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John C. Dvorak: I think this is
an insult to my manhood.

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Announcer: Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: July 5 2020 This is
your award winning keep on

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nation media assassination
episode 1267.

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Announcer: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Second in
broadcasting live from

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opportunity's own 33 Here in the
frontier of Austin, Texas

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Capitol have the drone Star
State in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam curry

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John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where I

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saw the best fireworks display
in my life. And it was done by

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the public. I'm John C Dvorak

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Announcer: Crackpot and
Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: Typically, Fourth of
July, if I recall correctly in

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San Francisco is a big dud. It's
a big loser because of the low

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hanging cloud and you can't see
it. And it's just no good. And

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that

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John C. Dvorak: was eliminated.
Yeah, go. Yep, yep, yep. Yep.

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Except for one thing. Every 20
years or so the fog never shows

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up.

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Adam Curry: And this was the
year huh?

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John C. Dvorak: This was the
year you look at it was clear.

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It would have been a great
fireworks display. But idiots

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cancelled it on the one day
where you could actually see

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Adam Curry: the one the one time
in 20 years.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So there
was no fireworks display because

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they're all cowering in place.
Yeah. And meanwhile, the town of

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Richmond who our guests had kind
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going on. There must have been
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fireworks. And it was it was
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was constant BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM
BUM BUM BUM BUM. It looked like

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a finale like a finale of a
regular fireworks show. Only it

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was for three and a half hours.
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nonstop bombs. And I guess la
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there's a there's a there's a
video going around of some

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helicopter flying over LA that
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Adam Curry: zone. And we had a
lot of a lot of personal

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fireworks. A lot of booms going
off for most and to me this is

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very reminiscent of Amsterdam
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Netherlands where you can't do
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just nothing it's everything is
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anything fun you can't have but
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allowed to go crazy. And so they
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before up until sometimes two
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all day long as if you live and
it's traumatising for some

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people, then now you know this
dogs. Yeah, some guy that was

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outside on the deck this
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here, right? Well, hello, then
yeah, his dog had run on jumped

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his car and crossed the
greenbelt and feel kind of bad

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for it was only eight months old
German Shepherd. So like, I

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don't know if that one's gonna
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completely uneventful here in
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demure and sad.

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Why? Oh, there wasn't a

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John C. Dvorak: reason a more
sad than normal.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it
wasn't a great Fourth of July.

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You know, it was just it wasn't
it wasn't a lot of fun. I mean,

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certainly not compared to the
evening before. When we went to

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our cocktail party here in
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John C. Dvorak: it was a photo.
I put your photo in the

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newsletter. Yes, there you were.

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Adam Curry: Did you not like my
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John C. Dvorak: Well, I liked it
had been it was it was it looked

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like kind of if there was any
such thing is a full bodied mug

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shot. That's kind of what it
looked like. Okay, you wanted an

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arm that was missing was like
the scale behind you how hot and

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all you were you didn't want

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Adam Curry: an action. You
wanted an action shot or

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something? I

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Unknown: wasn't gonna I wanted
an action shot. I

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Adam Curry: wasn't going to put
my I'm not going to. Okay, let

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me tell you what's going on.
Because this was quite an

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interesting experience. So to
review, we had received an

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invitation. Very nice couple.
We're good friends with them.

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Now they happen to live in
Tarrytown here in Austin that

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now they they have about 100
employees. They've got I think

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six different locations for
their business throughout Austin

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and I believe maybe Houston. So
it's always interesting to find

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out how they've been doing,
especially with a lot of

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employees and you know,
limitations, etc. So we're

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looking forward to seeing them.
But we were told, hey, you know,

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if you come on Friday, then
please, when you pull up to the

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house Park, down by the garage
and then walk on the path that

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is there kind of on built on a
hill. It's multimillion dollar

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home built on a bit of a hill so
that you're kind of down below

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and please walk on the path to
the left all the way around to

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the backyard. And as I think I'd
reported previously, the male of

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the two and I had conversed
privately and he said Man, we're

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full on hazmat suit here. So we
were ready. We had our masks on

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I had my My world's best dad cup
on a string around my neck as

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promised. And so we walk up and
they're and they're out there in

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the back. And it's just, it's
just the four of us. And they're

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and they have one side of a
picnic table. And there's

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plastic glasses, and we're on
the other side and we didn't,

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you know, hug or shake hands or
anything. But they said, Oh, you

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don't need the mask and take the
mask off now, and they weren't

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wearing masks. Now. July 3, in
Austin, Texas. At 8pm It's about

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93 degrees. And as the sun
starts to go down, the

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mosquitoes come out who love my
keeper. She is so sweet. So, um,

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I have my no agenda, Nick Gator.
I have that around my neck

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still. And so there's just,
there's just sweat dripping down

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my face. I'd look at him and
he's his sweat dripping dripping

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down. And, you know, finally, an
emptiness getting bitten by

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mosquitoes. It's like it's what?
It's not a great vibe. And and

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then she's complaining like, Oh,
she was his nose, okay, and he

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said, I vote. We go inside. I'm
like, oh, okay, can I vote to

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quite understand what was
happening? Long story short.

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This whole charade was because
of the neighbourhood. The

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neighbourhood, which is called
Tarrytown, I affectionately call

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it Karen town. The neighbours
are consistently monitoring

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everybody to make sure that you
don't have people in your house

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to make sure that everyone who
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socially distance that they have
met. This was because of the

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neighbourhood, not them. The
neighbourhood. We went indoors,

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like it was nice and cool. You
know, we drank out of real

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glasses, we were chatting, we
had a great evening, until we

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had to leave. And then I've been
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come and gone through the front
door. But now we were taken

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downstairs through the basement
area, the mudroom to leave via

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the garage, so no one would see
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the house. That's what this was
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Unknown: That's pathetic. But
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Adam Curry: man, there's stuff
going on there. Apparently,

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there were a couple of like 14
year old girls or something,

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they've done some video. And
they were singing rap songs and

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you know, 1414 year old white
girls, they they know all the

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lyrics and they got all the they
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They can mimic it completely.
This is what tick tock is all

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about. But of course, every
every other five songs in hip

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hop has the N word in there. And
so, you know, kids are now

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supposed to sing along when the
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They just don't They don't say
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with the lyrics right after
that. Except one of them did the

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full N word in the background.
And this went viral. And one of

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these girls dad is a
neurosurgeon at UT fired. Fire.

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The girl who said that boarding
school. This is crazy.

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Absolutely. In sane.

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Boarding School, boarding
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What did you say boarding school
for you. Now, obviously she made

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a mistake. And but you
understand kind of how these

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things happen. And I'm not
trying to make it right. But he

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is a neuros was a neurosurgeon
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So, holy crap. That

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John C. Dvorak: sounds like
wrongful termination if he asked

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me.

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Adam Curry: Well, I'm not. I
don't know the the explicit

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details. What they did say to
me, our friends is that they had

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gotten a lot of pressure from
their employees to say something

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to post something black lives
matter. And they didn't do it.

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They stood up to the employee
said no, no, no. Here's all the

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things we do because it's a very
social oriented company in

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general, but said no, we're just
not going to participate in that

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we're trying to keep our heads
above water here, down a

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lockdown for three months. So I
thought that was pretty brave

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and they weathered through the
storm. They did not have anyone

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quit in a huff or anything.
Somehow they managed to manage

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to communicate what they were
and weren't going to do so and

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that and you need more of that.
But holy crap in your own home,

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that you have to be afraid of
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neighbours will think on you,
man. That's tough. Wow. So so

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the visit did not disappoint. In
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pretty good. I thought it was
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John C. Dvorak: but a creepy
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Adam Curry: Yeah, but this may
be the same in many areas, John

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I mean you and I, here it is. We
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You know. So what do we know? We
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on in the real world except the
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John C. Dvorak: Well, it's not
going on in my neighbourhood, I

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Adam Curry: Yeah, well hopefully
not here either as far as I can

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tell, but it was a it was a real
that was a surprising moment. I

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thought it was I thought they
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out. That wasn't it at all. It's
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John C. Dvorak: But we go inside
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Adam Curry: it was a great once
we were inside it was a great

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evening it was we had a really
good time was fantastic. And of

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course when we got home, then
spent spent a little bit

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watching the President's
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which I thought was quite
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jingle it's nothing like
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most wonderful speech of the
year completely divisive and

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putting people on notice. But I
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before everything started, there
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John C. Dvorak: No, I didn't see
the thing at all.

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Adam Curry: Ah, so as watching
the PBS live stream on YouTube.

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No one was really caring
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streaming and the event started
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it had to have been prepackaged.
But it was Air Force One doing a

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fly over Mount Rushmore. But
John, this was a five minute Top

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Gun Danger Zone type video. I
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went holy crap. Air Force One
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does it does like a bank. And
then Thunderstruck ACDC starts

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playing goes into Guns and Roses
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yeah. And I just couldn't help
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in the world is like and hope
hopefully some girls like that

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was just a bad ass badass
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John C. Dvorak: I just they did
not have a they didn't networks

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refuse to play any of it would
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anyone. Considering what else
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nil. I mean, the only thing I
think it ever got played by one

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of the network's was John
Legend, you know, fourth.

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Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. But
that that just, I just really

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loved it. And I simultaneously I
understood how many people

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outside of the United States and
certainly inside the United

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States would look at that and
would choke on their own vomit,

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which is the part that saddened
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that this bravado is what some
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hate.

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John C. Dvorak: And I took the
training to hate his odour

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control. That's the thing. clips
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Adam Curry: good. I do have what
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thing the President said from
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interested. Sure. Well, wait,
first of all, I have a I have

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some meat. No. So it's like
Trump. Yes. Here we go. I think

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this is what hit home. I think
this is what his base likes. And

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the speech was total totally
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some people on notice. Just it
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Unknown: schools, our newsrooms,
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there is a new far left fascism
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allegiance. If you do not speak
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rituals, recite its mantras and
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you will be censored, banished,
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punished. It's not gonna happen
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doing, they would destroy the
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lifted humanity to new heights
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progress to make this possible,
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every statue, symbol and memory
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Adam Curry: It's too bad. I've
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Maybe the troll room can
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the person yells but the
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The only ad lib I could catch.

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enforcement to protect our
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and prosecute offenders to the
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Adam Curry: law of the law.
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John C. Dvorak: Well, if you
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Adam Curry: me get a dance.

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John C. Dvorak: It just was all
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about that speech was negative.
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Adam Curry: had a thought about
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and I read the AP and both of
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a lot of words. And words like
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absolutely fiery. No, a rally?
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ban on on Magga hats and Maga
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that at the times and AP it's a
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write up the template, or they
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which includes all that shit.
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then you have an intern who
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masks. That kind of stuff. So it
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was no reporting of what he said
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Unknown: Trump likes a big
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think, a more divisive speech
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attack the left wing mobs trying
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Adam Curry: I think it does
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John C. Dvorak: Let me let me
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please. Headlines. We've got to
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come together to take on Trump.
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right to top. And where's it
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course. Geez, in the fourth of
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radical left and media
Washington Post how Trump not

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Biden has helped. Oh, this was
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headline here. Let's see.
Richard man, a former GW Bush

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appointee supporting Biden have
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the observer view on Joe Biden's
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July fourth remarks, he, you
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remarks, I do want to play this
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right, this is from the PBS
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kind of recently inflated. The
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Adam Curry: Biden Fourth of July
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
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Adam Curry: Let's play a

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tweeted his Fourth of July
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recent and historic protests.
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the country has not yet lived up
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John C. Dvorak: it's been a
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two parts of our character. The
idea that all men and women all

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people are created equal. And
the racism has torn us apart.

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Adam Curry: Wait, wait a minute.
Wait a minute. The PBS PBS just

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presented that as something Joe
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John C. Dvorak: Too bad you
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thing. And this is the truth. I
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Adam Curry: five, five, that's a
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John C. Dvorak: It's a lot of
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at five DB and still sounds like
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this a played this like I guess
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Adam Curry: This is
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John C. Dvorak: and so they got
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Biden says in that clip, if you
come back to it telling me what

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it is. You tell me what it is. I
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He mumbles something I have no
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room can get this one.

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Adam Curry: Well, only the
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bit of the outro intent by our
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Unknown: president said the
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its founding ideal. American
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Adam Curry: no. American history
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not fact fat fair.

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Adam Curry: it's been a constant
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of our character.

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I think it's I think he's saying
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it's been a confidence his I
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after you said fair and it
sounds like fish to try American

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history is no it's been a
constant push and pull between

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fairy tale about that could be
fairy tale, John, that's the

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latest from the troll room
American. Yet Listen, listen.

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Adam Curry: America's history is
not a fair tap. That could be

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Could be anyway. It's horrible.
It's not good for Joe Biden. It

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looks really bad for PBS
announcing like he made Oh, he

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made some great statement and
then you roll out an ad because

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the guy clearly is not capable
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I don't know if these are good
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Could you understand that
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John C. Dvorak: It's no, no,
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Adam Curry: there was Joe Joe
Biden's health.

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John C. Dvorak: Played again.
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Adam Curry: I'd already taken it
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Here's the strategy one more
time. Or you can leave

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John C. Dvorak: Joe Biden's hell
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Adam Curry: choose this one. I
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hard if you don't know exactly
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think I don't think it picks up
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Unknown: No, no,

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Adam Curry: no, it's not just
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John C. Dvorak: they play so
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it's like, it just was a head
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lost it. They've lost the plot.

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Adam Curry: I was reading Mata
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Now he has this he has a whole
that really a good article, just

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condemning everybody in anything
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happy message to the world. And
he said, we are witnessing an

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obscene malfunction of the elite
messaging system. And I think

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that a spy I think that's really
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talking about how the certainly
the older politicians, they're

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used to doing an interview with
the times it's all everyone's

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all, buddy, buddy, do a post. Do
something for CBS, maybe do 60

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minutes. Now follow? Okay, we'll
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message has been conveyed. But
that is broke. This is a good

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example. I think this was Nancy
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unrelated to the Fourth of July,
of course, oh, it's about the

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Talat bond being paid to by
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soldiers. And

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John C. Dvorak: that was trying
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Adam Curry: So lame what they're
trying to do here, intelligence

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has come out and said, now it's
unverified. That doesn't go up

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to the level of President. So
the mainstream media and his

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political opponents are making
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doesn't read his presidential
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uninterested. People don't even
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important information because he
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on and on. And Pelosi really
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John C. Dvorak: What are you
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Unknown: this morning, but
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is the first responsibility of
intelligence. And that there

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would be this idea that there
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paid by the Russians to the
Taliban is something that was so

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necessary to be pursued. Why
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president because he doesn't
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's exactly
why Miss Pelosi, that's exactly

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yeah, he doesn't like bad news.
So people don't give him the bad

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news on Russia. That's how it
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doesn't like to get bad news on
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they taken action these months
later? So when we hear from them

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today, hopefully they will.
There'll be a level of

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participation that knows the
facts and that we will Have a

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gang of eight that is open to
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John C. Dvorak: himself keeps
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has said nothing about Vladimir
Putin or Russia or possible

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sanctions if the President even
learns more about it just hoax

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Unknown: when his hoax he uses a
hoax because of he'll say this

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is a hoax and it's a hoax. That
they are 24/7 trying to disrupt

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our election as they did in
2016. He says Coronavirus is a

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hoax. The fact is the President
himself is a hoax

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John C. Dvorak: your plate play
this play this clip. This is the

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clip Afghanistan makes sense
report PBS

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Unknown: Washington's envoy to
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for the US Taliban peace deal
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Russia may have paid bounties to
Afghan militants for killing

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American and NATO soldiers. US
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Khalilzad focused on the
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today, he was wrapping up a week
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in Qatar, where Taliban
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late February, the US signed a
peace deal with the Taliban that

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encountered new political
opposition and doubts about

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whether the Taliban can be
trusted since news of the

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intelligence about the Russian
bounties became public. Oh,

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Adam Curry: well, that comes
that completely confirms what we

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John C. Dvorak: about. This
whole thing is just it's clear

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the deal. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: to ruin the deal and
have more war. That's that's

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that's why Bill Kristol is
involved with the Lincoln

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project. Those are war mongers.
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time as their ad and Edward. I
mean, this is coordinated. It's

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so obvious, I

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John C. Dvorak: think. And it
shows up in his PBS report when

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PBS is all in because they, and
the way he says it, as matter of

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fact, he says at the very end,
and no, he says intelligence

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reports. What intelligence
reports this is a rumour that

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was printed in the New York
Times. It has nothing to do with

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anything. It's all to queer the
deal, because this Taliban thing

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was going to end we're gonna get
out of Afghanistan. There goes

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to Poppy money, all these other
things happen. It's just like,

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this is such an obvious scam.
That is ridiculous. And you're

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right about the rip this idiotic
Lincoln project. Yeah. Yeah,

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that was just looking at thing
called Republican voters against

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Trump. It's a it's a feed. You
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And there's a bunch of these
hacks on there. I'm Joe Schmo.

443
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And I hate Donald Trump. I used
to be a Republican, but I don't

444
00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:40,380
like him anymore. And especially
what he did to John McCain. And

445
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:42,420
they're all a bunch of guys
wearing a McCain shirt which

446
00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:48,210
McCain has been dead. I mean,
it's it's this old is old wing

447
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,390
of the Republican Party. It was
the John McCain way in which

448
00:27:51,390 --> 00:27:52,890
there's the war monger party

449
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:57,330
Adam Curry: already. Yes, he's a
total war monger. And the ones

450
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,580
John C. Dvorak: who want more
war vote out Trump.

451
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. They
just that's exactly what we

452
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thought it was. And now they're
just confirming it. That's even

453
00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:10,650
better. So insane. These people.
I really want to hear you. You

454
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had said you had some clips
about schooling and all and the

455
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and all that, but maybe we'll
just touch on Layne Maxwell for

456
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a moment.

457
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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I didn't
get any clips about this. But I

458
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figured you might

459
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Adam Curry: have well, of
course, I have a couple things

460
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that are relevant. But just some
thoughts in general. There's a

461
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lot there's a lot of things
going on. And you know, this is

462
00:28:36,150 --> 00:28:40,320
like queue level stuff. Of
course. It's so easy to see all

463
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,930
these dots that you can pull
together. I'll just give you a

464
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couple of headlines that I've
seen today. So on the day that

465
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they quote unquote arrest ghee
Lane Maxwell

466
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John C. Dvorak: was casually
sitting in a place up in Vermont

467
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or New Hampshire signs in the
woods. Thank

468
00:28:56,490 --> 00:28:59,070
Adam Curry: you. When you are on
actually there. She's at home

469
00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:03,420
when you are on a 150 acre
property with a beautiful home.

470
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You are not hiding out. It's
called a safe house. That's

471
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obvious to me. That's a safe
house. Why else would she be

472
00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:16,650
there? And she bought it through
some anonymous foundation or

473
00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:20,100
something so we don't even know
if it's really hers. Safe House

474
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,590
I'm just gonna call it a safe
house. Now do I know like that I

475
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:25,860
like that I'm in. I mean, it's
not like they didn't know where

476
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:29,190
she was give me a break and that
she's New Hampshire like that.

477
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:32,610
That was her brilliant plan to
hide out is New Hampshire now.

478
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So that happens on the same day
she's arrested. One of the

479
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judges orders. The EPS, one of
Epstein's accusers through the

480
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lawyer to destroy all files they
have, because they were acquired

481
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,530
improperly. So now there's
judge's orders to destroy. I

482
00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:59,100
don't know if it's evidence but
files it's just irritating

483
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:03,240
things. Then we get all these
little little like nudges in the

484
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,340
media and I'm just looking at
purely from a very

485
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:10,470
conspiratorial viewpoint.
Germany is investigating now

486
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suddenly 30,000 potential
suspects in this huge paedophile

487
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,970
probe as they put it. I think
that's a very funny headline.

488
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:24,450
Deutsche Avella by the way.
30,000 people, not just in

489
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Germany, then you have brother.
Well, then you have this this

490
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,850
was just came out in the British
papers, pictures of Delaine

491
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Maxwell, with Kevin Spacey
sitting on the royal thrones.

492
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And then they this is that is a
shoe that's like taking a dump

493
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on the President's desk in the
Oval Office. You do not sit as a

494
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commoner you do not certainly
not a Yankee. You don't sit on

495
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the throne of the British Royal
so that comes out now all of a

496
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:02,430
sudden

497
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John C. Dvorak: but what's in
debt really just a movie set? I

498
00:31:06,569 --> 00:31:07,139
don't know.

499
00:31:08,730 --> 00:31:10,980
Adam Curry: That isn't that I
didn't read that. Is that was

500
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that was this been debunked? As
as soon as

501
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:15,450
John C. Dvorak: as soon because
I saw Kevin I've saw Kevin

502
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Spacey pictures before and
there's a number of movie sets

503
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,150
that have the sure sure oil
throne.

504
00:31:21,210 --> 00:31:23,700
Adam Curry: I'm glad that you
are defending Kevin Spacey and

505
00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:34,980
now someone needs to very happy.
Man 1000s 1000s of sealed

506
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:39,270
indictments are coming in
Dershowitz, Alan Dershowitz. He

507
00:31:39,270 --> 00:31:43,170
pops out of nowhere with this
article to defend gelei Maxwell

508
00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:46,560
saying that, you know, no, of
course he's a constitutional

509
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,670
lawyer. We respect him. Everyone
is innocent until the until

510
00:31:50,670 --> 00:31:53,340
proven guilty, although you
know, Dershowitz. That's not

511
00:31:53,340 --> 00:31:57,660
exactly how it works. I should
have had this one ready before?

512
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,770
We know exactly that, as John
Brennan says the former chief

513
00:32:01,770 --> 00:32:05,640
for the CIA people are innocent
until alleged to be involved in

514
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,570
Unknown: some type of criminal
activity.

515
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:10,020
Adam Curry: So I don't know
Dersch. You may be. So he's out

516
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:14,250
there defending himself really,
because of this Jennifer Griff

517
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:19,860
Ray, then he has, I think solid
documentation that shows that

518
00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:24,210
what she claimed is impossible
because he was not. It was he

519
00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:27,750
was in a different part of the
world on that day, which doesn't

520
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:32,640
mean she didn't maybe have her
timeline wrong. But I don't

521
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,660
know. It's just, it's irksome to
hear Dershowitz talking, no one

522
00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:40,380
asked him for his opinion. Why
is he inserting himself in this

523
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:47,550
and he was on the BBC. And here
is the first of these two clips.

524
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,750
And you can kind of hear I don't
think I've heard Dershowitz

525
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:56,280
sound like this with just a
little bit of just a tinge of I

526
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,900
think fear, I think, and he
pronounces but you have Lord the

527
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:04,290
Rothschild. You know, his wife
is Evelyn de Rothschild, right?

528
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:09,450
No, no, no, that's his name.
Lord Evelyn de Rothschild. Oh,

529
00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:12,300
okay. Right. Listen to how he
pronounces it.

530
00:33:12,570 --> 00:33:16,020
Unknown: I was introduced to her
by the Lord evil in and the lady

531
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Rothschild

532
00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:21,840
Adam Curry: evil evil in Am I
missing some in Berlin

533
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,430
John C. Dvorak: Delaney
Rothschild,

534
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,270
Adam Curry: Lord of its I think
it's Lord Evelyn and the lady

535
00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:30,720
Rothschild his the guy's first
name is Evelyn but he says evil

536
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,220
in I don't know if that if
that's his real name, or if just

537
00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:38,970
you know, that's just how they
call it. A behind the dark

538
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:39,960
curtain. I don't know.

539
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:43,350
Unknown: I was introduced to her
by the Lord evil in and the lady

540
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:48,030
Rothschild. I met her several
times, not doesn't several times

541
00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:50,280
in the presence of very
prominent people, Hillary

542
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Clinton and Bill Clinton, Nobel
Prize winning scientists, the

543
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,170
presidents of major
universities.

544
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,140
Adam Curry: I never I like how
this somehow means that these

545
00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:02,310
are all good people.

546
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,700
John C. Dvorak: Marvin Minsky,
you mentioned him.

547
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:09,870
Adam Curry: Somehow. He said,
Paul did clearly we had all

548
00:34:09,870 --> 00:34:12,270
these fab fabulous people here
that she couldn't be, it

549
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:15,510
couldn't be wrong. We have the
Rothschilds, we have Nobel

550
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:18,300
laureates, we have the Clintons,
how could there be anything

551
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:19,620
suspicious happening here?

552
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,760
Unknown: I met her several
times, not dozen several times

553
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,010
in the presence of very
prominent people, Hillary

554
00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:30,450
Clinton and Bill Clinton, Nobel
Prize winning scientists, the

555
00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:35,280
presidents of major
universities, I never ever saw

556
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,570
her engaging in any kind of
inappropriate behaviour. My wife

557
00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:43,560
and I met her my daughter,
metta. We never saw any

558
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,410
inappropriate behaviour. In
fact, I went and volunteered to

559
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:50,520
the US Attorney's office I went
in on my own and to the DHS

560
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,670
office more than a couple of
years ago, and said, I want to

561
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:57,270
tell you everything I know about
everybody involved in this and I

562
00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:01,890
did and I will continue to do
so. Oh, but I saw nothing

563
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,200
inappropriate on her behalf at

564
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,880
Adam Curry: all. Sounds just
like a regular old party with a

565
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,870
bunch of elites. And yeah, yeah,
we'll be deal nothing at all.

566
00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:17,700
Now, this is what I thought it
was interesting is he is very

567
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:21,300
quick to offer his opinion, his
legal opinion, which I feel is

568
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,170
still by me is respected by me
as is just as a constitutional

569
00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:29,940
colleague. But why does he have
to go and you know, really say

570
00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:32,190
that she's safe. This may

571
00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:34,770
Unknown: be the beginning. This
may be one indictment, it may be

572
00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:37,560
followed by subsequent
indictments, because this

573
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,010
indictment ends in 1997. And I
think the government will have

574
00:35:41,010 --> 00:35:44,790
some problems with the statute
of limitations and also with the

575
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:49,380
plea bargain. That gives her
immunity if they accused her of

576
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,560
any actions that took place
after the plea bargain. That

577
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,410
would give them a strong case.
So I suspect that we will be

578
00:35:55,410 --> 00:35:59,070
hearing from some of these
witnesses who lacked credibility

579
00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:00,900
and who have long been lying.

580
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:09,900
Adam Curry: Lying. Lying, no
credibility. I feel really bad

581
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:14,340
for him. Wow. Because you look,
I don't know if this thing works

582
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:17,880
even anymore. But he probably
saw some things

583
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,520
John C. Dvorak: to say is what
is he's got a tip and a ringer.

584
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:24,780
Adam Curry: That's exactly what
it is. tinting the ringer. That

585
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:30,030
forever was a good a good
analogy for it. This is it. My

586
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:34,980
goodness. I think I want to go
through some of the stuff you

587
00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:38,010
were talking about. I have some
alternative look at what's

588
00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:41,130
happening with Coronavirus but I
will do that in a little bit. I

589
00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:44,640
think what I am seeing
everywhere

590
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,380
John C. Dvorak: get the
Coronavirus stuff out of the way

591
00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:48,180
because that's really front and
centre really

592
00:36:48,210 --> 00:36:51,030
Adam Curry: because just I got
the idea that people will tired

593
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:52,260
of hearing it front and centre.

594
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,050
John C. Dvorak: Okay, then we'll
move it back just a little bit.

595
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,660
Make it second row. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I

596
00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:01,350
Adam Curry: don't look. Here's
what I'll say about Coronavirus

597
00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:04,770
before we get to the real
segment. Even during the Blitz

598
00:37:05,010 --> 00:37:08,400
of World War Two when the
Germans were bombing the Brits,

599
00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:11,760
bombing London bombing and they
were for three weeks, three

600
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,130
weeks, only not three months,
three weeks. They were in the

601
00:37:14,130 --> 00:37:17,910
subways in the Underground's in
the tunnels. And even though the

602
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:21,180
bombing continued they came out
and start to win just went back

603
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:24,900
to life. And that is what will
happen with us too. People

604
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,510
aren't not having an even
California John from what I

605
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:30,480
understand people just ignoring
the rules now.

606
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:34,500
John C. Dvorak: It's gotten to
the point of scofflaw is King

607
00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:39,990
Yeah, okay. So we had the
fireworks things we talked about

608
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:42,300
that and they were all over the
place and it was just because

609
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,750
their CDs when doing when they
had their opportunity right NEW

610
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:47,940
NEW NEW you don't want to do
that don't when people come out

611
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,960
and now they're showing a whole
specials in San Jose especially

612
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,660
where they're opening reopening
at these little restaurants and

613
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:58,080
they're ignoring everything and
they reporters go down there and

614
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,580
they got their cameras and light
lit the Karen's Yeah, reportage

615
00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:04,800
Karen Yes, they go in there
Look, you guys aren't

616
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:08,310
shepherding Oh yes. Well Oh, and
they certainly guys scrambling

617
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:11,640
around to get back back back
back. The drainage fix things

618
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,940
where the reporters are filming
and then they apparently go back

619
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:18,090
back to partying. Yes.

620
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,000
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's exactly
yes. Exactly. They go back to

621
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,900
partying okay, we'll we'll go
through some of the some of the

622
00:38:27,930 --> 00:38:30,210
current thinking and stuff we
should be looking at in a minute

623
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:33,720
but I'm interested you said you
had something about the school

624
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,180
John C. Dvorak: I do. It's a
little I think it might be a

625
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,400
little tedious but it does get
to a point

626
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Adam Curry: don't mind tedious.
It's a Sunday. Okay, well, this

627
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,400
is going to be

628
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:44,910
John C. Dvorak: educational.
This was democracy now on

629
00:38:44,910 --> 00:38:48,900
Friday. I had a special a fourth
of July show and it was it

630
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:54,540
consisted of a first started off
with a speech from 1852 done

631
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,220
done a copy of it, you know,
they just did a Frederick

632
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:02,640
Douglass speech from 1852 about
how rotten this country

633
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,010
Adam Curry: Oh, this was a
fourth of July celebration

634
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:09,690
Democracy Now style. Yes, we
hate America. Happy Fourth

635
00:39:09,690 --> 00:39:11,340
everybody. Yes. Okay. Got it.

636
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:13,530
John C. Dvorak: So they start
with that and then they go to a

637
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,220
long like it was long interview
with Angela Davis.

638
00:39:17,310 --> 00:39:21,570
Adam Curry: Ah, that's the right
one to have. Yeah, so as

639
00:39:21,570 --> 00:39:23,970
John C. Dvorak: they bring her
on to tell us tell us how

640
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,700
miserable this country is. So I
picked up unfortunately, it

641
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:34,020
picked up where I got five
clips. And couple them are

642
00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:37,800
short, but did the last couple
of them are long ish, but very

643
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080
well worth it. And then I have

644
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,810
Adam Curry: now now you
understand why I wanted to move

645
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:45,780
my Corona clips later because I
have five clips one of the

646
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:49,080
longest. I just wanted to have
you go through that pain first.

647
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,850
I'm ready for it. It's good. I'm

648
00:39:50,850 --> 00:39:52,620
John C. Dvorak: excellent. Here
we go with the pain. Let's start

649
00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:55,260
with the introduction in the
discussion with Angela Davis

650
00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:55,830
one.

651
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,490
Adam Curry: Okie dokie defund
the police becomes a rallying

652
00:39:59,490 --> 00:40:03,120
cry of the movement. Well for
more on this historic moment, we

653
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,990
turn to the legendary activist
and scholar Angela J. Berries

654
00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:10,020
professor emeritus at the
University of California, Santa

655
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:13,920
Cruz. For half a century, Angela
Davis has been one of the most

656
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,920
influential activists and
intellectuals in the United

657
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,340
States and an icon of the black
liberation movement. I

658
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:23,670
interviewed her in early June
and asked her if she thought

659
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:26,220
this moment is truly a turning
point.

660
00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:30,270
Unknown: This is an
extraordinary moment, I've never

661
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experienced anything like the
conditions we are currently

662
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experiencing. The conjuncture
created by the COVID 19 pandemic

663
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and the recognition of the
systemic racism that had that

664
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has been rendered visible under
these conditions because of the

665
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disproportionate deaths in black
and Latin X communities.

666
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Adam Curry: Wow, she goes, she's
just just a point of

667
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observation. She bowls in the
Latin X communities. Oh, yeah,

668
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:08,400
they're trying to get that's not
really accepted with a DOS

669
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group. So like they're

670
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John C. Dvorak: a little tired
of the A das group is not going

671
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to buy into any of this crap.
The Okay, Angela Davis is a

672
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Marxist from the get go. She was
originally one of the members of

673
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the Black Panther Party, and the
early days and she became a

674
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professor. And she's picked up a
over the years because I heard

675
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,140
her speech speak in the in the
70s. She's picked up at Maya

676
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:40,830
Angelou. Yes. Yeah. With the
core emphasis on the ending

677
00:41:40,890 --> 00:41:45,090
tease, and a little bit of a,
it's a little also a little

678
00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:48,330
black preacher in there. But
she's got this very haughty

679
00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:52,950
style of speaking now. And she's
a professor or was for years at

680
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:57,960
Santa Cruz, where she would
basically blow out anti American

681
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,340
Marxist rhetoric to the students
there and it was allowed and it

682
00:42:02,340 --> 00:42:06,450
was it was a go, this is great.
And I was encouraged. We have

683
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Yes, it was encouraged and the
schools are just pathetic, anti

684
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American institutions at this
point. They don't do anything

685
00:42:14,130 --> 00:42:16,590
positive. They'll say nothing
positive about the country's all

686
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Howard Zinn type of stuff. Oh,
yeah, we're terrible. Well, it

687
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was a lot of bull crap thrown
in. That's just, it just lies.

688
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,420
But let's go to the second clip,

689
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Unknown: long been a leader of
the critical resistance

690
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:34,920
movement, the abolition
movement, and I'm wondering if

691
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you can explain the demand, as
you see it, what you feel needs

692
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:44,100
to be done around defunding the
police and then around prison

693
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abolition?

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Well, the call to defund the
police is, I think, an

695
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abolitionist demand. But it
reflects only one aspect of the

696
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process represented by the
demand. Defending the police is

697
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not simply about withdrawing
funding for law enforcement and

698
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:13,740
doing nothing else. And it
appears as if this is the rather

699
00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:18,780
superficial understanding that
has caused Biden to move in the

700
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direction he's moving in. It's
about shifting public funds to

701
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new services and, and new
institutions and mental health

702
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counsellors who can respond to
people who are in crisis without

703
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arms. It's about shifting
funding, to education, to

704
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housing, to recreation. All of
these things help to create

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security and safety.

706
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Adam Curry: Wait a minute, did
she say arms as in weapons?

707
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Yeah.

708
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Unknown: can respond to people
who are in crisis without arms.

709
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That's

710
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John C. Dvorak: arms. She said
arms 's

711
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Adam Curry: arms. That's kind of
interesting seeing is that she

712
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through the Black Panthers was
directly responsible for the

713
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:16,770
Mulford Act which banned guns in
California, which Ronald Reagan

714
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signed. That's kind of
interesting that she's now

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calling for guns, which I'm not
against, of course.

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John C. Dvorak: No, no, no, no,
you misunderstood her arms. She

717
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was say service without arms.
When she

718
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Adam Curry: was her whole, her
whole history was supposed to be

719
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for arming poor people, black
people, and now she's against

720
00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:48,780
it. Yeah, she's a traitor to her
own thing. Her own thing and her

721
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own arms.

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John C. Dvorak: Arms, arms. xOP.

723
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Adam Curry: I think that's a RM
hyphen. AR M hyphen za I think

724
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is arms.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So let's
go. Now the third clip is

726
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actually Angela Davis feminist.
And this one I thought was the

727
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:08,670
most fascinating of the clips
except for the last one, which

728
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is the best. But this is
another. This is by the way, and

729
00:45:13,230 --> 00:45:15,270
people want to do some research
on this. You look up

730
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,430
revolutionary abolitionist
movement are the rats, the ones

731
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that's the one and you try to
find out what these guys are

732
00:45:22,770 --> 00:45:26,250
about. They're a bunch of
they've, they've taken Marxist

733
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:30,210
ideology. And by the way,
Marxist ideology goes back to

734
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:35,460
the 1860s. That's how old this
stuff is. This is old, old and

735
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:40,410
failed ideas, but we're gonna go
back to them anyway. But

736
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Adam Curry: it's not it's just
not your daddy's Boomer

737
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:48,270
socialism. You got it all wrong.
It's a different kind. It's just

738
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like gay means something
different now.

739
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,430
John C. Dvorak: Well, here's a
little interesting little twist,

740
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:54,810
she wants to put on things,

741
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Unknown: I would argue that
abolition is a feminist

742
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,330
strategy.

743
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:05,730
Adam Curry: Wow. She's even
doing feminists. This is a very

744
00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:09,540
interesting accent. This is this
is like, really a speaking

745
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:10,620
disorder feminist.

746
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Unknown: And I would argue that
abolition is a feminist

747
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:21,240
strategy. And one sees NZs
abolitionist demands that are

748
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emerging the pivotal influence
of a feminist theories and

749
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,820
practices and want us to see
feminism not only as addressing

750
00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:39,660
issues of gender, but rather as
a methodological approach to

751
00:46:39,690 --> 00:46:45,450
understanding the
intersectionality of struggle.

752
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:54,090
Issues. Population feminism, a
counters carceral feminism,

753
00:46:54,090 --> 00:46:59,850
which has, unfortunately assumed
that issues such as violence

754
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against women can be effectively
addressed by using police force

755
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:13,350
by, by, by by by using
imprisonment as a solution. And

756
00:47:13,350 --> 00:47:18,480
of course, we know that Joseph
Biden in 1994.

757
00:47:18,510 --> 00:47:20,940
Adam Curry: Wow, this is also
I'm sorry to interrupt I find

758
00:47:20,940 --> 00:47:23,670
this fair, this is not tedious.
This is great. You've got to

759
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:27,060
you've got to say, Joseph Biden,
this isn't this isn't this is a

760
00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:29,880
trend things are happening
unfolding before our very eyes

761
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:36,480
Unknown: using police force by,
by, by by by using imprisonment

762
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as a solution. And of course, we
know that Joseph Biden in 1994,

763
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who claims that the Violence
Against Women Act was such an

764
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important moment in his career.
The Violence Against Women Act

765
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was couched within the 1994
Crime Act, the Clinton Crime

766
00:48:03,210 --> 00:48:08,850
Act. And what we're calling for
is a process of

767
00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:15,120
decriminalisation not a wreck
recognising that, that threats

768
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:22,770
to safety threats to security
come not primarily from what is

769
00:48:22,770 --> 00:48:29,760
defined as crime but rather from
the failure of, of institutions

770
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,850
in our country to address issues
of health issues of violence,

771
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:42,270
education, etc. So abolition is
really about rethinking the kind

772
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:46,860
of future we want a social
future, the economic, future,

773
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:50,850
the political future. It's about
revolution, I would argue,

774
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,900
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. And the
revolution is brought to you by

775
00:48:54,900 --> 00:49:02,970
Nike. And a couple others and a
couple others. I do like what

776
00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:05,220
she said, because if I
understand her properly, she's

777
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:08,790
kind of steering it away from a
colour issue to an economic

778
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:11,970
issue, which is what the problem
is, because you're not wrong

779
00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:12,990
there. But then we get

780
00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:15,840
John C. Dvorak: away from well,
there Yeah. economic issue and

781
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,690
the economic issue, as you will
hear in the last clip,

782
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,520
Adam Curry: the rich people
gotta listen. Yeah, of course.

783
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,030
John C. Dvorak: I gotta go. I
understand redistribution of

784
00:49:24,030 --> 00:49:26,220
wealth. That's the way to do it.
We should do what we should be

785
00:49:26,220 --> 00:49:28,800
like Venezuela, we should be
like all the other socialist

786
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:33,480
pure socialist societies that
have all failed, but that's they

787
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,060
have failed because if there's
something wrong, there's some

788
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:40,140
things they said they haven't
failed for any. Why it doesn't

789
00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:42,840
mean anything that they fail, we
can do it. I lived

790
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,350
Adam Curry: in socialist
countries socialist systems. And

791
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:52,050
the problem is the or the idea
is, everyone shares we get along

792
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:54,870
and we understand that there's
some shared burden and shared

793
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:59,310
upside. The problem is, human
nature is human are dicks, their

794
00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:02,370
bags of do X, and they don't
play along by the rules. So you

795
00:50:02,370 --> 00:50:05,760
have to have a different system
that lets people who play along

796
00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:10,530
when and people who don't crush.
How's that for an explanation of

797
00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:12,150
capitalism versus socialism?

798
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:15,780
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's
cruel. It's cruel, you're cruel

799
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:16,110
man.

800
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Adam Curry: Sucks. People are
horrible. They don't play along

801
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:23,909
they scam everything. And so
never works.

802
00:50:24,059 --> 00:50:26,039
John C. Dvorak: And that's
because of the education system.

803
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:29,489
Adam, if it was, if we were they
were better educated and better

804
00:50:29,489 --> 00:50:33,089
trained, and they didn't have
this need this constant need to

805
00:50:33,089 --> 00:50:35,999
go out and do so that's true.
Yeah, if they were counselled if

806
00:50:35,999 --> 00:50:39,059
there were counsellors to help
those that you're complaining

807
00:50:39,059 --> 00:50:42,989
about, and get them on the right
track or re educate them, as it

808
00:50:42,989 --> 00:50:47,279
were, in reeducation camps, we
wouldn't have these issues as

809
00:50:47,309 --> 00:50:50,129
these would be fine. It'd be
done. We good

810
00:50:50,310 --> 00:50:55,890
Adam Curry: little Johnny, your
Mandarin teacher is here. Let's

811
00:50:55,890 --> 00:50:59,430
go got a clip for okay, this is
Dean doesn't need to set up

812
00:50:59,670 --> 00:51:00,450
straight into it

813
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,190
John C. Dvorak: died and
remember the setup,

814
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:08,460
Unknown: we have to recognise
the devastatingly negative role

815
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:14,610
that that history has played in
charting the trajectory of the

816
00:51:14,610 --> 00:51:23,460
United States of America. And I
think that, that these assaults

817
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:30,510
on statues represent an attempt
to begin to think through what

818
00:51:30,510 --> 00:51:35,670
we have to do to bring down
institutions and re envision

819
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:42,240
them or reorganise them create
new institutions that can attend

820
00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:45,120
to the needs of all people.

821
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And what do you think should be
done with statues? For example,

822
00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:54,390
two, oh, slaveholding founding
fathers like George Washington

823
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and Thomas Jefferson,

824
00:51:56,129 --> 00:52:01,499
kilo know us names can play an
important educational role. And

825
00:52:02,009 --> 00:52:05,939
I don't think we should get rid
of all of the vestiges of the

826
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past but we need to figure out
context within which people can

827
00:52:11,279 --> 00:52:18,029
understand the nature of US
history and the role that racism

828
00:52:18,029 --> 00:52:23,489
and capitalism and hetero
patriarchy have played forging

829
00:52:23,549 --> 00:52:24,479
that history.

830
00:52:25,230 --> 00:52:29,610
Can you talk about racism and
capitalism you often write and

831
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:32,820
speak about how they are
intimately connected and talk

832
00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:35,220
about a world that you envision

833
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:41,880
Adam Curry: hetero patriarchy
What is What do you think that

834
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,080
is about?

835
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,420
John C. Dvorak: white,
heterosexual Missis males?

836
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,280
Adam Curry: I'm gonna just say
well, here we go hetero

837
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:56,190
patriarchy it has a has a wiki
page in feminist theory. Hetero

838
00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:00,300
patriarchy is a socio political
system where primarily

839
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:04,140
cisgendered males and
heterosexuals have authority

840
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:09,300
authority over cisgendered.
Female, please, if I have it, I

841
00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:12,930
give it back immediately. I have
no desire to have this burden.

842
00:53:13,170 --> 00:53:17,340
This authority. Okay, I gotcha.
All right. I have lots to say.

843
00:53:17,370 --> 00:53:18,510
What's our what's our final

844
00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:20,700
John C. Dvorak: waiting I'm
listening by this is a long

845
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:23,550
thing. I've taken chunks here
and there that are relevant. I

846
00:53:23,550 --> 00:53:25,950
like it. So I'm waiting and
waiting waiting for the shoe to

847
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:28,050
drop with it, which is what I'm
looking for. Then I'm waiting

848
00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:31,200
for Amy to push back a little
bit. I have that. So I do have a

849
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,080
clip. I think it's on there
called response or something

850
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,100
like that. You see that on their

851
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:38,670
Adam Curry: response? Yes, I do.

852
00:53:38,910 --> 00:53:40,650
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, don't
Okay, well, that's the that'll

853
00:53:40,650 --> 00:53:43,770
be the at the very end, not
under the next she asked her a

854
00:53:43,770 --> 00:53:46,980
question. And that's where I cut
it. Because now she finally got

855
00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:51,120
to she's got her Oh, she's he's
feeling your oats. And she's

856
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,700
gonna like tell it what we need
to do to fix the world.

857
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:55,890
Adam Curry: Oh, I've been
waiting for it in two minutes

858
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:57,660
and 15 seconds. I'm very excited

859
00:53:57,660 --> 00:53:59,670
John C. Dvorak: in two minutes
and 15 seconds, you're gonna get

860
00:53:59,670 --> 00:54:04,920
it. This is. And to me, this is
the entire situation that we're

861
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,480
dealing with. Thank you,
colleges and universities for

862
00:54:09,630 --> 00:54:12,300
for making this possible. And
let's hear her

863
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:15,840
Unknown: about a world that you
envision. Your racism

864
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,230
is integrally linked to
capitalism. And I think it's a

865
00:54:19,230 --> 00:54:23,880
mistake to assume that we can
combat racism by leaving

866
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:29,130
capitalism in place. As Cedric
Robinson pointed out in his

867
00:54:29,130 --> 00:54:34,800
book, black market Marxism,
capitalism is racial capitalism.

868
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:41,700
And, of course does just say for
a moment that Marx pointed out

869
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,250
that what he called primitive
accumulation. Capital doesn't

870
00:54:47,250 --> 00:54:51,600
just appear from nowhere the
original capital was provided by

871
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,840
the labour of slaves. The
Industrial Revolution, which

872
00:54:55,380 --> 00:55:00,360
pivoted around the production of
capital was enabled by slave

873
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:06,180
labour in the US. So I am
convinced eradication of racism.

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Adam Curry: Say again. What were
y'all protesting?

875
00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:12,720
John C. Dvorak: She's, she's got
this thing about, you know,

876
00:55:12,750 --> 00:55:16,500
she's trying to make a point.
That's not not mapable. Because

877
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if you look at the history of
slavery, which goes back in

878
00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:22,770
Western societies to 1400s, that
is actually probably before

879
00:55:22,770 --> 00:55:26,490
that, and they're like the
Romans held slaves. And but the

880
00:55:26,490 --> 00:55:30,900
point is, is that slavery was
was in full force until the

881
00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:33,870
Industrial Revolution, once the
Industrial Revolution exactly

882
00:55:33,870 --> 00:55:38,790
what it had did, they didn't
need slaves anymore. Except in

883
00:55:38,790 --> 00:55:40,860
that for in the United States in
the south, they need them

884
00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:43,410
because they had to pick cotton
because there was a confluence

885
00:55:43,410 --> 00:55:47,160
of a couple of coincidences. One
was the cotton gin, which

886
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,520
allowed us to produce a lot more
cotton and usually needed more

887
00:55:50,670 --> 00:55:54,630
people picking on that cotton is
hard to sew and the British had

888
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:57,720
a textile revolution, thanks to
the Industrial Revolution, where

889
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,720
they were making textiles by the
tonnes they needed as much cut

890
00:56:00,750 --> 00:56:03,930
as they could get. So we were
kind of, you know, forced to

891
00:56:04,350 --> 00:56:08,010
kind of up the slave ante. So
the slavery, the input of slaves

892
00:56:08,010 --> 00:56:10,140
went up until the Civil War, how
did the

893
00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:14,790
Adam Curry: How did the Brits
get away with I mean, the slave

894
00:56:14,790 --> 00:56:18,300
trade at the height of the
British Empire, it was a

895
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,640
commodity if you could buy
stocks,

896
00:56:21,419 --> 00:56:25,229
John C. Dvorak: yes, in slaves,
once the Industrial Revolution

897
00:56:25,229 --> 00:56:29,759
took hold, and Britain in the
1820s, or even before somewhat,

898
00:56:29,759 --> 00:56:32,969
but when it really took hold,
that's when they really decided

899
00:56:32,969 --> 00:56:38,069
to slave things gotta go. And so
they had the slave abolition act

900
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:41,489
of a 1833. That was slave
slavery was abolished in

901
00:56:41,489 --> 00:56:43,889
England, and they kind of washed
their hands of the whole thing,

902
00:56:43,949 --> 00:56:48,749
meanwhile, demanding cotton from
us. It was a it was a disaster

903
00:56:48,749 --> 00:56:52,199
for us insofar as we're having
to maintain the slaveholders

904
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:56,159
down in the south. But for her
to say that the Industrial

905
00:56:56,159 --> 00:57:00,899
Revolution was was built on the
backs of slaves is nuts. She's

906
00:57:00,989 --> 00:57:05,729
full of shit this woman, and she
is giving a course on whatever

907
00:57:05,729 --> 00:57:08,939
to her courses are at Santa
Cruz, her word they know she's

908
00:57:08,939 --> 00:57:12,659
now retired. And she's going on
with this nonsense. And let's

909
00:57:12,659 --> 00:57:15,929
get to the point by finishing
this clip and see what she, what

910
00:57:15,929 --> 00:57:16,949
she's really after

911
00:57:16,979 --> 00:57:21,329
Unknown: around the production
of capital was enabled by slave

912
00:57:21,329 --> 00:57:25,709
labour in the US. So I am
convinced that the ultimate

913
00:57:25,709 --> 00:57:30,149
eradication of racism is going
to require us to move toward a

914
00:57:30,149 --> 00:57:36,569
more socialist organisation of
our economies of our other

915
00:57:36,569 --> 00:57:40,469
institutions. I think we have a
long way to go before we can

916
00:57:40,469 --> 00:57:44,429
begin to talk about an economic
system that is not based on

917
00:57:44,459 --> 00:57:49,049
exploitation and on the Super
exploitation of black people,

918
00:57:49,049 --> 00:57:53,669
Latin X people and other
racialized populations. I do

919
00:57:53,669 --> 00:57:58,799
think that we now have the
conceptual means to engage in

920
00:57:59,099 --> 00:58:04,589
discussions popular discussions
about capitalism occupy gave us

921
00:58:04,589 --> 00:58:09,179
new language. The notion of the
moisture industrial complex

922
00:58:09,179 --> 00:58:14,639
requires us to understand the
globalisation of capitalism.

923
00:58:15,209 --> 00:58:18,839
Anti capitalist consciousness
helps us to understand the

924
00:58:18,839 --> 00:58:23,369
predicament of immigrants who
are barred from the US by the

925
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:28,469
world that has been created by
the current occupant. These

926
00:58:28,469 --> 00:58:33,299
conditions have been created by
global capitalism. I think this

927
00:58:33,299 --> 00:58:38,609
is a period during which we need
to begin that process of popular

928
00:58:38,729 --> 00:58:43,169
education which will allow
people to understand the

929
00:58:43,169 --> 00:58:49,079
Internet interconnections hetero
patriarchy, capitalism,

930
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,520
Adam Curry: this is the New York
Times 1619 project. This is what

931
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,300
this is all about rewriting
history literally rewriting what

932
00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:00,480
John C. Dvorak: you think. Do
you think Amy push back listen

933
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,560
to her response.

934
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,310
Adam Curry: John, you just made
this show not safe for work. I

935
00:59:08,310 --> 00:59:09,990
don't even know what that sound
is

936
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:12,090
John C. Dvorak: my dog drinking
water.

937
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:19,620
Adam Curry: So I guess Amy was
lapping it up. You got

938
00:59:19,620 --> 00:59:23,970
John C. Dvorak: it. You also
stole my mic check Joe.

939
00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:28,530
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. We have
the same sharp comedic stylings

940
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:35,220
What can I say you know there's
something about you editing

941
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:38,970
clips to for the funny that is
just so endearing. Really,

942
00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:44,940
really love it. Yeah, this is
this is very, very interesting.

943
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:48,000
She should probably crack open
youtube once in a while and see

944
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,920
what what other black Americans
are saying, you know, and what

945
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,730
the what they're feeling about
the defund movement. And you

946
00:59:56,730 --> 01:00:00,000
pretty much can't get I mean, of
course we have m five M clip

947
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Today, but if you really want
some information, you got to go

948
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,480
to podcasts, you got to go to
YouTube. Certainly in Fourth of

949
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,640
July weekend, the media is not
working at all. It's just

950
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,360
running on autopilot is one big
algo. And the algo, you start

951
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,790
the algo. And it basically goes.
And the algo just runs

952
01:00:17,790 --> 01:00:20,580
throughout the weekend. But if
you look at what people, for

953
01:00:20,580 --> 01:00:24,240
instance, in New York City are
saying about the de fund and

954
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,600
what's happening, particularly
New York City, where the Crime

955
01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:32,130
Investigation Unit has been, was
it dissolved? Are they a walk

956
01:00:32,130 --> 01:00:34,950
off? Or was it both? Do you
remember? It doesn't matter?

957
01:00:35,609 --> 01:00:37,589
John C. Dvorak: They won't
immediately will not play these

958
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:38,159
stories for

959
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,800
Adam Curry: me. Exactly. So we
don't even know really what's

960
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:41,130
going on. I

961
01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:42,720
John C. Dvorak: don't even know
what's going on with the New

962
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,710
York Police. Here's the centre
of the media, you know, New

963
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:48,780
York, about anything.

964
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:51,150
Adam Curry: You don't think
there's any obfuscation going

965
01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:51,450
on? Do

966
01:00:51,450 --> 01:00:54,840
John C. Dvorak: you think there
is?

967
01:00:56,550 --> 01:01:00,690
Adam Curry: Yes, here's the New
York City YouTuber and he's he

968
01:01:00,690 --> 01:01:03,390
is identifying some very big
issues. Yo,

969
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:06,690
Unknown: they get rid of anti
crime in New York City. Anti

970
01:01:06,690 --> 01:01:10,230
crime was basically a
plainclothes unit and went

971
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:13,950
around and dealt with you know,
felonies and robberies, whatever

972
01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:15,630
shit like that, you know, heavy
shit.

973
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:18,060
Adam Curry: By the way, probably
not safe for work to play out

974
01:01:18,060 --> 01:01:18,420
loud.

975
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,970
Unknown: You know, dealing with
the real fucked up people in

976
01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:24,180
society, you know, not even got
rid of that shit. You know what

977
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:27,240
I mean? Now we're dealing with
everything you got a bunch of

978
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,870
you got a bunch of cops. They
don't want to do nothing. You

979
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:33,810
know, I'm saying nobody don't
want to do nothing. Naturally,

980
01:01:33,810 --> 01:01:36,600
because you know why? Nobody
don't want to lose a job. They

981
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,260
got family to support then you
got the community like fuck that

982
01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:42,660
this or that? You know, so it's
like a whole back and forth

983
01:01:42,690 --> 01:01:46,140
battle. But at the end of the
day, you know what, you lose?

984
01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:49,920
Now I'm saying because now you
got a bunch of fucking people

985
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:54,300
that think they cowboys running
around carrying fucking guns all

986
01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:57,150
over the city and ain't nobody
to check them. You know what I

987
01:01:57,150 --> 01:02:00,330
mean? You got fucking criminals
running around. Now your whole

988
01:02:00,330 --> 01:02:04,710
shit is like, fucked up. So now
you're looking for Batman? The

989
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:05,340
Avengers.

990
01:02:06,690 --> 01:02:09,480
Adam Curry: Just exactly what
they're promising Batman in The

991
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,230
Avengers aren't

992
01:02:10,410 --> 01:02:12,780
Unknown: gonna light Tom
vacation. You don't even realise

993
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:16,410
that? Within New York City in
the past couple of weeks. So

994
01:02:16,410 --> 01:02:20,310
many people have been murdered
and killed violently. But you

995
01:02:20,310 --> 01:02:23,220
know what, this is just the tip
of the iceberg. You ain't seen

996
01:02:23,220 --> 01:02:26,820
nothing yet. Now as the time
goes on, it's gonna get worse.

997
01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:30,150
You know, right now they
complaining over the fireworks

998
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:33,300
and fireworks sound like
gunshots you know, so now you

999
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:36,630
mixing all that in, you know?
Now you got blocks full of

1000
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:39,990
fucking people partying at
nighttime. These people that

1001
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:43,050
don't go to work, don't do
anything. Don't give a fuck

1002
01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:46,860
about the quality of life don't
give a fuck about themselves. So

1003
01:02:46,860 --> 01:02:50,370
you know what, man? Now you can
see. Now you want to really,

1004
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:52,290
really see what it is, you know,
I'm saying?

1005
01:02:53,130 --> 01:02:55,050
Adam Curry: I think that's a
pretty accurate report of what's

1006
01:02:55,050 --> 01:02:57,480
really happening in some New
York neighbourhoods.

1007
01:02:58,740 --> 01:03:01,650
John C. Dvorak: And it's it's
probably is probably raised now.

1008
01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:05,430
There's a real class CEOs
oblivious doll. This guy is

1009
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:05,940
crazy.

1010
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,780
Adam Curry: There's a there's a
huge contradiction or

1011
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:12,060
John C. Dvorak: what and before
you go on the blast who would

1012
01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:15,570
buy into the Angela Davis ideas
let's just re educate and he's

1013
01:03:15,570 --> 01:03:16,680
the popular edgy, he's

1014
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,110
Adam Curry: drinking. He's
drinking tea and smoking hash

1015
01:03:19,110 --> 01:03:21,750
where the right now What are you
talking about would buy into it?

1016
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:27,840
The UFC is probably directing
the shoot. Here's the Kanaan

1017
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,020
sorry. You know, here's the
conundrum. And we saw this

1018
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:36,060
happen with chop Chas. What was
the one thing that no Democrat

1019
01:03:36,060 --> 01:03:39,690
could ever endorse? Ever?
Anywhere for any reason

1020
01:03:39,690 --> 01:03:42,720
whatsoever on the United
American streets?

1021
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,930
John C. Dvorak: God, God, God,
yes.

1022
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:51,360
Adam Curry: Guns. So what did we
see? We saw lots of AR fifteens.

1023
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:54,600
I mean, if you go through the
show notes, you just want to

1024
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:58,710
hear a couple of different clips
from the past about the you know

1025
01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:01,500
how this is the most horrible
weapon in the world has no

1026
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:05,460
business being on American
streets is it's just it's

1027
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:11,070
unthinkable but that's okay,
it's chairs and they can then go

1028
01:04:11,070 --> 01:04:14,940
ahead. So this very confusing
messages that are being sent and

1029
01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:18,930
I'm not quite sure what the
leadership is thinking. But I do

1030
01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:21,180
know what black America is
thinking because they're saying

1031
01:04:21,180 --> 01:04:25,410
it out loud. And this was in the
New York Times I did not expect

1032
01:04:25,410 --> 01:04:32,070
it that a huge article. Titled
I'm a black American, I need a

1033
01:04:32,070 --> 01:04:35,340
gun to feel safe in this
country. And I just took a

1034
01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:38,310
little piece of video of course
they're producing some fun video

1035
01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:44,370
to go along with their writing.
I grew up really anti gun.

1036
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:47,460
Unknown: I grew up in a pretty
liberal California family. I

1037
01:04:47,460 --> 01:04:50,940
wasn't into firearms. I was kind
of opposed to them.

1038
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:54,150
Adam Curry: My parents were
never really into firearms. I

1039
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:56,070
actually really don't like guns
when I

1040
01:04:56,070 --> 01:04:59,970
Unknown: 100% for certain will
be buying a gun or two or three

1041
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,730
like owning a firearm is
important to me.

1042
01:05:02,970 --> 01:05:06,510
When you look outside you can
kind of see that there's a need

1043
01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:09,930
for people protecting themselves
buying firearms, being conscious

1044
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,500
John C. Dvorak: black people. We
live in a very violent country.

1045
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,490
And this country doesn't give us
that options.

1046
01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:20,250
Unknown: We park my bike over
here to take a break real quick

1047
01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:24,480
got a white guy here pointing
the gun and for black men. Oh,

1048
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,470
we're doing standing here.

1049
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:30,210
This lady Lilla just pulled the
gun because we are handed have

1050
01:05:30,210 --> 01:05:41,820
reservations. Guns are
dangerous. I never wanted one of

1051
01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:45,060
my home. But a month ago, I
bought a handgun and I learned

1052
01:05:45,060 --> 01:05:48,150
how to shoot it right now. I
need a gun to be safe in this

1053
01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:48,630
country.

1054
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,370
Adam Curry: I so while I
understand and support everyone

1055
01:05:53,370 --> 01:05:56,460
purchasing a gun, what the New
York Times is doing here is a

1056
01:05:56,460 --> 01:06:00,060
super asshole move. Because
they're taking the pain of the

1057
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:06,210
so called white cops killing the
black criminal. And then now

1058
01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:10,860
transferring it to your white
fellow American who's just

1059
01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:15,210
fucked up himself. So it's not
the police? No, no, now it's the

1060
01:06:15,210 --> 01:06:19,830
way that the whole piece went
from police to white people. And

1061
01:06:19,830 --> 01:06:26,640
of course, we had the Canon
Karen in Louisiana. Which if I

1062
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,310
may say, I thought it was very
funny that our heads were

1063
01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:35,190
photoshopped on. On canon Karen.
I feel like I feel I did. I feel

1064
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:40,350
I did get the raw end of the
stick this time. I mean, the way

1065
01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:43,140
she held the weapon is really
wrong.

1066
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:47,970
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, maybe like
for bad. Not that not that you

1067
01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:51,150
were photoshopped onto a woman?
No, that's not the problem. No,

1068
01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:51,210
I

1069
01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:52,260
Adam Curry: have no problem with
that. The

1070
01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:55,170
John C. Dvorak: problem was the
way she holds. Yes, she got her

1071
01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:56,640
finger pull again like that. She

1072
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,500
Adam Curry: got her booger
finger on the trigger, which

1073
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:02,370
very, I mean, especially I think
I look like a Walther PPK

1074
01:07:02,370 --> 01:07:05,760
couldn't tell that can go off.
You got to be careful with your

1075
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,950
finger on the trigger, lady,
make sure you know what you're

1076
01:07:07,950 --> 01:07:11,490
doing. And he also grew up, he
was lefty, which is kind of

1077
01:07:11,490 --> 01:07:16,260
weird to look at anyway. It's
very interesting that this is

1078
01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:20,040
happening in lieu of the Angela
Davis clip that you play because

1079
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:24,180
that was the Black Panthers came
out specifically to protect our

1080
01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:28,650
neighbourhoods and of course,
the white response to it, and

1081
01:07:28,650 --> 01:07:31,590
this case, not the Democrats,
but the Republicans Ronald

1082
01:07:31,590 --> 01:07:35,730
Reagan was to shut that shit
down. And now it's being

1083
01:07:35,730 --> 01:07:41,520
promoted. It's a very different
tactic and it's working because

1084
01:07:42,510 --> 01:07:44,880
and there's maybe a number of
reasons why this is happening.

1085
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,300
I'll just say one. Is it
possible that they want a repeat

1086
01:07:48,930 --> 01:07:54,510
of the Black Panthers? So we
have more Mulford acts for all

1087
01:07:54,510 --> 01:07:57,840
50 states to really get rid of
guns that's possible. I don't I

1088
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,150
could that's very, very
sinister, but it could be

1089
01:08:00,150 --> 01:08:05,730
happening. It may also be to
capture some of the NRA money

1090
01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:08,970
that is loot that is on the
downside and Ira is definitely

1091
01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:11,850
not loved by everybody in the
United States. And now we have

1092
01:08:11,850 --> 01:08:15,540
something new a new entity, the
N A GA

1093
01:08:15,630 --> 01:08:19,140
Unknown: redstone firearms is
registered with the NRA. The

1094
01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:22,470
organisation has a tight grip on
the gun industry offering

1095
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:26,550
benefits to business owners like
Geneva, get Geneva turn to

1096
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:30,690
another gun club for a sense of
belonging. Its name, the

1097
01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:34,950
National African American gun
association or NACA, some call

1098
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:38,610
it the NRA for black people to
to the body wants you to have

1099
01:08:38,790 --> 01:08:40,890
the Solomons Nagar state direct
district.

1100
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:44,760
Adam Curry: Wow, that could be
an indoor show why so? Do you

1101
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,320
hear that to to the body one to
the head

1102
01:08:47,670 --> 01:08:48,390
John C. Dvorak: plate again.

1103
01:08:48,450 --> 01:08:50,790
Adam Curry: Okay. Hello. I think
yeah, check it out. Here we go.

1104
01:08:51,270 --> 01:08:55,320
To to the body wants you to head
yeah, okay,

1105
01:08:55,349 --> 01:09:02,639
Unknown: California. Dr. Rashid
IV is one of NASA's newest

1106
01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:03,359
members.

1107
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:06,510
I love what Naga is going in
love that positive. They were

1108
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:09,480
how much they were really
devoted to teaching people how

1109
01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:12,270
to be positive gun owners and
changing the stigma in our

1110
01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:13,500
communities of gun ownership.

1111
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,650
Are you also a member of the
NRA? No. Why not?

1112
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,410
The stigma associated with them
is that their race gets a racist

1113
01:09:19,410 --> 01:09:20,100
organisation.

1114
01:09:20,430 --> 01:09:22,680
Adam Curry: Hmm. So we're
shifting some these are big

1115
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,220
moves that are coming. And, of
course, what is it Gun Club

1116
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:29,430
really for? It's not just to
help you learn how to shoot your

1117
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:29,820
gun.

1118
01:09:29,849 --> 01:09:35,249
Unknown: NASA is looking at
possibly forming a PAC. Why?

1119
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,900
I think it is selfish, at a
minimum not to look at other

1120
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:41,070
avenues to help our people.

1121
01:09:41,309 --> 01:09:44,579
Adam Curry: Are you going to be
looking to endorse candidates or

1122
01:09:44,579 --> 01:09:45,959
focus on issues?

1123
01:09:46,019 --> 01:09:48,149
Unknown: We're gonna focus on
issues? Well, there's some

1124
01:09:48,179 --> 01:09:50,279
African American minutes but
specifically in certain parts of

1125
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:52,289
the country, they have a very
difficult time getting a gun

1126
01:09:52,289 --> 01:09:55,469
licence for whatever reason.
They don't have any background

1127
01:09:55,469 --> 01:09:58,529
issues, races clean credit, they
have a good job, but for some

1128
01:09:58,529 --> 01:10:01,169
reason they get declined. We
would like to be an advocate for

1129
01:10:01,169 --> 01:10:02,219
those type of individuals.

1130
01:10:02,820 --> 01:10:07,470
Are you concerned that if NASA
goes political, some white

1131
01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:10,920
people are going to be afraid
that it's the new Black Panther

1132
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:11,490
Party?

1133
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,650
I don't care what they think.
Why have a National African

1134
01:10:16,650 --> 01:10:20,400
American gun Association? Why
not just joined the NRA? Well,

1135
01:10:20,580 --> 01:10:23,550
this is America, right? We can
create any organisation that we

1136
01:10:23,550 --> 01:10:26,250
want, and why shouldn't we
create an organisation that

1137
01:10:26,370 --> 01:10:29,220
we're prideful of an
organisation that is focused on

1138
01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:32,460
our community and organisation
is focused on education? Why

1139
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:34,980
not? Right so I really don't
care what anyone thinks. It's

1140
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:38,700
not about them. It's about us.
If we focus on them that's what

1141
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:39,390
they want.

1142
01:10:41,730 --> 01:10:45,570
Adam Curry: The way this is
being played. I also am I'm just

1143
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,470
putting out there what I'm
hearing Could I also be seeing

1144
01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:53,850
here to gun clubs being created
as rivals it certainly is

1145
01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:59,580
playing that way in the media.
Will the N eight a G A B the new

1146
01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:02,370
Black Panthers No, I don't think
so. We already have the new

1147
01:11:02,370 --> 01:11:08,100
Black Panthers. They're called
NFCA. And they were out on Stone

1148
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:12,510
Mountain doing some drill
practice. fully decked out full

1149
01:11:12,510 --> 01:11:17,220
on military grade type at least
looking here. Now all AR

1150
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:22,770
fifteens the NF or NF AC which
stands for not effing around

1151
01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:23,520
coalition

1152
01:11:23,610 --> 01:11:25,710
John C. Dvorak: right counter
threat. The threats don't me

1153
01:11:25,710 --> 01:11:30,510
shipped to us and threatening us
as Birmingham AC shit. What is

1154
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:34,020
your line of thought? You're
scary as Nick rose that pass

1155
01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:36,420
that shit around. Look at what
the fuck you did.

1156
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:37,710
You made blacks come out.

1157
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,910
I don't see no white militia. So
to the boogie boys, the three

1158
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:45,390
percenters and all the rest of
the skate as rednecks. We hit

1159
01:11:46,110 --> 01:11:48,150
with a buck us we didn't go
house

1160
01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:57,630
Adam Curry: streets are Lighten
up, man. Streets are lighten up.

1161
01:11:57,660 --> 01:12:00,540
There's all kinds of stuff
happening. But I'm a little

1162
01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:03,540
worried about what in particular
the House of Representatives,

1163
01:12:03,540 --> 01:12:08,640
the Democrats and their cronies
in in. In many states, I'm just

1164
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,570
worried what they're thinking
about doing. I mean, to me, it's

1165
01:12:12,570 --> 01:12:15,540
like now you really get into
different groups set up with

1166
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:18,780
guns on each side. But you're
doing under the guise of the

1167
01:12:18,780 --> 01:12:22,380
cops were killing us. And now
it's shifting. Shifting.

1168
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:28,680
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, but if you
want you guys are the guns.

1169
01:12:29,370 --> 01:12:31,470
Adam Curry: Well, there's,
there's, there's also that

1170
01:12:31,470 --> 01:12:35,940
here's, of course, now we can
just go to some more normal

1171
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:39,810
sounding people, the officer
Tatum, who is an African

1172
01:12:39,810 --> 01:12:44,070
American police officer, and
he's very tired of all of this

1173
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:46,530
crap. And this is very
reminiscent of what my one black

1174
01:12:46,530 --> 01:12:47,610
friend tells me as well.

1175
01:12:47,730 --> 01:12:51,660
Unknown: I have had enough. I've
had enough. I made a video

1176
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:55,770
earlier about my son getting a
notification on his EA Sports,

1177
01:12:55,890 --> 01:12:59,310
Madden game, talking about Black
Lives Matter and oppression of

1178
01:12:59,310 --> 01:13:02,670
black people, which is an
opinion by some it's not

1179
01:13:02,670 --> 01:13:06,570
verifiable unequivocal facts,
but yet they push it on young

1180
01:13:06,570 --> 01:13:09,270
people. And then one of my good
friends who happened to be

1181
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:12,120
white. And the funny thing he is
we have the same last name. We

1182
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,350
go on rides together. And he
showed me on the app, the Strava

1183
01:13:16,350 --> 01:13:19,740
app that you just upload your
rides to everybody have a good

1184
01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:22,560
time you like people stuff? If
you see the roster impressive

1185
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,010
paratus on there, everybody's
having a good time. Why on God's

1186
01:13:26,010 --> 01:13:30,390
green earth? Do they feel they
need to give an advisory about

1187
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:33,000
how they've been a racist
organisation all this time, and

1188
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,420
that black people need to do
special treatment. And you need

1189
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:39,210
to give us handouts, and worried
about black athletes. Listen,

1190
01:13:39,210 --> 01:13:42,810
man, as a black man in America,
and I've been black for 33

1191
01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:48,690
years. I am sick of the
pandering. I'm sick of the false

1192
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,010
equivalence. I'm sick of people
painting the picture like I am

1193
01:13:53,010 --> 01:13:57,270
less than in my own country.
This country belongs to me, just

1194
01:13:57,270 --> 01:14:01,680
like anybody else. I have never
experienced racism in America. I

1195
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,470
haven't. That doesn't mean that
other people haven't. But I

1196
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:07,050
don't have to walk around with
my head down, walking around

1197
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,540
acting like a victim when not
having had nothing to do with

1198
01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:12,090
that. And none of the people
that I know a racist. I don't

1199
01:14:12,090 --> 01:14:15,630
know racist. I've never been
around racist. Why do I have to

1200
01:14:15,630 --> 01:14:19,950
be subjected to an idea that
people are forcing on me just

1201
01:14:19,950 --> 01:14:22,830
because the colour of my skin?
It makes no sense to me.

1202
01:14:23,490 --> 01:14:25,950
Adam Curry: And that's a very
common common comment as well.

1203
01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:29,400
It's insulting at this point.
Stop it with your Venmo

1204
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,990
payments. People send them black
people $5 Sorry for racism. Like

1205
01:14:34,110 --> 01:14:36,630
I told you I told more about
that. You know what he said? He

1206
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:39,480
said what if you're going to
give Black people guns is what

1207
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:42,090
he said. Just give them that
that's that's that's what we

1208
01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:45,330
really need. So don't give me $5
That's insulting love

1209
01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:47,580
John C. Dvorak: everywhere. Send
me five bucks. I'd be taking it.

1210
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,630
Now.

1211
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,070
Adam Curry: I have one more
clip.

1212
01:14:50,910 --> 01:14:52,980
John C. Dvorak: Okay, this is
something that guy said. I've

1213
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,690
lost it already. Nevermind. Go
on.

1214
01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:57,210
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'm
staying in. He was talking about

1215
01:14:57,210 --> 01:14:58,890
sports about EA Sports and

1216
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,770
John C. Dvorak: that's what I
was gonna say. Hey, what did he

1217
01:15:01,770 --> 01:15:04,620
say that there's somebody booted
up Madden or something and there

1218
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:09,480
was a Black Lives Matter message
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What is that

1219
01:15:09,480 --> 01:15:10,140
all about?

1220
01:15:10,170 --> 01:15:13,560
Adam Curry: Well, okay check
this out Call of Duty has now

1221
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:19,110
removed the ok gesture so you
can't gesture okay to your to

1222
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:23,370
your teammates because racist
that's that gesture is just

1223
01:15:23,370 --> 01:15:23,940
gone.

1224
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,140
John C. Dvorak: Gestures never
meant anything but okay,

1225
01:15:28,169 --> 01:15:29,069
Adam Curry: but it's gone

1226
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:34,680
John C. Dvorak: more recently
met three points if you're an

1227
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,430
NBA player, right exact same
gesture. Yeah, that's true.

1228
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,340
Adam Curry: Let me see I had
something else here. It was that

1229
01:15:44,340 --> 01:15:46,380
there was something else that
had changed. That was really

1230
01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:51,450
odd. Well, we know about the we
know about the Washington

1231
01:15:51,450 --> 01:15:56,760
Redskins, of course. No, I don't
know. I mean, there's huge

1232
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,780
pressure for them to change the
name again. Yes. Is a new No,

1233
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:02,940
but it's no it's not new.

1234
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,830
John C. Dvorak: I know it's at a
crescendo. They're going to have

1235
01:16:04,830 --> 01:16:07,230
to change the name and I've
already got an insight what's

1236
01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:09,450
going to be there Washington is
going to be changed the

1237
01:16:09,450 --> 01:16:12,870
Washington from the Washington
Redskins, to the Washington

1238
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:13,740
rednecks.

1239
01:16:14,940 --> 01:16:18,930
Adam Curry: I'm all in. I'm all
in. Well, yeah, just as an entre

1240
01:16:18,930 --> 01:16:24,540
mon here's a man on the street
interview in DC about the term

1241
01:16:24,570 --> 01:16:30,060
Redskin and they interviewed two
black Americans and here's their

1242
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:33,870
response to the word Redskin
today on the streets of DC comma

1243
01:16:33,870 --> 01:16:34,290
riscos

1244
01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:37,440
Unknown: fan for life. Even with
the name there's even with a

1245
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:41,850
name. It's offensive. It's a
slur a racial slur. I mean, that

1246
01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:43,680
would be like having a team
called the N word.

1247
01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:48,089
Adam Curry: Is that true? Is
Redskin? equivalent to the N

1248
01:16:48,089 --> 01:16:48,539
word?

1249
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:53,070
John C. Dvorak: More recently, I
guess Yeah, I

1250
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:56,880
Adam Curry: guess I guess. And
this This to me was the clip of

1251
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,760
the week just to see someone
with some sense it's Marcus

1252
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,840
Wiley Of course, I was watching
Fox Sports one as I do my

1253
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,480
afternoons and evenings you
know, catch up on what's going

1254
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,760
on with the new the non game
sports is very interesting now

1255
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:14,970
because there's none so I can
enjoy the talk. And and I'm very

1256
01:17:14,970 --> 01:17:16,260
happy Marcus went off.

1257
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:18,930
John C. Dvorak: You know of all
the things people still do like

1258
01:17:18,930 --> 01:17:22,260
to go out and party when they're
given the opportunity. Um, guys

1259
01:17:22,260 --> 01:17:26,220
sick of sports. It's just like
an I think about it. What are we

1260
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:28,950
give care about these games,
they're dumb. And there

1261
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:32,340
Adam Curry: is you've crossed,
you've crossed the Rubicon, you

1262
01:17:32,340 --> 01:17:34,950
were on the other side, my
friend now you don't care about

1263
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:36,120
sports. Now, you

1264
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,000
John C. Dvorak: know, I cared
about sports at one point, you

1265
01:17:39,060 --> 01:17:45,030
never cared. I care about
football. Football,

1266
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:49,080
Adam Curry: football, and
football. Exactly. So Marcus

1267
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,780
Wiley, of course, I do know him.
He played with the Buffalo

1268
01:17:51,780 --> 01:17:55,260
Bills. It's just a great guy.

1269
01:17:55,890 --> 01:17:58,320
To talk it out of my ass, I have
no idea what I'm talking about.

1270
01:17:59,790 --> 01:18:04,980
But he, he decides, of course,
to be political, and talk about

1271
01:18:05,490 --> 01:18:10,440
Black Lives Matter. And he did.
And this would have been great

1272
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:13,140
if anyone did it. But the way he
did it, he's took the mission

1273
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:17,490
statement of Black Lives Matter,
Inc. So the people who are

1274
01:18:17,490 --> 01:18:20,490
making 10s, if not hundreds of
millions of dollars, and really

1275
01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:24,750
only putting eight, six to 8%
towards whatever the cause is.

1276
01:18:25,290 --> 01:18:28,350
And it was very poignant what he
said, and it comes right back

1277
01:18:28,350 --> 01:18:34,380
down to the real issue, which is
families without dads.

1278
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:36,990
It's an interesting play right
here. I don't know how many

1279
01:18:36,990 --> 01:18:40,260
people really look into the
mission statement of Black Lives

1280
01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:43,290
Matter. But I did. And when you
look into it, there's a couple

1281
01:18:43,290 --> 01:18:47,160
things that jumped out to me,
and I'm a black man who's been

1282
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,940
black, and my life has mattered
since 1974. And then this

1283
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:55,110
organisation was founded in
2013. I'm proud of you. But I've

1284
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:59,190
been fighting this fight for me
and for others a lot longer. Two

1285
01:18:59,190 --> 01:19:03,690
things. My family structure is
so vital, important to me, not

1286
01:19:03,690 --> 01:19:06,270
only the one I grew up in, but
the one I'm trying to create

1287
01:19:06,270 --> 01:19:09,900
right now. Being a father and a
husband. That's my mission in

1288
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:14,100
life right now. How do I
reconcile that what I just told

1289
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:18,270
you with this mission statement
that says, quote, we dismantle

1290
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:22,290
the patriarchal practice, we
disrupt the Western prescribed

1291
01:19:22,290 --> 01:19:24,780
nuclear family structure
requirements. When I know

1292
01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:27,840
statistics, when I know my
reality forgive statistics, I

1293
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,480
knew this before I even went to
Columbia and saw these same

1294
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:33,360
statistics that I'm going to
read to you right now. That

1295
01:19:33,390 --> 01:19:37,470
children from single parent
homes versus two parent homes to

1296
01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:40,770
children from the single parent
homes. This is in 1995. I was

1297
01:19:40,770 --> 01:19:43,620
reading this five times more
likely to commit suicide six

1298
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:45,900
times more likely to be in
poverty, nine times more likely

1299
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:48,210
to drop out of high school 10
times more likely to abuse

1300
01:19:48,270 --> 01:19:51,600
chemical substances, 14 times
more likely to commit right 20

1301
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,720
times more likely to end up in
prison and 32 times more likely

1302
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,960
to run away from home. I knew
that you know why I knew it.

1303
01:19:58,170 --> 01:20:00,780
Because a lot of my friends
didn't have fun Only structures

1304
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:05,760
that were nuclear like mine. And
they found themselves outside of

1305
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,870
their dreams and goals and
aspirations. So when I see that

1306
01:20:10,140 --> 01:20:13,950
all as a mission statement for
black lives matter, it makes me

1307
01:20:13,950 --> 01:20:17,730
scratch my head, when I also see
their mission is to eradicate

1308
01:20:17,730 --> 01:20:23,190
white supremacy. And 2020. White
supremacy is the mission. Whoa,

1309
01:20:23,190 --> 01:20:25,860
that's a lot of digging through
minutia right there. I am on a

1310
01:20:25,860 --> 01:20:29,370
show that I'm hosting along with
another black guy who is hosting

1311
01:20:29,370 --> 01:20:32,400
Whitney, who replaced another
black guy. And that's just one

1312
01:20:32,430 --> 01:20:36,330
example of it. So I understand I
respect your space. I respect

1313
01:20:36,330 --> 01:20:39,600
what you're protesting for. But
will you respect others who

1314
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,860
don't support that same

1315
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:44,610
protest? I think that's right.
He's spot on with that

1316
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:52,260
spot on. And all this hetero.
Patriarchy dismantling the

1317
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:56,160
patriarchy is in fact, if
they're really doing it, and I

1318
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,960
think they're trying is very
destructive. You take away the

1319
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,290
patriarch, you can't take away
the matriarchy, either. Both are

1320
01:21:04,290 --> 01:21:05,220
kind of needed.

1321
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:09,030
John C. Dvorak: No, not if you
read the revolution,

1322
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:13,140
abolitionist movement commentary
where they say gender roles have

1323
01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:14,160
got to go.

1324
01:21:15,420 --> 01:21:18,300
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just
not That's not normal. Before we

1325
01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:19,860
take a break, I took the test.
That's

1326
01:21:20,250 --> 01:21:21,840
John C. Dvorak: not normal. Good
inclusion.

1327
01:21:21,870 --> 01:21:23,730
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's not
normal, where you've got

1328
01:21:23,730 --> 01:21:27,750
nothing. Just not that. Yes, I
dismissed it out. It's not

1329
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:29,520
normal. It's not normal.

1330
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:32,820
John C. Dvorak: And I wanted to
do your hetero normative.

1331
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Adam Curry: I'm sis hetero
normative.

1332
01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:37,200
John C. Dvorak: Sis hetero
normative.

1333
01:21:37,230 --> 01:21:39,120
Adam Curry: I would like to take
a little test with you. I did it

1334
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,380
this morning. And I have my
results. So I will share those

1335
01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:47,820
by I think it'd be fun. If you
and I can take the test how to

1336
01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:50,850
tell if you have white
fragility. This is of course

1337
01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:55,140
based on the robin D'Angelo
book. And I think you'll get a

1338
01:21:55,140 --> 01:21:57,540
kick out of the questions as
much as you will out of the

1339
01:21:57,540 --> 01:22:01,560
analysis for you. Would you like
to play? It's only four

1340
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:02,130
questions?

1341
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,530
John C. Dvorak: No, I wouldn't.
I think this is an insult to my

1342
01:22:04,530 --> 01:22:08,550
manhood. But go ahead. I will
sit I will. I will. I will put

1343
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:10,170
up I will tolerate this.

1344
01:22:11,070 --> 01:22:14,730
Adam Curry: Thank you. I
understand it is it is not easy

1345
01:22:14,730 --> 01:22:18,780
to do. Here we go. Question
number one. Which of these

1346
01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:22,740
feelings have you had? When
someone has suggested that

1347
01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:27,600
something you've said or done?
Might be racist? And you can

1348
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,020
check all that apply? So I will
mention them if you want it? I

1349
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:34,560
will. I will click the box. So
again, which of these feelings

1350
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,560
if you had when someone has
suggested that something you've

1351
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,650
said or done might be racist?
singled out?

1352
01:22:42,420 --> 01:22:46,650
Guilty. Or you want to do one by
one singled out No. No. No.

1353
01:22:46,710 --> 01:22:59,160
Guilty? judged. No. Scared. No
attacked. No shamed. No.

1354
01:23:00,090 --> 01:23:13,770
Accused. No. Outraged now
silenced. No insulted. No.

1355
01:23:16,410 --> 01:23:26,880
Angry? No. Or I've never had any
of these feelings. No. John, if

1356
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,350
you're not going to play then
don't

1357
01:23:28,380 --> 01:23:30,900
John C. Dvorak: know I played.
I've never had any of those

1358
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:34,230
feelings. That's I can say no to
that because I've had those

1359
01:23:34,230 --> 01:23:36,150
feelings but not in that
context.

1360
01:23:36,660 --> 01:23:39,510
Adam Curry: Okay, we'll go to
next we'll just Oh, you must

1361
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:44,280
answer the question. I didn't
know we'll have to have you have

1362
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,800
to select one at least. How's
this break?

1363
01:23:47,370 --> 01:23:49,230
John C. Dvorak: Well, in other
words, every time you select

1364
01:23:49,230 --> 01:23:53,280
one, then you're already given a
point against Oh, wait. I can't

1365
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,190
select him. I would be dishonest
with myself.

1366
01:23:56,250 --> 01:23:59,460
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, I've
never had any of these feelings

1367
01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:02,280
as it pertains to this is
probably what they mean. So I

1368
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,590
will select that for you. Next.

1369
01:24:05,130 --> 01:24:09,690
John C. Dvorak: Oh, I see. Now
you're a mind reader. I grow go

1370
01:24:09,690 --> 01:24:09,960
on.

1371
01:24:10,140 --> 01:24:12,810
Adam Curry: This used to this
used to be fun when we did this.

1372
01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:15,900
And for some reason you've
become a grouch about it used to

1373
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:16,380
be we could

1374
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,650
John C. Dvorak: not I'm doing
I'm giving you my honest answers

1375
01:24:19,650 --> 01:24:20,310
cheese.

1376
01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:24,060
Adam Curry: How have you
responded when someone has

1377
01:24:24,060 --> 01:24:27,780
suggested that sometimes you
said or that something you said

1378
01:24:27,780 --> 01:24:31,650
or done might be racist? Again,
is the same as the first

1379
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:33,570
question. Oh, no, no, no, this
is different.

1380
01:24:34,410 --> 01:24:36,330
John C. Dvorak: I guess I don't
see it. Well, there's

1381
01:24:36,330 --> 01:24:39,960
Adam Curry: different answers.
So how have you responded? Not

1382
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,810
how you feel? How did you
respond when someone has

1383
01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:46,080
suggested that something you
said or done might be racist?

1384
01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:50,490
Did you respond by crying? Yeah,
yes.

1385
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:54,720
John C. Dvorak: I'm just getting
there. You can say no to that.

1386
01:24:56,250 --> 01:24:58,620
responded by crying but I
couldn't imagine somebody doing

1387
01:24:58,620 --> 01:24:59,970
that. Which makes it funny.

1388
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,890
Adam Curry: Did you focus on
your intentions?

1389
01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:07,199
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry, what
does that even mean?

1390
01:25:07,230 --> 01:25:09,810
Adam Curry: So if someone has
suggested that you said or done

1391
01:25:09,810 --> 01:25:12,810
something that might be racist,
do then focus on the intent you

1392
01:25:12,810 --> 01:25:14,280
had, I guess is what they mean.

1393
01:25:14,999 --> 01:25:15,899
John C. Dvorak: I had to

1394
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:19,920
Adam Curry: leave that blank.
Did you argue? Would you have

1395
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:25,920
argued it? Yeah,

1396
01:25:26,370 --> 01:25:30,690
we have won. Would you have
denied it? No. Would you have

1397
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,830
emotionally withdrawn? Yeah.
Would you just have avoided it

1398
01:25:34,830 --> 01:25:36,450
altogether? what the person
said?

1399
01:25:38,010 --> 01:25:40,770
John C. Dvorak: No, I can't is
to break the premise doesn't

1400
01:25:40,770 --> 01:25:41,520
allow it.

1401
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,440
Adam Curry: Did you physically
leave the room?

1402
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:47,430
John C. Dvorak: Eventually,
okay.

1403
01:25:48,750 --> 01:25:51,120
Adam Curry: Did you seek
absolution?

1404
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,680
From who? The from the person
who accused you, I guess

1405
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,970
John C. Dvorak: doesn't mean
that these questions and answers

1406
01:25:59,970 --> 01:26:00,960
don't make sense.

1407
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:04,590
Adam Curry: Wait until you get
to the end. Okay, so no to that,

1408
01:26:04,590 --> 01:26:07,050
and we'll go to the next
question. We're almost there.

1409
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,930
Which of these statements have
you made when someone has

1410
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:13,590
suggested that something you've
said or Don might be racist? So

1411
01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:15,090
when someone says this to you?

1412
01:26:15,690 --> 01:26:18,390
John C. Dvorak: This this, this
question, here's here's very

1413
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:20,460
topic specific.

1414
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,140
Adam Curry: Let's just run
through it. Yes or No? Have you

1415
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:27,450
said I know people of colour?

1416
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:30,480
John C. Dvorak: I've never said
that.

1417
01:26:30,510 --> 01:26:36,420
Adam Curry: Did you say I
marched in the 60s? Did you say

1418
01:26:36,420 --> 01:26:39,090
that? I marched in the 60s. I'm
not racist. That's the idea,

1419
01:26:39,090 --> 01:26:39,420
John.

1420
01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:42,990
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I will say
that. Yeah. marched in the 60s.

1421
01:26:43,860 --> 01:26:45,420
Adam Curry: That's just your
opinion.

1422
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:48,630
John C. Dvorak: I'd say that.

1423
01:26:49,230 --> 01:26:50,790
Adam Curry: You're playing the
race card.

1424
01:26:52,770 --> 01:26:54,990
John C. Dvorak: Okay, yes. To
that I'm on my mind is

1425
01:26:54,990 --> 01:26:58,800
Adam Curry: you're on a roll
now. You hurt my feelings? Yeah.

1426
01:26:59,790 --> 01:27:07,980
You misunderstood me. No, the
problem is your tone. Yes, yes.

1427
01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:10,530
I thought that was not my
intention.

1428
01:27:12,780 --> 01:27:15,240
John C. Dvorak: But yes, yes.
Okay.

1429
01:27:15,930 --> 01:27:19,320
Adam Curry: The real oppression
is class, or gender or anything

1430
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:22,110
other than race. I'd say you
would say that. I say

1431
01:27:22,140 --> 01:27:24,270
John C. Dvorak: you privately
say that your true. Your true.

1432
01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:26,520
Adam Curry: Your true. That's
true. How about you don't know

1433
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,090
me? That's.

1434
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,670
John C. Dvorak: I could just see
I like that one shoe.

1435
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:32,130
Adam Curry: Have you ever said
that? I don't believe it. You've

1436
01:27:32,130 --> 01:27:34,020
said that. You don't

1437
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:37,650
John C. Dvorak: know me? Okay,

1438
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,680
Adam Curry: they were marketing.
I disagree. No, you probably say

1439
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:47,070
that one. No. No. You are making
me feel guilty. No, I just said

1440
01:27:47,070 --> 01:27:53,100
one little innocent thing. No,
some people find offensive. Find

1441
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:55,230
some people find a fence where
there is none.

1442
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,870
John C. Dvorak: Yes. I can't. It
should have had that question.

1443
01:28:00,870 --> 01:28:04,410
They should have been different.
Should some people find a fence

1444
01:28:04,410 --> 01:28:13,680
when there is none comma
lesbian? Oh my god,

1445
01:28:13,710 --> 01:28:17,340
Adam Curry: you're so perfect.
How about this is a response? I

1446
01:28:17,340 --> 01:28:21,780
can't say anything, right? No, I
would never say and then

1447
01:28:21,780 --> 01:28:24,510
finally. I have suffered too.

1448
01:28:28,740 --> 01:28:30,120
John C. Dvorak: That's a good
line. But now.

1449
01:28:30,929 --> 01:28:34,499
Adam Curry: Alright, last
question. I'm so excited. Okay.

1450
01:28:34,829 --> 01:28:39,059
What beliefs do you hold about
your relationship to racism?

1451
01:28:41,009 --> 01:28:44,399
Good questions about Tell me
about your relationship to

1452
01:28:44,399 --> 01:28:46,019
racism. Here we go

1453
01:28:46,050 --> 01:28:48,930
John C. Dvorak: as what is this?
This is psycho stuff. Wait

1454
01:28:48,930 --> 01:28:52,020
Adam Curry: for it. I am free of
racism.

1455
01:28:54,570 --> 01:28:56,550
So yes or no, no.

1456
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:02,580
Racism is intentional. I only
have good intentions. No. I am a

1457
01:29:02,580 --> 01:29:06,360
good person, so I can't be
racist. I wouldn't say that

1458
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:10,320
racism is conscious bias. I am
not biassed, so I am not racist.

1459
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,920
I wouldn't say that either. I
have friends of colour so I

1460
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,540
can't be racist. That's a dumb
answer. Racism is a simple

1461
01:29:18,540 --> 01:29:21,000
problem. People just need to
open their minds.

1462
01:29:22,380 --> 01:29:23,640
John C. Dvorak: I don't know
what that means. I don't even

1463
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:24,510
know what that means.

1464
01:29:24,540 --> 01:29:27,030
Adam Curry: Anyone who thinks
I'm a racist has misunderstood

1465
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:27,360
me.

1466
01:29:30,330 --> 01:29:31,380
Unknown: No, I wouldn't say that

1467
01:29:31,410 --> 01:29:34,230
Adam Curry: I am the best judge
of whether racism has occurred.

1468
01:29:35,940 --> 01:29:39,630
No, I have suffered and faced
barriers. So I do not have

1469
01:29:39,630 --> 01:29:44,760
racial privilege. Who says that?
It's unkind says that it's

1470
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:50,280
unkind to point out racism. Who
says that? I was

1471
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,650
John C. Dvorak: liking that one.
No. Yeah, but you've never said

1472
01:29:52,650 --> 01:29:54,090
it. No, of course.

1473
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,960
Adam Curry: It's a good answer.
I'm almost there. I was taught

1474
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,520
to treat everyone the same.

1475
01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:06,480
John C. Dvorak: I take it I
would say, give that a yes.

1476
01:30:06,990 --> 01:30:10,200
Adam Curry: There is no problem.
Society is fine the way it is.

1477
01:30:10,710 --> 01:30:11,310
Hitler.

1478
01:30:13,410 --> 01:30:14,490
John C. Dvorak: Obviously
yesterday

1479
01:30:16,170 --> 01:30:18,330
Adam Curry: my worldview is
objective.

1480
01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:23,220
Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Okay.
All right, we're done.

1481
01:30:24,510 --> 01:30:29,610
I probably should have told you
upfront that this is a poll

1482
01:30:29,610 --> 01:30:33,930
which is done by Beacon Press.
Beacon Press is the publisher of

1483
01:30:33,930 --> 01:30:40,410
the book. The publisher of the
book has done this poll. And I

1484
01:30:40,410 --> 01:30:45,030
shall read to you your analysis
and recommendation. Here we go.

1485
01:30:45,330 --> 01:30:49,020
Don't worry. You scored between
11 and 19. You have white

1486
01:30:49,020 --> 01:30:52,590
fragility, but we all have to
some degree. This quiz has

1487
01:30:52,590 --> 01:30:55,530
helped you identify underlying
assumptions that you hold about

1488
01:30:55,530 --> 01:30:59,310
race that engendered these
feelings, behaviours and claims

1489
01:30:59,310 --> 01:31:02,790
you make when confronted? What
can you do now? Well, you should

1490
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:06,300
read Robin de Angelos white
fragility Why is it so hard for

1491
01:31:06,300 --> 01:31:09,810
white people to talk about
racism to learn what you can do

1492
01:31:09,810 --> 01:31:16,770
to engage more constructively
it's a fucking ad for a piece of

1493
01:31:16,770 --> 01:31:20,220
crap book by a dumb lady.

1494
01:31:21,810 --> 01:31:23,100
Can you believe this?

1495
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:26,910
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I can
believe it's marketing.

1496
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,480
Adam Curry: Oh, but that but
that is that you don't do that

1497
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:35,580
with a book that is like,
supposed to be revolutionary.

1498
01:31:35,610 --> 01:31:38,820
These questions. It's a setup.
It's just like the whole woman

1499
01:31:38,820 --> 01:31:40,710
herself. She's setting everybody
up.

1500
01:31:42,270 --> 01:31:44,040
John C. Dvorak: Well, if people
are stupid enough to give her

1501
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,520
money, what are you gonna do? By
the way, I got a good thing

1502
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:47,940
going.

1503
01:31:47,970 --> 01:31:52,380
Adam Curry: I got the exact same
advice I think. I think that

1504
01:31:52,380 --> 01:31:56,790
everyone gets to say, I doubt it
actually goes Oh, hold on.

1505
01:31:58,230 --> 01:32:00,810
We've got a racist we've got a
racist we've tracked your IP

1506
01:32:00,810 --> 01:32:02,730
address we are coming to see you
now.

1507
01:32:04,830 --> 01:32:09,120
It's it's it's so demeaning of
the topic that she is already

1508
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:14,550
demeaning with idiocy. That's
just crazy. And it's all over

1509
01:32:14,580 --> 01:32:19,950
this this thing is everywhere.
Everyone's taking it that why

1510
01:32:19,980 --> 01:32:23,970
because they need because they
want the same standard response,

1511
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:29,160
of course. And we're gonna nutty
world, or whatever I said the

1512
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:33,690
other the other day, when I say
something better than that is

1513
01:32:33,870 --> 01:32:36,240
it's just I don't know, whatever
it is. But with that, I'd like

1514
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,310
to thank you for your courage
and say in the morning to you

1515
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:42,060
the man who put the sea in sis
hetero patriarchy, the one and

1516
01:32:42,060 --> 01:32:46,290
only the white, fragile. Jhansi,
Dvorak,

1517
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:50,340
John C. Dvorak: Glandon Morion
new Mr. Adam curry in the dress

1518
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:53,190
in Memorial ships to see
boosting graphene, the substance

1519
01:32:53,190 --> 01:32:54,630
of water, all the names and
nights out there

1520
01:32:54,660 --> 01:32:56,820
Adam Curry: and a big ass in the
morning to the trolls and the

1521
01:32:56,820 --> 01:33:00,630
troll room at no agenda
stream.com where we always are

1522
01:33:00,630 --> 01:33:03,660
hanging out together. Well, not
always me. But everyone's in

1523
01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:07,590
there. And we're listening to
the no agenda show live on

1524
01:33:07,590 --> 01:33:11,280
Sundays and Thursdays. But
there's lots of shows that are

1525
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,180
live. It's 24/7. And you
basically listen to some cool

1526
01:33:15,180 --> 01:33:18,810
shows, no advertising. It's all
good. It's all fun. And when

1527
01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:21,990
you're in there, please ask
somebody you can ask Doug, who

1528
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:26,220
runs the troll room? He's the
head drug dog for a for an

1529
01:33:26,220 --> 01:33:29,790
invite to no agenda social. No
agenda. social.com is our

1530
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:33,000
federated private. Well, it's
private, but it's open and

1531
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,000
federated for the rest of the
federated social network on the

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01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,270
internet, which rides underneath
all of the mainstream social

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01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:43,980
media the noise is much better,
much lower to the signal there

1534
01:33:43,980 --> 01:33:48,150
than it is anywhere else. And
that is no agenda social.com And

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01:33:48,150 --> 01:33:54,030
in the morning to our artist,
for episode see was that

1536
01:33:54,360 --> 01:34:02,670
1256 1256 We titled it white
tears? Can you do D a sense the

1537
01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:08,670
theme these days? And this
artwork was immediately claimed

1538
01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:13,950
as a possible name for a new
Texas sports team as Darren

1539
01:34:13,950 --> 01:34:18,870
O'Neal came around again with
another winning piece of art for

1540
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:22,140
the Texas surge, which seriously
a lot of people thought that

1541
01:34:22,140 --> 01:34:23,730
would be a great sports team
name.

1542
01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:26,460
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, especially
it's already got the logo. Yeah,

1543
01:34:26,490 --> 01:34:29,160
it's got a logo, all with a
cowboy hat

1544
01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:33,180
Adam Curry: on them on a map of
Texas. It is what this is. Well,

1545
01:34:33,210 --> 01:34:37,440
you said it you said at this
time. You said it really pops

1546
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,910
and it does now there was some
that voice exact voice that's

1547
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:46,140
right. There were some troubles
with the artwork and I wanted to

1548
01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:48,420
know if comic strip blogger is
okay.

1549
01:34:49,980 --> 01:34:52,710
He was doing porn stuff
basically.

1550
01:34:54,510 --> 01:34:57,300
John C. Dvorak: Did you miss
sending us a message?

1551
01:34:57,330 --> 01:35:01,740
Adam Curry: I don't know what it
is. Oh, and by way, swastikas on

1552
01:35:01,740 --> 01:35:06,240
art. Yeah, we're probably not
going to post that. Just Just so

1553
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:10,830
you know. It's not really
considered a great idea.

1554
01:35:11,369 --> 01:35:13,229
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, and it
won't even get published in

1555
01:35:13,229 --> 01:35:14,129
Germany, we'll get it.

1556
01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:17,760
Adam Curry: In Germany and this
right? It's illegal

1557
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,950
John C. Dvorak: in Germany
completely for Bolton. We do

1558
01:35:19,950 --> 01:35:22,770
love we have a lot of German
listeners. We love

1559
01:35:22,770 --> 01:35:24,780
Adam Curry: the art that our
artists do. And as part of our

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01:35:24,810 --> 01:35:28,350
value for value network, people
can contribute in so many

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01:35:28,350 --> 01:35:32,730
different ways and this type of
work and now it's like it's

1562
01:35:32,820 --> 01:35:36,930
Darren O'Neill does wins the
competition quite often but he's

1563
01:35:36,930 --> 01:35:40,170
just that good. He's what is he
doing? That other people aren't

1564
01:35:40,170 --> 01:35:43,230
quite figuring out? Or that
they're not what what exactly is

1565
01:35:43,230 --> 01:35:44,910
that thing that he hates?

1566
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,330
John C. Dvorak: Relaxing his
creative energy so he can just

1567
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:51,210
this stuff comes to him I know.
I know exactly what he's doing.

1568
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,740
I can't quite do it myself or
art but natural artist can do

1569
01:35:55,740 --> 01:35:58,170
it. He's kind of a natural
artists who doesn't think so? He

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01:35:58,170 --> 01:36:01,170
doesn't know he's an artist.
Maybe he does. I don't know. I

1571
01:36:01,170 --> 01:36:05,700
want to also credit mountain Jay
for doing the newsletter art

1572
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:10,020
because I have to say I have to
I have to mention something here

1573
01:36:10,020 --> 01:36:14,190
which is that he did a really
funny piece of signing of the

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01:36:14,190 --> 01:36:15,630
Declaration of Independence he

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01:36:16,710 --> 01:36:21,150
Adam Curry: mounted on Jason A
Woman Yes. Oh, yeah. Who you

1576
01:36:21,150 --> 01:36:22,680
just miss gender Thank you.

1577
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:30,780
John C. Dvorak: I miss gendered
I miss a dead named J, quite the

1578
01:36:30,780 --> 01:36:35,370
same sick. She should have
produced that piece without the

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01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:36,150
show number.

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01:36:36,210 --> 01:36:39,870
Adam Curry: Yes, that was the
issue. You can do one with show

1581
01:36:39,870 --> 01:36:42,570
and one. We don't want everyone
doing one with and one without.

1582
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:43,680
But it wouldn't.

1583
01:36:46,740 --> 01:36:51,540
John C. Dvorak: I had to go in
Photoshop and put the proper

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01:36:51,540 --> 01:36:53,190
show no why. So

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01:36:54,300 --> 01:36:57,150
Adam Curry: how did I didn't I
didn't notice anything off? How

1586
01:36:57,150 --> 01:37:00,420
did it look the result?
Flawless? Well, there's

1587
01:37:00,420 --> 01:37:02,070
John C. Dvorak: a couple of
things. There's no shading I

1588
01:37:02,070 --> 01:37:05,460
didn't have I don't have I have
a minimum amount of time I put

1589
01:37:05,490 --> 01:37:11,190
into stuff on Photoshop. And I
didn't give it a shadow than 70

1590
01:37:11,190 --> 01:37:14,310
to show number she had a shadow
and I could have put one on

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01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:16,560
there. But it would have taken
creating another layer and I

1592
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:21,420
didn't want to I didn't need it.
But I had to erase her number

1593
01:37:21,420 --> 01:37:24,570
and then put another one in.
It's it took me 1015 minutes of

1594
01:37:25,170 --> 01:37:29,280
I didn't want us to time I
didn't want to spend so I'm just

1595
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:33,240
going to mention if you have a
really cool piece like that, and

1596
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,510
it was a cool piece. I liked it.
Please

1597
01:37:38,370 --> 01:37:40,290
Adam Curry: do you want doing
with that? Do you think I've

1598
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:41,010
considered doing

1599
01:37:41,010 --> 01:37:43,920
John C. Dvorak: it without
limiting it to that show and

1600
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,750
making it bad? Maybe it's
throwing it over in the

1601
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:48,960
Evergreen pile? Right because
that's an evergreen piece was

1602
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:49,620
very good.

1603
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,830
Adam Curry: So the only the only
funny that maybe just to clarify

1604
01:37:52,830 --> 01:37:58,530
the only time we use show number
art is during the pre stream

1605
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,530
when when we're getting ready
because it's nice to show people

1606
01:38:01,530 --> 01:38:03,960
there's an episode and that's
what you know as we're doing the

1607
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:07,530
Ride of the Valkyries and Cinco
de Mayo that's that's when I

1608
01:38:07,530 --> 01:38:12,780
send that out the bad signal so
there you so there it's good to

1609
01:38:12,780 --> 01:38:15,360
have a number but not for not
for the show's not for the shows

1610
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,430
itself. It's really too bad
because we can never use it

1611
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:17,760
again.

1612
01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:22,320
John C. Dvorak: Right. And but
unless I'm going to go open up

1613
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,950
Photoshop and then take the
number out, which is something

1614
01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:29,190
I'm really not inclined to
clearly do in this case. I was

1615
01:38:29,190 --> 01:38:34,320
inclined to do it because the
piece was so funny. Yeah. So

1616
01:38:34,350 --> 01:38:35,280
thanks. That's rare.

1617
01:38:35,309 --> 01:38:37,169
Adam Curry: Thank you, Darren
O'Neal, and mountain J. J, but

1618
01:38:37,169 --> 01:38:41,309
really mountain J. But really
all of our artists who submitted

1619
01:38:41,309 --> 01:38:44,459
and do not be discouraged. This
stuff gets used for all kinds of

1620
01:38:44,459 --> 01:38:47,249
things, including on hats, mugs,
T shirts, etc. At no agenda

1621
01:38:47,249 --> 01:38:51,089
shop.com where they will cut the
artist in on their sales and

1622
01:38:51,089 --> 01:38:55,079
it's beautiful. And it's no
agenda art generator.com We love

1623
01:38:55,079 --> 01:38:57,539
seeing all the art we love using
it. It makes a big difference.

1624
01:38:57,539 --> 01:39:01,289
People get excited by it, they
click they listen, it helps the

1625
01:39:01,319 --> 01:39:04,289
product. And now let's thank the
people who've supported us with

1626
01:39:04,289 --> 01:39:08,159
the financial donations our
executive and Associate

1627
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:11,939
Executive producers for episode
1257.

1628
01:39:13,500 --> 01:39:15,540
John C. Dvorak: Well, that
begins with servants, the Baron

1629
01:39:15,540 --> 01:39:22,920
of flora Bama or a Bama $500
from Madison, Alabama. And he

1630
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,100
says Hi, John natum. I've been
enjoying the show since the

1631
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:29,280
beginning. Over the years I've
made small donations all I could

1632
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,100
afford at the time that have
added up to knighthood and

1633
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:34,290
beyond with this executive
producer title I've reached my

1634
01:39:34,290 --> 01:39:39,060
first fourth knighthood, in lieu
of this honour. On the first

1635
01:39:39,060 --> 01:39:42,540
anniversary of my barony I want
to give Dame hood to my wife.

1636
01:39:42,570 --> 01:39:46,710
Oh, that's nice with all the
amygdala expanding five and 5am

1637
01:39:46,710 --> 01:39:51,750
news recently. This show has
been a blessing for us. Also mo

1638
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:57,030
fax has been great. My wife's
Dame name is Dame Amber,

1639
01:39:57,210 --> 01:40:00,630
protector of the children. She
has a great passionate to

1640
01:40:00,630 --> 01:40:04,020
protect children no matter the
situation they are in. Wishing

1641
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:07,110
you a Happy Fourth of July
weekend and a great second half

1642
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:11,220
of this crazy year servants
barren of flora,

1643
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,670
Adam Curry: Flora. Excellent.
And we'll see your good Dame

1644
01:40:14,730 --> 01:40:19,380
Amber at the roundtable a little
bit later on the protector of

1645
01:40:19,380 --> 01:40:20,460
children she shall be.

1646
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,720
John C. Dvorak: Sir rod is next
from Amsterdam,

1647
01:40:24,900 --> 01:40:26,460
Adam Curry: Roderick Suraj Sure,

1648
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:33,450
John C. Dvorak: we'll do it
again. $50 in Amsterdam. John

1649
01:40:33,450 --> 01:40:35,790
had been a while showing my
support for the best podcast so

1650
01:40:35,790 --> 01:40:39,210
respect for you both keeping the
quality of the show at this high

1651
01:40:39,210 --> 01:40:43,770
level twice a week. Fantastic.
John sounds a lot better lately.

1652
01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:45,840
Is there a new microphone in the
house?

1653
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:51,030
Adam Curry: No, we upgraded
John's DNA and he's just doing

1654
01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:51,720
much better.

1655
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:54,900
John C. Dvorak: couple shots.
It's okay. It's personally

1656
01:40:55,710 --> 01:40:58,320
Adam Curry: it's actually here's
the interesting thing. It was

1657
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,280
Sir rod Roderick, who turned me
on to clean feed which we've

1658
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,250
been using since the improvement
that's the improvement is clean

1659
01:41:05,250 --> 01:41:09,630
feed so thank you to clean Suraj
there is a very clean feed.

1660
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:15,150
John C. Dvorak: Melton Cuevas in
Noblesville, Indiana 375 bucks

1661
01:41:15,150 --> 01:41:16,710
you sent an email and you

1662
01:41:16,710 --> 01:41:19,350
Adam Curry: haven't I do have it
Okay good.

1663
01:41:19,380 --> 01:41:25,020
John C. Dvorak: I have it right
here somewhere in Independence

1664
01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:27,780
Day morning to you both and a
happy United States of America.

1665
01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:31,320
Happy Birthday the United States
of America. But this donation

1666
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,290
please recognise Okay, I'm gonna
give you the jingles before I

1667
01:41:34,410 --> 01:41:41,670
read this note Okay. Anarchy
goat karma China is asshole good

1668
01:41:41,670 --> 01:41:46,890
try scumbag. I don't know what
that one is. We have this it

1669
01:41:46,890 --> 01:41:49,110
says good try scumbag sweep

1670
01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:52,590
Adam Curry: oh yes we do. Okay,
we have

1671
01:41:53,220 --> 01:41:55,110
John C. Dvorak: if you see
something say something.

1672
01:41:55,559 --> 01:42:01,289
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. And
a foamer Okay, read on gonna jot

1673
01:42:01,290 --> 01:42:03,120
John C. Dvorak: down the commas
should be the Gokarn with jobs

1674
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:03,450
jobs.

1675
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:05,850
Adam Curry: Oh jobs. Okay. Yep,
I'm good.

1676
01:42:06,210 --> 01:42:09,990
John C. Dvorak: Yes for his is
voluptuous and vivacious vixen

1677
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:13,680
of a wife. And he writes with
this donation recognise me as

1678
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:19,290
Baron Zacharias, aka the taxman.
Okay, so he's getting upgraded.

1679
01:42:20,099 --> 01:42:21,959
Adam Curry: Okay, so he is

1680
01:42:23,940 --> 01:42:27,000
but he's going from a sir or
Vikon or do it doesn't really

1681
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,210
matter what he's going to Okay.
I just need

1682
01:42:30,210 --> 01:42:33,300
John C. Dvorak: to request that
sir Sean Conley Vikon of the

1683
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:36,690
Federal Reserve district seven
appoint me as the sheriff and

1684
01:42:36,690 --> 01:42:40,950
Magistrate of all Indiana golf
courses. Were the only masks

1685
01:42:40,950 --> 01:42:47,880
worn our lust, greed, envy and
pride. Golf material as we focus

1686
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,970
on all things Orange Man bad
congressional shenanigans

1687
01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:54,390
continue. Please see the
attached article. The US Senate

1688
01:42:54,390 --> 01:43:00,420
recently led by Flamingo Graham
is working on the earnest act,

1689
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:03,540
eliminating abuse and rampant
neglect of interactive

1690
01:43:03,540 --> 01:43:06,000
technology. Do you know about
this?

1691
01:43:06,030 --> 01:43:08,430
Adam Curry: Yeah, they're trying
to remove encryption. Everyone's

1692
01:43:08,430 --> 01:43:13,380
all GD about but it's not. I'm
sorry. What was his Baron name

1693
01:43:13,380 --> 01:43:13,770
again?

1694
01:43:14,850 --> 01:43:19,980
John C. Dvorak: His Baron name
is going to be Baron Zack. Zack

1695
01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:28,680
as Z ACC HAEUSZZAZ ACC

1696
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:34,560
Adam Curry: HAEU s okay. Yeah.

1697
01:43:34,740 --> 01:43:41,850
John C. Dvorak: AKA women, aka
the tax man. Okay. So there's

1698
01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:45,090
some joke there. I don't know
what it is. He goes on his a

1699
01:43:45,090 --> 01:43:48,540
bipartisan effort to give the
DOJ mo more power to monitor

1700
01:43:48,540 --> 01:43:51,930
private content. It would seem
this this has been going on you

1701
01:43:51,930 --> 01:43:56,070
know, I've witnessed this for
30. Over 30 years, the

1702
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:59,280
government has been trying to
eliminate encryption. This Act

1703
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:04,110
would be more accurately titled
your ft. Your own unconditional

1704
01:44:04,110 --> 01:44:09,480
rice evaporate from existence
daily. His version of the funny

1705
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,900
as always, the truth wants to
come out Graham's office did not

1706
01:44:12,900 --> 01:44:16,890
return requests for comment. But
it previously said his goal here

1707
01:44:16,890 --> 01:44:21,000
is not to outlaw encryption.
That would be a debate for

1708
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:26,250
another day. However, Barr is
sure Yeah, however, Barr who

1709
01:44:26,250 --> 01:44:29,340
would be given a large amount of
power Under the new Act has been

1710
01:44:29,370 --> 01:44:32,760
outspoken about his desire to
force technology companies to a

1711
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:37,290
law allow law enforcement to
bypass encryption does what you

1712
01:44:37,290 --> 01:44:40,740
do, but I just want to hear in
that business. My job easy.

1713
01:44:40,830 --> 01:44:43,470
Adam Curry: Follow this. I just
need to say something to insert

1714
01:44:43,470 --> 01:44:46,530
something. You don't need to be
going crazy. What they're

1715
01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:49,830
talking about is encryption when
it's end to end with some

1716
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:53,580
providers. So that's your apple,
your iOS backup. That's your

1717
01:44:53,580 --> 01:44:58,260
WhatsApp messages. That's you
probably your Google Gmail. You

1718
01:44:58,260 --> 01:45:02,190
can encrypt stuff yourself off
and send messages to people.

1719
01:45:02,220 --> 01:45:07,380
This is about the Silicon Valley
portion of it. OTG go away from

1720
01:45:07,380 --> 01:45:10,710
it. I encrypt email all the
time. No one's gonna stop me.

1721
01:45:10,830 --> 01:45:14,160
Can they crack it? Yeah, maybe.
I mean, who the hell knows it's

1722
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,530
gonna it's certainly going to
slow him down. But there's no

1723
01:45:16,530 --> 01:45:20,670
keys that Apple or Facebook or
anyone else will hand to law

1724
01:45:20,670 --> 01:45:23,940
enforcement. So stop with the
fear mongering. Get off those

1725
01:45:23,940 --> 01:45:27,540
platforms learn to communicate
with something more efficient.

1726
01:45:29,190 --> 01:45:31,950
Thanks for the donation. Really
appreciate it. Nothing

1727
01:45:31,950 --> 01:45:34,620
John C. Dvorak: to see here.
He's right. Move along and wear

1728
01:45:34,620 --> 01:45:35,160
a mask.

1729
01:45:35,879 --> 01:45:37,829
Adam Curry: All right, here's
your jingles man. Is it done?

1730
01:45:37,860 --> 01:45:45,930
John C. Dvorak: That's it. Yeah,
yeah. Oh. Good, dry scumbag.

1731
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:53,700
Unknown: Oh, my God.

1732
01:45:56,610 --> 01:45:59,970
John C. Dvorak: Jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs.

1733
01:46:00,089 --> 01:46:00,989
Let's vote for

1734
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:10,770
onward Nichelle more in Raleigh,
North Carolina. $351 Thanks for

1735
01:46:10,770 --> 01:46:14,370
all that you do. This donation
will complete my name which is

1736
01:46:14,370 --> 01:46:17,820
on the list. I'd like to be
known as dame of the triangle.

1737
01:46:17,820 --> 01:46:20,730
My only request is jobs karma
you got

1738
01:46:20,730 --> 01:46:24,210
Adam Curry: it. dame's deemed to
be today looking forward to

1739
01:46:24,210 --> 01:46:25,980
seeing it the roundtable jobs,

1740
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,550
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
Let's vote.

1741
01:46:36,030 --> 01:46:38,460
John C. Dvorak: Mark Benson
comes up in Lansing Michigan at

1742
01:46:38,460 --> 01:46:44,610
350 bucks. I can pod father and
grumpy old archivist this

1743
01:46:44,610 --> 01:46:49,230
instalment finally makes me
eligible for knighthoods see

1744
01:46:49,230 --> 01:46:51,390
accounting. This is my
celebration of the making my

1745
01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:56,040
54th trip around the sun which I
will complete in July 8. We

1746
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,160
should put them on the birthday
list. Okay, I would like to

1747
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,070
thank you to no agendas not
nearly the best podcasts and

1748
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:05,010
universities the best source of
information and sanity available

1749
01:47:05,010 --> 01:47:09,210
anywhere. Oh, hello. There are
no objections. I would like to

1750
01:47:09,210 --> 01:47:13,680
be knighted, sir Mr. French
fermented fermentation is of

1751
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:18,750
Michigan Mirkwood. I would like
some fresh some fresh and French

1752
01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:23,490
toast. It was blackberries and
mellow Mel at the roundtable

1753
01:47:23,730 --> 01:47:28,860
brother and he may I hear

1754
01:47:28,860 --> 01:47:31,920
Adam Curry: somebody you have to
understand it's very hard to get

1755
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,430
Mel Mel this time of year it's
just not really in the season.

1756
01:47:36,030 --> 01:47:38,430
John C. Dvorak: You can get it
frozen. Come on. We all know

1757
01:47:38,430 --> 01:47:39,090
that's good. We

1758
01:47:39,089 --> 01:47:41,969
Adam Curry: don't serve frozen
crap to our Knights and Dames.

1759
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:42,929
But okay, let's

1760
01:47:42,930 --> 01:47:45,240
John C. Dvorak: see here.
Somebody's getting corn hold

1761
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,190
followed by sounds pretty good.

1762
01:47:48,270 --> 01:47:51,030
Adam Curry: Wants french toast
but wants someone to get corn

1763
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:53,490
hold. Our producers are the
best.

1764
01:47:54,330 --> 01:47:57,300
John C. Dvorak: Sounds pretty
good. And then Great Gig in the

1765
01:47:57,300 --> 01:48:01,020
Yoko Ono and maybe a little day
trading karma.

1766
01:48:01,050 --> 01:48:04,530
Adam Curry: Okay. Do turns 54 On
the ninth just want to make sure

1767
01:48:04,530 --> 01:48:07,500
I wrote it down. Right. Is that
what do you say? Yeah. Okay,

1768
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,900
here you go. And thank you for
your courage mark.

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01:48:09,930 --> 01:48:11,730
Unknown: Someone's getting
cornhole today.

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01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:18,030
Sounds like a recipe for success
to me. Pretty good. Pretty

1771
01:48:18,030 --> 01:48:19,710
Pretty,

1772
01:48:19,740 --> 01:48:32,850
pretty good. You've got karma

1773
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:37,890
John C. Dvorak: Christopher
Hubbard's up next 333 74 from

1774
01:48:37,890 --> 01:48:43,770
Denver, Denver to Denver. I need
some you may die karma or you

1775
01:48:43,770 --> 01:48:47,820
may die bogey bogey ITM from the
hybrid hominid of Denver where a

1776
01:48:47,820 --> 01:48:50,610
noodle girl has gone vigilante
and a small business for

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01:48:50,610 --> 01:48:53,910
cultural appropriation as the
business owner is a white woman

1778
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:59,490
in the shop sells Mexican
blankets. Oh no. I want to thank

1779
01:48:59,490 --> 01:49:02,550
you, gentlemen, for what felt
like a personal favour when Adam

1780
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:05,520
announced that boogie boogie
boogie had been made available

1781
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:11,220
as a jingle as it had not been
available upon my first request.

1782
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:16,200
I was so excited. When I heard
this news. I pumped my fist in

1783
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:22,320
the air like our protest. Okay,
I'm also very pleased with the

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01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:27,300
no agenda tribe a will give no,
no, I'm sorry. I'm also very

1785
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:30,780
pleased with the love shown for
Jimmy Dore as he was one of the

1786
01:49:30,780 --> 01:49:33,330
first voices I heard expose the
extreme hypocrisy of the

1787
01:49:33,330 --> 01:49:37,830
Democratic Party. I hope members
of the no agenda tribe will give

1788
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:43,530
his shows a listen. If for
nothing out more than the

1789
01:49:43,530 --> 01:49:46,140
hilarious impressions of
celebrities and politicians done

1790
01:49:46,140 --> 01:49:50,040
by austenite, Mike McCray, I
really liked his last Thursday's

1791
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,670
what this is a promotion for his
last Thursday's episode because

1792
01:49:54,930 --> 01:49:58,800
because JCD seemed that he was
in his best mood since I first

1793
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,160
started listening after Adams
appearance on Jr ease. You've

1794
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,910
also recently clipped one of my
favourite podcasts is Brett

1795
01:50:05,940 --> 01:50:09,960
Weinstein, who gives excellent
analysis of SARS cov. To through

1796
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,990
his perspective, as an
evolutionary biologist, well

1797
01:50:12,990 --> 01:50:17,280
understand why JCD doesn't love
him. I would love to hear a take

1798
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:22,710
on Dark Horse duo plan from you
all. Thanks again for

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01:50:22,710 --> 01:50:23,700
everything. Okay, you

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01:50:23,700 --> 01:50:25,170
Adam Curry: know what this is?
I'll tell you what the Dark

1801
01:50:25,170 --> 01:50:28,110
Horse duo plan is. It's
everything so I like Brett

1802
01:50:28,110 --> 01:50:31,410
Weinstein's take on everything
up until this point. So in order

1803
01:50:31,410 --> 01:50:36,630
to save the Republic, his idea
is we have a unity ticket. And

1804
01:50:36,630 --> 01:50:41,280
he mentioned specifically than
Admiral and some other guy and

1805
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,400
one would be right of centre
won't be left to centre that

1806
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:48,240
flip a coin. One does presidency
for four years, the other vice

1807
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,240
president and they switch that
one's Vice President. It's a

1808
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:56,400
stupid, idiotic plan completely,
you cannot I mean, we have a

1809
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:01,020
constitution. These things are
arranged in the wants. It's so

1810
01:51:01,020 --> 01:51:03,630
weird. You've got this. You've
got to see him talking about it.

1811
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,980
Everything is so smart. And then
he gets this idea and he's

1812
01:51:07,980 --> 01:51:11,490
really pushing it. He pushed it
on Rogen pushed it on Tucker

1813
01:51:11,490 --> 01:51:16,620
Carlson and he can't explain it
in less than 10 minutes. The

1814
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:20,460
Unity what does it call the
darkness duo? It

1815
01:51:20,460 --> 01:51:22,200
John C. Dvorak: there's two
brothers here. Which one are we

1816
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:22,980
talking about?

1817
01:51:23,820 --> 01:51:28,620
Adam Curry: This is the Brett is
the one from Evergreen. So the

1818
01:51:28,710 --> 01:51:33,300
the high end biologist Peter
Thiel and this was, I think this

1819
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:37,590
is this is the Evergreen guy who
got kicked out of evergreen

1820
01:51:40,410 --> 01:51:41,430
Unknown: All right, yes, dumb.

1821
01:51:42,660 --> 01:51:45,390
Adam Curry: Thanks. And that's
hard to summarise. That's hard.

1822
01:51:45,390 --> 01:51:47,520
Take everybody you might die

1823
01:51:56,130 --> 01:51:59,850
there you go. There's your
burgundy burgundy. You might die

1824
01:51:59,850 --> 01:52:00,900
Thank you very much, Mark.

1825
01:52:01,530 --> 01:52:09,180
John C. Dvorak: John from
Bellevue, Nebraska 333 33. He

1826
01:52:09,180 --> 01:52:15,480
wants jobs comrade China is
asshole. Kim Jong Yom Yom dis

1827
01:52:15,480 --> 01:52:19,920
donations from my son. I wanted
to wish booboo, Elliot Miller

1828
01:52:19,980 --> 01:52:25,110
Kavik a happy 60th birthday. I'm
sure he loves being called boo

1829
01:52:25,110 --> 01:52:29,250
boo by the podcasters. To my
surprise, the only thing he

1830
01:52:29,250 --> 01:52:32,640
wanted for his birthday was a
producer credit ha. Your show

1831
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,430
has been an amazing source of
discussion between us and I

1832
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:38,460
believe it's strengthened our
relationship tremendous les.

1833
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:42,120
Shout out to our friends and
family that helped make this

1834
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,840
donation possible. The following
is his note greetings from

1835
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,690
Bellevue Nebraska. My name is
boo boo when I guess he likes to

1836
01:52:48,690 --> 01:52:58,320
name please de douche me. You've
been de deuced Hey booboo. I

1837
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,230
will be 16 years old. I'm
currently working on becoming a

1838
01:53:01,230 --> 01:53:04,080
plumber. Thanks to my school's
dual enrollment opportunities.

1839
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,410
That's good. Yeah. I ever since
my dad he hit me in the mouth.

1840
01:53:07,410 --> 01:53:11,130
I've been listening on and off
and I am proud to be a Zoomer

1841
01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:14,550
with an amygdala that is
reasonably sized. Don't forget

1842
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:18,600
that cake is a lie and we are
138

1843
01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:22,140
Adam Curry: I think we just got
trolled somehow, I'm not sure

1844
01:53:22,140 --> 01:53:23,640
exactly what the kid is saying.

1845
01:53:24,270 --> 01:53:25,230
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, whatever.

1846
01:53:26,460 --> 01:53:29,310
Adam Curry: Excellent, booboo.
Well, we're very nice to have

1847
01:53:29,310 --> 01:53:29,700
you here.

1848
01:53:30,990 --> 01:53:34,530
Unknown: Kim Jong Yong Yong, Kim
Jong Yong Yong Kim Jong Yong

1849
01:53:34,530 --> 01:53:38,550
Yong. You've got karma

1850
01:53:40,260 --> 01:53:45,270
John C. Dvorak: we continue with
this 333 dot 33 Crazy with Mr. E

1851
01:53:45,270 --> 01:53:51,420
in San Jose, California. Also
send an email to John with a

1852
01:53:51,420 --> 01:53:56,910
subject donation 333 Mr. E mail
listeners since day one with a

1853
01:53:57,270 --> 01:54:01,560
period overboard that coincided
with the worst few years of my

1854
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,920
life coincidence I think not
just donation takes me to

1855
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:08,370
knighthood please don't me sir.
II of Silicon Valley the long

1856
01:54:08,370 --> 01:54:12,120
awaited dissertation war and
peace that is all thank you

1857
01:54:12,150 --> 01:54:15,690
jingle requests shadow puppet
theatre Keep up the good work

1858
01:54:15,690 --> 01:54:20,370
side he who shall be sir II of
Silicon Valley that is

1859
01:54:20,370 --> 01:54:24,930
Adam Curry: so short to shadow
and we'll see you at the

1860
01:54:24,930 --> 01:54:26,400
roundtable Thank you mister eat.

1861
01:54:27,480 --> 01:54:30,840
John C. Dvorak: Sir fish in
Missoula, Montana. Three again

1862
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:36,690
330 3.33 3.33. Sir fish there's
been time for me to finalise my

1863
01:54:36,690 --> 01:54:39,390
Baron hood. This 333 puts me
over the top I'm faithful

1864
01:54:39,390 --> 01:54:42,690
listener says number one and a
Dvorak fan since his computer

1865
01:54:42,690 --> 01:54:47,190
Chronicles visits. Being a
retired aquatic biologist I

1866
01:54:47,190 --> 01:54:50,730
figured Baron von fish
protective of our of our slimy

1867
01:54:50,730 --> 01:54:56,220
friends sounded good. However,
in light of the fact that my

1868
01:54:56,220 --> 01:55:02,400
spouse of 42 years still refuses
to listen And refers to the show

1869
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:10,350
as quote, your stupid radio
programme. Unquote. I think

1870
01:55:10,350 --> 01:55:13,590
Veron fun stupid is more
appropriate.

1871
01:55:13,980 --> 01:55:17,220
Adam Curry: A Baron was stupid
if she

1872
01:55:17,220 --> 01:55:20,550
John C. Dvorak: knew she had
donated over $3,000 It would

1873
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:27,990
mean Baron Baron Vaughn stupid
divorced this just in from July

1874
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:34,740
11 2020 Yeah July 11. So he says
that's what gives Layne Maxwell

1875
01:55:34,740 --> 01:55:39,750
is COVID-19 positive incentives
the hospital not jail all saw

1876
01:55:39,750 --> 01:55:42,810
this through a crack in the
matrix on Facebook I was removed

1877
01:55:42,810 --> 01:55:47,400
immediately gone now back next
week Baron Vaughn stupid out all

1878
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,190
Adam Curry: right Baron Vaughn
stupid and won't give you that

1879
01:55:50,190 --> 01:55:53,400
official title in our second
segment today. Thank you baby go

1880
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:58,500
easy on the on the on the Mrs.
Go easy. Definitely don't tell

1881
01:55:58,500 --> 01:56:02,640
her about the donations if she
thinks it's stupid for atheists

1882
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,600
to do it's not even stupid radio
programme. Where's that little

1883
01:56:06,630 --> 01:56:09,900
word? Stupid radio programme.

1884
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:12,720
John C. Dvorak: It's going over
speakers and his voice and must

1885
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:13,320
be radio

1886
01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:14,400
Adam Curry: Thanks sir Sir

1887
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:18,210
John C. Dvorak: Anthony tras
Nick Baron of the Philippines in

1888
01:56:18,210 --> 01:56:23,520
pop popular bluff, Missouri
Poplar Bluff popular popular as

1889
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:29,040
in the tree 333 Even greetings
Anthony trues Nick Baron of the

1890
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:33,240
Philippines I hear I want to do
let you know this donation goes

1891
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:37,560
toward my cottage core goblin
Princess wife's damming, and I

1892
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:41,910
would like the producer to
credit out to Brittany trust in

1893
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:46,740
it. Trust Nick. Okay, by the
way, she requested a respect to

1894
01:56:46,740 --> 01:56:48,030
get it that's a switcheroo. Yes,

1895
01:56:48,030 --> 01:56:49,860
Adam Curry: I'm gonna do I'm
doing it. I'm already on it.

1896
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:55,110
John C. Dvorak: By the way, she
was a respect jingle. She

1897
01:56:55,110 --> 01:56:59,310
requested respect jingle and I
would like a 69 I would want to

1898
01:56:59,310 --> 01:57:06,870
call out dildo and Ballmer as a
douchebag. For you OTG fans out

1899
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:12,990
there. I want to direct you to
sovereign tech SOV ry N. Quote

1900
01:57:12,990 --> 01:57:16,680
the show about how to stay human
and MC amidst all the

1901
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:18,750
technocratic malarkey. Boom.

1902
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:22,710
Adam Curry: That's the tagline
of the show. I don't know the

1903
01:57:22,710 --> 01:57:26,400
show about how to stay human
amidst all the technocratic

1904
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:31,800
malarkey. Are you sure you're
not Moonlighting? Yet the only

1905
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,340
other person I know besides Joe,
Joe Biden uses malarkey. That's

1906
01:57:35,340 --> 01:57:37,080
why JOSEPH BIDEN uses it.

1907
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,350
John C. Dvorak: JOSEPH BIDEN
What am I thinking? Joseph

1908
01:57:40,350 --> 01:57:40,770
Biden,

1909
01:57:41,100 --> 01:57:44,730
Adam Curry: thank you very much
and Britney indeed shall receive

1910
01:57:44,730 --> 01:57:46,200
this and here's what you
requested

1911
01:57:50,460 --> 01:57:54,540
Unknown: DSP I see T 6969.

1912
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,100
Adam Curry: Classic. Okay, you
might as well read the next one

1913
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:01,110
because you're right I don't
have it right. While you're

1914
01:58:01,110 --> 01:58:03,660
John C. Dvorak: doing that I
will read I will go to Associate

1915
01:58:03,660 --> 01:58:07,230
Executive Producer John Robin a
for $244 We have a lot of people

1916
01:58:07,230 --> 01:58:11,550
today on the high end which is
nice ITM and happy us

1917
01:58:11,550 --> 01:58:15,240
Independence Day to you both to
housekeeping up for the front is

1918
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:18,240
244 for 244 years of
independence. That would have

1919
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,810
been a good donation right in
the newsletter would and should

1920
01:58:21,810 --> 01:58:25,950
combine what do 245 Extreme bank
should be combined with my

1921
01:58:25,950 --> 01:58:29,910
regular monthly donation of $100
to bump up to executive producer

1922
01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:33,150
I didn't catch Okay, well,
there's another thing we got to

1923
01:58:33,150 --> 01:58:36,270
deal with. We'll put you up to
executive I didn't catch the

1924
01:58:36,270 --> 01:58:38,850
scheduled payment in time to
stop it and send a single

1925
01:58:38,850 --> 01:58:42,660
donation apologies for any
bookkeeping difficult, isn't it?

1926
01:58:42,660 --> 01:58:46,080
Just a note? Every so often John
remarks during the donation

1927
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,260
segment that he thinks I am a
sir. However, this is not the

1928
01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:53,850
case. Despite exceeding the
threshold for knighthood is

1929
01:58:53,850 --> 01:58:56,400
still not the case. I bet Don't
fret that you have created a

1930
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:59,250
Black Knight through negligence
I simply have not requested a

1931
01:58:59,250 --> 01:59:04,170
knighting until today. So the
fault is entirely mine. I keep

1932
01:59:04,170 --> 01:59:07,500
it simple and request to be
known as Sir John of the Falls

1933
01:59:08,430 --> 01:59:13,080
is an area in Germany, I would
good wine growing area of late.

1934
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,600
I will refrain from upgrading my
title until a future donation

1935
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:23,130
since I have been in lacks in
scoping out a suitable

1936
01:59:23,130 --> 01:59:27,150
protectorate. Could I please get
some test taking goat karma

1937
01:59:27,390 --> 01:59:30,060
since it will hopefully both
prevent the test centre from

1938
01:59:30,330 --> 01:59:34,080
closing down due to COVID and
helped me with the testing

1939
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,640
itself. Keep up the great work.

1940
01:59:35,700 --> 01:59:44,460
Adam Curry: Yes, we have the
good karma. You've got karma. I

1941
01:59:44,460 --> 01:59:49,470
have. I have the note. I believe
this is the note. What have you

1942
01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:53,490
done here you sent you sent the
note Adam below is my message

1943
01:59:53,490 --> 01:59:56,820
for the forthcoming donation for
Sunday show. Please say Adam

1944
01:59:56,820 --> 02:00:01,470
from Austin for anonymity also
WT f what can we do on a local

1945
02:00:01,470 --> 02:00:03,990
level in Austin? How do we turn
the tide message for the show?

1946
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:08,280
Here we go. Adam and John, by
the way, he also has Tourette's

1947
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:11,520
and we are both now considering
that the name Adam could be

1948
02:00:11,550 --> 02:00:16,020
Tourette's prone. Isn't that
interesting? That's your random

1949
02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:19,410
number theory. Adam and John, I
should be at night now, but I'm

1950
02:00:19,410 --> 02:00:23,130
taking some time to come up with
the perfect name suggestions. I

1951
02:00:23,130 --> 02:00:27,510
see request a Kayleigh ISO and
that you mentioned the creepy

1952
02:00:27,510 --> 02:00:31,710
texts from the state of Texas
below and my bilingual response

1953
02:00:32,010 --> 02:00:35,160
any suggestions on pushing back
against this insanity is

1954
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:40,410
welcome. So first in reverse
order, I too have received the

1955
02:00:40,530 --> 02:00:44,880
creepy text even on the OTG
phone the creepy texts pretty

1956
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:49,290
much go You are now in the state
of Texas there is a man that has

1957
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:53,460
any mastering Hi, man and then
and then you get one in Spanish

1958
02:00:54,330 --> 02:00:57,630
as I presumed the same message
and I got two voicemails with

1959
02:00:57,630 --> 02:01:01,980
the same message from a robo
call. However, Adam and Austin,

1960
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replying to these is pretty
useless. There's no human being

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on the other end. There's
nothing you can do about this

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just as welcome. Welcome to the
new normal. And what was the

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other question? Did he wants a
night name suggestion? I don't.

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I mean, is that that's something
that's not something we

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typically take responsibility
for.

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John C. Dvorak: No, we never
take responsibility for it. I

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don't think we should make a
habit of doing so. I mean, I'd

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call him Adam have Tourette's? I
like it. Alright, let's just use

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that

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Adam Curry: atom of Tourette's.
But does that mean he's being

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02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:39,480
knighted today?

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John C. Dvorak: Well, it sounds
like it from the note. Okay,

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then

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Adam Curry: we're going to do
that. I mean, it's the back

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office is busy. A lot going on.
Okay, so we have Adam in Austin.

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And I'm in

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John C. Dvorak: no restart to
instal the latest Windows

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Upgrade. Hold on a second.

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02:02:00,540 --> 02:02:02,640
Adam Curry: Pick a time hope
you're saying no.

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John C. Dvorak: I hope so too.
When I click on this, pick a

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time hold on. I will do it on

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Adam Curry: a good day. All
right. Well, you're resetting

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02:02:15,239 --> 02:02:18,779
your Microsoft. I will go to our
first Associate Executive

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Producer. We have three of them
today. And this is John rubbin.

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A with $244. But let's see what
his note is here in the morning.

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Happy us independence day. Do
you both housekeeping up front

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the 244 for 244 years of
independence should combined

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02:02:37,829 --> 02:02:41,399
should combine with my regular
monthly donation of $100 to bump

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02:02:41,399 --> 02:02:44,069
up to executive producer. I
didn't catch the scheduled

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payment in time to stop it and
send a single donation. Okay, so

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we'll catch you later on that
and list apologies for any but

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that's no one I read all these.
I read I'm sorry. You read all

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02:02:53,099 --> 02:02:57,869
that. I was doing something
else. Baronet sir rogue of the

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taverns. That's the one we get
that Hi, Jonah and Adam Burnett

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02:03:00,749 --> 02:03:04,049
Sirocco, the taverns here and
happy Canada Day and fourth from

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Victoria BC and the prettiest
little city that no one is

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02:03:06,689 --> 02:03:14,039
visiting right now. This is this
is 333.77 Canada Navy and dollar

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02:03:14,039 --> 02:03:16,949
Rhett's for equal credit. So you
will be an executive producer.

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Which is what we do for our
British or UK and our Australian

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02:03:24,209 --> 02:03:26,849
producers Adam to answer your
question that I'm sure already

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02:03:26,849 --> 02:03:30,239
was answered. Yes, Canadians do
shoot off fireworks for Canada

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Day. We really are just
Americans. After all, we

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02:03:34,949 --> 02:03:37,679
wouldn't know when we really are
just America's hat after all.

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Your hat. Have you heard this
expression? Candidates are hat.

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02:03:45,450 --> 02:03:47,280
John C. Dvorak: pleased when
you're in there,

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02:03:47,370 --> 02:03:49,110
Adam Curry: please give the
producer credit for this

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02:03:49,110 --> 02:03:54,930
donation to my daughter Amber as
another. Okay, so what's Amber,

2008
02:03:55,020 --> 02:03:58,890
Amber of the I'll just say Amber
of the taverns, that taverns

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then I guess, Amber of the
taverns as I'm starting her on

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02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:07,560
the road Daenam The show has
been a great mind calmer during

2011
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:11,190
the Rhona lock downs than the
openings, riots and new surge

2012
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whatever that is. It's been an
interesting time. During the

2013
02:04:13,650 --> 02:04:16,590
past 16 weeks of the road I
spent a lot of my newfound free

2014
02:04:16,590 --> 02:04:21,090
time building out an oasis urban
forest garden. Nice. For those

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02:04:21,090 --> 02:04:24,780
interested please check out the
rogues tavern.com Put me in the

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02:04:24,780 --> 02:04:28,050
birthday List for July 7 As I'm
completing 56 trips around the

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02:04:28,050 --> 02:04:30,600
sun this year. I'd like the
following jingles random

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Sharpton. Oh my goodness. Ah,
let's see. This is why it's a

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02:04:35,190 --> 02:04:38,400
problem when I read it because I
have to stop and have to go line

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02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,890
up the jingles. So could you
please read the genius

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John C. Dvorak: to read this to
you and you can take a note.

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02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:47,160
Random Sharpton 6969 which he
played earlier, another random

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02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:53,850
number of curiosity. That is
6969 dudes. That to me is so

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obscure. That happens

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Adam Curry: that happens is very
obscure. Because it's a very And

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John C. Dvorak: then a bogey
bogey again. And then a stereo

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02:05:03,900 --> 02:05:06,930
goat cream karma for everybody
and everyone.

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02:05:07,170 --> 02:05:10,320
Adam Curry: Yes Well we've also
resurrected the goat Creek

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Unknown: ESP IICT 6969 You've
got

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Adam Curry: makes me dizzy that
one does.

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02:05:37,500 --> 02:05:42,000
John C. Dvorak: Last on the list
is Chad Finkbeiner in Highland

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Heights, Ohio. Who just writes
simply, you two are one of the

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02:05:48,030 --> 02:05:53,010
many positive things in my life
right now. Please give me baby

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making karma and jobs karma.
Chad in Cleveland Heights. You

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02:05:56,580 --> 02:05:56,910
bet.

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Adam Curry: And thank you very
much. You bet jobs,

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02:06:01,380 --> 02:06:05,520
John C. Dvorak: jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

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02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:08,610
Karma.

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And that's it. That's her
Executive Associate Executive

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producers for show 1257 Want to
thank each and every one for

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02:06:18,780 --> 02:06:21,420
making the show possible. The
show would not be possible

2042
02:06:21,420 --> 02:06:22,230
without your help.

2043
02:06:22,890 --> 02:06:24,870
Adam Curry: Literally not
possible in Perkins.

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02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:29,460
John C. Dvorak: Not AI not ta
not.

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Adam Curry: Not possible.
Indeed. And we'll think more of

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02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:38,760
you outside of the execs and
associate execs in our second

2047
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,610
segment coming up in just a
little bit. John, you said it

2048
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right, though. Without without
without the this entire model.

2049
02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:48,660
This show would not be making
you imagine taking the white

2050
02:06:48,660 --> 02:06:51,840
fragility test on a mainstream
radio show.

2051
02:06:54,090 --> 02:06:57,060
John C. Dvorak: No, I think if
you want to get fired

2052
02:06:57,090 --> 02:06:59,250
Adam Curry: after question, one
the hotline would be ringing.

2053
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:02,310
Okay. You're done. Goodbye. Just
pick up your check. It's the

2054
02:07:02,310 --> 02:07:06,210
end. Please consider helping us
for our next show. We'll be

2055
02:07:06,210 --> 02:07:08,340
doing it on Thursday. We love
having you here. We'd love the

2056
02:07:08,340 --> 02:07:12,150
participation jingles, clips,
artwork, money, blankets, water.

2057
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Send it to us go to

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Unknown: vora.org/and A That's
right.

2059
02:07:17,820 --> 02:07:20,970
Adam Curry: We've got our nose
to the ground. An eye on the

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02:07:20,970 --> 02:07:21,510
future.

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Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out for yet people in the

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02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:26,370
mouth

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Adam Curry: Yes, yes, yes. Yes.
Do you remember John, who? He

2064
02:07:50,340 --> 02:07:54,180
worked for Airbus? He was up in
Kansas and he lives. I visited

2065
02:07:54,180 --> 02:07:57,780
him on one of the hot pockets
tours, I think. Vaguely at the

2066
02:07:57,780 --> 02:08:03,480
beach but the golf cart dune
buggy orange one if you're not,

2067
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:06,780
Oh, yes. Yeah. Remember, buggy
guy. So he has he has that

2068
02:08:06,780 --> 02:08:12,390
picture of the he probably still
sells those beach dune buggy

2069
02:08:12,450 --> 02:08:15,810
beach dune buggy golf carts. I
should ask him what the URL is.

2070
02:08:16,260 --> 02:08:20,310
So he still has that picture.
And he was I think it was on Oh,

2071
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:24,600
no, it was Facebook and he sent
me a screen capture. Facebook

2072
02:08:24,660 --> 02:08:29,430
tried to do a recognition, a
facial recognition on me. And

2073
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:32,220
guess what picture it chose to
match me with?

2074
02:08:34,050 --> 02:08:36,960
John C. Dvorak: I Bucha, bro,
okay, I don't know what picture

2075
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:37,740
okay, tell me

2076
02:08:37,890 --> 02:08:39,810
Adam Curry: Sigfried of
Siegfried and Roy.

2077
02:08:40,890 --> 02:08:42,420
John C. Dvorak: Oh, that's it
today hair.

2078
02:08:43,950 --> 02:08:46,950
Adam Curry: What is that all
about? Versus the guy is even

2079
02:08:46,950 --> 02:08:48,870
alive? Who's the one that got
eaten?

2080
02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:52,440
John C. Dvorak: This day Roy got
I think Roy died.

2081
02:08:53,820 --> 02:08:56,490
Adam Curry: But they but what
Siegfried gub got eaten didn't

2082
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:59,460
John C. Dvorak: want to know is
Roy wasn't a dark haired guy. I

2083
02:08:59,460 --> 02:09:03,210
don't know. Any of the tiger. He
was the real tiger guy.

2084
02:09:03,509 --> 02:09:10,259
Adam Curry: Or anyway, man
Malphur. It's a I mean, that's

2085
02:09:10,289 --> 02:09:10,499
that's

2086
02:09:11,700 --> 02:09:13,950
John C. Dvorak: good. Not to
worry about getting called out.

2087
02:09:13,950 --> 02:09:18,690
And that's pretty far off. So I
have a copy of the one of the

2088
02:09:18,690 --> 02:09:23,490
Trump ads that floats around the
social network, compared to the

2089
02:09:23,490 --> 02:09:28,620
Biden ad where he's mumbling to
be saying, Yeah, this is more of

2090
02:09:28,620 --> 02:09:32,190
a kind of ad that I expect as a
32nd ad. I don't know if

2091
02:09:32,190 --> 02:09:34,950
anyone's gonna is gonna place it
anywhere but it's already

2092
02:09:34,950 --> 02:09:36,720
floating around and I think it's
kind of funny.

2093
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:41,850
Adam Curry: You have reached the
911 police emergency line due to

2094
02:09:41,850 --> 02:09:45,000
defunding of the police
department. We're sorry, but no

2095
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,910
one is here to take your call.
If you're calling to report a

2096
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:52,980
rape, please press one to report
a murder or press two to report

2097
02:09:53,010 --> 02:09:56,940
a home invasion. Press three for
all other crimes. Leave your

2098
02:09:56,940 --> 02:10:00,480
name and number and someone will
get back to you are estimated

2099
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,990
wait time is currently five
days. Goodbye

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02:10:04,230 --> 02:10:06,090
John C. Dvorak: on Donald J.
Trump and I approved this

2101
02:10:06,090 --> 02:10:06,720
message.

2102
02:10:07,380 --> 02:10:09,600
Adam Curry: The sad thing is
this is kind of actually

2103
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:12,630
happening. It's not even that
far off the mark.

2104
02:10:13,740 --> 02:10:16,710
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. I find it
amusing.

2105
02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:19,740
Adam Curry: Do these do these
really, I have sometimes get the

2106
02:10:19,740 --> 02:10:24,150
idea that a lot of or many of
the commercials are made just

2107
02:10:24,150 --> 02:10:27,930
for social media and hopefully
to have someone play it on on

2108
02:10:27,930 --> 02:10:30,690
television. They're not all
necessarily for television.

2109
02:10:31,259 --> 02:10:34,409
John C. Dvorak: I agree. It's
got to be a horse. They do a lot

2110
02:10:34,409 --> 02:10:37,019
of spitballing on the social
medias,

2111
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:41,580
Adam Curry: balling. Before we
forget, I did want to make

2112
02:10:41,580 --> 02:10:47,940
mention of the climate activist
who posted this. Of course, this

2113
02:10:47,940 --> 02:10:50,640
got lost in the shuffle of
everything that's happening and

2114
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:54,120
all the distraction. You may
have read this on behalf of

2115
02:10:54,210 --> 02:10:58,020
environmentalist I apologise for
the climate scare. Did you hear

2116
02:10:58,020 --> 02:11:03,810
about this? No. Oh, this is so
good. So this is a guy who has

2117
02:11:03,810 --> 02:11:07,650
been a climate. What does he
invite it was an

2118
02:11:07,650 --> 02:11:11,970
environmentalist, but he's an
energy. He's an expert. He's

2119
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been in Congress. The me see
here, energy expert asked by

2120
02:11:17,940 --> 02:11:21,870
Congress to provide objective
expert testimony invited by the

2121
02:11:21,870 --> 02:11:26,370
International Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change IPCC to

2122
02:11:26,370 --> 02:11:30,240
serve as expert reviewer of its
next assessment report. Because

2123
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:32,970
of all this, I feel an
obligation to apologise for how

2124
02:11:32,970 --> 02:11:37,470
badly we environmentalists have
misled the public. And then he

2125
02:11:37,470 --> 02:11:41,250
lists this and it's a great
article. There's like 10 points

2126
02:11:41,250 --> 02:11:44,580
here that he's going to say
these are the actual facts and

2127
02:11:44,580 --> 02:11:48,690
of course this this was
published on Forbes, and they

2128
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:51,960
took it down and then you put it
on medium and I think they took

2129
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,740
it down for medium this guy is
getting the ultimate

2130
02:11:55,740 --> 02:12:00,480
deplatforming Oh, yeah, surprise
me either. Now he says it may

2131
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:03,690
seem strange to me. I may seem
like a strange person to be

2132
02:12:03,690 --> 02:12:06,480
saying all of this. I've been a
climate activists for 20 years

2133
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:08,130
and environmentalist for 30 So

2134
02:12:08,130 --> 02:12:10,950
John C. Dvorak: put it up on
cosmic weenie Yeah, a day

2135
02:12:10,980 --> 02:12:15,900
Adam Curry: for longevity sake.
Exactly. So read his whole post.

2136
02:12:15,930 --> 02:12:18,090
It'll be on the cosmic weenie
also in the show notes. But

2137
02:12:18,090 --> 02:12:20,970
here's what I want to pull out
of it. I feel an obligation to

2138
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apologise, apologise for how
badly we environmentalist have

2139
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:28,230
misled the public. Here are some
facts. Few people no one. Humans

2140
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:34,920
are not causing a sixth mass
extinction. The Amazon is not

2141
02:12:34,980 --> 02:12:38,490
the lungs of the world. Jesus.
This is almost like no agenda

2142
02:12:38,490 --> 02:12:42,090
show run down the aisle, no
agenda stuff. Climate change is

2143
02:12:42,090 --> 02:12:45,600
not making natural desert
disasters worse. By the way, the

2144
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:48,210
guy's not denying climate
change. He just saying this is

2145
02:12:48,210 --> 02:12:51,000
the fear mongering that He's
participated in. He wants to set

2146
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:57,240
the record straight straight.
Fires have declined 25% around

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02:12:57,240 --> 02:13:04,110
the world since 2003. The amount
of land we use for meat

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02:13:05,490 --> 02:13:10,770
humankind's biggest use of land
has declined by an area nearly

2149
02:13:10,770 --> 02:13:18,090
as large as Alaska. The buildup
of wood fuel and more houses

2150
02:13:18,090 --> 02:13:23,100
near forest, not climate change.
Explain why there are more and

2151
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:27,600
more dangerous fires in
Australia and California. Heresy

2152
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:30,510
I say carbon emission cars put

2153
02:13:30,510 --> 02:13:32,430
John C. Dvorak: him down, take
him down.

2154
02:13:33,059 --> 02:13:35,309
Adam Curry: We've got to get rid
of this guy real quick. This is

2155
02:13:35,309 --> 02:13:39,659
fantastic. Carbon emissions are
declining in most rich nations

2156
02:13:39,719 --> 02:13:42,149
and have been declining in
Britain, Germany and France

2157
02:13:42,149 --> 02:13:47,249
since the mid 1970s. Now, here's
one when I read this, I was

2158
02:13:47,369 --> 02:13:51,869
angry at myself for a full day
that I have never brought this

2159
02:13:51,869 --> 02:13:58,829
up on this very show. Here comes
the Netherlands became rich, not

2160
02:13:58,829 --> 02:14:04,109
poor, while adapting to life
below sea level. What a what a

2161
02:14:04,109 --> 02:14:11,129
facepalm. The Netherlands is 80%
of the Netherlands is under sea

2162
02:14:11,129 --> 02:14:15,839
level is under sea literally
under is protected by dikes. So

2163
02:14:15,869 --> 02:14:19,649
Miami what you bitching about? I
think that's the point of what

2164
02:14:19,649 --> 02:14:24,359
he's saying here is kind of the
point. Yeah, Maldives. Now

2165
02:14:24,389 --> 02:14:25,139
figure it out.

2166
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:26,730
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, build a
wall.

2167
02:14:27,450 --> 02:14:31,170
Adam Curry: Until the dike we
produce 25% more food than we

2168
02:14:31,170 --> 02:14:34,200
need and food surpluses will
continue to rise as the world

2169
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:37,950
gets hotter. Habitat loss and
the direct killing of wild

2170
02:14:37,950 --> 02:14:41,340
animals are bigger threats to
species than climate change.

2171
02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:45,270
wood fuel is far worse for
people and wildlife than fossil

2172
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:48,210
fuels. Yeah, wood for fuel is
now considered to have renewable

2173
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:54,270
nut jobs. preventing future
pandemics requires more not less

2174
02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:58,200
industrial architecture. I know
that the above facts will sound

2175
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:01,230
like climate denial. climate
denial is But many too many

2176
02:15:01,230 --> 02:15:06,030
people, but that just shows the
power of climate alarmism. In

2177
02:15:06,030 --> 02:15:09,420
reality, the above listen to
this in reality, the above facts

2178
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:12,390
came from the best available
scientific studies, including

2179
02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:16,500
those conducted by or accepted
by the IPCC, the Food and

2180
02:15:16,500 --> 02:15:19,170
Agriculture Organisation of the
United Nations, the

2181
02:15:19,170 --> 02:15:22,500
International Union for conserve
Conservation of Nature and other

2182
02:15:22,500 --> 02:15:25,440
leading scientific bodies. You
can go ahead and you can go read

2183
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:29,250
it. And this is beautiful. Now,
of course, zero traction, the

2184
02:15:29,250 --> 02:15:33,210
guy he may even be dead for all
we know. I mean, this will never

2185
02:15:33,210 --> 02:15:35,910
get any further than this. But I
thought it was nice to mention,

2186
02:15:35,940 --> 02:15:39,750
I thank him for his courage.
Very courageous. No

2187
02:15:39,750 --> 02:15:41,520
John C. Dvorak: kidding. Very
crazy. Well, then, let's play my

2188
02:15:41,550 --> 02:15:45,810
one and only clip for about
climate science. Here it is. 100

2189
02:15:45,810 --> 02:15:47,760
degrees in Siberia.

2190
02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:54,960
Adam Curry: 100 Oh, 100. Number
100. God,

2191
02:15:55,170 --> 02:15:57,210
John C. Dvorak: let me just ask
you about one other thing we

2192
02:15:57,210 --> 02:15:59,580
mentioned the Arctic Circle
recording its highest

2193
02:15:59,580 --> 02:16:04,470
temperature on record and a
Siberian town. What 100 degrees?

2194
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:06,840
Unknown: Yeah, this was
something that was so bizarre

2195
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:09,150
took me a while to actually
process this. It was in the town

2196
02:16:09,150 --> 02:16:12,720
of Berkeley Eos, which is about
3000 miles east of Moscow up in

2197
02:16:12,720 --> 02:16:16,590
Siberia, which just to give you
some bearing is roughly 1300

2198
02:16:16,590 --> 02:16:20,220
miles farther north than
Fairbanks, Alaska, they hit 100

2199
02:16:20,220 --> 02:16:23,370
degrees on Saturday, which is
the northern most 100 degree

2200
02:16:23,370 --> 02:16:26,400
reading on record, and also the
warmest temperature ever

2201
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:29,430
recorded in the Arctic. So I had
to ask myself, was this legit?

2202
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:33,930
Well, Sunday also hit 95.3
degrees, lending credence to the

2203
02:16:33,930 --> 02:16:37,470
100 degree reading, and a nearby
weather balloon measured 70

2204
02:16:37,470 --> 02:16:40,200
degrees a mile up in the
atmosphere. So when you

2205
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:42,990
extrapolate that down to the
surface, it makes sense. The

2206
02:16:42,990 --> 02:16:44,910
World Meteorological
organisation preliminary

2207
02:16:44,910 --> 02:16:48,450
accepted it. And so I was
shocked to see but yes, it is

2208
02:16:48,450 --> 02:16:51,420
indeed a legitimate reading. And
we have data there going back to

2209
02:16:51,450 --> 02:16:56,310
1885. That's 130 plus years of
data. We've never seen anything

2210
02:16:56,310 --> 02:16:59,490
like this before. And we can't
just say, Hey, this is climate

2211
02:16:59,490 --> 02:17:03,600
change what we can say events
like this made much more likely

2212
02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:06,690
thanks to climate change in one
of the fastest warming regions

2213
02:17:06,690 --> 02:17:07,650
of the entire world.

2214
02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:13,470
Adam Curry: When there you have
it, I have to think about his

2215
02:17:13,470 --> 02:17:20,370
calculation. He said 70 degrees
at 7575. And mile at one mile

2216
02:17:20,370 --> 02:17:26,460
up, because we learned as an as
an aviator, for every 1000 feet,

2217
02:17:26,850 --> 02:17:29,760
you drop one degree in
temperature.

2218
02:17:32,700 --> 02:17:35,670
John C. Dvorak: Then you move by
your calculation for every

2219
02:17:35,670 --> 02:17:38,970
1,000th of a mile. Absolutely.
5000 feet, so it should be minus

2220
02:17:38,970 --> 02:17:40,740
five, it should have been 95. Up
there.

2221
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:43,230
Adam Curry: Okay, so close
enough. All right, that makes

2222
02:17:43,230 --> 02:17:43,560
sense.

2223
02:17:43,679 --> 02:17:48,089
John C. Dvorak: Close enough.
Even close. 7595 is same?

2224
02:17:49,020 --> 02:17:53,850
Adam Curry: No, it's 75 up at a
mile up. So at the surface, it

2225
02:17:53,850 --> 02:17:54,750
could be 95. That

2226
02:17:54,750 --> 02:17:56,910
John C. Dvorak: makes sense. But
you should have dropped one

2227
02:17:56,910 --> 02:18:01,260
degree every 1000 feet every
1000 feet, you go up. Yeah,

2228
02:18:01,290 --> 02:18:03,720
well, you're at the surface and
you go up a mile surface.

2229
02:18:04,350 --> 02:18:05,880
Adam Curry: The surface is 95.

2230
02:18:07,260 --> 02:18:08,880
And then you go up 5000 feet.

2231
02:18:09,719 --> 02:18:12,689
John C. Dvorak: And so you lose
one degree Oh times five.

2232
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:15,570
Adam Curry: Now it must be
degrees Celsius Celsius. So you

2233
02:18:15,570 --> 02:18:18,570
have to do that's okay. Well,
there's just some Hey, Miss,

2234
02:18:18,570 --> 02:18:23,400
don't fly with me. That's the
basic rule here. I'm out of

2235
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:25,680
practice. Pay no attention

2236
02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:27,510
to the pilot who hasn't flown
in?

2237
02:18:28,020 --> 02:18:30,030
John C. Dvorak: I got a clip
here that I think you played on

2238
02:18:30,030 --> 02:18:34,530
the last show. Okay, or I heard
it someplace else. And I think

2239
02:18:34,530 --> 02:18:39,540
you played it on the last show,
okay. And it's bugging me. So I

2240
02:18:39,570 --> 02:18:42,270
said, I'm gonna play this clip
and see if he remembers it play

2241
02:18:42,270 --> 02:18:45,570
because I've heard the clip
before. Is it cute middle Rando

2242
02:18:45,570 --> 02:18:47,550
bells. What? No, I

2243
02:18:47,550 --> 02:18:48,930
Adam Curry: was just guessing
which one it was no, I'm

2244
02:18:48,930 --> 02:18:51,330
John C. Dvorak: sorry. It's the
Nobel scientists bitching and

2245
02:18:51,330 --> 02:18:54,690
moaning about being Yes, you
play down the legend

2246
02:18:54,690 --> 02:18:56,790
Adam Curry: played on the last
show. I don't mind playing

2247
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:59,910
again. It's very good for people
to hear this. And that'll be

2248
02:18:59,910 --> 02:19:03,540
good because we can go straight
into my little Coronavirus

2249
02:19:04,410 --> 02:19:07,410
analysis with an analysis of the
corona from a different

2250
02:19:07,410 --> 02:19:11,400
perspective. So this is a Nobel
scientist. He's on a video call

2251
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:16,980
like a zoom call, which was a no
other Nobel people. We never see

2252
02:19:16,980 --> 02:19:21,180
them. But the it has the badge
and you know, the Nobel society

2253
02:19:21,180 --> 02:19:25,440
badge video is on there. And
he's pretty pretty. He's also

2254
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:27,870
he's a professor at Harvard, and
he's very pissed off.

2255
02:19:27,900 --> 02:19:30,960
John C. Dvorak: No one wants to
share anything. The scientists

2256
02:19:30,990 --> 02:19:35,940
are more panicked and scared of
reality than anybody else. Or

2257
02:19:35,940 --> 02:19:40,230
ghost organisation is like
Linda, Royal Society, the

2258
02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:44,910
National Academy of Science have
been totally silent. I am really

2259
02:19:44,910 --> 02:19:47,220
disappointed. This has got
nothing to do with the politics.

2260
02:19:47,550 --> 02:19:50,940
As a group. Scientists have
favoured the younger generation.

2261
02:19:51,030 --> 02:19:53,670
They should have been a
committee formed either by the

2262
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:58,050
Nobel Foundation by Lindau by
the Royal Society for National

2263
02:19:58,050 --> 02:20:01,440
Academy at the middle of
February when this was coming

2264
02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:04,710
down the road. And we should
have discussed this. Instead, we

2265
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:09,780
let economics and politics
dedicate the science. And for

2266
02:20:09,780 --> 02:20:14,340
me, the worst opposition I got
was from very, very prominent

2267
02:20:14,340 --> 02:20:19,200
scientists, who was so scared
that the non scientists would

2268
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:22,890
break quarantine and infect
them. There was total panic. And

2269
02:20:22,890 --> 02:20:26,610
the fact is, that's almost all
the signs we were hearing, for

2270
02:20:26,610 --> 02:20:29,430
example, from organisations like
the World Health Organisation

2271
02:20:29,610 --> 02:20:33,240
was wrong. We had Facebook
censoring the World Health

2272
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:39,000
Organisation contributes, this
has been a disgraceful situation

2273
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:41,640
for science and I have nothing
to do, we should have been

2274
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:45,660
talking with each other reports
were released, openly shared by

2275
02:20:45,660 --> 02:20:49,890
email, and all I got back was
abuse. And you got to see that

2276
02:20:49,890 --> 02:20:53,940
everything I said, in that first
six weeks was actually true. And

2277
02:20:53,940 --> 02:20:57,630
for political reasons. We as
scientists that have used the

2278
02:20:57,630 --> 02:21:01,830
corrupted, the data had very
clear things to say, Nobody said

2279
02:21:01,830 --> 02:21:05,130
to me, let me check your
numbers. They all just said Stop

2280
02:21:05,130 --> 02:21:08,370
talking like that. That's a
great punch

2281
02:21:08,370 --> 02:21:10,740
line for him. I want to mention,
by the way, that that's a

2282
02:21:10,740 --> 02:21:15,090
generality that he has there
been the scientists being cowed?

2283
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:18,420
is the same thing with the with
global warming

2284
02:21:18,990 --> 02:21:21,810
Adam Curry: study course, it's
the same problem of science,

2285
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:22,740
it's exactly the same

2286
02:21:22,740 --> 02:21:24,300
John C. Dvorak: thing.
Scientists have turned into a

2287
02:21:24,300 --> 02:21:25,560
bunch of weenies.

2288
02:21:26,430 --> 02:21:29,130
Adam Curry: Well, they may also
just be out of options, because

2289
02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:35,400
a lot of signs may have taken a
wrong turn somewhere. And so one

2290
02:21:35,400 --> 02:21:41,700
of our producers sent me an
episode of London real, is it a

2291
02:21:41,700 --> 02:21:46,680
two hour episode of a podcast,
which is long for me, but I was

2292
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:50,910
so enthralled by it, in
particularly, because I think

2293
02:21:50,910 --> 02:21:54,840
that you're the right guy to
talk to about this. This is Zack

2294
02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:59,430
Bush. And he's, he's a doctors
and MD, who was doing cancer

2295
02:21:59,430 --> 02:22:03,270
research. And then he had an Oh,
crap moment. And he said, we're

2296
02:22:03,270 --> 02:22:07,050
doing it all wrong. Every all
the medication we're giving to

2297
02:22:07,050 --> 02:22:10,980
people, this actually, he talks
about two things, the soil of

2298
02:22:10,980 --> 02:22:15,300
the earth ruined by a roundup
ready, and the soil of your gut

2299
02:22:15,330 --> 02:22:18,510
of your body, which is where all
your viruses and all the stuff

2300
02:22:18,510 --> 02:22:22,200
lives, that he says we're
treating incorrectly, because

2301
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:27,180
that is actually where health
comes from his from your own

2302
02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:31,650
process. With with viruses, it's
in your gut, you know, that's

2303
02:22:31,650 --> 02:22:36,300
where your flora. Thank you,
Flora. What is interesting is he

2304
02:22:36,300 --> 02:22:41,880
says that the varying results of
Coronavirus of COVID-19, I

2305
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:45,810
should say the illness that some
people get very sick, some

2306
02:22:45,810 --> 02:22:48,660
people have nothing, some people
just get a drippy nose, some

2307
02:22:48,660 --> 02:22:51,240
people immediately die. I mean
that there's all these different

2308
02:22:51,240 --> 02:22:56,580
variations. And he says it is in
large part just due to the

2309
02:22:56,580 --> 02:23:01,140
health of the human being and
where we've put everybody. And

2310
02:23:01,260 --> 02:23:04,980
I'm not I'm not I didn't I just
pulled some pertinent clips. But

2311
02:23:04,980 --> 02:23:07,650
he goes very deep into look at
you know, our kids are all

2312
02:23:07,650 --> 02:23:11,730
messed up. I mean, we're filled
with pills, and that you can't

2313
02:23:11,730 --> 02:23:14,910
lie about that. And it doesn't
look like the next generation is

2314
02:23:14,910 --> 02:23:18,750
getting any healthier with the
process that we're taking. But

2315
02:23:18,750 --> 02:23:24,990
he also attributes a lot of the
deaths due to air pollution. And

2316
02:23:24,990 --> 02:23:28,890
you were an air pollution
inspector, were you not? Yes, I

2317
02:23:28,890 --> 02:23:34,470
was. So how dangerous is air
pollution in general, to your

2318
02:23:34,470 --> 02:23:35,370
human health?

2319
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:38,010
John C. Dvorak: Well, it's not
as dangerous as it was in the

2320
02:23:38,010 --> 02:23:44,280
1950s. There's a lot there's
some things you breathe that are

2321
02:23:45,150 --> 02:23:49,410
certain kinds of nitrous
compounds, some acids in the

2322
02:23:49,410 --> 02:23:53,640
air, it's I think it's pretty
clean of late. I don't know what

2323
02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:54,420
he's talking about.

2324
02:23:55,410 --> 02:23:57,330
Adam Curry: Well, I'm good.
That's I'm happy that you said

2325
02:23:57,330 --> 02:24:01,080
that because I really don't
know. So we'll start with him.

2326
02:24:01,170 --> 02:24:05,220
And first his premise that well,
the the medical community has

2327
02:24:05,250 --> 02:24:08,730
gone down the wrong path, but
they are complicit in all the

2328
02:24:08,730 --> 02:24:10,380
fear mongering the mentality

2329
02:24:10,410 --> 02:24:13,920
of the science community, and
including myself at that time

2330
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:18,150
was that we are here to stamp
out disease. But the idea of

2331
02:24:18,150 --> 02:24:23,760
health and healing is remote and
feels new agey or somehow like,

2332
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:27,270
you know, fake science. And so
that's an extraordinary mistake

2333
02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:30,480
we made in medical education
over the last 100 years was to

2334
02:24:30,750 --> 02:24:34,230
to forget the opportunity to
create such resilient health

2335
02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:37,230
that we would be resistant to
disease. Instead, we focused all

2336
02:24:37,230 --> 02:24:39,810
of our trillions of dollars of
research and development,

2337
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:43,980
trillions of hours of manpower
research and ingenuity and

2338
02:24:44,010 --> 02:24:47,280
intuition on disease management
instead of health and so the

2339
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:49,530
result is what you see around
you. And so the reason the

2340
02:24:49,530 --> 02:24:53,100
dialogue looks like it is in the
government and the who and the

2341
02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:59,520
CDC and the UK system there you
guys are part of this big

2342
02:24:59,520 --> 02:25:03,720
machine And of fear that we
created as physicians as well.

2343
02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:06,270
And so as physicians and
scientists we have created the

2344
02:25:06,300 --> 02:25:10,560
the the fight against cancer and
the fear of bacterial

2345
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:14,640
infections, the fear of viral
infections, when in fact, none

2346
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:17,700
of that's really underpinned by
the current science, science has

2347
02:25:17,700 --> 02:25:22,560
radically changed in the last 20
years. And it hasn't trickled

2348
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,560
down into the mindset of the
physicians, the scientists, and

2349
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:27,180
especially the clinicians yet.

2350
02:25:27,930 --> 02:25:30,900
So that's just kind of his what
I told you a minute ago, his his

2351
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:34,140
his reasoning behind everything
being wrong, that the science

2352
02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:38,460
has actually changed. We're
learning that your body is in

2353
02:25:38,460 --> 02:25:41,820
fact trying to heal itself. And
we're often giving people things

2354
02:25:41,820 --> 02:25:46,500
that destroy that entire
process. And Heath when I first

2355
02:25:46,500 --> 02:25:51,570
started listening Johnny's are
talking about population

2356
02:25:52,140 --> 02:25:56,190
extinction. And I was like, oh,
not one of these dickheads. But

2357
02:25:56,190 --> 02:25:58,860
he sees it differently. He
thinks that we are actually

2358
02:25:58,860 --> 02:26:04,140
physically dying out due to such
poor health, and that this is

2359
02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:08,280
part of the evolutionary process
that we're almost halfway

2360
02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:12,630
through extinction and people
have to die because they will

2361
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:16,710
not grow strong through this
next upgrade of DNA which he

2362
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:21,180
claims the Coronavirus COVID
night the novel Coronavirus is a

2363
02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:23,460
part of it's kind of mind
blowing,

2364
02:26:23,490 --> 02:26:26,010
I think the power has definitely
been taken away from the

2365
02:26:26,010 --> 02:26:30,120
individual to pursue health. And
so with the marbled halls and

2366
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:33,090
then white coats and
stethoscopes and all the the

2367
02:26:33,090 --> 02:26:37,950
entrapping fancy trappings of
MRI machines and CT scans and

2368
02:26:38,850 --> 02:26:41,370
billions of dollars of
laboratories, we give the

2369
02:26:41,370 --> 02:26:44,400
impression that we know what the
hell is going on. And the

2370
02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:47,220
reality is we have no clue
because we have been going down

2371
02:26:47,220 --> 02:26:51,600
this wrong Avenue vegetation
hands and believing that the

2372
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:56,220
human system is this isolated,
you know, system of that has to

2373
02:26:56,220 --> 02:26:59,160
fight off disease. And most
importantly, it needs an immune

2374
02:26:59,160 --> 02:27:02,400
system kill all micro organisms
around it so that it doesn't

2375
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:05,580
die. So we don't get an
infection. That was the

2376
02:27:05,580 --> 02:27:08,670
mentality that is out there,
both in the physician, the

2377
02:27:08,670 --> 02:27:13,140
scientist and the public still.
And yet we know as of 30 years

2378
02:27:13,140 --> 02:27:17,130
ago that oh my gosh, human can't
survive unless the micro

2379
02:27:17,130 --> 02:27:20,880
organisms within it are thriving
in massive biodiversity. And in

2380
02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:25,140
the last 15 years, it's been
mind blowing to realise that's

2381
02:27:25,140 --> 02:27:29,670
not isolated to our guy. In
fact, we have bacteria, fungi,

2382
02:27:29,790 --> 02:27:33,960
viruses teeming in every single
organ of our body to produce

2383
02:27:33,960 --> 02:27:37,140
health. And in fact, when we
start to slip into disease, the

2384
02:27:37,140 --> 02:27:40,590
microbiome goes into an
adaptation, stress response

2385
02:27:40,590 --> 02:27:43,830
system to try to recover our
health and so

2386
02:27:43,830 --> 02:27:46,740
on. Who doesn't go to a regular
doctor, I'm way into this. I

2387
02:27:46,740 --> 02:27:49,080
don't know if this is hitting
any any buttons for you?

2388
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:50,400
Probably not. I feel.

2389
02:27:52,470 --> 02:27:53,820
John C. Dvorak: No, okay, not

2390
02:27:53,849 --> 02:27:56,219
Adam Curry: here's his, here's
where I think you'll pick it up.

2391
02:27:56,250 --> 02:27:57,870
John C. Dvorak: Here's where
it's not that I haven't heard

2392
02:27:57,870 --> 02:27:59,250
this pitch before. Right?

2393
02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:01,590
Adam Curry: That's exactly, it's
just, it's just an alternative

2394
02:28:01,590 --> 02:28:03,270
pitch. I mean, we're out of it.
And

2395
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:06,000
John C. Dvorak: I say probiotics
stuff, because it's tasty.

2396
02:28:08,130 --> 02:28:11,970
Adam Curry: Flintstone vitamins
cuz they're tasty. I love those,

2397
02:28:12,150 --> 02:28:16,080
the gummies my favourite. So now
he's going to get into how

2398
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:19,380
Roundup is a part of this
problem. And he, he describes

2399
02:28:19,380 --> 02:28:21,960
something very interesting,
which I don't know if this is

2400
02:28:21,960 --> 02:28:26,100
true. But what happens how round
up is helpful and not helpful.

2401
02:28:26,130 --> 02:28:26,460
As it

2402
02:28:26,460 --> 02:28:30,870
turns out, you know, we are so
slow to, to change our

2403
02:28:30,870 --> 02:28:34,500
behaviour, because we keep
seeing in the hospital, for

2404
02:28:34,500 --> 02:28:38,220
example, examples of here's an
infection, if I don't treat that

2405
02:28:38,220 --> 02:28:41,610
infection, this patient is going
to die. And so we forget them to

2406
02:28:41,610 --> 02:28:44,190
back up and say the reason that
patient has an infection is

2407
02:28:44,190 --> 02:28:47,880
because we so damaged the soil
system that there's now we'd

2408
02:28:47,880 --> 02:28:50,550
like growth of a couple of
organisms. And we're going to go

2409
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:53,130
in and try to wipe out the weeds
and the response is going to be

2410
02:28:53,130 --> 02:28:56,730
more and more aggressive weeds
and more and more drug resistant

2411
02:28:56,730 --> 02:28:59,670
weeds. And that's of course,
exactly what I see. Now when I'm

2412
02:28:59,670 --> 02:29:02,430
working with farmers all the
time. Now, in their soil

2413
02:29:02,430 --> 02:29:05,790
systems. When I go out into a
farm on a conventional

2414
02:29:05,880 --> 02:29:09,870
landscape, it's not unusual for
us to see these roundup

2415
02:29:09,900 --> 02:29:13,230
resistant weeds that are taking
over farms that can be the size

2416
02:29:13,230 --> 02:29:17,070
of Christmas trees, these weeds
with like trunk like size

2417
02:29:17,070 --> 02:29:20,400
things, they've been so forced
into this extreme effort to

2418
02:29:20,400 --> 02:29:23,910
recover the biology of this
dying soil system. As soon as

2419
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:27,390
you stop trying to kill them.
One year later, that soil no

2420
02:29:27,390 --> 02:29:31,350
longer has that weed present.
The need for that weed went away

2421
02:29:31,350 --> 02:29:35,310
because the soil began to
recover its ecosystem. And so if

2422
02:29:35,310 --> 02:29:38,760
in our damage control, we need a
moment of antibiotics. We need

2423
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:40,980
to instead of saying now you're
you're better from your

2424
02:29:40,980 --> 02:29:43,950
pneumonia, we need to say we
just made things worse, and

2425
02:29:43,950 --> 02:29:46,260
you're going to come back next
year or in a few months with

2426
02:29:46,260 --> 02:29:48,450
something much worse. And
unfortunately, that may be

2427
02:29:48,450 --> 02:29:51,510
cancer because we just wipe out
your microbiome again.

2428
02:29:53,130 --> 02:29:57,690
I didn't know and I don't know
that it is true. That is later

2429
02:29:57,690 --> 02:30:01,200
on in this show. In the podcast.
He talks about these These weeds

2430
02:30:01,470 --> 02:30:04,140
that have been treated with
Roundup Ready and some of them

2431
02:30:04,650 --> 02:30:08,400
grow as big as Christmas trees.
But then when they stopped using

2432
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:11,670
the roundup within one year,
they were all gone because they

2433
02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:15,180
had no reason to try and fight
anything. So they didn't become

2434
02:30:15,180 --> 02:30:19,260
super weeds, and they just
dissolved into the new soil of

2435
02:30:19,290 --> 02:30:20,070
the Earth.

2436
02:30:20,700 --> 02:30:24,690
It sounds like bullshit. Okay,
we're almost there.

2437
02:30:25,500 --> 02:30:29,130
What, what this is an of course,
he makes a comparison between

2438
02:30:29,130 --> 02:30:32,760
roundup in the soil and the
flora and the soil and your gut,

2439
02:30:32,790 --> 02:30:37,110
your your, your, your the stuff
that supposedly heals you. And

2440
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:41,040
what we're going through right
now in this period is a DNA

2441
02:30:41,070 --> 02:30:41,730
upgrade.

2442
02:30:41,850 --> 02:30:44,340
But it's not to say that people
aren't dying, it is actually to

2443
02:30:44,340 --> 02:30:47,520
say that people are dying and
people are dying related to an

2444
02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:51,120
exposure to a respiratory virus.
There's huge problems with our

2445
02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:55,410
diagnostic tool here. PCR is the
tool that's been useful globally

2446
02:30:55,410 --> 02:30:59,460
to determine if somebody has
COVID or not. And then PCR

2447
02:30:59,460 --> 02:31:02,910
stands for polymerase chain
reaction, it's an amplification

2448
02:31:02,910 --> 02:31:06,570
technique for finding small
amounts of DNA. And is a very

2449
02:31:06,570 --> 02:31:09,600
big dilemma. Because the
presence of that DNA doesn't

2450
02:31:09,600 --> 02:31:12,840
mean you're ever going to get
sick from that virus. Most of us

2451
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:15,300
will have that DNA in our
bloodstream for a period of time

2452
02:31:15,300 --> 02:31:18,840
as we go into our genetic
update. As we're taking this

2453
02:31:18,840 --> 02:31:21,420
virus in, we proliferate the
virus to get it into enough

2454
02:31:21,420 --> 02:31:23,910
cells in the body. And then we
reach homeostasis, where we've

2455
02:31:23,910 --> 02:31:25,950
taken enough that genetic
information that we stopped

2456
02:31:25,950 --> 02:31:30,270
making it. And so are we make
tiny amounts of it. And so that,

2457
02:31:30,300 --> 02:31:33,480
that balance with that DNA has
nothing to do with whether we're

2458
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,720
going to develop disease or not
from again, most people exposed

2459
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:41,280
to COVID were asymptomatic or
mildly symptomatic. And so the

2460
02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:43,980
presence of the DNA has nothing
to do with whether that person

2461
02:31:43,980 --> 02:31:45,630
is going to die in the coming
months.

2462
02:31:47,610 --> 02:31:51,510
Yeah, I mean, it kind of fits in
somehow, because we're not doing

2463
02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:55,320
a traditional vaccine, we're
doing an RNA vaccine, which is,

2464
02:31:55,500 --> 02:31:59,160
in fact, supposed to do
something with your DNA. Is it

2465
02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:03,120
possible that these fuckers are
really just really keeping us

2466
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:07,080
inside? Because they know that
we're about to reach a DNA

2467
02:32:07,110 --> 02:32:11,070
upgrade part of evolution, and
they don't want us to be

2468
02:32:11,070 --> 02:32:12,870
resilient? I'm just guessing.

2469
02:32:14,340 --> 02:32:17,700
John C. Dvorak: What those guys
in Bakersfield said. But since

2470
02:32:17,700 --> 02:32:19,830
you're gonna be playing this,
you should have started this

2471
02:32:19,830 --> 02:32:21,090
with I show. No,

2472
02:32:21,090 --> 02:32:23,190
Adam Curry: I have the last one,
which is the killer. Oh,

2473
02:32:23,220 --> 02:32:26,640
definitely. I got that was the
wrap. No, no, here comes here

2474
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:29,910
comes the air pollution part.
That's why I set you up for it.

2475
02:32:30,840 --> 02:32:31,590
Get ready,

2476
02:32:31,650 --> 02:32:34,200
we need to connect everybody
back to nature as fast as

2477
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:38,100
possible to stop this pandemic
from killing people. And in

2478
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:41,970
fact, we did that by mistake,
and we locked everybody down.

2479
02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:45,960
And the result was we stopped
planes. We stopped all of the

2480
02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:49,080
carbon particulate matter in the
air, we stopped farming, we

2481
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,050
stopped spraying. In fact, there
was an association with the

2482
02:32:52,050 --> 02:32:55,260
pipeline of Roundup from China
being produced in China to the

2483
02:32:55,260 --> 02:32:57,450
United States. And so they
farmers couldn't get their cheap

2484
02:32:57,450 --> 02:32:59,670
glyphosate Roundup, and they had
to stop spraying it and I was

2485
02:32:59,670 --> 02:33:02,370
just like dancing in the streets
was like finally, like, it

2486
02:33:02,370 --> 02:33:05,250
wasn't a science. It wasn't
anything that made this rational

2487
02:33:05,250 --> 02:33:07,980
decision to stop spraying
chemicals into our soil. It was

2488
02:33:07,980 --> 02:33:12,450
actually a false belief and a
virus or a false understanding

2489
02:33:12,450 --> 02:33:16,200
of that virus that led to the
right response, which was stop

2490
02:33:16,200 --> 02:33:19,830
freaking killing the planet for
a moment. And in Hubei province,

2491
02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:22,920
we have the most beautiful
demonstration of this, you Bay

2492
02:33:23,070 --> 02:33:26,970
typically will have 150 to 200
microns of this carbon

2493
02:33:26,970 --> 02:33:31,020
particulate air pollution per
cubic metre. And by the time

2494
02:33:31,020 --> 02:33:34,830
they had been in lockdown for
six weeks, it had gone below 35

2495
02:33:34,830 --> 02:33:39,330
microns. We haven't seen that in
decades in China, that low of

2496
02:33:39,330 --> 02:33:42,480
air pollution counts. And as
soon as it went below 40, the

2497
02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:47,010
mortality from COVID suddenly
stopped and flatlined, and

2498
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:49,260
everybody in the world was
starting was just screaming,

2499
02:33:49,260 --> 02:33:52,230
well, China's lying China's
line, they just start telling us

2500
02:33:52,590 --> 02:33:56,550
the truth anymore. Maybe but I
can tell you there's a very good

2501
02:33:56,550 --> 02:33:59,940
physiologic explanation why
suddenly, the mortality rate

2502
02:33:59,940 --> 02:34:02,670
went so low, just because they
cleaned up the atmosphere

2503
02:34:03,270 --> 02:34:06,750
indirectly. And so with this
next ball coming on, we're going

2504
02:34:06,750 --> 02:34:10,650
to see another surge of all of
the respiratory conditions out

2505
02:34:10,650 --> 02:34:14,490
there from pneumococcal
bacterial pneumonia to COVID, or

2506
02:34:14,490 --> 02:34:16,470
whatever you want to blame it
on. But we're going to see an

2507
02:34:16,470 --> 02:34:20,640
abnormal relationship with
airborne pathogens, again,

2508
02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:24,330
because of the amount of carbon
particulate that starts in the

2509
02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:27,780
second week of November. And
that accumulation of carbon was

2510
02:34:27,780 --> 02:34:29,910
pretty good and the air
throughout the world is the

2511
02:34:29,910 --> 02:34:33,870
result of the silencing of the
soil in fall and winter. When

2512
02:34:33,870 --> 02:34:36,360
the northern hemisphere goes
into its fallen winter state and

2513
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:39,390
stops pulling carbon out of the
atmosphere. We get a rapid

2514
02:34:39,390 --> 02:34:43,290
accumulation of carbon and every
year in the third week of

2515
02:34:43,290 --> 02:34:47,490
November, we say flu season
starts flu season is carbon

2516
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:54,720
toxicity season. That's it. Hi,
era, man. Man.

2517
02:34:55,740 --> 02:35:04,050
Just wanted It really isn't that
it's so believable I so want to

2518
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:05,760
buy into what this guy making
these

2519
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:08,610
John C. Dvorak: like these
errors he's he's conflating when

2520
02:35:08,610 --> 02:35:11,760
he says microns that that is
that refers to the size of a

2521
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:13,530
particle, not the concentration

2522
02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:15,330
Adam Curry: was a computer
company. I don't even know what

2523
02:35:15,330 --> 02:35:16,470
the hell he's talking about.

2524
02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:20,250
John C. Dvorak: And there's
things like that this guy's full

2525
02:35:20,250 --> 02:35:27,630
of shit. But yes, but but since
you played this guy, whoever he

2526
02:35:27,630 --> 02:35:28,020
is

2527
02:35:28,530 --> 02:35:31,410
Adam Curry: Zack Bush, dark MD
Zack Bush

2528
02:35:33,240 --> 02:35:37,890
John C. Dvorak: master of
deception that's play something

2529
02:35:37,890 --> 02:35:42,180
I've been collecting. Oh,
there's a podcaster named

2530
02:35:42,180 --> 02:35:47,220
Veronica Bay. Okay, and she's
like a, she's like a Latin

2531
02:35:47,220 --> 02:35:50,910
exercise. I don't even know what
what she is. But she's got a

2532
02:35:50,940 --> 02:35:54,120
slick operation as a podcast.
And she's kind of like one of

2533
02:35:54,120 --> 02:35:58,680
these female video podcasts on
YouTube. She has a very slick

2534
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:02,760
show. And she kind of fell in
love with this is a black guy

2535
02:36:02,760 --> 02:36:10,800
whose name the young Pharaoh.
And he seems like we used to

2536
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:14,940
call on the 70s a shuck and jive
artist, but he sounds really

2537
02:36:14,940 --> 02:36:17,850
good. And she just thinks he's
the greatest thing ever. So if

2538
02:36:17,850 --> 02:36:21,810
you want to hear some wacky
ideas, we should listen to young

2539
02:36:21,810 --> 02:36:24,360
Pharaoh on the Veronica Bay
show,

2540
02:36:24,630 --> 02:36:28,710
you made a statement. That's
very important. You said it felt

2541
02:36:28,710 --> 02:36:31,080
like it's the end of the world.
And that's because it is. And

2542
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:33,360
the reason I'm saying that is
because people need to

2543
02:36:33,360 --> 02:36:39,210
understand language. Language is
very important. language changes

2544
02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:44,670
according to the agenda of these
people. And so the word world

2545
02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:49,320
used to be age, it was replaced
the word the word age was

2546
02:36:49,320 --> 02:36:52,170
replaced with the word world. So
if you read any religious book,

2547
02:36:52,170 --> 02:36:55,740
or if you read any updated
literary piece of literature, it

2548
02:36:55,740 --> 02:36:58,980
now says world that if you look
at that, and at the same piece

2549
02:36:58,980 --> 02:37:01,470
of literature, whether it be a
religious book, a history book,

2550
02:37:01,470 --> 02:37:05,490
or whatever, before they changed
it, it said age, and that is

2551
02:37:05,490 --> 02:37:10,740
very important. Because ages are
stages, that we exist in

2552
02:37:10,770 --> 02:37:13,560
underneath a certain light
frequency. So for example,

2553
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:17,850
right? Everything you learn in
school was a lie. In order for

2554
02:37:17,880 --> 02:37:20,610
me to tell you this, you have to
accept that. Now one of the

2555
02:37:20,610 --> 02:37:23,850
greatest lies that we've been
told is the format of our solar

2556
02:37:23,850 --> 02:37:28,470
system is not heliocentric, we
are not, you know, in the solar

2557
02:37:28,470 --> 02:37:31,740
system where the sun is here.
And we're revolving around that

2558
02:37:31,740 --> 02:37:35,820
it's a horrible lie. The truth
is, the sun is travelling around

2559
02:37:35,820 --> 02:37:39,360
the galaxy at about 70,000
kilometres per hour, and it's

2560
02:37:39,420 --> 02:37:43,020
cooling the planets behind it.
So we're vortex behind this son,

2561
02:37:43,230 --> 02:37:46,140
sort of the best analogy I can
give you is like when somebody

2562
02:37:46,140 --> 02:37:49,230
gets married, and they have the
CANS on the back of the car, and

2563
02:37:49,230 --> 02:37:53,460
a car is pulling the can, the
sun is pulling the planets. Now

2564
02:37:53,460 --> 02:37:58,500
it takes us approximately
24 $25,000 to travel around our

2565
02:37:58,500 --> 02:38:02,790
galaxy. And so as we travel
around our galaxy, we come into

2566
02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:06,480
different zodiacs. So for those
of you who don't know, the only

2567
02:38:06,480 --> 02:38:09,750
difference between the Zodiac
and a constellation is a

2568
02:38:09,750 --> 02:38:12,480
constellation is a group of
stars that form a particular

2569
02:38:12,480 --> 02:38:15,810
pattern. A Zodiac is a group of
stars that form a particular

2570
02:38:15,810 --> 02:38:20,640
pattern that affects you. Come
on.

2571
02:38:22,290 --> 02:38:23,580
Adam Curry: And this you believe
in?

2572
02:38:24,270 --> 02:38:25,950
John C. Dvorak: Oh, yeah,
absolutely. This guy's on the

2573
02:38:25,950 --> 02:38:29,100
money. You want to play part two
of this? Yes, that guy

2574
02:38:29,130 --> 02:38:31,560
Adam Curry: because it sounds
very important. So I think we

2575
02:38:32,010 --> 02:38:38,040
need to, by the way, she's kind
of odd looking. She looks like a

2576
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:43,170
multi CultI younger version of
Judge Jeanine. With a bigger

2577
02:38:43,170 --> 02:38:43,650
overall

2578
02:38:43,650 --> 02:38:46,050
John C. Dvorak: set. She's Latin
x, or I don't know what Yeah, I

2579
02:38:46,050 --> 02:38:47,100
can't figure it out. Now

2580
02:38:47,100 --> 02:38:49,830
Adam Curry: the Overbite is kind
of odd. She's super

2581
02:38:49,860 --> 02:38:50,820
John C. Dvorak: multi CultI.

2582
02:38:51,090 --> 02:38:54,240
Unknown: So now what's happening
is, as we're coming into

2583
02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:59,250
Aquarius bars are different.
Which means are you just

2584
02:38:59,250 --> 02:39:02,610
Adam Curry: doing this to mock
me now is we're listening to

2585
02:39:02,610 --> 02:39:03,060
this.

2586
02:39:03,449 --> 02:39:04,739
John C. Dvorak: This is
educational,

2587
02:39:05,070 --> 02:39:08,520
is going to be different.
Physical reality is subjected to

2588
02:39:08,520 --> 02:39:12,420
sunlight. So we're coming into a
different reality. People are

2589
02:39:12,420 --> 02:39:15,960
becoming lighter, we're becoming
less dense. The molecules that

2590
02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:19,230
make up our bodies, figuring
themselves will become more

2591
02:39:19,230 --> 02:39:22,500
spiritual. Now, why is this
important? The government is

2592
02:39:22,500 --> 02:39:25,680
trying to hijack that. And
they're trying to hijack

2593
02:39:25,680 --> 02:39:29,580
spirituality with artificial
intelligence and technology.

2594
02:39:29,610 --> 02:39:32,400
That's true. They're making you
lazy. They're making judgments

2595
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:35,760
and old technology true that you
don't use your mind, because

2596
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:39,330
your mind is more available to
you now for the next 2000 years

2597
02:39:39,330 --> 02:39:42,120
than it has been for the
previous 2000 years. So people

2598
02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:45,360
say it feels like the end of the
world. It is it's the end of the

2599
02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:49,260
age. And the way that we track
that is we track what has

2600
02:39:49,260 --> 02:39:53,010
happened on this planet for the
last 6000 years. 6000 is

2601
02:39:53,010 --> 02:39:56,640
important because we've been
through 2000 years and three

2602
02:39:56,640 --> 02:40:01,140
different sessions. So we had
the agricultural of age and then

2603
02:40:01,140 --> 02:40:05,280
that ended and that no excuse
me, we had the stone age that

2604
02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:09,240
ended then we had the
Agricultural Age that ended then

2605
02:40:09,240 --> 02:40:14,610
we had the industrial age that
ended now we're coming into what

2606
02:40:14,610 --> 02:40:18,150
they call the technological
Zenith age. And I'm warning you

2607
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:24,360
now you don't want that. The all
seeing eye is a i The only thing

2608
02:40:24,360 --> 02:40:27,690
that can watch everybody on
planet Earth at one time is a

2609
02:40:27,690 --> 02:40:31,080
robot. So this is the facial
recognition and all of that is

2610
02:40:31,080 --> 02:40:33,900
and Bill Gates want to get
people certified? Because they

2611
02:40:33,900 --> 02:40:38,670
are trying to digitise slavery.
So I just wanted to warn y'all

2612
02:40:38,670 --> 02:40:40,950
though now all of that
cryptocurrency Bitcoin, you

2613
02:40:40,950 --> 02:40:44,760
don't want them that smart
house, smartphone, smart city,

2614
02:40:44,760 --> 02:40:47,160
you don't want none of that.
Because what happens when they

2615
02:40:47,160 --> 02:40:50,250
tell your house not to let you
out? What happens when they tell

2616
02:40:50,250 --> 02:40:53,970
your car not to let you drive?
What happens when you want to

2617
02:40:53,970 --> 02:40:56,700
make a purchase and he tells
your bank account to shut off

2618
02:40:56,700 --> 02:40:57,660
after six o'clock?

2619
02:41:00,450 --> 02:41:03,900
Unknown: JOHN CENA vorak
Bakelite. Hi, today's Teddy

2620
02:41:03,900 --> 02:41:06,510
Kennedy, he's an OTG kind of
guy.

2621
02:41:07,980 --> 02:41:11,100
Adam Curry: The ultimate OG OTG
clip very nice.

2622
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:13,740
John C. Dvorak: I thought you'd
like it. Yeah, well, it

2623
02:41:13,740 --> 02:41:17,010
Adam Curry: makes total sense.
It mean, we had the previous guy

2624
02:41:17,460 --> 02:41:21,480
say that we are going through a
essentially an operating system

2625
02:41:21,510 --> 02:41:25,620
upgrade of our DNA, which which
coincides with this guy's

2626
02:41:25,620 --> 02:41:30,450
dawning of the Age of Aquarius,
the Age of Aquarius and then

2627
02:41:30,450 --> 02:41:35,790
I'll add to that, that I am in
regular contact with several of

2628
02:41:35,790 --> 02:41:42,420
our producers who believe in end
of times, most of them Catholic

2629
02:41:42,450 --> 02:41:46,680
believe in end of times, and
there is significant discussion

2630
02:41:46,680 --> 02:41:52,410
going on in in church circles
about the End of Times that

2631
02:41:52,410 --> 02:41:57,600
we're actually nearing that and
the mark of the beast as we've

2632
02:41:57,600 --> 02:42:00,810
talked about on our show John
for the since the beginning is

2633
02:42:00,810 --> 02:42:05,850
always is always been the
vaccine or the chip or now now

2634
02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:13,440
there is an actual RFID microdot
I mean, it's not just making up

2635
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:17,970
that part anymore that is in
actual existence. And many, many

2636
02:42:17,970 --> 02:42:21,270
producers who listen to are
pretty convinced Fauci could be

2637
02:42:21,270 --> 02:42:23,970
the actual antichrist. Sure
looks

2638
02:42:23,970 --> 02:42:26,910
John C. Dvorak: the part. It
would make sense. He's sure

2639
02:42:26,910 --> 02:42:27,780
short enough.

2640
02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:32,370
Adam Curry: Yeah. But what's
interesting is how no one it

2641
02:42:32,370 --> 02:42:35,220
doesn't matter what side of the
argument you're on. There's

2642
02:42:35,220 --> 02:42:38,820
people just go nuts one way or
the other. And I'm referring to

2643
02:42:38,820 --> 02:42:45,450
the troll room on so respect
everybody's ideas, please. We've

2644
02:42:45,450 --> 02:42:48,420
got the I think the first guy he
maybe he's it. He's an

2645
02:42:48,420 --> 02:42:51,360
environment a climate change guy
in disguise or something.

2646
02:42:53,250 --> 02:42:55,800
Oh, so as I was thinking about

2647
02:42:55,800 --> 02:43:00,450
it, but I've read quite a bit
about about the pollution being

2648
02:43:00,450 --> 02:43:03,210
what what was really killing a
lot of people. The Chinese

2649
02:43:03,210 --> 02:43:04,200
certainly have a lot of

2650
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:05,970
John C. Dvorak: killing
everybody. Well in China when

2651
02:43:05,970 --> 02:43:09,810
you have factories into places
so small, you can see across the

2652
02:43:09,810 --> 02:43:12,810
street, that's a problem. That
can't be healthy. That was the

2653
02:43:12,810 --> 02:43:16,440
London Fog of the death frog of
1955. Right off the

2654
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:18,060
environmental movement this
country. That's

2655
02:43:18,060 --> 02:43:20,790
Adam Curry: right. That's right.
And they didn't tell anybody and

2656
02:43:20,790 --> 02:43:23,760
that's why they died. They
didn't tell people hey, you

2657
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:29,250
gotta get out of your house. The
London fog. Did you know that?

2658
02:43:30,030 --> 02:43:33,360
It was church, I think I think
it was Churchill. Yeah,

2659
02:43:33,660 --> 02:43:37,590
John C. Dvorak: we talked about
that. This sounds like it's in

2660
02:43:37,590 --> 02:43:39,360
your house. You lock the doors
and windows.

2661
02:43:40,740 --> 02:43:44,850
Adam Curry: London. Fog. I
thought it was Churchill. I may

2662
02:43:44,850 --> 02:43:45,270
be wrong.

2663
02:43:45,510 --> 02:43:47,670
John C. Dvorak: Oh, then we've
got a short clip review low just

2664
02:43:47,670 --> 02:43:50,400
a little change of pace for just
a little entre Mont before. I

2665
02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:54,450
like to do some COVID reporting
but I got a kick out of this

2666
02:43:54,450 --> 02:43:56,730
story. I noticed this is very
topical and we're not going to

2667
02:43:56,730 --> 02:44:01,350
get back to it. Okay. This is
the I want you to hear the

2668
02:44:01,890 --> 02:44:06,180
here's something in this 15
second clip. That is kind of a

2669
02:44:06,180 --> 02:44:08,910
head scratcher. This is Oakland
fireworks remedy.

2670
02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:13,530
Unknown: To try to crack down on
these illegal shows Oakland fire

2671
02:44:13,530 --> 02:44:16,800
has these buckets throughout the
city to collect fireworks.

2672
02:44:16,980 --> 02:44:21,330
Oakland Police have also been
busy. 110 pound haul of high

2673
02:44:21,330 --> 02:44:24,870
grade illegal fireworks
confiscated near international

2674
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:25,950
Boulevard today.

2675
02:44:27,870 --> 02:44:30,300
Adam Curry: Hey man, I didn't
quite understand what was said

2676
02:44:30,300 --> 02:44:33,030
hear that was very strange. may
hear it again.

2677
02:44:33,390 --> 02:44:36,360
Unknown: To try to crack down on
these illegal shows Oakland fire

2678
02:44:36,360 --> 02:44:39,630
has these buckets throughout the
city to collect fireworks.

2679
02:44:39,810 --> 02:44:44,160
Oakland Police have also been
busy 110 pound haul of high

2680
02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:47,670
grade illegal fireworks
confiscated near international

2681
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:48,750
Boulevard today.

2682
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:51,990
Adam Curry: I don't understand
that have buckets we can put

2683
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:54,600
your illegal fireworks in on the
street.

2684
02:44:55,020 --> 02:44:57,450
John C. Dvorak: Well, they told
everyone they have no they will

2685
02:44:57,450 --> 02:45:00,240
come on. We're gonna we're gonna
bust you yet. I don't know More

2686
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:03,480
fireworks so we're gonna put a
huge it was actually more of a

2687
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:09,810
55 gallon drum put your illegal
fireworks in here well if you if

2688
02:45:09,810 --> 02:45:12,210
there's people are putting their
illegal fireworks in these big

2689
02:45:12,210 --> 02:45:15,930
giant buckets Don't you think
every teenage kid who knows

2690
02:45:15,930 --> 02:45:18,840
where the bucket is, he's just
gonna go over there and grab as

2691
02:45:18,840 --> 02:45:23,010
much free fireworks as he can
get is the stupidest thing I've

2692
02:45:23,010 --> 02:45:26,370
ever heard in my life is brought
to you by one of these

2693
02:45:27,149 --> 02:45:29,099
Adam Curry: is brought to you by
the same people who are

2694
02:45:29,099 --> 02:45:30,479
defunding the police.

2695
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:34,020
John C. Dvorak: So they show one
of these buckets got a few

2696
02:45:34,020 --> 02:45:36,150
different things in there. But
you can just tell that if

2697
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:38,550
somebody puts a bunch of stuff
in there, it's just gonna be

2698
02:45:38,550 --> 02:45:42,060
taken out and used. I mean, it
just made no sense. This is the

2699
02:45:42,060 --> 02:45:44,850
dumbest story I've heard for
weeks on and and they were

2700
02:45:44,850 --> 02:45:48,090
playing it straight on the news.
Couple of news reports all Yeah,

2701
02:45:48,090 --> 02:45:50,370
well, those are great, because
now there's a place for people

2702
02:45:50,370 --> 02:45:52,650
to put their fireworks when they
don't want to use them.

2703
02:45:53,039 --> 02:45:55,439
Adam Curry: People don't even
throw their trash in the bin.

2704
02:45:55,799 --> 02:45:58,229
less valuable,

2705
02:45:58,230 --> 02:46:00,900
John C. Dvorak: faster reported
this got any common sense out

2706
02:46:00,900 --> 02:46:04,230
there and understands Oh, no,
and it's a pile of free

2707
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:08,250
fireworks means a pile of free
fireworks. It's gone out in 15

2708
02:46:08,250 --> 02:46:09,840
minutes by people who want to
take them

2709
02:46:09,870 --> 02:46:14,040
Adam Curry: no, I think I feel
this to be a real problem. This

2710
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:17,070
this belief in unicorns and
everything's going to be great

2711
02:46:17,070 --> 02:46:23,850
has got to stop it. I guess
people, there's got to be some

2712
02:46:23,880 --> 02:46:25,440
delusion happening here.

2713
02:46:26,070 --> 02:46:28,800
John C. Dvorak: I think there's
a massive mass delusion to

2714
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:31,980
delusion going, delusion lurks.

2715
02:46:32,340 --> 02:46:37,050
Adam Curry: And it seems to be
everybody who is between? Well,

2716
02:46:37,080 --> 02:46:41,820
it just the most recent graduate
class. Everyone I talked to, I

2717
02:46:41,820 --> 02:46:45,390
think is saying I'll say did you
go to school? I say not only

2718
02:46:45,450 --> 02:46:49,680
they might be classed as a
community college, but anyone

2719
02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:52,920
who actually went to college
college had their

2720
02:46:54,270 --> 02:46:55,800
ticket problems, man.

2721
02:46:57,570 --> 02:46:58,590
And high level is

2722
02:46:58,590 --> 02:47:01,140
John C. Dvorak: just really
universities and colleges of

2723
02:47:01,140 --> 02:47:05,670
this country in general. Not all
of all of them. In general. I

2724
02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:08,910
don't think all of them but in
general dirt doing a piss poor

2725
02:47:08,910 --> 02:47:12,570
job of educating anybody. Yeah,

2726
02:47:12,930 --> 02:47:16,890
Adam Curry: it's true. Luckily,
we have a lot of young producers

2727
02:47:16,890 --> 02:47:19,320
millennials who are not on board
with that trade.

2728
02:47:19,830 --> 02:47:22,110
John C. Dvorak: I'm going to
show my school by donating to no

2729
02:47:22,110 --> 02:47:25,110
agenda. Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh yeah,

2730
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:25,830
that'd be fun

2731
02:47:33,420 --> 02:47:37,830
and yes, we do have a few people
to thank for show 12 Five,

2732
02:47:37,860 --> 02:47:42,240
seven. And let's start with who
do we have at the top of all

2733
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:47,310
this we had to John Robin? Robin
a yes. Yeah. Well, Robin A is on

2734
02:47:47,310 --> 02:47:52,380
the top of the list. And he came
in with 100 bucks. Let me move

2735
02:47:52,380 --> 02:47:56,940
my microphone so I can read
these. Brian Wolfe. 7518 from

2736
02:47:56,940 --> 02:48:00,810
Covington, Virginia. He says
Douglas he says

2737
02:48:00,810 --> 02:48:04,890
Adam Curry: he calls this a
devil kitty donation. 70 5:18am.

2738
02:48:04,890 --> 02:48:06,000
I missing some code,

2739
02:48:06,030 --> 02:48:08,160
John C. Dvorak: but no
explanation doesn't matter like

2740
02:48:08,940 --> 02:48:12,660
Douglas Ratcliffe and Madison,
Wisconsin. 74. Happy

2741
02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:16,710
Independence Day. Carl lidner in
care is 74 by the way was the

2742
02:48:17,010 --> 02:48:21,390
was the trigger it was the our
gimmick donation to celebrate

2743
02:48:21,420 --> 02:48:23,100
Yes, by July 4,

2744
02:48:23,130 --> 02:48:26,520
Adam Curry: but he says three
but and he's and this one

2745
02:48:26,520 --> 02:48:29,550
doesn't even count because Carl
says I attribute this

2746
02:48:29,550 --> 02:48:32,310
contribution to the amazing
picture of Adam and his hanging

2747
02:48:32,310 --> 02:48:35,250
cup. So it wasn't even for the
Fourth of July. People don't

2748
02:48:35,250 --> 02:48:36,480
love America anymore.

2749
02:48:37,289 --> 02:48:39,089
John C. Dvorak: It's they've
been being taught that was

2750
02:48:39,119 --> 02:48:45,839
taught in schools. Yeah, we got
three Carl Linares in Cary North

2751
02:48:46,679 --> 02:48:50,549
Carolina is one of them. And so
as Sir Colin to deaf, dumb blind

2752
02:48:50,549 --> 02:48:54,839
night. Yes. Also Matt. Then
that's it. Then now we got

2753
02:48:54,839 --> 02:49:01,949
Matthew Golden 60s 771 Tom
Miller 6666 and Sean's Burg,

2754
02:49:02,279 --> 02:49:11,189
Illinois. barons to phenom of
the Patriots nation. 5850. Brian

2755
02:49:11,189 --> 02:49:15,629
Furley Furley I think is fairly
or fairly in Littleton, Colorado

2756
02:49:15,629 --> 02:49:20,639
5510. Elena plan panetti in
Mount Pleasant, North Carolina,

2757
02:49:20,729 --> 02:49:22,619
South Carolina, we hit the
Carolinians.

2758
02:49:22,890 --> 02:49:25,440
Adam Curry: This is because this
is a donation on behalf of my

2759
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:28,530
boyfriend Seth Roberts, an avid
listener since discovering you

2760
02:49:28,530 --> 02:49:30,960
guys a few months ago and
sharing with as many people as

2761
02:49:30,960 --> 02:49:39,120
possible please de douche him.
You've been he'd do. Jobs karma

2762
02:49:39,120 --> 02:49:39,900
at the end for him.

2763
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:43,620
John C. Dvorak: Lord Michael
gates Baron of the rest of

2764
02:49:43,620 --> 02:49:48,210
Colorado in Colorado Springs,
Eric Huckle in Boulder rose

2765
02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:54,030
Deutschland $52 Is your dancing
mic in Marysville, Tennessee

2766
02:49:54,030 --> 02:49:57,660
5050 is a birthday coming up
right now as for his wife,

2767
02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:02,580
Andrew oxen ham in Knoxville
Tennessee has a $50 donor and

2768
02:50:02,580 --> 02:50:06,090
the rest of these are $50 donors
very short side of the show

2769
02:50:06,090 --> 02:50:11,130
today. Andrew oxen these are all
50s Andrew oxen ham, bad wolf in

2770
02:50:11,130 --> 02:50:15,480
Reno. Matthew Janis Zoosk is
served by now I'm sure sir

2771
02:50:15,480 --> 02:50:20,730
Matthew in Chicago, David beach
in San Antonio, Texas, Cassidy

2772
02:50:20,730 --> 02:50:26,520
Eastwood in Oklahoma City Bray
and Brady Schroeder and Milton,

2773
02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:31,860
Georgia and that's it. Boom
done. We're out of here. Close

2774
02:50:31,860 --> 02:50:32,730
the show not

2775
02:50:32,730 --> 02:50:33,810
Adam Curry: quite white man.

2776
02:50:34,200 --> 02:50:36,690
Hold on. Let me see Cassidy had
a note. I wonder if that was

2777
02:50:36,690 --> 02:50:39,750
something I wanted to read. If I
wanted to pick that out. I don't

2778
02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:45,660
know if I don't see it. There
was one other the SIR dancing

2779
02:50:45,660 --> 02:50:48,510
mic is the birthday donation
from Sir dancing Mike for his

2780
02:50:48,510 --> 02:50:52,290
wife, who maintains a sufficient
temperature to incite the

2781
02:50:52,290 --> 02:50:55,350
generation of a visible
suspension of carbon or other

2782
02:50:55,350 --> 02:50:56,790
particles in the air.

2783
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:01,890
I guess that's smokin hot. Ah,

2784
02:51:03,270 --> 02:51:05,250
John C. Dvorak: took me a
second. Yes, the smoke and now

2785
02:51:05,250 --> 02:51:07,800
thank you all, again is a smokin
hot reference.

2786
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:09,600
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you producers so

2787
02:51:09,600 --> 02:51:14,400
much. Also those under $50. For
anonymity. We do read the notes

2788
02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:16,290
and we appreciate it a lot of
people there on the

2789
02:51:16,290 --> 02:51:19,890
subscriptions which you can all
find it divorce tech.org/and A.

2790
02:51:20,280 --> 02:51:23,400
And please consider supporting
us for the show that's coming up

2791
02:51:23,400 --> 02:51:26,730
on Sunday. We will be here we'll
be watching everything doing all

2792
02:51:26,730 --> 02:51:29,730
that we can do. That's our part
of the deal. Now you produce and

2793
02:51:29,730 --> 02:51:32,490
you know what to do. You can
help us by going to

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02:51:32,550 --> 02:51:35,970
Unknown: vote.org/in a

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02:51:35,970 --> 02:51:44,820
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. You've got karma.

2796
02:51:54,060 --> 02:51:57,270
Adam Curry: July 1, here is our
birthday rundown Cassidy

2797
02:51:57,270 --> 02:52:01,260
Eastwood Happy Birthday to our
hunky husband Zachariah Tyree is

2798
02:52:01,260 --> 02:52:05,910
worth 34 On the seventh of July,
sir Sean of Slovakia says Happy

2799
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:10,590
Birthday to a smokin hot wife,
sir. Not a dame Vera celebrating

2800
02:52:10,590 --> 02:52:15,240
today. Tim Wu son Jared turns
five Happy Birthday John cabrach

2801
02:52:15,240 --> 02:52:18,510
Happy birthday to his son
booboo, aka Elliott Miller Kavik

2802
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:23,430
16 He will turn to morrow
Welcome to the Gitmo nation

2803
02:52:23,430 --> 02:52:28,590
citizen Baronet sir rug of the
taverns 56 on July 7 are dancing

2804
02:52:28,590 --> 02:52:32,760
Mike Happy birthday was smokin
hot wife Denise DeLozier rollin

2805
02:52:32,760 --> 02:52:35,160
rhymes with enclosure
disclosure. There we go. 50

2806
02:52:35,160 --> 02:52:39,090
years old today and Mark Benson
turned 54 on July 9, happy

2807
02:52:39,090 --> 02:52:42,030
birthday from everybody here the
best podcast in the universe.

2808
02:52:45,030 --> 02:52:55,770
Change change don't want to be
we have to title changes or fish

2809
02:52:55,830 --> 02:52:59,790
thanks to his upping of donation
status becomes Baron Vaughn

2810
02:52:59,790 --> 02:53:04,080
fish, protector of our slimy
friends and Sir Milton crevasse

2811
02:53:04,080 --> 02:53:09,510
becomes barren Zacchaeus aka the
tax man. Also thanks to his

2812
02:53:09,540 --> 02:53:12,840
upgrade in status. Thank you so
much and that will be reflected

2813
02:53:13,050 --> 02:53:15,030
on the peerage map which you can
find at the

2814
02:53:15,030 --> 02:53:23,040
vortech.org/peerage.h T m if I'm
not incorrect. And then we have

2815
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:28,080
quite the list here. 1234567
people will now be joining us at

2816
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:31,260
the roundtable that calls for
big blades. Here you go. Here

2817
02:53:31,260 --> 02:53:39,540
you go. Up on the podium please
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quickie report from the Midland
Texas meetup from Sir Michael

2838
02:54:57,540 --> 02:55:00,600
Hello. The Midland meetup
happened to get And in spite of

2839
02:55:00,600 --> 02:55:03,720
the new Abbott Governor Abbott
restrictions Kyle Tommy and

2840
02:55:03,720 --> 02:55:07,590
myself enjoyed a couple hours of
and triggered conversation. We

2841
02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:10,050
had to move the meat up to
Chili's because that's

2842
02:55:10,050 --> 02:55:12,810
classified as a restaurant
location we used last time was

2843
02:55:12,810 --> 02:55:16,230
the bar and of course the bars
are closed for Governor Abbott.

2844
02:55:16,770 --> 02:55:19,590
The next meetup will be in for
rather than two weeks, I need to

2845
02:55:19,590 --> 02:55:23,100
drive to Canada to see my smokin
hot wife who I haven't seen in

2846
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:27,210
four months since being
transferred to Midland, Texas.

2847
02:55:27,540 --> 02:55:30,810
Our 23rd wedding anniversary is
July 12. I certainly hope you

2848
02:55:30,810 --> 02:55:35,970
make it back for that. I still
have no social security number

2849
02:55:35,970 --> 02:55:39,540
as the SSA has been closed since
March 17. I have no Texas

2850
02:55:39,540 --> 02:55:42,900
driver's licence because DPS has
been closed. The pandemic scan

2851
02:55:42,900 --> 02:55:45,810
Demmick is a scam and it will
not end well. If I'm able to

2852
02:55:45,810 --> 02:55:48,180
return to the US we will have
the next middle of meet up

2853
02:55:48,180 --> 02:55:50,730
Saturday August 1 Thank you for
your courage Sir Michael Nice

2854
02:55:50,730 --> 02:55:53,430
knowing you Sir Michael. I don't
know if we'll ever hear from you

2855
02:55:53,430 --> 02:55:57,750
again. You don't even exist. You
have no no papers.

2856
02:55:59,040 --> 02:55:59,880
John C. Dvorak: Papers.

2857
02:55:59,910 --> 02:56:03,960
Adam Curry: Here's the list for
meetups which are slowly coming

2858
02:56:03,960 --> 02:56:07,290
back online actually he's not
even all that slow coming up on

2859
02:56:07,470 --> 02:56:12,540
Friday is the Northeast Ohio
meetup at the at the lizard at

2860
02:56:12,540 --> 02:56:17,340
six o'clock with a Seattle no
agenda meet up at 730. Then on

2861
02:56:17,460 --> 02:56:20,370
Saturday Road America IndyCar
doubleheader weekend it starts

2862
02:56:20,370 --> 02:56:23,730
at nine o'clock in the morning
in New England sapoa Potty at

2863
02:56:23,730 --> 02:56:26,730
three in the afternoon Kill
Devil Hills Outer Banks meet up

2864
02:56:26,730 --> 02:56:31,860
at 7pm and then on upcoming
Sunday that's the doubleheader

2865
02:56:31,860 --> 02:56:34,980
of course the Road America
IndyCar and the Alexandria

2866
02:56:34,980 --> 02:56:38,010
Virginia meetup which will have
a new location check this site

2867
02:56:38,010 --> 02:56:43,230
for that and also the no agenda
meetup at muster dome most start

2868
02:56:43,230 --> 02:56:47,130
dome the European must muster
dome that's in Europe, I guess

2869
02:56:47,130 --> 02:56:52,290
most of the dome. Where's this?
Where's most of them? Most of

2870
02:56:52,290 --> 02:56:57,810
them are Malta. There you go,
Malta. For all of these and more

2871
02:56:57,810 --> 02:57:00,960
information we have a fantastic
site that producer Daniel

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maintains would really
appreciate it is no agenda

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02:57:03,300 --> 02:57:06,720
meetups.com If you don't see
anything there that you like a

2874
02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:09,720
meetups not near you. It's very
simple. Go ahead and create one

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02:57:12,030 --> 02:57:17,580
John C. Dvorak: Sometimes you
want to go hang out with all day

2877
02:57:19,020 --> 02:57:30,510
you will be triggered everybody
this is like

2878
02:57:35,340 --> 02:57:38,310
Adam Curry: Oh, I did want to
mention, I think is genius that

2879
02:57:38,310 --> 02:57:43,200
Kanye has announced he's running
for president. I think it's very

2880
02:57:43,200 --> 02:57:49,650
smart. He is helping his friend
Donald Trump. Because you know

2881
02:57:49,650 --> 02:57:52,770
he's going to start helping,
he's going to split some of the

2882
02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:56,910
the black Democratic vote. Oh,
as long as they don't go to Joe

2883
02:57:56,910 --> 02:58:00,630
Biden, and all you need is five
or 6% I think Kanye might be

2884
02:58:00,630 --> 02:58:03,300
able to pull that off I think is
much bigger. People laugh at

2885
02:58:03,300 --> 02:58:06,060
this, but I think it's much,
much more devious than anyone

2886
02:58:06,060 --> 02:58:06,870
realises.

2887
02:58:07,710 --> 02:58:10,410
John C. Dvorak: No, he's not the
dumbest guy in the world asked

2888
02:58:10,410 --> 02:58:11,040
for sure.

2889
02:58:12,990 --> 02:58:17,190
Adam Curry: And this way, he
gets to take a stand. Because he

2890
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:20,130
says no one's good, which of
course is true from his

2891
02:58:20,130 --> 02:58:20,880
perspective.

2892
02:58:26,250 --> 02:58:29,970
I don't know I just had another
weird rumour that Tucker Carlson

2893
02:58:29,970 --> 02:58:34,200
is being groomed for a 2024.
Run.

2894
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:36,840
Unknown: Brother.

2895
02:58:38,640 --> 02:58:43,200
Adam Curry: Imagine that. That
would be pretty horrible. I'd

2896
02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:48,060
say See if I had

2897
02:58:48,060 --> 02:58:48,900
anything else.

2898
02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:52,140
John C. Dvorak: Well, I got a
few things left. If you want to

2899
02:58:52,140 --> 02:58:57,030
hear him. Sure. I was always I
was listening again, Democracy

2900
02:58:57,030 --> 02:59:01,260
Now. One of the shows I had this
guy representative of the Lakota

2901
02:59:01,290 --> 02:59:05,400
Lakota Sioux Lakota Sioux, which
apparently got some of their

2902
02:59:05,400 --> 02:59:10,050
land back. Thanks super Supreme
Court decision. And so the guy

2903
02:59:10,050 --> 02:59:17,220
shows up of course he's gonna be
on Democracy Now. Do I have that

2904
02:59:17,220 --> 02:59:20,490
here? Well, I do have this clip.
This is it says PBS but I think

2905
02:59:20,490 --> 02:59:25,020
I may be wrong. This is Lakota
Sioux on Mount Rushmore. Here we

2906
02:59:25,020 --> 02:59:25,260
go.

2907
02:59:25,350 --> 02:59:29,130
Adam Curry: Mount Rushmore would
be demolished or destroyed in

2908
02:59:29,130 --> 02:59:29,850
some way.

2909
02:59:29,880 --> 02:59:34,170
Yes, sir. That's a very
important question that cooler

2910
02:59:34,170 --> 02:59:37,230
heads need to think about
because some people want to

2911
02:59:37,560 --> 02:59:42,360
John C. Dvorak: stop. So I raise
it because it's so stupid as

2912
02:59:42,360 --> 02:59:45,420
someone would bring this up. I
thought it was me but no, this

2913
02:59:45,420 --> 02:59:49,080
was actually PBS. And the
question came up serious

2914
02:59:49,080 --> 02:59:52,680
question to destroy Mount
Rushmore.

2915
02:59:54,210 --> 02:59:56,190
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. Okay.
I'll start from the beginning

2916
02:59:56,190 --> 02:59:57,180
Mount Rushmore.

2917
02:59:57,420 --> 02:59:59,970
John C. Dvorak: Wait, wait. We
have to think about this woman.

2918
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:04,740
To destroy Mount Rushmore how
this is unbelievable that anyone

2919
03:00:04,740 --> 03:00:07,320
would consider this is one of
the really, if anyone's not seen

2920
03:00:07,320 --> 03:00:10,350
Mount Rushmore, I'd advise you
go look at it's quite quite the

2921
03:00:10,350 --> 03:00:12,150
artwork. Anyway. Okay, now

2922
03:00:12,150 --> 03:00:15,990
Adam Curry: start. Well, it was
started in 1927 and wasn't

2923
03:00:15,990 --> 03:00:21,120
finished until 4819 41. Yeah, it
took 20 years. Is this one of

2924
03:00:21,120 --> 03:00:23,610
the seven wonders of the world?
Is that one of the is it

2925
03:00:23,610 --> 03:00:24,810
considered one of them? And I
guess

2926
03:00:25,439 --> 03:00:29,159
John C. Dvorak: maybe it would
be if they were rejiggering

2927
03:00:29,460 --> 03:00:33,270
Adam Curry: Mount Rushmore would
be demolished or destroyed in

2928
03:00:33,270 --> 03:00:33,990
some way.

2929
03:00:34,020 --> 03:00:38,280
Yes, sir. That's a very
important question that cooler

2930
03:00:38,280 --> 03:00:41,670
heads need to think about
because some people want to blow

2931
03:00:41,670 --> 03:00:46,050
it up. And some people want to
worship it like their gods. And

2932
03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:50,400
so somewhere in the middle of
that we need to have a frank

2933
03:00:50,430 --> 03:00:55,530
truth telling and a conciliation
so we can go forward in this

2934
03:00:55,530 --> 03:00:59,910
country together, we need to
decide should we add another

2935
03:00:59,910 --> 03:01:03,870
face? Should we leave it alone,
because if we destroy it, that

2936
03:01:03,870 --> 03:01:07,500
is also an act of desecration.
Even the Crazy Horse monument,

2937
03:01:07,530 --> 03:01:11,790
though, that is one of our guys,
it's still an act of desecration

2938
03:01:11,820 --> 03:01:16,140
to do something to the natural
universe that wasn't designed to

2939
03:01:16,140 --> 03:01:21,000
be that way. But right now, we
need to be deciding who can we

2940
03:01:21,000 --> 03:01:24,480
celebrate? And in what manner
can we celebrate them? Because

2941
03:01:24,720 --> 03:01:31,320
all of the prior statues are
usually monuments to slavery,

2942
03:01:31,380 --> 03:01:37,140
genocide, and racism. And if I'm
an American, European, I can't

2943
03:01:37,140 --> 03:01:38,160
get away from that.

2944
03:01:40,380 --> 03:01:45,180
Thank the Lord, that all of this
will end

2945
03:01:46,680 --> 03:01:49,020
John C. Dvorak: in November.
Yeah, it

2946
03:01:49,050 --> 03:01:52,440
Adam Curry: all ends in
November. It really does. Just

2947
03:01:52,440 --> 03:01:56,040
in time for the second wave of
the Rona. Which as we know, is

2948
03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:57,000
really air pollution.

2949
03:01:57,060 --> 03:01:59,730
John C. Dvorak: No, that would
be the third way. Oh, that's the

2950
03:01:59,730 --> 03:02:03,360
third it would also be just in
time for the second impeachment.

2951
03:02:06,750 --> 03:02:10,620
Adam Curry: Just to show you how
crazy the political thinking is,

2952
03:02:11,250 --> 03:02:16,050
in these United States of our
country that I love so much, the

2953
03:02:16,080 --> 03:02:20,970
mayor of Miami just listen to
the words that are being said

2954
03:02:20,970 --> 03:02:24,570
here and how it's being
reported. Because this is the

2955
03:02:24,570 --> 03:02:28,500
this is the the crazy mess to 15
seconds the crazy messed up

2956
03:02:28,500 --> 03:02:29,400
world we're living in

2957
03:02:29,790 --> 03:02:32,310
Unknown: for all of you watching
on PBS and around the globe.

2958
03:02:32,310 --> 03:02:36,210
Welcome to World News America.
Let's celebrate independence day

2959
03:02:36,210 --> 03:02:39,330
by respecting one another's
right to life liberty and

2960
03:02:39,330 --> 03:02:43,140
happiness Those were the words
of Miami's Mayor as he imposed a

2961
03:02:43,140 --> 03:02:44,190
nightly curfew

2962
03:02:47,610 --> 03:02:52,020
Adam Curry: liberty, pursuit of
happiness she's locking people

2963
03:02:52,020 --> 03:02:52,950
down

2964
03:02:53,610 --> 03:02:55,260
John C. Dvorak: you know what's
funny though, Chris it wasn't

2965
03:02:55,260 --> 03:02:58,650
life liberty and the pursuit of
happiness which is what it says

2966
03:02:59,400 --> 03:03:02,010
it was life liberty and
happiness Yeah. Which is

2967
03:03:02,010 --> 03:03:02,790
different.

2968
03:03:03,300 --> 03:03:06,270
Adam Curry: Yeah, pursue Pursuit
of Happiness is not good. You're

2969
03:03:06,270 --> 03:03:07,920
not getting it happy you're

2970
03:03:08,340 --> 03:03:10,980
John C. Dvorak: pursuing just
shoot all you want. Hey, who

2971
03:03:10,980 --> 03:03:11,700
changed that

2972
03:03:11,700 --> 03:03:14,490
Adam Curry: then that's that's
not in the preamble or whatever.

2973
03:03:14,490 --> 03:03:15,030
That's That's

2974
03:03:15,240 --> 03:03:17,580
John C. Dvorak: life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness.

2975
03:03:17,580 --> 03:03:21,060
You're allowed to pursue
happiness. Yeah, you don't you

2976
03:03:21,060 --> 03:03:24,780
don't guaranteed happiness.
That's not even possible. You

2977
03:03:24,780 --> 03:03:28,020
can be guaranteed life you're
alive. You can be guaranteed

2978
03:03:28,020 --> 03:03:30,540
Liberty, we can go do what you
want. But you can't be

2979
03:03:30,540 --> 03:03:34,680
guaranteed happiness. That's not
even possible. But all these

2980
03:03:34,680 --> 03:03:35,910
Democrats think it is.

2981
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:41,400
Adam Curry: I hate to break it
to you. I'm a very happy man.

2982
03:03:41,670 --> 03:03:43,620
I'm really good for you really
soon.

2983
03:03:44,040 --> 03:03:46,230
John C. Dvorak: You pursued it
though. You didn't just get it?

2984
03:03:46,380 --> 03:03:47,580
Adam Curry: No, it was just
handed to me

2985
03:03:47,580 --> 03:03:54,300
on a silver platter. I'm
grooving. Yes, we've been saying

2986
03:03:54,360 --> 03:03:59,190
for years and the proof is in
the advertising. Who am I? And

2987
03:03:59,190 --> 03:04:05,220
where did I come from? Why do I
try to herd everything? Why are

2988
03:04:05,220 --> 03:04:09,900
frisbee so beautiful to me? And
how am I so darn intelligent.

2989
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John C. Dvorak: Oh my gosh I'm

2995
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:32,760
Adam Curry: trying to think what
is what are the actual what is

2996
03:04:32,760 --> 03:04:33,960
the point of this?

2997
03:04:34,350 --> 03:04:37,980
John C. Dvorak: Donkey money
Yeah, but but dog owners Yeah.

2998
03:04:38,010 --> 03:04:41,310
Adam Curry: Now I don't know if
anyone any producers have done

2999
03:04:41,310 --> 03:04:47,280
this dog DNA test it but they've
got to be selling more than just

3000
03:04:49,320 --> 03:04:52,080
I think it's this it's somewhere
here in this commercial. Here.

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3005
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that's what I'm thinking this
screen for over 170 health

3006
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memo back Oh, yeah, you may want

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your dog is pre cancerous. Your

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03:05:13,590 --> 03:05:19,560
dog is actually pre deceased and
so when he's pre dead so when

3009
03:05:19,560 --> 03:05:23,610
they say 170 people you get
you're about to be hoodwinked.

3010
03:05:23,940 --> 03:05:30,870
Do as you wish but you're about
to be hoodwinked. Think that's

3011
03:05:31,020 --> 03:05:32,790
John C. Dvorak: a clip here. I
want to play. I don't know what

3012
03:05:32,790 --> 03:05:37,290
it is. Or because I think I
spelled something wrong. Okay.

3013
03:05:38,070 --> 03:05:41,340
This is guns and rugs in
Chicago, and I don't think

3014
03:05:41,340 --> 03:05:42,720
that's what it's about. Oh,

3015
03:05:43,140 --> 03:05:45,930
Adam Curry: let me guess. Maybe
drugs, but we'll listen. Oh,

3016
03:05:46,140 --> 03:05:49,830
drugs. That's what it is. Is
this a clip we want to play as

3017
03:05:49,830 --> 03:05:51,060
the last clip of the show?

3018
03:05:51,750 --> 03:05:53,280
John C. Dvorak: Oh, no, I don't
want to play for the last clip

3019
03:05:53,280 --> 03:05:54,720
of the show. Alright, because
we're kind

3020
03:05:54,720 --> 03:05:56,460
Unknown: of done. Okay.

3021
03:05:57,450 --> 03:05:59,160
Adam Curry: Well, you can you
can play one more if you got a

3022
03:05:59,160 --> 03:06:00,870
funny one. If you got something
nice.

3023
03:06:01,410 --> 03:06:04,950
John C. Dvorak: I got Taylor
Swift you wanted to hear. irked

3024
03:06:04,950 --> 03:06:07,650
about this us worked about the
census

3025
03:06:07,650 --> 03:06:10,200
Adam Curry: you. You have been
holding on to Taylor Swift for

3026
03:06:10,230 --> 03:06:13,320
three shows now so it's time to
unleash the Swifty?

3027
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:16,320
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, this will
be my last clip.

3028
03:06:17,370 --> 03:06:19,710
Unknown: Hey, guys, it's Taylor.
I wanted to say Happy Pride

3029
03:06:19,710 --> 03:06:23,910
month I was stonewalling and has
been such a symbol of rebellion

3030
03:06:23,910 --> 03:06:27,120
in the face of oppression and
such a safe place for people. I

3031
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:29,100
want to say thank you to
everybody who works there.

3032
03:06:29,100 --> 03:06:31,860
Everyone who has worked there
everyone who's made it the place

3033
03:06:31,860 --> 03:06:35,370
that it is, I was lucky enough
to get to go and perform at the

3034
03:06:35,370 --> 03:06:39,210
Stonewall Inn last summer, when
my friend Jesse Tyler Ferguson

3035
03:06:39,480 --> 03:06:44,040
invited me to come and crash his
set. And everybody there was so

3036
03:06:44,040 --> 03:06:46,470
lovely and wonderful. We had a
really good step forward

3037
03:06:46,470 --> 03:06:50,130
recently with the Supreme Court
ruling based on discrimination

3038
03:06:50,130 --> 03:06:55,020
based on sex. But we still have
so far to go in terms of

3039
03:06:55,020 --> 03:06:58,740
equality and protections for
LGBTQ people and people in the

3040
03:06:58,740 --> 03:07:03,720
trans community. The Equality
Act has still not been passed

3041
03:07:03,720 --> 03:07:06,810
and that needs to happen. I got
my census the other day and

3042
03:07:06,810 --> 03:07:09,720
there were two choices for
gender there was male and

3043
03:07:09,720 --> 03:07:16,380
female. And that ratio was so
upsetting to me the ratio of

3044
03:07:16,380 --> 03:07:19,680
transgender and non binary
people and when you don't

3045
03:07:19,680 --> 03:07:24,240
collect information on a group
of people that means that you

3046
03:07:24,240 --> 03:07:26,910
have every excuse in the world
not to support them.

3047
03:07:27,900 --> 03:07:31,710
Adam Curry: Ah, I am so sad
about that.

3048
03:07:32,880 --> 03:07:35,490
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, she's
going off the rails but what how

3049
03:07:35,490 --> 03:07:38,190
does this sentence work? I'm
gonna play read the sentence to

3050
03:07:38,190 --> 03:07:43,740
you she was invited she was
invited to crash his set

3051
03:07:45,540 --> 03:07:46,830
to see the crashes

3052
03:07:46,830 --> 03:07:50,880
set you know walk out on stage
now that's or not no no this you

3053
03:07:50,880 --> 03:07:52,050
get invited to crash

3054
03:07:52,050 --> 03:07:56,520
Adam Curry: this may explain to
you you This is New Kid talk is

3055
03:07:56,520 --> 03:07:59,760
just like my albums dropping
then it's not actually dropping

3056
03:07:59,760 --> 03:08:04,710
on the floor see crashed yeah
crashing the set is not it's not

3057
03:08:04,710 --> 03:08:07,110
what you think it is. It's
basically to come on to be the

3058
03:08:07,110 --> 03:08:11,070
go there. This is this is hip
hop talk done by a white girl

3059
03:08:11,070 --> 03:08:15,270
John that's why it's not
understandable. Oh God.

3060
03:08:17,130 --> 03:08:19,170
John C. Dvorak: Let me write
this down. So I don't make this

3061
03:08:19,349 --> 03:08:22,199
Adam Curry: ever ever again and
put dropping your record in

3062
03:08:22,199 --> 03:08:27,419
there as well. Make sure we do
that right. Coming up we have

3063
03:08:27,419 --> 03:08:32,099
end of show mixes from well I
guess Augustine will kick off

3064
03:08:32,129 --> 03:08:35,639
Gus Augustine which is more than
just a mix. Also Jesse coy

3065
03:08:35,639 --> 03:08:40,199
Nelson, Jared Matta. And the
grumpy old Ben's coming up on no

3066
03:08:40,199 --> 03:08:44,699
agenda stream.com Right after
this very programme known as

3067
03:08:44,729 --> 03:08:49,319
that stupid radio programme for
some just for so. Coming to you

3068
03:08:49,319 --> 03:08:53,759
from opportunity zone 33 In the
capital of the drone Star State

3069
03:08:53,759 --> 03:08:57,119
Austin, Texas FEMA Region number
six in the governmental maps if

3070
03:08:57,119 --> 03:08:59,849
you're looking for us until well
actually, I should say please

3071
03:08:59,849 --> 03:09:04,979
remember us at divorce
act.org/na until Thursday, in

3072
03:09:04,979 --> 03:09:07,319
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry. Dan from

3073
03:09:07,320 --> 03:09:09,390
John C. Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where there's some sort

3074
03:09:09,390 --> 03:09:13,530
of protests taking place on the
freeway. I'm John C. Dvorak.

3075
03:09:14,070 --> 03:09:17,970
Adam Curry: We return here on
Sunday. Hope to see you there.

3076
03:09:18,390 --> 03:09:23,850
The vortech.org/na Until then,
adios move photos and such.

3077
03:09:43,380 --> 03:09:52,560
Out of my recto vault I just
picked me a stack you slaves are

3078
03:09:52,560 --> 03:10:01,380
having too much fun and that is
their youth Think the lock downs

3079
03:10:01,380 --> 03:10:10,290
were bad The worst is yet to
come worst is yet to come so

3080
03:10:10,290 --> 03:10:18,870
slaves put on your masks will
jack up all the stats with our

3081
03:10:18,870 --> 03:10:28,440
creative man wait till the fall
when the cold wind blows you'll

3082
03:10:28,440 --> 03:10:35,490
hide behind your drapes and wait
till we cook up that vaccine

3083
03:10:36,180 --> 03:10:43,680
there will be no who is the
worst is yet to come so sleeves

3084
03:10:43,680 --> 03:10:52,890
get back in the worst is yet to
come your freedoms no live fire

3085
03:10:58,560 --> 03:11:07,860
I'm gonna make you obey it
social suicide keep your app six

3086
03:11:07,860 --> 03:11:22,560
feet away it was so easy to fall
in love one little word from us

3087
03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:30,450
and now we're seen as device
wait till we get you to hate

3088
03:11:30,450 --> 03:11:36,720
your friends. Wait till you
forget their face. And wait till

3089
03:11:36,720 --> 03:11:44,940
you realise this never lives God
with Tao the tree the worst is

3090
03:11:44,940 --> 03:11:53,880
yet to come and slaves won't be
fine the worst is yet to go home

3091
03:11:53,880 --> 03:12:03,720
your ass is gonna be my gonna be
my sleeves. You're already mad

3092
03:12:05,310 --> 03:12:08,040
Unknown: about the health and
well baby the American public.

3093
03:12:08,970 --> 03:12:12,540
Then this could be Christ's
deceptively nasty disease.

3094
03:12:13,170 --> 03:12:18,690
It's about keeping other people
safe, keep her distance. wear a

3095
03:12:18,690 --> 03:12:19,320
mask to

3096
03:12:19,320 --> 03:12:22,770
the ventilator challenge.
Putting on the brakes. He must

3097
03:12:22,770 --> 03:12:27,810
use this moment. Now. The
vertiginous drop in GDP we're

3098
03:12:27,810 --> 03:12:31,020
waiting as if between the flash
of lightning and the

3099
03:12:31,020 --> 03:12:31,500
thunderclap.

3100
03:12:31,650 --> 03:12:35,880
Listen to the experts. Test
artists use SD limit the size

3101
03:12:35,880 --> 03:12:39,150
and crowds. Testing. How are we
doing testing? What are we

3102
03:12:39,210 --> 03:12:42,030
testing? It's about keeping
other people safe.

3103
03:12:42,090 --> 03:12:45,180
I mean all of the problem
function theory,

3104
03:12:45,840 --> 03:12:50,070
John C. Dvorak: wear a mask.
Tell us the urn Barney's truth.

3105
03:12:51,660 --> 03:12:54,360
Unknown: The world's first
demonstrably life saving

3106
03:12:54,390 --> 03:12:54,840
treatment

3107
03:13:05,550 --> 03:13:11,340
John C. Dvorak: COVID-19
COVID-19 COVID. Nike COVID.

3108
03:13:11,370 --> 03:13:11,910
Nike.

3109
03:13:13,170 --> 03:13:16,530
Follow the science. Listen to
the expert wear a mask.

3110
03:13:17,070 --> 03:13:19,830
Unknown: Be radical, wear a
mask.

3111
03:13:20,430 --> 03:13:27,480
ragged typing big long term
testy. It's emphatically

3112
03:13:28,140 --> 03:13:32,190
deceptively Nast COVID night
here. deceptively nice.

3113
03:13:33,420 --> 03:13:36,540
John C. Dvorak: I doubt
seriously that any vaccine will

3114
03:13:36,540 --> 03:13:40,380
ever be 100% protected. The best
we've ever done is measles,

3115
03:13:40,380 --> 03:13:44,250
which is 97 to 98%. Effective,
is that going to get us to herd

3116
03:13:44,250 --> 03:13:47,850
immunity? Unlikely and that's
one of the reasons why we have

3117
03:13:47,850 --> 03:13:52,140
to make sure we engage the
community as we're doing now, to

3118
03:13:52,140 --> 03:13:55,530
get community people to help us
to show that it's safe and that

3119
03:13:55,530 --> 03:14:00,150
it's effective. And it's for the
good of them as individuals and

3120
03:14:00,450 --> 03:14:03,930
society to take the vaccine. So
we have a lot of work to do

3121
03:14:03,930 --> 03:14:07,500
because as you all know, there
is a general anti science anti

3122
03:14:07,500 --> 03:14:12,120
authority anti vaccine among
some people in this country.

3123
03:14:12,780 --> 03:14:16,380
Alarmingly large percentage of
people relatively speaking.

3124
03:14:20,580 --> 03:14:23,610
You got more questions? And if
you have a problem figuring out

3125
03:14:23,610 --> 03:14:27,480
whether you're for me or Trump,
then you ain't black. I have a

3126
03:14:27,510 --> 03:14:29,430
record that is second to none.

3127
03:14:30,270 --> 03:14:33,600
Unknown: On a West says he's
running for president. The music

3128
03:14:33,600 --> 03:14:38,040
mogul made the announcement in a
tweet. If West is serious. It

3129
03:14:38,040 --> 03:14:41,040
will be tough for him to get on
the ballot, even as an

3130
03:14:41,040 --> 03:14:43,770
independent this late in the
race.

3131
03:14:44,310 --> 03:14:48,450
John C. Dvorak: I have decided
in 2020 to run for President.

3132
03:14:59,640 --> 03:15:03,780
Adam Curry: Obama Go to
vorak.org/in a

3133
03:15:04,950 --> 03:15:07,200
Unknown: stop the hammering