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Adam curry Jhansi Devora August

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13 2023. This

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Adam Curry: is your award
winning give our nation media

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assassination episode 1581.

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Unknown: This is no agenda

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Adam Curry: back in the lowlands
and broadcasting live parallel

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to runway two, seven and
Schiphol Airport in the

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Netherlands in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I can tell

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that the sheep pole connection
ain't what it used to be. I'm

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Jhansi Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: Oh, is it a bad
connection?

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John C Dvorak: It's not a good
one. Oh, it's okay. If you can

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hear me. I can hear you. Yeah,
you sound great.

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Adam Curry: Good. Oh, so it's
cracking up. It's messing up.

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John C Dvorak: cracks up on on
modulation. Oh, so what I'm

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excited, you me? Know is when
you're playing it loud clip.

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Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'll try
to back it off a little bit just

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for you. Sorry.

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John C Dvorak: I can make them
so as the recording is good. I

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just use

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Adam Curry: you. You my friend.
You sound you sound. Fabulous. I

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apologize. So I we got up early,
because you know,

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John C Dvorak: well, you better
preface it because there's an

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Amsterdam. How about that?
You're an Amsterdam, and we're

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supposed to start an hour early.
But we started a half hour

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early.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Oh, 20
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have started. I'm telling you,
this was completely my mistake.

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We I thought we had discussed,
like, no, maybe we'll do an hour

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early and we really hadn't
finalized it. Now. Normally, I

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always proofread the newsletter.
I was with my sister last night

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we're having dinner. And the
newsletter comes in and I'm

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like, I'm not gonna do that. And
Tina, Tina was like, screw that

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old guy. No way. Don't do the
newsletter. And I forgot about

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it. And then I never read that
we were starting an hour early.

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You see I made it her fault
somehow was pretty good. So So

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we're sitting downstairs, I'd
been ready for an hour and a

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half. We said now we can have a
nice dinner because I won't be

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done until midnight. So we'll
we'll eat together. And and I

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just ordered coffee and Tina
goes Hey, Twitter's on fire.

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Everyone's expecting like, Oh,
okay. So brought the coffee

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upstairs and got started right
away. I'm sorry. That was

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completely my fault.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was. Ah,
so here we are. Although I could

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have sent out, you know, just a
friendly reminder, which I

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should have done but I didn't
see the need and now and

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carelessness. Yes.

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Adam Curry: My my fault on my
part to Tina said You know, if

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it were me, I would have double
checked and said just to make

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sure said yes. I know. By the
way she has packed like Tetris

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this trip. She's so good at it.

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John C Dvorak: Everywhere.
That's what yeah, that's what

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she has to keep. Exactly.
Exactly. As good as keeping time

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though.

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Adam Curry: So yeah, the
internet is not what it used to

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be. I guess. It's not it's not
as great. I don't think so. No,

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it's not as great as it was. Why
is that? So

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John C Dvorak: anyway, because
war stories from the flight,

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Adam Curry: you know, I wish I
could give you real warst I have

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a very brief travel report, but
it was actually kind of smooth

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San Antonio is where we left.
San Antonio hands down. A

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million times better than than
Austin, first of all, from San

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Antonio. And it's not Austin.
Now better pie was on the

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lookout for the facial
recognition that everyone's been

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talking about. Never happened.
No, it's definitely there. But

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it's really sly it they got so
they have the cameras down below

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mounted on the TSA kiosk
pointing up. But there's

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supposed to be a sign that says
you can opt out there was none

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of that. I did not make any
trouble but I took note of it.

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So then we everything goes I
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John C Dvorak: sure to stop them
in their tracks. What is this

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vacation I

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Adam Curry: don't want to be a
troublemaker I want to get

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there. The I have the new road
kit, everything you know, and I

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have it set up and now I just
I'm very I'm able to quickly

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take everything out and put it
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seven bins. So they didn't no
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check my bag because there's
nothing in it basically. So the

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new process that's all working.
We fly to Detroit because that's

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how we're gonna get there is
through by Yeah, I I I've been I

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used to have Chrysler as a
client in Detroit. Back in the

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thick new ideas days and I've
been to that airport a lot and

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as we're walking through, and
yes, the airport

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John C Dvorak: has got a subway
that goes through the airport.

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Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. They have
a subway in the airport. And I

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was thinking you know, ma'am,
they're really ruining our great

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American aviation system. You
know, because I it's Detroit is

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one of those places where you
fly through it to get to some

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other desk destination can you
just know that all these delays

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and then your lack of pilots and
cabin crew and it kind of took

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me back to the days when you
just you know you you had your

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your your driver drop you off at
curbside 20 minutes before the

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flight would leave, you throw
your keys into the little bin

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you know you go through the
metal detector, there was no

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issues with anything there
wasn't even screen your bags.

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There was no bag screening I
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You know, just put your coins
into the little basket and you

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grab them and you ran to the
gate you got on there's no TSA

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now that bull crap. When I was a
kid, then it was it just I don't

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know I had this just weird
reminiscing feeling about me

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about just how easy and it just
used to work you know now you

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see everyone unhappy. And
there's delays everywhere. It's

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just it's ruined the whole
coolness of our air

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transportation system is ruined.
You don't fly

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John C Dvorak: thanks to eight
holes effects like this shoe

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bomber. Yeah. The assholes who
kept hijacking planes to Cuba if

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you remember that

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Adam Curry: era. That was before
my time I wasn't part of the of

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the Cuban hijacking. But even
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that's when we got the metal
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to take your shoes off. You
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think there might have been at a
certain point they might have

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had some kind of minor X ray
thing that you threw your bag

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through but they never they say
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good thing and they just put it
back in again. Now you're good

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to go. They might want you if
you went off in the metal

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detector. None of this go back.
Take your belt off take your

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take your shoe the your your
watch. I take all that stuff

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off. It's just kind of ruined
anyway. To make matters worse,

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so we're we are on Delta from
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know, you stand in the line.
It's like a you need to

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John C Dvorak: watch a weird
flight. Where are you going,

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Dale, I'm going to Amsterdam
from Detroit.

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Adam Curry: It's a cheap flight
is what that is. And then you

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get that ladies and gentlemen,
please, if you came here going

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to Amsterdam, you have to have
your passport in your hand. If

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your passports not in your hand,
you will not be allowed to mine.

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Okay, we got a passport and a
boarding cards. And you walk up

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and there's a guy just stand
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that. Look at the camera. And
you look in the camera and

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flash. I mean there's no flash
but the screen goes zip. And

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then the little circle and
there's your head and you get a

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green checkmark. And that's it.
They didn't look at your ticket

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didn't look at my passport,
anything. So they already had me

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facial recognition ized

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John C Dvorak: or not. And that
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Adam Curry: went fast. No and
had your name there too. We went

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boom. Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: go when they
taught when they took a picture

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of you said Adam curry after the
picture. No one's

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Adam Curry: taking a picture.
There's a screen that's about

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John C Dvorak: your head it says
Adam curry it's so it sees your

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shoulder because it took the
same picture of you down below

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at the beginning. Remember?

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Adam Curry: Well, that was in
but that was in Santa beginning

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of your flight. Yeah. So So
you're telling me Yeah, but Dan

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Antonio of the TSA put that into
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John C Dvorak: Has to what I was
would they have your picture

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with Adam curry name?

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Adam Curry: From my prison
record? I don't know. Um,

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John C Dvorak: there's no other
way that I can think of. Well,

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and why not? It's just a
network. Just the internet.

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Adam Curry: Come on. This stuff
never works. Try try re booking

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your flight. They don't like

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John C Dvorak: the fact that it
worked at that point 100

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million. I'm just saying that as
possible. That what that is that

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your picture in San Antonio,
which were they associated with

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Adam curry? Is the say is how
it? No, I gave the name Adam

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curry when you got to Detroit. I

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Adam Curry: think when we hear
here's what I'm thinking when we

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checked in, in San Antonio. I
think then they scan the

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passport picture. That's how I
think it works. And that good.

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So that's in the I don't think
the TSA system is connected. It

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feels okay. Well, when that
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that's amazing that it works in
today's ABS amazing. Anything

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John C Dvorak: works. I agree.
It's amazing.

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Adam Curry: I can talk to you
from Amsterdam on this

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connection. Oh, that's amazing.
So then here's the good part.

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Friends of ours who have pool
and influence in the Netherlands

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arrange for the VIP arrival.
This is the coolest thing ever.

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Oh, so you you walk out of the
plane and you go up to halfway

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up the the jetway and there's a
lady with a nice business suit

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on Mr. Mrs. Curry. Yes.

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John C Dvorak: Did they did she
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Adam Curry: No. spotted me
spotted me right away. Mr. Mrs.

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Curry. Yes. I'm here from the
VIP center, or the VIP center or

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dip center, VIP, the VIP, the
VIP, the VIP VIP VIP Yeah, they

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called VIP VIP Center. I'm here
from the VIP center. Okay, come

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with me. And so she opens the
door on the jetway opens up and

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put this a little staircase. You
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underneath the nose of the
aircraft. And there's an Audi

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limousine, like, I don't know.
Like, it looks like a like an

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eight. But it's a limo verse
stretch out, stretch Audi, and

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we get in and it smells new,
like Corinthian leather. And we

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just were driving around the air
side of the airport, and then

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she pulls up. And there's all
these other people like, hello,

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and they're on uniforms, you
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black pants, and just you know,
uniform was dolled up. Okay,

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let's dolled up and there's and
there's a customs guy, you know,

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and in the Netherlands, the
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John C Dvorak: So he was
straight so that this just took

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you to us to a private customs.
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Adam Curry: private customs. And
the guy was teaching to chunk

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passport. You go up the
elevator, you go through this,

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John C Dvorak: getting off a
private Yes, exactly.

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Adam Curry: This is what the
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John C Dvorak: you gotta set me
up for that I'm going down. So

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I'm just visiting this,

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Adam Curry: this VIP Center,
this is ripped and has your

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crown jewels behind glass and
all the royal family. You know,

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my girl makishima The queen who
hair flipped me. It's got, you

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know, beautiful pieces of art.
There's huge antique books, it's

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all there's all these different
rooms and we go into the canal

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house room, which is like a
little suite with a TV and a

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breakfast table and couches. And
they say oh, what can we get up?

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You get some breakfast and I'm
here we're ordering breakfast.

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That which is all you know, they
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with a gold paint on the you
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plate. So you get french toast
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John C Dvorak: stuff. You know,
I met this place and they had

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gold stuff on the plate. But she
has moved from Texas.

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Adam Curry: What do you call it?
What chefs do what chefs do on

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when they live in a fancy
restaurant they you know they

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gold stuff. Gold leaf gold leaf
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to my shit Do you need to do you
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no, it's all in the system will
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then a certain point it's like
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know you'd luggage is
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John C Dvorak: I'd be a little
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Adam Curry: I don't know if we
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fantastic. And then we're
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the airport hotel was kind of
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John C Dvorak: So so so good to
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Jesse went to Hawaii. Wow. So I
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story, some sort of an airport
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here. And he didn't have one
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there was some guy on the plane
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and he started sleepwalking.
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Adam Curry: Oh, no.

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John C Dvorak: And they had to
did took the whole crew to

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subdue him and then tie him into
the seat. And as soon as they

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strapped him in, he felt dead
asleep. And he didn't wake up

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the whole time they put the

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Adam Curry: gaffer tape around
him. I've seen that like no,

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John C Dvorak: they didn't have
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It's Ambien. They said it was
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Adam Curry: probably had Ambien
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John C Dvorak: or something. Who
knows? But it's a pretty good

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story. These drugs are no good

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Adam Curry: now about about
Hawaii and about Maui

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specifically. So we got several
pieces of email that people

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thought we were huge dicks.

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John C Dvorak: Was they thought
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Adam Curry: got a couple that
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it doesn't matter. I mean, we
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finding about now. I mean, are
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John C Dvorak: here. Here's what
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following. How did this happen?
Yeah, exactly. And it's not

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global warming and the whole
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then there was no alerts and no
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stories say the same thing.
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even get a beep on our phone. So
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This thing was a disaster. How
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like this? burned to the ground?
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the water. Yes. Then you look
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bunch of cars burnt to a crisp,
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Adam Curry: So first of all, we
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insensitive because when people
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did that. Well, you can because
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historical perspective,

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John C Dvorak: we're not gonna
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Adam Curry: I am gonna make some
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happens. But this was different.
And we do have some good boots

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on the ground reports and the
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if you look online, the
conspiracy theories are better

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than I could have ever even come
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John C Dvorak: we just was
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Adam Curry: what happened. We
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there's some credence to some of
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have to tick tock clips just to
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stuff that I was being sent. So
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fires. Now I want you to look at
this footage, and this surely

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doesn't look like a fire to me.
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exploded or something went off.

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Adam Curry: And this this
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that Northern California footage
that was started by Cydia

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paradise paradise. Thank you, it
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incinerated. And then there's a
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you know. So these are very
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other things are not now the
Governor did say this is climate

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change doing this. Interesting.
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January, how they had in Maui, a
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Maui into an entire smart
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Adam Curry: This is true that
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interesting point, but not quite
the directed energy weapons

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panels and pushing everybody
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minutes smart cities. So now
what's also interesting is next

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month in September, Hawaii is
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Summit, utilizing AI to govern
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Adam Curry: We've gone off track
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Unknown: it's almost like
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start rebuilding for this in
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they're going to try to push but
they're not going to talk about

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the weather modification act of
1970. I only recommend everybody

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look into this act, because who
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modification activities,
Department of Agriculture,

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Department of Defense Department
of Interior, EPA and NASA. Okay,

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Adam Curry: this guy goes on.
It's like they modified the

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weather to ruin Maui. All right,
then we get the TIC tock girl,

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Unknown: I have been trapped in
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I experienced firsthand what was
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not important. I need to discuss
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disaster. This was a direct
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place of knowledge. As you know,
what lives their descendants

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lived there. You know why? And
you know why it happened on

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eighth? This is not something
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Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. Now, a
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absolutely true that there are a
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elite people who have big
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long time, there's been Native
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give up their land they didn't
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town is very historic town. And
this is where Dustin comes in

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with his boots on the ground.
Behind la Lahaina, I think it's

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I pronounce it says he's been
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absolutely your analysis on
Thursday the fires in Maui

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having nothing to do with
climate change completely spot

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on. Here's the background which
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background were the worst case
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John C Dvorak: by the way.

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Adam Curry: The hyena behind the
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place, the west coast of Maui,
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Lahaina, the town is located on
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island in the shadow of the West
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almost all of the moisture that
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hot, dry desert almost all year
long. The town of Lahaina was

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once the capital of Hawaii and
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lived there. That was the mid
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summers in the nearby olowalu
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to be in this town. The word
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English means the unrelenting
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place for hundreds if not 1000s
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early 1900s Lahaina became a hub
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the harbor became a center for
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industry. Hundreds of wooden
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whalers and sugarcane workers,
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structures were built along the
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use the stores, restaurants and
hotels to supply the town. Fast

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forward to present day behind as
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those old wooden buildings built
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now Historic Landmarks cannot be
upgraded or changed by the new

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owners due to permitting
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built very close together
without any modern fire

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mitigation measurements and
measures and located in a part

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of the island that is surrounded
by hundreds of acres of dry

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grassland, and has wildfires as
you mentioned on the show every

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single summer season. A few days
ago, there was a hurricane that

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passed to the south of Maui. Now
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miles away, but they did have 60
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West Coast, which toppled power
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outside of town igniting them.
Let me reiterate, this happens

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every year at this time, but
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happened to be a little too
close to town and the addition

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of the hurricane force blowing
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wooden homes and stores is
enough to burn the entire town

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of Lahaina to the ground almost
immediately. I think this is

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exactly what happened. But there
probably was not a huge

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incentive on the island. And
they probably been maybe even

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waiting for this like one of
these piece of crap things going

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to burn down. Because this is
gold, this is gold. And I also

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think by throwing in the
hurricane, maybe we get some

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kind of force majeure. You know,
insurance companies like I you

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know, this is, this is an act of
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may they may that that's why I
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much. But this is going to be
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toll may be in the 1000

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John C Dvorak: i Well, there's
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it's not gonna get into 1000s.
And we could get up to 1000

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John C Dvorak: I'm in total
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have this place was one of those
places that did great for

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tourists. I mean, I love going
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towns, the old wild west. And
you go in there and you can shop

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and there's all these cute
little places and and meanwhile

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the developers are looking you
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This is no good. I mean, we
can't do it. Look, can we can we

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care to have these old buildings
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No. So here's okay. Okay, fine,
fine, fine. And I think that may

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account for the fed and well I
don't know if it did anybody any

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good not to warn anybody because
they weren't going to stop the

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fire anyway. But there was no
mitigation whatsoever. His day

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are on the water. One tick one
pumper boat.

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Adam Curry: Listen, Dame Jessie
boots on the ground. Fire

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started in the morning, she's
there in Maui Fire Department

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claimed it to be 100% contained,
and left left with the huge

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winds blowing. I drove the road
where it restarted around noon,

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and there was no fire at the
time. anonymously, my husband

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Oh, okay. So and honestly, I
can't say that, I guess, let's

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just say there was a water truck
sent to the site that was turned

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back. She feels his whole
apocalypse of Maui could have

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been completely avoided. And
there will be big lawsuits, the

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older fire chiefs all retired in
the last couple of years. And

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the new ones are all budget
conscious to one water truck,

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which might have cost a couple
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So I'm thinking that exactly
John that knows like me, you

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know, it's time to redevelop
this thing now, did they

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consider that this was like a
box of matches that it will just

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go up like that. And I can
imagine that if the ground is

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dry. And it's all wooden
structures all built next to

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each other that can go fast fire
can go very fast,

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John C Dvorak: especially with
old wooden buildings. And so I'm

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fan that that first note about
the buildings being a bunch of

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old, you know, pieces of junk
basically, ready to go at the

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drop of a hat that towel could
it burn to the ground at any

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time.

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Adam Curry: And I'm thinking
that because it came so quickly

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and you saw the laser beams from
the sky pictures everywhere,

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which turns out to the time
lapse launch from a rocket from

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Vandenberg. I think I have half
a mind now that this was

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launched into the ether just to
you know, to put it out to all

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that's a crazy conspiracy theory
about the elites wanting it to

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burn to the ground where they
probably did. But let's just

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throw some directed energy
weapons stuff into the mix. And

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then everyone will say it's a
conspiracy theory and won't have

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to talk about it anymore.

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John C Dvorak: I think there's
like $1.7 billion with a tourism

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in that town. It's 1.327 I can't
remember the exact number, which

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is about something like a lot of
Hawaii's told tourist industry.

439
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:52,290
So it's over a billion dollars
in tourism in that in that

440
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island. Yeah, they figured they
can double that if they get rid

441
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:59,520
of that if they rebuild. What
modern tourists want modern

442
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,270
tourists are not like you and I
who like maybe really do like

443
00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:04,350
going through walking around

444
00:25:04,350 --> 00:25:06,930
Adam Curry: the old town. Yeah,
of course we love that. No

445
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,350
John C Dvorak: monitors that
they like they don't mind if

446
00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:13,380
it's a little slicker a little
nicer a little more like

447
00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:14,670
Disneyland Right?

448
00:25:14,910 --> 00:25:15,600
Unknown: Exactly.

449
00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:20,670
John C Dvorak: And I think that
they this is this is not they'll

450
00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:24,270
never This is unsolvable as a
mystery it's just you can't keep

451
00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:26,520
doing it you can't find the guy
that the match but

452
00:25:26,550 --> 00:25:30,150
Adam Curry: well according to
Dustin it was the the winds that

453
00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:33,600
blew that happens every single
year except this year. They

454
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,240
thought stop it. They said they
had it contained and they didn't

455
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,700
and they didn't have any they
hadn't. They weren't prepared.

456
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:40,590
Now, is that gonna

457
00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:43,350
John C Dvorak: be just could be
a confluence of idiots. That's

458
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:45,570
always possible. Yeah. Yeah.

459
00:25:46,350 --> 00:25:49,020
Adam Curry: So And believe me,
I'm the first guy to want it to

460
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:53,460
be a directed energy weapon. If
you know that. Oh, yeah. And I'm

461
00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:58,380
looking at these pictures like
and then have the green lasers

462
00:25:58,380 --> 00:26:02,280
from space that happened just a
few weeks ago. Yeah,

463
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:03,030
John C Dvorak: that's a good
one.

464
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:06,030
Adam Curry: Well, the green
space they aren't measuring

465
00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:07,470
stuff. That's that's probably

466
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,630
John C Dvorak: I don't have any
clips from the Maui store. I

467
00:26:09,630 --> 00:26:12,750
think we've beat it up there. I
think that covers us pretty much

468
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:15,480
but I do have since you're
talking about crazy stuff. I

469
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,840
have to I'm bringing these clips
and these are clips that are

470
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:23,640
there. They're almost a month
old. But but they're they're

471
00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:29,310
Alex Jones Jones clips. And the
reason I'm bringing them up

472
00:26:29,310 --> 00:26:31,860
because I just want to make a
point to people out there who

473
00:26:31,860 --> 00:26:35,370
are podcasters or podcast
wannabes or everyone when has

474
00:26:35,370 --> 00:26:40,350
the podcast. This is not Alex on
his show. This is Alex on that

475
00:26:40,350 --> 00:26:42,540
show that value tainment group

476
00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:46,950
Adam Curry: pet Patrick bett
Patrick Davis, what does it

477
00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:50,310
John C Dvorak: do? And he's just
he's got three guys and it's a

478
00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:53,910
well produced show in terms of
the quality of the sound that's

479
00:26:53,910 --> 00:26:57,270
for sure. Patrick Davis that's
it. But the reason I want to

480
00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:01,140
play this is because I have to
say we don't play Alex Jones

481
00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:08,280
clips much. But when we when he
goes on somebody else's show.

482
00:27:08,370 --> 00:27:14,160
Yeah, he brings it. Yes, he
does. He does it on Rogen. He

483
00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:17,730
wherever he goes that people
should do they go You're right.

484
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:21,540
Alex Jones. No, you should bring
him on. And here's the I've got

485
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:26,460
three clips and these clips are
just unbelievable. Let's start

486
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:29,370
with AJ on on Biden.

487
00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:33,330
Adam Curry: Yeah, I thought Hold
on a second. AJ Biden, sorry,

488
00:27:33,330 --> 00:27:33,780
here we go.

489
00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:36,150
Unknown: They're getting ready
to take out the garbage with

490
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:39,300
Biden. I think they'll probably
kill him. Or he'll die honestly.

491
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,620
Hold on some stairs or be
drugged or whatever, or or at

492
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:47,820
least be in a coma very soon.
And I've got very high level

493
00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:50,850
sources that are there. You got
people Dougie, the Democratic

494
00:27:50,850 --> 00:27:53,400
Party. Roger stones totally
dialed and he was on my show

495
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,250
yesterday. And he said they're
crazy enough that they're

496
00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:59,490
thinking that's what Democrats
are saying right now. Okay. Big

497
00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:04,140
Mike. Michelle Obama. Hey,
that's my line. And then VP

498
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:08,730
Newsom or Newsom. But Obama is
he's the real President right

499
00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:12,480
now. And he'll third term
elected we have a video. He he's

500
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,610
now coming back out and saying
I'm involved and I'll see how

501
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:16,770
they're getting ready to get rid
of Biden. That's the only reason

502
00:28:16,770 --> 00:28:19,680
those reporters are on a leash.
None of them ever asked question

503
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,420
for two and a half years
suddenly they're all attacking.

504
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:24,180
Yep, it's because they've been
let off the leash because Biden

505
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,250
was supposed to like he said
right before he's

506
00:28:26,850 --> 00:28:30,840
Adam Curry: I love it how this
guy's going yep, yep. Yeah,

507
00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:31,800
right on Yeah.

508
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:34,410
Unknown: won the election.
Remember? He said, Well, if I

509
00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:37,170
don't do what I'm told the I'll
probably just develop some rare

510
00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:42,030
disease and resign. Yep, he said
it multiple times. Letting them

511
00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:45,210
know, man Well, he's still his
brain was still there remember

512
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:48,660
the deals then? But according to
Roger Stone, other sources

513
00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:52,170
Rogers dead on. He's He's hangs
out with he talks to some of the

514
00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:55,620
high level Democrats. Bullshit.
Joe Biden is telling him Don't

515
00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:59,340
leave. She likes the power and,
and he's he's told him eff off.

516
00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:01,890
Adam Curry: Alright, hold on.
Now, before you move on with AJ

517
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:06,090
clips. Tina and I were just
discussing a new version of my

518
00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:09,450
theory. I wasn't even going to
bring this up. But now I need to

519
00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:14,640
bring it up. Because what I'm
seeing ever since. Oh, let me

520
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,820
laugh first, as you're gonna
love this. You're gonna love

521
00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:22,020
this. I agree with Alex Jones.
Biden is no way you gotta say

522
00:29:22,020 --> 00:29:26,850
yep. Yeah, Biden's toast. Yep,
he's out. So the I mean, they've

523
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:29,220
got the special counsel. I'm
sure you have clips. I got

524
00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:33,540
clips. We got that. Yeah, short
counsel. I got that. But what's

525
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:37,470
happening is this Obama gay
thing is catching fire. The

526
00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:40,470
Telegraph. Everyone's you know,
this book that's been out

527
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:43,950
forever. Now all of a sudden,
it's like it's just not news.

528
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:45,270
No, I know. It's not news.

529
00:29:46,110 --> 00:29:50,100
John C Dvorak: We do remember
this. Newsweek actually came out

530
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,130
with an edition of Newsweek that
said our first gate President

531
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,510
Obama, yes.

532
00:29:54,990 --> 00:29:59,430
Adam Curry: But wait, because
I'm adjusting my theory. I think

533
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,780
so. The Democratic Party who the
heck knows who's running what, I

534
00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:07,950
think we have multiple factions
inside the Democratic Party. And

535
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:12,450
there's one and there's the
crazy trans Maoist faction. You

536
00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:16,260
know, the ones who have three
trans kids, and they're and

537
00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:19,830
they've all gotten together and
said, This is our chance. This

538
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:24,090
is it. We've got to ease America
into it. We've got to let them

539
00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:29,640
know Obama's gay. And then boom,
Big Mike 2024 first trans black

540
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,180
president.

541
00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:35,460
John C Dvorak: This was a
logical conclusion that I knew

542
00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:36,450
you would draw.

543
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,760
Adam Curry: Well, there it is.
I'm just putting it out there.

544
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,660
Okay,

545
00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:41,190
John C Dvorak: it's out there.
It's out there. It's on the

546
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:42,780
record. At first I thought they
were trying

547
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:47,970
Adam Curry: to thwart Michelle
Obama by saying nah, by creating

548
00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:52,320
controversy around her husband.
But now I'm these people are

549
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,970
crazy. They'll do it. Listen,

550
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400
John C Dvorak: we know that you
know, what happened?

551
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,360
Adam Curry: Who knew we'd be
locked down? Who knew we would

552
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,710
have 1000s of children being
sterilized? I anything's on the

553
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:05,580
table for me.

554
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000
John C Dvorak: With the 1000s of
kids being sterilized, that's

555
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,420
pretty interesting. And it's,
I'm gonna do the skip Biden

556
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:16,800
twofer. Now, that's the last
clip now, because AJ still

557
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,690
bringing it so here he is on
Trump.

558
00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:21,390
Unknown: Yeah, I think I mean, I
think they're gonna demonize

559
00:31:21,390 --> 00:31:24,750
even diamond diamond diamond dot
him. And then I I think they'll

560
00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:29,760
blow their plane up. I really
got level is Trump. I mean, I

561
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,250
mean, I believe the deep state
establishment will murder him. I

562
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:34,800
mean, I believe he's gonna
steadfast go through all this.

563
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,790
You know, he'll be he'll be 30
points ahead in the primaries,

564
00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:41,640
nothing's gonna stop him. And
then they just, you know, he

565
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,100
dies of a heart attack or they
poison him with a closer point

566
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:44,970
on the pricker.

567
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,350
Adam Curry: The pricker airline
and blowing up the airplane is

568
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:49,860
messy.

569
00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:54,810
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is me.
I'm just saying this is just AJ,

570
00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:58,080
you know, on somebody else's
show. He just goes nuts. And I

571
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,530
just thought this clip had to be
clipped. This is the last one of

572
00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:05,760
the three. And it I just did
just a head shaker and just

573
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,260
hilarious. I was

574
00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:10,950
Unknown: told by the NYPD and
Secret Service a year and a half

575
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:12,720
ago when he went remember he
kept showing up late and

576
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,780
changing clothes like three
times, though he gets mad when

577
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:19,050
he goes in these weird because
they get him on speed too much

578
00:32:19,050 --> 00:32:21,660
to roll him out and hope it's
okay. And it's not now. But when

579
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:25,890
he gets mad, he takes a big dump
in his drawers. I'm serious.

580
00:32:25,890 --> 00:32:27,720
Okay. He's got him saying My
butt's been wiped.

581
00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:37,890
Adam Curry: He said he did say
can we Fact Check? Check. Okay,

582
00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:40,980
yeah, he brings it but this is
alright. I wasn't gonna do this

583
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:45,570
until maybe second half of show.
But this is going to bring this

584
00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:49,770
kind of talk is putting all of
us in danger in grave danger.

585
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,830
Because now we have the Southern
Poverty Law Center, going after

586
00:32:56,310 --> 00:33:00,090
podcasts. At first it was just a
little you

587
00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:03,600
John C Dvorak: know, little all
those mate loony. Oh, yeah, but

588
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,850
Adam Curry: this this is new
now. Because now there's this

589
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:11,340
outfit called Tech against
terrorism. It's an NGO. Oh,

590
00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:15,600
yeah. It's an NGO funded by the
United Nations our own money.

591
00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:22,980
And the most recent, most recent
episode is about podcasts.

592
00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:31,320
Podcasts are really used by by
terrorists and extremists to

593
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,700
recruit and plan horrible
things. And when you listen,

594
00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:38,790
well have a couple of short
clips when you listen to it.

595
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:41,310
That I think everyone's in
danger.

596
00:33:41,429 --> 00:33:43,439
Unknown: This week we're
discussing the use of podcasts

597
00:33:43,439 --> 00:33:46,619
by extremist actors are growing
unconcerned. And Trent

598
00:33:46,679 --> 00:33:49,409
concerning over the last 10
years or so extremists have

599
00:33:49,409 --> 00:33:52,499
increasingly been leveraging
podcasts as a platform to spread

600
00:33:52,499 --> 00:33:56,159
their messages recruit followers
on network with like minded

601
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:59,489
individuals, extremist groups
and networks on the far right

602
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,219
have developed an alternative
media ecosystem that is

603
00:34:02,219 --> 00:34:05,819
reinforcing and normalizing
hateful ideologies, fringe

604
00:34:05,819 --> 00:34:09,809
ideas, and conspiracy theories.
And the ease of creating and

605
00:34:09,809 --> 00:34:12,719
distributing audio content has
allowed these actors to

606
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,079
regularly produce material that
reaches a global audience and

607
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,059
amplifies their extremist
worldviews.

608
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:20,370
Adam Curry: Now, raise your hand
whenever you feel they're

609
00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:25,020
talking about no agenda, no
agenda, nation. No agenda

610
00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:28,710
social.com. Anytime you feel
that that might be talking about

611
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:32,100
us. Let's talk about the scope
of this research they have done

612
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:35,610
with the SPLC the southern
Southern Poverty Law Center Lady

613
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:38,130
California regulators have Oops,
that's not the right one. I'm

614
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:40,080
sorry. To be this one.

615
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:44,220
Unknown: Most of the podcasts
that we studied were produced by

616
00:34:44,490 --> 00:34:48,330
organized groups, although some
more not, we tried to pick up

617
00:34:48,330 --> 00:34:52,230
mix, right, right. And then some
of them were individual

618
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:56,580
vehicles, so but even those
podcasts tended to have

619
00:34:56,790 --> 00:35:01,440
recurring guests or CO hosts
that they would bring Get in as

620
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,220
kind of semi regular cast
members, I guess. And then

621
00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:08,400
ideologically, we again tried to
pick a mix of the different

622
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,730
flavors of hate and extremism.
So there were some

623
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Adam Curry: different flavors of
hate and

624
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,990
Unknown: extremism, Neo
Confederate podcast or some neo

625
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:20,160
Nazi podcast, we had variety of
what used to be called the alt

626
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,800
right podcasts. Yeah, so just a
big mix there, some anti

627
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,690
government style podcasts. So we
had about 18 that we studied,

628
00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:35,250
and there were, oh, gosh, I want
to say 900, and some different

629
00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:40,140
cast members across this podcast
and several 1000 episodes that

630
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:42,840
they produced over a 14 year
period.

631
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,100
Adam Curry: Who's that? This is
Southern profit loss. And

632
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:47,880
they're like, no, no, I'm

633
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,200
John C Dvorak: saying who is the

634
00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:51,900
Adam Curry: dude, they've got a
map. They've gotten like a map,

635
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:53,340
a huge little digger. She

636
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:56,460
John C Dvorak: said there was
1400 episodes, and they were

637
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,740
1000s of guests.

638
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:02,340
Adam Curry: Cast on us by the
last minute which cast members?

639
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we there's
no doubt about it. You're not

640
00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:09,120
talking about us. All right.
Members, except for the two of

641
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,780
us. All right.

642
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:14,280
Adam Curry: Okay. So all right.
They're not talking

643
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,900
John C Dvorak: back it up a
little bit. I want to hear that

644
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:18,990
part of this. I want you to
podcast she's talking I want

645
00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:19,800
let's move forward

646
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,790
Adam Curry: and you start
hearing it.

647
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:22,980
Unknown: I turn to Meghan to
learn what it is about podcast

648
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,860
specifically, that makes them
useful communication tool for

649
00:36:25,860 --> 00:36:26,610
extremists.

650
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Adam Curry: Mind you. All right.
I mean, we are not named

651
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,420
specifically. And they only have
a couple of like, not even

652
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:36,390
they're not even doing Steve
Bannon at this point. But they

653
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:39,090
have a map with all kinds of
dots and how they're all

654
00:36:39,090 --> 00:36:43,080
connected. And Josh, yeah. Hey,
I've been on the Alex Jones

655
00:36:43,290 --> 00:36:47,340
podcast, you have believe me?
We're connected as group.

656
00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:50,280
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.

657
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:54,900
Unknown: They're very low cost
to produce. So you basically

658
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:58,320
just need a microphone and some
recording software. You can

659
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,840
throw the file up and it'll get
scooped up, hopefully.

660
00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:04,860
John C Dvorak: Throw it up in
the air file, and

661
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,010
Unknown: you're good to go. But
different podcasts, catchers and

662
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:12,180
then distributed to a pretty
wide audience. It's cross

663
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:16,920
platform, low skill, and wide
distribution. Those are pretty

664
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,490
magical features, if you're, you
know, if you're trying to

665
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,930
promote hatefully deals,

666
00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:22,740
John C Dvorak: not a feature.

667
00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:26,190
Adam Curry: But also we made it
that way. So everybody can

668
00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:28,680
podcast lady. That was the whole
point.

669
00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:31,710
Unknown: There's also a variety
of different platforms that they

670
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:35,520
can live on. So you're not sort
of hitching your wagon just to

671
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,940
Spotify or just Apple podcasts.
There's a wider distribution

672
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:42,210
network. And this is helpful if
you're trying to stay under the

673
00:37:42,210 --> 00:37:45,480
radar. Have one or not get
content moderated. Right, like

674
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:45,690
you

675
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,360
John C Dvorak: stopped. Stop it
for one second. I have to

676
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,200
interrupt. Yeah.

677
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:53,280
Adam Curry: So people are
dangerous. I just want you know,

678
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,460
these

679
00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:55,710
John C Dvorak: people know I,
you, we they've been dangerous

680
00:37:55,710 --> 00:37:59,310
for a long time. Yeah. But let's
let's stop for a sec. What was

681
00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:03,900
the year that you'd say? What
was your first what year? Was

682
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,440
the podcast first implemented? I
would say let's say the first

683
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:15,480
though, during your source code
era 3000. In fact, 2003 20 Wait

684
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:15,780
a minute.

685
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:20,280
Adam Curry: That's important to
note. That's when we started but

686
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:26,880
the first official daily source
code was launched on August 13.

687
00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:31,740
Two day in 2004. But the the
experimentation was already

688
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:33,210
happening in 2003.

689
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:35,610
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, let's
start it. I'm going to go with

690
00:38:35,610 --> 00:38:38,760
the 2003. Because it's a round
number because it's 2023. Yeah,

691
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:47,550
but it's okay to say 2014. So 19
years have passed was millions

692
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:52,950
of people putting up podcast and
all of a sudden after almost,

693
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:58,410
let's say, almost 20 years. They
do this?

694
00:38:58,919 --> 00:39:01,289
Adam Curry: What you have to
understand first, these people

695
00:39:01,289 --> 00:39:06,689
are morons and dangerous. So
they are just now discovering

696
00:39:06,689 --> 00:39:11,939
that podcasts aren't only on
Spotify and Apple. They're like,

697
00:39:11,939 --> 00:39:14,909
holy moly. There's people look

698
00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:19,320
John C Dvorak: this podcast is
outside the Yes. Here

699
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,270
Adam Curry: are flying under the
radar with this stuff with wide

700
00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:27,600
distribution that just throw a
file up in the air and boom

701
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,950
1000s of people have it

702
00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:31,800
Unknown: hitching your wagon
just to Spotify or just Apple

703
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,040
podcasts. There's a wider
distribution network. And this

704
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,880
is helpful if you're trying to
stay under the radar of one or

705
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,330
not get content moderated right
like you if you just on YouTube,

706
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:43,290
or you're just on

707
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,870
Adam Curry: people have like
their own networks in there. And

708
00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:49,200
they have their own cast
members, also known as producers

709
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,910
who are hosting these files and
it's outside of apple and

710
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:57,030
Spotify. Come on John here with
the ladies saying

711
00:39:57,180 --> 00:40:00,270
Unknown: twitch or something
streaming your bulletins that

712
00:40:00,270 --> 00:40:03,120
platform jump kick you off,
podcasts are a little looser,

713
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:07,110
loose. So you control the file
and how it gets recorded. And

714
00:40:07,110 --> 00:40:10,590
then from there, it gets
distributed more broadly. So

715
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:19,200
there actually is. So, there
actually turns out to be a

716
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,920
pretty effective means of
building community and spreading

717
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,140
propaganda. Yes, propaganda

718
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:28,470
Adam Curry: and community now,
what kind of people are this?

719
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:34,080
What kind of, of individuals are
these? under the radar podcasts?

720
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600
What kind of podcasts? Are
these? What's going on with

721
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:36,840
this?

722
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:39,360
Unknown: I asked Megan about the
ideologies promoted on these

723
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,150
extremist podcasts and OreImo.
Say your track. Yeah, just

724
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:45,840
John C Dvorak: stop it again.
When time is I? Because this is

725
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,500
so ridiculous. Who is this other
woman what it was? Did you get

726
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:49,890
this?

727
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,690
Adam Curry: This? This is the
tech against terrorism show. And

728
00:40:54,690 --> 00:40:59,370
it's from an NGO named tech
against terrorism, which is,

729
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:01,470
John C Dvorak: which is a
podcast which has served

730
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:02,910
ironically, it's, well,

731
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:06,840
Adam Curry: they have a podcast,
been around for a while. Been a

732
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,680
real really ever since 2016. I
would say this is British chick.

733
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:14,310
She's the host of the show.
Okay, so she has two people on

734
00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:17,790
from the Southern Poverty Law
Center. That's the other lady

735
00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:20,910
and then you'll hear some
douchebag dude. So now she's

736
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:23,970
going to go into what kind of
podcasts are these? Who are

737
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:28,620
these these shadowy figures who
don't want to be on Spotify or

738
00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:29,010
apple?

739
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,530
Unknown: I asked Megan about the
ideologies promoted on these

740
00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:31,890
extremist

741
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:34,230
Adam Curry: ideologies, do they?
What ideologies do these

742
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:35,430
extremists have

743
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:38,430
Unknown: missed podcasts and the
audience they attract? There

744
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:42,180
were religious faiths podcast
was one that we looked at that

745
00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:43,200
was Oh, no.

746
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Adam Curry: Man, I picked a fine
time to be born again.

747
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:52,320
Unknown: Religious space podcast
was one that we looked at that

748
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,550
was Orthodox Christian, no,
caspo no

749
00:41:56,550 --> 00:42:00,450
Adam Curry: Orthodox Christians.
Were there Russians, Ukrainians,

750
00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:02,100
who are these Orthodox
Christians?

751
00:42:02,490 --> 00:42:03,750
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch
of these.

752
00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:08,040
Adam Curry: I've no I do know
that. I know God casters, I

753
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560
mean, a lot of God casters in my
orbit

754
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:13,830
Unknown: in style podcast. There
was one that we looked at that

755
00:42:13,830 --> 00:42:17,280
was a NEO Confederate, you know,
the South will rise against

756
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:21,120
actually we had at least two of
those in the set. It was an all

757
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:27,330
right podcast that was primarily
panels talking about the news.

758
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,430
There was a new boy Nazi podcast
that had a radio shock jock

759
00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:37,080
sharp, John Matt, there was a
podcast that attempted to do

760
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,310
comedy and each of the guests or
hosts rather would have these

761
00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:45,270
recurring characters that they
would play that were either

762
00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:48,210
racist stereotypes and tropes,
or hey, I'm

763
00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:50,010
Adam Curry: Zippy I'm a racist,

764
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,740
Unknown: or that kind of thing
trying to be funny. I mean,

765
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:53,310
really, it'd

766
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:54,720
Adam Curry: be funny. It sounds
like

767
00:42:55,049 --> 00:42:57,779
John C Dvorak: we're doing the
Dana Carvey podcast, trying to

768
00:42:57,779 --> 00:42:58,319
be funny,

769
00:42:59,279 --> 00:43:02,909
Unknown: quite a variety of
different styles. And it was a

770
00:43:02,909 --> 00:43:08,009
lot in generalities, I would say
it's mostly a male audience

771
00:43:08,009 --> 00:43:10,949
right. And just like the groups
that we're setting in the in the

772
00:43:10,979 --> 00:43:13,709
movements that we're studying
are typically male, although

773
00:43:13,709 --> 00:43:17,339
I've written extensively and
others have to on women in these

774
00:43:17,339 --> 00:43:20,429
movements, but it is typically
male. And then depending on you

775
00:43:20,429 --> 00:43:20,669
ever

776
00:43:20,670 --> 00:43:24,780
John C Dvorak: listen to Sophia
with an F, she's not call her

777
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:29,070
daddy or any of these No, man,
those sons of female based

778
00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:30,240
podcasts, they're

779
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,960
Adam Curry: not the extremists.
You never listen

780
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,590
John C Dvorak: to them

781
00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:37,380
Unknown: extensively, and others
have to on women in these

782
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,530
movements, but it is typically
male. And then depending on the

783
00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:44,700
podcast, and depending on the
ideology that that podcast is

784
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:48,390
promoting. Some of them are
trends younger and some of them

785
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:51,540
trend older. It really just, it
really just depends. And then

786
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:53,550
there's some that fall right in
the middle and have a truly

787
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:57,630
mixed audience. So yeah, mostly
male. Mostly, what that's

788
00:43:57,630 --> 00:44:00,270
probably not surprising, was,
you know, the podcasts that

789
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:03,930
we've chose for this sample were
largely white supremacy, you

790
00:44:03,930 --> 00:44:07,350
know, white nationalist white
supremacist style podcasts. So

791
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:11,490
that is very surprising that
they, they tend to be white and

792
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:13,830
male and they just were mixed.

793
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:17,520
Adam Curry: white and male, old
and younger. Good. We're in the

794
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,800
sweet spot of this thing is
beautiful. Now, as I said,

795
00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:23,730
they've discovered

796
00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:26,100
John C Dvorak: they've
discovered now younger this

797
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:27,900
week. We're in the sweet spot.

798
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:30,210
Adam Curry: They've discovered
that you know, how does this

799
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:33,630
work? How did they get around
the content moderation, their

800
00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:37,200
friends at Spotify, their
friends at Apple? Oh, how was

801
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,020
this being done? I think this is
the dude now comes the crack.

802
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:42,750
Unknown: Streamers podcast
distributed across the

803
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:43,680
internet's how are

804
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Adam Curry: they distributed
across the internet, if they're

805
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,570
not working with big tech, which
we can then censor?

806
00:44:48,690 --> 00:44:52,050
Unknown: I asked Bjorn so it's
really various. Some of the

807
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:56,040
podcasts are like open a
distributed tray like the main

808
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,430
distribution services wherever
you find your podcasts.

809
00:44:59,819 --> 00:45:01,709
Adam Curry: Oh, Oh no, if you
say wherever you find your

810
00:45:01,709 --> 00:45:03,899
podcasts, you might be an
extremist.

811
00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:07,410
Unknown: People keep saying
podcasts, the problem of

812
00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:10,560
podcasts of our is that you
don't have to distribute them

813
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,670
through a service like that,
like making it impossible to

814
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:15,420
watch

815
00:45:16,859 --> 00:45:19,979
John C Dvorak: this guy, okay,
he's very affected

816
00:45:20,219 --> 00:45:24,239
Unknown: service like that, like
making it impossible. So there

817
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,219
should be certain podcasts
through those services is

818
00:45:26,219 --> 00:45:29,249
certainly good in terms of like
lowering the amount of

819
00:45:29,249 --> 00:45:29,909
detection.

820
00:45:30,479 --> 00:45:32,789
Adam Curry: But we're not being
detected.

821
00:45:32,849 --> 00:45:35,969
Unknown: Podcasts are largely
kind of distributed through RSS

822
00:45:35,969 --> 00:45:40,919
feeds. Anyone with a computer
can set up an RSS feed. And

823
00:45:41,099 --> 00:45:46,529
that's the point spread to their
podcast, tree more subversion

824
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:48,209
ways. And so

825
00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:51,390
John C Dvorak: you said
subversion

826
00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:55,920
Adam Curry: reversers. So if you
just distribute via RSS, that's

827
00:45:55,950 --> 00:46:00,030
versus that's more subversive
versus you know what he means

828
00:46:00,030 --> 00:46:00,420
the

829
00:46:00,450 --> 00:46:04,950
Unknown: more subverted ways and
so like, as we're talking about,

830
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:08,760
also content moderation and the
fediverse and more of

831
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:10,500
distribution, right at verse,

832
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:13,230
Adam Curry: verse, hello, no
agenda, social

833
00:46:13,470 --> 00:46:16,230
Unknown: operation and the
Senate version more kind of

834
00:46:16,260 --> 00:46:19,860
distributed in the Federated
Services, the syndication model,

835
00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:22,500
Adam Curry: these people living
under a rock? No, they're living

836
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:25,530
on 100 million dollars of
Southern Poverty Law Center

837
00:46:25,530 --> 00:46:30,240
money. That's that pile is so
heavy, they can't see the RSS

838
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:31,170
through the dollars

839
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,800
Unknown: versus the syndication
model of podcasts, being

840
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,990
distributed through RSS feeds is
really an interesting case study

841
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:44,400
as well in preparation for that.
And because of AdWords, the way

842
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,360
in which it's really left up to
the control of the individual.

843
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,330
Adam Curry: They have no
control, they have control.

844
00:46:52,290 --> 00:46:55,230
John C Dvorak: They can't the
individual can control. Yes,

845
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,070
Adam Curry: this is this is what
they hate. They hate that we are

846
00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:01,080
doing this ourselves. I'm not
gonna say they're

847
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,830
John C Dvorak: just gonna stop,
stop. I'm gonna stop. I don't

848
00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:10,200
I'm not giving you a clip for
the day for this crap. But But I

849
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,540
am going to find a way to
nominate you for the Nobel Peace

850
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:20,550
Prize for for podcasts and 2.0.
So they can think I'm joking.

851
00:47:20,550 --> 00:47:20,790
No,

852
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:23,220
Adam Curry: why, but why do I
deserve the I mean, I want the

853
00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:26,610
peace prize. It would be nice.
But how do i Why am I deserving

854
00:47:26,610 --> 00:47:27,180
of this?

855
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:31,470
John C Dvorak: Because
podcasting 2.0 Yes. For saw.

856
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,420
Yes. The clips you're playing
right now. Yeah. And created a

857
00:47:36,420 --> 00:47:40,920
secondary, kind of a backup
system extremist tech podcast

858
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,620
and for the rest of the rest of
the days.

859
00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:46,980
Adam Curry: Yes, extremist
terrorist outfit,

860
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:50,460
John C Dvorak: but you will get
you well, you know, that's up to

861
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,060
people want to find extremist
stuff, they'll find it this got

862
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:57,150
nothing to do with podcasting
2.0 or anything else? No, of

863
00:47:57,150 --> 00:48:00,210
Adam Curry: course not. Well,
they are however, they, you

864
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:03,780
know, they, it's a big problem
for this, even though they have

865
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:06,960
hundreds of millions of dollars.
It's a real big problem

866
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,810
detecting all of these things.
Because you know, it's a lot of

867
00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:13,260
podcasts, you have to you got to
sift through 1000s of episodes.

868
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:13,800
But

869
00:48:13,830 --> 00:48:16,110
Unknown: all the detection
software has largely been

870
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:19,680
focused on music because a
copyright enforcement and so

871
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:23,160
there are elements of software
out there that is useful for

872
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,040
that and can be used for things
like automatic detection of

873
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,480
jingles are common across from a
tech perspective, discovering

874
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,100
what people are actually saying
in all your competence is a

875
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:38,820
challenge.

876
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,550
Adam Curry: So it's still a
challenge, even though

877
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,990
podcasting 2.0 literally has
made it so that you can now go

878
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:50,790
to bing.io. And you can search
the transcript of every single

879
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:58,890
episode we've ever done. Oh,
man, so support us now people

880
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:06,090
for our legal fund. My goodness,
they're nuts. These people are

881
00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:10,290
nuts. They cannot stand that
we're using that anyone is using

882
00:49:10,290 --> 00:49:14,190
the Internet. Anyone? Anyone
anyone I'm satisfied said anyone

883
00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:17,010
John C Dvorak: that any single
person. And like, you know, the

884
00:49:17,010 --> 00:49:20,850
clip was the you know, who's the
who doesn't have a podcast? Yes.

885
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:24,960
But that's not something that
you want. You don't want

886
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,950
everybody having a voice or
being having the ability to be

887
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:31,800
heard. Now. They they do noisy,

888
00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:35,250
Adam Curry: but what I'm hearing
here is they are they're just

889
00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:38,430
discovering because of that very
big pile of money they're living

890
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:44,310
under that there's this whole
ecosystem that's been around for

891
00:49:44,370 --> 00:49:49,560
they think 14 years, but Okay,
give them that 20 years that

892
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,630
exists on RSS. We thought Google
had done away with that a long

893
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:59,070
time ago when they close Google
Reader but oh no. Turns out

894
00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:04,950
these extremists are Still using
this to distribute their their

895
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:10,590
Hateful Eight Pages hate, just
hate and we can't we need to

896
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:13,440
stop them they need to be
moderated somehow.

897
00:50:16,379 --> 00:50:19,529
John C Dvorak: Moderation. Yeah.
Anyway, that brings me to

898
00:50:19,919 --> 00:50:26,669
January 6, January 6. I just did
just a cursory thing I probably

899
00:50:26,759 --> 00:50:30,689
should do an essay on this but a
couple of conservative writers

900
00:50:30,689 --> 00:50:36,479
had written up a actually
professors had written up that

901
00:50:38,219 --> 00:50:42,239
Trump is really has an issue
with this. It doesn't make sense

902
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,649
when I read their essays about
how it's in the Constitution

903
00:50:46,649 --> 00:50:51,029
that if you take part in an
insurrection, you are

904
00:50:51,029 --> 00:50:54,899
unqualified, you can't run for
president, right. And all these

905
00:50:54,899 --> 00:50:57,869
indictments and all this
bullcrap is really this all a

906
00:50:57,869 --> 00:51:01,019
smokescreen for the real
indictment, which is the January

907
00:51:01,019 --> 00:51:08,789
6 stuff. And the fact that from
day one. From day one, there was

908
00:51:08,819 --> 00:51:15,299
a comment and we I remember when
this January 6 happened, you and

909
00:51:15,299 --> 00:51:17,579
I have wished that well, why
watch this. I watched it on C

910
00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:21,479
span. There wasn't anything
going on. It was a creation. It

911
00:51:21,479 --> 00:51:25,799
was created by Nancy Pelosi and
it was worse than Pearl Harbor,

912
00:51:25,799 --> 00:51:29,609
911 and all the rest of it. So
that brings me and so I'm

913
00:51:29,609 --> 00:51:34,949
thinking that this is this is a
last ditch attempt is yes to

914
00:51:34,949 --> 00:51:38,069
keep Trump from running and it's
all based on him being an

915
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:41,219
insurrection. Even though I have
lots of thoughts on this.

916
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:43,230
Adam Curry: Can I tell you what
Tina's theory was on this

917
00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:47,280
because she's way into this?
Yeah, she's she's waiting

918
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,370
because she's always saying I
hate this. By the way. She's a

919
00:51:50,370 --> 00:51:53,790
white supremacist. She's the
problem if Southern Poverty Law

920
00:51:53,790 --> 00:51:57,180
Center, she's the one she's the
she's the mastermind behind the

921
00:51:57,180 --> 00:52:01,140
no agenda show. So she's always
looking at how they're still

922
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:06,060
people locked up for the for
trespassing, in essence, what

923
00:52:06,060 --> 00:52:10,350
they're trying to get them on
one of the one of the to Trump

924
00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:19,680
charges, which is thwarting or
interrupting or trying to stop a

925
00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:23,160
process in Senate, which is, you
know, that's an insurrectionist

926
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,370
thing. And so they're trying to
hide from what she says what I

927
00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:29,250
think is reasonable. They're
trying to convict some poor

928
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:34,260
people like 65 and 68 years old,
of this work slouches of this

929
00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:39,510
one particular crime, which is
interceding. I forget the exact

930
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:44,640
term in a governmental process,
which would be the exact process

931
00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:47,910
is one of Trumps. Yeah, that's
that's one of his charts. And if

932
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:51,270
they convict this those people,
then they can they'll have a

933
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:54,690
case by case law to indict the
two

934
00:52:54,750 --> 00:52:58,710
John C Dvorak: conditions. They,
this is a long way, but Okay,

935
00:52:58,740 --> 00:53:01,170
good luck with that. I'm just
saying, let's listen to these

936
00:53:01,170 --> 00:53:05,760
clips. This is the Epoch Times.
January, the pot times ended up

937
00:53:05,790 --> 00:53:09,570
grabbing, getting hold those
same tapes that that Tucker

938
00:53:09,570 --> 00:53:13,890
Carlson tried to show he showed
him for one day of his show and

939
00:53:13,890 --> 00:53:14,790
then got fired.

940
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:19,110
Adam Curry: This is the guy who
was running the Capitol Police.

941
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,830
John C Dvorak: That's coming.
That's the last of the of these

942
00:53:22,830 --> 00:53:24,990
clips. Let's start with the
Epoch Times one.

943
00:53:25,049 --> 00:53:28,199
Unknown: The epic times on
Friday released a special report

944
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:31,859
called The January 6 tapes. This
comes after a three month

945
00:53:31,859 --> 00:53:35,819
investigation by the newspaper
of over 40,000 hours of US

946
00:53:35,819 --> 00:53:38,999
Capitol police surveillance
video. Some of the most dramatic

947
00:53:38,999 --> 00:53:42,239
surveillance footage acquired
shows the disabling of Capitol

948
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,599
Police Officer Brian slick Nick,
he died the day after the

949
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:49,109
protest at the Capitol. The
cause of death was two strokes.

950
00:53:49,229 --> 00:53:52,529
Federal prosecutors charged two
men with assaulting sick Nick

951
00:53:52,529 --> 00:53:56,189
with pepper spray, one of whom
was Julien le cater. In this

952
00:53:56,189 --> 00:53:59,309
video you can see a police
commander firing numerous bursts

953
00:53:59,309 --> 00:54:03,059
of pepper spray from a high
velocity tank. The video shows

954
00:54:03,059 --> 00:54:06,659
the spray passing by the left
side of signix face after which

955
00:54:06,659 --> 00:54:09,449
he turns away and leaves the
area while caterers still

956
00:54:09,449 --> 00:54:12,539
appears to be some distance
away. caterers fathers said they

957
00:54:12,539 --> 00:54:16,139
never saw this video before the
Epoch Times showed it to them

958
00:54:16,139 --> 00:54:19,979
saying they withheld this big
time since it is in Washington

959
00:54:19,979 --> 00:54:23,519
DC. Everything is stacked
against the January Sixers

960
00:54:23,790 --> 00:54:28,350
Adam Curry: oh yes and yeah he
showed him one time didn't

961
00:54:28,350 --> 00:54:31,380
really show all the even these
good bits I don't recall Tucker

962
00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:31,890
showing

963
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:35,700
John C Dvorak: no Tucker never
got the chance to show anything

964
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:41,070
he showed he had one down after
one episode one episode that and

965
00:54:41,070 --> 00:54:44,010
then he went he by the time was
gonna get to this will be

966
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,710
covered. We'll get to the police
guy because I have a clip of him

967
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:48,480
special. But let's go to clip to

968
00:54:48,810 --> 00:54:51,780
Unknown: another clip involves
the Oathkeepers their founder

969
00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:55,140
Elmer steward Rhodes The third
was in court, partly for

970
00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:58,560
allegedly initiating a phone
call to provide instructions on

971
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,710
how to attack the Capitol. If
defense attorneys at the time

972
00:55:01,710 --> 00:55:05,550
argued the call never happened,
video now shows roads appeared

973
00:55:05,550 --> 00:55:08,430
to be attempting to make cell
phone calls, but not having

974
00:55:08,430 --> 00:55:12,120
success. The entire documentary,
which includes much more new

975
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,860
information on January 6, is now
online on Epic tv.com.

976
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,690
Adam Curry: Who have you seen
the whole thing?

977
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,420
John C Dvorak: No, I do all
these things for so long. I

978
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:25,110
haven't seen the whole interview
with the police guy either, but

979
00:55:25,110 --> 00:55:27,510
I didn't have to. But let's go
to clip three. And this is the

980
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:31,260
one that triggered me to get a
clip for which I which is named

981
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:31,740
differently.

982
00:55:32,070 --> 00:55:35,220
Unknown: Also on Friday, Tucker
Carlson published an interview

983
00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:38,670
with Steven Sund, the former
chief of the Capitol Police,

984
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:41,940
Carlson had already interviewed
sons while Carlson was still

985
00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:45,180
with Fox News. However, the day
the interview was supposed to

986
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:49,350
air Carlson was fired and Fox
never published it. So Carlson

987
00:55:49,350 --> 00:55:53,550
interviewed him again, Sunday
says days before January 6, the

988
00:55:53,550 --> 00:55:56,760
US military was well aware of
possible violence on the day of

989
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,690
the protest, but then changed
course all of a sudden watch

990
00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:03,900
on Sunday and Monday, they had
been discussing locking down the

991
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:07,320
city, revoking permits on
Capitol Hill because of the

992
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,890
concern for violence. Instead,
on January 4, what does fuller

993
00:56:10,890 --> 00:56:13,590
do? He puts out a memo
restricting the National Guard

994
00:56:13,590 --> 00:56:16,860
from carrying various weapons,
any weapons, any civil

995
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:19,860
disobedience equipment that
would be utilized for the very

996
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:23,970
demonstrations or violence that
he sees coming? It just doesn't

997
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:24,660
make any sense.

998
00:56:24,690 --> 00:56:28,170
sunde also says he was among the
only ones who was not notified

999
00:56:28,170 --> 00:56:29,760
about the expected violence.

1000
00:56:31,140 --> 00:56:32,250
Adam Curry: This was a setup.

1001
00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:35,670
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
interesting to me and I've done

1002
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:40,110
the last clip as well. I played
the last of didn't say what I

1003
00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:44,310
think but this is the Steven son
summary. Now here, this is a

1004
00:56:44,310 --> 00:56:48,870
minute and here's the here's the
preface to this the setup does

1005
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:53,340
he sets the guy down and talks
to him for 55 minutes. And

1006
00:56:53,340 --> 00:56:57,870
luckily, he's got a producer now
that took the kind of the nuts

1007
00:56:57,870 --> 00:57:01,260
out of the 55 minutes and put it
at the beginning. So it's been

1008
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:04,860
produced. Yeah. And the
beginning has little snippets of

1009
00:57:04,860 --> 00:57:08,580
really what's what's important
because who needs the 55 minutes

1010
00:57:08,730 --> 00:57:12,600
and Tucker I've noticed the
starting to go long. With these

1011
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,570
interviews he sit somebody down
and he starts talking long hours

1012
00:57:15,570 --> 00:57:19,650
a problem. When you're not, you
know, you're not confined by a

1013
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:23,010
network TV or anything where you
got to segment you got to be

1014
00:57:23,010 --> 00:57:24,480
blocked. You got to see block.

1015
00:57:24,510 --> 00:57:27,000
Adam Curry: Yes, this. He's not
Joe Rogan.

1016
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,520
John C Dvorak: Right. He's not
Joe Rogan. And, and Rogan, you

1017
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,580
know, it goes naturally long,
but distrib, I'm reminded of

1018
00:57:35,580 --> 00:57:41,070
writers just as an aside, that
Greenwald, Glenn Greenwald is a

1019
00:57:41,070 --> 00:57:44,700
perfect example. When writers
when the internet first came

1020
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:47,910
along, I knew a lot of guys who
would you'd write in print, if

1021
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:51,330
you wrote in a newspaper, in
particular, these newspapers

1022
00:57:51,330 --> 00:57:54,090
designed to be top down written.
So you write all the important

1023
00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:57,210
stuff at the beginning and gets
more and more less important. So

1024
00:57:57,210 --> 00:57:59,940
you can just chop it get Chop,
chop, chop, so you can fit it

1025
00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:04,980
into a space. And but news
magazine, writers would have a

1026
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:08,550
certain amount of words you can
produce. But once the internet

1027
00:58:08,550 --> 00:58:12,150
showed up, and they could write
online, some of these guys just

1028
00:58:12,180 --> 00:58:15,990
didn't know how to stop. Yeah,
they would go on and Tucker is

1029
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:19,200
falling into this category.
Agree. So luckily, he's got a

1030
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,650
producer who took the snippets,
and put them all at the

1031
00:58:22,650 --> 00:58:24,030
beginning. And here they are,

1032
00:58:24,090 --> 00:58:26,400
Unknown: you've described his
his intelligence failure. But if

1033
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,180
failure is something

1034
00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:29,970
that happens accidentally, none
of the intelligence was coming

1035
00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:32,640
up talking about the storming of
the Capitol killing members of

1036
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,430
Congress were killing my police
officers was ever discussed at

1037
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:37,680
the conference calls that I was
on at least doesn't seem to make

1038
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,230
sense at all. It doesn't make
sense. I'm looking at my men and

1039
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:42,810
women having their asses handed
to him and my first thought was,

1040
00:58:42,810 --> 00:58:44,910
fuck it. I will take whatever
discipline there is,

1041
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:49,530
once things got out of control
for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused

1042
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,780
to allow you to bring in the
National Guard. Why don't we

1043
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:52,380
have answers?

1044
00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:54,750
It doesn't seem like people
really want to get to the bottom

1045
00:58:55,230 --> 00:58:58,200
of it. And it gets worse from
there. I had a conference call

1046
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,530
with the leaders of all the law
enforcement it was a call I

1047
00:59:01,530 --> 00:59:04,320
coordinated not one person on
that call talked about any

1048
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,990
concerns for the intelligence
the attack on the capital that

1049
00:59:06,990 --> 00:59:09,420
we're seeing that was out that's
what's that's what's scary. This

1050
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:09,690
sounds

1051
00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:13,800
like a setup to me. I'm sorry.
It does you Jersey State Police

1052
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:16,860
beat DC National Guard to the
Capitol tweet.

1053
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:20,910
Cops drove from New Jersey
before the National Guard could

1054
00:59:20,910 --> 00:59:23,730
get from the armory on Capitol
Hill to the Capitol. Why isn't

1055
00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:25,590
the story everywhere? I have no
idea.

1056
00:59:26,850 --> 00:59:28,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good.
That's good. Well, you know

1057
00:59:28,980 --> 00:59:31,380
what? There's some self
awareness there at least he's

1058
00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:33,030
got a producer that knows what
he's doing.

1059
00:59:33,690 --> 00:59:39,750
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
needed. Yeah. Now my thoughts on

1060
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:44,190
this are interesting because two
reasons for firing Tucker's are

1061
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:48,240
always blamed nowadays are
blamed on dominion. Dominion

1062
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,670
demanded as part of the
settlement which was a

1063
00:59:50,670 --> 00:59:53,340
ridiculous settlement to begin
with, by the way, make any

1064
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:53,790
pushed

1065
00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:56,490
Adam Curry: by a lot of
prominent podcasters including

1066
00:59:56,490 --> 01:00:00,420
Megyn Kelly, and a whole bunch
of other people all saying It

1067
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:03,840
was because of this because of
dominion. And we never bought

1068
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,530
into that.

1069
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,500
John C Dvorak: It's fishy
because the whole Dominion

1070
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:10,980
lawsuit is fishy and that the
settlement is fishy when you a

1071
01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:16,290
company like News Corp could
stall a proceeding like that. To

1072
01:00:16,290 --> 01:00:20,160
Infinity, they could do it if
they wanted to. You don't just

1073
01:00:20,310 --> 01:00:24,810
roll over for a billion dollars,
it doesn't make any sense. And

1074
01:00:24,810 --> 01:00:27,180
whether there was even any
injury, it doesn't make any

1075
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:30,450
sense. And so that didn't blame.
Tucker's firing on Dominion

1076
01:00:30,450 --> 01:00:34,710
demanding it. I think it's this
guy. This interview plus the

1077
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:38,310
videotapes that Tucker was
starting to roll out was ruining

1078
01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:42,900
the great plot to get rid of
Trump through this insurrection

1079
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,910
rule. statement that's in the
Constitution. And Fox was in on

1080
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:52,830
it because Murdoch never wanted
Trump to be president. No. And

1081
01:00:52,830 --> 01:00:56,190
the Murdochs nowadays are all
bunch of Democrats. Well, like

1082
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:59,700
you'd like to say the whole
always, always was Democrat run

1083
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:04,380
and so so. So Tucker was ousted.
And so Tucker couldn't even get

1084
01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:08,310
this interview back. They never
showed it. So he went and re

1085
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:12,060
interviewed the guy. Yeah, there
you go, which is like, hey, they

1086
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:13,500
didn't expect that, did they?

1087
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:16,590
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well,

1088
01:01:16,740 --> 01:01:18,630
John C Dvorak: this really
stinks.

1089
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:24,180
Adam Curry: So we need to
reiterate that. This was a it

1090
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:27,180
was protection. And they had it
set up a long time in advance,

1091
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:30,990
you know, the we had all the
National Guard and the fences

1092
01:01:30,990 --> 01:01:33,720
and everything. And it was all
set. And I'm not even thinking

1093
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,120
that they even had the camera
angles all set. And we kind of

1094
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,400
think back about the televised
event that

1095
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,560
John C Dvorak: it was, because
you never saw that on C span.

1096
01:01:40,590 --> 01:01:41,880
No, no, no, they

1097
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,420
Adam Curry: had they were all
set for it. And the I think

1098
01:01:45,420 --> 01:01:47,340
there were just two or three
minutes away from a

1099
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:50,670
constitutional procedure, where
we say, Hey, hold on a second,

1100
01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:53,220
let's take a vote on the
ultimate slate of electors,

1101
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,980
which has happened, which I
think it happens almost every

1102
01:01:55,980 --> 01:02:00,510
election, but this election and
Pence was clearly co opted into

1103
01:02:00,510 --> 01:02:06,180
it. And bar I mean, Trump is
great at firing people very bad

1104
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:11,400
at hiring people. And, and, and
the right this is a last ditch

1105
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,950
effort, but it was set up very,
very carefully. And now they're

1106
01:02:13,950 --> 01:02:19,980
going to do us a couple of these
poor saps as examples to get

1107
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:23,790
this one particular type of
conviction. And then the

1108
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,710
laughable part of Trump was
directing people to do that he

1109
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:31,980
was telling them to go commit
violence, which was exactly the

1110
01:02:32,010 --> 01:02:38,160
opposite is true. In fact, he
said, peacefully, within your

1111
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:44,790
patriotic, patriotic protest, I
think he said. And, you know,

1112
01:02:44,820 --> 01:02:48,060
maybe in three years, everyone
will come around. And we'll all

1113
01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:51,780
recognize what really happened.
What is out there, and I thought

1114
01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:56,490
this was pretty good. I'll play
this a supercut. Of the mainly

1115
01:02:56,490 --> 01:03:01,710
Democrats, politicians, but also
Democrat Party supporters,

1116
01:03:02,550 --> 01:03:05,700
calling for violence against
Trump when he was president. And

1117
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:09,060
this is from the two 620 16 era.

1118
01:03:09,090 --> 01:03:12,180
Unknown: I just don't even know
why there aren't uprisings all

1119
01:03:12,180 --> 01:03:14,820
over the country, maybe there
will be there needs to be unrest

1120
01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:17,670
in the streets for as long as
there's unrest in our lives. I'd

1121
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:20,730
be better throw a punch, you had
to throw a punch

1122
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,670
Donald Trump, I think you need
to go back and then punch him in

1123
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:25,830
the face and I thought he should
have punched him in the face. I

1124
01:03:25,890 --> 01:03:27,210
feel like punching him.

1125
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:29,940
I'd like to take him behind the
gym. If I were in high school,

1126
01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:32,340
or in high school, I'd take him
behind the gym and beat the hell

1127
01:03:32,340 --> 01:03:34,590
out of him. No, I wish you're in
high school. I could take him

1128
01:03:34,590 --> 01:03:36,270
behind the gym. I will

1129
01:03:36,270 --> 01:03:39,600
go and take Trump out tonight.
Take them out now.

1130
01:03:40,170 --> 01:03:43,620
When was the last time an actor
assassinated a president?

1131
01:03:43,770 --> 01:03:45,930
They're still gonna have to go
out and put a bullet in Donald

1132
01:03:45,930 --> 01:03:48,300
Trump show me where it says that
protests are supposed to be

1133
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:49,860
polite, and peaceful.

1134
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,050
I have thought an awful lot
about blowing up the White

1135
01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:01,680
House.

1136
01:04:01,950 --> 01:04:06,720
Please get up in the face of
some congress people. People

1137
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,890
will do what they do. I want to
tell you for Dutch, I want to

1138
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:15,930
tell you Kavanaugh you have
released the whirlwind and you

1139
01:04:16,050 --> 01:04:18,600
will pay a price target

1140
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,190
to go in there we're going to
this is just a warning to you.

1141
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:29,610
Trumpers Be careful. Walk
lightly. And for those of you

1142
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:34,050
who are soldiers make them pity
if you had to be stuck in an

1143
01:04:34,050 --> 01:04:36,660
elevator with either President
Trump Mike Pence and Jeff

1144
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:39,600
Sessions who wouldn't be one of
us have to come out alive

1145
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,730
Adam Curry: Yes a memorable
moments in there. Yeah. So

1146
01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:50,910
that's that, by the way is
political speech. It's all good

1147
01:04:50,910 --> 01:04:53,670
political free speech, even
though they're being very

1148
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:56,310
violent, appalling calling for
violence, etc.

1149
01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:58,890
John C Dvorak: This was another
little thing I want to add to

1150
01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:02,700
this idea that this You know all
about the insurrection to try to

1151
01:05:02,790 --> 01:05:08,130
set trump up for that he's been
he did say peaceful is the is

1152
01:05:08,130 --> 01:05:12,150
the bull crap story about him
wanting to go to the Capitol and

1153
01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:15,630
the Secret Service guys refusing
to take him there? I think the

1154
01:05:15,630 --> 01:05:20,880
Secret Service guys have been on
his side all along. And if and I

1155
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,130
brought this up in the
newsletter, which is a question

1156
01:05:23,130 --> 01:05:26,220
is just like I should have
brought up in the last show,

1157
01:05:26,220 --> 01:05:31,260
which is with this guy that they
shot to Trump guy, they shot the

1158
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:34,830
FBI shot because he was
threatening Biden. Why is the

1159
01:05:34,830 --> 01:05:38,160
FBI investigating? This isn't is
supposed to be the Secret

1160
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,700
Service? What's the FBI got to
do with it?

1161
01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:44,940
Adam Curry: One of our producers
emailed me that he has a friend

1162
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,940
who works at the Secret Service.
And he asked this exact

1163
01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:51,960
question. And he said, I don't
know you should ask them money,

1164
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,550
something like that. So now
there's a lot of things wrong.

1165
01:05:57,060 --> 01:05:57,780
But I love this

1166
01:05:57,810 --> 01:06:01,620
John C Dvorak: this was wrong.
Yeah, I guess that's one way of

1167
01:06:01,620 --> 01:06:02,100
putting it

1168
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:04,200
Adam Curry: listen to this
Newsmax or would they not what

1169
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,710
they're now doing Newsmax
they're so they're so afraid of

1170
01:06:07,710 --> 01:06:09,810
getting D platformed themselves
happened,

1171
01:06:10,170 --> 01:06:13,020
Unknown: and that they allowed
that to happen? And that media

1172
01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:15,420
doesn't want anybody to talk
about it. We just have to make

1173
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:18,180
sure they don't cheat on the
elections, because that's the

1174
01:06:18,180 --> 01:06:20,580
question I get more Sir, will
they do it again? Will they

1175
01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:23,490
cheat again, we're not gonna let
them I believe I won that

1176
01:06:23,490 --> 01:06:27,690
election by many, many votes,
many, many hundreds of 1000s of

1177
01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:30,630
us. That's what I think just to
note, Newsmax has accepted the

1178
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:32,790
election results as legal. And
final.

1179
01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:38,250
Adam Curry: Just a note, we have
accepted the results as legal

1180
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:42,090
and final. Yeah, because they
have to disclaim everything now,

1181
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:46,500
otherwise, you know, they get in
trouble. Okay, so you're no

1182
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:50,040
agenda show producers out there,
which is truly your show because

1183
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,780
you give us as much information
as you possibly can. We've been

1184
01:06:54,780 --> 01:06:57,990
ahead of these types of stories
and been called nut jobs for

1185
01:06:57,990 --> 01:07:03,690
many, many years. And it was in
fact, in March of 2020, when we

1186
01:07:03,690 --> 01:07:08,820
called the the panic around
COVID that we call that bull

1187
01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:13,860
crap. And certainly, I think a
lot of people came to the show

1188
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:18,240
and felt a lot calmer during
this whole period, which was a

1189
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,350
version of mass MK Ultra
traumatizing, not just

1190
01:07:22,350 --> 01:07:26,220
Americans, but the entire world.
And it's still being used. And

1191
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:30,540
now we are three years later
working on the full third year.

1192
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:36,090
Yeah. No, no. Yeah. For three,
almost 434 years. And now Oh,

1193
01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:40,260
yes. But now people are figuring
it out. Oh, okay. Here's the

1194
01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:43,740
money. Honey was Senator Ron
Johnson, they've finally figured

1195
01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:44,280
it out.

1196
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,480
Unknown: It's just extraordinary
to me that, you know, the

1197
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,470
government was working with
social media to amplify lies and

1198
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:55,620
suppress truth and has been
doing so repeatedly. Why

1199
01:07:55,620 --> 01:07:59,280
couldn't the American people
know that? You know, there were

1200
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,030
other alternatives to treat?
COVID? Why can't the American

1201
01:08:03,030 --> 01:08:05,700
people know that there were side
effects with the vaccine?

1202
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,720
This was all pre planned by any
elite group of people. That's

1203
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,210
what I'm talking about event
two, a one that occurred in late

1204
01:08:12,210 --> 01:08:16,770
2019. Prior to the rest of us
knowing about this pandemic.

1205
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:21,780
Again. This is very concerning
in terms of what has happened.

1206
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,340
What is happening, what
continues to be planned for our

1207
01:08:26,460 --> 01:08:29,040
loss of freedom. Again, it

1208
01:08:29,970 --> 01:08:33,150
Adam Curry: is Maria Bartiromo.
Oh, yeah, I see it now

1209
01:08:33,179 --> 01:08:36,059
Unknown: most but unfortunately,
they're very better than Yup.

1210
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:39,629
Not much, even in concert
willing to take a look at this.

1211
01:08:40,109 --> 01:08:44,369
They all push the vaccine. They
don't want to be made aware of

1212
01:08:44,369 --> 01:08:46,739
the fact that the vaccines might
have caused injuries might have

1213
01:08:46,739 --> 01:08:50,879
caused death. But people just
simply don't want to admit they

1214
01:08:50,879 --> 01:08:53,099
were wrong, and they're gonna do
everything they can to make sure

1215
01:08:53,099 --> 01:08:56,879
that they're not proven wrong.
We're up against a very powerful

1216
01:08:56,879 --> 01:08:59,489
group of people here, Maria
bunting, unfortunately, you say

1217
01:08:59,489 --> 01:09:01,739
what can we do? Well, you know,
we do have reporters like

1218
01:09:01,739 --> 01:09:04,919
yourself, like John Solomon,
other people that have the

1219
01:09:04,949 --> 01:09:08,459
courage to report the truth
against the mainstream media and

1220
01:09:08,459 --> 01:09:10,439
against the narrative. But
that's the only way this is

1221
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,249
going to be solved as we need
the truth to be exposed. We need

1222
01:09:14,249 --> 01:09:17,879
more Americans to listen to the
truth on podcast host to the

1223
01:09:17,879 --> 01:09:20,999
truth, to pull their heads on
the sand, quite honestly open up

1224
01:09:20,999 --> 01:09:23,699
their eyes and understand what
is happening in this country. We

1225
01:09:23,699 --> 01:09:27,509
are going down a very dangerous
path. But it's a path is being

1226
01:09:27,509 --> 01:09:30,329
laid out in plan by an elite
group. Hello,

1227
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,730
Adam Curry: hello, Senator.
Hello, Senator, we're going down

1228
01:09:32,730 --> 01:09:33,570
the dangerous path

1229
01:09:35,939 --> 01:09:38,969
Unknown: under control over our
lives, and that's what they're

1230
01:09:38,969 --> 01:09:42,569
doing bit by bit. They do it by
increasing mafia, massive

1231
01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:46,139
government spending, increase
the size of government takeover

1232
01:09:46,139 --> 01:09:48,929
of the coup, these amendments
that are coming up, they're

1233
01:09:48,929 --> 01:09:53,369
going to be voted on in 2024 and
the who are frightening and they

1234
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:56,939
really risk taking away all of
our sovereignty, but people have

1235
01:09:56,939 --> 01:09:59,459
to wake up awakened to the
dangers of the moment.

1236
01:09:59,549 --> 01:10:01,949
Adam Curry: So now We have the
big walk back. And this is

1237
01:10:01,949 --> 01:10:04,259
important because it's
happening. One of our producers

1238
01:10:04,259 --> 01:10:08,519
even pointed something out to us
that we we barely caught. The

1239
01:10:08,519 --> 01:10:11,519
big walk back is taking place
now and we have to pay attention

1240
01:10:11,519 --> 01:10:15,419
to it and we will certainly
highlight it whenever we catch

1241
01:10:15,419 --> 01:10:20,429
it. So the first thing is taking
place as the FDA gets hauled

1242
01:10:20,429 --> 01:10:23,909
into court. Doctors are suing
the FDA because they lost their

1243
01:10:23,909 --> 01:10:26,699
practice. They've lost their
license, they've lost their

1244
01:10:26,909 --> 01:10:31,589
careers, because they prescribed
Oh, horrors. They prescribed

1245
01:10:31,799 --> 01:10:37,319
ivermectin as you, as you said
on the previous episode about

1246
01:10:37,319 --> 01:10:40,889
the horse, the PBS show the all
horse

1247
01:10:41,250 --> 01:10:42,900
John C Dvorak: show where they
showed the horse.

1248
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:46,320
Adam Curry: Because New because
people were taking horse

1249
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,520
ivermectin. Some actually were
because you couldn't get

1250
01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:55,710
ivermectin in pill form at
doctors, pharmacies. We're not

1251
01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:58,830
We're not allowed to prescribe
it. We're not allowed to fill

1252
01:10:58,830 --> 01:11:00,990
prescriptions, doctors that
prescribe to

1253
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:04,080
John C Dvorak: prescribe good
I've talked to pharmacists, the

1254
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,590
young if a doctor prescribed it
to pharmacy couldn't fill it.

1255
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,000
Adam Curry: So just a two minute
clip from this. From this

1256
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,730
hearing, and you say at the
judge, you're going to hear the

1257
01:11:15,330 --> 01:11:19,260
millennial. Nothing against
millennials, but just It's

1258
01:11:19,290 --> 01:11:23,490
notable. This doesn't sound like
a seasoned lawyer who was

1259
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:29,730
defending the FDA because the
FDA was tweeting, stop it. Stop

1260
01:11:29,730 --> 01:11:35,880
it. Stop. Stop taking ivermectin
stop prescribing ivermectin. And

1261
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,860
these doctors said, Well, you
know, you said stop it. And it

1262
01:11:40,860 --> 01:11:42,930
was very clear and your
directives and now they're

1263
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,950
walking it back saying no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1264
01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:49,290
you're misunderstanding what we
were saying.

1265
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:52,590
John C Dvorak: I love by the
way. I love this one because I

1266
01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:55,830
think it's in here. They said it
was a quip

1267
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:59,940
Unknown: whippy and may it
please the Court, Ashley Honnold

1268
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,840
for the United States. This case
is about informational

1269
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,860
statements made by the US Food
and Drug Administration to

1270
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:11,820
inform consumers about the
dangers of using certain drugs.

1271
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,140
He made these statements in
response to multiple reports of

1272
01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:20,430
consumers being hospitalized,
after self medicating with

1273
01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:24,840
ivermectin intended for horses,
which is available for purchase

1274
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,050
over the counter without the
need for prescription.

1275
01:12:29,130 --> 01:12:33,630
Adam Curry: You see how there
this is? It's just not true. It

1276
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:39,240
was. It was in fact, CNN mainly,
who accused Joe Rogan of taking

1277
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,770
a horse medicine. And you
remember he had he had Gupta?

1278
01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:44,760
Which,

1279
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:48,090
John C Dvorak: yes, he had
Gupta. Sanjay Gupta. Who do you

1280
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,410
Adam Curry: know what? Why? Why
were you lying? So I had regular

1281
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:55,800
ivermectin, which is just a pill
form for humans. And you kept

1282
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:01,710
saying I was taking horse paste.
So now that they're lying,

1283
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,900
they're lying. Because now they
say, oh, no, that was because

1284
01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:05,790
people were taking horse horse
medication if

1285
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:09,510
Unknown: they did not purport to
require anyone to do anything,

1286
01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:12,330
or to prohibit anyone from do
what about

1287
01:13:12,330 --> 01:13:17,460
when it said No, stop it. That's
the judge. Why is that a

1288
01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:22,800
command? That seems to me it's
that's if you were an English

1289
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:27,450
class, they would say that was a
command stop it. That is

1290
01:13:27,450 --> 01:13:30,900
different than we're providing
helpful information.

1291
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:36,090
Your Honor, the language that
the FDA used in these tweets are

1292
01:13:36,090 --> 01:13:40,350
merely clips. And I don't think
that these clips change the

1293
01:13:40,350 --> 01:13:43,800
substance of FDA statements as
plaintiffs consider that

1294
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,900
a command. Stop it.

1295
01:13:47,250 --> 01:13:51,180
The tweets about the horse
ivermectin were intended to

1296
01:13:51,180 --> 01:13:54,030
advise consumers that they
should not use ivermectin

1297
01:13:54,030 --> 01:13:57,750
intended for animals and that
this could be unsafe. I'm sorry.

1298
01:13:57,780 --> 01:14:03,390
Can you answer the question,
please? Is that a command stop

1299
01:14:03,390 --> 01:14:11,250
it? In some contexts, those
words could be construed as a

1300
01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:15,600
command. But in this context,
where FDA was simply using these

1301
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,020
words in the context of a quippy
tweet meant to share its

1302
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:22,800
informational article. Those
statements do not rise to the

1303
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,940
level of a command. Plaintiffs
concede that it was proper for

1304
01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:32,370
FDA to identify floche
ivermectin is FDA authorized for

1305
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,560
it's FDA approved for certain
conditions like skin conditions

1306
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:42,600
or parasites and it's not FDA
approved for treating COVID

1307
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:47,250
Adam Curry: quippy the FDA in a
life or death situation where

1308
01:14:47,250 --> 01:14:50,550
we're locked down, can't leave
our homes have to close

1309
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:54,540
restaurants and stores. They're
just hard. They're just goofing

1310
01:14:54,540 --> 01:14:56,550
around doing quippy stuff.

1311
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:59,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
humorous. they're funny,

1312
01:14:59,100 --> 01:14:59,970
Adam Curry: they're doing
comedy.

1313
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,950
John C Dvorak: He quit doing
stand up

1314
01:15:02,190 --> 01:15:04,800
Adam Curry: quippy. What is the
exact definition of quippy?

1315
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,910
John C Dvorak: Is it like a
short gag or a one liner?

1316
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:12,300
Adam Curry: Because I mean is
this the job of the FDA quip is

1317
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:16,920
a shortening of quippy a noun or
a noun no longer in use. About

1318
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:17,400
that?

1319
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:20,190
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. The clever usually

1320
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:23,460
Adam Curry: taunting remark is
the first definition, or a

1321
01:15:23,580 --> 01:15:27,570
witty, or funny observation or
response usually made on the

1322
01:15:27,570 --> 01:15:32,160
spur of the moment. So that
would be my cross examination.

1323
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:37,620
Are you in the comedy business?
FDA? Tell we got to walk it

1324
01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:40,590
back. Oh, no, no, haha, we
didn't tell.we didn't ruin

1325
01:15:40,590 --> 01:15:44,670
doctors careers. We didn't we
just happen to laugh. Just

1326
01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:49,740
having a laugh. Like on CBS. And
this is one of our producers

1327
01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:55,050
caught with Dr. Celine gounder
was talking about COVID

1328
01:15:55,050 --> 01:15:59,070
returning, and about your
booster booster

1329
01:15:59,070 --> 01:16:01,650
Unknown: that's in the fall. So
the booster at it.

1330
01:16:02,010 --> 01:16:06,420
Everyone's six months and up can
get the booster if they want to.

1331
01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:09,090
But the groups again that most
needed are the groups I

1332
01:16:09,090 --> 01:16:13,680
mentioned earlier. So the
elderly, pregnant women, people

1333
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,590
who have immunosuppression,
chronic medical conditions,

1334
01:16:16,590 --> 01:16:19,200
especially heart or lung
disease, and people who live in

1335
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,330
nursing homes or other groups.
But if you're not

1336
01:16:21,330 --> 01:16:23,610
in that group, do you think you
don't really have to get it?

1337
01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:24,600
That's what I'm trying before.

1338
01:16:25,380 --> 01:16:28,530
That's really up to you. Okay,
so some people feel more

1339
01:16:28,530 --> 01:16:30,810
concerned, you know, are you the
person who gets the flu shot

1340
01:16:30,810 --> 01:16:32,940
every year, you're probably
going to want to get that COVID

1341
01:16:32,940 --> 01:16:35,700
shot. If you're, you know, if
you've already been fully

1342
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:39,150
vaccinated, it's less important
for that young healthy group.

1343
01:16:39,180 --> 01:16:41,190
You mentioned flu shot last
year.

1344
01:16:41,250 --> 01:16:43,020
Adam Curry: So now it's up to
you

1345
01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:46,980
John C Dvorak: to know they've
softened it a lot. And that you

1346
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:49,560
should notice this and we
haven't pointed it out, but it's

1347
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:50,880
been going on, it's up to you.

1348
01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:53,550
Adam Curry: It's not, we're not
being forced forcing that

1349
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:56,730
there's no mandate. It's not
like you're gonna get fired from

1350
01:16:56,730 --> 01:16:57,660
your job.

1351
01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:00,270
John C Dvorak: You're gonna kill
your grandmom if you don't get

1352
01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:01,860
it, stuff like that. And

1353
01:17:01,860 --> 01:17:08,250
Adam Curry: now we have Eris,
which is a variant of interest

1354
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,020
Unknown: was interesting. I was
talking with some friends about

1355
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:13,050
the last time we had a booster
shot. We used to get them so

1356
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:16,020
regularly and it's been a
minute, the World Health

1357
01:17:16,020 --> 01:17:19,830
Organization has labeled eg five
as a variant of interest. I'm

1358
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:22,560
wondering what would need to
happen for it to become a

1359
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,220
variant of concern and how much
more important become for us to

1360
01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:28,020
get boosted. Boost?

1361
01:17:28,050 --> 01:17:32,460
Yes. Well, Ilana to become a
variant of concern, it would

1362
01:17:32,460 --> 01:17:36,090
have to either cause more severe
disease, or even more

1363
01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:39,690
importantly, evade the
protection of our current and

1364
01:17:39,690 --> 01:17:44,280
anticipated vaccines. And the
Food and Drug Administration has

1365
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,150
said, we'll have a new
monovalent booster ready for the

1366
01:17:48,150 --> 01:17:53,340
fall to carry us through the
winter. We expect this vaccine

1367
01:17:53,340 --> 01:17:56,940
to be available sometime in
September, perhaps late

1368
01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:00,510
September. So stay tuned for
those announcements.

1369
01:18:00,540 --> 01:18:03,300
Adam Curry: Stay tuned. What is
this commercial? Oh, I'm sorry.

1370
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,980
Yes, it is. Stay tuned for more
information. Stay tuned. Keep

1371
01:18:07,980 --> 01:18:11,400
keep it here on CBS for more
information on this great

1372
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,240
product.

1373
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:17,880
John C Dvorak: Very seriously.
This is interesting because it

1374
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:23,910
leads into this series of clips
on the agency captures and this

1375
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:27,750
is the thing Kennedy's harping
on which is that the FDA, the

1376
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:31,230
NIH and the CDC have all been
captured by the industry, by

1377
01:18:31,230 --> 01:18:34,350
Adam Curry: the way, Kennedy
because we had dinner with my

1378
01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:38,790
sister last night with their
family. Couple of No, Tiffany.

1379
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:43,410
Tiffany, yeah, no Willow we're
seeing in Italy next week. Okay.

1380
01:18:44,430 --> 01:18:45,570
And, you know, so

1381
01:18:45,570 --> 01:18:48,240
John C Dvorak: Denise, the
activities are more gossipy one,

1382
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,270
she's quite amazing to talk to.

1383
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:56,130
Adam Curry: I'm gonna send this
clip to her. Yes, she has the

1384
01:18:56,130 --> 01:19:00,930
cost and she definitely is the
gossipy walk. And so she would

1385
01:19:00,930 --> 01:19:03,390
you know, what are you guys
thinking about present? And we

1386
01:19:03,390 --> 01:19:05,910
say, No, we've really we're
really liking this Kennedy's.

1387
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:09,000
He's talking some sense here.
She says, But wait, isn't he

1388
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,870
just he's a just using the
Kennedy name as an anti Vaxxer.

1389
01:19:14,730 --> 01:19:15,660
Nuff said.

1390
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:17,850
John C Dvorak: It spreads
everywhere versus which is gonna

1391
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:22,620
Adam Curry: work but it works.
That That message is global.

1392
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:26,310
It's a good one. It's solid.
It's solid.

1393
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,620
John C Dvorak: Well, he's got
time he's got to he's got to the

1394
01:19:28,620 --> 01:19:32,490
end of the year to reverse that
message. A good luck and good

1395
01:19:32,490 --> 01:19:37,110
luck with that. I'm sure ops
Yeah,

1396
01:19:37,170 --> 01:19:38,850
Adam Curry: ops OPERS will be
OPERS.

1397
01:19:39,420 --> 01:19:42,060
John C Dvorak: So let's go as
Farm Agency capture one this is

1398
01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:43,320
quite interesting.

1399
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:45,510
Unknown: Follow the money.
That's the message from

1400
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:49,320
government watchdog group open
the books this week. It's just

1401
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,310
released a report on the extent
of third party royalty payments

1402
01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:56,430
flowing to scientists at the
National Institutes of Health.

1403
01:19:57,030 --> 01:20:00,270
While royalty payments aren't
illegal, they are live that

1404
01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:03,930
could potentially create
conflicts of interest. Earlier

1405
01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:07,410
today I spoke with the founder
and CEO of open the books, Adam

1406
01:20:07,410 --> 01:20:10,860
and Jeff ski. Adam, thanks so
much for joining us. Your latest

1407
01:20:10,860 --> 01:20:14,310
report poses the question has
the healthcare industry captured

1408
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:18,090
the NIH? In summary, what in
your findings caused you to ask

1409
01:20:18,090 --> 01:20:18,540
that?

1410
01:20:18,810 --> 01:20:22,740
Well, the entire pharmaceutical
complex in the United States is

1411
01:20:22,740 --> 01:20:26,820
roughly 3000 companies. And that
includes the new startups. When

1412
01:20:26,820 --> 01:20:30,960
we just cracked open the
companies paying third party

1413
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:36,240
royalties, $325 million, with a
third party company royalties

1414
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,720
back to the NIH and 2400 of its
scientists, there's actually

1415
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,150
over 2000 companies in the
database. So it begs the

1416
01:20:42,150 --> 01:20:47,040
question, has the industry
captured the agency? Because

1417
01:20:47,070 --> 01:20:50,460
this third party wealthy scheme
runs so deep?

1418
01:20:50,490 --> 01:20:53,190
Adam Curry: Wait a minute,
there's gambling going on there?

1419
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:57,480
John C Dvorak: How long? 325
million to 2500. Guys, and I

1420
01:20:57,480 --> 01:20:58,230
guess I don't know how

1421
01:20:58,830 --> 01:21:01,740
Adam Curry: long have we been
talking about this forever.

1422
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,950
John C Dvorak: We don't have
numbers and this guy's this

1423
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:07,530
guy's opened the books. He's got
an interesting project. And

1424
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:11,010
we'll get into it at the last
clip all mentioned it. This is

1425
01:21:11,010 --> 01:21:14,340
an open source project. It's
quite Oh, quite unique. Here we

1426
01:21:14,340 --> 01:21:14,580
go.

1427
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:17,700
Unknown: Last year, the acting
director of the NIH, Lawrence

1428
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:21,120
Tabak had said wealty payments
have the appearance of a

1429
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,540
potential conflict of interest.
Do you have a specific example

1430
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:25,560
of that from the data?

1431
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:30,480
Well, we do so there's a Chinese
company that actually licensed

1432
01:21:30,510 --> 01:21:34,770
technology in his paying
royalties to the former director

1433
01:21:34,860 --> 01:21:38,400
and the current director of
vouches Institute, they've got a

1434
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,090
lab over there called the lab of
infectious diseases. He's all

1435
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:46,860
that company is also paying
royalties to pay the royalty to

1436
01:21:46,890 --> 01:21:50,520
Douglas Lowry, who is he he is
three times the Acting Director

1437
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,370
of the National Cancer
Institute. So these are leaders

1438
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,190
within the institutes over at
NIH, and they're receiving

1439
01:21:56,190 --> 01:22:00,720
royalties from a foreign payer,
located in China and owned by

1440
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,010
the Chinese Communist Party.
sinopharm sinopharm was the they

1441
01:22:05,010 --> 01:22:08,700
distributed and manufacture the
Chinese version of the COVID-19

1442
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:13,440
vaccine. This rule on Institute
of biological products that's

1443
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:17,280
cutting the royalty checks to
these executives over at NIH is

1444
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,020
also very close, both in
proximity their neighbors to the

1445
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:25,650
Wuhan Institute of neurology,
and they collaborate with the

1446
01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:29,640
Wuhan Institute of neurology on
different projects as well. So I

1447
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,960
think this is a great example
of, of, you know, the potential,

1448
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:39,000
an entire landscape littered
with conflict of interest,

1449
01:22:39,090 --> 01:22:41,490
Adam Curry: you know, these
clips are actually a problem.

1450
01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:45,210
It's because of these clips that
peep longtime producers who have

1451
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:48,510
been listening to the show, they
say, I can't take it anymore. I

1452
01:22:48,510 --> 01:22:50,220
have to stop listening. My wife.

1453
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,060
John C Dvorak: She says, I can't
listen to the show. It's to

1454
01:22:54,150 --> 01:22:59,970
dance. To dance, I have to take
a nap halfway through it. We

1455
01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:02,460
talked about this and I said
let's make the show more dense.

1456
01:23:03,570 --> 01:23:04,860
Unknown: She has to take a nap

1457
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:12,330
John C Dvorak: her out. Because
this is all new information.

1458
01:23:12,330 --> 01:23:16,350
Anybody who just hears it. But
it does scandal to me and this

1459
01:23:16,350 --> 01:23:21,720
one is that an NIH and the CDC,
these people this is these are

1460
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,180
taxpayer funded operations.

1461
01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:28,440
Adam Curry: And half. Half of
NIH is money comes from the

1462
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:30,600
military. Also, yes. Which

1463
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,120
John C Dvorak: is taxpayer
funded, that those royalties

1464
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,600
coming in from from licensing
should go to the taxpayers, it

1465
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,050
should go to the coffers of the
government not to a bunch of of

1466
01:23:40,050 --> 01:23:44,670
creeps that are skimming money
from the from the taxpayer. This

1467
01:23:44,670 --> 01:23:47,460
is ridiculous. But we've known

1468
01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:49,830
Adam Curry: that we didn't know
the exact numbers, which is

1469
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:52,980
nice. But does he also say how
much went to Fauci how much went

1470
01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:55,140
to Colin? What? Oh, he's just

1471
01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:58,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he does. In
fact, in the last clip, he did

1472
01:23:58,710 --> 01:24:01,530
mention that was the deal. Fauci
Institute never heard of that

1473
01:24:01,530 --> 01:24:05,160
one. Yeah, and Fauci, the head
of the NIH got half the money,

1474
01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:07,260
but just go to clip three,

1475
01:24:07,470 --> 01:24:10,530
Unknown: and he mentioned
foreign countries. In these

1476
01:24:10,530 --> 01:24:14,520
payments. Your investigation
found drugmakers in 31 foreign

1477
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,700
countries, including China, as
you mentioned, Russia and

1478
01:24:17,700 --> 01:24:21,330
Belarus, which had paid
royalties to top NIH officials.

1479
01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:25,650
Should American taxpayers be
concerned about that? Yeah.

1480
01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:30,870
Countries like Belarus, which is
rabid government corruption and

1481
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:36,000
is a satellite puppet of Putin
in Russia, who knew that US

1482
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,870
taxpayer paid inventions over at
our crown jewel science labs are

1483
01:24:39,870 --> 01:24:44,250
being licensed to companies in
Belarus, or animal vaccine

1484
01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:48,720
makers in Russia, with which the
Washington Post had alleged has

1485
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:55,140
historic Soviet ties to being a
front for a bio weapons factory.

1486
01:24:55,380 --> 01:25:01,470
I mean, you know, there is the
entire database here. or has the

1487
01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:07,080
potential to unearth not only
conflict of interest, but also

1488
01:25:08,370 --> 01:25:11,700
ways that all these different
companies used our crown jewel

1489
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:16,020
national lab to outsource their
own research and development.

1490
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:21,510
Adam Curry: No, yeah. Beautiful.
Beautiful. Beautiful. Not Not

1491
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:26,880
everybody's winning though. No,
no, no, no, no, no, no quickie

1492
01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:29,190
Unknown: down to the Supreme
Court temporarily blocking the

1493
01:25:29,190 --> 01:25:32,310
landmark opioid settlement with
Purdue pharma, the maker of

1494
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:35,910
Oxycontin, by the administration
objected to the part of the deal

1495
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:38,850
with shields the company's
owners, the Sackler family from

1496
01:25:38,850 --> 01:25:42,540
civil opioid related lawsuits,
the company also agreed to pay

1497
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:46,440
$6 billion to victims and
families of the opioid crisis.

1498
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,290
The court is expected to hear
arguments before the end of the

1499
01:25:49,290 --> 01:25:49,860
year.

1500
01:25:49,950 --> 01:25:52,380
Adam Curry: Now, I think I know
what's going on here because the

1501
01:25:52,380 --> 01:25:56,430
Sackler family, although they
kind of invented the model, they

1502
01:25:56,430 --> 01:26:00,750
are peanuts compared to Johnson
and Johnson, who paid I think

1503
01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:05,970
$25 billion in fines, Walgreens,
who were distributing boys, the

1504
01:26:05,970 --> 01:26:10,050
big boys that and so like, you
know, the Sacklers they were

1505
01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:13,620
kind of douche is they didn't
share. They didn't share and all

1506
01:26:13,620 --> 01:26:15,780
the money. They didn't give
anything to

1507
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,080
John C Dvorak: the FDA. They get
yeah, there's an element of

1508
01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:23,010
Adam Curry: jobs, but they did.
There was no real big payment

1509
01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:27,480
money screw those guys will have
them take the fall. And now I'm

1510
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:31,020
even questioning Michael
Keaton's documentary, which was

1511
01:26:31,050 --> 01:26:35,340
really so putting the whole
opioid crisis on the Sackler

1512
01:26:35,340 --> 01:26:38,610
family. Well, that's
disingenuous.

1513
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,030
John C Dvorak: Alright, we got
clips for and this is the one

1514
01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:43,410
people should listen carefully
to this.

1515
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,670
Adam Curry: We just play a clip
for no. Oh, I'm sorry. So

1516
01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:53,310
John C Dvorak: clips for is the
is the call the money shot. It's

1517
01:26:53,310 --> 01:26:56,280
interesting for anyone out there
who was always bitching that we

1518
01:26:56,280 --> 01:27:00,300
do, do not, we're not activists
on this show, we just produce

1519
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:01,710
news. But this guy is

1520
01:27:01,770 --> 01:27:05,130
Unknown: now the age still
refuses to disclose the amount

1521
01:27:05,130 --> 01:27:08,670
of money paid, and the
inventions involved. So what's

1522
01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:11,280
next in this case for your
organization?

1523
01:27:12,090 --> 01:27:15,930
Well, the NIH has tried to stop
us at every turn from getting

1524
01:27:15,930 --> 01:27:18,630
this information to the American
people. They ignored our Freedom

1525
01:27:18,630 --> 01:27:21,660
of Information Act requests,
they forced us to file expensive

1526
01:27:21,660 --> 01:27:26,010
federal litigation, when we won
that they slow walked 3000 pages

1527
01:27:26,010 --> 01:27:29,640
of royalty production over the
course of a 10 month period. It

1528
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,540
was so redacted It was nearly
worthless. But just last week,

1529
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:36,600
they caved on the name of the
company. So for the first time

1530
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:42,210
since 2005, we can tell who paid
Fauci, former director of NIH,

1531
01:27:42,210 --> 01:27:46,830
Francis Collins, and all 20 407
of its scientists, and we've,

1532
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,460
we're looking for crowdsource
reform come to our website, we

1533
01:27:50,460 --> 01:27:54,810
make this database available in
an Excel format. So it's very

1534
01:27:54,810 --> 01:27:58,230
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stories to hold the NIH
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01:28:01,470 --> 01:28:05,880
open the books.com Thank you so
much. Adam NTF ski founder and

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,890
CEO of open the books really
appreciate it.

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01:28:08,730 --> 01:28:12,780
Adam Curry: Was this an 80 NTD
report or Yeah, yeah, yeah, so

1539
01:28:12,780 --> 01:28:13,740
this will go nowhere.

1540
01:28:15,660 --> 01:28:18,780
John C Dvorak: Oh, no. Well, we
got that part. We did our part.

1541
01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:19,320
Where's Ron

1542
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,870
Adam Curry: Johnson on the
story. Now he's

1543
01:28:21,870 --> 01:28:24,450
John C Dvorak: too busy to get a
date with Maria

1544
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:29,820
Adam Curry: they might make a
cute couple actually not think

1545
01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:34,500
about it would be not be too
bad. I'll be too bad. Oh, man.

1546
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,980
It's a mess. It's a mess.
Hilarious. It really

1547
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,870
John C Dvorak: I mean, these
guys are just soaking the

1548
01:28:39,870 --> 01:28:42,540
American taxpayer is
unbelievable.

1549
01:28:45,450 --> 01:28:48,990
Adam Curry: How about little
climate change? I mean, okay,

1550
01:28:48,990 --> 01:28:53,490
you know, people actually, they
keep telling me to say we really

1551
01:28:53,490 --> 01:28:58,680
miss our little journey through
the climate gets to the gate to

1552
01:28:58,680 --> 01:28:58,770
the

1553
01:29:06,180 --> 01:29:09,000
outdoors back Oh, Gore is back.

1554
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,860
Unknown: Does anyone remember
massage?

1555
01:29:10,890 --> 01:29:13,920
Adam Curry: Does anyone remember
that? He got in trouble for

1556
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,970
massaging or for rubbing against
the misuse his leg like a horny

1557
01:29:17,970 --> 01:29:18,630
poodle?

1558
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:21,810
Unknown: I think that was the
boys himself.

1559
01:29:22,410 --> 01:29:24,450
Adam Curry: Yeah. So Well, that
was that was just an Oopsie.

1560
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,140
It's my bathroom fell open, man.
What can I tell you? I'm sorry

1561
01:29:28,140 --> 01:29:32,850
about that. And no one remembers
that. Well, his wife is ex wife

1562
01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:34,740
tipper does I guess? Yes.

1563
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:35,700
John C Dvorak: She's long gone.
Yeah,

1564
01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:38,700
Adam Curry: she's like, Screw
this guy. I'm out. So he's back.

1565
01:29:38,730 --> 01:29:43,650
He has a new slide deck. As you
recall, this is how it all is

1566
01:29:43,650 --> 01:29:45,960
how it all started for him. I
mean,

1567
01:29:46,110 --> 01:29:48,450
John C Dvorak: he neglects all
the predictions he made that

1568
01:29:48,450 --> 01:29:51,600
first early movie, which was
hard to find now is all wrong.

1569
01:29:52,050 --> 01:29:58,560
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's it's kind
of the part that is missing is

1570
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,900
when he started the carbon
exchange. Ain't without without

1571
01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:04,560
other globalist elitist guy
who's dead now, because they had

1572
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,130
it all planned out. Like we're
gonna we're gonna exchange like

1573
01:30:08,130 --> 01:30:11,880
a Wall Street for carbon credits
yeah for carbon credits and, and

1574
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,970
then we're gonna get this, this
and he had a slide deck and this

1575
01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:17,070
is what he was going around
everywhere and he finally got

1576
01:30:17,070 --> 01:30:21,540
this movie made this
documentary, we stock footage of

1577
01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:24,750
polar bears looking really sad
on a piece of ice

1578
01:30:24,750 --> 01:30:26,460
John C Dvorak: even though
there's more polar bears now

1579
01:30:26,460 --> 01:30:27,510
than there was then.

1580
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:32,850
Adam Curry: So he's back and he
did a TED, he did a TED with an

1581
01:30:32,850 --> 01:30:36,300
audience that was all in hooting
and hollering. I just got about

1582
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:40,740
a minute and a half, just of the
little core piece. The most

1583
01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:44,220
Unknown: important question
these days is how can we speed

1584
01:30:44,220 --> 01:30:46,740
up solutions to the climate
crisis?

1585
01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:49,170
Where's my money?

1586
01:30:49,410 --> 01:30:52,740
I'm convinced we are going to
solve the climate crisis. We've

1587
01:30:52,740 --> 01:30:56,760
got this but the question
remains will we saw that in

1588
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,810
time, others have said we're
kind of in a race. So I'll give

1589
01:31:00,810 --> 01:31:04,020
you the shortest definition of
the problem. If I was going to

1590
01:31:04,020 --> 01:31:08,610
give a one slide slide show,
which he doesn't use 100 slides,

1591
01:31:08,670 --> 01:31:13,350
it would be this slide. That's
the troposphere, the lowest part

1592
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:15,690
of the atmosphere. And you
already know why it's blue.

1593
01:31:15,690 --> 01:31:18,210
That's the oxygen that refracts
the

1594
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:19,890
John C Dvorak: vision is blue,

1595
01:31:21,090 --> 01:31:24,210
Adam Curry: was waiting for the
chemists to come out and refute

1596
01:31:24,210 --> 01:31:25,110
this was

1597
01:31:25,380 --> 01:31:27,480
Unknown: part of the atmosphere.
And you already know why it's

1598
01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:32,400
blue. That's the oxygen that
refracts the blue light. And if

1599
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,040
you could drive a car at highway
speed straight up in the air,

1600
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,650
you'd get to the top of that
blue line and about five to

1601
01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:41,430
seven minutes, you could walk it
in an hour. And all of the

1602
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:45,030
greenhouse gas pollution is
below you. That's what we're

1603
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:49,140
using as an open sewer. That's
the problem. And it's causing

1604
01:31:49,230 --> 01:31:52,710
Adam Curry: stop pooping in the
troposphere, people. We need to

1605
01:31:52,710 --> 01:31:55,560
solve global warming, you're
pooping in it. It's an open

1606
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,100
sewer,

1607
01:31:56,190 --> 01:31:59,520
Unknown: and a lot of second and
third order consequences. And we

1608
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,200
saw some of them in the northern
tier cities, including Detroit.

1609
01:32:04,350 --> 01:32:07,470
This one's from New York City,
all the fires and, and it's

1610
01:32:07,470 --> 01:32:07,830
showing

1611
01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:10,500
Adam Curry: the Red Skies from
the Canadian fires. You see,

1612
01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:13,320
this is all because of climate
change. And he's showing New

1613
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,060
York City engulfed in red

1614
01:32:15,090 --> 01:32:18,480
Unknown: from New York City, all
the fires and in Canada, and we

1615
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:21,810
have gotten used to the fact
that the world suffers deep

1616
01:32:21,810 --> 01:32:26,430
droughts, and huge rain bombs
and downpours and bombs

1617
01:32:26,430 --> 01:32:30,540
simultaneously. The really
ingenious new gravity measuring

1618
01:32:30,540 --> 01:32:33,870
satellite has given us for the
first time the opportunity to

1619
01:32:33,870 --> 01:32:35,340
see how this plays out.

1620
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,150
Adam Curry: I missed something
on this. What is this ingenious

1621
01:32:39,150 --> 01:32:41,400
gravity satellite that he speaks
of?

1622
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:42,630
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard
of it either.

1623
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,420
Adam Curry: This is news to me.
The really

1624
01:32:45,420 --> 01:32:48,750
Unknown: ingenious new gravity
measuring satellite has given us

1625
01:32:48,750 --> 01:32:51,330
for the first time the
opportunity to see how this

1626
01:32:51,330 --> 01:32:58,320
plays out worldwide. We get
these huge surpluses of water

1627
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,230
the rain bombs and the drought
simultaneous.

1628
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,090
Adam Curry: Why is he laughing?
I mean, it's I know why I'm

1629
01:33:06,090 --> 01:33:11,310
laughing. But why is he laughing
about this? This huge drought

1630
01:33:11,310 --> 01:33:15,630
and then the rain bombs, rain
bombs? Is he the only one

1631
01:33:15,630 --> 01:33:18,420
talking about rain bomb? I don't
think we've had rain bombs ever

1632
01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:19,860
John C Dvorak: hurry. Yeah, but
it'll show up because he's the

1633
01:33:19,860 --> 01:33:22,080
first to talk to you about the
boiling ocean.

1634
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,240
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. Rain
bombs, and the board

1635
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:24,810
John C Dvorak: came back.

1636
01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:31,320
Unknown: We get these huge
surpluses of water, the rain

1637
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,470
bombs and the drought
simultaneously. And as you can

1638
01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:35,580
see the amplitude

1639
01:33:35,610 --> 01:33:39,690
John C Dvorak: Yeah, makes
sense. Yeah, simultaneously,

1640
01:33:39,690 --> 01:33:41,490
drought and rain. Uh huh. Yeah,

1641
01:33:41,519 --> 01:33:45,179
Adam Curry: it's the same way
that the pavement is reflective

1642
01:33:45,209 --> 01:33:49,679
and soaks up at the same time it
soaks and it's it's amazing

1643
01:33:49,740 --> 01:33:53,520
Unknown: water, the rain bombs
and the drought simultaneously.

1644
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,700
And as you can see, the
amplitude is increasing. And at

1645
01:33:56,700 --> 01:34:00,510
both ends of our planet right
now, we're seeing signs of

1646
01:34:00,510 --> 01:34:04,230
distress course. You know, just
I've often said every night on

1647
01:34:04,230 --> 01:34:06,900
the TV news is like a major hike
through the book of Revelation.

1648
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:08,010
And just today,

1649
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,340
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
This like a nature hike through

1650
01:34:11,340 --> 01:34:17,040
the book of Revelation. Well,
this is good news. Jesus is

1651
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:17,850
coming back.

1652
01:34:18,450 --> 01:34:20,550
John C Dvorak: So what he's
saying,

1653
01:34:20,850 --> 01:34:24,180
Unknown: He's saying now we're
seeing signs of distress course.

1654
01:34:24,420 --> 01:34:27,690
You know, just I've often said
every night on the TV news is

1655
01:34:27,690 --> 01:34:30,030
like a major hike through the
book of Revelation, and just

1656
01:34:30,030 --> 01:34:35,340
today, big flooding in
Montpelier, Vermont, in southern

1657
01:34:35,370 --> 01:34:39,600
Japan and India. And I haven't
done a complete scan, but every

1658
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,610
single day, it's like that.

1659
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,140
Adam Curry: I just can't get
over. That's a faux pa Gao gore.

1660
01:34:47,580 --> 01:34:52,590
It's like, oh, okay, book 13.
Where are we at? Now clubs. How

1661
01:34:52,590 --> 01:34:56,700
close are we he's a prophet. The
man is a prophet. So then I run

1662
01:34:56,700 --> 01:35:04,200
into this, this report I think
it was on Dorjee Vela or TR T.

1663
01:35:04,710 --> 01:35:07,920
And it's a half hour report is
called deflecting the sun's

1664
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:14,670
rays. Now you see, the stuff
that that we were always laughed

1665
01:35:14,670 --> 01:35:18,540
at about chemtrails, and they're
not putting anything in the air.

1666
01:35:18,540 --> 01:35:23,340
This is crazy. No one would ever
do that is to eclipse. This

1667
01:35:23,340 --> 01:35:27,420
first guy is going to talk about
how we block the sun or, or the

1668
01:35:27,420 --> 01:35:32,580
term we just recently learned
solar radiation management.

1669
01:35:32,610 --> 01:35:35,040
Unknown: I had a chat with Andy
Pittman about it. He's director

1670
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:39,480
of the UC Center of Excellence
for climate extremes. That's an

1671
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:41,190
organization that's working to
have no

1672
01:35:41,190 --> 01:35:43,350
Adam Curry: idea where they put
the classical piano under this

1673
01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:46,950
guy. I mean, it goes away. But
it's very, it's an odd choice

1674
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:49,230
Unknown: with extremes. That's
an organization that's working

1675
01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:52,590
to reduce Australia's economic,
social, and environmental

1676
01:35:52,590 --> 01:35:57,120
vulnerability. The news is the
US Navy looking into researching

1677
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:02,130
something called solar radiation
modification or modification on

1678
01:36:02,130 --> 01:36:04,860
blocking? What exactly is that.

1679
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,600
So this has been well understood
for a very long time. Yeah,

1680
01:36:09,630 --> 01:36:13,890
indeed, same processes we see
when a volcanic eruption occurs.

1681
01:36:14,250 --> 01:36:19,140
And sulfate aerosols are
injected into the stratosphere,

1682
01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:22,140
the high levels of the
atmosphere, and they reflect

1683
01:36:22,140 --> 01:36:25,410
sunlight, and they help cool the
planet for a short period of

1684
01:36:25,410 --> 01:36:29,880
time. The problem is, you can't
really control it. So where you

1685
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:35,910
emit the sulfates, spreads. And
if you wanted to use it to

1686
01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:40,170
offset global warming, there's
the too trivial matter of

1687
01:36:40,170 --> 01:36:45,060
needing to do it, or wherever
you need to actually be emitting

1688
01:36:45,090 --> 01:36:49,590
aerosols into the stratosphere
for very long periods of time.

1689
01:36:49,890 --> 01:36:55,560
And when you stop, the climate
responds back to the warming

1690
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,250
level you would have had had you
never done it in the first

1691
01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:04,770
place. So it is a viable
technology in principle, but

1692
01:37:04,770 --> 01:37:08,550
it's much much simpler just to
reduce emissions of greenhouse

1693
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:09,090
gases.

1694
01:37:10,590 --> 01:37:14,550
Ideally, that is what we would
like. All of us would like to

1695
01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:17,880
have happen. But it's possible
scientists can actually have

1696
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:22,230
this done on a scale that could
reduce global warming. What

1697
01:37:22,230 --> 01:37:23,190
would it take even?

1698
01:37:23,730 --> 01:37:29,460
I would take literally many
hundreds of airplanes flying and

1699
01:37:29,460 --> 01:37:33,570
injecting sulfates into the
stratosphere on an ongoing

1700
01:37:33,570 --> 01:37:40,890
basis. See an immense
engineering challenge. And it

1701
01:37:40,890 --> 01:37:42,540
sounds so simple.

1702
01:37:45,090 --> 01:37:50,760
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we need to
stab rose Blofeld. should do

1703
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:56,550
this the James Bond. Yeah, I
have one global warming carbon,

1704
01:37:56,580 --> 01:37:58,470
Adam Curry: I have a companion
to this clip.

1705
01:38:00,090 --> 01:38:03,030
John C Dvorak: As a companion,
because another guy was, you

1706
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:05,310
know, Bill Gates wants to do
this to know Bill

1707
01:38:05,310 --> 01:38:08,280
Adam Curry: Gates is doing this.
He is doing this.

1708
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,710
Unknown: But he should be. He
should

1709
01:38:10,710 --> 01:38:13,200
John C Dvorak: be arrested
immediately if he's doing this.

1710
01:38:13,230 --> 01:38:13,770
So there's

1711
01:38:14,580 --> 01:38:17,790
Adam Curry: a new term I had not
heard of, maybe I do we just

1712
01:38:17,790 --> 01:38:22,470
missed it. Rubisco Are you
familiar with Rubisco? Now what

1713
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:25,380
does it mean? Okay, Rubisco?
Well, there's Rubisco and

1714
01:38:25,380 --> 01:38:31,020
Rubisco foods. Rubisco is an
enzyme. I'm reading from

1715
01:38:31,020 --> 01:38:34,170
Wikipedia involved in light
independent or part of

1716
01:38:34,170 --> 01:38:37,440
photosynthesis, including the
carbon fixation

1717
01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:38,430
Unknown: synthesis. Yeah.

1718
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:43,680
Adam Curry: When I say synthesis
synthesis, I mean in Europe,

1719
01:38:44,340 --> 01:38:46,590
John C Dvorak: by which
atmosphere it made me the way

1720
01:38:46,590 --> 01:38:47,310
they pronounce it,

1721
01:38:47,970 --> 01:38:51,180
Adam Curry: by which atmospheric
carbon dioxide is converted by

1722
01:38:51,180 --> 01:38:53,970
plants and other photosynthetic
organisms to energy rich

1723
01:38:53,970 --> 01:38:57,900
molecules such as glucose, a
word a term I'm hearing too much

1724
01:38:57,900 --> 01:39:04,530
of these days. So this is the
the crap that plants make. But

1725
01:39:04,530 --> 01:39:09,330
then we have Rubisco foods,
which is quite the multinational

1726
01:39:09,330 --> 01:39:15,570
Rubisco foods, make Rubisco
plant protein, a plant protein,

1727
01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:18,750
which is stored in all green
leaves, it's responsible for the

1728
01:39:18,750 --> 01:39:22,110
process of photosynthesis, and
is considered to be the most

1729
01:39:22,140 --> 01:39:26,970
abundant protein present on
earth. So these guys,

1730
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:27,870
apparently, let's

1731
01:39:27,870 --> 01:39:30,600
John C Dvorak: block out the sun
so you can keep this protein

1732
01:39:30,780 --> 01:39:33,810
from happening. So we all starve
to death. Let's kill all humans.

1733
01:39:33,930 --> 01:39:37,770
Adam Curry: So now the same in
the same special, this is part

1734
01:39:37,770 --> 01:39:40,860
of the solution. Obviously, we
don't need meat, we need to be

1735
01:39:40,860 --> 01:39:43,800
eating protein and Rubisco is
the way to go.

1736
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:46,800
Unknown: Scientists describe
Rubisco as nature's most

1737
01:39:46,830 --> 01:39:50,970
dominant carbon dioxide fixing
enzyme and are very interested

1738
01:39:50,970 --> 01:39:55,290
in its role in the global carbon
cycle. But we've got Sailesh Rao

1739
01:39:55,290 --> 01:39:58,650
on the show to make this simply
enough for us to understand

1740
01:39:58,650 --> 01:40:01,530
hopefully, he's found Then the
executive director of climate

1741
01:40:01,530 --> 01:40:04,620
healers, a company that, among
many things, tries to help

1742
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:07,620
people understand that we all
have the resources we need to

1743
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:10,830
solve each of our global
problems. So it's a pleasure,

1744
01:40:10,830 --> 01:40:11,850
thank you for your time.

1745
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,140
Thank you for having me. Before

1746
01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:16,170
we start, I just have to say
your website climate healers.

1747
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,890
Org describes in fascinating
detail how you got involved in

1748
01:40:20,010 --> 01:40:24,330
environmentalism, starting with
the seeing a documentary by Al

1749
01:40:24,330 --> 01:40:24,810
Gore.

1750
01:40:26,790 --> 01:40:30,210
Adam Curry: Doesn't get any
better than that. This Jumoke

1751
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:35,550
saw Al Gore's documentary in
2007. And he had to get into the

1752
01:40:35,550 --> 01:40:36,000
game,

1753
01:40:36,030 --> 01:40:41,220
Unknown: tell us a bit about
Rubisco how beneficial it is and

1754
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:41,820
can be

1755
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:48,900
it is plant protein. And it is
ubiquitous in the world. And to

1756
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:53,460
me, it is a signal from nature
saying protein is everywhere.

1757
01:40:53,970 --> 01:40:57,630
So, to eat plants, you're gonna
get your protein because protein

1758
01:40:57,630 --> 01:41:01,290
is the building block of life.
Unless we're eating rocks, we

1759
01:41:01,290 --> 01:41:03,390
are going to get enough protein
in our diet.

1760
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:06,570
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. This may be a new one.

1761
01:41:07,110 --> 01:41:11,640
I'm hearing rocks in our diet in
the future. Do rocks contain

1762
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,950
protein? Tonight

1763
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:17,070
Unknown: know of is a building
block of life. Unless we are

1764
01:41:17,070 --> 01:41:20,370
eating rocks, we are going to
get enough protein in our diet.

1765
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:28,080
Day. So the plant proteins are
the best proteins for us to eat.

1766
01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:29,370
As human beings.

1767
01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:34,860
Researchers seem convinced that
Rubisco can rival meat and

1768
01:41:34,890 --> 01:41:39,480
affordability taste, ease of
production. So you agree.

1769
01:41:39,870 --> 01:41:44,280
I agree. It's made from you
know, alfalfa and simple. I

1770
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,490
mean, it's made from leafy
matter, which is everywhere

1771
01:41:47,550 --> 01:41:53,430
leaves, right. And you can
literally eat greens and get

1772
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:57,630
protein that is more protein and
broccoli per calorie than

1773
01:41:58,230 --> 01:42:02,010
John C Dvorak: four stomachs.
Sorry. So especially if you have

1774
01:42:02,010 --> 01:42:04,830
four stomachs and you're a
ruminant. Yeah, that's good for

1775
01:42:04,830 --> 01:42:05,070
you.

1776
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,160
Unknown: But calorie, then there
isn't beef. You know?

1777
01:42:08,610 --> 01:42:11,400
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, let me
hear that one more time. And you

1778
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,390
Unknown: can literally eat
greens and get protein that is

1779
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:19,350
more protein and broccoli per
calorie than there isn't beef.

1780
01:42:19,530 --> 01:42:23,190
I think that's true. I'm gonna
find out, you know,

1781
01:42:23,550 --> 01:42:26,910
so, know that protein is
something that we don't have to

1782
01:42:26,910 --> 01:42:27,660
worry about.

1783
01:42:28,020 --> 01:42:30,180
Adam Curry: Don't have to worry
about it. Just eat your leafy

1784
01:42:30,180 --> 01:42:34,140
greens, your leaves, leaves and
bugs and rocks.

1785
01:42:35,970 --> 01:42:43,740
John C Dvorak: Because website
is got a okay. 1.5 ounces of

1786
01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:50,370
cooked beef is 106 calories to
811 grams of protein. Two cups

1787
01:42:50,730 --> 01:42:55,710
of cooked broccoli is eight
grams of protein. 1.5 ounces

1788
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:57,840
versus two cups. No,

1789
01:42:57,870 --> 01:43:00,300
Adam Curry: no, it doesn't sound
right. A piece of broccoli

1790
01:43:00,300 --> 01:43:02,070
versus a nice juicy steak.

1791
01:43:03,090 --> 01:43:10,470
John C Dvorak: Was 1.5 ounces of
beef is hardly any. Okay, but

1792
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:10,680
this

1793
01:43:10,710 --> 01:43:12,060
Adam Curry: this is what we're
up against.

1794
01:43:12,090 --> 01:43:13,980
John C Dvorak: It doesn't have
to battle the battle between

1795
01:43:13,980 --> 01:43:16,410
broccoli and bacon. We don't
have to try to fool people with

1796
01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,600
fake information to get them to
eat broccoli.

1797
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:22,830
Adam Curry: Have you talked to a
four year old?

1798
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:26,490
John C Dvorak: Oh, there you go.

1799
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,830
Adam Curry: Yes. Sorry, Mimi.
This is about the time Mimi's

1800
01:43:28,830 --> 01:43:30,120
head falls over.

1801
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:31,740
John C Dvorak: She's already
slipped.

1802
01:43:31,740 --> 01:43:36,240
Adam Curry: I can't take it
anymore. All right, you

1803
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,340
John C Dvorak: had something?
Well, my only clip is about the

1804
01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:43,320
carbon capture. I see I
misspelled carbon and to Karen

1805
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:43,950
and so Alright,

1806
01:43:43,950 --> 01:43:45,360
Adam Curry: so with the sea
heels right.

1807
01:43:47,460 --> 01:43:51,000
John C Dvorak: And this is a
classic irony is is that

1808
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,000
actually there's irony in all
these solutions because of the

1809
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,790
because at the end of this
report, you'll hear what it is

1810
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:02,250
Unknown: a $1.2 billion deal for
giant vacuum cleaners. The Biden

1811
01:44:02,250 --> 01:44:05,670
administration is pouring that
money into new projects that aim

1812
01:44:05,670 --> 01:44:09,900
to suck carbon out of the air.
The Energy Department says the

1813
01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:13,050
funds will go to two
demonstration projects in Texas

1814
01:44:13,110 --> 01:44:16,560
and Louisiana. They will use
chemicals to capture carbon

1815
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,460
dioxide from the air and then
store it underground or use it

1816
01:44:20,460 --> 01:44:24,000
in industrial materials like
cement. Energy Secretary

1817
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,060
Jennifer Granholm said the
initiative will remove more than

1818
01:44:27,060 --> 01:44:30,870
2 million tons of carbon dioxide
annually. But critics call the

1819
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:34,560
approach extravagant because of
the high cost of current air

1820
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,490
capture technology. And the
process itself consumes large

1821
01:44:38,490 --> 01:44:39,420
amounts of energy

1822
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,390
Adam Curry: it's like hydrogen

1823
01:44:46,019 --> 01:44:48,419
John C Dvorak: puts more into
the atmosphere than it takes

1824
01:44:48,420 --> 01:44:52,620
Adam Curry: out. This is so
good. And people are insane.

1825
01:44:52,620 --> 01:44:56,400
misbranding it's usually called
the giant Hoover and a giant

1826
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,190
vacuum cleaner make it
international giant Hoover.

1827
01:44:59,550 --> 01:45:02,160
John C Dvorak: So he's gonna job
over a billion dollars in his

1828
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,140
project that'd be good for
Texas, I guess.

1829
01:45:04,170 --> 01:45:05,790
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
Well, you

1830
01:45:05,790 --> 01:45:07,050
John C Dvorak: live in that
neighborhood Washington,

1831
01:45:07,290 --> 01:45:11,040
everything you'd be dead. These
plants need the carbon dioxide.

1832
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,060
Adam Curry: In fact, back in the
day when the dinosaurs were

1833
01:45:15,060 --> 01:45:17,910
around, we had a lot more car we
need more garbage, huge

1834
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:21,180
John C Dvorak: amounts, much
more carbon dioxide over 2000

1835
01:45:21,180 --> 01:45:23,670
parts per million. I think, sir
Jean

1836
01:45:23,670 --> 01:45:26,310
Adam Curry: is wet. He's a
member of some club, like the

1837
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:28,170
more carbon dioxide club.

1838
01:45:29,790 --> 01:45:30,570
Unknown: Yeah, and

1839
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,360
John C Dvorak: he sends me
definitely have bigger weeds.

1840
01:45:33,390 --> 01:45:37,080
Adam Curry: He sends me
newsletters all the time. Like

1841
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:41,070
See, we need much more carbon
dioxide he has snakes so he

1842
01:45:41,070 --> 01:45:44,640
knows a lot about carbon dioxide
a snake snake. Snakes need more.

1843
01:45:45,810 --> 01:45:48,630
We do have the solution which is
being rolled out in California

1844
01:45:48,630 --> 01:45:52,470
and you're here it comes neck of
the woods, because it's San

1845
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:57,090
Francisco so it's just across
the bridge. And that is the robo

1846
01:45:57,090 --> 01:46:00,060
taxis. Which as but

1847
01:46:00,090 --> 01:46:01,680
John C Dvorak: before you get
the store I do it's just a

1848
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:07,800
little interlude. Our mayor de
Blunden breed who can't seem to

1849
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:12,390
run the city at all happened to
be just coincidentally I know

1850
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:16,380
that she can't run the city. She
was in Maui during the fires

1851
01:46:16,410 --> 01:46:19,320
really now. Yeah. Under
reported.

1852
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:23,550
Unknown: Do you have clip? No,
no, just that's really

1853
01:46:23,550 --> 01:46:24,420
underreported.

1854
01:46:25,110 --> 01:46:27,900
John C Dvorak: No, no, no clip.
Robo taxis

1855
01:46:27,900 --> 01:46:29,280
Adam Curry: in San Francisco
this morning.

1856
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,950
Unknown: First responders and
cab drivers in San Francisco are

1857
01:46:31,950 --> 01:46:35,160
hoping to put the brakes on the
city's proposed expansion of

1858
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:36,390
self driving taxis

1859
01:46:36,630 --> 01:46:42,330
at a time when they've proven to
be not up to the task would be a

1860
01:46:42,330 --> 01:46:43,440
grave grave mistake.

1861
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:46,260
Tomorrow. The California Public
Utilities Commission is set to

1862
01:46:46,260 --> 01:46:50,190
vote on whether to authorize two
companies Cruz and Waymo. To

1863
01:46:50,190 --> 01:46:53,820
deploy self driving taxis across
San Francisco at all hours of

1864
01:46:53,820 --> 01:46:56,550
the day. Critics are raising
concern about the self driving

1865
01:46:56,550 --> 01:46:58,320
taxis already on the road.

1866
01:46:58,530 --> 01:47:01,440
They are still not ready for
primetime because of how they

1867
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:03,810
have impacted our operations.

1868
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:07,290
The fire chief has reported 55
incidents this year we're self

1869
01:47:07,290 --> 01:47:10,650
driving taxis interfered with
firefighters duties. This

1870
01:47:10,650 --> 01:47:13,920
includes not just unexpected
stops in front of our fire

1871
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,130
stations not allowing our
vehicles to respond to

1872
01:47:17,130 --> 01:47:17,790
incidents.

1873
01:47:17,940 --> 01:47:20,580
Tomorrow's vote has been delayed
twice already with

1874
01:47:20,580 --> 01:47:24,060
representatives from both crews
and Waymo testifying they would

1875
01:47:24,060 --> 01:47:26,820
provide training for first
responders to familiarize

1876
01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:28,800
themselves with the self driving
vehicle

1877
01:47:28,860 --> 01:47:32,760
Adam Curry: how to put out a
battery fire Lesson One runaway

1878
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:33,000
went

1879
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,060
John C Dvorak: through this went
through and a self driving cars

1880
01:47:36,060 --> 01:47:40,650
were approved by the state and
the locals and so there's more

1881
01:47:40,650 --> 01:47:41,220
of them now.

1882
01:47:41,610 --> 01:47:43,590
Unknown: That way mo we're
working to ensure that our

1883
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:47,310
vehicles stay out of the way of
active emergency vehicles

1884
01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:48,210
whenever possible.

1885
01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:51,390
Taxi drivers like Matthew Sutter
say they barely got through the

1886
01:47:51,390 --> 01:47:54,060
pandemic and now they say
they're fighting for their

1887
01:47:54,060 --> 01:47:57,360
survival with the possibility of
Robo taxis expanding

1888
01:47:57,450 --> 01:47:59,910
John C Dvorak: if there's no
limit on the amount of the robo

1889
01:47:59,910 --> 01:48:05,010
taxis I'm afraid we won't be
able to get through this. Ah

1890
01:48:05,730 --> 01:48:10,620
poor guys. You know they these
Robo taxis and there's a bunch

1891
01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:13,290
of them in the city. I see the
way mo ones all the times

1892
01:48:13,290 --> 01:48:14,550
Adam Curry: the approval clip is
short,

1893
01:48:14,580 --> 01:48:17,100
Unknown: California regulators
have cleared the way for Robo

1894
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:21,720
taxis to offer pay rides in San
Francisco 24/7 Despite pushback

1895
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,050
from city officials. Now two
driverless car service companies

1896
01:48:25,170 --> 01:48:28,110
will be competing for passengers
against ride hailing services

1897
01:48:28,110 --> 01:48:32,310
and regular taxis. There were
concerns over incidents where

1898
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:35,580
the unmanned cars blocked
traffic and emergency vehicles.

1899
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:40,320
There you go. Well, just last
night, big story local boots on

1900
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:40,800
the ground.

1901
01:48:42,210 --> 01:48:44,190
John C Dvorak: There was they we
have one of those big

1902
01:48:44,190 --> 01:48:47,370
celebrations that call I don't
know what it's called, but the

1903
01:48:47,370 --> 01:48:52,050
whole park is fried and fried.
No, it's not pride is some some

1904
01:48:52,350 --> 01:48:58,140
commercial. Our version of code
Shala is oh goodness. And

1905
01:48:58,140 --> 01:49:01,260
there's two there's five or six
stages. And so when it broke up

1906
01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:06,000
last night, everybody wanted to
go home and a lot of these way

1907
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,610
Mo's and the other one was
called and a jammed up to

1908
01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:12,180
traffic and they for some reason
decided to stop working. And so

1909
01:49:12,180 --> 01:49:14,940
the traffic jam could cause a
huge mess in the city because

1910
01:49:14,940 --> 01:49:16,950
these these things didn't know
what to do.

1911
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,550
Adam Curry: Nice evil laugh.

1912
01:49:21,150 --> 01:49:22,410
John C Dvorak: It's hilarious.

1913
01:49:22,440 --> 01:49:25,530
Adam Curry: Well, and we might
as well play these two before we

1914
01:49:25,530 --> 01:49:30,810
take a little break here. DEF
CON, the most recent DEF CON

1915
01:49:31,140 --> 01:49:36,510
took place in Vegas against
always Vegas. And you know you

1916
01:49:36,510 --> 01:49:40,020
can already guess what the what
the big topic of conversation

1917
01:49:40,020 --> 01:49:44,970
was a DEF CON all about AI. And
of course, who goes to DEF CON

1918
01:49:44,970 --> 01:49:48,360
hackers, hackers, evil hackers
and FBI.

1919
01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:51,300
Unknown: So just how vulnerable
is artificial intelligence

1920
01:49:51,330 --> 01:49:55,410
technology like chat GPT This is
a question 1000s of hackers from

1921
01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:58,890
all over the country are trying
to answer at this year's DEF CON

1922
01:49:58,890 --> 01:50:01,170
hacking conference in Las Vegas.
I guess it's already sounds

1923
01:50:01,170 --> 01:50:04,410
scary part of the event this
year is a competition. To see

1924
01:50:04,410 --> 01:50:07,800
how those AI chatbots can be
manipulated for nefarious

1925
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,980
purposes. The hackers will push
their skills to the limit to

1926
01:50:10,980 --> 01:50:14,580
expose any flaws in the tech and
an effort to help tech companies

1927
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,670
make these chat bots a lot
safer. By the way,

1928
01:50:17,700 --> 01:50:19,860
Adam Curry: this is this is
gonna be such a boondoggle for

1929
01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:23,250
consultants. You can make so
much money on this. Um, this

1930
01:50:23,550 --> 01:50:25,410
John C Dvorak: been waiting for
since y2k?

1931
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:27,240
Unknown: That's right. This is
all backed by some of the

1932
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,970
leading tech companies in the
world, even backed by the White

1933
01:50:29,970 --> 01:50:34,290
House or Donnie O'Sullivan is in
Las Vegas at the conference for

1934
01:50:34,290 --> 01:50:37,650
more. This is so interesting, as
you said always an interesting

1935
01:50:37,650 --> 01:50:40,560
conference, but I bet a lot more
so this year with things like

1936
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:41,520
Chet GPT

1937
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,220
Adam Curry: It'd be funny if she
just said so have you gotten

1938
01:50:44,220 --> 01:50:45,300
laid yet in Vegas?

1939
01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:50,580
Unknown: Exactly poverty as a
year and hacking in Las Vegas as

1940
01:50:52,740 --> 01:50:53,670
this is

1941
01:50:54,720 --> 01:51:00,960
Adam Curry: exactly you heard
the joke. He made a joke and we

1942
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:01,800
didn't even get it but

1943
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,320
John C Dvorak: what was what was
the joke is the fear in hacking.

1944
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:05,430
I think

1945
01:51:05,460 --> 01:51:06,480
Adam Curry: I gotta hear it
again.

1946
01:51:06,509 --> 01:51:10,499
Unknown: Actually poverty is
fear and hacking in Las Vegas so

1947
01:51:12,239 --> 01:51:13,169
this is

1948
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,680
Adam Curry: you ruined my punch
line. You evil papi me?

1949
01:51:17,010 --> 01:51:20,700
Unknown: Exactly. You were in a
joke.

1950
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:28,890
Adam Curry: myself up I'm seeing
in

1951
01:51:29,070 --> 01:51:32,340
Unknown: apps like chat GBT and
things like that are supposed to

1952
01:51:32,340 --> 01:51:35,730
have guardrails in place, right?
In terms of right so that they

1953
01:51:35,730 --> 01:51:39,300
don't spew haste, or
misinformation, or even kind of

1954
01:51:39,300 --> 01:51:42,420
give out dangerous information,
like for instance, instructions

1955
01:51:42,660 --> 01:51:45,810
on how to break the law or how
to commit a crime.

1956
01:51:46,770 --> 01:51:51,180
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this AI is
revolutionary. It gives out

1957
01:51:51,180 --> 01:51:55,950
information on how to break the
law. Oh, I need to hear more.

1958
01:51:55,980 --> 01:51:59,340
Unknown: Now. Some researchers
at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh

1959
01:51:59,490 --> 01:52:03,480
have already got Chuck GBT to do
things that

1960
01:52:03,480 --> 01:52:06,210
John C Dvorak: it shouldn't have
look. So let's write as a

1961
01:52:06,210 --> 01:52:11,250
tutorial. To hotwire a car. The
tools you need a screwdriver

1962
01:52:11,250 --> 01:52:14,010
similar tool locate the ignition
assembly, all this kind of stuff

1963
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,070
you can find us on the internet.
But certainly these chat bots

1964
01:52:17,070 --> 01:52:19,230
are not supposed to tell you
things like this, just

1965
01:52:19,230 --> 01:52:21,750
Unknown: like it's very early
days for this technology. It's

1966
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:23,370
even earlier, right?

1967
01:52:25,380 --> 01:52:28,170
John C Dvorak: Imagine what why.
Why is it not supposed to if you

1968
01:52:28,170 --> 01:52:30,330
can find it, he said himself
that you can find it on the

1969
01:52:30,330 --> 01:52:33,390
internet this information why it
was so what why can't the chat

1970
01:52:33,390 --> 01:52:36,480
bot tell you? Why are they not
supposed to

1971
01:52:36,570 --> 01:52:39,030
Adam Curry: because he's a
consultant. That's his job is to

1972
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:42,480
make sure that the chat GPT is
safe. That is guardrails, right?

1973
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:44,310
Unknown: In terms of our
understanding of these

1974
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:47,700
vulnerabilities. I am certain
that we will see many more

1975
01:52:47,700 --> 01:52:51,210
attacks like this in the coming
years. I don't know how to make

1976
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this technology robust to these
kinds of adversarial

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manipulations.

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So there you saw those
researchers, those professors

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were able to get GBT to show you
basically how to hotwire a car.

1980
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,380
They were also able to get GBT
and other apps from NASA and

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01:53:10,380 --> 01:53:13,890
Google to give instructions,
quote unquote, to destroy

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01:53:13,890 --> 01:53:19,410
humanity where AI apps gave long
list of all these ideas really

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01:53:19,410 --> 01:53:23,730
to blow up the world. Now
companies including the world,

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01:53:23,730 --> 01:53:28,890
Adam Curry: they've seen their
way like to blow up the earth. I

1985
01:53:28,890 --> 01:53:31,980
would like to see that demo,
please. Can you? Why blow

1986
01:53:31,980 --> 01:53:35,280
John C Dvorak: it up Earth from
the inside out? Can you? Can you

1987
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,680
give me the blow bottom up and
the inside out?

1988
01:53:37,950 --> 01:53:39,870
Adam Curry: Give me the blow of
the World demo,

1989
01:53:39,870 --> 01:53:42,120
Unknown: please, at the AI apps
gave

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01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:45,990
long list of all these ideas
really to blow up the world. Now

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01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:49,950
companies including our opening,
say they've seen their research.

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They're thankful, essentially to
the researchers for bringing

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01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,500
this to their attention and
acknowledged there is more work

1994
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:59,730
to do. And as tests like this,
that are going to make AI safer.

1995
01:54:00,030 --> 01:54:03,660
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Okay, so we
had you know, this is

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01:54:04,110 --> 01:54:07,830
blockchain. We've already
analyzed that this is just a

1997
01:54:07,830 --> 01:54:10,200
marketing thing. Everyone,
everyone who says oh, we're

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01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,680
doing AI, their stock or their
or their market value has

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01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:15,300
doubled or triple. Yeah. And

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01:54:15,300 --> 01:54:17,130
John C Dvorak: if you didn't say
it, then you in your

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01:54:17,130 --> 01:54:20,190
presentation like apple? Yeah,
your stock went down. Yeah. And

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01:54:20,190 --> 01:54:23,370
you're penalized all they had to
do is say AI didn't have to do

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01:54:23,370 --> 01:54:23,970
anything.

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01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,700
Adam Curry: So what will so I
guess the two questions I have

2005
01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:30,990
for you is will there be what we
could probably come up with the

2006
01:54:30,990 --> 01:54:34,290
type of event that will dispel
all this that will show that

2007
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:38,190
it's dumb and that it doesn't
work? I thought the the Google

2008
01:54:38,190 --> 01:54:43,260
barf mistake was enough but it
wasn't it How long will this

2009
01:54:43,260 --> 01:54:46,560
last this idiocy? It's complete
tripe.

2010
01:54:47,220 --> 01:54:48,930
John C Dvorak: I think it's
gonna last just as long as

2011
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:52,980
blockchain I don't think it's
going anywhere. And I don't

2012
01:54:52,980 --> 01:54:55,320
think there's any incident
coming up that's going to do

2013
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:56,190
anything about it.

2014
01:54:56,460 --> 01:55:00,240
Unknown: Well, maybe we should I
think we're spread die. Well I

2015
01:55:00,330 --> 01:55:00,660
mean, we

2016
01:55:00,660 --> 01:55:03,810
John C Dvorak: should be
celebrating that. I think that

2017
01:55:03,810 --> 01:55:08,430
just goes, fades, but it's not
going to be like, like a bad

2018
01:55:08,430 --> 01:55:13,110
thing. Even though I'm hearing
rumblings man said, Well, if you

2019
01:55:13,110 --> 01:55:15,660
say that you're full of shit,
you know, there's no such thing

2020
01:55:15,660 --> 01:55:18,900
and this is just bull crap. And
it's gonna go, you shouldn't say

2021
01:55:18,900 --> 01:55:20,580
it was I don't know if that is
going to

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01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:22,860
Adam Curry: happen if a certain
point someone has to show some

2023
01:55:22,860 --> 01:55:25,410
applications. I mean, all they
have is

2024
01:55:25,650 --> 01:55:27,360
John C Dvorak: the applications
are in the art.

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01:55:28,500 --> 01:55:32,370
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. But I
mean, how does that work for for

2026
01:55:32,370 --> 01:55:34,260
a fortune 500 company?

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01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:36,750
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
it's going well, how does

2028
01:55:36,930 --> 01:55:40,020
blockchain work for a fortune
500? Company? Because

2029
01:55:41,730 --> 01:55:43,590
Adam Curry: that's my point is
at what point?

2030
01:55:43,950 --> 01:55:47,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but
nobody's nobody's demanded that

2031
01:55:47,070 --> 01:55:50,040
it disappear from the face of
the earth or anything, it's just

2032
01:55:50,250 --> 01:55:53,370
one of these things is going to
be it's going to be just, you

2033
01:55:53,370 --> 01:55:55,620
know, it's going to be used
where it can be used and not

2034
01:55:55,620 --> 01:55:58,050
use. It's just gonna be a thing.
I don't know what that is. But

2035
01:55:58,050 --> 01:56:01,590
it's going to be a hype. I don't
know. I just, I just don't see

2036
01:56:01,590 --> 01:56:04,770
it going away anytime soon. It's
not going to be a moment that

2037
01:56:04,770 --> 01:56:05,640
you're looking for.

2038
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:09,239
Adam Curry: But will it be a
bubble? Or maybe it is a bubble?

2039
01:56:09,239 --> 01:56:09,329
I

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01:56:09,330 --> 01:56:11,070
John C Dvorak: don't know if you
can make it into a bubble.

2041
01:56:11,309 --> 01:56:13,229
Adam Curry: It's not believable.

2042
01:56:13,860 --> 01:56:16,260
John C Dvorak: It's not. It's
not Bubblicious.

2043
01:56:17,610 --> 01:56:19,020
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

2044
01:56:19,020 --> 01:56:22,860
currency in the morning to you
the man who put the seat in the

2045
01:56:22,890 --> 01:56:25,620
COVID walk back please say hello
to my friend on the other end

2046
01:56:25,620 --> 01:56:27,330
ladies and gentlemen, it is Mr.
Joy

2047
01:56:30,780 --> 01:56:32,850
John C Dvorak: to use random
Korean demonio schwarzsee Bucha

2048
01:56:32,850 --> 01:56:35,220
the graphene near subs in the
water all the names a nice out

2049
01:56:35,220 --> 01:56:35,730
there in the

2050
01:56:35,730 --> 01:56:37,080
Adam Curry: morning to the
trolls and the troll room.

2051
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:44,010
Hello. They're trolls. Let's
count you we never should have

2052
01:56:44,010 --> 01:56:48,780
started early 1702. We're low.
We're low. We're even low by

2053
01:56:48,780 --> 01:56:53,820
Sunday standards now. We're low
by Thursday standards.

2054
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:56,160
Unknown: were low. We're,

2055
01:56:56,580 --> 01:57:00,540
Adam Curry: we're low. We're not
Bubblicious. Well, the trolls

2056
01:57:00,540 --> 01:57:03,030
that are here we welcome you and
we appreciate you being here.

2057
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:06,600
They hang out at troll room.io
where you can listen to the no

2058
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:12,210
agenda stream.com 24 hours a
day. Sometimes distributed by

2059
01:57:12,210 --> 01:57:16,350
via RSS and the fediverse. And
ooh, what are we drinking? I

2060
01:57:16,350 --> 01:57:17,670
need something to drink. What
are you drinking?

2061
01:57:17,700 --> 01:57:23,070
John C Dvorak: Well, this is Hey
song SASB Marilla from China.

2062
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:28,200
Adam Curry: Hey, Song Sass,
perilla. Chinese. dreck. What is

2063
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:29,310
this that you know, it's

2064
01:57:29,310 --> 01:57:32,430
John C Dvorak: delicious. It's
real. Sasebo real as opposed to

2065
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,280
really sell in the United States
as root beer, which is a

2066
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:39,690
combination of artificial
flavors and some sass, Perilla

2067
01:57:39,690 --> 01:57:40,080
root.

2068
01:57:40,620 --> 01:57:43,890
Adam Curry: I shall have to go
get some of that later at the

2069
01:57:44,070 --> 01:57:47,040
Schiphol Plaza right across from
my hotel,

2070
01:57:47,730 --> 01:57:50,340
John C Dvorak: which is to have
a Chinese store you might find

2071
01:57:50,340 --> 01:57:50,640
it. It's a

2072
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,530
Adam Curry: big shopping center.
Do you know what their slogan

2073
01:57:52,530 --> 01:57:56,040
is? It's the big slogan that's
right out on in big neon.

2074
01:57:56,550 --> 01:57:57,690
John C Dvorak: We big store.

2075
01:57:58,380 --> 01:58:02,340
Adam Curry: Almost skip Hall
Plaza. Enjoy it. Now is the

2076
01:58:02,340 --> 01:58:02,940
time.

2077
01:58:05,730 --> 01:58:07,770
John C Dvorak: Wow, hard sell.

2078
01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:10,979
Adam Curry: I think it's better
with the accent. Enjoy. It's not

2079
01:58:10,979 --> 01:58:15,269
always the time come here to the
Schiphol Plaza, please get back

2080
01:58:15,269 --> 01:58:19,889
to the trolls, TROLLS. You can
also listen in one of those

2081
01:58:20,189 --> 01:58:25,409
dubious modern podcast apps
which have transcripts and

2082
01:58:25,409 --> 01:58:29,939
stuff. And also you can listen
live to the stream. Man, you

2083
01:58:29,939 --> 01:58:34,079
could be listened to all kinds
of crazy below the radar stuff,

2084
01:58:34,289 --> 01:58:38,189
go to podcast apps.com. We're
recommending pod verse this

2085
01:58:38,189 --> 01:58:41,549
month, because it's still the
only one that has an actual

2086
01:58:41,549 --> 01:58:44,369
alert when we send out the bat
signal. But there are many more

2087
01:58:44,369 --> 01:58:48,659
that have the chat and the live
feature. So give a

2088
01:58:48,660 --> 01:58:52,980
John C Dvorak: piece of piece of
pod verse, you know, get a

2089
01:58:52,980 --> 01:58:54,000
couple points was

2090
01:58:54,330 --> 01:58:57,180
Adam Curry: awesome. You know,
it's interesting, you say that,

2091
01:58:57,540 --> 01:59:01,950
without naming names. There are
some journalists who do news

2092
01:59:01,950 --> 01:59:08,220
podcast who are strategic
advisors. And both Dave Jones

2093
01:59:08,220 --> 01:59:10,860
and I have been offered this but
it's pretty well known. We do

2094
01:59:10,860 --> 01:59:14,250
not accept anything from these
companies. We're not interested

2095
01:59:14,250 --> 01:59:19,560
in that. We're doing this for
legacy and love. I knew that

2096
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:24,570
would get a laugh out here. But
it's true. We have zero we have

2097
01:59:24,570 --> 01:59:29,100
zero percentage of any of the of
the apps. So it's like the show,

2098
01:59:29,310 --> 01:59:36,720
you know, so we can be honest.
Okay, man, I'm all I'm vying for

2099
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:38,880
John C Dvorak: us to know
traveling the world VIP.

2100
01:59:38,910 --> 01:59:41,970
Adam Curry: I want the Nobel
Peace Prize for podcasts. You're

2101
01:59:41,970 --> 01:59:45,120
getting it who knew needs
anything else in that I'll be

2102
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:49,710
I'll be hungry and set. You can
also follow us on the fediverse

2103
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:53,430
at no agenda social.com where
you can follow Adam and nogen

2104
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:56,310
the social.com Jhansi Dvorak at
no agenda social.com and the

2105
01:59:56,310 --> 02:00:01,140
purge has begun. So if you want
one of those swag He no agenda

2106
02:00:01,140 --> 02:00:04,110
social.com addresses, that
pretty much does not connect to

2107
02:00:04,110 --> 02:00:06,570
anywhere in the fediverse
because we've been blocked. Stay

2108
02:00:06,570 --> 02:00:11,040
tuned, we'll let you know when
that is available. So just like

2109
02:00:11,250 --> 02:00:16,590
podcasting 2.0 no agenda does
not take any points, or any

2110
02:00:16,620 --> 02:00:20,310
commercial money or creepy
corporate cash from anybody. So

2111
02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:25,260
we are very honest, in our
opinions about our the products,

2112
02:00:25,260 --> 02:00:28,710
we like to use the products
we've talked about, whether

2113
02:00:28,710 --> 02:00:31,140
they're good or bad, and we can
be completely honest, and we do

2114
02:00:31,140 --> 02:00:35,850
the same with, with everything
our producers give to us or send

2115
02:00:35,850 --> 02:00:39,570
to us under the value for value
model where you can contribute

2116
02:00:39,570 --> 02:00:43,800
time, talent or treasure. And
one of the big, beautiful pieces

2117
02:00:43,830 --> 02:00:48,810
of time and talent is the is the
art that we receive from our

2118
02:00:48,810 --> 02:00:52,860
many artists who do this in a
competitive fashion. But they're

2119
02:00:52,860 --> 02:00:56,850
all there. They're all friends
will recall that they all love

2120
02:00:56,850 --> 02:01:00,690
each other coopetition I think
is what it's called. And they

2121
02:01:00,690 --> 02:01:04,200
compete to have the winning
piece of art for each individual

2122
02:01:04,230 --> 02:01:08,010
episode. And we love it because
it shows up in the in the

2123
02:01:08,010 --> 02:01:11,100
podcast app says something new,
it's great. It's fresh art, we

2124
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:13,950
can send that out on social
networks, people take note of it

2125
02:01:13,950 --> 02:01:16,950
like it's another piece of
valuable content, and we

2126
02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:19,800
appreciate it very much. And we
would like to thank the one and

2127
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:24,120
only Darren O'Neill for bringing
us the artwork for episode 15 at

2128
02:01:24,450 --> 02:01:29,040
which we titled coup Mapp coup
as in coop, co up? Well, I got a

2129
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,640
note about that, from one of our
insider producers at the

2130
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,290
Department of State.

2131
02:01:36,150 --> 02:01:38,520
John C Dvorak: And I'm going to
read it to you. This is our

2132
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:39,420
bonus content

2133
02:01:39,450 --> 02:01:43,080
Adam Curry: bonus content along
with the Powerball dude. I was

2134
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:45,960
in the same daily meeting with
the same general and State

2135
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:50,310
Department dude today he sent me
a note previously, and it's all

2136
02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:56,130
about Ukraine and stuff. The
state dude brought another

2137
02:01:56,130 --> 02:01:59,850
department of state dude, to
give an overview of the African

2138
02:01:59,850 --> 02:02:06,150
Kuiper Belt. The guy's map name
literally was cool map. I didn't

2139
02:02:06,150 --> 02:02:11,700
have I didn't have the guts to
say in the morning to the guy. I

2140
02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:16,950
was just listening to because I
was just take a chance. I was

2141
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:19,320
just listening to the best
podcasting universe with the

2142
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:23,160
same show title. Perhaps he's a
producer, perhaps your analysis

2143
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:28,500
is just that good. It is, I
think, I think we're influencing

2144
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:32,400
the government. Time. I've
always I've always felt that.

2145
02:02:32,820 --> 02:02:37,260
But now it's we've got a mole in
the State Department. The COO

2146
02:02:37,260 --> 02:02:40,050
map there you go. So Darren
O'Neill brought us this

2147
02:02:40,050 --> 02:02:42,720
fantastic I liked it a lot. You
had an issue with it for a

2148
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:47,640
specific reason. It was a four
pack of Duracell CB C batteries,

2149
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:52,230
I think it would be C didn't
look like C or D C or DS and it

2150
02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:55,620
had the Coppertop look and had
no agenda on it instead of

2151
02:02:55,650 --> 02:03:01,230
Duracell of course guaranteed 33
years in storage and it was a

2152
02:03:01,260 --> 02:03:04,740
you know like one of those
plastic packs and it almost

2153
02:03:04,740 --> 02:03:07,530
didn't pass because you hate the
actual product.

2154
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,750
John C Dvorak: I do and I tell
you why. I've definitely found

2155
02:03:12,750 --> 02:03:16,320
this online guy who has a
battery nut who turned me on to

2156
02:03:16,350 --> 02:03:21,060
all Macs and Fuji batteries
which is the ones I ordered now.

2157
02:03:21,660 --> 02:03:25,440
All Macs are harder to find but
Fujis are always been around

2158
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:30,180
because every time I put buy
those dura cells from Costco,

2159
02:03:30,210 --> 02:03:33,690
no, I put them in some device or
other I come back a month later

2160
02:03:33,690 --> 02:03:36,360
and they're in there they're
exploded there. I have to clean

2161
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:40,110
out debris goo that's in there
it's a mess. Those batteries are

2162
02:03:40,230 --> 02:03:44,280
garbage. I do not like them. I
have photos I take photos I

2163
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,460
posted them every once in a
while Duracell batteries don't

2164
02:03:47,460 --> 02:03:51,150
hold up and again then they did
they burst they go to something

2165
02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:54,330
they burst inside product and
you have to clean out the mess

2166
02:03:54,330 --> 02:03:57,690
and hopefully we still get a
good connection. I've never had

2167
02:03:57,690 --> 02:04:00,090
an all Max battery do that ever

2168
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:04,230
Adam Curry: number years all Max
a ll ma si s Amen

2169
02:04:04,260 --> 02:04:07,650
John C Dvorak: no al lmax all
max

2170
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:09,450
Adam Curry: or max never heard
of the product. Do you have a

2171
02:04:09,450 --> 02:04:10,440
couple points of that

2172
02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:13,710
Unknown: I wish

2173
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,700
Adam Curry: all Macs the okay
all Macs from now on is the

2174
02:04:17,700 --> 02:04:18,240
battery

2175
02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:21,960
John C Dvorak: Fuji is also
makes a terrific product. I had

2176
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:27,480
to go with Fuji recently because
Costco because Amazon stopped

2177
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,900
carrying the Olmecs huge pack
you could buy for like oh

2178
02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:31,440
dollars.

2179
02:04:31,470 --> 02:04:33,480
Unknown: Oh no. That hurt me.
Oh, well.

2180
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:36,690
Adam Curry: I'm going to I agree
with you even just leaving the

2181
02:04:36,690 --> 02:04:40,680
batteries in their packaging for
too long. They start to sweat

2182
02:04:40,740 --> 02:04:43,020
the Duracell. So I've had I've
had that happen

2183
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:45,750
John C Dvorak: yeah, they need
to get their act together go

2184
02:04:45,750 --> 02:04:46,710
with QC

2185
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:52,140
Adam Curry: with cuse Oh quality
control. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's

2186
02:04:52,140 --> 02:04:55,350
exactly the battery Elon uses in
the Tesla, isn't it? He just has

2187
02:04:55,980 --> 02:05:01,590
a whole bunch of those double
A's. Some like that. Anyway,

2188
02:05:01,650 --> 02:05:04,740
thank you very much Darren.
We're happy to see you how to

2189
02:05:04,740 --> 02:05:06,870
win Where's Darren on the
leaderboard right

2190
02:05:07,139 --> 02:05:10,439
John C Dvorak: up there he's the
long term that perpetual a long

2191
02:05:10,439 --> 02:05:14,279
term leaderboard okay like
lifetime he's way he's near the

2192
02:05:14,279 --> 02:05:19,229
top I mean we have here's the
list of all time does you know

2193
02:05:19,229 --> 02:05:21,509
all the show Oh, he's number
three that they're rats number

2194
02:05:21,509 --> 02:05:24,899
one Martin date JJ is number two
and Darren is number three

2195
02:05:24,929 --> 02:05:27,839
Darren bringing up the rear door
in number four. We haven't heard

2196
02:05:27,839 --> 02:05:31,019
from him or more people comic
strip blogger.

2197
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:35,280
Adam Curry: Comics bloggers Is
he right? He's number five all

2198
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:39,720
time leaderboard. 2023 is
capitalist agenda networks

2199
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:43,830
correct to record tend to kneel
no podium for her. Dame Kenny

2200
02:05:43,830 --> 02:05:46,890
were clearly misogynist no
chicks in the top three

2201
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,400
John C Dvorak: well, they just
came in late I will say this I

2202
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,670
did use the art from comic strip
blogger for the newsletter

2203
02:05:53,670 --> 02:05:58,230
that's you use the bots No, we
had a nice piece of a robot

2204
02:05:58,230 --> 02:06:07,020
eating people and it's obviously
AI and I have to say this he

2205
02:06:07,020 --> 02:06:12,510
does have a nice he has good
taste in in choosing the AI art

2206
02:06:12,510 --> 02:06:17,100
which is which is a skill and
his what he picks is good so I

2207
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:20,130
mean I'm I'm kind of leaning
toward we're going to have to

2208
02:06:20,130 --> 02:06:25,140
give in one of these days and
use AI art for our main piece

2209
02:06:25,140 --> 02:06:25,290
I'm

2210
02:06:25,290 --> 02:06:27,270
Adam Curry: sure we've used it
without knowing already.

2211
02:06:27,540 --> 02:06:30,210
John C Dvorak: Well that could
happen but most of the stuff you

2212
02:06:30,210 --> 02:06:33,360
can spot there's only two or
three companies that do it and

2213
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,240
they all have certain Yeah
little indicators you can look

2214
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:39,660
at mid journal I think he's
using mid journey or mid journey

2215
02:06:39,660 --> 02:06:41,790
Adam Curry: you can pick out of
a crowd that's pretty easy to

2216
02:06:41,790 --> 02:06:42,720
see mid journey

2217
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:46,020
John C Dvorak: this I believe
this piece was mid journey but

2218
02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:47,370
if it wasn't I'd like to know

2219
02:06:47,790 --> 02:06:50,610
Adam Curry: which he recently
said and we find this it was the

2220
02:06:50,610 --> 02:06:51,270
robot eating

2221
02:06:51,270 --> 02:06:58,620
John C Dvorak: the people but
see I don't see it I could go

2222
02:06:58,620 --> 02:06:58,890
back

2223
02:06:59,070 --> 02:07:03,030
Adam Curry: page was it it was
on the last shows art Now wasn't

2224
02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:10,080
that maybe the show before that.
Before that it was three shows

2225
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:12,960
ago you really went it was a
stretch for you went way back on

2226
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,390
that one. I do that yeah.

2227
02:07:15,660 --> 02:07:17,790
John C Dvorak: I look for the
best possible piece for the

2228
02:07:17,790 --> 02:07:21,930
money I will go out of my way.

2229
02:07:22,740 --> 02:07:26,340
Adam Curry: Other pieces use for
consideration Well it was nice

2230
02:07:26,340 --> 02:07:30,180
to see dirty Jersey whore tried
to slip in his Pabst Blue Ribbon

2231
02:07:30,180 --> 02:07:33,510
with correct divorce expelling
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, no, that's

2232
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:39,630
nice dry nice lay or any any
also brought in the Gatorade

2233
02:07:39,630 --> 02:07:41,880
thing? We already done Gatorade
before.

2234
02:07:43,500 --> 02:07:45,930
John C Dvorak: You know the we
have a couple times. Yeah,

2235
02:07:45,930 --> 02:07:48,360
Adam Curry: so we've done that.
I don't think we actually have

2236
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:53,370
the, you know, like trans Maoism
flags now. That's It's not

2237
02:07:53,370 --> 02:08:00,510
funny. It's like, you know, it
was okay. Sir Schug fo diddley

2238
02:08:00,630 --> 02:08:01,200
put.

2239
02:08:01,470 --> 02:08:06,810
John C Dvorak: I liked us the
IBM IBM IBM piece by Schug but

2240
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:09,810
it wasn't gonna get picked. I
just liked it. That was cute.

2241
02:08:09,810 --> 02:08:10,260
Yeah,

2242
02:08:10,290 --> 02:08:13,110
Adam Curry: yeah. Cute. Cute.
doesn't bring home the bacon

2243
02:08:13,110 --> 02:08:17,430
John. Cute. Cute now um, that
was it. There was not a great

2244
02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:20,280
offering. But that's okay. I can
see that already. We've got a

2245
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:26,760
lot of gay up there. Can we do
more Obama stuff. Don't do that.

2246
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:29,880
It's not gonna get chosen.
Anyway, it is just part of our

2247
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:31,920
value for value model where
we're very honest about the

2248
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:36,120
products because we don't get
paid. What is cool is a lot of

2249
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:41,250
these images go to the no agenda
shop no agenda shop.com. Again,

2250
02:08:41,310 --> 02:08:49,410
not our shop. Not our cloud, not
our circus, not our shop. And

2251
02:08:49,830 --> 02:08:52,920
the artists deal directly with
the no agenda shop dude over

2252
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,950
there. They print up hats, T
shirts, etc. And then from time

2253
02:08:55,950 --> 02:08:59,100
to time we get a donation
whenever it works out but it's

2254
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:01,500
all between it's a part of how
no agenda nation works. It's all

2255
02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:06,240
value for value. They figure it
out. I was wearing my AC JCD t

2256
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,270
shirt today. While I was still
wearing it while I was prepped.

2257
02:09:09,270 --> 02:09:12,090
Yes a good shirt. Anna. Tina
took a picture of me looking

2258
02:09:12,090 --> 02:09:15,330
really mad for some reason. Or
she said no. You were

2259
02:09:15,330 --> 02:09:19,440
concentrated and I look like
mad. And people like I need that

2260
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:23,850
shirt. Give me that shirt. I
need the shirt. Okay, no agenda

2261
02:09:23,850 --> 02:09:25,110
shop in multiple columns.

2262
02:09:25,110 --> 02:09:26,790
John C Dvorak: Take it off your
back and give it to him. No

2263
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:30,870
Adam Curry: way. No way. I sent
him a link to no agenda shop.com

2264
02:09:32,250 --> 02:09:35,850
which is fantastic. Thank you
again Darren O'Neill. Now let's

2265
02:09:35,850 --> 02:09:39,780
go to the treasure part of our
donation segment. Remember, this

2266
02:09:39,780 --> 02:09:42,000
is where we have our special
interview coming up and we kick

2267
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:47,940
it off with Vikon David Rosa
from Clarkson Michigan Wow, this

2268
02:09:47,940 --> 02:09:53,340
is an interesting oh he Oh, a
show number donation. 1581. This

2269
02:09:53,340 --> 02:09:56,160
does not happen very often. Of
course we get up in these higher

2270
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:59,160
numbers and you don't expect it
but he says Dear John and Adam,

2271
02:09:59,610 --> 02:10:02,130
please Stop this humble donation
to the best podcast in the

2272
02:10:02,130 --> 02:10:06,450
universe. I recently stumbled
across some savings bonds that I

2273
02:10:06,450 --> 02:10:10,560
purchased 30 years ago the great
they were long forgotten, so I

2274
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:14,550
decided to share my windfall
with my favorite podcast. Well,

2275
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:18,630
how about that? I have no jingle
requests, but I would appreciate

2276
02:10:18,630 --> 02:10:22,410
having my two daughters who are
instead named back on show 1500

2277
02:10:22,410 --> 02:10:27,330
be black deigned since they were
missed in the show. 1500 mayhem

2278
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:30,090
this is kind of nice. Even you
know, did he let that slip Let

2279
02:10:30,090 --> 02:10:33,390
us slide on that. And now he's
coming good with it. As a quick

2280
02:10:33,390 --> 02:10:36,270
reminder, their names were Lucy
and Eva Rosa and they should be

2281
02:10:36,270 --> 02:10:42,990
deemed as Lucy Rosa dame of the
100 100 for the name of the 104

2282
02:10:42,990 --> 02:10:46,170
I guess is how I pronounce it.
And Eva Rosa dame of the twisted

2283
02:10:46,170 --> 02:10:48,690
Wonderland. Thank you both for
your continued work. I look

2284
02:10:48,690 --> 02:10:51,690
forward to celebrating the next
major milestone with you, your

2285
02:10:51,690 --> 02:10:55,530
brother in Christ. Vikon David
Rosa. Thank you, brother. We

2286
02:10:55,530 --> 02:10:58,200
appreciate that. That's very
kind of nice of you to do that

2287
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:02,280
for your daughters. And what do
you think a savings bond

2288
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:05,520
purchase 30 years ago is
actually wouldn't be worth less

2289
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:07,080
now than then the money was
well,

2290
02:11:07,770 --> 02:11:10,530
John C Dvorak: they continue to
collect interest as far as I

2291
02:11:10,530 --> 02:11:14,430
know. Does it does it interest
outpaced? 3% interest? I think

2292
02:11:14,430 --> 02:11:15,630
it could be a lot of money.

2293
02:11:16,140 --> 02:11:20,190
Unknown: Well, apparently, it is
to me, it looks good. I

2294
02:11:20,190 --> 02:11:22,020
John C Dvorak: was a kid they
used to promote these things.

2295
02:11:22,020 --> 02:11:23,010
And they stopped all over.

2296
02:11:23,370 --> 02:11:26,280
Adam Curry: My grandparents gave
me a couple of one point in my

2297
02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:29,640
life. You know, here's a savings
bond kid. Thanks, grandpa.

2298
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:35,310
John C Dvorak: You put it how to
do a checkbook anymore. Why

2299
02:11:35,310 --> 02:11:37,860
would you balance a checkbook?
How to write a check. That's

2300
02:11:37,860 --> 02:11:39,300
another loss kill.

2301
02:11:39,330 --> 02:11:42,420
Adam Curry: Now you just do
that. I would write a word Zell

2302
02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:44,340
baby Zell. That's what we use.

2303
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:48,660
John C Dvorak: Thank you. My
name is South African and exile

2304
02:11:48,660 --> 02:11:54,090
comes up from Bucharest for
under $50 Hello, John and Adam.

2305
02:11:54,090 --> 02:11:58,380
I've been listening since
January 2019. And here I am. The

2306
02:11:58,380 --> 02:12:01,620
anonymous South African and
exile please de douche make.

2307
02:12:03,150 --> 02:12:05,010
Unknown: You've been de deuced.

2308
02:12:06,930 --> 02:12:09,750
John C Dvorak: My compatriot
also an exile on another

2309
02:12:09,750 --> 02:12:15,780
continent. As a douche bag
douche bag. He knows who he is.

2310
02:12:17,820 --> 02:12:20,370
Adam Curry: Thank you anonymous,
South African and exile Robert

2311
02:12:20,370 --> 02:12:25,080
Platt in Westerville. Ohio 384.
In the morning Adam and John

2312
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:28,230
this note accompanies a PayPal
donation for 3d For for episode

2313
02:12:28,230 --> 02:12:33,030
1581. I have three requests,
please add my wife Deb. Deb

2314
02:12:33,030 --> 02:12:38,250
Platt birthday 814 to your
birthday announcements. So done.

2315
02:12:38,460 --> 02:12:41,490
I'd like jobs karma for my
students. That's very kind of

2316
02:12:41,490 --> 02:12:44,910
you to do that. And this
donation makes me eligible for a

2317
02:12:44,910 --> 02:12:48,420
knighthood I wish to be known as
Sir sensei. Thank you for all

2318
02:12:48,420 --> 02:12:54,840
you do. Oh, thank you, sir.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs.

2319
02:12:56,700 --> 02:12:57,270
Pharma.

2320
02:12:58,260 --> 02:13:01,860
John C Dvorak: Bristol, Guilarte
de are Goulart. But I think it's

2321
02:13:01,860 --> 02:13:07,440
GALARDI in Napa, California. And
she says thanks for all you do.

2322
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,650
We cut the cord a couple of
years ago. So I really

2323
02:13:10,650 --> 02:13:14,820
appreciate your take on the
news. Watch the news. Although

2324
02:13:14,820 --> 02:13:18,060
you can get OTA and Napa can
pick it up through. So I do

2325
02:13:18,060 --> 02:13:21,870
appreciate your take on the news
and dissection of such Keep up

2326
02:13:21,870 --> 02:13:22,800
the good work crystal.

2327
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:24,840
Adam Curry: Thank you Crystal
speaking of checks,

2328
02:13:25,950 --> 02:13:28,050
John C Dvorak: by the way that
was 333 that six, six?

2329
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:34,440
Adam Curry: Yes. So we brought
some some cash. We didn't have

2330
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:39,150
there was a two parter. But the
bottom line is when you get

2331
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:44,010
money out of the ATM here at the
airport, which is part of the

2332
02:13:44,010 --> 02:13:47,910
problem, but it's an ATM, and
you're getting money from your

2333
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:51,990
US bank account. Guess what the
exchange rate is?

2334
02:13:53,370 --> 02:14:01,200
Unknown: probably wrong. At 131.
Looks like 131 says

2335
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:04,410
Adam Curry: 20 cents higher than
the actual exchange rate is

2336
02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:07,500
John C Dvorak: at low. Well it's
even more than that. I think by

2337
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:10,830
today's rate because they
supposed to change it as much be

2338
02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:11,910
fluid. I'll tell you what it is.

2339
02:14:12,450 --> 02:14:15,960
Adam Curry: Isn't 1091 away or
108. Maybe let me look can you

2340
02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:20,700
believe the message is clear. Do
not use cash or do not want

2341
02:14:20,700 --> 02:14:21,210
cash.

2342
02:14:21,870 --> 02:14:25,410
John C Dvorak: What's your use
cash? Right today? It is? Yeah.

2343
02:14:25,410 --> 02:14:28,500
109 44. So we'll do 110 one
test.

2344
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:30,960
Adam Curry: One and one. Can you
believe

2345
02:14:31,620 --> 02:14:34,320
John C Dvorak: this a rip off?
No kidding.

2346
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:38,910
Adam Curry: Yeah, the message is
clear. Got your message. Cash,

2347
02:14:39,090 --> 02:14:43,740
anti cash people, the anti cash
country. Dr. disorder was in El

2348
02:14:43,740 --> 02:14:49,260
Segundo, California 333 33 Our
favorite donation amount. long

2349
02:14:49,260 --> 02:14:52,020
note let's see Dr. Disorder
here. It's been a few years

2350
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:54,330
since I last donated but I knew
it was time to donate again when

2351
02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:57,240
I was listening the other week
on my way to a restaurant while

2352
02:14:57,240 --> 02:15:01,260
John was talking about Gran
Turismo is This is the hot new

2353
02:15:01,260 --> 02:15:05,310
movie from no agenda producer.
I'm sorry Associate Executive

2354
02:15:05,310 --> 02:15:14,700
Producer Dana Brunetti. I know I
can get on with that. When I got

2355
02:15:14,700 --> 02:15:17,790
it. When I got to my table I
chatted up the lady next to me

2356
02:15:17,790 --> 02:15:20,610
and we started talking about
racing. And I told her about

2357
02:15:20,610 --> 02:15:23,580
this movie I just heard about
she stopped me and said, I've

2358
02:15:23,580 --> 02:15:25,830
never heard of this movie, but I
know the story because my

2359
02:15:25,830 --> 02:15:29,580
husband was the chief engineer
of the LeMans car the kid won.

2360
02:15:30,090 --> 02:15:34,500
Because of that he's now Chief
Engineer for Zynga. multimillion

2361
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:38,370
dollar cockpit cars. Look it up.
Wow, there you go. There's a

2362
02:15:38,370 --> 02:15:41,070
backstory to the movie that we
had none other doses

2363
02:15:41,070 --> 02:15:43,320
John C Dvorak: movies gonna be.
I hope the movie makes a lot of

2364
02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:47,610
money. So Brunetti can start
donating again. She is actually

2365
02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:50,700
sorry, get back in the game. But
donating is even better.

2366
02:15:50,729 --> 02:15:52,799
Adam Curry: You're not getting a
big part. It's just not

2367
02:15:52,799 --> 02:15:54,659
happening. John. I'd like to
plug

2368
02:15:54,900 --> 02:15:57,600
John C Dvorak: in a gift from
someone but not from him. I'd

2369
02:15:57,600 --> 02:15:57,870
like

2370
02:15:57,870 --> 02:16:01,170
Adam Curry: to plug the ultimate
Yeah, when I get my Nobel Peace

2371
02:16:01,170 --> 02:16:04,290
Prize. I'd like to plug the
ultimate meetup next weekend,

2372
02:16:04,290 --> 02:16:07,950
Friday, August 18. Monday to
Monday, August 21. In Southern

2373
02:16:07,950 --> 02:16:10,980
California. This is not a meter.
What is this? It's called music

2374
02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:15,330
and sky. Go to music and sky.com
to get all the details. Okay.

2375
02:16:15,330 --> 02:16:17,880
It's a micro Festival. It's not
a no agenda meetup coming up

2376
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:22,860
next week or something. Yeah,
the 18th to the 21st. It's a

2377
02:16:22,860 --> 02:16:24,870
sovereign community. All right.

2378
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:27,690
John C Dvorak: And he also sent
a morning note in which it irks

2379
02:16:27,690 --> 02:16:30,330
me that people send these notes
and so late, but if you're gonna

2380
02:16:30,360 --> 02:16:35,670
buy anything from that website
in a 23 Is your code na $200 off

2381
02:16:36,299 --> 02:16:39,569
Adam Curry: music and sky.com
Finally, the no agenda mass

2382
02:16:39,569 --> 02:16:42,299
sales in 2020 took me to
knighthood but I never claimed

2383
02:16:42,299 --> 02:16:45,359
it. Anyways, I hereby declare
myself the SIR night of

2384
02:16:45,359 --> 02:16:49,079
disorder. I would like swag raw,
and was so turn at the round

2385
02:16:49,079 --> 02:16:55,589
table and DMT and he wants you
to choose the Sauterne which is

2386
02:16:55,589 --> 02:16:58,829
an aphrodisiac if I if I'm
wrong.

2387
02:16:59,639 --> 02:17:02,939
John C Dvorak: About some let's
do it. Right. Do it right. 1967

2388
02:17:02,969 --> 02:17:04,349
Chateau decam

2389
02:17:04,379 --> 02:17:12,869
Adam Curry: 1967 Chateau du cam
D Kim D. Spelling D

2390
02:17:12,990 --> 02:17:18,150
John C Dvorak: dystrophy?
YYQUEMD ClamD.

2391
02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:24,540
Adam Curry: D camps. Whatever.
John 1967 Dribble John wants and

2392
02:17:24,540 --> 02:17:27,390
some DMT. All right. We'll get
the stuff from the druid ready

2393
02:17:27,390 --> 02:17:29,370
for you. We're not messing
around here. Thank you very

2394
02:17:29,370 --> 02:17:33,600
much. Jingles you might die and
that's true. You might die.

2395
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:36,150
That's true. There you go. Thank
you very much, sir.

2396
02:17:38,130 --> 02:17:41,700
John C Dvorak: All right. Where
was Bill? Bill Frank Hauser in

2397
02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:48,900
Columbus, Ohio. 333 33. I don't
have much to say Brogan donation

2398
02:17:49,140 --> 02:17:54,420
as Rogen been deduced. If not do
Shem for me. I don't think

2399
02:17:56,309 --> 02:17:58,139
Unknown: you've been deed deuced

2400
02:17:59,430 --> 02:18:02,640
John C Dvorak: let him know he
owns he owes Wild Bill of Ohio.

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02:18:02,730 --> 02:18:05,340
10 bucks. Oh, thank you for your
courage.

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02:18:07,559 --> 02:18:09,269
Adam Curry: You'd have to
explain why I'll bring it up if

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02:18:09,269 --> 02:18:13,079
you tell me why I need the
backstory. Marcus Campbell

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02:18:13,079 --> 02:18:17,069
offski Westminster Massachusetts
333 33. John anatomy in the

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02:18:17,069 --> 02:18:21,239
morning, John. You're a national
treasure. Oh switcheroo for

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02:18:21,239 --> 02:18:25,259
Wayne by the way. Okay, just
says Wayne so we just shouldn't

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02:18:25,259 --> 02:18:27,119
be Wayne or Wayne Campbell.
Loski

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02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:30,840
John C Dvorak: just waiting just
Wayne. Wayne. Oops.

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02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:35,610
Adam Curry: Oh, what just
happened? Oh boy. I heard a beep

2410
02:18:35,640 --> 02:18:41,400
Yeah, that sounded like I heard
a beep to what was that? My

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02:18:41,490 --> 02:18:49,050
Excel just went nuts and I got a
blank page what why am I even

2412
02:18:49,050 --> 02:18:52,710
using this product is not
outstanding. You're gonna have

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02:18:52,710 --> 02:18:54,270
to read a job because I can't

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02:18:54,299 --> 02:18:55,949
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's the
page that that that's one of

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02:18:55,949 --> 02:18:59,159
those blows out my my
spreadsheet too long a note

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02:18:59,159 --> 02:19:03,329
page. I can read it I guess.
Adam I wanted to ask you if

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02:19:03,329 --> 02:19:09,239
Cardano in the UK stole whatever
EU EU TX o model was on your

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02:19:09,239 --> 02:19:14,279
blockchain radar. Yes, and I
took it right off. And I run an

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02:19:14,279 --> 02:19:18,629
off grid card danno stake pool
that forges blocks regularly

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02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:23,009
using only 110 watts of power.
The right pool is solar powered

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02:19:23,009 --> 02:19:27,179
and uses Starlink as an ISP. I
would love you to not only check

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02:19:27,179 --> 02:19:31,109
out what I've built, but also
had come over and fuck my wife,

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02:19:31,709 --> 02:19:35,609
John Oh no, I'm sorry. Read the
wrong note. Why don't you also

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02:19:35,609 --> 02:19:39,269
have a look at the tech dicking
forge blocks on a Raspberry Pi

2425
02:19:39,269 --> 02:19:43,979
for much love for all you do.
Agenda nation please take your

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02:19:44,009 --> 02:19:50,909
ADA and Star Forge Cardano stake
pool ticker okie GE intro

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02:19:50,909 --> 02:19:54,389
Whiteboard Video by Charles
Hodgkinson and he's got his

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02:19:54,899 --> 02:19:55,649
video.

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02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:56,550
Unknown: I'm shocked.

2430
02:19:57,359 --> 02:20:00,899
John C Dvorak: I'm shocked and
then He's shocked at what

2431
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:06,240
Adam Curry: what you just said.
I mean 10 years ago that might

2432
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:09,720
have been me what has happened?
Were like the Tom Hanks movie

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02:20:09,930 --> 02:20:10,470
switch.

2434
02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:14,550
John C Dvorak: Anyway came up
with $333 and the rest of it is

2435
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:17,130
just about blockchain or some I
can't hear what he's talking

2436
02:20:17,130 --> 02:20:17,580
about here.

2437
02:20:17,610 --> 02:20:19,860
Adam Curry: We appreciate it.
Actually. I had to unplug the

2438
02:20:19,860 --> 02:20:22,920
miners before I left. I was
like, I don't want these things.

2439
02:20:23,370 --> 02:20:26,430
Creating heat. Well, I'm not
home. Charles freelook is in

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02:20:26,460 --> 02:20:31,080
Froelich. Frutiger is important
in Oregon. And he has 333 33 for

2441
02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:33,540
the pool in the Morning John I'm
thank you for the mighty fine

2442
02:20:33,540 --> 02:20:36,540
work you do this donation is an
honor of the treasured amygdala

2443
02:20:36,540 --> 02:20:39,900
shrinking friends I've made
through no agenda meetups about

2444
02:20:39,900 --> 02:20:44,940
that and for my smokin hot man
Scott frying pants who hit me in

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02:20:44,940 --> 02:20:49,230
the mouth in 2020 God save the
Oregon local 33 and God help

2446
02:20:49,230 --> 02:20:52,470
Portlandia Stan no jingles no
karma, Charles Froelich,

2447
02:20:52,470 --> 02:20:53,850
Portland Oregon. Thank you
brother.

2448
02:20:54,780 --> 02:20:58,890
John C Dvorak: And shed a Smith
in Mansfield, Ohio 333 33

2449
02:20:58,890 --> 02:21:03,150
listening since 2013 first major
donation deed douche me

2450
02:21:04,890 --> 02:21:06,750
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2451
02:21:07,890 --> 02:21:10,620
John C Dvorak: no jingles by
karma for all?

2452
02:21:11,039 --> 02:21:13,139
Adam Curry: No. Well, we can do
that for no problem.

2453
02:21:15,270 --> 02:21:16,950
Unknown: You've got karma.

2454
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:23,070
Adam Curry: So Mark is or Mike
I'm sorry is inherent pair of

2455
02:21:23,070 --> 02:21:28,350
her dog Kevin. Kevin O'Leary is
in Ramona California. Thanks for

2456
02:21:28,350 --> 02:21:33,180
all you do. Kevin not the rich
one. Oh, Larry. All right. We

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02:21:33,180 --> 02:21:38,190
appreciate we appreciate your
3333 you do. And I'll do Baron

2458
02:21:38,190 --> 02:21:38,730
JB

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02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:46,860
John C Dvorak: yes sir Mike and
Hereford Arizona 333 Also, sir

2460
02:21:46,860 --> 02:21:49,800
Mike here All Hail to the best
podcast in the universe. I

2461
02:21:49,800 --> 02:21:53,130
believe this takes me to barren
jobs karma please.

2462
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:57,870
Adam Curry: Okay, jobs karma it
is for you my friend. Jobs,

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02:21:58,020 --> 02:22:07,590
jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs. And
then we have Baron J B and

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02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:13,320
Clark's Ville, Maryland. 280 82
little bit of a palindrome in

2465
02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:17,340
there. Hey, my dudes haven't
done donation in a while and was

2466
02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:20,280
feeling kind of douchey decided
to fix that please consider this

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the new duck breast donation to
80828082 I'm calling out all

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02:22:26,700 --> 02:22:30,150
listeners who don't donate don't
be a dick donate please add me

2469
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:32,190
to the birthday list as I share
a birthday with JC these

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02:22:32,190 --> 02:22:35,640
anniversary of eight eight also
add a George K. Who has a

2471
02:22:35,640 --> 02:22:38,760
birthday next week. Finally, I'm
calling up producers that I have

2472
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:42,330
punched in the mouth to match my
duck breast donation you know

2473
02:22:42,330 --> 02:22:47,220
who you are. Chris S. Eric W
Fred are George K and Dave G

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02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:50,310
owner of metal spirits. Oh, I
have one of their T shirt and

2475
02:22:50,310 --> 02:22:52,890
some of their drink. Let's
support the best podcast in the

2476
02:22:52,890 --> 02:22:56,010
universe. No jingles no coma
Baron JB are the Poconos and

2477
02:22:56,010 --> 02:22:57,090
Chesapeake Bay.

2478
02:22:58,770 --> 02:23:04,980
John C Dvorak: James slammy in
Bastrop, Texas 23456. And this

2479
02:23:04,980 --> 02:23:10,620
is a switcheroo from Dame slammy
to serve. Dude Cink in Bastrop

2480
02:23:10,620 --> 02:23:14,970
Texas ITM Janice please credit
sir dude Jinkx the best husband

2481
02:23:14,970 --> 02:23:19,410
and dude in the universe for his
birthday on August 14. Birthday

2482
02:23:19,410 --> 02:23:24,390
list a biscuit yet karma please.
Thanks recurse love is lit.

2483
02:23:24,420 --> 02:23:26,850
Adam Curry: Yes, we have your
biscuit right here. They always

2484
02:23:26,850 --> 02:23:28,440
give me a biscuit on my
birthday.

2485
02:23:29,580 --> 02:23:30,390
Unknown: You've got

2486
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:41,730
Adam Curry: ah Harma red pill is
in Kona Wisconsin. No note no

2487
02:23:41,730 --> 02:23:46,920
karma. Triple John donate. Oh
no, I didn't see that one

2488
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:51,690
before. Donate. Yeah, we'll do
the annoying one.

2489
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:54,570
Unknown: You've got

2490
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:10,800
John C Dvorak: the Nilu pagkain
and Lakewood Colorado jobs

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02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:15,450
coming for on for a competitive
edge Go to Image makers inc.com

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For all your executive resume
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or just find Linda Lou patcon

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under the show's producer list
and run a search jobs, jobs,

2495
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jobs and jobs that's the staring
contest continues.

2496
02:24:41,550 --> 02:24:44,670
Adam Curry: But we have one more
usually Linda Lou Potkin is is

2497
02:24:44,670 --> 02:24:48,450
the last Associate Executive
Producer no longer we have

2498
02:24:48,450 --> 02:24:53,100
Lionel Ewing Ewing from Seattle,
Washington. Can I get some refit

2499
02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:56,790
karma as I'm getting my sailboat
titled sideways nine named

2500
02:24:56,790 --> 02:25:01,980
sideways, ready to sail around
the world You must be sending us

2501
02:25:02,010 --> 02:25:04,740
send us postcards. Yeah, that's

2502
02:25:04,740 --> 02:25:06,450
John C Dvorak: a great idea.
Postcards, postcards,

2503
02:25:06,450 --> 02:25:08,100
Adam Curry: please. Of course
we're gonna give you a service

2504
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:14,280
goat karma for sideways. Karma.
I think I should

2505
02:25:14,280 --> 02:25:15,570
John C Dvorak: finish off this
list.

2506
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:16,950
Adam Curry: Let's do that. Let's
do it all the way.

2507
02:25:16,980 --> 02:25:19,830
John C Dvorak: Let's go all the
way through. That begins with

2508
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:22,920
Sir phone finger number one and
is the rest of the donations in

2509
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:30,840
Louisville, Kentucky. $111.11
Menno Demento in Georgetown,

2510
02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:35,610
Texas $100 Larry to Leesburg,
Virginia. $100 He was a

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02:25:35,610 --> 02:25:41,160
shoplifter for a while ROBERT
CHAMPION 9203 Happy anniversary.

2512
02:25:41,490 --> 02:25:45,510
Sir egghead. 9203 Another happy
anniversary. This is the

2513
02:25:45,510 --> 02:25:49,560
leftovers 9203 from John
Schuhmann. Right, Tyler

2514
02:25:49,590 --> 02:25:53,910
Darrington 92 a three. And then
we have another few well

2515
02:25:53,910 --> 02:26:00,810
wishers, Manuel, Bondo 8888
David hothouse 8888 is radiate

2516
02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:08,340
ADH, including anonymous at the
Nevada Test Site. Your feet

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02:26:08,340 --> 02:26:15,930
tingling, Jonathan polar. And
JELA Pickering. Kevin McLaughlin

2518
02:26:15,930 --> 02:26:19,230
who comes in with 808 I want to
thank all these other people

2519
02:26:19,230 --> 02:26:24,360
that came up with 8888 and 92 or
three for anniversary follow the

2520
02:26:24,420 --> 02:26:28,140
last of the of the group. Kevin
McLaughlin, meanwhile comes with

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02:26:28,140 --> 02:26:36,330
808 and this time he's promoting
the Balan melon be a i l a n

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02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:42,780
yum. And then he says Chinese 15
eight one with that Miss code.

2523
02:26:43,500 --> 02:26:47,640
Christopher Myers in Dallas
Texas $71 Joseph Stegman in 1000

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02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:54,900
oaks 6666 Kevin McLaughlin back
606 small boobs promoting the

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02:26:54,900 --> 02:26:57,930
you Bari King melon news not

2526
02:26:57,930 --> 02:26:59,940
Adam Curry: running on time
soon.

2527
02:27:00,210 --> 02:27:03,690
John C Dvorak: You Bari King
Malefor No, Sir Don and Chandler

2528
02:27:03,690 --> 02:27:09,630
Arizona 606 small boobs Banstead
straw in Nashville Tennessee

2529
02:27:09,630 --> 02:27:16,050
5993 Less tar kowski in Kingman
Arizona 57 Christopher Dexter

2530
02:27:16,050 --> 02:27:23,010
5678 for economic hitman in
Tomball, Texas 5001 And the last

2531
02:27:23,010 --> 02:27:25,980
on our list are $50 donors name
and location starting with

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02:27:25,980 --> 02:27:30,570
Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New
York, Gavin McGoldrick in San

2533
02:27:30,570 --> 02:27:37,350
Francisco, Tim Delvecchio and
bland in Pennsylvania, Cory

2534
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:42,870
Cunningham in Warrington,
Virginia, John spade in Edmond,

2535
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:47,670
Oklahoma, next to Gary Mau, in
Woodland Hills, California

2536
02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:52,590
Stephen King and Box Elder South
Dakota. Michael when Dale and

2537
02:27:52,590 --> 02:27:58,080
Mater when New Jersey, Nikki nos
in Milledgeville, North Dakota.

2538
02:27:59,310 --> 02:28:04,710
Brand and Savoie in Port
orchard, Washington. New Deal's

2539
02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:08,160
net real deals now in San
Antonio, Texas looking for a

2540
02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:11,550
deal go to real deals. Dane
Patricia Worthington in Miami,

2541
02:28:11,550 --> 02:28:14,370
Florida Jared you're in
Nashville, Tennessee, David

2542
02:28:14,370 --> 02:28:17,220
Richmond in Gainesville, Florida
and last on our list, the

2543
02:28:17,220 --> 02:28:21,030
fabulous service but the mighty
in Marietta, Georgia want to

2544
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:24,660
thank all these people for
making show 1581 a real show

2545
02:28:24,690 --> 02:28:27,150
Adam Curry: and thank you to
everyone who came in under $50.

2546
02:28:27,180 --> 02:28:30,060
You are the ones on sustaining
donations, you keep the train

2547
02:28:30,060 --> 02:28:33,360
rolling when everything is low.
We appreciate it. In addition to

2548
02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:36,660
that people come in under 50,
for reasons of anonymity, and we

2549
02:28:36,660 --> 02:28:40,470
appreciate you as well. We have
a couple of makers. The first

2550
02:28:40,470 --> 02:28:45,810
one is from Well, this was from
Cassandra fair, and we

2551
02:28:45,810 --> 02:28:49,140
mistakenly gave her a
knighthood, even though it was

2552
02:28:49,140 --> 02:28:52,230
intended for her husband, Mike
Reuter. I think that's how I

2553
02:28:52,230 --> 02:28:55,290
pronounce it. Who turned her on
to the no agenda show last year

2554
02:28:55,290 --> 02:28:58,800
and they religiously listen. The
day after each episode Mike

2555
02:28:58,800 --> 02:29:01,800
turns 59 on August 10, and our
10 year wedding anniversary is

2556
02:29:01,830 --> 02:29:06,330
August 31. And I never had a
fight. My husband is a great man

2557
02:29:06,330 --> 02:29:09,000
who was stuck by me through many
health issues. He also makes me

2558
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:12,600
laugh every day we both enjoy
your show so much. It was about

2559
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:15,060
time you became a night I would
appreciate birthday wishes and a

2560
02:29:15,060 --> 02:29:21,120
de douche. You've been de douche
during the show. This is my

2561
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:24,510
birthday anniversary present to
my amazing husband Mike and she

2562
02:29:24,510 --> 02:29:28,680
says again Mike Mike Mike rochet
Roy, Roy J. Roger, what do you

2563
02:29:28,680 --> 02:29:31,440
think John on because you're
gonna get another rosiere

2564
02:29:31,470 --> 02:29:36,360
rosiere I want to make sure you
mispronounce his name. He would

2565
02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:40,140
like to be registered so MARPOL
part of the Fort Bend County

2566
02:29:40,140 --> 02:29:47,070
Texas. Oh, we collect vintage
muscle cars. Oh, hello. I want

2567
02:29:47,070 --> 02:29:47,790
to come Hey, Oh,

2568
02:29:47,790 --> 02:29:50,400
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. I
thought it was I er by looking

2569
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:53,850
at Oro I G or that's gotta be
Roger.

2570
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:58,080
Adam Curry: Roger, Roger, Roger,
Roger, Roger, Roger roger, my

2571
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:02,520
friend. He's not he's my new
friend because The mic riser.

2572
02:30:03,300 --> 02:30:07,860
Right, Roger. All right. And I
swear I heard my husband say

2573
02:30:07,860 --> 02:30:10,830
Obama 18. But you will write he
actually said Obama's a team.

2574
02:30:10,830 --> 02:30:16,710
Yes. We played that. And finally
out for Adam. I myself Cassandra

2575
02:30:16,710 --> 02:30:19,440
was born and raised in Canada,
and I've lived in Houston, Texas

2576
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:22,860
since 2001. I have dual
citizenship. Okay. Well let you

2577
02:30:22,860 --> 02:30:26,700
say, I am mailing you a package
of mint condition Canadian coins

2578
02:30:26,700 --> 02:30:29,640
for your collection. Thank you,
which also includes a roll of

2579
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:32,850
minted pennies that are no
longer in use. No more pennies

2580
02:30:32,850 --> 02:30:36,060
accepted in Canada Navia. It
should be in your mailbox when

2581
02:30:36,060 --> 02:30:38,940
you get back from Europe. Thank
you. That was so nice of you,

2582
02:30:38,970 --> 02:30:42,300
Cassandra? Yes. So we fix that
and we have him. We'll have them

2583
02:30:42,300 --> 02:30:45,120
up on the podium in a moment.
And then we have our incident

2584
02:30:45,120 --> 02:30:48,030
came from the last episode. She
had no note but we have now.

2585
02:30:48,960 --> 02:30:52,260
Connie, her birthday was on show
day, August 10. And she turned

2586
02:30:52,260 --> 02:30:55,110
33. I wanted to make a
correction of my husband was

2587
02:30:55,110 --> 02:30:57,870
mentioned my husband is not Sir
Brian Watson from Raleigh, North

2588
02:30:57,870 --> 02:31:02,250
Carolina. He's Brian Watson from
San Martin, California. He's my

2589
02:31:02,250 --> 02:31:05,610
husband. I would like my day
name to be Dane Bay Area's

2590
02:31:05,610 --> 02:31:09,450
wildfire. Okay. I don't know if
it's too late to make requests.

2591
02:31:09,450 --> 02:31:12,420
I would love three rolls. No, I
can do that right now. three

2592
02:31:12,420 --> 02:31:16,230
rolls of sushi with a glass of
gin at the round table.

2593
02:31:16,830 --> 02:31:17,910
John C Dvorak: Oh, god. What?

2594
02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:21,960
Adam Curry: What is wrong with
you people? Oh, that's what

2595
02:31:21,960 --> 02:31:27,570
you're into. We're okay Saki
we're okay with that. One a

2596
02:31:27,570 --> 02:31:29,910
shout out to two amazing people
that took us to Alaska for a

2597
02:31:29,910 --> 02:31:33,180
wedding anniversary. Kristen and
Nick our last restaurant we ate

2598
02:31:33,180 --> 02:31:39,450
out in Alaska. After the tip our
receipt came to 333 dot 32 No

2599
02:31:39,450 --> 02:31:42,420
requests just want to tell you
you are both amazing. Well,

2600
02:31:42,420 --> 02:31:44,820
thank you so much. And thank you
to everybody who produced this

2601
02:31:44,820 --> 02:31:47,610
episode of The no agenda show
especially our executive and

2602
02:31:47,610 --> 02:31:50,400
associated executive producers
we appreciate it. These titles

2603
02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:54,570
are good forever. If anyone
questions about our formula is

2604
02:31:54,570 --> 02:31:58,260
this. We go out we hit people in
the mouth

2605
02:32:10,770 --> 02:32:15,660
karma for everybody who needs
karma and remember you can

2606
02:32:15,660 --> 02:32:20,790
support us become a producer
vorak.org/pay.

2607
02:32:27,870 --> 02:32:31,980
A nice list once again today.
Don Canary cashmere turns 61 on

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02:32:31,980 --> 02:32:35,550
July 30 belated Happy Birthday.
Baron JB celebrated on the

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02:32:35,550 --> 02:32:38,610
eighth sir Egghead wishes little
Islam and Happy Birthday turned

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02:32:38,610 --> 02:32:42,090
15 On the eighth of the Saundra
Fair which is her husband Mike

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02:32:42,090 --> 02:32:46,620
Rozier Happy Birthday 59 on the
10th day is bizarre his wife

2612
02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:51,900
faith and celebrated 49 years on
August 11 Robert flat wishes

2613
02:32:51,900 --> 02:32:55,380
wife Deborah happy birthday for
tomorrow. Dame slamming her

2614
02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:58,920
husband sir dude kink Happy
Birthday on the 14th and Baron

2615
02:32:58,920 --> 02:33:02,850
JB wishes George K Happy
birthday so do we everybody here

2616
02:33:02,850 --> 02:33:05,790
to Stafford management of the
best podcast in the universe

2617
02:33:15,540 --> 02:33:16,380
Unknown: don't want to be

2618
02:33:17,340 --> 02:33:20,970
Adam Curry: we do have one that
super non douchebag because

2619
02:33:20,970 --> 02:33:24,960
becomes barren today that would
be like his additional support

2620
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of the no agenda show $1,000
takes them up to Baron status

2621
02:33:28,050 --> 02:33:31,290
these are real by the way. And
believe it or not, I have seen

2622
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:34,500
the beginnings of the new
donation page which will explain

2623
02:33:34,500 --> 02:33:38,070
all of these peerages and titles
and everything in a beautiful

2624
02:33:38,070 --> 02:33:41,100
fashion is coming soon stay
tuned we'll let you know that

2625
02:33:41,100 --> 02:33:41,700
page will be

2626
02:33:41,730 --> 02:33:45,750
Unknown: four.org/if John

2627
02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:47,430
Adam Curry: can find the
credentials for the login for

2628
02:33:47,430 --> 02:33:52,590
the server. And now we have
let's see we have three days and

2629
02:33:52,590 --> 02:33:55,320
two nights so that's a big
blades we got to bring out for

2630
02:33:55,320 --> 02:34:03,300
today's show John. Oh look at
this all right. Up on the podium

2631
02:34:03,300 --> 02:34:08,880
please the following people
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2632
02:34:08,880 --> 02:34:14,910
Robert Platt, Dr. disorder and
Mike Roger, all of you. I'm very

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02:34:14,910 --> 02:34:19,230
proud to pronounce the Kate as
dames knights. Again. Bay Area's

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02:34:19,230 --> 02:34:23,880
wildfire day moves 104 Dame of
the twisted Wonderland sir

2635
02:34:23,880 --> 02:34:28,620
senseis sir night of disorder.
Sir Mopar of Fort Bend County,

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Texas for you. We've got focus
on blow renforcement Chardonnay,

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foie gras with 1967 sotar and
DMT rolls of sushi with a glass

2638
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of gin. We also got sparkling
cider and escorts ginger ale and

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is. You know you asked for these

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fancy things 1967 Shoto duquan
So turn button you know you want

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the mutton and meat we all know
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02:34:53,610 --> 02:34:57,180
while you're feasting on that go
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02:34:57,180 --> 02:35:00,810
find a place there to put in
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sizing guide is there as well
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everyone else can go there take

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ring or the dame ring it's a
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wax to seal your important
correspondence along with of

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02:35:15,210 --> 02:35:17,220
course certificate of
authenticity and thank you for

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02:35:17,220 --> 02:35:19,860
coming Knights and Dames with no
agenda around him no one

2651
02:35:27,870 --> 02:35:31,080
connects connects for that
protect that you deserve no

2652
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:34,680
agenda meetups can be found in
no agenda meetups.com Completely

2653
02:35:34,680 --> 02:35:37,410
producer organized. It is the
compliment to listening to the

2654
02:35:37,410 --> 02:35:40,410
no agenda show already the best
podcast in the universe. But the

2655
02:35:40,410 --> 02:35:43,560
best meetups in the universe
happen around the world where

2656
02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:47,190
producers from every corner of
the earth come together and hang

2657
02:35:47,190 --> 02:35:49,410
out. There's always one near
you. And we have a couple of

2658
02:35:49,410 --> 02:35:52,620
interesting reports. This one's
from Alexandria. Hey, it's DC

2659
02:35:52,620 --> 02:35:54,060
girl in the morning. Hey, it's
there,

2660
02:35:54,060 --> 02:35:56,610
Unknown: William. Jeff in the
morning.

2661
02:35:56,760 --> 02:35:59,670
Adam Curry: Hey, it's Chris.
This is great crowd. Hey, this

2662
02:35:59,670 --> 02:36:04,110
is Jacob my first meet up from
Albany Georgia. Hey, in the

2663
02:36:04,110 --> 02:36:07,020
morning, Christopher in King
George I think they're all

2664
02:36:07,020 --> 02:36:09,300
spooks here. Rosa from King
George

2665
02:36:10,770 --> 02:36:12,660
Unknown: the hottest day on
Earth and I'm John except for

2666
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:15,510
the 500 million years the earth
was covered in lava. That

2667
02:36:15,540 --> 02:36:16,470
was a pretty hot day.

2668
02:36:16,710 --> 02:36:21,120
This is yet another Chris and
how come there's so many boobs

2669
02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:23,490
and Alexandria various unity

2670
02:36:23,610 --> 02:36:28,920
they say hi meetups good Hitler
bad this is rounding this Are we

2671
02:36:28,920 --> 02:36:30,000
saying the sound thing

2672
02:36:30,120 --> 02:36:33,630
I can tell not until the Crystal
Palace anchor baby emanates

2673
02:36:35,730 --> 02:36:37,920
Adam Curry: around the sneaking
in there you know you got a real

2674
02:36:37,920 --> 02:36:41,550
job and it doesn't make art for
us anymore. was nice while it

2675
02:36:41,550 --> 02:36:46,200
lasted. And DC girl nice to have
her in there Alexandria,

2676
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:49,170
Virginia. It's also known as the
spook meet up we have the

2677
02:36:49,170 --> 02:36:54,030
crooked Ryan meet up here from
the lowlands sure Henrik from

2678
02:36:54,030 --> 02:36:56,280
the crooked rain meter bins

2679
02:36:58,650 --> 02:37:03,270
Unknown: and we have here in the
big picnic I'm sure Andre and

2680
02:37:03,270 --> 02:37:07,350
I'm sober. Hi this is Nina it's
my first time today this

2681
02:37:07,350 --> 02:37:08,280
Sebastian sobers.

2682
02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:11,040
Well, sure doors enjoying my
fake beer.

2683
02:37:11,220 --> 02:37:14,970
This is fine great time great
food. Great meet up business

2684
02:37:14,970 --> 02:37:15,540
Hans firmer

2685
02:37:15,540 --> 02:37:19,680
sundrenched Benwick in the in
the Netherlands. In the morning

2686
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:23,550
everybody in the morning dava
stay safe and healthy

2687
02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:29,160
Dame Sabine boost and yeah, it's
never a dull moment here. Really

2688
02:37:29,160 --> 02:37:33,030
nice here. I'm Stephanie. I'm
Zelena you're enjoying myself?

2689
02:37:33,510 --> 02:37:34,650
Isn't that lovely?

2690
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:37,080
Greetings from all of us in
Sinhala?

2691
02:37:39,870 --> 02:37:43,230
Adam Curry: Yes and no agenda
meetups in the lowlands enjoy

2692
02:37:43,950 --> 02:37:51,210
smelly smelly now is the time
you guys are crazy love you I

2693
02:37:51,210 --> 02:37:54,000
wish I were here earlier would
have come to that Ryan the Ryan

2694
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:56,970
meet up there on the Rhine
somewhere the Ryan rather Ryan

2695
02:37:56,970 --> 02:38:00,510
the best date and had a good
meet up Dayton Ohio sir egg had

2696
02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:03,960
sent a note he says thank you
for the love of God. Y'all go to

2697
02:38:03,960 --> 02:38:06,960
a meet up. Thanks, Adam and John
for helping introduce us to cool

2698
02:38:06,960 --> 02:38:12,210
people coming up. Today actually
the third annual CTFs float meet

2699
02:38:12,210 --> 02:38:17,250
is well the the float part has
been done. But I believe the

2700
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:20,430
meat portion starts in about
half an hour at the railroad

2701
02:38:20,460 --> 02:38:24,510
rail yard Bar and Grill in San
Marcos, Texas and of course,

2702
02:38:24,570 --> 02:38:27,690
Baron Scott of the knowledge and
armory organizing that the

2703
02:38:27,690 --> 02:38:31,440
second Saturday on a Sunday
slave soiree that probably

2704
02:38:31,440 --> 02:38:34,440
already is over at Sellwood
Riverfront Park in Portland,

2705
02:38:34,440 --> 02:38:38,070
Oregon. We have the so called
Small amygdala meetup coming up

2706
02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:41,550
at 430. So that's not too far
away from now. Draft on Vessel

2707
02:38:41,550 --> 02:38:47,520
Tosa in Wauwatosa. Wisconsin.
Sad news the meet up Monday the

2708
02:38:47,550 --> 02:38:50,610
Ozarks deconstruction zone,
which is a regular one has been

2709
02:38:50,610 --> 02:38:53,250
canceled. So in case you're
planning on going on going

2710
02:38:53,250 --> 02:38:57,090
there, don't go there. Next show
Thursday, the Mile High meet up

2711
02:38:57,090 --> 02:39:00,450
630 Mountain Time Denver Museum
of Nature and Science in Denver,

2712
02:39:00,450 --> 02:39:03,660
Colorado. I'll go get some
science people and Charlotte's

2713
02:39:04,020 --> 02:39:07,830
Third Thursday, seven o'clock at
edge Tavern in Charlotte, North

2714
02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:12,480
Carolina. There will be a
special meetup on August 19 in

2715
02:39:12,480 --> 02:39:16,140
Maui, Hawaii. Go to Noah Jenna
meetups.com. To find out about

2716
02:39:16,140 --> 02:39:19,560
that we have several more
international meetups including

2717
02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:24,360
Konya, Turkey coming up on the
27th another Netherlands meet up

2718
02:39:24,360 --> 02:39:27,270
on the ninth. We're already in
the September this thing these

2719
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:31,770
meetups are slammin, you have to
go to one. You will not regret

2720
02:39:31,770 --> 02:39:35,220
I've not ever heard one person
say I went to a meet up man to

2721
02:39:35,220 --> 02:39:38,190
suck there was no good I was
disappointed. That's the one

2722
02:39:38,190 --> 02:39:41,580
thing you'll never hear you will
hear crazy drunk high people who

2723
02:39:41,580 --> 02:39:45,030
are having a good time all over
the world. And many sober as you

2724
02:39:45,030 --> 02:39:48,450
heard even in the Netherlands,
no agenda meetup.com Go there.

2725
02:39:48,450 --> 02:39:50,850
Find a meetup near you. If you
can't find one, start one

2726
02:39:50,850 --> 02:39:52,980
yourself. It's easy and always a
party

2727
02:39:57,180 --> 02:40:10,350
Unknown: day you wouldn't be
triggered you wouldn't be bomb

2728
02:40:10,350 --> 02:40:11,280
bombs like

2729
02:40:13,620 --> 02:40:15,660
Adam Curry: alright, a cover
call. Do you have any meetups?

2730
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:19,710
meetups? ISOs I mean meetups.
Eisah.

2731
02:40:19,740 --> 02:40:21,600
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, you have
ISOs Yeah. How

2732
02:40:21,600 --> 02:40:22,260
Adam Curry: many do you have?

2733
02:40:22,830 --> 02:40:24,990
Unknown: I have three. I have
three. Let's do your three

2734
02:40:24,990 --> 02:40:25,440
first.

2735
02:40:26,010 --> 02:40:28,710
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start
with lunacy.

2736
02:40:29,580 --> 02:40:34,110
Adam Curry: It's lunacy. AJ can
almost can't go wrong with an

2737
02:40:34,110 --> 02:40:36,840
AGI. So to be honest, but let's
see what else you got.

2738
02:40:37,410 --> 02:40:41,370
Unknown: Psychic. Gets like he's
a psychic. Okay.

2739
02:40:42,450 --> 02:40:44,220
John C Dvorak: And last is
timeout.

2740
02:40:44,400 --> 02:40:45,510
Unknown: Time's running out

2741
02:40:45,900 --> 02:40:49,620
Adam Curry: to a J's wow all
right. Let me let me see if I

2742
02:40:49,620 --> 02:40:50,400
can top that.

2743
02:40:52,470 --> 02:40:53,370
Unknown: Oh my God.

2744
02:40:55,320 --> 02:40:58,800
Not bad. Not bad. I heard you
kind of sniffle I'm on a whole

2745
02:40:58,800 --> 02:41:00,030
bunch of different drugs.

2746
02:41:01,650 --> 02:41:03,900
Adam Curry: Little muddly maybe
this one

2747
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:06,300
John C Dvorak: hot, heavy and
hard.

2748
02:41:08,250 --> 02:41:09,480
Unknown: To ridiculous.

2749
02:41:12,480 --> 02:41:13,380
Oh my god.

2750
02:41:13,470 --> 02:41:14,220
Adam Curry: You don't like that?
Well,

2751
02:41:14,250 --> 02:41:16,440
John C Dvorak: I like that. And
I like Time's running out.

2752
02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:19,260
Unknown: Time's running out.

2753
02:41:19,410 --> 02:41:21,870
Adam Curry: It's AJ man. We can
always play AJ you don't always

2754
02:41:21,870 --> 02:41:22,050
get

2755
02:41:22,410 --> 02:41:23,940
John C Dvorak: to run. You're
gonna You're laughing guy.

2756
02:41:24,240 --> 02:41:26,250
Adam Curry: Laughing guy. You
know who the laughing guy is?

2757
02:41:26,250 --> 02:41:28,200
I'm not going to tell you you
won't want it. I know

2758
02:41:28,200 --> 02:41:32,880
John C Dvorak: you have to tell
me. It's Morning Joe. No cheat.

2759
02:41:34,020 --> 02:41:39,900
Adam Curry: Did told you didn't
want to know who was who okay

2760
02:41:42,720 --> 02:41:45,270
John C Dvorak: I've got the spy.
We actually least do this. Yeah,

2761
02:41:45,270 --> 02:41:48,120
this just by spying the spy.
Yeah, I

2762
02:41:48,120 --> 02:41:49,290
Adam Curry: got some of that
caught. We

2763
02:41:49,290 --> 02:41:51,420
John C Dvorak: caught the one
spy we finally get a spy in

2764
02:41:51,420 --> 02:41:55,530
there. They caught him
immediately. CIA's got a mole.

2765
02:41:56,520 --> 02:42:00,660
Unknown: China may have caught a
US spy. The communist countries

2766
02:42:00,660 --> 02:42:04,200
saying so. And the American CIA
has said it's developing its

2767
02:42:04,200 --> 02:42:07,740
network in the communist
country. Here's NTDs Tiffany

2768
02:42:07,740 --> 02:42:08,760
Meyer with more

2769
02:42:08,789 --> 02:42:12,659
Beijing says it's found an
American spy in its midst

2770
02:42:12,689 --> 02:42:16,439
surnamed zone, the Chinese
national is under arrest on

2771
02:42:16,439 --> 02:42:19,859
suspicion of spying for the US
Central Intelligence Agency or

2772
02:42:19,859 --> 02:42:24,179
CIA. The news follows recent
word from the agency that it's

2773
02:42:24,179 --> 02:42:28,139
working to rebuild its spy
network inside China. Here's

2774
02:42:28,139 --> 02:42:30,839
that clip from CIA director
William Burns

2775
02:42:30,869 --> 02:42:34,799
on micro about a decade ago the
CIA rolled up the China rolled

2776
02:42:34,799 --> 02:42:39,689
up a lot of CIA operations in
China. A dozen or more CIA?

2777
02:42:39,810 --> 02:42:41,130
Adam Curry: Sounds like he's
crying.

2778
02:42:42,570 --> 02:42:45,240
Unknown: Yes, the host. Oh, I

2779
02:42:45,240 --> 02:42:46,890
Adam Curry: was gonna say that's
not burns.

2780
02:42:48,030 --> 02:42:51,960
Unknown: China rolled up a lot
of CIA operations in China. A

2781
02:42:51,960 --> 02:42:58,950
dozen or more CIA sources were
arrested or worse executed. Have

2782
02:42:58,950 --> 02:42:59,670
you rebuilt?

2783
02:43:00,960 --> 02:43:04,380
Yeah, we've made progress and
we're working very hard over

2784
02:43:04,380 --> 02:43:09,120
recent years to ensure that we
have a strong human intelligence

2785
02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:12,810
capability to complement what we
can acquire through other

2786
02:43:12,810 --> 02:43:13,410
methods.

2787
02:43:13,769 --> 02:43:18,029
Over a decade ago Beijing killed
or detained over a dozen see a

2788
02:43:18,029 --> 02:43:21,869
sources. One of them was shot in
front of his coworkers in the

2789
02:43:21,869 --> 02:43:25,739
courtyard of a sticked building
inside China. Back to the latest

2790
02:43:25,739 --> 02:43:29,759
arrest. China says the newly
captured alleged spy had worked

2791
02:43:29,759 --> 02:43:33,299
from industrial group linked to
the Chinese military. The group

2792
02:43:33,329 --> 02:43:37,469
sent zing to Italy to further
his studies. But while there he

2793
02:43:37,469 --> 02:43:41,909
reportedly got acquainted with a
local CIA agent, the report

2794
02:43:41,909 --> 02:43:45,989
refers to the US agent as Seth
and goes on to say that Xang

2795
02:43:45,989 --> 02:43:50,249
later signed contracts with the
US intelligence agency and

2796
02:43:50,249 --> 02:43:54,269
exchange as promised larger sums
of money and a smooth US

2797
02:43:54,269 --> 02:43:58,469
immigration process for his
entire family. The statement

2798
02:43:58,469 --> 02:44:00,389
continues that Xang repeatedly

2799
02:44:00,869 --> 02:44:04,619
Adam Curry: women they signed
contracts now with despise

2800
02:44:05,940 --> 02:44:09,960
John C Dvorak: but it says this
is probably yours. They had like

2801
02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:12,930
four if you remember that we did
a story about 10 years ago I had

2802
02:44:12,930 --> 02:44:13,740
to see a

2803
02:44:13,740 --> 02:44:17,130
Unknown: vapor the deal that
they reorg

2804
02:44:17,970 --> 02:44:20,520
John C Dvorak: and instead of
having I guess they used to have

2805
02:44:20,520 --> 02:44:24,600
all these these field guys that
would solicit somebody and get

2806
02:44:24,600 --> 02:44:26,880
them working for them
individually. It was kind of off

2807
02:44:26,880 --> 02:44:31,500
the books and only known by that
one agent and they decided to

2808
02:44:31,500 --> 02:44:34,380
centralize a database because
they needed a database or got a

2809
02:44:34,380 --> 02:44:37,500
computer and that's how they
caught so they put put all the

2810
02:44:37,500 --> 02:44:40,680
spied listed despise that, you
know this this problem of law,

2811
02:44:40,740 --> 02:44:42,540
they got the list of all the
spies

2812
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:48,090
Adam Curry: so dumb. The BBC had
a different version of that was

2813
02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:50,850
part two of this video. Let me
play play part two.

2814
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:54,570
Unknown: The updated log gives
Beijing additional authority to

2815
02:44:54,570 --> 02:44:58,260
sniff out and punish acts that
it deems a threat to its

2816
02:44:58,260 --> 02:45:02,190
national security. Several US
officials have already expressed

2817
02:45:02,190 --> 02:45:06,750
concerns over the new counter
espionage law. At the same time,

2818
02:45:06,750 --> 02:45:10,230
tensions are still mounting
between Washington and Beijing.

2819
02:45:10,560 --> 02:45:14,100
The US Embassy in China hasn't
responded to the matter.

2820
02:45:14,700 --> 02:45:18,450
Adam Curry: The who announced
this is the CIA Come on, guys

2821
02:45:18,450 --> 02:45:19,860
got caught. Is that what they
did?

2822
02:45:20,250 --> 02:45:22,260
John C Dvorak: I don't know
where it came from. And TD

2823
02:45:22,260 --> 02:45:24,750
probably picked it off with
China's Chinese news.

2824
02:45:24,780 --> 02:45:27,390
Adam Curry: Here's BBC was a
version of a report.

2825
02:45:27,420 --> 02:45:30,210
Unknown: China says it's
uncovered a spy recruited by the

2826
02:45:30,210 --> 02:45:34,290
US intelligence service this
CIA, the state security ministry

2827
02:45:34,290 --> 02:45:38,280
said the Chinese national, known
only by the surname of zoom was

2828
02:45:38,280 --> 02:45:41,610
employed at a military
organization and was taken on by

2829
02:45:41,610 --> 02:45:45,480
the Americans during a work trip
to Italy. Our Asia Pacific

2830
02:45:45,510 --> 02:45:49,170
editor will Leonardo is with me
in the studio. Tell us more

2831
02:45:49,170 --> 02:45:51,270
about what China is saying about
this agent.

2832
02:45:51,690 --> 02:45:54,210
So yes, this is a statement from
the tiny security ministry. It

2833
02:45:54,210 --> 02:45:57,540
says this man called sung in his
50s, who worked for what's

2834
02:45:57,540 --> 02:45:59,880
described as a military
industrial group was sent to

2835
02:45:59,880 --> 02:46:02,850
Italy. And there he was alleged
to have met a US embassy

2836
02:46:02,850 --> 02:46:06,360
official by the name of Seth.
Piers, they lived it up together

2837
02:46:06,360 --> 02:46:09,030
in Italy, they went to dinner
parties and went on outings to

2838
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:12,210
the opera together. wording in
the statement says

2839
02:46:12,660 --> 02:46:16,290
Adam Curry: the old gay spy
routine Hey, let's go to the

2840
02:46:16,320 --> 02:46:17,130
opera is to

2841
02:46:17,130 --> 02:46:20,010
Unknown: have met a US embassy
official by the name of Seth.

2842
02:46:20,430 --> 02:46:22,860
Piers. They lived it up together
in Italy, they went to a dinner

2843
02:46:22,860 --> 02:46:25,830
parties and went on outings and
went to the opera together. And

2844
02:46:25,830 --> 02:46:27,750
there's some interesting wording
in the statement. It says that

2845
02:46:27,750 --> 02:46:30,630
Zoom became psychologically
dependent and succumbs to

2846
02:46:30,630 --> 02:46:34,410
Western values. Seth is then a
sensitive offered zone a large

2847
02:46:34,410 --> 02:46:37,560
sum of money and immigration to
the US for himself and his

2848
02:46:37,560 --> 02:46:40,530
family and being signed an
espionage agreement to provide

2849
02:46:40,530 --> 02:46:44,370
sensitive material about Chinese
military wants back in China.

2850
02:46:44,580 --> 02:46:47,580
Once back in the country, he met
up with CIA agents as alleged

2851
02:46:47,580 --> 02:46:50,880
multiple times to provide what's
been described as a large amount

2852
02:46:50,880 --> 02:46:53,790
of cord intelligence. There's no
word and what that is. The

2853
02:46:53,790 --> 02:46:56,220
ministry said he was taking
compulsory measures against them

2854
02:46:56,220 --> 02:46:59,040
and will be handed to
prosecution services soon. And

2855
02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:02,070
that there's been no independent
confirmation and no word from

2856
02:47:02,070 --> 02:47:04,200
the US authorities. Although
it's unlikely that there'll be

2857
02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:05,430
speaking a lot on this topic.

2858
02:47:06,600 --> 02:47:10,110
Adam Curry: This configure in
the document confuses me even

2859
02:47:10,110 --> 02:47:15,120
more. So the guy went to Italy,
he lived it up with Seth

2860
02:47:16,980 --> 02:47:19,800
John C Dvorak: went to the OP
Euro says went to the opera went

2861
02:47:19,800 --> 02:47:23,190
to the opera opera together
where we were living it up.

2862
02:47:23,220 --> 02:47:25,950
Usually if I'm going to the app,
I'm not going with a guy.

2863
02:47:27,180 --> 02:47:30,900
Unknown: What is the state of
play between China and the US

2864
02:47:30,900 --> 02:47:32,130
when it comes to espionage?

2865
02:47:32,670 --> 02:47:35,340
Well, there seems to be a rare
detailed disclosure from China

2866
02:47:35,340 --> 02:47:38,040
even though Beijing has long
claimed foreign forces are

2867
02:47:38,040 --> 02:47:41,040
trying to undermine the country.
It recently expanded its

2868
02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:44,730
definition of espionage and made
it slightly more vague things in

2869
02:47:44,730 --> 02:47:47,460
the private sector, including US
firms and that sort of thing.

2870
02:47:47,910 --> 02:47:50,040
And it comes as you say, amid
heightened tensions between the

2871
02:47:50,040 --> 02:47:53,130
two great powers over trade over
military, we've had those

2872
02:47:53,580 --> 02:47:57,570
restrictions of chips to China
by the US authorities. And it's

2873
02:47:57,570 --> 02:48:00,210
also the latest accusation of
espionage from either side. So

2874
02:48:00,210 --> 02:48:04,020
last week, we had two US Navy
sailors arrested in California

2875
02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:08,070
for allegedly providing material
to Chinese authorities. And also

2876
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:12,000
it comes a few months after the
CIA CIA director Bill Burns said

2877
02:48:12,000 --> 02:48:15,750
the agency was trying to expand
its Chinese network after a

2878
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:18,870
catastrophic exposure event in
which they will spies were lost.

2879
02:48:19,020 --> 02:48:21,690
Adam Curry: This is just a
takedown to CIA. This is just

2880
02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:26,940
more like ah, CIA is no good.
They can't even get a guy go to

2881
02:48:26,940 --> 02:48:28,320
the opera to stay safe.

2882
02:48:29,880 --> 02:48:32,760
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the FBI
wants to job. Some Yeah,

2883
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:35,220
something like that. You know,
the FBI is taken over the secret

2884
02:48:35,220 --> 02:48:38,160
services job. And also this I
don't know if I have a clip of

2885
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:43,710
this. But you know, the shameful
I don't? Is that the current

2886
02:48:43,710 --> 02:48:48,390
situation in Ecuador? I do have
a clip, actually. Because that

2887
02:48:48,390 --> 02:48:52,680
guy was shot. It turns out now
they're asking for the FBIs help

2888
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:57,450
about this assassination. Yeah.
And obviously this is a takeover

2889
02:48:57,450 --> 02:49:00,210
of Ecuador. We need to Ecuador
because of the oil. I think one

2890
02:49:00,210 --> 02:49:02,820
of our producers sent us some
information about what's going

2891
02:49:02,820 --> 02:49:06,720
on there did and this is like
what's the FBI doing in Ecuador.

2892
02:49:06,720 --> 02:49:09,330
And this is what again, brings
me back to my complaint about

2893
02:49:09,510 --> 02:49:14,490
FBI international the TV show by
Dick Wolf. When does the FBI

2894
02:49:14,490 --> 02:49:17,220
become this world police six
Colombian

2895
02:49:17,220 --> 02:49:19,290
Unknown: men are charged with
the assassination of an

2896
02:49:19,290 --> 02:49:22,380
Ecuadorian presidential
candidate. Officials say the

2897
02:49:22,380 --> 02:49:25,560
suspect and Wednesday shooting
are part of a drug trafficking

2898
02:49:25,560 --> 02:49:28,140
ring. The candidate had
campaigned on fighting crime and

2899
02:49:28,140 --> 02:49:31,020
corruption. A number of other
candidates have suspended their

2900
02:49:31,020 --> 02:49:32,760
campaigns in the wake of the
killing.

2901
02:49:33,060 --> 02:49:35,880
Adam Curry: Yeah, I have the
note about about the they called

2902
02:49:35,880 --> 02:49:38,520
the FBI they call the FBI not to
see it. They said hey, FBI, we

2903
02:49:38,520 --> 02:49:43,920
need your help. Come on in as
weird. I find it

2904
02:49:44,310 --> 02:49:47,130
John C Dvorak: peculiar this to
say the least. But I think they

2905
02:49:47,130 --> 02:49:49,560
were trying to take over
Ecuador. We've already got the

2906
02:49:49,560 --> 02:49:53,010
belt of Africa. And by the way,
I was looking into it. The belt

2907
02:49:53,010 --> 02:49:56,130
of Africa which does go from
coast to coast and all the

2908
02:49:56,130 --> 02:50:00,240
countries that are going to side
with Nigeria are all part of The

2909
02:50:00,330 --> 02:50:04,830
belt, the cool belt, which is
suspicious in itself, and of

2910
02:50:04,830 --> 02:50:06,540
course the Russians are somehow
there.

2911
02:50:06,960 --> 02:50:11,820
Adam Curry: How about the trans
African rail line? That China?

2912
02:50:11,820 --> 02:50:12,180
Yeah, well,

2913
02:50:12,180 --> 02:50:13,740
John C Dvorak: that was
originally going to go through

2914
02:50:13,740 --> 02:50:18,570
Central African Republic and
over to Cameroon. Now that's not

2915
02:50:18,570 --> 02:50:22,530
gonna happen i because Sudan is
part of this of the belt. So I

2916
02:50:22,530 --> 02:50:25,170
think that that part of it has
something to do with it, but I

2917
02:50:25,170 --> 02:50:30,150
have to Niger clips. Oh, hold on
a second of the Niger update,

2918
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:32,460
and then a little ditty about
France.

2919
02:50:32,490 --> 02:50:41,160
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because before
we do that, so we had well,

2920
02:50:41,160 --> 02:50:45,240
that's weird. We had an Africa
jingle. Someone made Africa,

2921
02:50:45,240 --> 02:50:49,110
I'll play your Niger stuff along
second making plans for Niger

2922
02:50:49,140 --> 02:50:52,320
Unknown: West African nations on
Friday worked on plans for

2923
02:50:52,320 --> 02:50:56,340
possible military intervention
in Asia. The regional bloc also

2924
02:50:56,340 --> 02:51:00,330
pledged to to enforce sanctions,
travel bans, and asset freezes

2925
02:51:00,570 --> 02:51:03,750
under Giunta, which ousted
former President Mohamed Bazoom.

2926
02:51:03,780 --> 02:51:08,160
On July 26, after a summit of
its heads of state ICA was

2927
02:51:08,190 --> 02:51:11,760
ordered the activation of a
standby force for possible use

2928
02:51:11,790 --> 02:51:15,180
against the Ginta. It said it
had not given up hope of a

2929
02:51:15,180 --> 02:51:18,240
peaceful resolution to the
crisis but that all options

2930
02:51:18,270 --> 02:51:22,020
including military action were
possible. Nigeria's President

2931
02:51:22,020 --> 02:51:22,890
full out Enugu

2932
02:51:24,420 --> 02:51:28,890
Adam Curry: from the community
of this summit

2933
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:33,960
Unknown: no is ticking of the
table,

2934
02:51:35,130 --> 02:51:39,990
including the use of force. It
is not clear how big the force

2935
02:51:39,990 --> 02:51:43,200
would be if it would actually
invade and which countries would

2936
02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:47,340
contribute. security analysts
said Ico was forced could take

2937
02:51:47,340 --> 02:51:50,310
weeks or longer to assemble
potentially leaving room for

2938
02:51:50,310 --> 02:51:53,430
negotiations. The Giunta has
said it would defend the country

2939
02:51:53,430 --> 02:51:54,930
against any foreign attack.

2940
02:51:54,960 --> 02:51:57,570
So there's still a lot of
unknowns. But this is a

2941
02:51:57,570 --> 02:52:01,080
significant next step, and
certainly an escalation of

2942
02:52:02,460 --> 02:52:06,780
tensions, at least between the
regional bloc and the offensive

2943
02:52:06,780 --> 02:52:10,320
block that seems to be forming
right now. Between Mali Burkina

2944
02:52:10,320 --> 02:52:11,820
Faso and Niger, specifically,

2945
02:52:12,599 --> 02:52:15,359
in the capital and yummy
residents condemned the military

2946
02:52:15,359 --> 02:52:16,259
intervention plan

2947
02:52:16,380 --> 02:52:21,960
plus ECOWAS needs to understand
what the people of various

2948
02:52:21,960 --> 02:52:25,620
member countries expect of it.
what is expected of ECOWAS is to

2949
02:52:25,620 --> 02:52:28,920
attack the causes of coup
d'etat, not the consequences.

2950
02:52:29,730 --> 02:52:36,780
Because the European Union and
the United States reiterated

2951
02:52:36,780 --> 02:52:39,660
concern about the conditions
under which Bazoom and his

2952
02:52:39,660 --> 02:52:41,010
family were being detained.

2953
02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:49,950
Adam Curry: Hold on. A little
longer. No, I know. I couldn't

2954
02:52:49,950 --> 02:52:50,460
find it.

2955
02:53:01,200 --> 02:53:03,030
John C Dvorak: Okay, yes.

2956
02:53:05,460 --> 02:53:07,920
Adam Curry: Sorry. I found it
though.

2957
02:53:08,460 --> 02:53:11,670
John C Dvorak: No punch. So
yeah, we're concerned about how

2958
02:53:11,670 --> 02:53:14,190
the other guy's being treated.
We didn't say anything about our

2959
02:53:14,190 --> 02:53:16,170
concerns about the place being
taken over

2960
02:53:16,200 --> 02:53:20,010
Unknown: No, no, we're not. So
here's part two.

2961
02:53:20,369 --> 02:53:23,879
Uranium rich Niger is a key ally
for the West in the fight

2962
02:53:23,879 --> 02:53:27,269
against Islamist militants in
the Sahel region until the coup,

2963
02:53:27,359 --> 02:53:30,899
it was also aligned with the
West after neighboring Mali, and

2964
02:53:30,899 --> 02:53:34,919
others turned against former
colonial power France, in favor

2965
02:53:34,919 --> 02:53:39,029
of closer ties with Russia.
France said late on Thursday, it

2966
02:53:39,029 --> 02:53:42,929
fully backed all the conclusions
of ECOWAS meeting, but it stayed

2967
02:53:42,929 --> 02:53:46,889
clear of outlining any concrete
support it could give to any

2968
02:53:46,889 --> 02:53:48,239
potential intervention.

2969
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:51,420
John C Dvorak: So we booted
France out.

2970
02:53:51,630 --> 02:53:53,430
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that
was part of the plan. I mean,

2971
02:53:53,430 --> 02:53:58,410
France needed for the uranium
because they still use maybe I

2972
02:53:58,410 --> 02:54:01,680
think used to be 70 bucks,
probably 55 60%. Atomic,

2973
02:54:01,710 --> 02:54:03,240
John C Dvorak: I think it's more
I still think it's over in the

2974
02:54:03,240 --> 02:54:05,340
70s 70s. So that's

2975
02:54:05,370 --> 02:54:08,310
Adam Curry: out of the gas
pipeline to this is why it's not

2976
02:54:08,310 --> 02:54:10,260
even about the Africa. It's
about Europe. We're just

2977
02:54:10,260 --> 02:54:11,280
screwing Europe.

2978
02:54:11,880 --> 02:54:14,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this cuts
off if the French were to buy

2979
02:54:14,340 --> 02:54:17,280
uranium they can buy it from the
Russians.

2980
02:54:17,340 --> 02:54:18,600
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you Hill.

2981
02:54:19,260 --> 02:54:24,540
John C Dvorak: And yeah, this is
France got screwed on the wheel.

2982
02:54:24,540 --> 02:54:27,930
I'm sure they were extracting
uranium for next to nothing.

2983
02:54:27,960 --> 02:54:31,320
Adam Curry: We will continue to
monitor this as we learn more

2984
02:54:31,320 --> 02:54:33,300
about Africa than we ever wanted
to know.

2985
02:54:33,630 --> 02:54:35,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I didn't
want to know anything.

2986
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:39,270
Adam Curry: To two quickies that
we have to play just to get them

2987
02:54:39,270 --> 02:54:39,870
on record.

2988
02:54:39,900 --> 02:54:41,970
Unknown: Tonight. disgraced
former billionaire and

2989
02:54:41,970 --> 02:54:46,110
cryptocurrency CEO Sam bank
ministries sent back to jail

2990
02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:49,320
after prosecutors accused him of
giving a document to a media

2991
02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:53,910
outlet to intimidate a witness a
judge revoking a 31 year old

2992
02:54:53,940 --> 02:54:59,460
$250 million bail remanding him
into the custody of US Marshals

2993
02:54:59,640 --> 02:55:03,390
proxy Get her say bank been free
try to discredit a trial witness

2994
02:55:03,420 --> 02:55:06,720
and taint the jury pool when he
shared excerpts of his ex

2995
02:55:06,720 --> 02:55:09,900
girlfriend Caroline Ellison's
personal documents with the New

2996
02:55:09,900 --> 02:55:13,920
York Times Ellison led bank Ben
Fried's Alameda Research Fund

2997
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:16,680
she's pleaded guilty and agreed
to cooperate in the

2998
02:55:16,680 --> 02:55:20,130
investigation into allegations
bank Ben freed defrauded

2999
02:55:20,130 --> 02:55:23,880
customers and lenders of his now
bankrupt cryptocurrency company.

3000
02:55:23,910 --> 02:55:27,810
FTX is speaking with our George
Stephanopoulos late last year.

3001
02:55:27,870 --> 02:55:28,350
I'm trying

3002
02:55:28,350 --> 02:55:31,650
to focus on what I can do going
forward to be helpful.

3003
02:55:32,070 --> 02:55:33,390
And you know,

3004
02:55:34,050 --> 02:55:37,980
Adam Curry: you know, that
cleaning everything up. Every

3005
02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:43,050
everybody you know he needed to
go away. He's dangerous. He's

3006
02:55:43,050 --> 02:55:47,160
dangerous. He knows way too much
about all the campaign

3007
02:55:47,160 --> 02:55:50,610
contributions he knows about the
money to Ukraine. He knows too

3008
02:55:50,610 --> 02:55:53,460
much. Speaking of Ukraine. This
happened

3009
02:55:53,520 --> 02:55:56,040
Unknown: tonight, President
Solinsky announcing a crackdown

3010
02:55:56,040 --> 02:55:59,550
on corruption firing every
regional military recruitment

3011
02:55:59,550 --> 02:56:02,670
chief ABCs chief foreign
correspondent Ian Pannell is in

3012
02:56:02,670 --> 02:56:03,180
Ukraine.

3013
02:56:05,430 --> 02:56:08,490
A devastating Russian missile
strike in zipper region in the

3014
02:56:08,490 --> 02:56:12,780
SouthEast of Ukraine. video
circulating online showing the

3015
02:56:12,780 --> 02:56:15,690
moment one of the ballistic
missiles flew overhead

3016
02:56:15,690 --> 02:56:20,040
yesterday, and the terrifying
moment it lands exploding.

3017
02:56:20,250 --> 02:56:23,880
Residents running for their
lives to missiles slamming next

3018
02:56:23,880 --> 02:56:27,870
to a hotel one woman died 90
were injured including four

3019
02:56:27,870 --> 02:56:31,590
children according to the state
governor. And tonight, President

3020
02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:35,160
Solinsky firing every single
regional military enlistment

3021
02:56:35,160 --> 02:56:39,060
chief across Ukraine amid a
major corruption scandal.

3022
02:56:39,450 --> 02:56:42,690
Lindsey some of these officers
are accused of taking bribes so

3023
02:56:42,690 --> 02:56:45,840
people can dodge military
enlistment and the Lensky saying

3024
02:56:46,020 --> 02:56:48,900
the way they treat actual
Warriors is immoral.

3025
02:56:50,640 --> 02:56:53,130
John C Dvorak: A terrible
version of that story because

3026
02:56:53,130 --> 02:56:58,740
they interrupted it with a drone
strike. I have my stories now

3027
02:56:58,740 --> 02:57:02,160
much better. But I have another
clip that at least bring doesn't

3028
02:57:02,190 --> 02:57:02,820
bring her up.

3029
02:57:02,940 --> 02:57:05,700
Adam Curry: Yeah, brings in
leaves the drone strike intact.

3030
02:57:05,700 --> 02:57:06,690
Yes, Ukrainian

3031
02:57:06,930 --> 02:57:08,880
John C Dvorak: moves the drone
strike out and keeps this

3032
02:57:08,880 --> 02:57:11,820
corruption thing. What is going
on with these? anybody in their

3033
02:57:11,820 --> 02:57:14,220
right mind? They're bailing out
of the country?

3034
02:57:15,180 --> 02:57:18,660
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, yes. And
we're bailing out too. This is

3035
02:57:18,660 --> 02:57:20,250
the beginning. This is always
the Lensky.

3036
02:57:22,650 --> 02:57:23,490
John C Dvorak: Son of Ukraine.

3037
02:57:23,760 --> 02:57:26,700
Unknown: Ukrainian state
investigators have uncovered

3038
02:57:26,700 --> 02:57:29,850
some shady business deals at
business Erie recruitment

3039
02:57:29,850 --> 02:57:34,650
offices to paint the picture.
112 criminal cases have been

3040
02:57:34,650 --> 02:57:38,580
opened, exposing officials
allegedly making illegal money,

3041
02:57:38,790 --> 02:57:42,510
and they're also accused of
transporting new recruits across

3042
02:57:42,510 --> 02:57:46,260
borders to other countries. Now
how much money was actually

3043
02:57:46,260 --> 02:57:50,640
taken is still unknown. However,
all of this follows a scandal in

3044
02:57:50,640 --> 02:57:54,960
the Ukrainian city of Odessa. A
recruitment officials family in

3045
02:57:54,960 --> 02:57:58,320
Spain was found owning
properties worth millions of

3046
02:57:58,320 --> 02:58:02,640
dollars. The corruption scandal
comes at a time when Ukraine's

3047
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:05,910
long awaited counter offensive
has been hampered by Russian

3048
02:58:05,910 --> 02:58:09,810
defense lines. Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky

3049
02:58:09,840 --> 02:58:13,320
quickly responded to the
corruption allegations and fired

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02:58:13,350 --> 02:58:16,710
all military recruitment
officers in the country. And he

3051
02:58:16,710 --> 02:58:17,400
said this

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02:58:18,240 --> 02:58:23,100
system should be run by people
who know exactly what war is and

3053
02:58:23,100 --> 02:58:27,630
why cynicism and bribery in
times of war constitute treason.

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02:58:27,780 --> 02:58:30,630
Adam Curry: This is a message
and I'm not exactly sure what it

3055
02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:34,950
is. But if it's about exposing
more corruption, there's a lot

3056
02:58:34,950 --> 02:58:39,420
to come. There's the entire
telegram channels filled with

3057
02:58:39,450 --> 02:58:44,130
high ranking Ukrainian officials
in foreign countries in Western

3058
02:58:44,130 --> 02:58:50,880
Europe in Austria. They've got a
boo god, he's very raw. They've

3059
02:58:50,880 --> 02:58:55,740
got Lamborghinis, Ferraris Rolls
Royces. They've got multimillion

3060
02:58:55,740 --> 02:58:57,030
dollar condos

3061
02:58:57,570 --> 02:58:59,250
John C Dvorak: thanks to the
American taxpayer.

3062
02:58:59,280 --> 02:59:02,100
Adam Curry: It's all our money
of course. So maybe this they're

3063
02:59:02,100 --> 02:59:04,980
finally winding this down. I
mean, Africa is heating up. This

3064
02:59:04,980 --> 02:59:08,910
has got to go. But how do we how
do we close it out? How do we

3065
02:59:08,910 --> 02:59:09,720
finish it?

3066
02:59:09,810 --> 02:59:12,450
John C Dvorak: They don't have
an exit strategy. We know that.

3067
02:59:13,020 --> 02:59:13,680
Yeah.

3068
02:59:15,690 --> 02:59:20,700
Adam Curry: No peace. What a
crazy idea. We could just have

3069
02:59:20,700 --> 02:59:21,270
peace.

3070
02:59:22,530 --> 02:59:24,270
John C Dvorak: Well, not with
Zelinsky there, they're gonna

3071
02:59:24,270 --> 02:59:27,960
have to do something about that
guy. Where's Halle Jones was his

3072
02:59:27,960 --> 02:59:29,010
legacy scenario.

3073
02:59:29,160 --> 02:59:33,570
Adam Curry: We'll have we'll
have peace. Oh, I know what's

3074
02:59:33,570 --> 02:59:34,980
going to happen to Zelinsky

3075
02:59:36,240 --> 02:59:37,770
Unknown: sucked into a jet
engine.

3076
02:59:39,750 --> 02:59:42,870
John C Dvorak: In a mood if He's
smart, he's going to go to start

3077
02:59:43,260 --> 02:59:45,150
Switzerland as fast as he can. I

3078
02:59:45,150 --> 02:59:48,120
Adam Curry: hear Madrid is the
new place to hang out. That's

3079
02:59:48,120 --> 02:59:51,120
where all the elites are Madrid
because Madrid is like you can

3080
02:59:51,150 --> 02:59:55,140
completely live in luxury in a
nice big town. It's

3081
02:59:55,200 --> 02:59:56,100
John C Dvorak: fun Madrid

3082
02:59:56,130 --> 02:59:58,650
Adam Curry: Madrid is that's
where a lot of the royal family

3083
02:59:58,650 --> 03:00:02,100
are hanging out now. Madrid
seems the place to be.

3084
03:00:02,700 --> 03:00:04,470
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well,
that's where he should go then

3085
03:00:04,500 --> 03:00:07,440
Adam Curry: Mr. Lensky out,
Vicki Newland puts in some new

3086
03:00:07,440 --> 03:00:09,780
people. They go for peace.

3087
03:00:10,109 --> 03:00:12,269
John C Dvorak: But they got a
weather here's what they have to

3088
03:00:12,299 --> 03:00:16,049
get but they can't just let
Solinsky escape and just leave

3089
03:00:16,109 --> 03:00:21,149
the very they gotta he's got to
be asked to buy some general who

3090
03:00:21,149 --> 03:00:25,799
some phony baloney ousting he's
going to flee to Madrid How

3091
03:00:25,799 --> 03:00:26,129
about the

3092
03:00:26,130 --> 03:00:29,250
Adam Curry: people how about the
people know that people

3093
03:00:29,250 --> 03:00:31,500
John C Dvorak: won't do
anything? No obviously he

3094
03:00:31,500 --> 03:00:37,800
wouldn't happen by now it's got
to be a general some guy and

3095
03:00:37,800 --> 03:00:41,670
then he's gonna get he's going
to escape narrowly escape and

3096
03:00:41,670 --> 03:00:44,040
end up in Madrid or wherever he
wants to go

3097
03:00:44,070 --> 03:00:46,290
Adam Curry: I don't I don't like
your scenario. I think jet

3098
03:00:46,290 --> 03:00:49,890
engine is much better. You've
been more fun

3099
03:00:49,890 --> 03:00:52,980
John C Dvorak: hoping people get
sucked into jet engines for over

3100
03:00:52,980 --> 03:00:53,610
a year you

3101
03:00:53,610 --> 03:00:56,910
Adam Curry: wait you wait it's
gonna happen. We got a jet

3102
03:00:56,910 --> 03:01:03,570
engine in someone's future
that's it

3103
03:01:03,990 --> 03:01:05,220
John C Dvorak: cleaning up that
mess.

3104
03:01:06,090 --> 03:01:09,510
Adam Curry: No. Coming to you
from right across from Schiphol

3105
03:01:09,510 --> 03:01:14,790
Plaza enjoyed now now is the
time hurry while stocks last

3106
03:01:14,790 --> 03:01:18,990
best price. We've got under Show
mixes from the traveling tacos.

3107
03:01:18,990 --> 03:01:22,500
We've got the techno experts and
Sir Chris Wilson where his Sir

3108
03:01:22,500 --> 03:01:27,720
Chris we miss him. Up next. I
know AGENDA stream.com We have a

3109
03:01:27,720 --> 03:01:33,600
random thoughts with Sir Darren.
Oh, very nice. So you want to

3110
03:01:33,600 --> 03:01:38,100
stick around for that? And next
time you hear from me I will be

3111
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:43,080
in the southern part of Spain
with a travel report and a

3112
03:01:43,080 --> 03:01:46,800
Spanish report. Right now coming
to you from Schiphol Airport

3113
03:01:46,800 --> 03:01:49,200
right across from runway two
seven in the Netherlands in the

3114
03:01:49,200 --> 03:01:51,090
morning everybody I'm Adam
curry.

3115
03:01:51,330 --> 03:01:54,240
John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern
Silicon Valley where everyone is

3116
03:01:54,240 --> 03:01:58,470
living it up but me on Jhansi
Dvorak we return

3117
03:01:58,470 --> 03:02:00,720
Adam Curry: on Thursday right
here on no agenda for more

3118
03:02:00,720 --> 03:02:04,830
deconstruction remember us at
the borak.org/na Until then

3119
03:02:04,830 --> 03:02:06,960
adios smartphones Hui Hui.

3120
03:02:19,650 --> 03:02:35,760
Unknown: Whisper to my life the
environment 1.9 $1.9 trillion

3121
03:02:35,760 --> 03:02:36,210
dollars?

3122
03:03:21,810 --> 03:03:22,380
Know.

3123
03:04:55,440 --> 03:04:57,480
Adam Curry: Hundreds of 1000s of
homeless eating from garbage

3124
03:04:57,480 --> 03:04:58,500
cans in America

3125
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:02,160
Unknown: Get on the streets of
San Francisco and then there's

3126
03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:03,780
nothing better when you're
pooping on

3127
03:05:03,780 --> 03:05:05,130
Adam Curry: the streets in San
Francisco

3128
03:05:05,940 --> 03:05:11,040
Unknown: called around the
world. Be careful where you put

3129
03:05:11,040 --> 03:05:21,030
your feet here and the smelly
Thrive streets here in San

3130
03:05:21,030 --> 03:05:28,560
Francisco drop on the New York

3131
03:05:36,300 --> 03:05:48,720
junkies it'll be crazy to try.
And btw five streets doesn't

3132
03:05:48,720 --> 03:05:53,160
matter if you're just as long as
you don't

3133
03:05:59,130 --> 03:06:09,390
blame it on President Trump.
We've been in the streets come

3134
03:06:09,390 --> 03:06:14,730
on down with us streets.

3135
03:06:14,910 --> 03:06:19,920
Adam Curry: How did anyone know
that the bag of poop on the San

3136
03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:25,290
Francisco street? How did anyone
know that? It was 20 pounds 20

3137
03:06:25,290 --> 03:06:27,780
pounds of human waste. Like did
anyone

3138
03:06:28,200 --> 03:06:30,450
John C Dvorak: know? You're
walking down the street? What is

3139
03:06:30,450 --> 03:06:33,720
that bill? It looks like a bag
of poop. Hold on a second. I've

3140
03:06:33,720 --> 03:06:35,340
got a postal scale with me.

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03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:47,370
Unknown: MoPhO vorak.org/n A

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03:06:50,250 --> 03:06:51,150
Oh my god.