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John C Dvorak: Ah, incompatible
hardware. Adam curry,

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Adam Curry: Sunday, May 21 2023.
This Year Award winning

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accumulation media assassination
episode 1557.

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Unknown: This is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: casing a charm
offensive. broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in the region

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number six in the morning,
everybody.

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John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon

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Valley, where we're all cheering
Karen a Fuji who's one eight in

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a row in the main tournament.
I'm John Seymour. It

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Adam Curry: never ceases to
amaze me. We're in the middle of

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on the brink of a nuclear war.
We have all kinds of horrible

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things happening climate change,
but we still have sumo wrestling

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to fall back on.

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John C Dvorak: And the big
Yokozuna is back

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Adam Curry: are you all jacked?
How long has it been going on

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the the the tour the
competition? Eight days, and

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you've been watching every
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John C Dvorak: I missed the
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Adam Curry: and who are we
supposed to vote for your vote?

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I have a route.

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Unknown: I mean, Rudy the road

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John C Dvorak: for deleting
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Adam Curry: Okay

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John C Dvorak: terreno Fuji he's
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Adam Curry: on all these
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John C Dvorak: no no. The big
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couple of decades have been
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these big Mongolians are really
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and he's a Mongolian and Okay,
so Ben wonder pounds 200 That

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Adam Curry: we know now in New
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can't discriminate against fat
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John C Dvorak: It was already a
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Adam Curry: I think it's just
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John C Dvorak: virtuous. Yes.

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Adam Curry: We got a we got let
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I missed it. I didn't even
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we know that a lot is happening.
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Unknown: Tonight charm offense.
Ukraine's president makes a so

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stopping visit to the g7 summit
in Japan. hello to Mr. Lynch

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keep pushing for more war aid
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course against Russia's
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For ultimate Zelensky knows
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Europe about how long Ukraine's
war effort can be supported. For

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now. He's hoping that Sharma
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allies to turn solidarity into
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as president Solinsky he's been
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the last couple of days. What
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France and now the UK what he
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unsurprisingly is more weapons
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seems like Britain's gonna get
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needed charm offensive so there
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bargaining and charm offensive
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be hoping to go home with a lot
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jets from the Netherlands 18
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full arsenal the full money so
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and I think Eddie you probably
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his trip to Japan. bruited about
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actually there. I got

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he is he arrived today and this
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Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
man, this is a worldwide

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phenomenon. The charm, the charm
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John C Dvorak: The smells of
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points from smells like
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gonna talk g7 I had the g7
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Adam Curry: All right. Well,
there's nothing like little NPR

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in the morning

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Unknown: and Pure White House
correspondent Scott Tetro joins

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us from Hiroshima. Scott, thanks
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John C Dvorak: Was it really
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Adam Curry: Do we need to clip
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John C Dvorak: I did, because I
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dropped an atom bomb on that
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whole area, but yet, just really
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having meetings there. So how
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Adam Curry: I don't know. And
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so they had to How to do it to
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John C Dvorak: So the point is
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side still freakishly weird
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was decimated but not desperate.
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That's That's why I stopped
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Adam Curry: That's real. That's
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know, oh, we still can't go to
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John C Dvorak: very expiration
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but now he's actually there I
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Adam Curry: What kind of intro
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like he's there. He's actually
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John C Dvorak: there. This guy
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Unknown: a load of Merrill Lynch
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about reported online at about
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Adam Curry: got what is bruited
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John C Dvorak: I guess people
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Unknown: he is. He arrived
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the middle of an extended charm
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coming ahead. What we expect
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offensive from Ukraine.
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the country much for obvious
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year of the war. Then he had
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at the end of last year. And
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visiting heads of government in
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immediately after Zelinsky made
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League in Saudi Arabia the other
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his exact agenda here in
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one meeting with President Biden
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President Biden now indicates
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acquiring F 16 fighter jets from
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Adam Curry: Wow, I bet you know
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John C Dvorak: Well, she that it
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Adam Curry: This is this is a
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John C Dvorak: Now the question
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Adam Curry: Entertainment
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John C Dvorak: Exactly. And so
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it. The two of them laugh and
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guy is like everybody else, I
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reporter forced to do real news
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guess, but I couldn't be wrong.
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Adam Curry: I gotta give it to
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early, but still, that we've
never heard the gift bags in

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reporting. And this is NPR. You
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when it's when the world is on
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John C Dvorak: I find it
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Unknown: But on a serious note,
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how the US areas are arming
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begging for these jets for more
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Russia to broaden the war and
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countries. But now, this week,
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today, National Security Adviser
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adjusted its position based on
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how Ukraine has responded. He
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increased the magnitude of the
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Adam Curry: will kind of
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the point of having if you can't
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John C Dvorak: this is not
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Adam Curry: No, you're correct.
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sent the Ukraine by $3 billion.
Reuters cited today Defense

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officials who said weapons taken
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the equipment sent to Ukraine
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Adam Curry: So we just magically
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appear thanks to an accounting
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John C Dvorak: So you can send
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Adam Curry: can send them 3
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John C Dvorak: were sending and
I don't I thought we were

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sending them out, like value
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Adam Curry: Well, it's because
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money that has been appropriated
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little more apparently, for the
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from our insiders in the
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f6 teams are fine, but you've
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parts the maintenance you have
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manuals in Ukrainian so you need
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ground, which is what you've
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you need to have the right
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John C Dvorak: this is not like
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Adam Curry: And also, according
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Ukrainian fighters will need
quite a jet fighter pilots will

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need quite a lot of training
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ruin these jets. It's not as
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29 a beat up old piece of crap.
I'm going to jump in a f 16 and

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fly it you know, takes a little
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and we bring in a the head
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this the guy? where's the
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the spring the counter offensive
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John C Dvorak: Wait a minute.
Yeah, I would say if it goes

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into summer, yeah, it's too late
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offensive, but you can do a
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this is going to take years

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operating to their potential.
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flying around. But that isn't
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system. And putting that system
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scratch. But there's a lot to do
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least the training of the
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Adam Curry: I'm so amazed at
France 24 is really the only

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honest outfit out there. And so
of course, the question is what

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really what changed? Does this
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they saber rattling threats for
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artillery system in much earlier
in the war, calling all that

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escalation this against the
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deliver on these jets? How many
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countries are required to get to
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Adam Curry: Yeah. And wouldn't
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what he said. The Netherlands
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the country and Drake, an
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private company for the sale of
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finally gotten the Netherlands
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olanski is over in Saudi Arabia
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Unknown: here at the summit who
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John C Dvorak: stop there you
get the timeline? Correct. He

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was in Saudi Arabia before he
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Adam Curry: Okay, but this is
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Unknown: So here at the summit
who have a different view on the

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war on our land, calling it a
conflict, I'm sure that we can

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all be united in saving people
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Adam Curry: the cages of Russian
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about an attack on on Ukraine
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you who turn a blind eye to
those cages and illegal

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annexations

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Adam Curry: and what cages have
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reporting of cages or people
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up and thrown in jail? I

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Unknown: to those cages and
illegal annexations and I'm here

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so that everyone can take an
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the Russians tried to influence,
there must still be independence

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in the occupied Crimea are
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Adam Curry: I don't understand
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almost like it was an insert the
audio goes way down and then we

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get something about the
occupiers of Muslim listen

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independence in the occupied

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Crimea, Muslim and the

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Adam Curry: occupied in Crimea
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John C Dvorak: yes, it was noted
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this he was appealing to the
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is like a mother. You didn't
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had to, I think that's
surprising to

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Adam Curry: sounds inserted

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John C Dvorak: because Because
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trying to make it sound as
though they're going to help

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their fellow members of the
ummah.

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Adam Curry: This is a chat GPT
glitch that went wrong.

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Unknown: There must still be
independence in the occupied

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Crimea. Muslim, I'm more than
sure that none of you will agree

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to surrender a thought of your
country to the invaders. And I'm

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more than sure none of you would
watch without a fight how

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foreigners steal the children of
your people,

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Adam Curry: our back to stealing
the children. Okay, that's what

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we need to just the children got
it. Okay, so now we have the

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news that Bach mood has been
taken has been taken by of

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course, our favorite the Wagner
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John C Dvorak: And if you want
which clip Do you have because I

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have one from NPR. That is,
well, I have a Deutsche Ella

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sure BS.

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Adam Curry: Let's do yours
first. Because Georgia Bella is

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the CIA. So let's listen to
yours first. Hold on. What's it

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called? Oh, a bull crap. No.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, it's called
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Adam Curry: Oh, got it. Okay,

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Unknown: here we go. I heard of
a Russian mercenary force a they

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have completely captured the
eastern Ukrainian city of Bach

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moot. amperes Charles Maynes has
more WhatsApp.

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video posted to social media.
The head of the Wagner mercenary

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group of Guinea precaution said
after more than seven months of

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fighting in what he called the
meat grinder of Bach moot his

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forces it sees the city in its
entirety. Yet even as precaution

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spoken to the camera explosions
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precaution also read up
complaints the Russian defense

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ministries top brass had
intentionally started Wagner of

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arms during the siege, costing
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as he said responsibility for
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to the Russian army while his
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Ukraine denied precautions
claims with officials and key

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have seen heavy fighting and
bucketload continued.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, now a
couple of things. Didn't we hear

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that this guy whose name I can't
pronounce Rigoni rugosa.

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Adam Curry: Ran Wagner.

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John C Dvorak: Mr. Wagner, he
just recently said well, we're

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gonna leave we're quitting.
We're going to leave this and

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leave it to the Russian screw
up. Yeah. as though they were

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going to just bail. Yeah. Well,
now he says, Well, we took over

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the place that we're going to
leave it to the Russians. I

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mean, these stories are just
annoying. They're these days

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reporting is sucks. It's
dreadful, but also,

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Adam Curry: what is so so so
Some media video shows this dude

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this Putzmeister Putzmeister
promotion and he's got a run hot

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dog man a hot dog man he's got a
flag he's got like eight guys

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behind him who look I'm telling
you look like Dad's Army they

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don't look like the killing
machine that the you know the

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the fiercest killing horrible
fighters smashing people with

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sledgehammers that we heard
about. And that's it. That's the

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whole and then

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John C Dvorak: yeah, there's
that forgot about that aspect of

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it. This these bullcrap stories
about the sledge hammers? Yeah.

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Adam Curry: So here's Deutsche
Avella, which is always approved

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by the CIA,

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Unknown: and with yassky 1000s
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Russia's Vagner mercenary group

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has claimed a breakthrough
through fields getting corrosion

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claims in this video that his
forces have fully captured the

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eastern city of Buck wound.
Ukraine's military has been

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quick to deny the ruined city
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are still defending their
positions. But he is what should

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we make of precautions claims?

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a few streets that were left

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under Ukrainian control
yesterday. More until recently,

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it's precisely these streets
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says that fights are still going
on that they would put up

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resistance, but the situation
was critical. So it's very hard

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to say, what's what's the exact
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unlikely that by the end of the
day or this weekend, Wagner will

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have full control over the city
if they don't have it yet. It's

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also possible of course, that
the Ukrainians can hold on

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further this could be

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the Russians in check in order
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attempt to keep them there. It's
hard to say, but it's clear that

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has really advanced until a
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Adam Curry: Alright, so for
weeks this was this was this was

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the pinnacle, the whole war
hinged on Bach Moog Bach mood

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Bach mood, now it's street
couple streets maybe doesn't

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Unknown: dude. And what's the
significance? If it does take

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all of back them up? Does it
change the strategic situation,

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maybe the situation on the
ground with the Russian troops

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because it wouldn't be their
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that's also significant in a

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war. But it is not the strategic
place that it has been sometimes

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made. In the discussion. It is a
place that sits at a crossroads

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where Russia would need to take
it if it wants to advance

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further. But it's also not that
the roads are open for them to

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advance as they please if if
they just control this town,

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it's more of a symbolic victory
because remember, this fight

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around the city has been going
on for many many months, and

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it's been the most heavy the
hotspot of the war for many,

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many months. So it would
certainly be a symbolic victory

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John C Dvorak: case. This guy
was just getting trained by CNN

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remember this good stuff? Yes.
Yeah. Left. Oh, my God is

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looking left looking right. What
you're wearing a helmet.

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Adam Curry: No, he wasn't. He
wasn't about he was he was just

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in his office. He was in in his
office in in chief. me this.

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This is but this is my point.
This is wag the dog. It's just a

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bunch of this was the most
important fight, but I screwed

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that we got f 16 is coming guy.
It'll be in a couple of years.

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But you know. And then Reuters
reports. A couple years.

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Reuters. Reuters reports that in
the forthcoming July NATO Summit

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in Vilnius leaders are set to
approve 1000s of pages of secret

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military plans that will detail
for the first time since the

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Cold War, Cold War, how the
alliance will respond to a

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Russian attack. These people are
insane. They love war. They just

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love it.

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John C Dvorak: They're raising
money.

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Adam Curry: Well, yeah, of
course. But you know, it's like

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this is stupid. Now, I have a
couple of clips of also from

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NPR, of this, of the Arab
summit, the Arab League Summit,

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because who shows up all of a
sudden, Angelina Jolie and bad

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Brad Pitt's buddy? Assad
pleaders? Yeah

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Unknown: crossback. He's back
worlds are meeting in Saudi

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Arabia and someone who hasn't
been in the room for over a

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decade is making a reappearance.

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Syria's President Bashar Al
Assad is officially ending years

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of isolation by the region's
powers. Over his brutal civil

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war that's killed an estimated
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Washington has condemned the
kingdom's normalization of ties

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with Assad and the invitation is
seen as another sign of the

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strained relationship between
the US and Saudi Arabia's at

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a of a trial he is in Jeddah.
That's where this year's Arab

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League Summit is taking place.
Good morning. Good morning.

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Morning, Leila.

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Adam Curry: So the NPR stop has
got to stop. Good morning. Good

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morning. Good morning, America.
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Unknown: is taking place. Good
morning. Good morning. The

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return of Bashar Al Assad who
was something of a pariah over

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his crackdown on the opposition
to his rule, the torture in

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prisons, the hundreds of 1000s
who have been killed in the

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Civil War. Now he's just being
welcomed back.

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Adam Curry: This is such bull
crap. We this was all a hoax.

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All the bombing of the chemical
weapons of his own people, the

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White Helmets. The whole thing
was a hoax. I mean, this is as

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if it as if all of that was
never happened that was never

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deconstructed. NPR just goes Oh,
yeah, memory was killing his own

460
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people. His dad did that for
sure. But this what is he? Isn't

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he an eye doctor? I think he's
an eye doctor. absolute

462
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,070
knowledge. Yeah.
ophthalmologist? Yeah, this

463
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horrible guy with a list?

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Unknown: Well, yeah, I mean,
that is pretty much what's

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happened. Look, there are
countries important ones like

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Egypt and the United Arab
Emirates that had already been

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building back their ties into
Syria for years now. But the big

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shift really happened after
February's earthquakes that

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struck Turkey and parts of
Syria. It gave Saudi Arabia and

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other countries around the fence
in this region, what they needed

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to reengage with Syria, at least
for humanitarian purposes at

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first, but not everyone in the
region agrees with this embrace

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of acid, Qatar and Kuwait are
both opposed. And the image of

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Assad being welcomed here on the
red carpet yesterday when he

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arrived in Jeddah is jarring to
many Syrians as well. We've got

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to

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John C Dvorak: figure out you
know, I've got to figure this

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out. This can this works out
with zolecki going to Saudi

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Arabia and slamming the Russians
because the real problem was

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Syria and us and our people is
the Russia the Russians for

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Russian stronghold. They use it
as a docking port. They have

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every you know, bases there for
all practical purposes. And it's

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it's their kind of outpost why
we use other places, plenty. So

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they have their outpost in
Syria, and we make a big fuss

485
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about it and try to get rouse
them or others more. It's just

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sorry. Yes. And so you have this
phony baloney, Zelinsky going

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into Saudi Arabia for no good
reason except to slam the

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Russians. Because which is part
of a effort to keep Syria from

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RE you know, joining with the
Arab League, which didn't work

490
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because no one's gonna believe
this guy. He's a midget.

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Adam Curry: There's more from
NPR things that Lansky comes up

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to

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Unknown: is to remind people how
the war started in Syria, it was

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protest against essence rule
that were violently repressed

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that turned into a civil war.
Saudi Arabia, the host country

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today back the rebels trying to
topple Assad. And today, this

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return means what that is it has
officially won.

498
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Well, I mean, his country is an
economic crisis right now. And

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US sanctions are really impeding
efforts to normalize with him.

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But yeah, I mean, the effort to
topple him failed when Russia

501
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and Iran rushed to his side. And
now Syria, civil wars at a

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stalemate, millions of Syrian
refugees are waiting to return

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and that is going to require
rebuilding Syria and Arab states

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do want a piece of that. And
they're hoping Syria can

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reorient itself back to the Arab
fold and away from Iran, which

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still has a very big footprint
there.

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Adam Curry: Iran comes into the
play and as we know, the only

508
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two weeks away from having the
nuclear bomb. So as you

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mentioned,

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John C Dvorak: but yeah, that
was two weeks ago.

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Adam Curry: It was about two
weeks ago. Maybe it's two weeks

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more.

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Unknown: So as you mentioned,
Saudi is the region's

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powerbroker, lots of influence
economically, politically,

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religiously. What's Saudi Arabia
hoping to get out of the summit?

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The Kingdom wants to flex its
diplomatic muscles. Crown Prince

517
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Mohammed bin Salman was long
seen as a brash, impulsive, even

518
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unpredictable leader but he's
reversing course on a lot of

519
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that and trying to rebrand Saudi
Arabia as a mediator, including

520
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even in the war between Russia
and Ukraine. And I'm hearing

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from diplomatic sources that
Ukrainian president Volodymyr

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Zelensky has been invited to
attend the Arab League summit in

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Jeddah. So this is Prince
Mohammed really flexing that

524
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:35,070
ability resisting us pressure to
pick aside go against Russia

525
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while also inviting acid a
patron of Russia to a summit

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where Zielinski could be in
attendance. So it's really a

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crown prince showcasing his
power as a broker on the world

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stage and piarsaigh of a trolley
Ingenta Thank you.

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John C Dvorak: Jetta. It's had
analysis stinks horrible.

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Adam Curry: But that's NPR for
it's it's bricks, obviously.

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It's the bricks it's everyone's
putting together little groups,

532
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and we look like the day We
can't even count right? Oh, it's

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3 billion. Oh can give a little
extra money. So stupid. I have

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only see I have Kirby. I

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John C Dvorak: can't even count.

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Unknown: We can't even count
right oversee a president by

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Yes. Hey,

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Adam Curry: hey,

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John C Dvorak: hey you want you
know what they should do I have

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an idea. Oh, what do you want to
straighten things out? Don't

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worry about it out at the
Pentagon. Yeah. How did you

542
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know?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know.
It's just one of those things

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we've been talking about for 15
years.

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Unknown: Overseas, President
Biden is at the g7 summit in

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Japan. World leaders today
agreed to a new round of

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sanctions against Russia. Oh
CBSs Elizabeth Palmer reports.

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Your cranes Volodymyr Zelensky,
will join the meetings when he

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arrives this weekend.

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John C Dvorak: Wow, hold on a
second. What the hell's he got

551
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to do with the price of bread
when it comes to making this

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sort of decision, which is an
American decision? Was he gonna

553
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throw his two cents in? He's the
Yeah, he's the token but is he

554
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and his consultant now to our
government.

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Adam Curry: I love seeing Rishi
what's a Macron? And then queen,

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Ursula. I mean, so they have
their two countries as well. Of

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course the UK isn't but the
France is in the EU. So but the

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net I mean, don't other
countries. Oh, and the German

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guy to the German chancellor was
there. But there's a whole bunch

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of other countries they don't
get to go. I guess it's because

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they're not g7. But then Ursula,
does your EU count as a g7 or

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she also just a consultant
because she's she's not the

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leader of any Well, she's the,
you know, the President of the

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European Council. And by the
way, she didn't get the memo.

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She's wearing a pink like a pink
jacket and everyone else is

566
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black and dark and dark blue,

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John C Dvorak: but she should
wearing blue and yellow.

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Unknown: Ukrainian president
will be the summit special

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guests due to arrive here this
weekend. Zelinsky spent the day

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at the Arab summit in Saudi
Arabia looking for support from

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some leaders with close ties to
Moscow. He welcomed the

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announcement from President
Biden that the US would back to

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plan to train Ukrainian pilots
on us made F sixteens. This he

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wrote will greatly enhance our
army in the sky.

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Adam Curry: It's called an Air
Force douchebag army in the sky.

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This he wrote will greatly

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Unknown: enhance our army in the
sky. The Ukrainian leader has

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been asking for months that the
US provide F 16 to help turn the

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tide of war. A US official said
Mr. Biden is now committed to

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helping Ukraine get the Jets,
although they may actually be

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supplied by European allies.

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No, he doesn't need a 60s Now,
originally,

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to supply the planes as they
have the capacity to hit targets

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deep inside Russia, fighter
planes pose a certain risk of

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escalation. How big is it? We
have been mindful of the risk of

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escalation since the very
beginning. In fact, we've taken

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some criticism for that, because
we want to make sure that that

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as we support Ukraine, we aren't
making it worse for the

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Ukrainian people by having this
war escalate to be exactly what

590
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Putin wants it to be in claims
it to be a war about the West

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versus Russia or NATO versus
Russia.

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Adam Curry: I love I love how he
just projects us all out there.

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Putin claims that no, that would
be anti war people like us and

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you know, other people who just
don't want war. We see what's

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going on. No, no

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John C Dvorak: that was going
on. That was exactly what Putin

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said

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Unknown: now is going to take 16

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John C Dvorak: is coming from
Holland to train

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Unknown: those Ukrainian pilots
at sites in Europe. And we still

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don't know which countries
exactly are going to

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John C Dvorak: stop. So now this
report is discrepant, because I

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was under the impression from
the reports I've been listening

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to that they're going to train
the Ukrainian pilots in the

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United States. She just said
they're going to train him in

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Europe. Oh,

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Adam Curry: well, that's not
that could Poland maybe Poland,

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Germany. I'm Stein.

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John C Dvorak: I have no idea
where now Ramstein

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Unknown: Ramstein. Take time to
train those Ukrainian pilots at

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sites in Europe and we still
don't know which sites in Europe

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countries exactly are going to
supply the aircraft. So it's

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safe to say JB that we won't see
them in combat for months to

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come.

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Adam Curry: JB JB doesn't this
so if the Netherlands

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John C Dvorak: that was that was
CBS yeah CBS okay is probably it

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they're gonna trim in Europe. 10

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, let's
just let's say the Dutch and

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they're 40 F sixteens. to
Ukraine. Doesn't that mean the

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Dutch will logically be buying
new stuff. Oh, oh wow. Hey, new

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stuff. We can buy new gear.
Here, listen, people in the

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Netherlands, we have to do this
for Ukraine. Whatever it takes,

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don't worry, we'll tax you and
buy some more

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John C Dvorak: the F 16 is at
the end of its lifecycle, I

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think and I and I, and the
money, the models I I'm going to

626
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look it up. But the models have
changed substantially since the

627
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first released these so the old
pieces of crap F 16. That's what

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they're given them. The ones
that run on coal is the ones

629
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that don't owe the ones that run
coal. That's where the dust is

630
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,330
gonna be the ones that was it,
you know that you have to hand

631
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crank the engine to get

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Adam Curry: as far as Okay,
let's see what NBC had to say.

633
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Unknown: NBC News learning is at
Lenski is poised to get a major

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victory. The US and allies are
now planning to provide F 16

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fighter jet

636
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Adam Curry: though. That's this
is an interesting word usage, as

637
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,260
the Lensky is about to get a
major victory on the

638
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:56,130
battlefield, Buck moot.
Anything? No, he's going to get

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00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:57,450
f 16.

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John C Dvorak: That's the
victory. When I'm going to

641
00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:03,480
here's his pop quiz, pop quiz,
pop quiz. When was the first

642
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,040
flight of the first F 16?

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00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:12,330
Adam Curry: I'm going to guess
1984 1974.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, Lane is 50
years old.

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00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:18,420
Adam Curry: Well, that's just
the model. I mean, doesn't mean

646
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that the actual planes are that
old. They still they still crank

647
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:23,670
them out. Don't they? Don't they
still make them they don't make

648
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:25,140
them anymore. Willis

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John C Dvorak: has a number of
built has been 40 604 built as

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of June 2018. I'm not gonna look
I'll look into it. I don't think

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so.

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Unknown: Let's continue. Our NBC
reports and I NBC News learning

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00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:41,100
is the Lenski is poised to get a
major victory. The US and allies

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are now planning to provide F 16
fighter jets to Ukraine.

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According to a senior
administration official. It's

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unclear which countries will
provide the Jets. Still it's a

657
00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:54,870
move. The Biden administration
previously opposed same

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00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:58,350
Adam Curry: reporters CBS by the
exact same words, except they

659
00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:01,170
did slip in the US will be
providing them which is not

660
00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:01,530
true.

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00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:04,110
Unknown: And Kristen, we have a
bit of breaking news citing key

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00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:08,040
late word of more explosions,
more air defense measures being

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00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,650
deployed. And even though
President Solinsky had said

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those F 16 fighter jets would be
a game changer. It's not going

665
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:15,330
to happen overnight. Correct.

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Tom? That's right. It could take
months to deliver them. The

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00:37:19,050 --> 00:37:22,110
White House had been concerned
the move would provoke Russia.

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There was also the worry about
the cost. How long it would take

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Adam Curry: how was that
breaking news? By the way? What

670
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:30,690
was the breaking news we have
reports of of some Scud

671
00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:34,020
missiles? Oh, no wrong script.
We have some reports of some

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breaking news

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Unknown: time. That's right. It
could take weeks even months to

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deliver them. The White House
had been concerned the move

675
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would provoke Russia. There was
also the worry about the cost,

676
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how long it would take to train
the pilots when Zelinsky comes.

677
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He's expected to praise the move
and likely asked us for even

678
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more aid.

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Adam Curry: Oh, wow, this guy
really has a chokehold on us.

680
00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:57,090
He's going to praise us good
boys.

681
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. This
guy's desire to control more

682
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information. F 16. Background
are

683
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Adam Curry: okay. And by the
way, I'm sure we will have our

684
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boots on the ground set up
straight by Thursday show.

685
00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:13,590
John C Dvorak: Because that is
that is actually bullshit, which

686
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is what we're thinking. Yeah. So
the first jet these first

687
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planes, which went into service
and 78 were made by General

688
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Dynamics from 74 to 83, Lockheed
picked them up in 93, and

689
00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:30,840
started making them for a couple
of years. Then Lockheed Martin,

690
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,620
which was the Combine firm
started making them from 95 to

691
00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:37,110
the present. So they're still
being manufactured.

692
00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:40,830
Adam Curry: Wasn't that Not I,
for some reason, and so did

693
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General Dynamics,

694
00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:44,580
John C Dvorak: the old, whatever
old plains there are, the ones

695
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:46,830
are going to the Ukraine.

696
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:53,550
Adam Curry: There was Prince
Bernard of the Netherlands. And

697
00:38:53,550 --> 00:38:56,610
this was I think, in the 70s
probably was involved in

698
00:38:56,610 --> 00:39:01,290
something known as the Lockheed
scandal. When the prince of the

699
00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:04,020
Netherlands received a 1
million, which was a lot of

700
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money back there, back then a $1
million bribe. What was it for,

701
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,670
again, reasonable bribe at the
time? Yeah. I was in 1970s,

702
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:18,660
negotiating the sale of
aircraft. It was the Netherlands

703
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:23,490
was Germany, Italy, Japan, which
nearly led to Lockheed downfall.

704
00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:27,780
Anyway, for some reason that
just came to mind. Let's listen

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00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:31,680
to the movie The day the final
report from ABC.

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00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:34,440
Unknown: Today a senior
administration official tells

707
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:37,950
ABC News that President Biden
has informed that g7 allies

708
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:40,920
Adam Curry: What's this? This
Yankee Doodle pipe in the

709
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,010
background? Listen to it. It's
like some kind of patriotic Fife

710
00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:49,290
and Drum thing happening. No
idea.

711
00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:51,180
Unknown: Yes senior
Administration official tells

712
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:55,110
ABC News that President Biden
has informed the g7 allies here

713
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,560
that the United States has
agreed to allow Ukrainian pilots

714
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,820
to begin training to fly
American made F 16 fighter jets.

715
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This move represents a major
reversal for Biden and a wish

716
00:40:06,930 --> 00:40:08,700
fulfilled for Ukrainian
president.

717
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,830
First of all, I'm sorry.

718
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,190
John C Dvorak: That's bullcrap.
A major reversal is just get

719
00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:17,190
game growing into it. We know
this was going to happen.

720
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,010
Adam Curry: Well, I think they
have some clips of Biden saying

721
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:21,840
and never

722
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:26,370
Unknown: represents a major
reversal and a wish fulfilled

723
00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:30,480
for Ukrainian president who has
pleaded for F six teams for

724
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months.

725
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:38,700
We have artillery. Yes. Thank
you. We have it. Is it enough?

726
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:40,320
Honestly, not really.

727
00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:41,700
John C Dvorak: No, never

728
00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:43,950
Adam Curry: listen to the guy.
You stepped on it.

729
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:45,690
John C Dvorak: This guy

730
00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:50,370
Adam Curry: playing crowd laughs
It's a laugh line when he says

731
00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:56,220
this. This this group, this must
be a bunch of arms dealers.

732
00:40:56,220 --> 00:41:02,550
Unknown: Yes. Thank you. We have
it. Is it enough? Honestly, not

733
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:03,120
really.

734
00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:10,200
Adam Curry: The what is that? Is
this a laughing matter

735
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,730
John C Dvorak: is pushed to you
should have boosted it.

736
00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:15,540
Adam Curry: I'm just noticing
this message is this. These

737
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:18,930
people are horrible. So we're
supposed to be supposed to

738
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believe this is some existential
war, existential war for Europe

739
00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:27,750
and the West and the West in
general. And he says, Well, you

740
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:31,140
know, thank Thank you. Thanks
for that. Thanks for the tanks

741
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,300
and whatever else, you old
stuff.

742
00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:36,330
John C Dvorak: billions of
billions, billions and billions

743
00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:37,770
of dollars a gear. It wasn't

744
00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:41,280
Adam Curry: enough wasn't
enough. Not really. Ma Yeah. You

745
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,950
know why they're laughing thing?
Yeah. Because billions more it's

746
00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:44,940
going to flow.

747
00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:51,510
Unknown: We have artillery? Yes.
Yes. Thank you. We haven't, he's

748
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:53,730
written off. Honestly, not
really.

749
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:59,370
The F 16. The backbone of the US
Air Fleet can travel twice the

750
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speed of sound drop bombs on
ground targets and fire air to

751
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,330
air missiles. Ukraine believes
these planes provide a distinct

752
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,660
advantage in the skies, enabling
them to shoot down incoming

753
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:12,870
cruise missiles and fighter jets
fending off rushes punishing

754
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:13,470
aerosol.

755
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:16,080
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I
thought our patriots were doing

756
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,310
all that. The Patriot instinct.
Yeah, that's already so

757
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:20,970
successful.

758
00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:25,170
John C Dvorak: But up till now.
Wait, how is the f6 is nice. Now

759
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:27,510
we can get some some boots on
the ground for when I say the

760
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:32,850
next thing. That was the F 16 a
50 year old plane, the backbone

761
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:38,100
of our Air Force. That the F 22
I want even though there's not

762
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,130
that many of them are the F 18.
I mean, there's a lot we have a

763
00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:42,210
lot of gear.

764
00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,850
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
when you say that a 50 year old

765
00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:47,370
plane. The planes are not built
my

766
00:42:47,370 --> 00:42:50,160
John C Dvorak: understanding if
they're built to last but not

767
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,340
but numbers are still flying B
50 twos. Let's go. Yeah, I get

768
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:53,610
that. What

769
00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:56,760
Adam Curry: I'm saying is they
still build them in 2018. Yeah.

770
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,500
John C Dvorak: And they're
building newer versions. Yeah.

771
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:02,040
Yeah. But they're not going to
get the new version. I can

772
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,410
assure you they're gonna get the
50 year old ones.

773
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,290
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's like like
you and your Lexus.

774
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,130
John C Dvorak: Car exhibit. It's
not 50 years old, but

775
00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:16,410
Adam Curry: it's getting there.
How old is your Lexus? 30 years

776
00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:18,120
old. It's gotta be 30 years old.
I

777
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,640
John C Dvorak: have two Lexus's.
One of them is about 30 years

778
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,260
old. The other one is 2005. You
can do the math. But up till

779
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:28,410
Unknown: now providing F 16 has
been a red line for President

780
00:43:28,410 --> 00:43:32,280
Biden reluctant to provoke an
unpredictable escalation from

781
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,610
Adam Curry: Russia. Oh, but
let's do it. Now. Still,

782
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,370
Unknown: in a February interview
with David Biden did leave the

783
00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:39,960
door open just a crack.

784
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:42,780
We know President Solinsky
continues to say what he really

785
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,960
needs are f6 teams. Will you
send up six teams?

786
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:53,040
We're sending him What love our
season military thinks you need

787
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,260
to know our seasoned

788
00:43:55,260 --> 00:43:59,430
Adam Curry: military or seasoned
military. What? I don't

789
00:43:59,430 --> 00:44:03,300
understand this terms. This is
this is all just what it's a big

790
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,150
joke to these people. They're
all laughing their ass off

791
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:08,970
because they're gonna make
hundreds of billions of dollars

792
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:11,700
are f6 teams. Will you send up
60s

793
00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:18,450
Unknown: sending him what our
seasoned military thinks you

794
00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:21,660
need to know. You don't think he
needs F 16. Now he doesn't need

795
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:22,440
f 60s now.

796
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:23,250
Is that a never?

797
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:31,020
First of all, the idea that we
know exactly what's going to be

798
00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:35,130
needed a year two three manava.
There is no basis upon which

799
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:36,960
John C Dvorak: a year or two or
three.

800
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,850
Unknown: We know exactly what's
going to be needed a year to

801
00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:46,740
three now but there is no basis
upon which there is a rationale

802
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:50,760
according our military now to
provide F 60s But you're not

803
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,670
ruling it out. I am wrong enough
for now. For now,

804
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:57,390
but no longer the administration
now says they hope Ukrainian

805
00:44:57,390 --> 00:45:00,810
pilots can begin training in the
coming weeks. As for who will

806
00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:03,720
actually provide the Jets
tonight, that remains an open

807
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,050
question. And administration
officials saying our coalition

808
00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:10,020
of countries participating in
this effort will decide when to

809
00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:13,770
actually provide the Jets, how
many we will provide, and who

810
00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:15,150
will provide them. Maybe they

811
00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:17,610
Adam Curry: were just waiting to
train African jet fighter

812
00:45:17,610 --> 00:45:21,180
pilots. That's where everything
else seems to end up. Maybe this

813
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:23,310
is not about Ukraine at all.
Maybe they want to send these

814
00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:24,390
things down to Africa.

815
00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:28,680
John C Dvorak: Well, when he
says to you a year or two or

816
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,480
three that we mistaken, well,
they're gonna realize this place

817
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,680
like nothing we've seen in
Europe. Ah, this is a

818
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,780
rehabilitation program.

819
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,260
Adam Curry: That's what sounds
like. I don't think we're being

820
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:51,630
told the full story. You don't
know. Me? Well, there's

821
00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:54,330
John C Dvorak: another pop quiz.
Okay, pop quiz. Pop quiz was the

822
00:45:54,330 --> 00:45:56,070
nickname for the F 16

823
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,670
Adam Curry: The jalopy? No, did
I get it wrong?

824
00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:05,880
John C Dvorak: What fighting
Falken Oh, yeah, I

825
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,730
Adam Curry: guess I didn't know
that the fightings Well, anyway,

826
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,490
we got the F 35. And maybe maybe
we're just waiting for

827
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:16,230
John C Dvorak: what happened
after it. Why don't we give them

828
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:20,730
the F 35. Isn't that supposed to
be the plane to we're supposed

829
00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:23,370
to sell overseas all these
suckers? Yeah, but no

830
00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:25,710
Adam Curry: one's gonna pay for
it. This is the whole point The

831
00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:28,770
Dutch are going to going to they
were going to get rid of them

832
00:46:28,770 --> 00:46:33,630
anyway. They were clearly going
to sell them. So now the Dutch

833
00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:36,240
give him to or sell them? I
don't know. They won't be

834
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:37,920
selling. There'll be it'll be
because they're gonna go to

835
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,380
Ukraine and the Dutch have to
buy some new stuff. And those

836
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,650
will be 30 fives I would presume
or 20 twos? Maybe? I don't know.

837
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,230
John C Dvorak: No, we don't sell
it. 22 We don't sell that one.

838
00:46:46,799 --> 00:46:50,129
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Well, it's for sale somewhere.

839
00:46:50,879 --> 00:47:00,989
Yeah. To us. All right.
Meanwhile, according to Politico

840
00:47:02,429 --> 00:47:08,519
and their political they are on
the inside of the beltway. Joe

841
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:12,599
Biden is reportedly considering
freezing the conflict in Ukraine

842
00:47:12,749 --> 00:47:14,969
for the foreseeable future
instead of pushing for the

843
00:47:14,969 --> 00:47:20,339
country's victory this this
really falls right squarely into

844
00:47:20,339 --> 00:47:25,829
your theory that the Biden
administration wants to have a

845
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:29,969
way to be you know never change
a winning team in a war and keep

846
00:47:29,969 --> 00:47:33,419
getting boots on the ground and
keep everything going so that he

847
00:47:33,419 --> 00:47:35,399
doesn't get voted out for Big
Mike

848
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:40,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah as Easter
he's going to need knows the

849
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:46,980
playbook the political election
playbook

850
00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:52,590
Adam Curry: you know it to me it
feels like the just keep this is

851
00:47:52,590 --> 00:47:56,880
all to keep Biden kind of in
play for the next year because

852
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,840
we still have a year to go
before we even really get into

853
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,060
any kind of election. Noise
action action Yeah, the noises

854
00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:10,020
now but in any election action.
So this this this could be the

855
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:16,530
only reason why he's not being
run out of town. Yeah, this

856
00:48:16,530 --> 00:48:19,950
whole thing is I'm telling you
with and we never hear about

857
00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:22,740
Russian troop movements only
about vogner group the magical

858
00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:25,560
Wagner Wagner Wagner group.

859
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:27,720
John C Dvorak: We never hear
about Russian troop No,

860
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:31,080
Adam Curry: no, you don't hear
about that. Not only Wagner in

861
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,170
the

862
00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:34,470
John C Dvorak: war is it just
some remote control thing? It's

863
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:38,340
brand Wagner cruise missile over
every so often. It's a brand

864
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:40,980
brand Massive Attack going on
here.

865
00:48:41,010 --> 00:48:43,860
Adam Curry: I love how people
push back like vogner group is

866
00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:47,580
real No, no something happened
some things happened around the

867
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:51,390
world in Africa that was real
but the just a sticker that just

868
00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:55,710
put a sticker on it. Wagner
Wagner was here doesn't

869
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,980
John C Dvorak: have a load
drawing like Kilroy. World War

870
00:48:58,980 --> 00:48:59,340
Two.

871
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Adam Curry: Yes. It just

872
00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:06,570
John C Dvorak: they should have
an assigned tagger. Let's be

873
00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:11,790
modern. Yes. spray can and tag
everything. Wagner Wagner was

874
00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:14,820
Adam Curry: here a new one.
Because it all I'm for all we

875
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:19,710
know, it's our It's us. It's the
CIA or whatever we use.

876
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,620
John C Dvorak: Actually, it
could be thought of that one.

877
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:28,410
Adam Curry: Related to this is
the strengthening ties between

878
00:49:28,410 --> 00:49:32,070
Russia and by the way. I think
what we're saying is this is all

879
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:35,640
theater. And all of this is
meant to spin people up and get

880
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:41,640
you all all jacked and equality
from Democrats. Yes. And you

881
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,570
know, and and even the g7 being
held in Hiroshima is all just

882
00:49:45,570 --> 00:49:48,120
all nuclear war. We're on the
brink of nuclear war. They said

883
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,210
it over and over and over again
in the back of your mind. Yeah,

884
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:56,280
it's all all set up to spin you
up. And to get you to want to

885
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,640
keep Joe in and oh, goodness was
not anywhere else was certainly

886
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,250
not true. Ron Paul, it would be
horrible. He's lying. He's

887
00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:03,030
horrible change

888
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:04,920
John C Dvorak: horses in
midstream.

889
00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:08,790
Unknown: Tonight squeezed by
Western sanctions. Russia is

890
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:12,420
relying on its neighbor
literally next door. We are on

891
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:16,650
the Chinese border and that's
Russia. Shag just across the

892
00:50:16,650 --> 00:50:20,940
half frozen river. Here. The two
countries are so close. Russia

893
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:24,300
is just a few 100 yards away. 20

894
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Adam Curry: right there. Oh my
god.

895
00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:29,940
John C Dvorak: We're Sarah Palin
when we need her.

896
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:33,510
Unknown: I love like, Oh my God.
It's just right over

897
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:37,920
here. The two countries are so
close. Russia is just a few 100

898
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,050
yards away. Along the 2600 mile
border signs of deep China

899
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,850
Russia ties are everywhere. on
streets and buildings. It stores

900
00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:52,350
stocked with Russian goods.
Where vendors greet foreigners

901
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:55,380
in Russian there's even a
Russian style bar.

902
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,550
Adam Curry: Has anyone who's
watched this report ever been on

903
00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:02,280
a trip anywhere? Do they know
anything about the world? I

904
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,910
guess not

905
00:51:02,970 --> 00:51:06,390
John C Dvorak: right? Oh, wow.
You're right. It's the stupidest

906
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:10,290
report. I can go to a grocery
store in San Francisco and get

907
00:51:10,290 --> 00:51:13,710
greeted in Russian or Chinese
for that matter. It's both

908
00:51:13,710 --> 00:51:14,790
Chinese for sure.

909
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,390
Unknown: Where vendors greet
foreigners in Russian there's

910
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:20,040
even a Russians know are

911
00:51:20,070 --> 00:51:25,140
Adam Curry: a Russian style but
what is a Russian style by a an

912
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:29,340
AR style ar 15 style weapon what
is a Russian style bar?

913
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:31,830
John C Dvorak: Is this is a good
question. What should it be like

914
00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:36,780
to like the linen bar in at the
Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas?

915
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:43,530
Adam Curry: With hot chicks with
with furry hat and lots of vodka

916
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,410
and they say comrade a lot. Oh,

917
00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:50,730
Unknown: we're owner Tong Lu
says Chinese people can mingle

918
00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:51,480
with Russians

919
00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:55,380
Adam Curry: mingle. It's almost
like that that bar in mingle?

920
00:51:55,410 --> 00:52:01,140
Yeah. Is it Star Trek the bar we
can mingle with. With our Wars

921
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:02,820
Star Wars. The three eyed
people.

922
00:52:02,850 --> 00:52:05,910
Unknown: China's President Xi
Jinping declared a No Limits

923
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:10,080
partnership with Russia. From
that diplomatic boosts for

924
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,570
President Putin with a recent
state visit to a critical

925
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:21,570
economic trade between China and
Russia surging by 30% in the

926
00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:22,470
last year.

927
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,570
Adam Curry: This is I love the
Breathless horse report NBC and

928
00:52:27,570 --> 00:52:28,410
there's a part two

929
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,310
John C Dvorak: is Janet. My God
had they been out of town is

930
00:52:32,310 --> 00:52:32,850
Janice

931
00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:35,820
Adam Curry: Mackay Freya who is
reporting for us rather let's

932
00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:39,570
take a look at Janice Mackay
Freya for a second see. Janice

933
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,420
what is her deal? Mackay
freight? She got the she got the

934
00:52:42,420 --> 00:52:45,930
gig though. She got to go. So
that's kind of cool. Traveling.

935
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:50,340
It's a great traveling gig
hanging out in Russian bars. She

936
00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:54,930
is better. She's Scandinavian.
Check it out. Oh, correspondent

937
00:52:54,930 --> 00:52:58,440
for NBC News based in Beijing.
Give her a name again after look

938
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,780
it up. Janice Mackay Freya
previously worked at CTV as Asia

939
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:07,350
bureau chief. She was the
network's Middle East Bureau

940
00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:10,260
Chief in Jerusalem. She's got
some good gigs.

941
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:15,900
John C Dvorak: She studied she
was a CTV that's CTV Canada.

942
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:16,410
Yeah,

943
00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:22,410
Adam Curry: Canada. Her she she
studied international relations

944
00:53:22,410 --> 00:53:26,580
and French at the University of
Toronto. I'm not sure if she

945
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:29,970
spooky she might see slippery
sea but

946
00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:32,970
John C Dvorak: she's spooky
little switches if she's been in

947
00:53:32,970 --> 00:53:36,630
Beijing and then in case you've
been all over so it's that kind

948
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:37,740
of assigned. Oh, she

949
00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:41,370
Adam Curry: Oh, you need to look
at her at her picture. She's got

950
00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:46,920
that. That that does I'm just
talking as a as a producer

951
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,920
producer. She has kind of that
war worried face. You know what

952
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,110
I mean? Like, how can I explain
it?

953
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,880
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna look at
it a bit. It looks spooky.

954
00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:04,260
Adam Curry: very stern. very
stern and wrinkled. Yeah, it's

955
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:04,410
like

956
00:54:04,410 --> 00:54:06,360
John C Dvorak: stern and
wrinkled. There you go. That's

957
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,120
the description she's gonna love
here. Let's go to

958
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,930
Unknown: part two. And this is
where a huge pipeline delivers

959
00:54:12,930 --> 00:54:17,460
Russian gas to China. Energy
that used to flow to Europe, all

960
00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:21,390
of it keeping Russia's economy
afloat. funding the war in

961
00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:25,290
Ukraine. Haha damn training with
goods will come and go from

962
00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:29,730
Russia across this bridge that
was built and paid for by China.

963
00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:34,140
Russian truck drivers told us
they're crossing to China every

964
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:39,900
day. Give them as you were good
friends he says of China. Steel

965
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:43,800
relations during wartime are a
sensitive topic here. We were

966
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,270
tracked by Chinese authorities.
US officials including the US

967
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:53,820
ambassador here tell NBC News
there is no evidence so far. The

968
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:56,130
support for Russia includes
weapons.

969
00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:00,270
Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak
School of Journalism ladies Live

970
00:55:00,270 --> 00:55:01,830
It is no evidence Russia

971
00:55:01,830 --> 00:55:04,470
Unknown: needing allies like
never before want to hear that

972
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:09,300
one again. But are here tell NBC
News there is no evidence so far

973
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:12,510
that shows for Russia includes
weapons an

974
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:15,990
Adam Curry: extra twist on the
no evidence. No evidence so far.

975
00:55:16,110 --> 00:55:17,190
This is a good Yeah,

976
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:19,650
John C Dvorak: that's actually
advanced, advanced,

977
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:24,780
Unknown: Russia needing allies
like never before. And finding

978
00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:30,090
one close at hand. Janice Mackay
for NBC News. Hey, hook, China,

979
00:55:30,090 --> 00:55:32,730
hey, hey, ha.

980
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,870
Adam Curry: Jackie, you need to
go to Hey, ha, ha, ha, ha. This

981
00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:44,640
is all just so pathetic. Do they
not understand that no agenda

982
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,550
show sees right through them
that we understand what they're

983
00:55:47,550 --> 00:55:52,890
doing here. They're just trying
to make everybody crazy. Man,

984
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:57,270
for most people. You know, I see
that. Of course. I'd like to

985
00:55:57,270 --> 00:56:01,920
remind everybody, as more and
more normal people join the no

986
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,700
agenda show they join no agenda
nation. And some people are new.

987
00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:09,180
And it is important to
understand that John, I pretty

988
00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:12,180
much never speak during the
week. I mean, the extent of it

989
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:15,600
might be Hey, look at this great
story about AI and then you'll

990
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,120
like say something horrible and
I'll regret sending is a story.

991
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,450
That's

992
00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:20,400
John C Dvorak: and I loaded that
product.

993
00:56:20,670 --> 00:56:26,460
Adam Curry: Oh, you did? You'd
love I sent John a a, an article

994
00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:31,560
about using chat chat GPT type
AI on your computer and you

995
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,850
loaded the product.

996
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,010
John C Dvorak: So I loaded the
product. And then I tried to run

997
00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:38,250
it and it says hey, no, you got
to load I have to load some sort

998
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:43,080
of some back repo. I have to
load the bases the data.

999
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. You have
to download the six gigabytes of

1000
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:47,400
data of course.

1001
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:49,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, so I
so I tried doing that it says

1002
00:56:50,670 --> 00:56:54,930
incompatible hardware. And I
said what, wait a minute, but it

1003
00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:58,470
has a bunch of choices. There's
like various models, I had to

1004
00:56:58,470 --> 00:57:01,140
load load the models. That's
what it is. Had to load them as

1005
00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:04,170
I showed them. We tried the
other model incompatible

1006
00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:08,430
hardware, using a machine
running Windows 11. If you can't

1007
00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:11,760
run something on Windows 11,
which is picky about the

1008
00:57:12,210 --> 00:57:15,750
hardware compatibility is
bullcrap product, okay.

1009
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:23,880
Adam Curry: All right. Thank you
for this report. So far so far,

1010
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:27,360
AI is failing on the no agenda
show the running in at home. All

1011
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:34,080
right. Can't stop laughing.
That's great. Hold on a second.

1012
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,870
What Meanwhile, over in the UK,

1013
00:57:36,899 --> 00:57:40,979
Unknown: BT British Telecom are
going to be cutting 55,000 jobs,

1014
00:57:40,979 --> 00:57:45,719
but crucially 10,000 of them are
supposedly be going to AI. You

1015
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:48,149
can see the front of the Daily
Mail that they asked the

1016
00:57:48,149 --> 00:57:53,669
question Is this the start of
the great AI jobs bloodbath, The

1017
00:57:54,269 --> 00:57:59,189
Guardian here as well btw to
replace stuff with AI, and also

1018
00:57:59,189 --> 00:58:03,149
the Financial Times they call
it. They call it the most

1019
00:58:03,149 --> 00:58:06,329
radical cuts since privatization
since British Telecom was

1020
00:58:06,329 --> 00:58:11,099
privatized. So Bter to slash up
to 42% of the workforce by the

1021
00:58:11,099 --> 00:58:14,639
end of the decade by 2030. It
comes just a couple of days

1022
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:18,419
after Vodafone revealed that
they will be cutting 11,000 jobs

1023
00:58:18,419 --> 00:58:21,269
themselves. The decision, of
course comes to cut costs, but

1024
00:58:21,269 --> 00:58:24,599
also chief executive Philip
Johnson says that AI tools such

1025
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:27,389
as chat to GPT, they're ready.
They've shown enough progress to

1026
00:58:27,389 --> 00:58:30,389
show that they can replace
humans, especially in customer

1027
00:58:30,389 --> 00:58:34,559
service over the next six or
seven years. It comes on the

1028
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:38,279
same day. If we look at the
times, the same day that Rishi

1029
00:58:38,279 --> 00:58:42,449
Sunak spoke and said that rules
need to be in place to curb AI

1030
00:58:42,449 --> 00:58:45,059
and that Yeah, look, I might be
a great thing. But we need to be

1031
00:58:45,059 --> 00:58:50,849
wary of its progress despite it
being transformative technology.

1032
00:58:51,059 --> 00:58:55,229
If we look at AI news here, they
expand on that UK wants new

1033
00:58:55,229 --> 00:58:59,399
rules, new rules are needed to
tame AI new rules that global

1034
00:58:59,399 --> 00:59:02,609
regulations needed the pm made
the comments during a flight to

1035
00:59:02,609 --> 00:59:06,089
Japan where the g7 is, of course
taking place in Hiroshima. So

1036
00:59:06,089 --> 00:59:06,389
let's

1037
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,510
Adam Curry: analyze this just
for a second. And by the way,

1038
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,100
it's too bad. I knew the former
British Telecom CEO Gavin

1039
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:18,630
Patterson, because when when we
had pod show, we had Pato

1040
00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:23,370
London. And he was he was kind
of he was up in the in

1041
00:59:23,370 --> 00:59:26,310
management of BT, but he
eventually when the Dutch guy

1042
00:59:26,310 --> 00:59:29,580
left who was a real dick, when
that guy left then Patterson

1043
00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:33,090
became CEO, I still have his
number. I'm going to ask him

1044
00:59:33,090 --> 00:59:36,930
what if he knows what's going
on? But he left in 2018 or 2019.

1045
00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:43,740
But what I hear is that okay, so
55,000 jobs that just sounds

1046
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:46,950
like me. No, we just got to cut
back because we're bloated and

1047
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:49,380
you know, there's no more free
money hobbyists, that's what

1048
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:53,640
everyone's doing in technology,
but of those 10,000 is customer

1049
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,740
service. This I Believe, I
completely believe that chat GPT

1050
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,120
can do function just as poorly
as humans in b2b customer

1051
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,890
service. I think that's perfect.
And I'm sure that's what they're

1052
01:00:07,890 --> 01:00:10,590
doing. I'm sure that customer
service representatives

1053
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's gonna
suck as usual. Don't have to pay

1054
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:15,000
anybody.

1055
01:00:15,029 --> 01:00:17,879
Adam Curry: It won't suck any
any more. It'll just Yeah, it'll

1056
01:00:17,879 --> 01:00:19,349
suck cheaper paths suck

1057
01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:21,630
John C Dvorak: cheap. Yeah, no
suck cheaper. There's a show

1058
01:00:21,630 --> 01:00:23,310
title suck cheaper.

1059
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,970
Adam Curry: We're loaded with
show titles today. Yeah. And

1060
01:00:26,970 --> 01:00:34,860
that makes total sense. By the
way. Five seventy.ai 570 dot AI,

1061
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:38,520
A J. Donnelly, one of our
producers, he's loaded up and no

1062
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,520
agenda show stuff in there. You
can literally ask things like,

1063
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,700
what are all the give me the red
bullets. It's all

1064
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:50,340
570 157 zero.ai. And you can you
can go in there. And you can

1065
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:55,560
say, give me all the Red Book
predictions or what episode? I

1066
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,880
mean, it has a lot. Okay,

1067
01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:59,370
John C Dvorak: I'm going to try
it. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned

1068
01:00:59,370 --> 01:01:03,690
something about the bad the bad
Dutch CEO. Yeah. So we got a

1069
01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:08,970
note from someone. I'm not going
to bless the guy. But he says

1070
01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:13,260
that somewhere along the line,
and I didn't think I didn't

1071
01:01:13,260 --> 01:01:15,390
think it was serious. But then I
thought about it. I said, you

1072
01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:20,580
know, I think this might be
true. Okay, you, you knuckled by

1073
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:21,240
Munder

1074
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:23,580
Adam Curry: a knuckle under to
pressure

1075
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:28,500
John C Dvorak: from a couple of
Dutch producers who said we're

1076
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:35,250
offended by Adams. Dutch voice.
No. Bullshit. I said, Yeah.

1077
01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:39,720
Dutch voice is a work of art.
This is anybody be offended by

1078
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:39,990
this.

1079
01:01:40,170 --> 01:01:43,440
Adam Curry: This is completely
bullshit. I don't believe this.

1080
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,620
Who said this? Give me Give me
his name. I've already said I

1081
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:51,660
wouldn't. I will call it but you
have to do anything. You must.

1082
01:01:51,690 --> 01:01:56,610
You must you must repent. No, I
don't think so. Why, what why

1083
01:01:56,820 --> 01:02:01,110
the old I did. Here's what I
did. There was a Dutch producer

1084
01:02:01,110 --> 01:02:07,230
Hendrick. And he said, when you
do a German voice whenever

1085
01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:11,400
German comes up, and you do a
Nazi Schultes voice. Yeah, he

1086
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,760
says that is actually
traumatizing to many Germans.

1087
01:02:14,850 --> 01:02:18,870
They've been trying to get away
from that for decades. And so

1088
01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:21,570
mommy says, Oh, good. Just
follow us.

1089
01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:25,470
John C Dvorak: That's like a
suit. Yes. I have to assume so.

1090
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:29,160
Adam Curry: Yeah. So I stopped
doing that. But that's why

1091
01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:30,150
because that's your

1092
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,700
John C Dvorak: number of
listeners. Let's go on the

1093
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:37,920
statistical aspect of this. The
number of German listeners we

1094
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,980
have that would be offended by
that. I want to hear from them.

1095
01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:46,500
John, you have like five.org
Yeah, Josh says me John

1096
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:51,780
tavares.org. We have about five
serious producers that have been

1097
01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:55,410
sir ignited producers that are
from Germany that have helped us

1098
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:59,520
over the years, including our
friend and moon rose. I want to

1099
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,400
hear that they're offended by
you doing that crazy German

1100
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:02,730
voice.

1101
01:03:02,759 --> 01:03:05,489
Adam Curry: I didn't say I
didn't say offended. I said it's

1102
01:03:05,489 --> 01:03:09,629
triggering. Oh, traumatizing,
okay. dramatizing triggering,

1103
01:03:09,629 --> 01:03:11,789
triggering, triggering. Okay,
well

1104
01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:17,700
John C Dvorak: nine traumatizing
999 traumatizing to me and

1105
01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:20,280
triggering is pretty much the
same thing. It's just a new

1106
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,600
version of the old word.

1107
01:03:22,860 --> 01:03:26,310
Adam Curry: Well, well you know
what if they say it's absolutely

1108
01:03:26,310 --> 01:03:30,090
not true? Well, then we go down
we're gonna go straight back

1109
01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:39,030
doing it obviously. Obviously
Wait, here's my favorite one

1110
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:53,160
remember some good times people
anyway, don't know it all days

1111
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,830
of the show. I did not buckle
but you know what? We don't

1112
01:03:55,830 --> 01:03:59,400
receive it. There's no here's
what the here's the problem. The

1113
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Dutch aren't donating there's no
notes to read. That's the

1114
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,810
problem. They come in, you know,
under under Associate Executive

1115
01:04:09,810 --> 01:04:12,390
producer level until the only
sometimes.

1116
01:04:12,810 --> 01:04:16,050
John C Dvorak: Well they're
having nothing but fun with

1117
01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:19,560
these parties that they're
throwing. I know on behalf of no

1118
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,690
agenda. They are having a really
stoned over there. Like Yeah,

1119
01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:29,910
Dad day, you know, even if the
show folds, does. Party we got

1120
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:34,260
parties. We got our own mailing
list which by the way I advise I

1121
01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:38,310
know that union local lump
number one in Michigan has a

1122
01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:42,690
pretty large mailing list of
people that's a hot list so

1123
01:04:42,690 --> 01:04:45,510
heartless and so they can just
mail to each other and and let's

1124
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:47,610
get this Friday where we're
going to do it. Yeah.

1125
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,620
Adam Curry: Awesome. Let's do
some climate change. Please. I

1126
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:55,440
need some climate change in my
life because this I have a

1127
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,020
story's horrible. The stories
are only just regional

1128
01:04:58,020 --> 01:05:04,260
headlines. Netherlands while in
the Netherlands, it has leaked

1129
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:08,400
out that the Netherlands is
going to have new requirements

1130
01:05:08,430 --> 01:05:14,670
only two cows per field. So you
have a whole field which let me

1131
01:05:14,670 --> 01:05:23,850
see this size of this field zero
point 35 hectares. What is that

1132
01:05:23,850 --> 01:05:24,780
in acres?

1133
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,320
John C Dvorak: It's a budget
double it up, it's about seven

1134
01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:31,110
about three quarters of an acre.
It's not very big,

1135
01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:32,850
Adam Curry: but only two cows.

1136
01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:38,100
John C Dvorak: That's going to
kowski clear that area.

1137
01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:42,900
Adam Curry: It by the way, it's
not it's 0.8 acres. So it's

1138
01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:47,370
great to be able to have more
than two cows on the acre.

1139
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:51,600
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
many cows could read let's here

1140
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,220
we go knowledge know, how many
how many acres? Is it needed to

1141
01:05:56,460 --> 01:06:04,440
sustain one? How many cows let's
go let's go how many cows can be

1142
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,740
since this grade. They don't do
this on network TV at all. Oh,

1143
01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:12,600
many cows. How

1144
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,420
Adam Curry: many cows per acre
is acceptable? How about that?

1145
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:22,680
Okay, that okay. Well, this is
interesting. According to chat,

1146
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,790
GPT, one to two cows per acre is
acceptable.

1147
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:30,330
John C Dvorak: I got right here.
The general rule of thumb is one

1148
01:06:30,330 --> 01:06:32,070
to one one cow per acre.

1149
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,400
Adam Curry: So so this is
another spin up bull crap thing

1150
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,530
they're doing to us. We're
thinking because we're not

1151
01:06:37,530 --> 01:06:42,480
farmers. We're thinking this is
an outrage. But it's really not.

1152
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:42,660
You're

1153
01:06:42,660 --> 01:06:45,690
John C Dvorak: cramping and this
cramped. It's too many.

1154
01:06:46,890 --> 01:06:49,680
Adam Curry: The official no
agenda position now is that

1155
01:06:49,890 --> 01:06:52,320
there's too many cows per field.

1156
01:06:52,740 --> 01:06:55,920
John C Dvorak: A cow calf pair
will typically require closer to

1157
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,410
two acres and well, the cow and
a calf.

1158
01:06:58,589 --> 01:07:02,009
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
we're being spun up. I should

1159
01:07:02,009 --> 01:07:07,199
probably mention the story about
the homeless veterans being

1160
01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:12,059
displaced by migrants in New
York was an elaborate hoax. I'll

1161
01:07:12,059 --> 01:07:15,239
bet it was but we believed it we
bought it very well.

1162
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,860
John C Dvorak: That's because
it's believable. That's the

1163
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:18,330
problem with a good hoax.

1164
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,080
Adam Curry: And yeah, it was now
who did this? It's unclear who

1165
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,440
did this hoax. But to learn
about the

1166
01:07:25,470 --> 01:07:27,060
John C Dvorak: cows about the
homeless

1167
01:07:27,090 --> 01:07:30,000
Adam Curry: No, the cows the
cows is not hooking to the cows

1168
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,750
is a reverse hoax. Is that
gender jamman Too many cows it's

1169
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:36,930
still a hoax. bullcrap. We're
outraged by the wrong thing.

1170
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:43,320
That's what's so funny. Is that
we should just fold man we

1171
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,470
should fold we're getting duped
everywhere left and right

1172
01:07:46,650 --> 01:07:48,600
John C Dvorak: well that stinks
because the duping is getting

1173
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,610
better and is getting better
thank you internet

1174
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,140
Adam Curry: all right let's
let's go to claim you

1175
01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:57,300
John C Dvorak: duping to
occasionally Miss whether you

1176
01:07:57,300 --> 01:07:58,380
want to talk about climate
change. I

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01:07:58,380 --> 01:08:03,390
Adam Curry: got a horrible five
parter. Nice. I'm ready. I'm

1178
01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:03,660
ready. And

1179
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:05,610
John C Dvorak: this is going to
discuss turns the table on

1180
01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:11,970
everything this brings in a new
idea. Oh. And it's based on

1181
01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:13,110
nothing but bull crap.

1182
01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:18,930
Adam Curry: Nice. Okay, and mind
you this comes on the heels of

1183
01:08:18,930 --> 01:08:26,580
the U N? Was it the world the
world world opera world media

1184
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:30,960
rollout. One more time I'll stop
the World Meteorological opera

1185
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,290
operation. The climate justice

1186
01:08:34,290 --> 01:08:36,270
John C Dvorak: and reparation
part one now

1187
01:08:36,270 --> 01:08:38,910
Unknown: to northern California
and the threat one community of

1188
01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:42,930
color faces because of rising
sea levels. KQED climate

1189
01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:46,320
reporter as David Romero takes
us to West Oakland in the San

1190
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,830
Francisco Bay area. Those rising
sea levels make residents

1191
01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:53,220
they're vulnerable to flooding
and to toxins that have long

1192
01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:57,150
polluted surrounding areas and
residency protecting them from

1193
01:08:57,150 --> 01:09:00,960
that threat, or what's known as
climate justice is a form of

1194
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:01,890
reparations.

1195
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,180
Adam Curry: All of us
Stopstopstop so first of all,

1196
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:10,260
what is now the makeup of oak it
was when I hear Oakland here in

1197
01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:13,350
Texas, I think that's poor
blacks.

1198
01:09:15,330 --> 01:09:18,900
John C Dvorak: Couple of things.
They're talking about West

1199
01:09:18,900 --> 01:09:23,040
Oakland. I'm very familiar with
West Oakland. I've worked in

1200
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:28,470
West Oakland. There's a big BART
station in West Oakland, which

1201
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:31,200
they don't they will never say
as Bart they're talking about as

1202
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,140
some sort of transit thing
trying to screw the poor black

1203
01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:39,510
community. The West Oakland is
mostly black. I don't know what

1204
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:43,290
they mostly poor black. I think
that's East Oakland. But it's

1205
01:09:43,290 --> 01:09:46,110
mostly black living in old
Victorians, which are quite

1206
01:09:46,110 --> 01:09:50,040
lovely. By the way. Alumni even
though they're rundown and this

1207
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:53,910
place is ripe for gentrification
in other word. That's

1208
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:56,670
Adam Curry: my question. Is any
part of Oakland gentrified?

1209
01:09:57,450 --> 01:09:58,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Old Town.

1210
01:09:59,130 --> 01:09:59,730
Unknown: Okay.

1211
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,960
John C Dvorak: But Oakland is
resisted pretty well, because

1212
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:10,410
it's really not much you can do.
But this report this I can walk

1213
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:14,280
from this house to what they're
talking about. Almost. So you

1214
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,140
might take me all day, but I

1215
01:10:16,140 --> 01:10:18,420
Adam Curry: could get there. You
could be good. Are you in line

1216
01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:19,530
for some reparations?

1217
01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:23,460
John C Dvorak: It's about, I'd
say 10 miles from here. Oh, no,

1218
01:10:23,549 --> 01:10:25,469
Adam Curry: that's outside of
the reparations zone.

1219
01:10:25,949 --> 01:10:32,039
John C Dvorak: So this, this
story starts off talking about

1220
01:10:33,719 --> 01:10:38,759
rising sea levels is bullcrap.
You said it again.

1221
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,070
Adam Curry: You said you were
going to fold it. One more time

1222
01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:42,450
again. Oh, man,

1223
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:45,480
John C Dvorak: but I can't help
it because this report is from

1224
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:49,830
top to bottom, a lie. And the
rising sea levels in what?

1225
01:10:50,370 --> 01:10:54,810
There's water rising sea levels
in West Oakland. This is the

1226
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:58,950
craziest story I've ever heard,
while Oakland is it is more or

1227
01:10:58,950 --> 01:11:02,280
less inland. There's no real
docks there or anything. I mean,

1228
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:07,260
there's part of you could almost
say that the where the where the

1229
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,380
cargo containers come in. You
could call that West Oakland,

1230
01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:15,810
but it's not. It's the inner
channel. But no, this is bull,

1231
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:21,420
and they're just okay. I get
worked up just listening to this

1232
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:24,270
nonsense. Play on which is the
point of

1233
01:11:24,270 --> 01:11:26,940
Unknown: it. 1000s of people
live in West Oakland, a bridge

1234
01:11:26,940 --> 01:11:30,810
away from San Francisco, boxed
in by freeways a port in

1235
01:11:30,810 --> 01:11:34,500
numerous industries. Margaret
Gordon shows me around the

1236
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:36,630
northern edge of the
neighborhood. So where were you

1237
01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:38,010
gonna go? Okay, we

1238
01:11:38,010 --> 01:11:39,450
will go over the overpass,

1239
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:43,650
we pass charcoal gray and white
condominiums about a half mile

1240
01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:48,210
from San Francisco Bay. As he's
continued to rise, Gordon, who

1241
01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:51,240
founded the West Oakland
environmental indicators project

1242
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:54,060
foresees a looming disaster,

1243
01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:57,660
we'll be the first victims of a
sea level rise.

1244
01:11:57,870 --> 01:12:01,080
And not only from surface
flooding between these homes and

1245
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,370
the bay, our hazardous sites
like old army base contaminated

1246
01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:08,970
with petroleum and other
chemicals. That contamination

1247
01:12:08,970 --> 01:12:13,200
can move around as water on the
ground rises,

1248
01:12:13,230 --> 01:12:16,320
those toxic soils will be a
hindrance to the community.

1249
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,260
They're going to be surprises
and they're going to be real

1250
01:12:19,290 --> 01:12:19,980
health risks.

1251
01:12:20,639 --> 01:12:23,369
Adam Curry: Well, you say this,
but what about the storms of

1252
01:12:23,369 --> 01:12:24,689
1962?

1253
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,770
John C Dvorak: Oh 9062 There may
have been a flood Yeah, there

1254
01:12:28,770 --> 01:12:34,530
was now on flood the abandoned
arm Oakland Army bases there.

1255
01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:39,420
Yes. It's an army bases. Not
it's not like I will say there

1256
01:12:39,420 --> 01:12:44,310
are. And by the way, I was very
aware of all the toxic crap that

1257
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:46,350
was getting into the air because
I was working for the air

1258
01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:50,700
pollution district for nearly a
decade. Yes. And that areas, one

1259
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:54,030
of the areas that I worked in,
there's nothing that what

1260
01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:56,280
they're talking about is
bullcrap. There's nothing going

1261
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,490
on out of that army base. If it
was if you talked about the

1262
01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:03,720
Naval Air Station over in
Alameda having toxic spills.

1263
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,340
Yes. tons. The Navy's always
made a mess wherever they've

1264
01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:11,760
been. And they just leave stuff
and then they they waltz out of

1265
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:17,340
their Hunter's Point. Same
thing. Problem. Yes. East Oka

1266
01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:22,320
West Oakland, no. West Oakland
no and this idea that it was the

1267
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,070
blacks have been forced to move
there. That's nonsense to there

1268
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:30,930
was always a mixed ethnic area.
For from the get go. And you can

1269
01:13:30,930 --> 01:13:34,680
look at good people should read
the wiki page for West Oakland,

1270
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,560
California and just read the
pages got a good history there.

1271
01:13:37,650 --> 01:13:42,630
There's none of this. There's no
sea level threat. Anyway onward.

1272
01:13:42,750 --> 01:13:45,600
Unknown: Christina Hill directs
the Institute for Urban and

1273
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:50,340
Regional Development at UC
Berkeley, rising inland on top

1274
01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:52,410
of the land and underneath it,

1275
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:56,220
the sea water actually comes
under the land almost like it's

1276
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:58,770
sticking its toe under the
freshwater

1277
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:04,020
that sea water washed up where
it can mix with contamination.

1278
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:09,330
Oh, no pollution loosens. It can
release poisonous gases in and

1279
01:14:09,330 --> 01:14:11,430
around sewer and water pipes.

1280
01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:15,210
The gas can enter buildings,
workplaces, schools and homes.

1281
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,870
Oh, I think we need to rebuild
two cracks in the concrete slab

1282
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:20,400
foundation gentrify across

1283
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,450
West Oakland, there are more
than 130 active toxic sites.

1284
01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:28,260
West Oakland grew up as an
industrial powerhouse. So

1285
01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:30,660
Adam Curry: I'm going to call it
right now. I'm going to call it

1286
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:33,630
right now what's going on here?
And I think you'll get a lot

1287
01:14:33,630 --> 01:14:39,000
more of the stories about that
area. This is to run everybody

1288
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,560
out of town, tear it all down
and completely build a house.

1289
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,100
cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. The
Reparatur land

1290
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,410
John C Dvorak: this is the AC
approach to life. This

1291
01:14:49,410 --> 01:14:53,760
Adam Curry: is JC actually
Serrana Miss of Dogpatch he sent

1292
01:14:53,760 --> 01:15:00,210
me a great documentary about
Chicago and Southside. It's

1293
01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:04,920
called the area. And this is
exactly what it is. Except it's

1294
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,150
different in mo faxes onto this.
Yeah, in some cases they say,

1295
01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:12,120
oh, it's migrants are coming in,
in other cases that just let all

1296
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,690
the drugs go rampant. And then
when the areas completely bombed

1297
01:15:15,690 --> 01:15:21,270
out, exactly, or we doing a
Black Lives Matter demonstration

1298
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:25,260
burned down Minneapolis. And
then so now it's climate change.

1299
01:15:25,410 --> 01:15:28,860
That's what's called mom. Oh,
poisonous gas is gonna kill

1300
01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:32,040
everybody. We're gonna give you
some reparations for leaving,

1301
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,800
leaving. That's what's going on
here.

1302
01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:38,280
Unknown: West Oakland grew up as
an industrial powerhouse some

1303
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,540
150 years ago when the
Transcontinental Railroad ended

1304
01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:46,350
its long journey here. Over
time, shipbuilding, metal

1305
01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:50,190
foundries, auto yards, and dry
cleaners filled this corner of

1306
01:15:50,190 --> 01:15:53,730
Oakland dry clean, racist home
running policies like red.

1307
01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:57,720
Adam Curry: S very odd. Is that
a racial thing? It's like

1308
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:02,040
Chinese what I'm saying Why Why
throw into dry cleaners? I don't

1309
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:02,760
understand early

1310
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,880
John C Dvorak: dry cleaners
until I don't know, the 50s or

1311
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:11,910
60s that used to use a lot of
carbon floor chemicals instead

1312
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:15,270
of a dump in the backyard, I
guess I don't know, overtime

1313
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:17,760
evaporated by now. But that's
beside the point,

1314
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,060
Unknown: shipbuilding, metal
foundries, auto yards and dry

1315
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:24,750
cleaners filled this corner of
Oakland. It's a clue John, it's

1316
01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:28,470
a clue. Racist home lending
policies like redlining

1317
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:31,170
relegated black people to this
neighborhood.

1318
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,410
Adam Curry: Ah, they got
screwed. Oh, I get it. We're

1319
01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:37,530
going to give you some
reparations so you can leave

1320
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,650
that toxic infested area from
the knife to stay there? Yep.

1321
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,270
It's coming through the cracks
in the foundation. That's right.

1322
01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:51,210
This is great. What a fabulous
report. Can I go to the next

1323
01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:53,310
clip? I'm loving this. I'm
loving it.

1324
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:58,050
Unknown: It is a lesson in
discrimination and disregard and

1325
01:16:58,050 --> 01:17:02,370
diminishment of a population
that is helping build the city.

1326
01:17:02,610 --> 01:17:06,300
Dorothy Lazar grew up in West
Oakland she retired two years

1327
01:17:06,300 --> 01:17:09,930
ago as the managing librarian of
the Oakland History Center.

1328
01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:14,340
Lazard said the policy of
eminent domain decimated black

1329
01:17:14,340 --> 01:17:17,820
neighborhoods and business
districts, allowing governments

1330
01:17:17,820 --> 01:17:20,190
to seize land and destroy now
when

1331
01:17:20,190 --> 01:17:22,560
Adam Curry: they say decimated,
do you think just 10% what the

1332
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,490
word really means?

1333
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,070
John C Dvorak: They mean nine.
We're the only ones that do

1334
01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:26,700
that. Because

1335
01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:30,300
Unknown: ARD said the policy of
eminent domain decimated black

1336
01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:34,440
neighborhoods and abysmal crap.
Allowing governments to seize

1337
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:38,580
land and destroy homes to build
freeways and a commuter train

1338
01:17:38,580 --> 01:17:39,090
line.

1339
01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:44,100
Blaming the imminent warning is
to me kind of commensurate to

1340
01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:49,440
colonialism, you know, like
working this as our dumping

1341
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:53,730
ground. Because we've already
devalue this space.

1342
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:55,680
Lazard says racist policies

1343
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:01,920
John C Dvorak: was residents.
They put a BART station, which

1344
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:06,270
is the convenient Bay Area Rapid
Transit. The BART station in the

1345
01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:09,900
middle of West Oakland is called
the West Oakland BART station.

1346
01:18:10,530 --> 01:18:12,870
And it which is the most
convenient way for anyone in

1347
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:16,410
that area to get to San
Francisco or, or downtown

1348
01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:21,840
Oakland or beyond. It's kind of
a favor to the community, and

1349
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,130
now they're complaining.

1350
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:26,670
Adam Curry: This is a great
report.

1351
01:18:27,059 --> 01:18:30,839
Unknown: You know, it's kind of
like we can use this as our

1352
01:18:30,869 --> 01:18:35,609
dumping ground because we've
already devalue this space.

1353
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:39,420
Lazard says racist policies
exposed residents to life

1354
01:18:39,420 --> 01:18:43,350
threatening environmental
pollution without their consent.

1355
01:18:43,410 --> 01:18:47,460
Those impulses are still there.
What's this?

1356
01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:51,360
Adam Curry: Oh, those him wow.
Oh, I gotta hear that again. So

1357
01:18:51,660 --> 01:18:54,540
I just hear this again, this was
fantastic value.

1358
01:18:54,570 --> 01:18:58,260
Unknown: This space, Lazard says
racist policies exposed

1359
01:18:58,260 --> 01:19:02,370
residents to life threatening
environmental pollution without

1360
01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:03,480
their consent.

1361
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,460
Adam Curry: Okay, so there was a
bunch of racists who didn't ask

1362
01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:12,810
for their consent. I mean, what
kind of report there's racist

1363
01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:15,330
and they were racist in the head
of black people and they didn't

1364
01:19:15,330 --> 01:19:17,190
ask for their consent to be
racist.

1365
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:20,640
Unknown: Lazard says racist
policies exposed residents to

1366
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,960
life threatening environmental
pollution without their consent

1367
01:19:25,019 --> 01:19:28,019
those impulses are still there

1368
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,640
Adam Curry: those inputs

1369
01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:34,110
John C Dvorak: they put them
into an era that was

1370
01:19:34,110 --> 01:19:38,940
contaminated which is not
without telling them

1371
01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:41,940
Adam Curry: but those impulses
are still there means the racist

1372
01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:45,930
was there the racial the black,
man that's That's right. That's

1373
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,190
all you that's all you do, you
racist Californians. Wow. I

1374
01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:53,220
can't believe you're doing that.
Do they pin the pin the tail on

1375
01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:54,840
this donkey who did this?

1376
01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,010
John C Dvorak: Well, no, they
don't go that way. They go the

1377
01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:03,300
other way. We Just as they are
when the last clip Yeah, they go

1378
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:07,230
the other way and this was this
is the eye roller clip of the

1379
01:20:07,230 --> 01:20:07,650
group

1380
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,200
Unknown: Margaret Gordon sits on
a park bench in front of her

1381
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,310
apartment as semi trucks crawl
the street and a commuter train

1382
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:19,140
zips by. She tells me climate
justice must mean reparations.

1383
01:20:20,010 --> 01:20:23,730
The reparation movement is a
next level of civil rights.

1384
01:20:23,850 --> 01:20:27,480
For Gordon reparations mean more
than payment to the descendants

1385
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:31,650
of slaves. They mean actions
that restore consent to the

1386
01:20:31,650 --> 01:20:36,060
community like cleaning up toxic
sites, economic opportunities

1387
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,780
and power and planning decisions
about climate resilience.

1388
01:20:39,870 --> 01:20:43,650
We will have long standing
sustainability, I will know that

1389
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,610
that's going to be housing for
my my children, grandchildren,

1390
01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:48,810
so it'll be a job for them.

1391
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:54,750
Climate change and reparations
in terms of a response to the

1392
01:20:54,750 --> 01:20:57,300
history of racial injustice have
the same roots

1393
01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:00,600
eludes me. Taiwo is an associate
professor at Georgetown

1394
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,290
University. He's the author of
the book reconsidering

1395
01:21:04,290 --> 01:21:07,830
reparations with a chapter on
climate reparations.

1396
01:21:07,890 --> 01:21:11,280
Even if you didn't buy the
historical story about why

1397
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,390
reparations and climate crisis
there is a straightforward

1398
01:21:15,390 --> 01:21:19,740
practical story of if you want
to actually change who faces

1399
01:21:19,740 --> 01:21:23,160
what level of depth disease and
displacement, this is something

1400
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,630
that you should pay attention
to.

1401
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:28,380
He says climate justice and
reparations are the same

1402
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:29,340
project.

1403
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,580
Adam Curry: Oh, in you know, I'm
going to agree with this report

1404
01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:36,390
because I feel that the black
family Obama they need to be

1405
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:42,270
compensated because they were
forced to buy a mansion right on

1406
01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:45,960
the shore of Nantucket there and
and they were forced to do that

1407
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,470
it's totally racist. They need
reparations so that they can

1408
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:50,430
move away from their

1409
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,500
John C Dvorak: token you believe
they're trying to make this

1410
01:21:55,500 --> 01:22:00,540
association now with climate
change. Climate Justice, justice

1411
01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:04,860
and reparations all the same
comes from the same roots. Of

1412
01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:07,770
course, are they trying to do
here besides steel this property

1413
01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:10,800
like you mentioned earlier?
Yeah, that's it this is this is

1414
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,870
now completely nuts.

1415
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,350
Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta
hand I should probably go back

1416
01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:19,890
and listen to some of these
organizations who are doing this

1417
01:22:20,670 --> 01:22:24,570
and look at them and see who
they are. Because clearly,

1418
01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:27,750
there's people who really
believe in this I mean, that

1419
01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:31,980
people people have been
influenced and and SIOP from all

1420
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:34,980
directions. And so of course,
they truly believe that it's

1421
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:38,850
racist. That people who are in
these organizations trying to

1422
01:22:38,850 --> 01:22:42,570
helmet changes racist climate
change by itself is racist,

1423
01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:46,800
because it was industrial. white
nationalists and colonialist who

1424
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:47,370
did this

1425
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,930
John C Dvorak: white
supremacists.

1426
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,290
Adam Curry: Oh man, I got a
great clip from Elon on that and

1427
01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:57,360
I want to play this Alright,
here it is. This is still from

1428
01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:01,680
that never I couldn't find a
full interview with Elon the

1429
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,160
full thing. It's all chopped up
in little bits. Thanks, CNBC.

1430
01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,190
John C Dvorak: No, I need that
so I can do my normal edit.

1431
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,890
Adam Curry: So here he is. And
what's he's very slick what he's

1432
01:23:13,890 --> 01:23:21,240
doing here because he's, he's,
it's almost like he is the when

1433
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,910
you blow your nose, it's like
it's like a clown honk

1434
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:25,950
sometimes, like a comedian.

1435
01:23:26,519 --> 01:23:28,139
John C Dvorak: Like why is
always saying how can you make

1436
01:23:28,139 --> 01:23:29,969
all that noise? You're like

1437
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,380
Adam Curry: a bird flu infested
Canadian goose is flying or just

1438
01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:35,550
infesting us all.

1439
01:23:36,780 --> 01:23:38,940
John C Dvorak: Canadian goes
bird flu. Yeah.

1440
01:23:40,830 --> 01:23:44,520
Adam Curry: So what he does
here, it's what do we have a

1441
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,420
dangle off? He's a dangle up.
He's dangle opping. Because what

1442
01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:51,420
he's doing here is he's saying,
Look at me, I speak the truth.

1443
01:23:51,420 --> 01:23:54,660
I'm not afraid to speak the
truth. But at the same time, he

1444
01:23:54,660 --> 01:24:00,000
justifies the entire existence
of white nationalism. Listen to

1445
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,440
this. But I mean, when you when
you when you

1446
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:07,530
Unknown: link to somebody who's
talking about the guy who killed

1447
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,960
children in a mall, and now in
Texas, you say something like it

1448
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,230
might be a bad sign up. I'm not
quite sure what you meant, but

1449
01:24:19,770 --> 01:24:30,690
in that particular case, there
was a somehow that's not not

1450
01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:36,930
that the jury killed, but the it
was, I think, incorrectly

1451
01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:38,700
ascribed to be a white
supremacist

1452
01:24:38,730 --> 01:24:40,770
Adam Curry: action. I'm sorry,
it's even worse. It's white

1453
01:24:40,770 --> 01:24:44,130
supremacists negates white
supremacists, that is that he's

1454
01:24:44,130 --> 01:24:45,930
going to justify who killed but

1455
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:49,650
Unknown: the it was, I think
incorrectly ascribed via white

1456
01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:55,710
supremacist action. And the
evidence for that was some

1457
01:24:55,740 --> 01:24:58,830
obscure Russian website that
nobody's ever heard of that had

1458
01:24:58,830 --> 01:25:06,450
no followers. And the company
that found this is belling cat

1459
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,270
right, adored Bella cat does
psyops

1460
01:25:09,330 --> 01:25:11,250
right. I couldn't

1461
01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:13,530
Adam Curry: really even follow
exactly what it was you were

1462
01:25:13,530 --> 01:25:17,100
trying to express there are you
stupid CNBC guy? Are you truly

1463
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:18,510
that stupid? So that's

1464
01:25:18,570 --> 01:25:21,450
Unknown: why I was curious, but
I'm saying I thought this the

1465
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:26,310
ascribing it to white supremacy
was bullshit. Okay. And and that

1466
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:30,600
the information for that came
from an obscure Russian website

1467
01:25:30,690 --> 01:25:34,350
and was somehow magically found
by Bellingcat, which is a

1468
01:25:34,350 --> 01:25:36,210
company that does Psyops

1469
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:39,930
and there's no proof by the way
that he was not.

1470
01:25:40,980 --> 01:25:45,030
There's no, I wouldn't say that
there's no proof that he is. And

1471
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:46,950
that's a debate you want to get
into on Twitter.

1472
01:25:47,610 --> 01:25:50,760
Yes. Because we should not be
ascribing things to white

1473
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,610
supremacy, if they're if it's
false. Okay.

1474
01:25:54,330 --> 01:25:57,900
Adam Curry: So, at first, I kind
of thought, yeah, like, go Elon,

1475
01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:01,410
yeah, throwing Bellingcat under
the bus. Yeah, I totally agree

1476
01:26:01,410 --> 01:26:04,740
with that. But then I realized
what he's doing. He is he's,

1477
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,840
he's, in essence, saying white
supremacy is real. White

1478
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,430
supremacy is alive in America.
And you can put that that brown

1479
01:26:14,430 --> 01:26:19,320
man into white supremacy. It's
really it's a dangle up. It's

1480
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:20,910
truly subversive. It's very

1481
01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:23,640
John C Dvorak: interesting, very
come up with that thesis.

1482
01:26:24,540 --> 01:26:29,040
Adam Curry: Very evil, very
evil, but what Elon Musk is

1483
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,270
doing here. The white

1484
01:26:30,270 --> 01:26:33,210
John C Dvorak: supremacy, though
that he knows he's doing Oh,

1485
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:33,930
yes, that's

1486
01:26:33,930 --> 01:26:36,840
Adam Curry: all he does. That's
that's his whole that's his

1487
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:42,570
whole raison d'etre. I think I
think that's that is what this

1488
01:26:42,570 --> 01:26:45,810
guy does. In this case. That's
his whole Twitter thing.

1489
01:26:45,839 --> 01:26:50,009
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
he is from South Africa. There,

1490
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:53,309
you haven't been there but you
know, the Dutch that are there.

1491
01:26:53,309 --> 01:26:56,429
Yes. Yeah, they're a bunch of
white supremacist.

1492
01:26:56,490 --> 01:27:00,540
Adam Curry: The white
supremacist are Biden, Ursula,

1493
01:27:00,570 --> 01:27:05,160
queen, Ursula, Prince Charles,
these are the it has nothing to

1494
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,550
do with skin color. Those of the
true whites Supreme, the

1495
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:12,540
Supreme, that's what this is the
supreme who come from white

1496
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:16,770
Europe. And there were there
were people in that's where we

1497
01:27:16,770 --> 01:27:20,700
get the Venetian White from is
brown people in Europe who are

1498
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:23,790
still part of white supremacy
and they powdered themselves up

1499
01:27:23,790 --> 01:27:27,630
to be white, the supreme the
people who still kind of run the

1500
01:27:27,630 --> 01:27:28,260
world,

1501
01:27:28,650 --> 01:27:30,390
John C Dvorak: you know, talking
about the band

1502
01:27:31,410 --> 01:27:36,420
Adam Curry: knows average white
band you confused? I do have a

1503
01:27:36,420 --> 01:27:40,680
question for you. As as you
mentioned, you work for the for

1504
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:44,820
the air pollution, brigade, the
government, the gut, the

1505
01:27:44,820 --> 01:27:50,040
government. And you are a
chemist by trade so I can ask

1506
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,850
you a question about this rather
short report from Scandinavia,

1507
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:54,360
the federal

1508
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,970
Unknown: government is
investigating so called Forever

1509
01:27:56,970 --> 01:28:01,290
chemicals in Canada, a growing
body of evidence points to toxic

1510
01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:05,280
chemicals on our clothes making
their way into our bodies. The

1511
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,700
question is how much harm they
potentially are doing. As the

1512
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:11,610
CBC is David certain reports
Ottawa wants to regulate the

1513
01:28:11,610 --> 01:28:12,900
products linked to them.

1514
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,860
Health Canada and Environment
Canada are reviewing the science

1515
01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:21,330
behind forever chemicals per and
poly floral alkyl substances or

1516
01:28:21,330 --> 01:28:24,060
P bass, a group of chemicals
that hang around in the

1517
01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:27,570
environment for a long time,
exposure has been linked to

1518
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,310
liver damage and breast cancer.
Still, these chemicals are quite

1519
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:36,510
common in clothing, compostable
takeout containers, and many

1520
01:28:36,510 --> 01:28:39,150
other consumer items. According
to the government's latest

1521
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:42,390
Science Review, tests show pee
fast in the blood of many

1522
01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:46,950
Canadians and even more elevated
levels among people in northern

1523
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:49,890
indigenous communities. The
government wants to consult more

1524
01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:53,190
Canadians but with this
scientific review it's putting

1525
01:28:53,220 --> 01:28:56,970
industry on notice saying
intends to regulate forever

1526
01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:57,750
chemicals.

1527
01:28:58,470 --> 01:29:02,220
Adam Curry: So they're calling
this forever chemicals which I

1528
01:29:02,220 --> 01:29:09,090
love as a term. Nice it's It's
pee fast which is poly floral

1529
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,410
floral Cole

1530
01:29:10,710 --> 01:29:13,620
John C Dvorak: site away most
chemicals are forever chemicals

1531
01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:14,040
but

1532
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,310
Adam Curry: yeah, well this.
This is why I come to you hat in

1533
01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:21,210
hand asking what is what is the
deal with these poly Flora like

1534
01:29:21,210 --> 01:29:26,130
CO flora. Floral Flora Cole? How
come? I can't pronounce this?

1535
01:29:26,610 --> 01:29:28,950
John C Dvorak: That's I don't
know if you're coming to me for

1536
01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:30,870
that. I don't know why you can't
pronounce it.

1537
01:29:31,050 --> 01:29:33,990
Adam Curry: What is it and why
is it in our clothes?

1538
01:29:34,170 --> 01:29:36,900
John C Dvorak: They're bad.
Well, do you remember that?

1539
01:29:36,930 --> 01:29:41,760
About eight years ago on this
show? We talked about the we

1540
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:47,220
talked about you using old
detergents downy fabric

1541
01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:51,390
softeners. Yes. And then
everybody jumped all over so you

1542
01:29:51,390 --> 01:29:54,780
can't do that don't use these
things are going to kill you.

1543
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:58,530
Adam Curry: They wound up using
some nuts in a bath. Yeah,

1544
01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:01,860
John C Dvorak: I know I owe you
Yeah, I use the ball. So

1545
01:30:01,860 --> 01:30:04,500
Adam Curry: now it's soap nuts
in the bag and tennis balls in

1546
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:09,000
the dryer. Tennis balls, tennis
balls in the dryer. Yeah. And

1547
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,160
does the job. Guess how long
that lasted?

1548
01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:15,060
John C Dvorak: Well, well, it
was wishes you met Tina.

1549
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:17,760
Adam Curry: Well, no, she did.
She's all in on the tennis

1550
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,240
balls. We still use the tennis
balls. But I think she slips in

1551
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:25,170
a sheet or too little softener
sheet to make it smell fresh.

1552
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's the stuff that we're

1553
01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:32,460
talking about. And it's used for
the for that same reason. It's

1554
01:30:32,460 --> 01:30:35,070
like it these things, these
weird chemicals. I don't even

1555
01:30:35,070 --> 01:30:38,700
know how they develop them. But
they use into fabrics that

1556
01:30:39,150 --> 01:30:42,030
modern fabrics seem to take a
liking to him and say, Yeah, you

1557
01:30:42,030 --> 01:30:45,480
know, you put that mix that with
me, and I'm gonna be soft, I'm

1558
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,350
gonna feel a lot more expensive
than I really am anyone who's

1559
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,840
owned a cashmere sweater, and
tried to find some that says

1560
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,590
Nice. That may with some other
fabric. Sometimes you do. And

1561
01:30:58,590 --> 01:31:01,950
that's because it's been
treated. And so these guys are

1562
01:31:01,950 --> 01:31:05,310
like, Oh, well, you know, this
is not good for the body. It's

1563
01:31:05,310 --> 01:31:08,910
probably not good for your
liver. It's probably not I'm

1564
01:31:08,970 --> 01:31:13,260
probably in agreement with most
of these these assertions,

1565
01:31:13,380 --> 01:31:17,130
Adam Curry: correct. But
whenever I hear a cool marketing

1566
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:21,660
phrase, like forever chemicals,
and they're also racist, because

1567
01:31:21,690 --> 01:31:24,300
Oh, no, it hurts indigenous
people more I don't by the way I

1568
01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:27,810
that I don't get well because
because there's something behind

1569
01:31:27,810 --> 01:31:29,070
us this coolness. Why?

1570
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,560
John C Dvorak: Yes, there's
always something behind it. And

1571
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,350
it is a cool phrase. You're
right forever. Chemicals. Great.

1572
01:31:34,380 --> 01:31:36,330
Adam Curry: It's an app. It's an
app.

1573
01:31:36,420 --> 01:31:37,410
Unknown: It bet probably.

1574
01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:41,400
John C Dvorak: Oh, agenda your
ops show.

1575
01:31:44,010 --> 01:31:46,590
Adam Curry: Oh, that's Hey,
everybody. Welcome to the ops

1576
01:31:46,590 --> 01:31:54,630
Show Up Show Up Show. Andrew
Sullivan, the OG gay blogger.

1577
01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:56,280
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah.

1578
01:31:56,309 --> 01:31:58,829
Adam Curry: We're famous wrote
quite the substack.

1579
01:31:59,639 --> 01:32:01,289
John C Dvorak: Did you Did he
now? Oh, he

1580
01:32:01,290 --> 01:32:05,820
Adam Curry: did. Ki dove right
into the the the queer

1581
01:32:05,820 --> 01:32:06,810
theorists.

1582
01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:10,380
John C Dvorak: And he's Is he is
he? I guess he knows. He says.

1583
01:32:10,740 --> 01:32:13,770
Adam Curry: Of course. He's
against it. He finally what

1584
01:32:13,770 --> 01:32:17,310
we've been saying is that gay
and lesbians are under severe

1585
01:32:17,310 --> 01:32:20,280
attack. They're being erased
because they're cysts that yes,

1586
01:32:20,370 --> 01:32:25,230
they are being erased. He wrote,
I must have received from 15

1587
01:32:25,230 --> 01:32:26,070
different people.

1588
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:27,480
John C Dvorak: I didn't get it
once.

1589
01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:29,010
Adam Curry: Well, you know,

1590
01:32:29,130 --> 01:32:31,230
John C Dvorak: let's write your
date. This is your beat. This is

1591
01:32:31,469 --> 01:32:33,539
Adam Curry: just my that's my
beat everybody

1592
01:32:33,570 --> 01:32:35,070
John C Dvorak: the trans man.

1593
01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:40,530
Adam Curry: I'm gonna go on
Glenn Beck and say hey, Glenn,

1594
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:45,150
just so you know, I'm now the
trans man. I'm going Tuesday. By

1595
01:32:45,150 --> 01:32:49,500
the way it should be fun.
Although just as an aside, Tina

1596
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:52,680
was watching my previous
appearance on back and she

1597
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,360
noticed something that I forgot
to bring up but bothers me a

1598
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,730
lot. The setting for him is a
table a round table in a giant

1599
01:33:02,730 --> 01:33:05,790
studio. It really is a big
studio. It's all empty. They got

1600
01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:09,660
you know, some lights at the
very edges. effect it looks

1601
01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:12,210
great. Looks great. And he's got
the hang and microphones and

1602
01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:17,100
everything almost like I should
be you know, like, Oh, what the

1603
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:17,280
I

1604
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,020
John C Dvorak: don't like to
hang the microphones he had that

1605
01:33:19,020 --> 01:33:21,030
when he had Rodriguez or
whatever that guy's name was

1606
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:23,970
like Mike was he like slowly
twisting? It was like, oh,

1607
01:33:23,970 --> 01:33:25,170
Senator diamond. Like

1608
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,090
Adam Curry: I actually in my
first and my first appearance. I

1609
01:33:27,090 --> 01:33:31,290
actually hit it by accident with
my hand. It was weird. It was it

1610
01:33:31,290 --> 01:33:34,950
was swinging back and forth. He
has so the end there's two

1611
01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:38,910
chairs. The guest chair is lower
than his

1612
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,190
John C Dvorak: debt. This is an
old TV trick.

1613
01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:44,370
Adam Curry: I know. But I hate
it. And I want to say I can I

1614
01:33:44,370 --> 01:33:47,910
have a phonebook. Glenn, I'm
gonna ask him for that. It's not

1615
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:51,600
cool. It isn't old. And I think
he probably does that on

1616
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,170
purpose. It seems like he would
like TV guy. Yeah, really? Yeah.

1617
01:33:55,770 --> 01:33:58,170
This is the Johnny Carson.
Johnny Carson started that I

1618
01:33:58,170 --> 01:33:58,410
think

1619
01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:01,290
John C Dvorak: I think Johnny
Carson started Yeah. Yeah.

1620
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:04,770
Adam Curry: It's annoying. And
I'm six five and I'm gonna sit

1621
01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:05,910
there like a little boy

1622
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,850
John C Dvorak: like a little
boy. Yeah. At the table. You can

1623
01:34:08,850 --> 01:34:09,810
ask him a piece.

1624
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,090
Adam Curry: So Andrew Sullivan,
he the unload is a great piece

1625
01:34:15,090 --> 01:34:20,010
it's in the show notes. And he
what he says is to be homosexual

1626
01:34:20,670 --> 01:34:24,090
is in contrast is meant to be
attracted to same sex gays and

1627
01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:26,940
lesbians run the gamut of tastes
politics, backgrounds,

1628
01:34:26,940 --> 01:34:29,940
religions, some are conservative
some radical some indifferent

1629
01:34:29,940 --> 01:34:33,240
some gays are queers, but most
aren't and the queers now run

1630
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,180
what was once the gay rights
movement for a longer piercing

1631
01:34:36,180 --> 01:34:38,850
reflect on the takeover read,
somebody has some reference

1632
01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:43,170
here. But he says unlike the
gays and lesbians who definitely

1633
01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:48,720
fought a fight in the United
States, and and came out okay.

1634
01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:54,240
We don't We it's it's more legal
in America to have same sex

1635
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,780
marriage than it is in most
countries in Europe. It's more

1636
01:34:57,780 --> 01:35:01,170
accepted even the more accepted
in the net Dylan's got spit on

1637
01:35:01,170 --> 01:35:05,520
by the Moroccans if you same sex
holding hands in the street. But

1638
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,550
then he says the queers up the
ante and did something we gaze

1639
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:13,290
never did. They targeted
children. If they could get into

1640
01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:16,530
kids minds, bodies and souls
from the very beginning of their

1641
01:35:16,530 --> 01:35:20,460
lives, they could abolish the
sex binary from the ground up.

1642
01:35:21,060 --> 01:35:24,870
And so they got a pliant woke
educational establishment to

1643
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:29,340
reprogram children from the very
start telling toddlers that any

1644
01:35:29,340 --> 01:35:31,770
single one of them could be
living in the wrong body.

1645
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:36,330
Therefore, before they could
even spell kindergarteners were

1646
01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:39,390
told to pick a pronoun there by
a sex as soon as they arrived,

1647
01:35:39,540 --> 01:35:42,900
endless kitty books reiterated
the queer theory mantra about

1648
01:35:42,900 --> 01:35:45,870
gender, you can be a girl or a
boy or both, or neither or

1649
01:35:45,870 --> 01:35:49,410
something else entirely. And if
the sex the child chose did not

1650
01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:52,230
match their physical body, they
were told they could just change

1651
01:35:52,230 --> 01:35:55,140
it and change it back if they
needed to no questions asked

1652
01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:58,860
fun. If a boy said he was a girl
or vice versa. It wasn't fact

1653
01:35:58,890 --> 01:36:02,460
unethical to ask any further
questions from now on. He was a

1654
01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:05,880
girl parents a problem to
overcome. And that's just an

1655
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,870
excerpt. There's a very, very
good piece very thoughtful. And

1656
01:36:09,870 --> 01:36:15,420
I'm glad that we now see a
leader of gay America. Unlike

1657
01:36:15,420 --> 01:36:19,110
Kara Swisher who should be with
Andrew Sullivan on this in

1658
01:36:19,530 --> 01:36:22,140
John C Dvorak: 105%

1659
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,990
Adam Curry: You saved yourself
wow. I triggered 100% meme in

1660
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:29,940
you just by saying Kara Swisher

1661
01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:34,590
John C Dvorak: in I said 105
Guys Kritis correct. And it's I

1662
01:36:34,590 --> 01:36:37,050
have to read this piece. I'm
sure it's right on the money.

1663
01:36:37,050 --> 01:36:38,490
He's always been a good run.

1664
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:43,470
Adam Curry: And, and it it's
really, it's mind boggling, but

1665
01:36:43,740 --> 01:36:44,250
it's,

1666
01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:48,930
John C Dvorak: you know, it's up
to him and his his compadres to

1667
01:36:48,930 --> 01:36:51,840
do to address this problem.
There's nothing I mean, we

1668
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,020
bitched and moaned just
generally speaking, but we can't

1669
01:36:55,020 --> 01:36:59,490
really bring it home like, like,
like people in the community

1670
01:36:59,490 --> 01:37:03,570
can. And it's, it's like, it's
like Muslim radicals. I mean,

1671
01:37:03,570 --> 01:37:07,710
it's the Muslims that have to
bring them to justice, not as

1672
01:37:07,710 --> 01:37:08,310
right and

1673
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:11,730
Adam Curry: so and let's just
start by eradicating things as

1674
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:18,240
the community. LGBTQ is not the
community. It's a brand. And

1675
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:23,130
it's all about the Q and the B,
the B, even just by the mere

1676
01:37:23,130 --> 01:37:26,820
nature that B is in that lineup.
We'll get rid of the B stands

1677
01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:31,890
for bisexual by definition means
that this t and Q was is

1678
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:37,590
ridiculous in the community. So
let's play a clip. Oh, I was

1679
01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:39,870
going to have a whole thing. Oh,
I'm glad you've got something

1680
01:37:40,110 --> 01:37:40,920
please.

1681
01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:47,280
John C Dvorak: So here's a trans
non binary teacher who is tick

1682
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:56,220
tock Yeah. Tick tock. Here's a
trans non binary t shirt and I

1683
01:37:56,220 --> 01:38:00,960
can't tell if it's what this
teacher is it's a boy Amy's like

1684
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,000
pat the old character on

1685
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:05,700
Adam Curry: no yeah and so

1686
01:38:08,490 --> 01:38:12,030
John C Dvorak: he's he she ages
ever says they them he's obey

1687
01:38:12,030 --> 01:38:17,460
them or she's obey them I don't
know. But he they them is

1688
01:38:17,460 --> 01:38:21,870
concerned with how to address
and this is an issue that has

1689
01:38:21,870 --> 01:38:25,800
not been brought up on our show
or otherwise that I know of.

1690
01:38:26,850 --> 01:38:31,200
When you have a non binary
person how do you put their what

1691
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,180
is their original salutation? Is
it Mr. Is it miss? Is it misery?

1692
01:38:36,930 --> 01:38:40,890
You can't use the very good
question or mister or miss it or

1693
01:38:40,890 --> 01:38:44,850
anything because you don't I
mean that this further confuses

1694
01:38:44,850 --> 01:38:51,060
the day them he she bullcrap I
said it again. Now. He's got it.

1695
01:38:51,390 --> 01:38:56,820
He she they them has got a
solution. Kind of because it

1696
01:38:56,820 --> 01:39:00,900
came up in his her there's
classes here it is.

1697
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,210
Unknown: So I'm a trans non
binary high school teacher. And

1698
01:39:03,210 --> 01:39:05,520
since coming out a lot of people
have asked me if students don't

1699
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,730
use Mr or miss with me. What do
they put in front of my name? So

1700
01:39:08,730 --> 01:39:10,680
the answer is nothing. I don't
put anything in front of my

1701
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,050
name. And students just call me
Flint. But recently some of my

1702
01:39:13,050 --> 01:39:15,330
students stayed behind after
class to tell me that they do

1703
01:39:15,330 --> 01:39:17,070
not like this arrangement
anymore. And they presented me

1704
01:39:17,070 --> 01:39:19,560
with some alternate honorifics
for my approval. So let's go

1705
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,810
through them starting strong
with Captain I like this because

1706
01:39:21,810 --> 01:39:23,940
it sounds like I'm leading a
crew on the Enterprise instead

1707
01:39:23,940 --> 01:39:26,220
of begging students to care
about literature. Next one is

1708
01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:29,310
good to sergeant or Sarge it's
masculine commanding, but I

1709
01:39:29,310 --> 01:39:32,040
don't think I can be counted to
reliably spell it next is Lord

1710
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,690
which made me immediately
uncomfortable and been in

1711
01:39:33,690 --> 01:39:35,910
principle but I think in
practice I would be immediately

1712
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:38,070
alarmed if I heard somebody
calling their teacher Lord

1713
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:40,890
anything fourth is Coach which I
do here as a coach for roller

1714
01:39:40,890 --> 01:39:42,930
derby but the only thing I
actually coach at school is

1715
01:39:42,930 --> 01:39:45,750
Academic Decathlon which I don't
think qualifies me for this doc

1716
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:47,670
I think makes me sound like I
should be helping Snow White

1717
01:39:47,670 --> 01:39:50,010
with her house chores. So I'm
gonna pass chef I think is

1718
01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:52,800
unquestionably my favorite. I
teach English and film my day

1719
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,930
doesn't deal with food at all.
But the absurdity I think, is

1720
01:39:54,930 --> 01:39:57,150
its charm. Reminds me a lot of
those people that are upset that

1721
01:39:57,150 --> 01:40:00,120
I'm not closeted at school who
tell me to teach math and so I

1722
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,000
answer this is a Wendy's. I'm
gonna skip right past this one.

1723
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:05,160
A late entry today was, Your
Honor, I think it might put

1724
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,530
students in a defensive position
immediately. Sometimes they

1725
01:40:07,530 --> 01:40:08,940
deserve it, let me know if
you've got a favorite.

1726
01:40:11,219 --> 01:40:15,689
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is
this is exactly what happens.

1727
01:40:16,349 --> 01:40:22,229
This kind of stuff is passed
around. And everyone, just like,

1728
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:26,159
climate change does like all the
things, but let's just like the

1729
01:40:26,189 --> 01:40:29,669
Russia, Ukraine war, everybody
gets all spun up. And that is

1730
01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:33,809
the whole point. Again, the
American media model is

1731
01:40:33,839 --> 01:40:39,359
opposition, strife. The always
if you don't, I can barely even

1732
01:40:39,359 --> 01:40:44,159
watch it. Luckily, we have clip
collectors and custodians. If

1733
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,159
you watch cable news, if you
watch Fox, they're playing clips

1734
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:52,349
of the guys on the left, if you
watch, MSNBC, CNN, they're all

1735
01:40:52,349 --> 01:40:55,229
playing clips. That's all they
do all day, there's no one doing

1736
01:40:55,229 --> 01:40:58,979
any news is just a spin you up.
And it works. It works against

1737
01:40:58,979 --> 01:41:03,329
you. That's what most podcasts
are about. Which is why we're

1738
01:41:03,329 --> 01:41:07,679
never going to be really
successful. Because we're not

1739
01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:10,139
using the model of success.
We're using the model of

1740
01:41:10,169 --> 01:41:14,219
honesty, so that we can look at
ourselves in the mirror, and

1741
01:41:14,279 --> 01:41:19,649
hopefully calm people down. And
this is it's coming. A lot of

1742
01:41:19,649 --> 01:41:22,499
this is coming from big pharma
once again, because they're the

1743
01:41:22,499 --> 01:41:26,519
ones benefiting each child that
decides to transition is worth

1744
01:41:26,519 --> 01:41:32,159
$7 million over their lifetime.
At minimum point two. You have

1745
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:37,229
it down to the decimal I'm
impressed 7.2 And think about

1746
01:41:37,829 --> 01:41:42,419
the restrictions that big pharma
put on COVID. You can't even

1747
01:41:42,419 --> 01:41:48,869
talk about ivermectin that's
horse paste. You can't you if

1748
01:41:48,869 --> 01:41:52,169
you go against big farmers
wishes then you lose your

1749
01:41:52,169 --> 01:41:56,159
license, your your, your your
your scrubbed off off the world,

1750
01:41:56,159 --> 01:42:00,089
your your business will close.
You get no insurance for your

1751
01:42:00,089 --> 01:42:03,539
business. This is Big Pharma is
doing this. And when I say big

1752
01:42:03,539 --> 01:42:06,749
farm, I'm also talking about the
American Psychology Association,

1753
01:42:06,749 --> 01:42:11,549
the American Association of
Pediatrics, DC, CDC, Rachel

1754
01:42:11,549 --> 01:42:17,069
Levine is a big, big part of it.
All the preschoolers who own

1755
01:42:17,069 --> 01:42:20,759
medical device companies, it's
all about money for them. It's

1756
01:42:20,789 --> 01:42:24,539
and they don't care. And and
it's all about power. And this

1757
01:42:24,539 --> 01:42:30,479
is the worst part is the
Democrats in general, are the

1758
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,229
ones that see oh, wow, this is
perfect. We can grab these

1759
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:38,039
people, these are the people
that will will be affectionate

1760
01:42:38,039 --> 01:42:42,989
towards them. And I would say
today's Democrat is a Maoist,

1761
01:42:43,289 --> 01:42:48,839
socialist, Marxist. So no, we
could we can grab these children

1762
01:42:48,869 --> 01:42:51,299
early on someone else is
grabbing them as Big Pharma.

1763
01:42:51,299 --> 01:42:53,909
Thank you very much. That's
great. Oh, media is just helping

1764
01:42:53,909 --> 01:42:57,929
out. Parents are afraid. Parents
were afraid to speak up about

1765
01:42:57,929 --> 01:43:00,959
masking in schools, parents were
afraid to say, hey, I really

1766
01:43:00,959 --> 01:43:04,559
don't want my kid to get this
shot. I really don't want my kid

1767
01:43:04,559 --> 01:43:08,279
to get the shot without me
knowing about it. So and this,

1768
01:43:08,309 --> 01:43:12,119
this trans mouse movement
happened during COVID. That's

1769
01:43:12,119 --> 01:43:15,089
when children were left alone to
their own devices, literally,

1770
01:43:15,089 --> 01:43:19,799
their devices, beaming this crap
into them. And so you need to

1771
01:43:19,799 --> 01:43:23,429
take charge of your inputs of
yourself and your children. This

1772
01:43:23,429 --> 01:43:28,379
queer ideology, which to me as I
look at it, this it's it's

1773
01:43:28,379 --> 01:43:32,609
nothing new. It's just we have
the it's plus the internet, we

1774
01:43:33,269 --> 01:43:39,779
in the 70s. And like, we had
punk and we'd be sticking safety

1775
01:43:39,779 --> 01:43:42,419
pins through our ear lobes and
through our nose and through our

1776
01:43:42,419 --> 01:43:45,719
cheek and we had ad leather
jackets with an A on the inner

1777
01:43:45,719 --> 01:43:49,919
circle anarchists. Yeah, yeah.
And we had the Sex Pistols and

1778
01:43:49,919 --> 01:43:52,949
God Save the Queen Jade, no
human being. Now it's just been

1779
01:43:52,949 --> 01:43:57,239
turbocharged. Ben is really just
people who want to be against

1780
01:43:57,239 --> 01:44:00,329
everything, and against the
establishment. And the

1781
01:44:00,329 --> 01:44:04,589
establishment is now in charge
and is running your children

1782
01:44:04,739 --> 01:44:09,089
into the ground. And here's to
people learning to be teachers.

1783
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:10,139
How do you feel about

1784
01:44:10,170 --> 01:44:16,860
Unknown: LGBTQ pushing their
agenda on the youth? There's no

1785
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:20,430
agenda. You're you are speaking
to the LGBT.

1786
01:44:20,910 --> 01:44:24,420
Rs. It was it was great. I feel
as though I feel as though every

1787
01:44:24,420 --> 01:44:27,930
child should be gay. Yeah, I
think every single time actually

1788
01:44:27,930 --> 01:44:30,810
gay and I'm starting to be a
teacher right now. And I'm going

1789
01:44:30,810 --> 01:44:32,430
to make every child in my class.

1790
01:44:33,269 --> 01:44:35,459
Adam Curry: These people are
completely captured. They

1791
01:44:35,459 --> 01:44:41,549
completely brainwashed, and you
need to avoid them. Get them out

1792
01:44:41,549 --> 01:44:44,729
of your school, get your child
out of the school, but you also

1793
01:44:44,969 --> 01:44:49,559
have to watch check yourself.
These are still people they

1794
01:44:49,559 --> 01:44:53,039
have, they're just they have
they have been mind controlled.

1795
01:44:53,609 --> 01:44:57,299
And they're they're literally
under spells. And this is the

1796
01:44:57,299 --> 01:45:01,859
only clip that I really need to
play because it shows how the

1797
01:45:01,859 --> 01:45:06,329
spell has taken charge of
otherwise probably normal

1798
01:45:06,509 --> 01:45:11,849
adults. And I was I'm glad I
could find this in context

1799
01:45:11,849 --> 01:45:16,139
because the spin you up make you
crazy version was the only thing

1800
01:45:16,139 --> 01:45:20,339
you saw about a minute on. On
social media. I got the full

1801
01:45:20,339 --> 01:45:24,959
three minutes. This is Democrat
Senator, Senator mckaela

1802
01:45:24,959 --> 01:45:29,309
Kavanaugh of Nebraska. Now,
let's take the context of what

1803
01:45:29,309 --> 01:45:34,439
was happening here. They were
discussing a bill which, by the

1804
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:40,409
way in Nebraska, passed
narrowly, which if signed by the

1805
01:45:40,409 --> 01:45:45,719
governor will ban sex change
procedures for minors under 19.

1806
01:45:46,139 --> 01:45:47,459
As well as a blade,

1807
01:45:48,510 --> 01:45:52,800
John C Dvorak: I saw it that sex
change for minors under 18 was

1808
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,960
already nobody did it.

1809
01:45:56,010 --> 01:46:00,240
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just
not true. And with sex change,

1810
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,440
we also mean chemically altering
your the state of your body so

1811
01:46:04,440 --> 01:46:08,460
testosterone, estrogen, it's not
none of it is reversible as they

1812
01:46:08,460 --> 01:46:12,870
claim. And again, parents are
just we know parents of these

1813
01:46:12,900 --> 01:46:16,950
trans children. And we know
these people, John, you and I,

1814
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:19,380
we look at them, and we say
they've just been captured.

1815
01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:25,020
They're afraid to say no,
they're afraid to stand up.

1816
01:46:25,020 --> 01:46:25,170
They're

1817
01:46:25,170 --> 01:46:27,090
John C Dvorak: not afraid to say
No, they won't say no, they're

1818
01:46:27,090 --> 01:46:29,820
completely they're captured to
the extreme that they're

1819
01:46:29,850 --> 01:46:33,960
righteous. But there's
difference between the people

1820
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,540
that are afraid to say no, then
the people who have been

1821
01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:39,270
captured and are righteous about
it.

1822
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:43,380
Adam Curry: I still, I still
have sympathy for them, because

1823
01:46:43,380 --> 01:46:47,310
they're under some form of
spell, which is very similar.

1824
01:46:47,340 --> 01:46:51,270
And maybe just 30% of people are
lost. But it's very similar to

1825
01:46:51,390 --> 01:46:54,870
Vax versus unvaccinated. It
doesn't matter how many times

1826
01:46:54,870 --> 01:47:00,180
you show that you were lied to
about the vaccine. They never

1827
01:47:00,180 --> 01:47:05,910
accept it, they will never
accept it. And it's like, lies

1828
01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:09,450
many experiments that show that
people have herd mentality, and

1829
01:47:09,450 --> 01:47:12,390
they will just go along with it.
And but it comes from a place of

1830
01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:17,520
fear. So by the way, this, this
is not even such a crazy law, 12

1831
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:21,210
weeks of pregnancy, I mean,
filling your own, your own

1832
01:47:21,210 --> 01:47:28,260
version of what you think is, is
acceptable. And 19 is older than

1833
01:47:28,500 --> 01:47:32,610
then most states, you know, it's
18 for this type of this type of

1834
01:47:32,610 --> 01:47:38,910
work, but it includes puberty
blockers. And so the senator

1835
01:47:38,910 --> 01:47:45,120
comes up, and there were people
protesting out in the, in the

1836
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:50,700
hallway. And she starts off very
normally saying that she doesn't

1837
01:47:50,700 --> 01:47:53,340
agree with it. And this is the
piece that you didn't hear and

1838
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:58,620
certainly didn't see. And then
she just goes into into a chant

1839
01:47:58,890 --> 01:48:03,780
that I think it has been, it's a
spell she's under a spell. And

1840
01:48:03,780 --> 01:48:07,530
she is not the only one. And I
have compassion and love for

1841
01:48:07,530 --> 01:48:12,120
her. But it is very troubling to
see Senator Mikayla

1842
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:16,470
Unknown: cabina you recognize to
speak. Thank you, Mr. President.

1843
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:23,250
Trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans

1844
01:48:23,250 --> 01:48:27,480
people. That's what they're
saying out there.

1845
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,360
Adam Curry: That's what they're
saying out there. That is the

1846
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:30,900
chat.

1847
01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:34,680
Unknown: They're standing in a
circle in the attended saying

1848
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:43,470
that over and over again. Trans
people belong here. We need

1849
01:48:43,470 --> 01:48:48,360
trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong

1850
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:54,120
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people

1851
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:59,310
belong here. We need trans
people, we love trans people,

1852
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,530
trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans

1853
01:49:04,530 --> 01:49:09,300
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people, we

1854
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:13,710
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans

1855
01:49:13,710 --> 01:49:17,820
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We

1856
01:49:17,820 --> 01:49:21,810
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong

1857
01:49:21,810 --> 01:49:24,210
here. We need trans people, we

1858
01:49:24,210 --> 01:49:26,850
love trans people, trans people
belong here.

1859
01:49:26,969 --> 01:49:28,829
We need trans people, we

1860
01:49:28,830 --> 01:49:32,640
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans

1861
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,270
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We

1862
01:49:36,270 --> 01:49:39,900
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong

1863
01:49:39,900 --> 01:49:43,890
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people

1864
01:49:43,890 --> 01:49:47,670
belong here. We need trans
people. We love trans people,

1865
01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:51,930
trans people belong here. We
need trans people. We love trans

1866
01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:55,560
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people. We

1867
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,430
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans

1868
01:49:59,430 --> 01:50:03,900
people. We You love trans people
and trans people, we need trans

1869
01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:12,780
people, trans people, trans
people, trans people, trans

1870
01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:19,560
people, trans trans people,
trans people, trans people,

1871
01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:30,750
trans people, trans people,
trans people, trans, trans trans

1872
01:50:30,750 --> 01:50:40,110
people, trans people, trans
people, trans people, people

1873
01:50:40,110 --> 01:50:50,370
really love trans people trans
people, trans people, trans

1874
01:50:50,370 --> 01:51:01,050
people love trans people, you
matter, you matter. And I am for

1875
01:51:01,050 --> 01:51:07,290
you. And I will not stop. I will
not stop today. I will not stop

1876
01:51:07,290 --> 01:51:16,320
tomorrow. You are loved you
better you belong here. This

1877
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:20,940
Adam Curry: is this is a very,
very disturbed individual.

1878
01:51:22,350 --> 01:51:24,270
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of a
Hari Krishna.

1879
01:51:24,300 --> 01:51:28,860
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly.
They've heard this exactly it

1880
01:51:28,860 --> 01:51:33,510
chants and chants are very, very
powerful. And this I think is it

1881
01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:37,050
This may be done behind closed
doors, we got a very rare peek

1882
01:51:38,250 --> 01:51:43,380
at what at this is a this is a
person who's in government doing

1883
01:51:43,380 --> 01:51:48,870
this in front of her peers. This
is this is something that is way

1884
01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:54,090
beyond the pale. And, and, and
those it's fun kind of watching

1885
01:51:54,090 --> 01:51:57,060
the troll room like Stop, stop,
you know, I'm leaving, I'm

1886
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:01,020
checking out, you have to face
this. You have to face what's

1887
01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:04,470
going on. These people need to
be embraced. And like excuse me,

1888
01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:08,160
you need to calm down. Let's
have a beer. Bottle light

1889
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:16,080
perhaps some so this is this is
very, very, very sick. And

1890
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:20,190
that's and this is the internet.
It's the food people are eating.

1891
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:23,070
It's the media they're
consuming. It's the words it's

1892
01:52:23,070 --> 01:52:29,370
pronouns. This is where we have
to just stop. We have to stop.

1893
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:36,210
We do. We do? Like Good Luck.
Well, you know people are people

1894
01:52:36,210 --> 01:52:42,660
are standing up to it. Here's a
TSA agent, producer. Good

1895
01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:45,540
afternoon. I was hesitant to
reach out as I know how much you

1896
01:52:45,540 --> 01:52:50,700
love the TSA. We love you that
has nothing to do with whether

1897
01:52:50,700 --> 01:52:54,780
you're TSA or not. But you know
now transgender passengers can

1898
01:52:54,780 --> 01:53:02,430
request if they want a male or
female TSA agent and this agent

1899
01:53:02,430 --> 01:53:06,570
is saying I'm not going to do
it. I am not going to pat down

1900
01:53:06,630 --> 01:53:09,930
as a man I'm not going to pat
down a woman even if they

1901
01:53:09,930 --> 01:53:16,320
requested I'm not going to do
it. And and and the only thing

1902
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:22,530
we have Did you see Ford? Ford
now has the pride LGBT colored

1903
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:24,840
rainbow F 150.

1904
01:53:27,660 --> 01:53:29,040
John C Dvorak: Sure that's not a
hoax.

1905
01:53:29,070 --> 01:53:34,080
Adam Curry: No, no, it's not. No
they specifically that No, it's

1906
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:41,550
not a hoax. It's not a hoax. But
these companies are all a little

1907
01:53:41,550 --> 01:53:44,790
bit behind. You know that they
haven't quite figured out that

1908
01:53:44,790 --> 01:53:47,940
people are not going to take
this anymore. The mama bears are

1909
01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:51,390
out there stopping this stuff in
schools. And but to them I also

1910
01:53:51,390 --> 01:53:57,120
you got to calm down. You don't
have to go crazy. But when I

1911
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:01,800
hear this, this chanting.
Clearly these and this is the

1912
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:06,540
latest. This is the best. This
is your government Matt Lee.

1913
01:54:06,540 --> 01:54:09,420
Finally we have a Matt Lee clip
we've been missing. Matt Lee

1914
01:54:09,420 --> 01:54:13,050
from the State Department
finally saw him again. In the

1915
01:54:13,050 --> 01:54:17,910
end, there's a new state spokes
whole State Department spokes

1916
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:21,900
Hall was pretty funny by
himself. And Matt Lee has gone

1917
01:54:21,900 --> 01:54:25,260
very, very gray. It's kind of
like Wow, man, we haven't seen

1918
01:54:25,260 --> 01:54:28,530
you around and you went gray on
us. And he's old. He's getting

1919
01:54:28,530 --> 01:54:32,460
up there. And he started off the
briefing with a question

1920
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:34,920
Unknown: here. Have you gotten
any emails from any of your

1921
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,860
colleagues in Alaska? You know,
before you came out here,

1922
01:54:37,860 --> 01:54:40,590
obviously not while you've been
at the podium, but since about

1923
01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:41,370
noon or so.

1924
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:44,610
I wanted to get to your
question.

1925
01:54:45,870 --> 01:54:50,310
Have you? What's your question?
Do you have Are you able to look

1926
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:53,310
at them right now my email? I'm
not gonna pull up my email list

1927
01:54:53,310 --> 01:54:56,070
from the photo. No, you don't
need to show it to me. Yeah. I

1928
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:58,560
want to notice I want to know if
you've noticed anything

1929
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,460
different in the from the The
line where it gives the sender

1930
01:55:03,150 --> 01:55:05,640
and then that this would be a
lot better if you would just,

1931
01:55:06,060 --> 01:55:07,560
what's your question was? Well,

1932
01:55:07,620 --> 01:55:11,190
I mean, you say you haven't
noticed anything now. Okay, so

1933
01:55:11,190 --> 01:55:14,460
within the last hour and a half,
two hours, the State

1934
01:55:14,460 --> 01:55:18,540
Department's internal email
system, and I tested this, this

1935
01:55:18,540 --> 01:55:24,750
group has added pronouns to
people's, not their signature,

1936
01:55:24,930 --> 01:55:29,400
but to their former where, you
know, where it says from? Okay,

1937
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:38,730
so it will say him, his or her,
you know, dashi why this is not

1938
01:55:38,730 --> 01:55:41,580
an optional thing, this is
something that has been just

1939
01:55:41,610 --> 01:55:45,840
arbitrarily imposed. And I
understand that people could

1940
01:55:45,870 --> 01:55:49,260
have their pronouns attached if
they'd wanted them to a

1941
01:55:49,260 --> 01:55:53,010
signature before. But this is
not something that anyone has a

1942
01:55:53,010 --> 01:55:53,700
choice about.

1943
01:55:54,059 --> 01:55:56,249
Adam Curry: We have the premise
here that the State Department

1944
01:55:56,249 --> 01:56:00,209
was automatically putting
pronouns in the From field.

1945
01:56:00,209 --> 01:56:01,079
Yeah. Is it a

1946
01:56:01,170 --> 01:56:03,870
John C Dvorak: scandal because
of the glitch?

1947
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,160
Unknown: So I'm just wondering,
why and who made this decision?

1948
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:08,280
Well,

1949
01:56:08,610 --> 01:56:15,870
I have not seen this phenomenon
for myself. Just to ask you a

1950
01:56:15,870 --> 01:56:19,950
question, is it just for
internal State Department and

1951
01:56:19,950 --> 01:56:21,840
obviously as if that will be
okay.

1952
01:56:22,740 --> 01:56:28,290
I tested someone in this
building. And whereas before, it

1953
01:56:28,290 --> 01:56:30,720
did not have any of these
pronouns attached to the

1954
01:56:31,020 --> 01:56:34,590
sender's name, it now does. And
I've also been told from other

1955
01:56:34,590 --> 01:56:37,710
people, that's the many of them
or at least when you

1956
01:56:37,710 --> 01:56:39,960
send it does it doesn't have the

1957
01:56:40,140 --> 01:56:43,770
Adam Curry: show too. So anyway,
the State Department indeed,

1958
01:56:43,770 --> 01:56:48,480
there was some kind of glitch
because they were indeed or have

1959
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:52,860
been planning to add automatic
or maybe you should be able to

1960
01:56:52,860 --> 01:56:57,900
choose pronouns to the from
field, which, now this is an out

1961
01:56:57,900 --> 01:57:02,130
they use Outlook. So I'm just
going to presume this is a

1962
01:57:02,130 --> 01:57:07,680
Microsoft feature that they will
be adding. And the State

1963
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,760
Department is now offering free
therapy to any employees who

1964
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,270
feel hurt or upset by this
unfortunate glitch.

1965
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:18,690
John C Dvorak: If they were
misgendering gendered, yes.

1966
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,200
Yeah. If your name is Andy, for
example, it could be a woman.

1967
01:57:24,030 --> 01:57:29,190
But I get you get to hear her
and hurt your feelings is such

1968
01:57:29,190 --> 01:57:30,210
an extreme.

1969
01:57:30,630 --> 01:57:35,040
Adam Curry: So we need to come
up with a couple of we've done

1970
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:39,240
this in the past, we need to
help people with ways to stop

1971
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:42,930
the pronoun stuff if someone
says, oh, no, that's a he or she

1972
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,790
them or her? Azura No, it's

1973
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,690
John C Dvorak: It's butchery is
ruining the English language

1974
01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:55,800
makes it harder to write. And
it's idiotic emphasis, very

1975
01:57:55,800 --> 01:58:00,780
small, small sub 1% of the
population demandingness. And

1976
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why is such a small group
calling the shots

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Adam Curry: Well, obviously
because this is part of the

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trans Maoist system hobbyists.
So we need to have a comeback,

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which we've done in the past.
It's like when someone sends you

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an email and then there's a
pronoun in there I think that we

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have to start saying excuse me,
I cannot converse with you if

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you're doing this but that needs
to be a better comeback.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, yes. I
agree. Better come back

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Adam Curry: to that we need a
better comeback. We need to have

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something I'm looking for
something I'm looking for

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something

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John C Dvorak: maybe somebody
out there all right, something

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that is theirs. We have writers
that have no talent yet maybe

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they're on strike taking give us
a free material and they'll come

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up with this this one liner that
we're looking for because

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Adam Curry: I see this
incorporations all the time now

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and then it's virtue signaling
its political it has no business

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in business and and we have to
find a polite way to tell people

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no I'm I'm I can't I don't know

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John C Dvorak: you I get one way
I didn't know you were a

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Democrat.

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Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

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courage in the morning to you
the man who put the seat in the

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Forever chemicals. Ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to

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my friend on the other end Mr.
John C.

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John C Dvorak: Sorry, in the
morning, I was making so much

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noise I couldn't hear you in the
morning to you Adam curry also

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01:59:40,830 --> 01:59:45,660
in the morning all ships see
boots to the ground. Water

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Adam Curry: the pronoun virtue
signaling through how many? Oh

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wow, we're two hours into the
show and we still have 20 206

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01:59:58,290 --> 02:00:01,470
That's not too bad. Normally
That's good. Normally we break

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one hour in why are we breaking
two hours in?

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John C Dvorak: Well, it's very
no donation. That's

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Adam Curry: right. The less
donations the more show. It's

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amazing. We must we must be
doing something wrong. And maybe

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we're just not giving enough
value. I think I think we bring

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in the value. People say we're
bringing the value, but what

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John C Dvorak: are we maybe
they're tired of these topics

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really means possible.

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Adam Curry: No. All right, we
can go Oh, all right.

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John C Dvorak: I don't know what
other topics are we just

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deconstruct whatever news there
is.

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Adam Curry: That's pretty much
what we do. Yeah. Anyway, nice

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to see you there. Trolls. We

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John C Dvorak: got a holiday
coming up that might help even

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though it never has in the past.

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Adam Curry: Nothing ever helps.
Trolls Hello there, you're

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listening live now at troll
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presumably, you might be
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does the Live podcast where you
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the bat signal. So you can
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podcasts, you can import
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you can always continue to
follow John and myself at our

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non algo eyes. So you know, it's
just you start at the on your

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timeline and your end where
you've read something you

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already read before. You don't
hang out that long. It's no

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agenda social.com Follow Adam at
no agenda. social.com John C.

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Dvorak, no agenda social.com.
We're always there. We're always

2038
02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:47,130
looking at what's going on. And
people like to tag us in long

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02:01:47,130 --> 02:01:50,340
conversations, which is
sometimes fun. And as part of

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our value for value Initiative,
where people can help us with

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time, talent and treasure. We
definitely got some, some

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talent, the artwork, we want to
thank the artist who brought us

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the artwork for episode 1556. We
titled that uncertainty complex,

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maybe it was the title. Maybe
the title didn't bring people

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didn't motivate people to maybe
to support us. I thought, yes.

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John C Dvorak: I was going to
say when you are going to use

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this, we're going to talk about
the art we should point out that

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on the front page has been
changed to the Art Generator.

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Oh, I have not seen the change.
Paul couture has created a

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leaderboard.

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Adam Curry: Oh leaderboard top
10 past year I see it. Well.

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This is the art came from
Taunton, Neil. And it was

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something not discussed in the
show at all, which was a point

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02:02:40,409 --> 02:02:45,089
of contention. For I said we
didn't discuss this at all. And

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you said but it's a beautiful
piece. I couldn't argue with

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02:02:47,819 --> 02:02:50,549
that. That's the problem. I
could not argue with it being a

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beautiful piece. This was the
Department of plumbers dust

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busters and fixtures, which I
believe was something Matt Gates

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02:02:56,459 --> 02:02:59,669
said in one of his performances
in Congress, which is why we

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probably didn't play it was an
FBI agent. He said, Oh, they're

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just plumbers dust busters and
fixers. them they had a you

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02:03:07,049 --> 02:03:12,509
know, an FBI agent has a wrench,
a pipe wrench and a DustBuster a

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desk Buster, Buster, it was the
best piece. But

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John C Dvorak: that was that
that piece and there's also

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02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:25,920
another piece next to it nearby
by also by tantan deal of her

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trying to predict in advance
what the show is going to be

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02:03:28,890 --> 02:03:32,430
about. Yeah. Which is, which is
a bad idea.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Is she doing
this again?

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John C Dvorak: No, I'm just
saying she did did she did it

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twice. If you look at the piece
that she did go over to there is

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another piece. Similar. It's not
similar. It's not half as good.

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But it's got the dustbuster done
by her right I also done by her

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show. So she was all in on
predicting what we're going to

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talk about. And trying to
predict what we're going to talk

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02:03:55,920 --> 02:04:00,030
about is not necessarily we
don't talk about what you think

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we're going to talk about,
generally speaking well here's

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Adam Curry: a question for you
seeing the low donations. Are we

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talking about the wrong things?

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John C Dvorak: Well, I'm all in
for playing these whack job

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clips. In fact, right here in
the middle of the donation

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02:04:17,340 --> 02:04:21,540
segment. I have one oh, here we
go. All right. So this is the

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kind of clip that you know it's
not much to talk about it just

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silly this silly and the dust
busters thing was to but this is

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Linda's now they had a bunch of
Western whistleblowers Right.

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Right. Right. Who was really
interesting because the

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Democrats were excoriating them
because they were you know, even

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though the Democrats are the
ones behind the whole idea of

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02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:46,890
whistleblowers. They were big
onto the whistleblowers because

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you know all going back to the
Pentagon Papers, they were the

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02:04:49,530 --> 02:04:52,470
ones all trying to protect the
whistleblowers, but now they

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02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:57,870
hate whistleblowers. Surprise,
surprise. So these guys, so we

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have Linda Sanchez, who has
argued Probably one of the two

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02:05:01,110 --> 02:05:05,190
or three stupidest
representatives in the House or

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in the house there are trying to
burn one of these whistleblowers

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with an idiotic question. And
let's listen to Linda.

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Unknown: Mr. Allen, have you
ever use Twitter? Yes or no?

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I have utilized Twitter. Yes.
Okay.

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And is your account at Marcus at
97050645?

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That is absolutely not my
account. Okay. That's not your

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account. Well, on

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December 5 2020, to an account
under the name Marcus Allen

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retweeted a tweet that said it
is not my account. Ma'am. You

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02:05:38,610 --> 02:05:41,190
haven't let me finish the
question, sir. football player.

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You haven't let me finish the
question on this. And the time

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is mine. On December 5 2020, to
an account under the name of

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Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet
that said quote, Nancy Pelosi

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02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:59,430
stage January 6, retweet if you
agree and quote, do you agree

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02:05:59,430 --> 02:06:01,500
with that statement? Yes or no?

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That that is I don't know.
Ma'am. That's not my account at

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all.

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I have. I'm asking whether you
agree with that statement? Yes

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or not? Can

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you please rephrase this?
Rephrase. The gentlelady has

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expired staged

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02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,480
January 6. I just want him to
answer. Yeah, he'll answer I

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02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,960
just telling you, your time's
up. Do you believe that Nancy

2117
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,360
Pelosi Do you agree with the
statement that this person

2118
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tweeted that Nancy Pelosi stage
January 6? I asked her No. No.

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Thank you. I yield back.

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Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, you

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02:06:36,060 --> 02:06:39,450
know, maybe we need to play more
stuff like listen to that you

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02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,350
meet me. Oh ha let's do a tussle
Taunton. You also tried to do

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something about the Durham
report. Which it you know and

2124
02:06:46,350 --> 02:06:49,020
she put in there which didn't
quite work you know, which is f

2125
02:06:49,020 --> 02:06:55,350
being yourself magic corridor to
health. Which was was cute. But

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02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:58,020
what maybe we should be doing
this. You know, they're so

2127
02:06:58,020 --> 02:07:00,030
crazy. It was democratic. Rachel
Maddow.

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02:07:00,510 --> 02:07:02,880
Unknown: Second thing we are
keeping an eye on tonight is the

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reaction particularly the
reaction on the political right,

2130
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:05,940
man,

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02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:08,280
Adam Curry: she was totally you
know, Trump was right. He was

2132
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:09,360
exonerated right.

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02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:14,760
Unknown: To the long awaited
Durham report. Job to report

2134
02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:16,410
Adam Curry: listen to that mad
cow

2135
02:07:17,550 --> 02:07:19,980
Unknown: for long awaited what,
right but

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02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:21,720
Adam Curry: oh, like she doesn't
know what it is?

2137
02:07:22,050 --> 02:07:24,450
Unknown: Well, the reason we're
watching for the right. And

2138
02:07:24,450 --> 02:07:27,000
their reaction to this is
because the Durham report is

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02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:30,990
only really long awaited by
them. And they really, really

2140
02:07:30,990 --> 02:07:34,290
have been awaiting this report.
Boy, they have been excited

2141
02:07:34,290 --> 02:07:37,950
about this for a long time.
literally for years, former

2142
02:07:37,950 --> 02:07:41,460
President Trump and his allies
have been invoking the name John

2143
02:07:41,460 --> 02:07:43,290
Durham, or sometimes Bull

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Durham.

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02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:47,070
Adam Curry: Oh, she's gonna lie
listen to her lie, as

2146
02:07:47,070 --> 02:07:50,280
Unknown: the man who would save
them and smite all of Trump's

2147
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,070
enemies. For years they have
been heralding the great

2148
02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:56,790
revelations, John Durham would
soon reveal about Trump's

2149
02:07:56,790 --> 02:08:00,480
political opponents and the deep
state and all their evil ways.

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02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,480
Adam Curry: That's exactly
what's in the report, along with

2151
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:06,270
the fact that no agenda is the
best podcast in the universe.

2152
02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:06,960
When that

2153
02:08:06,990 --> 02:08:09,960
Unknown: didn't seem to be
happening. Trump and his allies

2154
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,480
started pounding their chests
and yelling at the clouds about

2155
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:16,470
why Durham hadn't acted yet. Why
he hadn't yet smoked all of

2156
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:19,890
Trump's enemies. Why, you know,
there were Democrats who weren't

2157
02:08:19,890 --> 02:08:21,750
yet at Guantanamo.

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02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,860
Adam Curry: And Hillary Clinton
is in Guantanamo. We all know.

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That's what people want from us,
John. This clearly what they

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want. They want us to do that
kind of material, like every

2161
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,160
other podcast out there.

2162
02:08:35,790 --> 02:08:37,140
John C Dvorak: Everybody does
that.

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02:08:37,170 --> 02:08:40,920
Adam Curry: So what I mean, and
who else can tell you how

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they're going to take the good
neighborhoods and in Oakland,

2165
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from stealing property to the
property? Oh, that's

2166
02:08:48,660 --> 02:08:52,020
John C Dvorak: not it
interesting as excoriating

2167
02:08:52,020 --> 02:08:55,950
Rachel Maddow. Exactly. There
were one once a week show or she

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always looks down like she's so
concerned about what's in the

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02:08:58,860 --> 02:09:02,370
next blonde one of the most
watching look down at you.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah, of
course. Of course. Now comics or

2171
02:09:08,070 --> 02:09:11,550
Blogger had an interesting
little thing but it was so AI we

2172
02:09:11,550 --> 02:09:12,870
couldn't we just couldn't stand
it.

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John C Dvorak: No, it was his I
liked a rabid Teddy his AI thing

2174
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developed that was a very good
job. Oh it's pretty high.

2175
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Adam Curry: Yeah for for the AI
which is good AI the credit you

2176
02:09:26,730 --> 02:09:28,050
know, that's what we should be
doing.

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John C Dvorak: He did he did
some work on that piece though.

2178
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Because he had the gives I know
the AI will give you anything

2179
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like no agenda to top and
Coronavirus at the most we had

2180
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to put that on by hand and so he
did it in such a way that it did

2181
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to have the rabbit overlay it so
he had to do that. Using a

2182
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little some trickery.

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Adam Curry: I think a lot of
people are using AI comics your

2184
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blog just really kind of flooded
the zone with some of his AI

2185
02:09:53,340 --> 02:10:00,330
stuff. Darren O'Neal the head
Pinocchio. What was the point of

2186
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:03,900
Pinocchio with the NBC logo and
BBC reports.

2187
02:10:04,500 --> 02:10:06,510
John C Dvorak: We had sorry
about them lying all the time.

2188
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But the problem I had with that
piece was that I don't believe

2189
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:14,580
that Darren licensed that
Pinocchio character and Disney's

2190
02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:18,510
really uptight about anything
use of their characters and I

2191
02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:19,380
don't want to even talk

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02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,750
Adam Curry: before you know,
though they'll leave your state

2193
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:24,840
taking all their business with
you with them.

2194
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:28,320
John C Dvorak: So the point that
is like, no, they tend to sue.

2195
02:10:28,830 --> 02:10:33,960
They did and I'm not do paying
doing anything with the Disney

2196
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:38,970
character you forget it. There's
not a good there was there was

2197
02:10:38,970 --> 02:10:42,690
good stuff to use. It's just
that I was arguing because

2198
02:10:42,690 --> 02:10:47,250
because of the prettiness and
just the professionalism of this

2199
02:10:47,250 --> 02:10:50,340
one piece, which and US made the
argument a you know, we didn't

2200
02:10:50,340 --> 02:10:51,360
even talk about that.

2201
02:10:51,690 --> 02:10:54,420
Adam Curry: Yeah, which at
which, but it was it was the

2202
02:10:54,420 --> 02:10:56,940
nicest piece amongst all the
other things.

2203
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,410
John C Dvorak: It was the nicest
to an extreme. That's if it was

2204
02:11:01,530 --> 02:11:02,640
less. That's the

2205
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:05,280
Adam Curry: problem. That's the
problem. It was not and you were

2206
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:08,970
like, Oh, we can do the AI with
the car, which is just No, no,

2207
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,370
that was just not cutting. I
actually liked the

2208
02:11:12,150 --> 02:11:14,220
John C Dvorak: we liked that AI
with the car piece. I just

2209
02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:15,660
suggested it was usable.

2210
02:11:16,260 --> 02:11:20,490
Adam Curry: I like the SIR Polka
tour the bill as the shill. But

2211
02:11:20,490 --> 02:11:23,730
of course you pointed out that
it was very unclear because the

2212
02:11:23,730 --> 02:11:27,840
Sheila was way too small for the
artwork, which is always my my

2213
02:11:27,870 --> 02:11:31,620
gripe and so I couldn't get out
from under that one. Obviously.

2214
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:34,620
John C Dvorak: I didn't get that
piece. Yeah, well, because we

2215
02:11:34,620 --> 02:11:37,380
Adam Curry: were talking about
bills and you know, I don't know

2216
02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:41,460
it had something to do with the
show at least. Maybe, maybe,

2217
02:11:41,940 --> 02:11:44,970
maybe Johnson he was not even
listened to the show. He just

2218
02:11:44,970 --> 02:11:47,610
gets up in the morning looks at
the news look past it looks at

2219
02:11:47,610 --> 02:11:50,160
Twitter, and I'll just do one of
these. See if I can get on the

2220
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:51,060
leaderboard.

2221
02:11:52,170 --> 02:11:54,660
John C Dvorak: Early in the
game, that piece would take some

2222
02:11:54,660 --> 02:11:57,270
time. The leader versus number
two

2223
02:11:57,930 --> 02:11:59,970
Adam Curry: currently now at the
top 10. Ladies gentlemen at

2224
02:12:00,150 --> 02:12:03,240
number 10 Darren O'Neal comments
for Blogger number nine Roger

2225
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,880
round eaten that he'll be off
the charts soon as he start he's

2226
02:12:06,180 --> 02:12:09,240
John C Dvorak: doing stuff from
the shelf and he's basically a

2227
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:10,650
married man with a job

2228
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:14,310
Adam Curry: same Kenny Ben comes
in at number seven. Nico Syme,

2229
02:12:14,310 --> 02:12:17,040
who's relatively new to the
chart number six, correct

2230
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:21,420
director at five Sir Paul
couture. Who is the purveyor of

2231
02:12:21,420 --> 02:12:24,120
the entire Art Generator number
four networks at number three,

2232
02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:27,540
Tom to kneel who just had her
16th When at number two and

2233
02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:31,620
number one on top of the chart
capitalist agenda with 18 wins.

2234
02:12:31,860 --> 02:12:36,480
We also now need for next week
we need to know someone went up

2235
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:39,330
or down on the chart if someone
is Oh, yeah. And the arrows we

2236
02:12:39,330 --> 02:12:42,300
need bold arrow bullets when you
know if someone enters the chart

2237
02:12:42,300 --> 02:12:45,210
with a bullet. There's a full
leaderboard as well. Oh my

2238
02:12:45,210 --> 02:12:48,540
goodness is there's like a full
leaderboard of how many artists

2239
02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:55,560
are 213 We have 213 artists well
213 Also the all time

2240
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:59,580
leaderboard, all time
leaderboard, okay. But like

2241
02:12:59,580 --> 02:13:05,670
Nick, the rat is all time winner
with 189 wins Martin J. J with

2242
02:13:05,670 --> 02:13:11,940
107. And unbelievably, the non
artists Darren O'Neill, number

2243
02:13:11,940 --> 02:13:14,700
three of all time with 99 wins.

2244
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:19,560
John C Dvorak: There was a
moment in time when Nick de Rata

2245
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:23,070
you can go look at his his page
and see this. He's got pay. He's

2246
02:13:23,070 --> 02:13:28,020
got 1020 pages of art. Nick, the
rat was submitting serious stuff

2247
02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:32,940
for about two or three years.
And it's a still there. I mean,

2248
02:13:32,940 --> 02:13:35,040
you still look at his old stuff.
And you see this that is still

2249
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:40,440
usable. Nick the rat was really
quite a phenomenon for for a

2250
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,230
while. Somebody's got to start
doing his own show got a big

2251
02:13:43,230 --> 02:13:45,090
head lost his touch. What Yeah,

2252
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:49,530
Adam Curry: exactly. Once I went
on the show, as a guest, then he

2253
02:13:49,530 --> 02:13:52,890
was he was just getting
senators, heads of state all

2254
02:13:52,890 --> 02:13:55,110
kinds of people on his show. And
you're right. And then he got me

2255
02:13:55,110 --> 02:13:57,030
on the show got me me on the
show. And then you got a big

2256
02:13:57,030 --> 02:14:01,050
head and you just quit. That's
not true. He has tried a few

2257
02:14:01,230 --> 02:14:04,320
things recently, once in a while
does something

2258
02:14:04,530 --> 02:14:05,940
John C Dvorak: lost his touch
somewhere?

2259
02:14:07,740 --> 02:14:09,660
Adam Curry: No agenda art.
generator.com is where you can

2260
02:14:09,660 --> 02:14:13,410
follow along. Or if you're using
that, that cool new podcast app

2261
02:14:13,410 --> 02:14:17,130
I told you about. You'll see
these many of these pieces that

2262
02:14:17,130 --> 02:14:21,210
we discuss, used throughout the
duration of the show, as Dred

2263
02:14:21,210 --> 02:14:26,730
Scott puts those in his chapter
art. And now I believe a couple

2264
02:14:26,730 --> 02:14:33,750
of pod verse and fountain they
have was at Android Auto and

2265
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:37,500
CarPlay. So you can actually see
the art change on your dashboard

2266
02:14:37,500 --> 02:14:41,040
while you're driving. Nice.
Yeah, it's actually it's pretty

2267
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:44,700
cool. Thank you very much
artists. We appreciate all that

2268
02:14:44,700 --> 02:14:46,800
you do. Now we're going to thank
our executive and Associate

2269
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:51,450
Executive producers for episode
1557. We kick it off with our

2270
02:14:51,450 --> 02:14:55,740
top donor and executive producer
one of two sir Scott the Jew

2271
02:14:56,010 --> 02:14:58,920
from Post Falls, Idaho who I
believe also sent in a meter

2272
02:14:58,980 --> 02:15:04,140
report in the morning name John
C and Adam J H NSI. Please

2273
02:15:04,140 --> 02:15:07,380
accept this donation generated
at the latest North Idaho sanity

2274
02:15:07,380 --> 02:15:11,160
brigade Third Thursday monthly
meetup every Oh, this is nice.

2275
02:15:11,550 --> 02:15:15,510
every attendee chipped in all
via the fistful of cash plopped

2276
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:18,450
down into the middle of the
table. They're badass up there

2277
02:15:18,450 --> 02:15:22,500
in Idaho. The following people
are first time donors and need

2278
02:15:22,500 --> 02:15:24,720
do you do things Claude The
gypsy

2279
02:15:26,460 --> 02:15:28,290
Unknown: you've been deed deuced

2280
02:15:29,550 --> 02:15:30,420
Adam Curry: and Dave

2281
02:15:32,340 --> 02:15:34,170
Unknown: you've been deed deuced

2282
02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:40,620
Adam Curry: I like that I like
it when I like it when when they

2283
02:15:40,620 --> 02:15:44,460
pitch in at the meetup that's
kind of cool. Not all meetups do

2284
02:15:44,460 --> 02:15:47,580
that but I think it's a it's a
good trend. Please play trains

2285
02:15:47,580 --> 02:15:50,640
good planes bad thank you for
your courage and stay safe. The

2286
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,340
board trains planes

2287
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:03,240
John C Dvorak: Jack Tinkler
comes in with 333 Columbus

2288
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:07,170
Georgia. And he is noticing
that's going on is that

2289
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:11,610
MailChimp changed something and
I'm not getting my my opens.

2290
02:16:11,970 --> 02:16:15,960
Watch it the normal number you
buy down by bus only about 10%

2291
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:16,800
but it's down but

2292
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:18,900
Adam Curry: now you're blaming
that on MailChimp. And not just

2293
02:16:18,900 --> 02:16:20,850
the fact that people don't read
the newsletter.

2294
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:25,920
John C Dvorak: No, I blame it on
MailChimp or maybe Google

2295
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:29,100
because Google is changing stuff
all the time but I'm still my my

2296
02:16:29,130 --> 02:16:33,420
basic got the guys guys out
there. Oh, the basic check is

2297
02:16:33,420 --> 02:16:35,880
where it comes through. They're
still checking in with a

2298
02:16:35,880 --> 02:16:40,830
positive note. So good. I'm
guessing is MailChimp Okay, all

2299
02:16:40,830 --> 02:16:44,610
right. So let's start with Jack
Tinkler here in Columbus,

2300
02:16:44,610 --> 02:16:47,760
Georgia. And we're and I will
say that because we got no 3333

2301
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:52,560
threes today we just got one
Jacques de douche me please.

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02:16:54,330 --> 02:16:56,160
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2303
02:16:57,480 --> 02:17:01,140
John C Dvorak: he was no karma
PS. John and Adam. You all my

2304
02:17:01,140 --> 02:17:05,190
best friends. Ah, this is y'all
I could you wouldn't do in

2305
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:05,820
Georgia.

2306
02:17:07,170 --> 02:17:10,980
Adam Curry: Well, we're happy to
be your best friends works. Then

2307
02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:13,770
we go straight to Associate
Executive Producers Kenny Corson

2308
02:17:13,800 --> 02:17:19,980
in North Haven, Maine $205.19.
And he says see attached note

2309
02:17:19,980 --> 02:17:22,950
which I have here. It's long, so
I won't read it all. But he does

2310
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:25,260
say in the morning, John and
Adam. Adam, congratulations on

2311
02:17:25,260 --> 02:17:28,230
your anniversary. That's right.
Tina and I celebrated on Friday,

2312
02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:34,770
four years of blissful marriage.
And on last Monday, it was eight

2313
02:17:34,770 --> 02:17:38,070
years that we've been together.
He says my wife and I happened

2314
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:43,830
to share the same date 22 years
and we've never had a fight. See

2315
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:46,380
the last three digits of the
donation This is my third

2316
02:17:46,380 --> 02:17:49,980
donation in three years, so it
seems as though I should be de

2317
02:17:49,980 --> 02:17:50,340
Deus.

2318
02:17:52,049 --> 02:17:53,909
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2319
02:17:54,390 --> 02:17:56,910
Adam Curry: speaking of deuces,
can you call out Chris

2320
02:17:56,910 --> 02:18:04,170
Hutchinson and Emerson tremble
as douchebags nice says Enjoy

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02:18:04,170 --> 02:18:07,170
the first one syrup from our
farm. Did you get the syrup? Did

2322
02:18:07,170 --> 02:18:07,680
we get all this?

2323
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:09,870
John C Dvorak: Yes, I did. I
have not tried it yet. But I

2324
02:18:09,870 --> 02:18:13,590
did. We also I want to mention
this there's another guy I wish

2325
02:18:13,590 --> 02:18:20,130
I could find this note who sent
me a couple of syrups also from

2326
02:18:20,130 --> 02:18:23,130
Pennsylvania and he sent me a
handwritten note and I can't

2327
02:18:23,130 --> 02:18:25,500
find his email so I can't get
back to him with a lawyer

2328
02:18:25,500 --> 02:18:33,000
advice. So the syrup he sent the
commercial stuff in any sense on

2329
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,270
Nicola cooking syrup which he
can't sell commercially as a

2330
02:18:36,270 --> 02:18:37,170
syrup I

2331
02:18:37,170 --> 02:18:39,300
Adam Curry: got these two Yes, I
got a syrup the cookies the

2332
02:18:39,300 --> 02:18:41,130
regular syrup and the cooking
syrup. Yes,

2333
02:18:41,459 --> 02:18:44,159
John C Dvorak: cooking syrup,
the cooking syrup if it was

2334
02:18:44,159 --> 02:18:48,059
rebranded I'm telling you this
this is a money maker. Oh real

2335
02:18:48,059 --> 02:18:51,509
is cooking stuff if it's
rebranded as maple flavored

2336
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:52,859
coffee sweetener

2337
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:55,800
Adam Curry: even though it's
real stuff

2338
02:18:57,660 --> 02:19:00,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's real
stuff but you because look you

2339
02:19:00,510 --> 02:19:04,680
know they got this it's very
intense. It's very maplelea it

2340
02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:11,370
is a giant again a cappuccino. A
cappuccino, cappuccino it is

2341
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:14,940
Adam Curry: on believable now
are you making cappuccinos at

2342
02:19:14,940 --> 02:19:15,930
the house these days?

2343
02:19:16,769 --> 02:19:18,269
John C Dvorak: I make
cappuccinos. Sure. I've been

2344
02:19:18,269 --> 02:19:21,029
making epigenesis seven days.
Now I will mention one other

2345
02:19:21,029 --> 02:19:27,359
thing. Also, I make a an iced
coffee made in the in the form

2346
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:32,969
of a chocolate egg cream. Which
anyone? Do I live in Brooklyn?

2347
02:19:32,969 --> 02:19:37,439
No. So I make an iced coffee
like I call it a coffee a cream.

2348
02:19:37,739 --> 02:19:43,919
I use the maple syrup in that
for the sweetener. Drop dead.

2349
02:19:45,510 --> 02:19:49,260
Adam Curry: I used his cooking
syrup on. This is what I do.

2350
02:19:49,530 --> 02:19:54,180
When I make salmon which I bake
in the oven. I will drizzle a

2351
02:19:54,180 --> 02:19:59,760
little bit of maple syrup on top
of the salmon and then I put

2352
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:05,130
less than lemon pepper on on top
of that, and this all baked in

2353
02:20:05,130 --> 02:20:09,810
the oven, and I really enjoyed
the cooking maple syrup. I will

2354
02:20:09,810 --> 02:20:15,240
try it in the coffee though it's
a good idea apparently he gave

2355
02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:20,160
us $3 In Canadian money and
without he says it stems from

2356
02:20:20,340 --> 02:20:23,910
the comments a while but of
course I people are mad about

2357
02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:27,000
the what I said about two and $1
Canadian bills. I don't know

2358
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:29,460
what I said. But just keep up
the good work. Can I get a New

2359
02:20:29,460 --> 02:20:34,350
York you said it was cheesy. And
well there you go. Can I get a

2360
02:20:34,350 --> 02:20:38,790
New York Times vocal fry? My son
Odin and his friend Ramy love it

2361
02:20:38,820 --> 02:20:41,910
followed by a bit of Sharpton
Oh, I didn't didn't grab any

2362
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:49,980
Sharpton for you on on our ESP
ICT Yeah, I got that.

2363
02:20:50,340 --> 02:20:54,060
Unknown: You know, obviously, I
re I read The New York Times

2364
02:20:54,060 --> 02:20:58,410
like all day long, mainly on my
iPad

2365
02:21:03,270 --> 02:21:05,340
DSP ICT and he

2366
02:21:05,340 --> 02:21:08,970
Adam Curry: is from four acre
farm in North Haven Island Maine

2367
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:09,450
Thank you

2368
02:21:11,940 --> 02:21:18,510
John C Dvorak: Eric sank my her
in Fort Gratiot there's a way

2369
02:21:18,510 --> 02:21:20,400
pronouncing I don't remember how

2370
02:21:20,580 --> 02:21:23,610
Adam Curry: Gratiot Grusha he's
almost at it right brush rash

2371
02:21:23,610 --> 02:21:27,180
hit or grass grass grass you
kind of swallow the ship but

2372
02:21:27,180 --> 02:21:27,960
it's brush it

2373
02:21:29,460 --> 02:21:33,810
John C Dvorak: in Michigan night
Mr. Eric I got a there's an

2374
02:21:33,810 --> 02:21:38,160
Osprey flying around here I
heard it you're gonna hear it is

2375
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:39,390
it a very noisy no

2376
02:21:39,390 --> 02:21:40,860
Adam Curry: I heard I heard it a
minute ago I heard a

2377
02:21:40,890 --> 02:21:42,270
breakthrough this to the nice

2378
02:21:42,270 --> 02:21:47,160
John C Dvorak: me sir Erica V
old forge consulting change of

2379
02:21:47,160 --> 02:21:53,820
career Oh, I'm sorry considering
change of career night Mr. Eric

2380
02:21:53,820 --> 02:21:58,320
of ye old forge considering
change of career. One offer in

2381
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:02,820
hand hoping to beat it. smokin
hot wife just got hotter jobs

2382
02:22:02,820 --> 02:22:07,500
karma milk goat got coded
message one mother

2383
02:22:07,500 --> 02:22:08,220
Unknown: I'd like to

2384
02:22:08,220 --> 02:22:14,430
have jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

2385
02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:23,340
Adam Curry: And we're at 200
from Lucas diamine. faced the

2386
02:22:23,340 --> 02:22:27,930
Netherlands. This is the yearly
2022 podcast fee that was still

2387
02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:31,050
pending. Yes. I hope everyone
realizes there's fee for

2388
02:22:31,050 --> 02:22:34,770
listening to this show. Also,
you should make me a Baronet. In

2389
02:22:34,770 --> 02:22:39,960
this case Baronet of the Miller
Thol Luxenberg Mueller Thol

2390
02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:43,410
Luxenberg keep up podcasting
Special thanks to the troll room

2391
02:22:43,410 --> 02:22:48,270
for correcting Adam Lucas time
from goosfest All right thank

2392
02:22:48,270 --> 02:22:48,720
you very much

2393
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:50,760
John C Dvorak: I think he's he
actually on the list I think we

2394
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:51,420
have an error

2395
02:22:51,450 --> 02:22:58,710
Adam Curry: No I believe we do
have let me see where's my I

2396
02:22:58,710 --> 02:23:03,090
remember seeing a title change?
Yes. Oh no. Then we don't have

2397
02:23:03,090 --> 02:23:06,960
him on the list. I shall add him
now while we do this. Lucas

2398
02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:14,310
timer. Okay. And he is Baronet
he's a bear net Baron Baron net

2399
02:23:15,870 --> 02:23:17,730
you can go ahead and do the next
one on where

2400
02:23:17,730 --> 02:23:20,610
John C Dvorak: we divide count
of British Columbia and Langley

2401
02:23:20,910 --> 02:23:25,170
BC just enjoying the weekend Oh
jingles no karma the vibe kind

2402
02:23:25,170 --> 02:23:28,080
of British Columbia we can give
him a double up karma happy to

2403
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:28,380
do it.

2404
02:23:30,450 --> 02:23:33,990
Unknown: You've got karma

2405
02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:42,360
Adam Curry: All right, then we
That's it. No, we have Charlotte

2406
02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:46,500
and Worcester Worcester from San
Francisco that also a note that

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was sent in which I happen to
have here as well. Charlotte

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02:23:51,180 --> 02:23:57,480
says, Those $200 It's Worcester
Worcester Worcester as a

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02:23:57,480 --> 02:24:00,810
pronunciation guide. werster
shouted worse start. John and

2410
02:24:00,810 --> 02:24:03,630
Adam time to make a donation
Your show is a national and

2411
02:24:03,630 --> 02:24:06,780
international treasure. So
here's my donation to the

2412
02:24:06,780 --> 02:24:09,930
treasure chest. Thanks for
bouncing heavy topics with

2413
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:13,380
John C Dvorak: Lucky hilarity

2414
02:24:13,380 --> 02:24:17,460
Adam Curry: jocular jocularity.
wittiness and occasional sarcasm

2415
02:24:17,490 --> 02:24:20,940
or we try not to do too much
sarcasm. much gratitude from San

2416
02:24:20,940 --> 02:24:26,580
Francisco, California. Charlotte
Wooster. All right, Charlotte

2417
02:24:26,610 --> 02:24:30,180
Wooster. It's our pleasure.
Thank you very much. And these

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02:24:30,180 --> 02:24:33,030
are executive and Associate
Executive Producers shortlist,

2419
02:24:33,450 --> 02:24:36,690
which means it'll be real easy
for you to get top billing on

2420
02:24:36,690 --> 02:24:40,830
the next show. That's usually
the way it works. If you'd like

2421
02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:47,310
to support us go here
valora.org/and A and we've got a

2422
02:24:47,400 --> 02:24:49,860
title change and we have a
couple of people joining the

2423
02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:52,350
roundtable and some meetups.
John is going to take us through

2424
02:24:52,350 --> 02:24:53,130
the 50s

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02:24:53,699 --> 02:24:57,029
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's go
for the rest of these folk. Amy

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02:24:57,029 --> 02:25:02,909
Zipkin in Greensboro, Georgia
came in with 150 fives 70 She

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02:25:02,909 --> 02:25:05,969
says mate, everybody out there
considering supporting the good

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02:25:05,969 --> 02:25:10,889
work have no agenda. Thank you.
Jason Bible in Austin, Texas

2429
02:25:10,889 --> 02:25:18,239
120 12 I Aaron Campbell in Come
on, can we Kemah Texas 100 scale

2430
02:25:18,239 --> 02:25:27,149
kilberry In Belfair sky kilberry
In Belfair Washington 100 He's

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02:25:27,149 --> 02:25:31,739
on testosterone therapy and
hasn't noticed any rage. Yeah

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02:25:31,739 --> 02:25:35,069
we'll know if your wife is doing
done right it should be Are you

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02:25:35,069 --> 02:25:35,669
a girl or

2434
02:25:35,940 --> 02:25:36,900
Adam Curry: are you a girl?

2435
02:25:38,880 --> 02:25:41,730
John C Dvorak: Are you okay with
this? Skype is a busy

2436
02:25:41,940 --> 02:25:43,080
androgynous name we

2437
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:44,310
Adam Curry: don't know I'm just
saying.

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02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:49,740
John C Dvorak: Tao let Zheng was
in in Santa Clara, California.

2439
02:25:50,130 --> 02:25:55,920
100 No jingles no karma. Lisa,
Maya Maya, in a bitter a Bitter

2440
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:58,830
Springs in Louisiana as the best
100 It's

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02:25:58,830 --> 02:25:59,970
Adam Curry: not too much. Just a
bit.

2442
02:26:00,689 --> 02:26:03,329
John C Dvorak: Just a bit of
springs. Brian Lillard and

2443
02:26:03,329 --> 02:26:08,879
prosper Texas. 8888. David Byrne
in Staten Island, New York

2444
02:26:08,909 --> 02:26:17,219
eight. Adam Frederick in orange,
Vermont. 8066. Let's see if we

2445
02:26:17,219 --> 02:26:20,459
get to who we're looking for.
There he is. Yeah, McLaughlin

2446
02:26:20,459 --> 02:26:24,809
and Lucas North Carolina. 808.
Lover of boobs. Cherylin

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02:26:24,809 --> 02:26:30,959
Phillips and Mead. Washington.
7337. Sir Vegas in Las Vegas

2448
02:26:31,319 --> 02:26:37,679
6954. A birthday donation for
himself. Coming up at J Canyon

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02:26:37,679 --> 02:26:45,089
in cab book tour. Australia
names are great Cabo tour. I'm

2450
02:26:45,089 --> 02:26:48,749
thinking 6262 And he's a
birthday shout out we got you on

2451
02:26:48,749 --> 02:26:49,259
the list also

2452
02:26:49,260 --> 02:26:52,560
Adam Curry: needs an F karma for
F cancer recovery. Karma. We'll

2453
02:26:52,560 --> 02:26:53,340
do that in a minute.

2454
02:26:54,480 --> 02:26:59,130
John C Dvorak: Robert wills in
Riverside, California. 5566. Ask

2455
02:26:59,130 --> 02:27:04,080
her if he saw Efteling in
Holland and if Disney copied

2456
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:09,000
him. No. No. No.

2457
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:10,440
Adam Curry: No cancer No.

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02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:15,390
John C Dvorak: Troy funder Buck
funderburk in Spokane,

2459
02:27:15,390 --> 02:27:20,610
Washington. 55. Sir Polly Bravo
in Greeley Colorado. 52 at Baron

2460
02:27:20,610 --> 02:27:24,660
Henry in Rancho Rancho Palos
Verdes. So did you 42 Bob Butler

2461
02:27:24,660 --> 02:27:31,470
in coming Georgia 5069 Andrew
bends in Imperial Sir Andrew in

2462
02:27:31,470 --> 02:27:35,370
Imperial Missouri 5005 And the
following people as you wrap

2463
02:27:35,370 --> 02:27:39,990
this up are $50 donors and I get
your you that their names and

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02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:42,840
the location starting with
Andrew gusik in Greensboro,

2465
02:27:42,840 --> 02:27:46,680
North Carolina Joe Oswald in
Lithia, Florida. Chris Cowan in

2466
02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:49,650
Austin, Texas, Robert case in
Mill spring North Carolina,

2467
02:27:49,860 --> 02:27:53,430
Christie Jones in demorest,
Georgia, a lot of Georgians,

2468
02:27:54,510 --> 02:27:59,430
Matt Illingworth in Montclair,
New Jersey, Molly Swift, in

2469
02:27:59,430 --> 02:28:03,360
Jefferson City, Missouri with a
birthday dandruff. Daniel laboy.

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02:28:05,070 --> 02:28:08,670
Sir Daniel in Bath Michigan,
Julian Robinson Aptos.

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02:28:08,670 --> 02:28:12,690
California, Nicholas Ruda,
which, in Harpers Ferry West

2472
02:28:12,690 --> 02:28:22,980
Virginia, anonymous, in Toronto.
He's in at a tobiko Maryland

2473
02:28:22,980 --> 02:28:27,510
Plaza and Garwood in New Jersey.
Alan being in Beaverton, Oregon

2474
02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:31,230
serve Baron Allenby, Lian
Shipley and Covington,

2475
02:28:31,230 --> 02:28:34,860
Washington and last but not
least, surgery wing and Roth and

2476
02:28:34,860 --> 02:28:39,630
Michael stadium juries in
Saugus, California Michaels God

2477
02:28:39,630 --> 02:28:40,170
knows where

2478
02:28:43,170 --> 02:28:46,350
Adam Curry: okay, then we made
just two things that we do have

2479
02:28:46,350 --> 02:28:50,760
a little bit of time so because
of the low number of donors we

2480
02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:54,720
have the F cancer recovery karma
as requested we got that for

2481
02:28:54,720 --> 02:29:07,320
you. You've got karma that was I
guess for him Jess or Jacob the

2482
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:13,680
IT and Molly Swift. She donated
$50 and requested a de douching

2483
02:29:13,680 --> 02:29:17,460
of her quote shit hot pilot
boyfriend Rob who's turning 28

2484
02:29:17,460 --> 02:29:23,010
on the 23rd which is coming up.
You've been de Deus. He

2485
02:29:23,010 --> 02:29:25,410
apparently hit her in the mouth
three years ago during COVID

2486
02:29:25,410 --> 02:29:27,540
avid listeners ever since please
give him a biscuit on his

2487
02:29:27,540 --> 02:29:31,020
birthday. Always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. And we

2488
02:29:31,020 --> 02:29:34,200
thank you all also people who
came in under $50 For reasons of

2489
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:36,870
anonymity, you know who you are.
Or maybe you're on one of those

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02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:40,290
many programs that are
sustaining donations which we

2491
02:29:40,290 --> 02:29:46,470
need today. Now more than ever
learn how here for.org/and And

2492
02:29:46,470 --> 02:29:49,290
thank you once again for
supporting the number one best

2493
02:29:49,290 --> 02:29:50,910
podcast in the universe.

2494
02:29:50,970 --> 02:29:55,350
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out. We hit people in the

2495
02:29:55,350 --> 02:30:00,120
mouth To

2496
02:30:15,719 --> 02:30:18,659
Adam Curry: the listener a sir
Jakey it Brogan wishes his dad

2497
02:30:18,659 --> 02:30:23,429
Jeff King and a happy birthday
turned 62 yesterday it's running

2498
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:26,099
it's Molly Swift. She just heard
whispers are shit hot pilot

2499
02:30:26,099 --> 02:30:30,119
boyfriend rob a happy birthday
turning 28 on the 23rd Sir Vegas

2500
02:30:30,119 --> 02:30:33,839
Ray turns 54 on the 23rd and
also celebrating on the 23rd

2501
02:30:33,839 --> 02:30:37,079
Mike Schultz, happy birthday to
all these people from the best

2502
02:30:37,079 --> 02:30:38,459
podcast in the universe

2503
02:30:47,700 --> 02:30:51,420
don't want to be induced, we've
got two title changes. We have

2504
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:55,050
barons or economic hitman
upgrades to buy cows another

2505
02:30:55,050 --> 02:30:58,140
$1,000 checkup to his account.
Thank you very much. And Lucas

2506
02:30:58,140 --> 02:31:02,130
Taya we just heard is now the
Baronet of the mirror Tao

2507
02:31:02,130 --> 02:31:05,580
Luxembourg and we thank the
Baronet welcome him to that

2508
02:31:05,580 --> 02:31:08,550
appeared status along with our
brand new Vikon thank you both

2509
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:14,130
very much. We have one only one
today on the on the roundtable.

2510
02:31:14,610 --> 02:31:19,350
Eric And he sent in a notes
greetings from Baron soon to be

2511
02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:24,570
oh that was the economic hitman.
Oh, that was his note. Well how

2512
02:31:24,570 --> 02:31:29,850
did we get to how to get Eric
sink Meyer in there? Hmm.

2513
02:31:30,270 --> 02:31:31,980
Interesting. So we already he

2514
02:31:31,980 --> 02:31:35,790
John C Dvorak: came in with a
bunch of like $4 over a period

2515
02:31:35,790 --> 02:31:36,630
or something he's

2516
02:31:37,050 --> 02:31:39,780
Adam Curry: I don't have a note
on how he got it. I think there

2517
02:31:39,780 --> 02:31:42,510
is a note but it doesn't matter
because I've got a sword for

2518
02:31:42,510 --> 02:31:43,980
him. Do you have a sword for
him?

2519
02:31:44,250 --> 02:31:46,710
John C Dvorak: Course I got the
good one. That's nice after

2520
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:47,520
you're complaining

2521
02:31:48,900 --> 02:31:51,630
Adam Curry: look out for that
good blade Eric sank Meyer hop

2522
02:31:51,630 --> 02:31:54,450
up on the podium here You my
friend are about to become a

2523
02:31:54,450 --> 02:31:56,460
knight of the no agenda
roundtable thanks for your

2524
02:31:56,460 --> 02:31:59,250
contribution the amount of
$1,000 or more. Doesn't matter

2525
02:31:59,250 --> 02:32:03,030
how long it takes or how you get
there. We welcome you and I am

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02:32:03,030 --> 02:32:07,170
very proud to pronounce the king
D as Sir Eric of ye old Forge.

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Yes for you. We've got hookers
and blow rent boys and

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Chardonnay. We got lots of
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you diet soda and video games
fish pie and fellatio harlots

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and how doll redheads and Rhys
organic macaroni and

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plasticizers beer and blondes we
got Brazilian hotties and

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Kashia. We got cowgirls and
coffin varnish. We've got ginger

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ale and durable sparkling cider
and escorts but of course you

2534
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:32,820
are always here for the mutton
and for the mead and you can

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02:32:32,970 --> 02:32:36,870
enjoy that while you surf over
to no agenda rings.com Anybody

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02:32:36,870 --> 02:32:38,490
can take a look at those rings
to see what they are. They're

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beautiful for nights and for
dams. And they include some wax

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02:32:42,450 --> 02:32:45,270
to seal your importance
correspondence with and of

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02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:47,910
course a certificate of
authenticity and we thank you

2540
02:32:48,060 --> 02:32:51,330
very much for supporting the no
agenda show. No one

2541
02:32:58,350 --> 02:33:02,340
no agenda. They take place
everywhere around the world. A

2542
02:33:02,340 --> 02:33:06,030
lot of the big ones seem to be
in Indiana or the Netherlands is

2543
02:33:06,030 --> 02:33:11,160
just saying. Now there was a an
inaugural Huntsville Alabama

2544
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:14,910
meet up Tom Thomas Gallucci
shepherded that he says it was a

2545
02:33:14,910 --> 02:33:18,600
smashing success. 100% of the
folks who RSVP attended, there

2546
02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:23,340
were four of them and all Dave
certificate Boomer Bob and

2547
02:33:23,340 --> 02:33:26,490
himself Professor Tom many
stories were swapped over adult

2548
02:33:26,490 --> 02:33:30,390
beverages and he wants to remind
everybody that you too can even

2549
02:33:30,390 --> 02:33:32,520
if you're not a knight or Dame
you can get your no agenda

2550
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:35,790
sealing wax, which is wax for
your ceiling at no agenda

2551
02:33:35,790 --> 02:33:38,910
sealing wax.com And he was
wearing his T shirt during the

2552
02:33:38,910 --> 02:33:42,570
meetup we had a couple others
East Bay meetup took place you

2553
02:33:42,570 --> 02:33:44,100
should have been at the East Bay
meet up

2554
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:46,860
John C Dvorak: you know I was
thinking about it last show and

2555
02:33:46,860 --> 02:33:48,330
then I forgot all about it.

2556
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:51,270
Adam Curry: Oh man, I'm gonna
have to have a system because

2557
02:33:51,870 --> 02:33:55,260
the chicks dig you man. Live
from the divided and conquered

2558
02:33:55,260 --> 02:33:56,850
East Bay meet up this is lavish,

2559
02:33:57,000 --> 02:34:00,150
Unknown: deep in the bowels of
FEMA Region nine it's the Cali

2560
02:34:00,150 --> 02:34:02,460
flat smacker spaces fake.

2561
02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:05,340
John C Dvorak: This is sort of
WD 40 making it all the way

2562
02:34:05,340 --> 02:34:06,870
across the Bay Bridge to be
here.

2563
02:34:07,020 --> 02:34:10,050
Unknown: This is just one one of
the Jains is not a night yet in

2564
02:34:10,050 --> 02:34:10,680
the morning.

2565
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:14,700
This is James from Alameda.
There's no real conflict

2566
02:34:14,820 --> 02:34:18,750
Adam Curry: in the morning. And
in the Netherlands in Leiden,

2567
02:34:18,750 --> 02:34:21,930
it's where all the students hang
out they were studious all right

2568
02:34:21,930 --> 02:34:23,130
and stoned.

2569
02:34:25,980 --> 02:34:26,760
John C Dvorak: From Life

2570
02:34:27,630 --> 02:34:30,960
Unknown: here is the group he is
one of the organizers finisher

2571
02:34:30,960 --> 02:34:33,960
row bear in Rob in the morning

2572
02:34:34,170 --> 02:34:40,230
douche bag sure doors from the
your Eclipse cycle room

2573
02:34:40,860 --> 02:34:45,630
somewhere surrounded by serves
in a barrel at just about in the

2574
02:34:45,630 --> 02:34:47,460
morning. I'll do the ROTC
greetings.

2575
02:34:47,820 --> 02:34:52,350
Sebastian in the morning. In the
morning in the morning, Ruth in

2576
02:34:52,350 --> 02:34:56,610
the morning the Chinese lady of
the Lithuanian butt plug in the

2577
02:34:56,610 --> 02:34:58,860
morning. Finger here.

2578
02:34:59,190 --> 02:35:00,810
This is our group Good morning

2579
02:35:02,639 --> 02:35:04,709
Adam Curry: they were very
relaxed North Idaho sanity

2580
02:35:04,709 --> 02:35:07,049
brigade also had their meet up
sent in the final report for

2581
02:35:07,049 --> 02:35:07,889
today once again

2582
02:35:07,890 --> 02:35:11,340
Unknown: at the Selkirk Abbey in
Post Falls Idaho it's sir Scott

2583
02:35:11,340 --> 02:35:14,820
the Jew and it's not that the
CIA landed this meeting is that

2584
02:35:14,820 --> 02:35:16,620
they couldn't prevent it from
happening.

2585
02:35:16,650 --> 02:35:19,830
morning y'all. It's Tucker from
Edmonton, Alberta. The Earth may

2586
02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:22,170
be flat after all the earth is
flat

2587
02:35:22,170 --> 02:35:26,970
sir le fine. I've had a great
time here and Idaho and now I'm

2588
02:35:26,970 --> 02:35:30,480
heading to Texas. So look out
Adam, I'm coming for you. Yes,

2589
02:35:30,480 --> 02:35:31,320
sir. Devo

2590
02:35:31,320 --> 02:35:35,580
here spooky Jason shapeshifting
to get my fix on Tiktok clouds a

2591
02:35:35,580 --> 02:35:36,240
gypsy showed

2592
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:38,910
up after to no shows and I'm
converting everyone to flatter

2593
02:35:38,939 --> 02:35:43,379
Dave Gibson. Not all of us been
converted to Flat Earthers I

2594
02:35:43,379 --> 02:35:46,259
know Bob here this Meetup is a
part of the Russian playbook.

2595
02:35:48,120 --> 02:35:51,210
Adam Curry: And here's what's
happening today meetup wise the

2596
02:35:51,210 --> 02:35:56,910
505 meetup in Albuquerque, New
Mexico so they are probably

2597
02:35:56,910 --> 02:36:00,030
still underway. This is Jeff
tobique. Who is hosting that sir

2598
02:36:00,030 --> 02:36:03,900
Jeff? Crossroads of America
tribes outside prodigy addition

2599
02:36:04,140 --> 02:36:07,050
that is underway in
Indianapolis, Indiana the

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02:36:07,050 --> 02:36:11,730
Prodigy burger bar, the Bitcoin
pizza day 2023 In Rotolo ZPizza

2601
02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:15,690
Longview, Texas, sir dirty
Jersey whore hosting that and on

2602
02:36:15,690 --> 02:36:19,260
Thursday the next show day North
Georgia monthly meet up six

2603
02:36:19,260 --> 02:36:22,230
o'clock at the barley garden,
the rooftop look for the 33

2604
02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:25,860
Golden balloons in Alpharetta,
Georgia. And one more at the

2605
02:36:25,860 --> 02:36:29,490
Roadhouse. 630 at Lincoln's
Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.

2606
02:36:30,090 --> 02:36:33,960
That's just a smattering of
meetups that you can enjoy. They

2607
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:36,570
are all over the world, they go
all the way through the end of

2608
02:36:36,570 --> 02:36:43,050
June. And you do not want to be
one of those people who, like

2609
02:36:43,050 --> 02:36:46,170
John has a meetup happening
right near you and you miss out.

2610
02:36:48,030 --> 02:36:51,840
Again, we keep a straight face.
Go to no agenda meetups.com Take

2611
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:55,200
a look find one near you look
for your state you can even see

2612
02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:58,410
some meetup reports you can you
know what you can do if you

2613
02:36:58,410 --> 02:37:01,350
can't find anything near you
start one yourself no agenda

2614
02:37:01,350 --> 02:37:03,060
meetup.com It's easy.

2615
02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:17,880
Unknown: Day you won't be
triggered. Everybody feels the

2616
02:37:17,880 --> 02:37:24,000
same. It's like it is

2617
02:37:25,620 --> 02:37:28,770
Adam Curry: I only have one, one
ISO and I didn't even play the

2618
02:37:28,770 --> 02:37:31,590
clip that the ISO was taken from
a field. That's interesting. You

2619
02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:35,130
only have one like a dope.
You'll also only have one. Yeah.

2620
02:37:35,400 --> 02:37:38,280
Well, I'm since I went first.
The last two times. I'm gonna

2621
02:37:38,280 --> 02:37:43,170
play yours first. Okay, here we
go. Thank you. Thank you. Here's

2622
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:43,560
mine.

2623
02:37:43,890 --> 02:37:45,870
Unknown: Hello, Bitcoiners.

2624
02:37:47,850 --> 02:37:48,630
John C Dvorak: I couldn't hear
it.

2625
02:37:49,470 --> 02:37:52,650
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll play
which disqualifies it right off

2626
02:37:52,650 --> 02:37:57,390
the bat. I'm gonna play this
clip for you. This is a

2627
02:37:57,570 --> 02:38:03,690
presidential candidate, Robert
F. Kennedy, Jr. who was out on

2628
02:38:03,690 --> 02:38:09,030
the campaign trail. And he
stopped off at the Bitcoin 2023

2629
02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:10,590
conference in Miami.

2630
02:38:11,040 --> 02:38:19,350
Unknown: Hello, Bitcoiners.
There's a lot of people who are

2631
02:38:19,350 --> 02:38:25,230
not in this room for whom
Bitcoin may seem an issue that's

2632
02:38:25,230 --> 02:38:29,670
too trivial for a presidential
campaign. David Bailey at a

2633
02:38:29,700 --> 02:38:35,100
party that we were at last night
asked me how I sold on Bitcoin.

2634
02:38:35,790 --> 02:38:39,930
And I told them that it happened
to me in an instance, when I saw

2635
02:38:39,930 --> 02:38:42,960
the truckers what happened at
the trucker strike in Ottawa.

2636
02:38:43,890 --> 02:38:44,310
And

2637
02:38:46,050 --> 02:38:48,060
Adam Curry: I thought this is
really interesting. He did a

2638
02:38:48,060 --> 02:38:53,520
keynote address 25 minutes, knew
what he was talking about. And I

2639
02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:56,880
think it was very interesting
content constituency to go

2640
02:38:56,880 --> 02:38:57,420
after.

2641
02:38:58,770 --> 02:39:01,680
John C Dvorak: It's pretty big.
Yeah, I think he's, well, the

2642
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:06,090
guy. The guy could beat Joe
Biden, if they actually let him.

2643
02:39:06,990 --> 02:39:11,700
If they covered him, honestly.
They're not going to do that.

2644
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:15,270
You know, there's a fact that
you can even get that clip as

2645
02:39:15,270 --> 02:39:15,900
amazing.

2646
02:39:18,330 --> 02:39:20,610
Adam Curry: Well, it's the
Bitcoin Conference. They do

2647
02:39:20,610 --> 02:39:26,310
protect. They're pretty good
about getting the word out. I'm

2648
02:39:26,310 --> 02:39:32,610
hearing people who traditionally
might vote Republican discussing

2649
02:39:32,610 --> 02:39:38,040
him as a potential. Yeah, I
think that's interesting.

2650
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:40,650
John C Dvorak: It is. The whole
thing is interesting. I think

2651
02:39:40,650 --> 02:39:44,310
he's a good candidate. Except
you're not gonna let him win.

2652
02:39:46,620 --> 02:39:50,040
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's, that's
usually usually it's followed by

2653
02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:52,740
but he won't win because the
elections are rigged. That's

2654
02:39:52,740 --> 02:39:55,230
usually how the conference

2655
02:39:56,880 --> 02:39:59,370
John C Dvorak: is rigged. You
don't have to rig the elections

2656
02:39:59,370 --> 02:40:01,470
if you just keep Get the guy,
you know, it's like they did

2657
02:40:01,470 --> 02:40:06,450
with as it will go back to 2016
when Bernie Sanders was a viable

2658
02:40:06,450 --> 02:40:10,200
candidate, right, he would draw
the same crowds, the same and

2659
02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:13,860
massive crowds and Trump did.
Yeah. But they would never let

2660
02:40:13,860 --> 02:40:15,390
him they would never cover it.

2661
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:20,040
Adam Curry: Well, and that was
in the in the DNC emails in case

2662
02:40:20,070 --> 02:40:24,150
everyone forgot there was ample
evidence that the Clinton

2663
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:27,120
campaign had basically screwed
Bernie Sanders over.

2664
02:40:27,810 --> 02:40:29,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
screwed him over and and what's

2665
02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:33,390
her name out of Florida, that
horrible woman that's the still

2666
02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:38,490
in the Congress, Debbie
Wasserman Schultz. She had been

2667
02:40:38,490 --> 02:40:42,900
running the demo to DNC and she
made it clear in her emails that

2668
02:40:42,900 --> 02:40:45,840
they weren't going to let Bernie
get anywhere. So they just told

2669
02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:50,040
the media, hey, media people,
you'd listen to us don't cover

2670
02:40:50,040 --> 02:40:52,770
these big events that he's
having a goal these kids coming

2671
02:40:52,770 --> 02:40:55,950
out because he would, you know,
he's too much chance that he

2672
02:40:55,950 --> 02:40:57,780
could upset the applecart. You

2673
02:40:57,780 --> 02:40:59,910
Adam Curry: had a thing going on
with with the young kids, they

2674
02:41:00,060 --> 02:41:02,910
was like grandpa Bernie, and
they thought it was endearing.

2675
02:41:02,910 --> 02:41:06,000
And you know, it's a socialist
people like that the young kids

2676
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:08,130
think that's all cool and
groovy. It's not your grandpa,

2677
02:41:08,130 --> 02:41:11,100
socialism. It's a new kind of
new kind of socialism.

2678
02:41:11,460 --> 02:41:14,010
John C Dvorak: But he was cut
off at the knees. So that's what

2679
02:41:14,010 --> 02:41:14,370
you do,

2680
02:41:14,430 --> 02:41:16,950
Adam Curry: and all and he only
did his will good. He didn't

2681
02:41:16,950 --> 02:41:19,620
even he didn't even fight. No,
of course

2682
02:41:19,620 --> 02:41:21,480
John C Dvorak: not. Because he's
a good, he's a good boy.

2683
02:41:21,660 --> 02:41:25,500
Adam Curry: There's a good
little Democrat. Now, on the

2684
02:41:25,500 --> 02:41:25,830
heels,

2685
02:41:25,830 --> 02:41:27,870
John C Dvorak: we know he's an
independent technically, which

2686
02:41:27,870 --> 02:41:29,730
makes it funnier on the heels

2687
02:41:29,730 --> 02:41:38,280
Adam Curry: of, of RFK Jr's
speech, and he went into quite

2688
02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:43,200
some detail about the Canadian
truckers protest. And he said,

2689
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:46,890
you know, this is exactly what
they plan to do with Central

2690
02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:49,920
Bank digital currencies or, or
money that the that the

2691
02:41:49,920 --> 02:41:54,390
government will control through
programmability. And he made a

2692
02:41:54,390 --> 02:41:57,990
very good case. And I think we
would agree with that. And lo

2693
02:41:57,990 --> 02:42:01,800
and behold, the Bank of Canada,
which is also the Central Bank

2694
02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:05,880
of Canada, all in a way, they're
their money printing Federal

2695
02:42:05,880 --> 02:42:08,160
Reserve, they came out with a
pitch

2696
02:42:13,020 --> 02:42:15,900
Unknown: how Canadians pay for
everyday things is changing.

2697
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:21,480
Some are using less cash in
favor of other payment methods.

2698
02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:25,500
To keep up with the changing
ways that people pay at the Bank

2699
02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:29,730
of Canada is exploring a digital
Canadian dollar, also known as a

2700
02:42:29,730 --> 02:42:33,900
central bank, digital currency.
Simply put, this would be a

2701
02:42:33,900 --> 02:42:37,920
digital version of cash, but it
wouldn't replace cash, it would

2702
02:42:37,920 --> 02:42:41,340
have the same dollar value, and
it would be accessible to anyone

2703
02:42:41,340 --> 02:42:46,080
and everyone. You could use this
digital Canadian dollar to buy

2704
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:50,100
everyday things, just like you
use cash or a bank card, but it

2705
02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:54,960
would be different. Unlike cash,
you wouldn't need to carry

2706
02:42:54,960 --> 02:43:00,600
multiple bills or change. Like a
bank card, it would work for

2707
02:43:00,600 --> 02:43:05,880
both in person and online
purchases. Similar to bank

2708
02:43:05,880 --> 02:43:09,330
notes, it could possibly still
be used when the internet is not

2709
02:43:09,330 --> 02:43:13,410
available. Just like the cash in
your wallet, it wouldn't earn

2710
02:43:13,410 --> 02:43:19,320
interest. But it would be secure
and private. You could keep your

2711
02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:23,760
digital dollar securely on a
phone or a card or another

2712
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:28,380
device. At this point at the
Bank of Canada, we're still

2713
02:43:28,380 --> 02:43:31,110
studying the possibility of
issuing a digital Canadian

2714
02:43:31,110 --> 02:43:36,720
dollar and how it might work.
Tell us what you think about a

2715
02:43:36,720 --> 02:43:39,210
digital Canadian dollar by
taking part in our public

2716
02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:39,930
consultation.

2717
02:43:42,300 --> 02:43:44,370
Adam Curry: You better run over
there. People tell him no

2718
02:43:46,200 --> 02:43:48,420
John C Dvorak: different than a
traditional credit card which

2719
02:43:48,450 --> 02:43:51,150
works without the Internet.
Remember those old cars he used

2720
02:43:51,150 --> 02:43:53,370
to have an embossed thing you
put in the little machine is

2721
02:43:53,370 --> 02:43:54,660
scraped back and fourth.

2722
02:43:54,870 --> 02:43:57,090
Adam Curry: I am not as though I
love

2723
02:43:57,360 --> 02:43:59,130
John C Dvorak: didn't need the
internet.

2724
02:44:00,870 --> 02:44:03,150
Adam Curry: Those were the best.
I love those.

2725
02:44:03,540 --> 02:44:05,160
John C Dvorak: I have two of
those old machines.

2726
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:08,280
Adam Curry: Yeah, you got them
from the bank. I know it I

2727
02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:11,280
remember when they're like hey
mechanic's bank. Hey, just give

2728
02:44:11,280 --> 02:44:13,710
me just you just oh yeah, we
need to take some credit cards.

2729
02:44:13,710 --> 02:44:16,410
Just give me those. It doesn't
you just wanted to have them.

2730
02:44:16,500 --> 02:44:18,960
John C Dvorak: That was the
Yeah, that's the good old days

2731
02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:20,790
when the bank Oh, yeah. Here's
one take it.

2732
02:44:21,150 --> 02:44:22,950
Adam Curry: Remember you if
you're in a cab and you were

2733
02:44:23,130 --> 02:44:26,550
stocking to have any cash than
that, you know, take your card

2734
02:44:26,550 --> 02:44:30,210
and then you put it on a book,
like the Koran, and then you rub

2735
02:44:30,210 --> 02:44:31,950
it with the pantry right?

2736
02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:35,700
John C Dvorak: was true. The
Koran is blasphemy

2737
02:44:35,910 --> 02:44:38,730
Adam Curry: in New York City.
I've seen it done. I've seen it

2738
02:44:38,730 --> 02:44:39,090
done.

2739
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:41,880
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
of clips I want to play on the

2740
02:44:41,880 --> 02:44:42,690
default.

2741
02:44:43,410 --> 02:44:46,830
Adam Curry: Oh yes, we still
defaulting. What I read was The

2742
02:44:46,860 --> 02:44:50,220
Kevin McCarthy House Leader
Kevin McCarthy said he could not

2743
02:44:50,220 --> 02:44:54,450
negotiate until Biden returned
from the g7 Mike No more no camp

2744
02:44:54,450 --> 02:44:55,230
can't do it.

2745
02:44:56,760 --> 02:44:58,740
John C Dvorak: Here's a couple
of clips. So this isn't about

2746
02:44:58,740 --> 02:45:02,670
the default or anything. This
was just kind of some clips that

2747
02:45:02,670 --> 02:45:07,950
has say something I think is
interesting. This is notes on

2748
02:45:07,950 --> 02:45:09,510
default, a usual

2749
02:45:10,860 --> 02:45:13,380
Unknown: because they've done
work on behalf of US taxpayer.

2750
02:45:13,650 --> 02:45:17,070
We also owe a whole lot of
people money who are entitled to

2751
02:45:17,070 --> 02:45:18,810
benefits like Social Security,

2752
02:45:19,110 --> 02:45:22,680
about 70 million Americans
receive Social Security benefits

2753
02:45:22,830 --> 02:45:25,890
more than one in five of us. But
for many isn't the money

2754
02:45:25,890 --> 02:45:28,050
supplemental. So some

2755
02:45:28,050 --> 02:45:30,900
people can afford to wait a
little bit before they're paid

2756
02:45:30,900 --> 02:45:33,510
by the federal government. But
many 10s of millions of people

2757
02:45:33,510 --> 02:45:35,400
who receive Social Security
can't afford to wait.

2758
02:45:35,700 --> 02:45:39,870
In fact, for 40% of
beneficiaries, Social Security

2759
02:45:39,900 --> 02:45:41,880
is their sole means of support,

2760
02:45:41,970 --> 02:45:44,370
the impact on them would would
be dramatic, can't pay the rent,

2761
02:45:44,370 --> 02:45:47,370
can't buy it can't buy food,
can't pay central medical bills.

2762
02:45:47,460 --> 02:45:50,250
I mean that that would just be a
horrible, horrible human cost.

2763
02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:53,490
And what about America's
millions of federal employees?

2764
02:45:54,210 --> 02:45:56,490
Adam Curry: Why don't they bring
a Brit into this story? It's not

2765
02:45:56,490 --> 02:45:56,550
a

2766
02:45:56,550 --> 02:45:58,560
John C Dvorak: British? I don't
know. But this is the said that

2767
02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:02,760
I just played this clip, because
it's the same old same old

2768
02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:06,300
instead of saying, Yeah, well,
we could stop sending 10s of

2769
02:46:06,300 --> 02:46:11,580
billions of dollars to Ukraine.
And we could maybe I don't know

2770
02:46:11,610 --> 02:46:16,350
audit the Pentagon? No, no, no.
Social Security. Let's scare the

2771
02:46:16,350 --> 02:46:19,140
old people. You can't pay your
bills. I mean,

2772
02:46:19,140 --> 02:46:21,720
Adam Curry: he literally just
came up with 3 billion due to an

2773
02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:25,050
accounting error in your in your
favor. We could use

2774
02:46:25,050 --> 02:46:28,140
John C Dvorak: that to remind
people that this goes on and on.

2775
02:46:28,140 --> 02:46:33,210
But this is this other clip this
one and it says default GT. This

2776
02:46:34,620 --> 02:46:38,490
I didn't quite know but this is
actually what has to be going

2777
02:46:38,490 --> 02:46:39,600
on. Listen to this.

2778
02:46:41,130 --> 02:46:46,530
Unknown: In Game Theory, it does
not make any sense to reach an

2779
02:46:46,530 --> 02:46:49,800
agreement before the last second

2780
02:46:50,970 --> 02:46:52,770
Adam Curry: in game theory, is

2781
02:46:52,770 --> 02:46:56,400
John C Dvorak: it in game
theory? It doesn't make any

2782
02:46:56,400 --> 02:47:01,590
sense to reach an agreement
before the last minute so guess

2783
02:47:01,620 --> 02:47:03,660
what's gonna happen second,
second

2784
02:47:03,660 --> 02:47:04,500
Unknown: before

2785
02:47:05,580 --> 02:47:08,820
Adam Curry: last second. Oh,
they're gonna spin everybody up.

2786
02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:12,780
Everyone's gonna be flipping out
like whoo Republicans bad

2787
02:47:13,350 --> 02:47:18,060
Democrats baby all the podcasts
are like all company with the

2788
02:47:18,060 --> 02:47:23,880
doo doo scourge. Is that what's
going to happen?

2789
02:47:25,080 --> 02:47:26,550
John C Dvorak: Over the top?
Sorry.

2790
02:47:27,240 --> 02:47:29,280
Adam Curry: Okay, that's that's
the way I remember it.

2791
02:47:31,050 --> 02:47:34,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this is
this whole thing is horse

2792
02:47:34,050 --> 02:47:34,830
manure. You know,

2793
02:47:35,369 --> 02:47:38,699
Adam Curry: the internet really
made things worse. It's really

2794
02:47:38,699 --> 02:47:40,259
it really did not improve life.
I've

2795
02:47:40,260 --> 02:47:41,640
John C Dvorak: said that since
day one.

2796
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:44,340
Adam Curry: I'm now that I'm old
like you and yelling at the

2797
02:47:44,340 --> 02:47:46,950
clouds. I'm with you. I'm
waiting to get the kids on the

2798
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:53,490
lawn. Yes, get off my lawn and
the Internet sucks. I need that

2799
02:47:53,490 --> 02:47:57,870
T shirt. Get off my lawn the and
the Internet sucks. I have a big

2800
02:47:57,870 --> 02:48:01,890
pharma clip, which is kind of
fun. Because it's about ozempic.

2801
02:48:03,210 --> 02:48:05,610
John C Dvorak: Oh, is that big

2802
02:48:06,150 --> 02:48:09,150
Adam Curry: man, the big pharma
people they are they really

2803
02:48:09,150 --> 02:48:15,000
truly are bad. So first of all,
we have drug shortages now,

2804
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:19,020
which I think is also a spin up.
But But But I figured out what

2805
02:48:19,020 --> 02:48:23,250
this is. So here's the headline.
drug shortage is near an all

2806
02:48:23,250 --> 02:48:27,720
time high, leading to rationing
The New York Times drug

2807
02:48:27,720 --> 02:48:31,350
shortages reach public health
emergency levels, doctor say,

2808
02:48:31,740 --> 02:48:39,120
Daily Mail? And what is it about
the scarcity of generic forms of

2809
02:48:39,120 --> 02:48:45,900
drugs? Now, we need to tell
everybody how this works. So

2810
02:48:45,900 --> 02:48:51,390
when a drug goes out of patent,
which is a statutory amount of

2811
02:48:51,390 --> 02:48:55,740
time, that is six years or so.
And then everyone can make this

2812
02:48:55,740 --> 02:49:02,010
drug. And probably around 1012
years ago, we noticed that the

2813
02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:04,080
so it was a pretty good
business, you know, you could

2814
02:49:04,080 --> 02:49:07,380
have a generic drug company, a
just crank out stuff at a

2815
02:49:07,380 --> 02:49:10,800
reasonable price. And then the
big pharma companies went you

2816
02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:13,260
know, we're gonna do, we're
gonna buy these generic

2817
02:49:13,260 --> 02:49:16,020
companies, and then we cornered
the market, and then we can

2818
02:49:16,020 --> 02:49:21,390
start raising the price again.
And so now they're saying all

2819
02:49:21,420 --> 02:49:27,360
generic companies, supply chain
bla bla the problems blah, blah,

2820
02:49:27,360 --> 02:49:31,350
blah, blah, oh, we need help.
And so what's what is happening?

2821
02:49:32,670 --> 02:49:40,140
The FDA has put a team of 10
people looking at these drug

2822
02:49:40,140 --> 02:49:43,800
shortages, and they're going to
Congress and the White House

2823
02:49:43,800 --> 02:49:47,400
with the ball. The generic drug
industry is under severe

2824
02:49:47,400 --> 02:49:51,630
financial strain. We need to
help them out. This is the

2825
02:49:51,630 --> 02:49:55,020
farmers, the big pharma drug
companies. They couldn't it's

2826
02:49:55,020 --> 02:49:59,970
not enough. It's never enough
for them. They just want more

2827
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:04,470
money from the government from
us. Because it's the big pharma

2828
02:50:04,470 --> 02:50:07,290
owns them. They own the
generics.

2829
02:50:07,350 --> 02:50:09,270
John C Dvorak: It's something to
see I'm telling you, I've never

2830
02:50:09,270 --> 02:50:10,170
seen anything like it.

2831
02:50:10,680 --> 02:50:13,710
Adam Curry: And the New York
Times, they're all in Oh, this

2832
02:50:13,710 --> 02:50:14,310
is horrible. Now,

2833
02:50:14,310 --> 02:50:16,920
John C Dvorak: these news
organizations are clueless.

2834
02:50:17,610 --> 02:50:19,860
Adam Curry: We have got to fix
the core economics of the

2835
02:50:19,860 --> 02:50:22,770
generic business if we're going
to get the situation fixed.

2836
02:50:28,770 --> 02:50:34,350
The obesity drugs. Now, this is
a marketing initiative. It

2837
02:50:34,350 --> 02:50:39,960
showed up in Reuters. So you
know, it's PR. This is the

2838
02:50:39,960 --> 02:50:47,100
Nordisk drug, which is the what
is it? What gonee Wigo govi?

2839
02:50:47,640 --> 02:50:48,630
John C Dvorak: Gotta know what
it's called.

2840
02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:50,610
Adam Curry: I can't remember.
Yeah, so we have ozempic. And

2841
02:50:50,610 --> 02:50:52,800
that's, you know, that's not
pretty much only used for weight

2842
02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:56,190
loss, but you know, it's for
it's for diabetes. So we'll go

2843
02:50:56,190 --> 02:50:59,910
V. De, which was supposed to be
only for diabetes, and is more

2844
02:50:59,910 --> 02:51:03,480
expensive. Now, it's being used
for weight loss as well, but

2845
02:51:03,480 --> 02:51:09,900
they have an extra benefit,
according to Reuters. The the,

2846
02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:17,970
what is it called again, go V.
has an extra heart benefit. You

2847
02:51:17,970 --> 02:51:22,890
won't get a heart attack as
quickly as ozempic. Yeah, well,

2848
02:51:22,890 --> 02:51:25,170
they're not saying that, but
they're just saying, Oh, are our

2849
02:51:25,170 --> 02:51:30,630
drug off? Not only does it make
you lose lean body tissue,

2850
02:51:31,170 --> 02:51:35,700
John C Dvorak: it'd become a
weird looking person and sagging

2851
02:51:35,700 --> 02:51:36,450
face.

2852
02:51:36,539 --> 02:51:40,289
Adam Curry: And now there's the
independent, which is kind of a

2853
02:51:40,799 --> 02:51:44,459
kind of a like, well, they try
it's been a piece of shit for

2854
02:51:44,459 --> 02:51:49,319
years majors with obesity should
be offered transformative weight

2855
02:51:49,319 --> 02:51:54,359
loss injection, say experts. Oh,
yes. So if you've been eating

2856
02:51:54,359 --> 02:51:56,699
colorful things from your
supermarket, which is not really

2857
02:51:56,699 --> 02:52:00,329
food, we should be giving you
the shot, because that's all you

2858
02:52:00,329 --> 02:52:04,169
need. You don't need to improve
your intake. No, no, no, no, no

2859
02:52:04,349 --> 02:52:09,449
weight loss jab can have the
obesity rates and teenagers.

2860
02:52:09,989 --> 02:52:13,649
This is phenomenal. What an
invention. Please do not

2861
02:52:13,649 --> 02:52:17,999
exercise. Do not look at what
you're eating, stay on the

2862
02:52:17,999 --> 02:52:25,349
phone, stay on the phone. I saw
I saw this other great video. So

2863
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:30,029
the iPhone, every five seconds,
it scans your face with

2864
02:52:30,029 --> 02:52:32,549
infrared, which you don't see
unless you use an infrared

2865
02:52:32,549 --> 02:52:36,119
camera that you can see every
five seconds. It's beaming light

2866
02:52:36,119 --> 02:52:41,309
at your face. For the you know,
for the for the ID to unlock or

2867
02:52:41,309 --> 02:52:45,329
whatever. But it's not like it
just does it when it's time for

2868
02:52:45,389 --> 02:52:49,559
you to ID yourself. Now, every
five seconds, it's taking an

2869
02:52:49,559 --> 02:52:56,129
infrared scan. For what purpose
to affect your nervous system, I

2870
02:52:56,129 --> 02:52:56,939
would presume.

2871
02:52:59,070 --> 02:53:02,160
John C Dvorak: That's what we
can do red pop is going to

2872
02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:03,630
affect your nervous system.

2873
02:53:03,660 --> 02:53:06,360
Adam Curry: It's well known that
any type of light flashed in

2874
02:53:06,360 --> 02:53:10,290
your eyes whether you see it or
not. Definitely can affect your

2875
02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:15,240
nervous system. Anyway, let's go
to the ozempic commercial I'm

2876
02:53:15,240 --> 02:53:20,550
sorry. Op Ed. I'm sorry, a new
story on Good Morning America

2877
02:53:20,550 --> 02:53:22,050
with Dr. Jenn. Er, we do

2878
02:53:22,050 --> 02:53:24,150
Unknown: have some news to talk
to you doctor about microgen The

2879
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:27,570
age news American Hair Loss
Association has issued a pretty

2880
02:53:27,570 --> 02:53:32,370
strong warning advising against
the misuse of ozempic and other

2881
02:53:32,370 --> 02:53:35,790
drugs that are similar for
anything other than diabetes.

2882
02:53:35,820 --> 02:53:38,670
Adam Curry: Aha, you see, this
is the story we had like oh you

2883
02:53:38,670 --> 02:53:41,250
get ozempic face well, we can
deal with that. But the hair

2884
02:53:41,250 --> 02:53:44,550
loss we've got to stop that Dr.
Jen here's your script or

2885
02:53:44,550 --> 02:53:46,050
obesity write this down.

2886
02:53:46,050 --> 02:53:49,800
Unknown: So keyword that you
said Eva Miss use these drugs

2887
02:53:49,800 --> 02:53:52,890
because remember this, this
warning does not apply to people

2888
02:53:52,890 --> 02:53:55,830
who absolutely need these drugs
for the treatment of type two

2889
02:53:55,830 --> 02:54:00,000
diabetes, or who are taking them
under the advice of a obesity

2890
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:02,700
medicine physician to treat the
condition of overweight or

2891
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:05,190
obesity. But take a look at what
they're warning they're talking

2892
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:09,330
about the fact that hormonal
shifts that are kind of

2893
02:54:09,330 --> 02:54:12,540
accompany these medications can
trigger temporary hair shedding

2894
02:54:12,570 --> 02:54:15,720
and hair loss, the hair
follicles can shrink and produce

2895
02:54:15,750 --> 02:54:18,720
thinner and shorter strands. And
this can lead to certain

2896
02:54:18,720 --> 02:54:22,140
patterns of hair loss, male
pattern hair loss androgenic

2897
02:54:22,140 --> 02:54:26,550
alopecia misuse can cause
progressive hair loss that could

2898
02:54:26,580 --> 02:54:30,750
become permanent. And that by
the way, we have to emphasize

2899
02:54:30,810 --> 02:54:35,400
can be seen with rapid weight
loss due to any reason. But

2900
02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:37,890
they're just flagging in here
and we have to remember the FDA

2901
02:54:37,950 --> 02:54:44,130
has approved ozempic and similar
semaglutide GLP one agonists for

2902
02:54:44,130 --> 02:54:48,030
the treatment of type two
diabetes and obesity. I can't

2903
02:54:48,030 --> 02:54:50,760
emphasize this enough you guys
this is risk benefit. This

2904
02:54:50,760 --> 02:54:53,520
doesn't mean these drugs are all
bad or all dangerous. It just

2905
02:54:53,520 --> 02:54:57,930
means you have to be aware of
risks and benefits and not take

2906
02:54:57,960 --> 02:55:01,470
any medication unless there's a
really good indication.

2907
02:55:01,500 --> 02:55:02,970
Adam Curry: So what about the
people who need to be on the

2908
02:55:02,970 --> 02:55:03,330
truck but

2909
02:55:03,330 --> 02:55:05,010
Unknown: they're still losing
their hair? Well, I think you

2910
02:55:05,010 --> 02:55:08,760
either treat the symptom in the
case of hair loss or hair

2911
02:55:08,760 --> 02:55:11,790
thinning or you remove the cause
which if you're taking these

2912
02:55:11,790 --> 02:55:14,550
drugs, not for the right reason
would be removing the

2913
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:17,910
medication. So you have to you
have to treat the whole person

2914
02:55:17,910 --> 02:55:20,460
and that's what this headline is
really about. Oh, well

2915
02:55:20,460 --> 02:55:23,100
Adam Curry: done. Well done.
You've debunked the stupid

2916
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:26,280
headline. Dr. Jenn. Keep on
taking your ozempic People have

2917
02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:28,140
nothing to see here. It's all
good. And when

2918
02:55:28,140 --> 02:55:29,940
John C Dvorak: your hair all
falls on your bald as a

2919
02:55:29,940 --> 02:55:33,270
billiard, don't worry about it.
Alicia, thin

2920
02:55:33,570 --> 02:55:37,860
Adam Curry: and pregnant moms
pregnant moms, you need an mRNA

2921
02:55:37,860 --> 02:55:41,460
shot for your unborn baby. Dr.
Jen back again.

2922
02:55:43,380 --> 02:55:47,610
Unknown: Jen back with us and
some promising news about RSV

2923
02:55:47,610 --> 02:55:50,040
vaccines and expecting mothers
Yes.

2924
02:55:50,040 --> 02:55:53,250
So we talked in the COVID
pandemic about why it is so

2925
02:55:53,250 --> 02:55:57,360
important to do clinical trials
in pregnant women. When you talk

2926
02:55:57,360 --> 02:56:02,130
about a vaccine. Now the maker
of one of the RSV vaccines that

2927
02:56:02,130 --> 02:56:05,880
we may be seeing in the general
population soon Pfizer has clear

2928
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:10,440
one hurdle, there are many more
towards getting that vaccine

2929
02:56:10,470 --> 02:56:15,120
approved for use in pregnant
women between 24 and 36 weeks of

2930
02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:19,710
pregnancy. Their clinical trials
showed very good efficacy, no

2931
02:56:19,710 --> 02:56:23,940
significant safety concerns, and
an independent committee advised

2932
02:56:23,940 --> 02:56:27,960
the FDA. Yes, you can go forward
with this. Now the FDA has to

2933
02:56:27,960 --> 02:56:31,590
decide and then the CDC has to
weigh in. So there are a lot of

2934
02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:34,860
hurdles. And that's a good
thing. But it's possible that we

2935
02:56:34,860 --> 02:56:39,390
may be able to see this vaccine
in the fall in time for the next

2936
02:56:39,390 --> 02:56:42,930
big RSV season. And again, the
concept here is that few

2937
02:56:42,930 --> 02:56:46,200
vaccinated pregnant woman, those
antibodies that immune

2938
02:56:46,200 --> 02:56:50,070
protection gets transferred in
utero through the tube, the

2939
02:56:50,070 --> 02:56:51,570
fetus antibodies,

2940
02:56:51,600 --> 02:56:53,370
Adam Curry: its mRNA

2941
02:56:53,430 --> 02:56:58,440
John C Dvorak: we have did three
years ago, or let's say be pre

2942
02:56:58,440 --> 02:57:03,000
COVID. All the shows we did 10
years of shows. I never heard of

2943
02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:03,660
this disease.

2944
02:57:03,690 --> 02:57:06,600
Adam Curry: RSV season. No, it's
not RSV season, like the

2945
02:57:06,600 --> 02:57:08,400
fighting season in Afghanistan.

2946
02:57:09,060 --> 02:57:11,070
John C Dvorak: So I've never
heard of this. But now all of a

2947
02:57:11,070 --> 02:57:14,160
sudden, this they're making a
vaccine for this is

2948
02:57:14,310 --> 02:57:17,250
unbelievable. It's Big Pharma,
I'm

2949
02:57:17,250 --> 02:57:18,060
Unknown: telling you, they're
going to

2950
02:57:19,170 --> 02:57:22,890
John C Dvorak: throw up an mRNA
vaccine, just a random one and

2951
02:57:22,890 --> 02:57:26,130
to pregnant women. Oh, I'm sure
they're going to be lined up for

2952
02:57:26,130 --> 02:57:27,690
that. You idiots, you

2953
02:57:27,690 --> 02:57:31,530
Adam Curry: are exactly the
problem. You You are the

2954
02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:36,120
problem. What you're saying
right here is a huge problem.

2955
02:57:37,290 --> 02:57:41,910
And Reuters addressed this by
leading the witness, the CEO of

2956
02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:42,480
Pfizer,

2957
02:57:42,570 --> 02:57:47,190
Unknown: another legacy of the
pandemic. And, you know, we have

2958
02:57:47,220 --> 02:57:51,210
we have seen this as we tried to
report on it, you know, has been

2959
02:57:51,210 --> 02:57:56,010
growing mistrust of vaccines,
and including in general right

2960
02:57:56,010 --> 02:58:00,990
routine childhood immunizations.
You know, it has contributed, as

2961
02:58:00,990 --> 02:58:04,230
you know, to the rise of figures
like Robert F. Kennedy,

2962
02:58:04,350 --> 02:58:07,260
Adam Curry: that horrible guy is
also the problem. Robert F.

2963
02:58:07,260 --> 02:58:09,060
Kennedy Jr. Anti vaxxers

2964
02:58:09,540 --> 02:58:13,620
Unknown: What needs to be done
to counter this wider assault on

2965
02:58:13,620 --> 02:58:14,700
vaccines, kill

2966
02:58:14,700 --> 02:58:17,940
Adam Curry: them, remove them
from society DeVore AK and

2967
02:58:17,940 --> 02:58:18,570
Kennedy.

2968
02:58:19,109 --> 02:58:21,599
Unknown: I think it's a very
difficult situation and I would

2969
02:58:21,599 --> 02:58:24,449
say unfortunate is not an
assault on vaccines is on

2970
02:58:24,449 --> 02:58:25,169
science

2971
02:58:25,199 --> 02:58:27,599
Adam Curry: and assault on
science, John, you are anti

2972
02:58:27,599 --> 02:58:28,379
science.

2973
02:58:28,769 --> 02:58:35,549
Unknown: Everything now is
disputed. And not only science

2974
02:58:35,549 --> 02:58:38,729
as a whole but very
specifically, the credibility of

2975
02:58:38,729 --> 02:58:44,879
iconic institutions like CDC or
FDA or EMA in Europe,

2976
02:58:45,060 --> 02:58:47,250
Adam Curry: or prominent
institutions who had everything

2977
02:58:47,250 --> 02:58:49,620
right everything rights is
puted.

2978
02:58:51,060 --> 02:58:53,730
Unknown: Objective and
scientific competent to have an

2979
02:58:53,730 --> 02:58:58,170
opinion on those topics.
Academia like opinions that are

2980
02:58:58,890 --> 02:59:04,890
issued by Harvard by Stanford,
by friends universities by UK

2981
02:59:04,920 --> 02:59:09,030
universities by Italian
universities are disputed just

2982
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:16,110
in in social media. We are
living situation but I never

2983
02:59:16,110 --> 02:59:21,210
thought we will live and clearly
another photo will live after a

2984
02:59:21,210 --> 02:59:23,730
pandemic where sciences will who
saved

2985
02:59:24,930 --> 02:59:29,100
Adam Curry: and saved us John
Sian science saved us science

2986
02:59:29,100 --> 02:59:31,740
beat the evil pandemic germ,

2987
02:59:31,830 --> 02:59:35,970
Unknown: it is science that the
one the virus right

2988
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:38,940
Adam Curry: signs one the virus
whatever that means, but

2989
02:59:40,050 --> 02:59:45,030
Unknown: right now unfortunately
one virus it happens very often

2990
02:59:46,950 --> 02:59:49,860
any because this is getting
caught into politics.

2991
02:59:50,580 --> 02:59:54,810
Unfortunately, at large in the
world, the political life is

2992
02:59:54,840 --> 02:59:57,510
fairly polarized right now.

2993
02:59:58,860 --> 03:00:05,490
Adam Curry: Ah, my Do they say
em? And? Yeah, it's, it's just

2994
03:00:05,490 --> 03:00:08,400
politics. You see, it's only
politics. It's at least trying

2995
03:00:08,400 --> 03:00:12,330
to say Republicans, but he can't
because it's also RFK. And it's

2996
03:00:12,330 --> 03:00:17,250
not just social media, it's
podcasters. But they have a

2997
03:00:17,250 --> 03:00:22,530
plan. And the plan is, it all
comes together the trans Maori

2998
03:00:22,530 --> 03:00:26,610
society, if we're gonna get rid
of the social media, people who

2999
03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:29,430
are against science and get rid
of the podcasters we're gonna

3000
03:00:29,430 --> 03:00:33,840
get rid of rid of stupid
politicians. And while we're at

3001
03:00:33,840 --> 03:00:35,460
it, let's get rid of the gays in

3002
03:00:35,460 --> 03:00:38,370
Unknown: tonight's Healthwatch
federal health officials are

3003
03:00:38,370 --> 03:00:42,330
warning that the nationwide
outbreak of impacts previously

3004
03:00:42,330 --> 03:00:46,560
known as monkey pox is far from
over. The warning comes as a

3005
03:00:46,560 --> 03:00:50,700
cluster of new cases have
emerged in Chicago. CBS has

3006
03:00:50,700 --> 03:00:56,220
Roxanna severity reports only
23% of the 1.6 million Americans

3007
03:00:56,400 --> 03:00:59,430
considered at higher risk have
been vaccinated.

3008
03:00:59,790 --> 03:01:03,360
More than 20 cases at the end
pox virus had been reported in

3009
03:01:03,360 --> 03:01:07,380
Chicago since mid April. The
majority are in fully vaccinated

3010
03:01:07,380 --> 03:01:11,070
people. Dr. Karen Krueger says
immunity to the virus might be

3011
03:01:11,070 --> 03:01:13,980
waning. But the recent cases
treated at Chicago's

3012
03:01:13,980 --> 03:01:17,580
Northwestern Memorial Hospital
had been mild to moderate.

3013
03:01:17,790 --> 03:01:20,820
I think a lot of individuals,
you know probably felt protected

3014
03:01:20,820 --> 03:01:23,700
to some degree by either having
had the infection or having been

3015
03:01:23,700 --> 03:01:26,790
vaccinated, so people just
became more relaxed about it.

3016
03:01:26,850 --> 03:01:29,760
That would probably be my best
guess. On Monday,

3017
03:01:29,760 --> 03:01:32,910
the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention issued a warning

3018
03:01:32,910 --> 03:01:36,420
saying it was very concerned
about an Mbox resurgence this

3019
03:01:36,420 --> 03:01:40,020
summer, more than 30,000 people
in the US have already

3020
03:01:40,020 --> 03:01:43,560
contracted the disease. The
overwhelming majority are men

3021
03:01:43,560 --> 03:01:44,850
who have sex with men,

3022
03:01:44,910 --> 03:01:49,890
Adam Curry: and this is where it
goes wrong. What is a man? What

3023
03:01:49,890 --> 03:01:55,110
is a woman? So that's the only
way you can say get rid of the

3024
03:01:55,110 --> 03:02:01,530
gays. Men Who Have Sex With Men.
It's really really really evil

3025
03:02:01,530 --> 03:02:03,180
what these people do evil

3026
03:02:05,850 --> 03:02:07,350
Unknown: the sciences and

3027
03:02:09,570 --> 03:02:10,830
Adam Curry: you got anything
else for us?

3028
03:02:12,420 --> 03:02:15,330
John C Dvorak: I have one last
clip. That's kind of

3029
03:02:15,330 --> 03:02:17,400
interesting. Because if you
don't know what it applies to,

3030
03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:21,360
but it's a sociologist, whose
name I don't, I didn't get from

3031
03:02:21,390 --> 03:02:24,930
the guy who sent me this clip as
a good one. This is the scarred

3032
03:02:24,930 --> 03:02:29,430
woman experiment discussions. 56
seconds is a good way to end

3033
03:02:29,910 --> 03:02:34,920
Adam Curry: scarred woman. Where
are we okay scarred woman

3034
03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:36,060
experiment here we did an

3035
03:02:36,060 --> 03:02:39,210
Unknown: experiment with a group
of women. And they put scars on

3036
03:02:39,210 --> 03:02:42,240
their faces and they told these
women that they're going into a

3037
03:02:42,240 --> 03:02:45,750
job interview. And the purpose
of the experiment is to find out

3038
03:02:45,750 --> 03:02:48,210
whether people with facial
disfigurements face

3039
03:02:48,210 --> 03:02:52,110
discrimination. They showed them
the scars in the mirror. The

3040
03:02:52,110 --> 03:02:54,450
women saw themselves with the
scars. And as they led them out

3041
03:02:54,450 --> 03:02:56,190
of the room, they said which is
going to touch it up a little

3042
03:02:56,190 --> 03:02:58,830
bit. And as they touched it up,
they removed the scarring

3043
03:02:58,830 --> 03:03:02,220
completely. So the women went
into the job interview thinking

3044
03:03:02,220 --> 03:03:04,980
that they are scarred, but
actually being their normal

3045
03:03:04,980 --> 03:03:07,830
selves. And the result of the
experiment is that those women

3046
03:03:07,830 --> 03:03:10,890
then came back reporting
massively increased level of

3047
03:03:10,890 --> 03:03:14,460
discrimination. Indeed, they
many of them came back with

3048
03:03:14,460 --> 03:03:19,290
comments that the interviewer
had made, that they felt we're

3049
03:03:19,290 --> 03:03:23,580
referencing their facial
disfigurement. And this is why I

3050
03:03:23,580 --> 03:03:26,130
think this ideology of
victimhood is so dangerous

3051
03:03:26,130 --> 03:03:29,370
because if you preach to people
constantly that we're all

3052
03:03:29,370 --> 03:03:32,580
oppressed, then that Prime's
people to look for that

3053
03:03:33,990 --> 03:03:36,120
Adam Curry: wow, that's like a
mind bender.

3054
03:03:37,080 --> 03:03:38,040
John C Dvorak: Isn't that great?

3055
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:40,620
Adam Curry: That's a real my
well, you know, they should New

3056
03:03:40,620 --> 03:03:44,040
York will make a law and I'm
sorry, New York will make a law.

3057
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No, if you have a scar that you
cannot be discriminated against.

3058
03:03:49,620 --> 03:03:52,380
Just like there if you're fat
you cannot be discriminated

3059
03:03:52,380 --> 03:03:53,790
against they're gonna make a
law.

3060
03:03:54,300 --> 03:03:55,920
John C Dvorak: But they've been
pushing for that law in

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03:03:55,920 --> 03:03:59,610
California for a long time for
the benefit of people that have

3062
03:03:59,610 --> 03:04:05,670
a lot of facial tattoos and, and
screws in their nose.

3063
03:04:06,750 --> 03:04:08,880
Adam Curry: Your favorite your
favorite kind of person?

3064
03:04:09,510 --> 03:04:10,380
John C Dvorak: Those guys,

3065
03:04:11,130 --> 03:04:13,560
Adam Curry: we've got a classic
end of show mix for you the

3066
03:04:13,560 --> 03:04:19,470
robotic. I am expecting some end
of show mixes with our our

3067
03:04:19,470 --> 03:04:25,800
Nebraska representative, I would
expect some kind of snappy beat

3068
03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:31,740
to be mixed under that one. Just
a thought in case you're into

3069
03:04:31,740 --> 03:04:37,230
it. And we will return on
Thursday. Please support us. We

3070
03:04:37,230 --> 03:04:40,110
do need support from you.
Otherwise, we have to find other

3071
03:04:40,110 --> 03:04:43,410
things to do. Coming to you from
the heart of the Texas hill

3072
03:04:43,410 --> 03:04:46,020
country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,

3073
03:04:46,020 --> 03:04:47,580
everybody. I'm Adam curry

3074
03:04:47,700 --> 03:04:50,010
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I recommend

3075
03:04:50,010 --> 03:04:54,210
people go to nhk.com and watch
those sumo matches. And Jhansi

3076
03:04:54,210 --> 03:04:55,530
Dvorak we return

3077
03:04:55,530 --> 03:04:58,350
Adam Curry: on Thursday with
another minimum three hours of

3078
03:04:58,350 --> 03:05:03,330
deconstruction please remember
us at the vortech.org/na Until

3079
03:05:03,330 --> 03:05:06,120
then, adios mofos a hui who had
the

3080
03:05:19,529 --> 03:05:23,969
Unknown: blank blankets or water
just send your cash and people

3081
03:05:23,969 --> 03:05:30,299
want to send blankets or water
or cash we have a lot of people

3082
03:05:30,299 --> 03:05:33,359
want to send just

3083
03:05:36,390 --> 03:05:43,260
John C Dvorak: wasn't never
gonna meet the Meet was never

3084
03:05:43,260 --> 03:05:44,520
gonna meet the Meet

3085
03:05:50,790 --> 03:05:57,690
Unknown: barrels you're gonna
have to call their roles are

3086
03:05:57,690 --> 03:05:58,140
also

3087
03:06:07,350 --> 03:06:12,510
John C Dvorak: changing steering
committee or something for

3088
03:06:12,600 --> 03:06:21,360
giving advice he fell for it he
is going to meet the Pope it

3089
03:06:21,360 --> 03:06:30,150
turns out he wasn't never going
to meet the Pope actually he was

3090
03:06:30,150 --> 03:06:33,060
never the guy

3091
03:06:51,810 --> 03:06:55,110
Unknown: using vulgar language
President Trump today question

3092
03:06:55,110 --> 03:06:57,690
why the United States would
allow people from Haiti and

3093
03:06:57,720 --> 03:07:01,230
Africa into the country
describing those places using an

3094
03:07:01,230 --> 03:07:02,490
exponent of the president

3095
03:07:02,490 --> 03:07:05,790
said why are we having all these
people from shithole. shithole

3096
03:07:05,790 --> 03:07:05,970
get

3097
03:07:05,970 --> 03:07:08,550
John C Dvorak: home shithole
quote, excuse me shuffle

3098
03:07:08,550 --> 03:07:09,810
shithole countries?

3099
03:07:11,580 --> 03:07:13,380
Adam Curry: I wouldn't say that.
I don't think you should say

3100
03:07:13,380 --> 03:07:18,090
that. I'll say that. shithole
countries are the bad word.

3101
03:07:18,120 --> 03:07:20,400
Unknown: This is how some people
talk. The whole country is a

3102
03:07:20,400 --> 03:07:21,240
graceful no

3103
03:07:21,240 --> 03:07:22,620
shithole. shithole. Is

3104
03:07:22,620 --> 03:07:25,890
it a lie? Absolutely. Not.
shithole, shithole. shithole

3105
03:07:25,890 --> 03:07:26,700
country. I

3106
03:07:26,700 --> 03:07:27,870
just think it's offensive.

3107
03:07:27,900 --> 03:07:30,780
Of course it is all countries in
Africa are shithole. shithole

3108
03:07:30,780 --> 03:07:34,290
countries. This is a new low
racist, vulgar unAmerican. This

3109
03:07:34,290 --> 03:07:37,680
is a freak show. There's
shithole communities in America,

3110
03:07:37,710 --> 03:07:41,130
I'm a proud shithole people from
shithole countries, Donald Trump

3111
03:07:41,130 --> 03:07:45,390
has turned the Oval Office into
a shithole. Of course, it may

3112
03:07:45,390 --> 03:07:47,790
not be appropriate for some of
our younger viewers.

3113
03:07:48,450 --> 03:07:52,740
Here's what I've said. I've said
that we need the information, we

3114
03:07:52,740 --> 03:07:56,520
need to connect the dots and we
got to drill down, we've got to

3115
03:07:56,520 --> 03:08:00,720
connect the dots, get the facts,
connect the dots do everything

3116
03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:05,280
that I possibly can. To help
connect the dots I've said we've

3117
03:08:05,280 --> 03:08:09,540
got to connect the dots I've
always said if we connect the

3118
03:08:09,540 --> 03:08:13,050
dots, I believe that they should
have to connect the dots if

3119
03:08:13,290 --> 03:08:18,180
we're able to connect the dots
and if we determine the facts,

3120
03:08:18,330 --> 03:08:21,390
if the dots are coming
connected, let's get to the

3121
03:08:21,390 --> 03:08:24,840
bottom of it all. Let's see if
the dots connect

3122
03:08:27,180 --> 03:08:30,210
the US Pacific Command has
detected a missile threat to

3123
03:08:30,210 --> 03:08:34,500
Hawaii. A missile may impact on
land or sea within minutes. This

3124
03:08:34,500 --> 03:08:39,330
is not a drill. If you are
indoors, stay indoors. If you

3125
03:08:39,330 --> 03:08:42,960
are outdoors seek immediate
shelter in a building remain

3126
03:08:42,960 --> 03:08:46,950
indoors well away from windows.
If you are driving full safely

3127
03:08:46,950 --> 03:08:49,800
to the side of the road and seek
shelter in a building or lay on

3128
03:08:49,800 --> 03:08:53,370
the floor. We will announce when
the threat has ended. This is

3129
03:08:53,370 --> 03:09:02,310
not a drill take immediate
action measures the US Pacific

3130
03:09:02,310 --> 03:09:05,910
Command has detected a missile
threat to Hawaii a missile may

3131
03:09:05,910 --> 03:09:07,920
impact on land or sea within
minutes.

3132
03:09:08,190 --> 03:09:11,250
The sky is very bright all in a
very

3133
03:09:29,520 --> 03:09:30,690
yield

3134
03:09:40,170 --> 03:09:41,220
yield yield

3135
03:09:58,860 --> 03:10:04,680
Boruch dot org slash and thank
you thank you

