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John C Dvorak: game set match
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curry Jhansi Devora July 13 2023

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Adam Curry: This Year Award
winning give our nation media

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assassination episode 1572. This
is no agenda, marking up the DMZ

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and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country

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here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where our summer

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has finally begun, at least for
a day I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Our summer is hot
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John C Dvorak: is summer for
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Adam Curry: we have like 105 106
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know, it's all climate change
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. It's
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last 100 years there's been
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Adam Curry: a change its climate
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proving it to its its climate
change. Most of

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Unknown: California is seeing
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degrees above normal. And Las
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record of 118 degrees this
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Las Vegas. And this is kind of a
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interested in if Las Vegas
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their cap that would break an
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being out at the National
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asking them why is it 117? Well,
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might even be able

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to break that heat is the
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US, with an average of nearly
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due to more days over 90
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California. At least 12 homes
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rolling hills, and 16 others are
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me that record rains this year
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landslides. And it's often the
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landslides here. In the coming
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taking a closer look at what
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change in big cities. A new
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Chicago has warmed by more than
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The effects of climate change
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California due in part to
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Adam Curry: I want to stay with
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thanks to being at.io was able
to find the following clip from

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no agenda episode one. I live in
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always been a hellhole. If only
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no clips. News article. Yes, it
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and we think it was 1860 and he
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understand how anyone could or
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because it is hell on earth with
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earthquakes. It's always been a
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in 2020 Oh, this is me. I know
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episodes ago. It's always been a
hellhole. There's nothing new

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it's documented DACA yes proof
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John C Dvorak: we always had
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Adam Curry: as I predicted just
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Unknown: a case of extreme
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passengers on board in the
Legion Airlines Flight were

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injured when the plane was hit
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nearly full from Asheville,
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Clearwater airport in Florida.
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petrifying a flight attendant
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are not like threatened sent

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Adam Curry: into the air. Now
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happening is in order to limit
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John C Dvorak: just avoid the
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Adam Curry: Yes, it's it's
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report. Hey, we got some chop
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passengers and crew on a legion
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per flight aware the plane
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attendants were taken to the
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crew are on board. One passenger
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saw a flight attendant being
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all of us and then we hit

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where literally, she flew up in
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this is at least the third
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involving serious injuries. And
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will be investigating this
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the NTSB and the FAA. Nora. That
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Marquez. Thank you.

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Adam Curry: So let's get into
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John C Dvorak: Before we do
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fact that this new FAA dude
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never flown doesn't fly much. Is
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about the business. Oh, well,
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Adam Curry: It's body armor.
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John C Dvorak: back in the old
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here we go. You couldn't get a
job at PC Magazine. Unless you

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were a computer hobbyist. You
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package and I was always told
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air as magazines about flying I
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which was a Ziff Davis magazine
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the end of his Well, this was
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could not be it. You couldn't
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John C Dvorak: You have to know
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Adam Curry: Let's go to CBS. And
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climate change. And intro last

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Unknown: week, so four days of
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week is expected to be even
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to the program. Kate Calvin,
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senior climate advisor. Good
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Adam Curry: Yeah, you already
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be a good one. The chief climate
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John C Dvorak: Moody. Here we
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Unknown: I'm excited to be able
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Adam Curry: why is she laughing?
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Adam Curry: is just odd. Is she
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NASA climate advisor or she
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John C Dvorak: What do you
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flirting with. You saw that you
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Unknown: super cute. Able to ask
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Adam Curry: questions. She's an
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never ugly. Have you noticed
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Adam Curry: almost like the
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Unknown: Why is the weather so
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Adam Curry: Wow, this this is an
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gentlemen. We're going we're
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John C Dvorak: second. I know
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Adam Curry: This is CBS.

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John C Dvorak: CBS, the network.
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Adam Curry: Why Face the Nation
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not just any old show. I mean,
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John C Dvorak: say she's the
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everybody, so we were reminded,
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Adam Curry: From now on. She's
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John C Dvorak: Margaret Brennan,
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the COVID era, when she was
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Adam Curry: in her younger years
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during COVID This is like no, I
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John C Dvorak: Not current
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old Hillary. All right, here we
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Unknown: In particular. Why is
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Adam Curry: Oh, for Nancy Jones.
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Adam Curry: feel she explained,
explained? Well, what happened

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John C Dvorak: Didn't say
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Adam Curry: just said El Nino
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Adam Curry: as I understand it,
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ocean temperatures are rising.
They're just making that up

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Adam Curry: no explanation to
just say, Yeah, ocean

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temperatures, right, but land
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cares? That's not an answer.
This is explain what's

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happening. It's just saying
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do I know something about which
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journalists turbulence. Yes. You
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care about you. Enjoy your bumpy
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John C Dvorak: them if they can
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cashiers money in the bank. And
so bottom line, they could

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Adam Curry: charge more for the
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Unknown: NASA has been doing
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Adam Curry: John, she's
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crunching, crunching, crunching
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John C Dvorak: writing on her
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Adam Curry: We're like cereal
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forward. I was looking at one of
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Adam Curry: Answer the question.
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turbulence. Oh, no, it's
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everything, you know, everything
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turbulence question. What let's
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planes, you moron. I asked about
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turbulence linked to climate
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transportation, but also how it
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Adam Curry: by making them coast
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question is not answered a
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John C Dvorak: I think this is
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Adam Curry: Yes. And we and we
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aviation community. All right.
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transportation. Oh, no. Climate
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Mississippi River mentioned in
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Adam Curry: Turbulence on the
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Adam Curry: She just sold a
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why the transportation is
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sell it all of our data is
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Adam Curry: Hold on What's this
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Unknown: that you can interpret
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Adam Curry: losing, losing,
losing. All right, maybe the

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next question, we'll get some
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change really affecting us? And
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change is contributing to rise
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mosquito borne illnesses as
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getting worse. I know plenty of
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their allergies these past few
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immune systems are shot from the
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how concerned do people need to
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Adam Curry: let's see if she
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Unknown: climate change can do
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extent of those species so you
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conditions, they need water to
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change can can do is change that
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change. You mentioned pollen.
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smoke. So there are wildfires
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from that came into the US and
that's from climate change and

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Adam Curry: fires in in Canada,
we're not from climate change

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that fires. stuff doesn't self
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hot, it's just it's supposed
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John C Dvorak: can I get off a
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was mentioned. Yes. I'm now of
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a created product from the germ
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at a Plum Island look it up. And
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from the lab. The labs take his
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Adam Curry: left New York right
near New York. Yeah. Well,

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John C Dvorak: You got to stop
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Adam Curry: No, no man is the
ancient micro organisms that are

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coming back to life. But some

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science fiction movie. In terms

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of fear. There's something in
here about frozen Arctic soils,

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unleashing ancient micro
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Adam Curry: Here, here's here's
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Unknown: hasn't happened yet.

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carbon and there's nothing and
underground. And so as that

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thaws, scientists are expect
that you would see some more

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emissions associated with it. So
that as you warm, you couldn't

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trigger more emissions. And
that's what's driving the

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warming that we're seeing now is
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things that affect those
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Linda, what she's taught, you're
gonna continue to make this

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All of our data is publicly
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it so we are able to observe
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people better prepare for the
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John C Dvorak: they should make
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Adam Curry: for download for
crunching you know, the kids are

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leaving for Austin today. So
they've been here for they're

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almost two weeks. It's been
great visit and they're gonna

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spend two days in Austin before
they fly back to Rotterdam. And

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I've learned so I've learned so
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ended written this this
millennial here this triggers me

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she might even be a Gen Z. I'm
not sure. It feels like

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something broke like Biden
nomics is what it would be

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called but like the depression
is hitting four of their friends

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have lost their jobs. We know
multiple millennials who have

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all of a sudden they're losing
their jobs, be a bicycle

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companies going broke and all
kinds of things just happening.

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John C Dvorak: They're closing
the Anchor Steam beer company in

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Adam Curry: Disney World is
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Unknown: who tend to go

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Adam Curry: yes, time to go see

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John C Dvorak: that. It's an
opportunity we've got

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Adam Curry: we've got the
teamsters talking about

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striking. But probably the one
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the actors if

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John C Dvorak: this got this
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Adam Curry: this is where I'm
going to play the clip

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Unknown: if this dispute just
goes ahead, it does go ahead if

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the actors do go on strike it
will make look the writers

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strike really look like a walk
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you a few numbers to compare.
The Writers Guild of America has

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about 11,000 members and then
going on strike was already

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enough to shut down about 80% of
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TV industry the sag AFTRA union,
which represents mostly actors,

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but not only they also represent
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performers, DJs, well, they have
about 160,000 members. So

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really, if they do end up going
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essentially just a total
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industry, the only productions
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be those involving non unionized
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consequences. Just by using two
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now the Barbie movie. We've also
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both very big movie is expected
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In the United States. Well, we
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promotion are very important
than last few days in the first

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few days before and after a
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on strike tonight at midnight,
which is the deadline Well, we

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can expect actors to be banned
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junkets fan events premieres,
they will not be expected to go

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to the San Diego Comic Con 10
days from now with where many

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actors are supposed to appear.
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in this day and age is that many
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allowed to advertise their own
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cues. And looking farther ahead
of course, it could already

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we've already seen some pretty
significant effects on the fall

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TV season, which begins usually
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US. Well, of course, if the
actors do end up going on

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strike, we will be increasingly
chances to increasing chances

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rather of looking at much
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with shorter with a smaller
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upcoming TV season.

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John C Dvorak: When I was a kid
that just season it was 35

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episodes and some of the shows
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Adam Curry: So I'm very shorter.

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John C Dvorak: I'm very sorry
the show's run 10 episodes is

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the season

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Adam Curry: I'm really sorry for
the for the actors and you know,

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but Hollywood and five M is
broken. I would recommend that

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you cancel your Netflix cancel
your Disney plus cancel your

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Hulu cancel all to cancel your
cable if you haven't already,

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and support podcast podcast.
We're not striking. We don't

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strike we bring quality
entertainment six hours a week.

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That's half a season. By summer
count, it's Tuesday and yes

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John C Dvorak: it's one week of
our shows as a half a season.

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Most of the he's so called
series. Exactly.

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Adam Curry: So you know is and

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John C Dvorak: and by the way is
anybody think it might not be a

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coincidence that they're doing
this? They're gonna let them

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strike? Because the Barbie movie
which if you think about it is

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probably a turkey. Well, it's a
hammer looks boring, and they're

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already thinking is going to be
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they're promoting the hell out
of it. I mean, the Tom Cruise

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wanted to get his movie out on
the fourth, knowing that this

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was going to come down and get
at least get some money.

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Adam Curry: The other theaters
might close. Yeah, that the

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theaters could actually close,
which is exactly what they want.

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Because sound of freedom has to
be suppressed at all cost.

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John C Dvorak: All right, wishes
we switch gears. Good one. Thank

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you. I sound of freedom. So I
have one clip about it. I know.

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This is the woman this is the
woman who it does lives of tick

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tock. Yes. I've been reading
stories saying well, I don't

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know it's a bunch of bull crap
is exaggerated, that they're

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turning down to air
conditioning. And they're doing

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this and AMC movie chain in
particular doesn't want to show

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the movie. So there must because
they got a bunch of lefties

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doing this review. Let's

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Adam Curry: just review. This is
the movie based on based on a

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true story. And there's actually
there's an operation Underground

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Railroad is the is the
documentary you want to see

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includes the reel I put in the
show notes includes the real

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guy. And, and it's not. It's not
dramatize it's actual footage of

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these rescues. And the
mainstream for whatever reason,

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immediately. And I think it's I
mean, a lot of people will say

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oh, yeah, because you know,
they're all Adrenochrome junkies

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out maybe, but more likely is we
have to get people to see their

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crap like the dumb Barbie movie,
and you can't be spending your

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money on something that might be
counterproductive to everything

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they are there about.

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John C Dvorak: Especially when
the joke of it is I don't know

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there was a South Park incident
about this go. I didn't know

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this word. Mickey Mouse comes in
and beats the crap out of a

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couple of guys who, especially
the guy who thought they had

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this movie Disney owned this
movie three years ago, I think

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right? And they said, then they
shelved it. That was a lot that

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happens a lot with Yeah, it
does. But this shell the movie

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that then becomes a hit is
embarrassing.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Especially
since it was a bunch of Jesus

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freaks who got it distributed.
Big problem.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I think
the Jesus Rick's getting it

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distributed probably had a lot
to do with trying to suppress

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Rolling Stone all these other
guys. But so did did latest

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news. You see, even though
nobody's got any witnesses, they

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say no, none of this is going
on. There's fine. I'm always

477
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being played left and right. So
the clip I have is a credible

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source, as far as I'm concerned
is that woman that runs lives of

479
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tick tock Chaya, whatever her
name is, she's believable. Yep,

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credible, and everything in
between. And here's what

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happened to her.

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Unknown: Hi, Brian. stau. Last
night, I went to watch the sound

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or freedom movie. And it's very
interesting, because CNN and

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Rollingstone and Washington Post
and The Guardian, they were all

485
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publishing articles about how
the movie is like related to Q

486
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anon and conspiracy theories. So
that alo told me that this is

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something that they don't want
you to watch, which is why you

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should definitely go watch it.
Additionally, I also saw some

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reporting of people who were
saying that weird things were

490
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happening when they were trying
to go see it in theaters, like

491
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the air conditioning wasn't
working, or their tickets were

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canceled. And when I went a
couple minutes into the movie,

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the fire alarm went off, the
entire building had to evacuate.

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And about 1520 minutes later, it
was resolved. And we're able to

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go back in and resume the movie.
But it was we were missing half

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the audience now. But I did stay
until the end. And the movie is

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excellent. It was educational,
and inspiring and eye opening. I

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was not even aware of the extent
of the child sex trafficking

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industry until I watched this.
The US is in the top three

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countries. For destinations for
sale. Child sites, trafficking

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by stem are number one. It's a
$150 billion a year industry.

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And there are millions 10s of
millions of children who are

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currently trapped in sex
slavery. So it is it's heart

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wrenching. There are people in
the audience who were moved to

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tears and really inspiring to
because at the end, I know for

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myself, I left and I was like,
What can I do to help raise

507
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awareness about this? What can I
do to help these children? So

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I'm passing on the message. I
hope you do too. Go see the

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movie, it's a must watch. Bring
your family, bring your friend,

510
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:47,700
tell everyone you know, go watch
down their freedom, something

511
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:49,890
has to be done about it
something really drastic.

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Adam Curry: I'm going Saturday,
and it will be an AMC theater.

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So it'd be fun to see what
happened.

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John C Dvorak: You may have a
story to tell because everyone

515
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knows the AMC Theaters do air
conditioning stories domain one

516
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,780
they've got to play so hot, so
unbearable.

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Adam Curry: Now, I will say in
addition to that, that it was

518
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106 degrees in Texas Air
Conditioning does

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John C Dvorak: go it's gonna be
a problem anywhere else. Okay,

520
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Adam Curry: I'm just saying it
does break down stuff does

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happen. But the Grand Duke David
Foley has been sending me tick

522
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:24,360
tock after tick tock of these
reports. And it wasn't until you

523
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:28,110
had the the lives of tick tock
lady that said, Okay, this is a

524
00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:30,450
good report. And I'm glad you
clip that I've just been seeing

525
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it. Like yeah, I mean, you know
how these things go because oh,

526
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this is wrong, but doing all the
stuff that are trying to

527
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suppress it. But it really does
seem like it and especially if

528
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you take into account the the
articles that we've been we've

529
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been reading? Well, it's just a
bunch of Naja, who's

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00:28:44,910 --> 00:28:47,910
John C Dvorak: they is the
question in my mind. Who at the

531
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Rolling Stone in The Guardian,
and all these places? What would

532
00:28:51,030 --> 00:28:54,960
what's the bone they got to pick
what is who's behind this? Who's

533
00:28:54,990 --> 00:28:56,490
pulling the strings.

534
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,150
Adam Curry: Now, it's just one
of those things that that The

535
00:29:00,150 --> 00:29:02,400
New Yorker, well, actually the
New York Times was reasonably

536
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,290
fair, not a very long review,
but they just had kind of a you

537
00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:12,840
know, it's not all that great.
It's a confluence of things and

538
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,980
then you can you know, how these
these news desk news rooms work

539
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:22,860
and how editors are and they're
dipshits and it's our

540
00:29:24,780 --> 00:29:26,310
John C Dvorak: editor in chief,
they usually are

541
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:29,040
Adam Curry: all politically now
they're just all political,

542
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,880
political, political. Alright,
so now here's another story that

543
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I've really we haven't focused
that much on and this is excess

544
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,850
deaths. And I've been following
in the UK, the UK, it's a real

545
00:29:41,850 --> 00:29:44,940
story. It's mainstream. And of
course, it's yes,

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John C Dvorak: they Yes, because
they are very open with their

547
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numbers.

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Adam Curry: And it's an it's
obviously it's not from the

549
00:29:50,550 --> 00:29:55,320
vaccine, of course, it's from
COVID. Alright, it's COVID not

550
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,160
from the vaccine. It's from
COVID. Although interesting to

551
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,310
see store He's a pop up that
apparently Pfizer actually sent

552
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:11,910
a lot of doses to the EU that
were placebos about 30%. And,

553
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:16,770
and there's questions, there's
no answers. And, you know, so

554
00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:17,550
the yellow has

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John C Dvorak: been actually
documented. I've heard this

556
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:20,880
story too.

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00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:27,780
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's Let me
see who document handle if true?

558
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,810
Well, and the question is, why
is it a because they were still

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00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:33,390
testing stuff on people? Or is
it because

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John C Dvorak: if you're gonna
do a real test, and you're not

561
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going to do a, you know, the
normal test the way you're

562
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supposed to, and you're going to
test it on the public itself,

563
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you have to use placebos. But
But vaccinate your numbers back,

564
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but then then you'd have to
admit you did that. And this is

565
00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:51,030
like, a, like, a liability
issue.

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Adam Curry: Well, no vaccines in
the US are tested with placebos.

567
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This is, this is one of Bobby
The Kay's main, main gripes

568
00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:03,150
about it. Not a single vaccine
needs to be tested in the United

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00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:07,770
States, in a placebo trial, it's
just that you don't need to do

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00:31:07,770 --> 00:31:12,450
it, so they don't do it. Now,
there's, I put a lot of articles

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in in the show notes, which is
handy to have and a show

572
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:20,430
notes.com. But the one that
really got me is his article in

573
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:23,100
the Forex ground in the
Netherlands. And the forest

574
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:28,710
ground is very left wing, but
very intellectual newspaper. I

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00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:32,100
mean, if you don't read the
telegraph, if you read the full

576
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:32,580
of Scrubs,

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00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:36,210
John C Dvorak: but it sounds
like the flu, if I was just

578
00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:39,870
listening, I'd say the name of
the newspapers the fools grunt.

579
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,420
Adam Curry: It's it's the folk
the newspaper of the people. The

580
00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:49,200
fool looks good on people's
people's world. And so they talk

581
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,440
about a the government you know,
they did their annual budget of

582
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course, you know, the government
will have to talk about the

583
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Dutch government obviously the
cabinet fell and now Mark rota

584
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:03,870
is he's he's leaving politics
altogether, which is another

585
00:32:03,870 --> 00:32:07,350
interesting thing. But the the
governor was really happy

586
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:11,400
because they actually were able
to make the budget kind of work

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00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,870
this year and the folks are
right it was good luck. And the

588
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:22,620
good luck was the the Ministry
of Education had a 490 million

589
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:30,390
euro lucky break see plus not
surplus but it was a break so

590
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:33,180
you know, there's never a
surplus anywhere but hey, you

591
00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:38,700
know, we had an extra 490
million euros because less less

592
00:32:38,820 --> 00:32:46,020
students will be attending
school and they also had 270

593
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:49,410
million euro lucky break because
there'll be less social security

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payments because of and I quote
the fulcrum mysterious excess

595
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deaths so the government is now

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John C Dvorak: saying you're
reading right from it says

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mysterious excess death to

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Adam Curry: mystery owes
overstaffed at the Oak not

599
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:09,900
Corona Blythe on Howden. You
heard the mystery Oza

600
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overstaffed of mystery? Oh, some
mysterious Yeah, overstaffed the

601
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excess over death excess deaths.
This now now it's true. So this

602
00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:23,790
is a real thing. And it's
happening everywhere. And of

603
00:33:23,790 --> 00:33:27,930
course, it's from COVID is not
from the vaccine at all. But if

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00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:33,600
we listen to people who
guaranteed have been quadruple

605
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if not quintuple boosted, you
gotta kind of question stuff. So

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Unknown: the pandemic officially
ended earlier this year. And for

607
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most people, life is back to
normal, but not for Dr. Michael

608
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Osterholm, the expert at the
University of Minnesota became a

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household name during every
stage of the pandemic.

610
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Investigative reporter Ryan race
went to find out what he's doing

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00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,050
now that the biggest health
crisis of our lifetime is over.

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Are you eating in a restaurant
now and able to relax?

613
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Well, unfortunately I am. And I
say unfortunately, in that I

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recently had COVID.

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Three years into the pandemic
and Minnesota his most famous

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infectious disease doctor
finally became a statistic in

617
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March, Dr. Michael Osterholm,
not only got COVID for the first

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time, but it's now suffering
from long COVID It's been

619
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a difficult few months. So I I'm
feeling it I can't do many of

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the athletic things I did
before.

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Oh Osterholm is the longtime
director of the Center for

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Infectious Disease Research and
Policy at the University of

623
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Minnesota. He also worked for
the State Department of Health

624
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and the CDC. But during the
pandemic, his projections and

625
00:34:47,609 --> 00:34:51,149
downright scary predictions
earned him the nickname Dr.

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Doom.

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Adam Curry: So this guy has long
COVID He sounds horrible. He has

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trouble breathing. He can't do
quote athletic exercises. He's a

629
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on death's door, and you know
that he he's the guy that was

630
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:07,500
just Vax Bags, Bags, Bags, Bags,
Bags.

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John C Dvorak: Did they ever
find out how many times he got

632
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the jab?

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Adam Curry: I don't have that
information. But now Now I'm by

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the way,

635
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John C Dvorak: this clip of the
day off advance on this guy.

636
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This guy was one of the worst of
the of the bad actors out there,

637
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he would

638
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:29,640
Adam Curry: have a million
millions of dead Dez millions,

639
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,370
millions and America's soon, but
now I'm thinking there's

640
00:35:35,370 --> 00:35:40,500
something else up now. This is a
complete conspiracy theory of my

641
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:45,360
own. Oh, here we go. And I'm
going to play a clip from Time

642
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,940
magazine. Because what so what
if we have people dying left and

643
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:54,690
right, and we have to explain it
somehow. We can't I mean, it'd

644
00:35:54,690 --> 00:35:58,080
be great to say, Hey, we got a
huge benefit in Social Security,

645
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,350
everybody, because people are
dead. So there's more for the

646
00:36:01,350 --> 00:36:03,810
people who are living. That's
nothing

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00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:07,860
John C Dvorak: you should Oh,
get more tell you that.

648
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:11,430
Adam Curry: There's less pupils
per per teacher? What a what a

649
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:17,280
what a great benefit. So now, we
know that this is not because of

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00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,300
COVID. And the reason why is
because countries that did

651
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:28,560
nothing as recommended. No,
actually, let me I want to let's

652
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,290
just this is a short clip. So
I'll just play this, just so you

653
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,620
understand. It's Bobby The K on
waters

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Unknown: and you think Fauci is
the devil, do you? Would you

655
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:41,670
prosecute him if you ever got to
the White House?

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00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:45,570
Adam Curry: I mean, if if there
were crimes that he committed,

657
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of course, we would, you know,
the I would tell the attorney

658
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,400
general, a prosecutor might not
hold off.

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00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:56,610
Unknown: Do I think that he
committed crimes? I think he

660
00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:59,850
caused a lot of injury. I think
that

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,940
Adam Curry: he particularly by
withholding early treatment from

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00:37:05,970 --> 00:37:09,840
Americans, you know, we racked
up the highest F count in the

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world. We only have 4.2% of the
globe's population, but we had

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16% of the COVID deaths in this
country. And that is, that was

665
00:37:19,470 --> 00:37:23,910
from bad policy. There's
countries that did the opposite

666
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:27,120
of what we did that provided
ivermectin hydroxychloroquine

667
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,680
other early treatments to their
populations, and had one to

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00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,760
hundreds of our death rate. So
there are many, many things that

669
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we did wrong in this country.
And, and some of those were, I

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00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,170
would say knowing knowingly at
some of the things that were

671
00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:51,120
done by public health officials
that time that they knew that

672
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,610
they would be harmful to Now,
besides the fact that we know

673
00:37:56,610 --> 00:38:00,120
from the actual people who
instruct ventilator operators

674
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,650
that the protocol was killing
people and was a known death

675
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:10,800
protocol. ivermectin
hydroxychloroquine were deemed

676
00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:18,360
insane crazy horse pace can't
push it no good because it by by

677
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,420
regulation I don't wanna say by
law but by regulation despite

678
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,870
John C Dvorak: them by edict
Yes, despite the fact that

679
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:30,600
ivermectin as a generalized a
product which was antiviral anti

680
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:36,600
worm Yeah. Anti parasite it had
in won a Nobel Prize and as

681
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,680
required to be in all the
medical packs at the UN gives

682
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,800
out for you know, third world
countries one of the greatest

683
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,230
products in recent histories you
know, as a generalized cool

684
00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:53,130
thing. It's astonishing to me
that they pulled this off

685
00:38:55,290 --> 00:39:00,510
Adam Curry: so in in addition to
that, by edict as you said, or

686
00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:04,650
by regulation, you cannot
mandate on your emergency use

687
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,290
authorization of vaccine if
there are treatments so that's

688
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:10,140
why it had to be demonized
because this is this is not a

689
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:12,330
stretch at this point to believe

690
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:15,510
John C Dvorak: this as is
obvious. Cancer and we've

691
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:17,040
discussed this a million times

692
00:39:17,070 --> 00:39:22,410
Adam Curry: cancer is exploding
everywhere in the world. Funny

693
00:39:22,410 --> 00:39:26,370
enough if you look in the United
States in the Lancaster

694
00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:30,150
Pennsylvania area where the
Dutch arm with Amish live, who

695
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:35,520
have no vaccine Certainly not
COVID No one died one guy this

696
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:38,250
there's word that maybe five
died but there's really only one

697
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:40,920
good one and we're not sure that
that one guy acts right

698
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,500
John C Dvorak: if the one guy
they still get those sketchy

699
00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:46,800
Adam Curry: now in in the UK,
just I'm just beginning to get

700
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,790
to this board. I think it might
be going on here in the UK. They

701
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:56,610
had this huge scandal scandal I
tell you, because apparently,

702
00:39:56,790 --> 00:40:02,370
some BBC presenter was buying
naked pictures from a 17 year

703
00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:03,690
old boy.

704
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:06,270
John C Dvorak: Identify the guy
finally.

705
00:40:06,629 --> 00:40:09,359
Adam Curry: Yes, they identified
him and his his wife actually

706
00:40:09,389 --> 00:40:12,689
identified him and said he's in
the hospital for severe mental

707
00:40:12,689 --> 00:40:16,649
issues pay no attention. But
what is going on simultaneously?

708
00:40:17,009 --> 00:40:21,269
He's the COVID inquiry. This is
not headline news in the UK,

709
00:40:21,539 --> 00:40:25,109
where it's coming out now. The
lockdowns were wrong, everything

710
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:27,719
was wrong. The numbers were
wrong. They are pretty

711
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,419
transparent in the UK with the
numbers, but what do they do

712
00:40:30,419 --> 00:40:34,529
just put some gay thing Oh, gay
boy something put it on the for

713
00:40:34,529 --> 00:40:38,189
everyone's talking about that.
Even though this news was known

714
00:40:38,189 --> 00:40:43,469
for months, it's not like new
news. Okay, so if you have all

715
00:40:43,469 --> 00:40:48,719
this going on, and we have
people dying, and idiot

716
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,139
podcasters are going to start
asking questions like what could

717
00:40:52,139 --> 00:40:53,549
be going on here?

718
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:57,390
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
the term turbo cancer has

719
00:40:57,390 --> 00:40:58,110
cropped up

720
00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:01,740
Adam Curry: how I hadn't even
heard that turbo turbo can turbo

721
00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:09,420
cancer. Well enter what I think
is the perfect solution. It will

722
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:16,350
identify demons who are
responsible for cancer and for

723
00:41:16,350 --> 00:41:20,340
death and listen to this is a
really shit report from Time

724
00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:23,520
magazine, but okay, their print
publication but they have a

725
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,840
video with a guy just reading
you know, and you can hear him

726
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,060
swallowing and moist and it's
horrible.

727
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,900
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But
thanks for the setup. I think

728
00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:36,750
Adam Curry: this is what's going
to be used as an excuse and

729
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:39,900
we've been tracking it and it's
been cropping up more and more

730
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:41,130
in the past couple of weeks.

731
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:46,020
Unknown: If you're like 97% of
Americans, including newborns,

732
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:52,860
your blood is contaminated with
a P F A S for pee fast. That's

733
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:54,450
very bad news.

734
00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:56,670
Adam Curry: So I think and
you'll hear this in a moment

735
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,310
they are going to blame turbo
cancer excess deaths on pee fast

736
00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:06,480
and they're going to and this
will be a huge bonanza for

737
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,110
lawyers.

738
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,740
John C Dvorak: Oh this this is
also good has to be part of this

739
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:12,510
forever chemicals

740
00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:15,210
Adam Curry: that's what this is
P fast is the Forever cat Okay,

741
00:42:15,210 --> 00:42:16,410
here we go. Here we go.

742
00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:21,300
Unknown: First developed in the
1940s P fast which stands for

743
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:26,430
per and poly fluoro alkyl
substances have grown into a

744
00:42:26,430 --> 00:42:30,780
class of more than 12,000
chemicals used in 1000s of

745
00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:36,360
products from food packaging to
clothing, shoes, firefighting,

746
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:42,300
foam, cosmetics, contact lenses,
wall paint, toilet paper,

747
00:42:42,450 --> 00:42:45,990
cookware, and even feminine
hygiene products.

748
00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:48,660
Adam Curry: There's no There's
no escaping no one can escape

749
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:51,900
these forever chemicals. No one
can escape them because they're

750
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:52,950
everywhere. Oil,

751
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:57,960
Unknown: oceans, lakes streams
and the rain itself Ray mold

752
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,000
contaminated with pee fast. The
exposure to certain levels of

753
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,330
the chemicals have been linked
by the Environmental Protection

754
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:09,600
Agency to a long list of health
effects.

755
00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:12,630
Adam Curry: Okay, now let's
evaluate these health effects.

756
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:16,980
Let's see if there's any slight
overlap with I don't know

757
00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:19,800
vaccine adverse events,

758
00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:23,790
Unknown: including decreased
fertility, high blood pressure

759
00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:27,960
and pregnant people. increased
risk of certain cancers,

760
00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:32,040
developmental delays and low
birth weight and children

761
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:36,420
hormonal disruption, high
cholesterol reduce the

762
00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:39,570
effectiveness of the immune
system and more.

763
00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:42,690
Adam Curry: sounds the same to
me.

764
00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:47,070
Unknown: The natural impulse to
news like this is to say that

765
00:43:47,070 --> 00:43:52,050
somebody should pay for felling
the planet found these

766
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:54,630
Adam Curry: let's go get him
let's let's let's point to a

767
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:55,350
villain who

768
00:43:55,350 --> 00:44:02,160
Unknown: badly now a number of
somebodies are pain indeed. In

769
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:10,200
early June 2023 du Pont and its
spin offs, shim wars and cortiva

770
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,200
leading PFS manufacturers by

771
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,050
Adam Curry: the way, this is a
very typical thing to do and

772
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:18,390
they do it in the medical
industry that's what Pfizer does

773
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:21,720
it do it in the chemical
industry. The DuPont will be

774
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:24,810
fine if they're gonna have these
little entities that are the

775
00:44:24,810 --> 00:44:29,520
front companies they get sued
out of existence. And DuPont

776
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,370
will be fine. That's why they
have the so called spin offs.

777
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:34,770
Yeah, it's a spin offs. Yeah,
let's get those guys

778
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:41,820
Unknown: in early June 2023 du
Pont and it's spin offs shim

779
00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:48,120
Moore's and cortiva. Leading PFS
manufacturers got out from under

780
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,300
a little bit of the civil
litigation that has been brought

781
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:58,800
against them reaching a $1.185
billion settlement with 300

782
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,520
local water system Tim was that
had sued the company for the

783
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,800
costs of cleaning and filtering
their wells and aquifers. Three

784
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,080
weeks later, three M, another
major P fast maker reached a

785
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,930
much larger $10.3 million
settlement with 300 different

786
00:45:18,930 --> 00:45:23,910
water providers. But those
agreements cover only a tiny

787
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:28,950
fraction of the 15,000 lawsuits
brought against those four

788
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:33,690
companies. And a handful of
others smaller pee fast makers

789
00:45:34,050 --> 00:45:38,310
filed by state attorneys,
general water systems and

790
00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:40,140
individual plaintiffs.

791
00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:43,200
Adam Curry: So it's a 17 minute
video that I wouldn't want

792
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,670
anyone to have to sit through.
But this is a such a multiple

793
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:52,950
Whammy, because we're getting
huge lawsuits, huge payoffs. And

794
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:56,070
slaves, you'll be able to get a
little something, you know, you

795
00:45:56,070 --> 00:45:59,580
could get 10 bucks and some
class action lawsuit. But also,

796
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:02,370
they have you know, there's now
these I think we played on the

797
00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:06,030
last show, there's ways to fix
the water. So they're going to

798
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:11,370
do a complete takeover of your
water. By God knows who doing

799
00:46:11,370 --> 00:46:16,350
God knows what. And I think this
this is the plan. The plan is,

800
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,840
look, I remember look, I
remember, look, Teflon growing

801
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,810
up in the Netherlands Oh, no
Teflon is gonna kill you. You're

802
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:27,030
gonna die. Yeah,

803
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:29,490
John C Dvorak: that was that was
here too, by the way, of course.

804
00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:32,490
Adam Curry: But I grew up in
Holland, not here. And Teflon.

805
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,730
Teflon was always going to kill
us hasn't happened. I'm still

806
00:46:35,730 --> 00:46:42,090
here. While I don't doubt that
there's harmful chemicals, this

807
00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:45,390
is too vast. They're just
throwing everything into one big

808
00:46:45,390 --> 00:46:49,230
bucket and saying it's all pee
fast. It's all and we have a

809
00:46:49,230 --> 00:46:54,390
handy little reminder forever
chemicals. It's in the rain. You

810
00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:56,670
someone must pay.

811
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,590
John C Dvorak: We haven't heard
gets in the rain.

812
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:03,900
Adam Curry: Climate change? I
don't know. But this I think

813
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:07,230
this is what they're going to
blame everything on. You have a

814
00:47:07,590 --> 00:47:08,880
good idea. I mean,

815
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:13,620
John C Dvorak: granted, I'm not
going to argue that it's not

816
00:47:13,620 --> 00:47:16,800
going to be what they're going
to try to do. Yeah, it does does

817
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,890
definitely take the focus off
the COVID thing which is

818
00:47:20,609 --> 00:47:22,679
Unknown: slowly really an issue.

819
00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:26,610
John C Dvorak: Well, it's an
issue that is going to it's

820
00:47:26,610 --> 00:47:28,200
going to take care of itself.

821
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:30,150
Adam Curry: Well, let me just
remind you from the last show

822
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:33,450
this this water treatment, we
because of course we have

823
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:35,760
problem reaction solution.

824
00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:38,430
Unknown: There's a disturbing
new study out today about the

825
00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:41,190
nation's drinking water.
Researchers found that nearly

826
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:44,400
half of the tap water in this
country contains potentially

827
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,030
harmful compounds usually known
as forever chemicals. They're

828
00:47:48,030 --> 00:47:51,120
linked to a wide range of health
problems including cancer, high

829
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,690
blood pressure and fertility
issues. CBS is marching through

830
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,140
Notre

831
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Adam Curry: Dame surgery of
course, of course it's a script.

832
00:47:58,710 --> 00:48:00,030
John C Dvorak: What are those
three because those are the

833
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:02,010
three there everyone's gonna
repeat fertility

834
00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:04,110
Adam Curry: issues, high blood
listlessness, and again,

835
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:06,600
Unknown: of course, they're
linked to a wide range of health

836
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,780
problems including cancer, high
blood pressure and fertility,

837
00:48:09,780 --> 00:48:10,530
cancer,

838
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,190
Adam Curry: high blood pressure
and fertility. This person's

839
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,700
Unknown: CVS is Mark Strassman
takes it in your blood in depth

840
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:20,820
John C Dvorak: forgot about the
fact that the COVID vaccine

841
00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:25,950
would it would lead to didn't do
it correctly if we go and go

842
00:48:25,950 --> 00:48:30,270
right to your nuts new
technology that yeah, it was

843
00:48:30,270 --> 00:48:33,930
also given women weird periods
like months on end Yes, and

844
00:48:33,930 --> 00:48:36,360
Adam Curry: clots in your blood
and all kinds of horrible

845
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,640
things. Yes, horrible. Now
listen to this dash all

846
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,300
forgotten.

847
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,860
Unknown: That could make so
called Forever chemicals

848
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,030
disappear.

849
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,050
Nasty cargo 10,000 gallons of
landfill water laced with pee

850
00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:56,490
fast, a known carcinogen that
nothing could get rid of. Until

851
00:48:56,490 --> 00:48:56,850
now

852
00:48:56,879 --> 00:49:01,379
we're concentrating the
Annihilator system to treat it.

853
00:49:02,250 --> 00:49:06,150
Treat PFS blast them out of
existence. These so called

854
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:09,990
Forever chemicals are manmade
used in Teflon firefighting

855
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:11,640
foam, even facial makeup

856
00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:16,860
Adam Curry: lines back Teflon.
Yeah, Teflon. It's Teflon. The

857
00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:20,850
big one, that firefighting foam
is the real one. This is the one

858
00:49:20,850 --> 00:49:23,070
that's been going on for quite a
while they have had many

859
00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:26,460
lawsuits of firefighters,
particularly military who use

860
00:49:26,460 --> 00:49:31,350
the foam for practicing for
runway incursions, stuff like

861
00:49:31,350 --> 00:49:35,130
that, that that has been
successfully litigated over and

862
00:49:35,130 --> 00:49:38,610
over and over again and people
have this is before COVID Even

863
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,420
the firefighting foam is the one
in there that I know is probably

864
00:49:42,420 --> 00:49:42,840
true

865
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:45,930
Unknown: wherever chemicals are
manmade, used in Teflon,

866
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,590
firefighting foam, even facial
makeup and previously

867
00:49:49,710 --> 00:49:51,060
indestructible.

868
00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:55,110
This is where the PDFs go.
That's correct.

869
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:58,740
Last year we showed you
Battelle, a nonprofit research

870
00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:03,000
institute doing this Small Scale
field test distilling water into

871
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,350
pee fast concentrate

872
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:04,920
yeah

873
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,020
John C Dvorak: yeah what makes
it indestructible indestructible

874
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:14,460
it's like it's indestructible
but they can burn it but it's

875
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:15,330
indestructible they

876
00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:19,290
Adam Curry: can blow it make any
lasting they get blasted Well

877
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,800
the point is you need to hire
this company to blow Yeah,

878
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,160
that's

879
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:26,820
John C Dvorak: right we played
this last show and it's a net we

880
00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:28,770
decided it was a native ad.
Yeah.

881
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:32,160
Adam Curry: I want to finish it
Are you good? I'm good.

882
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,890
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something. Yeah, gotta

883
00:50:37,890 --> 00:50:40,260
blame everything Yeah, that's
where you got to do something

884
00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:44,010
because this COVID thing is it's
like getting in you'd like you

885
00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:47,070
mentioned there's starting to
investigate now and there was

886
00:50:47,070 --> 00:50:51,030
some investigation going on in
Washington that had something to

887
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:55,920
do with this and it was just
taken nobody was gonna play it

888
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,190
on the the news stations that
get a clip I'm not sure I've got

889
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:02,160
Adam Curry: I've got people
texting me emailing me say oh,

890
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,790
yeah, this this. This blasting
the water is big. It's in order.

891
00:51:05,790 --> 00:51:08,700
They're talking about an RF come
in our community in our county.

892
00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:13,470
It's a moneymaker a huge
moneymaker to everybody scores.

893
00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:16,380
Everybody's scores, except us
stupid.

894
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:18,450
John C Dvorak: We're there's
gotta be some filtering

895
00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,790
technology that works on this
stuff. Yeah,

896
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:24,000
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm happy I
have my own well.

897
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,660
John C Dvorak: Now why? Well,
well, well, while

898
00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:33,210
Adam Curry: I'm on a roll. What
was billed as our stupid,

899
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:40,650
idiotic vice president was
actually hugely eye opening. By

900
00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:44,490
really enjoyed what Vice
President Kamala Harris had to

901
00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:48,180
say about AI. You saw this clip
going around? I have

902
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:50,340
John C Dvorak: the clip. I
haven't had a short clip it a

903
00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:51,240
long clip. I have

904
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:54,210
Adam Curry: minus 40 seconds.
How long is yours?

905
00:51:55,650 --> 00:51:58,140
John C Dvorak: Pamela Camela on
tread

906
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,700
Adam Curry: wears, oh, AI? Let
me see yours is yours is 154.

907
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:05,580
We're playing yours. Nice. And I

908
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:09,180
John C Dvorak: think it's more
Wait, wait. Mais your clips same

909
00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:13,110
clip, you said mine is more in
context, as she goes on and

910
00:52:13,110 --> 00:52:15,000
continues to try to explain
things.

911
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:16,980
Adam Curry: I like it, I want to
hear it. I'm excited. I'm

912
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:17,490
jacked.

913
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:18,630
John C Dvorak: I'm surprised.

914
00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:22,680
Unknown: And I think the first
part of this issue that should

915
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,340
be articulated is AI is kind of
a fancy thing. It's first of all

916
00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:31,650
two letters. It means artificial
intelligence. But ultimately

917
00:52:31,650 --> 00:52:35,940
what it is, is it's about
machine learning. And so the

918
00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:41,760
machine is taught. And part of
the issue here is what

919
00:52:41,790 --> 00:52:44,490
information is going into the
machine.

920
00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:46,320
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm gonna stop
right there. And then we'll

921
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:52,680
continue this. So she gives away
the entire plan right here. They

922
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,700
know that AI is nothing more
than some skip logic. But they

923
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,640
also know that it's being
positioned as, and there's

924
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,210
movies coming out like into the
light and we're all going to die

925
00:53:03,210 --> 00:53:08,280
in the AI is going to eat us and
eat the world. Who we I say, but

926
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,630
they know that AI will be
positioned as truth. It's

927
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:15,840
already being positioned as
truth. AI is scanning our

928
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,290
podcast right now to tell
advertisers not to advertise on

929
00:53:19,290 --> 00:53:21,960
it, which of course, the AI is
too dumb to know that we don't

930
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,970
take advertising. But they want
everything to come it'll be

931
00:53:26,970 --> 00:53:31,350
computer says. And so no matter
what they want to make sure that

932
00:53:31,350 --> 00:53:36,480
there's no incorrect information
being fed into the AI. That's

933
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,160
what this is about. That's why
they want an agency to regulate

934
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,880
it. We want to make sure that
the AI doesn't suck up any of

935
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,610
that no agenda talk, or meld
Maga talk, or, or even

936
00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:56,040
libertarian talk or Bitcoin talk
I don't know that they want.

937
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,200
John C Dvorak: She actually what
you're saying is what she's

938
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:58,800
gonna say

939
00:53:59,550 --> 00:54:03,120
Unknown: that will then
determine. And we can predict

940
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,240
them if we think about what
machine what information is

941
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:10,470
going in, what then will be
produced in terms of decisions

942
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:15,030
and opinions that may be made
through that process. So to

943
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:18,210
reduce it down to its most
simple point. This is part of

944
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:21,900
the issue that we have here is
thinking about what is going

945
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:25,800
into a decision and then whether
that decision is actually

946
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,270
legitimate and reflective of the
needs and the life experiences

947
00:54:30,270 --> 00:54:34,020
of all people. And therefore a
big part of what we will also

948
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:38,760
discuss then is the transparency
in terms of the processes

949
00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:43,500
through which AI Ashley is
having an impact on decisions?

950
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,580
Do we understand the technology?
Do we know what is going into

951
00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:50,130
the decisions that are being
made? So this is very

952
00:54:50,759 --> 00:54:53,789
Adam Curry: multifaceted. So
when she says do we know she

953
00:54:53,789 --> 00:54:55,109
means do we control

954
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:01,110
Unknown: issue and topic and we
also know that that this is

955
00:55:01,110 --> 00:55:05,070
technology that is rapidly
developing. And so part of the

956
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:09,300
common purpose that we have is a
sense of urgency that we get in

957
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:14,010
front of this issue in terms of
understanding the implications,

958
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,670
so that we can work as a
community of folks, private

959
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:22,980
sector, public sector,
nonprofits, government, to do

960
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:26,640
what is in the best interest of
the health and safety and well

961
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,310
being of the people of our
country. And ultimately, that's

962
00:55:29,310 --> 00:55:30,420
how I think about this.

963
00:55:30,839 --> 00:55:33,749
Adam Curry: So the UK always
ahead, always a step ahead with

964
00:55:33,749 --> 00:55:37,679
letting us know about the excess
death as an all that the and

965
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,679
this is from reclaim the net,
which I think they're pretty

966
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:45,989
good organization. headline, new
UK law, which is the online

967
00:55:45,989 --> 00:55:51,149
safety bill. Wood proposals will
legally curb algorithms that

968
00:55:51,149 --> 00:55:56,219
promote Andrew Tate. This is an
extreme example. But that's the

969
00:55:56,219 --> 00:56:00,599
whole point. The AI cannot point
13 year old boys towards a guy

970
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:01,709
like Andrew Tate.

971
00:56:03,570 --> 00:56:05,640
John C Dvorak: This is this is
this says that

972
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,040
Adam Curry: yes, literally this
is this is the whole story is

973
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,670
about is that what the law? The
law doesn't say that No, no,

974
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:13,200
this is interpretation of the
law.

975
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,260
John C Dvorak: Did you say that?
Or is it say that in the Arctic

976
00:56:16,260 --> 00:56:18,120
and the article? Okay.

977
00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:20,070
Adam Curry: Yes, the UK is boil.

978
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,440
John C Dvorak: I want to get
your take on these. I have two

979
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,710
more clips on AI that need to be
discussed. Yes, let's do it.

980
00:56:25,710 --> 00:56:29,790
One, we're doing the same thing
that you just described. This is

981
00:56:29,790 --> 00:56:32,730
the AI Rando thought Schumer
bill.

982
00:56:34,770 --> 00:56:36,780
Unknown: So I probably more
concerned about China's ability

983
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:39,570
to steal our property than what
they're going to innovate

984
00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:40,320
themselves

985
00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:44,700
with the private sector, and
make sure to make sure that we

986
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:48,630
innovate way ahead of everybody
else. But at the same time that

987
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:51,690
there are safeguards so that
innovation doesn't get out of

988
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:56,400
control or be used for negative
purposes, is very, very real as

989
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,790
well. It's gonna be one of the
hardest tasks that Congress has

990
00:56:59,790 --> 00:57:01,140
ever faced. But

991
00:57:01,590 --> 00:57:05,130
so Schumer has been pushing a
bill that he says does have

992
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:08,460
bipartisan support, but from the
senators that we spoke with, we

993
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:11,490
asked about this bill and the
likelihood of it passing during

994
00:57:11,490 --> 00:57:15,030
this Congress, they said that
they are very, not familiar with

995
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:18,540
this specific bill. But they say
they do have an open mind. They

996
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:21,210
say they just need to learn more
about how legislation could

997
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:24,570
actually move as well as just
learn more about the overall

998
00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:27,510
role that artificial
intelligence actually plays in

999
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:28,500
our nation right now.

1000
00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:31,350
Adam Curry: So let's just for no
agenda purposes, let's whenever

1001
00:57:31,350 --> 00:57:33,420
they say artificial
intelligence, let's call it an

1002
00:57:33,420 --> 00:57:37,290
algorithm, which is called an
algo. Have you noticed that tic

1003
00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:40,860
tock is still not being kicked
out of America yet? Have you

1004
00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:43,740
noticed that? Do you think it
could have anything to do with

1005
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:49,110
the fact that that this company
is going there's a lot of money

1006
00:57:49,110 --> 00:57:53,100
flowing right now, Washington,
DC, and tic TOCs algorithms are

1007
00:57:53,100 --> 00:57:57,120
doing a lot of good for a lot of
people in DC, particularly the

1008
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,980
trans mountain crowd?

1009
00:57:59,609 --> 00:58:02,549
John C Dvorak: I'm going to
argue that I do want to play one

1010
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:06,629
more clip, though, get this one
out of the Senator and Rubio

1011
00:58:06,629 --> 00:58:09,959
talking about the fact is what's
happening, there seems to be a

1012
00:58:09,959 --> 00:58:14,249
panic in the Senate. Yes. And
that's why that's interesting

1013
00:58:14,249 --> 00:58:17,459
that Schumer's got some bill
that nobody's read, but it's

1014
00:58:17,459 --> 00:58:23,489
already been passed, kind of.
However, that works. Just go,

1015
00:58:23,669 --> 00:58:26,429
just the last one. And we can
you can go from there.

1016
00:58:26,460 --> 00:58:27,870
Unknown: I think one of the
things we're not talking about

1017
00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:31,380
is how disruptive it will be
economically AI will do to

1018
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:38,490
higher educated workers in some
fields, what globalization did

1019
00:58:38,490 --> 00:58:41,070
to workers in American
factories, it's going to put

1020
00:58:41,070 --> 00:58:42,960
some people out of work, it'll
create new jobs, but it's going

1021
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,070
to eliminate some jobs,

1022
00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:46,860
you know, anything that's
harvesting massive amounts of

1023
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:52,740
data, you can always potentially
use the data incorrectly. The AI

1024
00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:57,450
does operate off a set or set of
patterns and the patterns can be

1025
00:58:57,450 --> 00:59:01,020
wrong. Right. So what is the
what's the validation of AI

1026
00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:05,010
related content? There's
tremendous intellectual property

1027
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,200
concerns. Yeah, I

1028
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,510
Adam Curry: think that that's
where the that's why they're

1029
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:12,540
running around. It's called the
intellectual property. There's a

1030
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:16,260
lot of money in intellectual
property. And you already pegged

1031
00:59:16,260 --> 00:59:19,020
this right off the bat like all
these lawsuits are definitely

1032
00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:22,200
happening. And we're not just
talking about song early

1033
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,740
John C Dvorak: losses seem to be
trivial and somewhat Nothing to

1034
00:59:25,740 --> 00:59:26,820
see here ish.

1035
00:59:27,330 --> 00:59:29,670
Adam Curry: Drone dork will
gives us an update from the

1036
00:59:29,670 --> 00:59:33,390
frontlines boots on the ground
report as JCD predicted the push

1037
00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:37,410
back to generative AI is here.
As previously discussed, I'm

1038
00:59:37,410 --> 00:59:41,580
with a big blue company. They've
recently told us that we are not

1039
00:59:41,580 --> 00:59:45,120
to use third party generative AI
tools for work as they may

1040
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:51,210
infringe on IP. Just use our
generative AI. It probably needs

1041
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,180
training anyway. I feel like
anyone with the brain could have

1042
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:59,640
seen this coming but AI sure is
bright and shiny. Their entire

1043
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,090
pod Test companies now. Oh, is
that does it make it a podcast

1044
01:00:03,090 --> 01:00:03,840
with AI?

1045
01:00:06,060 --> 01:00:08,280
John C Dvorak: I love to hear an
AI podcast.

1046
01:00:08,610 --> 01:00:11,670
Adam Curry: This shit. They're
horrible. Sure.

1047
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:16,920
I mean, yeah. Do we use
artificial intelligence for our

1048
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,080
transcript? Sure. Then it still
spells your name JH en si,

1049
01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:24,450
John C Dvorak: you know, yeah.
And John says the student to be

1050
01:00:24,450 --> 01:00:25,950
able to learn anything else. Oh,

1051
01:00:25,950 --> 01:00:28,050
Adam Curry: and I keep telling
it that it's that's not right.

1052
01:00:28,050 --> 01:00:31,650
But it won't listen to me. So
these are just algos. It's not

1053
01:00:31,650 --> 01:00:35,250
spectacular. In fact, it's so
crap that no wonder they want to

1054
01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:38,670
control it. It'll be a $2.2
million spread by federal

1055
01:00:38,670 --> 01:00:42,180
government teaching kids how to
build AI with critical theory

1056
01:00:43,530 --> 01:00:43,920
doesn't

1057
01:00:44,460 --> 01:00:46,830
John C Dvorak: again where they
go theory you mean that Marxist

1058
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:51,660
approach to learning? Yep. No,
wait, wait, we read that whole

1059
01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:53,040
thing. Again, we're what

1060
01:00:53,070 --> 01:00:55,500
Adam Curry: the National Science
Foundation's Division of

1061
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:59,400
Research on Learning in formal
and informal settings awarded

1062
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,370
two and a half million dollars
to Oakland, California based

1063
01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:06,540
nonprofit, why our media, a
media technology and music

1064
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:10,710
training center and platform for
emerging bipoc content creators

1065
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:14,010
who are using their voices to
change the world to teach

1066
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,790
underrepresented and undeserved
youth how to integrate critical

1067
01:01:17,790 --> 01:01:20,700
theory with artificial
intelligence technologies.

1068
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,720
John C Dvorak: So in Oakland,
they're teaching critical race

1069
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,210
theory, which is what they're
talking about here. Yep,

1070
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:29,910
Critical Theory critical race
are just part of it. But to

1071
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:35,490
break our Kusa crap out of
school of Frankfurt. Yes. Back

1072
01:01:35,490 --> 01:01:39,960
in the 60s bull crap. Yes. They
brought it back. That's the

1073
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,450
whole basis of the Maoist stuff
that we talked about on this

1074
01:01:42,450 --> 01:01:46,140
show all the time. So our
government is now funding this.

1075
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,960
Unknown: Yes. Correct. Believe
It's Not unbelievable. It's

1076
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,720
completely unbelievable. It's
completely believable.

1077
01:01:57,450 --> 01:02:03,690
Adam Curry: Yes. Sadly. There's
another thing, just just talking

1078
01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:07,170
about algorithms, you know how
we're feeding stuff. There are

1079
01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:12,240
now 400 airports in the US where
the TSA is using facial

1080
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,410
recognition and support
supposedly, you're allowed to

1081
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,450
opt out of it, but no one is

1082
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:20,940
John C Dvorak: to follow. I
don't remember getting the form

1083
01:02:20,940 --> 01:02:25,350
that I can opt out. And I
wouldn't know Well, no. Let's

1084
01:02:25,350 --> 01:02:28,800
see a guy comes in that facial
recognition. The thing on the

1085
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,830
screen says, Oh, he's opted out.
We can't tell you who it is. No,

1086
01:02:31,830 --> 01:02:34,380
no. Yes. The first guy draw my
attention to

1087
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:37,800
Adam Curry: Apparently you're
allowed to say hey, I don't want

1088
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,970
here on his way to catch a
flight. Senator Jeff. Merkley

1089
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,630
Democrat of Oregon, was asked to
have his photo taken by facial

1090
01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:49,080
recognition machine at airport
security. TSA has been testing

1091
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,510
use of facial recognition
software to verify travelers

1092
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:55,650
identification at some airports
is now 400. If you decline, a

1093
01:02:55,650 --> 01:02:59,580
TSA agent is supposed to verify
your identification as has been

1094
01:02:59,580 --> 01:03:02,670
done at airport security for
years. When Merkley said no to

1095
01:03:02,670 --> 01:03:06,750
the face scan at Washington's
Reagan, Reagan National Airport,

1096
01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:10,530
to Reagan things Reaganism
Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, he was

1097
01:03:10,530 --> 01:03:18,180
told it would cause a
significant delay. It's time to

1098
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:19,620
opt out of this crap.

1099
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,370
John C Dvorak: I love the
bureaucrats. And it's really

1100
01:03:23,370 --> 01:03:25,650
Unknown: it's really, really,
really, really crazy,

1101
01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:30,510
John C Dvorak: significant
delay. Senators should have

1102
01:03:30,510 --> 01:03:33,510
said, well, how many hours do
you think it will delay? You

1103
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:37,350
know, how many significant
delay?

1104
01:03:38,430 --> 01:03:42,570
Adam Curry: So, yeah, so they're
pushing us towards this, but it

1105
01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:46,980
will all be. I mean, everything
will just be running on an AI.

1106
01:03:47,850 --> 01:03:50,280
And we will, we'll start we'll
be running

1107
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:50,910
John C Dvorak: poorly.

1108
01:03:51,210 --> 01:03:52,830
Adam Curry: It'll be running
extremely poorly.

1109
01:03:53,310 --> 01:03:55,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
it does. And that's what these

1110
01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:57,930
all these technologies tend to
do. They tend to if you let

1111
01:03:57,930 --> 01:04:01,440
them, if you let them take over,
they do a shitty job. They don't

1112
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,410
do a very good job. They're not
they don't follow up, because

1113
01:04:04,410 --> 01:04:07,320
none of its really and they make
mistakes left and right with

1114
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,950
false positives and false
negatives. It's just disastrous

1115
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:14,670
in that regard. And right on
cue, but it's cheap, but it's

1116
01:04:14,670 --> 01:04:19,110
cheap. It's like we're the
Chinese now. Yes, yes, price

1117
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:26,100
Adam Curry: right on cue. Elon
Musk comes out with x AIXX.

1118
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:31,320
John C Dvorak: Ai like X. Yeah.
x.ai loves the letter X. Today

1119
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,230
Adam Curry: we announced the
formation of x ai. The goal of X

1120
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:37,260
AI is to understand the true
nature of the universe. You can

1121
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:40,260
meet the team ask us questions
during the Twitter spaces chat

1122
01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:45,690
out tomorrow, man, I think
Correct? Correct. Correct.

1123
01:04:45,870 --> 01:04:48,180
John C Dvorak: Somebody spotted
that early on. So it's not a

1124
01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:49,080
female in the group?

1125
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,560
Adam Curry: Well, our team is
led by Elon Musk CEO of Tesla

1126
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,280
SpaceX. We we have previously
worked at Deep Mind open AI

1127
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,130
Google research Microsoft
Research Tesla University of

1128
01:04:59,130 --> 01:05:02,670
Toronto. batch normalization
atom optimizer layer

1129
01:05:02,670 --> 01:05:04,410
normalization and because of

1130
01:05:04,410 --> 01:05:07,440
John C Dvorak: the we've heard
them all.

1131
01:05:07,620 --> 01:05:11,070
Adam Curry: And then there's
another one out there anthropic,

1132
01:05:11,310 --> 01:05:17,730
an open AI rival. Well this is a
piece of junk anthropic

1133
01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:20,340
John C Dvorak: love the name it
is

1134
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,610
Adam Curry: they have a chat bot
Claude. So

1135
01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:28,020
John C Dvorak: joining with
Barbie came up with with the Neo

1136
01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:28,860
Elijah,

1137
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:33,000
Adam Curry: Neo Eliza. Oh, I
like that. So they've raised

1138
01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:34,950
John C Dvorak: started up

1139
01:05:35,340 --> 01:05:41,400
Adam Curry: $750 million valued
at 4.1 billion. And literally, I

1140
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,130
asked a question like, What are
the two things Adam curry is

1141
01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:47,160
most known for? And it just
spits back some Wikipedia crap.

1142
01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:51,030
Yes, it does. And even when I
said you know, are you

1143
01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:53,340
underplaying his role in
podcasting? Yes, he was

1144
01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:58,260
instrumental in making
podcasting popular. Okay, so

1145
01:05:58,260 --> 01:05:59,190
this is bullshit they

1146
01:05:59,190 --> 01:06:01,020
John C Dvorak: didn't give you
credit for podcasting right off

1147
01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:02,220
the bat. No, no,

1148
01:06:02,220 --> 01:06:04,530
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no you
two things. I was one of the

1149
01:06:04,530 --> 01:06:07,140
first gray hair I would know as
one of the first celebrities to

1150
01:06:07,140 --> 01:06:11,610
have a blog that's literally in
my wiki pedia which I'm not

1151
01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:12,780
allowed to change as you know.

1152
01:06:14,580 --> 01:06:18,510
Unknown: So anyway, Elon is
under attack because you will

1153
01:06:18,510 --> 01:06:20,400
maybe go change it. Yeah,
please.

1154
01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:22,080
John C Dvorak: And we got time.

1155
01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:28,440
Adam Curry: Elon is under attack
for

1156
01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:31,830
John C Dvorak: he's been under
he's under attack. Now they're,

1157
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,580
they're playing up this bull
crap cage match. It's never

1158
01:06:35,580 --> 01:06:39,300
going to happen. Oh, Zuckerberg.
So dummies actually gotten a

1159
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:44,430
bunch of trainers. And you see
now he's buffed. He's kind of

1160
01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:49,290
like Eli's not going to do this
is not an idiot

1161
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,080
Unknown: No, he's not

1162
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,310
John C Dvorak: this is a scam
it's just it's just distraction

1163
01:06:56,310 --> 01:07:00,630
Adam Curry: of crap stupid. Now
that what's happening is the

1164
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:05,100
mainstream was trying to
discredit Twitter. It's tanking

1165
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:09,390
it's no good because Metis
threads has hit 100 million

1166
01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:13,920
users everyone's using threads.
Threads is where we all need to

1167
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,340
go promotion is a great
promotion and their bio

1168
01:07:17,850 --> 01:07:20,460
John C Dvorak: shock they just
posted one thing on there and

1169
01:07:20,460 --> 01:07:25,200
they got kicked off immediately
offer threads yeah for posting

1170
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,690
facts as she puts it I posted
some facts I got kicked off

1171
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,610
Adam Curry: very bad idea very
very bad idea. So anyway, I

1172
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,100
think it feels like things are
coming to a head you know we got

1173
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:43,440
the Europe coming with a digital
Euro the people are no longer at

1174
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,410
people I got no money they're
gonna have to give people money

1175
01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:50,640
again that hat that Biden omics
yeah one pocket

1176
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,280
John C Dvorak: made Oh call a
bite inflation is it has a

1177
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,100
better ring to it some people
I've never heard bite inflation

1178
01:07:56,130 --> 01:07:58,230
Adam Curry: I know I've seen it
I've seen it posted they're not

1179
01:07:58,230 --> 01:08:03,900
going to call it that and
mainstream Hello but you know

1180
01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:08,910
the the wasn't the six major
banks rode off over $5 billion

1181
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:16,470
and mainly credit card debt
young women everywhere now are

1182
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:25,530
on the pay pig Have you heard of
this? Oh don't pay pig pig pig

1183
01:08:26,010 --> 01:08:28,950
is it now there's there's not
like Unfortunately there's no

1184
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:36,180
pay pig website. Well there are
but a pay pig is a guy who pays

1185
01:08:37,260 --> 01:08:40,350
I think as far as I know mainly
attractive young women young

1186
01:08:40,350 --> 01:08:45,300
women young women to say stuff
about them in their social media

1187
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:48,780
and if and some of them want
just to be humiliated some of

1188
01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:51,840
them even give give their
password like here just take any

1189
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,830
money you want. And yes, yes.

1190
01:08:55,860 --> 01:08:57,420
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is
bogus.

1191
01:08:57,450 --> 01:09:00,960
Adam Curry: No, no. Hey, I've
been hanging out with the kids

1192
01:09:01,530 --> 01:09:04,950
though Yeah, pay pig Are they
involved with pay pig there have

1193
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:09,750
been offers. I can tell you what
one of the offers was? Oh, yeah.

1194
01:09:10,830 --> 01:09:13,410
I will not say which child

1195
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,210
John C Dvorak: I don't care. You
don't care who the child is $300

1196
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,310
Adam Curry: to watch a guy drink
his own urine

1197
01:09:22,380 --> 01:09:25,980
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute. So
let me get this let me let me

1198
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:35,070
kind of focus this so guy wants
to drink urine his own his own

1199
01:09:35,070 --> 01:09:39,540
Okay, well yeah, it could be you
know, it could be lemon kool aid

1200
01:09:39,540 --> 01:09:42,930
for all we know so we know but I
think the whole thing was he

1201
01:09:42,930 --> 01:09:47,970
have to pee it in there to show
for now. Yes. Yeah, I think that

1202
01:09:47,970 --> 01:09:50,790
was part of this guy is going to
go on camera.

1203
01:09:51,149 --> 01:09:54,929
Unknown: Yes. As the kids would
call it cam Yes. ON CAM Yes.

1204
01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:59,400
John C Dvorak: ON CAM and pee
into a jar and then drink it.

1205
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,300
While being watched by one of
the kids and the kids are gonna

1206
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:08,040
get 300 bucks to do this front

1207
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,080
Adam Curry: now they'll he'll
pay him 300 up front

1208
01:10:11,550 --> 01:10:13,440
Unknown: while they take it that
didn't

1209
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,440
Adam Curry: say they didn't but
that's not the point that's not

1210
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:16,980
the point

1211
01:10:17,010 --> 01:10:19,800
John C Dvorak: he was like easy
money to me like I'm available

1212
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:27,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, but so that's
a pay pig that's a payment who's

1213
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:27,240
the

1214
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,150
John C Dvorak: pig? That dumb
shit given the girls 300 bucks

1215
01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:31,200
that Washington P

1216
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:31,680
Unknown: yes

1217
01:10:31,710 --> 01:10:34,320
John C Dvorak: that's the pay
pig so they call pay pigs

1218
01:10:34,350 --> 01:10:38,670
Adam Curry: Yes. I actually
thought I had a clip Hold on a

1219
01:10:38,670 --> 01:10:39,090
second.

1220
01:10:39,660 --> 01:10:43,290
John C Dvorak: I never heard of
anything so stupid a pig people

1221
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,710
that bored with their dad that
much time on their hands?

1222
01:10:47,219 --> 01:10:50,729
Adam Curry: No it's any money
it's a part of what's happening

1223
01:10:50,759 --> 01:10:54,059
in the world by the way you're
on tick tock you're Mr. Tick

1224
01:10:54,059 --> 01:10:57,389
tock Here we go. I'll play this
this clip his his woman on tick

1225
01:10:57,389 --> 01:10:57,839
tock

1226
01:10:58,349 --> 01:11:00,809
Unknown: Yes, there are men out
there who want to give you money

1227
01:11:00,809 --> 01:11:04,259
in return for absolutely
nothing. There's nothing wrong

1228
01:11:04,259 --> 01:11:08,729
in this basically they're called
Pay pigs now pay pigs are pretty

1229
01:11:08,729 --> 01:11:11,159
common. You can find them on the
internet there are specific

1230
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:14,909
websites for this. But a lot of
that comes through traffic on

1231
01:11:14,909 --> 01:11:18,479
social media and essentially
fans they fall in love with the

1232
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,449
person and they send them money
as a thank you for creating

1233
01:11:21,449 --> 01:11:26,339
content. However, pay pigs don't
stick around for long they

1234
01:11:26,339 --> 01:11:29,069
usually demand a lot of
attention from you because they

1235
01:11:29,069 --> 01:11:32,129
feel that they own you all have
kind of power over you because

1236
01:11:32,129 --> 01:11:36,119
they've paid you or they're
buying new gifts. Now you'll

1237
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:39,539
find a lot of people on Tik Tok
for example actually have pay

1238
01:11:39,539 --> 01:11:45,689
pigs and the pigs often feel
used you know because well

1239
01:11:45,689 --> 01:11:47,669
they're not getting anything in
return so Alright, so

1240
01:11:47,670 --> 01:11:50,520
Adam Curry: that's I mean this
this is clip after clip after

1241
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,800
clip of the pay pigs here's
another one.

1242
01:11:53,490 --> 01:11:56,940
Unknown: So basically everyone's
asking me for tutorial assumes

1243
01:11:56,940 --> 01:12:02,820
and pay pigs and the truth is I
don't find them they find me

1244
01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:03,480
after they

1245
01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:06,990
Adam Curry: find they find you
so you post off on on tick tock

1246
01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:10,440
and then the pay pigs contact
you send you money but to do

1247
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:11,040
something

1248
01:12:11,190 --> 01:12:14,220
John C Dvorak: you post what on
tick tock to get contacted just

1249
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:17,400
yourself. I am looking to look
at some funny things.

1250
01:12:18,150 --> 01:12:20,970
Adam Curry: Just be yourself.
Just be be a cute young woman.

1251
01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:21,780
I'm here.

1252
01:12:22,290 --> 01:12:27,030
John C Dvorak: Here's what I'm
going to the cute young woman. I

1253
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:33,660
am so annoyed by them. Massive
number I think they're teens but

1254
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:37,770
I've seen women obviously in
their 20s they they bend over

1255
01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:40,740
they turn on the cam they stand
there in front of the cam Yeah.

1256
01:12:41,130 --> 01:12:45,780
And then they some music comes
on and she they their lip sync

1257
01:12:45,780 --> 01:12:49,410
it or they whatever they do.
They do some stupid dance

1258
01:12:49,410 --> 01:12:52,650
strolling around and they move
their arms and they move their

1259
01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:55,110
hands and they go back and
forth. It was like a kind of a

1260
01:12:55,290 --> 01:13:01,530
lousy version of a John Travolta
dance ad libbed, and they diddle

1261
01:13:01,530 --> 01:13:04,860
around on the screen and dance
and dance and dance. And then

1262
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:09,690
they turn off the video. What is
the point of the stupid chicks

1263
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:12,210
Adam Curry: dancing rolling for
pay pigs?

1264
01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:16,230
John C Dvorak: That's gotta be
it. Yes, that explains it all

1265
01:13:16,230 --> 01:13:19,230
now. I've been wondering I ever
once I'm going through there's

1266
01:13:19,230 --> 01:13:23,070
some dumb dumb girl I'll put it
that way because it kind of cute

1267
01:13:23,070 --> 01:13:26,700
maybe usually over made up and
drink wearing a nice dress and

1268
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:30,960
then they do some stupid
spasmodic dance that is like

1269
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:36,510
what is this? And then I have to
I just by the time I'm grossed

1270
01:13:36,510 --> 01:13:39,570
out by the lousy dancing, it
goes on to the next clip, but

1271
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,900
that could be it. I could
explain it all. John,

1272
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,090
Adam Curry: I'm really a little
concerned about your media

1273
01:13:45,090 --> 01:13:45,750
consumption.

1274
01:13:47,670 --> 01:13:51,000
John C Dvorak: Well, it does
result in a lot of good clips

1275
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,780
and fat.

1276
01:13:52,710 --> 01:13:55,140
Unknown: Oh, no, here we go. Now
that

1277
01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:58,650
you brought it up, talk

1278
01:14:04,380 --> 01:14:07,500
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start
with I found this to be a little

1279
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:10,620
is a bunch. Here's a dietician a
couple of dietitians talking

1280
01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:14,160
about the current state of
eating

1281
01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:17,280
Unknown: a day thing breakfast,
lunch, and dinner is from

1282
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,240
colonialism in white supremacy.
As if we didn't have enough good

1283
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,750
reasons to stop letting external
cues tell us how to feed

1284
01:14:24,750 --> 01:14:27,450
ourselves and start listening to
our internal cues. Here's

1285
01:14:27,450 --> 01:14:30,120
another one that I don't know
about you but I hate when crusty

1286
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,880
old white men tell me what to do
with my life. Or especially tell

1287
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,720
me what to do with my body. So
eat what you want when you want

1288
01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:39,510
there are no rules start
listening to what your body is

1289
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:40,140
telling you.

1290
01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:44,760
Adam Curry: This by the way, I
think is a pay pig troll. You

1291
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,950
crusty old man now, the crusty
old man goes like Oh, I'm gonna

1292
01:14:49,950 --> 01:14:52,830
show you. I'm going to show you
I want to pay you to tell him to

1293
01:14:52,860 --> 01:14:56,640
do let me tell you what to eat.
John. It's a sick, broken world,

1294
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,190
my friend. This is real. It has

1295
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:02,250
John C Dvorak: to do this.
Social media which is your area,

1296
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,240
Adam Curry: all of it has to do
with social media all of it.

1297
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:08,010
Bah.

1298
01:15:09,450 --> 01:15:11,460
John C Dvorak: Okay, here's,
here's here's another thing you

1299
01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:11,970
run into.

1300
01:15:12,450 --> 01:15:14,340
Adam Curry: I'm going to
interject some things as you go

1301
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,510
through these tick tock clips.

1302
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,980
John C Dvorak: Okay, well as you
as you see I have more than one

1303
01:15:20,010 --> 01:15:25,980
I have noticed this Yes. Yeah,
it was a problem. Yeah. Okay,

1304
01:15:25,980 --> 01:15:30,600
let's go to this get done this
one of those guys. And this is

1305
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,560
very common. There's a there's a
bunch of looks. Besides the

1306
01:15:34,590 --> 01:15:36,930
idiotic Danzig I've always
complaint I just

1307
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,490
Adam Curry: play well now you
know one other thing. least we

1308
01:15:38,490 --> 01:15:41,280
know we figured that one out.
That's paid pig trolling.

1309
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,010
John C Dvorak: There's this
looks that millennials have with

1310
01:15:47,010 --> 01:15:49,440
Adam Curry: the eye with the
eyes drawn and a point on the

1311
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:51,390
side like this dad

1312
01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:54,030
John C Dvorak: and there's a
kind of a smirk, a lot of smirk

1313
01:15:54,030 --> 01:15:57,540
and kind of like to wear my lips
are sticking out. I'm smirking

1314
01:15:57,540 --> 01:15:58,560
at you and you are

1315
01:15:59,490 --> 01:16:01,140
Adam Curry: such a cultural
observant.

1316
01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:04,710
John C Dvorak: And then my
eyebrows are going up in the

1317
01:16:04,710 --> 01:16:08,520
middle the to, you know, so they
kind of pointing up and making a

1318
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,700
couple of vertical lines.
They're yellow. Yep. And that

1319
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:14,040
kind of like I'm talking like
out of out of the sight of my

1320
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:19,830
mouth. Okay, well, here's a guy
that's got every one of these

1321
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:25,620
looks and he's a he's a gender a
gender Perry. He's practicing

1322
01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:27,390
gender parenting.

1323
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:29,460
Unknown: If you're doing gender
neutral parenting, gender

1324
01:16:29,460 --> 01:16:32,040
creative parenting, what do you
do when your kid is old enough

1325
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,070
to ask, Hey, am I a boy or girl?
You and me already talked about

1326
01:16:35,070 --> 01:16:36,540
this in the comments. But I
thought it might make an

1327
01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:38,490
interesting video. Because
there's probably a lot of people

1328
01:16:38,490 --> 01:16:40,320
with this question. You don't
even need to be doing this

1329
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,780
parenting method to want to have
sort of a more open minded way

1330
01:16:42,780 --> 01:16:45,000
to answer that kind of a
question from your kid. And my

1331
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,430
answer here is actually pretty
simple. I would just turn it

1332
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:50,610
back into a question. It's windy
out here. I might say well, how

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01:16:50,610 --> 01:16:54,150
do you feel? You feel like a boy
or girl or maybe something else?

1334
01:16:54,150 --> 01:16:56,250
How do you think we might figure
that out? Together? Are you

1335
01:16:56,250 --> 01:16:58,920
asking about how do you look on
the outside or you asked me

1336
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,230
about how you feel on the
inside? Maybe we should go read

1337
01:17:01,230 --> 01:17:03,510
a book about this together. I
have some ideas you want to go

1338
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:06,810
sit down and take a look at I
would share how I know my gender

1339
01:17:06,810 --> 01:17:09,510
identity. It's a question that
gives you an opportunity to have

1340
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:11,190
a conversation and that's a
beautiful thing.

1341
01:17:11,610 --> 01:17:15,330
Adam Curry: When I was a kid, my
mom told me the story when she

1342
01:17:15,330 --> 01:17:18,840
was still alive. We were out in
the garden. I was about six

1343
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,670
years old. She was ready for me
to ask the big question. And

1344
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:32,460
we're gardening. And I say Mom,
yes, Adam. Mom, why is it that

1345
01:17:32,460 --> 01:17:38,310
pirates have knives in their
mouth? between their teeth? What

1346
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:43,320
happened between then and now
that we're asking, am I a boy or

1347
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,720
a girl? Is this really
happening? Is this really

1348
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:46,410
happening?

1349
01:17:46,980 --> 01:17:50,760
John C Dvorak: It is when you're
gender affirming parenting. When

1350
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:57,180
you have a freaky dad like this
dude. It probably is happening

1351
01:17:57,180 --> 01:18:03,000
because they're encouraging it.
It is when all I know is his

1352
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,920
creepy. This guy's creepy. He's
glib. He's got all those looks.

1353
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,000
I was bitching about

1354
01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:10,470
Adam Curry: do you think he
actually has a kid?

1355
01:18:12,090 --> 01:18:15,540
John C Dvorak: He's got to?
Well, that's the there's the

1356
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:15,750
old.

1357
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:21,720
Adam Curry: I'd like to point
out that the New York Post cites

1358
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:26,640
a a study. It was a poll
actually was a poll. So not a

1359
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:32,550
study a poll of Brown University
students. Brown University, I

1360
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:34,440
would say rather elite school
now.

1361
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:38,160
Unknown: Yep. elite school, Ivy
League.

1362
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:43,680
Adam Curry: 38% of students
identified as either homosexual,

1363
01:18:43,710 --> 01:18:48,630
bisexual, queer, asexual
pansexual questioning or other

1364
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,200
30x percent.

1365
01:18:52,769 --> 01:18:55,799
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but that's
Brown. I think that's always

1366
01:18:55,799 --> 01:18:58,649
been the case there. But the
point is, right, it's out of the

1367
01:18:58,649 --> 01:18:59,069
way.

1368
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:04,140
Adam Curry: The point is. The
point is, this is contained and

1369
01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:07,530
for as the same way it's, it's
cool, you know, it's like it's

1370
01:19:07,530 --> 01:19:11,730
the thing to say so you're part
of it and you queer was queer.

1371
01:19:11,730 --> 01:19:13,200
Now everybody's clear.

1372
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,530
John C Dvorak: Now, I'm not
gonna argue that debt, but

1373
01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:21,180
that's kind of a disgusting now,

1374
01:19:21,660 --> 01:19:24,750
Adam Curry: along with these
clips, I'm gonna read this email

1375
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,620
to you. This is unfortunate, not
a great email from our parents

1376
01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:36,480
whose son stepson has, as you
know, he he left the family and

1377
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:39,090
then he kind of came back for a
moment but then things went

1378
01:19:39,090 --> 01:19:44,040
south again, this is the sissy
Hypno porn steps on if you

1379
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:50,370
remember, now, he got sucked
into the sissy Hypno porn. You

1380
01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:52,110
know the specification
pornography.

1381
01:19:52,110 --> 01:19:53,970
John C Dvorak: Yes. Yes, I do.
Remember I don't remember the

1382
01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:55,260
details, though. Well,

1383
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:58,260
Adam Curry: it's been a month
since our son has talked to us.

1384
01:19:58,260 --> 01:20:01,170
I'm sure he's experiencing shame
and Going back to his sissy

1385
01:20:01,170 --> 01:20:06,090
Hypno porn life. Tick tock, I'm
telling you is designated to pit

1386
01:20:06,090 --> 01:20:09,720
children against parents. It
doesn't work when the parents

1387
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,020
drink the Kool Aid. But just
like in the Cultural Revolution,

1388
01:20:13,170 --> 01:20:16,290
parents who denied the reality
of the Great Leap formalism

1389
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,960
maintained relationships with
their kids, I'm glad you

1390
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,750
enlightened me to the mouse
connection to all this. I did a

1391
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:24,750
deep dive on the Great Leap
Forward and cultural revolution.

1392
01:20:25,140 --> 01:20:31,950
But this is something called
kids are going no contact. No

1393
01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:35,250
Contact is what it's called. And
they're being encouraged Here's

1394
01:20:35,250 --> 01:20:39,300
the article more kids are going
no content and cutting off their

1395
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:44,040
parents. So these ghouls who are
are sucking children insert

1396
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:47,880
young men especially in this
case, into the specification

1397
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:53,430
porn making them believe they're
trans and subsequently setting

1398
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:57,990
up only fans for them so they
can feel love, just like just

1399
01:20:57,990 --> 01:21:06,540
like the the Rakowski sister.
It's mental. It's completely

1400
01:21:06,540 --> 01:21:11,280
meant I'm just going to call it
what it is. But now we're into

1401
01:21:12,540 --> 01:21:18,180
domestic abuse. I severe crime,
British parents can be

1402
01:21:18,180 --> 01:21:22,800
prosecuted by refusing to pay
for transgender treatments, even

1403
01:21:22,830 --> 01:21:27,870
if your spouse and misgendering
your child can get your child

1404
01:21:27,870 --> 01:21:29,250
taken away from you.

1405
01:21:34,650 --> 01:21:36,390
You got very quiet.

1406
01:21:37,019 --> 01:21:39,809
John C Dvorak: It's astonishing
what this stuff and that is not

1407
01:21:39,839 --> 01:21:43,769
that debt little last bit has
gotten as cropped up in Canada.

1408
01:21:43,919 --> 01:21:45,269
And it's cropped up here.

1409
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:52,500
Adam Curry: And I have an email
to share. Anonymous. I am a c a

1410
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:57,870
s a court appointed special
advocate for foster children in

1411
01:21:57,870 --> 01:22:02,730
a red state. There are a lot of
Indiana listeners and people in

1412
01:22:02,730 --> 01:22:05,220
other deep red states who may
listen to your show feel

1413
01:22:05,220 --> 01:22:08,190
protected against transgender
ideology impacting them,

1414
01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:12,480
especially when we've been told
it's so political. after all. We

1415
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,760
live in red states with
conservative politicians so this

1416
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:19,350
can only happen to parents in
Canada or California. In 2020. I

1417
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:22,470
had a court case involving the
removal of a 13 year old girl

1418
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:25,620
and her sibling from their home
the crime. The father

1419
01:22:25,620 --> 01:22:29,940
misgendered her. She told her
school guidance counselor and

1420
01:22:29,940 --> 01:22:33,180
the guidance counselor contacted
the Department of Child Services

1421
01:22:33,180 --> 01:22:36,870
DCS, they removed the children
in the middle of a school day.

1422
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,740
These children were placed in
foster care, and the case was

1423
01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:44,310
assigned to me. I attended
supervised visitations the

1424
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:46,530
counselor running the
visitations would warn the

1425
01:22:46,530 --> 01:22:50,220
father beforehand that if he
misgendered, his son, who was a

1426
01:22:50,220 --> 01:22:53,490
13 year old girl, she would end
the visit early because it was

1427
01:22:53,490 --> 01:22:57,360
an act of violence causing harm.
I petitioned the judge and

1428
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,870
implored the Department of Child
Services multiple times to close

1429
01:23:00,870 --> 01:23:03,180
this case and put the children
back in their home where they

1430
01:23:03,180 --> 01:23:06,570
belong. warning that this was
massive government overreach, it

1431
01:23:06,570 --> 01:23:10,380
took three months for the judge
to dismiss the case. Three

1432
01:23:10,380 --> 01:23:14,160
months at a normal parent fought
to get his kids back sidenote,

1433
01:23:14,340 --> 01:23:17,430
while in foster care, the
children got the COVID Jab

1434
01:23:17,460 --> 01:23:20,490
against the will of the Father.
It wasn't until I demand that

1435
01:23:20,490 --> 01:23:23,640
the Father had final say over
his children's medical care that

1436
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,550
this went before the judge and
he ordered the second dose not

1437
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:29,880
be administered without parental
consent. I want to remind the no

1438
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,970
agenda list. There's no agenda
nation. This is a deep red

1439
01:23:32,970 --> 01:23:36,960
County in a deep red state. And
this was 2020 over three years

1440
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,110
ago. For parents who think the
public school system is broken

1441
01:23:40,110 --> 01:23:43,350
and in need of repair be
advised. It's working exactly

1442
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:46,500
how it was intended to work and
things will only get worst.

1443
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,100
Compulsory education was
designed to enslave and produce

1444
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:54,150
compliant consumers. Parents
stopped blaming tick tock social

1445
01:23:54,150 --> 01:23:57,420
media, cell phones and public
schools and start taking

1446
01:23:57,420 --> 01:24:00,060
responsibility and ownership for
what's influencing your

1447
01:24:00,060 --> 01:24:08,010
children. At the end of the day,
there's a couple of links in

1448
01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:12,360
there for people to take a look
at. Is this she? Yes. This is in

1449
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,240
one of our producers would this
boots on the ground and I really

1450
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:21,030
appreciate her taking some risk
and telling us this, too. This

1451
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:24,480
is why this is what's going on.
And this happened three years

1452
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:25,020
ago.

1453
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,220
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to what's
going on.

1454
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,680
Adam Curry: And I would have to
say that's a a Maoist movement.

1455
01:24:35,010 --> 01:24:37,230
It's totally my wish being
controlled by the

1456
01:24:37,230 --> 01:24:39,570
John C Dvorak: very well done. I
mean, you had the one thing you

1457
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:43,650
have to say if you're going to
be honest about it gets really

1458
01:24:43,650 --> 01:24:49,950
well done. The Maoists behind it
are just great. They're

1459
01:24:49,950 --> 01:24:52,560
fantastic and the pot the
general public seems to be

1460
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,280
oblivious, which is exactly what
you want a bunch of oblivious

1461
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,250
boneheads and that's what you
end that's how you end up with

1462
01:24:59,250 --> 01:25:03,720
that Brown. Diversity survey,
which indicated that you should

1463
01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:06,870
I would like to read that again,
because it's pretty interesting

1464
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:10,260
that this would be a situation
which makes no sense,

1465
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,380
historically, but can you read
that brown data again?

1466
01:25:13,410 --> 01:25:17,250
Adam Curry: 38 to 38% of
students at the ivy already has

1467
01:25:17,250 --> 01:25:21,900
almost 40% identified as either
homosexual, bisexual, queer,

1468
01:25:21,930 --> 01:25:30,090
asexual pansexual questioning or
other There you go. Yeah. And so

1469
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:30,690
when

1470
01:25:30,750 --> 01:25:35,100
John C Dvorak: when children
1% 2%, maybe five when children

1471
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:35,760
are convinced of

1472
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,040
Adam Curry: these things,
someone has a hold on them. And

1473
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,070
by the way, you know, we just
going back to the sound of

1474
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:43,980
freedom, which is also about
abuse of children stealing

1475
01:25:43,980 --> 01:25:47,580
children selling children, God
knows what they're doing. Look

1476
01:25:47,580 --> 01:25:49,920
at the difference. But do you
remember the Netflix series

1477
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:55,590
cuties? Do you remember that?
Yes, how fawning was was the the

1478
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:57,360
main stream over cuties?

1479
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:00,210
John C Dvorak: I think we
discussed it on the show as it

1480
01:26:00,210 --> 01:26:02,970
does kind of a borderline
disgusting show. certainly

1481
01:26:02,970 --> 01:26:06,480
Adam Curry: did. We certainly
did. And now compare that to

1482
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:09,600
sound of freedom. Something is
wrong.

1483
01:26:12,090 --> 01:26:12,930
John C Dvorak: I'd say

1484
01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:16,830
Adam Curry: proposed, proposed
California bill would brand

1485
01:26:16,830 --> 01:26:20,880
parents abusive if they refuse
to affirm their child's gender.

1486
01:26:25,620 --> 01:26:27,540
John C Dvorak: Birth. Yeah,
that's Gavin Newsom.

1487
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,190
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1488
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,820
John C Dvorak: I don't know
who's pulling his strings. But

1489
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:35,880
somebody there's some the whole
thing is ludicrous. And which

1490
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,690
brings us back to what happens
to the people who are caught up

1491
01:26:39,690 --> 01:26:45,210
in this and I have two, two
characters who are going to go

1492
01:26:45,210 --> 01:26:48,990
on Tik Tok and moan and groan
about being misgendered and what

1493
01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:52,050
it really means to them. Okay,
and I want to play the first

1494
01:26:52,050 --> 01:26:54,330
one, which is the myths of
gender pain,

1495
01:26:54,450 --> 01:26:56,730
Unknown: I get so many comments
like this. And I want to explain

1496
01:26:56,730 --> 01:26:59,490
something being misgendered can
be an incredibly painful

1497
01:26:59,490 --> 01:27:01,920
experience. In that moment, we
are reminded that the world

1498
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,620
places us into a bucket that we
do not fit in. And it is

1499
01:27:04,620 --> 01:27:06,900
incredibly dramatic to grow up
being constantly told you

1500
01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:09,420
something you're not so for a
lot of people being misgendered

1501
01:27:09,420 --> 01:27:11,610
triggers that trauma. So if it
looks like I'm mad, it's

1502
01:27:11,610 --> 01:27:14,550
probably because I'm in a lot of
pain, in the same way that when

1503
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:16,950
we stub our toe, we scream
expletives because we're in

1504
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:20,010
pain, also us non binary people,
we're forced to educate

1505
01:27:20,010 --> 01:27:23,040
ourselves on our own existence.
So it can be frustrating when we

1506
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,050
see people who are not putting
in the work and constantly

1507
01:27:25,050 --> 01:27:27,630
making mistakes, and I know what
is new, I know mistakes are

1508
01:27:27,630 --> 01:27:29,790
bound to happen. And I have
patients for people who are

1509
01:27:29,790 --> 01:27:32,520
genuinely putting in the work. I
know so many of you don't want

1510
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,590
to be hurting non binary people.
But the truth is, when you miss

1511
01:27:34,590 --> 01:27:37,380
gender rescue, you are to expect
us to hold your hand through it

1512
01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:40,140
while we're being hurt. That's
abusive behavior.

1513
01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:42,690
Adam Curry: Alright, so
something I need to say about

1514
01:27:42,690 --> 01:27:46,170
this. So what you're seeing here
is not just someone's opinion

1515
01:27:46,170 --> 01:27:50,010
and their nuts. This is someone
who has no other way to be an

1516
01:27:50,010 --> 01:27:54,780
influencer to get likes to get
traction to get followers to get

1517
01:27:54,780 --> 01:27:58,560
kudos to get whatever it is
whatever the reward mechanism is

1518
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,160
of social media in this case,
Tik Tok, which I don't actually

1519
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,540
know but you can surmise what it
is. This is just another part of

1520
01:28:06,540 --> 01:28:11,880
the reward loop. And so it's
just another thing to talk about

1521
01:28:12,030 --> 01:28:15,030
that you can get people going
Yeah, that's right. You're good.

1522
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:19,320
I'm following you go slay Queen
through and this the same with

1523
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,850
him like a troll. Yes. Well,
it's not it's a reward system is

1524
01:28:24,330 --> 01:28:28,590
the number one coveted job in in
the world now is influencer

1525
01:28:28,890 --> 01:28:32,430
everybody. Look everybody loves
getting kudos. Like, Hey, I got

1526
01:28:32,430 --> 01:28:35,430
some cute I got some likes. Now
this is fantastic. I'm doing

1527
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:39,180
great. I'm popular. People love
me. So if you have anything to

1528
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:43,470
talk about what's easier than to
go? And don't miss gender? Me? I

1529
01:28:43,470 --> 01:28:47,430
don't know. It's it's harmful.
It's hurting me. I can do that.

1530
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,280
Every every you can do that. In
fact, I think you should open a

1531
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,970
tick tock and be the old crusty
white guy who's who's mad that

1532
01:28:53,970 --> 01:28:55,620
he's misgendered put a wig on.

1533
01:28:56,820 --> 01:28:58,650
John C Dvorak: But do it to you
should do.

1534
01:29:00,390 --> 01:29:05,670
Adam Curry: Yes, I know. I know
about. The other Yeah. Yeah,

1535
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:10,710
this is it's it's an evil evil
loop and people are stuck in it.

1536
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:15,480
And even if they if the problem,
this person, probably not

1537
01:29:15,690 --> 01:29:19,260
different gender at all. It's
just a thing to do. And what you

1538
01:29:19,260 --> 01:29:22,380
can say, here is I'm queer. I'm
queer.

1539
01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:27,150
John C Dvorak: Again, is where I
part ways with your concept and

1540
01:29:27,150 --> 01:29:29,670
things. Because I believe these
people are more sincere than you

1541
01:29:29,670 --> 01:29:31,680
do. Generally speaking. Well,
eventually

1542
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,320
Adam Curry: you convince me yes,
they're sincere. They're queer.

1543
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:35,160
Great.

1544
01:29:35,370 --> 01:29:38,760
John C Dvorak: I mean, once this
year, I'm queer. So now what

1545
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:43,440
bothered me about this is this
idea of putting in the work and

1546
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:47,790
he said it twice. Yeah. Or she?
I don't know. He never said on

1547
01:29:47,790 --> 01:29:53,970
the thing what? Gender Vichy it
is, but putting in the word this

1548
01:29:53,970 --> 01:29:57,360
is like, Wait, why should I do
anything? I mean, the idea of

1549
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,360
social cues were supposed to
take care of this for me So I

1550
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:04,560
saw somebody wearing a dress and
it had a blonde wig. That's uh,

1551
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,490
she, yes, it's easy enough in
your little kid and somebody's

1552
01:30:08,490 --> 01:30:11,550
wearing pants and you know,
rough customer guy with a beard

1553
01:30:12,210 --> 01:30:16,620
key. I don't shouldn't have to
go beyond that because I don't

1554
01:30:16,620 --> 01:30:20,520
need to put in the work on every
individual that I don't even

1555
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:21,690
know who they are.

1556
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,930
Adam Curry: Do otherwise the
influencer has no gig. If we

1557
01:30:24,930 --> 01:30:27,780
don't if we can't say you need
to put in the work, which by the

1558
01:30:27,780 --> 01:30:31,140
way stems from Black Lives
Matter. Do the work. Do the

1559
01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:31,740
work.

1560
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:34,980
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, I
thought it was pretty dead stem

1561
01:30:34,980 --> 01:30:39,330
from what was it? Was that
woman? Yes. That did the book

1562
01:30:39,330 --> 01:30:40,650
us. Yes, White River

1563
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,180
Unknown: white privilege do

1564
01:30:42,180 --> 01:30:44,820
Adam Curry: the black. Okay,
white privilege, do the work.

1565
01:30:44,820 --> 01:30:47,760
You got to be doing the work.
Put in the work. You're not

1566
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,600
doing the work. I can scold you
for not doing the work. That's

1567
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:52,620
what this is.

1568
01:30:53,250 --> 01:30:55,170
John C Dvorak: All right. So go
to the next guy another

1569
01:30:55,200 --> 01:31:00,030
complaint or this another
misgendered poor soul. And this

1570
01:31:00,030 --> 01:31:02,910
is the one who's not only miss
gender, but misgendered. And

1571
01:31:02,940 --> 01:31:05,700
Unknown: irked. And I genuinely
think that people don't realize

1572
01:31:05,700 --> 01:31:08,700
how deeply microaggressions and
misgendering affects trans

1573
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:12,690
people in Houston tiny example I
auditioned slash interviewed for

1574
01:31:12,690 --> 01:31:14,700
this film intensive and one of
the things they talked about in

1575
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:17,100
my interview was being a gender
fluid actor and wanting to fight

1576
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:19,410
affirmative spaces to tell queer
narratives. One of the

1577
01:31:19,410 --> 01:31:22,200
administrators who has her
pronouns in her email signature

1578
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,110
pushes me on to the final round
with this email that misgendered

1579
01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:28,230
me three different times my
pronouns are in my email

1580
01:31:28,230 --> 01:31:31,860
signature, my Zoom name, my
resume my application and on my

1581
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:35,100
film reel, so I respond
cordially. And I add this before

1582
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:37,170
I've even met anyone for this
final interview, I've had to

1583
01:31:37,170 --> 01:31:39,720
correct it administrator in
front of her boss, and I've

1584
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,840
already had to be on the defense
defending my own identity, This

1585
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,270
just creates an awkward power
dynamic that could have been

1586
01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:47,460
completely avoided. And
depending on this person's

1587
01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:50,220
response, it can either be a non
issue, or it puts me at a major

1588
01:31:50,220 --> 01:31:53,130
disadvantage. This is something
says people just do not deal

1589
01:31:53,130 --> 01:31:55,650
with and it's also really easy
to get someone's pronouns,

1590
01:31:55,650 --> 01:31:57,480
right, especially when you're
typing them out.

1591
01:31:57,660 --> 01:32:01,320
Adam Curry: Now, this is the
social control. This is this is

1592
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,560
this is trans mouse. And right
here, the social control of

1593
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,380
pronouns, that's where it all
started. And it's in the

1594
01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:11,340
workplace. And people are afraid
to just call bullcrap because

1595
01:32:11,340 --> 01:32:14,970
you can get fired Oh, but it's a
beautiful mechanism. And this

1596
01:32:14,970 --> 01:32:19,830
has been going on for decades.
And here we are. And by the way

1597
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:23,160
out with these stupid clips and
the only gig we can get and keep

1598
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,480
is this podcasting

1599
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:28,650
John C Dvorak: because we only
want the support of the people

1600
01:32:28,650 --> 01:32:30,900
out there who produced the show
and

1601
01:32:30,900 --> 01:32:33,570
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage

1602
01:32:33,570 --> 01:32:38,010
say in the morning to you the
man who put the C in sincerely

1603
01:32:38,010 --> 01:32:40,770
queer ladies and gentlemen say
hello to my friend on the other

1604
01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:43,110
end one only Mr. Johnson

1605
01:32:48,870 --> 01:32:51,780
John C Dvorak: Hello, Mr. Add in
the morning to you Adam Curry

1606
01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:54,870
who doesn't definitely does not
want to hear a clip I am

1607
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:58,350
guessing anyway. No, she was in
rough in the air subs in the

1608
01:32:58,350 --> 01:32:59,730
water all the names and lights
up there

1609
01:32:59,820 --> 01:33:00,360
Unknown: in the morning

1610
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:07,950
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the trolls and the troll room

1611
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:10,290
out the trolls for saying hello
Trump put your heel down

1612
01:33:14,580 --> 01:33:18,510
scurrying away 2015. That's good
for Thursday.

1613
01:33:20,250 --> 01:33:22,500
John C Dvorak: That's fantastic
for Thursday. That's

1614
01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:24,870
Adam Curry: the new normal. And
boy, let me tell you this

1615
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:27,930
donation segment we've got all
kinds of goofy things to talk

1616
01:33:27,930 --> 01:33:31,560
about. Some of the in fact some
of the donations I picked

1617
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,850
earlier that deal with this
actual concept of trans Maoism

1618
01:33:36,270 --> 01:33:40,890
people. People are donated
before we get to that a reminder

1619
01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:45,000
that these trolls are listening.
And they can listen live like

1620
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:49,800
you. If you're not listening
live at troll room.io where we

1621
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,440
have the troll room and of
course no agenda stream isn't

1622
01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:55,560
even listed no agenda stream.com
If you want or we recommend

1623
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,640
getting a modern podcast app at
podcast apps.com You can import

1624
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,940
all of your legacy podcasts. But
you also get all the features

1625
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:07,890
about 25 new features of modern
podcasts and when we go live as

1626
01:34:07,890 --> 01:34:11,760
with any other show that wants
to do it live, boom, you get an

1627
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,720
alert and you can pop right into
the troll room. Listen to the

1628
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,930
stream live. It's it's a format
we've been using for almost 16

1629
01:34:18,930 --> 01:34:23,250
years and now it's in the apps.
So why wouldn't you use it? Of

1630
01:34:23,250 --> 01:34:27,750
course you can also follow us at
our social network without algos

1631
01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:32,370
no AI there no agenda social.com
Soon to be federated with

1632
01:34:32,370 --> 01:34:38,520
threads for about 10 minutes
until they block us follow John

1633
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,430
C. Dvorak at no agenda
social.com Adam at no agenda

1634
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:45,720
social.com And of course we are
a as we mentioned earlier, we

1635
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,170
are a value for value podcast.
We pioneered the entire concept

1636
01:34:49,410 --> 01:34:52,680
and you don't have to subscribe.
We're not asking for tips. We're

1637
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:57,120
not asked for donations we're
we're asking for these value. If

1638
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,090
you get value from what you
heard if you laughed if you you

1639
01:35:00,090 --> 01:35:02,790
learned something, if you're
able to something from the show

1640
01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:06,570
notes, which people find very,
very valuable, we have the clip

1641
01:35:06,570 --> 01:35:08,580
all the clips from every show
are uploaded, they're all the

1642
01:35:08,580 --> 01:35:11,580
stories we talk about many of
the boots on the ground reports,

1643
01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:15,240
you can use that for your own
reports for just dazzling your

1644
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,360
co workers, whatever you want.
If there's value you get from

1645
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,720
it, send it back to us, whatever
you find of equal value that may

1646
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,830
be time talent or treasure a lot
of people put in treasure will

1647
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:29,070
tell will be thanking them. A
lot of people put in time by

1648
01:35:29,070 --> 01:35:31,860
support by hitting people in the
mouth, letting them know about

1649
01:35:31,860 --> 01:35:35,490
the no agenda show. I see it all
the time on social media, thank

1650
01:35:35,490 --> 01:35:39,330
you. And of course, we have
talent, lots of talent is comes

1651
01:35:39,330 --> 01:35:43,920
into the mix here. And we love
our artists every single show.

1652
01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:49,620
We have a new piece of art. It's
it's fun. It's exciting. It

1653
01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:54,270
gives the people love reposting
it. So it's very helpful in that

1654
01:35:54,270 --> 01:35:58,770
regard. It's also not boring
like every other podcasting. And

1655
01:35:58,770 --> 01:36:02,820
once in a while I get to know I
can never find the no agenda

1656
01:36:02,820 --> 01:36:06,540
show on my podcast that because
it doesn't have a handy artwork

1657
01:36:06,540 --> 01:36:10,650
that looks the same every single
time. Well, maybe you're not cut

1658
01:36:10,650 --> 01:36:11,760
out for us.

1659
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,610
John C Dvorak: I don't think
anyone's ever said that. Yes, I

1660
01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:18,840
Adam Curry: someone tweeted a
just last show. Just the last

1661
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,140
show. And I said oh that may be
well that may be

1662
01:36:22,170 --> 01:36:25,710
John C Dvorak: is the words no
agenda too hard to decipher.

1663
01:36:26,220 --> 01:36:29,730
Yes, yeah, because it it didn't
go gold right at the top these

1664
01:36:29,730 --> 01:36:33,090
Adam Curry: are these are people
who have 8000 subscriptions in

1665
01:36:33,090 --> 01:36:38,160
their podcast app listen at four
times speed. If I can't find

1666
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:38,940
that, I can't find that.

1667
01:36:40,380 --> 01:36:44,010
John C Dvorak: I can't find
guide that's too hard for me not

1668
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:44,850
find it.

1669
01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:48,120
Adam Curry: Your watch will get
a whole bunch of emails. Do you

1670
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,090
all agree with a guy he's kind
of hard to find who?

1671
01:36:51,930 --> 01:36:53,850
John C Dvorak: We don't care.
That's the voice you should

1672
01:36:53,850 --> 01:36:54,480
perfect.

1673
01:36:55,470 --> 01:36:58,200
Adam Curry: All of us how can we
suck and we're gonna go like

1674
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,580
this. I can remember what I did

1675
01:37:01,230 --> 01:37:02,130
John C Dvorak: was that it was a

1676
01:37:02,130 --> 01:37:04,860
Adam Curry: niche now I can't
remember back and listen. We

1677
01:37:04,860 --> 01:37:08,760
want to thank the artists for
episode 1571. We titled that one

1678
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:16,200
wrong. Which man, a lot of
people that lady from the wrong

1679
01:37:16,260 --> 01:37:20,100
NPR interview. She did that
conspiracy crew she did a whole

1680
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:26,550
video on that thing. She is very
wrong indeed. Yeah, you guys in

1681
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:29,190
the show notes you got to take a
look at what you and some people

1682
01:37:29,190 --> 01:37:29,400
say

1683
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:31,470
John C Dvorak: that you're
talking about the woman who did

1684
01:37:31,470 --> 01:37:34,440
the book that was the that? I
don't think that was that the

1685
01:37:34,440 --> 01:37:38,160
guest I thought the guests was
the wrong? No, no, I thought it

1686
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:39,390
was the host that was the one.

1687
01:37:39,930 --> 01:37:42,300
Adam Curry: Well, I heard two
things. I heard one it was coke.

1688
01:37:42,510 --> 01:37:45,690
Someone was coked out like a
like a Coke, throat coke throat

1689
01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:47,250
or something. And another one

1690
01:37:47,250 --> 01:37:49,440
John C Dvorak: was he end up
saying wrong. Wrong Wrong.

1691
01:37:50,940 --> 01:37:54,150
Adam Curry: And another one was
millio California Ahsoka SoCal.

1692
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:58,770
Yeah, it could be it could be
million. Anyway, networks did a

1693
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,220
dynamite piece of art for us and
I can't wait to talk about the

1694
01:38:02,310 --> 01:38:07,200
cluster bombs later in the show.
This was the cluster duds for

1695
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,330
those of you who are not
familiar with Milk Duds in the

1696
01:38:09,330 --> 01:38:14,340
United States, it's a loved
candy. It was a pasty flush of

1697
01:38:14,340 --> 01:38:18,450
the Milk Duds bite size bomblets
33 fragments up armored taste it

1698
01:38:18,450 --> 01:38:21,750
was just without I mean, we
there were several other pieces

1699
01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:23,610
of art that we'd like but this
was beautiful.

1700
01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:26,310
John C Dvorak: And there was a
there was a in this case the

1701
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:29,460
done this show. Yeah, there was
at least five pieces that were

1702
01:38:29,460 --> 01:38:30,960
all usable there were

1703
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,620
Adam Curry: now we liked this
one also because it had the

1704
01:38:34,620 --> 01:38:36,540
white background which really
makes it pop

1705
01:38:38,250 --> 01:38:40,680
John C Dvorak: was the second
version. I'm not even sure. And

1706
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,650
then there was another version
of the almost exact same art

1707
01:38:43,650 --> 01:38:46,590
done by Parker Paulie. Yeah,

1708
01:38:47,700 --> 01:38:51,510
Adam Curry: yeah, he had 1%
duds. Yeah, it was it was close.

1709
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:56,850
Let's see what else was there.
There was now honorary mentioned

1710
01:38:56,850 --> 01:39:00,270
for the conspiracy addled Boomer
cap.

1711
01:39:00,930 --> 01:39:03,060
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I use it
for the newsletter. Yeah,

1712
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:06,450
Adam Curry: that was funny. It
wasn't the best but it was

1713
01:39:06,450 --> 01:39:13,620
funny. what else what else was
was on the high on the menu here

1714
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:20,070
fact check wrong and also no
agenda is never wrong so

1715
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:25,080
multiple Ronk article life wrong
but we wanted we wanted to title

1716
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,800
the show wrong that was obvious
so and we try not to title the

1717
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:33,120
show the same as the artwork.
There were some cluster bomb

1718
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:38,100
jokes in there. Someone actually
put your your car in there. I

1719
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:43,140
was going to Blogger Of course.
What else? What else was there

1720
01:39:43,140 --> 01:39:48,300
that we liked? Was there
anything else? You know?

1721
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,250
John C Dvorak: Everything was
good. I just obviously generally

1722
01:39:53,250 --> 01:39:54,090
speaking, it was

1723
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,030
Adam Curry: in general. Yeah,
just just in the artists are so

1724
01:39:57,030 --> 01:40:02,100
talented. We love them so much.
Watch it it's a competition was

1725
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:04,680
anything we need to critique
somebody don't want to do a

1726
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:05,730
really crappy job.

1727
01:40:08,580 --> 01:40:10,530
John C Dvorak: I couldn't come
up with anything. There's no

1728
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,830
real harsh critique here. We try
to do harsh critiques and losers

1729
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:16,230
no harsh critique, like
something that should have won

1730
01:40:16,230 --> 01:40:18,390
but because they did this or
that wrong.

1731
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:21,330
Adam Curry: Now that I'm looking
at it Bowling for Ukraine, it's

1732
01:40:21,330 --> 01:40:24,720
too complicated. But Francisco,
there's that one. So on the

1733
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:29,370
right hand side, Francisco
Scaramanga if he has beautiful

1734
01:40:29,370 --> 01:40:32,580
fonts he did it did something
original for sure, but it just

1735
01:40:32,580 --> 01:40:37,680
didn't have that. That X Factor,
you know, and that that was no

1736
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,520
good day, Kenny. Ben had the
suicide by jet which just no one

1737
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,810
can't see that. That's a jet
engine. Good try, though. Good

1738
01:40:45,810 --> 01:40:50,280
try. We appreciate all of it.
It's It's such nice use of your

1739
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,100
talent. And these are great
artists because they do this

1740
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:55,800
while they're listening live.
They just throw this together

1741
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:56,820
and get it up there because they
might

1742
01:40:56,820 --> 01:40:59,520
John C Dvorak: kind of like duds
away touch up by certain net

1743
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:03,990
Ned. It's a 33rd Squadron f the
EU and duds away?

1744
01:41:04,019 --> 01:41:05,159
Adam Curry: That was nice. Yes,

1745
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,500
John C Dvorak: a patch. I think
it's a nice patch.

1746
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:12,570
Adam Curry: That should be in
the no agenda shop. This patch.

1747
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:18,960
Possibly. Anyway, no agenda art.
generator.com is where you can

1748
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,720
see all of these pieces of art
and you can refresh it live.

1749
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:28,050
They're already uploading pieces
405 For this episode, or you can

1750
01:41:28,050 --> 01:41:31,710
use one of those modern podcast
apps, Dred Scott does chapters

1751
01:41:31,710 --> 01:41:36,000
for us and changes the arch
continuously. When you're in the

1752
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,840
car. If you're using CarPlay on
some of these apps, or Android

1753
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,780
Auto you can actually see that
art change right in front of you

1754
01:41:42,780 --> 01:41:48,690
on your on your dashboard, which
is also fun. That's great. Thank

1755
01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:50,910
you artists, we appreciate you
and of course, thank you Ness

1756
01:41:50,910 --> 01:41:54,840
works very well done. Now. Let
us thank some of the executive

1757
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:58,980
and Associate Executive
producers for episode 1572. We

1758
01:41:58,980 --> 01:42:01,620
call them all everybody's a
producer. No one's just a

1759
01:42:01,620 --> 01:42:04,980
listener. Everybody produces
somehow with your time talent or

1760
01:42:04,980 --> 01:42:08,370
treasure. And just like
Hollywood when someone comes in

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01:42:08,370 --> 01:42:11,370
with big bucks to help us out,
you become an executive producer

1762
01:42:11,370 --> 01:42:14,790
or Associate Executive Producer
and we kick it off with Damian

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01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:20,070
Alderson from outta Montes out
to Monty Altamonte Springs Delta

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01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:24,240
Mont Alto mon Springs Florida
with a favorite number four five

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01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:28,710
6.78 In the morning gents de
meowed isn't here who I met in

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01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:33,900
Nashville. She's fantastic. He's
very funny. Damien is in here

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01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:38,010
trying to keep it short and
sweet. Jingles oh I didn't for

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01:42:38,010 --> 01:42:42,930
some reason miss these from her.
There's no there there a JC the

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01:42:42,930 --> 01:42:50,820
classic. No, there. Yeah, I got
that one. An Amen fist bump.

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01:42:50,910 --> 01:42:56,400
Another no agenda classic. Love
that. And little girl gate. This

1771
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,600
donation brings me to VI
Countess. Don't underestimate

1772
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:06,150
those monthly donations, y'all.
You guys are putting out

1773
01:43:06,180 --> 01:43:09,060
excellent material. Thank you.
As always, I'm also also asking

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01:43:09,060 --> 01:43:12,780
for travel karma. As I head to
Greece, I'll be celebrating my

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01:43:12,780 --> 01:43:17,550
35th birthday in Santorini on
the 18th so please add me to the

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01:43:17,550 --> 01:43:20,700
birthday list. I look forward to
catching up on new episodes when

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01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:24,150
I returned from vacation. What
do they not have? Internet in

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01:43:24,150 --> 01:43:27,750
Santorini? You think she's just
taking like a sabbatical

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01:43:28,290 --> 01:43:31,800
John C Dvorak: from? Some people
do that? Okay, well that's okay.

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01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:34,050
We have no problem leave your
cell phone at home. That's the

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01:43:34,050 --> 01:43:35,820
main love and let Dame

1782
01:43:35,850 --> 01:43:39,060
Adam Curry: vie Countess to be
me. How does then right exactly

1783
01:43:39,090 --> 01:43:42,390
like there's there's no agenda?
No, that's not what it that's

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01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:48,000
not what I wanted to know.
There. There. Hold on. No, there

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01:43:48,300 --> 01:43:57,510
are there. Now that's weird. I
don't have that one. Is that AI

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01:43:57,540 --> 01:44:02,760
does. Does that exist? There's
no there there. I kind of

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01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:07,410
remember it. I can't remember.
Mom. Sorry. I'll have to look it

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01:44:07,410 --> 01:44:10,470
up for you. Hey, man. Fist bump.
No, that's also the wrong one.

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01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:16,440
I'm wrong. Two for to a Fizbo I
liked that one. No, but I'm two

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01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:17,610
for two. This is this is not

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01:44:17,610 --> 01:44:19,320
Unknown: very good. Hey, man.
Fist bump. There

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01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:23,850
Adam Curry: we go. Oh, man. So
sorry about that. You've got

1793
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,970
karma. I thought I did a good
job of getting the jingles. I

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01:44:26,970 --> 01:44:30,060
missed yours. Damien was I'll
look for that to JCD No, they're

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01:44:30,060 --> 01:44:30,510
there.

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01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:35,160
John C Dvorak: surplus to
requirements, surplus to

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01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:41,250
requirements. Brad Sherwood.
That all means but 34543. And he

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01:44:41,250 --> 01:44:48,450
said he said a dice card it says
Thanks from all of us. And on

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01:44:48,450 --> 01:44:51,330
the card he says we appreciate
it. I tam gentlemen, thank you

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01:44:51,330 --> 01:44:56,910
for what you do because of your
hard work. Your listeners are

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01:44:56,940 --> 01:45:02,550
all better informed and
therefore smarter. Then the man

1802
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:07,740
quote unquote the man wants us
to be the man wants us to be

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01:45:07,740 --> 01:45:09,870
cheers surplus to requirements

1804
01:45:09,930 --> 01:45:13,530
Adam Curry: oh thank you very
much then we have oh by the way

1805
01:45:13,530 --> 01:45:18,390
I found a did find another cool
JCD jingle me you're likely

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01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:21,420
Unknown: heard that one in a
long time.

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01:45:23,190 --> 01:45:27,270
Adam Curry: Sir RJ grande point
A Manitoba California

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01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:33,900
330-330-3333 dot 33 is 461 dot
45 Scandinavian your choice and

1809
01:45:33,900 --> 01:45:39,360
which amount is credited? July
12 marks my 55th birthday I

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01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,710
request oh gee Sharpton super
clips are RJ of grand point

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01:45:43,710 --> 01:45:45,000
Manitoba Canada

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01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:51,840
Unknown: resist we much we must
fail all Jide about a shutdown

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01:45:51,870 --> 01:45:58,110
the tortoise in the race then co
author of Kubrick's YouTube lead

1814
01:45:58,110 --> 01:46:05,280
singer Bono Fran Drescher singer
noise Weaver Johanna Sanaya of

1815
01:46:05,310 --> 01:46:10,590
Rush Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh Rush
Limbaugh the show rush Lombard

1816
01:46:10,590 --> 01:46:15,270
hosts Supreme Court Justice
Sonia Santa Maya is Michael is

1817
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:22,230
Mike McCurry yesterday and Tony
and Tony Scalia Kim Kardashian

1818
01:46:22,290 --> 01:46:26,040
and the Republican candidates
both Kerry row and Ben Ghazi we

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01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:33,180
rank behind locked V la vita
first. Kazakhstan Kazakhstan,

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01:46:33,210 --> 01:46:39,030
two college students in Beijing
is getting lunch at Chipotle in

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01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:44,670
Iowa bein is appropriate. The
GOP Tax Day Giveaway to

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01:46:44,670 --> 01:46:50,460
millionaires, why was traffic
problems email sent the

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01:46:50,460 --> 01:46:56,250
environmental projection agency
and what's sequestration has

1824
01:46:56,250 --> 01:46:56,670
done

1825
01:46:57,150 --> 01:46:59,400
Adam Curry: and the trolls are
correcting me saying that

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01:46:59,460 --> 01:47:05,430
Manitoba is in California.
That's not true.

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01:47:06,090 --> 01:47:08,970
John C Dvorak: No, Manitoba It's
easy in grande Pointe Manitoba

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01:47:08,970 --> 01:47:12,060
Canada. Yeah. That's
interesting. Was says very

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01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:17,850
clearly on Yes. super clear. All
right. Stay gram Point. Point.

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01:47:18,030 --> 01:47:19,410
Point Manitoba. Juan.

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01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:24,510
Adam Curry: Ponte. Dues Paul.
You're up.

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01:47:25,230 --> 01:47:31,590
John C Dvorak: Oh, Chris pomos
is up. Me. Chris Thomas. Thomas.

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01:47:32,910 --> 01:47:36,660
He's in Thomas Burg, Ontario,
Canada. We have two Canadians in

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01:47:36,660 --> 01:47:42,000
a row. And he also came with the
same 33333 Now all he has to say

1835
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:49,650
is cheers, fellas. Christ. And
then in the parents is the word

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01:47:49,650 --> 01:47:50,460
creased.

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01:47:50,490 --> 01:47:51,990
Adam Curry: Do you not
understand that's a

1838
01:47:51,990 --> 01:47:56,490
pronunciation guide. His name
was creased. palmos creased.

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01:47:56,910 --> 01:47:58,800
Creek Rhesus.

1840
01:47:58,980 --> 01:48:02,700
John C Dvorak: Yes. No, it was
creased. So he's gonna start

1841
01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:03,450
over. Oh, please

1842
01:48:03,450 --> 01:48:04,800
Adam Curry: do take it out. All
right, cut

1843
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:10,170
John C Dvorak: it out. creased,
creased greased palmas and

1844
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:13,140
Thomas Berg, Ontario, Canada.
33333. Cheers.

1845
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:17,730
Adam Curry: All right, then.
Random Number theory. Third

1846
01:48:17,730 --> 01:48:21,900
Kansas avian in a row. Michel?
cartmill Westbank British

1847
01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:25,620
Columbia 333. Hey, John and
Adam. I'm a little late on this

1848
01:48:25,620 --> 01:48:28,740
year's annual donation but we've
been busy planning a move to

1849
01:48:28,740 --> 01:48:32,520
Saskatoon Saskatchewan from our
home in BC. Isn't that where all

1850
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:33,420
the money is? John?

1851
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:38,040
Unknown: Saskatchewan. Yeah. Oh,
they have money that oh, it's

1852
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:38,610
Alberta

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01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,640
Adam Curry: Oh, I decided I
needed to donate to ask for

1854
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:46,200
house selling buying and moving
karma. When I sat down to do so

1855
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:52,620
the clock red 333 It was a sign.
So here is said promised

1856
01:48:52,620 --> 01:48:58,680
donation with the amount 333 USD
it's 464 dot 36 and dollar EDS

1857
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,770
but it's just worth it. We value
the show greatly. So this is

1858
01:49:01,770 --> 01:49:05,940
what I'm talking about. The only
other thing I asked is for add

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01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:11,580
rial to be officially knighted
add rial that Adria Adria I

1860
01:49:11,580 --> 01:49:14,880
think Adrian, we had put his
knighthood into abeyance due to

1861
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,730
not having some kind of creative
name to dazzle the listeners

1862
01:49:17,730 --> 01:49:20,460
with but it's been over a year
and he hasn't picked one. So

1863
01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:24,030
I've decided to go with Sir
Adrian Knight of the free BSD if

1864
01:49:24,030 --> 01:49:26,880
he doesn't like it, he can
request to change himself. Thank

1865
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:30,060
you both for your courage.
Michelle and Adrian Cartmell and

1866
01:49:30,060 --> 01:49:32,160
fear is your karma for all that

1867
01:49:32,190 --> 01:49:33,870
Unknown: you've got karma.

1868
01:49:35,190 --> 01:49:37,590
John C Dvorak: Angel is a Linux
fan.

1869
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,380
Adam Curry: FreeBSD is not the
same as Linux.

1870
01:49:41,820 --> 01:49:43,350
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know it's
better.

1871
01:49:44,430 --> 01:49:49,140
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, okay. John
dvorak.org.

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01:49:50,190 --> 01:49:58,380
John C Dvorak: Tom, in Minot,
Minato KU, Tokyo, Japan, and

1873
01:49:58,380 --> 01:50:02,430
Erie. Another donation provided
The country even though pay

1874
01:50:02,430 --> 01:50:06,300
pelted This is a funny bit here.
Even though Pay Pal tells me I

1875
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:09,690
can't donate from Japan it
somehow let me go through with

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01:50:09,690 --> 01:50:10,740
333

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01:50:11,430 --> 01:50:12,600
Adam Curry: is must be the
number

1878
01:50:13,590 --> 01:50:17,250
John C Dvorak: 333 key is the
key and you're all in Tokyo play

1879
01:50:17,250 --> 01:50:19,890
you know the three three check
just a dude named been out here

1880
01:50:19,890 --> 01:50:23,520
for over 30 years working in the
financial sector. You guys are

1881
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:29,340
the best love to my gorgeous
wife and amazing daughter D

1882
01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:30,510
douching. Please.

1883
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,990
Unknown: You've been D deuced.

1884
01:50:35,190 --> 01:50:37,140
John C Dvorak: For all in
anything else. Sharpton you

1885
01:50:37,140 --> 01:50:39,720
heard a lot of Al Sharpton
earlier in regards to time

1886
01:50:44,250 --> 01:50:47,640
Unknown: the SPI CT karma

1887
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:53,370
Adam Curry: onward to Jack
Tinkler. Columbus, Georgia 333

1888
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,450
Dear best friends John and Adam
my second donation and I started

1889
01:50:57,450 --> 01:51:00,540
listening to no agenda after
Adams first Rogan visit

1890
01:51:00,870 --> 01:51:04,980
brilliant donation please send
karma my way with a biscuit for

1891
01:51:04,980 --> 01:51:08,820
my birthday. We got a biscuit
for your birthday always give me

1892
01:51:08,820 --> 01:51:12,930
a biscuit on my birthday. Oh
he's also like a Trump arouse.

1893
01:51:13,500 --> 01:51:18,600
Okay, can you see that juice? Oh
brother and a little girl yay.

1894
01:51:18,630 --> 01:51:19,710
We got all that for

1895
01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:22,230
Unknown: you. It was hard to get
it aroused and it is hard to get

1896
01:51:22,230 --> 01:51:24,120
it aroused but we got it arrest.

1897
01:51:24,150 --> 01:51:32,460
John C Dvorak: Oh my gosh. Can
you see that? Resting Harmar the

1898
01:51:32,460 --> 01:51:41,340
disgusting array of clips worse
coming. Li percuss L E IG H is a

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01:51:41,370 --> 01:51:47,700
female's name in Birmingham
West. Somewhere in UK in the UK.

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01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,870
Birmingham first apologies for
the last note I have nerve nerve

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01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:55,350
damage in one hand and I tried
to voice the text. And that was

1902
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:58,620
the result. Okay. I don't
remember there was probably we

1903
01:51:58,620 --> 01:52:03,270
don't have that note. So but
it's good to know Yeah, I think

1904
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:06,780
this donation gets me a title
which will be the hermit of the

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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:12,720
eight see Lee Crosby a man's
name and the title hermit of

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01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:18,180
that he is a sexual. Thanks for
giving some context to the

1907
01:52:18,180 --> 01:52:23,970
world. We try when I met you
want to know whether this is Lee

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01:52:23,970 --> 01:52:26,430
you as a female or a male Li.

1909
01:52:27,480 --> 01:52:29,880
Adam Curry: I don't know. But
Lee's getting guessing as

1910
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:32,220
John C Dvorak: a male because of
the nerve nerve damage to the

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01:52:32,250 --> 01:52:33,570
hand is the right hand.

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01:52:35,250 --> 01:52:37,020
Unknown: Okay, here we go.

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01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,250
Adam Curry: We'll see you on the
podium later. Lee. Thank you.

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01:52:41,340 --> 01:52:46,110
Sonya pain is in Paragon Indiana
to 4398 our first Associate

1915
01:52:46,110 --> 01:52:49,380
Executive Producer, and Sonia
has an even more disgusting

1916
01:52:49,380 --> 01:52:53,070
donation request. As it brings
out this is Sonia what Sonia

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01:52:53,070 --> 01:52:58,170
brings. Sonia brings me to
knighthood. Now must be a dame.

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01:52:58,350 --> 01:53:03,330
No. Please Knight me sir. Nasty
Nate protector of Morgan County

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01:53:03,330 --> 01:53:08,490
as it must have been his wife's
Pay Pal, I guess. Yeah, that's

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01:53:08,490 --> 01:53:12,000
gotta be it. Okay, so Nate. This
donation brings me a knighthood

1921
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:13,020
and celebrating my 30th

1922
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,720
John C Dvorak: birthday know
that your Pay Pal is being

1923
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:17,580
raided by Nate. She does

1924
01:53:17,580 --> 01:53:21,000
Adam Curry: now been listening
since 2012 and on a monthly

1925
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:24,780
donation since 2020 Thank you.
Please help me sir. Nasty Nate

1926
01:53:24,780 --> 01:53:27,810
protector of Morgan County
Indiana. Jingles smokin hot

1927
01:53:27,810 --> 01:53:31,620
wife. I'm going to come and 69
Dude. Oh yeah. Thanks for your

1928
01:53:31,620 --> 01:53:32,490
credit for your courage.

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01:53:42,030 --> 01:53:44,490
Unknown: 6969

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01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,840
John C Dvorak: What is wrong
with people? It's your tooth

1931
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:54,180
fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.
Hey guys. Thank you again for

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01:53:54,180 --> 01:53:57,300
the best podcast in the universe
have a couple of edibles the

1933
01:53:57,300 --> 01:54:02,130
other day and ended up
listening. It listening a recent

1934
01:54:02,130 --> 01:54:06,390
episode of Brett Weinstein's
podcast and necessary wisdom

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01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:10,410
she's had to be stoned. He was
discussing Atrazine and frogs,

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01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,260
which we talked about 10 years
ago.

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01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:15,810
Adam Curry: Well, Alex Jones
told us this turning the frogs

1938
01:54:15,810 --> 01:54:16,110
gay.

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01:54:17,190 --> 01:54:19,020
John C Dvorak: Well, he said it
was turning the frogs gay but

1940
01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:21,870
I'm the one who had the clips
from the professor at cow that

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01:54:21,870 --> 01:54:25,020
was disgusting. It was
discussing Atrazine in the water

1942
01:54:25,470 --> 01:54:30,030
and mentioned that possibility.
I think I figured people should

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01:54:30,030 --> 01:54:31,800
we should look those clips I
have.

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01:54:32,910 --> 01:54:35,100
Adam Curry: I have. So if I
think we're

1945
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:37,200
John C Dvorak: I figured that
the real reason they want us

1946
01:54:37,260 --> 01:54:41,460
feasting on insects, is
hypotheses of how carnivorous

1947
01:54:41,460 --> 01:54:45,750
frogs should be exposed to the
herbicide to the herbicide

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01:54:45,780 --> 01:54:51,750
atrazine, it was most likely due
to the nerd diet bugs. The bugs

1949
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:55,770
eat the poison plants we eat the
bugs and the little boy's Dick

1950
01:54:56,220 --> 01:55:03,540
start to fallen off. Yay. You A
game set match the lizard people

1951
01:55:03,540 --> 01:55:10,650
when he's still on animals. It
seems to me a man for jingles

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01:55:10,650 --> 01:55:15,630
gonna get an eye like bugs
Bouchy wheeze and Trump's Space

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01:55:15,630 --> 01:55:19,470
Force. Thanks, sir Tooth Fairy

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01:55:31,290 --> 01:55:34,560
Unknown: tastes like blue. It
was hard to get it aroused and

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01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:38,250
I was you. That was

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01:55:38,430 --> 01:55:42,990
Adam Curry: that's me. Face
forward. There we go. So many

1957
01:55:42,990 --> 01:55:49,920
Trump ISOs Dan during is in
eolia Missouri 207 10 Switcheroo

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:54,000
he says this will be credited to
my smokin hot fiance Jamie for

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01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:58,710
our anniversary on July 10.
Happy three years babe. I hit

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01:55:58,710 --> 01:56:01,470
her in the mouth on our first
date and she loved it. I knew

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01:56:01,470 --> 01:56:04,740
she was a keeper. Thank you for
your courage. Cheers from Dan.

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01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:09,210
You got it. Jamie is switcheroo
dude right here. Good to go.

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01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:10,260
Thank you so much.

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01:56:11,100 --> 01:56:14,940
John C Dvorak: Been meanwell
healing house counseling in

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01:56:14,940 --> 01:56:18,330
Kingsland, Georgia. Hello,
gentlemen. I'm a longtime

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01:56:18,330 --> 01:56:22,440
listener. First time donor $200.
My smokin hot husband, Kenan,

1967
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:28,290
Kenan, Kenan KNN hit me in the
mouth years ago. I need to call

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01:56:28,290 --> 01:56:34,650
him out as a douchebag. I'm a
non rapist therapist in Georgia.

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01:56:34,650 --> 01:56:38,040
I appreciate your deconstruction
of the trans Maoist movement

1970
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,700
I've been cleaning. I've been
cleaning long enough to remember

1971
01:56:41,700 --> 01:56:45,900
when we diagnose this as gender
dysphoria and help people learn

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01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:50,220
to live with those incongruence
sees, yeah, most children if

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01:56:50,220 --> 01:56:53,460
they go through normal puberty
would discover that they were

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,910
homosexual and then make
decisions on how to navigate

1975
01:56:56,910 --> 01:57:01,560
that sounds about right and when
it comes to the issue of gender

1976
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,830
dysphoria, the only way for a
therapist to get around losing

1977
01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:10,710
their license nowadays, if they
aren't affirming your practice

1978
01:57:10,710 --> 01:57:14,400
is to go into cash pay only for
services and screen out those

1979
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,340
they work with you go is this

1980
01:57:17,610 --> 01:57:19,860
Adam Curry: bad as a good tip
though, it's a good tip if you

1981
01:57:19,860 --> 01:57:23,640
want to save children instead of
sending them to the chop shop.

1982
01:57:25,110 --> 01:57:29,130
John C Dvorak: To the chop shop
shop. Sorry, I even came up with

1983
01:57:29,130 --> 01:57:34,350
that. Yeah. But it's a good show
title. Yeah, I've been able to

1984
01:57:34,350 --> 01:57:37,260
accept insurance but I
advertised my practice as a

1985
01:57:37,260 --> 01:57:40,830
Christian counseling practice.
This seems to naturally weed out

1986
01:57:40,830 --> 01:57:44,160
those looking only for
affirmation affirmation rather

1987
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:49,350
than having their thoughts or
feelings challenged. In

1988
01:57:49,350 --> 01:57:52,800
addition, I do not work with
children, which seems to be a

1989
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,430
protective barrier as well. That
makes sense. Thank you too, for

1990
01:57:56,430 --> 01:58:00,900
being a voice of reason. I look
forward to each podcast and she

1991
01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:04,770
is the healing house counselor
healing house counseling in

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01:58:04,770 --> 01:58:08,550
Kingsland, Georgia. No, we don't
know her name, but that's where

1993
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:10,350
she's spreading out. So

1994
01:58:10,980 --> 01:58:14,040
Adam Curry: our last one is you
kind of got to do the last one

1995
01:58:14,070 --> 01:58:15,720
because it's your gig. Oh,

1996
01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:18,720
John C Dvorak: yeah, the timing.
Because why am I doing it

1997
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,990
because it's Linda loop Adkins.
She's in Lakewood, Colorado.

1998
01:58:22,290 --> 01:58:27,060
Jobs karma for all you jobs
hunters out there. And for a

1999
01:58:27,060 --> 01:58:33,270
competitive edge Go to Image
makers inc.com. For all your

2000
01:58:33,270 --> 01:58:36,990
executive resume and job search
needs are just fine. Linda lapad

2001
01:58:36,990 --> 01:58:41,370
Can under the show's executive
producer list and run a search

2002
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:46,560
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs

2003
01:58:48,450 --> 01:58:53,580
Adam Curry: are my question. We
don't have that many blog posts

2004
01:58:53,580 --> 01:58:56,400
through these. Let me first
thank our executive and

2005
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:59,280
Associate Executive producers
that has anyone 200 and above or

2006
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,640
300 and above. These titles that
you just received are the real

2007
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,430
deal. You can use them anywhere
credits are recognized which

2008
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:09,720
includes IMDb almost 800,
executive or Associate Executive

2009
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,060
producers of the no agenda show
recognize there, put them on

2010
01:59:12,060 --> 01:59:15,960
your LinkedIn. Use them in your
your resume. I mean you and if

2011
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:19,230
anyone ever questions it, we'll
be happy to vouch for you. And

2012
01:59:19,230 --> 01:59:22,440
thank you, you execs and
associate execs for supporting

2013
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,360
the no agenda show. We
appreciate it.

2014
01:59:26,190 --> 01:59:29,940
John C Dvorak: And we do want to
thank our regular donors over 50

2015
01:59:29,940 --> 01:59:33,840
which includes George Daniel
George in Danbury, Connecticut

2016
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:39,480
with $100 a year er year by Ayar
should know how to pronounce

2017
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:45,330
that more in Illinois as a
donation, a birthday donation

2018
01:59:45,330 --> 01:59:49,080
for 100 with $100 attached bill
and Janet Webb in Gilbert,

2019
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:55,560
Arizona $100 within a nice
attached note, very pretty

2020
01:59:57,510 --> 02:00:01,230
somewhere. Oh, it's nice. Yeah.
Nice. No, thank you. Kevin

2021
02:00:01,230 --> 02:00:05,190
McLaughlin in Concord North
Carolina 808 He is our boobs man

2022
02:00:05,190 --> 02:00:08,430
and he's the only one today no,
but he's holding up the for the

2023
02:00:08,430 --> 02:00:15,900
boob fort. William Kidwell in
Dover, Delaware 7379 Dame trail

2024
02:00:15,900 --> 02:00:22,680
Boston Denver, Arizona with a
7011 cards he sent in with a

2025
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:30,570
birthday request. Just happy
birthday to me. Yay. Greg Milan

2026
02:00:30,570 --> 02:00:32,670
in net 10. Yeah,

2027
02:00:33,780 --> 02:00:36,930
Unknown: I haven't heard from
Milan is back. Oh, Greg, Ilan.

2028
02:00:38,220 --> 02:00:39,960
John C Dvorak: He had us into
notes and to make sure that we

2029
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:45,600
got out that Kyle hunt and he
came up with 6969. Dudes. Kyle

2030
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:51,570
Hendrickson in Carpentersville.
Illinois. 6933. He's the Scott

2031
02:00:51,690 --> 02:00:56,310
Horton investigator. No, all
right, Joseph Stegman and 1000.

2032
02:00:56,310 --> 02:00:59,670
Oaks, California. 66.
Christopher Christopher Dexter.

2033
02:00:59,970 --> 02:01:01,200
That the six seven another

2034
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,270
Adam Curry: name from the past
Christopher dektor.

2035
02:01:03,300 --> 02:01:05,910
John C Dvorak: I remember about
time he came back now. Sure egg

2036
02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:09,000
here. We know we've been missing
a number of people including our

2037
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:10,980
bottles rocket guys.

2038
02:01:11,250 --> 02:01:14,160
Adam Curry: Bottles. Yeah.
Donald.

2039
02:01:15,030 --> 02:01:17,550
John C Dvorak: Donald Donald. I
hoped I think he ran out of

2040
02:01:17,730 --> 02:01:20,310
letterhead. And that was the
end. I hope the Forever

2041
02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:25,590
chemicals didn't get him. Sure.
AIG ahead in Dayton, Ohio. 55

2042
02:01:25,590 --> 02:01:28,050
Canada's a switcheroo de
douching and some health cover

2043
02:01:28,050 --> 02:01:30,030
for my smokin hot wife PJ
golden.

2044
02:01:31,770 --> 02:01:33,900
Unknown: You You've been de
douche Tama

2045
02:01:33,900 --> 02:01:34,350
coming up.

2046
02:01:35,730 --> 02:01:39,330
John C Dvorak: Baron pink
Scorpio and Cumberland, Ontario,

2047
02:01:39,330 --> 02:01:40,140
Canada.

2048
02:01:42,210 --> 02:01:44,970
Adam Curry: This is a nice five.
I haven't listened in a while

2049
02:01:44,970 --> 02:01:48,810
but still checking periodically.
Last Sunday show was outstanding

2050
02:01:48,810 --> 02:01:52,680
and insightful. I was quickly
reminded of the value no agenda

2051
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:55,440
can bring. Thank you for your
courage. By the way. We got

2052
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:59,490
sabotaged to you. Did you notice
that we are at sabotaged. Tell

2053
02:01:59,490 --> 02:02:04,530
me. For a large number of
people. They only received about

2054
02:02:04,530 --> 02:02:08,280
an hour and five minutes of the
show. And in order to get the

2055
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:10,920
rest of the show. They had to
delete the episode and reload

2056
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:16,590
and it was across apps. It was
not at all consistent. I talked

2057
02:02:16,590 --> 02:02:20,910
to avoid zero. And he said and I
said did one of the servers get

2058
02:02:20,910 --> 02:02:24,180
a partial upload? He said no,
that's not possible. The

2059
02:02:24,180 --> 02:02:27,270
webserver doesn't even turn on
until it's fully uploaded and

2060
02:02:27,270 --> 02:02:33,360
it's a mystery. A mystery. I
call them I call sabotage.

2061
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:34,710
Right? You might

2062
02:02:34,710 --> 02:02:37,500
John C Dvorak: be right this
show is dense. Mimi says she had

2063
02:02:37,500 --> 02:02:46,350
to take a nap after the first
hour I gotta take a nap. It was

2064
02:02:46,350 --> 02:02:51,420
a dead show is loaded. Funny.
That showed it took her like a

2065
02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:54,510
long time to listen to and she
said it was it was dense from

2066
02:02:54,510 --> 02:02:59,760
beginning to end. Everything in
that show was it was compact. It

2067
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:04,590
was dense with information. We
gave it a B plus. And there was

2068
02:03:05,730 --> 02:03:08,730
there was it must have been
those little clips at the end

2069
02:03:08,730 --> 02:03:10,830
that we put I think they're RFK
Jr. Clips.

2070
02:03:11,700 --> 02:03:17,100
Adam Curry: And also it was RFK
RFK Jr. deconstruction the NPR

2071
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:18,540
ladies there was a lot in there

2072
02:03:18,570 --> 02:03:20,610
John C Dvorak: was a lot in
there in the part that was

2073
02:03:20,610 --> 02:03:23,310
missing. Yes. Oh yeah. Of
course. Of course. Of course.

2074
02:03:23,310 --> 02:03:23,400
There

2075
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:25,560
Adam Curry: was the part that
was missing. It's it's sabotage.

2076
02:03:26,340 --> 02:03:31,320
John C Dvorak: Interesting. Jean
cables in all Barry, New South

2077
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:35,010
Wales, Australia. $55
Christopher Jones and Paris.

2078
02:03:35,220 --> 02:03:45,360
Paris is in Paris, Texas, Paris,
Texas. 5150 To 151 Christine

2079
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,990
Heinz and Manchester New
Hampshire. That you want 23 Bob

2080
02:03:48,990 --> 02:03:54,030
Butler and coming Georgia 5069.
birthday with Christopher right

2081
02:03:54,030 --> 02:03:56,910
to Meijer in Green Bay,
Wisconsin go packers birthday

2082
02:03:56,910 --> 02:04:02,310
call for his wife coming up
Fifi. Margaretha II didn't hold

2083
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:05,910
up good to see her orange Vale,
California 50. And she's the

2084
02:04:05,910 --> 02:04:09,570
beginning of the $50 donors,
which I will list with name and

2085
02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:15,150
location, starting with her and
then Eric Drake and tweet field,

2086
02:04:15,330 --> 02:04:16,290
Indiana.

2087
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:19,680
Adam Curry: He's a first time
Rogan donation needs to deduce

2088
02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:25,830
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
All right.

2089
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,900
John C Dvorak: Cory Cunningham
in Warrenton, Virginia

2090
02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:33,540
Unknown: you get Gavin Thank you
Miss Gavin Gavin McGoldrick

2091
02:04:33,540 --> 02:04:35,250
Gavin MC Goldrick.

2092
02:04:36,210 --> 02:04:41,310
John C Dvorak: In San Francisco,
California, Tim Delvecchio in

2093
02:04:41,310 --> 02:04:45,750
Blandon Pennsylvania Andrew
reso. in Mineola, New York,

2094
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:54,060
Michael window in or Windell in
Matawan, New Jersey. Gary Mau in

2095
02:04:54,060 --> 02:04:59,550
nada, Maoist M. Au in Woodland
Hills, California Stephen King

2096
02:04:59,820 --> 02:05:03,600
in bucks elder South Dakota,
Dame Patricia Worthington in

2097
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:11,250
Miami, Florida. Real deals now
in San Antonio, Texas. Brendan's

2098
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,670
of Ross or Brandon in Port
orchard Washington. Alex

2099
02:05:14,670 --> 02:05:19,140
Stilinski in Denver, Colorado.
And last on our list in

2100
02:05:19,140 --> 02:05:26,760
Nashville, Tennessee exists.
Jared Yao, Yao Wei Wu ah, yo, I

2101
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:29,670
don't know how to pronounce that
name. No, I like I like what you

2102
02:05:29,670 --> 02:05:33,030
did. And I want to thank all
these people for making show

2103
02:05:33,390 --> 02:05:36,510
1570 to the reality that it is

2104
02:05:36,540 --> 02:05:40,050
Adam Curry: and thank you
everyone who came in under $50

2105
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:44,490
We never read a name there.
That's for 100% anonymity. Also

2106
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,590
many people on some
subscriptions you might want to

2107
02:05:46,590 --> 02:05:50,070
check them people I've seen this
is Biden omics for you I've seen

2108
02:05:50,070 --> 02:05:53,850
some pay pals like Sorry, there
was not enough money to make

2109
02:05:53,850 --> 02:05:55,740
your automatic donation

2110
02:05:56,490 --> 02:05:58,710
John C Dvorak: and you get
kicked off you don't get a

2111
02:05:58,710 --> 02:05:59,490
check. Yeah,

2112
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:02,940
Adam Curry: and you don't even
know. So that's that's the paper

2113
02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:06,780
you should check what it is. But
thank you is all appreciated

2114
02:06:06,780 --> 02:06:09,240
thank you for returning the
value of makes us feel good and

2115
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,630
makes us feel loved. It makes us
feel wanted and it makes us want

2116
02:06:12,630 --> 02:06:15,720
to do more great shows for you.
So again, thank you for

2117
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:21,630
producing episode 67 and zero no
agenda our formula is this. We

2118
02:06:21,630 --> 02:06:23,940
go out we get people in the
mouth

2119
02:06:36,420 --> 02:06:41,550
for those who needed some goat
karma, you've got karma

2120
02:06:49,980 --> 02:06:53,550
and here is your last your last
your list. It was named trail

2121
02:06:53,550 --> 02:06:57,750
ball celebrate yesterday on July
11. Also yesterday she did not

2122
02:06:57,750 --> 02:07:06,330
want to put herself on the list.
James along with Tina curry, my

2123
02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:09,990
wife the keeper Happy Birthday
to Roger McGuane he celebrates

2124
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:15,600
today sir RJ turns 55 turn 55 on
the 12 yard more turn 38 on the

2125
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:18,510
12 Christopher Wright Meyer
wishes his wife Heather Fifi

2126
02:07:18,510 --> 02:07:23,850
right Meyer a happy birthday for
today's sir Nasty Nate turns 35

2127
02:07:24,030 --> 02:07:28,740
and Jack Tinkler. Happy birthday
to a smokin hot friend Allison

2128
02:07:28,740 --> 02:07:31,230
happy birthday from everybody
here the best podcast in the

2129
02:07:31,230 --> 02:07:38,430
universe. Hey what you screwed
up what did I do?

2130
02:07:38,850 --> 02:07:41,850
John C Dvorak: You said
yesterday was Jays and Tina's

2131
02:07:41,850 --> 02:07:43,260
Berto was the 11th

2132
02:07:43,290 --> 02:07:44,040
Adam Curry: I'm sorry.

2133
02:07:45,660 --> 02:07:49,800
Unknown: Happy birthday to Jay
and Tina two days ago

2134
02:07:57,810 --> 02:08:01,290
Adam Curry: don't want to be
known douchebag in fact,

2135
02:08:01,860 --> 02:08:05,970
birthday me out of sin upped the
ante once again and makes a

2136
02:08:05,970 --> 02:08:09,210
divide counters we're very happy
to have her here. They me Alison

2137
02:08:09,210 --> 02:08:12,000
Thank you very much. She's
adorable. You think she's very

2138
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:17,520
very cool. We have C three three
nights. Although we don't know

2139
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:20,520
if Sonia is actually becoming a
night and night we think is

2140
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:25,920
probably just Nate using sanyes
Pay Pal. Regardless the feeling

2141
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:30,120
or money, the Trident the
Trident is out Detroit There you

2142
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:30,930
go beautiful

2143
02:08:34,980 --> 02:08:35,910
Unknown: card Mel

2144
02:08:37,230 --> 02:08:41,820
Adam Curry: bleeper percuss and
all of you have achieved a

2145
02:08:41,820 --> 02:08:45,120
knighthood status here at the no
agenda show at the roundtable

2146
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:47,910
we're happy to have here and I'm
very proud to pronounce the k d

2147
02:08:47,910 --> 02:08:53,730
as Sir a dri l night of the
FreeBSD sir Herman of the HC and

2148
02:08:53,730 --> 02:08:57,540
Sir Nasty Nate for you. We've
got hookers and blow rent boys

2149
02:08:57,540 --> 02:09:00,270
and Chardonnay in case you
wanted it. We got some to keep

2150
02:09:00,270 --> 02:09:02,460
those into key Yeah, we got
harlots and how though we got

2151
02:09:02,460 --> 02:09:05,340
redheads and rise. We got
Rubenesque woman and rose a

2152
02:09:05,340 --> 02:09:08,040
geisha sakeI vodka, vanilla bong
hits and bourbon, sparkling

2153
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:11,280
cider and estore ginger ale and
dribbles, press Milka pablum and

2154
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:16,560
my Denmead that mountain of meat
is so popular and what you can

2155
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,290
do now is you can rush right
over to no agenda ring sock

2156
02:09:19,290 --> 02:09:22,230
calm. That is where you can see
these handsome night rings.

2157
02:09:22,230 --> 02:09:24,030
There's also Dame rings but you
won't get those you get the

2158
02:09:24,030 --> 02:09:27,720
night ring. Please give us an
address we can send it to you

2159
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:30,570
and along with your ring size, a
handy ring sizing chart there.

2160
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:33,090
If you're just envious and want
to go take a look at it. It's

2161
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:36,090
all over there. It is beautiful
to see these rings are great.

2162
02:09:36,090 --> 02:09:39,570
You'll be the envy of the next
meetup. No agenda knights

2163
02:09:39,570 --> 02:09:41,880
Welcome to the roundtable and
thank you for supporting the no

2164
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:52,260
agenda show. No one. Speaking of
the meetups we have we have a

2165
02:09:52,260 --> 02:09:55,050
meet up report from the Down
East down south meet up.

2166
02:09:55,440 --> 02:10:00,000
Unknown: So I'm Sven I'm here
with my wife Elise. Emily's we

2167
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,330
got 80% of our human resources
and I'm gonna pass it around.

2168
02:10:05,550 --> 02:10:09,660
John and Adam producers what's
going on? This is Alex. Aspiring

2169
02:10:09,660 --> 02:10:14,250
dude named Ben. Love you guys
love the show. Keep it up.

2170
02:10:14,790 --> 02:10:16,020
Misha, Colin and Emerson.

2171
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:21,720
And the morning this is Tom down
he's down south

2172
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:24,240
ITM Dane, Lydia.

2173
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:27,810
Thanks a lot guys. Keep up the
hard work and hopefully get some

2174
02:10:27,810 --> 02:10:30,000
more Mainers out here for the
next one. We're going to try

2175
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:34,470
again for August in Thompson. So
keep an eye on the website.

2176
02:10:34,590 --> 02:10:35,190
Thanks a lot.

2177
02:10:35,849 --> 02:10:38,249
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right.
Thank you for producing that

2178
02:10:38,249 --> 02:10:42,449
meetup report. Today we have the
so called meetup kicking off at

2179
02:10:42,449 --> 02:10:45,899
five o'clock Eastern nevermind
Awesome Bar as Cape Coral,

2180
02:10:45,899 --> 02:10:50,219
Florida. The North Dakota and
Norwegian crossover meetup

2181
02:10:50,249 --> 02:10:53,249
should be interesting. That's in
minnow, North Dakota, the

2182
02:10:53,249 --> 02:10:57,029
starving rooster. Today at six.
The Denver City Parks summer

2183
02:10:57,029 --> 02:11:00,959
slave brigade Hui hui at 630 in
Denver Park City, a Denver City

2184
02:11:00,959 --> 02:11:04,289
Park I'm sorry. Definitely join
that one if you can. On

2185
02:11:04,289 --> 02:11:07,709
Saturday, the Fort Worth monthly
meet up one o'clock Texas time

2186
02:11:07,739 --> 02:11:11,969
at flips Patio Grill in Fort
Worth. The North Carolina tree

2187
02:11:11,969 --> 02:11:14,579
had no agenda meet up two
o'clock in Kernersville

2188
02:11:14,669 --> 02:11:18,149
Kernersville Brewing Company in
Kernersville, North Carolina.

2189
02:11:18,449 --> 02:11:21,089
Also on Saturday, the shrunken
amygdala support group two

2190
02:11:21,089 --> 02:11:24,479
o'clock a task group corium
Cincinnati, Ohio, the central

2191
02:11:24,479 --> 02:11:28,499
Ohio meetup three o'clock in
India oak grill, as in Columbus,

2192
02:11:28,529 --> 02:11:30,719
the flight of the no agenda
meetup over there in Los

2193
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:34,259
Angeles, California. The proud
bird is where Leo Bravo will be

2194
02:11:34,259 --> 02:11:37,799
hosting you on Saturday. Also on
Saturday never again credit in

2195
02:11:37,799 --> 02:11:41,879
Suisse, Zurich, Switzerland bar
to fit us off. Hey, if you're in

2196
02:11:41,879 --> 02:11:44,519
Switzerland, if you're a banker,
or if you're a former banker go

2197
02:11:44,519 --> 02:11:47,909
to the never again credit in
Swiss six o'clock Berlin

2198
02:11:47,909 --> 02:11:51,149
Amsterdam, Paris time Bartlett
filo Sophia Zurich, Switzerland.

2199
02:11:51,629 --> 02:11:56,939
We are truly international.
Miami beach south point Point

2200
02:11:56,999 --> 02:12:03,209
Park, South Point Park Miami on
Saturday 7pm And the next show

2201
02:12:03,209 --> 02:12:08,129
day seven sixteenths Tucson Wild
West Side meet up one o'clock at

2202
02:12:08,129 --> 02:12:12,359
Whiskey roads in Tucson, Arizona
and hunters deviated septum

2203
02:12:12,389 --> 02:12:18,509
Memorial Miller's ale Braille
house Mount Laurel Township

2204
02:12:18,509 --> 02:12:21,629
South New Jersey, of course, is
Jersey jersey. I understand

2205
02:12:21,899 --> 02:12:26,429
there's plenty more meetups to
attend. I mean, we have many we

2206
02:12:26,429 --> 02:12:30,719
have one coming up on August 26,
in Vilnius, Lithuania. How about

2207
02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:34,679
that a little late for the NATO
conference, but if you miss it

2208
02:12:34,679 --> 02:12:37,859
by a month or so there's tons of
no agenda meet up. This is where

2209
02:12:37,859 --> 02:12:40,949
you find your community. This is
where anybody can attend.

2210
02:12:41,669 --> 02:12:44,999
Everybody will get along with
you. You'll get along with

2211
02:12:44,999 --> 02:12:47,219
everybody else because you have
one thing in common. It's your

2212
02:12:47,219 --> 02:12:50,939
own community in the days ahead
in the months ahead with Biden

2213
02:12:50,939 --> 02:12:54,329
nomics Biden inflation, you want
to have people you can rely on

2214
02:12:54,329 --> 02:12:56,819
it's the connection that gives
you protection no agenda

2215
02:12:56,819 --> 02:12:59,909
meetups, if you can't find one
start one yourself.

2216
02:13:01,980 --> 02:13:08,520
Unknown: You want to go hang out
with Dyson days you'd

2217
02:13:09,900 --> 02:13:11,070
be triggered

2218
02:13:13,230 --> 02:13:15,960
you want to be where everybody
feels

2219
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:23,010
Adam Curry: the same? Like a
body like a big ass Potty. Potty

2220
02:13:23,010 --> 02:13:26,310
potty potty. I have a number of
ISOs actually today

2221
02:13:26,339 --> 02:13:29,129
John C Dvorak: oh good because I
only have to play mine for

2222
02:13:29,669 --> 02:13:33,569
Adam Curry: a second. Okay, yes.
All right. What are your

2223
02:13:33,990 --> 02:13:36,780
John C Dvorak: somebody with I
think a kind of a Cockney accent

2224
02:13:36,780 --> 02:13:44,220
saying 100% 100% Australian
100% 100% That's not bad. Have

2225
02:13:44,220 --> 02:13:55,140
you seen 10%? Yes. And then the
other one is what's the other I

2226
02:13:55,140 --> 02:13:56,040
saw? Interesting.

2227
02:13:56,070 --> 02:13:56,820
Unknown: It's what it's called.

2228
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,790
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this was
just somebody saying it's kind

2229
02:13:59,790 --> 02:14:04,560
of interesting. Kinda interest
kind of not interesting. Yeah.

2230
02:14:05,190 --> 02:14:08,130
Alright, proceed proceed. It was
100% Here's

2231
02:14:08,130 --> 02:14:09,390
Adam Curry: some choices she
came

2232
02:14:09,390 --> 02:14:11,160
Unknown: in or hot and bothered

2233
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:14,550
Adam Curry: I don't know why
just like Amy Goodman saying

2234
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:19,320
that. I have this one. grateful.
Grateful for your time.

2235
02:14:19,349 --> 02:14:21,719
John C Dvorak: Thank you.
grateful for your time. I liked

2236
02:14:21,719 --> 02:14:22,079
that one.

2237
02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:25,560
Adam Curry: You liked that one?
Good. Let me see. Well, that's

2238
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:29,340
interesting. I also have 100 ISO
100% I went on to present a

2239
02:14:29,340 --> 02:14:34,380
great I don't like that one.
This one truth must be spoken.

2240
02:14:34,620 --> 02:14:38,280
No, I think I think this one is
the one I liked the best man.

2241
02:14:38,460 --> 02:14:42,540
This is not what I thought was
gonna happen. That's not that

2242
02:14:42,540 --> 02:14:47,190
was not my final one. I had a
different one. This is weird.

2243
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:50,520
John C Dvorak: You got a good
one there. You may have saved

2244
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:52,650
the other one because the
grateful for your time I thought

2245
02:14:52,650 --> 02:14:58,320
it was a nice. It was sharp
sounding. It was clear. Yeah,

2246
02:14:58,320 --> 02:14:59,010
it's been muddy.

2247
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:03,210
Adam Curry: I had a really funny
one. Now I'm pissed. I caught a

2248
02:15:03,210 --> 02:15:04,470
John C Dvorak: fish the other
day.

2249
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:10,230
Adam Curry: A huge Hold on a
second. What? What happened? Let

2250
02:15:10,230 --> 02:15:14,520
me just say something I this is
this this oh, here it is. I knew

2251
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:19,110
it. I knew it. Please remain
seated for the family photo Come

2252
02:15:19,110 --> 02:15:26,700
on. I knew you'd write. I knew
it was worth finding. I knew it.

2253
02:15:26,700 --> 02:15:31,740
I knew it. I knew it. Please
remain seated beauty family

2254
02:15:31,740 --> 02:15:32,580
photo.

2255
02:15:33,330 --> 02:15:38,670
John C Dvorak: Definitely one of
the top of the year. Yeah. So we

2256
02:15:38,670 --> 02:15:41,790
say you mentioned you mentioned
Vilnius. So let's play. No,

2257
02:15:41,790 --> 02:15:45,240
yeah. So we'll track down what
was going on there. This

2258
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:47,970
Adam Curry: was the NATO I have
this succinct break

2259
02:15:47,970 --> 02:15:50,640
John C Dvorak: down. You can
follow that beautiful. This is

2260
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:55,410
like the kind of a just a
generalized discussion from NTD.

2261
02:15:56,700 --> 02:15:59,550
Adam Curry: What is it I'm
looking for? Oh, here nice to

2262
02:15:59,580 --> 02:16:01,650
meet ya. Oh, hold on a second.

2263
02:16:01,889 --> 02:16:04,709
Unknown: People who get their
news from Chinese religious

2264
02:16:04,709 --> 02:16:05,369
calls

2265
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:08,850
as the NATO Summit is underway
with a whole host of issues on

2266
02:16:08,850 --> 02:16:12,450
the table. We turn now to NTDs
Iris Tao, who's tracking the

2267
02:16:12,450 --> 02:16:15,000
meeting on the ground from
Vilnius, Lithuania

2268
02:16:15,030 --> 02:16:18,810
as NATO leaders gathered here in
Vilnius, Lithuania, membership

2269
02:16:18,810 --> 02:16:21,750
to the key Alliance dominates
discussions at the annual

2270
02:16:21,750 --> 02:16:25,020
summit, President Biden today
held a one on one meeting with

2271
02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:28,560
the President of Turkey, who on
the eve of this summit and clear

2272
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:30,720
the path for Sweden to join
NATO.

2273
02:16:31,050 --> 02:16:35,100
This summit is affirming our
commitment to NATO offense,

2274
02:16:35,370 --> 02:16:40,440
close allies in NATO, and hope
we can make it even stronger. So

2275
02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:40,890
welcome.

2276
02:16:41,700 --> 02:16:44,430
The meeting also comes as a
White House's warning announced

2277
02:16:44,430 --> 02:16:48,480
that it will move forward with F
16 cells to Turkey, saying that

2278
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:49,050
a move

2279
02:16:49,439 --> 02:16:53,009
that this is in our national
interest. It's in the interest

2280
02:16:53,009 --> 02:16:55,259
of NATO that Turkey get that
capability.

2281
02:16:55,469 --> 02:16:58,649
And another major topic here
that's at the top of the agenda

2282
02:16:58,739 --> 02:17:02,849
is Ukraine's are first to try to
join NATO. But that push seems

2283
02:17:02,849 --> 02:17:06,089
to be stalled. A summit
communique agreed on Tuesday

2284
02:17:06,089 --> 02:17:10,199
pledges to extend an invitation
for Ukraine to join when quote,

2285
02:17:10,289 --> 02:17:14,369
allies agree and conditions are
met, adding that the alliance

2286
02:17:14,369 --> 02:17:17,699
will support Ukraine and making
reforms on its path towards

2287
02:17:17,699 --> 02:17:22,049
future membership by Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky.

2288
02:17:22,109 --> 02:17:25,169
said in a tweet today that quote
certain wording as being

2289
02:17:25,169 --> 02:17:29,339
discussed without Ukraine,
adding that is unprecedented and

2290
02:17:29,339 --> 02:17:32,789
absurd that there's no clear
timeline for Ukraine to join.

2291
02:17:33,059 --> 02:17:35,939
But President Biden today said
that he stood with the NATO's

2292
02:17:35,939 --> 02:17:36,629
language.

2293
02:17:37,889 --> 02:17:43,469
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a meme
of Volodymyr Zelensky. At the

2294
02:17:43,499 --> 02:17:47,519
family photo event, I guess, at
NATO, and everybody's, you know,

2295
02:17:47,519 --> 02:17:51,419
dressed up and their evening
gowns and they're all taught the

2296
02:17:51,419 --> 02:17:55,739
hilt Yeah. And he's just there
like, like, a little boy lost

2297
02:17:55,739 --> 02:17:58,829
with his with his green army
fatigues on or whatever, that's

2298
02:17:59,219 --> 02:18:03,239
your choice of clothing very,
completely wrong. But you know

2299
02:18:03,239 --> 02:18:06,179
that he's an actor, and the
central casting only

2300
02:18:06,359 --> 02:18:08,009
John C Dvorak: tells him what to
do. somebody's telling him what

2301
02:18:08,009 --> 02:18:12,029
to do. And he's doing it. Yeah,
right. You have Biden saying

2302
02:18:12,029 --> 02:18:15,809
something here on NATO, you
might want to play it is from

2303
02:18:15,809 --> 02:18:19,769
the event and I have to say
there's most of his terrible I

2304
02:18:19,769 --> 02:18:21,059
think I clean this one up.

2305
02:18:21,179 --> 02:18:25,559
Unknown: We agree on the
language that we've proposed. Do

2306
02:18:25,559 --> 02:18:30,899
you propose to relative to the
future of Ukraine being and when

2307
02:18:30,899 --> 02:18:36,509
you join, they don't and we're
looking for continued to unite.

2308
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,390
Adam Curry: NATO. So did they
clap for that? Did they? Oh,

2309
02:18:39,390 --> 02:18:41,460
very good. Very good. Very good.
God

2310
02:18:41,460 --> 02:18:42,600
John C Dvorak: clap for
everything.

2311
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:45,599
Adam Curry: This so stupid. The
man is toast. Although, you

2312
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:48,569
know, the reports that Biden
yells at everybody behind the

2313
02:18:48,569 --> 02:18:51,089
scenes getting out there. It's
pretty interesting, which I

2314
02:18:51,089 --> 02:18:56,819
think is plan. Thesis. Yeah, but
I think it's just planted. I

2315
02:18:56,819 --> 02:19:00,509
have a CBS report about NATO.
Thanks, Lithuania

2316
02:19:00,540 --> 02:19:04,230
Unknown: dozens of world leaders
in town but only one got a

2317
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:09,330
reception like this all the love
didn't Wow.

2318
02:19:09,330 --> 02:19:10,920
Did you hear that? Was that you?

2319
02:19:12,690 --> 02:19:13,800
Adam Curry: Know, someone one

2320
02:19:14,910 --> 02:19:20,220
Unknown: got a reception like
this. And yet overwhelmed do not

2321
02:19:20,220 --> 02:19:23,640
make up for the one thing
Ukraine's leader really wants

2322
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:28,230
membership in the Alliance
meeting right down the road, not

2323
02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:33,930
on dice Neato. Give Ukraine
security he pleaded Ukraine will

2324
02:19:33,930 --> 02:19:38,760
make NATO stronger. NATO leaders
did offer a consolation prize

2325
02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:43,140
today that they build as a major
breakthrough. Ukraine's future

2326
02:19:43,170 --> 02:19:47,370
is in NATO they announced but
only after the nation makes

2327
02:19:47,400 --> 02:19:52,710
democratic and security sector
reforms. This is a big step

2328
02:19:52,770 --> 02:19:57,120
Solinsky called it absurd to
place vague new conditions on

2329
02:19:57,120 --> 02:20:02,580
Ukraine without setting a
membership time. table. But some

2330
02:20:02,610 --> 02:20:06,600
NATO Allies worry that could
draw them into direct

2331
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:10,290
confrontation with Russia. How
soon would you like to see

2332
02:20:10,290 --> 02:20:11,880
Ukraine become a member of NATO?

2333
02:20:11,940 --> 02:20:14,310
John C Dvorak: I can't put a
timetable on it for you. NATO

2334
02:20:14,310 --> 02:20:17,490
Unknown: countries are making
other promises. France is

2335
02:20:17,490 --> 02:20:21,900
offering long range missiles,
Germany 65 tanks and armored

2336
02:20:21,900 --> 02:20:22,410
vehicles.

2337
02:20:22,620 --> 02:20:26,040
Adam Curry: Sounds like McCrone
got the memo. Oh, give me some.

2338
02:20:26,580 --> 02:20:26,820
Some.

2339
02:20:27,780 --> 02:20:30,210
John C Dvorak: They actually do
these missiles or underwear

2340
02:20:30,210 --> 02:20:33,480
according to the defense one
newsletter. Yeah, and they have

2341
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:37,020
a range of 250 kilometers, which
is not quite enough to hit

2342
02:20:37,020 --> 02:20:37,860
Moscow.

2343
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:40,770
Adam Curry: But But France is
participating.

2344
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:43,230
John C Dvorak: But now they're
participating with these long

2345
02:20:43,230 --> 02:20:45,090
range missiles, which means
they're going to use these

2346
02:20:45,090 --> 02:20:46,110
things. They're pretty big.

2347
02:20:47,520 --> 02:20:51,180
Adam Curry: Do not do that. For
me. I am participating or giving

2348
02:20:51,180 --> 02:20:53,640
you long range missiles,
missiles, I

2349
02:20:53,640 --> 02:20:55,560
John C Dvorak: gotta use it to
probably bomb the shit out of

2350
02:20:55,560 --> 02:20:57,990
Crimea. For you. NATO countries

2351
02:20:58,020 --> 02:21:01,140
Unknown: are making other
promises. France is offering

2352
02:21:01,140 --> 02:21:06,210
long range missiles, Germany 65
tanks and armored vehicles, and

2353
02:21:06,210 --> 02:21:10,470
11 nations will start training
Ukrainian pilots to fly F

2354
02:21:10,470 --> 02:21:14,070
sixteens. How long is that
training gonna take? Pentagon?

2355
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:16,260
Undersecretary Collin calm.

2356
02:21:16,410 --> 02:21:19,980
We're talking about you know,
somewhere between 618 months

2357
02:21:19,980 --> 02:21:22,860
depending on how well other
Ukrainian pilots do? Oh, yeah.

2358
02:21:25,140 --> 02:21:29,520
Not far to the east. Russia is
watching all of this unfold. The

2359
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:32,610
Russian spokesperson saying
today that a new agreement to

2360
02:21:32,610 --> 02:21:37,500
allow Sweden to join NATO is
clearly negative for Russia. He

2361
02:21:37,500 --> 02:21:41,400
vowed countermeasures, though he
didn't specify what those might

2362
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:41,940
be Nora.

2363
02:21:43,530 --> 02:21:47,550
Adam Curry: So this is a big
circle jerk sales conference.

2364
02:21:47,550 --> 02:21:51,450
Basically, they don't want these
guys NATO they don't want the

2365
02:21:51,450 --> 02:21:54,600
war to stop. They want the day
bad. Give away all your old

2366
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:57,690
crap. Got some old missiles,
send them over there. We'll bet

2367
02:21:57,720 --> 02:22:00,270
we're gonna take care of take
your people's money, build some

2368
02:22:00,270 --> 02:22:00,900
new ones.

2369
02:22:01,260 --> 02:22:06,000
John C Dvorak: There was some
tweet that's been mummified. Or

2370
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:09,510
some comment that was meme of
fighting going around that shows

2371
02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:13,770
that one of the generals of one
of the NATO generals saying that

2372
02:22:14,010 --> 02:22:17,160
this is what turning into one of
the greatest testing grounds for

2373
02:22:17,160 --> 02:22:20,550
weaponry. No, yeah. That we
could ever hope for. Yeah, it's

2374
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:24,870
Adam Curry: the best ever. Best
Ever. There was a very funny

2375
02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:32,040
moment at the State Department.
Spokes hole, Matthew Miller was

2376
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:37,440
so anxious and so just anxious
to get the truth out that he let

2377
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:40,650
it slip out twice, even though
he was corrected two things.

2378
02:22:40,650 --> 02:22:43,020
Unknown: I will say. With
respect to your first question.

2379
02:22:43,020 --> 02:22:45,720
We believe the war has been a
strategic failure for Ukraine.

2380
02:22:46,170 --> 02:22:50,370
The Secretary spoke to this in a
speech he gave in Helsinki. Last

2381
02:22:50,370 --> 02:22:55,560
month I believe it was because
I'm sorry, excuse me a strategic

2382
02:22:55,560 --> 02:23:01,530
failure for Ukraine. Thank you
for the question. Which is I

2383
02:23:01,530 --> 02:23:04,050
need more than one correct
correction today. So this is the

2384
02:23:04,050 --> 02:23:06,420
first time at the podium for a
week I'm a little raw. I'm

2385
02:23:06,420 --> 02:23:11,190
apparently a little rusty. I
never expected you guys to see

2386
02:23:11,190 --> 02:23:14,550
the high ground. I'm a little
rusty, I guess.

2387
02:23:15,180 --> 02:23:16,980
Adam Curry: You couldn't really
hear but Matt Lee and they're

2388
02:23:16,980 --> 02:23:19,170
saying Well, I never thought
nobody expected you to go all

2389
02:23:19,170 --> 02:23:24,660
the way to the truth. So twice
he says strategic failure for

2390
02:23:24,660 --> 02:23:27,720
Ukraine. Truth wants to come out
obviously boots on the ground

2391
02:23:27,720 --> 02:23:35,940
report regarding the dud rates
of the cluster bombs. I strapped

2392
02:23:35,970 --> 02:23:38,700
munitions on aircraft in the
military. Here's what I've been

2393
02:23:38,700 --> 02:23:41,160
told about American dud rates,
our rates of failure are

2394
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:44,460
actually much higher than other
countries. The reason is all the

2395
02:23:44,460 --> 02:23:47,880
safety mechanisms to prevent the
Oort ordinance by the way is not

2396
02:23:47,880 --> 02:23:51,420
ordinance it's ordinance from
blowing up on the flight line.

2397
02:23:51,450 --> 02:23:54,300
Our ordinance has many fail
safes that prevent premature

2398
02:23:54,300 --> 02:23:58,230
explosion. Some use radar or
altimeters to determine if they

2399
02:23:58,230 --> 02:24:01,170
are in freefall other use
mechanical devices to determine

2400
02:24:01,170 --> 02:24:04,740
spin or acceleration, most have
more than one mechanism that

2401
02:24:04,740 --> 02:24:08,430
must be triggered to go boom, in
many cases ordinance does not go

2402
02:24:08,430 --> 02:24:13,590
off because they are designed to
failsafe make sense. Makes a

2403
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:16,140
John C Dvorak: lot of sense is
that is the way we operate and

2404
02:24:16,140 --> 02:24:19,710
so do we have more duds than
probably the Russians who are

2405
02:24:19,710 --> 02:24:21,870
blowing up themselves? I'm sure.

2406
02:24:22,289 --> 02:24:26,579
Adam Curry: So on friends 24
Douchebag. Doug came in to

2407
02:24:26,579 --> 02:24:31,289
explain as to splain why it's
okay for it. Yes. Why it's okay

2408
02:24:31,289 --> 02:24:37,949
for us to be, you know,
basically giving cluster bombs

2409
02:24:37,949 --> 02:24:42,359
cluster munitions to Ukraine.
And he does a pretty good job of

2410
02:24:42,359 --> 02:24:45,989
trying to explain why it's okay
when we do it, and actually

2411
02:24:46,859 --> 02:24:51,179
listening to this. I think I
know why we're really sending

2412
02:24:51,179 --> 02:24:52,919
those cluster bombs over there.
Listen,

2413
02:24:53,099 --> 02:24:56,699
Unknown: yeah, well, first of
all, you're right. 123 countries

2414
02:24:56,729 --> 02:25:00,449
have signed on to and now 15
year old convention banning

2415
02:25:00,449 --> 02:25:03,599
cluster munitions. And it's kind
of outdated. It did so because

2416
02:25:03,719 --> 02:25:06,929
these aren't just any weapons,
they're bombs that break into

2417
02:25:06,929 --> 02:25:10,109
small bomblets dispersed over a
wide area of the battlefield.

2418
02:25:10,289 --> 02:25:13,769
And also clearly in areas where
civilians after the war will be

2419
02:25:13,769 --> 02:25:16,139
walking around, and they tend to
linger there and they could

2420
02:25:16,139 --> 02:25:19,709
explode years later, they can
mean grievously harm and kill

2421
02:25:19,799 --> 02:25:22,679
civilians, which is why they
have raised such ferocious

2422
02:25:22,679 --> 02:25:25,559
objections from humanitarians
from human rights groups and

2423
02:25:25,559 --> 02:25:26,729
just ordinary people.

2424
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:29,190
Adam Curry: The criticisms
ordinary people don't want to

2425
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:30,480
get blowed up against them

2426
02:25:30,510 --> 02:25:34,380
Unknown: in a nutshell is look
just because Grata is accused of

2427
02:25:34,380 --> 02:25:38,730
atrocities, such as rape, such
as torture, such as executing

2428
02:25:38,730 --> 02:25:43,050
civilians, among other war
crimes doesn't mean that Ukraine

2429
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:46,260
should stoop to the same level
that there should be some this

2430
02:25:46,260 --> 02:25:50,520
issue of unjust war that there
is a moral ground is a benefit

2431
02:25:50,550 --> 02:25:53,160
to retaining that moral high
ground, which you will

2432
02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:57,150
completely be deprived if you
start doing what your enemy

2433
02:25:57,150 --> 02:25:59,970
does, and using cluster
munitions. So yes, has Russia

2434
02:25:59,970 --> 02:26:02,640
been accused of using these
massively since the beginning of

2435
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:05,820
the war cluster bombs are
accused of using them

2436
02:26:05,820 --> 02:26:08,850
indiscriminately in civilian
heavily populated civilian

2437
02:26:08,850 --> 02:26:12,660
areas? Yes, as well. Should does
Ukraine say it won't be doing

2438
02:26:12,660 --> 02:26:12,930
that?

2439
02:26:13,260 --> 02:26:16,050
Adam Curry: Have you seen any
reports of Russia using cluster

2440
02:26:16,050 --> 02:26:18,960
bombs in civilian areas during
the Ukraine war?

2441
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:24,120
John C Dvorak: Have the Ukraine?
Have you seen any phone videos

2442
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:27,300
of these bombs going off or
anywhere nearby or anything

2443
02:26:27,300 --> 02:26:30,990
from? No, I have not. Neither
have I? Yes,

2444
02:26:30,990 --> 02:26:33,300
Unknown: it does say that they
say there'll be concentrating on

2445
02:26:33,300 --> 02:26:37,050
areas Russian occupied territory
with our troops, concentrated

2446
02:26:37,050 --> 02:26:41,340
troop for nations to flush them
out of dug in trenches. Now

2447
02:26:41,370 --> 02:26:45,510
moving on all of those arguments
aside, what the allies are

2448
02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:48,990
saying. And two thirds of NATO
allies have signed on to this

2449
02:26:48,990 --> 02:26:52,710
convention or basically no take
Spain, it says no to cluster

2450
02:26:52,710 --> 02:26:56,610
munitions. Yes, to Ukraine's
legitimate defense. Now,

2451
02:26:56,610 --> 02:27:00,000
Ukraine, as you would surmise,
will say that this is part of

2452
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:03,240
our legitimate defense. But
other countries Germany is

2453
02:27:03,240 --> 02:27:06,120
taking a stance right now they
do not use or produced cluster

2454
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:09,060
munitions, they will not ship
and supply others with cluster

2455
02:27:09,060 --> 02:27:12,510
munitions. At the same time, its
president said in the past

2456
02:27:12,510 --> 02:27:15,150
couple of days, it's not going
to block the US decision. It

2457
02:27:15,150 --> 02:27:18,720
can't block the US now the UK is
this was

2458
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:20,820
Adam Curry: interesting. This
actually happened during NATO,

2459
02:27:20,820 --> 02:27:25,110
there was an open Hot Mic hot
mic. And I think was the UK

2460
02:27:25,110 --> 02:27:29,040
Defence Minister said hey, we're
not going to act as Amazon to

2461
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:31,020
deliver America's cluster bombs,

2462
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:33,840
Unknown: taking a different
position, basically, user

2463
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:37,020
produced and it is not going to
ship and it hasn't said anything

2464
02:27:37,020 --> 02:27:39,990
about where it stands. With
really respect to this US

2465
02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:45,900
decision. Canada did set against
it a lot of other allies. So

2466
02:27:45,930 --> 02:27:48,600
there are a host of countries
including I believe, Poland and

2467
02:27:48,600 --> 02:27:51,060
Lithuania who never signed on to
the convention. These are the

2468
02:27:51,060 --> 02:27:53,970
countries in the frontlines of
Russia have seen Russia's

2469
02:27:53,970 --> 02:27:57,450
aggression, they are more
inclined to give the nod to the

2470
02:27:57,450 --> 02:28:01,560
US does not cluster munitions.
But it clearly has caused a

2471
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:05,100
split among allies among this
broader philosophical debate,

2472
02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:08,490
the moral, the ethical issues,
the question of what isn't just

2473
02:28:08,490 --> 02:28:12,270
war, is there? Is there such a
thing as one side being more

2474
02:28:12,270 --> 02:28:15,870
justified in using cluster
munitions than another side if

2475
02:28:15,870 --> 02:28:18,060
they're using the two different
purposes?

2476
02:28:18,990 --> 02:28:22,350
Adam Curry: Here's my analysis
of douchebag. Doug, these

2477
02:28:22,350 --> 02:28:28,350
cluster munitions are being used
in one particular area, which is

2478
02:28:28,350 --> 02:28:36,120
a swath swath of land, which I
believe will be the new DMZ, the

2479
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:41,100
demilitarized zone, you won't be
able to walk there, you'll get

2480
02:28:41,100 --> 02:28:45,750
blown up because of our stupid
cluster bombs. And this will be

2481
02:28:45,780 --> 02:28:49,680
part of the solution. Okay,
Russia, you're here. Ukraine.

2482
02:28:49,680 --> 02:28:53,580
You're over there. This is the
DMZ. What do you think?

2483
02:28:54,810 --> 02:28:59,490
John C Dvorak: Interesting idea.
Russians have planted mines all

2484
02:28:59,490 --> 02:29:01,080
over it. Probably the same area?

2485
02:29:01,710 --> 02:29:04,020
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, no. But
Ukraine, no Ukraine already

2486
02:29:04,020 --> 02:29:06,000
mined there. They've already
mined that area.

2487
02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:08,280
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So maybe
it's maybe they are going to

2488
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:09,840
create some sort of a dead zone.

2489
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:14,520
Adam Curry: So there was a
report which came out in Reuters

2490
02:29:14,520 --> 02:29:20,220
yesterday. That kind of gave
gave a headline which a lot of

2491
02:29:20,220 --> 02:29:25,050
people are seeing as a as a as a
fail for the West. As UN

2492
02:29:25,050 --> 02:29:29,100
Secretary General Antonio
Guterres has proposed to Russian

2493
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:33,000
President Vladimir Putin, that
he extended deal to allow the

2494
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:38,400
safe Black Sea export of grain
from Ukraine in return for

2495
02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:42,120
connecting a subsidiary of
Russia's agricultural bank back

2496
02:29:42,120 --> 02:29:46,710
up to the Swift international
payment system. So interesting.

2497
02:29:46,740 --> 02:29:54,900
So the so this grain deal ends,
I think, to Monday, and it's a

2498
02:29:54,900 --> 02:29:58,230
real problem. If you look at
this reports coming from Poland,

2499
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:02,250
because you know, Poland is now
just is getting crap grain than

2500
02:30:02,250 --> 02:30:07,890
wheat or whatever it is crap and
and dogs and cats are dying in

2501
02:30:07,890 --> 02:30:13,680
like massive numbers because of
just the shit this that's being

2502
02:30:13,680 --> 02:30:19,380
put into food there yeah yeah
there's reports of dogs and cats

2503
02:30:19,380 --> 02:30:22,290
in Poland dying and apparently
is because they feeding the crap

2504
02:30:22,290 --> 02:30:26,670
grain to the to the pigs in the
in the chickens that then is put

2505
02:30:26,670 --> 02:30:30,330
into dog and cat food and is
what it's what I'm hearing. But

2506
02:30:30,330 --> 02:30:34,230
anyway back to the Swift thing.
So so this is now kind of being

2507
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:39,150
shoved Well, you know they
failed with with the, with this

2508
02:30:39,150 --> 02:30:45,270
new deal that the gore terrace
is is suggesting. But really

2509
02:30:45,270 --> 02:30:49,140
it's much worse than that.
Because this was just one of the

2510
02:30:49,140 --> 02:30:56,550
many demands that Russia had
previously be and what the main

2511
02:30:56,550 --> 02:31:04,230
thing they wanted is here it is.
They want the pipeline the

2512
02:31:04,260 --> 02:31:09,090
ammonia pipeline to be
reinstated to be repaired. This

2513
02:31:09,090 --> 02:31:12,150
is really about the ammonia pipe
and remember there was a little

2514
02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:15,090
story that yeah, the

2515
02:31:15,090 --> 02:31:17,100
John C Dvorak: ammonia pipeline
going from where to where

2516
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:23,670
Adam Curry: was second I have it
here somewhere. Where's the I

2517
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:31,410
thought it was here. Shoot Hold
on a second. Oh, no, I can't

2518
02:31:31,410 --> 02:31:36,870
find it. Why can't find it was
one it was like one of these

2519
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:40,830
men. Oh, here it is on several
demands. I'm sorry. Here we go.

2520
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:49,050
The Black Sea grain initiative.
Oh, crikey. Sorry. Just like I'm

2521
02:31:49,050 --> 02:31:54,030
failing. I'm failing like a mofo
here people. Oh, now it has now

2522
02:31:54,030 --> 02:31:59,100
I can't get over Ah, I don't
have the answer for your job.

2523
02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:03,810
It's a I had it. And I don't
have it anymore. But the ammonia

2524
02:32:03,810 --> 02:32:07,620
pipeline is apparently is what
this really is about. And

2525
02:32:07,620 --> 02:32:11,580
everybody needs that. The
ammonia is and maybe you could

2526
02:32:11,580 --> 02:32:13,380
be able to tell us more about
that. But the ammonia is

2527
02:32:13,380 --> 02:32:17,010
incredibly important. We need to
make and fertilize. Yeah,

2528
02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:21,420
exactly. Which is if you go back
to some of the original problems

2529
02:32:21,420 --> 02:32:24,570
with Russia, it was all about we
had a fertilizer shortage.

2530
02:32:24,570 --> 02:32:27,990
Remember, the end of COVID whole
thing about it. We are

2531
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:28,830
misdirections has

2532
02:32:28,830 --> 02:32:31,170
John C Dvorak: control of the
group certain grain that

2533
02:32:31,170 --> 02:32:35,910
controls of Black Sea export
control of their grain, Ukraine

2534
02:32:35,910 --> 02:32:38,070
grain and all the fertilizer.

2535
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:42,660
Adam Curry: And so this is not
helping Africa, nations in

2536
02:32:42,660 --> 02:32:43,350
Africa.

2537
02:32:43,770 --> 02:32:45,630
John C Dvorak: They're not
having any fun with it.

2538
02:32:46,110 --> 02:32:49,920
Adam Curry: They're screwed. So
I don't know. So part of this

2539
02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:52,860
reconnection to Swift that was
just one of the many demands.

2540
02:32:53,580 --> 02:32:56,880
But the main thing was we need
this. We need this pipeline

2541
02:32:56,880 --> 02:33:01,920
restored. So I'm still trying to
get to that page, but I'm going

2542
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:07,650
to archive.org and is trying to
parse the page. It's never gonna

2543
02:33:07,650 --> 02:33:14,370
work. So there's a lot more
going on. It seems like like

2544
02:33:14,370 --> 02:33:18,660
Russia has the upper hand on a
lot of this stuff. And the Swift

2545
02:33:18,660 --> 02:33:21,510
reconnection thing that's pretty
interesting, and it will be

2546
02:33:22,230 --> 02:33:24,780
John C Dvorak: less not hasn't
been played up at all.

2547
02:33:24,810 --> 02:33:28,320
Adam Curry: JP Morgan Chase will
start processing some Russian

2548
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:31,380
Grain Export payments with
reassurances from the US

2549
02:33:31,380 --> 02:33:33,420
government. Well, how about
that?

2550
02:33:33,960 --> 02:33:36,750
John C Dvorak: What kind of what
kind of a sanction is this,

2551
02:33:36,780 --> 02:33:41,460
right? That's bullcrap. No,
Russia has an upper hand in a

2552
02:33:41,460 --> 02:33:45,270
lot just because of the the
nature of that country being

2553
02:33:45,270 --> 02:33:49,560
what it is, has always had an
upper hand in a lot of things so

2554
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:51,750
that's all I want to do is be
left alone.

2555
02:33:52,470 --> 02:33:54,600
Adam Curry: So here's your
Russia's demands. I got it.

2556
02:33:54,600 --> 02:33:58,680
Finally, this is from June 16.
So this is this has nothing to

2557
02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:01,950
month ago. Yeah. But But now
they say oh, we were connected

2558
02:34:01,950 --> 02:34:06,930
reconnected but so they they're
folding for one. The brushes

2559
02:34:06,930 --> 02:34:11,550
demands in March, they actually
demanded. They said Moscow wants

2560
02:34:11,550 --> 02:34:14,370
the Russian agriculture bank
reconnected to the Swift payment

2561
02:34:14,370 --> 02:34:19,140
system. So they're buckling
because Russia demanded it. The

2562
02:34:19,140 --> 02:34:23,370
United Nations is we're okay.
resumption of its black sea

2563
02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:27,990
ammonia exports via a pipeline
from Russia's Togliatti to

2564
02:34:27,990 --> 02:34:33,000
Ukraine's PIF Denny port. The
pipeline, which pumped up to 2.5

2565
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:36,120
million tons of ammonia and
annually was shut down by the

2566
02:34:36,120 --> 02:34:41,550
war. In September, Reuters
reported that UN proposed the

2567
02:34:41,550 --> 02:34:45,720
Russian fertilizer producer girl
can sell us ammonia to us

2568
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:49,440
headquarter commodities trader
travaux once it reaches the

2569
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:51,810
Russia Ukraine border by the
pipeline, you see what these

2570
02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:56,100
eight holes were doing. You
gotta sell that to us. Oh my

2571
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:59,790
gosh, until the ammonia pipeline
has restarted Moscow said it

2572
02:34:59,790 --> 02:35:02,910
will limit the number of vessels
allowed to travel to the piff

2573
02:35:02,910 --> 02:35:06,780
Denny port under the Black Sea
grain deal. Un data shows no

2574
02:35:06,780 --> 02:35:11,160
ships have visited PIF Denny
port for more than a month. Last

2575
02:35:11,160 --> 02:35:14,400
week Russia accused that was
this is back in June. Ukrainian

2576
02:35:14,400 --> 02:35:17,250
forces are blowing up part of
the pipeline the world's longest

2577
02:35:17,250 --> 02:35:20,580
carrying ammonia and Ukraine's
Kharkiv region. The regional

2578
02:35:20,580 --> 02:35:23,490
Ukraine governor said Russia had
shelled the pipeline, because

2579
02:35:23,490 --> 02:35:26,610
that makes so much sense.
Neither side provided any

2580
02:35:26,640 --> 02:35:30,900
evidence. More than 400,000 tons
of Russian fertilizer was

2581
02:35:30,930 --> 02:35:34,200
initially stranded in European
Union ports after the war

2582
02:35:34,200 --> 02:35:37,080
started, the UN officials have
negotiated it's released for

2583
02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:41,670
export to Africa after Russia
said it would be donated. So so

2584
02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:49,980
be Russia has a lot of cards
here. A lot. And we're gonna go

2585
02:35:49,980 --> 02:35:53,790
pretty hungry. Well, maybe not
what lab meat will be okay,

2586
02:35:53,820 --> 02:35:58,680
John C Dvorak: yo, yo, let me
see. If you don't mind jumping

2587
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:04,110
to China and its influence in
Africa, and then now the more

2588
02:36:04,110 --> 02:36:11,400
latest efforts are in Latin
America. Mm hmm. I think we

2589
02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:12,540
should play these clips.

2590
02:36:12,570 --> 02:36:15,060
Unknown: Mark our shot guys.
Good to have you on the show.

2591
02:36:15,300 --> 02:36:18,420
China's rapidly expanding its
military and surveillance in

2592
02:36:19,500 --> 02:36:22,530
Latin America serves across
Latin America, including at a

2593
02:36:22,530 --> 02:36:26,460
strategic port in Argentina.
Could you lay out for us? What

2594
02:36:26,460 --> 02:36:29,700
is China doing to expand its
influence in the region,

2595
02:36:29,730 --> 02:36:33,210
we're also doing a lot.
Basically, over the last 20

2596
02:36:33,210 --> 02:36:37,320
years, they shifted to being
soft America's main commercial

2597
02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:41,430
partner, except for Mexico to
basically dominate the region,

2598
02:36:41,670 --> 02:36:45,120
economically. And one key thing
they have been doing here, which

2599
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:47,460
I think is of concern, is the
fact that they have been

2600
02:36:47,460 --> 02:36:51,270
expanding predatory loans. So
they have their infrastructure

2601
02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:54,540
Belt and Road project. They have
other infrastructure projects.

2602
02:36:54,750 --> 02:36:57,960
And what they do, according to a
study by widow and Mary

2603
02:36:58,050 --> 02:37:02,790
University, which was a by a lab
called Pay data, is that they

2604
02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:07,110
give very different loans than
what you might expect from other

2605
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:10,110
copies or from Western copies,
which they have a lot of strings

2606
02:37:10,110 --> 02:37:13,440
attached to them, which gives
them huge leverage now to

2607
02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:17,610
further their interests in any
other country. And in

2608
02:37:17,610 --> 02:37:20,820
specifically in Latin America.
They have been sponsoring their

2609
02:37:20,820 --> 02:37:24,930
water paratus they have a
military run space base in

2610
02:37:24,930 --> 02:37:28,980
Argentina. We're talking about
another spy base in Cuba, which

2611
02:37:28,980 --> 02:37:32,820
was recently on the news in the
US does a lot of stake for

2612
02:37:32,820 --> 02:37:37,170
Russia. Donald Trump don't trust
China, China is as Hoh, same

2613
02:37:37,170 --> 02:37:37,710
guy.

2614
02:37:39,330 --> 02:37:41,790
John C Dvorak: You know, the
funny thing is, is that they're

2615
02:37:41,790 --> 02:37:45,690
just using, as you remember a
decade ago, and we were kind of

2616
02:37:45,690 --> 02:37:51,360
harping on the on the book.
Confessions of an economic

2617
02:37:51,360 --> 02:37:57,780
hitman by Perkins the original,
the original. Yeah. It's just

2618
02:37:57,900 --> 02:37:59,280
using our tricks.

2619
02:37:59,670 --> 02:38:04,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Go
verbalised Go in rebuild. But

2620
02:38:04,320 --> 02:38:07,950
you don't like it. We'll send
the jackals in. That's all our

2621
02:38:07,950 --> 02:38:08,490
tricks.

2622
02:38:09,780 --> 02:38:10,740
John C Dvorak: Are to that I

2623
02:38:10,740 --> 02:38:12,720
Adam Curry: only have three.
This is what I don't understand.

2624
02:38:12,720 --> 02:38:13,170
I have oh,

2625
02:38:13,800 --> 02:38:16,290
John C Dvorak: yes, there is.
Part Two has been excised. And

2626
02:38:16,290 --> 02:38:16,920
part three,

2627
02:38:17,490 --> 02:38:20,070
Unknown: right now that US
Congress, I think Brazil, for

2628
02:38:20,070 --> 02:38:23,340
instance, my whole country, that
fourth largest food producer in

2629
02:38:23,340 --> 02:38:26,790
the world, and the breadbasket
of critical materials, which the

2630
02:38:26,790 --> 02:38:30,150
US needs to produce jets,
semiconductors and other

2631
02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:33,360
critical items. But the rest is
I think that poultry that was

2632
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:36,330
third of its economy, but in the
hands of shame, it's still

2633
02:38:36,330 --> 02:38:38,850
letting them do that. It's still
I think, this country where I am

2634
02:38:38,850 --> 02:38:43,980
right now. But for the last 20
years, the US has been lacking

2635
02:38:43,980 --> 02:38:47,790
China power to loan 10s of
billions of dollars to

2636
02:38:47,790 --> 02:38:53,790
Venezuela, which has enabled
them to feel the US was drugs,

2637
02:38:53,850 --> 02:38:56,190
but on purpose. This is not
about making money. This is stay

2638
02:38:56,190 --> 02:39:00,630
true and cartels really flooding
the US with drugs and purples as

2639
02:39:00,630 --> 02:39:04,110
the DOJ has stated when they
charge Nicolas Maduro, the

2640
02:39:04,110 --> 02:39:07,680
president of Venezuela, a narco
terrorism charge, it's for

2641
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:10,650
conspiracy to flood your assets.
Okay, now, who is enabling

2642
02:39:10,650 --> 02:39:14,640
office? It's the Chinese bonds.
So I think you are taking his

2643
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:18,240
word. But to be quite honest,
it's getting back to your

2644
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:21,030
question. I don't think there's
much to be done right now.

2645
02:39:21,030 --> 02:39:24,060
Because it's kind of going into
critical mass that the US needs

2646
02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:26,610
to start taking Latin American
more seriously. And taking

2647
02:39:26,610 --> 02:39:29,010
democracy in the southern
hemisphere more seriously.

2648
02:39:29,100 --> 02:39:31,230
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you, we
can't play these clips anymore.

2649
02:39:31,290 --> 02:39:34,290
If you're not reading along with
the words, it's almost

2650
02:39:34,290 --> 02:39:35,940
impossible to understand guys.

2651
02:39:35,970 --> 02:39:39,480
John C Dvorak: The guy is a bad
clip because, by the way, and it

2652
02:39:39,480 --> 02:39:41,910
was it is a better clip than it
was

2653
02:39:43,020 --> 02:39:44,730
Adam Curry: bollocks to Adobe.

2654
02:39:45,780 --> 02:39:48,510
John C Dvorak: But the problem
was with the guy's a fast

2655
02:39:48,510 --> 02:39:52,230
talker, and he's got a very
thick Portuguese accent, which

2656
02:39:52,230 --> 02:39:53,580
makes it very hard done.

2657
02:39:53,610 --> 02:39:57,240
Adam Curry: Yes. Bad combo.
Well, hold on. I have a China

2658
02:39:57,240 --> 02:39:59,160
clip, which is actually well,

2659
02:39:59,190 --> 02:40:01,410
Unknown: overnight micros Talk
revealed that a Chinese hacking

2660
02:40:01,410 --> 02:40:04,050
organization broke into the
email for 25 major

2661
02:40:04,050 --> 02:40:07,470
organizations, including
government agencies, Trevor also

2662
02:40:07,470 --> 02:40:08,850
is tracking the latest. Good
morning, Trevor.

2663
02:40:08,880 --> 02:40:10,890
Good morning. George is a very
alarming announcement from

2664
02:40:10,890 --> 02:40:13,440
Microsoft. They say this started
in May. And while they didn't

2665
02:40:13,440 --> 02:40:16,620
specify which organizations were
hit, they have revealed some of

2666
02:40:16,620 --> 02:40:19,740
them, as you say, are government
agencies. And Microsoft says the

2667
02:40:19,740 --> 02:40:23,700
group behind this is known as
Storm 0558. The company claims

2668
02:40:23,700 --> 02:40:27,270
this is a spy agency that's
based in China. And we're told

2669
02:40:27,270 --> 02:40:30,240
storm gain access to these
organizations emails by getting

2670
02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:33,090
into individual accounts. And
what that means is at this

2671
02:40:33,090 --> 02:40:36,330
point, it's not clear how much
data or information that we're

2672
02:40:36,330 --> 02:40:39,390
actually able to access that
Microsoft says the threat has

2673
02:40:39,390 --> 02:40:42,210
since been completely mitigated.
They've added new automated

2674
02:40:42,210 --> 02:40:45,000
systems to detect these kinds of
hacks. But they say cyber

2675
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:47,190
attacks are becoming much more
common and a lot more

2676
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:50,430
sophisticated in any individual
could be targeted.

2677
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:53,370
Adam Curry: Man, why are we
using? Why don't we use open

2678
02:40:53,370 --> 02:40:56,730
source stuff, but why are we
using Microsoft for all our

2679
02:40:56,760 --> 02:40:57,990
sensitive issue? Is

2680
02:40:57,990 --> 02:41:00,240
John C Dvorak: this are they
talking about outlook accounts?

2681
02:41:00,240 --> 02:41:04,050
Are they talking about the mail
servers that Microsoft Exchange

2682
02:41:04,050 --> 02:41:06,510
Server, you're talking about?
What are they talking about?

2683
02:41:06,930 --> 02:41:09,690
What are you talking about
exchange? Are they talking about

2684
02:41:09,690 --> 02:41:11,130
Outlook account? I have a

2685
02:41:11,130 --> 02:41:12,570
Adam Curry: longer clip if you
want.

2686
02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:14,220
John C Dvorak: Does it have it
in there?

2687
02:41:14,250 --> 02:41:16,620
Adam Curry: I'm not sure it's
from ABC it must be good.

2688
02:41:16,770 --> 02:41:19,470
Unknown: Overnight. NBC News
confirmed the Commerce

2689
02:41:19,470 --> 02:41:22,320
Department was also targeted
during a recent breach of

2690
02:41:22,320 --> 02:41:26,940
Microsoft Security linked to
hackers based in China. Say the

2691
02:41:26,940 --> 02:41:30,630
hackers targeted Commerce
Secretary Gina Raimondo emails

2692
02:41:30,660 --> 02:41:31,590
beginning in May,

2693
02:41:31,860 --> 02:41:35,490
Adam Curry: you can have her
she's using what for the yucks?

2694
02:41:35,970 --> 02:41:36,750
What they try

2695
02:41:38,010 --> 02:41:39,990
John C Dvorak: and remember what
she wrote yesterday.

2696
02:41:40,050 --> 02:41:43,710
Adam Curry: Bill was Bill Gates
was just there. Hey, gee, Hey,

2697
02:41:43,710 --> 02:41:47,010
baby, you want access to Gina
Ron Mundos. You met at

2698
02:41:48,930 --> 02:41:51,690
Unknown: the castle protected
for about a month the State

2699
02:41:51,690 --> 02:41:54,240
Department confirms it was
targeted,

2700
02:41:54,270 --> 02:41:58,620
Adam Curry: saying it's a month
a month. What is swift action,

2701
02:41:58,650 --> 02:42:01,800
Unknown: we took immediate steps
to secure our system. immediate

2702
02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:05,340
steps to notify Microsoft of the
event. The incident remains

2703
02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:08,310
under investigation. And we
continuously monitor our

2704
02:42:08,310 --> 02:42:10,500
networks and update our security
procedures. Sure

2705
02:42:10,530 --> 02:42:13,740
cyber breach started just before
Secretary of State Antony

2706
02:42:13,740 --> 02:42:17,460
Blinken traveled to China in
June. And while the US Commerce

2707
02:42:17,460 --> 02:42:20,490
Department has been imposing
sanctions on Beijing,

2708
02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:24,270
then they head over 30 days
before it was even reported, and

2709
02:42:24,270 --> 02:42:27,750
almost another 30 days before it
was fully mitigated. So this is

2710
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:30,480
a very long period of time to
gain access.

2711
02:42:30,510 --> 02:42:34,110
Sources say it appears likely
that the hackers got access to

2712
02:42:34,320 --> 02:42:37,020
high value class sources say

2713
02:42:37,620 --> 02:42:40,200
John C Dvorak: so they were
added and sources may be

2714
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:46,290
conservative codec for all
practical purposes for 60 days,

2715
02:42:46,320 --> 02:42:54,420
two months. Yes, worth of State
Department valuable emails, that

2716
02:42:54,420 --> 02:42:57,750
kind of stuff that WikiLeaks
would be loved to have stuff

2717
02:42:57,750 --> 02:42:58,890
that they used to

2718
02:42:58,920 --> 02:43:02,160
Adam Curry: Ukraine was suffered
a strategic loss because that's

2719
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:03,690
what the State Department
interest probably

2720
02:43:03,690 --> 02:43:07,530
John C Dvorak: sounded in there
about the Ukrainian war. This is

2721
02:43:07,530 --> 02:43:08,610
a disaster.

2722
02:43:08,670 --> 02:43:10,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's
just kind of played off. As you

2723
02:43:10,980 --> 02:43:13,680
know, hey, we we've alerted
Microsoft that their stuffs no

2724
02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:14,100
good

2725
02:43:14,130 --> 02:43:17,670
Unknown: provide information.
But the threat is growing. The

2726
02:43:17,670 --> 02:43:19,710
number of cyber attacks
affecting government

2727
02:43:19,710 --> 02:43:24,840
organizations Rose 95% In the
last half of 2022. Compared to

2728
02:43:24,840 --> 02:43:27,990
the previous year, stopping the
threat goes far beyond

2729
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:31,140
protecting passwords. Experts
say it requires spotting

2730
02:43:31,140 --> 02:43:33,510
suspicious activity ahead of
time,

2731
02:43:33,570 --> 02:43:36,210
artificial intelligence and
machine learning can do all

2732
02:43:36,210 --> 02:43:39,540
right now we go instead of
detecting in 30 days, we should

2733
02:43:39,540 --> 02:43:42,240
have detected in 30
milliseconds. And if we could do

2734
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:46,470
that, we have the ability to
stop these types of attacks.

2735
02:43:46,710 --> 02:43:50,970
Microsoft says email data from
25 organizations was exposed.

2736
02:43:51,150 --> 02:43:54,030
The Chinese government responded
to the reports overnight by

2737
02:43:54,030 --> 02:43:57,570
criticizing the US saying quote,
the US is the world's biggest

2738
02:43:57,570 --> 02:43:58,590
hacking empire.

2739
02:43:58,920 --> 02:44:00,420
Oh, yeah. Well, that's true.

2740
02:44:01,170 --> 02:44:03,630
John C Dvorak: But it's true.
But what's it got to do with

2741
02:44:03,630 --> 02:44:04,320
anything? That

2742
02:44:04,320 --> 02:44:07,500
Adam Curry: story, I think
somehow is related to this

2743
02:44:07,500 --> 02:44:08,250
story.

2744
02:44:08,280 --> 02:44:11,580
John C Dvorak: John Solomon, you
just broke news moments ago that

2745
02:44:11,580 --> 02:44:16,560
the Secret Service now is asking
to update lawmakers in a private

2746
02:44:16,560 --> 02:44:19,890
area tomorrow regarding the
cocaine and Joe Biden White

2747
02:44:19,890 --> 02:44:21,600
House. What does that mean? What
do you know,

2748
02:44:21,870 --> 02:44:23,790
Unknown: what signals there's
been a development in the

2749
02:44:23,790 --> 02:44:26,460
original timetable was for the
House Oversight Committee to be

2750
02:44:26,460 --> 02:44:30,120
briefed on the week of January
24. Today, they reached out to

2751
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:33,840
the chairman comer asked to move
that up till 10am tomorrow so

2752
02:44:33,840 --> 02:44:37,950
10am Tomorrow in a skiff that's
a intelligence briefing room a

2753
02:44:37,950 --> 02:44:41,370
secure room normally reserved
for classified information.

2754
02:44:41,610 --> 02:44:43,830
lawmakers who have the
appropriate clearance can go in

2755
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:47,160
and get a briefing on this. This
comes as we know that the Secret

2756
02:44:47,160 --> 02:44:50,700
Service was running fingerprints
and DNA analysis on the bag of

2757
02:44:50,700 --> 02:44:53,340
cocaine to see what evidence
they might be derived from it.

2758
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:56,340
Lawmakers are scrambling they're
going to show up tomorrow. It's

2759
02:44:56,340 --> 02:44:59,010
going to be a very big day, but
moving it up signals that

2760
02:44:59,010 --> 02:45:00,900
there's been some foreign Have a
development in the

2761
02:45:00,900 --> 02:45:01,650
investigation?

2762
02:45:01,740 --> 02:45:04,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, Skiff Hello?
Oh, it's got to be secret

2763
02:45:04,320 --> 02:45:06,840
because you know, otherwise
China might know immediately if

2764
02:45:06,840 --> 02:45:14,310
they emailed it around. This is
This is fun. Nothing is fun.

2765
02:45:14,340 --> 02:45:16,380
This is really fun. It's a fun.
It's a fun little

2766
02:45:16,410 --> 02:45:18,330
John C Dvorak: bag that China
says for talking about him. I

2767
02:45:18,330 --> 02:45:22,260
want to have a couple clips this
China influence in the USA, this

2768
02:45:22,260 --> 02:45:25,710
is a I have his name written
down swords doesn't really

2769
02:45:25,710 --> 02:45:28,680
matter what he says more than
what we is. And this is

2770
02:45:28,680 --> 02:45:29,460
interesting.

2771
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:33,690
Unknown: Well, the CCP the you
know, the under President Trump,

2772
02:45:33,690 --> 02:45:38,040
the FBI had a China project they
were they were going after

2773
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:41,940
Chinese actors in the United
States. They are actively

2774
02:45:41,940 --> 02:45:46,470
investigating them and their
links to, you know, to American

2775
02:45:46,470 --> 02:45:51,090
citizens, American legislators,
etc. Biden stopped that he

2776
02:45:51,090 --> 02:45:54,300
canceled there. Well, that
should be reinvent should be

2777
02:45:54,300 --> 02:45:56,160
reinstituted straightaway.

2778
02:45:58,050 --> 02:46:01,140
John C Dvorak: Heaven forbid we
stop the Chinese from taking

2779
02:46:01,140 --> 02:46:06,720
over the places. Now part two is
later in this discussion. And I

2780
02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:08,490
thought it was interesting
because the first thing that

2781
02:46:08,490 --> 02:46:12,510
comes to mind to me is Eric
Swalwell. Who is on the

2782
02:46:12,510 --> 02:46:15,840
Intelligence Committee Langfang
you know,

2783
02:46:15,840 --> 02:46:19,110
Unknown: loyalty owes should be
brought back and security

2784
02:46:19,110 --> 02:46:23,700
clearances should be massively
amped up that very superficial

2785
02:46:23,700 --> 02:46:28,260
right now, you know, no other
country it will Russia or China

2786
02:46:28,410 --> 02:46:33,990
would never allow anybody who
had a proud American record to

2787
02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:37,200
become the head of the KGB or
the Chinese intelligence

2788
02:46:37,200 --> 02:46:42,390
services. So so this is
America's number one problem

2789
02:46:42,420 --> 02:46:48,180
massively lacks internal
security, no loyalty oaths, no

2790
02:46:48,180 --> 02:46:51,810
background checks. There's no
security checks on senators or

2791
02:46:51,810 --> 02:46:55,230
congressmen for serving on
committees. I think that should

2792
02:46:55,230 --> 02:46:59,280
be another thing that should be
done. Anybody who wants to serve

2793
02:46:59,280 --> 02:47:02,250
on a sensitive committee, you
want to serve up serve on

2794
02:47:02,250 --> 02:47:07,560
Homeland Security, services,
intelligence, you should have a

2795
02:47:07,560 --> 02:47:10,440
background check. You should
have a clearance for that.

2796
02:47:10,650 --> 02:47:13,980
Currently, there are no
clearances for those positions.

2797
02:47:14,370 --> 02:47:18,420
You have to get a clearance to
work in CIA, but not to hit the

2798
02:47:18,450 --> 02:47:21,330
the Senate Intelligence
Committee, or the House

2799
02:47:21,330 --> 02:47:25,290
Intelligence Committee. That's a
massive loophole in the system

2800
02:47:25,470 --> 02:47:26,940
that has to be closed.

2801
02:47:27,029 --> 02:47:33,059
Oh, no, an outrage wall wells
wall. Man,

2802
02:47:33,330 --> 02:47:35,370
Adam Curry: all right, I need to
do a little big farm. It'll be

2803
02:47:35,370 --> 02:47:38,550
my last and you can wind it up
with whatever you have. Because

2804
02:47:38,550 --> 02:47:42,810
there's trouble in paradise. And
the story they in the UK they've

2805
02:47:42,810 --> 02:47:46,860
started to investigate this. Now
it's wafted over to the United

2806
02:47:46,860 --> 02:47:48,990
States we have problems

2807
02:47:49,020 --> 02:47:51,390
Unknown: a new investigation
this morning into the safety of

2808
02:47:51,390 --> 02:47:55,560
ozempic and other drugs.
Regulators in Europe are looking

2809
02:47:55,560 --> 02:47:59,430
into a possible link between the
drugs and suicidal thoughts

2810
02:47:59,430 --> 02:48:02,040
after three people who use the
drugs reported thoughts of

2811
02:48:02,040 --> 02:48:05,460
suicide and self harm go to any
company that makes the drug says

2812
02:48:05,490 --> 02:48:08,640
studies found no such connection
for people have turned to

2813
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:12,450
ozempic to lose weight, but it
was approved by the FDA to treat

2814
02:48:12,450 --> 02:48:13,230
diabetes.

2815
02:48:13,890 --> 02:48:17,430
Adam Curry: Now, before I played
the second clip, I want you to

2816
02:48:17,430 --> 02:48:21,810
know that Boris Johnson, former
Prime Minister of the United

2817
02:48:21,810 --> 02:48:26,010
Kingdom's has now become a
columnist for a leading

2818
02:48:26,010 --> 02:48:29,040
newspaper and see if I

2819
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:31,650
John C Dvorak: can get his
everybody's trying to get into

2820
02:48:31,650 --> 02:48:32,370
the act.

2821
02:48:32,640 --> 02:48:36,960
Adam Curry: And he reviewed
ozempic By taking it he thought

2822
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:40,500
that this would be the the
master drug for him this would

2823
02:48:40,500 --> 02:48:43,350
work perfectly, because you
know, he's fat.

2824
02:48:43,920 --> 02:48:46,260
John C Dvorak: And that guy, but
it looks like it looks like a

2825
02:48:46,260 --> 02:48:47,790
guy who knows how to be fat and

2826
02:48:47,790 --> 02:48:50,430
Adam Curry: he wrote a column
wonder drug I hoped would stop

2827
02:48:50,430 --> 02:48:54,630
my raves for cheddar and Cerrito
didn't work for me Daily Mail.

2828
02:48:55,230 --> 02:48:58,020
And here's the bit that I
thought was the best. So for

2829
02:48:58,020 --> 02:49:00,990
weeks, I jabbed my stomach and
for weeks it worked

2830
02:49:01,200 --> 02:49:03,870
effortlessly. I pushed aside the
puddings. And the second

2831
02:49:03,870 --> 02:49:07,980
helpings wasn't it amazing. I
said to myself, how how little

2832
02:49:07,980 --> 02:49:11,340
food you really need. I must
have been losing four or five

2833
02:49:11,340 --> 02:49:15,180
pounds a week, maybe more when
all at once it started to go

2834
02:49:15,180 --> 02:49:19,410
wrong. I don't know why exactly.
Maybe it was something to do

2835
02:49:19,410 --> 02:49:22,170
with constantly flying around
the world and changing time

2836
02:49:22,170 --> 02:49:25,800
zones. But I started to dread
the injections because they were

2837
02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:30,480
making me feel ill. One minute I
will be fine. The next minute I

2838
02:49:30,480 --> 02:49:33,240
will be talking to Ralph on the
big white phone.

2839
02:49:35,760 --> 02:49:38,880
John C Dvorak: Ralph, he's
talking about puking Yes,

2840
02:49:38,880 --> 02:49:41,820
Adam Curry: on the big white
foam and the big white phone of

2841
02:49:41,820 --> 02:49:46,440
a friend that heard that one in
decades. And I'm afraid that I

2842
02:49:46,440 --> 02:49:50,100
decided I couldn't go on. For
now I'm back to exercising

2843
02:49:50,100 --> 02:49:52,500
willpower but look at my
colleagues leaner but not

2844
02:49:52,500 --> 02:49:55,350
hungrier. And I hope that if
science can do it for them,

2845
02:49:55,350 --> 02:49:59,850
maybe one day it can help me and
everyone else. So just puking up

2846
02:49:59,850 --> 02:50:03,510
and There's a problem with
ozempic. And this problem of

2847
02:50:03,570 --> 02:50:07,470
suicidal thoughts, which if it
really was just three people who

2848
02:50:07,470 --> 02:50:10,710
reported Oh, I think I want to
kill myself. Would it be a big

2849
02:50:10,710 --> 02:50:14,310
story like that? No, I don't
think so. Time to bring in Dr.

2850
02:50:14,310 --> 02:50:18,420
Jen. Dr. Jen America saver
doctor is back as she's

2851
02:50:18,420 --> 02:50:20,520
America's favorite doctor. Just
so you know.

2852
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:23,910
Unknown: Dr. Jenn, America's
favorite doctor is back. And

2853
02:50:23,910 --> 02:50:27,330
we've talked a lot about ozempic
And then last drugs, but now

2854
02:50:27,330 --> 02:50:31,050
there's this concerning news The
EU is investigating after there

2855
02:50:31,050 --> 02:50:33,990
have been suicidal thoughts
reported on these medications.

2856
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:34,290
Yeah,

2857
02:50:34,290 --> 02:50:37,290
and so we want to do a deep dive
on this because of course, as

2858
02:50:37,290 --> 02:50:41,220
you said, this is such a popular
drug category, deep dive

2859
02:50:41,250 --> 02:50:45,090
worldwide, but here in the US as
well that this headline, listen

2860
02:50:45,090 --> 02:50:45,210
to

2861
02:50:45,210 --> 02:50:48,060
Adam Curry: this big pharma
prostitute. I'm sorry, I'm just

2862
02:50:48,060 --> 02:50:51,420
gonna say she is bought and paid
for is the right word. Dan,

2863
02:50:51,420 --> 02:50:55,740
thank you. Well, what was that
the wrong word? Yeah, horrible.

2864
02:50:56,310 --> 02:50:58,710
Unknown: Kind of getting a lot
of attention, in my opinion for

2865
02:50:58,710 --> 02:51:02,640
the wrong medical reasons. In
Europe in Iceland. There were

2866
02:51:02,640 --> 02:51:07,860
three reported cases of suicidal
thoughts in people taking

2867
02:51:08,010 --> 02:51:13,290
ozempic. So the EU is looking
into this. The drugmaker Novo

2868
02:51:13,290 --> 02:51:18,060
Nordisk is, of course, also
looking into brings up a bigger

2869
02:51:18,060 --> 02:51:21,540
issue of a term in medicine and
public health that we use called

2870
02:51:21,570 --> 02:51:23,640
background rate and background
incidence.

2871
02:51:23,640 --> 02:51:26,130
Adam Curry: So background rate
background incidents, this is

2872
02:51:26,130 --> 02:51:28,890
nothing to worry about. It's
background noise, you have

2873
02:51:28,890 --> 02:51:32,010
Unknown: to think of this as a
fraction, right? In the general

2874
02:51:32,010 --> 02:51:35,460
population. There's a background
rate of people, unfortunately,

2875
02:51:35,460 --> 02:51:38,550
every single day who have
suicidal thoughts, then there's

2876
02:51:38,550 --> 02:51:41,400
a background rate of people
taking these class of

2877
02:51:41,400 --> 02:51:45,690
medications, these GLP one
agonists, where they overlap, if

2878
02:51:45,690 --> 02:51:49,800
you think of like overlapping
circles, that's the area that's

2879
02:51:49,800 --> 02:51:52,200
of interest, right? We want to
know if it's not just an

2880
02:51:52,200 --> 02:51:56,460
observation or an observed
effect, but a cause and effect,

2881
02:51:56,460 --> 02:51:59,880
right, that the suicidal
thinking was actually caused by

2882
02:51:59,880 --> 02:52:03,210
these medications. Right now,
there's no evidence of that.

2883
02:52:03,210 --> 02:52:05,880
Because again, this is something
that occurs every single day.

2884
02:52:05,880 --> 02:52:08,430
But of course, with the
popularity of it, the more

2885
02:52:08,430 --> 02:52:12,390
people who take any drug, the
more even a rare risk of

2886
02:52:12,390 --> 02:52:14,700
something could be expected to
go up.

2887
02:52:14,850 --> 02:52:16,320
So is it reason to be concerned

2888
02:52:16,320 --> 02:52:18,210
because when I read the
headline, I was like, oh,

2889
02:52:18,210 --> 02:52:19,710
because everybody still don't
think

2890
02:52:19,710 --> 02:52:22,170
there's evidence right now that
there's reason to be concerned

2891
02:52:22,170 --> 02:52:25,470
for suicidal thinking of this
class of medication. But there

2892
02:52:25,470 --> 02:52:28,650
is always reason to be concerned
with the possibility of a rare

2893
02:52:29,760 --> 02:52:31,200
conversation about a Venn
diagram.

2894
02:52:34,470 --> 02:52:36,930
John C Dvorak: Nothing that you
layer off,

2895
02:52:37,920 --> 02:52:40,950
Adam Curry: it's all great to
worry about is background noise.

2896
02:52:40,980 --> 02:52:44,700
It's background rage. It's just,
I mean, of course, people take

2897
02:52:44,700 --> 02:52:46,950
our drugs that are already
suicidal from the other drugs

2898
02:52:46,950 --> 02:52:50,370
we're giving them. Hello. So
obviously suicidal

2899
02:52:50,370 --> 02:52:53,370
John C Dvorak: to take any of
them to begin with,

2900
02:52:53,400 --> 02:52:56,760
Adam Curry: Hey, we are
nominated for an award. Again,

2901
02:52:57,690 --> 02:53:03,840
again, when's the last time? Oh,
no. It if the American Liberty

2902
02:53:03,840 --> 02:53:08,820
awards. Okay, this is not just
some sub sub little podcast

2903
02:53:08,820 --> 02:53:13,140
award. These are broadcast
awards, who we are nominated in

2904
02:53:13,140 --> 02:53:15,780
the Best analyst broadcast
category. Well,

2905
02:53:15,780 --> 02:53:16,770
John C Dvorak: that's us. No, I

2906
02:53:16,770 --> 02:53:20,190
Adam Curry: thought so too.
We're up there with let's see.

2907
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:25,950
Jay Dyer. I have no idea. Gerald
Cilenti Mike Adams, the health

2908
02:53:25,950 --> 02:53:26,400
Ranger.

2909
02:53:27,120 --> 02:53:28,320
John C Dvorak: Mike Adams.

2910
02:53:28,410 --> 02:53:30,630
Adam Curry: He's a best
broadcast.

2911
02:53:30,810 --> 02:53:37,380
John C Dvorak: He's not a Pete
Santilli merch anybody that's a

2912
02:53:37,380 --> 02:53:38,010
competitor

2913
02:53:38,040 --> 02:53:42,030
Adam Curry: especially not Sarah
Gonzalez. Who's Oh, she's like

2914
02:53:42,030 --> 02:53:42,990
she's a blaze girl.

2915
02:53:43,440 --> 02:53:46,110
Unknown: A Blaze girl is grown
Charlie Robinson.

2916
02:53:46,140 --> 02:53:49,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, we we have a
shot we ever and what's

2917
02:53:49,020 --> 02:53:53,370
interesting. They don't say no,
they don't give the show names.

2918
02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:56,160
They give the people name. So it
would be an actual personal

2919
02:53:56,160 --> 02:54:00,090
award for you and for me as
people. They have my middle

2920
02:54:00,090 --> 02:54:05,400
initial they do Adam curry and
John J HNSI. J

2921
02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:08,190
John C Dvorak: Jhansi.

2922
02:54:08,340 --> 02:54:11,250
Adam Curry: John Cena this John
C. Dvorak. They did it properly,

2923
02:54:11,250 --> 02:54:12,060
which is nice.

2924
02:54:13,080 --> 02:54:16,860
John C Dvorak: So I got two
clips to get us out. Okay. And

2925
02:54:16,860 --> 02:54:19,200
that is since you were talking
about farm, I got farmer clips.

2926
02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:22,260
And this was going on in
Congress. I have an app some

2927
02:54:22,260 --> 02:54:26,040
more clips about. This has been
fun. This has been great. The

2928
02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:29,070
next show, but this is fun. And
there's a lot of funny stuff.

2929
02:54:29,370 --> 02:54:32,130
And this is the COVID they're
older investigating COVID

2930
02:54:32,130 --> 02:54:34,440
mainstream media doesn't want to
cover this but it's online. You

2931
02:54:34,440 --> 02:54:37,470
can get these some of these
clips. Yeah. And here's a COVID.

2932
02:54:37,470 --> 02:54:40,980
It's about COVID origins. And
there's some funny stuff coming

2933
02:54:40,980 --> 02:54:42,030
up and here's clip one.

2934
02:54:42,060 --> 02:54:44,580
Unknown: The House Select
Subcommittee on the corona virus

2935
02:54:44,580 --> 02:54:48,810
pandemic is looking closely at
the origins of the CCP virus.

2936
02:54:48,840 --> 02:54:51,060
Yeah, for this hearing they
brought in the office.

2937
02:54:52,170 --> 02:54:55,800
Adam Curry: What news outlet
says CCP virus? What is this?

2938
02:54:55,950 --> 02:54:57,840
John C Dvorak: Let me think it
couldn't

2939
02:54:57,840 --> 02:54:58,440
Adam Curry: be

2940
02:54:59,670 --> 02:55:03,840
Unknown: this C is in D. D is
the peer reviewed article, the

2941
02:55:03,840 --> 02:55:08,850
proximal origin of SARS cov. Two
published in March 2020. It said

2942
02:55:08,850 --> 02:55:12,330
the virus most likely occurred
naturally and did not come from

2943
02:55:12,330 --> 02:55:15,810
a lab. One of the things
lawmakers keyed in on was that

2944
02:55:15,810 --> 02:55:19,500
both authors actually supported
the lab leak theory. Shortly

2945
02:55:19,500 --> 02:55:22,800
before the draft was published,
Representative Nicole

2946
02:55:22,800 --> 02:55:24,630
Malliotakis said this,

2947
02:55:24,750 --> 02:55:29,220
Dr. Garry went so far as to say,
quote, I really can't think of a

2948
02:55:29,220 --> 02:55:33,090
plausible natural scenario when
you get from the bat virus or

2949
02:55:33,180 --> 02:55:37,050
one very similar to it. So
COVID-19, where you insert

2950
02:55:37,080 --> 02:55:41,760
exactly four amino acids, 12
nucleotides, and all have to be

2951
02:55:41,760 --> 02:55:46,920
added at the exact same time to
gain this function. I just can't

2952
02:55:46,920 --> 02:55:51,330
figure out how this gets
accomplished in nature, unquote.

2953
02:55:51,570 --> 02:55:55,410
So then, within a matter of
days, something changed. And

2954
02:55:55,410 --> 02:55:58,260
that's what this committee is
trying to get to the bottom of

2955
02:55:58,620 --> 02:56:02,340
Professor Robert Geary explained
how his view of the origin of

2956
02:56:02,340 --> 02:56:04,170
the virus changed during that
time.

2957
02:56:05,130 --> 02:56:10,740
The scientific literature, you
know, the publication of the

2958
02:56:10,770 --> 02:56:12,840
Pangolin genomic sequence

2959
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:15,750
exactly what my colleague Kara
brought up.

2960
02:56:15,810 --> 02:56:20,070
Yes, exactly. And it was a very
important piece of data, because

2961
02:56:20,310 --> 02:56:23,790
it showed that a lot of the
theories about you know, the

2962
02:56:23,790 --> 02:56:27,090
virus having been engineered or
put together in a laboratory

2963
02:56:27,090 --> 02:56:30,960
were not true, because here was
a virus in nature that had an

2964
02:56:30,990 --> 02:56:32,760
receptor binding domain with
exactly

2965
02:56:34,830 --> 02:56:38,580
Adam Curry: what a distraction
this interesting, but Okay, does

2966
02:56:38,580 --> 02:56:39,180
it get fun?

2967
02:56:40,260 --> 02:56:42,960
John C Dvorak: The next time I
have to eclipse the neck. The

2968
02:56:42,960 --> 02:56:47,640
point is, is that they were on
board of one theory. And then it

2969
02:56:47,640 --> 02:56:50,520
was like two days later, they
changed their complete opinion

2970
02:56:50,520 --> 02:56:54,840
based on one, some discussion
about pangolin de bas, and

2971
02:56:54,840 --> 02:56:58,770
Penguin. The Penguin was my
favorite poor venue pangolin.

2972
02:56:59,070 --> 02:57:02,610
And they still have I don't know
if they brought this up, but I

2973
02:57:02,610 --> 02:57:07,170
didn't listen to the whole
hearing what you think that day

2974
02:57:07,170 --> 02:57:11,190
to ask have you? Have you caught
the virus in the wild? Actually,

2975
02:57:11,190 --> 02:57:13,650
in an animal they dancers? No,
no,

2976
02:57:13,650 --> 02:57:16,140
Adam Curry: don't don't even
Don't even start with that. Stop

2977
02:57:16,140 --> 02:57:17,790
with your logic. And
Congressman,

2978
02:57:17,790 --> 02:57:20,760
Unknown: Dr. Rich McCormick, a
physician, which disputed the

2979
02:57:20,760 --> 02:57:24,270
theory that the virus came
naturally from a pangolin or any

2980
02:57:24,270 --> 02:57:24,960
other animal,

2981
02:57:25,200 --> 02:57:27,600
if it exists in the species, it
has to be able to propagate and

2982
02:57:27,600 --> 02:57:30,780
continue. It doesn't just go
away. It's not just found in the

2983
02:57:30,780 --> 02:57:33,630
same proximity of a species but
inside the species with

2984
02:57:33,750 --> 02:57:37,380
antibodies and resistance. To
say that it's just because it's

2985
02:57:37,440 --> 02:57:40,770
in the same area somewhere that
a dog was found, or a cat was

2986
02:57:40,770 --> 02:57:43,620
found, or a pig, or whatever you
want to say, is for me, just

2987
02:57:43,620 --> 02:57:46,740
like smear some COVID on this
wouldn't say, look, it came from

2988
02:57:46,740 --> 02:57:50,220
this would to give our people
who are watching this where

2989
02:57:50,250 --> 02:57:53,160
maybe not medical background to
understand that's obviously

2990
02:57:53,160 --> 02:57:57,000
impossible. Just like it's
impossible to have a virus that

2991
02:57:57,000 --> 02:58:00,120
exists inside of an animal
species go away, or not have any

2992
02:58:00,120 --> 02:58:02,670
sort of immune response or any
propagation, if that's where it

2993
02:58:02,670 --> 02:58:03,660
came from the beginning.

2994
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:07,110
And Representative Rodney
Jackson, also a physician said

2995
02:58:07,110 --> 02:58:07,860
that you gathered

2996
02:58:07,860 --> 02:58:10,470
every bit of this new additional
information, which we don't know

2997
02:58:10,470 --> 02:58:13,080
exactly what it was or where it
came from. You completely

2998
02:58:13,080 --> 02:58:15,990
changed your hypothesis, you
collaborated with your co

2999
02:58:15,990 --> 02:58:19,140
authors, and you wrote the
proximal origins paper all in

3000
02:58:19,140 --> 02:58:21,690
that period of time. I just want
to know my time's up. But I just

3001
02:58:21,690 --> 02:58:24,090
want you to know that sounds
completely ridiculous to the

3002
02:58:24,090 --> 02:58:25,500
American people. And it's

3003
02:58:25,710 --> 02:58:29,730
the FBI and the Department of
Energy have both said that

3004
02:58:29,730 --> 02:58:32,220
COVID-19 likely came from a lab.

3005
02:58:34,110 --> 02:58:37,680
Adam Curry: Well, man, it's
taken me back years and years

3006
02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:40,680
ago, that's the first thing we
said is bullcrap. This, we know

3007
02:58:40,680 --> 02:58:42,150
this. Well, we wasn't

3008
02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:45,240
John C Dvorak: nice. It was the
French Nobel Prize writing.

3009
02:58:45,240 --> 02:58:45,480
Yeah.

3010
02:58:45,540 --> 02:58:46,620
Adam Curry: Is that guy when

3011
02:58:47,040 --> 02:58:50,820
John C Dvorak: he looked at the
sequence, and he said, This is

3012
02:58:50,820 --> 02:58:53,910
lab made, and there's HIV in
there, which they still don't

3013
02:58:53,910 --> 02:58:57,630
like to discuss. No. And he
says, this is just some lab

3014
02:58:57,630 --> 02:59:00,150
thing. And he had some thesis
about why it would have been

3015
02:59:00,150 --> 02:59:03,180
invented in the first place,
which was I thought generous on

3016
02:59:03,180 --> 02:59:07,890
his party thought it might be
some mechanism for vaccinations,

3017
02:59:07,920 --> 02:59:08,670
the creative back

3018
02:59:08,670 --> 02:59:11,310
Adam Curry: so using and I
thought that's very generous.

3019
02:59:11,310 --> 02:59:11,760
Yes.

3020
02:59:12,300 --> 02:59:18,810
John C Dvorak: And nothing is,
you know, some some would you

3021
02:59:18,810 --> 02:59:23,190
call germ warfare thing going
on, which is what it was. And by

3022
02:59:23,190 --> 02:59:25,710
the way, just to get just to
finish up, I just got to I did

3023
02:59:25,710 --> 02:59:31,020
get a note from right now. From
one of our listeners. Yes, that

3024
02:59:31,020 --> 02:59:34,320
brought up the Palm Island thing
which I Yes. Which you mentioned

3025
02:59:34,320 --> 02:59:36,930
I mentioned is probably the
source for

3026
02:59:39,360 --> 02:59:42,060
Unknown: limes, Miami's Lyme
disease. Yeah. And

3027
02:59:42,540 --> 02:59:45,450
John C Dvorak: producer Mike,
and he says, I grew up in

3028
02:59:45,450 --> 02:59:49,710
Montauk, New York, New York.
Plum Island was a short short

3029
02:59:49,740 --> 02:59:56,220
boat ride away. Everyone knew
limes was from that lab. It was

3030
02:59:56,220 --> 03:00:00,480
a biological weapons lab. It was
a small island only accessible

3031
03:00:00,480 --> 03:00:05,160
by boat with one building and
military security. Yeah, so the

3032
03:00:05,160 --> 03:00:10,920
locals all knew it. Yeah, limes
disease which is a plague in

3033
03:00:10,920 --> 03:00:14,070
this country. Thank you, US
government.

3034
03:00:16,199 --> 03:00:19,529
Adam Curry: Since I've recently
become a consumer of the

3035
03:00:19,529 --> 03:00:23,099
product, would you mind playing
us out with your kratom clip?

3036
03:00:23,099 --> 03:00:26,819
Because I have no idea what it
is. But I have recently been

3037
03:00:26,969 --> 03:00:29,399
given some some kratom that

3038
03:00:29,429 --> 03:00:32,669
John C Dvorak: oh, well this is
drink bankable. I just find that

3039
03:00:32,669 --> 03:00:36,599
on the list. Yes, this is a clip
that I'm not sure what the what

3040
03:00:36,599 --> 03:00:41,219
the point of it is. It has a it
has a cautionary tale at the

3041
03:00:41,219 --> 03:00:44,849
same time. Is it maybe a good
thing or a bad thing? Is I think

3042
03:00:44,849 --> 03:00:46,469
inconclusive, but play it

3043
03:00:46,499 --> 03:00:49,139
Adam Curry: well hold on a
second. So one of our producers

3044
03:00:49,169 --> 03:00:54,809
makes kratom himself and a
bottles it in, in beer bottles.

3045
03:00:54,839 --> 03:00:59,429
No. Of course not used. And he
has shipped us some and Tina and

3046
03:00:59,429 --> 03:01:04,649
I have both tried it. I find
that one bottle gives me a

3047
03:01:04,649 --> 03:01:11,309
pleasant a pleasant kind of body
buzz. Yeah, it's not and I was

3048
03:01:11,309 --> 03:01:15,029
very much they gave you some
energy to know didn't get any

3049
03:01:15,029 --> 03:01:18,029
energy. I was very skeptical. I
didn't really want to I mean

3050
03:01:18,029 --> 03:01:21,149
it's been sitting around for a
while but Texas slim came by

3051
03:01:21,149 --> 03:01:25,259
said you got kratom said yeah,
he says, Oh, I'll drink it. So I

3052
03:01:25,259 --> 03:01:29,789
watched him drink a bottle. And
after he did not keel over, I'm

3053
03:01:29,789 --> 03:01:32,909
like, Okay, I'll try it. And the
team doesn't really like it but

3054
03:01:33,389 --> 03:01:37,259
it tastes good. I would say it's
more like I said that horrible

3055
03:01:37,259 --> 03:01:41,279
stuff. People drink a Ken Bucha
she's like, you know, it's

3056
03:01:41,279 --> 03:01:45,869
fermented, but it doesn't taste
horrible. And it gives you a

3057
03:01:45,869 --> 03:01:49,349
pleasant buzz. I was pleasantly
surprised and that's why I'm

3058
03:01:49,349 --> 03:01:50,999
curious about your NT law. Here

3059
03:01:51,000 --> 03:01:52,380
John C Dvorak: we finished the
show.

3060
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Unknown: A drug called Kratom is
making headlines more and more

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frequently, the mostly
unregulated drugs spreading

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throughout America at nightclubs
and gas stations and on the

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internet Gods now because of its
harmful effects. It's facing

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regulation and wrongful death
lawsuit harmful effects.

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Adam Curry: I can't wait to pop
open a bottle after the show

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03:02:13,710 --> 03:02:17,670
Unknown: NTDs fey quarter has
more kratom an herbal drug with

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opioid like effects is spreading
across America.

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There's like a very low key
euphoric feeling and also like a

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boost in energy

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03:02:26,550 --> 03:02:30,030
Samer Fawaz is a former kratom
user who had been using it for

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around six years, a friend
introduced him to the drug and

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03:02:33,420 --> 03:02:36,330
he bought it online in a
powdered form he would use it

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03:02:36,330 --> 03:02:40,140
regularly to get energy but for
laws later realized he was

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03:02:40,140 --> 03:02:41,610
becoming dependent on it

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and when I got off of it, I felt
a significant withdrawals for a

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03:02:45,570 --> 03:02:51,090
few weeks. You know, major
stomach issues like low very low

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03:02:51,090 --> 03:02:54,210
grade depression and loss of
energy completely, like I had to

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03:02:54,210 --> 03:02:57,120
really re calibrate back to
normal

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03:02:57,150 --> 03:03:00,240
only after breaking the
addiction did he realize it had

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03:03:00,240 --> 03:03:03,870
been numbing his emotions and
causing him stomach problems now

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03:03:03,870 --> 03:03:06,570
that he's drug free, he says
it's amazing to not be

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03:03:06,570 --> 03:03:10,410
controlled by the need to use
substances. Luckily for was

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didn't experience major side
effects, but others who have

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used it in higher doses or in
combination with other drugs

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03:03:16,440 --> 03:03:17,220
have

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side effects everything from
like nausea and diarrhea and

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03:03:21,930 --> 03:03:27,450
constipation. So a lot in the
digestive system area, and also

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the nervous system. And it
sucks. Cognition memory

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03:03:33,420 --> 03:03:38,640
confusion. gait, gait, gate,

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Adam Curry: come on this. This
is very odd, as you know what

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03:03:43,260 --> 03:03:46,140
it's probably because it's very
healthy and beneficial. These

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03:03:46,140 --> 03:03:50,700
reports come out. It's possible
this makes no sense. I'm gonna

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03:03:50,700 --> 03:03:54,780
have a bottle right after the
show. So if you don't hear from

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03:03:54,780 --> 03:04:00,090
me you know, it's a cranial
hospital is the kratom it's the

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03:04:00,090 --> 03:04:05,520
kratom Hey, that's it for no
agenda for today. Another

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03:04:05,910 --> 03:04:10,440
another half season of
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to you in one handy little
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03:04:13,230 --> 03:04:19,770
do is send the value back. End
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03:04:19,950 --> 03:04:24,780
Bill whew, deck Billy Bones. We
got Eric Colburn and Cyborg Dave

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03:04:25,080 --> 03:04:29,610
with some new and some classic
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those guys have fun. And coming

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03:04:43,260 --> 03:04:45,540
to you from the heart of the
Texas hill country here in FEMA

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03:04:45,540 --> 03:04:48,120
Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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03:04:48,120 --> 03:04:48,510
curry,

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03:04:48,839 --> 03:04:51,599
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm going

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03:04:51,599 --> 03:04:55,259
to enjoy summer beginning today
and it probably ending in two

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03:04:55,259 --> 03:04:55,859
days.

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03:04:57,870 --> 03:04:58,740
Adam Curry: Your name is

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03:04:59,160 --> 03:05:00,840
John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm sorry. am
John C. Dvorak

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03:05:01,440 --> 03:05:04,350
Adam Curry: until we meet again,
that will be on Sunday just a

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03:05:04,350 --> 03:05:07,470
few short days away from now.
Remember I said the

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03:05:07,470 --> 03:05:13,530
vorak.org/and A and adios, mofos
Hui Hui, and such

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03:05:13,560 --> 03:05:16,110
Unknown: They want control of
everybody. Now what do they

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03:05:16,110 --> 03:05:19,440
want? They want fewer people.
They think it's already too

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03:05:19,440 --> 03:05:21,930
many. I think that's what
they've been saying in the

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03:05:21,930 --> 03:05:25,170
United Nations for a long time.
But the facts don't bear that

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03:05:25,170 --> 03:05:28,230
out because less and less people
are living in poverty and our

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03:05:28,230 --> 03:05:30,540
knowledge of agriculture is
growing our knowledge of

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03:05:30,540 --> 03:05:33,960
genetics is growing, and we're
able to grow way more food now

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03:05:33,960 --> 03:05:37,140
than we were then. And food is
the basis of how many people can

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03:05:37,140 --> 03:05:37,680
be here.

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03:05:37,920 --> 03:05:41,010
Adam Curry: I like that theory
just starves to death

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03:05:42,420 --> 03:05:46,650
Unknown: I said John C has the
best add ons for audio PRD short

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03:05:46,650 --> 03:05:50,880
session notes don't get the boys
P No jingles no karma keep it

3127
03:05:50,880 --> 03:05:54,450
short and sweet as a black man I
got some questions about black

3128
03:05:55,170 --> 03:05:58,260
Lindsey Graham handover in
itself cackalacky taken them

3129
03:05:58,260 --> 03:06:01,080
beating your How do you get
reelected? This guy is such a

3130
03:06:01,080 --> 03:06:06,660
sad when Trump in every sense
Russian services or is really

3131
03:06:06,660 --> 03:06:11,280
good news. That's what he said.
Never been a fan with this

3132
03:06:11,280 --> 03:06:14,880
manual Lindsey Graham. Trump
this and Biden doesn't really

3133
03:06:14,880 --> 03:06:19,920
know he's barely alive at 1% I
mean, his son Hunter got a

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03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:22,980
sweetheart of a deal the
election was the most secure in

3135
03:06:22,980 --> 03:06:26,760
US history and not a steal and
then he won run in 2014

3136
03:06:27,690 --> 03:06:32,820
excitement for him can even hide
at the end of the world is paid

3137
03:06:32,820 --> 03:06:38,070
to play by the Boulais I mean
going all in on the charm

3138
03:06:38,070 --> 03:06:41,970
offensive front a worldwide
phenomenon is this what you want

3139
03:06:43,260 --> 03:06:47,220
Adam Curry: so it seems to me
that they're just trying to

3140
03:06:47,220 --> 03:06:52,890
slowly kill everybody know what
The Population Bomb people have

3141
03:06:52,890 --> 03:06:55,110
been about since the 70s Yeah.

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03:06:56,099 --> 03:06:59,639
Unknown: Oh my god. Oh right

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03:07:01,650 --> 03:07:03,420
John C Dvorak: 3456

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03:07:11,730 --> 03:07:18,330
Going down deep before we went
any further is this particular

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03:07:18,330 --> 03:07:21,510
clip because it does bring out
an issue that I think is

3146
03:07:21,750 --> 03:07:28,470
floating around Canada is a sub
text around just like being in a

3147
03:07:28,470 --> 03:07:30,450
different domain it is like
being in a different dimension

3148
03:07:30,450 --> 03:07:37,500
you just float around and don't
cause trouble apparently people

3149
03:07:37,500 --> 03:07:44,220
are floating around at night
when you're in them fooling

3150
03:07:44,220 --> 03:07:47,370
around them whether you're in
him for a little short term or

3151
03:07:47,370 --> 03:07:53,280
long term around and so they're
floating around and they're

3152
03:07:53,280 --> 03:08:01,050
stringing we'd have telephone
poles around why is he was

3153
03:08:01,110 --> 03:08:04,500
floating around that's what I
thought the story was about I

3154
03:08:04,500 --> 03:08:12,270
got around just before we
started doing our show this

3155
03:08:12,270 --> 03:08:13,200
stuff was floating around

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03:08:13,560 --> 03:08:20,910
Unknown: Yes By the way Bibles

3157
03:08:26,880 --> 03:08:37,230
John C Dvorak: Bibles Bibles
parent Bibles baby that is right

3158
03:08:37,230 --> 03:08:40,050
get some cookies is called is
called physical

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03:08:47,280 --> 03:08:47,670
Unknown: models

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03:08:52,740 --> 03:08:56,790
Adam Curry: models very
difficult to stay sane. I smoke

3161
03:08:56,790 --> 03:09:04,170
a lot of weed and I do the show
so good. Christina curry Tina

3162
03:09:04,170 --> 03:09:07,890
the keeper Mimi JP adorable to
share the shield and the whole

3163
03:09:07,890 --> 03:09:09,750
curry DeVore acknowledge and
family

3164
03:09:12,060 --> 03:09:14,310
John C Dvorak: being a company
with the insane no agenda

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03:09:27,390 --> 03:09:33,480
Unknown: Mofo vorak.org/and
Please remain seated for the

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03:09:33,480 --> 03:09:34,620
family photo