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John C Dvorak: Stand Alone
monster. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: April 20 2023 award
winning keep my nation media

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assassination episode 1548 This
is no agenda with no more hope

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for Mars. broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas your

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country here in SEMA reason
number six in the morning

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody's

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going to Golden Gate Park at 420
to have a community Toke. I'm

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Jhansi Dvorak

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Unknown: buzzkill

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Adam Curry: they still do that
in San Francisco they still do

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the community Toke?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, How corny
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Adam Curry: it was kind of you
know, it was kind of a thing

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when it was 20 years ago. Yeah.
even longer than that when it

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was illegal. Now that then I was
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We're bold. We're out here. Now
I read today Americans spend

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more on legal weed then what?
Product? Vodka

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John C Dvorak: more on legal
weed than guns. Oh, you

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Adam Curry: know what I would
have helped if this stream was

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back on I guess the stream

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John C Dvorak: was on I guess
not. So that he was here my

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funny bit No, I

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Adam Curry: don't think anyone
hurts. You're funny. You're

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funny. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
There we go. We're back. The

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question again now Jhansi
Dvorak, should you still want to

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participate in our quiz
Americans now spend more on

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which product then this then
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John C Dvorak: know more on this
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Adam Curry: Yes, thank you. So I
almost want to do the show over

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but no, it's okay more on legal
weed then this product

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John C Dvorak: okay, we already
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changes

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Adam Curry: chocolate which I
find hard to believe but I find

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John C Dvorak: that hard to
believe apparently. Why a lot of

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it I think has to do with the
prices illegal weeds expensive.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay,
good point.

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John C Dvorak: It is a you can
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Adam Curry: Apparently the
difference is 30 billion versus

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John C Dvorak: ha yeah 30
billion cheese right just that

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money maker going on?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, although taxes
now are screw and all the guys

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who thought they were making all
the dough. Anyway, we got it

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John C Dvorak: that way illegal
weed in California is still

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bigger probably. Money wise than
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Adam Curry: stuff. Oh, of
course. Of course. I think

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everywhere not just California
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
they're over taxing. Yes. I will

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let these guys get bank
accounts. I mean, the whole

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thing is like a joke.

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Adam Curry: So we went to
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John C Dvorak: My heard that for
the meetup. That was it. I mean,

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Adam Curry: I'd say there were
close to 100. And this was at

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the at the same roller rink.
Where we're supposed to have a

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last year. You go roller
skating. Are you crazy? No, of

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course. No, absolutely. I don't
go skiing anymore. I don't do

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snow. I'm 58 this is exactly
what I don't know.

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John C Dvorak: Geez. Well, 58 So
new 38 Okay, at least I get out

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of the house. We get out of the
house. I went out of the house.

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Well, we're really to the
backyard shoo away some dogs in

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the yard. There are so

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Adam Curry: many people who
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Yeah, I mean, like Dane

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John C Dvorak: Do you pack them
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Adam Curry: patch Sir Patrick
Scoble is now coordinate who of

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course, organized a fantastic
event. Dame Jennifer was there

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really making everything so
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was great. Damien Edison, Dame
Christina pearl or husband came

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a lot of people came down from
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John C Dvorak: Because Indiana
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Adam Curry: incredible but
there's you got fans, man, they

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really want to put together the
train meet up at the train

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museum meet up or something.
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John C Dvorak: a big museum in
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, which
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John C Dvorak: I mean, if I'd
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They keep talking about some
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some some gear that nobody else
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, maybe
Yes, sir. Patrick cool. Making

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that make it happen. Yeah, you
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else was there? The Canadian
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remember the Canadian Refugees.
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got five kids in that bus. And
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recall that they bet practically
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one of them, you know, they're
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lot of them are adopted if most,
if not all, I'm not sure

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John C Dvorak: that at least
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Adam Curry: Well, you are
really, really, I mean, you have

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such such heart for the for
everyone this morning, don't

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you? Yeah. Can I tell you a
funny travel story?

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John C Dvorak: Yes, that's what
we're here for. So,

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Adam Curry: because there is no
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or San Antonio to Nashville,
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Airlines to well pick pick your
pick your poison, with a

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possible layover, which as I
don't know if you heard the news

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yesterday. You probably didn't
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And we of course, we would want
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and not necessarily a Wednesday.
Well, here's what happened on

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Unknown: a computer glitch at
Southwest Airlines cause more

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than 2200 flights to be delayed
today. Southwest was forced to

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ground its entire fleet this
morning, frustrating fliers, the

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software malfunction lasted less
than an hour. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: less than an hour,
but you know exactly how that

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goes. So that would have screwed
everything up. Who knows if I

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would have even been back on
time. And to circumvent that

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exact problem. I saved up months
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lessons. So we could fly there.
I could fly us with the

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instructor. And this

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John C Dvorak: Oh, that's a good
idea. taken his structured

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lesson and mostly Yes, yes,
there. Yes.

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Adam Curry: But check it out. So
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She I don't think she's ever
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aircraft. Now, these are modern
aircraft. But it's small. It's

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like a car that flies. So we, in
the morning, we drive to

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Gillespie airport, which is
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all set to go and we were in the
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run was one runway at this
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way depending on the wind. And
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So you kind of decide what you
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to each other. So we are waiting
by the runway, where we would be

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next to enter the runway in the
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waiting for a small assessment
to land who decided one four was

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the direction that this person
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landing towards us. And we're
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okay, that we're on. We're
almost on the runway, we're

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waiting. And it lands it bounces
up and it crashed lands right in

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John C Dvorak: That's fabulous.

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Adam Curry: And Tina says I
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John C Dvorak: That is the
greatest story, especially for

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somebody who has not been up in
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Adam Curry: and the female
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bounced up like 30 feet in the
air John and oh gee stalled and

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she landed really hard. lunk the
gear collapses the plane starts

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to nose over. You know, it's
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flip. Okay. And I like and
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still go. Like, are you kidding
me? You're probably possibly the

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bravest passenger ever. I had
never even seen anything like

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that. That was crazy. So that
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John C Dvorak: That's hilarious.
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Adam Curry: knew you'll get a
kick out of it.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can just
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Adam Curry: it was it was was
not not a happy start. So then

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we fly. We got the tailwind so
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then we're at Nashville airport,
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And we're 8000 feet descending
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Southwest air traffic control
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going Yeah, no, that's not
moderate. That's not moderate

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turbulence. We'd appreciate a
heads up you know, my passengers

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were pretty surprised by that.
And I'm like, Oh, crap.

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Adam Curry: it is horrible. I
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bouncing all over. People were
complaining in the hotel, people

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saying yeah, it was really rough
coming in. So imagine that on

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, this will
play out larious

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Adam Curry: Oh, 14 a man of
certain points. You had my

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jacket over her head. She just
didn't want to see

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John C Dvorak: Lee so poor girl.
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Adam Curry: I am. So she is so
badass. And she said now is in

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God's hands. I'm good. And then
she happily went back to even

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flew back with us and she do it
again. But just share why now.

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It was safe. It was a little too
long for calm. For because you

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know we don't have it. No, no
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you always got to consider that.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll be

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talking more about that
incurring the keeper there's a

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lot more to it but that was that
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travel. And just man it was so
great that so many people who

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have been around so long even
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one and only Jeff Smith. So it
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John C Dvorak: urging a lot of
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Adam Curry: You're just possibly
the worst human being.

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John C Dvorak: Might as well get
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Adam Curry: you will be happy to
know we do have some donations

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which we'll be discussing. Oh,
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Now he's happy. Okay, so
everybody, here's the news for

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this morning in case you missed
it, it blowed up. Elon Musk's

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420 launch? Did you see

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John C Dvorak: this? Have you
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blowing up or glob

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Adam Curry: it would happen. It
just started tumbling when the

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the main thruster or booster was
supposed to separate and just

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starts turning and turning and
then the whole thing you know,

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lights up on fire. It was great.
Because Jean, you know, he's

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He's crazy about this. I mean,
he wants to live with Elon and

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Sir gene. And so he's texted me.
Oh, yeah. Well, a few minutes

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ago, and I'm getting the show
ready, and then he's text me

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blast off. And then I don't hear
anything from him. And then I

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get the clip start coming in.
Here's an example of that

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there's the starship itself and
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the booster had those 33 engines
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They were supposed to separate
where that booster is done it

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goes back to Earth and and then
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go but that separation between
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not happen. And so then it is
tumbling as both pieces together

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tumbling around and clearly with
the engines led to explosions on

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the vehicle. You know some I
mean I'm sure everyone is really

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is disappointed in some ways,
but this is very much a test.

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And this starship project takes
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reason because it's the ship
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the biggest goal for them was to
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launch pad so the launch pad pad
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because they have they have

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but now this was a development
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Adam Curry: Listen to that
listen to how the message is

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changing here. Even with the
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them because they cleared the
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absolutely you know everything
ready to go sensor systems you

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know all those kinds of things.
All those things went well

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leaving the launchpad but what's
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the launchpad it sounds silly
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John C Dvorak: Rocky and I got
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this is their their modus
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Adam Curry: No, I don't I don't
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that's no one. operate. Who

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John C Dvorak: is this
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Adam Curry: She's a she's a
Space X. spokeswoman. This is an

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. But oh, no,
she's terrible. Fire her.

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Adam Curry: Maybe this is maybe
it isn't her. Maybe this is

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anchor Katie. No, I think this
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John C Dvorak: she apologizing
for the company she's

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Adam Curry: the ABC space girl

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to fail to basically, fail often
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steps and see if you can leap
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know, tiny step by tiny step. A
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launch. They have vehicles ready
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boosters, ready to put on that
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soon, but that's what's
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thinks is. You know, let's let's
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Adam Curry: SpaceX thinks
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John C Dvorak: No, they want to
blow things up because you learn

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Adam Curry: I mean, I'm 60 years
ago, we went to the moon

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remember? How come Elon can't do
it? What because he wants to

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take big steps but not big
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replicate that is almost 60
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of playing into my theory. If
you don't mind me saying, What's

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your theory? We never went to
the moon. Like you don't know my

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John C Dvorak: Well, you have a
ton of theories I thought you're

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gonna talk about using water as
gasoline.

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Adam Curry: Meanwhile, they keep
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Pentagon has revealed it's now

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tracking more than 650 potential
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phenomena, or UAS, commonly
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significantly from 350 reports
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but official stress they found
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Arrow has found no credible
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reported to arrow demonstrate
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clutter natural phenomena or

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video of an object behaving in a
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this is the heat signature off
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aircraft that happened to be
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showing a small orb spotted near
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resolve because there's only
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new scrutiny in the months after
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down off South Carolina. And now
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US intelligence report, China
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spy drone capable of flying at
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officials fear it could be used
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government official who
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enthusiast not to just post
images on social media, but to

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submit them to scientists for
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Adam Curry: submit them to
science for research.

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John C Dvorak: I love that
little ball that shot underneath

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that one under one movie. Which
one is your thing? No. This is a

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new dama de orb.

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Adam Curry: Oh, the tic tac
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John C Dvorak: was a tic tac I
don't know what they were sure

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they had some buddy shooting a I
think from I don't know from a

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satellite or something they know
they're following some drone and

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into this little Mall. A cute
little round chrome ball go

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shooting across the screen.
Project Blue Beam. There we go.

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Adam Curry: So I've learned a
new term, which I think we

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should incorporate it can be
exclusive to the no agenda show

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it came from one of our
producers. Who says you and John

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as usual have done a better job
than anyone else at outlining a

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classic dangle up. A dangle up.
Wow. Yeah. I said, you put in

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all the right clips to show this
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John C Dvorak: Was it dangle?
Well, a dangle

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Adam Curry: a debt well read on
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becomes appropriate. In the old
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only against our adversaries. I
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adversaries. adversary. Thank
you. I guess there's more like

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what Whitney Webb would call a
limited Hangout, but maybe the

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real term, maybe the real term
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to think that sounds a lot from
from from one of our patients

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John C Dvorak: like he's working
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Adam Curry: Yes, I will read on
the tactics here appeared to

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have more to do with bureaucrat
bureaucratic score settling than

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policy with some political
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cover your ass on Ukraine. It's
not just pushing some form of

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the Restrict act. Or it could it
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boys and Ford meeting at Langley
from my times in Southwest Asia

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and Southern Africa and Central
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John C Dvorak: Okay, no slouch,
whoever it is already,

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Adam Curry: was to never
underestimate their ability to

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confuse mission with
bureaucratic achieve

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advancement. This dangle up is
beautiful. It helps to fight if

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even if not successful, the
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provides a counter to the
Ukraine narrative which is

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falling apart at least
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White House get nailed but who
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obviously CIA now they're

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John C Dvorak: they're good to
go. And I angle up i layers our

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Adam Curry: right off the bat. I
really like this and taking that

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in mind and of

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John C Dvorak: course we're
always just comes to mind

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dangling, dangling you know,
carrot, it's like dangling some

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shiny object you dangle it? Yes.
Correct. That's and you get

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attracted to that whatever is
being dangled, you go, Oh,

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what's that? And then you keep
walking

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Adam Curry: towards a shiny
object.

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John C Dvorak: It's a shiny
object, and we're walking

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towards it because it's shiny.

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Adam Curry: So what I've noticed
is and again, you know, you're

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gonna send me all the papers
that you've seen, but I still

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haven't. No, I

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John C Dvorak: didn't. I never
said that. You said you've seen

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so much and it's all I've seen
them. It doesn't mean I got it.

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to send you okay, I have not
seen

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Adam Curry: all the things that
are being discussed. So as a

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dangle op, I completely agree
with our, our operative in this

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case that this is this is going
this is an operation that you

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can shove anything into we kind
of, as we said he gave he

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complimented us, you guys
figured it out. In fact, did you

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know that the no agenda show is
the best podcast in the

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universe? It's in the leaked
documents. It was also in the

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Mueller report,

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John C Dvorak: if you recall.
Yeah. Well, we know that I

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didn't know is in the lead. Yes.
But yes, now that you mentioned

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it.

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Adam Curry: And who discovered
all this? Who found this kid?

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This said, Oh, we got some
great. We have so many cool

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producers. I have

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John C Dvorak: a bunch of notes,
too. As lot of it. I want to

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throw one out there right away,
which is that somebody claims

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that I disparaged the National
Guard

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Adam Curry: do I don't think you
did.

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John C Dvorak: Well, what I said
was I thought that that because

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he was in the National Guard or
whatever he was the you know,

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the reserves. Now, he was not as
good as a full time Air Force

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guy. And I said it in such a way
that it was disparaging to one

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of our National Guard listeners.

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Adam Curry: No, I think that's
just people being sensitive

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because they they get that crap
all the time. Oh, you're

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National Guard. You're not real.
Even though even though they

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deployed more

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John C Dvorak: there, there was
get shipped. Go to

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Adam Curry: Ukraine. Exactly.
Hey, wait

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John C Dvorak: a minute. I'm not
real. What am I doing here?

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Adam Curry: One of our former
law enforcement officers from

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California wrote in and said the
federal raid on the leaker with

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the SWAT team, having the
suspect turn around and walk

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backwards, is obvious. The FBI
was told to make a big show of

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force in an effort to dissuade
any future leakers. This was

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just a show of force pre planned
and intentional. The news being

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aware was part of it. The news
helicopter, the tactics of how

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the suspect was handled is
commonly known as high risk or

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felony contact, where the cops
don't go and engage the subs the

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suspect. Instead, they make them
walk backwards towards them. The

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point being to gauge the
suspects level of cooperation

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and allow the officers the
greatest advantage to a

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potentially dangerous person was
this necessary? No, especially

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since this was a nonviolent
crime, digital crime. But again,

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this was a sledgehammer response
used specifically to send a

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message that they are serious.
And don't try this or this could

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be you know, I disagree with
that. To me, this is all

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theater. And I think we pretty
much deconstructed on 1547 that

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this is being used for anything
that they need to throw out

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there. And it's when I hear this
piece this is from this was Josh

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Rogan from the Wall Street
Journal, Wall Street Journal who

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discovered this, if you recall,
Josh Rogan, er O G I N. I, I

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have a feeling that the Wall
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because when you hear I've never
heard a reporter from the Wall

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Street Journal doing the rounds,
but now he is. And here's

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another little tidbit that he
picked up from the leaked

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documents which I have not seen.
Other than that we are the best

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podcast in the universe. And I
think this is being used, in

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this case by military industrial
complex or the money people

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money people to get more money
because China

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Unknown: and there's the stuff
that we should have known about

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this is what I recorded on land
that China has tested a new

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hypersonic missile that can
defeat our aircraft carriers and

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our missile defense. In other
words, we spent 30 years

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building aircraft carriers and
missile defense, and the Chinese

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built a missile for 100 1000s of
the price that makes those

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things. Absolutely that seems
kind of important for people to

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know, why were we hiding that?
That was in the documents, I

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brought that out? I think that
there's a lot of stuff in the

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documents that American people
should know, because it reveals

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that the world is changing fast
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Adam Curry: listen to them.
Listen, here's the pitch.

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difference. Because usually I

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would say, hey, we don't need to
release everything that they

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have knowing that what they
have, but I think there is if

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you hit it on the head, there is
a need for the American people

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to understand the world is about
to dramatically change. And the

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United States is sitting around
with its hands in its pockets.

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Adam Curry: shouldn't I think
Glenn Beck has also been read in

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action have him set this up.
Okay, build

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and maybe we should build the

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stuff that fights hypersonics
because that's what our enemies

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are shooting at us. Okay,
correct. And okay, how far to

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these missiles fly and they're,
they're hypersonic, which I've

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just heard last week or the week
before that. We now have one but

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I don't know if I believe that.
This is a hypersonic which makes

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it almost impossible to take
down. Right? Right. It's

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hypersonic, which means it flies
faster than sound, but it's also

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hypersonic. The line, which
means you can maneuver it. So

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when we shoot up the missile
defense, all we have to do is

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maneuver around it. And we can
also move, they can also

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maneuver it to hit our aircraft
carriers, basically as far as

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Guam, as the Pacific is now, you
know, no entry for our aircraft

445
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carriers if they decide to use
these things, that's a huge

446
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problem for Taiwan, but not just
for the entire south. They're

447
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basically taking over Asia while
we're sleeping. Okay, and now,

448
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I'm not saying that we should
buy hypersonic missiles to fight

449
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hypersonic missiles. I'm saying
that we should buy the things or

450
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build the things that defend
against hypersonic missiles. And

451
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so it's complicated and you have
to think ahead of your opponent,

452
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but right now they're thinking
ahead of us.

453
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Adam Curry: It doesn't matter.
He's just saying we need to we

454
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need to spend the money spend
money. And by

455
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John C Dvorak: the way, his
little commentary there

456
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hypersonic is flying faster than
the speed of sound is not

457
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hypersonic. I mean, you think
he'd have the kind of lingo

458
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that's hypersonic specifically
means five times the speed of

459
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sound, right?

460
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Adam Curry: Supersonic is faster
than the speed of sound is one

461
00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:06,240
time, right? Yeah, it would be.
So CBS obviously they're they're

462
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,060
all in on it because they are
the CIA broadcasting systems and

463
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:11,010
pixie girl is is reporting

464
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440
Unknown: Catherine herridge has
an update on the case,

465
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handcuffed as he entered the
Boston court. 21 year old Jack

466
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tech serum now charged under the
Espionage Act stared into space

467
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since the Air National Guardsmen
was arrested by heavily armed

468
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federal agents outside his
mother's Massachusetts home.

469
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Bipartisan outrage has built on
Capitol Hill over the leaked

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Pentagon records posted online.
Today, a private briefing by the

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nation's top intelligence
official seem to raise more

472
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questions.

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I certainly wasn't satisfied
with any plans they have in

474
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place to prevent this from
happening in the future. I think

475
00:26:45,719 --> 00:26:50,189
a lot of us wondered, you know,
our 21 year old airman

476
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gets access to all of this
information yet a top secret

477
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clearance.

478
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traveling overseas defense
secretary Osteen did have

479
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extraordinary access and
computer privileges because of

480
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his military job.

481
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This young man was a systems
administrators dude. Yeah, he

482
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was a computer specialists that
that worked in an intelligence

483
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unit.

484
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Now that era National Guard
intelligence wings mission is

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suspended as government
investigators.

486
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,920
Adam Curry: How does that work
though, so they just shut down

487
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,040
the guys who were admitting
stuff has just been stopped.

488
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It's over. It's done. Your

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Unknown: National Guard
intelligence wings mission is

490
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suspended. As government
investigators probe the

491
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potential damage to sources and
methods like human spies and

492
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wiretaps.

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The breadth of the information
that's been leaked is

494
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problematic. Former senior

495
00:27:40,770 --> 00:27:44,040
counterintelligence official
Bill Evelina told CBS News

496
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declassified records will
undergo a painstaking review.

497
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They're going line by line
through these documents as part

498
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:51,960
of the damage assessment line by
line

499
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and we look to agency who
provided that information or

500
00:27:54,990 --> 00:27:58,260
multiple agencies look at it
with their experts to deliver to

501
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say what was in there and where
do we get it from?

502
00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,440
Adam Curry: I'm just not seeing
all these documents. I'm hearing

503
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,330
reports about it. I mean, if it
was out on the internet, where

504
00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:13,530
is it? I just am not seeing all
of this stuff. I didn't see any

505
00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:20,340
intel about Chinese hypersonic
missiles. I have not seen that.

506
00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:23,220
And for ABC. They have not
somebody

507
00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:24,360
John C Dvorak: saw him but not
you.

508
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:28,560
Adam Curry: That's what I mean.
Yeah, people would always send

509
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,560
this stuff to me always and I've
asked for it since the last show

510
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,680
nothing I'm just not seeing all
this

511
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:36,900
John C Dvorak: mess trying to
get you some snow. Okay, okay.

512
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,900
You're not making a promise.

513
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,980
Adam Curry: Okay, just fine. The
Chinese missile stuff the

514
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:46,590
hypersonic missile, then I'll be
happy. I don't think I don't

515
00:28:46,590 --> 00:28:49,920
think it's out there. Here's ABC
they have nothing they're not

516
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,720
reading. So what are we gonna do

517
00:28:51,780 --> 00:28:54,570
Unknown: this morning? There's
word that a pro Russian blogger

518
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:58,350
theta t ro role in the spreading
of classified documents so

519
00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:01,740
Adam Curry: we got a Russian
thing. What is that? Oh, and

520
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:03,330
we're not doing that that game
anymore,

521
00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:06,270
Unknown: allegedly leaked by a
young Air National Guardsmen in

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Massachusetts. According to The
Wall Street Journal. On April 5.

523
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:12,990
A social media again, Wall
Street Journal with a name

524
00:29:12,990 --> 00:29:17,130
translating to the Donbass girl
posted four of the allegedly

525
00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:21,690
leaked classified documents to
its 65,000 followers. The Wall

526
00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:25,020
Street Journal says that social
media account is overseen by a

527
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former US Navy officer in
Washington State.

528
00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:33,090
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. The
Donbass girl is not real. It's

529
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overseen by someone in
Washington State. Did I

530
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,970
understand that properly?

531
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,030
John C Dvorak: I don't really
know anything about the Donbass

532
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,290
girl. Yeah, she's

533
00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:47,070
Adam Curry: been around posting
stuff. That's the one who's kept

534
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:48,810
showing up and then she was
dead. And then she was a

535
00:29:48,810 --> 00:29:50,400
teacher, I think is not the one.

536
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:54,600
John C Dvorak: I like I said I
don't remember but the Donbass

537
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:54,960
girl

538
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Unknown: posted four of the
allegedly leaked classified

539
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,860
documents to its 65 1000
followers. The Wall Street

540
00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:05,310
Journal says that social media
account is overseen by a former

541
00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:09,120
US Navy officer in Washington
State, whose actions reportedly

542
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,080
prompted several large Russian
social media accounts to pick up

543
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:16,920
on the documents. ABC News has
not confirmed the journals

544
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,550
reporting

545
00:30:18,869 --> 00:30:21,299
John C Dvorak: was just a girl
who has grabbed as many

546
00:30:21,299 --> 00:30:24,509
documents as you can, and posted
them or shipped them to Russia.

547
00:30:24,899 --> 00:30:28,109
I have no idea. I know there's
was something like that going

548
00:30:28,109 --> 00:30:30,539
on. Do you think there's any
chance that the Wall Street

549
00:30:30,539 --> 00:30:33,809
Journal getting all this stuff
and that there might be some

550
00:30:33,809 --> 00:30:37,439
quid pro quo between News Corp
and the fact that they settled a

551
00:30:37,439 --> 00:30:40,889
Dominion suit? Oh, yeah. And now
they get to they have to do this

552
00:30:40,889 --> 00:30:44,819
as penance or there's some some
Hanky Panky going on about that.

553
00:30:46,049 --> 00:30:49,739
Interesting. it's any
coincidence that the Dominion

554
00:30:49,739 --> 00:30:54,269
suit Yeah, I use the word
advisedly. Yeah. Any coincidence

555
00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:57,179
that the that the suit was
settled, but meanwhile, the Wall

556
00:30:57,179 --> 00:31:00,959
Street Journal's staging for the
Pentagon for all these stories?

557
00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:05,340
Adam Curry: There are no
coincidences in intelligence. Or

558
00:31:05,340 --> 00:31:08,880
in government probably. Yeah,
that I'm not quite sure how the

559
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,380
quid pro quo works is still out.
$787 million,

560
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:18,630
John C Dvorak: or are they? Oh,
Mm hmm.

561
00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:23,640
Adam Curry: MSNBC is really
pathetic if you thought ABC was

562
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:29,910
bad. Jen Psaki inside with Jen
Sokka she's the worst she has

563
00:31:29,910 --> 00:31:30,180
not.

564
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:34,470
John C Dvorak: Rotary on banning
her now good. Probably

565
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:37,680
Adam Curry: a good idea. The
ratings have halved since the

566
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,490
spectacular launch of the show,
because everyone sampled it. And

567
00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:41,790
when

568
00:31:42,689 --> 00:31:46,499
John C Dvorak: a likable person,
you know, TV people, especially

569
00:31:46,499 --> 00:31:49,799
the women, the women, they have
to be likable.

570
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,650
Adam Curry: Yes, she's not
cheap. But it's also not just

571
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,870
the likability it's just dumb

572
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:56,610
Unknown: look for the country
that cologne

573
00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:59,550
Adam Curry: when did it Why does
this have? Why is? Why do I only

574
00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:02,460
have one channel from YouTube?
Sokhi. Hold on second. I want to

575
00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:09,210
do this. Sorry, I had no idea.
See what happened? Oh, no, it's

576
00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:10,050
only one channel

577
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,990
Unknown: classified information
could be shared by a 21 year old

578
00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:17,130
kid who simply wanted to show
off. But you know, what else is

579
00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:21,750
a bad look, when a 76 year old
former president is suspected of

580
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:24,780
doing something pretty similar?
Oh, no.

581
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,580
Adam Curry: This week. She's
saying that it's a bad look.

582
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:33,510
When it 20 Something we've heard
this contest consistently. Yeah,

583
00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:34,860
John C Dvorak: I think we've
heard it to death.

584
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,970
Adam Curry: Does this and you
know shows off the documents.

585
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:42,270
He's, he's stolen. But you know,
it's even worse than

586
00:32:42,270 --> 00:32:45,780
Unknown: a 76 year old former
president is suspected of doing

587
00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:49,260
something pretty similar. This
week, the New York Times

588
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,390
revealed that the Special
Counsel in the MAR a Lago

589
00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:55,080
documents case is investigating,
quote whether former President

590
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,490
Trump showed off to aides and
visitors a map with him when he

591
00:32:59,490 --> 00:33:02,550
left office, a map that contains
sensitive intelligence

592
00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:04,170
information. We don't know what
that map is up.

593
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,420
Adam Curry: But it's sensitive
intelligence information. We'll

594
00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:09,600
Unknown: know. Similar reporting
from the Washington Post that

595
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,450
investigators are scrutinizing
whether Trump's share classified

596
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:16,410
documents with political donors
with political donors maybe to

597
00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:19,770
show off to them so. And it
comes after the post also

598
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:23,100
revealed that the FBI found
highly classified nuclear

599
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:29,550
secrets pertaining to graft. Who
knows what exactly or how much

600
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,220
information he might have shared
or with whom we don't know that?

601
00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:35,160
Yeah, there's clearly a lot we
don't know. But even at this

602
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,300
early gen juncture, all of this
begs the question of whether

603
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:43,170
Donald Trump will be held to the
same standard as a 21 year old

604
00:33:43,290 --> 00:33:44,730
Air National Guardsmen.

605
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,090
Adam Curry: It's not it's not
even a good outrage story. I

606
00:33:48,090 --> 00:33:49,290
mean, it's not good

607
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:52,170
John C Dvorak: at all. She's no
good, but this day gave her the

608
00:33:52,170 --> 00:33:54,390
bottom of the barrel writers.
Yes.

609
00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:58,170
Adam Curry: Yes, I think you're
right. I mean, that's all they

610
00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:00,180
had was that that's all they
could do.

611
00:34:00,689 --> 00:34:03,719
John C Dvorak: Pa, she's
probably not a good person to

612
00:34:03,719 --> 00:34:08,009
work with him to kind of fiery
redhead. So she probably already

613
00:34:08,009 --> 00:34:11,549
badgered the writers. I mean, I
can just see that back that back

614
00:34:11,789 --> 00:34:13,079
room. Yeah, they wouldn't get to
do

615
00:34:13,799 --> 00:34:15,569
Adam Curry: you mentioned that
earlier. You think she's just

616
00:34:15,569 --> 00:34:18,869
not nice to the to the people
she works with? She

617
00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:23,670
John C Dvorak: seems that way.
She's got that duplicitous

618
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:27,300
smile. You know, that little
that little I hear. I'm gonna

619
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:33,630
fix you eventually. Smile. She
doesn't seem like a nice person.

620
00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:40,200
She snaps Yeah. i And she's not
a good host. She's made not

621
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,100
welcoming.

622
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,260
Adam Curry: I bet she she did.
She's made some enemies along

623
00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:48,450
the way to know what I mean. I
could be I think so. I think

624
00:34:48,450 --> 00:34:54,570
she's probably made some good
enemies. Okay. I see kind of the

625
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:57,360
topics you have. So I'm going to
do one that you don't have. And

626
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,020
then this is I think this is
better. In the news is

627
00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:06,390
artificial intelligence. Oh my
oh my oh my

628
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,590
John C Dvorak: I've got a one
clip. Oh clips on that. I do.

629
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:12,810
Okay, but they're teasers
because I

630
00:35:14,009 --> 00:35:16,829
Adam Curry: was too teasers. I
got stuff. Oh, okay.

631
00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:19,260
John C Dvorak: Well, let's
listen to Scott Pelley. No,

632
00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:23,760
that's stupid 60 minutes report
that everyone was all all over.

633
00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:27,810
I just want to play a couple of
his opening remarks to show you

634
00:35:27,810 --> 00:35:32,850
what an dumb report and an idiot
this guy is. And I will do a

635
00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:36,840
complete deconstruction of that
on the Sunday show. Good. We may

636
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,830
Unknown: look on our time, as
the moment civilization was

637
00:35:40,830 --> 00:35:46,530
transformed as it was by fire,
agriculture and electricity. In

638
00:35:46,530 --> 00:35:51,420
2023, we learned that a machine
taught itself how to speak to

639
00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:56,640
humans like appear, which is to
say with creativity, truth,

640
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,440
error and lies.

641
00:35:58,709 --> 00:36:04,979
Adam Curry: No, no. Okay. Wow,
she just throw up on relativity

642
00:36:04,979 --> 00:36:06,749
no less. Whoo. Yeah. And

643
00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:10,410
John C Dvorak: lies. Idiot
number two clip

644
00:36:10,620 --> 00:36:13,560
Unknown: is only one of the
recent breakthroughs in

645
00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:17,550
artificial intelligence machines
that can teach themselves

646
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:19,470
superhuman skills. No.

647
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:22,950
John C Dvorak: Okay, what's the
suit? What? What in your mind?

648
00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:25,980
This could have been an ask
Adam, what are your mind is

649
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:32,100
superhuman? What is superhuman?
flying faster than a jet planes

650
00:36:32,130 --> 00:36:37,020
or speeding bullet? Speeding
Bullet X wrapping vision

651
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:37,620
stopping a

652
00:36:37,620 --> 00:36:39,390
Adam Curry: moving train? X
rays,

653
00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:42,420
John C Dvorak: stopping a movie
train? X ray vision?

654
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:45,330
Adam Curry: Yes, I would say X
ray vision is good. I mean, if

655
00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:48,960
you could do large sums in your
head, maybe but computers do

656
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,410
that. And the only thing that's
new here is these these LLM 's

657
00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:59,010
baby you know I'm sure there's
an LLM that's good for our

658
00:36:59,010 --> 00:37:01,800
organization. You got to talk
like that. Now large language

659
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440
models. That's what all the
marketing kids are talking about

660
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,350
the big lol. It's bull.

661
00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:10,710
John C Dvorak: I would not I
would have done this whole thing

662
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:13,530
that I'm going to do on Sunday
today if I hadn't gotten so many

663
00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:16,080
clips on one other topic, which
I think is more important and

664
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:24,090
more newsworthy. But this report
included, was based on a ton of

665
00:37:24,090 --> 00:37:29,910
lies. The Silicon Valley guys
have buffaloed people like Scott

666
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:32,340
Pelley who haven't got a clue.
And they had

667
00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:36,420
Adam Curry: Carlson who go on
Tucker Carlson also no clue.

668
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,910
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Tucker
Carlson would be clueless. And I

669
00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:43,890
will take the idea that there is
the other thing I could have

670
00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:46,500
done. I'm gonna do a lot of
stuff I keep promising. I don't

671
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:51,570
do it. But I'm going to do this.
I'm going to take the Elon Musk

672
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:56,490
interview with Tucker in and cut
it up. So it makes sense.

673
00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:59,130
Adam Curry: I do have one clip
from it today.

674
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,100
John C Dvorak: I won't bother me
at all.

675
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,170
Adam Curry: So just just to hit
the top line. I mean, what has

676
00:38:07,170 --> 00:38:10,380
happened here is Silicon Valley
has unleashed they're cracking

677
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:13,650
the UNLEASH THE KRAKEN moment to
raise capital in a declining

678
00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:16,800
advertising market and a
profitable possible larger than

679
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:21,900
ever thought recession. And, and
all of a sudden, oops, there was

680
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:26,160
chat GPT a got away from Elon.
He wasn't he wasn't he was he

681
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,360
had his eye off the ball, I
think. And then this Sam Altman

682
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:30,510
is

683
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,590
John C Dvorak: Sam Altman is the
FTX guy.

684
00:38:35,399 --> 00:38:39,599
Adam Curry: No. Is it Sam
Altman? No, no, no, no, that's

685
00:38:39,749 --> 00:38:40,949
now you're confusing me.

686
00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:43,050
John C Dvorak: Now Sam Friedman.

687
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,400
Adam Curry: That's bagman fried.
Yes. Bank man

688
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,720
John C Dvorak: fried fried
whatever. Like fries. Sounds

689
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,520
better, because he's going to

690
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,270
Adam Curry: so ALTMAN I think
it's Altman you know, he he

691
00:38:57,270 --> 00:39:02,100
basically launches this, this
marketing ploy, which is just

692
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:06,210
dynamite was a genius. And you
know, as we all know it and

693
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:08,640
everyone's running around, all
the consultants are going oh,

694
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,200
it's horrible. But they're
desperate for, for a business

695
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,720
model. I have not heard a
business model yet. No one's

696
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,600
gonna pay for this. But yeah, of
course,

697
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:22,500
John C Dvorak: you know, I had
just mentioned this. So in the

698
00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:28,950
60 minutes piece, one of the
guys they bring in their AI guy,

699
00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:32,940
not AI nut. No, he says he had
to do this and that to get into

700
00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:35,790
Google, he says, because what I
really want to do is get into

701
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:38,820
and then they wrote, they do a
voiceover say he wanted to get

702
00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:43,980
into the Google, they showed one
of the data centers. And it was

703
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:48,180
this dataset, this monstrous
data center that was cost a

704
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:54,600
fortune to operate, where Barfi
exists. Also, guess all I'm

705
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,800
gonna stick with your theory on
this. This is too expensive,

706
00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:00,990
Adam Curry: and they have no
business Model people will have

707
00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:03,360
to pay for it if they want to
use it and they're gonna have to

708
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,110
pay a lot. And there's the
there's seemingly no way. I

709
00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:10,350
mean, it's not like they're
gathering your most intimate

710
00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:14,010
thoughts. You know, you're
saying, hey, write me some code,

711
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:19,080
write me a thesis write me this.
Make me oh, do a photo. This is

712
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,980
a beautiful story.

713
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:22,830
Unknown: Now a fierce debate has
been sparked in the world of

714
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:26,400
photography after an artist
entered a photo competition with

715
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,990
an image generated by artificial
intelligence, and won. The image

716
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:35,580
shows two women which do not
exist and was entered into the

717
00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:39,030
creative category of the Sony
world photography awards by

718
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:43,230
German artists, Boris and
Jackson. Jackson has refused the

719
00:40:43,230 --> 00:40:46,890
prize and said he submitted the
image to find out if

720
00:40:46,890 --> 00:40:52,440
competitions would be prepared
for AI images to enter

721
00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:54,780
Adam Curry: now, so they have
this guy on a moment. Have you

722
00:40:54,780 --> 00:41:00,120
seen this picture? No. Oh, go
look for the Sony photo award.

723
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:03,960
You'll see these two women, it
people were sending it to me,

724
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:09,300
you know, like kgs. And it was
said to me kg saying, Do you

725
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,240
think what do you think of this
photo? I'm like, well, that's

726
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:15,840
obviously a I look at the
fingers. The left hand is like

727
00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:19,650
her thumb is upside down. Hello.
Look at the woman behind her

728
00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:22,740
face. It's obviously AI
generated at that point. I

729
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:26,670
didn't know that Sony had given
it the award, the award for best

730
00:41:26,670 --> 00:41:34,080
photo. So that says something
about the Sony judges for this

731
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,590
competition. But this this is a
nonstory, you look at this thing

732
00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:38,640
you see it right away

733
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,860
John C Dvorak: with a woman and
a woman behind her. And it's

734
00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:41,760
like, Yes,

735
00:41:41,850 --> 00:41:44,430
Adam Curry: look at it. Look at
the hand on the on her. Oh

736
00:41:44,430 --> 00:41:48,030
John C Dvorak: my god, the hand
on the left to her or I'm sorry,

737
00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:52,740
her right hand and the woman
behind is deformed. And how

738
00:41:52,740 --> 00:41:56,310
about the other hand is coming
off from some place in the in

739
00:41:56,310 --> 00:41:57,900
another town and

740
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:01,650
Adam Curry: the thumb of her
left of her left hand is on the

741
00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:05,130
bottom. I see this right away.

742
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,140
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, you're
right.

743
00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:09,720
Unknown: Looks like they were
not and the artists behind that

744
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,140
picture joins me now. Boris L
Jackson, welcome to the day. Now

745
00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:16,230
it's being reported that you
revealed that the picture you

746
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:20,910
submitted was a I generated but
you were pretty upfront about it

747
00:42:20,910 --> 00:42:23,640
ever since you found out you
were selected, weren't you?

748
00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:27,450
Yes, of course, it was not about
winning anything. It was making

749
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:32,940
a test, trying to find out if
the competition is prepared. And

750
00:42:32,940 --> 00:42:36,870
my mission was to create
awareness for that, that we need

751
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:39,960
to keep this in mind in the for
the community that it is going

752
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,620
to happen. It's going to happen
on a much, much larger scale in

753
00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:44,160
the future.

754
00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:48,420
How did the organizers of the
event react when you told them

755
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:51,690
the picture was in fact not a
photograph?

756
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:56,580
I offered them they could like
give it to someone else. But if

757
00:42:56,580 --> 00:42:59,190
they don't, it would be good to
have an open conversation for

758
00:42:59,190 --> 00:43:02,220
the public. Because it is
something that is pressuring the

759
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:05,160
football community. Their
response was thought they were

760
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,640
saying you can keep it and that
was it. There was no response to

761
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,310
my offer of having a discussion
or conversation

762
00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:13,800
Adam Curry: right so they're so
embarrassed as they should be

763
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,850
because anyway

764
00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:20,310
John C Dvorak: I'm disagreeing
This is a scam. Do not

765
00:43:20,310 --> 00:43:23,130
embarrassed this was all done
for publicity. I never heard of

766
00:43:23,130 --> 00:43:27,390
this competition before now I've
heard of it. This is bogus. That

767
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:31,380
picture just just for I don't
care if the thumbs here or there

768
00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:35,250
anyplace else that picture
sucks. It's not a ward winning

769
00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:36,090
photo.

770
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:41,550
Adam Curry: Well, I'm in
agreement on that too. Yeah. Oh,

771
00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:41,730
it's

772
00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:43,560
John C Dvorak: not an award
winning for this is the best A

773
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,740
good practice is pretty piss
poor the best they could do. I

774
00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:49,980
think Sony was in on this this
is the whole thing was is is a

775
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:54,360
Dipsy do it's bullcrap. Very
positive publicity stunt. Oh,

776
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,050
we're so embarrassed that we
were fooled. Bullcrap

777
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,870
Adam Curry: a Dipsy? Do Dipsy?
Do. Okay, so, here comes part of

778
00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:07,980
what I think is a real problem.
And what Silicon Valley is so

779
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:12,690
worried about are all going to
die. Now what's happening? Is

780
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,950
your eroding your existing
business model of stealing

781
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:21,330
people's content and charging
users to view it, listen to it,

782
00:44:21,330 --> 00:44:26,070
etc. And user generated content?
Well, yes, they're happy taking

783
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:28,710
the user generated content, but
when it comes to stuff that's

784
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:33,780
licensed, that they that Google
pays an enormous amount of money

785
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:37,290
to the record industry that
recorded music industry in

786
00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:42,540
licensing to be used on YouTube
and other other avenues as

787
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:45,720
doesn't matter that they
licensed that for their reels

788
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,270
you know, of course, that's what
tick tock is all about. This

789
00:44:48,270 --> 00:44:51,060
would have been part of what
made them great is having all

790
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:54,120
the license all the music
license for people to use, and

791
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,500
now it's like, oh,

792
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,260
Unknown: you know the name and
with 40 The number one hits

793
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:06,720
there's no mistaking superstar
Rihanna is voice either. But

794
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,530
this morning major concern in
the music industry as verbiage

795
00:45:10,530 --> 00:45:14,070
from artists like Rihanna, or
artificially being warped into

796
00:45:14,070 --> 00:45:17,490
songs they've never even
recorded, like Beyonce has hit

797
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,210
cuff it

798
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,920
this rendition featuring Rihanna
is voice made using artificial

799
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,850
intelligence

800
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,040
AI version going viral on social
media notching more than 6

801
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,060
million views on Twitter and
Rihanna isn't the only one. Some

802
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:48,960
artists like David Guetta, even
using AI themselves to add

803
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,090
surprises to their set lists.

804
00:45:51,150 --> 00:45:54,600
And that went to another AI
website that can

805
00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:55,890
John C Dvorak: recreate

806
00:45:56,490 --> 00:45:59,250
Unknown: the voice and put the
text in that

807
00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:04,320
the DJ playing an AI generated
sample of rapper m&ms voice in

808
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,820
front of a live audience.

809
00:46:06,030 --> 00:46:07,560
This is the future of rave
sounds.

810
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:10,800
I'm getting Austin and
underground. Get a clarifying on

811
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,700
Twitter. Obviously, I won't
release this commercially Drake

812
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:18,690
that up after this hit from
rapper ice spice you thought I

813
00:46:18,690 --> 00:46:23,130
was gonna use got a Drake remake
without his permission or an

814
00:46:23,130 --> 00:46:25,830
actual performance by him. He
thought I was gonna you know,

815
00:46:26,370 --> 00:46:30,450
Drake now calling it the final
straw. experts warned this

816
00:46:30,450 --> 00:46:34,080
technology could lead to major
legal battles. When you put up

817
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,190
a song whether it's on tick tock
or if you put it on through

818
00:46:38,190 --> 00:46:40,980
YouTube. Well, you're
distributing music, and then you

819
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:44,610
may be subject to copyright laws
or takedown policies from those

820
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:45,360
platforms.

821
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,590
Now Universal Music Group home
of artists like Katy Perry and

822
00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:53,820
Taylor Swift asking streaming
services to block AI companies

823
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:55,590
from accessing its music.

824
00:46:55,770 --> 00:46:59,010
I think what you're going to see
is the major labels and major

825
00:46:59,010 --> 00:47:02,520
label publishers come together
and put a lot of pressure on the

826
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,480
platforms to regulate AI
generated music, the major

827
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,560
labels and publishers spend so
much time effort money marketing

828
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,510
these artists, they want to make
sure that they're getting paid

829
00:47:12,510 --> 00:47:13,020
accordingly.

830
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that ship
has left as far as I'm

831
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,310
concerned. It's yeah, when it
comes to Silicon Valley, where

832
00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:22,740
they have no way to make money
off of this, and it's

833
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:26,640
cannibalizing their existing
lock on industry, because they

834
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,400
can afford the licenses and now
they're getting in trouble with

835
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,940
the license holders. And the
license holders are not happy.

836
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:37,410
And it also shows you how
pathetic This music is. This

837
00:47:37,410 --> 00:47:41,460
will auto tune that almost AI to
begin with, most of it is

838
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:45,240
pathetic. And notice that it's
not creating the new Beatles

839
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:49,860
band. It's not creating the new
nirvana. No, it's taking old

840
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:54,090
stuff, existing stuff existing
and putting a different artists

841
00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:57,360
voice over it. It's not anything
new and innovative. There's no

842
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,200
human creativity in here. But
all tell the kids about it as as

843
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,480
like they talk about on the
social and MA

844
00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:06,240
Unknown: are the artists rights

845
00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:07,860
in all of this. Now,

846
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,310
this is where it gets really
tricky. Because when you

847
00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:14,220
generate something, whether
that's a piece of art or a song,

848
00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:17,610
it's technically a new piece of
content. So if I asked for a

849
00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:20,790
song in the style of Ariana
Grande, it will make music that

850
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:24,510
sounds exactly like hers, but
it's not her music. And as it

851
00:48:24,510 --> 00:48:28,110
stands today, you can't
copyright a vibe or an essence.

852
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,950
So we might see some revisions
to copyright laws or some rules

853
00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:34,860
as to what can and can't get
included in training these

854
00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:38,070
systems. In fact, yesterday,
Universal Music put out a big

855
00:48:38,070 --> 00:48:40,680
statement that none of their
artists work can be used to

856
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,970
train AI systems.

857
00:48:42,090 --> 00:48:52,590
Adam Curry: Wow, wow. Wow, oh,
no, this it's just as bad as

858
00:48:52,590 --> 00:48:57,120
that photo. No, compile
something classical for me

859
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,380
something brand new, not in the
style of That's it. That's all

860
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:04,470
it can do is in the style of
Shakespeare in the style of this

861
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:08,100
in the style of Drake in the
style. He'd be up at Oh, in the

862
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:12,510
style, do a poem in the style of
John C. Dvorak. How many times

863
00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:15,450
if someone said that to you. So

864
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:19,260
John C Dvorak: there was a
lawsuit. I think it was in the

865
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:23,700
late 20s or 30s. And I think it
still stands around as precedent

866
00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:28,800
being Crosby. It's very well
known and immune. He was just

867
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,340
acting like

868
00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:33,060
Adam Curry: Crosby was
universally not liked.

869
00:49:34,350 --> 00:49:39,360
John C Dvorak: Bing Crosby sued
a guy who sounded exactly like

870
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,140
him. And he was picking up a lot
of voiceover work for

871
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:47,820
commercials and other things.
And Crosby won the suit. Really.

872
00:49:49,170 --> 00:49:52,410
And that kind of thing is still
valid. I think there's a lot of

873
00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:55,020
these things like you can't use
things for advertising. You

874
00:49:55,020 --> 00:49:59,100
know, you can't it's just a lot
of you can't put somebody's I

875
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:02,940
can't put your picture You're on
some advertisement for a car.

876
00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:03,090
I'm

877
00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:04,320
Adam Curry: no yes. No, no, you
can't.

878
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,410
John C Dvorak: So this is no
different. I don't see the

879
00:50:07,410 --> 00:50:11,190
difference. This is just, you
know, yeah. Okay, you can you

880
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:14,610
can find some that sounds just
like Ariana Grande to create

881
00:50:14,610 --> 00:50:18,390
some bogus song to if you want.
It's just a it's a it's a

882
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:19,770
tempest in a teapot.

883
00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:24,060
Adam Curry: Precisely. But the
from a rights perspective,

884
00:50:24,090 --> 00:50:26,400
there's going to be right
there's already several

885
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,080
lawsuits. Now Elon Musk is suing
Microsoft that saying, Whoa,

886
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,110
they illegally scraped Twitter
to train their AI Um, can you

887
00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:44,130
imagine the chat GPT 123 and
four, and auto GPT and all this

888
00:50:44,130 --> 00:50:50,040
GPT stuff has all been trained
on Twitter conversations. That's

889
00:50:50,070 --> 00:50:56,340
well, that's some solid data for
you. Though this is this is a

890
00:50:56,370 --> 00:50:59,550
John C Dvorak: helming lawsuit.
That's a dubious lawsuit.

891
00:50:59,610 --> 00:51:02,700
Adam Curry: But this is a Hail
Mary from Silicon Valley. And

892
00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:08,550
and the the main plan. Elon Musk
shows is true. Barnum Bailey,

893
00:51:08,550 --> 00:51:13,320
self PT Barnum self, because as
I'm so convinced this guy

894
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,030
doesn't know what he's talking
about. He's just a marketing

895
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:19,230
guy. When he talked to Tucker,
about this about Larry Page and

896
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,520
or Larry, I don't talk anymore
because we had a dispute over AI

897
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,390
and I said it was dangerous. We
have to keep it open. And no man

898
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:31,080
you were boning his wife. We all
know what happened. That's why I

899
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:36,510
got in a fight. Remember that
little story? I Yes. No, yes,

900
00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:38,250
no. Now it was a I mean,

901
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:44,220
Unknown: the reason open AI
exists at all is that Larry

902
00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:46,170
Page, and I used to be close
friends, and I would stay at his

903
00:51:46,170 --> 00:51:49,800
house in Palo Alto. And I would
talk to him late into the night

904
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,680
about AI safety and AI safety.
At least my perception was that

905
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:01,650
Larry was not taking AI safety
seriously enough. And what did

906
00:52:01,650 --> 00:52:04,140
he say about it? He really
seemed to be hit out

907
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:09,060
Adam Curry: in my house. Get
off, my wife is going to say my

908
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:09,660
wife get

909
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:10,560
John C Dvorak: out of my house.

910
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:16,590
Unknown: She really seems to be
what it was once sort of digital

911
00:52:16,590 --> 00:52:19,170
super intelligence, basically
digital God, if you will,

912
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:22,320
Adam Curry: digital god. Yeah,
there it is.

913
00:52:22,890 --> 00:52:27,450
Unknown: As soon as possible.
wanted that? Yes. He's made many

914
00:52:27,450 --> 00:52:30,630
public statements over the
years. That the whole goal of

915
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:34,320
Google is what's called AGI
artificial general intelligence

916
00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:36,930
Adam Curry: and understand
something and helped me and

917
00:52:36,930 --> 00:52:40,560
we'll continue this in a minute.
If the whole goal of Google was

918
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,630
the digital guide, the general
artificial intelligence, why did

919
00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:48,900
Google scramble and have to
throw barf out there after

920
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:53,760
Microsoft basically did
something that was cute. I mean,

921
00:52:53,790 --> 00:52:57,630
wouldn't they be the leaders?
Would they have it already? And

922
00:52:57,630 --> 00:53:00,240
instead, they throw up something
that that missed

923
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,660
John C Dvorak: a long way they
threw together Google Plus?

924
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:06,960
Yeah, whether they would because
they're always late to the game.

925
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,150
And so yes, I'll tell you why.
Okay, because Musk is full of

926
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:13,200
crap about this.

927
00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:16,290
Unknown: Yeah. He's made many
public statements over the

928
00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:21,000
years. That's the whole goal of
Google is what's called AGI

929
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,700
artificial general intelligence
or artificial superintelligence.

930
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,180
No, and I agree with him that
there's great potential for

931
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:31,170
good, but there's also potential
for bad and so if you've got

932
00:53:31,170 --> 00:53:35,880
some radical new technology, you
want to try to take set actions

933
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,150
that maximize probably a bit
will do good and minimize

934
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:42,570
probably will do bad things.
Yes. It can't just be helpful.

935
00:53:42,570 --> 00:53:47,100
Others just go, you know,
barreling forward and hope for

936
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:50,880
the best and then at one point I
said, Well, what about you know,

937
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:52,710
we're gonna make sure humanity's
okay here.

938
00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:58,830
Adam Curry: Okay, what is this?
What is this? What is this

939
00:53:58,830 --> 00:54:01,110
laughing What is this? Autism

940
00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:03,240
John C Dvorak: is your scene
about a patient's wife.

941
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:06,960
Unknown: And then at one point I
said Well, what about you know,

942
00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:08,820
we're gonna make sure humanity's
okay here.

943
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:14,280
Adam Curry: I think you're
right, I think your case closed.

944
00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:22,110
Unknown: And they called me a
speciesist. use that term.

945
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:27,510
Adam Curry: Yes. Now, why is
this so hilarious? A specious,

946
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:30,990
meaning that he only likes
species or something you'd like

947
00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:31,290
to know

948
00:54:31,290 --> 00:54:34,710
John C Dvorak: specious.
specious is the is a term for

949
00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:39,180
for developing an argument as
bullcrap where he said he was a

950
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:43,410
speciesist voices he was a
specious yes as in speech, so

951
00:54:43,410 --> 00:54:46,620
they thought that was hilarious.
It's not funny at all. What it

952
00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:49,830
will specious, say being an
ageist.

953
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,930
Adam Curry: Species species,
okay. It's in here. Oh, that's

954
00:54:57,930 --> 00:55:01,290
the assumption of human
superiority. The leading to the

955
00:55:01,290 --> 00:55:06,390
exploitation of animals. People
who don't like animals,

956
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:10,830
John C Dvorak: humans who hate
animals, as they say humans who

957
00:55:10,830 --> 00:55:12,960
hate animals. Yeah. speciesist

958
00:55:14,759 --> 00:55:22,529
Adam Curry: species alternative?
Here's the Yeah, I keep

959
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,999
speciesism speciesism the
assumption of human superiority

960
00:55:26,999 --> 00:55:30,089
leading to the exploitation of
animal species definition by the

961
00:55:30,089 --> 00:55:31,949
Free Dictionary, let's do that.
That's

962
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:33,870
John C Dvorak: it. Well then has
that even fit into the

963
00:55:33,870 --> 00:55:36,150
conversation in contacting
tolerance

964
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:38,970
Adam Curry: or discrimination on
the basis of species, especially

965
00:55:38,970 --> 00:55:42,660
as manifested to cruelty to or
exploitation of animals by

966
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:45,060
humans? This is why I didn't
think it was funny.

967
00:55:46,290 --> 00:55:48,420
John C Dvorak: Why it doesn't
make sense. It's not only not

968
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:49,650
funny, maybe.

969
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:51,990
Unknown: And there were
witnesses. That wasn't the only

970
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:56,400
one there when he called his
wife. So I was like, okay,

971
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,570
that's, I've Yes, I'm a
speciesist. Okay, you got me.

972
00:56:02,070 --> 00:56:10,170
What do you got? Busted. So

973
00:56:11,730 --> 00:56:13,770
Adam Curry: he's got like, camel
has cackle problem.

974
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:18,420
Unknown: That was his last role
at the Google had acquired

975
00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:20,760
DeepMind. So Google and DeepMind
together had about three

976
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,820
quarters of all the AI talent in
the world. They obviously had

977
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:25,200
trust amount of money.

978
00:56:25,350 --> 00:56:28,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, so a question.
What happened to Deep Mind what

979
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:32,730
happened to Deep Blue? Remember
IBM? Oh, Deep Blue beat to the

980
00:56:32,730 --> 00:56:33,750
world chess champion.

981
00:56:33,899 --> 00:56:35,879
John C Dvorak: Oh, that was a
did it. It didn't need to do

982
00:56:35,879 --> 00:56:37,319
anything. Anyway, retired.

983
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,750
Adam Curry: Well, didn't they
create an entire business line

984
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:43,980
that went nowhere? And they had
to basically shelve it because

985
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,580
they wasn't worried Watson.
Watson. That's what it was

986
00:56:47,580 --> 00:56:52,560
Watson. The road the road to
Silicon Valley is littered work.

987
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,390
No. I mean,

988
00:56:54,839 --> 00:56:58,259
John C Dvorak: this Watson is
probably stems from the old 80s

989
00:56:58,259 --> 00:57:02,249
flop, AI flop and it's just a
new version of it. Yeah, only

990
00:57:02,249 --> 00:57:05,309
this one's gotten a little more
traction because it's cut

991
00:57:05,309 --> 00:57:08,309
everyone flat footed. I don't
know. This is the strangest

992
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:09,719
thing I've ever seen. Well, this

993
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:14,130
Adam Curry: reminds me a lot of
another canard. But I even went

994
00:57:14,130 --> 00:57:17,070
to Boston and stood in line to
get one of the first ones

995
00:57:17,070 --> 00:57:21,420
because this was it. He could
recognize your handwriting. You

996
00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:24,000
could understand what you want.
The Newton

997
00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:28,380
John C Dvorak: is a Newton, new
net new New Town. That's

998
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:30,480
probably what it should have
been called the Newton. I said

999
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,770
the Newton. No, as I said, new
town, the Newton. Well, hey,

1000
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,220
let's go along. Go back to
Google. Google Goggles Google

1001
00:57:38,220 --> 00:57:41,700
Glass, yes. Another great
product. Google Glasses.

1002
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,500
Everyone was wearing. Glasses.
Scoble was wearing him in the

1003
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:47,610
shower. This is why

1004
00:57:47,610 --> 00:57:49,530
Adam Curry: I keep telling you
when Scoble is all in on

1005
00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:52,380
something that means it's
bullcrap. And he is he's going

1006
00:57:52,380 --> 00:57:57,840
crazy with AI. It's the new god.
It'll help you kick your alcohol

1007
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,750
habit, your addiction. I mean,
he's saying all of that he's

1008
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:06,420
saying these things know, any.
Anybody who in the music

1009
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:10,170
business will hear. I mean, you
hear it, human beings can hear

1010
00:58:10,170 --> 00:58:16,080
when things are just not human.
They're just not human. I don't

1011
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,740
think any of these songs are
impressive. And that goes for a

1012
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,680
lot of this music in general.
I'm sure a musician may be able

1013
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:32,100
to use some so called AI to to
create something just like you

1014
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:36,060
can create some code. The end
some writing.

1015
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:39,660
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you can do
this. Yeah, you can do augment.

1016
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:43,410
Augment. Yeah. No one wants to
deal with the augmentation

1017
00:58:43,410 --> 00:58:46,980
aspect they think is going to be
standalone monster.

1018
00:58:47,340 --> 00:58:50,910
Adam Curry: I think augmented
intelligence is probably a

1019
00:58:50,910 --> 00:58:56,310
better term. Just like it was,
you know, virtual reality didn't

1020
00:58:56,310 --> 00:58:59,340
work. So then it was always
augmented reality. So you have

1021
00:58:59,340 --> 00:59:02,220
some stuff pasted over it.
That's exactly what this feels

1022
00:59:02,220 --> 00:59:06,630
like. Nothing at all. Like, like
we're being we're going to oh,

1023
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:09,510
we're all gonna like Scott
Pelley. Oh, we're all gonna die

1024
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:15,300
from the evil human machine. And
Elon Musk is in on this scam. He

1025
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:17,520
probably needs to raise some
money for it to

1026
00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:21,660
John C Dvorak: Elon Musk is in
on it for a different not

1027
00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:23,340
because he believes any of it.

1028
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:27,090
Adam Curry: No, I think he's not
because he needs to raise money

1029
00:59:27,090 --> 00:59:27,180
so

1030
00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:29,010
John C Dvorak: money there's
money Money money money this

1031
00:59:29,010 --> 00:59:30,270
guy's good. Yes,

1032
00:59:30,359 --> 00:59:37,019
Adam Curry: I agree much as much
as Money money money. I love the

1033
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:41,639
love the story about the Apple
basically beating Elon to the

1034
00:59:41,639 --> 00:59:45,449
punch. To remember Elon he's
building x.com And everyone's

1035
00:59:45,449 --> 00:59:48,659
gonna put their money into x.com
They're gonna get interest or

1036
00:59:48,659 --> 00:59:50,969
they can if they want go
negative interest, which is also

1037
00:59:50,969 --> 00:59:54,329
known as a loan and they will be
able to pay each other all

1038
00:59:54,329 --> 00:59:57,809
through this fabulous the truth
GPT app, formerly known as

1039
00:59:57,809 --> 01:00:02,309
Twitter now is x and Apple comes
along and says, Oh, you know

1040
01:00:02,309 --> 01:00:06,869
what? We're gonna give you 4.15%
interest. Just put your money

1041
01:00:06,869 --> 01:00:11,699
into Apple Pay about that. I
think I think they beat him. We

1042
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:14,220
John C Dvorak: talked about this
Sunday, he implied it. There was

1043
01:00:14,250 --> 01:00:17,970
a I couldn't find any evidence
that they won't let you do this

1044
01:00:17,970 --> 01:00:21,540
on anything other than an
iPhone. That's my concern. No,

1045
01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:21,660
you

1046
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:23,970
Adam Curry: have to Yes, an
iPhone and you have to have the

1047
01:00:23,970 --> 01:00:27,840
apple credit card. You have to
have both, I think. Yeah, no, of

1048
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,030
course. Duh.

1049
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:35,250
John C Dvorak: I think it's
illegal. In what way? Vertical

1050
01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:38,430
integration. There's okay. So
there's antitrust. You can't do

1051
01:00:38,430 --> 01:00:40,830
that. I don't think I don't
think it's the I think somebody

1052
01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:45,300
who's smart lawyer can take this
and say, Now, you have to open

1053
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:48,900
this up. You can't have it just
exclusive to your phone.

1054
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:53,880
Adam Curry: No. I mean, I don't
care. I don't want it. I think I

1055
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,970
think Elon may be a little irked
because this was supposed to be

1056
01:00:56,970 --> 01:00:57,900
his big thing.

1057
01:00:58,740 --> 01:01:00,720
John C Dvorak: He's got plenty
of time to make money.

1058
01:01:01,470 --> 01:01:04,500
Adam Curry: Okay. I don't know.
He might get devoured by the

1059
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:05,550
evil AI.

1060
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,800
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that
could happen, too. We can only

1061
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:08,730
hope. All right.

1062
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,560
Adam Curry: Let me guess You
wanted to talk about the Robert

1063
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,470
Kennedy Jr. Announcement for
running for president. Was that

1064
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:17,280
your big story?

1065
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:20,640
John C Dvorak: No, my big story
is I'm countrified. come to

1066
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,000
conclusion. I've got evidence. I
do have that though. I do have

1067
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,870
that. Yes. But I have evidence
that they're out to get the Joe.

1068
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,570
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think you're
right,

1069
01:01:31,049 --> 01:01:34,919
John C Dvorak: in a concerted
way. And the concerted way

1070
01:01:34,919 --> 01:01:41,339
involved, I got three sets, or
two sets of clips. And what

1071
01:01:41,339 --> 01:01:45,749
makes it obvious to me that
something's up is one of the set

1072
01:01:45,749 --> 01:01:50,189
of clips is from democracy. Now.
All anti Joe Hold on, and

1073
01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:53,250
Unknown: Amy Goodman clip
inbound.

1074
01:01:54,450 --> 01:01:59,340
John C Dvorak: And one of the
sets is from CBS stuff I never

1075
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:04,920
thought I'd ever hear on CBS.
And today I might add, as we may

1076
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,130
have low numbers listening to
the show, because on today's

1077
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:11,880
Jennifer Hudson show, which
started at 11 When our show

1078
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,580
start oh no Kamla Harris.

1079
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:18,120
Adam Curry: Oh, she's out there
promoting her. She's out

1080
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,420
John C Dvorak: there. They're
doing the last testing. If they

1081
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:24,600
can, if she can just get to a
certain point. They're gonna

1082
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,050
pull a plug on Joe, and put her
in. And that's my thesis,

1083
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,130
literally. So I want

1084
01:02:29,130 --> 01:02:30,990
Adam Curry: to literally pull
the plug on Joe.

1085
01:02:31,590 --> 01:02:34,650
John C Dvorak: Maybe. But I want
to start I'm trying to English

1086
01:02:34,650 --> 01:02:38,010
to start with the CBS stuff. But
I think I'm going to start with

1087
01:02:38,010 --> 01:02:42,030
the, with the democracy that you
played the clip for Democracy

1088
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:47,190
Now. This is an HHS scandal that
is really targeting Biden, and

1089
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:52,860
this is extremely unbelievable,
as far as I'm concerned. And so

1090
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,490
insofar as Democrats going after
Joe,

1091
01:02:56,550 --> 01:02:59,100
Unknown: The New York Times is
reporting the Biden

1092
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:02,850
administration's repeatedly
ignored or missed warnings about

1093
01:03:02,850 --> 01:03:06,960
a surge of migrant children as
young as 12. working in

1094
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,920
factories across the United
States. The Times reports quote,

1095
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:14,190
at least five Health and Human
Services staff members filed

1096
01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:17,430
complaints and said they were
pushed out after raising

1097
01:03:17,430 --> 01:03:22,680
concerns about child's safety.
And one of the HHS staffers told

1098
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,220
The New York Times, quote, I
feel like short of protesting in

1099
01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:29,730
the streets. I did everything I
could to warn them. They just

1100
01:03:29,730 --> 01:03:33,270
didn't want to hear it. She
said. In February, The Times

1101
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:36,360
published a blockbuster report
about child labor based on

1102
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,810
accounts by over 100
unaccompanied migrant children,

1103
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:43,770
mostly from Central America, who
describe grueling and often

1104
01:03:43,770 --> 01:03:46,680
dangerous working conditions,
including having to use heavy

1105
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,040
machinery being subjected to
long hours and late night shifts

1106
01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:53,520
at facilities that manufacture
products from major brands and

1107
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,640
retailers like hearthside Food
solutions, the makers of

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,510
Cheerios, fruited lume Whole
Foods target Walmart, J. Crew,

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01:04:00,510 --> 01:04:04,920
Frito. Lay and Ben and Jerry's.
Others were forced to work as

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,190
cleaning staff at hotels at
slaughterhouses construction

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01:04:08,190 --> 01:04:11,520
sites car factories owned by
General Motors and Ford in

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01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,600
serious violation of child labor
laws. On Tuesday, Homeland

1113
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,970
Security Secretary Alex hundra
Mayorkas was grilled about the

1114
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:25,200
Biden administration's response
to forced child labor. This is

1115
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,690
Republican senator Josh Hawley
of Missouri.

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01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:31,110
Adam Curry: You're not gonna
take any responsibility for the

1117
01:04:31,110 --> 01:04:33,930
indentured servitude and
exploitation of children that is

1118
01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:36,750
happening on your watch a moment
ago, you were crowing about the

1119
01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:41,010
fact that you treated children
so well. And yet we find 10s of

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01:04:41,010 --> 01:04:46,230
1000s of children who are forced
to work as slaves because of

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01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:49,140
your policies. And you turn
around and blame a prior

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01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:52,440
administration. Mr. Secretary,
this is par for the course for

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01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,140
you. You do it every time you
appear before this committee.

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01:04:55,170 --> 01:04:58,320
You do it every time you appear
before Congress I for 1am sick

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,710
and tired of it and 1000s of
times Children are in physical

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01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:06,240
danger. Danger because of what
you were doing. You should have

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,450
resigned long ago and if you
cannot change course you should

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01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:10,380
be removed from office

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01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:15,480
John C Dvorak: yeah all right.
Yeah. Here's the here's the

1130
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:22,080
gravity the situation to imagine
AMY GOODMAN playing a holly clip

1131
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:25,530
to conclusion

1132
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:31,110
Adam Curry: yes without without
scoffing at Holly. You know, and

1133
01:05:31,110 --> 01:05:34,620
because Holly is a takedown
artist, I mean, that's part of

1134
01:05:34,620 --> 01:05:37,200
what he does. He makes sound
bites he wakes up in the morning

1135
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,350
says, How can I make a sound
bite on C span? And then to get

1136
01:05:40,350 --> 01:05:43,890
it on Democracy Now? I agree
with you that is there. There's

1137
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,530
that's that's bad. That's bad.
Bad news for Joe.

1138
01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:50,280
John C Dvorak: This. Well, yes,
but let's go to clip two and now

1139
01:05:50,310 --> 01:05:54,150
they bring into a Pulitzer Prize
winning writer for the New York

1140
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:59,160
Times and she was just lasered
layer after layer of bad news.

1141
01:05:59,490 --> 01:06:03,180
Unknown: We're joined now by
Hannah Dreier Pulitzer Prize

1142
01:06:03,180 --> 01:06:06,750
winning reporter at The New York
Times. Her new investigation is

1143
01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:11,520
headlined as migrant children
were put to work us ignored

1144
01:06:11,550 --> 01:06:15,810
warnings. dryers earlier piece
was headlined alone and

1145
01:06:15,810 --> 01:06:20,280
exploited migrant children work
brutal jobs across the US.

1146
01:06:20,550 --> 01:06:24,510
Hannah Dreier Welcome back to
Democracy Now we had you on for

1147
01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:28,200
your first blockbuster
expository showing children as

1148
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,430
young as 12, working across the
United States. Now you're

1149
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:36,120
reporting that the Biden
administration knew about this

1150
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:39,060
not only knew about this and
didn't do anything, they

1151
01:06:39,060 --> 01:06:43,230
actually did do something. They
pushed out those within the

1152
01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:47,520
administration who were raising
alarms, can you talk about what

1153
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,210
you found?

1154
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,760
It's great to be with you, Amy.
And yeah, just as you say,

1155
01:06:55,020 --> 01:06:59,160
people were punished for
bringing this to the attention

1156
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,430
of their supervisors, people say
that they were fired, they were

1157
01:07:02,430 --> 01:07:07,860
demoted. I spent a year talking
to children who came to this

1158
01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:12,120
country and are working in the
most exploitative conditions in

1159
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,720
factories and slaughterhouses. I
found these children in every

1160
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,260
single state in this country.
And so after that story came

1161
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:21,900
out, I began asking how could it
have been that the Biden

1162
01:07:21,900 --> 01:07:25,710
administration didn't know about
this? And what I found was that

1163
01:07:25,710 --> 01:07:28,740
actually, they weren't given
evidence, they were given

1164
01:07:28,740 --> 01:07:32,040
warnings, there was sign after
sign that this was happening for

1165
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,930
two years. And that really
didn't spring into action until

1166
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,920
just last month.

1167
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,880
Adam Curry: And you know, they,
whenever you they use children,

1168
01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:47,580
they really mean business.
Whenever they, whenever it's

1169
01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:49,830
something that is done to
children with that did the same

1170
01:07:49,830 --> 01:07:53,640
thing to Trump. You're ripping
children, children, mothers

1171
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,740
arms, children in cages. Yeah.

1172
01:07:55,950 --> 01:07:59,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah. No, this is
serious. And I'm telling you,

1173
01:07:59,610 --> 01:08:02,190
this is concerted effort. We're
gonna end when you see it on

1174
01:08:02,190 --> 01:08:06,210
Democracy Now. Yeah. And then
CBS when you hear the CBS clips

1175
01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:09,780
is not about this, it's another
thing they're going after this

1176
01:08:09,780 --> 01:08:12,570
guy, but listen to this clip,
this part three is really

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01:08:12,570 --> 01:08:13,320
interesting.

1178
01:08:14,430 --> 01:08:18,990
Unknown: I was particularly
struck by the the information

1179
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,910
about, uh, Susan Rice, the White
House head of domestic policy,

1180
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:29,700
and I heard the reports that
there were problems in terms of

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01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:31,950
how these children are being
treated. And you talk about

1182
01:08:31,950 --> 01:08:35,340
that, because cuz Susan Rice is
a person who has been in every

1183
01:08:35,340 --> 01:08:39,000
Democratic administration over
the last 30 years, Bill Clinton,

1184
01:08:39,270 --> 01:08:41,340
Barack Obama, and now Joe Biden,

1185
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,030
right. Susan Rice is a hugely
important figure, and she is

1186
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:49,680
Biden's top point person on
immigration. So it's not, you

1187
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,280
know, some junior staffer at the
White House who maybe got a

1188
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,030
warning one time and it didn't
get, you know, channeled in the

1189
01:08:57,030 --> 01:09:00,540
appropriate way. What I found
was that Susan Rice's team was

1190
01:09:00,540 --> 01:09:04,950
told about this again, and
again. And the kind of evidence

1191
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:08,760
we're talking about are clusters
of children found to be working

1192
01:09:09,090 --> 01:09:13,050
in different parts of the
country, repeatedly in these

1193
01:09:13,050 --> 01:09:17,010
very industrial jobs. So these
are children, making car parts,

1194
01:09:17,010 --> 01:09:21,240
these are children using caustic
chemicals, acids to scrub a

1195
01:09:21,270 --> 01:09:25,830
chicken plant. And those
messages, got to Susan Rice's

1196
01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:32,190
level memos, airing concerns
about these issues, got to Susan

1197
01:09:32,190 --> 01:09:37,110
races level, her team was told,
going back to, you know, the

1198
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:42,360
summer of 2021, that people were
very worried about this. And

1199
01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:45,780
what the White House has
basically said as well, maybe we

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01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:50,280
saw these signs, but we didn't
put it all together. What their

1201
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:54,030
response has been is sort of a
lack of curiosity or a lack of

1202
01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:57,660
conscientious thinking, to
realize that if we're seeing

1203
01:09:57,660 --> 01:10:00,690
kids in all these different
places who are doing these jobs.

1204
01:10:00,690 --> 01:10:03,780
Maybe there's a larger trend
here. Maybe there's 1000s of

1205
01:10:03,780 --> 01:10:04,710
these kids out there.

1206
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,250
Adam Curry: What companies are
using these children? How is

1207
01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:09,750
this happening in America?

1208
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:12,990
John C Dvorak: But they named
names earlier. Frito Lay General

1209
01:10:12,990 --> 01:10:14,280
Motors Ford,

1210
01:10:14,610 --> 01:10:15,480
Adam Curry: Ford,

1211
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:17,580
John C Dvorak: that's what I'd
like to know exactly. If you

1212
01:10:17,580 --> 01:10:20,580
remember, before we started
doing this show, I'm sure you

1213
01:10:20,580 --> 01:10:23,640
recall this. There was a big
stink. I think it was during the

1214
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,820
Bush administration or before
that a big stink about these

1215
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:30,030
migrants getting jobs and there
were laws against hiring any of

1216
01:10:30,030 --> 01:10:33,210
them and if you got busted
hiring somebody was a migrant

1217
01:10:33,210 --> 01:10:39,300
not even talking about children.
You would find it heavily but

1218
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:43,500
now it's not only illegal
migrants is illegal migrant

1219
01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:48,180
underage children working at
these companies making the

1220
01:10:48,180 --> 01:10:51,690
country sound like I hellhole
Why would criticize China.

1221
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,250
Adam Curry: Hey, guess what?
Maybe it is a hellhole. We got

1222
01:10:56,250 --> 01:11:00,210
children working at Ford,
screwing on hubcaps, or whatever

1223
01:11:00,210 --> 01:11:03,000
it is, or chemicals to clean,
horrible.

1224
01:11:03,690 --> 01:11:05,700
John C Dvorak: They're giving
them the worst kind of jobs that

1225
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:08,130
hubcap Joe would be plus,

1226
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,770
Adam Curry: I mean, I need some
evidence of this.

1227
01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:13,590
John C Dvorak: Well, the New
York Times covers it with a lot

1228
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:17,790
of evidence. And yet I note one
more thing, as based on my

1229
01:11:17,790 --> 01:11:19,920
thesis that they're out to get
Biden in, they're gonna get him

1230
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,770
before the end of this year,
probably. Yeah, they must. This

1231
01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:28,080
is the new york times this is a
democratic spokesperson for all

1232
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,460
practical purposes. They are
they cover for the Democrats.

1233
01:11:33,060 --> 01:11:35,250
And we're getting this kind of
reporting. This is the last of

1234
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:36,150
these clips.

1235
01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:38,940
Unknown: Well, they did put it
together sufficiently to force

1236
01:11:38,940 --> 01:11:42,120
out five health and human
service staff members because

1237
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,270
you talk about those some of
those staff members and the

1238
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:46,980
alarms that they raised, that

1239
01:11:46,980 --> 01:11:49,830
these are the people who are
reading the unaccompanied minor

1240
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:53,670
program for Health and Human
Services. One of the women who I

1241
01:11:53,670 --> 01:11:58,710
spoke with Jalen SWOG, she
helped build this program. She

1242
01:11:58,710 --> 01:12:02,340
started working for the
government in 2010. Right when

1243
01:12:02,340 --> 01:12:04,890
we first started to see these
waves of children coming over,

1244
01:12:05,220 --> 01:12:08,460
and she was in charge of this
program for years and years, she

1245
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:11,400
was the highest official running
the program when Biden took

1246
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,330
over. And what she says is she
raised alarms, we've seen her

1247
01:12:15,330 --> 01:12:17,670
emails where she's saying
something catastrophic is going

1248
01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:21,000
to happen. I'm pleading with
somebody to pay attention. When

1249
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,450
her emails went unanswered. She
went to Congress, and she talked

1250
01:12:24,450 --> 01:12:27,810
to Congress staffers and said,
again, I'm really worried about

1251
01:12:27,810 --> 01:12:31,500
what's happening here. These
children are in danger. And she

1252
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:36,420
was pushed out. She was one of
five people who I spoke to who

1253
01:12:36,450 --> 01:12:40,500
filed complaints, who showed me
their emails where they're

1254
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,140
saying, you know, something
really wrong is happening here.

1255
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:46,770
And they say that instead of
being listened to, they were

1256
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:47,550
demoted.

1257
01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:54,540
Adam Curry: Wow, this, you're
right. This is and they're going

1258
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:57,870
after Joe from AWS, does it? I
mean, how hard is it just to

1259
01:12:57,870 --> 01:13:00,780
kill the guy? This seems like a
lot of work.

1260
01:13:02,430 --> 01:13:04,800
John C Dvorak: Well, this meant
you might be a lot of work, but

1261
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,860
it seems like to somebody who
likes to take, you know, wings

1262
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:09,900
off of flies, it might be more
fun.

1263
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:12,660
Adam Curry: Well, they're taking
a lot of wings off of a lot of

1264
01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:16,110
flies with this. The whole
that's the whole Hunter Biden

1265
01:13:16,110 --> 01:13:18,330
crime family is going down at
this rate.

1266
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,480
John C Dvorak: Well, let's take
Yeah, the 100 by let's move to

1267
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:22,650
CBS.

1268
01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:26,400
Adam Curry: Can I play a quick
clip before you do this? Because

1269
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,940
it's just a positioning clip.
Because sure, I also had the CBS

1270
01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:34,170
clip, you do a mall. That's
great. But this was on Hannity,

1271
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:39,360
just to give you an idea of how
phony, the so called news is,

1272
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:43,320
from all sides, they have no
shame. They're talking about the

1273
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:47,160
Biden crime family. Now listen
to this guy and wait for the

1274
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,120
slogan is,

1275
01:13:48,180 --> 01:13:51,600
Unknown: do you believe the
President of the United States

1276
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,870
is compromised by these
countries that we know hate our

1277
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:55,410
guts?

1278
01:13:56,730 --> 01:13:59,520
I'll answer the second question.
I don't see how Joe Biden could

1279
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,690
not be compromised. I mean, this
these family members aren't

1280
01:14:03,810 --> 01:14:07,560
energy experts. They weren't on
boards, at least with Burisma

1281
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,190
Hunter actually sat on a board.
There are no other boards that

1282
01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:14,400
we can find that these family
members said Oh, and certainly

1283
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,370
not the grandchildren and the
nieces and the nephews and the

1284
01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:22,200
in laws and things like that. So
what were they doing? Why were

1285
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,770
they getting this much money? It
all points back to Joe Biden and

1286
01:14:25,770 --> 01:14:28,950
we're gonna continue until we
get the truth to the American

1287
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:32,100
people but I can say they shot
the walls are closing in on the

1288
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:32,550
Biden

1289
01:14:38,010 --> 01:14:40,680
Adam Curry: how many times we
heard that about Trump? It's a

1290
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,250
tipping point the walls are
closing is FoxNews seriously

1291
01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:48,570
going to use all these tropes
now against Joe Biden? The all

1292
01:14:48,570 --> 01:14:49,980
of its unwatchable.

1293
01:14:50,910 --> 01:14:54,930
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's most of
Fox is unwatchable. All right.

1294
01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:58,800
Let's go to CBS. And they got
another whole different scandal.

1295
01:14:59,250 --> 01:15:02,700
It's centers around 100 by a
little bit, but it's more to it

1296
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:05,700
than that. And when you start
when they do where they do it

1297
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:09,960
they're not quite as blunt force
trauma as democracy now, but

1298
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,210
it's not bad. This is Hunter
one.

1299
01:15:12,270 --> 01:15:14,280
Unknown: Tonight there is
breaking news in the federal

1300
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,940
criminal investigation into
Hunter Biden's tax returns. An

1301
01:15:17,940 --> 01:15:21,540
attorney for an IRS supervisor
sent a letter to lawmakers today

1302
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,050
asking for whistleblower
protection, saying his client

1303
01:15:25,050 --> 01:15:28,320
has information that suggests
the investigation is being

1304
01:15:28,350 --> 01:15:32,580
improperly influenced by quote
preferential treatment and

1305
01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:37,020
politics. Here's CBS News Chief
investigative correspondent Jim

1306
01:15:37,050 --> 01:15:37,740
Axelrod.

1307
01:15:37,980 --> 01:15:41,130
My client wants to come forward
to Congress. He's ready to be

1308
01:15:41,130 --> 01:15:44,070
questioned about what he knows
and what he experienced under

1309
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:46,050
the proper legal protections.

1310
01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:50,190
attorney Mark ladles client is a
supervisory special agent at the

1311
01:15:50,190 --> 01:15:54,450
IRS who's prepared to tell
Congress the investigation he's

1312
01:15:54,450 --> 01:15:57,630
been working on has been
hampered by what he thinks is

1313
01:15:57,630 --> 01:15:58,590
special treatment.

1314
01:15:58,980 --> 01:16:02,490
Typical steps that a law
enforcement investigator would

1315
01:16:02,490 --> 01:16:06,840
take were compromised because of
political considerations.

1316
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,860
Lytle wouldn't talk in specifics
declining to identify either his

1317
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:14,310
client or the target of the
investigation his client helped

1318
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:16,380
conduct. Can you identify him?

1319
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,450
I can't at this stage, Jim.

1320
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,960
But CBS News has learned the
investigation the whistleblower

1321
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,570
worked on is about Hunter Biden,

1322
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,240
what we're doing is is being
completely cooperative.

1323
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,080
That was Biden two years ago,
after the DOJ opened an

1324
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,250
investigation into his finances.
The FBI collected what it

1325
01:16:35,250 --> 01:16:39,240
believed was sufficient evidence
to charge Biden with tax crimes.

1326
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:43,350
And last year sent its findings
to the US Attorney in Delaware

1327
01:16:43,740 --> 01:16:50,730
since then, silence. Yeah.

1328
01:16:52,050 --> 01:16:56,130
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. So
typically, whistleblowers don't

1329
01:16:56,130 --> 01:16:59,940
get lawyers. i That's the one
thing I'd mentioned. And, you

1330
01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:02,460
know, this lawyer keeps saying,
Well, you know, there's a

1331
01:17:02,490 --> 01:17:05,790
certain protections in place,
but it mean, you're a

1332
01:17:05,790 --> 01:17:09,060
whistleblower than used you.
There's a there's a process you

1333
01:17:09,060 --> 01:17:11,430
go through? Doesn't seem like
they're going through the

1334
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:14,790
process, but they are, in fact,
dangling this out there.

1335
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:17,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, could be I
mean, I, as far as I'm

1336
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,880
concerned, none of this is
anything other than the kind of

1337
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,850
a concerted effort from
different fronts to get Joe

1338
01:17:23,850 --> 01:17:28,410
Biden out of office because he
considers he thinks he's going

1339
01:17:28,410 --> 01:17:34,410
to run again. And they he's got
to go. And so all this all these

1340
01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:38,100
little nuances, like you just
described, I don't think are as

1341
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,200
important to the whole overall
view of things as do you think

1342
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,700
might normally be the case?
Well,

1343
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:46,920
Adam Curry: this is more than
just he's gotta go. This is

1344
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,430
taking down the entire family.
I'm gonna take down Jill, I

1345
01:17:50,430 --> 01:17:54,210
mean, it's gonna be it's gonna
be maybe his Susan Rice is Susan

1346
01:17:54,210 --> 01:17:56,760
Rice. I mean, this is a real
well, it's

1347
01:17:56,940 --> 01:17:59,700
John C Dvorak: in part two, we
got one more character mentioned

1348
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:02,040
that's going to end up getting
hit in the ringer.

1349
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,110
Unknown: Why can't your client
talk

1350
01:18:04,110 --> 01:18:07,260
to us directly at this point,
there are laws that provide

1351
01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:10,890
protection to whistleblowers,
and he has to navigate that

1352
01:18:11,130 --> 01:18:14,910
today Lytle sent this letter to
Congress, claiming his client

1353
01:18:14,910 --> 01:18:18,840
could provide information that
would contradict sworn testimony

1354
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:21,180
by a senior political appointee.

1355
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:24,930
I have promised to ensure that
he's able to carry out his

1356
01:18:24,930 --> 01:18:25,770
investigation.

1357
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,010
CBS News has learned that was
attorney general Merrick

1358
01:18:29,010 --> 01:18:32,880
Garland, who gave testimony
about the US Attorney in

1359
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,090
Delaware, conducting the Hunter
Biden investigation.

1360
01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:39,690
Adam Curry: Now, can we be sure
that this is the Democrat party?

1361
01:18:39,690 --> 01:18:42,600
This may be some other group

1362
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:45,750
John C Dvorak: that yes, we can.
Okay. We can absolutely be sure

1363
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:49,110
we're talking about CBS. Yes.
And we're talking about

1364
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:51,810
democracy now. This is all
fronts for the Democrat party.

1365
01:18:51,810 --> 01:18:55,740
This is the Democrat Party doing
this. Well, CBS there's no doubt

1366
01:18:55,740 --> 01:18:58,050
in my mind by me. It could be
the CIA, but they're the

1367
01:18:58,050 --> 01:18:59,730
Democrat Party nowadays. I

1368
01:18:59,730 --> 01:19:00,720
Adam Curry: agree. I agree.

1369
01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:04,950
John C Dvorak: So there's no
doubt about this is not any the

1370
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:08,580
Republicans aren't this. They
can't do this. I mean, yeah, get

1371
01:19:08,580 --> 01:19:11,850
handed there. You played the
Hannity clip. That's, that's the

1372
01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:12,180
best

1373
01:19:12,180 --> 01:19:15,300
Adam Curry: we can do. That's
the level they got. The walls

1374
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:16,230
are closing in.

1375
01:19:17,130 --> 01:19:18,780
John C Dvorak: They can't even
read they got old memes. They

1376
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:20,070
can't even come up with
something new.

1377
01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:22,530
Adam Curry: But what's cool
about it is that they literally

1378
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,270
the AMI took Josh Hawley so
they're using the Republicans in

1379
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:27,930
this case.

1380
01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:31,410
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you can use
Josh Hawley. He's a loudmouth.

1381
01:19:31,410 --> 01:19:34,500
He's got good things to say.
He's a kind of guy you can use

1382
01:19:34,500 --> 01:19:37,050
to get the soundbite. You can
probably get some few other

1383
01:19:37,050 --> 01:19:40,830
guys. I mean, if you're going
after the Pfizer you get as much

1384
01:19:40,830 --> 01:19:43,230
Rand Paul material as you could.
This

1385
01:19:43,230 --> 01:19:46,140
Adam Curry: has, you know what
this? The Susan Rice thing has

1386
01:19:46,140 --> 01:19:50,970
me bothered and I'm gonna go out
on the limb. This is Obama.

1387
01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:58,080
Obama is saying get rid of her
too. And the reason

1388
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,440
John C Dvorak: he was in love
with Susan Raise Obama bull

1389
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:04,170
Adam Curry: crap. No, she wrote
that memo. Remember she had the

1390
01:20:04,170 --> 01:20:06,930
memo to herself or see why it
was a memo on

1391
01:20:06,930 --> 01:20:10,320
John C Dvorak: purpose by Obama
probably advise her to do it.

1392
01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:13,470
Adam Curry: And he's getting rid
of her because of Michelle

1393
01:20:13,470 --> 01:20:16,680
running. I feel it. Michelle
Obama is gonna Well, now

1394
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,260
John C Dvorak: you've gotten off
the deep end. Clip three.

1395
01:20:19,620 --> 01:20:23,610
Unknown: Lytle says neither he
nor his client are motivated by

1396
01:20:23,610 --> 01:20:28,740
politics. Would you find any
evidence or allegation of a

1397
01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:29,790
political agenda?

1398
01:20:30,030 --> 01:20:34,890
No. To him, the truth is one
truth. And he wants to come

1399
01:20:34,890 --> 01:20:35,700
forward with it

1400
01:20:35,790 --> 01:20:38,310
later on, told us the
whistleblower has been with the

1401
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:43,020
IRS for more than a decade, and
has extensive documentation to

1402
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:44,760
support his allegations,

1403
01:20:44,820 --> 01:20:48,990
the things he's been through are
very well documented in emails

1404
01:20:49,260 --> 01:20:52,560
and other communications with
the Department of Justice.

1405
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,940
We asked Mark Lytle, if there's
a chance his client can only see

1406
01:20:56,970 --> 01:21:00,600
his slice of the investigation
and not the big picture. He said

1407
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,240
that's possible, but that his
client had expressed his

1408
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,320
concerns to superiors a number
of times before seeking

1409
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,340
whistleblower status. Neither
the IRS Department of Justice or

1410
01:21:11,340 --> 01:21:14,250
a lawyer for Hunter Biden would
come at it.

1411
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:17,730
Adam Curry: I'm putting it in
the book. I'm putting it in the

1412
01:21:17,730 --> 01:21:21,210
book. This is clean up making
room because who else? Yeah,

1413
01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:25,110
they may put Kamala in brief no
cameras in she's the one Yeah,

1414
01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:28,590
for a bit until until 2024. But
it's just temporary.

1415
01:21:29,070 --> 01:21:31,140
John C Dvorak: But no, she's
going to be when she's gonna be

1416
01:21:31,140 --> 01:21:34,170
the president, and then she's
gonna run for reelection. It

1417
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,620
accomplishes a lot of things for
one accomplished geek just

1418
01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:41,820
getting rid of the notion that,
that Michelle would run it all,

1419
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:46,410
but I think is more to stop
Gavin Newsom in his tracks at

1420
01:21:46,410 --> 01:21:51,180
all and his chances of being
president and I think it's going

1421
01:21:51,180 --> 01:21:54,270
to end the day I honestly
believe the Democrats is the

1422
01:21:54,270 --> 01:21:57,630
more you watch this, if you
don't listen to the other side,

1423
01:21:57,630 --> 01:22:02,970
which we do both so we you know,
we see Kamla as a buffoon, but

1424
01:22:02,970 --> 01:22:05,850
the Democrats don't see it that
way. They see her as a smart,

1425
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,410
intelligent black woman now.

1426
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:09,960
Unknown: Wow, okay. You're gonna

1427
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:14,160
John C Dvorak: talk to people on
the street. And then And then

1428
01:22:16,620 --> 01:22:19,650
Adam Curry: she's gonna show you
we're talking to people on the

1429
01:22:19,650 --> 01:22:20,160
street.

1430
01:22:21,690 --> 01:22:24,870
John C Dvorak: So Jennifer
Hudson, is going to make her

1431
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:27,120
look good. And it's going to be
later one of the tests are there

1432
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:27,960
grooming her?

1433
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:30,630
Adam Curry: Yes, they are. I
agree. But it's only getting

1434
01:22:30,630 --> 01:22:33,570
everybody ready for Michelle.
You can Laugh all you want. Put

1435
01:22:33,570 --> 01:22:36,270
it in the book. I'm putting it
into the book. I'm putting it in

1436
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:36,720
the book. I

1437
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,280
John C Dvorak: don't even
putting it in the book is so

1438
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,510
ludicrous. Okay,

1439
01:22:39,540 --> 01:22:40,920
Adam Curry: you will eat them
words.

1440
01:22:41,519 --> 01:22:43,589
Unknown: So i Whoa, yes, you
will be

1441
01:22:44,940 --> 01:22:46,410
Adam Curry: crunching on those
words.

1442
01:22:47,009 --> 01:22:49,079
John C Dvorak: Especially while
we're at it. Since we're talking

1443
01:22:49,079 --> 01:22:51,869
about this sort of thing. Let's
go. Well, let me play another

1444
01:22:51,869 --> 01:22:52,529
candidate. Let

1445
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:54,630
Adam Curry: me play this. And
then you can play the I have the

1446
01:22:54,660 --> 01:22:57,240
announcement that I want to play
a piece of, okay,

1447
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:02,070
John C Dvorak: well, we're gonna
go to bar f, J, G. Or RFK, Jr.

1448
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,350
or F GK or f k,

1449
01:23:04,890 --> 01:23:08,580
Adam Curry: who I met once I met
him in context of climate

1450
01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:12,300
change. Funny enough, when, when
we were all with Kleiner Perkins

1451
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:14,730
had their Green Fund and we're
all at the golf course he was

1452
01:23:14,730 --> 01:23:17,760
there. Yeah. Why was that golf
course the famous one Pebble

1453
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,420
Beach, Pebble Beach, Pebble
Beach. Well, there's a lot of

1454
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,460
sadness. California is not the
one in California.

1455
01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:25,860
John C Dvorak: It could have
been the Olympic club.

1456
01:23:28,020 --> 01:23:29,640
Adam Curry: Is Pebble Beach in
California.

1457
01:23:29,850 --> 01:23:31,530
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And
Pebble Beach is Pebble Beach.

1458
01:23:31,530 --> 01:23:33,690
And that's there's three core
that's the watch. And

1459
01:23:33,690 --> 01:23:36,450
Adam Curry: we had an away with
all all the founders of the

1460
01:23:36,450 --> 01:23:39,570
companies. And they embarrass me
by forcing me to play which of

1461
01:23:39,570 --> 01:23:43,590
course, was horrible. But then
Robert Kennedy, Jr. was there

1462
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:49,170
with his wife. And his reason
for there was, you know, we're

1463
01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:52,650
still Special Olympics, what he
was doing as his mom, but it has

1464
01:23:52,650 --> 01:23:56,610
something to do with a gore and
gore. Gore's movie was played

1465
01:23:56,610 --> 01:23:59,460
then for the first time before
it was in theaters. And I spoke

1466
01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:03,120
to him he's a really nice guy,
but, but really meek and quiet.

1467
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,080
Actually, I didn't know much
about him at the time. So he

1468
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,050
announced that he is running for
president. And he did a fun

1469
01:24:10,050 --> 01:24:14,250
thing in this announcement. Now
he talked about misinformation

1470
01:24:14,250 --> 01:24:16,410
disinformation, how it's all
bull crap.

1471
01:24:17,129 --> 01:24:19,319
John C Dvorak: Where did you get
this clip? Because most people

1472
01:24:19,349 --> 01:24:21,149
most mainstream wouldn't play
it.

1473
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,750
Adam Curry: No, I've got it from
the announcement video. I found

1474
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:28,380
the video and I clipped a piece
from it. And I thought it was

1475
01:24:28,380 --> 01:24:32,310
interesting what he said because
he literally compared himself to

1476
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:35,970
his dad, when his dad ran for
office,

1477
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:41,580
Unknown: my father 55 years ago
last month, as a 14 year old

1478
01:24:41,580 --> 01:24:47,220
boy. Hi, my father as he knows
the caucus room in Washington

1479
01:24:47,220 --> 01:24:53,040
DC. His campaign for presidency
of the United States. My father

1480
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:57,450
at that time was in many ways in
the same position that I'm in

1481
01:24:57,450 --> 01:25:03,210
today. He was running again. As
a president of his own party, he

1482
01:25:03,210 --> 01:25:07,770
was running against a war he was
running against. He was running

1483
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:13,920
at a time unprecedented
polarization in our country. He

1484
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:18,900
had no chance of winning. My
father when he declared had not

1485
01:25:18,930 --> 01:25:22,650
a single molecule in him that he
believed that he could win the

1486
01:25:22,650 --> 01:25:26,790
Democratic nomination. Why is
that? He'd run his brother's

1487
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:32,880
campaign at night to him 60
years before. But now, all the

1488
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,700
unions were against him with two
exceptions, the United Auto

1489
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:42,240
Workers and Cesar Chavez United
Farmworkers. The liberal press

1490
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,870
was 100% against the New York
Times, is it the Village Voice,

1491
01:25:46,590 --> 01:25:50,190
labor union, the big city mayors
were against them, including

1492
01:25:50,190 --> 01:25:52,680
Mayor Daley, who had played a
critical role in President

1493
01:25:52,680 --> 01:26:00,120
Kennedy's nomination. All the
people in the new frontier, were

1494
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,230
his closest friends are now
working for the Johnson White

1495
01:26:04,230 --> 01:26:09,000
House. So they were against him.
The only people that he had with

1496
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,240
him, even the universities were
against him, because they were

1497
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,650
with McCarthy's group of
Hollywood like Joanne Woodward,

1498
01:26:16,650 --> 01:26:19,830
Paul Newman, who had been very
close to him very worked very

1499
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:26,130
hard for my uncle and 60. We're
now working from a party. My

1500
01:26:26,130 --> 01:26:30,750
father and the universities. My
father, my father used to say

1501
01:26:30,750 --> 01:26:34,770
that he McCarthy had all the A's
students and he had the BMC

1502
01:26:34,770 --> 01:26:42,750
students. And so the only people
he had were people, poor white

1503
01:26:42,750 --> 01:26:47,340
people in rural areas, like
Appalachia, poor blacks, and in

1504
01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:53,760
the Delta and our cities and
Watson Harlem and the East LA,

1505
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:58,980
and Indians on the Indian
reservations. And that was kind

1506
01:26:58,980 --> 01:27:05,490
of hopelessness in his campaign.
Freedom to tell the truth to the

1507
01:27:05,490 --> 01:27:06,270
American people.

1508
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,120
Adam Curry: Yeah. Which is about
the only thing he'll achieve is

1509
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,030
to be able to tell the truth to
the American people, but no one

1510
01:27:12,030 --> 01:27:12,900
will hear it.

1511
01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:17,100
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, this
your watch Tucker, and I hate

1512
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:17,190
the

1513
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,350
Adam Curry: comparisons he's
making, because we know it

1514
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:23,940
didn't end well. The Kennedys. I
mean, to have a bad record.

1515
01:27:24,750 --> 01:27:27,720
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, that's my era when I was a

1516
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,530
Democrat. Good. Tell us about
your life. Very familiar with

1517
01:27:31,530 --> 01:27:35,910
what happened. Okay. Tell us a
day Ward Democrats were on

1518
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:41,400
board. Big time was Eugene
McCarthy. He was the guy

1519
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:45,750
Everyone wanted a win. Candidate
Kennedy came in and every bite

1520
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:49,950
the reason that he was it wasn't
because of whatever thing or if

1521
01:27:49,950 --> 01:28:00,390
J or J. K Jr. RFK Jr. thinks,
oh, it was because Oh, Kennedy's

1522
01:28:00,390 --> 01:28:03,360
just, he's just trying because
he's a bigger name than

1523
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:09,000
McCarthy. He's trying to steal
his thunder Stolen Valor. So he

1524
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,120
was just he was disliked for
that reason, because McCarthy

1525
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:18,360
was the guy everybody wanted, he
was a super peacenik. And so the

1526
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,240
fact was, is that the Democrat
Party wasn't gonna put him in

1527
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,960
either and, and I think everyone
kind of knew that Kennedy would

1528
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,560
have gotten a nomination,
because nobody wanted George

1529
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,920
McGovern, who finally got the
nomination out of that he was a

1530
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:38,490
bonehead. So this is visited
interpretation and my

1531
01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:44,820
recollection as a staunch
Democrat at the time was

1532
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,390
different. And yeah, it didn't
end well.

1533
01:28:49,020 --> 01:28:52,440
Adam Curry: I have to say I, I
like everything. Kennedy says,

1534
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,400
I'm not watched his
announcement. I like it all.

1535
01:28:56,430 --> 01:28:58,740
Pretty much. I don't think
there's I don't think I've heard

1536
01:28:58,740 --> 01:29:02,130
anything I disagree with and I
like it, too. I would vote for

1537
01:29:02,130 --> 01:29:04,770
him. I think he's a real threat.
I think he's a real threat to

1538
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:05,640
Michelle Obama.

1539
01:29:07,170 --> 01:29:08,160
John C Dvorak: You can leave
that on.

1540
01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:10,500
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
I

1541
01:29:11,130 --> 01:29:13,440
John C Dvorak: wrote it in every
time we bring up any topic.

1542
01:29:14,430 --> 01:29:16,770
Adam Curry: We're still on the
same topic. We're on the same

1543
01:29:16,770 --> 01:29:20,160
topic. It's more than valid for
me to say this. Just because you

1544
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,170
don't agree doesn't mean you can
dismiss it.

1545
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,920
John C Dvorak: No, if I don't
agree I can dismiss I can

1546
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,850
dismiss anything I want. Okay,
well, okay, then I can say any

1547
01:29:29,850 --> 01:29:32,430
the it's like it's a foregone
conclusion. You've already

1548
01:29:32,430 --> 01:29:37,260
pointed out that he can't get
any ink he's got on Tucker which

1549
01:29:37,260 --> 01:29:39,750
is like that's no good. Well,
what

1550
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:42,990
Adam Curry: if he What if he got
some Democrats and and a whole

1551
01:29:42,990 --> 01:29:44,250
bunch of Republicans?

1552
01:29:45,330 --> 01:29:49,950
John C Dvorak: He's getting
nobody. Let's be honest about

1553
01:29:49,950 --> 01:29:50,100
it.

1554
01:29:51,150 --> 01:29:54,120
Adam Curry: Okay, I guess you're
getting no but let's

1555
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,300
John C Dvorak: go to NPR. And
this is just the beginning. NPR

1556
01:29:57,300 --> 01:30:00,360
is like the flack you're what is
it called a shocked Troops

1557
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,910
Adam Curry: stormed troops as
this

1558
01:30:02,940 --> 01:30:06,990
John C Dvorak: shock troops are
coming in. And this guard RFK

1559
01:30:06,990 --> 01:30:09,090
Jr. NPR smear

1560
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:12,330
Unknown: a familiar name has
entered the 2024 presidential

1561
01:30:12,330 --> 01:30:14,850
race to challenge President
Biden for the Democratic

1562
01:30:14,850 --> 01:30:18,930
nomination. Robert F. Kennedy
Jr. He made his formal

1563
01:30:18,930 --> 01:30:20,520
announcement earlier today in
Boston.

1564
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:25,980
My mission over the next 18
months of this campaign, and

1565
01:30:26,010 --> 01:30:30,930
over my throughout my
presidency, will be to end the

1566
01:30:30,930 --> 01:30:33,720
corrupt merger of state and
corporate power.

1567
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,660
Now, Kennedy isn't just a member
of one of America's most famous

1568
01:30:39,660 --> 01:30:44,580
political dynasties. He's also
an anti vaccine activist who's

1569
01:30:44,580 --> 01:30:47,700
been criticized by his own
family and peers. Shannon bond

1570
01:30:47,700 --> 01:30:51,480
joins us now to explain more.
Hey, Shannon. Hey, Elsa. So

1571
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:53,820
okay, a lot of people of course
know the Kennedy name. But can

1572
01:30:53,820 --> 01:30:56,910
you remind us who exactly is
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

1573
01:30:57,330 --> 01:31:00,120
Sure. He's the nephew of
President John F. Kennedy and

1574
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,990
son of Bobby Kennedy. And Robert
Kennedy, Jr. is a lawyer who was

1575
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:07,260
originally probably best known
as an environmental activist.

1576
01:31:07,530 --> 01:31:10,530
But as you said, he's not only
become a central figure in the

1577
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,620
anti vaccination movement, but
he's also promoted other

1578
01:31:13,620 --> 01:31:18,120
conspiracy theories, like her
baseless idea that 5g telecom

1579
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,390
networks are being used to
control people's behavior. Wow.

1580
01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:24,870
Adam Curry: Oh, do we have do we
have proof of this?

1581
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:31,200
John C Dvorak: But I mean, I
conspiracy net. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

1582
01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:34,980
Adam Curry: Anti vaccine nut?
Yeah, that's right. No, in fact,

1583
01:31:35,010 --> 01:31:39,420
the truth is that he was as he
was an environmental lawyer, and

1584
01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:43,440
he sued organizations that were
putting mercury into our

1585
01:31:43,500 --> 01:31:48,960
national waterways, chemical
mainly from factories, etc. And

1586
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,120
it was getting into the fish
supply. And so he was suing

1587
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,910
people over that. And as he
tells it himself, he kept seeing

1588
01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:56,370
these women show up at all of
his events. And they were

1589
01:31:56,370 --> 01:32:00,510
saying, hey, our children are
being hurt by mercury in the

1590
01:32:00,510 --> 01:32:03,600
vaccines, namely in thigh
Marisol, and other such

1591
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,550
adjuvants. And that was

1592
01:32:05,820 --> 01:32:07,470
John C Dvorak: that actually
that's that that's not an

1593
01:32:07,470 --> 01:32:11,220
adjuvant? So I'm sorry, Marisol
is a preservative preservative,

1594
01:32:11,220 --> 01:32:15,600
Adam Curry: okay. But mercury in
the vaccines and he went

1595
01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:18,030
John C Dvorak: into the Marisol
is mercury,

1596
01:32:18,660 --> 01:32:22,860
Adam Curry: though. There you
go. It is mercury. So, and they

1597
01:32:22,860 --> 01:32:26,430
were using that. And he went
after those corporations as a

1598
01:32:26,430 --> 01:32:30,360
far cry. In fact, he is
explicitly not anti vaccine. He

1599
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:36,480
was anti COVID. vaccine. Yes.
Because he and he showed us a he

1600
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:40,080
read, he read the documents. He
showed it to us. And he said,

1601
01:32:40,110 --> 01:32:42,480
This is why it's bullcrap. And
this is why they want it on the

1602
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:43,530
children's schedule.

1603
01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:50,760
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
you're so much against NPR. I'm

1604
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,710
sorry. Let's continue this smear

1605
01:32:52,740 --> 01:32:54,420
Adam Curry: on national
treasure. What am I thinking?

1606
01:32:54,450 --> 01:32:55,290
Part Two?

1607
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,440
Unknown: Wow. Okay, how did
Kennedy wind up as a leader in

1608
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:00,360
the anti Vax movement?

1609
01:33:01,140 --> 01:33:04,920
Well, he said he is not opposed
to vaccines, he frames his

1610
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,370
criticisms as being about
safety. You know, in his speech

1611
01:33:08,370 --> 01:33:11,310
today, he didn't address
vaccines directly, but he did

1612
01:33:11,310 --> 01:33:15,450
raise concerns about chronic
illnesses, autism, quote,

1613
01:33:15,450 --> 01:33:18,510
poisoning our children. And
these are all references to

1614
01:33:18,510 --> 01:33:21,630
these debunked and false and
misleading claims that he has

1615
01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:25,230
promoted for years that
undermine trust in vaccines.

1616
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,590
During most recently, during the
COVID pandemic, he opposed

1617
01:33:28,590 --> 01:33:31,200
vaccine mandates and other
public health measures. He

1618
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,560
promoted unproven treatments
such as ivermectin, you know,

1619
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,500
and that did result in some of
his social media accounts being

1620
01:33:37,500 --> 01:33:40,770
taken down for spreading false
health claims. He says that

1621
01:33:40,770 --> 01:33:44,070
censorship, but the pandemic
also did a lot to raise his

1622
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:47,040
profile. And so we're in this
sort of strange place now where

1623
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:51,120
Kennedy is this figure this with
this iconic democratic name, but

1624
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,330
he's also now being embraced by
many on the political right, who

1625
01:33:54,330 --> 01:33:56,040
have adopted anti Vax views.

1626
01:33:56,100 --> 01:34:00,420
Right, but he is running as a
Democrat, President Biden's

1627
01:34:00,420 --> 01:34:03,240
approval rating with Democrats.
I mean, it's pretty strong right

1628
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,330
now polls find that Democrats
are willing to get vaccinated

1629
01:34:06,330 --> 01:34:10,800
than are Republicans. So what is
the rationale for Kennedy here?

1630
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,650
Because this sounds kind of like
a long shot, right?

1631
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,610
Adam Curry: Oh, there's so
elitist. And what's the ration

1632
01:34:17,610 --> 01:34:20,430
now? I mean, why would you even
bother? I mean, it's a long

1633
01:34:20,430 --> 01:34:25,320
shot. I mean, why even waste
your time? Becky?

1634
01:34:27,150 --> 01:34:31,230
John C Dvorak: So they also have
destructure, that whole little

1635
01:34:31,230 --> 01:34:34,710
part of that report where they
go, everything he says has been

1636
01:34:34,710 --> 01:34:37,410
debunked, it's false. It's a
bet. You know, they get to one

1637
01:34:37,410 --> 01:34:40,590
thing after this, they just
can't they just can't say, you

1638
01:34:40,590 --> 01:34:45,120
know, it's questionable. Oh, no,
no, no, it's not proven.

1639
01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:47,460
Adam Curry: These are new
models. These are news models

1640
01:34:47,460 --> 01:34:49,950
with the perfect face for radio.
That's why they're on it.

1641
01:34:50,879 --> 01:34:53,819
John C Dvorak: To get the voice
they do. Yes. All right. Let's

1642
01:34:53,819 --> 01:34:58,619
go to this. Hello. Hi, how are
you? Hi, John. How are ya? Part

1643
01:34:58,619 --> 01:34:59,759
three of the smear

1644
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,520
Unknown: Yeah, and even for a
long time also vaccine opponent

1645
01:35:02,550 --> 01:35:04,830
opponents weren't particularly
aligned with one political

1646
01:35:04,830 --> 01:35:07,800
party. Here's how and that
Meeks, who's a lifelong

1647
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,250
Republican who runs the Freedom
Foundation of Minnesota, a

1648
01:35:11,250 --> 01:35:12,990
conservative think tank. Here's
how she put it.

1649
01:35:13,230 --> 01:35:17,220
In the early days. It really is
kind of where the crunchy

1650
01:35:17,220 --> 01:35:19,350
granola left meets the far
right.

1651
01:35:19,890 --> 01:35:22,920
But that started to change even
before COVID You saw vaccine

1652
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,650
opponents begin to rally under
the banner of what they called

1653
01:35:25,650 --> 01:35:28,830
Liberty or freedom. That seems
to have really resonated with

1654
01:35:28,830 --> 01:35:32,130
conservatives. And then when
COVID came along, resistance of

1655
01:35:32,130 --> 01:35:34,500
vaccines became linked with
resistance to other things like

1656
01:35:34,500 --> 01:35:37,230
closing schools wearing masks.
Everything was filtered through

1657
01:35:37,230 --> 01:35:40,140
this partisan divide. And in
fact, Kennedy does have some

1658
01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:43,530
surprising sources of support.
Donald Trump's former adviser

1659
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,350
election denier Steve Bannon has
publicly suggested Kennedy

1660
01:35:46,350 --> 01:35:49,620
should enter the Republican
primary and the conspiracy

1661
01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:52,590
theorist and Trump ally Roger
Stone has his own suggestion

1662
01:35:52,620 --> 01:35:58,860
that Trump should pick Kennedy
as his running mate. Ah, man,

1663
01:35:59,610 --> 01:36:03,210
Adam Curry: there you go. That's
the ticket is the Trump Kennedy

1664
01:36:03,210 --> 01:36:10,500
ticket. Oh man, oh, man. Well,
there you go. At least we're

1665
01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:14,400
wasting everybody's time with
this drivel bits a smear. It's a

1666
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,820
smear and it's also we got a way
to go before it's time for the

1667
01:36:17,820 --> 01:36:24,060
2024 election. And we're all
being just just noodle noodle

1668
01:36:24,510 --> 01:36:30,540
tea keyed up, teed up and spun
up over this stuff. Oh, it's not

1669
01:36:30,540 --> 01:36:33,930
important people. It's not
important. Go to your local

1670
01:36:33,930 --> 01:36:37,350
school board election meeting go
to your local council meeting

1671
01:36:37,410 --> 01:36:40,050
and that's where it's important
this is dumb it's a distraction

1672
01:36:40,050 --> 01:36:43,620
is not important. And but it
will be fun to watch Joe get

1673
01:36:43,620 --> 01:36:46,680
taken down but that's our job.
So you can just continue focus

1674
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:54,750
on your local community. Please.
And I have a trans a series of

1675
01:36:54,750 --> 01:36:58,530
trans Maoist clips which are
excited to share with you but we

1676
01:36:58,530 --> 01:37:01,020
will do that right after I say
in the morning to you and thank

1677
01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:04,050
you for your courage the man who
put the sea in clusters of

1678
01:37:04,050 --> 01:37:06,480
children ladies and gentlemen
say hello to my friend on the

1679
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:08,760
other end Mr. John Cena

1680
01:37:11,850 --> 01:37:13,650
John C Dvorak: well in the
morning to you Mr. Adam curry

1681
01:37:13,650 --> 01:37:18,390
awesome in the morning all ships
at sea. Feet near subs

1682
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:20,040
underwater games and nights out
there

1683
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,690
Adam Curry: and to boots on the
ground and of course in the

1684
01:37:21,690 --> 01:37:27,780
morning to the trolls and the
troll room Hello. Looking like

1685
01:37:27,780 --> 01:37:32,010
right now? No, I got I got no I
got no no juice. Not come I

1686
01:37:32,010 --> 01:37:37,770
don't see anything. Oh, maybe I
was kicked off somehow. Somebody

1687
01:37:37,770 --> 01:37:45,870
do the count. Well, no, when I
There we go. 1862. There we go.

1688
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:51,300
1862. For today. How's that for
Thursday? Is that low?

1689
01:37:52,290 --> 01:37:55,350
John C Dvorak: No, it's about
for recently it's about right.

1690
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:00,450
It's not low for Thursday's it
would be we'd normally 1750

1691
01:38:00,450 --> 01:38:02,580
would be the median.

1692
01:38:02,850 --> 01:38:05,340
Adam Curry: No. Okay, well, I'm
happy then trolls. Thank you

1693
01:38:05,340 --> 01:38:07,650
very much for being here. But a
lot of disagreement from the

1694
01:38:07,650 --> 01:38:11,850
Trolls. That's bullcrap.
Hypersonic is above five could

1695
01:38:11,850 --> 01:38:16,200
be hypersonic supersonic. very
testy. I think a lot of these

1696
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:21,510
trolls are nerds. I say that
with love. Who were very upset

1697
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:25,200
about SpaceX launch I think that
they're upset oh my god man who

1698
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:25,830
was watching Oh,

1699
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:28,800
John C Dvorak: they're not
nobody cares. Exactly. I think

1700
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,900
most people are excited when a
missile blows up.

1701
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:32,820
Adam Curry: I think that's why
they watch Okay, man,

1702
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:35,100
John C Dvorak: I wish they would
have blowed up on the right

1703
01:38:36,090 --> 01:38:38,700
Adam Curry: on the pad but that
would not be the MO The Mo is to

1704
01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:42,390
blow up above the pad. So we can
get more more on the on the pad.

1705
01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:45,750
Yes, indeed. The trolls are in
the troll room you can join them

1706
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:49,770
a troll room.io Or you can get a
modern podcast app. This is very

1707
01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:53,160
important because any if you're
seeing your favorite podcast

1708
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,010
disappearing, which is happening
in alarming rate, particularly

1709
01:38:56,010 --> 01:39:00,360
off of Spotify, but also of
others like Apple for the

1710
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,660
craziest reasons, you know, like
but Kennedy Jr ha.

1711
01:39:04,410 --> 01:39:07,020
John C Dvorak: Oh, nothing. I'm
just trying to get this web

1712
01:39:07,020 --> 01:39:08,730
browser to work and mumbling at
it.

1713
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,140
Adam Curry: Oh, you're Bravo.

1714
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,150
John C Dvorak: My bravo bravo
browser if she keeps playing me

1715
01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:17,640
movies, what the hell's wrong
with his browser?

1716
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,760
Adam Curry: Go to podcast
apps.com and get one of these

1717
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,330
modern podcast apps with all the
cool new features 20 of them and

1718
01:39:27,330 --> 01:39:29,580
you're and you can import your
subscriptions from your old

1719
01:39:29,580 --> 01:39:32,490
podcast app, not a problem. Run
them side by side for a bit. See

1720
01:39:32,490 --> 01:39:35,850
which one you like. Let me know.
Of course we like podcast

1721
01:39:35,850 --> 01:39:40,710
addict, podcast guru podcast pod
verse, And curio caster because

1722
01:39:40,740 --> 01:39:43,890
they bring you the live stream
right there with the chat room,

1723
01:39:43,890 --> 01:39:46,770
the troll room. It's beautiful
stuff. It's brand new. It's

1724
01:39:46,770 --> 01:39:53,040
podcast. apps.com. We also have
no agenda social.com where

1725
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,920
people like to tag Adam and John
in very long threads about stuff

1726
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,250
we don't care about and then say
you vote no, no, no, we're not

1727
01:39:59,250 --> 01:40:02,490
going to do that. You can follow
us. Don't tag us in all your

1728
01:40:02,670 --> 01:40:06,030
long boring conversations,
please. Adam at no agenda

1729
01:40:06,030 --> 01:40:09,030
social.com Jhansi Dvorak no
agenda social.com. That is a

1730
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:12,000
place where people like to hang
out and discuss stuff. And

1731
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,240
there's a lot of going on. We
have 10,000 slots. I think

1732
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,850
they're full. Now you can't
join. But you can as I said,

1733
01:40:17,850 --> 01:40:22,230
Follow because it's a mastodons
part of the fediverse. Would

1734
01:40:22,230 --> 01:40:25,350
like to thank the artist for
episode. What are you laughing?

1735
01:40:26,790 --> 01:40:28,230
John C Dvorak: Sorry, I went to
the art because we're going to

1736
01:40:28,230 --> 01:40:32,370
discuss the art. Oh, okay. Nice.
And there was one a crack me up

1737
01:40:32,370 --> 01:40:33,120
sorry, Episode

1738
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:39,540
Adam Curry: 1547, which we
titled A Sally a nice, I guess

1739
01:40:39,540 --> 01:40:42,300
the old word for Karen, in a
way.

1740
01:40:43,230 --> 01:40:45,750
John C Dvorak: And actually,
specifically as the old it was

1741
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:49,290
the old word for a woman who was
a sorority sister.

1742
01:40:49,380 --> 01:40:52,740
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go.
That's right. Now, we could not

1743
01:40:52,740 --> 01:40:56,550
find any art on the existing new
Submissions page that we thought

1744
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:59,310
was appropriate or liked enough
to choose. So we went into the

1745
01:40:59,310 --> 01:41:03,780
archives. And, interestingly,
enough, came up with something

1746
01:41:03,780 --> 01:41:07,590
we had not used before. I'm not
sure exactly why this missed out

1747
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:10,170
when it was submitted back in
the day, just because there was

1748
01:41:10,170 --> 01:41:14,250
a better piece. It was from
capitalist agenda. And this was

1749
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:18,990
the Rubik's cube with mainstream
media logos. And, and, and just

1750
01:41:18,990 --> 01:41:24,360
looking at it again. What a
great piece. Yeah, people really

1751
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:29,100
liked this and I feel good that
we were able to, to use this

1752
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:31,950
after and was it this was months
ago. I think you submitted this

1753
01:41:31,950 --> 01:41:32,580
maybe longer?

1754
01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:36,000
John C Dvorak: I think it's I
think it was the 1300s

1755
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:40,650
Adam Curry: Okay, that's quite
some several months ago. So we

1756
01:41:40,650 --> 01:41:44,130
thank you very much capitalist
agenda. And oh, yes, I can see.

1757
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,630
I mean, the top one top left,
from Nico.

1758
01:41:49,740 --> 01:41:53,970
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, no, it
was an you'll see it. Okay, so

1759
01:41:54,270 --> 01:41:57,540
that is that's good. But just a
better one. Yes. Notice there's

1760
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,790
Adam Curry: already the artists
are having a good time letting

1761
01:42:02,850 --> 01:42:06,690
letting us know that they are
all in on on submissions for

1762
01:42:06,690 --> 01:42:11,070
today's show. And as I said, you
know, we had a mike Riley piece,

1763
01:42:11,070 --> 01:42:13,260
lick the world, which you didn't
like because you didn't like you

1764
01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:15,360
don't like a tongue licking
anything, I guess is what you

1765
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:16,710
didn't like, what was the
problem? We

1766
01:42:16,710 --> 01:42:18,450
John C Dvorak: love one thing,
it reminds you the Rolling

1767
01:42:18,450 --> 01:42:23,130
Stones logo. It doesn't. So it's
derivative. So I don't like

1768
01:42:23,130 --> 01:42:27,870
that. And then I just thought it
was a kind of a, it wasn't? I

1769
01:42:27,870 --> 01:42:30,690
don't know, it just didn't have
any real life to it. I mean, I

1770
01:42:30,690 --> 01:42:34,770
saw the data piece. I mean, it
was another one I thought was

1771
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,040
nice. But I didn't have any. The
Turing test was scary. But we're

1772
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,500
Scaramanga with the robot.

1773
01:42:41,190 --> 01:42:44,070
Adam Curry: It looked like that
cartoon series.

1774
01:42:44,670 --> 01:42:46,920
John C Dvorak: And it just it
was it didn't have any life. It

1775
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,350
didn't have any zip had there
was another one that had too

1776
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:49,560
many

1777
01:42:49,890 --> 01:42:52,170
Adam Curry: boob jokes in there.
But that wasn't enough. Bucha

1778
01:42:52,170 --> 01:42:53,400
jokes are fabulous. I

1779
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,890
John C Dvorak: have to give him
credit for that. Great.

1780
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,860
Adam Curry: We have a corner of
the internet, also a capitalist

1781
01:42:58,860 --> 01:43:03,480
agenda, which just did not. I
mean, didn't it just didn't make

1782
01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:06,990
it. You know? It wasn't quite
there. What else do we have?

1783
01:43:06,990 --> 01:43:08,400
That was about it, I think

1784
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,220
John C Dvorak: wasn't anything
but of testosterone

1785
01:43:11,310 --> 01:43:13,320
Adam Curry: that jokes which
weren't really funny.

1786
01:43:14,340 --> 01:43:15,930
John C Dvorak: Because there
wasn't that many submissions. I

1787
01:43:15,930 --> 01:43:19,320
think the show didn't have the
kind of material that did that.

1788
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:21,030
Calls

1789
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:23,130
Adam Curry: for art. Yes. In
fact, that's exactly what you

1790
01:43:23,130 --> 01:43:28,380
said. At the time. You said it,
I don't think it has. I just

1791
01:43:28,380 --> 01:43:32,580
don't think it has it. We just
didn't have the topics that made

1792
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:36,210
it work for everybody. And still
we have artists pulling stuff

1793
01:43:36,210 --> 01:43:39,990
out of their butts doing their
best and I think probably

1794
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:42,750
because we were looking at a
capitalist agenda on the tongue.

1795
01:43:42,750 --> 01:43:46,650
That's probably how you came.
No, that was Mike Riley, on the

1796
01:43:46,650 --> 01:43:49,620
corner of the internet with the
Mole. That's probably how we got

1797
01:43:49,620 --> 01:43:53,400
to it. Anyway, no, well, how did
you get to it then?

1798
01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:56,850
John C Dvorak: I saw capitalist
agenda thing I know for a fact

1799
01:43:56,850 --> 01:43:59,760
that capitalist capitalist
agenda along with correct a

1800
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:04,200
record and a number of other
people have like 10 or 12 pages

1801
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:08,130
of backed up art. Because they
submitted so much over the last

1802
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,670
few years that I did have to be
a piece in there because I've

1803
01:44:11,670 --> 01:44:15,510
actually gone to the well at
capitalist agendas page did this

1804
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:20,040
specific page for some artwork
for the newsletter and so I

1805
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:21,840
figured out it's gotta be
something here and so I click

1806
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,540
click clicked and find was
pretty deep in there was like,

1807
01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:27,210
page four or five, something
like that.

1808
01:44:27,269 --> 01:44:29,279
Adam Curry: A beautiful piece
capitalist agenda. Thank you so

1809
01:44:29,279 --> 01:44:31,979
much. We appreciate the work you
do. And then No, of course, the

1810
01:44:31,979 --> 01:44:35,759
work that all the artists do. It
just wasn't there this time. And

1811
01:44:35,759 --> 01:44:38,549
that's, you know, this type of
criticism and being very

1812
01:44:38,579 --> 01:44:42,059
discerning as as art directors.
This is what gets people like

1813
01:44:42,059 --> 01:44:44,459
Roger roundy high paying jobs,
you know, which

1814
01:44:44,460 --> 01:44:46,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it also
gets him to quit doing anything

1815
01:44:46,980 --> 01:44:47,430
for us.

1816
01:44:49,530 --> 01:44:51,780
Adam Curry: That's not true.
That's true. So

1817
01:44:52,290 --> 01:44:54,900
John C Dvorak: typical is
typical. As far as flex those

1818
01:44:54,900 --> 01:44:56,790
guys is really the way it goes.

1819
01:44:56,820 --> 01:44:59,490
Adam Curry: It's all part of our
value for value system. This is

1820
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:04,410
what we run on, you know, I hear
these reports of Oh, yeah. Oh,

1821
01:45:04,410 --> 01:45:08,040
this this podcast is number one
on the charts. It has 2 million

1822
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:12,420
downloads a month, I think, Wow.
You know, we have a lot more

1823
01:45:12,420 --> 01:45:17,280
than that. But we'd have to be
doing meetings and playing ads

1824
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,830
and wouldn't be able to talk
about all the things we, we'd

1825
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:22,440
like to talk about because it
might be a conflict, or we'd

1826
01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:25,470
have to be careful, you know,
Oh, can we talk about a vaccine

1827
01:45:25,470 --> 01:45:30,810
to even talk about Joe Biden
without getting pulled, and

1828
01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:33,360
people go after us and attack us
and try to get rid of our ads.

1829
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:37,650
So for over working on 16 years,
we have not done that we've

1830
01:45:37,650 --> 01:45:42,030
always relied on you the
listening public, which we call

1831
01:45:42,030 --> 01:45:44,760
producers for very specific
reasons. You help us with your

1832
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,150
time, your talent, and your
treasure. And we like to

1833
01:45:48,150 --> 01:45:51,660
highlight our executive and
Associate Executive producers as

1834
01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:54,360
quickly in the show as possible,
just like Hollywood. And before

1835
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:59,670
we get to the first one on the
spreadsheet. I have a internet

1836
01:45:59,670 --> 01:46:03,960
donation which was handed to me
in Czech form. And this is from

1837
01:46:05,580 --> 01:46:10,560
Mike Schweitzer. And Mike is the
guitar player for the band mercy

1838
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,950
knee which Tina and I went to
see after the show on Sunday, if

1839
01:46:13,950 --> 01:46:17,340
you remember went down to San
Antonio. We went to went to see

1840
01:46:17,340 --> 01:46:17,790
them and

1841
01:46:17,790 --> 01:46:19,860
John C Dvorak: it's funny every
time you say that. I always

1842
01:46:19,860 --> 01:46:23,880
think of San Antonio as above
you but it's always down below.

1843
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:24,270
It's down

1844
01:46:24,270 --> 01:46:29,070
Adam Curry: below. So they said
hey, you know the band is big.

1845
01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:31,800
The big no agenda fans and I'm
like, Okay, we'll see how big a

1846
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,440
fan they are. First of all turns
out you remember Barry on the

1847
01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:39,540
last show donated $500 Barry
Grol Yeah, well, he's also in

1848
01:46:39,540 --> 01:46:43,410
the band and he wanted to donate
before anyone else and but he

1849
01:46:43,410 --> 01:46:46,710
didn't have a note. So we gave
him a double up Carlos didn't

1850
01:46:46,710 --> 01:46:51,810
notice. Yeah, that was Barry is
exactly. So he put that in and

1851
01:46:51,810 --> 01:46:55,680
then we roll up backstage very,
very swanky. And you know,

1852
01:46:55,710 --> 01:47:00,120
there's the buses. And then Mike
he's a guitar player comes out

1853
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,870
and he's got a curry Devorah
Consulting Group t shirt on

1854
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,380
which is doesn't exist. I mean,
the group exists but the t shirt

1855
01:47:07,380 --> 01:47:11,790
doesn't exist. He's he's had his
their merch guys make this up.

1856
01:47:14,430 --> 01:47:16,140
And he played the whole concert
with

1857
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:18,210
John C Dvorak: it. That's got to
be pretty baffling.

1858
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,210
Adam Curry: baffling to the
audience. I think.

1859
01:47:21,540 --> 01:47:23,430
John C Dvorak: That's what
that's what I meant baffling to

1860
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:25,320
the audience. Yeah, so he did

1861
01:47:25,530 --> 01:47:29,130
Adam Curry: give us one each. So
yours will be forthcoming. And

1862
01:47:29,130 --> 01:47:34,650
he gave us a check for $1,033
and a note. Thanks so much for

1863
01:47:34,650 --> 01:47:36,600
the greatest podcast in the
universe. You guys are like the

1864
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,390
media methadone. No way could I
have ever detox from my

1865
01:47:39,390 --> 01:47:42,390
addiction to the news without
your help? I was hitting them

1866
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:44,790
out a little over a year ago
with one of my closest friends

1867
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:48,000
and bandmates Nathan. That's
Nathan Cochran of Franklin's up

1868
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,030
Nathan is the bass player,
Franklin, Tennessee. Haven't

1869
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:54,090
missed an episode since since
and I'm always waiting with

1870
01:47:54,090 --> 01:47:57,810
anticipation to see what John
will be putting the C in next.

1871
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:02,250
Enclosing donation. Nathan
donation No it's a Nathan mouth

1872
01:48:02,250 --> 01:48:06,030
hit donation. It's a mic
donation. And closes my long

1873
01:48:06,030 --> 01:48:09,810
overdue first donation of 1033.
Which I believe officially D

1874
01:48:09,810 --> 01:48:12,540
deuces and knights meet well we
will officially do you do?

1875
01:48:14,340 --> 01:48:17,820
You've been de Deus. I would
like to request the title sir.

1876
01:48:17,820 --> 01:48:22,320
Shmoo of the six strings. Sorry
for the savage SLIS fest. Yes,

1877
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,680
thank you. And we'd love Weller
and ribeye at the roundtable I'd

1878
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,440
like to add a big thanks to Adam
for allowing us all a front row

1879
01:48:28,440 --> 01:48:30,960
seat to his family's faith
journey greatly encourages my

1880
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:34,140
own face seeing God's work in
the lives of others. No jingles,

1881
01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:39,570
no karma, just Jide to be in the
end a family. And it was a great

1882
01:48:39,570 --> 01:48:43,500
show. It was a very impressive
show. I'd say like 3000 people

1883
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:49,680
in the like the Boeing something
because you own the list. I put

1884
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,200
them on the list. Yes, of
course. I put them on the list.

1885
01:48:52,230 --> 01:48:56,580
And then I have one. Wait, no,
that comes after. I'll do this

1886
01:48:56,580 --> 01:48:59,100
one. And then I have one more
from the meetup and thank you

1887
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:02,340
again guys. You've heard very,
very kind and gracious was a lot

1888
01:49:02,340 --> 01:49:07,410
of fun seeing the Mercy Me
concert. David Alcott is an

1889
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:12,000
Eaton Eaton town, New Jersey,
and comes in with $1,000

1890
01:49:13,290 --> 01:49:15,930
Greetings from Central Jersey. I
want to thank my friend Dave

1891
01:49:15,930 --> 01:49:18,390
LaConte for hitting me in the
mouth many years ago, please

1892
01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:24,060
provide me with a dee doo dee
doo. And he says Please cut it

1893
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:27,090
off before that awful 80s
Nintendo synth riff. So I did

1894
01:49:27,090 --> 01:49:30,840
that. Thanks for your courage,
she says. Then I have a donation

1895
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:35,790
that was handed to us in person
at the Nashville meetup by

1896
01:49:35,820 --> 01:49:40,350
Darrell DeVille. And we actually
have a picture of this to

1897
01:49:40,350 --> 01:49:45,600
complete his knighthood with
$600 because he had donated a

1898
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:52,050
total of 400. Previously, he
brought in $600 in $2 bills,

1899
01:49:55,110 --> 01:49:59,190
stacks and stacks of $2 bills.
Now the question is, I mean I

1900
01:49:59,190 --> 01:50:02,730
feel like Uh, you know, he
emptied the bank out, I guess

1901
01:50:02,730 --> 01:50:06,870
they got all the all of the $2
bills. It's like, it seems like

1902
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:10,080
a shame for me to go and give
that back to a bank and then

1903
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,190
send a money order. That's
really cool. I mean, they're,

1904
01:50:14,340 --> 01:50:19,560
they're, you know, the three
stacks of 100 in twos. You want

1905
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:24,660
me to send you a stack. It's
pretty, it's pretty cool to see

1906
01:50:25,380 --> 01:50:25,830
it. I

1907
01:50:25,860 --> 01:50:28,440
John C Dvorak: used to get a I
used to go to the bank and get

1908
01:50:28,440 --> 01:50:33,060
stacks of $2 bills for the
farmers market people and people

1909
01:50:33,060 --> 01:50:35,160
like that, give them out there
and maybe I'll get a kick out of

1910
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:39,030
it. I stopped doing that I
matured. And actually what

1911
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:42,060
really stopped me is one time I
ordered a stack of another one

1912
01:50:42,060 --> 01:50:48,960
of those $200 $200 worth the $20
Bill $2 bills, and I the entire

1913
01:50:49,530 --> 01:50:55,260
stack was all cocaine bills. How
do you know? Because they had

1914
01:50:55,260 --> 01:51:00,180
that funny folding thing where
people fold up the drugs. I

1915
01:51:00,180 --> 01:51:03,690
would every bill was folded. And
so I took it I took the thing

1916
01:51:03,690 --> 01:51:06,480
back to the bank I said what are
you given me this for the

1917
01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:10,860
Federal Reserve selling coke?
What's the deal? And I turned

1918
01:51:10,860 --> 01:51:13,470
them in a desk the last time I
ever got a batch of two's it was

1919
01:51:13,470 --> 01:51:16,920
the end of it. So no, I don't
want to bash shoes.

1920
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:19,860
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we
appreciate it and he will become

1921
01:51:19,950 --> 01:51:25,770
Sergey noi Weaver of Dixie alley
sir Good boy WEVA of Dixie alley

1922
01:51:26,010 --> 01:51:30,510
and we appreciate his support
very much onward with the next

1923
01:51:30,540 --> 01:51:31,410
donation Yeah,

1924
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:36,150
John C Dvorak: night m f dx of
and as you Toronto Ontario comes

1925
01:51:36,150 --> 01:51:39,030
in. I don't really have much of
a note he's just got way too

1926
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:42,120
many jingles which are not going
to do well actually I can do it.

1927
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:46,350
It's just it's just hit it Fauci
Wiese Fauci wheeze while I'm

1928
01:51:46,350 --> 01:51:51,300
high half second pause. No, no,
no. These people I don't I don't

1929
01:51:51,300 --> 01:51:56,400
care what you can do it. But we
don't want to we're not does not

1930
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,730
we're not. This is not like no,
it's no good.

1931
01:52:00,150 --> 01:52:02,370
Adam Curry: If you just say hit
it. I think I can play these for

1932
01:52:02,370 --> 01:52:02,550
them.

1933
01:52:02,610 --> 01:52:04,650
John C Dvorak: Well, okay. Well,
let me start with the thanks for

1934
01:52:04,650 --> 01:52:07,410
the excellent product.
Gentlemen. The only issue is

1935
01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:12,630
starting to show two hours
later. Wow. But oh, he's got

1936
01:52:12,630 --> 01:52:18,480
just a 420 69 donation. Yeah.
Hey, man, I just noticed that

1937
01:52:18,900 --> 01:52:25,860
starting How long is it two hour
thing been going? I think you're

1938
01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:28,560
right. The only thing I've
noticed is the show stuck. Let

1939
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,010
me read it correctly. The only
issue was starting the show two

1940
01:52:32,010 --> 01:52:37,830
hours later. is by the time Adam
says in the morning, John is

1941
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:40,140
damn near afternoon.

1942
01:52:42,210 --> 01:52:48,480
Unknown: Wow, I am really high.
Beautiful

1943
01:52:51,630 --> 01:52:53,100
Adam Curry: There you go. Wasn't
that hard?

1944
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:55,620
John C Dvorak: It was a good
give us a good sequence. I'm not

1945
01:52:55,620 --> 01:53:00,090
gonna say it wasn't. But it's
just shouldn't be discouraged.

1946
01:53:00,090 --> 01:53:00,330
Okay,

1947
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,550
Adam Curry: cuz now I get to
decode this next one. Because

1948
01:53:02,580 --> 01:53:06,570
you know, the stoners came out
for 420. This is of course, what

1949
01:53:06,630 --> 01:53:11,730
Daris unity from Upper Marlboro,
Maryland for 2042. So 420 with

1950
01:53:11,730 --> 01:53:13,800
the most interesting and
important number in the universe

1951
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:18,030
42 as a sense behind it. Peace
blessings, Mad Love Gitmo

1952
01:53:18,030 --> 01:53:21,030
nation. Thank you for your
courage. In the morning who we

1953
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:25,230
who we for 20 Born day night
here turning 34 years old, bless

1954
01:53:25,230 --> 01:53:34,140
belated birthday to Mr. Dubourg
also. Excuse me. My throat is

1955
01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:38,310
short. I'd like to be known as
Sir Daris unity. Sir Darius

1956
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:42,000
Darius unity I'm sorry, Knight
of the sand hill people

1957
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:46,620
roundtable request wild caught
Alaskan salmon JCD style with

1958
01:53:46,620 --> 01:53:52,590
mocktails also in the morning
for 3% off@warranties.com in the

1959
01:53:52,590 --> 01:53:58,950
show notes please. W AR n t e
s.com warranties.com.

1960
01:54:00,570 --> 01:54:01,470
Unknown: For the pun

1961
01:54:01,500 --> 01:54:04,980
Adam Curry: it is 42 cents
because my brand warranties.com

1962
01:54:04,980 --> 01:54:10,680
has 42 as a logo and 3% off with
ITM play please place link with

1963
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,340
my name in the show notes. Yes,
you got it. Oh, camel has

1964
01:54:14,340 --> 01:54:19,110
biscuits please. So I wonder if
Is he on the see on the birthday

1965
01:54:19,110 --> 01:54:21,330
list? I'm gonna have to check
and see if it's on the birthday

1966
01:54:21,330 --> 01:54:27,480
list. Camel has biscuit please
and all the karma birthday no

1967
01:54:27,480 --> 01:54:30,240
agenda meetup currently underway
in DC apologies for the late

1968
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:35,250
notice. Stay safe. Peaceful
tidings Darius unity. Founder of

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01:54:35,250 --> 01:54:36,540
war NTS.

1970
01:54:36,570 --> 01:54:39,420
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. All

1971
01:54:39,420 --> 01:54:39,630
right,

1972
01:54:39,630 --> 01:54:42,600
Adam Curry: brother. No problem
we check. Karma.

1973
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:45,330
John C Dvorak: Next President

1974
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,820
Adam Curry: make sure he's make
sure he's on the list. Yeah,

1975
01:54:47,820 --> 01:54:48,450
he's on the list.

1976
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:53,280
John C Dvorak: Ashley Zaif Minh
in Ontario. Sorry, London,

1977
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:57,510
Ontario, Canada. Happy sixth
anniversary on 422. My husband.

1978
01:54:57,780 --> 01:55:02,310
Wait a minute. Ashley. Yeah. To
my husband and no agenda night

1979
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:07,800
sir Bram of Upper Canada Navia
love always your smokin hot

1980
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:12,570
wife. Okay, go. Cheers to many
more years of no agenda together

1981
01:55:12,570 --> 01:55:17,430
with beers, buds and Boston
terriers,

1982
01:55:17,909 --> 01:55:21,359
Adam Curry: sir stoner Boehner
is from Kent, Washington for 20.

1983
01:55:22,409 --> 01:55:25,019
Adam and John sir stoner Boehner
here with my annual executive

1984
01:55:25,019 --> 01:55:28,229
Prusa donation to the best
podcast in the universe. I can't

1985
01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:30,989
express how much I appreciate
being able to listen to you

1986
01:55:30,989 --> 01:55:34,319
twice a week. Thank you for the
amygdala maintenance and please

1987
01:55:34,319 --> 01:55:37,349
share my karma to all have no
agenda nation. Thanks, sir.

1988
01:55:37,349 --> 01:55:40,259
Stoner Boehner. You've got
karma.

1989
01:55:42,150 --> 01:55:45,720
John C Dvorak: Onwards Mike, the
POLYMATH polymath know if he is

1990
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:50,970
a polymath, Indianapolis,
Indiana. That means he does

1991
01:55:50,970 --> 01:55:55,230
numbers real good. This is Mike.
The polymath I asked for

1992
01:55:55,230 --> 01:56:02,100
official de douching de deuced
although I've been donate, I've

1993
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:05,070
donated many a meetup. I have
yet to be fully cleansed I

1994
01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:12,270
hereby bequeath. I can see that
yeah, yes. Mike Yes, polymath

1995
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:16,890
he'd likely uses the word
bequeath. Yes, I hereby bequeath

1996
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:22,500
for 19.93 in honor of my day of
birth, and the final day of the

1997
01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:27,120
Waco siege at Mark at Mount
Carmel. Well, I prefer the

1998
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:31,080
history of April 19 1775. With
Paul Revere is right in the shot

1999
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,420
heard around the world, I would
be remiss in neglecting your

2000
01:56:33,420 --> 01:56:35,730
knowledge. The dark day that
occurred 30 years ago as I

2001
01:56:35,730 --> 01:56:39,060
emerged into this world a
newborn baby. I'm turning 30 On

2002
01:56:39,060 --> 01:56:41,910
Wednesday, and I can think of no
better way to celebrate than to

2003
01:56:41,940 --> 01:56:46,110
humbly donate to that greatest
podcast in the universe. I asked

2004
01:56:46,110 --> 01:56:50,340
for jobs karma for my business,
easy peasy garden solutions.

2005
01:56:52,890 --> 01:56:57,180
Easy peasy garden solutions in
Indianapolis, Indiana and for

2006
01:56:57,180 --> 01:57:02,340
podcar around there abouts. And
for podcasting karma for the

2007
01:57:02,340 --> 01:57:06,780
easy peasy podcast. I build and
maintain a number of veggie

2008
01:57:06,780 --> 01:57:12,450
gardens in the Indiana
Indianapolis area. And I discuss

2009
01:57:12,450 --> 01:57:15,150
a variety of topics on my show
sometimes with new and

2010
01:57:15,150 --> 01:57:19,200
interesting guests. Know jingles
bello sharpens respect when hurt

2011
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:22,320
thanks a million for all you do
Mike? The poly poly

2012
01:57:26,670 --> 01:57:28,920
Unknown: ESP ICT jobs,

2013
01:57:29,070 --> 01:57:33,330
jobs, jobs and jobs or jobs.

2014
01:57:37,530 --> 01:57:39,930
Adam Curry: Then we got those
crazy indie people the indie na

2015
01:57:39,930 --> 01:57:43,740
meetup gotta report later. 335
Switcheroo raffle donation from

2016
01:57:43,740 --> 01:57:46,920
the March Indianapolis no agenda
meet up for Amy Thurmond. That

2017
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:53,730
means Amy gets the the executive
producer ship there. Okay. I've

2018
01:57:53,730 --> 01:57:56,700
done the switcheroo. Adam and
John my husband sir Craig of the

2019
01:57:56,700 --> 01:58:01,080
Dark Moon and I first by the way
I met these folks they were they

2020
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:05,220
came to Nashville. They came to
the Nashville meetup. And I I'm

2021
01:58:05,220 --> 01:58:05,610
sorry.

2022
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:06,960
Unknown: They're everywhere.

2023
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,380
Adam Curry: The Indiana people
it's pretty insane. They're

2024
01:58:10,380 --> 01:58:13,530
everywhere they are my husband
sir Craig the Darkmoon and I

2025
01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:15,870
attended her first ever no
agenda meetup last Sunday. Oh

2026
01:58:15,870 --> 01:58:18,330
wait. This is different. The
Crossroads of America

2027
01:58:18,330 --> 01:58:21,600
Indianapolis in a tribal meetup
and the spirit distillation of

2028
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:26,160
the mash house at West Fork
whiskey in Westfield, Indiana. I

2029
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,310
am honored to be the winner of
the donation raffle appreciate

2030
01:58:29,310 --> 01:58:31,950
all who contributed as this puts
me on the path to becoming a

2031
01:58:31,950 --> 01:58:36,510
dame. Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah, the meetup was fantastic.

2032
01:58:36,510 --> 01:58:39,510
The Indiana crown is welcoming
and fun truly a great

2033
01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:43,110
experience. Many thanks to Sir
Mark and de Maria for Oregon.

2034
01:58:43,140 --> 01:58:46,080
That's who came to Nashville.
Sir Mark and de Maria for

2035
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,960
organizing and more people came
it was it was it was insane how

2036
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:54,210
many people came? No jingles? No
current but a deducing you've

2037
01:58:54,210 --> 01:58:57,600
been de deuced you got it.

2038
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:04,680
John C Dvorak: We're with
Andrew. Oh, Donahoe. In Smeaton,

2039
01:59:04,770 --> 01:59:12,510
Saskatchewan. Good afternoon.
This email coincides with my

2040
01:59:12,510 --> 01:59:17,310
first donation to the show for
333. Just want to thank you and

2041
01:59:17,310 --> 01:59:20,610
John for all that you do. I
started listening after hearing

2042
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:26,490
Adam on the Joe Rogan experience
just before the pandemic hit. No

2043
01:59:26,490 --> 01:59:29,580
agenda immediately became a
number one listen as a podcast

2044
01:59:29,580 --> 01:59:34,410
it truly is the best podcast in
the universe. I should have

2045
01:59:34,410 --> 01:59:38,280
donated sooner I know. I'm a
super douche. Hoping this

2046
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:42,210
donation helps make amends.
Please give me a D douchey.

2047
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:48,840
You've been D deuced. Sincerely,
Andrew O'Donoghue

2048
01:59:49,020 --> 01:59:50,820
Adam Curry: a lot of people who
came to the meetup who hadn't

2049
01:59:50,820 --> 01:59:54,270
been listening releases 2019 I
mean pandemic listeners we got a

2050
01:59:54,270 --> 01:59:59,100
lot of new people in the during
the pandemic. Of course there

2051
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:03,600
were centric where A timer to
trick Good work. Good work on

2052
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:08,460
spreading that Wuhan thing John.
Well done well done. We go to

2053
02:00:08,460 --> 02:00:11,490
our first Associate Executive
producer Tom wrecker from

2054
02:00:11,610 --> 02:00:17,850
emails, emails, emails,
Pennsylvania 293 17. I'm sending

2055
02:00:17,850 --> 02:00:21,750
you guys a value for value
royalty payment. My friend and I

2056
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:24,990
started a podcast and website
last year and we're doing things

2057
02:00:24,990 --> 02:00:27,600
but no agenda. Wait, no jingles,
no karma. Just a lot of

2058
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,420
appreciation for what you guys
have created and continue to do

2059
02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:33,990
to the no agenda family members
who enjoy movie reviews or are

2060
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:37,080
wondering if a film is worth a
watch. You can throw out those

2061
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:41,460
rotten tomatoes and check out
the daily ratings.com for the

2062
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:46,440
daily ratings podcast. Let's go
lick the world. Nice. I'll put

2063
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:48,120
that in your next year name as
well.

2064
02:00:48,270 --> 02:00:50,430
John C Dvorak: Your Rotten
Tomatoes has been corrupted.

2065
02:00:51,150 --> 02:00:54,210
Adam Curry: I've never I don't
look at ratings or any of that

2066
02:00:54,210 --> 02:00:57,090
stuff ever. Anyway, I don't
trust it all like Yelp. I've

2067
02:00:57,090 --> 02:01:01,890
never been a Yelper Now trust
me, it's all gamed. gamed

2068
02:01:03,330 --> 02:01:07,110
John C Dvorak: he Brooke
Mortensen and Sierra Vista,

2069
02:01:07,140 --> 02:01:11,160
Arizona. Megan Kelly's new
listener here.

2070
02:01:11,190 --> 02:01:12,750
Adam Curry: Ooh, Megan donation.

2071
02:01:13,589 --> 02:01:17,069
John C Dvorak: Make a donation.
I love and appreciate all of you

2072
02:01:17,069 --> 02:01:22,109
so much. I found many gems like
no agenda through her humble,

2073
02:01:22,289 --> 02:01:27,089
generous, sassy self. And then I
started listening to Rogan

2074
02:01:27,089 --> 02:01:33,719
because of you. Oh, that's a
switcheroo. Yeah. So you're

2075
02:01:33,719 --> 02:01:40,199
welcome, Joe. Yep. High five to
$22.22 as a road duck

2076
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:43,860
Adam Curry: from her. And
Monday, I will be back on the

2077
02:01:43,860 --> 02:01:44,820
Megyn Kelly show.

2078
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:46,800
John C Dvorak: What's the topic?

2079
02:01:47,370 --> 02:01:52,200
Adam Curry: I don't know what
the topic is. I've been asked to

2080
02:01:52,230 --> 02:01:54,870
I don't know. I've been asked to
come on the show. That's all I

2081
02:01:54,870 --> 02:01:55,230
know.

2082
02:01:55,919 --> 02:01:57,059
John C Dvorak: Maybe just set
up.

2083
02:01:58,710 --> 02:02:04,290
Adam Curry: It's hard to I think
it's hard doing a show. Five

2084
02:02:04,290 --> 02:02:07,230
days a week, you gotta get a
guest. And it's like, and my

2085
02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:09,420
numbers up. Don't you think
that's kind of how it goes. I

2086
02:02:09,420 --> 02:02:09,930
mean, that's

2087
02:02:10,410 --> 02:02:13,230
John C Dvorak: if that's you. I
don't know if I've lectured

2088
02:02:13,230 --> 02:02:15,690
enough about why that's a bad
idea.

2089
02:02:17,730 --> 02:02:19,110
Adam Curry: Being doing an
interview show?

2090
02:02:19,530 --> 02:02:21,570
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. I
mean, you can do interviews

2091
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:26,220
every so often. But a daily
interview showed requires a full

2092
02:02:26,220 --> 02:02:27,270
time Booker.

2093
02:02:27,540 --> 02:02:29,580
Adam Curry: And you know,
there's so much competition so

2094
02:02:29,580 --> 02:02:32,490
you have Joe Rogan, which I
still consider to be the mack

2095
02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:36,330
daddy you know that's that's the
all time Johnny Carson Tonight

2096
02:02:36,330 --> 02:02:37,110
Show level.

2097
02:02:37,170 --> 02:02:39,480
John C Dvorak: Ya know, it's the
number one it is the show.

2098
02:02:39,509 --> 02:02:43,229
Adam Curry: It is the show. And
then we have Bo but else do we

2099
02:02:43,229 --> 02:02:45,989
have out Glenn Beck? I think
Glenn Beck is huge. I think

2100
02:02:45,989 --> 02:02:50,489
that's also a big show. We have
a dip compared to not compare

2101
02:02:50,519 --> 02:02:51,479
not to be compared.

2102
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:52,950
John C Dvorak: It's not
comparable. But then you have

2103
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:53,250
everyone

2104
02:02:53,250 --> 02:02:55,560
Adam Curry: who all go on to
pool boy pool boy pool. Boy, I'm

2105
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:58,920
never going on the Playboy show.
That would be the equivalent of

2106
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:01,860
going on Letterman when you're
when you've been discovered by

2107
02:03:01,860 --> 02:03:08,670
Carson. Now that I think that
would be rude. Don't you think?

2108
02:03:09,660 --> 02:03:11,940
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
it'd be lousy. Yeah,

2109
02:03:11,940 --> 02:03:13,110
Adam Curry: I'm Yes. For

2110
02:03:13,110 --> 02:03:14,400
John C Dvorak: more reasons than
one.

2111
02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:19,950
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, okay. It's
West Virginia. wants to travel

2112
02:03:19,950 --> 02:03:20,700
to West Virginia.

2113
02:03:21,780 --> 02:03:23,700
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, that's
your home. That's your stomping

2114
02:03:23,700 --> 02:03:24,060
ground?

2115
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:30,390
Adam Curry: For three months, my
alma mater, you're right. 208 16

2116
02:03:30,390 --> 02:03:33,690
comes to us from Victoria,
Australia. Altona north from

2117
02:03:33,690 --> 02:03:36,840
Denee. Denise says, Hey, Adam
and John The number represents

2118
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:45,060
my daughter's due dates.
2080220 816.

2119
02:03:45,660 --> 02:03:46,620
John C Dvorak: Maybe much?

2120
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,850
Adam Curry: Oh, I wonder if this
was? Is that the Australian

2121
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:52,620
number? Is that the UI?

2122
02:03:52,620 --> 02:03:54,210
John C Dvorak: Are you asking
the wrong guy? Yeah, I'm

2123
02:03:54,210 --> 02:03:58,500
Adam Curry: just just asking in
their first time donor. I first

2124
02:03:58,500 --> 02:04:01,680
heard your show from Carl and
who are these podcasts back in

2125
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,620
2020. Thank you for your
honesty, integrity and producing

2126
02:04:04,620 --> 02:04:08,010
a great show. It irked me to
hear Adam butcher the

2127
02:04:08,010 --> 02:04:12,000
pronunciation of Xi Jinping
recently. So I'm offering a

2128
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:18,150
pronunciation note. The X sound
or the z sound in China is

2129
02:04:18,150 --> 02:04:21,960
unvoiced and sound similar to
the English if spoken through a

2130
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:28,470
grimace or wide smile. I'm
trying Xi Jinping. Okay. And

2131
02:04:28,470 --> 02:04:31,050
then there's a he has a whole
bunch of complaints. I'm I was

2132
02:04:31,050 --> 02:04:33,780
wrong. I was wrong about
Australian beach. Everything's

2133
02:04:33,780 --> 02:04:36,810
great. There's no Chinese beef.
I was wrong about their money.

2134
02:04:37,050 --> 02:04:39,180
Everything's great. Nothing's
wrong with the money in

2135
02:04:39,180 --> 02:04:43,710
Australia. I'm wrong. I'm wrong.
I'm wrong. I'm wrong. That's

2136
02:04:43,710 --> 02:04:44,790
kind of how I sum it up.

2137
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:47,820
John C Dvorak: And I think
that's pretty accurate.

2138
02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:49,740
Adam Curry: And lastly, I
recently listened to Adam

2139
02:04:49,740 --> 02:04:52,800
discussing his conversion on the
JRE. Congratulations. I was

2140
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:56,190
blown away by the difference in
audio quality. I don't know what

2141
02:04:56,190 --> 02:05:00,240
you're doing over here, but keep
up the good work. Yes. Some

2142
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:05,040
people do say that our audio
quality, ruins ruins people

2143
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,430
listening to other other
podcasts. And so you know what I

2144
02:05:08,430 --> 02:05:09,960
say? No,

2145
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:14,820
John C Dvorak: I say it's a
crime, that you have not won an

2146
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:18,150
audio engineering award of some
sort because you're the one

2147
02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:22,260
responsible for the audio sound,
not me. And you should get an

2148
02:05:22,260 --> 02:05:28,470
award from the AES or someone or
a podcasting operation for the

2149
02:05:28,470 --> 02:05:30,390
sound, it just baffles me

2150
02:05:30,420 --> 02:05:33,390
Adam Curry: whereas the podcast
Academy I deserve it.

2151
02:05:36,510 --> 02:05:38,520
John C Dvorak: You get nothing.
This is the back. This is the

2152
02:05:38,520 --> 02:05:42,180
problem. You're you now you
understand the talent is one

2153
02:05:42,180 --> 02:05:47,910
side of the mic. And yeah, hind
it, you know, never gets enough

2154
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:48,510
recognition.

2155
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:52,020
Adam Curry: They I'm sure the
podcast industrial complex, who

2156
02:05:52,020 --> 02:05:55,260
actually create these types of
awards, which are bullcrap. And

2157
02:05:55,260 --> 02:05:58,590
I've always laughed at. They
don't like me, because I laugh

2158
02:05:58,590 --> 02:06:03,690
at their little little award
shows. The NBS, please. I mean,

2159
02:06:03,690 --> 02:06:06,870
it just sounds like something
like some pharmaceutical thing.

2160
02:06:07,170 --> 02:06:11,850
Here's an ambi. Don't want that.
Thank you, Dan. I

2161
02:06:11,850 --> 02:06:13,740
John C Dvorak: don't know about
the NBS. Oh, that's

2162
02:06:13,740 --> 02:06:16,230
Adam Curry: that's the award of
the industry and there's all

2163
02:06:16,230 --> 02:06:19,830
kinds of it's everyone has
watery. This is the podcast

2164
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:21,120
industrial complex.

2165
02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:22,980
John C Dvorak: You're the
industry.

2166
02:06:23,100 --> 02:06:26,670
Adam Curry: Thank you. Yeah, the
actual one we should

2167
02:06:26,670 --> 02:06:28,590
John C Dvorak: you know what I
thought about this before I

2168
02:06:28,770 --> 02:06:32,610
bring it up. Here we go. Here we
go. We should have the no

2169
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agenda, podcasting awards. I'm
all in was doing for that that

2170
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,540
didn't take much to convince No,
I'm all in there because it will

2171
02:06:42,540 --> 02:06:46,890
be hilarious. But it would be
well, it'll be I don't think it

2172
02:06:46,890 --> 02:06:50,070
would be hilarious. I think we'd
probably come up. It would take

2173
02:06:50,070 --> 02:06:52,440
us a while and these will be
awards. I guess you're supposed

2174
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,620
to do them once a year. But once
we do them once and then we have

2175
02:06:55,620 --> 02:07:00,990
to do them every year. They
would actually be good podcasts.

2176
02:07:01,050 --> 02:07:06,660
Oh yeah. Not repurpose junk from
NPR or want to be junk from NPR

2177
02:07:06,660 --> 02:07:10,110
that wants to be on NPR but it
can't make it none of that

2178
02:07:10,110 --> 02:07:14,100
stuff. There's a lot and you
line podcasts it's a lot of

2179
02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:16,860
work. Okay, we're not doing
exactly

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02:07:17,759 --> 02:07:21,239
Adam Curry: onward the grid left

2181
02:07:21,570 --> 02:07:28,350
John C Dvorak: Cheryl Cheryl
dorsal doors fell in Big Pine

2182
02:07:28,350 --> 02:07:30,990
Key Florida. Wow. Gee douche me.

2183
02:07:32,790 --> 02:07:34,620
Unknown: You've been deep deuced

2184
02:07:36,030 --> 02:07:39,090
John C Dvorak: I was hitting the
mouth by my favorite son sir TJ

2185
02:07:39,090 --> 02:07:43,710
the wrathful going to meet up
outside of Nashville Monday

2186
02:07:43,710 --> 02:07:48,060
night with him love the show.
There's no other like it in the

2187
02:07:48,060 --> 02:07:50,430
universe. So that's a fact. So
under bucks.

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02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:55,260
Adam Curry: This is the wife of
Sir TJ the wrathful who also

2189
02:07:55,260 --> 02:07:58,770
brought his human resources to
the meet up and they're the ones

2190
02:07:58,770 --> 02:08:04,080
that did the we don't talk about
brand and Brandon and his kids

2191
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:08,490
were adorable. Yeah, I said
abused them some more. We need

2192
02:08:08,490 --> 02:08:11,310
more of that stuff. And he said
okay, no problem. I'm doing it.

2193
02:08:11,610 --> 02:08:17,100
JC Swisher in Naples Idaho $200
switch a roofer Joe wall for his

2194
02:08:17,130 --> 02:08:20,760
birthday April 22 Happy birthday
to the love of my life. And the

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02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,850
one who hit me in the mouth.
Well, thank you very much Joe.

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02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:27,390
We're gonna do that. Yeah, I
mean, Joe I'm Jake you JC and

2197
02:08:27,390 --> 02:08:29,850
thank you Joe for hitting JC in
the mouth good work

2198
02:08:31,590 --> 02:08:35,130
John C Dvorak: all right. Okay,
this is gonna be tough because I

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02:08:35,130 --> 02:08:40,170
don't get to this be stained
Duke in name Megan. Holland

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02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:45,330
pretty good pretty close. ITM my
colleague and I this standard is

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02:08:45,330 --> 02:08:49,200
the last 200 bucks. ITM my
colleague and I are going to

2202
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:51,780
meet up this week. And because I
don't want to go. As a

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02:08:51,780 --> 02:08:54,360
freeloader. Here's my donation
might call it will give him a D

2204
02:08:54,360 --> 02:08:54,900
douching.

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02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:58,770
Unknown: De deuced.

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02:08:59,790 --> 02:09:01,770
John C Dvorak: My colleague, on
the other hand, doesn't mind

2207
02:09:01,770 --> 02:09:06,960
going as a freeloader. Please
call out Eric as a douchebag.

2208
02:09:08,970 --> 02:09:10,590
That's the message.

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02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:12,960
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
have oh, that's it. That's the

2210
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:17,070
last one. Let me we're going to
take a second break later on.

2211
02:09:17,670 --> 02:09:19,320
Don't you think we should do a
second break?

2212
02:09:19,650 --> 02:09:21,990
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean,
it's less numbers total than

2213
02:09:21,990 --> 02:09:25,560
last show, which we did when one
pass is not that many left.

2214
02:09:25,590 --> 02:09:29,190
Adam Curry: Okay, well, then let
me just thank a couple people

2215
02:09:29,190 --> 02:09:34,020
for some other donations that we
got at the meetups. $100 from

2216
02:09:34,020 --> 02:09:38,010
Cisco V of the Piedmont 100. And
that's a switcheroo for a smokin

2217
02:09:38,010 --> 02:09:44,850
hot girlfriend siara. We have
Mark and Lisa church $100.

2218
02:09:45,300 --> 02:09:51,720
Professor Tom Gallucci. He came
up with an outstanding

2219
02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:57,900
promotional item the no agenda
sealing wax c e i l i n g. And

2220
02:09:57,900 --> 02:10:01,020
so he actually created a product
now we have sealing wax for your

2221
02:10:01,020 --> 02:10:03,720
important correspondence as a
knight or a dame for your ring.

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02:10:03,990 --> 02:10:07,440
He actually created a product
called no agenda sealing wax and

2223
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:10,590
you can put it on your ceiling
and there's no agenda sealing

2224
02:10:10,590 --> 02:10:17,700
wax.com Stephen West a boob
donation 808 Thank you for the

2225
02:10:17,700 --> 02:10:22,560
community Love and Light he's in
Lewisburg loser Burg, loser bug

2226
02:10:23,610 --> 02:10:26,670
something Tennessee Samantha
West's thanks for hitting me in

2227
02:10:26,670 --> 02:10:32,700
the mouth have some boobs 808
And we had we each got a silver

2228
02:10:32,700 --> 02:10:41,490
dollar from photo by
franklin.com. A Lady Liberty for

2229
02:10:41,490 --> 02:10:43,530
each of you. Thank you very much
beautiful. I will send that to

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02:10:43,530 --> 02:10:47,190
you. And then we got two
beautiful challenge coins and

2231
02:10:47,190 --> 02:10:51,750
$100 from Sir Rory of the duck
river. And he wrote a very nice

2232
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:55,500
long note. And I will forward
that to you as well John, and we

2233
02:10:55,500 --> 02:10:57,870
thank everybody for coming to
the meetup. Just being at the

2234
02:10:57,870 --> 02:11:00,330
meetup was was great. Some
people were being hitting them

2235
02:11:00,330 --> 02:11:04,860
out on the spot and donating $33
Getting on some of those

2236
02:11:05,370 --> 02:11:08,730
wonderful, sustaining donations
and was really nice to see

2237
02:11:08,730 --> 02:11:11,370
everybody. Thank you for coming
out. John's gonna take us

2238
02:11:11,370 --> 02:11:13,110
through the rest of these
donations and then we'll give

2239
02:11:13,110 --> 02:11:15,120
John C Dvorak: you guys a few
left. Let's start with cerveza

2240
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,240
cerveza get it get it? Get it? I
got it. He's in Florissant,

2241
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:23,760
Colorado. $105 Heather Allen in
new Wilmington, Pennsylvania.

2242
02:11:24,450 --> 02:11:29,460
$105. As he goes, she wanted to
do shopping or anything I don't

2243
02:11:29,460 --> 02:11:34,680
know and we'll see it. Know,
Douglas Murray in Missoula,

2244
02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:40,530
Montana 9420 Douglas Murray, and
I'm sorry Douglas Murray was in

2245
02:11:40,530 --> 02:11:44,490
Missoula, Montana. Sir Kevin
McLaughlin is up there with 808

2246
02:11:44,580 --> 02:11:46,920
You know him. He's a locust
North Carolina everyone's

2247
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:52,290
favorite. Edward Owens in
Alameda, California. 808. Kyle

2248
02:11:52,290 --> 02:11:57,690
high in Keizer, Oregon,
switcheroo for his wife, Erin.

2249
02:11:57,690 --> 02:12:03,480
Hi, hag. Ah, I think that's
pronounced Hi. Ha, ha i g h

2250
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:07,050
sounds right. And then he says
it because it's 808 He says I

2251
02:12:07,050 --> 02:12:12,990
love your boobs, babe. Patrick
Coblenz Fairview HireVue tenants

2252
02:12:12,990 --> 02:12:13,500
See

2253
02:12:13,530 --> 02:12:17,310
Adam Curry: he donates as well.
He stays unstoppable pays for

2254
02:12:17,310 --> 02:12:20,820
everything. He makes everything
happen. Patrick, really

2255
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,630
John C Dvorak: any 140 Happy
birthday to his daughter Karen.

2256
02:12:24,660 --> 02:12:26,700
Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Beautiful wife Sarah, who

2257
02:12:26,700 --> 02:12:29,490
Adam Curry: I met I met both his
kids and his wife was great.

2258
02:12:29,759 --> 02:12:33,809
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's nice.
Yes. Raymond Bressler in

2259
02:12:33,809 --> 02:12:37,979
Arlington, Washington. 6996.
Joseph Stegman in 1000, Oaks,

2260
02:12:37,979 --> 02:12:44,129
California. 66. Kevin O'Brien,
Chicago, Illinois. 606. And he's

2261
02:12:44,129 --> 02:12:49,169
getting knighted as Sir Kevin of
the ADF parallel. Standard fair

2262
02:12:49,169 --> 02:12:54,509
will do. So he's on the list. He
is Sir mango meet in Detroit,

2263
02:12:54,509 --> 02:13:01,109
Michigan. 56. This is
interesting. Because I know for

2264
02:13:01,109 --> 02:13:06,629
a fact that Kevin McLaughlin
came in with a second donation

2265
02:13:06,629 --> 02:13:12,299
for 606. Okay, and it's not on
here so it's my may have gotten

2266
02:13:12,299 --> 02:13:14,549
bumped or didn't Ah, I don't
know what happened tomorrow,

2267
02:13:14,789 --> 02:13:18,629
sir. But anyway, thanks to him
again. Sir. Mango, meet Mr.

2268
02:13:18,629 --> 02:13:23,459
David Galloway in Flower Mound,
Texas. 510. Love the Maoist

2269
02:13:23,519 --> 02:13:27,419
revolution segment. Dean Roker
50 People love them. I

2270
02:13:27,420 --> 02:13:29,010
Adam Curry: wish we got more
coming up.

2271
02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:32,550
John C Dvorak: 5510 sure Mark
and Greenwood, Indiana with a

2272
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:36,090
birthday at $53. And this is
switcher roofers, amazing keeper

2273
02:13:36,090 --> 02:13:41,430
de Maria of the Greek kingdoms.
I think it's her birthday. Bob

2274
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:47,370
Butler and coming Georgia 5069
Chris Wichita Chris just playing

2275
02:13:47,370 --> 02:13:52,620
Chris in Wichita, Kansas 5050.
And fan. He's got a birthday for

2276
02:13:52,620 --> 02:13:56,430
his wife and lad and now we got
the $50 donors who have run

2277
02:13:56,430 --> 02:13:58,890
right through these these are
starting with Nathan Cochran.

2278
02:13:58,890 --> 02:14:02,520
His names and locations
Franklin, Tennessee 50 Tatiana

2279
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:06,330
Prince in Hollywood, Florida,
Peter odo in Ridge New York

2280
02:14:06,330 --> 02:14:13,920
Steven Chu Mach in Xenia, Ohio
John John Joan pulse pul s in

2281
02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:18,930
Hernando Beach, Florida gadget
freak 10 in Western Springs,

2282
02:14:18,930 --> 02:14:23,880
Illinois, Alexander per day whoa
in Gig Harbor, Washington Scott

2283
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:27,090
lavender, our friend in
Montgomery, Texas, Sir Andrew

2284
02:14:27,090 --> 02:14:30,840
gusik in Greensboro, North
Carolina, Joe Oswald in Lithia.

2285
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:35,640
Florida, Peter, Andrew Perez in
San Marcos, Texas with a

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02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:42,630
switcheroo credit sister Aida
Aida AI da she's gonna have a

2287
02:14:42,630 --> 02:14:48,870
birthday 60 Matt Illingworth in
Montclair, New Jersey. 50 Robert

2288
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:52,170
case in Mills Springs, North
Carolina. 50 Christie Jones in

2289
02:14:52,620 --> 02:15:01,050
Demarest, Georgia. Steven crummy
in El Cajon, sir by the mighty

2290
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:05,220
in Marietta, Georgia Jerry
Wilson Roth in Saugus,

2291
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:10,530
California and last on the list
is Leanne Shipley in Covington,

2292
02:15:10,530 --> 02:15:13,950
Washington are actually fairly
short list. Yes. Well, we do

2293
02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:14,940
want to thank them all.

2294
02:15:14,970 --> 02:15:17,370
Adam Curry: We're going to make
up for that with lots of nice

2295
02:15:17,370 --> 02:15:20,790
things and birthdays and we have
a black night to deal with

2296
02:15:20,790 --> 02:15:25,740
today. Sir Mike of the New
Jersey lowlands and we missed

2297
02:15:25,740 --> 02:15:28,020
him on the last show. He says
after many months, I finally

2298
02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:30,420
reached the title of night. I'd
like to thank you and Adam for

2299
02:15:30,420 --> 02:15:33,630
keeping me sane in this world of
media nonsense. The show was

2300
02:15:33,630 --> 02:15:37,050
definitely the best podcast in
the universe. That's right. It's

2301
02:15:37,050 --> 02:15:40,230
in the leaked document from
discord. I'd like to request the

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02:15:40,230 --> 02:15:43,350
title of Night of the New Jersey
low lands and have Irish car

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02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:49,590
bombs at the roundtable. That
doesn't sound very nice. Okay,

2304
02:15:49,620 --> 02:15:50,940
Irish car bomb

2305
02:15:50,940 --> 02:15:52,440
John C Dvorak: maybe it's a
drink?

2306
02:15:52,980 --> 02:15:55,800
Adam Curry: I hope so. I don't
know if I like that loving

2307
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:59,190
light. He says sir Mike of the
New Jersey lowland and thank you

2308
02:15:59,190 --> 02:16:05,820
all very much for supporting the
show. Episode 1548. The

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02:16:05,820 --> 02:16:08,430
executive and Associate
Executive producers know by now

2310
02:16:08,730 --> 02:16:12,060
that those are titles you can
have forever. They do not

2311
02:16:12,060 --> 02:16:15,420
expire. You can use them
anywhere credits of showbusiness

2312
02:16:15,450 --> 02:16:19,920
ilk are accepted like IMDB you
can put it on your on your

2313
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:22,860
LinkedIn, just throw it on your
resume and unlike the phonies in

2314
02:16:22,860 --> 02:16:25,830
Hollywood, we will gladly vouch
for you thank you again for

2315
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:30,990
supporting us here no agenda
episode 1548 Our formula is

2316
02:16:30,990 --> 02:16:34,680
this. We go out we hit people in
the mouth

2317
02:16:46,530 --> 02:16:49,140
and of course thank everybody
who came in under 50 for reason

2318
02:16:49,140 --> 02:16:52,740
abandon on an empty or you are
in one of those fantastic

2319
02:16:52,740 --> 02:16:54,900
programs that are sustaining
donations. Thank you

2320
02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:04,980
here's your list for today. We
got Emily wishing her smokin hot

2321
02:17:04,980 --> 02:17:08,580
husband Bruce blessing and your
Happy Birthday turned 37 Today,

2322
02:17:08,850 --> 02:17:12,540
Andrew Perez wishes his sister
Ida a happy birthday she turned

2323
02:17:12,540 --> 02:17:16,950
60 Yesterday, Mike the POLYMATH
turned 30 Yesterday Darius unity

2324
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:20,670
34. Today we had a nice note
from earlier Teressa Marcin

2325
02:17:20,670 --> 02:17:23,940
wishes her son Josh client to
happy birthday for tomorrow Sir

2326
02:17:23,940 --> 02:17:27,360
Mark wants to wish de Maria have
the Greek kingdom's happy

2327
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:30,090
birthday for tomorrow as well.
Christina wishes are a certain

2328
02:17:30,090 --> 02:17:34,830
loin medium rare that Happy
Birthday turned 75 on the 22nd

2329
02:17:35,070 --> 02:17:38,640
JC Swisher wishes Joe wall Happy
Birthday on the 22nd as well

2330
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:41,220
Chris wishes big birthday
greetings for his wife Marquis

2331
02:17:41,220 --> 02:17:45,210
on April. Margie is on April 22.
Patrick kobold the Duke of the

2332
02:17:45,210 --> 02:17:48,750
South switches author, his
daughter Catherine and beautiful

2333
02:17:48,750 --> 02:17:52,200
wife share both a happy birthday
and Jacob Ali wishes his human

2334
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:55,500
resource Naomi Ali a happy
birthday happy birthday from

2335
02:17:55,500 --> 02:18:00,570
everybody here it's the best
podcast in the universe. All

2336
02:18:00,570 --> 02:18:04,920
right, so we have 1234 knights
you've got a black knight on

2337
02:18:04,920 --> 02:18:07,800
deck so it's a we need quite a
blade blade. Oh,

2338
02:18:07,830 --> 02:18:09,780
John C Dvorak: we got this one.
I'll do.

2339
02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:13,620
Adam Curry: Oh, no, that's a
special one. Okay. All right,

2340
02:18:13,620 --> 02:18:19,020
Mike, we know it'll be a black
night. Mike Schweitzer happy to

2341
02:18:19,020 --> 02:18:21,690
see you here my friend Darrell
Deville, Kevin O'Brien and

2342
02:18:21,690 --> 02:18:25,260
Darius unity all of you have
reached the status of Knighthood

2343
02:18:25,530 --> 02:18:28,740
of the no agenda roundtable and
I'm very proud to pronounce the

2344
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:32,490
the as Sir Mike of the New
Jersey lowlands sir Shmoo where

2345
02:18:32,490 --> 02:18:36,870
the six rings sugoi weeba of
Dixie alley Sir Kevin of the ad

2346
02:18:36,870 --> 02:18:40,320
of parallels and Sir Darius
unity night of the sand hill

2347
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:42,570
people for you. We've got
hookers and blow rent boys and

2348
02:18:42,570 --> 02:18:47,130
Chardonnay. wild caught Alaskan
salmon JCD style with mocktails

2349
02:18:47,370 --> 02:18:54,870
we got Irish car bombs. I know
I'm forgetting something here. I

2350
02:18:54,870 --> 02:18:57,630
forgot the weather and ribeye
but it's still on the grill. And

2351
02:18:57,630 --> 02:18:59,670
here we go along with that. Of
course we've gotten mutton and

2352
02:18:59,670 --> 02:19:03,060
meat for those of you who have
not had it yet. While you feast

2353
02:19:03,060 --> 02:19:06,420
on that, and you can slip on
over to no agenda rings.com

2354
02:19:06,660 --> 02:19:09,360
letter and anyone can visit that
you can see those handsome night

2355
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:13,500
and Dame rings. All you have to
do is send us your your details,

2356
02:19:13,500 --> 02:19:16,620
your address and your ring
finger size. And we'll get those

2357
02:19:16,620 --> 02:19:19,770
off to you and thank you again
for becoming knights and a black

2358
02:19:19,770 --> 02:19:23,250
knight here of the no agenda
roundtable. No one said

2359
02:19:29,880 --> 02:19:35,790
well, no surprise. There are a
lot of 420 meetups today. But

2360
02:19:35,790 --> 02:19:38,280
before we get to that we've got
a couple of meetup reports the

2361
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:39,900
first from Indianapolis.

2362
02:19:40,410 --> 02:19:44,040
Unknown: Hi, this is Maria and
this is Mark. We have over 30

2363
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:47,820
people today what an amazing
meetup. We love it. Thank you no

2364
02:19:47,820 --> 02:19:50,130
agenda. John and Adam. You're
the best in the morning.

2365
02:19:50,130 --> 02:19:53,070
This is Emily not a Fed unless
it's Monday through Friday from

2366
02:19:53,070 --> 02:19:57,090
seven three in the morning. Not
from Indianapolis finally drag

2367
02:19:57,090 --> 02:19:58,680
my mom here. Thank you for your
courage

2368
02:19:58,710 --> 02:20:02,430
in the Morning John And Adam PVR
street gang enjoying another

2369
02:20:02,430 --> 02:20:03,930
wonderful meet up here in India.

2370
02:20:03,960 --> 02:20:06,540
Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel
thank you for your courage. I

2371
02:20:06,540 --> 02:20:09,360
wish everybody knew how much
three inches was Bruce

2372
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:11,490
from Indy just drinking some
whiskey

2373
02:20:11,550 --> 02:20:15,810
in the morning Dame Swanee serve
any saying hi to everybody out

2374
02:20:15,810 --> 02:20:16,200
there.

2375
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:19,860
This is Dave Kennedy from Fort
Wayne. I was in Crown boy now an

2376
02:20:19,860 --> 02:20:22,170
ND and I'll see you tomorrow.
Nashville. Thank you for your

2377
02:20:22,170 --> 02:20:22,650
courage.

2378
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:25,500
This is Shannon visiting for
Fort Wayne in the morning. Have

2379
02:20:25,500 --> 02:20:27,960
a great day. Hey, this is Connor
from Westfield. I hate to break

2380
02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:30,210
it to you but every time Fort
Wayne has a meet up Vladimir

2381
02:20:30,210 --> 02:20:34,320
Putin unvaccinated transgender
Ukrainian toddler young I'm with

2382
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:35,790
Connery religious system.

2383
02:20:35,820 --> 02:20:39,060
Carmo been hearing about this
for a long time this my first

2384
02:20:39,060 --> 02:20:41,670
meeting and I loved it. Thank
you very much. Hi, I'm Stephanie

2385
02:20:41,670 --> 02:20:44,940
Carmel. This is Nick from nd
today I met a baby who listens

2386
02:20:44,940 --> 02:20:46,020
to Alex Jones.

2387
02:20:47,880 --> 02:20:51,120
Adam Curry: That's a big group.
And then I got a note from

2388
02:20:51,120 --> 02:20:55,200
Mike's stew like who did the
first Northwest Indiana meet up

2389
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:58,350
in Gary Indiana when no one
showed at the Hard Rock. And

2390
02:20:58,350 --> 02:21:00,960
he's thrilled to report the
second initial Northwest Indiana

2391
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,290
meetup was a rousing success
over a dozen attendees, Knights

2392
02:21:04,290 --> 02:21:07,920
and Dames with their rings mere
slaves like himself, plus some

2393
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,770
very well behaved human
resources. And we're very happy

2394
02:21:10,770 --> 02:21:14,820
that that worked out so well.
Over to Leo Bravo in Los

2395
02:21:14,820 --> 02:21:15,930
Angeles. Hey, everybody,

2396
02:21:15,930 --> 02:21:18,990
Unknown: it's Leo Bravo. I'm at
the meet up number 40 flight at

2397
02:21:18,990 --> 02:21:21,510
the no agenda. I'm passing the
phone around.

2398
02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:23,460
Our folks have nice

2399
02:21:23,460 --> 02:21:27,210
words to say. Hey, Adam and
John. It's Steve in the morning

2400
02:21:27,270 --> 02:21:28,320
in the morning Brett a

2401
02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:29,490
kid interested? Here's

2402
02:21:29,490 --> 02:21:32,580
here. Boom. Shakalaka boom.
Chakalaka

2403
02:21:32,820 --> 02:21:36,450
in the morning it's Dame Kendra.
John, we love you hallelujah.

2404
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:39,660
In the morning. This is Angie
representing the ranch in the

2405
02:21:39,660 --> 02:21:44,310
morning Hui Hui. This is Sir OG
God caster and

2406
02:21:45,810 --> 02:21:48,690
Adam Curry: blessings to you.
Steve Webb and Leanne nice if

2407
02:21:48,690 --> 02:21:51,120
they were there. And we had a
great meetup in northwest

2408
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,870
Houston or barons or economic
hitman reported in it was the

2409
02:21:54,870 --> 02:21:57,570
first one and it was a big
success. They did not foster a

2410
02:21:57,570 --> 02:22:00,300
competitive atmosphere but they
laughed a lot everybody hugged

2411
02:22:00,300 --> 02:22:04,380
and shared secrets. Very good.
Then we have a big meetup coming

2412
02:22:04,380 --> 02:22:07,170
in the Netherlands yes these
things happen all over the world

2413
02:22:07,410 --> 02:22:10,980
it's a new place it's an it's a
new promo part of it in a

2414
02:22:10,980 --> 02:22:11,820
different language

2415
02:22:18,540 --> 02:22:24,090
so fair, cats whole nor the no
agenda meet up until they get in

2416
02:22:24,090 --> 02:22:28,530
a donor. Tell me if you need me.
I need our bicycle Ami.

2417
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:35,640
Coincidence? I think not. Cats
all on TV. In the morning,

2418
02:22:36,270 --> 02:22:40,170
that's they've now changed. Not
just the meetup but the actual

2419
02:22:40,170 --> 02:22:43,980
town is considering changing his
name from cutover the cat's Hall

2420
02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:47,910
and the mayor I wants to have a
chat with you John for

2421
02:22:47,970 --> 02:22:51,150
John C Dvorak: for time I'm
available on Fridays

2422
02:22:53,550 --> 02:22:59,040
Adam Curry: at sea here's what's
happening today. Okay, the DC

2423
02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:02,100
meetup dares unity as he already
said is probably over the happy

2424
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:07,290
for 20 Born day to me. However,
the sandy brigade Third Thursday

2425
02:23:07,290 --> 02:23:11,460
meet up in post Idaho Falls at
Selkirk Abbey kicks off at five

2426
02:23:11,460 --> 02:23:16,980
today. Six o'clock. The Virginia
Maryland West Virginia tri state

2427
02:23:16,980 --> 02:23:21,030
meet up at Union Jack pub and
restaurant Winchester, Virginia.

2428
02:23:21,330 --> 02:23:23,910
We have Charlotte's Thursday
Third Thursday seven o'clock at

2429
02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:27,840
Ed's tavern, Charlotte, North
Carolina. The tomorrow we have

2430
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:31,080
the spook in the alley that's in
Roanoke, Virginia man that the

2431
02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:35,790
spooks are out it's it's either
Indiana Jones or spook that's

2432
02:23:35,790 --> 02:23:39,450
that's his meeting these days in
big numbers. That'd be fork in

2433
02:23:39,450 --> 02:23:42,120
the alley Roanoke Virginia.
Saturday the first ever

2434
02:23:42,120 --> 02:23:48,420
Nantucket super, super machete
Saturday No Algo brotherhood of

2435
02:23:48,420 --> 02:23:51,600
thieves Nantucket Nantucket. I'm
very interested in how many

2436
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:54,810
listens we have in Nantucket.
Also on Saturday, the central

2437
02:23:54,810 --> 02:23:58,290
Ohio meet up at two o'clock at
Dempsey's pub in Columbus, Ohio,

2438
02:23:58,620 --> 02:24:03,060
and drinkin in the downers you
just heard that as the Dutch

2439
02:24:03,090 --> 02:24:07,590
meet up two o'clock on Saturday
in Katz hole. The Hungarian Hui

2440
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:11,910
hui at Budapest Bonanza three
o'clock Central European central

2441
02:24:11,910 --> 02:24:17,550
time in Budapest at tot Kosma
sir otter the in fungible

2442
02:24:17,550 --> 02:24:20,430
organizing that and then our
next show day Sunday to Three

2443
02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:25,920
Mile Island evac zone, April at
Tom Anna atomizer 330, Eastern

2444
02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:30,810
evergreen brewing and Camp Hill,
Pennsylvania. And finally KC

2445
02:24:30,810 --> 02:24:35,280
smokin hot spring barbecue 330
Central, and that's a private

2446
02:24:35,280 --> 02:24:40,260
home and that's in Kansas City.
I must mention the millennial

2447
02:24:40,260 --> 02:24:45,120
media offensive is having their
final Denver meetup on April 27.

2448
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:49,050
And they want me to mention that
because they will be moving down

2449
02:24:49,050 --> 02:24:52,830
south I think to the to the
Mississippi scene, the

2450
02:24:52,830 --> 02:24:55,800
Mississippi meet up scene so
they want me to mention that on

2451
02:24:55,800 --> 02:25:00,330
the 27th There'll be an official
last millennial media of So

2452
02:25:00,360 --> 02:25:02,700
meetup those are the guys who
wouldn't let you in Horowitz on

2453
02:25:02,700 --> 02:25:06,570
the stream. They were hogging
the stream. They were hogging

2454
02:25:06,570 --> 02:25:09,810
the stream. I don't know exactly
what happened. Horowitz sending

2455
02:25:09,810 --> 02:25:14,460
me messages. I can't kick these
guys off. Okay. I'm Mr. Stream

2456
02:25:14,460 --> 02:25:17,670
guy. Don't fix it. dustier? No.
Agenda meetups. This is

2457
02:25:17,700 --> 02:25:20,190
something you need in your life
you need to have this community

2458
02:25:20,190 --> 02:25:23,010
because connection is
protection. No agenda is your

2459
02:25:23,010 --> 02:25:25,560
community. You will love it.
It's completely producer

2460
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:28,980
organized. And if you can't find
one near you go ahead and start

2461
02:25:28,980 --> 02:25:40,830
one yourself no agenda
meetups.com. Dyson day you won't

2462
02:25:40,830 --> 02:25:53,850
be triggered all you say is
like, alright, I still got that.

2463
02:25:54,840 --> 02:26:00,150
This trans Maoists report. But
first we need to look at our

2464
02:26:00,150 --> 02:26:04,620
ISOs I have two today. And I
will play number one for you.

2465
02:26:04,740 --> 02:26:15,630
All the newspapers democracy is
dead. And this one wow. I

2466
02:26:15,630 --> 02:26:16,470
thought that one would

2467
02:26:16,470 --> 02:26:18,420
John C Dvorak: well that
competes with my Wow,

2468
02:26:18,480 --> 02:26:22,380
Adam Curry: wow. Oh, wow. was
nothing compared to my Wow, wow.

2469
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:25,500
Wow, I

2470
02:26:25,500 --> 02:26:27,270
John C Dvorak: will do my well.
Yeah. That was a good one.

2471
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:29,760
That's a good wow. Which a
lunatics

2472
02:26:29,790 --> 02:26:33,420
Adam Curry: with Yes, yes. Yes.
Yes. I've been reading so much.

2473
02:26:34,770 --> 02:26:36,990
Maybe that's what Megyn Kelly
will want to talk to me about

2474
02:26:36,990 --> 02:26:41,460
she's, she's all in on hating
what's going on? With the trans

2475
02:26:41,460 --> 02:26:43,380
Melinda what? The trans
movement?

2476
02:26:44,220 --> 02:26:46,830
John C Dvorak: She's all in on
the train on hating on hating

2477
02:26:46,830 --> 02:26:50,130
it. But yes, she hates on it.
Yeah. But she's Oh, yeah. I

2478
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:52,740
watched one of her things
recently. Yes, she goes. She's

2479
02:26:53,370 --> 02:26:57,150
she's much more adamant about
it. And we are that's for sure.

2480
02:26:57,810 --> 02:27:01,470
Adam Curry: Yes, well, of
course. And she, I would say her

2481
02:27:01,470 --> 02:27:06,300
main issue is that this is, you
know, this is anti women, anti

2482
02:27:06,300 --> 02:27:10,650
woman. Right. And that's and I
completely understand why she

2483
02:27:10,650 --> 02:27:12,000
takes that stance, the only

2484
02:27:12,540 --> 02:27:13,410
John C Dvorak: go counter.

2485
02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:17,460
Adam Curry: What do you mean by
I have an idea of what I'm going

2486
02:27:17,460 --> 02:27:19,080
to do. But what is your thought?
How am I going

2487
02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:21,420
John C Dvorak: to go counter see
is is the best thing that's ever

2488
02:27:21,420 --> 02:27:23,460
happened to this country? In
fact, I'm thinking of changing

2489
02:27:23,460 --> 02:27:24,570
my sex myself.

2490
02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:28,320
Adam Curry: That's a great idea,
John, but no. Oh, no, the part

2491
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:30,960
she doesn't she doesn't know
about any of the Maoists stuff.

2492
02:27:31,740 --> 02:27:35,160
She hasn't dropped that bomb on
her. I think Well, I think I'm

2493
02:27:35,160 --> 02:27:38,100
gonna start with the Budweiser
thing. Explain to her my history

2494
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:43,530
with Budweiser. Okay, like dang.
Sure, like that. So we've

2495
02:27:43,530 --> 02:27:46,980
learned a lot about what's going
on. And I mean, there are people

2496
02:27:47,010 --> 02:27:52,830
stopping me in the street
saying, Wow, 1445 Yeah, that

2497
02:27:52,830 --> 02:27:55,980
episode was so mind blowing
about how you took it from

2498
02:27:55,980 --> 02:27:59,400
what's happening with this
gender affirming care, which by

2499
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:04,950
itself is a psyop. If you watch
the documentary, affirmation

2500
02:28:04,950 --> 02:28:06,870
generation, do you ever get a
chance to see that?

2501
02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:09,120
John C Dvorak: I've watched it
twice.

2502
02:28:09,870 --> 02:28:11,820
Adam Curry: Really? I've not
watched it twice.

2503
02:28:11,850 --> 02:28:14,280
John C Dvorak: I've watched it.
I've watched it, but not twice.

2504
02:28:16,260 --> 02:28:19,860
Adam Curry: And I'm just this
whole pronouns thing bothers me

2505
02:28:19,860 --> 02:28:24,480
so much that we fell for that he
was it ties your brain up? Yeah.

2506
02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:29,340
Have you heard of the Stroop
test? Str Opie the Stroop test?

2507
02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:32,010
John C Dvorak: For some reason I
have, I can't tell you what it

2508
02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:33,570
is. But I have heard of it.
Yeah, it's a

2509
02:28:33,570 --> 02:28:36,750
Adam Curry: psychological test,
where there's a whole bunch of

2510
02:28:36,780 --> 02:28:40,470
colors written out. So say blue,
yellow, purple, red, pink,

2511
02:28:40,470 --> 02:28:44,580
except each color is not the
corresponding name. So the blue

2512
02:28:44,670 --> 02:28:47,580
will be in white, pink will be
in yellow, yellow will be in

2513
02:28:47,580 --> 02:28:51,840
green. And if you just try to
read it, it you can't read it

2514
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:54,990
very fast. Because your brain is
trying to pop process to

2515
02:28:55,230 --> 02:28:59,190
opposing realities. You're
reading the word blue, but

2516
02:28:59,190 --> 02:29:00,840
you're seeing white and

2517
02:29:00,900 --> 02:29:02,610
John C Dvorak: oh, that's not
that hard to read. I just turned

2518
02:29:02,610 --> 02:29:04,170
off my color vision.

2519
02:29:05,190 --> 02:29:08,580
Adam Curry: Okay, thanks. So
this is very similar to what a

2520
02:29:08,580 --> 02:29:12,480
pronoun is particular when it's
they or when it's obviously you

2521
02:29:12,480 --> 02:29:16,980
know, an incorrect pronoun. And
that is used to then you know,

2522
02:29:17,370 --> 02:29:21,000
psychologically manipulate the
people who are slow but everyone

2523
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:24,660
who was slowed down by this I
mean that it is in fact a very,

2524
02:29:24,690 --> 02:29:27,000
very slick manipulation.

2525
02:29:27,030 --> 02:29:28,800
John C Dvorak: Can I ask you a
question? Since you're gonna

2526
02:29:28,890 --> 02:29:33,420
you're gonna be grilled on this.
What difference does it make

2527
02:29:33,420 --> 02:29:36,390
what pronoun you use because you
never use it with the person?

2528
02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:42,840
Adam Curry: Precisely? It? It is
a way to disrupt the parent and

2529
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:49,560
child relationship. You're
stupid dad. It's them. And you

2530
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:53,490
don't know you like Oh, okay.
You know, you're under informed

2531
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:58,260
as most parents are. We're busy,
busy parents. But of course,

2532
02:29:58,260 --> 02:30:01,290
this is all the distraction
distract. Action is the men in

2533
02:30:01,290 --> 02:30:03,810
sports and distraction as the
men in the dressing room. It's

2534
02:30:03,810 --> 02:30:08,070
not that it's that I'm saying
I'm downplaying it. But the true

2535
02:30:08,070 --> 02:30:14,190
trans mouse movement is 80% of
girls who want to transition to

2536
02:30:14,190 --> 02:30:21,600
boys or to men. And the way this
is happening is it is truly

2537
02:30:21,600 --> 02:30:25,230
atrocious. It is happening all
over the United States, and

2538
02:30:25,230 --> 02:30:27,930
pretty much only now in the
United States. And we'll just

2539
02:30:27,930 --> 02:30:32,580
reiterate, the UK, Finland,
Denmark, the Netherlands, are

2540
02:30:32,580 --> 02:30:35,220
all shutting down these
practices of medical

2541
02:30:35,220 --> 02:30:39,120
transitioning. Here in America,
we just hype it up even more and

2542
02:30:39,120 --> 02:30:43,170
call it gender affirming care of
the President that the whole

2543
02:30:43,170 --> 02:30:47,850
administration uses this. But
when you hear by, for instance,

2544
02:30:47,850 --> 02:30:50,340
watching that documentary, and
I've gotten a lot of our

2545
02:30:50,340 --> 02:30:52,770
producers emailing me saying,
wow, you know, this is happening

2546
02:30:52,770 --> 02:30:54,960
to my daughter, what do I do?
And I say, Oh, I

2547
02:30:54,960 --> 02:30:55,710
John C Dvorak: said, Oh, yeah,

2548
02:30:55,920 --> 02:30:57,780
Adam Curry: you got some of
these to know,

2549
02:30:57,810 --> 02:30:59,490
John C Dvorak: but you do. I
mean, we've talked about this

2550
02:30:59,490 --> 02:31:03,120
already. You have been getting
some notes I haven't gotten at

2551
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:06,840
least none that I remember. I
think this bit of work, and this

2552
02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:12,000
may actually get us more
listeners from the Megyn Kelly

2553
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:12,720
audience.

2554
02:31:13,289 --> 02:31:15,749
Adam Curry: Well, I hope so
because it's important for

2555
02:31:15,749 --> 02:31:19,109
people to their amygdalas need
adjusting because that all

2556
02:31:19,559 --> 02:31:22,169
especially Meghan is, you know,
they're psyched out about you

2557
02:31:22,169 --> 02:31:25,829
know, these men acting like
women. And of course, yes,

2558
02:31:25,829 --> 02:31:28,079
absolutely. There's a percentage
of people who have body

2559
02:31:28,079 --> 02:31:31,919
dysphoria or dysmorphia each
pick which one you want? Of

2560
02:31:31,919 --> 02:31:36,809
course, less than, less than
point 1%. Yeah, but it's not 9%,

2561
02:31:36,809 --> 02:31:40,049
which is what it looks like now
for girls who want to transition

2562
02:31:40,049 --> 02:31:44,669
to boys. There's something
amiss. So there is this, I think

2563
02:31:44,669 --> 02:31:48,449
this is an English show. It's
called trigonometry. And they

2564
02:31:48,449 --> 02:31:53,009
had on the trans clinic
whistleblower, she worked at the

2565
02:31:53,009 --> 02:31:56,669
Washington University
transgender Center at St. Louis

2566
02:31:56,669 --> 02:32:01,139
Children's Hospital in Missouri.
And she actually wrote a blog

2567
02:32:01,139 --> 02:32:05,429
post back in February about some
of her experiences, and they had

2568
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:08,549
her on the show, I just pulled
three relatively short clips,

2569
02:32:08,639 --> 02:32:13,049
but it says it all as to what's
happening. And parents need to

2570
02:32:13,229 --> 02:32:16,949
take note of this. Here's her
background, just to start off on

2571
02:32:16,949 --> 02:32:20,579
by the way, she is very Butch
looking. I think she's married

2572
02:32:20,579 --> 02:32:24,449
to a trans man, she's an adult.
Now, this is not children, we're

2573
02:32:24,449 --> 02:32:28,019
talking. My issue is the
children that are being coerced

2574
02:32:28,019 --> 02:32:32,909
into this by the therapists, and
these types of clinics. And she

2575
02:32:33,089 --> 02:32:36,509
just hearing these three clips,
you if you're interested, you'll

2576
02:32:36,509 --> 02:32:37,919
want to hear her whole
interview.

2577
02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:42,030
Unknown: I'm Jamie Reid, I have
a Master's of Science in

2578
02:32:42,030 --> 02:32:46,560
Clinical Research, management.
And I was previously the

2579
02:32:46,590 --> 02:32:50,880
caseworker in the pediatric
transgender Center at a clinic

2580
02:32:50,880 --> 02:32:54,840
in St. Louis, Missouri. So in
the middle of the middle of

2581
02:32:54,840 --> 02:33:00,690
America, I started while I spent
about four years and four months

2582
02:33:00,690 --> 02:33:04,980
in that position, I worked at
the university previous to

2583
02:33:04,980 --> 02:33:08,880
working with trans kids, I was
working with young adults who

2584
02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:12,900
were HIV positive. I have a lot
of experience in case

2585
02:33:12,900 --> 02:33:18,180
management. I worked with kids
who are in foster care. And I've

2586
02:33:18,180 --> 02:33:23,070
also worked in a lot of medical
and health settings, too. So I

2587
02:33:23,070 --> 02:33:26,880
came into the clinic really
excited about the opportunity

2588
02:33:26,880 --> 02:33:30,240
that I thought was going to be
to help trans youth and their

2589
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:30,990
parents.

2590
02:33:31,650 --> 02:33:34,260
Adam Curry: Right. So she
thought, Okay, this is all good.

2591
02:33:34,590 --> 02:33:38,430
I'm gonna do some good for the
world. And pretty soon she saw

2592
02:33:38,430 --> 02:33:42,300
that this was not exactly all on
the up and up

2593
02:33:42,330 --> 02:33:48,540
Unknown: right away. I was
struck by the lack of

2594
02:33:48,960 --> 02:33:52,530
organization for the center. So
there was no real written

2595
02:33:52,530 --> 02:33:56,970
protocols, it seemed like it was
kind of a fly by the seat of the

2596
02:33:56,970 --> 02:34:00,210
pants kind of operation. They
had already been open for a

2597
02:34:00,210 --> 02:34:05,100
solid year before I got there.
And yet, it seems like they were

2598
02:34:05,100 --> 02:34:09,960
kind of operating outside of a
lot of the normal structures

2599
02:34:09,960 --> 02:34:13,950
that you'd see in medicine. Most
of the departments and divisions

2600
02:34:13,950 --> 02:34:17,520
in medicine have a lot of
layers. There's a lot of top

2601
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:21,720
heavy, there's a lot of you
know, administrative roles. And

2602
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:27,210
it seemed like the center was
kind of off on its own, had this

2603
02:34:27,210 --> 02:34:32,460
little pocket. And I was also
struck at the very beginning

2604
02:34:32,460 --> 02:34:36,120
because the administration of
this hospital left this clinic

2605
02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:39,510
open. And I was told that they
originally thought that they

2606
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:44,520
were going to have about 50
patients total. And when I left

2607
02:34:45,450 --> 02:34:47,520
we were close to 2000

2608
02:34:48,150 --> 02:34:52,950
Adam Curry: Okay, exactly what
are the chances all these girls

2609
02:34:52,950 --> 02:34:57,420
who need who are trans in St.
Louis know what is happening and

2610
02:34:57,420 --> 02:35:00,900
I and I we've talked about this
year As a goat and maybe not

2611
02:35:00,900 --> 02:35:04,800
even in this context, but social
media, particularly with young

2612
02:35:04,800 --> 02:35:10,470
girls, there is an absolute.
There's something known as

2613
02:35:10,470 --> 02:35:17,790
social contagion. And we talked
about this. In respect to tics,

2614
02:35:17,820 --> 02:35:20,940
you remember, girls would have
tics. And it's Oh, I have

2615
02:35:20,940 --> 02:35:23,520
Tourette's now that all have
tics. And it was all coming from

2616
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:27,060
social media. And some of them,
it was just it was very much we

2617
02:35:27,060 --> 02:35:29,130
even looked at some of the
history there's been would you

2618
02:35:29,130 --> 02:35:34,230
call it mass hysteria? There
have been moments in history

2619
02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:38,010
where social contagion was so
strong that entire towns could

2620
02:35:38,010 --> 02:35:40,590
not stop laughing for a week.
You remember that one?

2621
02:35:42,450 --> 02:35:44,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then
there was the June bug thing.

2622
02:35:44,730 --> 02:35:48,630
There's a slew of these. What
was the Junebug thing? Oh,

2623
02:35:48,630 --> 02:35:53,430
people? Imagine there were some
bugs on this. It's like, it's

2624
02:35:53,430 --> 02:35:57,420
like the Bedbug. Remember the
bedbug infestation everywhere.

2625
02:35:57,450 --> 02:35:59,430
Yes, yeah. And then all of a
sudden, it's not even in the

2626
02:35:59,430 --> 02:36:03,000
news anymore. If you have
bedbugs are still here. But June

2627
02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:06,180
bugs was similar to bed bugs
scary, you should look it up.

2628
02:36:06,180 --> 02:36:09,300
It's under Wikipedia. People
should look it up. And there's

2629
02:36:09,300 --> 02:36:12,990
no such thing as about June bug
but they were in frustating

2630
02:36:13,050 --> 02:36:16,740
infested infesting, sorry,
infesting everything, and people

2631
02:36:16,740 --> 02:36:19,860
will get finding them and they
were getting itchy. And there

2632
02:36:19,860 --> 02:36:22,170
was just It was a period of
nuttiness.

2633
02:36:22,590 --> 02:36:26,700
Adam Curry: So our clinician
here will tell us exactly how

2634
02:36:26,700 --> 02:36:30,810
this social contagion works. In
combination, of course, with

2635
02:36:30,810 --> 02:36:33,660
therapists who will happily
after one appointment, say, oh,

2636
02:36:33,660 --> 02:36:36,180
yeah, you're clearly trans.
Let's get you started on some

2637
02:36:36,180 --> 02:36:38,340
meds pretty soon, and we'll get
you scheduled for your top

2638
02:36:38,340 --> 02:36:42,570
surgery. This is happening to
girls 80% of all children who

2639
02:36:42,570 --> 02:36:49,500
are transitioning, who deserve
to have gender affirming medical

2640
02:36:49,500 --> 02:36:53,940
care, please be careful of
these, these these words, which

2641
02:36:53,940 --> 02:36:58,530
are just that just that it's
phony words, it's sterilization.

2642
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:05,430
It's an it's it's truly
mutilation. Listen to this,

2643
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,910
Unknown: I definitely have come
to believe that in the United

2644
02:37:08,910 --> 02:37:14,340
States, there is an element of
social contagion in play, going

2645
02:37:14,340 --> 02:37:19,290
on with young people who are
seeking out care in gender

2646
02:37:19,290 --> 02:37:24,240
centers. And I'm not the only
one to believe that I had lots

2647
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:29,190
of parents report very similar
things. And there were even a

2648
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:32,640
number of patients in the center
who would report and directly

2649
02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:39,120
said I, I only got this online.
I think it's well known in

2650
02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:46,860
medicine that adolescent girls
are just more more open and more

2651
02:37:46,860 --> 02:37:51,540
susceptible to many different
kinds of social contagions. That

2652
02:37:51,570 --> 02:37:56,070
has to do with a lot of ways
that girls are socialized, but

2653
02:37:56,070 --> 02:38:00,810
also the way that girls interact
in kind of group settings and

2654
02:38:00,810 --> 02:38:05,580
pick up things and show empathy
with those in their group

2655
02:38:05,580 --> 02:38:09,630
setting oftentimes by taking on
attributes in those group

2656
02:38:09,630 --> 02:38:14,070
settings. So I didn't just see
that these kids were picking up

2657
02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:19,410
gender as a social contagion. We
have a lot of issues right now

2658
02:38:19,410 --> 02:38:24,480
in my country with adolescents
who are experiencing tic

2659
02:38:24,480 --> 02:38:27,840
disorders, they think they have
Tourette's now there's been a

2660
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:31,800
recent wave of young people
believing that they have what

2661
02:38:31,800 --> 02:38:36,510
they refer to as di D so
multiple personalities. You are

2662
02:38:36,510 --> 02:38:40,740
seeing these things directly
coming from social media.

2663
02:38:41,130 --> 02:38:43,530
Adam Curry: There you go. That's
there's your culprit right

2664
02:38:43,530 --> 02:38:43,710
there. I

2665
02:38:43,710 --> 02:38:46,980
John C Dvorak: have a lot of I
get a lot of di D tock tick tock

2666
02:38:47,130 --> 02:38:50,400
videos. Oh, yeah. We've played
on the show the hot girls my

2667
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:51,780
favorite. The watch

2668
02:38:51,810 --> 02:38:56,280
Adam Curry: the hot girl. Yes.
Yes. And all social media is and

2669
02:38:56,280 --> 02:38:59,250
I'll bet you especially tick
tock, I'll bet you tick tock,

2670
02:38:59,250 --> 02:39:02,550
it's this is where tick tock
truly is going to be very bad.

2671
02:39:02,910 --> 02:39:06,240
Because we know their algorithm
pulls in everything, you know,

2672
02:39:06,240 --> 02:39:08,250
the stuff that you are
completely in love with an

2673
02:39:08,250 --> 02:39:12,330
interested and they don't put
any any counter weight into

2674
02:39:12,330 --> 02:39:17,640
that. No. And this is where it's
coming from. I'm not they just

2675
02:39:17,640 --> 02:39:21,690
said that. Let's get rid of
Tiktok for that reason. I think

2676
02:39:21,690 --> 02:39:27,210
people might be more into it.
Yeah. So this is this is a very

2677
02:39:27,240 --> 02:39:31,740
bad situation that we're in. And
I don't know how we get out of a

2678
02:39:31,740 --> 02:39:34,440
chart I mean, other than just
keep saying that this is being

2679
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:37,410
pulled back in all of Europe.
All the countries who are

2680
02:39:37,410 --> 02:39:38,130
leading with it are

2681
02:39:38,760 --> 02:39:42,600
John C Dvorak: good arguments.
There's always a started it in

2682
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:45,420
kind of Yeah, and they're the
ones pulling back.

2683
02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:48,060
Adam Curry: But meanwhile
Colorado, you know, signed is

2684
02:39:48,060 --> 02:39:50,880
the first state that oh, if
you're transgender and you want

2685
02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:53,700
you want treatment, we can do
transgender treatment tourism.

2686
02:39:53,700 --> 02:39:56,880
Come on over to Colorado. We're
all here for you for your gender

2687
02:39:56,880 --> 02:40:00,000
affirming care, and parents.
They don't know what to do, man.

2688
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:00,450
In this

2689
02:40:00,750 --> 02:40:05,880
John C Dvorak: world parents are
dumb. They're dumb. They, yes.

2690
02:40:06,269 --> 02:40:08,429
Adam Curry: That's not fair. I
mean, when you have all these

2691
02:40:08,429 --> 02:40:11,129
doctors telling you that this is
a thing and this is what your

2692
02:40:11,129 --> 02:40:14,399
kid has, I mean, you've been
taught to trust the doctor.

2693
02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:18,480
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that
was a mistake, wasn't it? Yes,

2694
02:40:18,480 --> 02:40:21,540
Adam Curry: but you can't call
them dumb. That's not fair. Yay.

2695
02:40:21,540 --> 02:40:22,020
Can

2696
02:40:23,580 --> 02:40:26,490
John C Dvorak: I can maybe you
can't know I can assure you here

2697
02:40:26,490 --> 02:40:30,690
play this DeSantis gender ban is
NPR is take on things.

2698
02:40:31,680 --> 02:40:33,840
Unknown: Load. His Board of
Education has signed off on a

2699
02:40:33,840 --> 02:40:37,860
ban on classroom instruction on
sexual orientation and gender

2700
02:40:37,860 --> 02:40:41,250
identity in all grades. The
board passed the proposal today

2701
02:40:41,250 --> 02:40:43,740
which says it will take effect
after a procedural notice period

2702
02:40:43,740 --> 02:40:46,740
that usually lasts about a
month. Republican Governor Ron

2703
02:40:46,740 --> 02:40:49,110
DeSantis put the measure forward
last month as part of the

2704
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:52,560
conservative agenda as it gears
up for an expected presidential

2705
02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:55,860
run, where it would ban lessons
on sexual orientation and gender

2706
02:40:55,860 --> 02:40:58,830
identity from grades four
through 12. Such lessons are

2707
02:40:58,830 --> 02:41:01,080
already banned in kindergarten
through third grade

2708
02:41:01,740 --> 02:41:04,860
John C Dvorak: man can't believe
we acted you'd have to ban and

2709
02:41:05,130 --> 02:41:07,470
garden to third grade happily on
I can't believe

2710
02:41:07,470 --> 02:41:10,650
Adam Curry: we have this
conversation even. And these

2711
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:15,360
these people who are doing this
are evil. And a lot of them have

2712
02:41:15,360 --> 02:41:16,980
been former

2713
02:41:16,980 --> 02:41:17,910
John C Dvorak: buying is calling

2714
02:41:17,939 --> 02:41:20,729
Adam Curry: John but you're
pushing it now the doctors the

2715
02:41:20,729 --> 02:41:22,979
doctors doing this not dumb,
they're evil.

2716
02:41:25,260 --> 02:41:28,950
John C Dvorak: Now the medical
system is is not performing

2717
02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:32,610
properly. And I blame if you
have to blame it on the top

2718
02:41:32,610 --> 02:41:37,260
guys. The guys who run the the
the AMA, for example. Well, the

2719
02:41:37,260 --> 02:41:39,690
licensing professionals, the
same guys who threatened to

2720
02:41:39,690 --> 02:41:43,560
license to do to the doctors in
Canada who said run and oh maybe

2721
02:41:43,560 --> 02:41:46,230
we shouldn't take this shot,
maybe try ivermectin.

2722
02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:50,490
Adam Curry: So I there was an
interview on CNBC with the

2723
02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:53,910
commissioner of the Food and
Drug Administration. The guy's

2724
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:59,880
name is Robert Calif. And he's
actually been the second time

2725
02:41:59,880 --> 02:42:02,580
he's administrator. I'll get to
that in a moment. And he was

2726
02:42:02,580 --> 02:42:04,680
interviewed. Now this you just
got to understand this guy is

2727
02:42:04,680 --> 02:42:10,290
probably about 65. He's wearing
a bow tie. A cat republic of

2728
02:42:10,290 --> 02:42:12,240
California bow tie.

2729
02:42:13,410 --> 02:42:14,280
John C Dvorak: Bad signal.

2730
02:42:14,640 --> 02:42:16,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, what
what does that even say about

2731
02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:22,980
someone who does that as an FTA
as the FDA? Commissioner, when

2732
02:42:22,980 --> 02:42:27,600
you were a republic of
California bow tie. What is up

2733
02:42:27,600 --> 02:42:32,700
with that? Since What are you
trying to say? I'm asking you a

2734
02:42:32,700 --> 02:42:35,550
question. Do you know what these
men who do this are trying to

2735
02:42:35,550 --> 02:42:36,660
communicate? Well,

2736
02:42:36,660 --> 02:42:39,300
John C Dvorak: babe in
publishing people. Somebody

2737
02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:44,400
described it to me once as tying
yourself in it with a bow tie.

2738
02:42:44,400 --> 02:42:48,870
If you're male in this, you
know, after 19 Unless you bow

2739
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:52,590
ties are kind of probably in his
70s on and off. After 99 You

2740
02:42:52,590 --> 02:42:55,200
wear a bow tie. you're tying
yourself as a gift as a

2741
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:57,090
Christmas gift as your little
bow.

2742
02:42:58,320 --> 02:43:00,510
Adam Curry: I'm perfect. I'm a
good boy. I'm perfect.

2743
02:43:01,620 --> 02:43:04,200
John C Dvorak: Boy, look. Well,
he's not there's something sick

2744
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:08,640
about it. Yes. Even Tucker, who
used to wear a bow tie all the

2745
02:43:08,640 --> 02:43:12,540
time? I haven't stopped doing
it. I've it's not it's not. It's

2746
02:43:12,540 --> 02:43:15,870
not a style anymore. No, it's a
statement.

2747
02:43:15,930 --> 02:43:17,820
Adam Curry: Does that mean I'm
also just following orders?

2748
02:43:17,820 --> 02:43:23,100
Maybe? I'm a good boy. I'm a
good boy. Good boy. Good boy.

2749
02:43:23,130 --> 02:43:29,040
Well, he is a good boy. Good
boy. Good job. But but he is

2750
02:43:29,070 --> 02:43:32,700
angry. Wow. I mean, angry. He
doesn't really get angry. But he

2751
02:43:32,700 --> 02:43:34,260
misses the good old days.

2752
02:43:34,290 --> 02:43:36,090
Unknown: Well, I know that
misinformation has been a big

2753
02:43:36,090 --> 02:43:39,840
priority here at FDA. What are
you guys doing about it? And do

2754
02:43:39,840 --> 02:43:42,450
you have optimism that you can
make a dent in it?

2755
02:43:44,070 --> 02:43:48,060
We've talked about this before.
And, you know, as I like to say,

2756
02:43:48,060 --> 02:43:50,460
when your FDA commissioner
people return your calls, I'll

2757
02:43:50,460 --> 02:43:53,730
call it all the experts we've
talked, we know more and more

2758
02:43:53,730 --> 02:43:56,250
about misinformation that
relates back to this life

2759
02:43:56,250 --> 02:44:00,480
expectancy. Why aren't we using
knowledge of dye and it's not

2760
02:44:00,480 --> 02:44:03,240
that people don't know about it?
Why are we using medical

2761
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:06,720
products as effectively and
efficiently as our peer

2762
02:44:07,260 --> 02:44:09,960
countries a lot of it has to do
with choices that people make

2763
02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:13,440
because of the things that
influence their thinking. The

2764
02:44:13,440 --> 02:44:17,340
COVID vaccines and the
antivirals give us an easy way

2765
02:44:17,340 --> 02:44:22,740
to talk about it but this is not
limited to those areas. In heart

2766
02:44:22,740 --> 02:44:25,650
disease so many people don't
take their medicines even though

2767
02:44:25,650 --> 02:44:30,600
they're now generic and very low
costs often diluted to taking

2768
02:44:30,600 --> 02:44:34,590
things that are sold over the
internet that aren't affected.

2769
02:44:35,280 --> 02:44:39,000
Effective. So how do we deal
with this? First of all you got

2770
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:44,100
to tell the truth and a lot of
volume. In the good old days

2771
02:44:44,130 --> 02:44:47,250
when I was a practicing
cardiologist for the most part,

2772
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:51,600
you know people developed
products a got through the FDA

2773
02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:55,110
the label determined what was
talked about. The internet

2774
02:44:55,110 --> 02:44:59,400
didn't exist you advertised and
medical meetings and journals

2775
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,720
There's sort of a hierarchy of
information that went through

2776
02:45:03,720 --> 02:45:07,590
the prescriber, or the implant
or in the case of devices to the

2777
02:45:07,590 --> 02:45:11,160
patient. Of course, the problem
with that system is left a lot

2778
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:14,910
of people out, we now know about
that. Now, everyone's included

2779
02:45:14,910 --> 02:45:18,420
because everyone's connected to
the internet. But we can put out

2780
02:45:18,420 --> 02:45:21,390
a statement about what we've
determined based on the highest

2781
02:45:21,390 --> 02:45:25,320
level of evidence. Within 10
minutes, someone who's thought

2782
02:45:25,320 --> 02:45:27,450
10 minutes about it can reach a
billion people.

2783
02:45:28,680 --> 02:45:31,560
Adam Curry: So he misses the
good old days when you can just

2784
02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:34,680
throw it on the news and put it
in the New York Times everyone

2785
02:45:34,680 --> 02:45:38,580
would believe Yeah, and be all
good. And now Oh, no, it sucks.

2786
02:45:38,580 --> 02:45:42,300
We get people who are talking
against us. And why why would he

2787
02:45:42,300 --> 02:45:47,190
know all about this? Because he
was hired during Obama's term,

2788
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:53,640
second term in office in 2017.
He left for a year. And where

2789
02:45:53,640 --> 02:45:54,390
did he go?

2790
02:45:54,449 --> 02:45:57,929
Unknown: How did your experience
working in the tech industry

2791
02:45:57,929 --> 02:46:02,909
working at alphabet impact how
you think about the role of the

2792
02:46:02,909 --> 02:46:07,829
tech industry in helping try to
stop some of this misinformation

2793
02:46:07,829 --> 02:46:08,909
or disinformation?

2794
02:46:09,150 --> 02:46:13,710
Well, you know, one thing about
it is found that in the tech

2795
02:46:13,710 --> 02:46:16,740
industry, just as I found in the
device, and pharma industries,

2796
02:46:16,740 --> 02:46:19,620
and in government, were mostly
all good people, we're all

2797
02:46:19,620 --> 02:46:23,700
trying to do the right thing.
But we work in environments

2798
02:46:23,700 --> 02:46:27,630
under a set of rules that
sometimes aren't optimal. And I

2799
02:46:27,630 --> 02:46:30,510
don't think anybody in the tech
industry had any idea it was

2800
02:46:30,510 --> 02:46:34,260
gonna get to the place it has.
Now we got large language

2801
02:46:34,260 --> 02:46:37,920
models, people think you call it
chat GPT, which really stands

2802
02:46:37,920 --> 02:46:43,710
for a whole set of technologies.
And so it's moving faster than

2803
02:46:43,710 --> 02:46:51,030
the human system is able to
adapt to it. And so, again, you

2804
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:54,300
think about the impact of a
single person reaching a billion

2805
02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:59,130
people on the internet all over
the world. We just weren't

2806
02:46:59,130 --> 02:47:01,440
prepared for that. We don't have
societal rules that are

2807
02:47:01,440 --> 02:47:04,590
adjudicating it. Fly, right. And
I think it's impacting our

2808
02:47:04,590 --> 02:47:07,110
health and very detrimental
ways.

2809
02:47:07,950 --> 02:47:10,680
Adam Curry: So he just casually
worked for about a year and a

2810
02:47:10,680 --> 02:47:16,050
half at Google and then came
back. Mr. bowtie

2811
02:47:16,920 --> 02:47:19,650
John C Dvorak: has a rather
peculiar interview. He didn't

2812
02:47:19,650 --> 02:47:20,940
say Jack.

2813
02:47:21,330 --> 02:47:26,910
Adam Curry: No, but it's clear
that and I think, I think part

2814
02:47:26,910 --> 02:47:32,820
of what these guys see, just AI
is the new thing to trust.

2815
02:47:33,360 --> 02:47:36,780
Because we don't worry. The
trust in doctors is waning.

2816
02:47:37,230 --> 02:47:40,170
Anybody on the internet, but you
know what people do trust now or

2817
02:47:40,170 --> 02:47:44,910
chat? GPT Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ai
Oh, AI said so. I think they're

2818
02:47:44,910 --> 02:47:49,350
counting on that. I really think
that they might be counting on

2819
02:47:49,350 --> 02:47:49,650
that.

2820
02:47:51,420 --> 02:47:53,040
John C Dvorak: Well, they're
idiots.

2821
02:47:54,960 --> 02:47:58,800
Adam Curry: Okay, well, there
you go. What can I do?

2822
02:47:58,830 --> 02:48:02,790
John C Dvorak: Hey, this play
this news. Breaking news. Okay,

2823
02:48:03,060 --> 02:48:06,180
short break. This is interesting
Netflix DVD story. Have you

2824
02:48:06,180 --> 02:48:06,810
heard this?

2825
02:48:07,620 --> 02:48:10,890
Unknown: Maybe not first
blockbuster. Now Netflix. Well,

2826
02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:11,880
not all of it.

2827
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:15,540
After 25 years, the company is
ending its DVD by delivery

2828
02:48:15,540 --> 02:48:18,900
service. Yes, it does still
exist. And yes, people still do

2829
02:48:18,930 --> 02:48:19,410
use it.

2830
02:48:19,470 --> 02:48:23,130
My kids love to make fun of me
because I like so many black and

2831
02:48:23,130 --> 02:48:28,350
white films. And so just the
access to classic films and

2832
02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:32,790
obscure films, foreign films,
that sort of thing. was great.

2833
02:48:32,820 --> 02:48:33,330
That's done

2834
02:48:33,330 --> 02:48:36,060
Wallace in Nashville, Tennessee.
He has the regular Netflix

2835
02:48:36,060 --> 02:48:39,240
streaming service. But he and
his family have used the DVD

2836
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:41,760
delivery system for about a day
you stop the clips.

2837
02:48:44,190 --> 02:48:46,770
John C Dvorak: I didn't know
they were still delivering DVDs

2838
02:48:46,770 --> 02:48:48,870
by mail. Did you know this? I
thought

2839
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:51,270
Adam Curry: they gave that up
and they're already talking

2840
02:48:51,270 --> 02:48:54,540
about password sharing issues.

2841
02:48:56,190 --> 02:48:58,950
John C Dvorak: I just found that
to be the most peculiar story.

2842
02:49:00,420 --> 02:49:03,600
Adam Curry: Yeah, it doesn't
surprise me. Why Not? Not? You

2843
02:49:03,600 --> 02:49:08,160
know, not everybody is on the on
the web these days?

2844
02:49:08,340 --> 02:49:10,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But I still
thought you know, they could be

2845
02:49:10,950 --> 02:49:18,630
making any money doing that. So
I have another offbeat clip. Of

2846
02:49:18,630 --> 02:49:21,690
here's an abortion factoid. Did
you know this? Well,

2847
02:49:21,720 --> 02:49:23,460
Adam Curry: I don't know what
the factoid is. So how can I

2848
02:49:23,460 --> 02:49:24,330
know what it is?

2849
02:49:24,720 --> 02:49:28,200
John C Dvorak: I'm asking you.
It's like an ask. And I'm going

2850
02:49:28,200 --> 02:49:31,380
to have you played the clip of
abortion factoid. And then I'm

2851
02:49:31,380 --> 02:49:33,060
saying Did you know this at

2852
02:49:33,060 --> 02:49:36,330
Unknown: issue a lower court
ruling that rolled back the Food

2853
02:49:36,330 --> 02:49:39,510
and Drug Administration's 23
year old approval of method

2854
02:49:39,510 --> 02:49:42,510
prestone about half of all
abortions in the United States

2855
02:49:42,510 --> 02:49:44,130
are medication abortions.

2856
02:49:44,400 --> 02:49:46,470
John C Dvorak: I did know that.
I mean, I've been following that

2857
02:49:46,470 --> 02:49:50,250
half of the abortions are
medication abortion. Yes. Yes. I

2858
02:49:50,250 --> 02:49:52,800
mean, I didn't know that. I've
been following a coat hanger or

2859
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:53,640
something. Oh,

2860
02:49:53,700 --> 02:49:56,940
Adam Curry: you know, you are
you're really not this is you

2861
02:49:56,940 --> 02:49:58,260
should calm down.

2862
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,910
John C Dvorak: Just the fact
that didn't know. And you know,

2863
02:50:03,360 --> 02:50:04,380
here's a good one. What

2864
02:50:04,380 --> 02:50:08,910
Adam Curry: can you stop for a
second? Yeah. So what is

2865
02:50:08,910 --> 02:50:12,960
interesting about this is that
now, what everyone is waiting to

2866
02:50:12,960 --> 02:50:16,560
see is if this will go to the
Supreme Court if the Supreme

2867
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:20,340
Court will take up this case,
which I honestly, I don't see

2868
02:50:20,340 --> 02:50:23,940
why the Supreme Court has any
business doing this at all. I

2869
02:50:23,940 --> 02:50:25,050
mean, but they

2870
02:50:25,050 --> 02:50:27,870
John C Dvorak: already took it
up and they kicked it back. But

2871
02:50:27,870 --> 02:50:30,210
they didn't kick it back. They
did put it on postponements

2872
02:50:30,210 --> 02:50:32,550
gonna be there Friday or the
next Yeah,

2873
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:35,310
Adam Curry: it's a Friday, so
they haven't to dictate it up.

2874
02:50:35,340 --> 02:50:39,060
Yeah. Well, no, they postponed
it until Friday, and then that's

2875
02:50:39,060 --> 02:50:41,910
tomorrow, and then they will
we'll hear if they pick it up or

2876
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:46,710
not. But if they if they if they
pick it up, I mean, what are

2877
02:50:46,710 --> 02:50:49,860
they let's say they don't pick
it up. I mean, can you have any

2878
02:50:49,860 --> 02:50:53,580
drug? Any drug available to kill
anybody? I mean, I think there's

2879
02:50:53,580 --> 02:50:54,840
a lot. There's a lot here.

2880
02:50:55,260 --> 02:50:57,630
John C Dvorak: I don't think
taking I don't think there's the

2881
02:50:58,020 --> 02:50:59,790
I don't think they want to pick
it out.

2882
02:50:59,820 --> 02:51:01,110
Adam Curry: I don't think
they'll touch it either.

2883
02:51:01,530 --> 02:51:05,370
John C Dvorak: I don't think
they should touch it. No, no,

2884
02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:09,690
but I have an NPR report. If
people need to know that. Called

2885
02:51:09,690 --> 02:51:11,970
Supreme Court in the abortion
pill NPR.

2886
02:51:12,420 --> 02:51:15,510
Unknown: The Supreme Court has
temporarily extended access to a

2887
02:51:15,510 --> 02:51:19,710
commonly used abortion pill
until Friday. justices are still

2888
02:51:19,710 --> 02:51:22,440
considering whether to allow
restrictions on Mefa prestone to

2889
02:51:22,440 --> 02:51:25,980
take effect while a legal
challenge to the medications FDA

2890
02:51:25,980 --> 02:51:29,640
approval continues. In order
signed by Justice Samuel Alito,

2891
02:51:29,640 --> 02:51:32,880
the court indicated will back by
Friday night. The decision comes

2892
02:51:32,880 --> 02:51:36,840
following a ruling by a judge in
Texas seeking to invalidate FDA

2893
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:40,140
approval of the drug despite its
20 plus year record of safe use.

2894
02:51:40,380 --> 02:51:42,720
Since the Supreme Court
overturned the constitutional

2895
02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:45,690
right to an abortion last summer
political and legal battles are

2896
02:51:45,690 --> 02:51:47,970
focused on medications used for
abortions.

2897
02:51:49,050 --> 02:51:52,410
Adam Curry: Ah, whatever
happened to you know, wear a

2898
02:51:52,410 --> 02:51:57,030
condom I mean, that's what it
used to be. I mean, it was like

2899
02:51:57,060 --> 02:52:01,140
abortion was if it if the condom
broke somehow we've just

2900
02:52:01,320 --> 02:52:04,470
forgotten them. That's what I
grew up with. And then for a

2901
02:52:04,470 --> 02:52:07,590
long time, I was like, age does
not have sex at all.

2902
02:52:08,490 --> 02:52:11,820
John C Dvorak: Well, in Maoist
and communist societies abortion

2903
02:52:11,820 --> 02:52:15,660
was the is the number one birth
control methodology. There

2904
02:52:15,660 --> 02:52:19,590
Adam Curry: you go. There you
go. Um, that's exactly it. That

2905
02:52:19,980 --> 02:52:22,530
if it's time for you to have a
child, we'll create that in the

2906
02:52:22,530 --> 02:52:25,590
lab and all the others we can
just just have fun having sex.

2907
02:52:25,590 --> 02:52:27,630
Don't Don't worry about
anything. You're right. That is

2908
02:52:27,630 --> 02:52:31,470
entirely the mouse system. And
we're running towards it at

2909
02:52:31,470 --> 02:52:37,800
breakneck speed. Yeah. I'm going
to play you a short. Fifi

2910
02:52:37,800 --> 02:52:41,700
Lagarde clip, Christine Lagarde
since the last time we played

2911
02:52:41,700 --> 02:52:44,790
it. Two weeks later, everybody
had discovered this thing that

2912
02:52:44,790 --> 02:52:49,290
she said, remember that? I don't
yet. Yes, you do. But I was the

2913
02:52:49,290 --> 02:52:52,620
two Russians who punked her? And
then she said, Oh yeah. Oh,

2914
02:52:52,620 --> 02:52:55,950
yeah. October digital euros
coming October. We played all

2915
02:52:55,950 --> 02:52:59,190
this. We deconstructed the whole
interview. And then two weeks

2916
02:52:59,190 --> 02:53:01,530
later, people are sending me all
this is a great clip.

2917
02:53:02,910 --> 02:53:05,130
John C Dvorak: This is old clip.
Yeah. So this

2918
02:53:05,130 --> 02:53:07,890
Adam Curry: is a new clip of her
speaking at the Council on

2919
02:53:07,890 --> 02:53:10,410
Foreign Relations. Actually,
this is after her speech.

2920
02:53:13,350 --> 02:53:14,460
John C Dvorak: Oh man, where she

2921
02:53:14,460 --> 02:53:16,650
Adam Curry: first calls for a
actually I should play this.

2922
02:53:17,280 --> 02:53:21,390
Europe be prepared. This is what
your president of your central

2923
02:53:21,390 --> 02:53:22,260
bank wants.

2924
02:53:22,290 --> 02:53:25,440
Unknown: The single most
important factor influencing

2925
02:53:25,440 --> 02:53:29,760
international currency usage
remains the strength of

2926
02:53:29,760 --> 02:53:34,620
fundamentals. And by that, we
know that it is the rule of law,

2927
02:53:34,950 --> 02:53:41,250
strong, respected institution,
as well as open capital markets.

2928
02:53:42,240 --> 02:53:46,170
By the same token for Europe,
long delayed projects, such as

2929
02:53:46,170 --> 02:53:49,830
deepening and integrating our
capital markets can no longer be

2930
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:54,720
viewed solely through the lens
of domestic financial policy. To

2931
02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:58,740
put it bluntly, we need to
complete the European Capital

2932
02:53:58,740 --> 02:54:03,000
Markets Union. This will be
pivotal in determining whether

2933
02:54:03,000 --> 02:54:06,660
the Euro remains among the
leading global currencies or

2934
02:54:06,660 --> 02:54:10,830
others, those exotic one that I
mentioned earlier on, take its

2935
02:54:10,830 --> 02:54:11,430
place.

2936
02:54:11,730 --> 02:54:13,920
Adam Curry: So there you go the
capital union that what they

2937
02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:16,950
said would never happen, you're
gonna have one bank and you're

2938
02:54:16,950 --> 02:54:20,820
gonna have a European taxes.
This is exactly what they said

2939
02:54:20,820 --> 02:54:24,030
they would never do along with
they will never be an EU army.

2940
02:54:24,210 --> 02:54:27,630
And of course, now there is. And
then the second part is where

2941
02:54:27,630 --> 02:54:33,420
she uses crypto to usher in that
which she predicted would happen

2942
02:54:33,420 --> 02:54:34,650
in October anyway.

2943
02:54:34,860 --> 02:54:38,550
Unknown: I'm not impressed by
Kryptos. As I said, I see them

2944
02:54:38,550 --> 02:54:43,230
as liabilities more than assets.
I respect that people want to

2945
02:54:43,290 --> 02:54:47,100
produce speculative instruments.
If they're prepared to lose it

2946
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:51,330
all. That's fine. I'm very
concerned that it's seducing

2947
02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:54,150
young people who don't really
understand what they're getting

2948
02:54:54,150 --> 02:55:00,000
into. And one of the reasons I
have pushed our project of the

2949
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:05,070
Digital Euro has to do with the
fact that our societies are

2950
02:55:05,070 --> 02:55:09,930
becoming more and more digital.
And we cannot just operate with

2951
02:55:10,110 --> 02:55:16,200
central bank money that is
comprised of banknotes coins,

2952
02:55:16,500 --> 02:55:20,040
for the central bank money, the
rest is commercial bank money.

2953
02:55:20,550 --> 02:55:25,380
And I'm convinced that we must
be able to produce a digital

2954
02:55:25,380 --> 02:55:30,090
central bank currency. And I'm
using all the words currency,

2955
02:55:30,210 --> 02:55:34,020
Central Bank, digital, that's
that's what we should be able to

2956
02:55:34,050 --> 02:55:37,470
produce as well as having a
payment infrastructure that is

2957
02:55:37,470 --> 02:55:44,310
conducive to fast, cheaper, more
efficient payments cross border,

2958
02:55:44,519 --> 02:55:47,519
Adam Curry: I don't think she
could be more clear. Central

2959
02:55:47,519 --> 02:55:50,879
Bank digital currency for
Europe, coming in October.

2960
02:55:51,420 --> 02:55:54,180
John C Dvorak: She also had I
think, in the same speech, she

2961
02:55:54,180 --> 02:55:58,470
said something about if you use
a thousand.do a transaction in

2962
02:55:58,470 --> 02:56:03,090
cash over $1,000, you'd be it's
like it's going to be illegal.

2963
02:56:03,420 --> 02:56:05,700
Adam Curry: Well, that was in
her in the previous video we had

2964
02:56:05,730 --> 02:56:08,220
when she said that. Oh, yeah.
No, it was no, they would take

2965
02:56:08,220 --> 02:56:14,730
it down to 300. Not 1000. Down
to 302. To 300. Oh, yeah. Europe

2966
02:56:14,730 --> 02:56:20,340
has no idea what these idiots
are up to. And this was no

2967
02:56:20,340 --> 02:56:23,850
they'd known they should Well,
the Yes. The ones who listened

2968
02:56:23,850 --> 02:56:35,910
to our show. That's for sure.
Let's see. Hmm. Mayor air Eric

2969
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:39,930
Adams. This guy has been a
disappointment, huh?

2970
02:56:41,280 --> 02:56:44,430
John C Dvorak: No, not at all.
Not in the least. We've got

2971
02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:48,540
we've got one guy one of our
producers that can do his voice

2972
02:56:48,570 --> 02:56:50,400
Adam Curry: You mean for the
show? No. for the show. He's

2973
02:56:50,580 --> 02:56:51,600
He's a gym.

2974
02:56:52,200 --> 02:56:54,840
John C Dvorak: I'm thinking for
you. Me for an actual mayor for

2975
02:56:54,840 --> 02:56:58,050
the citizens of New York is
horrible and is worse than it

2976
02:56:58,050 --> 02:57:01,770
was to Robo dogs to take over
the place not only seen that

2977
02:57:01,770 --> 02:57:05,730
other that other robot that big.
Looks like a giant dildo that's

2978
02:57:05,730 --> 02:57:09,660
going to be wandering around. As
promised Holy mackerel that

2979
02:57:09,660 --> 02:57:13,590
doesn't have facial recognition.
They say no. And what's the

2980
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:14,880
point? He's going after

2981
02:57:14,880 --> 02:57:15,930
Adam Curry: your beef, New York,

2982
02:57:15,960 --> 02:57:18,990
Unknown: one in every five
metric tons of carbon dioxide

2983
02:57:19,020 --> 02:57:25,020
our city emits comes from food.
But all food is not created

2984
02:57:25,020 --> 02:57:30,660
equal. The vast majority
majority of food that is

2985
02:57:30,660 --> 02:57:37,020
contributed to the mission
crisis lies in meat and dairy

2986
02:57:37,020 --> 02:57:39,900
products. There you go. We
already know that a plant plant

2987
02:57:39,900 --> 02:57:47,940
power died is better for your
physical and mental health. Yet,

2988
02:57:48,270 --> 02:57:49,740
Adam Curry: well, you got to
wait. You got to listen to what

2989
02:57:49,740 --> 02:57:50,340
he says

2990
02:57:50,370 --> 02:57:54,270
Unknown: better for your
physical and mental health. And

2991
02:57:54,300 --> 02:57:55,890
I am living proof of that.

2992
02:57:59,250 --> 02:58:02,310
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, I can
barely get out a sense. That's

2993
02:58:02,310 --> 02:58:05,310
kind of like an idiot. That's
what I like to say no worries.

2994
02:58:06,450 --> 02:58:10,890
Adam Curry: I am I am. I'm
proved and Brian. He's melting

2995
02:58:10,890 --> 02:58:15,600
down. And then this just taken
on climate for a second this get

2996
02:58:15,600 --> 02:58:17,790
climate Good. I'll play this
one, then we'll hear your

2997
02:58:17,790 --> 02:58:24,450
climate. This is I think this
representative LaMalfa and

2998
02:58:24,450 --> 02:58:30,240
questions the house transport
committee was actually a simple

2999
02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:33,450
I mean, they're the house
transport committee is all about

3000
02:58:33,870 --> 02:58:37,260
climate change with those guys
of electric vehicles, everything

3001
02:58:37,260 --> 02:58:40,440
Oh, we have to be able to
transportation. And he has a

3002
02:58:40,440 --> 02:58:42,180
very simple climate question.

3003
02:58:42,240 --> 02:58:45,330
Unknown: Panelists. Let me just
go right down the line real fast

3004
02:58:45,780 --> 02:58:49,500
over atmospheric co2. Take your
best guess you don't have to be

3005
02:58:49,500 --> 02:58:54,330
accurate. All downlines repeat
that question. What percent of

3006
02:58:54,330 --> 02:58:57,690
our atmosphere is co2 carbon
dioxide? Well, yes, it's

3007
02:58:57,690 --> 02:59:00,360
okay. Abide 5% Fine.

3008
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:06,450
Adam Curry: Just follow your
favorite number.

3009
02:59:06,570 --> 02:59:10,170
Unknown: I'll see you there five
and suggest that we know that

3010
02:59:10,170 --> 02:59:14,880
transportation causes 49% of co2
So that's why we're all working

3011
02:59:14,880 --> 02:59:16,800
on. Energy Transition.

3012
02:59:16,800 --> 02:59:18,840
Right. So what number you think
it is?

3013
02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:21,360
Five, five,

3014
02:59:21,600 --> 02:59:26,100
but you didn't hear you
straighter? Seven, seven. Do you

3015
02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:26,520
have one?

3016
02:59:27,810 --> 02:59:29,460
Adam Curry: So we got to five
seven

3017
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:36,870
Unknown: prices right? Eight.
All right. Well, I appreciate

3018
02:59:36,870 --> 02:59:39,720
that. And I don't mean I put you
on ISS a lot of people that

3019
02:59:39,720 --> 02:59:43,410
because over here is climate
change climate change co2, co2.

3020
02:59:43,410 --> 02:59:46,080
I heard a couple on the panel
saying you're looking to change

3021
02:59:46,080 --> 02:59:48,000
your vehicles to electric even
though we don't have the

3022
02:59:48,000 --> 02:59:51,150
electric grid. And me as a
farmer I wouldn't be real happy

3023
02:59:51,150 --> 02:59:55,230
but running out and replacing
$300,000 or $500,000 million

3024
02:59:55,230 --> 02:59:57,570
dollar pieces of equipment
because I want someone wants to

3025
02:59:57,570 --> 03:00:04,440
be electric. The answer is point
zero. euro 4% not 1% 9% It's

3026
03:00:04,440 --> 03:00:07,890
point zero 4% And it's gone up
from point 03 Over the last

3027
03:00:07,890 --> 03:00:11,220
couple decades. This is what
we're I mean, all contorted into

3028
03:00:11,220 --> 03:00:15,570
doing is this tiny change in
co2. If we go if we get below

3029
03:00:15,600 --> 03:00:18,480
point 02 plant life starts dying
off.

3030
03:00:19,260 --> 03:00:20,580
I love that fart.

3031
03:00:21,090 --> 03:00:24,900
John C Dvorak: Is that true?
Yeah. Yeah, you get plants

3032
03:00:24,900 --> 03:00:29,640
needed. At least point to what's
funny is they've done these.

3033
03:00:30,660 --> 03:00:33,150
What's funny is that those
idiots that are up there

3034
03:00:33,150 --> 03:00:36,480
testifying don't have a clue.
Yes, where they can answer that

3035
03:00:36,480 --> 03:00:40,170
simple question. I mean, if you
think about what's his name and

3036
03:00:40,170 --> 03:00:47,220
his project 350 350 parts per
million is is the 3.03 Yes, but

3037
03:00:49,770 --> 03:00:52,200
they haven't I get a biggest
kick out of listening to

3038
03:00:52,200 --> 03:00:55,050
something on NPR where they had
this this plant guy is doing a

3039
03:00:55,050 --> 03:00:57,750
greenhouse thing. Because yeah,
I got these plants to grow three

3040
03:00:57,750 --> 03:01:02,460
times bigger. I just pump in
bunches of co2 of course into

3041
03:01:02,460 --> 03:01:05,190
the course into the greenhouse
and these things grow like

3042
03:01:05,190 --> 03:01:05,940
crazy.

3043
03:01:06,240 --> 03:01:09,510
Adam Curry: We need we need we
need a lot more co2 ever. We

3044
03:01:09,510 --> 03:01:12,990
would grow bigger plants we grow
bigger. We would be healthier.

3045
03:01:13,710 --> 03:01:20,970
This we are slowly being killed
by this nonsense. Da Nan well,

3046
03:01:20,970 --> 03:01:23,190
John C Dvorak: they're gonna get
killed in Texas. Here we go.

3047
03:01:24,600 --> 03:01:29,880
Okay, I love the Texas clips.
This is climate Texas versus the

3048
03:01:29,880 --> 03:01:30,720
glacier.

3049
03:01:30,960 --> 03:01:34,230
Unknown: Rebecca Hirscher from
NPRs climate desk traveled to

3050
03:01:34,230 --> 03:01:37,230
Galveston, Texas to explain that
connection.

3051
03:01:37,260 --> 03:01:40,740
Adam Curry: Wow. She's from the
climate desk. She left her

3052
03:01:40,740 --> 03:01:43,890
climate desk to travel to
Galveston, Texas.

3053
03:01:44,160 --> 03:01:47,070
Unknown: We're far from
Antarctica on an island in the

3054
03:01:47,070 --> 03:01:51,090
Gulf of Mexico. This is
Galveston, Texas, gateway to one

3055
03:01:51,090 --> 03:01:53,760
of the busiest ports in the
country, home to a cruise

3056
03:01:53,760 --> 03:01:58,290
terminal, a university 50,000
residents and miles of sandy

3057
03:01:58,290 --> 03:02:02,610
beaches. Like a lot of people
here Jerry Davi loud comes down

3058
03:02:02,610 --> 03:02:04,230
to the water to relax.

3059
03:02:04,290 --> 03:02:08,310
I'd love just staring at the
water did so it's a great stress

3060
03:02:08,310 --> 03:02:09,510
reliever just to look at it.

3061
03:02:09,810 --> 03:02:13,080
But families who have lived in
Galveston for a long time also

3062
03:02:13,080 --> 03:02:16,410
know that the water can be
dangerous. It's the number one

3063
03:02:16,410 --> 03:02:18,030
threat to the city's existence.

3064
03:02:18,240 --> 03:02:23,520
So I'm Jim Collins Pulliam and
we are here in Galveston at our

3065
03:02:23,520 --> 03:02:27,150
family home that's been here for
about 120 years,

3066
03:02:27,180 --> 03:02:31,080
120 years because the house that
used to be on this exact spot

3067
03:02:31,080 --> 03:02:35,400
was destroyed, swept away by the
ocean during a storm in the year

3068
03:02:35,400 --> 03:02:36,450
1900.

3069
03:02:38,610 --> 03:02:39,330
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute.

3070
03:02:42,090 --> 03:02:42,960
Adam Curry: Yes.

3071
03:02:44,430 --> 03:02:48,600
John C Dvorak: We're in 1900.
And there was no climate change

3072
03:02:48,630 --> 03:02:53,400
issues. No. It wiped out this
woman's house and the baguettes

3073
03:02:53,400 --> 03:02:56,700
yo there was a great flood of
Galveston flood in 1900. It was

3074
03:02:56,700 --> 03:03:00,000
a horrible, the worst
catastrophe in the history of

3075
03:03:00,000 --> 03:03:03,750
the United States. That was
seems some time ago.

3076
03:03:03,780 --> 03:03:06,180
Adam Curry: Yes. I would say it
was a 200 and

3077
03:03:07,440 --> 03:03:09,630
John C Dvorak: it's bad. It
should have been getting worse

3078
03:03:09,630 --> 03:03:12,810
and worse and worse. The whole
Galveston Island should be gone

3079
03:03:12,810 --> 03:03:15,390
Adam Curry: should be just toast
gone. That's right. It's not

3080
03:03:17,400 --> 03:03:20,100
John C Dvorak: not for the want
of coping. Let's go with part

3081
03:03:20,100 --> 03:03:20,430
two

3082
03:03:20,460 --> 03:03:24,600
Unknown: is the sound of the ice
cracking apart. One of the most

3083
03:03:24,600 --> 03:03:26,940
elemental sounds of climate
change

3084
03:03:27,210 --> 03:03:30,150
Adam Curry: this what we've
never heard

3085
03:03:31,590 --> 03:03:35,160
John C Dvorak: is a long report.
She plays this shouldn't play

3086
03:03:35,160 --> 03:03:39,510
anything but it's the sound of
ice when he when the ice in a

3087
03:03:39,540 --> 03:03:42,330
giant glacier cracks. Yeah, it
makes a noise

3088
03:03:42,360 --> 03:03:44,820
Adam Curry: but she but she
called that the the iconic

3089
03:03:44,820 --> 03:03:45,330
satellite.

3090
03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:47,670
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah.
Conexant I don't know what it

3091
03:03:47,670 --> 03:03:50,850
sounds like. You don't know what
it sounds like. I don't know how

3092
03:03:50,850 --> 03:03:53,550
its iconic, but it is cracking

3093
03:03:53,580 --> 03:03:56,580
Unknown: apart. One of the most
elemental mountains

3094
03:03:56,580 --> 03:03:59,790
Adam Curry: of climate change
elemental sounds. This melting

3095
03:03:59,790 --> 03:04:02,880
Unknown: glacier in West
Antarctica is threatening people

3096
03:04:02,970 --> 03:04:07,530
who live 1000s of miles away. In
sunny Texas.

3097
03:04:07,830 --> 03:04:10,440
We actually have first hand
accounts of what happened from

3098
03:04:10,470 --> 03:04:14,370
oral histories. This is
palladiums Great aren't any

3099
03:04:14,370 --> 03:04:17,550
smize or McCullough who was in
her early 20s When the storm

3100
03:04:17,550 --> 03:04:18,000
hit?

3101
03:04:18,270 --> 03:04:26,160
Oh, it was off. thing you want
me to tell you but it no tongue

3102
03:04:26,160 --> 03:04:28,050
can tell it. This recording

3103
03:04:28,080 --> 03:04:31,470
originally aired in an NPR radio
documentary The sound of wind

3104
03:04:31,470 --> 03:04:33,690
and water was added by producers
that

3105
03:04:35,910 --> 03:04:44,640
waves come in so I don't get you
on here. And

3106
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:47,250
Adam Curry: I can't believe that
she disclosed they added the

3107
03:04:47,250 --> 03:04:50,340
sound effects. Why would you do
why would you bust yourself like

3108
03:04:50,340 --> 03:04:50,730
that?

3109
03:04:51,119 --> 03:04:53,699
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
a crazy thing is the old lady

3110
03:04:53,699 --> 03:04:55,169
says I don't think you want to
hear and then they're all

3111
03:04:55,169 --> 03:04:57,629
yelling. Yeah, let's

3112
03:04:57,630 --> 03:04:59,430
Adam Curry: hear all right third
clip.

3113
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:01,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, go for it.
And why

3114
03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:07,230
Unknown: don't let's come in so
fast. The wagon getting in so

3115
03:05:07,230 --> 03:05:07,650
ages.

3116
03:05:08,640 --> 03:05:12,060
McCullough barely survived the
family's home and most of the

3117
03:05:12,060 --> 03:05:16,470
city were destroyed. At least
6000 people died. It's still the

3118
03:05:16,470 --> 03:05:20,670
most deadly weather disaster in
recorded US history. But the

3119
03:05:20,670 --> 03:05:25,380
city survived, thanks in large
part to a massive concrete wall

3120
03:05:25,410 --> 03:05:29,400
that was built after the storm,
a wall so tall that engineers

3121
03:05:29,400 --> 03:05:33,960
said it would protect the city
from the ocean forever. The wall

3122
03:05:34,020 --> 03:05:37,200
is still here today, I drove out
to look at it with Kelly Burks

3123
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:40,590
Kobes from the Army Corps of
Engineers. So this is 17 feet

3124
03:05:40,590 --> 03:05:44,850
high, 17 feet high and 10 miles
long. It runs basically the

3125
03:05:44,850 --> 03:05:48,540
length of the city. It's covered
in murals. There's a four lane

3126
03:05:48,540 --> 03:05:49,470
road along the top,

3127
03:05:49,620 --> 03:05:54,540
we're on the seawall. So the
seawall is where the bulk of the

3128
03:05:54,540 --> 03:05:57,960
condos are. This is where people
come and stay in hotels. They

3129
03:05:57,960 --> 03:06:00,720
walk across seawall Boulevard,
which is the road we're driving

3130
03:06:00,720 --> 03:06:05,130
on. They dropped down off of the
17 foot seawall on stairs, not

3131
03:06:05,130 --> 03:06:05,610
jumping,

3132
03:06:06,720 --> 03:06:10,560
and beach and on a calm date.
It's difficult to imagine that

3133
03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:13,860
water could ever come over the
top of this wall. It really does

3134
03:06:13,860 --> 03:06:17,250
look like it will protect the
city forever. And maybe it would

3135
03:06:17,250 --> 03:06:19,260
have if not for climate change.

3136
03:06:20,880 --> 03:06:23,460
Adam Curry: All right, but
people are just not working

3137
03:06:23,460 --> 03:06:24,000
anymore.

3138
03:06:24,269 --> 03:06:27,149
John C Dvorak: The psychological
warfare hold disagreement.

3139
03:06:27,179 --> 03:06:29,099
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, I'm
going to play you this will be

3140
03:06:29,099 --> 03:06:32,339
the final clip. I would warn
everyone there's a lot of F

3141
03:06:32,339 --> 03:06:36,599
bombs in this one. It is Young
Turks, the Young Turks show with

3142
03:06:36,599 --> 03:06:39,869
chunck, who turns out to be
Justin and I mean, like you

3143
03:06:39,869 --> 03:06:42,869
didn't know he was an elitist
douchebag but it is.

3144
03:06:43,410 --> 03:06:46,770
John C Dvorak: Are they throwing
F bombs around the Young Turks

3145
03:06:46,770 --> 03:06:47,940
show? Oh, yeah,

3146
03:06:47,970 --> 03:06:51,780
Adam Curry: Ana Kasparian. Now
she she's the she's the worst

3147
03:06:51,780 --> 03:06:54,510
but listen to what's happening
with her. She's starting to

3148
03:06:54,510 --> 03:06:58,440
connect the dots you starting to
figure out that she's been

3149
03:06:58,530 --> 03:07:02,880
hoodwinked and she's so mad that
she just keeps dropping the

3150
03:07:03,210 --> 03:07:03,720
she's the

3151
03:07:03,720 --> 03:07:05,760
John C Dvorak: type that if she
figures out she's been

3152
03:07:05,790 --> 03:07:09,420
hoodwinked, she'd go nuts do
people quit smoking?

3153
03:07:09,449 --> 03:07:13,109
Unknown: Well listen to this way
that it happens is I know that

3154
03:07:13,139 --> 03:07:17,099
in in California at least with
the phasing out of gas powered

3155
03:07:17,099 --> 03:07:21,449
cars, and they'll probably do
the same thing with gas stoves

3156
03:07:21,479 --> 03:07:27,929
is they just ban the sale of any
new gas powered cars or any new

3157
03:07:27,929 --> 03:07:32,129
gas stoves and so the technology
that you have in your home the

3158
03:07:32,129 --> 03:07:35,759
gas stove that you have in your
home if it breaks not only are

3159
03:07:35,759 --> 03:07:38,639
you not able to buy a new one
but it gets increasingly more

3160
03:07:38,639 --> 03:07:42,209
difficult to just repair it you
get what I'm saying? And so like

3161
03:07:43,260 --> 03:07:46,830
bumps that's the normal bumps in
the road listen to this elitist

3162
03:07:46,830 --> 03:07:47,940
cock though

3163
03:07:47,970 --> 03:07:50,490
Adam Curry: I get it but you
don't it's just normal bump in

3164
03:07:50,490 --> 03:07:55,050
the road you know? I can I can
just replace it I'm chunk from

3165
03:07:55,050 --> 03:07:56,070
the Young Turks.

3166
03:07:57,030 --> 03:07:59,490
Unknown: Not only are you not
able to buy a new one, but it

3167
03:07:59,490 --> 03:08:02,580
gets increasingly more difficult
to just repair it. You get what

3168
03:08:02,580 --> 03:08:04,140
I'm saying? And so like

3169
03:08:04,170 --> 03:08:07,470
I get bumped that's the normal
bumps in the road as you

3170
03:08:07,470 --> 03:08:08,490
transition to things

3171
03:08:08,520 --> 03:08:11,520
I know but junk like don't
minimize the financial burdens

3172
03:08:11,520 --> 03:08:14,220
associated with these things.
Okay, well I'm just like I am

3173
03:08:14,280 --> 03:08:16,110
literally freaking the fuck out

3174
03:08:16,140 --> 03:08:19,350
Adam Curry: yeah, here we go. Oh
chunk Whoa, about the charging

3175
03:08:19,350 --> 03:08:19,740
station

3176
03:08:19,740 --> 03:08:22,440
Unknown: thing. Like it's going
to cost we're gonna take out a

3177
03:08:22,440 --> 03:08:25,710
massive fucking loan to pay for
it. We're not getting any help

3178
03:08:25,710 --> 03:08:27,210
from the fucking government on
that.

3179
03:08:28,110 --> 03:08:32,370
You guys ask Is there any tax
credits? But seriously,

3180
03:08:32,490 --> 03:08:35,490
Adam Curry: okay, so now Trump
goes again with the wall you

3181
03:08:35,490 --> 03:08:38,610
know your little people like you
Anna of course you're just a

3182
03:08:38,610 --> 03:08:42,090
hired gun you can get it didn't
you inquire about your tax

3183
03:08:42,090 --> 03:08:47,580
credits can you get a tax credit
and it's amazing and Experian

3184
03:08:47,670 --> 03:08:50,280
turning into a human being
before your very eyes

3185
03:08:50,820 --> 03:08:52,860
Unknown: JC there's no
government help at all

3186
03:08:54,420 --> 03:08:55,560
about tax credits

3187
03:08:55,590 --> 03:08:57,150
no no I'm saying for the HOA

3188
03:08:57,240 --> 03:08:58,500
no there's been no

3189
03:08:58,530 --> 03:09:00,540
Adam Curry: well I mean for the
you know for those of you who

3190
03:09:00,540 --> 03:09:04,230
are stuck in an HOA unlike me
I'm chunk I have a mansion but

3191
03:09:04,230 --> 03:09:07,620
you have the HOA have to get
some tax credit somehow and help

3192
03:09:07,650 --> 03:09:08,760
Unknown: out all the transition
you

3193
03:09:08,760 --> 03:09:11,310
guys thought about tax credits
No, no, I'm

3194
03:09:11,310 --> 03:09:12,450
saying for the HOA

3195
03:09:12,930 --> 03:09:15,540
there's been no talk of tax
credits. I haven't seen anything

3196
03:09:15,540 --> 03:09:18,330
about tax credits. I should look
into it maybe there are tax

3197
03:09:18,330 --> 03:09:20,790
credits but I don't give a fuck
about tax credits because you

3198
03:09:20,790 --> 03:09:24,390
have to shell out cash okay,
like I just

3199
03:09:24,750 --> 03:09:27,150
Adam Curry: Oh she's figured out
that you actually have to pay

3200
03:09:27,150 --> 03:09:31,200
for something before the tax
credits kick in this she's she's

3201
03:09:31,230 --> 03:09:32,490
she's melting down.

3202
03:09:32,670 --> 03:09:35,370
Unknown: I want to do something
in response to climate change.

3203
03:09:35,370 --> 03:09:40,020
That is not my my issue here. My
issue is how like we're forced

3204
03:09:40,020 --> 03:09:44,010
to make all these changes that
are a financial burden a giant

3205
03:09:44,010 --> 03:09:47,490
inconvenience with like little
to no help and the solution from

3206
03:09:47,490 --> 03:09:50,040
the government in terms of like
no no you get you get financial

3207
03:09:50,040 --> 03:09:53,550
benefits for doing this spoken
tax credits. No, I don't want I

3208
03:09:53,550 --> 03:09:56,250
don't want the tax credits. I
want give me the money. Ah,

3209
03:09:56,250 --> 03:10:00,720
there it is. I want my day. Give
you give me the money. Okay,

3210
03:10:00,840 --> 03:10:03,240
don't tell me this bullshit
about how I have to buy like

3211
03:10:03,240 --> 03:10:06,390
some new fucking thing because
the government forces me to do

3212
03:10:06,390 --> 03:10:11,250
it. And then like, after I file
my taxes, there's a certain

3213
03:10:11,250 --> 03:10:14,580
portion of that purchase that
might be tax deductible like

3214
03:10:14,580 --> 03:10:15,420
fuck off.

3215
03:10:18,630 --> 03:10:21,330
Adam Curry: I love that she is
doing this publicly. It's so

3216
03:10:21,390 --> 03:10:24,780
this is this is very therapeutic
for her go Anna, we're on your

3217
03:10:24,780 --> 03:10:26,250
side. I'm

3218
03:10:26,910 --> 03:10:32,400
Unknown: sick of it. It's just a
truck. That purchase that might

3219
03:10:32,400 --> 03:10:37,320
be tax deductible like fuck off.
I'm so sick of it. It's just

3220
03:10:38,130 --> 03:10:41,310
like endless pressure, pressure,
pressure, pressure.

3221
03:10:42,330 --> 03:10:45,690
Yeah, I hear you and, and we ask
too much of the middle class we

3222
03:10:45,690 --> 03:10:47,970
ask too much of the average
person this is the most

3223
03:10:48,000 --> 03:10:49,650
fucked group of people in this
country.

3224
03:10:49,680 --> 03:10:50,760
No, I hear you on all that

3225
03:10:50,820 --> 03:10:52,980
Adam Curry: I hear and all that.
But I hear you. But that's not

3226
03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:55,920
me. Don't worry. And that's not
mad at some

3227
03:10:55,920 --> 03:10:58,860
Unknown: point. Do we got to go
to electric cars, we don't have

3228
03:10:58,860 --> 03:11:02,400
a choice. Like the plants
burning. So we gotta go to the

3229
03:11:02,430 --> 03:11:07,650
John the planets burning or so?
When Fornia says, I mean,

3230
03:11:07,650 --> 03:11:10,050
Adam Curry: how can he sit there
with a straight face while she's

3231
03:11:10,050 --> 03:11:13,080
melting down? And say well, you
know, I mean, you know, okay,

3232
03:11:13,080 --> 03:11:15,960
middle classes do bad but about
planets burning? Is the planet

3233
03:11:15,960 --> 03:11:20,070
burning? Is that is that the
window? That if you see I don't

3234
03:11:20,070 --> 03:11:23,730
see anything burning in Texas.
Nothing burning here. No,

3235
03:11:23,730 --> 03:11:25,380
there's nothing burning this
country.

3236
03:11:25,410 --> 03:11:28,350
Unknown: No, I hear you on all
that. But at some point do we

3237
03:11:28,350 --> 03:11:30,990
got to go to electric cars, we
don't have a choice. We don't

3238
03:11:30,990 --> 03:11:34,020
have a choice. Like the plants
burning. So we gotta go to

3239
03:11:34,020 --> 03:11:37,500
electric cars. So when
California says hey, let's go to

3240
03:11:37,500 --> 03:11:42,600
electric cars by whatever the
number is. 2025 etc. Yeah, yeah,

3241
03:11:42,600 --> 03:11:45,990
it's gonna be tough. But yeah,
but but not for me because I'm

3242
03:11:45,990 --> 03:11:48,840
chunk because same time now
prices are coming down. Oh,

3243
03:11:48,840 --> 03:11:50,400
didn't get any cheaper.

3244
03:11:50,400 --> 03:11:51,660
Adam Curry: No, they're not
right.

3245
03:11:51,690 --> 03:11:53,700
Unknown: Okay, dry. Right.

3246
03:11:53,820 --> 03:11:58,710
Let's not minimize the cost of
like actually charging those

3247
03:11:58,710 --> 03:11:59,520
cars. Right?

3248
03:11:59,790 --> 03:12:02,190
Adam Curry: Right. Okay. By the
way, she's gonna screw up here.

3249
03:12:02,190 --> 03:12:05,640
She's gonna say electric, but
she means gasoline. Because

3250
03:12:05,640 --> 03:12:08,400
Unknown: here's the here's the
other thing. So Gavin Newsom

3251
03:12:08,430 --> 03:12:11,220
pushes for and succeeds in
passing legislation in

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03:12:11,220 --> 03:12:14,550
California that would ban the
sale of electric cars actually

3253
03:12:14,550 --> 03:12:18,450
means gas cars at a certain
year. I think it is 2025 If I'm

3254
03:12:18,450 --> 03:12:21,900
not mistaken. Maybe not. Maybe
it's 2035. I don't remember the

3255
03:12:21,900 --> 03:12:25,170
exact year but eventually,
pretty soon, you're no longer

3256
03:12:25,170 --> 03:12:28,200
going to be able to buy a gas
powered car in California.

3257
03:12:29,850 --> 03:12:34,560
Literally, like that same month,
Kevin knew seems like there's a

3258
03:12:34,560 --> 03:12:38,790
heat wave and our energy grid
really can't handle it. And so

3259
03:12:38,820 --> 03:12:41,160
I'm just going to ask you guys
if you have electric vehicles,

3260
03:12:41,160 --> 03:12:43,080
please don't charge them right
now. It's just

3261
03:12:44,430 --> 03:12:45,300
no you can't do that.

3262
03:12:46,260 --> 03:12:48,420
Adam Curry: I mean, she's
figuring it out.

3263
03:12:48,900 --> 03:12:51,840
John C Dvorak: No, she's not
Yes, she is. It's just a

3264
03:12:51,840 --> 03:12:54,360
personal thing with her. She
likes gas stoves.

3265
03:12:56,520 --> 03:12:58,680
Adam Curry: I have hope for Ana
Kasparian

3266
03:12:59,160 --> 03:13:03,750
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well you do
I don't Well, I think it's a

3267
03:13:03,750 --> 03:13:05,250
good clip though. Is it good and
funny

3268
03:13:05,280 --> 03:13:08,400
Adam Curry: go Anna go and you
can do it Anna you can do it

3269
03:13:08,910 --> 03:13:09,690
though she can't

3270
03:13:11,100 --> 03:13:13,080
John C Dvorak: you manage the
meal you

3271
03:13:14,100 --> 03:13:18,510
Adam Curry: Sunday will be
another deconstruction and I

3272
03:13:18,510 --> 03:13:21,330
have oh I got to talk about this
after the show. We have two

3273
03:13:21,330 --> 03:13:26,880
great shows one for the Thursday
which I'll be the day after my

3274
03:13:26,880 --> 03:13:30,420
surgery. So I won't be able to
do the show and then in case I

3275
03:13:30,420 --> 03:13:33,060
can't do the Sunday we have
another one but I hopefully I'll

3276
03:13:33,060 --> 03:13:33,870
be able to do that.

3277
03:13:35,850 --> 03:13:37,680
John C Dvorak: Yes, I'm aware of
the situation a

3278
03:13:37,680 --> 03:13:41,490
Adam Curry: compilation of shows
one through 100 it's dynamite.

3279
03:13:41,910 --> 03:13:44,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have to
do some Yeah, it's gonna be

3280
03:13:44,880 --> 03:13:48,960
good. Coming up next great
people that do

3281
03:13:48,960 --> 03:13:52,470
Adam Curry: stuff we do coming
up next. We have what do we have

3282
03:13:52,470 --> 03:13:57,690
here? bowl after bowl of special
420 show of course. And we have

3283
03:13:57,750 --> 03:14:00,960
end of show mixes from DS laughs
and Mr. information coming to

3284
03:14:00,960 --> 03:14:03,180
you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country he and FEMA Region

3285
03:14:03,180 --> 03:14:05,760
number six in the morning
everybody I'm Adam curry

3286
03:14:06,180 --> 03:14:09,210
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain

3287
03:14:09,210 --> 03:14:10,110
I'm John C. Dvorak

3288
03:14:10,140 --> 03:14:13,020
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday
live for you please join us then

3289
03:14:13,020 --> 03:14:21,150
until then remember us at
divorcecourt.org/na Hui Hui, and

3290
03:14:21,150 --> 03:14:21,750
such

3291
03:14:23,670 --> 03:14:26,580
Unknown: first thing in the
morning I'm thinking God we your

3292
03:14:26,580 --> 03:14:30,120
wildlife to him this Darwinism
is at odds the time to go well

3293
03:14:30,120 --> 03:14:33,600
on again along this past memory
hold the narrative and shine

3294
03:14:33,600 --> 03:14:37,320
light upon the gas. New word I
learned from Millennials called

3295
03:14:37,320 --> 03:14:40,650
a trauma. Snowflake don't judge
unless your name is Donald

3296
03:14:40,650 --> 03:14:44,280
Trump. The deranged syndrome is
now inside your home whether

3297
03:14:44,280 --> 03:14:47,250
from the parents he just
screens, your Bremen zone zoned

3298
03:14:47,250 --> 03:14:51,660
out they gotta be at a panicum
COVID was not necessary. Yes, we

3299
03:14:51,660 --> 03:14:54,780
know who planned it. lamestream
media newsreaders hacking

3300
03:14:54,780 --> 03:14:58,500
somatic Trudeau sounding so
breathy and accusatory couldn't

3301
03:14:58,500 --> 03:15:01,740
stand it the pleasures of the
flesh I used to SubCom using

3302
03:15:02,280 --> 03:15:06,270
drugs and healing leaving me
better to engage in a healthy

3303
03:15:06,270 --> 03:15:09,990
way habits for good or bad stick
to your word and maybe do what

3304
03:15:09,990 --> 03:15:14,340
you say back to my writing back
on my hobbyhorse. For three

3305
03:15:14,340 --> 03:15:17,550
years the government does with
no remorse Don Lemon says a

3306
03:15:17,550 --> 03:15:21,060
woman is past a prime in their
40s and was beat up by the

3307
03:15:21,060 --> 03:15:25,710
liberals. I guess I'll end there
with some light. I guess I'll

3308
03:15:25,710 --> 03:15:29,400
end it with salt daddy, right
and Dalai Lama has a kid Hey,

3309
03:15:29,400 --> 03:15:32,970
sup my tongue kiss was a bit
much do they were really that

3310
03:15:34,200 --> 03:15:36,060
was in that moment. And

3311
03:15:36,540 --> 03:15:41,340
they told this story about how
sticking one's tongue out is

3312
03:15:41,340 --> 03:15:45,300
known as a traditional breeding
in Tibet. And it stems from a

3313
03:15:45,300 --> 03:15:49,020
ninth century myth about an
unpopular king. And after they

3314
03:15:49,020 --> 03:15:51,990
told this whole story they
concluded it by then saying

3315
03:15:52,020 --> 03:15:54,510
tongue sucking does not appear
to be part of this tradition.

3316
03:15:54,540 --> 03:15:58,050
Thank you NPR for telling us a
meaningless story that this

3317
03:15:58,050 --> 03:16:02,760
is something that's not real
it's it's something that stirs

3318
03:16:02,760 --> 03:16:09,210
up hatred stirs up division and
serves someone or some entity

3319
03:16:10,140 --> 03:16:12,720
that benefits from our

3320
03:16:12,720 --> 03:16:16,350
show notes strictly digital you
cannot tear this I'm a single

3321
03:16:16,350 --> 03:16:19,110
point of attention the state of
infinite awareness Tiger

3322
03:16:19,110 --> 03:16:22,680
renegade game live long enough
to flip flop attacks on Mr

3323
03:16:22,680 --> 03:16:27,000
information or attacks on hip
hop so piece to the troll drove

3324
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:30,060
from feel free to quote this
Adam criticize the little guys

3325
03:16:30,060 --> 03:16:33,750
because wrapped is atrocious.
sprachen buzz please quit rockin

3326
03:16:33,750 --> 03:16:37,200
with those rumble geeks. Aisaka
MCs get caught in the breeze

3327
03:16:37,200 --> 03:16:40,980
like bumble bees. I'm just a
douche bag labeled anti Vax mofo

3328
03:16:40,980 --> 03:16:45,540
loose fg peruse in a news reg
wearing a fanny pack a go and

3329
03:16:45,540 --> 03:16:49,230
you're wrong. Are you the man
das s? Was it a plan to attack

3330
03:16:49,230 --> 03:16:53,010
sack where's my brand? And
where's Chrissy? Prolly out now?

3331
03:16:53,880 --> 03:16:57,540
shows a Whitmore spook snapples
we eat cheese man change light

3332
03:16:57,540 --> 03:17:00,210
from the heavens shines
brightest on the seventh day

3333
03:17:00,210 --> 03:17:04,260
when life gives you don lemons
make fucking lemonade JC these

3334
03:17:04,260 --> 03:17:07,860
stolen when they speak who wrote
to that news model type of

3335
03:17:07,860 --> 03:17:12,150
speech and T are always quick to
breach rage haters go toe to toe

3336
03:17:12,210 --> 03:17:15,540
trying to say I'm not a slave.
That's a joke pass a smoke I do

3337
03:17:15,540 --> 03:17:20,550
believe that I stay forward with
the game and Adam curry back

3338
03:17:20,550 --> 03:17:23,130
when the flames drifted wherever
wherever you connection is

3339
03:17:23,130 --> 03:17:26,310
protection from elections and
corruption no selections Miss

3340
03:17:26,310 --> 03:17:28,530
directions insurrections our
production.

3341
03:17:43,440 --> 03:17:50,460
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