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John C. Dvorak: was Sunday.

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Unknown: Adam curry, John C.
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Adam Curry: Thursday, July
9 2020. This is your award

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winning nation media
assassination episode 158. This

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is no agenda. Fighting another
lockdown and broadcasting live

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from opportunity's own 33 Here
in the frontier of Austin, Texas

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capital of the drone stars thing
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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Adam curry,

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John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where

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everybody's wearing a mask. And
everybody's going to work. It

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looks like it to me. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: You guys are lucky.

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John C. Dvorak: The traffic jams
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historically

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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, no, it's I
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open but you guys don't have
what's going on here.

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John C. Dvorak: Yeah, we do. We
got him. Governor thinks we do.

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He's trying to keep up with the
Joneses.

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Adam Curry: Oh man, well, we
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council. You remember I told you
on Sunday that they were you

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know what was the Sunday of the
day before they were considering

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either everybody mandatory mask
which happened on show day or a

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35 day lockdown. And then a
lessons learned program if you

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remember that lessons learned
lessons lessons learned. Well

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today, since of course our cases
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significantly to be discussed in
a moment. Today, city councilors

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meeting and all is on the table.
I think we're going for another

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lockdown 35 days here's the
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Unknown: City Council will
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slow the spread of COVID-19 Oh
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is live at City Hall. A friend
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have to be on board to make this
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Yeah, and before Coronavirus
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Adam Curry: the way, this guy
this Yes, his mess is his

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mascot. For the end of the
report. Clearly someone who went

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to take off the mask. Your knee
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Yeah, and before Coronavirus
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just say some more crazy stuff
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But when you see poor man's

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Adam Curry: everything in the
podcast like this, everybody has

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no agenda. Hey Dan, how you
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Unknown: today. Something
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Adam Curry: And I have to point
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the middle of an empty square
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which is a big, big square and
there's no one there. And he's

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standing by himself with his
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Unknown: cute down. This was
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city's color coded COVID risk
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area, which will trigger new
restrictions to slow the spread

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of the virus. Today, council
members we'll hear from experts

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to help them decide what to do
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And they're going to tell us
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or not and what the indicated
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now that we're above 70. Now
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And the experts will also
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the city voluntarily for 35
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who believes that it'll allow
the Coronavirus to subside

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enough that we will be able to
reopen our schools for fall also

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on the agenda an ordinance that
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nuisance if they don't take more
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spread, the business
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enforcing mask use, they would
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post information signs and limit
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other things, the violators and
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nuisance. And if they did not
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they would face a civil suit
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business, but apparently it has
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Adam Curry: Do support at the
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shutdown I can see. I can see
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John C. Dvorak: I'm saying. What
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Adam Curry: that's it's got to
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talking about? I mean, what is a
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John C. Dvorak: proposal so it
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's not
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one guy some medical guy who
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meeting for 10 minutes the last
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options. Everybody mask or 35
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lessons learned. I think they're
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lessons learned. Like we're
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one of our friends Dale he had
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bar for good now because the
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Texas, he's done. He's out of
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John C. Dvorak: to have two
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in San Francisco are going to be
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Adam Curry: be. So imagine if
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we're about to witness where
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the bars are very screwed. But
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which is what will happen, and
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closes. Are we going to get
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John C. Dvorak: what kind of you
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retail closing? Now if the 35
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me one example. What a what is
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define? Just tell me a retail
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Adam Curry: would be closing the
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John C. Dvorak: And what kind of
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not not an area. Just give me
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stores. Wait, wait, stop. That
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isn't it? I know. I can go buy
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no, no, no. So why are they
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sell the same thing Walmart
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Adam Curry: I love that you play
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because they're assholes and and
full of crap. And this is in

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this can only navy. This is just
pure politics. Again, I think

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there's something else going on,
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targeted. And I think we're
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John C. Dvorak: Republican
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also targeting Florida. Hold on.
What's What's the commonality

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Adam Curry: or no, not just
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targeting states that quote
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didn't do it right. Of course,
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retails open, young people are
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people were even faking the
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symptoms just to get tested
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Austin. And this is how that
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up and the meet up there were 10
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man, I don't feel so good. I'm
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easier to do this at retail,
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work. They test one person. I'm
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person. And if that comes out
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people have to be tested. But
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got it. They're counted as a
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John C. Dvorak: I mean, they're
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Adam Curry: It's beyond sketchy.
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have this many tests, and by the
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course, I've heard of many young
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positive, and they were back on
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like I know, it's unpopular to
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is much higher. I don't think
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right now the infection rate was
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testing we're finding it out,
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death rate. But this is an
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cannot be happy that the death
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Unknown: cannot let me ask you
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because we're about to talk
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Adam Curry: big takes to the
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Unknown: governors across the
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cuts, hotspot states that it's
good news that it's just younger

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people because they have a
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That is the fallacy. The
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you're seeing people heading
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really ended in a lot of ways it
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These people go home. These
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their grandparents, those people
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and they either die or they take
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have used it. Especially the
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become more dangerous because it
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easily able to take root in the
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this is going to be catastrophe
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hey, look at the death rate now
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need another stay at home order
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like this, we have no choice

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the White House and their
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trying to instill a sense of
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life can't really feel like it's
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Americans can't feel that they
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have absolutely zero chance and
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zero chance of moving past this
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large infections. And Dr. Fauci
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doing from the beginning. He's
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Adam Curry: So whatever is going
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that the mortality rate is so
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the mainstream. Let me just give
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least listening to that clip. In
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lunch under a million people
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the Spanish Flu took out 50 No.
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sorry, the No, the world
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sorry, a billion 110 year I
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billion. The Spanish flu killed
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is a five point 26% of the
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the Spanish flu 5% More than 5%
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People flu kills 650,000 people
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billion, counting to date.
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the world population. The
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Especially not with Donald Trump
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insane, but okay.

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John C. Dvorak: I love that one
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saying wouldn't even exist if it
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so by the way, I think might be
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Adam Curry: Thank you. And this
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political. So you already you
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have the surge, it's the not
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although there's no mortality
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a whole bunch of COVID-19
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right now at 30% of our
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they say we they cordon off and
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have 1500 available oh my god,
we're at 80% 90% We're all gonna

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die, they can just easily shift
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clearly political. And the
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Adam Curry: to you. Thank you
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John C. Dvorak: This mentioned
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checklist. The checklist no
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18 or older. It can be any
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Adam Curry: Well, this checklist
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website of course Houston fights
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not like a news story. This is
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Adam Curry: this. I have all
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John C. Dvorak: was dead girl
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Adam Curry: face. Oh, yeah,
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worked? Well, let's let's just
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identified that the targeting
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testing about the deaths about
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wave, third wave, opening up to
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targeted at young people. And
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course, they're targeting young
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bring out young people listen to
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you get to go anywhere you want.
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they need you to be exposed,
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Adam Curry: even the $1,000. But
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John C. Dvorak: Well, you could
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media and then go anywhere you
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story. You don't get to $1,000
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Adam Curry: So act three is upon
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the testing into the in the
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people a month. And it's no
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actor on the scene. And I
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bursting on the street and
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big PR Blitz. It started this
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Magazine and the headline
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things could be much better
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Fauci, Francis Collins, they go
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jelly. I have highlighted a few
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piece about it one of the few
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in a major role in the Trump
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to prominence in the 1990s as
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Project. So this is no slouch.
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Human Genome Project and
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federal government's gargantuan
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annual budget of $42 billion.
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employees is Dr. Anthony Fauci,
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infectious diseases fit Fauci
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the ladder joined the NIH
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close talking at length on the
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approximately 200 to $300,000
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already. They've been doing that
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feeding this guy money. He has a
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call biologic dose. We'll get to
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that has been receiving grant
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also was elevated to the
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Bishop Desmond Tutu. So now this
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important. Here's one quote from
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with phase three. He says until
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still at risk. This is not a
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least four vaccines that we'll
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trials this summer, beginning as
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half of whom will get the
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dummy placebo. Now I have a
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it's a placebo? That's not
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placebos, a placebo. There's no
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think there's something there's
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Adam Curry: Placebo for Dummies
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virus is actively spreading,
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you're going to know whether it
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states that have been over
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you are up. That's what's going
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get PR he's out to to show
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up on NPR. He needed a little
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the best way to do that? Talk
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issue. NPR is always going to
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Unknown: it is time to end the
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speaking panels. That's the word
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Health people at the Human
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to a lot of all male panels or
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Adam Curry: manholes Hold on I
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John C. Dvorak: No one has ever
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NPR by the way and I have
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shows NPR is turned out to be
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Adam Curry: Honestly, I didn't
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played it the second time I
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common. There are multiple
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Adam Curry: What a plethora man
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one was imposed. Liam's imposed
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John C. Dvorak: hymns. And what
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Adam Curry: man you met with, I
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vowing not to speak on panels
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scientists of all backgrounds
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has prevented women or diversity
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on. But there certainly seems to
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pick out Oh, I know this person.
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then you end up coming to one of
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embarrassed to be part of
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wonderfully diverse scientific
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to be getting represented and I
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John C. Dvorak: sorry, guys
making me sick already. Oh, like

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the racist thing. You know, you
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many of these in tech, and
there's women, sometimes there's

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not and there's, you know, this
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of, you're, you're going to
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thinking about this, you're
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to be saying and what kind of
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the thing are they gonna ask
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it'd be annoyed. I mean, this
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Adam Curry: You have no, you
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guy is, you have no idea. But
I'm going to try and show it to

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you. Back to this article in New
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He's justifying how the testing
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trial starting end of July
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of which are dummies, as he says
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explain that this is a huge
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this cartel of the National
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Pharmaceuticals. He says this is
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10s of millions of doses of
these vaccines, even before we

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know if they're going to work to
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December, saying, Hey, we've got
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there were no doses left to
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that has to wait, wait here
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for, even if it means throwing
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that failed, we're prepared to
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that he said this. And then he
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the vaccine. But this guy is
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a book in 2007, called the
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presents evidence for belief.
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started the foundation BioLogos,
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harmony between science and
Christianity. This guy is he

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went into to med school, by his
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school, a complete atheist, came
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key is the guy that is
attempting to meld science and

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religion and have a very short
clip of one of his speeches.

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Just to give you an idea, what
you're going to see is a slide

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with two pictures on it. And
they both look like they're a

447
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stained glass window in a church
round, you know, kind of with

448
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the spikes. You know, what is it
like a round around stained

449
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glass church window. And this is
just the beginning.

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Unknown: Let me ask you to look
at these two images, because

451
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we're about to talk about the
worldview question. I think this

452
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is a provocative way to begin to
think about that, because what

453
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you see are two images that look
somewhat similar to each other,

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but they stand in for somewhat
different worldview

455
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perspectives. This being of
course, a beautiful stained

456
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glass window, the rose window in
Westminster Cathedral. And this

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is an unusual view of DNA, not
looking at it from the side, but

458
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looking down the long axis of
DNA. So you see that radio

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pattern? And the question that
many people pose and which I

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pose to you tonight is, Okay,
those are two worldviews, the

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scientific and the spiritual. Do
you have to choose? Do you have

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to basically throw in your life
with one or the other and

463
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neglect the other one? Or is
there a possibility here, of

464
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being someone who could merge
these two, not necessarily

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building a firewall between
them, but actually having both

466
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of those perspectives within
your own experience? I think

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many people today are arguing
that these worldviews are at

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war, and that there is no way to
reconcile them. That has not

469
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been my experience.

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Adam Curry: Now, mind you, this
guy is the DNA expert. He's

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clearly trying to bring along
Catholics and Christians

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evangelicals into the scientific
realm. So I guess he's still

473
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very, he's a believer, but we'll
find out. But what is the main

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vaccine that is being attempted
is the mRNA, which is a DNA

475
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altering vaccine. It's not
really a vaccine in the

476
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traditional sense. So this is
the guy who clearly has been

477
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driving this, if only for the
fact that he was behind the

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Human Genome Project. And I'm
reading this article, I finish

479
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it up. I might go to search for
him. And what pops up top link

480
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is at that very moment alive.
Zoom between this guy Francis

481
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Collins and Anthony Fauci
completely unsupervised, just

482
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the two of them. And they've
been friends for 27 years. So

483
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they're yucking it up. They're
getting boners over saying

484
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things. If I had the clip, this
is unreal. How these guys just

485
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lay out the entire strategy for
Act Three, and we'll start with

486
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:59,730
obviously letting everybody know
red states suck we were

487
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Unknown: having During about
20,000 new cases a day, and then

488
00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:08,010
a series of circumstances
associated with various states

489
00:30:08,010 --> 00:30:11,520
and cities trying to open up in
the sense of getting back to

490
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some form of normality has led
to a situation where we now had

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record breaking cases. Two days
ago, it was at 57,500. So within

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a period of a week and a half,

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Adam Curry: remember people
cases just tested just tested

494
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positive, more testing, he's
making it sound like the world

495
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is coming to an end,

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Unknown: we've almost doubled
the number of cases. So in

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answer to your first question,
we are still knee deep in the

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first wave of this. And I would
say this would not be considered

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a wave, it was a surge, or
resurgence of infections

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superimposed upon a baseline
Francis, that really never got

501
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Francis wanted to go. If you
look at the graphs from Europe,

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Europe, the European Union as an
entity, it went up and then came

503
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,430
down to baseline. Now they're
having little blips, as you

504
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:09,720
might expect, as they try to
reopen, we went up, never came

505
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down to baseline, and now we're
surging back up. So it's a

506
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:17,340
serious situation that we have
to address immediately.

507
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,670
Adam Curry: Okay, bull crap,
even Burke's showed yesterday in

508
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:24,990
the briefing, the testing, it's
almost like looking at co2 and

509
00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:25,920
global warming.

510
00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:30,180
John C. Dvorak: Let's let's stop
for one second. And kind of

511
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:34,200
remember those Bakersfield
doctors that were Yes. banned

512
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,650
from YouTube. They had predicted
all this. They said there's a

513
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,280
detector testing goes flying up,
the cases go flying up and the

514
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deaths died going down. And
that's because this is the

515
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ending. And I put three charts
in the last newsletter. Yep.

516
00:31:49,230 --> 00:31:52,410
Same thing showing that the
cases were going up, but but the

517
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:56,790
testing was skyrocketing. And
the but the desperate. Going

518
00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:59,490
down is that and this if you
just looked at the deaths, and

519
00:31:59,490 --> 00:32:02,250
just look at that chart alone,
if the case is you don't look at

520
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,340
the testing, you'd say this
thing is good is going away.

521
00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:08,190
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you didn't
hear Fouchier Collins even

522
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:11,610
mentioned the death rate nothing
at all. No, because they they

523
00:32:11,610 --> 00:32:15,510
are unveiling the strategy for
phase three. This is our act

524
00:32:15,510 --> 00:32:20,490
three. This is the vaccine
stage. And let's make sure that

525
00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:22,710
we know that we are
communicating to the right

526
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:24,720
group. Remember, we have to get
the young people it is

527
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Unknown: the case, isn't it now
that a lot of those new cases

528
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are younger people.

529
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:31,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, you can you
can hear the script. I mean, the

530
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:34,680
guy knows this, and he's
pretending to ask his underling

531
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,940
Fauci. Oh, isn't it isn't it
that this just younger people?

532
00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:42,210
They're rolling out a script and
they are so bad at it?

533
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,760
John C. Dvorak: Stops, stop,
stop, stop, stop. Let's I want

534
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,390
to go over this. So you stumped
this was a zoom thing that was

535
00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:53,820
open so people could watch it
was live

536
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:57,600
Adam Curry: on YouTube. It was
the okay live streams here.

537
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,600
John C. Dvorak: It was a live on
YouTube. And you're supposed to

538
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,410
be a big dummy, not realizing
that this is scripted.

539
00:33:04,530 --> 00:33:07,680
Adam Curry: Oh my god. You laugh
your ass off how scripted this

540
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,010
is.

541
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John C. Dvorak: So it's scripted
for this they're putting on a

542
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,420
play show. Yes. For the anyone
who wants to listen in and so

543
00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:18,360
you feel like Oh, I'm in on
this. I know. I understand that.

544
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,180
Because I I listened to these
two people talk to each other

545
00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:26,070
when in fact, this is a scam.
It's not a scam in the sense

546
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:29,160
that they're making money on the
spot. But it's but this is a

547
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,260
scripted. Yes. presentation to
sucker you and to think in a

548
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:34,860
certain way.

549
00:33:34,889 --> 00:33:39,929
Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah. And
and it wasn't there was an NIH

550
00:33:39,959 --> 00:33:44,039
USA Today Live Stream. I said
zoom just to make it clear.

551
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:45,029
Yeah. Two boxes.

552
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:48,060
John C. Dvorak: USA Today is a
problem. Yeah.

553
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,110
Adam Curry: Very popular. People
look at USA Today. And so I'm

554
00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:55,680
sure they tuned in to this. So
again, the USA Today stuff

555
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,240
later, let's roll out the script
of hate. Anthony isn't a young

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people.

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Unknown: It is the case, isn't
it now that a lot of those new

558
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,660
cases are younger people are
willing to go to places like

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00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:12,720
bars, which are not a good place
to be if you don't want to catch

560
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,420
this. Some people are saying
well, we don't have to worry so

561
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:17,850
much because young people don't
usually get that sick.

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00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,760
Adam Curry: By the way saying
catch this is I think this is

563
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,340
racist. You're only supposed to
talk about you spreading it, but

564
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:24,150
that's a sign that there's

565
00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:25,230
Unknown: a problem with that. Is

566
00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:26,730
Adam Curry: there a problem?
Well, there's a

567
00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:29,760
Unknown: big problem with that.
Francis, first of all, the

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average age of people getting
infected now is a decade and a

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half younger than what it was a
few months ago particularly when

570
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:38,250
New York and New Orleans

571
00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:41,040
Adam Curry: this because they
were out protesting or because

572
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,960
there's more testing I don't
know this

573
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,420
John C. Dvorak: is the this
whole scheme about these always

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00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:48,420
younger now that's why it's
different. What change what

575
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:53,040
exactly changed. And by the way,
Adam, to how often do I call you

576
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:54,510
Adam when I'm talking to you?

577
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,720
Adam Curry: Well, John, that in
fact is one of the things John

578
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,120
that you hate the most you don't
even like it when I say Hey,

579
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,660
John,

580
00:35:02,490 --> 00:35:03,570
John C. Dvorak: you are correct.

581
00:35:04,799 --> 00:35:06,509
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
John ago,

582
00:35:06,689 --> 00:35:09,419
Unknown: we're getting hit very
badly. That's the first thing.

583
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The second thing that we're
trying to get the messaging

584
00:35:12,269 --> 00:35:16,169
across. Young people should not
feel that they're invulnerable.

585
00:35:16,169 --> 00:35:16,469
Excuse

586
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:19,050
Adam Curry: me when someone says
we're trying to get the

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00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:22,710
messaging across. He's about to
tell you the messaging that

588
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:24,930
they're trying to get across.
This is

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00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,960
John C. Dvorak: that was a bad
script writer there.

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00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:31,200
Adam Curry: Let's not just just
the beginning is there that

591
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:34,530
listen, they're unsupervised.
They're ad libbing freewheeling

592
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:38,010
their own deal. Hey, Tony, we've
done this for 27 years. We could

593
00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:39,990
do it again. Yeah, we could pull
off hey, let's do it on that

594
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:43,620
newfangled thing. Yeah, let's do
a stream. Okay. And if you see

595
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:49,380
the video, Collins is in a very
impressive office with lots of

596
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:54,270
books, messy Fauci. He's sitting
in this pristine kind of space.

597
00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:57,870
And there's a there's some kind
of artwork that is behind him,

598
00:35:57,870 --> 00:36:01,050
and it's sticking out of his
head. But it's, it's almost

599
00:36:01,050 --> 00:36:04,800
exactly as why does it hit it
looks like he has a pope hat on.

600
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:09,840
It's, it's very Illuminati s
kind of symbolism. I don't know

601
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360
if that was intentional, but
it's odd to look at, we

602
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,840
continue,

603
00:36:13,350 --> 00:36:16,110
Unknown: we're getting hit very
badly. That's the first thing.

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00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:18,930
The second thing that we're
trying to get the messaging

605
00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:23,010
across, young people should not
feel that they're invulnerable

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00:36:23,010 --> 00:36:26,340
to serious consequences. The
more we learn about this

607
00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:30,360
disease, Frances, the brands
realize that many young people

608
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,300
may not necessarily get sick
enough to go to the hospital,

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00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:37,260
but they can get very sick, put
them out of action for weeks at

610
00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:41,280
a time. This is the messaging.
The other thing is, they should

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not think that even if they get
infected, and they have no

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00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:49,050
symptoms at all, that they are
in a vacuum. They're not because

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by getting infected, they are
propagating the outbreak,

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because inadvertently or
innocently, they could infect

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someone who would infect
someone, and then all of a

616
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sudden someone's grandmother or
grandfather, or aunt who's

617
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,020
getting chemotherapy for breast
cancer gets infected.

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00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:11,790
Adam Curry: So I could infect
someone who affects someone else

619
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who goes home and FX, I want to
then infect the grandmother who

620
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was who is under chemotherapy
for breast cancer, and she dies.

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Thank you, Anthony.

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Unknown: So although you think
you're isolated in a vacuum,

623
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you're not you're part of the
propagation of the pandemic. So

624
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:33,420
it's your responsibility to
yourself, as well as the society

625
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:36,990
to avoid infection shame. That's
a message I know, it's difficult

626
00:37:36,990 --> 00:37:40,320
to get out to young people, but
they really need to understand

627
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,620
that.

628
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:43,800
Yeah, I saw the Surgeon
General's public service

629
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announcement, which is a good
way to say this, which is put on

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00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:50,850
your mask and then COVID stops
with you. And if we all can

631
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:54,480
think about that, we it's up to
us, each of us to stop this

632
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,850
pandemic. It's not some
decisions going to be made in

633
00:37:56,850 --> 00:38:00,240
the governor's mansion. It's
about us deciding that this is

634
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:01,590
our responsibility. Hey.

635
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:06,330
Adam Curry: Okay, so COVID says

636
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
John C. Dvorak: your acting
classes or do not really hurt.

637
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,990
It's fantastic.

638
00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:14,010
Adam Curry: Okay. Now, you're
right. You thought that was bad

639
00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:17,580
acting? Wait for this one. Well,
let's talk about vaccines.

640
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:18,990
Unknown: The world is abuzz.

641
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,810
Adam Curry: Hey, Tony, let's
talk about vaccines. The world

642
00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:28,080
is abuzz about the vaccines
girlfriend. This is just a

643
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,860
rajas.

644
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,650
Unknown: Let's talk about
vaccines. The world is abuzz

645
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:32,610
vaccine.

646
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:36,870
Adam Curry: This guy runs a $42
billion health budget.

647
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Everybody's abuzz about
vaccines. Tony, well, let's

648
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,050
Unknown: talk about vaccines.
The world is abuzz about

649
00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:46,200
vaccines because the way in
which we might ultimately get

650
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,650
past this and have a chance to
go back to something approaching

651
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:53,010
normal life where we can all be
back together again because this

652
00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:56,790
risk won't be so high. Where are
we, Joanie, with the vaccine

653
00:38:56,790 --> 00:39:00,270
efforts that have been moving
forward at unprecedented speed.

654
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:05,880
Adam Curry: Hey, Tony, where are
we with the vaccine efforts that

655
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,360
have been moving forward at
unprecedented speed?

656
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:12,570
Unknown: But of course, they are
full of scientific challenges

657
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,290
that tell us about

658
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,350
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think the
first thing Wow, did you hear

659
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:19,800
that? That was Tony Fauci is
throat wheezing was that

660
00:39:20,340 --> 00:39:22,920
Unknown: challenges? Uh, tell us
about? Yeah, I

661
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,970
Adam Curry: think that was his
that was Fauci inhaling.

662
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:32,640
Unknown: Very healthy himself.
Oh, they are full of scientific

663
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,140
challenges that tell us about

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the first thing people need to
understand that although

665
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,880
timetables are given when you're
dealing with a vaccine, that

666
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,860
there's never a guarantee that
your candidate will be both safe

667
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and effective. So there's always
the big question mark, however,

668
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assuming that there will be one
and maybe more safe and

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effective vaccines, here's where
we are with the timeline. Okay,

670
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there are multiple candidates
It's using different platforms,

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several of which the United
States government and the NIH

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itself, we are involved in
helping to facilitate the

673
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development either directly or
indirectly with our sites, if

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things go the way

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John C. Dvorak: isn't he telling
that head of the NIH? What the

676
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head of the NIH should? Well?
No. I mean, be very familiar

677
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with.

678
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Adam Curry: Yes. But they
divvied up the script. In fact,

679
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do you recall? Well, I reminded
you or I asked you to keep

680
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something in mind when I was
reading from the article, just

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skip to the next clip,

682
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Unknown: we are now working with
the companies bought by their

683
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investment to start making
doses. Before we even know

684
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whether it works or not get
ready for it. When we get to the

685
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winter and the early part of
2021, we will start to have a

686
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large number of doses that
people will be able to use if it

687
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turns out to be safe and
effective to begin with.

688
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So does that mean if one of
those vaccines doesn't turn out

689
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to be safe and effective, you
just have to throw out all of

690
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those doses that were made
because they wanted to be ready,

691
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but it isn't always going to
work.

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Adam Curry: He's asking this
question. Tony, does not mean

693
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that we have to throw out the
vaccine that doesn't work

694
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John C. Dvorak: doesn't
discourage Shouldn't this guy

695
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know the answer to this
question. He

696
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Adam Curry: knew it in his he
runs the play. He knew it. In

697
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his interview over the weekend.
He said literally, we have to

698
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throw it out. That's what I
asked you to remember. I know.

699
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John C. Dvorak: He got me on
that one. Yes. You already did

700
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that. You already said that. But
now he's playing dumb.

701
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Adam Curry: It was listen to
that dumb part, again, the big

702
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F.

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Unknown: So does that mean if
one of those vaccines doesn't

704
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turn out to be safe and
effective, you just have to

705
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throw out doses that were made.

706
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Adam Curry: How can this be? I
wish I knew I don't run a $46

707
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billion

708
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Unknown: budget is good. Wanted
to be ready, but it isn't always

709
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gonna work. Oh, well,

710
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,770
the answer? There is.

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John C. Dvorak: stop for one
second. This is one of the

712
00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:12,840
little things that probably
irked me the most, and I you see

713
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,700
with broadcasters to somebody
knows something knows the

714
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:22,110
answer. They know the answer.
And instead of posing the

715
00:42:22,110 --> 00:42:25,290
question as if they know the
answer, which you can do and get

716
00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:30,180
away with, you can say well, as
we know, or you can put you can

717
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:31,500
couch it differently. It's

718
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:35,040
Adam Curry: the Late Show pre
interview question. So I heard

719
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,860
that you had a really entering
expect interesting experience

720
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:42,690
last week in Disneyland, which
of course is a known story.

721
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That's the worst case

722
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John C. Dvorak: scenario. Yes,
yes, exactly. But I have run

723
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into people that are that do
tech, for example. And they're

724
00:42:51,660 --> 00:42:55,320
very knowledgeable about
something. But they feel obliged

725
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,160
to act completely stupid about
something. So to ask because

726
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,400
they can't ask the question. And
the other way, they don't know

727
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,480
how to do it, I guess. But to
hear somebody that at this

728
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,570
level, running the NIH acting
stupid with questions that he

729
00:43:12,570 --> 00:43:16,350
knows the answer to, it's a
humiliation, this guy should go

730
00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:17,580
they should get rid of him.

731
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Adam Curry: This guy is only
just breaking onto the scene.

732
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:23,280
We're going to see a lot of him
Fauci can't do the vaccines.

733
00:43:23,370 --> 00:43:27,120
Fauci is too tainted. He's the
wrong guy for the vaccine. This

734
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,520
is the guy that's bringing the
vaccine. That's why he's in the

735
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,370
magazine. That's why he's on
NPR. That's why they did this

736
00:43:32,370 --> 00:43:37,890
little script. And I will say as
a little aside, if you look at

737
00:43:37,890 --> 00:43:41,520
revelations and you look at the
Antichrist, where Revelation

738
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,910
says the Antichrist will come he
will look just like you this a

739
00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:50,310
significant portion of our
Christian religious believers

740
00:43:50,310 --> 00:43:53,130
and believing producers who
think this guy will be an

741
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excellent candidate for the
Antichrist because I'm

742
00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:57,930
John C. Dvorak: he used to agree
with them. He isn't good. For

743
00:43:57,930 --> 00:44:04,230
example. Just what you played
there. This is for evangelical

744
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:09,420
Christian, this is basically
blatant lying. Oh, yeah, he's

745
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:12,930
handling this. He is He is a
liar. This guy. Oh,

746
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:15,330
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, he's lying here pretending

747
00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:17,970
he's certainly being not being
sincere, pretending he doesn't

748
00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:22,560
know about how anyway, so I'll
skip past the rest of that clip,

749
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,040
we got out what we needed the
end of it. They just say, hey,

750
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:28,740
this will be just as safe as any
other vaccine, which I thought

751
00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:33,240
was kind of funny. But now now
now now. Now we need to go after

752
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,130
the people here to sign people
up. We need to we need to get

753
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:37,110
people we need to get people to
take this test. We already

754
00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:39,120
determined that these have to be
young people got to be on people

755
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,010
got a message to the young
people. Here's the messaging. I

756
00:44:41,010 --> 00:44:44,070
want to get out. Now. Let's get
this going. We need to get

757
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:46,710
people to sign up for the
trials. And it

758
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:50,550
Unknown: will be important to
encourage people to enroll so

759
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:55,050
people who are watching this
right now, my intention in two

760
00:44:55,050 --> 00:44:58,320
or three weeks to announcements
that there might be a vaccine

761
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,080
trial enrollment, some We're in
your neighborhood,

762
00:45:01,110 --> 00:45:02,790
Adam Curry: like we just heard
in Houston,

763
00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:06,930
Unknown: because we will depend
on the public to sign up and

764
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help us figure this out. Let's
be clear, these vaccines have

765
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:14,220
already gone through phase one
and phase two trials. So we know

766
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that they've been safe,
significant number of

767
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,170
individuals, and we know that
they seem to be capable of

768
00:45:19,170 --> 00:45:22,080
raising antibodies, but we
haven't actually done the real

769
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,500
casting in the field that is
going to be in the so called

770
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,860
phase three trials. But
particularly, Tony, it seems to

771
00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:33,420
me because this disease COVID-19
has hit particular group

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Adam Curry: and even that, you
know, John, it seems kind of to

773
00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:41,580
me like, Hey, John, in
particular, I mean, it's so

774
00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:44,310
contrived, it's so contrived,
and

775
00:45:44,310 --> 00:45:47,400
Unknown: it'd be in the so
called phase three trials. But

776
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,960
particularly, Tony, it seems to
me because this disease COVID-19

777
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,040
has hit particular groups really
hard. I'm talking about older

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00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,730
people, people with chronic
disease, African Americans,

779
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:01,920
Latinos, we want to be sure.

780
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:06,060
Adam Curry: Old old man, it's
not Latinos, bro. But we'll let

781
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:07,290
you slide people, people

782
00:46:07,290 --> 00:46:11,340
Unknown: with chronic disease,
African Americans, Latinos, we

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00:46:11,340 --> 00:46:15,420
want to be sure that the vaccine
enrollment includes those folks

784
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as well. Are there ways based on
past experience where we are

785
00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:23,520
sure that outreach will work and
we will get people to sign up

786
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,480
for those groups?

787
00:46:24,509 --> 00:46:26,639
Adam Curry: Do we have the
messaging, right, Tony?

788
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:30,750
Unknown: Well, thank you,
Francis. What was Dr. Collins

789
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:32,520
was referring back to you,
Francis,

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leading me into the

791
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John C. Dvorak: question, Why
thank you even very much.

792
00:46:37,950 --> 00:46:39,720
Adam Curry: Even says you're
leading me here.

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00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:44,670
Unknown: Well, thank you,
Francis, what Dr. Collins was

794
00:46:44,670 --> 00:46:48,360
referring to, leading me into
the answer to the question was

795
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,630
that?

796
00:46:55,170 --> 00:46:57,510
Adam Curry: But why are they
laughing? It's not because of

797
00:46:57,510 --> 00:47:01,320
the question is he's laughing? I
believe this guy is secretly

798
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,400
loving the answer.

799
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:07,710
Unknown: This is something that
we've done with all our HIV

800
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trials, there is an analogy
here. When you're dealing with

801
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,010
HIV, there's a disparity of

802
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:17,190
Adam Curry: why the hell is he
laughing about this? So they're

803
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:20,190
talking about, are we reaching
the right people? He says,

804
00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:23,790
you're leading me right into the
answer. They crack up laughing?

805
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,780
Because it's just like when we
did HIV.

806
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:32,160
Unknown: Thank you, Francis.
What Dr. Collins was referring

807
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:39,780
to, leading me into the answer
to the question was that this is

808
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:43,650
something that we've done with
all our HIV trials, there is an

809
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:47,550
analogy here. When you're
dealing with HIV, there's a

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00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:52,950
disparity of susceptibility of
involvement. 30% of the American

811
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population is African American,
and 45 to 50% of the new

812
00:47:57,510 --> 00:48:00,660
infections. So whenever we do
treatment, and prevention

813
00:48:00,660 --> 00:48:04,680
trials, through our networks, we
outreach through community

814
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,250
representatives, and community
outreach, we're going to use

815
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that same model to do the same
thing for the African American

816
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,080
Latina X and Native American
populations. In fact, Francis

817
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,310
and I, right now are very
heavily involved in making sure

818
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that the trials are quite well
represented by the individuals

819
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who are most susceptible, not
only to infection, because of

820
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:32,760
certain circumstances in their
life, but also because of the

821
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fact that they are more prone to
complications, because of

822
00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:41,340
underlying comorbidities. It's a
major goal of the trial to be

823
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properly represented. And that's
what we're going to make

824
00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:45,990
certainly a high priority.

825
00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:51,150
Adam Curry: So here's what I
heard. Yes. Just like remember

826
00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:55,020
how much fun we had trying to
find the gays to take them to

827
00:48:55,020 --> 00:49:02,280
take the tough. Now we gotta get
black people. Can't wait to try

828
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,950
it out on him first. That's what
I'm hearing and I'm not kidding

829
00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:09,720
you, man. These people are

830
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:12,660
John C. Dvorak: not going to
argue the point they are

831
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Adam Curry: evil. And will this
thing even work coming back

832
00:49:15,330 --> 00:49:18,900
Unknown: to the vaccines? I keep
hearing? Yes, Tony. Okay. So

833
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:21,900
suppose this all looks really
good. And you have a vaccine

834
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that's safe and effective and we
start immunizing people. How

835
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:29,550
long will that protection lasts
when you've seen?

836
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,220
Are you going to need to take it
again?

837
00:49:33,660 --> 00:49:36,690
I mean, like the flu where you
have to have a shot every year

838
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:39,150
or will you get a booster? Not
that what do you think,

839
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:41,760
Adam Curry: wow, we hadn't
discussed this at all in many

840
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,850
meetings before we went out and
spent hundreds of millions or

841
00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:47,790
maybe billions of dollars pre
funding vaccines we might have

842
00:49:47,790 --> 00:49:51,810
to throw away. What do you think
a pie? Well, this

843
00:49:51,810 --> 00:49:53,910
Unknown: is Francis a great
question, and it's the reason

844
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:54,600
why we have to be

845
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:01,590
Adam Curry: Yeah, we do. Please
just say it To say it, it's not

846
00:50:01,590 --> 00:50:03,870
a great question. Not a great
question

847
00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:04,890
John C. Dvorak: by any means.

848
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,650
Unknown: This is Francis a great
question. And it's the reason

849
00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:10,920
why we have to be humble about
what we do. We do not know the

850
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,360
answer to that we do not know. I
mean, you can assume that you're

851
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,150
going to get protection at least
to take us through the cycle.

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00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:20,880
When you look at natural
infection, it's anywhere between

853
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six months to a year. However,
with this spike protein that's

854
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:29,010
being presented in the way that
we do it with primes and in some

855
00:50:29,010 --> 00:50:32,520
cases boosts we're going to
assume that there's a degree of

856
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,950
protection, but we have to
assume that it's going to be

857
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:38,130
finite. It's not going to be
like a measles vaccine.

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00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:43,170
Adam Curry: How does an M RNA
vaccine which is intended not to

859
00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:47,370
have your body produce immunity
against future infection from

860
00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:51,900
this dead end host your dead and
virus you receive? But it is

861
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:56,760
intended to change your actual
DNA? Why in God's name, would

862
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,230
you need a boost or a booster
for that? It just doesn't make

863
00:51:01,260 --> 00:51:04,290
John C. Dvorak: well even if it
was let's just assume let's

864
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:10,050
that's a B, if it's a normal
disease I mean the reason you

865
00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:12,690
got to have to have a flu shot
every year because the flu

866
00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:16,890
changes every year right? So is
this thing going to change every

867
00:51:16,890 --> 00:51:19,950
year? Oh way they're already
changed once from the phony

868
00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:23,940
baloney SARS which disappeared
magically weren't. Where did

869
00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:28,590
that ever go? No one ever talks
about the disappearance of Cove

870
00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:35,190
one SARS that came and went, and
it which was deadlier. Now we

871
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:40,500
have this, this is a this is a
Blab created product that will

872
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,140
just naturally go away and
they're just trying to get these

873
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:47,670
vaccines out and manufacture
tons of the vaccines as fast as

874
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:50,160
they can. It's prepaid. They
already made their money. It's

875
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,350
prepaid. So they want to get
their money out of this thing.

876
00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:54,090
And they got to do it before
this thing completely

877
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:57,960
disappears, as is shown by the
deaths chart, which is falling

878
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,980
off the cliff.

879
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:04,320
Adam Curry: Final two clips,
they're short. So we're signing

880
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:13,980
off now. And then Collins holds
up a ball a model of the

881
00:52:13,980 --> 00:52:17,190
Coronavirus. So he has like the
size of a softball with all

882
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:21,210
these spikes sticking out of it.
It's green, it's green, it's not

883
00:52:21,210 --> 00:52:23,400
purple, red, it's green is this

884
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,470
Unknown: bad boy, this is my
model of the Coronavirus, SARS,

885
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:32,730
cov two, with all of those spiky
proteins that just as the way

886
00:52:32,730 --> 00:52:35,190
that it likes to get inside of
your cells, we are going to

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00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:40,590
vanquish this guy on top for a
whole lot longer.

888
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,610
Adam Curry: Okay, we're gonna
vanquish this guy. And now, to

889
00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:49,950
answer your question about this
guy's religiosity. Listen to how

890
00:52:49,950 --> 00:52:54,540
he says goodbye. And you tell me
if this is a man of faith, a man

891
00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:55,590
who fears God

892
00:52:55,620 --> 00:52:58,740
Unknown: then hang on Because
Science, the best science you

893
00:52:58,740 --> 00:53:02,880
can imagine, led by amazing
people like Tony Fauci, and many

894
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,210
others, who is going to come
forward here with what we

895
00:53:06,210 --> 00:53:10,170
believe will be ultimately a
chance for us all to get back to

896
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:14,310
the kind of lives that we were
living leaving, leading in 2019.

897
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:18,750
And you know, what, all of us,
and a few years, we'll have

898
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:25,320
parties where we talk about what
did you do and 2020. Our

899
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,560
grandchildren will tell their
grandchildren, what they did in

900
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,570
2020. We were counting the
money. This is unlike anything

901
00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:36,930
we've faced before, but we're up
to it. We have the courage, the

902
00:53:36,930 --> 00:53:40,020
strength, the vision, and the
energy to make it happen. And

903
00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:40,620
the hope is,

904
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,280
Adam Curry: oh, I'm sorry. If
you're a man of faith, if you're

905
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,150
a man who went in an atheist in
the med school came out and

906
00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:52,320
evangelical Christian, and you
believe in God, and you've

907
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,090
professed this and you believe
that science has a role under

908
00:53:57,090 --> 00:54:02,310
God? Why is the last thing you
say? an afterthought? Oh, yeah,

909
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:03,750
and some hope. Listen, again,

910
00:54:04,110 --> 00:54:07,440
Unknown: this is unlike anything
we faced before. But we're up to

911
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,590
it. We have the courage, the
strength, the vision, and the

912
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:12,450
energy to make it happen. And
the hope

913
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,780
Adam Curry: and the hope. Come
on man, he would

914
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:17,190
John C. Dvorak: have said with
God's help,

915
00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:20,880
Adam Curry: yes. Or how about
even hope? He said hope. He

916
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,080
forgot to say hope.

917
00:54:22,350 --> 00:54:25,500
John C. Dvorak: Thanks, Tony,
thanks to the hope was even an

918
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:27,210
afterthought. It is listen,
listen to

919
00:54:27,660 --> 00:54:30,090
Unknown: the strength, the
vision and the energy to make it

920
00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:31,860
happen. And the hope and the
hope.

921
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:38,250
Adam Curry: Rather, third act is
upon us. This is the important

922
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:41,910
phase. I know they can play it
any way they want

923
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:43,890
John C. Dvorak: shooting
everybody up on the water for

924
00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:45,810
all we know, dummy placebo,

925
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,180
Adam Curry: we don't know we
have no idea but

926
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:50,520
John C. Dvorak: by the way, show
title.

927
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:55,020
Adam Curry: I think you're
right. But How sick is it? I

928
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:59,790
mean, so the way the way I the
way I interpret these guys and

929
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:04,380
the way What is happening is
let's target those those idiots

930
00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:07,470
the rednecks, the dummies, and
of course they're not wearing

931
00:55:07,470 --> 00:55:10,710
masks so we can blame them for
they didn't open up right

932
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,400
anywhere you're not wearing a
hoe that they're the target you

933
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,920
could do this any any city in
America except for New York

934
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,360
possibly any city in America you
could do this now. You can test

935
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,440
more find this big group of
people and then you can set up

936
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,940
your vaccine trial and of course
Houston is one of the first of

937
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,880
course it is I haven't heard
about any vaccine trials in

938
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,270
California which has more cases
than we do we have

939
00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:39,720
John C. Dvorak: a we have we
have a Democratic governor who

940
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,760
scams

941
00:55:44,490 --> 00:55:46,650
Unknown: are so lucky with that
I guess

942
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,940
John C. Dvorak: he's a good man
he wears a mask in his He's now

943
00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:54,480
on Twitter. He's got his picture
with a mask on. That's because

944
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,280
when you're on Twitter if you
don't have a picture of the

945
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,720
mascot, you're scared you want
some COVID updates around the

946
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,970
world we want to get them out of
the way we get from COVID report

947
00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:08,100
done yeah, for sure. Let's start
when there's only four of them

948
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,230
here they're they're kind of
combined it with a bunch of

949
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:13,500
because we got to remember the
blast Brazil because Brazil is

950
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:17,250
the worst case scenario because
you got to this Bolson arrow guy

951
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:19,200
has taken his mask on he have
taken his

952
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,750
Adam Curry: mask off even though
he's he's positive.

953
00:56:22,410 --> 00:56:25,560
John C. Dvorak: And with the guy
says Jesus, he's a plague on

954
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,560
socialism. So let's play COVID
Brazil In

955
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,440
Unknown: Brazil bars and
restaurants also reopened in

956
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,470
parts of the country this week
despite the second largest

957
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:37,500
Corona virus outbreak in the
world behind the United States.

958
00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:41,070
On Friday, Brazilian President
Jair Bolsonaro vetoed parts of a

959
00:56:41,070 --> 00:56:45,150
law that would have required
facemasks indoors when large

960
00:56:45,150 --> 00:56:48,540
groups gather Bolsonaro has
downplayed the severity of the

961
00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:51,870
pandemic despite increasing
numbers of infections and deaths

962
00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:53,970
in Latin America's largest
country.

963
00:56:55,050 --> 00:56:58,200
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, yeah,
exactly. To get that in there.

964
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,920
Okay, let's go to COVID Oh,
here's a good one. This is the

965
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,690
COVID cases versus deaths.
Comparison, which is I like to

966
00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:08,640
wear the Android Play the deaths
and here we go.

967
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,880
Unknown: Nationwide, there were
more than 57,000 New confirmed

968
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,220
cases reported yesterday.
According to Johns Hopkins

969
00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:18,330
University researchers, new
daily cases are increasing in 39

970
00:57:18,330 --> 00:57:22,080
states with sharp upticks in
California, Arizona, Texas and

971
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,470
Mississippi. According to The
New York Times data, Florida

972
00:57:25,470 --> 00:57:30,750
reported 11,458 new cases today
a new record for daily cases,

973
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:34,380
while the number of new cases is
increasing, new deaths per day

974
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:37,620
are declining. And experts say
the numbers reflect better

975
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:40,530
treatments and the fact that
younger people who are less

976
00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:43,950
likely to become severely ill
account for more of the new

977
00:57:43,950 --> 00:57:46,200
cases. Oh, really? Yeah.

978
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:49,530
John C. Dvorak: There's the
memes. Yeah. It's all in there.

979
00:57:49,950 --> 00:57:53,460
Young people. And this other
thing, this little mystery I am

980
00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:55,680
they keep throwing in there. And
I've heard it a lot. I've seen

981
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,410
it a lot. The new improved
treatments.

982
00:57:59,010 --> 00:58:00,780
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Which
means any of these new and

983
00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:05,430
improved treatments, anything
except hydroxychloroquine. There

984
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:11,460
is I do have a new treatment.
Hold on a second. I have the guy

985
00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:15,930
here. Yes. This is of course, a
doctor from Texas. He's from

986
00:58:15,930 --> 00:58:17,550
West Texas for finally.

987
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,340
John C. Dvorak: And what do we
have 4567888 car

988
00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:26,100
Adam Curry: stable. We're
stable, stable, everybody. Okay,

989
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,260
safe, we're stable, no up no
down this

990
00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:29,910
John C. Dvorak: f is extremely
late.

991
00:58:31,770 --> 00:58:35,730
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
what that means. So there's a

992
00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:39,420
new treatment, a new cheap
treatment, which means this will

993
00:58:39,420 --> 00:58:42,600
be the first and last time you
ever hear of this guy. His name

994
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,240
is Dr. Richard Bartlett. He
treats his patients in West

995
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,970
Texas. He's been doing that for
quite a number of years. And he

996
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:54,630
has a very, very simple
protocol, which he says is the

997
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:58,290
exact same one that Taiwan Japan
and Singapore have used with

998
00:58:58,290 --> 00:59:02,100
incredibly low mortality rate in
all of those countries.

999
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,130
Unknown: I'm pointing them out.
Because the people in Texas in

1000
00:59:05,130 --> 00:59:07,830
Texas need to hear good news in
Dallas, they need to hear good

1001
00:59:07,830 --> 00:59:12,990
news. And I have good news. I'm
sure you do before I'm blown

1002
00:59:12,990 --> 00:59:16,080
away by those numbers. I gave up
trying to write them down. But

1003
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,000
you're gonna tell us somehow
eventually where we get to this

1004
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,670
point that in these other
countries, they're doing what

1005
00:59:20,670 --> 00:59:24,000
I'm doing, Debbie, okay. They're
doing what I'm doing, which is

1006
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,650
not hydroxychloroquine although
that works. And so what they're

1007
00:59:28,650 --> 00:59:33,600
doing is inhaled steroid. So my
silver bullet is inhaled

1008
00:59:33,630 --> 00:59:37,500
budesonide. The brand name
originally was Pulmicort Nast

1009
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:40,800
generic. It's super cheap. It's
about $200 for the total

1010
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,220
treatment. If you pay cash, with
insurance, many of my patients

1011
00:59:44,220 --> 00:59:47,190
are not even having to pay for
it. And you use a nebulizer

1012
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:50,640
machine. It's an asthma
medicine. That's it's a

1013
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,510
respiratory anti inflammatory
for COVID, which is a

1014
00:59:54,510 --> 00:59:59,220
respiratory inflammatory
disease, and it works 100% of my

1015
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:02,250
patients are alive I've, I've
been treating this since March

1016
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:06,840
and use it for five minutes. So
it takes five minutes to do a

1017
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,240
breathing treatment, you plug it
in the machine, the machine in

1018
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,450
the wall, you put the medicine
is pre mix pre measured from the

1019
01:00:12,450 --> 01:00:15,360
pharmacy into the little
reservoir, you push the on

1020
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,870
button and you breathe it during
five minutes. You don't even

1021
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:21,810
have to have a mask, you can use
a little mouthpiece that you

1022
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:24,840
hold in front of you, and you
breathe it for five minutes.

1023
01:00:24,990 --> 01:00:29,220
And, and I have let me tell you
what I've heard from patients

1024
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:32,880
when I started using this. They
tell me I feel better during the

1025
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,540
first treatment. And so their
chest pain goes away, their

1026
01:00:36,540 --> 01:00:39,690
shortness of breath goes away
their fever breaks.

1027
01:00:40,020 --> 01:00:42,780
Adam Curry: So the only way that
this of course could work is if

1028
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:46,110
the President comes out today
and says don't listen to that

1029
01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:49,440
guy. kill you in that shit.

1030
01:00:49,950 --> 01:00:52,710
John C. Dvorak: Yes, if Trump
came out and said that you're

1031
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:57,780
right, this would be the rage
would be you know, it's it's

1032
01:00:57,810 --> 01:01:00,480
cheap, which is not a good
thing. They don't want that.

1033
01:01:00,750 --> 01:01:03,810
Adam Curry: No, of course not.
All right back to your world

1034
01:01:03,810 --> 01:01:04,440
overview.

1035
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:08,280
John C. Dvorak: Nice. Nice pick
up on that. Yeah. Here's the

1036
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,550
here

1037
01:01:09,630 --> 01:01:11,910
Adam Curry: we are together. We
are really way too tight for

1038
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:13,470
this market. You realize that
don't you

1039
01:01:14,010 --> 01:01:16,410
John C. Dvorak: for the
podcasting market. Were too

1040
01:01:16,410 --> 01:01:19,440
tight baby. Let's go to COVID
report UK.

1041
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Unknown: This pub in Cumbria in
the north of England has

1042
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,110
probably never been as clean,
but it needs to be. Businesses

1043
01:01:28,110 --> 01:01:31,140
in England will be open for the
first time in months from

1044
01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:34,830
Saturday. But that doesn't mean
the pandemic is over yet.

1045
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,060
We aimed for July the fourth, we
wanted to set ourselves a

1046
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:42,690
target. We think we're in good
shape. But my message is let's

1047
01:01:42,690 --> 01:01:46,740
not blow it now, folks, we've
done a fantastic job so far in

1048
01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:50,040
bearing down on this disease
collectively. Let's not blow it

1049
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,430
now.

1050
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:54,750
Dozens of patients are still
dying every day in British

1051
01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:59,040
hospitals, and many facilities
such as gyms and swimming pools

1052
01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:02,940
will remain shut. Britons have
also been warned that they

1053
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:06,330
should continue to social
distance while out and about

1054
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,240
it but slightly worried about
going into a couple of public

1055
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:17,070
transport at the moment. We
gotta get back to normal

1056
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,400
the British government has also
become embroiled in a round with

1057
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,310
their counterparts in Cardiff
and Edinburgh. Currently,

1058
01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:26,670
travelers entering the United
Kingdom must quarantine for a

1059
01:02:26,670 --> 01:02:30,960
fortnight. But London's decision
to soon exempt people arriving

1060
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,770
from 59 countries from
quarantine was met with theory

1061
01:02:34,770 --> 01:02:37,920
from the Welsh and Scottish
Government's, both of whom have

1062
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,900
decided to opt out of the plan.

1063
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,750
But dealing with the UK
Government over the last few

1064
01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:47,250
days has been an utterly
shambolic experience shambolic

1065
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,750
if ever there was an example of
making an announcement first and

1066
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:55,290
then trying to work out what you
meant by it. That is what we

1067
01:02:55,290 --> 01:02:58,560
have seen since this
announcement was first trailed

1068
01:02:58,590 --> 01:02:59,550
in the press.

1069
01:03:00,420 --> 01:03:04,110
Boris Johnson has also warned
that further localized lockdowns

1070
01:03:04,110 --> 01:03:07,860
may be needed. One has already
been imposed on the city of

1071
01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:12,870
Leicester, in the East Midlands.
All in all, it adds up to the

1072
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:15,630
strangest British summer in
living memory.

1073
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:19,560
Adam Curry: For 0.00 Sam

1074
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,650
John C. Dvorak: bought shambolic
about 10 years ago if you

1075
01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:26,940
remember we did a whole whole
review on it. Yeah, shambolic

1076
01:03:26,970 --> 01:03:29,520
you remember this I thought it
was bullcrap word and then we

1077
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:35,100
went looked into it. It's a very
useful word. shambolic look it

1078
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:39,150
up. That's why you're looking it
up. Yeah, play the last just

1079
01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:41,190
miserable. I should have played
first but I'm not playing it

1080
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:43,860
last just the code report UK PBS
one

1081
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,860
Unknown: in England pubs and
restaurants open today for the

1082
01:03:46,860 --> 01:03:50,160
first time since March. It's the
biggest step yet in the country

1083
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,670
is gradual easing of Coronavirus
restrictions. Patrons need to

1084
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:57,030
stay one meter or about three
feet from each other and no one

1085
01:03:57,030 --> 01:04:00,720
is allowed to stand at the bar
but mask wearing is optional.

1086
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:04,380
barbershops, museums and
libraries also reopen today with

1087
01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:07,680
social distancing restrictions.
But not all of the United

1088
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,710
Kingdom is opening each of the
UK is for nations England,

1089
01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:13,560
Scotland, Wales and Northern
Ireland are lifting restrictions

1090
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:14,460
independently.

1091
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:20,730
Adam Curry: The level is report
the Netherlands also has they

1092
01:04:20,730 --> 01:04:23,040
don't even call it a mask. I was
talking to a buddy of mine I

1093
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,680
said do you have masks? Their
mask is What do you mean masks?

1094
01:04:26,460 --> 01:04:29,460
Which is which is Musker. In
Dutch. They don't have they have

1095
01:04:29,490 --> 01:04:32,970
mouth caps. That's what they're
called multicopter mouth caps.

1096
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,680
Now only on public transport
nowhere else. I guess it's a

1097
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,630
different virus different virus.

1098
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:43,199
John C. Dvorak: There's there's
definitely a there's got to be

1099
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:46,889
some the left to trying to get
rid of Trump would love to, you

1100
01:04:46,889 --> 01:04:51,059
know, let this thing linger on
forever. But they've they've got

1101
01:04:51,059 --> 01:04:54,839
to have some mixed feelings
about this whole event and

1102
01:04:54,839 --> 01:04:58,619
public transportation which is a
big carrier of this thing,

1103
01:04:58,949 --> 01:05:01,799
because they're always there.
Oh, get rid of cars, we should

1104
01:05:01,799 --> 01:05:05,759
ride bikes and take buses. And
we should never have a car and

1105
01:05:05,759 --> 01:05:09,599
cars are bad petroleum and
they're bad things we should not

1106
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:12,089
have. We should have less and
less cars and more and more

1107
01:05:12,089 --> 01:05:14,909
buses and more and more public
transportation like they do in

1108
01:05:14,909 --> 01:05:18,839
Europe. Yeah. And this is gotta
be driving him nuts because

1109
01:05:18,989 --> 01:05:23,699
nobody wants to get on a Muni
bus anymore in San Francisco. In

1110
01:05:23,699 --> 01:05:26,939
fact, they've canceled 40 lines.
40 lines have been taken out of

1111
01:05:26,939 --> 01:05:28,139
service. Wow.

1112
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,720
Adam Curry: There's also no one
needs to go anywhere. Nothing

1113
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:30,900
go.

1114
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:33,930
John C. Dvorak: But if you need
to go you, you know, who wants

1115
01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:37,380
to take a bus and bid Bart is
like deserted, and it's still

1116
01:05:37,380 --> 01:05:37,830
running?

1117
01:05:38,070 --> 01:05:40,500
Adam Curry: I mean, you know,
they close. They close so much

1118
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:45,840
in Los Angeles to us like, I
mean, they're like, I heard that

1119
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,660
the Comedy Store probably will
not come back. They're just

1120
01:05:48,660 --> 01:05:52,230
going to be broke. Dawn. Yeah,
not going to come back. It's

1121
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:56,760
crazy. I have a few, like three
lingering clips that just

1122
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,830
pertain to the COVID unless you
have something else and we can

1123
01:05:58,830 --> 01:06:01,890
wrap it up. Now. Those are my
that's all I got. So with all of

1124
01:06:01,890 --> 01:06:08,850
this taking place, which is
ultimately the goal of a vaccine

1125
01:06:08,910 --> 01:06:13,740
is to create herd immunity. And
herd immunity means that enough

1126
01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:17,670
people are have the antibodies
or cannot catch it, and

1127
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:22,080
therefore transfer it that it
just really dies out because

1128
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,650
there's no one to pass it on to.
And whether you do that because

1129
01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:28,650
everyone got it, which was some,
in fact, the UK wanted to do

1130
01:06:28,650 --> 01:06:31,080
that initially probably would
have been a better strategy.

1131
01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:35,100
It's what we do with influenza.
We just wait until there's herd

1132
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:39,240
immunity. We try to do herd
immunity with the vaccine that

1133
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:43,890
often doesn't even work at all
and who knows. Dr. Ron Paul, who

1134
01:06:43,890 --> 01:06:47,460
I've followed since 2007, says
that we're pretty much there.

1135
01:06:47,490 --> 01:06:47,940
Hundreds of

1136
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,430
Unknown: herd immunity is
something that we've been

1137
01:06:50,970 --> 01:06:54,660
supporting. Yeah, nature
supports that herd

1138
01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:58,080
immunity to COVID 19 is just
around the corner. New studies

1139
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,080
say suggesting humans are
rapidly building natural

1140
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,710
protections against the virus.
That's according to at least two

1141
01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:08,310
new studies by the Karolinska
Institute in Sweden and the

1142
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:12,210
University Hospital to begin in
Germany. This study is finds at

1143
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:16,560
least 30% of humans now have
COVID specific antibodies, which

1144
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,220
means they've been exposed to
weak samples of the virus and

1145
01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:22,530
effectively equals a natural
vaccine

1146
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,490
herd immunity. Essentially here
it's coming. Like yesterday when

1147
01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:30,420
you put up the charts show where
the death levels were from the

1148
01:07:30,420 --> 01:07:34,530
Coronavirus, which is down to
zero as well. Maybe the epidemic

1149
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:35,160
is over.

1150
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:39,150
John C. Dvorak: as just an old
chart shows what I was talking

1151
01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:39,570
about.

1152
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:44,250
Adam Curry: Exactly, not just an
old Kook, you you and Ron Paul,

1153
01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:49,230
same old cooks and curries, he's
training to be one. However,

1154
01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:52,530
there's more cool data points
that we talked about here, such

1155
01:07:52,530 --> 01:07:56,640
as the spread through the air,
we had the top dog motifs to

1156
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:01,080
hold the dog, he says this thing
is being spread through the air,

1157
01:08:01,230 --> 01:08:05,760
you need to stay out of
conditions the air of air, but

1158
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,580
you have to have good
ventilation because it still

1159
01:08:08,580 --> 01:08:12,420
needs a viral load. So if you're
talking to someone face to face,

1160
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,120
it would likely take about 10
minutes before you had enough

1161
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,220
viral load until you

1162
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:22,650
John C. Dvorak: do a carbon copy
again. I think like in I don't

1163
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:26,250
know, January, February, March
at least we had a clip of a guy

1164
01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:29,250
who was a doctor who said the
only way you're going to get

1165
01:08:29,250 --> 01:08:32,580
this is from hand contact to do
with the actual viruses that you

1166
01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:36,660
bring to your face. Or you have
to be in the proximity of

1167
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:41,970
somebody with it for a long time
like 10 minutes. So we're not as

1168
01:08:41,970 --> 01:08:44,940
this continues. We're hearings
nothing new that we haven't

1169
01:08:44,940 --> 01:08:49,500
already on this show. discussed
in great detail back in

1170
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:50,640
February, March.

1171
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,570
Adam Curry: That's exactly
that's exactly what I was going

1172
01:08:54,570 --> 01:08:55,860
to point out. I'm gonna

1173
01:08:57,029 --> 01:08:57,809
Unknown: do it. I'm sorry. I

1174
01:08:57,809 --> 01:09:01,409
Adam Curry: stepped all over.
Oh, no, no, it's that's kind of

1175
01:09:01,409 --> 01:09:06,659
the point is like, we have been
if Austin if they say shut down

1176
01:09:06,659 --> 01:09:10,019
for 35 days, I am defying and
I'm gonna make a big fucking

1177
01:09:10,019 --> 01:09:11,819
deal about it. Because I haven't
acted

1178
01:09:11,820 --> 01:09:13,830
John C. Dvorak: whenever you
want your media services, I

1179
01:09:13,830 --> 01:09:16,560
guess you can go look at you
look at the order and you're

1180
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,290
going to find out that you're
exempt. So your debt you're

1181
01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:22,980
defying it is is is a Pyrrhic
victory.

1182
01:09:24,090 --> 01:09:28,050
Adam Curry: I'm going to stand
outside my hairdresser's salon

1183
01:09:28,050 --> 01:09:32,880
while she remains open and I
will be armed with my ar 15. Or

1184
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,410
do you believe me? I have we've
done the work. We've done the

1185
01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:40,290
research. We were not just we
just not going to buy into the

1186
01:09:40,290 --> 01:09:43,800
reporting of it. And to the scam
that is being pulled. I mean,

1187
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,820
the role being pulled over is no
no. And just to prove it,

1188
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:52,860
exactly what we said through
research with other types of

1189
01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:55,620
researchers who were deep
platformed and thrown off

1190
01:09:55,620 --> 01:09:58,170
mainstream because they didn't
have the right message but it

1191
01:09:58,170 --> 01:10:02,070
turns out yes, indeed. EAD
spreads through

1192
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:04,470
Unknown: there hundreds of the
world's top doctors, Elizabeth,

1193
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,340
are now warning 239 of them
signing this letter saying they

1194
01:10:08,340 --> 01:10:11,430
want more public acknowledgement
that the Coronavirus can float

1195
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:13,680
and be transmitted through air
droplets. But I have to say when

1196
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,300
I read this, I thought to
myself, don't we already

1197
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:19,080
Adam Curry: know this isn't?
Hold on, wait for that why

1198
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,240
Unknown: masks are so important,
right? This

1199
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,060
gets very confusing and sort of
a distinction that scientists

1200
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:26,730
understand. But sometimes it's
hard to really get it. So let's

1201
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:27,360
talk about this.

1202
01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:29,610
Adam Curry: In other words,
you're stupid. Whatever you're

1203
01:10:29,610 --> 01:10:31,860
thinking now you're stupid.
Mostly what

1204
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:34,260
Unknown: authorities have talked
about, you can see it on the CDC

1205
01:10:34,290 --> 01:10:37,860
webpage, is that it spreads
through sneezes, and coughs. In

1206
01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:40,590
other words, there has to be
something propelling it.

1207
01:10:40,620 --> 01:10:44,160
However, there has been a lot of
talk that even just breathing

1208
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,710
can spread it that you don't
really need that kind of

1209
01:10:46,830 --> 01:10:50,460
propelling to get it to get that
just to spread the virus. And

1210
01:10:50,490 --> 01:10:53,220
this is not a big secret, the
National Academy of Sciences

1211
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,980
told the White House this more
than three months ago that they

1212
01:10:55,980 --> 01:11:00,330
think just breathing can spread
this virus. And so now the

1213
01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:02,580
scientists, more than 200 of
them are telling the World

1214
01:11:02,580 --> 01:11:06,630
Health Organization, let's talk
about this. openly, the word

1215
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:10,830
airborne is scary. But let's
talk about this only that this

1216
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:14,040
does spread more easily. It
seems that's what studies are

1217
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,930
showing than people had first
thought,

1218
01:11:16,530 --> 01:11:21,300
Adam Curry: okay, so no, it's
not scary. You only need to be

1219
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:24,420
exactly where the government
tells you not to be you need to

1220
01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:29,790
be outside, if you're inside,
especially if the conditions are

1221
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:33,990
of humidity are there, then it's
going to hang in the air and

1222
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:37,260
then you walk around for 10
minutes. If someone has it, you

1223
01:11:37,290 --> 01:11:39,630
are probably going to get it if
that if you have if you have a

1224
01:11:39,630 --> 01:11:43,710
sick person, put them in their
bedroom, crack a window, make

1225
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:47,370
sure there's no ventilation is
going to be okay. Mass do not

1226
01:11:47,370 --> 01:11:50,550
work against this, you are
breathing air. It's not like

1227
01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:55,350
your little cloth mask that
you've been told this, okay is

1228
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:58,470
going to protect you, though.
You're all going to get it

1229
01:11:58,470 --> 01:12:04,770
because it's meant to be gotten
that way. It's there. In fact, I

1230
01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:08,640
believe that having a cloth
homemade mask is probably worse.

1231
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:13,890
But it's not super scary. That's
definitely not true. It's just

1232
01:12:13,890 --> 01:12:15,090
not super scary.

1233
01:12:17,340 --> 01:12:19,260
John C. Dvorak: I think the mask
is good because it gives people

1234
01:12:19,260 --> 01:12:22,500
a mild case of carbon dioxide
poisoning does

1235
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:25,230
Adam Curry: quite quickly,
actually a Jew does it quite

1236
01:12:25,230 --> 01:12:26,100
quickly buzz

1237
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:26,970
John C. Dvorak: but the mask

1238
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,650
Adam Curry: is only about it's
all about one thing. Politics,

1239
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,760
controlling the politics, being
able to identify the assholes

1240
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:39,240
show it according to whomever
showing that that that

1241
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,510
Republicans are idiots because
they had didn't have the mask.

1242
01:12:42,510 --> 01:12:45,630
And with increased testing. It's
a sleight of hand, it's a trick.

1243
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:48,330
Hey, you, you you open up your
shoe and you did it wrong.

1244
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,360
Awesome, by the way, did not
open up too soon. We really

1245
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,110
waited longer than most. But
okay. And then you increase the

1246
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:57,720
testing, you only talk about
testing. And now we've got to

1247
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,080
shut down. But now don't worry,
help us on the way the vaccine

1248
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,350
is coming. And they're
destroying people. They're

1249
01:13:04,350 --> 01:13:10,230
destroying people. The European
Union is trying to pass a law

1250
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:17,610
that says that in addition to an
pandemic, the world in the

1251
01:13:17,610 --> 01:13:22,260
European Union specifically has
suffered from an info demic of

1252
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:27,630
misinformation about COVID. And
they're writing up laws against

1253
01:13:27,630 --> 01:13:30,390
anyone saying something that
doesn't agree with the

1254
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:35,910
established scientists. And they
call it the info demic.

1255
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:41,250
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Now I want
to read beyond that list. I'm

1256
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:46,260
sorry. Would we be put on the
list of the verboten podcasts

1257
01:13:46,260 --> 01:13:47,580
the verboten podcast,

1258
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:49,410
Adam Curry: I think they're
gonna make it a little easier.

1259
01:13:50,490 --> 01:13:54,060
It's just going to be you can't
say certain things and otherwise

1260
01:13:54,060 --> 01:13:56,850
you'll be deep platformed
removed. I mean, they have all

1261
01:13:56,850 --> 01:14:00,990
that control over the social
media companies. They already

1262
01:14:00,990 --> 01:14:03,660
tell them to delete all kinds of
stuff. And UK you can't say

1263
01:14:03,660 --> 01:14:05,940
anything about a politician on
social media, you could get

1264
01:14:05,940 --> 01:14:11,640
arrested. I'm so happy to live
here. However, am I really? Do

1265
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:18,510
you remember? The State Senator
Scott Jensen, from Minnesota you

1266
01:14:18,510 --> 01:14:23,340
will when I tell you who said
hey, man, this coding of people

1267
01:14:23,550 --> 01:14:28,950
is is a bonanza is $39,000 to
code them as COVID Positive. He

1268
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:31,980
was the first one we played. We
played. All right. That was an

1269
01:14:31,980 --> 01:14:35,790
old clip a very old way back
when he's back.

1270
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:39,060
Unknown: Hi, Senator Scott
Johnson. I represent Carver

1271
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:42,120
County. This is one of the most
important videos I've made and

1272
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,970
one of the hardest. Frankly,
it's been a very difficult

1273
01:14:44,970 --> 01:14:48,300
decision to make whether I even
wanted to do it. Listen, a week

1274
01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:51,690
ago, I was notified by the Board
of Medical Practice in Minnesota

1275
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,550
that I was being investigated
because of public statements I'd

1276
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:59,970
made. They listen to
allegations. They said I've been

1277
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,630
spreading misinformation in
regards to the completion of

1278
01:15:03,660 --> 01:15:07,200
death certificates on a news
program, which happened to take

1279
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,160
place on April 7. And you could
find that one it was with Chris

1280
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,250
Berg, if you wanted to. And the
other allegation was that I

1281
01:15:14,250 --> 01:15:18,870
provided reckless advice, in my
willingness to compare COVID-19

1282
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:22,860
And the flip. When I got this
letter I was, and quite frankly,

1283
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:27,720
I leaned into the comfort,
wisdom on my family to help

1284
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,550
them, let them walk me and talk
me off the cliff. Doggone it, if

1285
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:35,580
this can happen to me, my view
is it could happen ever,

1286
01:15:35,610 --> 01:15:40,770
anybody. I mean, I've been a
family doc for 40 years. I work

1287
01:15:40,770 --> 01:15:43,950
hard. I love my patients, I do
host calls. I've been medical

1288
01:15:43,950 --> 01:15:47,880
directors, I've held staff
positions in hospitals to help

1289
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,940
make things work better. I've
been in the Senate for four

1290
01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:53,820
years, and I've learned a lot.
I've never had anything like

1291
01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:58,140
this happened. Five years ago, I
was named the missing family

1292
01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:02,640
doctor the year I did this
because a couple people

1293
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,250
complained. I don't get to know
who those people are.

1294
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:09,360
Adam Curry: Yeah, so he's maybe
upset about the process cares,

1295
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,140
maybe a bit upset about the
process. But the point is the

1296
01:16:13,170 --> 01:16:16,470
medical community and the
industry, which includes

1297
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:20,610
pharmaceuticals and education,
they won't allow this guy to

1298
01:16:20,610 --> 01:16:24,660
speak. They eventually his video
will be off YouTube, they're

1299
01:16:24,660 --> 01:16:28,320
investigating me it's making
lots of trouble making his life

1300
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,670
difficult, like we heard the
professor from, from the Nobel

1301
01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:36,060
society saying no one wants to
look at data that just had

1302
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:39,210
stopped talking like that. And
of course, this never gets to

1303
01:16:39,210 --> 01:16:42,510
the mainstream media. Because
when it's not an election year,

1304
01:16:43,860 --> 01:16:48,330
what are the ads running on the
mainstream media? It

1305
01:16:48,330 --> 01:16:52,950
pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical
ads, they completely control the

1306
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:57,120
messaging. And who are the
pharmaceutical companies out?

1307
01:16:57,150 --> 01:17:00,810
Oh, spoilered. China, they have
complete control. Now it's

1308
01:17:00,810 --> 01:17:04,950
getting less now. They have
incredible control over our

1309
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:09,690
medication, they have control
over the actual base materials

1310
01:17:09,690 --> 01:17:13,890
you need, even if you want to
assemble or produce in India. It

1311
01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:16,830
was also China who showed the
world the shutdown, which had

1312
01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:20,850
never been done before. on that
scale. We in my mind are under a

1313
01:17:20,850 --> 01:17:24,720
psychological attack with
complicit complicit behavior

1314
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:30,570
from several large
organizations, Disney, Comcast,

1315
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:37,830
and it has to stop we should
learn as Americans to channel

1316
01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:42,900
the bigotry and the hate and the
vile feelings we have for each

1317
01:17:42,930 --> 01:17:46,950
other at Black Lives Matter to
the CCP.

1318
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:51,120
John C. Dvorak: Well, that's
going to be my whole after the

1319
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,950
break. Presentation.

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Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,720
courage. I can't wait for it in
the morning to you the man who

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,950
puts the C in the block about
the CCP John C. Dvorak.

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01:18:02,730 --> 01:18:04,800
John C. Dvorak: Oh, well in the
morning do you Mr. Adam curry

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01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,410
also in the morning do all of
the boots on the ground feet in

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01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:09,720
the air subs in the water and
all the names and lights out

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01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:10,080
desk

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01:18:10,110 --> 01:18:12,600
Adam Curry: in the morning to
our to our roles. Let me count

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,200
them. They seem a little quiet
today. That's about right 14

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01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,250
Seven, he's about 1500 what we
what we expect on a Thursday,

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01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:23,400
the second Sunday of the week.
In the morning to you it says no

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,550
agenda stream.com That's where
you can hang out in live in our

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01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:30,330
troll room while you're
listening to the stream. And it

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01:18:30,330 --> 01:18:32,550
just keeps on going from there
after the show. There's another

1334
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:37,800
show or sometimes a podcast, no
commercials, it's all fun. And

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01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,370
you get to hang out with cool
people and troll. The hosts

1336
01:18:41,370 --> 01:18:44,790
troll the show the yellow about
this it's really a free for all

1337
01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:48,510
and it seems to work and while
you're there ask for an invite

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01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:52,920
for no agenda social.com This is
our social network which runs on

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,310
the federated Mastodon network
underground from all other

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01:18:56,310 --> 01:19:00,570
social networks. Very high
signal to noise ratio. And that

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01:19:00,570 --> 01:19:06,420
is no agenda. social.com And
then finally, I would like to

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01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:12,660
thank our artist for episode
1257 We titled that one doggy

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01:19:12,660 --> 01:19:20,430
DNA, I feel which was probably
an uninspired title. Which it

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01:19:20,430 --> 01:19:26,340
was but a lot of that was
because of the artwork. Which

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01:19:26,340 --> 01:19:31,320
was we found in the evergreens.
It was an incredible piece of

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01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:39,270
work from the J man 33 Orange
Man bad Trump's profile with the

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01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:43,590
orange MAN bad word showing his
that's his face in his neck. I

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01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:47,130
mean, it's the background is
Cheetos. We got a lot of

1349
01:19:47,130 --> 01:19:48,480
compliments about this one.

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01:19:50,730 --> 01:19:53,490
John C. Dvorak: was a nice
throwback piece dating is like a

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01:19:53,490 --> 01:19:54,540
Fillmore poster.

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01:19:55,349 --> 01:19:59,279
Adam Curry: I mean Fillmore east
or west. Fillmore Fillmore

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01:19:59,279 --> 01:20:00,779
Fillmore. No more. Yeah.

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01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:02,490
John C. Dvorak: First there was
the film more than there was the

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01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:05,490
Fillmore east and there was the
Fillmore West than winter land.

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01:20:05,850 --> 01:20:11,850
And the original Fillmore was
the place I'm referring to. It

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01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,570
was a vigil was a nice piece. I
don't know. I didn't know. We

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01:20:15,570 --> 01:20:19,200
don't know this guy. And it
probably irked a few of our

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01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,450
regular artists. I know they
were talking about it on the

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Twitter's

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01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:25,290
Adam Curry: Well, let's discuss
this because no one hit the mark

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01:20:25,290 --> 01:20:28,380
the way you know, just no one
hit the mark. So we went to the

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01:20:28,380 --> 01:20:31,170
evergreens found this, I can't
believe we missed it, or there

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01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:33,360
must have been something much
better or at the time that

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:33,930
happens.

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01:20:34,740 --> 01:20:36,660
John C. Dvorak: We normally
don't look at evergreens unless

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01:20:36,660 --> 01:20:38,910
we're stymied. Right.

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01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:42,540
Adam Curry: But that just just
it's everyone's stuff is really

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01:20:42,540 --> 01:20:47,430
busy. Sticking stuff all over
it, you know, now with 33 I

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01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:50,640
mean, you gotta be careful. You
know, these concept pieces are

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01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:57,270
really, really good. And just by
looking at the response on

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01:20:57,270 --> 01:21:00,990
Twitter, I think it does that it
does show a huge benefit. When

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you have sitelink thank

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John C. Dvorak: by the way I
also picked another mountain J

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01:21:04,290 --> 01:21:06,150
piece for the newsletter two in
a row.

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01:21:06,180 --> 01:21:08,910
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, no, but
this was this was not mountain

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J. This was no

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John C. Dvorak: this the other J
Yeah, it is we don't know this

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01:21:12,690 --> 01:21:15,000
person. So all right, well,

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01:21:15,059 --> 01:21:16,679
Adam Curry: but I don't want
anyone to think this is a

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01:21:16,679 --> 01:21:20,669
failure. You know, it's that's
how it goes. Sometimes we also

1382
01:21:20,669 --> 01:21:22,409
have a with we with the ball or

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01:21:22,410 --> 01:21:24,840
John C. Dvorak: some number of
shows that sometimes are hard to

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:25,620
do art for

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01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:28,860
Adam Curry: this is also true,
and sometimes we're just tired.

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01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,730
John C. Dvorak: It was an
element of that involved.

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01:21:33,930 --> 01:21:36,990
Adam Curry: So that's no agenda
art. generator.com Please go

1388
01:21:36,990 --> 01:21:40,860
have a look. You can participate
you can upload and there's many

1389
01:21:40,860 --> 01:21:45,420
ways that this art is utilized
show album art, newsletter art,

1390
01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:48,720
people print it out, put it up
in their homes, it's so good.

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01:21:48,990 --> 01:21:52,470
And also no agenda shop.com
where you can always find some

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01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:56,370
cool pieces and loud let us
thank our executive producers

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01:21:56,370 --> 01:22:00,990
and Associate Executive
producers for episode. What are

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01:22:00,990 --> 01:22:03,480
we at 1258 1258

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01:22:04,710 --> 01:22:08,190
John C. Dvorak: Well, we start
with Juliana Lee and Boonsboro

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01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:14,970
Maryland $400 And she sent a
check in wrote a note thank you

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01:22:14,970 --> 01:22:17,190
for all you do the no agenda
community needs you more than

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01:22:17,190 --> 01:22:21,480
ever and we love you dearly. The
rest of this note is for all the

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01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:28,530
producers and douchebags out
there old and new. One if you

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01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:30,990
think you need to agree with
John anatomy 100% of the time

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01:22:30,990 --> 01:22:33,390
you're missing the point the
show exists to teach you how to

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01:22:33,390 --> 01:22:34,950
think independently Hello.

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01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,840
Unknown: Yes to

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01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,170
John C. Dvorak: don't think
shrinking our amygdala is

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01:22:40,170 --> 01:22:44,910
enough. You need to increase
your frontal cortex as well.

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01:22:45,060 --> 01:22:50,940
Keep thinking rationally all the
time. Three. If you haven't yet

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01:22:50,940 --> 01:22:59,340
please go back and listen to
episode 850 208 re Readex that

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01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:04,590
Sha 200.8 I will give you it'll
give you great insight into no

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01:23:04,590 --> 01:23:07,470
agenda show and it explains a
lot of the inside jokes that's

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01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:11,100
show 200.8 Yes it was actually
show 850

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01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:14,190
Adam Curry: Oh okay 200.8 All
right good.

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01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:16,680
John C. Dvorak: Yes the show 200
We've done eight times

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01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:20,430
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think we
were tired it didn't wait. I

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01:23:20,430 --> 01:23:21,960
think we're kind of done well we
kind

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01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,390
John C. Dvorak: of did but we've
been talking about doing a newt

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01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:30,210
new 200 and rebooting it Yeah,
we have thought about it anyway

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01:23:30,210 --> 01:23:32,850
she's just helps you explain a
lot of the inside jokes if

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01:23:32,850 --> 01:23:36,210
you're white you're racist by
Secret Agent Paul is in order

1419
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,590
and at the end of show is fine
if the segments already too long

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:46,500
love and light Giuliana Lee I
wasn't at your jingle requested

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01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:47,940
racist Yeah,

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01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:51,540
Adam Curry: I have that and did
she want to karma or it's just I

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01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:51,690
would

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01:23:51,690 --> 01:23:53,670
John C. Dvorak: get I would
request karma for her

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01:23:56,790 --> 01:24:06,570
Unknown: you racist pig skin

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01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:31,590
John C. Dvorak: so don't just
you've got karma to get Okay,

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01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:33,210
let's do Miguel. Yeah, sure.
McGill.

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01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:37,560
Adam Curry: spinia from New
York, New York, Nueva York. Hey,

1429
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,100
what's poppin Alejandro and Jose
he says this is sent to me well

1430
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:44,430
from Washington Heights. I'd
like to first and foremost thank

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01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:48,600
you for just being some cool ass
dudes, y'all. Ninjas rock. I'm

1432
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,890
glad I'm reading this one. Yes,
y'all Ninja is rock Broseph.

1433
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:57,150
This donation amount has an
extra 50 cents because my

1434
01:24:57,150 --> 01:25:01,440
birthday is three 383 and his
amount is three Turn 33 and 83

1435
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:04,530
cents. As the COVID Scare
continues to grip the country

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01:25:04,530 --> 01:25:07,560
I'd like to I'd like you to see
things from the hood here in

1437
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,040
Washington Heights. This is very
helpful. Let's call it a boots

1438
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,460
on the ground donation.
Dominicans are back to partying

1439
01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:17,280
outside and making all kinds of
noise. The only thing that's

1440
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,980
changed is the fact that some
people wear face masks. Now with

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01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:22,620
the cops not really doing
anything about crime. It is

1442
01:25:22,620 --> 01:25:27,240
inching way up and I must say
good. I don't like the

1443
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,020
gentrification that was
occurring. Maybe this will scare

1444
01:25:31,170 --> 01:25:34,860
them into going away for a while
doubted though, the amount of

1445
01:25:34,860 --> 01:25:38,100
luxury high rises and office
space is being built is evident

1446
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:41,100
that all this rambunctious acts
are just until November and

1447
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:44,640
after elections, it's going back
the way shit was and the cops

1448
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,670
being the dicks that they are.
And I'd like to give a shout out

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01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:51,750
to Alex and Athena for inviting
my family and I into their home

1450
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:55,830
last Thursday, we smoked weed
ate pizza and just vibed out.

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01:25:56,100 --> 01:26:00,300
This is your no agenda profile.
Crazy shit is that Alex and

1452
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:05,040
Athena are the only white people
I know my whole life. I've only

1453
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,830
known white people in positions
of authority teachers,

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01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:11,250
principals, cops. Thank you for
giving my father karma as he's

1455
01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:14,790
out of the hospital had
tracheotomy surgery and lost 85

1456
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:17,580
pounds but as having the tube
removed next week, he's a lot

1457
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:21,270
stronger. He and I rarely spoke
and Rona has helped us become

1458
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:24,630
closer in life. I'd asked for
some jobs karma I lost mine with

1459
01:26:24,630 --> 01:26:27,690
COVID and was replaced by
someone who made a lot less in

1460
01:26:27,690 --> 01:26:30,510
the company is suffering for
doing that which makes me smile.

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01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:34,110
Alright live on an extremely
tight budget and get by by

1462
01:26:34,110 --> 01:26:37,260
hustling weed products
throughout the city. Follow me

1463
01:26:37,260 --> 01:26:41,370
on the Instagrams for those who
need medicinal needs and why

1464
01:26:41,370 --> 01:26:48,900
state of I NYSTATOFEYE Please
give me my best friend brother

1465
01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:52,470
cleantie out there in Austin
some karma for the family with

1466
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:54,840
the passing of his grandmother I
hope to meet you again soon

1467
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,960
blessings Blessings to you. Send
you a Magewell and thank you for

1468
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:03,150
that boots on the ground report
that is actually quite good. So

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01:27:03,150 --> 01:27:03,810
jobs karma

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01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,820
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for John.

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01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:11,790
Karma.

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John C. Dvorak: Michael Conti
follows up from Mansfield, Texas

1473
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:22,530
with $333.33 Here's my long
overdue contribution. He writes.

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,130
I skipped spending the
contribution before I reached

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01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:29,970
the Pay Pal app. I finally got
in the app with a little cash

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01:27:29,970 --> 01:27:33,510
Oh, here it is. Thanks for the
great work I'll try to be more

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01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:37,380
responsible a more responsible
listener but now I'm having to

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01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:41,850
buy masks for work exercise
shopping travel driving

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01:27:41,850 --> 01:27:45,180
association to have a master
driving social events and now

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01:27:45,180 --> 01:27:48,060
the beach so I don't know when I
can afford my next visit to the

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01:27:48,060 --> 01:27:51,120
Pay Pal. dealer's choice on the
jingles

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01:27:51,330 --> 01:27:53,190
Adam Curry: Michael ice will do
exactly that.

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01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,110
John C. Dvorak: The board trains
good planes

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01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:06,660
Unknown: you've got karma

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01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:15,900
John C. Dvorak: Mariela NOFO in
Pineville Oregon 333 A lot of

1486
01:28:15,900 --> 01:28:18,000
Oregonians that listen to this
show they should have more

1487
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,360
meetups well they're under in
trouble out what happened to our

1488
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,490
Grand Duke Melanson he seems to
be

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,430
Adam Curry: no you don't say
that because every single time

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01:28:26,430 --> 01:28:29,430
you say that he starts posting
pictures of himself looking just

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01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:31,860
fine okay good he's fine.

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01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:35,070
John C. Dvorak: ATM John anatomy
well I didn't know this. The

1493
01:28:35,070 --> 01:28:38,070
executive producer donation
takes me halfway to Dame hood

1494
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:39,210
where's he post them

1495
01:28:39,390 --> 01:28:40,290
Adam Curry: on Twitter?

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01:28:41,010 --> 01:28:42,930
John C. Dvorak: I said I'd use
Twitter by now

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01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,010
Adam Curry: Oh really? You're
done?

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01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:48,720
John C. Dvorak: Well I'm not
completely done but I would like

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01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,440
people who are on Twitter to put
get to follow me so I get my

1500
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:56,820
numbers back up. Oh yeah shadow
real divorce rack.

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01:28:58,710 --> 01:29:01,230
Adam Curry: Oh man what happens
is whenever you post people

1502
01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:03,690
unfollow you because you post
stuff that no no,

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01:29:03,690 --> 01:29:05,580
John C. Dvorak: they're not
following me. They're just

1504
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:08,190
posting about the show. They've
been following me for that. They

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01:29:08,190 --> 01:29:10,920
should have done it a long time
ago. Okay, that's a real divert

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01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,980
coming J add me getting somebody
out. There's a hacker out there

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01:29:13,980 --> 01:29:18,330
that shocked me know my numbers
up to 50,000 extras. Am I a

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01:29:18,330 --> 01:29:19,080
hacker you are

1509
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,330
Adam Curry: getting to the point
you're getting deployed. On

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01:29:21,330 --> 01:29:26,340
hacker. You're getting the
platform executive at Twitter,

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01:29:26,370 --> 01:29:29,700
ha Dvorak had some real DeVore
AK was saying he wants hackers

1512
01:29:29,700 --> 01:29:32,520
tied up his numbers who said God
I'm talking about that. You're

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01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:33,000
canceled?

1514
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,820
John C. Dvorak: I did. You're
canceled. Prineville Oregon

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01:29:35,820 --> 01:29:41,850
again. Going back to Mariela?
NOFO Yes. She had this takes her

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01:29:41,850 --> 01:29:44,220
halfway today. Mm hmm. I make it
today in celebration with my

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01:29:44,220 --> 01:29:48,480
husband Colin, the deaf, dumb
blind night we know him. My

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01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:51,240
rebirth day to the day I had
survived the death sentence of a

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01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:56,340
brain aneurysm on July 8 2017.
Oh, yes, we know Mariela. Yes,

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01:29:56,370 --> 01:29:59,460
well, it turns out I actually
have something in common with

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01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:04,650
wood. Bo Jaiden when I donate on
this day in 2018, I wrote that

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01:30:04,650 --> 01:30:07,830
no agenda was a crucial part of
my recovery through a two month

1523
01:30:07,830 --> 01:30:11,130
hospital stay and two brain
surgeries just like Joe Yep,

1524
01:30:11,190 --> 01:30:14,250
listening to it with my husband
kept me connected and engaged

1525
01:30:14,250 --> 01:30:16,980
with him while all of the other
memory and body functions were

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01:30:16,980 --> 01:30:20,400
failing me, but the brain health
benefits didn't stop there. As I

1527
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,050
reflected my third rebirth day,
I can honestly say that recovery

1528
01:30:25,050 --> 01:30:28,860
has not been easy. I still
suffer from chronic migraines as

1529
01:30:28,860 --> 01:30:32,820
my skull knits back together
some short term memory loss and

1530
01:30:32,820 --> 01:30:36,210
anxiety exists, but thanks to
this show, one thing I

1531
01:30:36,210 --> 01:30:39,360
definitely do not suffer from is
this terrible sickness the M

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01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:44,520
five n. M is inflicting on
society, overcoming the ability

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01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,420
of everyone I know and love to
think and feel rationally. So

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01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:52,320
people while you may struggle to
get access to hydroxychloroquine

1535
01:30:52,620 --> 01:30:56,880
for that pesky COVID-19 Remember
that the prescription for M five

1536
01:30:56,910 --> 01:31:03,420
M disease is simple. Listen to
no agenda. Thank you most

1537
01:31:03,420 --> 01:31:06,570
sincerely for continually being
my bastions of sanity. As I

1538
01:31:06,570 --> 01:31:09,090
navigate through the rest of my
life difficult. He's given me

1539
01:31:09,090 --> 01:31:12,810
one thing less to worry about.
Special thanks also to Adam, for

1540
01:31:12,810 --> 01:31:16,890
sharing my exposition on my
auditory processing research

1541
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:21,150
with the show earlier this year.
Just one way this amazing

1542
01:31:21,150 --> 01:31:24,750
community has shown that it will
uplift you and give you true a

1543
01:31:24,750 --> 01:31:27,960
true platform for great thoughts
and ideas no special access

1544
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:32,610
required. No special access
required. Jingle requests Tom

1545
01:31:32,610 --> 01:31:37,380
Sawyer rush version of the OTG
kind of guy turning the frogs

1546
01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:41,820
gay. Alex Jones followed by
Jordan Peterson that's wrong.

1547
01:31:42,270 --> 01:31:43,980
Respectfully Mariela.

1548
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:52,770
Unknown: John C Dvorak Bakelite.
Hi. He's an OTG kind of guy.

1549
01:31:56,220 --> 01:32:01,500
Everybody I don't like a button
chemicals in the water. It's

1550
01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:03,600
that turn the friggin frogs.
Gay.

1551
01:32:03,630 --> 01:32:09,990
Adam Curry: Wrong. That's the
wrong. You've got karma. That

1552
01:32:09,990 --> 01:32:13,800
wasn't Peterson. That was just a
wrong that wasn't Peterson.

1553
01:32:13,860 --> 01:32:17,190
That's wrong. I don't know what
happened to him. Peterson That's

1554
01:32:17,190 --> 01:32:22,740
wrong. That's wrong. No, we
don't have that anymore. For

1555
01:32:22,740 --> 01:32:24,210
some reason. Oh, noes.

1556
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:26,730
Unknown: Oh, in fact,

1557
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,050
John C. Dvorak: here it is. Of
course.

1558
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,020
Adam Curry: You knew it was
coming. That's wrong. Boom. Wow.

1559
01:32:31,050 --> 01:32:34,920
Did you just as an aside, did
you see the latest podcasts from

1560
01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:39,900
his daughter and Peterson
together? No. Yes. So she did a

1561
01:32:39,900 --> 01:32:43,320
family update, but it's her and
her dad. And he looks pretty,

1562
01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:48,510
pretty good. And they're in
Bulgaria. And they tell the

1563
01:32:48,510 --> 01:32:55,080
story of what happened. And oh
my god, I mean, it's it's it's

1564
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,830
crazy what they went through.
And he's still not out of the

1565
01:32:58,830 --> 01:33:01,380
woods. But but just the spoiler
let

1566
01:33:01,380 --> 01:33:03,300
John C. Dvorak: happen. You
know, I don't know any of this

1567
01:33:03,300 --> 01:33:05,400
would happen. I know. He gets
Yeah, so

1568
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,430
Adam Curry: his his wife got,
you know, basically cancer that

1569
01:33:08,430 --> 01:33:13,710
was incurable. And apparently he
had already been on SSRIs for

1570
01:33:13,710 --> 01:33:18,180
about 10 years. But then all
this grief and a lot of things

1571
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:23,790
were happening and so he was
prescribed benzos which is you

1572
01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:28,440
know, the benzo? I don't know
the full proper name. But it's

1573
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:32,250
basically it helps you get to
sleep and lowers anxiety. A lot

1574
01:33:32,250 --> 01:33:36,210
of people are on this. Here's
the thing that we now learn from

1575
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:40,890
the Petersons about benzos. At
diazepam, de Aza Pam is an

1576
01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:43,620
example. So anything that ends
in Pam is probably going to be a

1577
01:33:43,620 --> 01:33:50,310
benzo there, yes, there's a
mental addiction that is

1578
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:56,640
possible. But the actual
physical dependency is insane.

1579
01:33:56,820 --> 01:34:00,630
And if you try to stop and you
don't taper off, I wasn't

1580
01:34:00,630 --> 01:34:03,180
prepared for this. But there's
something called a kinesys or

1581
01:34:03,180 --> 01:34:07,110
something. And it feels like
like you don't know, if you want

1582
01:34:07,110 --> 01:34:09,870
to stand up, sit down, you rock
back and forth, which reminded

1583
01:34:09,870 --> 01:34:14,160
me of Bill Gates. And, and you
can feel like your skin is

1584
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:18,180
burning, and it's this horrible,
horrible state, and you and you

1585
01:34:18,180 --> 01:34:22,770
and you can't stop it, unless
you continue to take the benzos

1586
01:34:22,770 --> 01:34:26,130
and it's just a never ending
story. And then on top of that,

1587
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:31,770
they leave us with the fact that
Keith ledger, Whitney Houston,

1588
01:34:31,980 --> 01:34:39,720
Michael Jackson, men, and Nicole
Smith, they all died with benzos

1589
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,390
in their system. So it's
something that needs to be

1590
01:34:42,390 --> 01:34:45,570
looked at. It could actually be
worse than opioids, it could be

1591
01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:48,990
could be so anyway, it's
something to be seen. It's in

1592
01:34:48,990 --> 01:34:51,750
the show notes. I just love the
clips or anything. terrible,

1593
01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:56,280
horrible. It's really really but
man, that daughter what an

1594
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,760
angel. She took him around the
world Moscow in the middle of a

1595
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,750
pan endemic who says she was not
gonna let her dad die I'm very

1596
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:06,450
impressed and I hope I get the
same treatment from my kid

1597
01:35:10,290 --> 01:35:11,670
John C. Dvorak: why What do you
got going on?

1598
01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:15,030
Adam Curry: No I am worried if I
ever needed it ever needed it's

1599
01:35:15,030 --> 01:35:16,860
no of course nothing going on.

1600
01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:19,800
John C. Dvorak: Well Alex lures
next on the list Associate

1601
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,770
Executive producer from Kill
Devil Hills in North Carolina

1602
01:35:22,770 --> 01:35:30,300
tuna $34.58. In the morning, you
both tis I Aleksey ignite films

1603
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:34,830
a Hollywood southern Hollywood
outfit you know anything maybe I

1604
01:35:34,830 --> 01:35:38,370
can come down I can you know
just play a bar key by Capet I'm

1605
01:35:38,370 --> 01:35:41,640
a cashier at a store John's
lucky shoot um,

1606
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,920
Adam Curry: have you never had a
big part in anything?

1607
01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:47,670
John C. Dvorak: I've been in a
couple of TV little things,

1608
01:35:47,730 --> 01:35:49,500
Adam Curry: but you want to be
in a motion picture you want to

1609
01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:52,560
be in a property that's on the
big screen on the big screen the

1610
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,570
silver screen your name and
lights.

1611
01:35:55,620 --> 01:35:57,630
John C. Dvorak: As my father
mentioned, we will be hosting

1612
01:35:57,630 --> 01:36:00,060
the first ever Outer Banks in
North Carolina meet up and we

1613
01:36:00,060 --> 01:36:03,840
couldn't be more excited a quick
note for attendees. Don't bring

1614
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,140
blankets or water just bring
your cash. This is the cash only

1615
01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:11,430
bar we look forward to a totally
hinged evening of beers

1616
01:36:11,460 --> 01:36:15,510
conversation and general
debauchery. John Adams Thank you

1617
01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:19,500
for keeping our amygdala small
and our third eyes unsheathed

1618
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:24,660
Amen fist bump give me some of
that sweet sweet karma Alex

1619
01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:28,950
Brewer Oak Hill Devil Hills,
North Carolina.

1620
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,300
Unknown: Hey man fist bump.

1621
01:36:32,490 --> 01:36:34,140
You've got karma.

1622
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,290
Adam Curry: Now what is this? We
go from Alex brewer to Arthur

1623
01:36:40,290 --> 01:36:40,860
Brewer.

1624
01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:44,400
John C. Dvorak: Arthur Brewer.
Is anvil Tennessee.

1625
01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:47,430
Adam Curry: I must be oh look at
the numbers so they did

1626
01:36:47,460 --> 01:36:49,830
John C. Dvorak: 23457 Hello.

1627
01:36:50,549 --> 01:36:52,799
Adam Curry: I think they wanted
to have his dad first. He should

1628
01:36:52,799 --> 01:36:55,109
have had the five eight instead
of the five seven.

1629
01:36:55,710 --> 01:36:59,070
John C. Dvorak: Well, here we go
ITM jazz fourth time producer

1630
01:36:59,070 --> 01:37:01,590
longtime listener love to show
no agenda is indeed the best

1631
01:37:01,590 --> 01:37:04,830
podcast in the universe. I would
like to shamelessly plug our

1632
01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:09,000
upcoming meetup on July 11 7pm.
At the blue crab cavities are

1633
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,740
competing meetups the same one
same one shirt blue clinic

1634
01:37:13,740 --> 01:37:17,460
versus cow K. Okay Kill Devil
Hills right. My lovely and

1635
01:37:17,460 --> 01:37:20,640
gracious wife Deborah and I are
driving over from Tennessee to

1636
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,330
join fellow producers and our
son Alex brewer in hosting the

1637
01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:28,530
meetup. Hope to meet some other
free thinkers, drink some beers

1638
01:37:28,530 --> 01:37:33,870
and have a great time anyways.
Anyways, take care and keep on

1639
01:37:33,870 --> 01:37:41,010
truckin man, keep on truckin no
jingles no karma or through your

1640
01:37:41,010 --> 01:37:43,980
once and fugitive King from brew

1641
01:37:44,220 --> 01:37:46,560
Adam Curry: future. Not
fugitive.

1642
01:37:47,130 --> 01:37:49,440
John C. Dvorak: Oh once in
fugitive king. Oh, what's your

1643
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:52,770
future king? Oh, I see Brewer
Madisonville not fugitive

1644
01:37:52,830 --> 01:37:53,490
future.

1645
01:37:54,300 --> 01:38:01,140
Adam Curry: Nicholas Vargo. $210
place unknown United States Oh,

1646
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,380
Medina, Ohio goat karma. First
of all, please do Do

1647
01:38:06,030 --> 01:38:07,530
Unknown: you spend he do.

1648
01:38:09,210 --> 01:38:11,250
Adam Curry: I will be attending
the no agenda meetup in

1649
01:38:11,250 --> 01:38:15,810
Northeast Ohio on Friday, and I
can't bear to face it without

1650
01:38:15,810 --> 01:38:18,540
supporting the best podcast on
Earth. According to some

1651
01:38:18,540 --> 01:38:21,810
undisclosed sources familiar
with their thinking. I would

1652
01:38:21,810 --> 01:38:24,930
like to thank you for the twice
weekly amygdala shrinkage that

1653
01:38:24,930 --> 01:38:29,940
you provide me and sometimes my
begrudging fiance. I would also

1654
01:38:29,940 --> 01:38:33,240
like to thank sir Joby Juan for
introducing me to the no agenda

1655
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:37,050
show after a rant I gave him
about the lives of the M five m

1656
01:38:37,050 --> 01:38:40,290
cube the hard work and please
give me a helping of goat karma.

1657
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:40,650
Got it?

1658
01:38:42,810 --> 01:38:43,530
Unknown: You've got

1659
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,120
John C. Dvorak: a look at this
bear and Mark Tanner tuner one

1660
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:54,030
dollars from Whittier,
California. He comes in every

1661
01:38:54,030 --> 01:38:57,990
two weeks with a smaller
donation but he comes into town

1662
01:38:58,020 --> 01:39:01,470
just to say this. This is a
return for Adams anniversary

1663
01:39:01,470 --> 01:39:06,840
call out. Thank you, Aaron Mark
Robinson. Oh, nice. Yeah, what

1664
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:12,090
was nice to you, Sarah FEYERICK
in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

1665
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,510
longtime listener first time
donor de douching is an order

1666
01:39:17,250 --> 01:39:19,080
Unknown: you've been reduced.

1667
01:39:21,390 --> 01:39:23,580
John C. Dvorak: My smokin hot
husband hit me in the mouth a

1668
01:39:23,580 --> 01:39:26,550
few years ago. I only was
listening when he would play it.

1669
01:39:26,850 --> 01:39:29,820
Now I download the episodes
myself and try to listen to the

1670
01:39:29,820 --> 01:39:33,510
show even before he does, so I
can beat him to the punch lines

1671
01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:38,040
of the jokes. The show has given
us quality conversations

1672
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,040
together you have been the
breath of fresh air that we need

1673
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,400
in our current society. I didn't
realize how much I genuinely

1674
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,820
enjoy my time listening to you
with my husband until there was

1675
01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:51,240
a week I was too busy and missed
a few episodes. Thank you for

1676
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:55,200
the shrinking of the amygdala I
find myself saying that's true

1677
01:39:55,230 --> 01:39:58,560
at work. We could use a little
jobs commerce thing How am I

1678
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,680
smokin hot has been starts a new
Java naugus Now I need to find

1679
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,160
myself a new adventure in the
job world myself. Thank you,

1680
01:40:05,190 --> 01:40:05,760
Sara.

1681
01:40:06,779 --> 01:40:11,999
Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs

1682
01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:21,600
John C. Dvorak: now, Kelly from
Minnesota, sends a tune in check

1683
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,660
in and a note and I will say
this she does mention it in

1684
01:40:24,660 --> 01:40:33,030
here. She sent some pottery, oh,
three pieces, and they were

1685
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:35,700
dated differently and you can
tell that she's become a really

1686
01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:40,020
outstanding professional Potter.
And she's gonna send you some

1687
01:40:40,020 --> 01:40:44,190
pieces. And she mentioned that
in the note her large bowl I

1688
01:40:44,190 --> 01:40:48,540
will mention for her benefit is
outstanding. Please accept my

1689
01:40:48,540 --> 01:40:52,440
first donation. I've been
listening for five years now and

1690
01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:56,250
ever since a dear friend
introduced me to you. This isn't

1691
01:40:56,610 --> 01:41:02,460
longhand that is is kind of,
it's pretty, but it's hard. It's

1692
01:41:02,460 --> 01:41:05,370
not necessarily easy to read. We
were together for five years

1693
01:41:05,370 --> 01:41:09,930
although the first year wasn't
exclusive for him and the last

1694
01:41:09,930 --> 01:41:14,340
couple have had some rough
patches. Oops. You know, I'm

1695
01:41:14,340 --> 01:41:18,780
saying you know what I'm saying
on Mother's Day, he's a special

1696
01:41:18,780 --> 01:41:22,050
man who has a privileged place
in my heart. So please send him

1697
01:41:22,050 --> 01:41:26,820
some relationship karma this
fall I am entering a new a new

1698
01:41:26,820 --> 01:41:31,410
outlook says new district full
time teaching language arts new

1699
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:34,770
school district I guess. And so
she needs some job karma for

1700
01:41:34,770 --> 01:41:37,980
that. John has sent you some
pottery I started to sell this

1701
01:41:37,980 --> 01:41:41,730
year at the farmers market every
Saturday if I could also send

1702
01:41:41,730 --> 01:41:45,270
some pottery making ants and
selling karma so she needs

1703
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:48,480
pottery making and selling karma
that would be great. Next time

1704
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:52,530
I'll send some to Adam no
jingles but John if you could

1705
01:41:52,530 --> 01:41:57,030
say oh brother followed by Adam
saying fantastic that would be

1706
01:41:57,060 --> 01:42:02,220
perfect. Both of you feel like
family like every other listener

1707
01:42:02,250 --> 01:42:09,120
I'm so big so grateful for the
work you guys do keep it up big

1708
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,050
hugs Kelly so we have to sad to
say oh brother and then you say

1709
01:42:13,050 --> 01:42:14,280
fantastic okay

1710
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,240
Unknown: so brother Fantastic.

1711
01:42:19,770 --> 01:42:20,610
John C. Dvorak: All right. Well
one

1712
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,000
Adam Curry: one take everybody
but she did ask for some karma.

1713
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,640
Then she said she didn't I want
to make sure she gets in just in

1714
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:27,090
case.

1715
01:42:27,900 --> 01:42:29,580
Unknown: You've got karma.

1716
01:42:31,470 --> 01:42:34,800
John C. Dvorak: Karma that is
our last donor secutor Associate

1717
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,190
Executive Producer for show 12
FDA. We want to thank all the

1718
01:42:38,190 --> 01:42:40,890
executive producers and
Associate Executive producers

1719
01:42:41,220 --> 01:42:43,920
for helping make this show
possible because you did make it

1720
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:44,490
possible.

1721
01:42:44,820 --> 01:42:49,170
Adam Curry: Yes. And I have two
mentions here first is I got

1722
01:42:49,170 --> 01:42:53,940
from the back office although I
don't see it reflected from Lady

1723
01:42:53,940 --> 01:42:59,010
when Miller according to my
records. My $33.33 a month

1724
01:42:59,010 --> 01:43:02,520
started about three years ago
with other monetary computed

1725
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,490
contributions over the past 10
plus years qualifies me as a

1726
01:43:05,490 --> 01:43:09,810
dame so that so we wouldn't read
this during the segment I want

1727
01:43:09,810 --> 01:43:13,320
to make sure we do if possible.
Could this be done around July 8

1728
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,740
My birthday? Well, isn't that a
coincidence? How cool is that?

1729
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,980
Yes, what a wonderful president
this will be words cannot

1730
01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:23,040
express my deep humility and how
and the great honor that I feel

1731
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,910
to finally wear this lofty
title. I offer my solemn vow to

1732
01:43:26,910 --> 01:43:29,310
always live up to the many high
expectations that come with it

1733
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,480
daunting as they may be the dame
name that I chose is Lady one of

1734
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:37,140
the lakes if you wouldn't mind
I'd like to have spicy my posts

1735
01:43:37,170 --> 01:43:45,570
to to mapo tofu if you if you
wouldn't mind I do you guys have

1736
01:43:45,570 --> 01:43:50,880
that. What is it? I don't know
mapo tofu and Mojito is at the

1737
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,420
roundtable it's ordered please
send an F cancer and jobs karma

1738
01:43:54,420 --> 01:43:57,300
for us with gratitude when
Miller of course we can do that

1739
01:43:57,300 --> 01:43:57,660
for you

1740
01:43:57,690 --> 01:44:02,400
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs Let's vote for Joe

1741
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:09,660
karma and

1742
01:44:10,650 --> 01:44:12,570
Adam Curry: this is kind of
interesting to your call a

1743
01:44:12,780 --> 01:44:17,910
couple shows ago i Someone had
sent a bunch of hair Vicki had

1744
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:20,430
sent me a whole bunch of
haircare products and make your

1745
01:44:20,430 --> 01:44:24,810
hair grow with a $200 check now
she sent the cheque to me. So

1746
01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:26,850
that's been mailed off to the
PIO box. So she'll get her

1747
01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:30,840
official, Associate Executive
Producer ship. And I and I

1748
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:37,350
mentioned this to you, I must
have received 10 emails of

1749
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:41,010
people saying doo doo doo dude,
what was it? Tell me what where?

1750
01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:44,250
What's your website? I want
stuff that makes my hair grow.

1751
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:48,690
So I feel obliged to say that
the happy hair formula.com is

1752
01:44:48,690 --> 01:44:53,130
Vicki's personal website and let
us know how that works out for

1753
01:44:53,130 --> 01:44:55,290
you. That could be kind of
interesting. We could we could

1754
01:44:55,290 --> 01:44:57,390
eventually have the official
haircare product of the new

1755
01:44:57,390 --> 01:45:01,650
agenda show if it's any good and
no agenda haircare haircare

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01:45:01,650 --> 01:45:02,130
products

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01:45:02,250 --> 01:45:05,670
John C. Dvorak: just like the T
shirts. nap for humanity.

1758
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:09,090
Adam Curry: This. There's some
other guys who were talking

1759
01:45:09,090 --> 01:45:13,050
about some coffee. I just want
to make it clear. Like hey man,

1760
01:45:13,050 --> 01:45:15,870
we'd like to put that no agenda
logo on the coffee and we'll

1761
01:45:15,870 --> 01:45:20,310
give you a third. No, no, no,
no, no, no. If we like a

1762
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:24,540
product, we may endorse it. I
don't know about having our logo

1763
01:45:24,540 --> 01:45:27,660
on it. I don't think that's the
right way to go. What do you

1764
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:27,990
think?

1765
01:45:30,330 --> 01:45:31,890
John C. Dvorak: Well, a couple
of things.

1766
01:45:32,610 --> 01:45:34,800
Adam Curry: Do I hear an exit
strategy we

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01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,800
John C. Dvorak: had we had a no
agenda beer out of Australia as

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01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,340
you recall. Yes, that's true.
Yeah. And it had our logo with a

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01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:45,960
kind of a logo on it. And we've
had other products that all the

1770
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,660
T shirts are done by this shop
and got the logo all over I

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01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:52,050
don't see why as a prop YT all
of a sudden we hate coffee.

1772
01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:56,430
Adam Curry: I don't I would like
to test the taste the coffee

1773
01:45:57,660 --> 01:46:00,060
before becomes official no
agenda coffee is that

1774
01:46:00,420 --> 01:46:03,420
John C. Dvorak: now that's
different now, I will I will say

1775
01:46:03,420 --> 01:46:06,720
this. I will agree with that
show. We need a couple of pounds

1776
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,210
of coffee and then we you can
put Yeah,

1777
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,880
Adam Curry: I mean a little
micro brew from Australia man.

1778
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,180
By the way, it wasn't even that
micro made it all the way to the

1779
01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:17,250
US it was selling it was

1780
01:46:17,250 --> 01:46:19,530
John C. Dvorak: a monster. It's
a big he's actually a big

1781
01:46:19,530 --> 01:46:20,550
microbrewery

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01:46:21,450 --> 01:46:24,300
Adam Curry: a big micro brewery
fantastic. Yeah, it

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01:46:24,300 --> 01:46:26,670
John C. Dvorak: makes no sense.
But there it is. Alright,

1784
01:46:26,670 --> 01:46:27,210
everybody, thank

1785
01:46:27,210 --> 01:46:30,300
Adam Curry: you so much. These
executive and Associate

1786
01:46:30,300 --> 01:46:34,170
Executive producers have here by
the title of executive producer

1787
01:46:34,170 --> 01:46:38,190
for the no agenda Show episode
1258. You can use that anywhere

1788
01:46:38,190 --> 01:46:42,720
titles are appreciated and
recognize. We of course, suggest

1789
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,890
your resume and your LinkedIn or
anything else. Or maybe just

1790
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,380
print up some business cards,
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1791
01:46:49,380 --> 01:46:53,700
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1792
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:56,760
becoming a producer or executive
executive producer or Associate

1793
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,030
Executive Producer, we will be
doing this again on Sunday. We

1794
01:47:00,030 --> 01:47:03,030
look forward to it and we look
forward to support all you have

1795
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:08,910
to do is go to wcco.org/and I
think you've gotten pretty up to

1796
01:47:08,910 --> 01:47:11,790
speed on everything that is
COVID and act number three

1797
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:16,290
Unknown: our formula is this we
go out for yet people in the

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01:47:16,290 --> 01:47:16,560
mouth

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01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,520
John C. Dvorak: I caught it just
this last week Christopher Ray

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01:47:39,810 --> 01:47:42,870
gave a lecture at the Hudson

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01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:45,540
Adam Curry: Hudson Institute now
wait Christopher Ray, is he the

1802
01:47:45,540 --> 01:47:47,430
FBI boss now? Yeah, he's

1803
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:48,390
John C. Dvorak: the FBI box.

1804
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:52,980
Adam Curry: Was this guy a part?
I'm always confused. Was he a

1805
01:47:52,980 --> 01:47:57,000
part of the scam with Comey was
he in that group was the one of

1806
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:01,200
the the cronies running around.
I

1807
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,930
John C. Dvorak: mean, not that
anyone can tell he came in late

1808
01:48:03,930 --> 01:48:06,870
in the game, Trump brought him
in put him in there. He hasn't,

1809
01:48:06,930 --> 01:48:12,210
you know, it hasn't busted, you
know, gone through and audited

1810
01:48:12,210 --> 01:48:15,390
the FBI or anything but he's
definitely on board with this

1811
01:48:15,390 --> 01:48:20,220
antha which is not anti but this
China's stuff Ah, good. And so

1812
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:22,860
he gives a lecture here and this
is a little long, it's got

1813
01:48:22,890 --> 01:48:25,320
there's six parts to it. But
it's a couple of them are short,

1814
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,200
a couple of them are long,
unfortunately. But it's so good.

1815
01:48:28,590 --> 01:48:31,710
Because he names names he names
cases and a lot of the stuff

1816
01:48:31,710 --> 01:48:36,120
we'd never heard about the the M
five M doesn't discuss it to any

1817
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,940
extreme. Like they remember
every time there was a terrorist

1818
01:48:38,940 --> 01:48:44,310
some dumb screw, you know, some
low IQ guys in Florida, if you

1819
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:48,600
recall, it will blow up the
White House. And they you know,

1820
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,130
they bless these guys

1821
01:48:50,850 --> 01:48:53,910
Adam Curry: on the six week
cycle over it. Of course, when

1822
01:48:54,150 --> 01:48:54,480
when it's

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01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:56,880
John C. Dvorak: not over any of
this, what you're going to hear

1824
01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:03,210
here is all set for a couple
items is fairly new to me. And

1825
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,810
the media doesn't cover because
the media as we as you mentioned

1826
01:49:06,810 --> 01:49:12,510
earlier, is controlled by the
Chinese, the CCP for sure. And

1827
01:49:12,510 --> 01:49:15,510
so we're gonna hear a little bit
about how it how controlling

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01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:18,960
they are with the dead. This
went on for a good maybe an

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01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,740
hour. I only have like, you
know, maybe 10 minutes of it.

1830
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,090
But I tried to pull out the best
stuff. This is Ray on China

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01:49:27,090 --> 01:49:28,530
Hudson Institute one,

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01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,560
Unknown: the greatest long term
threat to our nation's

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01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:35,520
information and intellectual
property. And to our economic

1834
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,430
vitality is the
counterintelligence and economic

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01:49:38,430 --> 01:49:42,870
espionage threat from China is a
threat to our economic security

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01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:47,760
and by extension to our national
security. As National Security

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01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:52,260
Adviser, O'Brien said in his
recent remarks, we cannot close

1838
01:49:52,260 --> 01:49:56,370
our eyes and years to what
China's doing. And today, in

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01:49:56,370 --> 01:49:59,970
light of the importance of this
threat, I will provide more D

1840
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,230
detail on the Chinese threat and
the FBI has ever presented nice

1841
01:50:04,260 --> 01:50:08,670
in an open forum. This threat is
so significant that the Attorney

1842
01:50:08,670 --> 01:50:11,760
General and the Secretary of
State will also be addressing a

1843
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,460
lot of these issues in the next
few weeks,

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01:50:14,940 --> 01:50:19,260
Adam Curry: which is true.
Pompeo just did this huge thing

1845
01:50:19,260 --> 01:50:22,620
on Ingraham show all about
China. I didn't clip it for

1846
01:50:22,620 --> 01:50:25,020
today, because we're already
full. But yeah, there's a

1847
01:50:25,020 --> 01:50:28,050
definite push from the
administration doing this. But

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01:50:28,050 --> 01:50:29,760
if you think these issues

1849
01:50:29,790 --> 01:50:32,790
Unknown: are just an
intelligence issue, or a

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01:50:32,820 --> 01:50:36,450
government problem, or a
nuisance, largely just for big

1851
01:50:36,450 --> 01:50:39,120
corporations who can largely
take care of themselves, you

1852
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:43,410
could not be more wrong. It's
the people of the United States

1853
01:50:43,410 --> 01:50:46,920
who are the victims of what
amounts to Chinese theft on a

1854
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,850
scale so massive, that it
represents one of the largest

1855
01:50:50,970 --> 01:50:55,050
transfers of wealth in human
history, if you're an American

1856
01:50:55,050 --> 01:51:00,270
adult, is more likely than not
that China has stolen your

1857
01:51:00,300 --> 01:51:05,850
personal data. In 2017, the
Chinese military conspired to

1858
01:51:05,850 --> 01:51:09,150
hack Equifax and made off with
the sensitive personal

1859
01:51:09,150 --> 01:51:14,190
information of 150 million
Americans, we're talking nearly

1860
01:51:14,190 --> 01:51:20,340
half of the American population
and most American adults. And as

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01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:23,670
I'll discuss in a few moments,
this was hardly a standalone

1862
01:51:23,670 --> 01:51:28,710
incident. Our data isn't the
only thing at stake here. So our

1863
01:51:28,710 --> 01:51:34,410
health, our livelihoods, and our
security. We've now reached the

1864
01:51:34,410 --> 01:51:38,730
point where the FBI is opening a
new China related

1865
01:51:38,730 --> 01:51:41,670
counterintelligence case about
every 10 hours.

1866
01:51:42,509 --> 01:51:45,539
Adam Curry: This is interesting.
We probably didn't hear about

1867
01:51:45,539 --> 01:51:52,679
this, because the news broke on
February 10 2020. Which, and

1868
01:51:52,679 --> 01:51:55,919
it's all over when you see it.
Equifax breach how Chinese armor

1869
01:51:56,219 --> 01:52:00,989
army hackers allegedly stole
it's all about the China's stole

1870
01:52:00,989 --> 01:52:04,409
America's personal data. I don't
recall this at all. Of course,

1871
01:52:04,409 --> 01:52:08,909
we were probably looking at
Corona. At that

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01:52:08,910 --> 01:52:11,670
John C. Dvorak: point, is this a
recent hack? Because the Equifax

1873
01:52:11,670 --> 01:52:14,520
hack is as I recall, it was two
years ago.

1874
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:17,430
Adam Curry: Yes. But this is
this is the they filed an

1875
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:19,140
indictment against China.

1876
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,650
John C. Dvorak: Oh, no. We know
about the hack from two years

1877
01:52:22,650 --> 01:52:24,150
ago, because we discussed it on
the show.

1878
01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:26,430
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, we didn't
know. We didn't have a China.

1879
01:52:26,460 --> 01:52:29,520
No, we did. Well, it's in the
news. But it was never report.

1880
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:29,640
And

1881
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:32,250
John C. Dvorak: you're right. It
was never clear. It was China.

1882
01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:33,210
And by the way,

1883
01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:37,530
Adam Curry: that's interesting
that well, reminder that we

1884
01:52:37,530 --> 01:52:42,780
signed a deal with China in
January, which of course,

1885
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:46,710
they're full of crap when
signing it. So who knows it was

1886
01:52:46,710 --> 01:52:50,100
not intended to be brought out
to the front. Whatever it is no

1887
01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:52,890
major headlines. I don't see a
New York Times article about it,

1888
01:52:52,890 --> 01:52:53,580
that's for sure.

1889
01:52:54,690 --> 01:52:57,300
John C. Dvorak: No, this stuff
is everything you're gonna hear

1890
01:52:57,300 --> 01:53:02,790
in these five clips expressing
is suppressed. And this is the

1891
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:06,030
head of the FBI who and I don't
know that he goes out and on the

1892
01:53:06,030 --> 01:53:09,900
speaking tour, ever. I mean, he
comes to the Hudson Institute,

1893
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:13,320
and he does this long talk where
he's and I'm only like I say

1894
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,320
clipping parts of there's a lot
of stuff in here. I would

1895
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,380
recommend people go look it up
and go listen for themselves.

1896
01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:25,020
It's quite interesting. But it's
definitely interesting. So the

1897
01:53:25,020 --> 01:53:29,010
next clip would be zero to one
here. No, you

1898
01:53:29,010 --> 01:53:30,810
Adam Curry: have a two optional
Yeah. To

1899
01:53:31,020 --> 01:53:33,150
John C. Dvorak: the two this is
an optional clip but I don't you

1900
01:53:33,150 --> 01:53:37,530
want to hear it is just a short
one minute. This is a this was a

1901
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,170
not as good a clip as the rest
of the

1902
01:53:40,170 --> 01:53:44,160
Unknown: nearly 5000 active FBI
counterintelligence cases. Oh,

1903
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:44,970
yeah, horrible clip.

1904
01:53:44,970 --> 01:53:45,870
Adam Curry: I don't want to
listen to it.

1905
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,820
Unknown: currently underway
across the country, almost half,

1906
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:56,190
are all related to China. And at
this very moment, China is

1907
01:53:56,190 --> 01:53:59,280
working to compromise American
healthcare organizations,

1908
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:03,360
pharmaceutical companies, and
academic institutions conducting

1909
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:08,610
essential COVID-19 research, we
need to be clear eyed about the

1910
01:54:08,610 --> 01:54:12,660
scope of the Chinese
government's ambition. China,

1911
01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:16,680
the Chinese Communist Party
believes it's in a generational

1912
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,730
fight to surpass our country in
economic and technological

1913
01:54:20,730 --> 01:54:25,740
leadership. That's sobering
enough. But it's waging that

1914
01:54:25,740 --> 01:54:30,150
fight, not through legitimate
innovation, not through fair and

1915
01:54:30,150 --> 01:54:34,140
lawful competition and not by
giving their citizens the

1916
01:54:34,140 --> 01:54:38,310
freedom of thought and speech
and creativity that we treasure

1917
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:43,380
here in the United States.
Instead, China is engaged in a

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01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:48,240
whole estate effort to become
the world's only superpower by

1919
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:49,470
any means necessary.

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01:54:49,709 --> 01:54:52,589
Adam Curry: Wow, this is a great
talk and it's good because the

1921
01:54:52,589 --> 01:54:56,669
only people I hear bitching
about it is podcasters and

1922
01:54:56,669 --> 01:55:00,599
YouTubers, even not even the
youtubers honestly It was nice

1923
01:55:00,629 --> 01:55:02,969
nice to hear it from some
authority for once

1924
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:05,280
John C. Dvorak: yeah the
youtubers that would bitch about

1925
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:10,410
this are getting being different
taken off exactly Okay, let's go

1926
01:55:10,410 --> 01:55:14,610
to this is the the harried
discusses the $1,000 program.

1927
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,760
Now this is we do know a little
bit about this and here we go

1928
01:55:17,820 --> 01:55:18,240
through its

1929
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,880
Unknown: Talent Recruitment
programs like the so called 1000

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01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,970
talents program the Chinese
government tries to entice

1931
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:28,110
scientists to secretly bring our
knowledge and innovation back to

1932
01:55:28,110 --> 01:55:32,070
China, even if that means
stealing proprietary

1933
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:36,600
information, or violating our
export controls, and conflict of

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01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:41,820
interest rules. Take the case of
scientists Han Jin tan, for

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01:55:41,820 --> 01:55:45,720
example, a Chinese national and
American lawful permanent

1936
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:51,210
resident, he applied to China's
1000 talents program and stole

1937
01:55:51,210 --> 01:55:55,860
more than 1 billion. That's what
the be worth of trade secrets

1938
01:55:55,860 --> 01:55:59,550
from his former employer, an
Oklahoma based petroleum company

1939
01:56:00,210 --> 01:56:04,290
and got caught. A few months ago
he was convicted and sent to

1940
01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:08,670
prison boards then there's the
case of Shan chi, a Texas based

1941
01:56:08,670 --> 01:56:12,780
scientist also sentenced to
prison earlier this year, she

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01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:17,340
stole trade secrets regarding
syntactic foam and important

1943
01:56:17,340 --> 01:56:21,900
naval technology used in
submarines. She too had applied

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01:56:21,900 --> 01:56:25,920
to China's 1000 talents program
and specifically pledged to

1945
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:31,140
digest and absorb the relevant
technology in the United States.

1946
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:36,510
He did this on behalf of Chinese
state owned enterprises which

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01:56:36,540 --> 01:56:40,230
ultimately planned to put the
American company out of business

1948
01:56:40,590 --> 01:56:44,490
and take over the market. And
one of the more galling and

1949
01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:48,240
egregious aspects of the scheme,
the conspirators actually

1950
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,720
patented in China the very
manufacturing process they'd

1951
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:56,280
stolen and then offered their
victim American company, a joint

1952
01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:01,110
venture using its own stolen
technology. We're talking about

1953
01:57:01,110 --> 01:57:04,650
an American company that spent
years and millions of dollars

1954
01:57:04,650 --> 01:57:08,190
Euro dollars developing that
technology, and China couldn't

1955
01:57:08,190 --> 01:57:13,530
replicate it. So instead, it
paid to have it stolen. And just

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01:57:13,530 --> 01:57:17,550
two weeks ago, how Jong was
convicted of economic espionage

1957
01:57:17,550 --> 01:57:21,120
theft of trade secrets, and
conspiracy for stealing

1958
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:25,800
proprietary information about
wireless devices from two US

1959
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,700
companies. One of those
companies had spent over 20

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01:57:29,700 --> 01:57:34,890
years developing the technology
to junk stole. These cases were

1961
01:57:34,890 --> 01:57:38,970
among more than 1000
investigations The FBI has into

1962
01:57:38,970 --> 01:57:43,500
China's actual and attempted
theft of American technology.

1963
01:57:43,950 --> 01:57:47,160
And that's not even talking
about the more than 1000 other

1964
01:57:47,190 --> 01:57:50,310
ongoing counterintelligence
investigations of other kinds

1965
01:57:50,670 --> 01:57:51,600
related to China

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01:57:52,050 --> 01:57:56,100
Adam Curry: kind of makes makes
you happy that we blocked the

1967
01:57:56,100 --> 01:58:01,230
Huawei 5g systems in the United
States. When you hear all this,

1968
01:58:01,650 --> 01:58:03,840
John C. Dvorak: I have always
believed when I first ran into

1969
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:08,790
Huawei, which is probably in his
early days they had do when

1970
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:12,870
Comdex was still a viable when
it was at an actual conference

1971
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:17,730
which ended they there was a
Huawei booth, I believe in early

1972
01:58:17,730 --> 01:58:22,350
one. And I went in there,
curious about these, this

1973
01:58:22,380 --> 01:58:26,550
operation. And they, that was
pretty much I wasn't kind of

1974
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:31,680
kind of thrown out. But as soon
as I walked, when I walked in,

1975
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,950
there was a whole there was a
scattering, they scattered

1976
01:58:34,950 --> 01:58:38,910
around. And next thing you know,
some boss came out to ask me

1977
01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:42,630
what I was what I wanted to
know. And it was very creepy. I

1978
01:58:42,630 --> 01:58:46,440
found the company to be off
putting to say the least. And

1979
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:53,850
I've always been convinced that
they just ripped off Cisco or

1980
01:58:53,850 --> 01:58:58,080
Juniper that these companies are
companies. It never made any

1981
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:04,620
sense to me otherwise. But now
anyway, onward with this with

1982
01:59:04,620 --> 01:59:09,690
this. And by the way, again, a
lot is being skipped. And we're

1983
01:59:09,690 --> 01:59:12,810
gonna go on to clip forward
talks about academia, which

1984
01:59:12,810 --> 01:59:14,370
seems to be a real target.

1985
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:17,550
Unknown: It's a troublingly
Similar story in academia.

1986
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,600
Through Talent Recruitment
programs like the 1000 talents

1987
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:25,320
program I mentioned just a few
moments ago, China pays

1988
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,650
scientists at American
universities to secretly bring

1989
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,910
our knowledge and innovation
back to China, including

1990
01:59:32,910 --> 01:59:37,470
valuable federally funded
research. To put it bluntly,

1991
01:59:37,950 --> 01:59:41,430
this means American taxpayers
are effectively footing the bill

1992
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:46,290
for China's own technological
development. China then

1993
01:59:46,290 --> 01:59:50,220
leverages its ill gotten gains
to undercut US research

1994
01:59:50,220 --> 01:59:53,610
institutions and companies,
blunting our nation's

1995
01:59:53,610 --> 01:59:58,860
advancement and costing American
jobs. And we're seeing more and

1996
01:59:58,860 --> 02:00:04,560
more of these cases. CES. In May
alone, we arrested both Ching

1997
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,980
Wong, a former researcher with
the Cleveland Clinic who worked

1998
02:00:07,980 --> 02:00:11,880
on molecular medicine and the
genetics of cardiovascular

1999
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:16,440
disease. And Simon saw Tiangong
at University of Arkansas

2000
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:20,880
scientists doing research for
NASA. Both of these guys were

2001
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:24,540
allegedly committing fraud by
concealing their participation

2002
02:00:24,900 --> 02:00:27,630
in Chinese Talent Recruitment
programs while accepting

2003
02:00:27,630 --> 02:00:33,750
millions of dollars in American
federal grant funding. That same

2004
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:39,210
month, former Emory University
Professor Xiao Zhi Ying li pled

2005
02:00:39,210 --> 02:00:42,300
guilty to filing a false tax
return for failing to report the

2006
02:00:42,300 --> 02:00:46,050
income he'd received through
China's 1000 talents program.

2007
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,680
Our investigation found that
while he was researching

2008
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:53,550
Huntington's disease at Emory,
he was also pocketing a half a

2009
02:00:53,550 --> 02:00:58,470
million unreported dollars from
China. In a similar vein,

2010
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,140
Charles Lieber Chair of
Harvard's Department of

2011
02:01:01,140 --> 02:01:04,680
Chemistry and Chemical Biology
was indicted just last month for

2012
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,860
making false statements to
federal authorities about his

2013
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:12,630
1000 talents participation. The
United States has alleged that

2014
02:01:12,630 --> 02:01:17,370
libre concealed from both
Harvard and the NIH his position

2015
02:01:17,370 --> 02:01:21,600
as a strategic scientist at a
Chinese University, and the fact

2016
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:25,050
that the Chinese government was
paying him through the Wuhan

2017
02:01:25,050 --> 02:01:30,150
Institute of Technology, a
$50,000 monthly stipend, more

2018
02:01:30,150 --> 02:01:36,060
than $150,000 in living expenses
and more than $1.5 million to

2019
02:01:36,060 --> 02:01:39,120
establish a laboratory back in
China.

2020
02:01:39,420 --> 02:01:42,180
Adam Curry: It's amazing how
Fauci kind of skirts all of

2021
02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:46,710
this. He paid he made sure that
they got paid that the lab got

2022
02:01:46,710 --> 02:01:49,140
set up, he got the gain of
function down there. I mean,

2023
02:01:49,140 --> 02:01:52,380
when does that guy get in
trouble? Oh, I'm sorry. Never.

2024
02:01:54,060 --> 02:01:57,780
John C. Dvorak: Well, you don't
know that. True. But he's not

2025
02:01:57,810 --> 02:02:00,570
he's got such a high profile,
it'd be hard to bust him but

2026
02:02:00,570 --> 02:02:04,290
they did goes on and on. But the
number that keeps cropping up in

2027
02:02:04,290 --> 02:02:07,140
in not in all the clips, but
I've but throughout the

2028
02:02:07,140 --> 02:02:10,770
speeches, the Chinese are
dropping a half a million

2029
02:02:10,770 --> 02:02:14,760
dollars a year for these people
to these people's they're very

2030
02:02:14,790 --> 02:02:19,200
people are corruptible at that
amount of money. Yes, it's gonna

2031
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:25,140
take an awful lot of work by our
by the FBI and the CIA, which

2032
02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:28,110
and the CIA, we had to remember
to remind people they lost all

2033
02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:33,660
most of their agents in China. I
can't remember the number but it

2034
02:02:33,660 --> 02:02:33,870
was

2035
02:02:34,530 --> 02:02:37,500
Adam Curry: 12 or something at
12 It was more than that.

2036
02:02:38,250 --> 02:02:42,690
John C. Dvorak: But Major agents
in China and also busted and

2037
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:43,230
killed

2038
02:02:43,260 --> 02:02:45,210
Adam Curry: certainly about
these cases there has been

2039
02:02:45,210 --> 02:02:48,510
reporting in the Washington Post
New York Times about the actual

2040
02:02:48,510 --> 02:02:53,010
arrests, but nothing big I mean,
no obviously no big television

2041
02:02:53,010 --> 02:02:56,520
expos A's that I'm familiar
with. You know, it's all online

2042
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:59,340
if you want to learn about it,
but it's now of course it's

2043
02:02:59,340 --> 02:03:03,120
you're not going to get anything
through the certainly not the US

2044
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:06,270
media, maybe not others as well
and we've already discussed the

2045
02:03:06,300 --> 02:03:09,000
the probable reasons why they
own it.

2046
02:03:11,430 --> 02:03:14,280
John C. Dvorak: They indeed own
it. Let's go to the malign

2047
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:18,060
influences. An interesting term
I like which is all showed show

2048
02:03:18,060 --> 02:03:20,970
titled malign influences of
malign influence five,

2049
02:03:21,690 --> 02:03:25,200
Unknown: China is engaged in a
highly sophisticated malign

2050
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,590
foreign influence campaign and
its methods include bribery,

2051
02:03:29,070 --> 02:03:34,710
blackmail, and covert deals.
Chinese diplomats also used both

2052
02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:39,420
open naked economic pressure and
seemingly independent middlemen

2053
02:03:39,690 --> 02:03:45,090
to push China's preferences on
American officials. Just take

2054
02:03:45,090 --> 02:03:49,620
one all too common illustration,
let's say China gets wind that

2055
02:03:49,620 --> 02:03:52,890
some American officials planning
to travel to Taiwan thank a

2056
02:03:52,890 --> 02:03:56,730
governor, a state senator, a
member of Congress. China does

2057
02:03:56,730 --> 02:03:59,850
not want that to happen because
that travel might appear to

2058
02:03:59,850 --> 02:04:03,600
legitimize Taiwanese
independence from China and

2059
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:07,260
legitimizing Taiwan would of
course be contrary to China's

2060
02:04:07,260 --> 02:04:11,490
one China policy. So what does
China do? Well, China has

2061
02:04:11,490 --> 02:04:14,790
leverage over the American
officials, constituents.

2062
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:18,630
American companies, academics
and members of the media all

2063
02:04:18,630 --> 02:04:21,330
have legitimate and
understandable reasons to want

2064
02:04:21,330 --> 02:04:26,310
access to Chinese partners and
markets. But because of the

2065
02:04:26,310 --> 02:04:29,490
authoritarian nature of the
Chinese Communist Party, China

2066
02:04:29,490 --> 02:04:34,170
has immense power over those
same partners and markets. So

2067
02:04:34,170 --> 02:04:37,110
China will sometimes start by
trying to influence the American

2068
02:04:37,110 --> 02:04:41,520
official overtly and directly.
China might openly warn that if

2069
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:44,520
the American official goes ahead
and takes that trip to Taiwan,

2070
02:04:44,940 --> 02:04:47,910
China will take it out on a
company from that officials home

2071
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:51,180
state by withholding the
company's license to manufacture

2072
02:04:51,630 --> 02:04:55,320
in China that could be
economically ruinous for the

2073
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:58,740
company would directly pressure
the American official to alter

2074
02:04:58,740 --> 02:05:03,330
his travel plans. and official
would know that China was trying

2075
02:05:03,330 --> 02:05:04,200
to influence him.

2076
02:05:04,830 --> 02:05:08,640
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'll do the
translation. And he's keep

2077
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:11,010
saying China, which is
interesting, because of course,

2078
02:05:11,010 --> 02:05:13,530
it's really the Chinese
Communist Party. But

2079
02:05:13,890 --> 02:05:16,080
John C. Dvorak: yeah, I want to
stop because there's some I did

2080
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:20,580
leave out. And I noticed this
and this is done on. He already

2081
02:05:20,580 --> 02:05:24,870
covered this. Then this was done
by other speeches, I've seen

2082
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:27,750
that it's almost like a little
rote thing. And they say, I am

2083
02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:30,900
not talking about China. I'm not
talking about the Chinese

2084
02:05:30,900 --> 02:05:33,660
people. I'm not talking about
Chinese Americans. I'm only

2085
02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:37,470
talking about this, the Chinese
Communist Party, and then it but

2086
02:05:37,470 --> 02:05:40,380
he uses the word China but we
already know from listening

2087
02:05:40,380 --> 02:05:43,230
earlier that he's really talking
about the CCCP so you can't call

2088
02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:43,710
him on that.

2089
02:05:44,430 --> 02:05:48,120
Adam Curry: Okay. What I was
going to say is a better example

2090
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:52,080
would have been Hey, you
remember when China made LeBron

2091
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:57,660
James their bitch that's the
only example you need to hear.

2092
02:05:59,070 --> 02:06:01,260
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well that
was that that was it. He

2093
02:06:01,260 --> 02:06:04,740
actually goes on this is a clip
I cut a little short because he

2094
02:06:04,740 --> 02:06:08,250
goes on forever taking it to the
next extreme. He says the next

2095
02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:10,950
thing you know if that doesn't
work, then he they bring in

2096
02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:14,370
their influencers, apparently,
like maybe the guy's uncle

2097
02:06:14,370 --> 02:06:17,790
yacht, and you may be at this
Chinese state. And he's really

2098
02:06:18,150 --> 02:06:22,890
stressing in the overall speech,
the middlemen. These are the

2099
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:26,130
inbetweeners, the guys that are
just Hey, Bill, how you doing?

2100
02:06:26,130 --> 02:06:27,960
Oh, yeah, I think we should do
with China's wrong Oh, you

2101
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:31,410
shouldn't go there. Just these
people that are your friends.

2102
02:06:31,410 --> 02:06:35,910
And just like, it's almost very
similar to what the was going on

2103
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:39,300
in the 50s with the fellow
travelers. You know, these

2104
02:06:39,300 --> 02:06:42,750
people that were representing
the Russian communists, but they

2105
02:06:42,750 --> 02:06:45,870
didn't seem that they were and
they would deny it if you ask

2106
02:06:45,900 --> 02:06:48,330
Adam Curry: I'm insulted. I'm a
little pissed off about all

2107
02:06:48,330 --> 02:06:54,270
this. Here I am the pod father
reaccredited. On the Joe Rogan

2108
02:06:54,270 --> 02:07:01,470
show, where his wares at least
attempt to bribe me. Nothing

2109
02:07:01,470 --> 02:07:01,980
Chinese

2110
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:03,600
John C. Dvorak: hate podcasts.

2111
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:09,120
Adam Curry: Not like not even an
offer not even a hooker nothing.

2112
02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:19,590
Just a taste. No hookers no
blow. Where are you, China? I'm

2113
02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:22,020
waiting. I'm ready. I'm the pod
father have influence.

2114
02:07:24,300 --> 02:07:27,810
John C. Dvorak: Onward with this
would be part six. This is

2115
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:30,300
talking about Fox hunt, which is
something we have talked about

2116
02:07:30,300 --> 02:07:34,920
on the show and rate it talks
about it. Yuri introduces it and

2117
02:07:34,920 --> 02:07:37,290
then he has a question and
answer where he talks about some

2118
02:07:37,290 --> 02:07:38,550
more and that'll be our last
clip.

2119
02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:43,800
Unknown: Since 2014. Chinese
General Secretary Xi Jinping has

2120
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:48,870
spearheaded a program known as
Fox hunt. China describes Fox

2121
02:07:48,870 --> 02:07:51,480
hunt as some kind of
international anti corruption

2122
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:57,420
campaign it is not. Instead, Fox
Hunt is a sweeping bid by

2123
02:07:57,420 --> 02:08:01,410
General Secretary Xi to target
Chinese nationals whom he sees

2124
02:08:01,410 --> 02:08:05,400
as threats and who live outside
of China across the world. We're

2125
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:09,960
talking about political rivals,
dissidents and critics seeking

2126
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:13,710
to expose China's extensive
human rights violations.

2127
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:17,730
Hundreds of these foxhunt
victims that they target live

2128
02:08:17,730 --> 02:08:20,880
right here in the United States,
and many are American citizens,

2129
02:08:21,210 --> 02:08:24,630
or green card holders. The
Chinese government wants to

2130
02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:27,930
force them to return to China
and China's tactics to

2131
02:08:27,930 --> 02:08:31,710
accomplish that are shocking.
For example, when it couldn't

2132
02:08:31,710 --> 02:08:34,890
locate one Foxconn target, the
Chinese government sent an

2133
02:08:34,890 --> 02:08:38,160
emissary to visit the targets
family here in the United

2134
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:43,440
States. The message they said to
pass on target had two options,

2135
02:08:43,770 --> 02:08:48,060
returned to China properly or
commit suicide. And what happens

2136
02:08:48,060 --> 02:08:51,840
when Foxconn targets refused to
turn to China. In the past,

2137
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:55,260
their family members, both here
in the United States and China

2138
02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:58,770
have been threatened and
coerced. And those back in China

2139
02:08:58,770 --> 02:09:02,820
have even been arrested. for
leverage. I will take this

2140
02:09:02,820 --> 02:09:06,810
opportunity to know that if you
believe the Chinese government

2141
02:09:06,810 --> 02:09:10,710
is targeting you that you're a
potential foxhunt victim, please

2142
02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:13,470
reach out to your local FBI
field office.

2143
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:17,160
Adam Curry: And if you want to
be a fox on victim, can we also

2144
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:17,940
reach out?

2145
02:09:18,450 --> 02:09:22,860
John C. Dvorak: Wow. Now, this
is interesting because this

2146
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:26,790
reflects what the M five M has
done when they give us a picture

2147
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:32,370
of the CCCP which is that she is
supposedly cracking down on

2148
02:09:32,370 --> 02:09:35,640
corruption and bureaucratic
corruption all the rest of it.

2149
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:40,410
And Fox Hunt is a scam as a
smokescreen, and it's never

2150
02:09:40,410 --> 02:09:43,110
really discussed in the fact
that it's trying to just, you

2151
02:09:43,110 --> 02:09:48,330
know, shut people up and you
know, get them back to China if

2152
02:09:48,330 --> 02:09:51,450
they can so they can arrest
them, or whatever and is

2153
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:56,010
explained a little more. In this
next clip, which is the mood he

2154
02:09:56,010 --> 02:09:59,610
sat down with the Hudson
Institute guy and they had a

2155
02:09:59,610 --> 02:10:05,160
look chat after the speech. And
a question came up about Fox and

2156
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:07,680
I thought it was a good way to
finish this.

2157
02:10:07,860 --> 02:10:10,650
Unknown: Well, in terms of the
prevalence of the Fox on

2158
02:10:10,650 --> 02:10:14,160
efforts, I think we've seen
hundreds just here in the United

2159
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,940
States, hundreds of you could
call them target, you could call

2160
02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:22,350
them victims, frankly, hundreds
of individuals that the Chinese

2161
02:10:22,350 --> 02:10:28,080
government is trying to reach
and coerce. It also is

2162
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:31,170
happening, as I said, in my
speech, and other countries,

2163
02:10:31,170 --> 02:10:37,230
too, in terms of the tactics,
it's a variety of means of

2164
02:10:37,230 --> 02:10:43,350
coercion. We've had situations
where, you know, they show up

2165
02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:46,980
and make comments about, you
know, their family members back

2166
02:10:46,980 --> 02:10:52,140
home in China, in a way that was
pretty unmistakably threatening.

2167
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:57,360
But it's, you know, if you use
your imagination, you're not

2168
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:58,200
going to be far off.

2169
02:10:58,590 --> 02:11:01,980
And have we been working with
other governments to try to

2170
02:11:01,980 --> 02:11:05,340
counter this, again, from the
readers? And watchers? Well, we

2171
02:11:05,340 --> 02:11:05,730
certainly

2172
02:11:05,730 --> 02:11:10,290
have worked with with a lot of
our good foreign partners to

2173
02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:15,690
compare notes, best practices,
and so forth to try to combat

2174
02:11:15,690 --> 02:11:20,130
the fox hunt. threat. But
there's another part of

2175
02:11:20,130 --> 02:11:24,450
coordination that's important
here. I mean, at one level, you

2176
02:11:24,450 --> 02:11:29,040
can there is a established means
there are established processes

2177
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:32,310
for foreign law enforcement to
cooperate with each other.

2178
02:11:33,420 --> 02:11:37,320
Right, legitimate foreign
cooperation happens all the time

2179
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:40,230
all over the world. And there's
a way you do that. And you

2180
02:11:40,230 --> 02:11:44,130
coordinate with law enforcement
in the country that the person

2181
02:11:44,130 --> 02:11:47,970
is in. That's not what foxhunt
is, these people are essentially

2182
02:11:47,970 --> 02:11:52,230
engaged in Rogue law
enforcement, unsanctioned

2183
02:11:52,260 --> 02:11:55,140
uncoordinated with US law
enforcement here in the United

2184
02:11:55,140 --> 02:11:59,730
States. And that really exposes
what this is really about, which

2185
02:11:59,730 --> 02:12:04,020
is suppressing dissent, and
trying to pressure dissidents

2186
02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:04,620
and critics.

2187
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:06,990
Adam Curry: Yeah, and

2188
02:12:08,070 --> 02:12:11,520
John C. Dvorak: CCP or Chinese
police coming over here. Sure.

2189
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:15,930
Unknown: Sure. And

2190
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:24,090
Adam Curry: this is so wrong in
so many ways. I'm glad we have

2191
02:12:24,090 --> 02:12:28,620
an enemy though. It's good to
have one. I like this enemy

2192
02:12:28,620 --> 02:12:35,880
better than me. Oh, Tali Baran,
or al Qaeda or ISIS?

2193
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:39,480
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, those guys
are these

2194
02:12:39,510 --> 02:12:42,270
Adam Curry: these the CCP?
What's happened here over these

2195
02:12:42,270 --> 02:12:45,630
John C. Dvorak: guys make these
guys or make them look like

2196
02:12:45,630 --> 02:12:48,690
little training wheels. Raised
off cookies. It's

2197
02:12:48,690 --> 02:12:55,170
Adam Curry: a couple of other
CCP items. Pope Francis. On

2198
02:12:55,170 --> 02:13:02,880
Sunday, I guess it was Sunday
had Gavan and jealous, which is

2199
02:13:02,910 --> 02:13:07,560
a you know, it's a little thing
you say like this is coming from

2200
02:13:07,590 --> 02:13:11,520
from, from God's mouth to to my
mouth to your ears.

2201
02:13:14,340 --> 02:13:20,400
Interestingly, someone who had
a, an embargoed version of it,

2202
02:13:21,150 --> 02:13:28,260
noticed that the Pope did not or
actually removed the entire 150

2203
02:13:28,260 --> 02:13:32,820
word paragraph about Hong Kong.
What's going on right now?

2204
02:13:34,350 --> 02:13:35,700
John C. Dvorak: Remember that
explain this.

2205
02:13:36,210 --> 02:13:40,050
Adam Curry: Okay. So you have to
remember in the context of a

2206
02:13:40,050 --> 02:13:45,060
couple shows ago, that there is
we had the China expert, who

2207
02:13:45,060 --> 02:13:49,740
said that the CCP has been
giving the Vatican $2 billion a

2208
02:13:49,740 --> 02:13:53,340
year. And the 2 billion is
mainly to not make any waves

2209
02:13:53,340 --> 02:14:03,000
about China to let them create
some fake Catholicism in China.

2210
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:06,240
That is not Catholicism.
Meanwhile, driving everybody

2211
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:09,390
underground basically shut up
and play along, which is why

2212
02:14:09,390 --> 02:14:11,880
this guy is Pope in the first
place because we know he's a

2213
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:18,810
damn shill. And I said damn on
purpose. So the pope had written

2214
02:14:18,810 --> 02:14:22,380
this whole and jealous to
deliver. Then when he delivered

2215
02:14:22,380 --> 02:14:26,910
it, he left out the 150 words
about Hong Kong and how that's

2216
02:14:26,910 --> 02:14:30,870
all messed up there though
because

2217
02:14:30,900 --> 02:14:32,430
John C. Dvorak: because he's
convenient.

2218
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,070
Adam Curry: That's one way to
look at it. Or Holy crap,

2219
02:14:38,220 --> 02:14:43,620
corrupt. Well, I've also hopes
gotta go.

2220
02:14:45,330 --> 02:14:46,260
Unknown: Really smitten.

2221
02:14:46,290 --> 02:14:51,000
Adam Curry: I have here's here's
a serious question. Why is it

2222
02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:57,360
it's not about the CCP. Why is
it the Chinese always seem to be

2223
02:14:57,390 --> 02:15:00,750
obsessed with consuming weird
anime wolves that make their

2224
02:15:00,750 --> 02:15:04,260
penis briger Bigger. What is
what is this obsession?

2225
02:15:05,879 --> 02:15:07,319
John C. Dvorak: Japanese have
this too.

2226
02:15:07,649 --> 02:15:10,289
Adam Curry: Oh, the I guess they
do what they do rhino horn or

2227
02:15:10,289 --> 02:15:10,889
whatever?

2228
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:14,760
John C. Dvorak: Well there's if
you go at the thing, you learned

2229
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:17,670
a little bit about this when
you're in Taiwan and go to snake

2230
02:15:17,670 --> 02:15:22,230
alley. And you get lectured
about some of the people that

2231
02:15:22,230 --> 02:15:25,530
are partaking in the imbibing of
crazy,

2232
02:15:25,890 --> 02:15:28,380
Adam Curry: crazy. Crazy. It is
crazy.

2233
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,440
John C. Dvorak: I want to play a
little aside here just to

2234
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:33,810
mention it because we don't talk
about him on the show. We don't

2235
02:15:33,810 --> 02:15:38,220
clip him. So I told me to clip
and this was just once. Okay,

2236
02:15:38,910 --> 02:15:40,710
Stephen Molyneux. Ah,

2237
02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:44,700
Adam Curry: Mr. Mr. Hodge been
deep platformed from everything

2238
02:15:44,700 --> 02:15:45,030
now.

2239
02:15:45,060 --> 02:15:46,920
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I want to
I want to play this and I have a

2240
02:15:46,920 --> 02:15:47,550
comment.

2241
02:15:47,850 --> 02:15:51,060
Unknown: This is Stefan
Molyneux, as you may have heard

2242
02:15:51,930 --> 02:15:56,640
14 years of my life 1000s of
videos, billions of comments,

2243
02:15:56,910 --> 02:15:59,460
hundreds of millions of views
and nearly a million subscribers

2244
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:04,050
has been destroyed, has been
erased. From YouTube, the

2245
02:16:04,050 --> 02:16:06,450
accusation is the usual one that
I am fomenting violence and

2246
02:16:06,450 --> 02:16:10,080
hatred and so on, which is not
true at all. I have consistently

2247
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:14,430
promulgated the non Aggression
Principle and call to reason and

2248
02:16:14,430 --> 02:16:17,130
evidence as the methodology by
which we can resolve social

2249
02:16:17,340 --> 02:16:18,420
disputes in differences.

2250
02:16:20,010 --> 02:16:21,570
Adam Curry: Okay, so he's saying

2251
02:16:21,570 --> 02:16:23,610
John C. Dvorak: he went on and
on and he had a plug for some

2252
02:16:23,610 --> 02:16:28,530
Patreon page or something. Yes.
Now he? I don't know about you.

2253
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:33,360
Now. He's, he says 1000 videos
have been lost forever.

2254
02:16:33,389 --> 02:16:36,209
Adam Curry: Yeah, he guess he
didn't save them. But I think

2255
02:16:36,209 --> 02:16:38,999
maybe more important is the
comments on the YouTube. You

2256
02:16:38,999 --> 02:16:39,149
know,

2257
02:16:39,150 --> 02:16:40,860
John C. Dvorak: I understand
that's true. But that's not what

2258
02:16:40,860 --> 02:16:45,720
he said. He said, 1000 videos,
and has been lost forever. And

2259
02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:51,060
I'm thinking you don't, you have
to have the video on your person

2260
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:56,250
at one point, because you have
to upload it. So is he uploading

2261
02:16:56,250 --> 02:17:00,540
his videos and then erasing them
from his own machines? You

2262
02:17:00,540 --> 02:17:03,990
should ask them leaving it up to
YouTube to Why don't archive Why

2263
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:04,170
don't

2264
02:17:04,170 --> 02:17:06,720
Adam Curry: you send him a tweet
and ask him? Oh, I'm sorry.

2265
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:10,710
John C. Dvorak: You can't? You
know, it's just a question that

2266
02:17:10,710 --> 02:17:13,260
came to mind because it doesn't
make sense to me. No, I think

2267
02:17:13,260 --> 02:17:17,040
Adam Curry: he's making a very
sad appeal. When he was

2268
02:17:17,070 --> 02:17:21,150
demonetized, or whatever.
Initially, it's like, Oh, it's

2269
02:17:21,150 --> 02:17:24,810
okay. I don't mind that Baba
Baba. And you just said he was

2270
02:17:24,810 --> 02:17:27,420
pitching and Patreon. So I think
he's laying it on thick. If he

2271
02:17:27,420 --> 02:17:31,470
doesn't have copies of what he
posted on YouTube, then Mr.

2272
02:17:31,470 --> 02:17:36,000
Intellectual is an idiot. Come
on. Because ridiculous. I mean,

2273
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:41,040
even I have copies. But also,
the nature of our value for

2274
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:43,830
value system makes it so
beautiful, because we don't give

2275
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:48,600
a crap how many copies are out
there? Then there's, we have low

2276
02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:52,560
vert low res versions for people
in countries with no with very

2277
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:56,220
poor bandwidth. It started with
Australia, actually, 1012 years

2278
02:17:56,220 --> 02:17:59,640
ago. We've got torrin versions
as versions on YouTube, the

2279
02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:04,020
version on YouTube with with
with transcripts, it's all over

2280
02:18:04,020 --> 02:18:04,650
the place.

2281
02:18:05,790 --> 02:18:08,550
John C. Dvorak: I wonder if that
low frequent that low bandwidth

2282
02:18:09,420 --> 02:18:12,090
Adam Curry: still around still?
I think it is, I think it is.

2283
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:18,900
And by its very nature,
podcasting creates millions of

2284
02:18:18,900 --> 02:18:25,110
copies of each show. There are
millions of people who have show

2285
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:30,840
1257 on a device somewhere.
Yeah, that's the view. That's

2286
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:36,090
the hidden gem of it. So I feel
bad for him, but I got very

2287
02:18:36,090 --> 02:18:39,990
bored of watching him probably
eight years ago. It's just it

2288
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:41,550
was just didn't appeal to me.

2289
02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:46,199
John C. Dvorak: Like he was the
one of the originals at sticking

2290
02:18:46,199 --> 02:18:49,139
his head in front of a camera
and then lecturing you about one

2291
02:18:49,139 --> 02:18:51,149
thing or another and he was
good. It was very good. He would

2292
02:18:51,149 --> 02:18:55,559
he had talent. Yes. But I don't
know. I don't know. I grabbed

2293
02:18:55,559 --> 02:18:57,899
really been watching him of late
and he brought it off as

2294
02:18:57,899 --> 02:19:01,289
materials dropped off. I'm not
sure. There's there is another

2295
02:19:01,289 --> 02:19:06,059
podcast I want to discuss. And I
feel bad about even doing this

2296
02:19:06,059 --> 02:19:07,319
segment if you don't mind.

2297
02:19:08,430 --> 02:19:10,230
Unknown: Okay. All right.

2298
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:15,540
John C. Dvorak: This is the
useful idiots podcast with one

2299
02:19:15,540 --> 02:19:19,290
of our heroes in terms of his
ability to put things together

2300
02:19:19,290 --> 02:19:23,190
and for progressive put things
together in a in a very concise

2301
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:25,560
and meaningful way. Baby.

2302
02:19:25,589 --> 02:19:30,809
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Matt
Taibbi, who brought us a nice

2303
02:19:31,199 --> 02:19:34,349
article about the white
fragility book, which I'm glad

2304
02:19:34,349 --> 02:19:36,539
we slammed before he came out
with that.

2305
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:40,800
John C. Dvorak: Yeah. And so
he's about that, but he's also

2306
02:19:40,830 --> 02:19:44,220
so he's got this guy, Adolph
Reid, a retired professor from

2307
02:19:44,460 --> 02:19:48,450
Princeton. I think we're one of
the big schools and he's on and

2308
02:19:48,450 --> 02:19:51,600
he says a couple of crazy
things. And he's in his partner

2309
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:55,680
on this as Katie helper. And so
I'm going to play the two clips

2310
02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:58,260
that I think they some one of
these two should have said

2311
02:19:58,260 --> 02:20:04,350
something to Adolph Reid About
his about his nuttiness. And

2312
02:20:04,350 --> 02:20:06,900
then after those two clips are
done, I want to play what I

2313
02:20:06,900 --> 02:20:12,780
think unfortunately, I'm gonna
have to say that Mattei EB is a

2314
02:20:12,780 --> 02:20:17,550
bully. I'm gonna prove it. Oh,
and he does something that I've

2315
02:20:17,580 --> 02:20:20,700
tried to do with you a couple of
times, and I feel bad listening

2316
02:20:20,700 --> 02:20:25,260
to him to actually accomplish
it. But I wouldn't have I would

2317
02:20:25,260 --> 02:20:29,520
not have let it I would have not
hung you out to dry? Like he

2318
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:32,670
does does with his partner here.
Oh, my goodness. That's the

2319
02:20:32,670 --> 02:20:36,180
third clip. Wow, you're gonna
have to I'll explain it to him.

2320
02:20:36,180 --> 02:20:41,340
First, we got to start with
these. This is Adolph read. Part

2321
02:20:41,340 --> 02:20:44,100
one, this is the setup, you have
to know listen carefully.

2322
02:20:44,370 --> 02:20:46,770
Unknown: I think we're kind of
screwed either way, frankly,

2323
02:20:46,830 --> 02:20:54,630
right. If if Trump wins or stays
in office, he might come and

2324
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:59,340
kill us. I'm just hoping that
those kids who post post all

2325
02:20:59,340 --> 02:21:03,360
their wild stuff on Instagram or
tweet it all the time, we'll go

2326
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:06,540
in the first wave so that some
of the rest of us will have time

2327
02:21:06,540 --> 02:21:08,670
to grab a toothbrush and head to
Canada, right.

2328
02:21:10,410 --> 02:21:14,370
Adam Curry: Okay, this isn't
anti Trump or who was gonna move

2329
02:21:14,370 --> 02:21:16,170
to Canada when Trump was he's a

2330
02:21:16,170 --> 02:21:19,590
John C. Dvorak: curious guy cuz
he's the anti BLM. He's very, he

2331
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:20,280
has a lot

2332
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:22,020
Adam Curry: of his name is
Adolf.

2333
02:21:23,070 --> 02:21:25,530
John C. Dvorak: Adolf is the
history. He's a black guy. You

2334
02:21:25,530 --> 02:21:31,770
can't tell it from his voice.
But he he's got a lot of good

2335
02:21:31,770 --> 02:21:35,130
analysis. But then he throws
this out of the blue this we got

2336
02:21:35,130 --> 02:21:37,860
to head to Katie, they're gonna
kill me, which is kind of like

2337
02:21:37,860 --> 02:21:42,180
the joke clip I had from Scott
Adams. Right said Biden's gonna

2338
02:21:42,180 --> 02:21:44,580
kill us. Right, right. So
somebody's gonna kill somebody.

2339
02:21:44,610 --> 02:21:46,590
Adam Curry: Well, this is Trump
and Trump people because he's

2340
02:21:46,590 --> 02:21:48,990
black, and they're gonna kill
them. That's, that's now what I

2341
02:21:48,990 --> 02:21:49,740
understand.

2342
02:21:50,130 --> 02:21:52,800
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, so you got
that? Right. So 20 minutes

2343
02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:57,510
later, in the same interview, he
doubles down. Here it is

2344
02:21:57,540 --> 02:21:59,190
Adam Curry: sorry. Go

2345
02:21:59,220 --> 02:22:04,650
Unknown: short. totally joking.
When I say that, I think Trump

2346
02:22:04,650 --> 02:22:08,220
Trump will kill us. Right. I
mean, he would like to, and from

2347
02:22:08,220 --> 02:22:10,530
that perspective, I think the
most you can hope for from a

2348
02:22:10,530 --> 02:22:15,870
Democratic administration is
some time, right? recommend

2349
02:22:15,870 --> 02:22:19,740
buying, buying, buying some
time, a Supreme Court

2350
02:22:19,740 --> 02:22:23,850
appointment or to it it's not
terrible. Some better

2351
02:22:23,850 --> 02:22:27,090
appointments on the National
Labor Relations Board, right?

2352
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:31,560
Some TVs, OSHA, something like
that. Right? Right. But the

2353
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:35,280
problem is, you know, we didn't
elect our way into this

2354
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:37,710
situation. And we're not going
to like the way out of it. And

2355
02:22:37,710 --> 02:22:46,710
we have to finally act like a
left that understands organizing

2356
02:22:46,710 --> 02:22:48,690
as being something different
from event planning.

2357
02:22:51,540 --> 02:22:53,580
John C. Dvorak: That's a good
line. That is a good line is a

2358
02:22:53,580 --> 02:22:56,790
good line, but he's rational,
rational and then towards the

2359
02:22:56,790 --> 02:23:03,120
end, neither tie a B or helper
say anything about this.

2360
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:09,180
Insanity. It's insane to think
that but okay. We'll let that

2361
02:23:09,180 --> 02:23:12,420
slide. So meanwhile, they finish
up with the guy and they wrap it

2362
02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:15,990
knee. And tie AB reflects on the
fact that at the beginning of

2363
02:23:15,990 --> 02:23:20,400
the interview, which I don't
have on here, they had an Tybee

2364
02:23:20,400 --> 02:23:25,590
and Reid had talked about sports
and North Carolina basketball

2365
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:29,340
and man Tiger is obviously a guy
who likes sports, he talks about

2366
02:23:29,340 --> 02:23:31,680
sports, he knows a lot about
sports. He's one of those guys I

2367
02:23:31,680 --> 02:23:35,430
can talk to him sure about a lot
of stuff like this helper is

2368
02:23:35,430 --> 02:23:38,550
kind of like you doesn't know
anything about sports

2369
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:45,270
whatsoever. But in this case, Ty
EB starts to feed her some bogus

2370
02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:49,380
information and instead of
telling her recognizing it, like

2371
02:23:49,380 --> 02:23:54,510
you would, by the way, some of
the stupidity of it, she buys

2372
02:23:54,510 --> 02:23:57,300
into it and as far as I'm
concerned to ruins your rep

2373
02:23:57,300 --> 02:24:02,550
reputation as a podcast analyst
somebody does analyzes news from

2374
02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:06,870
it she's a lefty and she she is
takes it in hook line and sinker

2375
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:12,300
and believes it she shows that
she's gullible as hell and tie a

2376
02:24:12,300 --> 02:24:15,990
beak stretches this out this is
actually a pretty long painful

2377
02:24:15,990 --> 02:24:19,470
clip and in at the very end he
never says I was just kidding he

2378
02:24:19,470 --> 02:24:22,680
No no, they just end the show.
And I don't know what happens

2379
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:25,260
after that when she finally
finds out that he's full of

2380
02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:29,100
crap. And we'll let's listen how
this unfolds. Great.

2381
02:24:29,730 --> 02:24:33,000
Unknown: was denied. sports fan.
That's hilarious.

2382
02:24:33,029 --> 02:24:33,899
I know. Yeah.

2383
02:24:34,050 --> 02:24:37,230
I wanted to spend the entire
time talking about dude Carolina

2384
02:24:37,230 --> 02:24:39,360
games, but by the way, since we
have you on camera, we got to

2385
02:24:39,360 --> 02:24:41,310
ask you what's your what's your
take on the Cam Newton

2386
02:24:41,310 --> 02:24:42,000
situation?

2387
02:24:42,599 --> 02:24:50,999
Cam Newton. Cam Newton. Good old
Cam Newton is a very good

2388
02:24:50,999 --> 02:24:51,899
football player.

2389
02:24:54,060 --> 02:24:56,160
And you didn't just find that
out.

2390
02:24:56,610 --> 02:25:01,770
I've known this in my bones for
a while. Hey, Cam Newton, I

2391
02:25:01,770 --> 02:25:03,690
think I didn't know he was a
football player cam Nunes, a

2392
02:25:03,690 --> 02:25:06,900
football player. And the big
news, of course, is that he just

2393
02:25:06,900 --> 02:25:10,920
replays Tom Brady as a cheater,

2394
02:25:12,210 --> 02:25:13,290
such a cheater.

2395
02:25:13,529 --> 02:25:17,309
You can keep the other stuff in
and embarrass me. Okay? Matt

2396
02:25:17,309 --> 02:25:19,979
really wants to humiliate me as
if anyone thinks I'm really good

2397
02:25:19,979 --> 02:25:25,289
sports. Okay. So so Cam Newton,
of course, of course, as

2398
02:25:25,289 --> 02:25:26,069
everyone knows that,

2399
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:28,410
Adam Curry: wait a minute. So
she just said, I don't know

2400
02:25:28,410 --> 02:25:31,200
about it, whatever. And now
she's going to tell us about it

2401
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:33,990
because she can read it from
Wikipedia or something.

2402
02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:36,450
John C. Dvorak: Well, she sees a
little bit on the screen and now

2403
02:25:36,450 --> 02:25:41,580
she's now she is basically
winging it. She's She's. She's

2404
02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:44,310
acting like a 12 year old who's
answering you could do instead

2405
02:25:44,310 --> 02:25:46,020
of saying, I don't know,
anything that you wish you

2406
02:25:46,020 --> 02:25:48,210
should have done. I don't know
anything about this. I don't

2407
02:25:48,210 --> 02:25:51,270
like football. I don't follow
it. She can say I don't like it.

2408
02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:54,450
A lot of people don't like
football. And I don't care. I

2409
02:25:54,450 --> 02:25:57,840
don't care about Cam Newton
weathers here or there. Next she

2410
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:01,260
calls Cam Newton, the new coach
doesn't know what a quarterback

2411
02:26:01,260 --> 02:26:07,320
is. And then now then it goes
off the rails. It was insanity.

2412
02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:09,420
And this woman should check
herself.

2413
02:26:09,449 --> 02:26:13,649
Unknown: So So Cam Newton Of
course. Of course, as everyone

2414
02:26:13,649 --> 02:26:16,949
knows, the great football player
has just replaced has just

2415
02:26:16,949 --> 02:26:23,429
replaced Tom Brady, as the coach
of the football team, and

2416
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:27,359
football team known as the
Manhattan refresh my memory.

2417
02:26:27,419 --> 02:26:28,679
The Cleveland unicorns?

2418
02:26:29,339 --> 02:26:32,879
Are you serious? Funny, because
Adolph Reid mentioned that, you

2419
02:26:32,879 --> 02:26:37,199
know, we there's actually a team
called unicorns.

2420
02:26:37,710 --> 02:26:38,550
Unicorns, yeah.

2421
02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:43,200
Really cool. Like, isn't that
very? I feel like it's very

2422
02:26:43,410 --> 02:26:48,750
illness. Yeah, I mean, unicorns
are very feminized, for better

2423
02:26:48,750 --> 02:26:51,210
or for worse, and I feel like
that it's kind of

2424
02:26:51,210 --> 02:26:55,230
a it's an a, it's a very
aggressive, uniform, uniform

2425
02:26:55,230 --> 02:26:56,430
helmet. Yeah. Okay.

2426
02:26:58,770 --> 02:27:01,080
Yeah, it's like a ram kind of a
Yukon.

2427
02:27:01,650 --> 02:27:06,300
Except it's it's Yeah. I mean,
it's one thing Right, exactly,

2428
02:27:06,300 --> 02:27:09,630
but it kind of runs down the top
of the helmet. Yeah. And it's

2429
02:27:09,630 --> 02:27:10,050
not like a

2430
02:27:10,050 --> 02:27:12,840
cutesy that's what I was
thinking of cutesy rainbowy. I

2431
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:15,240
thought it was very like, No,
you know, like the,

2432
02:27:15,390 --> 02:27:17,070
like, spikes over

2433
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:20,700
a month. It's basically
Godzilla.

2434
02:27:22,020 --> 02:27:26,100
It's gods. It's a menacing Yeah.
The Cleveland Cleveland got

2435
02:27:26,250 --> 02:27:28,710
unicorns. Yeah. Yeah, right.
Yes, exactly.

2436
02:27:30,030 --> 02:27:33,840
I mean, look, Cleveland, the
Cleveland unicorns they they're

2437
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:41,460
known for being really they've
sharpened over the years. Their

2438
02:27:41,460 --> 02:27:42,270
technique?

2439
02:27:42,300 --> 02:27:45,000
Well, they're known for their
their powerful ground ground

2440
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:45,570
assault.

2441
02:27:45,690 --> 02:27:49,770
Yeah. As opposed to the aerial
bombardment. That, yeah, the New

2442
02:27:49,770 --> 02:27:53,190
York Giants are known for,
right?

2443
02:27:53,220 --> 02:27:54,570
Yes, exactly.

2444
02:27:56,250 --> 02:27:58,650
Adam Curry: Did he ever let her
off the hook from this? Did he

2445
02:27:58,650 --> 02:28:02,880
ever tell her that you heard on
the show? No. The guys that I

2446
02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:06,540
was very disappointed. I love
Matt Taibbi. I love his writing.

2447
02:28:06,660 --> 02:28:11,100
I clipped him today about the
white fragility book which he

2448
02:28:11,100 --> 02:28:15,870
took down. This is very mean and
it's very misogynistic. And it's

2449
02:28:15,900 --> 02:28:19,410
and it's not. So I don't know if
they're really colleagues, or if

2450
02:28:19,410 --> 02:28:21,780
he's if he hates her Secretly, I
don't know if they're in

2451
02:28:21,780 --> 02:28:24,990
business together. Or she paid
by Rolling Stone

2452
02:28:24,990 --> 02:28:27,090
John C. Dvorak: tell there's
just separate actors working for

2453
02:28:27,090 --> 02:28:28,650
Rolling Stone. Oh, okay. So

2454
02:28:28,650 --> 02:28:30,930
Adam Curry: he's been he's been
okay. And then I might have to

2455
02:28:30,930 --> 02:28:33,900
take it back. But still, he's
passive aggressive because he's

2456
02:28:33,900 --> 02:28:37,020
being forced to do this. He does
not want to do those. He's being

2457
02:28:37,020 --> 02:28:40,620
forced to do I'll take it back.
But he should be a man and step

2458
02:28:40,620 --> 02:28:41,940
away from Rolling Stone.

2459
02:28:42,270 --> 02:28:44,970
John C. Dvorak: Well, it was
very disappointing. I don't go

2460
02:28:44,970 --> 02:28:48,420
as far as you do. But I was very
disappointed that he did this.

2461
02:28:49,470 --> 02:28:54,090
It was it was the it was the
little boy in the sixth grade

2462
02:28:54,090 --> 02:28:58,290
dipping the girls. Yeah,
ponytails in the inkwell. Yeah,

2463
02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:01,770
yeah. Which is you know, which
is which is okay, Boomer,

2464
02:29:01,890 --> 02:29:03,600
Adam Curry: something we never
should mention.

2465
02:29:04,439 --> 02:29:06,929
John C. Dvorak: Well, I mean, I
never had an equal in my life.

2466
02:29:06,929 --> 02:29:12,899
So this goes back to pre Boomer.
Boomer image. Yeah, free.

2467
02:29:12,899 --> 02:29:15,869
Ballmer. Yeah, it's an image
that's out there. And little

2468
02:29:15,869 --> 02:29:18,779
boys teasing little girls is not
an unusual thing. And this and

2469
02:29:18,779 --> 02:29:23,699
he's, I would say he's teasing
her to say the least. But this

2470
02:29:23,699 --> 02:29:28,679
is not the kind of thing that
works. Now, in the one What's

2471
02:29:28,679 --> 02:29:28,859
your

2472
02:29:28,860 --> 02:29:31,710
Adam Curry: why you why you
brought this year other than to

2473
02:29:31,860 --> 02:29:32,460
I don't know.

2474
02:29:33,690 --> 02:29:36,240
John C. Dvorak: It's interesting
to hear because I'm perplexed.

2475
02:29:36,270 --> 02:29:37,200
That's why

2476
02:29:37,740 --> 02:29:41,100
Adam Curry: it is perplexing. I
love what he writes. I love his

2477
02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:45,000
attitude, but that but he should
just if he doesn't want to do

2478
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:47,220
the show, then don't do the
show.

2479
02:29:47,970 --> 02:29:49,620
John C. Dvorak: This is the
problem. He's compromised

2480
02:29:49,620 --> 02:29:51,840
uncomfortable as a podcaster.
Let's start with that.

2481
02:29:51,930 --> 02:29:54,270
Adam Curry: Then he shouldn't do
podcast right just go right but

2482
02:29:54,270 --> 02:29:57,510
now. No, no, no. I'm telling
you. There's something going on

2483
02:29:57,510 --> 02:30:01,290
with him. He certainly didn't
get any money from that. The

2484
02:30:01,290 --> 02:30:03,870
Intercept thing he bailed out of
that I think he left with

2485
02:30:03,870 --> 02:30:04,380
nothing.

2486
02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:07,200
John C. Dvorak: Now, wouldn't
surprise me. Maybe he's got a

2487
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:11,340
crush on this girl. I don't
know. Well, she has to be

2488
02:30:11,370 --> 02:30:14,910
steamed up because as far as I'm
concerned, I think it hurt his

2489
02:30:14,910 --> 02:30:18,540
reputation as a objective
performer instead of bullshit

2490
02:30:18,540 --> 02:30:21,360
artists and have kind of had
nothing really heard her because

2491
02:30:21,360 --> 02:30:23,880
it was like made her look like
okay, she doesn't know what

2492
02:30:23,880 --> 02:30:26,100
she's just gonna make it up if
she doesn't know. Okay,

2493
02:30:26,130 --> 02:30:28,530
Adam Curry: you've made your
point. Let's get back to some

2494
02:30:28,530 --> 02:30:34,140
news. And since you steered us
in the direction, I will discuss

2495
02:30:34,140 --> 02:30:39,660
some sports news. Oh, is the
black national anthem coming up?

2496
02:30:40,740 --> 02:30:45,000
Being played before the before
the NFL football games, although

2497
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,570
apparently only the first week?
Why do all of them because you

2498
02:30:48,570 --> 02:30:54,360
know, I guess insincere about
black lives. But okay. And thank

2499
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:57,630
goodness, Jason Whitlock, who I
have brought to the show many

2500
02:30:57,630 --> 02:31:02,220
times has something smart to say
about how dumb this is.

2501
02:31:02,280 --> 02:31:05,490
Unknown: I think it's really
about a lack of leadership, and

2502
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:09,990
just a failure of men to stand
up and stand on the principles

2503
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:14,370
that they say they believe in.
And so when I looked at what the

2504
02:31:14,370 --> 02:31:19,350
NFL is doing, this goes against
every value that the NFL has

2505
02:31:19,350 --> 02:31:23,130
built itself on. Professional
sports have built themselves on

2506
02:31:23,130 --> 02:31:27,030
a celebration of Americana, and
the ideals and values that best

2507
02:31:27,030 --> 02:31:31,440
exemplify America. They built
themselves on unity and unifying

2508
02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:35,490
the country that the NFL starts
out its season, with everyone

2509
02:31:35,490 --> 02:31:39,600
standing for Lift Every Voice
and Sing the black national

2510
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:42,840
anthem, and then virtually
everyone on the field taking a

2511
02:31:42,840 --> 02:31:47,730
knee when the Star Spangled
Banner plays, the NFL will run

2512
02:31:47,730 --> 02:31:52,890
off a nice fat chunk of its
audience, and will never be seen

2513
02:31:52,890 --> 02:31:56,730
the same again. Because of the
failure leadership throughout

2514
02:31:56,730 --> 02:32:00,840
the NFL. There's no way you can
do any homework on Black Lives

2515
02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:04,980
Matters, and not see that it's a
Marxist org political

2516
02:32:04,980 --> 02:32:08,550
organization. It's not about
Black Death. It's not about

2517
02:32:08,550 --> 02:32:12,720
black men. It is a political
move. It's a communist political

2518
02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:16,800
move. If for those people that
stand on religious values, and

2519
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:20,280
this is where I say just the
failure of men. I've seen many

2520
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:23,370
of these guys, they claim their
Christianity and their religious

2521
02:32:23,370 --> 02:32:26,520
beliefs. Do they understand
Black Lives Matter? Communist

2522
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:33,030
Marxism is anti religious. This
is a historic failure of men and

2523
02:32:33,030 --> 02:32:37,410
leadership. This is cowardice at
its highest level. This is the

2524
02:32:37,410 --> 02:32:42,240
NFL jumping the shark and saying
we've quit being who we said we

2525
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:45,630
are weird now something else
because our money is on the

2526
02:32:45,630 --> 02:32:49,080
line. And we don't stand for the
values we said we stood for.

2527
02:32:50,100 --> 02:32:54,090
Adam Curry: There you go. That
is going to backfire on the NFL

2528
02:32:54,090 --> 02:33:00,150
so bad. He's dead. Right? If I
think he's right, what happens?

2529
02:33:00,900 --> 02:33:06,330
That's what the plan is. I don't
know what they they will have to

2530
02:33:06,330 --> 02:33:09,120
change something. They'll have
to do something about that.

2531
02:33:09,570 --> 02:33:12,300
John C. Dvorak: This is the one
I think he was on Don Lemon.

2532
02:33:12,300 --> 02:33:15,060
Shawn Don Lemon shut him down
when he said there was a

2533
02:33:15,060 --> 02:33:16,470
communist operation. No,

2534
02:33:16,470 --> 02:33:18,150
Adam Curry: I think that wasn't
that Terry.

2535
02:33:18,930 --> 02:33:21,030
John C. Dvorak: Could have been
a different guy that Don Lemon

2536
02:33:21,030 --> 02:33:22,080
shut down because he's,

2537
02:33:22,350 --> 02:33:24,180
Adam Curry: yeah, well, you know
what that stuff is like, that's

2538
02:33:24,180 --> 02:33:27,900
what, right? Twitter's is
tweeting. So I don't think it's

2539
02:33:27,900 --> 02:33:31,320
important to bring to our show.
It's like yeah, we've seen Don

2540
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:33,990
Lemon. I mean, once something
goes viral like that. I'm not

2541
02:33:33,990 --> 02:33:37,020
even interested in anymore. What
I am interested in lemon man.

2542
02:33:37,050 --> 02:33:39,450
I'm not interested in Don Lemon.
Oh, well,

2543
02:33:39,480 --> 02:33:42,690
John C. Dvorak: what's the wait,
wait. Oh, yeah. More sports, I

2544
02:33:42,690 --> 02:33:43,080
hope.

2545
02:33:44,730 --> 02:33:47,850
Adam Curry: No, I was just gonna
mention you said Don Lemon. Shep

2546
02:33:47,850 --> 02:33:50,130
Smith is returning to
television. Remember Shepard

2547
02:33:50,130 --> 02:33:51,660
Smith. He was the as we

2548
02:33:51,660 --> 02:33:52,470
John C. Dvorak: predicted he

2549
02:33:52,470 --> 02:33:54,660
Adam Curry: had a deal. Yep. And
do you know where he's coming

2550
02:33:54,660 --> 02:33:56,010
back? Well, I

2551
02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:57,630
John C. Dvorak: was guessing
NBC. Yeah.

2552
02:33:57,660 --> 02:34:02,220
Adam Curry: Except to start with
a primetime show on CNBC.

2553
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:06,360
John C. Dvorak: Which has to do
with see where's he fit into

2554
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:09,300
CNBC? It's a financial network

2555
02:34:09,300 --> 02:34:15,780
Adam Curry: after Yep. At night
after Kramer it's either Shark

2556
02:34:15,780 --> 02:34:20,070
Tank. See there's no programming
so it's going they are going to

2557
02:34:20,070 --> 02:34:23,700
try and blanket this as another
show. They've got Joy read now

2558
02:34:23,700 --> 02:34:25,710
she's been given a seven P Oh,

2559
02:34:25,710 --> 02:34:28,860
John C. Dvorak: she's an MSNBC.
Right. But she's Yes. But just

2560
02:34:28,860 --> 02:34:30,480
think it'd be you said CNN.

2561
02:34:30,509 --> 02:34:33,479
Adam Curry: Yes. But they have
both then it's all NBC

2562
02:34:33,479 --> 02:34:37,349
properties. He will not be doing
a financial NAD so that's what

2563
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:39,749
I'm saying is they had they're
trying to blanket it more

2564
02:34:39,749 --> 02:34:41,069
towards all the time.

2565
02:34:44,280 --> 02:34:50,040
John C. Dvorak: MTA T MTA knows
they're gonna run Oh, they don't

2566
02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:55,020
have any you right. There's no
proof goes to that. What does

2567
02:34:55,020 --> 02:35:00,180
that say? That's the old it was
Matthew slot. Yes, yes. Yes,

2568
02:35:00,180 --> 02:35:03,060
yes, yes. So they gave that to
joy read which and she will

2569
02:35:03,060 --> 02:35:06,660
she'll drop the ball and nobody
likes Joy read. So she's not

2570
02:35:06,660 --> 02:35:09,870
going to pick up any and so they
put him in at CNBC to try to

2571
02:35:09,870 --> 02:35:12,690
pick up I don't know who their
whatever whatever buddy watching

2572
02:35:12,870 --> 02:35:16,680
CNBC after that well after the
last closing bell boom.

2573
02:35:17,430 --> 02:35:19,980
Adam Curry: If they give Shark
Tank as the leading they'll

2574
02:35:19,980 --> 02:35:22,530
probably get something Shark
Tank is pretty well over there

2575
02:35:23,610 --> 02:35:26,820
doesn't matter he's probably on
deck for Brian Williams Brian

2576
02:35:26,820 --> 02:35:30,120
Williams is out. I'm telling you
that guy's guy you should have

2577
02:35:30,120 --> 02:35:34,230
been out. Yeah, this is the farm
team. They're replacing him and

2578
02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:37,830
I think Shep Smith will be
really good. And he'll be very

2579
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:42,000
credible for MSNBC, because he
has that right wing stingy of

2580
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:44,820
Fox. So I think that's pretty
good. Let's just look at some

2581
02:35:44,820 --> 02:35:50,460
quick noodle gun examples. So we
understand what is happening

2582
02:35:50,460 --> 02:35:54,930
with this politically correct
culture, the revolution which is

2583
02:35:54,960 --> 02:36:00,030
being funded by corporate
America. And let's see who's in

2584
02:36:00,030 --> 02:36:06,600
trouble. Oh, yes. Ford employees
are very angry and they look

2585
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:09,570
like they might take some
action. Do you know why?

2586
02:36:14,010 --> 02:36:15,090
John C. Dvorak: Black Lives
Matter.

2587
02:36:15,630 --> 02:36:21,300
Adam Curry: Lows. They do not
agree with Ford producing cop

2588
02:36:21,300 --> 02:36:23,160
cars. So they're not

2589
02:36:24,840 --> 02:36:27,990
John C. Dvorak: Wow, this is the
best it's a really

2590
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:33,960
Adam Curry: good one, isn't it?
Oops, oops, oops, oops. How do

2591
02:36:33,960 --> 02:36:42,960
you see my noodle going on
effect now one other interesting

2592
02:36:42,960 --> 02:36:43,500
little

2593
02:36:43,560 --> 02:36:45,840
John C. Dvorak: Can I before you
go on with this guy you have

2594
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:51,210
another comment? Whenever green
hat is strong strike against one

2595
02:36:51,210 --> 02:36:54,930
of the you know this, professors
that some other guys that got

2596
02:36:54,930 --> 02:36:58,020
kicked out of the school,
Evergreen adapt when the kids

2597
02:36:58,020 --> 02:37:00,750
said no, we have to have this
special day and we agree We're

2598
02:37:00,750 --> 02:37:06,540
protesting and evergreen, which
is a cheap place to go and gives

2599
02:37:06,570 --> 02:37:10,290
it with a quality education.
They should have expelled those

2600
02:37:10,320 --> 02:37:11,610
kids immediately.

2601
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:13,740
Adam Curry: Yes, of course.

2602
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:17,310
John C. Dvorak: Ford should fire
these employees immediately.

2603
02:37:17,310 --> 02:37:22,470
You've got to get these people
out of your company as fast as

2604
02:37:22,470 --> 02:37:25,920
you can and people are just oh
let's just do what they say. I

2605
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:29,070
mean their noodle gun got the
noodle boy is that true? Oh,

2606
02:37:29,400 --> 02:37:32,220
managers Yeah, yes yes.

2607
02:37:32,220 --> 02:37:35,850
Adam Curry: Yes. Well they've
they're of course in Amsterdam.

2608
02:37:39,090 --> 02:37:43,590
In in the your Don very famous
neighborhood I live very closely

2609
02:37:43,590 --> 02:37:46,770
lived in it for a number of
years. There's a very famous

2610
02:37:48,030 --> 02:37:52,170
head a sculpted head that is
outside what used to be an

2611
02:37:52,170 --> 02:37:54,510
Apotek curry is that what it is
I'm saying it right like a

2612
02:37:54,810 --> 02:38:01,080
drugstore we go get your
pharmacy Apotek curry, a pocket

2613
02:38:01,380 --> 02:38:04,860
pocket pocket theory. Thank you.
Yes, I can't say the carry

2614
02:38:04,950 --> 02:38:08,310
apothecary I can't say it
because I grew up saying uptake

2615
02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:09,300
which is the Dutch

2616
02:38:09,330 --> 02:38:11,280
John C. Dvorak: version of
course pocket is no big deal.

2617
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:15,480
Adam Curry: Thank you store
drugstore. It's called the

2618
02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:20,010
gatekeeper of Hyrum strat number
seven. And it's been there for

2619
02:38:20,160 --> 02:38:25,530
hundreds hundreds of years and
it represents an Arabian

2620
02:38:25,890 --> 02:38:30,570
medicine man who had you know
the from the old scripture this

2621
02:38:30,570 --> 02:38:35,400
is the Arabian medicine man and
and so it was used as a

2622
02:38:35,400 --> 02:38:39,000
marketing tool for the pocket
tech but apitherapy that used to

2623
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:45,450
be there. Of course it's it's
called the gatekeeper because

2624
02:38:45,780 --> 02:38:49,530
the hopper because its mouth is
the gate like ba you can even

2625
02:38:49,530 --> 02:38:56,580
look it up DGAP Er D newer gap
er f course it looks like a

2626
02:38:56,610 --> 02:39:01,500
black face or African American
with red lips and earrings and

2627
02:39:01,500 --> 02:39:07,290
so it has to go even though it
has never represented that it

2628
02:39:07,290 --> 02:39:10,620
has nothing to do with you
should look at it the gape at

2629
02:39:10,620 --> 02:39:14,490
the Cape it's not by the way do
not mistake that with Goetze

2630
02:39:14,730 --> 02:39:15,060
it's

2631
02:39:15,660 --> 02:39:17,640
John C. Dvorak: a gave me the
spelling again

2632
02:39:17,699 --> 02:39:23,459
Adam Curry: de space gap er is
that should hit just by that the

2633
02:39:23,459 --> 02:39:28,439
father and then look at the look
at the pictures. Oh yeah, it

2634
02:39:28,439 --> 02:39:33,239
pops up right away from me. So
you should see it Oh yeah. Oh,

2635
02:39:33,239 --> 02:39:36,299
yeah. So that's just as good as
That's racist.

2636
02:39:37,230 --> 02:39:39,390
John C. Dvorak: Tracy see two of
them. I see actually three of

2637
02:39:39,390 --> 02:39:41,220
them I see one with well,
they're

2638
02:39:41,220 --> 02:39:43,830
Adam Curry: all over the place.
They're all over the countries

2639
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:46,710
like a major thing but this is
the first one to go so of course

2640
02:39:46,710 --> 02:39:48,810
they're all gonna go and I've
liked

2641
02:39:48,810 --> 02:39:53,130
John C. Dvorak: them. Even a
black person doesn't matter.

2642
02:39:54,330 --> 02:39:56,520
Well, I guess not when they take
down elk.

2643
02:39:57,600 --> 02:40:01,020
Adam Curry: Elk, hey, they also
burned Melania statue in

2644
02:40:01,650 --> 02:40:07,830
Lithuania or wherever she's
from? Why? Because she's

2645
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:08,400
hateful.

2646
02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:10,560
John C. Dvorak: The why is why
does she have a statue?

2647
02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:14,310
Adam Curry: Because that's where
she's from? Was it? No, it's the

2648
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:18,000
only see if I can find it.
Slovenia. What am I saying

2649
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:21,690
Slovenia, US First Lady Melania
Trump statue, wooden statue of

2650
02:40:21,690 --> 02:40:24,960
her looking out over the fields
where she's from. I burned her

2651
02:40:25,140 --> 02:40:25,830
the bar under

2652
02:40:26,519 --> 02:40:29,189
John C. Dvorak: two clicks. And
ask her it's kind of a just an

2653
02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:34,139
offbeat question. What is this
guy have this crazy look on his

2654
02:40:34,139 --> 02:40:34,679
face?

2655
02:40:35,460 --> 02:40:37,050
Adam Curry: I don't know the
answer to that you should

2656
02:40:37,050 --> 02:40:39,960
probably look into the history
of the gay paper. Maybe there's

2657
02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:41,970
something coming out. And he's
like, whoa.

2658
02:40:42,750 --> 02:40:45,030
John C. Dvorak: It looks like
he's been charged by a rhino.

2659
02:40:46,770 --> 02:40:53,340
Adam Curry: It's, it's about
right. It's about right. Kudos

2660
02:40:53,340 --> 02:40:59,310
to Lou Dobbs, who I think had
the best 16 second comment of

2661
02:40:59,310 --> 02:41:03,300
the week when it comes to cancel
culture. Black Lives Matter and

2662
02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:06,000
our noodle gun. Breaking news.
Now

2663
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:08,850
Unknown: the folks at the
Washington Post running an op ed

2664
02:41:08,850 --> 02:41:13,740
it's titled quote, both
namesakes of Washington and Lee

2665
02:41:13,740 --> 02:41:17,820
University perpetrated racial
terror. The school should be

2666
02:41:17,820 --> 02:41:21,570
renamed. Again this from the
Washington Post

2667
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:28,770
Adam Curry: it's so hilarious.

2668
02:41:28,830 --> 02:41:31,470
John C. Dvorak: You can't that
was a good debt definitely is I

2669
02:41:31,470 --> 02:41:34,230
make he's gonna give you a clip
of the day for digging that up.

2670
02:41:34,320 --> 02:41:37,260
Adam Curry: Well, I got I got
very lucky on that one. But I

2671
02:41:37,260 --> 02:41:41,550
appreciate whoever whoever dug
it. Oh, that was you know, that

2672
02:41:41,550 --> 02:41:49,320
was stack. Stack. X. We have the
best producers and since

2673
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:51,450
John C. Dvorak: they have not
given me stuff B couple years

2674
02:41:51,450 --> 02:41:54,870
ago now yours exclusive. I've
been his stack he gets once you

2675
02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:55,440
get a room.

2676
02:41:55,500 --> 02:41:58,770
Adam Curry: I've been his boy
for several years ever since. I

2677
02:41:58,770 --> 02:42:01,980
think it was well, I'm not going
to know if that's between you

2678
02:42:01,980 --> 02:42:06,000
and stek. I have nothing to do
with your personal issues. Stack

2679
02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:12,840
and I have a wonderful producer
producer relationship. One more

2680
02:42:12,840 --> 02:42:17,250
ever use one more before we take
a break. So we had the big

2681
02:42:17,250 --> 02:42:20,820
meeting the big meeting stop
hate for profit, the ad boycott,

2682
02:42:20,820 --> 02:42:23,520
they all went to the face bag
headquarters to sit down with

2683
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:28,350
Mark and what's their name,
leaning forward to name

2684
02:42:28,380 --> 02:42:32,640
Sandberg, Sheryl, Sheryl
Sandberg and leading this charge

2685
02:42:32,670 --> 02:42:35,460
because at the bottom of the
end, it's the Jolly Green

2686
02:42:35,460 --> 02:42:40,350
giant's what does the name
Sleeping Giants there they were

2687
02:42:40,350 --> 02:42:43,350
there and all these different
people but it appears leading

2688
02:42:43,350 --> 02:42:45,960
the charge. And again, it
doesn't really hurt Facebook

2689
02:42:45,960 --> 02:42:48,330
that much. We've learned these
big brands don't want to

2690
02:42:48,330 --> 02:42:51,960
advertise. But this does show
you kind of the state of

2691
02:42:51,960 --> 02:42:56,850
affairs, as it is the anti
Defamation League who was truly

2692
02:42:56,850 --> 02:43:01,380
leading this stop hate for
trough for profit ad boycott

2693
02:43:01,620 --> 02:43:07,260
against the face bags. And it's
worse, listening to the spokes

2694
02:43:07,260 --> 02:43:08,880
whole talk about the meeting.

2695
02:43:09,029 --> 02:43:12,179
Unknown: I think the meeting was
disappointing to say the least.

2696
02:43:12,629 --> 02:43:16,319
You know, we had laid out an
agenda weeks ago. For Facebook.

2697
02:43:16,709 --> 02:43:19,709
Our recommendations are simple
and straightforward and

2698
02:43:19,709 --> 02:43:21,809
transparent. They've been
published on our website since

2699
02:43:21,809 --> 02:43:25,859
mid June. Facebook asked us for
this meeting. And we expected

2700
02:43:25,859 --> 02:43:29,339
them to share details and
timeframes to execute on those

2701
02:43:29,339 --> 02:43:32,729
recommendations. Instead, we
didn't get any details. We

2702
02:43:32,729 --> 02:43:36,989
didn't get any timeframes, no
commitments, no outcomes, like

2703
02:43:36,989 --> 02:43:40,529
instituting real civil rights
leadership in the C suite of the

2704
02:43:40,529 --> 02:43:43,709
company. So these issues are
strategically integrated across

2705
02:43:43,740 --> 02:43:46,050
Adam Curry: we need a chief
Civil Rights Officer at

2706
02:43:46,050 --> 02:43:48,390
Facebook, this is fantastic what
they're asking for

2707
02:43:48,420 --> 02:43:50,790
Unknown: the company. So these
issues are strategically

2708
02:43:50,790 --> 02:43:53,250
integrated across the
organization. We want

2709
02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:57,000
transparent, regular,
independent audits of hate

2710
02:43:57,000 --> 02:43:59,760
content on the platform. And
this is really critical. They

2711
02:43:59,760 --> 02:44:03,990
will report on how much hate
content had taken off. But all

2712
02:44:03,990 --> 02:44:07,620
it is is a numerator with no
denominator with no independent

2713
02:44:07,620 --> 02:44:10,380
verification. So we have little
evidence of what progress

2714
02:44:10,380 --> 02:44:13,080
they're really making. And I
will say that they shared with

2715
02:44:13,080 --> 02:44:17,550
us today something we've heard
before that their AI, you know,

2716
02:44:17,580 --> 02:44:21,030
eliminates 89% of the hate
content on their platform. But

2717
02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:24,000
to be really honest with you,
Ford Motor Company, one of the

2718
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:27,960
participants and stop a for
profit. They can't say 89% of

2719
02:44:27,960 --> 02:44:29,220
our seatbelts work.

2720
02:44:29,280 --> 02:44:33,420
Adam Curry: This is where
Facebook is screwed itself. They

2721
02:44:33,420 --> 02:44:37,800
had all the test to fit.
Zuckerberg officer was

2722
02:44:37,800 --> 02:44:42,600
testifying before Congress. AI
will take care of it. We have

2723
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:47,160
some teams in the meantime, AI
can find it. You can't find HATE

2724
02:44:47,160 --> 02:44:52,650
YOU LITTLE dweeb, defy. Defining
and finding hate with artificial

2725
02:44:52,650 --> 02:44:57,900
intelligence is too subjective.
Everything is hate these days,

2726
02:44:57,900 --> 02:45:01,080
there's no way you can do it.
And now the end anti Defamation

2727
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:04,980
League is waiting for you to
fill in the other 13% that you

2728
02:45:04,980 --> 02:45:08,550
can't change, which you can
never change. It's impossible.

2729
02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:10,980
Unknown: But look, this is a red
herring at best and really

2730
02:45:10,980 --> 02:45:14,820
misleading at worst, for
starters, 89% of what they

2731
02:45:14,820 --> 02:45:18,330
define as problematic. That's
problematic. But I don't want

2732
02:45:18,330 --> 02:45:21,330
Mark Zuckerberg to telling me
what's in bounds or out of

2733
02:45:21,330 --> 02:45:21,750
bounds.

2734
02:45:21,780 --> 02:45:24,540
Adam Curry: Oh, we want the anti
Defamation League to tell us

2735
02:45:24,540 --> 02:45:25,410
apparently,

2736
02:45:25,710 --> 02:45:27,990
Unknown: the fact of the matter
is Facebook should do better

2737
02:45:27,990 --> 02:45:31,710
than 89%. In the same way, all
of their businesses, all their

2738
02:45:31,710 --> 02:45:35,520
advertisers know that when it
comes to fighting, hey, you got

2739
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:37,110
to be 100%

2740
02:45:38,220 --> 02:45:41,280
Adam Curry: They're toast.
There's no way that can ever be

2741
02:45:41,280 --> 02:45:45,630
most. You can't you can't do you
can't you can even determine

2742
02:45:45,630 --> 02:45:49,350
what hate is. If there be an
actual law against it. If you

2743
02:45:49,350 --> 02:45:52,560
could, you can determine fate.

2744
02:45:52,980 --> 02:45:54,750
John C. Dvorak: Well, who's
toast again? Let's hear this

2745
02:45:54,750 --> 02:45:56,820
again. I want to hear this
again. Who's toast?

2746
02:45:57,599 --> 02:46:02,429
Adam Curry: Zuckerberg Xhaka,
Wasser this toast, someone's

2747
02:46:02,429 --> 02:46:05,309
going to have to step down when
they can't do it. They want they

2748
02:46:05,309 --> 02:46:10,169
want the civil rights person in
the C suite. So you have CEO

2749
02:46:10,259 --> 02:46:13,079
Chief Executive Officer Chief
Technology Officer Chief

2750
02:46:13,079 --> 02:46:19,019
Operations Officer, Chief Civil
Rights Officer, maybe just CRO

2751
02:46:19,019 --> 02:46:21,449
chief rights officer, but that
would conflict with Chief

2752
02:46:21,449 --> 02:46:25,469
Revenue Officer officer. No, no,
this is not going to this won't

2753
02:46:25,469 --> 02:46:27,659
work out. Well. I mean, sure the
company is gonna be great. I'll

2754
02:46:27,659 --> 02:46:32,849
go on forever. But do you really
want the anti Defamation League

2755
02:46:32,909 --> 02:46:35,489
yapping at your heels for the
rest of your life?

2756
02:46:38,130 --> 02:46:40,080
John C. Dvorak: He's gonna have
to worm his way out of this

2757
02:46:40,080 --> 02:46:41,010
somehow. Yeah.

2758
02:46:42,060 --> 02:46:44,250
Adam Curry: Yeah, by the way, he
speaks fluent Mandarin.

2759
02:46:46,920 --> 02:46:50,280
John C. Dvorak: Well, you know
there is that element is real

2760
02:46:50,280 --> 02:46:51,120
heavy. Yeah.

2761
02:46:51,300 --> 02:46:53,490
Adam Curry: I didn't want to say
I did not I was not going to

2762
02:46:53,490 --> 02:46:57,120
pull the old his wife is
probably a spy for the CCP. But

2763
02:46:57,120 --> 02:46:58,230
now that you mention it.

2764
02:46:59,220 --> 02:47:02,160
John C. Dvorak: I didn't say
anything. I just said his wife.

2765
02:47:03,360 --> 02:47:07,170
Adam Curry: Okay, I said it. I'm
gonna show my son move by donate

2766
02:47:07,260 --> 02:47:08,130
to no agenda.

2767
02:47:08,220 --> 02:47:10,650
Unknown: Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh, yeah,

2768
02:47:10,650 --> 02:47:10,980
that'd be

2769
02:47:10,980 --> 02:47:21,180
John C. Dvorak: fun. No All
right. We have a few people to

2770
02:47:21,180 --> 02:47:26,790
thank for show 1258 Starting
with Audra Matthews on behalf of

2771
02:47:26,790 --> 02:47:34,440
her boyfriend Don who turns 40
is on the list. $160.16 Jeffrey

2772
02:47:34,470 --> 02:47:39,570
at least see I think in
Bethlehem Pennsylvania 150. For

2773
02:47:39,570 --> 02:47:47,370
another birthday. Alicia Alicia.
The birthday July 9 Sure acid of

2774
02:47:47,370 --> 02:47:52,500
the Scandinavian woods in court.
Teece ontario 141 68. Tristan

2775
02:47:52,500 --> 02:47:56,340
Hardy in Northfield falls
Vermont one on one on one el

2776
02:47:56,340 --> 02:48:02,490
liebel in Newark Delaware 100
Short candy and avian in Jasper

2777
02:48:02,490 --> 02:48:08,040
Alberta 100 from the nine oh
this is money from the nine amo

2778
02:48:08,070 --> 02:48:10,140
Adam Curry: meet up Oh, okay.
Oh, nice.

2779
02:48:11,340 --> 02:48:13,860
John C. Dvorak: I can't even see
the nest next one because

2780
02:48:14,820 --> 02:48:17,850
apparently put in a huge notice
Rambo mommy just

2781
02:48:17,850 --> 02:48:22,680
Adam Curry: see it's an echo.
Prof ki Marcin from Lansing,

2782
02:48:22,680 --> 02:48:26,790
Michigan. Let me just see. I
figured I better make let me

2783
02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:30,630
just see what this it's $100
figure better make a donation

2784
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:33,510
before chiming in on a topic
spend too long as a douchebag.

2785
02:48:33,660 --> 02:48:39,870
Please forgive me. Okay. You got
to do. It. sent me a whole note

2786
02:48:40,350 --> 02:48:45,900
about dog DNA testing. Yes, very
good. Thank you very much. Echo

2787
02:48:45,900 --> 02:48:48,990
proskin Marcin great name.

2788
02:48:51,060 --> 02:48:54,540
John C. Dvorak: Now we have Alan
Hurley from coming Georgia and I

2789
02:48:54,540 --> 02:48:57,960
do have a handwritten note I
want to look at all right. He

2790
02:48:57,960 --> 02:49:03,780
says he's he's only been
listening for two weeks. Which

2791
02:49:03,780 --> 02:49:08,430
is I like this. I'm not sure
that I needed D douching. Yeah,

2792
02:49:08,460 --> 02:49:09,660
he does. You need to do

2793
02:49:11,580 --> 02:49:13,410
Unknown: you need deuced

2794
02:49:14,850 --> 02:49:16,890
John C. Dvorak: Keep up the
great work. Stay healthy. Thank

2795
02:49:16,890 --> 02:49:20,310
you. All right. Richard. There
is another note coming up today.

2796
02:49:20,550 --> 02:49:21,630
Which is, which was

2797
02:49:21,630 --> 02:49:22,440
Adam Curry: the one you really
thought

2798
02:49:24,510 --> 02:49:31,500
John C. Dvorak: is Richard Duke
and mattaponi Virginia's 9090 pm

2799
02:49:31,500 --> 02:49:40,140
strokes in Maastricht
Netherlands 808 boob. Job a boob

2800
02:49:40,260 --> 02:49:48,150
John Greiner in Hendersonville,
Tennessee 7774 177 70/50

2801
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:50,610
Adam Curry: birthday to himself
because that's his birthday.

2802
02:49:50,940 --> 02:49:51,750
Seven 770.

2803
02:49:55,140 --> 02:49:58,020
John C. Dvorak: Brian nonnamous
74 Kristen Franklin in

2804
02:49:58,020 --> 02:49:59,970
Abbotsford BC Yes.

2805
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,310
Adam Curry: Find this needs
reading my name is Kristen and

2806
02:50:02,310 --> 02:50:05,250
this donation is for my
boyfriend Derek who listens to

2807
02:50:05,250 --> 02:50:07,860
your podcast every week. He has
not made a donation to the show

2808
02:50:07,860 --> 02:50:10,890
but has bought some kick ass
merch from the show when

2809
02:50:10,890 --> 02:50:13,140
actually bought it from no
agenda shop. Oh yeah, we don't

2810
02:50:13,140 --> 02:50:18,330
have merch. We don't have merch,
but actually, that is not in our

2811
02:50:18,330 --> 02:50:20,910
vocabulary, but it doesn't
matter because it's so nice. I

2812
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:22,350
John C. Dvorak: don't like the
word merch. No.

2813
02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:25,530
Adam Curry: I would like to have
a D douchey. For him in hopes

2814
02:50:25,530 --> 02:50:28,710
that he can continue regular
donations. Also happy birthdays.

2815
02:50:28,710 --> 02:50:36,660
He turned 35 on July 2. Very
nice. Kristen, you are a good

2816
02:50:36,750 --> 02:50:37,470
girlfriend.

2817
02:50:39,480 --> 02:50:42,660
John C. Dvorak: John Carney and
Alpharetta, Georgia 60 to 90

2818
02:50:43,650 --> 02:50:46,770
Tommy Barnes in Midland, Texas
56.

2819
02:50:46,890 --> 02:50:52,350
Adam Curry: And he has a
birthday donation 56 On Friday,

2820
02:50:52,350 --> 02:50:55,020
thank you very much Tommy on the
list a donation.

2821
02:50:55,290 --> 02:51:02,610
John C. Dvorak: Sam van hoor in
Amsterdam 5555 Martin Benedictus

2822
02:51:02,610 --> 02:51:03,480
in the good running

2823
02:51:04,050 --> 02:51:05,010
Adam Curry: Groningen.

2824
02:51:06,330 --> 02:51:11,370
John C. Dvorak: Counting getting
5533 John Tucker, Omaha,

2825
02:51:11,370 --> 02:51:16,800
Nebraska 5510 Sir Tom Darian de
force Wisconsin 5510. Robert

2826
02:51:16,800 --> 02:51:19,710
closures double nickels on the
dime Robert Klein in Oregon,

2827
02:51:19,710 --> 02:51:23,400
Wisconsin with a must read in
over 370 Here's the must read

2828
02:51:23,400 --> 02:51:29,130
notice. With a signature. Thank
you so much for keeping my

2829
02:51:29,130 --> 02:51:33,150
amygdala from swelling up during
the Great bat stew flu panic and

2830
02:51:33,150 --> 02:51:38,490
unhinged Orange Man bad riots of
2020 you are doing the Lord's

2831
02:51:38,490 --> 02:51:44,160
work of creating herd immunity
against mind control. That just

2832
02:51:44,160 --> 02:51:46,590
sounds a little Moscow in the
great and beautiful state of

2833
02:51:46,590 --> 02:51:51,000
Wisconsin. A little Moscow I'm
guessing is Madison probably if

2834
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:53,640
there are any dame's in the
area, please hook me up you

2835
02:51:53,640 --> 02:51:57,240
should start a dating service as
an exit strategy. I found you

2836
02:51:57,240 --> 02:52:00,420
guys from the GRE and I've
drifted away from Joe. I'm now

2837
02:52:00,420 --> 02:52:03,600
all in on no agenda DH I'm
plugged in MoeFactz.com I love

2838
02:52:03,600 --> 02:52:06,150
all of the great insight jingles
and humor without the trauma

2839
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:10,350
based propaganda and then five M
traffic's and I really would

2840
02:52:10,350 --> 02:52:12,480
appreciate a D douching. You got
it.

2841
02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:15,570
Unknown: You spend. Do.

2842
02:52:16,530 --> 02:52:18,990
John C. Dvorak: You provide a
great service to your country

2843
02:52:18,990 --> 02:52:22,590
and we'll keep punching people
in the mouth for you. Robert

2844
02:52:22,590 --> 02:52:27,420
Klein, the lone wolf from
Moscow. Little Moscow, south of

2845
02:52:27,420 --> 02:52:36,870
Moscow. Onward. Luke Woodley
5050 Mary Hui 50, and the

2846
02:52:36,870 --> 02:52:39,540
following people or $50 donors
name and location starting with

2847
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Mary Hui, and James darter in
Oklahoma City. Ilana Bowie in

2848
02:52:47,550 --> 02:52:53,520
point cook Victoria, Australia
could be Bo Robert dry cussin

2849
02:52:53,520 --> 02:52:56,490
dry Kosan and Oshkosh Robert we
haven't heard from him for a

2850
02:52:56,490 --> 02:53:01,470
while. Joel Giroux in another
old 50 in Bakersfield,

2851
02:53:01,590 --> 02:53:07,740
Christopher Rivera in Austin.
Right Edward Mazurek in Memphis,

2852
02:53:08,100 --> 02:53:10,710
Sir Hey Musa, the Piedmont
province in Mooresville, North

2853
02:53:10,710 --> 02:53:15,360
Carolina. You go Salgado,
Jonathan Meyer and Xenia

2854
02:53:15,930 --> 02:53:21,060
Jeffries cinnamon in South
Euclid. That's an Ohio and last

2855
02:53:21,060 --> 02:53:23,850
but not least, sir Brett Farrell
in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

2856
02:53:23,850 --> 02:53:27,090
That's all our producers for
show 1250 I want to thank each

2857
02:53:27,090 --> 02:53:29,520
and every one of them and
everybody else with lower

2858
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:31,800
amounts for helping keeping the
show going

2859
02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:35,730
Adam Curry: and I need to reach
back to Sir acid of the candy

2860
02:53:35,730 --> 02:53:41,220
Navion woods this was actually
200 ad dollars and one cent

2861
02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:45,540
candy and avian dollar Rhett's,
which means he becomes an

2862
02:53:45,540 --> 02:53:49,380
Associate Executive Producer and
I was actually setting up for

2863
02:53:49,380 --> 02:53:52,590
the no agenda meetup segments.
So I didn't read along I missed

2864
02:53:52,590 --> 02:53:55,350
this one. And it is my job to
catch it. So I'm glad I did. He

2865
02:53:55,350 --> 02:53:58,860
says no, no jingles no karma. I
would like to make a shout out

2866
02:53:58,860 --> 02:54:02,880
to my late father who I buried
on Wednesday. Cancer karma could

2867
02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:06,990
work but it's COPD karma that he
really needed. I'd like to ask

2868
02:54:06,990 --> 02:54:09,690
everyone who knows me I know
agenda social and the true troll

2869
02:54:09,690 --> 02:54:15,570
room to pour out some skunk as
10% hobo beer for my dad. So

2870
02:54:15,570 --> 02:54:21,060
Long and Thanks for everything
old man. Rick. Rest in peace.

2871
02:54:22,470 --> 02:54:25,440
I'm glad we caught that and I
think he actually is in the

2872
02:54:25,440 --> 02:54:29,580
troll room as we speak. So yes,
we'll pour out a virtual one for

2873
02:54:29,580 --> 02:54:34,050
him. Absolutely. And throw in a
guard coat karma why not? You've

2874
02:54:34,050 --> 02:54:41,220
got karma. And thank you all
again for participating in this

2875
02:54:41,220 --> 02:54:44,430
little experiment we call value
for value which keeps us on the

2876
02:54:44,430 --> 02:54:48,630
air. We are pretty much Kancil
culture kryptonite with this.

2877
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:52,020
And I'm very very happy about
it. consider supporting us for

2878
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our next program. You can do
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2879
02:55:06,240 --> 02:55:10,410
It is the holy crap it is the
ninth of July 2020 Here's the

2880
02:55:10,410 --> 02:55:12,900
birthday list. Kristin Franklin
says Happy Birthday to boyfriend

2881
02:55:12,900 --> 02:55:17,190
Derek 35 was his age on the
second of July. Joshua says

2882
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:20,250
Happy Birthday to her sister
Marsh who turned 32 On the sixth

2883
02:55:20,490 --> 02:55:25,950
John Greiner 50 On the seventh
Magewell Espanyol 37th on 37th

2884
02:55:25,950 --> 02:55:28,770
on March 3, but we're still
mentioning him because his

2885
02:55:28,770 --> 02:55:32,310
donation about Audra Matthews is
Happy Birthday to her boyfriend

2886
02:55:32,310 --> 02:55:36,990
Don he'll be he was 40
Yesterday. Jeffrey Alicia

2887
02:55:37,020 --> 02:55:42,930
celebrates two day Tommy Barnes
56 tomorrow. And Alana Poe says

2888
02:55:42,930 --> 02:55:46,500
Happy Birthday to her OTG uncle
Morgan bow in Melbourne,

2889
02:55:46,500 --> 02:55:50,040
Australia and finally
celebrating this Saturday the

2890
02:55:50,070 --> 02:55:54,330
elevens Tina Marie curry
completes another trip around

2891
02:55:54,330 --> 02:55:58,410
the sun and I will make sure she
gets her free Slurpee at 711

2892
02:55:58,410 --> 02:56:00,630
Happy birthday from everybody
here at the best podcast in the

2893
02:56:00,630 --> 02:56:01,440
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2894
02:56:10,320 --> 02:56:16,590
don't want to be induced we do
have a title change or might get

2895
02:56:17,460 --> 02:56:20,970
becomes a fight counts today and
we congratulate him with that

2896
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:24,840
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2897
02:56:24,840 --> 02:56:29,520
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counts of Colorado we welcome

2898
02:56:29,520 --> 02:56:32,220
you to our peered map search and
you can find that at

2899
02:56:32,250 --> 02:56:40,200
itm.im/peerage. We do have one
two, we have two nice things and

2900
02:56:40,200 --> 02:56:44,880
we have a one Daming so I think
we should get all that ready if

2901
02:56:44,940 --> 02:56:45,480
you are.

2902
02:56:46,020 --> 02:56:49,560
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, hold on.
Okay, here it is. Sorry. There

2903
02:56:49,560 --> 02:56:49,620
it

2904
02:56:49,620 --> 02:56:54,270
Adam Curry: is. Very nice. One
more. Okay, there we go. Adam

2905
02:56:54,270 --> 02:57:00,090
shootie Phil Marvels and almost
lady one of the legs please hop

2906
02:57:00,090 --> 02:57:03,030
up on the podium all three of
you today. Join the no agenda

2907
02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:06,030
roundtable with no agenda.
Knights and Dames. Thank you for

2908
02:57:06,030 --> 02:57:09,120
your contribution of $1,000
that's what gets you to

2909
02:57:09,120 --> 02:57:13,440
knighthood and I'm very proud to
pronounce the KV CERAM night of

2910
02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:18,630
the Ozark Mountains sir maples.
And now finally lady one of the

2911
02:57:18,630 --> 02:57:21,720
legs for you. We've got hookers
and blow we've got red boys and

2912
02:57:21,720 --> 02:57:27,420
Chardonnay by odd requests my PO
to foo and Mojito. We also have

2913
02:57:27,630 --> 02:57:30,300
redheads and Rhys we got bong
hits and bourbon we got

2914
02:57:30,300 --> 02:57:33,660
Rubenesque limited Rosae we got
ginger ale and durables. We got

2915
02:57:33,660 --> 02:57:36,570
breast milk and pablum, but I'm
sure you'll go for the mutton in

2916
02:57:36,570 --> 02:57:40,200
Mead. It is waiting for you here
at the round table if you don't

2917
02:57:40,200 --> 02:57:44,400
mind go over to no agenda
nation.com/rings That'll be a

2918
02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:47,040
spot where you can give us some
of your info so we can get you

2919
02:57:47,250 --> 02:57:51,750
your signet ring your ceiling
wax and your official no agenda

2920
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:54,990
certificate the You are indeed a
night or day of the no agenda

2921
02:57:55,020 --> 02:57:56,670
roundtable no one

2922
02:58:03,060 --> 02:58:07,320
is like a party and it was a big
party at the mid Island meet up

2923
02:58:07,320 --> 02:58:08,550
we have a report

2924
02:58:08,580 --> 02:58:11,160
Unknown: I'm gonna throw to our
resident night in house at the

2925
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:15,210
mid Island Canada avian meet up
sir candidate AV.

2926
02:58:15,600 --> 02:58:21,540
I've traveled 15 hours and took
a ferry to get here because Adam

2927
02:58:21,540 --> 02:58:25,740
actually watches the view for
me. And that's invaluable

2928
02:58:26,100 --> 02:58:29,490
in the morning everybody this is
Tom, I noticed that this mid

2929
02:58:29,490 --> 02:58:32,490
Island candidate via meetup it's
been a huge success. We've just

2930
02:58:32,490 --> 02:58:35,310
been chatting anything we want
to at this table. It's been

2931
02:58:35,310 --> 02:58:39,090
great. A little walk down the
effects still affecting us. But

2932
02:58:39,360 --> 02:58:41,790
whatever. We're all here we're
having a good time and I want to

2933
02:58:41,790 --> 02:58:42,990
pass it on to Nat

2934
02:58:43,560 --> 02:58:46,320
in the morning man McDonald's
here from the Nymo 10 minutes

2935
02:58:46,320 --> 02:58:46,980
down the road.

2936
02:58:47,250 --> 02:58:50,850
This is certainly haven't
donated enough. And I just want

2937
02:58:50,850 --> 02:58:53,730
to say that just Lane Maxwell
did not kill herself.

2938
02:58:55,980 --> 02:59:01,200
This is Russ from Arrington, I
was half an hour to get here and

2939
02:59:01,200 --> 02:59:03,690
I'm having a hell of a good
time. I have no idea what these

2940
02:59:03,690 --> 02:59:08,760
guys are talking about. But it's
just been struck in the mouth

2941
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:12,930
several times. And it feels
good. Loving Life peace and

2942
02:59:12,930 --> 02:59:13,680
happiness.

2943
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:17,460
Adam Curry: I just figured it
out. I know what part of the big

2944
02:59:17,460 --> 02:59:24,390
appeal is with the meetups. I
think and just hearing these and

2945
02:59:24,390 --> 02:59:27,180
every meetup I've been to is
similar when people who don't

2946
02:59:27,180 --> 02:59:31,380
know each other, but we all have
something in common. And we may

2947
02:59:31,380 --> 02:59:35,400
not all believe the same thing.
But I think the secret to the

2948
02:59:35,430 --> 02:59:40,560
success of the meetups is that
we allow ourselves to be awkward

2949
02:59:40,560 --> 02:59:46,530
and clumsy. seriously think
about it. Everyone in that clip

2950
02:59:46,530 --> 02:59:49,800
is somehow awkward and clumsy
but the same and everyone's just

2951
02:59:49,800 --> 02:59:54,240
kind of we it's some it's a very
gracious type of thing i i still

2952
02:59:54,240 --> 02:59:58,380
can't completely explain it. But
with that in mind is like

2953
02:59:58,410 --> 03:00:00,900
everyone can come in and see
They say something weird or

2954
03:00:00,900 --> 03:00:04,410
funky or off color or whatever
it is and it's like it's okay

2955
03:00:04,410 --> 03:00:07,650
man we're just the be clumsy be
awkward whatever. I don't know

2956
03:00:07,650 --> 03:00:10,740
maybe just maybe just me. I
thought that was just kind of

2957
03:00:10,740 --> 03:00:14,220
hit me. I guess you you don't
know. You don't have any

2958
03:00:14,220 --> 03:00:14,700
opinion.

2959
03:00:15,540 --> 03:00:19,800
John C. Dvorak: I I guess I have
no opinion. Maybe that maybe

2960
03:00:19,800 --> 03:00:21,960
you're right. I don't know. I've
never thought about it.

2961
03:00:21,990 --> 03:00:26,580
Adam Curry: Alright, here's the
list of meetups coming for to

2962
03:00:26,580 --> 03:00:29,370
see tomorrow we have the
Northeast Ohio meetup at six

2963
03:00:29,370 --> 03:00:36,570
o'clock at the winking lizard
never heard the wink. Actually

2964
03:00:36,570 --> 03:00:38,160
that will be a dame had real

2965
03:00:38,190 --> 03:00:42,000
Unknown: a real bar. Yes, the
ranking ranking lizard

2966
03:00:42,420 --> 03:00:45,720
Adam Curry: Dame Ashley Lady of
the Lake who will be there at

2967
03:00:45,720 --> 03:00:51,690
the at the winking lizard and
Earl Walkman and the keeper

2968
03:00:51,690 --> 03:00:55,560
penance and the keeper will be
there as well. The keeper of

2969
03:00:55,590 --> 03:00:59,070
Peninsula Ohio I presume Seattle
Washington also a meet up on

2970
03:00:59,070 --> 03:01:01,590
Friday. That'll be the lookout
Bar and Grill with Patrick

2971
03:01:01,590 --> 03:01:05,820
organizing Saturday and Sunday.
This is Road America IndyCar

2972
03:01:05,820 --> 03:01:11,400
doubleheader weekend. You want
to meet up at Elkhart Lake in

2973
03:01:11,400 --> 03:01:16,500
Wisconsin Todd squid Buzz is
organizing that for you. Also on

2974
03:01:16,500 --> 03:01:20,340
Saturday that New England summer
pool party 3pm in Pawtucket,

2975
03:01:20,340 --> 03:01:23,970
Rhode Island, where some of my
family hails from Lady butter

2976
03:01:23,970 --> 03:01:28,080
sir knives are nesto hosting
July 11. Saturday killed devils

2977
03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:31,140
Hills Outer Banks, North
Carolina blue crab tavern, we

2978
03:01:31,140 --> 03:01:34,170
heard it earlier Arthur Brewer
will be there along with Alex.

2979
03:01:34,530 --> 03:01:39,240
And then for next Sunday the
Anning Alexandria Virginia meet

2980
03:01:39,240 --> 03:01:43,680
up at Llinas oasis that is at
noon through William of the West

2981
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:48,720
pencil tucky arranging that and
also on Sunday mosta dome seven

2982
03:01:48,720 --> 03:01:52,680
o'clock Central European Summer
Time in Malta central Mark Malta

2983
03:01:52,680 --> 03:01:57,270
at law Tartine Cafe Stu is
organizing and he's looking for

2984
03:01:57,270 --> 03:02:01,260
people to join him. Then the
final two for next Friday, the

2985
03:02:01,260 --> 03:02:05,700
Friday after next in Montreal,
Quebec, six o'clock Pei citizen

2986
03:02:05,700 --> 03:02:10,020
organizing that and next
Saturday, Western New York local

2987
03:02:10,050 --> 03:02:16,740
808 at 2pm. And Sir Road, road,
Wolf road Wolf is hosting that

2988
03:02:16,770 --> 03:02:21,120
please go take a look at all of
these meetups. They're all at no

2989
03:02:21,120 --> 03:02:24,330
agenda meetups.com If you don't
find anything near you, or if

2990
03:02:24,330 --> 03:02:27,390
you'd like to set one up, that's
all you have to do. Go set one

2991
03:02:27,390 --> 03:02:30,360
up yourself no agenda
meetups.com.

2992
03:02:31,680 --> 03:02:34,650
Unknown: Sometimes you go hang
out with

2993
03:02:40,470 --> 03:02:52,470
Adam Curry: me. You want to say?
Like, I would like to ask you a

2994
03:02:52,470 --> 03:02:58,230
question. As you know, I never
listened to your clips when you

2995
03:02:58,230 --> 03:03:03,630
send them not. That's keeps it
all spontaneous. I could not

2996
03:03:03,630 --> 03:03:08,970
however, resist noticing that
you may have clipped the white

2997
03:03:08,970 --> 03:03:12,870
fragility sequence of the week
from the New York Board of

2998
03:03:12,870 --> 03:03:15,270
Education. Is that what I'm
seeing?

2999
03:03:15,750 --> 03:03:18,360
John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well,
yeah, there's a lot of in the

3000
03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:21,120
air. There's a lot of clips, I
would actually rather put them

3001
03:03:21,120 --> 03:03:25,410
off till Sunday. Okay, let's do
that. Tucker Carlson judges

3002
03:03:25,410 --> 03:03:27,090
Layne Maxwell stuff. Oh, you

3003
03:03:27,090 --> 03:03:27,930
Adam Curry: want to do that now?

3004
03:03:28,500 --> 03:03:30,420
John C. Dvorak: Well, I would
rather do that and

3005
03:03:30,870 --> 03:03:33,450
Adam Curry: okay, because it's
very good. And I'm glad because

3006
03:03:33,450 --> 03:03:36,690
I saw it like, okay, cuz I was
gonna clip it. And I saw them

3007
03:03:36,720 --> 03:03:37,080
hard to

3008
03:03:37,080 --> 03:03:39,510
John C. Dvorak: clip very hard.
So I see people yelling at each

3009
03:03:39,510 --> 03:03:44,430
other, but it's, but it's, I do
it does. It does. I have a lot

3010
03:03:44,430 --> 03:03:48,120
of thoughts on it. Because it
brings out Yes, and there's also

3011
03:03:48,150 --> 03:03:51,120
some new terminology coming out
and we're hearing it a lot and

3012
03:03:51,120 --> 03:03:52,980
it's all going to be in there
and I don't think it's better on

3013
03:03:52,980 --> 03:03:53,550
Sunday. Let's

3014
03:03:53,550 --> 03:03:57,030
Adam Curry: do one on Sunday.
That is a great tease. And that

3015
03:03:57,030 --> 03:03:57,150
way

3016
03:03:57,150 --> 03:03:59,190
John C. Dvorak: I can also move
Kalitta Sunday

3017
03:03:59,820 --> 03:04:06,750
Adam Curry: wow what a what a
Sunday show was Sunday. Clipping

3018
03:04:06,750 --> 03:04:07,140
that one

3019
03:04:08,820 --> 03:04:13,770
John C. Dvorak: so I do have a
Kellyanne Conway though with an

3020
03:04:13,770 --> 03:04:14,970
ice so that I taught my

3021
03:04:15,030 --> 03:04:17,310
Adam Curry: oh yeah, we can we
need Yeah, we need an ice so

3022
03:04:17,310 --> 03:04:19,170
let's hear it. Whoa. That's a

3023
03:04:19,170 --> 03:04:23,820
John C. Dvorak: k a. K AC. I got
it. You played it.

3024
03:04:23,850 --> 03:04:28,560
Adam Curry: Played it. Whoa. I
played it. Okay, AC yay.

3025
03:04:30,060 --> 03:04:32,910
John C. Dvorak: What this is,
this is what was in it.

3026
03:04:33,359 --> 03:04:37,799
Adam Curry: Here's K ac YAYIS
Oh, whoa.

3027
03:04:41,070 --> 03:04:44,280
John C. Dvorak: Holy moly. I use
that very rarely.

3028
03:04:45,360 --> 03:04:47,910
Adam Curry: Wonder what went
wrong. You throw away the actual

3029
03:04:48,120 --> 03:04:50,670
John C. Dvorak: lesson clipped?
I must have clicked the wrong

3030
03:04:50,670 --> 03:04:54,420
waveform because what it is
we're saying yay, and sunbird

3031
03:04:54,420 --> 03:04:58,050
kind of a wimpy voice. Not dad.
I don't even know where that

3032
03:04:58,050 --> 03:04:59,970
came from. It must have been
well, that's heard

3033
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:06,840
Adam Curry: It sounds like her
going whoa were You were you

3034
03:05:06,840 --> 03:05:09,720
drinking the Costco wine again
when during your clip in?

3035
03:05:11,639 --> 03:05:13,379
John C. Dvorak: I'm sorry.
That's what we've got today.

3036
03:05:13,379 --> 03:05:14,729
Yeah, that is it. Well, let me

3037
03:05:14,730 --> 03:05:19,470
Adam Curry: try and save you. I
have one clip left that I wanted

3038
03:05:19,470 --> 03:05:24,540
to play, which was not only
found today but it was the Flynn

3039
03:05:24,540 --> 03:05:31,830
family on July 4 2020. And the
Flynn fam General Flynn. Some

3040
03:05:31,830 --> 03:05:36,570
would say a great patriot,
General Flynn and his family

3041
03:05:37,500 --> 03:05:41,850
took the oath and recited it all
on camera, I shortened it up a

3042
03:05:41,850 --> 03:05:44,400
little bit, but what's most
important is what he says at the

3043
03:05:44,400 --> 03:05:45,330
end I

3044
03:05:46,770 --> 03:05:48,060
Unknown: do solemnly swear

3045
03:05:48,090 --> 03:05:49,320
do solemnly swear,

3046
03:05:49,500 --> 03:05:51,210
I will support and defend that I

3047
03:05:51,210 --> 03:05:51,960
will support the

3048
03:05:52,560 --> 03:05:54,240
Constitution of the United
States the

3049
03:05:54,240 --> 03:05:59,100
Constitution, all enemies,
foreign and domestic against all

3050
03:05:59,100 --> 03:06:00,870
enemies, foreign and domestic. I

3051
03:06:00,870 --> 03:06:04,830
will bear true faith and
allegiance to the same faith and

3052
03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:07,680
then I will well and faithfully

3053
03:06:07,800 --> 03:06:10,620
and then I will well and
faithfully discharge the duties

3054
03:06:12,090 --> 03:06:16,740
of the office on which I am
about to enter. About to enter

3055
03:06:16,740 --> 03:06:23,040
so help me God. So where we go
one we go. Bless America.

3056
03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:30,960
Adam Curry: Where we go one we
go all that SKU that's Q anon

3057
03:06:30,960 --> 03:06:31,680
slogan.

3058
03:06:33,570 --> 03:06:35,280
John C. Dvorak: Well, I went
away threw it in there.

3059
03:06:36,060 --> 03:06:39,750
Adam Curry: Well, that's a
almost a great question.

3060
03:06:40,230 --> 03:06:41,610
John C. Dvorak: Almost not
quite, not

3061
03:06:41,610 --> 03:06:45,450
Adam Curry: quite. But holy
crap. I thought that was pretty

3062
03:06:45,450 --> 03:06:48,810
interesting. That's, to me, it's
either the troll of the decade

3063
03:06:48,810 --> 03:06:50,670
or who wants a troll as a

3064
03:06:50,670 --> 03:06:52,770
John C. Dvorak: troll. That's
what he's doing. He's guys.

3065
03:06:52,950 --> 03:06:54,030
havin fun at least.

3066
03:06:54,090 --> 03:06:55,140
Adam Curry: Well, thank
goodness. So

3067
03:06:55,170 --> 03:06:57,630
John C. Dvorak: so just Lane
Maxwell, you know, is arrested

3068
03:06:57,630 --> 03:07:00,810
is was the surprise it was
apparently in that by the same

3069
03:07:00,810 --> 03:07:03,270
district where they fired the
previous staff.

3070
03:07:03,300 --> 03:07:05,520
Adam Curry: Yeah, they got that
guy out first so that he

3071
03:07:05,520 --> 03:07:08,610
couldn't kill her when they put
her in? Whatever they were going

3072
03:07:08,610 --> 03:07:11,430
to do. Yeah, because she was in
a safe house.

3073
03:07:11,670 --> 03:07:14,520
John C. Dvorak: And she was
surprised that she was arrested

3074
03:07:14,520 --> 03:07:19,170
in the first place. But, but,
but I have a setup, because the

3075
03:07:19,170 --> 03:07:23,010
setup is that apparently there's
not there's a really good report

3076
03:07:23,010 --> 03:07:26,070
on 60 minutes, and 60 minutes
doesn't have a lot of good

3077
03:07:26,070 --> 03:07:31,290
reports. Unless you watch 60
million minutes Australia. Ah,

3078
03:07:31,320 --> 03:07:36,210
yes. 60 minutes, Australia's
dynamite. And here's a little

3079
03:07:36,210 --> 03:07:40,020
report, which includes an
interview with Maria farmer who

3080
03:07:40,020 --> 03:07:44,250
was the first person that in
1996, reported everything to the

3081
03:07:44,250 --> 03:07:46,680
FBI, to no avail.

3082
03:07:46,920 --> 03:07:49,950
Unknown: Today, we announced
charges against Glenn Maxwell,

3083
03:07:50,310 --> 03:07:51,120
for helping

3084
03:07:51,150 --> 03:07:54,360
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Bronwyn.
Got it.

3085
03:07:54,390 --> 03:07:59,310
Unknown: Maria went to the FBI.
It was 1996. And she was the

3086
03:07:59,310 --> 03:08:03,690
very first victim to officially
report Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn

3087
03:08:03,690 --> 03:08:08,250
Maxwell to the authorities. But
in a pattern that will be set in

3088
03:08:08,250 --> 03:08:11,490
the decades ahead, her complaint
was ignored.

3089
03:08:11,760 --> 03:08:14,400
They just kept it all quiet put
in the bottom drawer. And

3090
03:08:14,400 --> 03:08:17,580
they're so dismissive, that I
just felt daunted and I stopped

3091
03:08:19,230 --> 03:08:23,730
that by going to police, Maria
felt the full force of Maxwell's

3092
03:08:23,730 --> 03:08:29,100
fury. Terrified Maria went into
hiding, and gave up her art

3093
03:08:29,100 --> 03:08:32,430
career. What sort of threats are
she made against you?

3094
03:08:32,970 --> 03:08:36,180
Originally, it started with
things like I'm going to burn

3095
03:08:36,180 --> 03:08:39,420
your arts, and then I'm going to
burn your career, and then I'm

3096
03:08:39,420 --> 03:08:42,570
going to burn you and the house
you live in. And then it was,

3097
03:08:42,750 --> 03:08:45,300
Oh, be careful crossing a
street. You know, you can get

3098
03:08:45,300 --> 03:08:47,820
shot in the back of the head.
They were threats against my

3099
03:08:47,820 --> 03:08:50,160
life. And I told the FBI this

3100
03:08:50,189 --> 03:08:55,679
do you reflect on how different
life would be for so many women

3101
03:08:55,679 --> 03:09:01,349
today? If the FBI had
investigated your complaints? In

3102
03:09:01,349 --> 03:09:03,179
1996? Yeah.

3103
03:09:04,530 --> 03:09:08,880
They Yeah. I think about it all
the time. I do. And it hurts a

3104
03:09:08,880 --> 03:09:11,130
lot. And I never had children
because of it.

3105
03:09:11,610 --> 03:09:16,560
Adam Curry: Because they didn't
feel like they would be safe. As

3106
03:09:16,560 --> 03:09:21,120
an aside, Maxwell is not charged
with sexual abuse. She's charged

3107
03:09:21,120 --> 03:09:24,900
with trafficking, which makes it
even more suspicious.

3108
03:09:25,680 --> 03:09:27,630
John C. Dvorak: It was whole
thing is suspicious, but let's

3109
03:09:27,630 --> 03:09:30,420
listen to talk Tucker Carlson,
which I don't like clipping and

3110
03:09:30,420 --> 03:09:33,840
you know, we don't necessarily
clip them. But I have to say,

3111
03:09:34,260 --> 03:09:37,500
Tucker Carlson decided to take a
score because he doesn't have

3112
03:09:37,500 --> 03:09:39,240
any sponsors and he doesn't
care.

3113
03:09:39,270 --> 03:09:43,260
Adam Curry: Hey, don't talk like
that about my pillow.com.

3114
03:09:44,820 --> 03:09:49,860
John C. Dvorak: So so he has a
scorched earth policy and see if

3115
03:09:49,860 --> 03:09:53,520
you can find one of his targets
here. As he goes on. This is the

3116
03:09:53,520 --> 03:09:58,650
first clip and this is Kim going
on about just Ghislaine Maxwell

3117
03:09:58,650 --> 03:10:02,700
and what's happening in Then he
just goes after people. Today we

3118
03:10:02,700 --> 03:10:05,730
Unknown: announced charges
against Glenn Maxwell, for

3119
03:10:05,730 --> 03:10:12,240
helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually
exploit and abuse multiple minor

3120
03:10:12,270 --> 03:10:18,960
girls from the period of 1994
through 1997. In some cases

3121
03:10:18,960 --> 03:10:24,060
maxvill participated in the
abuse herself. Maxwell enticed

3122
03:10:24,060 --> 03:10:28,500
minor girls, got them to trust
her, then delivered them into

3123
03:10:28,500 --> 03:10:31,440
the trap that she and Epstein
had set.

3124
03:10:32,850 --> 03:10:36,240
Maxwell has been all over the
world recently, according to

3125
03:10:36,240 --> 03:10:39,390
news reports, but authorities
arrested her and an isolated

3126
03:10:39,390 --> 03:10:43,290
home in central New Hampshire.
Why, what was she doing there?

3127
03:10:43,650 --> 03:10:46,260
What we know tonight is the
maxvill bought the house and the

3128
03:10:46,260 --> 03:10:49,470
156 acres that sits on last
December, she bought it

3129
03:10:49,470 --> 03:10:52,950
anonymously for a million
dollars in cash. Maybe now that

3130
03:10:52,950 --> 03:10:57,210
she's under arrest. Maybe she's
on suicide watch tonight, we'll

3131
03:10:57,210 --> 03:11:01,110
learn more about what she did
for Jeffrey Epstein. And what

3132
03:11:01,110 --> 03:11:03,600
Jeffrey Epstein did where did
the money come from? And why

3133
03:11:03,600 --> 03:11:06,270
were so many famous people
always in the room. For example,

3134
03:11:06,420 --> 03:11:09,720
the founder of LinkedIn, Reid,
Hoffman was a close friend of

3135
03:11:09,720 --> 03:11:14,670
Jeffrey. Now he's a top donor to
Joe Biden's quite a moralizer.

3136
03:11:14,670 --> 03:11:18,990
To how much did Reed Hoffman
know about what Jeffrey Epstein

3137
03:11:18,990 --> 03:11:22,650
was doing? Will the FBI be
questioning him? If not, why

3138
03:11:22,650 --> 03:11:26,250
not? And what about the founder
of Microsoft Bill Gates Gates

3139
03:11:26,250 --> 03:11:29,730
made at least three visits to
Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse. He

3140
03:11:29,730 --> 03:11:33,660
called Epstein and his life
quote, intriguing in an email

3141
03:11:33,930 --> 03:11:37,890
that's intriguing. On its own,
we learn more. And what about

3142
03:11:37,890 --> 03:11:41,160
former Harvard president and
Obama administration official,

3143
03:11:41,520 --> 03:11:44,010
Larry Summers, former Secretary
of the Treasury under Bill

3144
03:11:44,010 --> 03:11:46,920
Clinton, summers flew on
Epstein's plane and then got him

3145
03:11:46,920 --> 03:11:50,250
to donate 10s of billions of
dollars to Harvard University

3146
03:11:50,370 --> 03:11:53,160
where Epstein did not go. And
needless to say, there was Bill

3147
03:11:53,160 --> 03:11:56,820
Clinton himself who often flew
on Epstein's plane and then lied

3148
03:11:56,820 --> 03:12:00,480
about it. We deserve in fact, we
have a right to know what all of

3149
03:12:00,480 --> 03:12:04,980
these people really knew about
Jeffrey Epstein. many mysteries

3150
03:12:05,010 --> 03:12:05,820
yet to solve.

3151
03:12:07,110 --> 03:12:10,410
Adam Curry: Wow. What is going
on? Is he in the basement with

3152
03:12:10,410 --> 03:12:13,230
his air conditioner on or what's
going on? That's really

3153
03:12:13,230 --> 03:12:14,760
annoying, but not professionally

3154
03:12:14,760 --> 03:12:17,160
John C. Dvorak: was he's going
on and so now he brings that

3155
03:12:17,160 --> 03:12:20,430
fortunately, he does a lot of
scorched earth there say the

3156
03:12:21,540 --> 03:12:22,440
very

3157
03:12:22,470 --> 03:12:26,280
Adam Curry: that's podcast level
scorched earth, a very podcast,

3158
03:12:26,280 --> 03:12:30,840
John C. Dvorak: the I agree. And
pod brings it on. He brings an

3159
03:12:30,840 --> 03:12:33,900
author on who's wrote a book or
something about the death of

3160
03:12:33,900 --> 03:12:37,380
Epstein. And she's just blows it
he asked her a lot of leading

3161
03:12:37,380 --> 03:12:40,680
questions where she could just
open up with speculation, which

3162
03:12:40,680 --> 03:12:43,200
is what you want to do if anyone
wants to do the gets to do these

3163
03:12:43,200 --> 03:12:48,840
shows. Your your opportunity for
speculation is off the charts.

3164
03:12:48,840 --> 03:12:51,480
You can say whatever you want,
because you're kind of an

3165
03:12:51,480 --> 03:12:55,080
expert. And you can go nuts, you
can have a lot of fun, but she

3166
03:12:55,080 --> 03:12:58,980
backs off and she says nothing
never answers his first question

3167
03:12:58,980 --> 03:13:03,390
about why was she in New
Hampshire, which would have led

3168
03:13:03,390 --> 03:13:07,560
me to release 10 possibilities.
She says nothing. And

3169
03:13:07,560 --> 03:13:10,800
unfortunately, it kills the
segment, but we should listen to

3170
03:13:10,800 --> 03:13:12,450
it so you can see what not to do

3171
03:13:12,480 --> 03:13:15,330
Unknown: when a good man has
come closer than most to getting

3172
03:13:15,330 --> 03:13:18,180
to the core of it. She's co
authored the book of death, the

3173
03:13:18,180 --> 03:13:20,940
mysterious demise of Jeffrey
Epstein. And she joins us so

3174
03:13:20,940 --> 03:13:24,930
thanks so much for coming on. So
first things first. Why do you

3175
03:13:24,930 --> 03:13:29,820
think Maxwell was in New
Hampshire this morning? Well,

3176
03:13:30,600 --> 03:13:32,820
I just want to say Tucker, I
think that prison is going to be

3177
03:13:32,820 --> 03:13:37,740
a pretty big adjustment for
Glenn Maxwell. Glenn was born

3178
03:13:37,740 --> 03:13:40,800
into French high society. She
was the daughter of a

3179
03:13:40,800 --> 03:13:46,500
billionaire. She's lived this
just very extravagant lifestyle

3180
03:13:46,980 --> 03:13:51,780
throughout her life. And as you
mentioned, I mean, even when she

3181
03:13:51,780 --> 03:13:55,800
was in hiding at this hideout,
she's she's living in a $1

3182
03:13:55,800 --> 03:14:02,430
million custom Tudor Mansion a
state on like on 150 acres in

3183
03:14:02,430 --> 03:14:06,390
New Hampshire. So you know, not
a bad way to be hiding out, I

3184
03:14:06,390 --> 03:14:10,560
guess or to be social distancing
right now. So I think that this

3185
03:14:10,560 --> 03:14:14,010
is going to be a pretty big
adjustment. When when it's

3186
03:14:14,010 --> 03:14:14,280
pretty

3187
03:14:14,430 --> 03:14:17,280
weird, though. I mean, so the
Daily Mail just had her in

3188
03:14:17,280 --> 03:14:19,920
Israel not that long ago. We
know that she's I think she has

3189
03:14:19,920 --> 03:14:22,830
a French passport. But she
certainly spent a lot of time in

3190
03:14:22,830 --> 03:14:26,910
the UK. Her father was English,
Robert Maxwell. She had to have

3191
03:14:26,910 --> 03:14:30,930
known that American authorities
were after her. Do you have any

3192
03:14:30,930 --> 03:14:33,240
sense of why she would be in
this country right now?

3193
03:14:33,570 --> 03:14:36,480
It's very, it's very bizarre. I
mean, people were shocked to

3194
03:14:36,480 --> 03:14:39,090
hear that there were rumors of
all different places that she

3195
03:14:39,090 --> 03:14:43,830
was supposedly at. I mean, some
people that claims maybe Paris,

3196
03:14:43,830 --> 03:14:46,470
I mean, people had spotted her
in Paris. There were claims

3197
03:14:46,500 --> 03:14:50,370
about London, there were claims
in about like the Israeli

3198
03:14:50,370 --> 03:14:54,060
embassy, and things like that.
So yeah, there's been some

3199
03:14:54,090 --> 03:14:57,510
pretty wild speculation, but I
think generally the idea was

3200
03:14:57,630 --> 03:15:00,570
people assumed she was out of
the country. I mean, was born

3201
03:15:00,570 --> 03:15:04,530
she was born in France. So she
was able to, you know, France

3202
03:15:04,560 --> 03:15:08,490
would not have necessarily
extradited her, she would not

3203
03:15:08,490 --> 03:15:12,750
have been able to be extradited
necessarily from France. So it

3204
03:15:12,750 --> 03:15:14,610
was very surprising.

3205
03:15:16,049 --> 03:15:19,049
Adam Curry: I have a speculation
about what is going to happen.

3206
03:15:20,580 --> 03:15:22,770
John C. Dvorak: And for your
speculation, I do want to say

3207
03:15:22,770 --> 03:15:25,740
that I still think the reasons
she was in New Hampshire and

3208
03:15:25,740 --> 03:15:29,250
that I would have said this, she
felt safe because she was told

3209
03:15:29,250 --> 03:15:31,710
that nothing's going to happen
to her. But now Okay, now go.

3210
03:15:31,740 --> 03:15:33,480
Adam Curry: Alright, so I
thought it was a safe house,

3211
03:15:33,480 --> 03:15:39,210
which is kind of the same thing.
Yeah. Maybe Megan and Harry,

3212
03:15:39,960 --> 03:15:44,730
rejected from the royal family.
Prince Andrew's head is on the

3213
03:15:44,730 --> 03:15:51,600
chopping block. This is, I
believe, the President or

3214
03:15:51,600 --> 03:15:56,310
someone in the administration is
behind this. The result? And

3215
03:15:56,310 --> 03:15:59,670
this is going to be sound weird.
The result of what will happen

3216
03:15:59,730 --> 03:16:03,480
of investigation and Prince
Andrew and all kinds of weird

3217
03:16:03,480 --> 03:16:08,250
noise and swirling will be the
truth about the death of Diana.

3218
03:16:08,430 --> 03:16:12,870
And that may be to cover up that
may be to I'm not sure exactly.

3219
03:16:12,870 --> 03:16:16,320
Or maybe to throw Andrew under
the bus for some reason. I'm not

3220
03:16:16,320 --> 03:16:20,130
sure why. But there's something
about it is, is bubbling under

3221
03:16:20,880 --> 03:16:25,080
this something is buttoned as
the royal family. And that's

3222
03:16:25,080 --> 03:16:28,380
what it's going to come down to.
And then we can connect all the

3223
03:16:28,380 --> 03:16:31,860
other. I mean, if if people
really knew the truth about Lady

3224
03:16:31,860 --> 03:16:35,970
Diana's death, man, there'll be
no credibility for any news

3225
03:16:35,970 --> 03:16:39,330
anywhere ever again, or the
royal family or the elites in

3226
03:16:39,330 --> 03:16:46,350
general. Do a Theramin. But
maybe we should just leave it

3227
03:16:46,350 --> 03:16:46,710
for what it

3228
03:16:46,710 --> 03:16:50,280
John C. Dvorak: is now to take a
step I'm unworthy. But I would

3229
03:16:50,280 --> 03:16:55,410
say this interesting. comment
about the news media and Diana's

3230
03:16:56,010 --> 03:17:03,090
death. Yeah, because MSNBC rose
from that call. You're right. I

3231
03:17:03,090 --> 03:17:07,320
used to work at MSNBC. Yeah. And
as soon as Diana died, they

3232
03:17:07,320 --> 03:17:11,040
killed off canceled every show
and they just had coverage. 24/7

3233
03:17:11,070 --> 03:17:13,560
Right. And that's when they
switched over to the to the

3234
03:17:13,560 --> 03:17:17,940
model that they currently use.
All because of Diana's death.

3235
03:17:18,179 --> 03:17:21,719
Adam Curry: Well, for sure.
We'll have our eye on that ball.

3236
03:17:22,079 --> 03:17:26,429
And we will have somebody who
also will that was a great clip

3237
03:17:26,429 --> 03:17:30,149
to lead into one of our end of
show mixes, which will be

3238
03:17:30,449 --> 03:17:34,349
featuring prints and dude.
Producer Dennis did that one.

3239
03:17:34,619 --> 03:17:37,889
Also have sir Spencer, The Wolf
of Kansas City with an end of

3240
03:17:37,889 --> 03:17:41,519
show mix. And Nick the rat
coming up next on no agenda

3241
03:17:41,519 --> 03:17:46,259
stream.com. We, of course, would
like you to join us here for the

3242
03:17:46,259 --> 03:17:52,439
second Thursday of the week on
Sunday. And in the meantime,

3243
03:17:52,469 --> 03:17:56,429
coming to you from opportunity
zones 33 here in the capital of

3244
03:17:56,429 --> 03:17:59,729
the drone Star State Austin,
Texas, which if you're looking

3245
03:17:59,729 --> 03:18:04,139
for it is FEMA Region number six
on all governmental maps. In the

3246
03:18:04,139 --> 03:18:06,179
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

3247
03:18:06,480 --> 03:18:08,310
John C. Dvorak: and from
Northern Silicon Valley where I

3248
03:18:08,310 --> 03:18:12,270
can see the freeway and there's
nothing but trucks filled with

3249
03:18:12,270 --> 03:18:16,320
Chinese goods pouring in. Still,
I'm John C. Dvorak,

3250
03:18:16,350 --> 03:18:18,240
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday.
Remember us at the

3251
03:18:18,240 --> 03:18:24,060
vortech.org/na Thank you troll
room until Sunday, adios mofos.

3252
03:18:42,090 --> 03:18:44,040
Unknown: So you're absolutely
sure that you're at home on the

3253
03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:48,510
10th of March. She was very
specific about that night, she

3254
03:18:48,510 --> 03:18:53,670
described dancing with you and
you profusely sweating. And that

3255
03:18:53,670 --> 03:18:56,760
she went on to have been
possibly a

3256
03:18:56,790 --> 03:19:04,050
slight problem was was was was
was distressing. Because I have

3257
03:19:04,050 --> 03:19:08,880
a peculiar medical condition
which is that I don't sweat or I

3258
03:19:08,880 --> 03:19:13,890
didn't sweat at the time. And
that was wishing I didn't sweat

3259
03:19:13,890 --> 03:19:18,930
at the time because I had
suffered what I would describe

3260
03:19:18,930 --> 03:19:27,060
as an overdose of adrenaline
shot and I said that is almost

3261
03:19:27,060 --> 03:19:31,410
impossible for me. And it's only
because I have done a number of

3262
03:19:31,410 --> 03:19:35,580
things in the recent past that
I'm starting to be able to.

3263
03:19:45,390 --> 03:19:46,020
Speed

3264
03:19:58,200 --> 03:20:09,900
I was reading all of them like
sweat sweat sweat don't sweat

3265
03:20:17,730 --> 03:20:21,030
I was sweating all like a sweat
was raining

3266
03:20:22,650 --> 03:20:33,510
sweat Don't sweat it don't sweat
very tiny.

3267
03:20:34,290 --> 03:20:38,310
That's wrong. Cascading had a
stroke catastrophic

3268
03:20:39,030 --> 03:20:45,150
consequences. Are you kidding?
Cascading catastrophic

3269
03:20:45,900 --> 03:20:46,770
consequences

3270
03:20:50,910 --> 03:20:57,330
Adam Curry: catastrophic
consequences cascading

3271
03:20:57,720 --> 03:21:06,420
catastrophic consequences
catastrophic catastrophic

3272
03:21:11,430 --> 03:21:13,290
catastrophic catastrophic

3273
03:21:13,290 --> 03:21:13,980
Unknown: consequences

3274
03:21:20,940 --> 03:21:22,920
Adam Curry: consequences I like

3275
03:21:25,200 --> 03:21:28,410
Unknown: catastrophic
consequences

3276
03:21:28,530 --> 03:21:29,970
Adam Curry: consequences,

3277
03:21:30,810 --> 03:21:35,220
Unknown: cascading catastrophic
catastrophic consequences

3278
03:21:38,040 --> 03:21:38,850
cascading

3279
03:21:40,620 --> 03:21:42,030
Adam Curry: consequences,

3280
03:21:42,720 --> 03:21:46,650
Unknown: consequences, cascading
catastrophic consequences,

3281
03:21:47,400 --> 03:21:52,620
cascading catastrophic
consequences catastrophic

3282
03:21:52,620 --> 03:21:56,880
consequences cascading
catastrophic consequences

3283
03:22:03,000 --> 03:22:09,450
Adam Curry: was catastrophic
consequences

3284
03:22:09,689 --> 03:22:10,589
Unknown: catastrophic

3285
03:22:14,790 --> 03:22:16,080
Adam Curry: consequences

3286
03:22:23,310 --> 03:22:24,330
are you kidding

3287
03:22:34,050 --> 03:22:38,220
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