Okay, now we'll go on March. Adam curry, John C. Devora.
December 23 2018. This is your award winning give on nation
media assassination episode 1097. This is no agenda, beating
the Zephyr and broadcasting live from the capital the drone Star
state here in downtown Austin J House in the studio in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
in Silicon Valley where I just witnessed the 12 bar coastal
late by an hour going by I'm Jhansi Dvorak, Raglan Buzzkill.
I don't typically do New Year's resolutions. But I think we
should resolve to stop with the Zephyr stuff in 2019.
It's not a week issue.
Oh, I'm sorry. I was just trying to make it the show is trying to
make magnanimous a Show. A show issue. trying to trick me.
I just have this vision of you sitting up there in your office
on the hill. Watching the trains go by it goes one now marking it
down in your little notebook. Definitely the little no
calling and calling income quarters every once in a
while calling and complaints. It was late.
You know I used to calling complaints because there's some
clown some years back maybe we're talking some years back.
Who would love coming through it their freight trains honking the
horn is allowed as they can with there's no crossings there's
nothing honking and honking at three in the morning thinking
that's hilarious. Classic. Doing the same thing if I was
Austin has that too. We have the the trains coming through and
they always are blowing the horn. Yeah, on purpose, of
course.
Especially at three in the morning. There's no reason for
it.
Today's an important day, December 23 2018. Not that you
know it. But there's an important election taking place
today, which kind of fits in with my beat.
Well, then just your beat to discuss I'm
going to discuss it with a quick three clips, the three parter
clip series. Because it makes nothing but sense. What have I
been tracking? I've been tracking Ebola in the Democratic
Republic of Congo. And typically when there's Ebola, the whole
idea is to send in some military troops to keep everything
peaceful and calm, which may have a secondary reason. We
learned recently that the actual area of North was it. The coup
Bhikkhu niku V KU we had already or it was a particular area of
the Democratic Republic of Congo is where pretty much all your
cell phone materials comes from. There's diamonds, there's gold,
there's also a lot of oil. And there's an election that's been
gearing up. And whenever there's elections, we always want to be
involved. And I have a feeling that maybe the Ebola stories is
to just get us ready in case we have to jump in and do something
because there's a big problem with these elections, again
slated for today in the DRC.
This is the infamous voting machine, a touchscreen on which
voters will select their candidate for the election
before a ballot is printed, and put into a ballot box to be
counted manually. The president of the Electoral Commission
claims that this machine will make voting easier for the
population, and at the same time guarantee total transparency.
The ballot boxes just tell the truth, we want the winner to
win, the best of them all must succeed. The machine is set to
annihilate all attempts at cheating, which we unfortunately
witnessed in the 2011 and 2006. Elections is this is what the
machine is here to fix given you the machine at
the Electoral Commission headquarters, as in several
places in Kinshasa, voting machines are displayed so that
anybody can come and experiment with the new technology sector
if I see it.
Now that I've tried it, it looks very easy to me. The question is
now will the uneducated people like our mothers in the villages
know how to use the machines?
With the pole fast approaching, some opposition leaders are
still very unhappy about the use of the machines, which they call
cheating machines.
No machine committed a vote
the voting machines are not reliable way to vote. Sam, why
Congolese people are not used to it Kampala, Sam, it does not
exist in our electoral law either. tabula Klan shows this
way of voting law so that they can cheat and missile Plaza full
Trishy.
So there seems to be some issue with these new voting machines
that were been brought and manufactured by Miru systems to
find South Korean firm. Which leads me to believe there might
be some Chinese stuff in there. But also if you have an Ebola
infested country and area why you're gonna have touch screens,
that seems like exactly The opposite of what you'd want to
do. And then Nikki Haley at the UN had her own issues.
We are deeply concerned about the Election Commission's
insistence on using an electronic voting system that
has never been used in the DRC. Our understanding is that the
commission has never even tested this electronic voting system in
the DRC. But plans to deploy this technology for the first
time on election day. It should go without saying that employing
and unfamiliar technology for the first time during a crucial
election is an enormous risk. It has the potential to seriously
undermine the credibility of elections that so many have
worked hard to see have happened. These elections must
be held by paper ballots. So there is no question by the
Congolese people about the results. The US has no appetite
to support an electronic voting system, except here, of course.
And if if they were made that that's your ISO,
yeah, you're right. It isn't ISO. If it was made by Diebold,
maybe she would have been okay with it. But perhaps the fact
that it comes from South Korea and could have some Chinese
technology in there who, of course, would like to have some
control over the country, seeing as they're the ones in there
getting all the minerals. So what do you do? Well, you do
this, of course,
the first pictures of a burning Election Commission warehouse in
Kinshasa, the capital of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Inside were voting materials destined for centers throughout
the city, a hit of presidential elections on December 23. It
started at about two o'clock in the morning, local time, an
estimated 7000 voting machines were destroyed.
You can't make it up. So I'm not I can't take it much further
than this. I don't know who's behind it. But certainly we're
not happy with the with the voting machines. And that may
have something to do with the outcome and who ultimately is in
control. I think we have no control over this one. We're
just we're just blowing in the wind.
Well, you don't know that.
Well, that's, that's why I always say the Ebola may be
there. So if the wrong person gets elected, which could
happen, then we can send
it it will happen, then we can set our standards, yes,
then we can send in some troops to protect everyone from Ebola.
So it could be a distraction. So because it's nothing in the news
that I've seen, I mean, I had to go to AlJazeera. Where else that
I mean, no US outlets of any significance of reporting or
even on the election really, and certainly,
definitely can't have Nikki Haley saying that voting
machines are no good.
You go it's good enough for us, but not for you in the DRC. Shut
up and give me some minerals from my cell phone.
Yes. Well, we obviously will keep track. This is not going to
be sounds to me. That is borderline, you know, mess. This
is a mess.
It is borderline. Yeah, it's an actual mess.
Good. I'm glad you caught that.
Yeah. So that so the election is today. So who knows, maybe Ebola
will step up today, depending on the outcome? I don't think we
will. I don't think we have an outcome just yet.
But I'll keep an eye on it.
But I've considered one of my beats to be the supreme court
justice picks.
Oh, yes. You mean because you're already counting on Ruth Bader
Ginsburg. No longer serving as a justice.
My mother had cancer and she lived to 90 and she probably had
cancer for I don't know, a long time. Like maybe
my mother had lung cancer.
Just some something. Okay. She was so skinny that the cancer
couldn't thrive. Oh, really? Yeah. Huh. And that's what kept
her going. It's nothing like a cabbage diet. Anyway. The Ruth
Gator. Ruth Gator. Bader Ginsburg seems to have that same
characteristic she's really thin if she had a blood transfusion
or something she'd be she'd be a goner. But he's, you know, still
she's this like she's had lots of different cancers. She's
like, not just someone who's had has some lingering cancer. So I
figure she's got a year
in well, she just being old and tired. How about that? I mean, I
you may want to serve your country but she's I believe
85 Yeah, but she's uh, you know, diehard liberal and I ran.
Let me just say one thing before she dies, because eventually we
all do. There's a lot of good to be said about her. I mean, she
she did do a lot for women. She's Got a very, very
interesting you know she's an important part of the American
experience let me say it before she's gone so you know to say
you know it's easy to say that she falls asleep She's no good
but she has quite a history of that. No, I'm saying it in
general not about you in general. Because I hear a lot of
this I read a lot of give the give the woman a little bit of
respect as she leaves meanwhile, we've
got to pick somebody I do have an essay coming up I've decided
from non now on I'm not putting in the newsletter. I'm sending
him out separately. This will be handicapping the pics give you a
heads up. I do not think Amy Comey Coney Barrett is going to
win anything or get picked. Really. I think that they're
going to probably pick a pick a pick a pick a pack of a woman
and I believe it will be her competition, which is Joan
Larson, John Larson and CO he buries the odds on absolute. If
you wanted to have checkboxes. She is the smartest. She is the
prettiest was the youngest.
Hold on Joan Larson?
I don't I've never even heard of her. Amy Coney Barrett is the
smartest. He is the youngest gummy bear. It's a few years
older. I'm sorry Larson is a few years older Comey Barrett is the
youngest. The problem with Comey Barrett, I believe is in her
presentation we talk about you know, you've on paper. I'm
reminded of our vice president hopeful under the John McCain
administration who I had picked to be picked our friend from
Alaska, yeah, Sarah Palin, she I picked her not ever hearing her.
Ah, yes,
yes. And, and we and we do need to be very specific here. The
American public chooses their elected leaders like we choose
our soap. So it needs to be appealing, the message needs to
be repeated clearly. And often. You will be much wider after you
use me.
Now, only Coney Barrett has the advantages of being the
smartest, she's got great education got great credit. She
has seven children, two of them. She's adopted two kids from
Haiti refugee, she's a she's a saint.
What's wrong with her then John, there's gotta be something
wrong.
Her voice
her voice, she sounds like she's on helium. I have a clip. I want
you to play that I have to tell everybody because they know that
we have doctored our clips occasionally for for a cheap
laugh, not to change the meaning or anything. There is no
doctrine going on with this clip. And I think just because
she doesn't present to her. And she's a professor. But she her
voice is a bit off putting
a when is it proper for a judge to put their religious views
above applying the law?
Thank you, Chairman Grassley? Let me start with your very last
question and say never, it's never appropriate for a judge to
impose that judge's personal convictions, whether they derive
from faith or anywhere else on the law. This article that I
wrote as a law student has gotten a lot of attention since
my nomination. So I'd like the opportunity to put it in
context. I wrote that law review article when I was a third year
law student with one of my professors 20 years ago, it was
a project that he had underway, and he invited me to work on it
with him. And I was complimented that as a student, he thought I
was up to the task of being more than a research assistant. But I
was very much the junior partner and our collaboration. And that
was appropriate given our relative statures. Would I or
could I say that sitting here today that that article, and
it's every particular reflects how I think about these
questions today, with, as you say, the benefit of 20 years of
experience, and also the ability to speak solely in my own voice.
No, it would not.
It doesn't seem that I mean, I get what you're going for, but
the competition has got to be a lot better for this to be a
total game, you know, a a nonstarter.
Larson, I think has the creds to be able to pull this off. She's
got a little more experience on the bench. She's got more
experienced as a litigator. She's got more experience in
general, but again, not quite the voice you want or someone
who's not that I'm going to be picky about this, but I know
that you know, these things do matter. Also, there's a fear
that Amy Kony Barrett has not enough judicial experience.
She's only been on the bench for it since 2017, along with Joan,
but Joan was a was a chief justice before she got On the
bench at one of the states, I think Michigan and she was on
the Supreme Court. The problem they believe is that Barrett,
they don't know if there's if she's going to become another
David Souter, who was a big, you know, big conservative pick by
one of the one of the conservative presidents and
turned out to be this massive liberal career. It could be the
same way he could become a matt, you could just see it in her
way. She thinks that she could become a real killer liberal,
that would be a problem. So they they're not picking her. I'm
John, everybody.
I love I love your mind reading. I'm not saying it's wrong.
Joan Larson as is, I think, a better choice, or not the voice
I'd want to hear. But at least she
can I can I get your quick, quick feedback just because I
had not even heard this name prior to this program. Yeah, if
we were to cast a female justice, she's the one. She is
looking at it. Larson is straight out of central casting.
Okay, let's stop there. I mean, I will make a commentary about
this because Adam and I both have thoughts about appearance.
Ah, from the executive producer, yes. Back not from you know, is
is prettier, and Amy is incredibly telegenic. Joan is
beautiful in a photograph, but she is not nearly as telegenic.
She's actually not telegenic. So there's a little difference
there. But it's beside the point there. Supreme Court justice is
not going to be there never on camera. So what difference does
it make? So let's listen to her answers,
but not to those branches. As I said in the Supreme Court
hearing, judges must be equally independent, independent of the
president who nominates them and the senators who confirmed them.
So justice arson,
I think your voice is really quite masculine.
Please describe what judicial independence means to you. And
tell us whether you have any trouble ruling against a
president who appointed you. Thank you for the question. At
Chairman Grassley,
I would have absolutely no trouble ruling against the
president who appointed me or any successor president as well.
judicial independence means one thing, one very simple thing,
and that is putting the law above everything else, the
statutes passed by this body and the Constitution of the United
States. So I would have absolutely no trouble in deed,
that would be my duty.
We've often heard these words, especially since January, quote,
unquote, now more than ever, we need judges who will be
independent of the president who nominated them. So I'd like to
ask about your nomination and your independence. A lot. Are
much
Now is this a confirmation hearing? For a for different
this for the circuit court circuits?
Yeah, yeah. But the circuit. Also, Barrett got less votes in
the Senate as a confirmation then Larson did. And she's a
stay hater because she's a staunch Catholic. The other
problem is I'm gonna bring this this is the part that that
nobody will discuss because it's like you can't discuss it. Too.
Supreme Court has too many Catholics on it. is almost all
Catholics and in a couple of Jews, that's it. Amy Comey Coney
Barrett is an extreme Catholic. She's like, I would say she's a
charismatic Catholic in the old sense. This woman Larson. I
spent days trying to find out what religion or what religious
affiliation she has. There is none. She's either an atheist
and agnostic, a Wicca or who knows what. Yeah,
that's what she looks like. Nailed it.
Now, and believe me, I did put a little more effort than I should
have. Because I one point I got I said, Wait a minute. I've got
to figure this out. And I went and found all kinds of
documentation for what the religious affiliations are of
all these different people. And she's she's she's not definable.
I've even written to people who wrote some biographies about her
and no, nobody ever wrote me back. Thank you. So that's an
issue because it may turn out that she's, you know, I don't
believe in God or she's an atheist is what I did because of
you. She has a husband is the problem. She's got some
drawbacks. She's got a husband who's a professor of law. This
guy is got to go to the black scraggly goatee, not a nice trim
go to get scraggly go t. A big ponytail go no Oh, yeah,
ponytail, and he wears a bowtie all the time. What does he do?
He's a professor of law and he teaches teaches law and he's got
the bow tie and the ponytail and the spinning you know the Holy
Mises it's like this guy is and they did they do not share
names. She's so she's of the, of the witches giveaway of some
sort. I'm not taking my husband's name, I probably won't
be married to him that long. Why should I? Or something like that
Amy Coney Barrett is married to about Barrett and Kony, his or
her own less old name, da. So there's that. So there we have
this problem. And there's a third party, which I don't have
handy. I'm doing some research on him who is another possible
guy, but I think they're gonna have to put a woman in because
it Ginsburg being a woman. So it's got to be what? It's got to
be one of these two. There's no other real challengers. These
are the two best.
Okay, well, just based on
what I'm seeing, I think I'd had not heard of John Larson even
being in the in the race for this. I hadn't even honestly
considered talking about a replacement for Gainsbourg just
yet.
Yeah, you gotta be ahead of the game. But yeah,
but Larson, you could put her on law and order right now. Boom,
in that done.
She looks the part.
And I think that's that'll do it. And then you see, okay.
Well, while we're on that, then we saw General Mattis resign?
Yes. He clips about that.
Yeah. You want to just talk about his replacement real
quick.
Do you have any any thoughts? I
do. I have I have the military's thoughts.
I looked at Bed Stars and Stripes and Military Times and
looked at what they thought, yeah. I think the guy the best
guy would be the guy who's as the deputy, the guy who was the
executive from Boeing. Right? Who's the deputy.
That's the guy you want. You want that kind of guy because he
keeps the whole thing moving. And, you know, as you can see,
well, maybe we should take a step back. Before we get to
that. What happened the minute Trump said, All right, pulling
out of Syria, pulling out of Afghanistan. Everybody in
Washington, DC, just lost their crap, including fog, and maybe
even especially Fox News. Because oh my god, we're gonna
do this. This is the machine you can you can remove the machine
works. It'll move the machine. And I have a couple of funny
clips about it. Do you want to start with something?
You have a bunch of clips? I got Panetta bitch and
let's do this. Do some bitching. First I what am I start with?
Bitch. Number one. Yeah, this is this is actually Fox. This is I
think Fox and Friends and Sarah Sanders, of course calls it the
President has
been, but I'm sorry. I was just gonna say one thing. That was in
a tweet. Somebody pointed this out. I thought it was great
because Trump has done nothing to change the Republican Party,
but he's done everything to change the Democrat Party. They
are now all war mongers. Yeah,
that's what's Well, okay. Then I'll flip them around. Yes,
warmonger. So we'll start with Nicole Wallace, from MSNBC.
Here's what she had to say.
I mean, Is he someone is depending on me, you're
basically describing a US military that does not listen to
the commander in chief. Is that what's going on? Well, no, I
don't think that they don't listen to him. I think that they
they wonder man, he ordered to transgender. I listen to their
credit. I'm cheered if you're telling me that the military
doesn't listen to him. But I read a lot of quotes. A lot of
senior Pentagon officials who were alarmed by the news who had
the rug pulled who were toxic, are communicated as recently as
yesterday that our commitment was solid. The President seems
to have his foreign policy run through Moscow, or turkey or
other countries.
So she is just cheered. She's cheered. I don't know if you can
be cheered, but she's cheered if the military no longer listens
to the commander in chief. That's, she's cheered by that.
So I guess she likes that. And then we have the fox people just
taking it many steps further.
The President has been talking about this since the campaign.
He brought it up again, eight months ago, six months ago. He's
wanting to bring our troops home. Like our goal and the
President's purpose of continuing to be in Syria was to
defeat ISIS. We've defeated the territorial caliphate 99% of
ISIS has been wiped out of Syria. The President doesn't
want to be in the middle of another civil war in the Middle
East and put American lives on the line for that purpose. He
wants to bring the men and women of our armed forces home and
that's what he pledged to do. And that's exactly what he's
doing. Sarah he's giving
Russia a big win. Vladimir Putin praised him he also is doing
exactly what he criticized President Obama for doing. He
said President Obama is the founder of ISIS. He just
refounded ISIS because he got 30,000
men there and they're striking. You refounded ISIS. This is
fantastic. Everyone wants war apparently in the in the
mainstream media, everybody all sides war, war, war, war war.
Just want war. I don't care. We just we need to be fighting
somewhere. It's no good.
And if you go ahead, it's just ridiculous.
And just this historical context, when Mattis was brought
in to manage the Afghanistan region under that was under
Bush. Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense. When he came in, he
was hated, hated by the left, mainly because this is a news
clip from algae zero, just play a little bit from this must have
been around that little bit later than 2000, maybe 2006 or
something.
This is the man who will take over one of the US military's
most challenging jobs. General James Mattis. And this is what
he's best known for.
That kid a lot of fun to fight him. You know, it's a hell of a
hoot. It's fun to shoot some people I'd be right upon. Yeah,
like brawlin
in announcing his choice of Mattis.
Like I like to shoot him. I love him. No, I like that getting a
brawl and shoot those guys. I don't get it's like a they they
mishandle women, so it's good to go kill him. It was not really
what anyone wanted to hear at the time. At least not on the on
the left. No one really. And now he's a big now. Yeah, now we
forget all that. And we're very good at it. We forget all about
the aihole who want to just go blow people up. And And now, I
also heard that this is a story that I heard is that Mattis had
consultants in the UK who were saying, you know, you could run
for president in 2020. I'm not kidding. And so part of the
issue was that a lot
of drew force star generals would all kind of believe that
maybe because I did it,
right? Well, apparently he had the consultants in the President
got wind up. And he's like, if you wanted to want if you want
to run that's cool, but I can't have you in for two years while
you're ultimately going to run against me. So you gotta go.
That's that's the story I heard from our military intelligence.
That actually makes sense, but I think it's a combination of
things.
Perfect timing, of course, you know, with with the pullout in
Syria, perfect timing?
Well, one is, of course, he wanted to stay in Syria forever.
There's also the issue with the Chief of Staff. He didn't like
Mark Miley, the guy that we like, headed that the army
taking over as the Chief of Staff of the Joint Chiefs. He
wanted David gold fine, who's the Air Force guy and I would
challenge anybody in the military or civilians, whatever
it takes, go onto Wikipedia, look up Miley and look up, go
find and put their bio side by side and ask yourself why
anybody would want gold fine. So there was that there was that
issue? There was the Mylee issue. There's a third issue.
I'm trying to think what it was that he had run in with. I mean,
Mattis was in total disagreement. I'll come up with
it before we're done with our clips, but it wasn't a good
match. To begin with. But let's play the kind of the background
or on Mattis quits leaves snarky note PBS
resignation letter was noteworthy for its absence of
any praise for President Trump. Instead, he cited his
differences with the commander in chief writing, you have the
right to have a secretary whose views are better aligned with
yours. We are going to appoint Mad Dog Mattis as our Secretary
of Defense. The seeds of discord were present when Mr. Trump
announced in 2016 that the retired Four Star Marine General
would run the Pentagon. Mattis has made it known that he hates
the nickname Mad Dog, and after that he repeatedly disagreed
publicly with the president by supporting NATO and other
alliances, criticizing Russian interference in US elections and
opposing the President's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear
deal and transgender military ban. Then came Mr. Trump's
sudden decision this week to withdraw US troops from Syria a
move Mattis strongly disagreed with the White House last night
press secretary Sarah Sanders acknowledged the Rift.
He and the President have a good relationship, but sometimes they
disagree. The President always listens to the members of his
national security team, but at the end of the day, it's the
President's decision to make
Mattis plans to leave the Pentagon at the end of February.
The other little issue I was thinking about, besides the
mark, Miley and all these other disagreements is the Pentagon
budget failed. They tried me the audit, the audit fought it
yesterday. Audit, he failed. Department. He's the head of the
Pentagon. He's the one responsible. He's the one who
didn't get the audit done. Right. Yet another another good
point. And nobody's talking about that.
Well, nobody wants to know about it, including this president. I
don't think he really care. He just wants to make sure we spend
a lot on it and that we're the biggest and the baddest.
So here's a here we have. PBS had a lot of this because Judy
has gone off the rails. I really think that she misses Gwen went
to extreme lengths his island I miss Gwen's balance.
She's got no she's completely unbalanced. She's she's starting
to shake she's, she's really Trump hater. It's unbelievable.
So we have these. We have Panetta and Richard Haass.
So Panetta, former CIA director, former Secretary of Defense for
Obama, yes. And Hoss was
a harsh said today is is been a lot of different things. But
he's the head of the Council on Foreign Relations. Balance.
Yeah.
These these are the guys you want for a balanced story on
PBS.
So let's listen to Panetta on Mattis,
Leon Panetta, to you first, your reaction when you learn that
Secretary Mattis had resigned,
I thought it was a sad day for the nation, to lose an
outstanding defense secretary who was well experienced with
regards to national security policy, and also believed in the
basic principles of, of leadership of strength of our
alliances, understanding who our adversaries are principles that
I think have served this country well since World War Two, to
lose that experience to lose somebody with those principles,
I think, increases the danger in this country of not having the
ability to deal with a lot of danger points in the world
today. And that that concerns me because I think it puts our
Nation at Risk.
So what did he just say other than orange MAN bad? What did he
actually say? Okay, nothing
goes with the follow up that she goes to Haas and asks him
specifically, do you think the nation's at risk and which is
what Panetta said, we're all a risk some for some reason? She
thinks so too. You can tell the way she has to question. Listen
to hos not answer this question in any affirmative way.
Richard Haass, you agree it puts the Nation at Risk? Well, it's
certainly a major loss.
He was experienced, he was sober, he represented
sober, hey, we want our military men drunk. She was
sober. He represented essentially a traditional
foreign policy view for foreign policy. I'll admit my bias, I
think it served this country extraordinarily well, for three
quarters of a century
is a nice, changing. And in fact, he goes on and discusses
this a little bit more. This is Haas now discussing the Trump
pull out of Syria, which is like, again, we're listening to
the head of the Council on Foreign Relations. So he's, you
know, definitely,
he must be against it. Or why everyone's
against it. Everyone's against it. Just check it. Here's what
gets me why, why we were doing there in the first place. But he
pulls the same stunt that these other guys have pulled, we did
it on the last show, I had a clip that was similar to this,
where this is some sort of a Abnegation of our
responsibility, when we're not even supposed to be in Syria was
only going to be a temporary thing to begin with three
months, three months, three months, in and out. Hasn't Yeah,
but here listen to him go on and on.
Has again, what I think is a radical view of this country's
relationship with the world. And that will be heard far beyond
the Middle East. I would think people in Taiwan and South Korea
in Europe, they saw what this President did. And why would any
American ally Why would any country dependent on America
somehow believe that something like this couldn't happen to
them? We have shredded our reputation for reliability and
dependability. And that might be the the greatest consequence of
the last few days.
What's interesting about this one, go Yeah, go ahead.
What is he talking about? We who's what else did we screw?
Now what leaving Syria? No, but he named one well, that's
not what he's saying. I think to me, what he's saying is, hey, if
you're Japan, you know you should be worried because you
know We could just pull right out and we won't even have a
base who won't protect you. I think that's what he's trying to
say. We only have 800 bases around the world. So now I
personally, I like it. I've been advocating to get out of
everything for as long as I can remember. And also there's there
was no, this is all under the phony baloney. Although it
wasn't at the time when under the 911 regulations, the
President knew where and I'm still under a state of emergency
presidents can put us into war situations without the only body
who has the authority to do that, which is the House of
Representatives.
Will I know somebody that agrees with you?
Well, there's a lot of people would agree with
me insofar as a clip.
Oh, Ron Paul, of course, yes.
In a way, why should it be complicated? We were in a place
we shouldn't have been in a war that's unconstitutional. Doesn't
make any sense. We don't know why we're there. We don't know
when we're supposed to come home. And finally, we have a
president in this case, doing his ACO he said he wants to do
and they go nuts. So I guess we shouldn't be shocked, shocked.
I'm shocked that there would be these factions. But you
know, I think you know, this is Washington showing its colors.
Here are the Neo cons, the main proponents of the unitary
executive. He is the decider. He's the Commander in Chief.
Then when he finally acts as a decider acts as a commander in
chief in a constitutional way, removing troops from somewhere
they shouldn't go all of a sudden, he didn't tell us. He
didn't ask us. He's not listening to us. What's going on
here?
The war is a dumb war, and it's unconstitutional. And then they
criticize him for doing it. This is this is one place where a
president that hasn't even a memory of the constitution did
the right thing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
It's also a nice time to pay attention to the people who are
adamantly against this pullout. Just need to know their names.
They may all be against it, but really listen to them,
particularly the media agree, you know, pay attention who's
really against it, because those those that's the enemy right
there.
Well, it and it's also part of spot this book.
Yes. Well, it seems like everybody's on board, not that
that wouldn't be possible to do.
Well, the one clip I do have that I think, is interesting,
because it was it was offset from the Judy's report on Trump
leaving Syria and firing Mattis. And it seems to if you just kind
of dissected, it seems to explain what really went on here
is that, you know, they think it's like Trump decided, let's
just leave when it's quite possible that he did a bunch of
deals in the background because he was floating around,
especially with Turkey, to get himself out, getting our guys
out and put somebody else in to finish the job. Because there's
two factors in this turkey situation. And this is explained
on PBS NewsHour, but it's done as a separate story that's got
nothing to do with anything but play this leaving Syria Erawan
deal with Trump.
Turkey's president Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Today welcome us plans
to leave Syria. That came as the Associated Press reported that
President Trump made the decision after speaking with
Erwan last week in Istanbul, the Turkish leaders and he promised
the President that Turkey will finish off Islamic State
militants what they're saying Trump they up to him as good as
much as we will
be working on our operational plans to eliminate Islamic State
elements, which are said to remain intact in Syria in line
with our conversation with President Trump. In other words,
over the next months, we will adopt an operational style
geared toward this goal,
or to one also said that Turkey is delaying a planned operation
against us back Kurdish forces in Syria. Meanwhile, the Kurds
warned their fighters may have to leave the fight against ISIS
to confront any Turkish attack.
Yeah. Now there's, there's obviously deals happening here.
And I think for Trump, it was, you know what? To stop all the
crap about Saudi Arabia, you know, get take a backseat on the
Khashoggi thing. I'll give you Syria. I don't care anyway, I'll
give you that. It seems that cut and dry.
I think so too. And I think he had to protect the courage and
all the protection is considered
part of this part of the deal because it's part of the data
one side yeah, he said, Oh, no, we won't go after the Kurds
right away. We're gonna hang back so he
gave Kurds a heads up to dead. Yeah, they'll go back to where
they came from. It's and leave Syria and the Turks are going to
come in full force. Take these rude the rest of these idiots.
These ISIS idiots out. There's one other stat their whole thing
that'll be oh my god and maybe some peace, at least for us.
There's two other things that about, well, first of all, there
was a an interesting ad in recoil magazine, which is some,
like aerospace defense magazine. And it was the remember the old
Blackwater logo with like the claw Blackwater or the
mercenaries. Yeah, Erik Prince. So that took out a full page ad.
I don't know what that cost and recoil magazine, but completely
black, the black water logo, and then just the words we are
coming. And the thinking is that pull out of Syria, but certainly
Afghanistan is all kind of surface stuff. Like, let's bring
our let's bring our boys and girls home. But in the meantime,
we do send in Blackwater Z Academy, whoever they're called
today, to still, you know, have the covert operations that we
need when we need them. Like maybe for the poppy fields.
Apparently, we still need them at the poppy fields,
something like that. And then here, and this is just Turkey in
general, a new update came out for iPhones and iPads. I don't
use one anymore. But I do have this is iOS 12 dot 1.2. And it
includes bug fixes for your phone to in particular fixes
bugs with e sim activation, and addresses an issue that could
affect cellular connectivity in Turkey.
I'm thinking wait a
while what what system is Turkey using that could be an issue.
And I'm went to look for it. And the first thing you hit right
off the bat is from the when was this. This was I think, a couple
of weeks ago that Turkey President Tayyip Erdogan
announced today the country would boycott all electronics
from the United States in particular, targeting
specifically Apple amidst rising trade tensions between the two
countries. So it may just be coincidence, but you have a
country threatening to boycott a device specifically. And then
they do an update with something that is fixes something not
working on the Turkish cell phone network. To me it sounds
like maybe they inserted something to make it work better
on the Turkish cell phone network, like they might do with
China.
Or maybe they turned off something they turned off the
spy device?
No, I think I know because Turkey said we don't we're going
to boycott your phones.
But if it's going to make the phone work more like a spy
device, why wouldn't they just keep boycotting the phone?
How about if it's working as a spy device for them? For the
Turkish Government? For the Turkish just like the Chinese
have some special updates
so they can spy on? Yes, exactly. Well, yeah, they gotta
do some but the goodness. Yeah. All right, I can buy that that
can be part of it.
I'd like to know more about it. I'd like to hear more about it.
I'm very interested in well,
then I guess you're not gonna have you heard all you're gonna
hear in this on this show.
I can't accuse Apple of anything. Because you know, that
could get us deep platformed. Later. Yeah.
Well, I think something's up now. Turning your turkey into a
major trading partner with the United States is not a bad idea.
I still admire from my visit there. The glassware that is
made in Turkey is world class and it never gets out of Turkey
or I mean, it does, but not into the United States. And it's so
cheap. It's it would be it's just incredibly competitive.
There's a lot of stuff today. It might benefit both countries.
And maybe Trump's doing a good thing here overall, given
turkeys half of Syria, and
well, it's you know, he's not just giving it to Turkeys giving
it to Russia. He's giving it to Iran and I think is
end to end Syria. Yeah. And
yes, thank and Syria in their own country, and find let
everyone fight it out, you know, let everyone run around. You
know, it was it was the friend she wanted us to do that. I
mean, that's really where it all stems from from total oil. And I
haven't heard anything about French awkward
to Vietnam to have you recall.
He had not from firsthand experience, but yeah, yeah, I've
seen the CANS by Ken Burns documentary, but it wasn't
really spelled out that well, but lie about it. So it seems to
me like
let's just face what we need. Seems you go on with that. But
first of all, the Russians were always in Syria. Yeah. Yes. So
what's new about Russia being there? Nothing. No
No. So now all of a sudden is a big deal. Russia's pulling this
Trump strings. Yeah,
well, I'm just anti war. So I'm happy with it. I don't see any
reason, you know, I understand what are what are what are
businesses here in the United States, I'm not ashamed of it,
I'd leave if I was, but you know, we create war stuff.
That's where we spend the most money on. That's what the most
people and working in an industry, and of course, we have
the other side of it, health care, but we make war stuff.
There is also an $11 billion contract. Erawan agreed to pay
for more of our stuff as a part of this deal with Trump. You
know, and so the same goes for Saudi Arabia, you know, 110 100
and $20 billion. He says, like, once you guys take our stuff,
we'll help you operate it and kill each other and we'll just
sit here with their own own oil. That could be an actual
strategy.
Not a bad strategy. I just like to know why the lip Joes out
there are all pro war all of a sudden, because they're
anti Trump. It's just whatever he does, you got to be against
him, no matter what your position was in the past. And
now it's get getting to an interesting point where people
who should be pacifist and and want peace on earth, are
advocating for the exact opposite. And that's what's
funny. That's why he gotta keep an eye on who's doing it. Who's
saying what, because you got to remember what they're doing.
Yeah, quite amusing.
All right, I think we've covered
well, this anger kind of crossed over with the wall, and some
some shoehorning through ramming through of the $5 billion budget
last minute through the house, which course has, has to go
through the Senate, which seems impossible, but it was, I don't
know what the move is. But the way it played out in the M five
M, is Trump was kind of hanging back, he was defeated, because,
you know, Nancy and Chuck went into the Oval Office beat the
crap out of him. He was like, Who, but then it was apparently
people like Ann Coulter. And and anyone on Fox who were telling
the, the President that he you know, he lost his manhood, and
he should stand up, stand up for the wall. And, hilariously,
that's how it was interpreted by JEFFREY TOOBIN, constitutional
lawyer worse, that guy on CNN
and Republicans are complaining, Jeffrey, that they can't figure
out exactly where the President stands. They meet with them.
They hear what he's saying, but he's not telling them. I'm gonna
sign this, but I'm not gonna sign that.
Well, what they should be doing, obviously, is checking with Ann
Coulter, because apparently, she's the president of the
United States, as far as this is concerned. I mean, this was a
deal. This deal was agreed to Mitch McConnell, who was
nobody's idea of a flaming liberal, Paul Ryan, everybody
thought this deal was done. And you know, what, the president
lost on the wall because he didn't have the votes. But then,
you know, Lauren Graham and Ann Coulter started challenging the
President's manhood and the and the, the House Republicans
started stamping their feet. And the President decided no, no,
no, I'm gonna scream and yell and shut down the government
even though I still don't have the votes. So I mean, I guess
Ann Coulter has to figure out how this is all going to end
because she's the person who is driving the federal government
at this point. God help us. God help us.
I'm not so sure this
guy that lunatic. And by the way, why is he? I mean, this is
just a promotion for Ann Coulter. Yeah, she's been
misquoted, and they just use her that users a whipping boy they
like to throw around but
also the manhood thing that came from some overheard conversation
of Nancy Pelosi.
Yes, exactly. So I'm not quite sure how
this got. I mean, I didn't follow any of that. But I barely
watched that kind of stuff.
So here's here's shields, is Brooks and shields by the way,
they they took Brooks away, and they put in his garage and guy
so now his shields and a worst shields. This PBS has gone off
the rails. I mean, they don't have any balance whatsoever
anymore. But listen to shields, misquoting Coulter
hours away from yet another government shutdown. What does
it say about the way things are working right now in our
government? Well,
it's not Well, Judy, I mean, we went from a week ago, recall in
the White House, which seems eons ago, when Senator Schumer
and democratic hosts leader and speaker B Pelosi met with the
president and the president, you know, manfully stepped up and
said, I'll take the shot, show it shut down. You know, be happy
to do it on my put it to me, then to an agreement with the
Senate. That would stay. They find it through the new year and
then come back and revisit it. And then immediately a reaction
or revulsion if you would from the President's longest and
strongest supporters, TV commentators on the right such
as Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and said this was a sellout on
the wall and Coulter going so far as to say his presidency was
a joke and that he had scammed the American people
so now they brought in a couple of so this is all Republican
right wing talk people
so she yeah now they're now they're important to have money.
But hold on hold on. There's something more behind this I
don't know what it is yet. But there's no reason for a guy like
this to I mean, okay, you can talk about Ann Coulter so that
was maybe somewhere the impetus but you bring in Rush Limbaugh
I've heard other you know of course they bring in Hannity and
Carlson and any anybody they can from mainly from Fox News what's
the there's there's more to that
first of all, let's make the correction here that she never
said the presidency is a joke. She had a longer comment she
says if after four years he doesn't get the wall built then
the presidency will be a joke. That's a lot different than the
presidency is a joke and a scam I don't know where he got even
got that part. But there is a I don't know maybe they're trying
to separate the herd or they're trying to do something divide
and conquer the right wing. I think
they're going for a massive cable D platform D platform Fox
News from every cable station in the country that's
not gonna be that is too hard today
they did they did the platform your boy. And
hey, who's my boy your boy
is home home. I'll tell you your boy. Well, it's not your boy.
Your boy is savage Michael Savage kicked off of New York.
So he effectively lost his his New York affiliate.
Yeah, that GN that's that's a huge issue.
That's a huge problem.
It's a major problem. And he's now
he's, he's, he's deployed effectively D platformed. From
national radio. You don't have New York, you have almost
nothing. I come from that business. In New York is a big
deal. It's the deal. It's the
New York guy threw him out. It is causing a problem by the way.
I think that it may cause more trouble for WGN it does really
well.
But you know who they're bringing in? And this is what I
found interesting.
Ben Shapiro.
Oh God, Ben Shapiro is unlistenable. Ben Shapiro
is a shill. He is a Hollywood creation. By admission. He's a
Hollywood creation. And now he's got he's got seven stations.
He's cleared in New York. He's cleared in DC he's cleared in
Chicago and these are good stations. ABC New York. W LS
Chicago has got Atlanta he's got KBC Los Angeles. This is a
massive change. But Shapiro was also not a not a pro Trump guy.
No, he was anti Trump.
I think he is a never Trumper but he's really being put he's
he's being positioned in
he can't handle it.
Yes he can.
I don't think so you yes he can't it doesn't number of
people that that three hours of talk every day five days a week
all year is a relatively small number of people they're all
semi nuts now.
Okay, well that not not that I'm not interested in that part of
it. Um, he's being put in here. He has zero radio experience
that I know of and now he's
like I said he can't handle it that's what you do what you just
said
doesn't matter because he'll he'll stay in there to propagate
the message. Look, let's look he's he's replacing Michael
Savage.
He's nobody's gonna listen to his show. It's
unimportant.
It's very important. It's not WG there's money involved. That's
very important because
first of all, you're wrong. Because the Ben Shapiro has
quite an audience on online and people like him. A lot of people
like him a lot of moderate people like him. I think he will
he has a following I think it will translate to his radio show
but it will effectively change the audience that listens to
what they think would be right wing talk radio, which it won't
be because it's just not what he's not he's he's never he's,
he's more left wing than right wing. And it's which doesn't
work very well on the radio. I'm agreeing with you, but they're
gonna give it a damn good shot with this kid.
I think he's gonna do like Monica Crowley and some of these
others that just do not draw the draw the audience. I know what
you're saying about his does have an audience. You're right,
but a large massive audience is very hard to control and very
hard to attract. And he is annoying.
Hey, I had this argument at home about the guy so you don't have
to tell me this. But people like him. He has a message that is
kind of down the middle, and it's supplanting them again
going back to the original questions like what's happening?
What? Why are we picking on people? It's to get rid of them.
It's time to D platform all of these people.
Well, it's a good try. You can go Go for it. I mean, did you
the joke is of course you would savage did.
He's doing? He's doing a podcast?
Yeah. He's doing a podcast is all you new yorkers listen to my
podcast? And I think a lot of them will. Because I think I
think if anybody's gonna drive the podcasting side of the
industry, it could be him. Thank you, Michael. Now, yeah, yeah,
we
need more competition. Good.
I want to if we don't do it, you're not competent. We don't
we we don't have any real competition. Now I want to
mention something about five, six years ago, I think it was
and I ever since then I banished. I used your reaction.
You know, you remember this? I'm absolutely sure of it. I played
a Ben Shapiro clip on this show. Around six years ago, and you
went nuts. Really? Yes. You hated the guy. You didn't like
his but you didn't like anything about me? I never said
that. No, no. Play me the tape.
It was like you were so irked by this clip. I never I've never
played a bench trick. Do you? Uh, do you have the clips since?
It's not too long ago? I probably do have it. I'll see if
I can find it. And we'll play it again and see what your reaction
is. I can't but what was he doing six years ago, your
reaction? Your reaction is the general public's reaction to a
guy like this now, maybe
six years ago, maybe he went through a complete change. He
went through, you know, wardrobe hair makeup. The whole thing
he's got he's good for radio. He's got a big Yeah, he's got a
big time agent. Yeah, it is. It really is. That's what that's
what you get with an Ingraham. That's what you get with these
videos. Sean Hannity it's a certain look, it's a certain
type. But he's he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. I'm trying to
see if I'm trying to say my brother Nathaniel. Let me see if
I can find your your Shapiro clip from six years ago. Yes,
you
might be a Shapiro might not.
Okay, well, that's not helpful then. I mean, you'd look at look
at your search engine.
Let me see 2014 maybe
five years ago,
Ben Shapiro on guns Ben Shapiro guns more. Morality, socialism.
Narcissism egomaniacs. Ben Shapiro on Jews. Now that was
17. No, I don't have now. I don't know. That's
just drop it. Well, you
brought it out. I
think. I think Ben Shapiro radio is going to be a fail. And it'll
be fat faster than we.
Okay. I think it will be successful and you will eat
crow.
I will refuse the crow. Crows have a very noble bird.
Ah,
how did we get on to this?
We were talking about the guys going off on Coulter. Yeah. And
meanwhile, we I played the shields clip where he makes all
these assertions. So then I explained that this guy Gershon,
from the WaPo, WaPo, WaPo, comes on, and he's talking about this
is the same the topic is about the way Trump handled the budget
issue, to the point where we're at an impasse. Where does the
fault
lie? Well, big picture. This shows how easy the President of
the United States is to manipulate I mean, he had agreed
to a deal then some of his toughest supporters, Limbaugh
and on Coulter and some of the team in the Fox News morning
programs came out against it and he changed his view like a
puppet on a string. It was really extraordinary sign of
weak leadership. And I can bet you that Russia and China and
North Korea, look at something like that, about how easy this
President is to manipulate. So that's the context for this, you
know, I so I don't think that he can make a particularly good
case having agreed already to something rather reasonable.
That you know, the 30 that he changed his view with good
reason he can't make that case.
What kind of balances this When it comes to the PBS,
yeah, there's no balance. There are
people that could rationalize and maybe give us some
perspective from a different point of view. But no PBS did
they've already done this with with the global warming and
they've they've admitted it, they cannot have and, and gore
even tried it and for even thinking about it, you cannot
have anybody on and on arguing against you can't have anyone
against the global warming thesis on the show. They've
already said that. So do you have two people on? There's no
balance are both gonna say the same thing right now. They've
done it with the Shields and Brooks segment. Where you got
shields who hates Trump with a guy who hates Trump more? Is
that what your balance is? Real hate and kind of subtle hate
maybe doesn't hate him so much. But this guy hates him a lot.
And that's what that there's your balance as balanced there,
isn't there?
If I were you, I'd returned my donation and my tote bag.
Luckily, I don't donate to them.
Let's listen to another globalist Mazie Hirono, who they
like to call because no one ever heard of Mazie Hirono of Hawaii.
Yes, because she's pretty much an idiot. Yes. But
she says fun things.
I was very distressed by it, of course. He made it very clear
that he and President Trump were not on the same page in terms of
their worldviews. And of course, Trump's worldview is the is
very, how shall I say, out of whack because she comes up with
it himself. And these last two days, I feel as though we have
been on a roller coaster with him at the controls. Because
first there's the announcement that we're getting out of Syria,
where we know that he didn't discuss it with anybody,
including General Mattis, giving a huge Christmas present to
Putin and to Iran, then, because I've been very focused on what's
going on at the border, they make an announcement that people
who come who are coming through for asylum purposes have to wait
on the Mexican side where there are huge safety concerns for so
many of the children. And then of course, the Senate did the
responsible thing last night by keeping government running,
passing this bill by a voice vote, and only to have President
Trump get all worked up because he's got some right wing love
people yelling at him on Fox News. And suddenly, he says,
Well, I don't think I'm gonna sign it. So it is very true that
he will bring on the shutdown, and he has to take
responsibility for it. Any effort on his part to blame the
Democrats who will be such bullshit that as I said before,
I would hardly be able to stamp it.
I think she said bullshit. Yeah. Admire that I give her points
for the bullshit. Yeah. But there's there's the the clear
talking point, you know, it's like the crazy people on Fox
News. It's, and you know, they're
not on the same page ever. Yeah.
I think, really, this has more to do with a serious, immediate
offensive on a competitor in the space.
You know, the mica theory,
and the Michael Savage stuff isn't a subscriber, but I like
the Michael Savage. Removal from ABC in New York, is an
advertiser related issue. You know, they went after his
advertisers.
Yeah, well, they do that. Well, yeah.
Well, it was successful. That's my point,
is that we can do every show we can bring one example of that
up. That's the problem with the media today.
Right. But it but when it's working, and let's see how it
goes. Now we'll see. This is too much of this. At the same time,
it's too much of the same stuff. I think there's more, there's a
little more behind it, but could be wrong. We need to talk about
deep platforming in general, because we have a couple of
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if you don't mind, I will gladly do that. On the next show. We
have it this is a Christmas shows that we can't play anymore
and of show mixes and about Christmas. So I have a number of
them lined up so I will do it wrong. I
think that's appropriate. Yeah. And I speak for the peerage
committee when I say that. And that and he says, other than
that doesn't have anything but that request is looking on both
sides of the sheet. Nope. I get Makara general karma you can use
it.
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of course I did. I got a Space Force challenge coin.
I got a Space Force challenge coin to do anything else.
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with Professor Ted.
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I got that one too early in it. Did you get a bottle of mulled
wine?
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say this is not really from Baron da slammer. It is from
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Never got it before but now that you mentioned it,
and I like it. I think it's good. Like your insurance you
got to support the show.
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laminator Lemaitre something like that. Who hit me in the
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from central New Jersey. We both thank you for the five hours of
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clip involving a vocal fry if possible. Also, since Andrew has
never donated himself, he's a douche bag. Oh my goodness, I'm
donating on his behalf that make might make me the douche bag.
No, it doesn't. I'm aware of I'm not aware of how it works, but
some one should be called out as a douche bag. We did. Merry
Christmas to you both Nikki.
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Obviously, I read I read The New York Times like all day long.
Mainly I pad
you've got karma you know,
I love it when people do stuff like that, you know? Gifts,
birthdays Christmas. It's very sweet.
Thanks, Nikki.
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can I can take one day and do a short bit fame is
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Hey, is that who's knocking on the door? Ah, I was that was
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He probably and he did it. But when did 571 did five, six, I
get it now. He probably has less. They're both in tennis or
he's in North Carolina, dad's in Tennessee. But that part of the
world, the likelihood of listening to the show developing
kind of a different perspective on things and then losing all
your friends. Yeah. is less there. Yes. Yes, it's
true. True. I liked this idea of people donating and because
clearly they understand how it works, you know, changing it by
one penny to be right after that person on the donation list.
Yeah, that's an interesting idea. That's yeah. Before After,
yeah. It's an interesting way to coordinate I like it. So this is
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dad. Yeah. Yeah. Arthur brewer in Madisonville, Tennessee. Alex
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Fantastic. Dave see on the podium later on in the show.
Looking forward to it.
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With a little bit of karma since I'm feeling good about
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deplatforming. Yes. I want to talk about deep platforming for
a moment. And this I think it came when we were talking. Maybe
I should play this. This clip first. Actually. This is about
5g. And I don't know Yeah, I do want to play this actually.
Because you were D platformed. From PC Magazine. For right for
basically just questioning 5g technology.
Well, I wasn't even that. What I did is I wrote a column about
how many people were questioning it. I wasn't questioning it. And
I outlined all these different things. And then I made the
assertion that this could become a problem for people promoting
5g.
And interestingly AT and T announced just this week, that
they would be updating their phones. So if you have at&t on
your Android phone or your iPhone, you will within the New
Year receive a little notification here where it says
4g LTE it'll say 5g E which stands for evolution, which
means it's not 5g, it's bull crap, it's marketing. But these
guys are old crap but they but they're stupid. This is possibly
the stupidest thing you can do to gain market share in unproven
technology that is not rolled out. I mean, unproven, and
certainly from a health perspective but unproven and
many The area's they want to be the first because you know T
Mobile is trying to get out there and be first Yep, foam
finger we're AT and T. But when you hear about some of the
testimony going on about 5g, such as Dr. Sharon Goldberg that
I have here she's an internal medicine physician and professor
and she's testifying here about the possible dangers of E low
electromagnetic radiation associated with the 5g telephony
network wireless radiation
has biological effects period. This is no longer a subject for
debate. When you look at PubMed and the peer reviewed
literature. These effects are seen in all life forms, plants,
animals, insects, microbes. In humans, we have clear evidence
of cancer now there is no question. We have evidence of
DNA damage cardiomyopathy, which is the precursor of congestive
heart failure. neuropsychiatric effects. So 5g is not a
conversation about whether or not these biological effects
exist, they clearly do. We've been sitting on the evidence for
EMR and chronic disease for decades. And now we're seeing
all these epidemics appearing. So diabetes is the first
epidemic, I think most of you know the statistics, one in
three American children will become diabetic in their
lifetime. And if they're Hispanic females, the number is
one in two. So what does this have to do with wireless
radiation, wireless radiation, and other electromagnetic fields
such as magnetic fields and dirty electricity have been
clearly associated with elevated blood sugar and diabetes. That
is what the peer reviewed literature says it is not
opinion. The closer you live to a cell tower, the higher your
blood glucose. So the idea with small cells of putting the cells
closer to people's homes and bedrooms, scientifically, is
very dangerous. And from an economic perspective, it's
dangerous. And you may not know this, I was shocked to find this
out. But the way you create a diabetic a model of diabetes in
rats in the lab, is by exposing them to 2.4 gigahertz and this
is not for long term exposure. The other epidemics that clearly
linked from the science with electromagnetic radiation are
related to mental health. And this is this is straight from
PubMed. This isn't my opinion, this is science. So we have
three epidemics that clearly they're essentially one
epidemic, we have deterioration of mental health in the United
States. So and these epidemics are our suicide epidemic
epidemics in violent crime. So shootings and the opioid
epidemic These are facts these aren't and these are things that
have just been glossed over by the wireless industry and I
really don't have time to talk about them in five minutes. I
wish I did. But we need to examine our epidemics in the
context of our EMF exposures.
Now I want to believe all this but I have to say listening to
her with its PubMed peer reviewed its science the
sciences in no questions asked Shut up, slave. I'm a little
skeptical about it now.
Yeah. What do you think? What do you think?
I know I don't have any first hand knowledge of pandas I do
know I have a number of friends that were on the cell phones too
long and they're all dead because of the cell phone tired
all I know is it seems unlikely that they would have been dead
otherwise I don't know what to do. Well, I mean you can take
any perspective you want on this the lot there's but there's like
a number of there's a couple of professors who want to call it
has a webpage filled with documents about this apparently
is being studied to death and most of these things get
suppressed and that concerns me that concerns me more than what
she says she's not saying the science is in because everybody
else says she's full of crap Well, sciences in on the other
side,
the thing that that bugged me about her testimony she's
talking about 2.4 gigahertz that's not 5g is not supposed to
be much higher, isn't it? Isn't that in the 50 gigahertz range?
Here's another woman who got the platform for writing about Wi Fi
calling it why fried? Yeah. And we do know it's a microwave oven
frequency that is got all kinds of protections around the
microwave oven and what because it slowly microwave being
microwave oven and most of us have already determined so it's
not at those levels it's no big deal but it turns out that that
is a big deal according to some studies and they believe that
the microwave frequency which is our you know Wi Fi everybody has
it you got one probably yeah I was gonna say right now your
feet there
so I have I have 2.4 gigahertz on my head both sides my my
hearing aids use a 2.4 gigahertz yes, we're for the Apple AirPlay
a lot if I were you I'd be concerned. I'm very A lot of
evidence is that the diabetes epidemic epidemic is because
it's just constant exposure it's constant exposure to this
now that that part I think is sounds realistic, but also maybe
we should just stop eating junk in America that might help us
separate all these issues.
So so there's there's still it's still growing it's it's, it's
it's interesting Yes, well, the combination is deadly. Now the
5g is totally different stories of visitors Mike millimeter wave
technology is completely different, right? And this
penetrating stuff and millimeter wave doesn't penetrate very
well. You know, which,
which is why you need all the 20 million of these things
ourselves
with millimeter waves, it's just a very sketchy this technology
is it's like all technologies when they first come out there
they rushed the market so somebody can make a lot of money
and we'll deal with it later and even and I sit on some show that
I was on I can't remember the name of it unfortunately I
should be able to but I probably lost my memory from why fried
the I call this the potential this whole wireless revolution
may be the best dose of this 21st century and all the
companies that are that have potential for being sued out of
business includes Intel right now but if this is a problem
they would want to shut up for as long as they could until they
can fix the problems they can fix it at all but they're rushed
in the market with this 5g Because those guys the the big
telecom companies are all in they have they don't care about
the technology as long as you know they got they just want
the marketing angle they want the investor angle that's what
it seems like to me as well. Yeah, trying
to run their stock up trying to this could be a two way sword or
two why or because the two ways sort of like that. They they can
get the investors can turn on them if something bad, you know,
some real something definitive comes out of like Washington the
White House that say about 5g Trump turns on it for example. I
mean, isn't this real risk? So I think so it
comes down to markets really?
Yeah, yeah. Okay, well
then it makes sense that you got to do platform for that
you're on board and um, you know, the
biggest advertisers in the United States are Verizon. T
Mobile T AT and T is second or third those guys that advertise
the most so that would make sense that a magazine like PC
mag is has sold out.
Well, I think they've all sold out. Yeah.
The the number one way I see these days for you to get D
platformed. Is to call yourself a creator. I would advise you
don't do that. Have you noticed this? I think I may have
mentioned it before I'm this is really irks me, I can't explain
exactly why. But it's an it revolves around the Patreon
discussion, which for some reason, people are still
incredibly surprised that Patreon does not stand for
complete free speech, but really, for what their community
will, will accept. And oh my goodness, this is you got kicked
off because, you know, he didn't fit within the community and
people are surprised, like Patreon owes them something. But
every single one of these people talks about creators and I think
it's insulting and I think it's bad to lump everything to lump
podcasters and YouTubers and Scott Adams calls himself a
creator. Like it's just why is this bothering me? Can you
please look in my head doctor Dvorak?
I don't know why it is something I think is actually the sound of
the word or the word itself or the generality about what it is
or maybe it trivializes or marginalizes that's what
I was, yeah, I think maybe that's it. I'm a podcaster I'm
proud to say I'm a podcaster. That's not a creator. Well, you
create a podcast with creator maybe it's because it sounds
somewhat like I'm god, I'm a creator. I'm god
that that's probably you might see it as blasphemous.
And most of these people probably do think they're all
that and a bag of chips. So maybe that's why they call them
so we are the creators, I tell you,
I create media, there'll be thing they call them creatives,
creatives. And I also didn't like that when I had the agency.
I despise that too. I think creatives despise it being
called creatives. Yeah, I
think it puts you in a box. Yeah. I have nowhere to go back
to artist. Good word. I have an artist is well established.
Anyway, sorry. Just
the I just wanted to mention for for people who are being D
platformed. There is a very thriving ecosystem. If you're
into State and it's all based around activity pub. And doesn't
you don't really need to know what that is. But it's it's kind
of a simple technology that allows the one thing RSS could
never do, which is the publish subscribe model through anything
but one huge centralized place. And this is what is loosely
called the fediverse. So if you want to Twitter like thing,
there's a mastodon, if you want Instagram, this pixel fed, if
you are YouTube, there's peer tube and bid shoot, which worked
quite well actually. But none of these, not a single one will get
you the same type of activity you have on the big social
networks, such as Twitter, face, bag, Instagram, etc. And that's
mainly because there is no M five M feedback loop. So they're
not talking about it and feeding back into it. And there's no
algorithms. So it's not like the drugs that you get when you go
into Twitter. It's fantastic if you want to just have the social
network and interact, but it will never ever be anything
like, again, it's just pure drugs that you get from from the
owl gorilla owl realized. Social networks l dogalize. But
I do have one story in this regard. Oh, good. One of the
guys that got the platform's became a big deal. In everyone
who even mentions his name gets D platformed, including
PewDiePie bitched about this. I think he's still on YouTube, but
he's not D platformed. I think he got kicked off a Patreon.
Oh, okay, but he's not deep platformed from YouTube, that'd
be crazy. If you crazy to do that.
No, they're not doing that. But he's what you lost, you know,
the income streams. And so this is Sargon of Akkad.
Yeah, this is the this is the thing that that started off the
Patreon deep platforming, and apparently, huge fans. Dave
Rubin and a bunch of Peter Peterson are big fans and then
because of this deep platforming of this guy, the British guy I
think,
yes, his name is Karl Benjamin. And he has this you know, right
wing. He's a real Brexit guy. And he apparently said something
not on his pep podcast someplace else somewhere along the lines
they accuse him of saying something years ago about
something the N word and
I need to make a distinction about something here because I
follow this and I'm It's interesting you bring it to the
show because I find them kind of uninteresting.
Mainly because I like the way you always do that.
Well I mean that I mean did but it's good you bring it up now
because the story has been around for two to three weeks.
First of all the show him the guy himself I just don't find
interesting it's saying okay, fine, whatever.
He's a British guy, but he explained why you don't like the
breath that's
not true. What what he did you know calling someone a white
nigger and that was supposed to be to show that it basically the
the joy read defense of you know, I said faggot because he
says faggot, then you know how it feels faggot. But this wasn't
even a thing. But hold on. That's not the point. Okay,
what's the point? What Don't interrupt me. I'll get to it
eventually. Oh, like
the Zephyr?
Go. Patreon is not a platform, it may be a payment platforms.
Oh, well, no, no. Payment Platform.
Yes, but it's the word. But when
I just want to make sure we make a distinction. YouTube is a
hosting platform that Twitter is a hosting platform, Facebook is
a hosting platform. The only thing Patreon is is a financial
exchange. But now for some reason. They talk about their
creators, like they own them. There's nothing hosted on their
system. And they they're just a bunch of dipshits who take 15%
with a very simple web application to charge your
credit card. It's MasterCard, that's the problem. And I think
that's who do who's doing their their processing that is the
payment platform Patreon just a bunch of leeches really just
opportunistic leeches and I don't I fail to see why people
fall for this every single time
they fall in for for going
along with what is called a platform and all of a sudden
you're there you're their property they were talking about
people this way from the get go our creators our platform is
supposed to do Do you consider PayPal to be a platform there
we're on?
No,
not really.
It's Pay Pal call us one of their creators
no even mentioned us as a matter of fact,
they should they should do some ads for us. So it's I'm a little
sick of this. This is like people got to open their eyes
and
let's back up a little bit. You seem to be outraged to an
extreme. First of all, except for the two of us. 90% of the
podcasts out there we Don't go to these conventions and all
these things. I mean, you've been to a couple, I've never
been to one of them. But we have people that go there, Jen, Brian
is a huge fan of these things. And at these conventions,
podcasting conventions and whatever they are conferences,
they push this stuff, well, here's how you make money as a
podcaster. You get it on Patreon. And then it's promoted
as as a as a way to make money as a podcast, and all kinds of
people have bought into it. And they only use Patreon. Many of
them are completely on Patreon. Only, they don't even think
about the other stuff that we do and that other people try to do,
which is, what do we need Patreon? People have told us,
Oh, you guys should be on Patreon. I've always been irked
by this, because why should we be on what are they doing that
we can't do ourselves? Well, there's they got this website.
And and that is what they're talking about when they talk
about the platform, the platform, is there, their
website that you have in your mentioned on? So it's kind of a
platform, it's, you know, I would I don't have the objection
you have I guess,
I guess it's apples to oranges were hit the defense of this,
this Brexit Brit Sargon of Akkad. is what I was doing
wasn't on their platform. The the only analogy that would be
right, is if you were on someone else's money platform, he
doesn't create content on Patreon.
This is minor to me. I think there's the other issue is the
more interesting one and the one you should be happy about. But
before I bring that up, let's at least listen to a guy giving us
a rundown of Sargon of Akkad in the story. So we have we know
what we're talking so people know what the hell we're arguing
about
Sargon of Akkad, if you don't know, is he's got a YouTube
channel just under a million subscribers. He is a political
commentator. And this has nothing to do with with whether
you agree with him or not. That's not the point. The point
is, is that he was making his living, supporting his family
supporting his children putting up really good content, some of
the best content on the web. And he was being supported. Using
Patreon. To
do this Dave Rubin is
done with this. Some guy can't remember his name, but he's just
a mid level video podcast. He's very good
as to make this happen. So out of the blue, Patreon, pulled his
account, terminated his account without any explanation
whatsoever. So I dug into this and to find trying to find out
what's going on because there's a big brouhaha over this. And
what I found out was 10 months ago Sargon of Akkad or Carl said
something on a website, podcast or something like that, that
they deemed to be offensive. And therefore, even though it was
not on the Patreon site, yanked his account. Right before
Christmas, no explanation. He didn't violate the terms of
service. They just deemed that I think they just didn't like him.
We don't like him. We don't like you. We don't like your
politics, therefore, we're going to make you disappear. Okay,
I realized I go ahead, I I've done some self reflection. Oh,
wait, please, I'll wait for you.
Now I do have a long story that Carl Himself tells where he went
to a conference and one of the women at the top on the Dyess
called him out as a douchebag in human garbage because you sit in
the audience because he or she is a feminist and I guess he
writes negative things about feminist game reviewers. And so
she got bent out of shape he protested to the conference
runners they ended up apologizing to her not paying
any attention to his complaint because you're not supposed to
do that. And otherwise you're not supposed to be on the Dyess
calling out members of the audience and then it got the
attention she made a wrote a bunch of articles got the
attention of Pay Pal of a Patreon demanding he be pulled
and she got she had throws a lot of weight around next thing you
know, this guy's lost all his income. Now, the the thing that
that stems from is we can play a little bit of this is too long
to play the whole thing but play a little mystery and listen to
the schedule. You know what his voice is? Now you know what he's
like and why you probably don't like him because he's a little
bit of a twit
in June 2017 I along with many other YouTube creators traveled
to Las and
creators Okay, I'm done. That was the end of that clip for me
creators, um, you to create allies
to attend that year's VidCon event. VidCon builds itself as a
community festival, creative conference, and industry summit
all wrapped up into one. We'd gone there to have a good time
and meet one another. at VidCon. There were public panels, most
of which had not been announced when we purchased our tickets.
And we attended one with a polite woman called Anita
Sarkeesian. A feminist Video Game Critic. She noticed me and
this happened. You If you Google my name on YouTube, you guys
should have like this dude who are making videos
I had been sitting politely in the front row. And as you can
imagine, abusing the audience from the stage is a violation of
VidCon rules. So I filed a complaint to VidCon.
Okay. Unless it's important to play the rest, I just want to
get to my self reflection, because this guy
will let me finish the story then with the whole thing, what
happened. And this was what we played the last show, we played
it out Rubin and Peterson who are both kind of, you know, the
problem, the real problem stems from the existence of Patreon.
And the fact that this doesn't need to exist, people can do all
the stuff that patron does themselves, and their platform,
or whatever it is list of shows that you can subscribe to, is
not very, it's not necessarily that convenient to anybody. But
okay, what happened was now there's this huge boycott of
Patreon itself by everybody who sends the money for anybody,
and that hurts all creators, all the Create tours,
and now they're getting all bent out of shape. And they're
calling in and bitching and moaning. And they're talking to
apparently the the patron there. Shall I get some? No,
no, no, your face? No, it's the it's the it's the boss of the
video, the platform protection team and I read, I read the
whole transcripts, warrior. I read the whole transcript. Yeah.
Transcript, it's funny.
And it's resulting in a lot of people that were making, I don't
know, let's say they've made $10,000 a month. Now they're
making six or five, they're getting getting killed. And
that's because of the reliance on one thing is it's a real, I
think it's a I think was just a mistake in judgment to use these
guys in the first place. But okay, but this is all because of
these conferences that tell you to do this, and these
conferences that tell you to do that. And they're just the blind
leading the blind believe me.
Well, I think you're right that the conferences are incredibly
unhelpful, and they steer people in very traditional ways.
There's no no innovation. And after self reflection, I
understand what my issue is. I think I really had some hope
coming from a quite a career in mainstream broadcasting, radio
and television. When when podcasting kind of organically
grew. The biggest downside is that it exploded because of the
iPod. I always found that to be a detractor. And I'd never named
it podcasting. Danny Gregoire, as far as I'm concerned, named
that and I think he's fantastic and really helped a lot. But it
always tied it to the iPod. And now we've moved beyond that. But
I had hoped that that people would see decentralizing as a
way forward for the internet. And we've we've in 1415 years,
we're right back to, I think ground zero, because people are
relying now on all of these corporate commercial places, for
platforms where you don't need this now, do you get the
algorithmic amplification that can explode you virally? No, but
for most people, you don't even deserve to to have an actual
audience of any size or make any money because you probably just
make shit. I would prefer to see people using decentralized
systems building up core audiences who we've proven it
will support you to the to the degree that is necessary and
valid and move forward that we got a lot of brain power smart
people you know, Reuben and Peterson these are smart guys.
They're arguing the fact that they don't see how idiotic it is
what they're arguing about and how futile it is and how they
will never win over this instead of promoting open source
decentralized systems that are in claiming bit backer you know
you can do payment systems with crypto and makes it simpler for
people I can think that's my frustration is just why are all
these smart people
me I get the platform and create you
get to work.
I think that's my problem. I can see that that is your problem.
You have a problem and that's it. Yeah, but this is not a new
problem with you know, but it's also it doesn't just because you
have this problem doesn't mean that these issues aren't real
for these people who have been I would say it's like the when
they had the housing and mortgage crisis and then that
one guy on CNBC says all these idiots that took out all these
mortgages, screw them, screw. They deserve to go go broke.
These people that took out these mortgages during the housing
crisis. were advised used to take out these housing these
mortgages used by experts as podcast conferences. They were
advised by experts to do this. Oh, don't worry about it. You
know, the price is gonna go up, you're gonna be able to pay if
they were advised and then did because they were. I wouldn't
say they were stupid, because you get advised to do stuff. You
don't know anything about it. Well, yeah, you should maybe
have to change your tires. I mean, yeah, it looks like then
you need new tires. Well, okay. There's a lot of advice out
there. And because it's bad advice, you're bent out of
shape. No, no,
I'm I am not. I'm just frustrated by over a decade of
people doing the same stupid things and always being
surprised when it doesn't work out or worked out in a way that
is not expected to them. Yeah, smart people. It's the it's the
mind.
I was taken aback when I saw Peterson and Rubin doing that
video. moaning and groaning about Patreon.
Yeah, I think that's what pushed me over the edge. I'm like, holy
crap, what do you what are you bitching about, move on, you
know, build up a simultaneous, you've got your YouTube and
whatever, you got your Patreon. start mirroring it somewhere
else, where it's just a lot harder to be kicked off and
build up the audience. And guess what you might actually help a
lot of creators in in the process.
Well, there you go. There's your idealists, ladies and gentlemen,
that is
it. This one person who was deep platformed, which did show up in
the New York in the New York Times, but was not discussed in
the way I would have thought it was. This came out what was
yesterday 23rd. Yeah, yesterday, Facebook has suspended Jonathan
Morgan, the chief executive of a top Social Media Research Forum
firm after reports that he and others engaged in operation to
spread disinformation during the special election in Alabama last
year. So the guy who runs the company that authored the report
that is seen as the proof that the Russians suppress 3 million
black Americans from voting has now now by Facebook's own
standards, been accused of the exact same practice with the
exact same amount of money $100,000. And they've deep
platformed him for it. But I guess everything still valid
with the report, and we should not we should just look the
other way or just not talk about the report anymore.
That's well, there's the well, that's irony. That's great irony
as fantastic. I love it. But this,
I have a three parter
know what Facebook thinks it's doing but they're just in panic
mode. It must be having meetings.
Hey, wait a minute. You said you said Facebook looked like a buy?
Oh, no, I didn't say it wasn't a bad I didn't. I'm not talking
about the stock.
You said it would never go away. There's no replacement.
There isn't yet USA Today.
This is a really a horrible piece of video and I fix it as
much as possible to get the interviewers questions in. He
talked to a couple of middle school kids about social
networks, which one they use and what they like and what they
feel about it. And here's his report from his USA Today
website.
Say that Facebook had a challenging 2018 would of course
be an understatement with all the hackers, the apologies and
the hot water with politicians. How's that playing with the
younger generation? They couldn't care.
I know what I mean, like, I know I know you. You're really young,
but like
other old people know like I have no a lot of my friends have
like Instagram, but I have no clue any of like my friends that
use Facebook by now like Snapchat, Twitter, all on
Twitter, but mostly Snapchat, Instagram, but they never use
Facebook.
Is that because it's an old person's
skip over that genre of social media feel like oh, Instagram,
Snapchat, skip over Facebook. And they kind of just go on so.
Privacy. Phone goes everywhere you go. You're being tracked
everywhere. Everywhere.
Creepy. That's kind of scary. setting where you can turn it
off. But I feel like it's always watching you.
Like it hasn't drive. It's just staring at me while I'm on it.
Yeah, like even when I'm making weird faces.
I think it's weird that I have screen recording now. So like,
It watches everything you do on the screen, like if you want it
to so I'm like,
I love with these. I have not read a report anywhere about
this. I don't think they're wrong. These kids like well, you
know, you can have screen recording where they see
everything you're doing on the screen. Hell yeah. But it's not
one of the things discussed in Congress. But these kids seem to
intuitively know what's happening and there's the yes
you can turn it off but the AI is Still watching me.
I love to tape over it. Oh my
My mom is on her phone 24/7 She's on it so much that, um,
that she doesn't even want me looking at her activity to a
point yet. It's gotten to a point where it's like scary.
There you go. There's the real issue. There's the children, and
it's influenced by the parents.
It's fantastic. OTG people
well, the kids aren't stupid.
No, they're not. They're not
the UK government.
I think they already deployed this. They had facial they were
testing facial recognition in public or on the public and
around the the Westminster area. This is this facial recognition
is really happening a lot. The Amazons doorbell what is their
dog, they have a doorbell like ring, I guess. And whatever it
is, and now they're they're building in facial recognition.
But what, but it will also do facial recognition of people
just on the street outside your door. They'll just he'll just
keep doing that. Wow. That's
okay, well, let's get back to politics. Really? Yeah. That's
all I got. Well, I do have some funny stuff, though. I have
Maxine Waters triggered Have you seen this clip?
No, probably not every day
in every way. And the best way to do that is to stop talking
about discrimination and start talking about the nation. We're
coming together as the people in spite of what you say. Thank
you, gentlemen, I yield back.
gentleman's time has expired. Members are reminded to address
their remarks to the chair, the gentleman from Texas reserves
Gentlelady, from California.
Thank you very much. The gentleman, Mr. Kelly, please do
not leave. Because I want you to know that I am more offended as
an African American woman than you will ever be. And this
business about making America great again, it is your
president that's dividing this country. And don't talk to me
about the fact that we don't understand what happens on the
ultimate No, I will not give no I will not give okay. That we
don't understand. That's the attitude that's been given
towards women. Since time and time again, gentle
lady will suspend. The chair wishes to remind all members
that they are to address their remarks to the chair.
He will continue but don't stop me in the middle when you did
stop him in the middle. So I shall continue. Don't you dare
talk to me like that. And think that somehow women don't
understand what goes on on the floor of automobile dealers
minded to direct her remarks to the chair, the gentleman
continue to do that. However, I don't appreciate that you did
not interrupt him when he was making those outrageous remarks
about him knowing more about discrimination than I know about
discrimination. I resent that. And I resent the remark about
making America great again. He's down here making the speech for
this dishonorable President of the United States of America.
Having said that, I reserve the balance of my time and no, I do
not yield not one second. One second. Not one second. She knew
my time. By time
ah, she is the gift that keeps on giving.
She's the best. Hmm.
I have another one.
Well, actually, before we do that, I'd just like to do a
little quick yellow vest update since that, that Oh, yes.
Let's get back out of the country. Yeah, well,
well, yes. And again, the reason is because no one has really
reporting on it. In fact, the propaganda is now out.
yellow vest, protesters changed tactics on Saturday. For the day
of action in Paris builders act five of what have been violent
confrontations in the Capitol. Initially, the Capitol was quiet
as turnout was much lower. But then pop up, protests began
catching the police on the hop at the Louvre around the statues
and dark. On March number two more than a few 100 all streets
remained open, and fewer shops were boarded up.
So the voiceover is actually saying there weren't as many
people it was a lot calmer, not as many shops are boarded up.
And meanwhile the video is showing people spraying cops
with fire extinguishers throwing electric scooters at them.
Nothing Don't worry about.
outside Paris I planned a demonstration at the Palace of
Versailles attracted just a handful of demonstrators it had
been shut in advance for the day. This is the sixth straight
week of protests and concessions made by President Macron appear
to have taken the sting out of the movement. But it has cost
lives. The latest a man in purple on his car hit a lawyer
that has been stopped in the road by a picket line, bringing
to 10 the number of deaths mostly in traffic accidents.
This is propaganda of the highest order from EURO NEWS.
Because what really happened is that a lot of people who came
from outside Paris in the first few weeks of these protests have
now started these protests in their own towns and cities. This
is this has spread all throughout France. The YouTube
videos show everything this and I see fear in these cops eyes
and there's real beating going on back and forth and just the
funniest thing is when the throwing the electric scooters
at the cops, it's spreading the Netherlands we got a boots on
the ground from Lucas Tahlia ma that it's spreading to the
Hague, Amsterdam Rotterdam Amman is not huge but it's getting
there Portugal also jumping in
the morning for the last two hours dozens of yellow vest
protesters have been blocking as you can see the major accesses
to the city of Porto they managed to block the roads for
some minutes then the police came and intervened and made
them go away but to what they have been doing since then, is
to cross over and over the road in order to block the traffic.
Yeah, it's kind of an interesting protest so they just
go to the pedestrian crossing and they just keep crossing I'd
never seen I think it's a great idea never seen it ever thought
of the idea yesterday was circular just everyone's there's
people crossing from left to right from right to left and
then they just cross out about and they go back in the in the
other direction. And it's very effective.
And you got four you got a four way stop thing. You can just go
around in a square Yeah, keep walking. Do you have enough
people you clog the whole thing up forever in
both directions and it really is. It's impressive to me. I
don't know about the Portuguese but the French just always
impressed me with what they're doing and if cops the troll room
pointed out cops are pulling their guns I'm not rubber bullet
guns like pulling their side arms that you know that they
feel that threatened but the media is still out all right
McCrone fixed it everything's good it's nothing to worry
about. I wish we were like that in America. We only come out to
be but most of the laws have changed and make it very
difficult to get anything started you can't have a general
strike in the United States and the unions have fallen apart
they've were corrupt you
know, we've been mind controlled. We the only time we
go out on the street is for a TV a pink pussy hat like oh, okay,
now we'll go on March. Sad. My girlfriend she's but just looks
like I think this is a much, much deeper much broader than is
being reported. It's hard to tell from what you can see on on
YouTube, just the scale of it. But if you really read the
reports itself, this is not diminishing. It's growing. It's
just spreading out. Yeah, we're good at flash mobs that we'll be
doing America. Hey, let's dance. We're pissed off. We're gonna
surprise dance on Yeah. Yeah.
So you know, we've been accused of being a Trump apologist.
Podcast. Oh, really? I've heard it. Bullcrap of course. But just
to prove it. I got a kick out of this. hate Trump medley. Have
you heard this one? I don't know. Where is it? Nobody knows
more.
Wait, is this about him about his big brain? I'm sure. I'm
sure that's something. Nobody. Okay, where did you pick this up
for who made it?
You know, I don't know the source of it. It's just been
floating around.
Maybe super. I got one of those two that I'll play after this.
Okay, let's listen. Nobody knows more than Trump. medley.
Nobody can do it like me? Nobody. Nobody can do it. Like,
honestly, nobody's stronger than me. Nobody has better toys than
I do. Is nobody bigger or better at military than I am. Nobody
loves the Bible more than I do. Nobody builds walls better than
me. Nobody's better people with disabilities that nobody's
fighting for the veterans like I'm fighting for the veterans.
There's nobody that's done so much for equality as I have.
There's nobody more pro Israel than I am. There's nobody more
conservative than me. There is nobody that respects women more
than I do. Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald
Trump is. Nobody's ever had crowds like Trump his head.
There's nobody that understands the horror of nuclear better
than me. Nobody even knows understands that for me, it's
called devaluation, the sale of the uranium that nobody knows
what it means. I know what it means. Nobody knows more about
trade than me. Nobody knows the game better than I do. But he's
in the history of this country has ever known so much about
infrastructure is Donald Trump. I know the h one B, I know the H
two B, nobody knows it better than me. Nobody knows
politicians better than I do. Nobody knows more about taxes
than I do. Nobody knows more about debt than I do. Nobody
knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it.
I'll tell you what, whatever he did, he became president doing
it. I'll give him that much. I have a I have the the counter to
this. This is Rachel Maddow. So I'm put I think this might be
super cut. So we'll put this in the show notes. Someone put this
together. This is one episode of Rachel Maddow. Just one episode.
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United States in particular Soviet empire, Russia, Russia,
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Soviet Union or Russia undermine the West Soviet Communist
communists on the left Russia.
That does it for us tonight. We will see you again tomorrow.
I'm gonna show us move to no agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. Russia,
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
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Did you see this? Malcolm I missed this is Malcolm Nance on
with Brian Williams on MSNBC about the Russian face bag
disinformation campaign. No, oh my god. Well, what? Well, I want
to play some clips from this guy. He just he took it to such
an incredible level. That I had no idea what was really going on
in the United States how far the Russians have come in.
Oh, really? Yes. went outside now. Malcolm Nance
with Brian Williams, Brian Williams, who we know lied. He
lied about a lot of things. And he was the the main guy at NBC
News and now he's making millions now he's at MSNBC and
he gets through the break. It does the 11th hour which I kind
of like actually watch it if I bump up into it. Here's his
intro to Malcolm Nance with his creds.
new report out tonight reveals that Russian disinformation
teams have targeted the Special Counsel oh two reports
commissioned by the Senate Intelligence Committee and
focused on the internet research agency and troll farm. Robert
Mueller indicted last February according to one of them. Well,
what is clear is that all of the messaging clearly sought to
benefit the Republican Party and specifically Donald Trump. The
goal was to reinforce tribalism to polarize and divide to
exploit societal fractures blur the lines between reality and
fiction erode our trust in media entities and the information
environment, in government in each other. And in democracy
itself. The interference is still active and ongoing. And
notably, the trolls have tried to create and amplify the
narrative that the whole
imagined by millions if you'd asked him five years ago, do you
think you will ever speak a sentence you're talking about
trolls
and notably, the trolls have tried to create an amplify the
narrative that the whole investigation was nonsense that
Comey and Mueller were corrupt, and that the emerging Russia
stories were a weird conspiracy pushed by liberal crybabies who
else the online posts received nearly 264 million engagements
across platforms that includes likes, retweets, shares,
and whatever. So bunch of bull crap. Alright, so bring in
Malcolm nancies. He's written a book about how the Russians
crowned king Donald what Russia
has done here. And where the true brilliance of this
intelligence operation comes from, is way back in the early
2000s, the Russian military conducted a strategic study and
started carrying out a disinformation plan in which
they said that instead of carrying out kinetic warfare
against your enemies, the best thing we can do is create a
disinformation and frame around that nation.
What's an addition formation frame?
I have no idea what he's talking about.
I like what he's doing here. It goes back to 2000. I didn't
these Russians man to the
point where over time as we are constantly tearing them apart
and feeding them with false information. They would actually
welcome an invasion. So Russia has done that to the United
States. Yeah.
So we're welcoming the Russians come marching the Red Army. Yes,
eventually. Maybe we're at that point. Maybe it's happened.
Maybe that's what Trump Is he is the invasion,
an invasion? So Russia has done that to the United States. And
it began way before 2016. As a matter of fact, the earliest
references I have with relation to Donald Trump shows that it
started back in 2011. With Maria Butina. And the NRA contexts
contexts with the fundamentalist Christian Right. And the alt
right in the United States, Russia was pushing these
disinformation themes then. Then in 2013, they stood up the
Russian Federation Internet Research Agency, which built all
of these memes and tropes, which becames Ralph Roos missiles of
fake news and disinformation, designed to do what it did
today, take 1/3 of the United States population, and make them
refused to believe what they see before their very eyes, and may
have elected a president in the process.
Wow, I don't even know where to start to unpack that. Started in
2011. They had there was
some guy in a white coat and a butterfly net standing behind
him.
Maybe in this last clip,
the Russian Internet Research Agency was a subcontractor to
Russian military intelligence in the FSB, Russia's national
security agency, and that was done at the cost of less than a
couple of cruise missiles. They now own the mindset of 1/3 of
this nation. And by doing that, they have managed to now make us
not believe anything that we believed before that diversity
was an American factor, which made us greater, they have
played on the themes of far right conspiracy theorists in
the 1960, the John Birch Society, the sideline group, you
know, in the farthest extremes of the libertarian party's
limit. This guy is actually saying that the Russians looked
at looked at the landscape and said, if we can bring back the
John Birch Society, people will go for it. They'll be all in and
they succeed. A third of the country now believes what they
want us to say
of course, being the most anti Russia operation. Makes sense?
They have amplified racism to the point where the alt right
Steve Bannon own creation of gamers is now the wholly owned
subsidiary of the Trump campaign. And our believers in
David Duke, the Klu Klux Klan, Richard and Richard Spencer, the
neo Nazi and Robert Spencer, the Islamist to the point where
they're mainstreamed. This is how effective this information
warfare campaign has been carried out. And let me tell
you, this report shows how they went after to suppress the
African American vote. And there is no doubt in my mind or
anybody else is in the intelligence community that
doesn't believe that it took American citizens to assist them
God really getting down to where these voters were who needed to
be suppressed, and they did it in such a fashion. One of their
Twitter groups had 366,000 followers on it.
Malcolm Nance, this is why we asked you all the time to come
on this broadcast. Scary stuff but it needs to be said needs to
be heard. Thank you so much for joining us to be
heard Aries let's play on it.
Wow. Malcom Nance. This is why we ask you all the time to come
on this broadcast. Scary stuff but it needs to be said needs to
be heard. Thank you, sir. So much for joining us.
Scary stuff. Baby needs to be sad needs to be heard. Thank
you. Thank you for your courage. Malcolm Nance
wasn't repressed African vote should be addressed. Let's say
you're African American and you didn't vote. Well, is it because
you're a repressed voting? Because you didn't want to vote?
It's because you're so stupid. You fell for the Russian
propaganda. That's what's being said it's it's a racist.
It's an outrageous, you raise an insult to the black community.
There are plenty of people that don't vote because they look at
the candidate say I don't care. I'm not voting for either one of
them. So they don't vote. And didn't know none of the blacks
liked Hillary they do wasn't terrible husband, it wasn't a
Barack, they'd come out to vote for him. And they weren't coming
out to vote to some did come out to vote for Trump. But you know,
they were outliers. Yeah. So it's not some plot because
otherwise they would have all poured into the voting booths to
vote for Hillary. That's what the thesis is. That's what the
underlying thinking is of that comment. Crap.
It's racist. Maybe because he's black it can't be racist when he
says it maybe that's okay. Oh, this
guy's black. Yeah. Now, never guessed it. Yeah.
Yeah. Ah, yes.
Scary stuff
needs to be said. That should be a thing to be said. So that's
the way it goes you say if I say scary stuff so you say needs to
be said needs to be said alright so let's try it again scary
stuff needs to be said. Yeah, good. We're on it. We can take
the show on the
road and we hit it is guaranteed take the show on
the road.
So here is Gutierrez, grandstanding and Congress who
is this good arrows. This is good here is that these the
radical Latino representative from Chicago, and he's always
making his scene. He's just hates everything. But the kick I
get out of this. This is I'm not I got 45 seconds. I'm not gonna
take my 45 seconds. And he takes a minute. 20
Oh, okay. I saw this. Yeah. I saw this. Douchebag all right.
He's going after a Bridgette Neil's that. He's going after
Neale
Hurston. Kirsten Nielsen, who by the way, did not look good at
start just as an executive producer mode for a second. She
looked different. She didn't look good. She did something was
wrong about her whole look. And during this, this interrogation.
I didn't see that. Yeah, I was sorry. She looked like normal.
No, there was something weird about I have to go back and say
maybe that she's changed her hair. She's on her way out.
She's on her way out. She's
done. She's very happy that goose good Tara's grandstanding.
And then I got a second clip of her responding. And right in the
middle of her response he just walks out is when you hear a
word of it, he's just guy is the worst.
I have 45 seconds I won't take them off. 40 crazy is repugnant
to me and astonishing to me that during Christmas,
more context is needed because not everyone understands
politics and American politics. This is Kristin Nielsen. She's
the Director of Homeland Security. She is in overseas
ice. And she is responsible for anything that is done with
immigration control and prosecute prosecution now.
Immigration, border, border security, ripping children from
mother's arms. That's what I meant to say
I have 45 seconds I won't take them all. bullcrap. But it is
repugnant to me and astonishing to me, that during Christmas, I
like to call them the holiday seasons to be inclusive, but
during Christmas, because the majority always wants to just
call it Christmas at during Christmas, to say God to do a
time in which we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, a Jesus
Christ who had to flee for his life. With Mary and Joseph,
thank God, there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking
refuge in I just
we can, it's too late. But maybe for next year, we can do a new
nativity scene with a wall
and it was fleeing
with Mary and Joseph, thank God, there wasn't a wall that stopped
him from seeking refuge in Egypt. Thank God, that wall
wasn't there. And thank God, there wasn't administration like
this, or he would have to have perished on the 28th on the day
of innocence. When Herod ordered the murder of every child under
two years of age, maybe I haven't gone a lot of Bible
school. But I know that. No,
we're pretty sure you haven't gone to Bible school.
Thank God, shame on everybody that separates children and
allows them to stay at the other side of the border fearing
death. Fearing hunger, fearing sickness, shame on us for
wearing our badge of Christianity during Christmas,
and allow the Secretary to come here and lie. Thank you.
Time of gentleman has expired a couple of things. One, how did
he if he had 45 seconds, how come they let him go for an
extra 45
is some seniority rule where you've been around long enough
to kind of give you a little more leeway.
Okay. And the second part of this, what he's talking about, I
believe, is that the administration cut some deal
with Mexico, that all people seeking asylum in the United
States coming through the Mexican border. I think he's
probably talking more about Tijuana that the Mexican
government has agreed that they will house people and while
they're waiting for their asylum on their side, yeah. And so is
is Tijuana now such a horrible place because he it sounds like
sickness, and what did he say? He said a whole bunch of things
about it.
Yeah, I have been hungry during sickness. Shame on us. So
do you want to I mean, seem like it's that bad. Right. Alright,
so yeah, was
that bad in the 40s? Maybe I don't think it's that bad now.
All right. So then she she they throw it to her and she's just
kind of rolling her eyes. This guy's you know, the guy As a
lunatic, I don't know how the Chicagoans can keep voting this
clown and but okay listens to what she has to say sector would
care to respond to any literally than
to say that calling me a liar fighting words, I'm not a liar,
we've never had a policy for family separation, I'm happy to
walk the gentleman through it again, a policy of family
separation would mean that any family that I encountered in the
interior, I would separate, it would mean that any family that
I found at a port of entry, I would separate, it would mean
that every single family that I found illegally crossing, we
would separate. We did none of those, what we did do is uphold
the laws that Congress has passed. And we prosecuted those
who choose to come here illegally. As far as not being
compassionate. Let me just tell you what I have done. And of
course, he couldn't be bothered to stay so I'm happy to tell the
rest of the committee. Hey, walked up at it.
That's fine. Knowing these guys is grand standard.
Kind of, there's a new spook that I don't know if she's been
around or we just loose. Yeah, and there's a new school. Well,
we don't have a new spook jingle. I'm gonna see what her
name was not her name is Samantha of vino Grodd. And
she's another
fast traveler last name. I look her up. Victor
India, November, Oscar, golf, Romeo. Alpha Delta,
do letters. We're not we don't we're not on a CB. Don't you
ever
call me a C beer again? Vinogradov v i n o g r a d?
You know, it's interesting, Samantha, because you've spent a
lot of time in the Middle East you understand walls that work
walls that don't work? Let me put that tweet that the
President just posted. What he says the steel slat barrier.
There you see this steel fence in effect that the President
wants to build. But you know how individuals if they want to get
into the United States from Mexico, get around a fence, a
steel slat barrier like this?
Well, first of all, there's spikes at the top of this fence.
I feel like the president Googled Middle Ages and tweeted
something out rather than consulting with actual security
experts are architects about what could work in this kind of
scenario. I was in Ramallah and I saw the wall in the
Palestinian territories between the Palestinian territories and
Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly spoke with the
President earlier this week and said Build a wall. It'll help
well guess what terrorists and other illegal immigrants in the
Middle East do they build tunnels under walls, those
spikes don't deter that kind of activity. And I just want to
point out, the President's own State Department doesn't even
think that this wall is or steel slats is going to solve the
problem of illegal immigration. On Monday, they issued a whole
strategy for combating illegal immigration that has nothing to
do with a wall and some of those very same employees will be
furloughed if this government shutdown.
Don't forgive me, bro. I remember now. She went. Yeah, go
ahead. And she spoke. She looks like a spoon.
Well, here, I'm gonna just read off a few things in you tell me
all right. He's got an MA in studies from Georgetown. She
worked for the US Department of the Treasury in Baghdad, and
then in various positions for the administration of Obama,
where she worked in the National Security Council as the director
for International Economics, senior adviser to the National
Security Adviser. Then in 2013, went to work for Goldman Sachs,
focusing on public private sector partnerships, a spa the
spook spot.
Everybody wants to spot the spoon.
Now. There is a thought going around a room or an idea that
you weren't member when they had the caravan come rushing up. You
know, they're charging us from Guatemala. And a lot of them
went to the Texas side and a lot most of them with the Tijuana
toward Tijuana. And it was Mattis, who was told as another
reason they got maybe got rid of him. He was told to send some
troops down there. He didn't want to do it, send some troops
down there. And it's rumored that the reason he sent the
troops to Texas, instead of where the action was, which is
to Juana was because there's something like supposedly,
supposedly 3000 tunnels underneath the walls and
barriers in Texas where these guys are sneaking in. And the
idea was, is there was some code or something that came out that
said, we're going to storm the country through these tunnels.
And so the army we had to be there to keep that from
happening. don't know anything about it more than that, but
there's I agree that the most of the action of the cocaine and
the rest of is all through tunnels and they build their
tunnel builders dig and dig and dig in. Right you know that
fence is going to do anything about that.
Now I was reading the, the newish the newer book of from
since I got the soap I picked up the book again. Theodore
Kaczynski, it's called the anti technology revolution. and it is
his version of how we should combat the technology. Yeah,
just combat technology in general. And he talks again
there about the unintended consequences of technology. I
call it wall or slanted fence or whatever you want to call it is,
of course, a version of technology. And, and we have no
idea Trump does No, no one knows. I think the tunnels,
yeah, that could happen. And a whole bunch of other things
could happen because of this wall that we do not know about.
So it's not quite as black and white as everyone sees it. And I
agree. I think the tunnels is actually pretty. Yeah. I think
tunnels in our future. Tunnels. Don't you think so? Yeah.
Tunnels tunnels are in our future.
In our future with Elon Musk and his tunnel.
Yeah, the more I think the more I think about having a tunnel in
Los Angeles. The stupider I think it is,
Oh, it's fine. It's not fine. Apparently, they have trouble.
Because the last the Angelenos are so freaked out about
earthquakes, and is a big one coming, that they're not using
the subway, they've been a big subway system in LA, which runs
all over the place. It's when it's not like New York or
Chicago even or anything, like in Europe, or even Russia, but
it's there. And the engineers won't go, you know, they don't
want to be in that thing when the whole thing collapses,
right? Like free time, even in the bay area where we have the
same problem. And when we go under the I'm always in fact,
the kids we talked about this when you're in the BART, which
is our subway elevated. And when you go under the under the bay
to get to San Francisco. Everybody kind of holds their
breath for the seven minutes it takes
I can imagine why.
But it's packed with people and they go when they do it. I don't
know what the point of the LA one is. It just doesn't seem to
have any real rhyme or reason. I haven't been on it, have you?
No. No. Like to go on it.
I tend to just stay home and yell at the chemtrails Yeah,
that's that's
that's pretty much what I do. Yeah, but the camera I stopped
yelling at Fox News. Just yell at the chemtrails now. We have
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non Christmas related ones. Oh, yes. So we appreciate that.
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