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Adam Curry: Reading is good
kids. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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for 1720 23 This is your award
winning nation media

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assassination episode 1591. This
is no agenda, making mascara run

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and broadcasting live from the
heart of the country here in

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fingerings. Number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where, you know,

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I thought hostess was out of
business and they weren't making

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Twinkies anymore. I'm Jhansi,
Dvorak

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Adam Curry: and Bushkill. Are
you eating Twinkies now?

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John C Dvorak: No, but I noticed
that the company was just sold

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for like $4 billion. And I
thought they were out of

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business. And they were, you
know, defunct years ago. Couple

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of two, three years ago.
Twinkies are not going to be

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made any more houses out of
business, though. Good. There

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goes those chocolate cupcakes.

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Adam Curry: That's funny. You
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remember something like that
now. Not you say it. Twinkies.

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No, I have no clips on. Okay,
well, that's great. So what else

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have you been working on? You've
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I hear.

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John C Dvorak: Yes. Sell buy.
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Adam Curry: now that you bring
that up? Wow. Let me get this

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going. Right now I have. I have
a pretend not that I have a

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stock tip. We don't do stock
tips. But I think there is some

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information that has come out in
the Wall Street Journal today.

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And also on the Wall Street
Journal podcast, that can show

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us what companies we should be
short selling, which if I

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understand the mechanism, when
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company stock goes down, you
make money Correct?

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John C Dvorak: You sell that as
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of what you'd normally do? You'd
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at 25?

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Adam Curry: Okay, I think any
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is a shore sword short sell,

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Unknown: is feedback now too
harsh, more companies are opting

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for a gentler term feed forward.
Wall Street Journal reporter

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Alexandra Burwell joins me. So
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the difference between feedback
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The concept is not feed a friend

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Adam Curry: feed forward instead
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Unknown: The idea is that feed
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anxiety. It's a little bit
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feedback, they think immediately
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the bad things my boss is going
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that we heard over and over was
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employees weren't having regular
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virtual. After the pandemic,
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work. Companies sort of changed
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management. They rethought the
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decided that it was important to
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productive. And in fact it just
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be clear, are we talking about
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come to know as feedback or do
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Adam Curry: It gets better some
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this already

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Unknown: changing the actual
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It depends on the company
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revamping its review process.
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the word with feed forward or
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perspectives. And other terms,
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glossing over the idea that
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important. rebranding doesn't
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a number of companies that are
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And as part of that, they want
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comfortable in the process. And
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rethinking the words they use,
replacing feedback with feed

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forward reviews with connect
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sessions more often, you know,
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Truly makes for a more
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workplace. John,

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Adam Curry: I need to connect
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John C Dvorak: We need to
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overdue.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, any company
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going to lose. This says

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John C Dvorak: Microsoft of
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the other ones he got sucked
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which really hurt the company
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Adam Curry: haven't talked about
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around. Yeah, no, it wasn't just
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it all snow everybody.

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John C Dvorak: There was a big
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Welch's invention.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, stack ranking.
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Unknown: no winning. We don't
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atmosphere but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hog and share a

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Adam Curry: Now it's interesting
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out today I read the article.
The article is even worse. It's

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filled with all kinds of terms
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John C Dvorak: Wall Street
Journal think it's doing it's

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supposed to be a newspaper. What
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Harvard Business Review trying
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how businesses run. These are
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run a business. Hello?

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Adam Curry: Well, if you if you
can't do you teach, there was a

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guy that kind of got viral on,
on on X on the socials maybe two

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weeks ago, and even some, some
Magga country people sent it to

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me saying that this guy has the
wrong idea. I don't know if they

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if they wonder if they
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Because he was What are you
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is a Tim Garner. And this is a
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Unknown: have workers become the
bosses. That's what Gartner

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Group founder, Tim Gardner seems
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Financial Review property summit
workers that this is a problem

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that needs to change.

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I think the problem that we've
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have people decided they didn't
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anymore through COVID. And that
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productivity, you know, traders
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productivity. You know, they
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lot to do not too much in the
last few years. And we need to

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see that change. We need to see
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has to jump 40 50% In my view,
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economy, we need to remind
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employer, not the other way
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Wow, unemployment has jumped
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governor also said we have to
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arrogance among workers.

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Adam Curry: This is really
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that the workers are out of
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as we just heard is bad. It's
just it's biblically bad. You

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know, you you need

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John C Dvorak: our shows been
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the noodle boy,

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Adam Curry: yes, yes. However,
some people thought that his

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solution was just a horrible
idea. And I'm like,

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's all
go broke. That'll fix things.

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Adam Curry: It's not exactly
what the Federal Reserve

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John C Dvorak: property there
you go. There's a solution to

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Adam Curry: Well, I think
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mean, poverty is on deck. I
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West, the United States in
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that's taking place is like
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who make I think manufacturing
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, thank you
for manufacturing. Yes.

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Adam Curry: We'll be we'll be
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our own Uyghurs which will be
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happening in Chicago this
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Unknown: In heights Church of
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migrant crisis hosted by
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packed inside and out.

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First of all, they definitely
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they chose a small venue so that
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community from being able to
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up with fall and winter fast
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Johnson is looking to move
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into what the city is calling
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This is essentially like a
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are putting a BandAid on a huge
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one potential site two former
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does a bad idea. They want to
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But it's coming with pushback,
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leaders to focus on the needs of
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the residents of this community.
And we demand that they do not

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put these people here. They're
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police station. What makes us
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follow the rules here.

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Residents tell us they are in
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health facilities and housing
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end of this year, the migrant
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a quarter of a billion dollars.

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Adam Curry: I like calling it
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You're welcome here. The winter
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John C Dvorak: cold there. Play
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Adam Curry: oh yeah, no. This is
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Unknown: tensions rose today in
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crisis. Lawmakers tried to
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met with frustrated protesters.
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Representative Alexandria Ocasio
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City, but they were quickly
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close the border. Ocasio Cortez
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Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan,
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illegal immigrants. She called
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help deal with the crisis, a man
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frustration to the lawmakers.

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How's that gonna unity to the
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you're taking care of illegal
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the solution to the migrant
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close the border. The only
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Mexico like the policy was
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member have to wait in Colombia
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and another man voiced his
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right. You have to come through
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people that are waiting to get
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line and they don't care. We
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Did not vet it. Many of my ex
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countries. So this is not about
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Adam Curry: It's not about hey,
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about hey, take

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John C Dvorak: my many X Men,
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Adam Curry: I think we should
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should probably be the the new
term because that's all there

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going to be with AOC Why might I
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auditioned for this role? She
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always present the actress, an
actress and not a great one. She

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auditioned and has been MK
altered into repeating talking

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points. And she even asked if
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to citizenship

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John C Dvorak: for these well I
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problem is is that they would
they had her talking and it was

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so noisy with over with people
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bet in that last clip? I cut out
two chunks of it because of that

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it's too much issue. They can't
she can't get a word in palace.

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Adam Curry: How's the Adobe
product? Did that work? Did you

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John C Dvorak: Oh no, it was
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a cacophony of venture was a
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Unknown: And this man explained
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income families living in New
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they have congestion pricing in
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have to pay $20 to drive it to
monad. How are the low income

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families supposed to survive?
How are we supposed to raise our

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kids? Why everyone gets
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two systems of justice in this
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Adam Curry: Finally, at O'Hare,
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John C Dvorak: by the way, kudos
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John C Dvorak: I mean, it it
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It's finally caught up to

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Adam Curry: yeah, but it's it's
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this. It's just these are people
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John C Dvorak: Well, this is
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marketer alone. He's sitting
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Adam Curry: and the Dutch Prime
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Margarita. What is that guy
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John C Dvorak: Those two women
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Adam Curry: Well, I'm not sure
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my my niece and my nephew. And
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Adam Curry: And I don't know if
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know, the actor from Ukraine, he
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and they're gonna go in, they're
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partners do not help us, it
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John C Dvorak: This guy has been
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thing after another and we keep
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edition of current affairs,
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Adam Curry: good. Can you want
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they're hinting at a pull out?
What was nice

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John C Dvorak: was basically the
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it's signaling you don't know
what messaging of some sort. And

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they say, in the article Kyiv
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pull back by the West and so in
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Adam Curry: Well, what's going
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whole different story about
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Unknown: This year, it's bigger
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have turned up to London's Excel
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sent delegations. If you're
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your country's armed forces.
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in Ukraine exerts a strong
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the global arms industry, much
in evidence or drones of all

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sizes and capabilities. And
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battlefield systems to defeat
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in our market, we can see
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drones used every day in huge
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we are addressing with our
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the top notch control system to
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thought were no longer needed.
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budgets are going up everywhere.
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reconfigured. Challenges. That
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of defense contracts are up for
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Adam Curry: Billions are up for
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now literal directed energy
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drones. zap them out of the sky.
And we knew this is what Erica

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Eric Schmidt was talking about.
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like God drones drones. That's
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drones little drones. And there
it is a whole conference 300

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different country. Exhibitors
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It's this is and it's just like
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cool. It's great. Yeah, arms.
Cool. It wasn't not Smedley

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Butler who said more is a
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was
General Smith, General Smedley

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Adam Curry: and it is a an
enormous racket. Yeah, what else

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what a scam. And every no one
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all pacified. Sitting at home.
Do we don't we don't notice the

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the writer strike or the actor
strike? There's plenty of good

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stuff on Netflix. There's plenty
of stuff to watch. No. Has

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anyone complained that the late
night shows are off the air. Has

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anyone missed

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John C Dvorak: this one at all?
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Adam Curry: degree like wow, the

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John C Dvorak: guys are
complaining the guy that worked

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Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah. And did
you see that? They're trying to

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get rid of Kimmel like Oh, well.
Some kind of report came out.

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He's drunk. Hello. That we had
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John C Dvorak: Fallon.

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Adam Curry: Fallon. I'm sorry.
Yep. Sorry. We had boots on the

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ground reporting that when he
went in. Oh, he's hammered every

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day. He's hammered. Yeah, yeah,
this is

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John C Dvorak: This is like the
real race you want to get rid of

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because he wasn't toeing the
line with anti Trump jokes.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. True.
Speaking is pretty dahlias

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John C Dvorak: job tried to try
to maintain a middle ground with

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his with his political humor,
while the other two guys are

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just slamming. Kimmel if I
remember when Trump was in

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office, I was literally crying
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Trump was. I remember that. Yes.
Oh, yeah. Oh, here's a comedy

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show by the way. Yeah, Trump's
bad he's hurting children. He's

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got to go we shouldn't have a
president like this ridiculous

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recall

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Adam Curry: comedy show Saturday
Night Live opening with the

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Ukrainian national anthem. Yeah,
now the real humor is on tick

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tock people. That's where it's
funny that's what people are

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watching low mood book. Tina sat
down on the couch he said Let's

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watch some reels. She doesn't we
don't have tick tock but she's

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let's watch them reels

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John C Dvorak: me do wave stop
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on the line. It's on the web.

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Adam Curry: Yes, but I don't
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have it on her phone.

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John C Dvorak: I don't either.
And I watch it all the time. I'm

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sorry to hear that. You know
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should mention this. Just first,
so people should know. I use a

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VPN most of the time on my
machine. It's just safer. And I

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use VPNs out of South American
countries because there's a

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couple are just so fast. It's
like you wouldn't even know

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you're on a VPN. So when I'm on
an Argentinian VPN and I just

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happen to hit tic tac with not
as a sign on but just as I'm now

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looks to tic tac like I'm in
Argentina. They have the same

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dipshit girls in Spanish. During
those stupid dances they do well

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Adam Curry: what tick tock is
tick tock. Why you

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John C Dvorak: What is it what
why are you doing this you're

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making you look like an idiot.

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Adam Curry: Do you understand
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It is literally the music

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industry. There's so much money
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successful tick tock dancer, or
whatever you've created on tick

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this is and probably no surprise

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Unknown: now to tick tock and
the European regulators slapping

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the social media app with a
nearly $370 million fine,

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accusing the Chinese own
platform to failing to protect

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children's privacy. Alexis
christoforous joins us now with

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that. Good morning, Alex. Oh,
yes. Alexis Kumar.

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Good morning NGO that
investigation by Ireland's data

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protection commission finds the
sign up process for teams made

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their tick tock accounts public
by default, allowing anyone to

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view and comment on their
videos. It also allowed adults

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to direct messaging for teams
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teens want?

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Adam Curry: Yes, it's softcore
porn. It's borderline cruelty

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against animals in most cases,
funny but cruelty against

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animals. And yes, that's what
they want it Yes, it is weird.

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Teens search on Tik Tok. No one
goes to Google anymore. Finally

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Unknown: direct messaging for
teams without their consent, and

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a statement Tiktok saying we
respectfully disagree with the

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decision, particularly the level
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latest in a global crackdown on
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universities, as well as many
state and federal agencies have

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banned the app on their devices
out of concern. It would give

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China access to sensitive user
data. And Montana passed a law

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that bans the apps use in the
state all together and it's not

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just tick tock Instagram
WhatsApp and the owner Mehta

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among the tech giants hit with
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Adam Curry: So the EU playing a
big game oh yeah, we understand

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how this works is that China's
gonna get it all tick tock, bad,

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bad. But listen, how the queen
of the European Union, you know,

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where is Queen Ursula? How much
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I mean, artificial intelligence.
This is the future. And she

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really, that she is she is
accepting artificial

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intelligence into her life.

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Unknown: I believe in the power
of artificial intelligence. Just

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look at the winner of last
year's future unicorn award

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party from Denmark. They are
using AI and voice recognition

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to help doctors predict heart
attacks. It's simply amazing,

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amazing. And indeed, the
possibilities of AI are immense.

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I don't have to tell you AI can
turn on wind turbines and can

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produce more energy as the
weather changes for

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Adam Curry: Wow, AI can detect a
weather change and turn on

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winter being sampled.

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Unknown: AI can detect the
Cybertech faster than any human

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being.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. What about
MGM?

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for example, in mammography way
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Adam Curry: So the EU if I
didn't know she was a medical

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doctor, actually, or at least
not one that's qualified to

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speak about demography. So the
EU is doing the same thing here

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in the US. And they're lining
everybody up and getting

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everybody together in the
setting all up because they want

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to control it. They want to make
AI your new god. And an AI is

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right. And AI is smart, and AI
does everything and I could not

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resist seaspan got Elon Musk for
one minute statement, which is

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much better audio than anything
we've had so far outside of the

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tech, the private tech meeting
where they were divvying up

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something. I think it's very
telling what he's saying here.

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Unknown: I think it was, it was
very nice discussion. Actually.

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I'm on some of the smartest
people in the world.

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Adam Curry: Okay, let's stop
right there. Can we stop saying

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that these are some of the
smartest people in the world?

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They're not the smartest people
in the world. They run

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profitable companies. They're
businessmen. Yeah, that are

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that. Does that make them the
smartest people?

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John C Dvorak: No, generally
speaking, when you're new, and

460
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:21,000
you were in college, in the
olden days, the business guys

461
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were the dummies, the dummies
would go into business. The

462
00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:29,310
smart guys are theoretical
physicists. None of these guys

463
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are that.

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Adam Curry: So he says it was
very civilized. Not sure why

465
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he's saying it's civilized,
maybe that can only be because

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there was money to be made. And
these are some of the smartest

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people in the world, which he of
course, conveniently includes

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himself in this group.

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Unknown: Some of the smartest
people in the world. So I

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thought Senator Schumer did a
great

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Adam Curry: job. Now listen to
what he's saying. I did not

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bring it

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John C Dvorak: I can understand
it, where he's saying he's

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mumbling. You're talking over
it.

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Adam Curry: Senator Schumer did
great to hear Senator Schumer

476
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:13,050
did a great service to humanity
here. So he's sucking up to

477
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Schumer for some reason,

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Unknown: along with the rest of
the Senate. And I think we'll I

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think something good will come
of this. This, I think this

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Adam Curry: history has been
very important for this meeting

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is going to go down in history
is very, very important.

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Unknown: The future of
civilization. did ask everyone

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to raise their hands in the room
to see if they were in favor of

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AI regulation. And I believe
almost everyone did.

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Adam Curry: Now this is
interesting, because you keep

486
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hearing that Schumer asked Is
everyone in favor of AI

487
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regulation. And you keep hearing
almost everyone did who didn't?

488
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Who didn't? Who was not for
this? I'd like to run

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John C Dvorak: to try to get in
it. You know, AI? You we know

490
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that regulation is the keep
people out fixed prices. Yeah,

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Unknown: that's a good sign. I
think the probability of there

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being some sort of regulatory
agency that stands on its own,

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similar to the FA or FCC is
likely at some point. And the

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reason that I've been such an
advocate for AI safety in

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advance of sort of anything
terrible happening is that I

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think the consequences of AI
going wrong are severe. So we

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have to be proactive rather than
reactive.

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Adam Curry: So let's talk about
the cases of AI being severe,

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you don't need AI to be severe.
And I only just heard about this

500
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case. In Australia, it's very
similar to what happened with

501
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the the Dutch Child Care Benefit
scandal, which which the cabinet

502
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resigned over because they
essentially Brandin algo, on on

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taxes and returns and social
social payments. And they went

504
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to 10s of 1000s of parents and
said Now you receive too much

505
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:10,380
too many child benefits. You owe
us 50,000 euros, and this made

506
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people lose their jobs, their
homes, some people committed

507
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suicide. This seems to be some
kind of trend. Amongst the world

508
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is Australia had something very
similar known as Robo debt,

509
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which happened four years ago.
And it's just now coming to

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light.

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John C Dvorak: It was wrong. It
was illegal. It should never

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have happened and it should
never happen again. Under the

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former Liberal government, this
scheme unlawfully raised $1.76

514
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:54,570
billion in alleged debts against
some 526,000 Australians. This

515
00:29:54,570 --> 00:30:01,530
tragedy cause stress, anxiety,
financial destitution, And sadly

516
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had a very real human toll. For
more than four years, liberal

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ministers dismissed or ignored
the significant concerns that

518
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were raised over and over again,
including in the parliament, but

519
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:20,040
also by victims by public
servants by community

520
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organizations. And, of course,
legal experts. The Royal

521
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,870
Commission has found that
liberal party's robardet scheme

522
00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:33,810
was, quote, a crude and cruel
mechanism, neither fair nor

523
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legal. And it made many people
feel like criminals. In essence,

524
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people were traumatized on the
off chance they might owe money.

525
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It was a costly failure of
public administration, in both

526
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human and economic terms.

527
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Adam Curry: So now that I see
this happening, and I'm sure

528
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there will be other countries
that had similar things take

529
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place, could this be a setup to
bringing in the smartest people

530
00:31:01,229 --> 00:31:08,189
in the world to have this done?
Right. You know what I mean? I

531
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Unknown: don't think so. No. And
I'm gonna do that

532
00:31:13,770 --> 00:31:16,620
Adam Curry: while governments
are deploying this. This is what

533
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:19,320
the IRS in the United States is
deploying they've, they've

534
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,940
announced it, we're going to run

535
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:24,870
John C Dvorak: Robo ai ai. Yeah.
But that's just that's not going

536
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:28,320
to be for this. What's the
difference? And then I gotta do

537
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,690
it. Anyway. Good day. It doesn't
work. They?

538
00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:34,320
Adam Curry: Yes, they are, of
course, they're going to do it.

539
00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:38,520
In fact, I have. I have a
where's it I think I have a

540
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:45,150
boots on the ground report about
this. Was this. One of our one

541
00:31:45,150 --> 00:31:50,160
of our producers had this happen
to them? I may not have it

542
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:56,700
handy. The the crux of it is
they have a company that I think

543
00:31:56,970 --> 00:32:02,910
brings in $50,000 a year and the
IRS hit them up for $500,000 in

544
00:32:02,910 --> 00:32:06,810
unpaid taxes, which was run
automatically and they can't

545
00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:12,060
even get anyone to pick up the
phone. And listen to him.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that
doesn't make a lot of

547
00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:20,790
Adam Curry: here it is here it
is. Just wanted to chime in and

548
00:32:20,790 --> 00:32:24,510
confirm your contention that the
tax debt over 250,000 scam is

549
00:32:24,510 --> 00:32:27,300
just trying to squeeze small
business. To make it short. My

550
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,580
wife and I have a very small
business that processes

551
00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:33,180
transactions online, we make
around 50k a year in taxable

552
00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:36,390
income on this business, the IRS
had an automated system that

553
00:32:36,390 --> 00:32:41,340
decided we owed them 500,000
plus dollars for tax year 2021.

554
00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:45,060
They decided this and 2023 it
was clearly some type of

555
00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:48,120
algorithm they applied to us and
it's impossible to even speak to

556
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,150
a human about this and try to
get it resolved. Explain that we

557
00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:54,690
literally make 1/10 the amount
each year that they claim we Oh

558
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,490
yeah, that it doesn't make
sense. But it's happening.

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John C Dvorak: But it doesn't
make sense because you can get a

560
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:08,670
hold of the IRS. No, I've never
heard it. You can't get a hold

561
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of the IRS and go to their arms
Busman program. There's a

562
00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:15,120
million ways to getting a hold
of the IRS. We just had a

563
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,960
situation with the IRS
ourselves. And Mimi had no

564
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,770
trouble getting a hold of an IRS
person though to work on this.

565
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Oh, maybe they

566
00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:25,710
Adam Curry: should reach out to
me, me me me has powers.

567
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:28,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's called
dialing a phone.

568
00:33:28,889 --> 00:33:30,869
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you
what they're saying.

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John C Dvorak: I understand what
they're saying. I'm just saying

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that doesn't make sense. Because
I've never had trouble getting

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ahold the IRS.

572
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Adam Curry: Maybe. Maybe you
have credentials that we're all

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unaware of.

574
00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:44,219
John C Dvorak: No, you call a
number. Just phone numbers. You

575
00:33:44,219 --> 00:33:45,749
can call? Yes, I know,

576
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Adam Curry: John. I know. I'm
just telling you. They may have

577
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been able to get a hold of them,
but maybe they couldn't help

578
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:54,060
them. I mean, I during the
pandemic, you certainly couldn't

579
00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:55,830
get a hold of anyone that's
different.

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00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:00,420
John C Dvorak: But this is very
resolvable.

581
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,610
Adam Curry: I sure hope so. They
seem to be frustrated by the

582
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process. By the way. Just as an
aside speaking of the smartest

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00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,960
people in the world, Kara
Swisher. Without a doubt one of

584
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,750
the smartest people in the
world. One of our producers

585
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,720
asked her a question on tick
tock and she answered.

586
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,090
John C Dvorak: Tick tock, tick
tock

587
00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:34,799
Adam Curry: on X on x. Hey,
Kara. I'm a big fan of pivot. My

588
00:34:34,799 --> 00:34:38,399
hate Listen, I've heard Jhansi
Dvorak referred to you as his

589
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:42,569
protege many times he seems to
be very proud of this fact. How

590
00:34:42,569 --> 00:34:45,299
big of an impact did Devora have
on your career?

591
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:48,570
John C Dvorak: You did this?

592
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:52,560
Adam Curry: No, I didn't do it.
Matt FFLs. Did it is one of our

593
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producers. I didn't do this.
Would you like to hear her

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answer? Because she answered.

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John C Dvorak: I'm dying. I'm
sure she said Hey, wait, wait,

596
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:04,380
let me guess. Let me guess.
Dvorak who

597
00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:07,680
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
no, she was she acknowledges you

598
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,950
with I'm not really. But he had
a good show back in the day.

599
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:20,070
That sounds right. I'm a protege
of Walt Mossberg. Oh, okay.

600
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There you go. That makes sense.
I just thought it was great that

601
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she answered, because she's
probably irked that we're always

602
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busting her chops.

603
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John C Dvorak: I don't think she
knows that we even do a show she

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00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:38,850
does. She does she does now
there's no no chance. She does.

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Adam Curry: I've even I've even
once I think I sent a slash on X

606
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to Prof. G and said I was my
favorite hate listen, and he

607
00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:55,620
replied, thanks. I think they
know they No, come on. They're

608
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,110
in the business of tech
podcasts. How could they not be

609
00:35:58,110 --> 00:36:01,680
listened to the no agenda show?
Where you know do tech did we do

610
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,770
we do all kinds of tech? We know
everything about tech. What did

611
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:07,920
we just do about AI? That's
tech.

612
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:09,960
John C Dvorak: I guess it is.

613
00:36:10,350 --> 00:36:13,950
Adam Curry: We know more about
tech than those jokes. Well,

614
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:17,520
that's beside the point. All
they know is how to moan and

615
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,940
groan about Elon Musk the head
horrible he is

616
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John C Dvorak: Oh boo she I
don't know like I still like to

617
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:29,010
I like people in the in the
media that hate musta hit on

618
00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:31,200
Musk like It's like there's no
tomorrow I'd like an

619
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explanation. When we know the

620
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,960
Adam Curry: explanation. No, we
don't. He took away their tool.

621
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They're the the tool of Twitter.
Yes, the tool of Twitter which

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00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:42,990
they they

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John C Dvorak: use this they
started hating on must before he

624
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took over Twitter that just
closed the deal. Once he once he

625
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,890
flipped you know, this is I
guess my thesis is gonna stick.

626
00:36:56,460 --> 00:37:00,390
Stick to this. The Democratic
Party is a cult.

627
00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:04,050
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Everybody
stop what you're doing.

628
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,260
John C Dvorak: Once you quit the
party, they go after Yeah. Like

629
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a cult does.

630
00:37:11,790 --> 00:37:14,070
Adam Curry: Oh, that's a
reasonable idea.

631
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,980
John C Dvorak: And reason and
people in the Republican Party.

632
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They quit the Republican Party.
I mean, I have and nobody cares.

633
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,240
Oh, yeah. Okay, whatever. What
is you now libertarian? Yeah, as

634
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:28,470
what he says. But the Democrats
you quit the Democratic Party if

635
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:32,070
you're involved, especially if
you have a lot of money like

636
00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:36,300
Trump did. You quit the party
and start to do anything else?

637
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:37,230
And they're all over? Yeah.

638
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,980
Adam Curry: Well, did you see
what happened to John Weiner?

639
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,160
Unknown: This you see,

640
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:48,360
John C Dvorak: John, when I did
I saw it happen to yawn when or

641
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,880
do you see what happened to do
it? Now? We're bringing this up

642
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,610
to just see what happened to
what's his name to British guy

643
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,450
Adam Curry: Russell Brand. I

644
00:37:54,450 --> 00:37:56,910
John C Dvorak: have a clearer so
brand guy killed. Well, first,

645
00:37:56,910 --> 00:38:00,900
let me explain what not
literally, but both figurative

646
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:01,680
but let's start with

647
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,460
Adam Curry: Yan winner. Sean
Weiner, who started Rolling

648
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:10,320
Stone magazine became a super,
super uber lefty, I would say.

649
00:38:10,799 --> 00:38:15,719
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And he was
just as an example of that, is

650
00:38:15,899 --> 00:38:19,799
he pretty much has the veto
power over the Rock and Roll

651
00:38:19,799 --> 00:38:26,909
Hall Hall of Fame. Yeah, had and
we will not allow a number of

652
00:38:26,909 --> 00:38:29,519
people to be in it, even though
they should have been in it

653
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:30,629
years ago.

654
00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:33,120
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, he has
been ousted from the Rock and

655
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:39,150
Roll Hall of Fame board. Because
he wrote a book. And he did an

656
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:43,650
interview with The New York
Times. And in and he's and the

657
00:38:43,650 --> 00:38:46,980
question was asked, Well, why
didn't you have more women in

658
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:49,590
your book? Why don't you have
more people of color? Or

659
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:54,030
John C Dvorak: a woman a woman?
Why do you have a woman in the

660
00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:56,010
book or a black musician?

661
00:38:56,340 --> 00:39:00,330
Adam Curry: And he said you
know, they're just they they

662
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:07,740
dumb? It was worse. He said in
The Times interview with winner

663
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:10,260
that published on Friday he said
that black and also female

664
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musicians quote, didn't
articulate at the level of the

665
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,030
white male musicians in his
classic it's not that they're

666
00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:21,630
not creative geniuses. It's just
that they're inarticulate.

667
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Although go have a deep
conversation with glade gray

668
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,380
slick or Janis Joplin. Please be
my guest you know Joni Mitchell

669
00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:31,740
was not a philosopher of rock
and roll she didn't in my mind

670
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:35,070
meet that test not by her work
not by other interview she did.

671
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:37,830
The people I interviewed were
the kind of philosophers of rock

672
00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:40,500
of black artists well you know
Stevie Wonder genius right.

673
00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:43,500
Suppose me use the word use the
word is brought us masters. The

674
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,680
fault is using that word maybe
Marvin Gaye Curtis Mayfield? I

675
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,380
mean, they just didn't
articulate at that level. But

676
00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:57,360
Pete Townsend Oh, hold on. Water
canard. And then he said, You

677
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,840
know, I guess I'm old fashioned.
I should have probably put one

678
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,300
woman and one black person in
there but um, you know, I don't

679
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:04,890
care. Well,

680
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:07,800
John C Dvorak: this is the
classic leftist.

681
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:08,970
Adam Curry: Okay

682
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,300
John C Dvorak: devs hypocrites.
Yeah.

683
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,890
Adam Curry: So the Russell Brand
thing is interesting

684
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,320
John C Dvorak: anyway, just
finish the winner thing he's

685
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:22,410
He's been our scores created for
this,

686
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,420
Adam Curry: that while the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame sent a

687
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:26,730
statement, Yan Venner has been
removed from the board of

688
00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:30,060
directors of the Rock Roll Hall
of Fame Foundation, and they

689
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:34,530
have no further comment. And
then when are of course issued a

690
00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:37,140
statement in my interview with
The New York Times and made

691
00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:40,470
comments that dismiss the
contributions, genius and impact

692
00:40:40,530 --> 00:40:43,620
of black and women artists, I
apologize wholeheartedly for

693
00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:46,860
those remarks. The Masters is a
collection of interviews I've

694
00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:50,160
done over the years that seemed
to me best represent an idea of

695
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,800
Rock and roll's impact on the
world. They were not meant to

696
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,190
represent the whole of music and
as diverse and important origins

697
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,550
but reflect the high points of
my career and interviews I felt

698
00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:02,460
illustrate the breadth and
experience in that career Mee

699
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:09,450
Mee Mee Mee Mee now he's done
he's done is great. He's done.

700
00:41:10,350 --> 00:41:13,500
So the the brand thing is
interesting. I started getting

701
00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:17,760
emails like hey, channel four
just preempted its normal

702
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:24,180
lineup. So this was this was not
a planned show. This was they

703
00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:27,450
they preempted whatever is
normally running and ran this 90

704
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:34,320
minute program which accuses and
I think it's because it leaked

705
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,220
out and he got some emails and
the day before he did a YouTube

706
00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:42,090
and he said hey, this is this is
not right I'm I'm being

707
00:41:42,090 --> 00:41:46,920
railroaded because I have a
different message and and I have

708
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:52,920
like a minute, which really
shows you what kind of a hit job

709
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,590
this was. Nobody can talk about
the validity of it. But the hit

710
00:41:55,590 --> 00:42:00,810
job is a beautiful piece they
edited and they use this as the

711
00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:04,710
trailer. This is inappropriate
probably for young ears. But

712
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:10,500
here is a piece from Channel
Four is Russell Brand. expose a

713
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:11,730
I phoned

714
00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:15,360
Unknown: and somebody that's
what it was regarding. And I was

715
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,470
said that's regarding Russell
Brand being a sex offender.

716
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:26,790
He's grabbing my my underwear,
pulling it to the side, I'm

717
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:31,020
telling him to get off me and he
won't get off. Like holding me

718
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:33,900
up against the wall, pushing
himself in me.

719
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:36,000
I love the music.

720
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:40,680
He grabbed me and got me on the
bed. I was fully clothed and he

721
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,070
was naked at this point. And he
held me down and he was just

722
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:46,170
aggressively trying to you know,

723
00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:52,260
me. I was like, Oh my God, He
raped me

724
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,860
forced his penis down my throat
and couldn't breathe. I was

725
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:05,610
choking me. I was crying. And he
said, Oh, I only want to see

726
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:06,810
your mascara run anyway

727
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:14,370
mascara runs a little bit

728
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:24,060
Adam Curry: this this big. So so
they take a story where the

729
00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:27,390
woman says this is exactly what
he did and said I just want to

730
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:30,870
make your mascara run and they
cut to a comedic conference a

731
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:34,260
stand up of him where he's using
this as a joke. And he says

732
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:38,040
those blow jobs that to make
your mascara run, and they add a

733
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,360
lot of echo to it and a lot of
scary effects. That to me tells

734
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,700
me this is a job. But wow, a
serious one. And I have lots of

735
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:52,050
questions. Like, is he has he
been removed from YouTube yet?

736
00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:56,610
More importantly, or have
charges have been filed? We know

737
00:43:56,610 --> 00:44:00,540
that. Certainly this apparently
happened in Los Angeles, that

738
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:05,130
you can make millions of dollars
just like the case against Trump

739
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,470
with a with a 20 3040 year old
accusation. So what is this what

740
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:14,190
what really is the result of
this? What is the point? And

741
00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:21,000
there's there's two sides. One
is this is two this is the

742
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
mainstream media hates what he's
saying and Big Pharma hates what

743
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,860
he's saying. And the other side
is he's using it to up his

744
00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:32,550
profile. I mean, there's all
kinds of sides to this.

745
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:36,450
John C Dvorak: I think it's I
don't think he's using it to up

746
00:44:36,450 --> 00:44:37,770
his profiles. It's

747
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:42,330
Adam Curry: like an Andrew Tate
type type of thing. Oh,

748
00:44:42,359 --> 00:44:43,469
John C Dvorak: that's not going
to happen.

749
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:48,690
Adam Curry: But him I've always
wondered why he's still on

750
00:44:48,690 --> 00:44:51,420
YouTube that that is
questionable to say the least.

751
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:52,770
Make no it

752
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:55,140
John C Dvorak: won't be on for
long. I think there are things

753
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,540
to get rid of him. He's a he's a
pain in the ass. Yeah.

754
00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:03,870
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's
definitely a pain in the ass.

755
00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:06,960
But it's also as like, dude. You
could see this coming down

756
00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:10,770
coming down Broadway. You're
building an audience on YouTube.

757
00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:14,550
What are you thinking? Oh, no,
I'm now I'm on rumble. Okay,

758
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:17,369
John C Dvorak: bitch shoot, come
in.

759
00:45:17,819 --> 00:45:20,789
Adam Curry: Now he's always
rumble, I think rumble pays him.

760
00:45:21,299 --> 00:45:24,179
And we'll see we'll see how
strong Rumble is with these

761
00:45:24,179 --> 00:45:29,099
horrible allegations. It's now
you know, of course believe all

762
00:45:29,099 --> 00:45:34,499
women. But man, this is this is
severe. And it's so stylized.

763
00:45:34,499 --> 00:45:39,119
It's not a news report. It's a
90 minute documentary with with

764
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:43,889
music and effects. And an echo
is I mean, it's really meant to

765
00:45:43,889 --> 00:45:46,769
influence people's thinking. I
don't even know if I haven't

766
00:45:46,769 --> 00:45:48,449
watched the whole thing. I
haven't haven't watched the

767
00:45:48,449 --> 00:45:51,779
whole thing I will. I don't even
know if they show two sides or

768
00:45:51,779 --> 00:45:55,829
if it's just all a hit job. The
funny thing is people are on

769
00:45:56,309 --> 00:46:02,789
posting audio. This is AI. Oh my
god, really people. It's not

770
00:46:02,789 --> 00:46:04,139
that hard to find someone who
will

771
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:07,500
John C Dvorak: just say, I know
there's one clip going around to

772
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,460
one woman when she got cut in
and out but the raw version of

773
00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:15,900
her sounds very AI ish. But
what's the point you can find an

774
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:19,020
actress to do you don't need AI
for

775
00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:21,600
Adam Curry: that. Hey, you know,
tell me this. You're an expert

776
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,730
in audio. Isn't this AI? No.

777
00:46:23,969 --> 00:46:26,789
John C Dvorak: I got that. No to
your Yeah, Adam, you're the

778
00:46:26,789 --> 00:46:29,519
expert. Is this AI?

779
00:46:29,699 --> 00:46:34,019
Adam Curry: Ah, no. It's not
that hard to get actresses to do

780
00:46:34,019 --> 00:46:39,719
this. They've been said they use
four actresses for this piece.

781
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,890
John C Dvorak: So somebody sent
me There's a website called AI

782
00:46:43,890 --> 00:46:49,530
or not.com. And Ar not.com takes
a look at images and tells you

783
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:53,160
whether they're AI or not. We
need to the Art Generator.

784
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:58,650
Right. Well, I did and
everything was AI. But so I took

785
00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:03,270
some regular pictures and I
swear this is a fact. I took a

786
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:07,080
picture. I took a couple of
screenshots of airy Melber or

787
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,910
whatever his name is Ari Morrow,

788
00:47:09,149 --> 00:47:10,139
Adam Curry: Ra Ra on

789
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:14,550
John C Dvorak: MSNBC. Yeah, that
guy. And so I had a pic couple

790
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:17,220
of screenshots of them and I
slipped one into the AI

791
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:21,570
generator. It says this isn't
this is a real picture. And then

792
00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:24,330
it said, not safe for work.

793
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:34,320
Anyway, yes, not safe for work.

794
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,490
Adam Curry: No, no, no. I have a

795
00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:41,190
John C Dvorak: bunch of clips
about the impeachment. I want to

796
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:44,220
get good. And we didn't talk
about last. Oh, of

797
00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:46,980
Adam Curry: course not. There's
reasons for that. It's Can you

798
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:48,150
Is it exciting?

799
00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:50,400
John C Dvorak: I think it's
interesting, because they

800
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,440
brought is from NTD. So they're
they're anti by moe. Sure.

801
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,870
Adam Curry: And we say the
impeachment. We're talking about

802
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:01,530
impeaching President Biden
because he was involved in

803
00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:03,030
corruption through His Son.

804
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,130
John C Dvorak: We don't know.
But it's a lot of just Hanky

805
00:48:08,130 --> 00:48:12,990
Panky is what I would describe
it. And it's at least as bad as

806
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:17,910
when Spiro Agnew is in the vice
presidency. And it was

807
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:21,450
collecting money in his office
and they had to rouse them and

808
00:48:21,450 --> 00:48:24,420
kicked him out of the office.
And this is Joe Biden was doing

809
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:28,260
the same stuff when he was vice
president and probably still

810
00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:32,130
things going on. But this would
this the only reason I got these

811
00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:35,670
clips because this is a guy they
brought in just to outline the

812
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:42,060
evidence, because the Democrats
say there's no evidence. So

813
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:45,510
yeah, so we have these clips of
this guy they brought on to talk

814
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:48,420
about the evidence. So you
people out there can say yeah,

815
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:51,630
there's evidence whether they're
going to do anything or not, and

816
00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:54,330
they're not going to get an
impeachment accomplished because

817
00:48:54,330 --> 00:48:58,620
of the Senate. And the Democrats
are all all for it. But let's go

818
00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,310
with impeachment evidence in TD
people. Sorry,

819
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:04,830
Unknown: what's the evidence
against President Biden in the

820
00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:07,950
impeachment inquiry, a key
player has fallen out of the

821
00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:11,940
news cycle, Victor Shokin. This
was the Ukrainian prosecutor

822
00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:14,910
tasked with cleaning up
corruption in the country. Until

823
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:17,940
then Vice President Biden
stepped in calling for his

824
00:49:17,940 --> 00:49:21,750
removal. At the time. Shokan was
reportedly investigating the

825
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:25,590
energy company Burisma where
Hunter Biden was a board member

826
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:28,410
to go over the timeline, we
spoke with an investigative

827
00:49:28,410 --> 00:49:31,830
journalist Jeff Carlson, thank
you so much for joining us. And

828
00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:35,160
since this impeachment inquiry
has been launched, several news

829
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,190
outlets and pundits have been
saying this is without evidence.

830
00:49:38,190 --> 00:49:41,250
Others say there's a lot of
evidence, what evidence is

831
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:41,550
there.

832
00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:44,220
You know, one of the big things
that Democrats have been talking

833
00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:47,550
about is the fact that the will,
what they've really done is

834
00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:50,340
they've sort of capitulated at
first it was you know, Joe Biden

835
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:53,220
didn't talk to Hunter Biden than
it was Joe Biden didn't talk to

836
00:49:53,220 --> 00:49:56,190
his business partners, that it
was okay to talk to his business

837
00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:58,560
partners, but he didn't actually
talk business so we keep

838
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,190
breaking down these doors. Now
the new narrative is you can't

839
00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:08,940
trace the money directly going
back to Joe Biden. Well, you

840
00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:12,420
pretty much can. And that's what
this is all about. You know,

841
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:14,580
it's not as if we're going to
have a cheque that's going to be

842
00:50:14,580 --> 00:50:17,100
written directly out to Joe
Biden, we know that there was

843
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:21,450
this use of 20 different plus
shell, holding company shell

844
00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:25,680
companies through which cash was
passing through. We know that if

845
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,680
you look at the Ukraine
situation, you had this new

846
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,190
prosecutor that was brought in.
And despite what people say he

847
00:50:32,190 --> 00:50:36,180
was absolutely investigating
Burisma you know, there was

848
00:50:36,180 --> 00:50:39,450
always this narrative that the
IMF and the EU wanted Shokan

849
00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:43,260
gone, that's utterly false. We
spent forever researching this

850
00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:46,620
and trying to find any evidence
of either of those entities

851
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:50,670
wanting Shokan out prior to Joe
Biden announcing that he was

852
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:53,340
going after Shogun, and it
doesn't exist.

853
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:58,170
John C Dvorak: So that's the
this is where it's going to

854
00:50:58,170 --> 00:51:01,680
really be about it's about this
Shokan guy and Biden bragging

855
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,960
about memory when he was in
front of the Council on Foreign

856
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,400
Relations. I think it was

857
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:09,300
Adam Curry: yes, no, no, no. It
was like the Aspen Institute or

858
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:09,930
something.

859
00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:13,590
John C Dvorak: I thought it was
in the CFR Well, it was he was

860
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:17,940
in it was in public. And he's
bragging about how he got rid of

861
00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:18,720
this guy. Because

862
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:21,390
Adam Curry: you're right, it was
to see you I have I have the

863
00:51:21,390 --> 00:51:24,060
clip, it was CFR, we might as
well play it since you're doing

864
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:24,930
this expos a,

865
00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:30,270
Unknown: I remember going over
convincing our team or others to

866
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,390
convince the United that we
should be providing for loan

867
00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:38,130
guarantees. And I went over, I
guess, the 12th 13th time to

868
00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:42,000
Kyiv. And, and I was going
supposed to announce that there

869
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,780
was another billion dollar loan
guarantee. And I had gotten a

870
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:50,700
commitment from Poroshenko and
from Yatsenyuk that they would

871
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:54,150
take action against the state
prosecutor and they didn't. So

872
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:56,880
they said to me, they walk out,
depress kind of sit nice, and

873
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,460
I'm not going to, we're not
going to give you the billion

874
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:02,490
dollars. They said you have no
authority, you're not the

875
00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:06,450
president, the President's and I
said call him. I said, I'm

876
00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:09,030
telling you, you're not getting
the billion dollars. I said,

877
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:11,070
you're not getting the billion
I'm gonna be leaving here. I

878
00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:13,530
think it was about six hours, I
look guys, I'm leaving in six

879
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:16,470
hours. If the prosecutor is not
fired, you're not getting the

880
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:21,900
money. Well, son of a bitch got
fired. And they put in place

881
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:23,220
someone who was

882
00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:26,580
Adam Curry: solid and friendly
to me and my family and others.

883
00:52:28,140 --> 00:52:29,820
John C Dvorak: Active, of
course, has been going around

884
00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:33,180
for I don't know if you have a
date on it, but it's what do I

885
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:35,130
do three years and when

886
00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:39,870
Adam Curry: 2019 October 2019
for years.

887
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:41,940
John C Dvorak: And of course
everyone has been pointing to

888
00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:45,540
that clip, as you know, is worse
than what Trump did with his

889
00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:49,500
phone call. But okay, it's been
taken forever to get anywhere in

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here we go to clip two.

891
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:53,100
Unknown: As a matter of fact,
quite the opposite. The State

892
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:56,700
Department had said that Shokin
had made enough progress that

893
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,880
they were willing to free up the
1 billion in taxpayer

894
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,850
guarantees. Some people said
their loans, they really

895
00:53:02,850 --> 00:53:05,490
weren't. They were taxpayer
guarantees. But nevertheless,

896
00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:08,430
from Ukraine's perspective, it
freed up one access to $1

897
00:53:08,430 --> 00:53:14,520
billion. So Joe Biden actually
altered US official policy by

898
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,970
suddenly deciding to withhold
these funds to Ukraine, because

899
00:53:17,970 --> 00:53:20,670
he was trying to get he was
trying to place pressure on

900
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Poroshenko, the President of
Ukraine to remove Shokan. And it

901
00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:27,420
even gets a little bit worse
from there, because once Shokan

902
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:30,810
was finally removed, they needed
to make sure that they had the

903
00:53:30,810 --> 00:53:34,320
correct prosecutor in place that
would close all the Burisma

904
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,190
investigations. That took a
couple of months. And there was

905
00:53:38,190 --> 00:53:42,150
quite literally a phone call
with Poroshenko, the day after

906
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,140
the new prosecutor was put in
place a guy named Yuri, let's

907
00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:50,340
say go. The day after he was put
in place. Biden had a phone call

908
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:54,540
with Poroshenko. And it was only
then on that phone call that he

909
00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:58,080
agreed to finally release these
funds, which were supposed to

910
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,900
have been released in you know,
December of the prior year,

911
00:54:01,020 --> 00:54:05,370
December 2014. Those funds
didn't get officially released

912
00:54:05,370 --> 00:54:11,520
until I believe it's May 16 of
2016. And they were tied to put

913
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it in in the new prosecutor. And
that new prosecutor was the one

914
00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:18,540
who closed the investigation
into Burisma.

915
00:54:18,810 --> 00:54:21,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, yep. Yep,
that's how I remember it.

916
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,120
John C Dvorak: I think well
worked out. Well,

917
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:26,820
Adam Curry: don't even have that
call the Biden call that guy. I

918
00:54:26,820 --> 00:54:27,750
think there was a call.

919
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,970
John C Dvorak: No, we don't.
Okay. I mean, I don't think so.

920
00:54:33,150 --> 00:54:34,320
Let's go to step three.

921
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:38,100
Unknown: And Jeff, I want to
zoom in on that. So Democrats

922
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,010
are now pushing back on this
impeachment inquiry saying that

923
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:45,180
while Hunter Biden may have
acted unethically, Joe Biden did

924
00:54:45,180 --> 00:54:48,690
not he did not change any US
policy. You argue otherwise. So

925
00:54:48,690 --> 00:54:51,330
what policy did Joe Biden
change?

926
00:54:51,570 --> 00:54:54,510
Just the withholding of those
loans was an official change in

927
00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:57,720
our foreign policy, and it
appears that it was being done

928
00:54:57,930 --> 00:55:02,160
in order to close down in a
investigation into an entity

929
00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:06,150
which is on was on the board of
directors. But more importantly

930
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:08,580
than that, that they appear to
have been further financially

931
00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:11,100
entwined. In terms of the you
know, the news that we've been

932
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,490
getting out regarding these,
these sequences of two separate

933
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:18,240
$5 million bribes one to Joe
Biden, one to Hunter Biden all

934
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,090
tied into getting this
investigation removed. And it's

935
00:55:21,090 --> 00:55:23,970
important to note that Burisma
is not above making bribes. The

936
00:55:23,970 --> 00:55:28,320
owner of Burisma managed to
close a UK investigation before

937
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,710
Hunter actually came on board by
doing exactly that. He paid the

938
00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:35,910
former prosecutor, he paid the
former prosecutor's office a $7

939
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:39,240
million bribed to close an
earlier investigation. You know,

940
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,640
ultimately, this is part of
another argument that we've been

941
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,970
making is that it's impossible
that Obama wasn't aware of this,

942
00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:49,920
you don't suddenly stop
unilaterally a major loan going

943
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,550
through to Ukraine that had been
in the works, and then hold that

944
00:55:53,550 --> 00:55:57,120
loan up until the changes that
you want it to be made. Were

945
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,900
actually effectuated. So
ultimately, Obama had the will

946
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:03,810
be aware, at least after the
fact of what his Vice President

947
00:56:03,810 --> 00:56:04,410
was doing.

948
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:06,540
Adam Curry: Well, Biden said it
Biden said it right there in

949
00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:08,910
that clip, you don't believe a
call the president, he'll back

950
00:56:08,910 --> 00:56:10,710
me up. So he must of course, he
knew.

951
00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:15,210
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that hasn't
really been brought up much. It

952
00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:18,690
was assumed in that clip that
you're talking about. That that

953
00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:19,680
was a bluff.

954
00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:24,120
Adam Curry: Oh, really, I
believe it wholeheartedly. I

955
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:29,250
mean, this is this is Joe Biden.
The enemy always overplayed his

956
00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:33,030
hand. This is exactly what he
did, right? A pride, pride.

957
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:34,830
That's what he had pride in what
he did.

958
00:56:37,620 --> 00:56:39,240
John C Dvorak: to rake a clip
for

959
00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:42,390
Unknown: and zooming out a bit,
these are just this is just an

960
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:45,240
impeachment inquiry, not yet
Articles of Impeachment to be

961
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:47,880
voted on. But the White House
has already shot back. It's

962
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,840
actually giving a statement to
major news organizations on how

963
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,270
to report on this saying to
scrutinize what the House

964
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:58,140
Republicans are saying, what
does it mean for our country

965
00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:01,770
when major news organizations
are getting editorial guidance

966
00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:05,280
from the White House instead of
reporting on it from a distance?

967
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:09,720
You know, I obviously I saw that
and was a little flabbergasted.

968
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:12,870
We've known I guess you in some
ways could almost argue, hey,

969
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:15,780
good, at least it's out in the
open because for years, the

970
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:18,840
exact same thing has been going
on behind the scenes. You know,

971
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,840
how many times do you see one
media organization, it usually

972
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,810
comes downstream from the New
York Times and Washington Post.

973
00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:28,800
But everybody picks up the
narrative really, pretty much at

974
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,010
exactly the same moment. You
know, we know that the White

975
00:57:32,010 --> 00:57:35,040
House was directing all the
efforts at suppressing

976
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,190
information on social media
sites, Google, etc. Behind the

977
00:57:38,190 --> 00:57:42,630
scenes. Same thing with COVID.
Now, they just seem to have

978
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:45,390
given up any pretense that are
literally putting that directive

979
00:57:45,390 --> 00:57:45,960
out there

980
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:49,020
Adam Curry: this. See, this is
why I think they hate Elon Musk,

981
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:54,120
because everybody's complicit.
They're all corrupt. And that is

982
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,500
so specifically around Ukraine.
There were so many people

983
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:02,040
involved in that corruption. And
we know the news media is

984
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,210
actually they are they are
corrupt. They're in bed with the

985
00:58:06,210 --> 00:58:09,630
intelligence agencies. They're
all at the same parties. And

986
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:12,900
that's why they hate Musk
because he let this be let some

987
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:16,470
stuff out. And this people feel
threatened.

988
00:58:17,009 --> 00:58:19,859
John C Dvorak: This last clip,
which is the real reason to play

989
00:58:19,859 --> 00:58:25,619
these clips. Oh, okay. I think
is there's something suspicious

990
00:58:25,619 --> 00:58:29,279
about the fact that this memo
went out in the first place.

991
00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:33,779
This was this is these memos,
the memo that went out to tell

992
00:58:33,779 --> 00:58:37,799
them newsmedia how to react to
these these stories, which the

993
00:58:37,799 --> 00:58:40,499
guy himself said, Well, this has
always been a known kind of a

994
00:58:40,499 --> 00:58:43,469
secret. Now that's out in the
open because they don't care.

995
00:58:43,739 --> 00:58:46,679
They just blatant now, he's just
saying Here we run the media,

996
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:50,369
here's how you should cover
these stories. I don't believe

997
00:58:50,369 --> 00:58:54,809
that. I think this memo was
purposely pushed out there by

998
00:58:54,809 --> 00:58:59,699
one of the big news companies,
and I'm suspecting the

999
00:58:59,699 --> 00:59:02,459
Washington Post, because they're
the ones that are going after

1000
00:59:02,669 --> 00:59:07,589
Biden the most, as if it was
just pushed into the mainstream.

1001
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:12,479
I think I think this was a kind
of a leak. As opposed to a

1002
00:59:12,479 --> 00:59:17,939
blatant promotion, how but there
is something very suspicious

1003
00:59:17,939 --> 00:59:20,849
about this, and I think is to
accomplish two things. One, what

1004
00:59:20,849 --> 00:59:23,399
was maybe mentioned in the
Council on Foreign Relations,

1005
00:59:24,089 --> 00:59:27,629
publication, foreign affairs,
about getting out of Ukraine,

1006
00:59:27,779 --> 00:59:30,299
and the whole thing is so
corrupt, why are we there? And

1007
00:59:30,299 --> 00:59:34,379
the second one is part of the
program by a lot of people, not

1008
00:59:34,409 --> 00:59:38,099
all of them by about half the
Democrat party to get rid of

1009
00:59:38,099 --> 00:59:38,669
Biden,

1010
00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:46,470
Adam Curry: how about this?
Everyone understands that? If

1011
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:50,520
Trump gets in office, they all
Hang on. I think, whether that's

1012
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,960
true or not, I don't know.

1013
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:54,120
John C Dvorak: But I think
that's the genuine hang last

1014
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,050
time, but yes,

1015
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,930
Adam Curry: exactly. But you
know, it makes people worried

1016
00:59:58,050 --> 01:00:01,560
and everybody overstepped
somehow So maybe this is the

1017
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,430
rats leaving the ship saying,
well, at least we can shove all

1018
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:09,810
of this blame with our powerful
media empires. We can push all

1019
01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:13,800
of this onto one guy, one
family, let him bleed for it.

1020
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,670
The old coot So yeah, that just
protected. It obviously has

1021
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:21,690
nothing to do with democracy.
It's only no protecting their

1022
01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:25,950
own asses because of reputation
and criminality.

1023
01:00:28,260 --> 01:00:31,320
John C Dvorak: Well, something's
up. And I think that discussion

1024
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,560
to that, that note coming out
from the White House telling

1025
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,830
people how to react to these
impeachment things is

1026
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,340
Adam Curry: an Obama has to be
protected at all costs, because

1027
01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:42,060
well, Obama

1028
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:45,360
John C Dvorak: got nailed in
this little did keep mentioning

1029
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,620
him. I think Obama is is
targeted to but I don't know

1030
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,990
what they're what they're going
to accomplish with that. But

1031
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,050
here's the last of these clips
of this series.

1032
01:00:55,170 --> 01:00:57,330
Unknown: What will be
interesting, though, is that

1033
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,570
this one time that they are
making an overt directive

1034
01:01:00,570 --> 01:01:03,930
telling the news organizations
what they want them to do. And

1035
01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:07,080
so far, they're mostly doing it.
Will they continue? Because

1036
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,740
there definitely seems to be a
step back from Biden. You know,

1037
01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:14,760
the other day, we saw something
that was unheard of, we saw CNN,

1038
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,400
running a clip where they were
putting up the number of times

1039
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,240
that Joe Biden had lied. We have
David Ignatius Writing in The

1040
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:26,010
Washington Post that Joe Biden
shouldn't run again in 2024. So

1041
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:29,640
we're getting you know, our
theory has long been that Joe

1042
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,940
Biden is not ultimately going to
be the nominee for 2024. But

1043
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:36,780
it's going to be somebody else,
likely Gavin Newsom. And we're

1044
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:41,400
now seeing those cracks start to
form. So, you know, I think it's

1045
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,980
worthwhile noting for the
audience, that all this

1046
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:48,270
perceived protection around Joe
Biden is less about protecting

1047
01:01:48,270 --> 01:01:51,540
Joe Biden, but more about
protecting sort of the

1048
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:54,990
establishment and the way the
establishment does business. And

1049
01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:57,870
I, you know, I think at this
point, they're beginning to give

1050
01:01:57,870 --> 01:02:00,810
up on Joe a little bit as these
facts mount as we started off

1051
01:02:00,810 --> 01:02:02,790
discussing at the beginning of
this episode.

1052
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:05,730
Adam Curry: He's very measured
in what he says. I mean, I

1053
01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:10,680
agree, yes, no one wants anyone
to see how the sausage is made.

1054
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:15,480
And I'm now thinking this has to
do with Mitt Romney's

1055
01:02:15,930 --> 01:02:19,020
announcement that he's not
running anymore. I'm not

1056
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:23,010
running. We need younger people
to come by Mitt Romney looks 60.

1057
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,750
He's 7475. The guy looks great.
is in great health a 76.

1058
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:32,610
Actually, did I say that? 76. He
said it looks like 74 or 75.

1059
01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:36,480
Okay, so he's 76. He looks at
six he does the he looks good.

1060
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:39,600
He looks good. He's you know, he
started Bain Capital he's made

1061
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,220
bank. I think he's getting out
because he knows the dominoes

1062
01:02:44,250 --> 01:02:49,200
are about to fall. And back in
2014, August 7 of this very

1063
01:02:49,590 --> 01:02:54,030
podcast. According to the Durham
report, the best podcast in the

1064
01:02:54,030 --> 01:02:59,760
universe, Episode 641, we were
discussing how business is done,

1065
01:03:00,030 --> 01:03:04,650
certainly in the world, but by
the United States, politicians,

1066
01:03:04,650 --> 01:03:09,960
the elites, I think it was in
regard to Ebola in Africa. It's

1067
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,300
like, hey, you know, we're going
to come in, we're going to take

1068
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,390
over your country, here's some
Ebola for you. But then

1069
01:03:15,390 --> 01:03:18,120
something else popped up in this
conversation, which I thought

1070
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:24,450
was worth playing. Let's go back
in time to August 7 2014. So we

1071
01:03:24,450 --> 01:03:27,090
shall see if they can really
pull it off. Because I don't I

1072
01:03:27,090 --> 01:03:30,900
think these guys just sitting
back and go, okay. Let's forget

1073
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:33,330
Ebola for a moment. How much
money you're gonna give me? What

1074
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:36,030
am I getting into the table? I
don't think America and we have

1075
01:03:36,030 --> 01:03:39,810
limits on that stuff. You know,
the carriers of the world. Screw

1076
01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:42,840
you, man, my kid's gonna get the
money. Joe Biden's kids gonna

1077
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,650
get the the company in Ukraine
that he's running. You know,

1078
01:03:46,650 --> 01:03:49,350
they have limits, they won't
they will just bring our

1079
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:52,260
extractive unit known as the
Pentagon and Department of

1080
01:03:52,260 --> 01:03:54,570
Defense and will kill you

1081
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,970
John C Dvorak: know, that's why
we like to give people generous

1082
01:03:56,970 --> 01:03:57,840
loans.

1083
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:03,900
Adam Curry: not mentioned in
that lineup was Mitt Romney's

1084
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:09,000
kid, they were all involved in
Ukraine, all of them and Pelosi,

1085
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,960
his kid. They're all involved in
the Ukraine scandal because it

1086
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,710
was such a great country to do
that, too. Yeah, and I think

1087
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:19,320
this is why let's see what what
moves carry makes you know, you

1088
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,260
know, my dad in Africa, I'm
doing climate change, but he's

1089
01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:26,070
not immune. They'll they'll
throw him for the wolves to they

1090
01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:27,000
will they think

1091
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:28,889
John C Dvorak: yeah, I forgot
about the Romney kids

1092
01:04:29,399 --> 01:04:32,369
Adam Curry: Romney Romney kid
the carry kid

1093
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:36,300
John C Dvorak: you know, he
could run two more times he

1094
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:36,750
looks so

1095
01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:40,320
Adam Curry: easily and he loves
the power he loves it. So I'm

1096
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,580
not I'm not buying this

1097
01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:44,430
John C Dvorak: is a good catch.
I think so. I think you're

1098
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:50,820
right. So that makes just some
pushback. Artists, clips, these

1099
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:54,210
are older but this is the White
House. I want to play these this

1100
01:04:54,210 --> 01:04:57,810
one and then to see if the other
two follow. White House push

1101
01:04:57,810 --> 01:04:59,370
back on impeachment.

1102
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,190
Unknown: Welcome back because
the White House is asking the

1103
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:05,190
media to be critical of the
impeachment inquiry against

1104
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:08,850
President Biden it sent a letter
urging them to, quote ramp up

1105
01:05:08,850 --> 01:05:12,510
scrutiny. The letter from White
House spokesperson II and Sam

1106
01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:15,630
says that there is no evidence
against Biden and that the

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01:05:15,630 --> 01:05:19,290
Impeachment Inquiry is without
merit. The letter has raised

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01:05:19,290 --> 01:05:22,920
concern as it seems to urge news
outlets to follow an editorial

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,340
director from the White House.
The letter was sent out today to

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01:05:26,340 --> 01:05:29,700
top executives at big news
outlets like the New York Times,

1111
01:05:29,730 --> 01:05:33,960
Fox, CNN and the associated
press box. This comes after

1112
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,600
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy
announced the Impeachment

1113
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,710
Inquiry yesterday.

1114
01:05:38,010 --> 01:05:42,180
Adam Curry: Oh, watch this be a
super benefit by having Fox take

1115
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:45,480
a fall to watch that just you
can watch it happen. Hey, we can

1116
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:51,150
get Fox we can get Fox to fall
fold to could happen.

1117
01:05:54,990 --> 01:05:56,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you don't
need these other ones. There's

1118
01:05:56,550 --> 01:06:00,570
more of the same. It's just that
this White House directive is

1119
01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:05,550
very interesting. Well, the sure
what the ramifications will be

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01:06:05,550 --> 01:06:08,370
long term, but it's not. It's
not a positive thing.

1121
01:06:08,970 --> 01:06:14,250
Adam Curry: Well, the the case
the Missouri and Louisiana case

1122
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,000
didn't is going to the Supreme
Court. Just as a side note, even

1123
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,170
though that was more about
COVID. But it's always mentioned

1124
01:06:22,170 --> 01:06:27,630
kind of in the in the same
breath from our lawyer. As

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01:06:27,630 --> 01:06:30,810
expected, the feds have decided
to go straight to Supreme Court.

1126
01:06:30,990 --> 01:06:34,290
They asked Justice Alito to stay
the preliminary injunction

1127
01:06:34,410 --> 01:06:37,080
pending the filing and
disposition of the government's

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,520
forthcoming petition for a writ
of certiorari, which sounds like

1129
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,600
a Roman soldier. And any further
proceedings also granted, Alito

1130
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,840
granted them a one week stay
those until next Friday and has

1131
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,260
ordered the plaintiffs to file a
response by Wednesday. From our

1132
01:06:52,260 --> 01:06:54,120
lawyer here. It'll be
interesting to see what the

1133
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,270
plaintiffs say in response with
Alito ultimately decides. All we

1134
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:59,520
know for sure is the feds have
announced their plan to seek a

1135
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,700
Supreme Court review. Well,
nothing uncertain. Our lawyer

1136
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:05,010
says the odds are very good.
They can persuade at least four

1137
01:07:05,010 --> 01:07:08,100
justices to agree to hear the
case. That which is the minimum

1138
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:10,470
needed if that happens to M five
and we'll be hard pressed to

1139
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:14,250
ignore the story which they have
so far. Like except for this

1140
01:07:14,250 --> 01:07:16,470
White House directive, which
seems to be overshadowing it a

1141
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:20,940
little bit, but it's all part of
the same thing. And this will we

1142
01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:25,200
know that this has been going on
it's nonstop and I think people

1143
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,510
are figuring it out and this
will then bring me to equal

1144
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:32,730
airtime this morning. The new
the new Chuck Todd on Meet the

1145
01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:33,360
Press.

1146
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:36,420
Unknown: Oh yes Welker.

1147
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:40,140
Adam Curry: Yes, Welker
interviewed President Trump. And

1148
01:07:40,140 --> 01:07:45,240
I have some clips, since it's
very timely. Let's listen to the

1149
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:47,520
Unknown: intro ahead of her
first episode as the new

1150
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,430
moderator of Meet the Press.
Kristen Welker sat down with

1151
01:07:50,430 --> 01:07:53,790
former President Trump in a one
on one exclusive interview

1152
01:07:53,970 --> 01:07:56,910
inside his New Jersey Golf Club.
The interview comes as Mr. Trump

1153
01:07:56,910 --> 01:08:00,660
faces a historic moment,
expanding his already dominant

1154
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:04,080
lead over the GOP field. With
his sights firmly set on

1155
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,070
retaking the White House while
facing enormous legal peril

1156
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:12,030
across four looming criminal
trials. No topic was off limits,

1157
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:15,600
from the prospect of jail time
two big policy issues like his

1158
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,140
stance on abortion, and his view
of Russian leader Vladimir Putin

1159
01:08:19,170 --> 01:08:22,650
will make comments this week
about Trump's so called plan to

1160
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:25,890
end the war in Ukraine. Think of
Us Now interestingly,

1161
01:08:25,950 --> 01:08:31,260
Adam Curry: on Friday Megyn
Kelly also interviewed former

1162
01:08:31,260 --> 01:08:37,290
President Trump and questions
were almost identical. Oh like

1163
01:08:37,290 --> 01:08:40,680
scripted. Well, except for one
which we'll get to later

1164
01:08:40,710 --> 01:08:44,370
John C Dvorak: the Can I mention
something here? Yeah. This

1165
01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:53,100
Welker thing. The left leaning
Mastodon instances which is most

1166
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,650
of them, main one, except for
No, he

1167
01:08:55,799 --> 01:08:59,519
Adam Curry: went ballistic. Why?
Because the fact that they gave

1168
01:08:59,519 --> 01:09:00,689
him airtime at all,

1169
01:09:00,749 --> 01:09:01,499
John C Dvorak: yes.

1170
01:09:04,529 --> 01:09:07,289
Adam Curry: Interesting. Well,
maybe this is a part of taking

1171
01:09:07,289 --> 01:09:09,779
it all down. It was cozy up to
Trump man, because you know,

1172
01:09:09,779 --> 01:09:15,059
he's gonna kill everybody. So
we'll start with the dare Volker

1173
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:18,599
with the first question, which
is, well, we'll stick with

1174
01:09:18,599 --> 01:09:21,359
Ukraine since that is the center
of all action. Right now.

1175
01:09:21,389 --> 01:09:23,729
Unknown: Want to ask you about
something President Putin said

1176
01:09:23,729 --> 01:09:26,159
about you this week? I don't
know if you've seen it. This was

1177
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:29,399
very recent President Putin
said, quote, We surely hear that

1178
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:32,489
Mr. Trump says he will resolve
all burning issues within

1179
01:09:32,489 --> 01:09:36,629
several days, including the
Ukrainian crisis. We cannot help

1180
01:09:36,629 --> 01:09:40,109
but feel happy about it. What do
you make of that? Do you welcome

1181
01:09:40,769 --> 01:09:43,079
that? He said that because that
means what I'm saying is right.

1182
01:09:43,469 --> 01:09:46,769
I would get him into a room I
get Zelinsky into a room then

1183
01:09:46,769 --> 01:09:49,289
I'd bring them together and I'd
have the deal worked out. I

1184
01:09:49,289 --> 01:09:51,749
would get a deal worked out. It
would have been a lot easier

1185
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:56,699
before it started. Essentially
for four years. I kept them from

1186
01:09:56,759 --> 01:09:59,639
doing anything. Because you know
what? I will tell you this I've

1187
01:09:59,639 --> 01:10:03,989
never seen others, Ukraine was
the apple of his eye. I said,

1188
01:10:03,989 --> 01:10:06,959
Don't ever do it, don't ever do
it, he would have never done it.

1189
01:10:07,649 --> 01:10:11,729
But again, oil prices, he
wouldn't have done it because of

1190
01:10:11,729 --> 01:10:16,739
me. But oil prices, the prices
were so high that he had so much

1191
01:10:16,739 --> 01:10:20,909
money. So he had all this money
to prosecute the war. The one

1192
01:10:20,909 --> 01:10:24,209
who drove up the prices was
Biden, given that

1193
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:31,110
President Putin has bombed
maternity wards for 20,000 kids

1194
01:10:32,370 --> 01:10:35,730
from Russia, mass graves,

1195
01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:36,930
mass graves,

1196
01:10:37,020 --> 01:10:39,690
welcome his support his all but
endorsement.

1197
01:10:40,350 --> 01:10:43,650
Look, I had a very good
relationship with him. And yet

1198
01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:46,830
nobody was tougher on Russia
than me. I stopped Nord Stream

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01:10:46,830 --> 01:10:48,840
two, you never heard of Nord
Stream two. That was the

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,470
pipeline until I got involved. I
said Nord Stream two people that

1201
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:56,310
were sophisticated military
people and political people

1202
01:10:56,310 --> 01:11:00,720
never heard of Nord Stream to I
had it ended, the pipeline was

1203
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,200
dead. Biden came in and he
proved it. There was nobody

1204
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,620
tougher than me with Russia. And
yet I got along with Putin, let

1205
01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:10,950
me say I got along with him
really well. And that's a good

1206
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:14,490
thing. Not a bad thing. He's got
1700 nuclear missiles, and so do

1207
01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:18,270
we. But look, that's a good
thing. Getting along is okay.

1208
01:11:18,510 --> 01:11:21,570
But I got along through
strength, and the war would have

1209
01:11:21,570 --> 01:11:25,380
never happened, the war would
have never happened. Now what's

1210
01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:29,910
happened, it's so bad. The oil
price is so high, it's hard to

1211
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:33,960
get it stopped. The oil price is
so high. When he goes above 50

1212
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,130
and $60 a barrel. He makes a lot
of money on the war. Now, it's a

1213
01:11:38,130 --> 01:11:41,790
humanitarian thing. It's a lot
of different reasons. But I will

1214
01:11:41,790 --> 01:11:42,870
get that war stop.

1215
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:46,380
Adam Curry: A lot of interesting
things in there. About Norway

1216
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:49,650
thrown Nord Stream out Nord
Stream two, which is not the one

1217
01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:53,730
that was blown up. Very
interesting, and blaming it all

1218
01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:58,650
on Biden because of the oil
price. So let's talk about age,

1219
01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:00,150
because that's what we got to
do.

1220
01:12:00,180 --> 01:12:01,950
Unknown: What do you make of the
age issue? Should there be an

1221
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:03,690
age limit to running for
president, but

1222
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:07,110
there should be a competency.
I'm all for the tests. You know,

1223
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:10,380
I took a test two years ago,
three years ago. And as the

1224
01:12:10,380 --> 01:12:13,860
doctors said, and it was in
front of doctors and a whole big

1225
01:12:13,860 --> 01:12:17,490
deal at Walter Reed, which is an
incredible place. And I aced it,

1226
01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:21,480
I aced it, I get everything
right. I'm all for testing. I

1227
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:25,050
frankly, think testing would be
a good thing. A lot of people

1228
01:12:25,050 --> 01:12:28,350
say it's not constitutional to
do it. But I would be for

1229
01:12:29,310 --> 01:12:33,660
testing to test to make sure
everyone's just fine. But a lot

1230
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:36,480
of people say that can't happen
because of constitution.

1231
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:40,050
Adam Curry: Is that true? You
can't test a credit. He says

1232
01:12:40,050 --> 01:12:44,400
that. What was he talking about?
He always has reasons for

1233
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,060
throwing weird stuff out like
that. I think what he means is

1234
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:51,990
we can't actually find out the
Joe is feeble, because then

1235
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:54,900
well, then we have to invoke the
25th amendment. Maybe that's

1236
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:55,530
what he means.

1237
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,950
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
I think he's, I think I don't

1238
01:12:58,950 --> 01:13:02,760
think that's the that's too
convoluted. The 25th amendment

1239
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,210
can be implemented for any good
reason that you know, the guy

1240
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,910
has a sore toe, you could do it
if you wanted to.

1241
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:11,340
Adam Curry: All I know is Trump
throw stuff out there. And

1242
01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:14,490
there's always a reason for it
sometime years later, you Oh,

1243
01:13:14,490 --> 01:13:15,420
that's what that was about.

1244
01:13:16,050 --> 01:13:19,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree
does that but in this case, I'm

1245
01:13:19,710 --> 01:13:21,570
going to let's continue.

1246
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,220
Adam Curry: Let's continue with
with ageism.

1247
01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:25,290
Unknown: What do you say to
people who say it is time

1248
01:13:25,290 --> 01:13:28,350
for a new generation of leaders?
Well, it's always time for a new

1249
01:13:28,350 --> 01:13:31,290
generation. But you know, some
of the greatest world leaders

1250
01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:35,040
have been in their 80s. I'm not
anywhere very near 80, by the

1251
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:39,540
way, but okay, and Biden's not
too old. I don't think Biden

1252
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:42,270
Sure. But I think he's
incompetent. And that's a bigger

1253
01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:46,470
problem. I don't think he is
old. I know people that are 89.

1254
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:51,060
I know person 9495. Who's 100%.
Bernie Marcus, take a look at

1255
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:54,750
Bernie Marcus Home Depot. I
mean, he's been amazing for so

1256
01:13:54,750 --> 01:13:59,490
many years, he's 95 years old.
It's, it's really a level of

1257
01:13:59,490 --> 01:14:00,780
competency, not the age,

1258
01:14:00,810 --> 01:14:03,570
you will be in your 80s. If
you're reelected. Does that

1259
01:14:03,570 --> 01:14:04,590
concern you at all? Well, I

1260
01:14:04,590 --> 01:14:08,760
will be toward the end. No,
because my father lived much

1261
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,550
longer than that. My mother
lived much longer than that. So

1262
01:14:11,550 --> 01:14:12,990
genetically, that's a good
thing.

1263
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:15,660
Adam Curry: So the rest of the
interview wasn't all that

1264
01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:18,720
interesting, you know, but will
you pardon yourself? You know,

1265
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,380
these dumb questions. Kristi,
Noem, who's going to be your

1266
01:14:22,380 --> 01:14:27,210
running mate? You left a note
for Biden. What did it say? Is

1267
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,710
so Welker? I think she she laid
an egg on this one. The one that

1268
01:14:31,740 --> 01:14:35,100
that we really wanted to hear
about the one that Tucker didn't

1269
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:40,200
broach was the vaccine question.
And Megyn Kelly asked the

1270
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,670
question, and it's a long
answer. I think it's, I think

1271
01:14:44,670 --> 01:14:47,550
it's worthwhile to listen, we
can interrupt it worthwhile to

1272
01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:51,060
listen to what his answer was,
because this is truly the only

1273
01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:53,940
thing that matters to Magga
country at this point. When it

1274
01:14:53,940 --> 01:14:55,140
comes to President Trump.

1275
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:57,330
Unknown: This is the number one
question they wanted me to ask

1276
01:14:57,330 --> 01:14:59,940
you that you shut the country
down for six weeks in spring of

1277
01:14:59,940 --> 01:15:03,720
two 2020 operation warp speed,
excuse me rushing through. I

1278
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,720
didn't really I mean, let me let
me ask. This is my audience

1279
01:15:06,810 --> 01:15:07,620
lesson I gotta get it

1280
01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:11,730
out, but I let the governors
shut down. Some did and some

1281
01:15:11,730 --> 01:15:13,590
didn't. Okay, some didn't shut
down and

1282
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:16,710
operation warp speed, though
that was on the vaccines. They

1283
01:15:16,710 --> 01:15:19,770
were rushed through, they have
helped but also hurt a lot of

1284
01:15:19,770 --> 01:15:23,070
people. And your White House
actually supported mask

1285
01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:26,310
mandates. So wouldn't you like
to do over on any of that?

1286
01:15:27,660 --> 01:15:30,810
Look, when this came in, nobody
knew what the hell it was. It

1287
01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:34,320
sounded like an ancient, you
know, pandemic, you thought that

1288
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,800
was from 200 years ago or from
1970. And we never thought you'd

1289
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,930
have a pandemic. Nobody had any
idea. We got word that bad

1290
01:15:42,930 --> 01:15:45,960
things were happening in China
right around the Wuhan clinic.

1291
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,930
And I was the one that said it
was in the Wuhan clinic. And you

1292
01:15:48,930 --> 01:15:52,320
know, I stay stuck with it. And
it was it was absolutely, it

1293
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,760
came out of the Wuhan clinic.
But you take a look. And what we

1294
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,140
did was we this was brand new,
nobody knew what the hell it was

1295
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:05,340
this dust. Somebody said this
dust coming in from China. And

1296
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:07,950
it's killing people in Italy.
And it's killing people in

1297
01:16:07,950 --> 01:16:08,640
France. And

1298
01:16:08,670 --> 01:16:10,500
Adam Curry: you understand what
he's getting at here. What he's

1299
01:16:10,530 --> 01:16:14,430
what he's saying is, we didn't
know it's easy. I think what

1300
01:16:14,430 --> 01:16:17,940
he's saying is in hindsight,
easy to say that, but I got all

1301
01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:21,000
these messages, all this stuff
was happening, and I took

1302
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:21,810
actions going

1303
01:16:21,810 --> 01:16:24,810
Unknown: to kill people here.
And by the way, I shut it down

1304
01:16:24,810 --> 01:16:28,050
to China. That was a big move. I
saved 1000s hundreds of 1000s of

1305
01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:32,430
lives by doing it. But honestly,
nobody, I don't blame a lot of

1306
01:16:32,430 --> 01:16:36,150
people because nobody knew what
it was. Now we do understand it

1307
01:16:36,180 --> 01:16:38,910
somewhat. Nobody really
understands that even now,

1308
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:43,260
fully. But nobody knew what
COVID was. And it wasn't even a

1309
01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:46,350
name. I call it the China virus.
I still do I call it the China

1310
01:16:46,350 --> 01:16:47,580
virus it came out of China.

1311
01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:50,850
Adam Curry: He does these great
things where this is all NLP

1312
01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:53,640
what he's doing, it's so it's so
good. He'll give you some

1313
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,640
information, then zap your head
around what I call the China

1314
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,700
virus. And the it takes you back
to that takes you actually back

1315
01:16:59,700 --> 01:17:03,660
into the briefing room when he
was saying that is very smart.

1316
01:17:04,140 --> 01:17:08,100
Unknown: You know, they call it
COVID and COVID-19. As far as

1317
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:12,600
the vaccine is concerned, you
had the original COVID. And

1318
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:12,810
that's

1319
01:17:12,810 --> 01:17:16,020
Adam Curry: the original COVID.
This was original was different.

1320
01:17:16,110 --> 01:17:18,720
It's like original coke. It's
not like New Coke or Diet Coke.

1321
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,860
Its original COVID.

1322
01:17:20,430 --> 01:17:22,950
Unknown: The vaccine had an
impact on that. And there are

1323
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:26,310
some people I will tell you,
some friends of mine that are

1324
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:28,770
Democrat, I think they voted for
me. But the Democrats, very

1325
01:17:28,770 --> 01:17:31,680
smart people, tough people. They
say, you know, I don't

1326
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,010
understand one thing. Why don't
you talk more about the vaccine,

1327
01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:37,590
it was one of the greatest
things you've ever done. I think

1328
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:40,860
of that. They say to me, and I
say I'm not going to talk about

1329
01:17:40,860 --> 01:17:42,870
it one way or the other. First
of all, no,

1330
01:17:43,019 --> 01:17:45,569
Adam Curry: I think when he this
is I think this is also NLP when

1331
01:17:45,569 --> 01:17:50,909
he says the Democrats told him,
this is the greatest thing

1332
01:17:50,909 --> 01:17:54,269
you've ever done. Think about
it. So that immediately makes

1333
01:17:54,269 --> 01:17:57,239
you think Democrats were in
charge of this. It's really It's

1334
01:17:57,269 --> 01:17:58,739
I think is really interesting.

1335
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,280
Unknown: And the vaccine had an
impact on that. And there are

1336
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,640
some people I will tell you,
some friends of mine that are

1337
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,100
Democrat, I think they voted for
me, but they're Democrat, very

1338
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:11,040
smart people, tough people. They
say, you know, I don't

1339
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,340
understand one thing. Why don't
you talk more about the vaccine,

1340
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:16,950
it was one of the greatest
things you've ever done. I think

1341
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:20,220
of that. They say to me, and I
say, I'm not going to talk about

1342
01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:23,190
one way or the other. First of
all, no mandates. I don't want

1343
01:18:23,190 --> 01:18:24,990
mandates. I've never had
mandates.

1344
01:18:25,019 --> 01:18:26,909
Adam Curry: This is his thing.
This is his thing, because of

1345
01:18:26,909 --> 01:18:30,689
course we have to recall that
the vaccine was not administered

1346
01:18:30,689 --> 01:18:36,629
it was in in in. In fact, it was
held back until after the

1347
01:18:36,629 --> 01:18:38,579
election. Specifically was

1348
01:18:38,580 --> 01:18:41,280
John C Dvorak: you held back on
purpose? Yes. On purpose. The

1349
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,810
Florida advisor guys mainly it
was material. Yeah.

1350
01:18:45,810 --> 01:18:48,540
Adam Curry: Well, I was
political as well. But here we

1351
01:18:48,540 --> 01:18:51,240
go. No, he says no mandates. It
was no mandate. And then he's

1352
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,190
got to take a shot at DeSantis
and dates.

1353
01:18:53,220 --> 01:18:56,220
Unknown: I never had mandates of
Florida sort of had a mandate

1354
01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:58,530
because they were giving the
vaccine they were demanding

1355
01:18:58,530 --> 01:19:01,860
everybody take the vaccine,
that's another thing. But no

1356
01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:05,790
mandates no anything. I didn't
demand anybody take it. But I

1357
01:19:05,790 --> 01:19:08,760
have people on the other side. I
don't know from my side will

1358
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,880
know probably there's someone
might say to they said you saved

1359
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,430
100 million people because I got
it done in nine months as

1360
01:19:14,430 --> 01:19:17,310
opposed to five years to 12
years. A lot of people don't

1361
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:20,250
have it. No, I'm not proud of
it. I'm saying what Democrats

1362
01:19:20,250 --> 01:19:20,490
thinks

1363
01:19:20,519 --> 01:19:23,099
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting.
You're proud of it? No, I'm not

1364
01:19:23,099 --> 01:19:25,469
proud of it. No, I'm just
telling you what Democrats say.

1365
01:19:27,329 --> 01:19:29,849
It's better than I think people
realize and people

1366
01:19:29,850 --> 01:19:32,040
Unknown: because I got it done
in nine months as opposed to

1367
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,550
five years to 12 years. A lot of
people out of it. No, I'm not

1368
01:19:35,550 --> 01:19:38,820
proud of it. I'm saying what
Democrats thing. Democrats,

1369
01:19:38,850 --> 01:19:41,610
I get it and I'm not doing I'm
not somebody who denies some of

1370
01:19:41,610 --> 01:19:43,920
the good of the vaccines. Did I
live interesting.

1371
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,140
Adam Curry: Megan says she
doesn't deny some of the good of

1372
01:19:46,140 --> 01:19:49,560
the vaccine, even though she
herself says that she is vaccine

1373
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,060
injured. It's very interesting.

1374
01:19:51,090 --> 01:19:53,130
Unknown: No, I'm not proud of
it. I'm saying what Democrats

1375
01:19:53,130 --> 01:19:54,780
thing. Democrats,

1376
01:19:54,809 --> 01:19:57,629
I get it and I'm not. I'm not
somebody who denies some of the

1377
01:19:57,629 --> 01:20:00,269
good of the vaccines did I lived
through that too, but You know,

1378
01:20:00,329 --> 01:20:04,079
of course a lot of people have
been vaccine injured. And that's

1379
01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:06,359
one of the questions those
people are mad that they were

1380
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:08,039
rushed through and that they
can't sue.

1381
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,550
Well, I never gave mandates and
people have to make up their own

1382
01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:13,980
near make their own decision, as
far as I'm concerned. Now, some

1383
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:17,820
places had mandates I have very
strong mandates that largely

1384
01:20:17,820 --> 01:20:20,790
Democratic governors and
probably some Republicans, etc,

1385
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:23,580
etc. But wait, you're a
Democrat,

1386
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:26,160
John C Dvorak: as he talked
about when he says mandate,

1387
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,860
mandate mandate, but is he
talking about vaccine mandates

1388
01:20:28,860 --> 01:20:33,270
which he couldn't do because the
vaccine wasn't available? Or was

1389
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:36,090
he talking about mask mandates?
They never mentioned mask? Are

1390
01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:40,650
they talking about quarantine
mandates? What mandates is he

1391
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,240
referring to specifically

1392
01:20:42,270 --> 01:20:44,490
Adam Curry: only vaccine
mandates? In my opinion, that's

1393
01:20:44,490 --> 01:20:47,430
all that he saw. He won't he was
not going to discuss quarantine

1394
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:49,140
or massacre does not come up and
you know,

1395
01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:50,550
Unknown: make their own
decision, as far as I'm

1396
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:53,730
concerned. Now, some places had
mandates, very strong mandates,

1397
01:20:54,330 --> 01:20:58,050
largely Democrat governors and
probably some Republicans, etc,

1398
01:20:58,050 --> 01:21:03,270
etc. But there are Democrats
that say, why aren't you talking

1399
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,910
about that? It's one of the they
really believe strongly

1400
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,310
Adam Curry: is really trying to
put this into your head, the

1401
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:11,640
Democrats, it's the Democrats,
the Democrats, the Democrats

1402
01:21:11,670 --> 01:21:14,940
Unknown: once said, you say and
this is very smart people. They

1403
01:21:14,940 --> 01:21:19,830
said you saved 100 million
people worldwide. In 1917. You

1404
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:23,100
know, that it could have been as
much as 100 It ended the First

1405
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:25,980
World War because all the
soldiers were dying of, of this

1406
01:21:25,980 --> 01:21:30,300
horrible disease of 1917. You
know, it actually ended the

1407
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:33,240
First World War Two soldiers
were dying. That was one of

1408
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,220
lines. They're fighting and
they're dying.

1409
01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:38,640
Adam Curry: The only reason he
can be saying this somehow is to

1410
01:21:38,670 --> 01:21:42,240
lead us to remind us that
soldiers are dying our soldiers

1411
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,800
that the mandates the mandates
in the army and the military,

1412
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,470
that these mandates the soldiers
are dying, that must be

1413
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:51,990
something like that. I'm not I'm
not sure why he's doing that.

1414
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:52,500
Otherwise,

1415
01:21:52,530 --> 01:21:54,450
John C Dvorak: I think he's
freewheeling so

1416
01:21:55,380 --> 01:21:56,730
Adam Curry: possibly, possibly

1417
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,250
Unknown: this horrible disease.
They said, you might have saved

1418
01:21:59,250 --> 01:22:02,760
100 million people. 50 million
people. Why aren't you talking

1419
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,670
about it? I'm not talking about
it. But what I did do is I get

1420
01:22:05,670 --> 01:22:08,580
something done for that specific
thing.

1421
01:22:09,630 --> 01:22:11,640
Adam Curry: There is I got
something done so now he's

1422
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,840
saying hey, I didn't force it in
your arm. He should he should

1423
01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:19,710
never says he wasn't even
available during my my

1424
01:22:19,710 --> 01:22:22,980
presidency. I don't I'm not sure
why he doesn't say that. That's

1425
01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:26,400
a hedge, I think. But now he's
gonna say I did all the work

1426
01:22:26,430 --> 01:22:29,580
John C Dvorak: was available to
him. Once the election was over,

1427
01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:33,030
he had two months. Yeah, that he
was still in office. He could

1428
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:35,550
have done, you know, mandating.
Then

1429
01:22:35,850 --> 01:22:39,150
Unknown: I also got Regeneron
and I got a lot of therapeutics

1430
01:22:39,150 --> 01:22:40,080
done, which were great.

1431
01:22:40,500 --> 01:22:45,570
Adam Curry: Interesting. He
calls them therapeutics, which

1432
01:22:45,690 --> 01:22:51,570
would nullify any emergency
youth authorization. And

1433
01:22:51,570 --> 01:22:53,880
Regeneron. Was that really a
therapeutic?

1434
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:57,930
John C Dvorak: Guess I remember
I just vaguely remember what I

1435
01:22:57,930 --> 01:22:59,490
were Regeneron. What

1436
01:22:59,519 --> 01:23:02,489
Adam Curry: wasn't that bad? It
was a bad product. No, no, no,

1437
01:23:02,489 --> 01:23:06,779
it's remdesivir. Oh, okay.
Regeneron, I think is the

1438
01:23:06,779 --> 01:23:10,859
monoclonal antibodies, I think,
no, let me look it up. That's

1439
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,000
Unknown: thing. I also got
Regeneron. And I got a lot of

1440
01:23:15,060 --> 01:23:18,630
therapeutics done, which were
great. I also got the robes and

1441
01:23:18,630 --> 01:23:21,720
the leather and the rubber and
all of the different things to

1442
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,540
ventilators. We did a tremendous
job. And it's never, you know,

1443
01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:30,330
the appreciated what it did with
the economy. I got a lot of good

1444
01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:32,490
marks on the economy got a lot
of good marks and a lot of

1445
01:23:32,490 --> 01:23:36,210
things rebuilding the military
getting rid of ISIS, the biggest

1446
01:23:36,210 --> 01:23:41,430
tax cuts in history. Supreme, I
never got, I think the credit

1447
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:45,210
that I just uncovered, and I'll
tell you, the way I look at it,

1448
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:48,750
it came in and nobody knew it
was we have to put ourselves

1449
01:23:48,750 --> 01:23:52,710
back then. I had a meeting. And
we had a lot of professionals in

1450
01:23:52,740 --> 01:23:56,220
the Oval Office. They say sir,
something bad is happening in

1451
01:23:56,220 --> 01:24:00,120
the world. I said, What's that?
And they said, people are dying.

1452
01:24:00,570 --> 01:24:04,950
They're dying in China, in this
area. And those pictures of

1453
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:09,030
moneybags all over the place,
black body bags, satellite

1454
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:13,440
pictures. And they were all
over. I see this strange. And

1455
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,900
then I'd have a next another
meeting the next day and the

1456
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:18,990
next day and the next day, and
all of a sudden, they had

1457
01:24:18,990 --> 01:24:22,110
something where the first person
died in the United States and

1458
01:24:22,110 --> 01:24:24,870
then another Yeah, and then it
died. Then they started dying

1459
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:28,170
all over Italy and all over
Europe. Nobody really knew what

1460
01:24:28,170 --> 01:24:29,010
it was Megan,

1461
01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:33,510
I hear you. Let's shift gears
and talk about trans and women's

1462
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:34,020
rights.

1463
01:24:35,490 --> 01:24:38,280
Adam Curry: It is monoclonal
antibodies. That's what Okay,

1464
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:43,200
that's what it is. So he's kind
of saying I got duped you know,

1465
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,930
hey, no one knew what it was.
There was body bags, satellite

1466
01:24:45,930 --> 01:24:48,840
images of body bags I've never
seen I don't think that he never

1467
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,080
said he was duped. No, but I
know he's not saying they're

1468
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,860
John C Dvorak: still his issue.
He can can't say MIT any false

1469
01:24:55,890 --> 01:25:00,180
whatsoever. He can't say well,
that was a mistake. This We

1470
01:25:00,180 --> 01:25:03,720
can't simply say something was a
mistake.

1471
01:25:04,170 --> 01:25:05,220
Adam Curry: Is this pride?

1472
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,380
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
technically but there's more to

1473
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:14,700
it seems to me, because even the
most prideful person can say

1474
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:17,640
once in a while say they were
wrong on some and there's some

1475
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,680
circumstance this guy can't do
it.

1476
01:25:20,670 --> 01:25:23,430
Adam Curry: Pride disease that
makes everyone sick except the

1477
01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:29,670
person who has it. Anyway, I
thought Megan kind of gave up

1478
01:25:30,450 --> 01:25:32,850
the end there and then went to
trans and then yeah, you're

1479
01:25:32,850 --> 01:25:35,790
John C Dvorak: right. She
bailed. She did Bill. abruptly.

1480
01:25:37,230 --> 01:25:39,750
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, then she
went on to say, hey, you let

1481
01:25:40,110 --> 01:25:43,860
Caitlyn Jenner use your bathroom
like, okay, so, so sad.

1482
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,950
Pathetic. It really is.

1483
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:48,930
John C Dvorak: Well, at least
somebody brought it up to at

1484
01:25:48,930 --> 01:25:54,240
least listen to what his current
Spiel is it will is his Spiel

1485
01:25:54,660 --> 01:26:00,180
tends to morph over time as he
re analyzes what he said. So the

1486
01:26:00,180 --> 01:26:04,500
next time he says it, it's maybe
the maybe, yeah, and it'll

1487
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:09,000
probably be on one of his
speeches. So completely ironed

1488
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:09,390
out

1489
01:26:09,509 --> 01:26:11,309
Adam Curry: here. I guess he's
still working it out in his

1490
01:26:11,309 --> 01:26:14,579
head. This is not quite hitting
home yet. What do I have to

1491
01:26:14,579 --> 01:26:20,009
change? Well, he may not be
capable of it.

1492
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,010
John C Dvorak: He may not
because No, he's not capable.

1493
01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:28,080
But he can he can circumvent
what he can work it up. So he

1494
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:33,990
can do it a bit. You could do a
comedy act about it. To make it

1495
01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:34,440
funny,

1496
01:26:34,469 --> 01:26:40,259
Adam Curry: yeah. Speaking of
the transgender issue, now it's

1497
01:26:40,259 --> 01:26:41,579
time for our trans

1498
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:44,370
Unknown: gender athletes self
destruct initiated?

1499
01:26:44,910 --> 01:26:48,030
Adam Curry: Well, exactly as
expected, and I think you

1500
01:26:48,030 --> 01:26:53,130
prognosticated it, although they
are not actual lead bullets. It

1501
01:26:53,130 --> 01:26:57,720
looks like children who have
been who've been mutilated, are

1502
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:05,070
now firing away at doctors,
psychiatrists, psychologists,

1503
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:11,850
hospitals, hospitals, and
probably parents soon. We have

1504
01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:16,170
and it's it's mainly girls who
had been transitioned are now

1505
01:27:16,170 --> 01:27:19,950
coming out. There's lawsuits
being filed. And wow. Alex

1506
01:27:19,950 --> 01:27:24,000
Stein, you know, Alex Stein, the
real Alex Stein 99. He's the guy

1507
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,790
that goes into all those city
council meetings and will dress

1508
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:30,540
up the character. Yeah, I can
not judge. He's the best. So he

1509
01:27:30,540 --> 01:27:34,650
has a show, which I didn't
realize he has a comedy show.

1510
01:27:34,830 --> 01:27:40,260
And he has a Chloe Cole. And she
was slowly Yeah, he's one of the

1511
01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:45,690
main ones. Yes. Well, I opening
answers in this. Just this

1512
01:27:45,690 --> 01:27:48,420
little bit of this interview.
eye opening?

1513
01:27:48,450 --> 01:27:51,150
Unknown: Well, you know, this is
obviously a comedy show. But I

1514
01:27:51,150 --> 01:27:53,400
don't want to like be
disrespectful to you at all. You

1515
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,890
know, I want to definitely get
your story out there. So tell us

1516
01:27:55,890 --> 01:27:58,680
a little bit about what happened
at 14 and I've heard your story

1517
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,010
a bunch. But for the people that
haven't, you went to a doctor

1518
01:28:02,010 --> 01:28:03,900
and I believe the doctor
basically told your parents if

1519
01:28:03,900 --> 01:28:06,480
you don't do this, you are going
to kill yourself. Wasn't that

1520
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,540
one of the main motivations in
getting the gender? They're

1521
01:28:09,540 --> 01:28:12,030
getting the mastectomy at 14? Or
excuse me, 15?

1522
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:17,130
Oh, yeah, they totally homed in
on that when they're talking to

1523
01:28:17,130 --> 01:28:17,940
my parents.

1524
01:28:17,969 --> 01:28:21,509
Adam Curry: This is the would
you rather have a dead daughter

1525
01:28:21,509 --> 01:28:29,039
or a living son? Classic. But
interestingly, she wasn't saying

1526
01:28:29,039 --> 01:28:32,309
that until after they put her on
medication. Susan 15

1527
01:28:32,610 --> 01:28:36,990
Unknown: Oh, yeah, they totally
homed in on that when they're

1528
01:28:36,990 --> 01:28:42,960
talking to my parents about my
desire to become a boy. I wasn't

1529
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,440
suicidal at the time. Actually.
I wasn't suicidal until I was on

1530
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:50,160
the treatments that they put me
on which they put me on puberty

1531
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,430
blockers and testosterone when I
was very 13 years old. I was

1532
01:28:53,430 --> 01:28:56,310
about halfway through my eighth
grade year when they started

1533
01:28:56,310 --> 01:29:01,020
this and I was 15 when they
cleared me to go under the knife

1534
01:29:01,020 --> 01:29:04,440
and get a double mastectomy.
That's when I was just it was a

1535
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:06,960
summer after my after my
sophomore year of high school

1536
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,030
and they decided to remove my
breasts surgically.

1537
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:12,210
And yeah, if you would have
asked your parents for a tattoo

1538
01:29:12,210 --> 01:29:15,030
of Leonard Skinner or you had
Taylor Swift tattoo, do you

1539
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:16,680
think they would have given you
a Taylor Swift tattoo?

1540
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:21,480
Oh, no. I mean, they're in
California. It's illegal to even

1541
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:26,790
let anybody under 18 go into a
tanning booth. And yet they they

1542
01:29:26,790 --> 01:29:29,820
let kids see encourage kids
actually to undergo these

1543
01:29:29,940 --> 01:29:32,100
permanent life changing
procedures that will affect the

1544
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:33,900
entire course of development
from there on.

1545
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:37,560
Adam Curry: I thought this for
me, oh, wait a minute. The

1546
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:41,100
suicidal tendencies didn't come
until you put the kid on puberty

1547
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:43,920
blockers well that changes the
story a little bit

1548
01:29:44,309 --> 01:29:48,929
John C Dvorak: changes the story
a lot. One of my first is this

1549
01:29:48,929 --> 01:29:52,679
is going to be a dis is going to
be a horrendous and well

1550
01:29:52,679 --> 01:29:57,299
deserved nightmare. Because
she's not the only one and the

1551
01:29:57,299 --> 01:30:00,479
any one of these things where
they become popular Ah, you

1552
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,679
know, it's like all of a sudden
and other, it creates kind of a

1553
01:30:04,679 --> 01:30:09,839
cascade effect, which is what
has to happen. And all these

1554
01:30:09,839 --> 01:30:14,189
medical operations have got to
do they're going to be they're

1555
01:30:14,189 --> 01:30:16,709
having meetings as we speak. Oh,
you bet.

1556
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:19,500
Adam Curry: And it's it's going
to involve school, they do bet

1557
01:30:19,530 --> 01:30:24,150
you bet you better believe it. I
mean, Don't bet on it. You bet.

1558
01:30:24,180 --> 01:30:27,120
Well, you can bet on it. A
friend of mine, his wife is a

1559
01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:30,450
grade school teacher middle
school, I think they call it and

1560
01:30:30,930 --> 01:30:35,070
then she had the them in the
class of female. And I guess it

1561
01:30:35,070 --> 01:30:38,790
was some full school function.
And he asked his wife who said,

1562
01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:42,870
Hey, is that is that that? They
them's dad? She said, Yeah. How

1563
01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:44,460
do you know? He says, Well,
first of all, he's wearing a

1564
01:30:44,460 --> 01:30:48,090
Ukraine t shirt. So that was
just the easy guess. So it turns

1565
01:30:48,090 --> 01:30:53,310
out that these parents, third
grade hired a social worker to

1566
01:30:53,310 --> 01:30:57,030
come and monitor their child in
school to make she was make sure

1567
01:30:57,030 --> 01:31:00,390
she was okay all the time. And
the school teacher said, they

1568
01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:03,900
made her so paranoid. With a
social worker hanging around she

1569
01:31:03,900 --> 01:31:07,830
had to add, but she thought the
whole world was about her and

1570
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:11,610
that completely broke her brain.
And then there you go, you

1571
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,320
transgender gotta be a boy. It's
all of it, the whole system. And

1572
01:31:16,350 --> 01:31:20,940
it I have to say it's coming
from, from mind controlled MK

1573
01:31:20,940 --> 01:31:25,410
Ultra parents who wants and this
goes back to my my hairdresser.

1574
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,640
Who were the crazy ones during
COVID. And now they have they

1575
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,010
need control over their lives.
And here's something I can

1576
01:31:32,010 --> 01:31:35,970
control. My kid is trans. Yes, I
have control over this. Got it.

1577
01:31:35,970 --> 01:31:39,750
I understand that I'm being told
that this is right. And just and

1578
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:43,560
it's so sad because these
parents that you have to forgive

1579
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,530
them. They don't know what
they're doing. They've been

1580
01:31:46,530 --> 01:31:50,700
manipulated, completely
psychologically manipulated into

1581
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:55,740
this. Anyone who, who wears a
mask by themselves in their car,

1582
01:31:55,860 --> 01:32:00,030
you need to make sure their
children are okay. Check. Check.

1583
01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:01,920
Check on me. Sure. The

1584
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,350
John C Dvorak: windows are
rolled down in a hot car check.

1585
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:11,940
Adam Curry: You got to check on
a man. Wow. It's just it's just

1586
01:32:11,940 --> 01:32:14,700
nuts. Really is.

1587
01:32:16,170 --> 01:32:17,850
John C Dvorak: I don't have any
transgender stuff.

1588
01:32:18,780 --> 01:32:20,910
Adam Curry: That's really all I
have on the on the train. I

1589
01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:24,330
mean, we can't have although I
there was some, some pretty

1590
01:32:24,330 --> 01:32:27,690
funny. And actually, we have the

1591
01:32:27,690 --> 01:32:30,600
John C Dvorak: actually I do
have something, Brian. Okay.

1592
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:34,680
There's some great, you know,
California's nuts about some of

1593
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:35,280
this stuff.

1594
01:32:35,610 --> 01:32:38,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, I've heard I'm
reliably informed.

1595
01:32:40,050 --> 01:32:45,120
John C Dvorak: So we have a
couple of bills, school bills,

1596
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,270
you know, they make sure that
the things are in order that the

1597
01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:52,770
legislature is going to pass.
There's I have two clips is

1598
01:32:52,770 --> 01:32:55,440
California school bill a

1599
01:32:55,620 --> 01:32:58,860
Unknown: to California bills
could impact how classrooms and

1600
01:32:58,860 --> 01:33:03,060
school board meetings are run if
signed. The first is Senate Bill

1601
01:33:03,060 --> 01:33:07,350
274. Introduced by Democratic
Senator Nancy Skinner. The bill

1602
01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:10,470
would ban schools from
suspending students who disrupt

1603
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:15,300
class or defy teachers known as
willful defiance suspensions.

1604
01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:18,960
The amendments taken the
assembly extend the current

1605
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:23,400
sunset, on willful defiance
suspensions prohibition for

1606
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:28,410
middle school students, and
creates a sunset provision for

1607
01:33:28,410 --> 01:33:30,120
this on high school students.

1608
01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:32,520
The bill has received bipartisan
support.

1609
01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:35,910
And Skinner previously said
suspensions lead to students

1610
01:33:35,940 --> 01:33:40,200
dropping out of school at a time
when many are still behind due

1611
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:45,030
to the COVID 19 pandemic. But
people in opposition argue that

1612
01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:48,090
the bill is almost like a
license for the kids to

1613
01:33:48,090 --> 01:33:51,780
misbehave, being detrimental to
the learning of others in the

1614
01:33:51,780 --> 01:33:52,590
classrooms.

1615
01:33:52,770 --> 01:33:55,770
Adam Curry: Isaiah 31 knows our
six it passed the

1616
01:33:55,770 --> 01:33:58,650
Unknown: legislature and is now
awaiting Governor Gavin Newsom

1617
01:33:58,650 --> 01:34:00,810
signature in the coming weeks.
Okay,

1618
01:34:01,020 --> 01:34:03,840
Adam Curry: let me just
understand, because not Not, not

1619
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,760
everyone in the world
understands the tension. So

1620
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,760
detention is when you've been a
bad boy or girl in the class

1621
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,250
you're sent to the principal's
office at least is the way I

1622
01:34:11,250 --> 01:34:14,220
remember it. And the principle
says You have detention, which

1623
01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:18,030
means you have to stay after
school in Detention Hall and you

1624
01:34:18,030 --> 01:34:20,880
have to be quiet and do your
homework. And you stay there for

1625
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,490
an extra hour or so you might
have to do it for a week or two.

1626
01:34:23,490 --> 01:34:25,500
Is that Is that what we're
talking about here?

1627
01:34:25,530 --> 01:34:27,630
John C Dvorak: But they're
talking about mostly suspensions

1628
01:34:27,630 --> 01:34:30,930
where you get kicked out of
school for a week. Okay? Because

1629
01:34:30,930 --> 01:34:32,370
you knife the teacher.

1630
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:35,730
Adam Curry: Was that the example
given?

1631
01:34:36,330 --> 01:34:38,460
John C Dvorak: No, but it might
as well be. I mean, it's like

1632
01:34:38,460 --> 01:34:43,050
the kids who are just Maniacs
and there are kids who are

1633
01:34:43,050 --> 01:34:47,220
maniacs and have to be kicked
out of the school and they won't

1634
01:34:47,220 --> 01:34:50,460
do now you can't do that you
have to put up with them. Which

1635
01:34:50,460 --> 01:34:53,130
means that all the kids will
suffer because you'll have these

1636
01:34:53,340 --> 01:34:56,940
troublemakers and kids who are
genuine troublemakers if anyone

1637
01:34:56,940 --> 01:35:00,960
can remember back when you were
a kid, there are kids were just

1638
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,010
troublemakers and they loved it.
Now they're giving a gift.

1639
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,160
You're giving them a free rein
and you don't think they know

1640
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:08,550
it.

1641
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,580
Adam Curry: I would like to
refer everyone to a wonderful

1642
01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:15,390
movie known as The Breakfast
Club with Molly Ringwald, and

1643
01:35:15,390 --> 01:35:19,560
Judd Nelson and, and these kids,
these troublemakers were put

1644
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,550
into detention, which comes
before suspension. And the whole

1645
01:35:23,550 --> 01:35:26,130
movie is about that and they
turned into wonderful human

1646
01:35:26,130 --> 01:35:27,450
beings at the end of the movie.

1647
01:35:27,870 --> 01:35:31,950
John C Dvorak: That's where they
got it from. This past a wall.

1648
01:35:33,090 --> 01:35:35,310
Adam Curry: It's no good. The
Breakfast Club sucks.

1649
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,910
John C Dvorak: So let's play a
clip to this as another thing

1650
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:39,570
going on

1651
01:35:39,660 --> 01:35:43,260
Unknown: the second bill, Senate
Bill 596 would make it a

1652
01:35:43,260 --> 01:35:47,430
misdemeanor to harass school
employees or disrupt school

1653
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:50,730
board meetings. It's also
awaiting the governor's a final

1654
01:35:50,730 --> 01:35:55,260
decision introduced by Senator
Anthony Portantino in February,

1655
01:35:55,410 --> 01:35:59,640
individuals who harass school
staff in verbal written or

1656
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:04,200
electronic communication may
face up to $1,000 in fines and

1657
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:09,030
jail time. Critics say this bill
silences parents and protects

1658
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:12,870
school employees from public
criticism, not harassment.

1659
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:17,760
Governor Newsom has until
October 14 to sign or veto bills

1660
01:36:17,850 --> 01:36:21,420
this legislative year. So

1661
01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:25,470
John C Dvorak: so if you're on
Twitter and you say your school

1662
01:36:25,470 --> 01:36:29,280
board sucks you're gonna be
fined $1,000 This is very

1663
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:33,420
Chinese by the way. China PRC
stuff

1664
01:36:33,450 --> 01:36:36,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, social credit
score. I like it.

1665
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:39,420
John C Dvorak: It's pretty much
the same thing. And now we have

1666
01:36:39,420 --> 01:36:44,190
the last thing which is oh,
there's finally somebody's

1667
01:36:44,190 --> 01:36:47,670
pushing back against this and
the government is kept

1668
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:53,400
California from from imposing
their crazy car mandates in his

1669
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,600
California Car mandates no been
kicked back by the by the Fed

1670
01:36:57,810 --> 01:36:58,440
feds.

1671
01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:02,130
Unknown: California may not be
allowed to implement zero

1672
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,730
emission vehicle mandate. House
lawmakers voted to strike it

1673
01:37:05,730 --> 01:37:09,630
down. And it wasn't just a
Republican majority a Democrats

1674
01:37:09,660 --> 01:37:12,930
agreed and tedious Jayson Blair
has the latest

1675
01:37:12,990 --> 01:37:16,260
there preserving choice in
vehicle purchases Act passed the

1676
01:37:16,260 --> 01:37:19,050
House on Thursday with the new
party line vote

1677
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,780
Adam Curry: Who is screaming at
me where's this from? Is this a

1678
01:37:21,780 --> 01:37:23,100
local news report

1679
01:37:24,510 --> 01:37:27,450
Unknown: and TD alleges
legislation seeks to void

1680
01:37:27,450 --> 01:37:30,810
regulations in California that
would ban the sale of new

1681
01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:35,100
gasoline powered vehicles by
2035. In order to fight climate

1682
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:38,130
change, the mainly Republican
supporters said that

1683
01:37:38,130 --> 01:37:41,910
California's mandate will have
negative economic effects and

1684
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:45,420
intrudes on consumers ability to
choose a car that best fits

1685
01:37:45,420 --> 01:37:48,690
their needs domain the Democrat
opponents argued that the

1686
01:37:48,690 --> 01:37:51,840
mandate is needed to combat
climate change and reduce

1687
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,170
pollution of saying the
transportation sector is a major

1688
01:37:55,170 --> 01:37:57,360
contributor to greenhouse gases.

1689
01:37:57,810 --> 01:38:01,710
Americans can make consumer
choices based on their merits

1690
01:38:01,710 --> 01:38:06,540
and needs, not radical mandates
rooted in trying to force Green

1691
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:08,610
New Deal directives on families.

1692
01:38:08,910 --> 01:38:12,870
This bill disregards over 50
years of precedent, erasing

1693
01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:16,440
decades of progress made by
states to protect Americans from

1694
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:17,550
dangerous air pollution.

1695
01:38:18,450 --> 01:38:20,610
Adam Curry: And now has this
passed or is this still up for

1696
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:21,300
for votes

1697
01:38:21,330 --> 01:38:23,070
John C Dvorak: for graduating is
passed, but it hasn't been

1698
01:38:23,070 --> 01:38:27,690
signed. By the way. The little
kicker at the end is what got me

1699
01:38:28,260 --> 01:38:32,940
which is we need to we need to
get electric cars are because of

1700
01:38:32,940 --> 01:38:36,990
dangerous air pollution. That is
not the same as global warming.

1701
01:38:37,890 --> 01:38:40,620
Adam Curry: I think we need to
bring this jingle back. People

1702
01:38:40,620 --> 01:38:45,030
are asking for it to the gate to
the gate to the clinic. I think

1703
01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:48,330
we just need to use it as a
general jingle for all things

1704
01:38:48,330 --> 01:38:51,000
climate madness. I'll kick it
off

1705
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:55,050
Unknown: a city ripped to
pieces. Apocalyptic scenes

1706
01:38:55,050 --> 01:38:58,860
abound in Turner. After rain
from storm Daniel collapsed dams

1707
01:38:58,890 --> 01:39:03,750
outside the city. floods drown
1000 soon afterwards. But the

1708
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:07,080
question is now being asked.
Could it all have been prevented

1709
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:11,280
in Libya, where access to data
is still so difficult, where

1710
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:14,670
there's a compounded problem of
the problems of the dams

1711
01:39:14,670 --> 01:39:18,330
breaking as well as the storm
breaking from the from the sea.

1712
01:39:19,230 --> 01:39:23,850
This is this is a tragedy in
which climate and capacity has

1713
01:39:23,850 --> 01:39:27,180
collided to cause this terrible
terrible tragedy.

1714
01:39:27,690 --> 01:39:32,820
Adam Curry: Climate and capacity
has collided to cause this

1715
01:39:32,940 --> 01:39:36,960
tragedy. This is the new term
that climate might clip by there

1716
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,990
was a year just mind that's
that's the UN douche. That's

1717
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:44,340
climate and capacity. These are
the two new this is the new

1718
01:39:44,340 --> 01:39:46,920
term. I think this is what's
going to be the new thing.

1719
01:39:47,190 --> 01:39:49,470
John C Dvorak: Well they do have
a there's a there's there are

1720
01:39:49,470 --> 01:39:53,970
pushing this idea that we're
over capacity. I've no I'm just

1721
01:39:53,970 --> 01:39:56,880
playing my clip as you if it's
in this one, the catastrophic

1722
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,970
Unknown: flooding in Libya came
as a new study found Earths II

1723
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,540
ecosystems are outside of their
safe operating space for

1724
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:06,030
humanity. The report in the
journal

1725
01:40:08,970 --> 01:40:12,570
Adam Curry: gotta hear that one
you know, I'm sorry we got it.

1726
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:19,500
AMY GOODMAN flippin bound. I'm
sorry everybody people are angry

1727
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:21,060
I didn't warn them. Here we go
started to get

1728
01:40:21,090 --> 01:40:24,150
Unknown: catastrophic flooding
in Libya came as a new study

1729
01:40:24,150 --> 01:40:27,930
found Earth's ecosystems are
outside of their safe operating

1730
01:40:27,930 --> 01:40:29,370
space for humanity.

1731
01:40:29,610 --> 01:40:33,060
Adam Curry: Oh man that's
beautiful outside of their safe

1732
01:40:33,090 --> 01:40:35,220
operating space for humanity.

1733
01:40:37,050 --> 01:40:40,140
Unknown: The report in the
journal Science Advances warns

1734
01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:43,740
of imbalances to injury of key
measurements of the planet's

1735
01:40:43,740 --> 01:40:47,970
health, including biodiversity,
freshwater pollution and the

1736
01:40:47,970 --> 01:40:52,230
climate. Climate scientists
Johan rock strim co authored the

1737
01:40:52,230 --> 01:40:52,920
report,

1738
01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:56,730
six of the nine boundaries are
outside of their safe space. The

1739
01:40:56,730 --> 01:41:00,750
four boundaries that we assessed
in 2015 are deeper into the red

1740
01:41:00,750 --> 01:41:04,110
so we're continuing to move in
the wrong direction. And this is

1741
01:41:04,110 --> 01:41:05,130
a big concern.

1742
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:09,900
Close to 800 organizations have
endorsed climate actions

1743
01:41:09,900 --> 01:41:14,220
beginning Friday culminating in
a march to end fossil fuel

1744
01:41:14,220 --> 01:41:18,870
Sunday here in New York at the
United Nations My

1745
01:41:18,930 --> 01:41:23,460
Adam Curry: goodness so yeah, so
now I just got I gotta write

1746
01:41:23,460 --> 01:41:26,130
this down I got I'm sorry. I
have to write down exactly what

1747
01:41:26,130 --> 01:41:27,210
she's catastrophic

1748
01:41:27,210 --> 01:41:30,150
Unknown: flooding in Libya came
as a new study found Earth's

1749
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:33,870
ecosystems are outside of their
safe operating space for

1750
01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:35,250
humanity, Earth

1751
01:41:36,810 --> 01:41:40,620
John C Dvorak: space or Safe
Space Systems

1752
01:41:40,980 --> 01:41:46,830
Adam Curry: outside of safe
operating space

1753
01:41:47,340 --> 01:41:48,240
John C Dvorak: for humanity

1754
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Adam Curry: humanity. Okay,
here's what I'd like to say.

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01:41:52,650 --> 01:41:55,530
Bullshit and with that I'd like
to thank you for your courage in

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01:41:55,530 --> 01:41:58,230
the morning to man who just put
the sea in the climate and

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01:41:58,230 --> 01:42:01,050
capacity catastrophe say hello
to my friend on the other end

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the one and only Mr. John

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01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,090
John C Dvorak: creemos ship see
boots on the ground feet near

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01:42:09,090 --> 01:42:13,110
southern to the water and all
the names of the trolls and the

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01:42:13,110 --> 01:42:15,330
Adam Curry: troll room Hello,
trolls I put your hands up let

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01:42:15,330 --> 01:42:16,050
me see Hello

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01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,990
Oh, we got a short row of ducks
with a Niner two two to nine on

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01:42:24,990 --> 01:42:29,220
the troll count today. 2229.
Trolls listening, I think is

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01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:31,710
decent for that's pretty good.
It's a little low a little low,

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01:42:31,710 --> 01:42:35,340
but not too bad considering we
are 142 into the show.

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,350
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we want 24

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01:42:37,380 --> 01:42:39,510
Adam Curry: We do want 24 But
thank you more trolls are

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01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:42,090
sticking around and they know
the Powerball numbers coming up

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01:42:42,090 --> 01:42:45,270
in the donation segment as it
always is. Thank you trolls for

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01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:48,990
being with us. You can join them
at troll room.io. And that's

1772
01:42:48,990 --> 01:42:52,650
where you can listen live. You
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1774
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encouragement and all kinds of
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socialist, where we're banned
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social.com There's still some
Mastodon instances out there

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that federate with us. It's one
big happy family here is go

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yeah, oh, no, there's
definitely. Oh, yeah, totally.

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That many. Nothing that we
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01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:56,220
anyway, we should be
successfully driven everybody

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off good work, everybody is what
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agenda. social.com Jhansi,
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And remember, this is a value
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others. We don't subscribe to
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Think to yourself, Wow, that's
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1802
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shouldn't be listening. If it's
valuable, send it back to us

1803
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organize a meet up. You can tell
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You can also create artwork for
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right while we're speaking they
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time, because research shows Is
that fresh new art for every

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single episode makes people
interested and wants them that

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compels them like, wow, what is
going on here something new is

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happening. I want to be a part
of that. And you can, you can by

1811
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,770
just listening to it or creating
some artwork. And the artwork

1812
01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:21,090
for the previous episode 1590
was very valuable to us. The

1813
01:45:21,090 --> 01:45:24,540
title of that show was bold
action. And after some hemming

1814
01:45:24,540 --> 01:45:29,460
and hawing, we realized it took
us quite a while actually to

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01:45:29,490 --> 01:45:32,160
come up with this. It realized
we

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01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,290
John C Dvorak: take this a lot.
This was the this was a

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01:45:34,290 --> 01:45:35,340
fallback.

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01:45:35,610 --> 01:45:38,580
Adam Curry: But after but it
turns out, this was a genius

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01:45:38,580 --> 01:45:39,240
choice.

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01:45:39,540 --> 01:45:42,330
John C Dvorak: No, it was a
great choice. It turns out that

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01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:45,840
which is typical when we do this
when we have this, I don't like

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01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,060
this, you don't like this, why
like this, but you guys still

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01:45:48,270 --> 01:45:50,160
you still smile, you can't

1824
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,410
Adam Curry: read it. Oh, you're
nailing my voice. It's so

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01:45:52,410 --> 01:45:52,980
accurate.

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01:45:53,010 --> 01:45:55,350
John C Dvorak: I'm getting
they're getting they're gonna

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01:45:55,350 --> 01:46:01,080
lose. I could use a bit better
deep notes, but I'm getting one

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01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,050
after the other, which is I had
this and he had that. And he

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01:46:04,050 --> 01:46:06,780
didn't like this. He didn't like
anything. You actually said to

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01:46:06,780 --> 01:46:08,100
Adam Curry: me. You're in a

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01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:11,340
John C Dvorak: mood. I did
because you were in a mood.

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01:46:11,460 --> 01:46:13,500
Adam Curry: And I said, No, I'm
not in the mood. I just disagree

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01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:15,630
with you. old coot. And so

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01:46:16,890 --> 01:46:18,960
John C Dvorak: you're going back
and forth. And back and forth.

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01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,270
And back. It was really took
about 10 minutes.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, it took longer
than.

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01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,840
John C Dvorak: And so then it
turned out that when we picked

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01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,820
which was a fallback, it was
like,

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01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,750
Adam Curry: Oh, well, we can
agree on that one. And it was

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01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:37,680
the best choice. I think in
hindsight, this got a lot of a

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01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:41,520
lot of attention, people. I got
people texting me. Wow, what a

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01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,490
great you guys are genius. You
chose the right one, or the

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01:46:44,490 --> 01:46:47,430
best. Like that's right. That's
how that's how we roll. That's

1844
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:50,940
why there's two of us. Francisco
Scaramanga brought us the

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01:46:50,940 --> 01:46:56,100
artwork for 1590. Very, very
detailed, very good to affirm a

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01:46:56,100 --> 01:46:59,250
mockingbird, of course,
referring to the scandal of

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01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:03,750
libraries, dropping all books
from before 2008, I got an email

1848
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:07,860
from a librarian about this, who
says I've been waiting for this

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01:47:07,860 --> 01:47:10,680
is why listen to the donation
segment. I've been waiting for a

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01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,890
while for y'all to cover that
what the library BS raging my

1851
01:47:13,890 --> 01:47:17,550
best guess about weeding in
Canada and Canadian school

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01:47:17,550 --> 01:47:21,900
libraries. They picked 2008
Because it's 15 years ago, and

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01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:25,800
library administrators are lazy
and disorganized. They just

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01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,830
picked that round year because
that's when the woke mind virus

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01:47:28,830 --> 01:47:32,460
ramped up. It's also possible
that some head librarian from

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01:47:32,460 --> 01:47:37,650
that era retired. So now they
can toss all the bad books with

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01:47:37,650 --> 01:47:42,420
impunity. At my library books
that don't get checked out for a

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01:47:42,420 --> 01:47:46,950
whole year are sold or pulped.
The administration regularly

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wants to trash the whole
reference section.

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John C Dvorak: You know, that's
funny, because I have we have a

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01:47:55,410 --> 01:48:01,230
book sale here in Albany, which
is a small community that has a

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01:48:01,230 --> 01:48:06,630
library that does this two book
sales a year and one of them is

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people donate their books, and
then they take books from all

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the various libraries and it's
all there. And so I you can buy

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a complete set of Encyclopedia
Britannica for like $8 Wow, as

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and they have all I've had I
have so many reference books.

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01:48:23,010 --> 01:48:28,170
I've got the Cambridge reference
book of American ethnic groups,

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which is huge, by the way, and I
was like, two bucks or three

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01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:35,760
bucks. So you can load up if you
have your own library in your

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01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,320
own plate, you know, yeah, hold
up

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01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,270
Adam Curry: people. You got a
house like Johnny, you've

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01:48:39,300 --> 01:48:41,730
removed all your family members
loaded up

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01:48:42,630 --> 01:48:45,900
John C Dvorak: with books. So
you can get all these cookbooks,

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01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:51,330
books I got all these books. No,
it's It's a bonanza. I have them

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they're cheap.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. So they
expunge or pulp expensive art

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01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:02,880
books, historical atlases and
our library and says library

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01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,620
land has collectively lost its

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01:49:04,889 --> 01:49:09,659
John C Dvorak: shot for stop,
stop. Let's stop and mention

1880
01:49:09,659 --> 01:49:15,239
what they mean when they say
pulp. Damage means they grind up

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01:49:15,239 --> 01:49:20,279
the books. Yeah, and send it to
a paper recycling company. Yeah,

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01:49:20,699 --> 01:49:23,069
so this is worse than book
burning.

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Adam Curry: By the way, I'd like
to point out that that the media

1884
01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:31,890
is using banning burning and
using all kinds of B words were

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01:49:31,890 --> 01:49:35,460
really it's limiting access to
children it's a little different

1886
01:49:35,460 --> 01:49:37,860
and they make it all sound so
Nazi like

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01:49:39,630 --> 01:49:43,590
John C Dvorak: they want to turn
all our kids into patriots

1888
01:49:43,590 --> 01:49:46,590
Hitler you can elect a union.

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01:49:47,550 --> 01:49:50,580
Adam Curry: Library land has
collectively lost its mind

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01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:53,430
libraries have forgotten their
core business is giving patrons

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01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:57,270
the books and info that patrons
want. Libraries have shown their

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01:49:57,270 --> 01:50:00,450
core value of neutrality in
favor of virtues. Originally,

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and I'm I'm you know, in 1987, I
was asked by the ALA, the

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01:50:06,270 --> 01:50:10,950
American Library Association to
participate in a poster campaign

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01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:14,250
for them as an MTV. You were
Yes. And I

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01:50:14,250 --> 01:50:16,920
John C Dvorak: wish I can't tell
you stop reading from the note.

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01:50:17,940 --> 01:50:20,430
Adam Curry: No, this is me as
I'm sorry. No, it's me. This is

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01:50:20,430 --> 01:50:24,300
me. I stopped reading from the
note. No. And there was a poster

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01:50:24,300 --> 01:50:29,970
campaign and was me. In my full
MTV glorified hair, I can't find

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01:50:29,970 --> 01:50:35,160
it. It was like it was I'm sure
the tagline is like, reading is

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01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:40,140
good kids. Now something like
that. I wish I could find that.

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01:50:40,140 --> 01:50:42,690
I wish I could find a copy of
that poster. There was it was an

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01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:44,850
actual poster and they put it in
libraries. Hey,

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01:50:44,850 --> 01:50:46,350
John C Dvorak: yeah, you
shouldn't have that on your wall

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01:50:46,350 --> 01:50:46,950
of shame.

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01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:50,340
Adam Curry: Well, these days I'd
be ashamed of it or you know,

1907
01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:51,720
kind of like you have your

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01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,750
John C Dvorak: book owning the
word good with the EU is

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01:50:54,750 --> 01:50:55,170
probably.

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01:50:56,370 --> 01:50:59,340
Adam Curry: Okay, John. Thank
you, Francisco. Scaramanga

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01:50:59,340 --> 01:51:03,060
Should we just take a quick look
at some of the other pieces that

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01:51:03,060 --> 01:51:06,930
didn't make the cut that we had
such arguments over? Because let

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01:51:06,930 --> 01:51:08,730
me see if I can just

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John C Dvorak: do COVID Campbell
piece I liked a lot. I liked the

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01:51:13,230 --> 01:51:15,270
no agenda library card the
little

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01:51:15,780 --> 01:51:19,320
Adam Curry: stop. That's not
where you started. That's not at

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01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:20,190
all where you started.

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01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:21,810
John C Dvorak: Where did I
start? Okay.

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01:51:22,230 --> 01:51:25,800
Adam Curry: So you started with
the MEK. You started with the

1920
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,420
alien. You wanted the aliens?

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01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:31,020
John C Dvorak: I started with a
with a sombrero a flying saucer

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01:51:31,020 --> 01:51:31,350
flying

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01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:36,480
Adam Curry: saucer, right. And I
said, well, a looks like AI. By

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01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:39,690
the way, almost everything looks
like aI these days. Everyone's

1925
01:51:39,690 --> 01:51:43,680
using it because it is it is.
And I said Adam Korean Johnson

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01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,400
of work is no little Mexican
dancing dudes. It's too small.

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01:51:47,790 --> 01:51:51,720
John C Dvorak: Course. That's
what you said. Because it is. I

1928
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,510
agreed with that. The Mexican
dancer too small. Then I started

1929
01:51:54,510 --> 01:51:57,390
looking around and I went I
think it went to the card next.

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01:51:58,650 --> 01:52:02,640
Adam Curry: No, you went to the
quarantine camp signs.

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01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,780
John C Dvorak: Color the COVID
camp toxic shock.

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01:52:06,780 --> 01:52:09,120
Adam Curry: Yeah. And I was
like, that's kind of a played

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out. No, no, I'm sorry. You're
right. You started with the

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01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:16,650
library. I love the library
card. I'm like, Dude, why if it

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said 2008 on it, maybe.

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John C Dvorak: But that was a
that was a kicker. That 2008

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01:52:23,010 --> 01:52:26,160
little gang. Yeah, I had to give
him

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01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,060
Adam Curry: one you did so and
then after I was correct about

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01:52:30,060 --> 01:52:34,980
two of these. You said urine and
nude. And what else did we argue

1940
01:52:34,980 --> 01:52:36,780
about? And then I would I
couldn't I

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01:52:36,780 --> 01:52:42,030
John C Dvorak: went to the camp
and you said dad at camp. And so

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01:52:42,030 --> 01:52:42,240
I

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01:52:43,230 --> 01:52:44,850
Adam Curry: think you're right.
I think that's that is what I

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01:52:44,850 --> 01:52:45,600
said about the camp.

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01:52:46,230 --> 01:52:49,500
John C Dvorak: And then there
was some different things you

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01:52:49,500 --> 01:52:52,350
want to do. Let's let's stop
there because you kept pushing

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01:52:52,350 --> 01:52:57,090
for the Nico's curry Divorce Act
Mexican guy jumping out of it. I

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01:52:57,090 --> 01:53:01,620
liked that one. Nyko Simes. Ven
go on pause. Yes. I

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01:53:01,620 --> 01:53:03,450
Adam Curry: liked that one.
Yeah,

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01:53:03,540 --> 01:53:04,440
John C Dvorak: it's like,

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01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:09,240
Adam Curry: and then I didn't
and then as a compromise. I

1952
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:14,250
tried to throw out the Canadian
Camp Fire by Matt Boisvert. And,

1953
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,170
you know, which had showed a
fire.

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01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,060
John C Dvorak: Right? You You
came up with that? And I said,

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01:53:18,060 --> 01:53:21,720
What? No, you

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01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,210
Adam Curry: didn't you were
actually quite you said, yeah.

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01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,630
But you know, I see the maple
leaf but you don't see the fire.

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01:53:27,780 --> 01:53:31,620
And I and I conceded. And then
you said, Well, what about that

1959
01:53:32,490 --> 01:53:36,480
mockingbird thing? That then we
both looked at it. And we went

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01:53:36,540 --> 01:53:40,440
John C Dvorak: I was exasperated
at that point. And so I came up

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01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:40,560
with

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01:53:41,670 --> 01:53:44,550
Adam Curry: to go to the to the
stupid supermarket, the one with

1963
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:48,390
all the ugly, the ugly produce.
You want it to leave, you're

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01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:51,030
done. You were done with me.
You're done with the show.

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You're done with everybody.
That's not true.

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John C Dvorak: And so, okay, so
we really looked at it. I looked

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01:53:57,630 --> 01:54:00,240
at it, we couldn't see anything
wrong with it.

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01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:02,310
Adam Curry: And that when you
even mentioned that it had the

1969
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:06,960
little pride pride colors behind
it was nice

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01:54:07,050 --> 01:54:10,740
John C Dvorak: little pride
colors. That was a nice touch.

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01:54:11,580 --> 01:54:13,890
Adam Curry: Turns out to be one
of the better ones. I mean,

1972
01:54:14,580 --> 01:54:19,380
killer it really is. Who knew?
Who knew? Sometimes that's how

1973
01:54:19,380 --> 01:54:23,640
it goes. And I'm I am proud of
us for sticking with it. No one

1974
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:27,000
rage quit. No, we stuck through
it.

1975
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:30,360
John C Dvorak: But when you
really have issues, we end up

1976
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,240
going into the archives. We
didn't know we didn't go to the

1977
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:36,570
archive. Now we go to the
archives. Well, let's take see

1978
01:54:36,570 --> 01:54:42,450
what was submitted to Vince show
1100. Look at some pieces there.

1979
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,370
Adam Curry: We got lucky we
didn't have to resort to the

1980
01:54:44,370 --> 01:54:45,360
evergreens.

1981
01:54:46,470 --> 01:54:48,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the
evergreens which are a mess, by

1982
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:49,080
the way,

1983
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,210
Adam Curry: like no one wants
the evergreens to be pulled up.

1984
01:54:51,660 --> 01:54:54,960
So that's talent, and we thank
Francisco Scaramanga for

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01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,170
providing us with pure raw
talent. Great job. Thank you to

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01:54:58,170 --> 01:55:01,920
all the artists who diligently
for Vitus with choices please

1987
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:06,510
back off on the AI people if you
can just see it change you can

1988
01:55:06,510 --> 01:55:10,680
see in the past few months you
can see is all AI even people

1989
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,470
who are really good artists are
I think that they're putting

1990
01:55:13,470 --> 01:55:18,720
their their art into AI and say
hey slick this up a bit you know

1991
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:24,150
what I mean? But it's everything
seems AI II to me AIA Am I Am I

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01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:25,830
wrong and seeing this change

1993
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:31,230
John C Dvorak: I saw weeks ago
Yeah, okay. You're an artist? No

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01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:35,580
well I just saw a weeks ago good
I mean soon as this was comic

1995
01:55:35,580 --> 01:55:40,110
strip blogger gave up on the on
his butt drawings and started

1996
01:55:40,110 --> 01:55:45,330
submitting you know, things that
are 3d. It's kind of a giveaway.

1997
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,040
Adam Curry: Once the asked when
to 3d, we knew it was all over.

1998
01:55:50,610 --> 01:55:54,900
That's how it goes people. Let's
talk about some treasure. We

1999
01:55:54,900 --> 01:55:57,570
have executive and Associate
Executive Producers just like

2000
01:55:57,570 --> 01:55:59,970
Hollywood, these are titles that
are Real you can use them

2001
01:55:59,970 --> 01:56:03,420
anywhere and they are accepted
even on IMDb and we kick it off

2002
01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:07,830
with our top executive
producers. As we have a duo here

2003
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:11,190
Dame Becky and Sir Mike from
Katy Texas who come in with

2004
01:56:11,190 --> 01:56:16,080
519 17 and they say there's a
reason for this number

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01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,710
numerology counts. Happy
anniversary to us. We were

2006
01:56:19,710 --> 01:56:23,520
married on September Sunday,
September 17. That's show day

2007
01:56:23,730 --> 01:56:29,640
1972 show 1591 hits on our
anniversary date and day hence

2008
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,640
the donation amount Dame Becky
and Sir Mike of the great Katy

2009
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:36,030
Prairie. No jingles but double
karma for all the small business

2010
01:56:36,030 --> 01:56:40,170
owners and get my nation and we
say congratulations, and Happy

2011
01:56:40,170 --> 01:56:40,890
anniversary.

2012
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:44,520
Unknown: You've got karma.

2013
01:56:46,620 --> 01:56:50,970
John C Dvorak: Next on the list
is Jim Schneeberger in Cary,

2014
01:56:50,970 --> 01:56:55,740
North Carolina. And he sent a
note in he didn't put it right.

2015
01:56:55,950 --> 01:56:58,410
He didn't put donation on the
first one. That second one came

2016
01:56:58,410 --> 01:57:00,810
in the next day, so we didn't
get it in here, but here it is.

2017
01:57:00,870 --> 01:57:01,200
Oh, you

2018
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:02,310
Adam Curry: have a knighthood.
Good.

2019
01:57:02,340 --> 01:57:07,110
John C Dvorak: I have it. ITM
thanks for all you do. Is there

2020
01:57:07,110 --> 01:57:12,990
a simple note? Jim Bob way of
Shotzi land and Grand Duchess

2021
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:17,850
she should be by now. Anyway,
Marianne Schneeberger she of the

2022
01:57:17,850 --> 01:57:22,740
healing hands. This worry will
be at my side in Valhalla one

2023
01:57:22,740 --> 01:57:26,250
day. No, no jingles, no karma.

2024
01:57:27,420 --> 01:57:32,400
Adam Curry: Okay. Next is Jean
morphus in Bellingham,

2025
01:57:32,490 --> 01:57:36,300
Massachusetts. 34567. See
attached note which I have in

2026
01:57:36,300 --> 01:57:39,780
front of me. It is a it's not
just a note, it's two pages of

2027
01:57:39,780 --> 01:57:44,910
typed information on his own
classy letterhead, and we will

2028
01:57:44,910 --> 01:57:48,330
not read everything. However, he
says enclosed please find a

2029
01:57:48,330 --> 01:57:51,570
measure of value. Some reaction
to John's hypothesis that the

2030
01:57:51,570 --> 01:57:54,990
mafia conducted the JFK
assassination and the CIA was

2031
01:57:54,990 --> 01:57:57,870
powerless on the sidelines. It
is certainly possible if not

2032
01:57:57,870 --> 01:58:00,780
likely, that mobsters were the
triggerman in the USA in the

2033
01:58:00,780 --> 01:58:05,820
assassination. convicted felon
James files claims to have been

2034
01:58:05,820 --> 01:58:09,240
the shooter on the grassy knoll
and named Charles Nicoletti and

2035
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:13,050
John Rosselli as associates, the
FBI investigated but some

2036
01:58:13,050 --> 01:58:15,960
concluded he wasn't reliable, of
course, had they concluded he

2037
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,540
was reliable it would destroy
both the lone gunman and the

2038
01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:21,810
magic bullet arguments.
Connections between the Intel

2039
01:58:21,810 --> 01:58:24,690
agencies and the mob are widely
documented. However, the

2040
01:58:24,690 --> 01:58:28,530
gigantic cover up was certainly
the domain of Intel agencies. It

2041
01:58:28,530 --> 01:58:32,340
is equally likely likely that
CIA officers Allen Dulles and

2042
01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:35,550
Richard Helms were the
masterminds and it gives us

2043
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:43,290
many, many points to back up his
his thesis. Yeah. And which I

2044
01:58:43,290 --> 01:58:45,150
don't think we have to go
through but they are all

2045
01:58:45,810 --> 01:58:47,940
perfect. They're all
interesting, all interesting,

2046
01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:50,730
and we appreciate that and we
will give him a double karma.

2047
01:58:50,940 --> 01:58:55,770
Just for the effort. Thank you.
Karma

2048
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,480
John C Dvorak: and onward with
where are we? Oh, it Catherine

2049
01:59:03,510 --> 01:59:09,270
night. She's in Mesa, Arizona.
And she has a switcheroo. Oh,

2050
01:59:09,450 --> 01:59:14,940
all right. I have to get better
at his ITM. I previously

2051
01:59:14,970 --> 01:59:19,350
neglected to thank my son Billy
night. She is she's in with

2052
01:59:19,350 --> 01:59:23,940
33333 for hitting me in the
mouth. He qualifies as a

2053
01:59:23,940 --> 01:59:27,150
douchebag. But please credit
this donation to him. So he can

2054
01:59:27,150 --> 01:59:34,380
be dee doo dee doo. And he has
been added to the birthday list

2055
01:59:34,410 --> 01:59:36,810
and 919 Thank you for your
courage. Very

2056
01:59:36,810 --> 01:59:41,550
Adam Curry: nice. Thank you,
Sharon. Push NiaK St. Paul,

2057
01:59:41,550 --> 01:59:45,360
Minnesota 333 dot 33. One of our
famous favorite amounts. Good

2058
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,420
day, Adam and John. I'm ashamed
to say I've been listening to

2059
01:59:48,420 --> 01:59:52,050
your podcast since the pandemic
began. And I haven't donated

2060
01:59:52,050 --> 01:59:55,590
till now. I'm sorry. I love the
show. It truly is the best

2061
01:59:55,590 --> 01:59:58,620
podcast in the universe. You
make light of the darkness out

2062
01:59:58,620 --> 02:00:03,270
there. It's nice to listen To
news and have a few laughs My

2063
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:08,430
friend Sarah dame of the Lake
Mary gates introduced me to the

2064
02:00:08,430 --> 02:00:11,460
show and we chat and share
laughs about your shows and all

2065
02:00:11,460 --> 02:00:13,770
the valuable information they're
in. She called me out as a

2066
02:00:13,770 --> 02:00:16,440
douchebag a while ago and it's
about time I get d douche.

2067
02:00:17,970 --> 02:00:21,420
You've been de douche. I was
born and raised in Canada and

2068
02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:24,090
now living in the US. I love
hearing about all the crap going

2069
02:00:24,090 --> 02:00:27,630
down in Canada as well as the
US. What did you call Trudeau? A

2070
02:00:27,630 --> 02:00:31,980
wet noodle? That's funny. Couple
of items to mention whoever said

2071
02:00:31,980 --> 02:00:35,190
something negative about John's
voice needs to get a life. Oh,

2072
02:00:35,190 --> 02:00:38,070
you got it. We got a fan girl
here. And in your recent

2073
02:00:38,070 --> 02:00:41,040
donation segment the bit about
Obama's Dick was kind of funny.

2074
02:00:41,220 --> 02:00:43,860
It's okay to add something
useless and distasteful but a

2075
02:00:43,860 --> 02:00:46,890
bit funny. I was okay with it. I
had a good laugh. We're one for

2076
02:00:46,890 --> 02:00:51,690
one John one. I'd like to call
out my friend Joe Lena as a

2077
02:00:51,690 --> 02:00:55,680
douchebag no jingles no karma.
Just keep doing what you're

2078
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,110
doing. Thank you for the laughs
and all your hard work behind

2079
02:00:58,110 --> 02:01:01,230
the scenes cheers Sharon puts me
out good thank you Sharon. We

2080
02:01:01,230 --> 02:01:04,560
appreciate those nice note very
nice note loved it CNR

2081
02:01:04,590 --> 02:01:09,060
John C Dvorak: in King George
Virginia. Well, we are on our

2082
02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:15,270
way to another gorgeous meet up.
She oh you are I think she might

2083
02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:18,000
have had decided that today is
the day that we will claim our

2084
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:21,960
first executive producer credit
as we walk hand in hand toward

2085
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,560
the round table C and R in K G

2086
02:01:25,590 --> 02:01:30,090
Adam Curry: Oh nice. Okay. We
have sir CB checking in from

2087
02:01:30,090 --> 02:01:33,840
Harris, Minnesota 333 AC and JCD
greetings to all producers the

2088
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,360
best podcast in the universe.
Thank you, John and Adam for the

2089
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:39,690
best media deconstruction that
keeps us all sane. Please

2090
02:01:39,690 --> 02:01:41,970
encourage all producers in the
area to make their way to the

2091
02:01:41,970 --> 02:01:45,420
cornerstone pub and prime in the
city, Wyoming message Miss

2092
02:01:45,780 --> 02:01:49,050
Minnesota nuts for the goat
karma producers local 33 meet up

2093
02:01:49,050 --> 02:01:53,610
the return of cert expert on
Friday September 22 at 7pm Help

2094
02:01:53,610 --> 02:01:56,790
us welcome sir de expert back to
the land of the loonies this

2095
02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:59,850
donation finds me above the
level required for Baronet.

2096
02:02:00,540 --> 02:02:04,530
Please title me Sir See me
Baronet of the builders. Can I

2097
02:02:04,530 --> 02:02:08,730
get a don't Raph and a massive
helping of TPP jobs karma for me

2098
02:02:08,730 --> 02:02:12,780
and all in need of it. Thank you
for all you do 70 threes he

2099
02:02:12,780 --> 02:02:15,870
didn't give us his callsign you
can't just do a 70 threes

2100
02:02:15,870 --> 02:02:18,990
without your callsign that's in
violation of the Canada ham

2101
02:02:18,990 --> 02:02:23,340
code. 70 threes keep a five
Alpha Charlie Charlie sir CB

2102
02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:25,440
Baronet of the builders long
enough.

2103
02:02:26,130 --> 02:02:32,250
John C Dvorak: Why are you
laughing? Shut up. Sir up, shut

2104
02:02:32,250 --> 02:02:41,370
up first. Jay's gonna step down
to jobs calm is syrup in

2105
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:46,650
albergue Vermont. Of all places.
23456 becomes our first

2106
02:02:46,650 --> 02:02:49,110
Associate Executive producer
says he's enjoying the show

2107
02:02:49,110 --> 02:02:53,340
birthday donations from my
lovely wife Robin today. 917 my

2108
02:02:53,340 --> 02:02:58,950
third son Justin on 915 And my
second son Jesse on 10 Six.

2109
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:04,740
Thanks for all you do. Know
jangles just some relationship

2110
02:03:04,740 --> 02:03:07,440
karma syrup of the Green
Mountains.

2111
02:03:07,710 --> 02:03:11,340
Adam Curry: Relationship karma.
Here you go. You've got karma.

2112
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:21,570
It's up next. Tara gray Lanagan,
Saskatoon, Canada Navia. Rove

2113
02:03:21,570 --> 02:03:26,430
ducks. 2222 222 dot 22. Sorry.
He's Associate Executive

2114
02:03:26,430 --> 02:03:28,380
producers. Hey, John and Adam in
the morning I'm setting this row

2115
02:03:28,380 --> 02:03:31,860
of ducks in honor of Jamie gray.
My smokin hot husband turns 50

2116
02:03:31,860 --> 02:03:35,040
On September 16. He hit me in
the mouth in 2020. And we

2117
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:38,700
haven't stopped listening since.
As this is our first donation a

2118
02:03:38,700 --> 02:03:40,920
D douching. For him would be
much appreciated.

2119
02:03:42,510 --> 02:03:44,370
Unknown: You've been D deuced.

2120
02:03:44,610 --> 02:03:47,610
Adam Curry: I shall remain a
douche but not for much longer.

2121
02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:49,920
Thank you for the amygdala
shrinkage. His only request

2122
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,980
other than jingles is to confirm
that we really could seek refuge

2123
02:03:52,980 --> 02:03:56,160
with Adam and Tina if we need to
flee from the insanity of our

2124
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,580
totalitarian regime here in
Canada Navia it's getting wild

2125
02:03:59,580 --> 02:04:04,800
up here in all the wrong ways.
Did I say that? Was that I say

2126
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,120
that they could seek refuge with

2127
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:08,760
John C Dvorak: us if Yeah, you
did. Well, there you go.

2128
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:12,420
Adam Curry: We have a guest room
limited availability. His jingle

2129
02:04:12,420 --> 02:04:17,010
requests our call to prayer.
Fletcher what is I don't I don't

2130
02:04:17,010 --> 02:04:21,720
know a call to prayer from
Fletcher and this is a weird

2131
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:22,200
one. I think

2132
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:23,580
John C Dvorak: it's the one
where the where he's kind of

2133
02:04:23,580 --> 02:04:26,610
chanting this Ali Akbar. Okay,
well, I

2134
02:04:26,610 --> 02:04:29,760
Adam Curry: have that one.
Sunday service. Oh yes, I got

2135
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:32,370
that one and the burglary
burglary Amen. Thanks for

2136
02:04:32,370 --> 02:04:35,670
everyone. For everything you do
to keep us all honest.

2137
02:04:36,450 --> 02:04:41,340
Unknown: Too and no agenda they
give us as we get there we

2138
02:04:41,370 --> 02:04:47,160
donate to and no agenda is the
show that's really unique.

2139
02:04:47,220 --> 02:04:54,150
Donate to the no agenda. List.
The John Adams be the only two

2140
02:04:54,150 --> 02:04:59,610
with no agenda. Science is
turned into a clique of children

2141
02:04:59,610 --> 02:05:00,120
is I'm

2142
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:07,830
gonna get a little

2143
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:21,030
Adam Curry: proof long sequence
and

2144
02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:27,480
John C Dvorak: I have to do son
of a bloke in nao Ohio. Ne tu tu

2145
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:31,530
tu tu tu tu which is a row of
ducks. ITM John and Adam a row

2146
02:05:31,530 --> 02:05:37,620
of ducks and a 55555 Switcheroo
from Sir Ohio bloke qualifies me

2147
02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:41,730
for knighthood accounting
attached. May I be dubbed it sir

2148
02:05:41,730 --> 02:05:46,200
son of a bloke? I may have
waffles and wine at the round

2149
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:49,950
table. Also gonna have a
birthday shout out for myself

2150
02:05:49,950 --> 02:05:54,300
September 17 25 years my brother
Dominic on September 28. Check

2151
02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:58,080
to see these because it's not
yellow here. So I'm always I

2152
02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:59,850
think it's in there. Yes, it's
in there. We're good.

2153
02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:03,000
Everybody's there's a big list.
It's a big list. And my mother

2154
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:08,130
bloke eight blokes Sheila, on
September 26. No jingles. No

2155
02:06:08,130 --> 02:06:11,490
karma taken for the best podcast
in the universe. Thanks, son of

2156
02:06:11,490 --> 02:06:11,580
a

2157
02:06:11,580 --> 02:06:14,370
Adam Curry: bloke son of a
bloke. Thank you, sir. Touchy

2158
02:06:14,370 --> 02:06:18,840
posts. Bozeman, Montana. $200.
We're almost done here with the

2159
02:06:18,870 --> 02:06:24,840
execs and Associates. Dear Na,
homies, I was cheering and

2160
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:27,810
listening to Episode 5091 I had
to drop everything and donate so

2161
02:06:27,810 --> 02:06:31,860
I can pitch it John. Now I'm
just a lowly industrial

2162
02:06:31,860 --> 02:06:34,920
engineer, but even I know that
hydrogen is an extremely viable

2163
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,680
alternative for Coke and
steelmaking and damage. John,

2164
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:42,270
you should too. I guess about
the clean steel that we were

2165
02:06:42,270 --> 02:06:45,390
talking about which has nothing
to do with this but he feels you

2166
02:06:45,390 --> 02:06:49,080
should have you should have
piped up and said dusting off

2167
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:52,830
your college chemistry book.
Then be reminded that hydrogen

2168
02:06:52,830 --> 02:06:56,940
is also a very potent reducing
agent instead of giving off co2

2169
02:06:56,940 --> 02:07:01,830
like burning coal the byproduct
is pure water. Now what was he

2170
02:07:01,830 --> 02:07:05,550
the point was he was making is
that purified coal is used as a

2171
02:07:05,550 --> 02:07:08,730
reducing agent for removal of
impurities and pig iron. We

2172
02:07:08,730 --> 02:07:12,840
don't have to invoke any climate
change hysteria to agree on I

2173
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,090
think he needs to do his own
podcast is what I'm thinking.

2174
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:17,520
John C Dvorak: Ah, this has a
potential

2175
02:07:17,550 --> 02:07:19,920
Adam Curry: Yeah, he does. He
does I mean he has knowledge he

2176
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:21,570
has knowledge but

2177
02:07:21,930 --> 02:07:24,450
John C Dvorak: you have to have
which is unlike most podcasters

2178
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:28,290
Adam Curry: good point and his
point was that he was

2179
02:07:28,290 --> 02:07:30,210
disappointed that you didn't
pipe up and

2180
02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:32,940
John C Dvorak: nightly just
still making it's never been

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something I've known that much
about

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Anyway, we
appreciate your support and your

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note has been been taken in and
appreciated as well sir touchy

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posts of the Gallatin County
Fairgrounds. Thank you very

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02:07:44,910 --> 02:07:45,720
much.

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John C Dvorak: And finally, we
have Linda Lou paddock in

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Lakewood, Colorado, jobs karma.
And for a resume that gets

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results go to Image makers
inc.com For all your executive

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resume and job search needs.
That's image makers equal to

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k.com or just find Linda lapad
Can under the show's producer,

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list and run a search jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

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02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:20,130
Adam Curry: And we thank our
Executive Associate Executive

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producers for bringing us
episode 1591 Very much

2195
02:08:24,300 --> 02:08:27,780
appreciated. Good notes, thank
you good donations. It really

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02:08:27,780 --> 02:08:30,090
keeps the engine running. We
appreciate it. We have a few

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02:08:30,090 --> 02:08:33,570
more people to thank as we go as
John will take us through the

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02:08:33,570 --> 02:08:36,540
rest plow so you plow through
and maybe

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John C Dvorak: starting with Pay
Pal $118.74 Probably a refund

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02:08:42,690 --> 02:08:48,120
banks pay pal, Laura masters
Leora masters in London brand to

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UK $100.01 Lucas Williams in
Roswell, New Mexico there er 100

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02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:05,490
Shawn coffee in Annandale New
South Wales. 100 I sent a note

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02:09:05,490 --> 02:09:12,660
to Adam Melissa Reeve in
Winchester, Virginia. 100 James

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02:09:12,660 --> 02:09:16,350
Zookal in Tucson, Arizona. 100
Laura Starks in Green Bay

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02:09:16,350 --> 02:09:23,010
Wisconsin birthday 808 hoobs
Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North

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02:09:23,010 --> 02:09:27,960
Carolina. There he is again
continuing as Ron 808 and this

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02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:33,150
time he's promoting a rich
sweetness. The rich sweetness

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02:09:33,150 --> 02:09:40,290
melon. Okay. Dame Jen in Athens,
Georgia 67 another birthday,

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happy birthday, Sonia, Cory, a
buckwheat 5656568 And he's in

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London, Ontario, Canada. long
note for some reason there's any

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02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:57,720
new issues in there. I don't see
it. We'll read that note to

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02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:02,100
ourselves. Read a Harrington and
sparks Nevada there she is 65

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02:10:05,010 --> 02:10:10,290
Joshua Hartley are Party Part
Part key? Joshua Harkin

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02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:15,120
challenge Chela che Jalen.
Jalen, I think Washington I

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02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:19,170
should know how to pronounce it.
606 got a birthday call out for

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02:10:19,170 --> 02:10:24,750
Maria. Coming up. Kevin
McLaughlin. 606 was small boobs,

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02:10:24,780 --> 02:10:28,200
North Concord, North Carolina
and this time he's promoting the

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02:10:28,230 --> 02:10:34,590
icle mouse melon. It go I see. K
L E mouse. I'm going

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02:10:34,590 --> 02:10:35,940
Adam Curry: to ask for that at
HEB.

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02:10:36,479 --> 02:10:39,059
John C Dvorak: We'll never find
them in a million years Sheila

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02:10:39,059 --> 02:10:48,389
Ryan in Paris, France. Oh 5684
And Shayla parisian woman sent

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02:10:48,389 --> 02:10:49,949
us a donation

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02:10:50,009 --> 02:10:55,949
Adam Curry: and she was shocked.
She says Shotover Shana Tova Lee

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02:10:55,980 --> 02:11:01,290
John C Dvorak: les Tark kowski
in Kingman, Arizona is 57 Sir

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02:11:01,290 --> 02:11:05,910
Ohio bloke and nao Ohio we heard
from him earlier. As a switch

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02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:12,180
roofer son of a bloke Richard
Futter in London, UK 5510 James

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02:11:12,180 --> 02:11:15,870
Edmondson South Plainfield, New
Jersey 5510 Charles couch in

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02:11:15,870 --> 02:11:22,860
Thornton, Colorado 52 at ash and
Flower Mound at Texas 5233 Mark

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02:11:23,130 --> 02:11:29,280
bendit Bender kowski in West
sola, Poland Hey Poland, Warsaw.

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02:11:29,430 --> 02:11:32,850
It says work with solar but
Warsaw is where he is

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02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:34,890
Adam Curry: we need boots on the
ground. How's everything going

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02:11:34,890 --> 02:11:35,220
there?

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02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:38,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, and
these are all the he's the

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02:11:38,070 --> 02:11:41,310
beginning of the $50 donations
which I'll name and location,

2235
02:11:41,670 --> 02:11:46,230
one after the other, beginning
with him and then big papa. Big

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02:11:46,230 --> 02:11:50,760
Papa productions in Minneapolis,
Minnesota nuts. Philip pollute

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02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:53,580
blue in Louisville, Kentucky,
Michael Thompson and new brown

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02:11:53,580 --> 02:12:00,270
fells Texas. Michael Pirot.
Could be karate or parrot in

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02:12:00,270 --> 02:12:05,040
Salem, Oregon. Easy landscapes
in North Stonington Connecticut

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if you got landscape needs easy.
Kelly McGee make a deal in

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02:12:10,500 --> 02:12:14,220
Mission Hills, Kansas, Chris
Lewinsky in Sherwood Park,

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02:12:14,220 --> 02:12:21,000
Alberta. John Edgar McLean in
Newton, Massachusetts. David

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02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:27,600
Jarman in New South Wales, with
a nice the Powerball number.

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02:12:27,690 --> 02:12:29,760
Adam Curry: Well, he had to he
said he knew the Powerball

2245
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:36,510
number was 5000. And he said
here's 1% which is Aussie dollar

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02:12:36,510 --> 02:12:36,870
so

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02:12:37,020 --> 02:12:40,440
John C Dvorak: he's got a
birthday coming up does. Nathan

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02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:45,240
Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee,
Indiana, my buddy Nathan, Nathan

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02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:51,810
Hey Nathan, Tatiana Prince in
Hollywood, Florida, Peter odo in

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02:12:51,810 --> 02:12:58,980
Ridge New York, Steven Chu Mach
in Xenia, Ohio, Joan poles in

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02:12:58,980 --> 02:13:03,870
her Nando Beach, Florida and
Baron Allen being who is now in

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02:13:03,870 --> 02:13:09,000
Beaverton, Oregon. He has 50 And
that concludes our list of well

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02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:13,230
wishers and producers for show
1591

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02:13:13,530 --> 02:13:15,660
Adam Curry: And thank you to
everyone under $50. Typically,

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for reasons of anonymity. I will
read one note from Luke from

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02:13:18,450 --> 02:13:22,230
Alexandria, Virginia spooks
Ville he says I started my night

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02:13:22,230 --> 02:13:24,840
layaway program in hopes of
someday joining the vaunted and

2258
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:26,880
distinguished group of other
Knights and Dames at the

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02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:29,010
Norwegian roundtable I've been
listening to show now for over

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02:13:29,010 --> 02:13:32,040
two years and I want to be able
to give some value back to all

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02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:35,070
that I have taken. I hope my
monthly donations will keep help

2262
02:13:35,070 --> 02:13:38,550
keep the show going and look
forward to each episode. Yes You

2263
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:41,430
better believe it Luke we
appreciate that. It's not the

2264
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:44,370
amount is the fact that you send
something back and whatever you

2265
02:13:44,370 --> 02:13:47,160
are putting in on a monthly
basis. I'm sure it's meaningful

2266
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:50,190
to you and therefore very
meaningful to us thank you to

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02:13:50,190 --> 02:13:53,970
these producers. Thank you to
those of them who are on the on

2268
02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:56,730
the sustaining donations such as
Luke and of course to our

2269
02:13:56,730 --> 02:13:59,100
executive and Associate
Executive Producers you have

2270
02:13:59,100 --> 02:14:02,310
really kept us going these
titles are real they are forever

2271
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:08,880
and you can use them anywhere
titles are used. Our formula is

2272
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:12,570
this. We go out we get people in
the mouth

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02:14:33,540 --> 02:14:36,660
Yes, we do have quite the list
the number the first number

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coming from Sir upper wishes his
third son Justin, a happy

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02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:44,460
birthday celebrating the 15th
his wife Robin today and his

2276
02:14:44,460 --> 02:14:48,450
second son Jesse who celebrates
on October sixth. Tara gray

2277
02:14:48,450 --> 02:14:51,270
wishes her smokin hot husband
Jamie gray a happy one he

2278
02:14:51,270 --> 02:14:54,960
celebrated yesterday turned 50
Sure Ohio bloke for son of a

2279
02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:58,230
bloke turns 25 today Happy
Birthday son of the bloke also

2280
02:14:58,230 --> 02:15:03,090
says Happy Birthday to you his
mom blokes Sheila, celebrating

2281
02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:07,530
26 And on the 28th His brother
Dominic will be celebrating game

2282
02:15:07,530 --> 02:15:12,510
Jen Happy Birthday Sonia she
turned 17 tomorrow and Joe will

2283
02:15:12,510 --> 02:15:16,020
be turning 50 on the 20th Laura
starts which is her husband Lee,

2284
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:19,380
a happy one for the 19th and
Catherine nights has had the

2285
02:15:19,380 --> 02:15:23,610
birthday to her son Billy. Also
on the 19th Joshua Hartke Maria

2286
02:15:23,610 --> 02:15:26,340
Hartke says we'll be celebrating
the 19th Happy Birthday and

2287
02:15:26,340 --> 02:15:29,760
David Jarman turns 37 on the
20th Happy birthday from

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02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,700
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe

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02:15:42,210 --> 02:15:43,560
Unknown: don't want to be
introduced

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02:15:43,650 --> 02:15:46,680
Adam Curry: we have exactly one
little change but it's no small

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02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:51,390
one sir CB now becomes a Baronet
thanks to his upping up or to

2292
02:15:51,390 --> 02:15:55,770
another aggregate total of
$1,000 he becomes sir CB Baronet

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02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,080
of the builders and we
congratulate him with that

2294
02:15:58,080 --> 02:16:01,440
peerage up edge. And thank you
for supporting the no agenda

2295
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:06,630
show one night and this is the
the son of the bloke who was

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02:16:06,630 --> 02:16:10,680
going to be Oh, that's a that's
a bloke. Grab mug There we go.

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02:16:12,660 --> 02:16:16,740
Well you their sons son of a
bloke hop up on podium here you

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02:16:16,740 --> 02:16:19,770
are about to become a knight of
the no agenda roundtable I am

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02:16:19,770 --> 02:16:21,960
therefore very proud to
pronounce the K D with the

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02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:25,110
following title donated to you
apparently on behalf of your

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02:16:25,110 --> 02:16:29,760
dad. You are hereby to always be
known as Sir son of a bloke for

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02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:32,760
you. We've got oh yeah, dad
wanted hookers and blow what

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02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:35,790
rent boys and short name also we
got the waffles and wine as

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02:16:35,790 --> 02:16:39,210
requested. Besides that diet
soda and video games you might

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02:16:39,210 --> 02:16:41,610
enjoy that harlots and how
they'll always good for a young

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02:16:41,610 --> 02:16:45,150
some beer and Bloods, Brazilian
hotties Inca Sha Sha vaca

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02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:48,210
delegation sakeI buckets and
bourbon sparkling cider an S for

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02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:52,260
ginger Allah journals, breast
milk and popular more. He's

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02:16:52,260 --> 02:16:54,450
already drinking it. He's
already drinking the meat and

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02:16:54,450 --> 02:16:57,390
munching on the mountain while
you're doing that, get one hand

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02:16:57,390 --> 02:17:01,170
free the non greasy one surf
over to no agenda rings.com Take

2312
02:17:01,170 --> 02:17:05,070
a look at these handsome night
and Dame rings. One of them is

2313
02:17:05,070 --> 02:17:08,130
yours all you have to do is send
in your ring size handy ring

2314
02:17:08,130 --> 02:17:11,220
sizing guide there you'll get
your ring with the address you

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02:17:11,220 --> 02:17:13,950
provide to us along with your
wax to seal your important

2316
02:17:13,950 --> 02:17:16,950
correspondence and of course a
signed certificate of

2317
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:19,890
authenticity and welcome to the
round table the no agenda nights

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02:17:19,890 --> 02:17:21,480
no names no one

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02:17:29,969 --> 02:17:32,969
I'm so proud of everyone who is
organizing no agenda meetups

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every single show day when I get
the list from Mimi I just It

2321
02:17:36,539 --> 02:17:39,419
brings a smile to my face
because it shows me that people

2322
02:17:39,419 --> 02:17:43,019
are going way beyond just
listening to the show they are

2323
02:17:43,019 --> 02:17:47,219
getting together they are
enjoying each other's company is

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02:17:47,219 --> 02:17:50,909
a big nation no agenda nation or
for some of you get mo nation

2325
02:17:51,299 --> 02:17:54,809
and by getting to know people in
your local community you are

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02:17:54,809 --> 02:17:57,179
actually doing a service to
yourself and your community

2327
02:17:57,179 --> 02:18:00,629
because as you know connection
is protection. And in the

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02:18:00,629 --> 02:18:03,989
Netherlands they spent two days
connecting and protecting up in

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02:18:03,989 --> 02:18:08,129
the rice freeze lounge with all
kinds of activities over 30

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02:18:08,129 --> 02:18:11,819
people and as usual for the
Netherlands there stone and send

2331
02:18:11,819 --> 02:18:13,559
us a meet up report Special
Agent

2332
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:17,160
Unknown: steel Johnson report
India Tango three three Mike,

2333
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:20,160
they have a weird obsession with
goats. I'm expecting one to be

2334
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:24,330
slaughtered later, it figured
out Obama's day this problem

2335
02:18:24,570 --> 02:18:28,350
You're all eating meat co2
emissions through the roof. They

2336
02:18:28,350 --> 02:18:31,560
keep calling me Mr. spook I
can't figure out why.

2337
02:18:32,129 --> 02:18:36,719
According to Mandor I'm not just
still trying to find out why the

2338
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:38,579
Norwegian and Beagle was wasn't
a quiz

2339
02:18:38,610 --> 02:18:42,030
night or doing some sort of cult
leg dance ritual was unlike

2340
02:18:42,030 --> 02:18:47,040
anything we've ever seen. I saw
their easy three wrestling their

2341
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:51,810
throws from the roots day to
their eating some kind of tree

2342
02:18:51,810 --> 02:18:54,660
bark resin and talking about
trolls. I'm pretty sure it's a

2343
02:18:54,660 --> 02:18:57,120
ritual or drugs and a report

2344
02:18:59,610 --> 02:19:04,110
Adam Curry: like a Dutch Dukes
of Hazzard somehow. Here's our

2345
02:19:04,110 --> 02:19:05,730
Lincoln's meet up Report.
Welcome to

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02:19:05,730 --> 02:19:07,950
Unknown: the Denver meet up at
Lincoln's Roadhouse.

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02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:10,710
This is Sir our Peter
reconditioning

2348
02:19:10,710 --> 02:19:13,800
happy to be out here. Here's my
bitcoin brother

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02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:19,080
a quarry. Just send a shout out
to all you people out there by

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02:19:19,290 --> 02:19:20,850
Sir Scott stay in dry.

2351
02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:23,730
This is Dennis I heard this
place was so cool. I had to come

2352
02:19:23,730 --> 02:19:26,670
all the way out from Wisconsin,
Jim from Denver in the morning

2353
02:19:26,670 --> 02:19:29,550
sir soothsayer here happy to
report the surprise beer is not

2354
02:19:29,550 --> 02:19:32,640
Bud Light. And we are out.
Thanks, everybody. No, thank

2355
02:19:32,639 --> 02:19:34,379
Adam Curry: you. And when you
have a meet up today,

2356
02:19:34,379 --> 02:19:37,949
Charlotte's first annual golfing
meetup kicked off this morning

2357
02:19:37,979 --> 02:19:40,619
and that is at the Charlotte
North Carolina tradition golf

2358
02:19:40,619 --> 02:19:44,879
club and then the flying saucer
drought dropped Imperium. So I

2359
02:19:44,879 --> 02:19:47,129
guess they're having a good
time. We'll find out hopefully

2360
02:19:47,129 --> 02:19:50,579
with a media report. Also the
33rd annual net for humanity

2361
02:19:50,579 --> 02:19:55,049
takes place today it's underway
at Duckworth grill and Taphouse

2362
02:19:55,469 --> 02:19:59,399
and Charlotte, North Carolina
the tribal summer September

2363
02:19:59,399 --> 02:20:02,939
summary review mirror meetup
also underway in Indianapolis.

2364
02:20:02,939 --> 02:20:06,419
You know the indie people are
all crazy blind our brewery and

2365
02:20:06,419 --> 02:20:10,019
the two hot Tucson meetup will
kick off this Thursday next show

2366
02:20:10,019 --> 02:20:14,309
day at four o'clock at canyons
crown in Tucson, Arizona. Oh,

2367
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:18,029
that is Dane Beth who was
organizing and the sandy brigade

2368
02:20:18,029 --> 02:20:21,329
Third Thursday five o'clock
Idaho meet up at Selkirk Abby

2369
02:20:21,329 --> 02:20:24,899
post Idaho's fault and do not
miss the thirsty Third Thursday

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02:20:24,899 --> 02:20:27,389
meet up seven o'clock at Ed's
Tavern in Charlotte, North

2371
02:20:27,389 --> 02:20:30,239
Carolina. And finally on my list
until our next show day which is

2372
02:20:30,239 --> 02:20:33,809
Thursday on the 21st Totally not
a drug cartel or spoke meet

2373
02:20:33,809 --> 02:20:37,199
spooked meet up no not at all
Rosarito Beach Hotel in

2374
02:20:37,199 --> 02:20:40,559
Rosarito, Mexico, and that is
Sir Brian of London who was

2375
02:20:40,559 --> 02:20:45,239
hosting that he's he's one of
those guys who he's from Israel.

2376
02:20:45,659 --> 02:20:49,019
But somehow he's got a gig and
he helps people sail the yachts

2377
02:20:49,019 --> 02:20:53,399
around the world. And they're
sailing yachts catamarans and so

2378
02:20:53,399 --> 02:20:53,789
we saw

2379
02:20:53,790 --> 02:20:55,890
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I knew a
guy they used to do that.

2380
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,500
Adam Curry: Well now you know
two of them. Sir Brian London is

2381
02:20:58,500 --> 02:21:02,250
my guest. So he's and he's a fun
guy. So if you are anywhere near

2382
02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:06,390
Rosarito, Mexico, go to the
Rosarita Beach Hotel on

2383
02:21:06,390 --> 02:21:10,380
September 21. And remember, no
agenda meetups no agenda meet

2384
02:21:10,380 --> 02:21:14,430
ups.com It's very easy to find
out where there is a meetup near

2385
02:21:14,430 --> 02:21:18,180
you if there isn't one start one
yourself. Always guaranteed a

2386
02:21:18,180 --> 02:21:18,720
party

2387
02:21:19,350 --> 02:21:28,770
Unknown: sometimes you go hang
out with Dyson days you won't be

2388
02:21:31,530 --> 02:21:38,490
you say is like a party

2389
02:21:42,870 --> 02:21:46,140
Adam Curry: as usual, around
this time we look for and of

2390
02:21:46,140 --> 02:21:51,960
show ISOs which is another
another fine segment we already

2391
02:21:51,960 --> 02:21:55,110
got. I have three actually. I
don't know if they're those I

2392
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:56,490
only have one here's my first
one.

2393
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:58,950
Unknown: I know this. I don't
even know that

2394
02:22:01,950 --> 02:22:03,990
Adam Curry: there's this one.
No, I'm not a poor baby. I'm

2395
02:22:03,990 --> 02:22:08,640
more reptilian. Mamadi audio is
too bad. Who is that? That's

2396
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:11,370
Pelosi saying she's a reptilian.
Oh, she

2397
02:22:11,370 --> 02:22:12,120
John C Dvorak: is reptilian?

2398
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:13,920
Adam Curry: Did you hear that
whole clip that she says she's a

2399
02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:17,880
reptilian? Listen to this. You
know,

2400
02:22:17,880 --> 02:22:19,260
John C Dvorak: of course she's
gonna say that. But

2401
02:22:19,260 --> 02:22:20,310
Unknown: what baby? Yeah,

2402
02:22:20,310 --> 02:22:24,300
John C Dvorak: she's really,
really committed. No, I'm not a

2403
02:22:24,300 --> 02:22:29,610
poor baby. I'm more reptilian
will win the election, we're

2404
02:22:29,610 --> 02:22:30,180
gonna take a short

2405
02:22:30,180 --> 02:22:31,710
Adam Curry: break. And when
people tell you what they are,

2406
02:22:31,710 --> 02:22:34,350
you might as well believe them.
So but that's not a good idea.

2407
02:22:34,350 --> 02:22:35,400
So maybe this one. I

2408
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:38,430
Unknown: also got the robes and
the leather and the rubber.

2409
02:22:43,260 --> 02:22:46,020
John C Dvorak: I only have one
answer, but it is a show Ender.

2410
02:22:46,140 --> 02:22:48,570
Adam Curry: It's a better Okay,
here we go. I tell you what,

2411
02:22:48,690 --> 02:22:52,620
we're great. Yep, that's the
one. No doubt about it. It's a

2412
02:22:52,620 --> 02:22:57,150
winner. It's a winner. Great.
It's a winner. It's a winner. I

2413
02:22:57,150 --> 02:23:00,720
want to do something. There's
this clip that I found from

2414
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:04,500
Africa today because it's
obviously nearing the end of the

2415
02:23:04,500 --> 02:23:08,940
show. So might as well bring in
Africa for a moment. And it

2416
02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:12,000
reminded me of something that
that we've made just want to

2417
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:16,020
talk about briefly. This is
about Mali, Niger and Burkina

2418
02:23:16,020 --> 02:23:16,470
Faso,

2419
02:23:16,530 --> 02:23:19,560
Unknown: the military leaders of
Mali, Burkina Faso and nee che

2420
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:23,340
have signed a mutual defense
pact that binds the signatories

2421
02:23:23,340 --> 02:23:27,510
to assist one another, including
militarily in the event of an

2422
02:23:27,510 --> 02:23:31,050
attack on any one of them.
ministerial delegations from the

2423
02:23:31,050 --> 02:23:34,530
three silent countries announced
this in Mali's capital Bamako on

2424
02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:39,480
Saturday, Labor Party contract
that contract parties undertake

2425
02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:44,340
to combat all forms of terrorism
and organized crime. Common area

2426
02:23:44,670 --> 02:23:50,100
lines are less bas cama de la
cosa Dilip Takko Guma charter.

2427
02:23:50,490 --> 02:23:55,170
The pact establishes the
alliance of sales states. Yes,

2428
02:23:55,710 --> 02:23:59,220
Dilip Takko Guma region where
the Mali Burkina Faso amnesia

2429
02:23:59,220 --> 02:24:03,300
borders meet has been ravaged by
jihadism in recent years.

2430
02:24:04,740 --> 02:24:08,220
Everything starts with security.
The heads of states must also

2431
02:24:08,220 --> 02:24:11,880
think about economic issues, and
how to bring different countries

2432
02:24:11,880 --> 02:24:15,570
closer together and out to
facilitate trade between our

2433
02:24:15,570 --> 02:24:19,320
different populations. This
issues will be added to the

2434
02:24:19,320 --> 02:24:23,040
charter in the coming days from
a webinar. All three countries

2435
02:24:23,040 --> 02:24:27,210
have undergone coos since 2020,
most recently in Asia, West

2436
02:24:27,210 --> 02:24:30,690
African bloc, ECOWAS threatens
to intervene militarily, but

2437
02:24:30,690 --> 02:24:33,690
Mali and Burkina Faso quickly
responded by offering their

2438
02:24:33,690 --> 02:24:35,490
military support to niching.

2439
02:24:36,690 --> 02:24:40,680
Adam Curry: So what this
reminded me while of was it

2440
02:24:40,680 --> 02:24:43,740
because these these African
countries who've all had coos,

2441
02:24:44,190 --> 02:24:52,710
which is no coincidence, kind of
how World War One started with

2442
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:56,850
the Conference of Berlin and I
don't know if I'm not really I'm

2443
02:24:56,850 --> 02:24:59,220
only just learning about this
because for some reason, this

2444
02:24:59,220 --> 02:25:02,790
was never in my head. Three
book. But the Conference of

2445
02:25:02,790 --> 02:25:08,850
Berlin was, was at the, like
1890. And all these, these

2446
02:25:08,850 --> 02:25:13,200
European countries got together
and said, hey, it's time to

2447
02:25:13,470 --> 02:25:18,450
divvy up Africa. And most
famously, King Leopold of

2448
02:25:18,450 --> 02:25:21,390
Belgium took over the whole
Congo and wiped everybody out

2449
02:25:21,390 --> 02:25:25,290
and wound up kind of winning
with all the valuable minerals

2450
02:25:25,290 --> 02:25:28,500
and resources. But, you know,
the all these, you know, the

2451
02:25:28,530 --> 02:25:32,700
Italians, the Dutch, the French,
the British, everybody had a

2452
02:25:32,700 --> 02:25:37,950
piece of, of Africa and this,
this Berlin conferences where

2453
02:25:37,950 --> 02:25:42,780
they, this really where they all
agreed to this to this division.

2454
02:25:43,050 --> 02:25:46,800
And I think the way I'm starting
to understand it now is that

2455
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:51,420
Germany felt gypped they didn't
get they didn't get what they

2456
02:25:51,420 --> 02:25:54,240
should have. And that is, you
know, of course, with the shot

2457
02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:59,820
that was heard around the world
with the fair did on being shot,

2458
02:25:59,940 --> 02:26:03,000
that that kicked off World War
One, World War Two, I think

2459
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:05,460
there's an argument to be made
that there was a lot of Africa

2460
02:26:05,460 --> 02:26:08,670
shenanigans involved in that as
well. And now I'm just thinking,

2461
02:26:08,910 --> 02:26:13,020
are we not focusing on the wrong
thing? You know, Ukraine,

2462
02:26:13,860 --> 02:26:17,520
although that may be where,
where we have the actual

2463
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:22,620
fighting, starting, but in a
way, aren't we seeing all these

2464
02:26:22,620 --> 02:26:26,820
countries going into Africa
again, and trying to divvy it

2465
02:26:26,820 --> 02:26:30,630
up? But Africa? Maybe this time
pushing back with these types of

2466
02:26:32,430 --> 02:26:37,200
agreements amongst the three
code states? Does this ring true

2467
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:44,370
in any of your history?
Knowledge, John? No. Nothing at

2468
02:26:44,370 --> 02:26:46,050
all. The Berlin conference, none
of that?

2469
02:26:46,410 --> 02:26:48,660
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, I
know about all these things, but

2470
02:26:48,660 --> 02:26:51,630
I don't think that's the I think
what's going on today, if

2471
02:26:51,660 --> 02:26:56,130
Ukraine has anything to do with
it, it's as a conduit for moving

2472
02:26:56,160 --> 02:27:01,260
arms and ammunition to Africa.
Okay. Yes. As opposed to being

2473
02:27:01,290 --> 02:27:02,160
anything else.

2474
02:27:02,190 --> 02:27:04,740
Adam Curry: I guess what I'm
saying more is that, that Africa

2475
02:27:04,740 --> 02:27:08,070
has always been the resources of
Africa. There's always there's

2476
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:11,370
too much goodies down there.
That's always been a source gold

2477
02:27:11,370 --> 02:27:15,090
diamonds, all kinds of rare
earths everything. Right. So

2478
02:27:15,090 --> 02:27:18,180
it's copper. It's always been US
uranium. It's always been a

2479
02:27:18,180 --> 02:27:22,620
source of argument amongst the
conquering nations mainly of

2480
02:27:22,620 --> 02:27:23,160
Europe.

2481
02:27:26,370 --> 02:27:28,590
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, they
the way they see it, you have a

2482
02:27:28,590 --> 02:27:35,880
bunch of dummies in Africa, who
are just not qualified to

2483
02:27:35,880 --> 02:27:40,110
compete with the your, your
smart Europeans. Yes. And you so

2484
02:27:40,110 --> 02:27:42,330
you just take their stuff is a
bunch of

2485
02:27:42,359 --> 02:27:44,699
Adam Curry: bullies. Right. And
I think that now that African

2486
02:27:44,699 --> 02:27:45,239
they don't even

2487
02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:48,000
John C Dvorak: share with the
Africans, and they may think

2488
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:52,500
African kids do all the work.
Yes. I think yeah, no, it's

2489
02:27:52,500 --> 02:27:53,040
pathetic.

2490
02:27:53,070 --> 02:27:54,840
Adam Curry: I think this is kind
of what's happening to Africans

2491
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:57,360
have internet, like, Hey, hold
on a second.

2492
02:27:57,869 --> 02:28:00,629
John C Dvorak: Dutch, you know
that actually, now you're

2493
02:28:00,629 --> 02:28:02,489
talking? Yeah, that's a
possibility.

2494
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:04,350
Adam Curry: The they have
something like,

2495
02:28:04,500 --> 02:28:06,180
John C Dvorak: they get the
phone, they get that little

2496
02:28:06,180 --> 02:28:08,100
phone carry around. And

2497
02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:12,840
Adam Curry: yeah, has 94%
penetration of 5g. I mean,

2498
02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:17,250
they're rockin and rollin down
there. Now, I'm thinking that,

2499
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:20,310
you know, especially Mali,
Burkina Faso, Niger, we're like,

2500
02:28:20,310 --> 02:28:23,190
Hey, we got internet. Yeah,
we've been emailing you for

2501
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:27,600
years. And now we're sick of
you. Stop coming here and taking

2502
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:32,340
our goodies. Just felt I'm gonna
just trick I'm gonna stay on

2503
02:28:32,340 --> 02:28:35,850
this. I'm gonna see if I can
find some more evidence of the

2504
02:28:35,850 --> 02:28:39,420
second half a show. Oh, you
don't really show a favor.

2505
02:28:39,450 --> 02:28:43,050
You're racist. You just hate
black people and African. I

2506
02:28:43,050 --> 02:28:49,890
John C Dvorak: love the black
people, the black people. So I

2507
02:28:49,890 --> 02:28:52,500
have one last clip the
blockchain couple clips if you

2508
02:28:52,500 --> 02:28:56,430
want. We got some 20 I got to
play the, you know, I was trying

2509
02:28:56,430 --> 02:29:00,930
to get the Biden stuff to Biden,
Maryland speeches, just a gem of

2510
02:29:01,590 --> 02:29:06,780
gaffes, yelling and screaming.
He's coming close. But yeah, but

2511
02:29:06,780 --> 02:29:09,300
he didn't jack them up enough.
But there's still good stuff in

2512
02:29:09,300 --> 02:29:12,060
there. I just couldn't edit it
together. And then I got

2513
02:29:12,060 --> 02:29:15,870
distracted by another edit job.
I tried to do it. They have

2514
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:22,020
Naomi Klein. It was on Democracy
Now. moaning and groaning she

2515
02:29:22,020 --> 02:29:24,990
has a new book called
doppelganger. It's about Naomi

2516
02:29:24,990 --> 02:29:29,430
Wolf. Yeah, it's about Naomi
Wolf being getting in or you

2517
02:29:29,430 --> 02:29:34,890
know, in a strike zone and
causing trouble. And I started

2518
02:29:34,890 --> 02:29:38,880
trying to edit some pieces from
it, and they ended up with Naomi

2519
02:29:38,880 --> 02:29:42,960
Klein, it can barely get away.
She's worse than Musk when it

2520
02:29:42,960 --> 02:29:51,120
comes to our AI and ai ai. And
so I couldn't do that. I was I'd

2521
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:54,750
be there all day. So I but I do
have one little sub clip of

2522
02:29:54,750 --> 02:29:58,860
Biden, because this is only
because he yelled this out and

2523
02:29:58,860 --> 02:30:00,960
it's just one of these things
that Golf. I mean, I'll tell you

2524
02:30:00,960 --> 02:30:01,950
why after we play it

2525
02:30:01,980 --> 02:30:04,140
Unknown: for shores Community
College. Thanks for welcoming us

2526
02:30:04,140 --> 02:30:08,040
here today. As many of you know,
my wife is a professor at a

2527
02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:09,000
community college.

2528
02:30:11,700 --> 02:30:13,710
John C Dvorak: All right, y'all,
but he's a professor at a

2529
02:30:13,710 --> 02:30:18,750
community college. You're not a
professor in high school,

2530
02:30:18,750 --> 02:30:26,220
either. No. And by the ways that
now that you mentioned it or

2531
02:30:26,220 --> 02:30:29,580
not, I mentioned it. Why is she
working at all? Who are we

2532
02:30:29,580 --> 02:30:33,630
kidding with this? Yes. Oh,
yeah. She still works. She's

2533
02:30:33,660 --> 02:30:36,720
going to the community college
to give her speeches. I forget

2534
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:38,400
what she's teaching anymore.

2535
02:30:38,610 --> 02:30:43,050
Adam Curry: Oh, please. No, I I
think that you know, this.

2536
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:46,260
You're waiting for the speech
where Biden gets all jacked up

2537
02:30:46,260 --> 02:30:47,550
and says something weird,

2538
02:30:47,910 --> 02:30:51,060
John C Dvorak: massively jacked
up. Not? No, no. Well,

2539
02:30:51,780 --> 02:30:53,550
Adam Curry: I think it's coming.
No,

2540
02:30:53,550 --> 02:30:56,580
John C Dvorak: he says it's
coming. But it was a speech

2541
02:30:56,610 --> 02:30:59,220
Adam Curry: I got. Yes, he said,
and I know where it's going to

2542
02:30:59,220 --> 02:31:02,310
happen. Here is the teaser. The
United

2543
02:31:02,310 --> 02:31:04,920
Unknown: Nations General
Assembly holds its 78th annual

2544
02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:08,010
session the week of September
18. leaders from around the

2545
02:31:08,010 --> 02:31:10,770
world descending upon New York
for what's expected to be the

2546
02:31:10,770 --> 02:31:14,910
most interesting un GA since
before the pandemic, with the

2547
02:31:14,910 --> 02:31:18,420
focus on Russia's invasion of
Ukraine, Shadow diplomacy with

2548
02:31:18,420 --> 02:31:22,440
Iran and the increasingly tense
geostrategic divide between the

2549
02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:25,560
US and China. General debate
begins on Tuesday.

2550
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:27,930
Adam Curry: All right, well,
this is where they're gonna jack

2551
02:31:27,930 --> 02:31:29,760
him up. And he's gonna

2552
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:33,240
John C Dvorak: be right. Yeah,
he's gonna lie. No, it's good.

2553
02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:37,290
He said in his last speech in
Maryland, where he was the half

2554
02:31:37,290 --> 02:31:43,470
jacked half. He says he's got a
big speech coming up. That's the

2555
02:31:43,470 --> 02:31:47,100
one. And but he never said where
or what? And so this data would

2556
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:52,320
be great. That's the place to do
it. Jack him up to the max. And

2557
02:31:52,320 --> 02:31:53,880
let him go. See what happens.

2558
02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:57,180
Adam Curry: You know, he's so
full of Ukraine. Maybe I got

2559
02:31:57,180 --> 02:32:00,540
that son of a man out something.
It would be great if he did

2560
02:32:00,540 --> 02:32:06,030
something like that. There. Wow.
I can't wait. I can't wait. We

2561
02:32:06,270 --> 02:32:09,960
this story has been out since
two weeks and we haven't talked

2562
02:32:09,960 --> 02:32:12,930
about it. I just like to play
this briefly. Well, briefly this

2563
02:32:12,930 --> 02:32:16,320
Unknown: morning, new details
about how hackers breached some

2564
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:20,250
of the most recognizable hotels
on the Las Vegas Strip. In one

2565
02:32:20,250 --> 02:32:22,620
case, in just 10 minutes, they

2566
02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:27,390
figured out who worked at MGM
and decided to call into the IT

2567
02:32:27,390 --> 02:32:30,570
Helpdesk and pretend that they
were one of the existing

2568
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:31,350
employees.

2569
02:32:31,470 --> 02:32:34,740
ABC News has learned a Russian
hacking network provided the

2570
02:32:34,740 --> 02:32:38,250
ransom were used to a group
known as scattered spider.

2571
02:32:38,340 --> 02:32:42,540
Reportedly based in the US and
Europe. MGM property computers,

2572
02:32:42,570 --> 02:32:46,830
including at the Bellagio and
MGM Grand went down Tuesday,

2573
02:32:46,980 --> 02:32:50,940
resulting in days of long check
in lines and casino machines off

2574
02:32:50,940 --> 02:32:55,050
line with reports of IOUs given
out to winners

2575
02:32:55,080 --> 02:32:58,890
check in procedure is kind of
messy a lot of long lines.

2576
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:02,760
gamblings really messy. It's not
as fun when you have to wait.

2577
02:33:03,150 --> 02:33:06,330
The Financial Times reports the
hackers originally tried to

2578
02:33:06,330 --> 02:33:09,810
manipulate the slot machine
software, unsuccessful, they

2579
02:33:09,810 --> 02:33:12,690
then hack the resort systems in
exchange for money,

2580
02:33:12,720 --> 02:33:14,880
there's a good chance that
they're going to get paid

2581
02:33:14,880 --> 02:33:17,190
because they need to get those
operations back up and running

2582
02:33:17,190 --> 02:33:19,530
as soon as possible. They're
losing tremendous amounts of

2583
02:33:19,530 --> 02:33:19,980
money.

2584
02:33:20,189 --> 02:33:23,909
MGM says it is operational and
working diligently while

2585
02:33:23,909 --> 02:33:27,149
addressing individual guests
needs promptly. days earlier.

2586
02:33:27,149 --> 02:33:31,259
Hackers targeted Caesars Palace
compromising the hotel's loyalty

2587
02:33:31,259 --> 02:33:34,799
program data, including Social
Security and driver's license

2588
02:33:34,799 --> 02:33:39,989
numbers. Caesars paid the ransom
reportedly $15 million scattered

2589
02:33:39,989 --> 02:33:43,229
spider claims that access six
terabytes of data from both

2590
02:33:43,229 --> 02:33:48,029
Caesars and MGM experts warn all
big corporations are at risk for

2591
02:33:48,029 --> 02:33:51,419
similar hacks unless employees
are properly trained.

2592
02:33:51,449 --> 02:33:54,809
These were the IT professionals
that were fooled. These were the

2593
02:33:54,809 --> 02:33:57,539
this was the IT Helpdesk they've
alluded that this was an

2594
02:33:57,539 --> 02:34:01,349
outsourced vendor. But
nevertheless, it's always

2595
02:34:01,349 --> 02:34:04,409
education. It's never letting
your guard down.

2596
02:34:05,130 --> 02:34:08,580
Caesars is now offering identity
theft, protection and credit

2597
02:34:08,580 --> 02:34:12,240
monitoring services for those
affected and at MGM, it wasn't

2598
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:16,230
just Las Vegas hotels affected
other properties nationwide were

2599
02:34:16,230 --> 02:34:17,130
also hit.

2600
02:34:17,580 --> 02:34:21,090
Adam Curry: So interesting that
the word not used here is

2601
02:34:21,090 --> 02:34:25,470
ransomware even though that's
exactly what it was. We have

2602
02:34:25,470 --> 02:34:29,850
boots on the ground, which I
will read. Indeed the breach

2603
02:34:29,850 --> 02:34:32,790
originated from the help desk
with credentials likely obtained

2604
02:34:32,790 --> 02:34:36,210
through phishing or social
engineering. Despite this being

2605
02:34:36,210 --> 02:34:39,480
preventable through methods like
two factor authentication, no

2606
02:34:39,480 --> 02:34:42,900
such measures measures were in
place. This started at the

2607
02:34:42,900 --> 02:34:46,080
corporate level. See that's a
little different from the report

2608
02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:48,660
that says oh, it started with
the with the slot machines. Now

2609
02:34:48,660 --> 02:34:52,050
let's start at the corporate
level made its way to all MGM

2610
02:34:52,050 --> 02:34:56,760
properties. Even those in Macau,
including in Vegas, Arya,

2611
02:34:56,760 --> 02:35:03,060
Bellagio, New York, New York
Cosmo Mandalay Bay MGM Park MGM

2612
02:35:03,060 --> 02:35:07,860
The list goes on. Upon
discovering the hack, which I

2613
02:35:07,860 --> 02:35:10,830
would say it was ransomware. MGM
took their systems offline

2614
02:35:10,830 --> 02:35:14,700
voluntarily. Hackers are
demanding over $100 million in

2615
02:35:14,700 --> 02:35:18,600
ransom. And of course, we didn't
even hear about the Caesars

2616
02:35:18,600 --> 02:35:23,280
incident. And Caesars reportedly
paid $30 million in ransom, and

2617
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:27,000
managed to keep it under wraps
until now. According to our

2618
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:29,880
boots on the ground, it's a
shitshow I'm currently working

2619
02:35:29,880 --> 02:35:32,160
on a project with corporate it
will be at least two weeks

2620
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:37,710
before email was even restored.
And I love that it was first

2621
02:35:37,710 --> 02:35:41,550
China when this first came out
was China. And that now it's the

2622
02:35:41,550 --> 02:35:47,370
Russian group scattered spider.
Scattered spider scattered

2623
02:35:47,370 --> 02:35:51,060
spider who comes up with these
names. I don't know but these

2624
02:35:51,060 --> 02:35:51,360
guys

2625
02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:54,330
John C Dvorak: are making bank.
Yeah, and I'm surprised they

2626
02:35:54,330 --> 02:35:56,370
didn't go after those casinos
earlier.

2627
02:35:57,180 --> 02:36:00,630
Adam Curry: Well, they did.
Yeah, they went after I

2628
02:36:00,630 --> 02:36:04,020
John C Dvorak: mean earlier like
years ago, who knows? I mean,

2629
02:36:04,020 --> 02:36:07,620
this is true because the Caesars
thing was kept quiet. So as

2630
02:36:07,620 --> 02:36:10,080
possible it's like bankers you
know, they were Oh, we got

2631
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:14,280
hacked. We lost the dollars
money don't say anything. And

2632
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:18,210
then they hide it in their
financials with under some bogus

2633
02:36:18,330 --> 02:36:23,250
yo, line item. Wow.

2634
02:36:23,279 --> 02:36:30,719
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. He's no
good. See, I have a debt. Oh,

2635
02:36:30,719 --> 02:36:35,309
yes. Oh, this wasn't this was
kind of important. Even though

2636
02:36:35,369 --> 02:36:39,059
the the Mexican aliens are off
the news desk that's done

2637
02:36:39,089 --> 02:36:44,459
because I don't think anyone was
fooled by that. But NASA did

2638
02:36:44,459 --> 02:36:51,749
come out as as as expected they
downplayed any UAPs UFOs. But

2639
02:36:51,749 --> 02:36:53,819
the important news got out NASA

2640
02:36:53,820 --> 02:36:56,670
Unknown: has released a highly
anticipated report on UFOs.

2641
02:36:56,670 --> 02:37:00,810
After a year long, independent
study and believers may be

2642
02:37:00,810 --> 02:37:04,650
disappointed. Scientists found
no evidence that any of the UFO

2643
02:37:04,650 --> 02:37:07,530
is documented had
extraterrestrial origins. But

2644
02:37:07,530 --> 02:37:10,860
looking forward, NASA has now
appointed a UFO research

2645
02:37:10,860 --> 02:37:14,010
director saying further study
will require new scientific

2646
02:37:14,010 --> 02:37:17,340
techniques like artificial
intelligence. Yeah, satellites.

2647
02:37:18,030 --> 02:37:21,480
Adam Curry: Out there. Advance
that more money more money for

2648
02:37:21,480 --> 02:37:25,800
NASA. Yeah, we need advanced
satellites. So we need Yeah, we

2649
02:37:25,800 --> 02:37:28,230
need that more money send us
more money is very dangerous.

2650
02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:31,110
Very dangerous. It could happen
could be real. We need we need

2651
02:37:31,110 --> 02:37:40,710
satellites. We need stuff.
Speaking of speaking of AI, this

2652
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:45,990
was a very weird report from
France. 24. I see if I can find

2653
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:54,270
this. But it kind of made sense
in the whole AI. Gambit. Let me

2654
02:37:54,270 --> 02:38:03,150
see. This is where it was this
now. It was Yes, here it is AI

2655
02:38:03,150 --> 02:38:07,170
regulation in Europe. Because of
course not just Chuck Schumer is

2656
02:38:07,170 --> 02:38:10,440
on this. But we heard Ursula
Queen Ursula talking about it.

2657
02:38:10,770 --> 02:38:13,950
But listen to this report.
Because not everyone is on

2658
02:38:13,950 --> 02:38:18,780
board. And it seems like they've
this may even give us a clue as

2659
02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:21,240
to what they're really trying to
do with AI.

2660
02:38:21,270 --> 02:38:23,760
Unknown: Now the European Union
is wasting no time to try and

2661
02:38:23,760 --> 02:38:26,790
regulate it. Absolutely. They're
well ahead. And we're now in try

2662
02:38:26,790 --> 02:38:30,300
logs for the AI act. So that's
the EU institutions hammering

2663
02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:33,750
out the details. And one
sticking point at the moment is

2664
02:38:33,750 --> 02:38:37,170
this idea of an a human rights
impact assessment that was put

2665
02:38:37,170 --> 02:38:40,110
forward by the European Human
Rights impact assessment. So the

2666
02:38:40,110 --> 02:38:44,850
idea is that those who deploy
high risk AI will have to fill a

2667
02:38:44,880 --> 02:38:48,840
impact assessment, saying what
risks their systems could have

2668
02:38:48,840 --> 02:38:52,680
to human rights. Now, the
campaign group of ours that

2669
02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:55,200
helped develop this proposal
saying it's necessary because of

2670
02:38:55,200 --> 02:38:58,350
cases like in the Netherlands,
where the police used AI to

2671
02:38:58,350 --> 02:39:02,160
profile children. And this led
to over 800 of them, of them

2672
02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:04,920
being wrongly wrongly registered
on their systems and even some

2673
02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:08,220
of them being taken to child
protection services. So a vos

2674
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:11,220
says it's crucial, but says that
actually France is one of the

2675
02:39:11,220 --> 02:39:14,190
country's spearheading the
charge against these impact

2676
02:39:14,190 --> 02:39:17,250
assessments. Now the French
government hasn't responded to

2677
02:39:17,250 --> 02:39:20,940
this concern. What I can say is
over the in the UK, they're

2678
02:39:20,940 --> 02:39:23,370
taking a very different
approach. All eyes are on this

2679
02:39:23,370 --> 02:39:26,640
November summit at Bletchley
Park on the first and second of

2680
02:39:26,640 --> 02:39:30,150
November. Politico's written
that Rishi Sunak has done a bit

2681
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:34,710
of an About turn from extolling
the economic promise of AI to

2682
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:38,220
really being worried that it
could destroy us all. They say

2683
02:39:38,220 --> 02:39:41,160
he's been seduced by Silicon
Valley funded thinking tankers

2684
02:39:41,160 --> 02:39:43,560
who are kind of obsessed with
the idea of long term

2685
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:46,740
existential risks. This is
certainly what Elon Musk is

2686
02:39:46,770 --> 02:39:49,350
worried about. And he of course,
signed that letter six months

2687
02:39:49,350 --> 02:39:52,350
ago, calling for a pause in AI.
Now the people that wrote that

2688
02:39:52,350 --> 02:39:55,230
letter, the future of Life
Institute, are saying, well, we

2689
02:39:55,230 --> 02:39:57,870
shouldn't be talking about risks
now and risks in the future. We

2690
02:39:57,870 --> 02:40:01,050
should look at it more like
climate change. It's a set of

2691
02:40:01,710 --> 02:40:04,230
new technology and it's a set of
risks that could do great harm

2692
02:40:04,230 --> 02:40:07,170
in the future but are already
already doing a lot of harm now,

2693
02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:12,090
Adam Curry: that would make
sense. make everyone believe and

2694
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:16,620
Elon Musk is right up front.
That AI is just like climate

2695
02:40:16,620 --> 02:40:22,140
change and open the floodgates
of money go we have to do so

2696
02:40:22,140 --> 02:40:26,760
much to mitigate the dangers of
AI it's just like climate change

2697
02:40:26,820 --> 02:40:31,710
and you can even combine the two
I think that may be what these

2698
02:40:31,710 --> 02:40:35,490
guys are gunning for. Let's make
it just like climate change.

2699
02:40:35,490 --> 02:40:37,740
Yeah, why should we let all
those douchebags get all the

2700
02:40:37,740 --> 02:40:38,730
money? Yeah,

2701
02:40:39,570 --> 02:40:42,810
John C Dvorak: yeah, those guys
haven't done anything. Yeah, to

2702
02:40:42,810 --> 02:40:46,710
douchebags there's just this
climate thing. Just wheel

2703
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:48,150
spinning let's do something new

2704
02:40:48,180 --> 02:40:50,940
Adam Curry: Yeah, well let's
let's get some of that sweet

2705
02:40:50,940 --> 02:40:52,290
sweet climate cash

2706
02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:57,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you might
be onto something there and you

2707
02:40:57,540 --> 02:41:01,230
know they're gonna rap I finally
got this kind of an interesting

2708
02:41:01,230 --> 02:41:06,540
clip. This is the the Whittemore
case is finally wrapping up

2709
02:41:07,140 --> 02:41:07,830
Adam Curry: oops.

2710
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:12,810
John C Dvorak: Not SDI was more
scheme ends is finally ended in

2711
02:41:12,810 --> 02:41:16,380
just a few people got I don't
know I did. The whole thing was

2712
02:41:16,380 --> 02:41:19,080
a front for an FBI sting and
there was

2713
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:21,120
Adam Curry: a house was a hoax

2714
02:41:21,180 --> 02:41:24,360
Unknown: in Michigan. A jury
today acquitted three men and

2715
02:41:24,360 --> 02:41:27,840
connection to Governor Gretchen
Whitmer is kidnapping plot. This

2716
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:31,230
likely concludes the trial of
the kidnapping attempt that took

2717
02:41:31,230 --> 02:41:34,800
place in October 2020. Eric
Molitor, William Knoll and

2718
02:41:34,800 --> 02:41:38,910
Michael Knowles were each found
not guilty. Prosecutors allege

2719
02:41:38,910 --> 02:41:41,760
the men conducted surveillance
of the governor's vacation

2720
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:45,300
cottage in the whole case.
Ultimately, nine men were

2721
02:41:45,300 --> 02:41:48,780
convicted or pleaded guilty in
the case and five were

2722
02:41:48,780 --> 02:41:52,380
acquitted. Authorities have said
the men were planning to kidnap

2723
02:41:52,380 --> 02:41:55,680
the governor from her vacation
home, but they were arrested

2724
02:41:55,680 --> 02:41:59,700
first. Some of the defendants
said that FBI undercover agents

2725
02:41:59,700 --> 02:42:02,190
coerce them to drive the plot
forward.

2726
02:42:02,789 --> 02:42:05,549
Adam Curry: Yeah, finally,
although

2727
02:42:05,759 --> 02:42:08,279
John C Dvorak: inconclusive,
years later, this thing took

2728
02:42:08,279 --> 02:42:09,749
forever to resolve. Well,

2729
02:42:09,750 --> 02:42:11,730
Adam Curry: of course, we can't
have anyone actually hearing

2730
02:42:11,730 --> 02:42:14,820
about this news because then it
would show the FBI has a cycle

2731
02:42:14,820 --> 02:42:22,980
and they do and they did this to
incriminate Trump voters. And

2732
02:42:22,980 --> 02:42:28,170
that in their white supremacist
and they're horrible people and

2733
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:31,920
Whitmore was trying to raise her
profile by this phony baloney

2734
02:42:31,920 --> 02:42:34,830
kidnapping scandal. And now it
just has to fizzle out in the

2735
02:42:34,830 --> 02:42:38,820
mainstream can't can't really
admit it as they do it. And now

2736
02:42:38,850 --> 02:42:41,430
they fell for it. They fell for
it hook line and sinker as

2737
02:42:41,430 --> 02:42:42,240
usual.

2738
02:42:44,490 --> 02:42:48,060
John C Dvorak: They fell for jet
Jesse smol. Let's cock and bull

2739
02:42:48,060 --> 02:42:52,020
story. Yeah, it was three in the
morning. It was freezing out and

2740
02:42:52,020 --> 02:42:55,560
so Maga guys with the Magga hats
came out with a noose.

2741
02:42:56,280 --> 02:42:58,170
Adam Curry: Yeah, and
eventually, maybe three, four

2742
02:42:58,170 --> 02:43:01,650
years from now we'll hear about
January 6 being phony. Laura

2743
02:43:01,650 --> 02:43:05,610
Logan, by the way, coming out
with a documentary I think it

2744
02:43:05,610 --> 02:43:08,910
out already. I think maybe it
will maybe next Thursday, about

2745
02:43:08,910 --> 02:43:09,960
January 6.

2746
02:43:11,010 --> 02:43:12,420
John C Dvorak: So what does she
conclude?

2747
02:43:12,990 --> 02:43:16,650
Adam Curry: Oh, there was all
this. She? She did. I sat

2748
02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:20,130
through almost half of an
interview she did with Stu

2749
02:43:20,130 --> 02:43:22,710
Peters. Oh, this guy

2750
02:43:23,250 --> 02:43:25,740
John C Dvorak: depths to Peters
is a good one.

2751
02:43:27,870 --> 02:43:31,320
Adam Curry: She was interesting.
She said, Oh, no. Ray Epps was

2752
02:43:31,320 --> 02:43:35,880
not FBI says Oh, no. Every
single agency had shills in that

2753
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:44,220
in that it did J six she says
Defense, Homeland Security. She

2754
02:43:44,220 --> 02:43:47,670
has like eight different
agencies who said that all had

2755
02:43:48,000 --> 02:43:53,190
shills walking around trying to
get the I have to watch the

2756
02:43:53,190 --> 02:43:56,970
documentary but it sounds like
she's saying that that this was

2757
02:43:56,970 --> 02:44:01,170
so coordinated that everybody
was in on it. And she's she's a

2758
02:44:01,170 --> 02:44:03,690
pretty good journalist. So yeah,
she

2759
02:44:03,690 --> 02:44:06,660
John C Dvorak: is. And it makes
sense because you know, Nancy

2760
02:44:06,660 --> 02:44:09,750
Pelosi refused to bring the
troops in and there's the whole

2761
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:13,110
thing was a scam. Yeah, but it's
a good talking point for the

2762
02:44:13,110 --> 02:44:15,300
Democrats. January 6,

2763
02:44:15,390 --> 02:44:20,460
Adam Curry: yeah, but let's do
Peters. Really. That guy have

2764
02:44:20,460 --> 02:44:22,410
creeped me out. I don't know
what is about him.

2765
02:44:23,250 --> 02:44:25,950
John C Dvorak: I haven't seen
his stuff for at least two or

2766
02:44:25,950 --> 02:44:26,700
three years.

2767
02:44:26,760 --> 02:44:29,160
Adam Curry: Oh, no, he's he's
active. He's very active. I

2768
02:44:29,940 --> 02:44:32,460
guess maybe we need to talk
about this one little thing.

2769
02:44:32,730 --> 02:44:35,160
Before we go up fair warning,

2770
02:44:36,420 --> 02:44:40,500
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR

2771
02:44:41,520 --> 02:44:42,630
or PBS,

2772
02:44:42,690 --> 02:44:45,690
the United Auto Workers are
testing their strengths with a

2773
02:44:45,690 --> 02:44:49,830
strike. And Paris Camilla domino
ski joins us. Camila. Thanks for

2774
02:44:49,830 --> 02:44:52,770
being with us. Happy to be here.
Stan. What's had been like what

2775
02:44:52,770 --> 02:44:53,460
have you seen?

2776
02:44:53,940 --> 02:44:56,970
Yeah, I mean, I talked to
executives at the Detroit Auto

2777
02:44:56,970 --> 02:45:00,360
Show. I went out and spoke to
people on picket lines. Since

2778
02:45:00,390 --> 02:45:04,710
pitch blackness, there's one
image from this week. I'll never

2779
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:07,500
forget. There were two events
right next to each other in

2780
02:45:07,500 --> 02:45:11,310
downtown Detroit last night. One
was a big UAW rally. Bernie

2781
02:45:11,310 --> 02:45:15,240
Sanders spoke huge emphasis on
the vast and growing gulf

2782
02:45:15,240 --> 02:45:19,080
between the haves and the have
nots in America. And then,

2783
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:23,760
literally next door, Scott,
there was a glitzy charity event

2784
02:45:23,790 --> 02:45:28,440
at the Auto Show $400 ahead for
a ticket people dressed to the

2785
02:45:28,440 --> 02:45:31,890
nines and floor length gowns
with drinks walking around the

2786
02:45:31,890 --> 02:45:36,240
cars, and right outside red t
shirt and people in the streets

2787
02:45:36,240 --> 02:45:39,570
with with picket signs, just
separated by some glass and

2788
02:45:39,660 --> 02:45:41,070
mounted police officers.

2789
02:45:42,510 --> 02:45:43,710
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
fascinating.

2790
02:45:43,740 --> 02:45:47,130
Adam Curry: Bernie Sanders got
no play on that that he was out

2791
02:45:47,130 --> 02:45:48,240
there. I didn't see I have

2792
02:45:48,240 --> 02:45:50,460
John C Dvorak: a clip. I have a
UAW clip too. We should probably

2793
02:45:50,460 --> 02:45:55,320
talk at least one minute about
this before we leave. Sure. You

2794
02:45:55,320 --> 02:45:56,370
want to make sure

2795
02:45:56,520 --> 02:45:59,550
Unknown: the first ever strike
against Detroit three largest

2796
02:45:59,550 --> 02:46:03,150
automakers at the same time is
taking place right now.

2797
02:46:03,300 --> 02:46:07,110
President Joe Biden today siding
with the union and a strike that

2798
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:10,740
could affect the nation's
economy. NTDs Aryan Power Star

2799
02:46:10,770 --> 02:46:11,970
has the details.

2800
02:46:17,250 --> 02:46:21,330
The United Auto Workers or UAW
started the first ever

2801
02:46:21,330 --> 02:46:24,510
simultaneous strike against
Detroit's three largest

2802
02:46:24,510 --> 02:46:27,780
automakers on Friday. The
union's President made the

2803
02:46:27,780 --> 02:46:30,360
announcement shortly before
midnight, which is when the

2804
02:46:30,360 --> 02:46:34,650
contracts between automakers and
workers expired. For the first

2805
02:46:34,650 --> 02:46:38,910
time in our history. We will
strike all three of the big

2806
02:46:38,910 --> 02:46:42,360
three at once. We are using a
new strategy,

2807
02:46:42,690 --> 02:46:44,100
the stand up strike,

2808
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:48,450
the Union wants 40% pay raises
to compensate for soaring

2809
02:46:48,450 --> 02:46:52,140
inflation. automakers, which
include General Motors, Ford and

2810
02:46:52,200 --> 02:46:56,760
the Lantis offered up to 20%
phased in over several years,

2811
02:46:56,970 --> 02:47:00,930
the union declined. President
Biden on Friday siding with the

2812
02:47:00,930 --> 02:47:01,500
union.

2813
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:06,690
auto companies have see record
profits, including the last few

2814
02:47:06,690 --> 02:47:10,590
years because of extraordinary
skill and sacrifices the UAW

2815
02:47:10,590 --> 02:47:14,370
workers, but those record
profits have not been shared

2816
02:47:14,370 --> 02:47:18,030
fairly, in my view, with those
workers record corporate

2817
02:47:18,030 --> 02:47:22,110
profits, which they have, should
be shared by record contracts

2818
02:47:22,110 --> 02:47:23,070
for the UAW,

2819
02:47:23,310 --> 02:47:26,940
Biden sent two of his top aides
to Detroit to get involved in

2820
02:47:26,940 --> 02:47:30,900
the negotiations. The President
and CEO of the US Chamber of

2821
02:47:30,900 --> 02:47:34,710
Commerce said in a statement on
Friday that the UAW strike, and

2822
02:47:34,710 --> 02:47:38,460
indeed the summer of strikes, is
the natural result of the Biden

2823
02:47:38,460 --> 02:47:41,340
administration's whole of
government approach to promoting

2824
02:47:41,340 --> 02:47:45,480
unionization at all costs. A
long strike threatens to spread

2825
02:47:45,480 --> 02:47:49,740
economic turmoil. General Motors
CEO Mary Barra says the strike

2826
02:47:49,770 --> 02:47:52,680
could harm employees, their
families and even the US

2827
02:47:52,680 --> 02:47:55,920
economy, saying for every
General Motors job, there are

2828
02:47:55,920 --> 02:48:00,780
six other jobs in the economy
that depend on us running. So

2829
02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:06,840
Adam Curry: I've heard both
sides of this. And I think the

2830
02:48:06,840 --> 02:48:11,940
UA the workers make a valid
point like hey, man, 2008 2009

2831
02:48:11,940 --> 02:48:15,750
We, we gave you all this stuff.
And we didn't take you know, we

2832
02:48:15,750 --> 02:48:20,220
helped in the great recession.
And then we want it back in and

2833
02:48:20,280 --> 02:48:24,480
you know, our jobs used to be
good, bad and union jobs that

2834
02:48:25,200 --> 02:48:28,530
now we can't even get by because
of inflation, which I'm sure is

2835
02:48:28,530 --> 02:48:33,330
true. They've got a valid point.
Then on the other side, it's all

2836
02:48:33,330 --> 02:48:36,870
political unions are the most
political organizations we have

2837
02:48:36,870 --> 02:48:40,590
probably in the United States
and I think they're, they may be

2838
02:48:40,590 --> 02:48:44,490
out to this may be a ploy to
also bring down Biden.

2839
02:48:45,000 --> 02:48:47,100
John C Dvorak: I think it's a
ploy to bring down Biden.

2840
02:48:47,519 --> 02:48:50,399
Adam Curry: You want to hear NBC
actually, I think they they

2841
02:48:50,399 --> 02:48:52,499
solidify that point is short
report.

2842
02:48:52,529 --> 02:48:54,929
Unknown: And there is a lot of
political fallout from this

2843
02:48:54,929 --> 02:48:58,319
unprecedented strike. We just
heard from President Biden with

2844
02:48:58,319 --> 02:49:02,339
his eye on 2024. He's trying to
walk a fine line between

2845
02:49:02,339 --> 02:49:05,129
supporting the workers and
limiting the impact on the

2846
02:49:05,129 --> 02:49:07,889
economy. Kelly O'Donnell is at
the White House with more

2847
02:49:08,580 --> 02:49:13,200
with an auto strike politics
always has a seat at the table

2848
02:49:13,230 --> 02:49:16,650
should please stay at the table.
As long as you can to try to

2849
02:49:17,250 --> 02:49:18,150
work this out.

2850
02:49:18,150 --> 02:49:21,900
President Biden caught squarely
in the cross currents backing

2851
02:49:21,900 --> 02:49:24,990
unions is in the DNA of his
political brand.

2852
02:49:25,019 --> 02:49:28,019
I'm proud to be the most pro
union president and most pro

2853
02:49:28,019 --> 02:49:30,869
union president. I'd be the most
pro union president American

2854
02:49:30,869 --> 02:49:31,259
history

2855
02:49:31,320 --> 02:49:35,010
today saying strong unions are
good for the economy.

2856
02:49:35,070 --> 02:49:38,160
Auto Workers helped create
America's middle class. They

2857
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:42,450
deserve a contract that sustains
them in the middle class.

2858
02:49:42,810 --> 02:49:47,130
But his climate agenda also puts
him behind the wheel of electric

2859
02:49:47,130 --> 02:49:51,030
vehicles, touting American
automakers investment to move

2860
02:49:51,030 --> 02:49:52,830
away from fossil fuels.

2861
02:49:53,099 --> 02:49:56,909
Kelly also looming over all this
as the UAW is endorsement.

2862
02:49:57,720 --> 02:50:00,360
A labor endorsement the
president wants very much much,

2863
02:50:00,630 --> 02:50:04,530
but has not yet secured so he
has a stake in this to the White

2864
02:50:04,530 --> 02:50:07,290
House says he wants a good
outcome for everyone. While he

2865
02:50:07,290 --> 02:50:10,260
was clear today, Lester, that
workers deserve more when

2866
02:50:10,260 --> 02:50:12,150
carmakers profits have gone up.

2867
02:50:12,810 --> 02:50:17,160
Adam Curry: Yeah. It seems to be
hitting Joe. Right, right. Where

2868
02:50:17,160 --> 02:50:19,590
his right where it counts for
him?

2869
02:50:20,160 --> 02:50:22,620
John C Dvorak: Well, what's
gonna happen if this strike goes

2870
02:50:22,620 --> 02:50:27,660
more than two weeks? It's going
to affect it's going to create a

2871
02:50:27,690 --> 02:50:31,650
mini recession that's going to
be blamed on Biden

2872
02:50:31,740 --> 02:50:37,440
Adam Curry: a mini recession.
What are we now? What are we

2873
02:50:37,500 --> 02:50:39,690
John C Dvorak: not in
technically a recession at all.

2874
02:50:39,870 --> 02:50:41,160
But whatever the case is

2875
02:50:42,600 --> 02:50:46,350
Adam Curry: discussed, isn't two
negative quarters, technically

2876
02:50:46,350 --> 02:50:47,010
recession.

2877
02:50:47,850 --> 02:50:49,980
John C Dvorak: We don't have two
negative quarters. As far as I

2878
02:50:49,980 --> 02:50:50,280
know,

2879
02:50:50,310 --> 02:50:51,750
Adam Curry: I thought we had
them. We already had two

2880
02:50:51,750 --> 02:50:54,690
negative quarters a couple of
quarters ago, maybe okay, it's

2881
02:50:54,690 --> 02:50:55,320
no longer that

2882
02:50:56,430 --> 02:50:59,760
John C Dvorak: whatever the case
is going to be noticeable.

2883
02:51:00,630 --> 02:51:04,980
Because these recessions have
not necessarily been noticeable.

2884
02:51:06,630 --> 02:51:09,690
Gas prices, everything that
people are bitching and moaning

2885
02:51:09,690 --> 02:51:14,580
about the price of chicken. Beef
is overpriced. I have to say

2886
02:51:15,960 --> 02:51:20,430
that to me was 650 a pound at
Costco of all places for Chuck.

2887
02:51:21,660 --> 02:51:24,630
Chuck is too expensive. It
should not be seven bucks a

2888
02:51:24,630 --> 02:51:28,620
pound. But anyway, the point is,
is that this is gonna get blamed

2889
02:51:28,620 --> 02:51:31,200
on Biden because he hasn't done
anything about inflation and

2890
02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:35,190
he's just got to spend more
money this is being targeted.

2891
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:37,140
They don't want him running
again. And he got to do

2892
02:51:37,140 --> 02:51:39,060
something about it. They're
going to try pull everything

2893
02:51:39,060 --> 02:51:43,110
out. I mean, half the Democrats
do want him again, because well,

2894
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:46,170
he beat he beat Trump for square

2895
02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:48,810
Adam Curry: is their their
conundrum is they don't want

2896
02:51:48,810 --> 02:51:52,320
camera, that'll be the worst
thing they can think of. So they

2897
02:51:52,320 --> 02:51:53,310
don't want to kill him.

2898
02:51:55,170 --> 02:51:57,510
John C Dvorak: No, they don't
want to kill him. They don't

2899
02:51:57,510 --> 02:52:01,410
want cows. They gotta just have
him reason. So I think the best

2900
02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:05,640
bet is the fight is the is the
impeachment bet. Create enough

2901
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:09,300
of this of the evidence, bring
it out there and get get his

2902
02:52:09,300 --> 02:52:13,200
party people like wouldn't have
done with Nixon. Yeah. To take

2903
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:16,980
him aside and say, Look, this is
good. This is a distraction.

2904
02:52:17,220 --> 02:52:21,090
This is not good for the party.
There's too much going on here.

2905
02:52:21,150 --> 02:52:24,090
You're gonna get yourself in
trouble. This is you know, we

2906
02:52:24,090 --> 02:52:26,520
don't need this aggravation. We
don't even want you to be

2907
02:52:26,520 --> 02:52:31,620
impeached resign, which is what
they did to Nixon Democrat or

2908
02:52:31,620 --> 02:52:34,260
me. Sorry, the Republicans did
that to Nixon. They took him

2909
02:52:34,260 --> 02:52:36,480
aside and told him to resign.
And he did.

2910
02:52:37,440 --> 02:52:41,370
Adam Curry: Yeah. But he's so
nuts. Well, they gotta Jack him

2911
02:52:41,370 --> 02:52:44,820
up. He's got to make a big faux
pas now it's gotta be apparent

2912
02:52:44,940 --> 02:52:45,270
even

2913
02:52:45,450 --> 02:52:48,540
John C Dvorak: came up. Oh, man.
I'm just yeah, if you Jack him

2914
02:52:48,540 --> 02:52:51,720
up and let him loose with a
press conference. That could be

2915
02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:53,310
a real issue.

2916
02:52:53,580 --> 02:52:55,740
Adam Curry: It would be great
for the show, because he's

2917
02:52:55,740 --> 02:52:58,050
John C Dvorak: poking at people
calling them Jack.

2918
02:52:59,280 --> 02:53:06,270
Adam Curry: Hey, Jack, I'm all
jacked up. Ukraine. What Hunter?

2919
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:09,540
Bo is dead, something like that.

2920
02:53:09,570 --> 02:53:12,210
John C Dvorak: So after they
boot him out, they really don't

2921
02:53:12,210 --> 02:53:15,030
have any other choices like like
the reporter said in that

2922
02:53:15,030 --> 02:53:19,650
earlier clip. It's gotta be
Gavin Newsom who is really

2923
02:53:19,650 --> 02:53:25,380
unlikable nationally, I mean,
California has you know, we get

2924
02:53:25,380 --> 02:53:28,470
rigged election so he gets an
easy enough. If you want to play

2925
02:53:28,470 --> 02:53:32,670
one last step. I do have the
clip about the family this is

2926
02:53:32,670 --> 02:53:35,100
you have to look this one up,
but I've been keeping it around.

2927
02:53:35,160 --> 02:53:39,000
Okay. It's about the California
political families that run

2928
02:53:39,030 --> 02:53:45,900
everything. And it is. The four
is looking though.

2929
02:53:46,830 --> 02:53:49,380
Adam Curry: We've played this,
haven't we? But it was

2930
02:53:49,380 --> 02:53:50,640
John C Dvorak: years ago. Yeah,

2931
02:53:50,670 --> 02:53:55,050
Adam Curry: it's good. I haven't
I haven't haven't listened is

2932
02:53:55,050 --> 02:53:57,450
the no agenda show, baby. We got
it on tap.

2933
02:53:57,540 --> 02:54:02,040
Unknown: Pat Brown's father.
Admin Joseph Brown, was known

2934
02:54:02,040 --> 02:54:06,120
for running scams and gambling
operations in San Francisco.

2935
02:54:07,530 --> 02:54:11,340
With the help of businessman
William Newsom, the second, Pat

2936
02:54:11,340 --> 02:54:16,080
Brown became governor of
California for two terms. During

2937
02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:20,310
his governorship, he awarded the
Squaw Valley concession contract

2938
02:54:20,370 --> 02:54:26,070
to William Newsom, the third and
his partner John Pelosi. The

2939
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:29,760
deal was criticized for the
state of California paying for

2940
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:34,530
everything and getting nothing.
William Newsom, the third grew

2941
02:54:34,530 --> 02:54:38,430
up with the governor son Jerry,
who was training to be a Jesuit

2942
02:54:38,430 --> 02:54:44,670
priest. John Pelosi son Paul
married Nancy DLs Sondra,

2943
02:54:45,120 --> 02:54:49,290
daughter of Thomas D Alessandro,
Jr. who is known for smuggling

2944
02:54:49,290 --> 02:54:53,610
heroin into the US with Lucky
Luciano in the Baltimore mafia.

2945
02:54:54,840 --> 02:54:58,710
John Pelosi son Ron married
William Newsom, his daughter

2946
02:54:58,710 --> 02:55:04,440
Barbara Over ongoing disputes
about the Squaw Valley

2947
02:55:04,440 --> 02:55:09,240
concession William Newsom senior
threatened to hurt the governor

2948
02:55:09,240 --> 02:55:12,930
politically, just as Governor
Brown was running for a third

2949
02:55:12,930 --> 02:55:20,370
term against Ronald Reagan. He
lost. But eight years later, the

2950
02:55:20,370 --> 02:55:24,600
former governors Jesuit son
Jerry reclaims the governorship

2951
02:55:24,630 --> 02:55:30,660
in 1974. He appointed William
Newsom The third to a place or

2952
02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:36,900
county judge ship in 1975. And
three years later, to the state

2953
02:55:36,900 --> 02:55:41,910
court of appeal. William Newsom
was an attorney for oil magnate

2954
02:55:41,910 --> 02:55:46,380
Jay Paul Getty, named in the
1966 Guinness Book of World

2955
02:55:46,380 --> 02:55:51,000
Records as the world's richest
private citizen. And while

2956
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:55,140
serving on the appellate bench
in the 1980s, he helped get his

2957
02:55:55,140 --> 02:55:59,850
son Gordon, secure a change in
state trust law that allowed him

2958
02:55:59,850 --> 02:56:04,320
to claim his share of a multi
hair trust. After Newsom retired

2959
02:56:04,320 --> 02:56:08,070
from the bench, he became
administrator of the Getty trust

2960
02:56:08,610 --> 02:56:12,930
and providing seed money for his
son Gavin Newsom. Nancy Pelosi,

2961
02:56:12,930 --> 02:56:17,010
his nephew just start the
plumpjack business that led to a

2962
02:56:17,010 --> 02:56:21,180
career in San Francisco
politics. As mayor of San

2963
02:56:21,180 --> 02:56:24,540
Francisco, and Lieutenant
Governor of the State of

2964
02:56:24,540 --> 02:56:29,850
California. Gavin Newsom was
informally adopted by the Gettys

2965
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:35,490
after His parents divorced and
recently succeeded family friend

2966
02:56:35,490 --> 02:56:40,980
Jerry Brown, to be the current
governor of California. For 80

2967
02:56:40,980 --> 02:56:44,310
years, these four families have
ruled over the state of

2968
02:56:44,310 --> 02:56:45,930
California politically,

2969
02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:48,150
Adam Curry: it's called our
democracy

2970
02:56:49,019 --> 02:56:52,349
John C Dvorak: at work that's
what it's called Democracy at

2971
02:56:52,349 --> 02:56:53,309
Work as right

2972
02:56:53,310 --> 02:56:55,950
Adam Curry: and the bushes you
know, they don't rule California

2973
02:56:55,950 --> 02:56:59,640
where they unsuccessfully tried
to get Ken Paxton out because

2974
02:56:59,640 --> 02:57:04,140
George P Bush was all upset.
It's these cartels of families

2975
02:57:04,140 --> 02:57:08,310
and let's throw the carries in
there. Let's throw Mitt Romney

2976
02:57:08,310 --> 02:57:11,940
in there Kennedys the Kennedys
let's throw them all in there

2977
02:57:12,060 --> 02:57:15,330
with this is what we need to
wake up to in America and I'm

2978
02:57:15,330 --> 02:57:18,180
sure the same happens in every
in every other country in

2979
02:57:18,180 --> 02:57:21,120
John C Dvorak: the world. Yeah.
Democracy

2980
02:57:21,150 --> 02:57:23,190
Adam Curry: democracy that's
right everybody. That's your

2981
02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:30,480
democracy at work okay. We
should start every show off with

2982
02:57:30,480 --> 02:57:31,950
that clip just to remind us

2983
02:57:32,130 --> 02:57:35,130
John C Dvorak: that's a great
clip and it's good all right

2984
02:57:35,130 --> 02:57:35,670
everybody that

2985
02:57:35,670 --> 02:57:36,990
Adam Curry: is our
deconstruction now you

2986
02:57:36,990 --> 02:57:39,630
understand the world is very
small, just a small bunch of

2987
02:57:39,630 --> 02:57:42,660
douchebags not that hard to
understand. We just get

2988
02:57:42,660 --> 02:57:47,490
distracted by you know, by all
kinds of stuff. But not you you

2989
02:57:47,490 --> 02:57:52,080
belong to get mo nation no
agenda nation knows better. You

2990
02:57:52,080 --> 02:57:57,090
know the truth. And you got it
with a smile. And we have end of

2991
02:57:57,090 --> 02:58:01,020
show mixes coming up from DS
laughs doctor I insert TJ the

2992
02:58:01,020 --> 02:58:07,890
raffle and J dog. And right
after the show. Live oh no

2993
02:58:07,890 --> 02:58:12,840
agenda stream we have a rare
encounter. Featuring cold acid

2994
02:58:12,840 --> 02:58:16,560
and Abel Kirby. Make sure you
stay tuned for that coming to

2995
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:18,840
you from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here and FEMA

2996
02:58:18,840 --> 02:58:21,780
Region number six. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

2997
02:58:21,780 --> 02:58:22,200
curry,

2998
02:58:22,290 --> 02:58:25,770
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain

2999
02:58:25,770 --> 02:58:26,940
I'm John C. Dvorak.

3000
02:58:27,090 --> 02:58:32,190
Adam Curry: We're getting ready
for that jacked up Joe. until

3001
02:58:32,190 --> 02:58:36,000
Thursday, when we return
remember us at devora.org/na

3002
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:39,870
support the show send some value
back until then adios mofos, a

3003
02:58:39,870 --> 02:58:41,790
hui Hui, and

3004
02:58:47,040 --> 02:58:49,590
Unknown: a cbdc. As you know,
share this with your friends,

3005
02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:51,510
neighbors and colleagues, you
got to wake people up. It is a

3006
02:58:51,510 --> 02:58:55,140
totalitarian system of total
control, tracking and tracing.

3007
02:58:55,170 --> 02:58:57,420
And if they don't like your
politics, or your speech or your

3008
02:58:57,420 --> 02:59:00,270
viewpoint, they don't like here,
if they don't like the fact that

3009
02:59:00,270 --> 02:59:03,660
you have a automobile powered by
gas and you refuse to turn it

3010
02:59:03,660 --> 02:59:06,840
in, they'll just turn you off,
they'll turn off your chip,

3011
02:59:06,840 --> 02:59:09,990
they'll turn off your system and
turn off the CBBC they will cut

3012
02:59:09,990 --> 02:59:13,380
you out of the system. So to
that degree, it really is

3013
02:59:13,680 --> 02:59:14,280
biblical.

3014
02:59:14,550 --> 02:59:18,540
It's the beast system no man
shall buy or sell without taking

3015
02:59:18,540 --> 02:59:18,870
the bar.

3016
02:59:19,740 --> 02:59:23,580
I said when children are left to
the devices, but what do parents

3017
02:59:23,580 --> 02:59:27,450
do? Except give them more to
fight the fear for democracy

3018
02:59:27,450 --> 02:59:31,080
more than ever, so private that
the information is confidential

3019
02:59:31,080 --> 02:59:34,920
outside of searches of infection
who's to blame under vaccinated

3020
02:59:34,920 --> 02:59:39,900
but not under vaccinated? I've
even had geo located data track

3021
02:59:39,900 --> 02:59:43,680
and trace not informed citizens
run in place they can't be paid

3022
02:59:44,070 --> 02:59:47,850
150 An hour during the pandemic.
We'll start by making money on

3023
02:59:47,850 --> 02:59:51,720
zoom from afar towel guard, like
a therapist tell you the secret

3024
02:59:51,720 --> 02:59:55,170
to a stranger sad, the bad guy
returned in every room and you

3025
02:59:55,170 --> 03:00:01,560
were danger. Tell your secrets
to a stranger. What else? Do I

3026
03:00:01,560 --> 03:00:06,000
says the Lone Ranger? Shout out
to that guy returning in every

3027
03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:07,470
permit to what danger

3028
03:00:10,380 --> 03:00:13,800
Adam Curry: it's so utopian is
fantastic. We're gonna build

3029
03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:17,490
walkable neighborhoods and new
paths to home to home ownership,

3030
03:00:18,660 --> 03:00:23,460
downpayment assistance programs
and other solutions. These guys

3031
03:00:23,460 --> 03:00:30,180
are there saints just to set
everybody in the right tone,

3032
03:00:30,390 --> 03:00:33,990
mass do not stop you from
getting or spreading flu cold or

3033
03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:39,150
COVID. COVID is not a killer
virus. Pam RNA is not a vaccine.

3034
03:00:39,150 --> 03:00:42,570
It's an experimental gene
tinkering thing. There are only

3035
03:00:42,570 --> 03:00:45,900
men and women to spirit and non
binary are not genders.

3036
03:00:46,050 --> 03:00:50,010
Librarians used to be hot, not
ugly with green hair. There is

3037
03:00:50,010 --> 03:00:55,020
no LGBTQ community. There's no
black community. The world is

3038
03:00:55,020 --> 03:00:58,380
not overpopulated. There's no
structural wage difference

3039
03:00:58,380 --> 03:01:01,770
between men and women in the
workplace. All politics is

3040
03:01:01,770 --> 03:01:05,520
theater. The US president is not
the king the emperor or your

3041
03:01:05,520 --> 03:01:07,980
daddy who's going to save you if
you want to speak to your real

3042
03:01:07,980 --> 03:01:11,250
father talk to God. All
advertising based media is

3043
03:01:11,250 --> 03:01:14,850
dishonest at best unlikely
propaganda and climate change

3044
03:01:14,850 --> 03:01:17,730
initiatives are a huge money
making global scam

3045
03:01:19,380 --> 03:01:28,320
Unknown: Taco Bell branded me
Don't talk about brand Dan. It

3046
03:01:28,320 --> 03:01:33,780
was election time. economy was
booming. Andrew was in a cloud

3047
03:01:34,050 --> 03:01:34,860
sky

3048
03:01:35,400 --> 03:01:36,930
doubt in the sky

3049
03:01:38,160 --> 03:01:46,740
scam begin science you Dynastar
your My sorry my son go random

3050
03:01:46,740 --> 03:01:48,180
to six feet up.

3051
03:01:48,840 --> 03:01:50,070
That's what they tell you.

3052
03:01:50,789 --> 03:01:55,439
wear a mask alone in your car.
That's freaking crazy. No

3053
03:01:55,439 --> 03:01:58,199
question what the experts say is

3054
03:01:58,200 --> 03:02:00,210
get back to you slaves.

3055
03:02:00,660 --> 03:02:06,360
We don't talk we don't talk

3056
03:02:09,540 --> 03:02:13,530
obvious to see when it's done. I
can always hear muttering a

3057
03:02:13,530 --> 03:02:17,490
mumbling I associated with the
sound goal you know this you

3058
03:02:17,490 --> 03:02:20,550
know the thing she takes heavy
snips of the kid to the

3059
03:02:20,550 --> 03:02:23,460
frightening always also was
supposed to be speaking

3060
03:02:23,460 --> 03:02:26,400
grappling with words that no one
understands

3061
03:02:26,430 --> 03:02:30,570
not a joke think about a four
year term creep

3062
03:02:30,570 --> 03:02:33,810
sewn house last a build bag

3063
03:02:39,270 --> 03:02:43,980
sow was from this Best Buy

3064
03:02:51,900 --> 03:02:52,380
two

3065
03:02:52,440 --> 03:02:57,840
years they say it's for your
health. What have we got to show

3066
03:02:57,960 --> 03:03:05,070
Pfizer's got the wealth.
Economies crap. You can bank if

3067
03:03:05,070 --> 03:03:10,110
this is normal now. We're gonna
need some serious help. But who

3068
03:03:10,110 --> 03:03:14,160
gets save us? I don't know,
buddy, but I'm really scared.

3069
03:03:14,370 --> 03:03:17,250
Could the government help pay?
Yeah, they could just print up

3070
03:03:17,250 --> 03:03:17,610
some more

3071
03:03:17,610 --> 03:03:19,680
money. Isn't that inflation?

3072
03:03:19,830 --> 03:03:21,300
That's just paper.

3073
03:03:22,230 --> 03:03:23,250
Thanks Brandon.

3074
03:03:23,790 --> 03:03:25,500
You want to six feet in

3075
03:03:25,500 --> 03:03:32,160
the ground? Not what they tell.
Mascot up in your card freaking

3076
03:03:32,160 --> 03:03:36,930
crazy triple jab right in your
arm. How are they still

3077
03:03:36,960 --> 03:03:37,710
positive

3078
03:03:44,640 --> 03:04:08,640
ground shower bag yourself. Li
Li Oh Taco Bell brand and I

3079
03:04:08,640 --> 03:04:09,120
agree.

3080
03:04:17,850 --> 03:04:18,510
Adam Curry: MoPhO

3081
03:04:18,540 --> 03:04:21,600
Unknown: boruch.org/and

3082
03:04:23,700 --> 03:04:25,260
I tell you what, we're great.