1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,430 John C. Dvorak: Hey, hi, I'm gonna be gay. I'm gonna be 2 00:00:02,430 --> 00:00:06,180 officiating the wedding. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:06,180 --> 00:00:09,150 Adam Curry: It's Thursday May 23 2019. This is your award 4 00:00:09,150 --> 00:00:12,750 winning game nation media assassination episode 1114 5 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:16,470 Unknown: This is no agenda pitched and 6 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:19,350 Adam Curry: happy broadcasting live from the frontier of 7 00:00:19,350 --> 00:00:22,230 Austin, Texas capital drone Star State in the morning everybody. 8 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:23,610 I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:25,770 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where 10 00:00:25,770 --> 00:00:29,730 and it's been so wet. This is gonna be a fire season. I'm John 11 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:32,580 Cena buzzkill 12 00:00:34,350 --> 00:00:37,470 Adam Curry: don't even want to ask how that works? Because it 13 00:00:37,470 --> 00:00:38,520 sounds like in California 14 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:42,210 John C. Dvorak: Water lots of weeds grow intolerant right 15 00:00:43,140 --> 00:00:45,120 there's a big fire and everyone's oh my god would 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:51,150 happen now this fire occur I got it. When I was a kid. We used to 17 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:54,060 they used to do controlled burns all over the state did they do 18 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:56,850 in Texas? Yeah, they do them everywhere but just 19 00:00:58,740 --> 00:01:01,050 Adam Curry: California. Really? 20 00:01:01,380 --> 00:01:04,950 John C. Dvorak: It's always a fire. What's the point? 21 00:01:05,010 --> 00:01:07,200 Adam Curry: Well remember we have that we have the diary from 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,530 the guy who went there and like you know 1850 Or a round and 23 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:15,270 round the 49 Gold Rush and described it as a hell of fire 24 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:19,260 and flood and earthquakes and I guess I guess that hasn't really 25 00:01:19,260 --> 00:01:21,870 changed much know if we got Hollywood 26 00:01:22,380 --> 00:01:24,240 John C. Dvorak: it was they were trying to change it but they did 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,560 controlled burns. 28 00:01:28,620 --> 00:01:34,170 Adam Curry: Well, now I remember why we have two shows a week. We 29 00:01:34,170 --> 00:01:37,530 can't We can't there's too much going on in the world for just 30 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:41,520 one show. There's a lot I don't know about you, but I gotta 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,930 John C. Dvorak: do three shows. 32 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:48,330 Adam Curry: I got China News. Vaccines Green New Deal. 33 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:53,010 Eurovision contest, EU elections, Australian elections. 34 00:01:53,370 --> 00:01:54,810 It's a start 35 00:01:54,810 --> 00:01:57,270 John C. Dvorak: off with a big news den. Oh, what's that? 36 00:01:58,260 --> 00:02:00,900 Eurovision it was it was your Hollanders who? 37 00:02:01,710 --> 00:02:05,520 Adam Curry: So this was on Saturday, they had the big 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,270 Eurovision Song Contest. This was the the evening before my 39 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:13,050 wedding day. So we there was no way although we were in the same 40 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:15,780 place. Technically, we've could have done a snarky stream 41 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,280 watching the show and then just commenting on it. But that will 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,000 have to wait for next year. But that may not happen. Because the 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,060 Netherlands one which I don't know if 44 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:29,130 John C. Dvorak: that was a folded competition, because 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,860 Adam Curry: well, no, no, no, no, this is something else is 46 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:34,710 happening here. So you have to understand this is the 47 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:38,280 Eurovision broadcasting project. It's about the broadcasters. As 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,980 much as it's about the song itself. It's actually not even 49 00:02:40,980 --> 00:02:43,500 supposed to be about the artists but about the songwriter and 50 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:46,710 composer and the producer. That's kind of been forgotten. 51 00:02:47,190 --> 00:02:49,800 And now it's just a huge show element. In fact, Madonna 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,900 performed live on the show, which was so off key during the 53 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,200 live show, but then magically fixed on her own YouTube 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,750 channel. It was fantastic. I don't know how that worked. 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,750 Little auto tune here and there. Maybe she even went into the 56 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:06,480 studio the middle of the night. Oh yeah, it was a huge 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,640 John C. Dvorak: difference to do an A B comparison. Ah, 58 00:03:08,970 --> 00:03:12,030 Adam Curry: peep. It's all over the all over YouTube the abs 59 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:14,760 like oh, I actually should have gotten that I apologize. I 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,860 John C. Dvorak: guess a V I hope to say A B. 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:22,500 Adam Curry: Now you said a B. I heard AB so the way it works is 62 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:28,260 the winner. The contest is hosted in the country of the 63 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:33,120 winner in the next year this year was in Israel. And this guy 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:41,280 Duncan, one Dunkin Donuts, no. Duke and, in fact, they do say 65 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,830 Dunkin in Holland like they say Dunkin Donuts Dunkin Donuts, die 66 00:03:46,830 --> 00:03:52,050 that is divorce, but Dunkin Donuts. Smith did that. So it's 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,890 Duncan Lawrence arcade, which I thought was a pretty boring 68 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:59,730 song. But this guy is interesting because he won the 69 00:03:59,730 --> 00:04:04,380 voice in the Netherlands. So we literally came from nothing and 70 00:04:04,380 --> 00:04:07,590 then went straight to the top of the charts. But now here's what 71 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:12,810 happens because the Eurovision broadcast, broad caste, union 72 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:18,330 gig. There's always a big deal about who's going to host the 73 00:04:18,330 --> 00:04:25,500 show. And within an hour, or maybe it's the next morning. For 74 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:31,260 me it was an hour of the the winner being declared people 75 00:04:31,260 --> 00:04:34,320 already calling for me to be one of the hosts of next year's 76 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:34,710 show. 77 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:39,000 John C. Dvorak: Can you believe it? They got wind of our scheme 78 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Adam Curry: to like, no, no, we can't have him snarking Let's 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,550 pay him Let's pay him to get him to do a an official 80 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:48,120 presentation. And I'm thinking No, no, no, no. I'll host your 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:54,090 show with my co host John C. Dvorak. Yeah. I'll do the Dutch 82 00:04:54,090 --> 00:04:57,090 translations where necessary. Did you imagine 83 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:01,680 John C. Dvorak: you go It actually we'd actually do a bang 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,080 up job, but you get the gig if you can get 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,660 Adam Curry: it. Well, it's the way this came and I think it's a 86 00:05:06,660 --> 00:05:09,330 confluence of things. I was a little bit in the news in 87 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:13,290 Holland because of the wedding. Madonna was on the show. I'm 88 00:05:13,290 --> 00:05:17,040 famous in the Netherlands for saying Madonna, where everyone 89 00:05:17,220 --> 00:05:21,120 was pronouncing Madonna. So in the 80s when I was at 90 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,990 television, you're like, 91 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:23,610 John C. Dvorak: oh my God listens for pronouncing 92 00:05:23,610 --> 00:05:25,830 something right to this day people 93 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:29,310 Adam Curry: still come up to me and go hey, Carrie, what's going 94 00:05:29,310 --> 00:05:34,860 on? She's so you know, I think the confluence of those things 95 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:38,250 kind of like oh yeah, let's get that guy well, anyway, I except 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:47,220 already choose me. It will be so funny. So thanks for coming to 97 00:05:47,220 --> 00:05:48,240 the to the wedding. 98 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:50,490 John C. Dvorak: Yes, we should talk about the wedding. You had 99 00:05:50,490 --> 00:05:53,640 a big advantage the wedding of the decade Yes, 100 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:56,370 Adam Curry: it was bigger than lady dies wedding. I understand. 101 00:05:56,430 --> 00:05:57,960 It was wet. Which shocked 102 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,530 John C. Dvorak: me is that so here's the here's just insider 103 00:06:01,530 --> 00:06:03,630 for the people out there. So they know what would kind of a 104 00:06:03,630 --> 00:06:04,500 jerk I am. 105 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:09,420 Adam Curry: What do you have 10 minutes of the show. So I can 106 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:09,810 continue 107 00:06:10,140 --> 00:06:14,160 John C. Dvorak: to I showed up at their little pre event late 108 00:06:14,310 --> 00:06:16,110 because I had the time mixed up. 109 00:06:16,110 --> 00:06:18,930 Adam Curry: But let me just say how this felt fashionably late. 110 00:06:18,930 --> 00:06:21,870 Hold on, hold on from the inside. This was supposed to be 111 00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:25,020 from four to six only for people coming from out of state out of 112 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:28,890 town out of country. Yeah. And four to six. Because you know, 113 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:32,310 and it was still like 35 people. So it's a lot of people to have 114 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:36,750 in your house. And it was like, Hey, he's divorced. Cummings. 115 00:06:37,620 --> 00:06:41,220 Horowitz was there with his wife and David Foley was there and he 116 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:44,130 has family and lots of people who listen to I don't know, man, 117 00:06:44,130 --> 00:06:48,570 I'm texting Mimi. She's like, No, I'm in Phoenix. Okay. Do you 118 00:06:48,570 --> 00:06:52,080 know what John is? Now? I don't know where he is. And then 119 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,750 people are starting to leave and you know, I'm waving at him and 120 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:58,590 all of a sudden I'm out with Horowitz with his wife, Jill. 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,720 And it's 730 which is you know, and I expected it to go long and 122 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:10,560 careening down the hill comes the John C. Dvorak in his white 123 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,180 rav4 With license plate LG why? That was for runner up with 124 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:20,700 license plate LG. Why skirt skirt? Come on everybody. Here I 125 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:27,750 am John C. Dvorak. So, yes, fashionably late. But and Joe 126 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:31,170 Horwitz. She apparently turned around went back in and went 127 00:07:31,170 --> 00:07:33,600 that Tina went on the you never gonna guess? I guess we're 128 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,240 staying in Devorah. I've just showed up. She was ready to go 129 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:39,600 home. 130 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,630 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So. So because of that moment, you 131 00:07:45,930 --> 00:07:48,540 began to assume that I was just going to be late when I'm not a 132 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:53,760 very punctual as a person. So. So the wedding is what started 133 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,730 six. And I said, What time did you get a wedding? I get there. 134 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,010 No, you've got to be there. You said by 530. And then 135 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:04,860 Adam Curry: the next day on Sunday? You mean? Yeah. I wasn't 136 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:09,540 sure. Hold on. Hold on. I wasn't done with Saturday. You come in 137 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:16,500 say hi to everybody. Yeah, yeah. And then within 15 minutes. Hey, 138 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:19,830 do you get to ESPN on that TV over there. I got to see how the 139 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:23,790 Golden State Warriors are doing. You sit down and just start 140 00:08:23,790 --> 00:08:24,810 watching TV 141 00:08:25,470 --> 00:08:27,990 John C. Dvorak: watching. Looking at the score. I wasn't 142 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:35,040 sit down watching TV. Curiously, because my timing was off and 143 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,700 the game had just begun. So the zero to zero and again. Is a you 144 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:44,550 get happy now to zero to zero what a game. Like is a soccer 145 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:47,010 game. Yeah. Okay. So it made sense to you because it was 146 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,180 sound like a soccer score. Yes. Now, the next day Sunday. So 147 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:54,000 they gave me this thing about getting there? I said, Well, 148 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:58,530 yeah. And I'm thinking maybe I should show up. I could go to 149 00:08:58,530 --> 00:09:04,560 the thing to be starts at 6am to be a 615. Beginning. No, this 150 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,610 thing is starting at six. The ceremony starts at six. Yeah, 151 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,690 made a big stink about it. And what time that we start. Well, 152 00:09:12,690 --> 00:09:16,740 that's what stunned me six because because I was thinking 153 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:19,980 well, you know if this doesn't start at six exactly, because he 154 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:23,610 made such a big stink. You're walking out I'm done. He know 155 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,880 he's gonna hear about it forever. So 156 00:09:26,939 --> 00:09:28,739 Adam Curry: here's what you forget. Here's what you forgot 157 00:09:28,739 --> 00:09:36,089 my wife runs big shows like The Ronald McDonald House bandanna 158 00:09:36,089 --> 00:09:40,499 ball this thing was scripted. She had people from the House 159 00:09:40,499 --> 00:09:42,809 working with her who know what you had there was a whole run of 160 00:09:42,809 --> 00:09:44,039 show spreadsheet. 161 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:48,690 John C. Dvorak: Well, it started as six with the two sub coming 162 00:09:48,690 --> 00:09:52,260 in to some song and the jumping around lovely day by Bill 163 00:09:52,260 --> 00:09:55,560 Withers. Yeah. And then they going up did the ceremony as a 164 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,500 bunch of poems that were read everyone years 165 00:09:58,530 --> 00:10:01,050 Adam Curry: one, one beautiful reading By Tina's daughter 166 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:01,530 Ellen, 167 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,860 John C. Dvorak: Ellen read read this poem and then they do the 168 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:10,470 vows of escape get this kind of diminutive guy doing this, sir, 169 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:14,340 well stop. Who is cleaning up his nails? 170 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,110 Adam Curry: Stop sir Jean sir Jean, the Baron de Marriot, 171 00:10:19,110 --> 00:10:25,110 Sheriff of Texas was supposed to do the officiating, and he had 172 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:28,470 his script and we'd met about it. And he was going to wear his 173 00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:30,900 long dress and the with the beard, it was going to be 174 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:35,190 perfect. And then Wednesday night, he got word that his 175 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:38,760 parents had been in a car accident up in Washington State. 176 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,270 Yeah. And it was pretty bad. And his dad would die was an ICU and 177 00:10:42,270 --> 00:10:44,400 I said, Dude, don't even think about it. Get on the plane now, 178 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,940 which he did. And I haven't gotten an update. As far as I 179 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:51,420 know, his dad is mom's Okay. His dad is okay. But he had memory 180 00:10:51,420 --> 00:10:55,290 issues and was still in the ICU last I heard from him. So lots 181 00:10:55,290 --> 00:10:58,290 of karma go out to Jean and his family. So we were presented 182 00:10:58,290 --> 00:11:02,010 with an issue. Now getting someone to officiate a wedding 183 00:11:02,010 --> 00:11:05,550 is as simple in fact, Elise, that team, his other daughter, 184 00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:10,680 oh, I can say my stepdaughter. She, she got ordained online 185 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,410 said Mom, don't worry about us even I could do it. And then I'm 186 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:17,490 like, How about divorce? And she's like, Oh, God, no, no, not 187 00:11:17,490 --> 00:11:18,360 divorce luck. 188 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,580 John C. Dvorak: For us, I was thinking it might not be a bad 189 00:11:23,580 --> 00:11:26,400 thing for the show. If we did these weddings for five or 190 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,720 $10,000. A point 191 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,050 Adam Curry: out that I think is a good idea. Often we can do 192 00:11:31,050 --> 00:11:34,980 that we can go marry people and do appearances. How much five or 193 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:35,370 10? 194 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:38,340 John C. Dvorak: Obviously, in five or 10 for a wedding, for 195 00:11:38,340 --> 00:11:42,270 any just just anybody. So we want to who's got five or 196 00:11:42,270 --> 00:11:45,660 $10,000? Well, because it's like excess money for them. 197 00:11:45,689 --> 00:11:48,359 Adam Curry: Let me tell you how it worked for us. So I'm like, I 198 00:11:48,359 --> 00:11:50,939 gotta find somebody thinking yeah, who could do it and then I 199 00:11:50,939 --> 00:11:53,969 didn't want them we want our guests just to be guests. And so 200 00:11:53,969 --> 00:11:59,459 I start searching around I Bing it and yes, sure, sure shit. You 201 00:11:59,459 --> 00:12:03,659 can get was it sweet and short? ceremonies.com you can choose 202 00:12:03,659 --> 00:12:08,459 your officiant as I showed these pictures, it's like it's like a 203 00:12:08,459 --> 00:12:12,059 Tinder for people who can do weddings. And all the girls go 204 00:12:12,059 --> 00:12:18,539 Yeah, that guy. And that was Jason Jason farmer. Girls 250 205 00:12:18,539 --> 00:12:20,489 bucks. Good deals cheap. 206 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:23,880 Unknown: That's a good deal. Yeah, 207 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:27,210 Adam Curry: I was very happy. And he he was I read his blurbs 208 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:30,360 like former DJ as the guy's perfect you can read a script 209 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,810 just read it just give us Yeah, perfect. I liked I thought he 210 00:12:33,810 --> 00:12:36,600 did a good I understand that he looked a little unkempt I know. 211 00:12:38,430 --> 00:12:39,690 But that was you know it's like some 212 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:43,830 John C. Dvorak: gauges rolled in kind of but he was here for the 213 00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:47,490 wedding is who's the bride it was the groom let me say hi 214 00:12:47,490 --> 00:12:51,870 least a I'm gonna be going yeah, I'm gonna be officiating the 215 00:12:51,870 --> 00:12:56,130 wedding Yeah, that kind of 216 00:12:56,130 --> 00:12:58,200 Adam Curry: thing. That guy. Yeah, exactly that guy. 217 00:12:59,670 --> 00:13:01,710 John C. Dvorak: I mean all that was missing as far as I was 218 00:13:01,710 --> 00:13:06,270 concerned was having a nearby bottle of open bourbon that he 219 00:13:06,270 --> 00:13:08,910 could you know go over to once in a while. Anyway, then we 220 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:10,560 walked out for this. 221 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:14,100 Adam Curry: We walked out to ACD shook me all night long and then 222 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:16,740 we basically had a party the rest of the night I'm sorry you 223 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:17,580 didn't like your meal 224 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,840 John C. Dvorak: there it was yours I'm Nick said didn't like 225 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,990 to me. I was that hungry. But there was one thing that was 226 00:13:24,990 --> 00:13:29,520 just a little much the salad came out it had no salad 227 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,060 dressing. Well, that's long. Vinegar. Oil. 228 00:13:33,090 --> 00:13:35,190 Adam Curry: Well, that's wrong. I had salad dressings and they 229 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:36,240 they messed you up. 230 00:13:36,810 --> 00:13:39,840 John C. Dvorak: We had nothing he says to me sir dressing on 231 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,530 this thing. We're gonna make it make it he said to dress it with 232 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:44,040 water. 233 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:47,820 Adam Curry: I believe me. We're not serving dry salad. That's 234 00:13:47,820 --> 00:13:50,640 all you did. Well, okay. Thanks for telling me because we're 235 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,410 going to make make an issue out of that. 236 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:55,110 John C. Dvorak: You should yeah, I didn't know that. The girl 237 00:13:55,110 --> 00:13:58,170 gets all huffy, and she brings us a little bitty bowl of salad 238 00:13:58,170 --> 00:14:01,260 dressing on this for the site was just a little bit like a 239 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:05,340 thumbnail. So we had to try to split that amongst the three. I 240 00:14:05,340 --> 00:14:06,690 Adam Curry: apologize. I'm so sorry. 241 00:14:07,770 --> 00:14:13,020 John C. Dvorak: Jill didn't care. No. At least you didn't. I 242 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:15,090 didn't know if the whole table didn't get salad dressing. 243 00:14:15,540 --> 00:14:18,300 Adam Curry: I know I had salad dressing. But I know that some 244 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:21,480 people their food arrived and wasn't really warm. There's some 245 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,860 other minor issues. 246 00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:25,950 John C. Dvorak: Well, Mimi, and I used to work in that business 247 00:14:25,950 --> 00:14:31,830 kind of and she talked about the errors in service. They were it 248 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:36,480 was and we all concluded later in the evening. That 249 00:14:37,650 --> 00:14:38,850 Adam Curry: reviewing the day, 250 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,720 John C. Dvorak: reviewing the typical post mortem of the day, 251 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,190 we went over with the Horowitz's and concluded that this place 252 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:51,600 really didn't wasn't equipped to serve these sorts of events. And 253 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,690 I felt that they sold somebody a bill of goods that they couldn't 254 00:14:54,690 --> 00:14:58,350 do it. Because the giveaway according to me was they kept 255 00:14:58,350 --> 00:15:00,990 going way back into the kitchen and And each person bringing 256 00:15:00,990 --> 00:15:04,110 back two plates. Yeah. Right back the kitchen bring it back. 257 00:15:04,110 --> 00:15:07,500 Adam Curry: i So this kitchen is way too far removed. Yeah, I saw 258 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:07,890 that too. 259 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,070 John C. Dvorak: Where is the big cart you bring out you know this 260 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:15,180 setup cart you get with 1000 dishes on a roll the big card 261 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:17,670 out into the middle of the thing and then the service people go 262 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:20,460 nuts. And they get everything served. No, no, they didn't do 263 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:22,950 that they were the end why? And they could only carry two 264 00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:25,200 dishes. They weren't like these professionals. They could carry 265 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,800 six dishes. You know the way some of them are. Even a tray 266 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:32,100 with four or five dishes didn't do that either. It was just 267 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,000 carrying dishes one by one. And it took forever to serve and 268 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,860 that's the only bitch I had. 269 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:40,380 Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's good feedback at the salad 270 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:42,900 really pisses me off though. That really angers me. 271 00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:45,600 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's lame. It was a bit 272 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,890 baffling. Now, 273 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:50,940 Adam Curry: I was disappointed, but it's okay. You and Mimi, 274 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:51,780 don't dance. 275 00:15:53,010 --> 00:15:55,080 John C. Dvorak: Well, I dance but maybe doesn't dance. I 276 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,570 didn't see you dancing dancer. She's not dancing. 277 00:15:58,260 --> 00:15:59,430 Adam Curry: I didn't see you dancing. 278 00:15:59,910 --> 00:16:02,820 John C. Dvorak: I just said I'll say it again. I'm not gonna 279 00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:04,380 dance if she's not dancing. 280 00:16:04,410 --> 00:16:06,810 Adam Curry: Why not? Because it's rude. 281 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:08,760 John C. Dvorak: I think Oh, okay. It's like leaving 282 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,100 somebody. Oh, yeah, you stay there. I'll go out and have some 283 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:15,090 fun. That's bull crap. I'm not doing that. So we, man, they 284 00:16:15,090 --> 00:16:20,100 never had that music guy. I love the DJ app as you are. 285 00:16:20,190 --> 00:16:22,290 Adam Curry: I love it. Yeah, he did have it a little loud. I 286 00:16:22,290 --> 00:16:25,590 agree. And yeah, of course, he's deaf. But I thought that DJ was 287 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:26,850 great. It's very 288 00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:29,490 John C. Dvorak: had its very first under his thing that we're 289 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:34,590 given so much bass, bass wash. It was blowing the curtains. He 290 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:34,770 was 291 00:16:34,770 --> 00:16:37,950 Adam Curry: just trying to cater to the audience, mainly me who's 292 00:16:37,950 --> 00:16:41,940 deaf? Keowee Excellent. Here's, here's what I noticed. Here's 293 00:16:41,940 --> 00:16:45,390 the complicated part. I have no reference anymore with the 294 00:16:45,390 --> 00:16:49,530 hearing aids. So when I was glad that my sister said to you, and 295 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:52,230 then you told me and then of course, I said, Hey, man, my 296 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:55,110 sister complains a lot. Would you went back and told her, 297 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,130 John C. Dvorak: of course. 298 00:16:58,260 --> 00:17:00,930 Adam Curry: My sister complains about stuff. But she was right. 299 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 You were right. But I have no reference. Because even when it 300 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,940 was turned down, I kept saying to people is this loud? To me? 301 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:10,110 It's because the compression in my hearing aids will bring the 302 00:17:10,110 --> 00:17:13,380 music up. And it does all kinds of weird things. And it was very 303 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:17,190 difficult for me to reference if it's too loud. I think the best 304 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:20,700 John C. Dvorak: line of the night was you saying? I said the 305 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:23,760 music. It says it got to be 140 decibels in there. I said which 306 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,620 is illegal, I think in most communities. And it was Bongo 307 00:17:28,650 --> 00:17:31,440 with me, the guy were and it was just loud and would bother me 308 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,970 the fidelity was mediocre. So, so you said Oh, okay. Well, I 309 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:42,750 just I just turned my hearing aids off. It sounds great. Yeah, 310 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:42,990 it's 311 00:17:42,990 --> 00:17:45,690 Adam Curry: okay. Anyway, it was great. Time was great. You have 312 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:49,620 all the family there. We had a fantastic time. I'm really happy 313 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:56,310 you came when Mimi came. I'm happy everybody came. So it was 314 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:58,620 and now I'm married. Go figure. 315 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,480 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, about that about that. 316 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,780 Adam Curry: Now as the keeper is part of the enterprise, we still 317 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:08,070 have we have not had our highest 318 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:10,800 John C. Dvorak: our button in your watch. No, no, no, I think 319 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,110 your modulation was off in that last show. 320 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,830 Adam Curry: No, we haven't had our honeymoon yet. And that's 321 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:22,590 because we're going to we're going to combine it with a trip 322 00:18:22,590 --> 00:18:27,450 to northern Ireland. A friend of hers. And her daughter is 323 00:18:27,450 --> 00:18:29,670 getting married that they were actually there, as was the 324 00:18:29,670 --> 00:18:32,130 daughter very good friends of hers. So we had already planned 325 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:37,410 on on doing the Northern Ireland trip. But and then from there, 326 00:18:37,410 --> 00:18:40,620 we're gonna go to just four or five days going to go to 327 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,750 Portugal just to sit on the beach for a couple of days. But 328 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,620 we will be in London for two days. And the keepers like, hey, 329 00:18:49,620 --> 00:18:52,530 you know, now that we're a part of this enterprise, we should do 330 00:18:52,530 --> 00:19:01,830 a meetup. So I think we'll do that. On Let me see. We'll do it 331 00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:06,810 on Wednesday. Oh, John just popped out. Get him back in a 332 00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:14,190 second. Don't hang up on me. Hello. Can you hear me? I can 333 00:19:14,190 --> 00:19:16,320 hear you. You hung up on me. 334 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,380 John C. Dvorak: I didn't, didn't hang up. But anybody. 335 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,710 Adam Curry: As I was saying, because she's now part of it. He 336 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,640 was saying Tina's part of the enterprise. Now. I know. I heard 337 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,190 what you said. I said because we're going to London and she's 338 00:19:32,190 --> 00:19:35,370 part of the enterprise. Now. We're going to do a meet up on 339 00:19:35,370 --> 00:19:40,170 Friday. I think it's the 13th Oh could be Friday. No. 340 00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:47,520 John C. Dvorak: Of what? of June. Hold on. Let me check. Are 341 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,690 we going to do shows 342 00:19:50,430 --> 00:19:53,280 Adam Curry: that I only skip once for a wedding. I'm not 343 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,050 going to skip for a honeymoon. You crazy. Romantic Friday the 344 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:04,020 Friday no I'm sorry, Wednesday the 12th. Yes, Wednesday the 345 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:10,170 12th of June, we'll do a meet up in London to be determined. I 346 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:13,320 just want to give everybody a heads up. It'll be in the 347 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,490 evening. And then if anyone wants to we could do one in 348 00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:22,200 Portugal. I don't know. Do we? Definitely. Definitely have 349 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,200 people in Portugal. I don't think we have any buddy. We 350 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,840 can't do it in Ireland. We in Northern Ireland, we just won't 351 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,550 have enough time and just in and out. So I look forward to that. 352 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,070 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I don't Portugal's probably not going to 353 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:45,120 happen. I think you'll get a showing at London. Yes. And and 354 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:46,440 that, I think that would be fine. 355 00:20:46,469 --> 00:20:51,179 Adam Curry: Yes, we will be serving dry salads. That's the 356 00:20:51,179 --> 00:20:57,209 new no agenda staple. All right. And thank you all very much for 357 00:20:57,209 --> 00:21:00,389 all your tweets and well wishes and all the great things you've 358 00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:06,119 said. And the Dutch press has been the typical, the typical 359 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:13,379 way. You know, always a little cranky. Always. To me. Oh, well. 360 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:17,459 Well, that Tina looks like the perfect mix between x number one 361 00:21:17,459 --> 00:21:26,519 and X number two huge bags. Anyway, hey, there was something 362 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:29,639 else that was big, big news that took place and that was the a 363 00:21:29,639 --> 00:21:32,909 lot. And in fact, Mark halls or marks or Mark Hall, who also 364 00:21:32,909 --> 00:21:37,469 attended our nuptials was very honest. And he had he actually 365 00:21:37,469 --> 00:21:42,179 although he lives in, in the Austin area. He was staying at 366 00:21:42,179 --> 00:21:47,519 the hotel. We had the reception. He said, Adam, I'm going 367 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:51,179 upstairs. I'm going to watch the final game of Game of Thrones 368 00:21:51,869 --> 00:21:55,259 episode, I will be back. He was the only person that was honest 369 00:21:55,259 --> 00:21:59,669 about it. I saw people trip is leaving, you know that. People 370 00:21:59,669 --> 00:22:03,569 think, Oh, I gotta get out soon. I don't know. After the after 371 00:22:03,569 --> 00:22:05,819 everything was done. There's clean up and then people like, 372 00:22:05,819 --> 00:22:08,879 don't tell me don't tell me what happened. Don't Don't spoil it 373 00:22:08,879 --> 00:22:09,359 for me. 374 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,560 John C. Dvorak: And I give me crap up by just checking a 375 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,070 score. 376 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,740 Adam Curry: And I know, I know. Well, so I have two clips that 377 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:21,480 relate to this. The first is just something interesting 378 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,290 between AOC and Elizabeth Warren for some reason they've teamed 379 00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:29,070 up on I'm not sure what issues, but they had their little review 380 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:32,700 of the Game of Thrones. And as you can imagine, none of it was 381 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:33,690 good. Did you see? 382 00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:37,770 Unknown: I did I'm disappointed about 383 00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:39,120 it. I was just really 384 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:46,050 I feel like we were getting so close to having this ending with 385 00:22:46,050 --> 00:22:49,020 just women running the world. And then the 386 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:51,360 last point, like, Oh, they're 387 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:56,130 too emotional. Yeah, exactly. Can't do that. And, like I was 388 00:22:56,130 --> 00:22:57,090 even willing 389 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:01,110 at the end to make a quick Allegiant shift when Danny went 390 00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:06,540 nuts. Right. Right. So I was over to sonza. Yeah. They were 391 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:10,410 not sure it's totally thing. Totally. And yet sonza who 392 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,380 already is Queen of the North. Thank you very much. Right. 393 00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:17,220 Right. She walks away saying and I'll still be Queen of the 394 00:23:17,220 --> 00:23:20,850 Night. I know. As Come on. For the big ones. 395 00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:24,990 I was disappointed. We're gonna get some feminist analysis up in 396 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:25,740 HBO. 397 00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:30,840 Adam Curry: Do they do no right? So there it is. It's 398 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,390 John C. Dvorak: like okay, Clip of the Day right off the bat. So 399 00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:39,300 we get that over with. Well, hold on a sec. Thank you. I 400 00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:44,250 mean, give me a break. What is do expose yourself as a some 401 00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:48,750 sort of a fanboy junkie and go on and on about women taking 402 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:51,390 over the world and all this other stuff. How is this a 403 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:53,100 politically good idea? 404 00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:57,270 Adam Curry: Well, I don't think it is. But maybe a lot of people 405 00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:57,690 agree. I 406 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,890 John C. Dvorak: think it is. Well, 407 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,330 Adam Curry: this brings brings me to my second clip in this. I 408 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,640 have not followed Game of Thrones. I tried watching the 409 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,910 first episode and a half didn't really like it. I did sit and 410 00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:13,470 watch as at least watch the final one. Yeah, Monday and 411 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,740 John C. Dvorak: let me let me tell you my side so we can even 412 00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:20,280 this up. I have never seen any complete episode of Game of 413 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Thrones. I can't watch it. I think it's unwatchable. I like 414 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,450 to see I'd have seen the scenes where the Dragon comes in and 415 00:24:27,450 --> 00:24:30,840 burns to be able to, you know, just burn it to the toast. Yeah, 416 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:33,510 I think that's kind of cool. And I like what's her name? The 417 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:37,050 actress who plays the evil blonde. Yeah, with the dragon. 418 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,130 Yeah. I think she's a fun to watch act. But I've never seen a 419 00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:43,830 whole episode. I never saw any thing from this season, 420 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:48,120 including a clip. So I can't I don't care about this story. I 421 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:52,950 think it's it's a corn ball. Just corn ball period. 422 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:55,590 Adam Curry: Well, yes, you're right. And what the what is 423 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:59,970 interesting to me is why do I not like it? Why does my partner 424 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,450 Prime Jhansi Dvorak not like it, why does my I love saying it? 425 00:25:03,450 --> 00:25:06,660 Why does my wife not like it? Why do we Why does it not appeal 426 00:25:06,660 --> 00:25:10,830 to us? What is it is instead of why doesn't appeal? What is it 427 00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:15,450 that it appeals to people so much that they are just, you 428 00:25:15,450 --> 00:25:19,080 know, it's now at the point where their entire petitions I 429 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,580 think, on moveon.org to rewrite and reshoot the ending because 430 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:26,820 they did it wrong or something. And yeah, no one petitions for 431 00:25:26,820 --> 00:25:30,600 anything of importance. Like I don't know, what the Chinese are 432 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:36,750 doing or infrastructure. Yeah. Anyway. Another person who was a 433 00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:42,240 big fan is my co inventor of podcasting, Dave Winer. And he 434 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,020 did a short little podcast, which I think explained 435 00:25:46,350 --> 00:25:52,740 entirely, what kind of people like this and why. And it's a 436 00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:56,820 minute 30, then it's just to listen. Yes, the ground that 437 00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:01,260 Unknown: Game of Thrones has broken other than just 438 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:07,770 incredible attention to detail in the production and a sense of 439 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,840 grandiosity, that is, like, nothing ever done before. As far 440 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,130 as I'm concerned, by the way, 441 00:26:14,130 --> 00:26:17,730 Adam Curry: you can tell who was in charge of the technology and 442 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:20,760 who was in charge of the sound when podcasting was created. 443 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:23,520 Unknown: The thing about Game of Thrones is that it just fucks 444 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,320 with you. And they've been doing that ever since season one in 445 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320 our you go along and all through season one, you think, you know, 446 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,710 the main character is Ned Stark, you know, this is the show about 447 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:39,870 Ned Stark. And of course, the end of season one, they kill the 448 00:26:39,870 --> 00:26:44,100 nets. And it's just been one thing after another 449 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,260 Adam Curry: just like that, so I left this scene to establish 450 00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:47,700 he's a huge fan, where 451 00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:50,280 Unknown: you know, you can't you just don't feel like the ground 452 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,520 you're walking on is solid at all. And you could just never, 453 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,740 and then they they sort of throw these curveballs at you, because 454 00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:02,730 they have such terrible writing that they put out a few mediocre 455 00:27:02,730 --> 00:27:05,310 shows. And you think, Well, these guys just there's nothing, 456 00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:08,550 there's no point. I'm just gonna go through the motions, and I'm 457 00:27:08,550 --> 00:27:13,110 not expecting anything to happen. And it just lower your 458 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:17,820 expectations all the way down to the floor. And then it's all 459 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:23,340 like, we just want to do this. So that's what we're gonna do. 460 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,360 And people get very angry about this because it's like, I don't 461 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,360 know, it's like, every time Trump does something crazy, 462 00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:34,260 people go wow, you know, Trump's doing something crazy. Look, 463 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:43,050 everybody. You go. Yeah, that's right. Why are you surprised? 464 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:47,580 Then, I guess there's a rush that you get. And it's the same 465 00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:48,480 with Game of Thrones. 466 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,110 Adam Curry: It's a rush. There you go. It's Trump derangement 467 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:55,710 syndrome. 468 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:59,910 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, maybe it explains 469 00:27:59,910 --> 00:28:03,930 Adam Curry: two things in one go. People somehow certain 470 00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:10,140 people respond a lot of people to mediocre crap with things 471 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:13,560 that turn you upside down, twist your stomach, because you get a 472 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,360 rush from running around saying This is fucked up. That's 473 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,570 exactly what he just said. And I think his analysis is correct. 474 00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:21,840 Use 475 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,990 John C. Dvorak: the expletive properly. 476 00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:29,550 Adam Curry: Sorry. Sorry about that. The first way 477 00:28:29,550 --> 00:28:32,670 John C. Dvorak: is the first time. Okay, that's the first 478 00:28:32,670 --> 00:28:37,260 time. The rest was good, too. First time for everything. Now, 479 00:28:38,130 --> 00:28:41,700 that could be in May. I had to look at people who liked the 480 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,410 show. Are they all a bunch of Democrats? 481 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:47,010 Adam Curry: Well, Weiner is not necessarily a Democrat. He hates 482 00:28:47,010 --> 00:28:49,890 Trump, but I don't think he's a Democrat. Now he's a huge 483 00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:53,250 Democrat. He's voted for he's voted Republican in the past and 484 00:28:53,250 --> 00:28:54,270 I know he has, 485 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:57,630 John C. Dvorak: I don't care. He said he got all involved with 486 00:28:57,630 --> 00:29:01,500 because of Obama, because of Obama. He's now all in on Ubuntu 487 00:29:01,530 --> 00:29:05,100 on being politically never was before forever. He went he did a 488 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,820 whole podcast about his change from being a political to 489 00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:11,490 political, and it was all because of Obama and he thinks 490 00:29:11,490 --> 00:29:14,250 Obama is the best and and he speaks great things for the 491 00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:17,040 country because of Obama, Obama, Obama. This was of course eight 492 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,620 or nine years ago. And you know, it's not that doesn't sound like 493 00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:23,490 a Republican to me. 494 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:26,850 Adam Curry: I'm not saying he's Republican. I'm saying he's not 495 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:30,120 as far as I know. I don't I don't see him as a Democrat. I 496 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,970 see you as someone who hates Trump. You logically 497 00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:35,760 John C. Dvorak: Democrat. Okay. He's just telling you because I 498 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,500 heard him say it. Okay, fine. 499 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,930 Adam Curry: He's a Democrat. Well, but I don't think that's 500 00:29:39,930 --> 00:29:40,560 what he is. 501 00:29:40,590 --> 00:29:42,240 John C. Dvorak: The reason I say that I would think it's 502 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,570 important is because is it just Democrat Hill bots? Who liked 503 00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:46,680 this show? No, I 504 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,460 Adam Curry: don't think so. 505 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:51,270 John C. Dvorak: But so far, we've got three of them. We got 506 00:29:51,270 --> 00:29:51,660 Yeah, 507 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:53,580 Adam Curry: come on League. You're gonna tell me Leo Laporte 508 00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:54,510 is a Democrat. 509 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:57,720 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he's a big game of thrones guy too. 510 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,870 Adam Curry: Of course he is. And All right. Let's move on to 511 00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:08,880 something more important. Like this China situation. Fantastic. 512 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:14,760 The mainstream media, all they can talk about is, well, Google 513 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,940 might not be able to sell DeAndre day, you know, Kid 514 00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:21,900 license Android operating system to Huawei. Did they miss the 515 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:26,370 executive order? Did they just miss this and not see that this 516 00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:32,490 is a huge deal. This could screw China into the ground. I mean, 517 00:30:32,490 --> 00:30:38,430 really, really screw china. Besides Huawei, ZTE phones, the 518 00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:43,350 networking equipment they have. They have laptops and computers 519 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:46,050 that will no longer be allowed to run Windows. Now they have a 520 00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:50,760 90 day window that was created before Huawei is named goes on 521 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,990 the list. But it could put anybody on the list. It's it's 522 00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:58,620 it's really a very, very powerful move that is being 523 00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:01,860 well, of course, all the mainstream news, all they do is 524 00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:10,080 Trump Trump bar. You're missing the real news at this to me, 525 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,610 John C. Dvorak: I don't know if you guys talked about it, but it 526 00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:13,200 is some details for people. 527 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:16,890 Adam Curry: The executive order is very detailed. Let me see if 528 00:31:17,370 --> 00:31:21,900 I can give you the title of that executive order. It's very 529 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:25,980 detailed, but it's specifically appoints the Secretary of 530 00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:30,660 Defense and of Homeland Security to make decisions about which 531 00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:35,130 companies, American companies can share technology with and a 532 00:31:35,130 --> 00:31:38,100 licensing of an operating system obviously, would also be a 533 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:44,070 share, but it's just cutting off all all ties between the US 534 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:48,510 technology companies and Chinese technology or any any Chinese 535 00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:48,720 come. 536 00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:52,710 John C. Dvorak: Because this is because the Chinese have been 537 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:53,910 ripping us 538 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:56,550 Adam Curry: off. Of course, of course. Another thing that you 539 00:31:56,550 --> 00:31:56,970 didn't hear 540 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,750 John C. Dvorak: this dream, yes. And weren't that hard harping on 541 00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:02,940 this. There's this woman I want to get her. 542 00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:04,710 Adam Curry: Let me just tell you what, let me just tell you why. 543 00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:08,970 The reason why is China owns large portions of the United 544 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:12,390 States government, they own the politicians. Their lobby is 545 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:17,460 incredibly strong, and they own parts of Hollywood. So that's 546 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:19,680 your reason why no one harps about it. 547 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:26,190 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, no, probably. Good Reason. 548 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,400 Adam Curry: Joe Biden's son has a billion dollar hedge fund with 549 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,390 Chinese money. 550 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:35,160 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, what's he gonna say? Exactly what he says 551 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,260 that he's no big deal. China is great. 552 00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:40,499 Adam Curry: No, what was oh, let me see it was I have the clip. 553 00:32:40,499 --> 00:32:46,559 It was Biden. China thought I had to clip. I mean, he said it 554 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:47,849 was no big deal. 555 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,640 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it's no big deal. Please. I have the 556 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,970 Rosalyn Leighton clip. I did the whole interview with her but I 557 00:32:56,970 --> 00:33:00,480 only have this 25 seconds on a Huawei once you play that just 558 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,190 as a little background or Okay, hold 559 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:05,430 Adam Curry: on a sec. What am I looking for here? I was looking 560 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:09,150 for something a while away. And that would make sense. Wha wha 561 00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:13,140 wha? Oh, would you put a space in? Okay, I got it. 562 00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:15,870 Unknown: Huawei and the other Chinese firms have been allowed 563 00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:19,890 to get away with theft of property. When you go do 564 00:33:19,890 --> 00:33:22,500 business in China with a joint venture. You have to turn over 565 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,590 your information to them. They have a new espionage law, which 566 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:28,710 basically says all Chinese subjects have to go and do 567 00:33:30,030 --> 00:33:32,670 espionage on their behalf. I mean, even now the case from the 568 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:36,870 DOJ just released had Huawei employees would be get a bonus 569 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:39,090 if they go to T Mobile and steal secrets. 570 00:33:40,410 --> 00:33:41,880 Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. Yeah, we 571 00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:44,730 John C. Dvorak: that sort of thing. Yeah. They in fact, they 572 00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:47,550 Adam Curry: stole the the T mobile testing robot, didn't 573 00:33:47,550 --> 00:33:50,700 they? I don't know, executive order on securing the 574 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,330 information and communications technology and services supply 575 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,290 chain. That is the executive order came out on the 16th of 576 00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:00,900 May. Have you seen anyone dissect it in the mainstream? No 577 00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:08,190 one really talks about it. No. Play a left. Yeah. It's in the 578 00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:10,680 show notes you can review. It's a lot of legalese. But it's very 579 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,970 clear that the executive order says hey, it's dangerous. We 580 00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:18,600 can't have it. And we're no more not going to have it in less 581 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,290 China shapes up and they've been going after Huawei. Is the CFO 582 00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:28,020 still in custody? What's going on with her? Yes, 583 00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:31,800 John C. Dvorak: as a matter of fact. house arrest, I believe. 584 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,750 Right. But she has three at least three houses in Vancouver. 585 00:34:37,350 --> 00:34:39,720 And one of them's a mansion. So I'm sure house arrest is not 586 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:40,410 that painful. 587 00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:44,310 Adam Curry: Just got word searchings Dad is doing better. 588 00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:52,650 Now good. So I saw Yeah, so I think I think it's very big deal 589 00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:56,190 already. We're seeing the so called ABC strategy being 590 00:34:56,190 --> 00:34:58,500 implemented by corporate America. I only learned about 591 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:03,690 this myself recently. A ABC means anything but China. And 592 00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:07,050 they're moving manufacturing or have plans to move manufacturing 593 00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:09,000 to other places in Asia. 594 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,750 John C. Dvorak: Vietnam is a favorite to Vietnam is 595 00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:15,060 Adam Curry: big certainly for the furniture. The furniture 596 00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:15,480 trade. 597 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:18,720 John C. Dvorak: Well the furniture also, crocs shoes are 598 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:19,890 now made in Vietnam. 599 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,050 Adam Curry: Oh my goodness, you should be getting a bonus. 600 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,130 John C. Dvorak: I should. 601 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:26,610 Adam Curry: And and by the way, you have collector's items. You 602 00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:29,310 have original crocs made in China, the good old days. 603 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:32,250 John C. Dvorak: Oh, my You're right. I get to go to that 604 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,940 trading consortium where you trade valuable shoes, 605 00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:38,880 Adam Curry: but this could also affect consumers and law 606 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,350 enforcement. Here's a story about Chinese manufactured 607 00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:44,430 drones. 608 00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:50,190 Unknown: The ongoing US China trade war, adding a new disputed 609 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:53,850 item, the Department of Homeland Security Warning unmanned drones 610 00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:57,210 made by Chinese companies could be stealing your data. This 611 00:35:57,210 --> 00:35:59,640 comes after the Trump administration put the Chinese 612 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,630 tech giant Huawei on notice over national security concerns. 613 00:36:03,630 --> 00:36:05,040 Joining us now is Morgan right. 614 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:07,530 Adam Curry: You notice that's how the executive order is 615 00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:14,010 discussed. Yeah, you put Huawei on notice. The whole Chinese 616 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,960 economy is on notice with this 617 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,030 Unknown: a cybersecurity expert. So it's estimated that 85% of 618 00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:24,840 the drones in the market right now are coming from one company 619 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,310 in China DJI, 620 00:36:26,819 --> 00:36:28,499 how big of a threat Do you think that is? 621 00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:31,920 Melissa, as we're talking right now, I'm in Jacksonville, 622 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,230 Florida at the International Association of Chiefs of Police 623 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:36,570 law enforcement Technology Conference where drones the 624 00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:39,240 discussion of drones happened yesterday, happening today, the 625 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,010 keynote was and they're happening tomorrow, this is a 626 00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:44,700 huge issue. In fact, every agency I've talked to almost all 627 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,910 of them are using drones that come out of China. And so the I 628 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:50,520 think it's a huge issue, the army quit quit buying certain 629 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,150 brands, including Hikvision, and DJI two years ago, it's just 630 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:57,120 taking time now for the rest of the country and public safety 631 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,560 and public sector to catch up. 632 00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:02,340 Adam Curry: And they go on to discuss that your data as to 633 00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:05,820 where you're flying. And the video data is all essentially 634 00:37:05,820 --> 00:37:10,590 being also pushed back to some cloud in China. Although you can 635 00:37:10,590 --> 00:37:11,910 opt out of it. They say, 636 00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:15,270 John C. Dvorak: Well opt out opt in, I'd like to see some data on 637 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:20,010 this. Oh, me too. I mean, I want to hear some from some techie 638 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:22,650 that's that says, Okay, well, I've got the drone. I'm gonna 639 00:37:22,830 --> 00:37:25,260 watch it. We're gonna do this. We'll do that. There. It is the 640 00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:26,700 sending out packets. Oh, 641 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,860 Adam Curry: I guarantee you someone has done. I'll get that 642 00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:32,010 for you. I haven't seen it. No, I haven't looked for it. But I 643 00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:33,030 know what's going to be there. 644 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,920 John C. Dvorak: I'm wondering, I'd like to see even the NSA or 645 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,590 any government agency that has evidence that these things are 646 00:37:40,830 --> 00:37:46,830 phoning home I don't buy devices to be used as spy that's why I 647 00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:50,640 don't have these other things. I don't have the the talking tube 648 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,760 in the house. Things I don't go for that. I don't even have a 649 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,910 smartphone. My phone is like interrupting the computer by is 650 00:37:56,910 --> 00:38:00,120 pinging something all the time. cell tower, maybe I don't know. 651 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:04,170 It's just uh, you know, don't like these open systems. And so 652 00:38:04,170 --> 00:38:06,540 we bring all this stuff in from China and they shoot then they 653 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:09,780 just sell to China. Oh, AR spy devices for the Chinese. Is that 654 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:14,190 what you're saying? Yes, that's exactly right. Well, how come 655 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:16,740 people aren't complaining about him or instead of bitching about 656 00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:17,940 bar molar 657 00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:21,600 Adam Curry: because people like drones. They like to play with 658 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,470 them. People like companies make drones people like their nest. 659 00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:28,230 People like they're talking tubes. People think this is all 660 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:34,230 good. And you and I know better. We got lucky when they threw 661 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:35,700 that Kaczynski guy in Joe 662 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,620 John C. Dvorak: kiss Kozinski. So anyway, so this, Rosalind 663 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:43,500 late and she goes on and on with all kinds of store horror 664 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:48,450 stories about Huawei. And I'm going to try to get her to get 665 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:49,740 to do an interview with her 666 00:38:49,770 --> 00:38:53,490 Adam Curry: and I want to mention that I personally and a 667 00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:57,240 lot of people with me felt your two interview show Mooch and 668 00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:02,460 stall was extremely enjoyable to listen to. Well, thank you. I 669 00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:06,750 really liked it. I like both of them for different reasons. I 670 00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:10,680 thought the mooch was my god. Tom Starkweather did a great job 671 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,490 on on the mooch with the with his with the sound? 672 00:39:15,299 --> 00:39:18,089 John C. Dvorak: Yes, he did. He had him miked up beautifully and 673 00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:21,449 it came across and of course my you know I'm using quality gear 674 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,549 in the actually we use the we used his side of the recording. 675 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:31,920 Adam Curry: Ah, okay. That would make sense. Yes. Very good. And 676 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:35,700 John C. Dvorak: next, yeah, it was a that was a good interview 677 00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:37,830 and I felt it was evergreen enough I could. 678 00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:40,320 Adam Curry: Well now I have to do some interviews. 679 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,220 John C. Dvorak: By the way, one thing you didn't know I edited 680 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:47,910 Well, the first thing I had to edit out the part about we're 681 00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:52,800 going to do this kind of run to November and I got debts nicely 682 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,850 taken out but stole I probably spend an hour on the hour 683 00:39:56,850 --> 00:40:00,720 because because he's he has these long pauses and So I had 684 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,140 to chop every one of them out and go without the pauses. 685 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:07,950 Right. Right. And there's other EQ problems and some other 686 00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:11,700 things I had to do. It came worked out well. So I was happy 687 00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:12,480 enough with it. 688 00:40:12,509 --> 00:40:14,459 Adam Curry: Yeah. And then now I got to do some interviews for 689 00:40:14,459 --> 00:40:20,099 the next time it's about time I did some interviews. Well, maybe 690 00:40:20,099 --> 00:40:25,349 it'll be the new leader of the Euro European Union of the of 691 00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:28,169 the council Starfleet Command from steamer mounts if he makes 692 00:40:28,169 --> 00:40:29,369 it today is voting 693 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,130 John C. Dvorak: in his your old buddy, isn't he? 694 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,680 Adam Curry: He's my he's my old. Yeah, he's my old buddy. 695 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,480 John C. Dvorak: You need him for an interview and is gonna be 696 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:36,870 who? 697 00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:40,260 Adam Curry: I've already kind of gotten that. I've already. I've 698 00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:44,400 already sent out some feelers and sent him a DM on Twitter 699 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:52,560 like crickets. Exactly. I'm getting crickets. Now. It is an 700 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,000 interesting system they employ in the EU, in particular for 701 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,760 this this position. Now John Claude Juncker, the drunker, 702 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:04,830 he's leaving, and the bringing in someone new. And this is the 703 00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:08,790 process known as the Spitz and Connie Dalton. Of course, it's a 704 00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:14,130 perfect German term for the EU as as it is the the German rice 705 00:41:15,090 --> 00:41:18,990 Spitz and Connie Dalton. And I think it would be worth 706 00:41:18,990 --> 00:41:22,500 listening to some propaganda from your own news as you like 707 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:26,910 it, because if you thought voting was complicated with the 708 00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:29,850 Electoral College, how it's really weird, my honest like 709 00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:33,120 makes no sense. A vote is a vote for each person to vote and 710 00:41:33,150 --> 00:41:36,300 popular vote and Hillary should have won. You should be pretty 711 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,310 happy you're not living in the European Union. 712 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,550 Unknown: Beyond the European Parliamentary elections lies the 713 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:46,290 battle for the EU's top job. But how is the next President of the 714 00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:50,670 European Commission chosen? And is the process democratic? 715 00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:54,990 Whoever gets the post oversees a body with responsibility for EU 716 00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:56,010 laws policy, 717 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,000 Adam Curry: I also lost this is one of those animated videos. I 718 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,050 find the animation is insulting enough. But then click 719 00:42:04,050 --> 00:42:07,590 blueprinting this music they put behind it is like hey, you're a 720 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:11,520 dumb child. So let me explain this really complicated process. 721 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:12,510 A child 722 00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:21,480 John C. Dvorak: before he go on. I find it also insulting. And I 723 00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:26,580 and there's the other one is the it was funny once, maybe twice. 724 00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:31,980 It was okay. But the guy drawing Yes. Cartoon Yeah, that's where 725 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:35,220 it all started with the music. Draw the cartoon he's drawing a 726 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:38,910 cartoon of a house and then a guy and man going oh my god and 727 00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:42,210 as a rock kids eating the house and he draws the rock. I mean, 728 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:46,470 it is annoying at this point. I don't want to see these anymore. 729 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:50,250 Adam Curry: And I also will blame who's Apple's? They did 730 00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:55,230 all the famous commercials Apple's agency shy of days shy. 731 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,280 They started with the blue prompt the strings in the Apple 732 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,750 commercials remember the first one I'm a PC I'm a Mac payment. 733 00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:07,470 So that's carried over now to the European union elections and 734 00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:09,930 the President of the European Commission 735 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,230 Unknown: oversees a body with responsibility for EU laws, 736 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:17,280 policies and the budget. In the past that selection procedure 737 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,790 was seen as rather murky described as horse trading 738 00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:23,700 between governments behind closed doors I guess it's all 739 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:28,140 going to change. This impression persisted despite reforms giving 740 00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:32,700 the elected European Parliament more say more say five years ago 741 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:33,630 John Claude Juncker 742 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:39,030 Adam Curry: has more say sound like a vote to you are is just 743 00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:41,580 more say hey, what can I do? You got got some more say 744 00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:45,330 Unknown: despite reforms, giving the elected European Parliament 745 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:49,560 more say five years ago John Claude Juncker was voted in 746 00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:53,730 under a new system designed to be more democratic. How does it 747 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:54,210 work? 748 00:43:54,570 --> 00:43:57,360 Adam Curry: Now? How does more democratic even work this 749 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,360 Unknown: is where it gets complicated. Before the 750 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,870 parliamentary elections, each European political group puts 751 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:07,530 forward its splits and candidat. That's German for lead 752 00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:11,370 candidate. After the vote, the nominee from the group winning 753 00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:15,240 most seats, is the first to be considered by national leaders 754 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:19,170 in the European Council, which represents member states. Do 755 00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:22,020 they have to accept the parliaments choice? In theory? 756 00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:26,040 No. But in practice, this candidate has a clear advantage. 757 00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:30,120 Oh, the EU treaty says taking into account the parliamentary 758 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,380 elections and after appropriate consultations. That Council 759 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:37,830 elects a candidate who's then put to MEPS in the parliament 760 00:44:37,830 --> 00:44:41,460 for a vote. If there's no majority leaders in the council 761 00:44:41,460 --> 00:44:45,090 have a month to propose an alternative. But the Spitz and 762 00:44:45,090 --> 00:44:48,300 candidate process is under threat. Amid a power struggle 763 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:52,410 between the European Council and the parliament. national leaders 764 00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:55,800 say they don't have to go along with it. Some wanted ditched 765 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,970 altogether. The two main parties in Parliament back the system 766 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,330 Then nominees have been taking part in debates with other 767 00:45:03,330 --> 00:45:07,110 presidential hopefuls. But if the new parliament is 768 00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,260 fragmented, and there's a revolt against the lead candidate 769 00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:14,820 system, the new commission boss could be an outsider. It's all 770 00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:17,310 to play for. Thanks. 771 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,320 John C. Dvorak: Thanks for nothing. 772 00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:23,610 Adam Curry: You understand how it works? No, exactly. No wonder 773 00:45:23,610 --> 00:45:27,450 people stay home and vote for that's fine 774 00:45:27,450 --> 00:45:29,100 John C. Dvorak: to do talking about people staying home now I 775 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,670 find it peculiar. You know, this is new Brexit party in the US. 776 00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:37,710 Yeah, the Faraj is in there take taking names and kicking ass in 777 00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:42,630 the European elections. Are they? I mean, the first sample 778 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:46,920 How does Faraj end up in the European Parliament? He 779 00:45:47,070 --> 00:45:51,480 constantly he gets get getting voted in. But in the local 780 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,010 elections in England, they won't vote him in for anything. Do 781 00:45:56,010 --> 00:46:01,470 they have like they do they have a special qualifying election as 782 00:46:01,470 --> 00:46:03,750 a different election because they, you know, the Brits take 783 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:05,100 part in the EU election, 784 00:46:05,130 --> 00:46:08,460 Adam Curry: I believe. I believe the way it works is you any 785 00:46:08,460 --> 00:46:13,980 party can stand for election in the European Union. You don't 786 00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:18,180 have to necessarily be in the local government. In fact, most 787 00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:23,640 people, if not all, of the European parliamentarians are 788 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,850 not in in local government. They are part of parties and they can 789 00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:32,190 be affiliated with the governments but it is it is 790 00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:34,140 something you vote for separately. You and I could 791 00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:38,940 start a party if we were of a natives of a certain country in 792 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:41,970 Europe and then we could be voted into which is great 793 00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:45,720 because you get two offices one in Brussels one in Strasbourg, 794 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,140 you get stipend could be higher your families, you can do all 795 00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:50,160 kinds of cool stuff. 796 00:46:50,730 --> 00:46:52,260 John C. Dvorak: I don't know if you ever saw this special with 797 00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:59,280 Faraj. I don't know who did it. But he they have him on on film, 798 00:46:59,310 --> 00:47:02,220 or they're taping him and he shows the place where he works 799 00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:04,680 here. And then he shows the iceberg and he shows the 800 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,400 buildings and 801 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,650 Adam Curry: he shows everyone's showing up to get their stipend 802 00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:09,870 at nine in the morning. So they leave their money 803 00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:12,750 John C. Dvorak: and he goes, blows past the guard who doesn't 804 00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:15,240 want anyone going in there and he says I don't listen to him 805 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:20,040 and they go in. I mean, the whole thing is quite like a 806 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,030 hedge shaker. 807 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,470 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. Hopefully my 808 00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:27,960 guy gets in and then I'll then I'll start and I'll just start 809 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,440 working and we should be able to get him. I mean, I'm hosting the 810 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,380 Eurovision Song Contest for Christ's sakes. Yeah. 811 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:37,080 John C. Dvorak: I'm a continued famous again, 812 00:47:37,110 --> 00:47:38,310 Adam Curry: I picked again 813 00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:43,230 John C. Dvorak: more paparazzi remember? This 814 00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:49,500 Adam Curry: is a socialist deal. So you're gonna get scale? Yes, 815 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:53,130 you have to be scaled through. Oh, yeah. You don't get any 816 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400 course it is. It's it's all public public Broadcast 817 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,000 Corporation 818 00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:59,760 John C. Dvorak: talking about the Eurovision thing. Yes. scale 819 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,020 from the host if Yeah. You wouldn't get like 50 grand or 820 00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:04,710 plus? 821 00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:08,070 Adam Curry: I don't think so. I'll let you know when they 822 00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:12,210 call. I'll tell you what they said what the opening offer was. 823 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:13,950 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we've heard about that guy. Curry. 824 00:48:13,950 --> 00:48:17,370 He's been where is he? What's he doing now? What was what? 825 00:48:18,089 --> 00:48:19,079 Adam Curry: What caster? 826 00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:21,660 John C. Dvorak: He's a podcast. Yeah, invented podcasts. You 827 00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:24,240 never heard that? Well, I knew he and I kind of knew he. I 828 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,460 don't know that. I knew it. But I think I knew it and they 829 00:48:26,580 --> 00:48:32,490 invented podcasts. But that's what he does. Thanks. Thanks, 830 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:36,270 Jonathan. Like that. Just done. Yeah. Thanks to prom. I have 831 00:48:36,270 --> 00:48:38,280 booking people to do for these interviews. 832 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:41,880 Adam Curry: Yes, I know. I know. It is a problem we need good. 833 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,430 Booker's is what we need. We can get good Booker's. We can do all 834 00:48:44,430 --> 00:48:46,710 the interviews you want. We could do a whole separate 835 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:49,500 series. We just need Booker's we need people to find people for 836 00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,180 us. That's all. 837 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,150 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, find them and rambling guys trying, buddy, 838 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:55,620 that I just 839 00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:58,230 Adam Curry: wanted to interrupt the while maybe we're done with 840 00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:00,420 the European union elections. We'll know more on Sunday, we 841 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:04,500 can talk about it. Just about the Electoral College in the US. 842 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:09,780 You know, this is surprisingly misunderstood as of the most 843 00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,670 recent election, you know, I was 844 00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:14,190 John C. Dvorak: a teacher in school. I don't even know if 845 00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:16,350 they do anymore. They don't. 846 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:21,840 Adam Curry: And now, just if I asked you in 30 seconds to tell 847 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,360 me the reason behind the Electoral College and you've 848 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,910 said it before, they would be 849 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:30,780 John C. Dvorak: to keep what a couple of large states 850 00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:32,580 dominating national politics 851 00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:36,930 Adam Curry: or have the majority screw over the minority. 852 00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:39,210 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Which is the problem with the democracy 853 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,270 straight up, per se or the tyranny of the majority. So 854 00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:48,510 there's no way you can't be tyrannical if you run it, if 855 00:49:48,510 --> 00:49:51,330 it's a true democracy where the majority votes and I think 856 00:49:51,330 --> 00:49:55,920 Brexit kind of the whole Yes, stinks of that. Well, here's 857 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,500 another it's actually an exemplifies the problem. 858 00:49:58,530 --> 00:50:00,840 Adam Curry: Here's another example how About the farmers in 859 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,230 California, who can't even collect their own water because 860 00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:07,200 the majority determined that water has to be shipped off to 861 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,470 the cities. Yes, that's the same. That's the same thing. 862 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:14,760 That's democracy. That's how real straight up democracy can 863 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,370 work. And it's great if you're on the winning side of the 864 00:50:17,370 --> 00:50:21,030 water. Not so great if you're not. But now let's listen to one 865 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:24,810 of my favorite podcasts. I'm sorry, it's the Todd cast. 866 00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:28,770 That's right. Everybody chucked out on the podcast. And this is 867 00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:32,340 just 30 seconds with Kimberly Atkins. I think, 868 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,520 Unknown: honestly, the the easier way, if people don't want 869 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,070 this president in office, the better way to get them out would 870 00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:41,400 be to not elect them in 2020. Then to try to impeach Well, 871 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:44,070 I've always thought is what would James Madison say? If he 872 00:50:44,070 --> 00:50:46,920 were to come back right now and say in sort of what argument 873 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,450 would he make wait for election all this stuff? And he would 874 00:50:48,450 --> 00:50:51,150 say, hey, hey, you idiots, we actually gave you a remedy. It 875 00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:54,630 was called the Electoral College and you chose not to use it. And 876 00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:57,600 that is your the whole point of the Electoral College was to 877 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,570 prevent some sort of disastrous disrupter that could totally 878 00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:05,490 blow up the Constitution as we know it. 879 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,120 Adam Curry: I think it worked perfectly well. 880 00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:12,870 John C. Dvorak: Todd cast did did prevent the situation we're 881 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:16,050 talking about this. This is the blindness of the left 882 00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:19,590 Adam Curry: exactly of the media. The left the media Touro 883 00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:19,980 College 884 00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:22,560 John C. Dvorak: we gave you the like the electoral college did 885 00:51:22,590 --> 00:51:29,520 its job. It kept the the the imperious. I will use the word 886 00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:33,540 like a nice word imperious Hillary Clinton from becoming 887 00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:36,660 president based on the popular vote, which was mostly letting 888 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:39,840 California dominate things the entire popular vote that she 889 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,700 wanted. I don't know how many times I have to say because 890 00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:44,430 people don't seem to remember came from California, 891 00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:48,780 California, pushed her over the top by over 4 million votes. And 892 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:53,400 the match you won the popular vote was just three plus million 893 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,860 she would have actually lost the popular vote if you took 894 00:51:55,860 --> 00:51:58,920 California out of the equation. And that's the reason for the 895 00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,970 Electoral College. 896 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,130 Adam Curry: Thank you for teaching me a new word 897 00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:07,590 imperious, assuming power or authority without justification. 898 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,390 arrogant and domineering, imperious you nailed it 899 00:52:12,450 --> 00:52:17,880 imperious, imperious MP you don't know the song do you? 900 00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:20,070 John C. Dvorak: Know I don't want that the way you're 901 00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:20,430 singing. 902 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,170 Adam Curry: Great Duran Duran tune 903 00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:29,700 John C. Dvorak: let's return back to the 21st century shall 904 00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:34,260 we? So I got a Abinadi came into the news again. Yeah, this 905 00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:36,690 Adam Curry: has been great. I'm glad you got something on this. 906 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:37,380 Yeah, I 907 00:52:37,380 --> 00:52:38,940 John C. Dvorak: got a couple of these. Well, here's Abinadi is 908 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:40,950 new woes as CBS report. 909 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:45,720 Unknown: Star stormy Daniels made Attorney Michael Avenatti a 910 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:48,750 household name when he represented her in a lawsuit 911 00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:51,480 against President Trump. She wants the public to know the 912 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,380 truth, but an indictment unsealed today alleges Avenatti 913 00:52:55,380 --> 00:53:00,960 stole $300,000 Daniels was owed for her book detailing an 914 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,170 alleged affair with the President. According to court 915 00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:08,280 papers Avenatti forged Daniels signature on a letter to her 916 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,150 literary agent and diverted her book advance into a bank account 917 00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:14,910 he controlled he then allegedly Who is 918 00:53:14,910 --> 00:53:15,810 Adam Curry: this reporting? 919 00:53:17,130 --> 00:53:20,760 John C. Dvorak: Oh, that's the woman on CBS is kind of bug eyed 920 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,350 and long. 921 00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:26,700 Adam Curry: Well she has a speech impediment she can't say 922 00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:27,360 the are 923 00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,860 John C. Dvorak: you CBS seems to have more than one or two people 924 00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:34,290 that do I can't remember her name she's she's really pretty 925 00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:39,960 good presenter I never never hated her. I don't know Jeff to 926 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,530 gays though. You 927 00:53:40,529 --> 00:53:42,869 Adam Curry: just find it interesting that people show up 928 00:53:42,869 --> 00:53:45,869 in mainstream with with an obvious to me it's an obvious 929 00:53:45,869 --> 00:53:46,679 speech impediment. 930 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:50,670 John C. Dvorak: Well, she replaces the art with play it 931 00:53:50,670 --> 00:53:53,130 again I started listening for she can't say ours is what used 932 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:55,080 Adam Curry: to she uses W's instead of hours. 933 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,440 John C. Dvorak: Whereas the back it up and play a little play the 934 00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:58,680 whole thing. 935 00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:02,790 Unknown: Star stormy Daniels made Attorney Michael Avenatti a 936 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:05,820 household name when he represented her in a lawsuit 937 00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:08,550 against President Trump. She wants the public to know the 938 00:54:08,550 --> 00:54:12,420 truth. But an indictment unsealed today alleges Avenatti 939 00:54:12,420 --> 00:54:18,330 stole $300,000 Daniels was owed for her book detailing I heard 940 00:54:18,330 --> 00:54:21,810 Adam Curry: three I didn't hear I heard 300,000 alleged affair 941 00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:24,840 Unknown: with the President. According to court papers, 942 00:54:24,930 --> 00:54:28,890 Avenatti forged Daniel signature on a letter to her literary 943 00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:32,490 agent and diverted her book advance into a bank account he 944 00:54:32,490 --> 00:54:37,050 controlled he then allegedly use the money to pay for a Ferrari 945 00:54:37,170 --> 00:54:41,880 airfare, hotels and even payroll for his law firm on Twitter 946 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,290 today. Avenatti said no monies relating to Ms. Daniels were 947 00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:49,500 ever misappropriated or mishandled, I will be fully 948 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:53,460 exonerated. Avenatti has also been charged with stealing from 949 00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:58,260 clients in Los Angeles and with attempting to extort Nike by 950 00:54:58,260 --> 00:55:01,320 going public with claims the shoe company was illegally 951 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,620 paying high school basketball players. Now he sat down with 952 00:55:04,620 --> 00:55:08,580 CBS News's drink at Dunkin in March. And did you try to extort 953 00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:12,090 Nike for millions of dollars? No, in any suggestion is 954 00:55:12,090 --> 00:55:17,250 absolutely absurd. Avenatti had considered challenging President 955 00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:20,010 Trump for the White House, he even started his own political 956 00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:23,520 action committee. But as his legal problems piled up, he 957 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,150 announced he would not run in 2020 He used a third of the 958 00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:29,280 money he raised to pay himself 959 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,280 Adam Curry: this fine boy isn't it the most one of the most 960 00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,420 sacred things that attorney has is a trust account for your 961 00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:42,300 client. And it's like really locked down. You 962 00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:44,220 John C. Dvorak: can't touch it, like everything he did is 963 00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:48,300 illegal. It's unbelievable. Now, there was a big stink made by 964 00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:51,960 one of the right wing groups, and they're talking about how 965 00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:57,330 the news media is specifically we fell in love with Avinash 966 00:55:57,330 --> 00:56:00,390 because he was the he was the antidote to Trump. 967 00:56:00,420 --> 00:56:04,920 Adam Curry: And I will remind us that I said he has to be very 968 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,970 careful because he's using the boomerang. And when you miss use 969 00:56:08,970 --> 00:56:12,570 the media to try and get get something for yourself just for 970 00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:15,930 yourself, it always comes back 10 times harder and hits you in 971 00:56:15,930 --> 00:56:16,860 the head whack. 972 00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:20,010 John C. Dvorak: So they've determined that, in fact, 973 00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:23,550 somebody did a calculation saying that media gave him $147 974 00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:27,750 million worth of free publicity. And of course, they have a 975 00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:31,710 tendency to do this with people. But listen to this compilation 976 00:56:31,710 --> 00:56:35,250 of all the media fawning and talking about this guy. This is 977 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:38,040 a compilation put together by Free Beacon, please Donald 978 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,390 Unknown: Trump's worst 979 00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:40,260 nightmare, Mike. 980 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,920 Joining us once again is Michael Avenatti. And Michael Avenatti. 981 00:56:44,490 --> 00:56:46,980 Michael Avenatti. Michael Avenatti. Thank you very much. 982 00:56:46,980 --> 00:56:49,020 He's out there saving the country who 983 00:56:49,020 --> 00:56:51,780 says he may be the savior of the Republic. If you are something 984 00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:53,040 of a folk hero. Now 985 00:56:53,070 --> 00:56:56,100 I owe Michael Avenatti an apology. I've been saying enough 986 00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,440 for reading Michael, I've seen you everywhere. What do you love 987 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,210 to say? I was wrong, brother. You have a lot to say. I'm 988 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:06,330 just dying to hear what you think people all like you. 989 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,220 I'm the only person right here. 990 00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:10,770 Donald Trump fears more than Robert Miller. We 991 00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:13,410 Adam Curry: think you guys are the tip of the spear that's 992 00:57:13,410 --> 00:57:15,930 going to take down Donald Trump. Michael Avenatti is 993 00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:18,030 Unknown: a beast. Yeah, okay, that's true. And 994 00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:20,130 he's a beast. He's a beast. I hate it. 995 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,160 And he has a bigger calling here that being a lawyer is minimal 996 00:57:26,190 --> 00:57:27,420 compared to what he's doing. 997 00:57:27,450 --> 00:57:32,010 No one has talked tougher directly to Donald Trump on TV 998 00:57:32,130 --> 00:57:34,980 than Michael Avenatti. And Donald Trump is afraid to 999 00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:39,660 mention his name as fascinating. Donald Trump is terrified of 1000 00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:40,320 Michael Lebanon, 1001 00:57:40,589 --> 00:57:42,839 the Trump a run for his money, and everybody else Michael 1002 00:57:42,839 --> 00:57:43,349 Avenatti. An 1003 00:57:43,410 --> 00:57:45,840 existential threat to the Trump presidency. 1004 00:57:45,870 --> 00:57:48,900 Democrats could learn something for you. You are messing with 1005 00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:50,340 Trump a lot more than they are. 1006 00:57:50,370 --> 00:57:55,230 He has no doubt created sheer panic. And Donald Trump's very 1007 00:57:55,230 --> 00:57:56,070 fragile mind 1008 00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:00,420 Michael Avenatti is laying down the law as guest co host and 1009 00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:01,680 really thinking 1010 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,330 about running for president. 1011 00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:06,150 One reason why I'm taking you seriously as a contender is 1012 00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:07,920 because of your presence on cable news. You 1013 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,380 look at the field of Democrats right now and Avenatti is the 1014 00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:11,130 one who stands out 1015 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,550 if they decide they value a fighter most people would be 1016 00:58:14,550 --> 00:58:17,640 foolish to underestimate Michael Avenatti I have always said that 1017 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,070 they need a fighter look. I mean we're gonna continue to use the 1018 00:58:20,070 --> 00:58:22,440 media I think we've used it with great success 1019 00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:31,380 John C. Dvorak: now the joke is that then that was I thought a 1020 00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:34,860 good compilation Yeah. And the joke is that at the end of the 1021 00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:37,140 compilation they do it they throw a punch line and kind of a 1022 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:41,220 something he they also caught Avenatti saying, which turns out 1023 00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:44,280 to be the great irony is also good might work as an ISO but 1024 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,330 play over 92 1025 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,830 Unknown: All of my sexual fantasies involve handcuffs. Oh, 1026 00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:54,000 the view Wait a minute. 1027 00:58:54,270 --> 00:58:57,720 John C. Dvorak: He also thought it was cute. Oh, that's Oh, 1028 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,560 sexy. 1029 00:58:58,589 --> 00:59:01,049 Unknown: Oh, wow. To be handcuffed. 1030 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:06,480 Adam Curry: Yeah. The view Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah, I'll take 1031 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,420 it. I'll take it as an end to show but maybe without the Aw, I 1032 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:13,650 don't know if the oz just will leave us on a faded out. I 1033 00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:16,320 didn't leave us on a sad note if I leave that at the end of the 1034 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:16,770 show. 1035 00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:19,800 Unknown: Ah. Oh, 1036 00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:25,590 Adam Curry: my goodness. Well, with that it is time to thank 1037 00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:28,170 you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who 1038 00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:32,460 put the C in the cuffs on Abinadi his handcuffs John C 1039 00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:32,760 double 1040 00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:37,080 John C. Dvorak: in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry. Also in 1041 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,360 the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the 1042 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,420 air subs in the water and games and nights out there 1043 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,260 Adam Curry: in the morning to our trolls sit near the troll 1044 00:59:46,260 --> 00:59:50,880 room doing their best doing it well. No agenda stream.com 24/7 1045 00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:56,910 You got streams of shows? Great the the DHS plug. No agenda 1046 00:59:56,910 --> 01:00:01,980 show. You got void zero. You've got the grumpy Ben's What am I 1047 01:00:01,980 --> 01:00:03,030 missing here? You've just 1048 01:00:03,060 --> 01:00:04,350 John C. Dvorak: grumpy cat died. 1049 01:00:04,469 --> 01:00:09,959 Adam Curry: I know sad. Another piece of news. Grumpy cat died. 1050 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,090 John C. Dvorak: No. Grumpy cat died. 1051 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,740 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, you know some actual people died. That no 1052 01:00:16,740 --> 01:00:20,520 one gives a shit about who? I don't know either now I don't 1053 01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:25,470 know gives a shit about him. Doris Day passed away. Yeah, we 1054 01:00:25,470 --> 01:00:31,410 lost her. Do I see lots of tributes to her now Grumpy Cat? 1055 01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:36,990 Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. I also want to say in the morning 1056 01:00:36,990 --> 01:00:42,180 to our artists, for the episode 1139. That was our interview 1057 01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:45,870 show. The one John did and Tom Starkweather produced Mooch and 1058 01:00:45,870 --> 01:00:49,530 stole the artwork was Citizen X. It was I think, was an older 1059 01:00:49,530 --> 01:00:52,200 piece that we took. We got it from the evergreens. And it was 1060 01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:56,700 just kind of it was like a postmodern Woodstock type poster 1061 01:00:56,700 --> 01:01:01,380 thing. Yeah, it was a poster. Look at it. It was beautiful. So 1062 01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:03,630 we thank you. And we thank all the artists who are always 1063 01:01:03,870 --> 01:01:07,980 sharing their skills with us at no agenda, art generator.com 1064 01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:10,830 Part of our value for value system. You get out of the 1065 01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:13,770 system, what you put into it. And a lot of these artists, the 1066 01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:16,560 first they get satisfaction, fulfillment, but sometimes 1067 01:01:16,770 --> 01:01:19,800 there's some money it goes to no agenda shop.com It can be put 1068 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,930 on, on mugs and on on T shirts. And we just have a beautiful 1069 01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:28,260 collection. And there's all kinds of ways that this art is 1070 01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:31,380 just is really important to the show and mainly for people who 1071 01:01:31,380 --> 01:01:33,990 say, Oh, wait, what's that new thing I'm seeing? Ah, yes. Looks 1072 01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:36,900 like a new episode of no agenda, one of the few podcasts who do 1073 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:43,020 it adhering to the spec. And also thanks to Archduke Nussbaum 1074 01:01:43,020 --> 01:01:47,430 for the artwork for 1138 which was missing the title of that 1075 01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:53,760 show was pregnant person. And Nussbaum did the dick pic. A 1076 01:01:53,760 --> 01:02:01,620 classic guitar pick with a named Dick on it. Fantastic. It's it's 1077 01:02:01,620 --> 01:02:05,760 not a new idea. But it worked for us. We liked it. Simple to 1078 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:10,830 the point. Got it. No agenda art generator.com Thank you again, 1079 01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:14,730 everybody. Dan, we have two shows worth of support to 1080 01:02:14,730 --> 01:02:17,190 discuss so alert the affiliates 1081 01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:20,580 John C. Dvorak: that we're gonna be running along. We're starting 1082 01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:24,540 now at the top of the list. And nobody almost nobody wants to 1083 01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:29,820 beat him. But No buddy did is Sir anonymous of Dogpatch and 1084 01:02:29,820 --> 01:02:36,510 Loris LeBeau. Via key this was his $50 Oh, man. Thank you to 1085 01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:38,610 the many producers that make the show the most unique 1086 01:02:38,610 --> 01:02:41,040 informative, broad based a collection of news information 1087 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,370 available. No agenda with its many open source information 1088 01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:47,880 websites and as producers are the Wikis of news and of course 1089 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:53,670 smoosh mode smoothes of news smooths your natural cognitive 1090 01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:57,360 dissonance disrupts the M five M and your own different 1091 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,440 perspective, reflect a producer's real life. We both 1092 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,160 agree and disagree often. Individually, we work to resolve 1093 01:03:05,340 --> 01:03:08,370 the noise ourselves. But your analysis has made this my first 1094 01:03:08,370 --> 01:03:14,130 and almost only source of news. As a regular user of snail mail. 1095 01:03:14,370 --> 01:03:17,550 I wanted to point out to John that the USPS is issuing a 1096 01:03:17,550 --> 01:03:20,910 commemorative 150 anniversary of the completion of the 1097 01:03:20,910 --> 01:03:22,470 transcontinental rail race. 1098 01:03:22,530 --> 01:03:24,600 Adam Curry: Oh, gotta get your first day edition. 1099 01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:27,420 John C. Dvorak: Adam congratulations on your new home 1100 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:31,350 and wife. Ramadan Kareem NJ NK 1101 01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:34,770 Adam Curry: yes it is it Ramadan is ongoing now is it not? 1102 01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:35,760 John C. Dvorak: I believe so. We 1103 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,560 Adam Curry: should say Happy Ramadan to everybody. 1104 01:03:38,190 --> 01:03:39,570 John C. Dvorak: Happy Ramadan everybody. 1105 01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:42,540 Adam Curry: Not everybody. That's fantastic. Enjoy, enjoy. 1106 01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:47,370 I love the after, after sunset. That's when it gets fun with my 1107 01:03:47,370 --> 01:03:48,360 Moroccan buddies. 1108 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,130 John C. Dvorak: Benjamin Parker comes up in the list. $1,140 1109 01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:59,100 just short. Almost was the top guy. Well, he wasn't the top guy 1110 01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,800 there. But he's definitely the top guy with a long note. As a 1111 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,900 longtime listener who's never been a producer and a certified 1112 01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:11,400 they're protected of Baron Walkman. I hereby make a pre 1113 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,250 emptive contribution before being called out as a douchebag 1114 01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:17,220 gonna show 1140 on this contribution I would call out 1115 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,560 $5,508.08 The original boobs donation. Ooh, it's 1116 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,640 Adam Curry: the backwards boobs. 1117 01:04:27,390 --> 01:04:29,880 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, it's the original boobs. Yeah, right 1118 01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:33,060 to flip it over backwards. Oops with an S if 1119 01:04:33,060 --> 01:04:35,130 Adam Curry: you do it on a calculator and this is the 1120 01:04:35,130 --> 01:04:36,870 proper way to do it on a calculator. 1121 01:04:37,290 --> 01:04:40,560 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, boobs. In honor of my beautiful wife. 1122 01:04:41,820 --> 01:04:47,640 Resource. Yes, beautiful wife into two human resources. She 1123 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,440 provides sustenance for that 54558 is in honor of the 1124 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,770 matrimonial vows of Adam and the keeper for a long time with 1125 01:04:55,770 --> 01:05:00,000 little shape shifting and and the remainder 1.92 is just 1126 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,690 because I'm not sure what my actual CPM would be since I 1127 01:05:03,690 --> 01:05:08,010 started listening since I started listening, if you did 1128 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:12,930 actually sell out, but hopefully it brings me closer to do a deed 1129 01:05:12,930 --> 01:05:13,440 douching 1130 01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:16,170 Adam Curry: Well, I think he I don't see what he's trying to do 1131 01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:21,900 all this numerology for just you deserve a D Do you spend D Do 1132 01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:24,000 you do that? Thank you so much. 1133 01:05:26,310 --> 01:05:28,860 John C. Dvorak: Finally, here's to getting the protector of Ohio 1134 01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:31,860 position in Ohio, instead of traveling four hours to Michigan 1135 01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:36,660 all the time, so he's able to defend his territory. For 1136 01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:39,570 jingles, it would be great if you could find any AOC clip 1137 01:05:39,570 --> 01:05:43,290 followed by a Megatron disappointed in this generation. 1138 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,100 I think you have an ISO or at least you used to fall by some 1139 01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:51,600 type of sales karma. Yes. We're an interesting read. You might 1140 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,670 try to understand this but universally recommend the book, 1141 01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,760 The righteous mind by Jonathan Haidt. I'd read this is a very 1142 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,450 good book. He has essentially map five moral foundations and 1143 01:06:00,450 --> 01:06:02,790 how people fall on the moral foundations determine whether 1144 01:06:02,790 --> 01:06:07,650 they are in universe A or B. The five categories are if you care, 1145 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,060 fairness, or pro proportionality, loyalty or in 1146 01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:14,760 group Okay, that's not makes no sense. Let's read the book. 1147 01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:17,580 Basically, the finding of the conversation of a balance of all 1148 01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:20,460 five moral foundations. Onward. Yeah, wait, 1149 01:06:20,490 --> 01:06:24,690 Unknown: he needs his jingles. This is ridiculous selfie. You 1150 01:06:24,690 --> 01:06:27,810 will not receive a selfie so long as you stand before. 1151 01:06:30,090 --> 01:06:31,650 You've got karma. 1152 01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:36,150 Adam Curry: There you go. Sales karma special 1153 01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:42,960 John C. Dvorak: sales. Benjamin Doolin. Up there with 1139 We 1154 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,360 got a lot of big donors today. Yes. 1139. And he I think send a 1155 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,070 note in which I have defined now I 1156 01:06:50,070 --> 01:06:54,810 Adam Curry: believe he becomes a knight today. Yes, it's all 1157 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,310 included is this instant night. 1158 01:06:57,780 --> 01:07:00,420 John C. Dvorak: I don't know that he says that as possible. 1159 01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:04,350 Possible? Well, it's definitely instant night in some regard. 1160 01:07:04,530 --> 01:07:08,580 I've been I made a donation amount of 1139. This donation 1161 01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:13,530 should be dubbed the keeper in honor of Adam's nuptials and is 1162 01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:18,210 also divisible by 17 which is prime and my own version of 33. 1163 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:24,540 Bingo. I've listened for a long time as a douchebag. So a deed 1164 01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:25,560 douching is an order 1165 01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:29,130 Unknown: you spend deed deuced 1166 01:07:29,820 --> 01:07:32,100 John C. Dvorak: as this is my first donation this makes me an 1167 01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:36,870 instant Knight. I would like to be known as Sir Benjamin Doolin. 1168 01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:41,550 The poor Knight of the wood show is great. I laugh every time 1169 01:07:41,550 --> 01:07:45,870 John is a crotchety old fucker. And Adam gets miffed about it. 1170 01:07:48,210 --> 01:07:50,490 When does that happen? But never I don't know what he's talking 1171 01:07:50,490 --> 01:07:55,830 about that because and yeah the way I see it. What show are you 1172 01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:59,820 listening to made my life better at times? I've had little to 1173 01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:04,320 look forward to then there were you to insufferable pricks to 1174 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:10,470 Lee lift my spirits success. Right, right. Yeah, no twice a 1175 01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:13,440 week and every Thursday no jingles. But how about some 1176 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:18,300 karma for health sales Carson books relationship. And for me 1177 01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:21,810 and everyone who needs it? I like the goat scream variety 1178 01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:26,490 with Adams yay. If easily found otherwise, Adam do your thing. 1179 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,010 Thanks gents for the fantastic show. Keep it up until you quit. 1180 01:08:32,250 --> 01:08:35,550 I'll be donating again here soon employing the value for value 1181 01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:39,540 model to enrich me. Cheers. 1182 01:08:39,690 --> 01:08:42,210 Adam Curry: Let me see if I can find what he's looking for. 1183 01:08:44,310 --> 01:08:47,220 Unknown: You've got karma 1184 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:57,330 John C. Dvorak: now we have an anonymous donor $599.19 which is 1185 01:08:57,330 --> 01:08:59,640 the wedding. Big time wedding. 1186 01:08:59,819 --> 01:09:01,949 Adam Curry: That's a huge wedding donation. Thank you. 1187 01:09:02,069 --> 01:09:07,619 That was 519 May 19. For our our wedding date. And JNK Thank you 1188 01:09:07,619 --> 01:09:08,219 anonymous 1189 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,020 John C. Dvorak: and JNK Sure. David, the Baron in Kansas City 1190 01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:20,550 comes in with the same thing. 5919 51919 sorry. My Brooke, 1191 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:26,130 Adam. Or MAYBROOK. Adam, what does that mean? My book. My 1192 01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:30,750 book. My Brooke, Adam. Congrats from the lovely Riyadh. I'm 1193 01:09:30,750 --> 01:09:33,690 sharing some of my first paycheck from my first real job 1194 01:09:33,690 --> 01:09:37,470 since delivering pizza in college. All that army stuff for 1195 01:09:37,470 --> 01:09:40,530 the last 28 years didn't even seem to be like a real job. A 1196 01:09:40,530 --> 01:09:43,650 career. Yes. But most of the time, too much fun to be truly a 1197 01:09:43,650 --> 01:09:47,160 job onward to the next chapter for both of us. Thank you for 1198 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:47,640 your courage 1199 01:09:47,670 --> 01:09:51,210 Adam Curry: can my book is congratulations and Arabic. 1200 01:09:52,410 --> 01:09:53,280 Thank you, trolls. 1201 01:09:55,770 --> 01:09:58,320 John C. Dvorak: He's Sir David Baron of Kansas City in 1202 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,490 absentia. He's in it Riyadh used to pronounce it really 1203 01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:07,320 Adam Curry: no agenda staple radio or radio. 1204 01:10:09,809 --> 01:10:14,639 John C. Dvorak: Kelly from kin i Sounds like Keen Eye Kelly from 1205 01:10:14,639 --> 01:10:20,969 Kenai $500. This is going to be a long episode today. Kelly from 1206 01:10:20,969 --> 01:10:25,199 Kenai, Kenai it's been a year since my last donation Forgive 1207 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:28,019 me father for I have sinned sending a wedding gift to Adam 1208 01:10:28,019 --> 01:10:30,869 and my support to the show great value. I am a recruiter and 1209 01:10:30,869 --> 01:10:33,599 always looking for candidates and specifically dudes named 1210 01:10:33,599 --> 01:10:39,689 Ben. Please play Nancy's jobs jobs jobs and Sharpton is not 1211 01:10:39,959 --> 01:10:45,629 sure the title sounds like of which we know much yeah, 1212 01:10:46,259 --> 01:10:49,049 Adam Curry: that would be I think that's resist we much is 1213 01:10:49,049 --> 01:10:50,579 what's being requested there. 1214 01:10:51,059 --> 01:10:52,049 John C. Dvorak: Keep up the good work but 1215 01:10:52,049 --> 01:11:00,179 Unknown: resist we must. We must and we will much about that. Be 1216 01:11:00,179 --> 01:11:01,439 committed jobs, 1217 01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:08,460 jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs. Karma 1218 01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:18,420 John C. Dvorak: sir Stokes in 369 12 a great interviews please 1219 01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:24,780 refer me as sir Stokes and Plymouth Panella is Paladin been 1220 01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:29,640 suffering from a mild douchebaggery apologies major 1221 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,740 congrats for Adam and Tina hope you're as lucky as I've been 25 1222 01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:39,060 years last month douche bag check for Wyatt and his brother 1223 01:11:39,060 --> 01:11:50,130 Dave's post back check something I explained he apparently is the 1224 01:11:50,130 --> 01:11:54,150 dude do split douchebag check guy I initiated that long ago 1225 01:11:54,150 --> 01:11:58,920 but never explained well but got a jingle never explained well. 1226 01:12:00,630 --> 01:12:04,590 They've listened to and even donated but they may have let it 1227 01:12:04,590 --> 01:12:07,410 go for too long. Yeah a time 1228 01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:12,900 Adam Curry: that's Secret Agent Paul who did that jingle oh well 1229 01:12:12,930 --> 01:12:16,590 but in response probably for from a request that makes sense. 1230 01:12:18,090 --> 01:12:21,120 John C. Dvorak: Ah, right. He came up with the douchebag check 1231 01:12:21,180 --> 01:12:24,510 idea and then secret agent bolt did the jingle which is what he 1232 01:12:24,510 --> 01:12:28,620 says but he got a jingle but he never explained it. Just in 1233 01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:34,020 rigour in Phoenixville, Texas 333 dot o three. I've been a 1234 01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:37,350 douche bag for a while but hoping to be de douche with this 1235 01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:38,040 donation. 1236 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,180 Unknown: You've been de deuced 1237 01:12:44,370 --> 01:12:47,040 John C. Dvorak: makes Ville Pennsylvania please keep up the 1238 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,770 best podcasts in the universe. I can only tolerate the media 1239 01:12:49,770 --> 01:12:52,890 through your expert deconstruction also please play 1240 01:12:52,890 --> 01:13:22,410 wampum with the Constitution thing thank you that is 1241 01:13:24,510 --> 01:13:26,820 Adam Curry: that is our slide whistle remix haven't heard that 1242 01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:30,450 in ages. It's pretty good. It still stands out. 1243 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,010 John C. Dvorak: David Chaney 323 $3 He wrote a note in saying 1244 01:13:35,010 --> 01:13:39,900 I forgot to leave a note. last donation, but if it's not too 1245 01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:42,690 late, I donating brings me in. He's got his total for my 1246 01:13:42,690 --> 01:13:46,440 knighting is going to be sort of chaotic mass. Oh, fantastic. 1247 01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:49,260 They've congratulated teacher to have bourbon and bong hits at 1248 01:13:49,260 --> 01:13:53,700 the table. I sent this email earlier from my okay. No request 1249 01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:54,750 for anything other than that. 1250 01:13:56,190 --> 01:13:58,710 Adam Curry: Yes, I'll see you at the roundtable. Thank you. 1251 01:13:59,219 --> 01:14:05,219 John C. Dvorak: Baron Walkman of Buckeye. 333. Even Al Sharpton 1252 01:14:05,219 --> 01:14:08,429 we much he's got some jingles you can queue up ITM chances 1253 01:14:08,429 --> 01:14:12,869 that enter the troll room. Oh, hello, troll room. Nobody says 1254 01:14:12,869 --> 01:14:16,409 hi to the troll room. Congrats to the pod father and keeper in 1255 01:14:16,409 --> 01:14:19,079 a successful marriage. And another note, I am forced to do 1256 01:14:19,079 --> 01:14:22,889 this. I must call out a fellow dude named Ben. Whose actual 1257 01:14:22,889 --> 01:14:29,339 name is Ben. You sir, are a douche bag. Douche bag for not 1258 01:14:29,339 --> 01:14:32,309 contributing to the best podcast in the universe. I call you out 1259 01:14:32,309 --> 01:14:39,989 Ben from East Canton, bribe, bribe or chip Ale, bribe or chip 1260 01:14:39,989 --> 01:14:45,239 in? I presume you want to bribe Baron walk Walkman or chip in 1261 01:14:45,269 --> 01:14:49,409 and I'll name you a sheriff as a sheriff. Okay. Some promises 1262 01:14:49,409 --> 01:14:49,679 there. 1263 01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:52,890 Adam Curry: All right. Thank you Baron Walkman a bucket resist. 1264 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:59,550 Unknown: We must. We must and we will much about that. 1265 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,120 Hi I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to watch 1266 01:15:07,379 --> 01:15:10,019 you've got karma Those were his jingles 1267 01:15:11,550 --> 01:15:16,410 John C. Dvorak: John spawn Amer $300 And by the way I want to 1268 01:15:16,410 --> 01:15:18,330 mention to people out there because there's a little lengthy 1269 01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:19,890 this for two shows 1270 01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:22,440 Adam Curry: yes so people do understand but there's fun 1271 01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:23,730 content in here as well. 1272 01:15:25,140 --> 01:15:28,170 John C. Dvorak: Adam Dominion leather died calm your friendly 1273 01:15:28,170 --> 01:15:32,250 handmade leather BDSM bondage online Etsy store from me 1274 01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:36,030 Houston wants to wish you and all you wish you all the best in 1275 01:15:36,030 --> 01:15:38,820 the future your you have embarked on with Miss Tina the 1276 01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:43,800 keeper. Now I think about it, the keeper might need some new 1277 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:51,120 gear. Keep you ever hit me up for some appropriate gear. Gear 1278 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,900 seriousness. I've been a listener since somewhere in the 1279 01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:59,340 single digits and have donated once or twice as my alter ego. I 1280 01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:03,390 felt I needed to step up and get a deed douching okay. 1281 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,900 Unknown: You've been deed deuced 1282 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,130 John C. Dvorak: like family me, me. We may not always agree. But 1283 01:16:11,130 --> 01:16:15,120 you have my undying support in what you're doing. John do I 1284 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,420 confess I only have one serious love in my jingle life. And that 1285 01:16:18,420 --> 01:16:20,550 is that the little girl Yay. 1286 01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:24,630 Adam Curry: Oh, well, we got that. I'm just looking. I was 1287 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:27,180 looking at the at the store. 1288 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,450 John C. Dvorak: I bet you were onward. Jonathan Jobin. 1289 01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:34,560 Adam Curry: Nice trawlers 1290 01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:40,320 John C. Dvorak: 235 We all do Associate Executive producers. 1291 01:16:40,350 --> 01:16:42,840 This donation brings me the knighthood and honor my 33rd 1292 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:49,830 birthday today and 523. Here's a donation of 235. It brings me a 1293 01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:52,110 knighthood. I'm from Switzerland. And I've decided 1294 01:16:52,110 --> 01:16:54,960 listening to no agenda in 2015. When I lived, I started 1295 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,850 listening in 2015. While I lived in Vancouver, Vancouver, BC, I 1296 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:04,020 since moved to the US, I am now live in New York. With no agenda 1297 01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:08,430 on my side by my side, I was able to not fall prey to the 1298 01:17:08,430 --> 01:17:13,230 local madness of the media here and keep my sanity and help my 1299 01:17:13,230 --> 01:17:16,770 wife keep hers. I'm fully convinced that listening to no 1300 01:17:16,770 --> 01:17:21,510 agenda makes my life better. And I thank you both for that call 1301 01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:24,900 out to anyone working in visual effects who hasn't donated yet, 1302 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,130 don't be a douchebag. Sometimes it looks like almost everyone in 1303 01:17:29,130 --> 01:17:32,610 this line of work are crazy liberals believing every word 1304 01:17:32,610 --> 01:17:37,680 out of John Oliver or Stephen Colbert is mouths. By the 1305 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,250 Adam Curry: way. You know, there was that report that said that 1306 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,920 CO bear and know that Jon Stewart quitting the Daily Show 1307 01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:52,980 helped Trump get elected. Did you see that? It wasn't no, it 1308 01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:59,160 was an official study. It was it was published on you know, some 1309 01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:04,740 sites, but was retracted because they made a mistake in the math, 1310 01:18:05,010 --> 01:18:10,740 because I follow this retraction watch website for all the peer 1311 01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:13,650 reviewed science that is retracted, which is quite a lot 1312 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,970 I might add. And way too much in the original. Yes, the original. 1313 01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:25,020 Not enough, really. The original claim was that John Stuart 1314 01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:31,260 quitting the daily show had at least helped Trump by 1% in 1315 01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:35,160 getting elected and then someone saw that they had miscalculated 1316 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,610 the mean or something some some they've done something wrong. 1317 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:43,710 And it turns out that Jon Stewart and John Oliver in The 1318 01:18:43,710 --> 01:18:48,270 Daily Show and Stephen Colbert have absolutely had zero 1319 01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:52,860 influence on Trump being elected and I don't know which is worse 1320 01:18:52,860 --> 01:18:55,530 for them. I bet they were at home like man, I'm important and 1321 01:18:55,530 --> 01:18:59,370 now is Oh, it didn't matter one bit. 1322 01:19:00,330 --> 01:19:02,730 John C. Dvorak: That's because they preach to the choir. 1323 01:19:03,330 --> 01:19:06,510 Adam Curry: Yeah. He was just an interesting interesting that 1324 01:19:06,510 --> 01:19:08,520 that study was retracted. 1325 01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:11,070 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, it's still out in the public domain. 1326 01:19:11,070 --> 01:19:11,760 It will be really 1327 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:18,210 Adam Curry: the people believe it Sure. Okay, thank you for 1328 01:19:18,210 --> 01:19:19,470 your courage congratulations. 1329 01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:22,650 John C. Dvorak: But made me mad but I'm sure there's a few of us 1330 01:19:22,650 --> 01:19:24,900 that are listening to the best podcast in universe donate 1331 01:19:24,900 --> 01:19:28,980 today. For title and like to be sir Jobin of the visual effects. 1332 01:19:28,980 --> 01:19:33,480 Can we please add cheese fondue and raclette to the round table? 1333 01:19:33,660 --> 01:19:37,500 Adam Curry: That cheese fondue and raclette. What is request? 1334 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,280 John C. Dvorak: Direct cloud? Is that where they have the cheese 1335 01:19:41,310 --> 01:19:45,510 on? Like it's like, he is heated on the wheel or something and 1336 01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:49,530 you scrape it off the wheel is kind of like hot, you know, just 1337 01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:53,070 you've seen these things. Believe me. You've seen it. Look 1338 01:19:53,070 --> 01:19:57,000 it up. All right. Thank Jesus needed and the Dutch aren't 1339 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,470 really helping us with that. Sorry, Adam. Huh All right, well 1340 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:04,950 compete Swiss cheese Swiss manufacturer cheese is some of 1341 01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:11,010 the it's probably third in the world after that maybe fourth 1342 01:20:11,250 --> 01:20:15,180 after French who I'd say number one, Italian and be number two 1343 01:20:15,180 --> 01:20:17,340 and then the Spanish I would give three 1344 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:19,980 Adam Curry: with the Dutch or was it just whale shit where the 1345 01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:20,520 Dutch 1346 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,880 John C. Dvorak: the Dutch would be down under after the Swiss 1347 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:26,100 watch, they'd be 12345. 1348 01:20:26,130 --> 01:20:27,600 Adam Curry: How about how about Wisconsin? 1349 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:34,770 John C. Dvorak: 20? Actually, no, they're pretty good. But 1350 01:20:35,670 --> 01:20:37,920 Adam Curry: hey, wait, wait, did the Chinese make cheese? 1351 01:20:39,420 --> 01:20:42,900 John C. Dvorak: Well, no. Okay. Well, you said like dairy 1352 01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:45,360 prices, not big dairy eaters. Anyway, thanks for your 1353 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,940 COURAGING aggression. Now he asked that you also want to ask 1354 01:20:47,940 --> 01:20:52,590 her to jingles. Yeah. Yoko Ono is The Great Gig in the Sky and 1355 01:20:52,590 --> 01:20:55,050 listen to that one. Is that what he said? I got this note here. 1356 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,340 Adam Curry: Yeah. And listen to that horn. This 1357 01:20:56,340 --> 01:20:57,510 John C. Dvorak: is a horn. Yes, Farmer. 1358 01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:13,590 Adam Curry: Yeah, I can I can play those Oh, my God. 1359 01:21:18,810 --> 01:21:20,490 Unknown: You've got karma? 1360 01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:27,420 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we should discuss cheese more on the show. 1361 01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:34,680 Yeah, I'm all in. Yeah. Jesus, tasty. Jeffrey Briar $207.64. 1362 01:21:34,980 --> 01:21:40,290 Adam, congratulations to you. And you're the keeper on your 1363 01:21:40,290 --> 01:21:42,780 marriage. And I pray for many years of happiness for you both. 1364 01:21:44,730 --> 01:21:48,900 Thanks to both of you. And John, for being the only place to get 1365 01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:54,000 an honest look at the news is true. That's true. Throw some 1366 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,330 karma towards yourselves. Keep up the great work. Now. 1367 01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:00,180 Adam Curry: I'm a little surprised you didn't mention 1368 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,510 that I threw that into my vows. 1369 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:06,870 John C. Dvorak: Ah, I didn't measure because you needed to 1370 01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:16,230 remind me. So in the middle of the Vows, Adam says it's just 1371 01:22:16,260 --> 01:22:18,900 you know, the back and forth. But I actually I should mention 1372 01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:21,570 this. I recorded the entire thing. 1373 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,110 Adam Curry: No one has that. But you we wouldn't mind seeing it. 1374 01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:30,900 John C. Dvorak: No, now it's like valuable. I recorded. I 1375 01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:33,600 noticed I was looking for some snapshots for the newsletter. 1376 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,140 And I realized that I didn't make it nice. I just took 1377 01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:38,550 nothing but videos. Well, the 1378 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,360 Adam Curry: picture you use for the newsletter was not 1379 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,130 appreciated by my wife. 1380 01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:48,810 John C. Dvorak: What what did I say? 1381 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,120 Adam Curry: No, this was the pic. It was just Yeah, it was. 1382 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,530 It was of Ellen reading, but it wasn't cropped. And so you got 1383 01:22:55,530 --> 01:22:58,260 the officiant picking his nose. You know, it's just a weird 1384 01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:01,530 show. It was not a great shot. But that 1385 01:23:01,530 --> 01:23:04,620 John C. Dvorak: was the I that's what I was just about to say, 1386 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:09,750 I'm looking for snapshots that I can use in the newsletter, and I 1387 01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:14,130 realized all I did was take videos. Already you put in the 1388 01:23:14,130 --> 01:23:19,290 cake. Is one video after another. I said holy crap. So I 1389 01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:23,850 found that one picture. No. And I did crop it because I was 1390 01:23:23,850 --> 01:23:27,660 using a super wide angle lens. So it was cropped. And yes, I 1391 01:23:27,660 --> 01:23:31,380 left the guy picking his nose because it was funny. And I 1392 01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:34,200 thought that she would be irked about my commentary that I wrote 1393 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,180 underneath the pictures the caption. 1394 01:23:36,210 --> 01:23:39,300 Adam Curry: No, yes, that was irksome to Yeah. 1395 01:23:39,660 --> 01:23:42,870 John C. Dvorak: But anyway, she knows she knows the biz. Yes. 1396 01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:43,530 Does Well, 1397 01:23:43,530 --> 01:23:48,270 Adam Curry: now that she's part of the enterprise. Yeah, okay, 1398 01:23:48,270 --> 01:23:49,290 so that's true. 1399 01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:53,580 John C. Dvorak: So he throws in in the middle of the ceremony. 1400 01:23:53,580 --> 01:23:59,970 He is part of his bilinguals in the voice he goes, that's true. 1401 01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:04,740 That's why I want to see it looking into the audience 1402 01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:09,240 Adam Curry: when he turned my head to. I totally threw it 1403 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,140 like, hold up. That's true. Come on. People were laughing too. Do 1404 01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:16,350 you know what the hell it meant? That's how good the timing was 1405 01:24:16,350 --> 01:24:20,490 John C. Dvorak: to everybody. And anyway, so that was funny. 1406 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,910 You're right. So what is Jeff does ever get he's gonna give 1407 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:26,280 him a something here. Does he need a gimmick karma towards 1408 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,170 yourselves? Yeah, he needs a really good karma. 1409 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,320 Unknown: You've got karma 1410 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:38,040 John C. Dvorak: at $200 with Sir Tim of the tunnels, who writes 1411 01:24:38,670 --> 01:24:41,610 200 bucks he says I just want to congratulate Adam and Tina 1412 01:24:41,610 --> 01:24:45,060 again. Kudos to John for calling out producers on the Twitter's 1413 01:24:45,630 --> 01:24:49,020 not sure what I did but he did some may piece from above rest 1414 01:24:49,020 --> 01:24:54,450 upon you and remain with you now and forever and such. I do a 1415 01:24:54,450 --> 01:24:59,880 prayer that gives me a kick. It's funny. The tunnels are the 1416 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,240 end That concludes our list of producers, executive producers 1417 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,850 and Associate Executive producers for show 1140. I want 1418 01:25:05,850 --> 01:25:08,760 to thank each and every one of them for really helping get this 1419 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,790 show. It was great. It's been a tough month that that we didn't 1420 01:25:11,790 --> 01:25:13,050 do a show last Sunday. Yeah, 1421 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,780 Adam Curry: well, we did do a show, which took actually more 1422 01:25:15,780 --> 01:25:19,230 time than probably the show usually takes the actual 1423 01:25:19,230 --> 01:25:20,220 production depart. 1424 01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:23,100 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, it takes because it's posted. This is the 1425 01:25:23,130 --> 01:25:24,720 beauty of the regular show. 1426 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,290 Adam Curry: We're done. And we're done. Onto the next one. 1427 01:25:28,290 --> 01:25:33,930 Yes, exactly. Well, on behalf of the show and the enterprise, the 1428 01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:38,310 value network here in Austin and the keeper, I would say, Thank 1429 01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:42,300 you for supporting the work. We do, you know, pretty much 1430 01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:45,180 continue working throughout anything in our lives one way or 1431 01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:47,370 the other. That's why the honeymoon will be filled with 1432 01:25:47,370 --> 01:25:52,260 shows from the road, European flavor and such. But also just 1433 01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:54,750 understanding how the value system works with all the deep 1434 01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:59,520 platforming going on. I think we chose a very smart path. It's 1435 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,450 not an easy one. But it is our show together. And we are making 1436 01:26:03,450 --> 01:26:08,250 it work into our 11th season now. And thank you for all of 1437 01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:10,950 your courage. And remember, we'll be back here on Sunday to 1438 01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:13,140 do it all over again with more deconstruction, and you could 1439 01:26:13,140 --> 01:26:19,830 support the work at vo.org/and. We've got a lot more coming up. 1440 01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:22,920 Just remember it's all here. It's a formula dropping, is 1441 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:42,210 this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. I'm sorry, 1442 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,360 John C. Dvorak: I should clarify sentences. I use jargon. And I 1443 01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:49,200 really try not to Oh, when I say because people wonder what that 1444 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:54,300 means. When I say it's posted? I mean, it's post produced posted 1445 01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,390 as just a short version of waiting. Okay. Oh, yes, yes, it 1446 01:26:57,390 --> 01:27:00,360 is posted. As means that you post produce, it means you do 1447 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,380 the show. After you've done that you create the material and then 1448 01:27:04,380 --> 01:27:08,040 you put the show together. And you do the editing and you do 1449 01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:10,980 tweak it you do the sound you compress. You do all these 1450 01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:14,940 things after you've done it. And that is way most people for some 1451 01:27:14,940 --> 01:27:18,060 reason, and a lot of podcasting schools teach this? Well, 1452 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,700 Adam Curry: I'll tell you that. I will tell you the reason why. 1453 01:27:21,810 --> 01:27:26,100 The reason why is that people did not have the equipment 1454 01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:30,780 available to them. It's still really not readily available in 1455 01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:34,410 a form that makes sense. There's no hey, here's your box to do 1456 01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:37,590 you great voice and podcasting. Well yes, the road caster rip 1457 01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:43,380 off. And that's a story for another day. So people started 1458 01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:47,280 post processing to make it sound good. And I will tell you that I 1459 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,060 believe it's probably a good 80% Maybe even higher, maybe even 1460 01:27:51,060 --> 01:27:56,010 85 90% of all podcasts are done in post production mode. If 1461 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,310 these people would take the time to learn how to do it in real 1462 01:27:59,310 --> 01:28:03,300 time. And you know, the shoots, send me an email. I'll tell you 1463 01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:04,200 what gear to get. 1464 01:28:04,530 --> 01:28:07,470 John C. Dvorak: I mean, Horowitz does it in real time the show 1465 01:28:07,470 --> 01:28:08,010 stock, 1466 01:28:08,010 --> 01:28:13,020 Adam Curry: bro the show? money manager? The show money manager 1467 01:28:13,020 --> 01:28:18,390 would your show will be better. It's just you. I hear the love 1468 01:28:18,420 --> 01:28:24,480 and the spontaneity chops out of so many podcasts. Hey, Joe Rogan 1469 01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:28,830 does it all live? It's great podcast. Yeah, don't think he's 1470 01:28:28,830 --> 01:28:32,130 sitting around chopping up stuff. Just let it flow. And 1471 01:28:32,130 --> 01:28:34,230 don't worry about your flubs. It makes you human. 1472 01:28:34,650 --> 01:28:36,840 John C. Dvorak: But you got to make it sound good. It has to 1473 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,340 sound clip. 1474 01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:41,340 Adam Curry: Well, that doesn't really bother me. It's that's 1475 01:28:41,580 --> 01:28:44,820 why podcasts are only like two minutes long. So it's not a 1476 01:28:44,820 --> 01:28:46,350 problem. But if you're gonna listen to something for any 1477 01:28:46,350 --> 01:28:48,180 length of time, you might want to consider that. 1478 01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:52,380 John C. Dvorak: But it's post production. And this is the 1479 01:28:52,380 --> 01:28:55,230 thing that would I like about it the most besides the fact that 1480 01:28:55,230 --> 01:29:00,570 you're done is that it gets it gets another word that use of 1481 01:29:00,570 --> 01:29:05,430 the word posted, it gets posted as a finished product for people 1482 01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:09,870 to download within an hour, as opposed to the one of the shows 1483 01:29:09,870 --> 01:29:13,920 that unfiltered show used to be posted. It was post produced and 1484 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,990 it would take some days to get the show out. 1485 01:29:16,469 --> 01:29:19,679 Adam Curry: Oh hell yeah. I used to do television shows it would 1486 01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:22,739 take two days of editing. And then we then we started to do 1487 01:29:22,739 --> 01:29:25,439 them live and it was the best thing ever. You start at 7pm 1488 01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:29,879 you'd done at 10 to eight, go home. Nothing left to do that 1489 01:29:29,879 --> 01:29:33,509 have a meeting the next day when the ratings come up. And it was 1490 01:29:33,509 --> 01:29:38,489 that was lovely. I wanted to talk about the D platforming 1491 01:29:38,489 --> 01:29:41,849 that's happening and where it's leading and I'm actually very 1492 01:29:41,849 --> 01:29:45,179 positive about some things I've been noticing over the past 1493 01:29:45,269 --> 01:29:51,389 week. And the D platforming again from Yes, so there are 1494 01:29:51,389 --> 01:29:55,709 people in the in these companies in Google and Facebook and, and 1495 01:29:55,709 --> 01:29:59,249 all and Twitter and there's lots of people who will tweak the 1496 01:29:59,249 --> 01:30:02,309 algos. push someone off. You know, there's hate, of course, 1497 01:30:02,309 --> 01:30:05,609 it's what happens in companies with lots of employees. You 1498 01:30:05,609 --> 01:30:09,119 know, there's people who, you know, like we've discussed on 1499 01:30:09,119 --> 01:30:11,939 the show whose job it is, they're their contractors, and 1500 01:30:11,939 --> 01:30:14,459 they listen to stuff and say, yeah, maybe I don't know, send 1501 01:30:14,459 --> 01:30:18,479 it off, you know, send it to the algo again. But really, most of 1502 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:24,029 it is just to keep brand safe content on these platforms. And 1503 01:30:24,059 --> 01:30:28,439 by brand safe these days, that means nothing controversial. So 1504 01:30:28,589 --> 01:30:32,189 they don't really even want their ads anywhere near anyone 1505 01:30:32,189 --> 01:30:36,179 who, for example, would talk about Infowars or Alex Jones. 1506 01:30:36,539 --> 01:30:38,969 And it's all for the advertisers. Yeah, there's 1507 01:30:38,969 --> 01:30:42,479 always political bias. But the political bias starts with God, 1508 01:30:42,509 --> 01:30:45,359 the American God, the advertiser, and that's where the 1509 01:30:45,359 --> 01:30:48,119 bias is. So if you really want to change that you need to go 1510 01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:50,519 after all advertisers, but everyone's too chickenshit. They 1511 01:30:50,519 --> 01:30:53,579 won't do that. But other things are happening. Just to add some 1512 01:30:53,579 --> 01:30:58,319 color to this. Laura Loomer, who was deep platformed, very early 1513 01:30:58,319 --> 01:31:04,019 on, was on with Alex Jones is a documentary coming out about the 1514 01:31:04,139 --> 01:31:07,679 people who have been deep platformed may even be out I saw 1515 01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:09,719 the trailer for it. I'm not going to play it for it's a very 1516 01:31:09,719 --> 01:31:14,399 dramatic boom, taken away of free speech. So horrible 1517 01:31:15,659 --> 01:31:19,229 censoring us, and I just don't I don't buy into that. We don't 1518 01:31:19,229 --> 01:31:23,099 need YouTube, Google Twitter. We don't either. We've been 1519 01:31:23,099 --> 01:31:25,559 functioning. We've worked very, very hard at it. I've been doing 1520 01:31:25,559 --> 01:31:31,289 it for a long time, and very consistently on Thursdays. And 1521 01:31:31,289 --> 01:31:39,449 we're alive and we're doing it. This hysteria is concerning, but 1522 01:31:39,779 --> 01:31:42,329 is also driving something positive, which I'll explain 1523 01:31:42,329 --> 01:31:47,849 after we listen to Laura Loomer. And her plight on the Alex Jones 1524 01:31:47,849 --> 01:31:48,209 Show, 1525 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,790 Unknown: I wish that he would do something like I said, I 1526 01:31:50,790 --> 01:31:54,120 confronted Congress and when Jack Dorsey was testifying in 1527 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,670 September and I begged President Trump I begged him to do 1528 01:31:56,670 --> 01:31:58,980 something before it was too late. And that was when I still 1529 01:31:58,980 --> 01:32:03,240 had access to my my my Twitter account, right? But I was 1530 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,480 mocked, right? Look at that asshole Billy long in Congress 1531 01:32:06,510 --> 01:32:09,270 gets mocked me and called me crazy. But what are they doing? 1532 01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:13,350 I want to know what people are actually going to jail. My life 1533 01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:19,770 is ruined. And how ruined my life is. I'm sick of it. I don't 1534 01:32:19,770 --> 01:32:22,800 want to listen to people tell me that. I'm a conspiracy theorist. 1535 01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:28,620 They don't know what it's like to me, me. Alex, okay, he's 1536 01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:30,960 concerned about it. But that's not going to stop the fact that 1537 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,560 I've lost 90% of my income. That's not going to stop the 1538 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,620 fact that I literally can't make a living anymore. Even though I 1539 01:32:37,620 --> 01:32:40,800 have a degree. I was valedictorian in college, I 1540 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,520 graduated top of my class in my journalism program, and I'm sick 1541 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,280 of fighting harder than most conservatives. I'm fighting 1542 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,640 harder than anybody. And I'm being destroyed. And they mocked 1543 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,310 me and they say, I'm some crazy conspiracy. That's 1544 01:32:53,310 --> 01:32:55,170 what happens. Florida leaders. So 1545 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:56,910 I hear you. 1546 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,060 Adam Curry: That's what happens to the leaders. That's right. 1547 01:33:00,090 --> 01:33:03,270 They get them going first m leaders. Hey, first of all, 1548 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,630 there's plenty of things you can do. Consider webcam work, 1549 01:33:06,630 --> 01:33:12,090 there's tons of stuff you can do. What are our stats? That's 1550 01:33:12,090 --> 01:33:15,210 mean, I know it's a mean joke. I know. It's a mean joke. I didn't 1551 01:33:15,210 --> 01:33:18,900 really mean that. But it's it. Look, I'll tell you, if I lost 1552 01:33:18,900 --> 01:33:21,930 90% of my income, I'd be on the webcam so damn fast, your head 1553 01:33:21,930 --> 01:33:27,210 would spin. I do what we saw. Yeah, I do whatever I have to do 1554 01:33:27,210 --> 01:33:29,820 to suit to keep alive and support my family as I have done 1555 01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:33,960 in the past I work for MTV says enough what levels I stoop to. 1556 01:33:34,980 --> 01:33:40,620 But the deep platforming is driving incredible innovation 1557 01:33:40,740 --> 01:33:46,290 and re innovation. And I'll explain it. Most of the 1558 01:33:46,290 --> 01:33:51,720 companies that we use and believe we can't be without. And 1559 01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:54,030 then we're hooked. A lot of people are very hooked 1560 01:33:54,030 --> 01:33:57,030 particularly on Gmail on the right. And remember to say 1561 01:33:57,030 --> 01:34:02,550 something about Gmail in a moment. They are built on open 1562 01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:08,340 source and open source that they take and add to and you know, 1563 01:34:08,340 --> 01:34:11,400 when they add to under, and under the particular licenses, 1564 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,890 they also have to publish the changes they've made. And this 1565 01:34:13,890 --> 01:34:17,820 is how we get things like the Chromium browser, which is open 1566 01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:21,810 source. But there's other you know, even just the web servers, 1567 01:34:21,810 --> 01:34:24,840 the underpinnings the technology, it's really out 1568 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,900 there it's available. And what no one ever thinks about is, you 1569 01:34:27,900 --> 01:34:32,430 know, what, if a bunch of people who weren't necessarily funded 1570 01:34:32,430 --> 01:34:36,930 by Vc, or if they really, you know, they'd like, oh, this big 1571 01:34:36,930 --> 01:34:39,840 money scheme, but what about just people who are just kind of 1572 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:45,300 interested in creating or recreating technology that 1573 01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:48,330 everybody can use that is not controlled and not spying on 1574 01:34:48,330 --> 01:34:54,360 you? And Laura Loomer is actually on gab gab.com. Gab is 1575 01:34:54,360 --> 01:35:00,120 a competitor to Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and And 1576 01:35:00,990 --> 01:35:04,530 it was searched to some degree to Google, but not really. But 1577 01:35:04,530 --> 01:35:09,540 there are social network, and they have very Stanback rules 1578 01:35:09,540 --> 01:35:12,030 you can do really pretty much whatever you want, as long as 1579 01:35:12,030 --> 01:35:17,370 it's within the constitutional definition of spreed. Free 1580 01:35:17,370 --> 01:35:19,860 speech, which means there are some limitations about 1581 01:35:19,860 --> 01:35:25,650 threatening language, etc. And, and, you know, it's a competitor 1582 01:35:25,650 --> 01:35:30,750 to, to these companies and people are on Twitter. Yeah. But 1583 01:35:30,750 --> 01:35:33,060 people are on it. And they're using it. And 1584 01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:35,310 John C. Dvorak: I have an account I've been on and off it 1585 01:35:35,970 --> 01:35:36,330 now. 1586 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:40,770 Adam Curry: But what they did is they took the open source 1587 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:45,270 version of the brave browser, which we have raved about 1588 01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:48,150 before. Brave has its own company. They're the real 1589 01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:50,700 commercial company. They've got huge funding. 1590 01:35:51,420 --> 01:35:54,570 John C. Dvorak: Yesterday, a guy who one of the early Mozilla 1591 01:35:54,870 --> 01:35:59,100 Mozilla was rousted? Yep. Probably Mozilla for sexual 1592 01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:00,240 harassment or so 1593 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:05,850 Adam Curry: no, no, no, he No. He he gave money to an anti 1594 01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,910 John C. Dvorak: sexual harassment. He gave money. Oh, 1595 01:36:08,910 --> 01:36:11,760 my God, He gave money to a Republican. Yes. And 1596 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,060 Adam Curry: it was it was to a group who was petitioning 1597 01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:18,540 against same sex marriage. That's that was a true offense. 1598 01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:18,720 So 1599 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,760 John C. Dvorak: that was a juggler. Yeah, horrible offense. 1600 01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:20,850 So 1601 01:36:20,850 --> 01:36:21,600 Adam Curry: you can't do that 1602 01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:22,710 John C. Dvorak: send them to hell. 1603 01:36:24,030 --> 01:36:27,000 Adam Curry: So they took the brave browser stripped out all 1604 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:31,080 the crap. And brave is also I think, I don't know if it's 1605 01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:36,270 based on things based on Chromium. You know, took out a 1606 01:36:36,270 --> 01:36:40,770 lot of the things that were just heavyweight and added in there 1607 01:36:40,770 --> 01:36:44,550 dissenter, which is I think we've discussed this before, 1608 01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:47,670 it's a little button. And anywhere that any website, any 1609 01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:51,060 page you're on, you click that button, and you have your own, 1610 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:55,920 you can start your own comment thread. So really kind of what 1611 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,940 discuss should have done but instead of discuss it or discuss 1612 01:37:00,510 --> 01:37:04,140 is a commenting system that works on a website, this works 1613 01:37:04,140 --> 01:37:06,990 within your browser, so you can go around and you can have 1614 01:37:06,990 --> 01:37:10,980 conversations. And of course, you can also shadow that to gab, 1615 01:37:11,790 --> 01:37:14,940 so that you have a record there. But it's a very interesting way 1616 01:37:14,940 --> 01:37:21,090 of conversing. But the browser, this browser is finally what I 1617 01:37:21,090 --> 01:37:25,230 would call the people's browser. It is so lightweight, it is so 1618 01:37:25,230 --> 01:37:29,910 fast it kicks Braves asked a million times over it is faster 1619 01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:33,210 than any other browser I've run on. Windows. Certainly on the 1620 01:37:33,210 --> 01:37:37,560 Mac let you talk it about the dissenter browser that gap made, 1621 01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:42,180 they made a browser, they took the Open Source of all confused 1622 01:37:42,210 --> 01:37:46,380 sorry, they took the open source code of all these douchebags and 1623 01:37:46,380 --> 01:37:49,140 I'm saying the brave guys douchebag not really douchebag 1624 01:37:49,170 --> 01:37:52,260 but and said screw it, we're gonna make the people's browser 1625 01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:56,040 and we're going to take out all the spying block all the all the 1626 01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,190 things you don't want to have make it super fast, lightweight, 1627 01:37:59,220 --> 01:38:03,180 and they succeeded. And it is a fantastic product, you should 1628 01:38:03,180 --> 01:38:07,440 not use any other browser this in my opinion. And these guys 1629 01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:14,730 are all get this browser gab.com/download. And, in 1630 01:38:14,730 --> 01:38:18,240 addition, they're also talking about forking, because that's 1631 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,210 where it is you fork, you take the open source project and 1632 01:38:21,210 --> 01:38:24,030 create a new project from it, it's completely legal, like, I'm 1633 01:38:24,030 --> 01:38:26,580 gonna fork it, I'm gonna create my own side project, it's the 1634 01:38:26,580 --> 01:38:29,310 way open source was meant to be. And they're going to do that to 1635 01:38:29,310 --> 01:38:34,800 keybase. And keybase is probably the largest repository of 1636 01:38:36,330 --> 01:38:43,260 identity. So secure, you know, the like my my my pitch my 1637 01:38:43,260 --> 01:38:47,250 encryption key, my public key, that is identity, a true 1638 01:38:47,250 --> 01:38:50,430 identity in the crypto world and the way it was kind of intended, 1639 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,770 originally on the internet, they're going they're talking 1640 01:38:52,770 --> 01:38:57,180 about forking that and turning that into a real consumer facing 1641 01:38:57,210 --> 01:39:00,510 business than not just techies and people who understand how to 1642 01:39:00,510 --> 01:39:04,800 do encrypted email. They'll make it simple. And they haven't 1643 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,910 really shown a business model yet. I'm not quite sure exactly 1644 01:39:08,910 --> 01:39:11,550 where the where they're going to go. I would donate money to them 1645 01:39:11,580 --> 01:39:15,720 hand over fist as much as I could to support this. But I 1646 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:19,380 think we are going to see the more D platforming takes place, 1647 01:39:19,500 --> 01:39:22,260 the more people are moving towards these platforms, and a 1648 01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:27,510 tipping point is coming not for Google. Google has other other 1649 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:30,990 issues that tied into the spy apparatus. So it's and that's 1650 01:39:30,990 --> 01:39:35,790 their whole origin. That's kind of hard to remove them. But if I 1651 01:39:35,790 --> 01:39:40,500 tell you that you go to google.com/purchases Did you try 1652 01:39:40,500 --> 01:39:45,570 this John? Google. I did. Okay. And what did you see? 1653 01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:49,590 John C. Dvorak: I got five purchases that weren't made by 1654 01:39:49,590 --> 01:39:52,560 me. I don't know who did them. I'd never got charged for him. 1655 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:59,220 One purchase by me and the rest nothing. I have the same. I 1656 01:39:59,220 --> 01:40:01,800 actually have on them. bogus purchases from someone that's 1657 01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:02,910 not even you 1658 01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:05,790 Adam Curry: know, I did not get bogus. It's actually my 1659 01:40:05,790 --> 01:40:11,160 account.google.com. Here's what I have on mine 100 gigabytes of 1660 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:16,200 Google every month, I purchased a surface dock, which I didn't 1661 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,740 buy through, I bought it from the Windows Store, the Microsoft 1662 01:40:19,740 --> 01:40:25,590 Store, something from my hearing aids. And really, I only had one 1663 01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:28,620 legitimate. So none of these things I purchased through 1664 01:40:28,620 --> 01:40:30,570 Google. And the way they do it 1665 01:40:30,570 --> 01:40:32,460 John C. Dvorak: great. They went I the one that they showed up 1666 01:40:32,460 --> 01:40:35,610 for me was from Amazon. But it was only one thing and I buy 1667 01:40:35,610 --> 01:40:39,750 like, probably 20 things a month from amazon for the last since 1668 01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:44,850 2000s, whatever, at least 10 years. And there was just one so 1669 01:40:44,850 --> 01:40:47,490 I've not done not freaked out about this because it's like it 1670 01:40:47,490 --> 01:40:48,150 doesn't work. 1671 01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:53,940 Adam Curry: And the reason why is squirrel mail. Google 1672 01:40:53,970 --> 01:40:57,780 collects these purchase this purchase information by going 1673 01:40:57,780 --> 01:41:01,590 through your Gmail and pulling out receipts. 1674 01:41:02,190 --> 01:41:05,430 John C. Dvorak: Ah, well, yeah, it doesn't have access to 1675 01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:06,480 squirrel mail. 1676 01:41:06,510 --> 01:41:09,570 Adam Curry: But that's what so whoever thinks this is a good 1677 01:41:09,570 --> 01:41:14,550 idea, and that they're only doing it with receipts. You need 1678 01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:15,930 to check your 1679 01:41:16,530 --> 01:41:20,370 John C. Dvorak: fare pal. Did Google knows route Google knows 1680 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,300 that Google knows and one of these days Hey, buddy, this kind 1681 01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:26,910 of interesting one if your wife wants to see this email yours, 1682 01:41:27,870 --> 01:41:28,830 one step away. 1683 01:41:29,070 --> 01:41:32,400 Adam Curry: I love that email blackmailing. I love the email. 1684 01:41:32,580 --> 01:41:35,820 Yeah, I hacked your webcam. I saw what you were doing watching 1685 01:41:35,820 --> 01:41:39,000 that porn send me a Bitcoin or I'm gonna release the video. 1686 01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,850 John C. Dvorak: Why would I ever get one of those? 1687 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,270 Adam Curry: I got one the other day Tina got one the other day? 1688 01:41:45,690 --> 01:41:48,120 Yeah, I'm like, Yeah, let's see the video. 1689 01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:49,950 John C. Dvorak: Video. 1690 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,090 Adam Curry: But there's lots of things that are backfiring. And 1691 01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:58,440 well, just to wrap this up. The internet is not these companies 1692 01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:01,680 legislating them? As long as they're legislating these 1693 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,860 companies? I don't care what they do, do whatever you want. I 1694 01:42:04,860 --> 01:42:08,430 know. They're completely unimportant to what we're doing. 1695 01:42:08,670 --> 01:42:13,530 And, you know, depending on how 5g is rolled out, you know, 1696 01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,070 you're gonna be okay not using the services, which brings me to 1697 01:42:17,070 --> 01:42:24,240 5g. Very interesting T Mobile, you know, they are still waiting 1698 01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:28,410 for regulatory approval to purchase sprint. And the reason 1699 01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:31,950 they are they want to purchase sprint is for their towers, 1700 01:42:31,950 --> 01:42:37,650 mainly. But John Leger did a did a video, which I won't bore you 1701 01:42:37,650 --> 01:42:42,360 with. But it was the T Mobile commitment. And the T Mobile 1702 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,730 commitment is to rolling. If, you know, hey, if you approve 1703 01:42:47,730 --> 01:42:52,230 this for us, if you approve this merger, we commit to rolling out 1704 01:42:52,230 --> 01:42:57,210 5g, broadband rural areas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 1705 01:42:57,540 --> 01:43:00,120 And they published the documentation in which I was 1706 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,240 very interested in that just so you know, what they're really 1707 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:07,410 talking about doesn't seem as spectacular as the promises that 1708 01:43:07,410 --> 01:43:11,370 are being made in the media. Now at&t as a little different 1709 01:43:11,370 --> 01:43:16,620 story. But for T Mobile, they promise they will blanket up to 1710 01:43:16,620 --> 01:43:23,580 90% of the country's population with mid band spectrum. And a 1711 01:43:23,580 --> 01:43:29,190 100% of the country's population with low band spectrum 5g, which 1712 01:43:29,190 --> 01:43:33,270 will result in Americans receiving speeds in excess of 1713 01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:37,230 100 megabits per second, within three years of closing, within 1714 01:43:37,230 --> 01:43:40,260 six years of the mergers closed, the applicants commit to deploy 1715 01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:43,470 a 5g network with low band coverage of at least 99% of the 1716 01:43:43,470 --> 01:43:54,060 population, mid band 90% With speeds between 450 megahertz and 1717 01:43:55,980 --> 01:44:00,510 and 1.5 gigahertz. But that will really only be you said, yeah, 1718 01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:04,620 what I said, Well, four and 50 megabits per second, at 1719 01:44:04,620 --> 01:44:07,620 megahertz. That's because I'm reading the document. And that's 1720 01:44:07,620 --> 01:44:11,400 the interesting part. John's document says that, no, I was 1721 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:15,300 reading ahead. I'm multitasking. I'm also rolling a spliff. It's 1722 01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:18,810 a whole bunch of things going on. So what I was interested in 1723 01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:23,520 is what frequencies they're going to use. It's one and, and 1724 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,910 I understand the 5g protocol much better now. I'll get to 1725 01:44:26,910 --> 01:44:31,320 that in a second. But the actual transmitters that T Mobile is 1726 01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,860 talking about I'm less worried about than what AT and T is 1727 01:44:34,860 --> 01:44:38,550 talking about, because they're talking about mid band, which is 1728 01:44:38,580 --> 01:44:43,770 in the five to six gigahertz range, which is your Wi Fi. This 1729 01:44:43,770 --> 01:44:47,370 is where the problem comes into play. There's a whole lot of 1730 01:44:47,370 --> 01:44:51,300 people using this. They call it the unlicensed spectrum that 1731 01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:55,200 these phone companies now want to start using and because of 1732 01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:59,940 the protocol of how they can slice frequencies and basically 1733 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,230 Uh, use the same frequency as, for example, your Wi Fi, but it 1734 01:45:04,230 --> 01:45:06,540 wouldn't interfere with each other. Yeah, right. 1735 01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:09,480 John C. Dvorak: Wi Fi itself has a number of channels. So you 1736 01:45:09,480 --> 01:45:10,140 guys do that. 1737 01:45:10,410 --> 01:45:14,400 Adam Curry: Yeah. But you know, we're talking a lot more, the 5g 1738 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,030 protocol is really splitting this up much more than Wi Fi. 1739 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:21,000 John C. Dvorak: And Wi Fi is at 2.3. So any but everyone's 1740 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,090 Adam Curry: now fighting over this, because the smart meters 1741 01:45:24,570 --> 01:45:29,220 are going to run into trouble. Smart Meters are on these 1742 01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:32,040 frequencies, and which is not as bad, which we're not against. We 1743 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:36,030 don't like these smart meters at all. There's no weather 1744 01:45:36,030 --> 01:45:39,300 forecasting sensors, there's all kinds of issues that come down 1745 01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:43,140 to this to these frequencies. But what I found interesting is 1746 01:45:43,140 --> 01:45:46,440 that in the in the open document, the T Mobile 1747 01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:52,200 published, they, they've redacted, the frequency that 1748 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,110 they're going to be on, they say mid band, so I can only assume 1749 01:45:55,110 --> 01:45:58,200 it's going to be between five and six gigahertz, but 1750 01:45:58,230 --> 01:45:59,700 everywhere. Sorry, 1751 01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:02,040 John C. Dvorak: if you're thinking of the real bandwidth 1752 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:06,210 of the potential which includes terahertz waves, it's gotta be 1753 01:46:06,210 --> 01:46:10,230 there. Yeah, it's the mid band could be 500. You don't it would 1754 01:46:10,230 --> 01:46:13,350 mid band is that when you keep reading the mid band, I just 1755 01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:15,360 keep hearing Bab that doesn't mean anything. Well, 1756 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,060 Adam Curry: I'll tell you. Let me let me read you the sentence 1757 01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:26,610 with the redacted 5g sites sites nationwide, an average of that's 1758 01:46:26,610 --> 01:46:30,960 the band width that's the band an average of redacted megahertz 1759 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,690 of low band and mid band 5g spectrum. So they're not even 1760 01:46:33,690 --> 01:46:36,990 telling us how wide the spectrum is that they're going to use. 1761 01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:45,750 But everywhere you go down further. Here it is. This is 1762 01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:48,930 what they expect to do applicant plans for new T mobile home 1763 01:46:48,930 --> 01:46:52,590 internet. And this is really where where this is going. This 1764 01:46:52,590 --> 01:46:55,350 is what AT and T wants to do. What T Mobile wants to do, will 1765 01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:58,410 break the mold for in home broadband as described in 1766 01:46:58,410 --> 01:47:01,350 applicants filing. The new T mobile home internet will 1767 01:47:01,350 --> 01:47:04,770 provide minimum speeds of 25 megabits per second downlink 1768 01:47:04,770 --> 01:47:08,460 three megabits per second uplink, more than fast enough 1769 01:47:08,460 --> 01:47:14,310 for streaming 4k Ultra HD video, provide average speeds above 100 1770 01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:19,470 megabits per second. But again, it's every single frequency. 1771 01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:23,250 They they redacted the frequency but they didn't list the 1772 01:47:23,250 --> 01:47:27,300 frequency in gigahertz. But in megahertz, I would have to say 1773 01:47:28,050 --> 01:47:35,310 6000 megahertz which would be five gigahertz. But it's it's 1774 01:47:35,310 --> 01:47:37,680 all redacted. So we don't really know the frequencies they're 1775 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:42,300 going to be on. But my point is this, that they don't know 1776 01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:43,110 themselves. 1777 01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,630 John C. Dvorak: It's also possible, but they talk about, 1778 01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,000 it's also possible that there's a bidding war coming up, and 1779 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,710 they don't want anyone know what they're going to be bidding on. 1780 01:47:49,770 --> 01:47:52,710 Adam Curry: I think that is because this is the unlicensed 1781 01:47:52,710 --> 01:47:56,490 spectrum, as they call it, which is not entirely true. I think 1782 01:47:56,490 --> 01:47:59,850 that's why they're being cagey about it. But this took me into 1783 01:47:59,850 --> 01:48:03,690 the protocol itself. And this is very interesting, because, you 1784 01:48:03,690 --> 01:48:06,870 know, we talked about 5g, is it just the transmitters adjust the 1785 01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:09,870 frequency? No, it's really the protocol. And they have now at 1786 01:48:09,870 --> 01:48:14,310 this, I think the 16th version of it, as it's being rolled out. 1787 01:48:14,610 --> 01:48:19,650 This thing is essentially a prioritization system, it is the 1788 01:48:19,710 --> 01:48:25,380 opposite of net neutrality. The complete opposite, it gives high 1789 01:48:25,380 --> 01:48:31,650 priority to some media, lower priority to lower latency, 1790 01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:40,500 applications, high priority to self driving cars, high access 1791 01:48:40,500 --> 01:48:45,120 priority to Internet of Things. It is it is the exact opposite 1792 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,360 of net neutrality, it is complete prioritization of 1793 01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,990 everything at the whim of whoever's running this network. 1794 01:48:53,490 --> 01:48:55,500 Something you don't hear anyone talking about. 1795 01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,430 John C. Dvorak: There's nobody knows what they're doing. AT and 1796 01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:59,820 T 1797 01:48:59,850 --> 01:49:04,080 Adam Curry: is doing the, the high frequency to the home, 1798 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,380 that'll be on the polls outside, whereas T Mobile, I think is 1799 01:49:07,380 --> 01:49:10,140 kind of gonna want that. No, that's exactly what we don't 1800 01:49:10,140 --> 01:49:16,920 want. But for sure. For sure this is the network itself is 1801 01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,500 not going to be one you really want to be connected to you want 1802 01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:21,930 to connect to the internet. I don't think you want to connect 1803 01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:25,650 through this 5g protocol which will downgrade anything that is 1804 01:49:25,650 --> 01:49:30,360 not explicitly promoted and sanctioned within the system 1805 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,290 within the network. 1806 01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:35,970 John C. Dvorak: Sounds right. Yeah. Which brings me says we're 1807 01:49:35,970 --> 01:49:38,040 talking about this sort of thing. I do want to talk about 1808 01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,780 the home plug. 1809 01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:43,170 Adam Curry: Yeah, is that is now is your is your power line. Is 1810 01:49:43,170 --> 01:49:45,150 that what's cutting out on the show all the time? 1811 01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:50,820 John C. Dvorak: I'm not hooked to that. Okay. The powerline 1812 01:49:50,820 --> 01:49:55,440 thing. I probably wouldn't be cutting out it. The way I was 1813 01:49:55,440 --> 01:50:00,000 cutting out on was a straight up straight from the router gig 1814 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,630 Your hurts. How that's cutting out is beyond me. That's what 1815 01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:08,520 I'm on now is a high frequency wireless Comcast connection, 1816 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:14,550 though. A home plug is used for various reasons is the best way 1817 01:50:14,550 --> 01:50:18,570 to get the Isolate back of the house, long distance stuff 1818 01:50:18,570 --> 01:50:22,170 without using without pumping up the Wi Fi. And just, you know, 1819 01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:23,820 Adam Curry: you're you already went through this right? And 1820 01:50:23,820 --> 01:50:25,620 you're gonna redo the whole thing? Yeah, yeah. Well, 1821 01:50:25,620 --> 01:50:27,270 John C. Dvorak: no, somebody wrote in say they want to know 1822 01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:30,870 the details like went through it. I just general by didn't 1823 01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:35,490 talk about the gear. All right. All right, good. So there's two 1824 01:50:35,490 --> 01:50:38,550 pieces of gear that I bought. And they both run simultaneously 1825 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:41,550 in parallel not interfering with each other. Because one's coming 1826 01:50:41,550 --> 01:50:47,100 off a one line one's coming off the other day, cheap one is the 1827 01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:51,030 ten.av 1000. And by the way, these are cross compatible, 1828 01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:53,490 anything home plug compatible works with each other, they have 1829 01:50:53,490 --> 01:50:57,600 different speeds. The AV 1000 is a gigabit product is the 1830 01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:02,400 cheapest thing. And it's $37.99. And I said ya know if you've 1831 01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,710 ever ordered one, but I sent you the details on that one, that's 1832 01:51:04,710 --> 01:51:10,260 what I wanted. Yes, yes, yes, the ham radio it's on order. The 1833 01:51:10,260 --> 01:51:13,080 other one which I have, which is a more elaborate One is cost 1834 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,430 4299, which is, and these are by the way, they come in pairs. So 1835 01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:22,650 you buy the 10.1 1000, it's just plugs in the wall, you stick a 1836 01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:27,810 connection from your router into it. And then you you, you pair 1837 01:51:27,810 --> 01:51:32,280 the two by pushing a button. And the two devices and you take the 1838 01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,890 other device, you unplug it from the wall, keep the one plugged 1839 01:51:34,890 --> 01:51:37,290 in where your where your router is, and then put the other one 1840 01:51:37,290 --> 01:51:40,170 anywhere you want in the house. And then the line will be going 1841 01:51:40,170 --> 01:51:44,580 down to that over the power over their home power lines. The TP 1842 01:51:44,580 --> 01:51:49,950 Link ac 750 is a little more elaborate because it is a it's 1843 01:51:49,950 --> 01:51:53,790 got a pass through which I net kind of recommend, which means 1844 01:51:53,790 --> 01:51:57,030 is the plug in the front that matches the plug in the back so 1845 01:51:57,030 --> 01:52:00,300 you can so you don't waste the plug, you know pass through is 1846 01:52:00,300 --> 01:52:07,650 you got a socket in the device itself. It's a 750 protocol, 1847 01:52:07,650 --> 01:52:12,210 which is 750 megabits per second, is still compatible. But 1848 01:52:12,210 --> 01:52:14,970 this one is interesting because you get the pair and the one 1849 01:52:15,150 --> 01:52:18,990 that goes by the router is just similar to rest, and it's used 1850 01:52:18,990 --> 01:52:22,650 and it's got a pass through plug. And then the other one 1851 01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:26,430 after you pair it and put it someplace in the house. The 1852 01:52:26,430 --> 01:52:32,400 other one is got three ports, three Ethernet ports coming out 1853 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:36,390 of it usually straight wires to three devices. And you can turn 1854 01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:41,940 on a Wi Fi hotspot if you want. And the Wi Fi hotspot will 1855 01:52:41,940 --> 01:52:46,230 reflect the the supposedly although I don't believe this is 1856 01:52:46,230 --> 01:52:50,250 quite true, because I have played with it. But supposedly 1857 01:52:50,250 --> 01:52:54,900 it reflects the exact functionality of the router. So 1858 01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:57,450 whatever your password is, it should be the same. Oh, that's 1859 01:52:57,450 --> 01:53:04,950 cool. And that one is 4299 I don't know which is the two I 1860 01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:09,720 would recommend. I liked the idea of the passthru. socket. 1861 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:15,360 The Wi Fi I don't need like three ports. The TP Link doesn't 1862 01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,300 have quite the speed, but it's not important. These things 1863 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,110 homeplug does have ones that run at two gigabits per second, 1864 01:53:22,110 --> 01:53:25,860 which I find to be rather use unusable and you can't get to 1865 01:53:25,860 --> 01:53:29,910 that number. I have not done a lot of testing of the 1866 01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:33,570 connections, what the speeds are using any of that. 1867 01:53:33,929 --> 01:53:36,269 Adam Curry: Definitely better than it used to be. I've used 1868 01:53:36,269 --> 01:53:38,849 those and it was not a good experience. So I'm just waiting 1869 01:53:38,849 --> 01:53:39,719 from what I 1870 01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:43,470 John C. Dvorak: felt in fact I talked to Dave Foley was at the 1871 01:53:44,340 --> 01:53:50,340 at the Ionis is a Grand Duke and he was and he does he's working 1872 01:53:50,340 --> 01:53:54,780 on 8k stuff for television he said I'd asked him of course the 1873 01:53:54,810 --> 01:53:57,390 first question you ask a guy when talking about that what's 1874 01:53:57,390 --> 01:54:01,950 what bandwidth you need to get a K stream 2020 megabits per 1875 01:54:01,950 --> 01:54:07,710 second we'll do it but he's talking to he was talking about 1876 01:54:07,740 --> 01:54:13,020 the same thing. Which is the the original of these things they 1877 01:54:13,020 --> 01:54:19,770 didn't work. No, they suck. They suck signal. These new ones they 1878 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,390 fantastic products. 1879 01:54:22,440 --> 01:54:25,530 Adam Curry: Man we we are just a product review show today. This 1880 01:54:25,530 --> 01:54:26,520 is fabulous. 1881 01:54:28,350 --> 01:54:31,350 John C. Dvorak: News. People are want to know these things 1882 01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:33,390 Adam Curry: while you can't you kind of repeated everything you 1883 01:54:33,390 --> 01:54:34,260 said on the last show. 1884 01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:36,960 John C. Dvorak: I didn't talk about the brands. I didn't talk 1885 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,270 about the pastures they didn't talk about the port numbers. 1886 01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:43,200 They didn't talk about the Wi Fi extension issue did no I did 1887 01:54:43,290 --> 01:54:48,000 okay. Anyway, but there it is. 1888 01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:51,780 Adam Curry: Anti vaccines 1889 01:54:53,580 --> 01:54:55,560 John C. Dvorak: issue when you go to vaccines right now. Yeah, 1890 01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:55,740 I 1891 01:54:55,740 --> 01:54:58,920 Adam Curry: got a series of clips. You might do something 1892 01:54:58,920 --> 01:54:59,280 else. 1893 01:54:59,730 --> 01:55:01,140 John C. Dvorak: Well, I Just wait. Yeah, I wanted to do the 1894 01:55:01,140 --> 01:55:05,040 vaccines after a while because I do have a cup because I took 1895 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:06,900 over since you dropped the ball. 1896 01:55:09,630 --> 01:55:12,900 Adam Curry: Okay, what did I drop the ball on this time? 1897 01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:18,330 John C. Dvorak: Digenova guy on the hucker a Huckabee show. 1898 01:55:18,690 --> 01:55:20,430 Adam Curry: Oh, Joe, Joe Digenova. 1899 01:55:21,059 --> 01:55:24,629 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Digenova that's guy. Yeah. So I saw him 1900 01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:27,479 again. I said, Okay, this guy's getting on my nerves. 1901 01:55:27,899 --> 01:55:30,659 Adam Curry: I didn't drop the ball. You're poaching in my turf 1902 01:55:30,659 --> 01:55:31,589 is what's going on? 1903 01:55:32,010 --> 01:55:34,590 John C. Dvorak: Okay, well, you could say that. I think that's 1904 01:55:34,590 --> 01:55:38,520 legit. So I poached the clip and I thought I'd play it. Bob 1905 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:39,000 Woodward, 1906 01:55:39,300 --> 01:55:42,510 Unknown: who is no Trump fan, for sure. And certainly not a 1907 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,420 card carrying member of the Republican National Committee, 1908 01:55:46,290 --> 01:55:49,260 basically was saying this was the work of John Brennan. 1909 01:55:50,069 --> 01:55:53,429 Well, there's no doubt. This is pretty simple stuff for career 1910 01:55:53,429 --> 01:55:57,809 prosecutors like Rudy and myself. It has been evident from 1911 01:55:57,809 --> 01:56:01,409 day one that there was a brazen plot to exonerate Hillary 1912 01:56:01,409 --> 01:56:05,129 Clinton illegally. And then if she lost the election, to frame 1913 01:56:05,129 --> 01:56:09,959 Donald Trump, this dossier was unknowing part of that it was 1914 01:56:09,959 --> 01:56:13,679 created by Hillary Clinton. It was created knowingly by John 1915 01:56:13,710 --> 01:56:15,960 Adam Curry: So what point did you not hear me play this clip 1916 01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:20,850 on the previous show? No. Okay. Here's my clip. Bob Woodward has 1917 01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:25,620 no shame damn clip Dvorak. That's what you get for 1918 01:56:25,620 --> 01:56:29,070 poaching. All right, I'll do an entre mom, then I'll get into 1919 01:56:29,070 --> 01:56:35,190 vaccines. Sheryl Sandberg. Very famous for her book Lean in. And 1920 01:56:35,190 --> 01:56:40,020 it started in it started a movement. And women were leaning 1921 01:56:40,020 --> 01:56:43,860 in, and women were saying Enough of this, and hashtag me too 1922 01:56:43,860 --> 01:56:47,910 started. And it was like, Hey, we're done. And by the way, no 1923 01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:51,060 disagreement from this show about sexual harassment 1924 01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:57,360 whatsoever. But sometimes things backfire. And they go too far. 1925 01:56:57,780 --> 01:57:00,450 Of course, it's our fault. It's men's fault that everything 1926 01:57:00,450 --> 01:57:03,210 that's happening to women is our fault, particularly old, 1927 01:57:03,210 --> 01:57:06,960 straight white men. And she was the patriarch, and she was on 1928 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:11,100 CNBC to talk about a very complicated result of the 1929 01:57:11,130 --> 01:57:13,530 leaning me to movement, 1930 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:15,990 Unknown: you are straight off the stage where you were just 1931 01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:19,710 talking about lean in and a new study you've just released 1932 01:57:19,710 --> 01:57:23,310 indicating that women are actually having less access to 1933 01:57:23,310 --> 01:57:27,120 mentorship, and to their bosses, then, then they were even a year 1934 01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:28,650 ago. What's going on here? 1935 01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,230 Yeah, it's really important. So today, we just released a 1936 01:57:31,230 --> 01:57:35,760 Leenane Survey Monkey study that shows that 60% of male managers 1937 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,810 in the United States are afraid to do a one on one activity with 1938 01:57:39,810 --> 01:57:42,360 a woman including having a meeting. I mean, can you believe 1939 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:47,460 that 60% of senior man is nine times more likely to hesitate to 1940 01:57:47,460 --> 01:57:51,030 travel with a woman and six times more likely to hesitate to 1941 01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:54,210 have a dinner with a woman. And the problem with that is women 1942 01:57:54,210 --> 01:57:57,060 already weren't getting the same mentorship, but men were 1943 01:57:57,060 --> 01:58:01,380 particularly women of color. And no one's ever gotten a promotion 1944 01:58:01,380 --> 01:58:05,100 without getting a one on one meeting. And so I think men and 1945 01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:07,050 women need to be able to travel together, they need to be able 1946 01:58:07,050 --> 01:58:10,020 to go to meetings together, go to meals together. All of that 1947 01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:12,900 can be done in public spaces, but those one on one 1948 01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:16,530 conversations. And if there's a man out there who doesn't want 1949 01:58:16,530 --> 01:58:18,900 to have worked dinners with a woman, then he shouldn't have 1950 01:58:18,900 --> 01:58:21,600 worked dinners with a man, you know, group lunches for 1951 01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:23,070 everyone, if that's how they feel. 1952 01:58:23,130 --> 01:58:26,160 It seems like the movements of the past year or so the time's 1953 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,410 up movement need to have actually had real negative 1954 01:58:28,410 --> 01:58:30,450 implications for many women in the workplace. What's your 1955 01:58:30,450 --> 01:58:32,550 message to corporate America about this? 1956 01:58:32,670 --> 01:58:35,370 So I don't believe they've had negative implications. I believe 1957 01:58:35,370 --> 01:58:38,250 they're overwhelmingly positive because half of women have been 1958 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:42,030 sexually harassed. But the thing is, it's not enough. It's really 1959 01:58:42,030 --> 01:58:45,630 important not to harass anyone. But that's pretty basic. We also 1960 01:58:45,630 --> 01:58:48,900 need to not be ignored. And so my message is if we want to 1961 01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:52,200 change workplace dynamics, you know, where the least sexual 1962 01:58:52,230 --> 01:58:55,440 harassment is, organizations that have more women in senior 1963 01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,920 leadership roles. And so we need to mentor women, we need to 1964 01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:02,040 sponsor women, we need to have one on one conversations with 1965 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,580 them that get them promoted. This numbers moved out. Last 1966 01:59:05,580 --> 01:59:08,610 year it was 46% of men were afraid to have that one on one 1967 01:59:08,610 --> 01:59:11,970 meeting today at 60. Both are totally unacceptable. 1968 01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:20,220 Adam Curry: I find this so sad. That this is her own survey her 1969 01:59:20,250 --> 01:59:27,180 her husband to died in Mexico on the treadmill. He was the the 1970 01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:30,690 majority shareholder, I think of the survey monkey. So it's 1971 01:59:31,500 --> 01:59:36,030 arguably she's the one of the largest shareholders. This is 1972 01:59:36,030 --> 01:59:39,510 exactly the this is the unintended consequences of 1973 01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:42,390 people who think they know what policy is. This is why when the 1974 01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:44,490 Federal Reserve raised or lowered, they don't know what 1975 01:59:44,490 --> 01:59:46,590 that don't no one knows what's really going to happen. There's 1976 01:59:46,590 --> 01:59:50,400 too many factors in the world, but to not be honest with 1977 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:54,360 yourself and say, variable. Thank you, to not be honest 1978 01:59:54,510 --> 01:59:58,560 enough to say, hey, we took it too far because people were 1979 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:04,980 getting trash. careers ruined many, you know, correctly. So, 1980 02:00:05,730 --> 02:00:06,420 but a lot of 1981 02:00:06,990 --> 02:00:09,780 John C. Dvorak: money, many under false accusations or 1982 02:00:09,780 --> 02:00:12,540 setups. In fact, you mentioned the situation at Kleiner 1983 02:00:12,540 --> 02:00:17,460 Perkins. I tried to sell me I'm in there that obviously one of 1984 02:00:17,460 --> 02:00:21,600 these sharks that was working there, and she was looking to 1985 02:00:22,290 --> 02:00:24,540 get you to say something or do something, you should tell that 1986 02:00:24,540 --> 02:00:26,670 story again, because it's quite interesting. It could these 1987 02:00:26,670 --> 02:00:27,600 people are out there. 1988 02:00:27,630 --> 02:00:29,580 Adam Curry: She was a receptionist at Kleiner Perkins, 1989 02:00:29,580 --> 02:00:34,380 who big investor in my company at the time. And they're, you 1990 02:00:34,380 --> 02:00:38,280 know, they'd been a customer as a party or client or party or 1991 02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:42,150 something. Hey, I got a call from Ray lane. He says that, you 1992 02:00:42,150 --> 02:00:47,490 know, did you? Did you suggest to go smoke illegal drugs and 1993 02:00:47,490 --> 02:00:52,680 take mushrooms with her pretty talking about? No, she said that 1994 02:00:52,710 --> 02:00:54,690 I turned around. And that, by the way that was at the 1995 02:00:54,690 --> 02:00:57,930 reception desk when she said that there was all these things. 1996 02:00:57,930 --> 02:01:01,740 And there was she had implicated five senior partners at Kleiner 1997 02:01:01,740 --> 02:01:04,620 Perkins. And it turns out, she'd been doing this at other 1998 02:01:04,620 --> 02:01:07,110 companies, which is very interesting about their hiring 1999 02:01:07,140 --> 02:01:09,030 practices. I don't know how they check stuff. 2000 02:01:09,540 --> 02:01:11,040 John C. Dvorak: Well, I can't that's the other thing. You 2001 02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:13,890 can't really check things anymore. Because it's illegal to 2002 02:01:13,890 --> 02:01:16,590 say anything bad about someone. We're talking about California 2003 02:01:16,590 --> 02:01:19,050 here. Yeah, suppose that these things take place. I took the 2004 02:01:19,050 --> 02:01:22,590 training you never did, by the way, at Amelio, about sexual 2005 02:01:22,590 --> 02:01:25,950 harassment. And I took the training showing all kinds of 2006 02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:29,730 lawsuits you can be sued for making a pass at a girl doesn't 2007 02:01:29,730 --> 02:01:32,190 even work at your company. If she's walking past the building 2008 02:01:32,190 --> 02:01:37,140 outside. It's unbelievable. This is discouraging. What just was 2009 02:01:37,140 --> 02:01:40,950 Cheryl Sanders is moaning and groaning absorber is is is part 2010 02:01:40,950 --> 02:01:43,890 of the system do if women expect that they're going to get any 2011 02:01:43,890 --> 02:01:47,130 further because the system has been set up by mostly the 2012 02:01:47,130 --> 02:01:50,370 courts? I don't even blame the women for this. It's it's 2013 02:01:50,490 --> 02:01:51,450 ruinous? Oh, no, 2014 02:01:51,450 --> 02:01:53,730 Adam Curry: I'm not I'm not saying the women are to blame. 2015 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,990 I'm saying the the veracity which this was picked up and 2016 02:01:58,020 --> 02:02:01,950 going after people and spreadsheets of people, and just 2017 02:02:01,980 --> 02:02:08,550 in trying to out people for, hey, everybody who has any kind 2018 02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:12,150 of corporate interests, like I'm going to stay away, I'm not 2019 02:02:12,150 --> 02:02:16,440 going to take the risk. I'm not taking why take a chance. And 2020 02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:21,390 that's unused. Sheryl Sandberg, that's on you to start a take 2021 02:02:21,390 --> 02:02:23,910 John C. Dvorak: a chance. You want me to go I'm not even 2022 02:02:23,910 --> 02:02:26,730 standing with I'm not going to go out and have a dinner with 2023 02:02:26,730 --> 02:02:31,980 some employee because I wanted to do some mentoring. No, that's 2024 02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,260 just I'm gonna just ask him to get sued. 2025 02:02:34,830 --> 02:02:38,430 Adam Curry: So very disturbing that she does not see this and 2026 02:02:38,460 --> 02:02:43,440 because now the problem is it's beyond the court system. It has 2027 02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:49,920 become a social thing. This guy looked at me funny. He said, I 2028 02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:51,120 had my hair look nice. 2029 02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:55,050 John C. Dvorak: That my hair looks nice. That's right. 2030 02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,900 Adam Curry: That's the society. That's the society we live in. 2031 02:02:57,930 --> 02:03:02,580 Do that. So congratulations on that. And I feel horrible for 2032 02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:08,250 women. This is completely shit. Because if this is exactly what 2033 02:03:08,250 --> 02:03:14,940 you did, it's the same thing with with trans. Male to female, 2034 02:03:15,060 --> 02:03:18,540 transgender, trans. I think I'm trying to get the language 2035 02:03:18,540 --> 02:03:21,960 rights. So don't get me excoriated in women's sports. 2036 02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:24,090 who get screwed over 2037 02:03:24,540 --> 02:03:27,690 John C. Dvorak: women. Oh, that that women's sports thing is a 2038 02:03:27,690 --> 02:03:32,970 disaster, too. Yes. I agree. Who gets screwed over who people get 2039 02:03:32,970 --> 02:03:38,970 screwed over are women? Yes. Not somebody who's become a woman or 2040 02:03:38,970 --> 02:03:41,250 someone who identifies as a woman who doesn't even do 2041 02:03:41,250 --> 02:03:44,340 anything. There's plenty of those types. You know, they're 2042 02:03:44,340 --> 02:03:47,700 not even transgender. They're just I've decided I'm a woman. 2043 02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:52,080 And then they say I'm gonna go play women's sports. And then 2044 02:03:52,110 --> 02:03:56,160 because of the catch 22 We've created for ourselves, oh, well, 2045 02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,430 you have to let them well, now they're playing competitive 2046 02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:59,940 sports. 2047 02:03:59,970 --> 02:04:02,430 Adam Curry: And if you're Billy Gene can't know, Martina 2048 02:04:02,430 --> 02:04:06,180 Navratilova. And you say, Hey, this is bullcrap. You're kicked 2049 02:04:06,180 --> 02:04:14,010 out of society. Get out of the group, you crazy woman. And in 2050 02:04:14,010 --> 02:04:19,650 the meantime, we have these insane laws. You know, don't 2051 02:04:19,650 --> 02:04:24,060 even you can't even think abortion, which rightly so women 2052 02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:27,780 are are protesting and saying, hey, it's my body. I'll do what 2053 02:04:27,780 --> 02:04:32,100 I want. Now. I just I don't want to go into this deep into this. 2054 02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:34,560 But I certainly agree that if you're if you find out you're 2055 02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,590 pregnant, you should be able to change that situation. Now if 2056 02:04:37,590 --> 02:04:39,810 you're waiting six months, I have a different feeling about 2057 02:04:39,810 --> 02:04:43,530 it. But certainly my body you can't tell me what you can do 2058 02:04:43,530 --> 02:04:48,510 with my body. Which drives me nuts really when you can't, 2059 02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:49,830 which drives me 2060 02:04:49,890 --> 02:04:54,930 John C. Dvorak: very funny. Really, really? What? Vaccine 2061 02:04:54,930 --> 02:04:55,560 police? 2062 02:04:56,250 --> 02:04:58,830 Adam Curry: This is where I was going. Thank you very much. This 2063 02:04:58,830 --> 02:05:04,110 was my bridge to Vax means and that is what is so disturbing is 2064 02:05:04,170 --> 02:05:07,080 stay off of my body. Men can't make decisions for my body but 2065 02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:10,470 when it comes to vaccines, shoot it into my kid's body. I'm all 2066 02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:18,270 for it. Robert Kennedy Jr. Branded an anti Vaxxer. John, 2067 02:05:18,270 --> 02:05:20,970 you and I are semi vaccines. We've been vaccinated we believe 2068 02:05:20,970 --> 02:05:24,360 in certain vaccinations, but not the smallpox vaccine, not the 2069 02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:28,680 almost 300 vaccines that are now on the slate. So this is 2070 02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:35,850 multiple clips. RFK Jr's voice affliction has gotten better. 2071 02:05:35,970 --> 02:05:39,690 He's much more understandable. I'm happy for him because now he 2072 02:05:39,690 --> 02:05:47,490 was outside against the capitol in Albany, New York. And he it's 2073 02:05:47,490 --> 02:05:50,280 in the show notes, you need to watch the whole thing for all 2074 02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:56,640 context, but he does. He mentions multiple facts which 2075 02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:02,880 you can look up that I think are very important, just for our own 2076 02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:07,650 group for our own producers, for yourself. And I want to play 2077 02:06:07,650 --> 02:06:10,410 these, it's, you know, most of them are about a minute long, 2078 02:06:10,410 --> 02:06:12,630 but it's you know, there's five of them. So it's going to take a 2079 02:06:12,630 --> 02:06:15,180 few minutes here, but I think it's worth it, otherwise it 2080 02:06:15,180 --> 02:06:20,490 wouldn't bore you. So we on the show, we've discussed many times 2081 02:06:20,490 --> 02:06:27,330 that the companies who make vaccines are are indemnified, 2082 02:06:27,330 --> 02:06:34,020 you cannot sue them. When did all of the problems start with 2083 02:06:34,020 --> 02:06:39,840 children's health? It started in 1989. And here's the history as 2084 02:06:40,380 --> 02:06:42,960 delivered by the Kennedy Jr. 2085 02:06:43,230 --> 02:06:48,750 Unknown: vaccine industry when I was a boy was $270 million. I 2086 02:06:48,750 --> 02:06:55,860 got three vaccines, I was fully compliant. Today, it is a $50 2087 02:06:55,860 --> 02:07:01,200 billion industry 20% of pharmaceutical revenues today, 2088 02:07:02,010 --> 02:07:06,330 with as the front end. At the back end are all the chronic 2089 02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:13,170 diseases that FDA says we think they are associated with 2090 02:07:13,170 --> 02:07:19,020 vaccines 150 injuries that are now listed on the product 2091 02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:23,820 inserts. And the reason they're listed on the product inserts is 2092 02:07:23,820 --> 02:07:28,650 because FDA has made a determination that those 2093 02:07:28,650 --> 02:07:34,200 injuries were more than likely caused by the vaccines. This is 2094 02:07:34,290 --> 02:07:40,230 the chronic disease epidemic. Adele was referring to when I 2095 02:07:40,230 --> 02:07:45,120 have six kids, if you're at my care, I had 11 Brothers and 2096 02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:51,120 sisters. I had over 50 cousins. I didn't know a single person 2097 02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:55,950 with a peanut allergy. Why no my kids all have food allergies, 2098 02:07:56,730 --> 02:08:00,660 because they were born after 1989 If you were born prior to 2099 02:08:00,660 --> 02:08:06,600 1989 your chance of having a chronic disease according to HHS 2100 02:08:07,020 --> 02:08:13,770 is 12.8%. If you're born after 1989, your chance of having a 2101 02:08:13,770 --> 02:08:19,440 chronic disease is 54%. What are they? The neurodevelopmental 2102 02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:24,690 diseases AD D ADHD speech delay, anger is a text read says 2103 02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:31,350 Tourette Syndrome, autism, autoimmune diseases Baray. 2104 02:08:31,890 --> 02:08:35,970 Multiple Sclerosis juvenile diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis. 2105 02:08:36,570 --> 02:08:42,450 You heard of lactic This is food allergies, rhinitis, asthma, 2106 02:08:42,780 --> 02:08:48,930 eczema. Congress ordered EPA to find out to do a study to find 2107 02:08:48,930 --> 02:08:56,010 out what year the disease epidemic started an EPA study is 2108 02:08:56,010 --> 02:08:58,230 that is that in 1989. 2109 02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:03,720 Adam Curry: So 1989 is when the indemnification took place. And 2110 02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:07,320 this is when I like how he positions this as the back end 2111 02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:10,050 is the real problem. And of course there's all kinds of 2112 02:09:10,050 --> 02:09:13,950 medication for all of those symptoms that according to the 2113 02:09:13,950 --> 02:09:19,290 product insert could be caused by the vaccine. We've seen is 2114 02:09:19,290 --> 02:09:26,040 John C. Dvorak: he implying that David putting stuff in the 2115 02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:29,520 vaccines and by the way, we do know if you remember the show 2116 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,810 from like eight years ago, seven years ago, where there was the 2117 02:09:33,810 --> 02:09:37,890 vaccines that were recalled because they had live virus in 2118 02:09:37,890 --> 02:09:40,830 them and it's actually going to create the disease and they 2119 02:09:40,830 --> 02:09:44,580 caught it somehow remember this one ever called wine flu thing I 2120 02:09:44,580 --> 02:09:48,450 recall this. And there was like these will get it bring the 2121 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,760 vaccines back because somebody somebody did some quality 2122 02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:54,690 control testing and they found that it wasn't a vaccine. It was 2123 02:09:54,690 --> 02:09:55,740 the disease. 2124 02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:58,710 Adam Curry: It's well we're going to get into that 2125 02:09:58,710 --> 02:10:01,860 specifically with that. Think will be an eye opener it was to 2126 02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:06,510 me. By the way, he has a whole organization that that is what 2127 02:10:06,510 --> 02:10:10,440 they want is safe vaccines, not anti vaccines. He mentioned this 2128 02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:16,260 later, you've probably seen that there were news reports about 2129 02:10:16,500 --> 02:10:20,160 social networks blocking people who are propagating 2130 02:10:20,430 --> 02:10:24,900 misinformation about vaccines. You're an anti Vaxxer you're 2131 02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:27,780 getting kicked off your ad platform Google results not 2132 02:10:27,780 --> 02:10:32,190 available. You read these reports? Well, he tells us 2133 02:10:32,190 --> 02:10:35,010 John C. Dvorak: he called I was called an anti Vaxxer by one of 2134 02:10:35,010 --> 02:10:36,210 the lip Joes. 2135 02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:40,830 Adam Curry: I didn't even I don't even know what to say to 2136 02:10:40,830 --> 02:10:46,590 that. Yeah, go on. It's interesting to find that so you 2137 02:10:46,590 --> 02:10:50,370 read the stories about social media and search engines, 2138 02:10:50,610 --> 02:10:52,170 removing results and kicking 2139 02:10:52,170 --> 02:10:53,850 John C. Dvorak: people. If you said somebody gets blocked or 2140 02:10:53,850 --> 02:10:57,180 they ban you until you take it, you have to delete that tweet 2141 02:10:57,180 --> 02:10:57,900 yourself. 2142 02:10:58,380 --> 02:11:01,410 Unknown: Well, now listen to this. All right, 273 new 2143 02:11:01,410 --> 02:11:06,360 vaccines in the pipeline. But I was astonished. When one of the 2144 02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:10,200 leading Democrats in our country, Adam Schiff, went to 2145 02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:17,550 the internet Titans to Facebook, to Google, which has a $668 2146 02:11:17,580 --> 02:11:24,330 million partnership with GlaxoSmithKline. The biggest, 2147 02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:28,710 the biggest vaccine producer in the world, to make drugs and to 2148 02:11:28,710 --> 02:11:32,520 mine your perfect for your personal information, so they 2149 02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:41,400 can sell you more drugs and do Pinterest, Facebook, Instagram, 2150 02:11:41,580 --> 02:11:46,110 all of the different and Amazon and told them you need to start 2151 02:11:46,530 --> 02:11:51,660 censoring information about complaints and information about 2152 02:11:51,690 --> 02:11:53,370 pharmaceutical products. 2153 02:11:53,820 --> 02:11:58,110 Adam Curry: Adam Schiff went to the companies and said you have 2154 02:11:58,110 --> 02:12:04,950 to stop this. That is real censorship. That's government 2155 02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:08,430 orchestrated censorship. Adam Schiff, who 2156 02:12:08,429 --> 02:12:10,769 John C. Dvorak: said you have to stop what you had to stop people 2157 02:12:10,769 --> 02:12:14,219 that were questioning some of these vaccines I gauge Well, 2158 02:12:14,429 --> 02:12:18,569 Adam Curry: under the heading of you can't let misinformation get 2159 02:12:18,569 --> 02:12:21,809 out there. Adam Schiff 2160 02:12:22,350 --> 02:12:24,630 John C. Dvorak: so any discussion is misinformation 2161 02:12:24,630 --> 02:12:25,590 according to Adam Schiff. 2162 02:12:25,620 --> 02:12:29,220 Adam Curry: Yes. And he went to the to the, to the big Silicon 2163 02:12:29,220 --> 02:12:31,650 Valley companies that said you got to start removing that shit. 2164 02:12:32,130 --> 02:12:37,920 And they did. Outrageous but okay, let's get a little 2165 02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:44,100 background on the CDC, as we know that the drug companies are 2166 02:12:44,130 --> 02:12:47,940 indemnified for problems occurring from vaccines. What is 2167 02:12:47,940 --> 02:12:48,990 the history of this? 2168 02:12:49,860 --> 02:12:56,700 Unknown: Everybody knows. That's why we had this gold rush an 2169 02:12:56,700 --> 02:13:01,230 explosion of vaccines beginning in 1989. And most people do not 2170 02:13:01,260 --> 02:13:05,670 know that the vaccine companies have an even more important 2171 02:13:06,210 --> 02:13:11,490 exemption. They are exempt from safety testing their products. 2172 02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:16,980 It is the only medical product reasons that is because it's an 2173 02:13:16,980 --> 02:13:23,220 artifact of CDC his legacy as the Public Health Service, which 2174 02:13:23,220 --> 02:13:29,490 was a quasi military Agency, and the CDC took it over in the late 2175 02:13:29,490 --> 02:13:35,730 1970s. But the and that's why people at CDC often and military 2176 02:13:35,730 --> 02:13:41,130 ranks like Surgeon General, the vaccine program was initiated as 2177 02:13:41,130 --> 02:13:44,820 a national security defense against biological attack. 2178 02:13:45,180 --> 02:13:48,630 Because of that, they wanted to make sure that we could get 2179 02:13:48,690 --> 02:13:54,450 vaccines out to the public very quickly. If Russia sent anthrax 2180 02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:59,940 have a wanted to remove all of the regulatory impediments 2181 02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:05,610 provide, prevent the grip, quick deployment of a product or they 2182 02:14:05,610 --> 02:14:11,010 said if we call it a medicine, all medicines under the law have 2183 02:14:11,010 --> 02:14:14,970 to be safety tested as a double blind PLACEBO randomized has 2184 02:14:15,570 --> 02:14:19,950 usually for five years. We can't do that. So we're gonna call 2185 02:14:19,950 --> 02:14:23,970 them something different. We're gonna call them biologics, and 2186 02:14:23,970 --> 02:14:27,300 we're gonna make it so they don't have to be tested all the 2187 02:14:27,330 --> 02:14:32,400 industry when it exploded in 1989. Took advantage that 2188 02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:36,330 loophole, and they brought all of these new products to market. 2189 02:14:37,020 --> 02:14:41,730 None of them have been tested, not one of 72 vaccines, 2190 02:14:42,210 --> 02:14:46,350 currently on the schedule mandated for our children, as 2191 02:14:46,350 --> 02:14:52,110 ever been tested against a placebo. That means that nobody 2192 02:14:52,350 --> 02:14:57,300 can scientifically tell you what the risk profile of that product 2193 02:14:57,300 --> 02:15:02,130 is. Nobody can tell you that that product is going to save 2194 02:15:02,190 --> 02:15:07,560 more lives than it can take with any scientific basis whatsoever. 2195 02:15:08,340 --> 02:15:14,280 And how can we, as a society, as a government, as a Democratic 2196 02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:19,470 Party, be mandating products for our children, when we cannot 2197 02:15:19,470 --> 02:15:22,140 tell them what the risk is of that product? 2198 02:15:22,530 --> 02:15:26,250 Adam Curry: So why don't you tell your lip Joe friends about 2199 02:15:26,250 --> 02:15:32,850 this no placebo study of any vaccine, which, and I'm just 2200 02:15:32,850 --> 02:15:37,320 going to take Kennedy's word for it is the opposite of scientific 2201 02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:38,430 proof that they're safe. 2202 02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:41,130 John C. Dvorak: What if What if I told them that what are they 2203 02:15:41,130 --> 02:15:44,280 going to say? I don't say yeah, there you go. Good example of 2204 02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:45,450 being an anti Vaxxer. 2205 02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:49,110 Adam Curry: Now the one of course, that is in the news, and 2206 02:15:49,110 --> 02:15:53,100 we know how that works. $25 billion a year is spent on 2207 02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:56,490 television advertising, are meant to be all television when 2208 02:15:56,490 --> 02:16:00,090 the majority of television advertising why not to tell you 2209 02:16:00,090 --> 02:16:03,750 that you just need to get this vaccine to live or this drug. 2210 02:16:04,140 --> 02:16:08,700 Now, it's control over the media, Hey, shut up or taking 2211 02:16:08,700 --> 02:16:11,820 our money away from you. You should be kind to what we're 2212 02:16:11,820 --> 02:16:15,600 doing here. The big one these days is the mumps measles 2213 02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:18,810 rubella vaccine. Turns out something very interesting is 2214 02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:22,650 going on with the MMR vaccine regarding testing. A weird 2215 02:16:22,650 --> 02:16:28,530 Unknown: thing was, was there was one vaccine, the MMR vaccine 2216 02:16:28,530 --> 02:16:32,700 that all of this hoopla is about. I was the only vaccine 2217 02:16:32,730 --> 02:16:37,530 that has no safety testing listed on its insert. And for 2218 02:16:37,530 --> 02:16:49,590 many years dal and I have been saying as weird. Do any what 2219 02:16:49,590 --> 02:17:03,480 happened? So we sued HHS? Is there any safety designee MMR? 2220 02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:08,100 Oh, three weeks ago, they gave us the safety testing. There 2221 02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:12,750 were 800 kids. Normally you have you have 20,000 kids and one of 2222 02:17:12,750 --> 02:17:19,560 the 20,000 subjects, there's 808 separate tests for 100 each, for 2223 02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:23,400 a drug that they are going to give to billions of people, the 2224 02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:29,040 testing lasted only 42 days, 50% of the kids were involved in 2225 02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:34,170 that to study had Astro and test pull up intensive illnesses, 2226 02:17:34,170 --> 02:17:40,470 serious ones, some of them for the full 42 days. 50% had 2227 02:17:40,470 --> 02:17:45,900 respiratory illnesses, some of them for 42 days, this is a 2228 02:17:45,900 --> 02:17:50,880 product that is worse according to its own records and the 2229 02:17:50,880 --> 02:17:52,980 illness and it's pretending to 2230 02:17:53,130 --> 02:17:57,780 Adam Curry: prevent. I found this to be just mind blowing. 2231 02:17:59,670 --> 02:18:03,660 800 Kids 42 days, that's the extent of testing on the MMR 2232 02:18:03,660 --> 02:18:04,500 vaccine. 2233 02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:07,740 John C. Dvorak: And it didn't work out. 2234 02:18:08,550 --> 02:18:11,460 Adam Curry: I mean, it didn't work out. It's a bonanza. No, 2235 02:18:11,459 --> 02:18:12,839 John C. Dvorak: I'm telling you about it didn't work out. I 2236 02:18:12,839 --> 02:18:15,029 mean, the testing proved of this stuff's not that great. 2237 02:18:15,060 --> 02:18:16,680 Adam Curry: Well, the kids are getting more sick from the 2238 02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:19,230 vaccine than you might that then you might get from them. He has 2239 02:18:19,230 --> 02:18:21,510 all kinds of other stats about how many people have actually 2240 02:18:21,510 --> 02:18:25,920 died from measles, etc. But I just I'm flabbergasted that that 2241 02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:31,320 is the extent of the testing that he that he had to sue HHS 2242 02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:34,440 over to even get it because it's not listed on the product on the 2243 02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:38,070 insert itself. Yeah, but of course, it has been tested on 2244 02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:40,560 millions of kids. It's just it's a live test and no one gives a 2245 02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:43,020 shit what happens to him. Yeah, too bad. 2246 02:18:44,370 --> 02:18:46,050 John C. Dvorak: Get two more quickies here. And of course the 2247 02:18:46,050 --> 02:18:48,510 government requires you get the thing you got to take this 2248 02:18:48,510 --> 02:18:52,320 horrible product. I mean it this is the whole scene is just a 2249 02:18:52,320 --> 02:18:56,160 bunch of pressure groups is that this is again, the average. And 2250 02:18:56,160 --> 02:18:58,530 this is what I talked about in the newsletter over and over 2251 02:18:58,530 --> 02:19:03,120 again, the corruption of the corporate advertising system. 2252 02:19:03,150 --> 02:19:03,810 And here 2253 02:19:03,810 --> 02:19:05,970 Adam Curry: is the clip about just that 2254 02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:10,170 Unknown: the reason they call you any back service is it's a 2255 02:19:10,170 --> 02:19:11,370 way of shutting 2256 02:19:11,370 --> 02:19:14,280 Adam Curry: us off. And that's means your lip Joe is John so 2257 02:19:14,280 --> 02:19:14,460 they 2258 02:19:14,460 --> 02:19:17,760 Unknown: don't have to debate these very, very serious issues 2259 02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:22,500 about vaccine safety. They don't have to debate this alright. And 2260 02:19:22,500 --> 02:19:30,060 they bought off the press $25 billion a year into advertising 2261 02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:33,630 are the only nation in the world other than New Zealand that 2262 02:19:33,630 --> 02:19:37,530 allows pharmaceutical advertising on television or 2263 02:19:37,530 --> 02:19:42,930 anywhere and they have been able to hide our press as a country. 2264 02:19:43,290 --> 02:19:48,300 So they're not only selling drugs was but they're also 2265 02:19:48,300 --> 02:19:54,600 dictating content. You see on they're telling us how they're 2266 02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:59,130 gonna censor Facebook because they don't want to get they want 2267 02:19:59,130 --> 02:20:04,170 to get rid of misinformation about vaccines. We're just 2268 02:20:04,170 --> 02:20:08,640 talking about science. We're giving them peer review. You 2269 02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:12,720 will never hear peer review from the vaccine proponent. What 2270 02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:16,530 you'll hear is appeals to authority for what does that 2271 02:20:16,530 --> 02:20:20,790 mean? The vaccines are safe because it sees as it's safe, 2272 02:20:21,330 --> 02:20:23,550 because who says it's safe? 2273 02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:27,720 Adam Curry: There you go, shut up, slave. It's safe. And I and 2274 02:20:27,750 --> 02:20:30,960 as I was listening to this, again, it makes so much sense to 2275 02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:34,410 me now that Silicon Valley is so deeply entrenched in these DNA 2276 02:20:34,410 --> 02:20:40,350 companies, because that's next. Oh, oh, boy. Yeah, you have this 2277 02:20:40,380 --> 02:20:43,710 this gene, you should probably get that shot to go with it. You 2278 02:20:43,710 --> 02:20:45,930 know, you don't want to die or you want to get the you know, 2279 02:20:45,960 --> 02:20:47,610 grow a lump or I. 2280 02:20:48,270 --> 02:20:51,450 John C. Dvorak: We had that on a couple of those. I had this clip 2281 02:20:51,450 --> 02:20:54,600 a couple of shows ago. Nobody can find it. Give me I didn't 2282 02:20:54,600 --> 02:21:00,480 run it. But it was about this woman who she took. I don't know 2283 02:21:00,480 --> 02:21:01,950 Adam Curry: if I can find it. Would you? What would you have 2284 02:21:01,950 --> 02:21:04,080 titled it? What would you have titled it? Well? 2285 02:21:04,260 --> 02:21:08,850 John C. Dvorak: It would be? That's a good question. 2286 02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:12,330 Adam Curry: Well, tell me what it was about. 2287 02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:14,370 John C. Dvorak: A woman treasures. You look at the word, 2288 02:21:14,670 --> 02:21:15,600 woman woman. 2289 02:21:15,630 --> 02:21:21,600 Adam Curry: I never saw anything about it. Let me see a woman a 2290 02:21:22,530 --> 02:21:29,670 man bludgeons woman Ebola from one woman. Woman book for felony 2291 02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:35,130 charge blasting Omar woman. I don't think so. John. 2292 02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:38,310 John C. Dvorak: Okay. Well, here's the story. She just took 2293 02:21:38,340 --> 02:21:45,510 a really nice clip that play that she took a one of these DNA 2294 02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:48,660 tests and then she came back with Oh, you got that gene 2295 02:21:48,660 --> 02:21:51,900 that's going to bracket gene B breast cancer. brockagh. BCA. 2296 02:21:51,960 --> 02:21:57,120 Two or one? Yes. Yeah. In with by the time you're 40. And so 2297 02:21:57,120 --> 02:22:01,470 she went and did she talk to a counselor about his Oh, yeah, 2298 02:22:01,470 --> 02:22:04,620 this test is absolutely fit. Yeah, you got the problem is you 2299 02:22:04,620 --> 02:22:07,080 can do whatever you want, but that's what you got. So she had 2300 02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:11,460 a double mastectomy. And then there was some Tet some years 2301 02:22:11,460 --> 02:22:16,590 later, that mess, as I said it right. She had her breasts 2302 02:22:16,590 --> 02:22:19,800 removed. And that turned out she had some mother gene that she 2303 02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:22,620 was looking into it had to do with some other signs of 2304 02:22:22,620 --> 02:22:26,190 lymphoma or something. And so she was retested for the DNA. So 2305 02:22:26,190 --> 02:22:31,470 you know, you didn't have that. Oh, my God. No, you'd have 2306 02:22:31,500 --> 02:22:35,580 there's not even on here. Oh, God. And the other thing, you 2307 02:22:35,580 --> 02:22:38,400 know, you don't may or may not have it, so. So there's a whole 2308 02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:40,890 thing was you're discussing this with some other women who had 2309 02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:46,380 these false positives. And then the guy says asker, he said, 2310 02:22:46,380 --> 02:22:48,960 What did you ask for a second opinion? He did another test. 2311 02:22:49,170 --> 02:22:51,480 She says, I went to the guys that did it's just no, 2312 02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:57,420 absolutely. The guys who do the testing, absolutely. You have 2313 02:22:57,420 --> 02:23:01,080 this there's nothing that you can do about it. And it was a 2314 02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:04,650 mistake she made. Wow. And that's the kind 2315 02:23:04,650 --> 02:23:06,930 Adam Curry: of thing that's promoted by Angelina Jolie. 2316 02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:11,190 Yeah, she's the one that came up with that promoted she had the 2317 02:23:11,190 --> 02:23:13,860 clinics that wouldn't vote it would redo your breasts all 2318 02:23:13,860 --> 02:23:17,460 beautiful too. It was like a package deal. Don't die get 2319 02:23:17,460 --> 02:23:21,750 great boobs. Yeah, damn had another exit strategy missed. 2320 02:23:23,610 --> 02:23:26,130 John C. Dvorak: So that was the kind of thing and you're right 2321 02:23:26,130 --> 02:23:30,210 it's gonna DNA is gonna be in the next batch of ways to scan 2322 02:23:30,210 --> 02:23:33,690 is basically just besides killing the public with this 2323 02:23:34,140 --> 02:23:38,760 crap products, which again, like I said, we they found a live 2324 02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:42,960 virus and many of these things in too bad. There's one, you get 2325 02:23:42,960 --> 02:23:44,640 the live virus and this is when we get 2326 02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:47,040 Adam Curry: one other data point here, just the last one I got. 2327 02:23:47,640 --> 02:23:51,420 Even though we kind of know it. He expands on how people who 2328 02:23:51,420 --> 02:23:56,010 work at CDC and FDA are in on the game. In fact, he calls 2329 02:23:56,010 --> 02:24:00,030 these organizations part of the big pharma industry 2330 02:24:00,210 --> 02:24:05,400 Unknown: at the FDA, which is us to protect us. ag products, 2331 02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:12,150 receives 75% of his budget from industry. A world health 2332 02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:20,640 organization receives 50% of its budget from pharma. The CDC is a 2333 02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:27,660 pharmaceutical company. It has about $5 billion a year. It 2334 02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:32,670 sells and buys in vaccines. Individual individuals within 2335 02:24:32,670 --> 02:24:38,370 HHS get worked on those vaccines at taxpayer expense. If they 2336 02:24:38,370 --> 02:24:42,090 worked on him, they're allowed to get royalty payments on the 2337 02:24:42,090 --> 02:24:46,680 vaccines they work for. So every vial of Gardasil that sold, 2338 02:24:47,100 --> 02:24:52,050 there are people within HHS has high level individuals who are 2339 02:24:52,050 --> 02:24:59,340 collecting $170,000 a year in royalties. And and HHS, NIH owns 2340 02:24:59,340 --> 02:25:03,330 part of that back At the end it is collecting money every year. 2341 02:25:03,870 --> 02:25:07,650 These are not regulatory agencies, either appendages of 2342 02:25:07,650 --> 02:25:10,560 the industry. Yep. 2343 02:25:12,090 --> 02:25:15,000 Adam Curry: And you can call me an anti Vaxxer if you want, but 2344 02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:19,170 I'm just looking out for your kids to know I'm a semi Vaxxer 2345 02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:23,250 John C. Dvorak: Well, I'll tell you this, this Kennedy guys, tz 2346 02:25:23,250 --> 02:25:24,240 stand on it, 2347 02:25:24,420 --> 02:25:28,800 Adam Curry: well, bless his heart, bless him, I pray for his 2348 02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:33,090 safety. There's not a good track record in the family, no 2349 02:25:33,150 --> 02:25:36,150 speaking truth to power then all of a sudden, you know, some bad 2350 02:25:36,150 --> 02:25:42,660 crap happens to him. So the the one thing we could do, if we're 2351 02:25:42,660 --> 02:25:47,310 looking for something to do is call for a ban of advertising 2352 02:25:47,340 --> 02:25:50,760 pharmaceuticals advertising just to call for a ban on advertising 2353 02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:57,210 to consumers. So that consumer media is not controlled by huge 2354 02:25:57,210 --> 02:26:01,440 swaths of money or you know and Adam Schiff 2355 02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:04,710 John C. Dvorak: vote that guy out 2356 02:26:05,490 --> 02:26:08,160 Adam Curry: that guy and I consider what he did not only to 2357 02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:14,310 be well, first unscrupulous, but that is you talk about deep 2358 02:26:14,310 --> 02:26:17,730 platforming and censorship that is actual censorship the 2359 02:26:17,730 --> 02:26:24,690 government telling companies to remove content is censorship. 2360 02:26:27,180 --> 02:26:30,300 And I'm sure he held something over the head oh yeah, we can 2361 02:26:30,300 --> 02:26:33,750 make some rules about you guys so you probably and why I 2362 02:26:33,750 --> 02:26:36,060 haven't looked it up but I have a pretty good guess that Schiff 2363 02:26:36,270 --> 02:26:42,060 get some get some some payments from the you know, not these 2364 02:26:42,060 --> 02:26:43,950 guys on putting their own pocket but then he gets a couple 2365 02:26:43,950 --> 02:26:46,080 million you can be on committees and you know, as far as 2366 02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:47,190 reelection campaign, 2367 02:26:47,220 --> 02:26:49,290 John C. Dvorak: you got to pay to be on the committee. So the 2368 02:26:49,290 --> 02:26:51,210 fact that if he really did that, and 2369 02:26:51,210 --> 02:26:54,570 Adam Curry: I'll take Kennedy at his word Schiff is lower than 2370 02:26:54,570 --> 02:26:58,170 whale shit. He is a horrible individual 2371 02:27:01,530 --> 02:27:03,600 John C. Dvorak: Well, I think we've over the years we've come 2372 02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:05,550 to that conclusion without that clip. 2373 02:27:06,870 --> 02:27:09,030 Adam Curry: What about Schiff? Yeah, he's 2374 02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:09,780 John C. Dvorak: a terrible guy. 2375 02:27:09,930 --> 02:27:11,760 Adam Curry: But this is actually something that is a real 2376 02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:16,050 problem. That's, you know, censorship to that degree. Isn't 2377 02:27:16,050 --> 02:27:18,990 there some illegality? Isn't there something that the is 2378 02:27:18,990 --> 02:27:20,700 wrong about that, besides just 2379 02:27:21,450 --> 02:27:23,790 John C. Dvorak: money wanted to sue someone they just, let's 2380 02:27:23,790 --> 02:27:27,900 face it, these guys are a bunch of weenies these tech CEOs that 2381 02:27:27,900 --> 02:27:30,570 just go along with the program. They're making too much money 2382 02:27:30,570 --> 02:27:32,010 that will rock the boat. 2383 02:27:32,370 --> 02:27:35,520 Adam Curry: Yeah. Anyway, smoke more pot, everybody. 2384 02:27:36,210 --> 02:27:39,000 Unknown: I'm gonna show my spoon by donating to no agenda. 2385 02:27:39,060 --> 02:27:41,820 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be 2386 02:27:41,820 --> 02:27:42,180 fun. 2387 02:27:50,430 --> 02:27:51,930 John C. Dvorak: Have a few people to think to say the 2388 02:27:51,930 --> 02:27:57,690 least? Because there's a to show. Thank you. mode to get in 2389 02:27:57,690 --> 02:27:59,940 late. I mean, you 2390 02:28:00,420 --> 02:28:02,760 Adam Curry: told everybody we'd be going long. 2391 02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:05,640 John C. Dvorak: Going long. Tell the affiliates de veau 2392 02:28:07,050 --> 02:28:13,410 de.vo $180 leads the list is Night of the shapeshifting Jews. 2393 02:28:15,810 --> 02:28:18,450 With more information on multiples of 18 or 2394 02:28:18,510 --> 02:28:21,090 Adam Curry: chive. Yes, the donation amounts Yes. 2395 02:28:21,119 --> 02:28:23,159 John C. Dvorak: Which Yeah, you know, I'm going to read this. 2396 02:28:23,249 --> 02:28:28,769 Okay. We're going over anyway. Mystical Jews called Cabalists 2397 02:28:28,769 --> 02:28:32,609 Kabbalist. Believe the letters of the Hebrew alphabet are the 2398 02:28:32,609 --> 02:28:35,429 building blocks of the universe and assigned numerical 2399 02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:41,969 equivalents called Gematria to reveal deeper meaning and 2400 02:28:41,999 --> 02:28:44,399 connections to understanding the meaning of life. For example, 2401 02:28:44,399 --> 02:28:48,809 the number 10 is the letter u do you read? The number eight is 2402 02:28:48,809 --> 02:28:54,299 the letter chess or chatter and chess good spells the word chi 2403 02:28:54,299 --> 02:28:58,739 Cha I would which means living or life. Therefore, in some 2404 02:28:58,739 --> 02:29:01,409 mystical ways, anything that equals 18 has a connection to 2405 02:29:01,409 --> 02:29:05,609 Chai life. This can be seen in jewelry as my daughter wears a 2406 02:29:06,449 --> 02:29:10,019 Chi Symbol see attached necklace for good luck, but you will 2407 02:29:10,019 --> 02:29:13,049 notice that many of my donations like today are in multiples of 2408 02:29:13,079 --> 02:29:18,779 chi or 18 as a good omen for Adam and Tina and the keeper of 2409 02:29:18,779 --> 02:29:19,769 marriage. Mazel tov. 2410 02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:22,380 Adam Curry: Thank you very much. And yes, that is officially the 2411 02:29:22,470 --> 02:29:26,970 any multiple of 18 If identified as such is the shapeshifting Jew 2412 02:29:26,970 --> 02:29:30,090 donation and we appreciate it. Debo. 2413 02:29:31,140 --> 02:29:34,500 John C. Dvorak: David Drew's comes in at 130 bucks. Uncle 2414 02:29:34,500 --> 02:29:38,310 Dave You sir Dave. He has a note that he sent in but we're going 2415 02:29:38,310 --> 02:29:43,290 to read it later. Sir Steve Dennis. Step Stevens Park cat, 2416 02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:49,830 Colorado 132 By the way, drusus 131 1394 Sir Dennis, Neil's 2417 02:29:49,980 --> 02:29:56,610 Bonica Hamburg Deutschland and one one. Kevin Silverman $110.20 2418 02:29:56,640 --> 02:29:59,220 Adam Curry: Kevin Silverman reached his knighthood today. 2419 02:29:59,220 --> 02:30:00,240 Did you have a note from him? Am 2420 02:30:03,090 --> 02:30:04,710 John C. Dvorak: I do i Yes. 2421 02:30:04,710 --> 02:30:07,890 Adam Curry: Thanks so well you you mentioned to me that he was 2422 02:30:07,890 --> 02:30:08,910 a knight today. 2423 02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:10,620 John C. Dvorak: Oh did I for the show? No, 2424 02:30:10,650 --> 02:30:13,980 Adam Curry: you made me write down his name. So I'm thinking 2425 02:30:13,980 --> 02:30:16,020 you have something in the squirrel males 2426 02:30:17,039 --> 02:30:19,529 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, you'd think that went yeah, there was 2427 02:30:19,529 --> 02:30:24,179 here it is. If now is saying it I don't know I lost it. If I 2428 02:30:24,179 --> 02:30:31,229 find it I'll read it later. It is well, as long as he's met put 2429 02:30:31,229 --> 02:30:32,969 it I think the only thing was that he needed to get his 2430 02:30:32,969 --> 02:30:36,269 knighthood in the list. Okay, so Dave Knight Knight of the 2431 02:30:36,299 --> 02:30:44,099 Nightwatch get it? Yes night. The night we get it. Boise Idaho 2432 02:30:44,099 --> 02:30:48,929 $101.01 book as low as $100.33 Neil 2433 02:30:48,990 --> 02:30:51,690 Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Hocus locusts 2434 02:30:51,930 --> 02:30:56,880 becomes sir Hocus Lucas Trix rabbit of thorium energy today. 2435 02:30:59,040 --> 02:30:59,910 You see on the list 2436 02:30:59,910 --> 02:31:03,210 John C. Dvorak: kitty. Bleep was blue. He should be 2437 02:31:03,450 --> 02:31:06,600 Adam Curry: just double check. Yes, he is on the list. And did 2438 02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:09,360 he have anything to say here I'd like to send out smooth sailing 2439 02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:12,630 karma to retired math teacher and fellow human or human fellow 2440 02:31:12,630 --> 02:31:22,260 ham. Jean Socrates. Jen Socrates sorry. Victor echo. zero juliet 2441 02:31:22,290 --> 02:31:26,130 Sierra, who is attempting to be the oldest human primate to sail 2442 02:31:26,130 --> 02:31:29,940 solo nonstop assisted around the world. She already holds title 2443 02:31:29,940 --> 02:31:31,980 as the oldest woman to do so having completed a 2444 02:31:31,980 --> 02:31:37,500 circumnavigation in 2013 when she was a sprightly, a sprightly 2445 02:31:37,500 --> 02:31:42,000 last of 70. Now it's 76 years seeking the same title for all 2446 02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:47,520 humankind. By the time you read this sailing vessel nereda will 2447 02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:51,090 have completed close to 20,000 nautical miles on 230 days at 2448 02:31:51,090 --> 02:31:54,420 sea and preparing to round the South Cape of New Zealand into 2449 02:31:54,420 --> 02:31:57,780 the Pacific on a final run into Vancouver. We're gonna give her 2450 02:31:57,780 --> 02:32:02,730 some karma for that. You've got karma does she have a rig with 2451 02:32:02,730 --> 02:32:05,970 her? Can we check her out on 14.3 100? 2452 02:32:06,780 --> 02:32:11,190 John C. Dvorak: Should I did find the note from my Kevin 2453 02:32:11,220 --> 02:32:14,910 Okay, ke v y and Silverman. Adam, congrats on you're getting 2454 02:32:14,910 --> 02:32:16,950 hitched. I wish you and your keeper all that happiness you 2455 02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:20,760 can handle put down a little extra show 1140 falls on the day 2456 02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:24,120 of my 28th and last radiation treatment for a benign tumor 2457 02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:28,680 next on my brainstem which the Navy discovered last year while 2458 02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:32,130 I was planning to retire I'll have an MRI done in a month 2459 02:32:32,130 --> 02:32:34,890 another six months to track any swelling and hopefully shrinkage 2460 02:32:34,890 --> 02:32:36,750 that of this stupid, unwanted mass. 2461 02:32:37,230 --> 02:32:39,750 Adam Curry: We gotta give them some kind of tumor 2462 02:32:39,750 --> 02:32:41,730 John C. Dvorak: reducing health karma would be greatly 2463 02:32:41,730 --> 02:32:42,510 appreciated. 2464 02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:48,780 Unknown: You've got karma reducing 2465 02:32:50,250 --> 02:32:57,150 John C. Dvorak: that's why I went back to Nick Niles. I think 2466 02:32:57,150 --> 02:33:01,590 Adam Curry: Neil, Neil it Niels Niels Berra boom spotter, 2467 02:33:01,980 --> 02:33:05,100 spotter boom. spotter home spotter boom 2468 02:33:05,670 --> 02:33:13,320 John C. Dvorak: in Holland 100 in field 100 from UK, Robert 2469 02:33:13,350 --> 02:33:18,960 Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania 100 Chris Daly 9999 2470 02:33:19,440 --> 02:33:21,570 Adam Curry: Robert Newell wanted to de douching list this first 2471 02:33:21,570 --> 02:33:22,080 donation. 2472 02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:25,590 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2473 02:33:28,170 --> 02:33:31,530 John C. Dvorak: Chris Daly 9999. Then Christopher Arnold Nisa de 2474 02:33:31,530 --> 02:33:33,030 douching at Ada ADA. 2475 02:33:34,680 --> 02:33:36,510 Unknown: You've been de deuced. 2476 02:33:39,180 --> 02:33:41,760 John C. Dvorak: Chris grey of the Isle of Wight. That's a 2477 02:33:41,820 --> 02:33:47,790 place to be at he used to fly there all the time. Peter White 2478 02:33:47,940 --> 02:33:53,190 808 Boob mu he says David Attenborough is a big British 2479 02:33:53,190 --> 02:34:01,830 movie. Guys, Graham Bucknell. Bucknell 808 Sir, I guess some 2480 02:34:01,830 --> 02:34:04,500 Carmi wants at the end for you guys actually. Okay, sir. Her 2481 02:34:04,500 --> 02:34:11,460 blam. 808 Congratulations on the wedding. Joseph mu MyTheo. In 2482 02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:12,240 Pittsburgh. 2483 02:34:12,270 --> 02:34:14,520 Adam Curry: I see me I think it's mid Low, Mid Low, 2484 02:34:15,060 --> 02:34:20,190 John C. Dvorak: Mid low. Maybe? Sure. Rick, the famous or Reagan 2485 02:34:20,190 --> 02:34:25,380 Arlington, Washington 6996. And by the way, MIT low is an Eagle 2486 02:34:25,380 --> 02:34:32,520 Scout. Pastor and a douchebag. But he says strange combination 2487 02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:34,680 rusty jones 6971. Rusty 2488 02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:35,250 Adam Curry: needs a DD 2489 02:34:36,960 --> 02:34:40,560 Unknown: you've been de deuced longtime listeners today. 2490 02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:46,020 John C. Dvorak: Eric makaira with smacker it's my carrots, 2491 02:34:46,050 --> 02:34:49,110 Adam Curry: carrots. We do it every day. The macara what's 2492 02:34:49,470 --> 02:34:54,720 John C. Dvorak: the Keroh it's 6969 is a coro. New Mexico is 2493 02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:59,220 Robert Alter in Kansas City, Missouri. 6611 Sir Paul from 2494 02:34:59,220 --> 02:35:08,310 Horseheads 64/15 birthday coming up, Nico Fusaro 6042 Jake Kenyon 2495 02:35:08,340 --> 02:35:16,140 in Morayfield, Queensland, Australia 5858 And he's got a 2496 02:35:16,140 --> 02:35:21,930 birthday for his dad. Alex gates, why is Wausau Wisconsin 2497 02:35:21,930 --> 02:35:28,350 statistics 95 William Kozue in Westchester, Ohio 5611 Dean 2498 02:35:28,350 --> 02:35:32,520 Roker 5510 Double nickels on the dime Justin Davidson Portland 2499 02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:37,200 Oregon needs some moving Carmo give you that the de douching 2500 02:35:40,470 --> 02:35:41,640 Unknown: de deuced 2501 02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:48,690 John C. Dvorak: some information in that note, Matthew Parker and 2502 02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:54,780 it was certified that Matthew Parker 54 Sir Lu the shoe Lou 2503 02:35:54,780 --> 02:36:04,560 the show 54 Sir phenom 5351 Maurice, go and cast the now 2504 02:36:04,560 --> 02:36:11,160 Lanos see some wares do it. These are all wedding donate. 2505 02:36:12,540 --> 02:36:13,890 They're all 5191 2506 02:36:13,890 --> 02:36:20,520 Adam Curry: What country is GT? Could be Gibraltar Marco 2507 02:36:20,520 --> 02:36:21,540 Castilla nos? 2508 02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:24,810 John C. Dvorak: Do the top domain search GT sim Kenya. 2509 02:36:25,290 --> 02:36:25,620 Alright, 2510 02:36:25,650 --> 02:36:31,110 Adam Curry: Gran Turismo grand. Thanks, guys. Thanks, trolls. 2511 02:36:32,670 --> 02:36:33,960 Grant to reasonable 2512 02:36:35,460 --> 02:36:39,360 John C. Dvorak: Baroness Tanya Wyman in New York City did the 2513 02:36:39,360 --> 02:36:44,490 191 sir Good. These are all 5190 ones circle Aries, Washington 2514 02:36:44,490 --> 02:36:51,690 Nick, Nick. Nicole. Russo. Richard Clayton, Robert Marsh, 2515 02:36:52,260 --> 02:37:01,290 Ellen sour Eileen. Eileen, sour even better. Katie? Coach, COO, 2516 02:37:01,380 --> 02:37:06,360 coo coo coo Yeah, I think I'm gonna try Coco Bower. coucal 2517 02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:12,960 Bower, why not? For his her husband Sean. Sean Cavanaugh. 2518 02:37:13,590 --> 02:37:19,410 Words from him. Yes to him. Which is sweet. John Holly. 2519 02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:24,450 Richard Bauer Sachs in Cedar Rapids, Iowa with a D 191. Oh, 2520 02:37:24,450 --> 02:37:31,590 these are all 2191 s shed Ben. Ever adverum Ash, a shed been 2521 02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:37,140 adverum in these in Hanover, Pennsylvania. James frost in 2522 02:37:37,140 --> 02:37:42,420 lost wages Nevada. Sure. Adam of the of the Koch empire. What's 2523 02:37:42,420 --> 02:37:46,290 interesting to the curries for Eddie's in Perdido Key Florida 2524 02:37:46,290 --> 02:37:53,010 3191. Michael Greer, Christine co de guy. Pamela said sad lon, 2525 02:37:53,220 --> 02:38:00,510 sir Lucas of the last bits. John D. Kick ish. Greg Fisher. 2526 02:38:01,260 --> 02:38:07,650 Laurent bureau. Sir John Knowles, Baron of Mophie 2527 02:38:07,680 --> 02:38:12,300 Murphysboro? I'm glad to see us in their service monster Kim 2528 02:38:12,300 --> 02:38:20,310 Michael Parkins John's Zollinger Jason Peterson, Thomas Norton, 2529 02:38:20,310 --> 02:38:25,980 you have a lot of well wishers. A lot of love man nerding Matt 2530 02:38:26,010 --> 02:38:32,040 Losee Tracy Bassano when she's in Alabama, Tim Powers in New 2531 02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:37,740 Castle Oklahoma. Chase in Arras Gil ski. Christie McCall in 2532 02:38:37,740 --> 02:38:46,350 Washington. John jolly John Tierney key Kenneth Lehrman, Jr. 2533 02:38:46,500 --> 02:38:53,190 Jonathan Evans, Philip Ellen Gingrich, Eric Hof Ray Jacobson. 2534 02:38:54,930 --> 02:39:02,430 Anthony Rodriguez, Mark Hampton, Ryan, Temperton Danny Haynes, 2535 02:39:02,610 --> 02:39:08,880 Steven. Sure. Shern shrink shirk, try that one shirk. 2536 02:39:09,450 --> 02:39:16,620 shirk. It's pretty weird. Oleg Nikes been a Nike, Nike any one 2537 02:39:16,620 --> 02:39:21,750 of the two, I wanted to three Jonathan Schroeder Ryan Kogler 2538 02:39:22,770 --> 02:39:31,440 Nicholas Prince seap how co Santi Maha Sangha Santa ma Z 2539 02:39:31,470 --> 02:39:38,460 Feruz in Troutdale, Oregon, Stephen Springer. Andrea 2540 02:39:38,490 --> 02:39:44,520 Marburger, Chris Novak, Steven Schnabel. Sir John of South 2541 02:39:44,520 --> 02:39:49,530 London. You'll be out to meet up. Morton Kiernan. Sir Don of 2542 02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:58,140 Paintsville. Alex Winchell. Ken price, Sir Richard the Lionheart 2543 02:39:58,170 --> 02:40:04,230 Joshua parchment in El Paso. So, Jessica STOVL Stover Stobi 2544 02:40:04,260 --> 02:40:10,890 Stobi. Those double Stobi Woodland Hills, Paul Eaton, the 2545 02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:15,660 sergeant postle in Miami Lakes Florida. Nathan ranch for D 191. 2546 02:40:15,690 --> 02:40:22,800 Paul DuBois, Dorian Kenny kunitsky. Monica de Monica 2547 02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:27,450 Lansing. Yep, we're still getting there. And commander 2548 02:40:27,450 --> 02:40:32,490 Cody. David when GS J 2549 02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:35,790 Adam Curry: your own with your own character off which means 2550 02:40:36,450 --> 02:40:37,680 your own graveyard. 2551 02:40:39,390 --> 02:40:43,830 John C. Dvorak: Oh, okay. Got J could it chinny? Could it Ginny 2552 02:40:44,220 --> 02:40:49,680 Shawn newcomer in Clinton New York. Sir Todd moss in Tempe 2553 02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:53,610 Arizona survive of the virtual reality Robert? Luca della the 2554 02:40:53,610 --> 02:40:59,790 second sir Duma of the Black Swamp, sir codes a lot. Sir 2555 02:40:59,820 --> 02:41:06,990 Christoph Pete snowed in Buckeye. Sir Ernesto Grande, Sir 2556 02:41:06,990 --> 02:41:14,790 Ken pencil Vin Tukey. Evo Welton Taylor, Martin, Arthur gobbets, 2557 02:41:14,790 --> 02:41:19,350 who was Sir Arthur, Gabriel, Gabriel and Vaughn who's 2558 02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:23,550 Adam Curry: an hour and a half on out on how it's made of wood 2559 02:41:23,550 --> 02:41:27,780 John C. Dvorak: Andrew Bentley in Tacoma, Gerald. Gerald 2560 02:41:27,780 --> 02:41:33,060 Preston Brian McKinney, sir loud pipe yo to get married more 2561 02:41:33,060 --> 02:41:35,040 often. Loud pipe. 2562 02:41:35,310 --> 02:41:37,110 Adam Curry: Here's the thing. When we celebrate our one year 2563 02:41:37,110 --> 02:41:40,530 anniversary, we'll just do $1 donation so it kind of evens 2564 02:41:40,530 --> 02:41:40,860 out. 2565 02:41:42,090 --> 02:41:46,110 John C. Dvorak: Carol a chase? No do the date. Sir code monkey. 2566 02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:52,740 Sir Kevin Vikon of the moon. Paul random. Sir Greg of Parts 2567 02:41:52,740 --> 02:41:59,430 Unknown. Jeremy Hall. Paul. David Corbin. No. Sir Paul from 2568 02:41:59,430 --> 02:42:05,340 Horseheads. Eric Elaine. Catherine served sir Dame 2569 02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:06,180 Catherine such I 2570 02:42:06,180 --> 02:42:08,430 Adam Curry: take a couple of just to give you a breather. You 2571 02:42:08,430 --> 02:42:12,360 can hang up your phone. Yeah, good idea. Let's see. Okay, sir. 2572 02:42:12,360 --> 02:42:15,660 jossan Greenville, South Carolina Sir John Helmer and 2573 02:42:15,660 --> 02:42:21,720 Shawnee, Kansas anonymous in Deutschland Sir Howard is Sir 2574 02:42:21,720 --> 02:42:24,690 Robert Bruckner barren of the desert sprawl. Thank you, 2575 02:42:24,960 --> 02:42:29,460 Derrick Burdette sir Eric VM Baron of the valley and Van 2576 02:42:29,460 --> 02:42:32,910 Nuys, California Jacobina Coonan. In the Netherlands, John 2577 02:42:32,910 --> 02:42:37,950 grumbling Jackson Butler and leveling Texas, Matthew Stevens, 2578 02:42:37,980 --> 02:42:45,330 David Hutchison de money Penny and Davis, California. Mr. 2579 02:42:45,330 --> 02:42:49,590 Anonymous engineer from Colorado, James McClure's or 2580 02:42:49,590 --> 02:42:53,550 Craig Porter, the ronin Robert Smiley from Holland, 2581 02:42:53,550 --> 02:42:56,850 Pennsylvania, Brian Moss, Rancho, Santa Margarita, 2582 02:42:56,850 --> 02:43:01,410 California. Lee scar, Beck and Springfield, Pennsylvania, Brad 2583 02:43:01,410 --> 02:43:07,260 Horowitz, Sam Luang Toronto, Ontario Matthew cargo in gobles. 2584 02:43:07,290 --> 02:43:14,460 Michigan. Michael Smith, Sir Christopher Barron of Brown 2585 02:43:14,730 --> 02:43:19,770 County. He's in Tampere and Wisconsin, Jonathan Weitzman, 2586 02:43:20,100 --> 02:43:24,270 Alain de Peterson and St. Louis Carol Morell, and Molinari 2587 02:43:24,810 --> 02:43:29,490 Burnett Chris Colin Cohen in Austin David Stewart, Steven E. 2588 02:43:29,490 --> 02:43:35,490 TAFs. John Aiken, sir code monkey. Antonio McMullen. Paskal 2589 02:43:35,490 --> 02:43:40,020 Sally in most housing the Netherlands Andrew Fisher, John 2590 02:43:40,020 --> 02:43:44,220 Donovan Caleb hilly. Kailyn Nistor in Northville, Michigan I 2591 02:43:44,220 --> 02:43:50,610 think he's Sir Kevin Reynolds, Christoph Herrick in Deutschland 2592 02:43:50,970 --> 02:43:53,010 John C. Dvorak: herring. Herring. Thank 2593 02:43:53,010 --> 02:43:58,980 Adam Curry: you. AIG head, AIG, AIG head in Dayton, Ohio, Mark 2594 02:43:58,980 --> 02:44:02,790 Borg AC, Marco Frison, the Netherlands sir Mike of 2595 02:44:02,790 --> 02:44:08,640 Wakefield, Doug Andrews, Forrest Martin, who also has a birthday. 2596 02:44:08,939 --> 02:44:10,829 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and that's the end of the list actually for 2597 02:44:10,829 --> 02:44:11,399 us. Martin is 2598 02:44:11,550 --> 02:44:13,590 Adam Curry: Oh, you're right. I'm sorry. Okay, perfect. We 2599 02:44:13,590 --> 02:44:14,070 made it 2600 02:44:15,450 --> 02:44:20,190 John C. Dvorak: to Jonathan Dennison comes in at 5150 Tim 2601 02:44:20,190 --> 02:44:23,700 White 5150 Don't forget people this for two shows Kelly 2602 02:44:23,700 --> 02:44:30,930 Flanagan and McCall Idaho. Derek Archer Parts Unknown 5119 Ian 2603 02:44:31,050 --> 02:44:36,990 Odom and weed. Ah, he's the one. He says sorry to hear Adam was 2604 02:44:37,020 --> 02:44:41,730 unlucky enough to receive the chip mug? Well, John's 2605 02:44:41,730 --> 02:44:45,390 miraculously survived. It's amazing how that happens. I'm 2606 02:44:45,390 --> 02:44:47,940 not known for my packaging skills. Please let me know if 2607 02:44:47,940 --> 02:44:50,940 you want a new mug. I do. I'd be more than happy to send one 2608 02:44:50,940 --> 02:44:53,550 directly to your nonexistent address at the new house yet 2609 02:44:53,550 --> 02:44:56,040 actually when you get the address shorted out which is 2610 02:44:56,040 --> 02:44:59,670 kind of I think we will have it would be nice to send him one 2611 02:44:59,670 --> 02:45:00,180 direct Well, 2612 02:45:00,180 --> 02:45:04,770 Adam Curry: I have a Pio box. Oh, can I mention my Pio box? 2613 02:45:05,130 --> 02:45:06,720 John C. Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. Okay, my 2614 02:45:06,720 --> 02:45:16,710 Adam Curry: Pio box is 18209 Pio box 18209 Austin, Texas 78760 2615 02:45:19,260 --> 02:45:22,830 John C. Dvorak: I didn't get to visit the curry compound. And it 2616 02:45:22,830 --> 02:45:26,610 is a very nice house has got lots of room and it's it's 2617 02:45:26,610 --> 02:45:31,080 butted up against a forest. It is a fabulous purchase and I'm 2618 02:45:31,080 --> 02:45:31,620 glad you thank you 2619 02:45:31,620 --> 02:45:34,080 Adam Curry: for saying ownership. We're coming from you 2620 02:45:34,080 --> 02:45:37,290 that means a lot because I you know, I discussed purchases with 2621 02:45:37,290 --> 02:45:42,300 you and we looked at, you know, value mailing. Like yeah, and 2622 02:45:42,390 --> 02:45:44,820 it's great. What do you think John was like? No, this is the 2623 02:45:44,820 --> 02:45:49,650 house I buy 75 grand, you know, junk shack somewhere? You're 2624 02:45:49,650 --> 02:45:52,170 probably right. I mean, that thing's gonna be worth a million 2625 02:45:52,170 --> 02:45:55,140 but it's like that quite moving condition. 2626 02:45:55,860 --> 02:45:59,250 John C. Dvorak: Well, they were very happy. You're actually 2627 02:45:59,340 --> 02:46:02,580 looking at your area. I think if Austin goes away it looks like 2628 02:46:02,580 --> 02:46:05,250 it's gonna go because it's these towns flow a certain way. It's 2629 02:46:05,250 --> 02:46:08,730 like a gobbly goo that just kind of floats somewhere and the next 2630 02:46:08,730 --> 02:46:11,130 thing you know that area become very valuable. It's a very good 2631 02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:15,210 I thought was a good a good house for the area especially is 2632 02:46:15,210 --> 02:46:21,810 new. It's nice. Onward with donations Andres Domenici $50.01 2633 02:46:22,260 --> 02:46:25,890 Andrew Ben's Sir Andrew, I believe in Imperial Missouri 2634 02:46:25,890 --> 02:46:29,130 5001. Now the following people or $50 donors name and location, 2635 02:46:29,130 --> 02:46:32,820 then we're done. Thomas told Talat are told that are taller 2636 02:46:32,850 --> 02:46:37,080 in Shawnee, Oklahoma Pat, Sir Patrick may calm in New York 2637 02:46:37,080 --> 02:46:41,580 City. David Timmons and Oklahoma City Scott lavender in 2638 02:46:41,580 --> 02:46:46,860 Montgomery, Texas. Brad Taylor and Duvall, Washington. Alexa 2639 02:46:46,860 --> 02:46:51,270 Delgado in Aptos, California, Robert case and mill spring, 2640 02:46:51,270 --> 02:46:56,250 North Carolina, Georgia, we chat with you who is a knight and I 2641 02:46:56,250 --> 02:46:58,620 can't remember what it is. He's got some designation and 2642 02:46:58,620 --> 02:47:05,040 Universal City author, Arthur wickson. Andrew gusik, in 2643 02:47:05,040 --> 02:47:12,300 Greensboro basket bask our den Donna in Birmingham. And that's 2644 02:47:12,300 --> 02:47:18,210 Birmingham, UK. Joel de ruin in Savannah, Georgia, Daniel laboy 2645 02:47:18,210 --> 02:47:22,350 in Bath, Michigan. And last but not least, our buddy surgery 2646 02:47:22,350 --> 02:47:25,950 wing and Roth down there in Saugus, California want to thank 2647 02:47:25,950 --> 02:47:28,650 all these folks for producing this show. And the last show, 2648 02:47:28,650 --> 02:47:31,260 this is a two shows again, he said his wife went so long, I 2649 02:47:31,890 --> 02:47:35,460 want to thank these folks and for congratulating Adam and his 2650 02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:38,550 wedding. And now I'm encouraging him to get married more often. 2651 02:47:41,010 --> 02:47:44,250 Adam Curry: Thank you all very much on behalf of my wife and I, 2652 02:47:44,460 --> 02:47:49,410 I love saying it sounds really nice. That's very, very loving, 2653 02:47:49,560 --> 02:47:52,950 highly appreciated. Thank you so much for this, there's not much 2654 02:47:52,950 --> 02:47:55,380 more I can say about it than that. Because that is that is 2655 02:47:55,380 --> 02:47:58,050 just what it is. It's very, very loving. We appreciate that. 2656 02:47:58,050 --> 02:48:02,010 Also, thank you to everybody who came in under $50. With your 2657 02:48:02,010 --> 02:48:07,110 regular subscriptions, your 1111 just 3330 threes, your fives 2658 02:48:07,110 --> 02:48:10,260 whatever it is you're on. We appreciate that just as much. 2659 02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:12,780 And of course our executive producers and Associate 2660 02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:16,050 Executive producers who we did think earlier on and we'll do 2661 02:48:16,050 --> 02:48:18,900 another show on Sunday it'll we'll have shorter donation 2662 02:48:18,900 --> 02:48:21,990 segments again for two shows. But we are very proud to be a 2663 02:48:21,990 --> 02:48:25,740 part of this grand experiment our value for value network and 2664 02:48:25,740 --> 02:48:32,430 you can support us at vo.org/and a special relationship karma and 2665 02:48:32,430 --> 02:48:36,540 some jobs karma for Sir Geoffrey Tobik there in Albuquerque, New 2666 02:48:36,540 --> 02:48:38,610 Mexico and for everyone else who needs 2667 02:48:38,760 --> 02:48:43,800 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2668 02:48:46,080 --> 02:48:46,710 Karma. 2669 02:48:55,380 --> 02:48:58,650 Adam Curry: That's right, May 23 2019. Here's our birthday 2670 02:48:58,650 --> 02:49:02,430 list. Sir Paul from Horseheads celebrates on June 4. Getting in 2671 02:49:02,430 --> 02:49:05,730 nice and early. Jake Kenyon Happy Birthday to his dad Jeff 2672 02:49:05,730 --> 02:49:10,740 Kenyon turns 58 on the 27th of May Forrest Martin celebrated on 2673 02:49:10,740 --> 02:49:14,700 May 19, which is our wedding day I'll never forget to forrest and 2674 02:49:14,730 --> 02:49:17,940 undress Domenici Happy Birthday to his daughter Andrew Ellis who 2675 02:49:17,940 --> 02:49:22,290 turns 13 I presume today and Jonathan joven 33 years old 2676 02:49:22,290 --> 02:49:24,510 today. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best 2677 02:49:24,510 --> 02:49:30,930 podcast in the universe. Meet Up overview may 20/25. Eastern 2678 02:49:30,930 --> 02:49:33,630 North Carolina at the 25th as well Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 2679 02:49:33,630 --> 02:49:37,260 and may 29. And meet up in Tel Aviv, Israel, the 30th 2680 02:49:37,260 --> 02:49:40,920 Charleston, South Carolina June 2, Sarasota, Florida June 6, 2681 02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:45,390 Seattle, Washington, June 7, Toronto June 8 and Oklahoma City 2682 02:49:45,420 --> 02:49:49,800 Hey, they need people to sign up for Oklahoma City. We've got 2683 02:49:49,800 --> 02:49:52,530 only a couple people be great and you know what, even if it is 2684 02:49:52,530 --> 02:49:57,240 a couple people, you'll enjoy meeting other like minded open 2685 02:49:57,240 --> 02:50:01,860 individuals, the 15th in Copenhagen agan July 4, 2686 02:50:01,920 --> 02:50:05,190 interesting date. That'll be the revamp the return of the Seattle 2687 02:50:05,190 --> 02:50:08,550 meetup. And July 13, Atlanta, Georgia. That's what we have for 2688 02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:14,040 right now. Go to no agenda meetups.com where you can find 2689 02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:16,950 out where a meetup is taking place in your area. We'll have 2690 02:50:16,950 --> 02:50:21,450 the London meetup for the 12th I think we said that will be 2691 02:50:21,450 --> 02:50:25,590 listed within will really need someone to organize it so if you 2692 02:50:26,250 --> 02:50:30,060 feel so moved, let us know or get it started on no agenda 2693 02:50:30,060 --> 02:50:35,220 meetups.com And again, thank you all very much for organizing and 2694 02:50:35,250 --> 02:50:36,060 attending. 2695 02:50:43,740 --> 02:50:44,580 Unknown: Don't want to be 2696 02:50:44,670 --> 02:50:47,160 Adam Curry: a douchebag and realize that Sir Arthur 2697 02:50:47,160 --> 02:50:51,990 Gilbert's the hugger of kitties. becomes a byte count today, 2698 02:50:52,020 --> 02:50:55,140 which is great, so he will be vite count Sir Arthur Gilbert's 2699 02:50:55,140 --> 02:50:58,950 hugger of kiddies and the protector of thronging in which 2700 02:50:58,950 --> 02:51:03,000 had another fracking related earthquake, just the other 2701 02:51:03,000 --> 02:51:09,480 nights. Yay. Good on you guys. And then we have 12345 Nights. 2702 02:51:09,480 --> 02:51:14,070 So let me get my special blade here. You got yours there for 2703 02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:18,030 me, Johnny Boy. Yeah, but I don't see it. 2704 02:51:18,990 --> 02:51:19,890 John C. Dvorak: It's right here. 2705 02:51:19,890 --> 02:51:23,070 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I couldn't see it. Up on the 2706 02:51:23,070 --> 02:51:26,850 podium, we need Jonathan joven hookless Lucas, David Cheney, 2707 02:51:26,850 --> 02:51:29,880 Benjamin Doolin. And Kevin Silverman. Gentlemen, you all 2708 02:51:29,880 --> 02:51:33,090 have supported the no agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or 2709 02:51:33,090 --> 02:51:35,850 more that gives you the absolute right to sit here at the 2710 02:51:35,850 --> 02:51:39,360 roundtable of the no agenda Knights and Dames and I'm very 2711 02:51:39,360 --> 02:51:43,200 proud to pronounce the Kate V with the following title. Sir 2712 02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:46,440 joven of the visual effects are hocus pocus tricks rabbit of 2713 02:51:46,440 --> 02:51:50,580 thorium energy sir chaotic mass. Dueling the poor Knight of the 2714 02:51:50,580 --> 02:51:53,400 wood and Sir silver dude have the silver spoons for you 2715 02:51:53,400 --> 02:51:57,360 gentlemen hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay. We also 2716 02:51:57,360 --> 02:52:00,240 have cheese fondue and raclette bourbon and Bond had smoked 2717 02:52:00,240 --> 02:52:04,200 salmon and high quality H two O N ship, mutton and meat. 2718 02:52:04,440 --> 02:52:06,840 Couldn't get anything else in there but we'll stack the table 2719 02:52:06,840 --> 02:52:10,170 as best as we can you gentlemen please go to no agenda 2720 02:52:10,170 --> 02:52:14,760 nation.com/rings and Eric show will get on the stick as soon as 2721 02:52:14,760 --> 02:52:17,460 possible and remember to tweet it out. Looks really good good 2722 02:52:17,460 --> 02:52:19,830 for the show. Good for you good for everybody. When you get your 2723 02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:23,430 ring your ceiling wax and your certificate and please remember 2724 02:52:23,430 --> 02:52:27,420 to continue to support the value for value network@devora.org 2725 02:52:27,420 --> 02:52:28,290 slash Na 2726 02:52:31,920 --> 02:52:34,470 John C. Dvorak: is your cue so I got a couple of clips that are 2727 02:52:34,470 --> 02:52:38,070 funny, good. Ears I got a Buttigieg 2728 02:52:39,450 --> 02:52:40,920 Adam Curry: Mayor Pete of the hamlet 2729 02:52:41,790 --> 02:52:45,990 John C. Dvorak: Mayor Pete he's all in on us taking down statues 2730 02:52:45,990 --> 02:52:49,470 and you know Confederate and let's take down Thomas Jefferson 2731 02:52:49,470 --> 02:52:53,280 and remove him from from a dinner that they have somewhere 2732 02:52:53,280 --> 02:52:57,300 in Indiana and he's falling in I heard this That's bull crap and 2733 02:52:57,300 --> 02:52:59,910 so I went and got the clip. And in fact he did kind of 2734 02:52:59,940 --> 02:53:03,240 cavalierly saying hey, you know Jefferson was a dick and sit 2735 02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:03,780 down with him. 2736 02:53:03,960 --> 02:53:06,420 Unknown: Jefferson Jackson dinners be renamed everyone 2737 02:53:06,420 --> 02:53:08,550 we're holders of slaves. Yeah, we're doing 2738 02:53:08,550 --> 02:53:10,350 that in Indiana. I think it's the right thing to do you know 2739 02:53:10,350 --> 02:53:15,450 over time you develop and evolve on the things you choose to 2740 02:53:15,450 --> 02:53:20,220 honor and I think we know enough specially Jackson you just look 2741 02:53:20,220 --> 02:53:23,490 at what basically the genocide that happened here. Jefferson's 2742 02:53:23,490 --> 02:53:26,280 more problematic you know, there's a lot to of course 2743 02:53:26,280 --> 02:53:29,340 admire his thinking and his philosophy then again, if you 2744 02:53:29,340 --> 02:53:31,560 plunge into his writings, especially the notes on the 2745 02:53:31,560 --> 02:53:35,910 state of Virginia, you know that he knew that slavery was wrong 2746 02:53:36,480 --> 02:53:40,680 and and yet he did it a brother 2747 02:53:42,390 --> 02:53:43,440 John C. Dvorak: by shallow 2748 02:53:43,470 --> 02:53:46,590 Adam Curry: I mean really I mean, it's all of these guys all 2749 02:53:46,590 --> 02:53:50,640 they're doing is this and then you know, you got Beto on the 2750 02:53:50,640 --> 02:53:57,510 view apologizing for everything. It's like yeah, I'm really not 2751 02:53:57,510 --> 02:53:59,040 really groovy man. 2752 02:54:00,090 --> 02:54:03,120 John C. Dvorak: I have a clip by the kind of harkens back to our 2753 02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:08,400 show. Because we were we are on this fake chemical that the 2754 02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,610 chemical Yeah, the chemical attacks in Syria that made no 2755 02:54:11,610 --> 02:54:15,090 sense. And then we're debunked by various universities and 2756 02:54:15,360 --> 02:54:17,820 people who knew about him and it was there also the missiles 2757 02:54:17,850 --> 02:54:20,160 didn't go you know, they were too far away from this where 2758 02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:23,460 there should suppose the shot from every missile attack seem 2759 02:54:23,460 --> 02:54:27,450 to be some phony thing set up by the rebels. So now, of course, 2760 02:54:27,450 --> 02:54:30,030 that they got into the public domain that Syria was, you know, 2761 02:54:30,750 --> 02:54:33,780 was shooting these things and there was a red line and Obama 2762 02:54:33,780 --> 02:54:35,100 was a jerk for not buying it 2763 02:54:35,100 --> 02:54:37,440 Adam Curry: was the White Helmets staging stuff. Is that 2764 02:54:37,440 --> 02:54:39,210 what you're talking about? Yeah, that too. 2765 02:54:39,210 --> 02:54:41,130 John C. Dvorak: That's part of it. So let's listen to the 2766 02:54:41,130 --> 02:54:44,820 latest report on old chemical weapons comes up again. With 2767 02:54:44,820 --> 02:54:46,140 democracy now. It's all 2768 02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:48,330 Unknown: comes this new questions are being raised about 2769 02:54:48,330 --> 02:54:51,480 an alleged chemical weapons attack in the city of Duma last 2770 02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:55,020 year, the Syrian government was accused of dropping two gas 2771 02:54:55,020 --> 02:54:58,500 cylinders on the city killing dozens of people. The US and 2772 02:54:58,500 --> 02:55:02,130 allies responded by carrying out airstrikes. But a newly leaked 2773 02:55:02,130 --> 02:55:04,980 internal document from the organization for Prohibition of 2774 02:55:04,980 --> 02:55:08,400 Chemical Weapons reveals there were conflicting views within 2775 02:55:08,400 --> 02:55:11,430 the organization as to what happened. The leaked documents 2776 02:55:11,430 --> 02:55:14,700 suggest the cylinders were quote manually placed on the ground 2777 02:55:14,700 --> 02:55:18,000 and were not dropped from the air. This has led some observers 2778 02:55:18,000 --> 02:55:21,090 to conclude the chemical attack might have been staged by Syrian 2779 02:55:21,090 --> 02:55:25,620 rebels. MIT professor Theodore postle responded to the leaked 2780 02:55:25,620 --> 02:55:30,510 document by stating quote, as such 35 deaths that were 2781 02:55:30,510 --> 02:55:33,810 originally attributed to the stage chlorine events cannot be 2782 02:55:33,810 --> 02:55:36,840 explained. And it cannot be ruled out that these people were 2783 02:55:36,840 --> 02:55:40,350 murdered as part of the staging event Professor postal said 2784 02:55:40,410 --> 02:55:42,720 Adam Curry: oh, well where's the where's the headline news in the 2785 02:55:42,720 --> 02:55:43,830 New York Times we 2786 02:55:44,490 --> 02:55:49,470 John C. Dvorak: back up a little bit though. 35 people dead who 2787 02:55:49,470 --> 02:55:52,230 said they were dead? He's actually assumes that well, 2788 02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:55,770 let's make this really convincing and murder 35 people 2789 02:55:55,830 --> 02:55:58,050 Adam Curry: that's I think that's called a conspiracy 2790 02:55:58,080 --> 02:55:58,770 theory. 2791 02:55:59,250 --> 02:56:02,250 John C. Dvorak: Let's murder 35 People who don't you just stay 2792 02:56:02,250 --> 02:56:04,740 you show a bunch of people holding their breath and do what 2793 02:56:04,770 --> 02:56:07,050 you know. They just did. They've done this before over there they 2794 02:56:07,080 --> 02:56:11,100 because our media says stupid that Oh, yeah. Look, those guys 2795 02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:15,090 foaming at the mouth. Remember that one? Yeah. Gilbert. foaming 2796 02:56:15,090 --> 02:56:19,020 at the mouth. He is a toothpaste. And so so this guy 2797 02:56:19,020 --> 02:56:22,890 takes this guy takes it to the next level. And he okay, it's 2798 02:56:22,890 --> 02:56:25,500 been staged. The whole thing's a fake even though that's where 2799 02:56:25,530 --> 02:56:28,170 we're at. That is where Trump launched a bunch of missiles if 2800 02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:30,930 you don't forget, and he went on, you know, just 2801 02:56:30,960 --> 02:56:32,730 Adam Curry: by the way, who says they were real? 2802 02:56:33,900 --> 02:56:36,870 John C. Dvorak: Well, that's, we can go we can go to that to 2803 02:56:37,290 --> 02:56:39,450 where they are. They were aiming where they're supposed to be. 2804 02:56:41,790 --> 02:56:44,190 Adam Curry: I don't even know. I don't even know if they even hit 2805 02:56:44,190 --> 02:56:46,260 anything. I don't know if they launched what do I know you show 2806 02:56:46,260 --> 02:56:46,470 me some? 2807 02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:52,140 John C. Dvorak: If the unless the Chinese Embassy was hit, 2808 02:56:52,140 --> 02:56:55,680 they probably didn't launch anything. That's a call back 2809 02:56:55,860 --> 02:56:58,980 now. So this guy takes to the next level and actually believes 2810 02:56:59,250 --> 02:57:02,190 Yes, 35 people were killed in this thing. Because because 2811 02:57:02,190 --> 02:57:06,180 somebody said that. This How bad has become a professor and 2812 02:57:06,180 --> 02:57:12,060 that's the guy who can now analyze things. He Oh 35 dead. 2813 02:57:12,060 --> 02:57:15,450 They must have murdered them. It just beyond me. 2814 02:57:18,810 --> 02:57:25,110 Adam Curry: Not beyond me. All right, let me give you a little 2815 02:57:25,110 --> 02:57:28,980 update. Finally, mainstream is jumping on the bandwagon that 2816 02:57:28,980 --> 02:57:33,780 you introduced us to several weeks ago. That piggy Ebola 2817 02:57:33,810 --> 02:57:36,930 Unknown: China's pig population. The biggest in the world is 2818 02:57:36,930 --> 02:57:41,160 being ravaged by the deadly African swine fever virus for 2819 02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:45,330 which there's no vaccine is harmless to humans, but ASF is 2820 02:57:45,330 --> 02:57:48,750 estimated to have killed millions of pigs in China. Since 2821 02:57:48,750 --> 02:57:52,140 the outbreak was first detected in August last year. Social 2822 02:57:52,140 --> 02:57:55,920 media shows pig carcasses being dumped in the countryside and 2823 02:57:55,920 --> 02:58:00,060 video obtained by CNN revealed disturbing scenes of animals 2824 02:58:00,060 --> 02:58:03,660 being slaughtered, driven into pits and buried. The central 2825 02:58:03,660 --> 02:58:07,680 government says about 1 million pigs have been cold. But some 2826 02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:11,520 farmers CNN spoke to says the scale of the epidemic could be 2827 02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:15,180 bigger because it's not being recognized at local level. The 2828 02:58:15,180 --> 02:58:18,780 UN's Food and Agriculture Organization The FAO says 2829 02:58:18,780 --> 02:58:22,530 Beijing is taking the right steps but it may take years to 2830 02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:26,040 fully contain the outbreak. A report from a Dutch bank says 2831 02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:30,570 that China could lose between 150 million and 200 million pigs 2832 02:58:30,570 --> 02:58:34,380 this year. That's more than a third of its total herd. To put 2833 02:58:34,380 --> 02:58:37,680 that in context, the US farms a little more than 17 million 2834 02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:42,270 pigs. It's not just the farmers who are feeling the pain either. 2835 02:58:42,600 --> 02:58:45,540 This country is not only the world's biggest producer, it's 2836 02:58:45,540 --> 02:58:49,440 also by far the world's biggest consumer. And according to the 2837 02:58:49,440 --> 02:58:53,250 government's own statistics, the prices of pork that went markets 2838 02:58:53,250 --> 02:58:58,260 like this here in Beijing could rise as much as 70% by the end 2839 02:58:58,260 --> 02:59:02,070 of the year. That would mean record high prices for a staple 2840 02:59:02,070 --> 02:59:06,510 ingredient for 1.4 billion people and a potential big 2841 02:59:06,510 --> 02:59:09,660 inflation problem for the central government. The impact 2842 02:59:09,660 --> 02:59:12,990 is being felt globally. Pork prices at the Chicago Mercantile 2843 02:59:12,990 --> 02:59:16,710 Exchange are up 20% In the last three months and expected to go 2844 02:59:16,710 --> 02:59:20,340 higher. The price of bacon has already been rising in some 2845 02:59:20,340 --> 02:59:21,030 countries. 2846 02:59:23,250 --> 02:59:25,230 Adam Curry: You heard this on the no agenda show three weeks 2847 02:59:25,230 --> 02:59:25,500 ago. 2848 02:59:27,030 --> 02:59:27,930 Unknown: or longer. 2849 02:59:28,920 --> 02:59:35,370 John C. Dvorak: The this optimism about the pork prices 2850 02:59:35,370 --> 02:59:39,960 rising up to 70% I don't believe that I think it's definitely 2851 02:59:39,960 --> 02:59:41,190 gonna go higher than that. 2852 02:59:41,369 --> 02:59:44,459 Adam Curry: where's the where's the triple Hey, why don't they 2853 02:59:44,459 --> 02:59:50,819 have fake pig meat? Yeah, like the fake hamburger meat. The 2854 02:59:50,879 --> 02:59:52,919 company just went on that IP owed 2855 02:59:54,900 --> 02:59:56,700 John C. Dvorak: not that I know of. Why, 2856 02:59:56,850 --> 02:59:58,140 Adam Curry: why wouldn't they make that? 2857 02:59:58,980 --> 03:00:00,720 John C. Dvorak: Well, because craps 2858 03:00:01,740 --> 03:00:04,350 Adam Curry: exactly where's this? shaves yours eat it. 2859 03:00:04,590 --> 03:00:08,400 Where's the Savior's? Give the Chinese some of that chemical 2860 03:00:08,400 --> 03:00:12,570 meat that we're eating here or that we're given bugs can't the 2861 03:00:12,570 --> 03:00:13,710 bugs for protein yeah 2862 03:00:13,710 --> 03:00:17,700 John C. Dvorak: there you go now you knit you nailed it right but 2863 03:00:18,480 --> 03:00:21,210 Adam Curry: you put gets replaced pork with bugs? 2864 03:00:21,390 --> 03:00:22,650 John C. Dvorak: Yeah big roaches What 2865 03:00:22,650 --> 03:00:26,010 Adam Curry: is it good pig replacement when it comes to bug 2866 03:00:26,010 --> 03:00:26,640 protein. 2867 03:00:27,449 --> 03:00:31,169 John C. Dvorak: I have no idea. I don't eat bugs. So I don't 2868 03:00:31,169 --> 03:00:37,049 know. I just a little side clip here. This is an example this 2869 03:00:37,049 --> 03:00:40,379 what bothers me most about Congress. Here's Ben Carson 2870 03:00:40,379 --> 03:00:44,159 trying to answer questions from some douchebag Congresswoman, 2871 03:00:44,429 --> 03:00:45,749 and this is the way it goes. 2872 03:00:45,840 --> 03:00:47,580 Unknown: There's a miss Northcross a mother and a 2873 03:00:47,580 --> 03:00:50,370 grandmother living in Brighton in my district. She's raised her 2874 03:00:50,370 --> 03:00:52,740 children and now cares for her grandchildren and property but 2875 03:00:52,740 --> 03:00:56,100 thick mold on the walls. Her son was recently hospitalized. Look 2876 03:00:56,100 --> 03:00:58,950 at the pictures here. Because of bone tumors in his arm and lay 2877 03:00:58,980 --> 03:01:01,530 he needs surgery to save and improve his quality of life. But 2878 03:01:01,530 --> 03:01:04,470 he won't get it because the family must have a sanitary 2879 03:01:04,470 --> 03:01:07,710 stable housing condition first, their actual home literally 2880 03:01:07,710 --> 03:01:12,270 poses a risk of post op injury and infection. Her question to 2881 03:01:12,270 --> 03:01:15,150 you is what do they become? When you raise children in these 2882 03:01:15,150 --> 03:01:18,870 conditions? What can they become? So yes or no? Do Miss 2883 03:01:18,870 --> 03:01:21,090 Norcross and her family deserve to live in these conditions? 2884 03:01:21,090 --> 03:01:24,690 Because they are poor? If you've listened to it, yes or no? Do 2885 03:01:24,690 --> 03:01:27,060 they deserve to live in these conditions? Because they are 2886 03:01:27,060 --> 03:01:30,090 poor? Very well? Would you let your grandmother live in public 2887 03:01:30,090 --> 03:01:32,790 housing? You know, very Would you let your grandmother live in 2888 03:01:32,790 --> 03:01:35,490 public housing? Yes or no? You know, very well, under your 2889 03:01:35,490 --> 03:01:37,890 watch at your helm? Would you allow your grandmother to live 2890 03:01:37,890 --> 03:01:39,840 in public housing under these conditions? 2891 03:01:40,350 --> 03:01:45,780 Adam Curry: Yeah, this is a style that is only meant for 2892 03:01:45,780 --> 03:01:49,800 television. And I think Kamala Harris does it quite well, 2893 03:01:49,920 --> 03:01:54,540 without actually getting any answers. You just bash through 2894 03:01:54,540 --> 03:01:59,070 your point? And then and then tell the question to shut up 2895 03:01:59,130 --> 03:02:00,360 like I shut up yes or no. 2896 03:02:01,500 --> 03:02:03,270 John C. Dvorak: It's not one side or the other. Either. It's 2897 03:02:03,270 --> 03:02:05,190 the Republicans or the Democrats. Both they all 2898 03:02:05,190 --> 03:02:08,220 Adam Curry: do. They all do it. But it's like, why don't why 2899 03:02:08,220 --> 03:02:11,070 don't you go home to your husband, young lady, and tell 2900 03:02:11,070 --> 03:02:15,210 him that's a yes or no question. See how that works? 2901 03:02:16,890 --> 03:02:17,730 John C. Dvorak: Yes or no? 2902 03:02:18,480 --> 03:02:19,440 Adam Curry: Yes or no? 2903 03:02:19,680 --> 03:02:21,240 John C. Dvorak: Yes or No, no, no, 2904 03:02:21,269 --> 03:02:23,129 Adam Curry: go. Just say no. 2905 03:02:23,880 --> 03:02:25,650 John C. Dvorak: Well, I didn't say anything. 2906 03:02:27,390 --> 03:02:30,810 Adam Curry: That didn't let him. But I must say I'm extremely 2907 03:02:30,810 --> 03:02:36,360 excited. They will only be five short years from now. When I 2908 03:02:36,360 --> 03:02:40,440 will be able to rejoice in the fact that I was right. 2909 03:02:43,470 --> 03:02:45,750 John C. Dvorak: With the countdown has begun. We'd like 2910 03:02:45,750 --> 03:02:48,900 Unknown: surprises, don't we? Yes, we like surprises. Well 2911 03:02:48,900 --> 03:02:51,750 guess what? In a surprise announcement, NASA revealed a 2912 03:02:51,750 --> 03:02:55,860 new name for its moon program. Artemis. She is a Greek goddess 2913 03:02:55,860 --> 03:02:59,430 of the moon and twin sister of Apollo, while NASA pick the name 2914 03:02:59,430 --> 03:03:03,180 and hopes of having the first woman to land on the Moon by 2915 03:03:03,180 --> 03:03:06,270 2024. And now in order to meet that deadline that Trump 2916 03:03:06,270 --> 03:03:09,570 administration wants Congress to approve an additional $1.6 2917 03:03:09,570 --> 03:03:14,220 billion for NASA on top of its $21 billion budget for next 2918 03:03:14,220 --> 03:03:17,670 year. muxer Mark Strassman spoke with a man who's responsible for 2919 03:03:17,670 --> 03:03:19,890 making the moonshot happened. 50 years 2920 03:03:19,890 --> 03:03:23,130 ago this July, two Americans left the first footprints in 2921 03:03:23,130 --> 03:03:27,330 lunar dust. No other country has matched Apollo's moonwalkers. 2922 03:03:29,340 --> 03:03:34,170 But five have sent probes and robots, including Israel, and 2923 03:03:34,170 --> 03:03:35,730 China just this year. 2924 03:03:35,760 --> 03:03:38,520 It's not by accident that so many countries around the world 2925 03:03:38,520 --> 03:03:41,760 right now are going to the moon. And not all of them are going to 2926 03:03:41,760 --> 03:03:45,900 the moon just to collect rocks. It's a strategic imperative that 2927 03:03:45,900 --> 03:03:47,910 the United States have a presence there as well. 2928 03:03:48,330 --> 03:03:51,990 When Jim Bridenstine became NASA's administrator last year, 2929 03:03:52,140 --> 03:03:55,140 a planned moon landing was a decade away, 2930 03:03:55,350 --> 03:03:59,160 ladies and gentlemen. That's just not good enough. 2931 03:03:59,400 --> 03:04:03,660 But in March, Vice President Mike Pence lit a fire under NASA 2932 03:04:03,660 --> 03:04:04,950 and its contractors. 2933 03:04:05,130 --> 03:04:07,860 If NASA is not currently capable of landing American astronauts 2934 03:04:07,860 --> 03:04:11,580 on the moon in five years, we need to change the organization. 2935 03:04:12,690 --> 03:04:15,780 Not the mission. We've seen over and over again, administration's 2936 03:04:15,780 --> 03:04:18,990 change, and projects get cancelled. With billions of 2937 03:04:18,990 --> 03:04:21,780 dollars wasted of the taxpayer. We're going to shorten the 2938 03:04:21,780 --> 03:04:23,970 timescale. We're going to make this a reality 2939 03:04:24,210 --> 03:04:27,810 that starts by accelerating development of NASA's new mega 2940 03:04:27,810 --> 03:04:32,610 rocket called the Space Launch System or SLS on top What's it 2941 03:04:32,610 --> 03:04:37,680 NASA's new crew capsule called Orion, roughly 240,000 miles 2942 03:04:37,680 --> 03:04:41,610 from Earth. Orion eventually would dock with a planned lunar 2943 03:04:41,610 --> 03:04:46,140 orbiting space station called Gateway. But the Artemis program 2944 03:04:46,200 --> 03:04:49,620 lacks one key component. What's the most significant piece of 2945 03:04:49,620 --> 03:04:50,460 the budget increase 2946 03:04:50,520 --> 03:04:53,970 the landing capability, like lunar landers are difficult to 2947 03:04:53,970 --> 03:04:57,030 build. They take time they take money, and we don't 2948 03:04:58,500 --> 03:05:01,530 Adam Curry: what was that tin can with? Those spider legs that 2949 03:05:01,530 --> 03:05:02,460 I saw on the moon 2950 03:05:02,490 --> 03:05:06,390 Unknown: have that capability not yet, but private industry 2951 03:05:06,420 --> 03:05:11,070 wants that contract. This is Blue Moon. Last week, 2952 03:05:11,190 --> 03:05:14,820 billionaire Jeff Bezos introduced Blue Moon, his space 2953 03:05:14,820 --> 03:05:18,840 companies designed for a lunar lander. Lockheed Martin also has 2954 03:05:18,840 --> 03:05:22,650 a design five years to get to the moon. How is that not a 2955 03:05:22,650 --> 03:05:24,510 fairly intense schedule pressure. 2956 03:05:24,750 --> 03:05:27,540 If somebody says this isn't safe, ultimately they have the 2957 03:05:27,540 --> 03:05:31,530 authority to throw a red flag and say stop. It is more 2958 03:05:31,530 --> 03:05:33,900 important for us that our astronauts be safe. 2959 03:05:34,710 --> 03:05:37,770 Adam Curry: I gotta tell you, I am going to be so happy when 2960 03:05:37,770 --> 03:05:44,730 this doesn't happen. And noticeably Millennials techno 2961 03:05:44,760 --> 03:05:49,620 millennials and Zoomers Gen Z we call them Zoomers do not believe 2962 03:05:49,620 --> 03:05:53,310 in the original Moon Landing anymore. And, and and it's it's 2963 03:05:53,310 --> 03:05:56,790 not that crazy how they come up with this because they see the 2964 03:05:56,790 --> 03:05:59,550 technology they see how fast things develop. They see what is 2965 03:05:59,550 --> 03:06:02,520 possible and do not understand that something that took place 2966 03:06:02,520 --> 03:06:06,360 50 years ago cannot easily be replicated. Especially not 2967 03:06:06,480 --> 03:06:14,370 because of the cost. Maybe it's expensive. That's gonna be a 2968 03:06:14,370 --> 03:06:17,730 great CGI job. I'd probably take five years just to do it. 2969 03:06:18,900 --> 03:06:21,930 Where's that guy from Titanic anyway? James Cameron, what's he 2970 03:06:21,930 --> 03:06:22,290 doing? 2971 03:06:23,460 --> 03:06:24,780 John C. Dvorak: Probably working on it now. 2972 03:06:25,619 --> 03:06:29,099 Adam Curry: I think it's great already started. Just what I'm 2973 03:06:29,099 --> 03:06:32,039 saying. He's already he's already working. already working 2974 03:06:32,039 --> 03:06:36,329 on the sets in the green screen. Give me a break. I'm ready for 2975 03:06:36,329 --> 03:06:40,019 it. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. It's fine. 2976 03:06:40,379 --> 03:06:42,299 But I don't think so. I don't think so. 2977 03:06:42,869 --> 03:06:44,129 John C. Dvorak: We'll find out, won't we? 2978 03:06:45,000 --> 03:06:47,250 Adam Curry: Do you think we're gonna go to the moon again? 2979 03:06:48,390 --> 03:06:48,780 Yeah, 2980 03:06:49,019 --> 03:06:50,819 John C. Dvorak: well, I don't think we're gonna do half the 2981 03:06:50,819 --> 03:06:55,139 crap that they're promising. They're just a lot of talk, a 2982 03:06:55,169 --> 03:06:59,069 lot of talk and no action. So it was one thing we didn't talk 2983 03:06:59,069 --> 03:07:02,039 about what stone that kept bubbling to the surface and 2984 03:07:02,039 --> 03:07:08,759 meetings and all kinds of things with Pelosi is the impeachment? 2985 03:07:08,939 --> 03:07:10,259 Yes. Oh, gee. 2986 03:07:11,160 --> 03:07:14,100 Adam Curry: getting killed with that. 24/7 on the news media. 2987 03:07:14,100 --> 03:07:15,330 Let's talk about it here. 2988 03:07:15,810 --> 03:07:17,850 John C. Dvorak: So let's start. Let's start with the guy who's 2989 03:07:17,850 --> 03:07:20,610 the first guy who asked for impeachment right away. In fact, 2990 03:07:20,610 --> 03:07:26,220 he asked her the day he was put in office, Al Green. The man 2991 03:07:26,220 --> 03:07:30,330 with them. I've never seen such a hairy guy in my life. That guy 2992 03:07:30,330 --> 03:07:34,020 has hair under his eyes and you're just good hair, facial 2993 03:07:34,020 --> 03:07:38,460 hair. He's a hairy guy. He's hairy. So let's listen to what 2994 03:07:38,460 --> 03:07:41,880 he has to say on the Democracy Now show. We're sorry. Take him 2995 03:07:41,880 --> 03:07:42,360 serious. I'm 2996 03:07:42,360 --> 03:07:45,000 Adam Curry: sorry. By the way. That's kind of racist. When he 2997 03:07:45,000 --> 03:07:47,790 said but his hair. Yeah, he's a hairy guy. You know? 2998 03:07:48,000 --> 03:07:49,020 John C. Dvorak: It's a hairy guy. 2999 03:07:49,050 --> 03:07:50,880 Adam Curry: Yeah, that would be racist, because he's black. 3000 03:07:51,180 --> 03:07:52,800 Chimpanzee. Come on. I'm just playing 3001 03:07:52,949 --> 03:07:56,639 John C. Dvorak: guys there. I'm white guys like that. Harry, 3002 03:07:56,639 --> 03:07:59,429 that would get hairy butts. I mean, it's disgusting. 3003 03:07:59,550 --> 03:08:02,520 Unknown: So the stakes are very high. Congressmember green. 3004 03:08:02,730 --> 03:08:06,600 Right before right after you talk to us. The House Speaker 3005 03:08:06,600 --> 03:08:10,050 Nancy Pelosi is holding a meeting with the Democrats as 3006 03:08:10,050 --> 03:08:14,760 you push for her to open an inquiry into impeachment. Why 3007 03:08:14,760 --> 03:08:17,100 are you calling for this? And why have you done this for the 3008 03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:18,150 last two years? 3009 03:08:18,869 --> 03:08:22,109 Thank you for having me. Miss Goodman and Mr. Gonzalez. I'm 3010 03:08:22,109 --> 03:08:25,709 here because I love my country. And I have called for 3011 03:08:25,709 --> 03:08:30,539 impeachment. Because I love my country. Okay. 3012 03:08:30,750 --> 03:08:32,400 John C. Dvorak: All right. Well, that's pretty, pretty 3013 03:08:32,400 --> 03:08:37,290 interesting. Country. So he you must impeach? Yes. Rhyme. Yes. 3014 03:08:38,610 --> 03:08:40,680 It's a reach. You must impeach. There has got to be some 3015 03:08:40,680 --> 03:08:46,050 rhyming. I gotcha. I gotcha. Al Green on Democracy Now to now 3016 03:08:46,050 --> 03:08:47,670 here's the reasons to impeach 3017 03:08:47,760 --> 03:08:49,920 Unknown: and what do you consider to be the key 3018 03:08:49,920 --> 03:08:52,440 impeachable offenses that the President has committed? 3019 03:08:53,190 --> 03:08:56,430 The impeachable offenses are many, the Muller report gives us 3020 03:08:56,430 --> 03:09:00,270 a good deal of obstruction of justice that has been committed 3021 03:09:00,270 --> 03:09:03,660 by the President, we can act on the obstruction of justice, but 3022 03:09:03,660 --> 03:09:07,170 I also have contended and still contend that the President has 3023 03:09:07,170 --> 03:09:10,860 infused his bigotry into policy. I think this is impeachable as 3024 03:09:10,860 --> 03:09:15,540 well. I have indelibly imprinted in my brain, that baby's 3025 03:09:15,540 --> 03:09:18,600 standing at the border crying while she has being separated 3026 03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:22,770 from parents. This is not what a great country does. We cannot 3027 03:09:22,770 --> 03:09:26,160 allow a President to talk about African countries as S whole 3028 03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:29,340 countries and then engage in the process of developing an 3029 03:09:29,340 --> 03:09:32,970 immigration plan. We can't have a president who is going to say 3030 03:09:32,970 --> 03:09:35,610 that there are very fine people among the biggest racist 3031 03:09:35,640 --> 03:09:39,120 xenophobes homophobes who were in Charlottesville, where a 3032 03:09:39,120 --> 03:09:43,260 woman lost her life protesting against bigotry and do nothing 3033 03:09:43,260 --> 03:09:49,650 about it. His bigotry is worthy of his being impeached. All 3034 03:09:49,650 --> 03:09:49,950 right. 3035 03:09:50,760 --> 03:09:54,300 John C. Dvorak: I'd like to shout out to Scott Adams for 3036 03:09:54,300 --> 03:09:56,640 there he goes, Uh, mentioned the Charlottesville again, the 3037 03:09:56,640 --> 03:09:58,140 middle of Charlotte's horse. 3038 03:09:58,260 --> 03:10:02,700 Adam Curry: Of course the lie and find the find and so find 3039 03:10:02,700 --> 03:10:06,510 people lie to find people lie. Yeah. I have want to 3040 03:10:06,510 --> 03:10:08,910 congratulate you, John on something unrelated but you 3041 03:10:08,910 --> 03:10:13,980 really, you nailed it. You said that the new term for climate 3042 03:10:13,980 --> 03:10:16,110 change was climate crisis. 3043 03:10:16,680 --> 03:10:18,750 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, would climate emergency is the backup 3044 03:10:18,870 --> 03:10:19,590 and 3045 03:10:19,620 --> 03:10:22,470 Adam Curry: maybe three days later, the guardian in the UK 3046 03:10:22,470 --> 03:10:27,810 came out with their new style guide. Yeah, that's funny. I'll 3047 03:10:27,810 --> 03:10:31,110 read it actually, than I do believe this is I do believe I 3048 03:10:31,110 --> 03:10:34,140 believe this is factual. Katharine Viner, Editor in Chief 3049 03:10:34,140 --> 03:10:36,330 Guardian news and media We've recently been reviewing the 3050 03:10:36,330 --> 03:10:39,210 language we use in our coverage of the environment, and whether 3051 03:10:39,210 --> 03:10:41,850 the terms we use accurately reflect the phenomenon they 3052 03:10:41,850 --> 03:10:45,390 describe. We want to ensure that we are being scientifically 3053 03:10:45,390 --> 03:10:49,470 precise and rooted in facts. Remember this scientifically 3054 03:10:49,470 --> 03:10:52,830 precise bit, while also communicating clearly with 3055 03:10:52,830 --> 03:10:55,800 readers on this very important issue. The phrase climate 3056 03:10:55,800 --> 03:10:59,070 change, for example, sounds rather passive and gentle, when 3057 03:10:59,070 --> 03:11:02,010 what scientists are talking about is a catastrophe for you 3058 03:11:02,010 --> 03:11:07,590 monitor. Increasingly, climate science climate scientists and 3059 03:11:07,590 --> 03:11:10,890 organizations from the UN to the Met Office are changing their 3060 03:11:10,890 --> 03:11:14,940 terminology, and using stronger language to describe the 3061 03:11:14,940 --> 03:11:18,480 situation. Therefore, we would like to change the terms that we 3062 03:11:18,480 --> 03:11:24,390 use as follows. Use climate emergency crisis or break down 3063 03:11:24,450 --> 03:11:29,520 instead of climate change. Use Global heating instead of global 3064 03:11:29,520 --> 03:11:35,640 warming. us why wildlife instead of biodiversity when 3065 03:11:35,640 --> 03:11:39,780 appropriate. Use fish populations instead of fish 3066 03:11:39,780 --> 03:11:45,600 stocks, use climate science denier or climate denier instead 3067 03:11:45,600 --> 03:11:50,940 of climate skeptic. The original terms are not banned, but do 3068 03:11:50,940 --> 03:11:54,870 think twice before using them. If you think a specific term is 3069 03:11:54,870 --> 03:11:58,380 needed to help people find your story online, then please check 3070 03:11:58,380 --> 03:12:03,510 with the audience team. Hey, we need an audience team. Hi, I'm 3071 03:12:03,540 --> 03:12:07,290 Chief audience team. The updates will appear in the style guide 3072 03:12:07,290 --> 03:12:10,080 from today. Please do let me know if you have any further 3073 03:12:10,080 --> 03:12:14,850 questions. Yes. How is global heating more scientific than 3074 03:12:14,850 --> 03:12:19,110 global warming? Or how scientifically accurate is 3075 03:12:19,140 --> 03:12:23,760 emergency crisis or breakdown versus change? Is that 3076 03:12:23,760 --> 03:12:28,890 scientific or is that linguistic? I found this to be 3077 03:12:28,890 --> 03:12:32,250 points. I found this to be a fabulous and especially because 3078 03:12:32,250 --> 03:12:34,920 you nailed it. You call it You nailed it. 3079 03:12:34,949 --> 03:12:37,439 John C. Dvorak: Well, I caught it early as what I did, which is 3080 03:12:37,439 --> 03:12:40,439 what we do on this show we catch things as early as we can is 3081 03:12:40,439 --> 03:12:43,259 always a shocker to me when something sneaks by 3082 03:12:44,039 --> 03:12:47,489 Adam Curry: which is let's leave on this high note. Okay, leave 3083 03:12:47,489 --> 03:12:49,589 on that. Take the trophy and go home. 3084 03:12:50,490 --> 03:12:53,070 John C. Dvorak: I'm out here. We have a lot of clips for the 3085 03:12:53,070 --> 03:12:55,140 Sunday show and we will be very interesting. 3086 03:12:55,410 --> 03:12:57,150 Adam Curry: Looking forward to it. Looking forward to seeing 3087 03:12:57,150 --> 03:13:00,270 all of you there. And of course Sunday show take this 3088 03:13:00,270 --> 03:13:01,920 John C. Dvorak: show to the bank by the way because of that 3089 03:13:01,920 --> 03:13:05,550 vaccination stuff that you captured from RFK Jr. 3090 03:13:05,610 --> 03:13:08,460 Adam Curry: Oh, thanks. Well, yes, well bank it will bank it 3091 03:13:08,460 --> 03:13:13,290 for sure. And thank you all for the love for the support and for 3092 03:13:13,290 --> 03:13:15,960 participating in the value for value network. You can always do 3093 03:13:15,960 --> 03:13:22,200 that at divorce act.org/and. A special thanks to Jesse Coyne 3094 03:13:22,200 --> 03:13:28,320 Nelson. Braxton Fitzgerald and Sir seat sitter for the end of 3095 03:13:28,320 --> 03:13:32,880 show mix is coming to you from the frontier of Austin, Texas 3096 03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:35,970 capital the drone star states we are in FEMA Region number six in 3097 03:13:35,970 --> 03:13:37,920 the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 3098 03:13:38,010 --> 03:13:41,820 John C. Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where 3099 03:13:41,820 --> 03:13:43,710 it's still cold. I'm Jhansi Dvorak 3100 03:13:43,710 --> 03:13:46,020 Adam Curry: we return on Sunday right here on no agenda with 3101 03:13:46,020 --> 03:13:49,920 another episode again remember us at the vortec.org/a until 3102 03:13:49,920 --> 03:13:55,530 Sunday, I adios mofos and such. 3103 03:14:06,030 --> 03:14:09,960 Unknown: New research shows beer could see decrease supply all 3104 03:14:09,960 --> 03:14:11,070 due to climate change. 3105 03:14:12,300 --> 03:14:15,900 Now a new study shows a rise in temperature due to climate 3106 03:14:15,900 --> 03:14:18,360 change is linked to higher rates of suicide. 3107 03:14:19,740 --> 03:14:23,490 We hear about the Taliban and global warming mostly as two 3108 03:14:23,490 --> 03:14:25,590 separate stories, but there is a link, 3109 03:14:25,949 --> 03:14:29,969 Canada is warming up twice as fast as the rest of the world. 3110 03:14:30,150 --> 03:14:34,080 As the Arab Spring uprisings took hold across the Middle East 3111 03:14:34,080 --> 03:14:37,230 and North Africa. Millions of people fled their homes, 3112 03:14:37,290 --> 03:14:40,650 researchers claimed to have identified evidence of a causal 3113 03:14:40,650 --> 03:14:44,130 link between those conflicts and changes to the climate 3114 03:14:44,310 --> 03:14:48,300 in the Outer Hebrides where only the toughest sheep could survive 3115 03:14:48,300 --> 03:14:52,050 the inclement winters something strange has been going on why 3116 03:14:52,050 --> 03:14:56,430 have some killed as wild so a sheep been getting smaller. It's 3117 03:14:56,460 --> 03:14:57,720 down to climate change, 3118 03:14:57,869 --> 03:15:01,529 calling out frequent fliers and Nervous fires and everyone in 3119 03:15:01,529 --> 03:15:05,249 between climate change could make air travel up here. 3120 03:15:05,550 --> 03:15:08,490 His trip is to highlight the current climate change crisis. 3121 03:15:08,550 --> 03:15:13,620 One last point of that crisis Kivalina it's sinking. This is 3122 03:15:13,650 --> 03:15:17,520 83 miles away from the Arctic circle which is melting out of 3123 03:15:17,520 --> 03:15:18,900 sinking this little tale. 3124 03:15:19,350 --> 03:15:22,440 And experts have some bad news this season. If you're one of 3125 03:15:22,440 --> 03:15:25,590 the 10s of millions of Americans with allergies, you may have to 3126 03:15:25,590 --> 03:15:28,470 cope with your symptoms longer because of climate change. 3127 03:15:29,039 --> 03:15:31,649 Experts say that's because there's been an increase in 3128 03:15:31,649 --> 03:15:35,399 rodent populations and climate change is partially to blame. 3129 03:15:35,880 --> 03:15:39,300 A new study shows polar bears in the Arctic are shedding pounds 3130 03:15:39,570 --> 03:15:42,600 during the time that they should be beefing up. Scientists blame 3131 03:15:42,600 --> 03:15:46,440 climate change for shrinking the ice that serves as a bears 3132 03:15:46,440 --> 03:15:47,190 hunting grounds. 3133 03:15:56,850 --> 03:16:01,680 Clinton Foundation needs and touching snitch never laid a 3134 03:16:01,710 --> 03:16:08,280 hand on my Boyce garage Express never put a mark on that term 3135 03:16:08,280 --> 03:16:12,390 stress never had a slicer can never help fun no dossier. 3136 03:16:26,280 --> 03:16:30,360 We live in a fake news nation's nature lies on every station 3137 03:16:30,750 --> 03:16:34,200 facts that no one's mentioned dollar bills has been misplaced 3138 03:16:34,200 --> 03:16:36,870 and fighting a nation that's better than the rest of the 3139 03:16:37,260 --> 03:16:42,030 country can take chips chipping up the mess the societies need 3140 03:16:42,030 --> 03:16:57,630 to depress tracks daddy Obama 3141 03:17:02,520 --> 03:17:23,880 I expect to be arrested for not too many days money money shop 3142 03:17:41,160 --> 03:17:48,540 I'll leave in a few moments. But I'll be back he's got a burning 3143 03:17:48,540 --> 03:17:50,190 in his bubble we're gonna find 3144 03:17:54,720 --> 03:17:58,380 wicked woman out there and queens that hatched him from 3145 03:17:58,380 --> 03:18:02,250 between her legs with feathers on him coming out of his mom's 3146 03:18:02,250 --> 03:18:06,240 vagina. That's why he's a cookie grabber. He keeps reaching back 3147 03:18:06,240 --> 03:18:09,870 trying to grab hook coochie as he was hatched out a hook Bucha 3148 03:18:10,110 --> 03:18:14,820 this arm Chad or Ranga Tang this duck she named and Donald 3149 03:18:14,910 --> 03:18:18,420 because he's not older and he's a coochie grabber because he 3150 03:18:18,420 --> 03:18:22,290 kept trying to crawl back up in his Mama's culture and my wife 3151 03:18:22,890 --> 03:18:27,480 ever greeted me with a fist I give her a left hook was this 3152 03:18:27,480 --> 03:18:48,930 this is what Michelle given everybody knew this are you on 3153 03:18:52,170 --> 03:19:55,020 track why you? But I will be back. Get out and MSNBC fires 3154 03:19:55,230 --> 03:20:03,150 that niche. That rat shop I'll see you later. I'll see you next 3155 03:20:03,150 --> 03:20:03,690 week. 3156 03:20:11,370 --> 03:20:15,570 MoPhO boruch.org/and A. 3157 03:20:16,410 --> 03:20:20,760 All of my sexual fantasies involve handcuffs. Oh