1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,320 John C. Dvorak: There's hope for Joe. 2 00:00:01,620 --> 00:00:03,660 Announcer: Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:03,930 --> 00:00:06,690 Adam Curry: Thursday October 1 2020. This is your award winning 4 00:00:06,690 --> 00:00:12,270 give on AC media assassination episode 1282. This is no agenda 5 00:00:13,020 --> 00:00:18,210 celebrating, broadcasting live from opportunity's own 33 Here 6 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:21,300 in the frontier of Austin, Texas capital of the drone Star State. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,490 Morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 8 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:25,980 John C. Dvorak: and I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where 9 00:00:25,980 --> 00:00:30,120 I'm freshly back from listening to the Trump Wallace debates I'm 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,960 John C. Dvorak 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Announcer: It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. 12 00:00:34,830 --> 00:00:40,200 Adam Curry: The Trump Wallace debates. Do tell, do tell. I 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,110 don't know. It's it's a piece of history. I didn't really 14 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:43,710 witness. 15 00:00:44,490 --> 00:00:47,520 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, that was Trump and Chris Wallace. Oh, 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:47,910 Chris 17 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:49,710 Adam Curry: Wallace. Yes, yes. Well, 18 00:00:49,710 --> 00:00:51,060 John C. Dvorak: let's do what were you thinking? 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,810 Adam Curry: Oh, let's do a quick 13 Second around the horn. Let's 20 00:00:54,810 --> 00:00:57,240 see what the mainstream media thought of it. That was a shit 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,500 show. The American people lost tonight, because that was 22 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:02,370 horrific. 23 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:05,370 Unknown: Use high minded language. I'm just gonna say it 24 00:01:05,370 --> 00:01:07,050 like it is. That was a shit show. 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,960 That was a hot mess. Inside a dumpster fire inside a train 26 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:15,300 wreck, as that was horrific. 27 00:01:15,870 --> 00:01:19,230 Adam Curry: Oh, yes, everybody. It was horrific. It was the 28 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:22,350 worst ever. What should we do? Oh, the humanity. 29 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:27,840 John C. Dvorak: Well, this is a prelude to what they really want 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,650 to do. And I have 31 00:01:29,250 --> 00:01:31,590 Adam Curry: I know exactly. We've probably had the same 32 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:34,080 clip, which is about the microphones. I'll bet. 33 00:01:35,370 --> 00:01:36,900 John C. Dvorak: No, I don't have that clip. I don't know what 34 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:37,290 you're talking. 35 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:41,250 Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Let me grab this for 36 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:47,220 you. So this was such a disgrace. We have to change 37 00:01:47,220 --> 00:01:50,670 something and you know, these debates are arranged by the to 38 00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:53,970 the national debate committee or some you know, some 39 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:58,890 organization, some organization that the women the Women's 40 00:01:58,890 --> 00:02:01,620 League or voters didn't want to have to really go ladies and 41 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:05,100 John C. Dvorak: gentlemen my 678 even 42 00:02:05,310 --> 00:02:08,280 Adam Curry: eight even on this Jeffer this is your official 43 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:11,640 Zephyr economic report everybody we have eight cars the economy 44 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:23,040 is stable ending soon. Bitcoin 10,856. Oh my god. Well, here's 45 00:02:23,070 --> 00:02:26,160 here's the prelude to what I caught which came in this 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,420 morning. Good evening, 47 00:02:27,420 --> 00:02:29,340 Unknown: and thank you for joining us. Tonight with 48 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:31,560 breaking news. CBS News says during the Commission on 49 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,530 Presidential Debates plans to issue new rules for the rest of 50 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:37,920 this year's debates. After Tuesday night's faceoff between 51 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,620 President Trump and former Vice President Biden turned into a 52 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:44,250 farce. While the commission has not formally voted on changes 53 00:02:44,250 --> 00:02:47,760 and informed source tells CBS News believe they need to act in 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,060 the coming days after being inundated with complaints about 55 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:54,240 a chaotic debate. Among the possible changes to the rules 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,000 cutting off a candidate's microphone. If that person 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,880 ignores that rules and interrupts another candidate for 58 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:00,480 the moderator. 59 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:03,870 Adam Curry: Oh my How will they decide who's going to turn off 60 00:03:03,870 --> 00:03:04,710 which mic? 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,810 Unknown: Let's get more now on those strict new rules the 62 00:03:06,810 --> 00:03:09,000 Debate Commission is considering issuing in the coming days 63 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,820 including cutting off a candidate's microphone. CBS is 64 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:14,340 Chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett joins us now in 65 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:17,100 major many are do mandate this dramatic rule change. 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,870 The Commission can do it nor it is empowered to set the rules 67 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:24,240 for the debates and they do that in collaboration with the 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,520 campaigns and they did that for the first debate. But those 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,680 rules were quite obviously flouted. That gives the 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,440 commission more leverage. Here's another technical point of 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,990 leverage. The Commission controls the audio feed the 72 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:37,080 network's handle the TV part so in these negotiations with the 73 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,020 campaign's they can say if you don't do what we want, we can 74 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:42,570 cut your sound off that is on the table whatever the 75 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:45,270 Commission decides nor helps to inform the country in the coming 76 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:45,690 days. 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,090 Adam Curry: Like here's what I'd like to understand about this 78 00:03:48,090 --> 00:03:52,800 genius idea this Shut up slave idea because God forbid we have 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,150 a debate or discussion open discussion when you have this 80 00:03:57,150 --> 00:04:04,350 setting in an auditorium with pretty much no 170 People are 81 00:04:04,350 --> 00:04:07,470 going to turn off the amplification in the room so 82 00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:10,500 that you don't hear it there as well. How will a candidate know 83 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:13,650 if he's if his microphone is turned off? How you how will you 84 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:14,040 know? 85 00:04:15,570 --> 00:04:17,460 John C. Dvorak: There probably be a red light or something. 86 00:04:17,579 --> 00:04:22,019 Adam Curry: I this is a dumb idea. They should put them in a 87 00:04:22,019 --> 00:04:27,269 glass cage. And when they need to shut up. It's close the door. 88 00:04:28,289 --> 00:04:29,819 Right away. soundproof booth 89 00:04:29,820 --> 00:04:34,140 John C. Dvorak: actually, actually, your idea is not too 90 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,900 far from being a decent one. That's just the way I would do 91 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:41,820 it. Okay, there are these glass panels you can get that you have 92 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:44,520 electrical, they have electrical capabilities. You push the 93 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,680 button and they go opaque. You put both candidates in these 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,280 glass cages. No and then when one of them is talking the other 95 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,950 one poof it goes opaque and you can't even see the guy. 96 00:04:55,980 --> 00:04:58,740 Adam Curry: No, no, we're both way off. How stupid aren't we 97 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:02,400 there's only one solution. Yes, shock collar. 98 00:05:05,220 --> 00:05:09,840 John C. Dvorak: Alright. So that. So we had to look at this 99 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,230 because I knew that this wasn't a great debate, but it wasn't 100 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:15,750 the worst thing in the world I've ever seen. And I think 101 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:18,450 these guys were exaggerating, but what are they after? They 102 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:21,180 didn't like Biden's performance because Biden was brain at the 103 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:23,850 same old points over and over again. So what you end up with, 104 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,910 suddenly you start to hear it when you hear I have two sub 105 00:05:26,910 --> 00:05:30,300 clips, very short versions of what we're longer clips. With 106 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:35,610 Judy, Judy Woodruff on on the PBS NewsHour, and listen as you 107 00:05:35,610 --> 00:05:38,520 get to different guests, and she asked guests number one this 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,880 question. This is Judy spelled je y d y for some reason, 109 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,640 wanting debates to end one. 110 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:47,849 Unknown: So chance should the debates continue. I mean, is 111 00:05:47,849 --> 00:05:52,169 there more the American people can learn from these debates? 112 00:05:52,169 --> 00:05:55,679 That commission is saying today, it's going to change the rules 113 00:05:55,679 --> 00:05:58,349 in some way? What do you think? 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,700 John C. Dvorak: So this guy goes on with? Well, I don't know, I 115 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:05,160 think it's fine. But you know, they can change some rules. And 116 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,200 we'll see what happened. So she didn't get the answer she 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,690 wanted. So she goes to guess number two, 118 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:12,630 Unknown: through these debates. I mean, for the American people, 119 00:06:12,630 --> 00:06:14,250 should there be more debates, 120 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:16,650 when there is more to be learned? 121 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:19,890 Adam Curry: Ah, yes. We really don't want to debate that we 122 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:23,130 want to stop the debates. That's what it's all about. Okay. 123 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,050 John C. Dvorak: And that's what they're after. And these are 124 00:06:25,050 --> 00:06:28,110 talking points Judy's right in on him and she's pushing. Um, 125 00:06:28,110 --> 00:06:32,340 she's, she's, she's getting very old. And so she's, she's a 126 00:06:32,340 --> 00:06:37,470 little she can't, she can't be subtle anymore. So she's very 127 00:06:37,740 --> 00:06:41,130 aggressive about this. And she, in many ways, most of the 128 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:43,710 conversations you have with these two guys, one was in 129 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:46,230 Washington Post, obviously, and the other one, because it's 130 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:48,690 always the Washington Post, and the other ones from the Los 131 00:06:48,690 --> 00:06:51,930 Angeles Times. And she was beating around the bush and 132 00:06:51,930 --> 00:06:54,930 beating around the bush and she wants, she knows she got 133 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,460 marching orders to let's, let's end these debates. Because we 134 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:01,560 don't want any more. We don't want Biden out there. Again, 135 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,270 he's either juiced or he's got some issues. He's he was not 136 00:07:06,270 --> 00:07:10,920 performing up to par. And do you know, it's just, I thought that 137 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:14,100 Trump did the worst job he could have possibly done, especially 138 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,010 when compared to his Hillary debates, which it always looked 139 00:07:17,010 --> 00:07:22,260 like Hillary won. And he did. But in this case, he was I think 140 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:25,170 he must have been, he must have been doing this, unless he's 141 00:07:25,170 --> 00:07:29,370 losing a step, which I believe is possible. Because in the if 142 00:07:29,370 --> 00:07:31,440 you remember the Hillary debates, he would use this, 143 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:34,110 you'd use this trick where she be yakking about something like 144 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:37,500 Biden did. And instead of jumping in and arguing whether 145 00:07:37,650 --> 00:07:42,060 he would just go right up to the mic and go wrong, yeah, well, 146 00:07:42,090 --> 00:07:42,870 wrong. 147 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:48,570 Adam Curry: So the problem with this, in my mind, and I think we 148 00:07:48,570 --> 00:07:51,900 should just look at it, it was a bad television show. This was 149 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:55,560 the biggest problem, it wasn't so much about it, forget about 150 00:07:55,590 --> 00:08:00,210 what was said. People at home just did not have a nice viewing 151 00:08:00,210 --> 00:08:03,000 experience. And that is because there was lots of stuff that was 152 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,060 said, if you break it down, I've watched it now three times, if 153 00:08:06,060 --> 00:08:09,330 you really break it down. There were some interesting things 154 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:12,000 that were said there were some truths that were told some 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,600 things that were debatable, but it was just not a good 156 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,250 television show. And in two things about that the format is 157 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:24,420 wrong. This is this is not a modern format for a quote 158 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:27,600 unquote, modern presidency. This is just not how it works 159 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,950 anymore. You if you say you're going to have two minutes to 160 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:34,890 yourself uninterrupted. And by the way, it was Biden who 161 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:38,070 started interrupting during Trump's first first two minutes, 162 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,940 okay, neither here nor there. And then it's open discussion. 163 00:08:42,570 --> 00:08:46,050 In my mind, open discussion does not mean when you're 164 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:49,980 interrupting the other person and you're debating, you're 165 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:54,780 you're discussing, it's a heated debate. It's not the moderators 166 00:08:54,780 --> 00:08:58,590 job to say, oh, no, stop interrupting him. No. If you and 167 00:08:58,590 --> 00:09:02,880 I have an argument, and we've had some what happens we'll yell 168 00:09:02,910 --> 00:09:08,310 back and forth, or I'll yell, you'll go. And within 30 seconds 169 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:14,880 or a minute, yes. I'm yelling, you're going to IRA. And, but 170 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,750 then eventually one of us says, Okay, I'm listening. What do you 171 00:09:18,750 --> 00:09:22,860 have to say? I mean, that was not possible because the 172 00:09:22,860 --> 00:09:26,940 moderator was horrible. And the moderator asked questions that I 173 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:30,660 timed it, but almost two minutes to Biden themselves. Sometimes. 174 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:35,550 None of this format is done. Did Fox produces or is it I guess 175 00:09:35,550 --> 00:09:39,150 it's it's No, I guess it's Commission. The Commission 176 00:09:39,150 --> 00:09:43,320 produces it shitty. Nothing to do. It's staged. The whole thing 177 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,960 was shit stage I'm sorry, in the flags. Where's the damn flags? 178 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,870 But there was something very interesting about the venue, 179 00:09:53,370 --> 00:09:56,370 which was what was the name of that? The name of that 180 00:09:56,370 --> 00:10:05,010 auditorium? for a second. I thought I had it here. It was 181 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,730 oh, here it is. Check this out. This is kind of the funniest 182 00:10:08,730 --> 00:10:10,230 part of the whole setup. 183 00:10:10,709 --> 00:10:14,249 Unknown: On behalf of Cleveland Clinic, it is my pleasure to 184 00:10:14,249 --> 00:10:19,169 welcome you to the city of Cleveland. Tonight, you join us 185 00:10:19,199 --> 00:10:22,859 in the beautiful Samsung pavilion of the Health Education 186 00:10:22,859 --> 00:10:26,879 Campus at Cleveland Clinic. We shared this campus with our 187 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:31,229 partners from Case Western Reserve University. This 188 00:10:31,229 --> 00:10:36,749 building is very special to us. It was opened just a year ago as 189 00:10:36,749 --> 00:10:41,129 a place for students medical, nursing and dental to begin 190 00:10:41,129 --> 00:10:45,839 their professional journeys. By learning together as teams. At 191 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:49,859 that time, as we were opening this campus, none of us could 192 00:10:49,859 --> 00:10:53,909 have managed to imagined that we would soon face a worldwide 193 00:10:53,909 --> 00:11:00,089 pandemic. When he happened. We converted this building into a 194 00:11:00,089 --> 00:11:02,369 COVID 19 Search hospital. 195 00:11:04,380 --> 00:11:07,650 Adam Curry: It was known as hope hospital. The whole irony of it 196 00:11:07,650 --> 00:11:11,550 is there's so little COVID that they converted their emergency 197 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:13,620 hospital into a debate stage. 198 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,060 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Funny and that's dumb guy for a Dutch guy. 199 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:23,940 Where does this fries running things? Oh, no. God, 200 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Adam Curry: I have from Jesse Coyne Nelson, a summary of the 201 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,120 entire debate and 35 seconds, which I think will be worth it 202 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,490 for some people who didn't want to watch it or just missed it or 203 00:11:35,490 --> 00:11:49,530 whatever. It's it kind of sums it all up and we can churches 204 00:11:49,530 --> 00:11:51,720 Unknown: for one second? I'm not gonna answer the question. 205 00:11:52,830 --> 00:12:04,380 The question, the question is justice. Will you do you get the 206 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:04,770 idea? 207 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,650 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I have something similar. Now, the 208 00:12:12,180 --> 00:12:15,210 Biden The other thing I think it's free to Democrats. That is 209 00:12:15,210 --> 00:12:17,520 that it was talking about civility, civility, civility, 210 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:23,340 Trump never insulted Biden. He didn't call them sleepy Joe. He 211 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:27,390 didn't call them low energy read and call him a dummy. No, they 212 00:12:27,390 --> 00:12:28,260 all the things the only 213 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:31,950 Adam Curry: thing he did was he called them out and said hohoho 214 00:12:32,010 --> 00:12:34,830 don't try to be Don't say you're smart around me. Oh, 215 00:12:34,859 --> 00:12:36,839 John C. Dvorak: I have this smart Yeah, no, this is right. 216 00:12:37,049 --> 00:12:39,959 This but this really wasn't quite the same as now. It's just 217 00:12:39,959 --> 00:12:44,789 not as calling you know, Trump a clown? Yeah. And I think that 218 00:12:44,789 --> 00:12:48,629 upset the Democrats because they they're going on this civility 219 00:12:48,929 --> 00:12:51,749 theme. Oh, civility, civility, civility. This is the most 220 00:12:51,749 --> 00:12:54,989 uncivil guy and you got Biden calling me a clown telling him 221 00:12:54,989 --> 00:12:59,669 to shut up as the President of the United States. It was you 222 00:12:59,669 --> 00:13:01,769 know the gotta kill it. They're gonna you're gonna watch a 223 00:13:01,769 --> 00:13:05,399 concerted effort to kill buying going in now. The guy from the 224 00:13:05,429 --> 00:13:06,479 Los Angeles Times. 225 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:09,240 Adam Curry: What do you mean to kill Biden going? What are you 226 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:09,930 talking about to 227 00:13:09,930 --> 00:13:10,860 John C. Dvorak: kill the debates? 228 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:14,130 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. You said to kill Biden, like what? Oh, I 229 00:13:14,190 --> 00:13:16,230 John C. Dvorak: just didn't mean that right? Take every kill 230 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:20,460 debase. Anyway, the point is, is that they're not going to be 231 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:22,950 able to according to the guy from the LA Times to talk to 232 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:25,680 Kamala Harris, who said Biden loves these debates. 233 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:31,650 Adam Curry: Joe is gonna pull the the candidate card, hey, I'm 234 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:34,590 in charge you I run everything. I'm gonna tell you what we're 235 00:13:34,590 --> 00:13:38,880 gonna do. The items, it's not just Democrats who are 236 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,780 disappointed by this again, this bad TV show upset a lot of Trump 237 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:43,290 people. 238 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:47,400 John C. Dvorak: It got Scott Adams who I wanted to check out 239 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,700 on this was completely beside himself 240 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:53,730 Adam Curry: and with with glee or with anger. 241 00:13:53,820 --> 00:13:55,740 John C. Dvorak: Oh, no, he says he's not voting for Trump now. 242 00:13:57,510 --> 00:14:00,750 Adam Curry: Oh, wait, since we're on Scott Adams, obviously, 243 00:14:00,990 --> 00:14:06,300 the clear winner of the debate last night was the no agenda 244 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:09,180 debate. Bingo. That was I mean, that went viral in the 245 00:14:09,180 --> 00:14:13,080 Netherlands. I loved that was fantastic. And it was partially 246 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,490 thanks to Scott Adams. 247 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:20,220 Unknown: Oh, there's a really good Bingo. Bingo board. From 248 00:14:20,220 --> 00:14:26,790 Oh, my God, what's the name of John show there? Adam curry, 249 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,760 John Dvorak. Show me the comments. That damn show no, 250 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,680 John C. Dvorak: this was interviewed on the 251 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Adam Curry: damn show. I can't remember the damn show. 252 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Unknown: So if you look for the no agenda, podcast or there must 253 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,350 be a website or something that Biden says and it's pretty 254 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:51,180 hilarious. And actually it would be fun. Literally play at home. 255 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:55,950 So look for that the no agenda. Bingo card for Biden. Just 256 00:14:55,950 --> 00:14:57,330 Google it. It'll probably pop up. 257 00:14:57,390 --> 00:15:00,120 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, thanks. I appreciate that. We got On 258 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,720 nice, nothing good play and good work good. John. It was very 259 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,760 funny. It was, oh, I'm going 260 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,580 John C. Dvorak: to do a version for the harder version is going 261 00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:13,170 to be Pamela Yeah, Pence for a second version for the second 262 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Biden Trump things. Just go and you are the mastermind? Well, 263 00:15:18,690 --> 00:15:22,230 any publicity is good publicity. Oh, that's good. AMY GOODMAN 264 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:24,930 summarized the whole debate. Do you want to hear the summary the 265 00:15:24,930 --> 00:15:30,330 debate from Democracy Now? Yes, shameless summary. i By the way, 266 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:32,520 started spelling her name by accident, but I'm going to keep 267 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,260 it this way. Goof men? 268 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:40,530 Adam Curry: gooferment. Okay, hold on a second. Right. So far 269 00:15:40,530 --> 00:15:46,050 we have j y d y gooferment. This is this is becoming a show 270 00:15:46,050 --> 00:15:49,440 title, the way it's rolling. Okay. Are we ready for the sum 271 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 for the Gofman summary? Yeah, 272 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:55,050 Unknown: President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden 273 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,980 met in Cleveland, Ohio Tuesday for the first of three scheduled 274 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:02,970 presidential debates. It was a night filled with chaos and 275 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,960 insults as Trump repeatedly mocked and interrupted Biden, 276 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:10,710 who responded by calling Trump a clown and the worst president 277 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:15,150 the nation has ever had. During one exchange, Trump refused to 278 00:16:15,150 --> 00:16:18,240 condemn white supremacists after being questioned by debate 279 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,270 moderator Chris, Chris Wallace of Fox News was 280 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:28,050 critical and give me a name give me this and right Pro, stand 281 00:16:28,050 --> 00:16:31,530 back and stand by. But I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, 282 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:34,680 somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left 283 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,250 because this is not a right wing problem. Let me I 284 00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:39,930 direct this as a left 285 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:46,020 wing. After Trump said these words, the proud boys posted a 286 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:50,400 new version of their logo with Trump's quote, stand back and 287 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,390 stand by the Southern Poverty Law Center describes the proud 288 00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:57,750 boys as a hate group whose leaders regularly spout white 289 00:16:57,750 --> 00:17:01,230 nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known 290 00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:04,980 extremists. during Tuesday's debate, President Trump refused 291 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:08,400 to tell his supporters not to engage in violence after the 292 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,510 election. Trump also made false or misleading statements about 293 00:17:12,510 --> 00:17:17,190 climate change the corona virus pandemic cases of election 294 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:21,030 fraud, prescription drug prices, manufacturing jobs, Trump's 295 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:24,660 political endorsements and more after headlines will air 296 00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:27,030 excerpts in the debate and get response from around the 297 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:27,750 country. 298 00:17:29,370 --> 00:17:32,820 John C. Dvorak: Just on the same theme, yeah, let's go to PBS. 299 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,280 They were Do you think they're any different or with their 300 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:35,940 analysis? 301 00:17:35,969 --> 00:17:40,049 Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Hold on a second. They are spotted PBS is 302 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:43,289 brought to you by The Archer Daniels Midland company and 303 00:17:43,289 --> 00:17:44,609 viewers like you. 304 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:49,200 John C. Dvorak: Viewers to get the right one. Is this 305 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,190 confusing? Do I organize these rights when I was PBS on Trump 306 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:54,270 racism? Okay. 307 00:17:54,690 --> 00:17:57,630 Unknown: It has happened before with President Trump stopping 308 00:17:57,630 --> 00:18:01,950 short of clearly denouncing far right extremist and racist 309 00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:06,240 groups and sentiments When prompted, William Branham has 310 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,760 our deeper dive into that exchange from last night's 311 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,100 typically criticize the vice president 312 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:14,430 for this is the moment when the President again was unwilling to 313 00:18:14,430 --> 00:18:16,890 criticize racist groups in America, 314 00:18:16,980 --> 00:18:20,790 are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and 315 00:18:20,790 --> 00:18:25,980 militia groups, and to say that they need to stand down and not 316 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:29,580 add to the violence and a number of big cities, as we saw in 317 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:31,770 Kenosha? And as we've seen in Portland? 318 00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:37,470 Has a I would say almost everything I see is from the 319 00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:39,420 left wing not from the right, no, what 320 00:18:39,420 --> 00:18:40,920 are you? What are you? What are you saying? 321 00:18:40,980 --> 00:18:43,620 I'm willing to do anything I want to see? And do it, 322 00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:45,150 sir. Do it say? 323 00:18:45,899 --> 00:18:48,389 Do you want to call him? What do you want to call them? Give me a 324 00:18:48,389 --> 00:18:55,439 name. Give me a surprise. And right. Stand back and stand by. 325 00:18:55,529 --> 00:18:58,439 But I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, somebody's got to 326 00:18:58,439 --> 00:19:01,589 do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a 327 00:19:01,589 --> 00:19:02,729 right wing problem. 328 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:06,720 The proud boys are part of a loose network of far right 329 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,740 extremist and racist groups, many of whom have aligned 330 00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:14,460 themselves closely with the President and his policies. Last 331 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:17,580 night, New York Times reporter Mike Baker tweeted that some 332 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:21,300 proud boys had modified their logo to include the President's 333 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:25,410 words stand back stand by seemingly taking them as their 334 00:19:25,410 --> 00:19:29,040 new motto. Leaving the White House today President Trump said 335 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,130 he didn't know who the proud boys were. But he urged 336 00:19:32,130 --> 00:19:32,700 restraint. 337 00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:36,240 They have to stand down let law enforcement do their work. But 338 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,570 last 339 00:19:36,570 --> 00:19:39,270 night was just the latest example of the President's 340 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:44,430 reluctance to clearly rebuke extremist far right groups in 341 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:48,090 2017, after clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia at a 342 00:19:48,090 --> 00:19:51,600 white supremacist protest where a woman was murdered, he said 343 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,410 this even some very bad people in that group, but you also had 344 00:19:55,410 --> 00:19:59,310 people that were very fine people. 345 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,430 Adam Curry: I got so they're really they're going down on 346 00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:05,910 record with this just like Biden just like every like Chris 347 00:20:05,910 --> 00:20:09,000 Wallace, they're gonna go on record and stick with that. 348 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:13,860 John C. Dvorak: Yep. Oh, shameless assholes. These guys 349 00:20:13,860 --> 00:20:19,020 know that this is a hoax that they're that that Trump very 350 00:20:19,020 --> 00:20:23,940 clearly denounced white supremacists and Nazis in that 351 00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:28,470 same statement in that, yes, they know it, they cut it off on 352 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:33,000 purpose. This is shameless promotion for the Democrat Party 353 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,590 and cut and covering up Joe Biden using it as the excuse for 354 00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:40,950 his his running. That's as he says the whole reason he's 355 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:44,580 running for president was because of the very fine people 356 00:20:44,580 --> 00:20:47,580 comment. And if there's nothing apparently everybody knows is a 357 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,650 phony comment except for Biden. 358 00:20:50,670 --> 00:20:54,060 Adam Curry: And he's been using it from pretty much from day 359 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:57,360 one, but also, and I didn't clip it. I mean, you can clip 360 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:59,790 forever. And this thing's been clipped to death everywhere. 361 00:21:00,090 --> 00:21:04,830 When Chris Wallace said, you know, you got no plan, you have 362 00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:09,030 no plan for health care and you signed a symbolic executive 363 00:21:09,030 --> 00:21:14,820 order was executive orders aren't symbolic. What and that 364 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:18,750 was about pre existing conditions. 365 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:21,330 John C. Dvorak: Right, the pre existing conditions. 366 00:21:22,110 --> 00:21:25,320 Adam Curry: Moderator I don't understand what the role of the 367 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,340 moderator is. 368 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:29,970 John C. Dvorak: Joe Biden, that's 369 00:21:29,970 --> 00:21:33,270 Adam Curry: what it sure seemed like that. The interruptions and 370 00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:37,350 I said Biden start interrupting first. But really, I think what 371 00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:42,450 people want to see at home was at least hear what each side had 372 00:21:42,450 --> 00:21:45,870 to say. And it just never got to that point, because whenever 373 00:21:45,870 --> 00:21:48,540 someone got to a point, the other side would interrupt, or 374 00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:51,690 the moderator would interrupt. So it was it was just it was a 375 00:21:51,690 --> 00:21:58,080 bad television show. And I love the he was wired. He had an 376 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,110 earpiece in I'm not so sure about that people everyone 377 00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:05,190 wants, he may have had a remote control to insulin pump or 378 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:05,400 something. 379 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:08,520 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he reached his up in there. And he'd 380 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,160 fiddles around with something. Yeah, that's possible that he 381 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,180 got the idea of it being some sort of a drug thing. But he 382 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:17,250 didn't, you couldn't catch it enough, even though they would 383 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:22,170 cut away at certain times. And when Biden I noticed this one 384 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,190 odd cut away, Biden took I had a pin in his right hand and went 385 00:22:26,190 --> 00:22:30,630 to his his right ear and grabbed his ear for some stupid reason. 386 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:35,250 And they immediately cut away to a three shot and then they cut 387 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:38,190 right to Mike Wallace. That's when Biden could be adjusting 388 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,650 the pump. Well, that's nuts. 389 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,100 Adam Curry: But for sure, it's possible to have an in ear 390 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,300 hearing aid that is small enough, as long as you it's as 391 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:51,510 long as you don't really get shot inside the ear canal. 392 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:52,200 earwig 393 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,420 John C. Dvorak: is what they're called 394 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:55,170 Adam Curry: an earwig. 395 00:22:55,650 --> 00:22:57,570 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, they go all the way into the canal. You 396 00:22:57,570 --> 00:23:00,600 can't even see him. And they're all it's all Wi Fi. 397 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,810 Adam Curry: Well, actually, you need to loop around your neck, 398 00:23:03,810 --> 00:23:06,630 which was another wire that that apparently could have been a 399 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:09,240 thread but it could have been a wire. So it's very possible. 400 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,420 It's I don't see what huge benefit it gives. Yeah, 401 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,900 everyone's like, Oh, this guy's who gives a crap. I just don't 402 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:17,520 see the benefit. Okay, so someone can go. 403 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,160 John C. Dvorak: I think it would confuse him. Are you? Yes, yes. 404 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,350 Adam Curry: Maybe it did. Maybe it did. 405 00:23:22,620 --> 00:23:24,240 John C. Dvorak: I don't think he was that confused. I thought he 406 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,270 was on his game. That's the best we're ever gonna see Biden do. 407 00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:32,640 Adam Curry: Yeah, this is I thought this by the way. Yeah, 408 00:23:32,670 --> 00:23:33,510 go ahead. Well, 409 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,740 John C. Dvorak: there was one little racist comment that Biden 410 00:23:37,740 --> 00:23:42,330 made. This is from one of the longer clips This is a short one 411 00:23:42,330 --> 00:23:48,480 second thing. This is where Biden says he calls Mike Wallace 412 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,290 a Jew. Now. 413 00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:53,700 Adam Curry: I've listened to this. I'm not so sure. 414 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,490 John C. Dvorak: I boosted it. So I am going to play the straight 415 00:23:56,490 --> 00:24:00,690 clip. This is Biden on race calls jus. And without the 416 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:01,230 boost. 417 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,490 Unknown: Second point 418 00:24:02,490 --> 00:24:06,600 Adam Curry: I'd make you know he's saying to you okay, 419 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,860 John C. Dvorak: well listen to it boosted 420 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,450 Unknown: a second point I'd make with you. You read it is that 421 00:24:12,570 --> 00:24:16,950 John C. Dvorak: I did not. swear I did not. I did was boosted. 422 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:17,550 Let me hear. 423 00:24:17,730 --> 00:24:20,370 Unknown: Second point I'd make it you know, I'm 424 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:21,930 Adam Curry: pretty sure he's saying to you. 425 00:24:23,130 --> 00:24:25,410 John C. Dvorak: Well, it sounds like he's saying jus 426 00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:29,010 Adam Curry: that well, if he actually said it, it would be 427 00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:31,860 funnier. But I don't think he 428 00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:34,050 Unknown: did. With regard 429 00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:37,740 Adam Curry: to sorry, I didn't mean to hit that. So it's that I 430 00:24:37,740 --> 00:24:41,100 just don't. And by the way, that's not racist that's 431 00:24:41,340 --> 00:24:43,560 xenophobic, or anti semitic. 432 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:46,680 John C. Dvorak: It's different. It's a lot of this. 433 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:49,530 Adam Curry: This is the one that I think the only clip I wanted 434 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:53,490 to highlight that I thought this is how a debate should run. And 435 00:24:53,490 --> 00:24:57,300 Chris will and this was in the after the two minutes this is in 436 00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:01,830 the open discussion and I should have read the rules. I guess I'm 437 00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:04,620 not sure what an open discussion means, I think an open 438 00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:06,870 discussion if someone said, you know, that's not true, you can 439 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:10,350 go back. It's a discussion back and forth. That for some reason 440 00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:12,960 wasn't good enough. But what was said was interesting. 441 00:25:13,050 --> 00:25:17,100 Unknown: Why is it just out of curiosity, the mayor of Moscow, 442 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,100 his wife gave you son three and a half million dollars as what 443 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,400 did he do to deserve it? What did he do with Burris on 444 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:29,730 Mansur? If not, none of that is true, really. 445 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,390 If the president is please, 446 00:25:33,419 --> 00:25:36,869 totally discredited, totally discredited. And by the way, 447 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:40,230 million dollar show, Mr. Vice we got 448 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,960 Adam Curry: Mr. He saw you. 449 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:47,070 Unknown: It is not true, Mr. President, but miss you 450 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,080 it's an it's an open discussion, please. 451 00:25:49,770 --> 00:25:52,770 Adam Curry: This is what I don't understand. It's an open 452 00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:56,160 discussion. Right. It's an open discussion. Please shut up. It's 453 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,120 an open discussion 454 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,160 John C. Dvorak: and open discussion Shut up raising 455 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:04,650 Unknown: million dollars you Mr. Vice? We got $3 It is not true. 456 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,890 Really? Mr. President, but miss you it's an it's an open 457 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:13,140 discussion now. Shut up. Good catch, we will have raised an 458 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:15,060 issue let there's been times rather than answer 459 00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:20,460 discredited burglars 183,000 a month with no experience and 460 00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:21,000 energy. 461 00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:26,280 Sun did nothing wrong. And previously, Mr. President guy, 462 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,890 there's not an answer. He doesn't want to let me answer 463 00:26:28,890 --> 00:26:31,770 because he knows I have the truth. His position has been 464 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,240 totally thoroughly disguised. And media, by everybody well, by 465 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,030 the media buyer analyzed by the World Bank. 466 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,400 Adam Curry: That he pauses here. When he said when he says who 467 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,540 it's been discredited by but did you hear who discredited this 468 00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:52,230 John C. Dvorak: but well by the World Bank, the World Bank? 469 00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:56,070 Unknown: The World Bank, the 470 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:59,760 Adam Curry: world and then any stops the World Bank. But as the 471 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,270 World Bank has to do with it? I thought that was that was really 472 00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:05,550 good. Interesting. Hold on by everyone. 473 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,130 Unknown: Everyone's discredited. And matter of fact, matter of 474 00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:11,490 fact, who testified under oath skin 475 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:14,370 Adam Curry: open discussion, there's a whole pot. Listen, 476 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,020 this is bad moderating skills. Because here he says, Chris wall 477 00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:21,090 says Shut up, let them answer the question did 478 00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:24,090 Unknown: nothing wrong and provisionally, Mr. President, 479 00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:26,730 guy, there's one answer. So let him answer and one, let me 480 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:29,850 answer because he knows I have the truth. His position has been 481 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,290 totally thoroughly described, and media by everybody well, by 482 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:38,760 the media bias analyzed by the World Bank. So he's answered the 483 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,750 question by everyone has discredited and matter of fact, 484 00:27:42,810 --> 00:27:49,470 matter of fact, who testified. So let me Mister, I'm listening 485 00:27:49,470 --> 00:27:54,900 to you people on a scale. He testified under oath. And his 486 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:58,770 administration said, I did my job, and I did it very well. 487 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:02,190 They are everywhere. I'll give you the list of 488 00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:07,200 Adam Curry: anyway, it was that. So that is just that's not an 489 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,110 open discussion. And that needs to be defined or whatever. It 490 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:11,400 just made no sense to me. 491 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,250 John C. Dvorak: No, that was a good catch. Do you notice? 492 00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:18,240 Here's my clip that compete with Chris this debate in a nutshell. 493 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,840 And this is the debate in a nutshell. Okay. 494 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:23,730 Unknown: The fact is that I've made it clear that we're not 495 00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:25,920 gonna take any stuff. He's, he's still refuse to even say 496 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,390 anything upfront about the bounty on the heads of American 497 00:28:27,390 --> 00:28:27,630 soldiers. 498 00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:32,400 But the President, your campaign agreed to both sides we're going 499 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 to answer is uninterrupted. Well, you're not agreeing to it. 500 00:28:34,650 --> 00:28:36,420 And once you observe what your campaign was around 501 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,320 30 seconds yesterday. 502 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:43,680 So it's fairly report, the billionaires have got much, much 503 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,540 more wealthy by doing it over four, three to $400 billion 504 00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:48,210 worth Justin's COVID. You and home you got less, you're in 505 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:49,020 more trouble than you were before. 506 00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:51,150 Adam Curry: Do you realize how this will sound for people who 507 00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:54,330 listen to one and a half times speed? Right, it's gonna be 508 00:28:54,330 --> 00:28:55,200 pretty jarring 509 00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:58,260 Unknown: in terms of being more violent, when we were in office, 510 00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:00,630 we're 50% less violence in America than the day Peace Prize 511 00:29:00,630 --> 00:29:03,180 United States is on his watch, and with regard to more divided 512 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:05,100 the nation, state about it, we can't be this way. And speaking 513 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,780 of my son, the way you talk about the military, when you 514 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:10,380 talk about the losers and being and just being my son was in 515 00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:12,930 Iraq, he spent a year there, he got it, he got the Bronze Star, 516 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,910 he got your speaker service medal. He was not a loser. He 517 00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:17,070 was a patriot. And the people left behind there were heroes, 518 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:21,450 and I resent talking to my son Beau Biden Hunter got thrown out 519 00:29:21,450 --> 00:29:21,570 of the 520 00:29:21,570 --> 00:29:22,230 military. He was 521 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,230 Adam Curry: this is this is an open discussion to me. It's a 522 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:28,560 little fast. But this is an open discussion where they're talking 523 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,010 and and point counterpoint. But Chris Wallace would kept keep 524 00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:33,120 jumping in 525 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:34,290 Unknown: dishonorably discharged. That's not true. 526 00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:36,540 News. And he didn't have a job until you became vice president. 527 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:38,010 Once you've been a bad president. He made a fortune and 528 00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:38,820 Ukraine and China and 529 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:43,230 he didn't have a son. Like a lot of people, like a lot of people 530 00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:45,480 at home had a drug problem. He's overtaking a piece of PCs. 531 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,940 Please fix it. He's worked on it. And I'm proud of it. But it 532 00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:51,690 wasn't totally, totally discredited. 533 00:29:51,780 --> 00:29:52,860 We bought we've already been through this. I think the 534 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:54,240 Americans would rather hear about more substantial 535 00:29:58,860 --> 00:30:01,440 support I robbed the audit committee said what more 536 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,910 taxpayers only got to put him in for political reason. You 537 00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:04,170 know, I'd like to talk about climate change. 538 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,930 John C. Dvorak: Do you know what Wallace takes the debate about 539 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,670 climate change? Hunter Biden and says the thought he says, I 540 00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:20,190 think we will talk about more substantive topics he wants to. 541 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,200 He doesn't want this to be No, 542 00:30:22,199 --> 00:30:24,629 Adam Curry: no, no, that's not what he said. He said, the 543 00:30:24,629 --> 00:30:27,809 American people want the American people. The American. 544 00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:29,159 Thank you, Chris Wallace. 545 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. So he speaks for he speaks for us. 546 00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:35,520 Yeah. Now. And then he swings into climate change, which 547 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,820 nobody wants to listen to these two guys talking about climate 548 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:41,280 change, because neither one of them are climatologist their 549 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:45,690 idea is just like, who cares? They both know about Hunter 550 00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:48,690 Biden. And they've looked into it. It's more interesting. It's 551 00:30:48,690 --> 00:30:53,070 more factual. It's more substantive. But no, no, we 552 00:30:53,070 --> 00:30:56,460 can't talk about that. We got to switch it to climate change. 553 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,370 Chris Wallace was the absolute Yes. You said it earlier. The 554 00:31:02,370 --> 00:31:05,730 worst moderator in the history and they blame Trump. Trump's 555 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:06,390 fault. Yeah. 556 00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:10,410 Adam Curry: He was jumping. If you're a moderator, I believe 557 00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:15,330 you have to understand how to approach each candidate. And 558 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,380 right from the beginning, after maybe three minutes. That's when 559 00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:22,380 Wallace was just mapping. Yeah. And I understand because like, 560 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,030 Okay, I gotta keep this guy in check. Gotta make sure it 561 00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:28,050 doesn't interrupt. He just way over compensated. And I think 562 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:31,290 people should call him on it. 73 point 1 million people watched, 563 00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:35,010 apparently. And that would be Nielsen Nielsen. Yeah. It's 564 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:39,720 lower than 2016. That's Nielsen ratings. I don't have the time. 565 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600 But you know, the fall off how long people watched? 566 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:45,870 John C. Dvorak: I don't I believe they may have watched 567 00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:49,050 longer than some people like to the Democrats have predicted on 568 00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:52,980 the media. Oh, people tuned out. I'd like to see those numbers 569 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:55,620 too. But they weren't they have not released them. I think 570 00:31:55,620 --> 00:31:58,230 people tuned maybe some people actually tuned in to watch it 571 00:31:59,130 --> 00:32:00,030 wasn't car wreck 572 00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:06,120 Adam Curry: was 55 and fun in 55. And up demo. The demo, the 573 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,410 numbers are actually a little larger than 2016 40.5. Millions. 574 00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:13,410 That gives you an idea. That's the biggest demographic 575 00:32:13,410 --> 00:32:14,010 watching. 576 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:18,330 John C. Dvorak: So there are more old white people watching 577 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:20,820 old white men? Is that what you're saying? It's probably how 578 00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:25,740 Adam Curry: it works. would make a lot of sense. Yeah. But geez, 579 00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:30,960 man, everyone. Emails, phone calls, text messages, my sister 580 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,140 in law yesterday. All right. What do you think of the debate? 581 00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:36,600 See, do you want to have a show before the show? You want me to 582 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,750 tell you what I think? No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not how 583 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,080 it works. And also what a responsibility. I don't know 584 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,740 what we thought of it. Here's, here's, here's what I saw. The 585 00:32:46,740 --> 00:32:50,100 day after, and I saw I think, again this morning, it may have 586 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:56,040 changed, the stock market went up. Is that not an indicator of 587 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:02,010 what the markets think is a winner? You know, and not just a 588 00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:04,890 little bit, you know, went up went up, hit the over 20. 589 00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:09,750 John C. Dvorak: If I was I used to write these reports. And 590 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:12,510 always mocked the fact that you can just take whatever the stock 591 00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:16,260 market does and reverse engineer an excuse for what why it went 592 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,260 that way. Sure. If you wanted to, you could say the following 593 00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:24,060 Biden won the debates and then the stock market went up. They 594 00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:24,990 love Biden. 595 00:33:25,709 --> 00:33:30,419 Adam Curry: Rice. Okay, yes. All right. Well, I think that's 596 00:33:30,419 --> 00:33:32,699 counterintuitive to what the market always says, 597 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,690 John C. Dvorak: Well, that's the way they're the analysts always 598 00:33:36,690 --> 00:33:39,840 put it they always reverse engineer it to their liking. 599 00:33:39,929 --> 00:33:42,419 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, of course, I'm doing the same. 600 00:33:43,169 --> 00:33:43,469 Yeah, 601 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,600 John C. Dvorak: that's what you do. So totally, your stock 602 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,630 market really should get into play at all your role. Who 603 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:51,750 knows? You got in some report that came out? We don't know. 604 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,260 Here is I got a couple more of these. Get him out of the way is 605 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:59,820 good. It's good stuff. Here is Trump on them. So there's not 606 00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:04,440 that. here's this, here's that smart moment that you talked 607 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,350 about. Trump makes a point with smart. 608 00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:10,980 Unknown: Could you use the word smart? So you said you went to 609 00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:14,130 Delaware State but you forgot the name of your college. You 610 00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:18,000 didn't go to Delaware State you graduated? Either the lowest or 611 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,730 almost the lowest in your class. Don't ever use the word smart 612 00:34:20,730 --> 00:34:23,730 with me. Don't ever use that word. Oh, give me a because you 613 00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:27,000 know what, there's nothing smart about you, Joe 47 years you've 614 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,700 done this the benefit you would have had let me just tell you 615 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:33,990 something, you know, if you would have had to charge of what 616 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:36,930 I was put through, I had to close the greatest economy in 617 00:34:36,930 --> 00:34:39,630 the history of our country. And by the way, now it's being built 618 00:34:39,630 --> 00:34:39,960 again. 619 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:43,620 Adam Curry: What I what I find interesting is when I listened 620 00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:47,400 to and I watched it first, I listened to it the second time, 621 00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:50,850 and then the third time I kind of watched it a distance. A lot 622 00:34:50,850 --> 00:34:54,510 more was said then the initial appearance. You know the initial 623 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,360 impact was oh my god, what happened here? I didn't learn 624 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,250 anything. It was it As you stated in the beginning, it's 625 00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:07,530 also possible. And let's just go to our comms razor, that this is 626 00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:14,400 a almost classic World Wrestling tactic. You got three fights, 627 00:35:14,970 --> 00:35:19,800 each six rounds, and you're the heel. And the heel comes in and 628 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,530 causes chaos. Certainly in the first round. It is possible. I 629 00:35:25,530 --> 00:35:27,660 don't know, I agree with you. I think the President had a 630 00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:31,380 horrible performance. Yeah, but when you listen, there was 631 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:34,650 John C. Dvorak: bringing another Scott Adams point in. 632 00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:38,520 Adam Curry: Now he's got voting for Trump. He's done. As you see 633 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:38,970 he's done. He 634 00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,550 John C. Dvorak: has done a show. I think Scott Adams has some 635 00:35:41,550 --> 00:35:44,460 show. Net. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know. It's on. 636 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,610 Netflix. No, no, no, it's 637 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:51,720 Adam Curry: on. Isn't it on? I think you can hear it on the 638 00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:53,580 fine Microsoft Zune. 639 00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:55,680 John C. Dvorak: Tick tock, tick tock tock, maybe 640 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,830 Adam Curry: I don't know what he's on. Yeah. He's a he's a 641 00:35:58,830 --> 00:36:01,860 cartoonist. Doesn't he draw? South Park, South Park? Is that 642 00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:02,340 what he does? 643 00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:04,320 John C. Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. I think Scott does a 644 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:10,350 cartoon. Yeah, he is, according to South Park is okay. We got to 645 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,240 show Scott. Scott said something one of his now, analytical 646 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,840 points, which I thought was accurate. He says that in this 647 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,800 debate, Trump did absolutely nothing to defend himself. He 648 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,250 went on the offensive on every at every moment. When he when 649 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:30,000 they win the fine people. This would really irked him because 650 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,180 he's 651 00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:33,330 Adam Curry: been a big problem that Scott's probably 652 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:35,579 John C. Dvorak: okay. Yeah. So he said when he's doing fine 653 00:36:35,579 --> 00:36:40,049 people came up at Trump said nothing. 654 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,590 Adam Curry: That's not true. No, no, no. He did say something. 655 00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:46,620 But he mumbled something. He said, read the rest of the 656 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:47,160 quote. 657 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,260 John C. Dvorak: Nobody hurt. Yes. But you'd have to go back 658 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:53,910 and listen to get that the and it was minor. It wasn't really 659 00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:57,990 defending your so I think there's a reason what well, and 660 00:36:57,990 --> 00:37:01,890 then on the other thing, where he says that the Russians are 661 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,440 the bounty thing. He mentioned that in a couple of other these 662 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,610 phony baloney, talking points and Trump's had nothing. In 663 00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:12,480 fact, in that I think I have the one where he were, Biden might 664 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,970 call him out try this. This was on on the when Trump was 665 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:21,780 attacked for being, I think a race as he's been attacked for 666 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:24,330 being a racist by everybody. But let's, let's play this clip, 667 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:29,550 just Biden 1994 crime bill, and this is Trump going after him. 668 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:32,610 Unknown: There's about 100,000 of them. Who are the predators? 669 00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:33,750 100,000. 670 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600 Adam Curry: Yeah, you blew it. You blew your clip, man. 671 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:44,970 John C. Dvorak: That was 9094. Yeah. When Biden will actually 672 00:37:44,970 --> 00:37:47,220 not really let's play that clip. And then we can play Biden 673 00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:49,050 denying ever said it. Oh, there you go. 674 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,900 Unknown: There's about 100,000 of them. Who are the predators 675 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,290 100,000 of the kids read about in the front page of the 676 00:37:55,290 --> 00:38:00,210 newspaper every day, unless we do something about that cadre of 677 00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:05,250 young people 10s of 1000s of them born out of wedlock. 678 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:09,180 Without parents without supervision without any 679 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:13,590 structure. Without any conscience developing a portion 680 00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:17,910 of them will become the predators 15 years from now. And 681 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:21,720 Madam President, we have predators on our streets. They 682 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:23,910 are beyond the pale many of those people. 683 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,410 We have no choice but to take them out of society. 684 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:33,780 John C. Dvorak: Take him out at me. Take him out of me. This is 685 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:37,440 Biden versus Trump on race. Okay. 686 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,830 Unknown: The issue of race. Vice President Biden, you say that 687 00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:45,450 President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville 688 00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:49,530 three years ago, when he talked about very fine people on both 689 00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:54,720 sides. Was what directly led you to launch this run for press 690 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,150 Adam Curry: supposed to be a dog whistle, not a dog bark, but 691 00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:58,050 okay. Well done. 692 00:38:58,290 --> 00:39:01,830 Unknown: Oh, yeah. Sure. President Trump, you have often 693 00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:03,900 Adam Curry: said something right there. You said it. 694 00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:09,390 Unknown: Was what directly led you to launch this run for 695 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:13,410 president? Oh, yeah, sure. President Trump, you have often 696 00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:17,520 said that you believe you have done more for black Americans 697 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,120 than any president with the possible exception of Abraham 698 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,780 Lincoln. My question for the two of you is why should voters 699 00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:28,470 trust you rather than your opponent, to deal with the race 700 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:31,650 issues facing this country of the next four years? Vice 701 00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:33,180 President Biden, you go first? 702 00:39:33,509 --> 00:39:34,589 It's about equity. 703 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,830 Adam Curry: I have a question here. If debate question, I have 704 00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:44,190 a point of process and order. If you're asking a question, it's 705 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:49,020 for both of you. But the question includes a whole setup 706 00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:54,390 of Trump. Here's what you said. Isn't that weird? If you then go 707 00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:55,200 to Joe Biden, 708 00:39:55,950 --> 00:39:57,450 John C. Dvorak: not if you're only in for Joe 709 00:39:57,450 --> 00:40:00,000 Adam Curry: Biden from a debate from you know, the whatever the 710 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,150 The Chatham House rules I don't know what the hell how does how 711 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:08,970 do you do that in a debate? He's saying, Mr. President, you said 712 00:40:08,970 --> 00:40:11,610 this, you said this, you said this. This question is for both 713 00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:17,010 of you. And then he goes to Biden, so not giving Trump an 714 00:40:17,010 --> 00:40:20,730 opportunity to defend the statements. I just don't know if 715 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,370 Is that how you typically would do that in debate with a 716 00:40:23,370 --> 00:40:24,450 question for both pads 717 00:40:24,450 --> 00:40:26,160 John C. Dvorak: that I know of? It's just the way he did it. 718 00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:29,430 Unknown: Right country of the next four years. Vice President 719 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:30,510 Biden, you go first, 720 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,410 it's about equity, in equality. It's about decency. No, 721 00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:36,540 Adam Curry: no, no, I have to stop. This is what the moderator 722 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:40,080 should have said, it's coming back to me now. Mr. Trump, you 723 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,920 said very fine people, Mr. Biden, and you said you ain't 724 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,660 black fat would have been a question. That would have been 725 00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:50,070 the right question. But no, 726 00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:52,860 Unknown: to deal with the race issues facing this country of 727 00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:55,890 the next four years. Vice President Biden, you go first. 728 00:40:56,220 --> 00:41:00,570 It's about equity, in equality. It's about decency. It's about 729 00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:04,830 the Constitution. And we have never walked away from trying to 730 00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:08,580 quote require equity for everyone equality for the whole 731 00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:12,600 of America. But we've never accomplished it, but we've never 732 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:15,930 walked away from it like he has done it is true. The reason I 733 00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:18,540 got in the race is when those people close your eyes remember 734 00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:20,430 what those people look like coming out of the fields 735 00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:21,360 carrying torches. 736 00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:24,450 Adam Curry: The trick, by the way, that's a very good NLP 737 00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:27,660 trick. Close your eyes. Imagine what I'm telling you paint the 738 00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:28,200 picture, 739 00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:32,430 Unknown: their veins bulging beauty, just spewing anti 740 00:41:32,430 --> 00:41:35,940 semitic violence, accompanied by the Ku Klux Klan, a young woman 741 00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:38,340 got killed, and asked the President what he thought he 742 00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:43,230 said there were very fine people on both sides. No presidents 743 00:41:43,230 --> 00:41:47,490 ever said anything like that finish. It is. Now second, sir. 744 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,990 Second point I'd make with you is that when Floyd was killed 745 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:55,410 when Mr. Floyd was killed, there was a peaceful protest in front 746 00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:58,710 of the White House. What did he do? He came out of his bunker 747 00:41:58,740 --> 00:42:02,880 had the military to use tear gas on him. So you could walk across 748 00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:06,660 to a church and hold up a Bible. And then what happened after 749 00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:09,720 that? The bishop of that very church said that it was the 750 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,530 disgrace. The general who was with him said he only all he 751 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:16,560 ever wants to do is divide people not unite people at all. 752 00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:20,580 This is a president who has used everything as a dog whistle to 753 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:25,260 try to generate racist hatred, racist division. This is a man 754 00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:28,950 who in fact, you talk about helping African Americans, one 755 00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:33,240 in 1000 African Americans has been killed because of the code 756 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,630 of the Coronavirus. And if he doesn't do something quickly, by 757 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:41,190 the end of the year, 100 will have been killed one in 500. 758 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:45,810 African Americans, this man, this man is the is the savior of 759 00:42:45,810 --> 00:42:50,160 African Americans. This man cares at all this man's done 760 00:42:50,190 --> 00:42:53,760 virtually nothing. Look, the fact is that you have to look at 761 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,210 what he's talks about. You have to look at what he did. And what 762 00:42:57,210 --> 00:43:00,570 he did has been disastrous for the African American community. 763 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,230 So President Trump you have two minutes? Why should 764 00:43:04,830 --> 00:43:07,290 Adam Curry: so Biden had two and a half minutes there if we're 765 00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:09,060 just going to be assholes about counting, 766 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,120 Unknown: I can trust you over your opponent to 767 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:17,670 do it a crime bill 1994 Where you call them super predators, 768 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:20,250 African Americans, the super predators and they've never 769 00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:22,080 forgotten it. They've never forgotten it. 770 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,640 You ever so No, sir. It just started. 771 00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:27,420 John C. Dvorak: And so there's been you know, these fact 772 00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:29,790 checkers come out and a lot of them, you know, are checking 773 00:43:29,790 --> 00:43:33,030 anybody any facts at all, especially the Biden stuff. They 774 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:37,590 won't call this a? This is interesting. And I don't know if 775 00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:41,280 Trump did it on purpose or not. You heard the clip. Biden calls 776 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,470 them predators, predators, predators, they shouldn't be put 777 00:43:43,470 --> 00:43:44,760 down. Yeah. And 778 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:48,870 Adam Curry: it was Hillary who said super predators who said 779 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:51,630 John C. Dvorak: super predators trying to top Biden Yep, she's 780 00:43:51,630 --> 00:43:55,740 got to up the ante a little bit. So she's a super. So nobody's 781 00:43:55,770 --> 00:44:00,180 pointed out that well, this fact check falls right in never said 782 00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:03,180 super predators. He said, predators they can't bring 783 00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:06,090 themselves to do it. Because they wouldn't be pointing out 784 00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:11,250 that Biden did say predators, so Right. So they won't even Oh, 785 00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,350 no, no fact check. No, we're not. No, we don't have to fact 786 00:44:13,350 --> 00:44:17,730 check that Nana No. So they just No, no, no, no, no. It's 787 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,910 unbelievable how the media operates. And I want to play 788 00:44:20,910 --> 00:44:23,430 this with just before we finished, I just finished the 789 00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:26,250 22nd Okay, finish the 22nd. Yeah. 790 00:44:27,209 --> 00:44:30,479 Unknown: So President Trump, you have two minutes? Why should 791 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,769 Americans trust you over your opponent here with race did 792 00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:40,080 a crime bill 1994 Where you call them super predators, African 793 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,810 Americans a super predators and they've never forgotten that 794 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,420 they've never forgotten the Jefferson. No, sir. It's his two 795 00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:48,180 minutes. So you did that and they call you a super predator 796 00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:51,300 and I'm letting people out of jail now that you have treated 797 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:55,350 the African American population community you have treated the 798 00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:59,220 black community about as bad as anybody in this country. You did 799 00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:02,700 the 99 And that's why, if you look at the polls, I'm doing 800 00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,940 better than any Republican has done in a long time, because 801 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:07,050 they saw what you did. 802 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,740 Adam Curry: Can I just give some context to that whole discussion 803 00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:13,860 for people who don't actually know what happened in 1994? 804 00:45:13,860 --> 00:45:18,270 Because there is just a short. Yeah, context. There was there 805 00:45:18,270 --> 00:45:21,300 was an article in the Los Angeles Times. And it was a 806 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:25,980 picture of this. I think it was a 12 or 13 year old kid, a das 807 00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:30,030 black kid, and, you know, a killer. And it was and the kid's 808 00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:33,780 name was nickname was Lily yummy. And they did an analysis 809 00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:36,990 with computer models. And this is all in the New York Times, 810 00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:40,650 went back later and said, Oh, we really messed up, kind of like a 811 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:44,490 climate change Coronavirus computer model. And that's how 812 00:45:44,490 --> 00:45:47,790 they came up with, oh, this is going to be 10,000 It'll be 813 00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:51,480 50,000. The cities will be overrun. And it just never 814 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,530 happened. The models were wrong. It was completely off base. But 815 00:45:55,530 --> 00:45:59,100 yes, the 94 crime bill put a lot of people in jail. 816 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,380 John C. Dvorak: Yep. And listen to here's how CNN handles that 817 00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:08,610 fact check so that CNN broke comes down and he's just a 818 00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:10,920 prelude to then they go into some more details, but I just 819 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,990 want you to hear this as a CNN fact check. 820 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,080 Unknown: I want to bring in CNN fact checker, Daniel Dale has 821 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,010 been very busy today scrutiny. Everything we heard from both 822 00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:23,610 candidates. Daniel, first the big picture, how much was fact? 823 00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:25,560 How much was false? Well, it 824 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,930 depended Wolf on who we were listening to. I think it's 825 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:31,050 important for us as journalists to say when both sides are not 826 00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:34,350 alike, and they were not alike. Tonight, we had an avalanche of 827 00:46:34,350 --> 00:46:38,430 lying from President Trump. Biden conversely made at least a 828 00:46:38,430 --> 00:46:41,130 couple of false or misleading claims. But honestly, he was 829 00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:44,910 largely accurate. There were times during this debate, where 830 00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:47,670 President Trump's every line specifically on mail voting, 831 00:46:47,790 --> 00:46:50,760 almost every single thing he said during that concluding 832 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,760 section of the debate was inaccurate. And the other thing 833 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,130 that stood out to me, Wolf was that these are largely false 834 00:46:56,130 --> 00:46:59,040 claims the President has made before these weren't one time 835 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,370 slips or gas or airs, these have been fact checked. And he keeps 836 00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:03,660 saying them and they're still wrong. 837 00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:07,440 Adam Curry: What's very interesting, at Associated Press 838 00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:15,480 released a fact check on on Biden, and they came up with 33. 839 00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:21,150 And believe it or not, yes, 3030 threes that were incorrect, 840 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:25,350 including including the very fine people, but that's just 841 00:47:25,530 --> 00:47:26,880 John C. Dvorak: really somebody's on. Yeah, 842 00:47:27,090 --> 00:47:29,550 Adam Curry: no one cares. No one cares about that. I don't think 843 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:31,440 John C. Dvorak: we do. Oh, of 844 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,740 Adam Curry: course we do. But my what kind of just yeah, just 845 00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:38,580 going back to Scott Adams with a very fine people who Scott 846 00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:42,570 Adams, he has some show Snapchatter. He's a Snapchatter 847 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,810 I think is a Snapchatter. Okay, that makes sense. So it's, I 848 00:47:48,810 --> 00:47:52,770 think it's possible, because Joe Biden just hung his hat on this. 849 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,720 He said, I went I ran for President because you said that. 850 00:47:58,230 --> 00:48:03,840 So he has the President has some opportunity, possibly in the 851 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,560 future to roll out that and say you're starting your you started 852 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,770 your candidacy based on a false premise. And that Scott added 853 00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:13,500 because he's hung up on it. He's really hung up on it. 854 00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:16,350 John C. Dvorak: Well, it does give you the history of this. 855 00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:23,460 Scott, about a year ago, rolled out who Scott Scott Adams he's a 856 00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:30,690 cartoonist. Oh, so he about a year ago he rolled out a long 857 00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:37,050 deconstruction of this bullcrap. Find people thing with the with 858 00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:39,540 the transcripts and with the original recordings and 859 00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:44,340 everything. And he made a big fuss about it. And he and he's 860 00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:48,030 just said, Now it could be told everyone he actually thought 861 00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:52,830 that because he did it that this was going to end it is done for 862 00:48:52,830 --> 00:48:57,750 once and for all, and ever did nothing. And he has been just 863 00:48:57,750 --> 00:49:00,330 it's been snowing at him ever since. And every time it comes. 864 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,490 I see it's like slowly I turned Niagara Falls. Turn step by 865 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:09,210 step. It just see no I saw every time fine people comes up in the 866 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:11,070 conversation. Scott goes nuts. 867 00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,130 Adam Curry: I see what happened. Here's what happened. The master 868 00:49:14,130 --> 00:49:19,140 persuader was certainly was certain that he had hypnotized 869 00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:23,160 millions of people into understanding the errors of 870 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:29,760 their ways. And in fact, not only did his persuasion fail, he 871 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,290 actually hypnotized himself in reverse somehow. And now we 872 00:49:34,290 --> 00:49:36,870 can't get out of here. Someone needs to slide in the mirror 873 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:41,040 slap him so he can get out of it. When he's has his wits about 874 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,240 him. He's okay. 875 00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:45,540 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, no, this thing is really got his goat and 876 00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:47,130 it's not going anywhere. 877 00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:55,170 Adam Curry: Isn't it interesting that the best part of the 878 00:49:55,170 --> 00:49:57,330 discussion about the debate is Scott Adams. 879 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,939 John C. Dvorak: All right, and I have maybe one more clip maybe 880 00:50:02,939 --> 00:50:08,879 two. But the last debate clip is spelled Vate, of course, 881 00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:13,560 Unknown: I said this is okay. I mean his family we could talk 882 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,430 about all families and 883 00:50:14,670 --> 00:50:18,690 families I let them die family fortune coming down and helping 884 00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:19,800 us with Governor had said, 885 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,470 Mr. Doe, one of the most this is not about family or his family. 886 00:50:25,470 --> 00:50:30,000 It's about your family in America. That's not true. It 887 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,950 doesn't want to talk about what you need you the American 888 00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:36,030 people. It's about 889 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,130 John C. Dvorak: stopping for a second we're talking. This is 890 00:50:38,190 --> 00:50:40,980 this is where he turns to the camera and starts like yeah, 891 00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:47,100 that was weird. Well, he got kudos up the butt from PBS and 892 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:51,540 every all the Democrat outlets. Oh, this was great. He turned 893 00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:54,150 and talk to the public wall. That's fine. I 894 00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:55,980 Adam Curry: got this creepy at a certain point. 895 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,990 John C. Dvorak: I thought it was creepy the whole time. Yeah, 896 00:50:58,260 --> 00:51:00,270 it's not this is not the way that we're supposed to be 897 00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:02,790 debating somebody. You're not supposed to be lecturing the 898 00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:04,590 public but okay. Yeah. 899 00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:07,050 Adam Curry: Well, that was I guess that was kind of a 900 00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:10,050 throwback to the way the democratic the Democratic party 901 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:14,100 primaries worked. When you do your your final thing into the 902 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,800 camera, which really wasn't even in play here. I don't think but 903 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,610 still. He went to it. And he just looked. He didn't look 904 00:51:20,610 --> 00:51:26,070 healthy. Bad makeup. I don't understand. You could have given 905 00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:29,670 a little bit more cover could have been in television. 906 00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:32,940 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, he's just got those air brushes for a guy 907 00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:36,840 like this. You could give him a nice foundation. Spray them up? 908 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,110 Yes. 909 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:43,830 Adam Curry: It's brought him up. It's an actual spray paint that 910 00:51:43,830 --> 00:51:46,860 they use it all over the place and television studios now and 911 00:51:46,890 --> 00:51:49,920 none of that. I don't know. Maybe he's too brittle. 912 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,040 John C. Dvorak: But maybe they did use it. 913 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,850 Unknown: You the American people, it's about you. That's 914 00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:00,660 what we're talking about. 915 00:52:00,810 --> 00:52:04,020 All right. That's the end of the segment where we're moving on. 916 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,820 Didn't take them vice president. 917 00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:08,280 Be honest, it's very important to 918 00:52:09,870 --> 00:52:12,390 know the answer. The question is no, 919 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:15,240 Ukraine No, sir. With a billion dollars if 920 00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:18,090 you know, when you're not true. 921 00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:22,950 You're gonna have a true gentleman. I hate to raise my 922 00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:26,310 voice to be a Why shouldn't I be different than the two of you? 923 00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:27,810 So here's the report. 924 00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:32,490 Adam Curry: Now, Chris Wallace gets no kudos of the butt for 925 00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:36,090 this performance. It was the worst he failed. He really 926 00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:36,630 failed. 927 00:52:37,230 --> 00:52:40,170 John C. Dvorak: That's done I have I have a just a sub clip 928 00:52:40,170 --> 00:52:44,460 from Biden and I want you to die. Hell, this is it is too 929 00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:48,840 long to be a ISO but I did ISO part of it. Yeah. But this is 930 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,110 the this is best be it in Logic 931 00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:56,250 Unknown: is what it is. What is what it is because you are who 932 00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:58,350 you are. That's why it is 933 00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:06,870 Adam Curry: easy, what they finally solved the cube of three 934 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:11,250 numbers to equal 33, which apparently was some, you know, 935 00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:15,570 they needed a supercomputer to figure it out. And I think Biden 936 00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:18,960 might have actually done some of the coding, because that is that 937 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,930 is some quantum thought right there. Let's hear it again. What 938 00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:25,890 I got here, the whole quantum statement, please, I'd like this 939 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,070 in quantum code, because when you run this, I think we'll see. 940 00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:30,210 We'll save the world 941 00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,320 Unknown: is what it is. It is what it is. Because you are who 942 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,120 you are. That's why it 943 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,270 Adam Curry: is what color is my parachute? I mean as great. 944 00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:42,990 John C. Dvorak: This is just really good. Yeah. So I have two 945 00:53:42,990 --> 00:53:47,190 clips, just sub clips next to them. Oh, yeah. This is is what 946 00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:47,820 it is. I 947 00:53:47,820 --> 00:53:51,750 Adam Curry: so Oh, hold on a second. That is good. Is what it 948 00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:52,260 is. 949 00:53:52,890 --> 00:53:55,080 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. The show possible. Yeah, that's possible. 950 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,370 That's not a bad thing to show. 951 00:53:56,700 --> 00:54:00,180 Adam Curry: Can I roll with that? Yeah, sure. I have this 952 00:54:00,180 --> 00:54:06,690 one. He's Putin is puppy. Yeah, Puppy was that a mistake? Did he 953 00:54:06,690 --> 00:54:08,880 mean to say puppet but it just came out puppy? 954 00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:12,330 John C. Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. I really think does he 955 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,850 meant to say puppet but Puppy say no. 956 00:54:14,850 --> 00:54:16,020 Unknown: He's his puppy puppy. 957 00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,020 John C. Dvorak: Now the other one is I got to find people. I 958 00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:19,410 sewed 959 00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:25,110 Unknown: nice, very fine people on both sides. Yeah, now 960 00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:29,250 John C. Dvorak: for the US. Very fine 961 00:54:29,250 --> 00:54:31,230 Adam Curry: people on both sides. Yes. 962 00:54:31,319 --> 00:54:33,449 John C. Dvorak: That's what we are. Yes, you're 963 00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:38,250 Adam Curry: the racist. I'm the Antifa we're very fine people on 964 00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:45,960 both sides. Very nice. Huh. One thing overlooked in this entire 965 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,460 process and the circus that it is and and if people are 966 00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:53,370 surprised that it's never been like this before, we've really 967 00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:57,180 never had crap, by the way. Well, no, it's it's not 968 00:54:57,570 --> 00:55:01,920 necessarily the debates or the process it social media we 969 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,530 really have in 2015, Trump started to use social media, 970 00:55:07,710 --> 00:55:11,220 like we actually expected Obama to do in 2008, even though there 971 00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:14,670 was, well, I guess, Twitter, it was just kind of coming up 972 00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:17,520 around that. And Obama never joined. 973 00:55:17,549 --> 00:55:19,679 John C. Dvorak: I joined Twitter in 2008. Yeah. So 974 00:55:19,830 --> 00:55:22,290 Adam Curry: Obama never really became that, you know, he had 975 00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:25,200 once in a while or tweet something, I've got an executive 976 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,000 order. So it's, it's what's happening around us. It's the 977 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,910 debate, it's the clips, it's what you're seeing online, go 978 00:55:32,910 --> 00:55:36,150 OTG, turn it off kids, you'll live it'll be fine. But on the 979 00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:40,290 younger kids, and I've started receiving emails from parents, 980 00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:43,560 who have five year old, I think, is even one for the donation 981 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,470 list later. So I'm not quite sure I don't, I'm just keeping 982 00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:50,400 them anonymous. But this note was very telling. This weekend, 983 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,310 we went to our cabin in northwestern Wisconsin, my 984 00:55:53,310 --> 00:55:57,120 middle son is five years old, he picked up a stick a big one was 985 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,240 walking in the woods and started hitting trees. I mean, really 986 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:04,950 smacking them while yelling, Get out of here, Joe Biden, and 987 00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:08,910 you're not gonna, you're not gonna let me starve Joe Biden. 988 00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:14,130 So imagine, your kid is whacking trees and say, Get out of here 989 00:56:14,130 --> 00:56:18,570 and Joe Biden. So the note continues, my wife was shocked. 990 00:56:18,810 --> 00:56:21,840 Yes, I'm semi vocal about my political views in front of our 991 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,350 kids, but nothing crazy. My wife is buttoned up on politics. 992 00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:29,970 Turns out, he's been seeing Joe Biden ads on YouTube that he 993 00:56:29,970 --> 00:56:35,040 can't skip, when he watches Draw With Me videos to draw with me 994 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,890 as you draw little cute superhero pictures. And that's 995 00:56:37,890 --> 00:56:40,530 the only time the kids ever on the iPad, and he's getting so 996 00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:45,090 mad at Joe Biden for not letting him get to his superheroes. And 997 00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:48,330 the food part came from a friend at school, he said, If Trump 998 00:56:48,330 --> 00:56:53,310 loses, we're all going to be out of food. So just just think 999 00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:57,660 about what's happening with our kids, you know, let's just let's 1000 00:56:57,660 --> 00:57:00,630 pay a little bit attention to that, because, and it's not like 1001 00:57:00,630 --> 00:57:03,900 it's what you say it's what's around them clearly. Why is Joe 1002 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:08,640 Biden advertising in front of a Kids program? That's disgusting. 1003 00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:09,990 And it backfired? 1004 00:57:12,750 --> 00:57:17,010 John C. Dvorak: I guess so. Yeah. Wow. Well, that's a good 1005 00:57:17,010 --> 00:57:17,580 story. 1006 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,760 Adam Curry: Well, I want I want, I want more of them, because 1007 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,610 this is happening. And kids are responding and saying funny 1008 00:57:23,610 --> 00:57:26,640 things, but also, it's just kind of sad. And it's I think it's 1009 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,790 good. Parents, you gotta know what you're what you're doing 1010 00:57:29,790 --> 00:57:33,810 here. You gotta be very careful with the devices. 1011 00:57:35,070 --> 00:57:38,340 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, well, I do have, here's an example of an 1012 00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:42,690 anti bias. I don't have that ad he's talking about, but I do 1013 00:57:42,690 --> 00:57:47,010 have an anti Biden ad. That just I don't even know if it's 1014 00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:50,730 trumped up put this out, I think is done by a, one of the packs, 1015 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,950 you know, decided to do these funny ads. But this is just a 1016 00:57:52,950 --> 00:58:00,210 bunch of Biden quotes. And which one is it is called a Trump ad 1017 00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:02,250 blasting Biden on China. 1018 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,640 Unknown: Gotcha. China is going to eat our lunch. Come on, man. 1019 00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:12,960 We want to see China. It is in our self interest that China 1020 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,560 continue to prosper. They're not bad folks poke but guess what? 1021 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:20,220 They're not. They're not our competition. For us. rising 1022 00:58:20,220 --> 00:58:24,270 China can be a significant asset for the region of the world. And 1023 00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:28,020 selfishly for the United States. We want China to grow. Why don't 1024 00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:28,650 we Why don't we? 1025 00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:35,340 Adam Curry: Did you see the note from our one of our nights about 1026 00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:38,760 China's Xi Jinping and Jiang Zemin. 1027 00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:41,940 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I just want to read the old Donald 1028 00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:44,970 huncho IT guys like 97 or something, 1029 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,770 Adam Curry: but I just want to I want to read this because it 1030 00:58:46,770 --> 00:58:51,930 kind of kind of came in code. In fact, the first line is code 1031 00:58:52,140 --> 00:58:55,710 below too hot to read as his publicly I don't know what that 1032 00:58:55,710 --> 00:59:01,740 means. But already I'm like, Oh, this is so important. And and he 1033 00:59:01,740 --> 00:59:05,160 says that there's really two gangs the Zhi Jing ping Zhi Jing 1034 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,310 ping gang, which is the you know, the current What is it the 1035 00:59:08,310 --> 00:59:11,490 chairman or what exactly is your rank is the way he's the 1036 00:59:11,490 --> 00:59:14,820 Emperor, basically, whatever it is, and the previous emperor 1037 00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:18,720 guy, Chairman, Jiang Zemin. And I'm sure I'm pronouncing them 1038 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,590 wrong. And the Zhang Zhi min is kind of here in the States. And 1039 00:59:22,590 --> 00:59:24,780 of course, you know, these are hundreds of billions of dollars 1040 00:59:24,780 --> 00:59:28,950 These are truly big gangs of small small amounts people but 1041 00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:31,710 really masks not here in the States. Yeah, I think he's got a 1042 00:59:31,710 --> 00:59:34,920 big presence here in the state, not him himself, but the gang. 1043 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,800 Oh, maybe. Yeah, it'd be so okay, I'm gonna read this 1044 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,310 verbatim, see if we can figure it out. The G gang, gave the 1045 00:59:41,310 --> 00:59:46,530 Democrats a hard drive of Trump's in quotes, ingredients, 1046 00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:51,000 which is he says his material for blackmail, blackmail. And 1047 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,830 the deal was, if Biden gets elected, then Trump other than 1048 00:59:55,830 --> 01:00:00,600 he's going to track down the virus thing. And gee would then 1049 01:00:00,630 --> 01:00:06,630 pay a $1 trillion compensation to the US using Jiang overseas 1050 01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:09,090 deposits. So the other guy's money. He I guess he was trying 1051 01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:13,500 to cut him out altogether. So that's, that's, that's kind of 1052 01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:17,640 what they gave Trump. But then Jiang got this info. They gave 1053 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,850 the Republicans three hard drives of Hunter Biden 1054 01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:26,130 ingredients for blackmail, a deal of four and a half billion 1055 01:00:26,130 --> 01:00:30,600 dollars upon Biden's election with a $10 million down payment 1056 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,900 to Biden, I guess. And they have some adult videos featuring 1057 01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:38,430 Hunter EViD plus evidence of how the virus was made and dropped. 1058 01:00:39,390 --> 01:00:43,500 And those three hard drives somehow wound up with Giuliani 1059 01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:48,600 through Trump. So there's all this apparently all this weird 1060 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,640 stuff out there and Nancy Pelosi has copy. So there's stuff out 1061 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,820 there, according to one of our knights who we have to take 1062 01:00:56,850 --> 01:00:58,110 somewhat seriously 1063 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,150 John C. Dvorak: like and take him semi seriously, but he might 1064 01:01:00,150 --> 01:01:01,860 as well just signed it. Q. 1065 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,690 Adam Curry: Is that a Q thing? I don't read Q so now is that 1066 01:01:06,690 --> 01:01:11,160 cute? It might be might be it's a Q drop? A Q drop Q drop? I 1067 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,810 didn't know. I don't know if it's a Q drop? 1068 01:01:13,350 --> 01:01:17,970 John C. Dvorak: Well, whatever it is, it is it is it is because 1069 01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:22,230 it because you are who you are is what it is. It is it is. 1070 01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:28,260 Adam Curry: Okay, but there is some other news or do you have 1071 01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:29,040 more on the debate? 1072 01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:33,660 John C. Dvorak: I'm looking to get the front end of a rap that 1073 01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:36,840 PBS that we can skip because it's just the same old same old 1074 01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:42,030 and no, I do have to call ends after we can't live without a 1075 01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:44,640 caller. Actually, these columns were before the debate, but 1076 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,160 they're still good. If you want to hear two good call ends. 1077 01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:52,170 Yeah, sure. This C span calling from Georgia is a Trump woman 1078 01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:54,180 who hates Trump and says he's broke. 1079 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,390 Unknown: Palmetto Georgia, Rene. Good morning. 1080 01:01:58,650 --> 01:02:01,740 Good morning, and thanks for taking my call. I just want to 1081 01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:08,130 make this comment. There's a lot of people, Trump supporters that 1082 01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:11,310 are calling in on the independent line and the 1083 01:02:11,310 --> 01:02:16,410 Democratic line, please, pull you this guy's off. Are Trump 1084 01:02:16,410 --> 01:02:22,230 supporters. Let me say this. Donald Trump, I do not know how 1085 01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:28,590 much that this man and what he has done since he has been in 1086 01:02:28,620 --> 01:02:34,260 office. What he did before he, when he was running for 1087 01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:41,160 president, how much can be shown to the American people. Before 1088 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:47,490 you believe that this man all ways have been a fraud. Donald 1089 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:56,460 Trump is a fraud. He is broke. He was never a billionaire and 1090 01:02:56,460 --> 01:03:02,130 will never be a billionaire. The man is a fraud. He owed people 1091 01:03:02,130 --> 01:03:05,430 money. Now you know why he owed people money. He has scammed 1092 01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:09,390 people out of their money. American people, Donald Trump 1093 01:03:09,390 --> 01:03:15,660 supporters, please get up out of that quote, and start realizing 1094 01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:22,290 that you are supporting a fraud. I mean, I can't overemphasize 1095 01:03:22,290 --> 01:03:25,530 it. I cannot. It is ridiculous. 1096 01:03:26,399 --> 01:03:28,139 Let's talk to Lawrence who's calling from 1097 01:03:28,830 --> 01:03:31,170 Adam Curry: I'm a little disappointed that Wanda Sykes 1098 01:03:31,170 --> 01:03:34,020 would call people out for calling in on the wrong lie. It 1099 01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:36,570 was fun. It was so obvious it was her. 1100 01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:39,990 John C. Dvorak: Now, this is all stemming from something we 1101 01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:41,460 didn't talk about in the show. I'm probably not going to 1102 01:03:41,460 --> 01:03:44,190 discuss it in great, great detail, but I will say that I 1103 01:03:44,190 --> 01:03:49,590 have looked over the long report on Trump's $750 tax payments. 1104 01:03:49,590 --> 01:03:49,680 Oh, 1105 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,230 Adam Curry: wait, I'm sorry. No, no, that's not it's not a tax 1106 01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:55,410 payment. No, no, no. You know what it is? You know what? 1107 01:03:55,410 --> 01:03:58,740 That's all that whole thing is about, don't you? What, it's a 1108 01:03:58,740 --> 01:03:59,730 bombshell. 1109 01:04:00,029 --> 01:04:02,549 Unknown: Breaking news the bombshell report on President 1110 01:04:02,549 --> 01:04:06,449 Trump's tax returns breaking news tax bombshell, The New York 1111 01:04:06,449 --> 01:04:09,179 Times gets its hands on President Trump's taxes. We have 1112 01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:12,570 major breaking news this hour a bombshell report from the New 1113 01:04:12,570 --> 01:04:13,350 York Times 1114 01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:15,900 on the eve of the first presidential debate between 1115 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:19,110 Donald Trump and Joe Biden a bombshell report in The New York 1116 01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:19,530 Times 1117 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,250 you know, this has been one of the worst months for any 1118 01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:28,590 president I can ever recall. Three big bombshell just in the 1119 01:04:28,590 --> 01:04:29,580 last three weeks 1120 01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:33,570 John C. Dvorak: remember that you know there's a super cut 1121 01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:37,980 that's that's even better than that one that was done around. I 1122 01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:40,920 think was February of 2017. Where there was bombshell 1123 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,550 bombshell show yeah, yeah can you find it because that I mean 1124 01:04:44,550 --> 01:04:48,660 that and this is all old and it was bombshell and the walls are 1125 01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:50,130 closing in remember that 1126 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,430 Adam Curry: we actually have so Oh, walls closing in. There's a 1127 01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:55,110 couple of let's see which one this is 1128 01:04:55,140 --> 01:04:58,110 Unknown: giant news story from Buzzfeed News Today it 1129 01:04:58,110 --> 01:05:01,470 is one of the most dramatic and potentially devastating 1130 01:05:01,470 --> 01:05:02,280 developments of 1131 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,440 bombshell reporting a bombshell said 1132 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960 bombshell and this bombshell bombshell bombshell 1133 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,340 bombshell bombshell. 1134 01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:12,870 bombshell bombshell. bombshell report gotta get back to that 1135 01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:13,470 bombshell, 1136 01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,590 the biggest bombshell BuzzFeed latest bombshell bombshell 1137 01:05:16,590 --> 01:05:18,450 damning and damaging stuff 1138 01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:20,940 Adam Curry: what may be the most damning allegation yet and what 1139 01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:23,790 may be the most damning report and it goes on for a while then 1140 01:05:23,790 --> 01:05:26,430 there's this one BREAKING NEWS A bombshell 1141 01:05:26,430 --> 01:05:29,340 Unknown: today is a turning point today was historically bad 1142 01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:31,920 for President Trump today was a turning point 1143 01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:34,050 Adam Curry: turning Turning Point turning point. Yeah, okay. 1144 01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:37,350 We can go on forever with these. They never get never get old. 1145 01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:40,530 John C. Dvorak: There. They're hilarious. Well, let's listen to 1146 01:05:40,530 --> 01:05:43,710 the second call which this guy, this is the black guy who takes 1147 01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:46,890 calls. And they were unfortunately he gets involved 1148 01:05:46,890 --> 01:05:49,650 with the calls. He nods his head when he's when the Democrats are 1149 01:05:49,650 --> 01:05:54,030 calling. He's very biased. But he did not like this guy. Dave, 1150 01:05:54,030 --> 01:05:54,600 good morning. 1151 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,270 Unknown: Yes. Good morning. From an independent perspective, 1152 01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:00,840 I view the Times article as malicious gossip for the 1153 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,050 gullible. Now as an independent. What I do feel is important is 1154 01:06:04,050 --> 01:06:08,190 an article by CNS News with a brain surgeon surgeon told Biden 1155 01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:13,110 he has less than 50% chance of being normal. Were Biden even 1156 01:06:13,110 --> 01:06:17,550 stated, they take a saw and cut off your head. So the fact that 1157 01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:21,720 this candidate is not being covered accurately by the media, 1158 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,140 is anyone really dumb enough to believe that world leaders are 1159 01:06:25,140 --> 01:06:28,080 going to take it easy on a mentally impaired president? 1160 01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:32,400 Adam Curry: Let's go to Tom. But this is a valid point. And of 1161 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,360 course, if people are making this, I'm sure Rush Limbaugh no 1162 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:42,210 YUTAN on today. There'll be all over it is, you know, if Trump 1163 01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:45,240 was bullying, they're trying not to say it because they know that 1164 01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:48,150 it kind of backfires. If you say he was bullying an old man, or 1165 01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:49,980 that's basically what was happening. 1166 01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:52,290 John C. Dvorak: That's the same thing with this super predators. 1167 01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:56,040 They won't discuss it because they don't want to drop the 1168 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,160 other shoe about us. You can't you can't do it. That's what 1169 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,560 they're trying to get out. That's why they want to cancel 1170 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,690 these debates. Yes. 1171 01:07:04,140 --> 01:07:08,370 Adam Curry: Yes. And then I think we I think Rogan 1172 01:07:08,970 --> 01:07:11,010 moderating debate is still a possibility. 1173 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,080 John C. Dvorak: That would be better than what we had. 1174 01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:18,750 Adam Curry: Yeah, it sure would be I have one undecided voters 1175 01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:19,740 seaspan Call 1176 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:24,270 Unknown: i i was looking for Biden last night 1177 01:07:24,270 --> 01:07:27,000 Adam Curry: on this call. Here's this show up on a call. What was 1178 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,150 this? I can't remember what source this was from. But this 1179 01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:31,560 was an undecided voter. 1180 01:07:31,590 --> 01:07:35,340 Unknown: I mean, that he had the strength to physically carry out 1181 01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:39,450 this job. And I was also looking to hear some of his policies 1182 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,640 because I, I do, I am conservative. And unfortunately, 1183 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,400 there were there wasn't a lot of substance to the debate last 1184 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,510 night and, and he seemed to be very tired by the middle of it 1185 01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:52,560 with slurred speech. 1186 01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:56,280 Adam Curry: And this is another issue I had, instead of saying, 1187 01:07:56,550 --> 01:08:00,840 You have no plan, you've done this, you've done that. I don't 1188 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,890 think there was a single question. Except in some kind of 1189 01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:09,180 weird, defensive way. That actually asked either of the 1190 01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:14,250 candidates really what their vision was. It was just it was 1191 01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:16,740 stated fact, you know, you're doing this, you're doing that. 1192 01:08:17,010 --> 01:08:19,320 No one really asked. I don't think 1193 01:08:19,350 --> 01:08:23,970 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. I think we've, we've, we've, let's face 1194 01:08:23,970 --> 01:08:27,900 it, Chris Wallace stunk at this. Yeah, he was nervous. He was 1195 01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:30,480 getting more nervous, which really was bothersome to see I 1196 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:33,750 don't like seeing that now. Where he was like, literally 1197 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:36,480 shaking when he went to because when they when they start to 1198 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,540 argue with each other some sort of thing is must have had 1199 01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:43,740 something to do with his dad or mommy and daddy fighting kind of 1200 01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:46,650 thing or some people just makes them nervous. And he was getting 1201 01:08:46,650 --> 01:08:47,280 nervous and 1202 01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:51,060 Adam Curry: millennials had to switch off and turn away. 1203 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,290 Because they can't handle mommy and daddy fighting. You're so 1204 01:08:55,290 --> 01:08:56,070 right. You nailed 1205 01:08:56,069 --> 01:08:59,999 John C. Dvorak: it. So right Chris Wallace has this, these 1206 01:09:00,029 --> 01:09:04,919 mommy daddy issues and he was he just couldn't control it. He was 1207 01:09:05,489 --> 01:09:08,279 the RA. I know why they picked him. They thought well, he's 1208 01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:11,309 because he works for Fox and but he's not really a Trump guy. 1209 01:09:11,309 --> 01:09:13,679 He's one of the few guys. We're not one of the few but he's one 1210 01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:17,609 of the many Trump haters at Fox. And in fact, when you looked at 1211 01:09:17,609 --> 01:09:20,069 some of the headlines after the debates, it was you know, 1212 01:09:20,069 --> 01:09:25,259 emphasizing Fox Fox would emphasize you know, Oh, of 1213 01:09:25,259 --> 01:09:26,579 course Trump failed of 1214 01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:30,570 Adam Curry: course course. Now, I wonder what the psychology of 1215 01:09:30,570 --> 01:09:33,570 this is. Because it's called you know, mommy and daddy are 1216 01:09:33,570 --> 01:09:38,850 fighting. So people get adult people get triggered if we have 1217 01:09:38,850 --> 01:09:42,420 an argument on the air, which then goes on to Twitter. I hate 1218 01:09:42,420 --> 01:09:43,830 it when mommy and daddy are fighting. 1219 01:09:43,860 --> 01:09:46,260 John C. Dvorak: Yes, I especially if it's a good one. 1220 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,400 Adam Curry: Yeah. So is that because people are not 1221 01:09:50,430 --> 01:09:58,080 accustomed to seeing real life in their media? Ooh, because 1222 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,830 when mom and dad are fighting that's It's real, and it can be 1223 01:10:01,830 --> 01:10:08,070 frightening as a child, because it's real. So when we were real 1224 01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:10,920 with each other, come on, man, we're real with each other all 1225 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:16,470 the time. And so I so our, our disagreements are real. And what 1226 01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:20,610 you saw last night which Chris Wallace kept interrupting was 1227 01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:24,120 reality. The reality of the of the differences in the 1228 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,660 disparities and two guys who don't like each other and people 1229 01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:30,990 can't handle that because television rarely shows you 1230 01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:35,220 people who are actually arguing for real. All the stuff you see 1231 01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:38,850 on cable connecting No, yes, no one ever feels uncomfortable. 1232 01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:43,830 Ever. is never uncomfortable. Mommy daddy fighting you won't 1233 01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:48,270 see you tweet about that. So check yourself people. Reality 1234 01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:50,910 is on the podcast. That's where you want to be. 1235 01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:55,770 John C. Dvorak: Believe in a lot of most podcasts are up to par. 1236 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,090 Oh, hell yeah. 1237 01:10:58,230 --> 01:11:02,250 Adam Curry: There's kind of a disturbing story which I delved 1238 01:11:02,250 --> 01:11:06,810 into a bit because it just was so odd to me. And this is about 1239 01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:12,120 Brad parscale. Trump's former campaign manager who got quote 1240 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,720 unquote, demoted a couple of months ago, which was said was 1241 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,370 because of the so called tick tock scam and more people 1242 01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:24,810 registered for the first Trump rally during Coronavirus and 1243 01:11:24,810 --> 01:11:27,210 actually showed up and it was an embarrassing moment 1244 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:32,010 John C. Dvorak: he has because they, Pascal was scammed by a 1245 01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:36,540 bunch of fake all yawn common bunch of Democrats that decided 1246 01:11:36,750 --> 01:11:41,790 to kind of slam his inbox with with requested invites. And then 1247 01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:44,910 Pascal was out bragging about oh, we're gonna get her Oh, so 1248 01:11:44,910 --> 01:11:48,090 many people that nobody showed up because they're all phonies. 1249 01:11:48,510 --> 01:11:49,920 That's why he got demoted. 1250 01:11:49,950 --> 01:11:52,410 Adam Curry: I don't think so. Something else I think happened. 1251 01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:55,170 First, let's listen to the report of his takedown 1252 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,540 Unknown: this police body cams showing the moment Fort 1253 01:11:57,540 --> 01:12:00,540 Lauderdale PD arrived at the home of senior Trump campaign 1254 01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:04,020 advisor Brad parscale, who they find shirtless and sitting on 1255 01:12:04,020 --> 01:12:08,970 his front step. But even though he doesn't appear to be armed 1256 01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:12,360 and isn't being aggressive, other officers quickly rushing, 1257 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:20,010 tackling him to the ground. I didn't do anything. The shocking 1258 01:12:20,010 --> 01:12:23,370 Body Slam of the former Trump campaign manager coming after 1259 01:12:23,370 --> 01:12:23,850 his wife 1260 01:12:23,879 --> 01:12:27,059 called 911 for help and went away and then I started 1261 01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:31,650 telling police parscale was intoxicated. And on according to 1262 01:12:31,650 --> 01:12:34,260 the police report, Candice forescout told officers her 1263 01:12:34,260 --> 01:12:37,860 husband had suicidal thoughts over the past few weeks beliefs 1264 01:12:37,890 --> 01:12:39,840 negotiating with him to cooperate. 1265 01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:44,790 Okay. All right. Can you do us a favor? Can you walk out with no 1266 01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:48,660 weapons? Can you come outside with no weapons, please. 1267 01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:52,440 forskolin was taken to a nearby hospital for medical evaluation. 1268 01:12:52,620 --> 01:12:55,410 The police report saying his wife had several bruises on her 1269 01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:59,070 arms and scratches on her cheek and forehead. One officer saying 1270 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,740 she accused her husband of previously hitting her. 1271 01:13:01,950 --> 01:13:04,560 Adam Curry: Now, I don't like it when they throw that out there 1272 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,140 without one off. You know, one officer said either soon 1273 01:13:07,140 --> 01:13:10,050 official report or not. You don't report that that's that's 1274 01:13:10,050 --> 01:13:14,670 a huge accusation. If if if that took place. But I'll just leave 1275 01:13:14,670 --> 01:13:18,060 that aside, because it didn't didn't sound very proven. So the 1276 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:22,710 guy is flipping out. And then you know, the guns thing. He's 1277 01:13:22,710 --> 01:13:25,770 lives in Florida. And everyone has I got five, six guns here. 1278 01:13:25,770 --> 01:13:28,650 But anyway, he looked like he was sitting on his front step. 1279 01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:31,590 And you know, they took him down. And so he clearly is in a 1280 01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:34,050 bad state. He was probably arguing with his wife and 1281 01:13:34,050 --> 01:13:37,530 everything else could have happened. Is it all just because 1282 01:13:37,530 --> 01:13:41,940 of that demotion, because of the TIC tock? There's some other 1283 01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:44,730 things that are starting to float up. And this actually, 1284 01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:50,820 I'll take you back to something that he said could be the 1285 01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:52,800 October surprise, 1286 01:13:52,830 --> 01:13:54,660 Unknown: you know, me, I'm not going to sit around and just 1287 01:13:54,660 --> 01:13:57,630 accept that the media is no victory. So we've spent a lot 1288 01:13:57,630 --> 01:14:00,060 we've spent the last three years building some new technology we 1289 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:02,640 have not revealed yet. I'm not gonna reveal it here because 1290 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,740 it's secret. But next time I see you alone, I'll talk to you 1291 01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:06,990 about it. But we have no way we're going to converse with 1292 01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:07,980 hundreds of million right 1293 01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:10,680 Adam Curry: there. Right there. I think we probably mentioned it 1294 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,090 the way you said that. Yeah, no, it's, I'll talk to you about I 1295 01:14:15,090 --> 01:14:19,020 want to make sure that was like a Silicon Valley bullshit pitch. 1296 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,500 And we caught that you're talking to crap now. And that's 1297 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,610 that was out of character I felt for the way he would describe 1298 01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:30,870 how, with such precision how they were using Facebook and 1299 01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:35,670 other algorithm based systems to target people. So that smelled 1300 01:14:35,670 --> 01:14:36,180 bad, but 1301 01:14:36,210 --> 01:14:37,950 Unknown: next time I see you alone, I'll talk to you about 1302 01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:40,290 it. But we have no way we're going to converse with hundreds 1303 01:14:40,290 --> 01:14:42,810 of million 100 million Americans that we need the out to vote 1304 01:14:42,810 --> 01:14:46,320 directly without the media in the middle. Without social media 1305 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,320 in the middle. We have a way to do that. That's been 1306 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,110 unprecedented in American history. And when we turn that 1307 01:14:52,110 --> 01:14:54,720 engine on, we're going to be able to deliver votes and bring 1308 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,240 a GOTV get out to vote efforts that's never been seen in 1309 01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,180 American history, because I understand the media They do 1310 01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:03,210 everything that they can, from suppression polls to everything 1311 01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:06,000 else they can to try to convince our people not to get our vote. 1312 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,210 And there's 100 Over 100 million Americans love this President to 1313 01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:11,550 get out to vote and we don't need all of the show. But if all 1314 01:15:11,550 --> 01:15:14,040 I'm do Where is he one of the biggest landslide victories in 1315 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:14,880 American history. 1316 01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:17,970 Adam Curry: So I don't know if we talked about it at a glance 1317 01:15:18,150 --> 01:15:21,600 at length back on the show, but this is about a company called 1318 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:27,060 Phunware P Hu n n, where Phunware and their penny stock. 1319 01:15:27,060 --> 01:15:31,140 They're about 90 cents, and all kinds of weird, like financing 1320 01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:36,210 deals and all of a sudden, you know, the stock basically the 1321 01:15:36,210 --> 01:15:41,160 stock was worth $5, but it was under one. And there was this 1322 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,000 Brad parscale floating around. And what happened is Pascal 1323 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:51,270 started, American made media consultants, a MMC with Katie 1324 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:54,720 Walsh and Mike shields. And Katie Walsh has an interesting 1325 01:15:54,720 --> 01:16:00,210 history. But I'm just giving you the names. It looks like $170 1326 01:16:00,210 --> 01:16:04,920 million of campaign spending was essentially laundered through 1327 01:16:05,730 --> 01:16:10,260 multiple firms. And a lot of it wound up with American made 1328 01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:15,180 media consultants. It's like an FEC thing. And I don't think I 1329 01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:18,810 think Pascal is just he's a simple dude named Ben, who kind 1330 01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:21,600 of grew real fast because he could do websites, and he 1331 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:28,140 understood how to do stuff. But DC ate him up. And he took Katie 1332 01:16:28,140 --> 01:16:31,020 Walsh, she got a hold of him. And then it's like, oh, and I 1333 01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:33,240 will do this. And however, because of course, this is how 1334 01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:38,280 everyone does it. Everyone is Commedia consultants. They get a 1335 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,730 piece of the media by They get a percentage of I mean, they're 1336 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,930 eaten from all sides of money, big, big money. And I think that 1337 01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:48,540 that they got caught and they were doing something not 1338 01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:52,980 completely, honestly and maybe illegally. And that's what I 1339 01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:58,440 think that's what happened. And that's still to come out. So I 1340 01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:01,590 think that's why he's flipping out. That's sad, because I don't 1341 01:17:01,590 --> 01:17:03,540 think he's a bad guy necessarily. He 1342 01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:05,730 John C. Dvorak: got it okay for you. So it wasn't the other 1343 01:17:05,730 --> 01:17:08,490 thing. I mean, that may have gotten him demoted, but he he's 1344 01:17:08,490 --> 01:17:10,800 flipping out because he got his ticket in the ringer. 1345 01:17:11,550 --> 01:17:14,760 Adam Curry: Well, I think this came to I think Trump found out 1346 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,240 about it, and I think he found the timing just might have been 1347 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,230 whatever it was. 1348 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,140 John C. Dvorak: And Trump we had to couple things about Trump. We 1349 01:17:22,140 --> 01:17:26,070 gotta always except he knows about how to do these scams. 1350 01:17:27,150 --> 01:17:34,110 He's New York. Manhattan real estate. Yes. So the whole thing 1351 01:17:34,110 --> 01:17:38,340 is a scam. And you have to know how to play those rules. I mean, 1352 01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:41,880 he couldn't he wasn't good enough to do it in Atlantic 1353 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:46,950 City. No, because he was slightly different. You want to 1354 01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:49,830 refer that's the reference stuff if you're not you really have to 1355 01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:53,670 be a mob boss. Yeah, but he knows how to do Manhattan and he 1356 01:17:53,670 --> 01:17:56,550 knows a lot of these how these operating probably and he 1357 01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:59,100 doesn't like to have them associated with his campaign. 1358 01:17:59,130 --> 01:18:02,310 Adam Curry: No, of course not. He fires people immediately for 1359 01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:04,140 stuff like that. Of course. Yeah. He 1360 01:18:04,170 --> 01:18:06,750 John C. Dvorak: fires him for Yeah, anything for less so 1361 01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:10,800 Adam Curry: and right on and, you know, we'll see. I'm not 1362 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,990 gonna put it in the book, but something's gonna come out about 1363 01:18:12,990 --> 01:18:19,200 it. And then we have Joe Joe Biden and Joe Biden went out on 1364 01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,790 his build back better train tour. He believes that shit the 1365 01:18:23,790 --> 01:18:29,040 build back better train tour. And they had a build back better 1366 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,010 sign he's out there. He's announcing it Jill's out there 1367 01:18:32,250 --> 01:18:34,650 and then in the middle of this of Jill's I think was Jill 1368 01:18:34,650 --> 01:18:38,790 speech the build back better sign falls off of whose flops 1369 01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:43,140 down on the ground? Oh yes that she doesn't acknowledge 1370 01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:46,830 John C. Dvorak: the idea of builds back better sign falling 1371 01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:49,650 off. And it was seen as a moment 1372 01:18:49,650 --> 01:18:51,570 Adam Curry: and it was just like with gaffer tape you know, it 1373 01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:54,780 was just stuck to the to the thing wasn't attached properly, 1374 01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:57,630 which is just poorly done. And you could clearly see these were 1375 01:18:57,630 --> 01:19:02,010 those cheap Styrofoam you know, slap slap a sticker on it deals, 1376 01:19:02,460 --> 01:19:04,650 and Joe was there and he got really distracted. 1377 01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:07,890 Unknown: And here comes the train that he tried to make sure 1378 01:19:07,890 --> 01:19:08,670 didn't continue to 1379 01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:26,580 Adam Curry: run. Joseph fomer with no knowledge he does. 1380 01:19:27,210 --> 01:19:32,130 John C. Dvorak: God. He was his train. But as another trend is 1381 01:19:32,130 --> 01:19:33,360 express it went right 1382 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,320 Adam Curry: by he gives foamers a bad name. He really does. This 1383 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,590 is easy for other reasons, straight to the industry. But 1384 01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:43,740 just just to stay on. We can come right back. It's just a 1385 01:19:43,740 --> 01:19:46,530 minus. We'll talk about build back better for a second. 1386 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,790 Everyone is now starting to see it. Boris Johnson. His speeches 1387 01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:55,680 with build back better right there on screen. And of course 1388 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,730 what people are coming up with is, Hey, did Boris Johnson steal 1389 01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:04,230 this from Joe Biden take, oh my god, people do a Google search, 1390 01:20:04,230 --> 01:20:07,290 please, before you open your trap, let's go take a look and 1391 01:20:07,290 --> 01:20:10,470 see how far back this goes. And then it is truly a United 1392 01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:14,670 Nations globalist New World Order saying and there's reasons 1393 01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:17,820 behind it. It's very handy. You can use it if you need to pitch 1394 01:20:17,820 --> 01:20:21,660 something, if you need money. If you need to pitch your people 1395 01:20:21,660 --> 01:20:23,520 and let them know that we're going to, we're going to take 1396 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,860 some money from you. Now, the World Health Organization 1397 01:20:25,860 --> 01:20:30,210 doesn't necessarily pitch people of countries individually, but 1398 01:20:30,210 --> 01:20:32,280 they are pitching what they want. And this is the I think 1399 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,900 she's the new CEO of the world. I think she's new Catarina born 1400 01:20:37,530 --> 01:20:41,130 and she used the build back better to solicit 1401 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,980 Unknown: Thank you, I think by now it's clear we will have to 1402 01:20:43,980 --> 01:20:49,920 live with COVID-19 for a while. And I hope that we use the 1403 01:20:49,950 --> 01:20:54,930 diagnostic tests that we have available to live better with it 1404 01:20:54,930 --> 01:20:59,640 and to unleash the power of diagnosis. I also hope that we 1405 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,410 will build on the opportunities that arise from this crisis 1406 01:21:04,650 --> 01:21:09,330 through building back better and you know, Mike And Peter have 1407 01:21:09,330 --> 01:21:13,470 said it I think that entails and includes working on 1408 01:21:13,470 --> 01:21:19,050 strengthening integrated and digitalized diagnostic and 1409 01:21:19,050 --> 01:21:23,910 health systems that will enable us to respond better going 1410 01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:24,510 forward. 1411 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,950 Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you. So she's she's pushing for 1412 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:35,430 IT systems. If we build back better I can get a new IT 1413 01:21:35,430 --> 01:21:36,780 system. That's what I heard. 1414 01:21:39,330 --> 01:21:40,920 John C. Dvorak: Maybe a good pitch. 1415 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,060 Adam Curry: That was not a good 1416 01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:44,550 John C. Dvorak: incorporating everything let's build back 1417 01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:46,200 better with our donations. And 1418 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,360 Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage 1419 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,820 and say in the morning to you the man who literally put the 1420 01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:56,280 sea in. Come on man, John C Devorah. 1421 01:21:56,670 --> 01:21:58,290 John C. Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry 1422 01:21:58,290 --> 01:22:00,630 also in the morning all boots on the ground feet in the air subs 1423 01:22:00,630 --> 01:22:04,380 in the water, and all the ships and sea and all the names and 1424 01:22:04,410 --> 01:22:04,830 dates out there 1425 01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:07,830 Adam Curry: in the morning to our trolls. Where are we from 1426 01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:11,490 today? Trolls hands up I want to see some locales. This is no 1427 01:22:11,490 --> 01:22:15,600 agenda stream.com Where you of course you can listen to a live 1428 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,230 stream 24 hours a day of podcasts that are all part of 1429 01:22:19,230 --> 01:22:21,810 Gitmo nation a lot of them are live and you can sit there in a 1430 01:22:21,810 --> 01:22:25,590 troll room Hello Can the Navy ICU in Nebraska shy rack 1431 01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:31,830 Indianapolis? East Texas Durango Colorado Tennessee, Minnesota 1432 01:22:31,860 --> 01:22:36,300 nuts Madison Wisconsin Baltimore Corpus Christi Wales Neverland 1433 01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:40,740 they're Mississippi. That's what that's what my my flight 1434 01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:43,950 instructor told me when I was flying over England. He says if 1435 01:22:43,950 --> 01:22:46,830 you have an engine failure, whatever you do never land in 1436 01:22:46,830 --> 01:22:47,400 Wales 1437 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,390 John C. Dvorak: into into a farm farm. 1438 01:22:51,570 --> 01:22:54,360 Adam Curry: It's crash land into the ditch not into Wales. 1439 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,090 Whatever you do, I'm just kidding you. Well, she's we love 1440 01:22:57,090 --> 01:23:01,170 you off the hook. Okay, so we've got a lot of people in there. I 1441 01:23:01,170 --> 01:23:03,930 didn't count them. I'm sorry. Let's do a little count. Troll 1442 01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:09,630 count is 1611 and this is episode 1282 with the best 1443 01:23:09,630 --> 01:23:13,620 podcasting universe when you're at no agenda stream.com Get 1444 01:23:13,620 --> 01:23:16,800 someone up there for an invite to no agenda social.com which is 1445 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,850 our federated social network no algos, very high signal to noise 1446 01:23:20,850 --> 01:23:25,110 ratio. And the algos, there's nothing to infuriate people with 1447 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:30,750 things die off. Nasty boys with nasty shoes, things die off 1448 01:23:30,750 --> 01:23:34,410 pretty quickly with and without an algorithm and go back to 1449 01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:38,550 normal and it's very peaceful. That's no agenda social.com. And 1450 01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:41,550 I'd like to thank Well, we would both like to thank the artists 1451 01:23:41,550 --> 01:23:45,270 who brought us the artwork for 1281, the previous show, we 1452 01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:49,470 titled that talk and Laude talking loudly. And it was 1453 01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:58,800 Darren O'Neill for the hattrick. Was the Leslie Nielsen artwork 1454 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:04,710 of the day with the Air Force One with a mask over its nose. 1455 01:24:06,210 --> 01:24:10,920 Well done, well executed, funny, it popped. It kind of had all 1456 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,310 the elements and you had written down some very specific notes 1457 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:20,880 for our artists who do this in the value for value model. Time 1458 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,180 treasure or it's actually time talent or treasure it can be 1459 01:24:24,330 --> 01:24:27,030 exchanged here for value. And we're gonna thank some people 1460 01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:30,690 who brought some donations for us but artists put in their 1461 01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:34,950 talents and time to create fantastic artwork. And we want 1462 01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:38,970 to give them the value of criticizing that when it's ever 1463 01:24:38,970 --> 01:24:42,690 we can because they like it they like it they like hearing honest 1464 01:24:42,690 --> 01:24:43,350 criticism. 1465 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,560 John C. Dvorak: Well, a couple of things were weren't going to 1466 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:52,590 use any pictures of Ginsburg we aren't gonna know Pepe the Frog 1467 01:24:52,980 --> 01:24:56,520 no Pepe the Frog Pepe the frog is out. We don't use our own 1468 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,190 images for some people. New newcomers don't seem to remember 1469 01:24:59,220 --> 01:25:04,530 don't seem to Remember, they don't know it. Lines of cocaine 1470 01:25:04,530 --> 01:25:06,960 are not really going to be something that we use. 1471 01:25:07,079 --> 01:25:09,929 Adam Curry: We did. We did pause at Trump's platinum card which 1472 01:25:09,929 --> 01:25:10,979 Tom to nail did. 1473 01:25:11,879 --> 01:25:14,219 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, the platinum card we had it had its 1474 01:25:14,219 --> 01:25:15,689 moment. I 1475 01:25:15,690 --> 01:25:18,120 Adam Curry: think the gold or the platinum on Orange was the 1476 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:18,720 problem. 1477 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,650 Unknown: Let me go back and look at it. Yeah. 1478 01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:25,440 Adam Curry: And then right next to that, which is one new light, 1479 01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:28,140 which is another Darren submission, Darren was swinging 1480 01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:32,100 for the fences because he wanted to get the triple and he made 18 1481 01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:37,860 pieces of art. At least he had this writing for love, which we 1482 01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:41,370 liked as a piece, but then I said hold on a second. You can't 1483 01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:45,540 have a black man with a Molotov cocktail and rioting for love. 1484 01:25:45,690 --> 01:25:48,750 Because that's literally not who's throwing Molotov Molotov 1485 01:25:48,750 --> 01:25:52,170 cocktails with this one thing I've seen. It's not black people 1486 01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:57,060 throwing Molotov cocktails. So I mixed that one. No, in fact, 1487 01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:00,870 urine is racist. That's what that is. It racist race. 1488 01:26:00,870 --> 01:26:03,060 John C. Dvorak: Yes, I liked it. Because I thought it was good. 1489 01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:06,600 It had a gothic look to it. And then you pointed this anomaly 1490 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,280 out Yeah. Oh, yeah. Obviously, 1491 01:26:08,820 --> 01:26:10,950 Adam Curry: work John. That's why nothing gets done 1492 01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:14,130 John C. Dvorak: work. And the picture was inaccurate because 1493 01:26:14,130 --> 01:26:17,610 it depicts a black guy and when it should have been a white, a 1494 01:26:17,610 --> 01:26:26,430 white guy on fire if it best Yes. Trump platinum card was 1495 01:26:26,430 --> 01:26:31,920 good. But the background he needed to do the actual she is 1496 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,780 Oh yeah. She should have done her own logos and stuff. And it 1497 01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:38,550 would have been a better piece. By the 1498 01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:40,860 Adam Curry: way people you can play this game at home by going 1499 01:26:40,860 --> 01:26:44,760 to no agenda art generator.com. And you can just sit there and 1500 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,740 bitch at the art. It's pretty cool to do pitch. Art another 1501 01:26:49,740 --> 01:26:51,150 possible. It's like 1502 01:26:51,150 --> 01:26:53,580 John C. Dvorak: yelling at the television. It's very, it's very 1503 01:26:53,580 --> 01:26:55,890 cathartic. It's a great release. 1504 01:26:55,950 --> 01:26:59,340 Adam Curry: It feels so good. No agenda art generator.com in all 1505 01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:02,250 sincerity. Thank you to all artists who submit a lot of 1506 01:27:02,250 --> 01:27:05,340 these things show up over no agenda. shop.com completely 1507 01:27:05,340 --> 01:27:08,670 independent from the show, but they work with artists. They 1508 01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:12,090 give them a third of the artists a fee of their artists used and 1509 01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:15,030 they and they collect it and then it for themselves and they 1510 01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:17,910 throw money for us. I mean, it's great. It works perfectly great 1511 01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:20,700 products, love them have no other relationship with Him, 1512 01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:25,320 which is just fine with us. And we congratulate Darren O'Neal on 1513 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:29,220 his hat trick. It's the second I believe, first one of 2020 I 1514 01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:33,450 think. And we're very very proud Derek does so much he's easy to 1515 01:27:33,450 --> 01:27:37,830 correct you in the chat room, a true outstanding citizen of 1516 01:27:38,010 --> 01:27:41,640 Gitmo nation. And yes, he will I look at the troll room and all I 1517 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,600 get is no he's racist. He's he's, he has no hattricks he's 1518 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:51,390 racist. Okay, that's no agenda agenda generator.com. And we 1519 01:27:51,390 --> 01:27:54,120 like to celebrate our executive producers and Associate 1520 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,350 Executive producers for every episode. And exec you get with a 1521 01:27:58,350 --> 01:28:03,720 donation of $300 or more associate $200 up to 300. And of 1522 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,020 course, we do count dollar Rhett's from the various prison 1523 01:28:07,020 --> 01:28:09,810 colonies. And we're going to look at our list right now see 1524 01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:10,740 who we can thank 1525 01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:16,770 John C. Dvorak: well up is our one of our patrons are anonymous 1526 01:28:16,770 --> 01:28:18,510 of dog person lower slomo. Via 1527 01:28:18,750 --> 01:28:22,110 Adam Curry: Yes, with another coded message. No doubt. I love 1528 01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:27,120 it. Can we just say thank you, sir. Autonomous u r. U R E is a 1529 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,710 patron. He's a patron saint. 1530 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,360 John C. Dvorak: He's came in at 1547. So that's your code 1531 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,350 numbers for today. 1532 01:28:34,650 --> 01:28:37,950 Adam Curry: 1547 dot O is your code. 1533 01:28:38,970 --> 01:28:44,460 John C. Dvorak: Thanks. Thanks well on the right glasses here 1534 01:28:46,350 --> 01:28:49,320 Adam Curry: that LASIK not not work to your satisfaction? Or is 1535 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,160 that what is supposed to be now? I don't know why I'm thinking 1536 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:53,490 about I don't 1537 01:28:53,490 --> 01:28:55,440 John C. Dvorak: know, because they can't everything's closed. 1538 01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,740 I can't go back to my ophthalmologist for getting some 1539 01:28:58,740 --> 01:29:02,700 actual glasses. Well, that's thanks to all he says, Thanks to 1540 01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:06,030 you, too, and all the producers that make this an outstanding 1541 01:29:06,030 --> 01:29:10,080 program. I especially enjoy the titles bestowed to those on long 1542 01:29:10,110 --> 01:29:14,010 term subscription programs, demonstrating how valuable these 1543 01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:18,390 programs are for its producers. It is more than a title. It's a 1544 01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:23,820 commitment to independent thinking. says I'm limited to 1545 01:29:23,820 --> 01:29:27,720 domestic travel. Experiencing the restriction differences 1546 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:32,130 between states was I guess he's in the States was a great joy 1547 01:29:32,130 --> 01:29:36,360 and reminder of the strength of our Republic after visiting over 1548 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:40,920 half of our United States recently, which is like Okay, 1549 01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:44,640 now, the ranges of restrictions have included requests 1550 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,720 technically do technically an edict from a governor that we 1551 01:29:48,750 --> 01:29:52,350 isolate in our hotel for 14 days before walking outside to 1552 01:29:52,350 --> 01:29:55,770 visiting Sturgis where everything was business as 1553 01:29:55,770 --> 01:29:57,210 usual. So he's in 1554 01:29:57,210 --> 01:30:01,800 Adam Curry: New York. I don't know It sounds like maybe 1555 01:30:01,890 --> 01:30:03,810 John C. Dvorak: sounds like Yeah, well, they're, they're 1556 01:30:03,810 --> 01:30:08,880 stricter. Yes. I did not isolate anywhere and never had any 1557 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:13,260 issues going into restaurants or stores if open, he's a rebel. 1558 01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:17,490 Although almost everywhere requested we wear masks. I kept 1559 01:30:17,490 --> 01:30:22,380 my flip phone off in restrictive in restrictive states, so I was 1560 01:30:22,380 --> 01:30:28,440 not identified as a super spreader terrorist. TSA isn't an 1561 01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:31,980 issue for me on flights, but Homeland Security may get new 1562 01:30:31,980 --> 01:30:36,510 powers in this environment if they decide, extensive domestic 1563 01:30:36,510 --> 01:30:40,590 travel equates to aiding a foreign agent, namely the 1564 01:30:40,590 --> 01:30:48,540 Chinese virus. Never underestimate how deep state 1565 01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:52,500 will go how deep the state will go electioneering and COVID. 1566 01:30:53,970 --> 01:30:56,070 Adam Curry: Go back and read that previous slide. Never what 1567 01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,090 underestimate Never 1568 01:30:57,150 --> 01:30:59,640 John C. Dvorak: underestimate how deep the state will go. 1569 01:31:00,780 --> 01:31:04,380 Okay. And what he's referring to as the potential is he does he 1570 01:31:04,380 --> 01:31:07,110 for some I don't know what he does for work. We don't but he 1571 01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:11,130 says he's visited about 2030 states in his last few months, 1572 01:31:11,130 --> 01:31:14,280 for some reason. So he's flying around a lot. So a computer 1573 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,600 program could pick up on this. Yes, it's flying from here to 1574 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,840 there to here to there to here to there to here to there. And 1575 01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,660 he's noticed that he is flying a lot. And so he thought that 1576 01:31:24,660 --> 01:31:27,870 Homeland Security may might pick ours innocent. Well, yeah, 1577 01:31:27,929 --> 01:31:31,319 Adam Curry: I think the the name Artemis of Dogpatch is kind of a 1578 01:31:31,319 --> 01:31:32,129 red flag. 1579 01:31:32,849 --> 01:31:36,239 John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't think he signs the flight 1580 01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:36,599 tickets. 1581 01:31:36,630 --> 01:31:38,460 Adam Curry: Okay. All right. All right. Then, 1582 01:31:39,090 --> 01:31:41,280 John C. Dvorak: electioneering and COVID is everywhere he 1583 01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,630 continues. So keeping it short, so you can do your good work? No 1584 01:31:45,630 --> 01:31:46,620 jingles? No karma? 1585 01:31:46,770 --> 01:31:49,110 Adam Curry: Sir animus of Dogpatch. And Lois LeBeau. Via 1586 01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:55,320 we are so thankful for your, your regular support. It's it's 1587 01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:58,800 it's a highlight it is and I wish I could figure out the 1588 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,470 code. It's always a different number. I mean, you have to look 1589 01:32:01,470 --> 01:32:05,580 at all the numbers in sequence or in order. How about that 1590 01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:07,950 maybe maybe it's a sequence sequential thing that we're 1591 01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:08,430 missing. 1592 01:32:10,590 --> 01:32:12,630 John C. Dvorak: And I have to do something I given up. 1593 01:32:13,410 --> 01:32:15,510 Adam Curry: I'll work on it. Thank you against your animus of 1594 01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:19,140 Dogpatch lowers we'll go via our, our patron saint. 1595 01:32:21,780 --> 01:32:24,120 John C. Dvorak: Next on the list is Tommy Horton who came in from 1596 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:32,100 Havana, Florida, with $1,000. This is a big deal. And sorry 1597 01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:35,760 about that. I lost my keyboard. Yeah, no, doesn't make sense. 1598 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,180 But it happened. JNA it's been my pleasure to follow and listen 1599 01:32:39,180 --> 01:32:41,970 to your show since the beginning. I made a small 1600 01:32:41,970 --> 01:32:45,900 donation a few years ago but never followed up. I have 1601 01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:50,250 decided that I've been a douche by not contributing. By not 1602 01:32:50,250 --> 01:32:52,770 contributing. I'm dumping some of these crazy streaming 1603 01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:58,200 services. I dropped the YouTube video, YouTube TV we're paying 1604 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:02,760 for that. YouTube TV. Yeah. Yeah, I've talked about on the 1605 01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,420 show. I recommend manual because it has it has infinite 1606 01:33:06,810 --> 01:33:11,280 videotaping it has infinite recording. Oh, so you can record 1607 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,100 everything you can just record everything is pretty nice. Okay, 1608 01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:14,310 that's 1609 01:33:14,850 --> 01:33:17,820 Adam Curry: for for professional uses. That's very handy. I 1610 01:33:17,820 --> 01:33:18,120 agree. 1611 01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:21,120 John C. Dvorak: But it they jacked up the price. They didn't 1612 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,150 really do that much more. It went from $49 a month which I 1613 01:33:24,150 --> 01:33:29,940 could afford kind of to 67 summit now I'm not paying it. I 1614 01:33:29,940 --> 01:33:33,030 don't need to record everything so I can watch everything I just 1615 01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:36,210 read through skip it. I'm dumping some of these crazy 1616 01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:39,840 streaming services good for you and donating the savings to you 1617 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,830 which would be substantial. You can keep educating and 1618 01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:48,120 entertaining us I'll be donating $20 A month needed de douching 1619 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,170 thanks for the great work 1620 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:50,460 Adam Curry: you actually followed up. 1621 01:33:52,020 --> 01:33:53,850 Unknown: You've been deemed deuced 1622 01:33:54,660 --> 01:33:57,750 Adam Curry: I thought there was more to it he he followed up 1623 01:33:57,750 --> 01:34:01,920 with another email which I did for to the back office guest 1624 01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,040 didn't make it in. I feel like such a juvenile producer. He 1625 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,520 says as I just realized I forgot to add my night name please 1626 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:14,100 night me search search Chachi night of the day to the day oh 1627 01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:23,010 dao dao dao de o de Oh, boy that was really shit. I would like 1628 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:27,840 rosin for call me Chris Wallace. I would like rosin for damning 1629 01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:33,150 and pure tea for drinking at the round table by apologizes late 1630 01:34:33,180 --> 01:34:38,880 email Yeah. Okay. So let me just put that in. And his night name 1631 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:43,170 search. Search Search ah, Chai of course will be search shot 1632 01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:48,120 child night of the do. Child's at tongue twister. Sir Tung, 1633 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,510 Chung Ching Chong. Okay. All right on to the next one. 1634 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,980 John C. Dvorak: Robert blank, Shane, in Naperville 1635 01:34:56,310 --> 01:35:00,000 Adam Curry: crap. That's the one that the spreadsheet is missing. 1636 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,070 Stop today. I'm sorry. Well, because the note I got is from 1637 01:35:05,130 --> 01:35:08,310 blank Shane not for Tommy I just read you blank Shane's note. 1638 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,060 That's the weirdest thing. Hortons message was in blank 1639 01:35:12,060 --> 01:35:13,080 Shane's box 1640 01:35:15,719 --> 01:35:17,849 John C. Dvorak: Hortons message was in blank sheet this is 1641 01:35:17,849 --> 01:35:18,779 Hortons message. 1642 01:35:18,839 --> 01:35:23,219 Adam Curry: No, I double clicked on Tommy Horton and then somehow 1643 01:35:23,249 --> 01:35:26,729 it folded down next to Robert blank Shane so that's why I was 1644 01:35:26,729 --> 01:35:30,419 messed up. So this is this is the I'm paying no attention to 1645 01:35:30,419 --> 01:35:31,709 me I'm out of control over 1646 01:35:31,710 --> 01:35:34,230 John C. Dvorak: you said just disregard or you don't know at 1647 01:35:34,230 --> 01:35:36,840 Tommy Hortons night name is because that's an instant eight. 1648 01:35:37,950 --> 01:35:41,010 Adam Curry: Let me check maybe I'm confused individual 1649 01:35:41,190 --> 01:35:43,020 John C. Dvorak: while you're checking and when I read brother 1650 01:35:43,020 --> 01:35:46,800 blank Shane's Naperville Illinois $500 contribution which 1651 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,590 he says thank you for your outstanding product. My donation 1652 01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:52,710 those seemingly coming from me is in fact being financed by my 1653 01:35:52,710 --> 01:35:56,490 mother nice, as she has been vying for an executive producer 1654 01:35:56,490 --> 01:35:59,100 ship I guess we have to give this to her for quite some time. 1655 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,940 Which I guess we'll just go he doesn't does he name his mother 1656 01:36:02,940 --> 01:36:04,950 who was just going to do executive producer gonna be 1657 01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:06,750 Robert blank Shane's mother that's 1658 01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:10,350 Adam Curry: what mom my mom's more insulting. 1659 01:36:12,210 --> 01:36:14,130 John C. Dvorak: Please his mother but they've been vying 1660 01:36:14,130 --> 01:36:17,040 for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, please attribute the producers ship to 1661 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,970 oh, here it is Mona blank, Shane ah, Mona donation amount 1662 01:36:20,970 --> 01:36:23,550 however, he helps me along to knighthood. Oh, she's giving her 1663 01:36:23,550 --> 01:36:27,270 the producers ship and he's taken a knighthood. Now achieved 1664 01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:30,180 Adam Curry: sounds sounds kind of kind of, 1665 01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:32,250 John C. Dvorak: I don't know splitting hairs as double 1666 01:36:32,250 --> 01:36:37,620 dipping. Anyways, now achieved what a wonderful mom to allow me 1667 01:36:37,620 --> 01:36:41,340 to benefit from her her good works. I hit her in the mouth in 1668 01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:44,070 May and she has loved the show ever since 1669 01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:46,260 Adam Curry: like Mom, I'm gonna buy you a cake but I'm gonna eat 1670 01:36:46,260 --> 01:36:47,880 it is that is that kind of what that was? 1671 01:36:48,090 --> 01:36:51,120 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, I love it. Mom, you got diabetes, but I'm 1672 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,300 getting to your big chocolate cake. It's gonna be delicious. 1673 01:36:54,330 --> 01:36:56,460 I'll tell you I'll give you a play by play as I bite through 1674 01:36:56,460 --> 01:37:00,330 it. In in click classic tit for tat. I would like to give a 1675 01:37:00,330 --> 01:37:04,560 shout out to a new product my mother is producing called pray 1676 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,940 USA podcast where USA is a quick five minute prayer. It's a quick 1677 01:37:08,940 --> 01:37:13,980 five five minute prayer session focused around us us getting 1678 01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:17,100 together five minutes a day for 35 days to pray for our country 1679 01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:21,660 and leaders. Amidst all this tumult affecting our country, it 1680 01:37:21,660 --> 01:37:26,010 seems as though the only place to turn is to God this is bad 1681 01:37:26,010 --> 01:37:29,340 when this is when this is true. You have to turn to God in 1682 01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:34,200 prayer. The podcast is hosted by Pastor Terry hay and the first 1683 01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:39,210 episode is slated for October 1. This very day all right. Is this 1684 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:40,080 October 1 1685 01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,370 Adam Curry: or October 1 Man Geez So it's the podcast pray 1686 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:49,740 USA you can probably find that in good anywhere Yes. 1687 01:37:50,370 --> 01:37:53,550 John C. Dvorak: Okay because two more things he says there are 1688 01:37:53,550 --> 01:37:57,990 two douchebags that I know of in my life and let it be known as 1689 01:37:58,050 --> 01:38:05,190 Noah Estes could also be pronounced STS and Dominic 1690 01:38:05,190 --> 01:38:12,900 person Adam did my note to you and Mo sent on August 5 ever 1691 01:38:12,900 --> 01:38:16,170 reach either of you? Yes, I believe if not, please pass it 1692 01:38:16,170 --> 01:38:21,060 along to mo Hey, this is not the most show you didn't know I 1693 01:38:21,060 --> 01:38:24,360 shouldn't be reading didn't how to read this. I didn't buy just 1694 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:28,650 did onward. Alright, thank you very much karma or anything for 1695 01:38:28,650 --> 01:38:31,170 Adam Curry: this. No, they didn't ask for anything. As far 1696 01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:35,250 as I know. He. He hit up his mom. So good. And he just 1697 01:38:36,540 --> 01:38:38,220 John C. Dvorak: he's going to be knighted. But what's his night 1698 01:38:38,220 --> 01:38:39,300 name? Is it now that 1699 01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:41,370 Adam Curry: I have that's what I just read in the previous one. 1700 01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:43,170 So okay, so yes, he's going 1701 01:38:43,260 --> 01:38:45,660 John C. Dvorak: the other Tommy Horton is going to be knighted 1702 01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:49,350 to as Sir Tommy Horton. That's what I got to need to have all 1703 01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:54,600 these fancy names. Wait till you get to Baron. John McCabe is 1704 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:58,500 next on the list is $376 in cash. This came in his cash from 1705 01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:03,300 Orlando, Florida sweetness. Well, it makes sense when you 1706 01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:06,330 read the note, which is kind of a printed out note 1707 01:39:06,330 --> 01:39:08,370 Adam Curry: but it's your John. Here's my drug money. 1708 01:39:09,810 --> 01:39:12,480 John C. Dvorak: Hello, Adam and John. I was hitting the mouth a 1709 01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:17,340 couple of days ago. A newbie is already at $376 they just got 1710 01:39:17,340 --> 01:39:20,460 hit in the mouth like a couple days ago. Now this is the kind 1711 01:39:20,460 --> 01:39:24,870 of guy we need. Yeah, more of. I get it getting a couple days 1712 01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:28,860 ago. Hey, listen to Adams. Great guest interview. Oh, which 1713 01:39:28,860 --> 01:39:30,090 Adam Curry: one? I'm sorry. 1714 01:39:30,420 --> 01:39:32,880 John C. Dvorak: Tom Woods podcast. Oh, we 1715 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,670 Adam Curry: have a T w All right. 1716 01:39:35,700 --> 01:39:37,920 John C. Dvorak: From back in July been listening to past 1717 01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:42,420 episodes of no agenda. nonstops that's so cool. Your take is 1718 01:39:42,420 --> 01:39:46,680 right on and the old school radio bits are fabulous. 1719 01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:49,710 Adam Curry: Yeah, I was I was hitting up the soundboard a lot 1720 01:39:49,710 --> 01:39:50,280 on that one. 1721 01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:55,890 John C. Dvorak: I am sick. Tired of the propaganda shite show 1722 01:39:55,890 --> 01:39:59,040 that passes for news and entertainment. It doesn't take 1723 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,220 an extra eye To see that much of this world is run by 1724 01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:06,570 degenerates, who want to turn the rest of us into workers, 1725 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:12,270 soldiers and drones. Apparently drones are the current priority. 1726 01:40:12,540 --> 01:40:16,200 Trying to deconstruct it all became such a bummer that I 1727 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:20,040 opted out for five following the news. Thank you for hanging in 1728 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,130 there. It's great to find you guys doing the work. Wow, that's 1729 01:40:23,130 --> 01:40:27,480 fine. Skipping, I am skipping past douchebag and jumping right 1730 01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:32,640 into it as executive producer. Nice. I'm 60 years old effect 1731 01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:37,380 totem, retired Marine, been all over the world and have been 1732 01:40:37,380 --> 01:40:40,170 married for 30 years with three terrific, independent, 1733 01:40:40,170 --> 01:40:44,490 productive human resources in their mid 20s. Bless you. As you 1734 01:40:44,490 --> 01:40:49,170 may guess, from my contribution, I'm a bit of an analog dinosaur. 1735 01:40:49,980 --> 01:40:54,360 This dominant domination sampler of bits can be easily divided 1736 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,600 between the two of you as had been quarantined for 14 days and 1737 01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:01,110 sanitized so you stay safe. It also proves that we can trust 1738 01:41:01,110 --> 01:41:07,260 the US Postal Service. guys find my way into the troll row. So 1739 01:41:07,260 --> 01:41:12,330 please send an invite to Macedon thing I sent him invite. Oh, 1740 01:41:12,330 --> 01:41:16,260 good. Good. So I got one to send it to him. Hopefully he looks at 1741 01:41:16,260 --> 01:41:19,680 his email, even though he's an old dinosaur. He's requesting 1742 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:24,030 jingoes three Shut up slaves, one each for workers soldiers 1743 01:41:24,030 --> 01:41:29,010 and drones plus a karma for my smokin hot wife Liz, who 1744 01:41:29,010 --> 01:41:33,060 declares herself a queen. No agenda producers locked down 1745 01:41:33,060 --> 01:41:35,940 families with children and military and law enforcement in 1746 01:41:35,940 --> 01:41:40,200 harm's way. May the smiling Baby Jesus bless you and keep you 1747 01:41:40,350 --> 01:41:44,400 pelea John McCabe in Orlando, Florida. 1748 01:41:44,460 --> 01:41:48,630 Adam Curry: You know the Marines is always guaranteed something 1749 01:41:48,810 --> 01:41:51,180 Marines when they hear our show, they're like, oh, yeah, okay. 1750 01:41:52,140 --> 01:41:54,660 Oh, yeah. The Marines love or something about that. Yeah. All 1751 01:41:54,660 --> 01:41:56,940 right. Well, thank you very much. And well Google scouts 1752 01:41:56,970 --> 01:42:00,930 that Marines and Eagle Scouts That's right. Yep, slay 1753 01:42:00,930 --> 01:42:02,640 Unknown: shops slave. 1754 01:42:05,070 --> 01:42:12,270 John C. Dvorak: You've got karma. Triple. A triple Brian, 1755 01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:15,720 just plain old Brian from Tulsa, Oklahoma comes in with 333 dot 1756 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:22,020 nine. And he writes, I am approaching my fourth year as a 1757 01:42:22,020 --> 01:42:25,260 listener, and not wanting to celebrate four years of 1758 01:42:25,260 --> 01:42:29,610 douchebaggery so here's your damn money. Thanks to my good 1759 01:42:29,610 --> 01:42:33,180 friend Bessie, who hit me in the mouth after the 2016 election to 1760 01:42:33,180 --> 01:42:39,030 keep me from losing my friggin mind. Seriously, this show has 1761 01:42:39,030 --> 01:42:41,400 proven to be one of the bright spots and and otherwise 1762 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:46,680 miserable time to be alive. That is if all you listen to is m 1763 01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:52,020 5am. Personally, I feel blessed without major and no agenda has 1764 01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:56,580 helped me remain positive in a world that is awash with folks 1765 01:42:56,580 --> 01:43:02,430 who just want to stay I hate one another. Fuck off haters. lol 1766 01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:07,320 anyways, I've had a few 30 threes pop up this week and I 1767 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,880 was left no choice but to get off my arse and support the 1768 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,960 amygdala shrinking cause I'll take some continued jobs in 1769 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:20,550 health karma as well as a that's true, because it is true that 1770 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:24,300 you are the greatest podcast in the universe all the best future 1771 01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:26,490 night Brian have the green country. 1772 01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:29,730 Adam Curry: It's this kind of note when I hear that with your 1773 01:43:29,730 --> 01:43:34,410 delivery is probably the most fulfilling part of my job. I 1774 01:43:34,410 --> 01:43:37,440 mean, that when when people say hey, man, you kept me from 1775 01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:41,430 losing my crap. Yeah. And when you read it, John, it just it's 1776 01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:41,910 a beautiful 1777 01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:45,360 John C. Dvorak: thing. And let's go with voice. That is the guy's 1778 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,020 not me. Oh, I 1779 01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:48,600 Adam Curry: know. I know. Channeling we're professionals 1780 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:49,650 here. It's true 1781 01:43:49,650 --> 01:43:54,840 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs. 1782 01:43:58,530 --> 01:44:01,860 John C. Dvorak: Eric Adams is next and he's got 333 dot 33 For 1783 01:44:01,860 --> 01:44:05,490 Middlesex, Vermont. Hi, John and Adam. Thank you both for 1784 01:44:05,490 --> 01:44:08,250 providing the best podcast in the universe year after year. 1785 01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:11,490 There's really no other show that compares to what you both 1786 01:44:11,490 --> 01:44:15,270 have built here over the years. John made a comment earlier this 1787 01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:18,750 year but they're not being many donors in Vermont. I took that 1788 01:44:18,750 --> 01:44:22,320 as a sign that I needed to step up and ice a year a year or 1789 01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:26,190 years later and join the roundtable for FEMA Region One 1790 01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:30,420 and pay back some of the value both have provided me over the 1791 01:44:30,420 --> 01:44:33,000 years sorry for the delay in donating and here's my first 1792 01:44:33,090 --> 01:44:41,250 installment 3.3333333 with it. A D douching is an order you've 1793 01:44:41,250 --> 01:44:46,320 been deemed deuced like some health karma and some jobs karma 1794 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:50,100 for a small hobby slash business would be appreciated with a no 1795 01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:55,410 no no Addams Family Obama, since it is October. I want to add 1796 01:44:55,410 --> 01:44:58,500 I've met some great listeners through the no agenda, socials 1797 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,970 and and found some great products at the no agenda shop. 1798 01:45:03,090 --> 01:45:16,230 Thanks again, ITM. Okay, you know what? You're in my house. 1799 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:18,090 Drinking the booze. 1800 01:45:18,150 --> 01:45:22,200 Unknown: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no shame on 1801 01:45:23,610 --> 01:45:27,810 jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs 1802 01:45:33,390 --> 01:45:36,450 John C. Dvorak: onward with Matthew Anderson, who comes in 1803 01:45:36,450 --> 01:45:39,630 from West Roxbury, Massachusetts, and he is a first 1804 01:45:39,660 --> 01:45:41,820 first Associate Executive Producer to under 50 bucks and 1805 01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:46,740 he sent in a this is good. He actually sent in a type written 1806 01:45:46,740 --> 01:45:48,030 note time written 1807 01:45:48,090 --> 01:45:51,090 Adam Curry: typewritten on a Corona Corona typewriter. 1808 01:45:51,870 --> 01:45:57,690 John C. Dvorak: Indeed, ah, but he says my printer is broken. So 1809 01:45:57,690 --> 01:46:04,110 I am typing all one word on this old old old Smith Corona. 1810 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:12,060 Episode 1279 was exceptional. So good in fact that I am compelled 1811 01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:16,110 to make a donation. Listening to other podcasts has only made me 1812 01:46:16,110 --> 01:46:20,700 appreciate the no agenda show even more. The excellent sound 1813 01:46:20,700 --> 01:46:25,110 quality, the pacing and structure all make it easy and 1814 01:46:25,110 --> 01:46:30,210 enjoyable listening. It really is a joy to listen to. Man, this 1815 01:46:30,210 --> 01:46:33,810 is cherish nothing like it anywhere in the world. So I want 1816 01:46:33,810 --> 01:46:34,890 to thank you for that. 1817 01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:39,000 Adam Curry: That is I that is very nice. I'm humbled. 1818 01:46:39,810 --> 01:46:41,910 John C. Dvorak: And he says I don't need to read any of it on 1819 01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:45,300 the air. I'd rather you don't because typing means I can't 1820 01:46:45,330 --> 01:46:50,190 edit anything. Just thanks, Matthew. And by the way, Matthew 1821 01:46:50,190 --> 01:46:57,600 has a mentioned this to hit for his benefit a dynamite dynamite 1822 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,960 signature. Oh, and I don't say that that often. The I've never 1823 01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:05,910 had dynamite signature and what kind is it a curly or no, it's 1824 01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:09,330 just I had to actually scan it and put it in the newsletter. 1825 01:47:09,330 --> 01:47:14,250 Did you put it on his check? Yeah, that's what I should do. 1826 01:47:16,380 --> 01:47:19,740 Dynamite so he's, there's like, it's I guess, you know, it's 1827 01:47:19,740 --> 01:47:25,020 like, it's like, at this is not it's not even CEUs was like a 1828 01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:30,570 celebrity signature that is just okay. It's hard to explain. It's 1829 01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:33,990 like maybe a baseball player Canada. Ah, okay. Call your 1830 01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:36,780 sprint. Not a lousy one. I like it. Because most baseball 1831 01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:39,450 players if you get any of these, any of these bowls that they 1832 01:47:39,450 --> 01:47:44,610 write they write the name on your ball. They they sometimes 1833 01:47:44,610 --> 01:47:46,860 just scribble I have a 1834 01:47:47,340 --> 01:47:50,940 Adam Curry: autographed picture of Carl jastremski Oh, really? 1835 01:47:50,940 --> 01:47:53,640 Is it? Yeah, it's an I envision that because I know what that 1836 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,130 signature looks like I envision that is kind of like that 1837 01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:56,640 baseball. I 1838 01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,790 John C. Dvorak: don't know. Yeah. But I would say that that 1839 01:47:59,790 --> 01:48:03,870 autographed picture of your strip ski in a good auction at a 1840 01:48:03,900 --> 01:48:07,410 Boston auction would probably fetch 500 bucks really? That was 1841 01:48:07,410 --> 01:48:13,290 my mom's I'm not It's not for sale. Meanwhile, back at the 1842 01:48:13,290 --> 01:48:19,770 ranch, next on the list. Corey Getty New Albany, Indiana 245 We 1843 01:48:19,770 --> 01:48:22,260 have a lot of donors today so people have to get used 1844 01:48:22,260 --> 01:48:24,720 Adam Curry: to this wait a minute wait a minute Who is 1845 01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:25,260 this? 1846 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,830 John C. Dvorak: These knows this? Well, let me read you 1847 01:48:28,830 --> 01:48:32,220 raise a native is a native dating car my southern Indiana 1848 01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:36,690 COVID Hypocrisy update. We asked to leave we were asked to leave 1849 01:48:36,690 --> 01:48:41,610 a grocery store for not wearing a mask. Sheep Give me death 1850 01:48:41,610 --> 01:48:45,780 stares at Walmart for not wearing a mask but I just smile 1851 01:48:45,780 --> 01:48:49,020 back while half the cashiers only have them wrapped around 1852 01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:53,640 their chin Are you my frequent it's smoke friendly bar has 1853 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:57,360 never required a mask and people rolled their eyes now if you 1854 01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:03,210 were one rebels the Indiana rebels people are just wearing 1855 01:49:03,210 --> 01:49:05,550 masks inside their car there they do that around here too 1856 01:49:05,550 --> 01:49:09,660 they're idiots whatever happened to civil disobedience for 1857 01:49:09,660 --> 01:49:13,830 jingles can I get JCD you will obey all phone should be a 1858 01:49:13,830 --> 01:49:18,510 landline and Hillary tech no experts odd selection plus a 1859 01:49:18,510 --> 01:49:19,200 dating karma 1860 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:28,230 Adam Curry: so oh ma second techno experts is I think that's 1861 01:49:28,230 --> 01:49:32,310 more like an end of show but I can play a little bit of it. And 1862 01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:36,300 then I think he means that the Bakelite all phone should be a 1863 01:49:36,300 --> 01:49:38,280 landline Is that Is that what that is? Yeah, that 1864 01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,770 John C. Dvorak: came in you use that as that came that was 1865 01:49:40,770 --> 01:49:49,440 actually the tech grouch. No. Good phones a landline and the 1866 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:51,360 phone should be made out of Bakelite. 1867 01:49:52,290 --> 01:49:55,680 Adam Curry: Yes, yes, you're right. That was the one and only 1868 01:49:55,680 --> 01:50:03,360 tech routes you will obey you will obey you will obey A techno 1869 01:50:05,550 --> 01:50:11,820 man or classic techno experts were who do the jobs karma or 1870 01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:13,140 health carbonating karma 1871 01:50:13,170 --> 01:50:17,490 dating, dating karma dating karma? One more just one more 1872 01:50:17,490 --> 01:50:26,250 hit it with experience. You've got karma kind of in the beat to 1873 01:50:26,730 --> 01:50:28,230 in the groove in the pocket. 1874 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:35,130 John C. Dvorak: DLL word in Evanston, Illinois to 4469 JC de 1875 01:50:35,130 --> 01:50:41,340 summary of Jim Jones was perfect. Yes. The ar e 320. is 1876 01:50:41,340 --> 01:50:45,180 great for eight hours of zoom calls per day. So thanks for the 1877 01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:50,010 tip. Pod father. Yeah, he's de douche me. Well, 1878 01:50:51,630 --> 01:50:53,460 Unknown: you've been reduced. 1879 01:50:55,380 --> 01:50:56,910 John C. Dvorak: You're probably sound a lot better than those 1880 01:50:56,910 --> 01:50:59,580 other people that are. I don't know what you're using the 1881 01:50:59,580 --> 01:51:02,160 apple. I think Mike does on a string. I 1882 01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:05,370 Adam Curry: think you sent me an email Neil did. And he says My 1883 01:51:05,370 --> 01:51:09,090 wife is has to do a lot of zoom calls professionally. I don't 1884 01:51:09,090 --> 01:51:11,970 know she's, you might have been a teacher. And he said, I liked 1885 01:51:11,970 --> 01:51:15,150 the way you sound. What would you recommend and NTI we went 1886 01:51:15,150 --> 01:51:18,000 back and forth one or two. It's like, you know, what kind of 1887 01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,780 client and we talked about it, you could try it. You just give 1888 01:51:21,780 --> 01:51:25,680 her the RV 320. And that's apparently she's, they're happy 1889 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,440 with it. Good. Good to know. Like 1890 01:51:28,440 --> 01:51:31,740 John C. Dvorak: good, as long as you get the money. You're gonna 1891 01:51:31,740 --> 01:51:37,650 need a D to A converter or A to D converter actually, for that 1892 01:51:37,650 --> 01:51:40,620 mic. And there's different brands you can get. They're all 1893 01:51:40,620 --> 01:51:44,400 sound a little different. And the top sounding one according 1894 01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,440 to a lot of people's and when I'm using the 1895 01:51:46,469 --> 01:51:49,589 Adam Curry: PreSonus garlotte or the Scarlett Yes, it's very 1896 01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:52,439 good. Mo uses that too. We actually got it because you had 1897 01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:52,589 it. 1898 01:51:53,070 --> 01:51:54,840 John C. Dvorak: Scarlett Scarlett the problem with the 1899 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:59,280 scarlet unlike M audio and said I don't know did people care 1900 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:03,330 about inside baseball. But compared to like the M audio, 1901 01:52:03,330 --> 01:52:05,940 for example, the M audio and some of these other ones are 1902 01:52:05,940 --> 01:52:09,180 built into Windows. They they've done a deal. I don't know. So 1903 01:52:09,210 --> 01:52:12,360 you just put them on? He's good to go. Yeah, the scarlet needs a 1904 01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:12,870 driver. 1905 01:52:12,900 --> 01:52:17,370 Adam Curry: No. Yeah, yes, you gotta go. Now USB is all messed 1906 01:52:17,370 --> 01:52:18,300 up. That's the problem. So 1907 01:52:18,300 --> 01:52:19,980 John C. Dvorak: you get the driver once you get the driver 1908 01:52:20,130 --> 01:52:22,980 installed in the Scarlet is dynamite, because it has a much 1909 01:52:22,980 --> 01:52:27,540 better sound and pretty much anything. Yeah. All right. Short 1910 01:52:27,540 --> 01:52:32,160 of I don't know what. Okay. Onward with route. Oh, he wants 1911 01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,080 to know, he also wanted to Pelosi close 1912 01:52:34,380 --> 01:52:37,470 Adam Curry: up jobs. Oh, I'm sorry. I did that wrong. Jobs, 1913 01:52:37,470 --> 01:52:38,280 jobs, 1914 01:52:38,340 --> 01:52:43,950 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's her job. 1915 01:52:46,050 --> 01:52:47,070 Karma. There 1916 01:52:47,070 --> 01:52:50,490 Adam Curry: we go. Living on the edge. I want to fess up the jobs 1917 01:52:50,490 --> 01:52:50,910 karma 1918 01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:55,410 John C. Dvorak: Regan Marshall in Burwood. Victoria, Australia 1919 01:52:55,410 --> 01:53:00,450 20. Oh, $4.33. But he gets bumped to executive producer 1920 01:53:00,450 --> 01:53:04,080 because that's actually 333 Aussie dollars. 1921 01:53:04,110 --> 01:53:06,630 Adam Curry: You know, Victoria is also known as Danny Stan. 1922 01:53:09,450 --> 01:53:10,470 John C. Dvorak: Sorry, I didn't know that. 1923 01:53:10,500 --> 01:53:13,650 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the premier, his name is Dan. The 1924 01:53:13,650 --> 01:53:18,660 premier. No, it's Premier. I've put Hey, stop that no one in 1925 01:53:18,660 --> 01:53:23,820 Victoria says Premier. They say Premier, no Premier, Premier 1926 01:53:23,850 --> 01:53:25,110 Premier. No 1927 01:53:25,140 --> 01:53:28,050 John C. Dvorak: greetings from the slavery capital millibar in 1928 01:53:28,050 --> 01:53:33,210 Australia and 14 cars behind it the moment we'll catch up. And I 1929 01:53:33,210 --> 01:53:36,690 know you'd rather skip forward, but I can't miss any of them. 1930 01:53:36,900 --> 01:53:38,430 All the shows have been great. 1931 01:53:38,460 --> 01:53:40,710 Adam Curry: You know, we could be dead by the time she catches 1932 01:53:40,710 --> 01:53:41,100 up, 1933 01:53:41,580 --> 01:53:44,730 John C. Dvorak: if ever. There's been numerous times over the 1934 01:53:44,730 --> 01:53:49,920 last few months where I felt the need to donate. But in show 1266 1935 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:54,870 Adam played a clip from a doctor that outline white aged QC can't 1936 01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:59,400 be in on labeled treatment for COVID 19. Because if it was they 1937 01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:04,830 couldn't fast track a vaccine through the FDA for me. Oh, FDA. 1938 01:54:05,070 --> 01:54:09,150 For me, that was really an aha moment and worth a donation. Oh. 1939 01:54:10,530 --> 01:54:12,780 Well, where's where was that donation? I don't remember. No. 1940 01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:14,640 Well, hold on. It told us at least so that's where she's 1941 01:54:14,670 --> 01:54:16,620 currently caught up to check it out and check it 1942 01:54:16,620 --> 01:54:21,150 Adam Curry: out. This is really good. Because, you know, we're 1943 01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:25,830 way ahead of Danna Stan. Ah. Ah, so, she's 1944 01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:27,930 John C. Dvorak: gonna Dinah You're right. She's 1945 01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:31,410 Adam Curry: just stay in Step. Don't skip ahead. Do it too, 1946 01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:33,870 because you're going to get exactly the reporting that 1947 01:54:33,870 --> 01:54:36,480 you're seeing at that moment, because this is a script. So 1948 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:40,410 we've been through it. Just keep listening. And and get back to 1949 01:54:40,410 --> 01:54:42,720 us and let us know if what we were talking about that was 1950 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,600 happening here in the US isn't happening exactly the same with 1951 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:45,870 you. 1952 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,420 John C. Dvorak: Right. So instead of listening to 1282 1953 01:54:48,420 --> 01:54:51,870 right now, she should be listened to 1267. Right, and let 1954 01:54:51,870 --> 01:54:55,500 us know if that syncs up. I bet you does. Anyway, you've been 1955 01:54:55,500 --> 01:55:00,330 talking about Jesuits. Yes, Fauci is boss. And I I have some 1956 01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:04,500 experience with them. I used to work with underperforming slaves 1957 01:55:04,500 --> 01:55:07,740 and get mowed down under. Basically the whole Australian 1958 01:55:07,770 --> 01:55:12,030 unemployment system is the scam to funnel free labor and vast 1959 01:55:12,030 --> 01:55:17,550 sums of money to churches allegedly. This means I'd have 1960 01:55:17,550 --> 01:55:20,910 sales women I never saw a man once and five years from the 1961 01:55:20,910 --> 01:55:24,600 church from a church. From all the churches coming to my office 1962 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:29,310 to compete for a slice of the slave labor slash free money pie 1963 01:55:29,310 --> 01:55:33,180 from the government. The judge was Jesuits, the biggest 1964 01:55:33,180 --> 01:55:37,920 scammers of any church. He wasn't even close. Most churches 1965 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:42,180 would send in some old woman that's volunteering the Jesuits 1966 01:55:42,180 --> 01:55:46,410 head proper fast talking hard selling brown shoe wearing 1967 01:55:46,410 --> 01:55:50,460 saleswomen, brown shoe then, you know in terms of dollar amounts, 1968 01:55:50,460 --> 01:55:53,820 it was about a 10x price increase to do anything with the 1969 01:55:53,820 --> 01:55:59,010 Jesuits versus a different church. Anyway, long story 1970 01:55:59,010 --> 01:56:02,940 short, every Jesuit I've ever dealt with, which has appeared 1971 01:56:02,940 --> 01:56:08,370 to be a colossal scammer and the Pope being one as well wouldn't 1972 01:56:08,370 --> 01:56:14,190 be a surprise to me. Anyway, I could use a de douching and some 1973 01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:18,270 getting laid karma that jobs too if it's not too many clips, 1974 01:56:18,660 --> 01:56:22,260 Suzie's jobs and getting laid karma but getting laid is more 1975 01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:25,170 important than jobs. And the de douching that's okay, 1976 01:56:25,170 --> 01:56:28,440 Adam Curry: we can do it all in one go for you. It's it's a nice 1977 01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:28,920 combo. 1978 01:56:30,630 --> 01:56:32,130 Unknown: You've been IID do 1979 01:56:32,250 --> 01:56:39,690 jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for 1980 01:56:39,690 --> 01:56:43,740 jobs. You've got karma 1981 01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:52,080 John C. Dvorak: ZZ serverless circles are or surlis depending 1982 01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:56,160 there was actually a professor at Cal with this name. Without 1983 01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:01,890 the s I believe $233.33 In Berkeley and in Berkeley. Hi, 1984 01:57:01,890 --> 01:57:06,660 John and Adam Dvorak. What's up from down the street, San Pablo 1985 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:12,180 Boulevard ze San Pablo Avenue all day every day. lol 1986 01:57:12,180 --> 01:57:15,270 discovered you guys from Curry's first Rogan appearance been 1987 01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:19,860 listening as do shad ever since. Thanks for your hard work 1988 01:57:19,860 --> 01:57:23,550 providing an intelligent take on current events I don't go to I 1989 01:57:23,550 --> 01:57:29,370 don't go I don't go the maths since Corona doesn't go I don't 1990 01:57:29,370 --> 01:57:31,890 know what that means. It doesn't go into MIT I religiously listen 1991 01:57:31,890 --> 01:57:35,580 to your Chaka she doesn't go to church after she's as Catholic 1992 01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:39,600 as maths. After the debate last night I decided it's time for me 1993 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,480 to join the no agenda production community just tweeted you both 1994 01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:46,260 as an article on suggested contract language on how 1995 01:57:46,260 --> 01:57:48,900 employers should deal with cancellation culture events in 1996 01:57:48,900 --> 01:57:52,620 the workplace. I need to see this. I am working on this 1997 01:57:52,620 --> 01:57:57,960 myself. For jingles. Please play the funny don't divorce nuts 1998 01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:03,600 compilation tool along let's go scream goat scream de douching 1999 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:08,100 and anything that brings luck to gamblers and speculators, the 2000 01:58:08,130 --> 01:58:10,590 stock market? Keep doing the work. 2001 01:58:10,740 --> 01:58:12,840 Adam Curry: So did you say deducing in there that I missed 2002 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:13,080 that? 2003 01:58:13,110 --> 01:58:18,390 John C. Dvorak: Yeah, de douching is a de Du de deuced. 2004 01:58:20,340 --> 01:58:24,480 Adam Curry: Just go for John, tell us your peeve about the 2005 01:58:24,660 --> 01:58:27,090 fisting method of eating snacks on an airway. 2006 01:58:27,180 --> 01:58:29,460 John C. Dvorak: I see this on the airplane and it's very 2007 01:58:29,460 --> 01:58:32,430 annoying and I think it will result in in fights breaking out 2008 01:58:32,490 --> 01:58:35,880 because it just so annoying to watch. guy takes his bag of 2009 01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:40,650 peanuts and throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand 2010 01:58:40,650 --> 01:58:48,030 and then he makes a fist around the nuts. And then he shakes his 2011 01:58:48,030 --> 01:58:53,490 fist to try to bring that nut to the little stop. And then he 2012 01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:59,910 throws a nut in his mouth from his bed he does it again. He 2013 01:58:59,910 --> 01:59:05,130 shakes the throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying as hell 2014 01:59:05,130 --> 01:59:07,950 to watch. You've got 2015 01:59:10,830 --> 01:59:11,820 Unknown: a classic 2016 01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:18,570 John C. Dvorak: next time ZZ contributes. We'd like to hear 2017 01:59:18,570 --> 01:59:25,860 the foundations for your names. ZZ SZIZ. I I'd be interested. 2018 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:32,640 Zachariah Chubb is next on the list $233 from Liddell or little 2019 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:38,130 Kansas, I would pronounce it Liddell. But Kansas. They might 2020 01:59:38,130 --> 01:59:40,860 pronounce it little. I've been listening since August when 2021 01:59:40,860 --> 01:59:44,340 taking drives him see my human resource. My best friend. Daniel 2022 01:59:44,340 --> 01:59:47,550 hit me in the mouth in July but didn't stick. But it didn't 2023 01:59:47,550 --> 01:59:51,030 stick until August. I'd like to call him out as a douchebag. 2024 01:59:53,340 --> 01:59:55,470 He's a douchebag for not donating for a long time. The 2025 01:59:55,470 --> 01:59:59,130 money I'm donating is what's left in my retainer, to find out 2026 01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:05,250 am I And the father not turns out I am okay. Thanks for the 2027 02:00:05,250 --> 02:00:08,460 great listening during my long drives every other weekend I 2028 02:00:08,460 --> 02:00:13,740 requested de douching Obama like Cucaracha and a scary bow Jaiden 2029 02:00:13,740 --> 02:00:14,760 and goat karma 2030 02:00:14,790 --> 02:00:31,710 Unknown: you got it you've been deed deuced me NO NO NO NO NO NO 2031 02:00:35,580 --> 02:00:49,110 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO I'm hoping you've got 2032 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:58,230 John C. Dvorak: that those are the kinds of jingles and and a 2033 02:00:58,230 --> 02:01:04,140 show mixes I'd liked better than just doing a hot bed under a 2034 02:01:04,140 --> 02:01:08,070 saying stuff just mentioning it to people out there. 2035 02:01:08,190 --> 02:01:10,890 Adam Curry: Well this is from experts like Kevin Reeves and 2036 02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:15,000 and these these are people who have maybe overboard I don't 2037 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:20,430 know it's and also I think because there's no one was doing 2038 02:01:20,430 --> 02:01:24,450 it about Obama. The we were doing it but and Trump 2039 02:01:24,450 --> 02:01:27,450 everyone's doing some funny song so it's kind of not a challenge 2040 02:01:27,450 --> 02:01:29,640 anymore. I don't know. Maybe it's something to do. 2041 02:01:30,690 --> 02:01:33,270 John C. Dvorak: No challenge for Elizabeth O'Neil to donate 2042 02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:39,570 $222.33 from Coos Bay Oregon. This donation is honor my 2043 02:01:39,570 --> 02:01:46,470 sizzling hot hardworking man, Jeff barbaric barage bearish var 2044 02:01:46,470 --> 02:01:52,230 i ch ich var ich 36th birthday on the fourth. I believe he's on 2045 02:01:52,230 --> 02:01:56,520 the list. Love you, babe. He's wanted to donate for a while but 2046 02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,370 unable to do it. Because he can't start a new business 2047 02:01:59,370 --> 02:02:01,470 because everything they won't let you do anything, especially 2048 02:02:01,470 --> 02:02:05,370 in Oregon. Yes. Thanks for all you guys do, she says. So we'll 2049 02:02:05,370 --> 02:02:11,070 give them a get them a karma? Yeah, absolutely. You've got 2050 02:02:11,310 --> 02:02:19,560 karma. Paul Gabrielson in Arroyo Grande, California $222. I'm 2051 02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:22,050 finally able to ask for an invitation to the roundtable. I 2052 02:02:22,050 --> 02:02:24,960 apologize for how long has this taken? I've been listening since 2053 02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:30,000 your first episodes. Following John from cranky geeks and twit 2054 02:02:30,270 --> 02:02:33,570 you're the only sanity to the ever changing and fragmented 2055 02:02:33,570 --> 02:02:36,390 news cycle. Thank you for your courage and all the hours of 2056 02:02:36,390 --> 02:02:40,440 unbiased and amygdala shrinking commentary. I've always had a 2057 02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:45,930 healthy dose dose of skepticism of the news authority and it is 2058 02:02:45,930 --> 02:02:49,020 reassuring that someone out there thinks and feels the same 2059 02:02:49,020 --> 02:02:53,910 about the news and the world as I do. What would we do without 2060 02:02:53,910 --> 02:02:59,880 you? Please note me as slow. Slow Velo of the Central Coast. 2061 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:04,170 Slow Velo to celebrate my birthday on 10 Three got you on 2062 02:03:04,170 --> 02:03:07,890 that list, too. I can ask her Pelosi Job's car for my wife. We 2063 02:03:07,890 --> 02:03:11,850 just started a new job this week after a COVID lair. She would 2064 02:03:11,850 --> 02:03:16,650 kill me. If you did the Trump jobs. Don't do Trump onto Trump 2065 02:03:16,650 --> 02:03:18,900 Joe favor and then the jingles you'd love to your mac and 2066 02:03:18,900 --> 02:03:21,480 cheese to the climate gate and karma to 2067 02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,160 Adam Curry: all I think we can do that. 2068 02:03:24,450 --> 02:03:29,160 John C. Dvorak: You slaves can get the mac and cheese. Macaroni 2069 02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,190 and Cheese shatter melted together mac and 2070 02:03:32,190 --> 02:03:36,480 Unknown: cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. 2071 02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:41,940 Everybody to the gate to the gate of 2072 02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:51,090 jobs, jobs and jobs. That's tight. 2073 02:03:53,190 --> 02:03:55,710 John C. Dvorak: So Vinnie here has written a note so long that 2074 02:03:55,710 --> 02:03:56,910 you're gonna have to read it. 2075 02:03:57,690 --> 02:04:01,890 Adam Curry: Thanks, Vinnie. What has been you say? I'm a longtime 2076 02:04:01,890 --> 02:04:02,790 listener back Vinny 2077 02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:05,400 John C. Dvorak: big is named Vinnie Vinnie medulla from 2078 02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:10,920 Adam Curry: Brooklyn. No sleep till I'm a longtime listener 2079 02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,160 back from the DSC days and John from twit and cranky geek days. 2080 02:04:14,460 --> 02:04:17,910 I am Oh I know. Of course. I know who Vinnie is I'm visually 2081 02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:22,170 impaired and friends with two other blinks that you may 2082 02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:26,340 remember. Oh, yes. I this these guys did. I always said you get 2083 02:04:26,340 --> 02:04:30,780 out here you Gucchi eyes and they think it's funny. Slow. 2084 02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:33,510 Halton and Kevin Reese that we've just talked about Kevin 2085 02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:36,360 Reese just played a Kevin reefs thing. How about that? Well, I 2086 02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:43,380 hope that that's cosmic somehow random number could be well 2087 02:04:43,410 --> 02:04:46,350 isn't okay. Well, I hope this note and clips make it for 2088 02:04:46,350 --> 02:04:48,570 tomorrow's show because it's both cute and relevant with the 2089 02:04:48,570 --> 02:04:50,910 current political climate. I included a short note on my 2090 02:04:50,910 --> 02:04:54,030 paypal donation, but I know how they sometimes get cut off I 2091 02:04:54,030 --> 02:04:57,900 donated $200 In celebration of Ileana second birthday and of 2092 02:04:57,900 --> 02:05:00,570 course support of the show last night One day we were out 2093 02:05:00,570 --> 02:05:04,170 picking apples. Ah, it's another kid story. Last Monday we were 2094 02:05:04,170 --> 02:05:06,930 out picking apples bread love this with my family, which 2095 02:05:06,930 --> 02:05:10,620 includes my wife and five kids. As we were taking a picture my 2096 02:05:10,650 --> 02:05:13,710 oldest daughter Gabriella was sick trying to get me smile by 2097 02:05:13,710 --> 02:05:19,290 telling me to think of sleepy Joe. She's always on me for not 2098 02:05:19,290 --> 02:05:22,680 smiling naturally. Later that night, we were sleeping. We're 2099 02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:25,020 enjoying some of the apples we brought back when my youngest 2100 02:05:25,020 --> 02:05:29,370 daughter Ilya, Ileana started chanting sleepy Joe sleeping 2101 02:05:29,370 --> 02:05:32,670 show. As soon as I heard this, I quickly recorded it with my 2102 02:05:32,670 --> 02:05:35,790 iPhone and Gabriella responded by saying that I should send the 2103 02:05:35,790 --> 02:05:39,210 clip of Ileana to no agenda. Yep, all my kids tease me about 2104 02:05:39,210 --> 02:05:42,030 being an NA fanboy. But I think they're starting to listen to 2105 02:05:42,030 --> 02:05:44,880 the shows as well while they played in the background. They 2106 02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:49,230 all love the clips and laugh at the no agenda memes with me. Now 2107 02:05:49,230 --> 02:05:53,040 to get my wife on board with the show millio Oh my goodness. It's 2108 02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:58,080 like five kids who are all no agenda kids and him and the wife 2109 02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:04,080 is not on board yet. trouble ahead. So if you had Ileana to 2110 02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,240 the birthday list Yes, she's on it. That would be great. She 2111 02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,420 turned to on September 30. And I zipped up three clips of Ileana 2112 02:06:09,420 --> 02:06:13,110 chanting sleepy Joe ones longer. I included two ISOs that may be 2113 02:06:13,110 --> 02:06:15,930 good end of show possibility. Sorry for the long note. I want 2114 02:06:15,930 --> 02:06:18,420 to provide the context for the show and thanks for all you do 2115 02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:21,690 and deconstruction and insanity of media onslaught. The show 2116 02:06:21,690 --> 02:06:23,850 just keeps getting better. Let's have a listen. 2117 02:06:31,980 --> 02:06:38,940 All right. Let me see. It's very cute. And but I don't think it 2118 02:06:38,940 --> 02:06:40,860 quite matches up to 2119 02:06:40,890 --> 02:06:45,030 Unknown: very fine people on both sides. Yeah. But we 2120 02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:47,220 Adam Curry: do appreciate it. And of course we'll be saying 2121 02:06:47,220 --> 02:06:50,400 happy birthday to Ileana coming up in our second donation. 2122 02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,170 Shawn, thank you very much, Vinnie. 2123 02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:57,300 John C. Dvorak: And there you have it. Onward with we only 2124 02:06:57,300 --> 02:07:01,080 have two left. Chad Miller 200 bucks. And he just says Thanks 2125 02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:04,170 for the reminder to get deduced. Well, let's do it. 2126 02:07:05,850 --> 02:07:07,680 Unknown: You've been reduced. 2127 02:07:08,130 --> 02:07:11,040 John C. Dvorak: He actually technically says fleet. Thanks 2128 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:15,810 for the reminder to d do. Domain Name fleetly fleet hooked him up 2129 02:07:15,810 --> 02:07:20,940 no doubt. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks to fleet, Alex Aldrich in 2130 02:07:20,940 --> 02:07:26,280 Burnsville, Minnesota nuts 200. And it'll be our last Associate 2131 02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:29,160 Executive Producer. Hi, John and Adam, as much as I would hate to 2132 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:34,320 be considered Minnesota nut. I live in Burnsville a couple of 2133 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:38,880 suburbs east of a Shakopee. I think that term is accurate in 2134 02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:42,990 general, you can count me count on me as coming from the Joe 2135 02:07:42,990 --> 02:07:47,970 Rogan experience. Hi, Ruth. I really appreciate immediate 2136 02:07:47,970 --> 02:07:52,770 decomposition decomposition. You both do twice a week. I'll take 2137 02:07:52,770 --> 02:07:57,720 it. I'll take it. Immediate decomposition. The only regret I 2138 02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,170 have is a good show title. The only regret I have as learning 2139 02:08:01,170 --> 02:08:05,550 who Amy Goodman is, I would never have to have heard her 2140 02:08:05,550 --> 02:08:09,570 horrible reporting news. If I had never listened to no agenda 2141 02:08:09,570 --> 02:08:11,940 show, but it's a small price to pay for all the 2142 02:08:12,660 --> 02:08:16,200 Adam Curry: cuts. We may have to reconsider how much Amy you're 2143 02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,470 bringing to the show. It's actually a turn on booth man. 2144 02:08:19,470 --> 02:08:19,620 Come 2145 02:08:19,620 --> 02:08:25,860 John C. Dvorak: on. Man. Give me advice already been thought of 2146 02:08:25,860 --> 02:08:30,780 But conspiracy theory with Adam curry rolls off the tongue 2147 02:08:30,780 --> 02:08:35,670 nicely. It would be a podcast, I would totally check out keep up 2148 02:08:35,670 --> 02:08:36,930 the good work. Keep up the good work. 2149 02:08:38,220 --> 02:08:41,400 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm pretty busy. I'm pretty busy as is. But 2150 02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:43,590 I do appreciate the thought. Absolutely. 2151 02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:47,580 John C. Dvorak: And that is our Associate Executive executive 2152 02:08:47,580 --> 02:08:48,090 producer. It's 2153 02:08:48,090 --> 02:08:50,520 Adam Curry: a long list, but a very good list. And thank you it 2154 02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:52,830 compensates for the previous list which was much shorter. And 2155 02:08:52,830 --> 02:08:55,380 that's how we kind of go through the roller coaster of podcasts 2156 02:08:55,380 --> 02:08:58,260 or life. But we thank you all for your courage and for 2157 02:08:58,260 --> 02:09:03,300 producing episode 1282. It is our birthday month coming up on 2158 02:09:03,300 --> 02:09:06,660 the 26th. So just to remind you about that 13 years many of you 2159 02:09:06,660 --> 02:09:09,570 have been with us. And thank you not just for your treasure here 2160 02:09:09,570 --> 02:09:14,070 the time, talent and treasure, as you're also producing 24 2161 02:09:14,070 --> 02:09:17,160 hours a day. It's phenomenal to see how much great stuff is 2162 02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:20,130 coming in. And all that is equally as valuable and 2163 02:09:20,130 --> 02:09:23,430 appreciated. And that is how our system works with commercials, 2164 02:09:24,180 --> 02:09:27,090 ads, any type of corporate money, we could not be saying 2165 02:09:27,090 --> 02:09:30,570 what we're saying it would not last very long at all. And for 2166 02:09:30,570 --> 02:09:36,240 those who donated under 200. We have a second segment coming up 2167 02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:38,280 for you. And of course these people can use those credits 2168 02:09:38,310 --> 02:09:41,520 Associate Executive Producer and executive producer of the no 2169 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:45,270 agenda show one two ad to put it any way you'd like. If anyone 2170 02:09:45,270 --> 02:09:48,360 questions it would be very happy to vouch for you. Thank you if 2171 02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:54,210 you'd like to support us for the next program, go to wcco.org/n A 2172 02:09:54,210 --> 02:09:56,910 and be very careful with those five year olds or at least 2173 02:09:56,940 --> 02:09:58,200 record them for us. 2174 02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:03,360 Unknown: Our formula is this We go out for people in the mouth 2175 02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:18,810 chefs slave 2176 02:10:21,510 --> 02:10:25,860 Adam Curry: so they have some actual other news going on. Is 2177 02:10:25,860 --> 02:10:29,820 there Yeah, yeah, there is there is some interesting stuff. This 2178 02:10:29,820 --> 02:10:32,640 I thought was very interesting. You know, I've always followed 2179 02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:38,070 the pipelines. I think around cash was an episode 181 or 2180 02:10:38,070 --> 02:10:42,390 something we were talking about to Baku. You recall Baku, 2181 02:10:43,710 --> 02:10:49,320 Azerbaijan, the gas line the gas pipes, the country of Georgia. 2182 02:10:49,590 --> 02:10:52,230 It's always a mess. It's always been a mess. And it's usually 2183 02:10:52,230 --> 02:10:55,470 about oil that's supposed to flow through but now we have 2184 02:10:56,460 --> 02:11:00,390 something else flared up that deals with Azerbaijan. And I 2185 02:11:00,420 --> 02:11:03,000 looked into it because I'm always used to looking at 2186 02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:07,530 Pipeline stuff. And this is the current conflict with Armenia, 2187 02:11:07,710 --> 02:11:11,520 Unknown: new clashes between Armenia and Azerbaijan, over the 2188 02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:15,750 breakaway region of Nagorno Karabakh. This video released by 2189 02:11:15,750 --> 02:11:20,160 the Armenian military purports to show an attack on Azerbaijani 2190 02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:24,630 tanks that Azerbaijan denied any had been destroyed. While 2191 02:11:24,630 --> 02:11:28,410 releasing footage of its own firepower. Each side is blaming 2192 02:11:28,410 --> 02:11:31,590 the other for the flare up and warning of the threat of a 2193 02:11:31,590 --> 02:11:38,040 larger war. These two former Soviet states went to war in the 2194 02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:43,260 early 1990s. Over Nagorno Karabakh, the region sits in 2195 02:11:43,260 --> 02:11:48,300 majority Muslim, Azerbaijan, but its ethnic Armenian population 2196 02:11:48,300 --> 02:11:53,430 of Christians rejected rule from the capital Baku, a ceasefire 2197 02:11:53,430 --> 02:11:58,440 was agreed in 1994. Though never a peace deal. Violence flared 2198 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:03,750 again four years ago, and in July, but Sunday's clashes could 2199 02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:06,390 end up being the most dangerous since the war. 2200 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:11,430 Adam Curry: Now, so this is always been a May I say it a 2201 02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:16,860 problematic region. But now we have air Dhawan, the president 2202 02:12:16,860 --> 02:12:22,590 of Turkey, funding Azerbaijan, the Azerbaijanis against 2203 02:12:22,590 --> 02:12:26,610 Armenia, of course, we have a very old conflict between 2204 02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:31,320 Armenia and and Turkey. So it's about certain terms. So I'm 2205 02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,780 trying to find is there a pipeline being built? Is this 2206 02:12:33,780 --> 02:12:36,780 something new and I can't really find anything I was kind of 2207 02:12:36,780 --> 02:12:39,330 going to let it go, although it's still there. And then then 2208 02:12:39,330 --> 02:12:44,430 I got this email from one of our producers and and I thought that 2209 02:12:44,430 --> 02:12:47,400 was it makes so much sense and it's something that you may be 2210 02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,300 able to comment on. There's a neighborhood market down the 2211 02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:55,050 street from my house and older lady from the Armenian Azhari 2212 02:12:55,050 --> 02:12:58,410 region, owns the building and works the register. Three years 2213 02:12:58,410 --> 02:13:00,870 ago, I asked her where she's from because of the strange 2214 02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:03,840 goods she sold. And because of no agenda, I'm probably the only 2215 02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,120 person in town who has any interest in the region, let 2216 02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:09,300 alone familiar. Two months ago, I asked her about the minor 2217 02:13:09,300 --> 02:13:13,110 border conflicts between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the news, she 2218 02:13:13,170 --> 02:13:17,880 refers to Azerbaijan as azer. Essentially your take was they 2219 02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:23,340 are always shooting it will always be two days ago, I went 2220 02:13:23,340 --> 02:13:28,410 to buy some strange goods. And I asked about the escalation and I 2221 02:13:28,410 --> 02:13:31,860 asked if it was because of the Baku oil fields or pipeline See, 2222 02:13:31,860 --> 02:13:35,100 this is one of it. This is no agenda producer. And she said 2223 02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:39,060 no, no, no, no, no, this is insignificant. It's the grapes. 2224 02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:45,570 It's the grapes. They want the Armenian grapes. And I go look 2225 02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:50,040 in their story after story how Armenian wines are kicking with 2226 02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:54,360 quality and people are loving Armenian wine. Could this be the 2227 02:13:54,810 --> 02:13:57,690 true source of the conflict that they want this region for the 2228 02:13:57,690 --> 02:13:58,440 grapes? 2229 02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:01,860 John C. Dvorak: This sounds pretty far fetched. I 2230 02:14:01,860 --> 02:14:02,850 Adam Curry: like it though. 2231 02:14:04,590 --> 02:14:08,280 John C. Dvorak: Well, I don't know if the it's as which group 2232 02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:08,940 is this as 2233 02:14:08,940 --> 02:14:12,390 Adam Curry: yours? Which sounds rubbish, John. Yeah, as well as 2234 02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:14,820 theirs and the Turks I guess, because the Turks are funding 2235 02:14:14,820 --> 02:14:16,230 Well, the Turks are drinkers. 2236 02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:19,740 John C. Dvorak: You gotta note that I mean, no, when I went to 2237 02:14:19,740 --> 02:14:24,450 Turkey, or drinkers, there drinkers. They have a party 2238 02:14:24,450 --> 02:14:27,930 section of town. It's just dynamite is it's better than the 2239 02:14:27,930 --> 02:14:30,840 one there's one in Athens it's just this whole blocks and 2240 02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:35,010 blocks of nightclubs always Sixth Street. It's one of those 2241 02:14:35,010 --> 02:14:39,870 kinds of places only to the only maxed out is like more extreme 2242 02:14:39,870 --> 02:14:42,420 than anything I've seen in the United States. That includes 2243 02:14:42,630 --> 02:14:48,450 Rush Street back in the day in Chicago, but are the upper upper 2244 02:14:48,510 --> 02:14:52,500 upper avenues in New York did nothing compared to Turkey or 2245 02:14:52,590 --> 02:14:55,770 Athens? And they're but they're drinkers in the first thing when 2246 02:14:55,770 --> 02:14:59,970 I started hanging out this one guy is a rug salesman wishes 2247 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,440 everybody in Turkey. He says we're a Turkish who were Muslims 2248 02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:09,450 who drink he made a very clear to me. And I said, Okay, Tony, 2249 02:15:09,450 --> 02:15:13,110 have you read to this this area? And I wonder if the answers are 2250 02:15:13,110 --> 02:15:16,470 drinkers. That is a possibility. There's something to it at least 2251 02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:20,370 something to them wanting the wine. I mean, well, here's what 2252 02:15:20,370 --> 02:15:23,610 I know anything. Here's what I found on for meaning and wine. 2253 02:15:23,610 --> 02:15:24,540 I've never heard of it. 2254 02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:27,600 Adam Curry: Here's an article from Forbes. Armenian wines 2255 02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:30,450 despite a checkered past look towards a brilliant future in a 2256 02:15:30,450 --> 02:15:34,020 land resembling a cross between rural Utah inland California and 2257 02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:37,710 South Pass Wyoming with a capital city that is safe, 2258 02:15:37,710 --> 02:15:40,680 attractive and progressive. Modern Armenian winemakers are 2259 02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:43,770 diverse and hearty lot. Representative backgrounds 2260 02:15:43,770 --> 02:15:48,150 include that of a Berkeley chef, Melanie's fashion guru, and 2261 02:15:48,150 --> 02:15:51,540 Argentinian infrastructure billionaire, a Moscow MBA 2262 02:15:51,540 --> 02:15:54,810 graduate, and the family of a Bostonian victim of past 2263 02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:59,220 Bolshevik repression. And they're all in the land smaller 2264 02:15:59,220 --> 02:16:01,920 than the country of Belgium or the size of the US state of 2265 02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,860 Delaware. And Vermont combined, has in the past five years seen 2266 02:16:04,860 --> 02:16:08,400 a grueling four day war as well as a separate velvet revolution 2267 02:16:08,580 --> 02:16:12,480 that toppled the government. This is from two years ago, I 2268 02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,540 think Dan was talking about this period also included a drinking 2269 02:16:15,540 --> 02:16:19,380 revolution, where wine bars in the capital of Yerevan blossom, 2270 02:16:19,380 --> 02:16:26,430 10 fold, and 25 new wineries were founded in just 2018. This, 2271 02:16:26,460 --> 02:16:29,460 there's a lot to this Armenian wine, they've got some history 2272 02:16:30,690 --> 02:16:33,000 John C. Dvorak: to get some of this wine and check it out. I'm 2273 02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:36,960 sure. Some of it comes here. Every now and again. It must, 2274 02:16:36,990 --> 02:16:41,400 Adam Curry: it must. But you know, it. I mean, that's, that's 2275 02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,200 a real business. Well, you 2276 02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:44,580 John C. Dvorak: know, the winemaking business 2277 02:16:44,610 --> 02:16:49,980 internationally has blossomed because of because Well, climate 2278 02:16:49,980 --> 02:16:54,180 change has contributed to the quality of wines and in cold 2279 02:16:54,180 --> 02:16:58,170 areas. But the real contributors now climate change, but as these 2280 02:16:58,170 --> 02:17:01,710 international consultants, nah, okay. And there's a bunch of 2281 02:17:01,710 --> 02:17:03,660 them, they come out of Australia, they come out of 2282 02:17:03,660 --> 02:17:07,470 Bordeaux, Bordeaux has got most of them. And they go all over 2283 02:17:07,470 --> 02:17:10,680 the world. And they Dave, there's just these guys, and 2284 02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:13,500 they exist and they do this, you don't do that you do this, you 2285 02:17:13,500 --> 02:17:17,400 don't do that. I'll be back in a month. And then they give you a 2286 02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:20,490 bill and then you come back in a month. So you didn't do this, 2287 02:17:20,490 --> 02:17:22,260 you didn't do that you should have done this. You can do this 2288 02:17:22,260 --> 02:17:24,900 now to fix what you screwed up, you make it go live again, 2289 02:17:24,900 --> 02:17:27,270 right? And they're all over the place. And there's a bunch of 2290 02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:30,750 them, you can name them. They're very, very noteworthy people, 2291 02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:33,810 they come out to the Napa Valley and some of those things a few 2292 02:17:33,810 --> 02:17:37,230 Napa Valley guys go places too, but not as many. Anyways, 2293 02:17:37,260 --> 02:17:41,310 Australia and and Bordeaux. So it's possible that they're 2294 02:17:41,310 --> 02:17:43,890 making a killer product. Who knows, I mean, a lot of has to 2295 02:17:43,890 --> 02:17:44,400 do. Is that a 2296 02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:46,830 Adam Curry: fun killer product? Pun intended, 2297 02:17:46,830 --> 02:17:47,760 John C. Dvorak: hey, 2298 02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:50,910 Adam Curry: Armenia's killer wine. So 2299 02:17:51,509 --> 02:17:54,539 John C. Dvorak: venia makes a tremendous quality wine. 2300 02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:56,940 Adam Curry: All right, I'm not that interested anymore. It was 2301 02:17:56,940 --> 02:17:57,450 really about 2302 02:17:57,990 --> 02:18:02,460 John C. Dvorak: you shouldn't be good bottle of Bollinger you're 2303 02:18:02,460 --> 02:18:03,060 good to go. 2304 02:18:03,629 --> 02:18:06,659 Adam Curry: In a box, preferably. Alright, let's do I 2305 02:18:06,659 --> 02:18:08,939 need to do a little COVID stuff just to catch everybody. 2306 02:18:09,750 --> 02:18:11,820 John C. Dvorak: I wish I had more COVID stuff. 2307 02:18:11,849 --> 02:18:16,139 Adam Curry: I got COVID stuff. Just close up these nodes. Okay, 2308 02:18:16,169 --> 02:18:19,379 well, when I say COVID stuff, obviously, we're talking about 2309 02:18:19,529 --> 02:18:23,429 the case Demick. We're talking about masking up. We're talking 2310 02:18:23,429 --> 02:18:26,339 about a little bit of vaccine stuff. And we also want to be 2311 02:18:26,339 --> 02:18:29,519 let the hell out. Let's start with something that got zero 2312 02:18:29,519 --> 02:18:35,369 news is in case someone, a politician again says Trump 2313 02:18:36,059 --> 02:18:39,389 isn't doing testing or whatever, whatever it is who's saying 2314 02:18:39,389 --> 02:18:43,199 something. Please note that he announced this two days ago. 2315 02:18:43,230 --> 02:18:45,960 Unknown: Thank you for joining us, as we announced a massive 2316 02:18:45,960 --> 02:18:50,490 and groundbreaking expansion in our testing capability of the 2317 02:18:51,060 --> 02:18:53,940 for the China virus. And as you know, it's already setting 2318 02:18:53,940 --> 02:18:57,540 records records like nobody's ever seen before. Last week, we 2319 02:18:57,540 --> 02:19:01,560 crossed a historic milestone, when the United States conducted 2320 02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:08,100 our 100 million test that far more than any other country. And 2321 02:19:08,130 --> 02:19:12,750 not even close, actually, second seems to be India, with 1.5 2322 02:19:12,750 --> 02:19:16,350 billion people and the numbers would be probably at least 50 2323 02:19:16,350 --> 02:19:17,880 million more tests by us. 2324 02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:23,190 Adam Curry: So 150 million rapid tests. These are the 15 minute 2325 02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:25,470 test the ones that everyone's been bitching about, and so 2326 02:19:25,470 --> 02:19:31,260 they're on the way apparently, that is so we're good to go. Now 2327 02:19:31,260 --> 02:19:35,640 on on the testing itself, we still are having some issues 2328 02:19:35,670 --> 02:19:47,760 with verbiage. The media using infected sick we're really a 2329 02:19:47,790 --> 02:19:52,080 test positive test doesn't mean any of that. I've been talking 2330 02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:57,450 with the you know, the PCR experts about the cycles and and 2331 02:19:57,450 --> 02:20:05,340 just a confirmation from the Victoria health office was at 2332 02:20:05,700 --> 02:20:08,250 the Department of Health and Human Services in Victoria, 2333 02:20:08,250 --> 02:20:10,980 Australia. Thank you for your recent query regarding number of 2334 02:20:10,980 --> 02:20:14,010 amplification cycles currently being undertaken in the PCR test 2335 02:20:14,010 --> 02:20:17,490 being used in Victoria, my colleagues advises me just 35 to 2336 02:20:17,490 --> 02:20:21,540 40 amplification cycles. And as we know, that is too high 2337 02:20:21,540 --> 02:20:25,350 because you start picking up stuff that doesn't mean you're 2338 02:20:25,350 --> 02:20:28,890 necessarily infected at all. And I figured it out now with our 2339 02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:33,990 anonymous bio informat, Titian we are talking about the same 2340 02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:39,090 thing. The PCR, people just want you to know that it is very, 2341 02:20:39,090 --> 02:20:43,980 very, very accurate but not precise. And this, this is the 2342 02:20:43,980 --> 02:20:48,960 difference. And I had to learn this accurate if you if you see 2343 02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:52,380 a target, and you're shooting arrows at the target, and you 2344 02:20:52,380 --> 02:20:55,800 kind of hit that, you know, you're you're accurate. When you 2345 02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:58,620 shoot all the arrows right in the bullseye and it's splitting 2346 02:20:58,620 --> 02:21:01,950 one open then you're precise. So as as the difference in 2347 02:21:01,950 --> 02:21:07,980 terminology is important. But the bottom line and and all 2348 02:21:07,980 --> 02:21:12,570 dentists agree. PCR test does not tell us enough information 2349 02:21:12,570 --> 02:21:16,260 about the virus and the infectivity in people, which is 2350 02:21:16,260 --> 02:21:19,260 of course the component that's been leading to shutdowns in 2351 02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:24,180 infectivity. infectivity. Yeah, it's not even the spellchecker 2352 02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:29,040 doesn't like that word. It's not a real word, apparently. 2353 02:21:30,540 --> 02:21:32,820 John C. Dvorak: But they will they come up with these bogus 2354 02:21:32,820 --> 02:21:37,470 words, constantly Bogota, if the infected they like was not a 2355 02:21:37,470 --> 02:21:40,080 negative thing. So no, no, no, stop Bogota? No, but 2356 02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:42,360 Adam Curry: I it's interesting, you say that because it has 2357 02:21:42,360 --> 02:21:47,040 little squiggly red underline, the infectivity is lost. Because 2358 02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:51,180 the PCR test is not a good reflection of disease progress. 2359 02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:55,200 It's not a reflection of an active virus. Thus, we still do 2360 02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:59,010 not have a good picture as to why people get sick, whether 2361 02:21:59,010 --> 02:22:01,830 asymptomatic people have different disease progression, 2362 02:22:02,100 --> 02:22:07,440 or when the rise of infection ceases. So it is accurate, but 2363 02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:10,500 not precise. And now there's study after study. And this is 2364 02:22:10,500 --> 02:22:14,130 that the NIH provided and peer reviewed already not a pre 2365 02:22:14,130 --> 02:22:18,810 flight pre thing. viral loads and COVID-19 infected patients 2366 02:22:18,810 --> 02:22:26,490 drop along with the death rate. It's no longer as loaded with 2367 02:22:26,490 --> 02:22:29,430 via they don't it doesn't have the full load anymore, which is 2368 02:22:29,430 --> 02:22:32,910 why you can have this case Demick which is giving you 2369 02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:35,550 basically false positives if you're talking about someone 2370 02:22:35,550 --> 02:22:37,980 being sick or infected. It's just nice. Yes. 2371 02:22:37,980 --> 02:22:40,860 John C. Dvorak: Over there. Yes. You just open up the country. 2372 02:22:42,480 --> 02:22:47,850 Adam Curry: Yeah. So in, in Ontario, the now went into stage 2373 02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:52,140 four red alert, that is level I'm sorry, level four red alert, 2374 02:22:52,140 --> 02:22:57,330 Red Alert. And if here's what they say, more restrictive 2375 02:22:57,330 --> 02:23:01,200 measures. So now in Quebec, it's red alert. 2376 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:03,330 John C. Dvorak: Hey, they weren't this restricted when it 2377 02:23:03,330 --> 02:23:06,090 was a real problem. And that thing was spiking. And we had to 2378 02:23:06,090 --> 02:23:06,990 flatten the curve. 2379 02:23:07,050 --> 02:23:10,680 Adam Curry: Do you need to shut up? Oh, no. Oh, no. What curves? 2380 02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:11,640 Did you want to flatten? 2381 02:23:12,750 --> 02:23:13,860 John C. Dvorak: The original curve? 2382 02:23:13,890 --> 02:23:15,150 Adam Curry: What was the original curve? 2383 02:23:15,690 --> 02:23:18,060 John C. Dvorak: It was the death date. It was like the normal 2384 02:23:18,060 --> 02:23:21,540 curve to get for these diseases. It goes way up. And we had to 2385 02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:26,370 send Mercy Ships in from the government and we had to, we had 2386 02:23:26,370 --> 02:23:30,180 to close down Jacob Javits Center and make it available for 2387 02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:35,130 cases they had the debate stage was a place where they had to 2388 02:23:35,130 --> 02:23:38,160 close it down and put to bed ZAN. 2389 02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:42,480 Adam Curry: All right. So here's the the premier, because it's 2390 02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:46,950 Canada, of Ontario taken live phone calls during his little 2391 02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:51,540 Cuomo esque Stand Up Show. And it caller calls in with a 2392 02:23:51,540 --> 02:23:55,290 question about something the premier just said, and the head 2393 02:23:55,290 --> 02:23:57,600 of health services, which is another one of these fine 2394 02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:00,930 specimens. John will answer this question. 2395 02:24:01,740 --> 02:24:04,110 It's a he but got it but the guy's dead. 2396 02:24:04,740 --> 02:24:07,770 Unknown: Before it says that we know that the second wave is 2397 02:24:07,770 --> 02:24:10,800 going to be worse than the first wave. Could you tell me in what 2398 02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:12,060 way it will be worse? 2399 02:24:12,330 --> 02:24:16,320 So I think the potential is that it can be worse. Right now we're 2400 02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:20,250 on the upward slope of the second wave. I think the premier 2401 02:24:20,250 --> 02:24:22,320 what he's alluding to is the fact that who do we know it's 2402 02:24:22,320 --> 02:24:26,370 the the so called undulating waves that we've seen in some of 2403 02:24:26,370 --> 02:24:28,710 the modules? how big those are, we have to see, 2404 02:24:29,279 --> 02:24:32,609 Adam Curry: I just I just he got this listen to what he says. And 2405 02:24:32,609 --> 02:24:35,249 it starts with the undulating waves, 2406 02:24:35,279 --> 02:24:38,189 Unknown: the so called undulating waves that we've seen 2407 02:24:38,189 --> 02:24:41,909 in some of the modules, how big those are, we have to see, we 2408 02:24:41,909 --> 02:24:44,069 always see it better after we have some time to look at the 2409 02:24:44,069 --> 02:24:48,209 test results. If it is that more tsunami type wave, it will be 2410 02:24:48,209 --> 02:24:51,269 far worse than the first wave as we've seen in other countries. 2411 02:24:51,509 --> 02:24:54,419 how big this wave is going to be because already we've seen some 2412 02:24:54,419 --> 02:24:57,119 test results that are equivalent to what our maximum daily 2413 02:24:57,119 --> 02:25:00,209 amounts were in the first wave. But as I said before, in that 2414 02:25:00,209 --> 02:25:03,479 time, the maximum test we're doing today, around that highest 2415 02:25:03,479 --> 02:25:07,259 peak was around about 10,000 tests. We're doing 41 to 43,000 2416 02:25:07,259 --> 02:25:10,079 at the moment. So it's a different curve, different 2417 02:25:10,079 --> 02:25:14,699 epidemic. So right now we're anticipating that keeps going, 2418 02:25:14,789 --> 02:25:17,399 we have to assume it could be a lot worse than the first wave, 2419 02:25:17,639 --> 02:25:20,489 especially if it's the second scenario. That's the more the 2420 02:25:20,489 --> 02:25:23,279 tsunami one. But so far, it doesn't seem to be going that 2421 02:25:23,279 --> 02:25:26,849 way. We'd like to hope that we can keep on top of this and hear 2422 02:25:26,849 --> 02:25:29,639 recommendations from myself and others medical offices around 2423 02:25:29,639 --> 02:25:33,509 the province to really focus down now we really have to 2424 02:25:33,509 --> 02:25:37,439 hunker down and stay down to see if we can flatten the curve like 2425 02:25:37,439 --> 02:25:38,279 we did the first time. 2426 02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:41,910 Adam Curry: People here he lies, he lies. He says he just 2427 02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:44,220 explained we had to flatten the curve, because everyone was 2428 02:25:44,220 --> 02:25:46,980 dying in the hospital. And now we have to flatten the same 2429 02:25:46,980 --> 02:25:48,780 curve, no lie. Because down 2430 02:25:48,780 --> 02:25:51,660 Unknown: now we really have to hunker down and stay at the task 2431 02:25:51,690 --> 02:25:54,090 to see if we can flatten this curve, like we did the first 2432 02:25:54,090 --> 02:25:56,820 time. People have gotten very well, I think at the end of 2433 02:25:56,820 --> 02:26:01,170 summer, early fall. And we've seen that effect. But I think by 2434 02:26:01,170 --> 02:26:03,510 everybody refocusing, and we have some ideas and suggestions 2435 02:26:03,540 --> 02:26:07,560 that we can turn this on around. So hopefully as not the 2436 02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:10,050 Premier's fears, we might be able to flatten it down. And it 2437 02:26:10,050 --> 02:26:13,680 may not be worse, but we cannot be presumptive on that basis. 2438 02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:16,740 Adam Curry: Okay. He just said absolutely nothing other than 2439 02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:22,380 Shut up slave and stay home and mask up. And did I mentioned 2440 02:26:22,380 --> 02:26:27,870 Shut up slave. It's, it's atrocious. And here's what's 2441 02:26:27,870 --> 02:26:31,830 coming. Because it's starting in the UK, you need to have the 2442 02:26:31,830 --> 02:26:35,910 app. Now we've all been laughing about the app. But now if you if 2443 02:26:35,910 --> 02:26:41,460 you have a test within the NHS, it shows up in your app and your 2444 02:26:41,460 --> 02:26:47,370 green or your red. This is welcome to your future. First, 2445 02:26:47,370 --> 02:26:51,060 there was some controversy, because if you took a test 2446 02:26:51,090 --> 02:26:56,070 outside of the NHS system, that number was not recognized by the 2447 02:26:56,070 --> 02:27:00,540 app. So you still had to go back into the NHS to get tested. So 2448 02:27:00,540 --> 02:27:05,250 you need to have a smartphone with this app. And here's a 2449 02:27:05,250 --> 02:27:12,240 tweet thread that was out in the in the social sphere from a 2450 02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:18,420 pensioner an older person in the UK, who I guess went to a maybe 2451 02:27:18,420 --> 02:27:23,400 a soup kitchen but it some government provided a meal. And 2452 02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:27,000 he tweets the following last night I was denied a meal, 2453 02:27:27,180 --> 02:27:31,560 because I didn't have the government phone app. You may 2454 02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:34,320 think I'm being overdramatic. But you must now get the point. 2455 02:27:34,320 --> 02:27:37,380 What else are we soon going to be denied access to unless we 2456 02:27:37,380 --> 02:27:40,800 have the government phone app? Please, please, please people 2457 02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:47,310 wake up. So who's running the app? And who's running the 2458 02:27:47,310 --> 02:27:54,120 system? The company is known as Surco. Does this ring a bell? 2459 02:27:55,290 --> 02:28:00,960 Spell it? S E r c o British firm. The first time we heard 2460 02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:06,150 about Serco was when Obama administration paid them $1.2 2461 02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:11,970 billion to build the Obama Care website. Oh, this these guys 2462 02:28:11,970 --> 02:28:18,510 were the billion dollar guys. And and the Gates Foundation 2463 02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:29,160 invested in Surco as they run the UK prisons, not just the UK 2464 02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:31,590 prisons I think they might even run some don't they run some of 2465 02:28:31,590 --> 02:28:33,090 the US prisons as well. 2466 02:28:34,470 --> 02:28:36,990 John C. Dvorak: I don't know Surco is running prisons. But 2467 02:28:37,020 --> 02:28:39,240 yeah, they may have some relation Surco 2468 02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:42,840 Adam Curry: runs Surco runs six for profit prisons in the UK, 2469 02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:45,750 all of which are nearly filled to capacity. This from the 2470 02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:49,290 Seattle Times Britain holds a bigger proportion of inmates in 2471 02:28:49,290 --> 02:28:52,200 for profit for profit prisons than any other country except 2472 02:28:52,200 --> 02:28:55,320 Australia. And the market is dominated by three countries or 2473 02:28:55,320 --> 02:29:02,340 three companies Serco, g4 s and Sodexo. In January Serco was 2474 02:29:02,340 --> 02:29:06,990 handed a 1.9 billion okay, but the headline of this story is 2475 02:29:06,990 --> 02:29:12,360 Gates Foundation Trust up stake in UK prison firm. So the people 2476 02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:17,790 who brought you the Coronavirus I mean, the vaccine and China 2477 02:29:17,790 --> 02:29:22,050 whatever invested in the company that is now forcing you to have 2478 02:29:22,050 --> 02:29:27,090 a shitty app otherwise you don't get fed. This is this is 2479 02:29:27,090 --> 02:29:28,860 cynical, crazy stuff. 2480 02:29:29,280 --> 02:29:34,320 John C. Dvorak: Well, you know the solution is dude named Ben 2481 02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:40,650 hacker. Yeah. It's it's, there's workarounds. I mean, if you 2482 02:29:40,650 --> 02:29:41,700 don't want very 2483 02:29:41,940 --> 02:29:44,910 Adam Curry: easy, it's very easy. You just have an overlay 2484 02:29:44,910 --> 02:29:52,530 on your screen. Have a terror printed overlay. It's just a 2485 02:29:52,530 --> 02:29:55,800 little have a little little red or whatever. the.is Whatever you 2486 02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:59,970 need, and you can replicate your own barcode or your own QR code. 2487 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,970 odor, whatever it is. Yeah, I think it's worth trying. 2488 02:30:03,540 --> 02:30:06,960 John C. Dvorak: But this shouldn't be gone this far to 2489 02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:07,680 begin with? 2490 02:30:07,860 --> 02:30:08,970 Adam Curry: Of course not. 2491 02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:11,880 John C. Dvorak: Of course ridiculous now and here's a good 2492 02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:12,630 catch. By the way. 2493 02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:14,550 Adam Curry: Here's one of the more we got great producers, 2494 02:30:14,550 --> 02:30:16,410 man. Here's one of the Inuit 2495 02:30:16,410 --> 02:30:16,740 John C. Dvorak: den. 2496 02:30:19,980 --> 02:30:21,420 Adam Curry: What are you talking about? 2497 02:30:21,630 --> 02:30:22,890 John C. Dvorak: Not then go on camera. 2498 02:30:23,189 --> 02:30:25,949 Adam Curry: So here's what just happened. You said great catch. 2499 02:30:25,949 --> 02:30:28,739 I said one of our producers did it giving credit where credit's 2500 02:30:28,739 --> 02:30:31,829 due and your response to that as well. You didn't do it, Danny? 2501 02:30:31,889 --> 02:30:33,569 Yeah, what's wrong with you? 2502 02:30:34,529 --> 02:30:37,109 John C. Dvorak: Hey, Okay, keep going. I told you to keep going. 2503 02:30:37,109 --> 02:30:40,139 But no, you go back, you go back. Instead of just keep 2504 02:30:40,139 --> 02:30:43,769 going. You go back to ridicule me with that whiny voice said 2505 02:30:43,769 --> 02:30:46,319 you do which is an imitation of my voice. But as I don't really 2506 02:30:46,319 --> 02:30:49,949 sound like that. But you couldn't resist? Because like to 2507 02:30:49,949 --> 02:30:54,119 mock me? Well, yeah, you're mocking me just the way Chris 2508 02:30:54,119 --> 02:30:55,889 Wallace. Yes, it does. 2509 02:30:55,920 --> 02:30:59,460 Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. In fact, if you hit me, I hit you. 10 2510 02:30:59,460 --> 02:31:05,820 times harder. All right, speakers corner in the UK. We've 2511 02:31:05,820 --> 02:31:09,390 talked about speakers corner in the UK for many, many years. It 2512 02:31:09,390 --> 02:31:13,290 is the place where you can go stand that you can, as you can 2513 02:31:13,290 --> 02:31:16,770 say whatever you want. That is where democracy lives, free 2514 02:31:16,770 --> 02:31:21,690 speech. That's not where free speech lives. And I think on the 2515 02:31:21,690 --> 02:31:24,420 last trip that you keep her and I took we went to London, 2516 02:31:24,450 --> 02:31:26,520 John C. Dvorak: was there any? You know, I've been to Speaker's 2517 02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:28,920 Corner a million times. There's never anybody. There's some 2518 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:29,970 socialist. 2519 02:31:30,300 --> 02:31:32,520 Adam Curry: Well, there was nobody there. And I remember 2520 02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:35,250 that's more like it. But I remember going when I was 15. 2521 02:31:36,060 --> 02:31:39,240 And I remember my dad taking me and it was very impressive, 2522 02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:41,400 because there were definitely people standing then. So let's 2523 02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:45,600 do 40 years ago. We went recently there was no one there. 2524 02:31:47,250 --> 02:31:52,050 However, this past Conference this past weekend of the past 2525 02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:59,340 few days, Dr. Heiko shootin key is the Doctor Who invited Robert 2526 02:31:59,340 --> 02:32:05,040 Kennedy Jr. to Berlin to do the big speech about the lockdown. 2527 02:32:05,580 --> 02:32:11,520 He was standing there. And he got arrested. Why they arrested 2528 02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:15,960 him from Speaker's Corner for standing there and speaking. 2529 02:32:17,220 --> 02:32:18,270 They arrested him. 2530 02:32:18,810 --> 02:32:20,970 John C. Dvorak: What is wrong with the British public? 2531 02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:26,160 Adam Curry: Now there they are completely under lock and key. 2532 02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:30,300 Are you kidding me? They can't You can't do crap in the UK. And 2533 02:32:30,300 --> 02:32:33,390 here's Dr. Heiko, who took advantage of the moment to 2534 02:32:33,390 --> 02:32:36,360 promote the book that he was probably promoting smart. 2535 02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:38,580 John C. Dvorak: I mean, he got lucky by getting arrested by 2536 02:32:38,580 --> 02:32:38,790 well 2537 02:32:38,790 --> 02:32:42,900 Unknown: they seize my telephone. My Computer, lost the 2538 02:32:42,900 --> 02:32:51,630 book Coronavirus, false alarm from Professor corvina rice and 2539 02:32:51,630 --> 02:32:57,690 Professor suka right bhakti. They see stuff. So you see here. 2540 02:32:59,790 --> 02:33:03,570 They're afraid, they are afraid of what they afraid they will 2541 02:33:03,570 --> 02:33:08,280 get in contact. So they see some mobile phones. They afraid of 2542 02:33:08,280 --> 02:33:12,750 the booths. Because scientifically, all things are 2543 02:33:12,750 --> 02:33:17,520 laid down. And the good thing is this firm is not only published 2544 02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:23,430 in German, it's now published in English COVID-19 False alarm. 2545 02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:29,190 And this book has been the number one books bestseller. And 2546 02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:32,010 hopefully, this will be the same 2547 02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:36,600 Adam Curry: in Great Britain. So he's smart. He got that done. 2548 02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:39,150 You got that out. And I think you're right is probably the 2549 02:33:39,150 --> 02:33:43,710 best thing. But it was weird. There's been audible video 2550 02:33:43,710 --> 02:33:48,660 footage of him getting hustled and getting arrested. So I'm not 2551 02:33:48,660 --> 02:33:51,210 quite sure how that's a weird thing for them to do. 2552 02:33:52,140 --> 02:33:56,970 John C. Dvorak: It was dumb. But you know, so I still kind of 2553 02:33:56,970 --> 02:34:00,780 revisit the lib Jos Oh, and you know who wants to? Well, this 2554 02:34:00,780 --> 02:34:03,390 I'm about talking to you again. Are they talking to you? Well, 2555 02:34:03,390 --> 02:34:05,700 they always talk to me but you know, it's kind of mostly about 2556 02:34:05,700 --> 02:34:08,730 basketball. And you're not getting 2557 02:34:09,330 --> 02:34:12,120 Adam Curry: Man United in black vote. 2558 02:34:14,340 --> 02:34:18,690 John C. Dvorak: So I bring up one of the did an article on a 2559 02:34:18,690 --> 02:34:21,180 show I follow these graphs, I put them in the newsletter all 2560 02:34:21,180 --> 02:34:23,520 the time. You know, this shows the big curve that had to be 2561 02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:26,640 flat and it was then it went down and there's a little bump, 2562 02:34:26,910 --> 02:34:28,920 which maybe this you know the second way is a little bump and 2563 02:34:28,920 --> 02:34:32,160 then it's pretty much collapsed, where there's nothing going on. 2564 02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:36,510 For all practical Berea somebody gets COVID Now and again and but 2565 02:34:36,510 --> 02:34:39,450 it's like you said just a minute ago, there's symptoms aren't the 2566 02:34:39,450 --> 02:34:42,330 same anymore. People aren't dying and they're dropping dead. 2567 02:34:42,780 --> 02:34:46,260 There's a Yeah, somebody died. I mean, I don't want to you know, 2568 02:34:46,260 --> 02:34:49,500 this is not the point. And I just throw this in every so 2569 02:34:49,500 --> 02:34:52,530 often and then they're all out by but they come back with all 2570 02:34:52,530 --> 02:34:55,680 kinds of reasons all you know, but it'd be even more fearful. 2571 02:34:56,070 --> 02:35:00,270 And I've convinced isn't these liberals because we're Talking 2572 02:35:00,270 --> 02:35:06,180 about they're not insincere. Now they mean they're not like we 2573 02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:09,240 like to almost imagine as bastards they want to shut down 2574 02:35:09,240 --> 02:35:12,630 the economy. Oh, no, no, no trump, screw Trump. This will 2575 02:35:12,630 --> 02:35:16,920 screw Trump and let's go for it. No, they're dead serious. 2576 02:35:16,980 --> 02:35:21,030 They're, they've convinced themselves. It's a really 2577 02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:24,240 sickness. Well, have you why want to be holed up? 2578 02:35:24,270 --> 02:35:27,180 Adam Curry: Have you watched CNN, MSNBC or read the New York 2579 02:35:27,180 --> 02:35:29,700 Times or Washington Post recently? There's plenty of 2580 02:35:29,700 --> 02:35:32,520 stories that run there. They give you every single reason to 2581 02:35:32,520 --> 02:35:33,300 be fearful. 2582 02:35:35,700 --> 02:35:37,830 John C. Dvorak: These guys are they're shaking in their own 2583 02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:40,980 boots. And they don't even realize they've been had 2584 02:35:41,730 --> 02:35:46,230 Adam Curry: the academics, the professors, the worst, the lip 2585 02:35:46,230 --> 02:35:46,860 Joes, 2586 02:35:47,070 --> 02:35:51,960 John C. Dvorak: yeah. Really, it says it's, I wouldn't say as 2587 02:35:51,960 --> 02:35:55,260 depressing as something kind of funny about it. I mean, you get 2588 02:35:55,260 --> 02:35:58,680 kind of a kick out of it. Wow. Because there's, you know, 2589 02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:02,760 there's so everything, there's just wringing their hands and 2590 02:36:02,760 --> 02:36:05,700 worried sick and worried about that third wave or whatever 2591 02:36:05,700 --> 02:36:07,110 they're worried about, I don't even know, 2592 02:36:07,140 --> 02:36:09,420 Adam Curry: but maybe they're worried, maybe send this clip to 2593 02:36:09,420 --> 02:36:12,900 them, because that'll help them? I don't know, I have a 2594 02:36:14,880 --> 02:36:16,860 John C. Dvorak: I don't care what it is. Oh, okay. 2595 02:36:16,860 --> 02:36:18,630 Adam Curry: Well, then listen to it. And just it's only 16 2596 02:36:18,630 --> 02:36:21,060 seconds, but I kind of have to tell you what to listen for. 2597 02:36:21,180 --> 02:36:26,400 Because it was a hot mic off mic recording. This is Governor 2598 02:36:26,430 --> 02:36:31,320 Wolf. And Representative Ohlman of Pennsylvania, they were doing 2599 02:36:32,070 --> 02:36:35,670 some kind of briefing together the both the Democratic Party 2600 02:36:36,090 --> 02:36:43,650 politicians, and Ohlman. I think that the governor says a you 2601 02:36:43,650 --> 02:36:46,050 know, I'm going to take my mask off when I come up to the mic. 2602 02:36:46,350 --> 02:36:50,250 And then Ohlman the representative says, I think 2603 02:36:50,250 --> 02:36:53,280 that's what is says, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I'm gonna do the same 2604 02:36:53,280 --> 02:36:56,250 thing. It's really I want to create some political theater. 2605 02:36:56,310 --> 02:36:56,880 Check it out. 2606 02:37:01,710 --> 02:37:02,670 Unknown: I'm gonna take my 2607 02:37:07,680 --> 02:37:15,240 Adam Curry: word on camera. Hey, Kimberly here and I'm sure but 2608 02:37:15,300 --> 02:37:17,730 John C. Dvorak: at dylib Joe's would have said well, yeah, 2609 02:37:17,730 --> 02:37:20,850 that's what they were doing. They were just political. To do 2610 02:37:20,850 --> 02:37:23,010 it. What's got to do with me, I'm gonna die of COVID 2611 02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:26,250 Adam Curry: Well, here is some good news when they take the 2612 02:37:26,250 --> 02:37:29,310 vaccine and I'll tell you in advance John, I didn't find this 2613 02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:32,190 myself. So just so you know, um, but I'm going to relay it 2614 02:37:32,190 --> 02:37:32,760 anyway. I 2615 02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:34,590 John C. Dvorak: usually you know, here's the thing. Usually 2616 02:37:34,590 --> 02:37:36,930 I say a producer sent me I said right at the beginning you 2617 02:37:36,930 --> 02:37:39,630 didn't do that with that other clip. I had to ask her said Good 2618 02:37:39,630 --> 02:37:40,620 find good catch. 2619 02:37:40,890 --> 02:37:43,200 Adam Curry: No, you didn't ask me you complimented me and I 2620 02:37:43,200 --> 02:37:46,560 said no, that was not me. I didn't I didn't impress 2621 02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:49,170 John C. Dvorak: you be harping on this you know, like just like 2622 02:37:49,170 --> 02:37:54,150 Biden here. Go just give us the clip. I don't need all this 2623 02:37:54,210 --> 02:37:55,590 disaggregation there's no 2624 02:37:55,590 --> 02:38:00,450 Adam Curry: clip I'm going to tell you something. You need all 2625 02:38:00,450 --> 02:38:03,300 this aggravates your your a piece of work, man. All right, 2626 02:38:03,300 --> 02:38:06,420 come on. Your dog 2627 02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:09,630 John C. Dvorak: come the sit, 2628 02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:13,470 Adam Curry: the Federal Register, which is where laws 2629 02:38:13,470 --> 02:38:17,640 and rules etc. Show up which is monitored very closely by many 2630 02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:20,910 producers who listen to the show, found out that there will 2631 02:38:20,910 --> 02:38:27,150 be a COVID vaccine compensation fund for the for people who get 2632 02:38:27,150 --> 02:38:31,470 hurt. It is it is known as the countermeasures Injury 2633 02:38:31,470 --> 02:38:36,450 Compensation Program. I'm reading from the section 319 f 2634 02:38:36,450 --> 02:38:39,600 dash four authorizes the countermeasures Injury 2635 02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:44,040 Compensation Program cicp. To provide benefits to eligible 2636 02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:47,520 individuals who sustained a serious physical injury or die 2637 02:38:47,550 --> 02:38:51,630 live Joe's or die as a direct result of the administration or 2638 02:38:51,630 --> 02:38:57,630 use of a covered countermeasure COVID E. G, a vaccine 2639 02:38:57,990 --> 02:39:01,500 compensation under the cicp. For an injury directly caused by a 2640 02:39:01,500 --> 02:39:05,070 covered countermeasure is based on the requirements set forth in 2641 02:39:05,070 --> 02:39:07,620 this declaration, the administrative rules for the 2642 02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:10,800 program and the statute to show direct causation between a 2643 02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:13,620 covered countermeasure and a serious physical injury. The 2644 02:39:13,620 --> 02:39:18,450 statute requires compelling, reliable, valid medical and 2645 02:39:18,450 --> 02:39:22,650 scientific evidence. And these courts exist, these compensation 2646 02:39:22,650 --> 02:39:25,920 programs already exist. There are hundreds of millions of 2647 02:39:25,920 --> 02:39:26,730 dollars to get paid. I 2648 02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:28,770 John C. Dvorak: guess the point I'm going to ask them to ask you 2649 02:39:28,770 --> 02:39:32,190 a question then we already they already exist. There's already a 2650 02:39:32,190 --> 02:39:36,060 giant fund for vaccines. Why do we have a second fund? 2651 02:39:36,990 --> 02:39:40,560 Adam Curry: I don't know. No, it's It's being added to the 2652 02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:43,560 countermeasures Injury Compensation Program. And I 2653 02:39:43,560 --> 02:39:46,530 think it's been added and I'll tell you why. I think it's been 2654 02:39:46,530 --> 02:39:48,870 added because of the description I just read. 2655 02:39:51,960 --> 02:39:54,330 John C. Dvorak: It has adding more money to the bullet a 2656 02:39:54,330 --> 02:39:55,620 billion dollar fund. 2657 02:39:57,270 --> 02:40:01,170 Adam Curry: Now they're allowing more people access to it. But 2658 02:40:01,620 --> 02:40:05,010 they're very clear in saying the statute requires compelling, 2659 02:40:05,010 --> 02:40:08,790 reliable, valid medical and scientific evidence. There's 2660 02:40:08,790 --> 02:40:11,790 none of that there won't be any of that for a COVID vaccine for 2661 02:40:11,790 --> 02:40:15,750 decades. Maybe you have to go study, why did you die? You 2662 02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:19,470 know, well, we don't really know. Is that compelling? No. Is 2663 02:40:19,470 --> 02:40:22,920 that reliable knows that valid? No, but I think if you're given 2664 02:40:22,920 --> 02:40:25,650 John C. Dvorak: a shot and you drop dead right there, 2665 02:40:26,430 --> 02:40:33,720 Adam Curry: that's compelling. Valid, my point would be, I 2666 02:40:33,720 --> 02:40:38,160 think they are setting up to not give people money from the fund. 2667 02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:41,640 That's what if that's 2668 02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:43,650 John C. Dvorak: the case. Okay. Right. Let's go with that. And 2669 02:40:43,650 --> 02:40:45,900 that's what if that's the case, that means there's has to be 2670 02:40:45,900 --> 02:40:48,780 extracted somehow for the benefit of somebody's deep 2671 02:40:48,780 --> 02:40:52,740 pockets? Well, good luck. How can you get the money in there 2672 02:40:52,740 --> 02:40:55,920 and then somehow steal it? I don't know. 2673 02:40:57,780 --> 02:41:03,120 Adam Curry: And the United Arab Emirates has approved a Chinese 2674 02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:07,530 made Coronavirus vaccine for emergency use. And I received a 2675 02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:11,280 foreword of an email from an American contractor could be 2676 02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:15,000 military could be non military non Sure. And they are required 2677 02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:20,010 by the UAE to sign up and volunteer first. Making their 2678 02:41:20,010 --> 02:41:23,730 life making their for sign up to volunteer 2679 02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:27,480 John C. Dvorak: country doing business making money, take the 2680 02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:27,930 shot, 2681 02:41:27,960 --> 02:41:32,790 Adam Curry: take the shot people. It's very good. And as 2682 02:41:32,790 --> 02:41:37,680 expected in the Netherlands, looks like the first and second 2683 02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:40,560 houses of parliament are in agreement. Immediately the 2684 02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:46,020 entire country should be wearing masks everywhere all the time. 2685 02:41:46,140 --> 02:41:48,510 And this does not preclude social distancing, you still 2686 02:41:48,510 --> 02:41:52,800 need to stay a metre and a half away from anybody else. So 2687 02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:54,090 that's going just fine. 2688 02:41:54,630 --> 02:41:58,320 John C. Dvorak: You know what bothers me? This whole mass 2689 02:41:58,320 --> 02:42:01,800 thing is something of a scam. If I got the blue ones as medical 2690 02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:02,580 looking ones 2691 02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:04,680 Adam Curry: it says Does it say on the packaging. This is not a 2692 02:42:04,680 --> 02:42:05,700 medical device. 2693 02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:08,130 John C. Dvorak: No, doesn't say anything like that. Just a big 2694 02:42:08,130 --> 02:42:12,750 box of them. And so you wear the mask, it's a blue mask. 2695 02:42:12,750 --> 02:42:15,030 Everyone's seen him. He's got the ridges, it's got a little 2696 02:42:15,030 --> 02:42:18,480 piece of metal at the top that you bend and pinch over your 2697 02:42:18,480 --> 02:42:23,760 nose, that one. Yes. And push the thing. If you push the thing 2698 02:42:23,790 --> 02:42:26,430 up against your mouth, yeah, push it up against your mouth, 2699 02:42:26,430 --> 02:42:29,280 so you can't get into air can't come or go and try to breathe 2700 02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:29,790 through it. 2701 02:42:30,029 --> 02:42:33,449 Adam Curry: It's easy. It's easy to breathe through it, 2702 02:42:34,110 --> 02:42:37,080 John C. Dvorak: you get nothing. It's like you choke to death 2703 02:42:37,080 --> 02:42:40,260 trying to breathe through it. And almost all the air going in 2704 02:42:40,260 --> 02:42:44,520 and out. Coming from going out the sides and up the top and 2705 02:42:44,520 --> 02:42:45,960 onto your glasses that they 2706 02:42:46,350 --> 02:42:48,450 Adam Curry: hate glasses. A steaming of the glasses is the 2707 02:42:48,450 --> 02:42:49,230 worst. 2708 02:42:49,530 --> 02:42:51,990 John C. Dvorak: It steams up your glasses. It's just that 2709 02:42:51,990 --> 02:42:57,150 these things are a scam. They're what they do, which is what I 2710 02:42:57,150 --> 02:43:01,770 think is good is that if you cough, or if you sneeze, well 2711 02:43:01,770 --> 02:43:04,890 then you don't have a pile of droplets flying every which way 2712 02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:07,920 that does stop that. But in terms of the breathing and the 2713 02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:11,040 ambient viruses that are supposedly all over the place, 2714 02:43:11,220 --> 02:43:15,270 this doesn't do crap, push it up against your face and see if you 2715 02:43:15,270 --> 02:43:17,220 can even breathe through it. You can't. 2716 02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:20,130 Adam Curry: When you do that, when you push it up against your 2717 02:43:20,130 --> 02:43:21,090 face, you should look it 2718 02:43:23,340 --> 02:43:25,650 John C. Dvorak: just for the hell Well, if I just for the 2719 02:43:25,650 --> 02:43:28,050 hell of it, maybe put some chocolate in there some 2720 02:43:28,050 --> 02:43:28,770 mechanical 2721 02:43:29,010 --> 02:43:31,920 Adam Curry: Anthony Fauci, his boss, Francis Collins, who is 2722 02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:37,590 truly the the copy to the copy of the National Institute of 2723 02:43:37,590 --> 02:43:43,050 Health, once again, won the Templeton Prize from his buddies 2724 02:43:43,050 --> 02:43:48,330 in the medical community and the medical academia, which is a 2725 02:43:48,330 --> 02:43:51,870 million dollars again, he gets he won it last year. And this is 2726 02:43:51,870 --> 02:43:56,610 his second reward. And it comes right on the heels of a state 2727 02:43:56,610 --> 02:44:03,450 now he is the Jesuit now and when I say that, it's like Fauci 2728 02:44:03,450 --> 02:44:06,510 is not a jester would call it is not a Jesuit. But they did have 2729 02:44:06,510 --> 02:44:11,700 jazz with schooling. Jesuit underpinnings, I would say, and 2730 02:44:11,700 --> 02:44:15,990 he and his company by logos, which is in his nonprofit Fauci. 2731 02:44:17,220 --> 02:44:23,220 Collins is nonprofit does it's been trying to connect science 2732 02:44:23,220 --> 02:44:27,210 with religion. And there's now a statement, We the undersigned 2733 02:44:27,210 --> 02:44:31,710 joined together as Christians, this is a whole essay who uphold 2734 02:44:31,710 --> 02:44:34,710 the authority of God's Word and see science as a tool to 2735 02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:38,160 understand God's world. We call on all Christians to follow the 2736 02:44:38,160 --> 02:44:41,850 advice of public health experts and support scientists doing 2737 02:44:41,850 --> 02:44:48,840 crucial biomedical research on COVID-19. And so, it's actually 2738 02:44:48,870 --> 02:44:53,070 Oh, it's well yeah, it's titled A Christian statement on science 2739 02:44:53,070 --> 02:44:54,630 for pandemic times. 2740 02:44:55,920 --> 02:44:58,110 John C. Dvorak: This is getting out of control. Oh, wait, now 2741 02:44:58,110 --> 02:44:59,550 you're making me sick. Wait 2742 02:44:59,550 --> 02:45:02,850 Adam Curry: for it. If God can do miracles of healing, but God 2743 02:45:02,850 --> 02:45:07,470 also uses doctors and scientists to bring healing before Jonas, 2744 02:45:07,800 --> 02:45:11,970 just before Jonas Salk sorry, discovered his vaccine. Polio 2745 02:45:11,970 --> 02:45:15,810 killed $350,000 A year most of them children, Christians in the 2746 02:45:15,810 --> 02:45:17,310 biomedical service, you said 2747 02:45:17,310 --> 02:45:19,740 John C. Dvorak: dollars. I think that's a great Freudian slip. 2748 02:45:22,140 --> 02:45:26,100 Adam Curry: Polio killed 350,000 people a year, most of them 2749 02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:30,480 children, Christians in the biomedical sciences like Dr. 2750 02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:34,140 Francis Collins. See their work is continuing the healing 2751 02:45:34,140 --> 02:45:38,430 ministry of Jesus, Matthew 1530. pursuing medical treatment is 2752 02:45:38,430 --> 02:45:41,970 not a sign of weak faith in God, but a graceful acceptance of 2753 02:45:41,970 --> 02:45:48,240 God's gifts. So, to summarize, following science is how you 2754 02:45:48,240 --> 02:45:52,140 will love thy neighbor. Therefore, because of our faith 2755 02:45:52,170 --> 02:45:58,320 in Jesus Christ, we will wear masks, wear masks, oh, no, it's 2756 02:45:58,320 --> 02:46:02,460 good wear masks in indoor public spaces and follow other physical 2757 02:46:02,460 --> 02:46:07,590 distance rules given by public health officials. One Peter 213 2758 02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:12,330 to 17. So, Pete, the Bible is actually telling the we have 2759 02:46:12,660 --> 02:46:16,530 Bibles telling unless their underlying health conditions 2760 02:46:16,530 --> 02:46:19,440 Yes, wearing a mask is uncomfortable and awkward, but 2761 02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:21,930 the evidence is clear that masks reduce the chance we will 2762 02:46:21,930 --> 02:46:25,650 transmit the disease to others. Mask rules are not experts 2763 02:46:25,650 --> 02:46:31,080 taking away our freedom, but an opportunity. But a mask rules 2764 02:46:31,140 --> 02:46:34,860 are not an expert's way of taking away our freedom, but an 2765 02:46:34,890 --> 02:46:40,230 opportunity to follow Jesus's command to love our neighbors as 2766 02:46:40,230 --> 02:46:43,980 ourselves and this and they have a whole nother passage for get 2767 02:46:43,980 --> 02:46:44,910 vaccinated. 2768 02:46:47,700 --> 02:46:50,010 John C. Dvorak: Let's see this is a black by the way, blast. 2769 02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:53,850 I'll say it I'll say it. This is blasphemy. 2770 02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:57,000 Adam Curry: I'll just read the vaccinated because that refers 2771 02:46:57,000 --> 02:47:01,350 to blasphemy. They refer to Matthew 25 verses 31 to 36. Get 2772 02:47:01,350 --> 02:47:04,290 vaccinated against COVID 19. When a safe and effective 2773 02:47:04,290 --> 02:47:07,800 vaccine is available and is directed by a physician, a large 2774 02:47:07,800 --> 02:47:10,950 fraction of the population needs to be vaccinated to develop the 2775 02:47:10,980 --> 02:47:14,370 herd immunity, which protects the immunocompromised and others 2776 02:47:14,370 --> 02:47:18,810 who cannot be vaccinated. Vaccination is a provision from 2777 02:47:18,810 --> 02:47:23,580 God that will prevent disease not only for ourselves, but for 2778 02:47:23,580 --> 02:47:27,360 the most vulnerable among us. I have a feeling this is pretty 2779 02:47:27,360 --> 02:47:28,080 distorted. 2780 02:47:29,010 --> 02:47:34,620 John C. Dvorak: You why there's gambling going on. 2781 02:47:35,580 --> 02:47:41,820 Adam Curry: No, it's a crazy nuts, man. Wow, that's a good 2782 02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:43,440 one. I think people are pretty insane. 2783 02:47:45,270 --> 02:47:48,540 John C. Dvorak: This is carried away this is really asking too 2784 02:47:48,540 --> 02:47:51,900 much. This is gonna this gonna IRQ a lot of people. This is 2785 02:47:51,900 --> 02:47:57,570 like the me me gave me this story. She's got she knows a lot 2786 02:47:57,570 --> 02:48:01,080 of comics. And one of his Jewish comic down in LA is talking to 2787 02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:04,170 her he was and he's a Democrat, and he's a Democrat in the 2788 02:48:04,170 --> 02:48:08,760 Democrat milieu. And the debates are just irked him to know and 2789 02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:13,170 he says because when Biden went on and on about, about racism 2790 02:48:13,170 --> 02:48:16,800 and racism, and then they give the example of these guys with 2791 02:48:16,800 --> 02:48:21,300 their veins, bulging yelling at anti semitic stuff, he said 2792 02:48:21,300 --> 02:48:25,560 we're not a race. And he said screw Biden, if he thinks that 2793 02:48:25,590 --> 02:48:29,280 Jews are a race, you know, this is this is the worst kind. This 2794 02:48:29,280 --> 02:48:32,010 is when you think Jews are a race and you think you could we 2795 02:48:32,010 --> 02:48:35,130 eliminate this race. I mean, they puts he puts a bunch of 2796 02:48:35,130 --> 02:48:40,020 stuff together. That is like very damning about any subject 2797 02:48:40,020 --> 02:48:41,700 voted for Trump. It's no doubt about it. 2798 02:48:44,760 --> 02:48:49,290 Adam Curry: Now entering the second half of the second half 2799 02:48:49,290 --> 02:48:50,190 of Showtime. 2800 02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:54,450 John C. Dvorak: This is not my second half of show. So I have 2801 02:48:54,450 --> 02:48:57,570 to assume that you're onto something that is second half of 2802 02:48:57,570 --> 02:49:02,490 show ish. When is your second asteroid? The bus that's going 2803 02:49:02,490 --> 02:49:05,010 to fly back past the country? No, this is about 2804 02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:10,620 Adam Curry: space wars. Space wars. Yes, space, space wars and 2805 02:49:10,620 --> 02:49:16,770 space wars. And this follows on the heels of the clip that I 2806 02:49:16,770 --> 02:49:20,070 played you will mark Esper Secretary of Defense who said 2807 02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:24,780 hey, you know we've we've got China using lasers and directed 2808 02:49:24,780 --> 02:49:31,680 energy weapons and which you're very skeptical of. And so I 2809 02:49:31,680 --> 02:49:34,680 found someone who has something to say about this. His name is 2810 02:49:34,680 --> 02:49:39,600 Brandon week or Weikert. He wrote the book winning space. 2811 02:49:40,290 --> 02:49:45,690 And he is he's a political analyst, defense analyst. I'm 2812 02:49:45,690 --> 02:49:49,560 sure he is paid for by the military and military industrial 2813 02:49:49,560 --> 02:49:52,620 complex. In fact, I'm quite confident he is but it's 2814 02:49:52,620 --> 02:49:56,550 interesting to listen to his analysis. And he's written about 2815 02:49:56,550 --> 02:50:00,120 this in his book to Esper space weaponization speech which You 2816 02:50:00,120 --> 02:50:01,530 played a show or two ago. 2817 02:50:01,650 --> 02:50:04,260 Unknown: Yeah. And so basically what he's commenting on is 2818 02:50:04,260 --> 02:50:07,500 what's been going on for the last eight years wherein first 2819 02:50:07,500 --> 02:50:11,940 Russia really took the lead in launching what are known as CO 2820 02:50:11,940 --> 02:50:14,970 orbital satellites. These are tiny satellites that are 2821 02:50:14,970 --> 02:50:18,510 launched along with regular sort of communications or military 2822 02:50:18,510 --> 02:50:21,930 satellites. And these tiny are cool core orbital satellites. 2823 02:50:21,930 --> 02:50:24,780 What we nickname as space stalkers, the Russians refer to 2824 02:50:24,780 --> 02:50:28,080 them as three retail Sputnik off, they're basically in 2825 02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:31,830 peacetime used to repair any damage satellites for the 2826 02:50:31,830 --> 02:50:35,970 Russians, but in wartime can be easily refashion and can 2827 02:50:35,970 --> 02:50:39,990 tailgate our sensitive satellites in orbit, and knock 2828 02:50:39,990 --> 02:50:43,560 them physically out of their orbits, thereby removing those 2829 02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:47,310 American surveillance communications, early warning 2830 02:50:47,310 --> 02:50:51,420 missile systems from operation and rendering the Americans 2831 02:50:51,420 --> 02:50:55,230 deaf, dumb and blind, you know, on land at sea, in the air in 2832 02:50:55,230 --> 02:50:55,860 cyber. 2833 02:50:56,520 --> 02:50:58,620 Adam Curry: So that got my attention when I heard this and 2834 02:50:58,620 --> 02:51:02,010 that he got into a little more detail about what they actually 2835 02:51:02,010 --> 02:51:03,810 can do Chinese and the Russians. 2836 02:51:03,870 --> 02:51:06,300 Unknown: And the Chinese have also now been developing similar 2837 02:51:06,300 --> 02:51:09,000 capabilities. Another thing that the Chinese have been very 2838 02:51:09,000 --> 02:51:13,320 interested in building out our laser capabilities. Usually 2839 02:51:13,320 --> 02:51:16,740 these are fired up from the ground in China, and can 2840 02:51:16,740 --> 02:51:21,000 temporarily blind the optical gear on sensitive satellites 2841 02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:24,180 passing overhead and the end up passing over the Indo Pacific. 2842 02:51:24,420 --> 02:51:28,890 And this is all for that sort of a space Pearl Harbor attempt to 2843 02:51:28,890 --> 02:51:33,180 knock the Americans out of any potential fight in say, you 2844 02:51:33,180 --> 02:51:37,230 know, the Indo Pacific or in Eastern Europe, before the 2845 02:51:37,230 --> 02:51:41,370 Americans can bring our superior forces to bear. Right now our 2846 02:51:41,370 --> 02:51:45,420 forces completely depend on the satellite architecture that's in 2847 02:51:45,420 --> 02:51:49,530 orbit. And again, if you deprive those those forces have access, 2848 02:51:49,620 --> 02:51:52,980 they have no ability to really a fight effectively, you have to 2849 02:51:52,980 --> 02:51:56,250 remember the Russian and Chinese militaries would be fighting 2850 02:51:56,250 --> 02:51:58,890 closer to their home, they would have sort of homefield 2851 02:51:58,890 --> 02:52:01,950 advantage. And very technically speaking, they have larger 2852 02:52:01,950 --> 02:52:06,450 numbers of forces than we do in any given arena. And so we'd 2853 02:52:06,450 --> 02:52:11,790 have to basically, mass quickly, limited numbers of forces to be 2854 02:52:11,790 --> 02:52:14,730 able to push back the Russians or Chinese and the Russians are 2855 02:52:14,730 --> 02:52:18,690 counting on removing the technological interlinks and 2856 02:52:18,690 --> 02:52:22,410 depriving us of that ability to mass and fight effectively. 2857 02:52:23,940 --> 02:52:26,460 Adam Curry: So it really is satellites bumping each other 2858 02:52:26,460 --> 02:52:29,190 out and doing weird stuff. And, and apparently on 2859 02:52:29,190 --> 02:52:32,190 John C. Dvorak: a second, I'm calling a show process 2860 02:52:32,190 --> 02:52:37,260 violation. How is the second half of show stuff? There's no 2861 02:52:37,290 --> 02:52:41,100 aliens involved? There's no interdimensional space stuff. 2862 02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:45,000 There's no anything. This is like probably a very accurate 2863 02:52:45,000 --> 02:52:46,680 description of what's going on. 2864 02:52:47,160 --> 02:52:51,870 Adam Curry: Okay, good. I'm glad you're on board. Here is is last 2865 02:52:51,870 --> 02:52:56,340 clip. And the technology that the Russians and Chinese are 2866 02:52:56,340 --> 02:53:01,200 using is apparently quite old goes back to the 60s and 70s. 2867 02:53:01,200 --> 02:53:05,280 We've had it for cars. Yes, we've had it for a long time. 2868 02:53:06,780 --> 02:53:07,980 And here's what he recommend we do. 2869 02:53:08,040 --> 02:53:10,050 Unknown: It may be old technology that we're talking 2870 02:53:10,050 --> 02:53:12,510 about. But this is technology that we haven't really built 2871 02:53:12,510 --> 02:53:14,940 out. So we may have had the cat capabilities for these co 2872 02:53:14,940 --> 02:53:18,420 orbital satellites since the 50s, and 60s. But we're not the 2873 02:53:18,420 --> 02:53:20,790 ones exploiting that technology. It's the Chinese and the 2874 02:53:20,790 --> 02:53:23,850 Russians who are and so now we have to play catch up. And so 2875 02:53:23,850 --> 02:53:26,850 what I advocate in the book, and what Space Force is talking 2876 02:53:26,850 --> 02:53:29,880 about doing in the French have really led the way in doing this 2877 02:53:29,880 --> 02:53:32,880 and coming up with some of the theories for it, is to use our 2878 02:53:32,880 --> 02:53:36,270 own co orbital satellites, our own space stalkers, to form 2879 02:53:36,270 --> 02:53:39,900 clusters of bodyguard satellites around America as vulnerable 2880 02:53:39,900 --> 02:53:43,890 satellites, and to sort of have, you know, sort of battle groups 2881 02:53:43,890 --> 02:53:48,120 in space on man that can defend existing American 2882 02:53:48,120 --> 02:53:52,530 constellations, and then also threaten the constellations of 2883 02:53:52,530 --> 02:53:55,320 those countries like Russia and China. Of course, the problem 2884 02:53:55,320 --> 02:53:59,670 right now is it's an asymmetrical threat because 2885 02:53:59,730 --> 02:54:03,300 China and Russia are not nearly as dependent on satellites in 2886 02:54:03,300 --> 02:54:06,900 their in their existence, as the Americans are, and they won't be 2887 02:54:06,900 --> 02:54:10,470 as dependent on satellites for at least another decade. So from 2888 02:54:10,470 --> 02:54:14,910 2020 to 2030, you have this really bad situation where 2889 02:54:14,910 --> 02:54:19,080 there's an asymmetrical threat against us, which is why in the 2890 02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:22,290 book, I argue for more Compellent space dominance 2891 02:54:22,290 --> 02:54:26,340 doctrine on our part, rather than a deterrent minded doctrine 2892 02:54:26,340 --> 02:54:29,370 of space superiority, but the idea that space is a sanctuary, 2893 02:54:29,430 --> 02:54:34,860 like Antarctica is insane and dangerous and will lead to an 2894 02:54:34,860 --> 02:54:37,890 attack on us in space from either China or Russia. 2895 02:54:38,100 --> 02:54:39,270 Space Force. 2896 02:54:39,390 --> 02:54:41,640 Adam Curry: Now, maybe he's not all that crazy, the Orange Man 2897 02:54:41,640 --> 02:54:44,070 With The Space Force. The only thing I don't like about this 2898 02:54:44,070 --> 02:54:47,190 guy is I think there's something else happening, but I think 2899 02:54:47,190 --> 02:54:49,890 we're definitely fighting against it, except we've just 2900 02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:54,930 masked it under our own Iron Man, the Kooky billionaire, and 2901 02:54:54,930 --> 02:54:58,980 the Elon Musk's Starlink project. Yeah, yeah, that's for 2902 02:54:58,980 --> 02:55:02,820 internet everywhere. Sure, get real that's 2903 02:55:03,630 --> 02:55:07,110 John C. Dvorak: been suspicious of Elon Musk's everywhere. 2904 02:55:07,170 --> 02:55:10,440 Adam Curry: Of course, he lives off the government subsidies for 2905 02:55:10,440 --> 02:55:14,550 the cars subsidies for this space for them for his star 2906 02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:14,970 ladies 2907 02:55:14,970 --> 02:55:17,700 John C. Dvorak: for is definitely panels Yes, 2908 02:55:17,700 --> 02:55:21,390 Adam Curry: everything. So and Trump seems to like him, and he 2909 02:55:21,390 --> 02:55:26,280 likes Trump. So there you go. Elon Musk has every reason to be 2910 02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:29,730 against musk. I've had to be against Trump. He the people 2911 02:55:29,730 --> 02:55:33,270 that he he's investors, a Sequoia Capital Kleiner Perkins, 2912 02:55:33,390 --> 02:55:38,310 huge Trump haters, Bill. Yeah. Now Elon does yawns like honey 2913 02:55:38,310 --> 02:55:42,690 badger, because he's in on it. That Starlink that's that's bad 2914 02:55:42,690 --> 02:55:45,900 news for China and Russia. I think it's really bad news. 2915 02:55:48,060 --> 02:55:48,450 Well, 2916 02:55:48,480 --> 02:55:52,410 John C. Dvorak: we'll see. Yeah, we don't need the Chinese 2917 02:55:52,470 --> 02:55:54,960 knocking our satellites out. costs money. 2918 02:55:56,070 --> 02:55:56,880 Adam Curry: We don't. 2919 02:55:58,770 --> 02:56:00,780 John C. Dvorak: All right. Well, I don't know. I got nothing. I 2920 02:56:02,130 --> 02:56:06,600 got nothing. I got one. about Star Wars. 2921 02:56:06,600 --> 02:56:10,740 Adam Curry: Oh, whatever. Space Force. Space Force. 2922 02:56:11,910 --> 02:56:15,000 John C. Dvorak: No, I got no space for us. I got no COVID. I 2923 02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:18,420 got it. I got to think on the on the I got a very interesting 2924 02:56:18,420 --> 02:56:24,630 three set three clip. voter fraud. That's good. Yes. This is 2925 02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:27,720 from democracy. Now. This is Amy Gofman. 2926 02:56:27,960 --> 02:56:31,830 Unknown: on Capitol Hill, FBI director Christopher Rea, told 2927 02:56:31,830 --> 02:56:35,340 the Senate Homeland Security Committee Thursday, he has seen 2928 02:56:35,370 --> 02:56:39,510 no evidence of the widespread voter fraud claimed by President 2929 02:56:39,510 --> 02:56:41,910 Trump among Malin ballots. 2930 02:56:42,330 --> 02:56:47,370 John C. Dvorak: Okay. That's just set up. Yeah. That's a lie. 2931 02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:53,250 That's a lie. She This is a whipsaw. She puts this lie out 2932 02:56:53,250 --> 02:56:56,910 there, which she'll do. And then when you listen to what this guy 2933 02:56:56,940 --> 02:57:01,080 Ray who's just a troublemaker, it seems to me actually said he 2934 02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:04,950 never said anything quite of the sword. King effect. He never 2935 02:57:04,950 --> 02:57:08,370 denied that there was going to be that voter balloting. 2936 02:57:08,400 --> 02:57:10,170 Adam Curry: Let's listen to that. Let's listen to the lie 2937 02:57:10,170 --> 02:57:12,180 again. Just to make because I want everyone to make sure you 2938 02:57:12,180 --> 02:57:13,650 hear it. It's 13 seconds 2939 02:57:13,680 --> 02:57:17,490 Unknown: on Capitol Hill FBI director Christopher Rea, told 2940 02:57:17,490 --> 02:57:21,030 the Senate Homeland Security Committee Thursday he has seen 2941 02:57:21,060 --> 02:57:25,170 no evidence of the widespread voter fraud claimed by President 2942 02:57:25,170 --> 02:57:27,150 Trump among mail in ballots. 2943 02:57:27,180 --> 02:57:29,220 Adam Curry: Okay. All right. So we've heard it now we've heard 2944 02:57:29,220 --> 02:57:31,620 the setup for the whipsaw, let's go 2945 02:57:31,950 --> 02:57:37,200 Unknown: not seen historically, any kind of coordinated national 2946 02:57:37,200 --> 02:57:41,400 voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail 2947 02:57:41,400 --> 02:57:42,330 or otherwise, 2948 02:57:42,360 --> 02:57:45,810 Adam Curry: wow, that's truly the only thing he said about it. 2949 02:57:47,220 --> 02:57:51,510 John C. Dvorak: And he uses the word coordinated, historical 2950 02:57:51,510 --> 02:57:54,360 play his clip again and you compare it to what Amy said. He 2951 02:57:54,360 --> 02:57:55,530 said, Holy 2952 02:57:55,530 --> 02:57:59,880 Adam Curry: crap, that's not seen his Can I just play him 2953 02:57:59,880 --> 02:58:03,690 back to back it's much better. Back to back everyone gets it. 2954 02:58:03,720 --> 02:58:05,850 It's like a whole 23 seconds combined 2955 02:58:05,880 --> 02:58:09,720 Unknown: on Capitol Hill. FBI director Christopher Ray told 2956 02:58:09,720 --> 02:58:13,230 the Senate Homeland Security Committee Thursday, he has seen 2957 02:58:13,260 --> 02:58:17,400 no evidence of the widespread voter fraud claimed by President 2958 02:58:17,400 --> 02:58:19,650 Trump among mail and ballots 2959 02:58:19,679 --> 02:58:25,139 not seen historically. Any kind of coordinated national voter 2960 02:58:25,139 --> 02:58:29,009 fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail 2961 02:58:29,039 --> 02:58:30,929 or otherwise, historically, 2962 02:58:30,930 --> 02:58:33,570 Adam Curry: even Wow, what a Jumoke. 2963 02:58:34,620 --> 02:58:37,560 John C. Dvorak: I have not seen historically any coordinated and 2964 02:58:37,560 --> 02:58:41,370 you know, he talks about a ordinated scheme. That's not 2965 02:58:41,370 --> 02:58:42,750 what she said. He said, 2966 02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:46,530 Adam Curry: No, that's not what she said. He said, and that's a 2967 02:58:46,560 --> 02:58:47,340 she is 2968 02:58:47,340 --> 02:58:50,730 John C. Dvorak: a real douchebag this woman. So let's play the 2969 02:58:50,730 --> 02:58:53,790 third clip, which I think adds a little I don't know what what 2970 02:58:53,790 --> 02:58:56,100 element this adds but I did have a third part of 2971 02:58:56,100 --> 02:59:00,000 Unknown: the FBI director's testimony came as a US attorney 2972 02:59:00,000 --> 02:59:04,230 and an FBI field office and Pennsylvania issued an unusual 2973 02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:07,170 statement claiming they're investigating reports of 2974 02:59:07,170 --> 02:59:10,710 tampering with nine military ballots. The US attorney says 2975 02:59:10,710 --> 02:59:13,140 the ballots were improperly opened with votes cast for 2976 02:59:13,140 --> 02:59:16,860 Donald Trump discarded by elections officials. The Trump 2977 02:59:16,860 --> 02:59:19,380 campaign then seized on the announcement saying quote, 2978 02:59:19,380 --> 02:59:23,160 Democrats are trying to steal the election. Loyola Law School 2979 02:59:23,160 --> 02:59:26,430 professor Justin Levitt question the timing of the announcement 2980 02:59:26,430 --> 02:59:30,480 telling NPR quote, It is the vital duty of government not to 2981 02:59:30,480 --> 02:59:33,690 announce partial facts and potential issues and pending 2982 02:59:33,690 --> 02:59:36,990 investigations. Indeed, it's quite improper to announce the 2983 02:59:36,990 --> 02:59:40,410 fact of an inquiry and grotesquely improper to announce 2984 02:59:40,470 --> 02:59:44,430 whom the ballots were cast for as if that mattered in the 2985 02:59:44,430 --> 02:59:46,890 investigation. Yes, that matters. 2986 02:59:49,380 --> 02:59:50,160 Adam Curry: Wow. 2987 02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:52,380 John C. Dvorak: Yeah. Unbelievable. 2988 02:59:53,279 --> 02:59:56,609 Adam Curry: That really believable sadly but holy crap. 2989 02:59:57,900 --> 02:59:59,220 Unknown: Yeah, you're right. And that is 2990 02:59:59,250 --> 03:00:01,980 Adam Curry: that is crazy. see a list? That's just false? Yes. 2991 03:00:01,980 --> 03:00:05,520 Three hours on the nose. Let's thank some people. Let's get the 2992 03:00:05,520 --> 03:00:09,750 donation pad open. Hello, everybody. Here we go. I'm going 2993 03:00:09,750 --> 03:00:10,350 to show my 2994 03:00:10,380 --> 03:00:13,500 Unknown: mood by donation to no agenda. Imagine all the people 2995 03:00:13,500 --> 03:00:15,030 who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd 2996 03:00:15,029 --> 03:00:25,379 John C. Dvorak: be fun going on people. Sir Borislav Mara enough 2997 03:00:25,379 --> 03:00:30,149 Topsis top solace from trabuco Canyon $127 Nice and jobs. Karma 2998 03:00:30,149 --> 03:00:38,519 puts it at the end. Will Robert son in Palos California 101 79. 2999 03:00:38,519 --> 03:00:43,469 And he's got a birthday coming up. And he wants to celebrate 3000 03:00:43,469 --> 03:00:49,259 Yeah, you're on the list will? Yep. Falgun Sha $100.90 3001 03:00:49,320 --> 03:00:52,710 Adam Curry: interesting numbers. The 79 cents 90 cents. 3002 03:00:53,220 --> 03:00:57,780 John C. Dvorak: No. Yeah. Nick Schloss mocker. We know these 3003 03:00:57,780 --> 03:01:02,940 numbers 808 and mission Kansas. And he said he had a great time 3004 03:01:02,940 --> 03:01:08,670 it's a meet up and it was like a party mentioned. says thanks to 3005 03:01:08,670 --> 03:01:12,510 Matt savage Minnesota for hitting me in the mouth even 3006 03:01:12,510 --> 03:01:14,460 though he's still a douche bag. Oh, 3007 03:01:14,460 --> 03:01:19,050 Adam Curry: noes. Bag, douche bag. 3008 03:01:20,970 --> 03:01:26,520 John C. Dvorak: Back to Austin con Durer law in Bryan, Texas. 3009 03:01:26,580 --> 03:01:33,360 808. Also, he has a douchebag call for somebody longtime 3010 03:01:33,360 --> 03:01:35,670 listener longtime douchebag he's a D douching. 3011 03:01:37,650 --> 03:01:39,450 Unknown: You've been D deuced. 3012 03:01:40,260 --> 03:01:42,270 John C. Dvorak: has been listening to us as a sophomore. 3013 03:01:42,600 --> 03:01:45,270 He doesn't live in Austin and looking for the douchebag call 3014 03:01:45,270 --> 03:01:45,630 out I 3015 03:01:45,630 --> 03:01:48,990 Adam Curry: don't see it. Where's the call from my friend 3016 03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:53,220 Evan for being a douchebag we don't we don't read notes 3017 03:01:53,250 --> 03:01:56,700 necessarily under under Associate Executive level. 3018 03:01:57,750 --> 03:01:59,970 John C. Dvorak: Sure. Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of lunette 3019 03:01:59,970 --> 03:02:07,320 lover of America and boobs. 808 locust North Carolina. Remember 3020 03:02:07,320 --> 03:02:12,720 that clip? We had the guy just fuddled, that poor woman on CNN 3021 03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:15,480 because he says he likes boobs? Oh, yeah, 3022 03:02:15,510 --> 03:02:17,880 Adam Curry: I have that. I have that clip. Here we go. 3023 03:02:18,960 --> 03:02:22,110 Unknown: Clay to you first, you know of all the different 3024 03:02:22,290 --> 03:02:26,400 colonists or or even magazines in the wake of Charlottesville 3025 03:02:26,400 --> 03:02:32,370 specifically rolled out the President as racist. Why, why do 3026 03:02:32,370 --> 03:02:37,920 you think he really took this particular target on ESPN and 3027 03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:39,150 Jamel? Well, 3028 03:02:39,150 --> 03:02:41,850 I think because ESPN is not in the business of commenting 3029 03:02:41,850 --> 03:02:45,390 randomly on political related issues. If you look at their 3030 03:02:45,390 --> 03:02:49,260 history, they established about 18 months ago that they don't 3031 03:02:49,260 --> 03:02:53,970 believe young people thing and non sports related misleadingly. 3032 03:02:54,510 --> 03:02:55,890 So those are the only big boobs 3033 03:02:57,840 --> 03:02:59,790 there too, and I just want to make sure I'm hearing you 3034 03:02:59,790 --> 03:03:01,890 correctly, B O Z. 3035 03:03:02,790 --> 03:03:05,910 decisions that have less than two this ratings collapsing 3036 03:03:05,910 --> 03:03:09,990 Jamel Hills television show is collapsing ratings were down 20% 3037 03:03:09,990 --> 03:03:10,650 last week. 3038 03:03:11,010 --> 03:03:17,550 Okay. Okay, um what do you think at least? Listen, I'm astonished 3039 03:03:17,550 --> 03:03:21,570 that almost everything I just heard for So for somebody to 3040 03:03:21,600 --> 03:03:25,410 come on CNN and to say something like the only thing I believe in 3041 03:03:25,410 --> 03:03:26,160 in the discussion 3042 03:03:26,519 --> 03:03:28,949 I'm still there too and I just want to make sure I'm hearing 3043 03:03:28,949 --> 03:03:34,979 you correctly. BOZB Oh BS because as a woman I'm 3044 03:03:36,600 --> 03:03:39,600 completely in the First Amendment and in boobs are the 3045 03:03:39,600 --> 03:03:41,970 only two things I believe 100% And in this country. 3046 03:03:43,860 --> 03:03:46,440 John C. Dvorak: Now, here is a good clip from what's the date 3047 03:03:46,440 --> 03:03:47,130 on that clip? 3048 03:03:47,220 --> 03:03:49,680 Adam Curry: Oh, that is 3049 03:03:51,390 --> 03:03:54,870 John C. Dvorak: this is again it is a whole thing CNN and Trump 3050 03:03:54,870 --> 03:03:56,160 is a racist September 3051 03:03:56,160 --> 03:03:59,610 Adam Curry: 17 2017 Yeah, 3052 03:03:59,640 --> 03:04:02,310 John C. Dvorak: the racist racist red they are they the 3053 03:04:02,310 --> 03:04:05,910 Democrats must be scared to death that they're going to lose 3054 03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:07,620 one black vote. 3055 03:04:10,020 --> 03:04:12,240 Adam Curry: I think they've lost quite a quite a bit already. 3056 03:04:12,810 --> 03:04:17,670 John C. Dvorak: Richard is next on the list. Richard K. G five 3057 03:04:17,670 --> 03:04:22,350 ddx 70 threes and he's donated 7373 By the way, Green Eggs and 3058 03:04:22,350 --> 03:04:28,260 Ham we lost him he's gone overboard. Most never know. He 3059 03:04:28,260 --> 03:04:35,850 needs a D douching. Our friend Richard. You been reduced. APR 3060 03:04:35,850 --> 03:04:41,430 buried in Amboy. Minnesota. Nice is 7272 She sent a card and this 3061 03:04:41,430 --> 03:04:45,660 we have to we should probably give her this at the end. Good 3062 03:04:45,660 --> 03:04:48,420 day to you. Both of you. Thanks. She always says a nice cute 3063 03:04:48,420 --> 03:04:53,970 little card. Thanks for what you do for us. I could use some F 3064 03:04:53,970 --> 03:04:58,080 cancer karma from my friend glossy who I guess is one of her 3065 03:04:58,080 --> 03:05:01,470 friends who's got cancer sugar, we put an F Can't do it and of 3066 03:05:01,470 --> 03:05:07,140 course Sir Alan Hawes and Windsor, Berkshire, UK 7171 F 3067 03:05:07,140 --> 03:05:12,210 the EU he says Baronet loud pipes in Charlotte, North 3068 03:05:12,210 --> 03:05:18,780 Carolina. Casey Garrett in new we're, we'll watch, we'll watch 3069 03:05:18,780 --> 03:05:22,620 a QA we'll watch a QA we'll watch a QA to defy 55 in 3070 03:05:22,620 --> 03:05:28,890 Florida, Michael Shambo and Topeka Kansas 5510 Sure Luke The 3071 03:05:28,890 --> 03:05:36,360 Baron of London 5510 tarantula also 5510 and search Lancelot. I 3072 03:05:36,360 --> 03:05:38,940 believe that the note in about 3073 03:05:39,030 --> 03:05:42,300 Adam Curry: his landlord needs some f f cancer karma. 3074 03:05:43,380 --> 03:05:46,890 John C. Dvorak: No, it will. Maybe it's live but I got a last 3075 03:05:46,890 --> 03:05:48,060 minute. No, he died. 3076 03:05:48,689 --> 03:05:52,019 Adam Curry: Oh, shit. Karma comes too late. 3077 03:05:52,560 --> 03:05:56,040 John C. Dvorak: I think this is the same guy. He died. So let's, 3078 03:05:56,040 --> 03:05:57,570 uh, I'm not sure what to do. Well, we 3079 03:05:57,900 --> 03:06:03,690 Adam Curry: have cancer karma for April's friends. So yay. 3080 03:06:04,500 --> 03:06:06,870 John C. Dvorak: Long back and forth on that one. Oh, gosh. 3081 03:06:08,130 --> 03:06:12,600 Joshua Owens is connecting Schenectady, New York to the 510 3082 03:06:13,110 --> 03:06:18,660 David Hutchinson 53 and got his birthday for his wife, Eric 3083 03:06:18,660 --> 03:06:22,500 Hokulea is still with us in Myrtle rose oil slant of the two 3084 03:06:22,529 --> 03:06:23,279 Adam Curry: boys and 3085 03:06:24,630 --> 03:06:26,850 John C. Dvorak: the hawk or whatever. Hello, Deutschland. 3086 03:06:26,850 --> 03:06:31,890 Here's the house. The Scott Nelson and Council Bluffs, Iowa 3087 03:06:31,890 --> 03:06:34,710 I believe used to be in Florida 5001 The following people are 3088 03:06:34,710 --> 03:06:38,640 $50 donors name and location starting with Rene to Bach and 3089 03:06:38,640 --> 03:06:42,780 mepple. Ah no, Rene. Yeah, like 3090 03:06:43,560 --> 03:06:46,620 Adam Curry: Renee has donated many times in metal metal is the 3091 03:06:47,040 --> 03:06:51,720 is the black the black stocking church area. Oh, yes. Like the 3092 03:06:51,720 --> 03:06:54,000 really like The Handmaid's Tale area, 3093 03:06:54,599 --> 03:07:01,019 John C. Dvorak: though. Pamela suberin svrsevern in San 3094 03:07:01,019 --> 03:07:04,349 Antonio, Texas. Christopher Kessler in Marshfield, 3095 03:07:04,349 --> 03:07:11,129 Wisconsin, Lauren tweed in Magna, Utah. I Ichi kitty Galois 3096 03:07:11,129 --> 03:07:14,669 rounds it out. He's over there in San Francisco, California. 3097 03:07:14,669 --> 03:07:19,709 And one of my favorite Japanese names. I want to thank all these 3098 03:07:19,709 --> 03:07:22,619 folks for producing show 1282. 3099 03:07:22,890 --> 03:07:27,690 Adam Curry: Yes. And with that donation, I am reminded to tell 3100 03:07:27,690 --> 03:07:30,750 you that the Japanese saying we were discussing on the previous 3101 03:07:30,750 --> 03:07:35,250 show is the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. That is the 3102 03:07:35,310 --> 03:07:39,240 saying you were looking for a callback as a callback to the 3103 03:07:39,240 --> 03:07:43,380 show. Okay, thank you all very much. These are our producers. 3104 03:07:43,380 --> 03:07:46,980 Of course, we have many more producers, who can't support us 3105 03:07:46,980 --> 03:07:49,890 financially but do all kinds of other work, from art to clips to 3106 03:07:49,890 --> 03:07:53,790 jingles to knowledge, time, talent, treasure. And we have 3107 03:07:53,790 --> 03:07:57,000 people who are on our multiple subscription programs, please 3108 03:07:57,000 --> 03:08:00,870 consider doing that as a sustaining donation to your no 3109 03:08:00,870 --> 03:08:04,140 agenda show after all, we all do it together and thank you again 3110 03:08:04,140 --> 03:08:06,960 for supporting the best pod cast in the universe. 3111 03:08:06,990 --> 03:08:10,500 Unknown: vora.org/in A. 3112 03:08:12,420 --> 03:08:17,580 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job. 3113 03:08:33,300 --> 03:08:36,330 Adam Curry: October 1, let's get set with our birthday listeners 3114 03:08:36,330 --> 03:08:39,960 got Vinny Petula from Brooklyn, saying happy birthday to his 3115 03:08:39,960 --> 03:08:44,550 daughter Ileana. She turned two years old yesterday. Paul 3116 03:08:44,550 --> 03:08:47,310 Gabrielson will be celebrating on the third day Elizabeth 3117 03:08:47,310 --> 03:08:50,160 O'Neill says Happy Birthday to our sizzling hot, hard working 3118 03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:54,420 man Jeff bearish, it will be 36 on the fourth will Robertson 41 3119 03:08:54,420 --> 03:08:57,780 yesterday and David Hutchinson says Happy Birthday to his wife 3120 03:08:57,780 --> 03:09:01,470 Sonia, who turns 53 year old today and she still reads the 3121 03:09:01,470 --> 03:09:03,720 newspaper without her glasses. Happy Birthday everybody from 3122 03:09:03,720 --> 03:09:08,190 the best podcast in the universe. No title changes but 3123 03:09:08,190 --> 03:09:13,620 we do have a couple of scenes. No dame's we've got knights, 3124 03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:18,810 Knights. So let's bring them on up with the blade blade. Hello, 3125 03:09:18,810 --> 03:09:26,700 here's the big one. Okay, and just mark that up on the podium. 3126 03:09:26,700 --> 03:09:30,120 Please, if you don't mind, I'd like to following Robert blank 3127 03:09:30,120 --> 03:09:36,750 St. Paul Gabrielson and Tommy Horton. You gentlemen are now 3128 03:09:36,750 --> 03:09:39,360 joining the illustrious roundtable of the no agenda 3129 03:09:39,360 --> 03:09:42,510 Knights and Dames and I'm very proud to pronounce the cape be 3130 03:09:42,510 --> 03:09:48,810 as surcharge shy night of the day. Oh, sir slow below of the 3131 03:09:48,810 --> 03:09:52,140 Central Coast answered Tommy Hart for you. We've got hookers 3132 03:09:52,140 --> 03:09:56,220 and blow rent boys and Sharknado we've got the resin for Devin 3133 03:09:56,220 --> 03:10:01,020 and QR T. We've got sparkling cider Nesco Wurtzbach in vanilla 3134 03:10:01,020 --> 03:10:04,380 Rubenesque with learn Rosae ginger ale and shareables but 3135 03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:07,860 also in the mutton in Mead. It's what y'all want it's what y'all 3136 03:10:07,860 --> 03:10:11,520 get when you hit the round table and go ahead and head over to no 3137 03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:15,180 agenda nation.com/rings Give Eric show all your info so we 3138 03:10:15,180 --> 03:10:20,070 can get your handsome signet ring the ceiling wax and your 3139 03:10:20,070 --> 03:10:23,490 certificate on the way to you and thank you for supporting and 3140 03:10:23,490 --> 03:10:26,370 really supporting the best podcast in university no agenda 3141 03:10:26,370 --> 03:10:29,640 show it is highly appreciated. Know What 3142 03:10:36,600 --> 03:10:40,290 the Oh, the meetups are everywhere. They're taking place 3143 03:10:40,290 --> 03:10:43,560 everywhere. First let's do a we have a single meetup report for 3144 03:10:43,560 --> 03:10:47,970 today. This is from the meetup in Monroe Connecticut. Dame 3145 03:10:47,970 --> 03:10:51,960 Jamie sir Mad Hatter. This was the debate party at Republic 3146 03:10:51,960 --> 03:10:53,340 kitchen and bar 3147 03:10:53,370 --> 03:10:57,720 Unknown: this is Sir Mad Hatter reporting from a Monroe's 3148 03:10:58,380 --> 03:11:02,970 Republican Kitchen and Bar at the Connecticut 203 or CT 203 3149 03:11:02,970 --> 03:11:07,530 meetup crew saying in the morning and passing it over to 3150 03:11:07,560 --> 03:11:10,410 my my better half the illustrious Dame Jamie 3151 03:11:10,530 --> 03:11:13,380 Hi apparently we're making a message for our what was it or 3152 03:11:13,380 --> 03:11:18,690 something leaders our fearless leaders Dame Jamie organized the 3153 03:11:18,690 --> 03:11:22,560 event we had an absolute frickin blast. I think some of the 3154 03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:24,870 teleprompter tell approximate end 3155 03:11:24,870 --> 03:11:27,450 Adam Curry: of show i so i guess pull that up. We are an absolute 3156 03:11:27,450 --> 03:11:29,700 freaking blast. Frickin blast. 3157 03:11:29,910 --> 03:11:33,120 Unknown: I think some of the teleprompter. teleprompter 3158 03:11:33,150 --> 03:11:36,270 writing was interesting when instead of the main event it was 3159 03:11:36,270 --> 03:11:39,210 the main like the state event. But here we go. 3160 03:11:39,570 --> 03:11:42,690 Hey Chris Capelle from CONNECTICUT, Connecticut worse 3161 03:11:42,690 --> 03:11:47,760 than Lyme disease we gave you Michael Bolton Hi this is Bill 3162 03:11:47,760 --> 03:11:51,000 Paterno checking in in the morning. Love you guys. What's 3163 03:11:51,000 --> 03:11:51,960 going on everybody? 3164 03:11:51,960 --> 03:11:56,640 This is Brandon negros ne don't forget just like John the vendor 3165 03:11:56,640 --> 03:12:00,510 book Black fragility is coming and in the spirit of Charlotte. 3166 03:12:00,720 --> 03:12:03,390 Don't lock me up calm Allama dingdong 3167 03:12:04,800 --> 03:12:07,260 This is Matthew recovering millennial and I'm too young to 3168 03:12:07,260 --> 03:12:08,130 be OTG 3169 03:12:08,250 --> 03:12:13,830 is a seer Robert the other night though the dragon fly on and on 3170 03:12:13,830 --> 03:12:16,500 the morning having a great time. 3171 03:12:18,630 --> 03:12:22,230 Adam Curry: Thanks, guys. Nice report. Sounds like that. A good 3172 03:12:22,230 --> 03:12:25,230 crew there. Here's what's coming up for Saturday. The Minnesota 3173 03:12:25,230 --> 03:12:28,680 small megaliths meet up 11 o'clock in New York City no 3174 03:12:28,680 --> 03:12:31,530 agenda meet up at four o'clock also on Saturday. Let me see 3175 03:12:31,530 --> 03:12:36,600 who's organizing that that is Daniel J. Franco is know him as 3176 03:12:36,600 --> 03:12:40,080 Charleston, South Carolina six week ish, cycled four o'clock. 3177 03:12:40,380 --> 03:12:43,830 This is all Saturday, Washington County Peninsula mo facts and no 3178 03:12:43,830 --> 03:12:47,850 agenda meetup at four o'clock. The Kaiser longterm Germany 3179 03:12:47,850 --> 03:12:51,660 brews and stogies one o'clock Central European Time on 3180 03:12:51,660 --> 03:12:55,650 Saturday at La Casa del habanero and Tim The Enchanter is your 3181 03:12:55,650 --> 03:13:01,020 host. Then on Wednesday, the St. Pete Beach Florida meetup 11am 3182 03:13:01,020 --> 03:13:04,980 Am remember and the ninth we have the Zurich Saturday six 3183 03:13:04,980 --> 03:13:08,100 o'clock Central peon urine, European time meet up that'll be 3184 03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:12,420 the Rivington and Sons bar Swiss Santa is hosting usually gets a 3185 03:13:12,420 --> 03:13:14,730 couple of people there. So make sure you check that out if 3186 03:13:14,730 --> 03:13:17,730 you're in the Zurich area, or if you're counting your crypto 3187 03:13:17,730 --> 03:13:23,730 coins in Zook. And then brand new on the list is now Friday, 3188 03:13:23,730 --> 03:13:28,230 next Friday. The southern shilling noisy and meet up it's 3189 03:13:28,260 --> 03:13:30,480 of course repeat for them. And that'll be at six o'clock as 3190 03:13:30,480 --> 03:13:34,290 well. No agenda meetups.com is where you can find no agenda 3191 03:13:34,290 --> 03:13:36,120 people just like you except they're all going to be 3192 03:13:36,120 --> 03:13:39,090 completely different. And there's no triggering. You can 3193 03:13:39,090 --> 03:13:42,540 hang out just have a nice drink and laugh. I think it's always 3194 03:13:42,540 --> 03:13:45,870 been that way for every single one. And if there's not one near 3195 03:13:45,870 --> 03:13:49,440 you please put one up yourself organize it go to no agenda 3196 03:13:49,440 --> 03:14:04,110 meetups.com Sometimes you day, you will be triggered. We want 3197 03:14:04,110 --> 03:14:13,380 to be where everybody feels the same. Did we have? Did we have a 3198 03:14:13,380 --> 03:14:17,400 red book entry about Shepard Smith? 3199 03:14:19,530 --> 03:14:22,080 John C. Dvorak: No, it was just something that I casually said 3200 03:14:22,080 --> 03:14:23,340 and you agreed with? 3201 03:14:24,240 --> 03:14:26,820 Adam Curry: I thought you disagreed actually, if I recall 3202 03:14:26,820 --> 03:14:27,090 what I 3203 03:14:27,090 --> 03:14:29,010 John C. Dvorak: disagree. He's obviously wasn't going to quit 3204 03:14:29,010 --> 03:14:31,470 less. He had a job someplace else. No, no, I 3205 03:14:31,470 --> 03:14:33,780 Adam Curry: said a while ago that he was going to see NBC and 3206 03:14:33,780 --> 03:14:36,120 you said that makes no sense. They would do that. And I said I 3207 03:14:36,120 --> 03:14:37,530 remember call Yes. 3208 03:14:37,560 --> 03:14:42,120 John C. Dvorak: Yes. No, what I knew is gonna go somewhere. But 3209 03:14:42,120 --> 03:14:46,140 CNBC made no sense to me because the CNBC is a stock market 3210 03:14:46,620 --> 03:14:47,670 channel. Yeah, but 3211 03:14:47,670 --> 03:14:52,200 Adam Curry: they put the shark tank on CNBC hidden by the way. 3212 03:14:52,350 --> 03:14:57,750 I think it's coming in in the Shark Tank time slot. That is 3213 03:14:57,750 --> 03:15:01,560 going to be quite a nut to crack for sure. Jeff Smith former FBI 3214 03:15:01,560 --> 03:15:03,810 is going to do it I don't think he I don't think you can do 3215 03:15:03,810 --> 03:15:05,640 better Frank things than Shark Tank. 3216 03:15:05,880 --> 03:15:08,610 John C. Dvorak: No No he can't shark tanks got a cult following 3217 03:15:08,610 --> 03:15:11,310 his a lot of people and what's he going to do? Why is he on 3218 03:15:11,310 --> 03:15:14,220 CNBC makes no sense. So if that's what happened and you 3219 03:15:14,220 --> 03:15:18,000 said that then you would get the checkmark Yeah, but we'd to you 3220 03:15:18,000 --> 03:15:18,960 when the show but 3221 03:15:18,960 --> 03:15:21,000 Adam Curry: we don't. I don't have a red book. I thought we 3222 03:15:21,000 --> 03:15:22,200 put it in the Red Book. That's why 3223 03:15:22,410 --> 03:15:27,810 John C. Dvorak: I don't I do red book is no red book is what is 3224 03:15:27,810 --> 03:15:28,800 over. No, I 3225 03:15:28,800 --> 03:15:31,440 Adam Curry: have a red book. I've kept stuff that somebody 3226 03:15:31,440 --> 03:15:33,480 John C. Dvorak: does, but I gave up. 3227 03:15:33,510 --> 03:15:37,170 Adam Curry: What do you mean? What is why? This is a staple of 3228 03:15:37,170 --> 03:15:40,440 the show that you can buy red Amazon years ago? 3229 03:15:41,100 --> 03:15:42,480 John C. Dvorak: Because they have all these red books here 3230 03:15:42,480 --> 03:15:45,810 and I can't read a word of them. Oh, you want me to go through 3231 03:15:45,810 --> 03:15:47,490 one of the years? I got one right here. Okay, 3232 03:15:47,520 --> 03:15:49,320 Adam Curry: and then I'll read what I have. I have red book 3233 03:15:49,320 --> 03:15:49,920 entries. 3234 03:15:51,180 --> 03:15:53,040 John C. Dvorak: Okay, let me see what we got. Okay, I 3235 03:15:53,040 --> 03:15:58,950 Adam Curry: have March 29. Dollar to gold standard of the 3236 03:15:58,950 --> 03:16:02,490 oil glut destroys the petro dollar. I have no idea what that 3237 03:16:02,490 --> 03:16:03,090 means. 3238 03:16:03,480 --> 03:16:05,970 John C. Dvorak: I do. I know what it means. Okay. It means 3239 03:16:05,970 --> 03:16:06,960 you are wrong. 3240 03:16:09,090 --> 03:16:13,350 Adam Curry: June 7 kapernick to play in the NFL. Well, I'll be 3241 03:16:13,350 --> 03:16:14,490 right on that one that's gonna 3242 03:16:14,520 --> 03:16:15,360 John C. Dvorak: No you won't. 3243 03:16:17,520 --> 03:16:25,140 Adam Curry: June 18 JK Rowling will repent. No, no, I don't 3244 03:16:25,140 --> 03:16:36,780 think so. Then I have this is huge. ACD No. D barfs. No 3245 03:16:36,780 --> 03:16:43,260 debate. Oh, no, no, no debates. Ah. Ah. You lose. Lose. Lose. 3246 03:16:43,380 --> 03:16:46,890 John C. Dvorak: Not get shocked. Did you renew it again? There's 3247 03:16:46,890 --> 03:16:47,730 an S 3248 03:16:49,590 --> 03:16:51,660 Adam Curry: Yes, there is. Yes. So so I'm 3249 03:16:51,660 --> 03:16:53,760 John C. Dvorak: still good if the rest of 3250 03:16:55,230 --> 03:16:58,500 Adam Curry: okay, I put a little notation. Trump will win 3251 03:16:58,500 --> 03:17:01,470 including popular vote is was monoamine. We don't know that. 3252 03:17:01,470 --> 03:17:05,220 Obviously. That's all I have. Okay, well, that's good. I will 3253 03:17:05,220 --> 03:17:09,120 I have no problem maintaining the maintaining the Red Book 3254 03:17:09,120 --> 03:17:10,800 from here on out. I have no problem at all. 3255 03:17:12,390 --> 03:17:13,860 John C. Dvorak: I just look over this stuff. 3256 03:17:13,890 --> 03:17:15,990 Adam Curry: Did you see any of the 3257 03:17:16,019 --> 03:17:19,649 John C. Dvorak: code? Here's a red book entry. God. Yes. July 3258 03:17:19,649 --> 03:17:23,099 19 2012. The press is stupid. 3259 03:17:26,040 --> 03:17:32,250 Adam Curry: You win. Very good. Oh, shoot. What happened to this 3260 03:17:32,250 --> 03:17:37,860 clip? Not take Oh, that's too bad. That's lame. There was a 3261 03:17:37,860 --> 03:17:43,800 big I have what I want blast. me tell you what I what broke? It 3262 03:17:43,800 --> 03:17:50,370 was the there was a huge round of 345 people for a big pill 3263 03:17:50,370 --> 03:17:58,200 mill. You know, so were they they scam? Health? Was it 3264 03:17:58,200 --> 03:18:02,100 Medicare? I guess they scam Medicare. And they sell millions 3265 03:18:02,100 --> 03:18:05,520 of pills to people who are opioid addicts. And they 3266 03:18:05,520 --> 03:18:11,220 arrested 345 people, including 20 Health Executives for health 3267 03:18:11,220 --> 03:18:15,810 professional companies, and a number of doctors. It's a huge 3268 03:18:15,810 --> 03:18:18,300 deal. And it's all you know, it's really big for this for the 3269 03:18:18,330 --> 03:18:20,400 illegal opioid trade. And 3270 03:18:21,060 --> 03:18:23,190 John C. Dvorak: they should have arrested these people years ago. 3271 03:18:23,280 --> 03:18:23,580 And 3272 03:18:23,580 --> 03:18:26,310 Adam Curry: not only will you not hear about it on the news, 3273 03:18:26,550 --> 03:18:28,260 the clip doesn't even work on our show. 3274 03:18:29,220 --> 03:18:32,220 John C. Dvorak: It's suppressed. What do you call suppress? Yes. 3275 03:18:32,220 --> 03:18:34,560 Alicia got it out before they shot. Yes. 3276 03:18:34,560 --> 03:18:36,660 Adam Curry: Right. Okay, thanks. All right. Good. I feel much 3277 03:18:36,660 --> 03:18:42,540 better. All right. I do have one clip regarding the whole because 3278 03:18:42,540 --> 03:18:45,180 Comey has been testifying. We 3279 03:18:45,870 --> 03:18:47,730 John C. Dvorak: do that one last because I want to get this out 3280 03:18:47,730 --> 03:18:50,160 of the way this is not as interesting. Okay. But it's 3281 03:18:50,160 --> 03:18:53,460 interesting. In some ways. This is the Alzheimer spray. There's 3282 03:18:53,460 --> 03:18:54,540 hope for Joe. 3283 03:18:55,320 --> 03:18:57,540 Unknown: Joe is that how health partners in the twin cities are 3284 03:18:57,540 --> 03:19:00,780 growing increasingly optimistic about a new Alzheimer's 3285 03:19:00,780 --> 03:19:01,380 treatment? 3286 03:19:01,410 --> 03:19:04,860 It's a nasal spray, they say can greatly help with memory loss 3287 03:19:04,860 --> 03:19:07,830 and patients taking part in a clinical trial in HealthWatch. 3288 03:19:07,830 --> 03:19:11,190 Tonight, WCC is John lords and shows us the progress that has 3289 03:19:11,190 --> 03:19:13,980 been made and how the spray helps the brain. 3290 03:19:14,700 --> 03:19:18,060 We go day by day. And there are some days that are more 3291 03:19:18,060 --> 03:19:20,760 difficult than other days after 56 3292 03:19:20,760 --> 03:19:24,060 years of marriage. Mary Margaret layman is closer to her husband 3293 03:19:24,060 --> 03:19:27,660 than she's ever been. Ken is living with Alzheimer's, but the 3294 03:19:27,660 --> 03:19:30,990 couple is hopeful that an intranasal insulin spray may 3295 03:19:30,990 --> 03:19:31,380 help 3296 03:19:31,500 --> 03:19:34,620 is hope. It's a different strategy for treating 3297 03:19:34,620 --> 03:19:35,130 Alzheimer's. 3298 03:19:35,130 --> 03:19:38,070 Adam Curry: I love that whoever edited this, there's hope and 3299 03:19:38,070 --> 03:19:39,540 you hear the guy oh, this hope. 3300 03:19:40,410 --> 03:19:42,810 Unknown: But the couple is hopeful that an intranasal 3301 03:19:42,810 --> 03:19:44,400 insulin spray may help 3302 03:19:44,520 --> 03:19:47,670 his hope. It's a different strategy for treating 3303 03:19:47,670 --> 03:19:48,750 Alzheimer's disease. 3304 03:19:48,840 --> 03:19:51,630 Dr. Lita Hansen is part of a team of scientists at 3305 03:19:51,630 --> 03:19:54,780 HealthPartners neuroscience center that has been testing the 3306 03:19:54,780 --> 03:19:58,110 effects of insulin on the brain. When someone has Alzheimer's 3307 03:19:58,110 --> 03:20:02,100 disease, insulin is greatly reduced leading to memory loss 3308 03:20:02,130 --> 03:20:05,220 not unlike a diabetic where you don't have enough insulin in the 3309 03:20:05,220 --> 03:20:09,600 body. Insulin allows the sugar to go into the cell and that 3310 03:20:09,600 --> 03:20:12,930 creates energy and your cells need energy to do their job. 3311 03:20:12,960 --> 03:20:16,170 HealthPartners doctors believe current Alzheimer's drugs can 3312 03:20:16,170 --> 03:20:19,290 lose their effectiveness when they are digested or put in the 3313 03:20:19,290 --> 03:20:23,490 bloodstream. So their solution is a direct shot through the 3314 03:20:23,490 --> 03:20:26,190 nose and into cells that connect to the brain. 3315 03:20:26,220 --> 03:20:29,820 Within 15 minutes of one spray of insulin in the nose. They saw 3316 03:20:29,820 --> 03:20:33,390 an improved ability to remember words, and remember stories. 3317 03:20:33,750 --> 03:20:35,610 Adam Curry: And apparently, when you administer it, you start to 3318 03:20:35,670 --> 03:20:36,120 talk. 3319 03:20:37,980 --> 03:20:42,600 John C. Dvorak: That's probably the rest of this report goes on. 3320 03:20:42,600 --> 03:20:46,950 But the rest of it was a native add to this spray called What's 3321 03:20:46,950 --> 03:20:50,430 it? What's it because it sounds like it was a never said, really 3322 03:20:50,850 --> 03:20:54,720 native. I'm telling you the whole thing. It was real 3323 03:20:54,720 --> 03:20:57,840 information to a point and then they switched over to a native 3324 03:20:57,840 --> 03:21:01,200 ad for the spraying device, which has some shares, not like 3325 03:21:01,200 --> 03:21:04,440 the normal spray where you squeeze it or you do anything. 3326 03:21:04,620 --> 03:21:07,590 It's some special little thing called the some or other 3327 03:21:07,590 --> 03:21:10,020 function. I do just cut that out. 3328 03:21:11,490 --> 03:21:15,750 Adam Curry: So former FBI Director, Jim James Comey 3329 03:21:16,230 --> 03:21:21,120 testifying before its Senate, yeah, because it's Lindsey 3330 03:21:21,120 --> 03:21:25,080 Graham's outfit. And they're asking him about the steel 3331 03:21:25,080 --> 03:21:33,870 dossier, which was, supposedly, the evidence that got the FISA 3332 03:21:33,870 --> 03:21:38,640 court warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. And Comey is 3333 03:21:38,700 --> 03:21:42,900 taking a page out of the book of many a politician or person in 3334 03:21:42,900 --> 03:21:46,980 trouble. And he just can't really recall 3335 03:21:47,010 --> 03:21:51,780 Unknown: Mr. Page denying knowing people that you accuse 3336 03:21:51,780 --> 03:21:53,460 him of having contact with. 3337 03:21:53,850 --> 03:21:56,970 I don't remember that. That's about all I recall. I don't 3338 03:21:56,970 --> 03:21:59,430 remember. I don't remember learning anything additional 3339 03:21:59,430 --> 03:22:03,840 about steel sources? Not that I recall. No, I don't remember or 3340 03:22:03,840 --> 03:22:06,120 ever hear. I don't recall that. 3341 03:22:06,120 --> 03:22:09,270 So do you recall? Do you recall? 3342 03:22:09,300 --> 03:22:12,060 I do not remember any discussions? Or I don't remember 3343 03:22:12,060 --> 03:22:14,580 using that word. But I don't remember using that word. I 3344 03:22:14,580 --> 03:22:17,490 don't remember ever being informed. I don't recall being 3345 03:22:17,490 --> 03:22:18,150 informed of that. 3346 03:22:18,180 --> 03:22:21,090 Did you ask any questions or do any due diligence on this at 3347 03:22:21,090 --> 03:22:21,390 all? 3348 03:22:21,600 --> 03:22:24,120 I don't remember anything about the facts that have been 3349 03:22:24,120 --> 03:22:26,880 revealed recently about the sub source. I don't remember the 3350 03:22:26,880 --> 03:22:31,020 exact words but something similar that spells with me, 3351 03:22:31,020 --> 03:22:33,990 okay. That's pretty stunning thing. didn't ring a bell, which 3352 03:22:33,990 --> 03:22:36,240 I'm sure you remember. I don't remember the exact words. I 3353 03:22:36,270 --> 03:22:38,580 don't remember the weather. I knew the Democratic Party. I 3354 03:22:38,580 --> 03:22:41,040 don't know for sure. I don't know. I don't think I knew 3355 03:22:41,040 --> 03:22:44,370 before. I remember reading the footnote. I don't know whether I 3356 03:22:44,370 --> 03:22:46,710 asked I don't know what that refers to. As I said earlier, 3357 03:22:46,710 --> 03:22:49,020 that does not ring any bells with me when I read that? I 3358 03:22:49,020 --> 03:22:51,450 don't remember it. I don't. I don't remember receiving 3359 03:22:51,450 --> 03:22:53,310 anything. It's described in that letter. 3360 03:22:53,340 --> 03:22:57,120 You know, Mr. Comey? I call that selective memory. 3361 03:22:57,690 --> 03:23:02,070 Adam Curry: Okay, clear. So he didn't recall a lot, although I 3362 03:23:02,070 --> 03:23:04,830 find it peculiar that some people will ask him if you 3363 03:23:04,830 --> 03:23:09,480 recall something. Why is his lead the witness? How about do 3364 03:23:09,480 --> 03:23:13,020 they want to do you remember? The giving him the actual out? 3365 03:23:13,050 --> 03:23:14,190 Do you recall? 3366 03:23:15,810 --> 03:23:17,790 John C. Dvorak: There was That's a good point. That's very, 3367 03:23:17,820 --> 03:23:19,440 that's poor form. You're right. 3368 03:23:19,890 --> 03:23:21,540 Adam Curry: I don't know who was asking it. But it wouldn't 3369 03:23:21,540 --> 03:23:24,810 surprise me if there were some soft ballers in the on the 3370 03:23:24,810 --> 03:23:29,340 panel. There was one bit that I thought was very funny. This is 3371 03:23:29,340 --> 03:23:34,260 Comey. Just lying, getting caught in it within 50 Say 49 3372 03:23:34,260 --> 03:23:34,800 seconds. 3373 03:23:34,830 --> 03:23:37,890 Unknown: Okay. When did you first learn about the existence 3374 03:23:37,890 --> 03:23:39,120 of the steel dossier 3375 03:23:39,300 --> 03:23:42,900 sometime towards the end of September of 2016. Do you agree 3376 03:23:42,900 --> 03:23:43,140 with 3377 03:23:43,140 --> 03:23:47,460 Mr. Horowitz, that the dossier was central and essential to the 3378 03:23:47,460 --> 03:23:50,430 Carter Page, FISA warrant application being approved? I 3379 03:23:50,490 --> 03:23:53,340 agree that it was important. I can't tell you whether it was 3380 03:23:53,340 --> 03:23:56,040 essential. And by that I mean, that wouldn't have been granted 3381 03:23:56,040 --> 03:23:57,750 without the steel information. Let's 3382 03:23:57,750 --> 03:24:00,000 go through the application. There are two parts to the 3383 03:24:00,000 --> 03:24:03,390 application. Was there an effort to get a warrant approved 3384 03:24:03,420 --> 03:24:04,980 without using the dossier? 3385 03:24:05,010 --> 03:24:07,770 Yes. My understanding is in the summer they asked DOJ whether 3386 03:24:07,770 --> 03:24:08,730 they would support 3387 03:24:08,760 --> 03:24:11,430 moving forward on a warrant application and they said no 3388 03:24:11,430 --> 03:24:13,650 right and correct. That's my understanding from the Horowitz 3389 03:24:13,650 --> 03:24:17,160 report. Then you add the dossier all of a sudden they say yes to 3390 03:24:17,160 --> 03:24:19,530 the Warren application. Is that a fair statement? 3391 03:24:19,590 --> 03:24:22,500 I think it's fair to say that DOJ decided to move forward 3392 03:24:22,500 --> 03:24:24,570 after this information was part of 3393 03:24:26,130 --> 03:24:27,900 Adam Curry: this does anyone hear this? 3394 03:24:28,710 --> 03:24:32,190 John C. Dvorak: Wow. In fact just finished the show with this 3395 03:24:32,370 --> 03:24:33,720 that's the Clip of the Day 3396 03:24:33,779 --> 03:24:36,689 Adam Curry: oh you are you are you are just wait to Karen's 3397 03:24:42,239 --> 03:24:48,719 Alrighty then, please also mentioned What a douche bag, an 3398 03:24:48,719 --> 03:24:51,509 incredible douche and there's a lot more douchey that we have 3399 03:24:51,509 --> 03:24:54,389 for you on Sunday show. 3400 03:24:55,680 --> 03:24:59,730 And it's going to be fun. That's just the hits do not stop. It's 3401 03:24:59,730 --> 03:25:04,980 how It is thinking for end of show clips, since he did create 3402 03:25:05,010 --> 03:25:11,790 a new version of it. Sir Chris Wilson he's got an amygdala ABS 3403 03:25:11,790 --> 03:25:14,790 Actually no. Gonna have to move it again one more day since we 3404 03:25:14,790 --> 03:25:18,780 have too much to play here. We've got Danny loose. We've got 3405 03:25:18,780 --> 03:25:25,410 Sir David dimensi B. And we have Neil Jones. And those are under 3406 03:25:25,410 --> 03:25:28,890 Show mixes with Chris Wilson in the works. It's just as four 3407 03:25:28,890 --> 03:25:34,170 minutes. We'd love Chris. Coming to you from the opportunity zone 3408 03:25:34,170 --> 03:25:37,470 33 Here in the frontier of Austin, Texas capital the drone 3409 03:25:37,470 --> 03:25:40,350 Star State FEMA Region number six on all of the governmental 3410 03:25:40,350 --> 03:25:44,460 maps application looking it up for some monkey business in the 3411 03:25:44,460 --> 03:25:46,260 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 3412 03:25:46,530 --> 03:25:48,660 John C. Dvorak: and I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where 3413 03:25:48,660 --> 03:25:53,190 yes, we still have fires a burden on Jhansi Dvorak remember 3414 03:25:53,190 --> 03:25:53,370 us 3415 03:25:53,370 --> 03:25:57,780 Adam Curry: at DeVore act.org/na to support the show and until 3416 03:25:58,170 --> 03:26:01,800 Sunday we say adios to mofos 3417 03:26:03,270 --> 03:26:07,890 and you think he's 3418 03:26:09,090 --> 03:26:11,160 John C. Dvorak: not making accusations at all? 3419 03:26:11,400 --> 03:26:18,870 Adam Curry: Bumpy Joe? Hello Jaiden 3420 03:26:26,790 --> 03:26:29,400 John C. Dvorak: there's probably 10 times he doesn't and he goes 3421 03:26:29,400 --> 03:26:32,310 in that way are you going to kind of rub the nose or you're 3422 03:26:32,310 --> 03:26:32,880 grabbing 3423 03:26:35,820 --> 03:26:53,070 Adam Curry: guidance guidance cocaine getting the 3424 03:26:53,070 --> 03:26:56,970 Unknown: paycheck it's not right. Getting the paycheck. 3425 03:26:58,140 --> 03:27:02,100 Everybody pays their fair share in the paycheck it's not right 3426 03:27:03,390 --> 03:27:22,410 he pays their fair share real real now Bernie Sanders punish 3427 03:27:22,410 --> 03:27:24,660 anybody Bernie Sanders 3428 03:27:25,530 --> 03:27:26,400 John C. Dvorak: that's not the problem. 3429 03:27:27,270 --> 03:27:32,760 Unknown: The paycheck right it's not right. Paycheck to everybody 3430 03:27:32,760 --> 03:27:33,780 pays their fair shake or. 3431 03:27:43,290 --> 03:27:49,770 Transmit transmission has never been of outbreaks. The driver of 3432 03:27:49,830 --> 03:27:58,800 outbreaks is always symptomatic person in the 90s are quite 3433 03:27:58,800 --> 03:28:05,850 clear. In 66 similar side effects we keep having six hours 3434 03:28:05,850 --> 03:28:06,780 in the 60s see 3435 03:28:06,780 --> 03:28:08,700 bluebird slow but 3436 03:28:09,450 --> 03:28:13,440 that was the worst answer he's ever given for any question sick 3437 03:28:13,440 --> 03:28:19,860 person. An epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers 3438 03:28:20,670 --> 03:28:31,230 see that we record these things we keep the website alerted. So 3439 03:28:31,290 --> 03:28:37,890 we sort of had to discover it on our own brief. Language 3440 03:28:37,920 --> 03:28:39,600 is suddenly passed 3441 03:28:43,710 --> 03:28:51,870 by the team of scholars on staging gas cans a mouse mouse 3442 03:28:51,870 --> 03:28:56,220 and flu is. 3443 03:29:09,630 --> 03:29:13,830 mopho.org/and a 3444 03:29:15,510 --> 03:29:18,060 very fine people on both sides.