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Adam curry, John C Dvorak. It's
Thursday, March 22 2018. And this is your award winning Gitmo
nation media assassination episode 1018. This is no agenda,
acting as your belt of truth and breastplate of righteousness and
broadcasting live from the Capitol the drone Star State
Austin Tejas in the studio in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's pouring rain and I'm
pouring tea. Single Source autumn flush Darjeeling. I'm
John C. Dvorak.
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Well, I just heard podcast players around the globe turn
off for the people who thought let me check out that no agenda
show. The hell are those guys talking about?
He overshot by it looks like one word.
That's all right. I used your from your newsletter I used
effizienz 1018 666 1618. Yeah. act as your belt of truth and
breastplate of righteousness. Yeah. Nice. Very nice. And may I
compliment you on a double easter egg? In the newsletter,
there were two Yeah. That was well one was hiding in plain
sight. One was the boob donation. Oh yeah. Which is
always one it was one of the album covers. With the better
one was the album cover of the guy taking a shower or something
with his you know just his naked chest and underneath your foot
Scoble. KU Scoble, what is this? What is the Scoble? Like,
did you dredge up the picture? Yeah, of course.
It was very funny. Congratulations. Somebody got
it.
I'm sure more than two or three people got amused by that.
That was without a doubt. And you've been on an on a tear. You
had your column you plug the show and your PC mag column.
Very good.
Oh, that got in good. I didn't see it. Yeah, I
did. And you said my podcast partner, Adam Curie. And then
you went on to say like, how I couldn't figure out our Amazon
stuff. And
no, I never said that. I said, you're having some difficulty
because the system was screwed up.
Right? And then you said I fix that later. You did you claim
that you fixed it?
Well, that was an edit mistake. I didn't say that in the
original call.
Okay. Just so you know, everything this show does
everything all. I mean, I have the clips. Everything else is on
Amazon. If Amazon goes down, which is the crux of your
column, we're screwed. That's just no show notes. Were done.
Oh, run out? Well, the crux of the column was exactly that.
Because no one ever considers this.
I consider it a lot. You kidding me?
Yeah, maybe? Well, you consider it but a lot of people don't I
don't think and they you know, they get the glacial service and
they put all their backups up there orientational service
exactly like that a lot. And they think well this is great.
And they used to say the trigger for that column was partly you
saying well, you know Amazon's a good bet because they have to
keep their own yeah if
they go down then their own shit goes down they lose billions a
minute or something like that but
but no one considers the fact that they just because it's
happened at the companies have done this they just say you know
we're done. We're
done. Shareholders here's your money back we're done. We're
just gonna quit we're gonna go well that's what we should get
into face bag in a moment. I'd like to first mentioned that.
The Boston bomber the south by bomber has been killed. He blew
himself up we think.
And it was
his whole story was I got to tell the bomber. I gotta tell
you because I was. It was was it Sunday night? Yeah, of course
show day. And we had the the FedEx explosion and other ones
was found at FedEx. And then there was an incendiary device
that went off in a goodwill, which immediately was pegged as
the bomber strikes again for at least an hour and a half before
they figured out. It wasn't a bomb. But it was an old World
War Two thing, whatever. And we're sitting hanging out and
it's very weird to be in downtown Austin and have the
news reporting how all of Austin terrorized tonight. And I looked
at Tina, I said, You terrorized she said, No. I'm worried. And I
did find myself honest to God, driving behind the UPS truck and
taking an extra 10
yards distance on the road. Do you think the trucks are gonna
go Oh, no,
I'm just driving it like Oh, man. What are they gonna do you
see the doors?
Say that qualifies as you being terrorized. It
was kind of Yeah, yeah. It did feel a little bit like that. But
this thing was just so incredibly strange. And then, I
guess well, a couple of things. What I found most interesting is
how the police use Google search history, which apparently they
got a warrant for. They use cell phone triangulation, and
receipts. And that's how they were able to track him down. And
also, I think the fact that he used some specialized batteries
that were not something you just do not your typical purchase.
And so that's always a mistake. So they went to the the cell
phone operators and said, Okay, in this area where we had the
tripwire bomb, what cell phone numbers popped up? And so they,
you know, they looked in that timeframe. And then they just
selected those numbers. And I guess they just went into their
little database, or maybe they got a face or I don't know what
they did, not a face or why they got a warrant. And from that,
then they had his IP addresses from the phone. And from that
they went to Google if it's all true, and it was apparently,
local Austin law enforcement, not the FBI or ATF, which I
found surprising. No, it's all local Austin claim for this.
Yeah, they're
still working on the Stoneman Parkman, whatever it is, school
story. Well, they can't afford this new story. So the FBI
wasn't gonna get involved.
Yeah, I also thought it was kind of good for, you know, potential
Amazon. We're still vying as an Amazon city. Like, hey, look how
we solve everything here. We take care of our bombers here.
Don't worry, Amazon, you can come on in. It's safe.
Yeah, happening.
It's not, it's not. And then once we find out who this guy
is, of course, he fits the profile. As we know, it's all
white men who are doing everything bad. We are the
terrorists. But there's something that kept cropping up
as kind of the first thing that people would mention,
Jesse and we'll continue to monitor that press conferences
motive. Do you think that there's anything in his
background he does has no criminal record. He was not in
the military. He was homeschooled by his mom. No
political party on his voter registration, but a guy that it
was an electrical engineer gone bad. Very bad.
Even. Now, that's interesting.
How old was this kid? 24
He looks like he's about 16 from his photo.
Yeah, he's 24 Tucker Carlson. I don't have the clip. But he also
started off everyone's about homeschooled homeschooled
homeschooled.
Yeah, try to go after the homeschoolers. Ah,
and it's surprising to see how many people agree that
homeschooling is bad when you just peruse through the face
bag.
Little disturbing take much like Yeah, crazy.
homeschool. That'll do it. So yeah, but it was nice to see
that we had all this information about the guy and we had as well
we still don't have as motive apparently left a 25 minute,
voicemail message or something. They called the cell phone
reprogrammed
all the bombs in some detail, maybe couldn't get a job as an
engineer and he's trying to prove he can be a good engineer.
While he was he was a home school as an electrical
engineer, right. Before I went to AC went to went to Austin
Austin Community College.
Yes, you go to a college at some point. That's where he got his
degrees in at community college. He's not an electrical engineer.
He can't get much of a degree there. Except does associate
degree
right. You know. So anyway, it's over.
Yeah, it was short lived.
It was interesting to be a ground zero for once. I just,
I was in Washington. Remember that time they had this guy
floating around. This went on for about a month or two months,
or I don't know how many months it was a goat went on for a long
time, where there's this guy shooting people randomly around
Washington DC. Yeah, in the
car. The guy
was in the trunk of the car. And there was a hole in the trunk
and the rifle, you know, came out of the hole and they shoot
people randomly all over the place. And everyone was in a
tizzy. I was in DC during that moment. And I I remember same
thing that you in the truck and I said I shouldn't be ridiculing
you because I when I went to Ghana to get gas in this car, it
rented
and
so I put I put a I looked at the palms and figure which pump I go
to. And then when I got there, can get by the car with a hose
into the car. I looked around to see if there's any. You know,
what's my visibility?
How big of a target am I? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this is something you do as well. I mean, it wasn't
freaked out. I just was careful.
Right? All right. But with these packages, it was just kind of
I've you know, I'm very cavalier i i You know, with packages
people send me stuff to the house all the time. Like oh,
I'll just open
this on your front of your door. Did you have to pick it up
downstairs? Yeah,
UPS often leaves it right at the door, and they go up the
elevator? Yeah, UPS does. FedEx does sometimes Still
doesn't sound safe.
And I think it's because those guys just like cruising around
the, you know, just they don't want to be out driving. And it's
like, I'll just drop these off. I don't know maybe they visiting
people here. Hey babies me again
FedEx guy.
How you doing? Toby run India,
it means the modern version of the mailman.
Kinda I do know we had a UPS guy here as he still works to route
but he was he looks like a male model. And I bought about 1010
or 15 years ago when you know when all these would during
the.com thing everyone quit web to join web ban and all these
other things but he stuck around. And he was funny because
besides looking like a male model, everyone's he comes to
the door very late. All disheveled.
So I was down the street man. Like it took me a little while.
So she
would be delivering till seven, eight o'clock. It's quite funny.
Yeah. Well, we
got hot chicks in the building. Obviously. 29 here on the 29th
floor. Yeah, yep. And then we got an Instagram star in the
building.
You do? Yeah.
I forget her name. But she I see sometimes artists when she you
know she just fashion Instagram star. And so yeah, so she
she gets paid by makes more money than you know show. Oh,
yeah.
She's on the 38th floor. She got dogs. Of course. See you in the
elevator sometimes like
dogs did issue their dishes up deal. I'm the pod father wasn't
for me. You wouldn't have a
job. Now give me that dog.
Oh, boy. Well
Oh, by the way while on the topic Am I still play this clips
on? I have a lot of clips today. But I do have one that you know,
here we are again. Kind of blowing it. Laura not blowing it
depending. But there's a new new ABC sitcom. Oh, yeah.
Okay, let me check it out.
Alex is a family man. starting his own podcast. I wonder why
someone with a good job of wife, two kids and a dancer's body
would do something so risky. That's because no one can tell
me what to do. Sorry, honey.
Now the real work begins.
Why are you wearing a security blanket on your head security.
Zach Braff returns to television is bad drunk. No, sweetie. Yeah.
New comedy premieres next Wednesday on
ABC. Yeah, I've known about this, about this show. And it's
very sad. I mean, when when you help invent something, you
create a entire sector profession. And then basically
with this sitcom, podcasting is now the Mall Cop of
broadcasting.
Exactly.
Everybody, I'm your Mall Cop of broadcasting. I'm going to run.
That's right. That's where we are. We're not much better than
that. I'm sad. They didn't give me a cameo.
That would have been this thing could run for decades. You get a
cameo.
I have a feeling a sitcom about a podcast doesn't have a decade
run in it.
I get the same feeling
call me crazy.
If we're lucky or not lucky, man.
Last night, and neither of us got a clip from it, which is
kind of too bad. Because I thought you'd have at least one
and I just missed it. Because I didn't see it. Oh, so it was on
Anderson Cooper show and very odd. It
aired. watch CNN, you're the CNN. I
know. I gotta get I feel bad. I didn't get it. Yeah, it was. I
mean, it wasn't that much to it because it was completely
contrived. The interview was done by this fan girl who I've
never seen before. Maybe you know who she is. Her name is
Lauren Segal. SVGA ll she she's you. She's the senior tech
correspondent for CNN. And yeah, it's very hard to get any
information on her. She doesn't even have a wiki page. That's
how entrenched in tech she is. Yeah, there's one of these cute
girl yo ghost interviews doc smiling at him. So Zack, tell me
what went wrong. Jeff should have gotten these clips. Well,
tell me what went wrong Zaki. She was just licking him. And
you know how this went because you know, face bag just like
apple. They will only allow interviews tightly controlled
with friendlies. I'm sure you know about this.
Yeah, you don't see me interviewing him? No,
and As you know, the questions are known his answers are, you
know, thought about for sure. I think he made some mistakes and
what he said just about, you know, oh we we shouldn't be
talking about should we be legislated but what kind of
legislation like okay, and it was just fun watching the face
back stock, you know this roller coaster ride down the doubt I
told you this would happen. If I told you that I told you they
were going after face bag. And I think what's happened here is
now that the Robert Muller extraction exercise, which we'll
get to later, you know, it's just not delivering the goods on
collusion, any collusion getting collusion. So it's Facebook's
fault. Yeah, that's the ticket. And with that, all of a sudden,
people are discovering there are 1000s and 1000s of apps out
there who to connect to face back that steal your data. Gee,
what a revelation. It's not even stealing you give it to them
with your knowing consent.
Yeah, you have to, you have to click the Approve. There's
anyone when you any after you install even on your phone, it
tells you what it's gonna go doing gonna go do it.
That's the screen you click okay. Without reading. Everybody
knows that was his list.
As you read it, I usually read it as Oh, you're gonna go after
my GPS, my contacts, like I don't care.
By that, by the way with with apps, that's a little confusing.
It's not just an app on your phone, face bag considers an app
to be and I love this when people do Oh, oh, can you name
all these top 10 songs? You know, it's How smart are you in
history, those those are applications, web applications,
that once you click on that, and go take the fancy quiz, which
you can then share with your friends how smart you are. The
only reason for that entire quiz is to take your data. And in the
in the past to take all of your friends data. Yeah, that's what
that's what it is. And if you can do it, it's not that hard.
It's built right into the party.
If you got if you've got no connections, if you're not on
Facebook, if you don't have this notion of that it's not that
hard. It's very hard, you can't do it. Yeah, you have to be a
sucker in the first place.
Let's first go back to 2009. Just to understand the genesis
of face bag and data, which is the new bacon. This is Mark
Zuckerberg on the on the BBC,
people will have a say, and be able to give any feedback they
want on the rules and regulations that govern how we
develop the product.
So who is going to own the Facebook content, the person who
puts it there, or you
the person who's putting the content on Facebook always owns
the information. And that's why this is such an important thing.
And why Facebook is such a special service that people feel
a lot of ownership over. Right? This is their information. They
own it. And they often want to No of course not. They want to
share it with with only a few people just
to be clear, you're not going to sell or share any of the
information on Facebook
with the term says just we're not going to share people's
information except for with the people that they've asked for it
to be shared.
It's exactly what it says. Yeah, but you don't ask for
what a nice catch.
It's, well,
well that was nine years ago so what Yeah,
exactly. I get a little background you're here on the on
what happened with the bag stock. Facebook
is having one of its worst weeks as a publicly traded company a
share, sell off continuing for a second day. Facebook on Facebook
under intense scrutiny. She
almost said face back, she said
Facebook closed. Let's go back and play it again. Facebook, on
Facebook, Facebook,
maybe we need to change at Facebook. I don't know why. I
thought it was funny.
Facebook on Facebook under intense scrutiny since reports
that former Trump campaign consultant Cambridge Analytica
use data including user likes, from roughly 50 million users to
try to sway elections.
Now this is a problem. According to BBC MEC, don't want to use
this one. Now. The problem that they have, and which was kind of
looming over their stock throughout the week, is they
have a dissent decree is a cut no consent decree with the FTC
about using data, which was very specific. And now there's an
investigation being opened,
is the is the issue here. Facebook hasn't been forthcoming
at how accessible all of our data is to people.
Okay. Number one, they are under a consent decree with the FTC
from 2011 where they said that there were privacy issues in and
that every violation would be 40,000 bucks. That's a lot of
money. If you count all 50 million. The reports are the FTC
is opening an investigation. So that's
and that is CNBC, which is only you can take it so far with its
credibility, but Bloomberg had a similar report
this morning, breaking the news about the FTC breaking the news.
As John, read the news this morning breaking the news about
the FTC looking into possible violations of a 2011 Consent
Decree relating to user data. Can you explain what is this?
What was the 2011 incident under which Facebook may have violated
its obligations?
Yeah. So the important thing to know here is that we have no
federal data privacy law. So our agencies are have their hands
somewhat tied and how they look at these issues. But the FTC did
put the Facebook under consent decree in 2011, because it had
previously allowed user data to be shared without getting
consent from the users. And so now they're required before they
share any data with third parties to make sure that people
are able to give what they call explicit informed consent,
which is that screen that you click on, so you have to be
aware of what that's what Yes, your explicit consent, okay,
data, they're going
to be sharing, and you have to be able to say you're okay with
it, or you're not okay with it. So, because they have Facebook,
under that consent decree, they can now look at the Cambridge
analytical situation and ask questions. What happened? Did
Facebook violate terms of those previous agreement of that
previous agreement? And what did users consent to? And what did
they know about how their data was being used? So that is going
to take a little while we understand that face, Facebook
has received a letter from the FTC According to our sources,
and that it's sort of a formal, you know, full fledged
investigation, but they're starting to look into this
matter and ask the questions about what happened.
And what if any enforcement teeth does the FTC having a
situation like this? If the Facebook were found to be
involved with Facebook Nice?
Well, because of the the consent decree, they can now if they
find violation, they can find them up to $40,000 a day per
violation. So maybe it doesn't sound like that much, you know,
with a company that makes billions of dollars. But if you
start to add up violations and days, quickly go to run into the
millions, if
not, how about trillion
dollars per day per violation, especially given Facebook's user
base that could be pretty hefty,
pretty often happening is not half either way. They keep
breeding keep beating around the bush, about the what they're
talking about what happened in 2011, which is Fraley versus
Facebook, we have one of our producers that was involved in
this class action suit. And if you remember, this was I'll read
it from the from the wiki page is a class action suit filed in
California against Facebook alleging misappropriation of
Facebook users names and likenesses in advertisements
called sponsored stories. We all remember this. Yes, the case
resulted in parties reaching a settlement. So all these
millions of people this is you know, that's about $40,000 A
violation. The guy who was one of our producers got his check
$8.15 or $15, distributed to class members beginning in
November 70. By the way, they had to wait till 2016 to get the
check.
Nice. Yes, lawyers, meanwhile, bought their own island.
Oh, yes. Well, they paid out on the deal.
So so just for the background for people who are new to the
program, and but the most no agenda producers understand how
this works. But this was the big deal in the advertising and
mess. I can just say communications messaging PR
world, which is what we're talking about. It was the social
graph. Do you remember John social graph? I do remember that
was, and I actually put in a
showing another monkey have a bevy of bullshit.
I put the API for the social graph into the show notes. So
you can go take a look at it. It's just plain English, forget
the commands that you have to perform, but you can see exactly
how it works. And to this day, you still can get a person's
friends list three through the API, you can't you don't have
access to their, to their entire profile and information the way
you do if you give your permission. And that, that what
that is a change. But if they're using the same app, then then
obviously, you know, that is allowed, but I guess you kind of
have it already. But this is this is like nothing new. And
we've been rather underwhelmed with all of this from an from a
advertising perspective. I mean, honestly, all we still see is
products that I just purchased. I mean, no one has really come
up with anything so fabulous for advertising. And if anything,
advertisers are walking away, you know, Johnson and Johnson
Procter and Gamble, Unilever, they're all you know, cutting
back their spending is we don't see the results we don't see a
return on our investment. So to now think that this unbelievable
First, what was it first it was data breach. It was fast. It was
a whole bunch of things.
Well, here, let's play this clip just as a little rest beat. This
is from the PBS NewsHour. And this is Amy Klobuchar, who's on
the committee, along with Feinstein and a whole bunch of
people that they're trying to get the grasslands committee.
They're all trying to get Zuckerberg did, by the way, I
will be taking bets on this. Zuckerberg is never going to
testify before Congress. Well, this
was a question yesterday, this in the CNN interview, and
instead of saying, Yes, you said, we had faith. We at
Facebook, always want to make sure the right person with the
right information big
guys, Sheryl Sandberg will be testifying. Thank you.
She's got to be Oh, yeah, she's
the one she's the go to girl. She's from SES. She is part of
that senior executive, she finds the government. It's a home game
because the government gal and she may be a CIA gal, too, for
all we know. So home game breaches or breach
the newspapers, the newspapers say the firm use that
information to target political messages. We're now joined to
talk about this by Senator Amy Klobuchar, a Democrat from
Minnesota who's on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Senator,
thanks for joining us. Thanks, John. I know you earlier today
you sent a letter to Senator Grassley, the Chairman of the
Judiciary Committee, with your Republican colleague, John
Kennedy of Louisiana, calling for hearings and calling for
Mark Zuckerberg to be called to testify. Have you heard back
from the chairman? Do you have any sense of what
just to interrupt for a moment? What I've noticed is the way
media heads talk about Zuckerberg, as if he's a global
leader that you will watch and pay attention like, Ha, is he
going to come will calm down to testify, man, I don't care what
it was about if I was asked to go to DC to testify be like,
Yeah, that sounds like fun. Yeah, absolutely. I'm there. I'm
your man. I'm your go to girl grrl
calling for hearings and calling for Mark Zuckerberg to be called
to testify. Have you heard back from the chairman? Do you have
any sense of what the chairman is going to do that?
Well, we've heard that he is considering it, which I would
imagine he would do. And I think I'll talk to him personally
about it tomorrow, I think it's really important that we one
have a hearing about Cambridge Analytica and get the head of
Cambridge Analytica there, but also do a hearing focused on the
social media heads because we've heard from their lawyers and
their lobbyists and Senator Kennedy and I, Thursday before
this all blew up, had asked Senator Grassley for such a
hearing. And the reason that we did is that one, we see this
political season upon us. And we believe that you need to have a
full vetting of what's going on here. We have ads that don't
have disclaimers ads that don't have disclosures. We've spent
over $1 billion in the last election, it's forecast to go to
three to $4 billion in candidate and issue ads in 2020. And there
are no rules of the road. So that's one thing. And the
second, of course, is this data breach, and I'm tired of a
breach. You know, it doesn't matter if someone breaks into my
apartment with a crowbar, or if the manager gives them the keys.
If they take stuff out of it. It's still a breach.
Under informed woman of the day, yeah, she's the best. And have
you noticed this? I'll call it a I'm gonna use the word this
conflagration between advertising and psychological
messaging psychographics psychographics? Thank you.
That's the word I'm looking for. It is the new hot term. So this
is a bit different for sure. That term in 1975. It's still
hot baby. You should be writing a book about it. Too late now.
psychographics? Yes. So this is very easy transition between
what Cambridge Analytica actually does, I think we have a
pretty good understanding of what they claim to do. Like now,
okay, we figured out who you are. And then we're going to
make the claim is make sure that you get all these crazy messages
of fake news stories. But yet, everyone's talking about the
advertising Accountability Act, which is, you know, the only
legislation I know of so far, that in the way it's explained
to me, I have to see it first. The way it's explained is just
like on television, it has to say I'm Donald Trump, and I
approve this message. And so for some reason, that's a big deal.
I think there's gonna be a lot more and
you just am Donald Trump and I don't approve this mesh message
is that still okay?
I think that's a that will be very funny actually. Yeah. Maybe
at least it makes it clear. So wait, so this all kicked off
with a whistleblower and or a so called whistleblower yet you
whistleblower Well, he's not even sketchy. He he he didn't
work at the company when they were doing any deal with the
Trump campaign if if anything was done at all, and this guy
isn't such an obvious shill, and not like a shoe like he's being
paid to do it, but he's been pushed forward as a hero and
just look at him. Pink hair, nose ring, Clank he'll the way
he talks like, oh, okay, there he is virtue signaling. And I
had to take this interview and cut it into a couple of parts
because it shows you how flimsy this whole argument is, besides
the actual facts of it, like this is happening all the time.
And it's not that successful To our knowledge, but here is
Christopher Wiley. on The Today Show.
Christopher Wiley is with us now from London, Christopher. Good
morning. Thanks for being with us. Hi. Hi. It's good to talk.
As we just saw, you've said that Facebook obtained improperly
obtained data for up to 50 million Facebook users. And the
point of this was to develop personality profiles, and then
target political advertising to them. My first question is
pretty now notice
what she says political advertising. But that's not what
is really going on here.
Simple to your knowledge, did the Trump campaign in 2016 Use
that improperly accessed data?
Well, let me be clear, I left Cambridge Analytica before it
joined the Trump campaign. What I do know is that the company
had been in talks with Trump before Trump had even announced
his candidacy. But you'll have to ask Cambridge Analytica
directly if they were using
the How can you be classified as a whistleblower? If you not only
don't work there, but you didn't even work there when the so
called infraction occurred? How can you it's not a
whistleblower? It's just
a just former employee. That's yeah, that's it former employee
that doesn't know that much because he wasn't there at the
time. Why are we interviewing this guy? Why does this somebody
this is the new Today Show, by the way, which I can't watch. I
can't watch Savannah, who's brain dead. She used to be just
a newsreader and Hoda, who's really a personality type that
should have worked with Kathie Lee Griffin, most of the time
joking around and drinking, you know, drinks drinks. Yeah. And
that's fun. That shows pretty for me. I think it's a great
show. And I think I didn't realize until recently, I think
I always kind of knew it. But Kathie Lee Griffin gift and I
will say this referred Kelly, Kathleen Kelly leave Kelly Lee
Griffin, Griffin and the other one. Ripa those two women and
rip, I think got her chops from Kathie Lee and also Regis
because Ripa and Kathie Lee are fantastic broadcasters. Yes, I
totally agree. They're fun. They're
like, on it. They got the rights, night attitudes, they
got punch lines, they're kind of mean spirited in a very funny,
polite way. It's absolutely fun. I can't, I really don't like to
turn those shows on because I get riveted. So I don't watch
them that but
those two definitely should consider doing a podcast, for
sure.
But you'll have to ask Cambridge Analytica directly if they were
using this misappropriated data for Donald Trump. But what I do
know is that this was the foundation of Cambridge analytic
at Cambridge analytical was founded on misappropriated data
of at least 50 million Facebook users. And I want to bring
attention to that so that people understand that their data is
being used improperly by this company. That has also been, you
know, in talks with Russian oil companies. Oh, that was using a
psychologist who was going back and forth between London and
Russia, also working on projects that were funded by Russian
funds in Russia.
They were they were funded by Russian funds in Russia. Well,
no, maybe he should have added rubles,
also working on projects that were funded by Russian funds in
Russia on profiling people and their personalities. So I think
it's really important for Americans to know what this
company has been doing with their data. And it's really
important, I think, to find out, was this data used to help elect
Donald Trump?
You know, you can't find much information on this Jumoke I'm
wondering if he doesn't work for Facebook right now. Instead, you
know, just to throw this all of this decides track really, and
so misappropriation of data, etc. Yeah,
well, I've always my thinking has always been that Facebook
saw this as income loss. Well, yes, because Cambridge analytics
did a did a workaround so
let's let's make sure that we do it properly. I'm I'm just I'm
despising the talking heads. You keep saying Cambridge analytics.
It's Analytica?
Yeah, I can't Cambridge analytical. Thanks like
Cambridge Analytica did a work around instead of having to buy
this data from Facebook and spend, probably God knows how
much money which I'm sure they could get. Because Facebook's up
for sale, they sell this stuff. That's the idea of that's their
business about it constantly, they asked this business.
Instead, they did it sheep trick by creating this app that kind
of went in and just did scraping. It went in there. And
it's like, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, stop. That's incorrect. John, that's you're
wrong about that. This was a part of the API that they
changed at the time. You have the app, and you could get the
social graph, the entire social graph of all of your friends now
they've limited that, but it was not scraping. This is what
everybody was doing. You could bring it right in there was the
part that was not legal. Is the professor who did the study,
then transferred that data to a third party, whether he sold it
gave it I think is irrelevant. Well, that's what so there was
no scraping, please.
Okay. We won't say scraping, but they suck the data out. Yes.
My data. Yeah. Precisely.
They sucked it out legally. Well, she This is the part I'm
not clear on?
Yes, yes, yes, yes. The
way they didn't pay, but they didn't pay for it, the way
they acquired. Now, in the early days of face bag, the API allows
you to not only get all of all your all your information, but
and you know that you can see it in the API handbook, because
like you all these different pieces that will pop up as do
you have to give, the user has to give permission. And in the
early days, you automatically with the API then got the same
information from all of that person's friends. That was
completely legal. Nothing wrong with that. The professor who
then you sign an agreement with face bag, okay. It's the same
thing now, like, I won't disparage face bag, I won't use
your logo inappropriately, and I'll do everything properly. And
I won't transfer the data. So that's the only thing that he
did wrong. But getting getting the data of 10s of 1000s of
developers. Now you can still get all your data, if you
participate in that silly thing. And you can get that person's
friends list, but you can't get all of their data, which, of
course does mean that you can say, oh, this person took the
test, then I'm going to throw up an ad that says, Hey, your
buddy, just you see this all the time, your buddy like this test
or your buddy did this test? Would you like to take the test?
And then you take the test? And they have
Yeah, I understand that apart. Now. If they once they get all
the they get the 50 million bits of Yes. Or all the million
profiles of Facebook users? Yeah. Now so they if they just
keep it and keep using it over and over and over? Different?
That's okay. Because it's a real minor 10 Why's everybody all
bent out of shape? Because misinformation, and people don't
fucking read anything?
I don't know if this is that different than reading.
Fucking reading is very hard. It's like to it's like patting
your head and rubbing your tummy at the same time.
Now I have two things I want to say. First of all, if this
operation Cambridge, a, they they're going to use the Get
this all for political advertising and all the rest of
it. Does anybody put two and two together and say, Wait a minute,
even with all this data and all this information, which Facebook
also has obviously, yeah. You still have Procter and Gamble,
Unilever, all these smart, smart guys bailing out because the
advertising doesn't work. Yes. So how is the political
advertising suddenly going to work? When soap advertising
doesn't work? Can you answer me that? No. Now the second thing I
do want to mention is about Zuckerberg in the fact that they
did he won't speak because Klobuchar and all these guys are
anxious to get him up on the stand not knowing the guy's
going to come out there with a T shirt. He's autistic, he's going
to sweat, sweat, he's got nothing to say. He's just kind
of an autistic savant that kind of he's not a true CEO. He's
just
again as a global leader.
Do they think that the shareholders of Facebook
wouldn't allow it if I'm a shareholder in Facebook, I do
not want this guy going before Congress because he could sink
the company
you know you are one of the few who is still a shareholder of
Facebook looking at the chart today. Listing selling off like
crazy I'm sorry that it's so interesting that with all these
violations all that doesn't matter what happened to face
bag, there was really no blowback once it started
affecting the stock price just a little bit then everybody now
we're all know oh my god, now we got to do something. You know
that all of these lawmakers all So have Facebook in their
portfolio. It's
exactly what it is they wanted to they want to bring this
instead of having it going to the shareholders meeting and
asking the CEO stuff, which is what you're supposed to do.
Yeah, they're gonna bring him in. What's it? What's it? What's
it oh Frasier bring Mohammed to the mountain to Muhammad. Yeah,
bringing them out into Muhammad. So they're gonna bring him in
and start out grilling and whether they should sell the
stock or not.
Yeah, that's all they care about. Yeah, I got a couple more
clips of this Jumoke Christopher Wiley. And so now now we're
going to bring in the terms that we love to hear the terms that
were you know, these weaponize data that is so strong that
Johnson and Johnson and Procter and Gamble are not picking up
these arms
to that last question you pose as you say, you left in 2014 So
you don't know if this data was used by the Trump campaign but
but let's talk about what it was used what
I what I do what I what I do know is that Cambridge analytic
was meeting with Korea.
He's trying to reestablish his credibility here. This is this
is a very flimsy witness on the stand and right now
they gave him a blog probably that like, as you know, X amount
of time that she has to now fill it the guy's a dud. She's got
known as her responsibility to bring something out and this
guy's wants to get some publicity. Yeah, this is like,
this is the today's today's show is like this. They really is
very poorly produced
by the Trump campaign. But but let's talk about what it was
used what I
what I do, what I what I do know. Politico was meeting with
Corey Lewandowski in 2015. Before Trump had even announced
and offering the services that I'm talking about right now
and what we're and that's what I wanted to get to Blaine, because
you were one of the the founders of this research. Yeah. Can you
explain how it would be used? I think you've even used the term
weaponized data how, what would it be used to do?
Yeah, I think what's really important for people to
understand is that Cambridge Analytica was birthed out of a
company called SCL group, which is a military contractor. This
data was used to create profiling algorithms that would
allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities and people.
Mental vulnerabilities, well, how come you can't find out
who's going to turn into a shooter you did? If you can, if
you can find mental vulnerabilities. Now you got my
interest? Every crazy person who shot people up posted on face
bag? Yeah, don't your algos recognize that
would allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities of people, and
then map out ways to inject information into different
different streams or channels of content online so that people
start? Oh, so they inject I just want to make sure I understand.
They inject into streams of content. Wow, this is this is
really
high tech to see things all over the place that may or may not
have been true. This is a company that really took fake
news to the next level by pairing it with algorithms. So
what he's saying now is, is that he they took the data. And this
is not about saying I'm Donald Trump and I disapprove this
message. No, no, they they snuck in fake news into your news
stream, which, as far as I can tell, is not part of the face
bag social graph API. But he takes it further.
So it's different than than political advertising. Because
it seems to me any good political messaging tries to
predict guess at what might appeal to voters and then design
a message to that, but you say this went further, by getting
those personality profiles and then administering or delivering
fake news memes. I'm
calling super bullshit on this. Yeah, you won't be able to place
an ad or would say sponsored posts, perhaps. But you can't
you're not just going to inject stuff like, I'm just pulling
that
add a sentence to a WaPo article. Yeah, exactly, just
snaps in there
to understand that this is based on this on an idea called
informational dominance, which is the idea that
informational dominance. Now I understand is this in the book
of knowledge, I'll play the clip. And all of
this is based on this idea of informational dominance, which
is the idea that if you can capture every channel of
information around a person, and then inject content around them,
you can change their perception of what's actually happening. So
the fundamental difference between what Cambridge Analytica
has done and standard political messaging is that when I show
you an ad for a candidate, it says, you know, Hi, I'm so and
so and I approve this message. It is apparent that they are
seeing political messaging it is apparent that they're trying to
be convinced, but what Cambridge Analytica does is works works on
creating a web of disinformation online And so that people start
going down the rabbit hole of clicking on blogs, websites, et
cetera, that make them think that certain things are
happening that may not be,
you know, you know where this term was developed? Well, I see
if developed by the Navy. Well, if you look at I see exactly the
same thing. But if you look at which guy in the Navy is on that
PDF, Michael S. Rogers now at the NSA, NSA term figures, so
who knows where this kid is from last clip,
and let me mention because Cambridge analytical, your
former employer says you were a former contractor involved in a
quote, patently malicious, malicious attempt to hurt the
company. They say they have a restraining action against you.
Your response to that? And also what are your politics? That's
not true?
Don't get a restraining action against me. That's not true.
It's not true.
Do you have a political political agenda? Because this,
here's where you hear the guy has been trained. The last one,
she's going to ask a question. And he expertly dodges the
question. It seems simple how he does it, but most people would
not be able to do this
a political agenda because this the Cambridge analytical
obviously was funded by conservative interest you worked
there. Is there any political reason why you're coming
forward? Now?
I think what's really important for people to understand is that
this company, misappropriated data of upwards of 50 million
people from Facebook. They misuse that data. That data was
processed by psychologists who were going back and forth
between London and Russia, who are also working on projects in
Russia for Russians that this company was using this data.
Meanwhile, as it was talking to the second largest oil company
of Russia, no man asked you to the CEO of Lukoil, which which
has known links with the Russian FSB, which is their state
security services, I think.
What is she putting up with this
for Is she that stupid? You know, he's an Intel guy. Now he
knows all about the known Linksys, great, the Russian
FSB, which is their state security services. I think you
need to step back for a second D politicize this because this is
about the safety of Americans and the integrity of the
American democratic process. If this this data was was
misappropriated and mishandled by this company, and I think
that they need to be investigated for that.
Wow. Oh my god some some schlub. Now he's giving all kinds of
deep Intel connect showing connections? Is she standing
there flat footed? Yes, that was specific question which he
didn't answer him close to answering. And he didn't even
use any of the good tricks, which in my opinion, would have
been? Well, you asking me the wrong choice, you shouldn't be
asked Yes. And then ask some bogus question and then answer
that. But he didn't even do that. He just went off on the
deep end. And she sits there saying nothing. So I'm telling
you, the NBC has lost, they've lost the plot.
So this really is the interview that kicked it all off. And this
guy was everywhere and spinning the same tail. And you know, and
it really has picked up so much steam that to me, as I said, In
the beginning, it really appears that since we don't have any
other proof about Russian collusion, that you know, now
face bag is the punching bag, essentially. And it's and it's
not stopping there, because we have the the EU's is going to be
very interesting. The GDPR kicks in next month. That's the
general data protection regulations, which are quite
severe. Pretty much any company that operates with your data, if
you say hey, I don't want you to do this, or I want you to take
it off or remove it. They have to comply and there's fines and
I'm sure the EU is you know, they already talked about taxing
tech companies just
to Trump trying to gouge blank
but Cambridge Analytica and face bag in general might have some
issues in the UK.
Every political campaign wants to get inside your head. The
more they know about you, the more they can influence you.
This is the BBC News night.
I think people understand that data is power,
power. As we play out our lives online, we're making things easy
for them.
It is possible to target messages at particular
individuals who will be unaware of the fact that you've been
profiling
them. Are there people out there who know you better than you
know yourself?
This is not a normal company show. techniques to change
people's thoughts and behavior
was Britain's EU referendum hijacked by the American alt
right, using a technique known as psychographics
and rapeseed was the petri dish for Trump. So they said, here's
this company, can it help you?
This is the charge leveled at an obscure data analytics firm
called Cambridge analytical. They now deny they ever worked
on the Leave campaign. But it wasn't always thus. So he's
sucking graphics, or menace,
myth, menace or myth.
You listen to the last DHL plug where I explained the history of
psychographics. No,
I did not. Go ahead spoiler, do you want to spoil it, go ahead
and recap.
psychographics began in the direct marketing community as an
improvement over demographics, which is the way everyone did
everything. They look at a neighborhood and they'd say, Oh,
these guys make $150,000 a year, we think they'll buy a Keurig
coffee maker. Or they would do this or that because they're in
a rich neighborhood. So let's target that neighborhood and try
to sell this product Lexus on here's a poor neighborhood, they
just sell them something else. And so that was you know, as the
society kind of blended a little more, it became a little more
difficult to find these, these key buyers, they came up with
this idea. And it was called it was based on mailing lists
database,
you said something really important there. It was you
needed to bring in the key buyers, there wasn't even
necessarily a guarantee of reaching people. It was just we
wanted to have a story for the for the ad buyers, correct?
Yeah. And in the in that era, it actually, unlike today, if you
wanted to target people it cost, you know, if you didn't target
them, it would cost you more money. Because you know, mailing
costs x amount, it would email in some of the systems today,
it's all free. So who cares. But the psychographics idea is still
in place. So now it's some sort of an evil buzzword, which I
find fascinating. Because psychographics began with when
the mailing list industry in particular started using
something called databases. And what they started to do was take
different mailing lists and do merge purchase, and you'd buy
these mailing lists. And you'd only end the database companies
who handled the mailing lists that you don't rent Atlas
directly, you're to rent the outcome of their work. And what
they would do is they take a, they would figure out pretty
much like they tried to do today with psychographics, they would
figure out that if you subscribe to Playboy, Argosy US News World
Report, and the New York Times, if you subscribed to all four of
those things, you'd have a certain profile, right? And so
what they do is they run these, they'd say, Well, I want
somebody that's like this, I want them they hit they have to
be a outdoorsman. And they have to do this, they have to do that
they show they'd run this database, through all these
different magazine mailing list because everybody's subscribed
to magazines at the time, some sort of some magazines and the
old days, and they lived in certain areas. So you combine
the demographics where they lived with the magazines they
had, and you could have a profile, say, Aha, there's the
guy that I can sell this fishing boat to. And that's all
psychographics was, yeah, and it's why evil bullshit is
bullcrap. That's all it is, is just trying to see well, you
know, where your where your head is at. And you can kind of
reverse engineer it by what you're up to. Yeah, you can do
the same thing on on the face bags, apparently, you can
reverse engineer your psychographic details, by by
looking at what you're
up to. And the amount of money that MTV spent back in the day,
I participated in many black box white box double blind studies
with MTV viewers, and you know, and they'd wanted want to
understand because you know, you couldn't get direct feedback
data from the television, obviously.
Well, I know, but don't remember there was a period of time it
did hit two or three times actually not just a period,
where interactive television was going to be the next big thing.
And the only reason for international or I'm sorry, for
this sort of this interactive television was for to develop
psychographic profiles. And I heard from one guy who is doing
this as in the 80s, he says, you know, we can figure out with
three clicks of the remote control what this person's like,
wait a minute, you knew Ron Bloom in the 80s.
Now, Ron blue, got it from someone else?
Believe me, I've heard the term psychographics. And so many
pitch meetings. Yeah, we can deliver the right message
because we've got the psychographics of every single
one of our users. Now, face bag took that to another level, they
really did you give them all this information, who you're
married to, if you're if you're in a same sex marriage, what
your religion is, all of this stuff is in there
and how you feel that day? Yeah.
That's right. Yeah. I psychographic would be let's see
anyone who's feeling down today and we'll we'll give them an
antidepressant at a very simple psychographic, which I believe
is probably being utilized as we speak. Yeah, I'm sure it is.
By the way, we're the only show that can talk about this in this
sort of detail because we're not subject or care about any of
these things with our particular producer, listenership.
This is correct. That, by the way, is what we call a bridge.
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and we could not stop. Like adolescent school girls. We
could not stop giggling over the dog with the dynamite in his
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And we were very juvenile. It was juvenile. We had one of the
artists who did one of the other pieces. Right? Us. Yeah, the the
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explained to him that we're just having like stupid kids because
we couldn't stop giggling and I think you nailed it. Well, for
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Here's the actual I have the transcript, the meeting notes
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your people in the mouth What are you doing? Doing?
going nuts.
That's breaking the show. You're not supposed to be doing your
recorder. Tonette thing with nuts? Yes, you I wanted to play
just to pick up on our combo. Well, I got a new one. And one
of our producers sent me a phrase from the No abbrev was
the new one. He heard someone in the cubicle next to him say as
huge.
As you guys, you you have a list. Are you putting it Stan in
a paper? Yeah,
as huge.
I like it. Yeah.
I don't know how you spell it, though. Huge.
Do I did get one of the old the parents phrase which somebody
mentioned in an email to one of our producers. And I chose he
said, I said my mom said this too.
I think my mom said this. I know exactly what 20 You're going to
say? sure you get all
bundled up and you got at first thing on and she says you look
like Nanook of the North.
Oh, no, I never heard that. And then look of the North. Yes. He
said I've said Yep, my mom used to make that phrase to
what were you thinking
of? Heavens to Murgatroyd.
Heavens to Murgatroyd, I believe really came from a cartoon.
Oh, I remember. My mom literally used to say Heavens to
Murgatroyd she had a game with my sisters and they play salon
when they were washing their hair. And she say okay, now your
names are Gertrude and Murgatroyd. So she kind of
carried that she
must have been a fan of Warner Brothers.
I'm sure my mom was.
That's all books.
Back to the face bag scandal. One of our producers Michael Z,
who I'll just call Michael Z. Who does a lot of fantastic
work. I put one of his emails, which you'll see so beautifully
researched and carefully laid, I put it into the show notes.
Because he put together a compendium of all of the news
articles, where the press was fawning over President Obama and
this fantastical database that he built and any anybody who was
going to come up against this database, you know, they might
as well just forget about it. Because, you know, no one can
message the way that the President can or with his new
401 C No 501 C four, which is a lobbying group. And so you can
basically contact President Obama and and you know, I guess
a fee, or whatever the deal is with that outfit. You can use
this data and this database was touted far and wide is how
fantastic it was because you know, you put the weapons in the
right hands. It's okay. You Maxine Waters
president has put in place an organization that contains the
kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life, that's
going to be very, very powerful. And who else are the Organizing
for America that he's now shifting to become a 501? C
four. That's right. That's right. And that database will
have information about everything on every individual
in ways that it's never been done before. And whoever runs
for president on the Democratic ticket have to deal with that
they're going to have to go down with that database and the
concerns of those people, because they can't get around
it. And he's been very smart. I mean, it's very powerful, what
he's leaving in place, and I think that's what any democratic
candidate is gonna have to deal with.
Everyone loved it. It was great. Very powerful. Everyone's gonna
have to deal with it. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Makes no sense.
Yeah, it's great when they're doing it. Now, now, Trump, we
got to find some way how to Trump. I got my my two liberal
guys who missed out your lib,
lib, lib Joe's lib journals. You know, lib Julius Jo's.
My lib Joe's one of them says out of the blue says is pretty I
don't know what they think they have a threat.
Now your lip, Joe friends are journalists who worked for New
York Times and other Wall Street Journal. And yeah, well, the
Wall Street Journal is not a necessarily liberal publication.
It's been. I've been reading it recently. Okay, gotcha. And it's
beside the point. He's, the more he's the most progressive of the
group. And he didn't stay there that long. Just to win a few
awards and left. And one of them out of the blue. And it's just I
think they have a second thread going someplace, I missed out
the whole thing. Ah, it's pretty obvious now from California data
that the election was stolen.
In California. Well, I
don't know what they're talking. I didn't want to jump in.
Because I think the one of these threads is like, I'm not even
supposed to be on it.
So I didn't want to alert anyone to your luckiness am lurking
here.
Oh, it's obvious. It's very clear. And maybe they meant by
California, they meant Silicon Valley as possible.
No, I don't know. Believe me, I have no idea what I'm thinking
guess. But there's something going on. This will be a new
trend is like the election was rigged or the election was
stolen. And they keep jumping from from point to point a
point. I mean, it's hard. It's funny before they come up with
any conclusions or
democracy was hacked. It's my favorite. Democracy was hacked.
Now meanwhile, amidst all the face bag issues, the Google's
are very quietly setting everything up. Hey, everybody,
come on over to us. We know how to do it. And they are all over
the news outfits. They have something called the Google News
initiative. We ha and well, here's a little promo video.
access to reliable quality information should be a right of
anybody, wherever they live.
Today, the journalism industry faces many challenges.
Readership has become more fragmented. And in many ways the
experience of journalism has become more fragmented. How can
news organizations hold
on stop a stop? You have to give some context what is this we're
listening to?
This is the promo video. Where did it appear? It's just a bunch
of talking heads and news, roomie looking is totally stock
footage. No, no. But
where did you see it? Oh, this
is on Google's news Initiative website.
Oh, just saw it's on a website. Okay. I'm sorry. I thought that
was on a news show. No, no,
no, this is their own promo video for the Google News
initiative telling you what neat telling you, you and you should
probably send this link to your lip Joe's because they can
probably participate in this fabulous initiative.
perience of journalism has become more fragmented. How can
news organizations remain relevant in the digital age,
the traditional world of news media is shifting evermore
quickly.
70% of people can't distinguish between a real story and fake
news
disinformation is on the rise. Trust in media is falling.
Journalists are having to do more with less.
A lot of his solutions will come from the journalism industry and
the tech industry working together.
So we're announcing the Google News initiative. Our effort to
enable journalism to thrive in a digital age. It will enable new
models for sustainable journalism, elevate quality
journalism, and ensure that technology allows journalists to
do their jobs even better,
and the solutions to the challenges that they face
facing. door has to come from the right mix of journalism and
technology.
I'm really optimistic about the future of journalism. We just
need to find best ways for it to be able to.
I think there will always be a hunger for high quality
journalism.
I think it's never been more important for us to work
together.
But it's only through collaboration,
that we can do journalism in new and powerful ways.
Because when journalism succeeds, we all do better.
There is freedom. subjugation is liberation, contradiction. This
world, and you will render to them.
All your base are belong to us. The Google News initiative, we
had a little chat after the last episode or, and
what is Phil? Schindler's name ringabel.
Phil, isn't he? The guy who wrote Schindler's List?
What is his name? Ring a bell? Besides that?
I think it'd be the Apple guy. Who does the now that's I don't
know, Schindler. I don't know.
Somebody in the chat room knows Phil Schindler.
So Google is I think what they're saying is partner with
us will give you tech technology and algos and will make you
successful. And if you look at this initiative, they know they
have ways to monetize you've got Google subscribe, this is going
to be a fun one. So finally, they're rolling out their
replacement for RSS Google subscribe and your existing
credit card will immediately pay. And so they're sucking
these suckers in. But as a longtime journal, and you've
been in the news business, you have a very different take on
what they're doing. Because what what you hear in this video is
journalists have to do more with less. And you were saying people
are doing it all wrong, these news organizations.
Oh, you mean my complaint has never ending complaint where a
cheapening the product is not the answer to that was a big
one. Yes. Well, my thinking is the following. And I've watched
this as these, as these newspapers, including our local
papers have started to deteriorate. They for one thing,
over the years, a newspaper has become a kind of a cash cow
because of classifieds. And some of them, and they bid large
department stores that have to advertise in the newspaper, they
have no real other outlet, and so classifieds dried up, it
turns out to be about half of their income, it just kind of
killed all the newspapers. So and they were starting to lose
subscribers because of various there's a lot of reasons they
lost are losing subscribers, but instead of improving the paper,
by improving the content, making it more accessible, maybe doing
something, you know, better reporting, they started about 10
years ago, they started to cheapen the product, pay people
last night use more syndicated stuff that's got nothing to do
with anyone local. You got it. You know, you get the New York
Times Syndicate, you're basically a clone of the New
York Times. So you started cheapening the product,
expecting people to like buy Gallo, you know, where they can
make a really high quality product? And they kind of
cheapen it or and right on the cash cow aspect. And other
people that, you know, you start off with a really good price.
And you cheapen it to make money. That strategy doesn't
work with a newspaper. And that's what they've been doing.
So the products are junk. I mean, most newspapers are, you
know, they got low paid reporters where they used to
have high paid reporters, people with no background in the in the
topic, because there's a, there's a thought that the J
school started to promote, which is why you don't really need to
know anything, you just need to know how to report. And of
course, you never asked the right questions, because you
don't know the business and so you never get the right story.
And so it's always missing important information. This is
just the way it is. And I don't know what these guys are talking
about.
Philip Schindler the reason why he was involved in this is the
VP of global sales. He's the sales guy.
Okay, well, he's also the blogger I'm looking at their
blog.
Of course it's a sales operation has nothing to do with
technology. There's no There's no beginning
to do a news deck with no news sales.
Make sense? Exactly. We
make more money. Exactly. Especially for some of these
companies is the guy in the in the CEOs office smoking a big
kind of a half smoke cigar. cigar is missing.
You know, what's interesting, though, is NEWS is changing.
And, you know, news business business, they should be careful
because they're starting to cut out the middleman. And what I
mean by that is, you know, it used to be you really wouldn't
use an anonymous source unless you wouldn't use anonim source
he would say it was this person who said that you wanted someone
on the record. And now that's become an anonymous source deep
inside the somewhere who spoke only on
someone familiar with the matter. Yes. all time favorite.
Someone spoke on condition of anonymity, which is always the
second part to that. And thank you. So now we've taken it one
step further, actually a step back to the 70s to Operation
Mockingbird is not just some crazy conspiratorial theory of
dreamt up, you can bring it and you'll find out what it is,
which resulted in the church commission, committee commission
committee, who then outed all of these CIA assets who were either
handing off stories writing them for the news for newspapers, and
even CBS Television was implicated. And but books and
books but some of them just weren't there. And so we kind of
cleaned that up, I think, I don't know. I wasn't really
aware. Probably not.
We still see these guys floating around. I think CBS by the way,
I've been thinking about this. I've been looking at CBS because
they got a new news. They got a new News, the news director as a
young guy, and then they brought in a political director of CBS
Evening News is a woman who used to work on the Rubio campaign.
Yeah. And then I look at Jeff Glor, and then I look at Scott
Pelley, who was fired for reasons I've still not, I still
don't fathom, if you look at Scott Peles Wikipedia pages guys
won 1000s of awards, but it's pretty apparent by some of the
obscure interviews. He manages to get that he was connected. I
think he's got the gray hair. He's got he I think he may be
the one of the last guys. And now I'm starting to believe
possibly John Dickerson, who I like a lot as a reporter,
because he's pretty even keel they used to do the weekend and
one of those weekend face, the nation or the other one. And
then they kicked them over to the, to the morning show, which
he looks like he's miserable in it. Because I've had to have a
clip of him on the morning show trying to read he doesn't. He
doesn't like he feels I think he was once a kind of an analyst.
And now he's our news reader. And so when you watch the CBS
Morning Show, he reads part of the story, then it gets kicked
over to the next verse, the same story. He does the opening read
and then Gail picks it up and it's somebody else Nora picks
it. So he's the
Larry he's basically just the handoff guy. He's the he's the
transition man. Yeah,
he's a handoff guys, trans man,
he's a trans man. And you can look in
his face is like, geez, was I getting up too early in the
morning to do this crap. I don't like this job, as opposed to
Charlie Rose, who was on PBS for so many years who could start if
you had that job until they kicked him out, had that job and
he's thinking I'd get up anytime I need to make more money. And
it was a big as a huge difference in style. But I think
CBS has completely cleaned out the mockingbird people. Well,
you are correct, as they have moved over to NBC. And that is
not that is only really embodied in the form of now paid
contributor to NBC. In the form of John Brennan, former CIA
director, he is now a paid consultant on NBC. He only just
left the CIA if you couldn't really leave the CIA. And so he
showed up on the morning Joe's show. You knew about this. I
presume
I saw him on the show. I have a clip of him on the Morning Joe
Show in one of my trump Putin leak stories.
Well, I got three lined up it's probably similar stuff. Play
those okay, we'll start off first with
way before we do that maybe we can play see if I have it me too
movement agenda. Isn't that Charlie or tell your buddy John.
Jason Goodman met with Jerome Corsi recently because of
course, he's got a new book out. He just got cranks out all the
books. He's the one did Obama nation now. He's just trying to
Deep State. I don't agree with all of his theses and some of
the stuff but he does have this this are actually Goodman. This
is an exchange between Goodman and Corsi, and I want to play
this before you play the Brenden clips because it's about
Brennan, we've talked about this before. We had a spook clip that
somebody's talking about this and they saw Brennan and the
play this clip and
Dr. You mentioned John Brennan. Yeah. And of course, as the
station chief in Saudi Arabia, he converted to Wahhabi Islam is
not similar to an intelligence agent in the 1940s becoming a
Nazi or in the 1960s becoming a communist. It's sort of
shocking, isn't
it? Well, the thing that I think was that what was particularly
shocking to me that when he converted Islam, I mean, I'm
going to assume many of y'all are people do convert to Islam.
but that he hid it, and that he wouldn't admit to it.
And will hobby is in the most extreme form.
And so he begins speaking Arabic. He learns how to speak
Arabic. And he begins in State Department speeches speaking
Arabic all first of all, John Brennan comes on the scene.
Because of another book I wrote, you know, the abomination in
which I found out that he was the outside security consultant
to Obama that broke in and stole the passport records, and
sanitized Obama's passport records. And then Brennan shows
up, we have that book right over here. In it, I show that Brennan
was the one who sanitized the records. And when sanitizing the
records of the passport, Obama promotes him to become national
security adviser. And then he gets promoted to being head of
the CIA.
Aloha snack bar.
Nice. Now this is very distressing. We had the other
clip, which you probably still could find, which was a Brennan,
maybe it's the CIA guy who saw him initiating his Muslim
career. And, of course, if you have the thesis that Obama is a
Muslim, which I don't have any doubt about personally, I think
this was this is very concerning. It's disconcerting,
because these are the people that bombed the Twin Towers, or
were given the responsibility, or listed, and they were
hobbyists, or the or a lot of, for all practical purposes, bad
actors, Jew haters, and all the rest. I don't like the situation
in the least. And I specifically don't like Brennan, and the fact
that Brennan is being now used, they rolled him out, to spill
out whatever it is, whatever propaganda he's got on his mind,
I am just very disturbed by this situation. It's
not it's not that he's a Muslim who gives a crap but that he hid
it is telling. Well,
I do give a crap when a when the head of the CIA is a Salafist,
right. This is not not a situation that is, and it makes
you wonder who he brought in, because he while he's running
the place, I mean, he probably brought in some other people.
This is a subversive operation for all practical purposes. And
I think the CIA has been subverted. And I wonder what's
going on. And I know that he's over at NBC. It makes me even
more suspicious about what
he's saying. We don't know what the CIA is. I mean, that could
be anything at this point. And we got new new new Gao coming
in. But Brennan is certainly doing his his finest work. And I
love this first clip, because you can hear mica just gasp so
audibly. He's got a gas grown kind of she's so upset about the
state of the world.
As a director, he just said Our future is in jeopardy. That's a
chilling statement from someone who knows the things you know,
about the way our government works on what's happening here
that first she goes, Wow. And then
she is, she's on edge.
She's coming unglued before our eyes here.
Ah, Mr. Director, he just said Our future is in jeopardy.
That's a chilling statement from someone who knows the things you
know, about the way our government works and what's
happening around the world. What do you mean specifically by
that? Well, I think he's mishandled so many matters. So
just look at what happened yesterday with his call to
Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin was the person who authorized
the interference in our election, Vladimir Putin almost
certainly was involved in directing the poisoning of an
individual on British soil,
not too big statements there right off the bat almost
certainly is my favorite. But you know, just listen to the
fact that he's thrown out there
almost certainly was involved in directing the poisoning of an
individual on British soil, okay, and to congratulate him
and to treat him so nicely. While he treats Americans with
such disdain. I think it just demonstrates that he looks at
the world through a prism of what is going to help and
protect Donald Trump. That is not what presence is
supposed to do. I mean, it's so simplistic what he's doing here.
But it's birth for that show and that audience
and but you know, as former director of CIA, not just from a
couple of years ago, but the most well, almost most recent
one. That's a big deal. These things that he say, he went on.
Oh, yeah, this is so we must remember that President Trump is
completely under Putin's control. He's got something on
him you know, just come on. We all know it just shut up
already. Because clear he's,
which which brings me I know what clip you're gonna play
because it's at the end of my one of my clips,
but
the thing is, if this guy was leading, heading up to CIA, and
Putin has got something on Trump, which is the thesis How
can we don't know what it is,
well, he's gonna be a little cavalier about it now, isn't he?
Is it a war with North Korea that concerns you? In other
words, when you say our future is in jeopardy, what what long
term damage is gonna happen to the country because of one?
Well, I don't know what he's going to do with North Korea. I
mean, the fact that he opted to have a summit meeting with Kim
Jong Un before, really any preparation was being done.
You see, what you're hearing is, we know that it's always someone
who's running the president and CIA was running Obama, and the
military is running Trump. And what you're hearing is, I can't
believe that he just went off script is this. We've heard
about this in the past. It's crazy. He doesn't do as he's
told. Now. What kind of power does the President have? Can you
do what he wants to do? Can you say what he wants? And this is
such an egregious thing he did who just make it into like Pearl
Harbor, who
opted to have a summit meeting with Kim Jong Un before really
any preparation was being done. It shows his impetuousness. The
fact that he is not looking at issues with the type of depth
and sophistication that is needed. He totally ignored the
briefing cards that were given to him his call with Putin.
Oh, no, he ignored the briefing cards. Oh, no. inpage
when encaptured said do not congratulate. So I think he's
mishandled and
they put it in caps, because he's so stupid to make sure he
could see it in all caps on these things.
And the United States plays a very important role around the
globe. And I don't know what Mr. Trump is going to do. But he is
not somebody who's going to study these issues, he's not
going to take his time to think about what's in the best
interest United States. So I am concerned about our future
national security. What do you chalk it up to? Why won't the
president confront Vladimir Putin? Why won't he read the
books and say the things that you say need to be said, just
let him repeat?
Why won't he read the cards and say the things you said needs to
be said to Vladimir? Because Is that is that I'm sorry? Yes, I
guess the it is an actor we always have in the White House.
Yeah, it makes total sense.
Do you believe he's somehow in debt to the President of Russia?
I think he's afraid of the President of Russia. Why? Well,
I think one can speculate as to why that the Russians may have
something on him personally, that they could always roll out
and make his life more difficult. Clearly, I think it's
important for us to be able to improve relations with Russia.
But the fact that he has had this fawning attitude toward Mr.
Putin has not said anything negative about him, I think
continues to say to me, that he does have something to fear and
something very serious.
This is almost like, like high school girls. Well, you went
over to her house, you didn't even say something bad about to
her because you know, she's not my friend anymore. I can't
believe you just did call her out. That's literally what he's
what he's doing here is pathetic.
believe Russia had something on him. I believe that the Russians
would, would not. They would opt for things to do if they believe
that it was in their interest. And the Russians, I think have
had long experience with with Mr. Trump, and may have things
that they could expose something personal, perhaps. Perhaps,
perhaps, I don't really know what it was only the head of the
intelligence.
Why did you say yeah, I can't tell you but yeah, exactly. Now,
perhaps
Perhaps what he could do, but then he didn't he'd be lying.
And everyone someone would call him out. It would be a problem.
last clip.
Mr. Director, we've already had one assault, perhaps an act of
war against the United States by Russia on our electoral.
You forgot to mention Pearl Harbor, an act of war.
John? Yeah. act of war. Yeah. What was it again that they did?
Spent 49 grand on face bag and probe the ports? Oh, yeah,
there's damned ads act of war and
war against the United States by Russia on our electoral system.
And you talked about the difficulty of dealing with cyber
warfare. Do you think today we are less safe today, in terms of
cyber war against our electric grids, financial systems than we
were two or three years ago, we were not paying enough
attention? Well, I
think every day the individuals responsible for the security of
those different types of infrastructure are doing their
best to try to prevent all the intrusions and assaults are
taking place. But the fact that this country has such a wide
array of critical infrastructure, there are
tremendous opportunities for adversaries to get into the
system, navigate, deploy malware, and maybe leave it
there so that at some point, they could activate it. Every
day, we have to be looking at how we can further strengthen
the systems. Because every day, our adversaries are developing
new techniques, new technologies, new ways to
assault, whether it be critical infrastructure or other parts of
our economic and political system. So it's hard for me to
say right now whether or not we're less safe than we were
before. I just think that there are more actors out there. And
it's not just the nation states and security intelligence
services. It's these various kinds plays that have the
capabilities to do this.
There you go, even just be afraid because they can do it
anytime you hack our electoral system with malware and the
grid. If we had a grid that was centralized, you could bring it
down but now
they keep wanting to centralize it who's who wants to centralize
it? I say No,
exactly. Leave it nice and decentralized,
was so this thing that this came out of this, this Putin, Trump.
Trump did this on purpose, because he was told by, I don't
know, maybe the McMaster briefing or someone he was
suggested, you know, these briefings or suggestions are not
orders. No government sees them as orders. That's, yeah, they're
always an order. It's not an order. Who's the president is
not McMaster. So let's go with this. This is the Trump this is
the whole fuss right here. This is the clip Trump Putin call
PBS.
Okay. The snow showed no signs of letting up in Washington
today. And neither did criticism of President Trump and his phone
call congratulate Russian President Vladimir Putin on his
landslide reelection?
What is the President thinking? What are we congratulating for
for being great into hacking into American's voting rights? I
think Putin is a criminal. I wouldn't have a conversation
with a criminal. I think he's afraid of the President of
Russia. Why? Well, I think one can speculate as to why that the
Russians may have something on him personally, that they could
always roll out and make his life more difficult.
So what you're saying is, and I would believe that immediately,
Trump purposely had this information leaked.
That No, I don't think he did. I think he just put it out there.
He made it clear. And so he could, he positioned himself so
it would get leaked, because he's still trying to get rid of
these leakers. And he's got another one in there. They can't
figure out who it is. But let's play this Trump Putin call. This
is they got a new woman unfortunate PBS and I feel sorry
for it because she's in over her head. She's black. She was
supposed to, I guess, you know, you need a black person because
of the you need the multi CultI thing going on at pbs newshour.
But she's not that good. She's a very poor newsreader. She
started just to stop
for one second. No other show. Could you say that? Well, you
just said the phone will be ringing right now.
Yeah, we'd be fired, fired. She's not there are tons of guy
we have a guy over here that I used to work with over at a tech
TV who became a reporter for KTVU called the David
Stephenson, black. And then he's black. And he is dynamite. He is
He can read he's gonna do stand up.
John C. Dvorak, impressed with news rate black news readers
ability to read. Very good. You
know what I mean?
The whole is deeper.
Well, you know what I mean? In other words, he can, he can take
a teleprompter read and he can make it sound like he's this
woman's. And then they, okay, but but she can't read. She
cannot read from a prompter without sounding like she's
reading from a prompter. She shouldn't be on the show.
There's plenty of people that are better than she is, but I
don't know why she got this job. But here's the part too. You can
hear a little bit of her,
but instead took the Twitter claiming other presidents like
President Obama. Oh, she's
a dead reader. She's a dead reader. Yeah. This is horrible.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
But instead took to Twitter claiming other presidents like
President Obama congratulated Putin in the past two. He added
quote, getting along with Russia and others is a good thing. Not
a bad thing. On Sunday, Putin won his fourth term with more
than 76% of the vote of victory some election observers said was
rigged.
Dino She reminds me of the first time Natalie Morris when she was
still Natalie del Conde when she came in and we taught her how to
do television. Yeah, she also would read like that kind of
dead. You know what I'm saying?
Well, that's where we took her off the prompter. That's right.
Cuz she's good at it. She was good at free flow, but this
woman is actually okay as she's not Wow, she's only okay as an
interviewer she does interviews too. She's really she's subpar
for what is a national news broadcast not
she's not as we say she's not yet ready for primetime. She's
just
she's not she's not ready for primetime. But they've got her
she's on prime to see him and that she is she hot? She's no
not. No, not to my thinking. Maybe she has to somebody's a
buzz. She's just not. I mean, there's too many good people
like I just feel bad for people who are struggling to get into
these positions and then they must watch this and go. How did
she get that job?
Well, hello Al Sharpton.
Well, okay, point taken.
What's your name again? Y'all mish?
Yes Something like that. So you got a weird name to Elsa I'll
sindoor keep going I have no idea but anyway I did this is
gonna be an issue with me personally because I says these
are clips are terrible the way she reads. So let's go over to
CBS which has got his more balanced report and in here the
whole Trump Putin leak and I think this is a report that's
far superior to someone who comes up with the line. It's,
you know, it's raining cats and dogs and Trump's wearing cats
and dogs, this kind of with an opening of that.
There we go. Yeah, Michel sindoor is a former national
reporter for the New York Times covering politics and social
justice issues. Woohoo.
In New York Times, New York Times, you know, reporters who
write copy aren't necessarily good on camera. No.
No witnessed the Rachel Maddow Show. She hasn't gone all the
time. That's horrible. All right. Okay.
Here's the report, White House correspondent, Major Garrett.
President Trump's decision to congratulate Vladimir Putin for
winning an election where the leading opposition candidate was
barred from even running, run a raft of criticism from members
of Mr. Trump's own party. I don't think it's a great idea. I
think
Putin is a criminal. The President is being polite. I
think the President knows that. Mr. Putin off with all due
respect is a thug.
Have a conversation with the President defended the call on
Twitter today, writing, getting along with Russia and others is
a good thing. Not a bad thing. They can help solve problems
with North Korea, Syria, Ukraine, ISIS, Iran and even the
coming arms race.
I had a call with President Putin and congratulated him on
the victory in a
briefing book prepared for him by the National Security Council
staff the night before Mr. Trump was advised not to congratulate
the Russian president. That advice later leaked to the
media. Florida, Republican Marco Rubio, I don't like what he did.
But I really hate that there's
someone in his inner circle that's willing to leak this
stuff. And you don't like working for the President, you
should resign your job.
The President and Chief of Staff John Kelly are aggravated by the
leak of what was described as a classified document of the
President held a separate briefing with advisors just
before he telephoned Putin. No advice was given then about
whether to offer congratulations, Jeff,
Major, thank you. Geez,
they made a big fuss is all over the talk radio scene.
Really? It's so it's so interesting.
It's been major.
And what's what it was what actually was interesting to me,
there was a was a hearing on the hill, we're still of course
trying to figure out exactly what happened. How did how did
Russia hack our election? How did they attack Pearl Harbor
style attack our election process act of war? And Johnson,
formerly the Head of Department of Homeland Security, J. Joe
Johnson.
He was should have been the guy that stopped it. Yes. Well,
listen to what he said to Dianne Feinstein.
Let me ask you this first question. I don't understand you
learned about this in August, you did a number of specific
things. You spoke about the dates that you did these things.
And yet, the American people were never told why?
Well, Senator, the American people were told,
not sufficiently in any way shape or form to know that there
was a major active measure going on stops by a foreign power.
Do you say stop? Yeah, stop.
I say listen to this. I'm thinking he's saying, well, they
were told that she's not in a major, major way. And then his
follows languishes. Yeah. Well, that we would expect that to
Hillary to win, so it didn't make any difference.
Well, that's the truth. But let's hear the story. That's
better. And when you hear the story, you'll understand why
this clip hasn't aired much on your favorite television news
programs.
While Senator the American people were told,
not sufficiently in any way, shape, or form to know that
there was a major active measure going on, perhaps by a foreign
power.
On October 7 2016, the Director of National Intelligence and I
issued a pretty blunt statement, saying that the Russian
government was interfering in our political process directed
by the highest levels of the Russian government. That was a
pretty blunt statement. Some people believe we should have
done that sooner. And frankly, it did not get the attention
that I thought it should have received. It was below the fold.
Old news the next day because of the release of the Access
Hollywood video the same day and a number of other events. I was
expecting follow up from a lot of journalists and we never got
that because everyone was focused on the campaign and that
video and debate that Sunday ironic
video, isn't that fantastic? We could have known as much earlier
about Russia, but you ignored me. For the for the grabbing by
the pussy. Everyone was grabbed by the pussy. Now everyone's
Russia, Russia, Russia, why didn't you tell us? Oh, my
goodness.
It's hilarious.
It's, you can't write it. You just can't write this stuff.
There. Now, regarding the the Muller investigation, it dawned
on me. You know, Muller was the guy who was there during 911. He
was he came in right before 911 happened, then, you know, the
intelligence services went nuts. They went absolutely crazy. They
were spying on everybody running around like chickens with their
heads cut off. And of course, we ultimately came up with the
fabulous Patriot Act, which is why we find ourselves in the
police state we do today. And there was a lot of people
complicit in a lot of things a lot. I'm sure a lot of
illegality, let's just leave to the side. If 911 was an inside
job where there was any knowledge, we'll just put that
to the side because it's it doesn't matter. But a lot of
people messed up a lot of people made mistakes. And it was so bad
that they had to have him stay on for an additional two years
against a law that was put in place precisely to prohibit an
FBI director like the crossdressing not job. wishes
were Hoover, Hoover, J. Edgar
Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover, from building
a fiefdom mainly based on sexual evidence male black man a black
male outfit
as a black male outfit. That's his that's his origins is still
has elements of that there's no way you know, you always your
origin story is always going to be in there.
Oh, it's culture. These things don't go away. It's culture. I
mean, that's why culture. That's why you know, Google is creating
the exact police state that its founders came from. And these
kids are both Russians. Yeah, they know what it's like. So
they are building what they know. Anyway, look at what's
happening with the people around this in the FBI. To me, it
dawned on me, this looks like an extraction exercise. Get out
everybody who was really wrong. Who did the wrong things or on
the wrong side of history, law, etc. eject them? I think it's I
think he's it. He's not there to find anything on Russia. He's
there to extract people. That's an interesting
thesis. That definitely starting to fade away if you have them.
Yeah. And
we rarely hear them speak. I mean, Peter strock. Will we ever
ever meet this guy? No. Yeah. How
come he's not on the talk shows us that a Brennan?
And then Andy, Andy McCabe. Is he out on a talk show circuit? I
haven't seen him. It could be I haven't seen him. I know it's
already there. So it could just be cleaning near the rest of the
cleanup. Yeah, clean up the mess. Yes. Anyway, that's just a
thought I had another thought as possible. You know, now that we
know that Cambridge analytic will clean
up and cover up, clean up, cover up.
Now that we know that we're using information dominance,
which is you know, and psychographics, which is a form
all a form of psychological warfare. I'm thinking that we
probably should or someone should indict Scott Adams for
really throwing the election because he used his He's a
trained hypnotist. He hypnotized people on Twitter and on
Periscope. He made them all believe that Chairman is a great
guy. Yeah. No, think about it for a second. I think Scott
Adams is the reason Trump won. And I believe he should be
indicted. Or indicted for what? For hacking for dominance. Yes.
That was hacky? Well, but what's the law against that? If you're
going to indict somebody, you have to have some something to
indict them about.
Hello. Look at the guy. You're telling me he is not but buddies
with Putin. He's got the same bald Hey, it
does look a lot like
come on. I think Scott Adams needs to go down.
Yeah, Putin had Scott Adams. Make sense?
Waiting. I'm just waiting for that to happen. It would not
Surprise me. We can't pin it on face back, Scott Adams with and
it's in Dilbert just look at the cartoons. There's all kinds of
just Trump hair. Yeah, I'm telling you this is how crazy
we've become well,
it's not gonna get any better. No, I hope they come up with
something that kind of stave off this does do that what's going
to be a huge Democrat victory in 2018 like the back cut off a
little bit, we don't want to have the place go crazy. Why?
What's wrong with that? That'd be fantastic for the show. You
care about life who gives a crap about life? We don't care. I
mean, we're doing
is we're going to Maury. Here's what we're gonna get more of.
There is a little battle royale going on between a couple of
books that came out about the same time. One of them is
published by a local publisher Chronicle Books, which is right
down the street from me VO and where they were at Chronicle
Books has got there's two books one is done by I guess the pence
family and the other one's done by John Oliver. is an
interesting story. So John Oliver, somehow found out about
the other book even though they worked on and jumped the gun
with a book that looks the same on the shelves. It looks almost
like the exact same book. And he got it out a day earlier, which
was kind of funny and it's about the rabbit that's owned by
pants. This depends family. It's the bunny books.
Well, it is a book battle
over a vice presidential pet rabbit Yes, in one quarter Vice
President Mike Pence his family. In the other HBO talk show host
John Oliver.
ABC SEVEN NEWS REPORTER Melanie Woodrow explains one of the big
winners in this a bunny battle is the San Francisco book
publisher.
Everyone is different and different is not bad
Chronicle Books President reading from what is now the
number one best selling book on Amazon titled Last Week Tonight
with John Oliver presents a day in the life of Marlon bundo.
In our 50 years of the company we've never published a book
like this. Marlon bundo is Vice President Mike Pence is family
bunny. On Monday, Pence his daughter and wife released this
book Marlin bundles a day in the life of the vice president. But
one night prior stealing the releases thunder was John
Oliver's version, a surprise for readers but not a surprise for
Chronicle Books. They've been working on this project for
approximately five months.
It's truly a standout in our history.
focuses on Marlon Brando's personal life as he falls in
love and decides to marry another male bunny.
This is a very important storyline for us being part of
San Francisco and the culture here. And we really did jump at
the chance to be a part of sending a message like this
standing and Marlon bundo is way the story's antagonist the stink
bug.
He does look a little bit like the Vice President, but he's
just the stinkbug
I tell the rest of the animals get together.
Wait a minute, we need to decide who's in charge. We get to
decide who's important. We can vote.
The story concludes stink bugs are temporary love is forever
Chronicle Books printed 40,000 copies to start not nearly
enough just days later. They're now back on press for 400,000
copies in San Francisco know when he would read ABC Seven
News.
Proceeds from John Oliver's book we'll go to El de GTQ group, the
Trevor Project and eight United
proceeds from the pence book are being donated to a 21 a
nonprofit focused on combating human trafficking and an art
therapy program at Riley Hospital
for Children. Yeah, ha ha ha You know what this is? This is make
sure we discredit and take down pins before we get Trump out so
we don't have to deal with that Yahoo.
Yeah, well that they're being very ineffective with that and
this doesn't do it. All this does is just promote gay
bunnies. Which I think is ludicrous. Bunny can't find a
girl. A gay bunnies. Gay bunnies. That's what the story's
about.
You're right. Beautiful.
Local story.
Okay. Well, another story that actually wasn't local. He was in
Arizona. And wow, we got the video immediately. And I know
why this is the Professor Ted to a portion of the show where the
unintended consequences of technology KILL YOU such as the
self driving Uber car.
And, yes, you have it you have a clip? No, but I do have a note
from somebody that is nearby and
I have this note right here. Okay. And so the first of all,
what was beautiful about the video that was released very
quickly, after Uber immediately said they're suspending their
autonomous vehicle program. You As they released the video first
you see the out if you haven't seen, it's in the show notes and
a show notes that calm, you see the outside view. And you see
this, you see the headlights all of a sudden poop in the
headlights of this road. And it almost looks like a country road
really. This woman pops in front with their bicycle, and boom.
And then you see the interior. And you see the the I think I
had a woman who was the safety driver, who was not looking
she's had some say she's texting, but I think she was
just looking at the screen now just looking down at the screen
and all the pretty colors. And then you see her shocked and
horrified face that she's about to run over somebody. This woman
by the way, is a convicted felon. She served five years for
robbery when they got hit know the one who was the safety
driver. Okay. Apparently Uber has an issue with the hiring
convicted or ex cons which I don't really have a problem
with. But it doesn't matter that job for sure doesn't look too
good in this particular scenario. So we got a note from
producer Brian Kaufman. I live right near where the Uber self
driving accident occurred. And the Uber released video showing
that apparently no driver could have avoided hitting that woman
in a million years is totally misleading. See my youtube video
below, where I drive the same path as Uber autonomous car. And
he also drove at night. And it's completely different. It's
highly illuminated. You could have seen this out of the corner
of your eye. I'm pretty sure. But yet the story because it was
handily done by the crisis management group, whoever
handles that for them. That makes it and it was off while
even if it was an experienced driver with hands on the wheel.
They never would have seen her.
It's bullshit. Yeah, it's bullshit.
And be the videos all be on the show notes.
Yes. And and I think we should stop allowing Silicon Valley
companies to treat us as guinea pigs. What is what are these
states even thinking of Arizona and California, allowing this on
the road?
Okay, remember this news? I think we've maybe had a clip of
the guy talking about it. Some guys discussing the and his
Uber, talking about these autonomous cars in San
Francisco, which they took off the road in San Francisco. And
just as they were showing the thing driving around, and they
show it going through a red light. It's right there. On the
news live. Yeah,
beautiful. Yeah, I need to refuse this. This is not a good
thing to have on our streets. And then I had two other things.
Yes, net neutrality. So YouTube is now officially started
banning firearms related content. So if you want to
write gun safety, no, no gun safety on
firearms related content allowed? I'm not quite sure to
what extent this will go. But this has been one of the great
things about YouTube is to watch people blow stuff up, you know,
hot chicks with with the semi automatic weapons in bikinis
Come on.
Yeah, that means these guys, well,
there's Google here, but they're stupid, because that's that's
the stuff that's ratings but and didn't have
to do it. What was the point? What were they virtue signals?
You signaling? Yeah, it wouldn't have made any difference if
they'd said nothing.
But this is your net neutrality, where you now have effectively
given control to these companies. And now you're
surprised when you can't see what they don't want you to see.
What's the difference between that and an ISP blocking stuff?
Nothing. But no, that's just unlawful content. Unlawful
traffic is next with this story, then this is what we've been
looking at all new net neutrality laws at the federal
level have been abolished. admonished, abolished, but
states are now starting to put these put these laws into place
the talking about it. And it all includes the unlawful content
that's also part of the Backpage law. And eventually, as was
originally written in the net neutrality laws, unlawful
traffic, and now that the story is just breaking, it's breaking
the news. Child pornography is now hidden and being found in
blockchain.
I found this to be fascinating.
Well, but this would make it unlawful traffic you see this is
why I like it so much. Yeah, you'd have to block the chain
block the blockchain is called blockchain for a reason. Block
the blockchain because it can and probably does contain
contain child pornography. It's It's perfect. It's the perfect
setup to do away with Kryptos get everything back to normal
you know, the way we like
it. It's definitely an interesting ploy. While you're
on the topic of lying, do you have a
was I lying? Who was lying?
The government Oh, okay
Uber This is a somatic it's a medically discussing lying
nobody's got child porn in their blockchain. So this is one
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Not that I know of. Now just read the headlines from People
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announcing run for New York Governor unqualified lesbian,
unqualified lesbian. So she had done this was from the other
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is just these two women, lesbians. And Nixon is running
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You know, I Tina and I saw her on TV the other day, and I said
the same thing so she can win. She can totally win. Yeah, but
who is this? And are they saying that they're bad lesbians? Is
that what they're doing in public?
No, she's just unqualified lesbian. What
is how do you qualify for being a lesbian?
No, she means unqualified lesbian running for governor.
She's not all the way she's unqualified. But since she's a
lesbian, she's an unqualified lesbian on top of it, I mean, I
think is very poorly worded. That's what she said this was a
quote from the woman right. But there's a huge just a massive
turn against Cuomo. So he's susceptible to getting now
why why is it Why is there a turn against him to what's going
on? Just a
bunch of things he did. He'd like failed. He failed to be
politically correct in some situations. Oops, a lot of
little things are adding up and I got a dig. Even the New
Yorkers like turned against him. I think he I think he's
susceptible. And I think there's some romance by putting an
actress lesbian actress Yes, as governor gate kind of as a
counterbalance to Trump. It's about Trump. Come on. And you
haven't heard is running the place. This is gonna be just
great. New York has screwed up enough, but this will really top
it off.
Wow, that yeah, that will be fun to fun to watch your beat, your
beat your beat Australia, and pretty much ground central once
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midwifery Code of Conduct has published the as as published
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help people.
I'm joined by a founder of the nurses professional association
of Queensland to discuss as I said to you, as I understand
that this new code of conduct for nurses in Queensland
requires obviously white nurses to announce they've got white
privilege before they can look after patients of an indigenous
or Torres Strait Islander background. Am I right there?
Yes, you
accept that? It's not just Queensland, Peter, it's all of
Australia. There's 350,000 nurses and midwives Australia
wide. And they're all now subject to this new code.
It's extraordinary. So so my sister is a nurse. She works in
indigenous communities. She was the matron of the world
hospital, very big indigenous population as such as a nurse,
but she's also a midwife. So before she delivers the baby to
an indigenous woman, she's supposed to put her hands up and
say, I need to talk to you about my white privilege, not about my
infection control, not about my qualifications or my training as
a midwife. It's about white privilege, whatever that means.
That's right. Now, if I could just quote just a sentence from
this, the new code of conduct which I'm holding here, and the
glossary, which defines it gives a sense of what this stuff is
about. And this is about the glossary of how it defines
cultural safety and the white privilege thing. This is the
sentence in relation to Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Islander health, cultural, cultural safety provides a
decolonizing model of practice based on dialogue,
communication, power sharing, and negotiation, and the
acknowledgement of white privilege. And it goes on in
this particular vein. So it gives a it's a this is really
eyewatering stuff, and we can have a bit of a chuckle about
it, but it has been really serious consequences for nurses.
What are you doing with this clip? How does this stuff get
passed?
Passed? Oh, well, I don't know if it's a it's a it's not a law.
It's the Code of Conduct conduct, which
who puts it forward?
The social justice warriors. Hello.
But does anybody pay any attention to them? Well,
it's a code of conduct. You have to follow the code of conduct
and before you help someone kind of like the show before we start
the show, we should say, Hi, I'm Adam curry. I have white
privilege. And then we start the show. You have I guess, you
know, have to say it up front. You're flabbergasted you're
gobsmacked?
I'm gobsmacked as a good word. Yeah, exactly. I'd give you a
tip of the day but it's so disgusting. And I gotta give it
a cup of tea that you can't have it. But wow, so strong. They're
so good. I mean,
from the free speech Shut up, slave department. I'm sure you
saw or heard about the guy count dank EULA, who Talia Dacula who
taught his dog to Heil Hitler. And now we
are very confused by this story and I'll explain why when you're
done. Okay, well, I
think I can tell you why this the dog saluting Heil Hitler, is
not the problem with this clip. First of all, who gives a crap
the guy's name, idiot, and it's still available on YouTube. I
don't know how that works if you can go to jail, but yet Oh,
YouTube can still have it up there. I watched the clip. I
didn't just take it at the headline value, which most
people do because no one said geez, look at the clip. So this
is what is like 30 seconds before the dog he basically just
giving his paw except that he taught the dog instead of paw.
He said that Heil Hitler. And then the dog raises his paw very
funny, but it's this part that I found disturbing
is always wrong and raving about how cute and adorable have read
augers. And so I thought I would call them and at the least cute
thing that I could think of which as an artsy
Buddha, dry gas the juice to I guess the juice Mormugao seduce
you I guess the juice? Do I get the juice? The juice? The juice?
More than two I guess the juice
so the hot so the whole time he has taught the dog to pay
attention when he says do you want to gas the Jews? Why wasn't
this reported?
Well, there's a question of the day
certainly keeps going
through I guess the Jews? The Jews
the Jews and the dogs sleeping sleeping here Jews
tend to get up no Buddha.
Yes. Get up now. It's time to get up. It's time to get the
Jews. I guess the Jews that's the story that was mind
boggling. Yet Oh, He taught his dog the Heil Hitler. Who gives a
crap this guy is out of his mind.
Great. I can't believe it. I can't believe nobody else ran
with that in this stupid salute, which is just a dogs all dogs do
that. Yeah.
Because I don't know why. That's the story to me. So
why either I saw this well we cover on this show is like what
did these guys ticket ticket paid good money to do report?
Yes. I did want to make mention of the slape net vet in the
Netherlands. This is literal translation dragnet law. And
this is where they had a referendum. Are they in there?
And then all of a sudden it's like well, no, you can't have a
referendum and then they had some local elections of
Dantonio. 47% of people said we want a referendum and we don't
want this dragnet and so shut up slave Long story short, they're
getting the dragnet and what this means in the Netherlands
which I think is a big problem, the global problem because the
the Amsterdam the am six Amsterdam Internet Exchange is
these are important. You Important to exchange points of
the of the interwebs. As as we know them. The authorities now
are up until now we're only allowed to put in a wiretap or
an an internet tap, as they call it on individuals. Now with the
dragnet law, they will be as it's described, we'll be able to
jack into the fiber itself and suck up anything they need
anything.
I mean, like the NSA does already Yes.
Yeah.
Well, that was solar, Stellar Wind was the name of an
operation of stellar wind that would be uncovered. Anyway, so
they're installing that now in the Netherlands. And people
don't want it they really don't like it. They're gonna go along
with it because they're really subservient slaves. They're
having grown up there I can say that.
But it's it's disturbing because you know,
they're always trying to get jacked it was trying to get into
the act
you know it the some nice propaganda that was uncovered
one of our producers sent this to me, you have been talking
about the Nova choc, which is still unclear exactly what it is
other than that Putin did instructed personally to have
this Nova choc virus kill these two people in the UK. That's
pretty much the story we've heard, right?
That's exactly the story we've heard. Okay. As always, it has
to be put in we don't know for sure. We really don't know for
sure. But we was Who else
would it be? And Nova chalks has been kind of this mythical thing
that was talked about they had this, you know, the binary thing
here i airy. And it was, you know, it was whispered about but
no one it really, to anyone's knowledge, it really doesn't
exist send a sample to Russia. Now they won't send a sample.
But on a show TV drama series strike back. I think the title
of the episode was retribution. This aired in the UK. Just a
couple of weeks ago. Here's a little piece from it
felt to mark up as the rising star of the Russian chemical
weapons program. For years we've heard this myth about something
called Nova chunk and nerve gas that was undetectable, easy to
transport and 10 times stronger than any other strain marker was
said to be behind it.
So how can we ended up working in a hospital under an assumed
name because
nothing joke wasn't the myth. The Russians were so terrified
of what they made. They blew the whistle on themselves after
blood in Boston. There was a leak in the chemical plant where
Mark was overseeing its creation. Every single person
working there died as a result, except Marco. He disappeared
went dark. It might have been an accident, but there's a strong
suspicion that mark off deliberately released another
Chuck. This is the man Jane Lowry once
coincidence, I think not nicely done UK.
A very good. Somebody pointed out one of our producers pointed
out that Solsbury is only five miles away from the nerve gas
production facilities of the UK
have Porter down. Ordered down at Porter now. It's fantastic
that this whole thing stinks. It stinks. And by the way, talking
about bad news reporting and missing the point do I want to
play the end? The classic end is on KPI X, San Francisco this is
the news guys how they finished a news broadcast kind of goofing
around, actually.
Sorry. Well, goofy and then you always have to shuffle your
papers.
Yeah, here we go.
I've never seen this offered these girls at the Kings game
sharing a bottle of mayonnaise pass the butter perhaps better
served mayonnaise and deep fried point no where was this again?
Hockey that was at the Kings game Los Angeles. Are
they Canadian? Do they have like the
French fries? Because that's what isn't that a delicacy that
we're not delicacy they're just down a man french fries they
held the french fries in that case
it was like out of control.
Yeah, that's when they all get giddy. It's called pile jumping
is stupid. Doesn't work. Make sure that just doesn't work.
I don't know if it was supposed to be doing that.
Al Gore has finally come out and helped us understand something.
He come out with a bathrobe know the difference between global
warming and climate change? Oh, as according to his Climate
Reality Project. You ready? You might want to write this down.
Global warming global warming applies to the long term trend
of rising average global temperatures. Climate change is
a broader term that reflects the fact that carbon pollution does
more More than just warm our planet. Carbon pollution is also
changing rain and snow patterns and increasing the risk of
intense storms and droughts. No. Does that work? Notice the term
carbon pollution? Yeah, it's not carbon, it was carbon dioxide.
No, no carbon carbon itself all carbon, you are carbon based
creatures. Yes, I die. I'm
part of climate, I am responsible for climate change.
I'm horrible. But okay, no questions asked. We'll just
we'll just go I have a longer segment I want to do so if
you've got something you want to do out of the way? Yeah, I do.
Okay, I only have a couple of clips that I want to talk about
for. Okay, the meat to the here's a good one, we start
beginning and go to your segment, you want me to move.
And I thought this was interesting, because we
predicted this of
mine created a very interesting effect for working women.
Because on the one hand, it's a very, very important moment that
brought to the surface discussions that should have
happened a long, long time ago. And on the other hand, a recent
survey commissioned by the Lean In Foundation found that the
number of men who are reluctant to help Junior women, through
mentorship has tripled through the leaning. So there is a sort
of a backlash. And so the question is how to
the men, mentoring women and as they occupy most most leadership
positions now. So how will women get the opportunity to advance?
I mean, should we say, Hey, can we come to the golf course with
you?
Yeah, that's what you get.
That's what you get inside. But that's what you I think the
thing that was frightening to me is your discussion of your
experience at Kleiner Perkins with the women who are actually
going after men. Yeah, trying to set them up trying to set them
up so they can make a payday
and she had done it before, of course and failed on me. Right,
just in the hashtag me to Weinstein Company, has now been
granted the bankruptcy bah bah. And the head is for playing
thank you for playing the head of Latham Watkins. Big Ass law
is the biggest law firm in the world, I think. Isn't it Latham?
What can I I don't know that.
Let me see. It's okay. Just no big the the chairman William
Vogue is relinquishing his position and retiring from the
firm after engaging in sexual communications with a woman
unaffiliated with Latham
Yeah, that's Yeah. And what it
seems like is he was either on on some chat site he never met
her in person but I guess he was doing inappropriate things. So
probably of the Anthony wiener nature and they want to be ahead
of this so before it came out, so we still may see some great
pictures. Yeah, I doubt it.
Wishful thinking okay, for
ya for this is a little story. This is a course this is again,
our bay area this like you like to bid you buy this first sales
in San Francisco. San Francisco
is poised to become the first major American city to ban the
sale of firm. Supervisors will vote tomorrow despite criticism
from retailers who say it will cost them millions. ABC SEVEN
NEWS REPORTER Carolyn Tyler has the story.
It's estimated somewhere between 30 and 50. Retailers in San
Francisco sell for the big ones in Union Square include Macy's
Neiman Marcus and Saks. For decades they've been the target
of demonstrations by animal rights activists but soon there
may be nothing left to protest for sales in stores and online
will be banned under a measure sponsored by supervisor KD Tang,
I believe
it's necessary to pass such legislation because around the
world there is an estimated 50 million and maybe even upwards
to 100 million animals that are slaughtered each year solely for
the purpose of providing us with first The
city says The ban will cost retailers about 10 to 11 million
a year in lost sales retailers pegged at much higher at 45
million annually and say outlawing for will also tarnish
the brand of Union Square as an international shopping
destination. As head of the Union Square business
improvement district
this is certainly an ethical issue, you know and San
Francisco you know has values but the question is you know
should these values you know be imposed on on individuals and
their right to choose you know, what they do and how they shop.
Okay, couple things first, did she say an ethical issue? I
thought that was kind of funny.
She said that? Yes. And she also mentioned right to choose which
I thought was interesting juxtaposition.
So is this now a law a regulations about the past as a
city as the ordinance the city law
Yeah, as a city you won't
be forbidden to sell any kind of for Right. What are you waiting
by the way they
have it they have a logo. It says the ofor and they shouldn't
in the logo. There's two animals, both coyotes. And I'm
thinking, Oh, hell, where's the coyote for? Somebody at a coyote
coat recently?
Could be I don't know.
I mean, I've never heard of such a thing, why 50 million animals
are talking about usually the bred animals are bred in cages,
like those horrible minks, which are the worst kind of ferret.
Yeah. For fur. Yeah, it's a nasty animal.
It's a very nasty and but you know,
why did they stop? And what I always found effective as a kid
is I found the clubbing the baby seal on the on the pristine
sheet of ice that was kind of effective. I mean, just as
Yellin And and jumping up and down. Why don't they bring that
back that
that way better than the coyotes? Yeah, I
mean, it I always liked the clubbing of the baby see of like
news clipping at
the seals because I think they stopped doing that. So they had
to go to old B
roll. Who cares? I mean, we have the we have, we have the poor
polar bear on the floating piece of ice who's starving because he
can't swim. Apparently, the only polar bear who can't swim. So I
think bring back the clubbing of the baby seals
that would probably be effective, but they don't even
bother just pass a law. That trying to get the public around
here. Everybody's all anti fur, it's fine, as though you need
for in the San Francisco Bay. That's another interesting
point. Another point you don't really need for the only people
that buy those fur coats at Saks is the people who've traveled to
the city and they lived in, you know, Vladivostok and they went
to get a fur coat more inexpensively. Oh boy, I can't
believe they're not dirt cheap in Russia.
They gotta be cheaper there.
Yeah, that's it. Now the lat I printed my last clip into the
rest of the shows yours. Okay. Just a news news item we got to
keep an eye on this is the mumps outbreak. Now there's something
funny about this. You
might have thought the mumps was a disease of the past. There's
been a vaccine for decades, but cases of the mumps are on the
rise among young adults, even those who believe they were
protected. Here's Dr. John Le Polk.
It's the biggest All Star competition in the whole entire
world. Last month, there was a month scare at a national
cheerleading competition in Dallas. More than 25,000
participants and coaches were told they may have been exposed
to the highly contagious virus after a competitor came down
with the mumps. The Texas Department of Health says no
related cases have been reported so far. But at James Madison
University in Harrisonburg, Virginia, there have been 24
confirmed cases since January,
a health scare on the men's basketball team postpones their
upcoming games
health officials are asking students to get immunized if
their vaccinations are not up to date. Even so, most recent
outbreaks have been in young vaccinated adults. A report out
today found that immunity after mumps vaccination lasts an
average of 27 years and a quarter of people lose their
protection. After only eight years. Children get two doses by
the age of six. The mumps virus causes fever aches and pains and
puffy cheeks from swollen salivary glands. Although most
cases resolved, complications do occur in up to 10% of
adolescents and adults. The author's today's study suggests
clinical trials be done to see if these mumps outbreaks can be
prevented by a booster shot at age 18 or during adulthood.
I John, I think the question some are asking tonight is if
they haven't had a mumps vaccine in decades, do you go get a
booster now?
According to the CDC, not yet they are considering a routine
third dose that booster based on further studies that haven't
been done yet, but they are recommending a third dose and
people at increased risk because of an outbreak in their area.
But Jeff, if you're born before 1957 You're in luck, because you
probably already had the mumps and are protected. All right.
Good to hear John Kenny
collusion. This is a bull crap story. I mean, I was born for 57
I don't worry about it. But these vaccines were supposed to
mimic as though you had the mumps Like me Like me. Yeah,
it's both. That's what they're supposed to do. Right? Yeah.
And then right, right. And then after you've had the mumps, you
don't get it again. You're immunized for life. Yeah. So
what kind of bull crap? are they feeding us with these vaccines
that are ineffective? Well, I'm hearing is that the vaccine
doesn't work yet again. Yeah. Yeah, same with the me. That was
the promise. Wasn't that the promise? Yeah.
But we're again, it's just like the Uber. The Audi autonomous
Uber. We're guinea pigs for these people. guinea pigs. You
need a booster now? That's not good enough. No. No, it's crazy
anti vaxxers have no agenda.
Exactly. On that fine, high note. It's all yours.
Yeah, so this weekend is going to be a big gathering in
Washington DC will be the children marching against gun
violence, I think maybe something like that. And I'm,
I'm very upset about the, it's this is political child abuse is
what I'm calling it. You've seen the kids everywhere. And by the
way this David Hogg killed all those kids, the girl with a
shaved head. They're being abused by the media and by their
guardians or parents. And I tell you, I'm going to tell you how
this works. You get out there enough and you get known enough.
The media always boomerangs back at you, when you use the media
to promote something. I guarantee you I've seen it
happen to me all my life, it eventually comes back and you
get slapped down by it. It's just the yin and yang of
promotion and media is hard. works hard to explain, but it is
the way it works. So these children will eventually come
under incredible attack. Not all of them maybe but not
necessarily immediately, but it will happen and it's going to be
tough for them. It's very hard. It's not fun. But this March,
which was kind of intended to be a you know, we do something
there's no real message there's no like we you know, Ban bump
stocks, a raise the age limit to 21. Okay, fine. Yeah. Hey, ho
NRA time to go are all this stuff. But it's being paid for
by the Giffords foundation. That's Gabby Giffords. You know,
the Congresswoman who was shot. Planned Parenthood is financing
in March on us financing it. The National Endowment for the Arts
is involved new financing, move on March. It's called march on.
Okay, March is the Women's March March on and they're flying the
kids in
what's planned parenthood get to do with this? Who cares?
It's virtue signaling on their part. They got money, hey, she
knows like we got money. And yeah, there's a recording was
made at a Marriott in Broward County, where it teacher is
organizing the kids preparing them for their trip tomorrow.
And upon listening to this, and it's a couple minutes and and I
do expect us to stop from time to time to discuss. And it's
actually the audio is pretty decent for a change. So it
shouldn't be too excoriating to listen to. But when you hear
what this teacher is saying. And remember, these are, these are
she's not the leader of them. She is there a teacher, a
teacher in a teaching role is now organizing these children
for 100% political means, and they're totally buying into it.
And I find this such an egregious abuse of children that
I don't think you can do this any other show, we can play this
clip pretty much in its entirety, edited down a lot of
stuff. And just listen to what is happening to these children.
Everyone who's going it would be amazing. If you could
familiarize yourself with the Giffords organization. Giffords
has not only arranged an unbelievable itinerary for us,
but they've got medical support, their security, there's
counseling, there's media relations, pretty much
everything that they could think of. They have arranged for us.
Okay, so the Giffords organization is organizing
everything for them. Isn't that nice?
Tech support extraordinaire has set up a Facebook page and
Instagram, the username is we are the change underscore DC
because we are the change was taken. If you don't have an
itinerary, it's because when I got up to like, almost 200, my
principal was like, I'm assuming that's not for school. And I was
like,
Can you? Yeah, so she was printing off the itinerary for
the Giffords organization at school. The principal said,
Well, that seems like that may be personal.
Oh, okay. We'll do some we'll definitely get to your coffee.
Sure. If you've had a chance to go over it, you'll see that it
is really, really, really outstanding. We're also going to
have some things that are not on the agenda that are kind of top
secret
top secret, don't leave this out. Kids. Don't tell anyone
what's on our agenda.
Call the press here. Just pretend you're not hearing this.
But we will be introduced on Capitol Hill by Nancy Pelosi. So
that's kind of cool.
Yeah, cool.
Threatening to be with us, but I'm not sure if he really needs
that or not. And it's quite quite possible. We're going to
have a private meeting with Joe Biden.
The meeting with Uncle Joe, you see what's happened to these
kids. Run that guy for President.
I got to speak to Joe Biden on the phone to Giffords. And he's
really dedicated in his life, I have to tell you guys to your
cause, oh, post you're making we're gonna have our own
Heartland lounge they're calling in for you guys to go and
decompress and have press freesumes media requests as you
guys know, you've been doing great have to go through Anna
Dirac through Giffords. The greatest thing that has happened
to me throughout this whole process is that I was given a
press attache, how cool is that? How cool is that a press
attache, do you need and I said, Well, I don't know what I need.
And they said, Would you like a press attache? And I said, I
think I will. Because I feel like I'm the kind of person that
should have one and I go around telling people like, right? Give
me sending a person with you. There are no kids going to press
events by themselves. And this is really important.
Okay, so kids may not go to press events by themselves. This
is really important. You can own all media requests go to the
different organization. Kids, you cannot talk to the press
yourself.
To have your talking points. Ready.
You gotta have your talking points. Ready? Oh my god, kids,
what kind of kids? You get talking points for children?
Yes, sir.
I'm sorry. Yes. I mean, yes, yes, yes, yes, you're not in the
military. You're talking but you gotta have your talking points
ready, kids.
Giffords will be standing a person with you. There's no kids
going into presidents by themselves. And this is really
important. You need to have your talking points ready, we are
going to be met at the check in counter at the Fort Lauderdale
Airport, by a person from givers, they're going to know
you are because you're going to be wearing your full Gifford
shirt. Please wear your shirt.
Please wear your Gifford shirt. I mean, this is incredible.
That is my one play for playing captain's captains, there's
going to be a teacher at one end. And there's gonna be a
teacher at the other end.
So you can't get out.
That's right, we got your corral
teacher is going to make sure at the counter, that you're checked
off the list that you get to security and there'll be another
teacher waiting at the other end of security by Southwest has
donated all of these seats to us. When we get off the plane,
the givers people will be there. They will literally usher us
off, go to baggage, the buses that are taking us to DC are
right there. It's not going to rain on Saturday, so yay. Yay,
yay. I would say something about the politician is that the Jews
were in charge of weather. So you're the other thing is, and
again, this is super off the record. Here's what happened. It
was supposed to be a march. And then shockingly, they wouldn't
give permits for the March. So the march became a rally. Now
I've heard rumors from kids that since the rally is right on
Pennsylvania Avenue and the White House is like a 20 minute
walk off the street that might happen. So it's conceivable that
we could leave at the end of the rally and walk to the White
House where we rally some more and pull up our signs and say
our piece and create a little hell and then good to be able to
can have
hot chocolate and chocolate
so they didn't get a permit so they changed it from a march to
a rally and they were not allowed to march in front of the
White House. And so now this super super off the record
everybody after our quote unquote rally we're gonna might
just walk up to the White House, right, potentially putting the
kids in harm's way if you know if it's without a permit. This
could be an issue with that they're going to arrest
children. I hope so. I don't know about you, but I found this
this entire idea even extremely disturbing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you find it more disturbing than I did. I mean,
I'm not thinking I'm not saying it's good. And I think you're
right. It is a child abuse but it's just the typical rally just
typical left wing. You've seen these things before. These are
the these are the these are teachers doing this.
It's today's teachers. That's a classic example.
Is this all they do? They don't teach. Wow.
Maybe I don't. I don't know. I just it really bothered me. I
could not believe what I was hearing that this that their
parents are allowing this to happen if they even know if they
don't know.
How's it going to be gone for a day? At least you won't be
around the house bugging me.
All right, just so we don't have a total shitty ending. I have an
excerpt about the Peter Schweitzer book. This is the guy
who wrote Clinton CLI cash. Okay, and this is a little more
detail about the shenanigans with the Biden and carry kids
and China.
Oh, cool. Well,
it's really interesting, Martha, because there's this critical
period from 2013 to 2016. During the Obama administration, where
the US is engaging with China, on the South China Sea on
military challenges on trade on intellectual property, Joe Biden
in December of 2013, flies over to Beijing in Air Force to with
him on the plane is his son, Hunter Biden. Joe Biden gets
widely criticized for going soft on Beijing Well, 10 days after
they return his son Hunter Biden scores a private equity deal for
a billion dollars, that's a billion with a B, it's important
to note Hunter Biden has no background in private equity. He
has not done business in China before. And he along with a guy
named Devon Archer, who's a close carry family aid, start
doing these deals in China, there are two other major deals
that involve the carry and the Biden elements with China, three
of them worth billions of dollars. And the argument that
they are going to try to make is that this had no influence over
policy, which to me is just ludicrous. Anytime you engage in
commercial ventures with somebody, if we're worried about
a $10,000 PAC contribution influencing a politician, I
think we ought to be very concerned about billion dollar
private equity deals going to the kids of politicians.
And then there were deals with defense companies that in China,
who were at the same time being accused of stealing technology
from us. Yeah,
that's exactly right. I mean, so they get this money from the
Chinese this billion dollars plus, and this is Chinese
government money they've done this deal with, they take that
government money and they invest in other Chinese companies or US
companies. One of those is a company called Cgn, China
general nucular their anchor investors. So this is Hunter
Biden, the son of the Vice President, and Devon Archer, a
close aide to John Kerry Cgn, this company less than a year
after they invest in them. Senior executives are arrested
for doing what for stealing new killer secrets in the United
States. And one of the engineers in that company pleads guilty,
what they're trying to get access to, are these small
nucular reactors that are very similar to those that are on US
nuclear submarines. So this is not just about politicians
getting quick money. This has serious national security
implications. And it is the new growth area of corruption. The
old days of politicians stuffing, you know, $90,000 in
their freezer, has been replaced by billion dollar private equity
deals for your family members a lot harder to detect and
defined,
and they learn so well from Hillary.
And at first,
I thought, How is how is this clip? The uplifting? Let's go
out of the show is something more uplifting? Oh, I didn't say
uplifting was more depressing than the other clip
didn't say uplifting? I said better? Well, the better is in
the payoff. Because first I thought, Wow, man, this is
clearly the getting ready in case Joe wants to run. Let's
discredit him upfront, and I'm sure it's true. I'm sure it's
true. But then this gem comes out.
So what about Mitch McConnell? Well, Mitch
McConnell very similar China, China's basically adopted this
posture of saying that they're going to seek out commercial
ties with family members, Elaine Chao, his family is in the
shipping business. The government of China that China
State Shipbuilding Corporation has set them up, they build
their ships, they finance the construction of their ships.
They provide contracts for state owned enterprises to ship them
around. And the father, the patriarch of the family gave a
gift to Mitch McConnell of between five and $25 million.
Hello. Yeah, government at work.
We should have ended with a gay bunny book that would have been
better.
Yeah, maybe? Well, at least you get something to think about
with these clips,
ya know, five to $25 million. Nice. Well, government is our
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Region. Six on the governmental maps and the five by nine
Bluedio in the common law condo in the morning, everybody, I'm
Adam curry and from
Northern Silicon Valley where it stopped raining and the tea I'm
done with the tea, the Darjeeling and I'm ready to go
home and fetch. I'm gonna take a cab
you supposed to end with I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh,
I'm John. I'm John C. Dvorak. Now I'm taking a cap day ever
showed up anyway.
Until next time, everybody. Adios mofos that day
today machinery actually targeted critical infrastructure
packers got in about a dozen but it that they were they were
there Thresh has gotten better at dealing screenshots pay we
know you're there that they were they were their government is
stealing screenshots last year but it's gotten it publicly
sabotage them today has been machinery the buttons capability
that attack got into screenshot behind the arbitrator that got
into buttons gotten in buttons he got into Bennett got in about
a dozen
oh yes this way got a I don't think that suppose man to get a
load of dog it was see for
me these dogs get scanned do they go through the body scanner
I have no idea probably to get a load of dog a receipt for that's
what I'm using and
out of this yeah
just one of these dogs explode and it's all over people
with a little fuse taken out of his drive
and just one of these dogs explode and it's all over people
you get a load of dog over see for sure have a seat for
dogs gets down to they go through the body scanner
I have no idea probably we can load a dog have a seat for us
thinking that it is just one of these dogs being flown and it's
all over the US thing that I was trying to talk about and only
just one of these dogs explode and it's all over again a lot of
dog have a seat for the dog have a seat for us to get out of his
life yeah that happened. place to go to after winning daughter,
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