Senior

852
00:51:06,359 --> 00:51:09,299
Vice President of content for
defy media and then we have

853
00:51:09,299 --> 00:51:14,279
Harvey Weinstein and then
there's Jesus 28 suspensions and

854
00:51:14,279 --> 00:51:17,879
other foul it's very long even
Ben for Where's Bill O'Reilly

855
00:51:17,909 --> 00:51:21,989
and not on there. Ben Vereen? I
know Ben Vereen was on the list,

856
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,830
and Vereen? Yeah, what about
Roger Ailes and Bill Bill

857
00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:27,930
O'Reilly I can guarantee you I
mean, this is the New York Times

858
00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:29,850
what did they have they
overlooked these guys not

859
00:51:29,850 --> 00:51:32,820
on the list. That's interesting.

860
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,900
That's a point to this list are
some politics about this because

861
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:41,100
they left those guys off. I
think

862
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,530
people want to Riley they want
free tickets to all the

863
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:47,220
classical shows probably. Our
guys

864
00:51:47,820 --> 00:51:51,060
getting any, I get a ticket. So
let's go.

865
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,840
Then we have a very interesting
revelation.

866
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,640
Come in, by the way end of the
hugger over here. Yes, Christina

867
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,870
listed either Lasseter.

868
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,740
Well, the one that should be on
the list is California

869
00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:07,320
Assemblywoman Christina Garcia,
Assemblywoman

870
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,500
Garcia, the Democrat from Bell
Gardens. She is accused of

871
00:52:10,530 --> 00:52:13,770
inappropriately touching a
staffer from another office at a

872
00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:18,300
legislative softball game back
in 2014. The staffer who now has

873
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,780
his own communications firm,
told the publication politico

874
00:52:21,810 --> 00:52:24,420
that he was in the dugout after
the game and that when the

875
00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:28,410
assemblywoman came in, he says
she appeared drunk and touched

876
00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:32,070
him inappropriately. He said he
decided to come forward now

877
00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:35,340
because he was troubled by
seeing her role in the me to

878
00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:38,940
movement. Garcia Bell Gardens
Democrat, as we said, has been a

879
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:42,090
strong voice in that me too
movement and was profiled in

880
00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:44,940
Time Magazine's recent Person of
the Year Edition.

881
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,220
That's pretty egregious.

882
00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:51,360
I would say for one thing, if
you're some guy and some drunk

883
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,850
woman comes up and grabs your
balls or something but buttocks

884
00:52:57,330 --> 00:53:01,320
or buttocks, it shoves her away,
or I'd say keep doing it. I

885
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,560
mean, you'd be you wouldn't go
run into the media. Oh,

886
00:53:04,620 --> 00:53:06,990
only only in political cases. Do
you run to the

887
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:13,320
pulpit but because he saw her as
some holier than thou type with

888
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,840
the me to movement. He says,
come out.

889
00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:18,030
Women Garcia issue. Anybody

890
00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:19,920
got a second clip here.

891
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Assemblywoman Garcia issued this
statement regarding the

892
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,370
allegations. She says she will
fully participate in any

893
00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:30,330
investigation into her conduct.
She did confirm that she was

894
00:53:30,330 --> 00:53:34,710
present at that softball game
back in 2014. But she says she

895
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:37,260
does not recall any
inappropriate behavior.

896
00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:40,230
She was plastered. Of course he
doesn't

897
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:46,740
recall it. Last night we went to
flower child are you familiar

898
00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:50,340
with this chain of eateries
flower never heard of it. It's

899
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:54,090
pretty it's actually I think
it's a golden formula. They have

900
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,000
you know, kind of like quinoa
bowls and stuff and kale, which

901
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,750
I won't eat, but they have no
wraps with the avocado and other

902
00:54:00,750 --> 00:54:06,300
things and deconstructed burrito
bowls. And, and they have no

903
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,910
service which is great. Yeah,
you walk up your order, you get

904
00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:11,550
a number and then they bring it
to your table. I think there's

905
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,300
like a Mexican tacos sounds like
a Mexican Thai Korea and he

906
00:54:15,330 --> 00:54:15,720
plays

907
00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:20,070
with the with the douchey
attitude, basically. Okay. Yeah,

908
00:54:20,070 --> 00:54:24,480
sounds right. And so I walk in
and the guy goes, Oh, my God for

909
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,250
a second when you put your
glasses on, I thought you were

910
00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:29,940
my favorite psychologist. I'm
like Who says I'm not. But who

911
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:33,690
is your favorite psychologist?
And guy says, Jordan Peterson.

912
00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:38,850
Do you see a resemblance? None.
That was obvious as well with

913
00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:41,940
you. You're tall and your dad
dashing and you've got the

914
00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:43,020
grayish hair.

915
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,920
You have a scarf? No, I didn't
throw it back.

916
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,620
But I do have an interesting
clip from Mr. Peterson. Who was

917
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:56,640
in an interview with Vice I
think. Yeah, he's

918
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,660
the hot topic right now.

919
00:54:57,660 --> 00:55:01,770
This always very hot topic and
he does a little Like you do me,

920
00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:05,520
you know, so you'll ask, I can
ask you a question you'll give

921
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,850
me an asshole answer. You know
what I'm talking about? You'll

922
00:55:08,850 --> 00:55:09,150
hear he

923
00:55:09,150 --> 00:55:10,260
ever done that

924
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,190
sexual harassment in the
workplace? Yes. Should it stop?

925
00:55:14,220 --> 00:55:19,080
That'd be good, will it? Well,
not at the moment it won't

926
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,210
because we don't know what the
rules are. Do you think men and

927
00:55:21,210 --> 00:55:23,130
women can work in the workplace
together? You don't know,

928
00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:24,330
without sexual harassment?

929
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,060
We'll see. That's a Devorah
answer.

930
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:32,040
Yes, that was that. That was
That asshole answers just didn't

931
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,520
answer

932
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:34,290
at the moment. It won't. Because
we don't know what the rules

933
00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:36,540
are. Do you think men and women
can work in the workplace

934
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:38,970
together? You don't know.
Without sexual harassment? We'll

935
00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:42,120
see. Well, how many years will
it take for men and women

936
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,190
working in the workplace
together? More than four data

937
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:44,580
sets

938
00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:45,570
more than 40? Don't

939
00:55:45,570 --> 00:55:48,180
know what the rules are? Like,
what? Here's a rule. Don't talk

940
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:51,660
about no makeup in the
workplace. Oh, why would that?

941
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,990
Why should you wear makeup in
the workplace? Isn't that

942
00:55:54,990 --> 00:55:58,920
sexually provocative? No, it's
not. No. What is it? Then?

943
00:55:59,340 --> 00:56:02,820
What's the purpose of makeup?
Some people would like to just

944
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:06,870
put on makeup. Why? To? I don't
know why. Why do you make your

945
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:10,470
lips red? Because they turn red
during sexual arousal. That's

946
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:14,040
why why do you put rouge on your
cheeks? Same reason? I mean,

947
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,830
look, how about high heels?
We're going to think What about

948
00:56:16,830 --> 00:56:20,580
hey, what about them? They're
there to exaggerate sexual

949
00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:23,430
attractiveness. That's what high
heels do. Now, I'm not saying

950
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:26,130
that people shouldn't use sexual
displays in the workplace. I'm

951
00:56:26,130 --> 00:56:30,120
not saying I do. But I am saying
that that is what they're doing.

952
00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:33,630
And that is what they're doing
it Do you feel like a serious

953
00:56:33,630 --> 00:56:37,170
woman who does not want sexual
harassment in the workplace? Do

954
00:56:37,170 --> 00:56:39,900
you feel like if she wears
makeup in the workplace, that

955
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:45,060
she is somewhat being critical?
Yeah. I do think that Boom

956
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:45,840
shakalaka

957
00:56:46,410 --> 00:56:50,160
Wow, he's right, done. I've come
tatical simpatico with this guy.

958
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,250
See, I knew you would like it. I
compared you to him. And now you

959
00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:54,150
feel good about Yeah,

960
00:56:54,149 --> 00:56:57,689
I'm fine. I admire that you did
that or admire? I thank you for

961
00:56:57,689 --> 00:56:58,019
doing

962
00:56:58,050 --> 00:56:59,490
that. You do admire it. Yes.

963
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,220
But yes, I'm totally in
agreement with this. You know,

964
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,450
what do you wait? I don't think
it's a big deal, by the way. And

965
00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:13,500
I think a lot of women would
just assume, assume, would I'm

966
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:18,150
sorry, I think most women would
gladly not wear makeup, and have

967
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:21,030
to get all dolled up. I mean,
Texas is the worst for this and

968
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:24,480
you live down there. If you work
in Texas, have the women like

969
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,310
it, by the way, because I've
discussed this with the women

970
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:29,910
who moved from elsewhere to
Texas. Yeah. Where they're now

971
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:34,500
dolled up in the office. Yeah,
and many of them think it's

972
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:37,920
fantastic. It's just like it's
because it's fun to get all

973
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,430
dolled up. And it's you know,
it's not necessarily trying to

974
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:44,550
get laid, you just like to get
dolled up and in Texas that you

975
00:57:44,550 --> 00:57:47,430
can really get carried away with
that and you go to some of these

976
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:49,950
Texas offices and all the women
are and you go to a little

977
00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:52,800
restaurant in the middle of
nowhere a little I remember

978
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,280
running into I was in Judas in
Georgia not Texas but similar

979
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,640
situation. I'm I never could
find this place again. It was a

980
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,410
very obscure but absolutely
fantastic rib joint in the

981
00:58:04,410 --> 00:58:07,740
middle of nowhere, Georgia. I
was stuck in Georgia for an

982
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:10,050
extra day before my plane was
gonna leave in the evening. So I

983
00:58:10,050 --> 00:58:14,880
decided to drive around South
Georgia where I found this this

984
00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:17,100
rib joint in the middle of
nowhere. I was the only guy in

985
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:21,000
there and this waitress comes
out she's she's dolled up to the

986
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,250
10s she had big red lips and
have all kinds of makeup on a

987
00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:28,650
hair all done up and everything.
I was just very impressed by

988
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:35,160
that. Impressed no less, but I
would have to say that I agree

989
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,130
with him again, I've been
promoting this idea that in a

990
00:58:38,130 --> 00:58:40,650
workplace environment especially
where you have a lot of this

991
00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:44,610
harassment going on. You should
not women should not wear makeup

992
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,350
or get all dolled up they should
wear what men wear. Wear but

993
00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:52,770
suits but women's suits pants
probably shouldn't even be

994
00:58:52,770 --> 00:58:58,020
showing any legs. I think pants
pants is fine. And you're good

995
00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:01,140
now now that we get you even
ground nothing, nothing. There's

996
00:59:02,070 --> 00:59:03,270
nothing going on there.

997
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:05,250
Well I would find that very sad.

998
00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:09,570
Well, we don't work in offices
either one of us so it's not as

999
00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:13,560
though that would affect us. But
yeah, yeah, it is kind of sad,

1000
00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:16,920
but the way things are going is
kind of sad. And

1001
00:59:17,850 --> 00:59:20,160
your sexual harassment update

1002
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,640
Yeah. All right.

1003
00:59:26,670 --> 00:59:30,750
Well, with that I would actually
like to thank you for your

1004
00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:33,990
courage and say in the morning
to you John. As he stands for

1005
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:36,420
cosmetics in the workplace
double rag

1006
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,850
Willie in the morning to you Mr.
Adam curry. Also, in the morning

1007
00:59:41,850 --> 00:59:44,250
Joel boots on the ground feed
near sums in the water all the

1008
00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:45,630
names tonight's out there in the

1009
00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:49,230
morning to the troll room. No
agenda stream.com Lots of people

1010
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:51,300
in there this morning. Good to
see y'all. Thank you very much

1011
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:55,710
trolls. We'd love you in our own
special way. In the morning to

1012
00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:59,790
Laderman studio, who brought us
the artwork for Episode one

1013
00:59:59,790 --> 01:00:03,120
double Low six congressional
jiggy was the title of that.

1014
01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:10,590
This was this was an evergreen
eg qNi digney digney This was a

1015
01:00:10,590 --> 01:00:13,500
an evergreen that we've liked
very much and had promised

1016
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:17,430
ourselves to use it was the
classic his masters voice the

1017
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:23,250
dog Coxhead looking into the the
gramophone porn, with instead of

1018
01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:30,270
was that? Which label was that?
RCA RCA. Right? So instead of

1019
01:00:30,270 --> 01:00:33,480
RCA, it said CIA as the label,
which was cute.

1020
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,200
Yeah, it was cute. And

1021
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,410
we appreciate all the work that
our artists do. It's their

1022
01:00:40,410 --> 01:00:44,160
version of the value for value.
And it look, we got pros working

1023
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,790
on this stuff. So they upload
stuff during the show. And we

1024
01:00:47,820 --> 01:00:51,090
choose something from the no
agenda Art Generator, which you

1025
01:00:51,090 --> 01:00:54,060
can find it no agenda, art
generator.com. And we put it

1026
01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:56,670
right there into the mp3 file
into the show notes into the

1027
01:00:56,670 --> 01:00:58,650
feed everything. Thank you very
much to everybody.

1028
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:05,220
Indeed, we have a few people
that think I have to adjust the

1029
01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:06,870
spreadsheet. Sorry. Ah.

1030
01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:13,860
Yeah. Okay. So your spreadsheet
and what happened?

1031
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:21,690
Well, I, I was I blow it up to
150%. So it fills the screen and

1032
01:01:21,690 --> 01:01:24,510
I got it. So it's very readable
from a distance because I'm mile

1033
01:01:24,510 --> 01:01:29,160
away from the screen. And so
instead of, I put in the custom,

1034
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,110
because I don't this is
different than the other

1035
01:01:31,110 --> 01:01:35,220
spreadsheet. So instead of
putting 150% in, which is what I

1036
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:38,280
wanted to do, I put in 5%.

1037
01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:42,090
And so the spreadsheet you
thought you had forgotten your

1038
01:01:42,090 --> 01:01:42,840
medication,

1039
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,520
and the spreadsheet became very
small. Yes, very small. All

1040
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,490
right, well, we do have to thank
one person profusely, and I'm

1041
01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:52,440
going to introduce his Insta
Baron.

1042
01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:53,370
What very,

1043
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,580
I think it's like a third one
that we've had. And I'm going to

1044
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,690
put it into the barrens. I'm
going to go back to something I

1045
01:02:00,690 --> 01:02:04,140
forgot about this policy we had
for big donors like this, okay.

1046
01:02:04,170 --> 01:02:09,060
But we used to we this is Roger
Colburn. He came in with $3,000,

1047
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:14,040
he sent a note it is that you
have a standalone executive

1048
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,200
producer ship. So you have
instead of executive producers

1049
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,200
and have a whole bunch of
people, you have one standalone

1050
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,200
executive producer, and then
another executive producers and

1051
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,220
a whole bunch of people, which

1052
01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:29,340
is not just not uncommon in
Hollywood credits either.

1053
01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:33,660
Very common. The only problem
this time is that we have no

1054
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:36,510
other executive producer so you
stand out.

1055
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,080
You pick the bad day, my friend.

1056
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:44,280
But that said, that's what
that's what I

1057
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,880
can't wait to hear his notes. I
mean, he clearly derived a lot

1058
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,190
of value from the show and I'd
love to hear about it.

1059
01:02:50,550 --> 01:02:53,490
Yeah, he sent a note in a
greetings from the Frozen

1060
01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:56,370
Traverse City, Michigan, which
is funny. That's where Jason's

1061
01:02:56,370 --> 01:02:59,790
wife comes from Jesse. I have
been a loyal listener since

1062
01:02:59,820 --> 01:03:05,880
episode 333. encloses my racist
contribution of three fifths of

1063
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,670
a vie count according to the
complex math that should make me

1064
01:03:08,670 --> 01:03:13,800
an Insta Baron. Why is it
racist? Because it's additional

1065
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,100
three

1066
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:19,200
slaves Okay, gotcha. Nice. There
you go. That no agenda show

1067
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,700
taking racist donations.

1068
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,390
As the rule follower, I had my
son's research peerage rules.

1069
01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:30,720
All their research revealed was
there questions of why should be

1070
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,160
donating to people whose last
names are a keyboard layout or a

1071
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,420
type of spice?

1072
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:42,570
Usually, I appreciate that
because usually is like an old

1073
01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:45,990
hack and a washed up Vijay.
That's usually what people say

1074
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:47,550
about our last names but yeah,

1075
01:03:49,140 --> 01:03:54,300
yeah. And the observation that a
knighthood from the Queen would

1076
01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:58,440
be better. Oh, good news is they
did agree to listen to this

1077
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,730
episode. I'd like to sign
honorary titles of Sheriff and

1078
01:04:02,730 --> 01:04:09,630
magistrate to my sons, Alex and
Eric. Done. Okay, it felt good

1079
01:04:09,630 --> 01:04:14,790
to have my son see see let's see
a life lesson in integrity by

1080
01:04:15,090 --> 01:04:18,600
seeing me support your value for
value model. I wrote a book on

1081
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,780
the subject of value for value
but that's for another episode.

1082
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:25,530
If they want to read it I want
to read it now. I'm curious look

1083
01:04:25,530 --> 01:04:25,680
him

1084
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,150
up he's probably on go to Amazon
Amazon. Look up bull burn. Yes.

1085
01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:35,550
if the rules allow I would like
to be knighted. Sir James Bond

1086
01:04:35,550 --> 01:04:41,400
of episode one double oh seven.
Nice. Overseeing the territory

1087
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,750
of North Korea.

1088
01:04:44,820 --> 01:04:47,520
Is that on my list of do I have
to add this in manually? I think

1089
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,480
I have to add it in manually.

1090
01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:51,180
But North Korea No no, no,

1091
01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:56,820
this this title. Let me just
see. Roger, what was what will

1092
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:57,840
his name be again?

1093
01:04:58,140 --> 01:05:05,160
Sir James Bond of episode one
double oh seven. Okay. Adam,

1094
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,850
please inform your uncle, he may
begin dealing with me directly.

1095
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:14,460
There has been recent cancer
diagnosis for my sister and dad,

1096
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:19,410
I would like to request some F
cancer karma to reset the recent

1097
01:05:19,410 --> 01:05:22,470
bad luck for myself and my
family. More demands from the

1098
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:25,860
Barony later, maybe lunch in
Austin or in some neutral

1099
01:05:25,860 --> 01:05:28,110
territory, obviously not
California.

1100
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:34,050
I'm all in private meetup. And I
want to I, this sounds like a

1101
01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:35,220
very interesting guy.

1102
01:05:35,610 --> 01:05:39,060
Yeah, he's got the value from he
probably has some research that

1103
01:05:39,060 --> 01:05:41,640
we don't know. And we've done we
have a lot of research that

1104
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,980
we've done to for our value for
value model so we can make it

1105
01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:45,330
work even though it didn't work
in this

1106
01:05:45,330 --> 01:05:51,090
show. Holy crap. This guy, this
guy has written some books. It's

1107
01:05:51,090 --> 01:05:53,760
okay. Well, if this is the guy,
let me see.

1108
01:05:54,570 --> 01:05:57,090
Yeah, probably she really
depends on what the subject is.

1109
01:05:57,990 --> 01:06:00,030
Personal currency the future of
money.

1110
01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:04,080
Could be that could be him.

1111
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:09,630
See, I don't see anything. Well,
maybe maybe that's maybe that's

1112
01:06:09,630 --> 01:06:12,990
in the maybe the value for value
was in that book?

1113
01:06:13,529 --> 01:06:17,339
And is Roger, right. Yeah. Roger
called unusual spelling. So it's

1114
01:06:17,339 --> 01:06:18,809
probably not too many people.

1115
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,200
Okay, well, good. I want to read
his book. Fantastic. Thank you

1116
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,030
very much. So he needs F cancer
karma.

1117
01:06:27,450 --> 01:06:28,380
Yep, right here.

1118
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,420
Got karma and thank you very
much. I look forward to your

1119
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:37,380
ceremony coming up.

1120
01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:45,180
This still okay, we got Morgan
corkle Corkhill 250 bucks,

1121
01:06:45,180 --> 01:06:47,550
you'll be our Associate
Executive Producer one of four

1122
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:51,600
showed one double oh seven. This
donation will cast me into a sea

1123
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,190
of Knighthood and in this cess
pit of sensibility since since a

1124
01:06:56,220 --> 01:07:00,150
boldness sensible bonus, I wish
to be referred to as Sir Captain

1125
01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:04,020
Morgan and requested Captain
Morgan and morale morally

1126
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:08,790
questionable women at the
ceremony. I'm a bit behind in my

1127
01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:13,830
show watching. So are we because
we don't watch the show but

1128
01:07:13,830 --> 01:07:17,070
okay, but heard something of a
few shows ago and I was

1129
01:07:17,070 --> 01:07:20,130
wondering if anyone else heard
it as I did. It was a short clip

1130
01:07:20,130 --> 01:07:25,830
where a vegan was talking about
why a vegan would not eat

1131
01:07:25,830 --> 01:07:30,450
cheese. He said it was cow rape.
Yes. And the farmer would stick

1132
01:07:30,450 --> 01:07:34,440
his hand up to cow's ass and
fertilize the cows. Not sure

1133
01:07:34,890 --> 01:07:37,800
about this, but I think he got
it wrong. I got the wrong whole.

1134
01:07:38,730 --> 01:07:42,180
Guess he can't be blamed for
being malnourished by the vegan

1135
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:45,360
diet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't
stick it up the cow's ass.

1136
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:50,580
That's funny. technicality
didn't catch that.

1137
01:07:50,610 --> 01:07:54,180
No, it's Well, I I wasn't really
thinking about it that deeply.

1138
01:07:56,370 --> 01:07:59,310
You know, Jay was no nothing, I

1139
01:07:59,310 --> 01:08:02,730
guess. Oh, so he wants Captain
Morgans. And what else does he

1140
01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:03,210
want?

1141
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,340
Questionable women with
questionable morals. With good

1142
01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:11,130
moral women. Make it easier or
suitable.

1143
01:08:11,310 --> 01:08:13,980
Oh, this is happening again.
Dammit.

1144
01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:18,419
But your thing's going out
again. Yeah. I think you better

1145
01:08:18,419 --> 01:08:19,589
have your tubes checked.

1146
01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:24,630
Well, what happens is you just
stopped tape. No, I haven't

1147
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:28,380
stopped tape. I can You can
continue while i is just the

1148
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:32,130
jingles will be problematic.
It's just USB is rebooting or

1149
01:08:32,130 --> 01:08:33,960
something. I don't know.
Windows.

1150
01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:37,860
J Well, you're the one that went
over there. You know those

1151
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:41,010
dapple guys would love to take
you back. Jamie Christiansen and

1152
01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:47,370
Johnston, New York. 20 $14.63.
And he sends a note in by email.

1153
01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:49,950
Oh, and by the way, here's the
jingles. You're gonna have to

1154
01:08:49,950 --> 01:08:54,360
queue up. Slaves can eat mac and
cheese living in the mac and

1155
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,720
cheese life. We and a goat
farmer

1156
01:08:57,779 --> 01:09:02,639
I have a feeling you missed a
whole bunch of Morgan Corkhill

1157
01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:05,789
jingles if I'm not mistaken. Oh,
I don't want to come up on my

1158
01:09:05,789 --> 01:09:09,209
screen. Well, it's in the in
it's on the thing.

1159
01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:12,930
Not on mine. I'm clicking on it
trying to expand. It's been a

1160
01:09:12,930 --> 01:09:13,170
couple

1161
01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:16,140
of years since my last donation
so I think I deserve de douching

1162
01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:19,050
we'll let you decide. I also
humbly request Donald loves

1163
01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:22,110
Nazis as it totally cracks me up
and karma if you want to.

1164
01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:26,370
I can't bring that up. Well,
hold on. Let me try something

1165
01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:30,600
here. We go into the file and go
into nope, nope, nope, nope.

1166
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,130
Nope, will not will not expand.
And I'm using the new Microsoft

1167
01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:35,700
Excel.

1168
01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:39,150
Well, you've really got to work
on that because this has been a

1169
01:09:39,150 --> 01:09:41,070
problem for about five years.

1170
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,680
I just don't think I could do if
it wasn't what am I supposed to

1171
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:44,910
do? What am I supposed to do?

1172
01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:47,910
I don't know why why how do I
have no problem seeing the

1173
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:49,080
spreadsheet ever?

1174
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:55,650
The I have no idea. I looking at
it now. I can't get it. I don't

1175
01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:56,970
dance with vegan diet.

1176
01:09:57,660 --> 01:09:59,160
Well, let me give him his D
douching.

1177
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:09,390
As Ben de deuced Donald loves
Nazis. Donald loves Nazis. CNN

1178
01:10:09,390 --> 01:10:13,560
say that he's PKK having shot
sic hell with it. Wow.

1179
01:10:15,599 --> 01:10:17,279
You've got karma.

1180
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,200
Now, you're there to back it up.
So not worried about that. What

1181
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,850
were these other jingles for the
next one.

1182
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:28,260
The next one is our slaves can
eat mac and cheese. Live in the

1183
01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:33,000
mac and cheese life. We and the
goat scream karma.

1184
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:37,410
Okay. Was there any other note
to

1185
01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:40,290
it? Yes, I got a whole note
here. Okay, go for it. Just

1186
01:10:40,290 --> 01:10:44,550
giving you the jingles up front
like you want. For Mr. Jamie of

1187
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:47,820
the highway rolling through
paradox New York ITM Jensen's,

1188
01:10:47,820 --> 01:10:51,840
I'm over. I'm in over the road
truck driver who has been

1189
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,290
listening for nearly five years
and only now am I financially

1190
01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:59,100
able to support the best podcast
in the universe. This donation

1191
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:06,600
of 20 $14.63 represents my
birthdate. So two to 14. We had

1192
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,800
to put her on the birthday last
Yes. Even though she requested

1193
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,580
for this, which has to do to 14
requests, my birth date and

1194
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:19,290
celebration of completing 55
trips around the sun. this

1195
01:11:19,290 --> 01:11:25,680
coming Wednesday. Wow. Wow,
that's a lot of driving. Do you

1196
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,120
think about it? For jingles I'd
like a double helping a Mac. I

1197
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,000
guess if you're driving cross
country and you're cross country

1198
01:11:33,150 --> 01:11:37,710
and you just constantly on the
road. You put a lot of miles up

1199
01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:43,500
55 nautical miles to do five
trips around the sun. Virginia

1200
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:47,520
was like a double helping of mac
and cheese. We and some good DX

1201
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,330
karma for all the hams out
there. All righty she's a she's

1202
01:11:51,330 --> 01:11:51,870
a ham.

1203
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:53,550
Oh, what's your what's your call
sign?

1204
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:59,970
I'm looking at here she's an
avid she's a while. Yeah, while

1205
01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:01,710
73 for Miss Jamie

1206
01:12:01,710 --> 01:12:04,440
73 Alpha Charlie Charlie.

1207
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,580
No, here it is November three
echo Oscar Papa mobile. All

1208
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:13,380
right. Your slaves get used to
Macintosh Macintosh mac and

1209
01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:17,730
cheese macaroni and cheese
shatter melted together mac and

1210
01:12:17,730 --> 01:12:19,950
cheese mac and cheese mac and
cheese.

1211
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:34,740
Mac and cheese mac and cheese by
ein Rand. You've got karma okay.

1212
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:40,770
Next, Charles Schultz came in as
a check in Madison, Alabama. And

1213
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:44,850
there is an email that came in
transcript transparently and in

1214
01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:48,180
parallel. I just scheduled a
bank check to be sent to your

1215
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:51,780
post office boxes represents 10%
of my first Social Security

1216
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:56,580
quote unquote check. Like a good
Slave I waited till my full

1217
01:12:56,580 --> 01:13:00,000
retirement age to claim my
Social Security benefit. So I

1218
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,730
can continue to work full time
and collect my entitlement

1219
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,210
without a reduction in the
payment. I guess I consider it a

1220
01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:10,770
phased retirement since I'll be
able to since I'll be able to

1221
01:13:10,770 --> 01:13:14,940
back off on the amount of
overtime and the side hustles

1222
01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:18,540
I've been working for years.
This payment to the show is long

1223
01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:22,050
overdue since Pay Pal randomly
killed off my $5 per month

1224
01:13:22,170 --> 01:13:29,760
payment years ago. Please de
douche me. You've been de deuced

1225
01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:32,850
and a dose of karma wouldn't
help he says

1226
01:13:33,629 --> 01:13:36,089
Okay, anything else would just
go for the karma that's it.

1227
01:13:36,779 --> 01:13:37,679
Otherwise they would have read
through

1228
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:43,650
your you've got karma. And
that's Chuck Schultz cave for CA

1229
01:13:43,650 --> 01:13:48,060
Why 70 threes? We have a lot of
ham hams baby it's the hams You

1230
01:13:48,060 --> 01:13:56,580
betcha the hams are saving the
show. Edie love booty Yay 200

1231
01:13:56,580 --> 01:14:00,300
bucks and is appears to be no
jingles no comment but he does

1232
01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:05,280
say Be My Valentine. Ah. Now we
did have a special offer that

1233
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,190
nobody took up on which is to
get your name in the newsletter

1234
01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:12,690
is calling out your partner
lover wife, husband, whatever.

1235
01:14:13,650 --> 01:14:17,910
For as as your Valentine. And
nobody picked up on this and I

1236
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:20,820
thought about this. Because it
was like I thought it was a good

1237
01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:24,450
idea. It was a good gimmick
people give 200 This and that is

1238
01:14:24,450 --> 01:14:27,810
not like completely outrageous.
I'm going to reintroduce it

1239
01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:30,000
again on Tuesday before
Wednesday, but I don't know if

1240
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:34,080
it's going to help. I concluded
that it was my write up on the

1241
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,430
newsletter. That was the
problem. Okay, what happened? I

1242
01:14:38,430 --> 01:14:42,540
think it was confusing. Poorly
sold. I think it was done

1243
01:14:42,540 --> 01:14:44,880
poorly. I should have put more
of the information at the top

1244
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,870
not not after explaining the
whole damn thing. It was very

1245
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:51,750
poorly done. I think people who
like to study the newsletter for

1246
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:54,930
its sales attributes because
there's a sales pitch in there

1247
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,250
every newsletter, but sometimes
it's strong sometimes it's weak

1248
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,970
and See how poorly then this was
it was just poorly done it was

1249
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:06,390
reminded me of the more recent
poorly done newsletter where I

1250
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:10,620
confused people about the double
your you know, you get to

1251
01:15:10,650 --> 01:15:13,890
executive producer credits and
some people including the chef's

1252
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,060
thought that it

1253
01:15:15,060 --> 01:15:18,540
might get me out there was all
kinds of crap with that. Yeah,

1254
01:15:18,930 --> 01:15:21,240
so I'm now I'm concerned. Yes.

1255
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,740
I know you took a beat 12 this
morning, so that can't be it.

1256
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,760
I don't know. They just had me
losing my time. Have

1257
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,800
you been socializing with the
strange people?

1258
01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:35,520
Well, I socialize with the two
liberals that are just mine.

1259
01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:38,700
Yeah, well if you're if you're
if you're flame texting with

1260
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:42,360
them that kind of thrown your
game off man.

1261
01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:47,130
Trying to think that I do that
before after the note. See, I

1262
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:49,950
don't know I did. Well, I don't
have a timeline. So I don't

1263
01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:53,280
know. Well, I knew I feel
disappointed. Yeah, nobody

1264
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,070
cares. You know, but didn't know
of apparently nobody has any

1265
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:57,420
love in their life if they
wanted it.

1266
01:15:57,450 --> 01:16:01,110
I personally although Yeah, the
newsletter I thought was a bit

1267
01:16:01,110 --> 01:16:01,560
weak.

1268
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,240
Thank you. So it was a good
idea. You said this was a very

1269
01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:10,530
it was a good idea. But yeah,
when I when I saw it come

1270
01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:13,020
through you know because I only
get the text beforehand. I don't

1271
01:16:13,020 --> 01:16:17,550
get the full the full thing. So
maybe it was laid out but I

1272
01:16:17,550 --> 01:16:21,660
think the issue is last puts
that we need to ride on

1273
01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:25,170
something like a Valentine's
Day. You know, we need the

1274
01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:30,330
mainstream to kind of that is a
way we can ride and they don't

1275
01:16:30,330 --> 01:16:34,320
really crank it up until until
tomorrow. And you know it's it's

1276
01:16:34,350 --> 01:16:38,100
no one's thinking really about
Valentine's Day yet. On Saturday

1277
01:16:38,130 --> 01:16:39,720
when the newsletter comes out.
Maybe

1278
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,060
you might be right but it's
Valentine's Day is Wednesday and

1279
01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:45,630
our next shows on Thursday in
the no no but you know I think

1280
01:16:45,630 --> 01:16:48,450
it's a maybe it's a kids thing
you know, you know Valentine's

1281
01:16:48,450 --> 01:16:50,850
Day you can select a little boy
you know, if you're a girl,

1282
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:53,400
little girl, you shouldn't get a
Valentine from her. She feels

1283
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:53,790
bad.

1284
01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:58,290
It was a year old man's job, but
still. Yo man's job. Yo, man.

1285
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,540
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, man, Yo,
man.

1286
01:17:01,710 --> 01:17:06,240
Well, anyway, I feel the was
like a fail customer. Hashtag

1287
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,180
fail. But you have some funny
pictures in there, including

1288
01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:12,840
that one from Saudi Arabia. And
I want to mention since since

1289
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,750
that was I put a little note at
the bottom saying Can anyone

1290
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:19,350
verify this and somebody indeed
verified it that that is legit.

1291
01:17:20,130 --> 01:17:24,270
That in McDonald's? In Saudi
Arabia, women are allowed.

1292
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,630
Please, no women? No women in
the

1293
01:17:27,630 --> 01:17:28,530
McDonald's bet

1294
01:17:28,530 --> 01:17:31,650
your 10 bucks your your service
dog can go in but no women?

1295
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,950
Yeah. Well, this is a part of
our this is our value for value

1296
01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:42,240
model, which works reasonably
well. And the idea that you can

1297
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,910
monetize the network is
something I've said is just

1298
01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:48,390
really not possible. And boy, in
a prom in our second donation

1299
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:51,990
segment, we should talk about
it. Well, maybe we should do it

1300
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:52,740
in the second one.

1301
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,320
Well, we should do a little bit
but I want to make sure that if

1302
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,660
you put a note down, we have to
talk about the Newsweek

1303
01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:58,470
situation. That's

1304
01:17:58,470 --> 01:18:00,360
what I'm going to talk about in
the second segment. That's

1305
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,620
exactly what I said. I'm not a
psychic. I can read your mind as

1306
01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:05,250
well, since you

1307
01:18:05,250 --> 01:18:07,740
and I had an email thing about
it. I figured maybe you'd be

1308
01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:08,340
psychic.

1309
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,810
Yeah, well, not that I can
remember doing that. So

1310
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:15,960
but but I do want to know
because we have all these

1311
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:21,240
interesting things like karma, F
cancer, karma, jobs, karma. And

1312
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,670
there's something about the the
no agenda community and the

1313
01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:27,930
value for value model that
struck me really hard. While

1314
01:18:27,930 --> 01:18:31,170
reading this book by a guy named
Joe Han Hari, it's called Lost

1315
01:18:31,170 --> 01:18:34,860
connections, uncovering the real
causes of depression and the

1316
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:38,490
unexpected solutions. This is a
fascinating book, which you get

1317
01:18:38,490 --> 01:18:41,220
pressed? No. Which are you?

1318
01:18:41,670 --> 01:18:42,600
No, no, be

1319
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,410
sure because you you do exhibit
some of the symptoms. So yeah,

1320
01:18:46,410 --> 01:18:50,490
like what? Well, look, if you
read the book, and I will

1321
01:18:50,490 --> 01:18:52,770
definitely I want to tell you a
little bit about it. Because

1322
01:18:52,770 --> 01:18:55,890
what this guy gave me a summary.
If you stop interrupting me, I

1323
01:18:55,890 --> 01:19:01,770
shall good. This guy went to as
many researchers who had done

1324
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:04,290
studies about depression as you
could because he had suffered

1325
01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:07,920
from depression. And what he
found as and this is why he

1326
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,760
wrote this book, is it's no
surprise to us in the no agenda

1327
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,200
thinking that SSRIs you know,
these are the, the serotonin

1328
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,190
inhibitors. This is all the is
it Prozac as an SSRI as well,

1329
01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:23,760
was that the belief so mack
daddy of them all. But all these

1330
01:19:23,790 --> 01:19:27,960
all these different medications?
If you if you do the FOIA

1331
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,600
requests, and you really see the
studies, of course, you know,

1332
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,760
there's 500 500 studies, studies
498 are not published, although

1333
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,180
they do have to give them to the
FDA. But the two successful ones

1334
01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:42,150
that say, oh, you know, people
who have depression the best,

1335
01:19:42,180 --> 01:19:46,110
it's it works, it's perfect, and
then it gets on the market. And

1336
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:49,620
there's a lot of studies that
found this, there'll be no

1337
01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:55,320
surprise that it really, you
know, people are given a placebo

1338
01:19:55,350 --> 01:19:58,290
don't see much less of an
improvement over people who

1339
01:19:58,290 --> 01:20:02,340
receive the drug. I mean, really
like, like 1%, it's really,

1340
01:20:02,340 --> 01:20:06,630
really low. And the story and
this is this is what fascinated

1341
01:20:06,630 --> 01:20:10,110
me is that he had been roped
into SSRIs, which he wound up

1342
01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:15,810
taking for 14 years, the story
is that you have a chemical

1343
01:20:15,810 --> 01:20:19,170
imbalance in your brain. And
that's how they've been sold.

1344
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,700
Although I didn't know this,
there is zero study anywhere

1345
01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:26,880
that says, depression comes from
a chemical imbalance in the

1346
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,390
brain. If you look at someone
who's depressed, you do a scan,

1347
01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:32,190
you're gonna see something
different than someone who is

1348
01:20:32,190 --> 01:20:38,490
not depressed. But that is a
symptom, not the cause. So he

1349
01:20:38,490 --> 01:20:41,160
went back to try and find out
what is really the cause of

1350
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,500
depression. And it's a whole
bunch of things that very

1351
01:20:43,530 --> 01:20:47,130
obvious, but no one has ever
stopped to ask people, why are

1352
01:20:47,130 --> 01:20:50,310
you depressed? Are you
depressed, this SSRI will help

1353
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,520
you, which it does temporarily
takes away a little bit of that

1354
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,180
feeling. But then, you know, the
depression creeps up, they upped

1355
01:20:57,180 --> 01:20:59,880
the dosage. And that's how you
just stay on the ladder for the

1356
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,700
rest of your life until it ends
up usually it winds out pretty

1357
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:07,260
badly for people. But as he goes
through it, it turns out that a

1358
01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:10,650
lot of depression comes from the
lifestyle that we have today.

1359
01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:16,590
And what humans apparently
really need is connection. And

1360
01:21:16,620 --> 01:21:20,340
social media plays right into
this. But it's really, it's

1361
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:26,070
fake. It's not a real, it's not
a real connection. Which it does

1362
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:30,090
gives people incredible
endorphins, and all the stuff,

1363
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,570
all the stuff, you need to feel
very happy when you're part of a

1364
01:21:33,570 --> 01:21:36,690
community like the no agenda
community. But it only works.

1365
01:21:36,690 --> 01:21:38,460
And this is why I bring this up.
And I'm sure we'll be talking

1366
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:41,520
about this book more in the
future. It only works if you

1367
01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:46,830
also have in person contact. We
are built for it. We're geared

1368
01:21:46,830 --> 01:21:50,760
for it, it's necessary. And I am
committing now we've talked

1369
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:56,100
about this, but I am committing
to do meetups regularly. And it

1370
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:59,340
shows that the no agenda
community do meetups without us,

1371
01:21:59,700 --> 01:22:04,800
they get together because they
need it. We all need it. So bear

1372
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:05,190
that isn't

1373
01:22:05,190 --> 01:22:07,560
good meetups is a good meters
because you have people that

1374
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:12,420
have been kind of broken away
from the pack.

1375
01:22:12,810 --> 01:22:17,730
Totally, and who are who are
either healthy or desperately

1376
01:22:17,730 --> 01:22:21,300
want to be healthy. Because
today's life is anything. But

1377
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,120
again, this book, it's just
really nicely worded. There's

1378
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,690
nothing that we don't know of,
because obviously advertising is

1379
01:22:27,690 --> 01:22:30,000
geared to let you know that
you're a loser. Unless you drink

1380
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,250
this beer you'll never get laid.
If you don't have that car,

1381
01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:35,880
you're just a dumb shit. These
days, they even make the men

1382
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,570
look like dumb shits in the
commercials on purpose. So it's

1383
01:22:39,570 --> 01:22:43,320
meant to scare you into it. And
if you are human, and this is a

1384
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,730
big thing that really hit me. If
you're in a job that doesn't

1385
01:22:47,730 --> 01:22:50,880
really do anything for you
doesn't excite you is just a job

1386
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:52,950
to make money, you're gonna get
depressed if you aren't

1387
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:54,030
depressed already.

1388
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:57,870
And now if you like making
money, well, people

1389
01:22:57,870 --> 01:23:00,930
who like making money are the
most depressed. Well, they are

1390
01:23:00,930 --> 01:23:04,170
the most they are the most
depressed because you cannot

1391
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,220
trick your human psyche into
feeling happy just because you

1392
01:23:08,220 --> 01:23:11,010
made more money. That's the
materialistic ego and it doesn't

1393
01:23:11,010 --> 01:23:16,470
work. But anyway, meet up coming
in Austin very soon. So Texas

1394
01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:20,100
and all surrounding states. Be
ready because not only do you

1395
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:23,400
need it, I need it too. So we
need some personal connection.

1396
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,290
And you're going out for more
meetups to John.

1397
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,500
Yeah, I got a berry meetup
coming up, probably do another

1398
01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:31,050
one in LA. Like to do a Seattle
meetup.

1399
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,140
We have an idea to and I asked
you to pick a date, which you

1400
01:23:34,140 --> 01:23:37,830
haven't done yet. We'll pick a
date. We're going to do a meet

1401
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:41,550
up in Austin. And we're going to
connect that meet up with your

1402
01:23:41,550 --> 01:23:44,820
Meetup. So we'll do it on the
same day, more or less the same

1403
01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:45,480
time dudes

1404
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,150
name band, and we're gonna play
some big screens and have two

1405
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:50,580
cameras on each meetup and
you'll be kind of a joint

1406
01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:51,210
meetup. Yeah.

1407
01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:55,980
Yeah. And we could even do more
if we wanted. Like, what? Well,

1408
01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:59,550
we can have more people with
their meetups connecting Oh,

1409
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:03,420
yeah, maybe? Well, let's do the
one first, and then we can start

1410
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:06,300
it. I started with that. If we
even get that done. Anyway, the

1411
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:06,600
book is

1412
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,260
called Lost connections. It's,
it's on Kindle. I think.

1413
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:14,460
It's like it's condemning the
social media, if

1414
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:19,800
that's part of what it does. But
when you read this, I realized

1415
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,400
once again, it's no wonder I
love my job, because it doesn't

1416
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,310
feel like a job. And as long as
I can pay the rent and eat, I

1417
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:33,030
really don't care. I know you
may feel differently. You may be

1418
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:33,930
a little more depressed

1419
01:24:34,019 --> 01:24:36,569
than me. Why not? I'm not
depressed. Why would you say I'm

1420
01:24:36,569 --> 01:24:41,309
depressed? Do I sound depressed?
Do I sound depressed? Once you

1421
01:24:41,309 --> 01:24:44,219
wrap this because if you do
mention eating, I have a whole I

1422
01:24:44,219 --> 01:24:45,539
have three clips on eating.

1423
01:24:45,780 --> 01:24:48,270
I would like to thank everybody
who came in today as an

1424
01:24:48,510 --> 01:24:52,110
Associate Executive Producer and
our instant Baron big executive

1425
01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:55,680
producer, single standing line
we will be thinking more people

1426
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,350
and talking more about
advertising, which doesn't seem

1427
01:24:58,350 --> 01:25:00,960
to work as well versus our
modeling. In our second segment,

1428
01:25:01,170 --> 01:25:04,560
and please remember another show
coming up on Thursday. VO

1429
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:09,900
req.org/n A and you have four
days in the meantime to go out

1430
01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:12,450
there talk to everybody
propagate the formula. Our

1431
01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:31,680
formula is this we go out we hit
people in the mouth all right.

1432
01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:37,260
That was woman it was on C span
I'm looking for stuff that you

1433
01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:39,960
once while you get the book TV
is very interesting on C span

1434
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,930
because you get these authors,
and they pretty much give you

1435
01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:46,440
the book. I mean, this they
summarize their own book and

1436
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,350
it's like very interesting. So
this woman comes on I didn't I

1437
01:25:49,380 --> 01:25:52,560
wasn't planning on watching
this. I just caught it. And

1438
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,860
she's reading from her book on
eating and her name is Rebecca

1439
01:25:55,860 --> 01:26:04,080
hearse hertz, he r z and she is
an expert on eating. And I'm

1440
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,050
gonna just play get three clips
to play one is this the end of

1441
01:26:07,050 --> 01:26:09,360
her reading about the book where
she got a round of applause and

1442
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,510
she says reading from her book
is not as entertaining but as

1443
01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:18,600
she's talking about how you can
use smells. To do dieting, by if

1444
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,730
you're getting like an urge to
eat or you're really hungry or

1445
01:26:20,730 --> 01:26:23,100
something you tick you smell
something that has nothing to do

1446
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:29,820
with food, like crayons or she'd
like to use methyl acetate

1447
01:26:29,820 --> 01:26:30,600
personally always

1448
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,720
so that can deter you from
eating or or make you eat or

1449
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:34,500
either way No, no,

1450
01:26:34,530 --> 01:26:38,490
that deters you in vanilla makes
you eat more if you smell that,

1451
01:26:38,970 --> 01:26:42,510
uh, but generally speaking,
smelling something that's not

1452
01:26:42,510 --> 01:26:47,610
food related, that is memorable
smell will take your brain and

1453
01:26:47,610 --> 01:26:50,400
scrambles it is not on a yoga
and when we think about this,

1454
01:26:50,460 --> 01:26:53,910
you'd lose your appetite. Oh
interesting. It's too short. It

1455
01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:56,400
doesn't last forever, but it's
something you can do to trick

1456
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,270
yourself into not eating when
you get the munchies. So that's

1457
01:27:00,270 --> 01:27:03,750
the this is the this clip is
hertz this is her summary

1458
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:05,520
reading from the book and that
gets interesting.

1459
01:27:07,050 --> 01:27:10,110
Odors trigger our most emotional
and evocative memories.

1460
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,320
Therefore the most effective way
to use them as a diet aide is to

1461
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,410
find an aroma or several which
not only distracts you from

1462
01:27:16,410 --> 01:27:19,620
thoughts of donuts, but triggers
personal memories potent enough

1463
01:27:19,620 --> 01:27:21,900
to disrupt what you were
thinking about donuts or

1464
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:26,040
otherwise. aromas that take you
want to trip down memory lane or

1465
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,380
transport you back to a moment
when you are especially

1466
01:27:28,380 --> 01:27:31,890
fulfilled or inspire you with
feelings of confidence can rent

1467
01:27:31,890 --> 01:27:34,530
you from your cravings while
also delivering a punch of

1468
01:27:34,530 --> 01:27:37,620
positive emotion that may give
you the fortitude to move beyond

1469
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:41,670
your unbidden food desires. The
key is to find the aromas that

1470
01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:45,540
are a particularly evocative for
you. As due to our unique

1471
01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:48,780
experiences the sense connected
to the most motivating memories

1472
01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:52,500
are different for everyone. Once
you found aromas that carry you

1473
01:27:52,500 --> 01:27:55,530
to special moments in time, or
uplift you with invigorating

1474
01:27:55,530 --> 01:27:58,410
emotions, try inhaling one when
a craving that you want to

1475
01:27:58,410 --> 01:28:02,460
dispel hits, even after the
intensity of the memory and

1476
01:28:02,460 --> 01:28:05,850
feeling fades. Now that you've
reoriented yourself mentally,

1477
01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:08,850
you're craving should be
diminished, so that you can get

1478
01:28:08,850 --> 01:28:10,770
on with what you were doing
without succumbing to

1479
01:28:10,770 --> 01:28:15,000
temptation, at least for a
little while. odors and tastes

1480
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:18,180
are extremely powerful sensory
forces, and they guide and in

1481
01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:20,940
shape our experiences with food
and life in a multitude of

1482
01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:24,270
extraordinary ways. But there
are also many other sensory and

1483
01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,480
psychological factors that play
a pivotal role in whether we

1484
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:31,110
reach for a burger or a banana
and how much we eat when we do

1485
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:35,490
know that sounds plausible?
Yeah, the author she's the book

1486
01:28:35,490 --> 01:28:39,840
of the book is why you eat what
you eat. And she is very

1487
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,230
interesting.

1488
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:43,560
I have the munchies. That's why
I know

1489
01:28:43,890 --> 01:28:47,520
so but when the question and
answers came up, it became I

1490
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:52,650
thought a lot more fascinating
because there was more specifics

1491
01:28:52,650 --> 01:28:55,560
and she talked about some
research. So let's I have two

1492
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,980
more clips and this is the one
this is the loud noises and

1493
01:28:58,980 --> 01:29:00,510
sweet flavors clip

1494
01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:04,020
their giant oven somewhere that
are invisible but in fact there

1495
01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:07,920
aren't so actually Cinnabon is a
classic example. Their aroma

1496
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,010
cinnamon is extremely intense
and alluring. And there's no one

1497
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:15,000
baking cinnamon buns anywhere
nearby. And a bunch of coffee

1498
01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:18,690
establishments often will do the
same kind of tricks, restaurants

1499
01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:21,630
as well. If there's like an
Italian restaurant, often

1500
01:29:21,630 --> 01:29:24,630
they'll pipe out sort of
garlicky aromas. And this is to

1501
01:29:24,630 --> 01:29:27,630
lure people in by their noses.
Because often even when we're

1502
01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:29,790
not hungry, if we smell
something that's really

1503
01:29:29,790 --> 01:29:32,790
appetizing, it will not only
make us want to eat but make us

1504
01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:36,900
want to eat that specific food.
So yes, there is food marketing

1505
01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:41,400
in that way that's being done.
And to a certain extent. There's

1506
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,800
also things that restaurants I
think, don't realize that

1507
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,470
they're doing which have
counterproductive effects on

1508
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:49,320
eating especially the more
expensive restaurants and trendy

1509
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,710
restaurants which is playing
really loud music. And even

1510
01:29:52,710 --> 01:29:55,860
though that might be cool, that
actually has a detrimental

1511
01:29:55,860 --> 01:29:59,130
effect on your experience of
eating for two reasons. One

1512
01:29:59,130 --> 01:30:02,310
because really Loud music and
especially really fast music

1513
01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:04,830
makes you eat more quickly, it
makes you want to leave more

1514
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:08,070
quickly so that you're not, you
know, getting the full enjoyment

1515
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:11,130
of the meal. And another thing
actually has to do with the fact

1516
01:30:11,130 --> 01:30:15,030
that loud noise, in fact,
influences our ability to taste.

1517
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,720
And this is why on airplanes,
food never tastes very good even

1518
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,110
when you're in first class. And
that's because out loud ambient

1519
01:30:22,110 --> 01:30:26,520
noise actually affects the one
of the cranial nerves that's

1520
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,730
involved in our ability to taste
foods. So the chorda tympani

1521
01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:32,280
nerve, which is the cranial
nerve involved in hearing is

1522
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,340
actually also involved in taste
perception, and really loud

1523
01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:39,630
noise which is activating that
has a dampening effect on sweet

1524
01:30:39,630 --> 01:30:43,740
taste and salty taste to taste
that we'd like a lot. So you

1525
01:30:43,740 --> 01:30:46,860
know, whatever you're eating,
when it's really loud, like the

1526
01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:50,070
80 to 90 decibel rumble on an
aeroplane is going to taste less

1527
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:53,160
sweet and less salty, and so
less good. It doesn't however,

1528
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,130
affect bitterness. So the
grapefruit that you get in your

1529
01:30:56,130 --> 01:31:00,180
morning transcontinental flight
is, is really bitter and doesn't

1530
01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:02,370
have any of the sweetness or
doesn't have as much of the

1531
01:31:02,370 --> 01:31:05,670
sweetness as you would have
gotten otherwise. So loud noise

1532
01:31:05,670 --> 01:31:08,070
and restaurants. Like I said,
even I don't think restaurants

1533
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:11,580
realize this has a detrimental
impact on diners experiences.

1534
01:31:11,850 --> 01:31:15,390
I didn't know that. I didn't
know it either. But it makes

1535
01:31:15,390 --> 01:31:20,400
sense when the way she explains
it. Yeah. And I've always found

1536
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,150
that really loud places, I don't
like to go there. I don't like

1537
01:31:24,150 --> 01:31:26,820
to go to loud memory restaurants
that are so loud, you can hear

1538
01:31:26,820 --> 01:31:29,100
the other person talk. Yeah,

1539
01:31:29,130 --> 01:31:32,190
we went to when we were in
Chicago over Christmas, he went

1540
01:31:32,190 --> 01:31:35,790
to a steak house and the music
was just a little too loud. And

1541
01:31:35,790 --> 01:31:41,910
then, and it was also kind of
70s 80s music, which is odd for

1542
01:31:41,910 --> 01:31:45,690
this type of place. And it
detract from the experience for

1543
01:31:45,690 --> 01:31:46,050
sure.

1544
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,220
Ya know what they're thinking.
And here's the last one, which I

1545
01:31:50,220 --> 01:31:52,920
thought was another thing that
we should all note.

1546
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,390
Are there like different
patterns or desires? With food

1547
01:31:57,390 --> 01:31:59,880
intake? If you were like, say
eating alone, or eating like at

1548
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,680
the dinner table with a group of
people, and you're in a

1549
01:32:01,860 --> 01:32:03,720
speaker's conversation or
something like that?

1550
01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:06,990
Yeah, absolutely. In fact, the
number of people you with

1551
01:32:07,020 --> 01:32:11,400
exponentially influences how
much you consume. And so eating

1552
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,460
with just one other person
increases, how much one eat if

1553
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:16,920
you're eating with six other
people, it's much, much more

1554
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,410
than that. Even eating with
strangers makes you eat more

1555
01:32:19,410 --> 01:32:21,660
than when you're by yourself,
although not to the same extent.

1556
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:24,570
And there's another factor which
you also mentioned in your

1557
01:32:24,570 --> 01:32:26,760
question, which is that what
you're doing with those other

1558
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:30,450
people talking vigorously, being
excited, and if you're

1559
01:32:30,450 --> 01:32:32,820
especially if it's something
that you're celebrating, that

1560
01:32:32,820 --> 01:32:36,060
also encourages more eating, and
if food is also in front of you

1561
01:32:36,060 --> 01:32:39,570
for longer than you, you know,
Keep on reaching into it. And

1562
01:32:39,570 --> 01:32:43,470
another really interesting thing
is if you don't see the discard

1563
01:32:43,470 --> 01:32:46,590
from your food, so let's say you
went to a bar with your friends

1564
01:32:46,590 --> 01:32:50,070
after a softball game, and
you're ordering nachos and

1565
01:32:50,070 --> 01:32:53,220
chicken wings, and this and
that. And the server is

1566
01:32:53,220 --> 01:32:56,580
continuously clearing the table
so that you don't see how much

1567
01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:59,220
you've consumed. You'll keep
ordering, you know, another

1568
01:32:59,220 --> 01:33:02,610
round or chicken wings over
here. If you see the bones

1569
01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:06,600
piling, you're more likely to
say, Oh, my goodness, hold on a

1570
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,270
second. So there's definitely
the social environment has a

1571
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:09,690
really big

1572
01:33:09,690 --> 01:33:14,190
impact. Okay, you always learn
something on the no agenda show.

1573
01:33:14,220 --> 01:33:17,430
Well, I'll add to that, from
that. Rub that what was the name

1574
01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:18,000
of her book?

1575
01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,950
Uh, why we eat? Why you eat what
you eat.

1576
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:29,970
So loss connections, was looking
into obesity. And there was in

1577
01:33:29,970 --> 01:33:32,400
the study, it's great to start.
I looked a couple of them up

1578
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,200
there, you know, yes, footnotes
and everything. These are

1579
01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:38,850
studies that have been funded
properly and done. And they

1580
01:33:38,850 --> 01:33:42,150
wanted to see well, what if you
just like a political prisoner

1581
01:33:42,150 --> 01:33:45,180
who goes on a hunger strike?
What if you just have people not

1582
01:33:45,180 --> 01:33:47,310
eat but you give them the
nutrients they need? So you

1583
01:33:47,310 --> 01:33:50,100
know, enough vitamin C's that
don't die of scurvy and all this

1584
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:54,570
other stuff. And this one study
was done with I think, 400

1585
01:33:54,570 --> 01:33:59,730
people who were around 400
pounds obese. P imagine that

1586
01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:04,320
room. And so they they did
exactly that. And they were able

1587
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,190
to take people from 400 pounds
to 150 pounds in about four

1588
01:34:08,190 --> 01:34:13,200
months. But once they were done,
within three weeks, they'd be

1589
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,410
eating so much. They were 250
pounds, and they just rocketed

1590
01:34:16,410 --> 01:34:19,710
back up to 400. And they said
well, why? Why is this

1591
01:34:19,710 --> 01:34:22,500
happening? It obviously is the
intake of food, the amount of

1592
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:28,980
food Ed and no one had done
this. 60% of all the obese

1593
01:34:28,980 --> 01:34:32,850
people in this study had been
sexually abused as a child. And

1594
01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:35,610
the number one way to protect
yourself is to make yourself

1595
01:34:35,610 --> 01:34:42,870
unattractive. 60% John, that's
crazy. That's been under

1596
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:46,200
40%. That word narrower, still
fat. You had to deal with them.

1597
01:34:48,180 --> 01:34:51,870
I'm not sure what she has. She
has a discussion about this. She

1598
01:34:51,870 --> 01:34:58,320
says it's an hour talking about
the 40% not the abused. She says

1599
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:03,840
that everybody has a Some,
there's some study that talks

1600
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,480
about you get there's a middle
ground where you, you're going

1601
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:10,320
to gravitate toward this weight
and size. If you go over, you

1602
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,830
gravitate back down, if you go
under you gravitate back up. And

1603
01:35:13,980 --> 01:35:17,940
there are some people that are
just big. Sure. And there is

1604
01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:19,170
Texas by the way.

1605
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,360
Well, we eat entire cows at a
time. We eat we eat a lot.

1606
01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:30,240
The I felt there was something
in there. Yeah. I'll read that

1607
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,090
book. Mr. Good. So in other
words, if you're going to going

1608
01:35:33,090 --> 01:35:36,300
to be in first class, and you're
going to get good food, you get

1609
01:35:36,300 --> 01:35:41,100
the caviar, you get the the good
wine. cognacs. Put those

1610
01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:41,610
headphones

1611
01:35:41,610 --> 01:35:44,610
on. Yeah, you gotta have the
noise cancelling headphones.

1612
01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:47,010
Yeah, you put those on and Fudo
tastes a lot better.

1613
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,670
I'm gonna try. That's an easy
experiment to try at home. Yeah.

1614
01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:53,790
Well, just when I thought the
pipeline wars were over, they

1615
01:35:53,790 --> 01:35:57,960
pulled me back in. Yeah, we're
at war once again, now in Syria.

1616
01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:04,470
At a very interesting spot where
we have bombed back. That is

1617
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:10,950
what the term I've heard us mom
back the Syrian army. Now it's

1618
01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:14,400
it's a spot where the old
pipeline would cross. You know,

1619
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,570
we still have the competing
pipelines, the Qatari pipeline,

1620
01:36:18,570 --> 01:36:20,910
which is supposed to go up and
regionally to Turkey, but it may

1621
01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:26,160
go into Greece, and we still
have the the Iran, Iran, Iraq,

1622
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:30,300
Syria pipeline, and that's part
of what this is. But just a

1623
01:36:30,300 --> 01:36:37,470
backgrounder. On February 2,
Associated Press reporting. The

1624
01:36:37,470 --> 01:36:42,450
United States has no evidence to
confirm reports from aid groups

1625
01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:44,850
and others that the Syrian
government has used deadly

1626
01:36:44,850 --> 01:36:48,990
chemical sarin on its citizens.
This is Mattis, Mad Dog, quote,

1627
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:51,570
we have other reports from the
battlefield from people who

1628
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:57,690
claim it's been used. We do not
have evidence of it by but, but

1629
01:36:58,260 --> 01:37:02,100
just a couple days later, good
old Heather, they're in the

1630
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:02,850
State Department.

1631
01:37:03,030 --> 01:37:05,670
The Secretary recently talked
about this. And let me just

1632
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:08,400
underscore and highlight some of
the important things that we

1633
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,360
would like to see take place
with regard to Russia, as it

1634
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,830
pertains to Syria. They need to
stop using chemical weapons

1635
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:21,420
Syria does but we also know that
chemical weapons use is enabled

1636
01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:27,180
by Russia. They need to support
a new mandate. Like we know

1637
01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:31,170
it's just a fact we know
chemical weapons are enabled by

1638
01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:34,290
Russia. I'm not sure what it
means. Does that mean they're

1639
01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:36,030
giving them to them then they're
looking at

1640
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,810
the Russians helped take those
weapons out? Do we actually

1641
01:37:39,810 --> 01:37:41,100
there was a disposed of them

1642
01:37:41,130 --> 01:37:45,030
well, apparently, even though
there's no evidence according to

1643
01:37:45,060 --> 01:37:46,950
Mad Dog, the state disarmed

1644
01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:49,920
Mad Dog says there's no evidence
we on this show have pointed out

1645
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,040
study after study that showed
that one attack not the most

1646
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,370
recent one, but the last one, or
the one that earlier that was

1647
01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:59,790
attributed during the Obama
administration. Yeah, that one

1648
01:37:59,790 --> 01:38:02,550
was shown to be bold crap,
because missiles went too far

1649
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:04,860
the wrong kind of missiles is
the wrong kind. Again,

1650
01:38:04,890 --> 01:38:10,110
they tested chemical weapons in
the UK. This is why Obama didn't

1651
01:38:10,140 --> 01:38:13,380
attack. And once he got the
report, it's like, oh, shit,

1652
01:38:13,380 --> 01:38:15,900
that's not theirs. You remember
that?

1653
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,370
Yeah, I do remember that. And it
was like it became a problem

1654
01:38:20,370 --> 01:38:22,740
because he didn't attack he
didn't attack right. Because the

1655
01:38:22,740 --> 01:38:25,800
world order the Neo cons and
everybody that's all war.

1656
01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:27,450
Hungry. Well,

1657
01:38:27,450 --> 01:38:29,670
they're back. They're back was
finished. Just listen to

1658
01:38:29,670 --> 01:38:34,950
Heather's she, she This is a PR
job of epic proportions. You'll

1659
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:40,380
hear her. She even breaks her
her typical cadence to really

1660
01:38:40,380 --> 01:38:43,350
add some emotional emphasis to
how horrible this is

1661
01:38:43,380 --> 01:38:47,190
Syria does. But we also know
that chemical weapons use is

1662
01:38:47,190 --> 01:38:52,770
enabled by Russia. They need to
support a new mandate, like the

1663
01:38:52,770 --> 01:38:57,600
jam the JM which has been foiled
multiple times. And the UN

1664
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,510
Security Council, Secretary
Tillerson and we talked about

1665
01:39:00,510 --> 01:39:04,140
this the other day, took part in
the Paris signing of a new

1666
01:39:04,170 --> 01:39:07,650
entity that's been set up by the
French with I believe it's 25

1667
01:39:07,950 --> 01:39:11,160
other governments who care about
having an Investigative

1668
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,790
Mechanism put in place so that
we can prevent the use of

1669
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:18,540
chemical weapons against
civilians. Let me remind you six

1670
01:39:18,570 --> 01:39:22,710
times in the last 30 days, some
form of chemical weapons have

1671
01:39:22,710 --> 01:39:26,670
been used on the Syrian people.
It's disgusting. It's horrific,

1672
01:39:26,670 --> 01:39:29,760
and it's evil. And we would like
to see that stop, but we'll keep

1673
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,000
following this will keep working
on it. The government is meeting

1674
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,460
I have to assure you that this
is a top issue for us. Yeah,

1675
01:39:35,460 --> 01:39:35,580
it's

1676
01:39:35,580 --> 01:39:40,530
a top issue. And she's promoting
this because we need a cover for

1677
01:39:40,530 --> 01:39:44,910
the war that we're now starting,
or just continuing or whatever

1678
01:39:44,910 --> 01:39:48,600
it is. And there's a lot of
issues in this region. We know

1679
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,080
that we now have as we talked
about pool maybe five years ago

1680
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:57,150
now, there's a dispute about the
Leviathan oil fields, the gas

1681
01:39:57,150 --> 01:40:02,220
field, Israel says it's theirs
now Leben On is saying, ya know,

1682
01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:05,460
that's it's part of it's ours,
you know, whose is it really? So

1683
01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:11,340
there's trouble there. But the
Golan Heights, the Golan

1684
01:40:11,340 --> 01:40:17,250
Heights, this is the region that
lies right in between Syria and

1685
01:40:17,250 --> 01:40:20,730
Israel. This is occupied
territory, Israel claim that

1686
01:40:20,730 --> 01:40:29,760
after the 67, Six Day War, and
in 2015, you will never guess

1687
01:40:29,790 --> 01:40:35,250
but they discovered this may
have the largest largest oil

1688
01:40:35,250 --> 01:40:39,570
field underneath it larger than
what Saudi Arabia can tap into.

1689
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:45,330
That's pretty big. I don't know
anything about the numbers that

1690
01:40:45,330 --> 01:40:49,890
they're saying here about the
Strada and whatever it is, but

1691
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:55,620
this is disputed territory. And
I'm sure the Russians do not

1692
01:40:55,620 --> 01:41:00,600
want Israel and America to get
that.

1693
01:41:01,050 --> 01:41:05,100
You know, I want to mention
something. Heather would not be

1694
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:10,920
getting away with this if gay on
chichi Khan, or any Russian in

1695
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,860
that room that used to be in the
room during the Obama

1696
01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:17,070
administration, grilling them
anytime they brought up Russia

1697
01:41:17,070 --> 01:41:20,070
or blaming Russia for something
that's not verified or provable?

1698
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:20,400
Yep.

1699
01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:24,360
Yeah, you're right. You're
right. This is very weak.

1700
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:28,800
They've kicked all those people
out. Though there is a company

1701
01:41:28,830 --> 01:41:33,600
that has the drilling rights,
that company is called ethic A F

1702
01:41:33,630 --> 01:41:42,060
E. C, it is a no. Believe me, I
check. It is a subsidiary of

1703
01:41:42,090 --> 01:41:44,520
Genie, oil and gas.

1704
01:41:45,210 --> 01:41:48,420
And is that public? Um,

1705
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,150
I don't know. Let me see. I
don't believe so.

1706
01:41:51,510 --> 01:41:53,730
Let me just check. Somebody's
gotta be public.

1707
01:41:54,870 --> 01:42:02,040
Yes, je E G, H, E, N E. That's
their symbol. Good. If you want

1708
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,280
to look it up. Gne. I'm gonna do
that right now. Okay, this will

1709
01:42:05,310 --> 01:42:08,430
this now depending on how the
war goes? It'll be long or

1710
01:42:08,430 --> 01:42:10,050
short. We're not really sure
yet.

1711
01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:12,540
Well, that probably won't be a
short because usually these

1712
01:42:12,540 --> 01:42:15,450
companies aren't that short,
double, they just would just do

1713
01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:17,370
it. They just stay where they
were, they're not going to go

1714
01:42:17,370 --> 01:42:20,430
down unless they've already
unless they've skyrocketed well

1715
01:42:20,430 --> 01:42:21,210
to know about when I

1716
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,090
when I read the following names
to you, you'll want to go along.

1717
01:42:24,660 --> 01:42:28,350
Now a reminder that our our
Secretary of State who Heather

1718
01:42:28,350 --> 01:42:32,820
works for is Rex Tillerson, he's
an oil guy. So you know i

1719
01:42:32,850 --> 01:42:37,560
There's no doubt about in my
mind where once again we the we

1720
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,370
send in the US melon military
known as the United States

1721
01:42:41,580 --> 01:42:44,970
mineral extraction unit to be
send them in kill everybody

1722
01:42:44,970 --> 01:42:48,600
around and we protect it all so
that we can go and drill this

1723
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:53,640
strategic advisory board of
Genie oil and gas. You ready?

1724
01:42:54,780 --> 01:42:56,040
For dollars a share?

1725
01:42:56,670 --> 01:42:57,960
All steel?

1726
01:42:59,130 --> 01:43:01,440
Well, you don't know that could
go broke tomorrow. And then we

1727
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:01,830
go on.

1728
01:43:02,940 --> 01:43:08,400
On the strategic advisory board.
Dick Cheney. nuber Rupert

1729
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:15,330
Murdoch. Yep. Bill Richardson.
James are our James Woolsey,

1730
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:21,030
former CIA director, Dr.
Lawrence Summers. And then my

1731
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:25,410
favorite Jacob Rothschild. Oh my
god, the trifecta.

1732
01:43:27,060 --> 01:43:29,790
More than a trifecta. Quadra
effect, yes.

1733
01:43:30,810 --> 01:43:34,770
So that's the fact that's what
this is about. And they're going

1734
01:43:34,770 --> 01:43:38,130
to call and we're going to use
the cover of their use. We need

1735
01:43:38,130 --> 01:43:42,690
that knew that we needed a gym,
which was the joint what does

1736
01:43:42,690 --> 01:43:48,450
that the joint investigation? Ma
I forget what it's gonna have it

1737
01:43:48,450 --> 01:43:52,860
here. So at Joint Investigative
Mechanism, which was which was

1738
01:43:52,860 --> 01:43:55,710
blown up a couple of years ago,
the Russians said screw this. We

1739
01:43:55,710 --> 01:44:00,210
don't want to be they vetoed it.
It's so un thing, which no one

1740
01:44:00,210 --> 01:44:02,310
really cares, but they're just
looking for cover. They're

1741
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:06,990
looking for cover. And that's
what this is about. It's just

1742
01:44:06,990 --> 01:44:11,790
extracting resources from
arguably stolen land or disputed

1743
01:44:11,790 --> 01:44:14,850
land. Let's put it that way.
It's disputed, disputed,

1744
01:44:14,910 --> 01:44:15,870
disputed.

1745
01:44:16,380 --> 01:44:18,600
But you when you visit Israel,
they'll tell you that there's

1746
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,240
good reasons for it. But you
know, you'll be floating around

1747
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,640
the cities and they pointed the
Golan Heights to say see you up

1748
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,940
there they can be bombing us
from up there. It's up in the

1749
01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:30,240
air, you know, you can throw
rocks ago mile.

1750
01:44:31,470 --> 01:44:39,360
Anyway, anyways, disappointed by
this behavior. And more. More

1751
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,090
disappointed. There's no one the
State Department who stands up

1752
01:44:42,090 --> 01:44:47,100
like you said guy on TwitchCon
and says, Hey, what has

1753
01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:53,190
nothing to do with your story?
Now, let's play action over

1754
01:44:53,190 --> 01:44:55,680
Syria. This is the Saturday
report from yesterday and what's

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01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:02,340
good this is from PBS. Looking
forward, back exit. Got it.

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01:45:02,669 --> 01:45:05,369
Good evening, and thanks for
joining us conflict in the skies

1757
01:45:05,369 --> 01:45:08,129
over Syria and Israel this
evening, following the most

1758
01:45:08,129 --> 01:45:11,639
serious skirmishes between the
two countries since 2011. Right

1759
01:45:11,639 --> 01:45:15,419
now two Israeli pilots are being
treated for injuries after Syria

1760
01:45:15,419 --> 01:45:19,019
shot down their F 16. They were
striking what Israel says are

1761
01:45:19,019 --> 01:45:23,159
Iranian air bases within Syria.
But today's violence began after

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01:45:23,159 --> 01:45:26,909
Israel shot down an Iranian
drone, which entered Israeli

1763
01:45:26,939 --> 01:45:32,069
airspace from Syria. and Israeli
military spokesman warned Iran

1764
01:45:32,099 --> 01:45:35,189
is dragging the region into an
adventure in which it doesn't

1765
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:36,539
know how it will end

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01:45:37,229 --> 01:45:41,249
towards Iran now. Okay, good.
We're back to the west part. So

1767
01:45:41,250 --> 01:45:43,680
you know, now it's very
suspicious because of you this

1768
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,310
the day went on with the store
with some woman who's with the

1769
01:45:47,310 --> 01:45:50,700
biggest blue eyes have ever seen
shouldn't be English girl. And

1770
01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:56,070
she was doing a remote on Skype.
And normally, I would play at

1771
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:59,670
least some of it. If you don't
mind, the whole thing sounding

1772
01:45:59,670 --> 01:46:02,760
like this is too harsh. I know.
It's rough. And so I wasn't

1773
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,250
gonna play it. And she went on
to discuss it. There was a

1774
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:10,800
second strike. That first the
first strike was against Iranian

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01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:16,650
drone base. Yeah. And the second
strike was another Iranian drone

1776
01:46:16,650 --> 01:46:19,890
base. And that's what got my
attention, which is, why would

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01:46:19,890 --> 01:46:26,400
they have two drone bases in
Syria that needed to be bombed?

1778
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,860
Do they? I doubt it.

1779
01:46:28,890 --> 01:46:31,620
I mean, are they talking about
little drones? There's a dude

1780
01:46:31,620 --> 01:46:33,630
with a remote control on the
ground. And all of a sudden,

1781
01:46:33,630 --> 01:46:33,750
he's

1782
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,810
talking about drone bases, which
means they're talking about big

1783
01:46:36,810 --> 01:46:40,350
drones, the big boys? That's my
guess. I mean, it could be

1784
01:46:40,350 --> 01:46:44,040
bullshit. But where was where
was the drone shot down? We

1785
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,130
don't know is it shot down over
Golan Heights? That's, you know,

1786
01:46:47,130 --> 01:46:50,370
they just scoping out the area
that is got the oil that you say

1787
01:46:50,370 --> 01:46:54,510
is there could be that somebody
says is there or and then where

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01:46:54,510 --> 01:46:56,760
they bomb in the edge of the
pipelines? We're gonna go I

1789
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,150
mean, this whole thing with that
information, the new information

1790
01:47:00,150 --> 01:47:01,920
that was said that you're
putting in a different light,

1791
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,590
doesn't it? It puts everything
in a different light. And now we

1792
01:47:04,590 --> 01:47:07,560
have to look at it from that
perspective, skeptical and

1793
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:08,700
doesn't help. I was

1794
01:47:08,700 --> 01:47:11,310
very dissatisfied with my
military contacts. I said, Well,

1795
01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:15,510
why are we why are we bombing
the Syrians? And what I got back

1796
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:20,790
was, they came too close. And,
and by the way, it's funny

1797
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:24,570
because ISIS is actually in the,
in the no man's land in between

1798
01:47:24,810 --> 01:47:28,110
the Assyrians and us. So
they're, they're basically

1799
01:47:28,110 --> 01:47:31,530
caught in the hellfire. But, you
know, it was like, they got too

1800
01:47:31,530 --> 01:47:34,860
close. I got into my buying it
that. I don't like your answer.

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01:47:36,060 --> 01:47:37,080
This is the answer.

1802
01:47:37,290 --> 01:47:41,250
Well, without anybody asking
strong questions in the State

1803
01:47:41,250 --> 01:47:45,300
Department briefing, we'll never
find out. Which is why you need

1804
01:47:45,300 --> 01:47:48,600
our tea in there. And the fact
that it's not been discussed

1805
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,820
that we don't have any Russians,
I don't know. Maybe there is a

1806
01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:54,420
Russian or they're not saying
anything. But usually we would

1807
01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:59,610
have a Russian or even Matt.
Yep. Stop them at this because

1808
01:47:59,610 --> 01:48:02,700
you can't say what she said was
was the usual stuff that Matt

1809
01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:07,500
usually stops and to, which is
we know, the Russians are doing

1810
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:12,540
this. Well, how do we know that?
And of course, you'd have to say

1811
01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:14,880
the Russian investigation with
Trump is also part of this

1812
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,750
smokescreen. So we're dealing
with a smokescreen here. A big

1813
01:48:18,750 --> 01:48:21,840
one, as usual? Well, it's
because a lot of money's

1814
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:27,660
involved. Jacob Rothschild, wow.
I mean, you can do you ever see

1815
01:48:27,660 --> 01:48:31,500
that video of the kid who goes
up to Russia? Because Rothschild

1816
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:35,250
well, when? When he's in his
garden? No, no, he's Roman, or

1817
01:48:35,250 --> 01:48:39,030
he just left a meeting Ana, and
he's roaming around the streets

1818
01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:42,360
is roaming, because a lot of
these rich guys are like that.

1819
01:48:43,470 --> 01:48:45,720
Because you don't know what they
look like. They just don't feel

1820
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:49,080
very comfortable just roaming
around your body Guards, guards

1821
01:48:49,110 --> 01:48:53,850
body, God's God's God. And so
he's roaming around his guy

1822
01:48:53,850 --> 01:48:56,460
caught basically a costume
started grilling him about the

1823
01:48:56,460 --> 01:49:02,520
Illuminati. Know what the kids
talking about? Yeah, he does.

1824
01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:04,620
Think so. Yeah.

1825
01:49:06,570 --> 01:49:08,310
Victoria Kagan Nudelman.

1826
01:49:09,540 --> 01:49:12,120
That's right, everybody we've
been looking for she has emerged

1827
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:16,890
as the CEO of a top warmongering
Think Tank, Victoria Kagan

1828
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:23,190
Nudelman. She's reappearing on
the scene now as the CEO of what

1829
01:49:23,190 --> 01:49:24,360
does that outfit called again?

1830
01:49:24,570 --> 01:49:28,740
This is she just a PR woman. Now
she's the CEO. Well,

1831
01:49:28,740 --> 01:49:32,670
she's the one that works. She's
the wife of and she was an

1832
01:49:32,670 --> 01:49:38,400
ambassador, come on, you know,
she was the Deputy Secretary of

1833
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,000
State.

1834
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:42,960
Well, she started off as a PR
woman, how did she get to there

1835
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,490
even Well, alright, so the
problem

1836
01:49:44,490 --> 01:49:49,170
started off as a builder of
slums. And I mean, come on, kind

1837
01:49:49,170 --> 01:49:53,880
of question is that it's a good
one. It's the Center for a New

1838
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:58,200
American Security. So I've heard
of these ones war mongering

1839
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,070
Think Tank, pretty much I'd like
to remind you

1840
01:50:02,220 --> 01:50:04,800
who else is in that group.
There's a whole bunch of creeps

1841
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:04,920
in.

1842
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:09,780
Yeah, we went through the list.
I can tell you now, what does it

1843
01:50:09,780 --> 01:50:15,960
Center for American Security
Center for American security?

1844
01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:20,970
Let's see why, man. She's
looking a little rough. Vicki.

1845
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:22,740
I don't think she's a happy
camper.

1846
01:50:23,519 --> 01:50:29,909
No, probably not. Okay, let's
say c n a s.org. C. NASS. And

1847
01:50:29,909 --> 01:50:32,699
let's see if we can find about I
think I've read this list

1848
01:50:32,699 --> 01:50:36,599
previously, people, board of
advisors. Let's see,

1849
01:50:36,630 --> 01:50:39,690
she looks like she just doesn't
look good. If she looks like

1850
01:50:39,690 --> 01:50:40,800
William Shatner.

1851
01:50:45,390 --> 01:50:48,060
There's a lot of insults you can
give out but

1852
01:50:49,650 --> 01:50:53,070
my shadow is fine. But he's at I
mean, you know, he's, you know,

1853
01:50:53,070 --> 01:50:53,610
puffy.

1854
01:50:53,849 --> 01:50:57,389
So the board of advisors is not
it's not easy. It's just all

1855
01:50:57,389 --> 01:50:59,639
military people, as far as I can
see them see on the board of

1856
01:50:59,639 --> 01:51:08,189
directors, Armitage course.
Lieberman Johnson, James

1857
01:51:08,189 --> 01:51:10,739
Murdoch, those guys spread out
the Murdochs, don't they?

1858
01:51:12,929 --> 01:51:15,869
Actually, it's a military
outfit. Anyway, she was

1859
01:51:15,869 --> 01:51:20,009
interviewed by political one of
her best friends who works at

1860
01:51:20,009 --> 01:51:28,049
political left that out of it.
Let's remember what she said. In

1861
01:51:28,049 --> 01:51:31,469
that tape telephone conversation
that the Russians released, we

1862
01:51:31,469 --> 01:51:35,129
believe it was the Russians.
This is where the way I recall

1863
01:51:35,129 --> 01:51:41,159
it. We went in saying the
Russians are trying to screw up

1864
01:51:41,159 --> 01:51:43,979
the elections are trying to take
over the place we gotta go in

1865
01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:47,879
and we got to rig the elections.
And we're gonna put our guys in,

1866
01:51:48,119 --> 01:51:52,079
and this was caught on tape. And
the Russians published that. And

1867
01:51:52,079 --> 01:51:54,449
here's a copy of the damning
parts. Remember,

1868
01:51:54,450 --> 01:51:57,720
if I told you this, or if I only
told Washington this that when I

1869
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,440
talked to Jeff Feltman this
morning, he had a new name for

1870
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:05,280
the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I
read that this morning? Yeah, I

1871
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:10,290
saw that. He's now gotten both
celery and Bong Ki Moon to agree

1872
01:52:10,290 --> 01:52:15,060
that celery could come in Monday
or Tuesday. Okay. So that would

1873
01:52:15,060 --> 01:52:18,360
be great, I think to help glue
this thing and have the UN help

1874
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,060
glue it. And, you know, fuck the
EU,

1875
01:52:21,630 --> 01:52:24,270
though. Exactly. And I think
we've got to do something to

1876
01:52:24,270 --> 01:52:27,120
make it stick together. Because
you can be pretty sure that if

1877
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,330
it does, if it does start to
gain altitude, the Russians will

1878
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,970
be working behind the scenes to
try to torpedo it.

1879
01:52:33,390 --> 01:52:37,200
Okay, so I think that kind of
backs up our theory. And if you

1880
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,060
listen to the whole
conversation, they're talking

1881
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:42,420
about the boxer, we got to get
in him, but we got to put them

1882
01:52:42,420 --> 01:52:46,080
in the background because he's
really no good. You recall these

1883
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:46,200
they

1884
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,990
picked the leaders, they picked
the mayor.

1885
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,960
I mean, we just let's just be
honest about it. We picked him.

1886
01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:54,810
And we were fighting, fighting
the Russians, and we were

1887
01:52:54,810 --> 01:52:58,260
meddling in someone else's
elections to an extreme, I might

1888
01:52:58,260 --> 01:52:59,850
point out to an extreme where
hand

1889
01:52:59,850 --> 01:53:14,910
picking people laugh, and this
is what I'll say. You know, the

1890
01:53:14,910 --> 01:53:19,170
Russians must be beside
themselves, thinking that that

1891
01:53:19,380 --> 01:53:24,750
release of that tape would have
sunk her forever. And that she's

1892
01:53:24,750 --> 01:53:28,230
now vacuuming? Well, she's never
laughs She's always been in the

1893
01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:29,640
well, she actually mentioned

1894
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,510
that. So this is a it's a long
interview. I just picked out one

1895
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:36,210
piece about this particular
situation. Well, in

1896
01:53:36,210 --> 01:53:38,610
some ways, they've been quite
successful at doing that, not

1897
01:53:38,610 --> 01:53:42,900
only in the 2016 election
hacking, which, which, of

1898
01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:43,410
course, well,

1899
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:46,770
look, I let you know how much I
love that when people journos

1900
01:53:46,860 --> 01:53:50,460
just say the 2016 election
hacking. What is that supposed

1901
01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:53,580
to mean? That is, that is

1902
01:53:53,610 --> 01:53:59,430
horrible. It's a meme. But it's
it's a lie. It's a total lie.

1903
01:53:59,490 --> 01:54:01,470
And what hacking specifically?
Yeah,

1904
01:54:01,530 --> 01:54:04,140
well, in some ways, they've been
quite successful at doing that,

1905
01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:08,670
not only in the 2016 election
hacking, which, which, of

1906
01:54:08,670 --> 01:54:11,250
course, we'll we'll talk about,
but let's go back in time to

1907
01:54:11,250 --> 01:54:17,700
2014. Arguably, you were at the
leading edge of this, you were

1908
01:54:17,700 --> 01:54:20,640
being hacked before as before it
was fashionable, but,

1909
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:23,430
you know, now everything's
hacked. The

1910
01:54:23,519 --> 01:54:28,079
world was fashionable before
2014 By the way, yes, it wasn't

1911
01:54:28,079 --> 01:54:31,229
fashionable, but now it's
fashionable. Hello, whoa. But

1912
01:54:31,230 --> 01:54:34,320
what did you learn from that
incident? You know, let's talk

1913
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:38,730
about it. You're you're there in
Ukraine as this street

1914
01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:41,820
revolution, in fact, is is
unfolding around it and a pro

1915
01:54:42,090 --> 01:54:48,270
Russia regime ultimately is
replaced with a pro Western

1916
01:54:48,300 --> 01:54:53,040
regime. And you were taped.
Unbeknownst to you.

1917
01:54:53,070 --> 01:54:55,020
Well, I thought she was hacked,
but now she was taped,

1918
01:54:55,290 --> 01:54:59,790
talking with your colleague, the
US Ambassador Ukraine. So

1919
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:04,950
uh, Uh, I knew that this
movement that was going on in

1920
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:09,840
Ukraine, which remember was
about integrating with the EU as

1921
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,630
they wanted to join the EU. They
didn't even want to join the EU

1922
01:55:12,630 --> 01:55:16,290
they just wanted to be able to
trade and have have free was

1923
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:17,970
crap.

1924
01:55:20,940 --> 01:55:21,870
What was it about?

1925
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,070
They wanted to join the EU is a
big deal. In fact, it was the

1926
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:29,280
Russians who demanded that never
ever think about it. They said

1927
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,530
wait a minute, we want to join
the EU. It'd be cool.

1928
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,490
There was the whole ascension
thing it was it happened amongst

1929
01:55:35,490 --> 01:55:39,390
the myths of the Ukraine
shutting off Russian gas into

1930
01:55:39,390 --> 01:55:39,990
Euro they

1931
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:41,040
want to join the EU so

1932
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,660
they want it to be in the EU

1933
01:55:42,660 --> 01:55:44,430
Vicki that this

1934
01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:46,620
she knows she's a liar

1935
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:50,640
gets better what's going on in
Ukraine, which remember was

1936
01:55:50,670 --> 01:55:54,540
about integrating with the EU
was they wanted to join. They

1937
01:55:54,540 --> 01:55:57,120
didn't even want to join the EU.
They just wanted to be able to

1938
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:03,150
trade and have just tray so
threatening to the Putin

1939
01:56:03,150 --> 01:56:08,490
administration that they would
pull out a cold wallet worst

1940
01:56:08,490 --> 01:56:12,930
style dirty tricks. Not just
about me against me but of

1941
01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:16,170
course against the Ukrainians
and against others who supported

1942
01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:20,460
them. And that the the gloves
were coming out off and the

1943
01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:22,860
knife knives were coming out
that we were not going to have a

1944
01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:27,120
fair fight to allow folks to to
choose for themselves that this

1945
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,190
was going to be a real struggle.

1946
01:56:29,309 --> 01:56:31,559
So we had to meddle in their
elections pretty

1947
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,680
hostile act to you know,
publicly released this phone

1948
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,770
call which is inflammatory
hostile. We're saying if the EU,

1949
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:41,340
I'm sure that need for some fun
conversations with your your

1950
01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:43,260
fellow diplomats.

1951
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:47,880
So just to recap that moment,
what was going on was you know,

1952
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:53,010
we had had 200,000 protesters on
the streets of of the of

1953
01:56:53,010 --> 01:56:53,790
Ukraine. Yes,

1954
01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:55,440
we saw you handing out cookies.

1955
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:56,640
Yeah, my Dawn and

1956
01:56:57,180 --> 01:57:01,980
a second back and stop it back a
little bit. When she says this.

1957
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:06,570
Yeah, of course. This is Lisa,
Dr. Dan, that can spot her voice

1958
01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:10,830
interviewing her. And she's the
one with the big nose and the

1959
01:57:10,830 --> 01:57:14,010
one who's got Yes, some
connection to one of the donors

1960
01:57:14,010 --> 01:57:21,840
of the to the show. I mentioned
this before. Victoria says we

1961
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:26,790
Yes. As we had 200,000 people
yesterday. Yes.

1962
01:57:26,820 --> 01:57:32,520
Thank you. Remember we had Yeah,
because we organized it. We had

1963
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:36,780
two dozen. It wasn't they had to
do the Ukrainians had 2000

1964
01:57:36,780 --> 01:57:41,640
people but they it's we we had
200,000 here now that believable

1965
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,060
and check. Does Lisa say
anything about your usage? No.

1966
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:45,420
Because

1967
01:57:45,570 --> 01:57:48,240
well, I didn't, I should have
clipped the opening. It's like

1968
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,630
my good friend Victoria Nuland.
Liquid?

1969
01:57:53,310 --> 01:57:56,550
Al's Yes, you know, publicly
released this phone call, which

1970
01:57:56,550 --> 01:57:58,680
has this inflammatory moment
where you're saying after the

1971
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,790
EU, I'm sure that made for some
fun conversations with your your

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fellow diplomats.

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So just to recap that moment,
what was going on was, you know,

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we had had 200,000 protesters on
the streets of of the of Ukraine

1975
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:19,320
on the My Dawn and down in the
snow for two months, protesting

1976
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,920
that their leader was realigning
with Russia and not allowing

1977
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:27,000
them to integrate with the EU.
And there was no clear

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01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:31,950
constitutional way for them to
express their views through the

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01:58:31,950 --> 01:58:36,540
ballot box. So the we were
trying to form some kind of a

1980
01:58:37,020 --> 01:58:39,750
work with Ukrainians to form
some kind of technical.

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01:58:40,860 --> 01:58:43,680
Again, we and then she catches
herself. We're trying to work

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01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:44,430
with the Ukrainians.

1983
01:58:45,510 --> 01:58:48,660
about all the different
politicians who are in the mix

1984
01:58:48,660 --> 01:58:50,790
for this job, one of whom I saw
is going to be here in

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01:58:50,790 --> 01:58:51,300
Washington

1986
01:58:51,450 --> 01:58:53,610
this week, next week. Right, so
So essentially, what was

1987
01:58:53,610 --> 01:58:56,850
happening was we were trying to
help midwife between the

1988
01:58:56,850 --> 01:59:00,270
government and the opposition, a
coalition government. And we

1989
01:59:00,270 --> 01:59:04,440
were getting closer finally, and
and and Jana COVID, had finally

1990
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,310
offered the the opposition, some
slots in this government. But

1991
01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:11,070
the opposition wasn't going to
negotiate unless there wasn't a

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01:59:11,070 --> 01:59:14,340
neutral observer. And so we were
trying to get the EU to come in

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01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:16,470
and be that neutral observer.
And they were

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01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:19,020
How can you be neutral if part
of the argument is they want to

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01:59:19,020 --> 01:59:22,860
be in the EU? That's not
neutral, indecisive. And by the

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01:59:22,860 --> 01:59:25,830
way, that's bullshit because
they wanted to bring in the UN

1997
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,950
and the Dutch guy. That's what
they wanted to bring in to do

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01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:30,060
some negotiations.

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I remember that moment was about
to pass. So in my private

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conversation out of frustration,
it wasn't a you know, strategic

2001
01:59:37,530 --> 01:59:39,600
frustration. It was a tactical
frustration.

2002
01:59:40,350 --> 01:59:43,350
What is a tactical frustration
versus a strategic drive

2003
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:43,770
frustrating

2004
01:59:43,770 --> 01:59:48,510
as a brother? It's unbelievable
to even say that,

2005
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:49,710
what does it mean?

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01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:51,480
It doesn't mean anything.

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01:59:51,660 --> 01:59:54,990
What is it? Well, she's she's,
she's saying it like I should.

2008
01:59:55,170 --> 01:59:56,280
It wasn't as well maybe

2009
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,190
it means something to her
tactical frustration. That means

2010
01:59:59,190 --> 02:00:02,610
she was on fish. That means she
was frustrated on purpose.

2011
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:04,110
Yes, that's what I'm

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02:00:04,110 --> 02:00:07,650
thinking, the opposition, some
slots in this government. But

2013
02:00:07,650 --> 02:00:10,410
the opposition wasn't going to
negotiate unless there was an a

2014
02:00:10,410 --> 02:00:13,680
neutral observer. And so we were
trying to get the EU to come in

2015
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,820
and be that neutral observer,
and they were indecisive. And

2016
02:00:17,820 --> 02:00:21,840
the moment was about to pass. So
in my private conversation out

2017
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,020
of frustration, there wasn't a,
you know, strategic frustration.

2018
02:00:25,020 --> 02:00:29,100
It was a tactical frustration. I
use this barnyard epithet and

2019
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:31,710
say, let's use the UN as the
negotiator. And then of course,

2020
02:00:31,710 --> 02:00:38,070
the Russians tried to make that
an indictment of us of me too.

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02:00:38,850 --> 02:00:42,480
Because we were, frankly, being
too effective on the ground and

2022
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:44,730
they wanted to get us off the
boards. What's

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02:00:44,970 --> 02:00:47,250
what's interesting, right in
hindsight, well, a in hindsight,

2024
02:00:47,250 --> 02:00:50,070
it seemed kind of quaint, I
mean, frankly, Barnard epithet,

2025
02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:52,890
but now look at the, you know,
language we use in public now,

2026
02:00:53,340 --> 02:00:55,170
in our debates, but um, you
know,

2027
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:56,790
what is she talking about?

2028
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:01,290
Well, that, that, apparently, in
our debates these days, ever

2029
02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:04,110
since Donald Trump was
president, let's just dig at

2030
02:01:04,110 --> 02:01:07,590
him. We use the F word all the
time. I guess that's where she

2031
02:01:07,620 --> 02:01:10,290
was the last time you heard
Trump use the F word. Never.

2032
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:13,950
I've never heard it.

2033
02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:16,650
No, I've heard him use the S
word but not the F word.

2034
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:19,680
shithole. Yeah, round

2035
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,020
and they wanted to get us off
the boards with

2036
02:01:24,060 --> 02:01:25,950
Did you ever hear him actually
say

2037
02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:29,280
that? No, but I was. He has said
we should bomb the shit out of

2038
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:31,320
them. I've heard him say that.
Not the shithole. I've heard.

2039
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,080
Yeah, in hindsight. Well, a in
hindsight, it's you've kind of

2040
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:36,900
Queen I mean, frankly, sad. It's
a partner episode. But now look

2041
02:01:36,900 --> 02:01:39,900
at the, you know, language we
use in public now, in our

2042
02:01:39,900 --> 02:01:44,310
debasement, right, you know?
Yeah. No, you weren't you were.

2043
02:01:44,940 --> 02:01:45,570
But you know,

2044
02:01:45,690 --> 02:01:47,910
ahead of the curve. She was
ahead of the curve with the

2045
02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:48,360
effort.

2046
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,060
She's responsible for Trump.
That's right. We

2047
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:54,360
did we understand that that was
a pretty aggressive move by the

2048
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:56,880
Russians to that was pretty
aggressive at that moment in

2049
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:57,150
time.

2050
02:01:57,180 --> 02:01:59,250
Ya know, I certainly knew that
they were hearing the

2051
02:01:59,250 --> 02:02:00,330
conversation. And frankly, I

2052
02:02:00,330 --> 02:02:03,180
thought, Well, did you hear what
she says? I certainly knew they

2053
02:02:03,180 --> 02:02:05,820
were hearing the conversation.
Really. Now, Vicki,

2054
02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:07,320
I was almost again ahead of
time.

2055
02:02:07,350 --> 02:02:09,660
Yeah. No, you weren't you were
ahead of the curve. But you

2056
02:02:09,660 --> 02:02:12,570
know, did we? Did we understand
that that month was a pretty

2057
02:02:12,570 --> 02:02:15,810
aggressive move by the Russians
to that was pretty aggressive at

2058
02:02:15,810 --> 02:02:16,590
that moment in time?

2059
02:02:16,620 --> 02:02:18,690
Yeah. No, I certainly knew that
they were hearing the

2060
02:02:18,690 --> 02:02:21,150
conversation. And frankly, I
thought it was a matter of

2061
02:02:21,150 --> 02:02:22,710
transparency between us and them

2062
02:02:22,710 --> 02:02:24,060
right there. It we're fine with

2063
02:02:24,990 --> 02:02:27,330
midwife a coalition which might
have helped them.

2064
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:30,600
That's interesting. So now she's
claiming she knew they were

2065
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,330
listening. And she thought it
would be good if they heard what

2066
02:02:33,330 --> 02:02:37,110
she was trying to do. Because it
would also benefit the Russians,

2067
02:02:37,140 --> 02:02:39,960
that is now her story to do
unbelievable

2068
02:02:39,990 --> 02:02:43,290
it as well. But to but to
release it the way they did in

2069
02:02:43,290 --> 02:02:48,390
an effort to to embarrass us,
you know, perhaps get the

2070
02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:50,790
president to fire me or
whatever. That of course,

2071
02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:54,450
backfired. But that was only the
first that was elbow right at

2072
02:02:54,450 --> 02:02:57,300
it. And then later when the
State Department was hacked, and

2073
02:02:58,500 --> 02:03:03,270
and in 2015. So they really
began using these asymmetric

2074
02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:05,040
tools, a symmetric

2075
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:10,230
tools. No. Does that mean we
don't have the capability to

2076
02:03:10,230 --> 02:03:15,990
wiretap and publish it? Why is
that asymmetric? Asymmetric is

2077
02:03:16,050 --> 02:03:22,140
in my understanding used more
for terrorism, for the hotties

2078
02:03:22,140 --> 02:03:24,780
who come in. And they're
undercuts. Asymmetric

2079
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:29,670
means that the two sides have
differing powers. One has

2080
02:03:29,670 --> 02:03:32,880
massive power, and the other one
is like sniper. Yeah, it would

2081
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,570
be asymmetric, right? This is
not even it's not symmetric. So

2082
02:03:36,570 --> 02:03:38,190
I don't know what she's talking
about

2083
02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:42,270
the first that was elbow right
it and then later when the State

2084
02:03:42,270 --> 02:03:47,850
Department was hacked, and and
in 2015. So they really began

2085
02:03:47,850 --> 02:03:50,250
using these asymmetric tools
Hold on

2086
02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:54,060
a second stop. If it's if she's
gonna make the claim that as

2087
02:03:54,060 --> 02:03:56,250
asymmetric. That means the
Russians probably didn't hack

2088
02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:58,680
anything because they haven't
got the power. When you're using

2089
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,280
that term, which I think you
analyze correctly. That means

2090
02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:06,210
you're the weak partner. Yeah.
And you're using chickenshit

2091
02:04:06,210 --> 02:04:09,690
tactics. But you can't do much
more because you don't you

2092
02:04:09,690 --> 02:04:13,560
haven't really got is like, the
ISIS, they haven't got ships.

2093
02:04:13,710 --> 02:04:16,170
They haven't got jets, right.
They haven't got anything. They

2094
02:04:16,170 --> 02:04:21,450
got a bunch of stolen tanks,
right. And so there you make it

2095
02:04:21,450 --> 02:04:23,760
a solid to Russia, the Russians
have no capabilities that you

2096
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:27,480
have to use these chickenshit
tactics. And they didn't hack

2097
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,120
the DNC. But they did

2098
02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:33,330
hack something else. It and then
later when the State Department

2099
02:04:33,330 --> 02:04:39,360
was hacked, and and in 2015. So
they really began using these

2100
02:04:39,390 --> 02:04:43,110
asymmetric tools that they had
used on their own population

2101
02:04:43,110 --> 02:04:45,300
that they had used in Ukraine
that they'd used in Eastern

2102
02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:48,120
Europe. They began using them
very aggressively on us, right.

2103
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:48,330
So

2104
02:04:48,330 --> 02:04:51,240
that's what was new about the
incident with you is that it was

2105
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:55,050
taking this playbook, arguably
sort of a KGB playbook adapted

2106
02:04:55,050 --> 02:04:56,820
to a new technological era.

2107
02:04:57,180 --> 02:05:01,800
But this is baffling. Come to
me. And they're in agreement.

2108
02:05:02,070 --> 02:05:03,090
Like this is new.

2109
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,450
Right taking that playbook, and
they used it in their

2110
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:11,040
neighboring countries, correct?

2111
02:05:11,070 --> 02:05:13,890
Actually, you know, I should be
grateful that they used a tape

2112
02:05:13,890 --> 02:05:16,920
rather than polonium. Right.

2113
02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:20,910
Well, they also they didn't get
your email. Yes.

2114
02:05:23,340 --> 02:05:25,800
Well, we'll talk about that
another time.

2115
02:05:26,010 --> 02:05:28,290
Okay. We'll talk about your
emails.

2116
02:05:29,070 --> 02:05:33,420
So, needless to say, she doesn't
go back to the emails that

2117
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:36,780
Nudelman just said there that
they she admitted they someone

2118
02:05:37,050 --> 02:05:40,230
she would claim the Russians
hacked into her email, which we

2119
02:05:40,230 --> 02:05:45,000
have not heard of. This is a
huge scoop. Huge, and it and

2120
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:49,740
she's, she's flustered for a
moment. Yeah. He's got to go

2121
02:05:49,740 --> 02:05:53,610
back. She's flustered. And then
she said, well, we'll just talk

2122
02:05:53,610 --> 02:05:54,780
about that another time taking
that

2123
02:05:54,780 --> 02:05:58,350
playbook. And they used it in
their neighboring countries.

2124
02:05:58,350 --> 02:05:58,680
Correct?

2125
02:05:58,710 --> 02:06:01,500
Actually, you know, I should be
grateful that they used a tape

2126
02:06:01,500 --> 02:06:02,820
rather than polonium, right.

2127
02:06:04,050 --> 02:06:06,150
Well, that's right. They also
they didn't get your email.

2128
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:11,310
Well, we'll talk about that
another time.

2129
02:06:11,550 --> 02:06:13,830
Okay. We'll talk about your
emails.

2130
02:06:14,220 --> 02:06:17,220
No, and you don't because you're
friends with her and she gave

2131
02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:23,310
you the old ixnay on the email a
story a wink wink, wink, nudge

2132
02:06:23,310 --> 02:06:30,210
nudge. really despicable. So,
she's back.

2133
02:06:32,010 --> 02:06:34,740
Well, she's, she's a creep.

2134
02:06:35,850 --> 02:06:39,180
I'm gonna show my school by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

2135
02:06:39,180 --> 02:06:41,880
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2136
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:52,620
you know, I'm going to have to
figure out I had to do a lot of

2137
02:06:52,620 --> 02:06:57,990
work on with spreadsheets
because the spreadsheet that one

2138
02:06:57,990 --> 02:07:02,040
cell that wouldn't expand like
it does on the old on the,

2139
02:07:03,060 --> 02:07:08,730
whatever spreadsheet brand I was
using. It does go if you if you

2140
02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:12,150
keep expanding it manually, you
can see all that other stuff.

2141
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,120
But you can click on it and
click on it doesn't get any

2142
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:19,650
bigger. This other one, this red
one that comes from Nick s

2143
02:07:19,710 --> 02:07:23,970
$155.55 and Pell Mira,
Pennsylvania. He has a long

2144
02:07:23,970 --> 02:07:30,480
note. It's all here. Yeah. So
there's something Miss, I

2145
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:35,550
believe. Anyway, he's, he needs
some he's got something in here.

2146
02:07:35,550 --> 02:07:37,470
He's got to call out. Find it.

2147
02:07:37,530 --> 02:07:41,460
I see. He calls out the
following as douchebags Ricky

2148
02:07:43,170 --> 02:07:50,400
the next on list is Jason and
Sam. Yeah, douchebags.

2149
02:07:54,090 --> 02:07:59,130
Sir Zhaohua is anything else and
there we go. Okay, yeah, we get

2150
02:07:59,130 --> 02:08:04,290
some karma at the end, sir.
Zhaohua in Saskatchewan, Canada.

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02:08:04,290 --> 02:08:13,110
$123.45. Jeff Burritt Bereiche
beer ich in Queens Creek,

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Arizona. 123 45. Joe Jose Abreu.
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$100.70 Michael Smith in
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You can read these notes if
there's anything important.

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Anonymous. someplace in the
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buddy in Austin, Texas. Hey,

2157
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:44,790
Mark 100. Do John Adam blade
congrats for 1000 episodes of no

2158
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:48,180
agenda. Please keep going full
bore. Also, I'd like to ask for

2159
02:08:48,180 --> 02:08:50,610
some health karma. Well, of
course it's coming up, Mark. You

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bet.

2161
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Daniel Warren in Boise, Boise,
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little note there for me. I want
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Worth Texas

2166
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:14,280
and I'm glad we paused on this
because there's another birthday

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02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,560
that Eric didn't put on the
list. He's really slagging

2168
02:09:17,340 --> 02:09:21,960
slagging Yeah. What that means
well, he's sucking where's the

2169
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,390
birthday? Oh, that's right.
Yeah, I wished my handsome

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boyfriend sir gadget virtuous a
very happy birthday. Sir Brian

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02:11:01,410 --> 02:11:05,100
sustain the show. So consider
taking on a subscription to

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02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:09,990
vortec.org/na It is our value
for value model right after the

2194
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:14,340
knighting ceremony went talk a
bit about the advertising issue

2195
02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:18,120
online, which shows I think,
once again, that you are part of

2196
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:23,280
a very successful and very
modern experiment 10 years and

2197
02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:25,800
still going but I think we're
still in it's still an

2198
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:29,490
experiment. Would you agree?

2199
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:31,350
I would agree. 100%.

2200
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:36,720
But we're on the we're on we
were on to something for sure.

2201
02:11:36,810 --> 02:11:41,550
And it's not just the money.
It's the entire production. It's

2202
02:11:41,550 --> 02:11:47,250
the with no we have 1000s of
producers no news organization

2203
02:11:47,250 --> 02:11:51,990
has the sheer numbers and
knowledge that are no agenda

2204
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:55,890
community has no one has it?
It's just you know, it's imagine

2205
02:11:55,890 --> 02:12:00,060
that who has a Rolodex like that
in news with 1000 10,000 people

2206
02:12:00,060 --> 02:12:05,100
a wall of dudes named Ben, I
mean real skills, pilots,

2207
02:12:05,130 --> 02:12:10,560
dentists, doctors, lawyers, the
assistance of important people

2208
02:12:10,860 --> 02:12:15,030
who has that nobody has that. So
it is your show. It really truly

2209
02:12:15,030 --> 02:12:18,450
is. And we thank you for
participating in every way that

2210
02:12:18,450 --> 02:12:22,170
you do. Now, we had some Error
Corrections. And this was kind

2211
02:12:22,170 --> 02:12:25,050
of funny. We had the chef
donations from one double O

2212
02:12:25,050 --> 02:12:29,640
five. And the explanation is
even more confusing. It's great,

2213
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:33,900
but they do come through for us.
So it was Ali and Adam see

2214
02:12:33,900 --> 02:12:37,170
banks. There was some confusion
in last Sunday's donation

2215
02:12:37,170 --> 02:12:40,770
segment very common for people
to butcher roleplays. Name it is

2216
02:12:40,770 --> 02:12:45,390
ro bleh. Is Somali. In the I
said roleplay. I think we did in

2217
02:12:45,390 --> 02:12:47,850
the executive producer credits
for show one double oh five,

2218
02:12:47,940 --> 02:12:52,170
please update it. We will double
oh, by the way, I'm not sure

2219
02:12:52,170 --> 02:12:54,870
whether we will double check on
our side follow up. I'm not

2220
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:58,710
quite sure what went wrong. But
they do end by saying because we

2221
02:12:58,710 --> 02:13:01,440
were douchebags for so long as
well as our donation. We would

2222
02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:04,860
like to volunteer our services
as Chef consultants for the no

2223
02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:07,710
agenda show. Once in a while
there will be questions or

2224
02:13:07,710 --> 02:13:10,320
disputes about food that come up
on the show and we will be the

2225
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:12,600
ones to help give answers and
clarify.

2226
02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:16,710
As in clarified butter. Yes.

2227
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:20,940
And I think that again, what
organization has that?

2228
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,540
Yes, we have a chef we have her
are official chefs.

2229
02:13:27,570 --> 02:13:30,540
I can hear you. I can hear you
going wash it. Wait a minute, is

2230
02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:34,620
there going to call me out? I'm
being wrong? No, no, it's not

2231
02:13:34,620 --> 02:13:35,130
gonna happen.

2232
02:13:35,790 --> 02:13:39,810
I have another it's not a make
good but it's something that we

2233
02:13:39,810 --> 02:13:42,180
need to read before we get to
the end. Because you do have

2234
02:13:42,180 --> 02:13:46,260
knighting today because if you
notice the peerage committee has

2235
02:13:46,260 --> 02:13:50,520
had been been hung it up. Yes.
Yes, a number of complaints.

2236
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:55,080
Okay, and I think this is
resolved by one of our producers

2237
02:13:55,080 --> 02:14:02,580
air eras. Producer eras eat are
easy. In a region and the recent

2238
02:14:02,580 --> 02:14:04,770
show there's been a mention that
someone wanted to take the name

2239
02:14:04,770 --> 02:14:08,040
of source something and that it
was challenged by someone else

2240
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:11,340
who was already knighted as Sir
something and that the peerage

2241
02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:16,860
committee was debating. Please
debate no longer and we are

2242
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:20,490
accepting this as a memo of
understanding. A Knight's name

2243
02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:23,400
title is not like a protectorate
a land cannot belong to two

2244
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:26,700
nobles at the same rank but a
name or a title if three guys

2245
02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:29,910
named Morel for being knighted
they can all be sir Ralph. Same

2246
02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:32,910
with Sir Dave Sir Mark Dame
Jenny de Mary and the same goes

2247
02:14:32,910 --> 02:14:36,510
to any source some things you
cannot reserve a name as it was

2248
02:14:36,540 --> 02:14:40,260
as if it was land or internet
domain name or a commercial

2249
02:14:40,260 --> 02:14:43,530
brand is only your name. The
first of the SIR some things can

2250
02:14:43,530 --> 02:14:47,040
ask the ladder to relinquish the
chosen name but if the ladder

2251
02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:50,940
refuses either guns at dawn or
suck it up, whatever the joins

2252
02:14:50,940 --> 02:14:58,410
you. You're accepting that as
it's a perfect position. Yes,

2253
02:14:58,890 --> 02:15:01,770
yes. But if you have Have the
AOL keyword I think you get some

2254
02:15:01,770 --> 02:15:05,250
preference to be like that.
Alright everybody thank you

2255
02:15:05,250 --> 02:15:08,640
again so value for value model
dvorak.org/a Another show coming

2256
02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:15,570
up on Thursday vo rec.org/and A
very important jobs and have

2257
02:15:15,570 --> 02:15:21,390
cancer karma jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs Let's vote for job

2258
02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:27,420
karma

2259
02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:39,030
British short list we start off
with Melissa who says Happy

2260
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:42,180
Birthday to serve gadget
virtuoso sir ABS Happy Birthday

2261
02:15:42,180 --> 02:15:45,330
to his wife three t mintop. She
will be celebrating on

2262
02:15:45,330 --> 02:15:50,070
Valentine's Day February 14 and
Jamie Christiansen turns 5555

2263
02:15:50,070 --> 02:15:52,350
times around the Sun happy
birthday from your buddies here

2264
02:15:52,350 --> 02:15:57,990
at the best podcast in the
universe. Two nice things. It's

2265
02:15:57,990 --> 02:16:00,510
been a while since we've had any
knighting so I'm happy about

2266
02:16:00,510 --> 02:16:07,770
that blades. Yes, thank you very
much. Roger Colburn. Morgan

2267
02:16:07,770 --> 02:16:11,160
Corkhill step up on stage both
of you are about to join the

2268
02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:13,170
roundtable with the no agenda
nights and names for your

2269
02:16:13,170 --> 02:16:15,180
contributions to the best
podcasts University amount of

2270
02:16:15,180 --> 02:16:18,840
$1,000 or more and I hereby
proudly pronounced the game be

2271
02:16:19,470 --> 02:16:23,070
barren Roger Colburn, Sir James
Bond of episode one double oh

2272
02:16:23,070 --> 02:16:26,820
seven. And Sir Captain Morgan
for you, gentlemen. We have

2273
02:16:26,820 --> 02:16:29,250
Captain Morgans and women with
questionable reputation we've

2274
02:16:29,250 --> 02:16:31,920
got kebab and Persian wine
brisket and barrel aged copper

2275
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:35,220
ale. We've got pepperoni rolls
and pale ales, we got harlots

2276
02:16:35,220 --> 02:16:38,550
and held all fish by fellatio
diet soda and video games breast

2277
02:16:38,550 --> 02:16:41,520
milk and pablum bong hits in
bourbon cases and sock a

2278
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:45,240
sparkling sparkling cider and
escorts, ginger ale and Jerboas.

2279
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:46,650
And of course, the ever
effervescent

2280
02:16:46,680 --> 02:16:48,330
mutton and Mead.

2281
02:16:49,469 --> 02:16:53,519
And head over to no agenda
nation.com/rings Give Eric a

2282
02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:56,399
show your size. And when you get
everything in, tweeted when I

2283
02:16:56,399 --> 02:17:00,059
saw three this past week, there
was a really good one from West

2284
02:17:00,059 --> 02:17:02,699
Texas. Do you see that with a
guy had like his fists with a

2285
02:17:02,699 --> 02:17:05,009
ring and a big oil rig in the
background?

2286
02:17:05,580 --> 02:17:08,580
I didn't see that. I retweeted
when I see him.

2287
02:17:08,610 --> 02:17:12,240
It's on the tweeters. Yeah, it's
very good. Now you sent me this

2288
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:15,030
article about Newsweek. And I
knew that they were going

2289
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:17,880
through some crap, but this
really was is quite

2290
02:17:17,880 --> 02:17:19,110
extraordinary.

2291
02:17:19,740 --> 02:17:22,980
Yeah, tell us your read from it,
read read from it. And

2292
02:17:22,980 --> 02:17:25,200
the publisher of Newsweek and
the Internet, International

2293
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:28,560
Business Times has been engaging
in fraudulent online traffic

2294
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:32,670
practices that helped secure a
major ad buy from a US

2295
02:17:32,670 --> 02:17:35,820
government agency, according to
a new report released today by

2296
02:17:35,850 --> 02:17:40,830
independent ad fraud
researchers. That is the meat of

2297
02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:45,180
the story. They were invaded by
the Attorney General's office,

2298
02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:50,640
they had a raid for their books
and their computers. And, you

2299
02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:53,670
know, this has now gotten down
to the newsroom of blame game in

2300
02:17:53,670 --> 02:17:56,070
the newsroom, which maybe you
can speak to.

2301
02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:00,420
Well, now we're having there was
a couple of things going on with

2302
02:18:00,420 --> 02:18:04,920
his with the, the publisher and
the editor. And a lot of people

2303
02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:09,000
quit. Because because these are
these are these insightful

2304
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:12,420
reporters that don't seem to
understand what's going on. And

2305
02:18:12,420 --> 02:18:15,090
then they, when they found out a
little bit, they decided to

2306
02:18:15,090 --> 02:18:16,590
report on it. Maybe a

2307
02:18:16,590 --> 02:18:19,620
strange maybe a strange
question. But could you explain

2308
02:18:19,650 --> 02:18:22,590
the functions of the editor
versus the publisher?

2309
02:18:22,860 --> 02:18:27,720
The publisher sells ads, the
editor, Phil creates content?

2310
02:18:28,140 --> 02:18:32,190
Are they on equal footing?
Depends. It's varies from

2311
02:18:32,190 --> 02:18:35,490
publication to publication.
There's some structures are very

2312
02:18:35,490 --> 02:18:39,090
complicated. And some structures
are very simple. And generally

2313
02:18:39,090 --> 02:18:42,510
speaking, they're both very
powerful, and they're both tried

2314
02:18:42,510 --> 02:18:46,620
to keep to themselves. And one
side sells ads and fills up the

2315
02:18:46,620 --> 02:18:50,520
ads and pays for the editors to
create content to put into the

2316
02:18:50,550 --> 02:18:54,300
publication. Yeah, in a
nutshell. And they're not

2317
02:18:54,300 --> 02:19:00,180
supposed to intermingle? Because
it is church and state. Yes,

2318
02:19:00,180 --> 02:19:00,870
yes. Yes.

2319
02:19:01,530 --> 02:19:03,420
It's a Chinese wall.

2320
02:19:03,660 --> 02:19:07,320
So one of the reporters, I
guess, wrote up some of the

2321
02:19:07,710 --> 02:19:11,850
hanky panky in an article about
their own paper, or about

2322
02:19:11,850 --> 02:19:14,880
Newsweek itself. And this got
everybody bent out of shape,

2323
02:19:14,880 --> 02:19:19,200
because the reporter and the
editor said, Well, we're just

2324
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:23,040
reporting based on the facts
that are and then the approach

2325
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:25,050
is just a badass, we're gonna
you're gonna put us out of

2326
02:19:25,050 --> 02:19:31,500
business, you idiots. And it is
usually not done. I mean, when

2327
02:19:32,309 --> 02:19:35,399
well, but the tension, the
tension with online

2328
02:19:35,399 --> 02:19:38,549
publications, because this is
really all about online. And,

2329
02:19:38,609 --> 02:19:41,609
and to reiterate, we've
discussed many times on this

2330
02:19:41,609 --> 02:19:46,949
show. What can make money? Well,
I was gonna say the way it's

2331
02:19:46,949 --> 02:19:52,409
done is you go to companies like
Monopoly Inc. And there's other

2332
02:19:52,439 --> 02:19:55,949
outfits out there. You say,
Okay, I want to 2 million clicks

2333
02:19:55,949 --> 02:19:59,969
this month. Okay, that'll cost
you. There'll be a $5 CPM.

2334
02:19:59,999 --> 02:20:04,979
That's cost per 1000. So that
would be $5,000 for 1,002,000

2335
02:20:04,979 --> 02:20:08,519
for 10,000 for 2 million, and
then you turn around and you

2336
02:20:08,519 --> 02:20:14,489
sell that, those clicks, those
so called views, or clicks or

2337
02:20:14,489 --> 02:20:18,479
views or whatever it is more
views, but you sell that for $7.

2338
02:20:18,479 --> 02:20:21,059
CPM that I'm just giving you
numbers, there's a spread in

2339
02:20:21,059 --> 02:20:23,969
there. It's called arbitrage and
that's how they make money. But

2340
02:20:23,969 --> 02:20:29,039
you still have the pressure of
creating stories that get

2341
02:20:29,039 --> 02:20:32,789
clicks, which and that's what
the publisher was then mad at

2342
02:20:32,789 --> 02:20:36,959
the editor, because they would
they did some bogus story. Which

2343
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:37,709
story was that?

2344
02:20:37,740 --> 02:20:40,410
There seems to be a lot of
bitching and moaning going

2345
02:20:40,410 --> 02:20:44,820
around, but from both sides.
Yeah. I found that yeah, they

2346
02:20:44,820 --> 02:20:48,150
weren't doing enough clickbait.
Yeah, they didn't have enough

2347
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:51,420
clickbait for sure. It wasn't
enough clickbait, which is true

2348
02:20:51,420 --> 02:20:55,860
gold through. And there was also
the way they were doing it was,

2349
02:20:55,890 --> 02:20:59,070
you know, buying? They were
obviously they never said in

2350
02:20:59,070 --> 02:21:02,700
here, but it was obviously they
were buying clicks from click

2351
02:21:02,700 --> 02:21:07,650
farms. Yes. Which is verboten.
It's against the law. Oh,

2352
02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:09,510
I didn't realize it's against
the law.

2353
02:21:09,900 --> 02:21:12,240
I think as it gets, yes, it's
advertising fraud.

2354
02:21:12,300 --> 02:21:16,110
Well, then all of Silicon Valley
can go down the tubes.

2355
02:21:16,110 --> 02:21:17,430
Everybody's doing this.

2356
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:23,340
I think you've been saying that
for years. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I

2357
02:21:23,340 --> 02:21:25,770
guess what you haven't been
hearing for years is against the

2358
02:21:25,770 --> 02:21:26,550
law, I did

2359
02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:29,400
not realize it was actually
illegal to do. It's

2360
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:35,670
fraud. Just simple fraud.
Gotcha. And no matter how you do

2361
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:38,490
it, you're gonna do something
that people use bots, bots come

2362
02:21:38,490 --> 02:21:41,790
in to click away, or the bots
are trained to go onto a page

2363
02:21:42,690 --> 02:21:45,840
from different IP addresses,
click on a couple of things as

2364
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:51,720
if they were actually there. And
then go away, and come in again,

2365
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:54,540
two seconds later, with a
different IP address spoofing

2366
02:21:54,540 --> 02:21:57,210
something else, and they gotta
wait, there's ways of doing

2367
02:21:57,210 --> 02:22:00,660
this. And there's people who
have set up shop all over the

2368
02:22:00,660 --> 02:22:06,030
world that do this. In some
cases they may be the more

2369
02:22:06,030 --> 02:22:09,390
advanced versions are in the
Philippines. And I think in

2370
02:22:09,390 --> 02:22:13,590
India, where they have people
there, instead of a bot, you

2371
02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:16,350
actually have people coming in
every couple of seconds. And

2372
02:22:16,350 --> 02:22:18,810
there's you have you can have a
room of 100 people, they can

2373
02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:19,980
crank crank up a lot

2374
02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:23,250
of numbers, the Philippines is
where you get that service

2375
02:22:23,250 --> 02:22:24,030
Philippines

2376
02:22:24,030 --> 02:22:27,540
together, this is what they
said. And they go in there

2377
02:22:27,540 --> 02:22:29,700
clicking on different kinds of
random stuff. So it's almost

2378
02:22:29,700 --> 02:22:32,910
impossible to determine, except
for the fact that they're in the

2379
02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:38,040
Philippines. Minor minor point,
it's hard to just stop that

2380
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:42,780
because of the bot thing. So
it's the whole thing is really

2381
02:22:42,870 --> 02:22:46,500
the I've seen all these online
operations that are supposedly

2382
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:50,580
making a lot of money doing
this, or doing this Yeah,

2383
02:22:50,580 --> 02:22:53,370
especially with a lot of the
video operations in particular.

2384
02:22:54,150 --> 02:23:02,430
And eight because nobody really
has a way to perfectly monetize

2385
02:23:04,140 --> 02:23:07,650
doing what you could do in print
and on television, to do that

2386
02:23:07,650 --> 02:23:12,300
online and make money. It's
done, it can't be done. I think

2387
02:23:12,300 --> 02:23:17,520
it can be done. Not not with
this model. I just said I think

2388
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:21,420
it can be done. I have no idea
how to do it. I mean, what we do

2389
02:23:21,420 --> 02:23:24,780
is like just bypassing the model
and doing and going with a very

2390
02:23:24,780 --> 02:23:28,650
old fashioned model, which is
you help us keep the show going

2391
02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:32,190
by contributing to it. And
that's that's goes back to the

2392
02:23:32,190 --> 02:23:36,120
dark ages as before anyone even
dreamed up an advertisement. But

2393
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:41,850
there's gotta be a way of doing
it. I don't know what it is. But

2394
02:23:41,850 --> 02:23:46,050
this you think then again, maybe
the numbers are just so low

2395
02:23:46,050 --> 02:23:50,070
because nobody really you know,
I mean, YouTube has probably got

2396
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:52,380
the most clicks going through
and I don't see that to not lose

2397
02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:55,650
in their ass. Oh they definitely
is in millions and millions of

2398
02:23:55,980 --> 02:23:59,550
definitely you to eventually
shutter they're going to shutter

2399
02:23:59,550 --> 02:23:59,610
it

2400
02:24:00,630 --> 02:24:02,670
well that's why they keep
experimenting now they got this

2401
02:24:02,670 --> 02:24:05,130
TV thing they're advertising
which I'm sure it's costing them

2402
02:24:05,130 --> 02:24:06,300
a fortune to advertise.

2403
02:24:06,539 --> 02:24:09,749
Well, not just to advertise they
have to get all the licenses

2404
02:24:10,349 --> 02:24:16,259
Yes, i Big deal. If Google was
forced to spin out their numbers

2405
02:24:16,259 --> 02:24:20,429
really spin them out instead of
just throwing out vague numbers

2406
02:24:20,429 --> 02:24:23,489
losing proposition which is
impossible to get them to do

2407
02:24:23,489 --> 02:24:26,879
because of the nature there's a
stock is all class you know,

2408
02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:29,219
some sort of class you have no
voting rights. You can't do

2409
02:24:29,219 --> 02:24:34,589
anything. It's a dumb shot. At
the we see that YouTube is gotta

2410
02:24:34,589 --> 02:24:40,799
be just a huge dog, a dog. But
there's no way of taking the New

2411
02:24:40,799 --> 02:24:43,919
York Times. I mean, they've
Yeah, they charge you for this,

2412
02:24:43,919 --> 02:24:46,859
but like people say, you know,
just click on the private

2413
02:24:46,859 --> 02:24:51,089
browser and you can get the New
York Times for free. You don't

2414
02:24:51,089 --> 02:24:53,609
have that limit. I mean, it's
all and it's all the hacking

2415
02:24:53,609 --> 02:24:57,059
going on not hacking, but yeah,
hacking. So people are

2416
02:24:57,059 --> 02:25:00,749
downloading movies. And again,
free content here is In the

2417
02:25:00,749 --> 02:25:04,019
online things to disaster for
publishers and people who want

2418
02:25:04,019 --> 02:25:05,129
to do media in general

2419
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:09,180
in the old way, yes. If you're
used

2420
02:25:09,179 --> 02:25:12,449
to the old way, there's no new
way. I mean, Google found a new

2421
02:25:12,449 --> 02:25:15,989
way to make money from search.
That's and that's the last new

2422
02:25:15,989 --> 02:25:17,219
thoughts anyone had.

2423
02:25:17,250 --> 02:25:20,040
That's new. You're right. That's
new. That's the only thing

2424
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:24,870
that's really new. Yeah. Now
that journalists are moving into

2425
02:25:24,870 --> 02:25:28,050
a new protected class, you'll be
happy to hear, although I'm not

2426
02:25:28,050 --> 02:25:31,740
sure you qualify, we will look
through the documentation. There

2427
02:25:31,740 --> 02:25:37,440
is a bill, HR 4935 may also be
cited as the journalist

2428
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:43,350
Protection Act. We Yes, in
general, and this is something

2429
02:25:43,350 --> 02:25:46,380
that gets added to Chapter Seven
title 18. United States Code.

2430
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:50,670
This is assault against
journalists general whenever in

2431
02:25:50,670 --> 02:25:53,430
or affecting interstate or
foreign commerce intentionally

2432
02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:58,080
commits or attempts to commit a
an act described in subsection B

2433
02:25:58,110 --> 02:26:00,660
I'll explain that shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned

2434
02:26:00,660 --> 02:26:05,430
no more than three years. Or
both. It says both should be

2435
02:26:05,430 --> 02:26:09,810
some money there. But you can
get maximum six years for

2436
02:26:09,810 --> 02:26:13,440
creating bodily injury to a
journalist. An act describing

2437
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:16,410
this subsection is an act that
causes a bodily injury to an

2438
02:26:16,410 --> 02:26:21,300
individual who A is a
journalist, be committed with

2439
02:26:21,300 --> 02:26:24,900
knowledge or reason to no such
individual is a journalist and

2440
02:26:24,930 --> 02:26:28,590
three committed while such
journalist is taking part in

2441
02:26:28,590 --> 02:26:31,440
news gathering or with the
intention of intimidating or

2442
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:35,670
impeding news gathering by such
a journalist. And then we have

2443
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:38,730
the serious bodily injury to a
journalist, which is the same so

2444
02:26:38,730 --> 02:26:44,040
it's really these two things.
They define a few pieces in this

2445
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:47,040
which is important news
gathering. The term news

2446
02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:50,640
gathering means engaging in the
regular gathering, preparation,

2447
02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:53,190
collection, photographing,
recording, writing, editing,

2448
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:56,070
reporting, or publishing
concerning local, national

2449
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:59,160
international events or other
matters of public interest. I

2450
02:26:59,160 --> 02:27:02,310
think we we do that we gather
news that way.

2451
02:27:05,250 --> 02:27:05,970
That's all we do.

2452
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:07,440
But what is the journalist?

2453
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:09,960
Does it say yes,

2454
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:13,170
this is the legal definition
now. Oh, we

2455
02:27:13,170 --> 02:27:15,360
have a legal definition of
something that's, that's

2456
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:18,600
protected by the US
Constitution. Okay, I like to

2457
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:19,050
hear that.

2458
02:27:20,610 --> 02:27:25,410
The term journalist means an
individual who is an employee,

2459
02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:29,850
independent contractor, or agent
of an entity or service that

2460
02:27:29,850 --> 02:27:33,420
disseminates news or
information. That's us so far,

2461
02:27:33,420 --> 02:27:39,930
so good, by means of newspaper,
nonfiction book, wire service,

2462
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:45,120
news agency, news website,
mobile application or other news

2463
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,030
or information service, whether
distributed digitally or

2464
02:27:48,030 --> 02:27:52,860
otherwise, news program,
magazine, or other periodical,

2465
02:27:52,890 --> 02:27:58,980
whether in print, electronic, or
other format. And is broadcast

2466
02:27:58,980 --> 02:28:02,250
through television, radio, multi
channel, video programming,

2467
02:28:02,250 --> 02:28:06,720
distributor, or motion picture
for public showing, and with a

2468
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,720
primary intent to investigate
events or procure material in

2469
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:12,060
order to disseminate the public
news or information concerning

2470
02:28:12,060 --> 02:28:18,540
local blah, blah, blah. I'm
sorry, you have to belong to an

2471
02:28:18,540 --> 02:28:21,810
organization that disseminates
their news through television

2472
02:28:21,810 --> 02:28:25,650
broadcast, radio broadcast,
multi channel video programming,

2473
02:28:25,650 --> 02:28:30,060
which is defined as a
combination of those in the

2474
02:28:30,060 --> 02:28:36,510
Communications Act of 1934, or
motion picture. So just a you

2475
02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:40,770
know you with your with your
little podcast, you're not a

2476
02:28:40,770 --> 02:28:41,460
journalist.

2477
02:28:43,590 --> 02:28:47,880
I have other outlets. You're not
a journalist.

2478
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:51,930
Are you on broadcast radio,
multichannel video programming

2479
02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:55,080
or radio broadcast? No.

2480
02:28:56,160 --> 02:29:02,370
What about print prints covered
by the by the First Amendment? I

2481
02:29:02,370 --> 02:29:06,690
thought it just said you you're
a news distribution company. In

2482
02:29:06,690 --> 02:29:09,690
unless you're on on the TV,
you're not a journalist. Is that

2483
02:29:09,690 --> 02:29:10,620
what you're reading? To me?

2484
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,240
That's what it sounds like.

2485
02:29:13,470 --> 02:29:15,360
What about the magazines? What
about the newspaper? What are

2486
02:29:15,360 --> 02:29:17,700
the New York Times? How's that
not covered by

2487
02:29:17,730 --> 02:29:20,310
the you know, I'm just telling
you how it's written. It's very

2488
02:29:20,340 --> 02:29:21,030
unclear.

2489
02:29:22,620 --> 02:29:25,320
Well, I wouldn't be up in arms.
If I was at the New York Times

2490
02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:25,710
or if

2491
02:29:25,710 --> 02:29:28,020
you were a journalist, maybe you
should consider being up in

2492
02:29:28,020 --> 02:29:28,470
arms.

2493
02:29:29,670 --> 02:29:32,070
Yeah, they won't be up and no
normally gets up in arms unless

2494
02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:35,700
it's about Trump. Blame Trump
somehow and then you get up in

2495
02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:36,060
arms.

2496
02:29:37,410 --> 02:29:43,590
Well, anyway, and it's always a
little disappointing. But with

2497
02:29:43,620 --> 02:29:45,900
you know, the breadth of
knowledge that we have the

2498
02:29:45,900 --> 02:29:49,290
amount of people that we have
who contribute to this program,

2499
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:53,100
when the most emailed articles
about the emotional support

2500
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:57,720
hamster. I mean, the thing the
thing is, like, people want us

2501
02:29:57,720 --> 02:30:00,690
to go on a cover that story is
so stupid. People want us

2502
02:30:00,690 --> 02:30:03,270
to go a little deeper. I
understand because I've been on

2503
02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:07,050
the bus after the peacock. I
thought we were kind of done

2504
02:30:07,050 --> 02:30:09,990
with laughing about it all like,
okay, it's stupid. We know it.

2505
02:30:10,140 --> 02:30:13,110
But now it's still the number
one most emailed article,

2506
02:30:13,140 --> 02:30:17,310
Texas State student is
considering legal action after

2507
02:30:17,310 --> 02:30:22,710
she claims. Spirit Airlines told
her to flush her support hamster

2508
02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:25,320
down the toilet. And she did it.

2509
02:30:25,530 --> 02:30:49,410
So flush please. Hold on to the
facade I'll be back.

2510
02:30:55,620 --> 02:31:00,240
Okay, so wait a minute. Let me
get this straight. So we're only

2511
02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:02,580
covering the short because
somebody wrote a jingle like

2512
02:31:02,580 --> 02:31:02,760
that.

2513
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:09,420
Yeah. That's the no agenda show
right there, my friend. That is

2514
02:31:09,420 --> 02:31:14,640
how we roll? Yes. I looked into
this. I was little irked about

2515
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:19,290
this whole parade thing. And,
you know, the Trump has not said

2516
02:31:19,290 --> 02:31:25,410
he wants this parade. And, you
know, I did a deeper dive into

2517
02:31:25,410 --> 02:31:28,470
exactly what's going on. I
actually found a really good I

2518
02:31:28,470 --> 02:31:31,770
thought it was a good
conversation on CBS n of all

2519
02:31:31,770 --> 02:31:36,780
things. A CBS n is I think it's
it only online.

2520
02:31:36,810 --> 02:31:39,420
Yes, the online news service.
Yeah.

2521
02:31:39,720 --> 02:31:45,390
So they bring in this douchebag
from some think tank. And it's

2522
02:31:45,420 --> 02:31:48,660
the whole conversation was, I
mean, it was a little bit of

2523
02:31:48,660 --> 02:31:52,410
dimension, a lot of dimension B,
but they're missing an important

2524
02:31:52,410 --> 02:31:54,600
fact, which I'll get to after
this. But it's just listen to

2525
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:57,360
these as two news hosts. And
then this jabroni

2526
02:31:57,390 --> 02:32:00,570
earlier, we asked the DSU senior
Global Affairs contributor and

2527
02:32:00,600 --> 02:32:04,590
president of the Eurasia group,
Ian Bremmer about what this type

2528
02:32:04,590 --> 02:32:06,870
of message would send to the
rest of the world.

2529
02:32:07,020 --> 02:32:10,620
First of all, you know, Trump
likes the spectacle, that's

2530
02:32:10,620 --> 02:32:15,120
pretty clear. And while the, by
the way, he has vocal fry, the

2531
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:19,650
economy is doing quite well,
right now. It's also clear to

2532
02:32:19,650 --> 02:32:22,560
most around the Trump
administration that the ability

2533
02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:27,420
to actually really provide
economically for Trump's base is

2534
02:32:27,420 --> 02:32:31,470
pretty, right. I mean, they're
not doing all that much better

2535
02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:34,650
in the next four or eight years,
given the lack of inclusive

2536
02:32:34,650 --> 02:32:37,500
growth that's happening, you can
give them 1000 bucks, you know,

2537
02:32:37,500 --> 02:32:41,160
sort of in a tax bonus, you
couldn't you saw the dollar 50 A

2538
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:44,190
week, you know, Paul Ryan
comment and the rest. But the

2539
02:32:44,190 --> 02:32:47,910
reality is that a lot of what
Trump is giving them, is his

2540
02:32:47,910 --> 02:32:51,300
refusal to be politically
correct is his going after the

2541
02:32:51,300 --> 02:32:55,200
NFL players for taking a knee?
Is his board a wall, I'm going

2542
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:59,310
to look out for people like you
out for your security and your

2543
02:32:59,310 --> 02:33:02,250
stability. And, you know, this
is a good example of that. It's

2544
02:33:02,250 --> 02:33:06,120
bread and circuses, right. And
he wants to have a military

2545
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:09,750
parade. And, you know, in times
where people don't feel good,

2546
02:33:10,260 --> 02:33:15,540
having a national rallies around
the flag in a way that really

2547
02:33:15,540 --> 02:33:16,230
divides.

2548
02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:19,590
And by the way, I'd like to
point out based on his own

2549
02:33:19,590 --> 02:33:24,780
theory, that most of the
military personnel come from the

2550
02:33:24,780 --> 02:33:31,350
states that Trump trumped up. So
yes, of course, he's playing to

2551
02:33:31,350 --> 02:33:33,870
the base with this, if this is
exactly what he's thinking,

2552
02:33:33,900 --> 02:33:37,590
us versus them, and you're a
part of us, is a good feeling.

2553
02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:40,860
And so I think that politically,
what Trump is doing is actually

2554
02:33:40,860 --> 02:33:43,980
quite smart. It's kind of like
the memo. Right? I mean, he

2555
02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:47,100
released the memo and
delegitimize the FBI. And if you

2556
02:33:47,100 --> 02:33:49,470
know, the investigation is a
problem for you that the best

2557
02:33:49,470 --> 02:33:54,840
way to go is to have your base,
just say, this entire process is

2558
02:33:54,870 --> 02:33:59,190
is not worthy of us in our
country. It's fake, it's false.

2559
02:33:59,190 --> 02:34:01,680
And I think it's all part of the
same message. And so far, I

2560
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:02,610
mean, Trump one.

2561
02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:06,180
I don't think there's anybody
who's, you know, an American

2562
02:34:06,210 --> 02:34:10,140
would not want to see our
Sailors, Marines, soldiers,

2563
02:34:10,140 --> 02:34:14,130
airmen, you know, martial arts
industry, and it's pretty cool

2564
02:34:14,130 --> 02:34:16,440
to see all that hardware. The
fanboy in me would totally dig

2565
02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:18,570
that. The question is it really
publican? And you know, it's

2566
02:34:18,570 --> 02:34:20,730
going to cost X amount of
millions of dollars, where are

2567
02:34:20,730 --> 02:34:21,480
you going to get that money

2568
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:24,270
now that I mean, the last time I
think it was like $8 million,

2569
02:34:24,660 --> 02:34:27,060
and that was quite a number of
years. That's a lot cheaper.

2570
02:34:27,060 --> 02:34:33,180
That number keeps changing. Was
that that number cost and 91 is

2571
02:34:33,180 --> 02:34:37,860
eight 20 million is 5 million.
It's unbelievable. We are

2572
02:34:37,860 --> 02:34:40,290
a wealthy country, right, you
can find

2573
02:34:40,949 --> 02:34:43,499
here's a question and I know
we're sort of going long but I

2574
02:34:43,499 --> 02:34:46,019
thought you know, a lot of
people are going to ask why not?

2575
02:34:46,229 --> 02:34:49,319
Why not show off our hardware.
They do do it in other

2576
02:34:49,319 --> 02:34:51,449
countries. I'm glad you just
said that. Stealing they do the

2577
02:34:51,449 --> 02:34:51,689
best.

2578
02:34:53,070 --> 02:34:54,240
She said to do.

2579
02:34:56,100 --> 02:35:02,580
Queensboro Bridge can do it. So
North Koreans can do it. Why

2580
02:35:02,580 --> 02:35:03,600
can't we have to see

2581
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:07,140
how he's trying to bring it back
to because? Well, the French did

2582
02:35:07,140 --> 02:35:10,680
it the English do it. And he's
like, Yeah, North Koreans want

2583
02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,440
to make sure you see Eve all
evil dictator.

2584
02:35:13,770 --> 02:35:20,550
That's ugly. You know, in the
case of Europe, they've done it

2585
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:22,380
for the Queen's right. The Brits
have done it with everything.

2586
02:35:22,410 --> 02:35:23,550
We don't even have a clinic.

2587
02:35:23,580 --> 02:35:26,610
We don't have a queen. But it's
not about synchronized

2588
02:35:26,610 --> 02:35:29,040
applause or, you know, we don't
have a queen. I understand that.

2589
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:35,160
But it is sort of a show of
greatness. And I'm sure there

2590
02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:37,620
are a lot of people, Trump
supporters, but probably not

2591
02:35:37,620 --> 02:35:41,430
Trump supporters who are gonna
say, What's the big deal? You're

2592
02:35:41,460 --> 02:35:42,600
like, we do have the money.

2593
02:35:42,930 --> 02:35:45,660
Yeah, I think that the the
opposition, because the country

2594
02:35:45,660 --> 02:35:49,050
is so divided right now, the
easiest thing for those that

2595
02:35:49,050 --> 02:35:53,670
hate Trump to do is to simply
point out how anti patriotic

2596
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:57,300
Trump is personally, like this
would be a much easier thing to

2597
02:35:57,330 --> 02:36:01,410
organize and get behind. If
Trump were McCain. Right. I

2598
02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:03,030
mean, a war right. Oh,

2599
02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:06,210
do you hear what the saying that
was? Right. Right. It's very

2600
02:36:06,210 --> 02:36:08,730
interesting, right? He's saying
this would be much easier if it

2601
02:36:08,730 --> 02:36:14,220
was McCain. Everybody be like,
Ah, sure is fantastic. Let's do

2602
02:36:14,220 --> 02:36:18,960
it. So, you know, it's it's all
based on the premise that this

2603
02:36:18,960 --> 02:36:23,040
needs to be some kind of spur of
the moment. Now maybe we funded

2604
02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:25,620
the whole thing with the
military is the best. Let's go

2605
02:36:25,620 --> 02:36:27,990
show King Kim Jong Un Exactly.
What

2606
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:30,240
were your dynamics pay for it?
They'll do it.

2607
02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:36,450
But what did Trump actually say
and ask for? Allergy again, this

2608
02:36:36,450 --> 02:36:39,960
is his conversation with this is
the only time he's mentioned it,

2609
02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:44,430
as far as I know. And from this,
the Pentagon was readying for

2610
02:36:44,430 --> 02:36:48,120
something very specific. I mean,
what do you just your your what

2611
02:36:48,120 --> 02:36:51,780
you've heard in the news, your
own with your own biases, like

2612
02:36:51,780 --> 02:36:55,380
we all have? What do you believe
they're talking about when they

2613
02:36:55,380 --> 02:36:58,650
say Trump wants a parade? What
do you think it is supposed to

2614
02:36:58,650 --> 02:36:58,920
be?

2615
02:37:00,330 --> 02:37:04,230
I have no idea because I've
taken already taken the position

2616
02:37:04,230 --> 02:37:08,340
that he never asked for a
military parade. And it's, you

2617
02:37:08,340 --> 02:37:10,800
know, unless I hear Him say
something like, I was talking to

2618
02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:16,560
him saying, use a shithole word.
Yeah. It's nuts. I hear it now.

2619
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:19,860
I'm not buying any because I
think they just lie to us. Yes.

2620
02:37:19,950 --> 02:37:22,830
Well, you can't know because
they lie so much. But here is

2621
02:37:22,830 --> 02:37:26,340
the only thing you said, which
was with McCrone after he saw

2622
02:37:26,340 --> 02:37:31,080
the the French parade, the
military? I did see this. Well,

2623
02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:33,840
yeah. Did you hear what he what
he really said? Because I

2624
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,750
vaguely remember he thought it
was cool. And maybe we should do

2625
02:37:36,750 --> 02:37:37,560
something like that

2626
02:37:37,590 --> 02:37:40,920
I was your guest at the steel.
And it was one of the greatest

2627
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:46,170
parades I've ever seen. It was
two hours on the button. And it

2628
02:37:46,170 --> 02:37:50,430
was military might. And I think
a tremendous thing for France

2629
02:37:50,490 --> 02:37:54,300
and for the spirit of friends.
And people don't know what great

2630
02:37:54,300 --> 02:37:57,180
warriors they are in France. But
when you see that, and you see

2631
02:37:57,180 --> 02:38:01,050
all the victories. There was a
tremendous today. And to a large

2632
02:38:01,050 --> 02:38:03,750
extent, because of what I
witnessed, we may do something

2633
02:38:03,750 --> 02:38:06,870
like that on July 4, in
Washington down.

2634
02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:13,230
That's a little different. July
4, we have all kinds of military

2635
02:38:13,230 --> 02:38:16,380
shit going on. Yeah, what's
wrong with that?

2636
02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:20,640
He's it's trumped.

2637
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:25,800
Okay, but it's July 4. And he
reiterates it

2638
02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:32,700
I don't know, the topic, but we
had a lot of planes going over

2639
02:38:32,700 --> 02:38:36,570
and we had a lot of military
might. And it was really a

2640
02:38:36,570 --> 02:38:39,450
beautiful thing to see. They had
representatives from different

2641
02:38:39,450 --> 02:38:42,780
wars and different beautiful
rooms. It was really so well

2642
02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:46,620
done. But I came back. And one
of my early calls where I think

2643
02:38:46,620 --> 02:38:48,600
we're gonna have to start
looking at that stuff. So we're

2644
02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:53,130
actually thinking about Fourth
of July, Pennsylvania Avenue

2645
02:38:53,130 --> 02:38:56,850
having a really great parade to
show our military strength.

2646
02:38:56,880 --> 02:39:00,360
Where is that in the reporting?
Could anyone please just add,

2647
02:39:00,600 --> 02:39:04,920
Trump wants to parade on the
Fourth of July? It's it's lying

2648
02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:05,670
by omission?

2649
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:10,680
No, they're they're in implying
that he just wants a parade for

2650
02:39:10,680 --> 02:39:11,460
himself.

2651
02:39:11,580 --> 02:39:14,190
Right. But did they not go check
and see what he actually said?

2652
02:39:14,190 --> 02:39:16,860
Are this just being omitted on
purpose?

2653
02:39:17,369 --> 02:39:19,769
I don't think he's being omitted
on purpose. I just think it's

2654
02:39:19,769 --> 02:39:21,299
just poor reporting. Oh,

2655
02:39:21,869 --> 02:39:24,929
well, Chuck Schumer likes the
idea of parades to Here's an old

2656
02:39:24,959 --> 02:39:29,009
you know, the internet is a
great Wayback Machine. I love

2657
02:39:29,009 --> 02:39:31,049
Eris. I love to hear Chuck
Schumer

2658
02:39:31,050 --> 02:39:36,420
all these men risked their lives
to protect us. They experienced

2659
02:39:36,420 --> 02:39:38,940
terrible trauma and tragedy
along the way.

2660
02:39:39,090 --> 02:39:41,730
Senator Charles Schumer is
appealing to the Department of

2661
02:39:41,730 --> 02:39:45,150
Defense for approval of a grand
event of the canyon of heroes.

2662
02:39:45,390 --> 02:39:49,140
That would include military
brass color cars, military bands

2663
02:39:49,140 --> 02:39:52,680
and flyovers. It's still in the
planning stages, but DoD

2664
02:39:52,680 --> 02:39:55,260
officials say it's certainly not
unprecedented.

2665
02:39:55,770 --> 02:39:59,580
We might want to remind chuck of
that. And another one from the

2666
02:39:59,580 --> 02:40:04,740
way back machine Trump about the
stock market, but what an idiot

2667
02:40:04,740 --> 02:40:09,450
to take to take credit for the
stock market what a douchebag

2668
02:40:09,450 --> 02:40:12,240
and never do that. Because when
it goes down what are you going

2669
02:40:12,240 --> 02:40:16,140
to say now? Ha Trump? did Obama
ever do that?

2670
02:40:17,789 --> 02:40:19,259
I'm sure he did two years

2671
02:40:19,260 --> 02:40:22,830
after the worst recession most
of us have ever known. The stock

2672
02:40:22,830 --> 02:40:25,980
market has come roaring back,
the stock market recovered. So

2673
02:40:25,980 --> 02:40:31,380
people's 401 k's and retirement
accounts got replenished. Now,

2674
02:40:31,380 --> 02:40:34,080
I'm glad that corporate profits
are high. And I'm glad that the

2675
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:37,110
stock market is booming home
values are back on the rise.

2676
02:40:37,200 --> 02:40:40,350
Stock markets nearly doubled
home values are rising. The

2677
02:40:40,350 --> 02:40:43,470
stock market has rebounded or
stock market is rebounding. Hey,

2678
02:40:43,470 --> 02:40:47,070
stock market that has doubled in
the stock market has now doubled

2679
02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:49,710
even as the stock market
shatters records, the stock

2680
02:40:49,710 --> 02:40:53,460
market has more than doubled
since 2009. And since I took

2681
02:40:53,460 --> 02:40:56,610
office, the stock market has
more than doubled. Corporate

2682
02:40:56,610 --> 02:40:59,640
profits are up stock markets up
but we did it in the stock

2683
02:40:59,670 --> 02:41:02,940
market double stock markets
doing great stock markets nearly

2684
02:41:02,940 --> 02:41:07,350
tripled. The stock market was
down. When I first took office

2685
02:41:07,350 --> 02:41:12,180
in the first few months I was in
office, about 3000 points lower

2686
02:41:12,180 --> 02:41:14,730
than it is now. Thanks, Obama.

2687
02:41:14,970 --> 02:41:17,040
There you go. The Internet
Wayback Machine ladies and

2688
02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:17,430
gentlemen.

2689
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:24,900
Well, I think you kind of nailed
the Trump haters there with that

2690
02:41:24,900 --> 02:41:30,960
one. You indicate that the media
is like slanted.

2691
02:41:31,589 --> 02:41:34,679
I have I have a question for
you. Then actually have a

2692
02:41:34,679 --> 02:41:40,199
question for the producers out
there military producers. So

2693
02:41:40,199 --> 02:41:46,049
this new movie, the 1517 to
Paris is about this incident

2694
02:41:46,049 --> 02:41:49,799
that took place on the tallies
from Amsterdam to Paris, where

2695
02:41:49,799 --> 02:41:53,519
we had two American heroes,
three American heroes, actually,

2696
02:41:53,819 --> 02:41:58,439
who all three boyhood friends,
all military guys, they're all

2697
02:41:58,469 --> 02:42:01,469
hanging out in Europe before
they go back, or they just come

2698
02:42:01,469 --> 02:42:06,239
back for somewhere. And a
terrorist grabs a gun and they

2699
02:42:06,719 --> 02:42:08,369
take them out. They don't kill
them, actually, but they take

2700
02:42:08,369 --> 02:42:13,259
them out. Now, Clint Eastwood
directs this movie, and he

2701
02:42:13,259 --> 02:42:17,099
decides, oh, I've got a great
idea. Why don't I Clint Eastwood

2702
02:42:17,099 --> 02:42:23,879
put all of my creative
reputation on the on the table

2703
02:42:23,909 --> 02:42:27,179
by having the three original
guys play themselves in the

2704
02:42:27,179 --> 02:42:33,779
movie. This, I think is pretty.
I mean, they are the the main

2705
02:42:33,779 --> 02:42:38,729
characters. Yes. And so now the
terrorist right and so now they

2706
02:42:38,729 --> 02:42:39,149
are

2707
02:42:39,180 --> 02:42:41,460
they didn't have him play his
original role that would have

2708
02:42:41,460 --> 02:42:43,560
been better who the terrorists.

2709
02:42:44,910 --> 02:42:49,740
But so for some odd reason, they
were on Tucker Carlson. And he

2710
02:42:49,740 --> 02:42:52,980
was interviewing them a fawning
over them. Which leads me to

2711
02:42:52,980 --> 02:42:57,360
believe I couldn't find offhand
a an entertainment connection to

2712
02:42:57,360 --> 02:43:00,300
the fox properties, but I'm sure
it's there somewhere.

2713
02:43:00,930 --> 02:43:03,960
We'll search probably might be
searchlight I think as Fox.

2714
02:43:05,340 --> 02:43:09,660
But the way the the way it comes
across to me, you see these

2715
02:43:09,660 --> 02:43:12,420
three guys sitting there, the
one in the middle is in a suit.

2716
02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:15,990
He's buttoned up. He has a you
know, the square shoulders

2717
02:43:15,990 --> 02:43:19,680
military guy. The two guys on
the right and the left there it

2718
02:43:19,680 --> 02:43:23,730
really dress casual that just in
the way they spoke about certain

2719
02:43:23,730 --> 02:43:30,150
things. Just to lay it out made
me question. It somehow if there

2720
02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:33,750
may be not really military, then
we don't know much about this

2721
02:43:33,750 --> 02:43:37,200
attack other than what happened
on one car of a train. I mean,

2722
02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:40,050
just think about the
opportunity. If if I was of the

2723
02:43:40,050 --> 02:43:44,640
conspiratorial nature, you get,
you get two actors and you use

2724
02:43:44,640 --> 02:43:49,680
one real guy. And you stage this
thing, you film it. And then you

2725
02:43:49,680 --> 02:43:55,080
release it later as a movie.
Yeah, so maybe you can't come

2726
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:59,790
back and do it again. You know,
re recreate the scene, but maybe

2727
02:43:59,790 --> 02:44:00,390
it's

2728
02:44:00,450 --> 02:44:03,270
it you think the whole thing is
a bunch of bullshit.

2729
02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:06,960
Yes. And my issue with it is I
listened to these guys. I've

2730
02:44:06,990 --> 02:44:11,670
known military personnel my
entire life. Certainly intensely

2731
02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:16,860
in the past 10 or 1520. Yeah,
just listen to him

2732
02:44:16,890 --> 02:44:19,230
earlier this story just got more
amazing. Not only did you do

2733
02:44:19,230 --> 02:44:22,560
this, and you know one of the
one of the great good deeds

2734
02:44:22,560 --> 02:44:25,320
ever, but she got whole new
careers out of it. What was it

2735
02:44:25,320 --> 02:44:27,300
like at any of you acted before?

2736
02:44:27,900 --> 02:44:30,150
Never, never, not even a school
play?

2737
02:44:30,690 --> 02:44:34,350
Well then to go from like zero
to Hollywood film directed by

2738
02:44:34,350 --> 02:44:37,290
Clint Eastwood's con a lot. How
did you do it?

2739
02:44:37,800 --> 02:44:41,220
We honestly just did it. How we
did it the first time really?

2740
02:44:41,220 --> 02:44:43,830
That's pretty much the only
advice he gave us was just be

2741
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:45,810
ourselves and do it how we did
it. Only Clint

2742
02:44:45,810 --> 02:44:48,960
Eastwood can pull something like
this off. So when he asked us he

2743
02:44:48,960 --> 02:44:50,880
gave us the competence to
attempt it. So we just had to

2744
02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:51,300
try it.

2745
02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:54,030
Yeah, we just trust him so much.
I mean, we knew going into it

2746
02:44:54,030 --> 02:44:57,240
that he was going to do the
story justice. And just having

2747
02:44:57,240 --> 02:44:59,820
him like Anthony said have the
competence in us with was

2748
02:44:59,820 --> 02:45:01,710
already needed. What is it

2749
02:45:01,710 --> 02:45:02,610
was it hard?

2750
02:45:03,689 --> 02:45:06,659
It was fun. I mean, it was hard
at first getting used to it. But

2751
02:45:06,689 --> 02:45:10,439
I think we got a rhythm with it
pretty quickly. And we actually

2752
02:45:10,439 --> 02:45:11,069
had finished ahead of

2753
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:12,690
us the guy in the middle casual,
I believe

2754
02:45:12,720 --> 02:45:15,570
he takes the weight of shooting
a Big Picture Motion Picture off

2755
02:45:15,570 --> 02:45:18,030
of you. He just keeps it real
light. And he's like your what

2756
02:45:18,030 --> 02:45:21,060
your two friends just do what
you did, and capture the rest.

2757
02:45:21,060 --> 02:45:23,520
And when Clint Eastwood says you
gotta cap, you got to trust him

2758
02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:23,940
on that.

2759
02:45:24,149 --> 02:45:27,179
Yeah. And you said, What was it
like filming the pivotal scene,

2760
02:45:27,689 --> 02:45:31,049
in the movie and in your lives
on the train? It was

2761
02:45:31,050 --> 02:45:33,660
honestly just a lot of fun. I
mean, a lot of people think it'd

2762
02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:36,780
be traumatizing. But luckily, we
don't have PTSD. I mean, nobody

2763
02:45:36,780 --> 02:45:38,280
died that day on the train.

2764
02:45:38,339 --> 02:45:41,939
This is the part where it caught
my attention. I don't believe

2765
02:45:41,939 --> 02:45:45,899
there's any military person who
would speak so cavalierly about

2766
02:45:45,899 --> 02:45:49,499
PTSD. Like, no, it's not like we
had PTSD. Nobody died that day.

2767
02:45:50,699 --> 02:45:53,489
If you're in the military, you
know, PTSD does not come from

2768
02:45:53,489 --> 02:45:57,389
dying, necessarily comes from a
lot of different things. And I

2769
02:45:57,389 --> 02:46:00,359
and I'm just shooting from the
hip, John, I could be completely

2770
02:46:00,359 --> 02:46:05,369
wrong. I do know that over 500
movies, 600, television shows

2771
02:46:05,399 --> 02:46:09,629
all have been influenced by the
Pentagon with money with script

2772
02:46:09,629 --> 02:46:12,839
rewrites. I mean, there's huge
documentation now available

2773
02:46:12,839 --> 02:46:15,989
about that this did not happen
in a vacuum without the

2774
02:46:15,989 --> 02:46:16,529
Pentagon,

2775
02:46:16,590 --> 02:46:18,120
Ives on the train.

2776
02:46:18,180 --> 02:46:20,760
It was honestly just a lot of
fun. I mean, a lot of people

2777
02:46:20,760 --> 02:46:23,760
think it'd be traumatizing. But
luckily, we don't have PTSD. I

2778
02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:27,030
mean, nobody died that day on
the train. And I mean, we just

2779
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:29,880
got to hang out for like, a week
on a train with YouTube best

2780
02:46:29,880 --> 02:46:31,590
friends and Clint Eastwood. So

2781
02:46:31,650 --> 02:46:33,960
you get to do it, you get to do
it twice. That's pretty cool.

2782
02:46:34,890 --> 02:46:36,780
It's more than just the
headline, everybody gets to see

2783
02:46:36,780 --> 02:46:39,750
actually what happened, how
messy it was, how crazy it was.

2784
02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:43,470
And hopefully it inspires people
to maybe do some situations.

2785
02:46:43,560 --> 02:46:45,090
I feel like, That's it right

2786
02:46:45,090 --> 02:46:47,250
there. And I'm not judging
anyone. I haven't been in that

2787
02:46:47,250 --> 02:46:49,680
kind of situation. But you see,
a lot of these things unfolded.

2788
02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:51,480
Nobody does that. Why do you
think that is?

2789
02:46:52,020 --> 02:46:54,990
People are scared, we were
scared as well to I think the

2790
02:46:54,990 --> 02:46:57,480
unique thing about our situation
is we were just on a train and

2791
02:46:57,480 --> 02:47:01,350
we had nowhere to go. So I know
that all these situations are

2792
02:47:01,350 --> 02:47:04,470
different, you know, all these
different attacks and stuff like

2793
02:47:04,470 --> 02:47:07,140
that. But hopefully this change
the narrative a little bit and

2794
02:47:07,140 --> 02:47:09,690
inspires people out there that
you know, the common man can do

2795
02:47:09,690 --> 02:47:11,670
something, if they find
themselves in the same

2796
02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:12,300
situation.

2797
02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:16,440
You have their brave head, which
you guys are and that's always

2798
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:19,680
the that's always the key. It's
had any of you thought, a

2799
02:47:19,680 --> 02:47:21,600
scenario like that through
before you got on the train? If

2800
02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:23,250
I'm ever in this situation?
Here's what I'm gonna do.

2801
02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:25,860
Actually, yeah, we have we had
talked about it. I mean,

2802
02:47:25,860 --> 02:47:28,140
numerous times beforehand. I
mean, we kind of played war

2803
02:47:28,140 --> 02:47:30,780
growing up together. So we'd
always ask each other, like, if

2804
02:47:30,780 --> 02:47:32,730
a guy comes in this room, what
are you gonna do? And their

2805
02:47:32,730 --> 02:47:33,660
answers were always the same.

2806
02:47:33,690 --> 02:47:37,770
I think that was the biggest
contributing factor. So far, and

2807
02:47:37,770 --> 02:47:40,050
we all knew we'd be on the same
page or something like that

2808
02:47:40,050 --> 02:47:40,740
happened. Sure.

2809
02:47:40,890 --> 02:47:44,670
But you actually did it. People
just talking about it. You did

2810
02:47:44,670 --> 02:47:44,790
it.

2811
02:47:44,820 --> 02:47:46,350
We were just surprised.

2812
02:47:46,380 --> 02:47:50,730
Yeah. Given the opportunity,
and, and that's really

2813
02:47:51,240 --> 02:47:54,300
good. Well, I'm glad Hollywood
came to memorialize this far.

2814
02:47:54,750 --> 02:47:55,980
Thank you for joining us today.

2815
02:47:56,850 --> 02:48:01,380
Man. Thanks. I don't know. I
smell something here.

2816
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:05,310
Well, I'm not going to say
you're full of crap or your

2817
02:48:05,310 --> 02:48:07,380
life. This is dogs a deep band
because there's nothing no

2818
02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:10,890
evidence one way or the other.
And I It does sound a little

2819
02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:16,110
some of the comments are a
little bit much. Yeah. But yeah,

2820
02:48:16,110 --> 02:48:18,600
we thought about this before it
happened. And I don't know how

2821
02:48:18,600 --> 02:48:21,120
can you guys talk about that?
When it took place? I

2822
02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:23,220
think we talked about it. We
thought we thought it was there

2823
02:48:23,220 --> 02:48:26,100
was something about I tried to
hunt around I couldn't remember

2824
02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:26,400
what

2825
02:48:26,520 --> 02:48:29,640
the it's just a promotion for
something.

2826
02:48:29,670 --> 02:48:33,120
Well, it's well, the military of
course, being brave. Join the

2827
02:48:33,150 --> 02:48:35,730
join the military. I mean, it's
it's Penza. They

2828
02:48:35,730 --> 02:48:38,160
have to do their marketing. It's
more you know, it's more

2829
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:41,250
marketing. Eastwood needs to
keep his movie thing going

2830
02:48:41,250 --> 02:48:43,740
because he's gonna drop dead if
he doesn't keep doing movies.

2831
02:48:44,520 --> 02:48:48,090
Last time I saw him that he's at
the at the local golf

2832
02:48:48,120 --> 02:48:52,470
tournament. in Monterey, guys,
skinnies again must weigh 80

2833
02:48:52,470 --> 02:48:53,130
pounds. He's

2834
02:48:53,130 --> 02:48:54,360
nice. eat a cheeseburger.

2835
02:48:55,380 --> 02:49:01,110
Eat some. Listen to this woman,
Rachel hertz and you know, yeah,

2836
02:49:01,530 --> 02:49:05,760
brief is Snellman Ella sniff
some glue man. Some vanilla

2837
02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:11,160
vanilla supposed to make eat 25%
more. So, all right. I know.

2838
02:49:11,280 --> 02:49:15,180
It's an interesting theory.
Definitely no agenda. Yeah, that

2839
02:49:15,180 --> 02:49:17,670
was my second half a show.
That's that's all I really got

2840
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:21,090
for you on that. Oh, except, I
do want to mention that in the

2841
02:49:21,090 --> 02:49:25,620
UK now big scandal, as they've
uncovered who uncovered this the

2842
02:49:25,620 --> 02:49:32,820
Daily Mail uncovered that George
Soros is backing a 400,000 or

2843
02:49:32,820 --> 02:49:38,040
actually backed a 400,000 pound
campaign against Brexit to stay

2844
02:49:38,040 --> 02:49:41,910
in the EU? Yes, yes. is big
news. Yes. Because that's called

2845
02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:47,790
meddling in someone else's
affairs. He's not British. No,

2846
02:49:48,090 --> 02:49:52,170
he's not. Now it's is it any
worse than the than the Russians

2847
02:49:52,170 --> 02:49:53,580
buying Facebook ads?

2848
02:49:55,140 --> 02:49:57,330
No, they hacked the election
man. Yeah, man.

2849
02:49:57,330 --> 02:50:00,120
They hacked Brexit baby.
Definitely. To

2850
02:50:01,470 --> 02:50:04,170
play this clip Facebook sued in
the EU

2851
02:50:05,790 --> 02:50:07,200
getting sued in the EU.

2852
02:50:08,490 --> 02:50:12,540
Well, Facebook is set to come
under scrutiny and Austrian law

2853
02:50:12,570 --> 02:50:16,920
graduate is spearheading a class
action case against Facebook for

2854
02:50:16,920 --> 02:50:20,760
allegedly breaching privacy.
It's officially filed the suit

2855
02:50:20,760 --> 02:50:21,690
in the Vienna courtroom

2856
02:50:21,780 --> 02:50:26,490
and a closely watched case
25,000 Facebook users are suing

2857
02:50:26,490 --> 02:50:30,390
the social media giant for
rights violations ranging from

2858
02:50:30,390 --> 02:50:33,720
the illegal tracking of their
data under the EU law to its

2859
02:50:33,720 --> 02:50:36,570
involvement in the NSA
surveillance program that

2860
02:50:36,570 --> 02:50:39,180
targeted millions of innocent
citizens.

2861
02:50:39,960 --> 02:50:43,770
None of us are 27 year old
student Max trims has a bone to

2862
02:50:43,770 --> 02:50:47,520
pick with Facebook over alleged
privacy violations. His class

2863
02:50:47,520 --> 02:50:51,300
action lawsuit is seeking 500
euros in damages for each of the

2864
02:50:51,300 --> 02:50:55,200
25,000 Facebook users whose data
may have been shared with

2865
02:50:55,200 --> 02:50:58,080
government agencies or
commercial interests.

2866
02:50:59,250 --> 02:51:01,650
Europe are not enforcing our
fundamental rights right now.

2867
02:51:01,710 --> 02:51:05,130
There are almost no penalties
there is hardly any lawsuits

2868
02:51:05,130 --> 02:51:08,700
ever. And that is the basic idea
to say, you know, guys, this is

2869
02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:11,220
a fundamental right in Europe.
So constitutional like right,

2870
02:51:11,700 --> 02:51:13,680
you have to stick to it, you can
just you know, ignore it.

2871
02:51:14,190 --> 02:51:16,890
Facebook is trying to get the
litigation tossed out on

2872
02:51:16,890 --> 02:51:20,520
procedural grounds. The company
insists the court in Vienna does

2873
02:51:20,520 --> 02:51:24,090
not even have jurisdiction. And
it questions whether SRAMs has

2874
02:51:24,090 --> 02:51:27,900
the right to bring the suit on
behalf of 1000s of others. The

2875
02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:30,570
judge will rule within a few
months and whether the lawsuit

2876
02:51:30,570 --> 02:51:33,990
is admissible. Experts say it
may become a test case for

2877
02:51:33,990 --> 02:51:36,000
European data protection laws.

2878
02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:41,160
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that
clip was from five years ago.

2879
02:51:41,190 --> 02:51:41,550
Yeah,

2880
02:51:41,550 --> 02:51:45,900
I was waiting for it. Good one.
So they still haven't still

2881
02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:47,970
haven't sued him what's going on
very data.

2882
02:51:47,970 --> 02:51:51,360
No, this hasn't been brought up
in the conversation sense.

2883
02:51:53,460 --> 02:51:56,310
It's a very odd it's a very odd
world we live in John.

2884
02:51:57,450 --> 02:51:59,490
We keep we keep everyone honest.

2885
02:51:59,820 --> 02:52:05,760
We try. That's for sure. Dan, we
will try to do that again on

2886
02:52:07,380 --> 02:52:11,160
Thursday, episode one double O
eight of the best podcast in the

2887
02:52:11,160 --> 02:52:14,220
universe. Please remember us at
divorce. act.org/na. It's your

2888
02:52:14,220 --> 02:52:15,840
show. You make it happen.

2889
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:22,980
And don't forget if you got a
new one, I put it to put the

2890
02:52:22,980 --> 02:52:30,120
date $214.18 with a Valentine's
Day, call out to some loved one

2891
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:33,660
in we'll go in the newsletter on
Wednesday, which is produced on

2892
02:52:33,660 --> 02:52:35,040
Valentine's Day. Oh,

2893
02:52:35,220 --> 02:52:38,700
ah, okay. So Oh, that's nice. It
will come out on Valentine's

2894
02:52:38,700 --> 02:52:42,450
Day. It's a perfect, perfect.
Yeah. That's a good idea.

2895
02:52:42,930 --> 02:52:46,080
So you still have a little three
days, two days.

2896
02:52:46,110 --> 02:52:48,510
All right, everybody getting on
that operators are standing by?

2897
02:52:49,560 --> 02:52:53,970
Yes, they're standing by the
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02:52:53,970 --> 02:52:56,400
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2899
02:52:56,400 --> 02:52:59,430
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2900
02:52:59,430 --> 02:53:02,370
clue do in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.

2901
02:53:02,730 --> 02:53:05,970
And from Northern Silicon Valley
when the trains go by am John C.

2902
02:53:05,970 --> 02:53:06,870
Dvorak. We return

2903
02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:11,670
on Thursday right here on no
agenda until then. Adios mofos

2904
02:53:20,670 --> 02:53:26,400
don't need to know agenda they
give us as we get there we

2905
02:53:26,460 --> 02:53:33,960
donate to and no agenda is
really unique. Donate to no

2906
02:53:33,960 --> 02:53:41,670
agenda. This John Adams be the
only two with no agenda. Science

2907
02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:43,650
is turning into a clean

2908
02:53:43,740 --> 02:53:47,880
Texas State student is
considering legal action after

2909
02:53:47,880 --> 02:53:53,310
she claims. Spirit Airlines told
her to flush her support Amster

2910
02:53:53,310 --> 02:53:55,830
down the toilet and she did it.

2911
02:53:56,850 --> 02:54:05,550
Ma Berg's I'm ready to go. I'm
stepping inside the store to

2912
02:54:05,550 --> 02:54:08,160
break your friends

2913
02:54:18,270 --> 02:54:32,790
motion support they will let you
board you got it. So I hope that

2914
02:54:32,790 --> 02:55:00,480
you flourish please don't try to
hold on to the Skowron

2915
02:55:06,120 --> 02:55:15,990
excuse me, you don't know Jesus
Christ almighty is that a rat?

2916
02:55:16,890 --> 02:55:32,700
Could be a hamster. MoPhO
vortrag.org/in no agenda shall

2917
02:55:32,730 --> 02:55:34,320
look at kick to the crotch