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Adam Curry: This Year Award winning give our nation media
assassination episode 1572. This is no agenda, marking up the DMZ
and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where our summer
has finally begun, at least for a day I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Our summer is hot one
John C Dvorak: is summer for months. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we have like 105 106 now Yeah, nice. Yeah, well, you
know, it's all climate change obviously. Hello.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. It's always been that way for the
last 100 years there's been climate change in Texas I'm
Adam Curry: a change its climate is climate change. Here's ABC
proving it to its its climate change. Most of
Unknown: California is seeing temperatures more than 15
degrees above normal. And Las Vegas could hit an all time
record of 118 degrees this weekend. Yeah, baby
Las Vegas. And this is kind of a nerdy thing that I'm always
interested in if Las Vegas passes 117, which is kind of
their cap that would break an all time record. I remember
being out at the National Weather Service in Las Vegas and
asking them why is it 117? Well, it looks like this Sunday, we
might even be able
to break that heat is the deadliest natural hazard in the
US, with an average of nearly 1400 additional deaths each year
due to more days over 90 degrees. And it's not just
rising temperatures on land. About 40% of the world's oceans
are experiencing a heatwave. Scientists say climate change is
also triggering more extreme rain events, which could be a
factor in this slow moving disaster unfolding in Southern
California. At least 12 homes are collapsing into a ravine in
rolling hills, and 16 others are at risk. State geologists tell
me that record rains this year have unleashed 1000s of
landslides. And it's often the biggest ones that take the
longest to form, which is why there's concern of additional
landslides here. In the coming months, scientists are also
taking a closer look at what they call underground climate
change in big cities. A new study found the land beneath
Chicago has warmed by more than five degrees in the past 70
years, causing the ground under buildings to swell and crack.
The effects of climate change proving to be expensive. Farmers
Insurance is now reducing coverage in Florida and
California due in part to extreme weather.
Adam Curry: I want to stay with California for a moment. That
thanks to being at.io was able to find the following clip from
no agenda episode one. I live in 86. because California has
always been a hellhole. If only it was a clip. It's there were
no clips. News article. Yes, it was the diary of the professor
and we think it was 1860 and he wrote that California he did not
understand how anyone could or would ever want to live there
because it is hell on earth with its mudslides. Its fires and
earthquakes. It's always been a hellhole always misses me again,
in 2020 Oh, this is me. I know well, it's only only 14 400
episodes ago. It's always been a hellhole. There's nothing new
it's documented DACA yes proof we had to clip as proof but as I
predicted,
John C Dvorak: we always had vigilantes too so there's no
Adam Curry: as I predicted just on the last show what are we
gonna get tonight
Unknown: a case of extreme turbulence over the US several
passengers on board in the Legion Airlines Flight were
injured when the plane was hit by severe turbulence plane
nearly full from Asheville, North Carolina to St. Pete
Clearwater airport in Florida. When pastor calling it
petrifying a flight attendant sent into the air, the injuries
are not like threatened sent
Adam Curry: into the air. Now again, the reason why this is
happening is in order to limit climate change to save on fuel,
instead of stepping down from level flight level to flight
level where you can comfortably
John C Dvorak: just avoid the turbulence which was known where
it is.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's it's called PI reps the pilots
report. Hey, we got some chop here at this at this level.
Okay, we'll send everybody a little bit higher. No, we can't
do that. We have to idle the engines and glide all the way
down.
Unknown: It was a frightening scene this afternoon for
passengers and crew on a legion two to seven. The flight from
Asheville to St. Petersburg Clearwater was in descent. When
per flight aware the plane dropped more than 4000 feet in
less than a minute. We have two passengers and two flight
attendants were taken to the hospital. 179 passengers and six
crew are on board. One passenger told our Tampa affiliates she
saw a flight attendant being thrown around the cabin,
all of us and then we hit
major turbulence
where literally, she flew up in the air like matrix is the only
way I can think
this is at least the third incident in recent months
involving serious injuries. And tonight the airline tells us it
will be investigating this incident in coordination with
the NTSB and the FAA. Nora. That is some scary turbulence meeting
Marquez. Thank you.
Adam Curry: So let's get into this climate change turbulence.
John C Dvorak: Before we do that, let's make mention of the
fact that this new FAA dude doesn't have a pilot's license
never flown doesn't fly much. Is a bonehead doesn't know anything
about the business. Oh, well, who cares?
Adam Curry: It's body armor. Remember
John C Dvorak: back in the old days, Pac Man magazine. Okay,
here we go. You couldn't get a job at PC Magazine. Unless you
were a computer hobbyist. You knew something you had to have a
package and I was always told well, you know, we do this
because all the you know, the flight all these different air,
air as magazines about flying I think flying was one of Yeah,
which was a Ziff Davis magazine for a while he boys put ing at
the end of his Well, this was the whole Ziff Davis and you
could not be it. You couldn't write for that place. You
couldn't be an editor.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course.
John C Dvorak: You have to know something to be in the business.
Adam Curry: Let's go to CBS. And let's talk to an expert on
climate change. And intro last
Unknown: week, so four days of record temperatures, and this
week is expected to be even hotter. We now want to welcome
to the program. Kate Calvin, NASA's chief scientist and
senior climate advisor. Good morning. Good morning.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you already know from that voice, it's gonna
be a good one. The chief climate adviser. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Moody. Here we go.
Unknown: I'm excited to be able to ask you some of these
questions. I think a lot of
Adam Curry: why is she laughing? Why cuz she's
John C Dvorak: excited.
Unknown: And excited to be able to ask you some of these
questions that I think a lot of people are wondering, this
Adam Curry: is just odd. Is she really excited to talk to the
NASA climate advisor or she excited because it's bull crap.
John C Dvorak: What do you think? Maybe she's maybe She's
flirting with. You saw that you saw the two of them
Unknown: super cute. Able to ask you some
Adam Curry: questions. She's an advisor. Yeah, advisors are
never ugly. Have you noticed this? Just to pay attention,
please do.
Unknown: I'm excited to be able to ask you some of these
questions. A lot of people are wondering this week in
particular, it's
Adam Curry: almost like the Bandcamp. Girl.
Unknown: Why is the weather so extreme?
Adam Curry: Wow, this this is an in depth interview. Ladies and
gentlemen. We're going we're going straight to the
John C Dvorak: second. I know where it was this.
Adam Curry: This is CBS.
John C Dvorak: CBS, the network. Yes, yeah. Okay.
Unknown: In particular.
Adam Curry: Why Face the Nation to be exact? Oh, Lord, Laura,
not just any old show. I mean, this is this is the big show.
They
John C Dvorak: say she's the she's the Hillary look alike.
You know, and during the gates when I mentioned this,
everybody, so we were reminded, okay, Laura Brennan, who does
that show currently, Margaret, Margaret, Margaret Brennan and
Laura. Laura.
Adam Curry: From now on. She's Laura Brennan, Brenda go, Laura.
John C Dvorak: Margaret Brennan, who does this show and during
the COVID era, when she was working out of her house. They
interviewed her just casually for something and she had the
clip a hair clip on and and a hair done a certain way. She
looked in her house and her normal environment. She is a
dead ringer for Hillary
Adam Curry: in her younger years in her younger No, this was
during COVID This is like no, I mean, Hillary and her younger
years. Hillary's got Margaret.
John C Dvorak: Not current Hillary No. Oh, nobody looks at
old Hillary. All right, here we go.
Unknown: In particular. Why is the weather so extreme? Can you
explain that for non scientists?
Adam Curry: Oh, for Nancy Jones. It's us. Here you go. She's
explaining it for us. Yeah, so
Unknown: climate change is driving increases in temperature
overall. We also have natural cycles that affect temperature.
And so the one you're hearing the most about in the news is El
Nino or La Nina. So El Nino years tend to be warmer than La
Nina 2022 was a lot Nino year was actually the warmest La Nina
year we've ever had. It was tied for fifth warmest overall, we're
now moving into El Nino. So the combination of climate change
and El Nino means we're seeing higher global temperatures and
that brings with it impacts all around the world to people
ECOSYS downs, extreme events and other changes that are that were
impacting communities. Now do you
Adam Curry: feel she explained, explained? Well, what happened
here?
John C Dvorak: Didn't say anything? No, she
Adam Curry: just said El Nino Nina Nina Nina brew
Unknown: going apertures going up. So ocean temperatures are
rising, as I understand it. And that,
Adam Curry: as I understand it, there's no evidence of this
ocean temperatures are rising. They're just making that up
factors into
Unknown: this, can you understand that
oceans absorb a lot of heat. And so you're seeing increases in
ocean temperature. When we identify El Nino, it's based on
ocean temperatures in a particular part of the Pacific.
But the thing to keep in mind is you know, oceans are actually
land is warming faster than oceans. So the places where we
live are warming faster than the ocean. So while we are seeing
these increases in ocean temperatures, we're also seeing
increases in temperature over land, again,
Adam Curry: no explanation to just say, Yeah, ocean
temperatures, right, but land temperatures rising faster. Who
cares? That's not an answer. This is explain what's
happening. It's just saying stuff. Let's get to something I
do I know something about which is about the FAA. The
journalists turbulence. Yes. You know, so again, in order to and
this is not just is FAA, it's the airlines as well, they don't
care about you. Enjoy your bumpy ride down. Yeah. We're saving
gas here, people, which the airlines love that. They love
John C Dvorak: them if they can get in any excuse to save some
cashiers money in the bank. And so bottom line, they could
actually
Adam Curry: charge more for the airline. That gives you a matrix
experience. But now, they haven't figured that one out
yet. Let's talk about the severe turbulence. So
Unknown: NASA has been doing these reports or you're
crunching some of the data,
Adam Curry: John, she's crunching some of the data,
crunching, crunching, crunching the data, not just like not just
crunching
John C Dvorak: writing on her stomach, and then doing it.
Adam Curry: We're like cereal crunching so
Unknown: NASA has been doing these reports where you're
crunching some of the data to understand how to plan going
forward. I was looking at one of them. It says there's going to
be severe turbulence with airlines over large regions of
the Northern Hemisphere. Are we already seeing that? And why
would that happen?
So we are experiencing impacts of climate change everywhere
around the world. Right now. There's different impacts in
different regions, I think what's important to keep in mind
is that climate change is more than just temperature. It's also
affecting things like the water cycle. So we're seeing more
heavy precipitation events, more droughts. We're seeing increases
in extreme events like storms. And we can see those and those
impact how we travel, human health, agriculture, and all
aspects of our lives.
Adam Curry: Answer the question. She said nothing about
turbulence. Oh, no, it's impacting us. It's just it's
everything, you know, everything but she didn't answer the
turbulence question. What let's try again with the planes,
planes, you moron. I asked about the planes with the
Unknown: planes it How certain are you that this will happen?
Or is it already happening?
So there's studies that indicate that you can see increases in
turbulence linked to climate change, and NASA some of what we
do around the aircraft. We have a large aeronautics research
team, but we're looking, we look a lot at how transportation
affects climate. So not just climate, affecting
transportation, but also how it affects it. And so we do a lot
of research into making planes more efficient. So they use less
energy and generate less emissions and contribute less to
warming in the future
Adam Curry: by making them coast down. She did not answer the
question is not answered a single question. This woman.
John C Dvorak: I think this is the only show that has the
answer to that question.
Adam Curry: Yes. And we and we got it straight from the
aviation community. All right. No, it's not just air
transportation. Oh, no. Climate change is impacting every kind
of transportation. So
Unknown: there are also transportation issues along the
Mississippi River mentioned in there, oh, four cargo shipments
of turbulence.
Adam Curry: Turbulence on the Mississippi polls,
Unknown: how do industries who have to plan ahead and
businesses that have to plan ahead take this into account?
How prepared are
Adam Curry: we they do.
Unknown: So one of the things that we work on is trying to
make sure people have access to the information that can support
planning. So for river flow, we actually launched a satellite in
December, called swamps, the first global survey of water
running through rivers and lakes. So we want to see how
much water is running through those rivers, and how that
changes over time. And that kind of information can be used to
better plan in the future.
Adam Curry: She just sold a service but she didn't explain
why the transportation is affected on the Mississippi
River, we still don't know what's happening.
Unknown: And so NASA would share that
sell it all of our data is publicly available. And one of
the things we're working on now is making it easier to use so
that you don't have to process raw satellite data. We give you
an indicator that you can interpret using your planning.
As an example, we have a tool that's designed for farmers that
understand how much water their fields are using.
Adam Curry: Hold on What's this up tag is great farmers how much
field about ideas and indicators
Unknown: that you can interpret and use in your planning. So as
an example, we have a tool that's designed for farmers that
helps them understand how much water their fields are losing,
so they can better plan they're
Adam Curry: losing, losing, losing. All right, maybe the
next question, we'll get some actual answers. How is climate
change really affecting us? And can you explain why
Unknown: NASA also put out a report in May that says climate
change is contributing to rise in Lyme disease, possibly, more
mosquito borne illnesses as well? Seasonal allergies are
getting worse. I know plenty of people who are complaining about
their allergies these past few weeks, my us because their
immune systems are shot from the vaccine eyes were watering. But
how concerned do people need to be?
So there are a lot of effects of climate change on health. So in
terms of mosquitoes and other diseases that are carried by
insects, malaria,
Adam Curry: let's see if she explains it, what the climate
what
Unknown: climate change can do is change where the geographic
extent of those species so you know, mosquitoes need hot
conditions, they need water to breed. And so what climate
change can can do is change that extent. So that we see in places
where you have malaria, it could shift more northern latitudes
are higher altitudes. But there's other effects of climate
change. You mentioned pollen. One of the things that we saw
here in the northeast of the US recently was about wildfire
smoke. So there are wildfires burning in Canada and the smoke
from that came into the US and that's from climate change and
lead to air quality concerns all across the northeastern
Adam Curry: fires in in Canada, we're not from climate change
that fires. stuff doesn't self ignite from climate change is so
hot, it's just it's supposed igniting now, some of them were
set intentionally. Some of them were the always fires burning.
It's a little bit more this year, but Okay,
John C Dvorak: can I get off a sidetrack, surely quick since it
was mentioned. Yes. I'm now of the opinion that Lyme disease is
a created product from the germ warfare center that was running
at a Plum Island look it up. And is because that's where the Lyme
disease started floating around that area because I tick escaped
from the lab. The labs take his game theory Am I
Adam Curry: left New York right near New York. Yeah. Well,
that's interesting.
John C Dvorak: You got to stop doing this work.
Adam Curry: No, no man is the ancient micro organisms that are
coming back to life. But some
Unknown: of it sounds like a science fiction movie. In terms
of fear. There's something in here about frozen Arctic soils,
unleashing ancient micro organisms.
Adam Curry: Here, here's here's the money shot baby
Unknown: hasn't happened yet.
So far north of the of the world, the soil store a lot of
carbon and there's nothing and underground. And so as that
thaws, scientists are expect that you would see some more
emissions associated with it. So that as you warm, you couldn't
trigger more emissions. And that's what's driving the
warming that we're seeing now is greenhouse gas emissions. So
things that affect those emissions will affect my
Linda, what she's taught, you're gonna continue to make this
publicly available.
All of our data is publicly available, we continue to add to
it so we are able to observe more about the planet and help
people better prepare for the future. Well,
John C Dvorak: they should make her publicly available
Adam Curry: for download for crunching you know, the kids are
leaving for Austin today. So they've been here for they're
almost two weeks. It's been great visit and they're gonna
spend two days in Austin before they fly back to Rotterdam. And
I've learned so I've learned so much from them. And it kind of
ended written this this millennial here this triggers me
she might even be a Gen Z. I'm not sure. It feels like
something broke like Biden nomics is what it would be
called but like the depression is hitting four of their friends
have lost their jobs. We know multiple millennials who have
all of a sudden they're losing their jobs, be a bicycle
companies going broke and all kinds of things just happening.
John C Dvorak: They're closing the Anchor Steam beer company in
San Francisco,
Adam Curry: Disney World is almost empty.
Unknown: who tend to go
Adam Curry: yes, time to go see
John C Dvorak: that. It's an opportunity we've got
Adam Curry: we've got the teamsters talking about
striking. But probably the one that I'm most excited about is
the actors if
John C Dvorak: this got this afternoon now
Adam Curry: this is where I'm going to play the clip
Unknown: if this dispute just goes ahead, it does go ahead if
the actors do go on strike it will make look the writers
strike really look like a walk in the park. Let me just give
you a few numbers to compare. The Writers Guild of America has
about 11,000 members and then going on strike was already
enough to shut down about 80% of all productions in the film. In
TV industry the sag AFTRA union, which represents mostly actors,
but not only they also represent broadcast journalists, stunt
performers, DJs, well, they have about 160,000 members. So
really, if they do end up going on strike, we would see
essentially just a total shutdown of the film and TV
industry, the only productions that wouldn't be affected would
be those involving non unionized actors. Let me give you a few
consequences. Just by using two big examples we mentioned right
now the Barbie movie. We've also got the Oppenheimer movie The
both very big movie is expected to be released here on July 21.
In the United States. Well, we all know that advertising and
promotion are very important than last few days in the first
few days before and after a release. And if the actors do go
on strike tonight at midnight, which is the deadline Well, we
can expect actors to be banned from taking part in press
junkets fan events premieres, they will not be expected to go
to the San Diego Comic Con 10 days from now with where many
actors are supposed to appear. And most surprisingly, perhaps
in this day and age is that many of these actors will not be
allowed to advertise their own movies on their own social media
cues. And looking farther ahead of course, it could already
we've already seen some pretty significant effects on the fall
TV season, which begins usually about mid September here in the
US. Well, of course, if the actors do end up going on
strike, we will be increasingly chances to increasing chances
rather of looking at much shorter TV season TV seasons,
with shorter with a smaller number of episodes for the
upcoming TV season.
John C Dvorak: When I was a kid that just season it was 35
episodes and some of the shows ran an hour and a half.
Adam Curry: So I'm very shorter.
John C Dvorak: I'm very sorry the show's run 10 episodes is
the season
Adam Curry: I'm really sorry for the for the actors and you know,
but Hollywood and five M is broken. I would recommend that
you cancel your Netflix cancel your Disney plus cancel your
Hulu cancel all to cancel your cable if you haven't already,
and support podcast podcast. We're not striking. We don't
strike we bring quality entertainment six hours a week.
That's half a season. By summer count, it's Tuesday and yes
John C Dvorak: it's one week of our shows as a half a season.
Most of the he's so called series. Exactly.
Adam Curry: So you know is and
John C Dvorak: and by the way is anybody think it might not be a
coincidence that they're doing this? They're gonna let them
strike? Because the Barbie movie which if you think about it is
probably a turkey. Well, it's a hammer looks boring, and they're
already thinking is going to be kind of like a dog. Yeah,
they're promoting the hell out of it. I mean, the Tom Cruise
wanted to get his movie out on the fourth, knowing that this
was going to come down and get at least get some money.
Adam Curry: The other theaters might close. Yeah, that the
theaters could actually close, which is exactly what they want.
Because sound of freedom has to be suppressed at all cost.
John C Dvorak: All right, wishes we switch gears. Good one. Thank
you. I sound of freedom. So I have one clip about it. I know.
Because the i but there's plenty of clips and they're on. They're
mostly on tick tock, but they're also a lot of them on Instagram.
This is the woman this is the woman who it does lives of tick
tock. Yes. I've been reading stories saying well, I don't
know it's a bunch of bull crap is exaggerated, that they're
turning down to air conditioning. And they're doing
this and AMC movie chain in particular doesn't want to show
the movie. So there must because they got a bunch of lefties
doing this review. Let's
Adam Curry: just review. This is the movie based on based on a
true story. And there's actually there's an operation Underground
Railroad is the is the documentary you want to see
includes the reel I put in the show notes includes the real
guy. And, and it's not. It's not dramatize it's actual footage of
these rescues. And the mainstream for whatever reason,
immediately. And I think it's I mean, a lot of people will say
oh, yeah, because you know, they're all Adrenochrome junkies
out maybe, but more likely is we have to get people to see their
crap like the dumb Barbie movie, and you can't be spending your
money on something that might be counterproductive to everything
they are there about.
John C Dvorak: Especially when the joke of it is I don't know
there was a South Park incident about this go. I didn't know
this word. Mickey Mouse comes in and beats the crap out of a
couple of guys who, especially the guy who thought they had
this movie Disney owned this movie three years ago, I think
right? And they said, then they shelved it. That was a lot that
happens a lot with Yeah, it does. But this shell the movie
that then becomes a hit is embarrassing.
Adam Curry: Yes. Especially since it was a bunch of Jesus
freaks who got it distributed. Big problem.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I think the Jesus Rick's getting it
distributed probably had a lot to do with trying to suppress
Rolling Stone all these other guys. But so did did latest
news. You see, even though nobody's got any witnesses, they
say no, none of this is going on. There's fine. I'm always
being played left and right. So the clip I have is a credible
source, as far as I'm concerned is that woman that runs lives of
tick tock Chaya, whatever her name is, she's believable. Yep,
credible, and everything in between. And here's what
happened to her.
Unknown: Hi, Brian. stau. Last night, I went to watch the sound
or freedom movie. And it's very interesting, because CNN and
Rollingstone and Washington Post and The Guardian, they were all
publishing articles about how the movie is like related to Q
anon and conspiracy theories. So that alo told me that this is
something that they don't want you to watch, which is why you
should definitely go watch it. Additionally, I also saw some
reporting of people who were saying that weird things were
happening when they were trying to go see it in theaters, like
the air conditioning wasn't working, or their tickets were
canceled. And when I went a couple minutes into the movie,
the fire alarm went off, the entire building had to evacuate.
And about 1520 minutes later, it was resolved. And we're able to
go back in and resume the movie. But it was we were missing half
the audience now. But I did stay until the end. And the movie is
excellent. It was educational, and inspiring and eye opening. I
was not even aware of the extent of the child sex trafficking
industry until I watched this. The US is in the top three
countries. For destinations for sale. Child sites, trafficking
by stem are number one. It's a $150 billion a year industry.
And there are millions 10s of millions of children who are
currently trapped in sex slavery. So it is it's heart
wrenching. There are people in the audience who were moved to
tears and really inspiring to because at the end, I know for
myself, I left and I was like, What can I do to help raise
awareness about this? What can I do to help these children? So
I'm passing on the message. I hope you do too. Go see the
movie, it's a must watch. Bring your family, bring your friend,
tell everyone you know, go watch down their freedom, something
has to be done about it something really drastic.
Adam Curry: I'm going Saturday, and it will be an AMC theater.
So it'd be fun to see what happened.
John C Dvorak: You may have a story to tell because everyone
knows the AMC Theaters do air conditioning stories domain one
they've got to play so hot, so unbearable.
Adam Curry: Now, I will say in addition to that, that it was
106 degrees in Texas Air Conditioning does
John C Dvorak: go it's gonna be a problem anywhere else. Okay,
Adam Curry: I'm just saying it does break down stuff does
happen. But the Grand Duke David Foley has been sending me tick
tock after tick tock of these reports. And it wasn't until you
had the the lives of tick tock lady that said, Okay, this is a
good report. And I'm glad you clip that I've just been seeing
it. Like yeah, I mean, you know how these things go because oh,
this is wrong, but doing all the stuff that are trying to
suppress it. But it really does seem like it and especially if
you take into account the the articles that we've been we've
been reading? Well, it's just a bunch of Naja, who's
John C Dvorak: they is the question in my mind. Who at the
Rolling Stone in The Guardian, and all these places? What would
what's the bone they got to pick what is who's behind this? Who's
pulling the strings.
Adam Curry: Now, it's just one of those things that that The
New Yorker, well, actually the New York Times was reasonably
fair, not a very long review, but they just had kind of a you
know, it's not all that great. It's a confluence of things and
then you can you know, how these these news desk news rooms work
and how editors are and they're dipshits and it's our
John C Dvorak: editor in chief, they usually are
Adam Curry: all politically now they're just all political,
political, political. Alright, so now here's another story that
I've really we haven't focused that much on and this is excess
deaths. And I've been following in the UK, the UK, it's a real
story. It's mainstream. And of course, it's yes,
John C Dvorak: they Yes, because they are very open with their
numbers.
Adam Curry: And it's an it's obviously it's not from the
vaccine, of course, it's from COVID. Alright, it's COVID not
from the vaccine. It's from COVID. Although interesting to
see store He's a pop up that apparently Pfizer actually sent
a lot of doses to the EU that were placebos about 30%. And,
and there's questions, there's no answers. And, you know, so
the yellow has
John C Dvorak: been actually documented. I've heard this
story too.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's Let me see who document handle if true?
Well, and the question is, why is it a because they were still
testing stuff on people? Or is it because
John C Dvorak: if you're gonna do a real test, and you're not
going to do a, you know, the normal test the way you're
supposed to, and you're going to test it on the public itself,
you have to use placebos. But But vaccinate your numbers back,
but then then you'd have to admit you did that. And this is
like, a, like, a liability issue.
Adam Curry: Well, no vaccines in the US are tested with placebos.
This is, this is one of Bobby The Kay's main, main gripes
about it. Not a single vaccine needs to be tested in the United
States, in a placebo trial, it's just that you don't need to do
it, so they don't do it. Now, there's, I put a lot of articles
in in the show notes, which is handy to have and a show
notes.com. But the one that really got me is his article in
the Forex ground in the Netherlands. And the forest
ground is very left wing, but very intellectual newspaper. I
mean, if you don't read the telegraph, if you read the full
of Scrubs,
John C Dvorak: but it sounds like the flu, if I was just
listening, I'd say the name of the newspapers the fools grunt.
Adam Curry: It's it's the folk the newspaper of the people. The
fool looks good on people's people's world. And so they talk
about a the government you know, they did their annual budget of
course, you know, the government will have to talk about the
Dutch government obviously the cabinet fell and now Mark rota
is he's he's leaving politics altogether, which is another
interesting thing. But the the governor was really happy
because they actually were able to make the budget kind of work
this year and the folks are right it was good luck. And the
good luck was the the Ministry of Education had a 490 million
euro lucky break see plus not surplus but it was a break so
you know, there's never a surplus anywhere but hey, you
know, we had an extra 490 million euros because less less
students will be attending school and they also had 270
million euro lucky break because there'll be less social security
payments because of and I quote the fulcrum mysterious excess
deaths so the government is now
John C Dvorak: saying you're reading right from it says
mysterious excess death to
Adam Curry: mystery owes overstaffed at the Oak not
Corona Blythe on Howden. You heard the mystery Oza
overstaffed of mystery? Oh, some mysterious Yeah, overstaffed the
excess over death excess deaths. This now now it's true. So this
is a real thing. And it's happening everywhere. And of
course, it's from COVID is not from the vaccine at all. But if
we listen to people who guaranteed have been quadruple
if not quintuple boosted, you gotta kind of question stuff. So
Unknown: the pandemic officially ended earlier this year. And for
most people, life is back to normal, but not for Dr. Michael
Osterholm, the expert at the University of Minnesota became a
household name during every stage of the pandemic.
Investigative reporter Ryan race went to find out what he's doing
now that the biggest health crisis of our lifetime is over.
Are you eating in a restaurant now and able to relax?
Well, unfortunately I am. And I say unfortunately, in that I
recently had COVID.
Three years into the pandemic and Minnesota his most famous
infectious disease doctor finally became a statistic in
March, Dr. Michael Osterholm, not only got COVID for the first
time, but it's now suffering from long COVID It's been
a difficult few months. So I I'm feeling it I can't do many of
the athletic things I did before.
Oh Osterholm is the longtime director of the Center for
Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of
Minnesota. He also worked for the State Department of Health
and the CDC. But during the pandemic, his projections and
downright scary predictions earned him the nickname Dr.
Doom.
Adam Curry: So this guy has long COVID He sounds horrible. He has
trouble breathing. He can't do quote athletic exercises. He's a
on death's door, and you know that he he's the guy that was
just Vax Bags, Bags, Bags, Bags, Bags.
John C Dvorak: Did they ever find out how many times he got
the jab?
Adam Curry: I don't have that information. But now Now I'm by
the way,
John C Dvorak: this clip of the day off advance on this guy.
This guy was one of the worst of the of the bad actors out there,
he would
Adam Curry: have a million millions of dead Dez millions,
millions and America's soon, but now I'm thinking there's
something else up now. This is a complete conspiracy theory of my
own. Oh, here we go. And I'm going to play a clip from Time
magazine. Because what so what if we have people dying left and
right, and we have to explain it somehow. We can't I mean, it'd
be great to say, Hey, we got a huge benefit in Social Security,
everybody, because people are dead. So there's more for the
people who are living. That's nothing
John C Dvorak: you should Oh, get more tell you that.
Adam Curry: There's less pupils per per teacher? What a what a
what a great benefit. So now, we know that this is not because of
COVID. And the reason why is because countries that did
nothing as recommended. No, actually, let me I want to let's
just this is a short clip. So I'll just play this, just so you
understand. It's Bobby The K on waters
Unknown: and you think Fauci is the devil, do you? Would you
prosecute him if you ever got to the White House?
Adam Curry: I mean, if if there were crimes that he committed,
of course, we would, you know, the I would tell the attorney
general, a prosecutor might not hold off.
Unknown: Do I think that he committed crimes? I think he
caused a lot of injury. I think that
Adam Curry: he particularly by withholding early treatment from
Americans, you know, we racked up the highest F count in the
world. We only have 4.2% of the globe's population, but we had
16% of the COVID deaths in this country. And that is, that was
from bad policy. There's countries that did the opposite
of what we did that provided ivermectin hydroxychloroquine
other early treatments to their populations, and had one to
hundreds of our death rate. So there are many, many things that
we did wrong in this country. And, and some of those were, I
would say knowing knowingly at some of the things that were
done by public health officials that time that they knew that
they would be harmful to Now, besides the fact that we know
from the actual people who instruct ventilator operators
that the protocol was killing people and was a known death
protocol. ivermectin hydroxychloroquine were deemed
insane crazy horse pace can't push it no good because it by by
regulation I don't wanna say by law but by regulation despite
John C Dvorak: them by edict Yes, despite the fact that
ivermectin as a generalized a product which was antiviral anti
worm Yeah. Anti parasite it had in won a Nobel Prize and as
required to be in all the medical packs at the UN gives
out for you know, third world countries one of the greatest
products in recent histories you know, as a generalized cool
thing. It's astonishing to me that they pulled this off
Adam Curry: so in in addition to that, by edict as you said, or
by regulation, you cannot mandate on your emergency use
authorization of vaccine if there are treatments so that's
why it had to be demonized because this is this is not a
stretch at this point to believe
John C Dvorak: this as is obvious. Cancer and we've
discussed this a million times
Adam Curry: cancer is exploding everywhere in the world. Funny
enough if you look in the United States in the Lancaster
Pennsylvania area where the Dutch arm with Amish live, who
have no vaccine Certainly not COVID No one died one guy this
there's word that maybe five died but there's really only one
good one and we're not sure that that one guy acts right
John C Dvorak: if the one guy they still get those sketchy
Adam Curry: now in in the UK, just I'm just beginning to get
to this board. I think it might be going on here in the UK. They
had this huge scandal scandal I tell you, because apparently,
some BBC presenter was buying naked pictures from a 17 year
old boy.
John C Dvorak: Identify the guy finally.
Adam Curry: Yes, they identified him and his his wife actually
identified him and said he's in the hospital for severe mental
issues pay no attention. But what is going on simultaneously?
He's the COVID inquiry. This is not headline news in the UK,
where it's coming out now. The lockdowns were wrong, everything
was wrong. The numbers were wrong. They are pretty
transparent in the UK with the numbers, but what do they do
just put some gay thing Oh, gay boy something put it on the for
everyone's talking about that. Even though this news was known
for months, it's not like new news. Okay, so if you have all
this going on, and we have people dying, and idiot
podcasters are going to start asking questions like what could
be going on here?
John C Dvorak: And by the way, the term turbo cancer has
cropped up
Adam Curry: how I hadn't even heard that turbo turbo can turbo
cancer. Well enter what I think is the perfect solution. It will
identify demons who are responsible for cancer and for
death and listen to this is a really shit report from Time
magazine, but okay, their print publication but they have a
video with a guy just reading you know, and you can hear him
swallowing and moist and it's horrible.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But thanks for the setup. I think
Adam Curry: this is what's going to be used as an excuse and
we've been tracking it and it's been cropping up more and more
in the past couple of weeks.
Unknown: If you're like 97% of Americans, including newborns,
your blood is contaminated with a P F A S for pee fast. That's
very bad news.
Adam Curry: So I think and you'll hear this in a moment
they are going to blame turbo cancer excess deaths on pee fast
and they're going to and this will be a huge bonanza for
lawyers.
John C Dvorak: Oh this this is also good has to be part of this
forever chemicals
Adam Curry: that's what this is P fast is the Forever cat Okay,
here we go. Here we go.
Unknown: First developed in the 1940s P fast which stands for
per and poly fluoro alkyl substances have grown into a
class of more than 12,000 chemicals used in 1000s of
products from food packaging to clothing, shoes, firefighting,
foam, cosmetics, contact lenses, wall paint, toilet paper,
cookware, and even feminine hygiene products.
Adam Curry: There's no There's no escaping no one can escape
these forever chemicals. No one can escape them because they're
everywhere. Oil,
Unknown: oceans, lakes streams and the rain itself Ray mold
contaminated with pee fast. The exposure to certain levels of
the chemicals have been linked by the Environmental Protection
Agency to a long list of health effects.
Adam Curry: Okay, now let's evaluate these health effects.
Let's see if there's any slight overlap with I don't know
vaccine adverse events,
Unknown: including decreased fertility, high blood pressure
and pregnant people. increased risk of certain cancers,
developmental delays and low birth weight and children
hormonal disruption, high cholesterol reduce the
effectiveness of the immune system and more.
Adam Curry: sounds the same to me.
Unknown: The natural impulse to news like this is to say that
somebody should pay for felling the planet found these
Adam Curry: let's go get him let's let's let's point to a
villain who
Unknown: badly now a number of somebodies are pain indeed. In
early June 2023 du Pont and its spin offs, shim wars and cortiva
leading PFS manufacturers by
Adam Curry: the way, this is a very typical thing to do and
they do it in the medical industry that's what Pfizer does
it do it in the chemical industry. The DuPont will be
fine if they're gonna have these little entities that are the
front companies they get sued out of existence. And DuPont
will be fine. That's why they have the so called spin offs.
Yeah, it's a spin offs. Yeah, let's get those guys
Unknown: in early June 2023 du Pont and it's spin offs shim
Moore's and cortiva. Leading PFS manufacturers got out from under
a little bit of the civil litigation that has been brought
against them reaching a $1.185 billion settlement with 300
local water system Tim was that had sued the company for the
costs of cleaning and filtering their wells and aquifers. Three
weeks later, three M, another major P fast maker reached a
much larger $10.3 million settlement with 300 different
water providers. But those agreements cover only a tiny
fraction of the 15,000 lawsuits brought against those four
companies. And a handful of others smaller pee fast makers
filed by state attorneys, general water systems and
individual plaintiffs.
Adam Curry: So it's a 17 minute video that I wouldn't want
anyone to have to sit through. But this is a such a multiple
Whammy, because we're getting huge lawsuits, huge payoffs. And
slaves, you'll be able to get a little something, you know, you
could get 10 bucks and some class action lawsuit. But also,
they have you know, there's now these I think we played on the
last show, there's ways to fix the water. So they're going to
do a complete takeover of your water. By God knows who doing
God knows what. And I think this this is the plan. The plan is,
look, I remember look, I remember, look, Teflon growing
up in the Netherlands Oh, no Teflon is gonna kill you. You're
gonna die. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that was that was here too, by the way, of course.
Adam Curry: But I grew up in Holland, not here. And Teflon.
Teflon was always going to kill us hasn't happened. I'm still
here. While I don't doubt that there's harmful chemicals, this
is too vast. They're just throwing everything into one big
bucket and saying it's all pee fast. It's all and we have a
handy little reminder forever chemicals. It's in the rain. You
someone must pay.
John C Dvorak: We haven't heard gets in the rain.
Adam Curry: Climate change? I don't know. But this I think
this is what they're going to blame everything on. You have a
good idea. I mean,
John C Dvorak: granted, I'm not going to argue that it's not
going to be what they're going to try to do. Yeah, it does does
definitely take the focus off the COVID thing which is
Unknown: slowly really an issue.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's an issue that is going to it's
going to take care of itself.
Adam Curry: Well, let me just remind you from the last show
this this water treatment, we because of course we have
problem reaction solution.
Unknown: There's a disturbing new study out today about the
nation's drinking water. Researchers found that nearly
half of the tap water in this country contains potentially
harmful compounds usually known as forever chemicals. They're
linked to a wide range of health problems including cancer, high
blood pressure and fertility issues. CBS is marching through
Notre
Adam Curry: Dame surgery of course, of course it's a script.
John C Dvorak: What are those three because those are the
three there everyone's gonna repeat fertility
Adam Curry: issues, high blood listlessness, and again,
Unknown: of course, they're linked to a wide range of health
problems including cancer, high blood pressure and fertility,
cancer,
Adam Curry: high blood pressure and fertility. This person's
Unknown: CVS is Mark Strassman takes it in your blood in depth
John C Dvorak: forgot about the fact that the COVID vaccine
would it would lead to didn't do it correctly if we go and go
right to your nuts new technology that yeah, it was
also given women weird periods like months on end Yes, and
Adam Curry: clots in your blood and all kinds of horrible
things. Yes, horrible. Now listen to this dash all
forgotten.
Unknown: That could make so called Forever chemicals
disappear.
Nasty cargo 10,000 gallons of landfill water laced with pee
fast, a known carcinogen that nothing could get rid of. Until
now
we're concentrating the Annihilator system to treat it.
Treat PFS blast them out of existence. These so called
Forever chemicals are manmade used in Teflon firefighting
foam, even facial makeup
Adam Curry: lines back Teflon. Yeah, Teflon. It's Teflon. The
big one, that firefighting foam is the real one. This is the one
that's been going on for quite a while they have had many
lawsuits of firefighters, particularly military who use
the foam for practicing for runway incursions, stuff like
that, that that has been successfully litigated over and
over and over again and people have this is before COVID Even
the firefighting foam is the one in there that I know is probably
true
Unknown: wherever chemicals are manmade, used in Teflon,
firefighting foam, even facial makeup and previously
indestructible.
This is where the PDFs go. That's correct.
Last year we showed you Battelle, a nonprofit research
institute doing this Small Scale field test distilling water into
pee fast concentrate
yeah
John C Dvorak: yeah what makes it indestructible indestructible
it's like it's indestructible but they can burn it but it's
indestructible they
Adam Curry: can blow it make any lasting they get blasted Well
the point is you need to hire this company to blow Yeah,
that's
John C Dvorak: right we played this last show and it's a net we
decided it was a native ad. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I want to finish it Are you good? I'm good.
John C Dvorak: I think you're onto something. Yeah, gotta
blame everything Yeah, that's where you got to do something
because this COVID thing is it's like getting in you'd like you
mentioned there's starting to investigate now and there was
some investigation going on in Washington that had something to
do with this and it was just taken nobody was gonna play it
on the the news stations that get a clip I'm not sure I've got
Adam Curry: I've got people texting me emailing me say oh,
yeah, this this. This blasting the water is big. It's in order.
They're talking about an RF come in our community in our county.
It's a moneymaker a huge moneymaker to everybody scores.
Everybody's scores, except us stupid.
John C Dvorak: We're there's gotta be some filtering
technology that works on this stuff. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm happy I have my own well.
John C Dvorak: Now why? Well, well, well, while
Adam Curry: I'm on a roll. What was billed as our stupid,
idiotic vice president was actually hugely eye opening. By
really enjoyed what Vice President Kamala Harris had to
say about AI. You saw this clip going around? I have
John C Dvorak: the clip. I haven't had a short clip it a
long clip. I have
Adam Curry: minus 40 seconds. How long is yours?
John C Dvorak: Pamela Camela on tread
Adam Curry: wears, oh, AI? Let me see yours is yours is 154.
We're playing yours. Nice. And I
John C Dvorak: think it's more Wait, wait. Mais your clips same
clip, you said mine is more in context, as she goes on and
continues to try to explain things.
Adam Curry: I like it, I want to hear it. I'm excited. I'm
jacked.
John C Dvorak: I'm surprised.
Unknown: And I think the first part of this issue that should
be articulated is AI is kind of a fancy thing. It's first of all
two letters. It means artificial intelligence. But ultimately
what it is, is it's about machine learning. And so the
machine is taught. And part of the issue here is what
information is going into the machine.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm gonna stop right there. And then we'll
continue this. So she gives away the entire plan right here. They
know that AI is nothing more than some skip logic. But they
also know that it's being positioned as, and there's
movies coming out like into the light and we're all going to die
in the AI is going to eat us and eat the world. Who we I say, but
they know that AI will be positioned as truth. It's
already being positioned as truth. AI is scanning our
podcast right now to tell advertisers not to advertise on
it, which of course, the AI is too dumb to know that we don't
take advertising. But they want everything to come it'll be
computer says. And so no matter what they want to make sure that
there's no incorrect information being fed into the AI. That's
what this is about. That's why they want an agency to regulate
it. We want to make sure that the AI doesn't suck up any of
that no agenda talk, or meld Maga talk, or, or even
libertarian talk or Bitcoin talk I don't know that they want.
John C Dvorak: She actually what you're saying is what she's
gonna say
Unknown: that will then determine. And we can predict
them if we think about what machine what information is
going in, what then will be produced in terms of decisions
and opinions that may be made through that process. So to
reduce it down to its most simple point. This is part of
the issue that we have here is thinking about what is going
into a decision and then whether that decision is actually
legitimate and reflective of the needs and the life experiences
of all people. And therefore a big part of what we will also
discuss then is the transparency in terms of the processes
through which AI Ashley is having an impact on decisions?
Do we understand the technology? Do we know what is going into
the decisions that are being made? So this is very
Adam Curry: multifaceted. So when she says do we know she
means do we control
Unknown: issue and topic and we also know that that this is
technology that is rapidly developing. And so part of the
common purpose that we have is a sense of urgency that we get in
front of this issue in terms of understanding the implications,
so that we can work as a community of folks, private
sector, public sector, nonprofits, government, to do
what is in the best interest of the health and safety and well
being of the people of our country. And ultimately, that's
how I think about this.
Adam Curry: So the UK always ahead, always a step ahead with
letting us know about the excess death as an all that the and
this is from reclaim the net, which I think they're pretty
good organization. headline, new UK law, which is the online
safety bill. Wood proposals will legally curb algorithms that
promote Andrew Tate. This is an extreme example. But that's the
whole point. The AI cannot point 13 year old boys towards a guy
like Andrew Tate.
John C Dvorak: This is this is this says that
Adam Curry: yes, literally this is this is the whole story is
about is that what the law? The law doesn't say that No, no,
this is interpretation of the law.
John C Dvorak: Did you say that? Or is it say that in the Arctic
and the article? Okay.
Adam Curry: Yes, the UK is boil.
John C Dvorak: I want to get your take on these. I have two
more clips on AI that need to be discussed. Yes, let's do it.
One, we're doing the same thing that you just described. This is
the AI Rando thought Schumer bill.
Unknown: So I probably more concerned about China's ability
to steal our property than what they're going to innovate
themselves
with the private sector, and make sure to make sure that we
innovate way ahead of everybody else. But at the same time that
there are safeguards so that innovation doesn't get out of
control or be used for negative purposes, is very, very real as
well. It's gonna be one of the hardest tasks that Congress has
ever faced. But
so Schumer has been pushing a bill that he says does have
bipartisan support, but from the senators that we spoke with, we
asked about this bill and the likelihood of it passing during
this Congress, they said that they are very, not familiar with
this specific bill. But they say they do have an open mind. They
say they just need to learn more about how legislation could
actually move as well as just learn more about the overall
role that artificial intelligence actually plays in
our nation right now.
Adam Curry: So let's just for no agenda purposes, let's whenever
they say artificial intelligence, let's call it an
algorithm, which is called an algo. Have you noticed that tic
tock is still not being kicked out of America yet? Have you
noticed that? Do you think it could have anything to do with
the fact that that this company is going there's a lot of money
flowing right now, Washington, DC, and tic TOCs algorithms are
doing a lot of good for a lot of people in DC, particularly the
trans mountain crowd?
John C Dvorak: I'm going to argue that I do want to play one
more clip, though, get this one out of the Senator and Rubio
talking about the fact is what's happening, there seems to be a
panic in the Senate. Yes. And that's why that's interesting
that Schumer's got some bill that nobody's read, but it's
already been passed, kind of. However, that works. Just go,
just the last one. And we can you can go from there.
Unknown: I think one of the things we're not talking about
is how disruptive it will be economically AI will do to
higher educated workers in some fields, what globalization did
to workers in American factories, it's going to put
some people out of work, it'll create new jobs, but it's going
to eliminate some jobs,
you know, anything that's harvesting massive amounts of
data, you can always potentially use the data incorrectly. The AI
does operate off a set or set of patterns and the patterns can be
wrong. Right. So what is the what's the validation of AI
related content? There's tremendous intellectual property
concerns. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think that that's where the that's why they're
running around. It's called the intellectual property. There's a
lot of money in intellectual property. And you already pegged
this right off the bat like all these lawsuits are definitely
happening. And we're not just talking about song early
John C Dvorak: losses seem to be trivial and somewhat Nothing to
see here ish.
Adam Curry: Drone dork will gives us an update from the
frontlines boots on the ground report as JCD predicted the push
back to generative AI is here. As previously discussed, I'm
with a big blue company. They've recently told us that we are not
to use third party generative AI tools for work as they may
infringe on IP. Just use our generative AI. It probably needs
training anyway. I feel like anyone with the brain could have
seen this coming but AI sure is bright and shiny. Their entire
pod Test companies now. Oh, is that does it make it a podcast
with AI?
John C Dvorak: I love to hear an AI podcast.
Adam Curry: This shit. They're horrible. Sure.
I mean, yeah. Do we use artificial intelligence for our
transcript? Sure. Then it still spells your name JH en si,
John C Dvorak: you know, yeah. And John says the student to be
able to learn anything else. Oh,
Adam Curry: and I keep telling it that it's that's not right.
But it won't listen to me. So these are just algos. It's not
spectacular. In fact, it's so crap that no wonder they want to
control it. It'll be a $2.2 million spread by federal
government teaching kids how to build AI with critical theory
doesn't
John C Dvorak: again where they go theory you mean that Marxist
approach to learning? Yep. No, wait, wait, we read that whole
thing. Again, we're what
Adam Curry: the National Science Foundation's Division of
Research on Learning in formal and informal settings awarded
two and a half million dollars to Oakland, California based
nonprofit, why our media, a media technology and music
training center and platform for emerging bipoc content creators
who are using their voices to change the world to teach
underrepresented and undeserved youth how to integrate critical
theory with artificial intelligence technologies.
John C Dvorak: So in Oakland, they're teaching critical race
theory, which is what they're talking about here. Yep,
Critical Theory critical race are just part of it. But to
break our Kusa crap out of school of Frankfurt. Yes. Back
in the 60s bull crap. Yes. They brought it back. That's the
whole basis of the Maoist stuff that we talked about on this
show all the time. So our government is now funding this.
Unknown: Yes. Correct. Believe It's Not unbelievable. It's
completely unbelievable. It's completely believable.
Adam Curry: Yes. Sadly. There's another thing, just just talking
about algorithms, you know how we're feeding stuff. There are
now 400 airports in the US where the TSA is using facial
recognition and support supposedly, you're allowed to
opt out of it, but no one is
John C Dvorak: to follow. I don't remember getting the form
that I can opt out. And I wouldn't know Well, no. Let's
see a guy comes in that facial recognition. The thing on the
screen says, Oh, he's opted out. We can't tell you who it is. No,
no. Yes. The first guy draw my attention to
Adam Curry: Apparently you're allowed to say hey, I don't want
here on his way to catch a flight. Senator Jeff. Merkley
Democrat of Oregon, was asked to have his photo taken by facial
recognition machine at airport security. TSA has been testing
use of facial recognition software to verify travelers
identification at some airports is now 400. If you decline, a
TSA agent is supposed to verify your identification as has been
done at airport security for years. When Merkley said no to
the face scan at Washington's Reagan, Reagan National Airport,
to Reagan things Reaganism Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, he was
told it would cause a significant delay. It's time to
opt out of this crap.
John C Dvorak: I love the bureaucrats. And it's really
Unknown: it's really, really, really, really crazy,
John C Dvorak: significant delay. Senators should have
said, well, how many hours do you think it will delay? You
know, how many significant delay?
Adam Curry: So, yeah, so they're pushing us towards this, but it
will all be. I mean, everything will just be running on an AI.
And we will, we'll start we'll be running
John C Dvorak: poorly.
Adam Curry: It'll be running extremely poorly.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what it does. And that's what these
all these technologies tend to do. They tend to if you let
them, if you let them take over, they do a shitty job. They don't
do a very good job. They're not they don't follow up, because
none of its really and they make mistakes left and right with
false positives and false negatives. It's just disastrous
in that regard. And right on cue, but it's cheap, but it's
cheap. It's like we're the Chinese now. Yes, yes, price
Adam Curry: right on cue. Elon Musk comes out with x AIXX.
John C Dvorak: Ai like X. Yeah. x.ai loves the letter X. Today
Adam Curry: we announced the formation of x ai. The goal of X
AI is to understand the true nature of the universe. You can
meet the team ask us questions during the Twitter spaces chat
out tomorrow, man, I think Correct? Correct. Correct.
John C Dvorak: Somebody spotted that early on. So it's not a
female in the group?
Adam Curry: Well, our team is led by Elon Musk CEO of Tesla
SpaceX. We we have previously worked at Deep Mind open AI
Google research Microsoft Research Tesla University of
Toronto. batch normalization atom optimizer layer
normalization and because of
John C Dvorak: the we've heard them all.
Adam Curry: And then there's another one out there anthropic,
an open AI rival. Well this is a piece of junk anthropic
John C Dvorak: love the name it is
Adam Curry: they have a chat bot Claude. So
John C Dvorak: joining with Barbie came up with with the Neo
Elijah,
Adam Curry: Neo Eliza. Oh, I like that. So they've raised
John C Dvorak: started up
Adam Curry: $750 million valued at 4.1 billion. And literally, I
asked a question like, What are the two things Adam curry is
most known for? And it just spits back some Wikipedia crap.
Yes, it does. And even when I said you know, are you
underplaying his role in podcasting? Yes, he was
instrumental in making podcasting popular. Okay, so
this is bullshit they
John C Dvorak: didn't give you credit for podcasting right off
the bat. No, no,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no you two things. I was one of the
first gray hair I would know as one of the first celebrities to
have a blog that's literally in my wiki pedia which I'm not
allowed to change as you know.
Unknown: So anyway, Elon is under attack because you will
maybe go change it. Yeah, please.
John C Dvorak: And we got time.
Adam Curry: Elon is under attack for
John C Dvorak: he's been under he's under attack. Now they're,
they're playing up this bull crap cage match. It's never
going to happen. Oh, Zuckerberg. So dummies actually gotten a
bunch of trainers. And you see now he's buffed. He's kind of
like Eli's not going to do this is not an idiot
Unknown: No, he's not
John C Dvorak: this is a scam it's just it's just distraction
Adam Curry: of crap stupid. Now that what's happening is the
mainstream was trying to discredit Twitter. It's tanking
it's no good because Metis threads has hit 100 million
users everyone's using threads. Threads is where we all need to
go promotion is a great promotion and their bio
John C Dvorak: shock they just posted one thing on there and
they got kicked off immediately offer threads yeah for posting
facts as she puts it I posted some facts I got kicked off
Adam Curry: very bad idea very very bad idea. So anyway, I
think it feels like things are coming to a head you know we got
the Europe coming with a digital Euro the people are no longer at
people I got no money they're gonna have to give people money
again that hat that Biden omics yeah one pocket
John C Dvorak: made Oh call a bite inflation is it has a
better ring to it some people I've never heard bite inflation
Adam Curry: I know I've seen it I've seen it posted they're not
going to call it that and mainstream Hello but you know
the the wasn't the six major banks rode off over $5 billion
and mainly credit card debt young women everywhere now are
on the pay pig Have you heard of this? Oh don't pay pig pig pig
is it now there's there's not like Unfortunately there's no
pay pig website. Well there are but a pay pig is a guy who pays
I think as far as I know mainly attractive young women young
women young women to say stuff about them in their social media
and if and some of them want just to be humiliated some of
them even give give their password like here just take any
money you want. And yes, yes.
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is bogus.
Adam Curry: No, no. Hey, I've been hanging out with the kids
though Yeah, pay pig Are they involved with pay pig there have
been offers. I can tell you what one of the offers was? Oh, yeah.
I will not say which child
John C Dvorak: I don't care. You don't care who the child is $300
Adam Curry: to watch a guy drink his own urine
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute. So let me get this let me let me
kind of focus this so guy wants to drink urine his own his own
Okay, well yeah, it could be you know, it could be lemon kool aid
for all we know so we know but I think the whole thing was he
have to pee it in there to show for now. Yes. Yeah, I think that
was part of this guy is going to go on camera.
Unknown: Yes. As the kids would call it cam Yes. ON CAM Yes.
John C Dvorak: ON CAM and pee into a jar and then drink it.
While being watched by one of the kids and the kids are gonna
get 300 bucks to do this front
Adam Curry: now they'll he'll pay him 300 up front
Unknown: while they take it that didn't
Adam Curry: say they didn't but that's not the point that's not
the point
John C Dvorak: he was like easy money to me like I'm available
Adam Curry: Yeah, but so that's a pay pig that's a payment who's
the
John C Dvorak: pig? That dumb shit given the girls 300 bucks
that Washington P
Unknown: yes
John C Dvorak: that's the pay pig so they call pay pigs
Adam Curry: Yes. I actually thought I had a clip Hold on a
second.
John C Dvorak: I never heard of anything so stupid a pig people
that bored with their dad that much time on their hands?
Adam Curry: No it's any money it's a part of what's happening
in the world by the way you're on tick tock you're Mr. Tick
tock Here we go. I'll play this this clip his his woman on tick
tock
Unknown: Yes, there are men out there who want to give you money
in return for absolutely nothing. There's nothing wrong
in this basically they're called Pay pigs now pay pigs are pretty
common. You can find them on the internet there are specific
websites for this. But a lot of that comes through traffic on
social media and essentially fans they fall in love with the
person and they send them money as a thank you for creating
content. However, pay pigs don't stick around for long they
usually demand a lot of attention from you because they
feel that they own you all have kind of power over you because
they've paid you or they're buying new gifts. Now you'll
find a lot of people on Tik Tok for example actually have pay
pigs and the pigs often feel used you know because well
they're not getting anything in return so Alright, so
Adam Curry: that's I mean this this is clip after clip after
clip of the pay pigs here's another one.
Unknown: So basically everyone's asking me for tutorial assumes
and pay pigs and the truth is I don't find them they find me
after they
Adam Curry: find they find you so you post off on on tick tock
and then the pay pigs contact you send you money but to do
something
John C Dvorak: you post what on tick tock to get contacted just
yourself. I am looking to look at some funny things.
Adam Curry: Just be yourself. Just be be a cute young woman.
I'm here.
John C Dvorak: Here's what I'm going to the cute young woman. I
am so annoyed by them. Massive number I think they're teens but
I've seen women obviously in their 20s they they bend over
they turn on the cam they stand there in front of the cam Yeah.
And then they some music comes on and she they their lip sync
it or they whatever they do. They do some stupid dance
strolling around and they move their arms and they move their
hands and they go back and forth. It was like a kind of a
lousy version of a John Travolta dance ad libbed, and they diddle
around on the screen and dance and dance and dance. And then
they turn off the video. What is the point of the stupid chicks
Adam Curry: dancing rolling for pay pigs?
John C Dvorak: That's gotta be it. Yes, that explains it all
now. I've been wondering I ever once I'm going through there's
some dumb dumb girl I'll put it that way because it kind of cute
maybe usually over made up and drink wearing a nice dress and
then they do some stupid spasmodic dance that is like
what is this? And then I have to I just by the time I'm grossed
out by the lousy dancing, it goes on to the next clip, but
that could be it. I could explain it all. John,
Adam Curry: I'm really a little concerned about your media
consumption.
John C Dvorak: Well, it does result in a lot of good clips
and fat.
Unknown: Oh, no, here we go. Now that
you brought it up, talk
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start with I found this to be a little
is a bunch. Here's a dietician a couple of dietitians talking
about the current state of eating
Unknown: a day thing breakfast, lunch, and dinner is from
colonialism in white supremacy. As if we didn't have enough good
reasons to stop letting external cues tell us how to feed
ourselves and start listening to our internal cues. Here's
another one that I don't know about you but I hate when crusty
old white men tell me what to do with my life. Or especially tell
me what to do with my body. So eat what you want when you want
there are no rules start listening to what your body is
telling you.
Adam Curry: This by the way, I think is a pay pig troll. You
crusty old man now, the crusty old man goes like Oh, I'm gonna
show you. I'm going to show you I want to pay you to tell him to
do let me tell you what to eat. John. It's a sick, broken world,
my friend. This is real. It has
John C Dvorak: to do this. Social media which is your area,
Adam Curry: all of it has to do with social media all of it.
Bah.
John C Dvorak: Okay, here's, here's here's another thing you
run into.
Adam Curry: I'm going to interject some things as you go
through these tick tock clips.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well as you as you see I have more than one
I have noticed this Yes. Yeah, it was a problem. Yeah. Okay,
let's go to this get done this one of those guys. And this is
very common. There's a there's a bunch of looks. Besides the
idiotic Danzig I've always complaint I just
Adam Curry: play well now you know one other thing. least we
know we figured that one out. That's paid pig trolling.
John C Dvorak: There's this looks that millennials have with
Adam Curry: the eye with the eyes drawn and a point on the
side like this dad
John C Dvorak: and there's a kind of a smirk, a lot of smirk
and kind of like to wear my lips are sticking out. I'm smirking
at you and you are
Adam Curry: such a cultural observant.
John C Dvorak: And then my eyebrows are going up in the
middle the to, you know, so they kind of pointing up and making a
couple of vertical lines. They're yellow. Yep. And that
kind of like I'm talking like out of out of the sight of my
mouth. Okay, well, here's a guy that's got every one of these
looks and he's a he's a gender a gender Perry. He's practicing
gender parenting.
Unknown: If you're doing gender neutral parenting, gender
creative parenting, what do you do when your kid is old enough
to ask, Hey, am I a boy or girl? You and me already talked about
this in the comments. But I thought it might make an
interesting video. Because there's probably a lot of people
with this question. You don't even need to be doing this
parenting method to want to have sort of a more open minded way
to answer that kind of a question from your kid. And my
answer here is actually pretty simple. I would just turn it
back into a question. It's windy out here. I might say well, how
do you feel? You feel like a boy or girl or maybe something else?
How do you think we might figure that out? Together? Are you
asking about how do you look on the outside or you asked me
about how you feel on the inside? Maybe we should go read
a book about this together. I have some ideas you want to go
sit down and take a look at I would share how I know my gender
identity. It's a question that gives you an opportunity to have
a conversation and that's a beautiful thing.
Adam Curry: When I was a kid, my mom told me the story when she
was still alive. We were out in the garden. I was about six
years old. She was ready for me to ask the big question. And
we're gardening. And I say Mom, yes, Adam. Mom, why is it that
pirates have knives in their mouth? between their teeth? What
happened between then and now that we're asking, am I a boy or
a girl? Is this really happening? Is this really
happening?
John C Dvorak: It is when you're gender affirming parenting. When
you have a freaky dad like this dude. It probably is happening
because they're encouraging it. It is when all I know is his
creepy. This guy's creepy. He's glib. He's got all those looks.
I was bitching about
Adam Curry: do you think he actually has a kid?
John C Dvorak: He's got to? Well, that's the there's the
old.
Adam Curry: I'd like to point out that the New York Post cites
a a study. It was a poll actually was a poll. So not a
study a poll of Brown University students. Brown University, I
would say rather elite school now.
Unknown: Yep. elite school, Ivy League.
Adam Curry: 38% of students identified as either homosexual,
bisexual, queer, asexual pansexual questioning or other
30x percent.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but that's Brown. I think that's always
been the case there. But the point is, right, it's out of the
way.
Adam Curry: The point is. The point is, this is contained and
for as the same way it's, it's cool, you know, it's like it's
the thing to say so you're part of it and you queer was queer.
Now everybody's clear.
John C Dvorak: Now, I'm not gonna argue that debt, but
that's kind of a disgusting now,
Adam Curry: along with these clips, I'm gonna read this email
to you. This is unfortunate, not a great email from our parents
whose son stepson has, as you know, he he left the family and
then he kind of came back for a moment but then things went
south again, this is the sissy Hypno porn steps on if you
remember, now, he got sucked into the sissy Hypno porn. You
know the specification pornography.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Yes, I do. Remember I don't remember the
details, though. Well,
Adam Curry: it's been a month since our son has talked to us.
I'm sure he's experiencing shame and Going back to his sissy
Hypno porn life. Tick tock, I'm telling you is designated to pit
children against parents. It doesn't work when the parents
drink the Kool Aid. But just like in the Cultural Revolution,
parents who denied the reality of the Great Leap formalism
maintained relationships with their kids, I'm glad you
enlightened me to the mouse connection to all this. I did a
deep dive on the Great Leap Forward and cultural revolution.
But this is something called kids are going no contact. No
Contact is what it's called. And they're being encouraged Here's
the article more kids are going no content and cutting off their
parents. So these ghouls who are are sucking children insert
young men especially in this case, into the specification
porn making them believe they're trans and subsequently setting
up only fans for them so they can feel love, just like just
like the the Rakowski sister. It's mental. It's completely
meant I'm just going to call it what it is. But now we're into
domestic abuse. I severe crime, British parents can be
prosecuted by refusing to pay for transgender treatments, even
if your spouse and misgendering your child can get your child
taken away from you.
You got very quiet.
John C Dvorak: It's astonishing what this stuff and that is not
that debt little last bit has gotten as cropped up in Canada.
And it's cropped up here.
Adam Curry: And I have an email to share. Anonymous. I am a c a
s a court appointed special advocate for foster children in
a red state. There are a lot of Indiana listeners and people in
other deep red states who may listen to your show feel
protected against transgender ideology impacting them,
especially when we've been told it's so political. after all. We
live in red states with conservative politicians so this
can only happen to parents in Canada or California. In 2020. I
had a court case involving the removal of a 13 year old girl
and her sibling from their home the crime. The father
misgendered her. She told her school guidance counselor and
the guidance counselor contacted the Department of Child Services
DCS, they removed the children in the middle of a school day.
These children were placed in foster care, and the case was
assigned to me. I attended supervised visitations the
counselor running the visitations would warn the
father beforehand that if he misgendered, his son, who was a
13 year old girl, she would end the visit early because it was
an act of violence causing harm. I petitioned the judge and
implored the Department of Child Services multiple times to close
this case and put the children back in their home where they
belong. warning that this was massive government overreach, it
took three months for the judge to dismiss the case. Three
months at a normal parent fought to get his kids back sidenote,
while in foster care, the children got the COVID Jab
against the will of the Father. It wasn't until I demand that
the Father had final say over his children's medical care that
this went before the judge and he ordered the second dose not
be administered without parental consent. I want to remind the no
agenda list. There's no agenda nation. This is a deep red
County in a deep red state. And this was 2020 over three years
ago. For parents who think the public school system is broken
and in need of repair be advised. It's working exactly
how it was intended to work and things will only get worst.
Compulsory education was designed to enslave and produce
compliant consumers. Parents stopped blaming tick tock social
media, cell phones and public schools and start taking
responsibility and ownership for what's influencing your
children. At the end of the day, there's a couple of links in
there for people to take a look at. Is this she? Yes. This is in
one of our producers would this boots on the ground and I really
appreciate her taking some risk and telling us this, too. This
is why this is what's going on. And this happened three years
ago.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to what's going on.
Adam Curry: And I would have to say that's a a Maoist movement.
It's totally my wish being controlled by the
John C Dvorak: very well done. I mean, you had the one thing you
have to say if you're going to be honest about it gets really
well done. The Maoists behind it are just great. They're
fantastic and the pot the general public seems to be
oblivious, which is exactly what you want a bunch of oblivious
boneheads and that's what you end that's how you end up with
that Brown. Diversity survey, which indicated that you should
I would like to read that again, because it's pretty interesting
that this would be a situation which makes no sense,
historically, but can you read that brown data again?
Adam Curry: 38 to 38% of students at the ivy already has
almost 40% identified as either homosexual, bisexual, queer,
asexual pansexual questioning or other There you go. Yeah. And so
when
John C Dvorak: when children 1% 2%, maybe five when children
are convinced of
Adam Curry: these things, someone has a hold on them. And
by the way, you know, we just going back to the sound of
freedom, which is also about abuse of children stealing
children selling children, God knows what they're doing. Look
at the difference. But do you remember the Netflix series
cuties? Do you remember that? Yes, how fawning was was the the
main stream over cuties?
John C Dvorak: I think we discussed it on the show as it
does kind of a borderline disgusting show. certainly
Adam Curry: did. We certainly did. And now compare that to
sound of freedom. Something is wrong.
John C Dvorak: I'd say
Adam Curry: proposed, proposed California bill would brand
parents abusive if they refuse to affirm their child's gender.
John C Dvorak: Birth. Yeah, that's Gavin Newsom.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: I don't know who's pulling his strings. But
somebody there's some the whole thing is ludicrous. And which
brings us back to what happens to the people who are caught up
in this and I have two, two characters who are going to go
on Tik Tok and moan and groan about being misgendered and what
it really means to them. Okay, and I want to play the first
one, which is the myths of gender pain,
Unknown: I get so many comments like this. And I want to explain
something being misgendered can be an incredibly painful
experience. In that moment, we are reminded that the world
places us into a bucket that we do not fit in. And it is
incredibly dramatic to grow up being constantly told you
something you're not so for a lot of people being misgendered
triggers that trauma. So if it looks like I'm mad, it's
probably because I'm in a lot of pain, in the same way that when
we stub our toe, we scream expletives because we're in
pain, also us non binary people, we're forced to educate
ourselves on our own existence. So it can be frustrating when we
see people who are not putting in the work and constantly
making mistakes, and I know what is new, I know mistakes are
bound to happen. And I have patients for people who are
genuinely putting in the work. I know so many of you don't want
to be hurting non binary people. But the truth is, when you miss
gender rescue, you are to expect us to hold your hand through it
while we're being hurt. That's abusive behavior.
Adam Curry: Alright, so something I need to say about
this. So what you're seeing here is not just someone's opinion
and their nuts. This is someone who has no other way to be an
influencer to get likes to get traction to get followers to get
kudos to get whatever it is whatever the reward mechanism is
of social media in this case, Tik Tok, which I don't actually
know but you can surmise what it is. This is just another part of
the reward loop. And so it's just another thing to talk about
that you can get people going Yeah, that's right. You're good.
I'm following you go slay Queen through and this the same with
him like a troll. Yes. Well, it's not it's a reward system is
the number one coveted job in in the world now is influencer
everybody. Look everybody loves getting kudos. Like, Hey, I got
some cute I got some likes. Now this is fantastic. I'm doing
great. I'm popular. People love me. So if you have anything to
talk about what's easier than to go? And don't miss gender? Me? I
don't know. It's it's harmful. It's hurting me. I can do that.
Every every you can do that. In fact, I think you should open a
tick tock and be the old crusty white guy who's who's mad that
he's misgendered put a wig on.
John C Dvorak: But do it to you should do.
Adam Curry: Yes, I know. I know about. The other Yeah. Yeah,
this is it's it's an evil evil loop and people are stuck in it.
And even if they if the problem, this person, probably not
different gender at all. It's just a thing to do. And what you
can say, here is I'm queer. I'm queer.
John C Dvorak: Again, is where I part ways with your concept and
things. Because I believe these people are more sincere than you
do. Generally speaking. Well, eventually
Adam Curry: you convince me yes, they're sincere. They're queer.
Great.
John C Dvorak: I mean, once this year, I'm queer. So now what
bothered me about this is this idea of putting in the work and
he said it twice. Yeah. Or she? I don't know. He never said on
the thing what? Gender Vichy it is, but putting in the word this
is like, Wait, why should I do anything? I mean, the idea of
social cues were supposed to take care of this for me So I
saw somebody wearing a dress and it had a blonde wig. That's uh,
she, yes, it's easy enough in your little kid and somebody's
wearing pants and you know, rough customer guy with a beard
key. I don't shouldn't have to go beyond that because I don't
need to put in the work on every individual that I don't even
know who they are.
Adam Curry: Do otherwise the influencer has no gig. If we
don't if we can't say you need to put in the work, which by the
way stems from Black Lives Matter. Do the work. Do the
work.
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, I thought it was pretty dead stem
from what was it? Was that woman? Yes. That did the book
us. Yes, White River
Unknown: white privilege do
Adam Curry: the black. Okay, white privilege, do the work.
You got to be doing the work. Put in the work. You're not
doing the work. I can scold you for not doing the work. That's
what this is.
John C Dvorak: All right. So go to the next guy another
complaint or this another misgendered poor soul. And this
is the one who's not only miss gender, but misgendered. And
Unknown: irked. And I genuinely think that people don't realize
how deeply microaggressions and misgendering affects trans
people in Houston tiny example I auditioned slash interviewed for
this film intensive and one of the things they talked about in
my interview was being a gender fluid actor and wanting to fight
affirmative spaces to tell queer narratives. One of the
administrators who has her pronouns in her email signature
pushes me on to the final round with this email that misgendered
me three different times my pronouns are in my email
signature, my Zoom name, my resume my application and on my
film reel, so I respond cordially. And I add this before
I've even met anyone for this final interview, I've had to
correct it administrator in front of her boss, and I've
already had to be on the defense defending my own identity, This
just creates an awkward power dynamic that could have been
completely avoided. And depending on this person's
response, it can either be a non issue, or it puts me at a major
disadvantage. This is something says people just do not deal
with and it's also really easy to get someone's pronouns,
right, especially when you're typing them out.
Adam Curry: Now, this is the social control. This is this is
this is trans mouse. And right here, the social control of
pronouns, that's where it all started. And it's in the
workplace. And people are afraid to just call bullcrap because
you can get fired Oh, but it's a beautiful mechanism. And this
has been going on for decades. And here we are. And by the way
out with these stupid clips and the only gig we can get and keep
is this podcasting
John C Dvorak: because we only want the support of the people
out there who produced the show and
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage
say in the morning to you the man who put the C in sincerely
queer ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other
end one only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: Hello, Mr. Add in the morning to you Adam Curry
who doesn't definitely does not want to hear a clip I am
guessing anyway. No, she was in rough in the air subs in the
water all the names and lights up there
Unknown: in the morning
Adam Curry: in the morning to the trolls and the troll room
out the trolls for saying hello Trump put your heel down
scurrying away 2015. That's good for Thursday.
John C Dvorak: That's fantastic for Thursday. That's
Adam Curry: the new normal. And boy, let me tell you this
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John C Dvorak: I don't think anyone's ever said that. Yes, I
Adam Curry: someone tweeted a just last show. Just the last
show. And I said oh that may be well that may be
John C Dvorak: is the words no agenda too hard to decipher.
Yes, yeah, because it it didn't go gold right at the top these
Adam Curry: are these are people who have 8000 subscriptions in
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John C Dvorak: I can't find guide that's too hard for me not
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Adam Curry: Your watch will get a whole bunch of emails. Do you
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John C Dvorak: We don't care. That's the voice you should
perfect.
Adam Curry: All of us how can we suck and we're gonna go like
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John C Dvorak: was that it was a
Adam Curry: niche now I can't remember back and listen. We
want to thank the artists for episode 1571. We titled that one
wrong. Which man, a lot of people that lady from the wrong
NPR interview. She did that conspiracy crew she did a whole
video on that thing. She is very wrong indeed. Yeah, you guys in
the show notes you got to take a look at what you and some people
say
John C Dvorak: that you're talking about the woman who did
the book that was the that? I don't think that was that the
guest I thought the guests was the wrong? No, no, I thought it
was the host that was the one.
Adam Curry: Well, I heard two things. I heard one it was coke.
Someone was coked out like a like a Coke, throat coke throat
or something. And another one
John C Dvorak: was he end up saying wrong. Wrong Wrong.
Adam Curry: And another one was millio California Ahsoka SoCal.
Yeah, it could be it could be million. Anyway, networks did a
dynamite piece of art for us and I can't wait to talk about the
cluster bombs later in the show. This was the cluster duds for
those of you who are not familiar with Milk Duds in the
United States, it's a loved candy. It was a pasty flush of
the Milk Duds bite size bomblets 33 fragments up armored taste it
was just without I mean, we there were several other pieces
of art that we'd like but this was beautiful.
John C Dvorak: And there was a there was a in this case the
done this show. Yeah, there was at least five pieces that were
all usable there were
Adam Curry: now we liked this one also because it had the
white background which really makes it pop
John C Dvorak: was the second version. I'm not even sure. And
then there was another version of the almost exact same art
done by Parker Paulie. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, he had 1% duds. Yeah, it was it was close.
Let's see what else was there. There was now honorary mentioned
for the conspiracy addled Boomer cap.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I use it for the newsletter. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that was funny. It wasn't the best but it was
funny. what else what else was was on the high on the menu here
fact check wrong and also no agenda is never wrong so
multiple Ronk article life wrong but we wanted we wanted to title
the show wrong that was obvious so and we try not to title the
show the same as the artwork. There were some cluster bomb
jokes in there. Someone actually put your your car in there. I
was going to Blogger Of course. What else? What else was there
that we liked? Was there anything else? You know?
John C Dvorak: Everything was good. I just obviously generally
speaking, it was
Adam Curry: in general. Yeah, just just in the artists are so
talented. We love them so much. Watch it it's a competition was
anything we need to critique somebody don't want to do a
really crappy job.
John C Dvorak: I couldn't come up with anything. There's no
real harsh critique here. We try to do harsh critiques and losers
no harsh critique, like something that should have won
but because they did this or that wrong.
Adam Curry: Now that I'm looking at it Bowling for Ukraine, it's
too complicated. But Francisco, there's that one. So on the
right hand side, Francisco Scaramanga if he has beautiful
fonts he did it did something original for sure, but it just
didn't have that. That X Factor, you know, and that that was no
good day, Kenny. Ben had the suicide by jet which just no one
can't see that. That's a jet engine. Good try, though. Good
try. We appreciate all of it. It's It's such nice use of your
talent. And these are great artists because they do this
while they're listening live. They just throw this together
and get it up there because they might
John C Dvorak: kind of like duds away touch up by certain net
Ned. It's a 33rd Squadron f the EU and duds away?
Adam Curry: That was nice. Yes,
John C Dvorak: a patch. I think it's a nice patch.
Adam Curry: That should be in the no agenda shop. This patch.
Possibly. Anyway, no agenda art. generator.com is where you can
see all of these pieces of art and you can refresh it live.
They're already uploading pieces 405 For this episode, or you can
use one of those modern podcast apps, Dred Scott does chapters
for us and changes the arch continuously. When you're in the
car. If you're using CarPlay on some of these apps, or Android
Auto you can actually see that art change right in front of you
on your on your dashboard, which is also fun. That's great. Thank
you artists, we appreciate you and of course, thank you Ness
works very well done. Now. Let us thank some of the executive
and Associate Executive producers for episode 1572. We
call them all everybody's a producer. No one's just a
listener. Everybody produces somehow with your time talent or
treasure. And just like Hollywood when someone comes in
with big bucks to help us out, you become an executive producer
or Associate Executive Producer and we kick it off with Damian
Alderson from outta Montes out to Monty Altamonte Springs Delta
Mont Alto mon Springs Florida with a favorite number four five
6.78 In the morning gents de meowed isn't here who I met in
Nashville. She's fantastic. He's very funny. Damien is in here
trying to keep it short and sweet. Jingles oh I didn't for
some reason miss these from her. There's no there there a JC the
classic. No, there. Yeah, I got that one. An Amen fist bump.
Another no agenda classic. Love that. And little girl gate. This
donation brings me to VI Countess. Don't underestimate
those monthly donations, y'all. You guys are putting out
excellent material. Thank you. As always, I'm also also asking
for travel karma. As I head to Greece, I'll be celebrating my
35th birthday in Santorini on the 18th so please add me to the
birthday list. I look forward to catching up on new episodes when
I returned from vacation. What do they not have? Internet in
Santorini? You think she's just taking like a sabbatical
John C Dvorak: from? Some people do that? Okay, well that's okay.
We have no problem leave your cell phone at home. That's the
main love and let Dame
Adam Curry: vie Countess to be me. How does then right exactly
like there's there's no agenda? No, that's not what it that's
not what I wanted to know. There. There. Hold on. No, there
are there. Now that's weird. I don't have that one. Is that AI
does. Does that exist? There's no there there. I kind of
remember it. I can't remember. Mom. Sorry. I'll have to look it
up for you. Hey, man. Fist bump. No, that's also the wrong one.
I'm wrong. Two for to a Fizbo I liked that one. No, but I'm two
for two. This is this is not
Unknown: very good. Hey, man. Fist bump. There
Adam Curry: we go. Oh, man. So sorry about that. You've got
karma. I thought I did a good job of getting the jingles. I
missed yours. Damien was I'll look for that to JCD No, they're
there.
John C Dvorak: surplus to requirements, surplus to
requirements. Brad Sherwood. That all means but 34543. And he
said he said a dice card it says Thanks from all of us. And on
the card he says we appreciate it. I tam gentlemen, thank you
for what you do because of your hard work. Your listeners are
all better informed and therefore smarter. Then the man
quote unquote the man wants us to be the man wants us to be
cheers surplus to requirements
Adam Curry: oh thank you very much then we have oh by the way
I found a did find another cool JCD jingle me you're likely
Unknown: heard that one in a long time.
Adam Curry: Sir RJ grande point A Manitoba California
330-330-3333 dot 33 is 461 dot 45 Scandinavian your choice and
which amount is credited? July 12 marks my 55th birthday I
request oh gee Sharpton super clips are RJ of grand point
Manitoba Canada
Unknown: resist we much we must fail all Jide about a shutdown
the tortoise in the race then co author of Kubrick's YouTube lead
singer Bono Fran Drescher singer noise Weaver Johanna Sanaya of
Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh the show rush Lombard
hosts Supreme Court Justice Sonia Santa Maya is Michael is
Mike McCurry yesterday and Tony and Tony Scalia Kim Kardashian
and the Republican candidates both Kerry row and Ben Ghazi we
rank behind locked V la vita first. Kazakhstan Kazakhstan,
two college students in Beijing is getting lunch at Chipotle in
Iowa bein is appropriate. The GOP Tax Day Giveaway to
millionaires, why was traffic problems email sent the
environmental projection agency and what's sequestration has
done
Adam Curry: and the trolls are correcting me saying that
Manitoba is in California. That's not true.
John C Dvorak: No, Manitoba It's easy in grande Pointe Manitoba
Canada. Yeah. That's interesting. Was says very
clearly on Yes. super clear. All right. Stay gram Point. Point.
Point Manitoba. Juan.
Adam Curry: Ponte. Dues Paul. You're up.
John C Dvorak: Oh, Chris pomos is up. Me. Chris Thomas. Thomas.
He's in Thomas Burg, Ontario, Canada. We have two Canadians in
a row. And he also came with the same 33333 Now all he has to say
is cheers, fellas. Christ. And then in the parents is the word
creased.
Adam Curry: Do you not understand that's a
pronunciation guide. His name was creased. palmos creased.
Creek Rhesus.
John C Dvorak: Yes. No, it was creased. So he's gonna start
over. Oh, please
Adam Curry: do take it out. All right, cut
John C Dvorak: it out. creased, creased greased palmas and
Thomas Berg, Ontario, Canada. 33333. Cheers.
Adam Curry: All right, then. Random Number theory. Third
Kansas avian in a row. Michel? cartmill Westbank British
Columbia 333. Hey, John and Adam. I'm a little late on this
year's annual donation but we've been busy planning a move to
Saskatoon Saskatchewan from our home in BC. Isn't that where all
the money is? John?
Unknown: Saskatchewan. Yeah. Oh, they have money that oh, it's
Alberta
Adam Curry: Oh, I decided I needed to donate to ask for
house selling buying and moving karma. When I sat down to do so
the clock red 333 It was a sign. So here is said promised
donation with the amount 333 USD it's 464 dot 36 and dollar EDS
but it's just worth it. We value the show greatly. So this is
what I'm talking about. The only other thing I asked is for add
rial to be officially knighted add rial that Adria Adria I
think Adrian, we had put his knighthood into abeyance due to
not having some kind of creative name to dazzle the listeners
with but it's been over a year and he hasn't picked one. So
I've decided to go with Sir Adrian Knight of the free BSD if
he doesn't like it, he can request to change himself. Thank
you both for your courage. Michelle and Adrian Cartmell and
fear is your karma for all that
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Angel is a Linux fan.
Adam Curry: FreeBSD is not the same as Linux.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know it's better.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, okay. John dvorak.org.
John C Dvorak: Tom, in Minot, Minato KU, Tokyo, Japan, and
Erie. Another donation provided The country even though pay
pelted This is a funny bit here. Even though Pay Pal tells me I
can't donate from Japan it somehow let me go through with
333
Adam Curry: is must be the number
John C Dvorak: 333 key is the key and you're all in Tokyo play
you know the three three check just a dude named been out here
for over 30 years working in the financial sector. You guys are
the best love to my gorgeous wife and amazing daughter D
douching. Please.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
John C Dvorak: For all in anything else. Sharpton you
heard a lot of Al Sharpton earlier in regards to time
Unknown: the SPI CT karma
Adam Curry: onward to Jack Tinkler. Columbus, Georgia 333
Dear best friends John and Adam my second donation and I started
listening to no agenda after Adams first Rogan visit
brilliant donation please send karma my way with a biscuit for
my birthday. We got a biscuit for your birthday always give me
a biscuit on my birthday. Oh he's also like a Trump arouse.
Okay, can you see that juice? Oh brother and a little girl yay.
We got all that for
Unknown: you. It was hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get
it aroused but we got it arrest.
John C Dvorak: Oh my gosh. Can you see that? Resting Harmar the
disgusting array of clips worse coming. Li percuss L E IG H is a
female's name in Birmingham West. Somewhere in UK in the UK.
Birmingham first apologies for the last note I have nerve nerve
damage in one hand and I tried to voice the text. And that was
the result. Okay. I don't remember there was probably we
don't have that note. So but it's good to know Yeah, I think
this donation gets me a title which will be the hermit of the
eight see Lee Crosby a man's name and the title hermit of
that he is a sexual. Thanks for giving some context to the
world. We try when I met you want to know whether this is Lee
you as a female or a male Li.
Adam Curry: I don't know. But Lee's getting guessing as
John C Dvorak: a male because of the nerve nerve damage to the
hand is the right hand.
Unknown: Okay, here we go.
Adam Curry: We'll see you on the podium later. Lee. Thank you.
Sonya pain is in Paragon Indiana to 4398 our first Associate
Executive Producer, and Sonia has an even more disgusting
donation request. As it brings out this is Sonia what Sonia
brings. Sonia brings me to knighthood. Now must be a dame.
No. Please Knight me sir. Nasty Nate protector of Morgan County
as it must have been his wife's Pay Pal, I guess. Yeah, that's
gotta be it. Okay, so Nate. This donation brings me a knighthood
and celebrating my 30th
John C Dvorak: birthday know that your Pay Pal is being
raided by Nate. She does
Adam Curry: now been listening since 2012 and on a monthly
donation since 2020 Thank you. Please help me sir. Nasty Nate
protector of Morgan County Indiana. Jingles smokin hot
wife. I'm going to come and 69 Dude. Oh yeah. Thanks for your
credit for your courage.
Unknown: 6969
John C Dvorak: What is wrong with people? It's your tooth
fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana. Hey guys. Thank you again for
the best podcast in the universe have a couple of edibles the
other day and ended up listening. It listening a recent
episode of Brett Weinstein's podcast and necessary wisdom
she's had to be stoned. He was discussing Atrazine and frogs,
which we talked about 10 years ago.
Adam Curry: Well, Alex Jones told us this turning the frogs
gay.
John C Dvorak: Well, he said it was turning the frogs gay but
I'm the one who had the clips from the professor at cow that
was disgusting. It was discussing Atrazine in the water
and mentioned that possibility. I think I figured people should
we should look those clips I have.
Adam Curry: I have. So if I think we're
John C Dvorak: I figured that the real reason they want us
feasting on insects, is hypotheses of how carnivorous
frogs should be exposed to the herbicide to the herbicide
atrazine, it was most likely due to the nerd diet bugs. The bugs
eat the poison plants we eat the bugs and the little boy's Dick
start to fallen off. Yay. You A game set match the lizard people
when he's still on animals. It seems to me a man for jingles
gonna get an eye like bugs Bouchy wheeze and Trump's Space
Force. Thanks, sir Tooth Fairy
Unknown: tastes like blue. It was hard to get it aroused and
I was you. That was
Adam Curry: that's me. Face forward. There we go. So many
Trump ISOs Dan during is in eolia Missouri 207 10 Switcheroo
he says this will be credited to my smokin hot fiance Jamie for
our anniversary on July 10. Happy three years babe. I hit
her in the mouth on our first date and she loved it. I knew
she was a keeper. Thank you for your courage. Cheers from Dan.
You got it. Jamie is switcheroo dude right here. Good to go.
Thank you so much.
John C Dvorak: Been meanwell healing house counseling in
Kingsland, Georgia. Hello, gentlemen. I'm a longtime
listener. First time donor $200. My smokin hot husband, Kenan,
Kenan, Kenan KNN hit me in the mouth years ago. I need to call
him out as a douchebag. I'm a non rapist therapist in Georgia.
I appreciate your deconstruction of the trans Maoist movement
I've been cleaning. I've been cleaning long enough to remember
when we diagnose this as gender dysphoria and help people learn
to live with those incongruence sees, yeah, most children if
they go through normal puberty would discover that they were
homosexual and then make decisions on how to navigate
that sounds about right and when it comes to the issue of gender
dysphoria, the only way for a therapist to get around losing
their license nowadays, if they aren't affirming your practice
is to go into cash pay only for services and screen out those
they work with you go is this
Adam Curry: bad as a good tip though, it's a good tip if you
want to save children instead of sending them to the chop shop.
John C Dvorak: To the chop shop shop. Sorry, I even came up with
that. Yeah. But it's a good show title. Yeah, I've been able to
accept insurance but I advertised my practice as a
Christian counseling practice. This seems to naturally weed out
those looking only for affirmation affirmation rather
than having their thoughts or feelings challenged. In
addition, I do not work with children, which seems to be a
protective barrier as well. That makes sense. Thank you too, for
being a voice of reason. I look forward to each podcast and she
is the healing house counselor healing house counseling in
Kingsland, Georgia. No, we don't know her name, but that's where
she's spreading out. So
Adam Curry: our last one is you kind of got to do the last one
because it's your gig. Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, the timing. Because why am I doing it
because it's Linda loop Adkins. She's in Lakewood, Colorado.
Jobs karma for all you jobs hunters out there. And for a
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Can under the show's executive producer list and run a search
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs
Adam Curry: are my question. We don't have that many blog posts
through these. Let me first thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers that has anyone 200 and above or
300 and above. These titles that you just received are the real
deal. You can use them anywhere credits are recognized which
includes IMDb almost 800, executive or Associate Executive
producers of the no agenda show recognize there, put them on
your LinkedIn. Use them in your your resume. I mean you and if
anyone ever questions it, we'll be happy to vouch for you. And
thank you, you execs and associate execs for supporting
the no agenda show. We appreciate it.
John C Dvorak: And we do want to thank our regular donors over 50
which includes George Daniel George in Danbury, Connecticut
with $100 a year er year by Ayar should know how to pronounce
that more in Illinois as a donation, a birthday donation
for 100 with $100 attached bill and Janet Webb in Gilbert,
Arizona $100 within a nice attached note, very pretty
somewhere. Oh, it's nice. Yeah. Nice. No, thank you. Kevin
McLaughlin in Concord North Carolina 808 He is our boobs man
and he's the only one today no, but he's holding up the for the
boob fort. William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware 7379 Dame trail
Boston Denver, Arizona with a 7011 cards he sent in with a
birthday request. Just happy birthday to me. Yay. Greg Milan
in net 10. Yeah,
Unknown: I haven't heard from Milan is back. Oh, Greg, Ilan.
John C Dvorak: He had us into notes and to make sure that we
got out that Kyle hunt and he came up with 6969. Dudes. Kyle
Hendrickson in Carpentersville. Illinois. 6933. He's the Scott
Horton investigator. No, all right, Joseph Stegman and 1000.
Oaks, California. 66. Christopher Christopher Dexter.
That the six seven another
Adam Curry: name from the past Christopher dektor.
John C Dvorak: I remember about time he came back now. Sure egg
here. We know we've been missing a number of people including our
bottles rocket guys.
Adam Curry: Bottles. Yeah. Donald.
John C Dvorak: Donald Donald. I hoped I think he ran out of
letterhead. And that was the end. I hope the Forever
chemicals didn't get him. Sure. AIG ahead in Dayton, Ohio. 55
Canada's a switcheroo de douching and some health cover
for my smokin hot wife PJ golden.
Unknown: You You've been de douche Tama
coming up.
John C Dvorak: Baron pink Scorpio and Cumberland, Ontario,
Canada.
Adam Curry: This is a nice five. I haven't listened in a while
but still checking periodically. Last Sunday show was outstanding
and insightful. I was quickly reminded of the value no agenda
can bring. Thank you for your courage. By the way. We got
sabotaged to you. Did you notice that we are at sabotaged. Tell
me. For a large number of people. They only received about
an hour and five minutes of the show. And in order to get the
rest of the show. They had to delete the episode and reload
and it was across apps. It was not at all consistent. I talked
to avoid zero. And he said and I said did one of the servers get
a partial upload? He said no, that's not possible. The
webserver doesn't even turn on until it's fully uploaded and
it's a mystery. A mystery. I call them I call sabotage.
Right? You might
John C Dvorak: be right this show is dense. Mimi says she had
to take a nap after the first hour I gotta take a nap. It was
a dead show is loaded. Funny. That showed it took her like a
long time to listen to and she said it was it was dense from
beginning to end. Everything in that show was it was compact. It
was dense with information. We gave it a B plus. And there was
there was it must have been those little clips at the end
that we put I think they're RFK Jr. Clips.
Adam Curry: And also it was RFK RFK Jr. deconstruction the NPR
ladies there was a lot in there
John C Dvorak: was a lot in there in the part that was
missing. Yes. Oh yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course.
There
Adam Curry: was the part that was missing. It's it's sabotage.
John C Dvorak: Interesting. Jean cables in all Barry, New South
Wales, Australia. $55 Christopher Jones and Paris.
Paris is in Paris, Texas, Paris, Texas. 5150 To 151 Christine
Heinz and Manchester New Hampshire. That you want 23 Bob
Butler and coming Georgia 5069. birthday with Christopher right
to Meijer in Green Bay, Wisconsin go packers birthday
call for his wife coming up Fifi. Margaretha II didn't hold
up good to see her orange Vale, California 50. And she's the
beginning of the $50 donors, which I will list with name and
location, starting with her and then Eric Drake and tweet field,
Indiana.
Adam Curry: He's a first time Rogan donation needs to deduce
Unknown: you've been D deuced. All right.
John C Dvorak: Cory Cunningham in Warrenton, Virginia
Unknown: you get Gavin Thank you Miss Gavin Gavin McGoldrick
Gavin MC Goldrick.
John C Dvorak: In San Francisco, California, Tim Delvecchio in
Blandon Pennsylvania Andrew reso. in Mineola, New York,
Michael window in or Windell in Matawan, New Jersey. Gary Mau in
nada, Maoist M. Au in Woodland Hills, California Stephen King
in bucks elder South Dakota, Dame Patricia Worthington in
Miami, Florida. Real deals now in San Antonio, Texas. Brendan's
of Ross or Brandon in Port orchard Washington. Alex
Stilinski in Denver, Colorado. And last on our list in
Nashville, Tennessee exists. Jared Yao, Yao Wei Wu ah, yo, I
don't know how to pronounce that name. No, I like I like what you
did. And I want to thank all these people for making show
1570 to the reality that it is
Adam Curry: and thank you everyone who came in under $50
We never read a name there. That's for 100% anonymity. Also
many people on some subscriptions you might want to
check them people I've seen this is Biden omics for you I've seen
some pay pals like Sorry, there was not enough money to make
your automatic donation
John C Dvorak: and you get kicked off you don't get a
check. Yeah,
Adam Curry: and you don't even know. So that's that's the paper
you should check what it is. But thank you is all appreciated
thank you for returning the value of makes us feel good and
makes us feel loved. It makes us feel wanted and it makes us want
to do more great shows for you. So again, thank you for
producing episode 67 and zero no agenda our formula is this. We
go out we get people in the mouth
for those who needed some goat karma, you've got karma
and here is your last your last your list. It was named trail
ball celebrate yesterday on July 11. Also yesterday she did not
want to put herself on the list. James along with Tina curry, my
wife the keeper Happy Birthday to Roger McGuane he celebrates
today sir RJ turns 55 turn 55 on the 12 yard more turn 38 on the
12 Christopher Wright Meyer wishes his wife Heather Fifi
right Meyer a happy birthday for today's sir Nasty Nate turns 35
and Jack Tinkler. Happy birthday to a smokin hot friend Allison
happy birthday from everybody here the best podcast in the
universe. Hey what you screwed up what did I do?
John C Dvorak: You said yesterday was Jays and Tina's
Berto was the 11th
Adam Curry: I'm sorry.
Unknown: Happy birthday to Jay and Tina two days ago
Adam Curry: don't want to be known douchebag in fact,
birthday me out of sin upped the ante once again and makes a
divide counters we're very happy to have her here. They me Alison
Thank you very much. She's adorable. You think she's very
very cool. We have C three three nights. Although we don't know
if Sonia is actually becoming a night and night we think is
probably just Nate using sanyes Pay Pal. Regardless the feeling
or money, the Trident the Trident is out Detroit There you
go beautiful
Unknown: card Mel
Adam Curry: bleeper percuss and all of you have achieved a
knighthood status here at the no agenda show at the roundtable
we're happy to have here and I'm very proud to pronounce the k d
as Sir a dri l night of the FreeBSD sir Herman of the HC and
Sir Nasty Nate for you. We've got hookers and blow rent boys
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You'll be the envy of the next meetup. No agenda knights
Welcome to the roundtable and thank you for supporting the no
agenda show. No one. Speaking of the meetups we have we have a
meet up report from the Down East down south meet up.
Unknown: So I'm Sven I'm here with my wife Elise. Emily's we
got 80% of our human resources and I'm gonna pass it around.
John and Adam producers what's going on? This is Alex. Aspiring
dude named Ben. Love you guys love the show. Keep it up.
Misha, Colin and Emerson.
And the morning this is Tom down he's down south
ITM Dane, Lydia.
Thanks a lot guys. Keep up the hard work and hopefully get some
more Mainers out here for the next one. We're going to try
again for August in Thompson. So keep an eye on the website.
Thanks a lot.
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Thank you for producing that
meetup report. Today we have the so called meetup kicking off at
five o'clock Eastern nevermind Awesome Bar as Cape Coral,
Florida. The North Dakota and Norwegian crossover meetup
should be interesting. That's in minnow, North Dakota, the
starving rooster. Today at six. The Denver City Parks summer
slave brigade Hui hui at 630 in Denver Park City, a Denver City
Park I'm sorry. Definitely join that one if you can. On
Saturday, the Fort Worth monthly meet up one o'clock Texas time
at flips Patio Grill in Fort Worth. The North Carolina tree
had no agenda meet up two o'clock in Kernersville
Kernersville Brewing Company in Kernersville, North Carolina.
Also on Saturday, the shrunken amygdala support group two
o'clock a task group corium Cincinnati, Ohio, the central
Ohio meetup three o'clock in India oak grill, as in Columbus,
the flight of the no agenda meetup over there in Los
Angeles, California. The proud bird is where Leo Bravo will be
hosting you on Saturday. Also on Saturday never again credit in
Suisse, Zurich, Switzerland bar to fit us off. Hey, if you're in
Switzerland, if you're a banker, or if you're a former banker go
to the never again credit in Swiss six o'clock Berlin
Amsterdam, Paris time Bartlett filo Sophia Zurich, Switzerland.
We are truly international. Miami beach south point Point
Park, South Point Park Miami on Saturday 7pm And the next show
day seven sixteenths Tucson Wild West Side meet up one o'clock at
Whiskey roads in Tucson, Arizona and hunters deviated septum
Memorial Miller's ale Braille house Mount Laurel Township
South New Jersey, of course, is Jersey jersey. I understand
there's plenty more meetups to attend. I mean, we have many we
have one coming up on August 26, in Vilnius, Lithuania. How about
that a little late for the NATO conference, but if you miss it
by a month or so there's tons of no agenda meet up. This is where
you find your community. This is where anybody can attend.
Everybody will get along with you. You'll get along with
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it's the connection that gives you protection no agenda
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Unknown: You want to go hang out with Dyson days you'd
be triggered
you want to be where everybody feels
Adam Curry: the same? Like a body like a big ass Potty. Potty
potty potty. I have a number of ISOs actually today
John C Dvorak: oh good because I only have to play mine for
Adam Curry: a second. Okay, yes. All right. What are your
John C Dvorak: somebody with I think a kind of a Cockney accent
saying 100% 100% Australian 100% 100% That's not bad. Have
you seen 10%? Yes. And then the other one is what's the other I
saw? Interesting.
Unknown: It's what it's called.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this was just somebody saying it's kind
of interesting. Kinda interest kind of not interesting. Yeah.
Alright, proceed proceed. It was 100% Here's
Adam Curry: some choices she came
Unknown: in or hot and bothered
Adam Curry: I don't know why just like Amy Goodman saying
that. I have this one. grateful. Grateful for your time.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. grateful for your time. I liked
that one.
Adam Curry: You liked that one? Good. Let me see. Well, that's
interesting. I also have 100 ISO 100% I went on to present a
great I don't like that one. This one truth must be spoken.
No, I think I think this one is the one I liked the best man.
This is not what I thought was gonna happen. That's not that
was not my final one. I had a different one. This is weird.
John C Dvorak: You got a good one there. You may have saved
the other one because the grateful for your time I thought
it was a nice. It was sharp sounding. It was clear. Yeah,
it's been muddy.
Adam Curry: I had a really funny one. Now I'm pissed. I caught a
John C Dvorak: fish the other day.
Adam Curry: A huge Hold on a second. What? What happened? Let
me just say something I this is this this oh, here it is. I knew
it. I knew it. Please remain seated for the family photo Come
on. I knew you'd write. I knew it was worth finding. I knew it.
I knew it. I knew it. Please remain seated beauty family
photo.
John C Dvorak: Definitely one of the top of the year. Yeah. So we
say you mentioned you mentioned Vilnius. So let's play. No,
yeah. So we'll track down what was going on there. This
Adam Curry: was the NATO I have this succinct break
John C Dvorak: down. You can follow that beautiful. This is
like the kind of a just a generalized discussion from NTD.
Adam Curry: What is it I'm looking for? Oh, here nice to
meet ya. Oh, hold on a second.
Unknown: People who get their news from Chinese religious
calls
as the NATO Summit is underway with a whole host of issues on
the table. We turn now to NTDs Iris Tao, who's tracking the
meeting on the ground from Vilnius, Lithuania
as NATO leaders gathered here in Vilnius, Lithuania, membership
to the key Alliance dominates discussions at the annual
summit, President Biden today held a one on one meeting with
the President of Turkey, who on the eve of this summit and clear
the path for Sweden to join NATO.
This summit is affirming our commitment to NATO offense,
close allies in NATO, and hope we can make it even stronger. So
welcome.
The meeting also comes as a White House's warning announced
that it will move forward with F 16 cells to Turkey, saying that
a move
that this is in our national interest. It's in the interest
of NATO that Turkey get that capability.
And another major topic here that's at the top of the agenda
is Ukraine's are first to try to join NATO. But that push seems
to be stalled. A summit communique agreed on Tuesday
pledges to extend an invitation for Ukraine to join when quote,
allies agree and conditions are met, adding that the alliance
will support Ukraine and making reforms on its path towards
future membership by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
said in a tweet today that quote certain wording as being
discussed without Ukraine, adding that is unprecedented and
absurd that there's no clear timeline for Ukraine to join.
But President Biden today said that he stood with the NATO's
language.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a meme of Volodymyr Zelensky. At the
family photo event, I guess, at NATO, and everybody's, you know,
dressed up and their evening gowns and they're all taught the
hilt Yeah. And he's just there like, like, a little boy lost
with his with his green army fatigues on or whatever, that's
your choice of clothing very, completely wrong. But you know
that he's an actor, and the central casting only
John C Dvorak: tells him what to do. somebody's telling him what
to do. And he's doing it. Yeah, right. You have Biden saying
something here on NATO, you might want to play it is from
the event and I have to say there's most of his terrible I
think I clean this one up.
Unknown: We agree on the language that we've proposed. Do
you propose to relative to the future of Ukraine being and when
you join, they don't and we're looking for continued to unite.
Adam Curry: NATO. So did they clap for that? Did they? Oh,
very good. Very good. Very good. God
John C Dvorak: clap for everything.
Adam Curry: This so stupid. The man is toast. Although, you
know, the reports that Biden yells at everybody behind the
scenes getting out there. It's pretty interesting, which I
think is plan. Thesis. Yeah, but I think it's just planted. I
have a CBS report about NATO. Thanks, Lithuania
Unknown: dozens of world leaders in town but only one got a
reception like this all the love didn't Wow.
Did you hear that? Was that you?
Adam Curry: Know, someone one
Unknown: got a reception like this. And yet overwhelmed do not
make up for the one thing Ukraine's leader really wants
membership in the Alliance meeting right down the road, not
on dice Neato. Give Ukraine security he pleaded Ukraine will
make NATO stronger. NATO leaders did offer a consolation prize
today that they build as a major breakthrough. Ukraine's future
is in NATO they announced but only after the nation makes
democratic and security sector reforms. This is a big step
Solinsky called it absurd to place vague new conditions on
Ukraine without setting a membership time. table. But some
NATO Allies worry that could draw them into direct
confrontation with Russia. How soon would you like to see
Ukraine become a member of NATO?
John C Dvorak: I can't put a timetable on it for you. NATO
Unknown: countries are making other promises. France is
offering long range missiles, Germany 65 tanks and armored
vehicles.
Adam Curry: Sounds like McCrone got the memo. Oh, give me some.
Some.
John C Dvorak: They actually do these missiles or underwear
according to the defense one newsletter. Yeah, and they have
a range of 250 kilometers, which is not quite enough to hit
Moscow.
Adam Curry: But But France is participating.
John C Dvorak: But now they're participating with these long
range missiles, which means they're going to use these
things. They're pretty big.
Adam Curry: Do not do that. For me. I am participating or giving
you long range missiles, missiles, I
John C Dvorak: gotta use it to probably bomb the shit out of
Crimea. For you. NATO countries
Unknown: are making other promises. France is offering
long range missiles, Germany 65 tanks and armored vehicles, and
11 nations will start training Ukrainian pilots to fly F
sixteens. How long is that training gonna take? Pentagon?
Undersecretary Collin calm.
We're talking about you know, somewhere between 618 months
depending on how well other Ukrainian pilots do? Oh, yeah.
Not far to the east. Russia is watching all of this unfold. The
Russian spokesperson saying today that a new agreement to
allow Sweden to join NATO is clearly negative for Russia. He
vowed countermeasures, though he didn't specify what those might
be Nora.
Adam Curry: So this is a big circle jerk sales conference.
Basically, they don't want these guys NATO they don't want the
war to stop. They want the day bad. Give away all your old
crap. Got some old missiles, send them over there. We'll bet
we're gonna take care of take your people's money, build some
new ones.
John C Dvorak: There was some tweet that's been mummified. Or
some comment that was meme of fighting going around that shows
that one of the generals of one of the NATO generals saying that
this is what turning into one of the greatest testing grounds for
weaponry. No, yeah. That we could ever hope for. Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: the best ever. Best Ever. There was a very funny
moment at the State Department. Spokes hole, Matthew Miller was
so anxious and so just anxious to get the truth out that he let
it slip out twice, even though he was corrected two things.
Unknown: I will say. With respect to your first question.
We believe the war has been a strategic failure for Ukraine.
The Secretary spoke to this in a speech he gave in Helsinki. Last
month I believe it was because I'm sorry, excuse me a strategic
failure for Ukraine. Thank you for the question. Which is I
need more than one correct correction today. So this is the
first time at the podium for a week I'm a little raw. I'm
apparently a little rusty. I never expected you guys to see
the high ground. I'm a little rusty, I guess.
Adam Curry: You couldn't really hear but Matt Lee and they're
saying Well, I never thought nobody expected you to go all
the way to the truth. So twice he says strategic failure for
Ukraine. Truth wants to come out obviously boots on the ground
report regarding the dud rates of the cluster bombs. I strapped
munitions on aircraft in the military. Here's what I've been
told about American dud rates, our rates of failure are
actually much higher than other countries. The reason is all the
safety mechanisms to prevent the Oort ordinance by the way is not
ordinance it's ordinance from blowing up on the flight line.
Our ordinance has many fail safes that prevent premature
explosion. Some use radar or altimeters to determine if they
are in freefall other use mechanical devices to determine
spin or acceleration, most have more than one mechanism that
must be triggered to go boom, in many cases ordinance does not go
off because they are designed to failsafe make sense. Makes a
John C Dvorak: lot of sense is that is the way we operate and
so do we have more duds than probably the Russians who are
blowing up themselves? I'm sure.
Adam Curry: So on friends 24 Douchebag. Doug came in to
explain as to splain why it's okay for it. Yes. Why it's okay
for us to be, you know, basically giving cluster bombs
cluster munitions to Ukraine. And he does a pretty good job of
trying to explain why it's okay when we do it, and actually
listening to this. I think I know why we're really sending
those cluster bombs over there. Listen,
Unknown: yeah, well, first of all, you're right. 123 countries
have signed on to and now 15 year old convention banning
cluster munitions. And it's kind of outdated. It did so because
these aren't just any weapons, they're bombs that break into
small bomblets dispersed over a wide area of the battlefield.
And also clearly in areas where civilians after the war will be
walking around, and they tend to linger there and they could
explode years later, they can mean grievously harm and kill
civilians, which is why they have raised such ferocious
objections from humanitarians from human rights groups and
just ordinary people.
Adam Curry: The criticisms ordinary people don't want to
get blowed up against them
Unknown: in a nutshell is look just because Grata is accused of
atrocities, such as rape, such as torture, such as executing
civilians, among other war crimes doesn't mean that Ukraine
should stoop to the same level that there should be some this
issue of unjust war that there is a moral ground is a benefit
to retaining that moral high ground, which you will
completely be deprived if you start doing what your enemy
does, and using cluster munitions. So yes, has Russia
been accused of using these massively since the beginning of
the war cluster bombs are accused of using them
indiscriminately in civilian heavily populated civilian
areas? Yes, as well. Should does Ukraine say it won't be doing
that?
Adam Curry: Have you seen any reports of Russia using cluster
bombs in civilian areas during the Ukraine war?
John C Dvorak: Have the Ukraine? Have you seen any phone videos
of these bombs going off or anywhere nearby or anything
from? No, I have not. Neither have I? Yes,
Unknown: it does say that they say there'll be concentrating on
areas Russian occupied territory with our troops, concentrated
troop for nations to flush them out of dug in trenches. Now
moving on all of those arguments aside, what the allies are
saying. And two thirds of NATO allies have signed on to this
convention or basically no take Spain, it says no to cluster
munitions. Yes, to Ukraine's legitimate defense. Now,
Ukraine, as you would surmise, will say that this is part of
our legitimate defense. But other countries Germany is
taking a stance right now they do not use or produced cluster
munitions, they will not ship and supply others with cluster
munitions. At the same time, its president said in the past
couple of days, it's not going to block the US decision. It
can't block the US now the UK is this was
Adam Curry: interesting. This actually happened during NATO,
there was an open Hot Mic hot mic. And I think was the UK
Defence Minister said hey, we're not going to act as Amazon to
deliver America's cluster bombs,
Unknown: taking a different position, basically, user
produced and it is not going to ship and it hasn't said anything
about where it stands. With really respect to this US
decision. Canada did set against it a lot of other allies. So
there are a host of countries including I believe, Poland and
Lithuania who never signed on to the convention. These are the
countries in the frontlines of Russia have seen Russia's
aggression, they are more inclined to give the nod to the
US does not cluster munitions. But it clearly has caused a
split among allies among this broader philosophical debate,
the moral, the ethical issues, the question of what isn't just
war, is there? Is there such a thing as one side being more
justified in using cluster munitions than another side if
they're using the two different purposes?
Adam Curry: Here's my analysis of douchebag. Doug, these
cluster munitions are being used in one particular area, which is
a swath swath of land, which I believe will be the new DMZ, the
demilitarized zone, you won't be able to walk there, you'll get
blown up because of our stupid cluster bombs. And this will be
part of the solution. Okay, Russia, you're here. Ukraine.
You're over there. This is the DMZ. What do you think?
John C Dvorak: Interesting idea. Russians have planted mines all
over it. Probably the same area?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, no. But Ukraine, no Ukraine already
mined there. They've already mined that area.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So maybe it's maybe they are going to
create some sort of a dead zone.
Adam Curry: So there was a report which came out in Reuters
yesterday. That kind of gave gave a headline which a lot of
people are seeing as a as a as a fail for the West. As UN
Secretary General Antonio Guterres has proposed to Russian
President Vladimir Putin, that he extended deal to allow the
safe Black Sea export of grain from Ukraine in return for
connecting a subsidiary of Russia's agricultural bank back
up to the Swift international payment system. So interesting.
So the so this grain deal ends, I think, to Monday, and it's a
real problem. If you look at this reports coming from Poland,
because you know, Poland is now just is getting crap grain than
wheat or whatever it is crap and and dogs and cats are dying in
like massive numbers because of just the shit this that's being
put into food there yeah yeah there's reports of dogs and cats
in Poland dying and apparently is because they feeding the crap
grain to the to the pigs in the in the chickens that then is put
into dog and cat food and is what it's what I'm hearing. But
anyway back to the Swift thing. So so this is now kind of being
shoved Well, you know they failed with with the, with this
new deal that the gore terrace is is suggesting. But really
it's much worse than that. Because this was just one of the
many demands that Russia had previously be and what the main
thing they wanted is here it is. They want the pipeline the
ammonia pipeline to be reinstated to be repaired. This
is really about the ammonia pipe and remember there was a little
story that yeah, the
John C Dvorak: ammonia pipeline going from where to where
Adam Curry: was second I have it here somewhere. Where's the I
thought it was here. Shoot Hold on a second. Oh, no, I can't
find it. Why can't find it was one it was like one of these
men. Oh, here it is on several demands. I'm sorry. Here we go.
The Black Sea grain initiative. Oh, crikey. Sorry. Just like I'm
failing. I'm failing like a mofo here people. Oh, now it has now
I can't get over Ah, I don't have the answer for your job.
It's a I had it. And I don't have it anymore. But the ammonia
pipeline is apparently is what this really is about. And
everybody needs that. The ammonia is and maybe you could
be able to tell us more about that. But the ammonia is
incredibly important. We need to make and fertilize. Yeah,
exactly. Which is if you go back to some of the original problems
with Russia, it was all about we had a fertilizer shortage.
Remember, the end of COVID whole thing about it. We are
misdirections has
John C Dvorak: control of the group certain grain that
controls of Black Sea export control of their grain, Ukraine
grain and all the fertilizer.
Adam Curry: And so this is not helping Africa, nations in
Africa.
John C Dvorak: They're not having any fun with it.
Adam Curry: They're screwed. So I don't know. So part of this
reconnection to Swift that was just one of the many demands.
But the main thing was we need this. We need this pipeline
restored. So I'm still trying to get to that page, but I'm going
to archive.org and is trying to parse the page. It's never gonna
work. So there's a lot more going on. It seems like like
Russia has the upper hand on a lot of this stuff. And the Swift
reconnection thing that's pretty interesting, and it will be
John C Dvorak: less not hasn't been played up at all.
Adam Curry: JP Morgan Chase will start processing some Russian
Grain Export payments with reassurances from the US
government. Well, how about that?
John C Dvorak: What kind of what kind of a sanction is this,
right? That's bullcrap. No, Russia has an upper hand in a
lot just because of the the nature of that country being
what it is, has always had an upper hand in a lot of things so
that's all I want to do is be left alone.
Adam Curry: So here's your Russia's demands. I got it.
Finally, this is from June 16. So this is this has nothing to
month ago. Yeah. But But now they say oh, we were connected
reconnected but so they they're folding for one. The brushes
demands in March, they actually demanded. They said Moscow wants
the Russian agriculture bank reconnected to the Swift payment
system. So they're buckling because Russia demanded it. The
United Nations is we're okay. resumption of its black sea
ammonia exports via a pipeline from Russia's Togliatti to
Ukraine's PIF Denny port. The pipeline, which pumped up to 2.5
million tons of ammonia and annually was shut down by the
war. In September, Reuters reported that UN proposed the
Russian fertilizer producer girl can sell us ammonia to us
headquarter commodities trader travaux once it reaches the
Russia Ukraine border by the pipeline, you see what these
eight holes were doing. You gotta sell that to us. Oh my
gosh, until the ammonia pipeline has restarted Moscow said it
will limit the number of vessels allowed to travel to the piff
Denny port under the Black Sea grain deal. Un data shows no
ships have visited PIF Denny port for more than a month. Last
week Russia accused that was this is back in June. Ukrainian
forces are blowing up part of the pipeline the world's longest
carrying ammonia and Ukraine's Kharkiv region. The regional
Ukraine governor said Russia had shelled the pipeline, because
that makes so much sense. Neither side provided any
evidence. More than 400,000 tons of Russian fertilizer was
initially stranded in European Union ports after the war
started, the UN officials have negotiated it's released for
export to Africa after Russia said it would be donated. So so
be Russia has a lot of cards here. A lot. And we're gonna go
pretty hungry. Well, maybe not what lab meat will be okay,
John C Dvorak: yo, yo, let me see. If you don't mind jumping
to China and its influence in Africa, and then now the more
latest efforts are in Latin America. Mm hmm. I think we
should play these clips.
Unknown: Mark our shot guys. Good to have you on the show.
China's rapidly expanding its military and surveillance in
Latin America serves across Latin America, including at a
strategic port in Argentina. Could you lay out for us? What
is China doing to expand its influence in the region,
we're also doing a lot. Basically, over the last 20
years, they shifted to being soft America's main commercial
partner, except for Mexico to basically dominate the region,
economically. And one key thing they have been doing here, which
I think is of concern, is the fact that they have been
expanding predatory loans. So they have their infrastructure
Belt and Road project. They have other infrastructure projects.
And what they do, according to a study by widow and Mary
University, which was a by a lab called Pay data, is that they
give very different loans than what you might expect from other
copies or from Western copies, which they have a lot of strings
attached to them, which gives them huge leverage now to
further their interests in any other country. And in
specifically in Latin America. They have been sponsoring their
water paratus they have a military run space base in
Argentina. We're talking about another spy base in Cuba, which
was recently on the news in the US does a lot of stake for
Russia. Donald Trump don't trust China, China is as Hoh, same
guy.
John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is, is that they're
just using, as you remember a decade ago, and we were kind of
harping on the on the book. Confessions of an economic
hitman by Perkins the original, the original. Yeah. It's just
using our tricks.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Go verbalised Go in rebuild. But
you don't like it. We'll send the jackals in. That's all our
tricks.
John C Dvorak: Are to that I
Adam Curry: only have three. This is what I don't understand.
I have oh,
John C Dvorak: yes, there is. Part Two has been excised. And
part three,
Unknown: right now that US Congress, I think Brazil, for
instance, my whole country, that fourth largest food producer in
the world, and the breadbasket of critical materials, which the
US needs to produce jets, semiconductors and other
critical items. But the rest is I think that poultry that was
third of its economy, but in the hands of shame, it's still
letting them do that. It's still I think, this country where I am
right now. But for the last 20 years, the US has been lacking
China power to loan 10s of billions of dollars to
Venezuela, which has enabled them to feel the US was drugs,
but on purpose. This is not about making money. This is stay
true and cartels really flooding the US with drugs and purples as
the DOJ has stated when they charge Nicolas Maduro, the
president of Venezuela, a narco terrorism charge, it's for
conspiracy to flood your assets. Okay, now, who is enabling
office? It's the Chinese bonds. So I think you are taking his
word. But to be quite honest, it's getting back to your
question. I don't think there's much to be done right now.
Because it's kind of going into critical mass that the US needs
to start taking Latin American more seriously. And taking
democracy in the southern hemisphere more seriously.
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you, we can't play these clips anymore.
If you're not reading along with the words, it's almost
impossible to understand guys.
John C Dvorak: The guy is a bad clip because, by the way, and it
was it is a better clip than it was
Adam Curry: bollocks to Adobe.
John C Dvorak: But the problem was with the guy's a fast
talker, and he's got a very thick Portuguese accent, which
makes it very hard done.
Adam Curry: Yes. Bad combo. Well, hold on. I have a China
clip, which is actually well,
Unknown: overnight micros Talk revealed that a Chinese hacking
organization broke into the email for 25 major
organizations, including government agencies, Trevor also
is tracking the latest. Good morning, Trevor.
Good morning. George is a very alarming announcement from
Microsoft. They say this started in May. And while they didn't
specify which organizations were hit, they have revealed some of
them, as you say, are government agencies. And Microsoft says the
group behind this is known as Storm 0558. The company claims
this is a spy agency that's based in China. And we're told
storm gain access to these organizations emails by getting
into individual accounts. And what that means is at this
point, it's not clear how much data or information that we're
actually able to access that Microsoft says the threat has
since been completely mitigated. They've added new automated
systems to detect these kinds of hacks. But they say cyber
attacks are becoming much more common and a lot more
sophisticated in any individual could be targeted.
Adam Curry: Man, why are we using? Why don't we use open
source stuff, but why are we using Microsoft for all our
sensitive issue? Is
John C Dvorak: this are they talking about outlook accounts?
Are they talking about the mail servers that Microsoft Exchange
Server, you're talking about? What are they talking about?
What are you talking about exchange? Are they talking about
Outlook account? I have a
Adam Curry: longer clip if you want.
John C Dvorak: Does it have it in there?
Adam Curry: I'm not sure it's from ABC it must be good.
Unknown: Overnight. NBC News confirmed the Commerce
Department was also targeted during a recent breach of
Microsoft Security linked to hackers based in China. Say the
hackers targeted Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo emails
beginning in May,
Adam Curry: you can have her she's using what for the yucks?
What they try
John C Dvorak: and remember what she wrote yesterday.
Adam Curry: Bill was Bill Gates was just there. Hey, gee, Hey,
baby, you want access to Gina Ron Mundos. You met at
Unknown: the castle protected for about a month the State
Department confirms it was targeted,
Adam Curry: saying it's a month a month. What is swift action,
Unknown: we took immediate steps to secure our system. immediate
steps to notify Microsoft of the event. The incident remains
under investigation. And we continuously monitor our
networks and update our security procedures. Sure
cyber breach started just before Secretary of State Antony
Blinken traveled to China in June. And while the US Commerce
Department has been imposing sanctions on Beijing,
then they head over 30 days before it was even reported, and
almost another 30 days before it was fully mitigated. So this is
a very long period of time to gain access.
Sources say it appears likely that the hackers got access to
high value class sources say
John C Dvorak: so they were added and sources may be
conservative codec for all practical purposes for 60 days,
two months. Yes, worth of State Department valuable emails, that
kind of stuff that WikiLeaks would be loved to have stuff
that they used to
Adam Curry: Ukraine was suffered a strategic loss because that's
what the State Department interest probably
John C Dvorak: sounded in there about the Ukrainian war. This is
a disaster.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's just kind of played off. As you
know, hey, we we've alerted Microsoft that their stuffs no
good
Unknown: provide information. But the threat is growing. The
number of cyber attacks affecting government
organizations Rose 95% In the last half of 2022. Compared to
the previous year, stopping the threat goes far beyond
protecting passwords. Experts say it requires spotting
suspicious activity ahead of time,
artificial intelligence and machine learning can do all
right now we go instead of detecting in 30 days, we should
have detected in 30 milliseconds. And if we could do
that, we have the ability to stop these types of attacks.
Microsoft says email data from 25 organizations was exposed.
The Chinese government responded to the reports overnight by
criticizing the US saying quote, the US is the world's biggest
hacking empire.
Oh, yeah. Well, that's true.
John C Dvorak: But it's true. But what's it got to do with
anything? That
Adam Curry: story, I think somehow is related to this
story.
John C Dvorak: John Solomon, you just broke news moments ago that
the Secret Service now is asking to update lawmakers in a private
area tomorrow regarding the cocaine and Joe Biden White
House. What does that mean? What do you know,
Unknown: what signals there's been a development in the
original timetable was for the House Oversight Committee to be
briefed on the week of January 24. Today, they reached out to
the chairman comer asked to move that up till 10am tomorrow so
10am Tomorrow in a skiff that's a intelligence briefing room a
secure room normally reserved for classified information.
lawmakers who have the appropriate clearance can go in
and get a briefing on this. This comes as we know that the Secret
Service was running fingerprints and DNA analysis on the bag of
cocaine to see what evidence they might be derived from it.
Lawmakers are scrambling they're going to show up tomorrow. It's
going to be a very big day, but moving it up signals that
there's been some foreign Have a development in the
investigation?
Adam Curry: Yeah, Skiff Hello? Oh, it's got to be secret
because you know, otherwise China might know immediately if
they emailed it around. This is This is fun. Nothing is fun.
This is really fun. It's a fun. It's a fun little
John C Dvorak: bag that China says for talking about him. I
want to have a couple clips this China influence in the USA, this
is a I have his name written down swords doesn't really
matter what he says more than what we is. And this is
interesting.
Unknown: Well, the CCP the you know, the under President Trump,
the FBI had a China project they were they were going after
Chinese actors in the United States. They are actively
investigating them and their links to, you know, to American
citizens, American legislators, etc. Biden stopped that he
canceled there. Well, that should be reinvent should be
reinstituted straightaway.
John C Dvorak: Heaven forbid we stop the Chinese from taking
over the places. Now part two is later in this discussion. And I
thought it was interesting because the first thing that
comes to mind to me is Eric Swalwell. Who is on the
Intelligence Committee Langfang you know,
Unknown: loyalty owes should be brought back and security
clearances should be massively amped up that very superficial
right now, you know, no other country it will Russia or China
would never allow anybody who had a proud American record to
become the head of the KGB or the Chinese intelligence
services. So so this is America's number one problem
massively lacks internal security, no loyalty oaths, no
background checks. There's no security checks on senators or
congressmen for serving on committees. I think that should
be another thing that should be done. Anybody who wants to serve
on a sensitive committee, you want to serve up serve on
Homeland Security, services, intelligence, you should have a
background check. You should have a clearance for that.
Currently, there are no clearances for those positions.
You have to get a clearance to work in CIA, but not to hit the
the Senate Intelligence Committee, or the House
Intelligence Committee. That's a massive loophole in the system
that has to be closed.
Oh, no, an outrage wall wells wall. Man,
Adam Curry: all right, I need to do a little big farm. It'll be
my last and you can wind it up with whatever you have. Because
there's trouble in paradise. And the story they in the UK they've
started to investigate this. Now it's wafted over to the United
States we have problems
Unknown: a new investigation this morning into the safety of
ozempic and other drugs. Regulators in Europe are looking
into a possible link between the drugs and suicidal thoughts
after three people who use the drugs reported thoughts of
suicide and self harm go to any company that makes the drug says
studies found no such connection for people have turned to
ozempic to lose weight, but it was approved by the FDA to treat
diabetes.
Adam Curry: Now, before I played the second clip, I want you to
know that Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister of the United
Kingdom's has now become a columnist for a leading
newspaper and see if I
John C Dvorak: can get his everybody's trying to get into
the act.
Adam Curry: And he reviewed ozempic By taking it he thought
that this would be the the master drug for him this would
work perfectly, because you know, he's fat.
John C Dvorak: And that guy, but it looks like it looks like a
guy who knows how to be fat and
Adam Curry: he wrote a column wonder drug I hoped would stop
my raves for cheddar and Cerrito didn't work for me Daily Mail.
And here's the bit that I thought was the best. So for
weeks, I jabbed my stomach and for weeks it worked
effortlessly. I pushed aside the puddings. And the second
helpings wasn't it amazing. I said to myself, how how little
food you really need. I must have been losing four or five
pounds a week, maybe more when all at once it started to go
wrong. I don't know why exactly. Maybe it was something to do
with constantly flying around the world and changing time
zones. But I started to dread the injections because they were
making me feel ill. One minute I will be fine. The next minute I
will be talking to Ralph on the big white phone.
John C Dvorak: Ralph, he's talking about puking Yes,
Adam Curry: on the big white foam and the big white phone of
a friend that heard that one in decades. And I'm afraid that I
decided I couldn't go on. For now I'm back to exercising
willpower but look at my colleagues leaner but not
hungrier. And I hope that if science can do it for them,
maybe one day it can help me and everyone else. So just puking up
and There's a problem with ozempic. And this problem of
suicidal thoughts, which if it really was just three people who
reported Oh, I think I want to kill myself. Would it be a big
story like that? No, I don't think so. Time to bring in Dr.
Jen. Dr. Jen America saver doctor is back as she's
America's favorite doctor. Just so you know.
Unknown: Dr. Jenn, America's favorite doctor is back. And
we've talked a lot about ozempic And then last drugs, but now
there's this concerning news The EU is investigating after there
have been suicidal thoughts reported on these medications.
Yeah,
and so we want to do a deep dive on this because of course, as
you said, this is such a popular drug category, deep dive
worldwide, but here in the US as well that this headline, listen
to
Adam Curry: this big pharma prostitute. I'm sorry, I'm just
gonna say she is bought and paid for is the right word. Dan,
thank you. Well, what was that the wrong word? Yeah, horrible.
Unknown: Kind of getting a lot of attention, in my opinion for
the wrong medical reasons. In Europe in Iceland. There were
three reported cases of suicidal thoughts in people taking
ozempic. So the EU is looking into this. The drugmaker Novo
Nordisk is, of course, also looking into brings up a bigger
issue of a term in medicine and public health that we use called
background rate and background incidence.
Adam Curry: So background rate background incidents, this is
nothing to worry about. It's background noise, you have
Unknown: to think of this as a fraction, right? In the general
population. There's a background rate of people, unfortunately,
every single day who have suicidal thoughts, then there's
a background rate of people taking these class of
medications, these GLP one agonists, where they overlap, if
you think of like overlapping circles, that's the area that's
of interest, right? We want to know if it's not just an
observation or an observed effect, but a cause and effect,
right, that the suicidal thinking was actually caused by
these medications. Right now, there's no evidence of that.
Because again, this is something that occurs every single day.
But of course, with the popularity of it, the more
people who take any drug, the more even a rare risk of
something could be expected to go up.
So is it reason to be concerned
because when I read the headline, I was like, oh,
because everybody still don't think
there's evidence right now that there's reason to be concerned
for suicidal thinking of this class of medication. But there
is always reason to be concerned with the possibility of a rare
conversation about a Venn diagram.
John C Dvorak: Nothing that you layer off,
Adam Curry: it's all great to worry about is background noise.
It's background rage. It's just, I mean, of course, people take
our drugs that are already suicidal from the other drugs
we're giving them. Hello. So obviously suicidal
John C Dvorak: to take any of them to begin with,
Adam Curry: Hey, we are nominated for an award. Again,
again, when's the last time? Oh, no. It if the American Liberty
awards. Okay, this is not just some sub sub little podcast
award. These are broadcast awards, who we are nominated in
the Best analyst broadcast category. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's us. No, I
Adam Curry: thought so too. We're up there with let's see.
Jay Dyer. I have no idea. Gerald Cilenti Mike Adams, the health
Ranger.
John C Dvorak: Mike Adams.
Adam Curry: He's a best broadcast.
John C Dvorak: He's not a Pete Santilli merch anybody that's a
competitor
Adam Curry: especially not Sarah Gonzalez. Who's Oh, she's like
she's a blaze girl.
Unknown: A Blaze girl is grown Charlie Robinson.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we we have a shot we ever and what's
interesting. They don't say no, they don't give the show names.
They give the people name. So it would be an actual personal
award for you and for me as people. They have my middle
initial they do Adam curry and John J HNSI. J
John C Dvorak: Jhansi.
Adam Curry: John Cena this John C. Dvorak. They did it properly,
which is nice.
John C Dvorak: So I got two clips to get us out. Okay. And
that is since you were talking about farm, I got farmer clips.
And this was going on in Congress. I have an app some
more clips about. This has been fun. This has been great. The
next show, but this is fun. And there's a lot of funny stuff.
And this is the COVID they're older investigating COVID
mainstream media doesn't want to cover this but it's online. You
can get these some of these clips. Yeah. And here's a COVID.
It's about COVID origins. And there's some funny stuff coming
up and here's clip one.
Unknown: The House Select Subcommittee on the corona virus
pandemic is looking closely at the origins of the CCP virus.
Yeah, for this hearing they brought in the office.
Adam Curry: What news outlet says CCP virus? What is this?
John C Dvorak: Let me think it couldn't
Adam Curry: be
Unknown: this C is in D. D is the peer reviewed article, the
proximal origin of SARS cov. Two published in March 2020. It said
the virus most likely occurred naturally and did not come from
a lab. One of the things lawmakers keyed in on was that
both authors actually supported the lab leak theory. Shortly
before the draft was published, Representative Nicole
Malliotakis said this,
Dr. Garry went so far as to say, quote, I really can't think of a
plausible natural scenario when you get from the bat virus or
one very similar to it. So COVID-19, where you insert
exactly four amino acids, 12 nucleotides, and all have to be
added at the exact same time to gain this function. I just can't
figure out how this gets accomplished in nature, unquote.
So then, within a matter of days, something changed. And
that's what this committee is trying to get to the bottom of
Professor Robert Geary explained how his view of the origin of
the virus changed during that time.
The scientific literature, you know, the publication of the
Pangolin genomic sequence
exactly what my colleague Kara brought up.
Yes, exactly. And it was a very important piece of data, because
it showed that a lot of the theories about you know, the
virus having been engineered or put together in a laboratory
were not true, because here was a virus in nature that had an
receptor binding domain with exactly
Adam Curry: what a distraction this interesting, but Okay, does
it get fun?
John C Dvorak: The next time I have to eclipse the neck. The
point is, is that they were on board of one theory. And then it
was like two days later, they changed their complete opinion
based on one, some discussion about pangolin de bas, and
Penguin. The Penguin was my favorite poor venue pangolin.
And they still have I don't know if they brought this up, but I
didn't listen to the whole hearing what you think that day
to ask have you? Have you caught the virus in the wild? Actually,
in an animal they dancers? No, no,
Adam Curry: don't don't even Don't even start with that. Stop
with your logic. And Congressman,
Unknown: Dr. Rich McCormick, a physician, which disputed the
theory that the virus came naturally from a pangolin or any
other animal,
if it exists in the species, it has to be able to propagate and
continue. It doesn't just go away. It's not just found in the
same proximity of a species but inside the species with
antibodies and resistance. To say that it's just because it's
in the same area somewhere that a dog was found, or a cat was
found, or a pig, or whatever you want to say, is for me, just
like smear some COVID on this wouldn't say, look, it came from
this would to give our people who are watching this where
maybe not medical background to understand that's obviously
impossible. Just like it's impossible to have a virus that
exists inside of an animal species go away, or not have any
sort of immune response or any propagation, if that's where it
came from the beginning.
And Representative Rodney Jackson, also a physician said
that you gathered
every bit of this new additional information, which we don't know
exactly what it was or where it came from. You completely
changed your hypothesis, you collaborated with your co
authors, and you wrote the proximal origins paper all in
that period of time. I just want to know my time's up. But I just
want you to know that sounds completely ridiculous to the
American people. And it's
the FBI and the Department of Energy have both said that
COVID-19 likely came from a lab.
Adam Curry: Well, man, it's taken me back years and years
ago, that's the first thing we said is bullcrap. This, we know
this. Well, we wasn't
John C Dvorak: nice. It was the French Nobel Prize writing.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Is that guy when
John C Dvorak: he looked at the sequence, and he said, This is
lab made, and there's HIV in there, which they still don't
like to discuss. No. And he says, this is just some lab
thing. And he had some thesis about why it would have been
invented in the first place, which was I thought generous on
his party thought it might be some mechanism for vaccinations,
the creative back
Adam Curry: so using and I thought that's very generous.
Yes.
John C Dvorak: And nothing is, you know, some some would you
call germ warfare thing going on, which is what it was. And by
the way, just to get just to finish up, I just got to I did
get a note from right now. From one of our listeners. Yes, that
brought up the Palm Island thing which I Yes. Which you mentioned
I mentioned is probably the source for
Unknown: limes, Miami's Lyme disease. Yeah. And
John C Dvorak: producer Mike, and he says, I grew up in
Montauk, New York, New York. Plum Island was a short short
boat ride away. Everyone knew limes was from that lab. It was
a biological weapons lab. It was a small island only accessible
by boat with one building and military security. Yeah, so the
locals all knew it. Yeah, limes disease which is a plague in
this country. Thank you, US government.
Adam Curry: Since I've recently become a consumer of the
product, would you mind playing us out with your kratom clip?
Because I have no idea what it is. But I have recently been
given some some kratom that
John C Dvorak: oh, well this is drink bankable. I just find that
on the list. Yes, this is a clip that I'm not sure what the what
the point of it is. It has a it has a cautionary tale at the
same time. Is it maybe a good thing or a bad thing? Is I think
inconclusive, but play it
Adam Curry: well hold on a second. So one of our producers
makes kratom himself and a bottles it in, in beer bottles.
No. Of course not used. And he has shipped us some and Tina and
I have both tried it. I find that one bottle gives me a
pleasant a pleasant kind of body buzz. Yeah, it's not and I was
very much they gave you some energy to know didn't get any
energy. I was very skeptical. I didn't really want to I mean
it's been sitting around for a while but Texas slim came by
said you got kratom said yeah, he says, Oh, I'll drink it. So I
watched him drink a bottle. And after he did not keel over, I'm
like, Okay, I'll try it. And the team doesn't really like it but
it tastes good. I would say it's more like I said that horrible
stuff. People drink a Ken Bucha she's like, you know, it's
fermented, but it doesn't taste horrible. And it gives you a
pleasant buzz. I was pleasantly surprised and that's why I'm
curious about your NT law. Here
John C Dvorak: we finished the show.
Unknown: A drug called Kratom is making headlines more and more
frequently, the mostly unregulated drugs spreading
throughout America at nightclubs and gas stations and on the
internet Gods now because of its harmful effects. It's facing
regulation and wrongful death lawsuit harmful effects.
Adam Curry: I can't wait to pop open a bottle after the show
Unknown: NTDs fey quarter has more kratom an herbal drug with
opioid like effects is spreading across America.
There's like a very low key euphoric feeling and also like a
boost in energy
Samer Fawaz is a former kratom user who had been using it for
around six years, a friend introduced him to the drug and
he bought it online in a powdered form he would use it
regularly to get energy but for laws later realized he was
becoming dependent on it
and when I got off of it, I felt a significant withdrawals for a
few weeks. You know, major stomach issues like low very low
grade depression and loss of energy completely, like I had to
really re calibrate back to normal
only after breaking the addiction did he realize it had
been numbing his emotions and causing him stomach problems now
that he's drug free, he says it's amazing to not be
controlled by the need to use substances. Luckily for was
didn't experience major side effects, but others who have
used it in higher doses or in combination with other drugs
have
side effects everything from like nausea and diarrhea and
constipation. So a lot in the digestive system area, and also
the nervous system. And it sucks. Cognition memory
confusion. gait, gait, gate,
Adam Curry: come on this. This is very odd, as you know what
it's probably because it's very healthy and beneficial. These
reports come out. It's possible this makes no sense. I'm gonna
have a bottle right after the show. So if you don't hear from
me you know, it's a cranial hospital is the kratom it's the
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curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm going
to enjoy summer beginning today and it probably ending in two
days.
Adam Curry: Your name is
John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm sorry. am John C. Dvorak
Adam Curry: until we meet again, that will be on Sunday just a
few short days away from now. Remember I said the
vorak.org/and A and adios, mofos Hui Hui, and such
Unknown: They want control of everybody. Now what do they
want? They want fewer people. They think it's already too
many. I think that's what they've been saying in the
United Nations for a long time. But the facts don't bear that
out because less and less people are living in poverty and our
knowledge of agriculture is growing our knowledge of
genetics is growing, and we're able to grow way more food now
than we were then. And food is the basis of how many people can
be here.
Adam Curry: I like that theory just starves to death
Unknown: I said John C has the best add ons for audio PRD short
session notes don't get the boys P No jingles no karma keep it
short and sweet as a black man I got some questions about black
Lindsey Graham handover in itself cackalacky taken them
beating your How do you get reelected? This guy is such a
sad when Trump in every sense Russian services or is really
good news. That's what he said. Never been a fan with this
manual Lindsey Graham. Trump this and Biden doesn't really
know he's barely alive at 1% I mean, his son Hunter got a
sweetheart of a deal the election was the most secure in
US history and not a steal and then he won run in 2014
excitement for him can even hide at the end of the world is paid
to play by the Boulais I mean going all in on the charm
offensive front a worldwide phenomenon is this what you want
Adam Curry: so it seems to me that they're just trying to
slowly kill everybody know what The Population Bomb people have
been about since the 70s Yeah.
Unknown: Oh my god. Oh right
John C Dvorak: 3456
Going down deep before we went any further is this particular
clip because it does bring out an issue that I think is
floating around Canada is a sub text around just like being in a
different domain it is like being in a different dimension
you just float around and don't cause trouble apparently people
are floating around at night when you're in them fooling
around them whether you're in him for a little short term or
long term around and so they're floating around and they're
stringing we'd have telephone poles around why is he was
floating around that's what I thought the story was about I
got around just before we started doing our show this
stuff was floating around
Unknown: Yes By the way Bibles
John C Dvorak: Bibles Bibles parent Bibles baby that is right
get some cookies is called is called physical
Unknown: models
Adam Curry: models very difficult to stay sane. I smoke
a lot of weed and I do the show so good. Christina curry Tina
the keeper Mimi JP adorable to share the shield and the whole
curry DeVore acknowledge and family
John C Dvorak: being a company with the insane no agenda
Unknown: Mofo vorak.org/and Please remain seated for the
family photo