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pepper pepper pepper.

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Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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Thursday September 6 2018 This
is your award winning get more

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nation media assassination
episode 1066. This

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is no agenda,

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handling the hunger stones and
broadcasting live from the

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Capitol the drone star staying
here in downtown Austin. In the

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video in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where the Zephyr actually

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haunted store and today. I'm
Jesse Devorah. Buzzkill.

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Well, you gotta think by now
that the guys on the Zephyr know

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about you, and they and they,
and they've triangulated you by

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now surely oh, by

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the way. When we did a
Sacramento meetup there was a

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good one of the conductors
decided in front of the station

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to say hi.

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Yeah, because he and we have
exclusive audio of that event.

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Oh, my God.

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I mean, is there a former
podcast? This should be? Hell

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yeah. And you should be

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most of this most, most of the
former stuff is on our FD RFD

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TV, which is a cable station and
they play these, these

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unbelievably long videos of one
drain, just going through, you

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know, go in here, and they're
just keep following it. It's

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just unbelievably dull.

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I think it would be interesting.
I would certainly listen to it,

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especially if you know, they had
guests on who brought their own

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favorite train clips. And have
it really high quality, you

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know, not just a 96 kilohertz
sample, you know, do like 192 or

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do three 300 Plus, and really
have the binaural sound of the

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train going by that I would
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You have a dig. You can't listen
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very short podcast. Oh, yeah.
Maybe a 10 minute podcast, just

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listen to a bunch of horns.

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Anyway, it was busy man. And
finally, some stuff to watch on

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C span, sadly at the same time.
Oh, my God. And I looked at the

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clip list today and like, Oh,
this is fantastic. We have

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almost no overlap. You did the
Supreme Court, mainly Cavanaugh.

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And I mainly did the one clip
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the what was the exact title of
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and social media, with Sandberg
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Oh, yeah, I wanted to watch
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interested. Watch these guys
screaming at a job.

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I watched that whole opening
like, Ah, really, it's just

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another scripted shit show.
Like, I don't need to see that.

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Although it's entertaining. I
was. But I already saw that. I

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saw that the day before the
first day like Oh, okay. And

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doing that. And then the second
day they did it again. What do

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you want to get into it? Now?
Firstly, you just want to hear

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how we're all going to die just
to set the mood for the show.

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Well just start with I think we
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this is my Supreme Court hearing
out of control moment is the way

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the whole first day went?

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Way out of control moment. Got
it? Yes. Here we go.

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Famine deserve justice. Mr.
Chairman, I'd like to recognize

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before we proceed, Mr. Chairman,
I'd like to be recognized to ask

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a question before we proceed.
The Committee received just last

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night, less than 15 hours ago.
There's more Derman right now is

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in pages of darkness is

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Kamla. Harris from California,
or as they do on C span radio

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myths that we have not
California review, or read or

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analyze.

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You are you're out of order.
I'll proceed.

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We cannot possibly move forward.
Mr. Chairman, a

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very warm welcome

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to have a meeting his wife, a
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their two daughters. Mr.
Chairman, are you am I calling

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her Harris? Mr. Chairman, we
already logged files and

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documents that we haven't
everyone else joined me last

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night and we believe this
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know this exciting day for all
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I don't understand why he
brought his two daughters. The

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whole day was an embarrassment
for them. They were sitting

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there and they're pretty frocks
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and your mom looks like she's
about to kill someone.

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Yeah, I mean, it was it was it's
not the most important part of

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the story but I just felt bad
like, dude, what you knew this

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was gonna happen yeah, you're an
idiot. Don't bring your kids to

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this. Just gonna suck. And then
the all the coordinated Oh, we

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haven't seen the documents 48
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Well, the thing that was funny
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guys called out the group one of
the new, I can don't have his

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name I haven't really rice
ourselves. The freshmen from the

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freshman class is one of the new
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He's not the he's not John
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that's a new guy, but a younger
guy. And he he says, I'm looking

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at a tweet right here from Chuck
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Democrats to stall, do anything
they can to postpone these

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hearings? Is that what you guys
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bring in tweets. Apparently,
he's watching his phone the

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whole time during the all the
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one of them pointed out in which
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out more was the Democrats
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we're voting no no matter what.
Well, if you're voting no, no

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matter what if what you care
about the documents coming in

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late or whatever year you're
voting know exactly. I mean, or

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don't come in

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like, well, I presume that they
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one or two Republicans to vote
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what I what I what I heard, what
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Talking Heads talking about on
cable news was an I actually was

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so long ago, at the beginning of
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were looking clip it. Well, how
come you guys didn't walk away?

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You know, and it was kind of
this push from the media, like

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you guys should walk out, walk
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walk out, walk out of that just
to talk him? And you'd have to

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like, well, we don't really want
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really lose all the power. So
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discussion. And I think they
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convince one or two guys shame
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people in the audience standing
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there

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was somebody standing up and
leaving every day was the date

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one would get out. They get
kicked out. Then another one

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another one. They're all
screaming in that high pitched

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voice. Yeah. I have a bunch of
short little guys, if you want

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to hear Oh, yeah.

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With your T's has become the
segment. So let's let's move

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right through it. I'm liking
what I'm hearing. All right. So

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let's go with a couple of little

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do have we even talked about
this is about that. This is the

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confirmation hearing.

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idea to mention. Yes, you
mentioned it.

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So this is Judge Cavanaugh who
Trump not appointed as

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nominated. Well, I think he
appoints him and then he has to

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be confirmed. I don't think his
nomination. Okay.

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And now it has to go through the
Senate and Senate has to just a

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straight straight majority, I
think for this. Yeah. Yeah. Just

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so 51 votes. Yes. Get out of
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Sorry. Okay. Yes. complicated
process. Yeah, this is still the

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committee.

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Yeah, there's the committee and
then Where's it go? Then it goes

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to the vote for the day. Then
everything everyone

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gets to vote on. Okay. I got it.
So what's the what's the make of

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the committee? You know, what's
they have a vote or they're just

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someone says, Hey, nice chat,
and yay or nay? How does that

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work?

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Yeah, they vote and they say,
okay, we can pull one.

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Well, who's how many
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on the

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I don't know the exact number.
But there's one more Republican.

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It's all show,

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right? Let's just agree. It's a
big show. It's grandstanding.

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It's a show. Okay. And cameltoe.
Harris was back and forth

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between this one and between the
social media the image just,

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they were busy.

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Well, here's here's a classic
example of Kamala Harris. This

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is a short clip.

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I will be playing, of course,
they're close attention to your

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testimony. And I think, you
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be paying very close attention
to your testimony. Yeah, no,

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they

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won't be an idiot. What is she
saying? You and I are paying

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some attention. But nobody's
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And then Lindsey Graham, of
course, had a couple of good

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points. He kind of pointed out
what you just said a second ago,

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play the Lindsey Graham
hypocrisy clip

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to my colleagues on the other
side. Look forward to working

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with you. But we have a
different view here. I think you

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got to be blind as to what's
going on here. Yeah. Have you

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heard of Justice Breyer, do you
know him? You can't say

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anything, I guess. Where did he
come from? He was Ted Kennedy,

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Senate Judiciary person. Where
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gonna go find a judge? The whole
argument is you can be a

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conservative Republican
president, but you got to

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nominate a liberal to be fair to
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What do you think Ruth Bader
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She's the General Counsel of the
ACLU wonderful person. What

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groups do y'all use to pick
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the hypocrisy hearing and that's
hard to do in the Senate.

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Lindsey is real it's like it's
like one testicle drop down the

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Well, there was this incident
that was I don't there's no clip

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of it.

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I saw this I saw the video at
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funeral. Yeah, it's explained.
It's really good.

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Well, Lindsey Graham was there
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Aberdeen comes running out
Beelining Beeline through the

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crowd. Yeah, Beeline through the
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and the yanking kick and a
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meanwhile, John Kelly, yeah,
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there. And I think it was Mattis
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took he looked around and said,
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by the way, Lindsey Graham was
doing kind of that. I'm at the

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funeral and no one wants to talk
to me. We had kind of that look

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on his

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last or the after Aberdeen left.
That's what happened. And then

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Kelly turns around, I didn't
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Yeah, little menacing actually,
he brought but he's got to be

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able to stand up to Trump
because he's at least the same

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height, right? And he's standing
there and then all of a sudden,

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he's just start staring at
Lindsey with a real like a stare

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like, what? What is it you're up
to? staring at him? And Graham

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is good at it and not noticing
that he looks at him. Suddenly,

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he's catches his eye. And he's
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and then Kelly gives him some
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It looks a little it was a yes.
The first like, yeah, it looks

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like he's giving us this. He's
basically touching his his, the

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bottom underneath his eye with
his index finger, but it's the

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other side of his nose than the
cameras position. And it could

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also have been just I got some
credit in my eye on I was

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Lindsey Graham. But it could
have been a signal like I got my

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eye on you.

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Yeah, that's what I thought. And
so then after that Lindsay

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becomes this great apologist for
Trump at these hearings.

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So I said only one testicle
dropped on him not both just one

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but he was

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he was doing the best job of all
the people there you find these

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but there's something
something's up with that guy

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let's see what kind of hashtag
meet me too moment we can have

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about Lindsey Graham. Wouldn't
that be great?

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A harassing, pretty obvious. So
this is his little very short

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comment about election. This is
a second clip from him. You had

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a chance and you lost. If you
want to pick judges. From your

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way of thinking then you better
win election.

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Date. That's what I'm telling
you. Lindsey has got a little

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ballsy all of us. I like I like
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wants this. You know his dad
died.

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He lives with his mom, dad but
McCain.

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Just a small interjection. We
make jokes like this. And the

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other night I actually regret
it. We've made a lot of jokes

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about Ruth Bader Ginsburg house
falls asleep. You know, she's,

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she's funny. She's just look at
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funny. And I saw the documentary
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for this woman. She's still
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very humorous. But I felt like
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it without really knowing her
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pretty outrageously cool. Okay,
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about knotless I'm just saying

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it's my conscience, by the end
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anything, I just need to get it
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laughing about Lindsey Graham
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So Feinstein comes out. And she
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wanted to say one thing and she
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something else. And if you
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what she's trying to say. I
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wants she says the country is
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diversity, not the country's
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I think she was saying we don't
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the in the Supreme Court. You
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think that's what you wanted to
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behind the noise is really a
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so important to keep in this
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multi religious, multi economic,
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people and serves this great
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That's my worry. So I look
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answering the questions. Thank
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Before we go. What is multi
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multi ethnic, multi religious,
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have rich people and very poor
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economic. So we need to port we
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somebody were Nixon says
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mediocre? No, who said that?
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think people can look into this
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for picking somebody who was
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mediocre. I'm paraphrasing a lot
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kind of what Feinstein just
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people in the country, so they
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mediocre justice. Oh.

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You want to hear the flub OF THE
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John Kasich. And he was, and he
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Cuomo, kid show on CNN, look, I

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learned early on in my job when
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that it's sometimes you have to
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you do it all the time, it's
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your bigger purposes. And it's
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not about AI when you lose. The
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the Congress, though, it's it's
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was put to death. And look at
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this going on. Listen to you.
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Give yourself Clip of the Day.
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hours since John McCain was put
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That's fantast. I know. I still
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I heard it, too. Good, Lord.
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This is a good 30 seconds worth
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even it's like

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24 hours since John McCain was
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Cold, cold, cold, cold. Yeah.
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a person not hear that that
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I want to get back to find out
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if the people were listening to
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actually listening to the other
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know, he wasn't put to death.
Let's let's make that clear.

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That's what we were saying.
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say that. But they would correct
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Yes. All right. Can I can I go
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point? I probably interrupt your
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No, no, the Feinstein thing. I
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such. He wants diversity. So we
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have an ethnic another ethnic
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at the max, it seems I mean,
they have how many people are

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Jewish on the Supreme Court?
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they're over represented.

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Oh, yeah, we need Pastafarians
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she bitched about that?

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She's not opposed to fire him?
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guess that that's fine, then I
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me get this out of the way. And
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know, this is about Feinstein,
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I inserted it here as what I
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because I was going back to the
socialists thing, and I see

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Feinstein trying to, you know,
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conversation about, you know, I
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the assault weapons ban, which
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after 10 years, and they had a
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a damn bit of good. So we don't
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know, historical context. But,
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an opinion he wrote in the guy
wrote a lot of opinions about

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the reason that you could have
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because they were not unusual.
They are there. There's millions

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of them. And then she tries to
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does that mean that these
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the closet is not the same
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litigate the Second Amendment,
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wasting everybody's time. And
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mean, even I see this coming
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you really going to try this? So
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listen to NPR is report they
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gums, abortion, the scope of
presidential power, all issues

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being put to Supreme Court
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This is the second day of his
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first chance for senators on the
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him in public. In a moment we'll
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first NPR Legal Affairs
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joins us to walk through some of
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Hi, Nina. Hi, let's begin with
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as being a very pro gun. She was
he pressed on that today?

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Well as a judge Kevin has staked
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from most lower court judges on
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fellow conservatives. Most
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court upheld the District of
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assault weapons and ammunition
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bullets. Today questioned by
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precedent. Only unusual weapons
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automatic assault rifles are not
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Let's take a listen to the
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You're saying the numbers
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widely possessed in the United
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Beyond guns, he was also asked
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President Trump promised to name
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overturn Roe vs. Wade, what did
Kevin have to say about it?

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Now, when I heard that, I
thought, wait a minute. Did he

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say that the President, we know
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appoint someone who would
overturn Roe versus Wade?

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Yeah, so he said, I don't know
if the President said that.

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Well, and if he did, by the way,
let's stop right here. Because

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we've listened to these media
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President ever said that, they
would play the

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clip. So I went and got the only
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what the claim is here. And
you're right, they would have

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had the clip. They don't because
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putting all let's just start
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listening to this, because we've
noticed this over the last year.

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If there is a moment where Trump
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making an assertion about,
they're either gonna lie about

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it and play a different clip, or
they're gonna play Trump saying

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it. They did not play Trump
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say it or we'll see what he did
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So again, here's NPR N PR, your
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Senator

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beyond guns. He was also asked
about abortion. And we know

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President Trump promised to name
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overturn Roe vs. Wade, what a
Kevin, I'll have to save that.

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listen to what the President
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final debate against Hillary
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this doesn't matter if

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Mr. Trump, you're pro life, but
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do you want the court including
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to overturn Roe v. Wade, which
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woman's right to abortion?

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be appointing pro life judges. I
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back to the individual states.

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But I'm asking you specifically
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It'll go back to the States.

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But what I'm asking you, sir, is
do you want to see the court

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overturn? You just said you want
to see the court? Protect the

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Second Amendment? Do you want to
see the court overturn royally.

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we put another two or perhaps
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what's going to be that's will
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automatically, in my opinion,
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justices on the court. I will
say this, it will go back to the

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States. And the states will then
make a determination.

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There you go. She didn't say it.
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he said something. He said
something really weaselly, but

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he's not say it. He did not say
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No matter how he said it. He
finally said it. Yeah, this is

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the kind of news reporting we
have. We didn't say but he kind

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of said it.

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And he actually added something
important, which was omitted

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from the NPR report, which is,
no matter what happens, it goes

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back to the states where

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probably people in California
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anything, they should be happy.

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They can do whatever they want.
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that?

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doesn't burn trumpet now?

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Yeah, later on the show, I got
some flashbacks. And you and I

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we have you and I both will both
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now crazy lefty people were
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Interestingly, we'll get to that
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I have two more things. I have
Mike Lee, he had two clips from

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him. One is extremely long, and
you want to play the whole

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thing. But you just get an idea
of what he's talking about by

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playing but the probably the
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This is sort of how the practice
of holding these hearings began.

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So the senators could ask
nominees, how they might vote,

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how they might rule in
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didn't always happen. In fact,
it wasn't until 1916 that this

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even started. You see, there
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confirmed to the Supreme Court
so far. The first 66 were

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confirmed without even holding a
hearing. And the idea of it

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hearing is relatively new. It's
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They see I love this, John,
thank you. Having a little

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history lesson on the show is
something we need to work on.

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It's it's it's entertaining,
even if this happened hundreds

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of years ago.

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Because it gives us context that
we're not getting from the news

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media. Yes.

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Now we have to do it punchy,
that's pathetic, podcasters, 125

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and 130 years under our
constitutional republic, without

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ever having a hearing but
regardless, we started having

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hearing Just over a century ago,
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confirmation hearing occurred in
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Brandeis, after Louis Brandeis
was nominated to the court, some

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called for a hearing. Now, if
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honest about history, I think a
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some anti sentiment fervor and
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was Jewish. But senators also
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Brandeis would use his seat on
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for some of the things that he
had advocated for as a private

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citizen. As a public interest
attorney. They wanted to know

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how he might vote in particular
cases. They didn't ask Justice

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Brandeis to testify
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fact, asked some outside
witnesses what they thought

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about his nomination. The next
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occurred in 1939, when Felix
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nominee to himself testified
before the committee. At the

449
00:26:10,830 --> 00:26:15,330
time, Frankfurter was
controversial in part because he

450
00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:19,770
was born overseas. But Senator
is also worried that Frankfurter

451
00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:24,630
was so radical based on his
defense of anarchists in court.

452
00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:29,910
So again, Senators wanted
assurances about how Frankfurter

453
00:26:29,910 --> 00:26:34,350
might rule in particular cases
in particular, or what results

454
00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:38,820
he might reach in a particular
type of case. Frankfurter,

455
00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:42,960
however, significantly declined
to engage with the senators on

456
00:26:42,990 --> 00:26:47,490
those topics, and insisted that
his public record spoke for

457
00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:51,630
itself, just as Stewart's
nomination in 1959 was another

458
00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:55,890
turning point. Senators seeking
to resist Brown versus Board of

459
00:26:55,890 --> 00:27:00,300
Education and one of the grill
Stewart on his views on

460
00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:04,080
integration. Others still wanted
to grill Stewart about his views

461
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,410
on national security. So
senators turned up the heat a

462
00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:12,360
little bit more in that hearing,
like Frankfort or before him.

463
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:16,350
Justice Stewart did not provide
substantive answers to their

464
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:17,010
questions.

465
00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:20,160
And I played the whole thing, as
you can tell,

466
00:27:20,189 --> 00:27:23,879
it goes, it goes on and on. And
he talks about how you know now

467
00:27:23,879 --> 00:27:27,959
the standard of excellence is
Ruth Gator bin Ruth Gator Gator.

468
00:27:28,289 --> 00:27:33,059
Ruth Bader Ginsburg RGG. Has she
had a rule? She says, I'm not

469
00:27:33,059 --> 00:27:37,799
going to, you know, tip my hat
and judge the budget during her

470
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,649
hearings. And I don't think they
should be answering these sorts

471
00:27:40,649 --> 00:27:43,829
of questions. That's the
standard that the Republicans

472
00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:46,829
keep throwing in the Democrats
face. What during these hearings

473
00:27:46,829 --> 00:27:47,159
was

474
00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:50,910
did Frankfurter in that clip? Is
he also the guy who invented the

475
00:27:50,910 --> 00:27:51,120
hot

476
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,960
dog? No, no, surprisingly
enough. He's not the same guy.

477
00:27:54,990 --> 00:27:58,590
Okay, just check it. So I
thought it might be. So let's

478
00:27:58,590 --> 00:28:02,940
play the little shortcut. We're
Mike Lee kind of does give us a

479
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:06,480
little little ending here that
that was interesting.

480
00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:10,710
28 years later, 28 years after
Justice Stewart came through

481
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:13,620
this committee. The Senate
considered Robert forks

482
00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:16,260
nomination to the Supreme Court.
This was another significant

483
00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:20,670
turning point. And in my view,
remains something of a rock

484
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:25,110
bottom moment for the Senate and
for the Senate Judiciary

485
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:29,880
Committee. Without getting into
any of the core gory details

486
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,930
here, I think it suffices to say
that Senator Ted Kennedy, and

487
00:28:33,930 --> 00:28:37,860
Judge Bork did not agree on
certain matters of

488
00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:43,830
constitutional law. And
Kennedy's response was to

489
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:49,020
Savage, unfairly, in my opinion,
the results that Judge Bork

490
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,270
would reach if confirmed to the
Supreme Court. The history shows

491
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:57,630
that over the better part of a
century, the Judiciary Committee

492
00:28:57,630 --> 00:29:01,560
has gradually created something
of a new norm, a norm in which

493
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,990
members demand that nominees
speak about specific cases in

494
00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:10,800
return for favorable treatment
from the committee, as the

495
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,600
jurists are going through this
process,

496
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:16,710
oh man, he's talking about he's
wasting our time talking about

497
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:19,980
people who are wasting our time
in historical context of wasting

498
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:20,490
time.

499
00:29:20,850 --> 00:29:23,970
Yes, he is. That's a good
observation. I only have one

500
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:27,480
last clip. And this is I
actually have to another one's

501
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,390
not really about this hearings.
But this this one here comes

502
00:29:30,390 --> 00:29:33,300
from the the government. There's
a guy a couple of days you have

503
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:39,150
a number of historians that like
to produce podcasts. Yeah,

504
00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:43,560
really? Podcasts are just kind
of like little books on tape.

505
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,250
Are they hosted on pod bean? No,
they're not on pod bean,

506
00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:51,870
surprisingly enough. I would say
that I wouldn't be a podcaster

507
00:29:51,870 --> 00:29:54,570
if I had this guy's voice
because this guy and I don't

508
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:57,900
have his name in front of it. He
gives a little Supreme Court

509
00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:00,960
early history that was never
mentioned by Anybody is actually

510
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,730
kind of interesting presidents

511
00:30:02,730 --> 00:30:06,720
nominate Supreme Court justice.
Oh my god, I'm already loving

512
00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:10,800
the voice. And the Senate has to
confirm. There has been

513
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,740
occasional trouble since the
very beginning. The first

514
00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:17,190
justice to be denied a seat on
the court was a man named John

515
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:21,600
Rutledge. It was 1795, just
seven years into the new

516
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,080
constitutional experiment.
Rutledge had written an op ed

517
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,980
piece critical of the Jay
Treaty, a 1794 treaty with

518
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:31,890
Britain that tried to resolve
certain lingering issues from

519
00:30:31,890 --> 00:30:35,190
the War of Independence. That
was enough for a Federalist

520
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:40,290
Senate to scotch, his candidacy.
Jefferson came into office in

521
00:30:40,290 --> 00:30:43,950
1801. In what he called the
Second American Revolution,

522
00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:47,910
I gotta stop for a second. This
guy needs a noise gate real bad.

523
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:57,840
Because you hear that I don't
know man.

524
00:30:58,770 --> 00:31:01,800
But poised to prevent that
revolution was Chief Justice

525
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,400
John Marshall Jefferson's
distant cousin. He was put into

526
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,940
his life tenured position in the
last months of John Adams failed

527
00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:12,720
one term administration. Adams
who distrusted Jefferson's

528
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,170
democratic radicalism,
essentially engaged in last

529
00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:19,620
minute court packing, Marshal
and dozens of other midnight

530
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:22,860
appointments. To make sure that
Jefferson did not take things

531
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:27,810
too far to the left. Marshall
went on to serve for 34 years,

532
00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:31,710
he was perhaps the greatest of
all Supreme Court justices. He

533
00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:35,730
was indeed a thorn in Jefferson
side. Marshall wanted America to

534
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:39,690
be a great centralized nation
state, not a confederation of

535
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:43,350
sovereign states. He wanted a
nation that prides the sanctity

536
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:47,610
of contract above any temporary
notion of social justice. He

537
00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:51,660
despised Jefferson's vision of a
lightly governed inward looking

538
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,930
agriculturally based loose
association of proud

539
00:31:54,930 --> 00:31:59,700
Commonwealth like Virginia, and
Pennsylvania. We now live in

540
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:03,600
Marshall's America, not
Jefferson's. And that's the

541
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,730
story of Paul Harvey.

542
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:10,560
That was probably the right
there was the fundamental basis

543
00:32:10,590 --> 00:32:13,200
for the Civil War. Yeah,
Marshall.

544
00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:17,580
Yeah. Well, and that was social
justice warriors. It sounds like

545
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:20,850
Jefferson was a social Jefferson
warrior.

546
00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:24,330
He was and that's what she
called and it was a lefty. I

547
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:30,390
mean, they course they demean
him because he owns slaves. But

548
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:31,560
he was named closer.

549
00:32:31,709 --> 00:32:38,369
He was the OG as JWG. Slave
Jefferson warrior.

550
00:32:38,699 --> 00:32:41,609
Ah, okay, finally.

551
00:32:42,449 --> 00:32:52,829
We cannot I'm sorry. It's my
mistake. Yeah. What was it? We

552
00:32:52,829 --> 00:32:56,369
need? We cannot. Where is this
thing? Yes. We cannot end a

553
00:32:56,369 --> 00:32:58,739
segment like that without this
jingle. I'm sorry. I will have

554
00:32:58,739 --> 00:33:04,169
it ready next time. The more you
know, in the morning to get that

555
00:33:04,169 --> 00:33:10,889
in there. Yeah. Not tight. No.
The opposite of tight.

556
00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:14,430
Now, this is the last thing that
this was an ad. I don't Did you

557
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:18,480
see this ad? This was Susan, the
ad against Susan Collins. The

558
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,170
social justice warriors put up
an ad right now. Who is Susan

559
00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:28,620
Collins? Is it College is the
senator from Maine ah. Who is

560
00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:35,880
the Republican and swing vote.
And she has to vote. As to every

561
00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:39,330
do all the Republicans they have
to vote yes on this guy. And

562
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:40,830
they think that she's a weak

563
00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:45,120
sister. A weak sister, okay.

564
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:50,400
And so the all these Democrats
put together this ad claiming to

565
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,200
be like her supporters. But you
can just see this as a fake in

566
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,260
terms of that. And they put this
ad out, which is now floating

567
00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:01,380
around trying to get her to vote
against Cavanaugh and this is

568
00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:04,590
the ad Susan Collins. Senator,

569
00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:08,280
I have called you I have emailed
I've written letters day after

570
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,930
day, week after week, it has
been pretty demoralizing to know

571
00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:16,740
that your elected representative
is ignoring you.

572
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,770
So we're trying something new
and hope that this will get your

573
00:34:19,770 --> 00:34:23,310
attention. Senator Collins, if
you vote for Brett Kavanaugh,

574
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:25,110
we're going to fund your future
opponent.

575
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,780
A vote for Kavanaugh is almost
certainly a vote to reverse Roe

576
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,260
versus Wade as a Mainer, who has
a pre existing condition. If you

577
00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:36,960
vote yes, on Kavanaugh, you're
voting to kill me

578
00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:40,260
if he was confirmed as the case
but you could instantly take

579
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:43,410
away rights for people like me
as a non binary person.

580
00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:47,190
I gotta hear that part again.
That was just so

581
00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:50,850
is it by the way, it's followed
up by the non binary person,

582
00:34:50,850 --> 00:34:51,120
right?

583
00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:56,040
But also the the cadence the
whole delivery of that line was

584
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,740
just fantastic. If you're going
to kill me,

585
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:02,340
Mainer who has preexisting
conditions. If you vote yes, on

586
00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:04,110
Kavanaugh, you're voting to kill
me.

587
00:35:04,350 --> 00:35:08,730
If he was confirmed, he could
instantly take away rights for

588
00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:12,450
people like me as a non binary
person, or people nearly any

589
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:15,030
marginalized identity. You vote

590
00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:20,130
to confirm having no. We're not
going to stop fighting until

591
00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:23,220
you're defeated, Mainers need
you to stand up and be a hero,

592
00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:26,610
be a hero, be a hero, be a hero
and vote no.

593
00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:29,130
And if you don't, we will
replace you.

594
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,960
Who paid for that? That's great.

595
00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:36,300
I don't know, I could not have
yet to figure it out.

596
00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:39,870
It's very, it's humorous. I like
it. That's very fun. This is I

597
00:35:39,870 --> 00:35:42,930
appreciate this kind of art. And
I encourage that at any time in

598
00:35:42,930 --> 00:35:43,470
our media

599
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:47,820
landscape vote for him. To kill
me. Yes.

600
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:52,830
Yeah, I think that is fantastic.
Absolutely. Good job.

601
00:35:53,550 --> 00:35:59,010
Well, let's transition to the
other side of Capitol Hill. And

602
00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:03,510
where we had the foreign
influence on social media

603
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,050
hearing, and this was in the
Intelligence Committee, and I

604
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:10,080
think we can do a nice
transition with the only clips

605
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,010
that overlapped during for this
program. Because John and I

606
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:15,990
never discussed what we're going
to do I have no idea what he's

607
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:18,810
going to talk about or clips
he's sending. I just get them

608
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:21,600
before we start five minutes
before I look at him, just to

609
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
make sure you know, there's not
too many doubles. I have one

610
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,210
clip of Alex Jones versus Marco
Rubio, you have to so I think

611
00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:33,510
that you should run with the
segment.

612
00:36:33,870 --> 00:36:40,020
Actually, Marco, you might want
to play your clip because it cuz

613
00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:46,050
I mic clips are kind of a trap
is to clip plus a kicker. And I

614
00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:47,520
want to see what your clip is.

615
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:51,330
I just have the straight up
clip. I just have straight up

616
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:53,970
clip. I think we should do
yours. This is an executive

617
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:55,230
decision. Okay, well,

618
00:36:55,230 --> 00:36:58,800
this is the clip that I'm going
to play. This is Alex Jones

619
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,310
versus Rubio. This is a clip
that was generally promoted on

620
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:09,030
the internet. And it was Rubio
giving a press briefing in the

621
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:11,490
hallway and Jones button in.

622
00:37:11,759 --> 00:37:16,109
But I just want to say up front
what I found so fascinating

623
00:37:16,109 --> 00:37:18,959
about this clip. And of course,
we'll hear it the most the clip

624
00:37:18,959 --> 00:37:23,819
is about this. So big spoiler,
Rubio, then I've seen this

625
00:37:23,819 --> 00:37:28,559
behavior. I'll give you an
example. In the Netherlands for

626
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:33,119
sure. In when I was 20, very
early on when being on TV was

627
00:37:33,149 --> 00:37:36,629
not as common as it is today.
And people would of course

628
00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:40,019
recognize me. And they would
always say just without me even

629
00:37:40,019 --> 00:37:44,909
asking Hi, I don't know who you
are. As I never watched it, and

630
00:37:44,909 --> 00:37:46,799
I never watched Music
Television. You kidding, man? I

631
00:37:46,799 --> 00:37:49,469
don't know if I don't know who
you are. When they when they

632
00:37:49,499 --> 00:37:53,819
it's very I knew for a fact that
they Oh yes. And it's a very odd

633
00:37:53,819 --> 00:37:57,929
reaction that some people had,
and of all people for this to

634
00:37:57,929 --> 00:38:01,349
happen and Marco Rubio to do
this and to double and triple

635
00:38:01,349 --> 00:38:05,459
down on it with Jones shouting
in his face. I give Alex Jones a

636
00:38:05,459 --> 00:38:09,449
10 plus for this by the way. I
wish I had those balls to

637
00:38:09,449 --> 00:38:13,859
promote our show. Because, you
know, he's just sticking his

638
00:38:13,859 --> 00:38:17,099
face and God infowars.com I
mean, I wish I had balls like

639
00:38:17,099 --> 00:38:20,489
legs is fantastic. I very this
is Greg

640
00:38:20,490 --> 00:38:22,830
good. I have a First Amendment
or should these companies be

641
00:38:22,830 --> 00:38:25,830
able to to violate the whole
Safe Harbor act and all that and

642
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:27,330
then banned conservatives in
mash?

643
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:30,330
I don't know anything about your
site? No.

644
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:32,550
But about the First Amendment?
Yeah, I

645
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:34,980
support the First Amendment just
ask questions. I know a

646
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:40,230
couple of things we have to
start over. Because I think it

647
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:43,140
needs to be prefaced. That group
is actually doing an interview

648
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:47,130
some woman from local station
and Joe's just standing on the

649
00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:50,430
side there just jumps in. Yeah.
And he and I believe he says

650
00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:52,140
Safe Harbor act.

651
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:56,100
Instead of Safe Harbor, Safe
Harbor,

652
00:38:56,790 --> 00:39:01,350
like Safe Harbor, and oh, you're
gonna put Rubio's funny he catch

653
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:03,450
that in terms of what are you
talking about putting trees up?

654
00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:06,840
I know what you don't need any
more trees? Oh,

655
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:08,820
I didn't even catch that. That's
pretty funny.

656
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,370
Could I have a First Amendment
or should these companies be

657
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:14,370
able to to violate the whole
Safe Harbor act and all that and

658
00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:15,840
then ban conservatives and mash?

659
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,950
That I don't know anything about
your site? No. But about the

660
00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:22,380
First Amendment? Yeah, support
the First Amendment. Just ask

661
00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:22,770
questions.

662
00:39:23,130 --> 00:39:26,190
I know I was only brought up
China. Are you aware that the

663
00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:30,900
platforming going on in China?
No. Here big tech companies are

664
00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:33,840
purging conservatives that are
shadow banning people in that

665
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,350
well, my

666
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:38,070
broader concern is that what we
are trying to do in terms of

667
00:39:38,070 --> 00:39:41,280
preventing foreign interference
in our elections, that

668
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,850
technology could be used by
authoritarian governments to

669
00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:48,090
argue we want you to do the same
thing against people that are in

670
00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:48,240
our

671
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,610
Jones makes an excellent
argument. He says, Dude, what

672
00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:52,800
are you talking about? That's
happening here right now under

673
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,700
your very nose

674
00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:56,370
country operating for example
for that misinformation would be

675
00:39:56,370 --> 00:40:00,540
something like the truth for
them missing for them. sowing

676
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,700
instability would be supporting
democracy and flips it the

677
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:03,660
Democrats are doing what

678
00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:04,650
you said China does

679
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,080
that you got from Sheryl
Sandberg and Jack Dorsey on that

680
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,620
question.

681
00:40:08,070 --> 00:40:11,130
I think Facebook now is I think
it's important for them not to

682
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,700
comply with any efforts to sort
of go after freedom but what

683
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:15,360
about the Democrats

684
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,840
purging conservative the the non
answering just as the

685
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,270
Republicans are acting like it
isn't happening? Thank God Trump

686
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:24,480
is weird. Oh, yeah, that's
really where there's no purge

687
00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:30,870
conservatives, Shadow banning
social media who's concerned

688
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:32,700
about bias in social media?
Well, I

689
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,550
think the bigger bias is against
freedom of expression. Everybody

690
00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:38,760
shouldn't be there's a there's a
look, I support going on here.

691
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:38,850
But

692
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:41,730
you said don't exist. Said a
heckler at a press a gaggle Look

693
00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:45,510
at this guy. He's saying that I
don't exist. And there you are,

694
00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:49,920
and I don't sure and they saw me
and these barriers that he

695
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,880
placed up here's the question
infowars.com Google does

696
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,660
Facebook should be regulated
like, like, do they need to be?

697
00:41:01,410 --> 00:41:04,320
Alright, yeah. I swear to God,

698
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:08,969
platforming. So the first he
calls him, snake, snake, guys,

699
00:41:09,269 --> 00:41:11,729
frat boy, and then he touches
his shoulder, which he had done

700
00:41:11,729 --> 00:41:13,769
a couple times before, which I
also found to be quite

701
00:41:13,769 --> 00:41:18,119
aggressive. I'd be like, Dude,
don't touch me. And then Rubio

702
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:19,079
falls for it and to

703
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,830
millions of views. Infowars Rush
Limbaugh. He knows who Infowars

704
00:41:22,830 --> 00:41:25,020
is. They play this joke over
here. That's why the deep

705
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:25,830
platforming didn't work.

706
00:41:25,859 --> 00:41:28,139
Thank you. But here's here's the
question. Here's the question.

707
00:41:28,139 --> 00:41:30,179
Don't touch me again. Then I'm
asking you not to touch Well,

708
00:41:30,179 --> 00:41:30,419
sure. I'll

709
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:31,140
just patted you nice.

710
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:34,020
I know. But I don't want to be
who you are. It's not just gonna

711
00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:36,990
I'm gonna get arrested man and
take care of myself.

712
00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:40,740
Oh, he'll beat me up. I didn't
say he's so mad. You're not

713
00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:43,440
gonna silence me. You're not
gonna sound smart. But there are

714
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,240
people are like you are
literally like little gangster.

715
00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:48,030
What was that?

716
00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:51,330
Something on your at the end of
your clip there

717
00:41:52,290 --> 00:41:55,410
shouldn't have been. Anyways,
you will again should tuck in

718
00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:57,690
the ends. But then that then
that's the clip that went

719
00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:00,900
around. But then you gave him
the kudos. And I thought it was

720
00:42:00,930 --> 00:42:03,510
pretty funny. Yeah, although
he's just annoying.

721
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Well, I gave him kudos for
promoting his shows. I gave him

722
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,070
kudos for savage.

723
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:11,910
Michael Savage has an extended
version. That was that was done

724
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:17,280
by Cassandra Fairbanks, one of
the famous Twitter people that

725
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,330
follow and she follows me. And
she was there apparently,

726
00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:26,460
Phillip putting this thing on
Periscope live. And so when

727
00:42:26,490 --> 00:42:32,580
Rubio kind of gave gave up and
started walking away, I think I

728
00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:37,770
think Jones kind of blew his
credibility by calling him out

729
00:42:37,770 --> 00:42:43,620
as gay. And just add and kind of
goes a little nuts on this and

730
00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:50,970
listen to the way it ends. But

731
00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:52,680
while I'm playing it, but I'm
not hearing it.

732
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:54,690
Well, that's not good.

733
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,410
We're kind of preventing foreign
interference in our elections.

734
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,150
That technology could be used by
authoritarian governments to

735
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:05,640
argue we want you to do the same
thing against people that are

736
00:43:06,030 --> 00:43:07,920
maybe you didn't clip this and
when should I move

737
00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:11,010
to China and move it to the
Annecy what it sounds like,

738
00:43:11,010 --> 00:43:11,400
Okay,

739
00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:11,970
careful

740
00:43:11,970 --> 00:43:14,010
about we don't overreach in that
direction. But then he doesn't

741
00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:21,060
know about balance between I
think poor really.

742
00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:27,480
Bro, look on the ground. I think
you gave me the outtake

743
00:43:28,020 --> 00:43:30,840
I may have. Well, yeah, I'll
tell you what he says. He says,

744
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:37,920
no, no, no, no. Okay, okay. But
when he's sorry, I can get that.

745
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,010
We'll get that clip. Like Good.
Stop the show. Go get it? No,

746
00:43:41,010 --> 00:43:44,940
no, no, no, you don't have that
clip. No stopping of the show.

747
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:47,940
He calls him out. He says go
back to the bathhouse.

748
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,970
It's too bad. You didn't have
the clip.

749
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:54,449
This has happened to me before.
It's up to you once,

750
00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:59,370
maybe twice. But it's okay.
Because I have a a clip. Maybe

751
00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:01,950
if similar proportion. This was
really an interesting thing that

752
00:44:01,950 --> 00:44:06,840
happened. We had all you know,
there was lots of messy stuff

753
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,900
going on in the audience. We had
the Democrats shouting in the

754
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:14,100
SCOTUS hearing and then we had
all kinds of stuff going on with

755
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,070
Alex Jones. And of course we had
the social media network and

756
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,870
election hearing. And that was
interrupted by Laura Loomer

757
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:25,110
is Laura Loomer?

758
00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:29,670
I I'm might as well just tell
you what I've been thinking for

759
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:33,540
a while because she actually
comes up with really interesting

760
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:39,030
and well researched and
surprising information certainly

761
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:44,310
about the Vegas shooting. And
she has these just gems of

762
00:44:44,310 --> 00:44:48,180
nuggets from time to time and
then all of a sudden she's a 25

763
00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:51,990
year old moron again. Yeah, it
was like primping for the camera

764
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:56,310
and so she stands up in the back
with her selfie stick and making

765
00:44:56,310 --> 00:44:58,980
sure she's filming herself
causing this ruckus shouting

766
00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:02,610
something to the effect have
Jack Dorsey is meddling in the

767
00:45:02,610 --> 00:45:06,240
elections he's crushing
Republican voice as conservative

768
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:06,930
voices.

769
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:12,570
Okay, hold on. So I didn't see
any of these. Which is why I

770
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,180
expected you to do I don't know
why but I don't

771
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:16,950
know why he either but there you
go.

772
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:20,490
But she was at this

773
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:23,700
Yeah. In the back in the
audience

774
00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:31,020
she's so she stands up and she
starts interrupting and then I'm

775
00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:33,450
watching this dueling C span
screens and by the way, this is

776
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:37,170
great on the on the surface go I
didn't know this about Windows

777
00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:40,170
and maybe it's just the surface
but you can drag a window to the

778
00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:42,870
edge and then poop it'll take up
half the screen and I'll give

779
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:45,180
you a choice for another window.
Yeah, that's it. They'll do it

780
00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:47,010
that doesn't we that's a Windows
10 thing.

781
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Yeah, and then you hit the
Escape button after you've done

782
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,330
it once when ever since

783
00:45:51,330 --> 00:45:54,450
Steve died all that cool stuff
that Apple used to do and now

784
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:56,430
someone's going to tell me they
do it too. I'm sure they do.

785
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,420
That's beside the point very
much beside the point. Anyway,

786
00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:04,800
so I'm looking at this and there
she is. And I'm like this is

787
00:46:04,830 --> 00:46:08,400
just grand dicing and as she has
this thing like you've been

788
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,630
lured and grandstanding. What
did I say? Grand dicing? I'm

789
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:16,800
nydia grandstanding. And she has
this. You've been lured? Like

790
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,200
no, no, no, you guys. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. You gotta be around a

791
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,170
little longer before you can say
that you've lured I mean, I

792
00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,290
wouldn't ever say you've been
DeVore act or curried or no

793
00:46:25,290 --> 00:46:28,020
agenda. No. We say Would you've
been hit in the mouth? That's a

794
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:29,460
little different. But Loomer,
you

795
00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:32,700
can you can always tell it
chicken. It's been curried. Yes.

796
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,390
So you've been lured, so I have
a feeling that she's being run

797
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:40,710
by someone that she has. She has
someone behind her who's giving

798
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:43,740
her great information. And she
just knows how to present it.

799
00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:47,850
She's, you know, semi cute.
She's bubbly, young, energetic,

800
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,210
and you know, so I there's
something going on behind her

801
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:54,630
that that is putting information
out anyway. So this is not one

802
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:58,590
of those moments. This is really
her trying to Loomer and it

803
00:46:58,590 --> 00:47:01,920
fails. But it fails for very
interesting reason. And so I

804
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,510
have these two screens going on.
I'm like, is there a third one

805
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:09,780
is Meachum auto auction on
what's happening here now?

806
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:16,320
recognizes that I get a mic over
to her get a mic over order. Get

807
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,000
a mic over now. We'll have order
in the hearing will be asked to

808
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,220
leave you

809
00:47:24,690 --> 00:47:28,470
please take a seat or we'll have
to have you then you'll need to

810
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:28,830
really

811
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,120
help us. Please help us Mr.
President before it is too late.

812
00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:39,690
Because Jack Dorsey is trying to
influence the election. The

813
00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:40,890
election that is

814
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:48,660
today I'm gonna hand violence
heaven hands 30 $30 up here. At

815
00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:52,020
this point. I'm like, I'm like
what's going on at 40 and she's

816
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:55,890
yelling I'm here in this hot $50
down here to officer will you

817
00:47:55,890 --> 00:47:58,920
escort this young lady out?
Please? Do it half an hour five

818
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,910
772 and a half now 500 divided
by seven I have ended out on a

819
00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:06,480
585 not 100 On a day and day and
day and a quarter one to quarter

820
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,750
one hiatus and about to do due
to quarter two and hands him out

821
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:12,420
three equal to him. 300 hit
three and a quarter, three and a

822
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:15,540
quarter now Hammerhand. Third is
what am I 400 able to fall

823
00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:17,130
forward a quarter, four and a
half. We're selling the cell

824
00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:20,190
phone there for the quarter for
half dead Ford hambletonian. If

825
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:22,890
I'm under five, I would a
quarter five and a half. I yield

826
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:23,250
back.

827
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,910
That was Senator long from
Missouri. That was fantastic.

828
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:36,960
That was a really creative way
of lightening the mood. That was

829
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,200
really good. And so everyone's
just like it was it was perfect.

830
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,070
And then of course the it ends
on such a sour note. Just DOM

831
00:48:44,490 --> 00:48:47,280
was like great. And now is your
moment for the for the great

832
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,370
line of the day and know what
does he do? Now? I think our

833
00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:55,650
AUCTIONEER in residence is gonna
get tweeted about today at it

834
00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:03,420
Okay, so that was all I really
had of the interruptions, guys

835
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,160
like that. Apparently he wasn't
That's it. That's a percent of

836
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,240
the professional to

837
00:49:09,570 --> 00:49:12,840
like, yes. Well, we have a lot
of them here in Tejas. So, yeah,

838
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,670
I'm familiar with them. Yeah.

839
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,820
I've always thought it'd be cool
to be able to do that.

840
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:22,440
If there was a song back in the
day I could do it or the auction

841
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:26,100
I could do that. I could I could
sing along with it. The auction

842
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,620
I just called the Find it for
the next show the auctioneer.

843
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:34,740
Okay, so now we have on the
other side of Senate we have or

844
00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:37,020
wherever I don't know what this
is really. On the other side, we

845
00:49:37,020 --> 00:49:40,230
have the intelligence committee,
and they have a hearing, which

846
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:43,920
is titled foreign influence and
social media. Now, although all

847
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,770
of these things are scripted,
and you could even see both

848
00:49:46,770 --> 00:49:49,470
Dorsey and Sandberg who were the
only two there there was an

849
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:55,830
empty seat ominously empty where
Google didn't show up. Woohoo.

850
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Everyone referenced Ooh, a they
don't have to they write

851
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,580
everyone's checks. They don't
have to show up. So that's

852
00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:05,370
what's going on there. And
where's the outrage? Where's the

853
00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:08,250
media talking about Google being
a bunch of either policies,

854
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,610
something to hide, or just plain
rude?

855
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:13,440
They talk about it.

856
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,550
But only in a normal like
reporting manner

857
00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:21,570
like, Google man. They don't
have to show up as Google. By

858
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:24,990
the way, what is what shows up a
big G? And it will go,

859
00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:26,670
who comes from Google?

860
00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:29,970
Eric Schmidt comes through
Google. Here comes a Google

861
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,330
there. He comes on to a gig as
he talks like this, he can't

862
00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:34,890
really express himself.

863
00:50:35,730 --> 00:50:40,380
That low voice. Okay, I don't
know. So they're not they're

864
00:50:40,410 --> 00:50:41,880
good. And there's no one from
Google.

865
00:50:45,210 --> 00:50:48,930
But you know, you can see
Sandberg and Jack Dorsey from

866
00:50:48,930 --> 00:50:52,260
Twitter. They both have they
basically have the questions in

867
00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:54,750
long form sheets in front of
them so that they know who's

868
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:56,580
coming and our questions are
coming. I don't know if was

869
00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:59,460
abbreviated or not. But we know
these things are scripted. But

870
00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:03,750
this is a topic that not
everyone is well versed in. And

871
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:08,220
I sadly that one I forgot to do
was have an I will clip that for

872
00:51:08,220 --> 00:51:12,330
Sunday's of Kamla Harris trying
to understand the value of an ad

873
00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:16,110
buy, which is really important,
but we can easily discuss it on

874
00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:18,690
Sunday. It's a lot much longer
conversation, because it's so

875
00:51:18,690 --> 00:51:22,680
convoluted. But I think you and
I can pick it apart. Okay, we'll

876
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,180
do that. But the hearing started
off and this is the the first

877
00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:30,120
clip is a little little over two
minutes. And it kind of really

878
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,520
says everything. And it shows
you the difference between these

879
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,060
two personalities and I believe
also the DNA of their companies.

880
00:51:36,990 --> 00:51:39,870
I don't know why I was up
talking. And it was

881
00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:43,830
I was doing my technique. I was
doing my

882
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,990
I was doing my tech reporter
voice that's what it was. These

883
00:51:48,990 --> 00:51:51,750
two companies, okay, let me tell
you all about it. So these I

884
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:56,730
caught myself. And the first
question is the only question

885
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:59,040
really, we needed to have
answered maybe I should ask you

886
00:51:59,070 --> 00:52:01,830
first for some reflection,
because the first quick question

887
00:52:01,830 --> 00:52:05,730
is, from the chairman is, what
is social media?

888
00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:10,680
What is social media to you,
John? Before we hear from our

889
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,310
witnesses,

890
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:18,300
social media is a construct
using the internet to

891
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:26,250
interconnect people in groups,
forums, or even individually so

892
00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:29,250
they can interact without being
anywhere near each other.

893
00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:33,390
Someone should write that down
because that was very good.

894
00:52:34,890 --> 00:52:40,350
As you can imagine, it's not at
all what their answers were. And

895
00:52:40,380 --> 00:52:43,650
oh, and Sandberg now let me just
get my other notes here. I did

896
00:52:43,650 --> 00:52:45,780
take a number of notes even
though we have just a few clips

897
00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:49,620
first of all, Sandberg I'm sorry
and I I tried this out on Tina

898
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:53,370
last night not as a joke, but
purely is as just an observation

899
00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:57,090
and didn't go very far but
Sandberg has got to be watching

900
00:52:57,090 --> 00:53:00,420
these hearings of herself. I'm
sure she saw some tape. I'm

901
00:53:00,420 --> 00:53:04,560
thinking oh my god why did I
fuck up my nose so bad? I mean,

902
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,890
she did something with a nose
job it was probably a second or

903
00:53:07,890 --> 00:53:12,270
a third time and it she had a
you know a broad nose if you

904
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:15,540
look at the book of knowledge
and you go back and but it was

905
00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:18,300
cute it was nothing wrong with
it. And you know now it has kind

906
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:22,050
of that Michael Jackson thing
where choose sides in a way like

907
00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:31,710
Mike It's Michael circa 19 A the
nine you know where it's it's

908
00:53:31,710 --> 00:53:35,130
clutch starts to fall in on the
side and then the way the light

909
00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:38,940
hits. It just looks like you
have a small Keno structure left

910
00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:41,100
looks like you have a small
penis on your face. I mean, it's

911
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:44,730
really bad. So anyway, and I'm
sorry for her that she did that.

912
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,030
But let it be a warning people.
Be careful what you do with your

913
00:53:48,030 --> 00:53:52,650
face. Dorsey read his opening
that opening statements. Dorsey

914
00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:54,990
read his opening statement from
his iPhone, which I think was a

915
00:53:54,990 --> 00:54:00,480
big mistake. He looked and he is
nervous. And he's if he if he

916
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,060
hadn't said I'm shy at the
beginning, which he did. And I

917
00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:06,390
usually don't do these things.
I'm shy. He could have been seen

918
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:11,700
as much, much closer to Tony
Stark than Elon Musk. Because he

919
00:54:11,730 --> 00:54:15,510
comes across as a very deep
thinker. He carries his words

920
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:19,080
very carefully. And I actually
think he is a deep thinker and

921
00:54:19,110 --> 00:54:21,810
has thought about what he's
doing and what Twitter is. And I

922
00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:24,510
have to say I'm very impressed
by his performance in general.

923
00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:29,370
Let me see, when you're the
typical things are in there

924
00:54:29,370 --> 00:54:33,180
about their business model and
all that stuff. We've heard it a

925
00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:37,140
million times. But there were
some new terms and a couple

926
00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:40,380
things I highlighted again, the
the advertising and the money

927
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:42,510
flow and everything. I didn't
get that want to do that on

928
00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:44,910
Sunday. But let's start off with
the opening statements with that

929
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:47,730
very question. This question is
to oh and Sandberg.

930
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,660
But hold on a second. Before you
start teasing Sunday.

931
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,870
Oh, you're right. What am I
thinking? It's not Sunday,

932
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:56,640
Sunday, Sunday. We have a
special show.

933
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:59,160
Yeah, you're talking about next
Thursday.

934
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Yes, next Thursday. say, Sorry,
I'll probably forget. We'll

935
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,520
never know you won't.

936
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:10,290
I'll remember. I will remember
the Sandberg Kamla Harris clip.

937
00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:16,110
Okay, it's programmed. Now back
to the back to the show. And

938
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,430
Charles Samberg saw the her
entire testimony was Miss Goody

939
00:55:20,430 --> 00:55:24,600
goody two shoes, borderline
valley girl had everything all

940
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,950
sewn up. She's that veteran she
knows Jack's nervous and shy.

941
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,430
And she The

942
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:38,430
question is to both of you. How
would you define social media

943
00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:42,540
for this committee and more
importantly for the American

944
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:44,310
people, and I'll start with you
must remember,

945
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:48,660
social media enables you to
share what you want to share

946
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:51,570
when you want to share it
without asking permission from

947
00:55:51,570 --> 00:55:52,050
anyone.

948
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,070
That's that's the top thing
right there. Social media lets

949
00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:59,460
you share what you want to share
with anyone without any

950
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,730
permission except permission
from Facebook.

951
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:07,710
And that's how we meet our
mission, which is giving people

952
00:56:07,710 --> 00:56:08,520
a voice,

953
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,460
I would have stopped right
there. Somebody should say Oh,

954
00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:15,660
really. So people can share like
illegal images or Atom Bomb

955
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:20,520
plans, or anything they want to
share or there's you know, some

956
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,920
sort of a meeting that's going
to do overthrow the government.

957
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,290
That's all shareable. That's
That's what social media is all

958
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:26,940
about is that

959
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:32,370
you are now the senator from
Kentucky. You have just won your

960
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:35,340
seat on the house and on the
Senate Intelligence Committee.

961
00:56:35,370 --> 00:56:36,630
I'll start with you Miss
Sandberg.

962
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:40,980
Social media enables you to
share what you want to share

963
00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:43,680
when you want to share it
without asking permission.

964
00:56:44,339 --> 00:56:47,339
I just want that on a big
placard. Anyone.

965
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:52,470
And that's how we meet our
mission, which is giving people

966
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:55,980
a voice. I think what's more
important than just the content

967
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:59,880
people shares the connections
they make. Social media enables

968
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:05,010
people to celebrate their
birthdays. social medias

969
00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:06,120
Birthday Calendar

970
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:17,280
when I heard that, I said this
is fed ASIC. How did they How

971
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,910
did they come up with this? Who
approved that design? Oh, yeah.

972
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:25,020
Number two on the list
birthdays. The Dutch are jumping

973
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:25,710
up and down.

974
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:28,350
And I think what's more
important than just the content,

975
00:57:28,350 --> 00:57:32,250
people shares, the connections
they make. Social media enables

976
00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:34,620
people to celebrate their
birthdays. I'm

977
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:37,830
sorry, I just this was my first
birthday in many years without

978
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:41,460
Facebook. And

979
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:44,490
you celebrated just fine.

980
00:57:44,490 --> 00:57:50,280
Yeah, I'm still here. And it was
really calm. And the few people

981
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,530
that did get through to me. They
really loved me. So it was a

982
00:57:55,530 --> 00:57:56,070
good feeling.

983
00:57:56,490 --> 00:57:59,310
And the last year people have
raised $300 million dollars on

984
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,610
Facebook, on birthday funders
for nonprofits. They care about

985
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,850
birthday funders. It's a double
whammy on the birthdays for the

986
00:58:05,850 --> 00:58:06,630
social nets.

987
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,370
Safety Check. In the worst
circumstances of their lives,

988
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:13,680
have let their loved ones know
they're safe.

989
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:17,910
How about a text message? Does
that work? Still? Hey, I'm still

990
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:21,060
alive. Oh, no, thank God,
there's Facebook,

991
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,700
and small businesses to grow.
All around the country. I meet

992
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:30,000
with small businesses from a
woman making dresses in her

993
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,120
living room and selling them on
Instagram with one arm to a

994
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,050
local plumber, with no legs are
able to find their customers on

995
00:58:37,050 --> 00:58:40,830
Facebook, and then able to grow
and hire people and live their

996
00:58:40,830 --> 00:58:41,610
American dream.

997
00:58:42,330 --> 00:58:45,480
And that's their entire
statement. That is what social

998
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,830
media is. It's about sharing
anything you want without anyone

999
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:53,880
telling you what to do. Unless
your name is Alex Jones. It's

1000
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,600
about birthdays. raising money
for birthdays.

1001
00:58:57,990 --> 00:59:01,440
And what was the last one? Yeah,
small businesses.

1002
00:59:01,470 --> 00:59:05,880
Oh, yeah. Late. Yes, sad people
with little who had no retirees

1003
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,970
who are doing work somewhere,
they can make a buck.

1004
00:59:09,150 --> 00:59:17,610
And that's social media. So Jack
Dorsey who knew I mean, if I was

1005
00:59:17,610 --> 00:59:20,760
Zuckerberg, like, Dude, you
didn't do a good job on that.

1006
00:59:21,810 --> 00:59:25,200
That's not what social media is.
Anyway.

1007
00:59:26,790 --> 00:59:30,240
So Dorsey doesn't really even
answer the question. He goes

1008
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,390
straight to where what he's
thinking and this will come back

1009
00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:36,570
and I have just a couple other
clips. This will come back. And

1010
00:59:36,570 --> 00:59:39,270
it's deep, and I really
appreciate the thinking he put

1011
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:43,650
into it. And also notice that
the senator addresses him as

1012
00:59:43,650 --> 00:59:47,280
Jack and not Mr. Dorsey in this
particular clip. I just thought

1013
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,960
that was interesting for
context,

1014
00:59:48,990 --> 00:59:52,440
are able to find their customers
on Facebook, and then able to

1015
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,380
grow and hire people and live
their American dream.

1016
01:00:00,690 --> 01:00:05,100
I believe it's really important
to, to understand how the people

1017
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:10,500
see it. And we believe that the
people use Twitter as they would

1018
01:00:10,530 --> 01:00:14,880
a public square. And they often
have the same expectations that

1019
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:20,160
they would have of any public
space. For our part, we see our

1020
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,720
platform as hosting and serving
conversations. Those

1021
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,200
conversations are on the public.
I think there's a lot of benefit

1022
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:31,320
to those conversations being in
the public. But there's

1023
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:37,290
obviously a lot of risks as
well. We see that news and

1024
01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:41,010
entertainment are actually
byproducts of public

1025
01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:41,700
conversation.

1026
01:00:41,970 --> 01:00:43,710
The various astute observation.

1027
01:00:44,970 --> 01:00:47,550
I don't know if the media likes
it, but I thought that was good.

1028
01:00:47,550 --> 01:00:49,440
Yes, it's a byproduct.
Absolutely.

1029
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,890
The media should like it, and
they should use it as ammunition

1030
01:00:52,890 --> 01:00:58,140
against them. Because he's not,
it's not primary. So yeah, you

1031
01:00:58,140 --> 01:01:01,830
can advertise with Twitter. But
it's a byproduct of advertising

1032
01:01:01,830 --> 01:01:04,740
with a byproduct, the byproduct
a byproduct of poor

1033
01:01:04,770 --> 01:01:08,490
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, he
says something he said news is a

1034
01:01:08,490 --> 01:01:09,780
byproduct of

1035
01:01:09,930 --> 01:01:12,960
Twitter. Yeah,

1036
01:01:12,990 --> 01:01:15,420
I think what he means by news is
like reporting news.

1037
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,350
Yeah. So So Twitter is the
ground zero, the media is just

1038
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:22,620
taken the shreds that fly off
the edge of the machine? I

1039
01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:24,810
think I think, no, I don't think
that's what he meant.

1040
01:01:25,110 --> 01:01:26,820
That's I think that's exactly
what he meant.

1041
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,870
Well, it doesn't matter. We can
disagree on that. That's I like

1042
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:32,070
to continue, yes.

1043
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:36,600
And entertainment, are actually
byproducts of public

1044
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:42,570
conversation. And we see our
role as helping to not only

1045
01:01:42,570 --> 01:01:45,540
serve that public conversation
so that everyone can benefit,

1046
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:47,460
even if they don't have a
Twitter account.

1047
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,720
I don't know what that means.
Everyone can benefit from

1048
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,640
Twitter, even if you don't have
a Twitter account.

1049
01:01:54,030 --> 01:01:57,180
Well, you know, he's going to
cite you know, always put it Oh,

1050
01:01:57,180 --> 01:01:57,900
Okay, gotcha,

1051
01:01:57,930 --> 01:02:01,260
to not only serve that public
conversation so that everyone

1052
01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:04,710
can benefit, even if they don't
have a Twitter account. That's

1053
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:08,460
important, but also to increase
the health of that conversation

1054
01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:11,670
as well to health and nor do
that, in order to do that we

1055
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:14,430
need to be able to measure it.
We need to

1056
01:02:14,730 --> 01:02:18,720
know that yeah, this is deep. So
he's saying the health of that

1057
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,590
conversation. And I think the
health I think contextually, I

1058
01:02:22,590 --> 01:02:25,170
think I understand what he's
talking about. Is it a health?

1059
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,560
The health? Yes, the health. So
the healthiness of the of the

1060
01:02:28,620 --> 01:02:33,300
conversation, the health, if it
is something that is making

1061
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,800
people happy, and therefore
healthy, because they either I

1062
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,260
always would say, agree with
each other as one way, if you

1063
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:42,660
have everyone agreeing with each
other, I don't know how that

1064
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:43,710
works. But okay.

1065
01:02:44,820 --> 01:02:48,000
Or go into Dimension B for a few
minutes on Twitter, you'll know

1066
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,020
how it works really quick,

1067
01:02:49,230 --> 01:02:53,580
right? But, but do we all agree
that he's saying healthy

1068
01:02:53,580 --> 01:02:56,550
conversations where people
aren't like, making themselves

1069
01:02:56,550 --> 01:02:59,220
sick, literally making
themselves sick, which is what

1070
01:02:59,220 --> 01:03:02,460
social media is, what is social
media, Mr. Curry, it's a place

1071
01:03:02,460 --> 01:03:05,910
where people go to get sick.
That's my answer,

1072
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:09,840
but also to increase the health
of that conversation as well.

1073
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:13,110
And nor do that, in order to do
that we need to be able to

1074
01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:16,980
measure measure, we need to
understand what healthy

1075
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:20,730
participation looks like in a
public square. And we need to

1076
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:24,900
amplify that. And more
importantly, we need to question

1077
01:03:24,930 --> 01:03:30,330
a lot of the fundamentals that
we started with 12 years ago, in

1078
01:03:30,330 --> 01:03:34,470
the form of incentives, when
people use our product every

1079
01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:38,100
single day, when they open our
app up, whatever we

1080
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:42,450
incentivizing them to do. Not
telling them what to do, where

1081
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,260
are we actually incentivizing
them to do and that certainly

1082
01:03:46,260 --> 01:03:51,030
speaks to the buttons that we
have in our service. All the way

1083
01:03:51,030 --> 01:03:53,160
to our business model didn't
really

1084
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,550
answer that. Well, he dealt with
a social media question quite

1085
01:03:56,550 --> 01:03:59,640
quite quite quickly. It's a it's
a public square, and people

1086
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:04,590
expect the same type of actions
they can take on the public

1087
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:08,190
square. Although I would wager
to say because of anonymity,

1088
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:11,460
people actually show themselves
their true selves and being on

1089
01:04:11,460 --> 01:04:14,820
Twitter is like looking at your
own anus. Because we're all like

1090
01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:18,360
that into some degree. But then
he goes into this very deep

1091
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,820
thinking, which we'll come back
to later. But what exactly are

1092
01:04:20,820 --> 01:04:23,730
we doing? What are we doing
here? Now? I don't know if you

1093
01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:28,680
can ever measure the health of a
conversation. Although you never

1094
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:34,320
know what machine learning and
AI can do. But I thought that

1095
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:40,710
was at least I'm thinking and
not the it's for birthdays. Now

1096
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:45,720
this being the time code down,
okay, I already have a couple

1097
01:04:48,450 --> 01:04:53,880
okay. This being the foreign
influence and social media. So

1098
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:58,590
how are we respond? It's just
kind of a general response to

1099
01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:00,810
are they working together we
call elaborating what are we

1100
01:05:00,810 --> 01:05:04,350
doing? The minute we see bad
actors are actually a new term

1101
01:05:04,350 --> 01:05:08,010
will pop up in a moment.
Whenever we see these bad

1102
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:12,300
actors, are we do we have the
systems in place? And man when

1103
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:14,430
you listen to this and how
they're all like agreeing with

1104
01:05:14,430 --> 01:05:17,430
each other and nodding and oh,
yeah, yeah, we're all locked

1105
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:17,970
down.

1106
01:05:17,999 --> 01:05:20,759
I think our collaboration has
greatly increased. We've always

1107
01:05:20,759 --> 01:05:22,949
worked closely with law
enforcement. And we continue to

1108
01:05:22,949 --> 01:05:26,759
do that. And particularly the
FBI is New Task Force, sharing

1109
01:05:26,759 --> 01:05:29,219
information with other
companies. But I think we are

1110
01:05:29,219 --> 01:05:32,849
doing better and we can continue
to do better. Mr. Chairman, you

1111
01:05:32,849 --> 01:05:36,149
noted in your opening remarks
that some of the tips we got

1112
01:05:36,149 --> 01:05:39,389
from came from a private
security firm, in our mind,

1113
01:05:39,389 --> 01:05:43,049
that's the system working, our
opponents are very well funded.

1114
01:05:43,379 --> 01:05:46,649
They are very organized, and
we're gonna get those tips from

1115
01:05:46,649 --> 01:05:50,879
law enforcement from each other,
from private firms that foster

1116
01:05:51,209 --> 01:05:55,049
elaborate stuff faster, we share
those tips with each other, the

1117
01:05:55,049 --> 01:05:57,629
more the stronger, our
collective defenses will be

1118
01:05:58,110 --> 01:05:59,970
far away if you get too far away
from what

1119
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,750
what? That was just that was
just a little bit of a report

1120
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:04,230
that our

1121
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:08,130
opponents Yes, man that's
opposed to me and

1122
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:11,220
the new FBI task force that
certainly has great

1123
01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:14,100
collaborating with them. Now,
yeah.

1124
01:06:14,460 --> 01:06:16,440
What does she mean by our
opponents?

1125
01:06:16,860 --> 01:06:17,730
The Russians?

1126
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,010
So it should show you sure she
doesn't mean Republicans?

1127
01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:26,760
Well, she didn't say Russians,
he said opponents. So I think

1128
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:31,200
that she meant a wide variety
could be Republicans who are

1129
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,300
influenced by Russians, or who
have ever had a Russian dressing

1130
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:40,200
on their salad. I don't know.
Those are her words. And they

1131
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:43,350
and she's pretty precise with
how she speaks. This is all

1132
01:06:43,350 --> 01:06:44,670
cheese rehearsed quite well.

1133
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,490
Our opponents, our

1134
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:51,210
opponents, yes. And we have the
special especially now. 30. I

1135
01:06:51,450 --> 01:06:55,050
really mean, right, we got to
stop. And I want to look up this

1136
01:06:55,050 --> 01:07:02,280
word. Okay. And we have to
assume that there's some

1137
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:14,010
something within this
definition. compete. Okay. If

1138
01:07:14,010 --> 01:07:18,360
she says our opponents Yeah, she
says someone who it says someone

1139
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:24,060
who competes against or fights a
another in a contest, game or

1140
01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:27,390
argument, a rival or adversary.

1141
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:30,660
Yes. I think Russia fits in
there. But also Republicans. I

1142
01:07:30,660 --> 01:07:34,320
think think Twitter fits in.
Yes. That actually when she when

1143
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,620
I first heard this, because you
know, you'd paying attention a

1144
01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:39,900
lot of things same time. I
thought she was actually talking

1145
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:44,040
about Twitter. But then I went
back. And she wasn't she was

1146
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,320
referring to his opening
comments about the attacks on

1147
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,070
our democracy.

1148
01:07:48,660 --> 01:07:52,470
tax on our democracy. By our
opponents, you means the attacks

1149
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:56,370
on our democracy? I think so.
Yeah. The $100,000 with the

1150
01:07:56,370 --> 01:07:58,620
cheap advertising this kind of
silly. Yes. And

1151
01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:03,630
and the $100,000. Again, I'm
sorry, a week from today. We'll

1152
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:05,880
we'll pull that apart that did
come up. And it's important.

1153
01:08:06,839 --> 01:08:07,949
Alright, let me move on.

1154
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:14,250
Because now we have a new term,
as we're now going to talk about

1155
01:08:14,490 --> 01:08:19,080
a little more about what is
permitted, what can and can't be

1156
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,730
done on the platform. And she
has all kinds of interesting

1157
01:08:23,730 --> 01:08:28,140
terms very much like an
unindicted co conspirator

1158
01:08:28,410 --> 01:08:32,280
wishes. What will go on Donald
Trump's tombstone? If it's up to

1159
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,000
the up to the Democrats,
unindicted co conspirator who's

1160
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,600
pre dead. At this moment, we pre
cancerous.

1161
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,570
So here, we're going to talk
about well, you'll hear it's

1162
01:08:45,570 --> 01:08:47,670
just new terms and interesting
stuff. What

1163
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:51,450
what entity do you have in each
of your companies who make these

1164
01:08:51,450 --> 01:08:52,560
determinations?

1165
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:56,160
Our policy team is setting those
and our security team is finding

1166
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,120
them in coordinated inauthentic
behavior on our site that

1167
01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:03,480
this is it. This is this is her
big thing. In authentic

1168
01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:06,510
behavior. You want to look
something up? What does that

1169
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:10,260
mean? Isn't everybody by
definition who's on Facebook in

1170
01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:11,100
authentic?

1171
01:09:11,970 --> 01:09:13,260
That's the whole game, isn't it?

1172
01:09:13,290 --> 01:09:17,160
Yes. You're supposed to be
inauthentic. Look inauthentic.

1173
01:09:17,250 --> 01:09:19,980
Take pictures that are
inauthentic, posting

1174
01:09:19,980 --> 01:09:23,610
authentically. And once in a
while, say Trump is a dick.

1175
01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:26,910
Isn't that what everyone does?
That's the only authenticity I'm

1176
01:09:26,910 --> 01:09:27,300
seeing.

1177
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:30,480
coordinated, inauthentic
behavior means behavior on our

1178
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:33,390
site that's inauthentic. So
people are not representing

1179
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:37,200
themselves to be who they are to
be uncoordinated. They are.

1180
01:09:39,060 --> 01:09:42,570
No, representing themselves who
they are to be

1181
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,450
not representing themselves to
be who they are to be

1182
01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:47,520
who they are to be. What does
that even mean? Well, they're

1183
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,250
not representing themselves who
they are to be who they are to

1184
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:53,460
be from Arby's who they are to
be sandwich from Arby's.

1185
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,420
They are not representing
themselves to who they are. They

1186
01:09:57,420 --> 01:09:59,550
are to be blah, blah blah. They
are to be

1187
01:10:01,650 --> 01:10:04,740
Okay, so you know, she's trying
to explain inauthentic behavior,

1188
01:10:04,740 --> 01:10:09,720
I think she means that they
can't really and if they think

1189
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,540
she even refers to it, they
can't really track if someone's

1190
01:10:12,570 --> 01:10:16,260
being inauthentic, which I guess
means I'm a Russian spy,

1191
01:10:16,650 --> 01:10:20,430
covering as the hot girl in a
bikini. On Facebook, I think

1192
01:10:20,430 --> 01:10:21,780
that's what she means if

1193
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:25,200
your means behavior on our site
that's inauthentic. So people

1194
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,350
are not representing themselves
to be who they are to be

1195
01:10:28,710 --> 01:10:31,620
uncoordinated means they are
coordinating. And they can be

1196
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:34,860
coordinating with authentic
actors and coordinating with an

1197
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:35,820
authentic actors.

1198
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:39,270
I need a roadmap for this. I
don't know who to coordinate

1199
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:42,390
with you. I mean, authentic,
bro. Sorry. Both are

1200
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:47,040
unacceptable. Is this something
that is

1201
01:10:47,070 --> 01:10:49,650
easy to recognize people
unanimous about it? Or do you

1202
01:10:49,650 --> 01:10:53,100
wind up with debates as to
whether or not that guy for

1203
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:58,350
real is not? The only unanswered
question ever, certain platforms

1204
01:10:58,350 --> 01:10:59,220
should be shut down?

1205
01:10:59,940 --> 01:11:03,090
I think on a lot of issues, like
hate speech, there's broad

1206
01:11:03,090 --> 01:11:06,390
debates. When it comes to what
is an inauthentic actor, which

1207
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:09,990
is a fake account posing as
someone they're hard to find.

1208
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:13,140
But once we find them, we know
what they are, who sets the

1209
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:17,580
standard state, same committee,
the same group of people.

1210
01:11:18,090 --> 01:11:22,020
And just for context, she said
quite clearly it's I don't have

1211
01:11:22,020 --> 01:11:25,590
it in this clip, that Facebook
is not in the business of

1212
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:30,270
determining what is fact or
false, what is true or false or

1213
01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:33,720
fake news or fact or fact check
false whatever the hell it is

1214
01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:39,270
false, that they use third party
independent or independent third

1215
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:44,460
parties for that, which means
the independent fact check

1216
01:11:44,460 --> 01:11:50,010
network, which includes such
luminary members as The Daily

1217
01:11:50,010 --> 01:11:55,080
Caller Foundation, Tucker
Carlson's thing into Snopes. So

1218
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:57,360
you know, I don't know what can
come out of that. But okay,

1219
01:11:57,390 --> 01:11:57,870
fine.

1220
01:11:58,170 --> 01:12:00,960
Well, give me give me some
examples of standards that are

1221
01:12:00,990 --> 01:12:01,890
unacceptable

1222
01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:05,370
in the coordinated inauthentic
behavior or in general in

1223
01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:08,070
general. Yeah, so we publish our
community standards

1224
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:11,430
comprehensively. And what that
does is define what's permitted

1225
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:12,540
on Facebook and what's not.

1226
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:16,860
Okay, here we finally what's
permitted and what's not, okay,

1227
01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:20,040
permitted on Facebook. So some
examples are bullying is not

1228
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,860
permitted. Bullying. Hate is not
permitted.

1229
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,220
Hate is not permitted, not hate
speech, hate is not permitted.

1230
01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:28,110
Hey, don't hate

1231
01:12:28,230 --> 01:12:31,440
language that leads to violence
is not permitted. And this is

1232
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,720
published in detail. Publicly,

1233
01:12:33,810 --> 01:12:37,950
publicly, we publish that
publicly. Hate is not allowed.

1234
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,880
This is what is left of your
social network of hate is not

1235
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,330
allowed hate speech. Okay. We've
we've tried to define that not

1236
01:12:45,330 --> 01:12:48,900
legally, but now just hate. So
if I go on Facebook, like I hate

1237
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:54,570
this guy, am I in violation is a
violation? Yes. Yes, you are. If

1238
01:12:54,570 --> 01:12:58,590
you hate President Trump, you're
violating everybody. They all

1239
01:12:58,590 --> 01:13:02,520
hate. There is a group, there's
a Facebook group when I was last

1240
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,350
on it, you know, when was that
March.

1241
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:10,410
That is called I hate Donald
Trump. That should be not

1242
01:13:10,410 --> 01:13:11,610
allowed. Well,

1243
01:13:11,610 --> 01:13:14,040
then obviously one of the
senators would bring that out.

1244
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:20,430
final clip for this is and we're
now coming back round to the

1245
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:24,870
incentives. And you will hear
Sandberg was I didn't even put

1246
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:30,270
Sandberg in this. She has no
vision. Just bad nose job and

1247
01:13:30,270 --> 01:13:33,570
Dorsey. He's thinking deep about
it, I want to get

1248
01:13:33,570 --> 01:13:41,580
to the basic issue of whether
our incentives in this case are

1249
01:13:41,580 --> 01:13:43,710
aligned to deal with these
challenges.

1250
01:13:43,769 --> 01:13:46,859
And by the way, I'm pretty sure
that Dorsey because of the jack

1251
01:13:46,859 --> 01:13:50,759
comment that he coordinated this
with the with the chairman. This

1252
01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:53,969
is where they're going towards
incentives and how the social

1253
01:13:53,969 --> 01:13:59,009
networks are responsible for a
lot of this bad behavior. And

1254
01:13:59,039 --> 01:14:01,409
this is a setup, I'm not sure
how they're going to play it

1255
01:14:01,409 --> 01:14:03,959
out. I think it's way too
complicated for most, but I

1256
01:14:03,959 --> 01:14:04,979
think that's what's going on.

1257
01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:08,910
If your users were to lose
confidence, confidence in your

1258
01:14:08,910 --> 01:14:14,850
platforms, in the authenticity
of what you Mr. Dorsey called a

1259
01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:18,480
public square, I might call it a
digital public square. Wow,

1260
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:22,890
inventive. I assume there'd be
very serious economic

1261
01:14:22,890 --> 01:14:26,610
implications for your companies.
Do you think the the incentives

1262
01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:31,560
have aligned for platform
providers of all types in the

1263
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:36,600
digital space to want to get at
these issues and have a plan and

1264
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,770
be able to respond in real time?
Miss Sandberg? And then you Mr.

1265
01:14:40,770 --> 01:14:41,130
Dorsey?

1266
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,030
Absolutely, absolutely. Trust is
the cornerstone of our business.

1267
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:47,370
People have to trust that what
they see on Facebook is

1268
01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:51,240
authentic. People have to trust
that this is a positive force

1269
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,390
for democracy and the things
they care about. And so this has

1270
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:57,690
been a huge issue for us and
that's why we're here today. And

1271
01:14:57,690 --> 01:15:00,240
that's why we're going to keep
working to get ahead These

1272
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,660
threats and make sure we can
minimize all of this activity.

1273
01:15:03,930 --> 01:15:07,140
Mr. Chairman, I just want you
know, we had Facebook, we're all

1274
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:11,460
on board. Do you like my tight
sweater? I mean, seriously, is

1275
01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:15,390
that her vision? Is that Is that
how concerned she is very

1276
01:15:15,390 --> 01:15:16,950
disappointing, short Facebook.

1277
01:15:18,060 --> 01:15:21,180
Our incentives are aligned. But
I do believe it goes a lot

1278
01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:25,500
deeper than just the alignment
of our company incentives with

1279
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:29,220
this committee and the American
people. I believe we need to

1280
01:15:29,220 --> 01:15:33,030
question the fundamental exempt
incentives that are in our

1281
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:36,870
product today. Yeah, every time
someone opens up our service,

1282
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:40,320
every time someone opens up our
app, we are implicitly

1283
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,660
incentivizing them to do
something or not to do

1284
01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:46,770
something. And that extends all
the way to our business. And

1285
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:51,810
those answers that we get from
asking that question, are going

1286
01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:56,100
to create massive shifts in how
Twitter operates. And I also

1287
01:15:56,100 --> 01:16:00,420
believe our industry operates.
So what worked 12 years ago does

1288
01:16:00,420 --> 01:16:04,320
not work today. It hasn't
evolved fast enough. But I think

1289
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:10,290
it's a layer. Many, many, many,
many layers deeper than the

1290
01:16:10,290 --> 01:16:13,920
surface symptoms that we often
find ourselves discussing.

1291
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:20,190
I like his answer. Yeah, you're
you're getting a

1292
01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:24,240
bromance. Yeah. And I'm no fan
of Jack Dorsey. We know he

1293
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:29,610
probably dislikes me. I'm not
verified have asked have never

1294
01:16:29,610 --> 01:16:32,460
even gotten the straight up
answer. People have asked on my

1295
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:35,280
behalf still do I don't want it
anymore, because then I will

1296
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,440
have to leave Twitter because
it's the mark of the beast.

1297
01:16:40,620 --> 01:16:44,820
But I like what he says here.
And I in he is I used to hate

1298
01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:47,850
what's going to change
massively. And I think not to

1299
01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:53,070
their benefit. I think he
realizes that. Thank God he has

1300
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:56,190
squares, what he's thinking damn
glad I got into that business.

1301
01:16:56,850 --> 01:16:58,260
Yeah, that was a smart move.

1302
01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:06,210
Ah, as far as I'm concerned,
Twitter was always the invention

1303
01:17:06,210 --> 01:17:11,670
of Egghead rather than Williams,
right. Who invented blogger

1304
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,460
made, you know, is worth a
billion dollars. It was

1305
01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:15,180
blogging.

1306
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:17,370
It was all based on RSS.

1307
01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:21,600
That's what Twitter were
originally. You know, it was

1308
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:25,830
podcast platform blogger. No,
no, it was a podcast but it was

1309
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:29,370
audio. Audio, I

1310
01:17:29,370 --> 01:17:33,030
came Twitter Podio was the
podcast competitor to me vo but

1311
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:35,970
they had a platform and we just
had content, don't you remember?

1312
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:40,830
No. Yeah, audio. And then they
never really launched and they

1313
01:17:40,830 --> 01:17:43,320
turned they came up with this
follow thing which I think they

1314
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,910
had in their podcast
environment. And that became

1315
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:51,090
Twitter. And then podcasting
just went in the crapper for 10

1316
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:54,270
years. Because then we had
social nets and that was the

1317
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:56,280
next next new new new big thing.

1318
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,790
I'm not sure of this guy.

1319
01:18:00,420 --> 01:18:03,420
I know my history my friend and
we discuss it on the show. We

1320
01:18:03,420 --> 01:18:08,310
discuss it on the show. Well
with that, I'd like to thank you

1321
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:11,970
for your courage to say in the
morning, John. C stands for

1322
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:12,750
Charles

1323
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,470
DeVore Ack. You welcome. Oh,
wait, I'm

1324
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:19,500
sorry. Well, in the morning to
you too. Mr. Adam curry also

1325
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:21,900
eldership says he boots on the
ground feet near some snow water

1326
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:23,280
and all the names and ice out
dan in

1327
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,950
the morning to the troll room.
No agenda stream.com Good to see

1328
01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:30,960
all the trolls here. And in a
good mood today. Everyone's I

1329
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,230
think everyone had a lot of fun
watching C span during the week.

1330
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,010
Yeah,

1331
01:18:35,070 --> 01:18:35,790
where's real?

1332
01:18:35,820 --> 01:18:39,570
We're an energetic bunch. We
are. We watch C span as a group.

1333
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:45,210
And in the morning to nick the
rat, who was awarded the the

1334
01:18:45,210 --> 01:18:49,830
choice of pic for album art for
episode 1065. The title of God

1335
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:55,860
headed IV week we might flux
capacitator was the title of the

1336
01:18:55,860 --> 01:19:01,560
show. And this was Comey. James
Comey looking at his laundry

1337
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,880
line of drying counterfeit money
or not counterfeit washed money

1338
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,730
laundered, laundered, laundered
I'm sorry. white washed

1339
01:19:08,730 --> 01:19:14,190
laundered money. As we it was
interesting, because I just read

1340
01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:18,360
No, we're talking about we have
the military intelligence versus

1341
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:23,730
the CIA Central Intelligence. We
have Democrats, Republicans, you

1342
01:19:23,730 --> 01:19:27,120
know, now of course, we have
Nike versus Adidas going up

1343
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:32,970
because Nikes got Kaepernick and
Adidas has Kanye. And we have

1344
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:37,200
the banks who are laundering
money, drug money, typically.

1345
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:39,630
And then you have the real
estate guys like Trump who

1346
01:19:39,630 --> 01:19:42,570
launder money. So what we used
to just call commerce, just

1347
01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:45,000
doing private transactions, but
now we always think of

1348
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,520
everything as a crime. Who
cares? I don't care where you

1349
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,920
got your money from. You want to
buy this apartment? Good. Here

1350
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,070
you go. Trump is just laughing
his ass off and they hate him

1351
01:19:53,070 --> 01:19:56,640
for it. And I just read that ing
and the Netherlands just paid a

1352
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:03,150
775 million euro claim are a
fine to the Europeans, I guess

1353
01:20:03,150 --> 01:20:07,050
the central bank I know where
they send it to the EU for money

1354
01:20:07,050 --> 01:20:08,880
laundering, drug money
laundering, because they weren't

1355
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,170
paying close enough attention to
the deposits. You see, I did

1356
01:20:13,169 --> 01:20:17,459
some research on this. To figure
out how to do money laundering

1357
01:20:17,459 --> 01:20:19,049
as a real estate guy, just what

1358
01:20:19,290 --> 01:20:21,960
you may mean some job research.

1359
01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:24,690
My exit strategy?

1360
01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:28,170
Turns out it's a good one,

1361
01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:32,580
it turns out to be a very good
one and you end up reason is

1362
01:20:32,580 --> 01:20:34,950
because it's essentially legal

1363
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:36,600
completely legal, you do not
have

1364
01:20:37,559 --> 01:20:40,679
breaking any laws by being a
money launderer if we want to

1365
01:20:40,679 --> 01:20:42,779
call him that if we even assume
we're correct in our

1366
01:20:42,779 --> 01:20:47,459
assumptions, which I believe we
are. And that is because the

1367
01:20:47,489 --> 01:20:53,219
restrictions on banks taking in
cash and not reporting it. Yeah,

1368
01:20:53,219 --> 01:20:57,359
um, drug companies and stuff.
Still powdery is one thing, and

1369
01:20:57,359 --> 01:21:00,089
you have to redo all this report
he's in for example, even when

1370
01:21:00,089 --> 01:21:03,449
we make a money transfer, if
it's a if you like, wait way too

1371
01:21:03,449 --> 01:21:05,879
long, and it gets over a certain
amount day, it gets reported to

1372
01:21:05,879 --> 01:21:09,569
the IRS. Everything you do in a
banking environment gets

1373
01:21:09,569 --> 01:21:14,939
reported real estate, no, no
holds barred, there is nothing

1374
01:21:14,969 --> 01:21:17,669
and then you can take it some
back and walk in your office if

1375
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:20,639
you're a real estate agent with
cash with cash with a million

1376
01:21:20,639 --> 01:21:25,649
dollars in cash. And you just
put it into the your account is

1377
01:21:25,649 --> 01:21:28,079
a transaction. And

1378
01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:31,560
that's how commerce used to work
it was and it's okay, now I

1379
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,620
don't care where you get your
money from podcast, no

1380
01:21:34,650 --> 01:21:36,810
international drug trade. What's
the difference?

1381
01:21:37,740 --> 01:21:40,680
I would think that there's a lot
of opportunities all over the

1382
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,380
place, but apparently real
estate is the real winner.

1383
01:21:43,559 --> 01:21:47,579
And can you imagine that? Just
to add insult to injury? These

1384
01:21:47,579 --> 01:21:50,879
guys also have to lend to people
like Trump and B that must

1385
01:21:50,879 --> 01:21:57,209
really gall them. Like he's
doing this with their money. No

1386
01:21:57,209 --> 01:22:00,929
wonder they want to screw him so
badly. Yeah, that makes nothing

1387
01:22:00,929 --> 01:22:05,729
but sense to me. I love I love
looking at Trump through that

1388
01:22:05,729 --> 01:22:09,419
lens. It's a very comfortable
feeling feels good money

1389
01:22:09,419 --> 01:22:09,959
launderer,

1390
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,230
but and that's the whole reason
for doing these big deals. I

1391
01:22:13,230 --> 01:22:15,930
mean, he obviously got a clue he
worked with some people that

1392
01:22:15,930 --> 01:22:20,550
knew it. I knew when he did
Trump Tower as a young kid and

1393
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:23,460
he just come in with EEG ever
this is gonna cost more than you

1394
01:22:23,460 --> 01:22:23,820
should be

1395
01:22:23,849 --> 01:22:26,759
paying this is how you keep
everyone on your side all the

1396
01:22:26,759 --> 01:22:27,539
mobsters

1397
01:22:28,260 --> 01:22:32,760
Yeah, I would say that he's
definitely has in fact, if you

1398
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,100
saw I don't have a clip of an
eye where I was looking for I

1399
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,790
could never find a good clip of
it. Lanny Davis coming out and

1400
01:22:38,820 --> 01:22:41,400
condemning CNN for misquoting
him

1401
01:22:41,430 --> 01:22:45,630
I have I have Yes. I have Lanny
Davis play that

1402
01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:48,750
clip after the donation segment
because I want to comment on

1403
01:22:48,750 --> 01:22:48,960
that.

1404
01:22:48,990 --> 01:22:53,160
Oh, this has have to do with
Chuck Todd's article No. Oh that

1405
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,430
I can bring that into Yeah, no,
I haven't made my comments

1406
01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:58,560
different let's get this get
these guys this thank these

1407
01:22:58,860 --> 01:23:01,320
are some important Yes, let's do
something important.

1408
01:23:01,650 --> 01:23:09,450
Producers for showed 1066.
Wasn't 1066 The Norman invasion

1409
01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:16,680
we could have made that an
issue. It's okay. Anyway. We

1410
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,500
have no Associate Executive
producers but we have four

1411
01:23:19,530 --> 01:23:24,930
generous executive producers.
Brian Gerard in Bellevue,

1412
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,340
Washington. Thank you for your
courage. My recent donation is

1413
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:31,650
long overdue. The instant night
option has seemed the most

1414
01:23:31,650 --> 01:23:34,770
appropriate for the unwinding of
the Gordian knot that is the M

1415
01:23:34,770 --> 01:23:41,370
5am. I would like to be knighted
sir skull and scrote the lions

1416
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:42,600
Solon scrote

1417
01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:47,550
SK R O T gun and scrote what is
scrote? Dare I ask you know what

1418
01:23:47,550 --> 01:23:49,980
I don't want to ask I don't want
to know New Jersey

1419
01:23:49,980 --> 01:23:53,550
karma New Jersey Anna karma for
no jingles in the karma for all.

1420
01:23:57,060 --> 01:23:58,740
You've got karma.

1421
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,120
So that was $1,000 Instant
donation. I love to see

1422
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,780
that. Yeah, a long time since we
had an instant night. Yeah, it

1423
01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:07,380
is actually

1424
01:24:07,380 --> 01:24:09,930
it's been a long time. We need
more. And then we have a maybe

1425
01:24:10,290 --> 01:24:14,220
like a mix up to me. But Jack
Swoboda would be next and from

1426
01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:18,690
Cupertino, California was 666.
And he actually did send an

1427
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:22,650
email which I believe I have.
Yes,

1428
01:24:22,650 --> 01:24:26,880
that's the mark of the beast.
Speaking of the beast, the beast

1429
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,710
shows up when you least expect
it

1430
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:32,880
comes in as John's Hello and
greetings from a no agenda night

1431
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,720
Sunday show was spectacular as
always in the pre stream for

1432
01:24:36,750 --> 01:24:38,070
unexpected fruit.

1433
01:24:39,690 --> 01:24:44,520
really unexpected fruit and
usually it's just Linux advice.

1434
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:49,110
If you check the Pay Pal
donation, you'll find a 333

1435
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:53,190
donation that I'd like to credit
to Nick to simultaneously lift

1436
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:57,390
his douchebag status and began
his journey to end a knighthood.

1437
01:24:57,870 --> 01:25:00,720
As always for the fantastic
deacons direction and Maxine

1438
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:07,710
Waters say stay woke. This may
be a $333 donation attach a note

1439
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:08,610
interesting.

1440
01:25:08,850 --> 01:25:10,560
Why may okay well

1441
01:25:10,559 --> 01:25:12,749
that's why I might be able to
sequence I think something in

1442
01:25:12,749 --> 01:25:16,199
this spreadsheet doubled it for
some reason. Because it

1443
01:25:16,199 --> 01:25:16,979
shouldn't be we're

1444
01:25:16,980 --> 01:25:25,200
on to something doubled it from
333 to 666 I think we should be

1445
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:25,980
worried

1446
01:25:28,620 --> 01:25:32,460
Yeah, I think so too. Anyway, so
we'll give him we'll do we'll

1447
01:25:32,460 --> 01:25:39,120
assume is 333 Because that's
what he says here. And does he

1448
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,630
ask for a jingle or anything?
Oh, he has a mixed by his friend

1449
01:25:42,630 --> 01:25:46,530
Nick. Current douchebag created
this afternoon after enjoying

1450
01:25:46,530 --> 01:25:50,310
it. Maybe we will do listen to
this mix. And then if you send a

1451
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:54,090
mix, I don't have a mix. I have
a mix. No agenda does that for

1452
01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:54,540
rant.

1453
01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:58,650
Oh, no, that's not a mix. What
is it? Oh, that's

1454
01:25:59,970 --> 01:26:05,970
that's that's what that's this
one. Here we go. Oh, my God.

1455
01:26:09,810 --> 01:26:12,930
That one? I just received that
one today.

1456
01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:15,210
Is that from him from from from
him?

1457
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,450
I don't know. I don't remember.
There was no long donation note

1458
01:26:18,450 --> 01:26:19,050
for sure.

1459
01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:23,340
Okay, well here I'm gonna play
real quick to myself.

1460
01:26:23,670 --> 01:26:25,590
You got to hold it up to the
microphone.

1461
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:27,900
I did not get it. You're not
gonna hear it anyway.

1462
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,610
No. Why are you doing that? No,

1463
01:26:29,610 --> 01:26:33,180
it's something different. It's
not It's nothing like that. It's

1464
01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:34,290
it's a song.

1465
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:37,590
What's the guy? What's the guy's
name? Sloboda?

1466
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:42,510
Yes, wo Bo d a and you are on
the mailing

1467
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:51,480
list Oh, there it is. I
apologize. Okay. Can I download

1468
01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:56,310
the where's the where's the
where's the file should be at

1469
01:26:56,310 --> 01:27:01,860
the bottom outlook is not
cooperating

1470
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:08,550
i don't know i do not have It's
very odd John but I do not have

1471
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:10,530
a authority to even deal with it

1472
01:27:10,530 --> 01:27:17,520
later. Oh, okay. Got it. He's
sorry I really don't have the

1473
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,930
file it's real you what what
what outlook Yeah,

1474
01:27:22,140 --> 01:27:25,740
I use Outlook you know that leap
moly. Yeah, I've tricked it out

1475
01:27:25,740 --> 01:27:29,130
to now where did this thing just
go? I just put it in here. Yeah,

1476
01:27:29,130 --> 01:27:32,220
that looks fabulous. No, it's
not it's crappy. Where did it

1477
01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:35,010
go? Oh, donations. Okay, when
did the donation segment? Oh,

1478
01:27:35,010 --> 01:27:40,020
here we go. We finally have it.
Okay,

1479
01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:43,590
brother, it's kind of long as
he's

1480
01:27:44,250 --> 01:27:47,460
okay. And to show got it. It'll
be in the end of show.

1481
01:27:50,010 --> 01:27:51,000
Glad we did that.

1482
01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:55,560
Okay, onward was Scott
Richardson. Happy 54th Birthday

1483
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:00,240
Adam curry comes in with $379.30
it gives you a happy birthday

1484
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,540
call a happy 25th to another
atom. It should be on the melee

1485
01:28:03,570 --> 01:28:06,840
on the list I'm not sure happy
25th to another atom my brother

1486
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,730
Adam Richardson and then please
call out my friend Foreman as a

1487
01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:17,760
douchebag again and then give
him some dogs are people to

1488
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,210
karma dogs

1489
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:27,210
you've got karma

1490
01:28:29,190 --> 01:28:32,370
sir Kretser Chris Wilson did a
happy birthday song for me but

1491
01:28:32,370 --> 01:28:33,390
I'll play that in the show.

1492
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:38,250
Okay, good. All right now we
have last or last guys Mr.

1493
01:28:38,250 --> 01:28:42,600
Daniel Miller who came in at 333
dot 33 he actually sent it into

1494
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,630
this very short note with a
buddy had the sealing wax on it

1495
01:28:47,070 --> 01:28:49,830
I love I love when I get
something with the sealing wax

1496
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:50,760
on it it's yeah it

1497
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,730
was so close to everyone's
gathered around the table as I

1498
01:28:53,730 --> 01:28:57,870
was opening mail is look love
feeling wax. I popped it on.

1499
01:28:57,929 --> 01:29:01,349
Oh, I got one I couldn't pop it
open that easily rip the paper a

1500
01:29:01,349 --> 01:29:03,749
little bit and stuck to the note
on the inside.

1501
01:29:04,469 --> 01:29:07,259
This value for value is long
overdue. Your analysis and

1502
01:29:07,259 --> 01:29:10,829
delivery are truly outstanding
and unmatched. And then he has

1503
01:29:10,829 --> 01:29:18,029
it in emphasized boldface type
in all the land no agenda has

1504
01:29:18,029 --> 01:29:21,449
helped my critical thinking and
as undoubtedly had a positive

1505
01:29:21,449 --> 01:29:24,719
impact on my career in general
well being I know that many

1506
01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:28,649
other producers feel the same
way. I humbly request some jobs

1507
01:29:28,649 --> 01:29:32,999
coming from my smokin hot wife
and all producers Amen fist bump

1508
01:29:33,059 --> 01:29:38,069
now before you play the thing
he's actually up to enough to

1509
01:29:38,099 --> 01:29:42,839
grab a knighthood no no he's a
nice he's got this thing works.

1510
01:29:42,869 --> 01:29:48,719
I'm sorry. Bear in net. And he I
think he didn't request barren

1511
01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:51,479
net upgrading. He may be just
waiting because he's very short.

1512
01:29:51,959 --> 01:29:55,379
I mean, he's very just very
close. I'm sorry, close to

1513
01:29:55,379 --> 01:29:58,709
barren, so maybe he's just
waiting. I just want to mention

1514
01:29:58,709 --> 01:30:00,809
to him because he's gonna listen
to She could have been

1515
01:30:00,930 --> 01:30:05,520
upgrade. Now I know what you're
doing, you know, for just $5

1516
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:14,010
more, you could have the nicer
model. Wow, shameless. You know,

1517
01:30:14,010 --> 01:30:18,480
people, you know, hey, it was
really driven by the producers

1518
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:21,480
who wanted these titles beyond
knighthood, and I'm very proud

1519
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:24,270
of our system. And I'm proud
that other people use that it's

1520
01:30:24,270 --> 01:30:27,600
the value for value model. And
its true royalty, these credits

1521
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,320
are real. And there's nothing
that says, There's no magical

1522
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,250
wall that makes these two media
professionals less valuable than

1523
01:30:35,250 --> 01:30:38,130
someone else being an executive
or Associate Executive Producer.

1524
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,310
In fact, once you've been one,
you can automatically pass that

1525
01:30:41,310 --> 01:30:44,700
title on. Is that not true? Yes.
If you've been an executive

1526
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:47,430
producer than any production
you're involved in, you can hand

1527
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:48,210
out titles.

1528
01:30:49,290 --> 01:30:53,460
You could if you wanted, nobody
does it. We do. Yes. Yeah.

1529
01:30:53,519 --> 01:30:56,639
There you go. So thank you very
much to our executive and

1530
01:30:56,639 --> 01:30:59,069
Associate Executive producers.
We will thank everybody who came

1531
01:30:59,069 --> 01:31:02,639
in over $50 In our second
segment, and we have a special

1532
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:08,639
show coming up on Sunday, as I
will be. Tomorrow morning. The

1533
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:12,029
keeper and I we go to Italy, my
sister's 25th wedding

1534
01:31:12,029 --> 01:31:14,339
anniversary, which is Saturday
night we arrived Saturday

1535
01:31:14,339 --> 01:31:16,529
morning, Saturday night, so
there's just no way I'm gonna be

1536
01:31:16,529 --> 01:31:20,849
able to do that any type of good
show, and quite honestly, think

1537
01:31:20,849 --> 01:31:25,139
we deserve one show off. But
John didn't take off. He

1538
01:31:25,139 --> 01:31:29,459
actually added to his workload.
Yeah. Which he got for us on

1539
01:31:29,459 --> 01:31:33,329
Sunday. And I do have a teaser.
Oh, well, let me let me finish

1540
01:31:33,329 --> 01:31:35,669
the segment first, let me just
get out of everything. But I

1541
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:36,419
thought you were just going to

1542
01:31:36,540 --> 01:31:39,600
tease it through your queue and
me right to just

1543
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,750
you right, I messed it up. Let
me thank everybody and get out

1544
01:31:42,750 --> 01:31:46,710
and then we'll then we'll tease
that so you do want to remember

1545
01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:52,800
us at devorah.org/n A we got all
kinds of nuggets for you today

1546
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,110
in our formula, including
opponents

1547
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,940
our formula is this we go out
for yet people in the mouth

1548
01:32:14,850 --> 01:32:21,660
so Sunday, Sunday is Sunday,
Sunday special show, no rehash,

1549
01:32:21,810 --> 01:32:28,380
no remix, no retake. No flash
bidet NO. brand new and fresh,

1550
01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:28,920
fresh.

1551
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,220
We do have some mixes once well,
but this will be two interviews

1552
01:32:32,850 --> 01:32:37,470
that I've done one with Dane
Jasper, this CO Sonic dotnet

1553
01:32:37,530 --> 01:32:41,460
talking about Gigabit Ethernet.
Now why will this be interesting

1554
01:32:41,460 --> 01:32:44,610
to everybody? Because we have a
lot of dudes named Ben and we

1555
01:32:44,610 --> 01:32:47,790
want to hear from a guy who's
who's actually stringing his own

1556
01:32:47,790 --> 01:32:51,750
wires outside of the 18 T
infrastructure. And we're going

1557
01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:53,070
to talk about gigabit why he's

1558
01:32:53,070 --> 01:32:57,300
an independent guy. He's like us
he's a part separate independent

1559
01:32:57,300 --> 01:32:58,320
of the mainstream.

1560
01:32:58,770 --> 01:32:59,910
Yeah, nice.

1561
01:33:00,330 --> 01:33:02,640
So there's a like wires down
from my house that they these

1562
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,130
guys came by these trucks and
say Sonic dotnet and they're

1563
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:10,020
stringing wires. Not wires, but
cable but fiber. So it's fiber

1564
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:15,060
to the home. FTA fiber to the
curb. FTTH Yeah, yeah,

1565
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,480
ft. Nice. Okay, so that's a dude
named Ben. Yeah, God, I'm very

1566
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:19,230
interested in that.

1567
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:24,510
FTTH let's get that ref tch. Now
on the other one, I have an

1568
01:33:24,510 --> 01:33:31,440
exclusive interview with Scott
Adams. And Scott, wow. 25 years

1569
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,930
it made it a little easier to do
this interview now.

1570
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,990
Because you could you can we cut
the cord the questions you have

1571
01:33:36,990 --> 01:33:39,270
for Dane into Scott's answers.

1572
01:33:40,530 --> 01:33:42,930
Don't have time for this this
afternoon is produced by

1573
01:33:42,930 --> 01:33:48,270
tonight. Oh, okay. So I could it
would be funny, but it wouldn't

1574
01:33:48,270 --> 01:33:51,510
be that funny. But I do have a
teaser. Destroy the kindness

1575
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:53,940
that we'll be talking about with
Scott. Excellent.

1576
01:33:53,970 --> 01:33:56,880
Now you've known him for 25
years. I don't think people know

1577
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:57,210
that.

1578
01:33:57,780 --> 01:34:01,110
Yeah, yeah. Why not? I've been
over to his house and I haven't

1579
01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:02,880
seen him for at least it

1580
01:34:02,969 --> 01:34:05,459
Why do you always talk some shit
behind his back? I don't

1581
01:34:05,459 --> 01:34:05,969
understand.

1582
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:14,670
He he's, yeah, I'm very Yeah,
we're actually I if I saw more,

1583
01:34:14,670 --> 01:34:21,150
we'd be pretty good friends.
Like that. Nice. But he, here's

1584
01:34:21,150 --> 01:34:24,480
an here's an example. I asked
him a question I said, because,

1585
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,360
of course he hates the word
Trump apologist. We talked about

1586
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:31,320
that a little bit in the show.
Cuz he's not he doesn't vote. He

1587
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,110
talks about this right. I'm not
a member of a party. He doesn't

1588
01:34:34,110 --> 01:34:36,720
care. He just likes to analyze
things. He just wants

1589
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:42,000
to weed to be legalized. Oh, it
is? Well in California. Yes. It

1590
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,170
is. is legalized. Yeah.

1591
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,320
And he, I asked him a question.
I said this at this position

1592
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,590
you've taken which is to you
know, talk about Trump as a

1593
01:34:52,590 --> 01:34:56,970
great persuader or and he's
smarter than everybody else. Has

1594
01:34:56,970 --> 01:35:01,770
this hurt. Has this hurt your
income? I'm or anything at all

1595
01:35:01,890 --> 01:35:04,830
whatsoever because this is a
question I felt I needed to ask

1596
01:35:04,830 --> 01:35:05,430
the question.

1597
01:35:05,460 --> 01:35:09,690
It's, I'm sorry for interrupting
your setup. This is the

1598
01:35:09,690 --> 01:35:12,540
definition of a great question.
This is the question that

1599
01:35:12,540 --> 01:35:15,330
everybody should be asking him
wherever he goes. They never

1600
01:35:15,330 --> 01:35:16,230
asked him this

1601
01:35:16,410 --> 01:35:18,750
ever. Oh sure, right yeah.

1602
01:35:19,350 --> 01:35:23,250
Sorry. No, go ahead. Sorry. Nice
you stepped on you. I will say

1603
01:35:23,250 --> 01:35:26,160
that I got out of him at least
three things that I've never

1604
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,920
heard in fact I thought to have
me never want to eat almost

1605
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,690
decide never to talk about but I
got it.

1606
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,750
You don't you don't want to mess
with this with Devorah he's a

1607
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:36,870
real juice. Juice squeezer I'll
tell you

1608
01:35:37,050 --> 01:35:38,460
to squeezer. Okay, here we go.

1609
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:44,520
Oh, sure. Yeah, probably 40% of
my income has operated and 25%

1610
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:50,190
of my social circle. Yeah, I'm
quite an outcast. And my, and I

1611
01:35:50,190 --> 01:35:52,470
don't do public speaking
anymore, because it's too

1612
01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:57,060
dangerous. You know, I wouldn't
feel comfortable. If there was

1613
01:35:57,060 --> 01:36:00,000
any publicity and you put me in
front of a big crowd right now,

1614
01:36:00,030 --> 01:36:03,450
because it only takes one person
to say that guy said something

1615
01:36:03,450 --> 01:36:07,380
good about the President's
persuasion skills. He must die.

1616
01:36:07,950 --> 01:36:13,290
So I don't think it's safe to be
in public. When people like you

1617
01:36:13,290 --> 01:36:15,210
are branding me a Trump
apologist.

1618
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:20,550
People like you did you brand
him? That's fine. That's very

1619
01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:20,970
funny.

1620
01:36:21,450 --> 01:36:24,870
Wow. He says he's lost 40% 40%

1621
01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:27,150
of his income. That's that's
Dilbert.

1622
01:36:28,020 --> 01:36:31,050
Yeah. And 75% of his social
circle, which

1623
01:36:31,860 --> 01:36:36,840
I say California say easy.
That's when it's not a loss. God

1624
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:41,250
sometimes when I would think
when Tina and I'm like, Hey,

1625
01:36:41,250 --> 01:36:44,610
know what's really great. We
live with our best friends. Our

1626
01:36:44,610 --> 01:36:51,090
only friend because we're, we're
best friends and we got some

1627
01:36:51,090 --> 01:36:53,790
kids. That's just hanging out
the gun range of meet more

1628
01:36:53,790 --> 01:36:56,610
friends. Oh, yeah. And I got
tons of friends that reds

1629
01:36:56,730 --> 01:36:57,480
breads.

1630
01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:00,990
No. So that's the kind of
interview is nice.

1631
01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:04,440
No, I can't I'm very excited
about that. Both very excited.

1632
01:37:04,440 --> 01:37:05,490
Very good. Very good.

1633
01:37:06,420 --> 01:37:12,060
Excellent. Enjoyed it. That is
very nice. Okay, all right. Oh,

1634
01:37:12,060 --> 01:37:15,660
you know, we couldn't do this
here. Let me see. I think what

1635
01:37:15,660 --> 01:37:17,700
we probably should do, yes.

1636
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:22,320
And now it's time for your
sexual harassment update.

1637
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,470
It's been a while since we've
had a full on sexual harassment

1638
01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:28,800
updates. But there are some
moves, things are happening and

1639
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,970
things are going on, and we're
on top of it. And we start with

1640
01:37:32,970 --> 01:37:38,160
a very contrasting report from
the CBC in Canada Navia where

1641
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:42,990
they're not paying attention to,
in particular NBC and CBS the

1642
01:37:42,990 --> 01:37:47,460
way we do here at the south of
their border. But they have some

1643
01:37:47,460 --> 01:37:50,370
interesting observations which
have only marginally been

1644
01:37:50,370 --> 01:37:51,120
discussed here.

1645
01:37:51,150 --> 01:37:55,590
their resignations were public
the backlash swift but Candyman

1646
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:59,880
disgraced in the me to movement
returned to the spotlight. Well,

1647
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:03,720
this week we saw some of the
first steps towards comebacks.

1648
01:38:03,900 --> 01:38:07,080
Comedian Louie CK returned to
the stage for the first time

1649
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,980
since he was accused of
masturbating in front of female

1650
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:15,810
dogs. Page six reported that
fired today show host Matt Lauer

1651
01:38:15,810 --> 01:38:19,590
recently told fans quote, I've
been busy being a dad, but don't

1652
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:23,790
worry, I'll be back on TV. And
for some time, it's been rumored

1653
01:38:23,790 --> 01:38:27,690
that former CBS This Morning
host Charlie rose is looking to

1654
01:38:27,690 --> 01:38:31,170
host a new show where he
interviews men brought down by

1655
01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:31,800
the movement.

1656
01:38:33,630 --> 01:38:39,300
Charlie Rose is a genius. He's a
genius. How am I ever gonna get

1657
01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:44,970
back? Hold on, let me open my
bathroom for a second. How am I

1658
01:38:44,970 --> 01:38:52,950
ever gonna get back? Ah, I have
an idea. I'll do a show about my

1659
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:56,040
colleagues. Tell me about this
sexuality. It's

1660
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:57,120
in your DNA.

1661
01:38:58,230 --> 01:39:02,760
Here bind my bathrobe. So I
thought that was pretty

1662
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,980
interesting. Especially the
Charlie news. I didn't realize

1663
01:39:04,980 --> 01:39:08,490
that and it'll get on the air.
It'll happen. It'll totally

1664
01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:12,060
happen. Matt Lauer Matt Lauer
Well, it's too early now but

1665
01:39:12,060 --> 01:39:15,600
he'll come back is America we
love the comeback kid. As long

1666
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:20,520
as you eat enough shit. You're
not Cosby. Ah, you know what if

1667
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,040
you played his cards differently
could probably come back to but

1668
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,010
he's Yeah, but he didn't. He
played his very wrong very

1669
01:39:26,010 --> 01:39:29,400
wrong. Yeah. Because America we
have we will just forgive you

1670
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:30,630
brother. Don't worry about it.

1671
01:39:31,650 --> 01:39:34,590
And I think Louis C K. K already
has an excuse for that

1672
01:39:34,590 --> 01:39:39,540
masturbation stuff. If he had
said, you know, because it was

1673
01:39:39,570 --> 01:39:44,760
female comics. Yeah. He was
masturbating. masturbating in

1674
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,610
front of a female comic. And if
they see what he should have

1675
01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:51,900
said was all I was read read.
All I was doing there was

1676
01:39:51,900 --> 01:39:53,490
reviewing their set.

1677
01:39:57,900 --> 01:40:01,200
Okay, all right. I'm sorry.
Ross, he hasn't hired you yet as

1678
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:06,690
his attorney. Big moves over at
CBS This was breaking news this

1679
01:40:06,690 --> 01:40:07,530
morning. We do have a

1680
01:40:07,530 --> 01:40:10,320
story that we should be sharing
with people of course involving

1681
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:13,560
CBS, a company that of course,
there's been no shortage of

1682
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,540
reporting on lately. Well, we
can tell you this morning

1683
01:40:15,540 --> 01:40:19,110
though, is that the Board of
Directors of CBS is deep in

1684
01:40:19,110 --> 01:40:22,320
settlement talks with the
company CEO Leslie Moonves that

1685
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,650
would result in his exit from a
company, of course, that he has

1686
01:40:25,650 --> 01:40:29,670
led for a very long time. It
would also mean the appointment

1687
01:40:29,670 --> 01:40:35,400
of Joe Anello, the current CEO
of CVS as its interim CEO. This

1688
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,740
according to people who are
close to the negotiations

1689
01:40:37,740 --> 01:40:41,220
between Moonves and his board.
Now the talks between Moonves

1690
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:43,920
and the board they've been going
on for some time. And they have

1691
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,340
yet to reach a conclusion given
what appears to be a continued

1692
01:40:47,340 --> 01:40:51,840
back and forth, about Moonves
his exit package, while under

1693
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:57,000
his contract, he's do as much as
$180 million in severance and

1694
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,390
the production deal. Sources
tell me the board right now

1695
01:41:00,390 --> 01:41:04,740
offering a package that would be
roughly $100 million, made up

1696
01:41:04,770 --> 01:41:08,520
almost entirely, though not
completely of CVS stock, rest of

1697
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,970
it being cash. But it also wants
the right to claw back some of

1698
01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:14,910
that compensation if at the
conclusion of an ongoing

1699
01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:18,630
investigation into charges of
sexual harassment. Moonves has

1700
01:41:18,630 --> 01:41:22,170
been found to have committed
other inappropriate acts.

1701
01:41:24,150 --> 01:41:28,470
Yep, I liked the clawback
provision. That's a really good

1702
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:32,940
one. Because if he fights that,
ah, yeah, hide something. You

1703
01:41:32,940 --> 01:41:35,460
don't want the club back, do
you? And we know you're never

1704
01:41:35,490 --> 01:41:36,270
read past it?

1705
01:41:36,929 --> 01:41:39,749
Well, the club x these guys like
to do that. Because it's this

1706
01:41:39,749 --> 01:41:43,529
these numbers are outrageous.
They got a lot of money thing.

1707
01:41:43,529 --> 01:41:47,279
You gotta pull some of that
back. I mean, this is this.

1708
01:41:47,609 --> 01:41:50,669
There's something going on here
with Moonves. And I think it's

1709
01:41:50,969 --> 01:41:55,499
the only who does it. Tell us to
me that well, hold on a second.

1710
01:41:56,009 --> 01:41:59,729
It seems to me that once Lauer
went down, the next thing you

1711
01:41:59,729 --> 01:42:03,419
know, you have to you have these
three networks. Lauer goes down,

1712
01:42:03,419 --> 01:42:08,189
and that damages NBC. And who's
behind it? We don't know. But

1713
01:42:08,219 --> 01:42:11,339
the decision is made by
somebody, either the same people

1714
01:42:11,339 --> 01:42:16,289
that took down Lauer or NBCs
people to take down, Moonves

1715
01:42:16,559 --> 01:42:20,039
CBS, because that's hugely
damaging, because Moonves is one

1716
01:42:20,039 --> 01:42:22,799
of those guys who may or may not
be a jerk, but he's one of those

1717
01:42:22,799 --> 01:42:26,759
guys. And actually, in the Scott
Adams, clip or interview, you're

1718
01:42:26,759 --> 01:42:28,559
going to hear a little
discussion of this sort of

1719
01:42:28,559 --> 01:42:31,769
thing. Where is it? A character
is so important to the company.

1720
01:42:31,769 --> 01:42:35,189
He's the guy who, at some point
or US is no let's not do that.

1721
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:38,039
Let's do this. Right. And those
guys are the, you know, they

1722
01:42:38,039 --> 01:42:40,559
look like denigrate major
players until after they're

1723
01:42:40,559 --> 01:42:44,999
gone. Then ABC gets dinged by
getting Lasseter, Kim. Yeah,

1724
01:42:45,029 --> 01:42:46,799
yep. Same kind of guy.

1725
01:42:46,830 --> 01:42:50,880
Well here so I came up with kind
of a simple explanation follow

1726
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,550
this because of The Daily Beast
has also been teasing. They've

1727
01:42:53,550 --> 01:42:59,010
got a huge expos a on Weinstein,
his relationship with Andy lack

1728
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:03,780
the president over there at NBC
News, I guess. You know, the

1729
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:09,900
Tucker Carlson is all over this.
He's dragging in. Chuck Todd,

1730
01:43:10,110 --> 01:43:12,630
that he must have known about
it. They're all covering, you

1731
01:43:12,630 --> 01:43:16,620
know, there's a lot of stuff
going on about why they didn't

1732
01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:20,310
report on it, why they turned
Ronan Farrow away. And I think,

1733
01:43:20,460 --> 01:43:24,510
just from a simple perspective,
and this is based on other

1734
01:43:24,510 --> 01:43:27,480
people I've spoken to about
Harvey Weinstein who know him

1735
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,930
that and I'll go back to I'll go
back to what botanic said he's

1736
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:34,800
just an ugly Jewboy. Who and
this, I'm quoting him, he's

1737
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,410
Chantix a Jew. So I get he gets
to say that, but that's what he

1738
01:43:37,410 --> 01:43:39,960
says he's just an ugly Jewboy
who figured out that you could

1739
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:45,000
get laid and the women would
gladly screw him to get jobs.

1740
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:49,350
And that this network of of guys
at the top had been doing this

1741
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:53,070
for decades. This is the casting
couch. I think that's what's

1742
01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:58,800
going on. And you now see, Asia
Argento. She's read, she's now

1743
01:43:58,830 --> 01:44:02,580
flipped the whole story about
her having paid off the 17 year

1744
01:44:02,580 --> 01:44:05,940
old Act. Now she says, you know,
she was sexually attacked by

1745
01:44:05,940 --> 01:44:09,660
him. It's it's all coming off
the rails. And I think totally

1746
01:44:09,690 --> 01:44:14,790
and I think sadly, sadly, what
has happened here is, you know,

1747
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:19,950
through simple Pavlovian
response mechanisms, these men

1748
01:44:19,950 --> 01:44:22,380
who have been at the top of
their game think Trump is the

1749
01:44:22,380 --> 01:44:25,710
same way Come on, this is the
grabber by the pussy crowd. It's

1750
01:44:25,710 --> 01:44:31,170
not just Trump. Power is
attractive. You could be ugly.

1751
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,770
The president can look pretty
ugly at times. I'm sure he's not

1752
01:44:34,770 --> 01:44:37,650
pretty naked. Look what he's
getting. It's not just money,

1753
01:44:37,650 --> 01:44:41,220
it's power. And it's attractive
and people fall for that. And I

1754
01:44:41,220 --> 01:44:45,060
think sadly, what we've seen
here is a lot of accusations and

1755
01:44:45,060 --> 01:44:49,500
Weinstein may get off. He may
actually get off scot free cuz I

1756
01:44:49,500 --> 01:44:50,190
think he's gonna get

1757
01:44:50,220 --> 01:44:52,920
gotten off before I die. Yes, I
was waiting for that.

1758
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:57,690
So maybe they pick the wrong
targets. But instead of saying

1759
01:44:57,690 --> 01:45:00,930
hey, this is war between the
networks, which It could be in a

1760
01:45:00,930 --> 01:45:03,900
way he's going down, screw it.
I'm taking him down before I go

1761
01:45:03,900 --> 01:45:07,980
down. I think they're all in a
John. And if they unravel that,

1762
01:45:07,980 --> 01:45:11,160
and they get anywhere deeper
within ABC, they made vine some

1763
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:15,030
very, very ugly stuff. That's
why I'm encouraged about this.

1764
01:45:18,150 --> 01:45:19,860
I'm encouraged. Hilarious.

1765
01:45:20,940 --> 01:45:26,400
Yeah, exactly. So and there's a
beautiful silver lining to this

1766
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:32,250
from Megyn Kelly, who made the
step from Fox to NBC seen of

1767
01:45:32,250 --> 01:45:35,490
course as traitorous because she
went over to the, to the lefty

1768
01:45:35,490 --> 01:45:39,630
crazy to crazy side, and she has
not found her footing.

1769
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:43,290
Miraculously, they have not
fired her. She's got the stupid

1770
01:45:43,290 --> 01:45:47,040
daytime show, which was not been
working, no traction. And all of

1771
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,880
a sudden, the genius of either
make, I think it's her. And I'm

1772
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,780
very, very, very proud. She did
this. She's decided to take on

1773
01:45:54,780 --> 01:45:58,590
her own network, to a degree of
course, but I do have a clip of

1774
01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:00,210
her discussing this on her show.

1775
01:46:00,269 --> 01:46:03,869
As you heard in that report, NBC
News says now that quote, there

1776
01:46:03,869 --> 01:46:07,679
was not a single victim of or
witness to misconduct by

1777
01:46:07,679 --> 01:46:10,829
Weinstein, who was willing to be
identified. Moreover, they say

1778
01:46:10,829 --> 01:46:14,279
Rose McGowan had refused to name
Weinstein and then her lawyer

1779
01:46:14,279 --> 01:46:19,079
sent a cease and desist letter
in August 2017. Late last night,

1780
01:46:19,109 --> 01:46:24,479
Rose McGowan and rich McHugh
that former NBC producer both

1781
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:28,499
challenged that assertion
telling Megyn Kelly today, that

1782
01:46:28,499 --> 01:46:32,969
McGowan did go on the record
with NBC and February 2017.

1783
01:46:33,359 --> 01:46:36,869
After that on camera interview
with Pharaoh, and that she did

1784
01:46:36,869 --> 01:46:41,279
name Harvey Weinstein as her
rapist. Both McGowan and rich

1785
01:46:41,279 --> 01:46:45,299
McHugh say NBC had this on the
record off camera assertion from

1786
01:46:45,299 --> 01:46:49,889
McGowan for eight months, long
before her letter sent a cease

1787
01:46:49,889 --> 01:46:53,729
and desist letter, which McHugh
says was communicated to NBC

1788
01:46:53,729 --> 01:46:56,909
executives. In a statement to
Megan Kelly today this morning,

1789
01:46:56,939 --> 01:47:00,509
NBC News responded as follows
quote, as the interview

1790
01:47:00,509 --> 01:47:03,779
transcript clearly clearly
indicates McGowan did not name

1791
01:47:03,779 --> 01:47:07,139
Weinstein as her attacker on
camera in February in the

1792
01:47:07,139 --> 01:47:10,499
February 2017 interview, the
first time Ronan Farrow

1793
01:47:10,499 --> 01:47:14,609
submitted a draft script on this
story was five months later, on

1794
01:47:14,609 --> 01:47:20,609
July 23 2017. And Pharaoh had
McGowan on the record, but off

1795
01:47:20,609 --> 01:47:23,249
camera before that date and
wanted to proceed with airing

1796
01:47:23,249 --> 01:47:27,239
the story. He did not indicate
that to his editors. Within days

1797
01:47:27,239 --> 01:47:30,479
of that July 23 draft script
being submitted, McGowan

1798
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,449
canceled the follow up on camera
interview and her attorney sent

1799
01:47:33,449 --> 01:47:36,359
NBC a cease and desist letter
revoking all permission to use

1800
01:47:36,359 --> 01:47:41,639
the first interview. It's
there's a lot to unpack. Yeah.

1801
01:47:42,269 --> 01:47:46,919
But what what we're seeing here
is rich moko dynamite,

1802
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:50,400
she's putting a little little
emphasis so hard. This is a

1803
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:55,440
great career move. Megan Kelly,
your genius. Oh, so hard for me

1804
01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:58,470
to do so my own network but I'm
strong. I can do this.

1805
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:00,240
Oh, network.

1806
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,580
I love it. Yes. first interview.

1807
01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:06,690
Just journalistic integrity.
This is what press freedom is

1808
01:48:06,690 --> 01:48:07,170
about.

1809
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:07,890
It's,

1810
01:48:07,980 --> 01:48:12,330
here's the last one fired? No,
they can't fire. This is why

1811
01:48:12,330 --> 01:48:15,300
it's so genius. You're gonna
fire her because she questioned

1812
01:48:15,390 --> 01:48:17,070
your hashtag to

1813
01:48:17,370 --> 01:48:18,480
bide your time.

1814
01:48:19,170 --> 01:48:24,780
But what what we're seeing here
is rich McHugh who just resigned

1815
01:48:24,780 --> 01:48:28,770
from NBC, who was Ronan's
producer on this story has now

1816
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,130
gone public with his accusations
that NBC he claimed blocked the

1817
01:48:32,130 --> 01:48:37,380
story NBC vehemently denying
that and saying they didn't have

1818
01:48:37,380 --> 01:48:40,170
anybody. They didn't have
anybody on the record, who was

1819
01:48:40,170 --> 01:48:44,640
willing to name him. And Rose
McGowan telling us she was on

1820
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,100
the record that she was on the
record for months. And they

1821
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:50,190
didn't use the statement. And
you heard MBCs saying if that's

1822
01:48:50,190 --> 01:48:56,460
true, it wasn't communicated up
the line. And now you have that

1823
01:48:56,490 --> 01:48:59,730
that's a dispute now between NBC
and the reporters on the story,

1824
01:48:59,730 --> 01:49:03,360
but this is getting, it's
getting really in the weeds and

1825
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,470
it's getting really
uncomfortable.

1826
01:49:07,530 --> 01:49:10,980
So it's like, oh, it's almost
like Oh, I was like have Braxton

1827
01:49:10,980 --> 01:49:13,740
Hicks contractions. It's almost
it's like, Ah, it's

1828
01:49:13,740 --> 01:49:16,950
uncomfortable. And I have to
credit you and ready for

1829
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:19,980
discussing it right here. Today.

1830
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:29,790
brilliant career move.
Outstanding, just outstanding.

1831
01:49:31,020 --> 01:49:33,300
You watch her fly. Now this is
gonna be great. She's gonna be

1832
01:49:33,300 --> 01:49:35,970
doing interviews everywhere
about her tough stance against

1833
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,490
her own company. It's so but you
know, this is what journalists

1834
01:49:38,490 --> 01:49:40,980
do. If she plays it, right. I
don't know who's representing

1835
01:49:40,980 --> 01:49:43,800
her. But if she plays it, right,
that's the way to go. And we'll

1836
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:47,280
see. And with all this just to
wrap this up, and make it real

1837
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,920
simple after we heard Twitter,
the Twitter stuff, and we've all

1838
01:49:49,950 --> 01:49:52,800
we all see what's going on in
Twitter. And we hear about this

1839
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,700
hashtag nice to stuff. I am
going to take the veil away from

1840
01:49:56,700 --> 01:50:01,800
your eyes because every human
being being on this earth either

1841
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:06,630
has or will cheat. You will have
infidelity in your life. Those

1842
01:50:06,630 --> 01:50:08,910
who have been through it and it
didn't turn out so well you

1843
01:50:08,910 --> 01:50:12,570
probably won't do it again.
Everybody has horrible thoughts

1844
01:50:12,570 --> 01:50:16,050
about everybody else and given
the chance to do that safely.

1845
01:50:16,170 --> 01:50:17,100
They will say it

1846
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:23,730
were a holes. Happy humanity day
everybody. And this

1847
01:50:23,730 --> 01:50:26,640
concludes your sexual
harassment, update.

1848
01:50:29,490 --> 01:50:31,410
Internship putting the shoulder
down No.

1849
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,700
Well, I can do some up stuff.
Come on. I gave us this bladed

1850
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:37,950
folder again. That brings us
back to normal.

1851
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,230
Oh, yeah. This is our go to

1852
01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:44,460
show level of humor back to
normal.

1853
01:50:44,490 --> 01:50:55,230
Yes, we do need that hold on you
want to do some climate

1854
01:50:55,230 --> 01:50:55,740
stuff?

1855
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,220
Not really. I want to get some
politics out of the way which

1856
01:50:59,250 --> 01:50:59,790
Oh, no,

1857
01:50:59,790 --> 01:51:02,910
not more politics. Wow. Okay.

1858
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:05,610
Climate so what would the
climate is the like, what was

1859
01:51:05,610 --> 01:51:09,060
the latest climate thing that
one of the tennis players lost

1860
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:11,550
the game according to The New
York Times because of climate

1861
01:51:11,550 --> 01:51:13,050
change? You see that?

1862
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:18,060
Because it was hot and she took
her better? Oh, better. No. You

1863
01:51:18,060 --> 01:51:18,360
lost.

1864
01:51:19,110 --> 01:51:23,520
It is the New York Times article
February last that US Open game

1865
01:51:23,550 --> 01:51:26,100
because of climate change Trump.

1866
01:51:26,190 --> 01:51:27,000
I knew Trump

1867
01:51:28,650 --> 01:51:30,360
but they both didn't lose her
die.

1868
01:51:30,389 --> 01:51:33,569
I knew Trump had something to do
with it. Well, hold on. I got to

1869
01:51:33,569 --> 01:51:37,379
climate change things in the
media which is always fun. I do

1870
01:51:37,379 --> 01:51:39,569
not watch the show Elementary.
Do you watch the show

1871
01:51:39,569 --> 01:51:42,689
Elementary? Yes, I do. Well, I'm
surprised you haven't brought

1872
01:51:42,689 --> 01:51:43,979
this clip to the table then.

1873
01:51:44,339 --> 01:51:46,739
There probably was a clip I
remember when recently that was

1874
01:51:46,739 --> 01:51:48,689
gonna pull by never did this is
probably

1875
01:51:48,750 --> 01:51:51,660
this is a FEMA flood man.
kidnappers are making redraw

1876
01:51:51,660 --> 01:51:55,800
flood zones. Kid let the rest of
us and FEMA the federal

1877
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,770
government is in charge of
determining the risk of flooding

1878
01:51:58,770 --> 01:52:00,720
for everywhere in the country

1879
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,170
that can hear Norman Lear
tapping away the keyboard

1880
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,920
and math like this. Break the
flood risks down into zones red

1881
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,400
is the highest risk oranges
second, and so on. They're used

1882
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,790
to plan emergency responses and
to say who needs flood insurance

1883
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:17,640
and how much but with climate
change and rising sea levels,

1884
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,040
FEMA has been redoing all the
old maps,

1885
01:52:21,210 --> 01:52:22,800
redoing all the maps,

1886
01:52:22,830 --> 01:52:25,500
there's a staggering amount of
data that goes into these maps

1887
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:28,200
staggering. And a lot of it
comes down to statistical

1888
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,380
analysis, the likelihood of X
event happening in y number of

1889
01:52:31,380 --> 01:52:36,690
years, oh, peanut p values, it
takes forever. And I heard from

1890
01:52:36,690 --> 01:52:39,030
a colleague recently that the
maps we were working on back

1891
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:41,370
then are just entering the
public review phase now.

1892
01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:45,870
So your maps aren't official
yet. And your captors wanted you

1893
01:52:45,870 --> 01:52:49,650
to change the math that Harlan
was doing in order to make maps

1894
01:52:49,650 --> 01:52:50,160
that different.

1895
01:52:52,590 --> 01:52:55,410
Its total climate gate
storyline.

1896
01:52:55,740 --> 01:52:59,100
Yeah, it kind of was it wasn't
as good as the other elementary

1897
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:03,150
clip if you recall that I played
is not a first time we visited

1898
01:53:03,150 --> 01:53:05,130
the shows somebody's writing the
scripts

1899
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,260
about the patent stealing.

1900
01:53:10,650 --> 01:53:13,290
When the government can find a
good patent and they just steal

1901
01:53:13,290 --> 01:53:15,780
it and you don't get caught.
Yeah, that was just a couple

1902
01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:18,540
shows ago. Yeah, that was
Elementary. Ah,

1903
01:53:18,570 --> 01:53:21,630
okay. Well, you've spurred
people on because I don't watch

1904
01:53:21,630 --> 01:53:22,680
the show was sent to me.

1905
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:30,540
I enjoy these mysteries. I like
to know the structure of a of a

1906
01:53:30,540 --> 01:53:34,590
detective story. And I'm always
trying to see they break it very

1907
01:53:34,590 --> 01:53:38,190
rarely, but most the time they
don't. And then for people who

1908
01:53:38,190 --> 01:53:40,890
like to watch these things, or
want to follow the basic

1909
01:53:40,890 --> 01:53:43,950
theories of these stories,
they're all the same. And

1910
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:47,340
typically, just for your
information when you watch one

1911
01:53:47,340 --> 01:53:51,630
of these just the universe for
your health. The first person

1912
01:53:51,630 --> 01:53:54,120
you see is the killer.

1913
01:53:56,130 --> 01:53:58,350
The first person on screen is
always the killer.

1914
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,260
One that doesn't mean that the
main characters been talking

1915
01:54:01,260 --> 01:54:04,110
about the first person that has
anything to do or they're asking

1916
01:54:04,110 --> 01:54:09,810
about the murder old Bill's
dead. That person did it is the

1917
01:54:09,810 --> 01:54:14,070
guy who always does it now
you've ruined so it's the way it

1918
01:54:14,070 --> 01:54:17,880
is not I'd say 90% of all
murder, Detective Story murder

1919
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,030
mysteries, the first person did
and the rest of the story is all

1920
01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:24,930
misdirection by and the way
elementary does it which I think

1921
01:54:24,930 --> 01:54:28,260
is one of the best models. They
do misdirection and then the

1922
01:54:28,260 --> 01:54:32,940
misdirection itself leads to the
guy who did it who is the first

1923
01:54:32,940 --> 01:54:37,320
person and I find his story very
well structured,

1924
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,440
except it's completely
deconstructed and therefore no

1925
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,300
fun once you know the the form
all

1926
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:45,240
all detective stories are
deconstructed. They're all the

1927
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:45,750
same.

1928
01:54:46,590 --> 01:54:50,610
Well, the CBC uncovered
something quite literally. That

1929
01:54:50,610 --> 01:54:52,980
should be very alarming to all
of us.

1930
01:54:53,010 --> 01:54:56,190
It's been a summer full of
records and extremes just take a

1931
01:54:56,190 --> 01:54:59,670
look at BC the province is now
officially dealing with its

1932
01:54:59,670 --> 01:55:04,080
worst wildfire season on record
in terms of hectares burned. And

1933
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,590
that's meant smoky skies for
much of western Canada. This is

1934
01:55:07,650 --> 01:55:12,270
Calgary skyline, sort of. Let's
not forget Montreal is deadly

1935
01:55:12,270 --> 01:55:16,050
heatwave back in July. But we're
not the only ones feeling the

1936
01:55:16,050 --> 01:55:19,260
effects of extreme temperatures
have a look at Europe for summer

1937
01:55:19,260 --> 01:55:23,070
has felt like a modern day
version of biblical plagues. And

1938
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:26,910
just when you thought biblical
plagues, the warning signs

1939
01:55:26,910 --> 01:55:30,990
couldn't get any worse. Bring in
the hunger stones. Located in

1940
01:55:30,990 --> 01:55:34,500
the Czech Republic along the
elbow River, the rocks were used

1941
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:38,490
to record low water levels. But
starting centuries ago, when

1942
01:55:38,490 --> 01:55:41,190
those water levels got
dangerously low, bad enough to

1943
01:55:41,190 --> 01:55:45,000
result in droughts and terrible
harvests. Past generations wrote

1944
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,090
notes on those rocks, from
warnings to the people of the

1945
01:55:48,090 --> 01:55:52,830
future, like this one, a message
from 1904 saying, if you see me

1946
01:55:52,860 --> 01:55:56,280
weep, at least a dozen of these
hunger stones in the Czech

1947
01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:00,240
Republic and Germany have now
appeared no one knows how many

1948
01:56:00,270 --> 01:56:02,490
there really are. Oh my
goodness,

1949
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,910
John, global warming in 1904.
What was going on back,

1950
01:56:05,940 --> 01:56:08,970
John? All I know is I'm reading
another stone and here's what it

1951
01:56:08,970 --> 01:56:15,480
says you might die. The Hungry?
I'd like The Hunger stones. The

1952
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,060
hunger stones is great. I'd
never heard of this.

1953
01:56:18,150 --> 01:56:22,110
I liked it, I think is a title
for a book. Hunger stones. Yeah,

1954
01:56:22,110 --> 01:56:22,320
but

1955
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,750
a bunch of kids that kill each
other with rocks.

1956
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:27,000
Yeah, that's creative.

1957
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:31,080
The hunger stones. And that is
your climate update. Everybody.

1958
01:56:31,140 --> 01:56:32,130
We're all going to die.

1959
01:56:35,190 --> 01:56:38,250
play this clip because I don't
remember what it is. This is the

1960
01:56:38,250 --> 01:56:43,530
see it says CBS and I must be
CNBC. Looking at fire idiot

1961
01:56:43,530 --> 01:56:44,130
comments.

1962
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,580
So when you look at Bob
Woodward's. Ah.

1963
01:56:47,969 --> 01:56:49,289
Ah. Okay, stop. Yeah,

1964
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:51,180
we should talk about this. This
isn't this. We're gonna

1965
01:56:51,180 --> 01:56:54,750
talk about it. So Bob Woodward's
got a book out called Fire and

1966
01:56:54,750 --> 01:56:59,250
it's his latest thing and I love
this. I

1967
01:56:59,250 --> 01:57:02,430
love the book. I love the Op Ed.
And the whole story is great. So

1968
01:57:02,430 --> 01:57:02,760
some

1969
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,000
phony baloney op ed came out
which is really about the book

1970
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,120
because they've everybody played
it the same way. All it's doing

1971
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,280
is confirming Bob Woodward's
book,

1972
01:57:11,310 --> 01:57:17,160
it's completely it's completely
about the Bible. If you want to

1973
01:57:17,190 --> 01:57:20,610
just run through it's very
short. It's not a long essay.

1974
01:57:21,180 --> 01:57:24,240
But I just made I wrote down
some comments on I even bought,

1975
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,940
well, why bother reading it?
Because if you if you listen to

1976
01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:30,030
the ABC, well actually ABC I
didn't play though I didn't clip

1977
01:57:30,030 --> 01:57:33,720
the whole thing. But ABC it let
me here's the background or this

1978
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:40,470
is the intro is a 45 second
intro to what becomes a, for all

1979
01:57:40,470 --> 01:57:45,300
practical purposes, a complete
paragraph by paragraph reading

1980
01:57:45,570 --> 01:57:49,230
of this stupid essay, but play
this ABC clip first, again

1981
01:57:49,230 --> 01:57:51,780
with an unprecedented move
something we have never seen

1982
01:57:51,780 --> 01:57:54,900
before. A letter published late
today by the New York Times

1983
01:57:54,900 --> 01:57:58,110
written by someone inside the
Trump administration, and

1984
01:57:58,110 --> 01:58:00,630
anonymous senior official
describing what it's like inside

1985
01:58:00,630 --> 01:58:04,320
the White House inside this
administration, saying I work

1986
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,840
for the president but like
minded colleagues and I have

1987
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:10,140
vowed to thwart part of the
President's agenda and his worst

1988
01:58:10,170 --> 01:58:13,290
inclinations. The senior
official writing in that letter.

1989
01:58:13,290 --> 01:58:16,680
We know what is happening,
adding quote, There is a quiet

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01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,620
resistance within the
administration to put country

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01:58:19,620 --> 01:58:23,280
first. Tonight, the president
tweeting just moments ago, a one

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01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:27,420
word question, treason. And it
all comes 24 hours after Bob

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01:58:27,420 --> 01:58:31,530
Woodward's bombshell book ABCs
chief White House, Jonathan Karl

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:32,490
leading us off.

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01:58:32,700 --> 01:58:38,160
Yeah. So coincidence,
coincidence, Jonathan Karl, for

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01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:42,270
all practical purposes reads the
entire essay is it's

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01:58:42,270 --> 01:58:48,390
unbelievable. I mean, it goes on
for five minutes now and yet it

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01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:51,420
was it was ridiculous. But on
the other side, I think a very

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01:58:51,420 --> 01:58:54,330
good two minute rundown of the
whole thing which includes some

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01:58:54,330 --> 01:58:59,430
clips from from the, from the
essay, not the book, but talks

2001
01:58:59,430 --> 01:59:03,180
about the book. This is the
insider slam. This is Hallie

2002
01:59:03,180 --> 01:59:07,500
Jackson, an NBC who I think does
a much better job. Still anti

2003
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:11,430
Trump reporter but much better
job than Then Jonathan Karl

2004
01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:15,660
and alarm See Inside Out jaw
dropping charges against the

2005
01:59:15,660 --> 01:59:19,080
president by someone who says
they work for him, an anonymous

2006
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:22,230
source describing a secret
cluster of top aides, quote,

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01:59:22,380 --> 01:59:25,920
working diligently from within
to frustrate parts of his agenda

2008
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,910
and his worst inclinations. I
would know the author writes, I

2009
01:59:29,910 --> 01:59:33,480
am one of them. The New York
Times late today publishing that

2010
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,930
op ed choosing not to share who
wrote it but describing them as

2011
01:59:36,930 --> 01:59:40,020
an official whose job would be
jeopardized if their identity

2012
01:59:40,020 --> 01:59:43,680
was revealed. The headline, I am
part of the resistance inside

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01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:44,940
the Trump administration when

2014
01:59:44,940 --> 01:59:49,110
you tell me about some anonymous
source within the administration

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01:59:49,110 --> 01:59:52,800
probably who's failing and
probably here for all the wrong

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01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:56,040
reasons if the failing New York
Times has an anonymous

2017
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:59,430
editorial, can you believe it
anonymous, meaning gutless, a

2018
01:59:59,430 --> 02:00:02,880
gutless said? authorial. We're
doing a great job.

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02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:06,330
The writer praising some of the
President's successes but

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02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:10,260
arguing they've come despite not
because of his leadership style,

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02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:13,440
describing half baked, ill
informed and occasionally

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02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:17,160
reckless decisions that have to
be walked back. At one point,

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02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:19,980
the official describes early
whispers within the cabinet of

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02:00:19,980 --> 02:00:23,790
invoking the 25th amendment to
remove the president. But no one

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02:00:23,790 --> 02:00:27,120
wanted to precipitate a
constitutional crisis. Americans

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02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:29,940
should know that there are
adults in the room, the person

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02:00:29,940 --> 02:00:33,270
writes, we fully recognize what
is happening, and we are trying

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02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:37,770
to do what's right, even when
Donald Trump won't be explosive

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02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:41,100
op ed echoes the portrait
painted in a bombshell new book

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02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:44,760
of a chaotic White House driven
by dysfunction. The President

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02:00:44,790 --> 02:00:46,350
doesn't believe any of it. The
book

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02:00:46,350 --> 02:00:48,720
ever stops, does nothing. It's a
work of fiction.

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02:00:50,010 --> 02:00:53,460
Everything on the Trump
rotation.com, Trump

2034
02:00:53,460 --> 02:00:59,100
rotation.com. Everything with
very few exceptions on that list

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02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:01,440
are put into these reports this
like

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02:01:01,470 --> 02:01:05,640
and but it's also in the
article. Yes, in the article

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02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:05,910
too.

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02:01:06,780 --> 02:01:09,990
And it's like Trump rotation,
they still don't know how to

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02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:11,190
focus on anything.

2040
02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:14,700
They need a lesson in formats
and rotations.

2041
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:19,770
They're just shotgunning the
entire list that we put online,

2042
02:01:19,770 --> 02:01:23,340
which is Trump rotation.com. You
can read it. Everything that

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02:01:23,340 --> 02:01:25,950
everyone said that's bad about
everything except the orange

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02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:28,860
faces in these comments. And
then when I play a little clip

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02:01:28,860 --> 02:01:31,500
with John Kerry, he manages to
bring you that.

2046
02:01:32,700 --> 02:01:35,760
If you look back at Woodward's
past, he had the same problem

2047
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,310
with other presidents. He likes
to get publicity, sell some

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02:01:38,310 --> 02:01:38,730
books,

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02:01:38,790 --> 02:01:42,060
the book's author, Bob Woodward,
one of the most well respected

2050
02:01:42,060 --> 02:01:45,030
journalists of his generation
whose reporting helped bring

2051
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:47,760
down Richard Nixon for the
American people. Why should they

2052
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,290
believe you over Bob Woodward,

2053
02:01:50,220 --> 02:01:52,800
Bob Woodward his track record, I
mean, he had the same problem

2054
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,750
with Obama. And every time he
wrote a book, they were

2055
02:01:54,750 --> 02:01:57,120
complaining about it, they were
complaining about the lack of

2056
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:57,870
accuracy.

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02:01:57,900 --> 02:02:02,700
Woodward tells NBC News, he
stands by his reporting. And the

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02:02:02,700 --> 02:02:05,970
President tonight seemed to
refer to that anonymous op ed

2059
02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:10,500
with a tweet of just a single
word, treason. And the press

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02:02:10,500 --> 02:02:14,250
secretary is now calling the
writer a coward saying Whoever

2061
02:02:14,250 --> 02:02:18,180
it was, should resign all of it.
Lester, capping yet another

2062
02:02:18,180 --> 02:02:21,570
extraordinary and explosive day
inside this West Wing,

2063
02:02:21,930 --> 02:02:25,890
this thing is so multi
dimensional. There's so many

2064
02:02:25,890 --> 02:02:29,490
things at play here, including,
you know, the treason and

2065
02:02:29,490 --> 02:02:35,160
anonymous sources and chaos. And
then please just add to that,

2066
02:02:35,250 --> 02:02:40,200
that Bob Woodward who brought
down a president, every single

2067
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:43,170
member, you see every talking
head, you see on television,

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02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:48,270
dreams of Bob Woodward, they've
got into journalism because of

2069
02:02:48,270 --> 02:02:51,720
Bob Woodward. They want to be
burned Woodward and Bernstein,

2070
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:56,490
they want to be that so badly.
This guy is the pulp of news, he

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02:02:56,490 --> 02:02:57,180
cannot

2072
02:02:57,210 --> 02:03:00,990
be questioned. Cannot

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02:03:01,650 --> 02:03:05,670
and the obvious collusion
between the book and this op ed?

2074
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:09,000
And I just want to pull a few
things out of the CIA? Well,

2075
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,460
yeah, we'll get to that in a
second. So first of all, the New

2076
02:03:11,460 --> 02:03:15,000
York Times in their opening,
because they gloss over that a

2077
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:20,790
little bit. Here's what the time
said about their anonymous op ed

2078
02:03:20,850 --> 02:03:23,970
opinion editor. The Times today
is taking the rare step of

2079
02:03:23,970 --> 02:03:27,540
publishing an anonymous op ed
essay, what is an essay we have

2080
02:03:27,540 --> 02:03:29,760
done? What is the definition of
an essay?

2081
02:03:31,380 --> 02:03:37,410
Does it you know, an essay, it's
like a short, a short exposition

2082
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:41,730
of some idea or thought or, or
something to promote is a

2083
02:03:41,730 --> 02:03:45,390
million things. But this is an
essay, most of all op eds are as

2084
02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:49,830
we have done so at the request
of the author, comma, a senior

2085
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:52,710
official in the Trump
administration whose identity is

2086
02:03:52,710 --> 02:03:56,040
known to us and whose job would
be jeopardized by its

2087
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:58,680
disclosure. We believe
publishing this essay

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02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,040
anonymously is the only way to
deliver an important perspective

2089
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,070
to our readers. We invite you to
submit a question about the

2090
02:04:05,070 --> 02:04:09,780
essay or our vetting process
here. And I just put a few

2091
02:04:09,780 --> 02:04:14,010
annotations in there. In this
note, there's the following, in

2092
02:04:14,010 --> 02:04:17,190
addition to his mass marketing
of the notion that the press is

2093
02:04:17,190 --> 02:04:20,370
the enemy of the people,
President Trump's impulses are

2094
02:04:20,370 --> 02:04:25,500
generally anti trade and anti
democratic. Well, this I mean,

2095
02:04:25,500 --> 02:04:28,740
who in the White House at this
point does not know I'm sure

2096
02:04:28,740 --> 02:04:31,470
that the message has gone out.
Hey, the President actually said

2097
02:04:31,470 --> 02:04:36,060
fake news. And maybe he added he
added CNN in there once of the

2098
02:04:36,060 --> 02:04:42,720
one or two times or the 1000
times he said it but okay. Then

2099
02:04:42,750 --> 02:04:46,320
there's this meetings with him
veer off topic and off the

2100
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:49,470
rails. He engages in repetitive
rants and his impulsiveness

2101
02:04:49,470 --> 02:04:52,020
results in half baked ill
informed and occasionally

2102
02:04:52,020 --> 02:04:55,470
reckless decisions that have to
be walked back. I believe this

2103
02:04:55,470 --> 02:05:00,810
to be true from a certain
perspective, it may A look that

2104
02:05:00,810 --> 02:05:03,510
way because it is, but it's
healthy. I think the how the guy

2105
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:06,510
works, he has a knack for
finding the right people to be

2106
02:05:06,510 --> 02:05:08,940
around him doesn't mind getting
rid of them when they're not

2107
02:05:08,940 --> 02:05:12,030
good enough for not performing.
And he doesn't really even blame

2108
02:05:12,030 --> 02:05:14,940
them typically, like not working
out. I look like a dick. You're

2109
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:18,120
gone. And he throws stuff out
left and right. He's

2110
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:21,870
hyperkinetic. And for some
reason, and Tina, were talking

2111
02:05:21,870 --> 02:05:25,440
about this last night. John, we
know lots of people like this.

2112
02:05:26,130 --> 02:05:29,880
Well, let me tell you a little
Scott Adams anecdote. Oh, good.

2113
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:33,270
This story was breaking when I
was showing up at Scott's house.

2114
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:36,180
And we were talking about it for
a little while. It's not on the

2115
02:05:36,180 --> 02:05:36,570
interview.

2116
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:39,000
How's his crib, by the way? Is
it? Is it?

2117
02:05:41,100 --> 02:05:42,840
Like it?

2118
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:46,440
Did you meet his girlfriend? No,
she wasn't there as you getting

2119
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:47,070
married to her?

2120
02:05:47,610 --> 02:05:51,510
I don't know. He didn't say. And
I only usually pry into that

2121
02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:52,080
sort of thing

2122
02:05:52,110 --> 02:05:54,600
I do. Yeah, you do.

2123
02:05:57,330 --> 02:06:01,140
He says, I don't see what the
big deal is sounds like because

2124
02:06:01,140 --> 02:06:03,510
you know, you have to remember
that Scott. And we talked a

2125
02:06:03,510 --> 02:06:07,170
little bit about this on the
show. But he he does office is

2126
02:06:07,170 --> 02:06:10,860
basically all his cartoons are
about a guy in an office or

2127
02:06:10,860 --> 02:06:14,310
office environment. And he's
been into offices, and he's

2128
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:18,840
knows that the mechanisms. He
says, I don't see that this is

2129
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:22,500
anything more than typically
some guy bitching and moaning

2130
02:06:22,500 --> 02:06:23,640
about his boss.

2131
02:06:23,940 --> 02:06:24,630
Exactly.

2132
02:06:25,890 --> 02:06:29,400
Exactly what I think too. This
is like some grouser. This is I

2133
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:33,480
don't know that guy's. I mean,
I've often in many of office

2134
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:36,270
environments, thought the boss
was an idiot.

2135
02:06:36,810 --> 02:06:39,900
Absolutely. Pretty much
everywhere. But how about that?

2136
02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:42,510
So why is this such a
revelation, all of a sudden,

2137
02:06:42,540 --> 02:06:45,120
I'll give you an example, my
friend Michelle. And you know,

2138
02:06:45,150 --> 02:06:51,360
Michelle, because he owns the
strip bars and the restaurants

2139
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:55,080
and the big entertainment
complex in Guilford. And also

2140
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:59,550
the house near Santra. Pay.
Well, we have a vacation. And

2141
02:06:59,550 --> 02:07:04,830
Michelle is illiterate. And
he'll say, Adam, could you

2142
02:07:04,830 --> 02:07:07,020
please just write this for me
he'll get him on his phone or

2143
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:09,930
write something a business text?
Because that's how he does

2144
02:07:09,930 --> 02:07:13,410
business like Like, he's I'm
illiterate. I can't write I

2145
02:07:13,410 --> 02:07:16,380
can't write I can barely read.
Now I'll send them an article.

2146
02:07:16,530 --> 02:07:19,260
Just can you just call me and
tell me what that he can't read.

2147
02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:22,800
And the guy is wildly successful
has talked Well, not everything

2148
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:27,330
as tons of money. He has no not
a worry in the world, really.

2149
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:32,280
And he and I see his his staff.
I've seen his secretaries, you

2150
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:34,920
know, safe has asked his
daughter, like Daddy, now you

2151
02:07:34,920 --> 02:07:37,470
can't do that. You got to do it
this way. Okay. And you know,

2152
02:07:37,470 --> 02:07:41,190
this off the rails thing. He
knows how to take direction from

2153
02:07:41,190 --> 02:07:44,490
other people. It seems I know
people like this. And it's odd.

2154
02:07:44,490 --> 02:07:47,670
And you see it in a lot in real
estate. You see it in farming.

2155
02:07:47,940 --> 02:07:52,110
You see it in? Factories
everywhere. See it everywhere.

2156
02:07:52,140 --> 02:07:55,260
You're right, what am I talking
about? And so this is a style

2157
02:07:55,260 --> 02:07:58,530
that works and you're successful
or not. And yeah, so there's

2158
02:07:58,530 --> 02:08:02,580
just bitching about his boss. My
note actually said normal people

2159
02:08:02,580 --> 02:08:04,050
are bitching about their boss.

2160
02:08:04,589 --> 02:08:07,079
Now I have a couple of things to
read from this thing, because I

2161
02:08:07,079 --> 02:08:10,199
thought this was. So I believe
this even though it's somebody

2162
02:08:10,199 --> 02:08:13,289
bitched about their boss, I
don't believe anybody. I still

2163
02:08:13,289 --> 02:08:16,469
think this was planted by the
agency, because to get

2164
02:08:16,469 --> 02:08:19,199
Woodward's book out there and
the agency we know,

2165
02:08:19,230 --> 02:08:23,490
well, one thing before you get
into that, two more things. One

2166
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,430
at the bottom, it says the
writer is a senior official in

2167
02:08:26,430 --> 02:08:29,700
the Trump administration. That
could be a lot of people, too.

2168
02:08:29,790 --> 02:08:33,540
It is definitely definitely not
military or military

2169
02:08:33,540 --> 02:08:37,140
intelligence. Because of the
entire two paragraphs about

2170
02:08:37,140 --> 02:08:41,490
McCain his farewell letter. We
may no longer have Senator

2171
02:08:41,490 --> 02:08:46,020
McCain, we will always have his
example A lodestar, a lodestar

2172
02:08:46,380 --> 02:08:50,220
load lodestar, what does it
lodestar?

2173
02:08:50,670 --> 02:08:54,720
Well, the load of load stone is
what I know

2174
02:08:54,780 --> 02:09:00,540
lodestar consultant, look of
knowledge. Read the rest while

2175
02:09:00,540 --> 02:09:03,870
you're looking that up a
lodestar. Anybody who writes

2176
02:09:03,870 --> 02:09:07,590
lodestar in my office should be
fired for restoring honor to

2177
02:09:07,590 --> 02:09:10,710
public life in our national
dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear

2178
02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:13,890
such honorable men, but we
should revere them. That is not

2179
02:09:13,890 --> 02:09:14,790
a military person.

2180
02:09:15,150 --> 02:09:19,740
No, no oars are is a star that's
used to guide the course of a

2181
02:09:19,740 --> 02:09:25,590
ship, especially Polaris. So
nobody in their right mind would

2182
02:09:25,590 --> 02:09:29,100
use that word guiding light
would be a better term if you

2183
02:09:29,100 --> 02:09:30,510
wanted to, you know if

2184
02:09:30,510 --> 02:09:33,510
nobody wants to follow McCain
when he was landing, trust me.

2185
02:09:34,290 --> 02:09:39,090
Well, he killed him. Well, this
Nuff said. Nuff said said about

2186
02:09:39,090 --> 02:09:44,460
McCain. So here I'm reading this
this isn't a this is again, the

2187
02:09:44,460 --> 02:09:48,090
CIA is notorious for kind of
running the New York Times.

2188
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:50,550
There's plenty of examples of
how that works.

2189
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:55,110
Operation Mockingbird, it's out
in the public they read this

2190
02:09:55,110 --> 02:09:58,950
in there again and Woodward is
in the book a family of secrets

2191
02:09:58,950 --> 02:10:02,580
everyone should read. I've read
This book by now is Woodward

2192
02:10:02,580 --> 02:10:05,340
came out of military Intel at
Naval intelligence, I believe,

2193
02:10:05,700 --> 02:10:10,140
where the word lodestar would be
used. Perhaps Woodward himself

2194
02:10:10,140 --> 02:10:13,710
could have written this and then
I'm not buying the whole the

2195
02:10:13,710 --> 02:10:16,560
whole. I mean, I don't think
they'd live a senior official,

2196
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:17,670
but it's possible that

2197
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:22,230
while he was here, usually
here's the result. Here's the

2198
02:10:22,230 --> 02:10:25,170
result. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
and I'll keep going. I'm sorry,

2199
02:10:25,170 --> 02:10:27,090
I thought you were just
struggling with grasping,

2200
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:31,620
which is the this is a this is a
scam.

2201
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:36,660
I think the two belong together
and it's a scam. And I have some

2202
02:10:36,660 --> 02:10:37,230
thoughts.

2203
02:10:37,740 --> 02:10:40,530
Here we read a couple of pieces
from you've read a couple,

2204
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:44,070
although he was now going to
read them and deconstruct this

2205
02:10:44,070 --> 02:10:48,510
paragraph. For one thing, nobody
who is was very long sentences,

2206
02:10:48,510 --> 02:10:51,450
very destructured self is not
typical of a government

2207
02:10:51,450 --> 02:10:55,740
bureaucrat, senior official or
not. I just say that, although

2208
02:10:55,740 --> 02:10:58,260
he was elected, because the
editors come in, maybe the

2209
02:10:58,260 --> 02:11:01,470
editors screwed with it.
Although he was elected as a

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02:11:01,470 --> 02:11:05,520
Republican, Republican. The
President shows little affinity

2211
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:09,510
for ideals long espoused by
conservatives Wait a minute. He

2212
02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:13,110
wasn't elected as a
conservative. He was elected as

2213
02:11:13,110 --> 02:11:17,310
a Republican. So now they've
mixed up so all of a sudden,

2214
02:11:17,790 --> 02:11:21,180
Republicans or conservatives or
conservatives or Republicans are

2215
02:11:21,180 --> 02:11:24,150
synonymous and he was elected as
a conservative by the way, they

2216
02:11:24,150 --> 02:11:26,520
structure this bullcrap he was
elected as a Republican, they

2217
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:30,960
got that right. But then they
switch it to conservative he was

2218
02:11:31,110 --> 02:11:34,320
he's shows little affinities for
ideas long espoused by

2219
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,860
conservatives. Okay, he was
elected as a Republican, not as

2220
02:11:37,860 --> 02:11:42,150
a conservative, free minds,
gonna see any difference or free

2221
02:11:42,150 --> 02:11:45,690
markets and free people, free
minds, free markets, free

2222
02:11:45,690 --> 02:11:52,740
people. Do things espoused by
conservatives are liberty and

2223
02:11:52,740 --> 02:11:57,570
freedom. So they got one of them
in here. liberty and freedom and

2224
02:11:57,570 --> 02:12:00,540
and the Democrat side, or the
progressive side is the other

2225
02:12:00,540 --> 02:12:03,060
one, which is equality and
justice. This is a theme that

2226
02:12:03,060 --> 02:12:07,080
was pointed out in the show long
ago. And freedom and liberty is

2227
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:12,060
the is the conservative side,
not free minds, free markets and

2228
02:12:12,060 --> 02:12:12,570
free people,

2229
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:17,070
free, free your mind. And then
your dress, we follow

2230
02:12:17,490 --> 02:12:22,020
it. And he says at best, he has
invoked these ideals in scripted

2231
02:12:22,020 --> 02:12:26,250
settings. At worse, he has
attack them outright, as he's

2232
02:12:26,250 --> 02:12:30,300
attacked it as he attacked free
minds. Do you know of?

2233
02:12:31,019 --> 02:12:33,929
He's living? Yes, he's living
rent free and a lot of them

2234
02:12:33,929 --> 02:12:34,679
these days.

2235
02:12:35,130 --> 02:12:39,630
Now as as kind of a as kind of a
bad walk back that this guy did

2236
02:12:39,630 --> 02:12:42,960
who are woman who wrote this
thing. They throw these

2237
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:46,740
gratuitous compliments in just
as as code for something and I'm

2238
02:12:46,740 --> 02:12:50,130
not sure why they're doing it,
just maybe so they can soften

2239
02:12:50,130 --> 02:12:54,210
the blow of the critics. So two
paragraphs later, he says or she

2240
02:12:54,420 --> 02:12:57,750
don't get me wrong. I would like
to run this through I have I

2241
02:12:57,750 --> 02:13:00,120
have the feeling it's a man, by
the way that by the writing

2242
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:03,690
style. These are bright spots
that the near ceaseless negative

2243
02:13:03,690 --> 02:13:08,310
coverage of the administration
fails to capture these there are

2244
02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:11,130
no I'm sorry, there are bright
spots. So he said don't get me

2245
02:13:11,130 --> 02:13:13,770
wrong. There are bright spots.
And he mentions effective

2246
02:13:13,770 --> 02:13:17,310
deregulation, which took some
leadership, historic tax reform,

2247
02:13:17,310 --> 02:13:21,120
which took some leadership and a
more robust military and more.

2248
02:13:21,900 --> 02:13:27,300
But then continues these
successes have come despite the

2249
02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:30,600
President's leadership style,
which is impetuous, adversarial,

2250
02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:34,410
petty, and ineffective. If it's
ineffective, how did these

2251
02:13:34,410 --> 02:13:37,470
things get done? Boy, he's
saying that the Bureau of

2252
02:13:37,500 --> 02:13:41,340
bureaucracy is doing it, but to
bureaucracy is not going to do

2253
02:13:41,340 --> 02:13:42,480
that tax break.

2254
02:13:42,510 --> 02:13:46,650
Are you ready for me? Get it? Do
you have an opinion on who this

2255
02:13:46,650 --> 02:13:47,970
is? And what's going on?

2256
02:13:48,690 --> 02:13:50,550
I don't have an opinion of who
it is no.

2257
02:13:50,610 --> 02:13:53,850
Okay. I have an opinion of what
went down. It's just a theory.

2258
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:58,140
Please address me as a
conspiracy theorist. Because I'm

2259
02:13:58,140 --> 02:14:02,490
proud conspiracy theory. I'm
proud of that monitor. This was

2260
02:14:02,490 --> 02:14:07,680
set up by John Kelly is three
people involved. John Kelly, who

2261
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:11,430
is Trump's handler on behalf of
the defense intelligence

2262
02:14:11,490 --> 02:14:14,430
apparatus. It was really
managing the guy who's very

2263
02:14:14,430 --> 02:14:17,610
tired, but he manages the guy.
We know the military is running

2264
02:14:17,820 --> 02:14:21,930
the show right now. It's been
the CIA for eight years. And now

2265
02:14:21,930 --> 02:14:27,630
it's back to the military.
involved where Kellyanne Conway

2266
02:14:27,660 --> 02:14:32,250
and the Raj guy and Trump did
not know about it. And they set

2267
02:14:32,250 --> 02:14:35,370
it up they gave Woodward all
kinds of great things. I'm sure

2268
02:14:35,370 --> 02:14:38,130
Kelly called him a moron or
whatever. I'm sure all of that

2269
02:14:38,130 --> 02:14:43,470
happened. Because what is the
message of the book? And what is

2270
02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:48,810
accentuated to put the the
exclamation point behind the

2271
02:14:48,810 --> 02:14:51,120
message in the New York Times is

2272
02:14:52,530 --> 02:14:53,640
it's a shit show.

2273
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:58,020
But there are adults in the
room. There's nothing to worry

2274
02:14:58,020 --> 02:15:02,460
about people and that is is in
effect true. That's what Kelly

2275
02:15:02,460 --> 02:15:04,740
knows, because that's how things
have been running. And that's

2276
02:15:04,740 --> 02:15:07,800
what things are actually getting
done. I think Trump got in on

2277
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:10,950
it. I think that they told him
and that's when he he might have

2278
02:15:10,950 --> 02:15:13,470
gone a little too far with the
treason, they got to tell. But

2279
02:15:13,470 --> 02:15:16,260
he'll be able to play that for a
long time. And that'll change

2280
02:15:16,260 --> 02:15:18,630
the news cycle. Everyone will be
focused on Ken, The New York

2281
02:15:18,630 --> 02:15:21,480
Times do that. And is it
treasonous it's that's why I

2282
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:27,060
think he invoked the T word,
treason. I think the message is,

2283
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:30,450
don't worry adults in the room
as you can tell, the making

2284
02:15:30,450 --> 02:15:33,510
stuff work, hey, we'll even take
some off someone's desk off the

2285
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:36,360
guy's desk if we have to, and
look how good everything's

2286
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:39,630
going. That's the message. And I
think it's the tonal center

2287
02:15:39,630 --> 02:15:39,930
argue

2288
02:15:39,930 --> 02:15:44,490
the message, I'm going to argue
the Genesis because there has to

2289
02:15:44,490 --> 02:15:48,780
be a middle man, some schmuck,
some schmo, a schlemiel,

2290
02:15:48,780 --> 02:15:52,830
perhaps, who, who takes this and
walk walks us through the New

2291
02:15:52,830 --> 02:15:56,610
York Times, there's no way that
the people you mentioned can

2292
02:15:56,610 --> 02:15:59,310
take and walk this to the New
York Times without getting

2293
02:15:59,310 --> 02:16:00,060
busted for it.

2294
02:16:00,090 --> 02:16:03,420
Right. So someone, someone is a
very big patriot

2295
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:06,930
and is going to go down as a
martyr,

2296
02:16:07,110 --> 02:16:10,920
buddy who may be used to work
for the Obama administration,

2297
02:16:11,580 --> 02:16:15,660
who had a plenty of them in
there that can walk over there

2298
02:16:15,660 --> 02:16:18,510
and they could, you know, they
covered did covered for him.

2299
02:16:18,540 --> 02:16:22,200
Well, it's probably this is
probably the national security

2300
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:26,160
guy who already what's his name?
Dan Coates. Think could be him.

2301
02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:30,030
could be it could be. It could
be Larry Kudlow. It sounds a bit

2302
02:16:30,030 --> 02:16:33,480
like the way Larry Kudlow would
spin on that bus, but Larry

2303
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,780
Kudlow would I mean, he loves
Trump, he wants to sleep by

2304
02:16:36,780 --> 02:16:39,090
that, but he would they'd bust
him and he would.

2305
02:16:39,420 --> 02:16:42,630
He's frail, he's fragile right
now he's gonna do it. He can't

2306
02:16:42,630 --> 02:16:43,680
he's not an active duty.

2307
02:16:44,430 --> 02:16:47,130
And he's not one of those guys
who would do who doesn't do

2308
02:16:47,130 --> 02:16:50,970
things just come. This is a
complex. This is a complex

2309
02:16:50,970 --> 02:16:54,450
mechanism to sell a lot of
Woodward's books.

2310
02:16:54,600 --> 02:16:57,210
Well, Woodward wins no matter
what. Yeah,

2311
02:16:57,210 --> 02:16:58,470
well, Yogesh does so

2312
02:16:58,469 --> 02:17:03,449
yeah. So okay, so what you're
saying is, it did happen. And

2313
02:17:04,259 --> 02:17:06,839
the New York Times thought this
was cute, and they're idiots

2314
02:17:06,839 --> 02:17:09,899
because they're actually sending
the you agree with the message.

2315
02:17:09,899 --> 02:17:12,539
So they're sending that message
is that don't don't they want to

2316
02:17:12,539 --> 02:17:14,969
screw the President as much as
possible? I think they

2317
02:17:14,969 --> 02:17:19,259
don't think that dimensionally.
Gotcha. And because they're

2318
02:17:19,259 --> 02:17:22,769
journalists at heart, and
they're just you know, they're

2319
02:17:22,769 --> 02:17:25,949
just knee jerk reactors is oh,
look, we got little we got Oh,

2320
02:17:25,949 --> 02:17:28,679
blah, blah, like a bunch of
little rats.

2321
02:17:29,940 --> 02:17:32,490
Well, actually, we should talk
about journos in a minute and

2322
02:17:32,490 --> 02:17:34,800
then maybe we'll bring in your
lip Joes but first we're running

2323
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:35,700
behind today.

2324
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:39,420
I'm gonna show my school by
donating to no agenda Imagine

2325
02:17:39,420 --> 02:17:42,120
all the people who could do that
oh yeah, that'd be fun

2326
02:17:49,740 --> 02:17:54,210
then we do a few people to thank
for show 1066 which was was that

2327
02:17:54,210 --> 02:17:57,540
the Norman invasion suppose you
gotta look this up for me. Sir,

2328
02:17:57,540 --> 02:18:02,220
ever the what comes in at the
top here at $144 parts unknowns

2329
02:18:02,280 --> 02:18:07,710
route? Rui, Rui, are you eyes?
God? Oh, yes. I

2330
02:18:07,710 --> 02:18:08,430
gotta Yep.

2331
02:18:08,910 --> 02:18:11,550
He's in Portugal. Yeah. So

2332
02:18:11,550 --> 02:18:14,700
God, it might be pronounced
differently. 12345 on the thank

2333
02:18:14,700 --> 02:18:18,630
him. He's on the birthday list.
There's 3333 and he's

2334
02:18:18,630 --> 02:18:21,120
expecting a few years he's
expecting his first human

2335
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:24,000
resource of the front whole
variety.

2336
02:18:27,690 --> 02:18:28,650
Horrible people,

2337
02:18:29,219 --> 02:18:34,619
damaged Scoville. $106.60 This
is in memoriam of England

2338
02:18:34,619 --> 02:18:36,359
becoming subject to a foreign
power.

2339
02:18:38,250 --> 02:18:40,620
Wow. Oh, sorry. Sorry to hear
about that.

2340
02:18:40,620 --> 02:18:47,910
Oh, 1066. Hello. Oh, beautiful.
Born the moron invasion. Oh, so

2341
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:53,010
Right. Yeah. 10 says got 1060
Say you were right, sir. $106.

2342
02:18:53,010 --> 02:18:53,130
And

2343
02:18:53,130 --> 02:18:55,650
again, you and Dennis the only
people in the world who still

2344
02:18:55,650 --> 02:18:57,570
know some history. And then we

2345
02:18:57,570 --> 02:19:03,420
try. John Robin $100. Search
Tristan banning $100 in Toronto,

2346
02:19:03,420 --> 02:19:08,580
Ontario. Somebody HBD Adam.
Happy birthday. Yes. Thank you.

2347
02:19:09,090 --> 02:19:14,700
Oh, sir Brent Dombrowski. It
9999 another birthday donation

2348
02:19:14,700 --> 02:19:15,960
for you. And it's funny. Well,
it's

2349
02:19:15,960 --> 02:19:19,110
just 99 is 54 for me and 45

2350
02:19:20,340 --> 02:19:22,410
for herself. Oh, he's

2351
02:19:22,410 --> 02:19:23,280
on September 3.

2352
02:19:23,309 --> 02:19:27,359
Okay, gotcha. Casey crib is on
the list. Yes, I think so. JC

2353
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:30,869
Crisler in Phoenix Arizona at 86
are horrible and hold on hold

2354
02:19:30,869 --> 02:19:31,049
on.

2355
02:19:31,080 --> 02:19:35,790
This makes me a knight. Is Casey
on Yes. I want to add the extra

2356
02:19:35,790 --> 02:19:40,020
$10 For Walter see hitting me in
the mouth but he's never donated

2357
02:19:40,020 --> 02:19:46,020
so a douchebag call it and D
douching. are in order. You've

2358
02:19:46,020 --> 02:19:50,910
been dee doo she's not the as
Sir some guy in Phoenix.

2359
02:19:51,450 --> 02:19:54,270
I think the way you did that was
improper.

2360
02:19:55,650 --> 02:19:56,520
He asked for it.

2361
02:19:57,480 --> 02:20:00,180
Why did he want to deducing for
the guy he did. Wash

2362
02:20:00,180 --> 02:20:04,110
bagged, yes. Oh, that was for
him. No, I

2363
02:20:04,110 --> 02:20:09,900
did it correctly that nevermind,
sir her lamb 808. Hopefully

2364
02:20:09,900 --> 02:20:13,890
you'll get to see some boobs for
your birthday. But he says dude

2365
02:20:13,890 --> 02:20:18,960
named Mohammed Ali do name.
Happy birthday to you. Thank

2366
02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:21,960
you. The way I think there's
another

2367
02:20:21,960 --> 02:20:25,290
dude named Dave Muhammad Ali and
do name Muhammad.

2368
02:20:25,470 --> 02:20:29,640
Yeah, this dude named Mohammed
Ali. Lee Whitaker and DOE. Royal

2369
02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:35,550
Tunbridge Wells, Kent. UK. Royal
Tunbridge Wells. Yes. Rob Van

2370
02:20:35,550 --> 02:20:38,790
Dyck in the Netherlands 808

2371
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:42,600
is now one of our guys.

2372
02:20:43,170 --> 02:20:48,630
No, oh, by the way, our guy
Roderick won the big podcast

2373
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:51,090
award the online radio award in

2374
02:20:51,900 --> 02:20:56,700
this Yeah. And they said thanks
to you and I was at all

2375
02:20:57,030 --> 02:21:01,470
well, I was in the on the jury.
So they said hey, you want to be

2376
02:21:01,470 --> 02:21:04,770
a part of the online radio
awards? And no, but yeah, you're

2377
02:21:04,770 --> 02:21:08,010
the pod father. Yeah. To have to
do anything now just vote and of

2378
02:21:08,010 --> 02:21:11,310
course, they're like, oh, send a
video congratulating them. I'm

2379
02:21:11,310 --> 02:21:14,610
not gonna do it. Stupid as you
know, that shows up on TV and

2380
02:21:14,610 --> 02:21:19,770
looked like an idiot. So no, but
so Roderick and my other mother

2381
02:21:19,770 --> 02:21:24,870
protege me fuel fame, Sarah, and
they all won awards. So I'm

2382
02:21:24,900 --> 02:21:26,190
very, very happy for

2383
02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:32,850
them. Yes. Nicholas Vossler and
Marina del Rey 808. He wants to

2384
02:21:32,850 --> 02:21:35,340
listen to that horn. I think
you've got plenty of it today.

2385
02:21:35,370 --> 02:21:40,170
Robert Wood in Benbrook, Texas
75. B. A Bresson in Amsterdam.

2386
02:21:41,280 --> 02:21:42,780
Probably Bruce and oh that's

2387
02:21:42,810 --> 02:21:46,620
that's that's roadworks guy from
the award winning TPO podcast.

2388
02:21:46,770 --> 02:21:47,250
Hey, go

2389
02:21:47,250 --> 02:21:52,080
for the five birch and row. Sir
Tom dari in DeForest Wisconsin

2390
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:58,140
double nickels on the dime. Sir
Chris in Reno 5454 valued card

2391
02:21:58,140 --> 02:22:03,570
holder in Queensland 5425 By the
way in your bag Dave in Concord,

2392
02:22:03,570 --> 02:22:04,470
California.

2393
02:22:04,620 --> 02:22:07,620
The award winning TPO podcast
can be heard on the no agenda

2394
02:22:07,620 --> 02:22:09,390
stream at knowledge
industry.com.

2395
02:22:10,410 --> 02:22:13,440
Let's go back to our Reno's pal
Happy Birthday to Adam and a

2396
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:16,920
happy birthday douchebag call it
to my friend art in Las Vegas.

2397
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:25,080
So alright. Chris in Reno gives
you a douchebag call out Karl

2398
02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:29,970
Schneider 54 Robert Marsh at the
four keep up the important work

2399
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:34,200
jobs karma. Dark goo we'll put
that at the end Darko Mila tech

2400
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:39,540
in Buenos Aires Argentina 54
hours do we have any other

2401
02:22:39,540 --> 02:22:45,450
Argentinian many not many not
many? Ron link in Holbrook New

2402
02:22:45,450 --> 02:22:45,840
York and

2403
02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:47,610
these are all these are all
birthday wishes.

2404
02:22:47,610 --> 02:22:50,790
All right, he's I'm sorry. These
are all $54 donations the last

2405
02:22:50,790 --> 02:22:53,460
of the thank you for being
having a birthday Adam

2406
02:22:53,580 --> 02:22:57,390
and Ron link actually says his
smokin hot something is

2407
02:22:57,390 --> 02:23:01,440
celebrating today. Ron link
smokin hot wife. Okay, I'll put

2408
02:23:01,440 --> 02:23:02,370
that on the birthdays.

2409
02:23:02,730 --> 02:23:06,180
Birthday. Put her on there. He
says you'll have an A you have

2410
02:23:06,180 --> 02:23:09,390
an extra child. This has been on
your benefit. He says right

2411
02:23:09,390 --> 02:23:13,980
there after he had an extra
child. Oh, I'm sorry. Is this

2412
02:23:13,980 --> 02:23:15,570
candle nevermind? Oh,

2413
02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:18,450
I was gonna say if it's a child.
Of course the child has to be

2414
02:23:18,450 --> 02:23:22,350
called Adam. Adam Clark,

2415
02:23:22,410 --> 02:23:26,760
John Charles. And what's his
lesson link Rabinowitz.

2416
02:23:27,960 --> 02:23:30,540
Link now his name is link
Where's Rabinowitz? I don't see

2417
02:23:30,540 --> 02:23:31,260
Rabindra I just

2418
02:23:31,260 --> 02:23:37,860
said there will be good name.
Angelo's saucy. Where someplace

2419
02:23:37,860 --> 02:23:43,260
in check. It looks like CH which
is Switzerland. Bart Barton's

2420
02:23:43,950 --> 02:23:48,390
Parts Unknown. Sir Brian toe
bias in in Gardner, Kansas.

2421
02:23:49,050 --> 02:23:52,410
Charles George and Coral
Springs, Florida. Brian moss in

2422
02:23:52,410 --> 02:23:57,300
Rancho Santa Margarita. Peter
Chung in Lakewood, Washington.

2423
02:23:57,660 --> 02:24:02,250
Andrea, Adrianna, Old Port
dough. Sir Christopher Baron of

2424
02:24:02,250 --> 02:24:08,790
the Buckeye Sam sealer, the
allen d Peterson rent ala tour

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in Nova Scotia. Tyler Fox and
Cedar Park, Texas.

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02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:16,680
He says maybe we'll get that
Mooney flight in while you're

2427
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still 54 We have to go flying.
Oh, it's

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02:24:20,940 --> 02:24:22,290
got the moon mot flying it.

2429
02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:24,450
I want to fly it. John Leclerc.

2430
02:24:24,690 --> 02:24:29,940
Sir, could you please could you
be Luxembourg in Luxembourg

2431
02:24:29,940 --> 02:24:36,090
literally from Luxembourg.
Daniel Roberts, Taylor coos Zela

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02:24:36,090 --> 02:24:39,570
in Alpharetta, Georgia Kurt.
Parts Unknown Daniel Gallo in

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Marietta, Georgia. Christopher
poly in Verona Wisconsin Rob

2434
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Warren. Michael Ragusa reg goose
cemetery the night of the

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Crowley's Ridge

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Vegas it's rigorous, rigorous,
rigorous,

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it is rigorous. It's pronounced
like Vegas Vegas. Sir Terry

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02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,560
Knight of the Crowley Ridge,
Adam Barrett, James Blair,

2439
02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:08,070
Michael gay and that with James
Blair ends your little your

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little congratulations list.

2441
02:25:10,650 --> 02:25:12,210
Yes from the Michigan local one.

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Yeah Michigan logo one rocks.

2443
02:25:15,929 --> 02:25:17,399
Sounds very convincing.

2444
02:25:19,980 --> 02:25:25,980
Michael gates 50 to 80 Eric
Hogle we just needed he was an

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02:25:25,980 --> 02:25:29,040
ad douche. Oh, this is this is
difficult. Well, this is half,

2446
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half. Half something. Ah halfs

2447
02:25:32,430 --> 02:25:36,720
it's Norwegian. So Pay Pal
screwed it up again. Posh

2448
02:25:37,980 --> 02:25:40,470
well, we'll figure it out next
time. Oh, it does need to be

2449
02:25:40,470 --> 02:25:45,120
douching we can do that. You've
been de deuced

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he says he liked JDC DS
explanation of property white

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washing and Adams realization
that bitcoins true purpose,

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being able to pay when entities
try to stop you.

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And now we have $50 donors name
and location starting with

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Andrew Martin in Sydney,
Australia. Victor Munoz in

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Miami, Florida. Jeff Defibaugh
sir Josh deaf avadh Not Jeff.

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Yes or Josh Defibaugh. Scotty
knight in lost wages. Paul ven

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Cordilla.

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02:26:17,940 --> 02:26:21,270
I haven't heard seen him on on
the list in a while I would in a

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mode and of course I'm out and
we know Paul

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Janu geomancy Jana Zhu ski in
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and Mercedes Texas. James
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Virginia and Brian Clem, Zach,
Parts Unknown Ralph Johnson,

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Lake Isabella, Jason deluzy and
Chadds Ford, Pennsylvania, John

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Horner in Bay, St. Louis,
Mississippi. And last but not

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least, our buddy over here in
Oakland, Sir Allen being in

2466
02:26:50,010 --> 02:26:54,900
Oakland. Thank all these folks
are producing show 1066 with

2467
02:26:54,900 --> 02:26:56,970
their generous contribution.
Yes,

2468
02:26:56,970 --> 02:27:00,000
and thank you for your your
birthday wishes as well. I

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02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:02,520
really appreciate that had a
very nice birthday was very, you

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02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:09,240
know, calm. Cool. Just Tina
Marie and me. And it's very nice

2471
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:11,820
to get you know, since there's
no more face bag in my life with

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02:27:11,820 --> 02:27:16,230
people who just click a box to
say Happy Birthday HBD won't

2473
02:27:16,230 --> 02:27:17,310
even say happy birthday.

2474
02:27:19,230 --> 02:27:24,660
wish them happy birthday. Click
Click HBD. Well, thank you for

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02:27:24,660 --> 02:27:26,040
the personalized gift.

2476
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:30,150
Right? Well, and these are
personalized. I read I'm reading

2477
02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:32,310
the spreadsheet and people have
nice little notes. And so thank

2478
02:27:32,310 --> 02:27:34,080
you very much. And also of
course, thank you.

2479
02:27:34,770 --> 02:27:37,770
Sorry, do more than click a box.
Yes. Yeah, they

2480
02:27:37,770 --> 02:27:40,380
took like real money out of
their pocket and supported the

2481
02:27:40,380 --> 02:27:43,710
show in my honor of being born
so they're really they're

2482
02:27:43,710 --> 02:27:44,820
honoring my mom. It's

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02:27:46,710 --> 02:27:47,520
a

2484
02:27:47,550 --> 02:27:50,070
yes, it's a thank you to
everyone who came in under $50

2485
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:53,880
on our subscription plans, our
layaway plans, we have the 3330

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threes 11 elevens 12 twelves and
also for reasons of anonymity

2487
02:27:58,320 --> 02:28:04,440
and a reminder, we have meetups
coming in Bucharest, Romania

2488
02:28:07,590 --> 02:28:10,470
austin texas of course although
we're waiting for a new date it

2489
02:28:10,470 --> 02:28:14,520
will no longer be October 6
Because of Austin City live and

2490
02:28:14,520 --> 02:28:16,800
you do not want to be in Austin
when that takes place unless you

2491
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:22,860
are performing on stage and who
was this the no agenda meet up

2492
02:28:23,160 --> 02:28:26,580
so people need to I guess there
was a plea to please look at the

2493
02:28:26,580 --> 02:28:29,580
no agenda show meet up team but
then there's apparently there's

2494
02:28:29,580 --> 02:28:32,370
a someone's trying to do no
agenda meetup.com Which isn't

2495
02:28:32,370 --> 02:28:35,520
going anywhere yet. So we're
still a mass media needs to grab

2496
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:38,790
hold of this John. Yeah, she's
good she's gonna grab it right

2497
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:41,310
because someone's doing
something with changing meetup

2498
02:28:41,310 --> 02:28:44,550
domain names. I don't know I in
general, I encourage it because

2499
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:45,810
we want the meetups to happen

2500
02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:47,940
is always going to be a little
Helter Skelter. I

2501
02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:52,890
think how to scale up. All
right. Our special show on

2502
02:28:52,890 --> 02:28:56,880
Sunday, which we do want you to
check out because we have Dane

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Dane

2504
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Danes last name again. Jasper,
Dane Jasper.

2505
02:29:04,260 --> 02:29:09,870
The from Sonic net and Scott
Adams. John's doubleheader is

2506
02:29:09,870 --> 02:29:12,240
nothing like a Divorce Act
doubleheader and you'll have

2507
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:14,190
them on Sunday. Remember the
divorce hack?

2508
02:29:14,190 --> 02:29:20,280
doubleheader@sephora.org slash n
a. We got some comments to take

2509
02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:20,640
care of

2510
02:29:20,820 --> 02:29:29,730
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You've got karma

2511
02:29:38,460 --> 02:29:42,480
are the birthdays for today it
is September 6 2018. Scott

2512
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,150
Richardson said Happy Birthday
to his brother Adam Richardson

2513
02:29:45,150 --> 02:29:50,970
turns 25 Erie Ruiz Salgado turns
33 Tomorrow sir Brent celebrated

2514
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:54,750
my birthday September 3. Sir
Chris in Reno says Happy

2515
02:29:54,750 --> 02:29:58,590
Birthday to his friend art in
Vegas valued coma cardholder,

2516
02:29:58,800 --> 02:30:03,570
aka Jeff hennion says Happy
Birthday to himself he turns 25

2517
02:30:03,570 --> 02:30:07,320
And September 8, and we say
happy birthday to Ron links

2518
02:30:07,530 --> 02:30:11,100
smokin hot wife from everybody
here at the best podcast in the

2519
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:16,560
universe. Okay, we got two
nights so there's my blade.

2520
02:30:17,130 --> 02:30:20,040
Yeah, here we go. You got a
double night Blaze. Nice Scott

2521
02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:26,310
White. Perfect. Brian Gerard and
Casey Chrysler step on up for

2522
02:30:26,310 --> 02:30:29,820
Crisler. It matters not because
both of you are about to become

2523
02:30:29,820 --> 02:30:32,070
knights and be known by your
night name here at the

2524
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:34,800
roundtable the no agenda Knights
and Dames and we thank you very

2525
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:37,530
much for supporting the work and
I'm proud to pronounce the KP

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02:30:37,890 --> 02:30:43,770
serve skull and strokes of the
lambda lions and Sir some guy in

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02:30:43,770 --> 02:30:47,550
Phoenix gentlemen, for you. We
have hookers and blow red boys

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and Chardonnay. We got cookies
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women why Fuson waffles then
releases lemon cello and salmon

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fish pie in fellatio we have
bonnets and bourbon bucket

2531
02:30:56,850 --> 02:30:59,880
vanilla sparkling cider and
escorts ginger ale and dribbles

2532
02:30:59,880 --> 02:31:05,130
and all over at the roundtable
HQ, which is no agenda

2533
02:31:05,130 --> 02:31:09,390
nation.com/rings. And that's
where Eric the show will help

2534
02:31:09,390 --> 02:31:12,150
you get your package out to you
as soon as possible. And thank

2535
02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:14,850
you again for supporting the
show. Remember our next one,

2536
02:31:14,850 --> 02:31:18,420
which is a special double
Divorce Act doubleheader. And

2537
02:31:18,420 --> 02:31:20,670
remember that divorce
act.org/na.

2538
02:31:21,270 --> 02:31:24,840
And I have a couple of cleanup
notes to read. And also Eric did

2539
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:29,910
send a note and saying that our
three 666 guy actually made 2333

2540
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:34,500
Okay, he combined them I didn't
see. So you know, didn't the one

2541
02:31:34,500 --> 02:31:35,460
of them. And listen,

2542
02:31:36,570 --> 02:31:41,700
I have like a longer segment
about journalism, which includes

2543
02:31:41,700 --> 02:31:45,690
a very long clip of John's story
read this. I'm just letting you

2544
02:31:45,690 --> 02:31:47,520
know that that's what I was
thinking of doing. Would it be

2545
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:50,880
long? Yeah, I think you'll like
it. If not, you can always cut

2546
02:31:50,880 --> 02:31:52,200
me off. You know, you will.

2547
02:31:52,890 --> 02:31:56,670
Don't do it. Sometimes you get
mesmerized by some of these

2548
02:31:56,670 --> 02:32:01,740
fabulous clips. I know. John at
drunker John Adams is from

2549
02:32:01,740 --> 02:32:06,180
Victor Munoz, who did since the
money and he started a nightly

2550
02:32:06,180 --> 02:32:08,550
monthly layaway donation a
couple of months ago is

2551
02:32:08,550 --> 02:32:15,630
officially No It needs a D
douching. Okay. Since the show's

2552
02:32:15,630 --> 02:32:20,490
been on fire for a couple of
months, then Steeler 96 writes

2553
02:32:20,490 --> 02:32:22,920
in revenue because a big change
is coming along in the near

2554
02:32:22,920 --> 02:32:24,900
future for myself. I was
wondering if I could get some

2555
02:32:24,900 --> 02:32:28,890
moving karma and jobs karma as
I'm an adult under 40. But the

2556
02:32:28,890 --> 02:32:31,020
move out of my on my own?

2557
02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:32,730
Well, of course. Of course.

2558
02:32:34,170 --> 02:32:35,850
You've got karma

2559
02:32:38,610 --> 02:32:42,510
There you go. He's looking
forward to our deconstruction of

2560
02:32:42,510 --> 02:32:44,610
the Kavanaugh stuff and I think
he'd probably got it.

2561
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:45,360
I think he got

2562
02:32:45,630 --> 02:32:47,580
his get enough. You got some
value?

2563
02:32:48,900 --> 02:32:52,920
Yeah. Okay. Now there was
something we were gonna discuss

2564
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:57,660
it there was a we had to set up
about Chuck Todd and his article

2565
02:32:57,660 --> 02:33:00,090
which he wrote about journalism.

2566
02:33:00,690 --> 02:33:04,200
Okay, can I get these clips out
of the way? And then I think we

2567
02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:07,620
can go there. Yeah. Because they
they're kind of semi related.

2568
02:33:07,620 --> 02:33:11,190
First, I want to play the C,
this is C B. S. And that's what

2569
02:33:11,190 --> 02:33:15,150
that is. It actually is CBS and
this is the I want to did make a

2570
02:33:15,150 --> 02:33:18,270
comment about this. This is that
show they have online as like

2571
02:33:18,270 --> 02:33:22,080
the 24 hour news of CBS. And
this is the fire the idiot

2572
02:33:22,080 --> 02:33:25,590
comment, which seems interesting
to me anyway, but Trump.

2573
02:33:25,890 --> 02:33:29,790
So when you look at Bob
Woodward's book, at least the

2574
02:33:29,790 --> 02:33:32,490
parts that we know have been
reported about, you break down

2575
02:33:32,490 --> 02:33:34,440
some of the specific claims.
It's interesting Defense

2576
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:37,770
Secretary James Mattis denies
that he compared President Trump

2577
02:33:37,770 --> 02:33:40,800
to a fifth or sixth grader,
Chief of Staff John Kelly denied

2578
02:33:40,800 --> 02:33:43,830
calling the president unhinged
or an idiot. The President

2579
02:33:43,830 --> 02:33:48,630
appears to have accepted those
denials. But how do these kinds

2580
02:33:48,630 --> 02:33:52,770
of disclosures and these these
assertions, and in this book,

2581
02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:58,080
how do they complicate the
ability of Jim Mattis and Chief

2582
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:01,860
of Staff John Kelly to do their
jobs? Sabrina? Well, obviously

2583
02:34:01,860 --> 02:34:06,960
there is a breakdown of trust.
Presumably, no, no, John Kelly

2584
02:34:06,960 --> 02:34:10,080
has had to refute multiple
reports about what he has said

2585
02:34:10,260 --> 02:34:13,440
about the president, the ways in
which he has characterized him

2586
02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:16,500
and they have continued to be
able to weather those

2587
02:34:16,500 --> 02:34:21,210
controversies. But do recall
that when Steve Bannon made

2588
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:25,830
derogatory comments about the
president's son, and the meeting

2589
02:34:25,830 --> 02:34:29,790
at Trump Tower with the Russians
in Michael Wolf's book that led

2590
02:34:29,790 --> 02:34:34,320
to a very public and dramatic
rift between the President and

2591
02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:38,070
the former chief strategist in
his White House. Now that was

2592
02:34:38,070 --> 02:34:40,860
then in this is now Steve Bannon
is of course different than John

2593
02:34:40,860 --> 02:34:44,880
Kelly and James Mattis, who have
been a lot more enduring in

2594
02:34:44,880 --> 02:34:48,750
their ability to continue and
carry out their jobs. But we'll

2595
02:34:48,750 --> 02:34:52,320
see if there are going to be any
ramifications from these

2596
02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:55,710
comments that that they say they
haven't made, but again, it's

2597
02:34:55,710 --> 02:34:58,320
anyone's guess you'll recall
also Rex Tillerson, it was

2598
02:34:58,320 --> 02:35:01,140
reported that he referred to the
president As an idiot, and that

2599
02:35:01,140 --> 02:35:04,560
was something that he did not
necessarily deny, and that did

2600
02:35:04,590 --> 02:35:07,710
continue that did or continue
and erode their relationship and

2601
02:35:07,710 --> 02:35:10,290
eventually was part of the
reason why he was forced out of

2602
02:35:10,290 --> 02:35:10,740
the job.

2603
02:35:11,580 --> 02:35:14,670
Now, I want to just say that I
don't believe these guys are

2604
02:35:14,670 --> 02:35:17,190
lying when they said they never
said these things. I doubt if

2605
02:35:17,190 --> 02:35:20,670
they did, because the things
that most those guys are quoted

2606
02:35:20,670 --> 02:35:22,590
as saying is right off the Trump
rotation.

2607
02:35:23,400 --> 02:35:25,500
Yeah, someone said him on TV.

2608
02:35:26,370 --> 02:35:29,940
Yeah, but not necessarily Kelly,
and then they both denied it and

2609
02:35:29,940 --> 02:35:33,510
Tillerson would never deny it.
He just said he wasn't going to

2610
02:35:33,510 --> 02:35:35,910
talk about it. So Tillerson
probably did call Trump an

2611
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:39,300
idiot. That's what I have to
assume. Now the last thing I

2612
02:35:39,300 --> 02:35:44,280
have for this whole thing,
series is John carry on. The

2613
02:35:44,310 --> 02:35:48,840
clips aren't too long. But
they're very short. John Kerry's

2614
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:52,740
the unluckiest guy in the world.
He looked at that head. Well,

2615
02:35:52,740 --> 02:35:54,930
besides his head and the fact
that he's got those weird

2616
02:35:54,930 --> 02:35:58,620
eyebrows at that flake, and I
think he's watermelon head. He's

2617
02:35:58,620 --> 02:36:03,120
a lizard. And he just came out
with a book.

2618
02:36:03,390 --> 02:36:07,200
Oh, he has a book to John,
where's our books book? He's

2619
02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:09,630
like, no one's gonna buy his
book because it can't get any

2620
02:36:09,630 --> 02:36:13,740
publicity. So they didn't drag
him on that the only reason he

2621
02:36:13,740 --> 02:36:16,770
showed up on the morning show,
and they preface it I don't have

2622
02:36:16,770 --> 02:36:19,410
the clip of the preface, but
they but John Dickerson,

2623
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:25,440
prefaced it by saying, Simon and
Schuster is owned by CBS and

2624
02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:30,810
that's why we've got this guy
on. So really, instead those

2625
02:36:30,810 --> 02:36:32,340
words but he pretty much said
that.

2626
02:36:33,690 --> 02:36:37,020
He fought in gentleman's time
has expired that he fought in

2627
02:36:37,020 --> 02:36:39,480
the Vietnam War and became an
anti war activist when he

2628
02:36:39,480 --> 02:36:42,810
returned home in 1984. He was
elected to the US Senate, he

2629
02:36:42,810 --> 02:36:45,120
served for 28 years, including
his chairman of the Senate

2630
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:48,060
Foreign Relations Committee.
Most recently, he served as

2631
02:36:48,060 --> 02:36:50,520
President Obama's Secretary of
State, he was the chief

2632
02:36:50,520 --> 02:36:53,220
negotiator of the Paris Climate
Agreement and the Iran nuclear

2633
02:36:53,220 --> 02:36:56,940
deal. Kerry's new book is called
every day is extra. He shares

2634
02:36:56,940 --> 02:36:59,880
his life story from growing up
as the son of a diplomat to

2635
02:36:59,880 --> 02:37:03,660
becoming America's top diplomat
decades later. Every day is

2636
02:37:03,660 --> 02:37:07,320
extra is published by Simon and
Schuster, a division of CBS. Mr.

2637
02:37:07,320 --> 02:37:08,910
Secretary, good morning. Thank
you, John.

2638
02:37:09,360 --> 02:37:12,390
That's under the guise of
disclaimer, like we're forced to

2639
02:37:12,390 --> 02:37:14,250
do this. Here with You.

2640
02:37:14,340 --> 02:37:18,600
Speaking of the presidents and
presidency, you had an interview

2641
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:19,650
on Face The Nation to which

2642
02:37:19,650 --> 02:37:22,830
the Carolina Second John, was
this at two in the morning on C

2643
02:37:22,830 --> 02:37:24,510
and C is C BSN.

2644
02:37:24,990 --> 02:37:28,710
No, no, this is not CBS. And
this is the morning show. Oh,

2645
02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:31,470
I thought it was the online
thing. Oh, I'm sorry. It was

2646
02:37:31,470 --> 02:37:32,730
the other. Okay. President

2647
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:35,940
President Trump tweeted about
you passively running for

2648
02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:40,560
president and he said, I should
only be so lucky. What's your

2649
02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:41,430
response to that?

2650
02:37:41,910 --> 02:37:45,960
Well, you know, the President,
I'm really not gonna get into a

2651
02:37:45,960 --> 02:37:48,600
back and forth on tweets. You
know, I could give him a

2652
02:37:48,600 --> 02:37:56,130
nickname agent orange or
something and blow

2653
02:37:56,130 --> 02:37:59,760
for First of all, I'm just
giving you just, I can't give

2654
02:37:59,760 --> 02:38:03,870
anything yet. But to catch this,
that this guy has a book out.

2655
02:38:03,870 --> 02:38:07,530
And the reason you write a book
is to run for president. And he

2656
02:38:07,530 --> 02:38:11,490
can't even he has to go up on
his you know, the publishers

2657
02:38:11,490 --> 02:38:14,760
have to make sure he gets some
airtime. This is this is I feel

2658
02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:18,960
bad for him is that it's really
sad. And then we'll have a good

2659
02:38:18,990 --> 02:38:22,980
a good call image in orange. Oh,
my goodness, people who have

2660
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:28,680
I could call, I can call him a
big jerk a guy's ugly bastard.

2661
02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:29,280
But I won't

2662
02:38:29,369 --> 02:38:30,629
push the grabber to

2663
02:38:30,630 --> 02:38:33,780
get into a back and forth on
tweets. I could give him a

2664
02:38:33,780 --> 02:38:37,950
nickname, Agent Orange or
something. And I could get back

2665
02:38:37,950 --> 02:38:41,760
and forth. But it doesn't take
you anywhere. The President uses

2666
02:38:41,790 --> 02:38:46,620
tweets as a weapon of mass
destruction. And he obviously

2667
02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:50,670
has exposed the world to the
potential of a weapon of mass

2668
02:38:50,670 --> 02:38:51,960
destruction and Iran,

2669
02:38:51,990 --> 02:38:55,530
hello 2016 called they want
their memes back John Kerry,

2670
02:38:55,680 --> 02:38:58,140
by pulling out of a deal that
everybody in the world support.

2671
02:38:58,140 --> 02:39:02,670
So I, I'd rather stay on the
substance because he wants to

2672
02:39:02,670 --> 02:39:05,490
distract it and get into a
fight. I want to stay on the

2673
02:39:05,490 --> 02:39:05,700
rails.

2674
02:39:06,150 --> 02:39:08,040
Let's not miss his point,
though, because he's saying he

2675
02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:09,930
hopes you run because he
believes he could beat you is

2676
02:39:09,930 --> 02:39:11,340
what he's saying what he says
that

2677
02:39:11,580 --> 02:39:14,910
look, nothing. He says can you
can believe and you always know

2678
02:39:14,910 --> 02:39:17,520
there's a different motive. So
let's not even get into that

2679
02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:22,140
what's important is, frankly, in
my book, I lay out the challenge

2680
02:39:22,140 --> 02:39:25,800
to our country. It's not it's
not a policy book. That's what's

2681
02:39:25,800 --> 02:39:29,760
important. It's a story of a
life that shows how we can

2682
02:39:29,760 --> 02:39:32,340
confront the challenge that we
face in America today.

2683
02:39:32,490 --> 02:39:37,230
Oh, that sounds like a snooze.
wants to read that book.

2684
02:39:37,260 --> 02:39:39,660
Nobody's gonna read this gonna
be a big show me

2685
02:39:39,660 --> 02:39:42,450
where someone called Trump a
moron behind his back. That's a

2686
02:39:42,450 --> 02:39:42,930
book.

2687
02:39:43,470 --> 02:39:46,830
Now, this was just a kicker here
that I thought was worth

2688
02:39:46,920 --> 02:39:51,720
clipping out. And to me it was
like the eye roll or of the hold

2689
02:39:51,750 --> 02:39:53,100
of the whole deal.

2690
02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:55,920
And that's that's really more
important, frankly, than

2691
02:39:56,340 --> 02:39:59,400
listening to a guy who has
President United States can't

2692
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:01,590
even go to the funeral of a war
hero

2693
02:40:02,130 --> 02:40:05,070
was uninvited that's what I'm
thinking he

2694
02:40:05,070 --> 02:40:08,640
was not invited. He was
uninvited he was specifically

2695
02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:13,440
told not to go. And so he gets
slammed by this jerk.

2696
02:40:13,470 --> 02:40:16,740
It's like 24 hours since John
McCain was put to death

2697
02:40:21,360 --> 02:40:24,270
the guy says he can't even go to
the funeral. What does this get

2698
02:40:24,270 --> 02:40:27,810
that out of touch that he didn't
know what the situation was? I

2699
02:40:27,810 --> 02:40:29,550
believe that believe he didn't
know don't

2700
02:40:29,550 --> 02:40:36,030
newsflash. They're all out of
touch feel my lovin? So how do

2701
02:40:36,030 --> 02:40:37,830
you tie this into Chuck Todd's
article?

2702
02:40:38,520 --> 02:40:41,370
You can do it. All right. Well,

2703
02:40:41,610 --> 02:40:46,440
and, and there's a reason for
doing this. It was September 11

2704
02:40:46,470 --> 02:40:49,230
is coming up in five days, and
you're going to be eating it'd

2705
02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:53,160
be crushed to death with
September 11 stuff and truth or

2706
02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:57,660
stuff and you name it. We're not
going to do that on the no

2707
02:40:57,660 --> 02:41:01,050
agenda show. But I do have some
history, some recent history

2708
02:41:01,050 --> 02:41:03,990
that I think is worth listening
to, to understand the

2709
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:07,500
interaction between government
intelligence sources, and the

2710
02:41:07,500 --> 02:41:11,400
media and people who seriously
are considered journalists, New

2711
02:41:11,400 --> 02:41:15,750
York Times journalist and are
performing actual journalism.

2712
02:41:16,770 --> 02:41:20,730
Now the the reason I got on this
is because somehow someone

2713
02:41:20,760 --> 02:41:23,430
tweeted a link about this
article that Chuck Todd had

2714
02:41:23,430 --> 02:41:26,400
written Apparently, he's also a
guest editor at The Atlantic,

2715
02:41:26,400 --> 02:41:29,130
which I don't know what guest
editor means if he has time for

2716
02:41:29,130 --> 02:41:33,300
that. And you know, he's deemed
to be hosted Meet the Press as

2717
02:41:33,300 --> 02:41:37,320
prestigious spot. Now he's seen
as someone that Tim Russert

2718
02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:41,100
rubbed off on him. And in his
article, which I presume you

2719
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:43,470
read, John, I'm sure your lip
Joes have been talking about

2720
02:41:43,470 --> 02:41:46,890
it. No, no, no, I'm

2721
02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:49,020
just it's all news to me. I'm
listening intently. Oh,

2722
02:41:49,020 --> 02:41:52,290
it's titled it's time for the
press to stop complaining and to

2723
02:41:52,290 --> 02:41:53,310
start fighting

2724
02:41:53,310 --> 02:41:54,060
back.

2725
02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:57,120
Oh, yeah. No, I knew about this.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I did read it.

2726
02:41:57,210 --> 02:42:02,310
And the subhead is a nearly 50
year campaign of vilification

2727
02:42:02,310 --> 02:42:05,910
inspired by Fox News is Roger
Ailes, always easy to blame the

2728
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:10,140
dead guy has left many Americans
distrustful of media outlets.

2729
02:42:10,290 --> 02:42:15,240
Now journalists need to speak up
for their work. And paragraph

2730
02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:18,360
two, there's a new kind of
campaign underway one that most

2731
02:42:18,390 --> 02:42:21,030
of my colleagues and I have
never publicly reported on,

2732
02:42:21,060 --> 02:42:24,990
never fully analyzed and never
fully acknowledged the campaign

2733
02:42:24,990 --> 02:42:29,220
to destroy the legitimate
legitimacy of the American news

2734
02:42:29,220 --> 02:42:33,420
media. And so this whole thing
goes on about how you know,

2735
02:42:33,450 --> 02:42:36,690
everyone's a student of Roger
Ailes, and it's all discredit

2736
02:42:36,690 --> 02:42:40,620
and family affair and balances.
It's all tricks and Trump is out

2737
02:42:40,620 --> 02:42:45,570
to destroy everything. And it's
1984, George Orwell, everything,

2738
02:42:45,570 --> 02:42:48,600
everything's in there. And we're
journos. And we're trying to

2739
02:42:48,600 --> 02:42:52,740
save you marca screw America,
the world. We're trying to save

2740
02:42:52,740 --> 02:42:56,490
you. And of course, we're
journos. We're live Joe's.

2741
02:42:56,580 --> 02:42:59,250
Sometimes we get things wrong,
we always correct and take

2742
02:42:59,250 --> 02:43:03,210
responsibility. Oh, they don't
owe real really, Chuck Todd is

2743
02:43:03,210 --> 02:43:06,180
what I thought. So I decided to
pull two clips from the

2744
02:43:06,180 --> 02:43:09,570
archives, the total will be
about seven minutes of airtime

2745
02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:13,200
unless we interrupt them, which
we may want to and the first one

2746
02:43:13,500 --> 02:43:20,190
is from 2016. This is September
11 2016. So we have not had the

2747
02:43:20,190 --> 02:43:23,670
election yet. And Paul
Wolfowitz, who was the deputy

2748
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:28,260
Department Deputy Secretary of
Defense during 911 is on the

2749
02:43:28,260 --> 02:43:33,060
show. Now what you'd expect is
for Chuck Todd to say, you know,

2750
02:43:33,060 --> 02:43:35,760
man, we really all got this
wrong with the weapons of mass

2751
02:43:35,760 --> 02:43:40,980
destruction with the aluminum
tubes. And you know, and as

2752
02:43:40,980 --> 02:43:44,430
journalists, we feel pretty
screwed. And you know, it's like

2753
02:43:44,430 --> 02:43:47,370
we're really sorry, all these
people died because we got it

2754
02:43:47,370 --> 02:43:51,780
wrong in Iraq. Is there any of
that? No, he all he does is

2755
02:43:51,780 --> 02:43:55,770
deflects blames everybody else.
So does Wolfowitz, by the way.

2756
02:43:56,040 --> 02:43:59,820
And so after we listen to Chuck
Todd, not taking responsibility,

2757
02:43:59,910 --> 02:44:04,590
not apologizing, blaming his
inside sources, then we'll go to

2758
02:44:04,590 --> 02:44:08,010
the genesis of the weapons of
mass destruction with old John

2759
02:44:08,010 --> 02:44:12,060
Stuart interview, which will
remind you how refreshing Jon

2760
02:44:12,060 --> 02:44:16,350
Stewart was in 2015, before
Trump was on the scene, and

2761
02:44:16,350 --> 02:44:20,580
before everyone lost their mind.
So first, Chuck Todd with Paul

2762
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:21,270
Wolfowitz.

2763
02:44:21,300 --> 02:44:24,720
Let me go back to this issue
here, where a 911 it was mostly

2764
02:44:24,720 --> 02:44:28,620
Saudis, Saudi nationals that
flew those planes into those

2765
02:44:28,620 --> 02:44:32,070
towers. Nobody from Iraq, and
there's a lot of people that

2766
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:35,460
look today and go, Why was that
our first action? Why was that?

2767
02:44:35,460 --> 02:44:37,710
Yes, we went into Afghanistan.
But why was that our first

2768
02:44:37,710 --> 02:44:40,560
question and why didn't we ever
hold Saudi Arabia accountable?

2769
02:44:41,100 --> 02:44:43,860
Yeah. Why didn't you report on a
Chuck Todd, you could make a

2770
02:44:43,860 --> 02:44:47,550
case that a lot more Saudis were
fuel were funding and fueling

2771
02:44:47,550 --> 02:44:50,850
these terrorist attacks. You
know what Saudi money and things

2772
02:44:50,850 --> 02:44:52,980
like that, then anybody in Iraq?
Look,

2773
02:44:52,980 --> 02:44:55,770
there is a big problem with what
the Saudis have been doing and

2774
02:44:55,770 --> 02:44:59,310
propagating extremists versions
of Islam. And I hope that people

2775
02:44:59,310 --> 02:45:01,800
are right when they say either
new Crown Prince or deputy crown

2776
02:45:01,800 --> 02:45:04,860
prince, what concerned us about
Iraq and people want to forget

2777
02:45:04,860 --> 02:45:07,620
this, but everybody believed in
Saddam was doing his best to

2778
02:45:07,620 --> 02:45:10,890
convince us that he had weapons
of mass destruction. In fact, we

2779
02:45:10,890 --> 02:45:14,850
knew he had. He had previously
had anthrax. He had previously

2780
02:45:14,850 --> 02:45:17,790
had sarin. He was previously
working on nuclear weapons.

2781
02:45:17,970 --> 02:45:21,000
And that, of course, is where we
had the phony baloney anthrax

2782
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:23,670
scare in Florida, because that's
what we all knew. That's what we

2783
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:27,060
all reported on because the
inside Intel sources had told us

2784
02:45:27,060 --> 02:45:29,490
and he made it clear after he
was captured that he intended to

2785
02:45:29,490 --> 02:45:31,830
start all of those programs
again, once the sanctions were

2786
02:45:31,830 --> 02:45:35,430
lifted. He wasn't real danger.
And that's why there was a focus

2787
02:45:35,430 --> 02:45:35,580
and

2788
02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:41,910
stop it. Saddam was denying that
he said he says that Saddam was

2789
02:45:41,910 --> 02:45:44,610
making everyone think he had the
weapons. He was going out of his

2790
02:45:44,610 --> 02:45:49,050
way to deny it. Let the
inspectors What's he talking

2791
02:45:49,050 --> 02:45:49,560
about?

2792
02:45:49,590 --> 02:45:52,800
He's lying. And Chuck Todd is
right there letting him blame

2793
02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:53,310
other people

2794
02:45:53,310 --> 02:45:55,320
who was captured that he
intended to start all over

2795
02:45:55,320 --> 02:45:56,340
again, by the way, where's

2796
02:45:56,340 --> 02:45:59,220
the journalist Chuck Todd saying
what you just said he's not

2797
02:45:59,220 --> 02:45:59,400
there

2798
02:45:59,400 --> 02:46:02,250
programs. Again, once the
sanctions were lifted, he was a

2799
02:46:02,250 --> 02:46:05,220
real danger. And that's why
there was a focus on weapons of

2800
02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:08,940
mass destruction. And people say
after the fact that bush lied

2801
02:46:08,970 --> 02:46:11,760
and got us into a war. He wasn't
lying. He was saying what

2802
02:46:11,970 --> 02:46:13,020
everyone believes

2803
02:46:13,050 --> 02:46:16,410
who lied. Is it bad
intelligence? You know, somebody

2804
02:46:16,440 --> 02:46:17,640
got us into this.

2805
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:20,940
Now, listen to Chuck Todd, what
he's doing like he had no role

2806
02:46:20,940 --> 02:46:25,020
in this. And then was it bad,
but everybody believed it? Oh,

2807
02:46:25,020 --> 02:46:28,110
you mean like Russian collusion?
Everybody believed it? It was

2808
02:46:28,110 --> 02:46:31,170
everyone it was we knew it. We
knew. Yeah, this is my point,

2809
02:46:31,200 --> 02:46:31,860
obviously. And

2810
02:46:31,860 --> 02:46:34,560
somebody convinced the United
States Congress that weapons of

2811
02:46:34,560 --> 02:46:38,280
mass destruction were imminent
in Iraq, which is why so many

2812
02:46:38,670 --> 02:46:40,590
Democrats and Republicans voted
for this war.

2813
02:46:40,590 --> 02:46:43,410
So they lied. I think they're
written liars, Saddam Hussein,

2814
02:46:43,410 --> 02:46:46,950
who lied about what he had. And
we discovered he had more later,

2815
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:50,130
it seems he was lying, that he
had more than you really did

2816
02:46:50,130 --> 02:46:53,220
have, because he wanted to
supposedly deceive the Iranians

2817
02:46:53,400 --> 02:46:56,100
fumble through although he had
more than he said he had but

2818
02:46:56,100 --> 02:46:57,330
something Yeah, okay.

2819
02:46:57,660 --> 02:47:00,660
The fact is every intelligence
service in the world, not just

2820
02:47:00,660 --> 02:47:03,870
the Americans, the British, the
German everybody, the French

2821
02:47:03,900 --> 02:47:04,680
countries that have put

2822
02:47:04,680 --> 02:47:07,800
97% of all intelligence sources

2823
02:47:07,800 --> 02:47:10,320
in the war, all believed that he
had weapons of mass destruction.

2824
02:47:10,350 --> 02:47:10,740
Gee,

2825
02:47:10,770 --> 02:47:14,010
are you do you? Are you now
concerned that this,

2826
02:47:14,280 --> 02:47:17,520
essentially, we were wrong? And
if you think about the public,

2827
02:47:17,550 --> 02:47:20,520
have you ever considered we were
wrong? Not Chuck Todd got it

2828
02:47:20,520 --> 02:47:23,430
wrong? No, no, we were wrong,
because that's all your

2829
02:47:23,430 --> 02:47:26,610
reporting is Chuck Todd is just
parroting what you're told by

2830
02:47:26,610 --> 02:47:29,220
your reliable sources, and it
got a lot of people killed.

2831
02:47:29,250 --> 02:47:33,180
Are you do you? Are you now
concerned that this, essentially

2832
02:47:33,180 --> 02:47:37,080
we were wrong. And if you think
about the public's lack of trust

2833
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:40,260
for government right now, that's
one of the reasons that's one of

2834
02:47:40,260 --> 02:47:42,480
the things over the last 15
years when you talk about Wall

2835
02:47:42,480 --> 02:47:46,620
Street's inability to be
truthful to us, and that now has

2836
02:47:46,620 --> 02:47:48,030
undermine trust in government.

2837
02:47:49,290 --> 02:47:51,600
You believe undermine trust in
government? And then remember,

2838
02:47:51,600 --> 02:47:53,340
this is just before the
election? Wait,

2839
02:47:53,610 --> 02:47:56,310
what what's it got? What's
trusting government got to Wall

2840
02:47:56,310 --> 02:47:59,250
Street being dishonest within?
What's he talking about Wall

2841
02:47:59,250 --> 02:48:01,320
Street? Let's listen to that.
Again,

2842
02:48:01,320 --> 02:48:03,570
I wasn't focusing on the Wall
Street part. Let me listen, lack

2843
02:48:03,570 --> 02:48:09,900
of trust for government right
now. back a little further. He

2844
02:48:09,900 --> 02:48:10,470
wanted to

2845
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:14,790
supposedly deceive the Iranians.
The fact is every intelligence

2846
02:48:14,790 --> 02:48:17,160
service in the world, not just
the Americans, the British, the

2847
02:48:17,160 --> 02:48:20,880
Germans. The French countries
that oppose us in the war all

2848
02:48:20,880 --> 02:48:23,190
believe that he had weapons of
mass destruction. Do you?

2849
02:48:23,220 --> 02:48:27,210
Are you do you? Are you now
concerned that this, essentially

2850
02:48:27,210 --> 02:48:31,080
we were wrong? And if you think
about the public's lack of trust

2851
02:48:31,080 --> 02:48:34,260
for government right now, that's
one of the reasons that's one of

2852
02:48:34,260 --> 02:48:36,480
the things over the last 15
years, we can talk about Wall

2853
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:40,650
Street's inability to be
truthful to us, and that now has

2854
02:48:40,650 --> 02:48:42,030
undermine trust in government.

2855
02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:45,450
Yeah, he's just just whatever
he's doing. He's not saying,

2856
02:48:45,540 --> 02:48:49,050
hey, maybe the trust in the
media was undermined because you

2857
02:48:49,050 --> 02:48:52,680
kept telling us one thing, and
it turned out not to be true. We

2858
02:48:52,680 --> 02:48:55,620
did bother looking into it on
the eve of the election where

2859
02:48:55,620 --> 02:48:59,580
you everyone said, 95 98%,
Hillary Clinton's going to win?

2860
02:48:59,640 --> 02:49:02,490
Do you find it strange, Chuck
Todd, that there's the loss of

2861
02:49:02,490 --> 02:49:04,470
faith and trust in the media?

2862
02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:06,330
Do you believe that? Look, I

2863
02:49:06,330 --> 02:49:10,260
think it's done a lot of harm.
But I think in fact, stating

2864
02:49:10,260 --> 02:49:13,410
falsehoods, like saying that
bush lied about it is does a lot

2865
02:49:13,410 --> 02:49:16,740
of harm as well. I believe that
if we had had a better strategy

2866
02:49:16,740 --> 02:49:19,650
in Iraq, from the beginning lied
about it if the surge type

2867
02:49:19,650 --> 02:49:22,020
strategy had been implemented
from the beginning, Iraq would

2868
02:49:22,020 --> 02:49:24,210
look very different today,
people would see the whole issue

2869
02:49:24,210 --> 02:49:25,140
in a very different light.

2870
02:49:25,710 --> 02:49:32,220
Yeah, I know. Okay, so now
again, this was from 2016, just

2871
02:49:32,220 --> 02:49:36,420
before the current election. Now
we're gonna go back and this is

2872
02:49:36,420 --> 02:49:38,790
my final clip. And this is, you
know, this is really it's a

2873
02:49:38,790 --> 02:49:41,700
piece of history, but it was
also so refreshing to hear Jon

2874
02:49:41,700 --> 02:49:45,240
Stewart not be a blistering
idiot, and believing in what the

2875
02:49:45,240 --> 02:49:49,500
intelligence sources said he is
completely undressing Judith

2876
02:49:49,500 --> 02:49:52,380
Miller of The New York Times.
Judith Miller is the one who

2877
02:49:52,380 --> 02:49:55,770
wrote every article about the
weapons of mass destruction. She

2878
02:49:55,770 --> 02:49:59,250
was getting it spoon fed from
the intelligence sources, and

2879
02:49:59,250 --> 02:50:04,230
she's old Only blaming them no
responsibility on the part of

2880
02:50:04,230 --> 02:50:07,230
the New York Times. But What's
lovely about this clip is that

2881
02:50:07,230 --> 02:50:13,170
you understand. Welcome to Mr.
Rogers Neighborhood. This clip

2882
02:50:13,170 --> 02:50:16,710
is lovely. It's what is really
funny. What is lovely about this

2883
02:50:16,710 --> 02:50:23,040
clip is that Stuart is really
easy like no agenda, the way he

2884
02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:27,630
used to be, before he got
blindsided by, you know, Hillary

2885
02:50:27,630 --> 02:50:30,030
not winning or whatever his
problem was, and whatever

2886
02:50:30,030 --> 02:50:32,940
everyone's problem is, this is
how it used to be on The Daily

2887
02:50:32,940 --> 02:50:35,550
Show. And we loved it with
Judith Miller, the woman who

2888
02:50:35,550 --> 02:50:38,430
wrote about the weapons of mass
destruction, the aluminum tubes,

2889
02:50:38,760 --> 02:50:41,490
and she's they're promoting her
book and he is going to pull her

2890
02:50:41,490 --> 02:50:42,480
apart. You

2891
02:50:42,479 --> 02:50:46,859
wrote an article, this is a
September 8 2011. Right? This

2892
02:50:46,859 --> 02:50:51,659
was the big article, it said,
USS Hussein intensifies quest

2893
02:50:51,659 --> 02:50:52,859
for a bomb parks.

2894
02:50:52,890 --> 02:50:56,880
You mean Michael Gordon, and I
wrote an article. Sure.

2895
02:50:58,770 --> 02:51:02,190
front page of The New York Times
next to a giant picture of never

2896
02:51:02,190 --> 02:51:05,430
forget 911 It was right around
the first there it is, in memory

2897
02:51:05,430 --> 02:51:12,060
of 911. Front Page. The
information came from the Bush

2898
02:51:12,060 --> 02:51:13,230
administration. Yes.

2899
02:51:14,490 --> 02:51:19,290
Broadly speaking, yes. It came
from intelligence analysts and

2900
02:51:19,320 --> 02:51:21,750
people in the Bush
administration. Yes. Okay. For

2901
02:51:21,750 --> 02:51:24,900
the Bush administration. Right.
Right. So you write this

2902
02:51:24,900 --> 02:51:29,070
article, right. And you have
somebody named David Albright,

2903
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:33,930
who is your source for whether
or not this claim is wrong?

2904
02:51:34,619 --> 02:51:38,489
No, he wasn't a source. He's an
expert. He's an expert.

2905
02:51:38,520 --> 02:51:41,580
Okay. And he's the guy you rely
on and trust to tell you if this

2906
02:51:41,580 --> 02:51:42,300
is why not right?

2907
02:51:42,330 --> 02:51:45,900
No one of several experts
because opinion is divided. And

2908
02:51:45,900 --> 02:51:47,610
you have to ask a lot of
different people.

2909
02:51:47,640 --> 02:51:50,190
He's the expert that you write
in your book that you trust that

2910
02:51:50,190 --> 02:51:51,690
you're desperately trying to
reach?

2911
02:51:51,720 --> 02:51:54,420
Yes, I was desperately trying to
reach him. Yes. couldn't reach

2912
02:51:54,420 --> 02:51:57,840
him. So you just went with it?
Well, because we had other

2913
02:51:57,840 --> 02:51:59,760
sources with the other sources
the guy

2914
02:51:59,760 --> 02:52:02,640
and push his office Joseph, who
you didn't know

2915
02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:06,210
who might name in the book, but
not in the article. No, but I

2916
02:52:06,210 --> 02:52:09,360
named Charles Dilfer in the
Article Nine named who was the

2917
02:52:09,360 --> 02:52:13,020
chief weapons inspector. And we
named Alfred Shalabi, and said

2918
02:52:13,020 --> 02:52:16,110
that he was the man who wanted
to take us to war, right so that

2919
02:52:16,110 --> 02:52:20,820
you could evaluate the
information and we had to spread

2920
02:52:20,820 --> 02:52:23,250
that information. We had
reported that many times.

2921
02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:28,410
We know we're paying them. So
we're paying or the Bush

2922
02:52:28,410 --> 02:52:31,050
administration is paying these
guys to spread information about

2923
02:52:31,050 --> 02:52:34,620
Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass
destruction. At the same time,

2924
02:52:34,620 --> 02:52:38,310
this is happening. Dick Cheney
is going on television in August

2925
02:52:38,310 --> 02:52:40,290
and saying there's the nuclear
program. There's all these

2926
02:52:40,290 --> 02:52:43,740
things. And in September, they
begin what's called the White

2927
02:52:43,740 --> 02:52:47,670
House or rock group. Yes. And
that's a group of Karl Rove,

2928
02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:51,390
Karen Hughes and all these
people, Gerson, and their job is

2929
02:52:51,390 --> 02:52:54,480
to sell the war to the American
people, because they're not

2930
02:52:54,480 --> 02:52:54,960
buying it.

2931
02:52:55,470 --> 02:53:00,060
Can I Can I just Yes, please.
Because there was something we

2932
02:53:00,060 --> 02:53:03,690
knew that was new. That was
really spinning up the

2933
02:53:03,690 --> 02:53:06,090
intelligence community. We
didn't know what it was sound

2934
02:53:06,090 --> 02:53:06,840
familiar?

2935
02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:09,270
Oh, something's going on.
Everyone's talking about it.

2936
02:53:09,270 --> 02:53:10,170
Russian collusion.

2937
02:53:10,740 --> 02:53:13,980
So you report that they've got
these tubes. This all bread guy

2938
02:53:13,980 --> 02:53:17,340
never calls you back? No. So you
run with it. Now, there's a

2939
02:53:17,340 --> 02:53:22,560
phrase in your story. On the
eighth there were an unnamed

2940
02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:26,130
sources. We don't want the
smoking gun to be a mushroom

2941
02:53:26,130 --> 02:53:29,250
cloud. Right. Right. That
phrase, do you know where that

2942
02:53:29,250 --> 02:53:30,150
phrase comes from?

2943
02:53:30,630 --> 02:53:33,600
No, because I only know that
Condi Rice repeated it. Right.

2944
02:53:33,630 --> 02:53:37,440
It comes from the White House or
rock group, unless she's in five

2945
02:53:37,470 --> 02:53:40,980
days before you write the
article. But it's a

2946
02:53:40,980 --> 02:53:43,380
very powerful line and explains
their thing

2947
02:53:43,380 --> 02:53:47,940
comes from Gerson. It doesn't
it's a political line, directly

2948
02:53:47,940 --> 02:53:50,730
tied to the White House, you
said the information doesn't

2949
02:53:50,730 --> 02:53:51,360
come from them.

2950
02:53:51,390 --> 02:53:54,690
John, were we not supposed to
report what it was that had the

2951
02:53:54,690 --> 02:53:57,510
community, the intelligence
community, so nervous about

2952
02:53:57,510 --> 02:53:58,170
Russian collusion?

2953
02:53:58,770 --> 02:54:05,070
No. In the context, that this
administration was very clearly

2954
02:54:05,070 --> 02:54:08,880
pushing a narrative. And by
losing sight of that context, by

2955
02:54:08,880 --> 02:54:09,810
not reporting, I

2956
02:54:09,840 --> 02:54:11,760
think we did. Alright, sorry,
Said,

2957
02:54:12,180 --> 02:54:14,010
heartedly disagree with you. Oh,

2958
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:17,460
that's what makes journalism. I
mean, it's actually

2959
02:54:17,460 --> 02:54:21,990
not what makes journalism so
let's continue with. So you

2960
02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:24,810
don't run with you run with the
story. When David Albright

2961
02:54:24,960 --> 02:54:27,060
doesn't call you back, he calls
you back on that Tuesday and

2962
02:54:27,060 --> 02:54:29,520
says there's something wrong
with this, right? These tubes

2963
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:33,900
are not used for that just for
rockets. Right. In your article

2964
02:54:34,020 --> 02:54:37,620
on the 18th, which runs on page
13, not on page one, where and

2965
02:54:37,620 --> 02:54:41,550
it's still I still, I understand
that but it's still entitled

2966
02:54:43,050 --> 02:54:45,690
White House lists or rock steps
to build banned weapons. It's

2967
02:54:45,690 --> 02:54:48,210
still titled something that
seems like because

2968
02:54:48,210 --> 02:54:51,150
the White House had just
released another paper saying we

2969
02:54:51,150 --> 02:54:52,200
need more evidence

2970
02:54:52,679 --> 02:54:57,119
calls you and said this is
wrong, right? Okay. You don't

2971
02:54:57,119 --> 02:54:59,249
put that in that article. Why? I
did

2972
02:54:59,250 --> 02:55:02,190
put it in I said that the
community was divided. I didn't

2973
02:55:02,190 --> 02:55:03,180
quote David O'Brien,

2974
02:55:03,210 --> 02:55:06,570
he said you could quote him by
name. Yes, he did. Why didn't

2975
02:55:06,570 --> 02:55:06,810
you?

2976
02:55:07,020 --> 02:55:14,010
I think the story got cut for
space. But I didn't, you know,

2977
02:55:14,010 --> 02:55:14,490
look,

2978
02:55:14,520 --> 02:55:16,950
so like in your original article
you wrote in there, David

2979
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:18,780
Albright, and they cut it. I
don't take.

2980
02:55:19,080 --> 02:55:21,090
I really don't remember. Because
on that story,

2981
02:55:22,830 --> 02:55:25,980
what you say in the book is I
couldn't remember corroborate

2982
02:55:25,980 --> 02:55:26,100
it.

2983
02:55:26,310 --> 02:55:30,180
That's right, because he said,
these are the labs that have the

2984
02:55:30,180 --> 02:55:33,630
people that have that have a
different view of these two,

2985
02:55:33,660 --> 02:55:39,030
right? And I called, I must have
called 10 or 15 people, and

2986
02:55:39,030 --> 02:55:42,630
nobody would talk about it. And
so I went to David and I said,

2987
02:55:42,780 --> 02:55:46,410
Tell me one person who can
corroborate this, and we'll put

2988
02:55:46,410 --> 02:55:49,740
this, you know, we'll we'll make
the story as long as we possibly

2989
02:55:49,740 --> 02:55:53,010
can and either couldn't or
wouldn't, there was a problem,

2990
02:55:53,010 --> 02:55:56,820
because David, even though he
disagreed about the tubes,

2991
02:55:56,880 --> 02:55:59,220
believed that Saddam had a
nuclear weapons, I

2992
02:55:59,220 --> 02:56:01,980
understand that. But the
standard of proof and all this

2993
02:56:02,040 --> 02:56:07,350
seems much higher on the side of
this is not an issue and they're

2994
02:56:07,350 --> 02:56:10,680
not a threat, and much lower on
the side of your being fed.

2995
02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:13,050
But that's what the intelligence
community began

2996
02:56:14,400 --> 02:56:16,380
feeding feed you, they?

2997
02:56:17,070 --> 02:56:19,290
That's what they believe, John.
All right.

2998
02:56:19,470 --> 02:56:22,140
Well, we're obviously we're
never going to see eye to eye on

2999
02:56:22,140 --> 02:56:27,570
it. I mean, I appreciate you
coming on the program. These

3000
02:56:27,570 --> 02:56:31,950
discussions always make me
incredibly sad, because I feel

3001
02:56:31,950 --> 02:56:36,390
like they they point to
institutional failure at the

3002
02:56:36,390 --> 02:56:40,200
highest levels, and no one
should take responsibility. I

3003
02:56:40,200 --> 02:56:43,830
think they point the buck to
every individual other than

3004
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:44,310
themselves.

3005
02:56:44,340 --> 02:56:46,740
I think she points to
intelligence failures that I

3006
02:56:46,740 --> 02:56:49,890
still worry about, oh, really
day, because we're still relying

3007
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:52,860
on the same intelligence
communities to get information

3008
02:56:52,860 --> 02:56:56,400
about Iran, North Korea,
Pakistan and the other countries

3009
02:56:56,400 --> 02:56:57,480
that we have to deal with.

3010
02:56:57,720 --> 02:57:00,480
Hopefully, given the same
effort, we'll get to invade all

3011
02:57:00,480 --> 02:57:00,870
them show.

3012
02:57:06,900 --> 02:57:10,650
I have to one comment there with
the audience. And you kind of

3013
02:57:10,650 --> 02:57:14,490
laughed at when she said, I
think that was cut for space. Uh

3014
02:57:14,490 --> 02:57:18,570
huh. What happens in these
situations where you have the

3015
02:57:18,570 --> 02:57:23,220
intelligence community, and, and
the coziness that they have with

3016
02:57:23,220 --> 02:57:26,010
the editors of the New York
Times, is you right, and there's

3017
02:57:26,010 --> 02:57:28,020
plenty of his stories, and
there's plenty of stories to

3018
02:57:28,020 --> 02:57:31,830
back this up. What happens is
that she gets the quote from

3019
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:35,670
some guy says, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can quote me. And then he

3020
02:57:35,700 --> 02:57:38,730
immediately calls the editors
through some channel, a back

3021
02:57:38,730 --> 02:57:40,320
channel says, Hey, don't quote
me.

3022
02:57:41,520 --> 02:57:42,240
Exactly.

3023
02:57:42,600 --> 02:57:44,820
Yeah. Oops. And then, okay,
well, we'll

3024
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:48,330
take out and then if she says
anything, you say, Hey, I was

3025
02:57:48,330 --> 02:57:53,610
cut for space. Yeah, exactly. So
she probably did put it in, but

3026
02:57:53,610 --> 02:57:57,210
it was cut for space. And that
was that. Yeah, it was good.

3027
02:57:57,900 --> 02:58:00,300
Well, it's exactly what's going
on now. Nothing changes.

3028
02:58:00,330 --> 02:58:05,550
Yeah. Well, that that is that is
exactly my Well, as you as it

3029
02:58:05,550 --> 02:58:08,490
was obvious. That's my point.
It's like all this belief in the

3030
02:58:08,490 --> 02:58:10,950
intelligence community, and we
have not learned that they

3031
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:14,280
sometimes really get it wrong,
and that might be agendas at

3032
02:58:14,280 --> 02:58:17,970
play. This is the journos. This
is the people who are who we

3033
02:58:17,970 --> 02:58:21,690
need to trust. Chuck Todd should
be ashamed of what he's saying.

3034
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:30,120
It's really a travesty. And
that's why we exist. And there's

3035
02:58:30,120 --> 02:58:32,790
clearly a need for what we do
because people are supporting

3036
02:58:32,790 --> 02:58:35,790
the show. And we've been doing
that for a decade. Despite there

3037
02:58:35,790 --> 02:58:40,080
being more podcasts, more media,
more news than ever. We're still

3038
02:58:40,080 --> 02:58:45,900
here. And we have a special show
on Sunday for y'all. The Divorce

3039
02:58:45,900 --> 02:58:49,260
Act doubleheader. Make sure you
check that out and remember us

3040
02:58:49,260 --> 02:58:54,330
at divorce act.org/na. And the
next time we speak, I will be in

3041
02:58:54,360 --> 02:58:57,390
Italy. Still that'll be next
Thursday and I will remember to

3042
02:58:57,390 --> 02:59:03,990
have the clip of Kamala Harris
and Sheryl Sandberg. Until then,

3043
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:06,750
coming from downtown Austin
capital A drone Star State FEMA

3044
02:59:06,750 --> 02:59:09,420
Region number six on the
governmental maps in the show

3045
02:59:09,420 --> 02:59:14,100
Elementary. In the five by nine
Claudio and the common law condo

3046
02:59:14,100 --> 02:59:15,930
in the morning, everybody, I'm
Adam curry,

3047
02:59:16,020 --> 02:59:19,170
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where time has run out.

3048
02:59:19,200 --> 02:59:20,100
I'm John C. Devorah.

3049
02:59:20,130 --> 02:59:23,760
We return with our Dvorak
doubleheader on Sunday until

3050
02:59:23,760 --> 02:59:57,780
then, adios Mo's. Sephora has
shot

3051
02:59:57,780 --> 03:00:03,330
by early now All right on time.
That's exactly the time it

3052
03:00:03,330 --> 03:00:07,680
shouldn't be coming by 15
minutes after nine

3053
03:00:09,000 --> 03:00:10,110
was gone full tilt,

3054
03:00:10,860 --> 03:00:14,340
and just do that mourn. Not a
foamers delight

3055
03:00:15,870 --> 03:00:19,140
was cool about three trade on
the other track going in the

3056
03:00:19,140 --> 03:00:21,960
same direction it just passed
like we're standing still.

3057
03:00:23,340 --> 03:00:30,180
So cool. You're ready, almost
trying to get over the coolness

3058
03:00:30,180 --> 03:00:34,410
of another train on the track.
And this effort went by and it

3059
03:00:34,410 --> 03:00:40,770
looks like we're standing still
I mean, holy crap, man. That's

3060
03:00:40,770 --> 03:01:00,240
just so cool. Oh man, it's dude
it's not a foamers delight. The

3061
03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:17,520
birthday to you. Happy birthday
to you. Happy birthday. Mr.

3062
03:01:17,520 --> 03:01:34,710
Podcast. Happy Birthday Happy
Birthday Adam Levine.

3063
03:01:39,090 --> 03:01:42,840
So however long people want to
take, we're going to

3064
03:01:43,800 --> 03:01:47,340
because this whole process is
supposed to be a simple one

3065
03:01:47,340 --> 03:01:50,040
where people get to ask
questions, and we get to get

3066
03:01:50,040 --> 03:01:50,580
answered

3067
03:01:51,210 --> 03:01:55,230
is an undermining of the
constitutional role, which we

3068
03:01:55,290 --> 03:01:56,880
all sworn in both on how

3069
03:01:58,440 --> 03:02:02,610
to answer every question about
almost anything he's done in his

3070
03:02:02,610 --> 03:02:03,720
lifetime, I assume.

3071
03:02:04,560 --> 03:02:08,250
But as President Obama famously
said, election elections have

3072
03:02:08,250 --> 03:02:13,380
consequences. But frankly, we're
not here to consider you as the

3073
03:02:13,380 --> 03:02:17,190
president of our neighborhood
Civic Association. To review

3074
03:02:17,190 --> 03:02:18,960
whether you've been a great new
fast

3075
03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:23,070
that should come within time.
Wrote a big book which I will

3076
03:02:23,070 --> 03:02:23,460
never

3077
03:02:23,460 --> 03:02:27,120
eat. I know that he does things
because it's the right thing to

3078
03:02:27,120 --> 03:03:10,830
do. He will grab you be back
talking to you later. Bye It's

3079
03:03:10,830 --> 03:03:25,830
like 24 hours since John McCain
was put to death. mopho.org/n A