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Adam Curry: China because China
China China, Adam curry, John C.

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Devora. December 14 2023. This
is your award winning your

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nation media assassination
episode 1616. This

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Unknown: is no agenda,

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Adam Curry: monitoring the
informed memories and

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broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here

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in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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John C Dvorak: curry in from
Northern Silicon Valley where

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I've come to the conclusion that
Drew Barrymore is an annoying

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phony. I'm John C. Dvorak,

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Of all the
people, I would think you talk

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about Drew Barrymore would be
low, close to the bottom of the

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list. What happened? How did you
how did you even come on? I

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mean, her show was on during the
day. It's

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John C Dvorak: also on locally,
it's, it's on during the day,

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but it's also on 1130 at night.
Oh, really? Yeah. They should

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late night for some reason.

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Adam Curry: That's, I mean, does
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TV anymore?

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John C Dvorak: I do. Where do
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mean,

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Adam Curry: I mean, normal
people. I mean, the normal

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people still watch this. And
everyone like just Netflix in

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streaming of numbers. There's
numbers. There's numbers. Yeah,

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they got numbers, but it's not
like old numbers, not like

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number go

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John C Dvorak: old numbers.
Those were numbers, numbers.

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That's when we were working in
television. 100 million people

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would watch one show. We got
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Adam Curry: Service and our
money in a brown paper bag. And

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we're those days. Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: Those days are
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Adam Curry: And that was cable.
Those days are long gone. Long

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gone. Oh, man. There's so much
going on. There's a lot of fun

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things to talk about. There is
really Yes. I'm excited. Yes,

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yes, it is. This what? Well,
there's there's the obvious

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marketing that happens every it
happens once a year. Once a

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year, we got to go and we've got
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industrial complex. Once a year.
What not the militant? No, for

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the for the NDA. You know, this
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John C Dvorak: American public?
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Adam Curry: million. Yeah. So of
course, you're not gonna hear

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what's really in the bill. I
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it's another doozy. Matt gates,
though, I'll give it to him. At

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least he stood up. And he said,
No, no, no. There's a lot of

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good in here. But there's a lot
of there's some things we have

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to take out.

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Unknown: I regret that I rise in
opposition to this NDA, because

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there is a great deal of good in
it. But only in Washington, must

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we bring a bill to the floor so
that we are able to militarily

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confront China, while at the
same time embracing the policies

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that make the United States more
like China. There is no desire

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on the part of our great armed
services chairman and even the

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Democrats we worked with to have
an extension of spying

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authorities put in this bill,
when we have already seen those

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authorities just totally abused
278,000 violations of the

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existing law, as the FBI has
queried information regarding

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Americans. When the Obama
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reviewing whether or not the
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with existing law. They found
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times an hour to extend to the
authorities for good word being

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violated so that people, the FBI
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neighbors, their co workers,
their ex lovers that's not

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belong in the National Defense
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Adam Curry: Oh, Mr. Gates,
you're on the naughty list? No,

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no, no, no.

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John C Dvorak: Just stop for a
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have access to these, these
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no repercussions for abusing
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and looking up your neighbors or
looking after your ex

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girlfriends? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Now, if there's no consequences,

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no, there, there, it appears
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that's what you're going to do.
You're going to look up your

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pals and everybody in between.
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Adam Curry: the way this works,
and we've done this for a number

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of years, whenever so Matt Gaetz
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here, obviously. I mean, he shut
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off C span. You didn't see that
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been tracking the section 702
FISA Bri renewal which is just

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barely talked about now. It
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will be there will be and what
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in America is we have to ratchet
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right start. He said You know,
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Good China because China China,
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to do is you need to have oh,
have the alien guy go on Tucker

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Carlson because oh, we need more
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It's all in there growing

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Unknown: tensions between the US
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hundreds of miles above the
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John C Dvorak: We know when
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able to counter the threat

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Unknown: to get an inside look
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technology to counter the
Chinese threat. We went to

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United Launch alliances factory
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against things like Chinese
satellites that can use robotic

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arms to drag other satellites.
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critical American communication
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able to grapple grab a hold of
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satellites. What

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is the concern about them having
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space,

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anything that can interact with
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inherently capable of
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harm it, or to gather
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And fears tonight that China is
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this new space race. But the
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only using satellites, but spies
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multiple US military officials
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multiple officials China
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capable of orbiting the globe
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dropping to Earth before most
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had that we continue to look at
that very closely. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: let's go back we
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stuff logically. Yes. So it's
gonna go into orbit and and

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orbit over and

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Adam Curry: over and over. Yeah,
it's nuclear. Of course. It just

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goes forever. We have a big
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John C Dvorak: it. So it goes
around and around and then it

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drops down. We can't see it. We
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Adam Curry: No, not without $886
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Unknown: concerning. China
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capable of orbiting the globe
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dropping to Earth before most
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We continue to look at that very
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they just recently demonstrated
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recently examples of fence
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speed of light laser, no lasers.

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Adam Curry: Now, I'm going to
play play one wow.

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John C Dvorak: Got it cost a big
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Adam Curry: I want to play one
more here. Because we have to

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remember, we all got to be your
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Unknown: I'm staying on the
topic of China. A scary new

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report from The Washington Post
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Adam Curry: scary. Ha ha scary
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Unknown: China's military is
likely behind a number of

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hackers who have gained computer
access to the systems of about

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two dozen key American
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the nation. Some of the
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a water utility in Hawaii on the
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pipeline report notes that
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access to the Texas power grid
Now thankfully, power grid X is

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raising an alarm pack to China
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key services in America from
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the safety of your watering
broken a dying is now is former

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director of the cybersecurity
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traps. Chris Krebs. Welcome
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read the story.

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Adam Curry: Pretty scary. This
guy is what kind of push you are

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you. So pretty scary. It

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Unknown: seemed pretty scary.
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Brian you're not alone, is I
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officials. They're extremely
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Chinese cyber actors were able
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targets, but more broadly, and
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infrastructures across the
country. And they've come to the

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simple conclusion that this is
not just about disruption and

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destruction for military
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broader societal panic and chaos
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John C Dvorak: isn't that what
these guys are doing now? This

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Adam Curry: is what sold it for
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John C Dvorak: This panic and
can't cry now. This news worked

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for the Chinese. No,

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Adam Curry: no. This is where we
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Chinese because Hollywood's not
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had to say Korea was unclear if
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South Korea and Iran right on
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Unknown: something wrong with a
TV that's all messed up. It

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I'm sure this will turn out to
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back on this one day and laugh I
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think that ship is heading
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what would it what does that
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You can pick up on what's going
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I don't think this is nothing.
We're in this together and

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things get back.

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Adam Curry: the finish we're
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that's my take on the entire
reason for connecting the Obamas

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name to leaving the world behind
and otherwise, okay, movie

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mediocre at best. What made it
creepy was the whole the Obamas

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produced it. And the whole point
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about chaos and fear. That is
that's part of the strategy at

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the end of the movie. Spoiler
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the to get people focused on Oh,
yes, we need oh, we need more

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military. It's okay. We need
that $900 billion dollars to go

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to Raytheon and Boeing. And what
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John C Dvorak: Lockheed,

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Adam Curry: Lockheed. That's
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Obama, this movie was already
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cut. They were added on to the
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anything. And all they you know,
okay, so a little bit of racism

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stuff. And then whatever they
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John C Dvorak: to racism, and
they didn't add shit,

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Adam Curry: John? No, I have the
whole rundown here. They were

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brought in after the movie was
cast after it was written. It

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was good to go. They're only
attached because they have a $65

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million deal. And they have to
put gotta put their name on

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something and this legitimizes
the whole fear and chaos. Did

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you see the movie by any chance?
Did you see the whole thing?

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John C Dvorak: I did you read
the newsletter? Well, I, you

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Adam Curry: from the newsletter
didn't seem to me like you would

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read the whole thing, because
you put enps in there, which

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were explicitly not a part of
this movie. So did you watch it?

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John C Dvorak: I watched
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It's very hard to watch. I

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Adam Curry: watched the whole
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John C Dvorak: It's slow move.
Why you must have been bored

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stiff? No,

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Adam Curry: I reserved for the
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John C Dvorak: It's slow moving.
It's slow moving. The only thing

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I thought was funny was the
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Adam Curry: could it be any more
coincidental, we get the Tesla

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Unknown: with the bad news. This
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year investigation by the
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provide inadequate driver
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using autopilot mode incorrectly
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is on can lead to a higher risk
of accident now now. Okay, we

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Adam Curry: don't have to hear
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coincidence of this happening
right now. That was that was

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John C Dvorak: I well would. But
it was a plot hole because I

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just wanted any one of many.
Because I immediately asked the

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question is where are these
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they all on the same road? And
they're smashing into each

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other? I mean, who set them on
this path? There was never this

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a question. It was never
answered, or ash actually cyber

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Adam Curry: hack. It was cyber
and if you watch the movie, what

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you saw was a close up that
showed the tags on all these

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cars, they had been driven right
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John C Dvorak: She looks at the
tag and that's when she realizes

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that Tesla's are coming Yes. The
Tesla saw that she she yells at

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her husband to get out of the
way because it's going to ram it

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into their SUV that sitting
there and so then they dodge a

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bunch of Tesla's coming down the
road but that doesn't tell me

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that it was anyone who's give me
the Tesla factories are not in

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where they are which is in the
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there's no dealership with 1000s
of Tesla's and I know they're

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Adam Curry: can both agree that
it's full of holes airplanes

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don't come crashing out of the
sky because because of because

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of an airplanes are crashing out
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dropping leaflets has no
problem. You know so what was

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it? You what you hacked the
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single one. I mean, all of it
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for days. Here they have power.
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this whole the whole thing was
full of technical holes. I will

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say the end. So the little girl
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neighbor's, like a bunker in the
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a ham radio kit. And it's
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a frequency that is our TTY. It
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that. Someone who was a ham
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that was one like, Okay, that
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the book that might have been
everything else was just Yeah,

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maybe. Okay. And there's a
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there which gets highlighted.
But the main thing is they

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didn't call out China because
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and Hollywood can't call out
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John C Dvorak: You can if you
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whatsoever,

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Adam Curry: yes, if you don't
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thought the timing of the
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stories, literally with the plot
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oh, this is the big strategy of
our adversaries is first you cut

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off communications then you
confuse us then you've got chaos

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and fear and then we all turn on
each other except at the end of

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course, the white Karen mom
holds hands with the with the

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black teenage girl. And then
it's all great. We're all going

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to survive I guess we'll make it
together. And please pass that

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bill. That was the whole point
of it in my mind. Jack people up

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John C Dvorak: everything's did
Jack people up.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, but this was
special.

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John C Dvorak: This was
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Adam Curry: had no problem
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John C Dvorak: sorry. I don't
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Here you will have you look at
things like this and go I don't

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have time for this.

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Adam Curry: I woke up this
morning at 330 and realized oh

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crap, I'm 59 Where did it go?
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John C Dvorak: you going to be
69? No.

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Adam Curry: Where did it go? I'm
like What am I doing? What am I

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doing my life? I'm watching
these movies.

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John C Dvorak: Watching it
through. I can see he's got I

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can't get to sleep. Maybe this
will help.

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Adam Curry: People like Thanks,
man. You spoil the movie for me.

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No, please watch.

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John C Dvorak: No, there's no
way you can there's no set this

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point there is no such thing as
a spoiler in this movie. No,

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there's not. Because there's no
plot twist. There's nothing

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you're looking at at all though.
He's an actually an alien. There

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was none of that. There was no
plot twist whatsoever. You can't

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spoil this

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Adam Curry: movie. Oh, you just
go. Now you spoil it that

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there's no there's no plot this
plot is actually

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John C Dvorak: that is the
spoiler. The spoiler is there's

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no spoiler. Yeah. It's like
Fight Club.

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Adam Curry: But it was the I
mean, the whole you know, cyber

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attack radiation in cities. The
one thing I learned from this is

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don't live in a city. That's
what I learned from the movie.

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bad place to be. You

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John C Dvorak: learn that before
the movie. What do you think I'm

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here in Fredericksburg.

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Unknown: Now it's time both
free? Yes. Experiment by JC

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comparing stories from ABC, CBS.

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Adam Curry: That's right,
everybody in the headlines.

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Johnson diboride has pulled him
for us. And where

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John C Dvorak: do I do?
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Adam Curry: I know you do. I
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John C Dvorak: a couple of
choices this week or this show.

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And I picked this group this is
a because it's got Richard

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angle. Beautiful, beautiful. So
this is about this is the same

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exact story if you listened to
the the two we're gonna play

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first, which is NBC and ABC in
either order to start with ABC

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but these are the stories of of
what's going on in Gaza.

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Regarding the tunnels, they're
gonna flood them and it's got

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this exact same script quote
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pathetic, to be honest about it.
Then we go to CBS at the end,

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where they actually introduced
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was cool, but let's start with
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Unknown: Israel flooding the
vast labyrinth of tunnels under

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Gaza where Hamas leaders are
believed to be hiding according

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to US officials. This image
circulating online shows what

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appear to be recently laid pipes
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shore. The IDF isn't commenting,
but Israel's fighting to cripple

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Hamas is underground tunnel
network of concerns tonight

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about the safety of the 135
remaining hostages, including

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Americans who may remain in
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that there's quite sure there

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are no hostages in any of these
tunnels. But I don't know that

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and President Biden today
without warning to Israel saying

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they're starting to lose the
world support because of their

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quote, indiscriminate bombing of
Gaza, speaking off camera to

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fundraiser, Biden with some of
his harshest criticism yet for

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Prime Minister Netanyahu Calling
is government, the most

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conservative in Israel's
history. Biden also suggesting

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the most right wing Israeli
leaders want, quote retribution,

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not only against Hamas, but
against all Palestinians saying

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they don't want a two state
solution. Biden's comments

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exposing a growing divide
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we're all Benjamin Netanyahu
saying today he and the

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President disagree about who
will govern Gaza after the war.

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But Israel's first offensive
rages on in Gaza. More than

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18,000 Palestinians have been
killed according to the Hamas

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run health ministry

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Adam Curry: now there's our
there's our health ministry

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again Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: and verify but
they won't say that. Everything

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else he says unverified but
there's no verification and by

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the way, the most conservative
ever that's that included when

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they had that guy with the
eyepatch.

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Adam Curry: Moshe Moshe Moshe
Dayan.

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John C Dvorak: And yeah, that

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Adam Curry: that now that was a
guy. Yeah, it

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John C Dvorak: was conservative.

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Adam Curry: That was a look.

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John C Dvorak: That was a look.

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Adam Curry: I was a Look man,
that iPad to do that. I was a

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governor.

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John C Dvorak: He was a tough
son of a bitch. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: he was he was okay.
So

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John C Dvorak: we're gonna go to
Richard Engel, who's going to

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basically give almost an
identical report is kind of

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scrambled a little bit I think
there's also some sound effects.

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And as dough Engel is anywhere
but in some hotel

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Adam Curry: ops as we know not
to pops, pop tops Yes.

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John C Dvorak: And so we're
gonna get a little bit of that

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and angles always more
breathless. He's He's very good

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at this. Here we go.

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Unknown: He's realist, pushing
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ground offensive in Gaza,
fighting door to door to

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overthrow Hamas. By send tonight
a US official tells NBC News

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Israel is pumping seawater to
flood Hamas tunnels in limited

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areas of Gaza, saying it's
unclear if it will work. There

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assertions being made that
there's quite sure there are no

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hostages in any of these
tunnels. But I don't know. But I

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don't know that for a fact.

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Israel's military campaign is
now sparking tensions with the

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White House. President Biden
speaking earlier at a fundraiser

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today saying Israel is right to
take on Hamas, and has most of

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the world supporting them. But
they're starting to lose support

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by indiscriminate bombing in
Gaza. And that Israeli Prime

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Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is
government has to change. You

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can't say there's no Palestinian
state in the future. The

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administration wants the more
moderate Palestinian authority

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to take over postwar Gaza. But
does it Yeah, who is rejecting

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that? Saying overnight, I will
not allow the entry into Gaza of

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those who educate for terrorism
and support terrorism and

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finance terrorism stung today,
six a group said the

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humanitarian situation in Gaza
is in an apocalyptic freefall,

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writing the war has killed more
than 7500 children more than all

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global conflicts last year
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Adam Curry: Oh, you forgot to
say according to the Hamas run

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health ministry,

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John C Dvorak: no. Yeah, he said
it as though it was fact. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: than all children
combined. Does that include

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Africa somehow? I don't think
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John C Dvorak: I don't know.
It's a good it's a good bit.

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John C Dvorak: It's a good bit

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Adam Curry: it's a bit Sure.

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John C Dvorak: So now we have it
is and so in that vein by the

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way I do have some AMY GOODMAN
clips on the same thing and she

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takes a different perspective
believe me. But so now we go to

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CBS and so CBS really has some
new information is same report

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exact same report except there's
new information. They add some

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dimension to it. They pass off
the the flooding the tunnel is

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is kind of okay. They don't
bring in that Joe Biden exact

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same Joe Biden clip is I would
say CBS, if we're going to

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analyze the three networks has
is doing the best of the three

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doing the best job of the three.

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consolidating control in the

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north, demolishing a UN school
allegedly used by Hamas in Beit

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Hanoun Israeli soldiers cheered
Israel's defense minister says

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fighting may still last for
months

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Adam Curry: but you want what
were the Israeli soldiers

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cheering about? Like yeah, we
got to school was that what was

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that the point of that? is
pretty sick.

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John C Dvorak: I have another
clip coming up later in the show

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where somebody said a dog
barking or something in the

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background makes no sense
whatsoever phone ring i Okay.

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Unknown: Israeli soldiers cheer.
Defense Minister says fighting

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may still last for months. But
us pressure is rising for Israel

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to end its offensive sooner. I'm
looking at new pressure is also

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rising against Israel's Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with

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anger growing over an alleged
decade long agreement in which

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Qatar sent up to $30 million in
cash to from us every month, a

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strategy known as buying quiet
then

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knew that the money was going
directly into purchasing of

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rockets and building of tunnels.
Why didn't they stop the money?

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Obviously, this concept blew up
in everybody's face on October

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7. And tonight

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in Jerusalem protesters braved
the rain to march on the Knesset

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demanding Netanyahu bring all
hostages still in Gaza home and

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calling for his resignation.

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He knew what Hamas is doing with
this money. So he created some

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monster. Some days a monster
came out. And

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Israel's military has reportedly
started to pump seawater into

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Hamas tunnel complexes in order
to destroy them. One concern

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though, is that there may be
hostages in some of them. But

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President Biden's tonight says
quote, There are assertions

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being made. There are no
hostages inside.

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Adam Curry: This has been an
interesting narrative. The the

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idea that Bibi Netanyahu
himself, created this monster,

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and then unleashed it and let it
happen because he loves killing

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children. That's basically I
mean, yeah, that's kind of the

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assertion. Now, when it comes to

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John C Dvorak: a couple of weeks
clip, there's a couple of things

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to note. One is the idea of
buying quiet. I like that term

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buying quiet. I like it. I like
it, too. I like and if so, Qatar

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who everyone thinks is kind of
behind Hamas. From this report,

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which which I believe since it
comes from the network that

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might have access to
information, the other was

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don't. Qatar was actually
sending the 30 million a month

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to the Hamas to tell him to just
calm down. So it was buying

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quiet. The idea was they were
they were bribing them. So they

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weren't the bad guys, Qatar.
They were the guys trying to

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hey, here's some more money just
that's in quiet, calm. Congress,

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I

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Adam Curry: got a report reports
called outsource to Qatar and

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the Qatar diaries. I'll just as
if that's, you know, they're all

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like all the Hamas guys are in
one apartment, you know, hanging

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out, eating kavika and drinking
whatever they have sent in, in

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the last 20 years, according to
this report, $4.7 billion to US

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universities, which would kind
of possibly explain the stance

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that some of the presidents had
of these universities? That's a

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lot of money. Yeah, like
hundreds of millions per

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University. Yeah. And some of
them not the ones that were on

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trial, by the way, but some of
them have, you know, campuses in

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Qatar, the Qatar, these don't
seem like, like good guys. You

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know, and they're buying
everything they're buying. They

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bought soccer, and then just
basically buy it with the World

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Cup and then go buy anything we
want.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
free spenders.

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Adam Curry: I think everyone who
was there, including Elon Musk

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during the the World Cup does
should be condemned for it.

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Hanging out with Qataris?

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John C Dvorak: Well, nothing in
hindsight, yeah, no, it's not

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Adam Curry: good. And Biden is
not doing himself any favors.

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Did you see this? I mean, there
was more to that little speech

505
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he did. Now, famously, when he
was a senator many years ago,

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there's and we'd haven't played
this clip. Biden is out there

507
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saying, You don't have to be a
Jew to be a Zionist. I'm a

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Zionist. You've seen that clip.
Probably.

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John C Dvorak: Remember it, he
doubled

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Adam Curry: down on it. Just
during this speech,

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Unknown: I got in trouble get
criticized very badly about the

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southern part of my state and
some of the southern parts of

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the country. When 35 years ago,
I said, you don't have to be due

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to be a Zionist and I'm a
Zionist.

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Adam Curry: This is not at
Harvard, by the way. You don't

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Unknown: have to be a Zionist
folks. Were there no Israel,

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there wouldn't be a June world
that was safe.

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Adam Curry: Now he goes into
some now he goes into a famous

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Biden I think is a lie. But
let's listen to the type

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John C Dvorak: of document is a
lie.

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Unknown: Make no bones about
I've had my difference with some

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Israeli leadership. I've known
baby for now. 51 years. He has a

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picture on his desk of he and I
when he was a young member of 51

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Adam Curry: years he's known him
when Bibi was what at MIT or

525
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where he was. I mean, Bibi
Netanyahu doesn't

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John C Dvorak: make any sense.
He just makes this stuff. I

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think he's making Israeli

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Unknown: service here.

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Adam Curry: I'm sorry, he was in
foreign service here. Oh, As a

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spy at MIT,

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Unknown: and I was a 32 year old
senator, payment

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Adam Curry: 32 year olds, so
he's now 83 Is that how old he

533
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is? So 51 years ago he was a 32
year old senator. He's not 83 No

534
00:30:17,010 --> 00:30:19,620
of course not lie are nine

535
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Unknown: don't agree the damn
thing had to say about the same

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today

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Adam Curry: he's not I mean, I
can just imagine if someone's

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cringing like oh man, can we
keep where's

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John C Dvorak: the 30,000 lies
list for this guy? Can

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Adam Curry: somebody please call
YouTube and get that one deeply

541
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pulled off? Oh, it's a short
already Oh no. Oh no, it's on

542
00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:46,470
tick tock for last

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00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,050
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
like to play some my AMY GOODMAN

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Unknown: morning. AMY GOODMAN
flippin

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Adam Curry: bound All right, Amy
Goodman

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John C Dvorak: All right. So we
were gonna play that this is

547
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kind of those three by three
only this is the AMY GOODMAN

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00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:08,070
version, brother and it's called
the Gaza massacre. Is

549
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:10,380
Adam Curry: this is this equity
This is equity.

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John C Dvorak: This is my
version of equity

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00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:16,950
Adam Curry: equity. Okay, very
good. All right, guys I've Gaza

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massacre.

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00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:22,170
Unknown: In Gaza. Witnesses say
Israeli soldier shot displaced

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people at point blank range
after they raided Chaga Abu

555
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Salah school and the northern
Alfa Luigia area. According to

556
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Al Jazeera newborn babies were
reportedly among the victims

557
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heavy bombardment continues
throughout the Gaza Strip

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including in Rafah and crime
Eunice where homes businesses

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00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,770
and schools were leveled and
Israeli attacks.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes. It
makes it doesn't but since

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sounds credibly blank range Hey,
come here. Yeah. Well,

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Adam Curry: they Hey, they blew
up the school and then they were

563
00:31:55,530 --> 00:31:59,880
dancing. Yeah, we're happy about
that. They were happy about it.

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We heard by them. I want to
point out war sucks. You know,

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and war is horrible. But I was
what was I watching? Oh, man,

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there was who was it? It was
someone was talking about I

567
00:32:15,420 --> 00:32:18,540
should probably should have
clipped this. Oh, I know. It was

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Norman Lear. I was listening to
Norman Lear. Interview from five

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years ago. So he was well in his
90s. Then he was talking about

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when he when that he recently
had gone to Berlin. He said it

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was so weird, because when the
last time I was in Berlin,

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wasn't World War Two. But I was
bombing. I do two bombing runs

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of Berlin. And I knew that there
would be civilians there and I

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was like, screw. The war does
weird things, too. He said,

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Yeah. He said that he says
scrubs because they deserve it.

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So war does weird things to
people. It's it's not. It's not

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a good product. It's not a great
product. It's horrible. Now

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John C Dvorak: I wanted to do
there was something in those

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really reports Biden saying or
just discussing that you know,

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that maybe the international
support is slipping a little bit

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and blah, blah, blah. Yeah,
well, let's listen to this UN

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votes US ally saying yet yes,
the UN

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Unknown: General Assembly
Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to

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call for an immediate
humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza.

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153 un members approved the
resolution 23 Abstain just 10

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including the United States
voted no. Though non binding the

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UN vote is another indication of
the mounting isolation of the US

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as it continues to support
Israel's assault, which has

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killed at least 18,000
Palestinians in a little over

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two months. Australia which
abstained from voting for the

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General Assembly ceasefire
resolution in October is one of

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the latest US allies to split
with Biden Administration's

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position. This is Australia's
Foreign Minister Penny Hwang,

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Australia,

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alongside 152 Other countries
was among the countries which

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voted in favor. In doing so. We
joined Canada, New Zealand,

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Japan, France, and India and
many other countries. And in

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doing so we have said Israel
must respect international

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humanitarian law.

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Adam Curry: I mean, this is the
general assembly it's not the

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Security Council. So it's
irrelevant.

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John C Dvorak: The Security
Council's irrelevant to yes

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Adam Curry: of course it is. I
have an angle report which I'm

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surprised you you missed that
one because I thought this was a

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real this tugged at your
heartstrings this was perfect.

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In

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Unknown: Gaza now, conditions
are beyond miserable, heavy

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00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,610
rains and shattered
infrastructure today led to

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00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:57,090
floods 50 miles away in the
Palestinian city of Bethlehem.

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The mood is sour in the town
where Christians believe Jesus

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00:35:00,810 --> 00:35:04,890
was born, there are no tourists
or pilgrims, no tree and manger

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00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:08,160
square Christmas celebrations
have been canceled canceled

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solidarity with Gaza inside the
Church of the Nativity. We met

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Reverend Dmitry Rahim when

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you bring your gifts, think of
the people in Gaza who are

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starving today, starving not
only for food but starving for

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justice.

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In the grotto under the altar,
where the faithful believed the

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manger ones lay, we were the
only ones to witness the rituals

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that have continued here for
centuries. where it began, no

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one is in the mood to celebrate
Christmas. Oh

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Adam Curry: wow, that guy needs
to work on his away in the

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manger. He was way off key.

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John C Dvorak: So that this one
Christmas. That's

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Adam Curry: right, Warren
Christmas, Christmas is

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canceled. And I think we'll see
that here. We will see people

627
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canceling their Christmas out of
solidarity. I think that will be

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a thing that's that would be
there's gonna

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John C Dvorak: be solidary tea
with the Ukrainian people in

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Miramar? Possibly Sudan is in
solidarity with them. We have

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00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:14,640
anything Does anyone care about
these other people

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Adam Curry: because they're not
starving. As

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Unknown: Israel continues to
attack Hamas food is

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00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:23,940
increasingly scarce in Gaza. A
desperate crowd today rushed to

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take whatever food aid they
could and refer. The UN says

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half of the population is
starving and diseases are

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00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:36,930
spreading in southern Gaza. 15
year old roja Bucher today tried

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to count the number of times
she's been displaced. We are

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tired, so tired. We are begging
for one bite, she says 90% of

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Gazans have been driven from
their homes, according to the

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UN. Many are now living in the
open desert. That wall is the

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00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,390
Egyptian border. The end of the
line. Nowhere is left that safe

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for Gazans for the hostages.

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Adam Curry: So Egypt won't let
him give a Hey angle,

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John C Dvorak: give them some
food if you're there. Ain't

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gonna give him some food.

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Adam Curry: No, no, no. It's a
heart wrenching report. He's

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really He's talking about the
strings. Now I want to come back

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to

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John C Dvorak: there or is he is
that was he in some some hotel

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00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:23,790
sweet?

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,330
Adam Curry: Green Screen, of
course, is what these guys do.

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John C Dvorak: Far as I know,
they're not letting any American

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journalist in the area. So how
was he there?

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Adam Curry: He was you. It's I
don't know. He's hanging out

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00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:40,500
with what's his face was the
Brit who's there now? Yeah, the

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intellectual guy. We had a clip
of him, what's his name? The guy

658
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:50,250
who's a smarty pants. He was
reporting there anyway. It's

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horrible. The whole thing's a
mess. source it is. It's a mess,

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00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:57,810
then it's creating a mess
everywhere. Then at the

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00:37:57,810 --> 00:38:02,400
universities, ah, mess times
mess. Harvard, Harvard

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00:38:02,430 --> 00:38:05,370
Unknown: is arguably the world's
best known and most prestigious

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university. This institution
which shapes the American elite,

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has become a flashpoint in the
US reaction to the Israel Hamas

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00:38:13,470 --> 00:38:22,800
conflict deprives Palestinians
dignity of burying. This is a

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member of the Palestine support
committee, the first student

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00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:29,100
groups to issue a statement
after October 7, it was

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contentious notably because it
accused Israel of being entirely

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responsible for the Hamas
attack. Without a word for the

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Israeli victims.

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It was just intended to
contextualize the situation

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within 75 years of occupation
within decades of seeds within

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apartheid within settler
colonialism within ethnic

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cleansing. And I think it was
supposed to warn of the coming

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violence that we would surely
see in weeks to follow.

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So why not condemn Hamas?

677
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Harvard refuses to call a
genocide a genocide?

678
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We put that question to the
students who refuse to answer

679
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like, you know,

680
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I'm sorry, I can't answer that
question. There has absolutely

681
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been a double standard in how
mainstream media approaches this

682
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need to recognize the Zionist
regime for what it is. And that

683
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is a settler colonial regime
that seeks to wipe the historic

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land of Palestine clean of any
Palestinians in order to create

685
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their own land that excludes and
eliminates other people. Okay,

686
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Adam Curry: so this this kind of
triggered me because in

687
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following on the clips that you
had on last show, were why

688
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somebody really yelled at me
about that. You know, where what

689
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well about the the kid who was
there, you know, well, once we,

690
00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:43,200
John C Dvorak: once we get rid
of Israel.

691
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Adam Curry: Yeah, somebody
asked, because like usually just

692
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laughing at dead people. No, no.

693
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John C Dvorak: Laughing a

694
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Adam Curry: dead people. People
don't listen very well. It

695
00:39:53,190 --> 00:40:00,600
doesn't matter. This is not a
typical universe. Many students

696
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have been brainwashed, there's
an entire. And when I say it's

697
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not about Israel, Hamas is about
colonialism. The West is bad,

698
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:13,590
white is bad men are bad,
straight white old men very,

699
00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:17,190
very bad, very bad, especially
in the West. And this and this

700
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is an ongoing program. And it's
it's very understandable when

701
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you look at the history, history
listening and coming. When you

702
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look at the history, you know,
what was the last thing they

703
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:33,720
were protesting for? I mean,
besides the ongoing LGBTQ plus

704
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which usurped lives matter,
black lives matter. And there

705
00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:44,100
has been a long standing, long
standing operation going on

706
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between black Americans and the
Palestinian region. I'm saying

707
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that purposely Palestine. This
has been going on since almost

708
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before I was born. In

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Unknown: 1964, Malcolm X
published an article in the

710
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Egyptian Gazette called Zionist
logic, in which he drew

711
00:41:02,850 --> 00:41:06,120
parallels between the oppression
of Palestinians and Africans.

712
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Instead of seeing it as a
religious conflict, Malcolm saw

713
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Israel as a colonial project
serving a wider imperialist

714
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agenda. Seeing European
imperialists wisely placed

715
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Israel where she could
geographically divided the Arab

716
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world. In the same year, Malcolm
was one of the first African

717
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leaders to publicly meet with
the Palestine Liberation

718
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Organization as anti colonial
struggles gain traction through

719
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the world. Freedom for
Palestinians became a touchstone

720
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for the international fight
against imperialism. As black

721
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freedom movements expanded their
worldview to situate their

722
00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:40,050
struggle as part of a global
anti colonial movement.

723
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Palestine also became an
important focal point of their

724
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solidarity. On August 15 1967,
the Student Nonviolent

725
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Coordinating Committee released
a position paper entitled The

726
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,850
Middle East crisis, expressing
support for Palestine and

727
00:41:53,850 --> 00:41:57,510
criticizing us support for
Israel. Organizations such as

728
00:41:57,510 --> 00:42:00,270
the Black Panthers argued that
freedom would never come for

729
00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:03,420
black people in America unless
all oppressed people were free.

730
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,810
The Panthers frequently spoke of
black communities and their

731
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relationship with police as
living under occupation as

732
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internally colonized people.
They were vocal in their support

733
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for Palestine, and met with the
PLO in Algiers in 1969. So

734
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Adam Curry: that's black
panthers and Malcolm.

735
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John C Dvorak: Second, whoever
got you that clip, I'm gonna

736
00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:23,640
give you a clip of the day.
That's a beauty.

737
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Adam Curry: Oh, thank you, I got
that myself from TRT.

738
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John C Dvorak: Give yourself a
pat on the back. Well, so

739
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,190
Adam Curry: I've another one.
I've a second but follow up. But

740
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go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Israel's

741
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John C Dvorak: not in A is not
put in. It's not in the spot

742
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:44,730
that's dividing the Arab
nations. It's in between the

743
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:49,320
Egyptians and Arabs, there's no
other it's not like in the

744
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,000
middle between Saudi Arabia and
the UAE or anything like that.

745
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,020
That's nonsense. But yeah, I
understand. I remembered some of

746
00:42:58,020 --> 00:43:02,280
this from my days at Cal
Berkeley, these the same thing,

747
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,590
Adam Curry: it's the same thing.
And black Americans from early

748
00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:12,870
on, were infiltrated by Marxist,
the true Marxist came in and

749
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:16,710
right away when Hey, the Marxist
were in the south in America,

750
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,160
trying to get people to get on
board. And the only people who

751
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,700
showed up were black people.
Like, hey, these guys care about

752
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:28,050
us. They're listening to us. And
there's long standing friction

753
00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:31,950
between blacks and Jews in
America. So this wedge has been

754
00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:35,460
played for a long time. And it
always comes down to America

755
00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:40,260
Bad, bad, bad colonialism. I'm
not saying that. It's there's

756
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:44,250
not no colonialism going on
here. But this is not a new

757
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:47,190
thing. In fact, let's go back a
little less far.

758
00:43:47,220 --> 00:43:49,350
Unknown: Muhammad Ali also
declared his support for the

759
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:52,740
Palestinian struggle, marching
for Palestinian rights and

760
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:56,220
visiting a Palestinian refugee
camp in southern Lebanon. In

761
00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,570
1979, Reverend Jesse Jackson met
with the PLO and pushed for the

762
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:03,630
US to deal directly with the
organization in pursuit of a

763
00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:04,230
peace deal

764
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:10,680
just and lasting peace is
inextricably bound for a state

765
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,780
of the Palestinian people, and
the recognition of the PLO as

766
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:19,230
the government in exile with
which our nation must negotiate.

767
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,800
This was a significant shift in
support for Palestine moving

768
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,620
from radical groups to more
mainstream figures who were able

769
00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:29,250
to lobby for shifts in US
policy. 10 years later, Jackson

770
00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:31,800
would find himself in an
audience in Harlem as Nelson

771
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,050
Mandela addressed a packed town
home

772
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:39,270
as far as Yasser Arafat is
concerned. I explained to Mr.

773
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:48,360
City that we identify with a
piano it causes just like

774
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:54,150
ourselves. They are fighting for
the right of self determination.

775
00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:03,000
Adam Curry: So Actually IBM now
I think about I want to make

776
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,120
sure there was there might have
been a producer who sent me this

777
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:09,090
I may be wrong it may or may not
have been my discovery alone. I

778
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:12,210
don't want to I don't want don't
want to take no Stolen Valor.

779
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Stolen

780
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,380
John C Dvorak: Valor Oh my god.
So I should mention a couple of

781
00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:20,580
things one when I went and
visited Israel some time ago but

782
00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:23,190
before I did I was given a
briefing on some of the stuff

783
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:26,670
going on and I was told that it
was never going to be any such

784
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:29,160
two state solution once they're
there they're never going to

785
00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:35,520
schism had to exist because of
basic corruption and he this guy

786
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,550
Israeli course so as the
information could be slanted but

787
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:41,880
he pointed me to a Time magazine
article that one of them though

788
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,690
he says by this writer who's has
gotten jobs jobs since

789
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:48,810
discussing the kind of
corruption that goes on in the

790
00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:53,520
in the way it would be, become
Gaza, which would which included

791
00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:57,900
Coca Cola concessions, yeah,
yes, that only went to a certain

792
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,720
group of people that were and it
was all everything was bought

793
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:05,130
and paid for by bribery. And it
was so much money being made off

794
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,510
of through the via the PLO, and
that's the reason that we always

795
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:13,680
forget the fact that when after
he died, it was discovered that

796
00:46:13,710 --> 00:46:19,230
Yasser Arafat had billions of
dollars stored away in a in a

797
00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:23,760
Swiss bank, which had you get
built not to a couple of bucks,

798
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,120
but a billions. Yeah. And it was
full

799
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,770
Adam Curry: of crap. Everyone's
full of crap.

800
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,450
John C Dvorak: Everyone's fully
crap. And

801
00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:35,160
Adam Curry: people they don't
care about their people, just

802
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,390
like our so called leaders don't
actually care about us. The

803
00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:45,660
faster people realize that the
better. You know, this, this

804
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:48,570
just no care in the world and
you don't have to choose a side.

805
00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:52,350
You can be choosing sides all
day long as we keep pointing out

806
00:46:52,350 --> 00:46:56,490
this sides everywhere. How about
looking at your own city or your

807
00:46:56,490 --> 00:47:02,310
own neighborhood? How's it going
there have potholes? I do have

808
00:47:02,310 --> 00:47:07,290
some black lives matter. Trans
Maoist, racist stuff. Two fun

809
00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:07,890
clips.

810
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:10,440
John C Dvorak: That's always
always fun, always fun.

811
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:15,000
Adam Curry: And the first one is
James O'Keefe. The man he

812
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,240
doesn't need his donors. He's
doing just fine. He got a zoom

813
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:25,770
call from the CEO of IBM. Who is

814
00:47:27,210 --> 00:47:30,330
John C Dvorak: he the Indian, I
think is Indian. I thought the

815
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:31,830
CEO was Gina Rometty.

816
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:33,750
Adam Curry: This is from 2021.

817
00:47:34,770 --> 00:47:38,370
John C Dvorak: I thought the CEO
then was was her. Ah,

818
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:44,310
Adam Curry: who was this guy
then CEO, IBM. Let me see.

819
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,390
Ma'am. Now Arvid Krishna.

820
00:47:49,380 --> 00:47:53,310
John C Dvorak: Arvind Krishna.
Yeah. Is he the CEO? Yeah.

821
00:47:54,030 --> 00:47:57,690
Adam Curry: I guess I would
maybe choose chairman and CEO

822
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:02,370
since April 2020. took on the
role of chairman in 2021.

823
00:48:04,530 --> 00:48:06,900
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
behind to what I know. No

824
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:07,560
kidding. What

825
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,130
Adam Curry: do we know?

826
00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:11,340
John C Dvorak: It was during
COVID. You know, anything that

827
00:48:11,340 --> 00:48:12,570
happened during COVID.

828
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:17,760
Adam Curry: Also, on this zoom
call, was the CEO of Red Hat,

829
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:23,430
which has since been acquired,
which was an acquisition by

830
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:24,120
John C Dvorak: the algo.

831
00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:28,770
Adam Curry: Looks like a white
dude. Then there's this. She

832
00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:32,340
doesn't talk much. There's some
like a PR lady who's just

833
00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:36,480
smiling like a doofus on camera
the whole time. He has a whole

834
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,580
report. I'm gonna play one
minute of it, you'll get the

835
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:39,600
idea pretty quick.

836
00:48:39,630 --> 00:48:42,180
Unknown: We take
underrepresented and gender you

837
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:45,540
got to move both forward by a
percentage that leads to a plus

838
00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:49,080
on a bonus. By the way, if you
lose, you lose part of your

839
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,530
bonus. I'm not trying to finesse
this. So for blacks, we should

840
00:48:52,530 --> 00:48:55,620
try to get to a 13 point
something percent on Hispanics.

841
00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:58,800
You gotta get into the mid
teens. Alleppey say, Asians in

842
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,020
the US. I'm not an
underrepresented minority in a

843
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:02,520
tech company. James

844
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,400
O'Keefe here outside of IBM's
corporate headquarters in

845
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,150
Armonk, New York. And IBM
insider has provided us with an

846
00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:13,470
internal video showing the CEO
of IBM Arban Krishna using

847
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:17,580
coercion to fire people and take
away their bonuses unless they

848
00:49:17,580 --> 00:49:20,130
discriminate in the hiring
process. Let me go

849
00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:23,550
deeper into Red Hat multiple
leaders over the last year plus

850
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:26,310
that were held accountable to
the point that they're no longer

851
00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:28,980
here at Red Hat because they
weren't willing to live up to

852
00:49:28,980 --> 00:49:31,860
the standards that we set in
this space. This conversation

853
00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:35,670
takes place every single day.
And a lot of it's behind the

854
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:36,030
scenes,

855
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:39,480
the terminated executives that
didn't discriminate yet another

856
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480
violation of Title Seven, one of
the biggest companies in the

857
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,660
world, one of the most valuable
and recognizable brands on

858
00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:46,350
Earth.

859
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,430
Adam Curry: So they had quotas,
you know, oh, you need to hire

860
00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:55,560
2% more black people. 2% more
trans people that quotas and if

861
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,710
you didn't, if you didn't do it,
then you'd either your bonus

862
00:49:58,710 --> 00:50:03,270
will get docked or you Couldn't
get fired outright. How about

863
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:09,750
that? Wow. Yeah. Wow was right,
IBM. I mean, I wish I wish there

864
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:13,080
was a product that could ban but
I don't use any I mean, who uses

865
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,650
IBM products? I'm sure we all
use it indirectly.

866
00:50:17,340 --> 00:50:19,710
John C Dvorak: Because there's,
there's they have things here in

867
00:50:19,710 --> 00:50:20,040
there.

868
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,580
Adam Curry: When's the last time
you bought an IBM PC? ThinkPad?

869
00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:25,470
Do they still exist that did
they are they still they

870
00:50:25,470 --> 00:50:27,720
John C Dvorak: sold the whole
business on Lenovo. Lenovo.

871
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,770
Right, right. So they don't even
make those anymore. And I don't

872
00:50:31,770 --> 00:50:34,260
know what they you know, they
think they still make some sort

873
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:34,980
of chips.

874
00:50:35,070 --> 00:50:38,610
Adam Curry: But this goes on
everywhere in boardrooms and

875
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,990
executive suites across the
United States. I know candle

876
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:44,220
have many examples

877
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,620
John C Dvorak: of the
meritocracy that this country

878
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:47,850
was founded on No

879
00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:52,410
Adam Curry: man, it's about your
gender and your skin color began

880
00:50:52,410 --> 00:50:55,890
and that is a direct result of
Larry Fink's invention, which is

881
00:50:55,890 --> 00:51:00,150
backpedaling on ESG, which are a
big part of your ESG your

882
00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:04,110
environmental social governance
score is your diversity and

883
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:08,670
equity inside your corporation
along with your green washing.

884
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,170
Oh, it's horrible. And it makes
these companies suck. And there

885
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:17,790
you go. IBM. I think you suck.
Where's your AI? Where's your

886
00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:23,160
Watson? No. But that's okay.
Because racism is

887
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,090
John C Dvorak: they end up

888
00:51:24,090 --> 00:51:26,460
Adam Curry: failing in the
market. Oh, yeah. Eventually

889
00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:29,850
eventually. Yeah. And okie for
not doing well help them.

890
00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:36,390
John C Dvorak: Right. Keith is
helping them helping them. Yes,

891
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:37,200
helping them fail,

892
00:51:37,290 --> 00:51:39,210
Adam Curry: but they will fail
in the market because if you

893
00:51:39,390 --> 00:51:42,120
bring in mediocre people
eventually just get mediocre

894
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,390
product and and it's very hard
to swing that boat around once

895
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:50,220
you've once it's ingrained in
the organization. Boss Boston

896
00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:54,090
though the mayor of Boston oh
man a little email boo boo

897
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:54,840
Boston Mayor

898
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,690
Unknown: Michelle Wu showing up
to her Beacon Hill holiday party

899
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and all smiles after an email
error sparked controversy

900
00:52:01,650 --> 00:52:03,450
surrounding the festive affair.

901
00:52:03,630 --> 00:52:07,590
It was a one of those emails
that we've all sent at one point

902
00:52:07,590 --> 00:52:08,490
or another no

903
00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:11,760
and it was obtained by a member
of the mayor's staff to the

904
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,930
entire city council Tuesday. I
cordially invite you and a guest

905
00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:19,230
to the electeds of color holiday
party. But 15 minutes later

906
00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:22,170
another email went out
rescinding that invite to the

907
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:26,400
white councillors clarifying I
did send that to everyone by

908
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,660
accident. I apologize if my
email may have offended mistake

909
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:33,180
or not. City Councilor Frank
Baker says this is just one

910
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:36,210
example of the racial divisions
inside City Hall.

911
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,570
Well, yeah, I do find it
divisive but you know what do

912
00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:41,250
you what are you going to do
about it? You don't want me at a

913
00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:43,260
party I'm uncomfortable body. So
you know,

914
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,970
the event has been happening for
years and the mayor is defending

915
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:49,110
the party. I can

916
00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:54,630
understand someone would be
confused or worried if certain

917
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:59,340
people weren't being invited. Or
were being left out of any type

918
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:03,360
of celebration, but they're I
assure you, everyone on the

919
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,160
Boston City Council has gotten
an invitation to multiple types

920
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,510
of events and holiday parties

921
00:53:10,350 --> 00:53:13,200
that the mayor says that there
will be another party at the

922
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,550
same location on another date
where all city officials are

923
00:53:17,550 --> 00:53:18,540
invited to attend

924
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,890
Adam Curry: scandalous there was
a Christmas party the for the

925
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,760
elected people of color which as
mo would say is another way of

926
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,300
saying elected color people so
that's all he can hear such

927
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,450
John C Dvorak: it yeah I'm I'm
so I can be honest about that's

928
00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:34,680
what I always hear to bull

929
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,620
Adam Curry: crap term is racist.
It's just racist.

930
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:41,370
John C Dvorak: And then they do
a segregated party. Yes. Yes.

931
00:53:41,370 --> 00:53:46,980
Adam Curry: Segregated party. It
is. I mean, why you should go

932
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,450
throw a party at IBM. You fit
right in with their with their

933
00:53:51,450 --> 00:53:59,640
culture. Okay. Now, this is this
has got to be my favorite topic

934
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:04,500
for for today. You're on a roll.
Yeah, no, there's this. There's

935
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:06,390
John C Dvorak: a show at the
mall or something.

936
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:09,330
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, Moe and
I are due for a show that we're

937
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:13,290
due for a show you know,
something really beautiful

938
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:16,410
happen. So I was listening to my
favorite show the hate listen.

939
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:22,380
Oh, your pivot? Yes. pivot here
we go with Professor Prof. G and

940
00:54:22,410 --> 00:54:23,370
your protege.

941
00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:27,720
John C Dvorak: Stop and tell you
something. I was reluctant to

942
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,900
tell you but I'm going to tell
you all right. So I'm talking to

943
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:34,260
Mia Mia. She's doing the good
news stuff. And just like she's

944
00:54:34,380 --> 00:54:36,060
white, she overdoing it issues.
She's

945
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:38,640
Adam Curry: picking the good
news currently,

946
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:41,010
John C Dvorak: because she's got
she'd give me 20 of them. And I

947
00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:41,640
thought, Oh my God.

948
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,070
Adam Curry: Maybe it's like good
news.

949
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,380
John C Dvorak: So she says that,
you know, Adam is better on the

950
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:58,200
show than ever before. He's not
so testy. He's not so uptight

951
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,930
about everything you say. He's
not like Like, he's not like an

952
00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:07,980
old lesbian that's agreeing with
her when she says this, and she

953
00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:12,420
says she says he's funnier. He's
doesn't get offended by

954
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:16,470
everything like he used to. Wow.
And this she said, It's because

955
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:17,880
he stopped smoking dope.

956
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,650
Adam Curry: I think that's a
part of it. Possibly. Yeah. was

957
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:26,550
part of it. I mean,

958
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,840
John C Dvorak: yes. Well, I
mean, I said that until he does

959
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,620
smoke dope or tobacco products
anymore. Changes. A little bit.

960
00:55:34,650 --> 00:55:38,220
My dnn is religious. Yeah. Yeah,
he's a little bit of accepting.

961
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:39,030
But Jesus,

962
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:40,380
Adam Curry: I have saved me.

963
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,480
John C Dvorak: She's not a fan
of you being saved. But no, he

964
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,880
says, even I said religion will.
Should if it works, keep him

965
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,940
from going back to smoking pot
all the time. I'm not gonna

966
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:58,590
smoke anymore. Because you were
and people don't realize this.

967
00:55:58,710 --> 00:56:06,840
You were basically 24/7 on a
heater. You were a 24/7 smoker

968
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:07,860
waken big baby.

969
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:11,010
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah.

970
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,530
John C Dvorak: And ever. I never
thought it really affected your

971
00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:16,650
personality, but she says is
noticeable. Oh,

972
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,180
Adam Curry: well, that's not
according to one of our

973
00:56:18,180 --> 00:56:20,160
donations that we'll have later
on.

974
00:56:21,780 --> 00:56:22,860
John C Dvorak: You're a hater.

975
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:28,710
Adam Curry: I don't know what I
am. Anyway. I'm not a hater. So

976
00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:32,910
now that what's interesting is
this, uh, the Heritage

977
00:56:32,910 --> 00:56:35,370
Foundation came out with a
document. And this is the

978
00:56:35,370 --> 00:56:39,540
genesis of what's going on here.
If this document is called

979
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:45,990
Project 2025. And, well, maybe
we can talk about that in a

980
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:51,420
moment. But this is basically
the conservative slash

981
00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:55,350
Republican manual for all the
things they want to do. And it's

982
00:56:55,350 --> 00:56:59,280
very Heritage Foundation. It's,
it's 1000 pages is a big

983
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,220
document. And as you can
imagine, it's you know, stuff

984
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:08,070
like, hey, racism against white
people is racism. Hey, let's,

985
00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:12,600
let's let's try and reduce this
abortion epidemic. We've got,

986
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,720
you know, it's all the Heritage
Foundation stuff you'd expect.

987
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:19,740
But this is not the Heritage
Fund. Oh, no, this is Trump.

988
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:24,990
John C Dvorak: This is all about
Trump. So Trump Yeah. Oh, yeah.

989
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:27,630
What's up? We'll get to this
came out of the heritage. Yeah,

990
00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:31,170
but Trump is trumping the
heritage or are not even close.

991
00:57:31,860 --> 00:57:32,490
I know I know.

992
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:35,760
Adam Curry: But, but before we
get to that part, I first want

993
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,480
to go to the hate Listen, which
I adore them. I just want you to

994
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,590
know that if they were value for
value, I'd send them value. I

995
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:44,160
disagree

996
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,730
John C Dvorak: with this with
what you don't do. You don't

997
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,330
endure them. You don't like I
missed the show door.

998
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,860
Adam Curry: I said a door you
said indoor and outdoor. I said

999
00:57:55,860 --> 00:58:00,240
I adore them. You endure them
now. You heard it wrong. I said

1000
00:58:00,270 --> 00:58:04,530
I adore them. I do I adore them.

1001
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,640
John C Dvorak: I hold back the
chain.

1002
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,970
Adam Curry: I love Kara's paw. I
love it when she's when she goes

1003
00:58:08,970 --> 00:58:13,110
on shows as Elon Musk has
dropped the effort. This is a 52

1004
00:58:13,110 --> 00:58:14,310
year old man. What

1005
00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:16,590
John C Dvorak: did you know she
used to love you pointed this

1006
00:58:16,590 --> 00:58:20,550
out. She used to be a big huge
fan of Ilan Yeah, what happened

1007
00:58:20,550 --> 00:58:22,920
between those two? Well,

1008
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:28,620
Adam Curry: you know she is a
she's a pushover. She takes

1009
00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:30,870
she's accessed journalist.

1010
00:58:31,530 --> 00:58:34,950
John C Dvorak: You know if Ilan
said something good about her. I

1011
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:36,990
bet she she turned the corner on
this. Oh, in

1012
00:58:36,990 --> 00:58:41,010
Adam Curry: a heartbeat. She was
all Apple the stupid visor. It's

1013
00:58:41,010 --> 00:58:45,600
no good. This vision pro what is
like Google Glass. They invite

1014
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:51,300
her for a demo. Wow. This is the
future. Please, please. Now

1015
00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:55,080
Elon. Elon shined her on and
said now be whatever, I'm the

1016
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,130
meal. And, you know, I gave Elon
all the breaks. I created Elon

1017
00:58:59,130 --> 00:59:03,090
Musk. It doesn't matter. They
had they had Dan Pfeiffer on Dan

1018
00:59:03,090 --> 00:59:07,260
Pfeiffer where he's from pod
save America. He's from that

1019
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:12,300
whole that whole group. And he's
actually I was in my money. He's

1020
00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:16,650
the smartest of the group and he
was an Obama advisor.

1021
00:59:17,220 --> 00:59:19,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, these guys
are the pod save America as are

1022
00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:24,030
all the oh by the right bottom
left wingers of podcasting. Yes,

1023
00:59:24,060 --> 00:59:26,400
it's not Chapo. traphouse. Knows
close.

1024
00:59:27,930 --> 00:59:33,000
Adam Curry: Pfeiffer is a smart
guy. And he goes on the end. He

1025
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,430
has a podcast, which is kind of
why I was listening because he

1026
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:43,230
has a podcast called the polar
coaster. I know right, get off

1027
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:48,480
the polar coaster because it's
all about polls. Anyway, he goes

1028
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,120
on and he gives a
recommendation, what the

1029
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,780
Democrats should not do what
they explained what they should

1030
00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:58,410
not be doing. With Trump right
now. We have focused

1031
00:59:58,410 --> 01:00:00,780
Unknown: and I think rightfully
on Donald Trump's thing on day

1032
01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:04,140
one. But what keeps getting left
out is what he said right after

1033
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:06,780
that, which he's going to, he
basically said, I am going to

1034
01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:11,940
abuse power to secure the border
and quote drill, drill drill.

1035
01:00:12,180 --> 01:00:15,540
Right? So what he is trying to
do is to say, I am going to be

1036
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:17,790
an authoritarian but I'm going
to be authoritarian for you.

1037
01:00:17,790 --> 01:00:20,430
Here's all I'm going to help
your wife right. These we know

1038
01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:23,880
that these things people care a
lot about cost of energy. And

1039
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:26,970
border is at the top of it's
right below inflation on a lot

1040
01:00:26,970 --> 01:00:30,000
of the polls in terms of
concerns for voters. What

1041
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,540
Democrats should do is not it we
is we should avoid some traps.

1042
01:00:33,540 --> 01:00:35,760
First is we shouldn't run around
talking about how strong Donald

1043
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,310
Trump is because strength is
part of his appeal. We have to

1044
01:00:38,310 --> 01:00:42,810
talk about his knee the fact
that he is weak, right that he

1045
01:00:42,810 --> 01:00:44,670
that Donald Trump has ever stood
up to anyone in his life. He

1046
01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:48,270
bails on the CEOs he bows down
to dictators. He's running for

1047
01:00:48,270 --> 01:00:50,370
president not to help you but
because afraid to face the

1048
01:00:50,370 --> 01:00:53,820
consequences for his actions in
office last time and make it

1049
01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:56,940
about his weakness, right,
Donald Trump what that is a trap

1050
01:00:57,090 --> 01:01:00,990
to make us talk about how strong
and fearful he is. Next, and

1051
01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:04,230
this is really important as we
have to talk about how what

1052
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:07,170
Donald Trump would do how him
being a dictator or seizing

1053
01:01:07,170 --> 01:01:10,470
power abusing her would affect
you. Right, I think one great

1054
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:13,260
way to do this talk about
abortion. Right, the Heritage

1055
01:01:13,260 --> 01:01:16,350
Foundation and others have
talked about how even if Donald

1056
01:01:16,350 --> 01:01:19,710
Trump is unable to pass a
federal abortion ban, they can

1057
01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:22,410
weaponize the federal government
to put in fact a de facto

1058
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:23,490
federal abortion ban.

1059
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,340
Adam Curry: So he's read the
Heritage Foundation document and

1060
01:01:26,340 --> 01:01:31,350
he makes a really smart point
here. He says, Don't be talking

1061
01:01:31,350 --> 01:01:35,280
about him being the dictator.
Don't do that, because that only

1062
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:39,660
solidifies He's a powerful,
powerful man. He specifically

1063
01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:44,490
and I think smartly says no, we
should not be doing this. Super

1064
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:45,390
cut time.

1065
01:01:45,420 --> 01:01:49,050
Unknown: What would a second
Donald Trump term look like?

1066
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:54,090
Well, he cannot be the next
president. It because if he is

1067
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,230
you can't imagine the things
that he's going to do. Mexico,

1068
01:01:58,290 --> 01:02:02,580
Canada, we can go to Canada
because eventually Canada will

1069
01:02:02,580 --> 01:02:05,700
become an ex to America and
shoot visitors to the White

1070
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:08,370
House. That means he can shut
the First Lady.

1071
01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:11,520
We're gonna see violence, the
likes of which we didn't even

1072
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,440
see on January 6.

1073
01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:17,910
Make it illegal to run against
him to throw his opponents in

1074
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:19,740
jail to shut down the media, he
will make

1075
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:23,370
himself into the furor. And he
will make everybody raise their

1076
01:02:23,370 --> 01:02:23,700
hand

1077
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:27,600
and salute him using martial law
against American germinate

1078
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:33,660
the Constitution, we write the
constitution. Camps throw

1079
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:36,870
everyone into Gitmo might be
sent to jail

1080
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:39,930
or their rights might be
suppressed. Especially minority

1081
01:02:39,930 --> 01:02:41,010
groups in society

1082
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,710
you might have any number of
things happen to you and your

1083
01:02:43,710 --> 01:02:45,210
family, every one of

1084
01:02:45,210 --> 01:02:48,360
us our freedom or liberty. None
of us is safe. It's going to

1085
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,390
have people around him executing
against an enemies list,

1086
01:02:51,450 --> 01:02:52,470
assassinate

1087
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,510
generals ordering troops

1088
01:02:55,470 --> 01:02:58,620
to attack American citizens,
very well

1089
01:02:58,620 --> 01:03:01,560
armed extremist base, we will
try to kill people

1090
01:03:01,620 --> 01:03:03,930
John C Dvorak: when he's going
to basically burn the house

1091
01:03:03,930 --> 01:03:06,150
Unknown: down, he will unravel
the institutions of our

1092
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:10,530
democracy, draw similarities
between Mussolini and Hitler,

1093
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:12,870
Hitler and Benito Mussolini,

1094
01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:15,000
Donald Trump even more dangerous
wants

1095
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,790
to take away your vote Senate in
the house are immediately going

1096
01:03:17,790 --> 01:03:20,880
to be paralyzed. People will
begin in their minds to censor

1097
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,300
themselves. They might say,
well, maybe I shouldn't say this

1098
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,710
is the end of democracy.

1099
01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:29,160
I think that could be the end of
our democracy. But democracy is

1100
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:31,050
dead if Trump is reelected.

1101
01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:35,670
Democracy will be at risk. The
absolute destruction of the

1102
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:36,930
Justice Department as

1103
01:03:36,930 --> 01:03:40,050
we know it, the Justice
Department could be entirely

1104
01:03:40,050 --> 01:03:40,860
transformed.

1105
01:03:40,890 --> 01:03:42,480
I really concerned about that

1106
01:03:42,750 --> 01:03:45,900
person who was associated with
the attempted coup elevated in

1107
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:45,990
the

1108
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:49,350
administration. he's reelected
he will curb transgender rights

1109
01:03:49,410 --> 01:03:53,220
and the rule of law, arrest
political opponents to

1110
01:03:53,220 --> 01:03:56,550
persecute, not prosecute or
persecute his enemies

1111
01:03:56,580 --> 01:03:58,860
take a wrecking ball to the rule
of law, he's

1112
01:03:58,860 --> 01:04:01,590
going to make the law everyone
else will have to follow the

1113
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:05,160
vote for Donald Trump may mean
the last election that you ever

1114
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:05,940
get to vote in

1115
01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:10,260
go after the independent and
free parts of American civic

1116
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:10,620
life

1117
01:04:10,650 --> 01:04:13,950
with tear down our institutions.
Birds, the government of

1118
01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:17,730
employees department by
department effort to weaponize

1119
01:04:17,730 --> 01:04:20,850
the powers of the government to
use the military to quash

1120
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,960
protests, reading the government
of all democratic safeguards,

1121
01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:29,190
junking American democracy, as
we have always known it, that he

1122
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:32,400
would try to stay in office
beyond a second term. He would

1123
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,550
never leave office, there's no
question Trump is reelected. He

1124
01:04:35,550 --> 01:04:39,120
won't leave. Trump will never
leave office voluntarily. And

1125
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:39,780
what that means

1126
01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:42,030
is that everybody who wants us
to remain a republic

1127
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:48,000
has to put every other thing
aside and work together urgently

1128
01:04:48,030 --> 01:04:50,220
right now to stop that from
happening. So

1129
01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:55,200
Adam Curry: props to gray Bian
for putting that together. So do

1130
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,440
they heed any advice? No. Well,

1131
01:04:58,470 --> 01:05:00,180
John C Dvorak: the Republicans
are the same way. I was

1132
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:03,480
listening to of all people I
don't like him, which is Sean

1133
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:09,150
Hannity. And he's giving advice
to the party about you know, how

1134
01:05:09,150 --> 01:05:12,840
to ride this abortion thing
correctly. And of course, no

1135
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,060
one's gonna pay any attention to
him they're gonna lose a lot of

1136
01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:19,950
votes because they're gonna get
whiplash rip whip. whipsaw

1137
01:05:19,980 --> 01:05:22,680
whipsawed by the Democrats on
abortion issues if

1138
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:26,010
Adam Curry: if the Democrats can
drag themselves away from the

1139
01:05:26,010 --> 01:05:28,950
Hitler, Mussolini dictator
thing, which I think is exactly

1140
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:31,530
why Trump did that. Well,

1141
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,990
John C Dvorak: not as you
mentioned that I because I think

1142
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:39,270
that analysis by your podcasting
friend was right on the money. I

1143
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:42,570
think so too. And we've noticed
this on this show. He doesn't

1144
01:05:42,570 --> 01:05:46,710
know how to pick people for his
cabinet. He just basically Are

1145
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:51,630
you a backstabber You're hired.
brings in people like the

1146
01:05:51,630 --> 01:05:52,590
walrus,

1147
01:05:54,420 --> 01:05:55,440
Adam Curry: Bolton, Bolton,

1148
01:05:56,550 --> 01:05:58,260
John C Dvorak: what would you
hire that guy?

1149
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,790
Adam Curry: He's a fart sniffer.

1150
01:05:59,820 --> 01:06:03,540
John C Dvorak: We never got a
whole slew of Council on Foreign

1151
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:07,050
Relations, people that are set
up to go against him and the

1152
01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:13,440
drop of a hat. Yeah. And it's
just, you know, but on the other

1153
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,370
hand, you got Biden.

1154
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:16,800
Adam Curry: Well, do you want to
hear it? Yeah,

1155
01:06:16,830 --> 01:06:18,720
John C Dvorak: I agree with
everything that you played

1156
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:18,990
there.

1157
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,370
Adam Curry: So here's a video
from this other project. 2025

1158
01:06:23,370 --> 01:06:27,390
project 2020 five.org. I mean,
this is a video from it, just to

1159
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:28,080
give you an idea of

1160
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:32,430
Unknown: conservatives exist, to
conserve the ideals of the

1161
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:35,700
American founding, these ideas
are actually the

1162
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:41,040
Adam Curry: source of our
recovery. Notice the difference

1163
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,440
in in music ta January

1164
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,170
Unknown: 20. When the President
puts his hand on the Bible,

1165
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,340
everything changes.

1166
01:06:49,170 --> 01:06:52,470
Our goal is to ensure that the
conservative administration that

1167
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:57,540
takes office in January 25 is
ready on day one, the next

1168
01:06:57,540 --> 01:07:01,470
conservative president will only
be able to do so with your help.

1169
01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:07,710
And the President of the
conservative partnership

1170
01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:10,590
Institute, Vice President of
Hillsdale College, the head of

1171
01:07:10,590 --> 01:07:13,290
the Office of Justice Programs,
Assistant Secretary

1172
01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:15,480
for Public Affairs, senior
adviser to the president,

1173
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,920
Assistant press secretary.

1174
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,100
You're here to cut government
and you're here to do something

1175
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:23,640
that's not in

1176
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,000
their interest. The deep state
is real. You want to be someone

1177
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,280
who knows answers. As

1178
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,950
a public servant, you're working
on behalf of the American

1179
01:07:31,950 --> 01:07:34,890
people, the greatest country on
the planet.

1180
01:07:38,580 --> 01:07:41,130
Adam Curry: Johnson sure that
that power is executed

1181
01:07:41,130 --> 01:07:44,490
responsibly. So they have a
whole training project. You

1182
01:07:44,490 --> 01:07:47,760
know, they've got materials,
they've got their whole policy

1183
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,450
directive. I mean, it's not a
Trump thing. They have the

1184
01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:54,750
mandate for leadership. You
know, our goal is to assemble an

1185
01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:57,780
army of aligned, vetted, trained
and prepared conservatives to go

1186
01:07:57,780 --> 01:08:00,930
to work on day one, to
deconstruct the administrative

1187
01:08:00,930 --> 01:08:04,230
state. I don't think there's
American that doesn't agree with

1188
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:07,110
that. That there's an
administrative state has gone

1189
01:08:07,110 --> 01:08:11,220
too far. So fine, you know, but
it's not a Trump thing. It's

1190
01:08:11,220 --> 01:08:14,400
just not I don't think Trump is
all that tight with the Heritage

1191
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,060
Foundation

1192
01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:17,520
John C Dvorak: of these that
tight with conservatives in

1193
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,430
general. Yeah. Well, so

1194
01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:22,530
Adam Curry: you can stop this
next one, whenever you want

1195
01:08:22,530 --> 01:08:28,950
this, this was a Tiktok. guy.
And he read the document, which

1196
01:08:28,980 --> 01:08:33,150
was dug a big document Project
2025, which in his mind is

1197
01:08:33,150 --> 01:08:37,470
Trump. This is not the Heritage
Foundation. In his mind. This is

1198
01:08:37,470 --> 01:08:42,180
the Trump document. And you can
deconstruct just by listening to

1199
01:08:42,180 --> 01:08:45,420
what he's saying, but how He's
twisting the words of what's

1200
01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:47,370
actually in there, I think
you'll like it. You haven't

1201
01:08:47,370 --> 01:08:47,730
heard her

1202
01:08:47,730 --> 01:08:51,210
Unknown: project 2025 Stop what
you're doing. And watch this

1203
01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:54,840
project. 2025 is a plan for
Trump's second term that would

1204
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,130
transform America into a far
right Christian nationalist

1205
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,690
militarized state. You can read
the nearly 1000 Page plan for

1206
01:09:03,690 --> 01:09:07,380
yourself at Project
2020 five.org. So you can know I

1207
01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:11,940
am not exaggerating three key
facts. Number one, a mass firing

1208
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:15,330
purge that Trump authorized
before the 2020 election but

1209
01:09:15,330 --> 01:09:19,470
never got the act on is at the
center of Project 2025. Now,

1210
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,580
more than 2 million Americans
across the country are part of

1211
01:09:23,580 --> 01:09:26,790
the Federal civilian workforce
scientists and scientific

1212
01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:30,990
agencies, doctors at the FDA
accountants at the IRS, we want

1213
01:09:30,990 --> 01:09:35,190
experts doing jobs that require
expertise. So

1214
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:37,830
Adam Curry: the document says,
Hey, we gotta get we got to pair

1215
01:09:37,830 --> 01:09:41,520
these agencies down there.
They're badgering the American

1216
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,990
public that turns into, we want
our doctors we want our tax

1217
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:47,130
experts, but more

1218
01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:50,610
Unknown: than 50,000 of them
would be fired under this plan

1219
01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:53,760
and replaced with mega
loyalists. Oh, will you lose the

1220
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,390
power of these agencies to
fundamentally change the nature

1221
01:09:57,390 --> 01:10:01,890
of America? Yes out needing to
involve Congress without

1222
01:10:01,890 --> 01:10:06,960
Congress to Project 2025 is a
far right Christian nationalist

1223
01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:10,950
agenda. Oh, there must be Nazis
like page five they're already

1224
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:15,960
proclaiming pornography should
be outlawed, but people who not

1225
01:10:16,050 --> 01:10:18,630
Adam Curry: okay, so I know a
lot of people are what hold on a

1226
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:21,990
second man Don't touch my porn.
But that's not what they're

1227
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:26,130
talking about this this is a
great twist of, of what's

1228
01:10:26,130 --> 01:10:29,760
actually in there because of
course it talking about the

1229
01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:34,170
material that is in books in
schools in grade schools to

1230
01:10:34,860 --> 01:10:38,220
John C Dvorak: grade schools
with all the basically

1231
01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:42,090
pornography that has been kind
of slipped into the grade

1232
01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:45,480
schools made in California, they
made it illegal to take those

1233
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,010
books out of the schools because

1234
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,260
Adam Curry: because porn is
great and push that

1235
01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:50,850
John C Dvorak: through, but he
doesn't really know what he's

1236
01:10:50,850 --> 01:10:51,330
doing.

1237
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,730
Adam Curry: But But it's
interesting that he phrases this

1238
01:10:53,730 --> 01:10:57,030
as they're going to outlaw
pornography. I mean, everyone's

1239
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:58,320
like, what, what?

1240
01:10:58,860 --> 01:11:01,440
John C Dvorak: What are you
gonna do? interesting twist.

1241
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,690
Adam Curry: Listen to the whole
thing. 25

1242
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,750
Unknown: is a far right
Christian nationalist agenda. By

1243
01:11:06,750 --> 01:11:10,800
page five, they're already
proclaiming pornography should

1244
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,790
be outlawed. But people who
produce and distribute it should

1245
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:18,720
be imprisoned educators and
public librarians who purvey it

1246
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,620
should be classed as registered
sex offenders. This would be

1247
01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:26,400
alarming enough if they were
talking about actual

1248
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,850
pornography, but their
definition spans anything that

1249
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:35,460
acknowledges the existence of
LGBTQ people claim on page 451

1250
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:39,240
that families comprised of a
married mother, father and their

1251
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,200
children are the foundation of a
well ordered nation and healthy

1252
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,310
society, thereby designating
queer people, single parents,

1253
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:50,910
unmarried co parents, and people
who get abortions as inherently

1254
01:11:50,910 --> 01:11:54,870
inferior and a threat to the
states. Notice the people who

1255
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:58,650
get abortions on page 584, they
call for the Department of Labor

1256
01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:02,370
to explicitly give companies
permission to discriminate

1257
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,250
against LGBTQ Americans on page
four,

1258
01:12:05,310 --> 01:12:07,500
Adam Curry: this is your thing.
This is your thing. You know,

1259
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:11,340
you always say you don't want
people with with the tattoos and

1260
01:12:11,340 --> 01:12:14,010
the piercings and the hair. You
don't want them in your company.

1261
01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:17,910
That is your horrible LGBTQ plus
hater.

1262
01:12:18,180 --> 01:12:24,270
John C Dvorak: I'm not an LGBTQ
hater. My take is, and I don't

1263
01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:27,840
think it's got anything to do
with any of these issues. Or you

1264
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:32,040
don't want certain kinds of
mentalities in your company that

1265
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,820
will just bring in others of the
same ilk. And then they'll turn

1266
01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:39,840
on you. Yes, Your company has to
be configured has to have one

1267
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,770
corporate culture of people that
are all in agreement lockstep so

1268
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:47,970
the company can survive can
survive and do well. So I say

1269
01:12:48,030 --> 01:12:51,360
make sure to do testing to make
sure that the woke aren't hired.

1270
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:54,330
Adam Curry: So you don't need to
hear more of this. Do you have

1271
01:12:54,330 --> 01:12:57,630
this particular one? I think
you've heard enough. Are you are

1272
01:12:57,630 --> 01:12:59,640
you pining for more? Do you want
more? I can play a little

1273
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,010
John C Dvorak: you know, you can
stop because I think you're

1274
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:08,490
probably Yeah, I but yeah, yeah,
this is what you do. So you just

1275
01:13:08,490 --> 01:13:12,630
read interpret, you can do that
with anything. And you just did

1276
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:13,710
it by turning on me.

1277
01:13:14,850 --> 01:13:18,600
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right.
I turned on. Yeah. Because, you

1278
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,270
know, no longer smoking dope
turned on you. That's

1279
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:23,640
John C Dvorak: exactly the
reason. If you were smoking

1280
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,410
dope, or whatever.

1281
01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:31,200
Adam Curry: Cool, man. So now,
the veck Vivec. All of a sudden,

1282
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:36,480
it dawned on me. He's working
for Trump. His job is the same

1283
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:42,270
job. No, but I mean, I hadn't
dawned on me until I saw parts

1284
01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:47,070
of his of his town hall, which
was quite funny. A couple of,

1285
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,190
John C Dvorak: he's hilarious.
In fact, he's, he's, he's

1286
01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:52,380
outdoing Trump in a lot of ways.
No, I

1287
01:13:52,380 --> 01:13:54,780
Adam Curry: think his whole
that's the whole Trump was like,

1288
01:13:54,900 --> 01:14:00,870
here's what you do. And he's may
even be writing some stick for

1289
01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:05,970
him. Stick a stick because Vivec
is doing stick and he's he's in

1290
01:14:05,970 --> 01:14:10,140
his good, and he's snappy. And
he is he is, I mean, he

1291
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:12,750
obviously has fu money so he
doesn't care.

1292
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:14,550
John C Dvorak: And I think you
know, he couldn't have a

1293
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:17,310
comedian coach. It feels

1294
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:21,630
Adam Curry: like it. He's he
even his hair. His hair wasn't

1295
01:14:21,630 --> 01:14:24,960
all crazy up in the air like
that all like Bozo before. I

1296
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,800
mean, he's Have you noticed
this? I'm a hair guy. Yeah. His

1297
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,450
hairs kind of his hairs a little
wacky,

1298
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:31,530
John C Dvorak: little more
manic.

1299
01:14:32,580 --> 01:14:35,400
Adam Curry: A little more manic.
Exactly. And just as Chris

1300
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:40,110
Christie's entire raison d'etre,
which is friends for reason for

1301
01:14:40,110 --> 01:14:44,490
being is to protect Nimrod.

1302
01:14:45,660 --> 01:14:47,700
John C Dvorak: What's your name?
Nimrod,

1303
01:14:48,210 --> 01:14:50,760
Adam Curry: Nimrod, Haley,
Nikki,

1304
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:52,650
John C Dvorak: Nikki, Haley,
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick,

1305
01:14:52,650 --> 01:14:53,040
Nikki.

1306
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,460
Adam Curry: The his whole job is
to protect her is to encircle

1307
01:14:56,460 --> 01:15:00,210
her. And to you know, to the
ward I'm the beside during That

1308
01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:04,260
debate for what we could watch
of it. So Overbeck is of avec is

1309
01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:07,080
doing the same thing for Trump,
but he's go, he's going out

1310
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,740
there, and he's delivering the
Trump message. If you had

1311
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:13,320
Unknown: told me it's close to
three years ago that January

1312
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,050
6 2021 happened if you'd told me
three years ago, back when I was

1313
01:15:16,050 --> 01:15:19,980
a biotech CEO, not steeped in
this world. I was just consuming

1314
01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:22,920
passive media, but was focused
on my world of developing

1315
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,920
medicines. If you had told me
that January 6 was in any way an

1316
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,250
inside job the subject of
government entrapment. I would

1317
01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:31,680
have told you that was crazy
talk. Fringe, this is

1318
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,990
Adam Curry: good. By the way,
this this is a good way to put

1319
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:39,150
it. Hey, you know, I mean, I was
making medicines that my mom

1320
01:15:39,150 --> 01:15:41,670
somehow was involved with, okay,
it doesn't matter. I was making

1321
01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:44,760
medicines. I was. I was a
biotech guy.

1322
01:15:46,290 --> 01:15:50,220
John C Dvorak: I have a red book
prediction. Go because if this

1323
01:15:50,220 --> 01:15:55,680
guy is, is doing a cover for
Trump, what is he going to end

1324
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,690
up as he's gonna get a
government job? Yes.

1325
01:15:57,690 --> 01:15:59,730
Adam Curry: He's getting a gig.
Sure. I

1326
01:15:59,730 --> 01:16:03,060
John C Dvorak: have had the
prediction, okay. ambassadorship

1327
01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:05,940
good. What his own choosing?
Yeah,

1328
01:16:05,970 --> 01:16:08,460
Adam Curry: but what would he
choose? Well, he

1329
01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:11,130
John C Dvorak: could choose
India. He could really have fun

1330
01:16:11,130 --> 01:16:12,330
down there. No, he

1331
01:16:12,330 --> 01:16:16,050
Adam Curry: bought the ones you
want. You want London you want

1332
01:16:16,050 --> 01:16:17,730
Paris? Paris? Yeah. You

1333
01:16:17,730 --> 01:16:20,790
John C Dvorak: don't want India
John Doerr over here at Kleiner

1334
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:23,820
Perkins was always supportive.
He wanted London he always

1335
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:28,560
various that he went to Paris.
Oh, either way. And he couldn't

1336
01:16:28,710 --> 01:16:31,650
get on the wrong horse. It was
too funny. Yeah. Did

1337
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:34,410
Adam Curry: you? Did you grow?
You're right. His he's like has

1338
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:37,230
Kramer from Seinfeld hair.
That's what he's got. It's

1339
01:16:37,230 --> 01:16:41,670
Kramer hair. There's something
about it. It's anyway. So he's

1340
01:16:41,670 --> 01:16:45,600
styled. He's doing as I was
reading People magazine, I will.

1341
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,290
I'm reading USA Today. I watch
Entertainment Tonight. I thought

1342
01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:52,560
this would have been crazy. But
no, I would

1343
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,320
Unknown: have told you that was
crazy talk. Fringe conspiracy

1344
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,970
theory nonsense. I can tell you
now having gone somewhat deep in

1345
01:16:59,970 --> 01:17:04,560
this. It's not. I mean, the
reality is this.

1346
01:17:04,650 --> 01:17:08,340
Adam Curry: Now, listen to the
back and forth with him. The

1347
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:10,140
news model from CNN, we

1348
01:17:10,140 --> 01:17:11,610
Unknown: do have a government.
First of all, we have to

1349
01:17:11,610 --> 01:17:14,130
acknowledge that has lied to us
systematically over the last

1350
01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:17,520
several years about the origin
of COVID-19. About the Hunter

1351
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,180
Biden laptop that we were told
was false. Yes, my 51 CIA

1352
01:17:21,180 --> 01:17:24,630
experts and otherwise, before we
now know that it was true, you

1353
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:27,600
could go straight down the list
of Trump Russia, disinformation,

1354
01:17:27,810 --> 01:17:31,710
collusion, hoax, all of it. Now
we've come to January 6. The

1355
01:17:31,710 --> 01:17:34,530
reality is we know that there
were federal law enforcement

1356
01:17:34,530 --> 01:17:36,870
agents in that field. We don't
know how many. I think it's

1357
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:38,490
shameful. Let me finish this
answer. But

1358
01:17:38,490 --> 01:17:41,640
let me just I'm gonna go ahead
and interrupt you here. Because

1359
01:17:41,820 --> 01:17:43,530
Because that the stablishment
has improved.

1360
01:17:44,580 --> 01:17:47,040
Adam Curry: Federal Did you
catch when he says, I know I

1361
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,900
missed it. He says, Yeah, I
understand. You have to

1362
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:50,910
interrupt me because the
establishment does not approve

1363
01:17:50,910 --> 01:17:54,090
this message. I get he's, he's,
he's doing stick.

1364
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,220
Unknown: I'm gonna go ahead and
interrupt you here. Because

1365
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,830
Because that establishment has
approved this message. I know

1366
01:17:58,830 --> 01:18:01,440
there were federal you're saying
that there were a federal

1367
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:02,370
system. This is important.

1368
01:18:04,380 --> 01:18:07,020
Adam Curry: I think they're
clapping for him and not for her

1369
01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:07,740
probably.

1370
01:18:09,090 --> 01:18:12,390
Unknown: On January. There is no
evidence that there were federal

1371
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:14,700
agents in the crowd on January.
So

1372
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:17,370
why before Congress when pressed
on what the number was they

1373
01:18:17,370 --> 01:18:18,630
didn't say they were not they
just couldn't

1374
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:21,450
see them. You're saying that
there's no that you have not

1375
01:18:21,450 --> 01:18:24,150
seen any evidence? We've seen
more and so you've

1376
01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:26,400
seen multiple informants
suggesting that there were we

1377
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,530
know people we know people were
FBI informants. So we're asking

1378
01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:29,940
is there any major

1379
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:32,940
comeback question but let me
clarify it was very

1380
01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:34,080
uncomfortable for I

1381
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,420
Adam Curry: know it's
uncomfortable for you. He's like

1382
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:39,510
I feel bad for you. I know I
understand. You have to do this.

1383
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,240
I know the control rooms yelling
in you. I'm so sorry

1384
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,580
Unknown: to give you hard facts.
And if I may I be I know this

1385
01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:46,770
can be a little uncomfortable.
We're gonna we're gonna go just

1386
01:18:46,770 --> 01:18:47,790
so you can you can even put

1387
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:55,500
Adam Curry: I'm waiting for the
evidence. She was like, This is

1388
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:58,470
gonna be great. This is my
launch into a primetime show on

1389
01:18:58,470 --> 01:19:01,290
CNN where girl What is this guy
doing uncomfortable,

1390
01:19:01,350 --> 01:19:03,000
Unknown: but we're gonna we're
gonna go through it and you can

1391
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,460
you can, you can push the
evidence and you can push back

1392
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:09,000
on that and let's do this
fairly. Why did they suppress

1393
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:12,900
footage of now what's been
released 200 hours of footage of

1394
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:16,200
shooting rubber bullets into
that crowd shooting tear gas

1395
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,570
into that crowd. You didn't see
that before you saw what the

1396
01:19:18,570 --> 01:19:21,540
response was to that. Now you'll
see footage coming out of

1397
01:19:21,540 --> 01:19:24,840
actually rolling out the red
carpet for Capitol Police

1398
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:25,320
allowing

1399
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,160
Ramaswamy in again right through
the front back to maturity that

1400
01:19:30,540 --> 01:19:33,990
Adam Curry: she's trying to live
No, no that the vast majority of

1401
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:36,420
that footage. Or at

1402
01:19:37,890 --> 01:19:41,100
Unknown: least the footage shows
my DPS officers being over

1403
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:43,920
talking about one more really
important writers that I'm going

1404
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,050
to write

1405
01:19:47,130 --> 01:19:51,060
very, I'm not sure if I can
finish it. I'm not sure if

1406
01:19:51,060 --> 01:19:54,870
the samples to the country to
the country sample

1407
01:19:56,730 --> 01:20:00,450
John C Dvorak: and stop it. So
what you've got here Er, which

1408
01:20:00,450 --> 01:20:03,630
is the interesting part. This is
supposed to be a debate between

1409
01:20:03,630 --> 01:20:04,500
the candidates.

1410
01:20:04,530 --> 01:20:06,750
Adam Curry: No, no, no, this is
not a debate. This is the town

1411
01:20:06,750 --> 01:20:07,140
hall.

1412
01:20:07,230 --> 01:20:08,430
John C Dvorak: This is the town
hall.

1413
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,200
Adam Curry: Poor lady Abby.

1414
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,250
John C Dvorak: She's is she
supposed to be arguing with the

1415
01:20:14,250 --> 01:20:14,670
guy?

1416
01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:20,040
Adam Curry: Yes. Because cherry
pick and tell them the vast

1417
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:26,580
majority. Tell them tell them
tell them you tell them. That's

1418
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:27,450
what's going on. That's

1419
01:20:27,450 --> 01:20:29,100
John C Dvorak: what they all
want. But that's what's going

1420
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:31,050
on. But it's that's the format?
No, of

1421
01:20:31,050 --> 01:20:32,610
Adam Curry: course not. He's
supposed to ask a question with

1422
01:20:32,610 --> 01:20:37,170
the guy answer. But the job now
of the interviewer is to fact

1423
01:20:37,170 --> 01:20:40,950
check in real time. I know this
because that's what Prof. G and

1424
01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:44,100
Kara are always talking about.
They want fact checking in real

1425
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:47,100
time. But her facts don't add
up.

1426
01:20:47,490 --> 01:20:51,240
Unknown: What here's what? I'm
not cherry picking. I finish it.

1427
01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:53,760
I'm not sure if the samples

1428
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:58,140
to the country to the contract.
For example. Government is what

1429
01:20:58,290 --> 01:20:58,710
government

1430
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,360
was afforded. When there was 200
hours of cherry picking was the

1431
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:04,140
government not made

1432
01:21:04,170 --> 01:21:06,810
Adam Curry: good. That's it.
That's that's someone who knows

1433
01:21:06,810 --> 01:21:08,310
what he's doing. He's been
trained. He

1434
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:11,340
John C Dvorak: is quick on the
draw. There's no doubt about it.

1435
01:21:11,340 --> 01:21:14,430
We've noticed that from the get
go. Yeah. So he's fast on his

1436
01:21:14,430 --> 01:21:18,330
feet. Yeah. He's also been
coached, obviously. I think

1437
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,960
obviously. And he's been and his
timing is good. Yes.

1438
01:21:22,020 --> 01:21:25,530
Adam Curry: And he's just any
any, like a board physical with

1439
01:21:25,530 --> 01:21:29,910
a big plate and you know, big
plank in front of his head is

1440
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:33,540
like, just ran right through
just talking right over her.

1441
01:21:34,170 --> 01:21:34,620
This.

1442
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,360
John C Dvorak: This explains
from the beginning when we both

1443
01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:43,230
were suspicious of the guy. Why
is he here? Yeah. What is he

1444
01:21:43,230 --> 01:21:46,260
doing it? And you had heard the
talk, right wing talk show guy

1445
01:21:46,260 --> 01:21:49,650
say the same thing. What is this
guy? Does he thinks he's good.

1446
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,370
They all say the same thing.
He's really good. But why is he

1447
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,420
does he expect to win anything?
What's going on? I think you

1448
01:21:57,420 --> 01:22:02,970
nailed it. Ambassador guy is
there as a foil. And he's great.

1449
01:22:02,970 --> 01:22:04,980
And he is really good.

1450
01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:08,940
Adam Curry: And he and he sticks
it all the way in and rotates,

1451
01:22:08,970 --> 01:22:11,370
and right up through the throat
with this one.

1452
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,930
Unknown: And let me let me just
finish one thing, because this

1453
01:22:12,930 --> 01:22:15,360
is super important as well. When
you think there's a civil

1454
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,880
libertarian issue of our time
when Richard was kidnapping. I

1455
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,800
want to keep it going to be
really clear on this because

1456
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,580
it's the same issue the same FBI
same even part of the FBI. Three

1457
01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:28,110
people who are an alleged plot
to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, were

1458
01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:32,760
acquitted at the end of trial,
because it was entrapment. That

1459
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,880
is government agents put them up
to do something they otherwise

1460
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,100
wouldn't have done. They given
credit cards with spending

1461
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:41,850
limits of up to $5,000 Encourage
them to buy munitions. Notice

1462
01:22:41,850 --> 01:22:43,530
Adam Curry: the control room
hasn't. They're like they're

1463
01:22:43,530 --> 01:22:46,170
like, look this up, look this
up. We got it. What is he doing?

1464
01:22:46,170 --> 01:22:48,330
It's a curveball. You're not
talking about Trump and looking

1465
01:22:48,330 --> 01:22:49,650
at that we need something quick

1466
01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:51,480
Unknown: plan something they
weren't otherwise willing to

1467
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:54,060
plan. So much. So and I want
people at home to know this,

1468
01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:58,020
especially CNN viewers to know
this is that one of the jurors

1469
01:22:58,140 --> 01:23:02,040
went to those defendants and
apologized afterwards, gave him

1470
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,640
a hug. Apologize, seeing what
the government had put a poor

1471
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,730
guy up to who had to go to some
Mexican restaurant across the

1472
01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:11,670
street to get hot water. These
people were exploited with

1473
01:23:11,670 --> 01:23:15,870
credit cards up to $5,000 FBI
agents, putting them up to a

1474
01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:17,970
kidnapping plot that we were
told was true but wasn't

1475
01:23:17,970 --> 01:23:20,220
traveling for dancing with the
Capitol police people letting

1476
01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:24,900
Ramaswamy many of those people
look at government put you I did

1477
01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:26,490
something and then charge
Ramaswamy

1478
01:23:27,180 --> 01:23:31,050
Adam Curry: I don't want to. I
don't want to have to spank you.

1479
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,480
Unknown: I don't want to. I
don't want to have to interrupt

1480
01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:37,260
you. I really don't. But I don't
want you to mislead the audience

1481
01:23:37,260 --> 01:23:37,590
here.

1482
01:23:39,060 --> 01:23:40,890
They've been misled by
mainstream media.

1483
01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:44,610
Guys good. Guys. Good.

1484
01:23:45,090 --> 01:23:47,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, we do
we start to watch him with this

1485
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:51,570
in mind. I think we'll
appreciate him more. Yeah.

1486
01:23:51,870 --> 01:23:55,050
Adam Curry: i And it dawned on
me too. I'm like, Oh, okay. That

1487
01:23:55,050 --> 01:23:57,810
makes that makes sense. That's
what he's there for. Totally.

1488
01:23:58,170 --> 01:24:00,060
John C Dvorak: Totally. And
that's why Trump doesn't go to

1489
01:24:00,060 --> 01:24:02,370
the database. Why? What's the
point? What's the point?

1490
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:07,380
Adam Curry: And it's, but it's,
it's so interesting. From a

1491
01:24:07,380 --> 01:24:11,040
media perspective, which is what
we do here we deconstruct media,

1492
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,400
how the media is, I mean, he
doesn't even have Twitter.

1493
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:18,840
Before he would do it on
Twitter. And then oh, Trump

1494
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,280
tweeted somebody and they talk
about him incessantly all day

1495
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,880
long and then not and he does
want the on Hannity on his home

1496
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,460
turf network. They can't ah, and
the ol boy is going to be a

1497
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:37,650
dictator over starting on day
one they're gonna do like genius

1498
01:24:37,650 --> 01:24:44,670
genius move and then he I don't
think anybody watches much of

1499
01:24:44,670 --> 01:24:48,840
the the evening talk shows. I
mean, we know the only talk show

1500
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,660
that people watch these days is
the one I don't like you like

1501
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:52,740
it, which is God felt.

1502
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,200
John C Dvorak: I just, I just
don't like me a long time.

1503
01:24:55,230 --> 01:24:58,620
Adam Curry: I don't like I don't
like Tim. I don't like Brutus.

1504
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,720
John C Dvorak: Whatever lame. A
big rush. I

1505
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,580
Adam Curry: don't know. I don't
like it. It's just it watching

1506
01:25:05,580 --> 01:25:07,620
John C Dvorak: just for the
occasional appearance of Emily

1507
01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:08,550
compagno.

1508
01:25:10,410 --> 01:25:12,810
Adam Curry: Yes, she's good.
They write for her. Yes, we

1509
01:25:12,810 --> 01:25:17,490
discussed this. So here's Jimmy
Kimmel Live, giving a full

1510
01:25:17,490 --> 01:25:21,030
minute and a half to Trump. I
mean, how dumb if they're if

1511
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:26,670
they really are operatives,
they're doing a bad job. And if

1512
01:25:26,670 --> 01:25:30,060
John C Dvorak: I think your
podcasting buddy nailed it, yes.

1513
01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:34,650
Adam Curry: But this is, I mean,
this Trump's writing material

1514
01:25:34,650 --> 01:25:37,830
for them, and they like, Oh,
this is funny. Let's use this

1515
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:41,310
material. I mean, how can you do
you really hate Trump Kimmel?

1516
01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:44,520
Seems like you want him to win
while Biden

1517
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,850
Unknown: and Zelinsky were busy
trying to sell Congress on

1518
01:25:47,850 --> 01:25:51,210
funding for Ukraine. Our foreign
president is looking for some

1519
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1525
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Adam Curry: Come on. This is
brilliant. He had the stupid

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1534
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Adam Curry: This is genius. They
cut up the suit. And he's giving

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1536
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1537
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Let's make fun of him. This is

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1551
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Adam Curry: I missed him in that
regard. I really missed it. Oh

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01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:26,040
man, that's genius. Stupid
morons.

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01:28:26,580 --> 01:28:28,830
John C Dvorak: It's too crazy to
be AI.

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01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,980
Adam Curry: Oh, no, it's not
it's it's not AI. It's the real

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01:28:31,980 --> 01:28:38,910
deal. That's him. That is him.
It's so good. Ah, makes

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John C Dvorak: view seeing the
changes changing the topic. Have

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you seen the channel one AI?

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01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:47,250
Adam Curry: Yeah, I saw like
horrible.

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01:28:48,330 --> 01:28:50,280
John C Dvorak: I didn't think it
was horrible at all. I have the

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01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,670
first minute of it. Click here
just to play. What's

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Adam Curry: it what's an under
our channel one? Well, it

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01:28:57,570 --> 01:29:01,260
doesn't really work. Just audio
you have to see the wooden

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01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:03,840
movements of the news models.
Hello.

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01:29:04,380 --> 01:29:07,530
Unknown: Welcome to channel one.
Oh, a new way of consuming

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reporting and thinking about the
news powered by artificial

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intelligence. Today you'll
witness AI generated stories and

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headlines, captivating visuals
and data driven insights. From

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global news to finance to
entertainment. We'll show you

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how technology enables us to
bring you a global perspective.

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01:29:28,410 --> 01:29:33,270
24/7 right from the heart of our
AI native newsroom, all

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01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:36,480
presented by our team of AI
generated reporters.

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Maybe you hear the words
artificial intelligence, and

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01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,500
you're immediately skeptical or
concerned about technology gone

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01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:47,700
crazy. But everything you'll see
on Channel One relies on trust.

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01:29:49,470 --> 01:29:52,170
John C Dvorak: Back it up a
little bit and now answer me

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01:29:52,170 --> 01:29:55,080
this. Why are their phones
ringing in the background?

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01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:57,990
Adam Curry: Well, because AI
determined that's what you need

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01:29:57,990 --> 01:30:00,750
to make it sound authentic. I'm
missing that. I'm missing the

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01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:01,650
teletype

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01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:06,000
John C Dvorak: yeah teletype
would probably be better you

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01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,330
know.

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01:30:07,799 --> 01:30:12,239
Adam Curry: Hello, welcome to AI
news brought to you by no agenda

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01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:16,589
show this is great boy look at
my arms. No not robotic at all.

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01:30:17,070 --> 01:30:19,500
John C Dvorak: You can you can
mark this like that. But in fact

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01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:23,670
is, is its people should go I
just tell it, you can listen to

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01:30:23,670 --> 01:30:28,500
Adam or you can listen to me.
Channel one.ai is the website

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01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:32,280
and watch this. I don't think
it's half bad. I think it's as

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01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:36,540
good as the actual network news.
Then they actually have a sample

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01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:39,780
news show and in fact on that
show, which they has real news

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01:30:39,780 --> 01:30:42,690
on it even though some of its
dated, there's a dated piece of

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01:30:42,690 --> 01:30:45,780
news which I was even unaware of
that you know, when they went to

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01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:51,630
the asteroid and grabbed some
asteroid rocks with that 10 year

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01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:54,480
mission or however long it took
to get there that the thing

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01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:59,370
never closed the grabber never
closed completely and it rocks

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01:30:59,370 --> 01:31:02,640
are being left all over the
space on the way back.

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01:31:04,170 --> 01:31:07,470
Adam Curry: I am very happy this
exists because when you get

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01:31:07,470 --> 01:31:11,400
tired of me I can continue the
show with my AI Dvorak. You

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01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,440
probably could no one will know
the difference

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01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:15,210
John C Dvorak: MQL they'll know
the difference because there's

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01:31:15,210 --> 01:31:17,520
no way that it can be funny. I
was just

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01:31:17,550 --> 01:31:19,950
Adam Curry: you can sit at home
and collect checks. What are you

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01:31:19,950 --> 01:31:23,940
waiting for? Seriously? Comic
Strip blogger Can you please

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01:31:23,940 --> 01:31:27,720
create a JCB AI you know what,
let's just start with one show a

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,020
week evening and do a whole show
you take one show a week off and

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01:31:31,020 --> 01:31:35,190
then it'd be fine it's gonna be
so good because AI is obviously

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01:31:35,190 --> 01:31:35,940
it's not that

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01:31:35,940 --> 01:31:38,820
John C Dvorak: bad I'm telling
you this Do people don't listen

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01:31:38,820 --> 01:31:43,650
to him listen to go to channel A
or channel one.ai which is the

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01:31:43,650 --> 01:31:48,360
website and I'm telling you this
is as good as CBS or any of

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01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,860
these local news is still got
charm noses in sloppier

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01:31:52,890 --> 01:31:56,040
Adam Curry: no no naked news
that still has chocolate

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01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:58,170
John C Dvorak: you know naked
news is probably still is the

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01:31:58,170 --> 01:31:58,470
best.

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01:31:59,070 --> 01:32:06,540
Adam Curry: This is pay well
cares this worth it. That fine.

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01:32:06,540 --> 01:32:08,130
Everybody can go listen to me by

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01:32:08,130 --> 01:32:11,430
John C Dvorak: the way. Channel
one could be channel one naked

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01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:15,030
they could do a naked news with
it because they can't seem to

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01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:20,160
fight they can't do people that
don't have a huge kids. So they

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01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,310
DO NAKED news but it'd be giant
breasts version. Yeah,

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01:32:23,610 --> 01:32:25,380
Adam Curry: I'd watch that.
Sure. Sure.

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01:32:25,410 --> 01:32:29,760
John C Dvorak: So I'm talking to
JC who's in involved in AI. He

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01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,100
says that. I don't know if I
mentioned this on the show

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01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:36,330
before but because there's so
many large breasted women in the

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01:32:36,330 --> 01:32:41,280
porn field where they're getting
a lot of their samples from the

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01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:46,470
AI guys can't really make women
with normal sized breasts. Yet,

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01:32:47,220 --> 01:32:49,500
Adam Curry: this whole I mean,
this is this is the business

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01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:52,860
model of AI. This is it.
Congratulations. We've got big

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01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:58,650
boobs, newsreaders, Herky jerky,
non throwing, not funny.

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01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:01,500
John C Dvorak: It's not Herky
jerky. I think you're wrong.

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01:33:01,530 --> 01:33:04,740
Adam Curry: I just watched it. I
watched the whole like, was it

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01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:09,750
11 minutes is boring, is boring.
The guy who comes in second is

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01:33:10,050 --> 01:33:12,810
he keeps doing the same hand
gestures, or

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01:33:12,810 --> 01:33:14,880
John C Dvorak: the hand
gestures. I'm not gonna argue

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01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,240
the hand gestures. It's bad,
because the guy's doing

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01:33:18,270 --> 01:33:21,660
meaningless hand gestures that
don't make any sense at all. But

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01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,650
this is just the beginning. It's
fine tuning this thing will

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01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,390
result in people that are
terrific looking and better than

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01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:35,280
the real deal. Hey, I agree AI
is great. It's good to rock

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01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:35,910
everybody.

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01:33:35,940 --> 01:33:41,910
Adam Curry: I need to mocking
mocking it. I'm mocking it. I am

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01:33:42,180 --> 01:33:47,550
mocking it. Because you're
because there will be a a

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01:33:47,550 --> 01:33:52,170
section of the public. That is
all in on this. And it won't be

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any cheaper. It won't be any
cheaper for news organizations

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01:33:55,740 --> 01:33:56,550
to they've already.

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01:33:58,230 --> 01:34:03,270
John C Dvorak: Norris 12 to $14
million a year. Then

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01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:06,150
Adam Curry: I will start my own
news channel and I'll hire Nora,

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01:34:06,450 --> 01:34:10,620
then it'll be better people want
human beings. That's just the

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01:34:10,620 --> 01:34:14,040
fact except for the NPCs I mean,
there's a sec but those people

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01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,160
are not worth anything. The
people who are enamored by this

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01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,970
type of entertainment are not
worth anything to advertisers.

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01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:22,200
They're just worthless people.

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01:34:23,580 --> 01:34:27,030
John C Dvorak: You're harsh I'm
because you you I earlier in the

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01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:28,290
show. I said you were a hater.

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01:34:29,580 --> 01:34:32,430
Adam Curry: I'm an AI hater.
Yes, because I think this is

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01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,630
bullcrap. I think it's there's
no business model. There. This

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01:34:36,630 --> 01:34:40,320
is little sparkly bits that
dangling in front of us. Where's

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01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,710
the channel? All right. Where's
the channel? There's no actual

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01:34:43,740 --> 01:34:47,970
channel one that is going to do
this. Where is it that where is

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01:34:47,970 --> 01:34:49,680
it going? Okay, it's not
admitted.

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01:34:52,380 --> 01:34:54,300
John C Dvorak: Now already have
the cast and crew

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01:34:54,330 --> 01:34:58,590
Adam Curry: VEC will be in
London or Paris before we before

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01:34:58,590 --> 01:35:03,240
we have a full new channel of AI
news models that people actually

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01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,230
what they can eat

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01:35:04,230 --> 01:35:06,270
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying
that's not a pod that's only six

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01:35:06,270 --> 01:35:10,020
months or a year away. God it
may take a couple of years Oh

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01:35:10,020 --> 01:35:12,990
God, people just go you go
yourself and make your own

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01:35:12,990 --> 01:35:16,680
determination channel one.ai and
check it out all right,

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01:35:16,710 --> 01:35:19,530
Adam Curry: well the minute that
launches on AI in you and then

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01:35:19,530 --> 01:35:21,840
that's it and then you can take
off I doubt that won't be

1675
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,860
working with you will be working
with your AI agent. Okay.

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01:35:26,670 --> 01:35:30,210
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna make
sure that I don't make you have

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01:35:30,210 --> 01:35:31,110
to be nice. I'll

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01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:37,260
Adam Curry: send you checks. No
problem. No. Going like, Man,

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01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:41,220
I'd be funnier than that stupid
computer. Man, he missed a great

1680
01:35:41,220 --> 01:35:42,090
opportunity.

1681
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,320
John C Dvorak: Just soft
balling, just willing to miss

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01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,640
that. Speaking

1683
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,990
Unknown: of AI, the European
Union passed the most

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01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:54,330
comprehensive and they listen

1685
01:35:54,330 --> 01:35:58,260
Adam Curry: to this guy. No, no
programmer would ever make this

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01:35:58,260 --> 01:36:01,920
guy in AI because they make him
to professional. I want to hear

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01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:07,230
like a wispy, lispy quasi gay
guy from time to time, because

1688
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,520
it makes me happy to listen to a
human who is different.

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01:36:12,270 --> 01:36:16,080
Unknown: The European Union
passed the most comprehensive

1690
01:36:16,290 --> 01:36:20,160
and ambitious regulations on
artificial intelligence. They

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01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,910
are the first major government
to ever pass set legislations

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01:36:24,210 --> 01:36:26,610
and the different ways they're
looking at how to monitor

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01:36:26,610 --> 01:36:30,060
artificial intelligence all the
way from hiring practices, from

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01:36:30,060 --> 01:36:34,710
the court system to self driving
autonomous cars. There's so much

1695
01:36:34,710 --> 01:36:37,410
things that comprehensive and
what's interesting about that is

1696
01:36:37,410 --> 01:36:40,530
that they're so far ahead of the
United States government.

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01:36:40,710 --> 01:36:42,510
Adam Curry: This is by the way
is Good Morning America.

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01:36:42,570 --> 01:36:44,670
Unknown: You think about the
dangers but let's talk about the

1699
01:36:44,670 --> 01:36:46,680
good things when it comes to AI.

1700
01:36:46,710 --> 01:36:49,320
Yeah, people look at AI for so
many different reasons. Either

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01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,380
glass is half full, the glass is
half empty. There's no glass,

1702
01:36:52,830 --> 01:36:56,190
the glass is half full. I don't
even we love football as well to

1703
01:36:56,190 --> 01:37:00,270
as DeMarco but even look at this
weekend's of our football and

1704
01:37:00,270 --> 01:37:03,660
weigh the article intelligence
being used is called NFL next

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01:37:03,660 --> 01:37:06,690
gen stats and it's powered by
neither of us was the Amazon

1706
01:37:06,690 --> 01:37:13,500
Web. Pressure probability, what
does that even mean? That

1707
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,920
basically means now coaches and
general managers, they can

1708
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:21,570
assess how quickly a quarterback
may be sacked based upon the

1709
01:37:21,570 --> 01:37:25,380
data on the defensive lineman,
but they can also to assess

1710
01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:28,560
based on the offensive lineman,
how well do they do in

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01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,860
protecting the quarterback over
historical period of data that

1712
01:37:31,860 --> 01:37:35,100
is presented. So even the things
that we love Eva and DeMarco,

1713
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:38,010
when it comes to football,
artists intelligence is helping

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01:37:38,010 --> 01:37:41,880
us call the game play by play is
make it more interactive, but

1715
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,030
also to even has to be critiqued
right, and we have to make sure

1716
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:48,960
guardrails are in place. But we
have the power as Americans get

1717
01:37:48,990 --> 01:37:51,780
into the driver's seat God
challenging our elected

1718
01:37:51,780 --> 01:37:54,120
officials to look at the
holistic point of view,

1719
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,640
artificial intelligence. And I
think that is

1720
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:58,950
one thing that's good. And

1721
01:38:00,150 --> 01:38:04,140
Adam Curry: my, you know, my
algorithms could replace this

1722
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:07,410
guy's intelligence, but yeah,
perfect. So okay, that's

1723
01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:10,410
algorithm. Everything is AI
these days, everything we got an

1724
01:38:10,410 --> 01:38:12,780
email from, I'm not going to
read it. But we got an email

1725
01:38:12,780 --> 01:38:16,620
from a guy who works at a big
trading firm. He says, Hey, man,

1726
01:38:16,710 --> 01:38:19,470
you said there's no business
model. We got a business model

1727
01:38:19,470 --> 01:38:23,550
and we have a hub pay $150,000 a
year for AI in our company. I'm

1728
01:38:23,550 --> 01:38:27,300
like, Oh, this is interesting.
So are you making $150 billion a

1729
01:38:27,300 --> 01:38:30,960
year with your AI trading? Well,
no, we have an HR database.

1730
01:38:31,530 --> 01:38:34,830
Because you can look up HR stuff
we filled it all up and we can

1731
01:38:34,830 --> 01:38:37,800
query the database so the AI
give those answers where the

1732
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:44,580
chat bot Polly's AI winter
coming, AI winter coming. Peak

1733
01:38:44,610 --> 01:38:49,200
AI now AI peak AI to AI winter
that you know what it's going to

1734
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,320
be? They're going to pivot to
coin a phrase they're going to

1735
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:58,500
pivot to quantum computing. No,
they're not Yeah, they are they

1736
01:38:58,860 --> 01:39:02,700
new work. They need a new thing
that sucks up cycles, so Nvidia

1737
01:39:02,700 --> 01:39:07,830
can be even more powerful. This
the only thing that's changed

1738
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:12,630
from the from the late 80s is
more faster computers. It's the

1739
01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:17,130
same dumb stuff. Symbols tokens.
It's all the same stuff as lisp.

1740
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:19,710
I'd really like

1741
01:39:19,710 --> 01:39:23,280
John C Dvorak: to get dead gag
in there. Nobody gets it. By the

1742
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:23,580
way. A

1743
01:39:23,580 --> 01:39:26,730
Adam Curry: lot of Emacs guys
are going Yeah. Yeah.

1744
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:29,340
John C Dvorak: Both of them that
listen to the show. Yeah,

1745
01:39:29,340 --> 01:39:33,420
Adam Curry: man. Yeah, Emacs,
Emacs. Man. Screw VI. Emacs, you

1746
01:39:33,420 --> 01:39:37,500
can do Lisp programming.
Alright, let's switch to some

1747
01:39:37,500 --> 01:39:42,300
more mainstream nonsense. We are
desperately trying. We are using

1748
01:39:42,330 --> 01:39:45,840
everything we can. We're using
every single advertising and

1749
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,940
native ad dollar we have. We
need to make sure that we get

1750
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:59,550
GLP one drugs into Medicare. I
don't care how we do it. We've

1751
01:39:59,550 --> 01:40:02,910
got to get added in there, Oprah
came out. And you know, Oprah is

1752
01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:07,470
co owner now of WW, which is the
new name for Weight Watchers.

1753
01:40:08,010 --> 01:40:12,150
And we had the CEO of
weightwatchers. On the last show

1754
01:40:12,150 --> 01:40:16,560
of the show before that, saying,
We're sorry, we were wrong. Oh,

1755
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:21,000
no, it's not about food is not
about portion control. You have

1756
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:25,500
a disease. You have a sickness,
how now but you still need to

1757
01:40:25,500 --> 01:40:29,280
use us because we bought a
company that will telemedicine

1758
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,430
subscribe you all of these
wonderful drugs, and we'll help

1759
01:40:32,430 --> 01:40:36,690
you manage it. We'll help you
manage it. So the end of them so

1760
01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:42,240
Oprah did a big a big article,
big interview exclusive.

1761
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,280
John C Dvorak: Have you seen a
lie? Have you she needs more

1762
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:44,640
money?

1763
01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:48,540
Adam Curry: Have you seen her? I
mean, she looks phenomenal.

1764
01:40:49,020 --> 01:40:52,770
Oprah defends her use of weight
loss medication. Obesity is a

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01:40:52,770 --> 01:40:57,390
disease because she's a doctor.
And this all the doctors are in

1766
01:40:57,390 --> 01:41:00,360
on this. I don't really know one
that has said it outright like

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01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:05,610
that. But they're a little too.
Chicken, I think to say it. But

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01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:10,470
Oprah says Obesity is a disease.
It's not about willpower. It's

1769
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:16,620
about the brain. Yes, yes. And
now we've got to get it into

1770
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:19,710
kids. And we need it on
Medicare. Let's go to America's

1771
01:41:19,710 --> 01:41:20,670
most trusted doctor.

1772
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,350
Unknown: That was America's
favorite doctor. And there's a

1773
01:41:22,350 --> 01:41:24,750
new study out here that
suggested popular weight loss

1774
01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:27,870
drugs may be safe during
pregnancy. But for now, a

1775
01:41:27,870 --> 01:41:30,120
warning labels caution against
the use during pregnancy and

1776
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:31,980
consumption. So what so Another

1777
01:41:31,980 --> 01:41:35,190
week, another day another
headline with these GLP one

1778
01:41:35,190 --> 01:41:39,240
agonists like we go V ozempic
Manjaro. This latest study

1779
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,270
published in JAMA Internal
Medicine, really looking

1780
01:41:42,330 --> 01:41:47,400
retrospectively at pregnant
women who were on diabetes

1781
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,550
medication and how their
pregnancies when whether there

1782
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:54,120
were any risks to the fetus and
the offspring. We're still in

1783
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,630
the infancy pardon the pun in
terms of this, because right

1784
01:41:57,630 --> 01:42:02,520
now, these drugs like ozempic
are not recommended for women to

1785
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,100
take during pregnancy. But we
always have to err on the side

1786
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,220
of caution when you're talking
about what can and can not be

1787
01:42:08,220 --> 01:42:12,390
taken during pregnancy. But big
picture here, we know that

1788
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:16,020
hyperglycemia, which is elevated
blood glucose levels during

1789
01:42:16,020 --> 01:42:19,500
pregnancy, really not good for
the fetus. In addition to the

1790
01:42:19,530 --> 01:42:23,280
pregnant woman, we know that
certain medications given to

1791
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:23,760
people with

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01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:27,750
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Dr. Jen
is pregnant people eat us,

1793
01:42:27,780 --> 01:42:30,570
Unknown: in addition to the
pregnant woman, we know that

1794
01:42:30,570 --> 01:42:34,680
certain medications given to
people with diabetes are okay

1795
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:38,460
during pregnancy, insulin, the
sulfonylureas. We have good data

1796
01:42:38,460 --> 01:42:42,060
and track record on that. But
again, when you talk about risk

1797
01:42:42,060 --> 01:42:45,930
benefit, which you guys have
heard, many, many times, we know

1798
01:42:45,930 --> 01:42:49,800
that there are real risks to a
woman who's overweight or obese,

1799
01:42:50,580 --> 01:42:53,970
diabetic during pregnancy, to
her risk to the fetus. So I

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01:42:53,970 --> 01:42:56,790
think we're gonna see a lot more
research with this class of

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01:42:56,790 --> 01:43:00,840
medication that's just
stimulated and triggered by the

1802
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,110
popularity and use of them. So
this data that you're looking at

1803
01:43:04,110 --> 01:43:06,210
now, this is just because people
were taking it and then they

1804
01:43:06,210 --> 01:43:12,210
discovered the good side. I'm
just so fascinated by it. People

1805
01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:15,210
are using it. That's actually
how we back into a lot of data

1806
01:43:15,210 --> 01:43:17,490
when people are on the
medication. And then you know,

1807
01:43:17,490 --> 01:43:20,370
we follow them for another
reason. Really interesting. Very

1808
01:43:20,370 --> 01:43:22,320
Adam Curry: interesting. Okay.
But you know, we really need to

1809
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,090
get it into the children. I
mean, we're trying to get into

1810
01:43:24,090 --> 01:43:28,140
the fetus. It was so successful
with COVID. The COVID vaccines

1811
01:43:28,140 --> 01:43:31,650
were great for feet. Hi, let's
go to Dr. Celine

1812
01:43:31,650 --> 01:43:34,650
Unknown: doctors and parents to
in the US are now being urged to

1813
01:43:34,650 --> 01:43:38,340
take an aggressive new approach
against childhood obesity. It's

1814
01:43:38,340 --> 01:43:41,100
a problem that affects nearly
one in five children and teens

1815
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,940
in this country. And the US
Preventive Task Force clash is

1816
01:43:44,940 --> 01:43:48,750
now saying that doctors need to
intervene, starting with kids as

1817
01:43:48,750 --> 01:43:52,140
young as the age of six. Dr.
Celine gounder, is here to tell

1818
01:43:52,140 --> 01:43:54,600
us what parents need to know.
Dr. gounder. Thank you very much

1819
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,500
for being here. I understand
intensive counseling is the idea

1820
01:43:58,500 --> 01:44:00,300
here. What is it? How soon
should it start?

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01:44:00,330 --> 01:44:03,150
Adam Curry: Now this is weird,
because they start with this

1822
01:44:03,150 --> 01:44:07,890
whole counseling counts. I was
trying to figure this out. But

1823
01:44:07,890 --> 01:44:12,330
what are you talking about? It's
a disease. Oprah said so what

1824
01:44:12,330 --> 01:44:14,550
know what, what is this
counseling bit about?

1825
01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:18,180
Unknown: So we're talking about
a minimum of 26 hours per year.

1826
01:44:18,180 --> 01:44:20,850
So if you break that down, that
comes down to say half an hour

1827
01:44:20,850 --> 01:44:24,810
per week or an hour per week of
meeting with specialists on a

1828
01:44:24,810 --> 01:44:27,900
consistent basis. So that could
be everyone from a dietician to

1829
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:31,170
a physical therapist or trainer
to a mental health specialists

1830
01:44:31,170 --> 01:44:34,440
to really address what are the
issues that are driving the

1831
01:44:34,440 --> 01:44:35,040
obesity?

1832
01:44:35,070 --> 01:44:37,980
Adam Curry: Wait a minute,
obesity is an illness I do not

1833
01:44:37,980 --> 01:44:40,950
understand. And it started to
dawn as this went a little

1834
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:43,830
further as they brought out the
racial profiling.

1835
01:44:43,860 --> 01:44:46,830
Unknown: I don't want to be
negative. I'm sure any number of

1836
01:44:46,830 --> 01:44:49,140
hours would help. But if you're
living all of your hours in a

1837
01:44:49,140 --> 01:44:52,140
world where you became obese,
what are 26 hours going to do to

1838
01:44:52,140 --> 01:44:53,130
change the equation?

1839
01:44:53,610 --> 01:44:55,890
Well, this is a really important
point because a lot of what is

1840
01:44:55,890 --> 01:44:58,920
driving this is one the culture
of the community, the culture of

1841
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,530
the family, how they Eat. So
it's not just about addressing

1842
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,800
Adam Curry: when they say
culture, that's code for black

1843
01:45:04,830 --> 01:45:05,670
the child,

1844
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,500
Unknown: you also need to have
an environment where you have

1845
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:10,230
access to healthy food and many
communities that might come to

1846
01:45:10,230 --> 01:45:12,750
the store where they have to
shop, particularly in parts of

1847
01:45:12,750 --> 01:45:16,560
the South. And then are there
safe places where kids can

1848
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,680
actually play an exercise in
many communities that may not be

1849
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,030
the case, communities

1850
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:23,490
Adam Curry: culture, they're
going after poor people, and

1851
01:45:23,490 --> 01:45:26,610
particularly poor black people,
because they want it on Medicare

1852
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,220
Unknown: together. The American
Academy of Pediatrics also

1853
01:45:29,220 --> 01:45:32,430
released guidelines saying that
12 years old or older as a

1854
01:45:32,430 --> 01:45:37,230
suggested age, for weight loss,
drugs and even surgery. I mean,

1855
01:45:37,410 --> 01:45:40,140
on the surface, that sounds kind
of shocking, but But what is the

1856
01:45:40,140 --> 01:45:43,080
rationale is it because of the
long term health effects that,

1857
01:45:43,260 --> 01:45:45,930
you know, curbing obesity could
create? Well, this is an

1858
01:45:45,930 --> 01:45:46,260
important

1859
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,780
important point, the US
Preventive Services Task Force,

1860
01:45:48,780 --> 01:45:51,870
they are not recommending
surgery and weight loss

1861
01:45:51,870 --> 01:45:54,630
medications, they're just
recommended that recommending

1862
01:45:54,630 --> 01:45:58,020
the behavioral interventions.
And I think the discrepancy in

1863
01:45:58,020 --> 01:46:00,930
some of the debate in the
medical community is that we are

1864
01:46:00,930 --> 01:46:04,110
seeing people getting more and
more obese adults and children,

1865
01:46:04,110 --> 01:46:06,930
we're seeing obesity start at a
younger and younger age, and

1866
01:46:06,930 --> 01:46:10,740
there's this desperation to do
something. Now whether it can

1867
01:46:10,740 --> 01:46:13,740
help and giving weight loss
drugs to kids, you know, that

1868
01:46:13,740 --> 01:46:17,130
really remains to be seen. And
they're only approved for people

1869
01:46:17,130 --> 01:46:18,840
12 And up right now. Oh,

1870
01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:20,580
Adam Curry: because Oh, drove it
up.

1871
01:46:20,610 --> 01:46:23,940
Unknown: This is a good start,
if people are curious about that

1872
01:46:23,940 --> 01:46:26,610
is insurance covering weight
loss drugs for children

1873
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:31,590
start covering starting at the
age of 12. But many of the

1874
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:34,230
private insurance companies are
being very restrictive about

1875
01:46:34,230 --> 01:46:38,490
coverage. So it's not enough to
be obese very often to get

1876
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:41,610
expensive, right? They're very
expensive drugs. And then if

1877
01:46:41,610 --> 01:46:44,220
you're on Medicaid, and most
people don't realize this, the

1878
01:46:44,220 --> 01:46:47,460
majority of kids in this country
are on Medicaid, nevermind

1879
01:46:47,460 --> 01:46:50,820
lawyer communities and state
Medicaid programs really cannot

1880
01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:52,500
afford to be covering these for
all kids.

1881
01:46:52,530 --> 01:46:55,620
Adam Curry: I can almost read
the material she was given. It

1882
01:46:55,620 --> 01:46:59,340
was just like the movies. Were
here comes the representative.

1883
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,400
Okay, you know, but we're really
this is very important because

1884
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,160
you know, kids need access to
this. Do you know how many

1885
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,740
children most children in
America on Medicaid because

1886
01:47:07,740 --> 01:47:11,460
they're poor? They're poor? And
you know, black kids they know

1887
01:47:11,460 --> 01:47:14,250
they have they're more prone to
diabetes, because you know, they

1888
01:47:14,250 --> 01:47:17,460
live in the only God is Dollar
General now down at McDonald's,

1889
01:47:17,460 --> 01:47:18,150
I mean, come on

1890
01:47:18,150 --> 01:47:20,700
Unknown: low income families and
communities are hardest hit by

1891
01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:23,970
this obesity epidemic. How do
these interventions work in

1892
01:47:23,970 --> 01:47:25,110
those words? Well,

1893
01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:28,620
it's really hard you can say to
somebody portion control, and

1894
01:47:28,620 --> 01:47:30,990
here's how to read food labels.
And this is what you should

1895
01:47:31,710 --> 01:47:35,160
stick to fresh foods, not
packaged foods. But if you can't

1896
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:39,120
even buy that, or if it's not
affordable access to time,

1897
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:42,000
right? You don't. These are not
realistic education.

1898
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,490
Because all of these habits are
passed down generational

1899
01:47:44,490 --> 01:47:45,240
generational

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01:47:46,230 --> 01:47:46,770
Adam Curry: culture,

1901
01:47:46,770 --> 01:47:48,960
Unknown: the family and culture
community and that's hard to

1902
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:50,520
change. Dr. Brower, thank

1903
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,260
you so much. It's really
fascinating. You

1904
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:54,420
Adam Curry: can fasten that you
can just wait for it that's

1905
01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:58,500
coming is coming is coming. This
is the entire push. By the way.

1906
01:47:58,500 --> 01:48:01,530
You guys are on DH and plug you
were talking about the new

1907
01:48:01,530 --> 01:48:06,960
McDonald's concept. MC cosmic I
think is what it's called. I

1908
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:11,430
think that MC cosmic is genius.
I think they've launched it at

1909
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:16,530
exactly the right time. Because
it is like a crack house for

1910
01:48:16,530 --> 01:48:21,060
crack addicts and as drive thru,
because you it's It's Sugar

1911
01:48:21,060 --> 01:48:26,100
Bombs, it's got. It's got
colors, it's got crazy names.

1912
01:48:26,220 --> 01:48:30,000
It's highly TIG talkable. And we
don't have to worry about it

1913
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,600
because just go get a shot. He
just go get a shot. Just go get

1914
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,280
a shot. Now. I think

1915
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,640
John C Dvorak: we indicated this
to our Well, I don't think we

1916
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,280
really thought it was genius by
any means. But

1917
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,010
Adam Curry: I think McDonald's
for the win. If I was an

1918
01:48:44,010 --> 01:48:48,720
investing man, I'd invest in
McDonald's, not advice. Now we

1919
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,230
do have a little problem. We
have a little bit of a problem

1920
01:48:52,230 --> 01:48:57,750
because this is just GLP one
stuff. As you know, this is a

1921
01:48:57,750 --> 01:49:02,490
generic PE you don't necessarily
need the ozempic will go P

1922
01:49:02,490 --> 01:49:05,880
brands. You can get it at your
pharmacy you can have a compound

1923
01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:12,630
and this is this is a problem.
So Sanjay Sanjay Yeah, we want

1924
01:49:12,630 --> 01:49:15,030
you to do a report. We're gonna
have it we're gonna give you the

1925
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:18,840
exclusive. But we're gonna have
we're gonna Dr. Jen's gonna roll

1926
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,580
it out too. So you might as well
roll it out

1927
01:49:20,580 --> 01:49:23,310
Unknown: first. Sanjay was in
control centers across the

1928
01:49:23,310 --> 01:49:26,460
country, so they're seeing a
15 100% increase in people

1929
01:49:26,460 --> 01:49:29,130
accidentally overdosing
uninjected Weight Loss drugs.

1930
01:49:29,370 --> 01:49:33,090
15 100% CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay

1931
01:49:33,210 --> 01:49:36,720
Gupta joins us wait wait, are
there

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01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,540
John C Dvorak: real numbers here
because 15 100% means you can go

1933
01:49:39,540 --> 01:49:44,970
from one to two is like 1,000%
or 100%. Well, we went I went to

1934
01:49:44,970 --> 01:49:48,750
15 I mean, you know it's never
been reported before that just a

1935
01:49:48,750 --> 01:49:51,900
percentage numbers useless. We
need numbers do they get they

1936
01:49:51,900 --> 01:49:53,880
give them nevermind. I'm sure
they give them yes,

1937
01:49:53,940 --> 01:49:56,940
Adam Curry: they do. Actually 2%
of the American public is taking

1938
01:49:56,940 --> 01:50:01,860
these drugs 2% of them American
public is taking these drugs,

1939
01:50:01,890 --> 01:50:05,460
people and they're laid off
injecting. Listen to the report.

1940
01:50:05,490 --> 01:50:08,490
Sanjay is rolling it out. He's
got the exclusive poisoned

1941
01:50:08,490 --> 01:50:08,790
people

1942
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:11,460
Unknown: accidentally overdosing
on injected weight loss drugs.

1943
01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:15,870
15 100%. CNN CHIEF MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay Gupta

1944
01:50:15,870 --> 01:50:19,110
joins us now, Sanjay, are these
all connected? Why is this

1945
01:50:19,110 --> 01:50:21,930
happening with this, this is
kind of amazing. If you look at

1946
01:50:21,930 --> 01:50:25,170
just the number of prescriptions
that have gone out there, it's

1947
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,690
skyrocketed. Most of these drugs
have only been around a few

1948
01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:30,090
years now. But just take a look
at sort of what's happened over

1949
01:50:30,090 --> 01:50:33,450
the past few years, close to 2%
of the population of this

1950
01:50:33,450 --> 01:50:36,990
country has been prescribed this
medication at some point. That's

1951
01:50:37,020 --> 01:50:40,590
that's, that's shocking. I mean,
these are huge. And obviously,

1952
01:50:40,590 --> 01:50:43,410
even around the world, this is
prescribed a lot. As you

1953
01:50:43,410 --> 01:50:45,900
prescribe more and more, you're
not surprised to get more and

1954
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:49,410
more sort of accidental
poisonings, overdoses, things

1955
01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:51,030
like that. But I want to show
you something else that I think

1956
01:50:51,030 --> 01:50:54,000
is important here, you started
to see the numbers go up in

1957
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,900
March of 2022. All the shortages
started happening. And what

1958
01:50:57,900 --> 01:51:00,840
happened as a result, pharmacies
came in and they started making

1959
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,660
their own, they started making
their own compounded sort of

1960
01:51:03,660 --> 01:51:06,480
versions of this that were not
tested for safety and efficacy.

1961
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,940
And you started to see the
poisoning rates go up at that

1962
01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:11,160
point as well. So that may be
part of this.

1963
01:51:13,020 --> 01:51:17,610
Adam Curry: Don't take that
stuff. You might die. Don't take

1964
01:51:17,610 --> 01:51:24,090
the stuff from your pharmacy is
poison. It's unbelievable.

1965
01:51:25,230 --> 01:51:27,300
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
been a war against compounding

1966
01:51:27,300 --> 01:51:31,260
pharmacies for as long as we've
been doing the show. Yes. But

1967
01:51:31,260 --> 01:51:37,740
Adam Curry: this is clearly and
squarely targeting, you know,

1968
01:51:37,770 --> 01:51:39,690
any alternative to

1969
01:51:41,190 --> 01:51:43,740
John C Dvorak: $1,000 Compared
to 20? Yes.

1970
01:51:44,580 --> 01:51:50,610
Adam Curry: Something like that.
Yeah. People turn off what

1971
01:51:50,610 --> 01:51:52,890
John C Dvorak: is by the way, do
they describe in his crappy

1972
01:51:52,890 --> 01:51:56,910
report, the symptoms of
overdosing on these things? Yes.

1973
01:51:56,940 --> 01:51:58,710
Adam Curry: I didn't. I didn't
cut that. But yeah,

1974
01:51:58,740 --> 01:52:00,990
John C Dvorak: I would just say
what it was, oh,

1975
01:52:01,050 --> 01:52:05,430
Adam Curry: literally puking
diarrhea, painting your gut

1976
01:52:05,460 --> 01:52:09,660
this. To me, that's all the
features of this stuff. Is the

1977
01:52:09,660 --> 01:52:16,200
poisoning is the same as the
actual results of taking it. In

1978
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:21,270
general. Yeah, it was it was
stupid. And then it's like,

1979
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:24,180
well, you know, the half life of
this stuff is two weeks. So you

1980
01:52:24,180 --> 01:52:27,210
know, if you if you OD on it,
you can't just stop not like

1981
01:52:27,210 --> 01:52:35,010
getting your stop up. Be cute.
Puking for weeks. Yeah, yeah.

1982
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:36,690
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna change
topics.

1983
01:52:36,690 --> 01:52:37,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good.

1984
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,530
John C Dvorak: Let's start
there. So I'm watching the

1985
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interview with the industry.
This is one of those like mini

1986
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deconstructions with Tucker
Carlson and Alex Jones.

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Adam Curry: Oh, I actually
texted with him about this. So

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John C Dvorak: you texted who?
Alex? What did he say?

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01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,170
Adam Curry: No, I texted him. I
said, he does a great job on

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01:53:01,170 --> 01:53:07,920
Tucker. And he said, I can tell
you what he said. He said, What

1991
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:16,440
is it? He said something like I
can I just got to look at my

1992
01:53:16,440 --> 01:53:24,150
text. Alex. Yes, here it is. He
said, The tide is turning across

1993
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the spectrum.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
interesting. So it did get him

1995
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back on Twitter. I'm pretty sure
that triggered it because he

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01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:37,350
made a big fuss about that. But
I just caught a couple of things

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that I thought were interesting.
And the first one is in clip one

1998
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is very short. And I want to
ask, I'll ask you about it

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01:53:46,530 --> 01:53:48,990
because I was confused by it.
Here we go.

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01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:52,170
Unknown: When you got D
platformed. it to this day, no

2001
01:53:52,170 --> 01:53:54,960
one has ever been more
aggressively censored. I don't

2002
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,470
think then you have I have
apologized in person before I

2003
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was in Labrador on a fishing
trip and missed the entire thing

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01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:05,400
was literally out of cell range.
Yes.

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01:54:06,750 --> 01:54:12,120
John C Dvorak: He says I
apologize to you. Yeah. What it

2006
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:19,230
Why is he apologizing? Did he do
it? I mean, I can say I was I

2007
01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:23,670
had condolences. Maybe or I felt
bad about it, because this

2008
01:54:23,670 --> 01:54:25,740
happened could have been
anybody. But why is he

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apologizing specifically?

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Adam Curry: I believe having
seen this interview, which I

2011
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,180
have heard a lot of people say
wow, you know, I he was a lot

2012
01:54:36,180 --> 01:54:38,250
more sane than I expected him.
Oh, he's

2013
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John C Dvorak: always good.
Jones has always been good on

2014
01:54:40,290 --> 01:54:41,040
these interviews.

2015
01:54:41,550 --> 01:54:46,080
Adam Curry: I think it's because
Tucker says somewhere in this

2016
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,780
like no one came to your
defense. No, that's

2017
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John C Dvorak: the next clip.
I've

2018
01:54:49,590 --> 01:54:51,630
Adam Curry: got that too. That
comes right after it. Well, that

2019
01:54:51,630 --> 01:54:54,600
doesn't. That's what it was
about that. He apologize not

2020
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:58,140
that he was going to do it per
se but he he felt like it. He

2021
01:54:58,140 --> 01:55:01,080
was out of the loop. He was
literally Out of cell range in

2022
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,370
Labrador fishing.

2023
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:07,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but but at
that point he needed to what's

2024
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:11,700
the apology for? I don't know
coming to your defense is one

2025
01:55:11,700 --> 01:55:15,270
thing hide by you know what are
you apologizing for not coming

2026
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:17,070
to your defense he would have
said hold

2027
01:55:17,070 --> 01:55:20,370
Adam Curry: on let me text
Tucker the hell you text hugger.

2028
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John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go
with the second part is got

2029
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:27,030
another little ditty in here,
which is at the very end, which

2030
01:55:27,030 --> 01:55:29,760
is like I didn't know this was
going on. I

2031
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Unknown: didn't know what
happened. But I got back and I

2032
01:55:31,500 --> 01:55:34,680
was and I read about it. I felt
like it was a major moment in

2033
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,350
the history of American media. I
don't think anybody defended

2034
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:40,950
you. When that happened. Anybody
with any kind of audience

2035
01:55:40,980 --> 01:55:44,040
for me when Tim Cook admitted
that he met on the weekend in

2036
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August 2017, with the other big
tech heads, and they made the

2037
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:51,960
decision to curate like, it's a
museum and take me off. It was

2038
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hundreds of platforms. I mean,
it wasn't just all the big ones

2039
01:55:54,660 --> 01:55:56,880
that was everything from
LinkedIn, to our bank accounts

2040
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,060
being taken away to everything
and suing that week and over the

2041
01:56:00,060 --> 01:56:04,260
next month. And I knew that I
was a test case and I wasn't

2042
01:56:04,260 --> 01:56:09,690
taken off those platforms for
any demonstrable reason. It was

2043
01:56:09,690 --> 01:56:13,020
the questioning the school
shooting thing that came later,

2044
01:56:13,110 --> 01:56:15,480
they went and kind of dredge
that up from my past just

2045
01:56:15,630 --> 01:56:18,660
questioning and a few times,
blew that up after I've been D

2046
01:56:18,660 --> 01:56:21,150
platformed. And said I was the
platform for that. But we

2047
01:56:21,150 --> 01:56:25,740
checked the record. I wasn't.
And so once they D platforming

2048
01:56:25,770 --> 01:56:28,560
it made the show in ways only
get bigger, but people actually

2049
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,410
going to infowars.com and find
me on local radio stations and

2050
01:56:31,410 --> 01:56:34,260
things. So then they panic and
said, Okay, let's look at his

2051
01:56:34,260 --> 01:56:37,680
record and create more of a
reason. These big taken off. So

2052
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,980
they took things out of context
from five, six years before blew

2053
01:56:40,980 --> 01:56:44,040
them up as a current thing out
of context. And deceptively

2054
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,250
reported on what I've said, to
create a straw man argument to

2055
01:56:47,250 --> 01:56:48,480
them facilitate the reason

2056
01:56:48,570 --> 01:56:51,750
what's so crazy is if you asked
just a cross section of

2057
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:56,160
Americans, who's responsible for
the Sandy Hook massacre of kids

2058
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:59,700
at the school, no one remembers
the name of the murderer, Adam

2059
01:56:59,700 --> 01:57:04,050
Lanza. Okay, thank you. I didn't
remember Alex Jones, you they

2060
01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:06,510
effectively blamed you for a
school shooting that you were

2061
01:57:06,510 --> 01:57:07,680
not President, I have people

2062
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,020
coming up to me in the parking
lot. You can ask my security

2063
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:12,990
guy. He's been there when people
walk up and get Waje kill those

2064
01:57:12,990 --> 01:57:15,510
kids. And you know, I didn't
kill those kids. And they go,

2065
01:57:15,510 --> 01:57:20,970
Yeah, you did. And so that is
what this has turned into. Okay.

2066
01:57:21,630 --> 01:57:24,450
John C Dvorak: I find it very
peculiar that the public at

2067
01:57:24,450 --> 01:57:28,890
large. Is that dumb to think
that Alex Jones killed the kids

2068
01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:33,540
at Sandy Hook? And I believe
he's probably telling the truth.

2069
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,840
Security Guard is in the studio.
True

2070
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:40,410
Adam Curry: as well. I think
it's true as well. Yes, people

2071
01:57:40,410 --> 01:57:44,040
are very, you know, remember,
just like Vivec they're sitting

2072
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:48,450
at home reading People Magazine
reading Oprah. Now Oprah is on

2073
01:57:48,450 --> 01:57:51,300
this on this shot. I should get
on it with my fat ass. This is

2074
01:57:51,300 --> 01:57:57,660
good. The Alex Jones? Well, I'll
give you an example of why

2075
01:57:57,660 --> 01:58:02,700
people believe this kind of why,
why they believe that stuff. And

2076
01:58:02,700 --> 01:58:06,930
I have some some thoughts about
all this. This is Piers Morgan

2077
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,440
on the Alex Jones being back on
x. Oh,

2078
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,500
Unknown: passionate defender of
free speech. There's a massive

2079
01:58:13,500 --> 01:58:16,680
clue in the name of the show
uncensored, and I believe in it.

2080
01:58:16,770 --> 01:58:19,920
I believe that all honestly held
opinions. However offensive they

2081
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,070
are belong in the open, where
they can be challenged, debated

2082
01:58:23,370 --> 01:58:26,370
and exposed. But there are
limits on free speech. There are

2083
01:58:26,370 --> 01:58:28,470
laws and there is a line.

2084
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:31,800
Adam Curry: I love that. I
believe in free speech. But

2085
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:32,820
there's a line.

2086
01:58:33,150 --> 01:58:35,580
Unknown: I've always said that
Alex Jones is a perfect example

2087
01:58:35,580 --> 01:58:39,900
of where that line got crossed.
He's a conspiracy theorist and

2088
01:58:39,900 --> 01:58:43,530
shock jock in America made
hundreds of millions of dollars

2089
01:58:43,530 --> 01:58:48,360
by peddling outrageous lies at
the Sandy Hook School massacre

2090
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:51,990
shooting was a hoax. For the
uninitiated. This is him

2091
01:58:52,020 --> 01:58:55,080
shouting at me. A week after
that massacre on CNN.

2092
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:59,340
The tyrants did it. Hitler took
the guns. Stalin took the guns

2093
01:58:59,370 --> 01:59:02,850
mounted the guns. Fidel Castro
took the guns, though. Chavez

2094
01:59:02,850 --> 01:59:07,710
took the guns, and I'm here to
tell you 1776. Again, if you try

2095
01:59:07,710 --> 01:59:10,560
to take our firearms doesn't
matter how many lemmings you get

2096
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:12,870
out there on the street begging
for him to have their guns

2097
01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:16,110
taken? We will not relinquish
them. Do you understand?

2098
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,490
He kind of won that debate,
actually, because the only

2099
01:59:20,490 --> 01:59:23,760
response in America to the Sandy
Hook massacre was to do nothing.

2100
01:59:24,210 --> 01:59:27,960
In fact, they continue to sell a
lot more guns. A million new

2101
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:31,470
guns get sold in America every
month. And they're already over

2102
01:59:31,470 --> 01:59:34,140
400 million in circulation. So
if you're wondering if you're

2103
01:59:34,140 --> 01:59:37,350
curious why there are so many
more mass shootings in America

2104
01:59:37,350 --> 01:59:40,320
than they used to be. That's why
and if you're wondering what's

2105
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:44,610
going to happen in the next few
years as a million new guns into

2106
01:59:44,610 --> 01:59:49,200
circulation, and nothing gets
done to stop mass shootings. My

2107
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:50,910
guess is there'll be a lot more
mass shootings.

2108
01:59:50,940 --> 01:59:54,000
Adam Curry: So there you go. So
Piers Morgan makes it about Alex

2109
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:58,980
Jones equals mass shootings in
America. This is because of this

2110
01:59:58,980 --> 02:00:01,950
by the way, Peter Here's Morgan
I believe the guy who was

2111
02:00:02,220 --> 02:00:05,700
partially if not fully
responsible for spying on dead

2112
02:00:05,700 --> 02:00:09,270
people's phones and getting
their voicemails and publishing

2113
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:15,630
them. Today a horrible man. But
there's something else going on

2114
02:00:15,630 --> 02:00:19,560
here. And you know, I don't like
Elon Musk. I don't trust him. I

2115
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:23,340
think he's full of crap. He's
not an inventor. He's a

2116
02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:27,900
marketing guy, a very good one.
He's part of a cabal with Roelof

2117
02:00:27,900 --> 02:00:32,250
Botha, who is now the CEO of
Sequoia Capital. I've seen these

2118
02:00:32,250 --> 02:00:35,160
guys in action. I was at the
launch of the very first Tesla

2119
02:00:35,490 --> 02:00:38,580
Roadster when he bought it. I
went there with Ray lane. The

2120
02:00:38,580 --> 02:00:47,100
whole thing is creepy AF. And he
now he single handedly launched

2121
02:00:47,490 --> 02:00:53,940
the bull crap, electrified
revolution. And I don't care how

2122
02:00:53,940 --> 02:00:58,020
cool the cybertruck is
engineered this not a good thing

2123
02:00:58,020 --> 02:01:06,090
for the world. He has
effectively Skynet. Now we all

2124
02:01:06,090 --> 02:01:11,010
joke about oh, Skynet. He has
Skynet. He has a company that

2125
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:16,590
will bore tunnels for the elites
to escape through. He has the

2126
02:01:16,590 --> 02:01:20,700
next generation of jacking into
your brain with neural net none

2127
02:01:20,700 --> 02:01:25,590
of that in any other world where
he was free speech. This guy

2128
02:01:25,590 --> 02:01:29,310
would be no good. But we're all
enamored with him Tony Stark,

2129
02:01:29,310 --> 02:01:33,690
the whole thing. It's beautiful
marketing is perfect. So then he

2130
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:38,670
does this thing. It's set up by
of all people. Laura Loomer

2131
02:01:38,670 --> 02:01:42,510
actually was a part of this.
They set up the spaces. And

2132
02:01:42,510 --> 02:01:48,510
that's where Alex Jones was
reintroduced to x and Elon Musk

2133
02:01:48,660 --> 02:01:51,990
that I don't include any of
this, believe me, he comes out

2134
02:01:51,990 --> 02:01:54,330
with this whole thing. Well, I
went back into Twitter records.

2135
02:01:54,540 --> 02:01:57,000
And the reason you were banned
was not for anything you said

2136
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,460
about Sandy Hook. The reason you
were banned is because you

2137
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:03,180
assaulted Oliver Darcy, you
assaulted a journalist and

2138
02:02:03,180 --> 02:02:06,720
that's why you were banned. And
then he goes into this whole

2139
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:11,160
thing at Musk is I mean, the
whole thing is full of crap. And

2140
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:15,840
all these people start to jump
in on what I call the info

2141
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:20,400
Mavericks. Or maybe we should
call them the truth warriors.

2142
02:02:20,820 --> 02:02:24,300
Laura Loomer upfront who kept
trying to jump in. Yeah, Alex,

2143
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:26,850
when you and I were there, we
said we got right and Jack

2144
02:02:26,850 --> 02:02:30,300
Dorsey's face. And so they start
cutting Laura Loomer off because

2145
02:02:30,300 --> 02:02:34,050
she's annoying. Laura Loomer is
annoying. And she just keeps

2146
02:02:34,050 --> 02:02:36,450
jumping in and they were cutting
her off and then she's all

2147
02:02:36,630 --> 02:02:39,660
leaves in a huff. And they bring
in all these other people but

2148
02:02:39,660 --> 02:02:42,930
there's, there's the there's the
guy who was in hungry, whatever,

2149
02:02:42,930 --> 02:02:46,650
wherever you live, what's his
name Tate that he comes in, and

2150
02:02:46,650 --> 02:02:50,040
then Vivec jumps in, and all
these people are all jumping in.

2151
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:55,110
This is the new mainstream media
and Elon Musk is in charge of

2152
02:02:55,110 --> 02:02:59,670
this. He is the hero beware of
false idols. Beware of false

2153
02:02:59,670 --> 02:03:04,320
idols. Here's a Jake Tapper on
the on what happened here? Let

2154
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:06,990
me see. Do I want this one? No,
I don't want that long. I get

2155
02:03:06,990 --> 02:03:07,410
this one

2156
02:03:07,710 --> 02:03:12,660
Unknown: says Alex Jones account
has been restored. Now it's not

2157
02:03:12,660 --> 02:03:15,630
just up there. It's actively
being promoted across the

2158
02:03:15,630 --> 02:03:16,230
platform.

2159
02:03:16,740 --> 02:03:19,410
That's right, Jake. Yeah, I'm
Alex Jones. It looks like he's

2160
02:03:19,410 --> 02:03:23,130
he's actually grown his audience
by about 100,000 followers just

2161
02:03:23,190 --> 02:03:26,370
being since put back on the
platform, our colleague Claire

2162
02:03:26,370 --> 02:03:31,290
Duffy, reporting that people
have opened up x the Twitter app

2163
02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:34,170
today. Even if they haven't
followed Jones, a lot of people

2164
02:03:34,170 --> 02:03:37,800
have been saying that in the
algorithmic feed that promotes

2165
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:42,360
accounts suggesting to people
that they should follow Jones's

2166
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:45,300
account. That is, of course,
five years after he was

2167
02:03:45,330 --> 02:03:48,420
initially kicked off the
platform. And really, you know,

2168
02:03:48,420 --> 02:03:51,270
I think this is just so
illustrative of what we're

2169
02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:55,680
seeing happen with x, but also
with Elon Musk, because he kind

2170
02:03:55,680 --> 02:04:00,420
of journeys very publicly down
this rabbit hole of conspiracy

2171
02:04:00,420 --> 02:04:02,610
theories, Jake. So

2172
02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:07,050
Adam Curry: this is a launch by
Elon Musk. It's a launch and

2173
02:04:07,050 --> 02:04:10,260
He's launching something really
big. And I think we have to be

2174
02:04:10,260 --> 02:04:14,220
very careful. I mean, Alex is
Alex and he's a sweetheart. He

2175
02:04:14,220 --> 02:04:17,640
was dropped on his head, his
baby, that's actually true. So

2176
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:20,400
he does have some brain day he'd
be the first to tell you that.

2177
02:04:20,610 --> 02:04:23,640
But he's basically a sweetheart
and he's more right than he's

2178
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:27,720
wrong. In many things. I don't
think he's part of any

2179
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,110
gatekeeping community but Elon
Musk is and he's building up a

2180
02:04:31,110 --> 02:04:34,350
whole bunch of people around him
and they're willing participants

2181
02:04:34,350 --> 02:04:38,070
they're all I mean, it's Megyn
Kelly it's bond Gino, it's all

2182
02:04:38,070 --> 02:04:41,280
these people and they're
distracting everybody into this

2183
02:04:41,820 --> 02:04:47,190
audio visual Twitter world of
like Tim Poole stuff it's it's

2184
02:04:47,190 --> 02:04:47,730
creepy

2185
02:04:47,730 --> 02:04:51,690
Unknown: Yeah, he's he's not
even just bring this the account

2186
02:04:51,690 --> 02:04:54,870
back. He's playing a role in
elevating Alex Jones account

2187
02:04:54,870 --> 02:05:00,360
last night he hosted this x live
stream interview with with him

2188
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:04,350
and a whole bunch of other
questionable folks were were

2189
02:05:04,380 --> 02:05:07,710
joining him Andrew Tate, this
misogynistic internet

2190
02:05:07,710 --> 02:05:10,980
personality who was indicted on
human trafficking and rape

2191
02:05:10,980 --> 02:05:13,950
charges in remote Romania
earlier this year. And to be

2192
02:05:13,950 --> 02:05:17,070
completely frank Dhoni, Tate
wasn't even the worst dude in

2193
02:05:17,070 --> 02:05:20,730
that conversation. What? Why is
Musk even engaging with these

2194
02:05:20,730 --> 02:05:22,440
people? Yeah. And

2195
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:26,130
look, I mean, I think you showed
there that tweet, as you pointed

2196
02:05:26,130 --> 02:05:29,340
out, very human tweet from Musk
last year, where he said, Look,

2197
02:05:29,340 --> 02:05:33,480
what, what Alex Jones said,
there was so false and

2198
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:37,440
disgusting about Sandy Hook,
that he would never get back on

2199
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,710
the platform. Because of that.
You've now seen that over the

2200
02:05:40,710 --> 02:05:45,570
past year, Musk, you know, kind
of going further and further and

2201
02:05:45,570 --> 02:05:50,760
further to the fringe even up to
a few weeks ago, agreeing with a

2202
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:53,880
anti semitic posts, which he
later tried to clarify and did a

2203
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:57,600
trip to Israel and things like
that. But you know, I've spent a

2204
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:01,080
lot of the past few years
speaking to people who have gone

2205
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:04,890
down rabbit holes of
radicalization theories and

2206
02:06:04,890 --> 02:06:09,480
speak to families of Oh, who
have loved ones. And it is quite

2207
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:12,330
reminiscent of that when you see
that, of course, but in this

2208
02:06:12,330 --> 02:06:16,350
case, it is one of the most
powerful and one of the

2209
02:06:16,380 --> 02:06:19,080
wealthiest men in the world. And
he's promoting these people. And

2210
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:22,440
I will just say that that audio
stream you mentioned, on last

2211
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:25,770
check, it had 11 million people
11 million listeners. Now, of

2212
02:06:25,770 --> 02:06:29,550
course, numbers online can be a
little deceiving, but needless

2213
02:06:29,550 --> 02:06:34,860
to say, millions of people now
have access to this junk.

2214
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,690
Adam Curry: Yes, people love the
junk. Go I have a very bad

2215
02:06:39,690 --> 02:06:45,090
feeling about this. I really do.
This is this is this is a

2216
02:06:45,090 --> 02:06:49,830
distraction is being set up.
It's like follow the plan, trust

2217
02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:54,810
the plan. Now a storm is coming,
which is what the Bolsheviks

2218
02:06:54,810 --> 02:06:56,040
said all the time.

2219
02:06:59,310 --> 02:07:01,740
John C Dvorak: It was what was
that message? Jones said back to

2220
02:07:01,740 --> 02:07:02,250
you again.

2221
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:12,120
Adam Curry: He said I want to
get it verbatim. He said the tie

2222
02:07:13,380 --> 02:07:20,010
again here is he said The tide
is turning across the spectrum.

2223
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:28,200
And now there is a tide is
turning because things are

2224
02:07:28,230 --> 02:07:32,340
starting to eat themselves the
wokeness in companies I mean

2225
02:07:32,340 --> 02:07:36,030
stuff is coming out things are
definitely changing. But I don't

2226
02:07:36,030 --> 02:07:40,950
trust this group. I just I and
musk at the helm. And then like

2227
02:07:40,980 --> 02:07:44,490
and he's like, Oh, I shall I
shall reinstate you ping. I will

2228
02:07:44,490 --> 02:07:48,270
wave my made magic fairy wand
and you're back and good to go.

2229
02:07:48,870 --> 02:07:52,290
I don't and I'll and Tucker is
also probably a part of this.

2230
02:07:52,380 --> 02:07:55,770
And it's not like a secret
society. But you know, what is

2231
02:07:55,770 --> 02:08:00,480
Tucker doing? He's back with
that. Whistleblower on the UFOs.

2232
02:08:00,780 --> 02:08:05,850
Oh, boy. Yeah, I'm very good. He
went on redacted which please

2233
02:08:05,850 --> 02:08:08,430
don't send me clips from
redacted. I'm not interested in

2234
02:08:08,430 --> 02:08:12,030
redacted. And Tucker did an
interview on redacted because we

2235
02:08:12,030 --> 02:08:16,320
know Clayton and Natalie Morris.
I personally Yeah, personally,

2236
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:20,430
I'm not impressed. What are they
doing in Portugal? Roche.

2237
02:08:21,450 --> 02:08:24,360
They're pro television people.
You train Natalie. So yeah,

2238
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:29,400
they're pros. And I don't know
about that guy do I do. But

2239
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:31,920
Tucker goes on there. And it's
like, let me tell you the thing

2240
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:34,410
I'm most worried about is UFO.
So it's really you know, the

2241
02:08:34,410 --> 02:08:44,130
government's holding stuff back
and dude, no, no. So I I'm this

2242
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:45,300
is this is a weird

2243
02:08:46,020 --> 02:08:46,950
John C Dvorak: issue too.

2244
02:08:47,190 --> 02:08:50,490
Adam Curry: Yes. What's your
issue? What's your issue?

2245
02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:54,720
John C Dvorak: I think Tucker's,
you know, well, we always have

2246
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:59,190
to remember anyone who says they
wanted to be a spy for the CIA

2247
02:08:59,220 --> 02:09:06,210
probably is one. It's like a
friend of mine, Gina Smith, who

2248
02:09:06,210 --> 02:09:10,560
has been on television she has
been around. She told me about

2249
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:13,200
the whole thing where the CIA
approached her while she was in

2250
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,530
college because she was in
journalism. And she did laid out

2251
02:09:16,530 --> 02:09:19,290
the whole thing about can you
work for us? You don't really

2252
02:09:19,290 --> 02:09:21,630
you're not really working for us
but we'll send you a check every

2253
02:09:21,630 --> 02:09:24,300
so often we're going to have to
call you because sometimes we

2254
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:30,540
need to make some this was
recently Yeah, we have to get a

2255
02:09:30,540 --> 02:09:33,780
certain kind of a message out we
needed to be consolidated it

2256
02:09:33,780 --> 02:09:35,070
really they really said

2257
02:09:35,070 --> 02:09:37,680
Adam Curry: it like that. Pretty
much Wow.

2258
02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:40,440
John C Dvorak: And she wasn't
going to be working for the

2259
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:42,990
agency but she was going to be
in touch.

2260
02:09:45,060 --> 02:09:47,640
Adam Curry: How come I don't get
that call? If I never got the

2261
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,700
call. I got family in the CIA
and I didn't get that call.

2262
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:54,930
John C Dvorak: But you yourself
said that they don't

2263
02:09:55,500 --> 02:09:57,330
Adam Curry: you know, what is
it? They didn't they never liked

2264
02:09:57,330 --> 02:09:59,220
the drugs. I think it was the
day don't like

2265
02:09:59,220 --> 02:10:01,800
John C Dvorak: drugs and like
draws like a key thing in your

2266
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:05,700
day when drinkers, they like
drinkers. drinkers is good.

2267
02:10:05,850 --> 02:10:11,430
Yeah. So she went on and on
about this and and I always

2268
02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:15,390
thought, Okay, I'll remember
that. And I was there. Of

2269
02:10:15,390 --> 02:10:18,570
course, I don't know what the
criteria is. There's probably

2270
02:10:18,570 --> 02:10:23,070
one specific. And I think talker
is one of these guys. And I

2271
02:10:23,070 --> 02:10:28,080
think the other one wants to be
in the CIA or wanted to be made

2272
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:32,430
a big fuss about it is Kara
Swisher Kara. And there's

2273
02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:35,340
others. There's a bunch of them.
It's usually the funny thing

2274
02:10:35,340 --> 02:10:40,380
about this is always on the wiki
page, which is to Me a tell

2275
02:10:40,530 --> 02:10:43,770
that's designed for people in
the know to spot and say, oh,

2276
02:10:43,770 --> 02:10:47,550
okay, that's, we know which side
you're on. Yeah, I think it's

2277
02:10:47,550 --> 02:10:48,660
put there on purpose.

2278
02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:51,420
Adam Curry: You know, we may not
we may get things wrong a lot.

2279
02:10:51,420 --> 02:10:57,660
We may be full of crap. But I
think we're more trustworthy

2280
02:10:57,660 --> 02:11:01,530
than what's going on here. This
is not good. This is not what

2281
02:11:01,530 --> 02:11:06,000
Elon is doing. At the idolatry
that is taking place around

2282
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,000
everything he does. And Eli's
neck deep and government

2283
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:13,020
contract. That's all that he
doesn't. And why so Okay, so Ha,

2284
02:11:13,020 --> 02:11:16,200
boy, we'll we'll make your cars
look bad for a moment here.

2285
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:21,360
Yeah, you know, we'll, we'll
we'll make a dei problem out of

2286
02:11:22,620 --> 02:11:25,470
out of your hiring practices at
SpaceX, but not a single

2287
02:11:25,470 --> 02:11:29,610
contract is cancelled. In fact,
he's, he he's only sold more

2288
02:11:29,610 --> 02:11:34,890
Starlink. To military. And he
doesn't really cop to it either.

2289
02:11:35,220 --> 02:11:39,330
That's why he was in in Israel.
He was selling Starlink.

2290
02:11:39,870 --> 02:11:41,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's why
he was there was doing it wasn't

2291
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,650
an Apollo no sales sales

2292
02:11:43,650 --> 02:11:46,440
Adam Curry: call. It was a sales
call. So then when you know,

2293
02:11:46,500 --> 02:11:48,450
when you get this question here,
last clip?

2294
02:11:48,630 --> 02:11:51,240
Unknown: Yeah, it's we should
also know, Jones offenses are

2295
02:11:51,540 --> 02:11:55,230
there more than just the Sandy
Hook campaign, which was vile

2296
02:11:55,230 --> 02:11:58,320
enough in and of itself. But,
you know, he had a lot of files

2297
02:11:58,320 --> 02:12:00,930
that the insurrection on January
6, who are charged with serious

2298
02:12:00,930 --> 02:12:06,210
crimes, and one wonders, is Elon
Musk trying to chase normal

2299
02:12:06,210 --> 02:12:11,460
people off x, is he trying to
chase advertisers away even more

2300
02:12:11,460 --> 02:12:12,900
than he already has?

2301
02:12:13,110 --> 02:12:15,930
I mean, I think the conventional
wisdom here would say, you know,

2302
02:12:15,930 --> 02:12:18,120
this is going to push
advertisers away, it certainly

2303
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:21,030
is going to be very interesting
what major brands, like

2304
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:24,360
including the NFL are going to
do as this platform continues to

2305
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:28,500
seemingly descend. But let's not
forget, there is a lot of money

2306
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:31,710
in bullshit as well, right? I
mean, we saw this through the

2307
02:12:32,010 --> 02:12:36,570
Jones trial, how he made a lot
of money. And if you really tap

2308
02:12:36,570 --> 02:12:40,140
into this world, along with
Tucker Carlson and General

2309
02:12:40,140 --> 02:12:43,440
Michael Flynn and others, people
who who are taking kind of park

2310
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:47,790
now in this new X community,
that can potentially be quite

2311
02:12:47,790 --> 02:12:51,360
lucrative, and potentially,
that's the direction Musk wants

2312
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:52,380
to go a lot

2313
02:12:52,380 --> 02:12:54,450
of money and a lot of votes, a

2314
02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:57,810
Adam Curry: lot of votes. Hey,
okay.

2315
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:03,030
John C Dvorak: A lot of vote.
Yep. Oh, by the way, code word,

2316
02:13:03,060 --> 02:13:06,540
left wing code, word assignment.
A certain side of things is

2317
02:13:06,540 --> 02:13:07,920
vile. Oh, is

2318
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:09,180
Adam Curry: that a code word?
Vile?

2319
02:13:09,210 --> 02:13:11,550
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've
noticed that for it. Because I

2320
02:13:11,610 --> 02:13:14,550
told people that and they use it
all the time. They file vile

2321
02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:18,660
about me. Thank you. It's like a
secret handshake,

2322
02:13:18,750 --> 02:13:20,790
Adam Curry: where you say via
what you guys said bullshit on

2323
02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:24,180
the air that's new that used to
be like that. I used to be a no,

2324
02:13:24,180 --> 02:13:29,820
no. See, I had one other thing
that I was meaning to play from.

2325
02:13:29,850 --> 02:13:38,760
Oh, yes. So anyway, it stinks.
The whole thing stinks. I'm sure

2326
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:43,380
that you know, the the whole
idea is get as many people on X

2327
02:13:43,380 --> 02:13:48,630
believing and all in all Elans
get Flynn was also on that call.

2328
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,960
I mean, I hate to say it, but my
neighbor, you know, she's

2329
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:54,780
another one of them. I'm just
like, you know, let's all go

2330
02:13:54,780 --> 02:13:57,930
crazy about this one particular
thing, this one particular

2331
02:13:57,930 --> 02:14:01,620
topic. Let's all focus on that
today. That's we're supposed to

2332
02:14:01,620 --> 02:14:05,790
be looking at it meanwhile, who
is your neighbor, Laura Logan.

2333
02:14:06,270 --> 02:14:10,380
And meanwhile, Pfizer just gets
thrown into the NDA and we're

2334
02:14:10,380 --> 02:14:13,050
all talking about Obama being
racist. Do you see you see the

2335
02:14:13,050 --> 02:14:16,800
pattern? That's that's what I'm
seeing. I'm seeing like everyone

2336
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:20,310
talks about Obama's a racist,
but meanwhile, it's like oh,

2337
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:24,990
China, China, Korea, Iran, Iran,
Iran Hall got back home and you

2338
02:14:24,990 --> 02:14:28,530
Oh, space. Oh, space. We need
more money for space for

2339
02:14:28,530 --> 02:14:32,520
defense. And then oh, by the
way, no one's talking about the

2340
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:37,530
FISA being extended. Renewed
right there in the bill, except

2341
02:14:37,530 --> 02:14:39,150
for Matt gates on C span.

2342
02:14:40,170 --> 02:14:43,050
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and
everyone thinks he's nuts. Yeah,

2343
02:14:43,050 --> 02:14:44,340
he's a child molester.

2344
02:14:44,430 --> 02:14:47,130
Adam Curry: That's and who's out
there calling him a horrible

2345
02:14:47,130 --> 02:14:51,930
person. Laura Loomer. She's on
Twitter going mad gay. It's it's

2346
02:14:51,930 --> 02:14:56,340
common. Yeah, we're gonna you're
gonna learn about him. She's

2347
02:14:56,340 --> 02:14:59,250
this what she's doing all day
long and she's she's kind of

2348
02:14:59,250 --> 02:15:04,470
like the ugly step step sister
of this of this group, like, Oh,

2349
02:15:04,530 --> 02:15:08,280
I'm gonna let her in, because
she has Alex's number, but she's

2350
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:15,000
annoying. cut her off. cut her
off. Cut all of them off.

2351
02:15:15,630 --> 02:15:18,150
John C Dvorak: Okay, all right.
Hey, H topics again.

2352
02:15:18,180 --> 02:15:20,490
Adam Curry: Yep. Do you want to
hear the OP want to hear the OP,

2353
02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:21,720
John C Dvorak: there's an OP,

2354
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:24,120
Adam Curry: there's an OP, the
OP is moving to Harvard. If

2355
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:26,640
Unknown: you're a Swifty, you'll
probably like this course. If

2356
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:29,730
you're a fan of Taylor Swift and
literature, you'll probably love

2357
02:15:29,730 --> 02:15:35,010
it. You can learn a lot from
Taylor Swift and earn credits

2358
02:15:35,010 --> 02:15:37,410
for it this spring at Harvard.
It's a literature

2359
02:15:37,410 --> 02:15:40,350
John C Dvorak: course. And it
has a lot of songs and

2360
02:15:40,350 --> 02:15:41,010
songwriting.

2361
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:43,290
Unknown: The course is the
brainchild of Harvard English

2362
02:15:43,290 --> 02:15:46,770
professor Stephanie Byrd. It's
called Taylor Swift in her world

2363
02:15:46,860 --> 02:15:49,530
and will focus on the
songwriters, lyrics and creative

2364
02:15:49,530 --> 02:15:52,530
composition and how they're
connected to other page based

2365
02:15:52,530 --> 02:15:53,850
poets and authors,

2366
02:15:53,850 --> 02:15:55,440
John C Dvorak: you know, William
Wordsworth and Samuel Taylor

2367
02:15:55,440 --> 02:15:58,290
Coleridge, who wrote some of
their poems in the Lake

2368
02:15:58,290 --> 02:16:03,960
District, which Taylor has
visited and has song about the

2369
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:04,290
class

2370
02:16:04,290 --> 02:16:07,170
Unknown: is also a chance to
study how swift employs video,

2371
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:10,950
her social media and stage
presence and even couture as

2372
02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:14,370
vehicles for her art. News of
the course is already blowing up

2373
02:16:14,370 --> 02:16:18,270
social media, an estimated 300
students have already enrolled,

2374
02:16:18,300 --> 02:16:18,660
I think

2375
02:16:18,660 --> 02:16:23,370
it's really important to include
music or culture into normal

2376
02:16:23,370 --> 02:16:25,200
pedagogies to get students
engaged.

2377
02:16:26,910 --> 02:16:28,980
Adam Curry: I think it would be
really cool and to connect like

2378
02:16:28,980 --> 02:16:31,890
different subjects to her music
at the end of the day, I

2379
02:16:31,890 --> 02:16:33,930
Unknown: mean, there's a reason
people want to have a course on

2380
02:16:33,930 --> 02:16:35,130
it. So after discussion,

2381
02:16:35,159 --> 02:16:40,499
John C Dvorak: I love that I'm
able to do this in a way that

2382
02:16:40,499 --> 02:16:45,659
both gives people the chance to
study and write about things

2383
02:16:45,659 --> 02:16:47,879
they already love. All right,
and not

2384
02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:51,389
Adam Curry: just flip at
Harvard, John at Harvard.

2385
02:16:51,629 --> 02:16:58,649
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
where it belongs. Wow. Actually,

2386
02:16:58,649 --> 02:17:01,979
you're better songs which are
few and far between. She didn't

2387
02:17:01,979 --> 02:17:08,399
even write but okay. I have a
while fraud story from NTD. That

2388
02:17:08,399 --> 02:17:10,349
is worth playing. Okay, let's

2389
02:17:10,350 --> 02:17:11,430
Adam Curry: do it. A new poll

2390
02:17:11,430 --> 02:17:14,730
Unknown: shows one in five male
and voters committed some kind

2391
02:17:14,730 --> 02:17:18,090
of election fraud in 2020.
Former President Trump is now

2392
02:17:18,090 --> 02:17:21,630
commenting suggesting this backs
up his years old claim of

2393
02:17:21,630 --> 02:17:25,080
widespread fraud and today's
area and past our spoke with the

2394
02:17:25,080 --> 02:17:26,280
pollster. A

2395
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:30,900
new Heartland Rasmussen poll
found that 21% of male in voters

2396
02:17:30,900 --> 02:17:34,500
admitted to filling out a ballot
for somebody else in the 2020

2397
02:17:34,500 --> 02:17:38,280
presidential election. 10% of
all respondents said they know

2398
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:41,820
somebody who admitted to casting
a mail in ballot fraudulently,

2399
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:45,540
and 8% of likely voters said
they've been offered the pay or

2400
02:17:45,540 --> 02:17:49,470
something else for voting. Now
almost half of all 2020 votes

2401
02:17:49,500 --> 02:17:53,400
were cast by mail the most ever
in US history. Consider

2402
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:55,440
how close the 2020 election was.

2403
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:58,320
This is extremely troubling. Jim
Lakely

2404
02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:01,050
is the vice president of the
Heartland Institute, which

2405
02:18:01,050 --> 02:18:05,640
conducted the poll. He said they
expected that maybe 5% of Malin

2406
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:08,970
voters would admit to some kind
of voter fraud, and that they

2407
02:18:08,970 --> 02:18:12,810
were shocked when they saw the
number was over 20% Former

2408
02:18:12,810 --> 02:18:15,930
President Trump took to social
media commenting on the poll,

2409
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:18,810
writing this is the biggest
story of the year, and

2410
02:18:18,810 --> 02:18:22,500
Republicans must do something
about it. Now lately told me

2411
02:18:22,500 --> 02:18:25,860
that some states did actually
have reasonable safety measures

2412
02:18:25,860 --> 02:18:29,070
in place when it comes to mail
in voting, but that those were

2413
02:18:29,070 --> 02:18:32,430
abandoned during the COVID
pandemic. He also says that

2414
02:18:32,430 --> 02:18:35,550
people are now being discouraged
from talking about potential

2415
02:18:35,550 --> 02:18:39,030
voter fraud in the 2020
election, but that Americans,

2416
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:41,640
including Democrats have
routinely questioned the

2417
02:18:41,640 --> 02:18:44,850
election results in the past,
for example, when George Bush

2418
02:18:44,850 --> 02:18:47,970
won against John Kerry, or
Trump's 2016 win,

2419
02:18:48,329 --> 02:18:52,139
yet suddenly in 2020, when
everybody can see with their own

2420
02:18:52,139 --> 02:18:55,229
eyes, that our election system
has been thrown into complete

2421
02:18:55,229 --> 02:18:59,429
chaos. That is the only election
in which it is not proper to

2422
02:18:59,429 --> 02:19:02,279
question whether the regional
results are legitimate. There

2423
02:19:02,279 --> 02:19:06,329
was no suppressing of those
sorts of ideas and thoughts for

2424
02:19:06,329 --> 02:19:07,919
every other presidential
election

2425
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:09,690
since the year 2000.

2426
02:19:10,500 --> 02:19:12,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, isn't it
interesting that all we can talk

2427
02:19:12,210 --> 02:19:14,610
about is Alex Jones back on x.

2428
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:17,669
John C Dvorak: When Nobody's
talking about this story? No, of

2429
02:19:17,670 --> 02:19:20,430
Adam Curry: course not. That's
no, that's my point. Where's

2430
02:19:20,430 --> 02:19:23,190
Megyn? Kelly on the story?
Where's Tucker on this story?

2431
02:19:24,540 --> 02:19:26,190
Where are these people on the
story? No.

2432
02:19:26,220 --> 02:19:27,720
John C Dvorak: Where do I get it
from?

2433
02:19:28,139 --> 02:19:30,119
Unknown: In TNT if

2434
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:31,500
John C Dvorak: nobody listens to
them?

2435
02:19:32,790 --> 02:19:35,100
Adam Curry: Indeed, yes.

2436
02:19:35,880 --> 02:19:38,220
John C Dvorak: I just found this
to be like a wow story. And it

2437
02:19:38,220 --> 02:19:42,420
was like what this is the most
impressed story, because it does

2438
02:19:42,420 --> 02:19:45,090
bring into question. I mean,
this whole mail in balloting, we

2439
02:19:45,090 --> 02:19:48,330
know and has been reports has
been studies and Advancers I

2440
02:19:48,330 --> 02:19:51,420
think goes way back into the 70s
that it was always considered a

2441
02:19:51,420 --> 02:19:54,930
very bad idea because it was so
easily corruptible. Here. They

2442
02:19:54,930 --> 02:19:59,310
come up with some some survey
shows it was corrupted. Nobody

2443
02:19:59,310 --> 02:20:02,970
wants to hear about it. Well
forget it. And Trump, by the

2444
02:20:02,970 --> 02:20:05,370
way, saying, Oh, the Republicans
should do something about it is

2445
02:20:05,370 --> 02:20:06,600
a real laugh for

2446
02:20:08,250 --> 02:20:12,450
Adam Curry: him. But no, but the
point is, both Republicans and

2447
02:20:12,450 --> 02:20:17,850
Democrats employ these tactics.
They both they both they have to

2448
02:20:17,880 --> 02:20:20,730
this is going this coming
election is going to be who's

2449
02:20:20,730 --> 02:20:24,960
going to cheat the best. It's
obvious. That's why there's

2450
02:20:24,960 --> 02:20:28,320
there's no torque wash. We've
been doing this in Florida for a

2451
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:33,180
long time. We don't want anyone
to learn how we do it. Like

2452
02:20:33,180 --> 02:20:34,980
John C Dvorak: California is
worse than Florida. There's no

2453
02:20:34,980 --> 02:20:36,540
question in my mind about that.

2454
02:20:36,870 --> 02:20:39,570
Adam Curry: By the way, this,
this product is special

2455
02:20:39,570 --> 02:20:45,570
prosecutor Jack Smith. Who's the
guy who's going after Trump?

2456
02:20:45,960 --> 02:20:46,290
John C Dvorak: Yeah,

2457
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:49,200
Adam Curry: it'd be his love
looking gun. Yeah. Well, his

2458
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:52,230
background is starting to come
up a little bit. And the

2459
02:20:52,380 --> 02:20:56,490
allegation is that while he was
at the International Criminal

2460
02:20:56,490 --> 02:21:03,120
Court, he was part of like big
campaigns with 10s if not

2461
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:09,510
hundreds of millions of euros
slash dollars. With bribery

2462
02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:12,480
money, Hey, you want me to not
prosecute, prosecute you better?

2463
02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:16,110
You better send me $10 million
in Bitcoin. I love the Bitcoin

2464
02:21:16,110 --> 02:21:22,260
part. There's a whistleblower
John Moynihan. He filed a

2465
02:21:22,260 --> 02:21:24,690
complaint with the Department of
Justice inspector general's

2466
02:21:24,690 --> 02:21:28,560
office on November 28, alleging
Jack Smith, special prosecutor

2467
02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:31,200
pursuing Donald Trump was
engaged in extortion. That's the

2468
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:34,410
word extortion scheme while he
was working at the International

2469
02:21:34,530 --> 02:21:35,790
Court of Justice

2470
02:21:38,910 --> 02:21:42,150
John C Dvorak: was another story
I haven't seen on CBS. That's a

2471
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:45,510
good story. I'd like to get
destroyed. This was floating

2472
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:48,180
around even though I got it from
him. Yeah, I think this is it.

2473
02:21:48,180 --> 02:21:53,310
This is the Trump twist on the
Trump case. Turning

2474
02:21:53,310 --> 02:21:55,800
Unknown: now to some court
actions former President Trump

2475
02:21:55,800 --> 02:21:59,160
catches a break US District
Judge Tanya Chutkan. Today

2476
02:21:59,190 --> 02:22:03,300
halted all proceedings in his
federal election case. Trump is

2477
02:22:03,300 --> 02:22:05,820
appealing to have the case
dismissed on grounds of

2478
02:22:05,820 --> 02:22:09,240
presidential immunity, that
decision could potentially lead

2479
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:13,260
to a significant delay in all
future proceedings. But Judge

2480
02:22:13,290 --> 02:22:16,860
Chutkan said that it doesn't
necessarily cancel the pre trial

2481
02:22:16,860 --> 02:22:20,580
deadlines. As of now,
prosecutors are urging Chutkan

2482
02:22:20,580 --> 02:22:25,110
to stay on track and keep the
march 4 trial date in place to

2483
02:22:25,110 --> 02:22:28,410
speed things up. Special Counsel
Jack Smith is hoping to skip the

2484
02:22:28,410 --> 02:22:31,800
appeals court and instead let
the Supreme Court hear the case.

2485
02:22:32,340 --> 02:22:36,060
Despite the temporary pause
Chutkan noted that the gag order

2486
02:22:36,090 --> 02:22:38,580
is still in effect. Yeah,

2487
02:22:38,580 --> 02:22:41,790
Adam Curry: this is this is in
the news. This? I have seen

2488
02:22:41,790 --> 02:22:42,210
this.

2489
02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:46,710
John C Dvorak: So yeah, it's
hard to understand what's

2490
02:22:46,740 --> 02:22:48,810
actually going on? Well,

2491
02:22:48,810 --> 02:22:51,660
Adam Curry: it seems like the
Supreme Court will have some say

2492
02:22:51,660 --> 02:22:55,770
over this. And I think the point
is that the dates that Jack

2493
02:22:55,770 --> 02:22:59,730
Smith wants in March, you know,
to start all this to make sure

2494
02:22:59,730 --> 02:23:03,120
they put them behind bars before
the election. That seems like

2495
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:08,190
those dates are in parallel now.
And and so I guess the Supreme

2496
02:23:08,190 --> 02:23:11,100
Court can just delay and delay
and delay. Well, the

2497
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:14,340
John C Dvorak: Supreme Court
from their recent track record

2498
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:16,860
isn't going to even take this
thing. There's no evidence that

2499
02:23:16,860 --> 02:23:20,700
they will. I mean, if did way
I've been watching the Supreme

2500
02:23:20,700 --> 02:23:23,700
Court, they would go it would go
like this. Why didn't this go to

2501
02:23:23,700 --> 02:23:25,740
an appeals court before it got
to us?

2502
02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:29,400
Adam Curry: I'm not the expert,
but we have an expert. And he

2503
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:34,860
can rob can probably tell us our
Supreme Court attorney.

2504
02:23:35,880 --> 02:23:37,770
John C Dvorak: Yes, he will.
Maybe he will. Maybe we'll get a

2505
02:23:37,770 --> 02:23:38,520
note from him.

2506
02:23:38,550 --> 02:23:42,240
Adam Curry: I hope so. Before we
take a break, I think because

2507
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:44,640
we're we're running we're
running long here. I think we

2508
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:48,210
should talk about Ukraine and
Zelinsky coming in and and

2509
02:23:48,210 --> 02:23:54,060
trying to try to get some money.
He was he was literally hanging

2510
02:23:54,060 --> 02:23:58,440
out with defense contractors.
There's pictures of for the

2511
02:23:58,440 --> 02:24:03,180
Boeing guys the Raytheon guys,
he's he's just doing sales for

2512
02:24:03,180 --> 02:24:08,280
them. They're like, Hey, Blood,
good work. Come on, man. Get

2513
02:24:08,280 --> 02:24:09,900
some credit, get some credit.

2514
02:24:10,380 --> 02:24:12,510
John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
with this Ukraine hang up

2515
02:24:12,510 --> 02:24:15,180
Democracy Now. Clip as you have
this takes us anywhere.

2516
02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:18,150
Unknown: Ukrainian president
Volodymyr Zelensky ended his

2517
02:24:18,150 --> 02:24:22,440
high stakes day in Washington,
DC Tuesday, with little progress

2518
02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:26,250
and securing additional war
funding. President Biden vowed

2519
02:24:26,250 --> 02:24:29,430
the US would support Ukraine
quote as long as we can,

2520
02:24:29,460 --> 02:24:33,090
unquote, and urged Congress to
pass a spending request of over

2521
02:24:33,090 --> 02:24:36,750
$100 billion, which also
includes funding for Israel,

2522
02:24:36,750 --> 02:24:41,040
Taiwan, and further
militarization of the US border.

2523
02:24:41,970 --> 02:24:44,310
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that's just
gonna keep going, though.

2524
02:24:44,310 --> 02:24:47,850
John C Dvorak: This is Amy. What
is she talking about further

2525
02:24:47,880 --> 02:24:52,800
further militarization of our
border. That's what does that

2526
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:57,030
mean? She's borders wide open.
There's no militarization of the

2527
02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:57,510
border.

2528
02:24:58,050 --> 02:25:00,630
Adam Curry: Amy, come on, this
is what she does. We love Amy

2529
02:25:00,630 --> 02:25:03,870
for that we love we love her
little quips she's beautiful.

2530
02:25:03,870 --> 02:25:07,950
She she should be a professor at
Harvard. She be perfect.

2531
02:25:07,950 --> 02:25:10,260
Actually, she'd be she shouldn't
be an honorary John.

2532
02:25:10,290 --> 02:25:12,120
John C Dvorak: Actually, I'm
surprised she's not.

2533
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:14,310
Adam Curry: I have a little
different take on it. I've only

2534
02:25:14,310 --> 02:25:19,710
two clips. Because Vladimir
Putin, President of Russia,

2535
02:25:19,890 --> 02:25:23,790
running for his fifth term. He
did his big show the big show

2536
02:25:23,790 --> 02:25:28,110
again. It was He cancelled it
last year. This is the TV show

2537
02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:33,420
where he goes live for hours and
hours and hours. And just any

2538
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:36,570
he's joking around. He's
answering questions. He's got a

2539
02:25:36,570 --> 02:25:42,540
whole panel there. Yeah. Does
Trump owe many times over this?

2540
02:25:42,570 --> 02:25:45,570
It's a great show. I mean, I
don't understand Russian of

2541
02:25:45,570 --> 02:25:51,120
course, but luckily, we have
douchebag Doug from France 24.

2542
02:25:51,330 --> 02:25:54,930
And he's going to give us a
little quick overview, and then

2543
02:25:54,930 --> 02:25:57,450
we'll get the Dortch Avella
version. But But I love

2544
02:25:57,450 --> 02:26:01,890
douchebag dog because he tries
to do sarcasm at this very

2545
02:26:01,890 --> 02:26:05,100
dangerous when you do sarcasm
because people take that

2546
02:26:05,100 --> 02:26:07,650
seriously. If you're I don't
know not funny.

2547
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:09,570
Unknown: Yeah, his position
hasn't changed at all. If

2548
02:26:09,570 --> 02:26:12,360
anything after being canceled
last year. This has been his

2549
02:26:12,360 --> 02:26:15,870
first annual marathon press
conference since the Russian

2550
02:26:15,870 --> 02:26:18,330
invasion of Ukraine. If
anything, he has a lot of stress

2551
02:26:18,360 --> 02:26:20,880
in his steps this year. Why?
Because it comes at a crucial

2552
02:26:20,880 --> 02:26:24,540
moment. It comes at a moment
where Western support Western

2553
02:26:24,540 --> 02:26:28,620
military aid for Ukraine appears
to be dwindling as Republicans,

2554
02:26:28,620 --> 02:26:31,650
especially in the United States
Congress block a new aid

2555
02:26:31,650 --> 02:26:35,280
package. This impotence do
validates what he's been saying

2556
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:38,070
all along that the West is
basically doesn't have the

2557
02:26:38,070 --> 02:26:41,100
staying power, that it's weak
and DEC decadent and ultimately

2558
02:26:41,220 --> 02:26:45,540
that Putin and his forces his
army will outlast the Western so

2559
02:26:45,540 --> 02:26:48,750
called resolve the as long as it
takes resolved, standing

2560
02:26:48,750 --> 02:26:51,060
shoulder to shoulder with
Ukraine. He's reiterated that

2561
02:26:51,060 --> 02:26:53,070
and his objectives when I say
nothing's changed in his

2562
02:26:53,070 --> 02:26:55,950
position, yes, it was canceled
last year. This press

2563
02:26:55,950 --> 02:26:58,530
conference, right. This was the
first time after one year

2564
02:26:58,530 --> 02:27:01,290
hiatus. It was being held again.
But what he said is our

2565
02:27:01,290 --> 02:27:04,470
objectives there won't be peace
until we achieve our objectives.

2566
02:27:04,500 --> 02:27:07,260
What are those objectives? They
were very he was very clear. In

2567
02:27:07,260 --> 02:27:10,470
regards to Ukraine, its
detoxification going back to

2568
02:27:10,470 --> 02:27:13,920
what has become the staple of
the false Kremlin narrative that

2569
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:17,130
somehow they're neo Nazi Hunter
running Ukraine. So d not

2570
02:27:17,130 --> 02:27:19,920
suffocation, a word that we
hadn't heard as much lately, but

2571
02:27:19,950 --> 02:27:23,550
he's rehashed it this year, in
full in full force at this press

2572
02:27:23,550 --> 02:27:26,520
conference, de militarization of
Ukraine. Remember, it's not

2573
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:29,100
Russia that's been the aggressor
here and attacked Ukraine and

2574
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:32,130
invaded Ukraine. No, no, no.
It's the EU. It's Ukraine in the

2575
02:27:32,130 --> 02:27:36,090
West. We at the US and NATO's
behest, that invaded that

2576
02:27:36,090 --> 02:27:40,050
basically attacked Russia and
also returning Ukraine to

2577
02:27:40,050 --> 02:27:43,620
neutral status. He is unbending
unbowed. He says he's always

2578
02:27:43,620 --> 02:27:47,220
open for talks, but he's only
going to talk if when the with

2579
02:27:47,220 --> 02:27:49,500
the West is also willing to play
ball and talk.

2580
02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:53,010
Adam Curry: I mean, he makes it
sound like you like Ukraine

2581
02:27:53,010 --> 02:27:59,490
attack Russia. This guy is no
good. Doug needs a new gig. So

2582
02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:03,030
he pontificates about what Putin
saying Deutsche Avella. They

2583
02:28:03,030 --> 02:28:05,880
took it a lot more straight and
is a little more nuanced.

2584
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:06,360
Vladimir

2585
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:08,820
Unknown: Putin has said Russia
has goals in Ukraine remain

2586
02:28:08,850 --> 02:28:12,990
unchanged as he holds his end of
your press conference. In

2587
02:28:13,020 --> 02:28:16,710
Moscow, the Russian president is
taking questions from the public

2588
02:28:16,740 --> 02:28:20,640
and journalists in an event that
has been broadcast live on

2589
02:28:20,640 --> 02:28:24,480
Russian state television, and is
expected to last for hours and

2590
02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:27,210
they should put in who is
running for re election in March

2591
02:28:27,240 --> 02:28:31,500
canceled at last year's show.
And Russia's full scale invasion

2592
02:28:31,950 --> 02:28:37,620
of Ukraine. What is even worse,
we'll be analyzing what the

2593
02:28:37,620 --> 02:28:40,560
Russian president has said so
far in just a moment. But first,

2594
02:28:40,770 --> 02:28:43,830
let's have a listen to some of
what he's had to say.

2595
02:28:43,860 --> 02:28:46,350
Adam Curry: So this isn't so now
they're going live and they're

2596
02:28:46,350 --> 02:28:50,970
translating in live in real
time, the true translation of

2597
02:28:50,970 --> 02:28:54,780
what Putin said and you just
heard Doug pontificate on, he

2598
02:28:55,350 --> 02:28:56,070
could have been with this,

2599
02:28:56,340 --> 02:28:59,430
Unknown: there will be peace
when we achieve our goals. Now,

2600
02:28:59,460 --> 02:29:04,200
let's get back to these goals.
Well, they don't change. Remind

2601
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:07,290
you of what we talked about
today about the suffocation,

2602
02:29:08,130 --> 02:29:12,150
about MIDI militarization,
neutral status and Windigo ideas

2603
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:15,660
and with it, we will agree on
demilitarization agree on

2604
02:29:15,660 --> 02:29:19,500
certain parameters. During the
negotiations in Istanbul, we

2605
02:29:19,500 --> 02:29:22,410
agreed on it and they simply
through these agreements into

2606
02:29:22,410 --> 02:29:27,270
the oven. Other possibilities to
reach an agreement or to resolve

2607
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:29,940
it by force is what we strive
for.

2608
02:29:30,690 --> 02:29:35,190
Adam Curry: Sounds a lot more
nuanced. Yeah. Yeah. And

2609
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:38,040
demilitarized. You know what
that means? A demilitarized

2610
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:38,820
zone?

2611
02:29:39,450 --> 02:29:41,730
John C Dvorak: It will French 24
doesn't like Putin at all and

2612
02:29:42,180 --> 02:29:45,720
we're getting Deutsche Avella
which we think is agent of the

2613
02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:49,440
CIA is probably part of the
system to try to stop this

2614
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:49,770
thing.

2615
02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:53,580
Adam Curry: It has to stop again
bad product war is not a good

2616
02:29:53,580 --> 02:29:54,090
product.

2617
02:29:56,610 --> 02:29:58,380
John C Dvorak: And then there
are defense guys got their

2618
02:29:58,380 --> 02:30:01,710
Adam Curry: money. Now they want
more More than yeah well they

2619
02:30:01,710 --> 02:30:06,540
can always want more like always
getting there $886 billion worth

2620
02:30:06,540 --> 02:30:09,510
what a scam how your potholes

2621
02:30:12,780 --> 02:30:14,460
John C Dvorak: still there a lot
of them well they patch them

2622
02:30:14,460 --> 02:30:16,770
once in a while but I can still
find places where there's just

2623
02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:18,450
tons of them. With

2624
02:30:18,450 --> 02:30:20,040
Adam Curry: that I'd like to
thank you for your courage in

2625
02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:22,440
the morning to you the man who
put the seeds in the Chinese

2626
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:25,050
cyber actors ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend

2627
02:30:25,050 --> 02:30:28,290
on the other end there John Cena

2628
02:30:30,990 --> 02:30:32,670
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. Adam curry in the

2629
02:30:32,670 --> 02:30:35,340
morning chips to see boots on
the ground feet near subs in the

2630
02:30:35,340 --> 02:30:38,460
water. games nights out there
man

2631
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:47,850
Adam Curry: nope, nope, not we
have. What did? Oh, goodness.

2632
02:30:48,270 --> 02:30:49,950
1658.

2633
02:30:50,400 --> 02:30:51,030
John C Dvorak: Down.

2634
02:30:51,090 --> 02:30:53,190
Adam Curry: We're down. We're
dying here. We're dying on the

2635
02:30:53,190 --> 02:30:53,760
vine.

2636
02:30:53,970 --> 02:30:56,790
John C Dvorak: That should be
1800 on Thursday. Well, it's

2637
02:30:56,790 --> 02:31:00,690
Adam Curry: not 200 drove we
drove away. It was the Taylor

2638
02:31:00,690 --> 02:31:02,370
Swift clip. I'm sure of it.

2639
02:31:02,670 --> 02:31:03,600
John C Dvorak: I would have done
it.

2640
02:31:03,630 --> 02:31:06,870
Adam Curry: I apologize. I
didn't mean to do it. They

2641
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:09,780
trolls Good to have you here you
can become one as well. Go to

2642
02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:13,650
troll room.io You can listen
live no agenda streams was

2643
02:31:13,650 --> 02:31:14,580
playing there. Yes.

2644
02:31:14,700 --> 02:31:17,550
John C Dvorak: Hey, I didn't
hear it today. I didn't hear the

2645
02:31:17,700 --> 02:31:22,410
pre show. But I understand that.
Darren went nuts over Taylor

2646
02:31:22,410 --> 02:31:25,320
Swift. He just did a whole show.
He

2647
02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:28,620
Adam Curry: did a he did a
Taylor Swift Def Leppard mix.

2648
02:31:30,900 --> 02:31:36,210
Yeah, he's right. He's right. I
know. I don't know what I don't

2649
02:31:36,210 --> 02:31:38,280
know what's wrong with him?
Well, I do but I don't know

2650
02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:44,700
what's gotten into. We all know
what's wrong with there. And

2651
02:31:44,700 --> 02:31:47,160
that is what you can listen to
before we start live. We do the

2652
02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:49,500
show live on Thursdays and
Sundays. You can listen to the

2653
02:31:49,500 --> 02:31:53,070
Rock and Roll pre show before
that. That is the illustrious

2654
02:31:53,070 --> 02:31:56,550
Darren O'Neill, who by the way
was talking about all that stuff

2655
02:31:56,550 --> 02:32:01,350
on Tuesday. He was talking about
the about the mailing ballots he

2656
02:32:01,350 --> 02:32:05,850
broke that news. He has a show
with Sir Jean and they must

2657
02:32:05,850 --> 02:32:08,790
John C Dvorak: say hell biggest
50 listeners are all the way up

2658
02:32:08,790 --> 02:32:13,170
on now. More than don't kidding
I kid

2659
02:32:14,730 --> 02:32:17,070
Adam Curry: you know he's he
plays all this stuff. And he

2660
02:32:17,070 --> 02:32:19,770
makes fun of you throughout the
whole show. Now, you've become

2661
02:32:19,770 --> 02:32:20,550
the show layman.

2662
02:32:20,670 --> 02:32:23,460
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't if I
was him. I do the same thing. To

2663
02:32:23,460 --> 02:32:24,660
defensive major.

2664
02:32:25,380 --> 02:32:28,020
Adam Curry: We also recommend
that you get a modern podcast

2665
02:32:28,020 --> 02:32:33,960
app. Man, this if you're looking
for something that's great on on

2666
02:32:33,960 --> 02:32:37,980
your iPhone, I'm sorry to hear
that you have an iPhone cast

2667
02:32:37,980 --> 02:32:41,790
thematic. If you're looking for
a great the experience on the

2668
02:32:41,790 --> 02:32:46,500
web pod fans. There's I'm liking
podcast guru, right and right

2669
02:32:46,500 --> 02:32:49,440
now, fountain is completely
refactored, they finally

2670
02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:52,170
released version one. I mean,
there's a lot of activity going

2671
02:32:52,170 --> 02:32:55,200
on the best thing about these
apps, besides the fact that you

2672
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:59,730
get notified when we go live,
you get notified within 90

2673
02:32:59,730 --> 02:33:03,030
seconds of us updating the show,
you can't get that with any

2674
02:33:03,030 --> 02:33:08,400
other old legacy app, you want
to have the new stuff. And if

2675
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:12,240
anyone ever gets the platform
thrown off of Apple or any other

2676
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:15,480
of those big platforms, you'll
still will be uninterrupted

2677
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:20,430
entertainment for you. Thanks to
the modern podcast apps. Yeah,

2678
02:33:20,490 --> 02:33:21,420
that's good stuff.

2679
02:33:22,140 --> 02:33:24,510
John C Dvorak: It is. I want to
make a can I make an

2680
02:33:24,510 --> 02:33:26,640
announcement before we get too
far into this and people started

2681
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:27,060
hanging up?

2682
02:33:27,090 --> 02:33:28,830
Adam Curry: Well, is it about
eggs?

2683
02:33:29,910 --> 02:33:36,540
John C Dvorak: No, it's about
process. I want to remind people

2684
02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:39,570
if they if they ordered their
PhD, they should go to the no

2685
02:33:39,570 --> 02:33:45,360
agenda rings.com site and send
us an address to mail them to

2686
02:33:46,290 --> 02:33:48,540
which apparently a lot of people
have figured well, didn't you

2687
02:33:48,540 --> 02:33:51,360
get it from PayPal? Or? I don't
know. I didn't know that. Oh,

2688
02:33:51,360 --> 02:33:53,670
really? Do we have that issue?

2689
02:33:53,700 --> 02:33:56,610
Adam Curry: Do you know it's I'm
pretty sure every single

2690
02:33:56,640 --> 02:34:02,010
knighting and naming ceremony I
specifically say enter the

2691
02:34:02,010 --> 02:34:04,920
address where you want us to
send the ring and your wax and

2692
02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:07,380
your certificate? I'm pretty
sure I say that.

2693
02:34:08,070 --> 02:34:10,740
John C Dvorak: You do and every
single show we always tell that

2694
02:34:10,740 --> 02:34:13,950
people that know something but
we are a little lacs on telling

2695
02:34:13,950 --> 02:34:18,900
people to send their notes to
notes. At no agenda show.net

2696
02:34:18,930 --> 02:34:20,280
Instead of Gu

2697
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:23,610
Adam Curry: that'll, that'll
never get fixed. That'll never

2698
02:34:23,610 --> 02:34:24,240
get fixed

2699
02:34:24,270 --> 02:34:26,340
John C Dvorak: to they send one
to you and send one to me and

2700
02:34:26,340 --> 02:34:30,180
they send it you know, so I send
it to Jay and use DJ and has to

2701
02:34:30,180 --> 02:34:31,050
sort these out.

2702
02:34:31,080 --> 02:34:35,100
Adam Curry: I know. Oh, she is
finally starting. There you go.

2703
02:34:35,130 --> 02:34:37,170
She's starting to complain. She

2704
02:34:37,170 --> 02:34:39,540
John C Dvorak: didn't. She
mentioned it wasn't complaining.

2705
02:34:40,200 --> 02:34:40,740
She's got

2706
02:34:40,740 --> 02:34:43,230
Adam Curry: the COVID we're
breaking her we're breaking J

2707
02:34:43,260 --> 02:34:43,710
Well, we

2708
02:34:43,710 --> 02:34:46,770
John C Dvorak: can keep going.
We'll get her as she's sick as

2709
02:34:46,770 --> 02:34:49,080
sucks. As she gets it flu. I

2710
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:52,800
Adam Curry: think we're almost
over we took the ivermectin we

2711
02:34:52,800 --> 02:34:58,380
took quesiton D three. Yeah. And
it Tina got

2712
02:34:58,380 --> 02:34:59,970
John C Dvorak: Lindsay Do you
ever figure out what you have?

2713
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:00,360
It wasn't

2714
02:35:01,469 --> 02:35:04,109
Adam Curry: I don't know I'm not
gonna test I'm not a moron. You

2715
02:35:04,110 --> 02:35:05,850
John C Dvorak: know to test you
can tell these things are all

2716
02:35:05,850 --> 02:35:08,790
slightly different. You sure you
should know your body enough to

2717
02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:10,710
say, Oh, I'm getting catching
the flu? Well,

2718
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:14,190
Adam Curry: I know exactly what
I had. But if you want to know,

2719
02:35:14,820 --> 02:35:16,770
dude, I had the wave this

2720
02:35:16,770 --> 02:35:18,450
Unknown: morning hearing from
several

2721
02:35:18,450 --> 02:35:21,390
health experts about a potential
COVID 19 surge at the end of

2722
02:35:21,390 --> 02:35:21,840
this month.

2723
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:24,870
That's right. The latest model
show a wave is coming. But ABC

2724
02:35:24,870 --> 02:35:25,950
Action wave

2725
02:35:25,950 --> 02:35:30,270
Adam Curry: is coming. It's j n
dot one baby. Don't you know the

2726
02:35:30,270 --> 02:35:35,760
wave is coming? The wave the
wave j n one the wave the best

2727
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:37,950
hot his rock station?

2728
02:35:38,760 --> 02:35:44,730
John C Dvorak: That's what I'm
saying one way. One on your

2729
02:35:44,730 --> 02:35:45,300
dial.

2730
02:35:45,870 --> 02:35:51,510
Adam Curry: Dan one. Yeah,
exactly. Exactly. Yeah, people

2731
02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:56,310
helped Jay out. And by the way,
you know, it'll never be linked

2732
02:35:56,310 --> 02:36:01,410
from divorce.org/na. But no
agenda donations.com It has all

2733
02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:04,470
that information there. And I
say this, I say I give this

2734
02:36:04,470 --> 02:36:06,930
address as well. All right,
yeah, you can't change people's

2735
02:36:06,930 --> 02:36:12,660
behavior. We can try. But if you
want your rings, then you get it

2736
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:13,320
much faster

2737
02:36:13,320 --> 02:36:15,450
John C Dvorak: diplomas, too, we
gotta get we gotta get the rest

2738
02:36:15,450 --> 02:36:20,400
of them out Ross ship. If the
6075 Oh,

2739
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:23,850
Adam Curry: through process
people. Process closing process,

2740
02:36:23,850 --> 02:36:23,970
I

2741
02:36:23,970 --> 02:36:26,040
John C Dvorak: wanted to make a
complaint about process. And so

2742
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:26,670
there you have it.

2743
02:36:27,570 --> 02:36:32,130
Adam Curry: And you should sign
it the management. All caps, all

2744
02:36:32,130 --> 02:36:40,320
caps. Value for value is the
entire system here, which is now

2745
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:42,630
being used everywhere around the
internet, people are catching on

2746
02:36:42,630 --> 02:36:46,560
to the idea. Of course, we knew
this 16 years ago, this is the

2747
02:36:46,560 --> 02:36:47,970
only model for the future.

2748
02:36:48,450 --> 02:36:51,750
John C Dvorak: They will it's a
it's a safe model, because you

2749
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:57,900
can't get D platformed. Right.
You can't get somebody put some

2750
02:36:57,930 --> 02:37:01,560
one lunatic. pressuring your
advertisers is all it takes to

2751
02:37:01,560 --> 02:37:03,900
get them all care where we
shouldn't advertise with them.

2752
02:37:03,930 --> 02:37:06,840
Now, it only takes one lunatic.
Yep,

2753
02:37:07,500 --> 02:37:10,680
Adam Curry: that's right. And
one loud lunatic and I think we

2754
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:11,220
have a few.

2755
02:37:12,690 --> 02:37:15,840
John C Dvorak: We have more than
a few loud lunatics. Again, some

2756
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:20,430
nasty notes recently. We'd have
when you were going to read

2757
02:37:20,730 --> 02:37:22,530
Adam Curry: this coming up
what's coming up in a minute.

2758
02:37:22,530 --> 02:37:28,320
It's a doozy. It's a real it's a
real doozy. So the concept is

2759
02:37:28,320 --> 02:37:32,430
time, talent or treasure. We
give you all the value we have.

2760
02:37:32,460 --> 02:37:35,310
And we've been we really try
hard. I mean, we work all week

2761
02:37:35,310 --> 02:37:40,770
at this stuff. We do during
holidays. Vacations, we take

2762
02:37:40,770 --> 02:37:45,330
probably about two shows a year
off. And total was was I think

2763
02:37:45,330 --> 02:37:48,210
it was one more this year
because of some surgical stuff I

2764
02:37:48,210 --> 02:37:53,730
was going through. I really
really couldn't talk. Otherwise,

2765
02:37:54,210 --> 02:38:02,760
chop an arm off and I'll still
show up that's a shutout but

2766
02:38:02,760 --> 02:38:04,650
there's a lot of things that
people can do and you can

2767
02:38:04,650 --> 02:38:07,650
contribute because we don't
consider your listeners or fans

2768
02:38:07,650 --> 02:38:11,790
or the audience. No, you are
producers of the no agenda show.

2769
02:38:11,940 --> 02:38:15,690
We do it all together. You are
no agenda nation. There's a lot

2770
02:38:15,690 --> 02:38:19,230
of things you do on your own
motivation. See the meetups, but

2771
02:38:19,230 --> 02:38:22,080
you know, meetup site,
everything. Everything has been

2772
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:26,970
done by you guys. I mean, even
the concept like douchebag de

2773
02:38:26,970 --> 02:38:30,210
douching karma, none of that.
We're not that creative. We

2774
02:38:30,210 --> 02:38:32,940
didn't dream that we're not
creative. We don't have any

2775
02:38:32,940 --> 02:38:35,790
meeting like hey, let's go over
some creative No, you guys do

2776
02:38:35,790 --> 02:38:39,660
it. We Oh, that's creative.
Yeah, a lot of the clips, a lot

2777
02:38:39,660 --> 02:38:42,630
of the great finds a lot of
fantastic things. It is all you

2778
02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:47,610
and it is really appreciated.
Now, some people have more

2779
02:38:47,610 --> 02:38:50,430
talent than others. Some have
more time than others. Some have

2780
02:38:50,430 --> 02:38:54,780
more treasure. The artists have
talent. And we want to thank the

2781
02:38:54,780 --> 02:39:00,420
clip custodian, Neil Jones for
the artwork for Episode 1615,

2782
02:39:00,420 --> 02:39:05,220
titled day one dictator. And of
course, we believe this was

2783
02:39:05,250 --> 02:39:09,630
complete AI but it was it was a
nice depiction of the Milgram

2784
02:39:09,630 --> 02:39:13,770
experiment. I love it when we
put these things on x. And we

2785
02:39:13,800 --> 02:39:16,650
you know, we send them out into
the ether and people go that

2786
02:39:16,650 --> 02:39:19,860
should be on a t shirt. I love
that that's how good this stuff

2787
02:39:19,860 --> 02:39:25,410
is. It is it is it. This was a
great piece. We love that a lot

2788
02:39:25,410 --> 02:39:28,740
the clip custodian. There's
another perfect example the clip

2789
02:39:28,740 --> 02:39:32,220
custodian. He sends me clips
every single show and his

2790
02:39:32,220 --> 02:39:37,080
brother, the clip collector. I
think he sends you clips. Steve,

2791
02:39:37,830 --> 02:39:40,170
John C Dvorak: does he not? Yes.
Steve says me a three by

2792
02:39:40,170 --> 02:39:42,510
Adam Curry: three by three.
Exactly. I mean, and you know,

2793
02:39:42,510 --> 02:39:46,500
and you know what's cool?
Sometimes then I'll send it

2794
02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:49,980
like, Hey, I got something else
to do. That's cool, too. That's

2795
02:39:49,980 --> 02:39:53,010
what makes it so beautiful. We
don't have contracts. There was

2796
02:39:53,010 --> 02:39:55,980
like, Hey, man, you're supposed
to deliver clips every single

2797
02:39:55,980 --> 02:40:02,670
show. Oh yeah. You're fired,
you're fired. You're no good.

2798
02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:05,190
John C Dvorak: That's actually
the only thing we miss, like

2799
02:40:05,190 --> 02:40:06,660
the, like

2800
02:40:06,660 --> 02:40:09,690
Adam Curry: the Art Generator,
you know. So sir Polka toured.

2801
02:40:09,690 --> 02:40:15,000
But the thing has been running
for over 12 years. 13 years. And

2802
02:40:15,390 --> 02:40:18,750
he actually now on no agenda art
generated.com. He has a preview

2803
02:40:18,750 --> 02:40:21,120
down at the bottom of what the
new generator will look like.

2804
02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:23,850
And he has a note for us at the
top. I see that. Yeah, he says

2805
02:40:23,850 --> 02:40:27,900
the legacy chapter artworks. Now
this is important because we

2806
02:40:28,140 --> 02:40:30,930
were using those, you know, this
would Dred Scott does another

2807
02:40:30,930 --> 02:40:35,010
great guy with time on his
hands, who does all the chapter

2808
02:40:35,010 --> 02:40:37,950
art that work in the modern
podcast apps? And I think also

2809
02:40:37,950 --> 02:40:41,700
on no agenda. show.net, he said
was almost able to deploy before

2810
02:40:41,700 --> 02:40:43,620
the start of the show and may
still be able to get deployed

2811
02:40:43,620 --> 02:40:46,500
before the end of show dealing
with some config issues in

2812
02:40:46,500 --> 02:40:54,540
production. I hate JavaScript
developers. Wow. So it'll be he

2813
02:40:54,540 --> 02:40:54,840
says,

2814
02:40:54,870 --> 02:40:56,520
John C Dvorak: everybody does
Dante.

2815
02:40:58,500 --> 02:41:02,160
Adam Curry: I die. I have no
opinion on that. And down at the

2816
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:04,500
bottom, it looks like it's gonna
be beautiful. And so we're

2817
02:41:04,500 --> 02:41:06,840
patient. We're cool. And he's in
everyone's chipped in,

2818
02:41:06,840 --> 02:41:09,180
everyone's figured it out.
They're posting a no agenda

2819
02:41:09,180 --> 02:41:12,510
social. He's linking it in. It's
a beautiful thing, man, we

2820
02:41:12,510 --> 02:41:15,450
appreciate it. Take your time,
brother. That's part of how it

2821
02:41:15,450 --> 02:41:20,550
works here. And don't pressure
him. No pressure him. So this is

2822
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:25,710
where it's Oh, of course, we
don't have the same level of, of

2823
02:41:25,710 --> 02:41:28,590
supply. Just because it's, you
know, it's it's a more

2824
02:41:28,590 --> 02:41:31,920
complicated process. I'm sure a
couple artists like well, you

2825
02:41:31,920 --> 02:41:34,710
know, I wait, you know, they'll
wait until it's back up. But

2826
02:41:34,710 --> 02:41:39,030
still people are doing it and
we're so thankful for that. So

2827
02:41:39,030 --> 02:41:42,330
thankful. So thank you to the
clip custodian. There were a

2828
02:41:42,330 --> 02:41:44,910
couple other pieces we
discussed. I liked the CIA

2829
02:41:44,910 --> 02:41:49,050
manual from Francisco
Scaramanga. And you can play

2830
02:41:49,050 --> 02:41:52,770
along at home if you want to
know genart. generator.com Yeah,

2831
02:41:52,770 --> 02:41:55,860
you didn't like that one. I
thought it was funny. To

2832
02:41:55,860 --> 02:41:58,290
John C Dvorak: strictly use you
couldn't see that he was can't

2833
02:41:58,290 --> 02:42:00,240
read that little thing in there
and little

2834
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:03,000
Adam Curry: read. Can't read it.
And you can read that just fine.

2835
02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:03,240
But

2836
02:42:03,870 --> 02:42:05,580
John C Dvorak: I'm going to use
that as the example of future

2837
02:42:05,580 --> 02:42:07,800
example when you bitch and moan
about it. You can't read it.

2838
02:42:08,730 --> 02:42:13,020
That is my new. I kind of like
to train Yeah, we did talk about

2839
02:42:13,020 --> 02:42:18,360
the train. Right. It was like it
was so AI that it was to AI.

2840
02:42:18,750 --> 02:42:22,020
Side. particularly funny. No,
no.

2841
02:42:23,250 --> 02:42:27,930
Adam Curry: Train comb your
hair, man. No, I mean, this was

2842
02:42:27,930 --> 02:42:29,070
it. This was the one I

2843
02:42:29,070 --> 02:42:31,860
John C Dvorak: think the robot
was also AI and then the globe

2844
02:42:31,860 --> 02:42:35,790
thing was AI. And then there was
a it was all I said, all these

2845
02:42:35,790 --> 02:42:39,600
pieces, except maybe one or two
of them. Which were the lamer

2846
02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:40,110
ones

2847
02:42:40,140 --> 02:42:42,870
Adam Curry: speaking, speaking
of AI, they want to hear this is

2848
02:42:42,870 --> 02:42:47,340
a fun thing. If someone taught
me this today, so if you go into

2849
02:42:47,340 --> 02:42:55,050
chat GPT and you say, I have I'm
typing this now three towels on

2850
02:42:55,080 --> 02:43:05,580
a clothes line, and it takes
three hours for them to dry. How

2851
02:43:05,580 --> 02:43:12,540
long will it take nine towels to
dry? I asked you what would the

2852
02:43:12,540 --> 02:43:13,140
answer be?

2853
02:43:14,010 --> 02:43:16,650
John C Dvorak: The real answer
should take about the same

2854
02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:17,370
amount of time.

2855
02:43:18,510 --> 02:43:21,030
Adam Curry: The drying time for
towel I'm reading this live the

2856
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:23,790
drying time for towels depends
on various factors including the

2857
02:43:23,790 --> 02:43:25,200
material of the towels dishes,
neither

2858
02:43:25,200 --> 02:43:27,360
John C Dvorak: typical of these
answers the air

2859
02:43:29,130 --> 02:43:31,170
Adam Curry: the air circulation.
However, if we assume that the

2860
02:43:31,170 --> 02:43:34,110
conditions remain constant, you
can make a simple assumption

2861
02:43:34,110 --> 02:43:37,080
that the drying time is directly
proportional to the number of

2862
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:40,200
tiles in this case, if it takes
three hours for three towels to

2863
02:43:40,200 --> 02:43:43,170
dry, you can estimate that it
would take nine towels three

2864
02:43:43,170 --> 02:43:46,410
times as long, assuming all
other factors remain constant.

2865
02:43:46,410 --> 02:43:48,720
Therefore it might take
approximately nine hours for

2866
02:43:48,720 --> 02:43:52,560
nine towels to dry under the
same conditions. Yeah, wrong.

2867
02:43:52,650 --> 02:43:55,920
Yeah. Keep in mind, this is a
rough estimation. And the actual

2868
02:43:55,950 --> 02:43:59,970
dries could vary based on
factors mentioned earlier. How

2869
02:43:59,970 --> 02:44:05,820
stupid is this? It can't do
math. I love I listen as well.

2870
02:44:06,090 --> 02:44:10,140
John C Dvorak: Is that really
math or logic? It's pretty

2871
02:44:10,140 --> 02:44:14,790
Adam Curry: basic. I mean,
you're saying you're excusing

2872
02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:15,510
this behavior?

2873
02:44:16,680 --> 02:44:18,960
John C Dvorak: This is this I
think AI is the best is from

2874
02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:21,810
Adam Curry: an $89 billion
company.

2875
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:25,560
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
that minor

2876
02:44:25,560 --> 02:44:29,580
Adam Curry: thing. minor thing.
So yeah, people Yeah, yeah, at

2877
02:44:29,580 --> 02:44:33,840
least we get funky art. Yay.
Good. Good for you. Because

2878
02:44:33,840 --> 02:44:36,120
John C Dvorak: these guys if you
if you know how to use these art

2879
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:40,560
generators, the AI ones and you
can fine tune it. You can

2880
02:44:40,620 --> 02:44:43,320
correct it. You know how to do
it. Yeah, you can produce some

2881
02:44:43,980 --> 02:44:46,800
because we've been picking
really good stuff. Yeah, that's

2882
02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:51,600
great. Totally. I mean, I yeah,
I we don't worry so much about

2883
02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:52,320
plagiarism.

2884
02:44:53,430 --> 02:44:56,670
Adam Curry: No, exact that's a
thing of the past. Yeah.

2885
02:44:57,360 --> 02:45:00,000
John C Dvorak: Why bother? Why
bother your plagiarize anymore?

2886
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:02,040
Are why bother to the US?
clipart?

2887
02:45:02,400 --> 02:45:05,820
Adam Curry: Exactly. Give up
those licenses. This

2888
02:45:05,820 --> 02:45:10,140
John C Dvorak: is really this is
a I think it's a on the on the

2889
02:45:10,830 --> 02:45:15,990
other clip side of the AI.
Praise is the fact that is this

2890
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:21,330
is I guess in the hands of real
good artists is maybe a benefit.

2891
02:45:21,330 --> 02:45:27,570
But I think overall it's a it's
a it's costing jobs. It's gonna

2892
02:45:27,570 --> 02:45:28,440
cost jobs,

2893
02:45:28,830 --> 02:45:34,650
Adam Curry: jobs, jobs, and
jobs. Some jobs. But you know,

2894
02:45:35,670 --> 02:45:40,080
we lost the buggy drivers to
replace them with cabbies, but

2895
02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:41,310
turbans in New York.

2896
02:45:41,790 --> 02:45:44,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they've got
to be replaced by self driving

2897
02:45:44,460 --> 02:45:46,200
vehicles except in San Francisco
with

2898
02:45:48,120 --> 02:45:52,950
Adam Curry: fire 900 People from
cruise. Cruise cruisers shutting

2899
02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:53,160
down.

2900
02:45:54,060 --> 02:45:54,720
John C Dvorak: They have to

2901
02:45:54,750 --> 02:45:59,940
Adam Curry: one guy they drag
one guy. Yeah. How fair is that?

2902
02:45:59,940 --> 02:46:03,330
One guy they drag along the
streets of San Francisco. Gotta

2903
02:46:03,330 --> 02:46:07,950
fire 900 people. Where's the
equity in that? I asked you.

2904
02:46:08,400 --> 02:46:14,490
Yeah. Well, speaking of New
York, Rick Schell duar. He's in

2905
02:46:14,490 --> 02:46:17,760
Brooklyn comes in with what I
call the striper donation.

2906
02:46:19,260 --> 02:46:25,200
Seven, seven. And he says, I saw
sir spoon makers ring at the

2907
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:27,540
Brooklyn meetup. Oh, there was a
Brooklyn meeting. I didn't get

2908
02:46:27,540 --> 02:46:31,440
the meetup report. Oh, there we
have producers in Brooklyn who

2909
02:46:31,440 --> 02:46:36,270
met is I want one. This donation
should bring me up to 1000 I'm

2910
02:46:36,270 --> 02:46:41,160
thankful my brother. My brother
Mel car and Tucson and my smokin

2911
02:46:41,160 --> 02:46:45,360
hot wife winter snark of 17
years, which is why I had to

2912
02:46:45,360 --> 02:46:50,850
leave the meet up. And oh my
case, what?

2913
02:46:52,440 --> 02:46:54,150
John C Dvorak: BOMA casi Alma
Cassie,

2914
02:46:54,180 --> 02:46:57,930
Adam Curry: what does that mean?
Like, Hey, is that fast? Like I

2915
02:46:57,930 --> 02:47:00,810
did meet lead the meet up? And
I'm a kossei

2916
02:47:01,320 --> 02:47:02,010
John C Dvorak: Yeah,

2917
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:03,600
Adam Curry: I don't under I
don't know. I don't know what

2918
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:07,890
you what we're gonna we're gonna
we're gonna night you no matter

2919
02:47:07,890 --> 02:47:10,680
what. Thank you. And he doesn't
ask for anything else. So that's

2920
02:47:10,680 --> 02:47:12,270
easy one. Oh, my kossei.

2921
02:47:14,340 --> 02:47:18,360
John C Dvorak: So we have a note
from the indie in. In a meet F

2922
02:47:18,360 --> 02:47:21,720
in Greenwood, Indiana. Is this
this separate third week of the

2923
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:22,920
same? No.

2924
02:47:23,010 --> 02:47:26,850
Adam Curry: Do we have? No, no,
no, this is the new media. This

2925
02:47:26,850 --> 02:47:30,360
is from the raffle. So they
finally figured out the raffle

2926
02:47:30,360 --> 02:47:32,880
they figured out because they
wanted to do it on the last

2927
02:47:32,880 --> 02:47:35,910
show. And like we could sneak it
in 10 minutes before you start

2928
02:47:35,940 --> 02:47:36,270
splitting.

2929
02:47:36,270 --> 02:47:38,010
John C Dvorak: But that show
before that, why didn't you do

2930
02:47:38,010 --> 02:47:40,320
it, then that's when you came
back. Because

2931
02:47:41,310 --> 02:47:44,310
Adam Curry: as I explained, they
have a very complicated process.

2932
02:47:44,490 --> 02:47:46,890
And it's very well organized,
just a little slow,

2933
02:47:47,400 --> 02:47:49,560
John C Dvorak: organized and may
switcheroo donation day.

2934
02:47:50,430 --> 02:47:53,460
Adam Curry: You can be grateful.
I'm grateful

2935
02:47:53,460 --> 02:47:55,110
John C Dvorak: for it. But I
would like it to be a little

2936
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:57,300
more consolidated. I think there
this is

2937
02:47:57,300 --> 02:48:00,240
Adam Curry: the consolidation.
This is from the raffle. Those

2938
02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:03,120
other ones were people who were
just there and donated because

2939
02:48:03,120 --> 02:48:05,700
they were there. This is from
the raffle. And it's all

2940
02:48:05,700 --> 02:48:07,680
consolidated. It

2941
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:09,990
John C Dvorak: is Yes. Which
rule donation from indie media

2942
02:48:09,990 --> 02:48:12,960
for Vikon of Hamilton and the
two pennies and no jingles. No

2943
02:48:12,960 --> 02:48:16,200
karma. Well, that's a plus. I
just want to thank Adam and Tina

2944
02:48:16,200 --> 02:48:21,150
for visiting. Okay. God bless.
Okay, so I guess that'll be the

2945
02:48:21,150 --> 02:48:21,600
end of it.

2946
02:48:21,660 --> 02:48:25,620
Adam Curry: No, because the next
one is also these are all the

2947
02:48:25,620 --> 02:48:28,650
you know how it works, they do a
raffle, and they consolidate it

2948
02:48:28,650 --> 02:48:32,040
all. And then they gave away
like four executive producer

2949
02:48:32,040 --> 02:48:34,800
ships and one associate and this
is and they sent it in one

2950
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:36,600
email. What's your gripe?

2951
02:48:37,590 --> 02:48:38,580
John C Dvorak: Okay, just
saying, You

2952
02:48:38,610 --> 02:48:40,260
Adam Curry: know what I know,
I'm asking you a question.

2953
02:48:40,260 --> 02:48:42,600
What's your gripe? What's wrong?
What did they do wrong? So we

2954
02:48:42,600 --> 02:48:45,210
can make you a happier man?
Well, I don't

2955
02:48:45,210 --> 02:48:47,160
John C Dvorak: care one way or
the other. But I thought this

2956
02:48:47,160 --> 02:48:51,360
would all be resolved. And you
went there. And then there was a

2957
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:54,750
big meet up report and you had
all the donations together and

2958
02:48:54,750 --> 02:48:57,390
everything you'd like normally
you do a meet up. And then if

2959
02:48:57,390 --> 02:48:59,970
there's a report on the meetup,
and then all the donations are

2960
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:03,090
submitted, and they all goes
through at once. This is the

2961
02:49:03,090 --> 02:49:06,960
been the third week that we've
been doing the same plugs for

2962
02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:08,610
the India in a meet up

2963
02:49:08,670 --> 02:49:09,780
Adam Curry: now you don't
understand?

2964
02:49:10,980 --> 02:49:15,720
John C Dvorak: I guess not know.
They just say it's never

2965
02:49:15,720 --> 02:49:16,530
happened before.

2966
02:49:17,070 --> 02:49:19,560
Adam Curry: It's never they've
never had this many donations

2967
02:49:19,560 --> 02:49:23,910
before. Which is why I'm just
grateful. switcharoo donation

2968
02:49:23,910 --> 02:49:28,800
from the indie meetup for John
Jones 333. And he says just want

2969
02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:31,200
to thank Adam and the keeper for
coming to the Indianapolis

2970
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:33,870
meetup. I was one of the lucky
winners of the raffle for an

2971
02:49:33,870 --> 02:49:37,500
executive producer level
donation. For the first oddly

2972
02:49:37,500 --> 02:49:41,220
enough 33 years of my life, I
had only been surrounded by

2973
02:49:41,220 --> 02:49:45,270
people of a particular mindset,
which I didn't share. It wasn't

2974
02:49:45,270 --> 02:49:48,240
until I started listening to the
show that I found that others

2975
02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:52,680
were similar free thinkers.
Thank you for the no agenda show

2976
02:49:52,680 --> 02:49:56,280
as I have not had to feel like I
was such an anomaly for the past

2977
02:49:56,310 --> 02:49:58,980
11 years. Yikes.

2978
02:49:59,010 --> 02:50:04,350
John C Dvorak: Beautiful.
Baronet to salty in Manchester,

2979
02:50:04,350 --> 02:50:10,020
New Hampshire 333 early Merry
Christmas to you and the

2980
02:50:10,020 --> 02:50:12,930
producers and listeners the best
podcast in the universe may the

2981
02:50:12,930 --> 02:50:21,150
Lord's face face face shine upon
you all love Baronet to salty of

2982
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:29,250
Manchester. I was I had trouble
pronouncing the word borrowers.

2983
02:50:29,730 --> 02:50:32,970
Adam Curry: I heard that you
went Baba Wawa vers Raza

2984
02:50:33,570 --> 02:50:37,260
John C Dvorak: was weird funny
to get into a loop where I

2985
02:50:37,260 --> 02:50:40,470
couldn't say it and it was like
I'm concerned now that I

2986
02:50:40,470 --> 02:50:45,060
couldn't say borrow words. I
kept trying to put it as to one

2987
02:50:45,060 --> 02:50:49,260
borrower. I couldn't do it. And
it was just like, very annoying.

2988
02:50:49,260 --> 02:50:51,210
I'm wondering if that's a bad
thing. Well, I

2989
02:50:51,210 --> 02:50:53,130
Adam Curry: was thinking, Trojan

2990
02:50:56,580 --> 02:50:59,820
John C Dvorak: that's what
triggered my beat. 12 Thomas

2991
02:50:59,820 --> 02:51:03,630
Adam Curry: Perez is in
Minnetonka, Minnesota 333 This

2992
02:51:03,630 --> 02:51:06,150
is a switcheroo birthday
donation from my little bro

2993
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:09,180
Henry. Happy Birthday buddy.
Couldn't let you stay a

2994
02:51:09,180 --> 02:51:12,210
douchebag for another year. D
Duchenne biscuit please.

2995
02:51:13,980 --> 02:51:18,030
Unknown: You've been de Deus.
They always give me my birthday.

2996
02:51:19,230 --> 02:51:21,720
John C Dvorak: All right.
Indeed. No agenda meet up once

2997
02:51:21,720 --> 02:51:25,410
again from Greenwood Indiana.
Switch another switcheroo raffle

2998
02:51:25,410 --> 02:51:32,250
them a big raffle. This is for
Sir Brian with an eye as opposed

2999
02:51:32,250 --> 02:51:36,870
to what grew up in India. It was
nice to see familiar faces and

3000
02:51:36,870 --> 02:51:39,720
make new friends but when I
returned to Texas, the doctors

3001
02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:44,040
could not determine how I
contracted RSV but thankfully I

3002
02:51:44,040 --> 02:51:48,510
listen to no agenda show so the
mystery is the mystery has been

3003
02:51:48,510 --> 02:51:53,880
solved. And thanks Emily. It's
been a fun two weeks on the germ

3004
02:51:53,880 --> 02:51:59,730
barge. This calls for an Obama
you might die in the morning.

3005
02:52:01,230 --> 02:52:05,100
Adam Curry: You might die in the
morning you might die don't have

3006
02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:09,270
the in the morning handy. But
yeah, you might die Sir Brian

3007
02:52:09,270 --> 02:52:13,890
with an eye versus her Brian
with a why. Another switcheroo

3008
02:52:13,890 --> 02:52:17,160
from the indie and a meet up.
This is the from the raffle

3009
02:52:17,160 --> 02:52:22,320
donation. This is for Sir Nick
dragon of the four domains. And

3010
02:52:22,320 --> 02:52:25,590
he asked actually this was a
good one. He said could you

3011
02:52:25,590 --> 02:52:30,450
please play the jingle John's
gonna hum the Sunday Times and

3012
02:52:30,450 --> 02:52:35,550
throw in a chef's on whoo I had
to look for it. But yes. John's

3013
02:52:35,550 --> 02:52:44,370
gonna Hama Sunday Yeah, classic
have not heard that. So

3014
02:52:44,370 --> 02:52:47,010
John C Dvorak: long ago, long,
long time. They had a

3015
02:52:47,010 --> 02:52:50,460
subscription to The New York
Times. And you use the helmet.

3016
02:52:51,330 --> 02:52:54,090
And white ever hummed it by
plays. I talked about some of

3017
02:52:54,090 --> 02:52:56,370
the headlines. It was just
turned out to be a dog of a

3018
02:52:56,370 --> 02:52:59,550
segment. Lavender blossoms are
buddies in Northfield,

3019
02:52:59,580 --> 02:53:05,790
Northville Michigan, I think is
lavender blossoms.com.org.org.

3020
02:53:05,820 --> 02:53:08,340
Okay, pick up a gift for that
special someone from our farm,

3021
02:53:08,340 --> 02:53:14,160
especially the new cows can
Abies solve. It's infused with

3022
02:53:14,160 --> 02:53:20,670
my own organic cannabis and 2x
more potent in our CBD solves.

3023
02:53:20,880 --> 02:53:24,750
No, it doesn't get you high.
Special Thanks and happy

3024
02:53:24,750 --> 02:53:26,520
birthday to all. Oh,

3025
02:53:26,910 --> 02:53:30,870
Adam Curry: thank you much. I'm
just getting the next couple of

3026
02:53:30,870 --> 02:53:33,630
notes already here for some
reason that PDF wasn't sent but

3027
02:53:33,630 --> 02:53:38,910
a picture. Oh, then we get 285
from the Brooklyn drinking club

3028
02:53:38,910 --> 02:53:42,570
club meet up. And it's their
donation credit to individual

3029
02:53:42,570 --> 02:53:45,600
donors by their own accounting.
Okay, well, I love that they're

3030
02:53:45,600 --> 02:53:48,990
from Brooklyn, New York. And so
they will. They will they will

3031
02:53:49,020 --> 02:53:50,910
keep their own accounting for
that good work.

3032
02:53:52,410 --> 02:53:58,470
John C Dvorak: Chris kharsia in
San Jose California. tu tu tu tu

3033
02:53:58,470 --> 02:54:03,270
tu it's my Keeper's birthday on
December 14 And I want to give

3034
02:54:03,270 --> 02:54:07,920
her an executive title. No.
exact title for her please.

3035
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:10,770
Okay, that's a switcheroo. It
should be noted. Yeah, we don't

3036
02:54:10,770 --> 02:54:12,420
have her name. Well,

3037
02:54:12,420 --> 02:54:16,410
Adam Curry: she'll become Dame
ie of the Treasure Valley. Let's

3038
02:54:16,410 --> 02:54:19,560
John C Dvorak: put her there for
the switcheroo. Okay, well so I

3039
02:54:19,560 --> 02:54:23,250
want to have her okay Dame
nights credit so she can become

3040
02:54:23,250 --> 02:54:28,290
debt Okay. Dame of the Treasure
Valley. With all my love to you

3041
02:54:28,290 --> 02:54:29,940
my Viking beauty.

3042
02:54:31,620 --> 02:54:34,740
Adam Curry: Eli the coffee guys
in Bensenville Illinois.

3043
02:54:36,600 --> 02:54:41,100
Palindrome 21212 attached note
Merry Christmas gentlemen. First

3044
02:54:41,100 --> 02:54:43,200
of all, I want to give a shout
out to Trevor in Colorado for

3045
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:46,890
hitting me in the mouth and call
him out as a douchebag. I'm

3046
02:54:46,890 --> 02:54:49,080
thankful for both of you and
appreciate the hard work and

3047
02:54:49,080 --> 02:54:51,660
dedication which goes into
delivering a quality product

3048
02:54:51,660 --> 02:54:54,690
twice a week. I've been
listening to this since 2018.

3049
02:54:54,720 --> 02:54:57,450
I'm happy to say I'm no longer
douchebag is my wife and

3050
02:54:57,450 --> 02:55:02,220
business partner sometimes
points out She just calls you a

3051
02:55:02,220 --> 02:55:05,730
douchebag just in general. I'm
finally in a position to start

3052
02:55:05,730 --> 02:55:08,520
returning value after taking a
vow of poverty start my own

3053
02:55:08,520 --> 02:55:12,150
business. In 2021. My wife Jen
and I launched gigawatt Coffee

3054
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:15,750
Roasters two weeks before the
world shut down a timing is

3055
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:19,530
everything in business. Needless
to say, it's been a wild ride.

3056
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:22,620
No agenda has kept me company
during the long hours, early

3057
02:55:22,620 --> 02:55:25,260
mornings and late nights that go
along with the startup. I'm

3058
02:55:25,260 --> 02:55:27,660
thankful for the whole na
community and would like to

3059
02:55:27,660 --> 02:55:31,740
offer a 20% discount to all
producers go to gigawatt coffee.

3060
02:55:31,740 --> 02:55:36,210
roasters.com use code ITM 20 For
your first order to pick up a

3061
02:55:36,210 --> 02:55:40,950
great bag of fresh air roasted
coffee for under 10 bucks. Stay

3062
02:55:40,950 --> 02:55:44,220
safe. No jingles no karma, just
good vibes blessings, and warm

3063
02:55:44,220 --> 02:55:48,630
holiday wishes for the whole na
family. Stay caffeinated. All

3064
02:55:48,630 --> 02:55:48,990
right. He

3065
02:55:49,290 --> 02:55:51,150
John C Dvorak: sent me a bunch
of the coffee.

3066
02:55:51,210 --> 02:55:53,280
Adam Curry: How was it? I was
gonna ask? Well, I

3067
02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:56,010
John C Dvorak: just got it. So
like yesterday, so I like to try

3068
02:55:56,010 --> 02:56:01,140
some. He's got he's got a couple
of things you should know. He's

3069
02:56:01,140 --> 02:56:04,410
got a lot of variety of coffees
especially as single source

3070
02:56:04,410 --> 02:56:06,930
stuff. He's got some weird
coffees that he's developed and

3071
02:56:06,930 --> 02:56:12,330
also some cans of coffee drinks
that he's developed him in CES

3072
02:56:12,330 --> 02:56:18,120
who's his wife, Jen, Jen was his
partner. And I would say in

3073
02:56:18,120 --> 02:56:22,050
terms of the packaging of the of
the cans and the beans

3074
02:56:22,050 --> 02:56:26,220
themselves. Top drawer I don't
know who he hired to do the

3075
02:56:26,220 --> 02:56:29,430
packaging and the style of
marketing for the packaging

3076
02:56:29,430 --> 02:56:33,330
themselves. He's got to he's got
barrel aged coffees, artists and

3077
02:56:33,330 --> 02:56:37,890
he's got every small batch
millennial and Gen Z Zinger on

3078
02:56:37,890 --> 02:56:42,120
their beautiful small batch.
Small batch everything small

3079
02:56:42,120 --> 02:56:47,820
batch. It's just it's absolutely
top drawer and I the coffee I've

3080
02:56:47,820 --> 02:56:51,870
had so far which is the disagree
barrel aged coffee from Sumatra.

3081
02:56:52,110 --> 02:56:55,440
I like it, but I want to try
some of the other ones and see

3082
02:56:55,440 --> 02:56:58,770
what he's got going on. I'll
have a report in about a month

3083
02:56:58,770 --> 02:57:02,580
after I go through some of these
coffees. Okay. Anyway, thanks

3084
02:57:02,580 --> 02:57:03,600
for the coffee. Groovy.

3085
02:57:03,630 --> 02:57:06,540
Adam Curry: Thank you, Eli the
coffee guy. ITM 20 code at

3086
02:57:06,540 --> 02:57:06,930
checkout.

3087
02:57:08,370 --> 02:57:11,730
John C Dvorak: Sir Salah Hauser
in Melbourne, Florida is up on

3088
02:57:11,730 --> 02:57:16,590
the list. And he says and he
came up with 200 even. And he

3089
02:57:16,590 --> 02:57:21,030
says all i want for Christmas is
no exit strategy. Sorry gents.

3090
02:57:21,210 --> 02:57:25,350
Love you guys mean it's or Salah
hunter of the 321 I think you

3091
02:57:25,350 --> 02:57:29,370
should do the next one. It's
your ad. Linda Lubetkin. In

3092
02:57:29,370 --> 02:57:33,030
fact, in Lakewood, Colorado jobs
karma for a remarkable resume

3093
02:57:33,240 --> 02:57:38,280
that hits people in the mouth.
Image makers inc.com For all

3094
02:57:38,280 --> 02:57:41,910
your executive and resume job
search needs. That's image

3095
02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:46,410
makers Inc with a gay.com. But
just find Linda Lou Patrick and

3096
02:57:46,410 --> 02:57:48,990
under the show's producer lists
jobs,

3097
02:57:49,110 --> 02:57:53,160
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for John.

3098
02:57:55,080 --> 02:58:01,260
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Here it is. Sir Berzerker. We

3099
02:58:01,260 --> 02:58:04,470
have not heard from since
January of 2021. But he comes in

3100
02:58:04,470 --> 02:58:07,380
with an Associate Executive
Producer ship at $200. His note

3101
02:58:07,380 --> 02:58:12,990
is as follows. Ditch the jeering
tone Adam, get back to analysis

3102
02:58:13,020 --> 02:58:17,190
Adam show has been weak since
you got sucked into the

3103
02:58:17,190 --> 02:58:20,820
Fredericksburg ladies chap no
one cares about I can't

3104
02:58:20,820 --> 02:58:24,240
recommend this show to anyone
due to the amount of whining and

3105
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:26,940
lack of insight, sir Berzerker.

3106
02:58:28,590 --> 02:58:30,090
John C Dvorak: But he told you

3107
02:58:30,150 --> 02:58:35,280
Adam Curry: this, this actually
hurt my feelings. It did. Good.

3108
02:58:35,400 --> 02:58:36,720
Because I

3109
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:39,540
John C Dvorak: don't understand
why a $200 donation could have

3110
02:58:39,540 --> 02:58:41,190
been higher. No,

3111
02:58:41,190 --> 02:58:43,890
Adam Curry: I was like ditch the
jeering tone. What is that? What

3112
02:58:43,890 --> 02:58:46,560
is jeering tone? I don't
understand. He wants me to

3113
02:58:46,560 --> 02:58:49,710
correct something but he's not
helping me with any instrumental

3114
02:58:49,710 --> 02:58:49,920
you

3115
02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:52,740
John C Dvorak: have to actually
have a specific if you're gonna

3116
02:58:52,740 --> 02:58:54,690
do that, because I don't know
what he's talking about.

3117
02:58:54,720 --> 02:58:58,530
Adam Curry: No. And he's like,
since you got sucked into the

3118
02:58:58,740 --> 02:59:00,780
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about the ladies club or your DS

3119
02:59:00,780 --> 02:59:03,210
talking about you're talking
about the models or these moms

3120
02:59:03,210 --> 02:59:03,930
for liberties

3121
02:59:03,930 --> 02:59:07,530
Adam Curry: for liberty, which I
think is boots on the ground. I

3122
02:59:07,530 --> 02:59:10,200
don't understand now that he
can't recommend the show to

3123
02:59:10,200 --> 02:59:13,440
anyone due to the amount of
whining what whining and lack of

3124
02:59:13,440 --> 02:59:18,180
insight. I mean, that's just
what I don't know but it hurt my

3125
02:59:18,180 --> 02:59:18,900
feelings.

3126
02:59:19,440 --> 02:59:25,890
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Well, I
mean, I I feel that I like I

3127
02:59:25,890 --> 02:59:27,240
condemned this note

3128
02:59:29,040 --> 02:59:33,180
Adam Curry: we've we've been
kind of the same for 16 years.

3129
02:59:33,660 --> 02:59:36,510
Yeah, yes we fluctuate we
there's ups and downs with

3130
02:59:36,510 --> 02:59:40,110
everything but I just I just
don't understand it. Understand

3131
02:59:40,110 --> 02:59:40,260
it.

3132
02:59:42,330 --> 02:59:44,970
John C Dvorak: And here we go
again, Indy, no agenda motive in

3133
02:59:44,970 --> 02:59:48,510
Greenwood, Indiana. $200. No
jingles, no karma. Luckily,

3134
02:59:48,780 --> 02:59:51,810
switcheroo raffle. How many
raffles do they do donation from

3135
02:59:51,810 --> 02:59:57,270
the river for my call. Mike
Paul. You know there's a note

3136
02:59:57,270 --> 03:00:02,910
missing There's something
something we're doing with one

3137
03:00:02,910 --> 03:00:10,290
of our old donors. Producers. My
crotch is the I guess he's do

3138
03:00:10,290 --> 03:00:13,500
some PhD but he sent some notes
and it was confusing to Jay. And

3139
03:00:13,500 --> 03:00:16,200
she said, there's this guy who
keeps sending notes and about I

3140
03:00:16,200 --> 03:00:20,280
don't I have no record of his
notes is because it comes into

3141
03:00:20,280 --> 03:00:22,950
some other name. I'm guessing
she says Michael, I guess a

3142
03:00:22,950 --> 03:00:27,870
Michael crotch a crotch. I said,
You mean my cry my crotch? Yeah,

3143
03:00:27,870 --> 03:00:32,910
we didn't get it. And then she
cracks up. And she can't talk to

3144
03:00:32,910 --> 03:00:38,910
me for about an hour. Really?
Wow. Because it's so funny. It's

3145
03:00:38,970 --> 03:00:43,380
one of those jokes. You know, my
crotch? Yeah, my mic. You gotta

3146
03:00:43,410 --> 03:00:44,160
you got one.

3147
03:00:45,270 --> 03:00:47,550
Adam Curry: You got you got a
good job. Seymour

3148
03:00:47,550 --> 03:00:49,620
John C Dvorak: butts you can
you'll get the same approach

3149
03:00:49,620 --> 03:00:54,000
work on Mandroid work. All
right, that would be our last

3150
03:00:54,900 --> 03:00:55,800
Associate Executive

3151
03:00:55,800 --> 03:00:57,990
Adam Curry: now. And other
trolls are really hurting my

3152
03:00:57,990 --> 03:01:00,870
feelings. Like you were more
funny when you were stoned.

3153
03:01:02,010 --> 03:01:04,950
John C Dvorak: That's not true.
I'm a Mimi, who what used to

3154
03:01:04,950 --> 03:01:07,080
produce comedy knows that I

3155
03:01:07,920 --> 03:01:09,240
Adam Curry: thank you. Yes,
she's

3156
03:01:09,240 --> 03:01:10,710
John C Dvorak: an actual expert

3157
03:01:10,740 --> 03:01:13,350
Adam Curry: that Wow. Now Now I
feel much better all of a

3158
03:01:13,350 --> 03:01:14,880
sudden. Wow, that's great. He's

3159
03:01:14,880 --> 03:01:17,310
John C Dvorak: the expert. Not
some blame. Oh, that's in the

3160
03:01:17,310 --> 03:01:21,900
chat room. Troll. Troll. Troll.
Lame o troll.

3161
03:01:23,370 --> 03:01:25,230
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
to our executive and Associate

3162
03:01:25,230 --> 03:01:29,790
Executive producers we really
appreciate especially the indie,

3163
03:01:30,210 --> 03:01:33,690
raffle winners, who also all got
to take home a prize in addition

3164
03:01:33,690 --> 03:01:38,610
to the to their executive or
Associate Executive Producer

3165
03:01:38,610 --> 03:01:42,000
ship and he had like a no agenda
license plate. There was a

3166
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:45,690
signed copy of too many eggs,
the book too many eggs.com. I'm

3167
03:01:45,690 --> 03:01:48,540
just saying I mean this this was
a great way to do it. And all

3168
03:01:48,540 --> 03:01:51,510
consolidated we thank you so
much, Mark and Maria for sending

3169
03:01:51,510 --> 03:01:54,900
that all through. And of course,
we always want to thank people

3170
03:01:54,900 --> 03:01:58,650
come in under $50 For reasons of
anonymity. And if you're on a

3171
03:01:58,650 --> 03:02:02,310
sustaining donation, thank you.
If not, please consider one at

3172
03:02:02,310 --> 03:02:06,570
DeVore act.org/na or no agenda.
donations.com. John is going to

3173
03:02:06,570 --> 03:02:08,790
take us through the 50s right
now. We'd like to thank them as

3174
03:02:08,790 --> 03:02:10,110
well. Yeah.

3175
03:02:10,650 --> 03:02:14,880
John C Dvorak: Starting with
Monica, assignee for Gursky,

3176
03:02:15,030 --> 03:02:21,660
Sandy for Gursky in Rego Park,
New York 155 33 jobs karma for

3177
03:02:21,660 --> 03:02:27,000
her after the we get to the end,
sir Fetta. Net have a cheesy

3178
03:02:27,000 --> 03:02:36,570
name and Thomas Berg, Ontario
140 98 Jeffrey bents in Denver,

3179
03:02:36,780 --> 03:02:44,910
Pennsylvania 123 21 Second of
nine to knighthood, Mark

3180
03:02:46,200 --> 03:02:47,250
Adam Curry: Baylor Veldt

3181
03:02:47,550 --> 03:02:51,120
John C Dvorak: Baylor Velda K by
Livia by live out in Haddam,

3182
03:02:51,660 --> 03:02:57,870
Connecticut 100. And he's got
something to say. He says dunk,

3183
03:02:58,860 --> 03:03:04,050
Connecticut. He must be a
Dutchman. And Chris kharsia

3184
03:03:04,080 --> 03:03:08,910
wants to get in Boise Idaho, a
100. And this is a note you

3185
03:03:08,910 --> 03:03:10,890
probably should read because I
think as you becoming a night

3186
03:03:10,920 --> 03:03:12,390
well note he says Jenny

3187
03:03:12,390 --> 03:03:14,790
Adam Curry: Jensen is my keepers
name and her birthday is

3188
03:03:14,790 --> 03:03:19,920
December 14 Our ie of the
Treasure Valley not enough room

3189
03:03:19,920 --> 03:03:23,970
to complete common via Pay Pal.
We've been donating 3333 per

3190
03:03:23,970 --> 03:03:29,940
month since September 20. Border
for the roundtable. April

3191
03:03:29,940 --> 03:03:35,460
skivers April skivers with
powdered sugar and lingonberry

3192
03:03:35,460 --> 03:03:40,170
jam, I know the lingonberry jam.
So that was who we had earlier.

3193
03:03:40,650 --> 03:03:43,020
And so I guess they completed
everything. So she's going to be

3194
03:03:43,020 --> 03:03:46,260
a dame now. So this is good
news. I'm going to end I have

3195
03:03:46,260 --> 03:03:47,250
the lingonberry for you,

3196
03:03:47,880 --> 03:03:51,360
John C Dvorak: Eric, in Casper,
Wyoming. Oh, that's the other

3197
03:03:51,360 --> 03:03:55,800
thing I wanted to mention. When
I did the thing about process.

3198
03:03:56,370 --> 03:04:03,150
Somebody sent a note that went
to Jay's spam box saying they

3199
03:04:03,150 --> 03:04:05,460
didn't want to be mentioned. I
don't know if it's on this list

3200
03:04:05,460 --> 03:04:08,460
or not. I don't think so. Maybe
the last show. I didn't want to

3201
03:04:08,460 --> 03:04:11,850
be mentioned on the on the I was
a donor I didn't want to be

3202
03:04:11,850 --> 03:04:13,770
mentioned I want to be
anonymous. So I did went to the

3203
03:04:13,770 --> 03:04:20,220
spam box. And then the kicker is
they donated $50 If they had

3204
03:04:20,220 --> 03:04:25,680
donated 4999 They would
automatically automatically be

3205
03:04:25,680 --> 03:04:30,450
anonymized us right. Okay,
anyway, just just mentioned that

3206
03:04:30,450 --> 03:04:33,960
Eric in Casper, Wyoming came
with 100 bucks. He needs a D

3207
03:04:33,960 --> 03:04:41,070
douching. D deuced. Patricia
Lewis and Merced California, got

3208
03:04:41,070 --> 03:04:44,370
a birthday call out for her
grandson, and he needs a de

3209
03:04:44,370 --> 03:04:50,130
douche. Van De deuced. There we
get to Kevin McLaughlin in

3210
03:04:50,130 --> 03:04:52,620
Concord, North Carolina. He's
the Archduke Aluna lover of

3211
03:04:52,620 --> 03:04:58,950
American moves. 808 And he says
boobs they see all they know all

3212
03:04:59,880 --> 03:05:05,490
right. The Windy Brannon in
Saginaw, Michigan 75. TJ of the

3213
03:05:05,490 --> 03:05:10,380
side I 75 And there's a birthday
call out coming up. Kevin

3214
03:05:10,380 --> 03:05:14,910
McLaughlin is back with 606 with
the comment. Boobs are like a

3215
03:05:14,910 --> 03:05:20,460
fine wine they get better with
age. Serve as bash that's

3216
03:05:20,940 --> 03:05:25,500
interesting, sir BNA in
Nashville, Tennessee 5993

3217
03:05:26,370 --> 03:05:33,360
Christopher Dexter and 5678
Scott mingle mingle in Exton,

3218
03:05:33,360 --> 03:05:40,740
Pennsylvania. 55 Michael Jarrett
in mutt Ville, Connecticut, to

3219
03:05:40,740 --> 03:05:49,380
do 52 And he's a de douching. De
deuced. If Joe Biden which we

3220
03:05:49,380 --> 03:05:58,110
don't do, Eric Hof in Edmonton,
Alberta 51 Edward Bolla in

3221
03:05:58,320 --> 03:06:04,230
Dublin, Ireland 5049 And as a
birthday call out, sir tech

3222
03:06:04,230 --> 03:06:09,690
wizard in Blacksburg, Virginia.
5033 is another birthday coming

3223
03:06:09,690 --> 03:06:13,860
up. And now we go to the 50s
name and location John spade and

3224
03:06:13,860 --> 03:06:19,200
Edmond Oklahoma, Cory Cunningham
in Warrenton, Virginia. Tim

3225
03:06:19,200 --> 03:06:24,390
Delvecchio and blend in
Pennsylvania, Andrew Grasso and

3226
03:06:24,390 --> 03:06:28,260
Mineola New York Gary Mau in
Woodland Hills California

3227
03:06:28,290 --> 03:06:34,470
Stephen in in Bucks elder South
Dakota, Paul best in Horsham

3228
03:06:34,950 --> 03:06:42,780
West Sussex, UK use karma for
douchebags Brennan's of y in

3229
03:06:42,780 --> 03:06:47,940
Port orchard, Washington, Jared
Jared, you're in Nashville

3230
03:06:47,940 --> 03:06:53,940
Tennessee. Real deals now in San
Antonio, Texas. Dame Patricia

3231
03:06:53,940 --> 03:06:59,310
Worthington in Miami, Florida. I
think Miami Beach even Sarah

3232
03:06:59,880 --> 03:07:03,810
whip in Atlanta, Georgia, and
she has

3233
03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:08,070
Adam Curry: a mega douche for
Brian Lee who introduced her to

3234
03:07:08,070 --> 03:07:11,280
no agenda but has not been
donating so douchebag

3235
03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:17,010
John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin deals
in $100 Ville, North Carolina

3236
03:07:17,010 --> 03:07:22,530
Christian Freeman in San Marcos,
Texas. Diane Shawanda Beck in

3237
03:07:23,010 --> 03:07:28,740
johnsburg, Illinois, Sara Landis
in drum right, Oklahoma and last

3238
03:07:28,740 --> 03:07:34,800
on least last on the list. Is
Baron Allen been in Beaverton

3239
03:07:34,800 --> 03:07:38,130
Oregon want to thank these folks
for making this show? By the

3240
03:07:38,130 --> 03:07:40,410
way, Sarah's got a birthday
caller we got you covered. Yes,

3241
03:07:40,410 --> 03:07:42,780
Adam Curry: yeah, well, it's
it's a birthday call out for her

3242
03:07:42,780 --> 03:07:46,950
Oh, and a D douching. Yeah, for
husband Judd and a D douching.

3243
03:07:46,980 --> 03:07:47,790
And she wanted to go

3244
03:07:51,870 --> 03:07:55,440
John C Dvorak: so these are the
folks who helped make show 1616

3245
03:07:55,650 --> 03:07:59,880
Even though I don't see any 1616
donations, a possibility and a

3246
03:07:59,880 --> 03:08:01,710
reality. Thank you all. Yes. And

3247
03:08:01,710 --> 03:08:04,350
Adam Curry: again, we appreciate
everyone who came in under that.

3248
03:08:05,040 --> 03:08:07,710
And the sustaining donations are
definitely something you want to

3249
03:08:07,710 --> 03:08:12,690
check out please do that
for.org/and A reminder that

3250
03:08:12,690 --> 03:08:15,660
these credits for executive and
Associate Executive Producer are

3251
03:08:15,690 --> 03:08:19,380
completely valid legal and
anywhere credits are recognized

3252
03:08:19,380 --> 03:08:23,580
you can use it LinkedIn on your
resume or go to imdb.com If you

3253
03:08:23,580 --> 03:08:25,560
don't already have one because
you're already a top produced

3254
03:08:25,560 --> 03:08:28,530
like some of the Hollywood
people who are on there. Now if

3255
03:08:28,530 --> 03:08:31,200
not, you could open one up and
you can say to everybody I'm a

3256
03:08:31,200 --> 03:08:33,990
proud executive or Associate
Executive Producer of the best

3257
03:08:33,990 --> 03:08:38,160
podcast in the universe. Episode
1616

3258
03:08:38,280 --> 03:08:42,720
Unknown: Bar formula is this. We
go out for yet people in the

3259
03:08:42,720 --> 03:08:42,990
mouth

3260
03:08:53,310 --> 03:08:54,630
shut us

3261
03:09:02,940 --> 03:09:05,190
Adam Curry: we love celebrating
birthdays with our producers out

3262
03:09:05,190 --> 03:09:08,970
there and get mo nation gris
Garcia Garcia wishes his

3263
03:09:08,970 --> 03:09:12,120
keyboard Jenny Jensen, a very
happy one celebrating today

3264
03:09:12,120 --> 03:09:15,870
Edward Faber also celebrating
today sir tech wizard turns 33

3265
03:09:15,870 --> 03:09:19,500
Tomorrow, Patricia Lewis wishes
her grandson Jackson. A very

3266
03:09:19,500 --> 03:09:23,700
happy one he'll be turning 15 on
the 18th Sarah Landis wishing

3267
03:09:23,700 --> 03:09:26,730
her amazing husband just
Atlanta's Happy Birthday. He's

3268
03:09:26,730 --> 03:09:31,290
turning 48 Today I guess TJ of
the side I says Happy Birthday

3269
03:09:31,290 --> 03:09:35,610
Sir off gar and Thomas pears
wishes his little bro Henry a

3270
03:09:35,610 --> 03:09:38,190
happy birthday. We say happy
birthday from everybody here the

3271
03:09:38,190 --> 03:09:42,720
best podcast in the universe.
Man it's short today. We only

3272
03:09:42,720 --> 03:09:46,470
have one Damon one night. So
here is the short blade but you

3273
03:09:46,470 --> 03:09:48,030
can do you have your blade?

3274
03:09:48,150 --> 03:09:51,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, got it
right here. Ready?

3275
03:09:51,390 --> 03:09:57,330
Adam Curry: That's a pretty one.
Up on the podium Jenny Jensen

3276
03:09:57,330 --> 03:10:02,850
and Rick Shuguang Both of us for
the best podcast and universe

3277
03:10:02,850 --> 03:10:06,240
$1,000 Or more and some of you
took a long time but we are very

3278
03:10:06,240 --> 03:10:10,110
proud to pronounce the Kate the
as Dame ie of the Treasure

3279
03:10:10,110 --> 03:10:14,160
Valley and Sir Rick shut duar
hope I pronounced that right for

3280
03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:17,280
you. We've got hookers and blow
rent boys and Chardonnay, able

3281
03:10:17,280 --> 03:10:23,100
skivers with powdered sugar and
lingonberry jam. We got diet

3282
03:10:23,100 --> 03:10:26,850
soda and video games. We got
harlots and hell pepperoni rolls

3283
03:10:26,850 --> 03:10:31,380
and pale ales, Master Jolie and
margaritas, Romanesque and Rosae

3284
03:10:31,380 --> 03:10:33,480
Vaca, Manila bong hits and
Bremond sparkling side

3285
03:10:33,480 --> 03:10:35,970
wrestlers, ginger ale and
Jerboas and of course, mutton

3286
03:10:35,970 --> 03:10:39,990
and Mead Now you heard the
process go now to no agenda

3287
03:10:39,990 --> 03:10:43,440
rings.com That's where you can
see these anybody can go there

3288
03:10:43,440 --> 03:10:46,200
by the way, take a look at these
beautiful rings for knights and

3289
03:10:46,200 --> 03:10:48,900
for dame's you can size your
finger there's a little guide

3290
03:10:48,900 --> 03:10:52,170
there that shows you how to do
it. And then you will send us

3291
03:10:52,170 --> 03:10:54,930
the address and the name that it
has to go to. It's all on the

3292
03:10:54,930 --> 03:10:58,680
form that you can fill out at no
agenda rings.com that comes with

3293
03:10:59,100 --> 03:11:02,130
some wax to seal your important
correspondence with because they

3294
03:11:02,130 --> 03:11:04,890
are Signet rings. When you hit
someone in the mouth, you know

3295
03:11:04,920 --> 03:11:07,800
it leaves a lasting impression
and of course, a certificate of

3296
03:11:07,800 --> 03:11:10,890
authenticity and thank you again
and welcome to the roundtable

3297
03:11:10,890 --> 03:11:13,140
our brand new night and day no
one

3298
03:11:20,400 --> 03:11:23,370
yes, the no agenda meetups are
the companion to the show. If

3299
03:11:23,370 --> 03:11:26,520
you've never been to one you're
really missing out. I have a

3300
03:11:26,520 --> 03:11:29,670
quick meet up report from beach
girl who had not no audio

3301
03:11:29,670 --> 03:11:33,090
reports today. It was at the
Higginbotham Connecticut truck

3302
03:11:33,090 --> 03:11:36,720
bar ugly sweater party meet up
report. Send us a great picture.

3303
03:11:36,720 --> 03:11:39,990
Everyone had an ugly Christmas
sweater on. And she says it was

3304
03:11:39,990 --> 03:11:43,800
fantastic. We had 17 attendees
including some new faces. It was

3305
03:11:43,800 --> 03:11:46,500
a beautiful December day. 50 or
so degrees in Connecticut felt

3306
03:11:46,500 --> 03:11:49,620
more like fall. Most of us were
festive or an ugly Christmas

3307
03:11:49,620 --> 03:11:55,560
sweater. The pizza provided by
sea. CT Ken thank you so much he

3308
03:11:55,560 --> 03:11:58,500
can drinks and conversation
we're all great. No agenda

3309
03:11:58,500 --> 03:12:01,320
producers are the best. It was
great to be around 17 like

3310
03:12:01,320 --> 03:12:05,490
minded people and we could all
be ourselves with ugly sweaters.

3311
03:12:05,610 --> 03:12:08,040
Can't wait for the next meetup.
Adam and John Merry Christmas.

3312
03:12:08,040 --> 03:12:10,590
Thank you for your courage. Hope
you enjoy the picture from the

3313
03:12:10,590 --> 03:12:12,900
meetup enjoyed it very much
beach girl thank you so much.

3314
03:12:13,740 --> 03:12:16,770
Today there is a meetup taking
place at the Mile High meetup

3315
03:12:16,770 --> 03:12:19,200
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,
Colorado we'll be kicking off at

3316
03:12:19,200 --> 03:12:24,840
630 and on Saturday it's
important you hear this if

3317
03:12:24,840 --> 03:12:28,410
you're in Texas, it's the first
northwest Houston meat shoot.

3318
03:12:28,740 --> 03:12:31,920
That's always fun man. Go shoot
some guns with a whole bunch of

3319
03:12:31,920 --> 03:12:35,100
people. When you when you get no
agenda people no agenda

3320
03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:39,420
producers at a at a meat shoot.
They bring crazy guns and

3321
03:12:39,420 --> 03:12:43,260
they'll let you shoot them to
black powder guns, machine guns,

3322
03:12:43,290 --> 03:12:46,650
all kinds of nutty firearms. So
if you're into that or if you've

3323
03:12:46,650 --> 03:12:49,890
never, never shot a gun in your
life, they will safely help you

3324
03:12:49,890 --> 03:12:54,150
do that. And this is the Saddle
River Range at noon and Conroe

3325
03:12:54,150 --> 03:12:57,750
Texas and Sir Economic Hitman is
organizing that in New

3326
03:12:57,750 --> 03:13:01,260
Hampshire. You can meet at 1230
on Saturday at the community

3327
03:13:01,260 --> 03:13:05,340
oven in Epping, New Hampshire
for the meetup on Saturday, the

3328
03:13:05,340 --> 03:13:09,510
ITM Richmond meetup at 1230 at
glass Chester Brewing Company in

3329
03:13:09,510 --> 03:13:14,100
Gloucester, Virginia. Fort Worth
has the freeze peach meet up at

3330
03:13:14,100 --> 03:13:17,670
one o'clock at Flipz Patio Grill
that's in Fort Worth, Texas. The

3331
03:13:17,670 --> 03:13:20,640
shrunken Amiga support group
Cincinnati meets at two o'clock

3332
03:13:20,640 --> 03:13:25,320
a task group corium on Saturday
in Cincinnati, Ohio. Man there's

3333
03:13:25,320 --> 03:13:28,290
a lot here, the overturning
tables and chasing out the money

3334
03:13:28,290 --> 03:13:31,260
changes Christmas party. It
won't be at the local tap and

3335
03:13:31,260 --> 03:13:35,400
Lansdale, Pennsylvania on
Saturday 233 the flight of the

3336
03:13:35,400 --> 03:13:38,550
no agenda is that's in Los
Angeles number 47 Leo brava

3337
03:13:38,550 --> 03:13:43,410
hosts out at the proud bird 333
Pacific Time, Central Ohio

3338
03:13:43,410 --> 03:13:47,370
meeting at 333 A Dempsey's in
Columbus on Saturday the THC

3339
03:13:47,370 --> 03:13:51,570
meetup at Camden beer hall
London London Hello London four

3340
03:13:51,570 --> 03:13:56,310
o'clock GMT time Camden beer
hall London UK make sure you go

3341
03:13:56,310 --> 03:13:59,430
check out Greg is organizing
that on Saturday and finally the

3342
03:13:59,430 --> 03:14:03,060
next show day is Sunday we have
two meetups taking place them

3343
03:14:03,060 --> 03:14:07,950
the SX M salt and soda water
meet up 330 at Fat Tony

3344
03:14:07,950 --> 03:14:13,890
Smokehouse in St. St. Maarten
St. Martin Sint Maarten St.

3345
03:14:13,890 --> 03:14:18,810
Martin? The island I guess. And
also on Sunday, the final one

3346
03:14:18,810 --> 03:14:23,040
long views lively laugh loaded
mid month monthly meet up 333 At

3347
03:14:23,040 --> 03:14:27,300
rotos pizzeria Longview, Texas
go Texas. Three meetups coming

3348
03:14:27,300 --> 03:14:29,970
up in the next couple of days.
There's a lot more to see and a

3349
03:14:29,970 --> 03:14:34,200
lot more to experience at no
agenda. meetups.com you can find

3350
03:14:34,200 --> 03:14:38,610
meetups anywhere in the world
almost. They're taking place all

3351
03:14:38,610 --> 03:14:41,760
the time. If you miss one, don't
worry. There's always another

3352
03:14:41,760 --> 03:14:44,700
one coming up. You heard it like
minded people. You can wear your

3353
03:14:44,700 --> 03:14:47,910
ugly sweater you can hang out
with people, no condemnation.

3354
03:14:48,090 --> 03:14:50,580
You will be surprised at the
cool people you meet and you're

3355
03:14:50,580 --> 03:14:53,760
not the only crazy one. No
agenda enough.com If you can't

3356
03:14:53,760 --> 03:14:56,430
find one near you start one
yourself. It's very easy and

3357
03:14:56,430 --> 03:14:57,420
always a party

3358
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,960
Unknown: With the Dyson days,
you won't be triggered. You will

3359
03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:13,440
be buddy feels the same

3360
03:15:15,269 --> 03:15:19,949
Adam Curry: is like a pot. Like
a party, like a party like a

3361
03:15:19,949 --> 03:15:22,229
party, you got to meet ISOs you
got ISOs?

3362
03:15:23,490 --> 03:15:25,920
John C Dvorak: I do, but I want
to read something first. Okay.

3363
03:15:26,460 --> 03:15:33,810
So, Patricia Lewis wrote in card
and she says, I just want to

3364
03:15:33,810 --> 03:15:39,090
mention this, I think we deduced
her grandson, J. Jackson, she

3365
03:15:39,090 --> 03:15:42,510
says sent you comment on my
lovely handwriting each time I

3366
03:15:42,510 --> 03:15:48,000
send a donation. You can
attribute to find penmanship to

3367
03:15:48,000 --> 03:15:53,250
the tutelage of the Sisters of
Mercy. Of to Lemoore Ireland.

3368
03:15:53,310 --> 03:15:53,670
Oh, they

3369
03:15:53,670 --> 03:15:56,280
Adam Curry: wrapped her knuckles
with a ruler. That's

3370
03:15:56,280 --> 03:15:58,680
John C Dvorak: what I'm thinking
she has the almost exact same

3371
03:15:58,860 --> 03:16:03,390
handwriting as Tina, but I think
that I don't want to insult

3372
03:16:03,390 --> 03:16:09,540
Patricia. But I think Tina is is
actually even more fine. And now

3373
03:16:09,540 --> 03:16:16,140
we need to know how Tina learned
to write like that. Was she in a

3374
03:16:16,140 --> 03:16:18,300
Catholic school where they beat
her?

3375
03:16:19,230 --> 03:16:24,510
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
But she is a perfectionist. And

3376
03:16:24,510 --> 03:16:28,080
she always wants to be very good
at school for a whole bunch of

3377
03:16:28,080 --> 03:16:31,680
reasons. Oh, well, she's one of
those she would do her homework

3378
03:16:31,680 --> 03:16:35,310
and but that that handwriting, I
know. I'm like, Hey, babe, can

3379
03:16:35,310 --> 03:16:38,160
you write out that check for the
for the pool guy. It's like, why

3380
03:16:38,160 --> 03:16:41,490
can't you write us if Come on?
Are you kidding me? Like you're

3381
03:16:41,490 --> 03:16:44,880
given the guy a piece of art.
And he's like, Oh, I don't even

3382
03:16:44,880 --> 03:16:48,810
want to cash this check. It's so
beautiful. That's how beautiful

3383
03:16:48,810 --> 03:16:51,480
it is. I will ask her though. I
think

3384
03:16:51,480 --> 03:16:55,560
John C Dvorak: she just I will
put a I will ask for both

3385
03:16:55,560 --> 03:16:59,550
ladies. Yes. Right. I'm gonna
give him something to write out.

3386
03:16:59,550 --> 03:17:02,430
I'm gonna write out my put in a
newsletter and we can do a test.

3387
03:17:02,460 --> 03:17:06,030
Oh, it's a write off. Right off
the shoulder.

3388
03:17:07,590 --> 03:17:10,170
Adam Curry: Andrew writing
showdown. Okay, yeah, she'll be

3389
03:17:10,170 --> 03:17:13,050
happy to send that to you. I
will. I will remind the whatever

3390
03:17:13,050 --> 03:17:15,150
she needs to do you let me know.
We'll send it off.

3391
03:17:15,150 --> 03:17:17,070
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something
will happen tomorrow, but it

3392
03:17:17,070 --> 03:17:18,030
will help out please.

3393
03:17:18,060 --> 03:17:21,270
Adam Curry: You got me all
excited. All right. What are

3394
03:17:21,270 --> 03:17:23,880
your ISOs I have to Okay.

3395
03:17:25,800 --> 03:17:29,040
John C Dvorak: Let's see. What
are they? Let's start with

3396
03:17:30,450 --> 03:17:33,510
congrats. Congratulations. Oh,

3397
03:17:33,720 --> 03:17:36,360
Adam Curry: nice. I like it. I
like it. I like it. It's,

3398
03:17:36,660 --> 03:17:39,690
John C Dvorak: it's to the
point. It's crisp, crisp and

3399
03:17:39,690 --> 03:17:40,500
think about that.

3400
03:17:40,830 --> 03:17:44,490
Adam Curry: And I want you to
think about that. Yeah, yes.

3401
03:17:44,490 --> 03:17:52,440
Okay. Let me see what I have.
Check your barn door that one I

3402
03:17:52,440 --> 03:17:53,940
have you need to get out more.

3403
03:17:55,770 --> 03:17:57,060
John C Dvorak: You send that one
to me.

3404
03:17:57,330 --> 03:18:02,940
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. diddly doo.
model and then this has been a

3405
03:18:02,940 --> 03:18:04,440
lot of fun that we should stay
in touch.

3406
03:18:05,760 --> 03:18:06,840
Unknown: Kind of like that one.

3407
03:18:09,870 --> 03:18:11,910
Adam Curry: Only like Well,

3408
03:18:12,360 --> 03:18:15,090
John C Dvorak: to be honest
about it. The last one I do like

3409
03:18:15,090 --> 03:18:17,910
it too but it's a little long.
Especially when you have it

3410
03:18:17,910 --> 03:18:20,760
sitting just because congrats
but think about that. He might

3411
03:18:20,760 --> 03:18:22,170
tour short and sweet.

3412
03:18:26,130 --> 03:18:28,110
Adam Curry: Oh, this is an
executive decision.

3413
03:18:28,620 --> 03:18:31,500
Congratulations. Yeah, that's
cute. I like congratulation we

3414
03:18:31,500 --> 03:18:35,430
just keep it a congratulate
that's very for Google.

3415
03:18:36,030 --> 03:18:37,290
Unknown: It's time

3416
03:18:37,320 --> 03:18:41,640
Adam Curry: JC once again I'm
Mimi works very hard all week

3417
03:18:41,640 --> 03:18:44,850
when she's not working at the
candle. When she's not working

3418
03:18:44,850 --> 03:18:47,790
with J at the publishing
company. She is out there. Just

3419
03:18:47,790 --> 03:18:51,360
digging around for good news.
She has so much that John has

3420
03:18:51,360 --> 03:18:53,700
Dell used under good news what
is your this

3421
03:18:53,700 --> 03:18:56,010
John C Dvorak: one I cut down
because they're all local from

3422
03:18:56,010 --> 03:18:59,850
local stations from Utah too
long and they run too long. They

3423
03:18:59,850 --> 03:19:03,360
run two and a half three minutes
sometimes for two I cut this one

3424
03:19:03,360 --> 03:19:06,330
down it was a tube something
this guy could have done if some

3425
03:19:06,330 --> 03:19:10,860
58 seconds but this is about and
I believe local news channels

3426
03:19:10,860 --> 03:19:18,930
all have these stories. This is
a 16 year old. Fit 16 Amazing of

3427
03:19:18,930 --> 03:19:24,900
fit 16 year old who's pumping
iron and has a heart just stops

3428
03:19:24,960 --> 03:19:27,660
Unknown: a cash counting team is
recovering at Primary Children's

3429
03:19:27,660 --> 03:19:30,810
Hospital after his heart stopped
while lifting weights at

3430
03:19:30,810 --> 03:19:34,110
school. Witnesses say a trainer
at that school jumped into

3431
03:19:34,110 --> 03:19:37,350
action there saved his life new
special Shara Park joins us live

3432
03:19:37,350 --> 03:19:40,170
from the hospital tonight.
Shara. How's Dean Phillips doing

3433
03:19:40,170 --> 03:19:40,740
this evening.

3434
03:19:42,090 --> 03:19:44,880
Mike and dini. As you can
imagine, it has been a very

3435
03:19:44,880 --> 03:19:48,570
difficult and emotional 24 hours
for 16 year old Dean Phillips,

3436
03:19:48,870 --> 03:19:52,380
with permission from the family
close family friend tells us

3437
03:19:52,380 --> 03:19:56,220
that he was in and out of
sedation and intubation while he

3438
03:19:56,220 --> 03:19:59,430
was in ICU and every try every
time they tried to bring him out

3439
03:19:59,430 --> 03:20:03,420
of that He was agitated and
incoherent. But then today, a

3440
03:20:03,420 --> 03:20:06,270
major step in his recovery, they
were able to bring him out of

3441
03:20:06,270 --> 03:20:09,720
sedation, and he was able to
talk with his parents and start

3442
03:20:09,720 --> 03:20:13,590
asking them questions about what
happened. Now Dean's heart

3443
03:20:13,590 --> 03:20:16,380
stopped yesterday afternoon
while lifting weights with his

3444
03:20:16,380 --> 03:20:19,350
friends at Skyview High School
in Smithfield, grateful

3445
03:20:19,350 --> 03:20:21,330
to have quick access to the
right people and the right

3446
03:20:21,330 --> 03:20:23,190
resources. Sure, thanks.

3447
03:20:23,280 --> 03:20:25,740
Adam Curry: That's not good
news. That kid has an evacs

3448
03:20:25,740 --> 03:20:28,680
injury or something. This is not
good news to

3449
03:20:28,680 --> 03:20:31,470
John C Dvorak: x injury to
houses that happened to make an

3450
03:20:31,470 --> 03:20:32,730
assumption like that.

3451
03:20:34,380 --> 03:20:40,980
Unknown: A good news story from
JC de had the vibes for you and

3452
03:20:40,980 --> 03:20:46,080
me and we all feel better now
he's done his bit. To the back

3453
03:20:46,110 --> 03:20:48,600
to reality. That's turning to
shit.

3454
03:20:48,630 --> 03:20:51,030
Adam Curry: That's good news. At
the end of every single no

3455
03:20:51,030 --> 03:20:54,210
agenda show. We are long today,
everybody, but we gave you a lot

3456
03:20:54,210 --> 03:20:59,880
of deconstruction. I hope you
enjoyed it. Because one day,

3457
03:20:59,880 --> 03:21:03,960
it's all going to end and you'll
have you'll be stuck with one

3458
03:21:03,990 --> 03:21:05,520
news AI.

3459
03:21:06,600 --> 03:21:07,380
John C Dvorak: Channel one,

3460
03:21:07,440 --> 03:21:09,960
Adam Curry: that's Channel One
News, AI. That's all you're

3461
03:21:09,960 --> 03:21:14,490
gonna have. So get ready for
those days just says come in.

3462
03:21:14,610 --> 03:21:18,060
That's Oh, it's definitely
coming. But you know, we could

3463
03:21:18,060 --> 03:21:21,480
just sit at home collect checks,
and the AI just looks at every

3464
03:21:21,480 --> 03:21:25,440
story and goes, Oh, I know how
to do this. They would be very

3465
03:21:25,440 --> 03:21:32,610
funny. But we'll start with you.
Coming up next on no agenda

3466
03:21:32,610 --> 03:21:36,810
stream.com We have mere mortals
which is our buddy Kyron from

3467
03:21:36,810 --> 03:21:42,570
Down Under. It's a book review.
How would aliens wage war chyron

3468
03:21:42,960 --> 03:21:47,130
I love you chyron. In your show
makes his Fletcher Steve Jones

3469
03:21:47,160 --> 03:21:50,880
and Matty J. And I am coming to
you from the heart of the Texas

3470
03:21:50,880 --> 03:21:55,020
Hill Country and I say in the
morning to you. I'm Adam curry,

3471
03:21:55,530 --> 03:21:58,320
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're

3472
03:21:58,320 --> 03:22:01,740
going to have some rain this
weekend. Yay for us. I'm John C.

3473
03:22:01,740 --> 03:22:02,400
Dvorak.

3474
03:22:02,730 --> 03:22:05,850
Adam Curry: We've gotten rain
and it's cold yay for us here.

3475
03:22:06,450 --> 03:22:09,690
Remember us the divorce
act.org/na Looking forward to

3476
03:22:09,690 --> 03:22:13,800
seeing you all on Sunday till
then adios Mufasa Hui noise Hey

3477
03:22:18,510 --> 03:22:21,600
John C Dvorak: once it was
reluctantly around it was hard

3478
03:22:21,600 --> 03:22:24,900
to get it aroused and it is hard
to get an arrest but we got

3479
03:22:28,830 --> 03:22:31,500
everywhere else around the
country is doing this together

3480
03:22:31,500 --> 03:22:41,040
dress just keep it up get it
wrapped together it's going to

3481
03:22:41,040 --> 03:22:48,510
be engendered now is to get into
a house I'll give you the gist

3482
03:22:48,510 --> 03:22:52,980
of it quick get some white stuff
somebody helped me out here all

3483
03:22:52,980 --> 03:23:05,940
cash baby stay calm the guys
because they wouldn't even say

3484
03:23:05,940 --> 03:23:06,450
going even

3485
03:23:15,390 --> 03:23:23,760
Unknown: bigger apps scorpion is
made in total. They were asked

3486
03:23:23,760 --> 03:23:25,620
to change it and he wouldn't do
that.

3487
03:23:27,690 --> 03:23:31,470
John C Dvorak: This is a crisis.
This is all amateur hour. This

3488
03:23:31,470 --> 03:23:34,590
is all stuff done in the
controller or done by somebody

3489
03:23:34,590 --> 03:23:37,800
who's not a good guy and done on
purpose. As

3490
03:23:37,800 --> 03:23:39,060
Unknown: stupid have we been?

3491
03:23:39,210 --> 03:23:43,020
Of course people got all kinds
of fun clips. How stupid have we

3492
03:23:43,020 --> 03:23:44,730
been people making songs from
that

3493
03:23:46,680 --> 03:23:53,220
if you have social media that is
dominated by algorithms that

3494
03:23:54,840 --> 03:23:59,040
pull people down these rabbit
holes rabbit holes, rabbit

3495
03:23:59,040 --> 03:24:04,560
holes, rabbit holes, these
algorithms they are the digital

3496
03:24:04,560 --> 03:24:11,460
equivalent of AR fifteens they
ought to be banned but when

3497
03:24:11,460 --> 03:24:15,690
these when people are pulled
down these rabbit holes, rabbit

3498
03:24:15,690 --> 03:24:19,380
holes, you know what's at the
bottom of the rabbit hole rabbit

3499
03:24:27,690 --> 03:24:31,380
quiet to ask what's up

3500
03:24:37,800 --> 03:24:39,540
John C Dvorak: artificial
insanity

3501
03:24:44,880 --> 03:24:49,140
Unknown: I just signed another
$200 million drawdown to the

3502
03:24:49,140 --> 03:24:53,850
Department of Defense for
Ukraine. Thank you. Thank you

3503
03:25:09,809 --> 03:25:12,569
We're gonna bring in Isabella
surgical to Melbourne where

3504
03:25:12,569 --> 03:25:16,109
researchers they may have found
a possible cure for COVID 19.

3505
03:25:16,319 --> 03:25:19,829
Using a treatment that is cheap
and available to everyone is a

3506
03:25:19,829 --> 03:25:23,609
so what is it? Well, it's a
headless treatment. It's called

3507
03:25:23,639 --> 03:25:26,579
ivermectin and attendees.

3508
03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:30,420
Know what this is. This is
ivermectin for humans to win a

3509
03:25:30,420 --> 03:25:33,810
Nobel Prizes anti feral. See
this Fauci see this Bill Gates.

3510
03:25:33,930 --> 03:25:36,720
I'm gonna kill those prions You
bastard murderers in him with a

3511
03:25:36,720 --> 03:25:40,050
bio weapons monster. You want to
suppress me want to kill the son

3512
03:25:40,050 --> 03:25:44,310
of a bitch, you goddamn demon.
He's like, I'm easy to kill. And

3513
03:25:44,310 --> 03:25:45,600
I sure wish you'd wake up

3514
03:25:46,380 --> 03:25:52,200
in a petri dish. This can kill
two cells and cause 19 Joe

3515
03:25:52,200 --> 03:25:54,660
Rogan kicks your murder and as
to you'd love to bury him to

3516
03:25:54,660 --> 03:25:57,750
your little monster magnet. He's
in this National Geographic

3517
03:25:57,750 --> 03:26:00,330
piece about oh, I don't usually
deal with my enemies right away.

3518
03:26:00,330 --> 03:26:03,330
I get them later. You creep up
on with a poison injections,

3519
03:26:03,420 --> 03:26:06,480
dressed up in a lab coat little
Josef Mengele, Nuremberg Code

3520
03:26:06,480 --> 03:26:09,570
violating monster get damn
monster

3521
03:26:18,780 --> 03:26:25,440
Lobo boruch.org/and
Congratulations