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Adam Curry: I don't like
schools. Adam curry Jhansi

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Devorah they march this 2023
This your award winning nation

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media assassination episode
1535. This is no agenda.

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harboring you from Havana
syndrome man broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in the region

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number six. Morning everybody.
I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I've

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discovered that one teaspoon
equals five milliliters. I'm

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John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Having grown up in
in Europe and being completely

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decimate alized. Is that a word?
Yeah, Metro Metro sized, was

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decimated. Now, that's always
after the show where I'm

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decimated. I you know, I have
the biggest problem with ounces

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and teaspoons and tablespoons. I
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I have no idea. I mean, the fact
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was five milliliters that that
that must be a fluke.

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John C Dvorak: I've decided to
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educational, I

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Adam Curry: liked that I liked
that we used to do Confucius

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says I think the educational
part is good. The and these are

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handy tips you can use around
the house and the kitchen. Too,

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I'd like it as a good idea.

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John C Dvorak: Well, the way you
get around, I know what you're

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talking about about this, you
know, because you look at a lot

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of recipes. There's European
Wednesday, never, they don't

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care about ounces or anything,
pretty much. And so you got to

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find a good one good program
somewhere that's a converter.

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And you just keep looking it up
over and over and over again

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until you get to know how many
ounces are in a quart and how

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many ounces are in a leader.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, or you can
just use, you know, not use

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liters at all. Just Just use
your ounces. Use your measuring

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cups. The stuff that is tried

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John C Dvorak: measuring cups
have it on both sides now. Oh,

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really? You again? Yes. Really?
shrinkable usually has cups? No.

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And the other side? Is the
middle of the year out of

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Adam Curry: here. Where can I
get such a fine instrument,

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Amazon? I need this in my life.
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John C Dvorak: let me get one of
those cool measuring capsule,

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when you put it in the
dishwasher, it washes off all

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the ink or whatever the paint
that's on there. And what had

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this what happened,

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Adam Curry: whatever that stuff
is, it's probably not not good

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for you. Good. Ladies and
gentlemen. This is a value for

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value program. And I'd like to
start off by explaining why we

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are value for value, which means
we do a show it creates value.

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You receive that value if it's
valuable to you, if not why you

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listening go away. If it is then
return that in time, talent or

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treasure because we don't want
creepy corporations. We don't

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want ads we want to be able to
speak freely. You know this was

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not a not an ad for an Amazon
measuring cup. But here is a

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perfect example the perfect
example of two things one, why

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you do not want advertising in
your programming because it will

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it will take over the
programming. And it also gives

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us a perfect example of why tick
tock is very, very dangerous to

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the rest of advertising based
media particularly Google,

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Facebook, Twitter, etc. tock
tick tock. Now you may have seen

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this, this article but the
Genesis is right here on NBC

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Today Show. This is the
McDonald's native ad hoax.

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Unknown: Can we go from French
fries to a fit guy? That's we're

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finding out 100 days of nothing
but McDonald's,

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let's go. Go and eat her that
correctly. Kevin McGinnis from

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Nashville has quickly become a
viral Tick, tick tick tock

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sensation for documenting his
very unique diet journey he's

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eating as you heard nothing but
McDonald's for 100 straight

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days. And so far, he says he's
loving it. We're gonna talk to

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Kevin in just a moment. But
first, here's how it all

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started. I woke up this morning.
And I weighed in at 238 pounds.

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And I decided that that is
absolutely unacceptable. So I

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drove down to McDonald's. I'm
going to eat nothing but

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McDonald's for the next 100
days. But instead of eating

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everything they give me I'm
gonna go ahead and cut the meals

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in

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half. And he's here with us now,
Kevin, good morning to you.

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Morning. You found him on TV.

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I was watching tick tock and oh
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He was disgusted with himself.
He wanted to finally put his

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foot down on his weight. So he
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drove to McDonald's. And I
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interesting, and I'm following
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I think what really hooked me
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Absolutely working. We're gonna
come up with this idea.

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Adam Curry: All right, let's
just break this down. on for a

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moment, in a no a no morning
show world does Carson Daly get

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to determine a segment about
McDonald's ever, ever. That is a

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plant from McDonald's. The guy's
tick tock videos have McDonald's

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logos on it superimposed. And
then to add insult to injury, we

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throw in the slogan Oh, I'm
loving it. What a hoax. Now, I

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will say, if I eat McDonald's
just one time, I lose weight to

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because I'm just a pass through
guy in that case. So I mean,

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that's very possible. But wow,
what a scam. This is and it's so

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blatant. Have you seen this?

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John C Dvorak: I saw one. I saw
one version of it. I didn't turn

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it into a no agenda segment
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remiss because you're right.
This is a native ad is very well

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produced. I don't know if I call
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ads, native ads. But they've
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incredibly creative. I far as
I'm concerned. Or kudos to

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whoever dreamed this one out.
And I know people that can do

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this kind of work and they work
in there. They're not normal

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advertising people they are they
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definitely they're special.
There's definitely stuff and

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they come up with this idea,
these ideas and then they have

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to sell them to the client,
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McDonald's. And then they have
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harder to sell to the client,
McDonald's than it is to the

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people taking the money. Yeah,
they just take the money and

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they follow orders.

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Adam Curry: I think that it's
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in the in the advertising world
I have and it's also in the

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shownotes an important slide
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they are pitching a switching
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and others to tick tock and the
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why now, you know, the kinds of
slides right, it's like, great.

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Here's a slide. Why now an older
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John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, where
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a tick tock deck. No, it's

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Adam Curry: an agency deck. I'm
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John C Dvorak: agency deck
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The same. I'm sure this this
this deck and they always

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spelled de que these. This deck
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Adam Curry: would think you're
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older audience is moving to Tik
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39 21% are 40 to 50 and 61% are
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John C Dvorak: Oh, there you go.
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Adam Curry: Tick tock is the
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2020. And this is this is meant
to discredit the other ones in

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2022 downloads surpassed
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that's that's, that is what you
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client to say clearly tiktoks a
better place on the move on the

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trending Stranding. And here's
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watching tick tock videos then
on Netflix viewer spend an

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average of 99 zero minutes per
day on GTalk Wow, we're lost.

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We're lost. We're lost as a
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why we need to get rid of tick
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so many so much pushback on this
people saying no man that's not

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true. Because all the Patriots
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because you know all the stuff
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but on tick tock is not getting
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John C Dvorak: Hey, can I
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go on tick tock once every two
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to see because I'm cookie list.
I'm not. I don't I just go jump

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on it out of the blue. But
sometimes I come in from

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somebody else's. You know,
somebody says Look at this. And

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so I can think of a few people
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watch tic tac all the time it
seems you know who you are. So I

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go on there and they will and I
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I watched the one thing okay
when I can maybe I can get a

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clip out of that. Maybe I can't.
And now I let it go for about

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five or 10 minutes so I can see
what's coming up after an after

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and after the mount of at least
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latched on to the amount of
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Yeah, it's one video after
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one I got the biggest kick out
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these was this guy. So how did
we elect this idiot? This guy's

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a scumbag and it just says Biden
walk and stay are staggering

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around. And it's going on and
on. This guy's just just

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demeaning Biden as much as he
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it'd be something very similar,
right? And they're all pro

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Trump. Oh, yeah.

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Adam Curry: So it's definitely
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reason that's why I think we can
push back of course, of course,

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but you know, the, the actual
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Okay. If this was a turn off for
advertisers, then they will get

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rid of it. Trust me. That's how
it always works. I also did the

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earth ritual, not this not
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but the withdrawal smears, which
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John C Dvorak: Splenda. Yeah, we

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Adam Curry: talked about on the
last episode we did. Now I

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remember this controversy back
in the pod show days 2006 2007

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splendor was one of our first
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had a whole sheet that explained
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you know, it's going to kill you
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this this thing has been around
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this researching now? Now, it
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advertising products in the
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really good one. From one of our
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made hugely popular by adherence
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diets. He said, like the
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to be true, because I know
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mean, I think the last five
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up and up and up. You know, to
me, it's just like, Oh, his

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addict, it really is his people
to go nuts over keto. And so

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part of the keto diet is a
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earth or tall or Splenda, in
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or your tea, or maybe you're
cooking. And the accusation here

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is that this is actually a way
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Now, I'm not sure if that's 100%
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association. Because we have to
get rid of actual animal protein

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and meat, you know, we have to
prepare people for the future of

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John C Dvorak: Well, this trend
is going just the opposite

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direction. What do you mean?
These diets are making people

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eat just pure protein and fat

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Adam Curry: Right? Right. So
they want people off of that

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John C Dvorak: well, to go as
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Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just
saying it's one answer to the

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question as to why now and I
just don't see a competing

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product in the market yet it
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John C Dvorak: could become a
try these other things like with

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sets of seven all or Steven
suffer others, stevia, stevia,

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stevia, stevia, and it's bitter.
You know, it's sweet and bitter,

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so that's no good. I don't know
they got to esperto army or

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whatever this called aspartame.

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Adam Curry: Aspartame,
aspartame, aspartame.

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John C Dvorak: You know, you
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while? Yes. punani. Maybe, man,
you know what I like for my

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sweetener is maple syrup. Once
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using maple syrup. He used maple
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Adam Curry: Can I tell you a
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John C Dvorak: Lloyd do it. You
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Adam Curry: bake salmon in the
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salmon. I'll drizzle just a
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syrup on salmon. Yeah, just
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there. Quite nice. Why don't we
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Africa. Now we've had the
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sure the Dutch are in there. Of
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US everyone everyone's in Athens
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everyone, but what are we really
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my desk. Well, I don't really
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I'm like, oh yeah, this makes a
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future. It's not being built in
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fuels. That's the promise. When
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economy and climate Minister Oba
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imperialism. Big trucks for
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company promises that the local
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Adam Curry: Now I'm sure that
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hydrogen as the champagne of
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a good
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champagne. In fact, we did a
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of months ago when this first
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overlooked in this store is it
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wind and some solar No, I don't
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panels and they're pretty much
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countryside as they can and then
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at the Create they use the
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the coast. Yeah, to break up the
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big tanker and then hauled to
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Adam Curry: I also don't think
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energy honestly. You nuclear
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believe it. But how about they
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coal plants. And we'll just say,
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go in and do this. And maybe
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maybe who knows? What if it's,
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seem like a lot by the way to
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it seems like it's realistic.
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to know if the solar panels can
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hydrolysis that no and on any
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John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure
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but you still have the problem
with hydrogen it's a terrible

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product isn't leeches through
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is going to catch on fire one of
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the ass to work with.

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Adam Curry: It's like Hindenburg
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John C Dvorak: Berg ship.

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Adam Curry: Is that the only way
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John C Dvorak: I can't think of
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it's coming from Africa, yeah,
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man, they get it some
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not going to turn it into liquid
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pain in the butt. Because this
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Adam Curry: Well, I just I
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story is how it was really,
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it fits in perfectly. Now
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us and it's moving in so fast
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which we know are intended
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change, now that the cat is out
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these 15 minute cities are
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came out with a 10 minute piece
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cities are, well, what they're
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minute cities, the idea is that
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public transport or walk to
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life can, can provide that you
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15 minutes. Now, what comes on
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and barriers that make sure that
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fined. And that is based upon
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doing now, and the BBC did a
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that down to two minutes, which
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the pertinent pieces in there.
They are now twisting this and

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saying, This is a conspiracy
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conspiracy theory none of its
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see that they're twisting it by
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climate change lockdown, which
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locked in your house. That's not
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aren't about that. Have a
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different? What if we

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Adam Curry: could create a new
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Again, this is the BBC health
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all within a 15 minute walk or
cycle theory. The idea of 15

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minutes cities have spread to
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Korea, attracted by the promise
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quality of life. But it's also
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that travel outside these
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restricted sort of climate
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of climate lockdown first
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news of the lockdowns in Wuhan
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pandemic first broke into
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terminology came from a set of
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linked to a fossil fuel think
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Adam Curry: Have we ever heard
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Institute be being no being the
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John C Dvorak: no, the source as
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Adam Curry: Thank you, Ben, the
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that imagines this future of so
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tyranny, where individual civil
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under the pretext of solving
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cities have been drawn into this
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misinformation has recently led
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criticism has also been leveled
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aware of what's happening and
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know what's happening. You can
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conspiracy theories. Theories

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a wider point in all this
though, behavioral change is

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seen by many experts as a
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and binding climate targets. The
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binding climate targets
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the government to create plans
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and help change people's diets.
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conspiracy shows how these kinds
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Adam Curry: love this so they're
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trying to motivate people to
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no more meat, fake meat etc
change their travel which means

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no airplanes don't go outside
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they're actually gonna say yeah,
this is important work we're

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John C Dvorak: if you back it up
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crazy things which resulted in
people complaining which she

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better believe it. And S and she
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conspiracy theory. Yes. She
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in all this though. behavioral

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change is seen by many experts
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the UK is legally binding
climate targets. The UK climate

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change committee has for
example, urged the government to

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create plans to reduce demand
for air travel and help change

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people's diets. This recent
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these kinds of policies are
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Adam Curry: your rights you
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consent, did you say an
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John C Dvorak: like that it was
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though. First they say, we like
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houses in a little area when
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they can't travel, they can't,
and we're going to eliminate air

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travel, they're going to have to
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people think that this is a
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Adam Curry: the crazy nutters,

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of policies are communicated,
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transparent about nudges, so if
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some policy proposals are
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behavior, and what the
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ways, if you actually state what
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transparent and honest about it.
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of those types of initiatives at
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John C Dvorak: we forgot about
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nudge agency and they did these
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Adam Curry: why I left it in.
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WhatsApp gate. Which is the the
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Hancock, over there in the UK,
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was discussing all of these
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went much further, saying things
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the new strain or a communicate
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those, though, right? I saw that
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everyone with the new strain.
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weren't releasing new strains,
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people. And when we do deploy
the new variant, and I think

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deploy the tried the messaging
about the new variant, you know,

441
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they're not actually deploying
new variant, although I wouldn't

442
00:26:56,550 --> 00:27:00,390
put it past these creeps. And
then stuff like more mask

443
00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:04,440
wearing might be the only thing
to consider. Yes, effective,

444
00:27:04,530 --> 00:27:08,220
free and has a very visible
visible impact, wearing masks

445
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:10,860
and all settings outside the
home and in more workplaces.

446
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:19,020
This is going to work for us. So
that does show the lunacy of

447
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:19,710
these people.

448
00:27:20,429 --> 00:27:24,629
John C Dvorak: And what is this
about? legally required climate

449
00:27:24,629 --> 00:27:27,419
targets whatever she said at the
beginning of her speech? Oh,

450
00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:30,000
Adam Curry: that's all agenda 51
stuff. That's bull crap.

451
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John C Dvorak: What's that?
What's? What's that? What

452
00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:35,070
happens if you don't do it? Well
get a ticket. Yeah, you have to

453
00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:37,980
pay you have to go see a
constable. What do you have to

454
00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:38,460
do here?

455
00:27:39,389 --> 00:27:41,729
Adam Curry: You got shamed. You
could shame that the next

456
00:27:41,729 --> 00:27:47,279
meeting in Paris. Hey, you I've
not been doing your work. No

457
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:52,049
pure hairdo for you. Of course,
this is exactly what you know,

458
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:57,839
agenda 21 is about and all of
these, all of these agreements

459
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at the United Nations level. Of
course, all the climate stuff is

460
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all legally binding. Because we
have agreements. We have

461
00:28:04,859 --> 00:28:10,379
resolutions, we signed off on
stuff. And this is why you have

462
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the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan,
who is pushing as another

463
00:28:15,059 --> 00:28:21,779
climate change policy, which is
what is this thing called? It's

464
00:28:21,779 --> 00:28:31,829
the Ulez Ultra Low Emission zone
Ulez that London should be an

465
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ultra low emission zone Ulez.
And what does that mean? Battery

466
00:28:36,899 --> 00:28:41,039
cars, of course, are better
hydrogen cars clean green

467
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,359
hydrogen high. So during
people's Question Time, which is

468
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:50,639
an open forum, where people can
question the mayor. He decided

469
00:28:50,639 --> 00:28:54,569
it was best to shame these
people who are against the idea

470
00:28:54,569 --> 00:28:58,679
of only battery cars or hydrogen
cars being allowed into London.

471
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And he did it with a couple of
good old tropes.

472
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Unknown: So objections in 2006
we banned smoking from public

473
00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:10,020
places and their objections.
Now, what I find unacceptable,

474
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,990
though, is some of those who've
got legitimate objections,

475
00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:17,670
joining hands with some of those
outside who are part of a far

476
00:29:17,670 --> 00:29:18,630
right group.

477
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:28,590
Let's be frank, that's cool.
Let's call a spade a spade. Some

478
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of those outside are part of the
fall, right? Summer, summer

479
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:40,020
deniers deniers summer Tories

480
00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:50,220
Adam Curry: if you're against
Ultra Low Emission zone, then

481
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you are anti Vax anti COVID And
you're a Tory.

482
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:59,850
Unknown: The man has a right to
be heard right. Don't look this

483
00:29:59,850 --> 00:30:03,660
way. In this people's question
time, it's up to you to have a

484
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:06,840
change of views, lots of
macrocell, please, otherwise we

485
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,090
will we can we could enter this
very, very quickly.

486
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Adam Curry: If you'd if you keep
doing that, we're just gonna end

487
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,530
it. We're just gonna not talk
any more to you. Okay, we can do

488
00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:14,370
that whenever we want

489
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,090
Unknown: to those people, to
those people who've got

490
00:30:18,090 --> 00:30:25,620
legitimate concerns by the fact,
some of you, I've got good

491
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:30,660
reasons to oppose you less. But
you're in coalition with COVID

492
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:35,280
deniers, again, coalition. You
may not like it. You may not

493
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,790
like it. You may not like it.
You may like you're in coalition

494
00:30:42,150 --> 00:30:47,700
with the far right. You're in
coalition with vaccine tonight

495
00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:48,180
as well.

496
00:30:51,330 --> 00:30:55,890
John C Dvorak: So even if you're
not far right, a vaccine denier

497
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anything that's fringe from his
perspective, and you have a good

498
00:31:00,450 --> 00:31:04,110
reason for disliking this idea,
and there's probably plenty.

499
00:31:04,770 --> 00:31:09,570
You're no good. You're just as
bad as those people. Yeah,

500
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:11,910
pretty. So this is not a
question and answer time.

501
00:31:11,939 --> 00:31:13,469
Adam Curry: Now, this is a
scolding time.

502
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,890
John C Dvorak: This is nonsense.
This guy stinks. I you know, the

503
00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:21,510
fact that he's Mayor of London
or anything, I mean, he's he's

504
00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:23,730
like Trudeau. He's almost like a
Trudeau.

505
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, only Trudeau
won't let you yell at him like

506
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:31,290
that. He just won't he just
won't show up for that stuff.

507
00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:38,310
Now, I got one more clip here.
And and this is really about,

508
00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:45,510
about the warming of the earth.
Well, maybe I should set up this

509
00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:50,460
way. Have we seen incredible
warming of California in the

510
00:31:50,460 --> 00:31:51,240
past month?

511
00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:57,180
John C Dvorak: Let me interrupt
your clip edge. Okay. With a

512
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clip. Oh, very good. And the
clip will be just because

513
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:07,290
elucidates your point. Yes. I
have. California under

514
00:32:07,290 --> 00:32:09,600
California snowed in

515
00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:13,080
Unknown: in the San Bernardino
area of California residents say

516
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,780
they are frustrated by the
response to winter weather

517
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:19,380
that's dumped record snowfall
and back to back storms. People

518
00:32:19,380 --> 00:32:22,140
are still trapped in their
homes. Grocery stores are

519
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:26,550
running out of food. Some roads
remain closed. Nina Clark works

520
00:32:26,550 --> 00:32:29,310
at the Community Market in Big
Bear where supplies are

521
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:30,150
dwindling.

522
00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:32,880
It feels like it's the end of
the world or something like

523
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,930
we're like we're just being
completely ignored and forgotten

524
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:37,380
about.

525
00:32:37,470 --> 00:32:40,140
And Tanya Henkelman is a
coordinator of a civilian

526
00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:43,620
response that's been collecting
donations, and then using either

527
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:47,520
helicopters or snowmobiles to
deliver much needed food. She

528
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,500
says Help is being coordinated

529
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:53,640
have notifications of newborns
that have no food available.

530
00:32:54,990 --> 00:33:00,150
kits that are starving. And it's
heartbreaking to see how we

531
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:02,970
civilians have taken upon to do
the job.

532
00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:04,710
More snow is forecast

533
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:07,590
Adam Curry: this weekend. In the
time that you've lived in

534
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:11,310
California, which has been quite
a while. Have you ever witnessed

535
00:33:11,310 --> 00:33:14,100
this type of record breaking
snowfall?

536
00:33:14,490 --> 00:33:16,080
John C Dvorak: I get no is it
winter?

537
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:20,820
Adam Curry: Winter I mean
there's trapped California

538
00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:23,610
mountain residents plead for
help snowed in and

539
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,740
John C Dvorak: nobody's giving
him any help either. It's like

540
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:30,510
too bad. You know, your your
gear is warming don't exhaust

541
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:34,260
Adam Curry: Exactly. How does
that report gel with this one

542
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:35,160
from Deutsche Avella.

543
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:38,070
Unknown: A new analysis of
global co2 emissions put out by

544
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:41,610
the International Energy Agency
is a mix of both good and bad

545
00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:45,690
news. Oh, the headline figure is
a record high for energy related

546
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:50,670
emissions in 2022 to almost 37
billion tons. That's nearly a

547
00:33:50,670 --> 00:33:54,090
full percent more than the prior
year. On the bright side, rising

548
00:33:54,090 --> 00:33:56,760
clean technologies, including
solar cells and battery powered

549
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,880
vehicles help limit overall
emissions. Oh, those

550
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,970
technologies are poised to play
an even greater role in the

551
00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:06,360
years ahead. That's according to
the report. Alright, because

552
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,300
Jonah is an energy researcher at
the Regensburg University of

553
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,240
Applied Sciences. He joins me
for more, because thank you for

554
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:17,250
coming to the show. The IEA says
that recovery from the COVID 19

555
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:21,660
pandemic is proving more
sustainable than past crises. Do

556
00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:24,390
you see that there is indeed
good news in this report? Are we

557
00:34:24,390 --> 00:34:28,290
just so desperate to find a
silver lining, when overall

558
00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:30,690
energy related emissions
actually went up?

559
00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:33,780
Now, I think it's really good
news because the energy

560
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:36,480
transition is already working.
Without this, we would have

561
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,730
three times more emission
raising.

562
00:34:39,630 --> 00:34:42,150
Adam Curry: It's already
working, you're soaking in and

563
00:34:42,150 --> 00:34:42,930
match so it's

564
00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:45,180
Unknown: already helping and
reaching our climate goals,

565
00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:49,710
reducing energy independence in
dependency, and stabilize our

566
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:52,860
economy. I mean, there are
feelings of tons of co2 avoided

567
00:34:52,860 --> 00:34:56,580
billions of euros that don't go
through the pipelines to Russia

568
00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:59,790
but remain in our economic and
your European German economy.

569
00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:03,330
This Stay here, they create jobs
to create welfare. That's the

570
00:35:03,330 --> 00:35:07,560
good side. But we also like to
discuss the IRA, we need to

571
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,820
stabilize that by doing right
policy making

572
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:15,420
Adam Curry: sure if I understand
it, we've actually been too

573
00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:18,210
successful because you know,
people are trapped and can't get

574
00:35:18,210 --> 00:35:22,230
out of Northern California,
because it's all working so

575
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:28,140
well. I mean, and we still had,
I mean, this should be warming

576
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:32,490
the crap out of everything, but
it's not I'm baffled I don't

577
00:35:32,490 --> 00:35:33,180
understand.

578
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:38,670
John C Dvorak: Because it's a
hoax. I think you can go back to

579
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,290
the global cooling days and

580
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:43,890
Adam Curry: yes, I'm ready to
believe that Oh, you don't even

581
00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:48,720
believe it's because of co2.
That makes more sense it just

582
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,470
logically because of more
greenhouse gases, it's going

583
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:56,640
we're going into a global
cooling that was the promise in

584
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,450
the 70s

585
00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:02,220
John C Dvorak: but wasn't due to
the greenhouse gases it was

586
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:07,020
reflections and and the
reflection off especially about

587
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:11,460
off the north pole as more snow
increase it reflected more heat

588
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:16,290
off the Earth had a bigger area
so that area reflected the sun

589
00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:20,370
and that would cause the cooling
effect and once it began and the

590
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:26,880
once the I mean from what I've
seen the glaciers have been

591
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,950
retreating. And I think that's
true which is good. We don't

592
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:34,500
want glaciers they're no good

593
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,170
Adam Curry: they're annoying
they get in

594
00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:41,040
John C Dvorak: the way and then
if those things stop retreating

595
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,490
and start going in the other
direction we're in trouble

596
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:54,330
that's I'm on the lookout for
Hmm good yes it's it's been the

597
00:36:54,330 --> 00:36:57,060
weather here has been it's
actually been quite nice around

598
00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:59,550
here because what it does it
rains for two days and is clear

599
00:36:59,550 --> 00:37:02,910
and sunny for two days in a
range like gal the current sunny

600
00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:06,840
so you don't have flooding and
but all that rain every time the

601
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,230
two days comes around. It rains
here but then it goes up to the

602
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:14,850
mountains and dumps a ton like
yesterday down five feet. Yeah

603
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:23,310
of snow in march up the mountain
is snowing a lot. Well, is that

604
00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:24,720
your weather report for
yesterday?

605
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,640
Adam Curry: That's what I have
for today. Yes, yes. That's what

606
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,170
I have for last time Ukrainian

607
00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:31,530
John C Dvorak: stuff I want to
get out with but I first of all

608
00:37:31,530 --> 00:37:37,920
I want to get I have a series of
clips. Okay. From Bill Browder.

609
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,050
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Bill
Browder is is the guy who got

610
00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:46,050
kicked out of Russia got put on
the no entry list. And

611
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:47,520
apparently all his money was
stolen.

612
00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:52,980
John C Dvorak: It's even it's
worth reading his wiki page. I

613
00:37:53,010 --> 00:37:55,320
recommend it's like reading a
novel.

614
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:59,910
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. It's true
crime drama. It's phenomenal.

615
00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:00,450
What this guy's

616
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:08,730
John C Dvorak: absolves as you
US citizenship. He's become a UK

617
00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:12,510
citizen. He has diminished ski,
whatever it is, the bunch of

618
00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:17,490
laws were passed. Because his
lawyer was murdered by the

619
00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:20,400
Russians, and it's just a damn
story. Interesting story. But

620
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,080
he, for all practical purposes
hates the Russians. Oh, yes.

621
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Yes. Yeah. Particularly the one
behind the idea that we should

622
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,820
steal their money.

623
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:36,960
Adam Curry: Okay, are you gonna
prove to me that I'm wrong? Is

624
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,040
that what this is about?

625
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:40,469
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
you did. That was wrong. But you

626
00:38:40,469 --> 00:38:43,889
said it was not you. We could do
it. But he himself says we

627
00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:48,419
can't. No, no. Sovereign
immunity to

628
00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:52,050
Adam Curry: correction, small
correction. I said, they are

629
00:38:52,050 --> 00:38:55,290
doing everything they can to
change whatever international

630
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,770
law is to be able to do it.
That's exactly what I said.

631
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,720
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
disagree with that. But I don't

632
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,330
think they're, they're making
that much of an effort that you

633
00:39:06,330 --> 00:39:09,180
might believe, okay, I think
there's this guy and a bunch of

634
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,320
other people making noise is not
going to happen. It'd be funny

635
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,700
if it did, but let's listen to
him. He's on. He's on. Mmm. Poor

636
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:25,200
show. Yes. And he's being
interviewed by Walter Isaacson

637
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:27,990
statuary, Eisen, whatever his
name is the guy who did the

638
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:30,960
Steve Jobs biography, the guy
who's got the white hair and as

639
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,680
azimoff,

640
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Adam Curry: wasn't it? No one
says no,

641
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,330
John C Dvorak: no, I isn't. The
guy who did?

642
00:39:38,070 --> 00:39:39,780
Adam Curry: I hear you that he's
a

643
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,330
John C Dvorak: he looks to be a
spook, as far as I'm concerned.

644
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:43,560
The head of the Aspen Institute.

645
00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:47,100
Adam Curry: Isaacson, Walter
Isaacson, exactly controls.

646
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:52,350
John C Dvorak: So here we go.
This is kind of interesting.

647
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:56,160
Then it goes on and goes. I've
got a lot of clips, but the ads

648
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,160
are not short, but they're not
long, but they're interesting

649
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,450
and I think you'll like it. This
is Bill Browder, one money from

650
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:04,050
Russia.

651
00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:07,680
Unknown: We could isolate Russia
much further than we're

652
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,760
currently doing. If we said to
everybody, you know, it's either

653
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,360
us or them, and and everybody
always votes with their feet and

654
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,580
votes with the money when it
comes right down to it. We

655
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:20,580
haven't put that to them. We
haven't been toughen that way.

656
00:40:20,610 --> 00:40:22,830
That's one thing we could do.
There's one other thing which

657
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:26,400
I've been going around the world
talking about, which I think

658
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,100
would make a big difference in
the war in Ukraine, which is

659
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:32,490
that after the war started, the
first thing the Western

660
00:40:32,490 --> 00:40:36,210
governments did was we thought
we froze $350 billion, oh,

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reserves, the war has done one,
at least a trillion, maybe $1.2

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trillion of damage to Ukraine.
Russia has done the damage, we

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have custody their money,
instead of just having that

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money frozen, that money should
be confiscated, and handed over

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to the Ukrainians both for their
defense and their

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reconstruction. Good and broke
it, he should fix it. That's

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probably the single biggest
thing we could do in the very

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short term, to tip the balance
and Ukraine's favor in this

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whole conflict,

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explained to me the mechanics of
confidence skating, that central

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bank was so good,

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well, so at the moment, those
reserves are protected by

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something called sovereign
immunity. Sovereign Immunity

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means that anything that belongs
to a country estate can't be

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taken away, you can't like just
move into the embassy because

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you would like that property,
because it belongs to that

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country. And normally, that
would be a reasonable thing. And

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that's how international law has
worked for the last many, many

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years.

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Adam Curry: Oh, this is good. So
sovereign immunity, who who?

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police's, the sovereign
immunity,

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John C Dvorak: this done by
treaties and UN resolutions and

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UN, men's un. So the UN is
pretty much un and if you

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violate it, you are sued
internationally. And

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Adam Curry: if you violate it,
then you get a ticket, or what

686
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do you get then?

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John C Dvorak: But can rephrase
what I saw a minute ago? Yes.

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Yeah, you get a ticket. Okay.
UK, here's what happens. If you

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do it. For example, Switzerland
has a lot of the Russian money

690
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and they refused to do anything.
Because they said, people will

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lose confidence in them and
Switzerland, you know, banking

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community, we would we would, if
we did it, we would our stock

693
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market would collapse. And the
bond market would collapse ever

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really. China would take their
money out if he goes on about

695
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this. But that's what would
happen. We would have an

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economic collapse if we tried to
pull this

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Adam Curry: and I can just say
one thing about that. And just

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quickly, because I do have some
a little prepared for this. I

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didn't know you're gonna do
Browder. I like it, I really do

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like it. We did pretty much the
same thing with the Iraq

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invasion of Kuwait. And the
lawfare blog, I put it in the in

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the show notes as a pretty good
explanation of how that worked,

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where we literally took their
frozen money and paid in

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reparations to Kuwait. So it has
been done in the past. But this

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may be a different scenario. I'm
not a lawyer, obviously. And it

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could be done through Australia,
because Australia does not

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participate in the sovereign
immunity system. So I mean, it

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seems like a long shot to do it
through them. But it's not not

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the whole world is on board with
this.

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John C Dvorak: We're running the
show here, Australia, it's got

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nothing to do with this
situation in Ukraine, it would

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be ridiculous. But let's play
out this next clip to Putin

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Unknown: has redefined
international crime. He has

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redrawn the borders of Europe,
he's invaded a foreign country

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he's killed. He's been a mass
murderer killed the unimaginable

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numbers of people. And so we're
sitting there in this situation

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where he's reading redefined
international crime. And we're

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we're sitting there saying you
and your money is still

719
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protected. We need to redefine
international law, to elevate it

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to the level of his the way he's
become an international

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criminal. And what does that
mean specifically? That means

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that that laws have to be passed
in a number of major developed

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countries, which says that
sovereign immunity always

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applies in every single
circumstance, except in the

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circumstance when a country has
invaded a neighboring country

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and committed an act of
aggression, which is being

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defined as deliberations. So
that's the one narrow

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circumstance where sovereign
immunity no longer applies. If

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we did that, if the United
States and the European Union

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and Great Britain and Canada and
Japan rewrote their laws to say

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that sovereign immunity applies
in all circumstances other than

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those, then we could then
confiscate their money.

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Adam Curry: Just to add to that,
I like that, it would mean a re

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writing of the rules, which is
what I said that they're working

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on that, in November of last
year 50 nations co sponsored a

736
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resolution on establishing an
international mechanism for

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compensation for damage loss and
injury, as well as a register to

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document evidence and claims
that's the crimes of aggression,

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which is now somehow is going to
be the basis of a war crimes.

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It's not there yet a resolution
is just a resolution, but I

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understand what he's saying. And
that would have to happen. And

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you're saying, and maybe rightly
so that we'll never do that we

743
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will never will never commit to
changing and getting on board by

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getting rid of the sovereign
immunity.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, that's my
position. Okay,

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Adam Curry: that's good. Let's
go on with Browder, which I

747
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hadn't had didn't expect him on
Browder's side of anything.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's
that. Let's go three,

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Unknown: if you wanted to
confiscate the foreign reserves,

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and you've talked about laws
being passed in the West? Would

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China and India have to go
along? Well,

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the thing is that all you have
to do is get the countries that

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have reserve currencies, revise
their laws. So in other words,

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we don't you know, if China, we
don't keep our money in China.

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So it's not a reciprocal thing.
If you get the major reserve

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currencies, the places where,
where Russia keeps their money.

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And by the way, there's one
other great benefit to doing

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this, which is that if we
confiscate Russia's money for

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invading a neighboring country,
who else has got a whole bunch

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of money in the West, that's I'm
tryna potentially going to

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invade a neighboring country,
that's China. Now, some people

762
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would argue that, that this idea
is a dangerous idea, because

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we're China will just like
abandon all countries and keep

764
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their money at home. But that
just you know, if it's just the

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US doing this, that might happen
with the dollar. But if

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everybody does it together that
has a reserve currency, then

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China will have to go along with
it. They'll I mean, they have to

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be scared of it.

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Adam Curry: Interesting. Your
mic is banging a lot. Believe

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don't do anything. Yeah, we just
want you grabbing it or

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something. And it just did grab
it. Yeah, yes. Stop grab a

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router for Well, hold on. Yeah.
Could they do that? I mean, it

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makes no sense. I mean, doing
that for Russia doing that for

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any country would make everyone
pissed off. It doesn't isn't

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China's? Don't they have some
version of reserve currency at

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this point? Aren't they being
used as reserve currency? why

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many of those baskets? Yeah, the
SDR the SDRs.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, but they
got so much money in our bonds

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that what they would do would
dump all the bonds. Miss

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00:47:50,130 --> 00:47:52,590
definitely wouldn't. It would be
bad.

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Adam Curry: Just Just to follow
up on that. Just because I have

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these listed 7773 94 countries
voted in favor of the

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reparations resolution. Russia
got 14 votes against and another

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73 countries abstained. And this
is in November, so it doesn't

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seem likely. But Russia has
threatened that they want to

786
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dissolve the United Nations over
this.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
pretty good.

788
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Adam Curry: You know, I'm kind
of all for that, too. I'm

789
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confused. Now.

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John C Dvorak: I want to bet we
can do both. Yeah, that'd

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Adam Curry: be great. All right.
All right.

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John C Dvorak: Now I have a clip
that's called idiotic comment.

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Unknown: This is clip flow for
what about in the Middle East?

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both Israel and the Saudis don't
seem to be on board. What do you

795
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what's the reason for that? And
what can be done?

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Well, I think it's it's really
shameful, that the Israelis who

797
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are Israel is a country that
that was formed as sort of

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reaction to a genocide are now
seeing a genocide taking place

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in another country and are not
helping out that country. I find

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that really unpleasant and, and
disturbing. Wait, why is that?

801
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Do you think? Well, their
argument is that the Russians

802
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are in Syria, Syria, poses a
existential threat to Israel,

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and therefore, they've got to
play all different sides. I

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think they could easily for
example, the Israelis have an

805
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,560
Iron Dome defense situation,
which prevents people from

806
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bombing them. They should
provide that Iron Dome defense

807
00:49:30,330 --> 00:49:33,660
mechanism to Ukraine so that
they're not the Ukrainian

808
00:49:33,660 --> 00:49:35,970
infrastructure isn't destroyed,
they can easily help the

809
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Ukrainians with defensive
weapons. What

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Adam Curry: were the ones that
provide the so called Iron Dome?

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Not Israel's not going to get
this Raytheon? Thank you.

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Raytheon's the one who supply
not even the US is Raytheon,

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John C Dvorak: and the Iron Dome
around Tel Aviv, specifically,

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it doesn't work. It doesn't work
a a it doesn't work. Be it's a

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small area. Ukraine is the size
of two massive countries like

816
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France and Germany combined.
Yeah. What are you gonna do?

817
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How's that work? This is dumb.
So when he said that I'm

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thinking this guy's

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Adam Curry: because he's saying
the crap now then the other

820
00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:21,150
stuff is crap mine is well,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, like, well
not like the other stuff. I

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Adam Curry: like the other
stuff. Again, of course you do

823
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don't have to agree with
everything you see want

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John C Dvorak: to punish Russia?

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Adam Curry: I don't know I want
I just want to be right I don't

826
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give a crap I don't want to post
who is right. You don't want to

827
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punish Russia. I would like the
war to end so we can get on and

828
00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:41,130
move over a different idea.
Let's move over to China. Let's

829
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get that going. Let's get
something new happening here.

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I'm tired of

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John C Dvorak: clips six,

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Adam Curry: six, did you do
five? We didn't do five. Do you

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want to skip? Oh, no, we

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John C Dvorak: didn't do five
sorry, five.

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Unknown: And on the Saudi
Arabian side. They really not

836
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been a good ally to the United
States. There historically, the

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United States had a deal, which
is that the Saudis keep oil

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prices stable to keep the
economy stable and in return.

839
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And the United States provides a
sort of military

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Adam Curry: element home not
entirely true. It was that we

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that the Saudis would sell oil
in dollars to keep it the

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reserve currency of the world,
not just to keep it stable. So I

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don't know why he's omitting
that important fact, blanket

844
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Unknown: over Saudi Arabia so
that they're protected. And the

845
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military blanket continues to
exist, but they haven't been

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playing ball when it comes to
oil. When the oil prices went up

847
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because of Putin. What do they
do? They cut production even

848
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more. I think the Saudis aren't
playing fair game. And nor is

849
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the United Arab Emirates, the
United Arab Emirates are hosting

850
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scores of Russian oligarchs,
numerous Russian oligarch yachts

851
00:51:47,970 --> 00:51:51,690
are parked in Dubai. You know,
this is another country that's

852
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supposed to be an ally of the
United States, and they're not

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playing ball. And so there's a
lot of blood pressure that we

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could apply to, to our allies if
we chose to do it. And United

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States is a very powerful
country. And, and I believe

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00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:07,320
shooting in all three cases,

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Adam Curry: it's easy now
suggesting that we go over there

858
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and point a gun at their head,
say, hey, yeah, and by the way,

859
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:15,990
how much do you think a military
blanket really costs? I mean,

860
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that's got to be very expensive
blanket.

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John C Dvorak: That'd be I don't
know. I just find this guy's

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comments about playing ball. And
not playing ball.

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00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:33,510
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, they're
not. They're not you know, we

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know that the Saudis supposedly
are selling oil to the Chinese

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in the in their currency.
Working stuff out.

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John C Dvorak: Which of these
things if that's only get

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00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,650
resolved, but that's all

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Adam Curry: intentional. That's
all to bring in climate change

869
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or whatever your green hydrogen
Add To me this intentional? Not

870
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:58,140
not from the dollar side. But
oh, we just kick people off

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Swift. Screw you. That China, I
think that's what they would do.

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00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,490
Before anything out China, you
probably would just kick off

873
00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:10,980
Swift. Just like Russia. That's
how stupid these people are, are

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people.

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John C Dvorak: To his right to
left, let's listen to the

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bullshit clip. One of the

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Unknown: things you've always
pushed for his going after

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00:53:20,130 --> 00:53:24,270
Putin's wealth, personally, tell
me how did he get all that

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00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:26,610
money? And where is it and what
can we do?

880
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:29,940
Well, so Putin doesn't keep any
money in his own name. If he

881
00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:33,180
did, then then whoever had the
bank documents to show it could

882
00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:37,620
blackmail him. Oh, so Putin has
to rely on people he trusts, I

883
00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:41,970
call them oligarchy trustees.
And so when you see an

884
00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:45,870
oligarchy, who's supposedly
worth 15, or $22 billion on

885
00:53:45,870 --> 00:53:50,400
paper, you can be pretty well,
sure, that half that money

886
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,210
belongs to Vladimir Putin. And
so when we sanction the

887
00:53:54,210 --> 00:53:57,660
oligarchs, when we identify the
biggest and richest oligarchs in

888
00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:01,200
Russia, and we freeze their
money, we're not just freezing

889
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,870
their money. We're freezing
Vladimir Putin's money. And so

890
00:54:03,870 --> 00:54:08,010
one of the reasons that I've
been so forceful on the issue of

891
00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:11,160
sanctioning Russian oligarchs is
because we're sanctioning

892
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,180
Vladimir Putin personally. And
so that we've done a good job

893
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:18,060
with that and and, you know, he
says, Oh, this doesn't matter.

894
00:54:18,060 --> 00:54:21,510
Well, he's, he's fuming when
these oligarchs find their

895
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:23,910
assets frozen at different banks
around the world

896
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:25,320
Adam Curry: that's my boat

897
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,280
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I
found this to be one of the more

898
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,310
problematic and music that word
clips Yeah, I

899
00:54:32,310 --> 00:54:33,540
Adam Curry: agree with you on
that one.

900
00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:36,480
John C Dvorak: Let's start with
the with the basic premise.

901
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:41,370
Putin has no money in his name
because he could be blackmailed

902
00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:41,940
you ever hear

903
00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:44,040
Adam Curry: of the Panama
Papers? You can hide that stuff

904
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:44,790
easily?

905
00:54:45,210 --> 00:54:48,690
John C Dvorak: Well, what's the
point of even hiding it? Right?

906
00:54:48,990 --> 00:54:50,790
Adam Curry: He should have gone
a different tracks except

907
00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:53,460
Vladimir Putin has all his money
in Bitcoin. That's what he

908
00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:55,890
should have said that would have
been much funnier, and much less

909
00:54:56,220 --> 00:54:58,500
John C Dvorak: money but much
more. It would be believable,

910
00:54:58,530 --> 00:55:02,490
but say he has his money. goes
he has $1,000,000,000.05 billion

911
00:55:02,490 --> 00:55:05,430
I mean, they make it sound like
he's got hundreds of billions a

912
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:10,380
trillion dollars. And he could
be blackmailed somehow give you

913
00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:12,840
blackmail again with that much
money. I don't think so he's in

914
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,300
this Bill Gates doesn't hide his
money this way. So why is he

915
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,730
hiding his money in the first
place? But then the second thing

916
00:55:17,730 --> 00:55:22,530
that really got me is that if
half of the money that always

917
00:55:22,530 --> 00:55:26,790
say there's a dozen oligarchs in
particular, just take 12 Off the

918
00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:30,420
top that are worth anywhere
between 10 and 20, or $30

919
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:33,510
billion each, each one of them
to half of their money belongs

920
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:38,790
to Putin. Why wouldn't they just
get together and kill him? Well,

921
00:55:38,790 --> 00:55:42,930
this, thank you. They just shoot
Putin and you got you say you're

922
00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:47,100
worth $30 trillion, or I'm
sorry, $30 billion. And half of

923
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,700
that money actually belongs to
Putin. Well, you and a bunch of

924
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:54,330
other guys, you shoot Putin, and
now you're that 30 trillion, you

925
00:55:54,330 --> 00:55:59,640
get the $30 billion to yourself.
I mean, this is nonsense. It

926
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,340
makes zero sense what he said
what Browder

927
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:06,270
Adam Curry: is doing here, and
maybe that's part of his, his

928
00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:10,860
Let's steal the money Gambit.
He's continuing along the lines

929
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,110
of this is not about Russia. We
don't hate Russia. No, it's only

930
00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:19,770
one person one man, it's all of
this the whole problem in the

931
00:56:19,770 --> 00:56:24,900
world inflation, climate change.
You know, Germany having to rape

932
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:28,530
Africa, that everything is the
fault of just one man, one man

933
00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:31,170
and one man only and that's
Putin. It's Don't be mad at the

934
00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:36,060
Russians. Be mad at one man,
Putin, that this is what this is

935
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:39,300
about. For some odd reason. I
guess we're going to build it up

936
00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:42,630
and then try to explode a cigar
or whatever, you know, that

937
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:45,780
we've tried in the past to kill
him and then it'll be dingdong,

938
00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:50,430
the witch is dead and everything
will be over. It it's a real

939
00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:51,990
it's a real build up here.

940
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's a bad idea.

941
00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:58,350
Adam Curry: Probably, but look
at who's running the show.

942
00:56:58,350 --> 00:57:00,750
Victoria Nuland, Jake Solomon

943
00:57:00,810 --> 00:57:04,230
John C Dvorak: nadie Ryohei
Putin, Putin spirit gets in the

944
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:08,010
way of their schemes. So let's
go now here's one that you'll

945
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:14,610
enjoy. Just the last question
router. Okay. Yeah. Now, this

946
00:57:14,610 --> 00:57:19,470
war isn't going to end tomorrow,
like some people that we both

947
00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:24,990
know, think Da, five years meant
minimum, here we go, oh,

948
00:57:24,990 --> 00:57:26,130
goodness, you say this

949
00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:30,960
Unknown: is gonna be a long war,
the way it's going now. Envision

950
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,380
for me what it'll be like five
years from now, if this thing is

951
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:36,090
still going on the way it is?

952
00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:41,490
Well, this is Putin's Putin. His
his vision, in my mind, is he

953
00:57:41,490 --> 00:57:44,970
knows he can win the war. But he
also doesn't care about the

954
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,790
lives lost from his side. He
doesn't really care about the,

955
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:56,850
the destruction of his of his
military equipment. In this in

956
00:57:56,850 --> 00:58:00,120
his mind, what he's thinking is
that we're going to lose

957
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,510
patience before he loses
patience. He's thinking that in

958
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:06,630
these democratic countries where
we have elections all the time,

959
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,480
where we grow tired, and where
we have a limited bandwidth,

960
00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:16,800
that eventually we're gonna stop
supporting Ukraine. And that's

961
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,100
his only way out of this whole
thing is just to outlast us. And

962
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,230
so well, wait, wait, but he'd be
right.

963
00:58:23,580 --> 00:58:25,890
That I think that that's my
biggest fear. I mean, if you

964
00:58:25,890 --> 00:58:28,650
look at the trajectory of the
Ukrainians right now, they're

965
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:33,060
really causing just no end of
hardship for Putin and his

966
00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:36,690
military. And on the current
trajectory, he thought that the

967
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,890
Ukrainians probably would
eventually succeed over some

968
00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:46,050
long period of time. And so but
but that we, we've, we've heard

969
00:58:46,050 --> 00:58:50,520
murmurings in the United States
and in Europe, from far right,

970
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,980
from all sorts of strange
characters saying no more money

971
00:58:52,980 --> 00:58:56,940
for Ukraine, no more support for
Ukraine. If those murmurings

972
00:58:57,390 --> 00:59:01,200
that are, at the moment, very
narrow sections of of the

973
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,460
political establishment become
bigger sections. Putin may very

974
00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:08,700
well be right. And that's that's
the fear I have.

975
00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:12,510
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, well,
you're right. This is the Brooks

976
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:21,060
rule goes into effect. So this
thing has to end quickly. Or

977
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:25,620
maybe not. Maybe not because,
you know, this is the result of

978
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:26,010
the war

979
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,530
Unknown: as the ongoing war in
Ukraine continues, the

980
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:32,160
ones profiting on defense firms
Lockheed Martin, a major

981
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,760
American defense company, has
now announced a record breaking

982
00:59:35,790 --> 00:59:39,510
annual production goal after a
massive success of its High

983
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:41,400
Mobility Artillery Rocket
systems

984
00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:43,710
are high mass systems on the
battleground.

985
00:59:44,220 --> 00:59:50,040
Adam Curry: Yay, record profits
everybody. Beautiful. Good job,

986
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:50,520
everyone.

987
00:59:52,350 --> 00:59:56,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, here's my
Ukraine update. This is in prs.

988
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,320
Let's see. Where is it?

989
00:59:58,620 --> 00:59:59,970
Adam Curry: I got it. Ukraine
update

990
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,720
John C Dvorak: NPR got

991
01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:03,420
Unknown: Ukrainian troops are
helping civilians flee the

992
01:00:03,450 --> 01:00:06,900
eastern town of Buck mood, which
Russian forces have bombed and

993
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:10,920
shelled for months. And piers
Joanna kisses reports. military

994
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,520
analysts say Ukrainian soldiers
may be preparing to pull out of

995
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,630
the Besiege city.

996
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,080
Yeah, so far Ukrainian military
officials say there are no plans

997
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,010
to retreat from Bach loot, even
as Russian forces inch ever

998
01:00:23,010 --> 01:00:28,890
closer. NPR recently spoke to
soldiers in northwestern Ukraine

999
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,790
training to deploy to box loot.
A soldier named Vadim, who

1000
01:00:32,790 --> 01:00:36,120
declined to reveal his last name
for security reasons, says he's

1001
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,360
planning to release members of
his battalion already there,

1002
01:00:39,450 --> 01:00:41,910
because he will be there for
several weeks and we will change

1003
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:43,770
we already but British

1004
01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:47,070
and American military analysts
say Ukrainian forces have blown

1005
01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:50,160
up key bridges and back loot
signaling or retreat.

1006
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,990
Adam Curry: Yeah, this this is
trending. The idea that Ukraine

1007
01:00:54,990 --> 01:00:57,720
will be pulling out of Buck
moot, and here's my version.

1008
01:00:58,230 --> 01:01:00,960
Unknown: Well, there's a lot of
speculation around here about

1009
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,380
whether Ukrainian troops are
preparing to withdraw.

1010
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,410
Officially, the Ukrainian
position is that they are not

1011
01:01:07,410 --> 01:01:11,370
withdrawing. Most soldiers that
we tried to speak to said no

1012
01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:15,180
comment when asked about any
plans to withdraw other so we're

1013
01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:18,300
willing to speculate a little
bit. And what they said was that

1014
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:21,870
they were not withdrawing so
far, but some of them thought

1015
01:01:21,870 --> 01:01:25,170
that it was more likely that
Ukrainian forces would have to

1016
01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:28,590
pull out of that route, the not
the main reason being that

1017
01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:31,140
although at the moment, it's
still freezing at night. So the

1018
01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:34,950
ground remains reasonably hard.
That is set to change in the

1019
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:37,950
next few days, which means it's
going to get much more muddy,

1020
01:01:37,950 --> 01:01:40,680
and the ground will be much
softer at the moment that

1021
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,310
Ukrainians don't really have a
paved road that they can use to

1022
01:01:44,310 --> 01:01:47,490
go in and out of dark moods.
There was a bridge that was

1023
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,570
blown up a couple of days ago,
on the road that they were still

1024
01:01:51,570 --> 01:01:55,170
using, they've replaced that
with a pontoon bridge. But that

1025
01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:57,780
makes things very difficult
logistically for getting in and

1026
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:01,440
out of town at the moment,
they're still also able to use

1027
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,950
dirt roads, but that won't be
the case not for wheeled

1028
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:07,620
vehicles anyway, once it gets
more muddy. So that's that's the

1029
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:10,800
main difficulty that they're
facing at the moment.

1030
01:02:11,070 --> 01:02:13,500
Adam Curry: What I could not
find in any of the reports is

1031
01:02:13,590 --> 01:02:17,310
the location of Bach moot, which
is smack dab in the middle of

1032
01:02:17,310 --> 01:02:22,110
the Donbass region. So I pull
out from that to me would mean

1033
01:02:22,110 --> 01:02:26,640
there's your there's your new
border. Now that's so dumb boss,

1034
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,950
just give that let that rest it
shit anyway. We don't want it.

1035
01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:34,590
Let Russia keep that. That could
be that that could be the new

1036
01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:36,600
border. And maybe that would be
the way out?

1037
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,980
John C Dvorak: Well, if some
parties, I would put our

1038
01:02:44,460 --> 01:02:49,620
government in that category of
some parties insisted on

1039
01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:52,590
negotiations in ending this
thing, instead of testing

1040
01:02:52,590 --> 01:02:59,070
military gear by the boat load
at the expense of our taxpayers.

1041
01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:01,080
Yeah, that probably could
happen.

1042
01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:03,720
Adam Curry: That seems to be
ending. I've been looking into

1043
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:09,870
why we can't supply Ukraine with
any more ammunition. And I got a

1044
01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:15,480
reasonable answer here from
defense one. Their audio? I

1045
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,980
guess they are the website that
reports on the defense industry.

1046
01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:22,200
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's got a
very good newsletter. I

1047
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,670
subscribed Yes, I subscribed
where

1048
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:25,980
Adam Curry: you get all the
numbers, you know 100,000 For

1049
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:29,670
100 100 million for Lockheed 400
million for Raytheon every day,

1050
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:33,630
by the way every single day. US
US and allied production of

1051
01:03:33,630 --> 01:03:36,660
artillery ammunition has emerged
as a key problem supplying

1052
01:03:36,660 --> 01:03:39,900
Ukraine which burns through
1000s of shells a day fighting

1053
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:44,340
Russia's invasion. Ukraine may
lose the war to Oh, if it

1054
01:03:44,340 --> 01:03:48,480
doesn't receive enough supplies.
This is what European Union

1055
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,650
foreign policy chief Josep
Borrell said February 20. Now

1056
01:03:52,650 --> 01:03:55,290
here's the problem. Obtaining
the raw materials might be a

1057
01:03:55,290 --> 01:03:58,710
problem eventually, but not yet.
He said at an event held by the

1058
01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:01,230
Center for Strategic and
International Studies. That's a

1059
01:04:01,230 --> 01:04:05,310
great group. The US already
maintains large stockpiles of

1060
01:04:05,310 --> 01:04:09,030
some of the key raw materials
such as the precursor chemicals

1061
01:04:09,030 --> 01:04:13,830
for explosives. But now but how
much of the other raw materials

1062
01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:17,670
the US should keep in reserve is
an open question. The issue

1063
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:20,460
really is stockpiling. The
question is how much can you

1064
01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:23,610
afford to do like we can't
afford to print more money. The

1065
01:04:23,610 --> 01:04:26,610
US has no shortage of raw
materials used for artillery

1066
01:04:26,610 --> 01:04:31,230
shell manufacture. But the
production capabilities

1067
01:04:31,230 --> 01:04:33,900
potentially taking the stress
off the US could come from

1068
01:04:34,110 --> 01:04:41,100
Poland. And unlikely. What seems
to be the problem is steel, that

1069
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:45,960
we just don't have enough steel
to make this happen. And as I

1070
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,140
read through these pieces, I
just see a lot of excuses.

1071
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,360
People waffling around, does
that mean that we can't get

1072
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,220
enough or that phony baloney
steal from China? Or are we

1073
01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:02,520
going to x bought the
manufacturer of some of this to

1074
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:07,110
Poland, Australia, other
countries that want to do this

1075
01:05:07,110 --> 01:05:08,760
and this, it may

1076
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:13,680
John C Dvorak: have the same
issues, I mean, the steel mostly

1077
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:22,860
is made in China and India
nowadays. And, I mean, we could

1078
01:05:22,860 --> 01:05:28,350
do make steel, but we make you
know, the Steel's, that when we

1079
01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:33,150
make steel, we make specialty
Steel's, you know, high end

1080
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,540
stainless steels and things like
that, that you use for other

1081
01:05:36,540 --> 01:05:43,050
purposes, as opposed to
artillery shells. Yeah. I mean,

1082
01:05:43,050 --> 01:05:48,390
this, this whole thing may be a
test of our stress test for the

1083
01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:52,290
military industrial complex.
And, you know, assuming a proxy

1084
01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:55,740
war, let's assume that we were
in this I mean, you can just see

1085
01:05:55,890 --> 01:06:00,060
a meeting about this with a guy
with a pointer. Let's assume a

1086
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:04,500
laser pointer where they are we
are fighting the Ukrainians are

1087
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:08,340
our soldiers. And now we have to
supply them, what are the

1088
01:06:08,340 --> 01:06:11,910
bottlenecks? What are the kinks?
What are the what's the what,

1089
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:12,450
how

1090
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:16,020
Adam Curry: about this? Supply
and demand artificial shortage?

1091
01:06:16,050 --> 01:06:17,730
They just, they just want to
make more money?

1092
01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:20,610
John C Dvorak: Well, that that
could be an element and when

1093
01:06:20,610 --> 01:06:26,460
that wouldn't be a shocker, no.
But it could be a combination of

1094
01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:26,880
both.

1095
01:06:28,050 --> 01:06:31,110
Adam Curry: And and you know,
the general word is how we have

1096
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to save some for China. We got
it. Even the Secretary of the

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01:06:34,530 --> 01:06:37,320
Army was saying, Yeah, we
shouldn't be given f 16. So

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01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:40,290
Ukraine, we got to send them to
Taiwan. We got to get it ready

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01:06:40,290 --> 01:06:47,970
for China. 2027. We only have a
few years left. There solidly

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01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:54,150
running the show here. The MICC
companies, they have everybody

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01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:58,020
by the balls. That mainly the US
taxpayers.

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01:06:59,130 --> 01:07:01,050
John C Dvorak: So there's you're
talking about Ukraine. I do have

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01:07:01,050 --> 01:07:02,580
an ask Adam series.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,230
Adam Curry: Okay. This is always
fun. I wasn't

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01:07:07,470 --> 01:07:10,410
John C Dvorak: three clips.
There's the one with the answer.

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01:07:10,410 --> 01:07:12,780
And then there's geopolitical,
ignore those. That's number

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01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:14,460
three. This third clip Hold on.

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01:07:17,460 --> 01:07:19,350
Adam Curry: One of our favorite
gambits here, ladies and

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01:07:19,350 --> 01:07:22,770
gentlemen, the ask Adam segment.
All right,

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01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:27,060
John C Dvorak: okay. This is ask
Adam, Ukraine supply ready, you

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01:07:27,060 --> 01:07:27,480
get it.

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Unknown: In the early months of
the Russian invasion of Ukraine,

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01:07:30,420 --> 01:07:33,570
Ukraine supply lines were
abruptly cut off. One of the

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01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:35,400
supplies people could no longer
get

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01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:38,790
John C Dvorak: is Russia.

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,880
Adam Curry: Ooh, one of the
supplies people create again,

1117
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:45,150
but again, this is a good
question. The

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01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:47,730
Unknown: early months of the
Russian invasion of Ukraine,

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01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,910
Ukraine supply lines were
abruptly cut off one of the

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01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:52,740
supplies people could no longer
get,

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01:07:53,970 --> 01:07:57,150
Adam Curry: ah, birth control
pills.

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01:08:00,270 --> 01:08:01,950
John C Dvorak: I'll give you a
point for that.

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01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,260
Adam Curry: Thank you. To

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01:08:05,130 --> 01:08:07,890
Unknown: the early months of the
Russian invasion of Ukraine,

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,070
Ukraine supply lines were
abruptly cut off one of the

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01:08:11,070 --> 01:08:14,640
supplies people could no longer
get abortion pills. Were so

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01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:23,310
Adam Curry: close. Wow, I was
gonna say Viagra at first but

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01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:24,900
then like, now you're

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01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:28,470
John C Dvorak: kind of on the
right track. But yeah, but you

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01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:31,650
know, since this is kind of,
let's make some points here.

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01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:34,110
abortion pills. NPR.

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01:08:34,140 --> 01:08:35,730
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I
thought that they were on the

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01:08:35,730 --> 01:08:39,690
last show. We we have Ukrainian
men freezing their sperm so that

1134
01:08:39,690 --> 01:08:44,430
they can still build a country
of young Ukrainians if they get

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01:08:44,430 --> 01:08:47,850
killed on the front lines. Then
now the next show four days

1136
01:08:47,850 --> 01:08:50,730
later, we hear that abortion
pills with a problem.

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,900
John C Dvorak: Just grow. Let's
make it so we've worked. We had

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01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:58,620
these war reports over the last
15 years now. And again. Yeah,

1139
01:08:58,650 --> 01:09:01,890
we have to make sure that we
angle this the right way. So

1140
01:09:01,890 --> 01:09:04,800
here's the bonus clip that
follows all this other stuff.

1141
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,720
Ask Adam geopolitical three.

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01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:09,030
Unknown: And the reason the
first reason was

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01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:14,970
rape cases. Oh, the request that
first sparked this donation of

1144
01:09:14,970 --> 01:09:19,170
pills was a plea on behalf of
women raped by Russian soldiers.

1145
01:09:20,370 --> 01:09:23,370
Adam Curry: My goodness, I could
have figured that one out. Oh my

1146
01:09:23,370 --> 01:09:26,940
goodness. It's all it's always
some bull crap like that, isn't

1147
01:09:26,940 --> 01:09:32,400
it? They're raping the women.
They're handing out Viagra so

1148
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,690
they can rape all the women. No
man

1149
01:09:39,029 --> 01:09:41,009
John C Dvorak: that things are
changing that much.

1150
01:09:43,020 --> 01:09:47,220
Adam Curry: That's so lame. I
thought I had something on this.

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01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:51,900
Oh, no. If we just get off
Ukraine for a minute, I'm kind

1152
01:09:51,900 --> 01:09:55,050
of bored of it. There was I'm
good. Yeah, you're good. It was

1153
01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:58,800
a similar Gambit being used in
Iran. You know, because we still

1154
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,360
have to kick Iran was asked for
whatever, you know, I know it's

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01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:06,630
subjugate them to our deal or
whatever it is now Iran is

1156
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:09,720
coming back or Iran is trending,
and it's trending with the

1157
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,970
poisoning of the school girls.

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01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:15,390
Unknown: Let's bring you some
breaking news coming out of Iran

1159
01:10:15,390 --> 01:10:19,110
where dozens of school girls
across five provinces are in

1160
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:23,100
hospital after a new wave of
suspected poisoning attacks. Of

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01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:28,080
course, the authorities have
said that it's Iran's enemies

1162
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,410
are behind this. But that's
pretty vague in itself. Are they

1163
01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:35,010
being any clearer about where
the finger of blame is being

1164
01:10:35,010 --> 01:10:36,630
pointed? No,

1165
01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:41,850
for right now, there is no clear
answer being provided by any

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,090
officials in government. We
heard from the Iranian President

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01:10:45,090 --> 01:10:48,900
Ibrahim Bracy. During his speech
on Friday, he accused Western

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01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:53,070
powers of carrying out these
attacks to try and create

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01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:58,200
instability in Iran and try to
create fear amongst the parents

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,590
of these girls of school girls
in general in the country. We

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01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:05,640
know that the President has
tasked the interior minister to

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,430
look into these attacks, and
also trying to figure out what

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01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:11,430
is happening and to prevent them
from taking place. We understand

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01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:13,860
that the various levels of
intelligence apparatus is in the

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01:11:13,860 --> 01:11:17,040
country are also working with
the interior ministry. But I

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01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,770
think it's important to point
out that we don't have any clear

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01:11:19,770 --> 01:11:23,040
answers. And the officials
haven't provided any evidence

1178
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,280
that they've come up with that
would prove Western powers to be

1179
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,250
involved or foreign powers to be
involved in these attacks. What

1180
01:11:29,250 --> 01:11:32,520
is clear is that they are
increasing in numbers, which is

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01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,180
only making parents more
worried. I've spoken to a number

1182
01:11:36,180 --> 01:11:39,960
of parents over the past few
hours, who say they're clearly

1183
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:42,090
worried about their daughters,
and they're not sure if they

1184
01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:44,280
will send them back to school in
the coming days.

1185
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,520
Adam Curry: All right, what is
missing from this report? Which

1186
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,430
she says clearly a lot. What is
missing from the report?

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01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:54,270
John C Dvorak: Well, to me
what's missing is the day Ronnie

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01:11:54,270 --> 01:11:58,830
has don't want to girls to go to
school. Pretty much like the

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01:11:58,920 --> 01:11:59,760
Taliban.

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01:11:59,850 --> 01:12:02,850
Adam Curry: Well, so that's why
reports here eventually will

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01:12:02,850 --> 01:12:06,810
starve all that, you know, the
the Taliban or do the regime

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01:12:06,810 --> 01:12:09,600
which we need to change and Iran
is poisoning the school girls

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,140
don't want them to go to school.
But what's missing? Is any

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01:12:13,170 --> 01:12:18,060
analysis of the poison being
used. Not a single word.

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01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:18,690
John C Dvorak: Excellent. Not.

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01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,280
Adam Curry: Now, what do I think
it could be? We go back to

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,050
Havana syndrome. Because you see
all these videos of these girls

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01:12:28,050 --> 01:12:33,780
lying on on Cops filling up the
hallways. And by the way, that

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could be a total. You know,
they're they're, they're

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01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:38,850
throwing babies out of
incubators. That's also

1201
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:41,670
possible. I don't know. You
know, that would that would be a

1202
01:12:41,670 --> 01:12:44,820
good one. Yeah, it could be
staged. It could be staged. But

1203
01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:48,180
I don't see them puking. And I
don't see puke everywhere. I

1204
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:51,750
don't see any of I don't see
them going into convulsions just

1205
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:54,450
lay in there. They're looking
like, oh, I don't feel good.

1206
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:59,640
Could this be a Havana syndrome
weapon? We may be we may be

1207
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,570
using that. It's just there's
something screwy about this

1208
01:13:03,570 --> 01:13:09,210
story. And the end the lack of
any type of toxic toxicology

1209
01:13:09,390 --> 01:13:14,190
reporting is telling I think so
it's either phony. Or it could

1210
01:13:14,190 --> 01:13:17,070
be something like one of one of
our Havana syndrome weapons,

1211
01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:20,520
which I think we've pretty much
deconstructed the intelligence

1212
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,170
agencies are using on each
other.

1213
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:29,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't I
doubt if you have anything to do

1214
01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:34,110
with this is something else. But
I just don't see why. What's the

1215
01:13:34,110 --> 01:13:38,310
point? I mean, I mean, we play
these sorts of games, you know,

1216
01:13:38,340 --> 01:13:43,500
but that that's pretty granular.
It seems to me, for us to be

1217
01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:46,230
involved. I think if we're going
to zap somebody with these

1218
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:50,070
things, we SAP a couple of high
up guys and have some fun.

1219
01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:56,880
Adam Curry: That's why don't we
do that to Putin. We should zap

1220
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,920
him again. Now. Now you're
talking Mr. Putin. Zap. Zap. And

1221
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:04,860
you know what the military
industrial complex doesn't want

1222
01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:09,510
Putin zapped we can't have that
happening. What will happen to

1223
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:13,110
sales if the war in Ukraine ends
prematurely before positioned

1224
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:16,830
for the war in China or the war
over Taiwan or whatever we're

1225
01:14:16,830 --> 01:14:17,730
going to call it

1226
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:21,720
John C Dvorak: the war in Asia
that's been scheduled for 2020

1227
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,630
successive ways off 2027 2027.

1228
01:14:25,050 --> 01:14:28,410
Adam Curry: That was 26. No is
2020. So that's what the CIA

1229
01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:30,600
told. told us was CIA guy.

1230
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:32,820
John C Dvorak: Places seven
Yeah, hold

1231
01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:36,120
Adam Curry: on. Birds. Bill
Burns. Yeah, here it is

1232
01:14:36,150 --> 01:14:36,900
preparing

1233
01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:40,110
Unknown: countries are
increasingly wary of China,

1234
01:14:40,110 --> 01:14:44,250
which is continuing its military
buildup. The head of the US

1235
01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:48,570
Central Intelligence Agency is
warning of China's intentions in

1236
01:14:48,570 --> 01:14:52,920
the Indo Pacific. William Byrne
says President shooting ping

1237
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:58,110
appears to be readying for an
invasion of Taiwan by 2027.

1238
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:02,160
We know as a matter of inter
allegiance that he's instructed

1239
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:07,320
the People's Liberation Army to
be ready by 2027 to conduct a

1240
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,310
successful invasion. Now, that
does not mean that he's decided

1241
01:15:11,790 --> 01:15:16,170
to conduct an invasion in 2027
or any other year. But it's a

1242
01:15:16,170 --> 01:15:20,160
reminder of the seriousness of
his focus and his ambition.

1243
01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:24,390
Burns warned she should not be
underestimated. The Chinese

1244
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:27,930
president is currently serving
his third term in office. It

1245
01:15:27,930 --> 01:15:33,090
expires in 2027. Burns. She is
closely watching Russia's

1246
01:15:33,090 --> 01:15:37,110
invasion of Ukraine, and is
likely unsettled in a little

1247
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:41,340
sobered by the performance of
the Russian military. There you

1248
01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:41,730
go.

1249
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,090
John C Dvorak: There was yeah,
he needs a little action for a

1250
01:15:45,090 --> 01:15:50,820
reelection. Oh, totally. It's an
old classic, classic Gambit. So

1251
01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:54,090
there was a when George Bush ran
for reelection, and all of a

1252
01:15:54,090 --> 01:15:56,970
sudden we were on Orange Alert.
Remember those things at the

1253
01:15:56,970 --> 01:15:57,480
airport?

1254
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,160
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Was it
was it just?

1255
01:16:02,670 --> 01:16:04,200
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was just
before the election, and

1256
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,640
everyone condemned him for being
using it as a political ploy to

1257
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:14,250
get reelected. Right. Right.
Guess what? It may, if I may ask

1258
01:16:14,250 --> 01:16:19,200
you to guess. Go ahead. I'll
try. He, it was a political

1259
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,760
ploy. Yeah,

1260
01:16:24,990 --> 01:16:33,600
Adam Curry: so the Treaty of the
sea has been agreed to but not

1261
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,470
signed. But this was a big thing
this week at at the United

1262
01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:44,880
Nations. And the Treaty of the
sea, pushes out a zone I think

1263
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:49,380
it's 200 miles from which is
like incredible amount 200 miles

1264
01:16:49,530 --> 01:16:55,380
from any country's economic,
exclusive economic zone. And

1265
01:16:55,380 --> 01:17:00,180
that will be a protected zone
that, you know, you can't fish

1266
01:17:00,180 --> 01:17:04,650
in and do all kinds of stuff.
And, you know, it's like, it was

1267
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,250
really kind of unclear what the
point was of everyone making

1268
01:17:08,250 --> 01:17:11,070
such a big deal out of this.
Although I do recall Hillary

1269
01:17:11,070 --> 01:17:15,270
Clinton being all jacked up on
the on the Treaty of the see

1270
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:22,950
years and years ago, actually.
Here 2003 2003, we were playing

1271
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:23,340
this,

1272
01:17:23,610 --> 01:17:26,400
Unknown: the 2003 treaty between
Russia and Ukraine,

1273
01:17:26,430 --> 01:17:29,850
Adam Curry: our way is 2018
Sorry,

1274
01:17:30,030 --> 01:17:33,060
Unknown: designates the current
Strait and this Sea of Azov has

1275
01:17:33,090 --> 01:17:36,600
shared territorial waters. But
Moscow has been asserting

1276
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,020
greater control over the area
since its annexation of the

1277
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:44,070
Crimean Peninsula in 2014,
particularly since the May this

1278
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:47,760
year, when it opened the new 19
Kilometer bridge linking the

1279
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,460
peninsula to Russia and
territory to the east of the

1280
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:51,270
current strait.

1281
01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:56,070
Adam Curry: So it extends your
economic zone essentially. So

1282
01:17:56,370 --> 01:18:01,110
although they didn't get a full
on text of this resolution, the

1283
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:03,750
United Nations everyone was all
GD and all Jackson all happy

1284
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:07,050
about it. And I'm like, What
could this mean? Why is this so

1285
01:18:07,050 --> 01:18:08,850
important? And then I found
this.

1286
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,590
Unknown: So let's now talk about
Ireland. There are islands with

1287
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:16,980
an area of less than the Vatican
City sometimes claimed back

1288
01:18:16,980 --> 01:18:22,020
three or even more countries,
seemingly insignificant islands

1289
01:18:22,050 --> 01:18:27,330
holds strategic and economic
treasure for countries. Every

1290
01:18:27,330 --> 01:18:30,480
Island offshore provides an
avenue for military and naval

1291
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:35,970
bases. The 200 nautical miles
area around the island source

1292
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,650
falling in a country's exclusive
economic zone, which means that

1293
01:18:40,650 --> 01:18:44,250
the particular nation can lay
exclusive claim to all the

1294
01:18:44,250 --> 01:18:49,680
resources available in this
area. Now consider this. Our

1295
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,910
country recently found that it
has not one, not two, but over

1296
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:58,530
7000 Islands, which were
previously not accounted for.

1297
01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:02,220
The country which has hid the
treasure is Japan.

1298
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,990
Adam Curry: So Japan could
extend its economic zone with

1299
01:19:06,990 --> 01:19:11,370
military hardware ours by an
extra 200 miles. Wouldn't that

1300
01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:16,200
be convenient? For them? Yes,
that's the point. Move towards

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,010
China. Vietnam,

1302
01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:24,540
John C Dvorak: we have
situation. Sorry. What happens

1303
01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:27,450
when you have a situation this
used to be a big deal back in

1304
01:19:27,450 --> 01:19:32,340
the Nixonian era, where you have
two islands, Clem Moy and Matt

1305
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:37,230
Sue. Yeah, that are across from
each other when owned by

1306
01:19:37,230 --> 01:19:40,860
sequence Chinese and was Japan
or was Korean? I don't know what

1307
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:44,070
the two countries are. Yeah. But
they're with the island

1308
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:46,710
themselves, as you say any
random two islands that are

1309
01:19:46,710 --> 01:19:49,260
owned by two different countries
are within 200 miles of

1310
01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:51,120
Adam Curry: each. Yeah, that's a
problem. No.

1311
01:19:52,350 --> 01:19:54,540
John C Dvorak: Well, there has
to be resolved in the treaty. It

1312
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:54,690
has

1313
01:19:54,690 --> 01:19:59,580
Adam Curry: to be resolved with
violence. Come on. We're going

1314
01:19:59,580 --> 01:20:02,730
from via On some and not for and
just any old treaty that's no

1315
01:20:02,730 --> 01:20:07,410
fun. We want some some action
gotta get something going here

1316
01:20:09,570 --> 01:20:12,900
John C Dvorak: now Ma'am you
really liked that woman that's

1317
01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:15,630
what I get a kick out of it you
follow her? Oh,

1318
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:21,300
Adam Curry: this is not a Paki
Sharma. No, no, no, no, this

1319
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:22,890
John C Dvorak: is this is he
says just like her.

1320
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:27,059
Adam Curry: Hello wi o n. That's
racist of you to say but yes,

1321
01:20:27,089 --> 01:20:31,139
the Indian women often sound
alike. Now she's gone to

1322
01:20:31,139 --> 01:20:33,149
something called first post or

1323
01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:35,610
John C Dvorak: then when she
leaves wi O

1324
01:20:35,610 --> 01:20:38,970
Adam Curry: N Yes, she left lb
IO and this is W IO n and so

1325
01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:42,990
they just put a replace a sound
alike. Moment. I think I think

1326
01:20:42,990 --> 01:20:48,720
they all kind of sound like you
know, I'm just saying no. And

1327
01:20:48,750 --> 01:20:50,070
yeah, well, the difference

1328
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:51,810
John C Dvorak: is you'll be
hearing from our Brahm and I

1329
01:20:51,810 --> 01:20:52,050
know

1330
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,580
Adam Curry: the difference is
this lady leaves long pauses in

1331
01:20:56,580 --> 01:20:59,580
between, I actually I left the
first one in but I cut most of

1332
01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:03,720
them out because she really
leaves you speaking of such more

1333
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:08,280
response from my rant against
pod speeding that is now the

1334
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,490
official term pod fasting was
not working for everybody. Pod

1335
01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:16,410
speeding is the act of listening
to a podcast at more than the

1336
01:21:16,410 --> 01:21:20,670
normal speed. We have
unscientific evidence, but a lot

1337
01:21:20,670 --> 01:21:25,260
of a lot of accounts of
firsthand accounts of people

1338
01:21:25,260 --> 01:21:28,590
saying that it has hijacked
their nervous system, they have

1339
01:21:28,590 --> 01:21:31,320
no patience with the people
around them people they love

1340
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,580
their spouses, their children,
their co workers, that it makes

1341
01:21:35,580 --> 01:21:38,190
them jittery and they're just
there are two more pieces that

1342
01:21:38,190 --> 01:21:40,920
came in that I would like to
share. Because

1343
01:21:41,009 --> 01:21:44,249
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
something here. Yes. I have

1344
01:21:44,249 --> 01:21:47,519
gotten some complaining notes
about this about your obsession

1345
01:21:47,519 --> 01:21:51,419
with this. Yes, I'm just trying
to save lives that's all and I

1346
01:21:51,449 --> 01:21:54,359
I'm backing you on this because
I think it's interesting the

1347
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,250
Adam Curry: people who are
complaining There you go they

1348
01:21:56,250 --> 01:21:59,160
are already irritated by us even

1349
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,150
John C Dvorak: talking about
this irritated Yes. Thanks

1350
01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:05,820
Adam Curry: for opening my eyes
to the pod speeding side effects

1351
01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:09,420
my pod fasting or pod speeding
use case was this. I tried to

1352
01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:12,510
listen to the show live on pod
verse on Thursday and Sunday

1353
01:22:12,510 --> 01:22:15,480
evening here in Germany, but my
wife wouldn't let me listen to

1354
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:19,590
the whole show. So the next
morning, I would 1.25 it to re

1355
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:22,770
listen to the bits I heard live
and catch up on missed out

1356
01:22:22,770 --> 01:22:26,340
sections. This of course meant
that I'm really fidgety on

1357
01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:29,700
Fridays on Mondays and now I
know why and will not do it

1358
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:37,560
again. How about that? And, and
this final one from Muskogee

1359
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,250
Earl of the Piedmont. The
discussion about audio playback

1360
01:22:41,250 --> 01:22:44,010
speed has given me much to
contemplate about my blind

1361
01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:47,700
parents. My dad lost his
eyesight entirely when he was

1362
01:22:47,700 --> 01:22:50,580
12. In his adult life, he
listened to 1000s of hours of

1363
01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:53,790
audio books, most of which he
checked out for free from the

1364
01:22:53,790 --> 01:22:57,030
National Library for the Blind.
At the time, the NLB provided

1365
01:22:57,030 --> 01:23:00,510
cassette players with playback
speed control. In later years he

1366
01:23:00,510 --> 01:23:03,780
listened to digital audio books
regardless of the format. My dad

1367
01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:06,630
routinely listen to audiobooks
and eventually podcasts on

1368
01:23:06,630 --> 01:23:11,520
playback much greater than 1x
speed. My dad died in 2019 he

1369
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,060
was diagnosed with frontal
temporal lobe dementia. Just

1370
01:23:15,060 --> 01:23:18,810
days Brian prior to his death,
he struggled often with anxiety

1371
01:23:18,810 --> 01:23:22,680
and depression in his later
years. Now my mom has been blind

1372
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,280
since birth, she was a medical
transcriptionist for nearly 50

1373
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:30,480
years. For decades, her words
per minute was 120 Plus, and she

1374
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:34,920
often listened to dictation at
speeds much greater than 1x. For

1375
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,340
the last two years, my siblings
and I have observed what we fear

1376
01:23:38,340 --> 01:23:42,030
are signs of decline in our
cognitive ability. Your point

1377
01:23:42,060 --> 01:23:45,930
about resonance makes me wonder
if long term exposure to

1378
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,530
unnatural resonance can be a
factor in cognitive decline.

1379
01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:53,430
I've consumed a lot of podcasts
and audiobooks in recent years.

1380
01:23:53,610 --> 01:23:56,370
Other producers have noted
playback speed was based on the

1381
01:23:56,370 --> 01:24:00,510
presenters or narrators and I
agree some have slow cadence I

1382
01:24:00,510 --> 01:24:05,970
never listened to NA. at speeds
greater than 1.0 normal rate is

1383
01:24:05,970 --> 01:24:10,440
perfect in fact off putting me
to higher playback speeds. But I

1384
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:14,790
think that maybe we've struck
something here about depression

1385
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:18,690
and anxiety. We could be saving
lives with this John

1386
01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:23,040
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm gonna
give it to you you're the one

1387
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,240
doing it. But I'm a I'm
interested in this this is

1388
01:24:27,630 --> 01:24:31,050
fascinating. We need to think
about it probably there's gotta

1389
01:24:31,050 --> 01:24:33,060
be something to it because if
you start listening to

1390
01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:37,530
everything at 1.5 or I don't
know could you listen to it to

1391
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,740
all some people do Sure. I think
you could if you had the right

1392
01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:43,590
pitch kind of thing it was
accounting for pitch so just

1393
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:43,710
know

1394
01:24:43,710 --> 01:24:46,020
Adam Curry: that works and of
the pitch control is built into

1395
01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:48,900
these systems. You know, it's
like it rarely changes the

1396
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:49,350
pitch. They

1397
01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:51,570
John C Dvorak: first they chop
outside. Well, you sound normal,

1398
01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:53,250
but you're talking real fast.
You start really fast like this

1399
01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:57,270
little bit of detail. Yeah, but
understand by clear,

1400
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,970
Adam Curry: the problem is not
listening to the podcast, the

1401
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,510
problem is the rest of the
world. That's the problem. You

1402
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:06,240
can get depressed if anyone's
slow and not moving at your

1403
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,170
speed. And you do a drive.
You're not anxious. Yes, yes.

1404
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:14,760
John C Dvorak: You should
probably be listening to podcast

1405
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,110
at point eight. No. Now I did
get some notes from people

1406
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:23,250
saying they listen to half speed
now. Like a couple of drunk.

1407
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,280
Adam Curry: People are just
making fun of us by saying no

1408
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,740
one listens at a lower speed. I
don't even know. I don't even

1409
01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:32,970
know why they put lower speed in
it. Except for Ben's point, Ben

1410
01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:34,800
Shapiro, maybe maybe?

1411
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:37,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Shapiro.
There's a couple other people.

1412
01:25:37,170 --> 01:25:37,560
Yeah.

1413
01:25:37,890 --> 01:25:42,450
Adam Curry: Anyway, I'm only
doing this. I've given up on my

1414
01:25:42,450 --> 01:25:47,040
art or art of creating beautiful
programming, given up on that.

1415
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:52,620
Oh, by the way, we've been
accused of being wrong. left at

1416
01:25:52,620 --> 01:25:56,220
least 20 times. You want to go
through this? Because he has

1417
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,660
this guy gives three examples.

1418
01:25:58,410 --> 01:26:00,270
John C Dvorak: Here we have a
mayor culpa, we have to

1419
01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:01,140
apologize for being

1420
01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:04,260
Adam Curry: mayor, maybe maybe
not. This is from black metal

1421
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:07,320
cowboy. He says over the last
several weeks of episodes. I've

1422
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,960
never heard from this guy
before. I've noticed instances

1423
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:10,800
in which you want to be

1424
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,830
John C Dvorak: getting weird
notes from people that don't

1425
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:15,090
show up in the database.

1426
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,110
Adam Curry: Exactly. I've noted
instances in which you and John

1427
01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:22,290
have made factually incorrect
claims. I do not believe you're

1428
01:26:22,290 --> 01:26:25,470
doing so purposely to mislead
your producers. You just don't

1429
01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:31,860
know you're wrong. Okay, the
danger comes the Danger Danger.

1430
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:35,010
Your producers hold you in such
high value. They believe what

1431
01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:38,310
you speak is factually correct
by default. This confirmation

1432
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:41,010
bias leads them to blindly
appeal to your authority and

1433
01:26:41,010 --> 01:26:45,060
propagate all of what you have
said is factual. Below, I have

1434
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:47,790
included three of the
approximately 20 instances I've

1435
01:26:47,790 --> 01:26:51,300
noted over the last 15 episodes.
I am not an expert in any of

1436
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:54,420
these subjects as a mechanical
engineer with over 20 years of

1437
01:26:54,420 --> 01:26:57,180
experience in the aerospace and
defense industry, whose role is

1438
01:26:57,180 --> 01:26:59,490
currently evaluating and
investigating design failures,

1439
01:26:59,490 --> 01:27:01,650
but critical thinking research
is so critical thinking and

1440
01:27:01,650 --> 01:27:05,490
research regardless of the
subject. Okay, so he feels it is

1441
01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:08,010
his duty to apply the same
standards that have no agenda

1442
01:27:08,010 --> 01:27:08,250
show.

1443
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,800
John C Dvorak: I'm glad to get
the list of all 20 items. So

1444
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,940
Adam Curry: he's approximately
20 He only has three. And he

1445
01:27:14,940 --> 01:27:18,900
starts off John offers his
belief that vasectomy has

1446
01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:22,980
changed the appearance and
mannerisms of men, likening them

1447
01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:28,170
to quote old lesbians he has he
further claims this change is so

1448
01:27:28,170 --> 01:27:31,710
profound he can pick out men
with vasectomy is from a crowd.

1449
01:27:32,010 --> 01:27:34,920
He also claimed vasectomy
reversals are almost never

1450
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,790
successful. This claim is
incorrect. Hold on

1451
01:27:38,820 --> 01:27:41,220
John C Dvorak: now that claims
it was what he's doing here.

1452
01:27:41,250 --> 01:27:46,500
This is dissected, does approach
Yes, is to bring up all my

1453
01:27:46,530 --> 01:27:49,980
opinions, which had been
verified by more than a few

1454
01:27:49,980 --> 01:27:52,890
people that and in fact, it
comes from the books that were

1455
01:27:52,890 --> 01:27:57,690
written about this in the mid
20s 1920s. Were vasectomies were

1456
01:27:57,690 --> 01:28:01,770
considered considered a use a
way of making yourself look more

1457
01:28:01,770 --> 01:28:08,610
useful. And and he's in he's
taken that and then conflated it

1458
01:28:08,610 --> 01:28:12,990
with the with what he thinks is
just a wrong opinion that that

1459
01:28:12,990 --> 01:28:14,640
vasectomies can't be reversed.
I'm

1460
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,290
Adam Curry: going to help you on
this. Let's let's read on.

1461
01:28:17,820 --> 01:28:21,480
Roughly half a million men
undergo vasectomy in the US each

1462
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:23,700
year would have been nice if he
included a source to this, by

1463
01:28:23,700 --> 01:28:27,450
John C Dvorak: the way, stop.
I'm sorry to pull it care. But

1464
01:28:27,450 --> 01:28:33,420
go ahead. Go ahead. The guy
writing in has had a vasectomy.

1465
01:28:33,810 --> 01:28:36,120
Adam Curry: Absolutely. That's
why it's number one, no doubt

1466
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:41,220
about it. But he I think he
reads Wikipedia. Anyway, roughly

1467
01:28:41,220 --> 01:28:44,310
half a million men undergo
vasectomies in the US each year

1468
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:48,630
roughly 6% will decide to
undergo a reversal. According to

1469
01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:52,920
Stanford Medicine, no link 90%
of those procedures are

1470
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,130
effective. Even if one were to
debate the definition of

1471
01:28:56,130 --> 01:29:00,570
effective it is still wait, let
me you'll love this. It is still

1472
01:29:00,570 --> 01:29:05,190
a far cry from John's quote.
Almost never. Okay, since you

1473
01:29:05,190 --> 01:29:09,150
put that in quotes, black metal
cowboy. We do have a transcript

1474
01:29:09,150 --> 01:29:13,800
tool which Thank you very much
Steven B. Transcript tool where

1475
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,220
I can search our transcripts
going back about three years and

1476
01:29:17,220 --> 01:29:20,970
here is exactly what John said
what you quoted. You quoted him

1477
01:29:20,970 --> 01:29:26,190
as saying almost never effective
you know so now he's got to

1478
01:29:26,190 --> 01:29:31,020
reverse this. It which rarely
works well you know, he doesn't

1479
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:34,770
he doesn't he rarely works is
the quote my friend not almost

1480
01:29:34,770 --> 01:29:36,540
never rarely works.

1481
01:29:36,750 --> 01:29:38,850
John C Dvorak: Yeah. If you're
gonna be this kind of picky guy.

1482
01:29:38,850 --> 01:29:39,600
Exactly.

1483
01:29:40,020 --> 01:29:41,460
Adam Curry: By the way, I'm
going to use this against you

1484
01:29:41,460 --> 01:29:44,310
all the time too, because it's
really fast. Record regarding

1485
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:45,660
vasectomy is changing. You won't

1486
01:29:45,690 --> 01:29:46,740
John C Dvorak: get very far.

1487
01:29:50,250 --> 01:29:54,240
Adam Curry: Hold on, is Did you
also say old lesbians? I don't

1488
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,660
know if you said old lesbians.
No, you think so. You didn't say

1489
01:29:57,660 --> 01:30:03,240
old lesbians. You did not Now
well I know Hold on, hold on,

1490
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:07,650
hold on the exact opposite is
true. Listen to this

1491
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,290
John C Dvorak: noticing these
guys started to have a youthful

1492
01:30:10,290 --> 01:30:15,240
look. as they got older they
started looking like young

1493
01:30:15,390 --> 01:30:16,260
lesbians.

1494
01:30:16,830 --> 01:30:21,180
Adam Curry: Lesbians not all
right, okay for you. For me,

1495
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:25,320
study after study, most of which
are infuriatingly paywalled has

1496
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,230
shown there is no charge in
hormone, no change in hormone

1497
01:30:28,230 --> 01:30:31,230
levels of men who undergo
vasectomies. There are studies

1498
01:30:31,230 --> 01:30:34,200
that show emotional changes
resulting from vasectomy ie

1499
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,750
feeling less masculine, but
those emotions are purely

1500
01:30:36,750 --> 01:30:41,970
psychological and revert over
time. Studies aside by what

1501
01:30:41,970 --> 01:30:44,340
mechanic would have mechanics
would have said to me invoke

1502
01:30:44,340 --> 01:30:46,980
these changes, John speaks up
well, you've got everything

1503
01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:50,670
wrong so far. All of a second he
does is prevent prevent storm

1504
01:30:50,820 --> 01:30:54,240
sperm from entering the semen.
The testes still produce the

1505
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:58,770
same hormones and release them.
This guy is snipped. I agree

1506
01:30:58,770 --> 01:31:04,590
with you there. So your response
other than he got all of your

1507
01:31:04,590 --> 01:31:05,400
quotes wrong,

1508
01:31:06,300 --> 01:31:08,400
John C Dvorak: besides getting
all my quotes wrong, including

1509
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:15,360
young lesbians. Okay, I don't
care. I'm just telling you what

1510
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,300
I think I and I, and I have been
able to spot these other people

1511
01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:22,050
have to exactly and it's and
it's been documented in a number

1512
01:31:22,050 --> 01:31:24,810
of books in the in the 20s when
this was a very popular

1513
01:31:24,810 --> 01:31:25,560
procedure.

1514
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:27,810
Adam Curry: And it was done
specifically to give people a

1515
01:31:27,810 --> 01:31:29,430
young look correct?

1516
01:31:29,460 --> 01:31:32,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was,
yeah, it had specifically to

1517
01:31:32,430 --> 01:31:35,790
give people a min or a youthful
appearance.

1518
01:31:36,150 --> 01:31:41,040
Adam Curry: The second one is
about me, Adam pointelle. I love

1519
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,310
doing this. Adam points out
earthquakes are no longer

1520
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:47,970
measured using the Richter scale
and imply something nefarious is

1521
01:31:47,970 --> 01:31:51,420
at foot, or at least this is
incompetence in reporting of

1522
01:31:51,420 --> 01:31:54,690
earthquakes. I am not a
seismologist, but the answer was

1523
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:59,100
easy to find. In fact, Wikipedia
has a well known, highly

1524
01:31:59,190 --> 01:32:04,050
detailed overview on the
subject. And then he goes into

1525
01:32:04,050 --> 01:32:08,490
the change that was made to the
Richter scale. And all I said,

1526
01:32:08,730 --> 01:32:12,660
All I said was they used the
momentum scale. And that was

1527
01:32:12,660 --> 01:32:16,380
changed to make the numbers much
bigger than the Richter scale,

1528
01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:20,550
which is used in mainstream
media to make things sound often

1529
01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:24,660
much worse than they are. When
it comes to nefarious things

1530
01:32:24,660 --> 01:32:29,070
being at foot that is regarding
the earthquake machine. As the

1531
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:34,380
Secretary of Defense in 1987,
I'm going to say Richard Cohen

1532
01:32:34,440 --> 01:32:38,700
specifically said we and other
countries have earthquake

1533
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:44,970
technology to evoke earthquakes.
So there's no debunking on that.

1534
01:32:45,660 --> 01:32:49,770
But maybe in this one particular
case, we didn't. I didn't delve

1535
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:55,230
into the moment, the momentum
scale versus the Richter scale,

1536
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,620
so you should probably listen a
little bit more before you jump.

1537
01:32:59,370 --> 01:33:02,850
Now the third one is my
favorite. And this is not even

1538
01:33:02,850 --> 01:33:06,300
you it's about your wife, which
is which is just gets me mad.

1539
01:33:06,930 --> 01:33:13,710
Yeah, he blames you, but it's
from me. John claims eggs should

1540
01:33:13,710 --> 01:33:17,190
never be salted before cooking,
because the salt makes them

1541
01:33:17,190 --> 01:33:21,090
tough. Is that? Is that what you
said? It makes them tough.

1542
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,310
John C Dvorak: This is Mimi's
thing. I've never I mean, I've

1543
01:33:23,310 --> 01:33:26,580
said it by I'm always referring
to her. She's the AIG expert.

1544
01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:30,780
She wrote a 700 page book too
many eggs.com It's available for

1545
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:35,790
free on a PDF, just sign up for
it. And she is the expert on

1546
01:33:35,790 --> 01:33:39,180
Asus. She said this and other
people have written down since I

1547
01:33:39,180 --> 01:33:43,170
mentioned it on the show. That
then they all said the same

1548
01:33:43,170 --> 01:33:44,910
thing that eggs taste better
this way.

1549
01:33:44,970 --> 01:33:49,140
Adam Curry: Now he says they're
tough. They are tough. Did you

1550
01:33:49,140 --> 01:33:51,150
John C Dvorak: actually that's
what Mimi said Mimi said. It

1551
01:33:51,150 --> 01:33:55,560
makes them tough. And there are
other I think Gordon Ramsay also

1552
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:57,150
subscribes to this thesis.

1553
01:33:57,510 --> 01:34:00,630
Adam Curry: This belief is found
in many cookbooks and propagated

1554
01:34:00,630 --> 01:34:03,570
by many famous chefs. In
addition to making them talk

1555
01:34:03,570 --> 01:34:06,150
they say salting eggs before
cooking will turn them gay I

1556
01:34:06,150 --> 01:34:10,020
mean gray. Others make a
contradictory claim that salt

1557
01:34:10,020 --> 01:34:13,470
will make them turn watery.
However, numerous recent

1558
01:34:13,470 --> 01:34:17,670
experiments no link provided
have shown only incorrect salt

1559
01:34:17,670 --> 01:34:20,340
does not impact color or
texture. Regardless of how far

1560
01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:23,070
ahead of cooking salt was added.
Added. cooking method and

1561
01:34:23,070 --> 01:34:27,330
temperature are the drivers of
texture and color. In fact,

1562
01:34:27,330 --> 01:34:30,810
John's claim doesn't even match
with how the chemistry works.

1563
01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:33,840
The egg proteins are mostly
negatively charged which keeps

1564
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,170
them apart until high heat is
applied. The salt dissolves into

1565
01:34:37,170 --> 01:34:40,080
positive and negative ions which
neutralize the charge of the

1566
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,500
proteins, allowing them to
coagulate at lower temperature

1567
01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:49,200
producing a more tender
scrambled egg. Dude this is the

1568
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:54,270
kind of stuff with Ken just
drives me nuts. I love it drives

1569
01:34:54,270 --> 01:34:55,260
me nuts.

1570
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:57,750
John C Dvorak: I wish this guy
would take it that egg

1571
01:34:57,750 --> 01:35:01,890
commentary. Yeah, that was links
Yes, and then help them posted

1572
01:35:01,890 --> 01:35:05,610
on the AIG blog that's floating
around somewhere that egg blog

1573
01:35:05,610 --> 01:35:09,750
nice a blog, and it's posted.
It'd be great. We use it.

1574
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:15,450
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Now
that we've been proven to be a

1575
01:35:15,450 --> 01:35:16,260
factually, I'd

1576
01:35:16,260 --> 01:35:20,400
John C Dvorak: like to know what
the other 17 items are.

1577
01:35:20,849 --> 01:35:22,949
Adam Curry: If they're all of
this severity, people should

1578
01:35:22,949 --> 01:35:25,049
still slip they suck these. By
the way, let

1579
01:35:25,050 --> 01:35:27,060
John C Dvorak: me just say this.
This is

1580
01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:30,870
Adam Curry: the black metal
cowboy, a black

1581
01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:34,380
John C Dvorak: male cowboy you
suck. These IDs is not even

1582
01:35:34,380 --> 01:35:36,750
close to being something worth
complaining about.

1583
01:35:36,780 --> 01:35:40,380
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. If
you really want to complain

1584
01:35:40,380 --> 01:35:43,320
about something, do it Russell
branded. Did you see Oh,

1585
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:47,520
Russell? Russell Brand. Let's
just set and I want to I want to

1586
01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:49,680
play this clip. Because it's the

1587
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:53,040
John C Dvorak: one with Heilmann
Yes. Oh, Heilmann couldn't get a

1588
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:57,000
word in Edge. Hi, almonds a
doofus. Now. Russell Russell

1589
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,300
Brand is really sharp.

1590
01:36:00,540 --> 01:36:03,480
Adam Curry: You know? heileman?
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1591
01:36:04,290 --> 01:36:05,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know
Heilmann where you

1592
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,500
Adam Curry: would you say in the
past, you might even have

1593
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:09,960
considered each other
acquaintances or friends?

1594
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:12,750
John C Dvorak: I would say
acquaintances for sure. I never

1595
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:16,620
been there was the rule is and
anyone out there was an old

1596
01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:21,420
friend acquaintance. Whatever.
Nobody's your friend unless

1597
01:36:21,420 --> 01:36:25,020
you've been to their house for
lunch or dinner, or they've been

1598
01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:26,520
to your house for lunch or
dinner.

1599
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,840
Adam Curry: Now, I would say
I've been to your house once for

1600
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,910
dinner. I don't think we're
friends.

1601
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,000
John C Dvorak: No, no. Okay.
It's not an exclusive thing. I'm

1602
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,450
saying. If somebody if you say
some as your friend, and they

1603
01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:45,600
you don't have that qualifier in
their house, or they've been to

1604
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,850
your house for lunch or dinner,
then they are definitely not

1605
01:36:47,850 --> 01:36:51,660
your friend. Yes. I've been to
plenty of people's houses for

1606
01:36:51,660 --> 01:36:54,540
lunch and dinner or whatever.
And I don't consider them my

1607
01:36:54,540 --> 01:36:57,570
friends or their acquaintances
or be somebody I might not even

1608
01:36:57,570 --> 01:37:00,090
like them. Yeah, exactly. That's
different. Exactly.

1609
01:37:00,630 --> 01:37:05,250
Adam Curry: So John Holman who I
think he's, he does mainly

1610
01:37:05,610 --> 01:37:08,970
reports. You know, he does
opinion I think for morning,

1611
01:37:08,970 --> 01:37:12,480
Joe. Certainly. He's a part of
the Morning Joe team, although I

1612
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,570
think a lot of times not he's on
remote. He's not always in the

1613
01:37:15,570 --> 01:37:23,160
studio. And but he also think
appears on other shows. But he's

1614
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,160
always very opinionated. And
he's part of and this is the

1615
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,940
context of what happened here.
It was it was fantastic segment.

1616
01:37:30,660 --> 01:37:35,640
The context is that MSNBC, CNN,
me, but also, I mean, anything

1617
01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:40,590
every news organization, cable
network or otherwise, has been

1618
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:46,470
trying to discredit FoxNews by
saying they're such liars. They

1619
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:51,780
didn't even believe the January
6, election stolen conspiracy.

1620
01:37:52,380 --> 01:37:56,040
Would they? They said they did
on the on, on Fox News. But

1621
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,830
privately they all said, Oh,
they don't believe it. And this

1622
01:37:58,830 --> 01:38:02,130
has just been ongoing when he'd
been debunking for a while.

1623
01:38:02,130 --> 01:38:06,000
Yeah. Which is just, it's
annoying. When you're making

1624
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,700
each other the news story is
what you're doing. And you're

1625
01:38:08,820 --> 01:38:12,720
you're discrediting the entire
news business. And and it took

1626
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,930
Russell Brand and I appreciate
this and part of it is because

1627
01:38:16,290 --> 01:38:21,900
of his accent, the use the words
he uses his incredible command

1628
01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:26,100
of language, and something that
that I didn't like, but I think

1629
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:30,810
it's effective. He touches
Heilmann all the time. Graduates

1630
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:35,340
John C Dvorak: not sure what
technique of persuasion that is,

1631
01:38:35,340 --> 01:38:36,180
it's dangerous

1632
01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:38,490
Adam Curry: because I would say
get your hands off of me you lie

1633
01:38:38,490 --> 01:38:39,720
me, bitch.

1634
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,990
John C Dvorak: That's what how
am I said he would know that in

1635
01:38:42,990 --> 01:38:43,800
advance.

1636
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,440
Adam Curry: Oh, maybe. Okay,
because he was also calling him

1637
01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:49,620
Darling. Darling and he would
touch his arm which like that's

1638
01:38:49,620 --> 01:38:50,880
really aggressive.

1639
01:38:51,420 --> 01:38:56,010
John C Dvorak: He was he was
sitting for this is to back this

1640
01:38:56,010 --> 01:38:58,830
up. This is from the Bill Maher
show just this last Friday.

1641
01:38:58,830 --> 01:39:03,750
Yeah. And and they had Russell
Brand on him Russell Brand took

1642
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:06,630
over the show. I mean, he's one
of those guys. You'd be hard to

1643
01:39:06,630 --> 01:39:10,740
work with. Because he's a he's a
mic hog, but he's really good at

1644
01:39:10,740 --> 01:39:17,580
it. And he's very good at it.
Yeah. And so he's a he'd be

1645
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:20,790
tough. He'd be one of those guys
you don't want to work with no

1646
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:26,220
because he's gonna dominate me
he his ability to handle Seymour

1647
01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:30,990
Hersh. There was was one
indicator, very good, very rare.

1648
01:39:30,990 --> 01:39:36,000
He is a natural at this. And I
have to say he's fine. He's

1649
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,530
feeling his oats. And when he
sees somebody that's weak and

1650
01:39:40,530 --> 01:39:44,400
Heilmann is not Johann is a
writer who doesn't you know, he

1651
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,340
doesn't have the kind of
broadcasting chops or

1652
01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:50,910
performance chops that a guy
like Russell Brand has. Yeah.

1653
01:39:51,060 --> 01:39:54,570
And I and Russell Brand may
actually be boosted on something

1654
01:39:54,570 --> 01:39:58,290
too, for all I know, although I
don't see I don't know. I think

1655
01:39:58,290 --> 01:39:59,970
he's clean. I mean, he probably
is

1656
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,370
Adam Curry: He was on heroin for
a while there. He's clean. But

1657
01:40:02,370 --> 01:40:02,760
he

1658
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:07,650
John C Dvorak: is. He sees a
weak guy. And he's just

1659
01:40:07,890 --> 01:40:11,700
steamrolls him. Steve
steamrolled him.

1660
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:15,060
Adam Curry: He did. It's a three
minute clip, but it's well worth

1661
01:40:15,060 --> 01:40:15,720
it. Sean,

1662
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:17,910
Unknown: I've not known you
long, but I love you already.

1663
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:19,170
But I have to say that it's

1664
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:22,410
Adam Curry: actually I think
he's a master NLP guy or

1665
01:40:22,410 --> 01:40:25,230
persuader, saying stuff like
that. That right off the bat. I

1666
01:40:25,230 --> 01:40:29,190
don't know who you are by love
you already. These are very

1667
01:40:29,190 --> 01:40:32,100
powerful, very powerful things
he's doing. He's bright brand

1668
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:33,570
has chops in this, John,

1669
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:35,760
Unknown: I've not known you
long, but I love you already.

1670
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,210
But I have to say that it's,
it's disingenuous to claim that

1671
01:40:39,210 --> 01:40:42,150
the biases that are exhibited on
Fox News are any different from

1672
01:40:42,150 --> 01:40:46,320
the biases exhibited on MSNBC,
it's difficult to suggest that

1673
01:40:46,530 --> 01:40:50,070
these corporations operate as
anything other than mouthpieces

1674
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:54,360
for their affiliate owners in
Black Rock and Vanguard, unless

1675
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,560
we start to embrace and then
also make like just spiritually

1676
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,310
if I may use that word in your
great country. We have to take

1677
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,000
responsibility for our own
perspective. I've been on that

1678
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:12,930
MSNBC May it was propagandists
not crackery. It was absurd the

1679
01:41:12,930 --> 01:41:16,800
way they carried on and it was
it wasn't the morning there was

1680
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,140
no one called Joe then
concentrate. They didn't

1681
01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:22,980
understand the basic tenets of
June journalism. No one was

1682
01:41:22,980 --> 01:41:25,200
willing to stick up for genuine
American here

1683
01:41:25,230 --> 01:41:27,270
Adam Curry: and listen to the
audience. By the way, the

1684
01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:31,080
audience who you would presume
be mostly leftists at the Bill

1685
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,530
Maher show they are up there
applauding for a lot of things

1686
01:41:34,530 --> 01:41:38,400
that if any other right of
center person said would be

1687
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:39,060
Whoa.

1688
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,920
Unknown: Like Edward Snowden, no
one was willing to talk about

1689
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,680
Julian Assange and what He
suffered, trying to bring real

1690
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:53,220
journalism to the American
people. Sit within the castle of

1691
01:41:53,220 --> 01:41:58,770
MSNBC, throwing rocks at Fox
News is ludicrous. Make MSNBC

1692
01:41:59,670 --> 01:42:00,600
MSNBC

1693
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,550
Adam Curry: that landed that
landed that Joe

1694
01:42:06,030 --> 01:42:08,520
John C Dvorak: the moment one
more thing you should note,

1695
01:42:08,940 --> 01:42:13,410
because we don't have visuals
here. Heilmann is trying as hard

1696
01:42:13,410 --> 01:42:15,690
as he can not to cry off him

1697
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,320
Adam Curry: and not to cry.
Yeah, and he but he's also he's

1698
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:23,160
leaning way back. He's like, Oh,
and he's trying to get a word in

1699
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,010
edgewise. You can't do that with
a guy like brand. You got to

1700
01:42:26,010 --> 01:42:28,320
just sit there and let him
finish but he kept

1701
01:42:29,190 --> 01:42:31,980
John C Dvorak: you have to
prepare a zinger at the end.

1702
01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:32,910
Yeah, it's the only way you can
do

1703
01:42:33,269 --> 01:42:39,749
Adam Curry: what you do calm and
collected Exactly. The moment

1704
01:42:42,179 --> 01:42:46,079
Russell Russell darling, see,
that's the mistake. That's a

1705
01:42:46,079 --> 01:42:48,719
mistake when Heilmann goes
Russell darling he's trying to

1706
01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:49,259
eat trying to

1707
01:42:49,650 --> 01:42:51,960
John C Dvorak: mirror he's
trying to play Russell's game

1708
01:42:52,140 --> 01:42:56,250
Bad Idea Heilemann get back to
raw always a bad idea to do that

1709
01:42:56,250 --> 01:42:56,370
get

1710
01:42:56,370 --> 01:42:58,410
Adam Curry: back to writing bro
this is not your not your

1711
01:42:58,410 --> 01:43:00,210
territory. It's not your
battlefield.

1712
01:43:01,020 --> 01:43:05,100
Unknown: Darling the moment that
you give me a specific example

1713
01:43:05,310 --> 01:43:05,940
an actual

1714
01:43:09,390 --> 01:43:11,730
Adam Curry: brand was prepared
for this you could tell me just

1715
01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:17,430
Unknown: tell you what. I'd like
to hear a specific example

1716
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:20,310
approval specific example of an
MSNBC correspondent or anchor

1717
01:43:20,430 --> 01:43:23,610
being on television saying
something they knew was false

1718
01:43:23,610 --> 01:43:26,760
and we're saying behind the
scenes to people this is I'm not

1719
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,640
to go out and we know that we
know that the election wasn't

1720
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,420
stolen if he were cool but I
will go on but I will go I will

1721
01:43:33,420 --> 01:43:38,400
go out on television and say the
opposite. I will lie wait Give

1722
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,540
just give me up give me this
specific example example All

1723
01:43:42,540 --> 01:43:43,410
right, I'm with you.

1724
01:43:43,410 --> 01:43:46,950
Adam Curry: I think it's a false
equivalency and this Bill Maher

1725
01:43:46,980 --> 01:43:49,440
who I don't know why he said
well I think it's a false

1726
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:52,890
equivalency so what he's what
Bill Maher is saying is that

1727
01:43:52,890 --> 01:43:57,450
MSNBC never does that they never
and the stuff about Julian

1728
01:43:57,450 --> 01:44:00,060
Assange well of course that's
not what Russell Brand meant.

1729
01:44:00,060 --> 01:44:04,380
That wasn't the equivalency he's
saying that MSNBC also has

1730
01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:09,060
propaganda that's that's what he
said and Bill Maher's like what

1731
01:44:09,090 --> 01:44:12,450
he should have stayed out of it.
That made I agree that made him

1732
01:44:12,450 --> 01:44:15,990
angry. This was a moment to sit
back and just enjoy the ratings

1733
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:18,450
Unknown: but I will go on but I
will I will go out on television

1734
01:44:18,450 --> 01:44:22,980
and say the opposite. I will lie
my answer would give just give

1735
01:44:22,980 --> 01:44:24,990
me up give me this specific
example I'm just saying basic

1736
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:29,100
example All right, I'm with you.
I think it's a false equivalency

1737
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:34,890
right all about bias. It's a
possibility because you don't

1738
01:44:34,890 --> 01:44:37,020
actually know anything about any
of these organizations. You're

1739
01:44:37,020 --> 01:44:39,630
talking about even MSNBC once
Big fucking deal my

1740
01:44:39,630 --> 01:44:40,230
darling it was

1741
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,910
Adam Curry: who now he shows
he's mad by saying big fucking

1742
01:44:44,910 --> 01:44:46,440
deal. Hyman sinking, he's

1743
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:49,350
John C Dvorak: drowning. Also
talking faster than he normally

1744
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:49,740
does. He's

1745
01:44:49,740 --> 01:44:50,880
Adam Curry: drowning. He's
drowning

1746
01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:52,560
Unknown: about bias. It's a
possibility because you don't

1747
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,780
actually know anything about any
of these organizations you're

1748
01:44:54,780 --> 01:44:57,390
talking about even on MSNBC once
Big fucking deal, my

1749
01:44:57,390 --> 01:44:58,350
darling it was more than

1750
01:44:59,850 --> 01:45:02,100
that. You may have a single
single

1751
01:45:03,540 --> 01:45:07,950
example. You want an examples,
the ludicrous, outrageous

1752
01:45:07,950 --> 01:45:12,060
criticisms of Joe Rogan around
ivermectin, deliberately

1753
01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:15,990
referring to his a hot medicine
with a new perspective medicine.

1754
01:45:17,610 --> 01:45:21,180
Model turning on the TV saying
if you take this vaccine, you're

1755
01:45:21,180 --> 01:45:23,640
not going to get it when
clinically trolled.

1756
01:45:24,210 --> 01:45:26,220
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
non responsive? What does that

1757
01:45:26,220 --> 01:45:31,470
what are you trying to say
there? He says non responsive

1758
01:45:31,470 --> 01:45:31,530
the

1759
01:45:31,530 --> 01:45:33,630
John C Dvorak: Heilmann was
saying non response. Yeah,

1760
01:45:33,630 --> 01:45:34,890
Adam Curry: what did you What
are you trying to say?

1761
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:39,840
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Because it doesn't make any

1762
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,460
sense. He's very responsive.

1763
01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:44,910
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just don't
understand exactly what he's

1764
01:45:44,910 --> 01:45:45,570
saying. I think he was

1765
01:45:45,570 --> 01:45:47,040
John C Dvorak: shorted out by
then. All right,

1766
01:45:47,130 --> 01:45:49,950
Unknown: turning on the TV
saying is you take this vaccine,

1767
01:45:49,950 --> 01:45:53,490
you're not gonna get it when
clinical trials are sponsored.

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01:45:53,490 --> 01:45:56,940
You have to listen. Do you think
you can improve America?

1769
01:45:57,510 --> 01:46:01,830
Determined validly condemning
Fox News without acknowledging

1770
01:46:01,830 --> 01:46:04,830
that you're participating in the
same game? Did you know just

1771
01:46:04,830 --> 01:46:08,160
listen to Bernie Sanders,
somebody plainly legitimately

1772
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,190
believes in his country and
believes it's possible to change

1773
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,210
but he's bound by corruption is
bound by the lobbying system.

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01:46:16,590 --> 01:46:20,400
clear to you, Bill. That's one
of the great pundits and experts

1775
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:24,690
and comic voices for systemic
change is required. Money has to

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01:46:24,690 --> 01:46:28,080
be taken out of politics. We
need new political systems that

1777
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:31,710
genuinely represent ordinary
Americans so that we can

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01:46:31,740 --> 01:46:35,850
overcome cultural differences
and bickering about Mitch

1779
01:46:35,850 --> 01:46:39,630
propagandists network is the
worst is not going to save a

1780
01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:42,930
single American life not improve
the life of a single American

1781
01:46:42,930 --> 01:46:45,570
trial not going to improve
America's standing in the world.

1782
01:46:45,630 --> 01:46:48,540
And the world needs a strong
America. I'll tell you that.

1783
01:46:52,170 --> 01:46:55,230
Adam Curry: Oh, man, oh, props.
The Russell Brand. That was

1784
01:46:55,230 --> 01:47:00,870
dynamite. Was pretty really,
really good. Really good. I

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01:47:00,870 --> 01:47:09,270
really enjoyed that. Phenomenal.
Okay, let's do it. He's

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01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:11,460
John C Dvorak: one of those
guys. I've run into these guys.

1787
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:17,610
In you know, public speaking
arenas or brands, Russell Brand.

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01:47:18,030 --> 01:47:21,450
No into these guys, this type of
person. Yeah. So I mean, a type

1789
01:47:21,450 --> 01:47:27,540
of person who can you can't beat
in an argument or a situation

1790
01:47:27,540 --> 01:47:32,850
where there's in a debate
situation. And though just your

1791
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:39,510
your, you can't do it. And I
think Shapiro is kind of like

1792
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:43,290
that in a debate. Oh, without a
doubt without it. And so what

1793
01:47:43,290 --> 01:47:49,530
you do is you never get into
this with them, ever.

1794
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:52,470
Adam Curry: And the funny thing
is that this this debate that

1795
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:56,730
they're having is not the actual
debate, this whole noise and

1796
01:47:56,730 --> 01:48:00,870
that's kind of too bad is the
Dominion voting machines,

1797
01:48:00,870 --> 01:48:04,800
Dominion systems, they are suing
Fox News for defamation. And

1798
01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:07,260
this is all coming out of
discovery, you know, the text

1799
01:48:07,260 --> 01:48:09,960
messages, but what it's
obfuscating is the fact that

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01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:14,640
Dominions themselves that our
systems are shipped. You can get

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01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:18,030
wrong results. It's easy to hack
into, you know, they're no good.

1802
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,360
That's also in the discovery.
All of this is obvious getting

1803
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:26,640
that that's that's the sad part
of it. That's the sad part. But

1804
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,030
anyway, it was fun
entertainment. We like bread and

1805
01:48:30,030 --> 01:48:33,570
games. That's That's who we are
as a people. Before we take a

1806
01:48:33,570 --> 01:48:36,300
break, I'd like to delve into
CPAC I think you have some

1807
01:48:36,300 --> 01:48:41,130
clips. I'll set you up. tonight.
I'll just set you up on

1808
01:48:41,130 --> 01:48:45,450
Unknown: on. Tonight the race to
2024 intensifying as former

1809
01:48:45,450 --> 01:48:48,750
President Trump makes his case
for the Republican presidential

1810
01:48:48,750 --> 01:48:50,280
nomination. We're going

1811
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,940
to complete the mission we're
going to see this battle through

1812
01:48:53,940 --> 01:48:55,290
to ultimate victory.

1813
01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:59,190
Trump taking center stage at
CPAC. The Conservative Political

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01:48:59,190 --> 01:49:03,960
Action Conference a once must
attend event for GOP stars now

1815
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:06,180
dominated by his supporters.

1816
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:12,060
We believe in it is very Trump
centered around here.

1817
01:49:12,180 --> 01:49:14,250
It's not Trump 2024 Is Trump
forever.

1818
01:49:14,430 --> 01:49:17,760
For more South Carolina governor
turn candidate Nikki Haley

1819
01:49:17,790 --> 01:49:24,630
heckled by the crowd. Other
possible GOP hopefuls like

1820
01:49:24,630 --> 01:49:27,810
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,
and former Vice President Mike

1821
01:49:27,810 --> 01:49:31,260
Pence skipping CPAC,
highlighting the divide over the

1822
01:49:31,260 --> 01:49:32,400
party's future.

1823
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:34,980
We are over here tearing each
other apart. And

1824
01:49:34,980 --> 01:49:38,820
tonight as President Biden moles
his reelection bid, he now faces

1825
01:49:38,850 --> 01:49:42,870
a Democratic challenger. Self
Help author Marianne Williamson

1826
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:46,650
launching another long shot
campaign speaking exclusively to

1827
01:49:46,650 --> 01:49:48,360
ABCs Jonathan Karl,

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01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:51,810
the Democratic Party needs to be
a conduit for the healing of

1829
01:49:51,810 --> 01:49:54,480
this country. But first the
Democratic Party needs to look

1830
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:55,890
in the mirror and heal itself.

1831
01:49:56,220 --> 01:50:00,180
Adam Curry: Nope, she wasn't at
CPAC why she why why did Bring

1832
01:50:00,180 --> 01:50:00,840
her in

1833
01:50:01,410 --> 01:50:05,610
John C Dvorak: just a throwaway.
What what channel was this? ABC?

1834
01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:10,410
I have no idea. We're just
entertainment value. I have no

1835
01:50:10,410 --> 01:50:15,780
idea ABC Disney i Oh, no. I have
mine reports from NPR in there

1836
01:50:15,810 --> 01:50:19,260
not that much different. They're
not dissimilar. But they do have

1837
01:50:19,260 --> 01:50:21,840
a little more details about one
thing or another, even though

1838
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:25,110
they didn't they produced this
before the Trump speech which we

1839
01:50:25,110 --> 01:50:26,640
can talk about CPAC. One

1840
01:50:26,789 --> 01:50:30,089
Unknown: CPAC is often let me
put it this way, A Chorus Line

1841
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:34,409
for Republican candidates where,
you know, they audition before

1842
01:50:34,409 --> 01:50:37,409
politically active young
conservatives who might want to

1843
01:50:37,409 --> 01:50:41,729
work in their political
campaigns. As that been the case

1844
01:50:41,729 --> 01:50:42,599
this year, though, that's a

1845
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:44,880
really good way to put it
because it generally is

1846
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,310
something of a chorus line of
Republicans who are kind of

1847
01:50:47,310 --> 01:50:50,790
coming in trying to play to the
sort of 1000s of conservatives,

1848
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:54,060
usually young activists who get
together they're part of the

1849
01:50:54,090 --> 01:50:57,000
conservative movement. Really a
weathervane for the conservative

1850
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,880
movement is what CPAC winds up
being. But this time around,

1851
01:51:00,060 --> 01:51:02,670
really not many of those
potential presidential

1852
01:51:02,670 --> 01:51:05,730
candidates showed up. We did
hear from a couple of them, and

1853
01:51:05,730 --> 01:51:08,520
Nikki Haley was one She's the
former South Carolina governor

1854
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,730
who worked as UN ambassador in
the Trump administration. Here's

1855
01:51:11,730 --> 01:51:14,730
what some of what she had to say
she really tried to appeal to

1856
01:51:14,730 --> 01:51:15,840
the right wing of the party.

1857
01:51:15,870 --> 01:51:19,920
wokeness is a virus more
dangerous than any pandemic

1858
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:24,330
hands down. I have traveled the
world and back, and I've seen

1859
01:51:24,330 --> 01:51:29,130
what's out there. America isn't
perfect, but the principles at

1860
01:51:29,130 --> 01:51:33,300
the heart of America aren't
perfect. And take it from me.

1861
01:51:33,900 --> 01:51:38,370
The first minority female
governor in history, America is

1862
01:51:38,370 --> 01:51:40,560
not a racist country.

1863
01:51:42,090 --> 01:51:44,340
You know, there's a lot in that,
obviously. And you can tell

1864
01:51:44,340 --> 01:51:47,550
there she's kind of trying to
walk this line. You know, she's

1865
01:51:47,550 --> 01:51:50,340
throwing red meat to the base
hoping to win them over. But

1866
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,520
Donald Trump really has a real
stronghold on a lot of that

1867
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,820
base. She really needs to win
over white collar Republicans,

1868
01:51:56,940 --> 01:51:59,580
who are the ones who are mostly
saying that they want an

1869
01:51:59,580 --> 01:52:00,570
alternative to Trump.

1870
01:52:01,350 --> 01:52:04,980
Adam Curry: I find Nikki Haley
an interesting entrant into this

1871
01:52:04,980 --> 01:52:09,780
because she's literally using
DeSantis his line DeSantis is

1872
01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:15,600
the anti woke guy. That's all he
talks about. He's the anti woke

1873
01:52:15,630 --> 01:52:19,890
Why would she jump and by the
way, her voice. I keep how great

1874
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,520
it really does head Zippy thinks
it sucks. No, it's just

1875
01:52:25,020 --> 01:52:27,960
John C Dvorak: great. Yeah, you.
She hasn't gotten any charisma.

1876
01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:32,100
Adam Curry: Zero charisma. She
Riker

1877
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:35,430
John C Dvorak: is milk writing
voice. Not particularly

1878
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:39,810
attractive. I'm sure she has to
some people, but not

1879
01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:41,940
particularly attractive. She's
not like you know, somebody you

1880
01:52:41,940 --> 01:52:47,880
want to really look at. And to
be honest about it. And know

1881
01:52:47,910 --> 01:52:53,640
nothing. She's kind of a hawk.
She's a little bit of a neocon.

1882
01:52:53,850 --> 01:52:57,210
Yeah. And I don't ever thought
she was that supportive of Trump

1883
01:52:57,210 --> 01:53:00,180
when she was when she had been
hired by him. No,

1884
01:53:00,210 --> 01:53:03,300
Adam Curry: no, she wasn't.
Well, she was running for you

1885
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:05,700
know, we've been hearing of her
running for a long time.

1886
01:53:05,700 --> 01:53:08,130
John C Dvorak: She thinks that
she's got the chops to run for

1887
01:53:08,130 --> 01:53:10,350
president. She she thinks that
if somebody wants to have her

1888
01:53:10,350 --> 01:53:12,960
breasts, she's not going to get
she's like Kamala Harris.

1889
01:53:12,990 --> 01:53:17,160
Adam Curry: How about this?
Could she be a trial balloon for

1890
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:22,320
DeSantis? Trying rice
presidency? No, no, no, no. No

1891
01:53:22,380 --> 01:53:26,520
trial because DeSantis didn't
speak with us a trial balloon to

1892
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:30,090
see what sticks what works so
that DeSantis can hone his

1893
01:53:30,090 --> 01:53:30,900
message.

1894
01:53:32,370 --> 01:53:35,430
John C Dvorak: Just a thought
No. Synthesis so hesitant

1895
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:38,340
shoulders above her head? I
don't think he has anything to

1896
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:42,480
do with it. All right. Let's go
to part two.

1897
01:53:42,660 --> 01:53:45,840
Unknown: Mike Pompeo, former
Secretary of State also spoke he

1898
01:53:46,830 --> 01:53:49,470
has been going through all the
expected motions of someone

1899
01:53:49,470 --> 01:53:52,230
who's considering becoming a
candidate. Did he try to

1900
01:53:52,230 --> 01:53:54,270
distance himself at all from
Donald Trump?

1901
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,360
Yeah. And I was really listening
to see what kind of line he was

1902
01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,090
going to draw because it hasn't
been clear how he's going to

1903
01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:03,240
distinguish himself. But he did
try to make something of an

1904
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,610
electability argument. Let's
take a listen to that.

1905
01:54:05,670 --> 01:54:08,940
We lost three elections in a
row, and the popular vote and

1906
01:54:08,940 --> 01:54:11,490
seven of the last eight. There
are many reasons for this. But

1907
01:54:11,490 --> 01:54:15,300
one of them is I think they've
lost trust in the conservative

1908
01:54:15,300 --> 01:54:18,360
ideas. And this is the task
that's in front of us. And I am

1909
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,270
convinced we can do it. Because
we're right.

1910
01:54:21,690 --> 01:54:24,420
You know, Pompeo really took
what was kind of an oblique shot

1911
01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:27,780
at Trump, but kind of veiled.
Really, you know, he talked

1912
01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:30,000
about himself having been a
Sunday school teacher and that

1913
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,240
the country needs that kind of
character. But his speech wasn't

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01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:37,020
exactly a barnburner. Neither
was Nikki Haley's, really, and

1915
01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:40,230
they spoke both in front of kind
of half empty audiences and

1916
01:54:40,230 --> 01:54:42,660
really got just warm receptions
at best

1917
01:54:42,990 --> 01:54:47,880
to bedico. You've covered CPAC
for almost two decades. And I

1918
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,640
wonder what dishes confab pill
drew about the state of the

1919
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,830
conservative movement in America
right now.

1920
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,140
Yeah, you know, it's really
fractured. You know, CPAC is

1921
01:54:55,140 --> 01:54:58,230
usually you know, an event that
tells you where the movement is

1922
01:54:58,230 --> 01:55:01,170
headed, and it seems more like
it's still something more like

1923
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:04,920
Tepeyac a Trump Political Action
Conference because it really

1924
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,070
just highlighted that even Haley
was sort of sandwiched between

1925
01:55:08,190 --> 01:55:11,970
two Trump's you know, Donald
Trump Jr. went before her Lera

1926
01:55:11,970 --> 01:55:15,510
Trump perform President Trump's
daughter in law went afterward.

1927
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,420
So you know, the bigger news
here this weekend almost was

1928
01:55:18,420 --> 01:55:20,970
that the people who didn't show
up we're talking about Ron

1929
01:55:20,970 --> 01:55:23,850
DeSantis, the Florida Governor,
Tim Scott, the South Carolina

1930
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,820
Senator and Trump's former vice
president, Mike Pence, who all

1931
01:55:26,820 --> 01:55:30,300
opted to go to a donor retreat
in Florida hosted by the Club

1932
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:33,090
for Growth, which is an anti tax
group that's been involved in

1933
01:55:33,090 --> 01:55:36,120
Republican politics for a long
time. And they're saying that

1934
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:39,510
they want to really support
somebody other than Trump. And

1935
01:55:39,510 --> 01:55:43,020
these candidates really need the
kind of money that comes along

1936
01:55:43,170 --> 01:55:46,380
with that. But because Trump has
such a stronghold on the party

1937
01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:49,890
infrastructure, in a potentially
crowded field, he still looks

1938
01:55:49,890 --> 01:55:50,700
like the man to beat.

1939
01:55:52,140 --> 01:55:56,820
Adam Curry: You know what's
missing from these reports? A

1940
01:55:56,820 --> 01:55:58,710
single sound bite from Trump.

1941
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,550
John C Dvorak: They did this
report before Trump spoke, he

1942
01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:06,900
spoke at the very end. And the
report that you played did have

1943
01:56:06,900 --> 01:56:09,210
the sound bites from Trump.
Yeah, but not this

1944
01:56:09,210 --> 01:56:09,990
Adam Curry: sound bite.

1945
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,200
Unknown: Before I even arrived
at the Oval Office, I will have

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01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:17,490
the disastrous war between
Russia and Ukraine settled, it

1947
01:56:17,490 --> 01:56:25,500
will be settled quickly. I will
get the problem solved. And I

1948
01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:29,550
will get it solved in rapid
order. And it will take me no

1949
01:56:29,550 --> 01:56:32,370
longer than one day I know
exactly what to say to each

1950
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:36,240
other. I got along with very
well as I got along very well

1951
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:38,730
with Putin, even though I'm the
one that ended his pipeline.

1952
01:56:38,730 --> 01:56:41,190
Remember, they said Trump is
giving a lot to Russia. Really.

1953
01:56:41,460 --> 01:56:43,830
Putin actually said to me if
you're my friend, and he'd like

1954
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:45,120
to see you as my enemy.

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01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:48,330
Adam Curry: Now, what's
interesting there? Is he slipped

1956
01:56:48,330 --> 01:56:53,640
in the I was the one that ended
the pipeline. Cut about that?

1957
01:56:56,430 --> 01:56:58,200
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
that means. It was talking about

1958
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,020
Nord Stream. Yeah. And that's
where obviously,

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01:57:01,710 --> 01:57:04,680
Adam Curry: I'm the one that
ended the pipeline. Okay. And I

1960
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:08,340
can I can means I can fix it
before I come into the Oval

1961
01:57:08,340 --> 01:57:13,350
Office. Is that before you're
elected, okay. Do it tomorrow. I

1962
01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:17,880
mean, I think that if he, how
about this for a super Gambit.

1963
01:57:18,300 --> 01:57:22,020
He goes on a press tour, Sanjay
with Putin. And Putin said,

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01:57:22,020 --> 01:57:24,630
Yeah, you know what, I talked to
Don and yeah, we're gonna we're

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01:57:24,630 --> 01:57:28,530
gonna stop this thing now. Would
that make Trump popular?

1966
01:57:30,270 --> 01:57:35,370
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But with
Trump, if Trump could like, the

1967
01:57:35,370 --> 01:57:38,460
promises, the Logan Act are one
of these things where you can't

1968
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:42,750
do foreign diplomacy if you're a
citizen, even though everybody

1969
01:57:42,750 --> 01:57:43,920
does it. Yeah.

1970
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:46,650
Adam Curry: Can you do it as a
former president?

1971
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,070
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it
all. They all done it.

1972
01:57:50,580 --> 01:57:53,310
Adam Curry: I'm Trump. I'm
putting the dawn in the Donbass

1973
01:57:53,310 --> 01:58:00,450
everybody. Just see it. There is
one surprise entrant coming for

1974
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:05,160
in the 2024 election,
supposedly, that I'm excited

1975
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:06,000
about this guy.

1976
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,820
Unknown: It's been a long time
since the Kennedy name was

1977
01:58:08,820 --> 01:58:12,060
associated with a long shot
outside her presidential

1978
01:58:12,060 --> 01:58:16,230
campaign. But those days could
be making a comeback. On Friday,

1979
01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:20,280
Robert Kennedy Jr. Speaking at
St. Anselm College, was asked if

1980
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:23,790
he's considering a run for the
White House in 2024.

1981
01:58:23,850 --> 01:58:25,110
I'm thinking about it.

1982
01:58:32,730 --> 01:58:35,370
Adam Curry: Passed the biggest
hurdle which is at my wife has

1983
01:58:35,370 --> 01:58:39,390
green lighted. How about that?

1984
01:58:39,780 --> 01:58:40,800
John C Dvorak: I'd vote for him.

1985
01:58:40,830 --> 01:58:44,730
Adam Curry: I'd vote for him to
I can't see. I'm sure he would

1986
01:58:44,730 --> 01:58:46,860
run Democrat, right. Yeah.

1987
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:50,310
John C Dvorak: But I'm an
independent. I have done non

1988
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:51,750
affiliated vote for anybody.

1989
01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:54,420
Adam Curry: I am a politically
homeless. I don't have to vote

1990
01:58:54,420 --> 01:58:55,320
for anybody either.

1991
01:58:55,440 --> 01:59:00,120
John C Dvorak: But I liked I
liked him. I didn't I mean,

1992
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:03,030
they'd ruin him in some way or
shoot him as hard to say what

1993
01:59:03,030 --> 01:59:03,990
they do. The family

1994
01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:06,540
Adam Curry: does have a bad
experience with running for

1995
01:59:06,540 --> 01:59:09,360
office and being it's just so

1996
01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:13,440
John C Dvorak: it's really dark
divorce that many way back to

1997
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:17,910
Trump. I listened to his speech,
which was long. Yeah. And he had

1998
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:20,640
a lot in he also won the straw
poll, which I thought was

1999
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,090
interesting, because as the last
time, you know, the thing that

2000
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:30,300
ran Ron Paul used to always win
in the old days. And right, I

2001
01:59:30,300 --> 01:59:32,850
thought it was pretty good. We'd
have some new stuff here, this

2002
01:59:32,850 --> 01:59:37,590
new bid about get a new bid. He
does an April Fool's bid. He

2003
01:59:37,590 --> 01:59:41,280
goes on and starts with it's an
April Fool's joke. And he cites

2004
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:47,130
all of blunders and follow ups
though. It was a it was it. It

2005
01:59:47,130 --> 01:59:49,710
needed a little work because it
was the first time I've heard

2006
01:59:49,710 --> 01:59:56,250
this. But it was it was staged.
It was it was it was okay. His

2007
01:59:56,340 --> 01:59:59,670
points are he really hits home
with everything that a lot of

2008
01:59:59,670 --> 02:00:03,210
these guys just can't seem to
come to grips with some of the

2009
02:00:03,210 --> 02:00:07,050
issues. He says we got to fix.
But he's at the same time. We've

2010
02:00:07,050 --> 02:00:11,820
already seen him. He's kind of
full of crap. I've not been a

2011
02:00:11,820 --> 02:00:18,420
fan since he refused to. to
pardon. Snowden and Assange in

2012
02:00:18,420 --> 02:00:22,860
particular. Yeah. There is no
reason for that. He should have

2013
02:00:22,860 --> 02:00:26,280
done it. And unless he had a gun
to his head, when if he's got a

2014
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:28,530
gun to his head in hell, we can
just vote anybody in there

2015
02:00:28,530 --> 02:00:30,420
because they'll have a gun to
their head. Yeah.

2016
02:00:32,490 --> 02:00:38,160
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it
should be fun. I mean, we'll,

2017
02:00:38,460 --> 02:00:41,340
we'll probably make it with the
show through the 2024. Like, I

2018
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:43,560
don't know if we can do it
again. That'll be the fourth

2019
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:45,420
election. You and I have been
through together.

2020
02:00:46,050 --> 02:00:48,900
John C Dvorak: 123. Yeah. Looks
like we should probably call it

2021
02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:49,770
quits at four.

2022
02:00:51,060 --> 02:00:53,850
Adam Curry: I mean, goodness
gracious. Goodness, gracious. We

2023
02:00:53,850 --> 02:00:54,030
didn't

2024
02:00:54,030 --> 02:00:55,650
John C Dvorak: really get to egg
bookselling first.

2025
02:00:56,580 --> 02:00:58,620
Adam Curry: And don't have a
piece of that action man. I

2026
02:00:58,620 --> 02:01:03,150
gotta get I gotta get an exit
strategy to get I'm going to be

2027
02:01:03,150 --> 02:01:04,290
the anti I already got

2028
02:01:04,290 --> 02:01:06,570
John C Dvorak: I've already got
the value for value book. We're

2029
02:01:06,570 --> 02:01:08,580
going to do the same thing. You
get a

2030
02:01:08,580 --> 02:01:12,480
Adam Curry: piece of that. Yeah.
Now you've seen the numbers.

2031
02:01:12,510 --> 02:01:16,080
John C Dvorak: No, we also have
the the primer, they have no

2032
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:20,430
agenda ABCs or whatever it is.
That book which had been

2033
02:01:20,430 --> 02:01:21,870
stalling on forever.

2034
02:01:21,900 --> 02:01:23,880
Adam Curry: I think we need to
do consultancy, we need to do

2035
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:25,200
consultancy that knowledge.

2036
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:27,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we actually
could if we could get some

2037
02:01:27,420 --> 02:01:31,080
business. Can we get good?
That's the problem.

2038
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:36,480
Adam Curry: Or with all our
knowledge, you know, I could run

2039
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:41,730
in in 2028, and you could be my
political adviser.

2040
02:01:41,969 --> 02:01:44,159
John C Dvorak: Take you should
do a text to run for Texas

2041
02:01:44,159 --> 02:01:45,059
governor. Oh.

2042
02:01:47,010 --> 02:01:51,540
Adam Curry: That would be a fun
gig. That would be cool. Yeah.

2043
02:01:51,570 --> 02:01:51,810
When

2044
02:01:52,260 --> 02:01:53,730
John C Dvorak: you move back to
Austin, but you get into

2045
02:01:53,730 --> 02:01:54,690
governor's mansion. I'm

2046
02:01:54,690 --> 02:01:56,460
Adam Curry: not gonna move back
to one of the governor's

2047
02:01:56,460 --> 02:01:57,360
mansion. Yeah, that's all

2048
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:59,910
John C Dvorak: right. Yes, gets
cordoned off

2049
02:01:59,940 --> 02:02:04,080
Adam Curry: to just wear big
sexy cowboy hats all day. Yeah,

2050
02:02:04,110 --> 02:02:05,310
first lady of Texas.

2051
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,650
John C Dvorak: And then you
shoot a gun in the air. That's

2052
02:02:07,650 --> 02:02:12,450
the one thing I'm always
expecting the governor of Texas

2053
02:02:12,450 --> 02:02:15,780
to do once in a while. Well
yeah, and then shoot a gun in

2054
02:02:15,780 --> 02:02:16,200
the air.

2055
02:02:16,260 --> 02:02:19,050
Adam Curry: I think Texas
governor is a powerful position

2056
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:22,980
that could be a lot of fun.
Yeah, well maybe that then maybe

2057
02:02:23,130 --> 02:02:25,500
we'll have to see you when I
when Abbott is out didn't we

2058
02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:28,830
just now he has another word
five years how many more years

2059
02:02:28,830 --> 02:02:29,460
do you get? No

2060
02:02:29,460 --> 02:02:31,560
John C Dvorak: I think it's for
four to crack I don't think it's

2061
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:32,040
six.

2062
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:33,210
Adam Curry: I hope not.

2063
02:02:34,890 --> 02:02:35,700
John C Dvorak: US Senate

2064
02:02:36,450 --> 02:02:38,670
Adam Curry: and we're that as we
discuss our exit strategy I'd

2065
02:02:38,670 --> 02:02:40,950
like to say in the morning to
you the man who put the sea in

2066
02:02:40,950 --> 02:02:43,950
the sea pack con five ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to

2067
02:02:43,950 --> 02:02:48,720
my friend on the other end. Mr.
John C. Lieutenant Governor of

2068
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:49,200
Texas.

2069
02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:52,110
John C Dvorak: Good morning, Mr.
And Mrs. Ship seat boots with

2070
02:02:52,110 --> 02:02:55,320
the feet the air subs in the
water and all the names

2071
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:57,540
Adam Curry: in the mornings at
the trolls and the troll room.

2072
02:02:57,540 --> 02:03:01,320
How you doing? Good to see y'all
there. They have actually handed

2073
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:03,510
me a couple of one liners. I
appreciate it. Good job. They're

2074
02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:06,900
trolls. The trolls are in the
troll room and you can join it

2075
02:03:06,930 --> 02:03:11,580
surprise troll room.io right
there. You can hop in the chat

2076
02:03:11,580 --> 02:03:15,060
you can listen to the stream
live. We recommend getting one

2077
02:03:15,060 --> 02:03:19,380
of the modern podcast apps at
podcast apps.com pod verse,

2078
02:03:19,650 --> 02:03:22,590
podcast addict those are the
ones that will give you an alert

2079
02:03:23,190 --> 02:03:25,560
when the bat signal was sent
when we start the show actually

2080
02:03:25,650 --> 02:03:28,530
with the pre stream where you
can hear all kinds of stuff

2081
02:03:28,530 --> 02:03:32,070
going on before we hit record.
And you can get started again

2082
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:36,510
that podcast apps.com And let's
see how many trolls are joining

2083
02:03:36,510 --> 02:03:43,740
us today. Let me get the joke
out second, the counting machine

2084
02:03:43,740 --> 02:03:50,610
is counting 2199 So just shy of
2200 How do we write that on the

2085
02:03:51,090 --> 02:03:54,120
right okay awesome. All right,
well, you're about right today

2086
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:58,770
trolls then if you don't want to
do anything live or if you are

2087
02:03:58,770 --> 02:04:02,250
hindered you can always check
out the conversations over there

2088
02:04:02,250 --> 02:04:06,090
at no agenda social.com thank
you to Aaron Burr who is still

2089
02:04:06,090 --> 02:04:12,300
running the show yet like he
runs out of his basement it was

2090
02:04:12,300 --> 02:04:16,500
just highly appreciate it it's a
it's a full time gig babying a

2091
02:04:16,530 --> 02:04:21,900
huge Mastodon instance like ours
power go out the UPS has ran

2092
02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:25,410
down and and he had to wait
until it came back up there was

2093
02:04:25,410 --> 02:04:29,730
just no other way to do it. He
keeps refusing value for value

2094
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,240
everyone keeps saying hey you
know if we can solve some things

2095
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:36,180
with throw some money at it but
he refuses that and he just he's

2096
02:04:36,180 --> 02:04:39,900
a good guy. He's a great guy.
That is that has a tremendous

2097
02:04:39,930 --> 02:04:43,890
amount of value he is providing
back to I personally offered

2098
02:04:43,890 --> 02:04:49,140
value to him in many ways and he
just not to and if I run into

2099
02:04:49,140 --> 02:04:53,700
trouble let you know. So so far
so good. We also get tremendous

2100
02:04:53,700 --> 02:04:57,660
value from our artists. Every
single show while we're doing

2101
02:04:57,660 --> 02:05:00,330
the show live their artists
listening and you can Follow

2102
02:05:00,330 --> 02:05:03,210
that at no agenda art
generator.com You can refresh it

2103
02:05:03,210 --> 02:05:06,810
in real time. The artists are
creating artwork for a topic or

2104
02:05:06,810 --> 02:05:09,930
something that think is, is
appropriate that relates to what

2105
02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:13,680
we discussed in the episode. And
it also is a great way for the

2106
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:16,680
show to get attention when we
change his artwork. People are

2107
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,800
always like, wow, what is this?
Oh, it's no agenda of course.

2108
02:05:20,010 --> 02:05:24,270
And Dame Kenny BAM had just a
powerful pop of a piece of art

2109
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:29,610
for episode 1534. We titled that
the CIT which is a new sitcom

2110
02:05:29,610 --> 02:05:35,850
coming this season on NBC, the
CIT this was the the Zap it had

2111
02:05:35,850 --> 02:05:40,170
a brain silhouette of a head and
a zap which is related to the

2112
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,560
age Intel agencies zapping each
other with the Havana syndrome

2113
02:05:43,650 --> 02:05:50,610
weapon. It was without a doubt
the the, the font that she used

2114
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:51,450
the

2115
02:05:51,930 --> 02:05:54,300
John C Dvorak: know is a very
pretty piece and it had a nice

2116
02:05:54,300 --> 02:06:00,180
kind of interesting shading. And
it was simple and complicated.

2117
02:06:00,180 --> 02:06:04,620
It was just a it was a nice
piece. It was the best. I mean,

2118
02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:07,170
I use the piece next to it for
the newsletter because I just

2119
02:06:07,170 --> 02:06:08,610
thought was a good piece of art,
but

2120
02:06:08,910 --> 02:06:12,990
Adam Curry: oh the that was the
yelling and yelling, yelling

2121
02:06:12,990 --> 02:06:16,680
this base. Do you know what that
is? Is? It's a throwback to

2122
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:21,690
invasion of Mars. Invasion From
Mars movie which you hate.

2123
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,030
John C Dvorak: Oh, that'd be a
crummy movie. Yeah,

2124
02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:25,410
Adam Curry: I love that movie.

2125
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:26,820
John C Dvorak: I was terrible.

2126
02:06:26,850 --> 02:06:28,260
Adam Curry: I love them. Why
would you?

2127
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:31,020
John C Dvorak: Like I think it
ruined the career of Tim Burton.

2128
02:06:31,050 --> 02:06:31,980
That one movie

2129
02:06:32,340 --> 02:06:34,590
Adam Curry: didn't quite okay
after that didn't.

2130
02:06:35,580 --> 02:06:38,580
John C Dvorak: Well, he was on
the upswing as being a superstar

2131
02:06:38,610 --> 02:06:42,030
art artsy fartsy director that
was gonna always produce

2132
02:06:42,330 --> 02:06:48,030
fascinating material after
Batman. And then he did that

2133
02:06:48,030 --> 02:06:49,830
Mars movie and that was the end
of it.

2134
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:55,290
Adam Curry: I'm sorry to hear
that. Okay, well, we love the we

2135
02:06:55,290 --> 02:06:57,930
love the art from Dame Kenny.
Ben, what else were we looking

2136
02:06:57,930 --> 02:07:01,740
at? There was a lot of Scott
Adams jokes now.

2137
02:07:04,650 --> 02:07:07,230
John C Dvorak: We'd like to
Winnie the Pooh won over the I

2138
02:07:07,230 --> 02:07:08,070
thought it was okay.

2139
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:09,000
Adam Curry: I mean, it's not
Yeah,

2140
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:12,330
John C Dvorak: Roger Roundtree
really liked that piece. Oh, he

2141
02:07:12,330 --> 02:07:16,350
did? Yeah. If you look at the
Macedon arms instance, a nice

2142
02:07:16,350 --> 02:07:19,110
mess. And a lot of these artists
come on there and they predict

2143
02:07:19,140 --> 02:07:23,370
what we're going to pick. Yeah.
Yeah. Which is always never get

2144
02:07:23,370 --> 02:07:25,200
it right. By the way. It's
weird.

2145
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:30,420
Adam Curry: It's a mistake.
There really is. Some tick tock

2146
02:07:30,420 --> 02:07:36,900
stuff in there. Some stylized
pieces amygdala therapy, cute

2147
02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:41,850
cute. But just entertainment as
an enlightenment. Whoa, does

2148
02:07:41,850 --> 02:07:44,670
that the mic falling out of the
cradle? Was that you falling

2149
02:07:44,670 --> 02:07:46,350
over happened you just fall
down?

2150
02:07:47,370 --> 02:07:49,380
John C Dvorak: No the image of
the scarlet hit the deck.

2151
02:07:49,559 --> 02:07:52,859
Adam Curry: Oh, well it's still
working. Hey nail that shit

2152
02:07:52,859 --> 02:07:58,799
down. Zippy Be quiet what else
oh no that was it. Those are the

2153
02:07:58,799 --> 02:08:04,889
ones that that was the end na
now that again be careful with a

2154
02:08:04,889 --> 02:08:08,669
lot of detail a lot of small
little things you really just

2155
02:08:08,669 --> 02:08:12,059
can't see it when when it's at
you know two years

2156
02:08:12,060 --> 02:08:17,010
John C Dvorak: by plane about
one specifically okay. I like it

2157
02:08:17,010 --> 02:08:19,290
came from China I thought was
cute.

2158
02:08:20,700 --> 02:08:22,710
Adam Curry: It was a lot of
stuff in there but it was so

2159
02:08:22,710 --> 02:08:25,500
hard to see you can't even see
the little face they just one of

2160
02:08:25,500 --> 02:08:28,260
your complaint. That would be
the complaint, the complaint.

2161
02:08:28,590 --> 02:08:32,730
There was another one that I
thought you bitched about I

2162
02:08:32,730 --> 02:08:37,050
never bitched about anything I
discussed things with enormous

2163
02:08:37,050 --> 02:08:41,520
respect there was probably the
honey the Winnie the Pooh Bear

2164
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:45,510
that was also too complicated
just too much too much too

2165
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:47,400
small. It doesn't matter

2166
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:49,620
John C Dvorak: like the you know
there was a Winnie the Pooh Bear

2167
02:08:49,620 --> 02:08:56,400
I think the bite hand and break
pot light light blue against a

2168
02:08:56,400 --> 02:09:02,400
kind of a cream background was
not consciously you get to be

2169
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,260
able to consider contrast

2170
02:09:04,290 --> 02:09:08,580
Adam Curry: yes contrast is key.
With this type of art it's a

2171
02:09:08,580 --> 02:09:13,080
very art can look great on the
wall can great look great on a

2172
02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:16,830
on a hoodie by the way I'm
wearing my no agenda appetite

2173
02:09:16,830 --> 02:09:20,280
for deconstruction hoodie I love
this thing. I know you don't

2174
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:25,620
like the skulls that of course
are us I love this this hoodie

2175
02:09:25,950 --> 02:09:30,420
did is so cool. You know people
people look as man Guns and

2176
02:09:30,420 --> 02:09:37,260
Roses I said look again look
again. Wow, is that you? That's

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me baby gods. Oh cool. Who did
that to superstars? superstars?

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No agenda shop.com. No
affiliation with no agenda show.

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John C Dvorak: And actually who
did that? Artists? That's

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02:09:48,330 --> 02:09:48,990
Adam Curry: a good question.

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02:09:50,010 --> 02:09:52,230
John C Dvorak: I forget to be
able to you should know I

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02:09:52,230 --> 02:09:52,710
shouldn't know.

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02:09:52,710 --> 02:09:54,870
Adam Curry: I feel bad. It
shouldn't be signed somewhere.

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Someone in the truck

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02:09:56,940 --> 02:09:57,990
John C Dvorak: already signs
nothing,

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02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:00,840
Adam Curry: or anything for that
matter. Are someone in the troll

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02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:04,050
room? Oh no. It's a pullover
hoodie Correct? No agenda

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02:10:04,050 --> 02:10:09,000
shop.com It is truly one of my
favorite. It's even more it

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02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:14,340
rises above my Salem College
Alma Mater hoodie. I went to

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02:10:14,340 --> 02:10:18,240
school for exactly three months.
So that's a big piece of value

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02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:22,320
we got from from David Kenny
man, really appreciate that. You

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02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:25,500
can contribute your time, talent
or treasure and we love thanking

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02:10:25,500 --> 02:10:28,650
our executive and Associate
Executive producers. Oh, Mike

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02:10:28,650 --> 02:10:30,210
Riley it was a mike Riley piece.

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02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:32,490
John C Dvorak: It was Yeah.

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02:10:32,580 --> 02:10:37,620
Adam Curry: And you hated it. I
don't like skulls that's exactly

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02:10:37,620 --> 02:10:38,880
what you said. Everyone

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02:10:40,140 --> 02:10:42,750
John C Dvorak: looks like a
Grateful Dead all those that and

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02:10:42,750 --> 02:10:47,730
they stole it from the Grateful
Dead to I'm considering Guns and

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02:10:47,730 --> 02:10:48,360
Roses.

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Adam Curry: So beta hopefully
got on Slack but Darth? Yeah.

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02:10:53,940 --> 02:10:57,720
Which means it's better to steal
something well then make

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02:10:57,720 --> 02:11:01,140
something poorly. It loses
something in the translation.

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02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:04,290
Time to thank our executive
producers and Associate

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02:11:04,290 --> 02:11:07,740
Executive Producers people came
in well today and we appreciate

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02:11:07,740 --> 02:11:10,140
that you are do you have the
note from synonymous of Dogpatch

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02:11:10,140 --> 02:11:16,050
and Loris LeBeau via because I
do and serranos Dogpatch. Truly

2208
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:20,850
an anonymous, anonymous, we have
no idea who he is. Every single

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02:11:20,850 --> 02:11:24,120
month he donates to the show. He
always has a message which is

2210
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:28,170
sincere and heartfelt. He sends
us in and while may make a lot

2211
02:11:28,170 --> 02:11:29,160
of noise he sends

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02:11:29,370 --> 02:11:31,770
John C Dvorak: trying to get
this this pop filter away from

2213
02:11:31,770 --> 02:11:35,250
the mic. Okay, yeah, these
things are annoying.

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02:11:35,310 --> 02:11:42,420
Adam Curry: Yes, I would agree.
And today, it's always an amount

2215
02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:45,900
which we do not comprehend.
We're not sure how he comes up

2216
02:11:45,900 --> 02:11:52,860
with these amounts. And today it
is $2,151 in complete cash

2217
02:11:52,860 --> 02:11:57,420
donation to the best podcast in
the universe. Thank you so much,

2218
02:11:57,420 --> 02:11:59,550
sir. honor Mr. Dogpatch. What is
his note?

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02:12:00,450 --> 02:12:03,930
John C Dvorak: He says your work
plus all the producers offering

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02:12:03,930 --> 02:12:08,280
insight and perspective, the
openness and willingness of John

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02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:11,820
and Adam to acknowledge errors
as we did earlier in today's

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02:12:11,820 --> 02:12:12,030
show,

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02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:16,980
Adam Curry: although we burned
the guy, but yeah, we we

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02:12:16,980 --> 02:12:17,370
acknowledged,

2225
02:12:17,820 --> 02:12:21,330
John C Dvorak: acknowledged and
differences of opinion while

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02:12:21,330 --> 02:12:25,200
continuing their outstanding
collaboration and choosing to

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02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:28,800
rely on their individual
capacity to attract willing

2228
02:12:28,860 --> 02:12:34,680
willing contributors for 15
years remains a positive

2229
02:12:34,680 --> 02:12:39,000
influence for me. And obviously
there are many producers that

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02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:46,710
make this effort work. Thank you
both are thank you to both of

2231
02:12:46,710 --> 02:12:50,850
you. And to all the producers
that contribute so much to this

2232
02:12:50,850 --> 02:12:54,330
show. No jingles no karma. And
he makes a point of saying this

2233
02:12:54,330 --> 02:12:58,950
is for February. All right.
2021 51

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02:12:59,550 --> 02:13:01,830
Adam Curry: Serrana Miss thank
you so much. You know when I

2235
02:13:01,830 --> 02:13:04,230
hear him talk like that I'm
like, Yeah, we should we should

2236
02:13:04,230 --> 02:13:08,490
retire and write that value for
value book. If once people

2237
02:13:08,490 --> 02:13:12,570
understand what you can actually
do, if you have some patience

2238
02:13:12,570 --> 02:13:16,110
and are willing to follow the
guidelines, you don't need

2239
02:13:16,110 --> 02:13:20,970
advertising in your life. It's
really appreciate it. I love

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02:13:20,970 --> 02:13:26,190
that. Now check this out. Dred
Scott, who already contributes

2241
02:13:26,190 --> 02:13:29,430
so much to the show by doing all
of our chapter work for every

2242
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:32,940
single podcast which means he
listens to every single show

2243
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:36,060
sets markers finds images,
usually from no agenda art

2244
02:13:36,060 --> 02:13:41,310
generator.com And then puts it
into into the feed so you can

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02:13:41,310 --> 02:13:44,460
enjoy that in one of those brand
new podcast apps podcast

2246
02:13:44,460 --> 02:13:48,930
apps.com. He comes in with a
show number donation which I

2247
02:13:48,930 --> 02:13:51,030
have not seen the show number
donation I think in quite a

2248
02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:57,360
while because we're up there
$1,535 He's from Oceanside,

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02:13:57,360 --> 02:14:00,690
California and says hello this
is from Dred Scott Duke of the

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02:14:00,690 --> 02:14:04,350
Southern California megaregion
No jingles no karma. It's a

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02:14:04,350 --> 02:14:07,020
little bit longer than normal,
but it's a show number donation.

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02:14:07,020 --> 02:14:09,930
I'm happy to read it. Answering
the call from JC D about

2253
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:12,930
newsletter response please
accept my humbly submitted show

2254
02:14:12,930 --> 02:14:17,970
number donation of 1535. Yes, we
accept. Yesterday Saturday March

2255
02:14:17,970 --> 02:14:21,510
4 was my birthday. And mark the
six years since my first

2256
02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:25,200
donation after having been juice
pouch, a juice pouch for several

2257
02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:29,310
years. Yes, that's his his
personal word for douchebag when

2258
02:14:29,310 --> 02:14:31,710
it became a night of the no
gender roundtable and I asked to

2259
02:14:31,710 --> 02:14:35,190
be known as Sir Ben autonomous
of the 1.5 playback,

2260
02:14:35,370 --> 02:14:38,730
approximately one year later, I
took the Adam Curry One times

2261
02:14:38,730 --> 02:14:43,470
playback challenge. I slowed
another life saved or created. I

2262
02:14:43,470 --> 02:14:46,980
slowed all podcast down and it
made a huge difference in my

2263
02:14:46,980 --> 02:14:52,050
mental processing. Check this
out. I have severe ADHD and I

2264
02:14:52,050 --> 02:14:56,070
had erroneously thought that 1.5
speed was helping me focus

2265
02:14:56,070 --> 02:15:00,750
better turned out that forcing
me to slow down allows me to get

2266
02:15:00,750 --> 02:15:04,860
better control of my ADHD which
by the way, almost everybody in

2267
02:15:04,860 --> 02:15:08,910
the universe has these days.
Thank you crackpot and buzzkill

2268
02:15:08,910 --> 02:15:13,830
for the 1.0 recommendation as it
has made a difference to all

2269
02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:18,990
those pods speeders out there,
give it a shot, try a 21 day 1.0

2270
02:15:18,990 --> 02:15:24,540
Time to challenge this is Scott,
man, thank you. I would like to

2271
02:15:24,540 --> 02:15:29,910
call up my next door neighbor,
the beer man as a juice pouch. I

2272
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:32,580
need a juice pouch jingle. I hit
him in the mouth about two years

2273
02:15:32,580 --> 02:15:36,330
ago and he has yet to donate.
Thank you, ACD and JCD for the

2274
02:15:36,330 --> 02:15:39,360
best dang comedy and media
deconstruction podcast in the

2275
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:42,720
universe. Thanks for tolerating
my lengthy donation note Dred

2276
02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:45,690
Scott, Duke of the Southern
California megaregion. No, I'm

2277
02:15:45,690 --> 02:15:48,390
very happy to read that. Thank
you for taking the challenge.

2278
02:15:48,390 --> 02:15:51,420
And we are happy that we have
another life saved recreated.

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02:15:51,450 --> 02:15:54,360
Thank you. Dr. Yeah.

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02:15:54,450 --> 02:15:58,230
John C Dvorak: Nice. Yeah. I
should mention the newsletter. I

2281
02:15:58,230 --> 02:16:02,070
think it's did came on March 1.
This is when because the

2282
02:16:02,070 --> 02:16:04,800
newsletter got. It was weird.
That was very weird. What

2283
02:16:04,800 --> 02:16:09,630
happened there? So I sent out
another note in plain text. And

2284
02:16:09,630 --> 02:16:15,000
I think this is every March 1
and adapted to it. It happens

2285
02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:19,770
pretty much every quarter. And I
think is Google changing their

2286
02:16:19,770 --> 02:16:21,990
algos for version for sorting?

2287
02:16:22,050 --> 02:16:25,950
Adam Curry: Oh, I know exactly
why. Remember the accusation? Is

2288
02:16:25,950 --> 02:16:28,770
Google changes the algorithm
whenever it's time for the

2289
02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:31,890
Republicans to send out
newsletters and CPAC would have

2290
02:16:31,890 --> 02:16:35,550
been the reason. In fact, if you
had CPAC in the newsletter,

2291
02:16:35,550 --> 02:16:41,580
which you might have, but they
always shadow ban, and start to

2292
02:16:41,580 --> 02:16:47,130
bring down Republican stuff
around a Republican event. How

2293
02:16:47,130 --> 02:16:47,610
about that?

2294
02:16:48,390 --> 02:16:51,330
John C Dvorak: I like it because
I did get more than one response

2295
02:16:51,330 --> 02:16:53,430
from somebody saying I didn't
get the newsletter I looked all

2296
02:16:53,430 --> 02:16:57,540
over. I mean, so now there was
it wasn't some people got

2297
02:16:57,540 --> 02:17:01,470
blocked completely. And they did
have a they did have a Google

2298
02:17:01,470 --> 02:17:04,620
account. And I do have a note
for somebody I want to read

2299
02:17:04,620 --> 02:17:05,850
though. And this is kind of
cute.

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02:17:05,850 --> 02:17:08,400
Adam Curry: And I'd like to I'd
like to point out that people

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02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:11,610
who don't listen to the donation
segment are losing out they lose

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02:17:11,610 --> 02:17:14,820
out on life saving tips, and SEO
tips.

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02:17:16,590 --> 02:17:21,420
John C Dvorak: SEO tips,
whatever. producer Laura sent

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02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:25,470
his cute note in, she says I was
planning on giving this week and

2305
02:17:25,470 --> 02:17:28,410
my debit card was hacked. So I
can't send my small donation

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02:17:28,410 --> 02:17:32,040
through PayPal. I'm getting a
new card by next Friday. So I

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02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:35,940
should be able to catch up then.
If you don't send these emails

2308
02:17:35,940 --> 02:17:40,320
about donations, I would think
about sending I wouldn't think

2309
02:17:40,320 --> 02:17:44,460
about sending money your way.
This is something to note for

2310
02:17:44,460 --> 02:17:45,750
people out there doing podcast
of

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02:17:45,750 --> 02:17:48,090
Adam Curry: our book another
teaser from the value for value

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02:17:48,090 --> 02:17:49,710
book coming in 2027

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02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:53,010
John C Dvorak: If you don't send
these emails about donations, I

2314
02:17:53,010 --> 02:17:56,400
wouldn't think about sending
money your way I see it as a

2315
02:17:56,400 --> 02:18:00,990
reminder that I need and I don't
know if I'm just recalling

2316
02:18:00,990 --> 02:18:04,680
clearly but when I clicked on
the link in this email, and it

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02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:08,040
took me to the newsletter page
it seems I had a portion of the

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02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:13,470
text missing anyway I don't know
what that was at some other

2319
02:18:13,470 --> 02:18:17,610
issue. But wishes I said this
from the beginning that these

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02:18:17,610 --> 02:18:20,850
newsletters are just people
aren't they don't spend their

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02:18:20,850 --> 02:18:25,470
life thinking about the no
agenda show all day. I do well

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02:18:25,470 --> 02:18:26,250
besides you.

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02:18:27,690 --> 02:18:28,800
Adam Curry: You don't even do
that.

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02:18:30,809 --> 02:18:34,199
John C Dvorak: Katy Texas Katy
in Texas sorry. Or is it Katy

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02:18:34,199 --> 02:18:39,389
Texas? No, Katy, Texas. This is
I did what you did last time.

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02:18:40,829 --> 02:18:47,819
Dame Becky There you go. In Katy
Texas. I was waiting. 721 51 I

2327
02:18:47,819 --> 02:18:51,869
had to pick up the keyboard.
switcher row. Please. Credit 720

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02:18:51,899 --> 02:18:57,779
dot 51. To Mike Kenny. Oh, and
when I saw this name, I would

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02:18:57,779 --> 02:19:00,089
never pronounce it Kenny it
would be chinny

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02:19:00,150 --> 02:19:02,850
Adam Curry: that same but she
put a handy pronunciation guide

2331
02:19:02,850 --> 02:19:03,960
right there. And the note

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02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:07,320
John C Dvorak: pronounced Kenny.
Unlike a lot of

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02:19:07,380 --> 02:19:09,450
Adam Curry: unlike a lot of
people who think it's hilarious

2334
02:19:09,450 --> 02:19:11,820
to put a name in there that we
know we're going to stumble and

2335
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:14,220
fumble over there just mean
those people.

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02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:18,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well.
They're mostly Dutch in

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02:19:18,420 --> 02:19:23,400
celebration of his 72nd trip
around the sun on March may to

2338
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:28,320
go with this donation he
achieves night status and will

2339
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:30,840
join me at the roundtable and
shall be known as Sir mic of the

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02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:36,180
great Katy Prairie. Katy, Texas.
That is He requests homemade

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02:19:36,360 --> 02:19:41,370
lemon shallow, which reminds me
and a rare ribeye no jingles

2342
02:19:41,370 --> 02:19:44,490
just lots of karma. Keep up the
good work. We love you guys.

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02:19:45,210 --> 02:19:49,080
Unknown: But reminder to our
garland. At least garland Lee.

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02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:51,600
John C Dvorak: She's up in the
garlands.

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02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:54,180
Adam Curry: I bet you they're
still listening. We used to get

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02:19:54,180 --> 02:19:58,950
salmon sent. And we never got
salmon. Yeah, I think she sent a

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02:19:58,950 --> 02:20:02,970
salmon once and lemon shallow
lemon shallow and shallow was so

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02:20:02,970 --> 02:20:05,040
good her lemon shallow. I hope
she's okay.

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02:20:06,120 --> 02:20:08,070
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard
from them at all.

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02:20:08,130 --> 02:20:13,410
Adam Curry: Congratulations.
Nice to be sir Mike and do you

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02:20:13,410 --> 02:20:17,700
watch Tik Tok more now that you
are in the 70s is my question

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02:20:17,700 --> 02:20:21,090
for you and some karma for you
sir I'll get smarter due to

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02:20:24,300 --> 02:20:30,210
karma Dame Taylor is in
Huntington West Virginia 633 dot

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02:20:30,210 --> 02:20:33,840
41 Cool numbers today. Please
accept this donation as book

2355
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:37,590
there we go a switcheroo for the
best man in the entire universe

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02:20:37,650 --> 02:20:43,710
and also smokin hot I might add.
I've been donating $33.33 for a

2357
02:20:43,710 --> 02:20:46,500
while now and this is the
remainder to bring him to

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02:20:46,500 --> 02:20:51,090
knighthood before we get married
next month I heard John's call

2359
02:20:51,090 --> 02:20:53,730
via the newsletter and I've been
meaning to send this to both of

2360
02:20:53,730 --> 02:20:56,700
you for a while as you have
blessed us with job karma and

2361
02:20:56,700 --> 02:21:00,960
we'd like to return the favor
Thank you. This man deserves the

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02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:03,990
world and that includes a
knighthood before we wed please

2363
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:06,960
Knight him data man what should
we say data man what do you

2364
02:21:06,960 --> 02:21:10,260
think data man or data man? What
do you think? Well

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02:21:10,260 --> 02:21:14,490
John C Dvorak: I think data man
like data man who's up man this

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02:21:14,490 --> 02:21:18,930
data data man I think is kind of
cool data man

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02:21:18,930 --> 02:21:22,110
Adam Curry: of the rock hard
greens okay? He will have

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02:21:22,110 --> 02:21:26,610
Lonestar beer and summary whoa
at the roundtable no idea what

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02:21:26,610 --> 02:21:31,050
that is but I think I pronounced
it right. To my love. Thank you

2370
02:21:31,050 --> 02:21:33,900
for making me laugh keeping me
safe and making me a better

2371
02:21:33,900 --> 02:21:37,800
person. I can't wait to marry
you soon. Thank you John. Adam,

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02:21:37,890 --> 02:21:43,500
you are truly the best Dame
Taylor thank you so much. So she

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02:21:43,500 --> 02:21:49,560
didn't actually give us his
name. Just yeah data man

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02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:51,690
John C Dvorak: I hate him daddy.
Oh you what his real name is

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02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:53,460
Yeah, so we'll just we'll

2376
02:21:53,460 --> 02:21:56,370
Adam Curry: just put it the
credit this to Sir data man of

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02:21:56,370 --> 02:22:00,120
the Hard Rock greens. No
problemo. It will do that for

2378
02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:01,770
you. Yeah, it's cool.

2379
02:22:02,460 --> 02:22:05,400
John C Dvorak: Sir Don Francis
is up next. And he's in

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02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:12,060
Chandler, Arizona. 333 Dots
these three. Gentlemen, I

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02:22:12,060 --> 02:22:16,290
believe this is it makes me a
Baronet. Thank you for doing the

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02:22:16,290 --> 02:22:22,590
work. Can I get a boogity in
honor of my smokin hot wife Dame

2383
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:30,510
Stephanie and some dog karma
love is lit Sir Don Francis the

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02:22:30,510 --> 02:22:32,010
Baron net of Chandler.

2385
02:22:48,330 --> 02:22:52,110
Adam Curry: You asked we played
sir deal saver or Silla Gil

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02:22:52,110 --> 02:22:56,070
saver. Springfield Missouri 333
dot 33 Love and that executive

2387
02:22:56,070 --> 02:23:00,060
producer forever credit donation
number as her deal saver here.

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02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:03,390
This 333 33 row of threes
donations to celebrate sort of

2389
02:23:03,390 --> 02:23:07,080
Bradley deal savers third
birthday on Monday March 6, he

2390
02:23:08,100 --> 02:23:10,950
he is starting preschool Monday
so we could use some karma for

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02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:16,110
him his teachers and classmates
but easier is your terror. Karma

2392
02:23:16,110 --> 02:23:19,620
for him his teachers and the
classmates. He's coming up to

2393
02:23:19,620 --> 02:23:22,290
you if you want to mention the
rest on the show, of course. Oh,

2394
02:23:22,290 --> 02:23:25,350
here we go. Bradley is nonverbal
autistic. He likes to listen to

2395
02:23:25,350 --> 02:23:28,230
the no agenda show with his dad
and laughs each time he hears

2396
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:31,770
the karma jingle. All right, so
this should be a great day.

2397
02:23:31,860 --> 02:23:34,260
Monday March 6 Starting
preschool you're gonna have a

2398
02:23:34,260 --> 02:23:38,970
great time. Sir Bradley deal
saver. And for you. Why don't

2399
02:23:38,970 --> 02:23:42,600
we? We're gonna give you a
double up karma. You can laugh

2400
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:50,520
twice as much you've got karma.
Have fun. Let us know how it

2401
02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:50,970
goes.

2402
02:23:52,050 --> 02:23:58,320
John C Dvorak: Ross Judaica in
Redonda. Australia. Sounds like

2403
02:23:58,320 --> 02:24:03,300
someplace in the outback. ITM
landed lads heard about the

2404
02:24:03,300 --> 02:24:06,330
donation challenges thought is
an opportune time to help out

2405
02:24:06,330 --> 02:24:11,130
after 12 months of listening.
keep on keepin on no karma. Just

2406
02:24:11,130 --> 02:24:17,640
a great show from the land down
under Ross, Utica, Utica, so

2407
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:21,870
that it doesn't count as Utica
into Lord dunga.

2408
02:24:22,470 --> 02:24:27,660
Adam Curry: Victoria. Eight oz.
Alright, thank you. Oh, these

2409
02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:32,730
are good for us Dukes in Camas,
Washington. 333 33. Gentlemen,

2410
02:24:32,730 --> 02:24:34,950
thank you for what you do. Well,
there are many aspects of the

2411
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:37,140
show that I enjoy. One of my
favorites is the attention to

2412
02:24:37,140 --> 02:24:40,200
language that you both practice.
Your ability to highlight things

2413
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,870
both said and unsaid, to
scrutinize loaded language and

2414
02:24:42,870 --> 02:24:45,870
to expose the verbal games
played by many are refreshing

2415
02:24:45,870 --> 02:24:49,920
and informative. In other words,
words are cool and stuff dudes.

2416
02:24:50,670 --> 02:24:53,940
This bladed donation is in
response to Episode 1527 in

2417
02:24:53,940 --> 02:24:57,660
which you both rose another
notch in my estimation, by

2418
02:24:57,660 --> 02:25:02,100
calling out Merriam Webster for
the high so that they are I do

2419
02:25:02,100 --> 02:25:05,310
believe they are the worst of
dictionary options Keep up the

2420
02:25:05,310 --> 02:25:09,720
great work for us Dukes, aka
faux Diddley. Got it? Thank you

2421
02:25:09,720 --> 02:25:10,470
very much.

2422
02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:13,410
John C Dvorak: That's
interesting. Beth Kellogg in

2423
02:25:13,410 --> 02:25:20,880
Sumter South Carolina. Please
deduce me? You You've been de

2424
02:25:20,880 --> 02:25:24,960
deuced Beth Kellogg It's been
too long she writes thanks for

2425
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:26,220
everything ITM.

2426
02:25:26,580 --> 02:25:28,590
Adam Curry: Oh, these are cool.
Now when people get really short

2427
02:25:28,590 --> 02:25:32,970
here I like this. A Nokia
Esperanza L. L Arriaga from

2428
02:25:32,970 --> 02:25:38,550
Ciudad de Mexico and Mexico
333 33 just landing got to note

2429
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:41,640
the weird newsletter failure
email and I'm here doing my part

2430
02:25:41,790 --> 02:25:45,300
to newsletters are the only
emails I read through and enjoy

2431
02:25:45,300 --> 02:25:50,340
John, please don't nuke them.
Will you okay? Yeah, please

2432
02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:51,930
don't people love them.

2433
02:25:52,860 --> 02:25:56,490
John C Dvorak: Baronet large
comes in. Just old Baron at

2434
02:25:56,490 --> 02:25:59,790
large and Bridgewater, New
Jersey. Thank you for all you

2435
02:25:59,790 --> 02:26:02,550
do. 333 Mr. Aaron at large

2436
02:26:02,550 --> 02:26:04,980
Adam Curry: people really heard
your call out Matt anonymous in

2437
02:26:04,980 --> 02:26:08,460
Cambridge, Massachusetts. 333.
Heard you are low on donations.

2438
02:26:08,460 --> 02:26:12,300
Hope this helps Semper Supra.
Thank you very much. This is

2439
02:26:12,300 --> 02:26:13,740
great. Love this.

2440
02:26:14,070 --> 02:26:18,390
John C Dvorak: Adam X and
Babylon New York. 333. My name

2441
02:26:18,390 --> 02:26:22,230
is Adam X. I started listening
to you during COVID and have

2442
02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:27,300
kept me sane has kept me sane
through the insanity of what we

2443
02:26:27,300 --> 02:26:33,060
now called Reality. Cook me and
make cricket burger with a side

2444
02:26:33,060 --> 02:26:39,030
of microplastics thanks. Thanks
from Long Island.

2445
02:26:40,050 --> 02:26:42,390
Adam Curry: That's so nice to
see so many people came in

2446
02:26:42,630 --> 02:26:46,110
during COVID particularly women.
I like to add a Mexican man but

2447
02:26:46,110 --> 02:26:49,170
a lot of mama bears showed up
when they're still hanging

2448
02:26:49,170 --> 02:26:51,870
around and believe me when
you've got the whole world

2449
02:26:51,870 --> 02:26:55,020
looking up at stupid balloons,
you still need your no agenda

2450
02:26:55,020 --> 02:26:59,610
show. Sir hope report in
Pendleton, Indiana. 333 No

2451
02:26:59,610 --> 02:27:03,090
jingles no karma from Sir hope
report. Thank you and thank you.

2452
02:27:04,050 --> 02:27:07,500
John C Dvorak: Rebecca waters is
up from Albuquerque, New Mexico.

2453
02:27:07,740 --> 02:27:13,020
And she makes it even shorter.
That $323 Keep it coming. Much

2454
02:27:13,020 --> 02:27:14,850
love No.

2455
02:27:15,150 --> 02:27:20,430
Adam Curry: Show Nice. Sean
brown Harriman, Utah 321 Dodge

2456
02:27:20,430 --> 02:27:24,660
65 I decided oh I decided to
cleanse the remains of the Pay

2457
02:27:24,660 --> 02:27:27,600
Pal account I want to get my
wife Natalie de Deus. She

2458
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:31,140
manages our for human resources
and does a spectacular job

2459
02:27:31,140 --> 02:27:33,780
please do Duchenne play a
classic jingle of your choice.

2460
02:27:33,810 --> 02:27:35,730
Your choice John Foster jingle

2461
02:27:36,599 --> 02:27:39,059
John C Dvorak: want to share a
secret? See if you can find it.

2462
02:27:40,050 --> 02:27:45,300
Adam Curry: Yes, this time I
named it appropriately. You've

2463
02:27:45,300 --> 02:27:46,710
been de deuced

2464
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:50,760
Unknown: there's no winning
foster a competitive atmosphere

2465
02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:54,300
but we laugh a lot. Now everyone
hug and share a secret

2466
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:56,490
Adam Curry: now you can't catch
me three times on that. I'll

2467
02:27:56,490 --> 02:27:58,530
fail twice but the third time
we'll come back.

2468
02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:02,460
John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin
McLaughlin is up Whoa,

2469
02:28:02,490 --> 02:28:04,320
Adam Curry: he's or what did you
What are you doing up here?

2470
02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:10,470
John C Dvorak: He's up $314.15
Wow. Locust North Carolina.

2471
02:28:11,250 --> 02:28:14,430
Early Pi Day donation. Oh, I
forgot about piteous coming.

2472
02:28:14,460 --> 02:28:15,720
Adam Curry: Oh 314 Yeah, we

2473
02:28:15,720 --> 02:28:17,310
John C Dvorak: miss it every
year. No, no,

2474
02:28:17,310 --> 02:28:18,870
Adam Curry: we've we've caught
it. We've caught up several

2475
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:19,620
times not

2476
02:28:19,890 --> 02:28:24,330
John C Dvorak: to miss it most
often. Early Pi Day donation

2477
02:28:24,330 --> 02:28:27,810
responded although it's not a
big success. Nobody cares.

2478
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:32,880
response by the newsletter
failure rate. Archduke of Luna

2479
02:28:32,880 --> 02:28:34,470
lover America and boobs.

2480
02:28:34,830 --> 02:28:39,180
Adam Curry: Guy so cool, man.
Next on the list. Catherine

2481
02:28:39,210 --> 02:28:42,840
Boudreau in Carlisle,
Massachusetts, Adam and John

2482
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:44,970
I've only been listening for a
short time but I wish I'd found

2483
02:28:44,970 --> 02:28:48,360
your show sooner as my world
shrinks because everyone around

2484
02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:52,830
me has lost their mind. Your
show is a refuge for me. Thank

2485
02:28:52,830 --> 02:28:56,490
you, Katherine. Welcome. Yes, we
are here to give you sanity and

2486
02:28:56,490 --> 02:29:00,270
for as much as we can. Because
we do laugh a lot. We laugh a

2487
02:29:00,270 --> 02:29:01,560
lot. We laugh a lot.

2488
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:05,490
John C Dvorak: So no, it's funny
because you got me turned on to

2489
02:29:05,490 --> 02:29:08,130
the idea of having a couple of
fake accounts and some of these

2490
02:29:08,130 --> 02:29:13,380
journalists Mastodon instances
Oh yeah. So I stumbled onto

2491
02:29:13,380 --> 02:29:18,180
another couple that s s SF Bay
dotnet some some local thing

2492
02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:21,750
with a bunch of another mogul
Macedon thing another Bassett on

2493
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:28,050
and there's a bunch of and it's
hilarious to this did amount of

2494
02:29:28,050 --> 02:29:33,300
insanity amongst these people
who all quit Twitter. Right?

2495
02:29:33,450 --> 02:29:34,830
They deserve musk.

2496
02:29:36,540 --> 02:29:39,870
Adam Curry: Yes, because of
musk. I wouldn't I would never

2497
02:29:39,870 --> 02:29:42,930
buy a Tesla. In fact, I'm
burning mine.

2498
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:47,040
John C Dvorak: It's unbelievable
how nutty these people are.

2499
02:29:47,130 --> 02:29:47,580
Yeah,

2500
02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:48,930
Adam Curry: I know. I know.

2501
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:53,640
John C Dvorak: Cody the black
metal cowboys variation.

2502
02:29:53,670 --> 02:29:56,340
Adam Curry: He was our
complainer. Well, alright, now

2503
02:29:56,340 --> 02:29:59,940
the complainer yeah now that he
donated you know, we love you

2504
02:30:00,780 --> 02:30:07,710
He's the best we burned him and
he gave us money. Thank you Cody

2505
02:30:07,710 --> 02:30:08,280
the black middle

2506
02:30:08,310 --> 02:30:10,650
John C Dvorak: Long Beach,
California he's living it up

2507
02:30:10,650 --> 02:30:16,020
down there Long Beach used to be
a amusement park down there

2508
02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:20,550
called the pike which we had one
of the greatest roller coasters

2509
02:30:20,550 --> 02:30:22,140
in the west coast in the world

2510
02:30:22,170 --> 02:30:24,000
Adam Curry: now he's going to
debunk you on that he's going to

2511
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:25,530
tell you that that was not the
greatest

2512
02:30:25,890 --> 02:30:27,720
John C Dvorak: gotta be after
his time he probably never he

2513
02:30:27,720 --> 02:30:32,010
never got to go there they tore
it down to under $48.16 He's got

2514
02:30:32,010 --> 02:30:34,590
the right thing here says no
notes no jingles no karma

2515
02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:37,080
Adam Curry: the guy is actually
quite good and we were wrong we

2516
02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:40,020
said these people who complain
never donate and there it is

2517
02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:44,190
bucking bucking the trend. Cody
the black metal cowboy

2518
02:30:44,220 --> 02:30:47,400
appreciate that that that if I
had known that I would have gone

2519
02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:52,470
softer on him. Now probably not.
Thank you ma'am. Sir Lucas in

2520
02:30:52,470 --> 02:30:57,720
Federal Way Washington. Bless
you 20202 A nice nice

2521
02:30:58,050 --> 02:31:02,160
palindrome. Sir Lucas with the
last bit a shot of baby making

2522
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:05,250
karma would be appreciated. We
gotta go.

2523
02:31:05,550 --> 02:31:06,840
Unknown: Got karma

2524
02:31:08,190 --> 02:31:09,960
Adam Curry: says that we're sure
it'll take the next one. Brian

2525
02:31:09,960 --> 02:31:15,180
Taylor. In Katy, Texas. Wait a
minute. We know the tailors in

2526
02:31:15,180 --> 02:31:19,560
Katy, Texas. I finally made
associate producer Yes. $200.13.

2527
02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:24,240
Over halfway tonight. I got my
smokin hot wife Karen pregnant

2528
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:27,150
the week after the Bastrop
meetup. Oh,

2529
02:31:27,780 --> 02:31:30,720
John C Dvorak: hey, go. No
agenda strikes again.

2530
02:31:33,660 --> 02:31:36,030
Adam Curry: We're available for
all of your weddings and Bar

2531
02:31:36,030 --> 02:31:39,300
Mitzvahs based on my spreadsheet
calculation dresses and I

2532
02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:42,930
attribute it to the karma we got
that weekend. Thanks, Leah

2533
02:31:42,930 --> 02:31:47,370
Louise. His name is Logan. He's
a male slash boy. But we expect

2534
02:31:47,370 --> 02:31:50,940
him to identify as Wolverine.
After Krav Maga training.

2535
02:31:51,900 --> 02:31:55,290
Rolando is Rolando Gonzalez gave
me the intro to you. And I was

2536
02:31:55,290 --> 02:31:58,380
so starstruck, I probably
sounded retarded talking about

2537
02:31:58,380 --> 02:32:01,440
how I found y'all on YouTube and
had been a fan since headbangers

2538
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:05,430
ball. Anyways, it was great
meeting you and Tina. I've been

2539
02:32:05,430 --> 02:32:08,910
Man Overboard for a month or so.
But I'm back now. I need all

2540
02:32:08,910 --> 02:32:12,870
purpose karma. Thank you for all
you guys have done and do ill

2541
02:32:12,900 --> 02:32:16,800
Brian Taylor, thank you so much.
And thank you for your well you

2542
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:19,110
could have named your kid after
one of us. I mean, honestly,

2543
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:22,230
that that would have been the
proper thing to do. But at least

2544
02:32:23,490 --> 02:32:28,650
admitting that that we are
responsible for for your for

2545
02:32:28,650 --> 02:32:31,230
your human resource. Is it
really good for you and thank

2546
02:32:31,230 --> 02:32:35,910
you so much. You've got karma

2547
02:32:37,860 --> 02:32:43,740
John C Dvorak: Garrett Hampton
and Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Fed

2548
02:32:43,740 --> 02:32:48,570
up with the indoctrination of
your kids. Or let me read this

2549
02:32:48,570 --> 02:32:51,000
like it should be an
announcement announcement fed up

2550
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:54,450
with indoctrination of your kids
what they're getting at school.

2551
02:32:54,450 --> 02:32:59,640
Join us for the home grown
generation family Expo. A live

2552
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:04,350
interactive online homeschool
conference. Starting tomorrow.

2553
02:33:04,770 --> 02:33:11,640
Monday, March 6. Sign up at home
grown generation.com

2554
02:33:12,870 --> 02:33:21,090
Adam Curry: All right. Good one.
Zac Brown the third I think in

2555
02:33:21,510 --> 02:33:25,980
Macau Macau Makawao Makawao.

2556
02:33:26,010 --> 02:33:31,410
John C Dvorak: Mecca wha wha wha
oh

2557
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:33,540
Adam Curry: well we do the
monitor Wow. Do you want it all

2558
02:33:33,540 --> 02:33:37,650
there's no notes so give you
will give you a double double up

2559
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:46,110
John C Dvorak: another no note
from Todd Voss in Davenport,

2560
02:33:46,140 --> 02:33:58,980
Iowa give him a double up 200
bucks you've got karma and well,

2561
02:33:58,980 --> 02:34:04,320
we're over the number four doing
to SET set separate segments.

2562
02:34:05,310 --> 02:34:08,730
Adam Curry: I did notice that
but I think considering where we

2563
02:34:08,730 --> 02:34:14,100
like it, I kind of I want the
one one long segment. Well now

2564
02:34:14,130 --> 02:34:19,380
listen to the content we had in
this. It's not like it's you

2565
02:34:19,380 --> 02:34:22,440
know, there's no reason to
listen to it. The content

2566
02:34:22,470 --> 02:34:24,780
John C Dvorak: No, I'm not
arguing with let's do it. Ready?

2567
02:34:24,900 --> 02:34:28,860
We're gonna go on part two just
the names and people do donate

2568
02:34:28,860 --> 02:34:34,200
lesser 52 last blast. Blasted
and not anonymous in Billings,

2569
02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:40,440
Montana. 150 Joe compania in
Ontario, California switcheroo

2570
02:34:40,440 --> 02:34:45,450
for his sister Angela.
Embarrassed Dame hood. Sir night

2571
02:34:45,450 --> 02:34:51,150
of the East Side. Maplewood
Minnesota nuts. 12345. And by

2572
02:34:51,150 --> 02:34:55,950
the way, Joe can find us 12345
Gabriel Adams in Blackfoot,

2573
02:34:55,950 --> 02:35:03,840
Idaho. 12333 the bed Peter
registration dish nig Rajesh

2574
02:35:03,870 --> 02:35:09,090
thickening I hate this name is
impossible. In Thornton,

2575
02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:12,930
Colorado 10289. He's gonna have
to send me a pronunciation

2576
02:35:12,930 --> 02:35:17,340
print. A gasket tear. I carry
Jackson and Watertown, Tennessee

2577
02:35:17,340 --> 02:35:22,290
100. Sure l Peterson in Auburn,
California 100 Eric Renaud,

2578
02:35:22,830 --> 02:35:29,250
Renard, in Sutton, Massachusetts
100 Kevin McAtee in Centennial,

2579
02:35:29,250 --> 02:35:36,720
Colorado honored Michael Kellner
in Ripon, California 100. He

2580
02:35:36,720 --> 02:35:39,540
says, John, you're scamming us
with your problem with a

2581
02:35:39,540 --> 02:35:41,130
newsletter stick?

2582
02:35:43,650 --> 02:35:44,460
Adam Curry: I don't think so.

2583
02:35:45,630 --> 02:35:50,220
John C Dvorak: No, it's not very
I object. Only if you're honest.

2584
02:35:50,220 --> 02:35:54,300
Is it work? William Taylor in
Higginsville, Missouri. 100.

2585
02:35:54,750 --> 02:35:58,080
Shameless the hillbilly
whisperer inadequate Indiana

2586
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:02,340
hundreds of hundreds here John
Roman a 100. Paul ham 100 from

2587
02:36:02,340 --> 02:36:06,690
West Palm Beach, Florida. And he
needs a delusion for his brother

2588
02:36:06,690 --> 02:36:16,200
Steve. You've been de deuced
Craig wax in his smokin hot

2589
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:22,800
wife, RIM rock Arizona. David
part in in Pensacola, Florida.

2590
02:36:22,890 --> 02:36:25,530
100 These are all hundreds.
Thank you, John and Anna for

2591
02:36:25,530 --> 02:36:29,370
humanism formed. Greg Hunter
Springfield, Missouri 100. Now

2592
02:36:29,370 --> 02:36:33,450
we dropped down to Sir Kevin
McLaughlin is backwards. He's

2593
02:36:33,450 --> 02:36:36,030
already an executive producer,
so I guess it can't go much

2594
02:36:36,030 --> 02:36:39,780
higher but he had another 808 to
keep his streak going. Oh,

2595
02:36:40,560 --> 02:36:46,680
boobs. A Matthew Brunner and
Dale, Indiana. 808. And I have

2596
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:49,020
to read this note. I know we
don't normally read notes down

2597
02:36:49,020 --> 02:36:52,920
here but this one says I see why
short Kevin McLaughlin donates

2598
02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:59,400
this amount. It feels good.
Interesting. Steven McLean and

2599
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:06,660
Sheila BC 7777 Amy's a de
douching you've been de deuced

2600
02:37:07,230 --> 02:37:13,170
he's a call out Christina is a
douchebag. Darius Walker in

2601
02:37:13,170 --> 02:37:22,260
Charleston West Virginia. 7714
By the way, Steve was 7777 7714

2602
02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:29,730
He needs a D douching. You've
been de deuced when Kartini in

2603
02:37:29,760 --> 02:37:36,150
Torrington, Connecticut 7421
Kate Smith and Leonard town,

2604
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:42,960
Maryland 6969 and Brian Furley
5510 Simon belgrove in Highland

2605
02:37:42,960 --> 02:37:50,400
New York 55. A do douching is
needed. You've been de deuced

2606
02:37:50,610 --> 02:37:57,090
Jason Benson. gunsmith
Gladewater Texas he needs a de

2607
02:37:57,090 --> 02:38:05,970
douching you've been de deuced
and he came with 5333 Sir Chris

2608
02:38:05,970 --> 02:38:12,120
Abraham $53 He's got a birthday.
It'll be 53 makes Michael gates

2609
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:17,400
52 at Jared Smith and Fort
Wayne, Indiana. 5199 Love you

2610
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:23,220
guys. Christopher Jones in
Paris, Texas. 5151 John Foley in

2611
02:38:23,220 --> 02:38:30,090
Chicago Heights 5115 Teresa
Statum stat. Haim. Start Time

2612
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:36,180
that time in Plymouth Minnesota.
That's 51 the boys at the shack

2613
02:38:36,360 --> 02:38:41,250
in Bolivar New York 5033 Dame
night in Edmonds, Washington

2614
02:38:41,250 --> 02:38:48,900
5015. Sir Michael, in Snohomish,
Washington 50. Now, this would

2615
02:38:48,900 --> 02:38:53,610
be all the $50 donors name and
location. Here we go. John

2616
02:38:53,610 --> 02:38:59,670
Ferretti Gherardi, Pennsylvania.
James Neal in Spring, Texas.

2617
02:39:00,150 --> 02:39:04,260
Monica Boyle in Brooklyn, New
York. Colin Pettit in Fairfield,

2618
02:39:04,260 --> 02:39:10,080
Iowa, Anna Drake and Wrightstown
Indiana. Eric Adams, not the

2619
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:17,010
mayor in Middlesex, Vermont.
Does he need anything? No, sir

2620
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:26,280
Jub Jub Jub Jub of the jiggly
bits in Elkton, Florida. Joseph

2621
02:39:26,280 --> 02:39:30,210
green is Stevenson Ranch
California. Eric hoffen,

2622
02:39:30,240 --> 02:39:36,120
Edmonton, California, Edmonton,
Canada, Edmonton, Canada. Carl

2623
02:39:36,120 --> 02:39:40,830
Wagner in ER Vogler, Vogler in
Dillon Beach, California, he

2624
02:39:40,830 --> 02:39:48,690
needs a de douching you've been
de deuced plenty of alar in

2625
02:39:48,720 --> 02:39:54,390
Austin, Texas first time donor.
Give him a de douche. You've

2626
02:39:54,390 --> 02:39:59,220
been de deuced good. Oh sir
Matthew Juliana's ski in Chicago

2627
02:39:59,670 --> 02:40:04,260
50 William Martin Crandall,
Texas Miko le bar in

2628
02:40:04,260 --> 02:40:09,030
Williamstown, Michigan Alex
avala in Kyle Texas James

2629
02:40:09,030 --> 02:40:13,020
sheremeta in Napa not in New
York Villa rial Villareal.

2630
02:40:13,500 --> 02:40:22,050
Elaine Brown in Eugene, Oregon.
Stephen crummy in El Cajon. By

2631
02:40:22,050 --> 02:40:27,570
the way, give Elaine Brown a de
douche. You've been de deuced

2632
02:40:28,110 --> 02:40:31,950
going to a meet up. Oh yeah, a
Taylor Elric in Phoenix Arizona

2633
02:40:31,950 --> 02:40:35,640
Steven powers in Midlothian,
Virginia Kirkpatrick and nine

2634
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:41,460
Namo nine nameko Canada,
Victoria Island. Sorry,

2635
02:40:41,490 --> 02:40:48,300
Vancouver Island, Jason Mertz in
Boise, Idaho. By the way, Kurt

2636
02:40:48,300 --> 02:40:52,470
is an actual on the air
personality to Canadian TVC Oh,

2637
02:40:52,470 --> 02:40:55,890
Adam Curry: really? Oh, that's
cool. Hey, who's that news guy?

2638
02:40:55,920 --> 02:40:57,300
Hey, news guy.

2639
02:40:57,869 --> 02:41:01,379
John C Dvorak: We'll get a clip
from him eventually. Yeah. Jason

2640
02:41:01,379 --> 02:41:06,539
Mertz in Boise, Idaho, Ryan
Edison in Bellingham,

2641
02:41:06,539 --> 02:41:11,219
Washington, David swift in
Riverside, Connecticut. And last

2642
02:41:11,219 --> 02:41:14,729
on the list is Brett Farrell,
who I believes in Oklahoma City.

2643
02:41:15,029 --> 02:41:21,629
And these people all made show
1535 a reality in a big way.

2644
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:24,120
Adam Curry: A very big way.
Thank you all so much. Thank you

2645
02:41:24,120 --> 02:41:27,210
to everyone who came in under
$50. Typically for reasons of

2646
02:41:27,210 --> 02:41:30,960
anonymity, but also a lot of
people who, not enough but a lot

2647
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:33,420
who aren't sustaining donation.
We'd lost a lot with the Pay Pal

2648
02:41:33,420 --> 02:41:36,330
pocalypse. So if you'd like to
consider coming back for that.

2649
02:41:36,330 --> 02:41:41,730
We appreciate it. Go to our
website for this for.org/and A

2650
02:41:41,730 --> 02:41:44,910
and of course, we thank all of
our executive and Associate

2651
02:41:44,910 --> 02:41:48,450
Executive producers who came in
big time today really saved the

2652
02:41:48,450 --> 02:41:53,400
day saved, saved last month,
actually, so we appreciate that.

2653
02:41:53,400 --> 02:41:56,580
These are credits that are
official, they're real anywhere

2654
02:41:56,580 --> 02:41:59,280
credits are recognized you can
try well you could of course you

2655
02:41:59,280 --> 02:42:03,420
put them on LinkedIn, you could
put them on your, on your on

2656
02:42:03,420 --> 02:42:07,800
your resume but also IMDb it's a
perfect place for people to say

2657
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:10,410
hey, you know you don't believe
me. I'm a producer. I'm

2658
02:42:10,410 --> 02:42:14,190
executive producer of an actual
media property go to imdb.com

2659
02:42:14,340 --> 02:42:16,650
they don't mess around. They
kick you off as was fake and

2660
02:42:16,650 --> 02:42:19,440
look at all the other heavy
hitters who are there. So we

2661
02:42:19,440 --> 02:42:22,740
appreciate all that you have
done and give you all the goat

2662
02:42:22,740 --> 02:42:30,090
karma. Thank you so much you've
got so that everyone else

2663
02:42:30,090 --> 02:42:33,540
together. Thank you for making
1535 a reality

2664
02:42:33,570 --> 02:42:37,950
Unknown: our formula is this. We
go out we had people in the

2665
02:42:37,950 --> 02:42:38,250
mouth

2666
02:42:57,960 --> 02:43:00,600
Adam Curry: we got a nice list
of birthdays as well. Dred Scott

2667
02:43:00,600 --> 02:43:03,300
as he came in with the show
number donation celebrate his

2668
02:43:03,300 --> 02:43:07,890
birthday yesterday. March 1.
Today my sister in Italy Willow

2669
02:43:07,890 --> 02:43:12,270
turns 54 And on Friday, she gets
her master's in psychology.

2670
02:43:12,390 --> 02:43:17,400
Happy Birthday says Dave
Clevenger turned 72 today as

2671
02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:20,820
well sir Jill saver wishes his
son sir Bradley Bill saver Happy

2672
02:43:20,820 --> 02:43:24,360
Birthday turning three on March
6 Tomorrow sir Chris Abraham

2673
02:43:24,480 --> 02:43:28,350
turning 53 on March 8 wanting to
get in on time Dan Becky wishes

2674
02:43:28,350 --> 02:43:32,370
Mike Kenny a happy birthday
turned 72 on March 8. Wow, we've

2675
02:43:32,370 --> 02:43:37,380
got another 72 birthday. And
Lucien celebrates his or her

2676
02:43:37,380 --> 02:43:39,810
birthday today apparently happy
birthday for everybody here the

2677
02:43:39,810 --> 02:43:41,400
best podcast in the universe

2678
02:43:50,490 --> 02:43:54,750
so one of the one title change
today. We've got Sir Don

2679
02:43:54,750 --> 02:43:57,570
Francis, we heard him earlier.
So Don Francis now becomes a

2680
02:43:57,570 --> 02:44:01,650
barrow net, and changes his
title to Sir Don Francis Baronet

2681
02:44:01,650 --> 02:44:04,800
of Chandler, and we thank him
for his additional $1,000

2682
02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:08,100
donation to the best podcast in
the universe too. Nice to handle

2683
02:44:08,100 --> 02:44:10,650
out today. Happy to do it

2684
02:44:10,650 --> 02:44:14,340
John C Dvorak: and ask a
question first. Sure. How old is

2685
02:44:14,340 --> 02:44:14,850
Willow?

2686
02:44:15,120 --> 02:44:15,840
Adam Curry: 54.

2687
02:44:17,310 --> 02:44:20,130
John C Dvorak: So when were you
when I met her when you were at

2688
02:44:20,130 --> 02:44:23,010
the wedding? Yeah. How many
years ago is that?

2689
02:44:26,580 --> 02:44:30,990
Adam Curry: It was 19 May
19 2019.

2690
02:44:32,010 --> 02:44:34,950
John C Dvorak: So as was four
years ago? Yeah. Three years

2691
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:37,140
ago, four years ago, something
like that. She looks like she's

2692
02:44:37,140 --> 02:44:40,560
27 Then she can't possibly be
this age. She

2693
02:44:40,560 --> 02:44:43,140
Adam Curry: is definitely the
baby of the family and clearly

2694
02:44:43,140 --> 02:44:48,810
the smartest. Clearly the smart
getting getting your masters at

2695
02:44:48,840 --> 02:44:53,610
above 50 I think it's pretty
good. And she's got a baby face.

2696
02:44:54,420 --> 02:45:01,740
I know it's irritating. Give me
a blade. Oh, here we go. Oh,

2697
02:45:01,770 --> 02:45:07,980
there you go. Okay, perfect. My
Kenny and the guy known as data

2698
02:45:07,980 --> 02:45:13,230
man. Good y'all step up here on
the podium thanks to either your

2699
02:45:13,230 --> 02:45:17,730
direct or contributions on your
behalf in $1,000 or more I'm

2700
02:45:17,730 --> 02:45:21,510
very proud to pronounce the KPBS
sir Mike of the great Katy

2701
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:25,620
Prairie and data man of the rock
hard greens, gentlemen, for you.

2702
02:45:25,650 --> 02:45:28,500
We've got hookers and blow well
maybe not for all of you. Read

2703
02:45:28,500 --> 02:45:32,040
poison Chardonnay, homemade
lemon shallow and a lone star

2704
02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:36,780
beer and summery hope. Also rare
ribeyes we got harlots and howls

2705
02:45:36,780 --> 02:45:39,120
all we got Rubenesque living in
Rosae. We've got ginger ale and

2706
02:45:39,120 --> 02:45:41,730
gerbil sparkling cider and
escorts bong hits and bourbon

2707
02:45:41,730 --> 02:45:44,400
vodka and vanilla breast milk
and pablum. But of course,

2708
02:45:44,400 --> 02:45:47,580
everyone always goes straight
for the mutton and Mead. And if

2709
02:45:47,580 --> 02:45:49,530
you want to see what these
handsome rings look like, go to

2710
02:45:49,530 --> 02:45:53,310
Noah nation.com/rings That and
the two gentlemen in question

2711
02:45:53,310 --> 02:45:56,340
should also use the form there
to let us know where to send

2712
02:45:56,340 --> 02:46:00,030
them and what size you would
like for your ring. And thank

2713
02:46:00,030 --> 02:46:02,700
you all again so much for
supporting no agenda show the

2714
02:46:02,700 --> 02:46:04,110
best podcast in the universe

2715
02:46:10,890 --> 02:46:16,560
now the list we don't have any
meetups coming up in the in

2716
02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:21,810
between in between now and what
do we add Thursday, which is odd

2717
02:46:21,810 --> 02:46:25,410
typically we do but March is
chock a block full all the way

2718
02:46:25,410 --> 02:46:29,910
through April. What we do have,
however, is chock a block chock

2719
02:46:29,910 --> 02:46:33,390
a block. It's a perfect
expression. We have 1234 meetup

2720
02:46:33,390 --> 02:46:35,040
reports. So here we go Denver.

2721
02:46:35,070 --> 02:46:38,070
Unknown: Let's get it all this
is John G do from the millennial

2722
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:41,940
media offensive here at the bi
weekly Denver meetup every other

2723
02:46:41,970 --> 02:46:42,660
Thursday.

2724
02:46:42,960 --> 02:46:46,890
And this is tacos and we are not
talking at 1.5 speed here. This

2725
02:46:46,890 --> 02:46:50,370
is Mitch apparently I'm talking
at one point servito you can

2726
02:46:50,370 --> 02:46:53,730
call me gabagool veto because I
don't want to be meatball run

2727
02:46:57,750 --> 02:47:07,950
along laying at point. This is
Colorado Care Bear.

2728
02:47:08,760 --> 02:47:10,320
Adam Curry: Jim from Denver in
the morning.

2729
02:47:10,529 --> 02:47:14,699
Unknown: I do believe this Gulag
is lit this is Colin.

2730
02:47:15,060 --> 02:47:18,150
Back to me already. It's been a
great meetup. We have them every

2731
02:47:18,150 --> 02:47:20,970
other Thursday. Come see us. Go
Leo Bravo's

2732
02:47:20,970 --> 02:47:23,220
Adam Curry: in Los Angeles. Hey,
everybody. It's

2733
02:47:23,220 --> 02:47:25,380
Unknown: Leo Bravo. We're at
meetup number 37.

2734
02:47:25,410 --> 02:47:28,290
I'm passing the phone around for
folks to give us their

2735
02:47:28,290 --> 02:47:29,760
greetings. Hey, I'm in

2736
02:47:29,760 --> 02:47:32,280
Java in the morning. This is
Bill and don't worry, Adam. I'm

2737
02:47:32,280 --> 02:47:34,650
not going to damage your ears
with my terrible Dutch.

2738
02:47:34,710 --> 02:47:38,070
Hey guys. This is Rick and it's
cold out here. No joke. Hello.

2739
02:47:38,070 --> 02:47:40,950
This is Andy representing the
ranch in the morning, in the

2740
02:47:40,950 --> 02:47:41,430
morning.

2741
02:47:41,640 --> 02:47:46,590
Adam Curry: And in the morning.
And Eugene, Oregon had their

2742
02:47:46,590 --> 02:47:47,820
meetup slaves.

2743
02:47:47,850 --> 02:47:50,220
Unknown: This is B Dubs. We're
hanging out at Papa's pizza.

2744
02:47:50,370 --> 02:47:52,980
Having some slices some good
conversation, some good

2745
02:47:52,980 --> 02:47:56,340
connection, because that is
protection. And it's and

2746
02:47:56,640 --> 02:48:00,540
this is Elaine at Papa's pizza
in Eugene and this is a one and

2747
02:48:00,540 --> 02:48:02,040
a half machinist meet up

2748
02:48:02,970 --> 02:48:10,830
in the morning. Hi guys. Shut up
already. No, sir. No. scoots

2749
02:48:10,830 --> 02:48:14,850
here it is Sir Trevor, the
machinist in the morning. This

2750
02:48:14,850 --> 02:48:19,950
is Sammy. Oh, in the morning.
Sir.

2751
02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:23,130
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is an
imperfect example of out of

2752
02:48:23,130 --> 02:48:27,210
phase if you ever wondering what
that sounds like. That's exactly

2753
02:48:27,210 --> 02:48:30,840
what it sounds like. It's okay.
These are all producer organized

2754
02:48:30,840 --> 02:48:34,560
producer run the meet up reports
all done by producers. It's

2755
02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:38,670
amazing. any of this stuff works
at all. Last one. Okay. See the

2756
02:48:38,700 --> 02:48:39,570
UI who we meet.

2757
02:48:39,660 --> 02:48:42,480
Unknown: Hey, Jamie James here
again at the UI who we meet up

2758
02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:43,920
has this mic around stay

2759
02:48:43,920 --> 02:48:45,180
fan in the morning.

2760
02:48:45,210 --> 02:48:48,510
This is Dave in the morning. My
son was going to come here he's

2761
02:48:48,510 --> 02:48:51,390
a douchebag he didn't come with
me. Maybe next time Caleb

2762
02:48:51,480 --> 02:48:52,860
Adam Curry: in the morning.
Douchebag ruble

2763
02:48:52,860 --> 02:48:55,620
Unknown: here always traversing
the cultural decline. Hey, this

2764
02:48:55,620 --> 02:48:58,980
is Cody and in the morning and I
am not a douchebag in another

2765
02:48:58,980 --> 02:49:00,570
day here in the morning.

2766
02:49:00,600 --> 02:49:03,750
Dana Cassidy Eastwood of
dimension a John and Adam,

2767
02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:05,100
thanks for all you do in the

2768
02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:06,990
morning in the morning and good
luck out there.

2769
02:49:07,020 --> 02:49:09,720
That's the crew baby. And we're
Brent barrel and those dudes at

2770
02:49:09,720 --> 02:49:11,280
Atelier Oklahoma where y'all at
man?

2771
02:49:12,300 --> 02:49:14,670
Adam Curry: You can tell that
people have a good time at these

2772
02:49:14,670 --> 02:49:18,360
meetups? Yes some of this
alcohol fueled obviously but it

2773
02:49:18,360 --> 02:49:22,080
is so important to find your
community particularly in these

2774
02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:25,680
days where you know everyone's
over socialize you know, I don't

2775
02:49:25,680 --> 02:49:27,840
know if I can talk to anybody
about anything. I'm so worried

2776
02:49:27,840 --> 02:49:31,560
about saying anything wrong.
It's a horrible now you wish you

2777
02:49:31,560 --> 02:49:34,050
could see the pictures. Everyone
looks so different. It looks

2778
02:49:34,050 --> 02:49:36,990
like none of these people belong
together. And of course we do

2779
02:49:36,990 --> 02:49:40,470
because you are part of the no
agenda nation no agenda family

2780
02:49:41,040 --> 02:49:44,700
connection is protection. It's
true. Go to one of these meetups

2781
02:49:44,700 --> 02:49:47,280
you will not regret it you will
keep going back for more just

2782
02:49:47,280 --> 02:49:50,460
like those damned potato chips.
To find out more go to no agenda

2783
02:49:50,460 --> 02:49:53,430
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you start one yourself.

2784
02:49:53,430 --> 02:49:55,170
It's easy and it will be a party

2785
02:49:57,600 --> 02:50:04,830
John C Dvorak: with all the nice
day ease you won't be triggered

2786
02:50:06,990 --> 02:50:13,950
you will be safe is like a bar

2787
02:50:16,050 --> 02:50:20,850
Adam Curry: yeah baby like a
potty. They are like a party. I

2788
02:50:20,850 --> 02:50:24,870
gotta win 17 to April keeper
Korean the keeper going to the

2789
02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:28,530
no agenda meetup in Nashville,
Tennessee. Very excited about

2790
02:50:28,530 --> 02:50:38,730
doing that one. Oh Crikey. I see
I have one, two. I have four.

2791
02:50:40,020 --> 02:50:42,360
John C Dvorak: Four. Yeah, four.
Therefore,

2792
02:50:42,810 --> 02:50:44,760
Adam Curry: let me play my first
I don't know if they're any

2793
02:50:44,760 --> 02:50:47,280
good. What is all of this mean?

2794
02:50:47,730 --> 02:50:50,100
Unknown: Kind of like that? Like
that one? Yeah. toggles

2795
02:50:50,520 --> 02:50:53,340
Adam Curry: to Trump goggles.
That's no good. Or not

2796
02:50:53,340 --> 02:50:55,380
Unknown: listening to this on
1.5.

2797
02:50:57,480 --> 02:50:59,430
Adam Curry: I like that when
appropriate, it's appropriate.

2798
02:50:59,430 --> 02:51:04,440
And the final one, it's
ridiculous. Awesome, okay.

2799
02:51:04,440 --> 02:51:05,700
John C Dvorak: Like the two of
them.

2800
02:51:05,790 --> 02:51:07,920
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. So
I'll take its minor

2801
02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:11,730
John C Dvorak: damage better. So
let's go with start with ISO

2802
02:51:11,730 --> 02:51:12,570
detail.

2803
02:51:12,869 --> 02:51:14,189
Unknown: Every detail matters.

2804
02:51:15,090 --> 02:51:16,800
Adam Curry: It's nice and clear.
That's for sure.

2805
02:51:17,760 --> 02:51:21,450
John C Dvorak: Every detail
matters. Okay. Let's go with

2806
02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:23,220
Fauci prosecuted.

2807
02:51:23,790 --> 02:51:26,430
Adam Curry: I got this one too,
but I decided against it. I

2808
02:51:26,430 --> 02:51:29,730
shouldn't be prosecuted. It
works better with video that

2809
02:51:29,730 --> 02:51:33,360
one. You said I just wanted to
play it shit eating grin he's

2810
02:51:33,360 --> 02:51:36,510
got on his face. I so great.
Really great to have this

2811
02:51:36,510 --> 02:51:40,890
conversation. Okay, not bad, not
bad. Not bad.

2812
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:43,830
John C Dvorak: And then last is
money. Your money's

2813
02:51:43,830 --> 02:51:44,940
Unknown: been thinking about
you.

2814
02:51:47,160 --> 02:51:50,280
Adam Curry: I would say it's a
toss up between really great to

2815
02:51:50,280 --> 02:51:58,260
have this conversation. And and
what is all of this mean? I

2816
02:51:58,260 --> 02:52:01,560
think maybe the winner is this
one. Or

2817
02:52:01,560 --> 02:52:03,900
Unknown: not listening to this
on 1.5?

2818
02:52:05,400 --> 02:52:07,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's just
go with that. I think that's the

2819
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:08,010
thematic catch.

2820
02:52:08,040 --> 02:52:09,900
Adam Curry: It's the magic. Yes,
that's exactly what we're

2821
02:52:09,900 --> 02:52:16,410
looking for thematic. Okay, what
can we leave people with? Oh,

2822
02:52:16,440 --> 02:52:21,660
I'd like to say I'm still a
little upset about the

2823
02:52:21,690 --> 02:52:24,240
restrictions that the United
States has, I think the only

2824
02:52:24,240 --> 02:52:29,340
country left in the world that
does not allow non citizens or

2825
02:52:29,340 --> 02:52:33,690
non residents to enter the
United States without a vaccine

2826
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:37,620
proof of vaccination. And the
fact unbelievable that we have

2827
02:52:37,620 --> 02:52:42,210
lawmakers pleading for the
President to make an exception

2828
02:52:42,210 --> 02:52:47,820
for the tennis player no VOC
joke joke of a joke which pisses

2829
02:52:47,820 --> 02:52:51,960
me off that you're you're you're
calling for an exception for a

2830
02:52:51,960 --> 02:52:52,710
celebrity

2831
02:52:52,710 --> 02:52:55,740
John C Dvorak: just dropped a
whole thing? Yes. Yes.

2832
02:52:55,740 --> 02:52:58,770
Adam Curry: And the lawmakers
who are requesting this

2833
02:52:58,770 --> 02:53:04,140
exception Screw you. This thing
should be grown gone long gone.

2834
02:53:04,260 --> 02:53:07,050
Check the calendar. Yeah, and
they're not dropping it until

2835
02:53:07,050 --> 02:53:10,380
May and I'll bet you they'll try
and prolong it again.

2836
02:53:11,880 --> 02:53:14,400
John C Dvorak: Poor why bother?
What's the point?

2837
02:53:16,140 --> 02:53:21,690
Adam Curry: I don't know. It's
racist. Biden is a racist items

2838
02:53:21,690 --> 02:53:23,250
a total racist jerk.

2839
02:53:23,730 --> 02:53:26,070
John C Dvorak: Have you noticed
I have some battery clips. I

2840
02:53:26,070 --> 02:53:29,550
have goose Biden clip. He's
talking to a bunch of black guys

2841
02:53:29,550 --> 02:53:31,080
Biden divine nine.

2842
02:53:31,500 --> 02:53:36,660
Unknown: I know real power when
I see it. Divine nine. We're

2843
02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:39,480
honored to have presidents all
the presidents here tonight. I

2844
02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:40,350
want to thank you.

2845
02:53:41,400 --> 02:53:44,940
By the way, you know, I'm not
smiling. I may be a white boy,

2846
02:53:44,940 --> 02:53:45,780
but I'm not stupid.

2847
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:50,400
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Yeah, I saw
what a dick. This is such a dick

2848
02:53:50,400 --> 02:53:53,910
thing to say. Bye. Bye. Maybe a
white boy, but I'm not stupid.

2849
02:53:54,840 --> 02:53:57,660
What does that mean? Most white
boys are stupid president.

2850
02:53:58,230 --> 02:53:59,040
John C Dvorak: That's what he
said.

2851
02:53:59,190 --> 02:54:04,110
Adam Curry: i det so
disappointing. And of course, no

2852
02:54:04,110 --> 02:54:05,580
one really calls him out for it.

2853
02:54:06,690 --> 02:54:09,030
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. You can't it is to cover

2854
02:54:09,030 --> 02:54:11,010
for him. So maybe just the
opposite. Maybe

2855
02:54:11,070 --> 02:54:13,140
Adam Curry: I don't watch Tucker
anymore. I'm done with Tucker.

2856
02:54:13,260 --> 02:54:14,130
I'm done with him.

2857
02:54:14,310 --> 02:54:16,770
John C Dvorak: i Oh, my. I think
Tucker's got some good shows.

2858
02:54:16,800 --> 02:54:17,400
Now. Well, if

2859
02:54:17,400 --> 02:54:18,780
Adam Curry: you find anything,
let me know.

2860
02:54:19,680 --> 02:54:23,850
John C Dvorak: Well, you'll hear
it unclips. Here's another

2861
02:54:23,850 --> 02:54:27,720
interesting just Biden doing
some fake Biden some podcaster

2862
02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:33,180
did is terrible. This has
nothing like Biden. And then the

2863
02:54:33,180 --> 02:54:36,870
podcaster sheepishly comes out
with some commentary afterwards.

2864
02:54:36,870 --> 02:54:41,550
This is lousy Biden fake draft
notice. Clip.

2865
02:54:43,560 --> 02:54:45,660
Unknown: Oh, February, the
illegal Russian offensive has

2866
02:54:45,660 --> 02:54:48,540
been swift, callous, and brutal

2867
02:54:48,630 --> 02:54:51,120
Adam Curry: already is like no,
it's barbaric.

2868
02:54:51,420 --> 02:54:54,090
Unknown: Putin's illegal
occupation. The impending

2869
02:54:54,090 --> 02:54:57,720
Chinese blockade of Taiwan has
created a two front national

2870
02:54:57,720 --> 02:55:00,690
security crisis that requires
more troops In the volunteer

2871
02:55:00,690 --> 02:55:03,780
military can supply I have
received guidance

2872
02:55:03,870 --> 02:55:08,640
Adam Curry: sounds like Biden in
1985. Maybe? No, that's the

2873
02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:11,760
John C Dvorak: problem. The old
Biden doesn't talk like Biden

2874
02:55:11,820 --> 02:55:15,690
Unknown: received guidance from
General Milley at 1885. But the

2875
02:55:15,690 --> 02:55:18,840
recommended way forward will be
to invoke the Selective Service

2876
02:55:18,840 --> 02:55:22,800
Act, as is my authority as
president. The first to be

2877
02:55:22,800 --> 02:55:26,550
called in a sequence determined
by National Lottery will be men

2878
02:55:26,550 --> 02:55:29,370
and women whose 20th birthday
falls during calendar year.

2879
02:55:29,370 --> 02:55:30,840
2023. can't

2880
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:33,300
Adam Curry: listen to it. It's
horrible. I'll play the last

2881
02:55:33,300 --> 02:55:33,960
seven seconds

2882
02:55:33,960 --> 02:55:36,300
John C Dvorak: just because no
don't play anymore. Just play

2883
02:55:36,300 --> 02:55:40,560
this lousy Biden fake podcast.
Just fake podcasts is the

2884
02:55:40,590 --> 02:55:44,430
podcaster apologizing for the
lousy job he did. God bless our

2885
02:55:44,430 --> 02:55:51,750
troops. God bless Ukraine. We
just played for you was a sneak

2886
02:55:51,750 --> 02:55:57,720
preview coming attractions a
glimpse into the world beyond

2887
02:55:57,990 --> 02:56:02,670
that was an A I want to say
recreation, but maybe a pre

2888
02:56:02,670 --> 02:56:07,860
creation, a pre creation of
President Biden designed and

2889
02:56:07,860 --> 02:56:11,370
scripted by our producers here
for the show.

2890
02:56:11,430 --> 02:56:15,060
Adam Curry: Okay, who is this?
podcaster who is his podcaster

2891
02:56:16,080 --> 02:56:18,420
John C Dvorak: I want to refuse
to answer that question.

2892
02:56:18,450 --> 02:56:21,270
Adam Curry: By the power vested
in me as the pod father I did

2893
02:56:21,270 --> 02:56:27,240
notice you smell so good.

2894
02:56:27,450 --> 02:56:32,640
John C Dvorak: i The thing is,
this is bullcrap. reinstituting

2895
02:56:32,640 --> 02:56:35,160
this selective service under any
circumstance and

2896
02:56:35,160 --> 02:56:38,130
Adam Curry: the whole thing is
done. This is people are stupid.

2897
02:56:38,490 --> 02:56:45,180
Did you okay? What what? I'm
gonna play this. So we're just

2898
02:56:45,180 --> 02:56:47,940
talking about AI and how it's
going to take over the world.

2899
02:56:47,970 --> 02:56:54,930
All right, so So now they've
they've taken the job of disc

2900
02:56:54,930 --> 02:57:04,650
jockey on top 40 radio stations.
Light FM W L TW. Everybody. They

2901
02:57:04,650 --> 02:57:10,830
know it's already even in the
1990s when I was doing z 100 w h

2902
02:57:10,830 --> 02:57:17,190
tz the flame thrower in New York
no I was a celebrated on the air

2903
02:57:17,190 --> 02:57:20,040
so I could do a little more than
most jocks but the program

2904
02:57:20,040 --> 02:57:24,030
director Steve Kingston at the
time murmur are gone. He would

2905
02:57:24,210 --> 02:57:27,480
literally say to disc jockeys
just read the card a monkey

2906
02:57:27,480 --> 02:57:31,530
could do this job. Just do your
job read the card read the

2907
02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:35,940
weather talks that talk the
record up never back announce do

2908
02:57:35,940 --> 02:57:37,350
your job. A monkey

2909
02:57:37,350 --> 02:57:40,230
John C Dvorak: could do he
actually said never back

2910
02:57:40,230 --> 02:57:40,740
announced.

2911
02:57:40,920 --> 02:57:43,710
Adam Curry: Oh no never back
announced are never backing

2912
02:57:43,710 --> 02:57:44,220
outs.

2913
02:57:44,970 --> 02:57:46,680
John C Dvorak: That's annoying.
Yep.

2914
02:57:46,710 --> 02:57:49,920
Adam Curry: Never back announce
only moving forward coming up on

2915
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:52,980
Z 100 always unique. What's your
favorite song? What's your

2916
02:57:52,980 --> 02:57:57,870
favorite radio station? That's
right, you wouldn't take it. So

2917
02:57:57,870 --> 02:58:05,220
no. Now this whole GPT AI thing
has gone so far. That they not

2918
02:58:05,220 --> 02:58:09,000
there is now an outfit there
radio GPT who are seriously

2919
02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:17,760
selling a a fake AI driven disc
jockey and their promo reel is

2920
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:22,890
is read by the same fake disc
jockey. You will soon be hearing

2921
02:58:22,920 --> 02:58:26,760
on a radio stations. Tell me
when you can't when you can't

2922
02:58:26,760 --> 02:58:28,380
just can't handle it anymore.

2923
02:58:28,410 --> 02:58:30,660
Unknown: Future AI is
revolutionizing the audio

2924
02:58:30,660 --> 02:58:34,470
industry with the launch of
radio GPT the world's first AI

2925
02:58:34,470 --> 02:58:40,830
driven localized radio content
solution. Radio GPT combines the

2926
02:58:40,830 --> 02:58:45,000
power of GPT three technology
with future is AI driven story

2927
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:49,350
discovery and social content
system topic posts as well as AI

2928
02:58:49,350 --> 02:58:52,290
voice tech to provide an
unmatched localized Radio

2929
02:58:52,290 --> 02:58:56,610
Experience sounds so exciting
for any market any format using

2930
02:58:56,610 --> 02:59:00,300
futures patented automation link
and patented topical system

2931
02:59:00,540 --> 02:59:05,010
along with AI voice technology,
radio GPT brings a radio station

2932
02:59:05,010 --> 02:59:05,490
to life.

2933
02:59:06,960 --> 02:59:08,250
Adam Curry: Is it coming to life
for you? Yes.

2934
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:12,000
Unknown: I can see what's in
your music log and talk about

2935
02:59:12,000 --> 02:59:14,070
the songs or artists station.

2936
02:59:14,730 --> 02:59:17,340
Adam Curry: I can see what
happened RP Oh, it's horrible

2937
02:59:17,340 --> 02:59:20,040
Unknown: your local market right
now and talk about it in real

2938
02:59:20,040 --> 02:59:24,390
time. I can post on your
Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and

2939
02:59:24,390 --> 02:59:29,520
Tik Tok and talk about what we
all know there's only AI voice

2940
02:59:30,510 --> 02:59:34,500
and pre promoting content going
into breaks. I can talk about

2941
02:59:34,500 --> 02:59:35,610
the weather or traffic,

2942
02:59:36,990 --> 02:59:37,950
Adam Curry: weather and traffic.

2943
02:59:38,400 --> 02:59:40,680
Unknown: I can see how many
people are listening right now

2944
02:59:40,710 --> 02:59:43,890
on the ones streaming and say
hello to certain locations.

2945
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:45,120
Adam Curry: Hello Cleveland.

2946
02:59:46,950 --> 02:59:49,590
Unknown: I can take open mic
audio from listeners using

2947
02:59:49,590 --> 02:59:53,100
future mobile and incorporate
their thoughts questions and

2948
02:59:53,100 --> 02:59:54,360
feedback into my show.

2949
02:59:54,420 --> 02:59:56,970
Adam Curry: I can't take myself
anymore. This is what they

2950
02:59:56,970 --> 02:59:59,820
really think the future is going
to be. It's like just cut out

2951
02:59:59,820 --> 03:00:04,170
all All humanity. And by the way
that this is a video and the and

2952
03:00:04,170 --> 03:00:07,260
the AI robot woman doesn't
blink. It's really creepy.

2953
03:00:08,280 --> 03:00:11,670
John C Dvorak: And we all know
there's been, we've caught a

2954
03:00:11,670 --> 03:00:18,930
number of robo calls that are
now robots. Yeah. And most of

2955
03:00:18,930 --> 03:00:21,660
the time is pretty standard. But
there's a couple of ones that

2956
03:00:21,660 --> 03:00:26,730
are showing up that are decent,
but they're the whole they're a

2957
03:00:26,730 --> 03:00:29,880
little overconfident though,
because they don't have any real

2958
03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:32,460
because if you spot them,
because I'm now skeptical,

2959
03:00:32,460 --> 03:00:36,630
there's and I'll tell you the
one guy calling for the police

2960
03:00:36,660 --> 03:00:37,980
in a retirement fund fun.

2961
03:00:38,160 --> 03:00:41,550
Adam Curry: Oh, I despise that
call.

2962
03:00:42,119 --> 03:00:44,369
John C Dvorak: Now this guy
calls you got a big deep voice.

2963
03:00:44,399 --> 03:00:48,899
Yeah, big voice. And this guy
used to be a real person. But

2964
03:00:48,899 --> 03:00:52,499
they've robotized him. You're
right. And so he caught you.

2965
03:00:52,499 --> 03:00:55,319
I've got the reason I spotted
this. I didn't spotted it first.

2966
03:00:55,319 --> 03:00:58,709
And I don't know why I didn't
spotted it first. But I spotted

2967
03:00:58,709 --> 03:01:02,039
it because he called again. This
time I said, Hey, wait a minute,

2968
03:01:02,039 --> 03:01:08,189
you just called a little while
ago. And he didn't respond.

2969
03:01:08,189 --> 03:01:13,739
Right? He clicked into some
other sub sub routine. And he

2970
03:01:13,739 --> 03:01:17,219
started talking about something
else. And I said, Wow, were you

2971
03:01:17,219 --> 03:01:21,389
a robot? And I guess he doesn't
get called out too much for

2972
03:01:21,389 --> 03:01:24,479
that. Because most of the robot
callers that are robots, they

2973
03:01:24,479 --> 03:01:31,889
say yeah, well, no, I'm a real
person. And, and this deep voice

2974
03:01:31,889 --> 03:01:35,399
guy calling from the Police
Association is the best except

2975
03:01:35,399 --> 03:01:39,479
for the fact that once you know
it did look for him. Everybody.

2976
03:01:40,169 --> 03:01:44,309
You once you know him, he's not
good at correcting issues was

2977
03:01:44,369 --> 03:01:47,789
because I had in the middle of
the second call. I said, what's

2978
03:01:47,789 --> 03:01:49,049
your what's your first name?

2979
03:01:50,160 --> 03:01:51,780
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,

2980
03:01:51,810 --> 03:01:53,100
John C Dvorak: there's a long
pause.

2981
03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:59,490
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. You know,
that's really that's really

2982
03:01:59,490 --> 03:02:00,180
interesting.

2983
03:02:01,350 --> 03:02:03,150
John C Dvorak: Now, because the
other one I mentioned that

2984
03:02:03,360 --> 03:02:07,950
Adam Curry: guy called me maybe
two weeks ago, and I despite

2985
03:02:07,950 --> 03:02:11,850
because I remember one time, I
almost got roped him. And I was

2986
03:02:11,850 --> 03:02:14,100
like, Yeah, we're the police
something or something.

2987
03:02:14,100 --> 03:02:18,210
Wherever. Beautiful, deep voice
very deep. Hey, I do. And I was

2988
03:02:18,210 --> 03:02:22,200
like, that was years ago that I
almost got roped in. And, and

2989
03:02:22,200 --> 03:02:24,360
it's just the guy like, do you
care about the police? You know,

2990
03:02:24,360 --> 03:02:27,090
do you ask all these cores?
Like, yeah, of course I care

2991
03:02:27,090 --> 03:02:30,510
about the police. And at the
end, it's just It just smelled a

2992
03:02:30,510 --> 03:02:35,010
rat. I'd like any of our law
enforcement officers or anyone

2993
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:36,960
John C Dvorak: ever get any
money out? Yeah,

2994
03:02:36,960 --> 03:02:39,690
Adam Curry: I'd like to know is
that legit? Is that something

2995
03:02:39,690 --> 03:02:43,530
that we should be? Should be
supporting? I mean, at all who

2996
03:02:43,530 --> 03:02:43,620
are

2997
03:02:43,620 --> 03:02:45,390
John C Dvorak: calling the
police about Yeah, it

2998
03:02:46,050 --> 03:02:49,350
Adam Curry: all feels so wrong.
I don't like it. I don't like

2999
03:02:49,350 --> 03:02:49,560
this

3000
03:02:49,560 --> 03:02:53,010
John C Dvorak: guy. This robot
guy. is the best I've heard so

3001
03:02:53,010 --> 03:02:55,290
far. The one that the other one.
They kind of stumped me the

3002
03:02:55,290 --> 03:03:00,450
first time but then I heard it
again. And it went like this.

3003
03:03:01,110 --> 03:03:06,150
phone rings. I say hello. I
don't hear. I don't hear any

3004
03:03:06,150 --> 03:03:11,760
backroom are they? Hello? Yeah.
Hello. Hello. Hello. Oh, I'm

3005
03:03:11,760 --> 03:03:16,020
sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't hear
you at first i I'm Jane from the

3006
03:03:16,020 --> 03:03:19,290
blah blah blah. And it goes on
and on this little bullshit

3007
03:03:19,290 --> 03:03:22,740
thing at the beginning. And I
thought that was very creative.

3008
03:03:22,740 --> 03:03:26,100
And I after the second time of
course, it's obviously a robot.

3009
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:29,610
But Be on the lookout for these
things. Record your conversation

3010
03:03:29,670 --> 03:03:33,810
Adam Curry: and let us know if
that's legit or not cops. Coming

3011
03:03:33,810 --> 03:03:38,610
up end of show mixes Tom
Starkweather Matty J Rolando

3012
03:03:38,610 --> 03:03:42,510
Gonzalez we have phone boy in
Phoenix live on or up next on

3013
03:03:42,510 --> 03:03:46,440
the No agenda.com Stay in the
troll room. Coming to you from

3014
03:03:46,440 --> 03:03:48,810
the heart of the Texas Hill
Country FEMA Region number six

3015
03:03:48,810 --> 03:03:50,970
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,

3016
03:03:51,330 --> 03:03:54,270
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley. Well, right now

3017
03:03:54,270 --> 03:03:57,420
it's Sunday. And it's where I
remain. I'm Jhansi Dvorak,

3018
03:03:57,450 --> 03:04:00,960
Adam Curry: we return on
Thursday for another episode of

3019
03:04:00,990 --> 03:04:03,750
deconstruction, the best podcast
in the universe, no agenda,

3020
03:04:03,750 --> 03:04:07,140
remember us at the
vorak.org/today Until then adios

3021
03:04:07,140 --> 03:04:10,260
mofos who we who he is such

3022
03:04:14,100 --> 03:04:17,910
Unknown: this is the most
dangerous time in the history of

3023
03:04:17,910 --> 03:04:21,600
our country, because some bad
things happened, you know. Now,

3024
03:04:22,170 --> 03:04:25,230
in terms of money and kind of
trillions and trillions. We're

3025
03:04:25,230 --> 03:04:29,790
talking about that that much.
We're now in a Marxism state of

3026
03:04:29,790 --> 03:04:35,310
mind that communism state of
mind, which is far worse. They

3027
03:04:35,310 --> 03:04:38,310
have the greatest line of
bullshit of any group of people

3028
03:04:39,480 --> 03:04:43,380
I've ever seen. They want
windmills all over the place

3029
03:04:43,380 --> 03:04:48,360
that ruin our fields Killip
birds and a very unreliable

3030
03:04:48,900 --> 03:04:54,480
there would have been no dead
people. Baby bonuses, the war

3031
03:04:54,480 --> 03:04:57,930
monger they want windmills all
over the place that ruin our

3032
03:04:57,930 --> 03:05:03,510
fields kill off birds. was very
unreliable. People do like me to

3033
03:05:03,510 --> 03:05:06,960
go off script a little bit
right? It's a little bit more

3034
03:05:06,960 --> 03:05:10,770
risky but it's more exciting.
They want windmills all over the

3035
03:05:10,770 --> 03:05:17,880
place that feels kilohertz and
very unreliable. It seems that

3036
03:05:17,880 --> 03:05:21,510
every single day is April Fool's
Day

3037
03:05:22,260 --> 03:05:25,170
John C Dvorak: tick around on
tick tock. Nobody needs tick

3038
03:05:25,170 --> 03:05:25,620
tock and

3039
03:05:25,620 --> 03:05:26,880
Adam Curry: everybody all riled
up.

3040
03:05:26,910 --> 03:05:29,760
John C Dvorak: Well, I've never
been that attached to it but I

3041
03:05:29,760 --> 03:05:31,440
mean, I will look at stuff just
seems

3042
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:33,210
Adam Curry: like a gut check
where you tick tock

3043
03:05:33,570 --> 03:05:34,590
John C Dvorak: tick tock, no, I

3044
03:05:34,590 --> 03:05:36,390
Unknown: mean, I look at tick
tock,

3045
03:05:36,450 --> 03:05:41,100
John C Dvorak: tick tock, tick
tock. Like tick tock, tick tock.

3046
03:05:41,430 --> 03:05:45,960
Adam Curry: Of course you do is
ruining people. Tick tock grown

3047
03:05:45,960 --> 03:05:47,910
men scrolling for an hour

3048
03:05:48,120 --> 03:05:49,920
John C Dvorak: and they go on
tick tock, and then we do it

3049
03:05:49,920 --> 03:05:50,940
maybe a couple times a week.

3050
03:05:51,810 --> 03:05:53,010
Adam Curry: I'm all for it. By
the way.

3051
03:05:53,340 --> 03:05:57,180
John C Dvorak: What is tick tock
or any product like that either.

3052
03:05:57,210 --> 03:06:00,210
Adam Curry: Tick tock gives us
their data, which is probably no

3053
03:06:00,210 --> 03:06:04,680
different from Facebook or
Instagram. Okay.

3054
03:06:05,520 --> 03:06:08,010
John C Dvorak: So when are we
going to do dig around on tick

3055
03:06:08,010 --> 03:06:11,220
tock? People are addicted to
tick tock I like to

3056
03:06:11,880 --> 03:06:14,490
Adam Curry: discuss what is
occupying people's minds is tick

3057
03:06:14,490 --> 03:06:15,420
tock suspects that

3058
03:06:15,420 --> 03:06:19,650
Unknown: China is using the app
to spy on Americans to ban does

3059
03:06:19,650 --> 03:06:23,400
not impact the more than 100
million Americans. Please tick

3060
03:06:23,400 --> 03:06:25,860
tock on non government devices.

3061
03:06:26,340 --> 03:06:28,890
Adam Curry: We want to track our
people we can have someone else

3062
03:06:28,890 --> 03:06:29,430
doing that

3063
03:06:29,460 --> 03:06:31,830
John C Dvorak: and it was used
to use my phone to no matter

3064
03:06:31,830 --> 03:06:34,860
what anyone says about tick tock
or what even your current

3065
03:06:34,860 --> 03:06:37,620
assertions I need my tick tock
like tick tock,

3066
03:06:37,890 --> 03:06:40,830
Adam Curry: teaming up with
Russia, fentanyl. It's all about

3067
03:06:40,830 --> 03:06:42,450
China. This is the pivot

3068
03:06:43,020 --> 03:06:44,970
John C Dvorak: to track down
everyone who had tick tock on

3069
03:06:44,970 --> 03:06:47,970
the phones, and FIRA FYROM is
all about

3070
03:06:47,970 --> 03:06:53,070
Adam Curry: China company needs
to like tick tock tick tock.

3071
03:06:54,960 --> 03:06:57,000
Unknown: We've got new findings
to report on the mysterious

3072
03:06:57,000 --> 03:06:57,870
ailment called

3073
03:06:57,990 --> 03:06:59,490
Havana syndrome Fana

3074
03:06:59,490 --> 03:07:03,420
syndrome Havana syndrome Havana
syndrome possibly some finit

3075
03:07:03,450 --> 03:07:06,870
energy weapon maybe a microwave
device microwave

3076
03:07:06,930 --> 03:07:10,320
energy must certain form of
pressure wave within the

3077
03:07:10,320 --> 03:07:10,830
hospital

3078
03:07:10,830 --> 03:07:13,980
so many questions and not a lot
of answers. Symptoms range from

3079
03:07:13,980 --> 03:07:17,610
dizziness, headaches and memory
loss to cognitive impairment so

3080
03:07:17,610 --> 03:07:20,340
severe that some victims say
they can no longer work. There's

3081
03:07:20,340 --> 03:07:23,340
no credible evidence the
mysterious neurological

3082
03:07:23,340 --> 03:07:27,630
symptoms, pre existing medical
conditions. Still so many

3083
03:07:27,630 --> 03:07:29,280
questions and not a lot of
answers.

3084
03:07:29,310 --> 03:07:32,790
The US government has a lot more
information Havana syndrome

3085
03:07:32,820 --> 03:07:36,690
Havana syndrome of antecessor
100 State Department personnel

3086
03:07:36,690 --> 03:07:39,600
and CIA officers afflicted
around the world seven

3087
03:07:39,630 --> 03:07:42,990
different US intelligence agency
remains as much of a history is

3088
03:07:42,990 --> 03:07:45,990
that our teachers focused on
Russia preexisting conditions,

3089
03:07:46,020 --> 03:07:48,870
conventional illnesses and
environmental factors that's

3090
03:07:48,870 --> 03:07:53,310
still classified. Collectively
the mysterious illness

3091
03:07:53,340 --> 03:07:56,970
we were not confident in the
form of microwave radiation and

3092
03:07:56,970 --> 03:07:57,420
the law

3093
03:07:57,420 --> 03:07:59,670
requires the government to
compensate victims for

3094
03:07:59,670 --> 03:08:01,290
qualifying brain injury.

3095
03:08:01,320 --> 03:08:04,290
We didn't have any direct
evidence there is no credible

3096
03:08:04,290 --> 03:08:07,890
evidence that a foreign
adversary has a weapon who is

3097
03:08:07,890 --> 03:08:08,250
causing

3098
03:08:08,250 --> 03:08:11,250
these incidents innocent or
multi year investigation and

3099
03:08:11,250 --> 03:08:11,850
many of these

3100
03:08:13,230 --> 03:08:14,730
1500 reported cases

3101
03:08:20,550 --> 03:08:27,570
for.org/and A for not listening
to this on 1.5

3102
03:08:33,420 --> 03:08:36,630
John C Dvorak: Okay, go no
agenda strikes again.

3103
03:08:39,510 --> 03:08:40,560
Adam Curry: I don't think we're
friends.

3104
03:08:44,250 --> 03:08:47,580
John C Dvorak: You're no good.
You're just as bad as those

3105
03:08:47,580 --> 03:08:51,690
people. It's a terrible product.