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Unknown: Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee
Mee Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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Adam Curry: remember 1220 23
This your award winning

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combination media assassination
episode 1707

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Unknown: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Papi is in place and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the Texas Hill Country.
Number six in the morning,

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everybody, I'm Adam curry from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we all say Happy

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Veterans Day to the veterans.
I'm Jhansi Dvorak. Greg

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Adam Curry: Hill indeed we do.
There's a lot of veterans in our

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no agenda nation producing
audience. Yes. A lot. And I want

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to thank every single one of
them. Young men and women many

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scarred from crazy ass crap
they've witnessed so

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John C Dvorak: yes, we will
likely they report some of it

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in. Yes.

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Adam Curry: But having been just
to Iraq for 10 days and 2003

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seeing the scarring, it's not
pretty. Are you wearing your

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puppy?

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John C Dvorak: You know, those
days are over in California, it

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seems even though it's the puppy
state.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, the Chinese
got all the puppies now. That's

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what's happening there. Man. Oh,
man. Oh, man. There's some

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interesting things happening. I
think we should start with the

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new bull crap of the week. Which
I'm not quite sure why they

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released this on Saturday.

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John C Dvorak: There's new bull
crap.

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Adam Curry: This is new bull
crap of the week. Yes. Yes. This

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was an L

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John C Dvorak: by the way. I
want to mention, Oh, speaking

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Adam Curry: of bull crap in
advance. Yes.

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John C Dvorak: I'm going to do a
three by three today. But more

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importantly, I'm beginning and
we need a jingle for this. Oh,

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the good news of the week that
you specifically requested. I

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requested

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Adam Curry: it. Yes, I did show
it shall we start with the three

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by threes since we typically I
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John C Dvorak: we can do the
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by three is is quite funny.
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Unknown: three by three.
Experiment by Jesse.

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Comparing sto reefer ABCs

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Adam Curry: everybody assigned
three JC D checks out three days

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from the end of the week, but
I'm doing the intro. Jason.

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John C Dvorak: We're done.
Jason.

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Adam Curry: I'm done. I'm done.
All right, I'm done. Yes, three

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stories from the mainstream
media from the same

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John C Dvorak: three stories
presented three slightly

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different ways. And these are
all about the war. So they're

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all designed to traumatize the
audience. Yes. Using bringing in

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some professional sound effects
guys to add different sound

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effects and I'm starting with
the lesser the award. I'm going

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to give it away the award for
the best presentation goes to

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CBS. We're going to start with
the third place finisher.

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Adam Curry: Wait Wait do we
start with CBS and we start with

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John C Dvorak: no we start with
ABC which is the third place

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finisher and ABC presents they
got the sound they got some

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crazy fun house slide sound
effect at the beginning. A lot

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of explosions. Nice. The stories
are the same. It's about

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Israelis bombing the hospitals.
And they say there's there's

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Hamas there that everyone over
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then Blinken always says stop
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Unknown: Tonight the explosions
rental in Gaza is main

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hospitals. THE MIDST those
fireballs buildings shut the

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cries from the wounded. By night
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missiles. By Date Israeli troops
in close combat going building

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to building room to room closing
their news on Northern Gaza news

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the hospital's main parking lots
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people. The hallways crammed
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the wounded lining the quarters.
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main hospital of Chifa. This
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Israel saying the explosion was
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rocket launch. Military
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Hamas has turned the hospitals
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beneath hospitals. But

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there are 1000s of patients who
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severely, who cannot be moved.

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and running. It's a matter of
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but one of our chief was top
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done. What would happen if you
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people who still remain
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to kill at least 100 patients at
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Palestinian saying the death
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strongest criticism yet by the
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war against Hamas. Far too many
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Far too many have suffered. But
Secretary of State Blinken

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acknowledges Israel has opens
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Today fleeing south on this
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designed by the Israeli military
over 150,000, fleeing in just

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the past two days, Lindsey
Israel has said that over the

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past 24 hours its forces have
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Strip, but also in the West Bank
along the Red Sea in Syria and

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in Lebanon, fighting this

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Adam Curry: you know, I would
say that what does Bruno say

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Bruno says this is a five I
think they blew it they blew

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their effects wad right at the
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John C Dvorak: agree on your
percent but the thing that was

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the kicker was Blinken.
Strongest words ever? preface it

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with the strongest words ever by
the Secretary of State and they

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cut into blink and saying to me
people killed

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Adam Curry: me people die. Oh,
strong, so strong. strongest

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ever. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: that sucked. And
that was ABC, you know, which

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comes out of Disney should have
some shows.

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Adam Curry: going down the
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people in there. It's

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John C Dvorak: not good. So
let's go to the second place

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finisher who will take the place
of the word winner if the other

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one goes down in flames. But NBC
decides to let's add some better

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explosions. As if they're there
during these explosions. And

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let's up the ante with the guy
doing the reporting and bring in

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a British voice. Yes,

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Unknown: this was the sky of a
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with Hamas. And overnight near
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City of fiable. Five hours after
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agreed to humanitarian pauses in
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close by above Al Shifa
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screams later, a second
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clinic. My mother, my father, my
brother she cries. Tonight

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Hospital was from a misfired
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terrorist organization. Israel
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command center under El Sheikh

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Adam Curry: Mohammed he did he
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Palestinian terrorist
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interesting. Let's listen
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misfired rocket from a
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organization. What

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Adam Curry: does that even mean?
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John C Dvorak: I think that
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Machado whoever the third group
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Adam Curry: They mentioned and
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John C Dvorak: make it a good
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and we've been told not to. I
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Adam Curry: to go back to the
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Unknown: Israel says Hamas has
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Al Shifa Hospital, using
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Hamas has turned hospitals into
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challenge that we are facing.
This is precisely why we're

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encouraging people to go south
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Adam Curry: extra points extra
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wants people won't allow them.
To us today with blunt criticism

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of the civilian death toll. Far
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been killed. And we want to do
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pointing to these two
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created under a continuing
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back inside Gaza. Hamas still
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Israel says any ceasefire now
after the murder of 1200

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Israelis would be a surrender to
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won't be a ceasefire without the
release of Israeli hostages. All

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right here. Let's pick up right
there. You have new reporting on

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the negotiations to free these
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stalled in the past over how
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Adam Curry: interesting that
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who's eight reporting from from
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border is Douglas Murray. He was
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with Piers Morgan. And weird
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a an on the on the scene
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John C Dvorak: That's what I
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they've decided to up the ante
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more susceptible to advertising.
It's how it works. Then your

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mind is open your property, your
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and you can be propagandized
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you want to traumatize so so CBS
has decided or they have better

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people that are in the
backgrounds. Yeah, in the

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background, they're doing a
sociology. So they said, screw

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this. Screw the male voice
altogether. We like the British

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voice. Let's bring in a female
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Adam Curry: go and do they have
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John C Dvorak: voice? And then
they said, here's the here's the

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kicker. Instead of just bombing,
I think people are kind of

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immune to phony baloney bombing.
Gunfire Bye bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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Bye. Bye. Bye, Bob. How about
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Unknown: A massive strike at the
Al Shifa hospital grounds gauzes

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largest medical facility. Israel
insists Hamas is using hospitals

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to coordinate attacks and hide
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adults shifa. 1000s of
civilians. They're one place of

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refuge of bloodsoaked
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Adam Curry: Extra points for the
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Unknown: reeling in disbelief.
This man shouts they bombed the

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hospitals. Nearby, a young girl
Breakstone trying hysterically.

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Adam Curry: brother. Oh, wow. So
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anymore. They're just giving you
they're just translating it on

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the fly. When she's acting,
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this is very good. At best it
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Unknown: Nearby, a young girl
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My mom, my father, my brother.
Inside, doctors and nurses fight

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Adam Curry: Many guests are they
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Unknown: keep the injured alive
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medical supply running out.
Today. At least five hospitals

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children. Here this video
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hospital surrounded by Israeli
military vehicles. worn down by

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wall hunger and exhaustion
civilians flee Al Shifa to, only

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to run headlong into more
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corridor is not spared the
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Adam Curry: So they've changed
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ferret any more try echoed by
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health system has reached the
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they have. And she's like, you
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John C Dvorak: great. This is
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we kind of scoff at it and laugh
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women. You've got the throat a
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Adam Curry: it's really it's his
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the term they used? some harsh
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people have been killed you can
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John C Dvorak: never there this
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trying to traumatize the on his
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not reporting now this is
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Adam Curry: This is Mind
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pharma advertising, which is
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John C Dvorak: So a lot of those

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Adam Curry: three, three he
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Adam Curry: it is your three by
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understand the clip custodian
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collector helped you out with
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John C Dvorak: does a good job
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Adam Curry: all of our clip
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someone who said much harsher
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Adam Curry: much harsher words
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expect any appeared on State of
the Union was dynamite. Or Shawn

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But is the administration right

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that Israel needs to do more to
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Adam Curry: jam on Lindy Hop
don't disappoint us now. Well, I

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conflict. One thing I want to
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engaged in genocide. And then
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Adam Curry: watch that
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John C Dvorak: Yes, why does he
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thing I want to say for sure,
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Adam Curry: and in the kicker,
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from Hamas, but the most
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live in the Gaza Strip. They've
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and hate the Jews. How do you
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and you kill six How many would
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Adam Curry: Whoa he's doing bits
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John C Dvorak: doing dick.

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Adam Curry: I mean, does he
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guy does realize how he sounds?
Let me let me see let's hear

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Unknown: To kill in hate the
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Gaza? Get 10 Jews and you kill
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Adam Curry: Nice delivery. Well
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Adam Curry: you hear that? Edit
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anybody ask these questions? You
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dropped two atomic bombs on
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Adam Curry: and that was great.
But what a great thing we did

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there. I mean, I still love that
picture of the young girl with

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her flesh burned off. Lindsay
that was great. Who

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Unknown: did anybody ask us
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realize the United States
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cities in Japan to end the war.
I think this is total war

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between Israel and Hamas. I want
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much as possible. But I want the
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radicalized population in Gaza
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decade. This will not be easy
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the Jews and kill them all and
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here's what I think 80% of the
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from the river to the sea.
That's this guy that has to

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Adam Curry: Thank you trolling
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flesh was Vietnam. Another fine
fine action that was that was

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our Agent Orange. I'm sorry.

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John C Dvorak: No, not Agent
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herbicide is napalm but

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Adam Curry: was at Maple

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John C Dvorak: product at Dow
Chemical. Yes. Which I think

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Adam Curry: is now round up. I'm
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done there. No, no, but after
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and a little bit of hey, you
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had we ended the war by dropping
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about Iran. Senator Graham, what
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Adam Curry: Oh, that resolution
this is important resolutions is

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where we all agree on saying the
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then we say it. Well, it
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front in the north against
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overwhelm Iron Dome, then we
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of Iran. In fact, I would say
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Hezbollah without without the
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Adam Curry: did he did he just
did he just flopped there? Where

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do you say without

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and not Israel? The or the
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Adam Curry: Truth wants to come
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Satan speaks what a war monger
that man is that we need to hit

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around but said it's hit Iran.
Let's just hit Iran.

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John C Dvorak: He's just a cut
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a chicken hog.

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Adam Curry: Chicken hawk. How
about chicken crap? That guy's

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no good. is no good? He's no,
no, no, good. All right. Let's

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step away from this for a
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John C Dvorak: Because we're
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Adam Curry: I despise starting
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five that will come due to it.
No, it's not too late. No,

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John C Dvorak: we already
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can't start to show over.

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Adam Curry: Well, then I shall
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see what is the one we want to
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go to Europe. And play Macron
Lopez, el presidente a loop

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president on the phones. And he
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I think was BBC. And he wanted
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was like, I gotta kind of but
you know, I was like, I gotta be

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careful what I say here,
because, you know, we don't want

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a Muslim uprising in France. And
but yet again, we don't want the

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Jews to be angry. So we got no,
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international rules that you're
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Adam Curry: Yes. The
international rules. The rules.

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Rules proportionality? Yes. Yes.
Look, look, look, I've had my

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John C Dvorak: with a French
accent. Look, look.

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Unknown: Look, look in the very
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Adam Curry: Look, come over
here. Look, these,

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Unknown: it's clear that the
motion to completion created a

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situation where everybody was
just close to his role and

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backing as and sharing the pain.
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do share the willingness to get
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tourism means in France. But I
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that Israel is guilty of
breaking international

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humanitarian law? leading the

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Adam Curry: witness? Potential?
No, I'm here. No, no, no. Luke,

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Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke,

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here? Look, I think it's not the
proper way to approach a

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Adam Curry: It's not a proper
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one month after this to always
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the right way to deal with a
partner and friend just to see

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you will be condemned and your
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opinions are bombed. The fact
effectors babies ladies is old

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Adam Curry: babies, ladies and
old people look at

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Unknown: bombed and killed
bombed service. No reason for

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that. And marriage is messy. So
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not here to I'm not a judge. I'm
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everybody international law. I
call for a ceasefire. And I will

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urge him for a ceasefire for him
anytime ceasefire.

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Adam Curry: Everybody wants this
proportionality, which would

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only prolong the the glee of the
military industrial complex.

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John C Dvorak: How come nobody
at all that I can recall, as

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asked for a ceasefire in
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Adam Curry: This is not a proper
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course, we haven't called for
that but we'll get to that in a

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moment. Because you got clips I
got what I have one more clip

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because you know who's back on
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Justice for Palestine for blind

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John C Dvorak: thought it was a
look at me Look, I mean, Lindsey

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Adam Curry: Look, no, Abby
Martin is back.

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John C Dvorak: Abby Martin is
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is nothing more than a racist

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veil that makes the dehumanizing
assertion. Oh, it's no church is

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John C Dvorak: and more
communist than ever.

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children. The more rational

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explanation is that there's no I
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Adam Curry: to say she does have
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because I was on the way back
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the clips in the car, and I
didn't even have to see the

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clips. I didn't have to see the
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John C Dvorak: does have a very
distinctive voice very

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distinctive, encourages

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Unknown: the death of its
children. The more rational

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explanation is that there's
nowhere to flee, and one of us

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most densely populated places on
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civilian location is considered
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John C Dvorak: I want to stop
this right here is one of the

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most densest places on earth.
She says. I should point out

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since I did I actually did some
research Don't tell me you

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actually did some work. I
sometimes do

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Adam Curry: I mean, wasn't a
slam on you. It was more slam on

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the M five in

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John C Dvorak: San Francisco is
four times the density. Let's

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bomb it. New York City is I
think eight times as dense

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Manhattan is eight times as
dense as as Gaza San Francisco's

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four times as dense as Gaza

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Adam Curry: and what size How
about the size? Is it the same

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size?

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John C Dvorak: No, it we were
talking about per kilometer,

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kilometer BB I'm sorry, per
hectare per acre per mile per

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square mile. Let's go with that.
I know you get to the right the

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right measurement here shortly I
like I like square mile I like

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history exact per square mile.
Manhattan and San Francisco are

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respectively eight times and
four times more dense than Gaza

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per square mile. Yeah, sorry.

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Adam Curry: You know what the
most densely populated places

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the troll the troll room.

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John C Dvorak: You know, we
should do I don't even want to

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get into Macau or some of these
other places that are extremely

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dense. But just for easy
comparison, San Francisco and

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Adam Curry: New York. All right,
well, this is for the troll

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room. nonstick

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John C Dvorak: Nope. And you
don't hear it anymore because

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it's a nonsense claim has been
debunked. However,

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Unknown: because of this
propaganda tactic. The constant

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and indiscriminate bloodshed in
Gaza isn't seen as criminal or

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deliberate. It's not seen as
criminal or deliberate by the

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jority of people. But this is a
learn tactic. Attorney human

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shield has been the Empires
favorite excuse to just the

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Empire,

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Adam Curry: the Empire empire.
What else Darth

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John C Dvorak: Vader involved in
this,

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Unknown: the term human shield
has been the Empire's favorite

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excuse to justify mass slaughter
and its wars of conquest in

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Libya, the year prior to the US
NATO bombing campaign. The human

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shield talking point was used ad
nauseam in the lead up to the

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Iraq War. The Bush
administration included the

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human shield talking point as a
main tenant of his campaign

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John C Dvorak: second do you
remember this I don't remember I

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don't talk about in the Lippia
talking point that we both

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picked up on was the was the
Viagra yes talking point

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Adam Curry: and the cap that was
it what's the name of that other

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drug the the cheap cocaine

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John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, that's
that seems to be cropping up

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again. And I don't remember the
humans shield talking point

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under any of these events except
this particular one. Worship

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getting her writers

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Adam Curry: heard. I've heard
she writes it herself. I've

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heard human shields before. That
Bush might have said it. No, it

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was just well beyond was just
check. What you will find it see

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if we have any human shields.
Oh, hold on a second. I have a

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human shield clip. I have a
human shield clip. 31 seconds.

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This is from 2022. The

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Unknown: other major story
overseas the days long siege at

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a prison where 1000s of
suspected ISIS members are being

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held ISIS fighters attacking the
facility in Syria last Thursday

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in an attempt to free the ISIS
detainees. A coalition said the

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attack has been contained after
the US called in airstrikes to

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help an American backed militia
regain control. But some

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militants are still holed up in
the section of the prison and

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they're reportedly using
hundreds of detain children as

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human shields. It's not clear
how many prisoners were able to

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escape.

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John C Dvorak: ISIS bastards.
Yes, it

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Adam Curry: was also during the
Biden administration just

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pointing it

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Unknown: out talking point was
used ad nauseam in the lead up

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to the Iraq War. The Bush
administration included the

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humans sheild talking point as a
main tenant of his campaign, I

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John C Dvorak: don't remember it
as a main tenant for show she's

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a liar lies the woman is I hate
to say it. As much as you know

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she's amusing. She's a liar.
Yes, that's what she got fired

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from our tea. She

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Adam Curry: couldn't even keep a
job there. Let's be honest about

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it.

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Unknown: Journalist robbing
Martin uncovered entire CIA

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reports dedicated to Saddam's
devaluation of life through the

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use of human shields. Bush even
preemptively tried to justify

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the enormous civilian death toll
he knew was to come with the

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invasion by declaring the former
Iraqi dictator plans to quote

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shield his military and blamed
coalition forces for civilian

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casualties that he has caused. I
guess there were a million human

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shields in Iraq

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Adam Curry: Mushies Okay, all
right. Well, that's a stretch a

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little stretch there, no
stretch. Stretch, why don't you

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just come out and say it in
fact, I

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Unknown: would say bom bom, bom
again. At least judging

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Adam Curry: means honest. She's
unhinged, but she's honest. All

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right, what you got

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John C Dvorak: on the last show,
you discuss some of the the kind

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of the front, the front
organizations that are involved

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in the protests and use that
money. And in that report, I do

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not remember you mentioning my
all time favorite, which is the

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world's Workers Party.
Socialist, some other socialist

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services Socialist Workers Party

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Adam Curry: and the No, I don't
remember

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John C Dvorak: that. Well, the
point is, is that I find I've

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got I got the clips could
isolate them. They're the guys

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who used to do remember think T
dot h dot i n k. They did all

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these they've been doing
protests as the should the

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entire length of our show 60s
What they do is what they do

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what they do, and they're a
bunch of communists. What's your

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question? Yes, because

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Adam Curry: I've seen some signs
of some of these. Some of the

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protesters which by the way are
the same LGBTQ BLM millennials?

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The new slogan is stopped
genocide Joe

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John C Dvorak: Wow, I like it.
By the way, anybody out there if

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you're going past I would like
to collect two or three of these

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signs.

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Adam Curry: Stop genocide Joe.

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John C Dvorak: I would love to
have a copy of stop genocide Joe

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if anybody can get get and help
pay for the shipping and just

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get a hold

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Adam Curry: and you have to be
wearing a cafe Cafe so he

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pronounced the cafe

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John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to pronounce pronounce it. The

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cafe where wherever one of those
pushy hats the

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Adam Curry: I just have one of
those. I mean they must be

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flipping out in Washington DC
about this genocide Joe? And by

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the way, this is like a thing I
mean, I can just walk up to you

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in a bar and say hey bro don't
genocide me bro. Now this is the

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thing people just saying is
genocide a man you don't need

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genocide me this is

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John C Dvorak: probably the I
think the genocide Joe thing was

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slipped in by the by the
intelligence agencies that want

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to get rid of Joe Biden and this
is part of their scheme right

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now genocide Joe is an OP it's

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Adam Curry: and it's sticking it
sticking it's a good one

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John C Dvorak: it's a good one
Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Well done. It's not
well

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John C Dvorak: yeah, you have to
say it when it happens Hey, go

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with protesters are Marxist part
one

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Unknown: Oh, pro Palestinian
rallies popping up on the

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streets and on college campuses
popping up as across the US

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who's behind them. NTDs cine to
cure spoke with an expert on

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Islamic terrorism as Ron Omani
to take a deep dive into the

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investigative journalist and
author Asra Nomani tells NTD

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that behind the pro Palestinian
protests in America is a

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multimillion dollar orchestrated
campaign. Muslim organizations

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that have now embedded
themselves in the West, and they

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are the ones unleashing these
protesters against Israel and

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Jews onto the streets and it's
at the campuses. What we have is

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a multimillion dollar
orchestrated campaign. And I'm

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speaking to you from the
trenches of that. Those efforts

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in the street.

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Adam Curry: Okay, all right. NTD
on the beat, all right.

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John C Dvorak: She's done that'd
be nice guy cut it. They're not

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for any particular reason. But
the fact that she is on legible

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illegible Well, I've seen on I'm
legible because illegible I

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think refers to writings
unintelligible that's the word I

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was looking for. Thank you, sir.
Yes. Anything. unintelligible

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unintelligible to to the nth
degree and so I this was I just

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ran this one through Adobe to
see if it could be fixed and it

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was kinda she's still hard to
hear but is that oh, you ran it

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through Adobe Good, good. And I
that but I ran through Adobe

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with the front end. So in other
words, I ran this entire clip

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through Adobe including the
clear part it to begin And

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because I've not done that
before, just see if like it can

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jack it up it can work at work I
wanted to see what it did to the

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part that's already good. And it
does a pretty good job of

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ignoring I

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Adam Curry: have Adobe enhanced
clip myself today. So yeah,

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John C Dvorak: let's so this is
Adobe enhance and it came out

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pretty good. Alright, so here we
go into with the with the gist

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of it.

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Unknown: No money shows NTD
posters she picked up following

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a pro Palestinian rally last
Saturday. And you get the signs

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from the river to the sea.
Palestine will be brief. But

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what was the chant that they
said in Arabic? Philistine Al

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Arabiya, which leads Palestine
is Arab, from the river to the

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seat so they have code and who
organized this one? The Islamist

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group us Palestinian community
network, one of the many

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Islamist groups that believe in
political Islam. And who had

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they aligned with that this is
what's so critical. You have to

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be the fine print, as you know,
as a journalist, then with

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Palestine and the occupation,
right, they use these the word

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who is it that sponsored that
the Party for Socialism and

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Liberation, Socialism and
Liberation? That's the far not

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and who are they? multimillion
dollar global networks that are

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trying to use the socialist our
left agenda into our nation?

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They are alone, it's bad. Look
at this one. We're going to

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break the fourth wall get
workers World Heart farm out on

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units organization.

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Adam Curry: You know, when I
hear this, and I'm thinking,

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Boy, AI is a long way from
taking over the world. It did it

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did a good job for us for sure.
Yeah. The workers world party

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man. They've been and they've
got websites. We've been reading

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their material. You're right.
Oh, yeah. Getting programs. It's

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the beginning of

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John C Dvorak: as they're the
ones who use the there's an old

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term from the web two, or
whatever it was a long tail. Oh,

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the

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Adam Curry: the long tail. We
are on tail tail.

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John C Dvorak: They use it to an
extreme. They have so many phony

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baloney with they have probably
1000 websites that all look

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strange. And they do a good
enough job of making sure they

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don't look exactly the same.
They're pretty varied. And

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they're but they're all their
their websites. And they all do

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one thing after another. And
they

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Adam Curry: probably they
probably fund Abby Martin's work

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as well. I'm sure I wouldn't

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John C Dvorak: be a bit, you
know, if it was if if they did,

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it wouldn't surprise me.

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Adam Curry: So as an example of
this, and as you know, we need

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what we've seen, I was just
thinking about this. The trauma

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we all had through COVID, which
was and we all had, we know you

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didn't but everyone else has has
some residual trauma from family

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members who shunned you from
friends who are no longer

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friends from being called, you
know, a leper a leech a horrible

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person to not being able to
breathe. And then we had in the

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middle of that George Floyd and
we're like, No justice, no

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peace. That chance, which really
started Occupy Wall Street if

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you remember that, you know,
it's like Mic check, mic, check.

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Mic check, mic check. And all of
that crap. But it has a Mic

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check. But it's very effective.
And the chanting has become an

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easy simple way to grab a
younger age demographic.

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Particularly jingles it thank
you. Someone sent me. I don't

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have a clip of it. Because it
doesn't really work without the

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visuals. But someone sent me
sent me a campaign video for

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00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:56,520
Biden, Harris. I said, How Why?
Why is it that this is just so

676
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,030
compelling? And I said, Dude,
it's a whole rap jingle. That's

677
00:39:00,030 --> 00:39:05,640
why it's always the jingle.
Always the jingle. And even

678
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,490
professional marketers don't
understand. Well, that's kind of

679
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:12,990
hokey. We had a jingle you know,
that's me.

680
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,210
John C Dvorak: You know, that's
funny. You say that? Because I

681
00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:21,330
think there's some there's some
arrogant goes out. There's let

682
00:39:21,330 --> 00:39:26,700
me go. Tell this is a story. I
can tell kind of about these

683
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:31,410
marketing guys. I went to when I
was taking, I took a lot of

684
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:34,830
courses in direct marketing that
first I took the seminars in New

685
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:40,710
York, but I've taken them over
time. And I took some major ones

686
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:44,250
in the San Francisco Bay are
there one or two day seminars?

687
00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:48,090
And there was a message they all
of these guys always had. Don't

688
00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:52,440
try to be funny. Don't be funny.
Don't do anything funny. Don't

689
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,270
do any humor, whatever you do.
And I on the show we had on Tech

690
00:39:57,270 --> 00:40:01,920
TV called Big thinkers. I got to
it interviewed Jay ChIAT.

691
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,210
Adam Curry: From Shai day, very
famous, very bad guy, very, very

692
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:10,260
John C Dvorak: famous. So we had
drinks with him afterwards. And

693
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:15,180
I asked him about this
specifically. And he says it

694
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:19,470
stems from an old book, he says
is bullshit. For one thing.

695
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,240
Didn't you know how to be funny?
You?

696
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:25,860
Adam Curry: Didn't take didn't
shy a day. They certainly did

697
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:29,100
Apple. Yeah, they did apples.
They also did Coca Cola, I

698
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:29,670
think.

699
00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:32,940
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
they did. I think so. Did they

700
00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:38,760
did they did the best Apple
stuff. Yeah. And he said that,

701
00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:41,550
if you know how to be funny,
this is a great way to do it.

702
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:47,400
And Stan Freeburg, for example,
had a whole agency doing nothing

703
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,850
but humorous ads, you have to be
to be careful not to funny, so

704
00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:53,880
nobody remembers the product. He
says just you just have to know

705
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,570
how to do it. He says it all
stems from one book that one of

706
00:40:57,570 --> 00:41:00,600
the old timers wrote some years
ago where he put that in there

707
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,170
as an edict and everybody just
mows it. And this is the kind of

708
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:08,550
thing these guys generally
speaking, don't understand

709
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:13,080
anything. Now they're the
marketing guys now, so they

710
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,480
wouldn't get it. Yeah. How White
would jingles I don't know is,

711
00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:18,210
you know, it's I don't know,
how, why is that we're just make

712
00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:19,770
sense. This

713
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,370
Adam Curry: year, it doesn't
make sense at all. Whereas we

714
00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:29,640
understand how well it works.
And example if you see that is

715
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,190
not an official government
dzingel But it shouldn't be.

716
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,520
John C Dvorak: It should have
been years ago. Anyway. It's

717
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:35,760
more

718
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,860
Adam Curry: tribal than that.
It's more simplistic, you know,

719
00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:42,420
as the Hey, hey, ho ho. Mele.
Donald Trump has got to go. But

720
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:46,440
Georgetown, they took up the the
river to the sea.

721
00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:18,810
I mean, this is good stuff. And
that's I mean, that's as good as

722
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:24,360
any Hitler chant. It even sounds
like one is good. I mean, that

723
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,450
is correct. If that's effective,
and all the kids have the

724
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:31,410
kyphosis they're all clad in
that Kifah clad, if I'm saying

725
00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:32,160
it right, even,

726
00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:34,470
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
it is. I don't know what you're

727
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:35,070
talking about.

728
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:36,930
Adam Curry: That's the scarfs.
The

729
00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:39,600
John C Dvorak: Palestinian,
though that Palestinian Scarfie

730
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:46,410
I have one of those. So of
course you do it in Israel. And

731
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:48,960
Adam Curry: CNN this morning,
we're back to Danna bash. She

732
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,440
must be listening to the show
because she's taking a page from

733
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,660
the John C. Dvorak script.

734
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,540
Unknown: The fact that anti
semitism and by the way, a lot

735
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:59,490
of experts say we should just
call it and do hate.

736
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:04,860
Adam Curry: There it is. Let's
just call it what it is. Just

737
00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:05,670
call it a Jew hate

738
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:09,210
Unknown: anti semitism. And by
the way, a lot of experts say we

739
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:11,790
should just call it and do hate
on anti semitism because

740
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:16,110
Adam Curry: a lot of experts say
we just call it Jew hate. Oh my

741
00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:20,970
god. Okay. What is going on
here? Because, you know, it

742
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:24,690
sounds like though is it only
the world Workers Party? No. Is

743
00:43:24,690 --> 00:43:30,060
it only the CIA in the military
industrial complex now, that's

744
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:33,990
not really people and human
entities. It's the evil rulers

745
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:38,310
and authorities of the unseen
world. dark powers, pure evil in

746
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:43,320
the universe. That's what this
is. And by forcing people to

747
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,820
pick sides, you're just playing
into it. And that only benefits

748
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:51,570
another dark force in the human
world, which is the political

749
00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:56,940
parties who wants you to do
anything? Anything but look

750
00:43:56,940 --> 00:44:01,140
around at your own your own
environment, your own city?

751
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:05,010
Which I have to say by the way,
San Francisco is cleaned up

752
00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:09,810
nicely cleaned up I mean, I even
got a report yes on the ground

753
00:44:09,810 --> 00:44:12,510
reports from people about how
nicely it's done. Oh, the

754
00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:13,770
John C Dvorak: city is
beautiful. This city this is

755
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:16,560
what the city should be like all
the time. But why can't it be?

756
00:44:16,860 --> 00:44:20,220
They don't want it this way.
They want it to be poop lot

757
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:22,170
pooped, it would poop all over.
Yes.

758
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:25,170
Adam Curry: Well, that's not
going to happen. But anyway, I

759
00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:31,650
think I have to say, this is
we're not going to Iran is not

760
00:44:31,650 --> 00:44:35,880
going to take the bait. And
Lindsey Graham, he's when has he

761
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,050
been right on anything? So you
know, he's

762
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,550
John C Dvorak: he's just he is a
stooge. It has to do with this.

763
00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:48,930
It was his campaign financing is
due to the military industrial

764
00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:52,020
complex, and I don't know
specifically who I don't look at

765
00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:55,650
his numbers. I don't care who
cares. He can get voted out

766
00:44:55,650 --> 00:45:00,090
anyway. But he takes a lot of
money from these guys and he He

767
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,440
says what they want him to say.
Or what he thinks they want him

768
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,920
to say.

769
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:10,350
Adam Curry: Exactly. For sure
when he says to be sure, for

770
00:45:10,350 --> 00:45:15,300
sure. When I want to say for
sure. That's when he's parroting

771
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:25,680
the talking points. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. So this is really divide

772
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,210
and conquer. Divide people
divide again it this is no

773
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:36,360
different from Mas no mas Vax
Novak's red, blue, Trump, no

774
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,010
trump, it's all the same thing.
And many of our own no agenda

775
00:45:41,010 --> 00:45:43,650
nation get my nation people are
falling for it.

776
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,950
John C Dvorak: Oh, boy, how can
you not you're in a data we

777
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:49,950
played that three by three?
Yeah, you no matter where you

778
00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:52,560
go, I mean, I'm sure Fox has
very similar reports. We don't

779
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,460
have that it's not a four by
four. And it's fine. If you

780
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:01,050
unless you live in a hole and
you don't take in any media,

781
00:46:01,050 --> 00:46:03,240
you're gonna fall for it.
Because that's what they want

782
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,100
you to do. So you buy stuff?

783
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,870
Adam Curry: Yes. Buy stuff. All
right now, can I get to the new

784
00:46:09,870 --> 00:46:10,980
bullcrap of the day?

785
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:15,660
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's about
time. Yes, the new bull crap of

786
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:20,520
Adam Curry: the day, we have an
Emmy, I should have you how many

787
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,010
times in your life as a
journalist, a member of the

788
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:31,740
press? Have you worked on a
story and agreed to release your

789
00:46:31,740 --> 00:46:37,380
own reporting together at the
same time on the same day? So

790
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:40,170
there's a big international
story. You're an American

791
00:46:40,170 --> 00:46:44,310
publication, there's a European
publication, and you're working

792
00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:48,420
on it together. So you can break
the story on the same day? How

793
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:52,440
many times have we actually seen
this happen? Have you ever

794
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,430
witnessed and

795
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:55,440
John C Dvorak: been involved in
that level of reporting, but I

796
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,220
can say this, I think it
happens. The only thing is is

797
00:46:59,220 --> 00:47:01,650
done by agreement. here's the
here's here's how it would

798
00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:06,690
happen. You there's exclusive
sources that you have and this

799
00:47:06,690 --> 00:47:10,500
exclusive sources the other
publication has, and you agree

800
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:15,570
to exchange sources and
background information if

801
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,760
neither one of you throws it out
there first. It's not an unusual

802
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:21,690
situation.

803
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:25,710
Adam Curry: So but it could be a
massive op.

804
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,550
John C Dvorak: It could be but
this happens. This happens used

805
00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:33,480
to happen in tech a lot where
everybody was they had a Do you

806
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,840
see is like the embargo until
2pm, blah, blah, blah.

807
00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:41,940
Adam Curry: But that's more like
there's an embargo was more that

808
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:45,300
there's a press release. That's
like the new iPhone. Day.

809
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:47,370
John C Dvorak: It could be you
could be it could be a live

810
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:48,960
event, and then you still behind
bars.

811
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,560
Adam Curry: But not breaking
breaking news, something? I

812
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:52,920
think

813
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,650
John C Dvorak: I think there was
a deal. Yeah, it does happen. I

814
00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:58,440
don't think it's not shocking to
me as it seems to be to you.

815
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:03,600
Adam Curry: What kind of story
sources would the Washington

816
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,360
Post and their Spiegel have in
common?

817
00:48:07,950 --> 00:48:10,470
John C Dvorak: They wouldn't
have any many in common. And

818
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:12,750
that's why this deal would have
been done in the first place so

819
00:48:12,750 --> 00:48:14,010
they can swap sources.

820
00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:17,940
Adam Curry: Well, here it is.
Because now we're done. There's

821
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:21,450
no more question. The riddle has
been solved.

822
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,890
Unknown: The man in this picture
is Colonel Roman chevensky. It

823
00:48:25,890 --> 00:48:29,460
shows him in a classroom in
Kyiv, where he is being held on

824
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:33,720
charges of abusing his power
during a plot to Lua a Russian

825
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:38,610
pilot to defect to Ukraine. Now
here's the subject of another

826
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:42,600
investigation. According to an
exclusive from the Washington

827
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,380
Post and Spiegel he was central
to the controversial bombing of

828
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:50,820
the Nord Stream natural gas
pipelines. No sources have

829
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:54,030
painted a picture of him
managing logistics for a six

830
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:58,230
person team that rented a
sailboat under false identities

831
00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:02,460
and dove deep into the Baltic
Sea to plant explosive charges

832
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,990
on the gas pipelines. They say
he didn't act alone and that his

833
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:11,610
orders ultimately came from
senior military officials. The

834
00:49:11,610 --> 00:49:15,750
act of sabotage was condemned by
the West after it left only one

835
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:19,590
of four gas links in the network
intact. Ahead of a looming

836
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:23,910
European winter. Nord Stream one
and two pipelines run from

837
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:27,330
Russia to Germany and provide
energy to millions of people in

838
00:49:27,330 --> 00:49:31,320
Europe. Critically, the Nord
Stream bypasses Ukraine.

839
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:35,820
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
Zelensky has previously denied

840
00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:40,230
Ukrainian involvement in the
explosion. Walker. Bush the

841
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,830
Ukrainians definitely didn't do
it definitely didn't like and

842
00:49:43,830 --> 00:49:47,520
that is the most important
thing. Yeah. Someone said there

843
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,720
was some signs or even a certain
Ukrainian flag. It's funny to be

844
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:57,390
honest. What we're interested in
is arms deliveries and or

845
00:49:57,390 --> 00:49:57,870
victory.

846
00:49:58,830 --> 00:50:02,850
Adam Curry: So I think that This
was put together. Before

847
00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:05,040
John C Dvorak: you start, I'm
going to backup off and what I

848
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,970
said, because I didn't know this
story. The story is obviously

849
00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:12,660
what you're going to say see is
an OP. It's an office bowl crap.

850
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:12,750
By

851
00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:15,270
Adam Curry: the way, did she say
Lozinski? Or Zelinsky?

852
00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:17,849
John C Dvorak: I thought she
said Zelinsky. Back in

853
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:21,810
Unknown: Europe. Critically, the
Nord Stream button Ukrainian

854
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,330
president Volodymyr Zelensky has
no she says

855
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:32,460
Adam Curry: What an idiot. I
think that this signals a

856
00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:37,080
change. And the change here is
let's start slowly ending this

857
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,030
war by getting the EU

858
00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:42,840
John C Dvorak: pissed. You've
been saying this for a year. Now

859
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,640
we're getting there by

860
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,990
Adam Curry: by getting the
European Union angry that this

861
00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:53,850
was Ukraine. This is Ukraine.
Ukraine blew up the pipeline.

862
00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,780
Volodymyr Lozinski, clearly does
not have the military under his

863
00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:05,010
grasp. Things have to change.
There's no other reason for

864
00:51:05,010 --> 00:51:09,480
this. This is this is a done
story.

865
00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:17,970
John C Dvorak: Why all of us?
I'm 100%. Yeah, I'm 100% with

866
00:51:17,970 --> 00:51:21,540
you on this. This is a dumb
story. There's no it is a

867
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:27,420
signaling story. And you have
two groups of journalistic

868
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:31,590
institutions that are controlled
by intelligence agencies do just

869
00:51:31,590 --> 00:51:36,060
do to institute villages. You
got two groups do stooges Der

870
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:41,640
Spiegel and Washington Post
controlled by outside influences

871
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,190
and they're doing this to get to
send a message a worldwide

872
00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:44,760
message.

873
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,020
Adam Curry: There's some other
things going on not really

874
00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:53,370
widely discussed, of course,
Ukraine run by President

875
00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:57,480
Vladimir Allah Zelensky. I
can't. I can't stop saying

876
00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:04,530
they're not part of the European
Union and Poland is sick and

877
00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:05,970
tired of it Ukrainian

878
00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:08,790
Unknown: truck drivers and
gridlock on the Polish border.

879
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,270
Traditionally close allies
competition in the transport

880
00:52:12,270 --> 00:52:14,880
sector has caused tensions
between the two countries,

881
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:17,880
leading Polish truckers to block
crossings for a fourth

882
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,020
consecutive day. One driver on
route to Estonia labeled Poland

883
00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:25,500
a transit country and called for
the roads to be reopened.

884
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,750
Know that people go who are not
going to Poland. Going further.

885
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:34,680
afield. We're going further. We
don't need Poland.

886
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,020
Others forwarded the blame
towards politicians. Limulus

887
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:42,660
Chappelle said obviously it's
not the drivers and businessmen

888
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:45,300
who are doing anything wrong,
not me. Yes, the political

889
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:46,530
ambitions of the polls.

890
00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:51,750
The EU weight payments for
Ukrainian transport companies

891
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:55,290
entering the block after
Russia's invasion last year. But

892
00:52:55,290 --> 00:52:59,190
the Polish protesters want those
permits reinstated. Claiming the

893
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competition is unfair. Getting

894
00:53:01,350 --> 00:53:04,050
myself across on those tiny
chips. Those companies are much

895
00:53:04,050 --> 00:53:07,770
cheaper because they don't have
permits. And they pay their

896
00:53:07,770 --> 00:53:11,940
employees much less than we pay
our employees. Meanwhile,

897
00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:14,340
Ukrainian truckers left at a
standstill.

898
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,920
You see there is a ditch in a
field and no toilets nothing as

899
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,870
round of conditions can you
expect?

900
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:26,550
cubes is around 20,000 trucks
are blocked on both sides of the

901
00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:31,440
border with estimated wait times
ranging up to six days. Wow.

902
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:33,570
Adam Curry: So that's a problem
there? Well, this

903
00:53:33,570 --> 00:53:36,150
John C Dvorak: is it this?
Shouldn't we need to discuss

904
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:40,290
this a little bit. Because at
the beginning the polls were all

905
00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:44,430
gung ho on this war because they
hate the Russians. But I think

906
00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:47,550
at some level they hate the
Ukrainians as much. The

907
00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:51,540
Ukrainians are troublemakers are
basically Russians, if for all

908
00:53:51,540 --> 00:53:56,550
practical purposes, in terms of
their their culture, Poland

909
00:53:56,550 --> 00:53:59,430
Adam Curry: live next to this
has been next to this country

910
00:53:59,580 --> 00:54:03,540
forever. They know exactly
what's for sale there. They've

911
00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:07,800
know this is not some mystery to
the Polish, like right

912
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,330
corruption, drugs, cookers,
money laundering, all of that

913
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,290
Ukraine. I love it. They know
this they know what's going on.

914
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,580
John C Dvorak: And now the
Ukrainians are in their face and

915
00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:23,040
it's like we don't want him here
and we're now we're getting sick

916
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,210
of this stupid war various issue
for us and let's do something

917
00:54:27,210 --> 00:54:29,790
about it and nobody wants to do
anything about it. Now

918
00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:33,060
Adam Curry: now we have these
dichotomies these these these

919
00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:38,460
weird, and this is what this is
what's messing up politics right

920
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:41,250
now. I mean, I was like, Well,
you know, we're supporting

921
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:45,360
Israel, but our base that we
have mind control with chants

922
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,580
are calling our leader genocide
Joe, you know, this, like, save

923
00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:55,200
the Gaza babies but abortion and
I was like, my brain is freaking

924
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,500
out. And now Amnesty
International comes in. Amnesty

925
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:00,780
Unknown: International has
accused the West The governments

926
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:04,230
that support Israel's invasion
of Gaza have double standards

927
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:06,510
when compared with its
condemnation of Russia's

928
00:55:06,510 --> 00:55:10,470
invasion of Ukraine. And the
group Secretary General told the

929
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:14,100
Paris Peace Forum that the West
ants posed a threat to human

930
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,270
rights. It

931
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:20,310
is reflected right now in the
double standard that we are

932
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,820
witnessing the Western bloc
demanding that we all rush to

933
00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:31,290
the Defense of Ukraine as we
should, because Ukraine has been

934
00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:37,830
aggressed by Russia, and they
are unbelievable suffering in

935
00:55:37,830 --> 00:55:44,160
Ukraine. And at the same times,
telling us not to act on the

936
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:48,900
multipole bombing for the
absolute suffering of the people

937
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:55,890
of Giza. The double standard of
those governments, you know, to

938
00:55:55,890 --> 00:55:59,850
me are the biggest threat to
human rights right now. Your

939
00:55:59,850 --> 00:56:00,570
work is

940
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,390
a forum is an annual event that
involves governments,

941
00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:06,870
nongovernmental organizations
and others who discuss global

942
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:08,220
crises. I'm

943
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:10,920
Adam Curry: not really sure what
side they're on now, but they

944
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,960
make a point. We didn't get any
propaganda about dead babies in

945
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,650
Ukraine.

946
00:56:17,970 --> 00:56:20,880
John C Dvorak: Did we know at
worst, the ceasefire, as I

947
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:26,100
mentioned earlier? Did you see
nobody's calling for a

948
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:27,030
ceasefire?

949
00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:30,300
Adam Curry: No. Did you see the
there was a story that kind of

950
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:35,040
came and went for a specific
reason. The story that that flew

951
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,590
by, I think was maybe Friday was
Hamas was threatening to shoot

952
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:44,520
fentanyl tipped rockets into
Israel.

953
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,750
John C Dvorak: So that story
came and went it came and went

954
00:56:48,750 --> 00:56:52,260
Unknown: because of this story.
The letter in Georgia is among

955
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:55,500
more than a dozen sent to
election offices in at least

956
00:56:55,500 --> 00:57:01,170
five states. One letter says End
elections now. Another warns of

957
00:57:01,170 --> 00:57:05,010
white powder and reference
communists both featured symbols

958
00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:08,430
of left wing groups law
enforcement sources say the

959
00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:12,990
letters sent across the country
appear to be threats to scare

960
00:57:12,990 --> 00:57:15,120
rather than seriously harm.

961
00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:18,480
They're intentionally trying to
break us break us enough to stop

962
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,690
elections and that's not going
to happen. It quite frankly that

963
00:57:21,690 --> 00:57:23,850
the opposite. It lit a fire
underneath us

964
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:27,630
investigators are working to
track down the sender using the

965
00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:31,950
message is symbols and paper
itself along with examining the

966
00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:35,340
stamps for fingerprints to
pinpoint the location where the

967
00:57:35,340 --> 00:57:37,770
envelopes are dropped in the
mail. Now

968
00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:40,410
Adam Curry: this is CBS my
friend Jeff gays.

969
00:57:41,730 --> 00:57:44,010
John C Dvorak: I have a thought
he was on NBC

970
00:57:51,330 --> 00:57:58,590
Adam Curry: ABC, CBS, this is
from CBS. I don't know why. I

971
00:57:58,590 --> 00:58:02,850
thought Jeff Briggs was always
CBS. Thank you. You're confusing

972
00:58:02,850 --> 00:58:03,240
me now.

973
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:08,130
John C Dvorak: I don't hear
enough from him. So it's, you

974
00:58:08,130 --> 00:58:13,350
know, it's easy to forget where
you are, you know, CBS

975
00:58:13,350 --> 00:58:15,450
Adam Curry: died. I look
according to the wiki pedia.

976
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,490
He's a CBS News correspondent
but thank you for CBS. So what

977
00:58:20,490 --> 00:58:23,730
does he say here? Or what what
did the official say hello I'm

978
00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:24,150
gonna go back

979
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:26,670
Unknown: here stop elections.
And that's not going to happen.

980
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:29,280
It quite frankly that the
opposite. It lit a fire

981
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,000
underneath us

982
00:58:30,060 --> 00:58:33,780
investigators are working to
track down the sender using the

983
00:58:33,780 --> 00:58:36,720
message is symbols and paper
itself.

984
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,190
Adam Curry: Trying to track down
the messages using the symbols

985
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:46,770
the paper itself and not a
single one of the M five M

986
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,800
networks and I have I could play
more stories. In fact, I

987
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,120
probably will play CNN after
this. If you freeze frame and

988
00:58:54,120 --> 00:59:01,170
look at the letter, the letter
that was sent it says stop

989
00:59:01,170 --> 00:59:09,450
giving power to the right. And
it has three symbols on the

990
00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:16,590
paper, a trans flag, an Antifa
symbol and a satanic pentagram

991
00:59:17,310 --> 00:59:21,900
who would that be coming from
but none of them mention it?

992
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,790
This is this is your chicken
crap reporting right here. This

993
00:59:26,790 --> 00:59:30,840
is really really bad. You this
showing the letters.

994
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,760
John C Dvorak: You can see it
Yeah, they are and they're

995
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,740
showing the three symbols, but

996
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:38,460
Adam Curry: not a single one
mentioned it. That's that's

997
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:42,330
really egregious. If it's really
wrong with

998
00:59:42,330 --> 00:59:45,450
Unknown: examining the stamps
for fingerprints to pinpoint the

999
00:59:45,450 --> 00:59:46,140
location.

1000
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,440
John C Dvorak: Would you
specifically think of sending it

1001
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,540
Adam Curry: someone who's trans
on Tifa and a Satanist. Hello,

1002
00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:56,250
how hard is this?

1003
00:59:56,970 --> 01:00:00,390
Unknown: Or dropped in the mail
right now the focus of appears

1004
01:00:00,390 --> 01:00:04,260
to be on the Pacific Northwest.
Heartland,

1005
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,160
Adam Curry: the scene of less
activity,

1006
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:12,000
Unknown: someone is trying to
make people fearful as they

1007
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,410
opened ballots as they respond
to routine correspondence. And

1008
01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:18,870
this this is the exact
definition of domestic

1009
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:19,590
terrorism,

1010
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,440
Adam Curry: which kind of makes
you want to think oh, that must

1011
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,790
be a white supremacist.

1012
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,150
Unknown: All right. Like these
are having an impact on them

1013
01:00:27,150 --> 01:00:31,140
volunteers working at the polls,
nor according to recent survey

1014
01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:35,430
by the Brennan Center, one in
five election workers is left

1015
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:38,580
their job in part because
they're concerned about their

1016
01:00:38,580 --> 01:00:39,570
safety. It's a

1017
01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:42,030
Adam Curry: threat to democracy,
to threats. You know, what,

1018
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,630
honestly, if you want a profile
of the person, I'd say the the

1019
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:48,330
Nashville shooter, there's your
profile right there. I

1020
01:00:48,330 --> 01:00:51,180
John C Dvorak: think so too.
Now. It's interesting, she say

1021
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:55,080
threat to democracy, because
that is that's code. Yeah. So

1022
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,820
Adam Curry: Trump for Trump.
Yes.

1023
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:00,390
John C Dvorak: So she's saying
that. Okay, so what you're

1024
01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:04,020
saying I didn't think about
this, and he sense that you are

1025
01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:08,430
thinking about it, is that this
person is, or the group is

1026
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:11,820
easily identifiable by those
three symbols. That's those

1027
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:14,610
three symbols represent them,
and you probably do, especially

1028
01:01:14,610 --> 01:01:18,270
that one Antifa sem symbol,
which is not a common one, you

1029
01:01:18,270 --> 01:01:21,480
don't see it that much. But
which is the arrows pointing

1030
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,760
down? And you have so you have
you have the modern gave that

1031
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,270
whatever, the progressive gay
flag, you have the Antifa. And

1032
01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:34,140
you have the Satanist. Yeah. And
no, and you're right, not one

1033
01:01:34,140 --> 01:01:38,190
report has mentioned any of
that. They just kind of point as

1034
01:01:38,190 --> 01:01:41,910
the three symbols. They never
say what they mean. And they

1035
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:45,540
never equate it to the to the
letter in any way. And then they

1036
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:50,700
follow up with this with the
antiTrump comment, as if he's

1037
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:52,830
got anything to do with those
three groups,

1038
01:01:53,220 --> 01:01:57,360
Adam Curry: whereas they never
called the Nashville shooter. A

1039
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:03,720
domestic terrorist. No, but
it's, this is exactly the

1040
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,170
profile of person I would be
looking for. In fact, if I was

1041
01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:11,820
at the news desk, I'd say write
this in there. This could be

1042
01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:16,050
someone like the Nashville
shooter. And of course, we can't

1043
01:02:16,050 --> 01:02:18,870
even acknowledge I acknowledge
did speak

1044
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:21,300
John C Dvorak: to a story. I had
to bring this story. I love your

1045
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:21,840
stories. I

1046
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,990
Adam Curry: mean, I cut this for
the deconstruction my father,

1047
01:02:24,990 --> 01:02:27,810
John C Dvorak: this is a story.
I've got three clips, two clips.

1048
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,800
Oh, wow. All right. Actually,
maybe there's only one clip.

1049
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,470
This is disappointing to see
what you just said is, I think

1050
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:41,130
confirmed by this story, which
you never heard of. It's another

1051
01:02:41,130 --> 01:02:47,160
trans kid. And this trans kid is
a fat dude who who's not, I

1052
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,570
think in junior high, and he's a
fat dude, who would have

1053
01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:55,110
obviously in my looking at him,
would it become probably a

1054
01:02:55,110 --> 01:02:58,470
premier programmer of the fat
style?

1055
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,950
Adam Curry: Black black nail
polish fingernail polish.

1056
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:06,390
John C Dvorak: Well, I never saw
his fingers. Okay, but they be

1057
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:10,260
turned into a girl supposedly.
And he's still looks like a fat

1058
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:14,280
kid. And he's, and this is one
of those stories that the

1059
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,980
national media could have picked
up on if you're on the on the

1060
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,920
national desk you could have
picked up on any of the local

1061
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,790
papers could be picked up by but
no, it's an isolated story. And

1062
01:03:23,790 --> 01:03:26,370
I think these stories are all
over the country. I was turned

1063
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:29,640
on to by somebody sent me some
clips from Colorado Springs

1064
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,420
channel 11. And this is the
channel 11 story on the trans

1065
01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:35,340
kid found guilty a person

1066
01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:37,560
Unknown: who authorities say
threatened several mass

1067
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,610
shootings in Colorado Springs
has taken a plea deal. Lily

1068
01:03:41,610 --> 01:03:44,550
Whitworth is from Elbert County.
We told you earlier this year

1069
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:47,490
that Whitworth was arrested
after her sister told deputies

1070
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,310
she was threatening to shoot
people at a school in district

1071
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:53,700
20 And also at a future 11. A
supporter Erin Vento is

1072
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:56,580
following this case today. Aaron
Whitworth is pleading guilty to

1073
01:03:56,580 --> 01:04:00,120
an entirely new charge Adam Lily
who was initially identified by

1074
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,570
her birth name William and these
arrest papers pleaded guilty to

1075
01:04:03,570 --> 01:04:07,350
second degree assault. That's a
class four felony deputies with

1076
01:04:07,350 --> 01:04:09,960
Elbert County Sheriff's Office.
They this all came from not only

1077
01:04:10,110 --> 01:04:12,810
a threat to shoot people at
those locations you mentioned

1078
01:04:12,810 --> 01:04:17,010
but also a manifesto detailing
her plans. The rest papers they

1079
01:04:17,010 --> 01:04:20,310
were specifically named
timberview middle school saying

1080
01:04:20,310 --> 01:04:23,580
she went there now Tony told us
she never spent more than a few

1081
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:26,430
months at their schools saying
what worth only spent a full

1082
01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:29,400
semester at one of their middle
schools. They were across with

1083
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,970
the 18th judicial districts as
with this plea with faces a

1084
01:04:32,970 --> 01:04:38,160
maximum of 16 years in prison. I
am just grateful that nothing

1085
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,580
happened. No one was injured. We
got a conviction and law

1086
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:45,540
enforcement in this particular
case was able to be proactive

1087
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,420
and stop a potential threat
before something happened

1088
01:04:49,110 --> 01:04:53,010
earlier this year at D 20.
Credit with SR with saving many

1089
01:04:53,010 --> 01:04:54,930
lives by reporting those
threats.

1090
01:04:55,020 --> 01:04:57,660
Adam Curry: Well good I'm
Colorado Springs channel 11 for

1091
01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:01,290
reporting this because I can all
already predict what's going to

1092
01:05:01,290 --> 01:05:07,260
happen. These news
organizations, and as you know,

1093
01:05:07,260 --> 01:05:10,710
journalists are being killed
left and right in, in Gaza?

1094
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:19,320
Well, I would say there's a
chance because of the reporting

1095
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,190
that's being done from some of
the some of the networks and

1096
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:26,700
that kind of wishy washy in a
way, you know, you they should

1097
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:30,240
watch out, they could have one
of these crazy trans kids show

1098
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:35,370
up and start shooting up a
station or dropping fentanyl at

1099
01:05:35,370 --> 01:05:39,960
a at a television station or
network. Have there's this is

1100
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:43,590
this is really dangerous, not
for not the people you would

1101
01:05:43,590 --> 01:05:44,790
think it's dangerous for.

1102
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:48,240
John C Dvorak: You know what I
mean? Interesting point, I think

1103
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,170
you're right. I

1104
01:05:49,170 --> 01:05:53,730
Adam Curry: mean, these days, if
you are anti LGBTQ and, and

1105
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:58,560
that's just a conglomerate, but
I would say this guy from Tyler,

1106
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,810
Texas, who happens to be a
bishop. Like he happens to be

1107
01:06:03,810 --> 01:06:07,650
gay happens to be a bishop, I
would say that his main issue

1108
01:06:07,650 --> 01:06:14,730
was probably trans in the
church, or the sparkle services

1109
01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:17,040
on if you've heard any of Have
you seen those videos of the

1110
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,330
sparkle services?

1111
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:23,430
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
So no, like a horse.

1112
01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:30,570
Adam Curry: So, Pope Francis,
kick this guy out of the church.

1113
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,200
Unknown: Well, it is a fairly
rare move. I mean, for a bishop

1114
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,580
to be effectively fired in this
way. I mean, normally, as you

1115
01:06:38,580 --> 01:06:42,240
mentioned, perhaps there's some
issues and investigation is

1116
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,230
carried out and the bishop
usually is asked to resign for

1117
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:50,430
the good of the Diocese, and for
the church at large. But Joseph

1118
01:06:50,430 --> 01:06:54,900
Strickland, the 65 year old
Bishop of Tyler in Texas, in the

1119
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:58,890
United States said he made it
clear that he was not going to

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01:06:58,890 --> 01:07:02,100
resign that he had been given
the mandate by the former Pope

1121
01:07:02,130 --> 01:07:06,480
Benedict, the 16th. And his
flock needed him. And so as a

1122
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,540
result, a one line statement
effectively came out of the

1123
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:14,400
Vatican, saying that Francis had
relieved him from his position.

1124
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,300
Now he had been a leading voice,
a traditionalist, a

1125
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:23,700
conservative, a vocal critic of
Pope Francis, he had said that

1126
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:27,120
the Pope had in the past that
had undermined the Catholic

1127
01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:32,040
faith, and that yet threatened
its basic truths. And in fact,

1128
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,340
he had criticized this recent
month long meeting that happened

1129
01:07:35,340 --> 01:07:38,910
at the Vatican, the Synod, in
which bishops from all around

1130
01:07:38,910 --> 01:07:42,150
the world were gathered
together, as well as some lay

1131
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:46,230
people to discuss about some hot
button topics such as the role

1132
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:50,910
of women in the church, as well
as the role of LGBTQ Catholics,

1133
01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:56,460
and he had question this very
meeting. So an investigation had

1134
01:07:56,460 --> 01:08:00,540
been held earlier this year into
his governance of his diocese,

1135
01:08:00,750 --> 01:08:04,200
lay people as well as priests
had been interviewed. And so,

1136
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:08,970
the recommendation had been made
to Francis that he be removed.

1137
01:08:09,150 --> 01:08:12,480
So clearly, right now, this
fairly rare move has been taken,

1138
01:08:12,570 --> 01:08:14,610
and he has been removed from his
position.

1139
01:08:17,010 --> 01:08:21,240
Adam Curry: relieved of duty by
like that, from this bishop is

1140
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,760
relieved of duty. I tell you, so
this is a dangerous situation.

1141
01:08:27,390 --> 01:08:31,860
And and that's not going to be
dangerous for the people you

1142
01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:37,680
think it is, you know, the left
under the these three symbols

1143
01:08:37,770 --> 01:08:41,310
trans because it's not just it
wasn't just an LGBTQ flag, John

1144
01:08:41,310 --> 01:08:45,330
was the trail is a big is to
translate trans flag and Tifa

1145
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:50,910
known problems throughout the
world, not just in America. And

1146
01:08:50,910 --> 01:08:54,690
the satanists, not always the
good guys, as far as I'm

1147
01:08:54,690 --> 01:08:58,860
concerned. The journalists need
to be very careful, very

1148
01:08:58,860 --> 01:09:06,540
careful, because this is unhinge
behavior. And fentanyl. They're

1149
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:12,180
going to rue the day that they
that they didn't really focus on

1150
01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:15,990
the fentanyl story other than
Oh, the Sacklers Oh, the

1151
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:19,650
Sacklers did it the Sacklers did
it. You will ruin it. I gotta

1152
01:09:19,650 --> 01:09:21,900
tell you, I'm thinking like, I
just want a little bit of

1153
01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:23,220
personal Narcan. Now.

1154
01:09:25,229 --> 01:09:28,289
John C Dvorak: You can get it
you probably get it free if you

1155
01:09:28,289 --> 01:09:29,279
play your cards right.

1156
01:09:30,269 --> 01:09:32,909
Adam Curry: Let's see if we have
any information on it. Let's see

1157
01:09:32,909 --> 01:09:35,219
if we can get an Arcand ad out
of CNN. Do

1158
01:09:35,220 --> 01:09:37,860
Unknown: you have more insight
into these letters who they were

1159
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:39,360
addressed to and what they said

1160
01:09:39,689 --> 01:09:41,879
for Georgia? Not yet. This

1161
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:46,470
Adam Curry: is Brad. He's the
governor of Georgia. What's his

1162
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:47,700
name? Brad.

1163
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,710
John C Dvorak: That guy, that
guy. What we

1164
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:53,130
Unknown: haven't been informed
by by the postal officials is

1165
01:09:53,130 --> 01:09:55,770
that there's a letter in
transit. So it's a three to five

1166
01:09:55,770 --> 01:09:59,310
day transit through their
system. And so obviously they'll

1167
01:09:59,310 --> 01:10:01,950
try it interest fact that when
it comes to the Atlanta

1168
01:10:01,980 --> 01:10:06,510
processing facility, but it
hasn't arrived to Georgia yet,

1169
01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:09,240
so we don't know that will be
intercepted. And that's why we

1170
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,640
prepared staff at the Fulton
County election office.

1171
01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:14,250
Adam Curry: So that reference
burger and apparently there's a

1172
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,680
there's a letter in transit, if

1173
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,110
Unknown: it does actually make
it through our system, and it

1174
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:21,870
arrives, this is what you do and
how you'd handle it.

1175
01:10:22,170 --> 01:10:24,600
How do you know that it's in
trick? Like, what's the

1176
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,310
information that lets you know
it's in transit? How do

1177
01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:26,970
officials know that

1178
01:10:28,530 --> 01:10:32,370
postal official has some
capabilities? I guess that they

1179
01:10:32,370 --> 01:10:33,480
don't talk about much?

1180
01:10:34,530 --> 01:10:35,610
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.

1181
01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:39,180
John C Dvorak: This is low slope
barcode along the bottom of your

1182
01:10:39,180 --> 01:10:42,240
envelope, you see that long
code? Yeah, very long. Yeah.

1183
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:43,500
That's what they're talking
about

1184
01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:46,500
Unknown: tracking. And based on
what they saw in other

1185
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:48,990
locations, they were identify
that there was another letter

1186
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:51,540
that was obviously another
letter postmark for GA.

1187
01:10:51,810 --> 01:10:54,990
And you haven't heard of any
suspects? Or who may have sent

1188
01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:56,010
these at this point, right?

1189
01:10:57,330 --> 01:11:00,660
Not at this time? No, no, I
understand from just readings

1190
01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:05,040
that they do have identified the
potential suspect, but they're

1191
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,950
gonna keep that very close to,
you know, close to their chest.

1192
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:15,150
Adam Curry: Mm hmm. So I think
this is this is a bigger problem

1193
01:11:15,150 --> 01:11:20,760
than this. The fact that we had
no because now we also have was

1194
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,500
a story from Bloomberg here. Let
me

1195
01:11:22,530 --> 01:11:26,280
John C Dvorak: we have to
mention just in passing, the

1196
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,300
number of times that DEA
officers and others who are

1197
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:34,410
picking up or grabbing a big
shipment of fentanyl, some guy

1198
01:11:34,410 --> 01:11:41,520
just touches a pack package.
Yeah, can and drops. From you

1199
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,700
know, just from just casual
contact. In fact, there's

1200
01:11:44,700 --> 01:11:47,190
another store in Colorado
Springs I can play before you

1201
01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:51,510
play your clip here, which is
this, which incorporates both

1202
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:55,200
fentanyl in the story, but also
some sort of I think some sort

1203
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,400
of reverse insurance fraud
within insurance companies. You

1204
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:05,100
as a is maybe defrauding its
customers in some really screwy

1205
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:09,480
way play this reverse insurance
fraud one clip from from channel

1206
01:12:09,480 --> 01:12:10,020
11.

1207
01:12:10,170 --> 01:12:12,690
Unknown: Now first story that
you're only going to see here on

1208
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:17,610
11 News. A family is speaking
out after they say their son's

1209
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:21,720
Jeep was stolen from their
garage after a break in. They

1210
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,500
tell us that the Jeep was
recovered, but was deemed a

1211
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:29,070
total loss rather totaled by
insurance after we tested

1212
01:12:29,070 --> 01:12:33,120
positive for fentanyl that will
love a news reporter Jared Dean

1213
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,600
is live with us right now. Now
Jared, this family says that

1214
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,740
this Jeep was their son's dream
car. Yeah, Aaron, the roads tell

1215
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:44,280
me that their son's Jeep was
labeled as a biohazard by

1216
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,270
insurance. But they later found
it on an auction website, taking

1217
01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:51,030
bids. Now they tell me that
they've been on and off the

1218
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:54,840
phone with insurance to figure
out why that jeep was on that

1219
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,700
website. wasn't

1220
01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:00,060
aware of how big this kind of
problem is, especially with

1221
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:03,330
everything you hear that I
offend all is a it's a big deal.

1222
01:13:03,330 --> 01:13:08,190
So when it tested positive, the
insurance company immediately

1223
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:10,140
considered it a total loss.

1224
01:13:10,230 --> 01:13:13,530
In September, the Rhodes family
tells me their house was broken

1225
01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:17,220
into and their son's Jeep was
stolen. It was recovered in

1226
01:13:17,220 --> 01:13:21,210
Pueblo. But when their insurance
company did their inspection, it

1227
01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:25,200
tested positive for fentanyl.
They later found the Jeep on the

1228
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,740
auction site seal part with the
label, biohazard

1229
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,680
and even had fentanyl written
across the windshield. That's

1230
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,410
when the two contacted their
insurance asking why the Jeep

1231
01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:37,650
was available for auction.
Despite the Jeep being labeled

1232
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,430
as totaled.

1233
01:13:38,490 --> 01:13:41,400
I started monitoring their site
and come to find out they put it

1234
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:46,320
up for auction. So which that
that's what really disturbed

1235
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,000
us USAA sent them a message back
saying in part quote, for any

1236
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,480
vehicles being deemed a total
loss for the presence of drugs

1237
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:58,110
such as fentanyl, these vehicles
are not supposed to be listed as

1238
01:13:58,110 --> 01:14:01,620
available for auction. The jeep
was then taken off the site

1239
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:06,120
after road said he had several
calls with insurance road says

1240
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,930
that he is still has questions
about how his son's Jeep ended

1241
01:14:09,930 --> 01:14:11,520
up on the site in the first
place.

1242
01:14:11,550 --> 01:14:13,890
But my big thing is how many
times this happened before and

1243
01:14:13,890 --> 01:14:17,070
how many times it's going to
continue to happen if it's not

1244
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:18,420
addressed.

1245
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,640
Adam Curry: Yeah, well here we
are. Here we are. Fentanyl it's

1246
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:28,170
just for rednecks. Now now it's
a bigger problem than you think.

1247
01:14:30,510 --> 01:14:32,250
John C Dvorak: It was a guy that
ever doing so I don't have a

1248
01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:34,410
clip but there was an
interesting interview with

1249
01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:37,200
somebody about this saying oh
the fentanyl it's in there it's

1250
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,730
moved to heroin out just keep
forming heroin. So they he was

1251
01:14:41,730 --> 01:14:44,160
doing some research he's one of
these guys on the street he says

1252
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:50,010
these these these guys looking
for a high heroin high when they

1253
01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:53,700
heard of fentanyl and the effect
it is more powerful. They all

1254
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:57,540
flocked to it. They wanted
fentanyl yes yes one heroin

1255
01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:59,400
anymore. It's no good groovy

1256
01:15:00,810 --> 01:15:03,330
Adam Curry: Now we know this. We
know this and now the fentanyl

1257
01:15:03,330 --> 01:15:09,120
users want tranq because it's
even better. We heard that from

1258
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,500
our own drug dealer insufferable
was that's what drug users do.

1259
01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:17,280
You When You're addicted, it's
like oh man, I can get even I

1260
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,280
mean, I know it's risky, but it
can be even a bigger high. Our

1261
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,520
own drug former drug addicts and
current drug addicts have told

1262
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:31,830
us this. Meanwhile, Indivior PLC
just got $111 million contract

1263
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:36,390
for Narcan whoop B as the US
readies for airborne

1264
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:41,310
bioterrorism with fentanyl and
fentanyl like drugs. According

1265
01:15:41,310 --> 01:15:46,590
to Bloomberg. And reminder,
opioid gas was used in the 2002

1266
01:15:46,590 --> 01:15:49,890
Russian hostage situation. So
the Russians could probably be

1267
01:15:49,890 --> 01:15:55,080
doing it. Those are Russian
those Russians? Yeah, this is

1268
01:15:55,110 --> 01:16:01,770
this is the this is an actual
problem that I that that gives

1269
01:16:01,770 --> 01:16:02,340
me it's not

1270
01:16:02,340 --> 01:16:04,350
John C Dvorak: being addressed
is what you're trying to say.

1271
01:16:04,350 --> 01:16:07,170
Yeah. And it hasn't been
addressed as Ben ignored,

1272
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,820
correct. It's been ignored by
the government. Because they're

1273
01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:14,250
Adam Curry: probably a part of
the problem. Well, they are part

1274
01:16:14,250 --> 01:16:17,880
of the problem, but who knows
how deep it goes. Who knows?

1275
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:24,150
Now, you sent out a newsletter,
which is always always fun,

1276
01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:29,370
always fun to read the
newsletter. And in the

1277
01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:35,190
newsletter you wrote about this.
This article in The Philadelphia

1278
01:16:35,190 --> 01:16:38,460
Inquirer, I believe, yes,
Philadelphia, you want to give

1279
01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:42,180
us the background because I have
some clips to discuss this. Yes,

1280
01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:42,540
this

1281
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,440
John C Dvorak: article is a
being extolled. I'd like to keep

1282
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:51,180
up with the with everybody. In
other words, they don't just

1283
01:16:51,210 --> 01:16:54,510
listen to no agenda socialists,
other people that but they all

1284
01:16:54,510 --> 01:16:58,290
tend to be left wing, if not
Marxist, but they lean. They

1285
01:16:58,290 --> 01:17:01,290
lean left and they're all a lot
of them are journalists. And in

1286
01:17:01,290 --> 01:17:04,380
fact, there's even once a
professor of journalism, and

1287
01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:08,460
they everybody went nuts when
this article came out. And this

1288
01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:12,000
article we should have a link in
the show notes I'm sure you'll

1289
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,440
put it in it's in there of
course. This article is in the

1290
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:19,200
Philadelphia Inquirer by this
guy. I think his name is bunch

1291
01:17:19,650 --> 01:17:21,420
and or let me

1292
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,520
Adam Curry: read the headline.
With the world on fire. A

1293
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:33,330
cowardly timid news media is a
threat to us democracy, subhead,

1294
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:37,650
news organizations are using
cowardly words to describe the

1295
01:17:37,650 --> 01:17:41,580
killing abroad and fascism at
home downplaying the danger to

1296
01:17:41,580 --> 01:17:46,080
democracy. And there's a picture
of Mike Johnson, Mike Johnson

1297
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:53,700
the threat to the democracy
himself. Mike Johnson, the new

1298
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:54,660
speaker of the house.

1299
01:17:54,990 --> 01:17:57,240
John C Dvorak: No, I you you've
made it. I heard a boop sound

1300
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,740
like you're just disconnected.
Nope. Mike Johnson, where whose

1301
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:07,590
view is a fine, man. Very fine.
But the whole piece goes on a

1302
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:11,880
very fine man on both sides. As
the piece goes on, and on and on

1303
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,810
about mostly Republicans and
Trump and Trump being the real

1304
01:18:15,810 --> 01:18:20,130
he's a genuine threat. By the
way, our country's over, as we

1305
01:18:20,130 --> 01:18:23,580
know it. And all these guys are
all in on this threat to

1306
01:18:23,580 --> 01:18:26,670
democracy threat and Trump
threat to democracy. All you

1307
01:18:26,670 --> 01:18:28,800
would have, he would have
already wiped us out. There

1308
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,470
would be no more democracy if he
had his way the first time

1309
01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:34,170
around. And Joy Bay hearts
actually literally said that.

1310
01:18:34,170 --> 01:18:38,760
Yes. And so so everybody went
gaga googoo over this article,

1311
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,330
and what the article actually
says is that reporters should

1312
01:18:42,330 --> 01:18:46,500
not be reporting they should be
advocating they should be

1313
01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:50,790
activists. Yes. And everybody
thinks this is a great idea for

1314
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:55,140
today's news media to be more
activist than they already are.

1315
01:18:55,140 --> 01:18:56,640
Who are we kidding?

1316
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,410
Adam Curry: So this, as you
said, it stems from a New York

1317
01:19:01,410 --> 01:19:04,590
Times article, which is just it
was just so weak, because

1318
01:19:04,590 --> 01:19:08,070
everything all news, all
newspapers, all news outlets,

1319
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:12,600
everything in the United States,
for sure, takes their cues from

1320
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,110
what the New York Times writes.
And then, and the activist news

1321
01:19:16,110 --> 01:19:20,610
media are very disappointed that
the New York Times is not doing

1322
01:19:20,610 --> 01:19:23,010
what the you know, where's the
database, bring back the

1323
01:19:23,010 --> 01:19:28,170
database of his lies. So here's
CBS and this and this comes from

1324
01:19:28,170 --> 01:19:30,900
a couple of different places
that Trump was on Univision.

1325
01:19:31,170 --> 01:19:34,860
Univision is now a problem.
Univision? Yeah, I

1326
01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:36,840
John C Dvorak: saw by the way,
they

1327
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,660
Adam Curry: threw him softball,
softball. It was

1328
01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:43,920
John C Dvorak: it was it was
boring. But it turns out that

1329
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:48,630
throwing Trump's off balls makes
them boring needs to be get

1330
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:50,820
asked hard questions so he can
go off for

1331
01:19:50,820 --> 01:19:54,420
Adam Curry: this is, in fact,
this is the funny part about it.

1332
01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:59,970
If only the media would give him
softballs, he doesn't have good

1333
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,000
sound bites for that. The minute
you are like you give him the

1334
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,300
throw Trump softballs. He goes,
you know, okay, I'm just all

1335
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:10,200
comfortable talking about this.
He doesn't go nuts. No, it's

1336
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,370
boring is boring. It's
commercially not viable to do

1337
01:20:14,370 --> 01:20:17,700
this with Trump anyway, here's
CBS This Morning. This is part

1338
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:22,380
of what Trump was saying that
that is this got everyone's, as

1339
01:20:22,380 --> 01:20:23,910
you would say tit and a ringer.
Former

1340
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:26,100
Unknown: President Donald Trump
addressed the Spanish speaking

1341
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:29,790
voters yesterday in an interview
with the Univision is aired last

1342
01:20:29,790 --> 01:20:32,610
night it was with Univision
correspondent and CBS News

1343
01:20:32,610 --> 01:20:36,330
contributor Enrique Acevedo, who
asked the former president if

1344
01:20:36,330 --> 01:20:39,780
you plan to use the FBI and the
Justice Department to target his

1345
01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:41,670
opponents, if he got a second

1346
01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:46,410
John C Dvorak: term, these could
certainly happen in reverse. It

1347
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:48,810
could certainly happen
everywhere. What they've done is

1348
01:20:48,810 --> 01:20:52,620
they've released the genie out
of the box, you understand that

1349
01:20:52,650 --> 01:20:55,500
they've done something that
nobody thought would happen.

1350
01:20:55,530 --> 01:20:58,110
They've done indictments in
order to win an election, they

1351
01:20:58,110 --> 01:21:02,310
call it weaponization. And the
people aren't going to stand for

1352
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:05,550
it. But yeah, they have done
something that allows the next

1353
01:21:05,550 --> 01:21:08,370
party I mean, if somebody if I
happen to be president, and I

1354
01:21:08,370 --> 01:21:11,400
see somebody who's doing well
and beating me very badly, I

1355
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,650
say, go down and indict them.
Mostly what that would be, you

1356
01:21:16,650 --> 01:21:19,200
know, they would be out of
business. They'd be out they'd

1357
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,850
be out of the election, with

1358
01:21:20,850 --> 01:21:23,610
Unknown: Trump is charged with
dozens of federal crimes. And he

1359
01:21:23,610 --> 01:21:27,180
is wrongdoing dozens of times,
in fact, for every case, every

1360
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:27,450
case.

1361
01:21:28,620 --> 01:21:30,900
Adam Curry: So if you really
want to know what's going on

1362
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:36,360
with the media, you need to go
to NPR to the show on the media,

1363
01:21:37,710 --> 01:21:41,790
Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR

1364
01:21:42,810 --> 01:21:47,070
Adam Curry: or PBS and on the
media, which was a particularly

1365
01:21:47,340 --> 01:21:51,420
annoying episode as they
completely rewrote the history

1366
01:21:51,420 --> 01:21:54,300
of podcasting. But that's an
aside, it's not all

1367
01:21:54,330 --> 01:21:57,240
John C Dvorak: that. Well, by
the way, their shows are all

1368
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,360
annoying. And the fact that they
rewrite the history of

1369
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,570
podcasting, it does not surprise
me in the least they

1370
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:06,450
Adam Curry: had me on on the
media to talk about it when this

1371
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:09,540
when it was when podcasting was
first breaking. I mean, they

1372
01:22:09,540 --> 01:22:12,180
could have they could go yes.

1373
01:22:12,450 --> 01:22:14,010
John C Dvorak: Or they could
have pulled up an old clip.

1374
01:22:15,810 --> 01:22:19,590
Adam Curry: No, because they had
to cry about all their canceled

1375
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:22,320
programming that that's what the
the piece was really about how

1376
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,650
sad it was for their colleagues.
It was a swansong

1377
01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:27,840
John C Dvorak: to me because
they threw out instead of

1378
01:22:27,870 --> 01:22:31,920
putting together one or two
really cherry podcasts that

1379
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,190
would really get some attention
and probably get some some legs.

1380
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:39,420
They rolled out 30 or 40 Crappy
podcast, which is people

1381
01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:41,970
yakking? Well, no,

1382
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,960
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, you're
wrong. They threw out 30 or 40

1383
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,950
podcasts, which we're, you know,
we're executive producers and

1384
01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:55,560
we're making $150,000 a year on
the shows each show had its own

1385
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,220
executive producer and they paid
the talent top dollar, and it

1386
01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:01,890
was scripted and that you know,
they were treating it like radio

1387
01:23:01,890 --> 01:23:06,600
plays of the past. And what
they're pissed about is well, it

1388
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,560
seems like just people who just
get on you know, personalities

1389
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,350
who talk about stuff that
they're getting all the money

1390
01:23:15,390 --> 01:23:21,270
like Joe Rogan maybes Joe Rogan
and Dan bond Gino. Anyway,

1391
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,180
John C Dvorak: so Codan Leoncino
bond

1392
01:23:24,180 --> 01:23:27,870
Adam Curry: decode bond, Gino,
Dan froomkin, you know, do damn

1393
01:23:27,870 --> 01:23:30,180
from canoes? Dan froomkin?

1394
01:23:31,170 --> 01:23:31,620
John C Dvorak: No,

1395
01:23:31,710 --> 01:23:37,380
Adam Curry: he's a douchebag.
And he works for he he? What is

1396
01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:42,420
the thing that he's on? Hold on
a second. He's, I see if I did

1397
01:23:42,420 --> 01:23:46,770
it, write it down. He's a part
of some, you know, like media

1398
01:23:46,770 --> 01:23:53,670
watchdogs site. Anyway, so damn,
from Ken. He's a prime example

1399
01:23:53,880 --> 01:24:01,560
of being all upset about the
media not not getting into

1400
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,040
Trump's face and not telling
people what he's really saying

1401
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,960
that isn't the same

1402
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,230
John C Dvorak: group. This is
what these guys do. And I would

1403
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,840
refer back to an old show he did
probably seven years ago or so

1404
01:24:16,050 --> 01:24:19,680
when that news group showed up
to secret news group about

1405
01:24:19,710 --> 01:24:21,810
journos, which

1406
01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:24,870
Adam Curry: was in the email
list

1407
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:27,420
John C Dvorak: or whatever it
Yeah, it was a list. And so

1408
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:31,200
somebody outed him and they had
to close it down. But they've

1409
01:24:31,230 --> 01:24:33,660
rolled out a bunch of their
emails, and they're all

1410
01:24:34,260 --> 01:24:38,460
conspiring against Trump. And
all these writers that should

1411
01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:42,720
be, you know, objective, but
they're not. And so this same

1412
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,780
group of people that I talked
about a minute ago that were all

1413
01:24:45,810 --> 01:24:49,650
giddy over this article and
saying, yeah, yeah, this guy's

1414
01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:50,190
one of them.

1415
01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:55,770
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's a part of
press watch. Press watch.

1416
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:59,190
Independent website previously
known as White House watch,

1417
01:24:59,310 --> 01:25:02,820
which really was Probably Trump
watch. Anyway, so here he is on

1418
01:25:02,820 --> 01:25:05,610
the media's multi clips but
entertaining unpressed.

1419
01:25:05,610 --> 01:25:07,710
Unknown: Watch your site you
wrote about some recent

1420
01:25:07,710 --> 01:25:09,930
reporting from the New York
Times in the Washington Post,

1421
01:25:10,110 --> 01:25:14,940
looking into Trump's intention
to select political appointees,

1422
01:25:15,090 --> 01:25:19,890
who will unquestioningly follow
his orders and turn the

1423
01:25:19,890 --> 01:25:23,010
prosecutorial power of the
Justice Department against his

1424
01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:27,660
political opponents. This was
the central reporting of what he

1425
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:31,890
plans to do on day one if he's
reelected, but at the same time,

1426
01:25:31,890 --> 01:25:34,590
you felt that something was
lacking from this coverage.

1427
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,580
There's two articles were
fantastic in some ways in that

1428
01:25:38,580 --> 01:25:41,490
they really looked at how would
trump govern how would trump be

1429
01:25:41,490 --> 01:25:43,860
the president, which is
something that is too often

1430
01:25:43,860 --> 01:25:46,560
overlooked in the data and doubt
incremental horsepox

1431
01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:50,370
John C Dvorak: toes what but he
hadn't read through his nose.

1432
01:25:50,370 --> 01:25:53,220
He's talking like this well, but
what is wrong with us though, is

1433
01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:55,920
that he can't breathe through.
The deviated septum is

1434
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,710
Unknown: too often overlooked in
the data in doubt, incremental

1435
01:25:58,710 --> 01:26:01,980
horsemen's coverage, but what
you're seeing is that elite

1436
01:26:01,980 --> 01:26:05,700
journalists in our top
institutions lack the vocabulary

1437
01:26:05,730 --> 01:26:08,250
and the mechanics that are
really necessary to accurately

1438
01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:11,880
cover Trump right now that they
can't bring themselves to say

1439
01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:15,210
that he is delusional. They
can't bring themselves to say

1440
01:26:15,210 --> 01:26:17,730
that he's a would be dictator.
These articles, if you read

1441
01:26:17,730 --> 01:26:21,930
them, discerning reader,
describe Trump's plans. Pretty

1442
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:25,410
alarmingly, they're getting rid
of any obstacle to the abuse of

1443
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:28,710
power and gearing up to throw
political opponents in prison,

1444
01:26:29,010 --> 01:26:32,580
preparing to unleash the
military on peaceful domestic

1445
01:26:32,580 --> 01:26:34,050
protests. Okay.

1446
01:26:36,210 --> 01:26:39,960
Adam Curry: So now he's going to
deconstruct the actual reporting

1447
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,600
by the New York Times, and I
learned a word

1448
01:26:42,660 --> 01:26:44,790
Unknown: in journalism, we often
look for what's called that

1449
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:47,250
graph, which sort of like the
summary paragraph, the

1450
01:26:47,250 --> 01:26:48,270
Adam Curry: nut graph.

1451
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,970
John C Dvorak: Is this something
that you've learned history for?

1452
01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:54,030
I've talked about the net graph
like years ago, but

1453
01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:57,720
Adam Curry: you've no I? Well, I
just think it's a nice term. I

1454
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,320
think it's a show title, not
graph. It just said, credit just

1455
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,640
sounds. It sounds dirty, not
graph. In journalism, we have a

1456
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,190
thing called the nut graph.
Let's listen to the nut.

1457
01:27:08,850 --> 01:27:10,590
John C Dvorak: I want to say
something but the nutbrown

1458
01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:15,720
please do. Not graph which is
supposed to be one paragraph

1459
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,320
somewhere in the article Hi,
usually high up meaning toward

1460
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,710
the beginning, that kind of
summarizes the entire story in

1461
01:27:22,710 --> 01:27:28,350
one graph. And it's the nut of
the whole story. This has law as

1462
01:27:28,350 --> 01:27:34,860
far as I can tell, I see when so
rarely, this is died. This is

1463
01:27:34,890 --> 01:27:38,220
not happening anymore. I don't
know anyone. Because of the

1464
01:27:38,220 --> 01:27:42,810
nature of of layouts and
computerized layouts and and

1465
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:46,800
endless stories at GM are on
forever. There's a lot of

1466
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:51,150
reasons. But I don't believe the
nut graph is in play anymore.

1467
01:27:51,150 --> 01:27:53,610
And I don't think anyone looks
for it. And I think very few

1468
01:27:53,610 --> 01:27:56,130
people write one, I think is
bold crap.

1469
01:27:56,220 --> 01:27:58,320
Unknown: In journalism, we often
look for what's called that

1470
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,140
graph, which sort of like the
summary paragraph. And this

1471
01:28:01,140 --> 01:28:03,990
case, the end of the graph was
that I have right here, quote,

1472
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,190
critics have called such ideas
dangerous and unconstitutional.

1473
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,880
That's the construction of a
story that has two sides that

1474
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:16,080
are equally valid. And one is
Person A says this. And critics

1475
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,250
say he's wrong. That's no longer
adequate construction for what's

1476
01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:23,010
going on in this political
claim. It's

1477
01:28:23,010 --> 01:28:25,890
Adam Curry: no longer adequate.
And that's not adequate anymore.

1478
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:26,700
It's not no,

1479
01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:28,590
John C Dvorak: because there's
not two sides of any story.

1480
01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:31,440
There's only one side our side.

1481
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,560
Adam Curry: So as a little
intermezzo, no, I have one more

1482
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,400
clip after this.

1483
01:28:35,730 --> 01:28:37,680
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
since you mentioned the

1484
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:42,840
newsletter, I did point out in
there, that the worst example of

1485
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,320
this and it probably exemplifies
all these clips, too, is the

1486
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:52,620
Brooks and K part. Yes. segment
where these two guys are

1487
01:28:52,620 --> 01:28:56,400
fighting each other to agree
who's in more agreement with the

1488
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,280
other guy. There's no longer and
it used to be a point

1489
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,270
counterpoint. They had a guy
from the New Republic or not the

1490
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:07,050
New Republic, but the National
Review, some some Indian guy who

1491
01:29:07,410 --> 01:29:10,860
they brought him on once and he
was really good at defending all

1492
01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:14,130
this the Republican side of all
these arguments, and it brought

1493
01:29:14,130 --> 01:29:18,180
insight into the into the
debate, but no, they can't have

1494
01:29:18,180 --> 01:29:21,660
that as one side, one side, one
side only. And that's what this

1495
01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:26,520
guy is expressing one side. No,
the other side is wrong. Not

1496
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:27,330
graph.

1497
01:29:28,860 --> 01:29:31,620
Adam Curry: I just love it's a
good turn. It's like a trans

1498
01:29:31,620 --> 01:29:37,110
term, nut graph. Anyway, so
right now we're going to get a

1499
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:39,720
quick example. They don't even
realize they're doing this,

1500
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,240
because in a minute, you know,
he'll tell you what editors must

1501
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,530
be doing. This is an example of
the type of reporting he feels

1502
01:29:46,530 --> 01:29:51,510
would be appropriate. As these
two nut graphs, the OT and the

1503
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:55,230
on the media guy and this
Frumkin Jumoke are going to get

1504
01:29:55,230 --> 01:29:58,470
all giddy over how they would
report what happened with Trump

1505
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:59,010
in the court

1506
01:29:59,070 --> 01:30:02,040
Unknown: and on Monday. He took
the stand under oath. This was a

1507
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,360
historic event

1508
01:30:04,589 --> 01:30:08,069
coverage, if you were following
it and like the live blogs on

1509
01:30:08,069 --> 01:30:11,999
social media, what you heard was
an astonishing story of somebody

1510
01:30:11,999 --> 01:30:15,389
who is completely unhinged, who
was completely delusional, who

1511
01:30:15,389 --> 01:30:18,419
was smirking, who was making
faces who was being provocative,

1512
01:30:18,419 --> 01:30:21,809
who was taunting the judge. But
then the articles all came out.

1513
01:30:21,809 --> 01:30:25,289
They said things like, Trump
defends himself and attacks

1514
01:30:25,289 --> 01:30:28,799
judge. What's essentially
happening is these articles

1515
01:30:28,799 --> 01:30:34,469
cover up for Trump's unhinged
pneus. They basically unhinged

1516
01:30:34,469 --> 01:30:35,039
eyes.

1517
01:30:35,070 --> 01:30:37,110
Adam Curry: Is that a word?
unhinged? pneus? Is this a

1518
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:40,020
journalist now a journalistic
term? What's

1519
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:43,860
Unknown: essentially happening
is these articles cover up for

1520
01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:48,870
Trump's unhinged pneus. They
basically summarize a lot of

1521
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:51,750
things that were crazy into a
few sentences that aren't crazy.

1522
01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:55,350
And so I think it's very
deceptive. I think that people

1523
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:58,200
who read the main story the next
morning had no idea what really

1524
01:30:58,200 --> 01:30:59,280
happened that day. What

1525
01:30:59,280 --> 01:30:59,940
Adam Curry: are you drinking?

1526
01:31:00,839 --> 01:31:04,229
John C Dvorak: Oh, I heard you I
heard you can't pull or just the

1527
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:07,619
plain old polar I when I if I
bring it closer to the mic and

1528
01:31:07,619 --> 01:31:10,499
open and make some serious
sound, then you know, I that's

1529
01:31:10,499 --> 01:31:14,579
the cue disempowered. I'm doing
this under my shirt away from

1530
01:31:14,579 --> 01:31:17,429
the mic a mile away, and you're
picking it up.

1531
01:31:19,290 --> 01:31:21,630
Adam Curry: You know, ever since
that operation, my ears are just

1532
01:31:21,630 --> 01:31:25,080
good. I can't help but my ears
are just sharp. Alright, let's

1533
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,990
get back to an accurate
description of what Trump was

1534
01:31:27,990 --> 01:31:28,890
doing in court.

1535
01:31:29,310 --> 01:31:31,920
Unknown: On one hand, he gets to
put on his show make it seem

1536
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,850
like it's a witch hunt, rile up
consumers of the right wing

1537
01:31:35,850 --> 01:31:41,640
media, who would be happy to see
that he was barking like a mad

1538
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:47,040
dog at the judge in general. But
for the now,

1539
01:31:47,250 --> 01:31:49,380
Adam Curry: is that an accurate
description of what he was

1540
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:53,220
doing? He was barking like a mad
dog at the judge?

1541
01:31:53,940 --> 01:31:55,560
John C Dvorak: No, but that's
the way they want, right?

1542
01:31:56,790 --> 01:31:58,680
Reporting to be from now on out

1543
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,310
Unknown: exactly barking like a
mad dog at the judge and the

1544
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:07,170
attorney general. But for the
legitimate press, it kind of

1545
01:32:07,170 --> 01:32:10,050
just seems like Well, yeah, if
you're a defendant, then you're

1546
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,470
angry. And you make a case for
yourself. Right? Right.

1547
01:32:13,530 --> 01:32:18,000
I mean, I remember watching the
coverage of the COVID pandemic

1548
01:32:18,090 --> 01:32:20,550
under Trump and he'd get up and
he'd say something completely

1549
01:32:20,550 --> 01:32:23,760
nonsensical. Reporters would
fall all over themselves trying

1550
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,710
to sort of make sense of it. And
it's this is this

1551
01:32:25,710 --> 01:32:28,740
Adam Curry: is a lie. By the
way. This is just not true. They

1552
01:32:28,770 --> 01:32:32,970
excoriated President Trump for
everything he said, during

1553
01:32:32,970 --> 01:32:35,880
COVID. Everything

1554
01:32:38,370 --> 01:32:41,100
John C Dvorak: hydroxychloroquine
is nonsensical, it's

1555
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:43,620
Adam Curry: it's horsey warmer,
he's telling you to drink

1556
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:44,400
bleach.

1557
01:32:44,490 --> 01:32:47,670
Unknown: I mean, I remember
watching the coverage of the

1558
01:32:47,670 --> 01:32:50,700
COVID pandemic under Trump and
he'd get up and he'd say

1559
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:53,550
something completely
nonsensical. The reporters would

1560
01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:55,980
fall all over themselves trying
to sort of make sense of it and

1561
01:32:55,980 --> 01:32:59,790
explain what he just said. As
opposed to reporting. Donald

1562
01:32:59,790 --> 01:33:02,070
Trump just said a bunch of stuff
that made no sense.

1563
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:05,190
Adam Curry: I think they said
that they said, they said that a

1564
01:33:05,190 --> 01:33:07,560
lot. He's unhinged your bowl.

1565
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,750
John C Dvorak: They said that
most of the time. That's why I

1566
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:11,970
have that Trump list. Yes,

1567
01:33:11,970 --> 01:33:14,010
Adam Curry: we're gonna play
that the end of show. Final,

1568
01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:18,330
final final clip. Now, Dan, from
Kim, the bastion of journalism

1569
01:33:18,330 --> 01:33:22,320
is going to explain, explain
what has to be done here. Dan,

1570
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:22,740
this feels

1571
01:33:22,740 --> 01:33:26,670
Unknown: like deja vu all over
again. Well, I mean, we've been

1572
01:33:26,670 --> 01:33:29,640
hearing warnings from press
critics for years now. But what

1573
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:33,960
Adam Curry: is with NPR is
chuckling the whole time. We've

1574
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:34,320
been here

1575
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,220
Unknown: again, I mean, we've
been hearing warnings from press

1576
01:33:38,220 --> 01:33:42,030
critics for years now about how
to cover Donald Trump in the

1577
01:33:42,030 --> 01:33:45,090
right way. Just this week,
Margaret Sullivan published a

1578
01:33:45,090 --> 01:33:49,020
piece in The Guardian titled The
public doesn't understand the

1579
01:33:49,020 --> 01:33:52,140
risks of a Trump victory. That's
the media's fault.

1580
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:53,280
Great base.

1581
01:33:53,340 --> 01:33:56,190
Right. I agree that we have
culpability here and that we

1582
01:33:56,190 --> 01:34:00,930
could do it better. But it's
also the case that facts don't

1583
01:34:00,930 --> 01:34:04,680
seem to change minds like they
used to. There have been

1584
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,550
warnings of his dangerous to our
democracy. And

1585
01:34:08,610 --> 01:34:12,720
Adam Curry: it has or have if
it's if it's plural, if it's had

1586
01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:16,740
if this warnings isn't it have
been have been warnings.

1587
01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:21,120
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry to stop
on this but they're being

1588
01:34:21,420 --> 01:34:22,920
possibly he's using your own.

1589
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:27,090
Adam Curry: He said there has
been warnings come on. That's

1590
01:34:27,090 --> 01:34:31,860
not Kruk proper English, is it?
There have been warning and we

1591
01:34:31,860 --> 01:34:33,600
said there has been warnings.

1592
01:34:33,630 --> 01:34:34,890
John C Dvorak: There has been
warning.

1593
01:34:36,540 --> 01:34:40,200
Adam Curry: I don't care. Well,
since the topic is reporting

1594
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:41,790
properly. Well,

1595
01:34:41,790 --> 01:34:44,280
John C Dvorak: you guys are
obviously off the rails already.

1596
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:48,570
Unknown: It's also the case that
facts don't seem to change minds

1597
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,560
like they used to. There have
been warnings of his dangerous

1598
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:57,150
to our democracy. And you could
argue there aren't enough but

1599
01:34:57,150 --> 01:34:59,670
perhaps they're just not
sticking to

1600
01:34:59,670 --> 01:35:02,250
the press. critics have been
saying stuff like this for years

1601
01:35:02,250 --> 01:35:05,130
now, that's absolutely correct.
And they've not been heard. But

1602
01:35:05,130 --> 01:35:09,330
I think that at some point, it
may sink in, we may have to wait

1603
01:35:09,450 --> 01:35:12,030
until next generation of
editors, the leaders of our

1604
01:35:12,030 --> 01:35:15,150
newsrooms have just gotten used
to still covering what is

1605
01:35:15,150 --> 01:35:18,630
basically an asymmetrical
political climate, as if there

1606
01:35:18,630 --> 01:35:22,200
are two equal parties involved
in the discussion. My feeling is

1607
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,310
at some point, oh, one of them
is going to wake up look in the

1608
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:29,370
mirror and say, Wait a minute,
we're not doing this, right. We

1609
01:35:29,370 --> 01:35:33,000
need to reset because we are we
are not successfully informing

1610
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,460
the American electronic
information organizations. At

1611
01:35:35,460 --> 01:35:38,880
some point, you just say, whoa,
whoa, doing isn't working.

1612
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,890
That's what I think people like
Margot. So

1613
01:35:40,890 --> 01:35:44,070
Adam Curry: because journalism,
journalism has to work. It's

1614
01:35:44,130 --> 01:35:44,820
it's not so

1615
01:35:44,820 --> 01:35:48,330
John C Dvorak: it's already left
leaning. He wants to just go all

1616
01:35:48,330 --> 01:35:51,690
the way and he says there's no
two. There's no two sides. It's

1617
01:35:51,690 --> 01:35:54,810
all Democrats. There's no such
thing as Republicans are evil.

1618
01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:57,000
No, that's what he basically is
saying.

1619
01:35:57,030 --> 01:36:00,120
Adam Curry: He says, this is not
working. What is the point? What

1620
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,730
is what is the outcome of
journalism? Is this supposed to

1621
01:36:02,730 --> 01:36:06,270
work for something? Is
journalism. So it's not

1622
01:36:06,270 --> 01:36:09,840
Unknown: changing the world?
Because we are, we are not

1623
01:36:09,870 --> 01:36:12,990
successfully informing the
American electorate. news

1624
01:36:12,990 --> 01:36:15,900
organizations at some point need
to say, Whoa, what we're doing

1625
01:36:15,930 --> 01:36:21,990
isn't working. That's Margaret
Sullivan. And Jay rose, and I

1626
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:23,370
and a whole bunch of rows

1627
01:36:23,370 --> 01:36:24,510
John C Dvorak: and Jay.

1628
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:30,570
Adam Curry: Jay Rosen, the
professor. The NYU professor of

1629
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,570
journalism, didn't get didn't
get fired.

1630
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:35,940
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Yeah, I

1631
01:36:35,940 --> 01:36:38,190
Adam Curry: think he did. Almost
second. No,

1632
01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:40,200
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Jay wrote, yes,

1633
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:47,100
Adam Curry: Jay Rosen got fired.
I think maybe I'm wrong. He'd

1634
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:49,950
John C Dvorak: land someplace in
a minute. Working.

1635
01:36:50,010 --> 01:36:52,530
Unknown: That's what I think
people like Margot Sullivan and

1636
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:58,140
Jay Rose and I and a whole bunch
of other people who are you are

1637
01:36:58,140 --> 01:37:03,060
saying, Stop what you're doing.
Realize that it's not actually

1638
01:37:03,090 --> 01:37:06,330
getting the job done up and
forming the American people and

1639
01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:07,440
figure out how else to do it.

1640
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:13,110
Adam Curry: In his mind,
informing the American people is

1641
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:17,160
propaganda propaganda using the
American people. Yes. Yeah.

1642
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,160
Well, here Leslie says she
brought it up. Well, I wanted to

1643
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,020
play my example first. Well,

1644
01:37:23,550 --> 01:37:25,290
John C Dvorak: first of all, the
beer example of what the New

1645
01:37:25,290 --> 01:37:27,720
York court case no that he
mentioned. No,

1646
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:32,820
Adam Curry: no. My example of a
journalist doing what he wants.

1647
01:37:33,930 --> 01:37:36,510
John C Dvorak: Oh, we'll play
that. But I wanted to get get

1648
01:37:36,510 --> 01:37:39,540
him on the record straight what
he said about just going on,

1649
01:37:39,540 --> 01:37:43,200
he's barking at the judge. And
what really,

1650
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,250
Adam Curry: is it one clip or
multiple clips? Just one clip,

1651
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:47,670
New York

1652
01:37:47,670 --> 01:37:49,140
John C Dvorak: case judicial
complaint?

1653
01:37:49,410 --> 01:37:51,300
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go.
allegations

1654
01:37:51,300 --> 01:37:54,450
Unknown: of misconduct against
New York judge Arthur and Goron.

1655
01:37:54,510 --> 01:37:57,570
A Congresswoman says the judge
is biased against former

1656
01:37:57,570 --> 01:38:01,650
President Trump in the financial
fraud trial. Why she says he's

1657
01:38:01,650 --> 01:38:05,370
showing clear judicial bias.
Here's our Legal Correspondent

1658
01:38:05,370 --> 01:38:07,380
Arlene Richards tonight.
Tonight,

1659
01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:11,760
Judge Arthur and Goran is on
notice that his behavior is not

1660
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,210
acceptable and the financial
fraud case that accuses former

1661
01:38:15,210 --> 01:38:18,840
President Trump and two of his
sons of inflating his net worth

1662
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,070
by as much as $2 billion.
Representative Elise Stefanik

1663
01:38:23,070 --> 01:38:26,310
says in a letter to a judicial
Ethics Commission, that the

1664
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:29,520
judge has been displaying
bizarre behavior and bad

1665
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:33,690
judgment. For example, She says
when Trump was on the stand, the

1666
01:38:33,690 --> 01:38:36,870
judge told him we are not here
to listen to what you have to

1667
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:40,680
say. And he issued a gag order
against Trump that's to phonic

1668
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:44,070
believes infringes on his
political speech rights. She

1669
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:47,670
says it's unAmerican, and that
the order restraints Trump's

1670
01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:50,940
first amendment rights, the
judge ruled that the Trumps were

1671
01:38:50,940 --> 01:38:54,480
fraudulent before the trial
began. Stefanik says he made the

1672
01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:58,410
decision without witnesses other
evidence and cross examination,

1673
01:38:58,860 --> 01:39:01,710
and that the ruling was
ridiculous because he valued

1674
01:39:01,710 --> 01:39:06,120
Trump's Mar a Lago property at
$18 million when he had sworn

1675
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,820
testimony from a real estate
agent, that it was worth

1676
01:39:08,820 --> 01:39:12,000
substantially more. Trump's
attorneys have accused the

1677
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,870
judges law clerk of influencing
his decisions, and for that the

1678
01:39:15,870 --> 01:39:19,680
judge issued a gag order against
them. Stefanik says the judge

1679
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,790
and his law clerk are donating
way too much to Democrats and

1680
01:39:23,790 --> 01:39:27,120
that it's against judicial
rules. She wants the commission

1681
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,930
to take corrective action and
concludes that judge on Goren

1682
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,360
must recuse himself from this
case

1683
01:39:36,030 --> 01:39:38,250
John C Dvorak: this funny kind
of a different report that we

1684
01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:42,300
got there from our NPR on the
media dude well let's

1685
01:39:42,300 --> 01:39:45,750
Adam Curry: go to MSNBC just to
get an idea of how it's supposed

1686
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:50,040
not that they matter to this the
point the MSNBC it doesn't

1687
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,850
matter that they don't matter
for the on the media dude. And

1688
01:39:53,850 --> 01:39:58,800
Frumkin Froome. Can that has to
be the new york times we have to

1689
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,280
corrupt the source of where it
has to come from? Here's Velshi,

1690
01:40:02,310 --> 01:40:04,800
Unknown: good people who like
things like respecting election

1691
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,400
results and rule of law not
attempting goos now have to

1692
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:12,510
assume that Republicans cannot
or more likely will not stamp

1693
01:40:12,510 --> 01:40:16,080
out the threat of Trumpism in
their party. They've never

1694
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,380
materialized for Republicans,
which was good news to democracy

1695
01:40:19,530 --> 01:40:22,830
in the 2022. midterms. My
Republicans really did get

1696
01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:25,680
trounced this week, which is
even wrong. Good news for

1697
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,430
democracy. The leader of the
Republican Party has recently

1698
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:35,520
been posting memes of the US
Capitol. Oh no on fire fire with

1699
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,960
the words. I'm coming back to
clean up this mess. That

1700
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,980
actually happened as the FBI was
in the midst of a manhunt to why

1701
01:40:44,010 --> 01:40:46,710
John C Dvorak: it actually
happened. It actually happened

1702
01:40:46,710 --> 01:40:46,920
This

1703
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,960
Adam Curry: is breaking news.
Breaking news. It actually

1704
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:49,830
happened. Hold on I

1705
01:40:50,250 --> 01:40:51,300
John C Dvorak: posted a meme.

1706
01:40:54,180 --> 01:40:57,120
Unknown: posted a meme of the
Republican Party has recently

1707
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:04,290
been posting memes of the US
Capitol on fire not on fire with

1708
01:41:04,290 --> 01:41:09,450
the words. I'm coming back to
defacto clean up this mess. That

1709
01:41:09,450 --> 01:41:13,590
actually happened as the FBI was
in the midst of a manhunt today

1710
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:17,490
for a capital rioter, a former
New Jersey National Guard police

1711
01:41:17,490 --> 01:41:20,730
sergeant, who was accused of
pepper spraying officers at the

1712
01:41:20,730 --> 01:41:22,800
Capitol on January 6, How

1713
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,650
Adam Curry: insensitive he
posted a meme of the Capitol on

1714
01:41:25,650 --> 01:41:29,070
fire as they were arresting
someone who was at the Capitol.

1715
01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:32,370
Unknown: NBC reports that
Gregory Yetman was identified in

1716
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:37,950
early 2022 by online sleuths who
go by the name sedition hunters,

1717
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:41,010
a group that has aided in the
arrests of hundreds of capital

1718
01:41:41,010 --> 01:41:42,420
rioters sedition

1719
01:41:42,420 --> 01:41:44,940
Adam Curry: hunters. I've heard
a lot of hunters thing usually

1720
01:41:44,940 --> 01:41:48,120
in the porn category, but okay,
so edition hunters, the

1721
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,570
Unknown: online sleuth said that
Yetman was seen unloading a

1722
01:41:51,570 --> 01:41:55,350
canister of chemical weapons
from behind the police line as

1723
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:58,530
officers came under attack on
January 6 to a nice use of

1724
01:41:58,530 --> 01:42:03,330
chemical weapon nice ni 21. That
image of Yetman was featured in

1725
01:42:03,330 --> 01:42:08,370
a wanted poster released by the
FBI on Thursday, before he

1726
01:42:08,370 --> 01:42:09,630
finally surrendered. Do

1727
01:42:09,630 --> 01:42:11,700
Adam Curry: you remember Kathy
Griffin with the with the cut

1728
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:14,310
off head of Trump remember that?
Remember how cool that was?

1729
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:18,030
Those days? It was fabulous.
back those days.

1730
01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:21,810
Unknown: Now Trump hyping memes
of a burning capitol building

1731
01:42:21,810 --> 01:42:25,260
names while one of His followers
was literally put in handcuffs

1732
01:42:25,260 --> 01:42:30,180
today for allegedly attacking
it. That whole thing was met

1733
01:42:30,180 --> 01:42:34,260
with crickets from Republicans.
They can't or more likely where

1734
01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:35,640
they won't stand up to it.

1735
01:42:36,690 --> 01:42:39,420
John C Dvorak: And I'd like to
say so to stand up to it's just

1736
01:42:39,420 --> 01:42:40,200
an occurrence.

1737
01:42:40,230 --> 01:42:44,670
Adam Curry: I'd like to say once
again. There's a meme that I

1738
01:42:44,670 --> 01:42:45,600
hate memes

1739
01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:49,350
John C Dvorak: This is not what
is not a meme. It's a fact.

1740
01:42:49,620 --> 01:42:55,410
Adam Curry: I don't I hate bad
memes. I would like you're the

1741
01:42:55,410 --> 01:42:59,190
same liar who told people I hate
dogs. I had to go get a dog to

1742
01:42:59,190 --> 01:43:01,710
prove you're lying. To you

1743
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:03,330
John C Dvorak: used to hate
dogs.

1744
01:43:03,450 --> 01:43:04,620
Adam Curry: I never hated took a

1745
01:43:04,620 --> 01:43:07,170
John C Dvorak: dog to bring the
love out of you.

1746
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,520
Adam Curry: I think I have to
become the biggest shitposting

1747
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,800
meme er of all time. Yes, I

1748
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,990
John C Dvorak: think that would
convince me otherwise. I

1749
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:17,910
Adam Curry: think that's gonna
have to have you would get the

1750
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:24,360
shakes. I already have the
shakes. It can't get much worse

1751
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:30,210
than it already is. I wish that
one of our no agenda memes was

1752
01:43:30,210 --> 01:43:35,340
being renamed by President meme.
But no, because most memes suck.

1753
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:39,660
And if it's a good meme, I
always boost it. Like boost

1754
01:43:39,660 --> 01:43:40,260
memes

1755
01:43:40,500 --> 01:43:44,010
John C Dvorak: you boosted
recently you've begun to boost

1756
01:43:44,010 --> 01:43:44,760
memes I

1757
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,500
Adam Curry: know. Boosted memes

1758
01:43:46,530 --> 01:43:50,010
John C Dvorak: recently you've
begun to boost memes to try to

1759
01:43:50,010 --> 01:43:53,430
change your reputation as a
meme. Okay,

1760
01:43:53,580 --> 01:43:58,410
Adam Curry: all right, you you
lie the you This is really I

1761
01:43:58,410 --> 01:44:02,070
can't believe you're doing this
to me 60 doing anything

1762
01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:05,760
John C Dvorak: to USD I have
never held show forces with a no

1763
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,080
agenda social what you set up
that are doing this to you not

1764
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,060
me I'm just agreeing with them.

1765
01:44:12,090 --> 01:44:16,980
Adam Curry: This is what I mean
to Brutus on believable,

1766
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:22,410
believable No, I only hate bad
memes and people who send out

1767
01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:26,820
1000 Memes that's all they do.
Go to twitter to do your memes

1768
01:44:27,090 --> 01:44:31,710
If all you've got is Me me me me
me me me. Go somewhere else go

1769
01:44:31,710 --> 01:44:35,040
to Mastodon dot social and send
out your Oh, I'm sorry. That

1770
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:36,510
won't let you have an account.

1771
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,080
John C Dvorak: Get a quick clip
of time clip for the anime

1772
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:41,070
thing. It was really funny.

1773
01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:45,450
Unknown: Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee
Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee

1774
01:44:46,860 --> 01:44:50,700
John C Dvorak: So, just to
change the topic for a minute,

1775
01:44:50,700 --> 01:44:50,940
let's

1776
01:44:50,940 --> 01:44:51,630
Adam Curry: please,

1777
01:44:52,110 --> 01:44:54,360
John C Dvorak: let's talk about
Jordan Peterson you talked about

1778
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,040
in the last year. Oh yeah. Well,

1779
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,100
Adam Curry: I by thought I
deconstructed the Ark and

1780
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:01,410
John C Dvorak: he did a great
job. Yeah, but I have to say,

1781
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:08,610
amazing PA. There's a Polly
Foley came out with a fairy. You

1782
01:45:08,610 --> 01:45:10,380
told me about it. Yep. No, I

1783
01:45:10,380 --> 01:45:13,410
Adam Curry: sent you the link. I
said, Look at this gory

1784
01:45:13,410 --> 01:45:15,570
John C Dvorak: ating. She's
good. But then there was an

1785
01:45:15,570 --> 01:45:18,330
earlier one wishes, which was
kind of the beginning of the

1786
01:45:18,330 --> 01:45:20,880
second one, but and it was worth
listening to because there's a

1787
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,720
couple of bits in there that
were funny. I have two Jordan

1788
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,600
Peterson clips to play. The
first one. I'm trying to think

1789
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,120
which one I should play first.
But let me play this one first,

1790
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:34,770
which is the Jordan Peterson
edit clip. And this is like, how

1791
01:45:34,770 --> 01:45:39,870
can John resist doing this edit
on this comment by Jordan

1792
01:45:39,870 --> 01:45:40,500
Peterson,

1793
01:45:40,590 --> 01:45:45,660
Unknown: January 27. I announced
on Joe Rogan's show that I had

1794
01:45:45,660 --> 01:45:48,960
been working with a group of
people in the UK and Europe and

1795
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,350
Australia and New Zealand and
Canada, and the US, South

1796
01:45:52,350 --> 01:45:53,040
Carolina,

1797
01:45:54,270 --> 01:45:57,930
Arizona, and North Dakota and
New Mexico. We're going to

1798
01:45:57,930 --> 01:46:01,500
California and Texas and New
York. We're going to South

1799
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:05,790
Dakota and Oregon and Washington
and Michigan. And then we go to

1800
01:46:05,790 --> 01:46:08,220
Washington DC to take back the
White House.

1801
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:16,470
Adam Curry: Chapeau Shep Oh Shep
Oh, author off editor. So

1802
01:46:17,310 --> 01:46:23,040
John C Dvorak: I got that out of
my system. So which I like to do

1803
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,110
about once a year with that

1804
01:46:25,110 --> 01:46:28,440
Adam Curry: was a good one. The
famous Dean scream never never

1805
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:31,920
disappoints, it always. It
always deals a winner. It's a

1806
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:32,310
winner.

1807
01:46:32,670 --> 01:46:35,220
John C Dvorak: So here is Jordan
Peterson talking about the

1808
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:39,930
future. But this is from the
poly thing is basically Jordan

1809
01:46:39,930 --> 01:46:43,170
Peterson describing what they
think should be the future of

1810
01:46:43,170 --> 01:46:47,190
mankind, you know, some
futuristic vision. And then then

1811
01:46:47,490 --> 01:46:50,670
poly comes in with a comment at
the end, which is right on the

1812
01:46:50,670 --> 01:46:53,070
money. And I have something to
say about it to a

1813
01:46:53,190 --> 01:46:55,260
Unknown: group that I'm
describing is based on this

1814
01:46:55,260 --> 01:46:58,380
principle of subsidiarity. And
the idea that we want to

1815
01:46:58,530 --> 01:47:01,680
encourage everyone to take as
much responsibility as possible

1816
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,380
at the most local level
possible, right? So take

1817
01:47:04,380 --> 01:47:07,350
responsibility for yourself
until you're good enough at

1818
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:09,540
that. So you can take
responsibility, maybe for a

1819
01:47:09,540 --> 01:47:12,180
wife. And then if you're good
enough at that, maybe you can

1820
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:15,060
extend that to some kids. And
then maybe you can serve your

1821
01:47:15,060 --> 01:47:18,750
local community. And then maybe
you can serve your state and

1822
01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:22,050
maybe if you really get good at
it, you could serve your nation,

1823
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:25,110
as you see that still a
hierarchy right. And it sounds

1824
01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:28,050
actually kinda like what we live
with right now.

1825
01:47:28,710 --> 01:47:32,250
John C Dvorak: Okay, exactly
what we live with right now. He

1826
01:47:32,250 --> 01:47:34,890
brought up nothing. This is like
telling somebody, oh, here's how

1827
01:47:34,890 --> 01:47:37,920
you do it. This is how you get a
glass of water. You see the

1828
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,740
steps that up to the house, you
take the step take you put your

1829
01:47:40,740 --> 01:47:44,040
left foot on the front, then put
his step up, up, step, step,

1830
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,220
step two to get to the top of
the steps, then open the door to

1831
01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:50,640
the house, then close the door
behind you. And then go into the

1832
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,790
kitchen, step into the kitchen,
and then turn on the faucet and

1833
01:47:53,790 --> 01:47:56,970
get yourself a drink of water
and then drink the water. This

1834
01:47:56,970 --> 01:48:02,280
is idiotic what he said. It's so
Ovid this is this is not

1835
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,700
anything new. It's were brought
out something in her

1836
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:10,530
discussions, which was that he
lost his memory for a whole

1837
01:48:10,530 --> 01:48:15,870
month while he was in Russia.
No, I didn't know this. But

1838
01:48:15,870 --> 01:48:19,800
during his treatment for his
drug addiction, which was cured,

1839
01:48:20,190 --> 01:48:23,490
and it was traumatic in his in
Russia, there's a month of his

1840
01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:26,850
life. He doesn't remember
something is wrong with Jordan

1841
01:48:26,850 --> 01:48:27,600
Peterson.

1842
01:48:31,110 --> 01:48:34,020
Adam Curry: What's wrong as he's
no longer entertaining? I mean,

1843
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:37,350
I'll sit there and I'll watch it
from that

1844
01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:39,420
John C Dvorak: perspective. Yes,
but I think there's something

1845
01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:41,940
wrong wrong. But yes, yes.
You're right about

1846
01:48:41,940 --> 01:48:44,490
Adam Curry: that. Well, this is
this is a distinct difference

1847
01:48:44,490 --> 01:48:47,550
now was it after? I don't think
it was after the the drug

1848
01:48:47,550 --> 01:48:51,510
addiction because and it was
barbituates you know, when she

1849
01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:54,720
started taking because his wife
Ali and basically yeah, there's

1850
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,140
a lot of issues and barbiturates
a hard man, it's hard to get off

1851
01:48:58,140 --> 01:49:02,730
of those. So and props to his
daughter for saving his life and

1852
01:49:02,970 --> 01:49:06,030
becoming a carnivore, which also
seems to have saved his life,

1853
01:49:06,030 --> 01:49:09,930
all kinds of things. And so I'm
not discrediting or discounting

1854
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:15,570
any of that. But I would say the
minute he became part of the

1855
01:49:15,570 --> 01:49:20,730
daily wire, which in my mind,
this is now am 5am CANDACE

1856
01:49:20,730 --> 01:49:26,490
Owens, the Jordan Peterson at
the blaze as well, you know,

1857
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:33,990
what's his name? The Rubin
Rubin. The other guy. Had the

1858
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:34,230
black

1859
01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:36,480
John C Dvorak: guy, the black
and black guy, that big black

1860
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:39,810
guy who can't remember his name
because nobody listens to his

1861
01:49:39,810 --> 01:49:40,590
stuff anymore.

1862
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:46,620
Adam Curry: Yeah. Megyn Kelly,
Dan bond Geno code Bungie No.

1863
01:49:47,220 --> 01:49:49,200
John C Dvorak: Code Bungie No.

1864
01:49:50,130 --> 01:49:52,770
Adam Curry: What's his name? But
j is Jason Whitlock?

1865
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:54,210
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with like,
that's

1866
01:49:54,210 --> 01:49:57,720
Adam Curry: the black guy or
something. Something is wrong

1867
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:02,760
with all of this. He really Is
there something off and I think,

1868
01:50:03,390 --> 01:50:03,780
you know,

1869
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:05,670
John C Dvorak: to contact and
argue better than what you're

1870
01:50:05,670 --> 01:50:11,850
saying because I felt this way
and the one that when I first

1871
01:50:11,850 --> 01:50:14,610
got triggered by it was Rubin
because I always thought Dave

1872
01:50:14,610 --> 01:50:18,330
Rubin was great when he when he
was was great when he was doing

1873
01:50:18,330 --> 01:50:20,790
his thing in that little room
where the two people sat across

1874
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:26,190
the table. And then all of a
sudden he became lame. Yep, yes,

1875
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:31,770
Adam Curry: capital L is very
odd and I think he's competent.

1876
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,970
Not Rubin, but Jordan Peterson
is compensating with a

1877
01:50:35,970 --> 01:50:41,100
symmetrical Joker light jackets.
What is up with that?

1878
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,190
John C Dvorak: That means the
asymmetrical jacket is some sort

1879
01:50:44,190 --> 01:50:44,790
of giveaway.

1880
01:50:44,820 --> 01:50:47,940
Adam Curry: I'm wacky. Look at
me. I'm wacky. I mean, what

1881
01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:49,470
John C Dvorak: mounish Did you

1882
01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:50,610
Adam Curry: I sent you a
picture.

1883
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,120
John C Dvorak: I'm a clown. Look
at me. Does Oh, he's missing his

1884
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,330
big feet. And you know, red
nose? No, he actually looks like

1885
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,280
a meet up with Koseki P looks

1886
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,970
Adam Curry: like the Joker. It
does look like the Joker. If you

1887
01:51:02,970 --> 01:51:05,520
look at that most recent
interview, I sent you a picture

1888
01:51:06,450 --> 01:51:06,720
you

1889
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,760
John C Dvorak: did and it was a
picture of the Joker and it just

1890
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:14,010
exactly it just positioned the
same way. It just look like the

1891
01:51:14,010 --> 01:51:15,900
Joker. He looks like the Joker.

1892
01:51:15,900 --> 01:51:18,330
Adam Curry: He's faced
everything and he's wearing

1893
01:51:18,330 --> 01:51:21,600
those wacky asymmetrical
jackets. But what is the mess

1894
01:51:21,660 --> 01:51:26,520
look when I go on a show like
Rogen or Glenn Beck and Glenn

1895
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:32,580
Beck you know he also has a part
of this problem this something

1896
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:37,620
although it's not I think it's
business for him but these other

1897
01:51:37,620 --> 01:51:42,750
people it's mental and but I
think about what I wear you know

1898
01:51:42,750 --> 01:51:45,600
I discuss it with my wife what
she what I wear last time which

1899
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:49,230
they wear what looks good in the
set that that jacket the

1900
01:51:49,230 --> 01:51:52,110
Petersons wearing it doesn't
look good in any set.

1901
01:51:52,620 --> 01:51:55,830
John C Dvorak: No, it looks
crazy it one that's not the only

1902
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:59,610
one he's got another one's got
leather on one side. Yes, he's

1903
01:51:59,610 --> 01:52:01,650
got three or four of these
things. It's not like he's got

1904
01:52:01,650 --> 01:52:03,960
that one crazy jacket. Why?

1905
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:07,350
Adam Curry: Why why? I don't
know but and I it will be easy

1906
01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:11,940
to say Oh, once you get paid
then it's easy. In fact, I think

1907
01:52:11,940 --> 01:52:14,550
the only person I was talking
with Mo about this yesterday,

1908
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:20,670
the one person who may be able
but she has to she has to man up

1909
01:52:20,820 --> 01:52:24,780
is Candace Owens. She's sucked
into this she's smarter than

1910
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:28,260
she's lost. She needs to get out
she needs to get out she used to

1911
01:52:28,260 --> 01:52:30,600
get away from Yeah, I think
you're right.

1912
01:52:30,990 --> 01:52:35,880
John C Dvorak: No she's she's
lost there are other women who

1913
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:40,380
have kind of avoided it in some
fashion. I see Dana what's her

1914
01:52:40,380 --> 01:52:44,490
name the brunette she's kind of
like you know stayed away and

1915
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,390
and then Tammy Lara and whatever
her name is. Oh, yeah, it

1916
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:48,900
evolved.

1917
01:52:48,930 --> 01:52:53,820
Adam Curry: Oh no, but nah. Tamp
not Tammy. Tammy Lauren she's

1918
01:52:53,850 --> 01:52:59,430
now she's lost that she's no
good I don't know ma'am this

1919
01:52:59,490 --> 01:53:01,890
there's something going on with
the coop

1920
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:05,730
John C Dvorak: This is a classic
coops co opted co option to get

1921
01:53:05,730 --> 01:53:09,510
co opted Yep, you pulled in now
all of a sudden you got suits

1922
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:12,120
telling you what to do or you
get too much money and you

1923
01:53:12,150 --> 01:53:16,650
you're caring you're worried
about losing the stream of money

1924
01:53:16,650 --> 01:53:21,420
because it's so much or I don't
know I mean, we could have known

1925
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:24,960
by you just saying I saying yes
to Glenn Beck when he asked you

1926
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,420
to become one of these guys,
which I said you could have

1927
01:53:27,420 --> 01:53:29,640
reported back but I get the
feeling you wouldn't have

1928
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,630
reported back. I would have been
lost. Gibbon lost just like the

1929
01:53:33,630 --> 01:53:37,770
rest have gone sucked into the
whole sucked into something

1930
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,840
maybe they don't know maybe
they're being drugged.

1931
01:53:40,740 --> 01:53:46,110
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's a
bug. And you get into a meal to

1932
01:53:46,260 --> 01:53:49,830
meal you. So you you lose
objectivity

1933
01:53:50,130 --> 01:53:52,620
John C Dvorak: and get a meal
you to adapt to a meal you is

1934
01:53:52,620 --> 01:53:54,000
not instantaneous.

1935
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:57,360
Adam Curry: Now, but it didn't
happen overnight. This is what

1936
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:00,480
John C Dvorak: seems to have not
took

1937
01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:06,030
Adam Curry: a while. It took a
while for him. I took a while. I

1938
01:54:06,030 --> 01:54:09,000
think anything that's on locals
that Trump that's probably a

1939
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,850
slower burn but the locals crowd

1940
01:54:12,210 --> 01:54:15,960
John C Dvorak: you know, I have
yet to go into I refuse to get

1941
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,410
involved with that. This is like
a paywall. You want to go to

1942
01:54:19,410 --> 01:54:22,470
locals and go do your own thing?
Go ahead. That's not gonna pay

1943
01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:23,760
any attention to it. But that's

1944
01:54:23,790 --> 01:54:28,440
Adam Curry: Glenn Greenwald is
on locals. Yep. Ty EB I think is

1945
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:31,230
in some form of it. Yeah. Well,
these are the guys they admit

1946
01:54:31,260 --> 01:54:34,290
initially they were with
substack substack lost their

1947
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:38,160
funding they actually tried to
do of crowdfunding round because

1948
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:39,960
whatever they're doing wasn't
working.

1949
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:42,450
John C Dvorak: I think they were
paying those guys too much way

1950
01:54:42,450 --> 01:54:43,950
too much. And then

1951
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:49,320
Adam Curry: and Greenwald, anti
EB took their subscribers to

1952
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,350
locals, which was I don't know
if that was part of a deal. I

1953
01:54:52,350 --> 01:54:52,650
remember

1954
01:54:52,650 --> 01:54:55,080
John C Dvorak: Tina, maybe you
can take your subscribers off of

1955
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,270
substack. Well, Tina

1956
01:54:57,270 --> 01:55:02,340
Adam Curry: got an email and it
said you're subscription to Mata

1957
01:55:02,370 --> 01:55:06,990
Eb, on locals is about to renew.
And she said they just took my

1958
01:55:06,990 --> 01:55:08,280
credit card over to

1959
01:55:09,690 --> 01:55:12,150
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know you can do that hard to do

1960
01:55:12,150 --> 01:55:15,990
because those credit cards were
should have been. I don't know

1961
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:18,210
how you. I don't know. I don't
know. I've never

1962
01:55:18,300 --> 01:55:22,080
Adam Curry: anyway, but my point
is there's something when you

1963
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:27,210
join these clubs, which is the
antithesis of podcasting and

1964
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,540
believe me, we learned didn't we
John, we learned with POD pod

1965
01:55:30,540 --> 01:55:34,950
show me via we learned because
what happens is you wind up a

1966
01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:37,590
slave to somebody whether it's

1967
01:55:37,620 --> 01:55:40,290
John C Dvorak: advertised and
you get to complain a lot.

1968
01:55:43,890 --> 01:55:45,090
Adam Curry: Why do you even say
that?

1969
01:55:46,410 --> 01:55:48,840
John C Dvorak: That's what they
do. Everybody all the podcasters

1970
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:52,440
I worked at by show, they
complained. I complained

1971
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,260
constantly. And I'm reminded
again, if I would bring this

1972
01:55:55,260 --> 01:55:59,100
story up, I told you before
we're Neil Rubin King did this

1973
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:02,880
book for McGraw Hill. It was
called the Dawson. They can I

1974
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,080
think was the name of that told
us

1975
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:09,360
Adam Curry: Austin I can
remember I do remember Dawson

1976
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:10,590
the cam. Were you a part of
that?

1977
01:56:10,740 --> 01:56:13,470
John C Dvorak: That Dawson
cancer was a book about how to

1978
01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:16,650
use dos? It was It may have been
windows but I think it was DOS

1979
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:17,430
was this awesome.

1980
01:56:17,910 --> 01:56:18,540
Adam Curry: Product? Did

1981
01:56:18,540 --> 01:56:20,820
John C Dvorak: you package this?
No. I was not involved with the

1982
01:56:20,820 --> 01:56:23,760
DOS in the can. All right. But I
do it. But I was involved in

1983
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:27,120
McGraw Hill at the time. I had
an imprint there. And so Dawson

1984
01:56:27,150 --> 01:56:32,550
Ken came out and it was a it was
a can that had a book in it. And

1985
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:35,250
you had to open the can with a
can opener to get the book out.

1986
01:56:35,250 --> 01:56:39,300
And it was Dawson akan Hello,
very funny. But of course, we'll

1987
01:56:39,300 --> 01:56:44,190
put why this crazy product with
floppies no floppies now he

1988
01:56:44,190 --> 01:56:49,140
couldn't get a floppy in the
can. So so so. So the book was a

1989
01:56:49,140 --> 01:56:54,030
flop. And all you heard from
Neil Rubin King was complaints

1990
01:56:54,060 --> 01:56:57,480
then I putting enough marketing
money behind Mike Dawson at

1991
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:01,560
Kent. And it was just one thing
after another and so and so you

1992
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,050
work in a publishing company you
hear nothing but complaining,

1993
01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:06,210
complaining, complaining and I
give him my book enough

1994
01:57:06,210 --> 01:57:10,470
attention. And then I go to MI
VO and the same thing every

1995
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:13,350
podcasters are bitching and
moaning about how they're not

1996
01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:17,700
getting enough credit and nobody
cares. It was horrible.

1997
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:23,730
Adam Curry: It's so true. It's
this is that's why podcast

1998
01:57:23,730 --> 01:57:28,860
networks don't work. Because any
kind of just you cannot monetize

1999
01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:33,150
the network. Spotify spent a
billion dollars trying to prove

2000
01:57:33,150 --> 01:57:38,190
it. And they did. But they
proved that it doesn't work. Oh

2001
01:57:38,190 --> 01:57:41,730
my goodness. I am John. I'm so
happy with what we're doing. I

2002
01:57:41,730 --> 01:57:43,980
love my job. I love doing Yeah,

2003
01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:46,890
John C Dvorak: all we have to do
is complain to each other. We

2004
01:57:46,890 --> 01:57:50,010
don't even do that. We can do it
on the show. It's content.

2005
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:54,090
Valuable. It's

2006
01:57:54,090 --> 01:57:56,700
Adam Curry: time for an update.
There we go. Everybody did

2007
01:57:56,700 --> 01:57:59,040
something special. Here she is.

2008
01:58:00,420 --> 01:58:04,620
Unknown: Hi, everyone. Dr. Mandy
Cohen from CDC. We are only two

2009
01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:08,040
weeks away from Thanksgiving.
And I want to remind you to take

2010
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:12,540
steps right now to protect you
and your family from COVID. Flu

2011
01:58:12,570 --> 01:58:16,950
and RSV because I know many
folks are thinking well, I had

2012
01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:21,000
COVID. I've already been
vaccinated. But this new COVID

2013
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:25,770
vaccine is to match the changes
in the virus. It's updated and

2014
01:58:25,770 --> 01:58:30,180
restore protection that does
decrease over time. It's similar

2015
01:58:30,180 --> 01:58:32,850
to the flu shot you get every
year. Can you imagine

2016
01:58:32,850 --> 01:58:36,450
Adam Curry: if Windows said it's
time to update your Windows to

2017
01:58:36,450 --> 01:58:41,220
Windows 12. It will reduce F
activity over time, but over

2018
01:58:41,220 --> 01:58:44,460
time your windows won't work as
well. Which by the way is the

2019
01:58:44,460 --> 01:58:45,120
truth.

2020
01:58:46,260 --> 01:58:47,670
John C Dvorak: model it after.
Yes.

2021
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:49,890
Adam Curry: This is exactly what
an iPhone

2022
01:58:49,890 --> 01:58:51,120
John C Dvorak: is a good
example. Yeah.

2023
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:53,850
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, your
battery life will go stuff will

2024
01:58:53,850 --> 01:58:57,750
get slow. That's when it's time
for updated. It's updated for

2025
01:58:57,750 --> 01:58:59,520
this world of yours today.

2026
01:58:59,550 --> 01:59:02,340
Unknown: The updated COVID-19
vaccine is recommended for

2027
01:59:02,340 --> 01:59:06,060
everyone six months and older
and it's free for everyone,

2028
01:59:06,300 --> 01:59:10,620
either through through your
insurance or through a CDC

2029
01:59:10,620 --> 01:59:14,250
vaccine program are available in
pharmacies and health centers

2030
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:18,210
around the country. These
vaccines are safe safe, they've

2031
01:59:18,210 --> 01:59:19,770
been through extensive notice

2032
01:59:19,770 --> 01:59:22,830
Adam Curry: they've dropped the
effective part of the slogan why

2033
01:59:22,830 --> 01:59:23,940
bother? It's just

2034
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,240
Unknown: scenes are safe. So
we've been through extensive

2035
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:31,410
safety review through both CDC
and FDA independent committees,

2036
01:59:31,650 --> 01:59:35,370
academic groups and more family
have concerns please talk to

2037
01:59:35,370 --> 01:59:38,310
your doctor or nurse
practitioner provider. Let's all

2038
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:42,180
make sure to have a happy and
healthy Thanksgiving. Now's the

2039
01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:45,150
time to get your shots to better
protect you from serious illness

2040
01:59:45,150 --> 01:59:48,660
from these viruses. Make your
plan to get your COVID and flu

2041
01:59:48,660 --> 01:59:50,790
shot today. Be well all right

2042
01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:53,670
Adam Curry: be well everybody
stay safe and well.

2043
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:56,700
John C Dvorak: I have the
alternate approach to selling

2044
01:59:56,700 --> 02:00:01,980
vaccines. Well the loop The
lunatic Keith Olbermann

2045
02:00:02,010 --> 02:00:09,270
Adam Curry: oh god what it does
he have a home is he is there I

2046
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:12,330
think okay, I've seen this clip
I think it's old I don't think

2047
02:00:12,330 --> 02:00:15,450
it's a recent clip but I believe
this to be years old

2048
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,300
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
it's years old Yeah, I

2049
02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:19,710
Adam Curry: think it is let me
see

2050
02:00:19,740 --> 02:00:21,540
John C Dvorak: well I don't want
to play at the end of his years

2051
02:00:21,540 --> 02:00:24,570
old I thought it was fairly
recent because his hair is so

2052
02:00:24,570 --> 02:00:25,260
gray

2053
02:00:25,350 --> 02:00:27,960
Adam Curry: let me let me just
let me just check Olbermann

2054
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:33,900
check because I'm when I watched
him like this unhinged

2055
02:00:34,230 --> 02:00:36,960
Olbermann. That's

2056
02:00:36,990 --> 02:00:38,910
John C Dvorak: That's all now
you're being redundant.

2057
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:42,690
Adam Curry: Let's play it just
in case people it may be old,

2058
02:00:42,690 --> 02:00:43,800
but it's worth it. It

2059
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,900
John C Dvorak: may be also an
oldie but a goodie. I've never

2060
02:00:45,900 --> 02:00:46,710
seen it before.

2061
02:00:47,130 --> 02:00:51,570
Unknown: I understand cobbling
booster shot mission

2062
02:00:51,570 --> 02:00:56,700
accomplished. And it is it is
time to stop coddling them. The

2063
02:00:56,700 --> 02:00:59,250
ones who won't get the damn shot
already.

2064
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:01,500
Adam Curry: This is why I
thought it was old because

2065
02:01:01,500 --> 02:01:05,130
that's no longer the mean the
damn shot already that that's

2066
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:07,980
that's that's I agree with you
has

2067
02:01:07,980 --> 02:01:09,810
John C Dvorak: an old sound to
it not in play. And

2068
02:01:09,810 --> 02:01:14,070
Unknown: our first step you and
I is symbols. The language we

2069
02:01:14,070 --> 02:01:17,520
use. We call these people
vaccine hesitant vaccine

2070
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:21,660
skeptics anti Vax, we say
they're protesting mandates and

2071
02:01:21,660 --> 02:01:24,960
passports. They're making a
personal choice. They're waiting

2072
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,480
for more information. They're
making a medical decision.

2073
02:01:27,810 --> 02:01:32,700
Bullshit. They're afraid.
They're afraid to get

2074
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:37,290
vaccinated. Stop feeding their
egos about what they're doing,

2075
02:01:37,290 --> 02:01:41,640
stop legitimizing it. Vaccine
hesitant. They're afraid.

2076
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:46,200
Vaccine skeptics. They're
afraid. Anti backs. They're

2077
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:50,310
afraid. They're protesting
mandates and passports they are

2078
02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:54,120
afraid old. There may be a
personal trainer afraid alright.

2079
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:54,480
Oh,

2080
02:01:54,510 --> 02:01:58,230
Adam Curry: I can't listen to
it. It's old. I'm I want to talk

2081
02:01:58,230 --> 02:02:03,300
about modern. This is not a
modern way to sell vaccines. No.

2082
02:02:03,810 --> 02:02:07,470
The, by the way. That was Dr.
Mandy. She is the Director of

2083
02:02:07,470 --> 02:02:09,630
CDC. She's the new director.
Yes.

2084
02:02:09,660 --> 02:02:14,550
John C Dvorak: She's also a
sorority sister and Kappa and

2085
02:02:14,550 --> 02:02:17,730
probably and she's and she's
going to be shopping this

2086
02:02:17,730 --> 02:02:18,360
afternoon.

2087
02:02:19,110 --> 02:02:22,350
Adam Curry: This is the way you
sell vaccines. Everybody knows

2088
02:02:22,350 --> 02:02:26,700
the way to get the market jacked
is to create scarcity,

2089
02:02:26,730 --> 02:02:28,950
Unknown: the turnout of the
nationwide rise in cases of the

2090
02:02:28,950 --> 02:02:32,700
respiratory illness RSV, a
children's hospital in Fort

2091
02:02:32,700 --> 02:02:37,320
Worth, Texas says it's in 500
patients a day as cases climb.

2092
02:02:37,980 --> 02:02:40,380
Adam Curry: Okay, I just wanted
to stop here because I believe

2093
02:02:40,380 --> 02:02:46,260
this to be a cleverly written
script. She did not say that

2094
02:02:46,260 --> 02:02:51,360
this hospital in Texas wherever
it was, is seeing 500 cases of

2095
02:02:51,390 --> 02:02:57,750
RSV a day. She just says they're
seeing 500 patients a day. And

2096
02:02:57,750 --> 02:03:01,890
then she goes into RSV I think
this is a commercial. And I

2097
02:03:01,890 --> 02:03:05,250
think they put as a data ad it's
well it's a native ad and they

2098
02:03:05,250 --> 02:03:08,460
put this in at the beginning
because this doesn't ring true.

2099
02:03:08,490 --> 02:03:10,590
Unknown: I want to turn now to
the nationwide rise in cases of

2100
02:03:10,590 --> 02:03:14,460
the respiratory illness RSV. At
Children's Hospital in Fort

2101
02:03:14,460 --> 02:03:17,790
Worth, Texas says it's in 500
patients a day

2102
02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:20,130
Adam Curry: away. I'm at the
Children's Hospital in Fort

2103
02:03:20,130 --> 02:03:25,710
Worth, Texas. Is that is that
our boy Hotep Oh, it might be

2104
02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:28,380
that might be our boy Hotep now
think about so they're seeing

2105
02:03:28,380 --> 02:03:31,290
500 patients a day. Well, of
course they see 500 budges

2106
02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:34,200
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just for
broken arms for all kinds of

2107
02:03:34,470 --> 02:03:34,830
turnout

2108
02:03:34,830 --> 02:03:37,200
Unknown: of the nationwide rise
in cases of the respiratory

2109
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,860
illness RSV. A Children's
Hospital in Fort Worth, Texas

2110
02:03:40,860 --> 02:03:45,630
says it seems 500 patients a day
as cases climb best case size of

2111
02:03:45,630 --> 02:03:48,810
a new antibody shot designed to
protect infants from the virus

2112
02:03:48,810 --> 02:03:52,740
are not keeping up with demand.
CBS has Mark Strassman reports

2113
02:03:52,740 --> 02:03:55,260
and tonight's Healthwatch
parents and hard hit areas like

2114
02:03:55,260 --> 02:03:59,940
Georgia are scrambling to find
the life saving shots. Little

2115
02:03:59,940 --> 02:04:00,540
Lucas sir and

2116
02:04:00,540 --> 02:04:01,860
his mother was lucky.

2117
02:04:02,070 --> 02:04:05,880
Adam Curry: Why? Why didn't they
do the story about that

2118
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:09,570
Children's Hospital in Fort
Worth? Now they have to go to

2119
02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:09,900
your

2120
02:04:09,900 --> 02:04:13,620
John C Dvorak: jumping to
Georgia. Yeah, can I windy? Like

2121
02:04:13,620 --> 02:04:17,370
I said until a couple of years
ago I've never heard of Rs in

2122
02:04:17,370 --> 02:04:21,000
fact not even that I think for
the last two years maybe? Yeah,

2123
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:25,320
I've heard it never heard of
RSV. It's now a life saving shot

2124
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,740
when did the shot never existed?
And nobody talked about people

2125
02:04:28,740 --> 02:04:33,180
dropping dead in the streets
from RSV RSV has bullcrap

2126
02:04:33,210 --> 02:04:36,930
Adam Curry: RSV has been around
for a long time you don't know

2127
02:04:36,930 --> 02:04:41,220
because you don't have little
children. Tina also says John's

2128
02:04:41,220 --> 02:04:43,470
full of crap. It's been around
for a long time but you're

2129
02:04:43,470 --> 02:04:49,500
correct that this hype about it
has never been around that I had

2130
02:04:49,500 --> 02:04:49,830
little

2131
02:04:49,830 --> 02:04:53,850
John C Dvorak: children in my
day and I never heard of RSV

2132
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:57,750
parents and hard hit areas like
Georgia wait. Tina is obviously

2133
02:04:57,750 --> 02:05:01,530
been brainwashed somewhere along
the line. Hey in RSV was made

2134
02:05:01,530 --> 02:05:05,790
she was made it, it was good.
She got it was we've had many

2135
02:05:05,790 --> 02:05:11,370
parents told about it No. But
before her if you go predate

2136
02:05:11,430 --> 02:05:15,780
Tina, in terms of like women,
they've nobody heard about it.

2137
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:22,290
Okay, she is RSV generation one.
Case zero. Okay.

2138
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,440
Adam Curry: Well, I'll take
that. But we have had parents

2139
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:30,600
play with boots on the ground
reports that yes, it is a thing,

2140
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,150
but it's not the thing that
they're making it out to be.

2141
02:05:34,830 --> 02:05:40,620
What can we accept that? It's
just a no. Okay. John

2142
02:05:40,650 --> 02:05:44,010
dvorak.org. Don't email me about
your RSVP

2143
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:48,090
John C Dvorak: for snow. I'm
saying no to is not a thing. It

2144
02:05:48,090 --> 02:05:52,380
never was a thing. This is just
hype to sell vaccine. Well, yes.

2145
02:05:52,410 --> 02:05:54,780
Adam Curry: And they're doing it
now by saying there's not enough

2146
02:05:54,780 --> 02:05:57,060
vaccines. Where have we seen
that done before

2147
02:05:57,090 --> 02:05:59,700
Unknown: reports and tonight
conflict parents and hard hit

2148
02:05:59,700 --> 02:06:02,760
areas like Georgia are
scrambling to find the life

2149
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:05,190
saving shots. Little Lucas

2150
02:06:05,190 --> 02:06:08,910
siRNAs mother was lucky to get
him an RSV shot while his

2151
02:06:08,910 --> 02:06:13,980
pediatrician still had it in
stock. A lot of like in the news

2152
02:06:13,980 --> 02:06:17,100
and babies get real sick. So I
was like, might as well just do

2153
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:21,300
it. Demand for the antibody shot
has been unprecedented. So

2154
02:06:21,300 --> 02:06:24,660
popular. The CDC is now
recommending pediatricians like

2155
02:06:24,660 --> 02:06:25,830
Dr. Jennifer, it's so

2156
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:30,750
Adam Curry: popular John. It's
so popular at $1,000 a pop which

2157
02:06:30,780 --> 02:06:34,020
insurance doesn't cover it's so
popular shoe

2158
02:06:34,140 --> 02:06:36,930
Unknown: give it only to their
most vulnerable patients,

2159
02:06:37,050 --> 02:06:40,530
infants younger than six months
and those with underlying

2160
02:06:40,530 --> 02:06:43,350
conditions that put them at
risk. We're hoping

2161
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:46,470
it's going to really cut down
and hospitalizations as well as

2162
02:06:46,470 --> 02:06:49,380
complications like pneumonia or
even death. Why are they

2163
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,770
particularly susceptible? Their
immune systems aren't developed

2164
02:06:52,770 --> 02:06:55,410
yet. So the second thing is that
their airways are a little bit

2165
02:06:55,410 --> 02:06:56,100
smaller.

2166
02:06:56,160 --> 02:07:00,240
RSV symptoms include a high
fever, worsening cough and

2167
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:04,020
trouble breathing symptoms that
can lead to hospitalization, and

2168
02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:07,950
even death. Chris Comstock 20
month old daughter Adeline got

2169
02:07:07,950 --> 02:07:12,900
RSV. In September, she spent
nine days fighting for her life

2170
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:13,950
in the hospital.

2171
02:07:14,070 --> 02:07:18,870
I remember my wife and I were
standing in the hospital room

2172
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:21,810
crying going, what do you do? I
have zero control sitting in

2173
02:07:21,810 --> 02:07:26,400
that hospital room knowing I can
do nothing to help my child and

2174
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:30,420
then watching her walk and run
and get back to health again.

2175
02:07:30,810 --> 02:07:34,710
You can't put a price tag on the
thankfulness that we have. Dr.

2176
02:07:34,710 --> 02:07:34,980
Xu

2177
02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:39,090
says with cases still rising in
Georgia, she's almost out of

2178
02:07:39,090 --> 02:07:42,720
shots. Mark Strassman, CBS News,
Atlanta.

2179
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:46,500
John C Dvorak: Here I want to I
gotta read this to you. This

2180
02:07:46,500 --> 02:07:52,170
from the CDC. RSV surveillance
and research six to 10,000

2181
02:07:52,170 --> 02:07:56,130
deaths among adults 65 years and
older. So that's where the real

2182
02:07:56,130 --> 02:08:01,710
problem is. 300 To 300 deaths in
children younger than five.

2183
02:08:01,830 --> 02:08:05,730
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I'm
agreeing with you. Yeah,

2184
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:08,640
John C Dvorak: well listen to
this. RSV, responsible for one

2185
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:14,280
in 50 child deaths between
100,200 1000 babies die from the

2186
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:20,340
virus every year. According to
CNN, Bill and Melinda Gates

2187
02:08:20,340 --> 02:08:25,860
Foundation, RSV causes more than
100,000 deaths in children under

2188
02:08:25,860 --> 02:08:29,700
five each year. Now how does
that sound when the CDC says

2189
02:08:29,700 --> 02:08:33,600
it's like 100? They have
100,000? Yeah, what what's wrong

2190
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:34,770
with this picture?

2191
02:08:35,370 --> 02:08:37,950
Adam Curry: No, it's not wrong.
You're You're correct. I'm just

2192
02:08:37,950 --> 02:08:41,820
saying you can't say it doesn't
exist or it's a hoax. But people

2193
02:08:41,820 --> 02:08:45,720
have been and their children go
to the especially prematurely

2194
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:50,010
born children. We have a lot of
children with immune disorders

2195
02:08:50,010 --> 02:08:53,850
because of I don't know,
previous vaccines possibly is

2196
02:08:53,850 --> 02:08:58,590
all kinds of stuff going on. But
yes, it's it is a hoax. Okay,

2197
02:08:58,590 --> 02:09:02,970
I'll give you that. But now I'm
gonna give you the real hoax.

2198
02:09:03,660 --> 02:09:06,600
John C Dvorak: But I'm now I'm
just kind of curious why one

2199
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:11,370
group, the CDC says it's like
100 to 300 total. And you have

2200
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:16,290
Bill and Melinda Gates and CNN
saying is 100,000 to 300,000.

2201
02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:16,920
Why,

2202
02:09:17,010 --> 02:09:19,020
Adam Curry: seriously, you're
asking me Why do you think that

2203
02:09:19,020 --> 02:09:22,770
there's an investment somewhere
in an RSV vaccination company,

2204
02:09:23,220 --> 02:09:24,540
we know why this

2205
02:09:25,770 --> 02:09:27,660
John C Dvorak: can't be this
sort of corruption,

2206
02:09:28,710 --> 02:09:35,460
Adam Curry: test gambling going
on there. Okay. So I got to read

2207
02:09:35,460 --> 02:09:36,360
this article to you.

2208
02:09:38,700 --> 02:09:41,460
John C Dvorak: I'm appalled. By
the way by these days, grepping

2209
02:09:41,490 --> 02:09:41,970
numbers,

2210
02:09:42,090 --> 02:09:47,160
Adam Curry: you should be you
should be. So we have a big

2211
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:56,220
issue with excess deaths amongst
newborns. And everyone's

2212
02:09:56,220 --> 02:10:03,180
baffled, take care. They can't
figure out what this could be.

2213
02:10:03,540 --> 02:10:07,560
And you'll look at story after
story after story. And they'll

2214
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:13,980
come up with well, you know,
RSV, the flu, you know, what is

2215
02:10:13,980 --> 02:10:17,580
the obvious thing that they omit
from all of their guesswork?

2216
02:10:19,410 --> 02:10:26,280
COVID vaccinations? And what?
Yes, that is not in any of the

2217
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:32,640
stories, not a single story will
list COVID vaccinations or any

2218
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:38,790
vaccination as a possibility for
although the remember,

2219
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:42,900
correlation is not causation. It
lines up perfectly. But

2220
02:10:42,900 --> 02:10:47,070
correlation is not causation. We
have children being born who are

2221
02:10:47,070 --> 02:10:50,130
weak, we have children being
born who prematurely who are

2222
02:10:50,130 --> 02:10:58,980
weak, we have a huge crisis
amongst women, who I mean, we

2223
02:10:58,980 --> 02:11:03,240
don't have to go. It was it was
funny when I, when I said, Hey,

2224
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:06,030
there's all these studies
showing that women are getting,

2225
02:11:06,060 --> 02:11:09,090
you know, postmenopausal
bleeding, there's all kinds of

2226
02:11:09,090 --> 02:11:12,780
stuff that's happening post
COVID vaccination. And you know,

2227
02:11:12,780 --> 02:11:15,060
people say that's not true.
You're not reading it, right.

2228
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:17,550
And now, of course, Oh, all
right. You are right, it's true.

2229
02:11:19,380 --> 02:11:23,490
So something has happened, there
has been an attack willingly or

2230
02:11:23,490 --> 02:11:28,680
not, on women's reproductive
system, God given women's

2231
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:33,360
reproductive system. And so
amongst all of this guessing,

2232
02:11:33,390 --> 02:11:37,860
USA Today, link to a video,
which I think this is the clean,

2233
02:11:37,890 --> 02:11:42,900
I hope this is the cleaned up
version of Planned Parenthood.

2234
02:11:43,230 --> 02:11:46,980
And they actually understand why
this excess death is taking

2235
02:11:46,980 --> 02:11:48,750
place among

2236
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:54,480
Unknown: among newborns, but
black women and babies in

2237
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,420
Wisconsin already have higher
mortality rates than white

2238
02:11:57,420 --> 02:12:02,100
babies. Are we concerned about
those racial disparities and the

2239
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:04,980
growth of those disparities as a
result of this decision?

2240
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:09,540
Adam Curry: So firstly, comes
the this is not the cleaned up

2241
02:12:09,540 --> 02:12:13,560
version. I'm now just noticing.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Almost

2242
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:18,900
second. Half the cleaned up
version, I think said that for

2243
02:12:18,900 --> 02:12:24,630
some reason. Yes. I have. Yes. I
think I have it here. Hold on.

2244
02:12:26,070 --> 02:12:30,810
Work. Yes. Sorry, because that
was bad. I think this is the

2245
02:12:31,380 --> 02:12:34,590
this is cleaned up. Yeah. Here
we go. The

2246
02:12:34,590 --> 02:12:37,290
Unknown: black women and babies
in Wisconsin already have higher

2247
02:12:37,290 --> 02:12:40,800
mortality rates than white
babies. Are we concerned about

2248
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:44,820
those racial disparities and the
growth of those disparities as a

2249
02:12:44,820 --> 02:12:46,200
result of this decision?

2250
02:12:46,260 --> 02:12:49,950
Adam Curry: So here comes the
Tonya Atkinson, the current and

2251
02:12:49,950 --> 02:12:53,070
new CEO of Planned Parenthood,
she'll, she'll take this first.

2252
02:12:53,130 --> 02:12:57,060
Unknown: And I'm gonna open it
up to whoever feels comfortable

2253
02:12:57,060 --> 02:12:57,720
to call

2254
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:00,360
Adam Curry: obviously, that
yeah, I'm comfortable. I'll

2255
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:00,930
start

2256
02:13:01,620 --> 02:13:04,590
Unknown: and would encourage
anyone else to join we are we

2257
02:13:04,590 --> 02:13:09,960
are very concerned about that.
We see the inequities in the

2258
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:14,190
health care system. And we
certainly see the inequities in

2259
02:13:14,820 --> 02:13:17,310
as the as the person who has the
question, and we certainly see

2260
02:13:17,310 --> 02:13:23,790
the inequities in maternal
health. And so so we understand

2261
02:13:24,150 --> 02:13:24,780
in our heads,

2262
02:13:24,930 --> 02:13:28,020
Adam Curry: well, they're all
desperately trying to make a

2263
02:13:28,020 --> 02:13:30,450
point and that's why they're
hemming and hawing and oming.

2264
02:13:30,450 --> 02:13:30,990
And moving

2265
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:34,920
Unknown: does system have a
disproportionate impact on

2266
02:13:34,980 --> 02:13:37,080
people who are already
marginalized in our health care

2267
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:39,690
system for already experiencing
inequities in our healthcare

2268
02:13:39,690 --> 02:13:47,400
system. And, and a very
unfortunately, you know, black

2269
02:13:47,550 --> 02:13:54,060
pregnancy bowl, experience some
of the starkest inequities here

2270
02:13:54,060 --> 02:13:59,040
in Wisconsin and incomparably
across the country. So we're

2271
02:13:59,370 --> 02:14:00,960
incredibly concerned about this.

2272
02:14:01,050 --> 02:14:04,080
Adam Curry: So she can't bring
herself to say it. But Kathy

2273
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:07,500
King, who I believe is a doctor,
she speaks next

2274
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:13,320
Unknown: I will just echo about
Wisconsin, like many states

2275
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:18,450
chocolates, the country has at
least a three fold higher rate

2276
02:14:18,510 --> 02:14:23,370
of return on mortality, or black
women compared to non black

2277
02:14:23,370 --> 02:14:28,530
women. And Milwaukee has the
highest rate of infant mortality

2278
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:36,660
in in, of any collocation in the
state. So it's already a huge

2279
02:14:36,660 --> 02:14:43,170
problem. And because there is
such a narrow exception to the

2280
02:14:43,170 --> 02:14:50,310
law, about for individuals who
already have health challenges

2281
02:14:50,730 --> 02:14:56,400
that would make their pregnancy
higher risks, fall. You know,

2282
02:14:56,460 --> 02:15:00,630
there are just going to be so
many barriers for them. On to

2283
02:15:00,630 --> 02:15:06,060
access abortion, if that's what
they choose to do, because they

2284
02:15:06,060 --> 02:15:09,630
feel that that is the best
option for themselves and the

2285
02:15:09,630 --> 02:15:14,760
family that they already have.
By them. You know, there is an

2286
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:21,720
estimate with abortion, US lack
of abortion access. If roe is

2287
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:27,900
overturned, that it nationwide,
we could see a 20% increase in

2288
02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:30,390
maternal mortality. These

2289
02:15:30,690 --> 02:15:35,520
Adam Curry: evil women are
saying that because Roe vs. Wade

2290
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:40,650
was overturned, because less
babies will be killed in the

2291
02:15:40,650 --> 02:15:48,120
womb. That's why newborn babies
are dying at excessive rates.

2292
02:15:49,020 --> 02:15:54,720
That's their answer. The
Republicans did it. That

2293
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:59,760
pathetic, that's literally what
they're saying. Here's the tag

2294
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:01,140
on this. So

2295
02:16:01,170 --> 02:16:07,800
Unknown: the risk to people's
lives this this varietal and

2296
02:16:08,610 --> 02:16:13,770
list the lack of access will
inflict harm. It

2297
02:16:13,770 --> 02:16:17,790
Adam Curry: will inflict harm
with lack of access. It's

2298
02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:21,870
unbelievable. That's why the the
CEO she couldn't bring herself

2299
02:16:21,870 --> 02:16:26,430
to say it to say, well, this is
what we've now determined that

2300
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:31,950
evil, Supreme Court evil
Republicans evil red states,

2301
02:16:32,310 --> 02:16:36,450
because you overturn the right
to access to or made it hard for

2302
02:16:37,230 --> 02:16:41,400
women to abort their babies
abort whatever to me, I don't

2303
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:46,920
want to get to you. No, I don't,
not for me to determine. That's

2304
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:51,420
why we have higher infant
mortality rate. But let's not

2305
02:16:51,420 --> 02:16:55,050
look at COVID vaccinations at
all at all at all, or what it's

2306
02:16:55,050 --> 02:16:59,610
done to the uterus, uterine SAC
and all this stuff. It's

2307
02:16:59,610 --> 02:17:04,920
amazing. This is just glossed
over. And that's what we're

2308
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:10,920
getting. That's your answer. I'm
blown away by these people.

2309
02:17:12,330 --> 02:17:14,790
John C Dvorak: Not in a good
way. You're shocked. Gambling

2310
02:17:14,790 --> 02:17:15,660
going on. I'm

2311
02:17:15,660 --> 02:17:19,560
Adam Curry: telling you. I'm
shocked. Yes. Just a funny

2312
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:26,490
story. No sooner was the
executive order written by Joe

2313
02:17:26,490 --> 02:17:33,060
Biden. Genocide Joe, then both
the Elon Musk and Sam Altman

2314
02:17:33,060 --> 02:17:36,930
release brand new Oh, big new
reason, new announcements, this

2315
02:17:36,930 --> 02:17:40,890
AI that's going to kill
everybody. We have new ones. Do

2316
02:17:40,890 --> 02:17:43,650
you see what's what outwood
Altman's doing with open AI is

2317
02:17:43,650 --> 02:17:48,990
good. We're gonna have an app
store. So you can build your own

2318
02:17:48,990 --> 02:17:53,130
ai ai that is going to these
guys got an executive order

2319
02:17:53,130 --> 02:17:56,100
written and we know what's in
it. But the way it was sold to

2320
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:59,400
the public was we have we have
to have the government involved

2321
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:03,270
with this. We got to put
guardrails around it because you

2322
02:18:03,270 --> 02:18:06,990
know if you just put this the
power of AI into anybody's hand,

2323
02:18:07,290 --> 02:18:12,420
not skilled, smartest people on
the earth like Elon and Sam, the

2324
02:18:12,420 --> 02:18:16,320
it could take over it could eat
us. So here's an app store for

2325
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:21,090
your store. You can sell your
own AI app. Are you kidding me

2326
02:18:21,090 --> 02:18:27,720
now? That's that's unbelievably
shallow. And here's a fine

2327
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:32,430
example of the idiots who are
using AI and trusting it. A

2328
02:18:32,430 --> 02:18:36,510
group of Australian academics
has had to unreservedly

2329
02:18:36,510 --> 02:18:41,430
apologize for including
factually incorrect allegations

2330
02:18:41,430 --> 02:18:46,980
about big consulting firms.
Professor Emeritus James

2331
02:18:46,980 --> 02:18:49,680
Guthrie, Professor in the
Department of Accounting and

2332
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:53,550
corporate governance at
Macquarie Macquarie University,

2333
02:18:54,480 --> 02:18:59,430
admitted to having used Google's
Bard to research information for

2334
02:18:59,430 --> 02:19:02,640
submission to a parliamentary
inquiry into the conduct of the

2335
02:19:02,640 --> 02:19:06,450
Big Four consulting firms with
numerous false claims being

2336
02:19:06,450 --> 02:19:11,100
generated. The AI literally made
up fake cases about these

2337
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:13,950
consulting firms and the way I
think about consulting firms

2338
02:19:13,950 --> 02:19:20,490
scamming the government and and
Google barred just created some

2339
02:19:20,550 --> 02:19:24,810
some magical cases that never
existed. Love it. And this guy

2340
02:19:24,810 --> 02:19:28,230
is a Google Scholar, which is
even funnier, whatever that

2341
02:19:28,260 --> 02:19:34,410
whatever that means. So, no, no,
this is not important. It's not

2342
02:19:34,410 --> 02:19:37,980
going to eat the world. It'll
it'll make some nice Drake

2343
02:19:37,980 --> 02:19:42,330
songs. No, it'll, it'll create
art that we don't choose.

2344
02:19:44,340 --> 02:19:46,980
John C Dvorak: But we've chosen
plenty of AI.

2345
02:19:47,010 --> 02:19:50,730
Adam Curry: You know what I
mean? We tend we tend to if we

2346
02:19:50,730 --> 02:19:54,210
can identify it, we tend to move
on. It's usually usually the

2347
02:19:54,210 --> 02:19:56,370
stuff that's not good as AI
generated. There are people who

2348
02:19:56,370 --> 02:19:57,480
know what to do. Yeah, you

2349
02:19:57,480 --> 02:19:59,760
John C Dvorak: pick the lash.
Yeah.

2350
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:01,740
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay, you're
gonna, you're gonna, you're

2351
02:20:01,740 --> 02:20:02,880
gonna sit here and argue with
me.

2352
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:05,340
John C Dvorak: I just don't want
us to be lying to her.

2353
02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:09,210
Adam Curry: I'm not lying. I'm
not lying. But normally, I would

2354
02:20:09,210 --> 02:20:13,950
say most of the bad stuff is AI
generated. A lot of it is,

2355
02:20:14,490 --> 02:20:16,530
John C Dvorak: I think I'm not
gonna disagree with that. But

2356
02:20:16,530 --> 02:20:20,280
I'm gonna just say that most of
the art is AI generated. Oh,

2357
02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:24,420
really? I think I think the
stuff that we're tending to pick

2358
02:20:24,420 --> 02:20:27,540
now is probably this hybrid art
this hybrid

2359
02:20:27,540 --> 02:20:30,240
Adam Curry: and would you say
that this is a power that is

2360
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:31,260
going to eat the world

2361
02:20:32,460 --> 02:20:34,260
John C Dvorak: not going to eat
the world is going to eat the

2362
02:20:34,260 --> 02:20:37,470
lunch of a lot of artists that
are dependent on doing schlock

2363
02:20:37,470 --> 02:20:43,110
art. were unsure or they're
going to become the guys who who

2364
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:47,490
can control the AI? No, it's I
think it's a positive thing in

2365
02:20:47,490 --> 02:20:52,560
every way. And I love the idea
is generating phony baloney

2366
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:55,710
reports, I think that's great.
If people were gonna rely on

2367
02:20:55,710 --> 02:20:59,670
that destroyed in their faces,
phonies. Well,

2368
02:21:00,150 --> 02:21:03,180
Adam Curry: those who are not
going to be affected by it is

2369
02:21:03,180 --> 02:21:04,080
the actors.

2370
02:21:05,460 --> 02:21:08,460
Unknown: Hollywood is back and
open for business.

2371
02:21:10,530 --> 02:21:14,250
On Friday, the sag AFTRA Board
approved the monumental three

2372
02:21:14,250 --> 02:21:16,800
year contract deal with
Hollywood studios,

2373
02:21:17,070 --> 02:21:22,140
we began this journey, the
largest entertainment union in

2374
02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:26,070
the world, and we finish it the
most

2375
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:30,000
powerful. So what's in the deal
valued at more than $1 billion

2376
02:21:30,900 --> 02:21:34,080
additional compensation for
successful streaming shows and a

2377
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:38,190
minimum wage increase totaling
11% Within a year, and

2378
02:21:38,190 --> 02:21:41,400
protections surrounding
artificial intelligence, actors

2379
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:45,360
will now be informed and paid if
studios make a digital replica

2380
02:21:45,390 --> 02:21:48,900
of their work. Actors saying
this deal was all the motivation

2381
02:21:48,930 --> 02:21:49,680
they needed

2382
02:21:49,740 --> 02:21:53,700
the idea to make actors crawl
their whole life Johnson work

2383
02:21:53,700 --> 02:21:59,640
anymore. It's time that we are
respected and paid. Then we do a

2384
02:21:59,640 --> 02:22:01,320
really great job on TV.

2385
02:22:04,530 --> 02:22:08,430
Adam Curry: Friend, I can't help
but like her. Yes, very good

2386
02:22:08,430 --> 02:22:13,320
actors Good job sag. The economy
suffered by estimates $3 billion

2387
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:18,630
and you got 2 billion back Good
work. Good. To forget the

2388
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:22,020
catering people forget everybody
else. You got it. You got you

2389
02:22:22,020 --> 02:22:26,610
got your end you all. Y'all
gonna get fired? You're not

2390
02:22:26,610 --> 02:22:30,900
going to be called in. Now we're
the most powerful can do

2391
02:22:30,930 --> 02:22:33,360
John C Dvorak: you know that?
Yeah. Well, there's, there's a

2392
02:22:33,390 --> 02:22:36,450
whole we could do a whole show
on some of the things that can

2393
02:22:36,450 --> 02:22:40,440
go on if things not to continue.
Yes.

2394
02:22:40,890 --> 02:22:43,410
Adam Curry: Well, but so they're
gonna get paid if the studios

2395
02:22:43,410 --> 02:22:44,820
use them in AI.

2396
02:22:45,360 --> 02:22:47,190
John C Dvorak: Since it's
Veterans Day, I do have two

2397
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:49,920
clips I would like to play so
we're going to honor veterans.

2398
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:50,160
Yes,

2399
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:52,020
Adam Curry: I think that's a
grand idea. Let's do that

2400
02:22:52,050 --> 02:22:53,850
John C Dvorak: veterans news.

2401
02:22:54,090 --> 02:22:54,780
Adam Curry: One,

2402
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:56,790
Unknown: the Biden
administration on Friday

2403
02:22:56,820 --> 02:22:59,940
announcing three steps to
improve the life of America's

2404
02:22:59,940 --> 02:23:03,330
veterans ahead of Saturday's
Veterans Day. First, it's

2405
02:23:03,330 --> 02:23:06,600
expanding no cost health care to
all living World War Two

2406
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:10,230
veterans, eligible vets will be
able to claim those benefits

2407
02:23:10,230 --> 02:23:13,890
starting this month. This
includes nursing home care. Some

2408
02:23:13,890 --> 02:23:16,980
veterans who suffer from
Parkinson's disease will also be

2409
02:23:16,980 --> 02:23:20,010
eligible for free health care.
And the third point the

2410
02:23:20,010 --> 02:23:23,280
administration is launching the
veterans scam and Fraud Division

2411
02:23:23,310 --> 02:23:27,480
or V safe Task Force, saying
military personnel and families

2412
02:23:27,480 --> 02:23:31,170
lost almost half a billion
dollars to scams. The government

2413
02:23:31,170 --> 02:23:34,800
will now educate about fraud
release a fraud prevention

2414
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:38,640
toolkit, prevent scam callers
from targeting vets and more.

2415
02:23:39,330 --> 02:23:40,470
Scam prevention

2416
02:23:40,470 --> 02:23:41,220
Adam Curry: toolkit

2417
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:44,460
John C Dvorak: here what do what
is just a list of some things

2418
02:23:44,460 --> 02:23:49,650
not to I get I have my phone
goes through Sonic my landline

2419
02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:55,320
and Sonic has a software at the
front end. That blocks most of

2420
02:23:55,320 --> 02:23:58,830
the bullshit calls. I still get
four to five to six calls a day

2421
02:23:58,980 --> 02:24:02,700
for various phony Bologna's had
come in with all kinds of scams.

2422
02:24:03,210 --> 02:24:06,840
Why isn't the government
stopping these scams? They

2423
02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:10,080
veterans they said last a half a
billion the public at large is

2424
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:15,720
probably lost 5 billion. What is
wrong with our FBI not to track

2425
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:19,200
these guys down? That can't be
impossible to find?

2426
02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:23,400
Adam Curry: Well, they're
tracking down Trump supporters

2427
02:24:24,210 --> 02:24:30,480
got other things to do. Is this
NTD yes indeedy, because he

2428
02:24:30,480 --> 02:24:31,470
sounds like this guy.

2429
02:24:31,530 --> 02:24:34,440
Unknown: Donald Trump don't
trust China, China is as Hope

2430
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:37,530
The announcement comes as
president. It's not the same guy

2431
02:24:37,530 --> 02:24:40,440
who right is set to visit
Arlington National Cemetery on

2432
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:43,800
Veterans Day. Fridays White
House announcement also touched

2433
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:47,550
on the pressing issue of suicide
among veterans. A national

2434
02:24:47,550 --> 02:24:50,910
survey found that half of all
vets with mental health issues

2435
02:24:50,940 --> 02:24:54,300
don't reach out to seek help.
And clinical psychologists

2436
02:24:54,300 --> 02:24:57,660
correct Brian says that if you
want to thank a veteran this

2437
02:24:57,660 --> 02:25:00,930
year, make sure to check in on
him in by Tim for a social

2438
02:25:00,930 --> 02:25:04,080
gathering, or just ask how he's
doing all these

2439
02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:07,230
things increase their sense of
connection and has also been

2440
02:25:07,230 --> 02:25:10,350
shown to elevate positive mood
and psychological well being.

2441
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:13,020
And when starting a
conversation, it's critical to

2442
02:25:13,020 --> 02:25:14,760
fully engage in it. We

2443
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:18,510
often find that veterans will
not necessarily say out loud

2444
02:25:18,510 --> 02:25:20,910
that they're having thoughts
about suicide, they may have

2445
02:25:20,910 --> 02:25:24,240
these other sort of coded
statements that would indicate

2446
02:25:24,540 --> 02:25:26,130
that things are going really
well.

2447
02:25:26,160 --> 02:25:29,310
He added that veterans and
anyone who's struggling can also

2448
02:25:29,310 --> 02:25:33,000
help themselves by taking small
steps such as eating healthy and

2449
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:34,320
exercising regularly.

2450
02:25:35,190 --> 02:25:40,050
John C Dvorak: Okay. Here here's
if anyone can check out the

2451
02:25:40,050 --> 02:25:42,990
videos of Biden at the Tomb of
the Unknown

2452
02:25:43,710 --> 02:25:45,900
Adam Curry: that was that was
embarrassing.

2453
02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:48,510
John C Dvorak: It was and what
was really bad about it besides

2454
02:25:48,510 --> 02:25:53,670
Biden, roaming around like the
unknown president is that camera

2455
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:57,090
line or buddy back there?
They're laughing at him Oh, I

2456
02:25:57,090 --> 02:25:58,950
Adam Curry: didn't see you
notice that no, I didn't see

2457
02:25:58,950 --> 02:26:04,830
that doesn't surprise me man
yeah, here's here's a good idea

2458
02:26:04,830 --> 02:26:07,620
let's not create veterans of war
anymore how about that why don't

2459
02:26:07,620 --> 02:26:11,010
we How about we don't don't do
war is that is that a crazy

2460
02:26:11,070 --> 02:26:14,880
crazy idea Am I Am I off base
here just the thought was down

2461
02:26:14,880 --> 02:26:19,380
it's an idea ID here's Adams
idea of the day let's not do war

2462
02:26:19,380 --> 02:26:23,280
anymore there's just a thought
I'm just thinking and with that

2463
02:26:23,730 --> 02:26:25,560
I'd like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you

2464
02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:28,950
the man who put the sea in the
Dawson can say hello to my

2465
02:26:28,950 --> 02:26:32,340
friend on the other end the one
and only Mr. Johnson

2466
02:26:35,850 --> 02:26:38,850
John C Dvorak: throughout the
morning to you Mr. And cursor in

2467
02:26:38,850 --> 02:26:41,400
the morning all ships at sea and
boots on the ground the feet in

2468
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:43,470
the air and subs in the water
all the names nights and the

2469
02:26:43,470 --> 02:26:45,420
Adam Curry: morning to the
trolls and the troll room let me

2470
02:26:45,420 --> 02:26:45,840
count

2471
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:55,620
two and a half hours in which is
long for us 2017 trolls on this

2472
02:26:55,620 --> 02:26:56,550
wonderful Sunday

2473
02:26:57,300 --> 02:26:59,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah 400 Low

2474
02:27:02,130 --> 02:27:05,880
Adam Curry: I think it doesn't
count it's a holiday weekend

2475
02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:09,900
John C Dvorak: Hey on that and I
think it's a legitimate blame

2476
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,510
Adam Curry: did we did we do we
get to get a day off?

2477
02:27:13,200 --> 02:27:14,970
John C Dvorak: No Did I miss
something but it's a lot of

2478
02:27:14,970 --> 02:27:17,820
people took the you can take the
blind people will take Monday

2479
02:27:17,820 --> 02:27:20,580
off or Friday in their ticket
three days a lot of people took

2480
02:27:20,580 --> 02:27:21,330
off yeah

2481
02:27:21,360 --> 02:27:23,790
Adam Curry: and you know what
we're into the taking time off

2482
02:27:23,940 --> 02:27:28,830
season for the M five M with the
Thanksgiving coming up here in

2483
02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:33,360
the working they just stopped
working you know and I don't

2484
02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:37,680
Well the war actually halt will
will the war in in Israel and

2485
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:41,040
Gaza and in Ukraine. Well, that
just stopped since there's no

2486
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:43,740
one reporting on it. No one to
report. Maybe that's why they

2487
02:27:43,740 --> 02:27:46,680
brought in Douglas Murray. We
can eat some second stringers in

2488
02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:47,040
there.

2489
02:27:47,640 --> 02:27:50,400
John C Dvorak: You're gonna see
a lot of second stringer soon.

2490
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:51,510
Ah, man.

2491
02:27:52,290 --> 02:27:55,170
Adam Curry: You know, Tina was
out. She was this destination

2492
02:27:55,170 --> 02:27:59,550
wedding. She's on the way home
right now. Luckily. And so I

2493
02:27:59,550 --> 02:28:01,950
watched another episode of the
morning show.

2494
02:28:02,820 --> 02:28:05,880
John C Dvorak: Oh, you know,
okay, let's do a little TV

2495
02:28:05,880 --> 02:28:06,690
review here. I

2496
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:07,710
Adam Curry: God.

2497
02:28:08,880 --> 02:28:11,460
John C Dvorak: So I truly,
you've been watching that I

2498
02:28:11,460 --> 02:28:13,440
couldn't get through the first
episode. I didn't think it was

2499
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:19,410
bad as you did. But you really
hate them. Then third season. So

2500
02:28:19,410 --> 02:28:23,040
but you also mentioned that
Kelsey Grammer the new Frasier

2501
02:28:23,070 --> 02:28:24,480
Adam Curry: I had to stop
watching that.

2502
02:28:25,050 --> 02:28:27,150
John C Dvorak: He can't How
could you watch what you did I

2503
02:28:27,150 --> 02:28:32,040
get is the worst because we've
the the Romick time reason why.

2504
02:28:32,310 --> 02:28:35,100
Adam Curry: The reason why.
Because we have we are now on

2505
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:38,640
season nine, eight of the old

2506
02:28:39,690 --> 02:28:42,180
John C Dvorak: Frazier. Oh, the
old Frazier is one of the

2507
02:28:42,180 --> 02:28:44,700
greatest TV shows ever. The

2508
02:28:44,850 --> 02:28:50,400
Adam Curry: that style of comedy
is so good. It's, I mean, they

2509
02:28:50,400 --> 02:28:52,470
had great. There was even a
point where you could see they

2510
02:28:52,470 --> 02:28:55,620
swapped I think Kelsey was
writing episodes himself. For a

2511
02:28:55,620 --> 02:28:58,830
moment. They're like, see after
Season Five like hey, you know,

2512
02:28:58,830 --> 02:29:03,180
we're rich now I can write it.
And it didn't work. And after

2513
02:29:03,180 --> 02:29:07,500
like six episodes, they they
brought the writers throws Yeah,

2514
02:29:07,500 --> 02:29:11,520
and got good again. So when they
came out with a new Frasier I

2515
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:16,110
was excited. Like, oh, let's you
know he still acts the same but

2516
02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:21,540
it's it's no good. It's I had to
stop. It was no good. So then,

2517
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:25,590
out of the misery, I went to the
morning show season three, and

2518
02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:29,910
they're doing flashbacks to
COVID and Ukraine and making

2519
02:29:29,910 --> 02:29:34,650
important decisions in the
newsroom to save people's lives.

2520
02:29:37,290 --> 02:29:40,050
Yeah, Apple should be
embarrassed. It's not funny and

2521
02:29:40,050 --> 02:29:43,860
they're paying Jon Hamm top
dollar for that it's crazy. Oh,

2522
02:29:43,860 --> 02:29:44,070
he

2523
02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:46,470
John C Dvorak: knows how to move
in when it counts and he gets a

2524
02:29:46,470 --> 02:29:52,020
you know you it's a forgettable
situation for him. He loves

2525
02:29:52,020 --> 02:29:55,530
playing a comedian you know
you'd like being he likes comic

2526
02:29:55,530 --> 02:29:59,970
characters he played one with in
30 Rock now. Yeah, finding law

2527
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,370
His hands, but all right this
show the Frazier show that comic

2528
02:30:05,370 --> 02:30:09,240
timing is gone there's none
there's no canned laughter in

2529
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:11,910
inappropriate places they should
do it in front of a live

2530
02:30:11,910 --> 02:30:14,820
audience. Yes, they tried to get
get the show together. They

2531
02:30:14,820 --> 02:30:18,150
can't do it. No, they get no
laughs in front of a live

2532
02:30:18,150 --> 02:30:21,390
audience but they might, you
know, get closer to what's

2533
02:30:21,390 --> 02:30:26,010
funny. It's terrible. It's it
stinks. And that giveaway I

2534
02:30:26,010 --> 02:30:29,610
talked to me about this The
giveaway is that it says at the

2535
02:30:29,610 --> 02:30:34,590
beginning, CBS Studios presents
CBS Studios they wouldn't even

2536
02:30:34,590 --> 02:30:38,100
put it on the network they even
knew it sucks so they put it on

2537
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:41,340
Paramount plus, which nobody
watches

2538
02:30:41,610 --> 02:30:44,910
Adam Curry: I got it through
Amazon I guess though it's on

2539
02:30:44,910 --> 02:30:48,180
Amazon. I think I got a
subscription for some reason

2540
02:30:48,180 --> 02:30:49,740
through as well you probably on
Pyrmont

2541
02:30:49,740 --> 02:30:52,620
John C Dvorak: plus through
Amazon. Yeah, yeah. Anyway,

2542
02:30:52,770 --> 02:30:55,980
there's no way that is your
waste of money. He

2543
02:30:55,980 --> 02:30:58,260
Adam Curry: does not have any
comedic timing like the no

2544
02:30:58,260 --> 02:31:03,060
agenda show. I'm with you there.
I mean, we were pros. And we

2545
02:31:03,060 --> 02:31:06,360
have a live studio audience that
you can't hear the clapping

2546
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:07,650
silently in the troll

2547
02:31:07,650 --> 02:31:12,360
John C Dvorak: God the troll you
imagine here's your troll ruse

2548
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:13,350
with sound so

2549
02:31:13,350 --> 02:31:17,610
Adam Curry: unlike all of those
big podcast networks we're not

2550
02:31:17,610 --> 02:31:22,800
captured by anything. Certainly
not by any interests that might

2551
02:31:22,800 --> 02:31:27,480
be important to the company the
organization wouldn't mean yet

2552
02:31:29,160 --> 02:31:32,730
no 16 years we've been doing it
value for value there's it was

2553
02:31:32,730 --> 02:31:36,690
the guy on no agenda social who
is gone back to Episode One and

2554
02:31:36,690 --> 02:31:38,940
he's listed has been going
through and taking notes has

2555
02:31:38,940 --> 02:31:41,220
been posted that's actually
that's kind of marginally

2556
02:31:41,220 --> 02:31:43,590
interesting to me. Although I
haven't we

2557
02:31:43,590 --> 02:31:46,920
John C Dvorak: you know, we have
anything to deceased. We had

2558
02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:50,400
this guy that on to someone for
a blog.

2559
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:53,250
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Uncle.

2560
02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:57,330
John C Dvorak: Now listen, Uncle
it was somebody else. Yeah, I

2561
02:31:57,330 --> 02:32:01,020
thought it was Uncle, somewhat
famous guy on the blog, and

2562
02:32:01,020 --> 02:32:04,860
around and he is Texan. And he
was doing the notes and posting

2563
02:32:04,860 --> 02:32:08,220
them on the blog. And I think is
who'd be and I think he started

2564
02:32:08,220 --> 02:32:11,040
pretty early on. So it might be
interesting to compare notes. I

2565
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:15,210
told this guy who's doing the
note taking to put it up on a

2566
02:32:15,210 --> 02:32:18,150
blog. Because we go away. On the
Record,

2567
02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:20,760
Adam Curry: you're bound, you're
bound to lose it if you're doing

2568
02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:22,020
it the way you do. sarway.

2569
02:32:22,710 --> 02:32:26,100
John C Dvorak: There's some
idiot in a train honking so

2570
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:26,670
loud.

2571
02:32:27,810 --> 02:32:28,920
Adam Curry: Is it the Zephyr?

2572
02:32:30,570 --> 02:32:32,490
John C Dvorak: Man, what is the
deal with these guys?

2573
02:32:32,520 --> 02:32:34,140
Adam Curry: If you had
headphones, it wouldn't be such

2574
02:32:34,140 --> 02:32:34,710
a problem.

2575
02:32:37,050 --> 02:32:39,180
Unknown: Hello, hello. If

2576
02:32:39,180 --> 02:32:44,430
Adam Curry: you had if you had a
problem is

2577
02:32:44,430 --> 02:32:47,130
John C Dvorak: this thing on?
Here are the

2578
02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:57,240
Adam Curry: Oh my god. We want
to so that's we do value for

2579
02:32:57,240 --> 02:33:00,360
value. That was my point. But
part of that value is what the

2580
02:33:00,360 --> 02:33:05,100
artists do. Or these days the
value comes from Ai. I'm

2581
02:33:05,100 --> 02:33:08,790
reliably informed. So let's
thank some of let's thank the

2582
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:12,150
artists who brought us the
artwork for episode 1606. We

2583
02:33:12,150 --> 02:33:18,120
titled that food noise this art
God God play people like this

2584
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:23,220
one. People it was it was a
welcome to the home of the

2585
02:33:23,340 --> 02:33:27,990
Welcome to no agenda home of the
ozempic Plateau. And under that

2586
02:33:27,990 --> 02:33:31,350
assign death bounds peak exit
33. So this was perfect for

2587
02:33:31,350 --> 02:33:34,380
those who would listen to the
show already. And intriguing for

2588
02:33:34,380 --> 02:33:39,930
those who had not. And people on
X would even say, you know XMP

2589
02:33:39,930 --> 02:33:43,890
plateau is a thing. So whenever
whenever people take our art

2590
02:33:43,890 --> 02:33:49,050
serious like seriously, like
that just warms my heart. We

2591
02:33:49,050 --> 02:33:51,600
might we I hit somebody in the
mouth inadvertently. He's like

2592
02:33:51,630 --> 02:33:54,660
I'm gonna listen that because I
know about ozempic plant Tom is

2593
02:33:54,660 --> 02:33:55,950
going to check it out.

2594
02:33:57,210 --> 02:33:58,320
Unknown: With my red snake farm.

2595
02:33:59,970 --> 02:34:04,050
Adam Curry: This art was brought
to us by networks. Good to see

2596
02:34:04,050 --> 02:34:05,520
networks back in the game.

2597
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:07,590
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, he's
still lead. He's on the

2598
02:34:07,590 --> 02:34:12,900
leaderboard. He is the number
120 23 Art producer he's going

2599
02:34:12,900 --> 02:34:15,480
to win the championship by the
time this is over.

2600
02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:19,110
Adam Curry: I mean, when the
show is over? No,

2601
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:21,210
John C Dvorak: by the time the
year is over, and we go into

2602
02:34:21,210 --> 02:34:22,530
season 17

2603
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:29,340
Adam Curry: Oh, we're doing
seasons now. Okay, groovy. Oh,

2604
02:34:29,340 --> 02:34:32,280
let's see what else we had.
There were a couple of things

2605
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:33,690
that I liked. I

2606
02:34:33,690 --> 02:34:36,000
John C Dvorak: the one you liked
is the one that I call that is

2607
02:34:36,030 --> 02:34:39,750
all AI and that's why he was
calling you out on the show

2608
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:44,340
earlier with which is this
ozempic Fries you really liked

2609
02:34:44,340 --> 02:34:44,520
it.

2610
02:34:44,580 --> 02:34:47,910
Adam Curry: Yes by a sketch
sage. Yes, I did like that. I

2611
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:51,330
thought that was a good piece. I
also liked to know agenda go

2612
02:34:52,620 --> 02:34:58,590
beldo was very simplistic. I
thought that was cool. Then

2613
02:34:58,590 --> 02:35:02,280
there's a lot of search.
Scandanavian No, no, no, no, no

2614
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:05,790
with your moose. I don't know
what it was he posted like

2615
02:35:05,790 --> 02:35:10,110
pictures of where he lives. So
not sure what that was about a

2616
02:35:10,110 --> 02:35:11,490
lot of death bound.

2617
02:35:13,049 --> 02:35:15,269
John C Dvorak: We weren't going
to use death in the art.

2618
02:35:16,140 --> 02:35:18,000
Adam Curry: Well, we did use
death in the art. What are you

2619
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:19,020
talking about? We're

2620
02:35:19,020 --> 02:35:21,540
John C Dvorak: gonna use it
aggressively.

2621
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:26,940
Adam Curry: Okay, not
aggressively. True. There was

2622
02:35:26,940 --> 02:35:31,410
something. Well, we both as AI
art goes the ozempic Fries was a

2623
02:35:31,410 --> 02:35:32,280
great piece.

2624
02:35:32,670 --> 02:35:35,190
John C Dvorak: It was a
beautiful piece it was whoever

2625
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:38,790
this guy is. We don't? Yes,
we're from a much new guy. He

2626
02:35:38,790 --> 02:35:42,420
knows how to use the system.
Yeah, because to create that

2627
02:35:42,420 --> 02:35:44,430
piece is non trivial.

2628
02:35:45,150 --> 02:35:47,700
Adam Curry: A lot of people
trying to do anti fish, which

2629
02:35:47,700 --> 02:35:51,270
just you know, if you don't hear
it, and that just didn't work. I

2630
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:55,020
mean, I got the idea. Just
didn't work in context out of

2631
02:35:55,020 --> 02:35:59,640
context, I should say. Was there
anything else that we liked?

2632
02:36:03,300 --> 02:36:05,670
John C Dvorak: There was one
piece I saw later that I liked

2633
02:36:05,790 --> 02:36:09,660
it missed it. The first go
around was that I'm curious,

2634
02:36:09,750 --> 02:36:10,740
find it again.

2635
02:36:13,500 --> 02:36:20,460
Adam Curry: Maybe it wasn't?
Well, doesn't matter networks,

2636
02:36:20,460 --> 02:36:23,640
thank you very much. We
appreciate your art. And we

2637
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:27,510
appreciate the work that all of
the artists do. And it's hard.

2638
02:36:27,510 --> 02:36:30,750
It's very hard to do this.
You're doing stuff you're doing

2639
02:36:30,750 --> 02:36:33,510
on spec work, you've got nothing
to go on, other than what you've

2640
02:36:33,510 --> 02:36:37,530
heard, while listening to the
show live. It's not easy. So

2641
02:36:37,530 --> 02:36:41,490
it's amazing to me that we that
we have anything at all. I mean,

2642
02:36:41,490 --> 02:36:45,240
it's just it's beautiful. I
mean, I look at the, you know,

2643
02:36:45,240 --> 02:36:53,550
what do we have 123456 is like
3040 pieces of art. Even though

2644
02:36:53,580 --> 02:36:56,940
some of us just can be discarded
was still there. I appreciate

2645
02:36:56,940 --> 02:37:00,630
it. Thank you artists. Thank you
so much. Well, yeah, you can

2646
02:37:00,630 --> 02:37:04,050
follow along at no agenda, art
generator.com. If you get a

2647
02:37:04,050 --> 02:37:09,300
modern podcast app at podcast,
apps.com Dred Scott puts it in

2648
02:37:09,300 --> 02:37:15,150
the in the chapter art, which by
the way, pocket Pocket Cast now

2649
02:37:15,150 --> 02:37:20,370
does the chapters, the
podcasting 2.0 chapters, that's

2650
02:37:20,370 --> 02:37:24,600
a big deal. Pocket Cast is a big
app, and they've been kind of

2651
02:37:25,620 --> 02:37:28,110
kind of playing it slow. So
we're happy that they're getting

2652
02:37:28,110 --> 02:37:33,480
on board. It's cool. And you can
also participate, you can become

2653
02:37:33,480 --> 02:37:35,700
an artist, if you're not already
an artist, you can do whatever

2654
02:37:35,700 --> 02:37:39,630
you want upload to no agenda,
art generated.com. Of course, it

2655
02:37:39,630 --> 02:37:42,840
is something you need to do
while we're doing the show.

2656
02:37:42,840 --> 02:37:47,730
Because right after we're done,
we check the credits, we do the

2657
02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:50,340
we choose the artwork, we do the
title, and that's it. We're

2658
02:37:50,340 --> 02:37:55,200
done. So thank you very much
Ness works. Now on to the

2659
02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:58,020
treasure portion of the time,
talent and treasure that is the

2660
02:37:58,020 --> 02:38:02,040
value for value model. A
reminder, please, please be

2661
02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:06,780
considerate for all producers.
And do not write Warren Piece in

2662
02:38:06,780 --> 02:38:12,750
your notes. What is what has
happened? What happened?

2663
02:38:13,110 --> 02:38:15,810
Something happened, something
happened where people are like,

2664
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:18,960
Yeah, I can write whatever I
want for

2665
02:38:18,960 --> 02:38:22,290
John C Dvorak: like a good
month, everyone's will need

2666
02:38:22,290 --> 02:38:25,230
$1,000 to become a PhD. And they
said thanks a lot is a great

2667
02:38:25,230 --> 02:38:30,660
idea. Here's 1000 like these two
jingles and that was it. Yeah.

2668
02:38:30,690 --> 02:38:35,490
Now we have like lectures.
Almost everybody today. Yeah,

2669
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:40,320
everybody, everyone, right at
the same basic price price, but

2670
02:38:40,770 --> 02:38:46,380
at the same donation level.
They've all decided to just chat

2671
02:38:46,380 --> 02:38:48,300
it up except for Jake. And

2672
02:38:48,300 --> 02:38:51,720
Adam Curry: Jake kicks us off.
He's in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

2673
02:38:51,930 --> 02:38:57,270
And wow, he is a show. I Well,
first of all, is the executive

2674
02:38:57,270 --> 02:39:01,380
producer. I don't know if he was
already in night. He didn't put

2675
02:39:01,380 --> 02:39:05,580
anything about it in his in his
note, I am going to presume that

2676
02:39:05,580 --> 02:39:11,370
he wants a PhD. And he has the
show number donation was 1607.

2677
02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:14,070
And he says I would like a
little goat karma to accompany

2678
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:17,670
my donation. Thank you, Joe.
Jake Scott. And we thank you

2679
02:39:17,670 --> 02:39:22,410
Jake Scott's beautiful. You've
got karma

2680
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:30,630
John C Dvorak: and then we go to
Heidi Heidi Walker in new

2681
02:39:30,660 --> 02:39:37,770
Ipswich, New Hampshire. And she
makes it a switcheroo. I'm not

2682
02:39:37,770 --> 02:39:41,700
sure who maybe sirloin of beef I
think congratulations on your

2683
02:39:41,700 --> 02:39:46,080
60th anniversary she says
belatedly this 1000 donation is

2684
02:39:46,080 --> 02:39:50,490
for my wonderful husband a 45
years Mike Walker our case for

2685
02:39:50,490 --> 02:39:56,040
Mike Mike Walker. Yes, longtime
lover of boobs. Good Good for

2686
02:39:56,040 --> 02:40:03,030
him. He was hit in the mouth by
our nephew way In Cataldo, aka

2687
02:40:03,030 --> 02:40:13,980
Wayne, Kimbrough ski in 2020
Mike has has remained a douche

2688
02:40:13,980 --> 02:40:18,360
bag until now our kids and I got
together and we'd like to have

2689
02:40:18,390 --> 02:40:19,800
Mike De douche.

2690
02:40:21,330 --> 02:40:23,820
Unknown: You've been de deuced
and

2691
02:40:23,820 --> 02:40:26,790
John C Dvorak: knighted at the
roundtable as sirloin of beef

2692
02:40:27,450 --> 02:40:30,690
protector of the compound also
please de douche her nephew

2693
02:40:30,690 --> 02:40:32,580
Wayne Cattell dough

2694
02:40:34,290 --> 02:40:36,150
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2695
02:40:36,210 --> 02:40:41,760
John C Dvorak: she came in
$1,000 and greener 33 1033 dot

2696
02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:46,920
33 So this 3333 for him. He's
been a douchebag for many years

2697
02:40:46,920 --> 02:40:50,820
that thank you Heidi Walker and
family. New Ipswich New

2698
02:40:50,820 --> 02:40:56,370
Hampshire jingles wherever an
owl we much and you Obama you

2699
02:40:56,370 --> 02:41:00,330
might die in the round table by
the way if you haven't ordered

2700
02:41:00,330 --> 02:41:04,890
it already. Prime Rib of beef
obviously. And as say St.

2701
02:41:04,920 --> 02:41:11,970
Augustine, ice cold old
fashioned and if fiddlehead IPA

2702
02:41:11,970 --> 02:41:14,130
chasers he was one of those beer

2703
02:41:14,190 --> 02:41:16,620
Adam Curry: weddings one of
those crazy crazy yes,

2704
02:41:16,800 --> 02:41:19,110
John C Dvorak: we're in ice
cream the bartender

2705
02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:23,850
Adam Curry: at the roundtable
rolled her eyes. Oh, okay,

2706
02:41:23,880 --> 02:41:26,640
John C Dvorak: I'll make one of
those. Done that I don't like.

2707
02:41:27,090 --> 02:41:27,900
Resist.

2708
02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:35,250
Unknown: We much. We must and we
will much about that. Be

2709
02:41:35,250 --> 02:41:38,220
committed you might die. All
right.

2710
02:41:38,910 --> 02:41:42,540
Adam Curry: We move on to Paul
Green 1000 Rogan who I was

2711
02:41:42,540 --> 02:41:46,410
hitting them out by guns Oh
shit. Mira from the Canary Cry

2712
02:41:46,410 --> 02:41:50,730
News Talk podcast. Oh, I'm going
on that show. Monday. You are?

2713
02:41:50,790 --> 02:41:55,200
Yes. Yes. But they asked me and
we're and they're sending a lot

2714
02:41:55,200 --> 02:41:59,550
of people to us. So yes, of
course. CCN T donation. I never

2715
02:41:59,550 --> 02:42:02,790
heard of this show. What is it
when they talk about deconstruct

2716
02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:08,910
news? Okay, media analysis.
Yeah. The good they have a lot

2717
02:42:08,910 --> 02:42:11,520
of jingles they do a lot of
crazy jingles.

2718
02:42:12,720 --> 02:42:14,850
John C Dvorak: So they are
against guns Oh

2719
02:42:14,850 --> 02:42:19,770
Adam Curry: may I say they are
students of the masters. CC and

2720
02:42:19,770 --> 02:42:22,770
T donation to show my
appreciation to Gonzo for his

2721
02:42:22,770 --> 02:42:26,100
many years of media analysis and
deconstruction I want Gonzo to

2722
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:29,880
receive his well earned PhD in
media deconstruction it's a PhD

2723
02:42:29,880 --> 02:42:33,090
switcheroo wow that's very kind.

2724
02:42:33,360 --> 02:42:34,920
John C Dvorak: That's a PhD
gift.

2725
02:42:35,010 --> 02:42:37,830
Adam Curry: There's a gift as an
overeducated and under

2726
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:41,160
socialized truck driver I spend
many hours listening to podcast

2727
02:42:41,160 --> 02:42:44,220
no agenda has the best sound
quality by far Adam Your ears

2728
02:42:44,250 --> 02:42:48,600
are a blessing from God. It's
true. This is my first donation

2729
02:42:48,600 --> 02:42:57,060
so can I get a dee doo dee doo
as of course you can please note

2730
02:42:57,060 --> 02:43:01,980
me sir right foot Joy wrangler
of wiggle wagons. I would like

2731
02:43:01,980 --> 02:43:04,470
grasshopper pie added to the
round table I'm going to make

2732
02:43:04,470 --> 02:43:07,920
you eat it okay, it's not like
you can just do some fun stuff

2733
02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:11,340
and say I want grasshopper pot
you have to eat it and all of it

2734
02:43:13,140 --> 02:43:15,630
because I'm strict with these
things you can order the crazy

2735
02:43:15,630 --> 02:43:19,050
stuff but I'm going to make you
eat it and drink it grasshopper

2736
02:43:19,050 --> 02:43:21,480
pie you got that? I would love
it if you could jiggle some

2737
02:43:21,480 --> 02:43:25,080
jingles for me I'd like orange
Can you see that juice? I have

2738
02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:33,420
juice as the see that juice yes
I've seen that juice man so much

2739
02:43:33,420 --> 02:43:39,180
over here see that juice and
some bitcoin karma for all will

2740
02:43:39,180 --> 02:43:43,140
be great thanks gents Paul Green
soon to be sir right foot JOY

2741
02:43:44,940 --> 02:43:48,000
John C Dvorak: What he has
little girl yay in there too.

2742
02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:49,290
Adam Curry: Yeah happy little
girl yeah

2743
02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:56,640
Unknown: oh my gosh. Can you see
that juice? You You've got

2744
02:43:56,700 --> 02:43:58,080
Bitcoin karma

2745
02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:07,230
John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go
with Sir EA of the tax domain

2746
02:44:08,010 --> 02:44:13,440
$1,000 just came in late as a
type three C, diabetic

2747
02:44:13,500 --> 02:44:18,510
pancreatitis and chronic
pancreatitis which does not

2748
02:44:18,510 --> 02:44:21,810
sound good. I take several
medications thanks in part to na

2749
02:44:21,810 --> 02:44:26,130
in sourcing my ivermectin from
overseas I now source my insulin

2750
02:44:26,130 --> 02:44:30,390
and Jardiance outside the US and
as of October 2023 due to

2751
02:44:30,390 --> 02:44:34,770
shortages. Now the rest of my
prescriptions. And he goes on

2752
02:44:34,770 --> 02:44:37,860
with this breakdown of how much
like Jordans for example cost me

2753
02:44:37,860 --> 02:44:41,610
3722 For three days supply if I
pay cash 340 with the

2754
02:44:41,610 --> 02:44:48,390
manufacturers discount and $17
from India. Same box same plant.

2755
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:49,710
Adam Curry: Best Price.

2756
02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:53,310
John C Dvorak: Best Price.
Anyway note if you travel

2757
02:44:53,310 --> 02:44:57,210
outside the US is legal to bring
back drugs most drugs. I've

2758
02:44:57,690 --> 02:45:01,080
brought my insulin back from
Canada and he goes on For the

2759
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:04,320
first time in seven years, I'm
not hitting my $7,500 individual

2760
02:45:04,320 --> 02:45:07,260
deductible. Prior to sourcing
out of the US I would hit

2761
02:45:07,290 --> 02:45:11,280
deductible by May each year.
Yes, it can be a bit sketchy at

2762
02:45:11,280 --> 02:45:14,490
times, but take your time and
educate yourself and you can get

2763
02:45:15,330 --> 02:45:20,430
good results. So it's actually
longer than that, but that'll be

2764
02:45:20,430 --> 02:45:21,060
the gist of it.

2765
02:45:21,870 --> 02:45:24,960
Adam Curry: Then we have 1000
from log driver in Edmonton,

2766
02:45:24,990 --> 02:45:29,340
Alberta, Canada, and boy does he
have a long note I shall

2767
02:45:29,340 --> 02:45:31,920
truncate here and there in the
morning gentlemen, like a sea

2768
02:45:31,920 --> 02:45:35,610
lamprey invading the Great Lakes
sucking the blood from poor

2769
02:45:35,610 --> 02:45:39,270
innocent rainbow trout and coho
salmon. I have listened without

2770
02:45:39,270 --> 02:45:43,080
contribution for far too long.
It was time to wash the blood

2771
02:45:43,080 --> 02:45:46,890
from my mouth and read myself
with the awful iron taste once

2772
02:45:46,890 --> 02:45:50,310
and for all with that, here's 10
Fresh Benjamins for you guys.

2773
02:45:50,310 --> 02:45:54,180
Yes, it might have taken an
extra 222 Nice three loonies and

2774
02:45:54,180 --> 02:45:57,630
a few extra cents thanks to do
nevertheless, it's money well

2775
02:45:57,630 --> 02:46:01,560
spent. About two decades ago,
Ricky from Trailer Park Boys

2776
02:46:01,560 --> 02:46:03,960
taught me that even when the
world looks like a tropical

2777
02:46:03,960 --> 02:46:06,990
earthquake blew through here.
Life really just boils down to

2778
02:46:06,990 --> 02:46:11,010
the five survival of the fitness
boys and yes, supply and command

2779
02:46:11,010 --> 02:46:13,410
keeps the economy rolling, but
it doesn't take rocket

2780
02:46:13,410 --> 02:46:18,240
appliances to get your grade 10
By that I mean thank you for the

2781
02:46:18,240 --> 02:46:21,870
opportunity to get to birdstone
at once with my donation picking

2782
02:46:21,870 --> 02:46:24,840
up a PhD from the school have no
agenda. It's not a school from

2783
02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:27,960
no agenda while simultaneously
becoming a knight in the process

2784
02:46:27,960 --> 02:46:32,280
is super radical and totally far
out, man. The very moment I

2785
02:46:32,280 --> 02:46:34,920
clicked on donate, I knew deep
down inside that I had passed

2786
02:46:34,920 --> 02:46:39,630
with flying carpets. You should
do a podcast. Seriously. If you

2787
02:46:39,630 --> 02:46:42,780
can talk this way you should do
a podcast, Mr. Dvorak. Mr. Curry

2788
02:46:42,780 --> 02:46:45,840
merci beaucoup for all you do
and it will hopefully continue

2789
02:46:45,840 --> 02:46:48,660
to do for you and hopefully
we'll continue to do for years

2790
02:46:48,660 --> 02:46:52,860
to come respectfully your friend
Lee listener north of the 49th

2791
02:46:52,860 --> 02:47:03,300
parallel log driver. PS Would
you kindly Knight me as sir

2792
02:47:03,300 --> 02:47:07,230
Waltz of the log driver at the
roundtable? I will take a cold

2793
02:47:07,230 --> 02:47:12,330
crisp Pilsner from hi I own a
pizza for Miss B's and a couple

2794
02:47:12,330 --> 02:47:18,240
of country tunes to play if
there's a jukebox. Cheers. Yes,

2795
02:47:18,930 --> 02:47:20,370
I have all of that written down.

2796
02:47:22,110 --> 02:47:26,220
John C Dvorak: Okay, so now we
have a kind of a double donation

2797
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:31,920
$1,000 from Sir Matt Decker and
$1,000 from Brittany Decker. And

2798
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:37,830
they came in kinda like this.
Okay, and so one note Wow. With

2799
02:47:37,830 --> 02:47:41,430
these donations my smokin hot
wife Brittany and I will have

2800
02:47:41,430 --> 02:47:44,280
graduated the PhD in media
deconstruction from the best

2801
02:47:44,280 --> 02:47:46,680
podcasts in the university
according to the Muller report.

2802
02:47:46,680 --> 02:47:49,620
Is there a better birthday gift
than that? Britney's birthday is

2803
02:47:49,620 --> 02:47:52,680
today? Oh, please give her a
biscuit for her birthday.

2804
02:47:52,740 --> 02:47:54,360
Adam Curry: Oh, I missed the
biscuit. Can I have some

2805
02:47:54,360 --> 02:47:59,490
biscuits over here please?
Biscuits. Hello biscuits. No no

2806
02:47:59,490 --> 02:48:02,070
that's yesterday's biscuits.
This Yeah, that's the one

2807
02:48:02,100 --> 02:48:04,890
Unknown: they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. Thank

2808
02:48:04,890 --> 02:48:05,100
you.

2809
02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:09,360
John C Dvorak: Good job. With
this birthday PhD donation

2810
02:48:09,360 --> 02:48:12,450
please Dame her Dame Brittany
and have a birthday pie and mac

2811
02:48:12,450 --> 02:48:15,540
and cheese at the round table.
Additionally, I will become a

2812
02:48:15,540 --> 02:48:19,320
Baronet. I would like to be
known as Baronet Matt Decker.

2813
02:48:19,860 --> 02:48:23,820
Shout out to the Wednesday
Webster Kern County whet your

2814
02:48:23,820 --> 02:48:28,320
whistle meetups. They're like a
partay. Lastly, shameless plug

2815
02:48:28,320 --> 02:48:31,200
for the Fort Dodge Firemen's
Balta historical aeromar

2816
02:48:31,200 --> 02:48:35,250
ballroom November 18. The park
tornadoes are gonna play and

2817
02:48:35,250 --> 02:48:39,930
rock all night long. Pork
tornadoes. Porque tornadoes.com

2818
02:48:40,680 --> 02:48:44,100
Okay, can I get a smokin hot
wife jingle and a mac and cheese

2819
02:48:44,100 --> 02:48:48,210
for Britney and a Trump Bing
Bing bong bong bing boom boom.

2820
02:48:48,360 --> 02:48:51,000
Jayla for me. Love you made it
sir. Matt.

2821
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:04,290
Unknown: Bing Bong, bong bing
bing mac and cheese. Mac and

2822
02:49:04,290 --> 02:49:04,980
cheese

2823
02:49:05,160 --> 02:49:08,910
Adam Curry: by iron Rand. Thank
you both. That's very kind of

2824
02:49:08,910 --> 02:49:12,780
you both to do that. Anonymous
Los Angeles California 1000 In

2825
02:49:12,780 --> 02:49:17,070
the morning gentlemen, PhD me
and well earned. Okay. First

2826
02:49:17,070 --> 02:49:19,920
time donor followers since Adams
first Rogan appearance been a

2827
02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:23,820
douche since after 10 plus years
in media thinking a PhD in

2828
02:49:23,820 --> 02:49:27,090
Philosophy emphasizing media
deconstruction is the perfect

2829
02:49:27,090 --> 02:49:32,070
thing to hold above my Psycho
media colleague heads. I'm

2830
02:49:32,070 --> 02:49:34,890
kidding. They're not psychos
that California media personnel

2831
02:49:34,890 --> 02:49:38,160
and very fine people on both
sides. Ha. It must be nice to

2832
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:41,340
live in lala land 24/7 At least
until the draft letter comes for

2833
02:49:41,340 --> 02:49:44,610
the kids. Yes, they are worried
No, they still can't figure out

2834
02:49:44,610 --> 02:49:47,250
why things are falling apart.
According to them. Biden was

2835
02:49:47,250 --> 02:49:50,370
supposed to fix everything go
figure. Thanks for being the

2836
02:49:50,370 --> 02:49:53,160
sanity chiefs in charge for
keeping my boots on the ground

2837
02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:56,100
while my colleagues and friends
were carried away. Next year is

2838
02:49:56,100 --> 02:49:59,310
going to be off the rails.
Thankfully, the no agenda train

2839
02:49:59,310 --> 02:50:02,880
has off road tracks See y'all
out there aren't the knighthoods

2840
02:50:02,880 --> 02:50:06,030
and pH Oh are the knighthoods
and PhDs different yes they are

2841
02:50:06,030 --> 02:50:09,510
but you get both if not sir
Geist available yes it's

2842
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:13,140
available if already use are
hidden hurts hopefully works as

2843
02:50:13,140 --> 02:50:15,570
well if none of these work I'll
figure it out on the next

2844
02:50:15,570 --> 02:50:22,530
donation dee doo dee doo Deus
relationship jobs and life and

2845
02:50:22,530 --> 02:50:26,640
goat karma please wing in a
prayer all the karma, all the

2846
02:50:26,640 --> 02:50:29,610
primary karma you can give it as
needed. Thanks for counting and

2847
02:50:29,610 --> 02:50:33,930
counting blow anonymous in Los
Angeles. Yes, well, we will sum

2848
02:50:33,930 --> 02:50:37,440
those up by giving you the jobs
and the goat in one guy jobs,

2849
02:50:37,590 --> 02:50:40,200
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

2850
02:50:40,230 --> 02:50:41,790
Let's vote for jobs.

2851
02:50:45,480 --> 02:50:46,800
Adam Curry: That was a fun
donation.

2852
02:50:47,580 --> 02:50:49,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, like that's
it was it was kind of fun like

2853
02:50:49,800 --> 02:50:53,310
that. So he's obviously a
journalist or somebody works in

2854
02:50:53,310 --> 02:50:57,480
media. It could be a broadcast
or print. Yeah. And he's

2855
02:50:57,480 --> 02:51:00,660
embarrassed because he knows
that his name would get out

2856
02:51:00,660 --> 02:51:04,620
there and he'd be excreted by
his left wing colleagues. It

2857
02:51:04,620 --> 02:51:08,400
reminds me too many stories
today. But no, you're giving a

2858
02:51:08,400 --> 02:51:13,980
speech to a bunch of journalists
in some one of these companies

2859
02:51:13,980 --> 02:51:16,860
that likes a conglomerate of
newspapers just like the Hearst

2860
02:51:17,160 --> 02:51:21,210
mall Hearst Corporation. And I'm
talking to these guys and I'm

2861
02:51:21,210 --> 02:51:24,450
talking about the bias in the
media. And I sit there for

2862
02:51:24,450 --> 02:51:27,210
example, how many of you are
Democrats and probably vote

2863
02:51:27,210 --> 02:51:31,200
Democrat? All the hands went up?
How many Republicans? No hands

2864
02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:35,550
go up. I said was there's my
point so I give this talk and

2865
02:51:35,550 --> 02:51:37,470
then after the talk, somebody
comes up to

2866
02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:39,690
Adam Curry: me Oh, and says,
Yeah, I didn't want to raise my

2867
02:51:39,690 --> 02:51:42,150
hand. I was afraid. Yeah, it's

2868
02:51:42,150 --> 02:51:45,720
John C Dvorak: exactly what he
said. I said I would have raised

2869
02:51:45,720 --> 02:51:50,910
my hand but you see why I did.
So that's what we have here we

2870
02:51:50,910 --> 02:51:55,080
have the situation this is
terrible. That's not good. It

2871
02:51:55,080 --> 02:51:58,020
should be balanced we should
have in half as many of it

2872
02:51:58,020 --> 02:52:00,810
should be the political spectrum
should be diversified there

2873
02:52:00,810 --> 02:52:07,200
should be equity. Dave nice next
on the list and equity. You said

2874
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:12,450
equity equity. So Dame nights on
the list and she sent actually a

2875
02:52:12,450 --> 02:52:17,730
check and a note and a check the
note is all her accounting and

2876
02:52:17,730 --> 02:52:22,080
is pretty elaborate on the check
and she says with this donation

2877
02:52:22,080 --> 02:52:27,810
I become Baroness Knight
territory, sight summit Alaska.

2878
02:52:28,500 --> 02:52:32,370
And then as she says the bottom
sights, doggedness strollers

2879
02:52:32,370 --> 02:52:35,250
they've been a little girl yay
she wants further for her

2880
02:52:35,250 --> 02:52:41,280
jingles Love and Light Baroness
night, lovey a minute. So dog

2881
02:52:41,280 --> 02:52:44,970
Adam Curry: in a stroller is not
a jingle that's a two and a half

2882
02:52:44,970 --> 02:52:49,050
minute song but for you future
Baroness night I cut out the

2883
02:52:49,050 --> 02:52:49,830
important part

2884
02:53:08,250 --> 02:53:12,390
you go. No I did it for you and
there he is. And of show mixer

2885
02:53:12,390 --> 02:53:15,330
extraordinaire and donating
today he has under Show mix for

2886
02:53:15,330 --> 02:53:20,310
us as well. Gonzalez from
Houston Texas. 333 is our final

2887
02:53:20,310 --> 02:53:22,650
executive producer in the
morning gents. This donation is

2888
02:53:22,650 --> 02:53:26,580
in recognition of my darling
wife, Dame Sarah for her

2889
02:53:26,580 --> 02:53:30,030
birthday on Tuesday. She's on
the list. I've met I've met both

2890
02:53:30,030 --> 02:53:33,690
of them and their kids beautiful
family. She's the finest wife

2891
02:53:33,690 --> 02:53:37,440
and mother that a family could
hope for and I am continuously

2892
02:53:37,440 --> 02:53:39,900
blessed to have her in my life.
Plus,

2893
02:53:40,260 --> 02:53:41,070
John C Dvorak: she's hot.

2894
02:53:41,850 --> 02:53:46,290
Adam Curry: Thank you go.

2895
02:53:47,310 --> 02:53:50,190
John C Dvorak: And we go to
Linda IUPAC and in Lakewood

2896
02:53:50,190 --> 02:53:55,530
Colorado jobs karma she's asking
for for a remarkable resume that

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gets results go to Image makers
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resume and job search needs.
That's image makers Inc with a

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k.com or you know that thing,
find Linden Lu patcon on the

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02:54:05,850 --> 02:54:08,820
producer list, click on it.
Jobs,

2901
02:54:08,970 --> 02:54:15,480
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
let's harm.

2902
02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:21,060
Adam Curry: And then we have one
more. We only had two Associate

2903
02:54:21,060 --> 02:54:23,910
Executive Producers Linda and
Michael Earl from Clarksville,

2904
02:54:23,910 --> 02:54:28,110
Tennessee, who did not supply a
note and we appreciate it

2905
02:54:28,140 --> 02:54:32,820
regardless of the lack of
notice. We've got some meetups

2906
02:54:32,820 --> 02:54:35,850
we do have our graduates to
welcome to the stage. We of

2907
02:54:35,850 --> 02:54:40,200
course right now want to thank
everyone who came in under $50.

2908
02:54:40,380 --> 02:54:43,200
That is typically for complete
anonymity since we don't read

2909
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:47,070
any of those. And also anyone
who was on the sustaining

2910
02:54:47,070 --> 02:54:51,090
donations. These are recurring
donations that you can set up

2911
02:54:51,090 --> 02:54:54,840
yourself. And they're important
because it does keep us going

2912
02:54:54,840 --> 02:54:58,290
when you watch after the year
after the end of the year. The

2913
02:54:58,290 --> 02:55:01,620
donation segments will get
shorter And if you'd like to

2914
02:55:02,250 --> 02:55:05,490
learn about that go to no agenda
donations.com Or we still have

2915
02:55:05,490 --> 02:55:06,060
available

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02:55:06,090 --> 02:55:09,750
Unknown: devora.org/n A and

2917
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:12,270
Adam Curry: John will take us
through the 50s. So

2918
02:55:12,270 --> 02:55:15,270
John C Dvorak: anyways, Benjamin
netus in San Francisco,

2919
02:55:15,270 --> 02:55:20,730
California 196. Curious number.
He does mention there's the San

2920
02:55:20,730 --> 02:55:23,220
Francisco meetup. We'll be
mentioning it later in the show.

2921
02:55:23,580 --> 02:55:27,060
Saturday the 18th starting
around 2pm at the sunset

2922
02:55:27,060 --> 02:55:34,350
reservoir Brewer. Bryce Lin APO
is floating around in the

2923
02:55:34,350 --> 02:55:40,680
military, I'm guessing Semper
Fi, he says $100. He does have a

2924
02:55:40,680 --> 02:55:44,490
long note to which we don't read
at the segment, but he wants

2925
02:55:44,490 --> 02:55:48,540
everyone to read the crowd Study
of the Popular mind by Gustavo

2926
02:55:48,570 --> 02:55:51,810
Lavon. At 98 Isn't

2927
02:55:51,810 --> 02:55:55,650
Adam Curry: that isn't that part
of that was the work that was

2928
02:55:55,650 --> 02:56:02,160
done before Mateus. De Smet came
out with the his theory of what

2929
02:56:02,160 --> 02:56:06,360
was it? Remember during COVID
mass formation?

2930
02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:08,340
John C Dvorak: Oh yes. Mass E
ratio?

2931
02:56:08,790 --> 02:56:10,710
Adam Curry: Yes, he refers to
Gustaf Lavon.

2932
02:56:11,550 --> 02:56:12,480
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
interesting.

2933
02:56:12,510 --> 02:56:14,670
Adam Curry: That's my brain.
Right there.

2934
02:56:14,700 --> 02:56:17,850
John C Dvorak: Here's what's
disturbing about about Mr. Lin.

2935
02:56:18,750 --> 02:56:21,720
I discovered no agenda on a
Reddit search for quote unquote

2936
02:56:21,720 --> 02:56:23,640
conspiracy podcasts,

2937
02:56:23,640 --> 02:56:27,210
Adam Curry: brother. Well, there
you go. Good work a good work a

2938
02:56:27,210 --> 02:56:31,800
John C Dvorak: schweickert in
Wichita, Kansas. 808. Kevin

2939
02:56:31,800 --> 02:56:36,870
McLaughlin, in Concord, North
Carolina, the Archduke Aluna

2940
02:56:37,320 --> 02:56:44,040
808. Sir, Dr. Sir, becoming
heroic in Scharer. Ville,

2941
02:56:44,040 --> 02:56:50,160
Indiana 6886. By the way, this
is a very shortlist, shortlist,

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02:56:50,160 --> 02:56:55,230
Barry shortlist jiggly boobs
6886 What's your house she got

2943
02:56:55,410 --> 02:57:02,130
to think about that jiggly David
Jarman. 66 in North tour mudra.

2944
02:57:02,640 --> 02:57:06,900
New South Wales, Kevin
McLaughlin against 606 Small

2945
02:57:06,990 --> 02:57:11,130
boob donation is the Archduke of
Luna lover of American boobs,

2946
02:57:11,580 --> 02:57:16,800
sir ladyboy in Mount Laurel, New
Jersey, 606 Marvin McIntyre,

2947
02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:21,720
also in Mount Laurel, New
Jersey, coincidentally 606 But a

2948
02:57:21,720 --> 02:57:25,980
small boobs in Mount Laurel,
concrete logic podcast.

2949
02:57:26,850 --> 02:57:32,910
Richmond, Virginia 5110. Craig,
Greg Greg Mellon in Glenmore,

2950
02:57:32,910 --> 02:57:38,430
Pennsylvania 5047. He says, By
the way, thanks for the book

2951
02:57:38,430 --> 02:57:41,970
recommendation of The Day After
Roswell so we don't talk about

2952
02:57:41,970 --> 02:57:46,260
anymore nobody wants to talk
about Michelle petty Grand

2953
02:57:46,260 --> 02:57:50,400
Forks, North Dakota, he kicks
off the $50 donors, and it would

2954
02:57:50,400 --> 02:57:54,390
damage to give name and location
location, Michelle Petty's on

2955
02:57:54,390 --> 02:57:58,590
the top of the list my god Retha
Eden hood, in orange Vale

2956
02:57:58,590 --> 02:58:02,850
California. Andrew Grasso in
Mineola, New York, Tim del

2957
02:58:02,850 --> 02:58:07,920
Vecchio, in blend in
Pennsylvania John spade in

2958
02:58:07,920 --> 02:58:12,000
Edmond, Oklahoma, Cory
Cunningham and Warren Warren

2959
02:58:12,060 --> 02:58:18,600
ton, Virginia, Linda Baker in
Quakertown, Pennsylvania. I

2960
02:58:18,600 --> 02:58:23,760
guess night Brandon introduced
her to the podcast.

2961
02:58:23,820 --> 02:58:24,690
Adam Curry: Oh nice.

2962
02:58:25,920 --> 02:58:29,490
John C Dvorak: Gary Mauer in
Woodland Hills, California. And

2963
02:58:29,490 --> 02:58:32,940
last on the list is Stephen
King. Last on a very short list

2964
02:58:32,940 --> 02:58:36,600
of 33 donors out of the millions
of people that listened to the

2965
02:58:36,600 --> 02:58:41,730
show. Box Elder South Dakota is
where he's located in a holiday

2966
02:58:41,730 --> 02:58:43,770
weekend. You're helping us out
it's a holiday

2967
02:58:43,770 --> 02:58:44,430
Adam Curry: weekend.

2968
02:58:44,610 --> 02:58:45,870
John C Dvorak: It's a holiday
weekend. It's

2969
02:58:46,440 --> 02:58:48,810
Adam Curry: a weekend holiday
weekend. Thank you again to our

2970
02:58:48,810 --> 02:58:51,180
executive and Associate
Executive Producers those titles

2971
02:58:51,180 --> 02:58:54,210
are real by the way, just as
your night and game titles are

2972
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but the cool thing about
executive and Associate

2973
02:58:56,100 --> 02:58:58,950
Executive Producers you can use
it anywhere where these credits

2974
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are recognized. You can go back
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and your movies. You could also
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add it to your resume or of
course go to IMDb and start a

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02:59:13,230 --> 02:59:15,720
profile there if you don't
already have one thank you again

2979
02:59:15,990 --> 02:59:20,370
for supporting the no agenda
Show episode 1607 Our formula

2980
02:59:20,370 --> 02:59:24,300
Unknown: is this we go out we
get people in the mouth

2981
02:59:36,990 --> 02:59:39,210
John C Dvorak: and we do have a
make good note that you should

2982
02:59:39,210 --> 02:59:40,590
read. Yes

2983
02:59:40,590 --> 02:59:46,530
Adam Curry: the make good notes.
Charged spleen charged spleen

2984
02:59:46,530 --> 02:59:52,590
Hey, on show Hey, I'm show 1589
genre shorthand written letter

2985
02:59:52,590 --> 02:59:56,730
I'd sent along with two cash
donations to $50.33 each to de

2986
02:59:56,730 --> 03:00:00,630
Deus delightful Dave The first
and late lady Hey, but John

2987
03:00:00,630 --> 03:00:04,440
credited the full 166 that lay
lady lay and only she was

2988
03:00:04,440 --> 03:00:08,370
deduced please correct the
record and credit 5033 to

2989
03:00:08,370 --> 03:00:14,910
delightful Dave The first and
dee doo dee doo Stan is our

2990
03:00:14,910 --> 03:00:16,110
pleasure to do that

2991
03:00:23,310 --> 03:00:26,610
wow a very short list today the
only birthdays we have are sir

2992
03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:29,550
Matt Decker wishes his smokin
hot wife Brittany a happy

2993
03:00:29,550 --> 03:00:32,700
birthday. Her birthday is today.
And as you heard earlier,

2994
03:00:32,730 --> 03:00:36,840
Rolando Gonzalez wishes his
darling wife named Sarah Happy

2995
03:00:36,840 --> 03:00:40,230
Birthday. First is on Tuesday.
Happy birthday for everybody

2996
03:00:40,230 --> 03:00:46,440
here the best podcast in the
universe. Change I

2997
03:00:51,660 --> 03:00:55,950
don't want to be induced. And we
have several changes today

2998
03:00:55,950 --> 03:00:59,730
thanks to an additional 1000 in
support of the no agenda show

2999
03:00:59,730 --> 03:01:03,750
sir Matt Decker, now becomes
Baronet sir Matt Decker and Dame

3000
03:01:03,750 --> 03:01:08,760
night becomes Baroness night of
sight summit Alaska. And thank

3001
03:01:08,760 --> 03:01:11,970
you both for supporting no
agenda. We really do appreciate

3002
03:01:11,970 --> 03:01:16,140
it. Now for our PhD graduates
Jake Scott, Michael D. Walker,

3003
03:01:16,140 --> 03:01:20,160
Gonzo Shimamura Serie A of the
tax domain log driver Matt

3004
03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:23,190
Decker, Brittany Decker and
anonymous. Please them up here

3005
03:01:23,190 --> 03:01:29,130
on the podium to receive your
PhDs welcome, new no HD MD PhDs

3006
03:01:29,130 --> 03:01:33,000
and the society of learning
person's the path to this high

3007
03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:35,700
academic honor for some of you
has been a long if not costly

3008
03:01:35,700 --> 03:01:39,000
one. Some of the price have been
paid by your hard earned wisdom

3009
03:01:39,000 --> 03:01:42,000
and some of the other ways but
today is not an end it is only a

3010
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:44,760
beginning. From this point
forward. Go forth and spread the

3011
03:01:44,760 --> 03:01:48,990
no agenda word far and wide. We
will not be silenced. We will

3012
03:01:48,990 --> 03:01:52,980
not be deterred. The truth is
out there. Now go and find it.

3013
03:01:53,160 --> 03:01:58,020
new PhDs. I think that was
pretty good. It's getting

3014
03:01:58,020 --> 03:02:00,240
better. Yeah, it's getting
there. It's getting networking.

3015
03:02:00,840 --> 03:02:04,890
No one so I'm sorry. That's too
early. I got confused. We have

3016
03:02:04,890 --> 03:02:07,320
some nights and a dame that's
what we need to do. There we go.

3017
03:02:07,350 --> 03:02:11,910
Here's my here's a blade for
you. Thank you. And there she

3018
03:02:11,910 --> 03:02:16,830
is. We've got Britney Decker,
Mike Walker, Paul Green and log

3019
03:02:16,830 --> 03:02:19,590
driver all up on the podium.
Thank you very much for your

3020
03:02:19,590 --> 03:02:22,140
support. I have no agenda and
I'm very proud to pronounce the

3021
03:02:22,140 --> 03:02:26,490
Kate the as Dame Brittany
sirloin of beef sir right foot

3022
03:02:26,490 --> 03:02:30,570
Joy wrangler wiggle wagon sir
waltz on the log driver for you.

3023
03:02:30,570 --> 03:02:33,600
We've got hookers and blow rent
boys and Chardonnay along with

3024
03:02:33,840 --> 03:02:36,990
prime rib of beef and the St.
Augustine Ice House called fold

3025
03:02:36,990 --> 03:02:40,800
fashion and a fiddlehead IPA
chaser grasshopper pie, called

3026
03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:43,710
Chris Pilsner from Ohio and a
piece for Miss bees and a couple

3027
03:02:43,710 --> 03:02:46,800
of country tunes on the jukebox.
And of course along with that

3028
03:02:46,800 --> 03:02:49,380
bong hits and bourbon sparkling
cider and S word ginger ale and

3029
03:02:49,380 --> 03:02:53,100
dribbles breast milk and pablum
and mutton to me. That's right,

3030
03:02:53,640 --> 03:02:56,550
you can go over to no agenda
rings.com That's where you can

3031
03:02:56,580 --> 03:03:01,200
select these ring of your size
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will also send along some wax to
seal your important

3033
03:03:04,080 --> 03:03:07,080
correspondence with and the
official certificate of

3034
03:03:07,080 --> 03:03:10,440
authenticity as the also where
you can give us the name you

3035
03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:13,890
want on your PhD. Thank you all
for supporting no agenda.

3036
03:03:20,280 --> 03:03:23,790
Yes, we have several meetups to
talk about the first here's a

3037
03:03:23,790 --> 03:03:26,070
report from Pensacola, Florida,

3038
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:28,710
Unknown: everybody. Thank you so
much for joining us in the

3039
03:03:28,710 --> 03:03:32,430
morning, Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. You are absolutely the

3040
03:03:32,430 --> 03:03:35,370
best and the finest and you
brought all these excellent

3041
03:03:35,370 --> 03:03:38,220
people together here in
Pensacola, Florida. This is Dame

3042
03:03:38,220 --> 03:03:41,700
faith first and the douchebags
and I'm passing you off

3043
03:03:41,940 --> 03:03:45,060
passes in the morning, and the
torch has been passed to a new

3044
03:03:45,060 --> 03:03:49,500
generation as we had less than
lessons and nut fisting for the

3045
03:03:49,500 --> 03:03:49,800
group.

3046
03:03:51,930 --> 03:03:52,710
I really didn't have

3047
03:03:54,930 --> 03:03:58,590
a lot of proper technique. They
didn't make it into my mouth. So

3048
03:03:59,430 --> 03:04:03,660
freedom isn't free. Cause Bucko
five in the morning, we had a

3049
03:04:03,660 --> 03:04:04,380
great time.

3050
03:04:04,920 --> 03:04:07,110
I'm just Joe funny. What do we
do next?

3051
03:04:08,820 --> 03:04:09,870
Adam Curry: Drunk or not drunk,

3052
03:04:09,900 --> 03:04:12,540
Unknown: and I just saw the
movie police state from genetic

3053
03:04:12,540 --> 03:04:16,890
diseases. I recommend everybody
to watch it. So I'm Mike. I've

3054
03:04:16,890 --> 03:04:19,890
heard that there are dicks
douchebags and assholes in the

3055
03:04:19,890 --> 03:04:23,130
world. I'm typically an asshole,
but I was a douchebag today

3056
03:04:23,130 --> 03:04:26,730
because I didn't give money to
this group. But I only give

3057
03:04:26,730 --> 03:04:27,690
money to Jesus.

3058
03:04:29,040 --> 03:04:31,770
Wow, in the morning, I'm a
douchebag and everybody thinks

3059
03:04:31,770 --> 03:04:35,070
I'm a spook in the morning to
John and my favorite old dudes

3060
03:04:36,120 --> 03:04:38,250
sounding off here in Pensacola,
Florida.

3061
03:04:38,280 --> 03:04:41,070
Adam Curry: Can I just remind
everybody if you're douchebag me

3062
03:04:41,070 --> 03:04:45,450
I shouldn't be proud of that.
It's not cool. Doesn't doesn't

3063
03:04:45,450 --> 03:04:46,290
make me feel good.

3064
03:04:46,890 --> 03:04:51,030
Unknown: Okay, this is terrible
way. USL Q SL good buddy.

3065
03:04:51,240 --> 03:04:52,890
Adam Curry: This is the
Knoxville meet up this

3066
03:04:53,130 --> 03:04:56,100
Unknown: Knoxville Tennessee.
Meet Up report.

3067
03:04:56,460 --> 03:05:00,720
Sir It's easy to hear. Shit. My
s.com More than no agenda

3068
03:05:00,720 --> 03:05:05,040
nation. This is the night of
twin peaks are Billy Bones and

3069
03:05:05,040 --> 03:05:09,810
the quest to find a dame for my
castle continues. Hi, this is

3070
03:05:09,870 --> 03:05:11,760
damn Apple Dumplin in the
morning

3071
03:05:11,820 --> 03:05:16,560
in the morning. This is Adam in
the morning. I from share on in

3072
03:05:16,560 --> 03:05:20,010
the morning in the morning. This
is Vagabond recon and I know I'm

3073
03:05:20,010 --> 03:05:22,980
not a spook don't believe him.
Good day.

3074
03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:26,940
Adam Curry: All right now here's
what's coming up. The North

3075
03:05:26,940 --> 03:05:27,660
Georgia meet up

3076
03:05:28,650 --> 03:05:31,680
Unknown: in the morning North
Georgia slave sir Bob here to do

3077
03:05:31,680 --> 03:05:34,050
the Thanksgiving holiday. The
North Georgia monthly meetup is

3078
03:05:34,050 --> 03:05:37,590
gonna be this Thursday the 16th
Cherry Street Brewery at Halcyon

3079
03:05:37,770 --> 03:05:41,190
not Vickery. You know who you
are tinfoil hat. So come out and

3080
03:05:41,190 --> 03:05:43,800
join us for some good food,
drinks and talk with people who

3081
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:45,900
think the same way you do if we
have to spend the holidays with

3082
03:05:45,900 --> 03:05:48,150
your crazy families. Keep some
nights and games you know

3083
03:05:48,150 --> 03:05:50,700
there's always some crazy spoof
surfing around as well. And if

3084
03:05:50,700 --> 03:05:53,700
you're lucky, you might get to
meet Dr. Sir Mike crouch. He

3085
03:05:53,700 --> 03:05:56,760
never disappoints, but there's
gotta know Jenna meetup.com And

3086
03:05:56,760 --> 03:05:58,830
make sure to RSVP so we get an
accurate head count for the

3087
03:05:58,830 --> 03:06:01,080
restaurant. You see all this
Thursday and remember,

3088
03:06:01,410 --> 03:06:02,580
connection is protection.

3089
03:06:02,610 --> 03:06:05,190
Adam Curry: That's right. And
today you can get some

3090
03:06:05,190 --> 03:06:09,990
connection and protection at 505
My scars are psychosomatic you

3091
03:06:09,990 --> 03:06:13,020
if you hurry, that's an
albuquerque new mexico urban 360

3092
03:06:13,020 --> 03:06:16,560
Pizza the Friendsgiving in
Fredericksburg, Virginia is well

3093
03:06:16,560 --> 03:06:20,160
underway maybe even over that
said Red Dragon brewery but call

3094
03:06:20,160 --> 03:06:23,880
ahead are called behind see if
they're still there. We have the

3095
03:06:23,880 --> 03:06:27,990
November indie no agenda and
strategy meet up come on man

3096
03:06:28,020 --> 03:06:31,590
that's underway now at dugout
bar in Indianapolis, Indiana.

3097
03:06:31,800 --> 03:06:35,400
The hills and valleys the next
episode at the hearing from Beth

3098
03:06:35,400 --> 03:06:38,340
and doll in the Netherlands took
place today. Hopefully we'll get

3099
03:06:38,340 --> 03:06:42,390
a nice report from them on
Tuesday friends giving Taco

3100
03:06:42,390 --> 03:06:47,490
Tuesday potluck and outdoor
movie at Fred lobster Fred

3101
03:06:47,490 --> 03:06:50,520
lobster International Speedway
that's in Gladewater Texas Oh

3102
03:06:50,520 --> 03:06:55,320
dirty Jersey horrors doing that
one cool. On Tuesday the 14th

3103
03:06:55,320 --> 03:06:59,070
JCD leave your phones at home
meet up Tuesday night at six

3104
03:06:59,070 --> 03:07:02,070
o'clock and Lindbergh's tavern
home of the world's best ketchup

3105
03:07:02,070 --> 03:07:05,910
Springfield, Missouri. We have
the pre Thanksgiving tailgate at

3106
03:07:05,910 --> 03:07:10,890
530. That's on is it's Thursday.
The 16th is that Thanksgiving?

3107
03:07:11,640 --> 03:07:12,570
That was the third third?

3108
03:07:13,050 --> 03:07:15,360
John C Dvorak: Thanksgiving.
Yeah,

3109
03:07:15,390 --> 03:07:17,370
Adam Curry: I was the principal
pre Thanksgiving tailgate

3110
03:07:17,370 --> 03:07:20,580
brewery, Nashville Tennessee,
and the North Georgia monthly

3111
03:07:20,580 --> 03:07:23,820
meet up six o'clock at Cherry
Steve Buscemi street brewing in

3112
03:07:23,820 --> 03:07:27,660
Alpharetta, Georgia. Charlotte's
thirsty Third Thursday monthly

3113
03:07:27,660 --> 03:07:30,210
meet up seven o'clock at Ed's
Tavern in Charlotte, North

3114
03:07:30,210 --> 03:07:34,560
Carolina. And let me see but I
wanted to mention that we have

3115
03:07:34,590 --> 03:07:39,870
Houston Texas on the 18th we
also have austin texas on the

3116
03:07:39,870 --> 03:07:43,170
eighth a lot of meetups on the
18th Unbelievable how many

3117
03:07:43,170 --> 03:07:47,040
meetups there are and I will be
attending with the keeper as we

3118
03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:50,010
will also be at the Indianapolis
Indiana meetup flying out

3119
03:07:50,010 --> 03:07:53,700
special for it on December 4
There's a lot more including

3120
03:07:53,700 --> 03:07:57,900
brooklyn new york December 9
Who's going to that? I died

3121
03:07:57,900 --> 03:08:01,710
demand a report for that one.
Connections protection you can

3122
03:08:01,710 --> 03:08:04,920
get it at a no agenda meetup you
can't get it just from listening

3123
03:08:04,920 --> 03:08:08,340
to the show you get some of it,
but you have to go meet some of

3124
03:08:08,340 --> 03:08:12,510
your fellow no agenda nation get
mon nation producers find a meet

3125
03:08:12,510 --> 03:08:15,630
up go to no agenda meetups.com
If you can't find one near you

3126
03:08:15,630 --> 03:08:18,030
start one yourself. You're gonna
love it.

3127
03:08:19,980 --> 03:08:28,080
Unknown: Want to go hang out
with Dyson days you will be

3128
03:08:28,140 --> 03:08:37,770
triggered you and everybody
feels the same. It's like a bod.

3129
03:08:38,940 --> 03:08:45,960
Adam Curry: Pod J pod. I only
have one ISO. Just one. Feel

3130
03:08:45,960 --> 03:08:46,260
bad. I

3131
03:08:46,920 --> 03:08:48,150
John C Dvorak: feel bad for you.
One,

3132
03:08:48,240 --> 03:08:52,230
Unknown: three. markable. Like
it,

3133
03:08:52,440 --> 03:08:59,310
John C Dvorak: you like it? I
have three. Let's start with the

3134
03:09:00,480 --> 03:09:04,830
O'Reilly Bill O'Reilly. I agree.
100% I think that's great

3135
03:09:04,830 --> 03:09:15,060
analysis too long. Too long.
Okay, let's do of the dish. This

3136
03:09:15,060 --> 03:09:17,610
is what a classic. This is an
old one I got from the archives.

3137
03:09:17,610 --> 03:09:19,890
This is the Star Wars clip. Star

3138
03:09:19,890 --> 03:09:22,740
Unknown: Wars everyone's going
nuts about.

3139
03:09:24,000 --> 03:09:27,450
Adam Curry: Remember that? Yes.
I do remember that one? Yes.

3140
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:31,740
John C Dvorak: But an idiot.
Okay, there's just one and that

3141
03:09:31,740 --> 03:09:32,610
means something.

3142
03:09:32,940 --> 03:09:34,110
Unknown: And that means
something.

3143
03:09:35,760 --> 03:09:38,190
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
mean, Star Wars is good, but

3144
03:09:38,220 --> 03:09:41,520
it's an oldie. Whereas
remarkable.

3145
03:09:41,670 --> 03:09:44,220
John C Dvorak: It's kind of
remarkable when you win with

3146
03:09:44,220 --> 03:09:44,820
one.

3147
03:09:46,020 --> 03:09:51,150
Adam Curry: It shows up with
just one and wins. That's rad.

3148
03:09:51,630 --> 03:09:52,800
Don't mess with the Pro.

3149
03:09:56,220 --> 03:09:59,040
John C Dvorak: We're running
late. Yeah, I still have time to

3150
03:09:59,040 --> 03:10:00,420
do the good news. Story.

3151
03:10:00,630 --> 03:10:03,690
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, wow. Does
it need a real news clip? Or is

3152
03:10:03,690 --> 03:10:05,700
it just a good news story? We
know it's a real

3153
03:10:05,700 --> 03:10:08,220
John C Dvorak: news clip. It's a
good news story. It's a

3154
03:10:08,220 --> 03:10:11,370
fantastic story. We need to get
somebody to do a jingle. So he

3155
03:10:11,370 --> 03:10:14,400
started we want to do these
segments every show like you

3156
03:10:14,460 --> 03:10:18,480
suggested. And this ends the
show with a good news story.

3157
03:10:18,480 --> 03:10:21,690
That's kind of cute. kind of
cute. Well, there's

3158
03:10:21,690 --> 03:10:23,190
Adam Curry: two so I don't know
what I do. I

3159
03:10:23,190 --> 03:10:25,950
John C Dvorak: was for the next
show. This is the dog story.

3160
03:10:27,870 --> 03:10:30,030
Unknown: And now back to real,
is

3161
03:10:30,090 --> 03:10:34,500
this border collies name is
Axel. Hi, Amanda Tanner says the

3162
03:10:34,500 --> 03:10:38,790
one year old rescue was meant to
be part of her family a couple

3163
03:10:38,790 --> 03:10:39,540
months ago,

3164
03:10:39,570 --> 03:10:43,800
so he jumped on my bed was kinda
like, aggressively trying to

3165
03:10:43,800 --> 03:10:45,090
wake us up. It

3166
03:10:45,090 --> 03:10:48,480
was around 545 In the morning,
she thought he needed to go

3167
03:10:48,480 --> 03:10:49,560
outside. It's my

3168
03:10:49,560 --> 03:10:52,950
husband walk although did the
sliding door, but actual did not

3169
03:10:52,980 --> 03:10:56,910
follow Him and just stopped in
front of Gabriel's door.

3170
03:10:57,150 --> 03:11:01,470
Gabrielle is her 17 year old
son. We now know he was in his

3171
03:11:01,470 --> 03:11:05,520
room panicking. He had fallen,
his vision was fuzzy and he

3172
03:11:05,520 --> 03:11:07,140
couldn't feel his right arm.

3173
03:11:07,560 --> 03:11:11,760
And then I just found my dad.
And that's when I knew something

3174
03:11:11,760 --> 03:11:16,080
was really wrong because I tried
to talk to him and I started

3175
03:11:16,080 --> 03:11:17,820
slurring my words.

3176
03:11:17,880 --> 03:11:21,060
His doctor at Memorial Hermann
says the teenager was suffering

3177
03:11:21,090 --> 03:11:22,980
a large left sided stroke.

3178
03:11:23,040 --> 03:11:26,490
He could not speak he could not
understand language, and he was

3179
03:11:26,490 --> 03:11:29,040
nearly paralyzed on the right
side of his body.

3180
03:11:29,280 --> 03:11:33,420
Over the last couple of months.
The senior at Klein oak High

3181
03:11:33,420 --> 03:11:37,350
School has made great strides in
speech and physical therapy. One

3182
03:11:37,350 --> 03:11:41,460
reason is he got medical help
quickly that morning. That's

3183
03:11:41,460 --> 03:11:46,680
thanks to Axel who's earned as
many treats as he wants

3184
03:11:46,710 --> 03:11:52,050
to me as Godsent actual is one
of nine puppies that was found.

3185
03:11:52,080 --> 03:11:56,220
He's the one that no one wanted.
He's the reject. You know, he

3186
03:11:56,220 --> 03:12:00,060
was meant to be a part of our
family. He had a purpose and

3187
03:12:00,090 --> 03:12:04,050
he's going to continue to have a
purpose. Oh.

3188
03:12:09,600 --> 03:12:12,630
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Well,

3189
03:12:12,660 --> 03:12:14,700
Unknown: I would Yes,

3190
03:12:14,760 --> 03:12:17,400
John C Dvorak: he was a news
director. I'm kicking ass with

3191
03:12:17,400 --> 03:12:18,060
that clip.

3192
03:12:18,570 --> 03:12:23,220
Adam Curry: I prefer dog having
puppies. I didn't like the sun

3193
03:12:23,220 --> 03:12:26,640
having a stroke because I
immediately felt like cold facts

3194
03:12:26,640 --> 03:12:28,980
John C Dvorak: related. Maybe?
Yeah, that felt a little bad.

3195
03:12:30,090 --> 03:12:32,970
This by the way, the sun is in
great shape. He shouldn't he's

3196
03:12:33,000 --> 03:12:34,650
like playing soccer.

3197
03:12:34,680 --> 03:12:38,640
Adam Curry: You got well they
did the dog. Yes. Well, that's

3198
03:12:38,640 --> 03:12:43,980
good. Yeah, we do need a jingle.
The good news story of the day.

3199
03:12:45,360 --> 03:12:48,870
That would be helpful. And I'm
moving my two climate change

3200
03:12:48,870 --> 03:12:53,550
clips over one which includes
Panama gonna deconstruct what's

3201
03:12:53,550 --> 03:12:58,200
going on there. Oh, yes, Panama
is happening again. We're going

3202
03:12:58,200 --> 03:13:04,110
back to the old days, I guess.
End of show mixes we've got some

3203
03:13:04,110 --> 03:13:09,240
guy Steve Sir Chris Wilson.
Gonzalez, and up next on no

3204
03:13:09,240 --> 03:13:18,030
agenda stream band drew says
they'll be episode 367. Coming

3205
03:13:18,030 --> 03:13:20,490
to you from the heart of the
Texas hill country here in FEMA

3206
03:13:20,490 --> 03:13:24,510
Region number six. I bid you
adieu and in the morning. I'm

3207
03:13:24,510 --> 03:13:25,680
Adam curry and

3208
03:13:25,680 --> 03:13:27,720
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where again, I

3209
03:13:27,720 --> 03:13:30,960
wish the veterans a good day.
Good weekend and hope everybody

3210
03:13:30,960 --> 03:13:33,990
shows back up for the Thursday
show. And we get a little more

3211
03:13:33,990 --> 03:13:36,570
donation support in general. I'm
John C. Dvorak.

3212
03:13:36,690 --> 03:13:39,150
Adam Curry: Thank you veterans
and if you see one if you no

3213
03:13:39,150 --> 03:13:43,110
one, call him up. Say hi. Walk
up to him. And remember us at

3214
03:13:43,110 --> 03:13:48,030
divorce.org/na We'll see you on
Thursday till then adios Mufasa

3215
03:13:48,030 --> 03:13:48,810
who we who we

3216
03:13:52,260 --> 03:13:55,680
Unknown: very strong shot of
being the biggest drug of all

3217
03:13:55,680 --> 03:13:56,160
times.

3218
03:13:57,810 --> 03:14:00,570
Think about how our body is
designed it's actually designed

3219
03:14:00,570 --> 03:14:02,490
to fight weight loss Big Pharma

3220
03:14:02,490 --> 03:14:05,160
Adam Curry: is added again.
They've got potent drugs like

3221
03:14:05,160 --> 03:14:06,210
this is the

3222
03:14:07,440 --> 03:14:09,720
Unknown: main difference we see
is that the decree of weight

3223
03:14:09,720 --> 03:14:14,040
loss is stronger. You stop
losing weight when you get to

3224
03:14:14,040 --> 03:14:16,470
your assembly plateau. Worse

3225
03:14:16,470 --> 03:14:16,950
Adam Curry: name?

3226
03:14:17,430 --> 03:14:18,060
Unknown: It's a good thing.

3227
03:14:18,300 --> 03:14:23,250
Do I increase my dose? What do I
do here? ozempic plateau. What

3228
03:14:23,250 --> 03:14:25,680
is the difference between hunger
and food noise?

3229
03:14:28,200 --> 03:14:29,220
Noise or food chatter

3230
03:14:29,220 --> 03:14:30,690
isn't a medical term.

3231
03:14:30,930 --> 03:14:33,150
There's a lot of tricks you can
do. The whole thing

3232
03:14:33,150 --> 03:14:34,050
John C Dvorak: is just a scam.

3233
03:14:37,110 --> 03:14:40,500
Unknown: Using a combination of
medicines can be helpful. Who's

3234
03:14:40,500 --> 03:14:41,970
gonna pay for it and how

3235
03:14:45,990 --> 03:14:51,000
much these are patients will
experience constant craving for

3236
03:14:51,000 --> 03:14:54,720
food. Patients say the drastic
change in their relationship to

3237
03:14:54,720 --> 03:14:55,950
food is worthless is

3238
03:14:55,950 --> 03:14:59,970
John C Dvorak: made. Yes, this
is a fantasy. It's fantastic.

3239
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,850
So, I have my list and you might
want to see if there's anything

3240
03:15:02,850 --> 03:15:06,120
I left out. This is the Trump
rotation and his two categories

3241
03:15:06,120 --> 03:15:08,550
is irregular and then there's
the criminal but here we go,

3242
03:15:08,550 --> 03:15:13,380
ready? Liar, incompetent,
unhinged illegitimate President

3243
03:15:13,410 --> 03:15:18,060
white supremacist, racist bully,
immature Russian agent

3244
03:15:18,120 --> 03:15:24,120
narcissist. Mean long ties,
insane tweets too much small

3245
03:15:24,120 --> 03:15:31,380
hands small penis Big Red Button
criminal. Mean racist, immature

3246
03:15:31,410 --> 03:15:38,010
sin skin runs the mob has no
money. Unstable, fatter than 239

3247
03:15:38,010 --> 03:15:42,120
pounds. Bank Robber 25th
Amendment should be instituted.

3248
03:15:42,180 --> 03:15:47,040
He hates women misogynist holds
grudges forever plays golf

3249
03:15:47,040 --> 03:15:52,920
allied obstruction of justice,
money laundering and cloud. John

3250
03:15:54,240 --> 03:15:57,210
Adam Curry: No wonder we're
making America white again.

3251
03:16:03,600 --> 03:16:09,000
Unknown: I don't care what you
say bow President Trump. He may

3252
03:16:09,000 --> 03:16:15,330
act stupid but us is he No
chump. He got one thing going on

3253
03:16:15,330 --> 03:16:19,980
in his defense. You're calling
goon do nothing because no one

3254
03:16:19,980 --> 03:16:21,240
here wants pants

3255
03:16:27,480 --> 03:16:29,910
like very much food noises

3256
03:16:29,910 --> 03:16:33,390
food chatter, emotional chatter.
I'm a little confused about the

3257
03:16:33,390 --> 03:16:34,050
whole thing food

3258
03:16:34,110 --> 03:16:37,200
noise the food chatter the
constant cravings the patient

3259
03:16:37,200 --> 03:16:39,840
experience there's some
biological reason that some

3260
03:16:39,840 --> 03:16:41,730
people experience different
amounts of

3261
03:16:41,730 --> 03:16:42,870
insulin disturbing so

3262
03:16:42,870 --> 03:16:46,050
they have a constant craving
mind for food hunger would be

3263
03:16:46,050 --> 03:16:48,480
the physiologic sensation

3264
03:16:48,570 --> 03:16:51,360
that you need to eat could not
be good for your body at all.

3265
03:16:51,360 --> 03:16:51,870
Food noise

3266
03:16:51,870 --> 03:16:55,800
or food chatter isn't a medical
term per se has been study what

3267
03:16:55,800 --> 03:16:57,990
is the difference between hunger
and food noise?

3268
03:16:58,020 --> 03:17:00,330
All it needs is a little bit to
push them over the edge.

3269
03:17:00,420 --> 03:17:04,740
It's physiologic. It's brain
science. The craving mind is

3270
03:17:04,740 --> 03:17:08,490
physiologic. It's brain science
restricting ourselves.

3271
03:17:08,790 --> 03:17:12,750
physiologic it's brain science
dropping off of stress. It's

3272
03:17:12,750 --> 03:17:16,500
physiologic it's brain science
side effects that are beneficial

3273
03:17:16,560 --> 03:17:19,740
when they lose according to
physicians

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using a combination of medicines
can be helped

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banish them and punish people
who experience kind of constant

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noise in their brain addictive
pathways and powerful cravings

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in our mind first time in their
lives. They're experiencing a

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quiet mind.

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