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Adam Curry: Hey, ring finger.
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February 8 2024. This is your
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is no agenda commission to

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country here and FEMA Region
number six in the morning

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everybody. I'm Adam curry.

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John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern
Silicon Valley where we don't

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want to call them migrants
anymore. I'm John Cena Morag

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Adam Curry: buzzkill you know
this their asylum seekers that's

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the that's the official name

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John C Dvorak: actually the
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Adam Curry: but maybe in
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John C Dvorak: no it is Denver.

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Adam Curry: Denver wherever I
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please.

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John C Dvorak: Denver California
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Adam Curry: sure. Yeah.
California heavy everybody

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shifts California heavy we're
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John C Dvorak: Yes. Apparently
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we're going to change it to even
though it should be illegal

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immigrant or illegal alien if
you haven't heard

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Adam Curry: illegal alien was
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John C Dvorak: that was what it
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Adam Curry: back in the day.

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John C Dvorak: They're gonna
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Adam Curry: Oh, oh, it's it's
the newcomers. Why don't we just

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call them that the newcomers?
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John C Dvorak: Creepy science
fiction movie. It wasn't

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Adam Curry: that V.

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John C Dvorak: Maybe visitors
the visitors knew maybe it was

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V. newcomers. Newcomers and the
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Adam Curry: make room make room
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John C Dvorak: hear you out?
Well? Isn't this what they claim

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that the is Israelis did to the
Palestinians take the newcomers

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and then push the other ones
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doing here with these guys? I
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they're going to use that
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Adam Curry: Well, if that's
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then I think we should go
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John C Dvorak: never said that.

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Adam Curry: I think we should go
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John C Dvorak: Good segue though
I really appreciate the

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professionalism.

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Adam Curry: Well, let's let's go
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Denver, Denver heavy. And Chris
Hayes showed talking to AOC with

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our, our actress, or actress
come House representative for

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New York. And she lays it out
very clear and simple. What this

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Unknown: And you tweeted this
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the discussion of immigrants,
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entire discussion is they're
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of pizza in America and every
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John C Dvorak: them again be
your home. I just more advanced

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warning. All right. Who used to
work whoever uses the word Matt

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and I maddened by this, look at
the guy angered. I've heard

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people say, angered. It irks me.
That's what I say. Just look at

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credit. I'm mad, and that's
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Adam Curry: Okay, I'll give that
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with AOC. So it kind of I'm mad.
And aren't you? I've

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John C Dvorak: imagined by this,
aren't you, Daphne.

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Unknown: And you tweeted this
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the discussion of events, which
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Adam Curry: this is a very good
observation. He's going mad.

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That's what it is. I'm mad. I'm
mad. He's not angry. He's going

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mad. I'm going back

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Unknown: tire discussion is
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stuff. There's like only seven
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everyone that comes is going to
take one of those Hold on a

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Adam Curry: How many slices are
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John C Dvorak: wouldn't he seven
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Adam Curry: seen a seven slice
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Adam Curry: It makes no sense.
It's going to be eight slices.

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John C Dvorak: It could be two
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be four slices. I mean, you
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Adam Curry: All right, now we
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Unknown: here. They're coming to
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only seven slices of pizza in
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is going to take one of those
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have any. And the Congressional
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today, look, we're readjusting
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Adam Curry: You've got me on a
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Congressional Budget Office
literally say, look, is that is

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John C Dvorak: that how did I
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Unknown: up by 7 trillion. And
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government money to reduce the
deficit by a trillion because of

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immigration, higher net
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we're not talking about you Free

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John C Dvorak: Money oh wait for
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Adam Curry: wait for wait for
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Unknown: started this all about
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Adam Curry: All right net
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Unknown: Absolutely it is
actually low lay completely

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nonsensical that we do not talk
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represents the United States of
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sometimes think that this is
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call, right like college
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immigration writ large, writ
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economic benefits to the United
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Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute.
I'm feeling slavery coming on.

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Unknown: And let's bring this
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caregiver, if you are a baby
boomer, if you are someone that

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Adam Curry: you see, if you're a
baby boomer, this is for you

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this information for someone

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John C Dvorak: who's gonna need
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of me and rob me aging,

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Unknown: we currently do not
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structural capacity to take care
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increasingly not have that if we
quote unquote, lock up our

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border and shut down shut down
immigration. In fact, the thing

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that has distinguished US
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countries like Japan, or other,
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economies, is the fact that our
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actually allow us to continue in
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similar countries with anti or
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policies, experienced economic
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themselves to this xenophobic
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that Fox News, frankly, seeks to
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John C Dvorak: All right now, by
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the fact that these stagnant
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Adam Curry: right. So before I
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remind ourselves with the what
the former New York banker said,

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Adam, we don't have to be
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declining in population, as long
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John C Dvorak: that I've said
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if China is in such a bad state,
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population, how come about 40%
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work? Well, the sitting there
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Aren't you
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John C Dvorak: No, no, the
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declining population, that means
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
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money. The more people we have,
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for him through all kinds of
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to universal basic income. This
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in the United States, HSBC just
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Pop actually this is for all
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predict the population of all
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in half by 2100. And it notes a
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2021. What happens with less
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we should have had we should be
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John C Dvorak: we're having
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Adam Curry: is exactly the
opposite. Now, to back up what

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AOC says let's go to Chairman of
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bank money printer go burr guy
on 60 minutes. Now remember, he

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doesn't set policy, but he's
really happy with it. What

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Unknown: are the important
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market to stabilize? Why

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Adam Curry: not this This comes
on the heels of an unbelievably

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good jobs report? Like twice as
much as expected? Which I don't

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John C Dvorak: All I all I
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Adam Curry: so All right. So I
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think it's maybe Saudi
government just some people

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taking third jobs. But but but
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it's truly unbelievable. What
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Unknown: that caused the labor
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a return of workers with several
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from the labor force for
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didn't want to go back to their
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because they just didn't want to
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Adam Curry: like, I'm not gonna
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life here. I'm not gonna work in
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Unknown: be there and move on
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then it happened in 2023, we had

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workers. And we also had with
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immigration. So there was really
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Adam Curry: it still kind of
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if we had no net emigration
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have to catch up. And maybe
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open up as wide as possible
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supply. So it's really a supply
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immigrants come in and they tend
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above that for, for non
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Adam Curry: let me try labor.
Let me let me translate what he

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just said. They're better than
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course, in the jobs that AOC
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work at about or a little bit
above, they do a little bit

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better than you would wipe in
John's but immigration

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Unknown: important because
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to work at a rate that is at or
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immigrants, or immigrants who
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John C Dvorak: of the age
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Adam Curry: It's coming. It's
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Unknown: Americans do. But
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age difference, they tend to
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is some is not the Feds job. We
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don't comment on it. I will say
over time, though dominate us

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And frankly, just in the last

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year, a big part of the story of
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into better balance is
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Adam Curry: that we just needed
the workers. You're not good

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enough. You're too old. You're
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John C Dvorak: Better equals
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Adam Curry: of course. So we had
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John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
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So job I had these clips from
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look for Biden? Is not on that.
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Adam Curry: show comes to a
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm
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is is Biden's going on. Okay.
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it. Biden is going on and on
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unions. The UAW approved him
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Unknown: I haven't I haven't I
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United Auto Workers President
Shawn fain last week. Yep,

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delivered a fiery speech in
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told Face the Nation Sunday why
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Adam Curry: Biden has always bet
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with the American worker. And he
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presidency, the Chinese worker
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John C Dvorak: the American
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immigrants in to get take jobs
away from WHO? The American

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worker, how does this make sense
to the UAW guy should be ashamed

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of himself, I was a twice member
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withdrawal. And I would it's
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very good union to guy like,
just a corrupt classic, old

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Adam Curry: Right. So all we're
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interesting, because on the last
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Republicans are all on the
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borders open border border
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not true. And the Democrats like
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get some war. Now. They're going
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we've got we we've got Biden
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the whole media is of course
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Trump's fault. Why is it Trump's
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forward to the Senate floor. Why
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Donald Trump thinks is bad for
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weaponize this issue than
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Maga Republicans said no.
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Trump. fray to Donald Trump,
Republic step to the side, who

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do they serve? Donald Trump, but
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between now and November, the
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Trump. And my Republican
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John C Dvorak: So before you
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Senate floor. I have all this.
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Adam Curry: I wanted to step
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had I marked up the 320 pages of
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version of the of the Senate
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John C Dvorak: That's not true.

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John C Dvorak: These the Senate
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was separate. They were not a
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the of the Centreville. Okay,
it's not it was its own bill,

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Adam Curry: own bill, which by
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is so cool how they do this. So
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15. I'll get to the Senate bill
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to amend title 38, United States
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improvements relating to the
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through the veterans community
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purposes. So they literally
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bill that was I guess, on the
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that out. And then and then turn
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my God, this thing was, was it
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mean, it's for submarine bases.
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border part was, we need $2
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when we send people back, they
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imagine how insane that is? So
we're sending people back that

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who came in illegally, but we're
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$2 billion to catch them. So
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mean, it's I mean, we're giving
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but I marked it out for anyone
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It's useless now, of course, but
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happen. So here's the bipartisan
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Unknown: The bipartisan bill to
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provide aid for Ukraine and
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Republicans have looked more and
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counterparts and transform
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I knew from the beginning. It's
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also knew the status quo was
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Republican leadership backing
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leader should actually lead this
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national security. It's just a
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lower chamber of Congress
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the house. Republicans are not
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border. But they're still
planning to impeach Homeland

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Security Secretary Alejandro
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immigration issue. The yeas are
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resolution is not a golfer, even
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him on the first vote Tuesday
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needs to be held accountable
divine administration needs to

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be held accountable. And we will
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impeachment

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Republicans fell one vote short
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to try again when Louisiana
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healthy enough to return to
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Adam Curry: Alright, so. So that
just this is all show stay away

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from it. There's nothing to see
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cities with the black mayors.
This is where it gets great.

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Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.
Mr. Mayor, when you're gonna go

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to the border and check it out.
We got trouble here. Mr. Mayor,

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we got people sleeping
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We got migrants everywhere and
you give him money. Mr. Mayor,

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what are you going to do? When
are you going to go to the

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border and check it out and get
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attend schools, we have soccer

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games, Yo, you all are asking me
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city. I get it a mayor. I get
it. But you're asking me to give

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you a date. And I have to court?
Do you understand that you have

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not had a mayor like me, I get
that. I have a wife. I have

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children, they have schedules.
And plus, we still have public

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safety that we have to address.
We still have the house that we

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have to address. I still have a
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black wife raising three black

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children on the west side of
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as soon as possible. Okay,

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Adam Curry: hold on a second.
I'm black. Give me a break. What

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was that? I mean, I'm sorry that
this is just crazy pay off like

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the beginning where he says, I
know you're not used to a mayor

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with kids, Larry Lightfoot. But
then he rolls into Hey, I got

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schedules. I'm raising, I'm
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I got a black ones to do. And
then Mayor Adams in New York,

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he's like, people don't like me.
You know why they don't like me

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Unknown: Have you ever seen this
much chocolate lead in the city

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of New York? Line look, look
who's here. This is

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representative of the city.
That's why people are hating on

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me. You trying to figure out why
they're hating on me the hating

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on me. Because those of you go
to church. Here we go. Man, this

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is Matthew 21 and 12 moment
Jesus walked into temple he saw

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him doing wrong in a temple. He
did what? I want to see you all

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to turn the table over.

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Adam Curry: All right, black
Jesus, everybody. There it is

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black Jesus. He overturned the
tax tables apparently in City

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Hall. This is this is very weak.
Mayor's is very, very weak. But

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they're under pressure. Now
they're under pressure. They

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can't they can't say anything
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that we don't need comprehensive
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kind of lost the whole idea that
we don't even need it. We can

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just change. It's like no, stop
them. No, it's like, you know,

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this is this is policy, not law.
The law is clear. Well, I'm

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John C Dvorak: gonna go back.
I'm gonna go back to your that

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Biden clip where he blames
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Adam Curry: Non stop is non
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thing. Yeah.

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John C Dvorak: So I looked into
the Senate bill that did go to

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the floor and did get voted down
50 to 49. Yeah. Do you know who

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voted no. Chuck Schumer his own
bill? Yeah, he voted no, in his

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own bill. But what really
happened is it would have

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passed. Yeah, but the problem
was for Schumer is that a bunch

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of the typical kind of dem dem
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Maine Murkowski and Mitt Romney.
They all voted yes. And so it

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would have passed, it wouldn't
have passed with 60 votes, but

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it would have passed and you
wouldn't have had the the Trump

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Trump Trump stuff you wouldn't
have Biden's talking points. So

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what Schumer did is he voted no,
and then got four of his lackeys

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to also vote no, for no apparent
reason that includes Elizabeth

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Warren voted no, Marquis Budhia
of California, who is the

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substitute for Feinstein and he
has to do what he's told. So he

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was told to vote no. So he did
and Menendez of New Jersey,

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who's under indictment, who has
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So he could twist it. So it came
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had to account for all these
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bill to the thing was a scam
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nobody knows that Schumer voted
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Adam Curry: Well, we couldn't we
can't report on that. There's

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John C Dvorak: one report you
can come up with right Mensa

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mentions that Schumer voted
against his own bill. No, of

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Adam Curry: Of course not. And
Governor Abbott the globalists

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just continues to views Eagle
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Unknown: Greg Abbott will meet
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April pass all to discuss border
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response to President Biden's
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course disagrees with. Prior to
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governor and Texas
representatives will receive a

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briefing on Operation lone
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border. That meeting will take
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once a busy area for illegal
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the state's ag rejected a
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administration to grant federal
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access to that park.

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Adam Curry: All right now I need
some help from you. I need help

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understanding the thinking
behind the latest episode of NBC

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Chicago Med. Which I would say
most of these programs are

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propaganda. When you've played
so many clips from these types

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of who produces this who
produces Chicago Med is another

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West done

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John C Dvorak: by Dick Wolf.

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Adam Curry: So it's a Dick Wolf
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. So

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Adam Curry: explain to me now
how he gets into these

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storylines. Where we have Mr.
Martin gets gets hit by a car.

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It's a car wreck. And he wants
to press charges because the man

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that hit him is probably here
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Unknown: Officer. Are you here
to take my statement? Excuse me.

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I want to press charges on that
guy right over there. I

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overheard someone say that he
might Mp here illegally, I need

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to make sure that doesn't affect
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Adam Curry: I'll have someone
come speak to you, Mr. Martin.

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Wade Martin. Okay. Give me a
minute. Thank you. All right, so

453
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now we're gonna go to the
hospital because of course we

454
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got the guy's wife in the
hospital and well, what wouldn't

455
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you know it? You have a moment?
Yeah.

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Unknown: It seems I'm in a bit
of a pickle. Now. So I'm

457
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officially here as Mr. Owen
adores emergency contact. He's

458
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being sheltered in the lobby of
our district. And he's not the

459
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only one. They set up camp about
a week ago. That's why he asked

460
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to call the police. And it's not
just us. They're migrants in

461
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almost every district of the
city and the buses keep coming

462
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up from the border almost
everyday. fleeing a pretty

463
00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:41,070
horrific situation under
Minnesota. Venezuela,

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Adam Curry: Venezuela. All
right. So now Mr. Martin is

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waiting for his wife to have an
MRI but no. Dr.

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Unknown: Marcel? Yeah. It's been
over an hour and my wife hasn't

467
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gotten an MRI yet. I assure you
we have not forgotten. Dr. Ahmad

468
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said she'd make it a priority
but I haven't seen a trace of

469
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her as

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soon as an MRI frees up Mr.
Martin.

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Adam Curry: I promise she's next
in queue. Yeah, yeah. Next in

472
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queue. What doctor says that
next thing done next in queue?

473
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No, because the immigrants the
illegal aliens go first.

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Unknown: Why are you moving? My
wife Sir, please is just

475
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temporary.

476
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Hey, Mr. Martin.

477
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Okay, what's going on?

478
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Did you to authorize this? My
apologies. It appears we're

479
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momentarily. I don't see what's
going on. But you're given all

480
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the rooms to them. Same thing
happened to my kids school they

481
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commandeered her gym for

482
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a shelter. Look, wait, I

483
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assure you we have enough
resources to take care of it.

484
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Oh, we don't. People keep saying
that. But we just don't Okay,

485
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the whole volleyball season got
canceled. My daughter needed

486
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that for a scholarship. And now
my wife She's obviously not

487
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receiving your full attention.
How come nobody's looking out

488
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for it? I understand

489
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that this is an inconvenience.
But we do need to free up this

490
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room. Okay, gonna get away from
her. Please stop.

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Adam Curry: No, get away from
me. I'm very confused about the

492
00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:07,140
messaging here is the messaging.
Like don't be douche is the

493
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messaging. If you are a douche,
you're gonna get apprehended and

494
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go to jail is the message we're
being overrun? I don't

495
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understand the message. Here's
the last clip and the

496
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Unknown: updates. I wish I could
say this was an isolated

497
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incident. But from what I'm
hearing around town, it seems

498
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like the welcome wagons broken
down for Zardoz offering to take

499
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Mr. Martin into custody if we
feel the staff safety is

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threatened.

501
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Adam Curry: What is the
messaging?

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John C Dvorak: Well, the
messaging if you look at it just

503
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,390
overtly, if you make a fuss
you're gonna get you're gonna

504
00:27:45,390 --> 00:27:46,710
get it and get yourself in
trouble

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00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:49,980
Adam Curry: contained. Yes, yes.
But at the same time, it's also

506
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saying, you know, who watches
this? Nobody. It has ratings.

507
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John C Dvorak: It does. It's
actually gets watched. Yeah, it

508
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,670
Adam Curry: gets watched quite a
bit.

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John C Dvorak: People want
there's three of them. There's

510
00:28:02,730 --> 00:28:07,770
Chicago, PD, Chicago Med and
Chicago Fire and they're it's a

511
00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:14,580
it's a trio Troika, a troika of
shows. And they tend to be

512
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they're very it's a very strange
bunch of shows. I have to say.

513
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So you

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Adam Curry: don't have an
analysis of why they're doing

515
00:28:23,550 --> 00:28:26,580
this. I don't have one I don't
watch this. I

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00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:28,080
John C Dvorak: know you don't
have well, you don't have to

517
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,210
watch it to know that
something's up with that

518
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:31,440
message. Yeah.

519
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:34,800
Adam Curry: Especially with the
she's next in queue. Really?

520
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:37,890
Yeah. No,

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John C Dvorak: I would just say
she's next in line that's what

522
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the normal person says she's
next in line not she's next in

523
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queues. Code in Chicago. Let you
know. Yeah. In Chicago, they

524
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she's next in line next to go.
Next in queue.

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Adam Curry: And then and then 60
minutes. did a piece on the

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Chinese aliens. Visitors
newcomers the Chinese who come

527
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right show which show is
beautiful art, which was was

528
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,810
also confusing to me because
these were not military aged

529
00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:19,530
men. These are women primarily
when the women came in, oh,

530
00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:22,950
clean clothes, clean wraps clean
shoes. Couple of them had little

531
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roller bags. Just

532
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Unknown: after sunrise. We saw
the first group of migrants make

533
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their way from Mexico through a
gap between the 30 foot steel

534
00:29:31,050 --> 00:29:36,300
border fence and rocks. ducking
under a bit of razor wire and

535
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:40,200
into the United States. We were
surprised to see the number of

536
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people coming through from China
nearly 7000 miles away cameras

537
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and at one point this armed
Border Patrol agent standing 25

538
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feet away did not deter them. 30
minutes later, a smugglers SUV

539
00:29:56,910 --> 00:30:00,120
raced along the border fence and
dropped another group at The

540
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,610
same spot, and 30 minutes after
that another group. Over four

541
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days we witnessed nearly 600
migrants, adults and children

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00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:15,720
pass through this hole and onto
us soil unchecked. The gap is a

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global destination littered with
travel documents from around the

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00:30:19,530 --> 00:30:22,890
world. But we noticed middle
class migrants from China

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arriving with rolling bags. They
told us they took flights all

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the way to Mexico. Some flew
from China to Ecuador because it

547
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,440
doesn't require a visa for
Chinese nationals. Then took

548
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flights to Tijuana Mexico. The
migrants told us they connected

549
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:41,820
with smugglers or what they call
snakeheads in Tijuana. And they

550
00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:45,990
each paid them about $400 for
the hour long drive that ended

551
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:49,950
here at The Gap. Last year, US
Customs and Border Protection

552
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,690
reported 37,000 Chinese citizens
were apprehended crossing

553
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illegally from Mexico into the
US, US Customs and Border

554
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Protection told us their agents
don't have authority to stop

555
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,940
people from coming through gaps
like this one, and can only

556
00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:09,390
arrest them after they've
entered illegally. As for

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closing that gap, they said it
is on their priority list would

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require money from Congress.

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Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me let
me check my to do list. Yeah,

560
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it's up there. It's next in
queue. So this is also some kind

561
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,880
of propaganda. And I have to say
just looking at the 60 minutes

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piece. To me, it seems like
exactly as you said, you know,

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there's 30 40% unemployment in
China. Although I've had people

564
00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:38,760
say that's not possible. They
can't travel. They gotta be

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00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,970
spies. I don't know they're not

566
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:44,490
John C Dvorak: there is an
element to that. But Chinese do

567
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:47,430
travel, of course, they travel
and they can travel to all other

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00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:50,040
countries. We have to get
permission to travel but they

569
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travel. Yeah. And then

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Adam Curry: then they they come
in here because they're looking

571
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for jobs. And of course nail
salons. Toilet, it's better than

572
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:05,970
it's better than what they've
got. But let's not. Let's not

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joke around that. I think
there's also parents and Chinese

574
00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:12,030
parents are just like every
other parents are like, hey,

575
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:15,660
this really sucks here. We got a
crappy government. There's no

576
00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:18,720
work, and I'm gonna sell the
car. I don't have a car to sell

577
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,960
the house. And I'm gonna get you
out. I'm gonna get you to

578
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,160
America. I think that's that's
also happening. This is

579
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John C Dvorak: a worldwide that
is happening. It has to be

580
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Adam Curry: and it's the
international office of

581
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:34,680
migration that is everywhere.
Now what we get to see to psych

582
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,590
us up is Darien Gap. These
people are not coming through

583
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:42,840
the Darien Gap. They got clean
shoes. Everyone saw all these

584
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,050
guys that went to the Darien Gap
traveled for over a week. Yeah,

585
00:32:46,050 --> 00:32:49,110
there's some very sad stories of
the stories of the Darien Gap

586
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that may be 1%

587
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John C Dvorak: of know this
story this way this is being

588
00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:57,210
presented where they just go to
get into in a four by four the

589
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:03,840
four wheel or four by whatever
it is delayed. It's like an SNS

590
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,330
delay, they get an Escalade,
they get driven for a couple of

591
00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:10,200
hours and dropped off and they
did a $400 cap, right. It's what

592
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,830
it amounts to.

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Adam Curry: It's like a Chinese
Uber. Yeah, no, I know makes

594
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,010
John C Dvorak: nothing but
sense. That's what you do. You'd

595
00:33:17,010 --> 00:33:19,470
first you'd find the most
efficient way of getting over.

596
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:23,160
Yeah, you wouldn't walk your ass
off. No.

597
00:33:25,890 --> 00:33:31,350
Adam Curry: No. So the but in
the meantime, the literal guy

598
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:34,020
who prints the money is like,
Hey, thank God, we've got

599
00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:38,880
immigration backup. This good.
And he he says immigration. He

600
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,730
knows we knew what he means.
People coming across the border.

601
00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:45,000
He says thank God, thank God.
There's so many jobs we just

602
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,190
didn't know. People moved on
with their lives here in

603
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:50,160
America. They left

604
00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:52,560
John C Dvorak: all the tents
around.

605
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:55,890
Adam Curry: They moved on, they
moved on to drugs, they moved on

606
00:33:55,890 --> 00:33:59,970
to camping on the streets.
That's the disgusting part. And

607
00:33:59,970 --> 00:34:04,440
we all go oh, they're spies
urban military age men. Oh,

608
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,250
please. And it's world I was
asked on a Dutch program

609
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:12,960
yesterday. It's exactly the same
thing. It's exactly the same and

610
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,980
everybody's sick of it. And
remember 40% of the world votes

611
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:23,040
this year. So now and of course,
of course we need to play this

612
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,240
out for nine more months. Of
course, Trump is telling

613
00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,380
everybody keep that goal and
this is great. Of course. Of

614
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:35,940
course he is he wants to be
president hey it's is it any

615
00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:42,450
worse than pretending to fight
Iran by bombing some some crap

616
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:47,550
in in Jordan or Syria? Well, not
only to legitimize that were

617
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:52,050
there. Oh, man. I got one last
quick. This is CBS on the

618
00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:53,670
crumbling of the plan

619
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Unknown: as migrants continue to
cross Congress is frozen in

620
00:34:57,210 --> 00:35:01,050
place. It shows up broken
Washington DC us The US senate

621
00:35:01,050 --> 00:35:04,050
plan to stiffen border security
tightened requirements for

622
00:35:04,050 --> 00:35:07,470
asylum and nearly shuttered the
border during spikes of migrant

623
00:35:07,470 --> 00:35:10,320
crossings had the endorsement of
Senate leaders. I didn't

624
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,540
Adam Curry: see any of that in
any bill. Did you say any of

625
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:15,270
that? We're going to shutter the
border. No, it was money. Oh,

626
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,100
agents. In

627
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:19,500
John C Dvorak: fact, there's the
one of the supporters of the

628
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:23,250
bill a Democrat tweeted that
there's actually no no closing

629
00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:25,770
of the border mentioned even in
the bill. No, it's for more

630
00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:29,790
personal the whole thing was the
bill was a scam. Designed to get

631
00:35:29,790 --> 00:35:33,930
the Republicans to vote no. So
they could be accused. Wanting

632
00:35:33,930 --> 00:35:37,830
Yes, yes. It didn't work out
because the Republicans are

633
00:35:37,830 --> 00:35:41,640
voting yes on it. At least a few
of them. Oh, we got Schumer

634
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,840
voted no, I'm gonna hound people
about this is very good. John.

635
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:45,990
That's

636
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:47,910
Adam Curry: an excellent
observation, a national border

637
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:48,690
Unknown: patrol union.

638
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,430
My Republican colleagues changed
their minds. Turns out they

639
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:56,220
weren't all talk and no action.
The

640
00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:59,160
motion is not it. But it
collapsed in a vote late today,

641
00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:01,800
credit cards because former
President Trump opposed it.

642
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,120
Adam Curry: Was Trump on the
floor. Was he there like

643
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,070
John C Dvorak: Trump was there
voting no.

644
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:08,820
Adam Curry: Trump's

645
00:36:10,290 --> 00:36:12,210
Unknown: action. The motion is
not it. But

646
00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:15,270
it collapsed in a vote late
today, in part because former

647
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:19,140
President Trump opposed it.
Americans are ticked off that

648
00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:20,310
this is not resolved.

649
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:22,620
Adam Curry: I'm ticked off. How
about you, John? Are you ticked

650
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:23,010
off?

651
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,070
John C Dvorak: Nobody's ticked
off. It's

652
00:36:26,070 --> 00:36:27,060
Adam Curry: next in queue.

653
00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:30,120
Unknown: The impasse is a blow
also to cities like Chicago,

654
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:33,570
where Alderman Byron Sixto Lopez
is helping the city respond to

655
00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:36,090
1000s of migrants bust from the
border. The

656
00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:40,260
federal government has
exacerbated and worsening the

657
00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:41,610
issue of the border. The

658
00:36:41,610 --> 00:36:44,760
Senate today then shifted to a
new plan with 10s of billions of

659
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,570
dollars to help Ukraine and
Israel but no border changes. It

660
00:36:48,570 --> 00:36:50,820
will face stiff resistance in
the house.

661
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,960
I mean, this place is just it
just chaos right. Failures

662
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,510
happened a day after House
Republicans came up one vote

663
00:36:57,510 --> 00:37:00,360
short in trying to impeach
Homeland Security Secretary

664
00:37:00,390 --> 00:37:03,570
Alejandro Mayorkas, was it a
surprise how it played out?

665
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:05,190
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't think it
was a surprise it was more of a

666
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:05,730
disappointment.

667
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:09,480
Unknown: Texas Democrat Al Green
hospitalized near the Capitol

668
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,330
after intestinal surgery made a
surprise appearance on the

669
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floor. Casting the deciding
vote. You had to sign a waiver

670
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,300
to get out of the hospital to
vote. It was

671
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:21,450
acknowledgment that I understood
that there could be some

672
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:24,120
consequences that could be
adverse in my best interest in

673
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,920
our hero al

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00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:29,400
the house could vote as early as
next week on a second attempt to

675
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,760
impeach Secretary Mayorkas,
further inflaming and already

676
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,550
fiery and gridlock Congress.

677
00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:39,570
Adam Curry: Okay, so that is the
show that nobody wants to go to

678
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,970
no one no one is interested in
your stupid little show. And no

679
00:37:44,970 --> 00:37:47,550
one's interested in your war.
We'll get to that in a moment

680
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:51,030
because right now, in this
season of reveal We have

681
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:52,080
breaking news

682
00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:56,160
Unknown: breaking news from the
UK, Britain's King Charles has

683
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,790
been diagnosed with cancer.
Buckingham Palace has issued a

684
00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:03,780
statement saying that the cancer
was discovered while the king

685
00:38:03,810 --> 00:38:06,930
was undergoing a separate
procedure for an enlarged

686
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:11,430
prostate. That news coming out
in just the last hour, we need

687
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:14,070
Adam Curry: to go back in time
for a moment we need to go back

688
00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:21,150
to December 8 2022, episode 1510
of this podcast in UK who

689
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,060
John C Dvorak: have not heard
anything about Charles This is

690
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:24,840
interesting.

691
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,700
Adam Curry: That's why I call
around now.

692
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:29,970
John C Dvorak: Charles

693
00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:36,420
Adam Curry: I believe it right
away. People are mad they hate

694
00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:40,320
the HR alls. I think it's also
some you know, they're just

695
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,360
pushing their anger on to him.
Why not?

696
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:45,600
John C Dvorak: Do what is
available type? If what you say

697
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,020
is true. They're gonna have to
do it because they have to have

698
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:51,750
a coronation. They can't just
let this last they're gonna have

699
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:59,490
to kill him. Yeah. So am I six?
Or am I five? It'd be five or

700
00:38:59,490 --> 00:39:03,990
GCHQ those guys were one of
these spooky groups up there.

701
00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:07,830
They're gonna have to get the
old pricker out of them safe

702
00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:10,980
now. I kill him because I
believe you're right.

703
00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:13,920
Adam Curry: I really think
you're right. And Harry has

704
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,680
always been the designee you
know the Charles's mom has been

705
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,620
as long as she could you know
she she did not want to see you

706
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,920
do not want to see Charles on
the throne. And everyone knows

707
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Harry is the chosen one. So I
think it right now. We can put

708
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,640
in the Red Book. The question is
how what is the best way to do

709
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:39,750
it? We need a cover story. From
the Red Book from the Red Book,

710
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:44,100
cover story. Oh, we discovered
some worse cancer than the s.

711
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:49,350
He's done. He's toast he's over.
He's out. Willis arm daily

712
00:39:49,350 --> 00:39:53,400
wasn't going to be now we knew.
We knew it. We knew it. This is

713
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,460
the point. We knew. I mean, who
knows what is going on? But he's

714
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:07,860
out The hairy dead man did king
for a day. dead dead band rock.

715
00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:11,430
I feel sorry to laugh about it,
but that's what it is. It's what

716
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:17,730
it is. That's what they do.
Okay, I think before we get into

717
00:40:17,730 --> 00:40:20,760
war because it's just a lot of
net pops or as I heard recently

718
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,020
a net package. This is this is a
new term for us net pops net

719
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:29,490
package. I think we must talk
about. Of course it happens on a

720
00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:33,270
show day. Tucker Carlson is
going to interview Putin. Oh,

721
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:41,100
no, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. This
is great. It's, I mean, he

722
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:45,720
doesn't he needs zero promotion
budget. He doesn't have to

723
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:50,310
promote anything. The mainstream
media goes out and promotes his

724
00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:54,960
interview for him. What is going
on? There? He's picked up some

725
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,890
tips from Trump. Listen to Erin
Burnett, unhinged,

726
00:40:59,130 --> 00:41:02,790
Unknown: massive shakeup in keep
it coming as Putin is trying to

727
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:07,020
court the Maga GOP in the United
States. In fact, one of the

728
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:10,380
leaders of the Maga GOP is in
Moscow tonight.

729
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,020
Adam Curry: Did you don't talk
her as a leader. He's a leader.

730
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,010
John C Dvorak: Somehow a leader
of the mega limits.

731
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Adam Curry: When the Maga GOP
baby,

732
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:23,820
Unknown: it's the manual. Here P
with the Maga leader Donald

733
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:27,900
Trump, Tucker Carlson. Possibly
they're in Moscow to interview

734
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:31,290
Putin definitely there as
opposed supporting celebrity.

735
00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:33,600
Look at them talking about him
like a celebrity. Everything he

736
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,740
does on camera breathlessly
repeated note is unclear if an

737
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:40,110
interview between Putin and
Carlson will take place. But if

738
00:41:40,110 --> 00:41:43,740
it does, it gives Putin a chance
to sit down with a big

739
00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:44,430
supporter.

740
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:48,180
It might be worth asking
yourself since it is getting

741
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:51,810
pretty serious. What is this
really about? Why do I hate

742
00:41:51,810 --> 00:41:55,500
Putin so much? As Putin ever
called me a racist? Has he

743
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:57,810
threatened to get me fired for
disagreeing with him?

744
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,590
Does he eat dogs? These are fair
questions. And the answer to all

745
00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:03,810
of them is now at that is I
didn't

746
00:42:03,810 --> 00:42:06,090
Adam Curry: do any of that. But
what's the dog thing again?

747
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:09,150
John C Dvorak: The dog thing is
always a reference to Obama. Oh,

748
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:09,390
right.

749
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:13,140
Adam Curry: Right, right, right.
Exactly.

750
00:42:13,890 --> 00:42:16,080
Unknown: I'll actually always
remember watching that clip. I

751
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,600
was standing in Ukraine 48 hours
before the war begin there. By

752
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,400
Putin consistently all the way
through.

753
00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:26,580
Adam Curry: The second she was
there to interviews Alinsky.

754
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:29,550
That's why she brought that up.
She he had that fawning

755
00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:31,440
interview was before

756
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,510
John C Dvorak: the war began.
She was there. Yeah, two

757
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:36,510
interviews. By coincidence? I
think not.

758
00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:39,390
Unknown: Well, Carlson then
stood by Putin consistently all

759
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:43,560
the way through. And that is why
she can go to Moscow now without

760
00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:47,490
Adam Curry: by the way, she said
before the war begin, which was

761
00:42:47,490 --> 00:42:50,910
very odd. It would have been
began.

762
00:42:51,450 --> 00:42:53,310
Unknown: These are fair
questions, and the answer to all

763
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:57,600
of them is no. Vladimir Putin
didn't do any of that. I'll

764
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:57,870
actually

765
00:42:57,870 --> 00:43:00,660
always remember watching that
clip. I was standing in Ukraine

766
00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:04,020
48 hours before the war begin
there. Begin there,

767
00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:05,370
Adam Curry: what is their

768
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,130
John C Dvorak: language begin
there?

769
00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:11,490
Adam Curry: She may be a
newcomer before the war begin

770
00:43:11,490 --> 00:43:11,820
there

771
00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:13,860
Unknown: then stood by Putin
consistently all the way

772
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:17,970
through, and that is why he can
go to Moscow now without any

773
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:21,870
fear of being summarily
imprisoned, is a hero. This was

774
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:25,020
Putin's mouthpiece in the United
States, somebody who had turned

775
00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:27,840
a blind eye to the atrocities
committed by Putin because they

776
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,590
were happening far away. Once
vibrant towns turn to ruins mass

777
00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:35,220
graves with dozens of bodies and
the kief suburbs, a theater full

778
00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:38,850
of innocent women and children
sheltering bombed. Despite the

779
00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:41,940
giant world's children written
on the roof, no more than

780
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:45,540
200,000 Ukrainian soldiers
killed or injured dad, he's a

781
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:48,600
murderer who's trying to seize
on the fact that Zelinsky is

782
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,000
military appears to be in
turmoil. Yeah, okay.

783
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:55,380
Adam Curry: So of course, Trump
called up Vladimir and said if

784
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:58,800
my boys come and this is great,
we'll get your story out. Of

785
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,070
course. It doesn't make Tucker a
leader of the Maga GOP. It makes

786
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:05,160
me

787
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,560
John C Dvorak: that was of debt
she I didn't know what the word

788
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:14,310
is. I have a clip for 2001 in
NBC, one of their guys I don't

789
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:18,390
even know who this guy is
interviewing Putin. Before the

790
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:23,880
war begin, begin begin.
Beginning beginning there

791
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,800
Adam Curry: and begin there
before the wind begin begin

792
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,510
there. Yes. And

793
00:44:27,570 --> 00:44:29,760
John C Dvorak: this is the kind
of interview and then they just

794
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000
basically kept Putin out of the
picture after this interview

795
00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:34,770
Unknown: that makes us ask you a
direct question.

796
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,070
Did you order Alexei Navarro
nice assassination. And they

797
00:44:38,070 --> 00:44:41,640
should can use No, of course
not. We don't have this kind of

798
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,280
habit of assassinating anybody.
That's one. Number two is I want

799
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,630
to ask you, did you order the
assassination of the woman who

800
00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:53,820
walked into the Congress and who
was shot and killed by a

801
00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:58,950
policeman? Do you know that 450
individuals were arrested after

802
00:44:58,950 --> 00:45:01,800
entering the Congress? Come on,
they didn't go there to steal a

803
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,510
laptop. And even if they came
with political demands, 450

804
00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:09,030
people have been detained.
You're talking about the

805
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:15,210
capital, they're looking at jail
time, between 15 and 25 years.

806
00:45:15,870 --> 00:45:19,620
And they came to the Congress
with political demands. Isn't

807
00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:22,260
that prosecution for political
opinions? Yeah, no.

808
00:45:23,820 --> 00:45:31,080
Adam Curry: But to me, to me,
this is this is to get Trump

809
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:36,960
elected. I mean, I was almost a
no, I knew for sure. I knew it

810
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,080
before it begin. When we brought
her out, there she is. When you

811
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,980
bring out Hillary to promote
this, you know, they want Trump

812
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:51,720
to win, she wants everybody to
watch. And she's she is

813
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:56,250
literally using the literal same
playbook about Trump as she did

814
00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:57,990
in 2016.

815
00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:00,810
Unknown: I mean, he's like a
puppy dog, you know, he somehow

816
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:04,980
has, after having been fired
from so many outlets in the

817
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:09,720
United States, he, I would not
be surprised if he emerges with

818
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,890
a contract with outlet because
he is a useful idiot. He says

819
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:18,120
things that are not true. He
parrots Vladimir Putin's pack of

820
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,940
lies about Ukraine. So I don't
see why Putin wouldn't give him

821
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:27,960
an interview. Because through
him, he can, you know, continue

822
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,190
to lie about what is, you know,
objectives are in Ukraine, and

823
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:36,750
and you know, what he expects to
see happen? It's really quite

824
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:42,180
sad that not just somebody like
Tucker Carlson, who has, as I

825
00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:46,650
said, been fired so many times,
because he seems unable to, you

826
00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:52,770
know, correlate his reporting
with the truce. But also because

827
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,790
it's a sign that there are
people in this country right now

828
00:46:56,820 --> 00:47:00,930
who are like a ship's column for
Vladimir Putin and right,

829
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,640
although no, I mean, why are
Republicans throwing their lot

830
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,020
in? Why are you no other
Americans basically believing

831
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:14,790
Putin? Why did Trump believe
Putin more than our 11

832
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:15,780
intelligence agents?

833
00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:20,070
Adam Curry: I don't know. Do you
have a working theory? That's

834
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:23,910
Alex Wagner, MSNBC and she did a
whole Alex Wagner

835
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:27,000
John C Dvorak: and let me guess
it Alex Wagner say to Hillary

836
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,820
that while she was Secretary of
State that she managed to sell

837
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,650
20% of our uranium reserves to
the Russians. Are you trying to

838
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:37,830
be like sarcastic that kind of
like a good question, because

839
00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:41,100
that seems like pro Putin this?
No, I think Putin. Oh,

840
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,320
Adam Curry: let's let's listen
to the interview. It was

841
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,700
fascinating. Were you surprised
by remember? It is my belief

842
00:47:48,030 --> 00:47:52,230
that Hillary Clinton is doing
this to to get all the attention

843
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:55,740
on Trump focus everything on
Trump. Obviously, this is not

844
00:47:55,740 --> 00:47:59,910
going to sway any of the Maga
GOP, but it gets his name out

845
00:47:59,910 --> 00:48:02,310
there and people who sit at home
so I'm yeah, you know, you know,

846
00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:03,300
I'm thinking about this.

847
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:05,970
Unknown: Were you surprised by
their capitulation to Trump's

848
00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:07,080
whims on the border bill?

849
00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:12,180
I was surprised because it was a
really serious effort. The

850
00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:14,250
Republicans have done this
before. Yes,

851
00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:15,840
Adam Curry: you got it. You had
a question? Could

852
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,330
John C Dvorak: it be a serious
effort when Schumer himself

853
00:48:18,330 --> 00:48:19,110
voted? No.

854
00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:22,950
Unknown: When I was in the
Senate, we overwhelmingly passed

855
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:25,800
and immigration reform, you
know, in addition to security,

856
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,310
other provisions as well, we
pass it overwhelmingly in the

857
00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:30,210
Senate. Did

858
00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:32,670
Adam Curry: they was it? Was
there something Oh, it was in

859
00:48:32,670 --> 00:48:34,710
the Senate, so never pass? Okay,
then

860
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:39,000
Unknown: President George W.
Bush. So I would sign it and the

861
00:48:39,090 --> 00:48:41,610
Republican leadership in the
House would never bring it up

862
00:48:41,610 --> 00:48:45,030
for a vote. So I've said for
years, they'd rather have a

863
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:48,870
problem on the border than a
solution. But I thought this

864
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:53,310
time, given the seriousness of
the negotiation, the fact that

865
00:48:53,310 --> 00:48:58,050
it was only about security that,
frankly, the Democrats gave up a

866
00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:02,880
lot Yeah, to support the
Republican request for greater

867
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,380
security, which I favored
actually. And then at the last

868
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:10,710
minute to have Donald Trump tell
people who are independently

869
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:15,270
elected in their states, and
have an obligation to represent

870
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:18,900
their constituents and their
conscience that they had to stop

871
00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:23,190
trying to solve the problem and
go back to letting it fester for

872
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:24,270
his own political Did

873
00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:26,340
Adam Curry: you call Schumer you
must have called Schumer Hey

874
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:29,250
Chuck Hey Chuck man vote that we
have evidence

875
00:49:29,250 --> 00:49:32,100
John C Dvorak: that he called
anybody Of course, that's what's

876
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:32,730
Unknown: so beautiful.

877
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,650
This is was pretty shocking to
me. And like sure, right there's

878
00:49:37,650 --> 00:49:40,290
no it wasn't even a surprise was
just

879
00:49:40,290 --> 00:49:42,570
kind of like Trump's telling us
we can't do it because it's not

880
00:49:42,570 --> 00:49:44,430
good for him in an election
year. So we're not going to do

881
00:49:45,090 --> 00:49:47,610
Adam Curry: this is so good with
your your Chuck Schumer

882
00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:50,760
revelation. These are
instructions that Trump told me

883
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,570
not to do it, man.

884
00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:54,030
Unknown: There were a few
profiles and courage for a

885
00:49:54,030 --> 00:49:56,850
little while. People standing up
and saying what are you talking

886
00:49:56,850 --> 00:49:59,460
about? We want to solve this
problem. That's why we're sent

887
00:49:59,460 --> 00:50:03,750
to watching Did but then they
capitulated. And, honestly, it

888
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:11,190
shows a real danger that Trump
poses where it doesn't matter

889
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,970
whether you have a bipartisan
agreement to solve a problem or

890
00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:19,380
not. If he wants it for
political purposes, then he

891
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:23,280
tries to and succeeds in blowing
it up. That is what

892
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,390
authoritarians do. Yet another
reason why we can't let him

893
00:50:27,450 --> 00:50:30,120
anywhere near the White House
again. Yeah. Okay.

894
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:34,050
Adam Curry: So now I want to
play this clip. So I'm glad

895
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:34,830
she's back.

896
00:50:35,550 --> 00:50:38,190
John C Dvorak: She again, I
disagree with your thesis or

897
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:40,680
hypothesis or whatever you want
to call it. Now. It says that

898
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,890
we've got a bunch of people
redefining these words.

899
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,790
Adam Curry: You don't think
she's here to promote Trump? No.

900
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,950
John C Dvorak: Oh, she hates
Trump. I don't believe that for

901
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:52,710
a minute. I think that in fact,
the line that she has, which is

902
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:57,000
Trump's anti democratic is going
to ruin the democracy in there.

903
00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:02,130
I think she's an idiot, and he's
doing this. She is promoting

904
00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:05,100
Trump. I'm not arguing that.
Yeah, that's my I don't think

905
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:06,330
she means to.

906
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,780
Adam Curry: Okay, well, then
she's stupid. I'll take stupid

907
00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:13,350
for 25. And we'll take it to the
Supreme Court.

908
00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:16,200
Unknown: Are you optimistic
about what the Supreme Court

909
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,730
does next? I think

910
00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:19,500
on this particular issue,

911
00:51:20,190 --> 00:51:24,240
Adam Curry: this is about the
Colorado ballot. The Supreme

912
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,450
Court and I think they just
heard oral arguments I do.

913
00:51:27,870 --> 00:51:30,720
John C Dvorak: If you watch TV
today, they actually played him

914
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:35,880
on Fox. I got to hear most of
it. And it doesn't look good for

915
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,740
Colorado, that's for sure. No,

916
00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:41,400
Adam Curry: of course not. And
remember that this is based upon

917
00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:46,320
some guy who's a psychologist
who said, No, Trump was thinking

918
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,300
insurrection? Yes, I

919
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:53,340
John C Dvorak: know. It's some
guy, some guy was thinking your

920
00:51:53,340 --> 00:51:54,930
mind reader? Yes.

921
00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:57,300
Unknown: If I were the Supreme
Court, I wouldn't want to wade

922
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:01,080
into this. It's such a good
opinion. I would deny cert let

923
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,150
the opinion stand. Colorado

924
00:52:03,150 --> 00:52:05,520
Adam Curry: such a good opinion,
based upon the guy familiar with

925
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,350
the former President's thinking
it's

926
00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:10,020
Unknown: in line with previous
opinions. You know, when Trump

927
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:13,740
made the argument about, well,
this whole, you know, hamstring

928
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:17,310
future presidents Well, he's the
only one who has been in this

929
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:23,070
position. And he is the only one
who has claimed such broad

930
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:27,630
blanket immunity. And we know
what his real thoughts are you

931
00:52:27,630 --> 00:52:28,950
remember, I could shoot
somebody?

932
00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:31,950
Adam Curry: No, no, wait, wait,
this is important. Because now

933
00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:37,590
now, now she gets into the
persuasive arguments that are

934
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:40,500
based on other things that Trump
said

935
00:52:40,590 --> 00:52:45,090
Unknown: broad blanket immunity.
And we know what his real

936
00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:48,000
thoughts are. Remember, I could
shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue,

937
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,930
my supporters wouldn't care. He
thinks that he should be above

938
00:52:51,930 --> 00:52:56,280
the law, that he should be able
to manipulate the law. The last

939
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,750
time I checked, despite Trump
and his supporters efforts to

940
00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:06,840
undermine this. We were a nation
based on the rule of law, not on

941
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:11,250
the rule of individual men, the
way that Trump keeps trying to

942
00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:11,670
claim

943
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:16,530
Adam Curry: all right, did Trump
ever say, to your knowledge that

944
00:53:16,530 --> 00:53:20,190
he was going to use SEAL Team
Six to kill his political

945
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:20,790
enemies?

946
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:24,300
John C Dvorak: I can't find any
reference to it where I are. I

947
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:25,620
can't find a clip. No,

948
00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:29,490
Adam Curry: because it wasn't
him. It wasn't him that said

949
00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:30,120
this. I mean, as

950
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,850
Unknown: someone who ran for the
presidency and one popular vote,

951
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,360
is it like can you even wrap
your head around arguing in

952
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,210
court that you should be able to
kill your assassinate your

953
00:53:39,210 --> 00:53:42,270
political enemies using SEAL
Team Six? I mean, how did that

954
00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:43,800
that argument land

955
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,750
with you? Well, you know, he
says, so many outrageous things.

956
00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:52,020
Yeah, that I think a lot of
people have stopped listening,

957
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,700
and they shouldn't, they should
pay very careful attention to

958
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:57,720
what Trump says.

959
00:53:57,780 --> 00:54:01,230
Adam Curry: Now, just to remind
ourselves where this was used.

960
00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:05,940
We go to Stephen Colbert, who
for some unbelievable reason has

961
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:07,500
Joy read on the show.

962
00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:10,950
Unknown: It looks like you know,
all the safe money is on a Biden

963
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:17,340
Trump rematch here. Yeah.
Besides the deja vu, yes, what

964
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:20,700
it what it what is that like for
you? Because some people aren't

965
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:25,440
sure how to approach this
differently. This time. What is

966
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,840
your approach to this election?
anything different than 2020?

967
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:28,380
You know,

968
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,760
the difference between that
election and this one is that it

969
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,250
was an up in the air question.

970
00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:37,710
It was not an up in the air
question. I should say in the

971
00:54:37,710 --> 00:54:41,310
previous election, whether the
President of the United States

972
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:44,550
could use SEAL Team Six to kill
his political opponents.

973
00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:46,950
So it's a little different out
right like we it's a different

974
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:50,520
Trump. Well, that was the
argument. Lawyers made Yeah,

975
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,060
Adam Curry: his lawyers made
that argument. He never said

976
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:59,100
that. It was part of an argument
argumentation. So we go back to

977
00:54:59,100 --> 00:54:59,970
Hillary because

978
00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:04,410
Unknown: If they do, they can
see the linkage between what he

979
00:55:04,410 --> 00:55:09,060
says and what he tries to do. In
his first term. On many

980
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:12,330
occasions, he was reined in and
even stopped by the people

981
00:55:12,330 --> 00:55:15,990
around him because there were
people who he put into important

982
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:19,050
positions, who had served in
government under prior

983
00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:22,110
Republican presidents who
understood the rule of law, who

984
00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:25,890
understood the constitutional
system and so much more. They

985
00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:30,360
were able to stop him. He will
now fill those positions, if

986
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:34,110
ever given a chance, which I
hope never happens with people

987
00:55:34,140 --> 00:55:34,800
who are

988
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,930
Adam Curry: I love how he says
he will now fill those

989
00:55:36,930 --> 00:55:39,000
positions, which I hope never
happens

990
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:42,750
Unknown: to stop him. He will
now fill those positions. She

991
00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:44,910
Adam Curry: knows he's gonna
win. There it is. She knows it

992
00:55:44,910 --> 00:55:48,150
already. It's it's a foregone
conclusion in her mind,

993
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:49,890
Unknown: she will now fill those

994
00:55:49,890 --> 00:55:52,620
John C Dvorak: positions. He's
going to win doesn't mean she

995
00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:53,370
wants him to

996
00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:56,400
Adam Curry: win. No, but that's
why she says he will now fill

997
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,130
those positions. And then she
says, which we hope will never

998
00:55:59,130 --> 00:55:59,610
have she

999
00:55:59,610 --> 00:56:02,820
John C Dvorak: will. No, no, I
agree that the writing's on the

1000
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:03,840
wall. Yes,

1001
00:56:03,870 --> 00:56:05,370
Adam Curry: let's just finish
it. 30

1002
00:56:05,370 --> 00:56:08,670
Unknown: seconds, she will now
fill those positions, if ever

1003
00:56:08,670 --> 00:56:12,240
given a chance, which I hope
never happens with people who

1004
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:16,860
are totally members of his cult.
And I don't say that lightly or

1005
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:20,070
as a throwaway line. Because
when I look at people who I

1006
00:56:20,070 --> 00:56:25,050
know, were horrified by January
6, who are Republicans in the

1007
00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:29,190
House and the Senate, who have
come around to dismissing it to

1008
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:33,870
discounting the horror that they
themselves felt, as they, you

1009
00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:39,330
know, put put themselves under
desks as they ran down hallways

1010
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:43,770
as they tried to escape the mob
coming at them. There is

1011
00:56:43,770 --> 00:56:48,150
something about Trump's hold on
the Republican Party that is

1012
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:49,260
frightening. It's

1013
00:56:49,290 --> 00:56:52,590
Adam Curry: frightening. Thunder
bolts of lightning

1014
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,680
John C Dvorak: players that clip
this is the immunity. That was

1015
00:56:58,830 --> 00:57:02,400
the thing about shooting your
political opponents came out of

1016
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,350
the immunity argument. Yes. This
is from Democracy Now without

1017
00:57:07,350 --> 00:57:08,460
Amy Goodman. Okay,

1018
00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:11,640
Adam Curry: no, no, no warning,
no warning. Thank you no

1019
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,620
warning, no warning the Trump

1020
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:14,640
John C Dvorak: immune kicker

1021
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,490
Unknown: in its ruling. The
three judge panel of the US

1022
00:57:17,490 --> 00:57:21,030
Court of Appeals for the DC
Circuit wrote, quote, We cannot

1023
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:23,790
accept former President Trump's
claim that a president has

1024
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:27,270
unbounded authority to commit
crimes that would neutralize the

1025
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:30,720
most fundamental check on
executive power, the recognition

1026
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,620
and implementation of election
results. The judges went on to

1027
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:37,710
write quote, nor can we sanction
his apparent contention that the

1028
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:41,280
executive has carte blanche to
violate the rights of individual

1029
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,000
citizens to vote and to have
their votes count. Trump has

1030
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,940
vowed to appeal the ruling
possibly to the Supreme Court.

1031
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,540
during oral arguments last
month, Trump's legal team

1032
00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:54,480
claimed the former president
should have full immunity to do

1033
00:57:54,510 --> 00:57:58,080
anything, even assassinate
political opponents.

1034
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:05,040
John C Dvorak: Let's keep that
in play. Yes.

1035
00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:09,600
Adam Curry: Well, so there is
persuasion happening everywhere.

1036
00:58:09,810 --> 00:58:14,790
And I think Trump is full on
he's got everybody out there,

1037
00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:18,630
including ice cube. And

1038
00:58:20,010 --> 00:58:21,810
Unknown: yes, yeah.

1039
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,360
Adam Curry: And the reason why I
say ice cube because I saw your

1040
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,990
clips and I'm pretty sure I know
what it's about. Your rappers

1041
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:31,140
lament. I just, I just want to
save everyone from

1042
00:58:31,140 --> 00:58:37,440
embarrassment. We talked about
this 12 years ago. This story,

1043
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,270
that hip hop, there was a secret
music meeting. And the people

1044
00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:47,250
who own the labels also own the
prisons, we're going to make hip

1045
00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:51,210
hop music we're going to make
that gangster rap. So we put all

1046
00:58:51,210 --> 00:58:52,560
the black people in jail,

1047
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:55,350
John C Dvorak: the private jail
so they can make money.

1048
00:58:55,740 --> 00:58:57,210
Adam Curry: This is bull crap

1049
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:58,290
Unknown: is

1050
00:58:58,290 --> 00:59:03,270
Adam Curry: not true. And Ice
Cube repeated this. This is out

1051
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:06,150
there. People are sending me
this. I mean, I'm if you want to

1052
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:08,520
play some of these clips, I'm
happy to but we have we have

1053
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:13,020
read this letter from this
anonymous music industry

1054
00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:17,490
executive verbatim on this show.
12 years ago, it's been around

1055
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:21,540
forever. I've talked about it
with Moe, there's no evidence of

1056
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:24,720
this. There's no evidence of
these people owning the private

1057
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,790
prisons. What there's evidence
of is that this is a this is to

1058
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:34,950
rile up black Americans against
Joe Biden. For one reason and

1059
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:38,220
one reason only listen to the
important date here, say

1060
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:43,470
Unknown: red music. Same people
who own the labels on the

1061
00:59:43,470 --> 00:59:49,830
prisons. So literally the same
people literally the same people

1062
00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:56,430
who own the labels on private
prisons. The records that come

1063
00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:56,910
out

1064
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:06,450
are really geared to push people
towards their prison industry,

1065
01:00:06,750 --> 01:00:10,350
but they didn't make you write
those lyrics. It's not about

1066
01:00:10,350 --> 01:00:14,970
making. It's not about making
somebody write the lyrics. It's

1067
01:00:14,970 --> 01:00:15,720
about

1068
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:22,680
being near as guardrails to make
sure certain songs make it

1069
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:28,650
through and certain songs don't.
This This to me is in some way,

1070
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:34,350
you know, some social
engineering going on here to to

1071
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:37,590
make sure those prisons stay
full

1072
01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:40,890
do they actually like go Monday,
Tuesday go to work as a record

1073
01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:43,650
company executive and Wednesday
through Friday? Go work on

1074
01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:44,640
prisons now.

1075
01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:47,670
No. Okay. So if of course
they're not, they're not

1076
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:51,510
actually running the labels,
they have to knows they have

1077
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:54,750
financial interests, they have
financial IceCube

1078
01:00:54,750 --> 01:00:59,010
Adam Curry: is not stupid keys
on the team. This happened this,

1079
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,870
this so called secret meeting
happened in 1991. And what

1080
01:01:03,870 --> 01:01:07,440
happened? This is what you will
hear next? Is it because this is

1081
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,710
going to be taken as fact? Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. There was a

1082
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:15,690
secret meeting and this guy was
there. And, and it was in 1991.

1083
01:01:15,690 --> 01:01:18,600
It was to get all the black
people all riled up and get him

1084
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,940
to commit crimes and go to jail.
And what happened in 1992? The

1085
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:29,310
Biden crime bill, you watch
that's next. This is a psyop.

1086
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,110
It's an actual up to get black
people to hate Joe Biden to

1087
01:01:34,110 --> 01:01:37,620
remind them of the 1992 crime
bill.

1088
01:01:39,420 --> 01:01:44,970
John C Dvorak: Well, you've
proved my point. Yeah, that's

1089
01:01:44,970 --> 01:01:48,180
exactly what's going on in the
crime bill thing which they

1090
01:01:48,180 --> 01:01:52,470
tried to bring out in the first
election and 2020 was a huge

1091
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:56,310
flop. Yep. They couldn't get it
to take get hold, take hold,

1092
01:01:56,310 --> 01:01:59,340
couldn't get it. I mean, they
could do a little bit of it

1093
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:03,480
during the Hillary election
because she had called black

1094
01:02:05,070 --> 01:02:08,700
criminals. I forgot if it was
there wasn't a word vermin, but

1095
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:13,170
was some horrible phrase that
she had, I should know this.

1096
01:02:13,650 --> 01:02:19,890
Black criminals back in the day.
super predators, super predators

1097
01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:24,120
shredded or super predators. I
remember that. Yes. So but that

1098
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,390
didn't get catch either. But
there it is. possible that I

1099
01:02:27,390 --> 01:02:27,780
have her

1100
01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:31,110
Unknown: not just gangs of kids
anymore. They are often the

1101
01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:34,590
kinds of kids that are called
super predators, no conscience,

1102
01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:37,890
no empathy. We can talk about
why they ended up that way. But

1103
01:02:37,890 --> 01:02:39,660
first, we have to bring them to
heel.

1104
01:02:40,740 --> 01:02:46,740
Adam Curry: Bring him bring him.
Yeah. Yeah. So this is so

1105
01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:49,050
John C Dvorak: the Democrats
have got these issues, but

1106
01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:53,610
they've been able to keep them
under wraps. But using this as a

1107
01:02:53,610 --> 01:02:58,470
two pronged approach, which is
to re introduce the gangster rap

1108
01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:02,640
as a mechanism created for the
private prisons. Yep. And then

1109
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:08,460
follow it up with the crime
bill. And the commentary that

1110
01:03:08,460 --> 01:03:11,760
Joe had back in the day, which
he doesn't remember. I'm sure

1111
01:03:11,790 --> 01:03:15,870
Adam Curry: you know, but it was
good. It was good. Be

1112
01:03:15,870 --> 01:03:19,500
John C Dvorak: quite just a good
move. Yeah. Okay. Ice

1113
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,860
Adam Curry: cubes on the team.
There's no doubt. I mean, he

1114
01:03:22,860 --> 01:03:28,980
knows he was making music in the
90s. Oh, come on ice cube. Do

1115
01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:31,800
you know that you know, oh, no,
they wouldn't. They wouldn't put

1116
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,110
my records out unless it was
about killing other black men.

1117
01:03:34,110 --> 01:03:40,830
No, Mo No. No. I mean, it's true
today that the record labels

1118
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,930
encouraged drill rap, of course,
on sub labels, so they can make

1119
01:03:45,930 --> 01:03:49,530
money and you know, then make it
go big and push the Spotify

1120
01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:54,660
algos. That's true. But this
view I'm, we're just, they may

1121
01:03:54,660 --> 01:03:57,930
flop but I think it's I think
it's very strong because it came

1122
01:03:57,930 --> 01:04:01,680
to you. It's been coming to me
from and it's like, Hey, did you

1123
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,590
hear about this up? We're on
MTV, then when did you know

1124
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:11,670
about this meeting? To no fool?
No. Of course not. The music

1125
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:15,840
business is bad, but they're not
that bad. That they're also

1126
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,040
running commercial prisons. No.
I was the same people. We had a

1127
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,420
meeting. We had to sign a piece
of paper. No, it

1128
01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:28,260
John C Dvorak: was about a piece
of paper story which creates

1129
01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:32,040
this problem is the one guy
that's floating around now

1130
01:04:32,970 --> 01:04:37,260
within the clips that I have. He
hasn't been in the music

1131
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:39,720
business for a while that piece
of paper is valid because all it

1132
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,180
says in the piece of paper is
that if you reveal this, you're

1133
01:04:42,180 --> 01:04:46,710
gonna get fired. Right? But
you're not even working for that

1134
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:50,460
same company. You get fired from
what the minute you quit that

1135
01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:52,260
job. You should go public. Yeah.

1136
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,430
Adam Curry: But there's no one
identified as the guy who wrote

1137
01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:59,520
that. Who wrote that up. I mean,
that that thing just been out

1138
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,590
there. forever, as I said,
12 1214 years that that story

1139
01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:08,340
has been around. And we and we,
I think I read Yeah, we read it

1140
01:05:08,340 --> 01:05:14,580
verbatim on the show. So, but
that, so there's a lot of a lot

1141
01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:19,920
of things at work here. And then
we have, we have war, trying to

1142
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:26,010
make some war. And just to show
you how, however,

1143
01:05:26,010 --> 01:05:29,850
John C Dvorak: before you
venture off to the war, that

1144
01:05:29,850 --> 01:05:32,430
we're going to pass over the
three by three Oh, well, let's

1145
01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:32,580
do

1146
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,710
Unknown: a three by three.

1147
01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:37,230
Adam Curry: Five JC

1148
01:05:38,310 --> 01:05:39,810
Unknown: comparing stories from
a

1149
01:05:45,060 --> 01:05:46,890
Adam Curry: never ending three
by three where we take a look at

1150
01:05:46,890 --> 01:05:49,410
the headlines from the big news
networks. Do they get NAT

1151
01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:51,930
packages? Not pops? John has it?
Oh,

1152
01:05:51,930 --> 01:05:54,420
John C Dvorak: this is the one
this is about Trump's getting

1153
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,270
where they said now you didn't
get this kind of immunity you're

1154
01:05:57,270 --> 01:06:01,170
looking for okay. But this is
the appeals court. Yeah, that

1155
01:06:01,170 --> 01:06:03,570
does it. So it's gonna go to the
Supreme Court. It's not over

1156
01:06:03,570 --> 01:06:07,320
yet. And they got it. They can't
let this stand because in fact,

1157
01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:08,220
immunity,

1158
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:12,660
Adam Curry: immunity from
insurrection, just immunity in

1159
01:06:12,660 --> 01:06:15,180
general immunity from what?
immunity

1160
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:17,670
John C Dvorak: from anything if
you're if you commit a crime in

1161
01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:22,470
office, you're immune from
prosecution, but you're not

1162
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:26,610
immune from impeachment. The
remedy because the President has

1163
01:06:26,610 --> 01:06:29,580
to do all kinds of things that
could be seen from the outside

1164
01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:33,420
world is very illegal. It's very
like, like killing Americans

1165
01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:34,410
with drones.

1166
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,470
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks. Thanks.
Thanks, Obama,

1167
01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:41,490
John C Dvorak: and eating dogs,
which Obama did. That could be

1168
01:06:41,490 --> 01:06:48,060
illegal in some states. So so he
has to maintain it. Because if

1169
01:06:48,060 --> 01:06:53,310
this falls through, Obama could
be an every president probably

1170
01:06:53,310 --> 01:06:55,740
and this is what happens in
Europe and elsewhere, where they

1171
01:06:55,740 --> 01:06:59,760
don't have this kind of
immunity. The guy gets you taken

1172
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,490
out of office and the guy comes
in, they immediately go after

1173
01:07:02,490 --> 01:07:04,020
the old guy. They arrest him.

1174
01:07:04,050 --> 01:07:05,880
Adam Curry: I like it wasn't
Milosevic.

1175
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,790
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
none. Not only him, but

1176
01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:12,090
everybody in South America.
Yeah. Who's ever been a leader

1177
01:07:12,090 --> 01:07:16,320
there has been arrested there
was affected leader, current

1178
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:21,360
leader of Brazil was got elected
after being in prison. I mean,

1179
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,240
it's just unbelievable. So you
can't you have to have this kind

1180
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,300
of thing. And then if if it goes
too far, if the guy's really a

1181
01:07:29,550 --> 01:07:32,820
political opponent, he gets
impeached, you impeach him, and

1182
01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:36,420
it's not that hard to do. So
that's what you're supposed to

1183
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:41,880
do. So they and and I would say
George Bush could be a war

1184
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,260
criminal. Couldn't be

1185
01:07:44,910 --> 01:07:46,050
Unknown: good. No problem.

1186
01:07:47,340 --> 01:07:49,380
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with that. So but it got

1187
01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:53,160
rejected at the lower courts.
It's gonna go up at the point of

1188
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,650
the three by threes to compare
the coverage. Let's start with

1189
01:07:55,650 --> 01:07:57,450
ABC and Pierre Thomas site

1190
01:07:57,450 --> 01:08:00,090
Unknown: in a scathing opinion
of federal appeals court

1191
01:08:00,090 --> 01:08:03,750
rejecting Donald Trump's claims
he has complete immunity from

1192
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:07,710
prosecution for anything he did
as president, including his

1193
01:08:07,710 --> 01:08:11,460
efforts to overturn the 2020
election. The three judge panel

1194
01:08:11,460 --> 01:08:14,610
unanimously ruling former
President Trump has become

1195
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:17,970
citizen Trump, any executive
immunity that may have protected

1196
01:08:17,970 --> 01:08:21,600
him while he served as president
no longer protects him against

1197
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,630
this prosecution. We cannot
accept that the office of the

1198
01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:29,040
presidency places its former
occupants above the law for all

1199
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,610
time thereafter. Trump claims he
cannot be tried for trying to

1200
01:08:32,610 --> 01:08:36,540
overturn the election and his
actions leading up to January 6,

1201
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,040
the president has to have
immunity in court in January.

1202
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,340
The judge is deeply skeptical,
asking if a president could

1203
01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:47,640
order the assassination of his
opponent and get away with it.

1204
01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:50,880
Trump's lawyer arguing and
President can't be charged

1205
01:08:50,970 --> 01:08:54,000
unless he is first impeached and
convicted by Congress.

1206
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:57,840
President who ordered SEAL Team
steps to assassinate a political

1207
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,830
rival, who was not impeached
he'd be subject to criminal

1208
01:09:01,830 --> 01:09:06,390
prosecution if he were impeached
and convicted. First to answer

1209
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:06,960
is.

1210
01:09:08,069 --> 01:09:11,489
Today the court was blunt. We
cannot accept former President

1211
01:09:11,489 --> 01:09:15,059
Trump's claim that the President
has unbounded authority to

1212
01:09:15,059 --> 01:09:19,019
commit crimes to judges also
taking aim at the serious nature

1213
01:09:19,019 --> 01:09:22,499
of the charges. Trump faces
writing former President Trump's

1214
01:09:22,529 --> 01:09:26,219
alleged efforts to remain in
power despite losing the 2020

1215
01:09:26,219 --> 01:09:30,149
election where it proven an
unprecedented assault on the

1216
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:33,329
structure of our government.
Trump isn't until Monday to

1217
01:09:33,329 --> 01:09:36,479
appeal to the Supreme Court if
the High Court declines the

1218
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,389
appeal. The judge overseeing the
case could set a new trial date

1219
01:09:39,389 --> 01:09:42,479
soon. But if the Supreme Court
decides to consider the matter,

1220
01:09:42,629 --> 01:09:46,289
all bets are off David. There
could be lengthy delays I'm

1221
01:09:46,290 --> 01:09:49,230
Adam Curry: very excited to see
how NBC and CBS handled this Do

1222
01:09:49,230 --> 01:09:53,370
they have the same quote the
same SEAL Team Six quote bullet

1223
01:09:53,370 --> 01:09:55,770
John C Dvorak: be the thing
about you know you can shoot

1224
01:09:55,770 --> 01:09:59,370
your political opponents still
cracks me up is great because

1225
01:09:59,370 --> 01:10:01,980
they keep us To get in
everyone's using it as leverage

1226
01:10:01,980 --> 01:10:06,180
because he wants to be dictator
from day one owner only on day

1227
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:09,090
one, but no, no, but that's not
the way it's being presented

1228
01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:13,770
from day one from day one. Yes.
Not only on day one. Okay, let's

1229
01:10:13,770 --> 01:10:15,990
go to that was what ABC is going
to NBC

1230
01:10:16,020 --> 01:10:19,560
Unknown: FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD
TRUMP today dubbed citizen Trump

1231
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,220
by a three judge panel in
Washington ruling, Mr. Trump is

1232
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:27,300
not immune from prosecution, the
court saying we cannot accept

1233
01:10:27,300 --> 01:10:30,270
that the office of the
presidency places its former

1234
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:33,690
occupants above the law for all
time thereafter.

1235
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:37,980
Adam Curry: But wait a minute.
He was president When? When?

1236
01:10:38,010 --> 01:10:41,640
Yeah, when this took place. So
they're they're confusing the

1237
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,070
matter. They're arguing about
something which of course is

1238
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:44,670
true. Well,

1239
01:10:46,050 --> 01:10:47,460
John C Dvorak: that's not what
they argued in court.

1240
01:10:48,780 --> 01:10:50,910
Adam Curry: Arguing that Yeah,
well, that. Well, they're making

1241
01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:51,690
it make it

1242
01:10:51,690 --> 01:10:54,030
John C Dvorak: appear as though
okay, I was present. So now I

1243
01:10:54,030 --> 01:10:58,110
can ever they're on mute.
Everything. Yeah, that's not

1244
01:10:58,110 --> 01:11:00,960
what the case is about. But
that's what the network interest

1245
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,480
wants you to think. Yeah, it's
not true.

1246
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:06,690
Unknown: No, the Trump campaign
saying he'll appeal the decision

1247
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,600
like how they keep saying
citizen Trump. Trump himself

1248
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,080
bemoaning the ruling saying, oh,
a President of the United States

1249
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:17,460
have full immunity in order to
properly function and do what he

1250
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:17,700
should

1251
01:11:17,700 --> 01:11:20,250
Adam Curry: have used our word
lamenting, but then but they

1252
01:11:20,250 --> 01:11:23,280
said bemoaning the moon itself
bemoaning

1253
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,250
Unknown: the ruling saying a
President of the United States

1254
01:11:26,250 --> 01:11:30,330
must have full immunity in order
to properly function and do what

1255
01:11:30,330 --> 01:11:33,540
has to be done for the good of
our country. Special Counsel

1256
01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:36,840
Jack Smith charged Mr. Trump
last summer for his efforts to

1257
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,260
reverse the 2020 election
results and stop the peaceful

1258
01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:41,430
transfer of power.

1259
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,760
We will never give up. We will
never concede Mr.

1260
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,730
Trump's legal team has been
trying to get the charges tossed

1261
01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:51,390
out for months, arguing he
should be completely immune from

1262
01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:56,400
prosecution for any acts he took
as president. The court today

1263
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,450
unpersuaded saying we cannot
accept former President Trump's

1264
01:12:00,450 --> 01:12:04,140
claim that a president has
unbounded authority to commit

1265
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:07,830
crimes that would neutralize the
most fundamental check on

1266
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:11,940
executive power. The recognition
and implementation of election

1267
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:15,060
results the Trump campaign
capitalizing on the court's

1268
01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:17,880
decision today with a
fundraising plea, as a

1269
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,730
Republican front runner
frequently uses his legal

1270
01:12:20,730 --> 01:12:23,970
setbacks as fuel for his latest
White House bid.

1271
01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:27,090
If you have a president that
doesn't have immunity, he's

1272
01:12:27,090 --> 01:12:29,850
never going to be free to do
anything because the opposing

1273
01:12:29,850 --> 01:12:32,580
party will always indict him as
soon as he leaves the White

1274
01:12:32,580 --> 01:12:33,120
House with

1275
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,020
today's ruling Mr. Trump's only
hope at avoiding trial is for

1276
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:40,740
the Supreme Court to find he is
immune, which would have major

1277
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:44,430
implications in the other legal
cases he faces as well. What are

1278
01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:45,360
the next steps? What's

1279
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,320
the timeline ahead?

1280
01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:49,440
Well, that's where the court
today said Mr. Trump has just

1281
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,890
until Monday to appeal this to
the US Supreme Court. Now, it's

1282
01:12:52,890 --> 01:12:55,950
unclear if the justices There
will even take up the case. But

1283
01:12:55,950 --> 01:13:00,030
if they choose not to this trial
could happen as early as this

1284
01:13:00,030 --> 01:13:00,750
summer less right.

1285
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:02,760
Adam Curry: So what do you
think?

1286
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:05,490
John C Dvorak: I mean, well,
first of all, NBC did not drop

1287
01:13:05,490 --> 01:13:09,060
the bomb. They didn't put it in
their shooting, your CEO

1288
01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:12,630
cynically quoted what's wrong
with them? Sorry,

1289
01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:14,730
Adam Curry: what's wrong with
them? That's the best.

1290
01:13:14,730 --> 01:13:17,340
John C Dvorak: That's the best I
know. And NBC is the most anti

1291
01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:19,140
Trump of the network. They had
it

1292
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:21,810
Adam Curry: on MSNBC with
Hillary let her put it in there.

1293
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,330
They should have put it in. So

1294
01:13:24,330 --> 01:13:26,910
John C Dvorak: I'm baffled by
that particular coverage report.

1295
01:13:26,910 --> 01:13:30,300
It was a very it was light. It
was lightweight. Let's go to CBS

1296
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:33,150
and see what Jan Crawford SSA
the

1297
01:13:33,150 --> 01:13:35,580
Unknown: ruling by the
influential DC based federal

1298
01:13:35,580 --> 01:13:39,180
appeals court was a stern rebuke
of the former president sweeping

1299
01:13:39,180 --> 01:13:42,780
claims about immunity from
prosecution with a court saying

1300
01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:46,530
the former president must face
trial for efforts to subvert the

1301
01:13:46,530 --> 01:13:50,910
2020 election. For the purpose
of this criminal case former

1302
01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:53,880
President Trump has become
citizen Trump with all the

1303
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,660
defenses of any other criminal
defendant in court and on the

1304
01:13:57,660 --> 01:14:01,080
campaign trail. Donald Trump
repeatedly says he can't be

1305
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,470
prosecuted for his actions as
president, a president

1306
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:07,620
has to be given immunity and
this has nothing to do with me.

1307
01:14:07,860 --> 01:14:11,430
But the three judge panel of two
Democratic appointees and one

1308
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:15,900
Republican was unanimous and
emphatic any executive immunity

1309
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:18,930
that may have protected him
while he served as president no

1310
01:14:18,930 --> 01:14:23,100
longer protects him against this
prosecution. Well, the bounds of

1311
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:26,730
Trump's immunity arguments
became clear last month while he

1312
01:14:26,730 --> 01:14:30,240
sat in the front row of a packed
courtroom, one of the judges

1313
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,270
presented his lawyer with a
dramatic hypothetical.

1314
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,790
Yes, no, yes or no question.
Could a president who ordered

1315
01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:42,150
steel team sets to assassinate a
political rival who was not

1316
01:14:42,150 --> 01:14:46,890
impeached he'd be subject to
criminal prosecution if he were

1317
01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:48,900
impeached and convicted first.
Since

1318
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:52,140
the Senate declined to convict
Trump. That argument would mean

1319
01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:55,110
Special Counsel Jack Smith could
and you

1320
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,290
John C Dvorak: know, I think
about it, it was actually the

1321
01:14:58,290 --> 01:15:01,740
judge who came up with the high
pathetical Not to Trump's

1322
01:15:01,740 --> 01:15:02,460
lawyers.

1323
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,390
Adam Curry: I'm gonna listen to
it again. It is everybody says

1324
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:09,150
John C Dvorak: it's Trump's
lawyers. A hypothetical.

1325
01:15:09,180 --> 01:15:10,140
Adam Curry: Let me listen to me
with

1326
01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:13,650
Unknown: a dramatic
hypothetical. While he sat in

1327
01:15:13,650 --> 01:15:16,590
the front row of a packed
courtroom, one of the judges

1328
01:15:16,590 --> 01:15:19,710
present his lawyer with a
dramatic hypothetical.

1329
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:24,810
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, wow. Not
only Trump not said someone who

1330
01:15:24,810 --> 01:15:25,860
hates Trump said it.

1331
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,830
Unknown: That's great. Yes, no,
yes or no question. Could a

1332
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:35,400
president who ordered SEAL team
sets to assassinate a political

1333
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,360
rival who was not impeached?
He'd be subject to criminal

1334
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,170
prosecution.

1335
01:15:40,290 --> 01:15:43,110
Adam Curry: You should never
answer a hypothetical if he were

1336
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:44,610
impeached and convicted first.

1337
01:15:44,820 --> 01:15:47,460
Unknown: Since the Senate
declined to convict Trump. That

1338
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:50,430
argument would mean Special
Counsel Jack Smith couldn't

1339
01:15:50,430 --> 01:15:53,910
either and the appeals court
flatly rejected it. So

1340
01:15:54,930 --> 01:15:57,690
Adam Curry: that was clearly a
talking point that a lot of

1341
01:15:57,690 --> 01:16:02,730
people agreed upon. They they
must have had a meeting about

1342
01:16:02,730 --> 01:16:06,330
that. Oh, Judge, you've got to
ask this question. We will all

1343
01:16:06,330 --> 01:16:07,650
use it for years.

1344
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:11,370
Unknown: And Jan Crawford is
here with us. And so a CBS News

1345
01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:13,740
Chief Election campaign
correspondent Robert Kosta, good

1346
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:16,320
to have both of you here for
more context and analysis. So

1347
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,780
Jim, this is not the end of
this, right? Oh, no, it's

1348
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:21,870
not. I mean, he can ask the full
court of appeals to reconsider

1349
01:16:21,870 --> 01:16:24,570
this or he can skip that step
and just go straight to the

1350
01:16:24,570 --> 01:16:27,720
Supreme Court. But having lost
it every tournament, I think

1351
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,560
that is a long shot. I don't see
how he's going to get five votes

1352
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,040
from the Supreme Court if they
decide to take up this case. And

1353
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,770
if they do, I still think we're
looking at a trial possibly late

1354
01:16:37,770 --> 01:16:40,350
spring or early summer. Oh,

1355
01:16:40,380 --> 01:16:43,170
Adam Curry: well, I think the
Supreme Court will punt on this

1356
01:16:43,170 --> 01:16:46,440
one. They don't want to deal
with that.

1357
01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:50,040
John C Dvorak: I disagree. You
think they're gonna take it? I

1358
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,980
think they'll take it. But it'll
go on the docket. They won't be

1359
01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:55,050
purged for forever.

1360
01:16:55,140 --> 01:16:57,990
Adam Curry: No, but it would be
more fun because during the

1361
01:16:57,990 --> 01:17:02,850
summer months, we need some TV
action. Everything's on hiatus.

1362
01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:04,710
I'm just thinking in from it
logic,

1363
01:17:04,710 --> 01:17:06,540
John C Dvorak: but nobody's
watching TV during the summer.

1364
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:07,200
That's the prompt

1365
01:17:07,230 --> 01:17:10,230
Adam Curry: that will we'll have
something to watch will is free

1366
01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:16,080
content. Free. All right. Yes,
it

1367
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,110
John C Dvorak: was CBC Canada
Canada's they got a report.

1368
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:26,400
Unknown: For what happened on
January 6, when a mob stormed

1369
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,150
the US Capitol to overturn the
2020 presidential election

1370
01:17:30,150 --> 01:17:35,340
results. Donald Trump can face
prosecution, that according to a

1371
01:17:35,340 --> 01:17:39,210
unanimous and scathing ruling
from a three judge federal

1372
01:17:39,210 --> 01:17:43,290
appeals panel, they wrote We
cannot accept former President

1373
01:17:43,290 --> 01:17:46,950
Donald Trump's claim that a
president has unbounded

1374
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:51,060
authority to commit crimes. It's
a total rejection of Trump's

1375
01:17:51,060 --> 01:17:54,930
claims that his actions on that
day are protected by

1376
01:17:54,930 --> 01:17:58,980
presidential immunity on social
media. Trump railed against the

1377
01:17:58,980 --> 01:18:03,000
ruling calling it dangerous. He
wrote, a President of the United

1378
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,290
States must have full immunity
in order to properly function

1379
01:18:07,530 --> 01:18:10,830
during proceedings. That line of
argument was repeatedly

1380
01:18:10,830 --> 01:18:14,460
challenged by the three judge
panel, including judge Karen

1381
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:15,600
luxcraft Henderson.

1382
01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:21,480
I think it's paradoxical to say
that his constitutional duty to

1383
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:26,010
take care that the laws be
faithfully executed allows him

1384
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:29,040
to violate criminal laws.

1385
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:33,060
Today's ruling is unprecedented
largely because no former

1386
01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:37,230
American president has ever
faced criminal charges. In

1387
01:18:37,230 --> 01:18:40,740
Washington. Trump's supporters
once again blame the former

1388
01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:44,820
president's legal troubles on
political bias. Speaker of the

1389
01:18:44,820 --> 01:18:46,320
House, Mike Johnson,

1390
01:18:46,380 --> 01:18:48,360
Adam Curry: I believe that
they've been after President

1391
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,150
Trump for partisan political
purposes. I think that's obvious

1392
01:18:51,150 --> 01:18:53,610
and and we call it law fair. And
I think there's no other way to

1393
01:18:53,610 --> 01:18:54,090
describe

1394
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,480
Unknown: from Trump loyalist
Representative Matt Gaetz.

1395
01:18:57,510 --> 01:19:01,080
We are here today to
authoritatively express that

1396
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,260
President Trump did not commit
an insurrection. Trump's

1397
01:19:04,260 --> 01:19:07,890
team has until February 12, to
file an appeal to the Supreme

1398
01:19:07,890 --> 01:19:11,580
Court and what the court decides
could have an effect on whether

1399
01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:15,600
the issue is settled before or
after the November election.

1400
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:21,540
Adam Curry: The sad thing about
this is is it has destroyed all

1401
01:19:21,540 --> 01:19:25,500
faith in the American justice
system. I would hate to be sued.

1402
01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:29,730
I'd hate to be charged for
anything. You've got no chance.

1403
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:37,740
It's all corrupt. I'm not Am I
Am I stating the obvious here?

1404
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,440
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if it's as bad as you make

1405
01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:44,700
it out to be. Well, yeah, I
would say at the highest levels.

1406
01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:48,420
Yes. Yeah. But not necessarily
locally.

1407
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,440
Adam Curry: By him unless some
Nut Job says You raped her at

1408
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:57,060
Bergdorf Goodman and they and
they say, Well, you know you

1409
01:19:57,060 --> 01:20:02,640
didn't rape her, but you defamed
her At $3 million $3

1410
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:03,600
John C Dvorak: million, you

1411
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,870
Adam Curry: know, it's like, no,
I think there's loss. Well, the

1412
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:07,530
real problem

1413
01:20:07,530 --> 01:20:11,520
John C Dvorak: is it the cost of
these defenses is just

1414
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,510
ridiculous. He's going broke
doing these studies. I mean,

1415
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:16,500
those mean, imagine

1416
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:19,230
Adam Curry: that the government
is finance the government sues

1417
01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:27,390
me for for denying the moon
landing. Things are so bad that

1418
01:20:27,390 --> 01:20:31,350
even Trudeau is telling the
candidate avions they don't want

1419
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:32,070
to be like Trump.

1420
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:36,270
Unknown: What we hear from the
Leader of the Opposition is

1421
01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:39,930
under the previous Conservative
government, everything was

1422
01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:43,920
perfect. And what he is
proposing to do is to make

1423
01:20:43,980 --> 01:20:48,810
Canada great. Again, that is not
what Canadians want. He is

1424
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,910
pining for, quite frankly,
Canadians do not feel. Don't

1425
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:59,370
Adam Curry: make Canada great
again. No, no. Our Canadians

1426
01:20:59,370 --> 01:21:03,270
want no they don't want it to be
great again at all. All right,

1427
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:09,870
so we have the we have the
Democrats in this grand sciatica

1428
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:12,210
game, which I don't even know
how many people are really that

1429
01:21:12,210 --> 01:21:16,530
interested in, but it is good
for us to just pull it apart. We

1430
01:21:16,530 --> 01:21:19,320
have the Republicans or the
Democrats and saying, oh, it's

1431
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:25,650
Trump's fault. This war. And now
we have Lindsey Graham, I mean,

1432
01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:30,450
the for the border. Lindsey
Graham is now going to put his

1433
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:36,210
ugly little fat fingers into the
war business than that, you

1434
01:21:36,210 --> 01:21:41,040
know, they're doing it all
wrong. And and, you know, it

1435
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,350
would have been better if If
Trump were in office. I mean,

1436
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:45,660
the whole thing is just
disgusting.

1437
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:49,560
Unknown: Our national security
is in freefall. Morgan Ortega

1438
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,860
has made a very good point. Look
at the record for the last three

1439
01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:56,730
years. This is a symptom of a
greater problem. We withdrew

1440
01:21:56,730 --> 01:22:00,750
from Afghanistan, the Taliban
took over in 2021, showing

1441
01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:06,900
weakness Putin invades Ukraine
and 2022 and 2023. Hamas attacks

1442
01:22:06,900 --> 01:22:10,740
Israel, killing more Jews and
anytime since the Holocaust,

1443
01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:13,020
Holocaust 24. We're having
America.

1444
01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:15,510
Adam Curry: I love this whole
low cost like Hola, de

1445
01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:20,160
Unknown: masa tax Israel,
killing more Jews. And anytime

1446
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,330
since the Holocaust 2024. We're
having Americans killed by

1447
01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:28,440
Iranian proxies. In the Mideast,
they're pushing us all over the

1448
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:32,760
place. Our national security is
in freefall. Here's what works.

1449
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:36,690
Here's something they value
Soleimani was killed with a

1450
01:22:36,690 --> 01:22:40,170
single strike. He was there
General Patton and Eisenhower,

1451
01:22:40,290 --> 01:22:43,740
there was nothing left but a
small green card, car and a ring

1452
01:22:43,740 --> 01:22:51,000
finger. Ring finger it works.
Here's what we need to do. You

1453
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,480
need to hit something that I
told, told the values his

1454
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:58,140
leadership team like a solomani,
or take him out of the oil

1455
01:22:58,140 --> 01:23:01,290
business, if we hit their oil
infrastructure. You don't need

1456
01:23:01,290 --> 01:23:04,110
manned aircraft. They got four
refineries, you can see from

1457
01:23:04,110 --> 01:23:07,650
space, if you're not one of them
out, they would stop this. Our

1458
01:23:07,650 --> 01:23:12,120
American troops are in harm's
way. If the goal is to deter

1459
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,910
Iran, you're failing miserably.
They got the message. What

1460
01:23:14,910 --> 01:23:18,420
they're not afraid of us. They
were afraid of Trump, they're

1461
01:23:18,420 --> 01:23:21,990
not afraid of us. It is not
working. We need to change our

1462
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:27,330
policy. People are not afraid of
us this idea of hitting hundreds

1463
01:23:27,330 --> 01:23:31,140
of targets doesn't matter the
only Iranian we killed in Syria

1464
01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:34,950
or Iraq or or is some dumbass
that don't know to get out of

1465
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:38,670
the way we gave them a weeks
notice. So if there another

1466
01:23:38,670 --> 01:23:42,180
round of strikes coming I hope
they they really will hurt Iran

1467
01:23:42,330 --> 01:23:45,390
in their pocketbook or kill
their leadership because if you

1468
01:23:45,390 --> 01:23:46,500
don't nothing changes.

1469
01:23:46,590 --> 01:23:49,440
Adam Curry: The guy who
literally told Mark Zuckerberg

1470
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:52,830
he had blood on his hands is
saying Hey, kill some people

1471
01:23:52,860 --> 01:23:59,580
kill some kill some people that
matter blow some stuff up. But

1472
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:02,880
he's I think he's right. You
know, these so called strikes

1473
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,470
that we're doing. It's just if
anything is just to legitimize

1474
01:24:07,470 --> 01:24:10,140
that we're in Jordan, where we
shouldn't be in the first place

1475
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,240
John C Dvorak: or Syria. We can
be in Jordan,

1476
01:24:12,270 --> 01:24:14,850
Adam Curry: not in Syria, Syria,
Syria, Syria.

1477
01:24:14,940 --> 01:24:21,000
John C Dvorak: Now. If we go
back to a clip, I remind people

1478
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,520
that we had I don't have the
clip in front of me. But we had

1479
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,160
this clip of one of our analysts
going on that this whole thing

1480
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,640
is a scam because we're in bed
with Iran. Yes.

1481
01:24:30,090 --> 01:24:31,260
Adam Curry: Do you remember that
clip?

1482
01:24:32,130 --> 01:24:34,680
John C Dvorak: No, I you know,
I'm gonna have to try to dig it

1483
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,460
up. The claim was that we're in
bed with Iran, the whole thing's

1484
01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:41,790
phony. That's why we don't want
to get to a war with or even get

1485
01:24:41,790 --> 01:24:44,190
pushed into one and they don't
want one either. Because we know

1486
01:24:44,190 --> 01:24:48,180
we're all doing this for more
oil to get into the market. The

1487
01:24:48,180 --> 01:24:52,110
market is flooded with oil.
Biden has done just the opposite

1488
01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:54,870
of what he said he was going to
do but he can't talk about it or

1489
01:24:54,870 --> 01:24:58,890
brag about it because his base,
you know is all against fossil

1490
01:24:58,890 --> 01:25:02,460
fuels. But again, and all you
have to do is go to the American

1491
01:25:02,460 --> 01:25:05,010
Petroleum Institute or anybody
else and you'll find that we've

1492
01:25:05,010 --> 01:25:10,410
been pumping more oil than ever.
Stickley internationally than

1493
01:25:10,410 --> 01:25:15,270
ever before. We're flooded. The
market has got lots of oil. I

1494
01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:17,670
Adam Curry: think this is all
even the Red Sea. It's all about

1495
01:25:17,670 --> 01:25:20,010
control of oil. All of it.

1496
01:25:22,260 --> 01:25:24,450
John C Dvorak: Which has been
kind of a thesis of the show.

1497
01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:27,150
Yeah. Says the pipeline pipe
episode.

1498
01:25:27,150 --> 01:25:32,700
Adam Curry: pipelines, oil. And
then pipeline episode. Yep. 118

1499
01:25:32,700 --> 01:25:35,790
or something. 180. Way back.
180. Yeah.

1500
01:25:36,030 --> 01:25:39,060
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to
play some clips from Al Jazeera

1501
01:25:39,090 --> 01:25:42,660
about this war because they
brought on an Iraq Iranian

1502
01:25:42,930 --> 01:25:46,800
professor at the University of
Tehran. And he brings in some

1503
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,700
points that we've made on the
show. The guy's glib and he is a

1504
01:25:50,700 --> 01:25:56,220
dick. And you and he smirks when
the other people are talking

1505
01:25:56,220 --> 01:25:59,520
especially the American
representative, the representing

1506
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,730
American side of the argument
and he's on Yeah, sure. You just

1507
01:26:02,730 --> 01:26:06,420
see it in his eyes. And he's got
but he's got some things to say

1508
01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:11,820
that I think are interesting
enough that our, our group here

1509
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:15,780
should be aware of or be
reminded of mostly, let's go

1510
01:26:15,780 --> 01:26:17,550
with this. Clip one.

1511
01:26:17,610 --> 01:26:19,590
Unknown: Let's bring in our
guests for today's discussion

1512
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:22,590
from Tehran. We're joined by
Mohammad marandi, a political

1513
01:26:22,590 --> 01:26:26,280
analyst and professor at the
University of Tehran from

1514
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,550
London, read up Mandsaur, Senior
Research Fellow and Director of

1515
01:26:29,550 --> 01:26:32,880
the Iraq initiative at Chatham
House, a British think tank, and

1516
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,060
from Washington, DC Lawrence
Coates, senior fellow at the

1517
01:26:36,060 --> 01:26:39,600
Center for American Progress and
former US Assistant Secretary of

1518
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,800
Defense Gentlemen, welcome to
you all. Mohammad, marandi

1519
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:49,050
Professor. How dangerous moment
is for is this for the region

1520
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,120
will these strikes be the last
the

1521
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:56,010
United States is only digging it
digging itself into into into

1522
01:26:56,010 --> 01:27:01,410
the deeper hole? The United
States is illegally occupying

1523
01:27:01,410 --> 01:27:05,760
1/3 of Syria, the United States
keeps its military bases in

1524
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,690
Iraq, despite the fact that the
Iraqi parliament has told them

1525
01:27:09,690 --> 01:27:16,020
to leave. They struck bases that
are linked to the Iraqi

1526
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:19,290
military, they belong to the
Iraqi military, the Iraqis

1527
01:27:19,290 --> 01:27:23,970
condemned the attack. And the
same is true with Syria. They

1528
01:27:23,970 --> 01:27:28,800
will Biden wants to look strong.
He hasn't attacked the Iranians.

1529
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:34,440
And most importantly, is the
fact that this is about Iraqi

1530
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:38,790
and Syrian sovereignty. The
Americans like to call everyone

1531
01:27:38,910 --> 01:27:45,360
Iranian proxies. The Yemenis is
the Lebanese, the Palestinians

1532
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,760
and the Iraqis and the Syrians.
But that's just they're just

1533
01:27:47,940 --> 01:27:51,210
misleading public opinion. And
they're fooling themselves.

1534
01:27:51,450 --> 01:27:54,270
People don't like their
countries to be occupied.

1535
01:27:55,050 --> 01:28:01,920
You could also argue, Professor
that Iran is occupying parts of

1536
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,220
Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon
couldn't you know, I always

1537
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,860
Adam Curry: when, of course,
this guy is going to be right,

1538
01:28:07,860 --> 01:28:11,520
I'm sure. But always I always
feel bad when we do the show.

1539
01:28:11,550 --> 01:28:16,020
And like, we're the bad guys.
We're just delicious. I mean,

1540
01:28:16,020 --> 01:28:19,110
we're occupying everybody's I
know, we've been saying it for

1541
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:24,510
16 years. Because because it's
been true, but just feel bad

1542
01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:28,260
about it. Let's stop. That. That
is the one thing that I've

1543
01:28:28,260 --> 01:28:31,950
really, really liked about
Trump. Just you know, let's not

1544
01:28:31,950 --> 01:28:36,090
do that. Let's just do our own
thing over here. Let's not do

1545
01:28:36,090 --> 01:28:38,580
that. Yeah, yeah. All kinds of
back deals and backroom deals

1546
01:28:38,580 --> 01:28:39,660
with everybody but well,

1547
01:28:39,660 --> 01:28:42,420
John C Dvorak: the backroom
stuff the back channeling is

1548
01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:46,350
what, and they bring it out in
this commentary because the guy

1549
01:28:46,350 --> 01:28:49,320
who's not the Chatham House guy
really doesn't say much, which

1550
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,550
is kind of remarkable in itself
since they always have something

1551
01:28:53,550 --> 01:28:57,420
to say as propagandistic Chatham
House is an interesting

1552
01:28:57,420 --> 01:29:01,350
operation. It's like, kind of
like the nine

1553
01:29:01,530 --> 01:29:04,770
Adam Curry: CFR you have Chatham
House rules where anything we

1554
01:29:04,770 --> 01:29:07,560
say, can be talked about. Yeah,

1555
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:09,510
John C Dvorak: that kind of
thing. But the other guy, the,

1556
01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:15,750
the, the American ex, I think
he's a do defensive army guy. He

1557
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:18,240
brings up some interesting
points. And I think that and

1558
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,960
they're in these clips, where
what is on the surface is

1559
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,780
bullcrap. Because most of the
back channeling is just the

1560
01:29:24,780 --> 01:29:28,380
opposite of what we're hearing.
And it calls out this Iranian

1561
01:29:28,380 --> 01:29:31,200
guy a couple of times, but let's
go with clip two. No,

1562
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:37,710
Unknown: Iran doesn't have any
forces in Iraq and Iran. role in

1563
01:29:37,710 --> 01:29:42,870
Syria is with the consent of the
internationally recognized

1564
01:29:43,170 --> 01:29:47,730
government in Damascus. And in
any case, but

1565
01:29:47,730 --> 01:29:51,270
it has been it has, it has
proxy. It had does have proxy

1566
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:52,290
militias, though doesn't it?

1567
01:29:52,350 --> 01:29:56,280
Know whatever Iran does in
Syria. It is with the consent

1568
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:01,350
and support of the government.
Iran helps defeat ISIS and Al

1569
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:06,840
Qaeda. Remember in on February
the 12th 2012, Jake Solomon and

1570
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:11,070
now un, US national security
adviser sent an email to Hillary

1571
01:30:11,070 --> 01:30:14,160
Clinton saying, who was the
secretary of state saying that

1572
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,120
in Syria, al Qaeda is on our
side, ISIS came from al Qaeda,

1573
01:30:18,510 --> 01:30:22,410
the US Defense Intelligence
Agency documented 2012 said that

1574
01:30:22,410 --> 01:30:26,580
the US allies in the region
wanted to establish a solid

1575
01:30:26,850 --> 01:30:31,830
Salafist entity between Iraq and
Syria. And then the General

1576
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:34,500
General Michael Flynn, who was
the head of the that agency at

1577
01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:38,820
the time said in an interview on
on AlJazeera, that you guys took

1578
01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:39,210
a while,

1579
01:30:39,210 --> 01:30:40,800
Adam Curry: right? You say
Michael Flynn,

1580
01:30:41,310 --> 01:30:46,230
Unknown: to establish a solid, a
solid first entity between Iraq

1581
01:30:46,230 --> 01:30:49,740
and Syria. And then the General
General Michael Flynn, who was

1582
01:30:49,740 --> 01:30:52,590
the head of the that agency at
the time, said in an interview

1583
01:30:52,590 --> 01:30:57,240
on on Al Jazeera, that the US
took a willful decision to

1584
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,390
support the establishment of
their Salafis entity that was

1585
01:31:00,390 --> 01:31:03,720
ISIS. So the Iranians when the
US and its allies were

1586
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,290
establishing ISIS and al Qaeda
and their affiliates, the

1587
01:31:07,290 --> 01:31:11,160
Iranians were helping the
Syrians and Iraqis to prevent

1588
01:31:11,190 --> 01:31:16,050
ISIS from taking over Damascus
and Baghdad. Right. So

1589
01:31:16,050 --> 01:31:20,520
Adam Curry: let's just agree on
one thing. This is not because

1590
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,090
we hate anybody that lives in
the sand is because there's oil

1591
01:31:24,090 --> 01:31:27,120
in the sand. And we have the
military industrial complex

1592
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:31,500
which employs it. It's our
business. Yeah, I mean, that's

1593
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,880
oil that's needed. Our business
is oil. Our business is war.

1594
01:31:36,690 --> 01:31:40,380
John C Dvorak: Well, the war is
just a war is more a function of

1595
01:31:40,590 --> 01:31:42,630
making sure that oil Yes, slow.
Yes.

1596
01:31:42,660 --> 01:31:45,480
Adam Curry: I love how some of
the trolls are saying, Speak for

1597
01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:48,420
yourself. Curry. I'm not an
American. I don't I don't I

1598
01:31:48,420 --> 01:31:51,780
don't agree with those crooks in
Washington. Yeah, you can't walk

1599
01:31:51,780 --> 01:31:52,380
away from it.

1600
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:58,110
John C Dvorak: Crooks go vote

1601
01:31:58,110 --> 01:31:59,310
Adam Curry: that'll change
things.

1602
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:06,210
Unknown: In London, what do you
make of what you just heard,

1603
01:32:06,300 --> 01:32:09,240
but I think I mean, it's
important to kind of nuance some

1604
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:14,430
of this history. The Americans
were also invited to Iraq in

1605
01:32:14,430 --> 01:32:18,720
2014, by the Iraqi government,
to support in the fight against

1606
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:22,020
ISIS. So at that time, and
during the fight against ISIS,

1607
01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:25,830
the Americans and the Iranians
had they had a common enemy. And

1608
01:32:25,830 --> 01:32:29,190
they fought, you know, not, not
on the same side by side. But

1609
01:32:29,190 --> 01:32:32,760
with this with the common end,
yes, after ISIS, we're living in

1610
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:39,150
this sort of post ISIS arena,
this region, where now they're

1611
01:32:39,150 --> 01:32:42,210
sort of turned on each other.
And this is the latest of this

1612
01:32:42,210 --> 01:32:47,940
escalation. So both Iran and the
US have significant influence

1613
01:32:47,970 --> 01:32:53,550
across these countries. The US
does have troops in Iraq and

1614
01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:57,900
Syria. And Iran, of course, has
you know, I agree that calling

1615
01:32:57,900 --> 01:33:00,930
them proxies takes the agency
away from these groups, but they

1616
01:33:00,930 --> 01:33:04,350
are aligned, and they do work
together. And these are networks

1617
01:33:04,350 --> 01:33:09,120
that span across Yemen, Lebanon,
Syria and Iraq, pursuing at

1618
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,990
times Iran's foreign policy
goals. So this is a very

1619
01:33:12,990 --> 01:33:15,870
dangerous, I think I you know,
some are calling it tinderbox

1620
01:33:15,870 --> 01:33:19,320
right now, where neither the
Iranians nor the Americans want

1621
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:23,190
an all out war or a direct
conflict. But what we're seeing

1622
01:33:23,190 --> 01:33:26,850
is this tit for tat show of
force that's making the region

1623
01:33:26,850 --> 01:33:27,990
very dangerous.

1624
01:33:28,050 --> 01:33:30,780
Adam Curry: Oh, the region.
Thank God, we're back in the

1625
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:35,430
region. The region is great. You
know, what's in the region? Our

1626
01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:38,910
oil under their sand is in the
region. Exactly.

1627
01:33:38,910 --> 01:33:40,470
John C Dvorak: Right. And I
think that's brought up in the

1628
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:41,130
next clip

1629
01:33:41,190 --> 01:33:43,650
Unknown: Flores called Do you
want to come back on anything

1630
01:33:43,650 --> 01:33:46,020
that you've heard so far? Before
I put a direct question to you?

1631
01:33:46,110 --> 01:33:50,880
Yeah, I think it's important to
keep in mind that we left Iraq

1632
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:55,980
in 2011. In fact, I talked to my
lucky about staying basic.

1633
01:33:55,980 --> 01:34:01,590
Basically, we came back in 2014,
at their invitation, because of

1634
01:34:01,620 --> 01:34:05,520
what ISIS was doing. And
basically, that has been our

1635
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:11,280
role. Before October 7, we were
carrying this out, we were

1636
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,030
talking to the Iraqis about
leaving, sometimes they say

1637
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:18,180
something publicly, but
privately, no, they still wanted

1638
01:34:18,180 --> 01:34:25,950
us to say, but after October 7,
you had over 160 attacks on the

1639
01:34:25,950 --> 01:34:31,440
American forces there in Iraq
and Syria. Fortunately, no one

1640
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:37,530
was killed. So our response was
not overwhelming, or as strong

1641
01:34:37,530 --> 01:34:41,100
as it has been when the
Americans died. And that's where

1642
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:45,870
we are right right now, and my
experience with the Iraqis a lot

1643
01:34:45,870 --> 01:34:49,020
of times they'll say something
publicly to appease the

1644
01:34:49,020 --> 01:34:52,410
Iranians, but then privately
they'll say, no, no, we really

1645
01:34:52,410 --> 01:34:54,510
still want you to stay. You know
what I

1646
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:59,580
Adam Curry: do? I'm missing. I'm
missing shots of people saying

1647
01:34:59,580 --> 01:35:04,440
death to America, they need to
get that going again. And I

1648
01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:07,440
honestly I would really like to
have the those guys in the

1649
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:09,810
orange jumpsuits beheading
people again, because that was

1650
01:35:09,810 --> 01:35:11,490
some good video they were
producing.

1651
01:35:13,620 --> 01:35:17,040
John C Dvorak: I think the Yeah,
that was good. It was it was

1652
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,940
more entertaining than what
we're getting that kind of dry

1653
01:35:20,940 --> 01:35:25,140
is kind of academic. In fact,
this These clips are very much

1654
01:35:25,140 --> 01:35:25,710
that way.

1655
01:35:25,740 --> 01:35:28,440
Adam Curry: I know. But it's
still good stuff. It's a good

1656
01:35:28,440 --> 01:35:33,060
reminder because this goes back
1010 years, eight years, all of

1657
01:35:33,060 --> 01:35:38,070
this stuff is just if nothing
has changed. They just rehab

1658
01:35:38,370 --> 01:35:42,360
rehashing this is five. Yeah, as
good as the last one, right?

1659
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:43,950
Yes. Last six.

1660
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,860
John C Dvorak: There's six. Oh,
yes.

1661
01:35:46,890 --> 01:35:49,110
Unknown: I'm sorry, six.
Muhammad, the US national

1662
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:53,010
security Spokesman John Kirby
said that the goal is to get the

1663
01:35:53,010 --> 01:35:57,030
attacks on US interests to stop.
We're not he said, quote looking

1664
01:35:57,030 --> 01:36:02,550
for a war with Iran. Now, no
targets were hit within Iran in

1665
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:05,910
these retaliatory strikes. How
will Iran and its proxies

1666
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:12,120
respond? Well, it will not cease
rain these groups in as Lawrence

1667
01:36:12,150 --> 01:36:14,820
said the US wants it to. Let's

1668
01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:18,810
be clear, contrary to what your
guest in the United States says

1669
01:36:18,810 --> 01:36:23,010
these are not proxies. And the
real issue here is the genocide

1670
01:36:23,010 --> 01:36:27,090
in Gaza. I have no doubt about
it. And the United States, as we

1671
01:36:27,090 --> 01:36:32,550
speak, is preparing the Israeli
regime for an expansion in

1672
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:38,790
Lebanon. So in the coming weeks,
we may have heavy fighting in

1673
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:43,380
southern Lebanon. The United
States is not retaliating in

1674
01:36:43,380 --> 01:36:47,490
Syria, the United States is an
illegal occupation force in

1675
01:36:47,490 --> 01:36:52,410
Syria, in the Al TANF area where
it occupies, in fact, there are

1676
01:36:52,410 --> 01:36:57,690
tribes that were loyal to ISIS,
those tribes are trained by the

1677
01:36:57,690 --> 01:37:03,420
Americans right now. And they
use that area al TANF to attack

1678
01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:06,450
Syrian government forces. And in
the in the last couple of

1679
01:37:06,450 --> 01:37:09,330
months, they carried out two
major attacks, in each case

1680
01:37:09,330 --> 01:37:14,430
killing between 15 to 20
conscript soldiers on buses, and

1681
01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:18,660
I think on both occasions, so
the United States, its presence

1682
01:37:18,660 --> 01:37:23,490
in Syria is illegal. It is
stealing Syrian oil in the east

1683
01:37:23,490 --> 01:37:28,410
of the country, and exporting is
no wrong one, the United States

1684
01:37:28,410 --> 01:37:32,730
has bombed Iraqi military
positions, it has destroyed

1685
01:37:33,390 --> 01:37:36,750
Iraqi facilities that were
constructed and paid for by the

1686
01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:41,100
Iraqi government. This is the
reality on the ground. Nothing

1687
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:42,330
will change that. Okay.

1688
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,990
Adam Curry: So the one thing I'd
like to understand is who and

1689
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:50,010
how are we pumping the oil out
of Syria? What kind of know what

1690
01:37:50,010 --> 01:37:50,850
competent? That's

1691
01:37:50,850 --> 01:37:53,760
John C Dvorak: a crazy
accusation. But it sounds right.

1692
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,330
The only thing that explains our
presence in Syria, but

1693
01:37:57,330 --> 01:38:00,270
Adam Curry: who what company who
was I know, there's pipelines

1694
01:38:00,270 --> 01:38:03,780
everywhere, but who was really
pumping it out? Well, that

1695
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:07,470
John C Dvorak: we need to find
out. Is that some blockbuster?

1696
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:15,210
Yeah. But that to me, I've never
heard that before. That was

1697
01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:19,440
stealing Syrian oil. And Syria
has never been known as an oil

1698
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:22,950
producer. But they're in that
same region. They probably have

1699
01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:23,910
oil here and there.

1700
01:38:23,940 --> 01:38:26,820
Adam Curry: They're in the
region. They're

1701
01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:30,120
John C Dvorak: in the region.
Soaking with oil soaked, it's

1702
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,660
Adam Curry: northeast Syria. I
think it's where the oil is.

1703
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:37,890
Hasakah it's northeast,

1704
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,130
John C Dvorak: was it anywhere
near a port? Well, it was

1705
01:38:41,130 --> 01:38:44,100
pumping it right to the port and
shipping it out and tankers.

1706
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,150
Adam Curry: This comes back to
the Kurds probably it's probably

1707
01:38:48,150 --> 01:38:50,100
very cheap. To get it there.

1708
01:38:50,130 --> 01:38:51,150
John C Dvorak: Well, it's gotta
be dirt cheap,

1709
01:38:51,180 --> 01:38:55,290
Adam Curry: sure. Conoco.
Candoco. Kyoko gonna go Yeah,

1710
01:38:55,290 --> 01:38:56,940
who owns Conoco? Who is that?

1711
01:38:57,450 --> 01:39:00,270
John C Dvorak: It's an offshoot
of Standard Oil of New York now.

1712
01:39:00,270 --> 01:39:00,390
There

1713
01:39:00,390 --> 01:39:03,390
Adam Curry: you go. Oh, make
sense. Sustained Isabel? It's

1714
01:39:03,390 --> 01:39:04,770
John C Dvorak: a spinoff from
years ago. Come on.

1715
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,100
Adam Curry: Now. Is this all
because I mean, so the grand

1716
01:39:08,130 --> 01:39:13,110
game is you? You try to hamper
Russia's oil, which to some

1717
01:39:13,110 --> 01:39:18,510
degree, of course did work, even
though no, no. But for some

1718
01:39:18,510 --> 01:39:20,580
stuff. It didn't help. But

1719
01:39:21,570 --> 01:39:24,960
John C Dvorak: what I'll tell
you what fascinates me is that

1720
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,740
they've managed to keep the cost
of oil over $70 A barrel by

1721
01:39:28,740 --> 01:39:32,310
creating what seems to be a
shortage, while pumping more

1722
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:35,970
than ever before the price of
oil right now to the American

1723
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:39,480
public to the consumer,
especially the gasoline price

1724
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,920
should be back to the preach the
Trump era. And it shouldn't be

1725
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:47,610
$75 a barrel or whatever it is,
is in the 70s and goes through

1726
01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:52,080
floats between 72 and 80 to 90
Isn't it just mark just toning

1727
01:39:52,110 --> 01:39:53,790
down to the 50?

1728
01:39:53,820 --> 01:39:56,280
Adam Curry: Isn't it just phony
markets and markets are also

1729
01:39:56,280 --> 01:40:00,000
based on sentiment and new
stories and absolutely

1730
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,090
John C Dvorak: So they give you
the impression that the you know

1731
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:06,990
and we're cutting down are no
more fossil fuels and the whole

1732
01:40:07,020 --> 01:40:10,620
bull crap that they're promoting
is doing nothing but benefiting

1733
01:40:10,620 --> 01:40:13,560
the big oil companies again I
would tell people to take a look

1734
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:21,510
at this chart first Exxon Mobil
from the day today if you were

1735
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:24,300
to put your money into Exxon
Mobil right at the day you got

1736
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:27,690
elected I think you would have
tripled your money by now. But

1737
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:31,770
so this is so scam ish. It's
it's embarrassing. Same for

1738
01:40:31,770 --> 01:40:39,990
meta. Meta, let's go with Mata
Yeah, we actually that

1739
01:40:40,050 --> 01:40:41,640
quadrupled, quadrupled,

1740
01:40:41,670 --> 01:40:45,300
Adam Curry: quadrupled went from
100, under 100 to 400. Yeah,

1741
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:47,970
John C Dvorak: went to button
from 96 to 400 pretty quickly.

1742
01:40:48,270 --> 01:40:50,670
So let's go to clip six. And

1743
01:40:50,670 --> 01:40:55,290
Unknown: I should also add that
the United States after the

1744
01:40:55,290 --> 01:40:59,400
assassination of the Iraqi
commander, Abu Mahdi, Al

1745
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:04,110
muhandis, alongside general
Qasem Soleimani. At the Iraqi

1746
01:41:04,110 --> 01:41:07,800
International Airport for over
four years ago, the Iraqi

1747
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,860
parliament demanded that the
United States leave and they

1748
01:41:10,860 --> 01:41:14,670
never did. They said they'd
leave. But the United States has

1749
01:41:14,670 --> 01:41:19,290
one strong card to play with.
And that is that all of the

1750
01:41:19,290 --> 01:41:23,280
Iraqi oil that is sold, the
money goes through account in

1751
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,580
the United States. And whenever
the Iraqi government goes too

1752
01:41:26,580 --> 01:41:30,780
far, the Americans start
withholding Iraqi funds and

1753
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:33,990
creating a crisis in Iraq. So
the Americans are like The

1754
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:37,950
Godfather. They stand back they
pretend they're the good guys.

1755
01:41:37,950 --> 01:41:42,780
Yeah, but just Gaza where they
are part of the this genocide.

1756
01:41:44,220 --> 01:41:47,280
Here, they played the same role.
Remember the United States in

1757
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:51,240
Iraq, they help Saddam Hussein.
The West gave Saddam Hussein

1758
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,210
chemical weapons the US fought
alongside Saddam Hussein against

1759
01:41:54,210 --> 01:41:59,700
Iran, in 1988, striking Iranian
ships. And then it turned

1760
01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:03,300
against Iraq. Later on, it
invaded Iraq, who created this

1761
01:42:03,300 --> 01:42:05,340
mess? It was the United States.

1762
01:42:05,490 --> 01:42:10,950
Adam Curry: Yeah, we don't even
talk about Libya and Qaddafi. We

1763
01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:13,710
really do. Yeah, we did a number
on him.

1764
01:42:14,730 --> 01:42:15,930
Unknown: For sure. Yeah. Well,

1765
01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:20,820
Adam Curry: well, so I'll follow
that up. I have a Lester Holt

1766
01:42:20,820 --> 01:42:24,840
interview short here too short
clips, with the ambassador to

1767
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,440
the UN Iran's ambassador to the
UN. Let's see if we can get some

1768
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:30,330
clarification on the big theater

1769
01:42:30,330 --> 01:42:33,300
Unknown: from him. I spoke to
Ambassador Amira, siete era

1770
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:37,680
Vani, just days after three US
soldiers died in a drone attack.

1771
01:42:37,710 --> 01:42:41,490
And with ongoing strikes on
commercial ships in the Red Sea,

1772
01:42:41,850 --> 01:42:45,540
the US blaming Iranian backed
militias, much of the

1773
01:42:45,540 --> 01:42:50,910
conversation centers on the
level of control or influence

1774
01:42:50,910 --> 01:42:53,880
that you and the Iranian
government has over these groups

1775
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,750
to who these and other groups,
if you pick up the phone, can

1776
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:59,070
you end the attacks?

1777
01:43:00,030 --> 01:43:04,350
No, when I say that, it is not
the same case, the relation

1778
01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:08,490
between Iran and the resistance
group in this region may be

1779
01:43:08,490 --> 01:43:11,070
compared with the NATO Treaty.

1780
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,010
So you call this like a defense
pact? Yeah, difference

1781
01:43:14,010 --> 01:43:18,630
pack between the resistance
group and on. They have their

1782
01:43:18,630 --> 01:43:22,860
own decision. They have their
own choices. It is not the data

1783
01:43:22,860 --> 01:43:25,740
to inform call to the horses,
who the

1784
01:43:25,740 --> 01:43:28,260
attacks that we've seen on
commercial shipping

1785
01:43:29,010 --> 01:43:33,780
sophisticated weapons. Is Iran
supplying those weapons? Not at

1786
01:43:33,780 --> 01:43:37,590
all. Would Iran prefer that the
Houthi attacks against

1787
01:43:37,620 --> 01:43:43,320
commercial shipping, threatening
us naval vessels? Do you wish

1788
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,510
those would stop? Are they
helpful?

1789
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,920
You know, we encourage all of
them. You're encouraging them to

1790
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,970
stop, we encourage them to stop.
We expect that the other side

1791
01:43:53,970 --> 01:43:58,380
also should encourage the
Israeli to stop. Stop.

1792
01:43:58,410 --> 01:44:03,570
Adam Curry: We got to stop it.
Stop it. Stop it out. You know,

1793
01:44:03,930 --> 01:44:07,230
I always have to think of Lexus
wife for you. Bob says everyone

1794
01:44:07,230 --> 01:44:10,950
in Iran everyone knows America
and Iran and working together.

1795
01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:14,010
Everybody knows it. Over there.

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01:44:15,180 --> 01:44:18,570
Unknown: On Friday, the US began
what's expected to be a wave of

1797
01:44:18,570 --> 01:44:21,480
attacks in response to the
deaths of those American

1798
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:25,320
soldiers if there was an
American attack on Iran or

1799
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,530
Iranian interests. What do you
foresee the reaction would be?

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01:44:28,620 --> 01:44:29,100
Oh, we

1801
01:44:29,130 --> 01:44:30,240
Adam Curry: break out the

1802
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,480
John C Dvorak: party has second
he's doing the interview still

1803
01:44:33,480 --> 01:44:34,440
right. Yeah.

1804
01:44:34,710 --> 01:44:38,220
So they cut away just like what
is this the Family Guy Show?

1805
01:44:38,250 --> 01:44:42,960
Yeah. So they cut away to some
net papi explosions? Yes,

1806
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:47,190
Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Please. We
attacked you. What would your

1807
01:44:47,460 --> 01:44:51,780
reaction be? A one of joy? Of
course. You know that?

1808
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,380
Unknown: Absolutely. You know,
we have their own reaction. We

1809
01:44:55,380 --> 01:45:02,640
said clearly that if they attack
in lung soil or Ilan benefit, or

1810
01:45:02,670 --> 01:45:07,170
Iran, individuals all around the
world. We have their own

1811
01:45:07,170 --> 01:45:10,290
reaction and we will defend.
Absolutely. And

1812
01:45:10,290 --> 01:45:14,370
I asked about news, Hamas has
responded to an offer for a

1813
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:15,510
hostage deal.

1814
01:45:15,540 --> 01:45:24,360
There's been a response from the
opposition. But yes, I'm sorry,

1815
01:45:24,750 --> 01:45:30,780
from Hamas. But it seems to be a
little over the top. We're not

1816
01:45:30,780 --> 01:45:31,560
sure where it is.

1817
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:35,940
How do you view the fact that a
deal may come about since

1818
01:45:37,110 --> 01:45:42,420
I think that if the other side
accepts the condition of Hamas,

1819
01:45:43,410 --> 01:45:46,440
the ceasefire is possible.

1820
01:45:47,460 --> 01:45:49,230
lasting one lasting one?

1821
01:45:50,190 --> 01:45:52,890
Adam Curry: Plate theater
theater and by the way, they

1822
01:45:52,890 --> 01:45:55,020
don't care who dies. They don't
care who dies on the streets of

1823
01:45:55,020 --> 01:46:00,180
America. Don't cry care who dies
in Gaza? No one cares. We are

1824
01:46:00,180 --> 01:46:02,160
dispensable human resources.

1825
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,640
John C Dvorak: bestest, a
hostage, I mean, the hostages

1826
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,850
they say 30% of them must be
dead by now. Already know,

1827
01:46:08,850 --> 01:46:12,510
they'd said that says at least
30 of the 150 are already dead.

1828
01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:16,770
Yeah. The 150 left that they
haven't passed on passed back.

1829
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,180
And if they don't think they
want to know I don't think this

1830
01:46:21,180 --> 01:46:23,700
they're ever gonna bring this to
a conclusion because they don't

1831
01:46:23,700 --> 01:46:26,850
want to find out. They're all
dead. Yeah.

1832
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:31,020
Adam Curry: Also, the minute
that happens, then Bibi

1833
01:46:31,020 --> 01:46:36,630
Netanyahu gets kicked out. He'll
be gone. Everybody hates him. So

1834
01:46:36,660 --> 01:46:41,280
that they need that ongoing,
ongoing conflict. Genocide.

1835
01:46:42,330 --> 01:46:45,150
John C Dvorak: Well, it has to
go on for a while. So there's,

1836
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:45,900
I'm

1837
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:47,400
Adam Curry: gonna move to
something else a little less

1838
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,600
depressing. There was this
headline, which kind of reminded

1839
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:56,310
me of the Swift top Biden camp
reportedly fears photos from

1840
01:46:56,310 --> 01:47:00,450
Special Counsel classified
documents probe could devastate

1841
01:47:00,450 --> 01:47:06,450
reelection bid. I immediately
thought Ha, there it is. There's

1842
01:47:06,450 --> 01:47:14,940
your API fake photo swift up Oh,
Special Counsel for the app

1843
01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:16,800
being set up just

1844
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,200
John C Dvorak: fake fake photos.
There's going to be a real photo

1845
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,900
they're going to say is fake
Yes. Or yeah, the fake photo

1846
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:23,820
they're going to say it's fake
they're going to say it's fake

1847
01:47:23,820 --> 01:47:24,210
whatever it

1848
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:27,720
Adam Curry: doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter. Either way is

1849
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:31,260
good. Special Counsel Robert
Herr could release report in

1850
01:47:31,260 --> 01:47:35,190
Biden classified docs case as
soon as this week but what would

1851
01:47:35,190 --> 01:47:40,530
be so embarrassing just take
them just stuffed thrown about

1852
01:47:40,530 --> 01:47:43,140
or? I mean Haven't we already
seen it in his garage? Wasn't

1853
01:47:43,140 --> 01:47:44,310
that embarrassing enough?

1854
01:47:44,580 --> 01:47:46,530
John C Dvorak: No, it's got to
be some mouse gotta be somewhere

1855
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,590
I did to be good. It has to be
sexual.

1856
01:47:49,620 --> 01:47:51,540
Adam Curry: Yeah, like taking
showers with his daughter

1857
01:47:53,010 --> 01:47:54,810
John C Dvorak: well, they're not
gonna have any photos is that

1858
01:47:54,810 --> 01:48:02,010
but I don't know what it could
be. We'll find out soon enough

1859
01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:04,590
because you know what's gonna
come out if they although you

1860
01:48:04,590 --> 01:48:08,670
remember this this isn't always
interested me. You remember the

1861
01:48:08,730 --> 01:48:14,790
Abu Ghraib scandal with Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah. Hello, dominatrix girl

1862
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:18,120
with a whip and she's beaten
guys the naked in our pile and

1863
01:48:19,140 --> 01:48:22,470
all these wires hooked up to
him. The wires hooked up in

1864
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:27,450
there with a black hood and all
the rest of it. Yeah. And they

1865
01:48:27,450 --> 01:48:31,050
made the comment and I think it
was used to Schumer or somebody

1866
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:34,770
in Congress as well you know
people are going to have to get

1867
01:48:34,770 --> 01:48:37,950
ready because that's not even
the worst of it. The worst is to

1868
01:48:37,950 --> 01:48:42,000
come and we never saw any of
that no

1869
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:42,870
Adam Curry: never saw it

1870
01:48:45,480 --> 01:48:48,090
John C Dvorak: so you have to
wonder in fact right now that

1871
01:48:48,180 --> 01:48:51,600
the latest isn't I haven't don't
have any anti me clips about it

1872
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:58,200
but the concept that I'll have
it for the next show. Jeremy who

1873
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:03,600
scan escapee whatever his name
is. Is it Scahill? Yeah, it's on

1874
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,180
Democracy Now claims that
they've done the research and

1875
01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:12,510
shows that the entire situation
in Gaza versus Iraq is all

1876
01:49:12,510 --> 01:49:16,830
bogus, and he's got all kinds of
documentation for it. And I have

1877
01:49:16,830 --> 01:49:21,270
commentary but I have to, I have
to for this too long on one of

1878
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:24,120
these long lab lab lab things I
got to cut it way down.

1879
01:49:24,270 --> 01:49:26,730
Adam Curry: Take me a little
shorter than the professor just

1880
01:49:26,730 --> 01:49:28,320
one clip shorter six. Well,

1881
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,000
John C Dvorak: you know, the
professor, I didn't like it

1882
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,820
being this long. I did cut a lot
out because there was more than

1883
01:49:32,820 --> 01:49:35,790
just a professor, but I liked
what the professor had to say.

1884
01:49:36,420 --> 01:49:38,550
Even though he was a dick. So

1885
01:49:39,630 --> 01:49:42,180
Adam Curry: climate change
couple of things happening. One

1886
01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:46,110
is that Mark what's his name?

1887
01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:49,620
John C Dvorak: Well, I haven't I
have the intro clip before you

1888
01:49:49,620 --> 01:49:50,700
start on climate change

1889
01:49:50,730 --> 01:49:53,370
Adam Curry: the mark Stein thing
do you have that? No, no, I

1890
01:49:53,370 --> 01:49:55,050
John C Dvorak: have an intro
clip just to get you in the

1891
01:49:55,050 --> 01:49:59,970
mood. Okay. What is it what is
this the California floods fed?

1892
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,540
democracy now report because you
know the democracy now they get

1893
01:50:03,540 --> 01:50:08,400
to the bottom of things. Is it
Amy? No, it's not Amy is not

1894
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,490
Amina or whatever name is the
the homely woman

1895
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,490
Unknown: in California. At least
nine people have died as the

1896
01:50:14,490 --> 01:50:18,030
state continues to be pummeled
with record breaking rainfall

1897
01:50:18,060 --> 01:50:21,960
from a deadly atmospheric river
storm. Some areas of southern

1898
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,530
California recorded over 13
inches of rain in recent days,

1899
01:50:25,740 --> 01:50:29,700
triggering mass flooding and
hundreds of mudslides. This is

1900
01:50:29,700 --> 01:50:33,690
the actor and filmmaker Deborah
puits, speaking in Studio City

1901
01:50:33,690 --> 01:50:35,670
as a river of water flowed down
into

1902
01:50:35,670 --> 01:50:38,460
John C Dvorak: the water, these
record highs in the summertime,

1903
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,550
and then these incredible storms
that we've never had before that

1904
01:50:41,550 --> 01:50:45,600
they're calling, you know, once
every 100 year storms and we've

1905
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:51,810
had two of them since August. So
that's my belief is of course

1906
01:50:51,810 --> 01:50:52,770
it's climate change.

1907
01:50:52,890 --> 01:50:55,020
Adam Curry: Golf Course is
climate change. How was it

1908
01:50:55,020 --> 01:50:56,940
there? John? How are they? How
are the mudflats? How's

1909
01:50:56,940 --> 01:50:58,500
everything looking over this
beautiful

1910
01:50:58,500 --> 01:51:01,110
John C Dvorak: out right now?
Sunny? clouds in the sky? It's

1911
01:51:01,110 --> 01:51:04,920
nice. It's a little cold. 41
Last night, it was really cold.

1912
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:09,330
Yeah. But there's no rain. It
hasn't rained for a couple of or

1913
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,340
rain a little bit yesterday, and
it's gonna be

1914
01:51:11,790 --> 01:51:14,700
Adam Curry: the other day. On
Sunday. We had a you had when

1915
01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:18,360
there was that the once in 100
years storm that you had? Well,

1916
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,360
John C Dvorak: we've had we
anytime there's wind from the

1917
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,570
south. It's it's a nuisance.
It's such a blow and stuff. But

1918
01:51:24,570 --> 01:51:27,960
Adam Curry: that wasn't my
question. Have you had Yeah, to

1919
01:51:28,740 --> 01:51:32,400
John C Dvorak: 100 years? Okay,
every 100 years? And

1920
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,110
Adam Curry: of course, that's
because of climate change. Now,

1921
01:51:34,110 --> 01:51:36,990
there's a court case right now,
I think it's in men.

1922
01:51:37,020 --> 01:51:38,790
John C Dvorak: By the way, why
would you automatically go to

1923
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:43,980
that? Why do you have to be
brainwashed to go if say climate

1924
01:51:43,980 --> 01:51:48,690
change was never discussed or
even thought of? You would you

1925
01:51:48,750 --> 01:51:51,660
automatically think climate
change because it's rained a

1926
01:51:51,660 --> 01:51:55,560
little bit in Los Angeles, it
rains when it rains in LA and

1927
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:59,820
fills up that dead culvert
called Los Angeles River, which

1928
01:51:59,820 --> 01:52:03,270
is a cement thing. They build
just for overflow, and it's

1929
01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:07,740
filled. I haven't as a kid, I
remember getting filled and it

1930
01:52:07,740 --> 01:52:10,530
gets filled every decade. Well,

1931
01:52:10,530 --> 01:52:14,220
Adam Curry: yes, the answer is
yes. There's a trillions of

1932
01:52:14,220 --> 01:52:18,870
dollars have been spent for the
past 40 years on psychologically

1933
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:21,840
telling people manipulating
people into believing that

1934
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,890
climate changes is killing us. I
heard guy I know pretty well.

1935
01:52:25,890 --> 01:52:28,410
Just the other day he's doing
it. He lives in Australia says,

1936
01:52:28,740 --> 01:52:32,850
Oh, it's 85 degrees here. Well,
it's climate change. You know,

1937
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,030
and we're burning up again and
Australia's climate change.

1938
01:52:36,810 --> 01:52:40,110
Yeah, and it's just being used.
We used to say, well, it's

1939
01:52:40,110 --> 01:52:43,530
Indian Summer, well, it's hot,
or whatever we'd say it's hot.

1940
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:49,590
It's hot. I remember in the 70s
going back to, to visit from

1941
01:52:49,620 --> 01:52:53,220
from Holland and we were in I'm
going to say maybe we're in New

1942
01:52:53,220 --> 01:52:57,030
England, and hanging out and you
know, the tar was melting on the

1943
01:52:57,030 --> 01:53:00,090
street. And I remember was hot.
I remember cooking an egg in

1944
01:53:00,090 --> 01:53:04,680
Vegas for a TV show in 1990. It
was hot. You know, it's not any

1945
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:06,240
hotter. Anyway.

1946
01:53:07,290 --> 01:53:08,670
John C Dvorak: Yes. Hot every
year.

1947
01:53:08,700 --> 01:53:11,790
Adam Curry: So Mark Stein
remember him? Mark Stein? Mark

1948
01:53:11,790 --> 01:53:12,270
Stein?

1949
01:53:12,270 --> 01:53:15,930
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he used to
be good for Mark Levin but many

1950
01:53:15,930 --> 01:53:16,500
marks

1951
01:53:16,530 --> 01:53:19,050
Adam Curry: used to be on Tucker
and this will

1952
01:53:19,050 --> 01:53:21,540
John C Dvorak: be on a lot he
used to be on all the fox and

1953
01:53:21,540 --> 01:53:25,560
radio shows all the radio shows
I think even took a brush

1954
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,450
Limbaugh seat a couple of times.
Yes.

1955
01:53:28,170 --> 01:53:31,170
Adam Curry: So he is in a
lawsuit right now. It's a civil

1956
01:53:31,170 --> 01:53:36,180
suit and it's being a defamation
suit by Michael Mann against

1957
01:53:36,180 --> 01:53:40,860
marks nine as Mark Stein.
Michael manda director, no

1958
01:53:40,860 --> 01:53:44,220
microman the climate change guy
remember the the guy who

1959
01:53:44,220 --> 01:53:47,520
manipulated all of the data? Oh,

1960
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,490
John C Dvorak: man, the hotline,
the hockey stick guy, the hockey

1961
01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:51,060
stick guy.

1962
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:54,450
Adam Curry: So Mark Stein,
probably on a throwaway said,

1963
01:53:54,570 --> 01:53:57,600
Well, this is bullcrap. This is
a lie. This has manipulated

1964
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:04,320
data. And this was 12 years ago.
And so you know, he let me see

1965
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,180
if I can. What is exactly so

1966
01:54:06,180 --> 01:54:09,000
John C Dvorak: it is shut people
up here about 12 years ago.

1967
01:54:10,380 --> 01:54:12,720
Adam Curry: He added some
comments to an internet post

1968
01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:16,830
written by someone else. His
observations drew oppo here's

1969
01:54:16,830 --> 01:54:21,150
the problem I drew a parallel
between Jerry Sandusky. That's

1970
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:24,420
the Penn football coach. The
Fiddler Yeah,

1971
01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:27,690
John C Dvorak: the pedophile?
Yes. And man bla he was he was

1972
01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:30,870
the he was a trainer guy who
wasn't the coach. Yeah, both

1973
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:33,630
Adam Curry: man and Sandusky
were investigated by Penn

1974
01:54:33,630 --> 01:54:36,300
State's administration with
Stein characterized as a cover

1975
01:54:36,300 --> 01:54:40,020
up. So that I guess that's where
the problem stems from. But so

1976
01:54:40,020 --> 01:54:46,980
now in there in court, and we'll
find out if that hockey stick

1977
01:54:48,390 --> 01:54:51,750
chart was bullcrap or not. And
from what I understand, you

1978
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:54,330
know, a lot of the experts that
Stein wants to bring in are not

1979
01:54:54,330 --> 01:54:57,060
being allowed by the you know,
because it says our justice

1980
01:54:57,060 --> 01:55:02,430
system is great. So while that's
happening There's a pseudo when

1981
01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:06,030
in the European Union,
everyone's like, yeah, the

1982
01:55:06,030 --> 01:55:08,910
farmers did it we made European

1983
01:55:08,910 --> 01:55:12,450
Unknown: Union has dropped a key
part of its 2040 proposal

1984
01:55:12,450 --> 01:55:17,340
requiring agricultural emissions
to be cut by 30%. That's a big

1985
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deal. The move comes as Spanish
farmers staged protests across

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the country, as you see right
there using tractors to block

1987
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roads in some areas. They're
joining farmers in Germany,

1988
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France and other European
countries who have held similar

1989
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protests in recent weeks.
Farmers are angry about rising

1990
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costs, high levels of
bureaucracy and competition from

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non EU countries.

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Adam Curry: So here's what I
understand what happened. The

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European Union said, we're going
to drop this, you don't have to

1994
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cut 30% and co2. But two days
before they did that, the EU

1995
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Commission said tougher climate
targets upping the co2 level

1996
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reduction from 55% by 2040 2050.
To 90%. So while everyone

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thought they got a deal, they
actually got screwed. Ah, yeah.

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And this is not reported it. Oh,
I mean, I got a report but I

1999
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have no no news report. So
that's all they did. I said, All

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right. We're gonna do we're
gonna I'm gonna screw these guys

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01:56:28,950 --> 01:56:32,610
in this gonna change this from
55 to an up to 90. Yeah, we'll

2002
01:56:32,610 --> 01:56:36,420
give you 30% off. No, it's the
same. So what did they get 40

2003
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fives and really got a 5%
difference which who How do you

2004
01:56:39,390 --> 01:56:40,680
even count that anyway?

2005
01:56:43,860 --> 01:56:46,860
John C Dvorak: Well, the Federal
Reserve will figure this out.

2006
01:56:47,790 --> 01:56:48,030
Well,

2007
01:56:48,030 --> 01:56:50,850
Adam Curry: eventually, but the
momentum is gone. You know the

2008
01:56:50,850 --> 01:56:54,150
momentum? Oh, yeah. We farmers
go farmers, you beat him

2009
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farmers. The momentum

2010
01:56:55,590 --> 01:56:58,140
John C Dvorak: is never achieved
what the goals that should have

2011
01:56:58,140 --> 01:57:01,350
been achieved in the first
place. Americans are totally

2012
01:57:01,350 --> 01:57:02,910
unaware that this is going on.

2013
01:57:03,150 --> 01:57:04,920
Adam Curry: So because you don't
see any of it. You don't want

2014
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,310
our farmers getting all up in in
everybody's grill if our farmers

2015
01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:13,530
really got mad. I mean, that
would paralyze everything. Yeah,

2016
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I don't think we're going to I
don't think that's going to

2017
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:22,470
happen. Okay, I have two farmers
stories, which I think are

2018
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:28,440
important. The first one is,
this is this is it's kind of a

2019
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:35,880
two in one story about
depression, and then about your

2020
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:41,850
immunity. And they both somehow
can be measured in your blood.

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01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:46,230
Unknown: On the medical watch a
possible blood test to diagnose

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01:57:46,230 --> 01:57:48,930
depression. A medical reporter
Dina Barrett joins us now with

2023
01:57:48,930 --> 01:57:52,110
this novel idea, Deena. Then in
Lourdes Johns Hopkins

2024
01:57:52,110 --> 01:57:55,200
researchers say they're making
progress toward a simple test

2025
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:59,640
for psychiatric and neurologic
disorders. They use genetic

2026
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:03,660
material from human blood, along
with lab grown brain cells. They

2027
01:58:03,660 --> 01:58:07,230
say in the blood, they could see
disease associated changes in

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01:58:07,230 --> 01:58:10,710
the brain linked to postpartum
depression and other disorders.

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01:58:11,010 --> 01:58:14,730
Scientists say the footprints of
brain cell derived changes

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circulate outside the brain with
a blood draw doctor say they can

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01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:22,590
detect changes in gene activity
inside the brain that indicate

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01:58:22,590 --> 01:58:24,750
mental and physical diseases.

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01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,510
Adam Curry: So first of all,
they talk about a lab grown

2034
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:30,120
brain which is just kind of
glossed over what are we

2035
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:31,050
drinking there, John?

2036
01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:37,590
John C Dvorak: Today's drink is
origin. Refreshing, sparkling

2037
01:58:37,710 --> 01:58:40,140
American spring water. Oh,

2038
01:58:40,140 --> 01:58:42,300
Adam Curry: is it just spring
water? There's nothing else in

2039
01:58:42,300 --> 01:58:43,470
it and it comes in a candidate.

2040
01:58:44,460 --> 01:58:47,220
John C Dvorak: It didn't add any
electrolytes. Is it

2041
01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:49,440
Adam Curry: carbonated? Because
when I heard this, it is

2042
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:50,760
John C Dvorak: sparkling.
Sparkling.

2043
01:58:52,230 --> 01:58:56,100
Adam Curry: So I this kind of
accentuates what I think is

2044
01:58:56,100 --> 01:59:00,840
bullcrap. Which is that
depression is your brain

2045
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:05,820
chemistry. Oh, no, it's nothing
you can do. It's not how your

2046
01:59:05,820 --> 01:59:09,270
thinking was not the thoughts.
No, it's your brain chemistry.

2047
01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:12,750
And now they can lead you to
being brainwashed. Now they can

2048
01:59:12,750 --> 01:59:16,680
measure that in the blood
somehow. So that'll be even

2049
01:59:16,710 --> 01:59:20,100
easier. Oh, Doc, I feel kind of
depressed. Let me just prick

2050
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:22,890
your finger up. Yep, yep, yep,
yep, yep, yep, good to go.

2051
01:59:22,890 --> 01:59:25,800
Here's the medication. And then
when you're depressed, well,

2052
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,170
that's really bad for your
immunity.

2053
01:59:28,650 --> 01:59:31,320
Unknown: We've long known stress
can hamper immunity. And now

2054
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,140
doctors have figured out why
Mount Sinai researchers

2055
01:59:34,140 --> 01:59:37,800
discovered stress increases an
enzyme in the blood which

2056
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:41,370
travels to the brain, altering
the function of neurons. They

2057
01:59:41,370 --> 01:59:44,220
have heard neurons lead to
behavioral changes and reduced

2058
01:59:44,220 --> 01:59:47,520
immune function. Study authors
say knowing the mind body

2059
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,910
mechanism. They hope to target
the protein to treat stress

2060
01:59:50,910 --> 01:59:54,120
related mental health as well as
immune and nervous system

2061
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,540
diseases. And they believe
testing for the protein could

2062
01:59:57,540 --> 02:00:00,120
help them identify patients in
need of treatment. You

2063
02:00:01,319 --> 02:00:04,379
John C Dvorak: see a lot of
expensive testing? Yes, by the

2064
02:00:04,379 --> 02:00:08,729
way is so so depression equals
stress. I'd ever heard that

2065
02:00:08,729 --> 02:00:09,389
before. Yes.

2066
02:00:09,390 --> 02:00:12,540
Adam Curry: And that equals low
immunity, which is why the shots

2067
02:00:12,540 --> 02:00:18,120
didn't work. Don't you get it?
Oh, get it asked because I get

2068
02:00:18,900 --> 02:00:21,570
stressed you're stressed. That's
why the shots don't work your

2069
02:00:21,570 --> 02:00:24,960
immunity depletes. So you should
probably have another booster.

2070
02:00:27,210 --> 02:00:30,090
John C Dvorak: Booster covalent.
Now, now,

2071
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,600
Adam Curry: let's look at mRNA.
Because there's a lot of

2072
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:40,110
exciting news about mRNA. We
have Oh, my goodness, cancer

2073
02:00:40,110 --> 02:00:44,430
vaccines being trialed a dawn of
a new age of treatments, it's

2074
02:00:44,430 --> 02:00:50,730
all mRNA. And Bill Gates, the
gift who keeps on giving, he

2075
02:00:50,730 --> 02:00:55,800
really really let it all hang
out in this one minute clip, as

2076
02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:01,290
he admits, admits what we've all
been thinking and talking about

2077
02:01:01,290 --> 02:01:05,070
or been told was conspiracy
theory about the lipo nano nano

2078
02:01:05,070 --> 02:01:10,470
particles. You know, they were
the lipid nanoparticles, self

2079
02:01:10,500 --> 02:01:15,180
assembling and doing stuff too.
You know, that's just conspiracy

2080
02:01:15,180 --> 02:01:18,210
theory, listen to how jacked he
is about mRNA.

2081
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:21,870
Unknown: Making the mRNA is
really easy and really cheap.

2082
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,100
Adam Curry: Really, really not
just easy, it's easy and cheap.

2083
02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:26,400
Making

2084
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:30,420
Unknown: the mRNA is really easy
and really cheap. And that's the

2085
02:01:30,420 --> 02:01:34,590
magic of this thing. But there's
no doubt in the next five years,

2086
02:01:34,860 --> 02:01:38,400
we can, you know, we just need
to mess around. There's a lot of

2087
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:39,060
lipid now,

2088
02:01:39,300 --> 02:01:41,640
Adam Curry: you would just mess
around a little bit with it, you

2089
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:44,280
would just put this we've
already been trying it for the

2090
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:47,550
past few years and the COVID
chessell Misurata. We

2091
02:01:47,550 --> 02:01:50,370
Unknown: can, you know, we just
seem to mess around. There's a

2092
02:01:50,370 --> 02:01:54,210
lot of lipid nanoparticles, and
some are very self assembling.

2093
02:01:54,210 --> 02:01:56,250
There's no one here. Whoa.

2094
02:01:57,330 --> 02:02:00,960
Adam Curry: So first, he laughs
hills. There's a lot of lipid

2095
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,530
nanoparticles. I mean, what
there's just in your desk

2096
02:02:04,530 --> 02:02:09,210
drawer, or does he mean in
people already, and they're self

2097
02:02:09,210 --> 02:02:10,890
assembling already, you

2098
02:02:10,890 --> 02:02:13,290
Unknown: know, we just seem to
mess around. There's a lot of

2099
02:02:13,290 --> 02:02:16,650
lipid nanoparticles. And some
are very self assembling.

2100
02:02:16,650 --> 02:02:19,410
There's no inherent reason it's
not thermal stable. It's not

2101
02:02:19,410 --> 02:02:23,370
cheap, and it's not scalable.
And so as over the five years,

2102
02:02:23,370 --> 02:02:28,710
we fix that part of it mature
it, which is very typical. We'll

2103
02:02:28,710 --> 02:02:33,210
be able to build factories
worldwide, that make $2 vaccines

2104
02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:37,770
with even less lead time than
we've had to have here during

2105
02:02:37,770 --> 02:02:42,600
this pandemic. And we'll use
those as you suggest. For every

2106
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:46,350
disease that we don't have
vaccines, we will try mRNA. In

2107
02:02:46,350 --> 02:02:49,740
fact, for HIV, we have multiple
ways. One that's more of a B

2108
02:02:49,740 --> 02:02:52,650
cell approach one that's more of
a T cell approach. You know,

2109
02:02:52,650 --> 02:02:55,650
from malaria, we have multiple
ideas for TB, we have multiple

2110
02:02:55,650 --> 02:03:01,770
ideas. And so to fill in the
missing vaccines, we will we'll

2111
02:03:01,770 --> 02:03:05,700
make a lot of our bets of the
Gates Foundation, and others who

2112
02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:11,640
care about global health. We'll
be mRNA focused Yay.

2113
02:03:13,170 --> 02:03:18,450
Adam Curry: I recommend probably
not taking it. Whatever he comes

2114
02:03:18,450 --> 02:03:25,260
up with. And someone reminded me
of a bill that has been in

2115
02:03:25,260 --> 02:03:27,540
Congress or don't it's not come
to the floor it's probably in

2116
02:03:27,540 --> 02:03:36,270
committees. Senate Bill 596
Which re explains a lot of the a

2117
02:03:36,270 --> 02:03:41,670
lot of the push of the GLP one
the semaglutide drugs will go V

2118
02:03:41,670 --> 02:03:47,010
ozempic etc. It is called the
treat and reduce reduce obesity

2119
02:03:47,010 --> 02:03:52,980
act and it spells out that they
want these drugs to be on

2120
02:03:52,980 --> 02:03:53,550
Medicare

2121
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,160
John C Dvorak: yeah because it's
it's easy money.

2122
02:03:56,220 --> 02:04:01,500
Adam Curry: It's very easy money
and Novo Nordisk just bought the

2123
02:04:01,500 --> 02:04:08,280
manufacturing company that makes
the injectables Yeah. Which is

2124
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:12,300
now I heard on DHL unplugged
that's one of the only companies

2125
02:04:12,300 --> 02:04:13,320
that does that.

2126
02:04:15,150 --> 02:04:17,790
John C Dvorak: I think that's
what we discovered $16

2127
02:04:17,790 --> 02:04:21,090
Adam Curry: billion acquisition
no slouch

2128
02:04:21,090 --> 02:04:22,110
John C Dvorak: acquisition now
it's

2129
02:04:22,110 --> 02:04:25,650
Adam Curry: a great acquisition.
But

2130
02:04:27,930 --> 02:04:34,770
John C Dvorak: I have a I don't
know what this is. It's probably

2131
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,710
anymore I've COVID clips, no

2132
02:04:37,710 --> 02:04:40,800
Adam Curry: more clips. I'm just
looking if I had any other any

2133
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:41,460
other.

2134
02:04:43,020 --> 02:04:45,630
John C Dvorak: I have two weird
offbeat clips that we can

2135
02:04:45,630 --> 02:04:49,650
interrupt things with. Okay. I
want to Rona is out false claim

2136
02:04:49,650 --> 02:04:50,100
clip.

2137
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:54,780
Adam Curry: Right the second
Rona is out false claim clip is

2138
02:04:54,780 --> 02:04:55,500
this Amy?

2139
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,440
John C Dvorak: No Amy, I do not
have any today,

2140
02:04:58,470 --> 02:05:00,780
Unknown: okay in other political
news As the chair of the

2141
02:05:00,780 --> 02:05:04,410
Republican National Committee,
Ronna McDaniel, has reportedly

2142
02:05:04,410 --> 02:05:07,440
agreed to resign after coming
under intense pressure from

2143
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:11,010
Donald Trump. McDaniel plans to
step down after the South

2144
02:05:11,010 --> 02:05:14,520
Carolina primary. Trump is
reportedly pushing from Michael

2145
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:18,300
Watley, the chair of the North
Carolina Republican Party to

2146
02:05:18,300 --> 02:05:22,590
become the new head of the RNC.
What Lee is a prominent election

2147
02:05:22,590 --> 02:05:26,370
denier who endorsed Trump's
false claims about the 2020

2148
02:05:26,370 --> 02:05:27,900
election being stolen?

2149
02:05:28,350 --> 02:05:30,180
Adam Curry: Hold on a sec. Okay,
hold on. I have a question.

2150
02:05:30,210 --> 02:05:32,310
John C Dvorak: I get a question.
Okay.

2151
02:05:32,460 --> 02:05:35,040
Adam Curry: If Trump can just
make everybody vote no,

2152
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:38,430
including Chuck Schumer, I mean,
why why does he have to go

2153
02:05:38,430 --> 02:05:41,610
through a hole weird Kenny just
call up and say Rona, you're

2154
02:05:41,610 --> 02:05:45,300
out. New lady you're in I mean,
doesn't have a

2155
02:05:45,300 --> 02:05:47,970
John C Dvorak: bunch of people
that have to vote her in or they

2156
02:05:47,970 --> 02:05:50,700
already he already tried to get
her out like a year ago, and he

2157
02:05:50,700 --> 02:05:55,020
couldn't do it. voted her in it
was powerful. Now he's where he

2158
02:05:55,020 --> 02:05:58,830
is powerful enough to influence
a couple of people. But I want

2159
02:05:58,830 --> 02:06:03,000
to the reason I play this clip
is because I want to reiterate

2160
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:07,680
the bad journalism. And it's
done by all the networks as done

2161
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:13,020
by Amy's group and everyone else
to use the term false claim.

2162
02:06:13,770 --> 02:06:14,310
Adam Curry: Yes,

2163
02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:17,820
John C Dvorak: it's either a
claim, or it's not a claim. It's

2164
02:06:17,820 --> 02:06:23,040
not. You can't have a false
claim. You just like claim, you

2165
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:27,360
claim that the moonlit landing
never happened. That's your

2166
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:30,360
claim. That's what you're you
use based on a belief of yours.

2167
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:32,370
It's not a false claim.

2168
02:06:32,430 --> 02:06:34,620
Adam Curry: It's a claim
science.

2169
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,470
John C Dvorak: What is a false
claim that word makes the or

2170
02:06:37,470 --> 02:06:42,720
that phrase makes zero sense.
And it's only used to to target

2171
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:46,860
the individual being, in this
case, Trump to make him look

2172
02:06:46,860 --> 02:06:49,710
like he's a liar because they
like to promote the idea that

2173
02:06:49,710 --> 02:06:54,720
he's a liar. Well, nobody even
cares about about Biden's you

2174
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:58,260
know, talking about a liar. In
fact, let's play Biden talking

2175
02:06:58,260 --> 02:06:59,190
to Mitterrand.

2176
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:03,360
Unknown: Last night, Joe Biden
did his first campaign rally of

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the 2024 election in Las Vegas,
Nevada. And during his speech,

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he claimed to have recently met
with a French president who died

2179
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Hold

2180
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:18,480
Adam Curry: on a second, proper
use of the word. Indeed, proper

2181
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:21,630
use of the word so you said they
all do it. In fact, your claim

2182
02:07:21,630 --> 02:07:28,260
was false. It was my claim. You
claim that all journalists do

2183
02:07:28,260 --> 02:07:28,740
this.

2184
02:07:30,450 --> 02:07:33,990
John C Dvorak: No, I'm talking
about you didn't say false

2185
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:34,680
claim. No, I

2186
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:36,870
Adam Curry: know. That's what
I'm say. You said all

2187
02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:38,400
journalists use this so he's a

2188
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:42,150
John C Dvorak: journalist. He's
a tick tock tick tock are much

2189
02:07:42,150 --> 02:07:45,330
Unknown: better than journalism
in Las Vegas, Nevada. And during

2190
02:07:45,330 --> 02:07:49,230
his speech he claimed to have
recently met with a French

2191
02:07:49,230 --> 02:07:53,700
president who died over three
decades ago. Yeah, this guy is

2192
02:07:53,700 --> 02:07:54,300
losing it.

2193
02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:59,430
Right right after I was elected,
I went to what they call a g7

2194
02:07:59,430 --> 02:08:05,940
meeting all the NATO favors I
was in South England and I sat

2195
02:08:05,940 --> 02:08:11,100
down and I said America's back
and later on from Germany I mean

2196
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:11,910
from France

2197
02:08:20,010 --> 02:08:26,280
John C Dvorak: wait how long you
back this is great sadness of

2198
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:29,640
that is that this actually kind
of a funny line and he managed

2199
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:34,530
to deliver it well. But
Mitterrand Miran was

2200
02:08:34,530 --> 02:08:37,110
Adam Curry: dead. Well, first he
said made around was from

2201
02:08:37,110 --> 02:08:40,710
Germany, then he was French
makes it even. Yeah, but you

2202
02:08:40,710 --> 02:08:44,100
know what they say? Dead people
start to see dead people are

2203
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:46,080
almost dead people. When you're
about to die, you see dead

2204
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,750
people. Maybe he's on the verge.
Now maybe he's seeing dead

2205
02:08:48,750 --> 02:08:49,170
people

2206
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:54,150
John C Dvorak: might be possible
and shaking his head on the

2207
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:55,920
podium with people that aren't
there.

2208
02:08:58,980 --> 02:09:01,950
Adam Curry: Okay, here's one for
you because this is something

2209
02:09:01,950 --> 02:09:04,950
that you are an expert on you do
this test yourself from time to

2210
02:09:04,950 --> 02:09:09,180
time a quality. This is not just
a quality but a quantity test

2211
02:09:09,180 --> 02:09:10,740
and people are getting pissed
off.

2212
02:09:10,770 --> 02:09:12,930
Unknown: McDonald's is
acknowledging it's time to put

2213
02:09:12,930 --> 02:09:15,900
affordability back on the menu
and add more options to its

2214
02:09:15,900 --> 02:09:18,960
dollar menu. Its stock took a
hit this week after the fast

2215
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,600
food giant reported a recent
drop in visits by its key

2216
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:25,800
customers who make $45,000 a
year or less. And a lot of

2217
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:27,990
people have taken to social
media to complain about it.

2218
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:32,220
Joining us now is Vanessa your
cabbage. So Vanessa McDonald

2219
02:09:32,220 --> 02:09:35,760
says with inflation cooling down
to the supermarket, eating at

2220
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:39,570
home is becoming the more
affordable choice for many here

2221
02:09:39,690 --> 02:09:42,570
always has been put go to
McDonald's because it's fast.

2222
02:09:42,570 --> 02:09:45,420
It's reliable and it's
affordable and tasty. And for

2223
02:09:45,420 --> 02:09:48,570
many Americans right now they're
saying that's just not the case.

2224
02:09:48,810 --> 02:09:52,290
And that is because to buy
groceries and eat at home.

2225
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:59,430
Prices are only up 1.3% Compare
that to going out to dinner 5.2%

2226
02:09:59,730 --> 02:10:03,030
below Get McDonald's prices.
They have said that they've had

2227
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:05,310
to raise prices by 10%.

2228
02:10:07,710 --> 02:10:10,980
Adam Curry: This is great. This
is fantastic. They're crazy.

2229
02:10:10,980 --> 02:10:15,870
It's I mean, the quality is just
crap. It's getting worse.

2230
02:10:15,900 --> 02:10:18,150
Really? When's the last time you
went? Don't you always go to try

2231
02:10:18,150 --> 02:10:18,900
and eat a burger? I

2232
02:10:18,900 --> 02:10:22,860
John C Dvorak: go orderly. I've
got a I've got a visit coming.

2233
02:10:25,950 --> 02:10:29,730
I'm not sure when I'm gonna go.
But when I do, I'll be reporting

2234
02:10:29,730 --> 02:10:30,150
in.

2235
02:10:30,300 --> 02:10:34,650
Adam Curry: But the hashbrown.
One hashbrowns. Were even tried

2236
02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:37,440
$3 $3

2237
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:39,570
John C Dvorak: You know what
your potato costs are,

2238
02:10:39,570 --> 02:10:42,180
Adam Curry: you can get three
pounds for three more.

2239
02:10:42,810 --> 02:10:45,060
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you haven't
hashbrowns for the rest of your

2240
02:10:45,060 --> 02:10:46,350
life. But this but

2241
02:10:46,380 --> 02:10:48,480
Adam Curry: you know, these are
trends, you know. So the trend

2242
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:53,190
is going to be more eating at
home. This, this is a cleansing

2243
02:10:53,190 --> 02:10:53,760
and a shaking.

2244
02:10:54,540 --> 02:10:56,970
John C Dvorak: Bunch of I didn't
get again, I didn't get clips on

2245
02:10:56,970 --> 02:11:00,180
this, but I didn't think about
it. There was a bunch of reports

2246
02:11:00,180 --> 02:11:05,250
recently about I think there's
mostly played on Fox on the fact

2247
02:11:05,250 --> 02:11:10,710
that the Gen Z in particular,
don't go to bars. They drink at

2248
02:11:10,710 --> 02:11:13,710
home, and they're not gonna go
to bars because it's too

2249
02:11:13,710 --> 02:11:17,550
expensive. By the way, as
opposed to Gen Xers. We used to

2250
02:11:17,550 --> 02:11:23,790
do a kind of a show on me the
old that was a Gen X show, I'd

2251
02:11:23,790 --> 02:11:26,220
have all these Gen X and we
talked about stuff including

2252
02:11:26,490 --> 02:11:29,580
their drinking habits and they
were all a bunch of alcoholics.

2253
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:35,580
Gen X are a bunch of drunks with
the Gen Z's or if you're if

2254
02:11:35,580 --> 02:11:37,350
they're drunk show is going to
know it because they stay at

2255
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:38,070
home. You

2256
02:11:38,070 --> 02:11:41,340
Adam Curry: can't you if you go
out. I don't know when the last

2257
02:11:41,340 --> 02:11:41,940
time you went

2258
02:11:41,940 --> 02:11:44,100
John C Dvorak: out and had to
drive went out to the mallard

2259
02:11:44,100 --> 02:11:45,510
club for the meetup was

2260
02:11:46,110 --> 02:11:48,900
Adam Curry: a glass of wine
these days. If you just want a

2261
02:11:48,900 --> 02:11:51,660
glass of wine and Tina and I
don't drink much, please have a

2262
02:11:51,660 --> 02:11:56,340
glass of wine. 30 bucks for two
glasses of wine. Yes.

2263
02:11:56,550 --> 02:11:59,490
John C Dvorak: Now that you got
ripped off? Well, you must be

2264
02:11:59,490 --> 02:12:02,730
going to your places you're
going to or too expensive. Well,

2265
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:05,340
or is that Texas wine. They
always overcharge for that

2266
02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:05,790
stuff.

2267
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:08,490
Adam Curry: We do. There's this
there's this place that reopened

2268
02:12:08,490 --> 02:12:13,860
called Freedland, which is a
German, like brought house.

2269
02:12:15,390 --> 02:12:19,500
Schnitzel house. Yeah. And
that's fantastic. They give you

2270
02:12:19,500 --> 02:12:20,070
an eight all

2271
02:12:20,070 --> 02:12:23,010
John C Dvorak: German German
town like Fredericksburg. I hope

2272
02:12:23,010 --> 02:12:24,210
they have something like Oh
yeah,

2273
02:12:24,210 --> 02:12:27,030
Adam Curry: it's really good.
And it's really that's

2274
02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:30,570
affordable. They do have these
places, and it's better

2275
02:12:30,570 --> 02:12:34,980
ingredients. The wine, you just
say you got a Cabernet, it's got

2276
02:12:34,980 --> 02:12:38,730
some fancy name on the menu. I
don't know where it's from. They

2277
02:12:38,730 --> 02:12:41,520
bring it to you in a big glass.
It's really heavy. You know,

2278
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:43,920
it's like the kind that if it
falls over, it'll never break.

2279
02:12:45,870 --> 02:12:51,630
Even though it has a stamp. And
German. Yeah, it's $9. You know,

2280
02:12:51,660 --> 02:12:55,260
that's, that's more reasonable
as eight ounce pour. That's more

2281
02:12:55,260 --> 02:12:59,160
reasonable for a restaurant
wine. But yeah, yeah, I'd say

2282
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:02,910
everything is everything is
unaffordable. The Ubers are

2283
02:13:02,910 --> 02:13:06,660
unaffordable. I mean, it's what
they call that inflation. Yes,

2284
02:13:06,660 --> 02:13:11,580
that's what it is. Now, my last
clip before we take a break, we

2285
02:13:11,580 --> 02:13:15,660
talked during the pandemic, and
I'm pretty sure we put it in the

2286
02:13:15,660 --> 02:13:17,970
Red Book. I haven't been able to
find the clip yet. I think we

2287
02:13:17,970 --> 02:13:22,020
put it in the Red Book that
people would probably never want

2288
02:13:22,020 --> 02:13:27,450
to go back to work in office
buildings. You may have in watch

2289
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:30,120
that people would not want to go
back to work at the office that

2290
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:32,520
John C Dvorak: they want study
office. Yeah, they rather work

2291
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:33,450
from home. Yeah, well, I

2292
02:13:33,450 --> 02:13:35,790
Adam Curry: think you even said
no, because I look at all this

2293
02:13:35,790 --> 02:13:40,470
technology they're building and
and zoom exploded and slack

2294
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:44,610
exploded and Microsoft teams got
used for everything. And now

2295
02:13:44,610 --> 02:13:49,230
they just can't get them back.
And commercial real estate.

2296
02:13:49,230 --> 02:13:51,600
That's the big talk here, then,
but by the

2297
02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:56,070
John C Dvorak: way, let's stop
and make mention here. What if

2298
02:13:56,070 --> 02:13:59,730
you've worked from home? I mean,
I've been at the home office guy

2299
02:13:59,730 --> 02:14:02,790
forever. But if you work from
home and you enjoy it and you

2300
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:05,400
think you're productive and
you're doing it during the

2301
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:07,650
pandemic, and you're
everything's going fine and

2302
02:14:07,650 --> 02:14:10,290
you're getting your work done
and everything why would you

2303
02:14:10,290 --> 02:14:12,780
want to go back to the office
and why would they want you back

2304
02:14:12,780 --> 02:14:15,570
in the office when you're doing
just fine? I think there's I

2305
02:14:15,570 --> 02:14:18,690
think there's a in the brains of
the home of the people that work

2306
02:14:18,690 --> 02:14:22,290
at home and like working at home
they don't understand why they

2307
02:14:22,290 --> 02:14:24,330
should go back to the office
when they know they're not as

2308
02:14:24,330 --> 02:14:25,170
productive. They're

2309
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:30,240
Adam Curry: agreed. But it's a
real problem because we do not

2310
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,700
have solutions for the
commercial real estate.

2311
02:14:33,450 --> 02:14:34,650
John C Dvorak: Course Nope.

2312
02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:38,610
Adam Curry: By the by the way. I
think my my prediction of Apple

2313
02:14:38,610 --> 02:14:43,950
vision Pro is coming true. This
is exactly not this version will

2314
02:14:43,950 --> 02:14:46,830
take another version. This is
exactly what people are living

2315
02:14:46,830 --> 02:14:50,520
in their little home pods. You
know your little five by five

2316
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:54,840
house. You know with your bed in
the living room. This is called

2317
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:57,840
a tiny home. Yeah, tiny home.
This is what everybody's going

2318
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:01,620
to love. And just have your big
makes the house look bigger. You

2319
02:15:01,620 --> 02:15:03,300
have your big monster screen
mirrors

2320
02:15:03,300 --> 02:15:05,430
John C Dvorak: on the walls and
we put one of those glasses on

2321
02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:07,200
boom, Pierre the mansion. People
think

2322
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:09,390
Adam Curry: this is a dumb idea.
This is dumb product. I think

2323
02:15:09,390 --> 02:15:11,970
it's a big winner. It'll be the
next version. That'll be the big

2324
02:15:11,970 --> 02:15:17,820
winner. It's a winner. It's a
winner. I don't like it. No, it

2325
02:15:17,820 --> 02:15:20,730
looks horrible. But I think it's
going to glass all over it then

2326
02:15:20,730 --> 02:15:26,310
better than Google Glass because
it is it spatial computing. This

2327
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:29,040
not V VR AR Mr. Mix gonna

2328
02:15:29,250 --> 02:15:30,150
John C Dvorak: ruin your brain?

2329
02:15:30,180 --> 02:15:32,940
Adam Curry: It's Yes. Well, how
much more can we ruin? It's

2330
02:15:32,940 --> 02:15:40,170
great. Now this, this is exactly
what we need. This is the future

2331
02:15:40,170 --> 02:15:44,040
of the work from home worker,
and everyone will be doing it.

2332
02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:48,390
But the commercial real estate,
I don't I have no ideas for it.

2333
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:52,410
Other than putting the new
comers in there, which is

2334
02:15:52,410 --> 02:15:56,310
probably the way to go. And our
Secretary of the Treasury is

2335
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:57,540
kind of concerned.

2336
02:15:57,630 --> 02:16:00,690
Unknown: Yes, I do have a
concern about commercial real

2337
02:16:00,690 --> 02:16:06,660
estate. We discussed it in the F
sock annual report, and F sock

2338
02:16:06,660 --> 02:16:12,660
has been quite focused on it.
The banking supervisors have

2339
02:16:12,660 --> 02:16:19,140
also been focused on commercial
real estate and are working

2340
02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:25,110
closely with the banks they
supervise, to discuss ways to

2341
02:16:25,110 --> 02:16:31,440
manage and work with borrowers
who have problems. There, in

2342
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:37,530
some cases, working to make sure
that loan loss reserves are

2343
02:16:37,530 --> 02:16:44,370
built up to cover losses that
dividend policies are

2344
02:16:44,370 --> 02:16:50,880
appropriate that liquidity is
adequate. So the higher interest

2345
02:16:50,880 --> 02:16:55,680
rate environment, and in some
cases, particularly the case of

2346
02:16:55,680 --> 02:17:01,410
office building, shifts in work
patterns due to the pandemic

2347
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:07,740
coupled with many commercial
real estate loans coming due and

2348
02:17:07,830 --> 02:17:13,020
needing to be financed,
refinanced in a context where

2349
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:20,430
vacancy rates in some cities are
quite high, is going to put a

2350
02:17:20,430 --> 02:17:25,710
lot of stress on the owners of
these properties. And so lately,

2351
02:17:26,670 --> 02:17:30,810
the banking agencies are very
focused in helping the banks

2352
02:17:30,840 --> 02:17:35,790
manage, manage through these
situations. So you're concerned

2353
02:17:35,790 --> 02:17:43,830
but not distressed? Yes, I mean,
yes, I'm concerned. I believe

2354
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:48,870
it's manageable, although there
may be some institutions that

2355
02:17:48,870 --> 02:17:50,310
are quite stressed by this

2356
02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:55,829
Adam Curry: problem. Yeah, like
those regional banks. That

2357
02:17:55,829 --> 02:17:58,259
doesn't seem to be going too
well again, do you think they

2358
02:17:58,259 --> 02:18:01,379
can keep it together until the
until the collapse when Trump is

2359
02:18:01,379 --> 02:18:01,679
in

2360
02:18:02,430 --> 02:18:04,200
John C Dvorak: as is our thesis?
Oh, yeah, that shouldn't be a

2361
02:18:04,200 --> 02:18:05,220
problem. How do they

2362
02:18:05,730 --> 02:18:07,500
Adam Curry: how do you do it
with the interest rates aren't

2363
02:18:07,500 --> 02:18:10,770
being cut so the refinance is
all coming up?

2364
02:18:12,059 --> 02:18:15,209
John C Dvorak: You do this
there's tricks of accounting

2365
02:18:15,479 --> 02:18:19,079
trickery for the banks I don't
know about New York's community

2366
02:18:19,079 --> 02:18:21,869
is the big one that's it looks
like it's gonna fail but yeah,

2367
02:18:22,109 --> 02:18:27,539
yeah. But it can sneak through
New York communities that one

2368
02:18:27,539 --> 02:18:30,329
day they gave Signature Bank to
and it was a very interesting

2369
02:18:30,419 --> 02:18:33,809
isn't that bad first days here
take this take that take this

2370
02:18:33,809 --> 02:18:35,069
and now live with it.

2371
02:18:36,299 --> 02:18:39,209
Adam Curry: Yeah, now they can't
do they just make one bank take

2372
02:18:39,209 --> 02:18:41,219
all the bad stuff and then blow
that one?

2373
02:18:41,669 --> 02:18:44,279
John C Dvorak: That's a pretty
good trick like that's one trick

2374
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:46,199
but they're gonna affect the
other thing was there is an

2375
02:18:46,199 --> 02:18:50,069
issue with the you look at these
empty buildings, they're all

2376
02:18:50,069 --> 02:18:53,309
over them and they were building
and right through COVID You

2377
02:18:53,309 --> 02:18:56,519
know, the skyline you could tell
you were putting up bigger and

2378
02:18:56,519 --> 02:18:59,759
bigger buildings in New York is
the one that you know if you

2379
02:18:59,759 --> 02:19:03,239
remember, we discussed this that
the storefronts are all this was

2380
02:19:03,239 --> 02:19:06,059
before COVID, the storefronts
and they were buttoning

2381
02:19:06,059 --> 02:19:08,849
everything up in New York and it
was kind of half dead because

2382
02:19:08,849 --> 02:19:12,899
they were holding out the
landlord's you're holding out

2383
02:19:12,899 --> 02:19:13,859
for more money

2384
02:19:14,820 --> 02:19:16,050
Adam Curry: for the flip for the
flip.

2385
02:19:17,070 --> 02:19:19,200
John C Dvorak: And they never it
never happened because COVID

2386
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,420
showed up and the next thing you
know these guys are stuck

2387
02:19:21,420 --> 02:19:26,700
holding the bag of, you know,
useless real estate. High end

2388
02:19:26,700 --> 02:19:30,480
real estate. Warren Buffett 10
years ago. I think he got out of

2389
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:33,810
most of it and told everyone to
get into rentals.

2390
02:19:34,920 --> 02:19:38,430
Adam Curry: Well, so what's
happening here on Main Street is

2391
02:19:38,430 --> 02:19:43,470
rents went from for typical
store from $10,000 a month to

2392
02:19:43,470 --> 02:19:47,850
$30,000 a month. Frederick's
yeah stores are closing left.

2393
02:19:47,850 --> 02:19:54,120
Why? Because the the owners of
these properties who don't live

2394
02:19:54,120 --> 02:19:59,670
here who just invested they,
they probably have to get more

2395
02:19:59,670 --> 02:20:05,910
money. to pay off the note
that's what I'm thinking it's

2396
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:09,960
commercial real estate's the
same issue. And the stores is

2397
02:20:09,960 --> 02:20:16,680
like, nope. Except for the this
is one store. I think that just

2398
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:21,210
money laundering it's like some
Lebanese in there or something.

2399
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:24,690
I don't know what they're doing.
I never see anyone in the store.

2400
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:27,300
John C Dvorak: Yeah, when I see
a store that's always empty is

2401
02:20:27,420 --> 02:20:31,290
big and they realize a lot of
money there as money locked in,

2402
02:20:31,290 --> 02:20:35,340
there's gotta be there was a
store. I can't remember this was

2403
02:20:35,340 --> 02:20:38,910
years ago, but I remember that
place and Horowitz and I talked

2404
02:20:38,910 --> 02:20:42,150
about it and then that turned
out to be one in San Francisco

2405
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:44,580
that I went by and it was
exactly like what you're

2406
02:20:44,580 --> 02:20:50,610
describing nobody a big store.
Nobody's in the place at all.

2407
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:55,680
And and it was has to be some
sort of money laundering

2408
02:20:55,680 --> 02:20:57,390
operation for the drug business.

2409
02:20:57,420 --> 02:21:01,290
Adam Curry: But we're seeing the
same with you know, we have 25%

2410
02:21:01,290 --> 02:21:06,750
of our housing here is Airbnb or
used to be b&b. Let's just call

2411
02:21:06,750 --> 02:21:11,520
Airbnb. And people are having to
sell those now because of the

2412
02:21:12,090 --> 02:21:16,140
the taxes. If you want to come
to Fredericksburg, stay in an

2413
02:21:16,140 --> 02:21:20,700
Airbnb. You're it's you have to
take two nights, you can't just

2414
02:21:20,700 --> 02:21:23,130
have one night, you have to take
two nights and before I know

2415
02:21:23,130 --> 02:21:28,500
it's like two grand. Like no, go
to Mexico go to Mexico. Why

2416
02:21:28,500 --> 02:21:31,470
would you come here? Yeah, this
but I think this problem is

2417
02:21:31,470 --> 02:21:32,610
everywhere right now.

2418
02:21:32,940 --> 02:21:35,040
John C Dvorak: I think so too. I
know. It's a case in Port

2419
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:38,940
Angeles where Mimi is in the
planning commission, because

2420
02:21:38,940 --> 02:21:42,270
they're trying to kill all the
Airbnbs up there, even though

2421
02:21:42,270 --> 02:21:47,490
they're run by people just on a
fixed income. Yeah, they there's

2422
02:21:47,490 --> 02:21:51,510
no real reason for that. Oh, no,
this is no good. Can't have this

2423
02:21:51,540 --> 02:21:55,980
in our bustling town, which is,
you know, half dead anyway.

2424
02:21:57,360 --> 02:22:01,140
Adam Curry: All right. 111
upbeat clip. Just before we take

2425
02:22:01,140 --> 02:22:04,170
this break, so we can just
refresh our minds for a second

2426
02:22:04,170 --> 02:22:04,800
get back to the

2427
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:08,400
Unknown: Opticon is just as
Taylor Swift obsessed as the

2428
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:12,000
United States. But it's not just
about the fandom. It's also

2429
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:15,540
about the economic revenue.
Experts tell us that Taylor

2430
02:22:15,540 --> 02:22:20,040
Swift Four Day concert will
generate more than 230 million

2431
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:23,580
US dollars for Japan. Now the
burning question that I'm sure

2432
02:22:23,580 --> 02:22:27,690
is on both of your mind. In my
mind, will Taylor Swift make it

2433
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:31,500
back in time by Superbowl Sunday
to kiss her boyfriend Travis

2434
02:22:31,500 --> 02:22:34,980
Kelce. Now I'm no betting woman
but I'm going to say with quite

2435
02:22:34,980 --> 02:22:37,320
a bit of confidence that she
will make it back in time.

2436
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:39,930
It does not take time travel,
just a private jet, which

2437
02:22:39,930 --> 02:22:44,190
she does own. And you know, she
kind of has to make it back for

2438
02:22:44,190 --> 02:22:46,650
that Super Bowl, because why
else would we watch it? Am I

2439
02:22:46,650 --> 02:22:50,670
right? Well, you're definitely
right. That is the burning

2440
02:22:50,670 --> 02:22:53,460
question Phil has been bothering
me about since three o'clock

2441
02:22:53,460 --> 02:22:58,080
this morning. Will Taylor Swift
be able to kiss Travis Kelce

2442
02:22:58,350 --> 02:23:01,650
think about all he thinks about
and like go thank you very much.

2443
02:23:01,740 --> 02:23:04,620
Adam Curry: All right. Here's my
prediction. I might as well give

2444
02:23:04,620 --> 02:23:06,240
it now we can do it with you
John

2445
02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:08,340
John C Dvorak: by the football
game. We have another show

2446
02:23:08,340 --> 02:23:10,200
before the football Yeah, but I
just

2447
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:11,970
Adam Curry: want to put it out
there so I can get everything

2448
02:23:11,970 --> 02:23:17,130
all everybody all jacked up.
This is we are at peak Swift. I

2449
02:23:17,130 --> 02:23:19,200
agree could not be much higher.

2450
02:23:19,620 --> 02:23:21,660
John C Dvorak: She got her
fourth by the way. She got her

2451
02:23:21,660 --> 02:23:25,920
fourth Grammy for Best Album of
the art Album of the Year

2452
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:32,460
topping and the Beatles Well, no
no Stevie Wonder remember, they

2453
02:23:32,460 --> 02:23:35,280
went a period of time with one
wonder was winning and winning

2454
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:35,970
and winning one

2455
02:23:36,060 --> 02:23:38,280
Adam Curry: Stevie Wonder the
musical genius Stevie Wonder.

2456
02:23:38,310 --> 02:23:40,440
Now I know. I know the ground
and

2457
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:42,870
John C Dvorak: say that you can
even hum a Taylor Swift song

2458
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:47,280
Stevie Wonder had so many hits.
Yeah. And the albums were

2459
02:23:47,490 --> 02:23:53,190
killer. And now she's okay.
Well. She was waltzes into the

2460
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:55,500
Grammys during the show.

2461
02:23:55,980 --> 02:23:59,190
Adam Curry: Their fan with her
with her. entourage. Yes,

2462
02:23:59,190 --> 02:24:00,150
entourage. Yes.

2463
02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:04,230
John C Dvorak: It was like what
how did they allow this? Well,

2464
02:24:04,260 --> 02:24:08,640
Adam Curry: it's all a show. Did
you see Olivia Rodrigo? That was

2465
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:11,250
the performance I was waiting
for. Yeah, that's

2466
02:24:11,250 --> 02:24:15,810
John C Dvorak: the satanists.
Rabia, the poor satanist red

2467
02:24:15,810 --> 02:24:18,630
Adam Curry: dress, rubbing blood
over her face in her chest.

2468
02:24:18,930 --> 02:24:23,130
Beautiful. Well done, everybody.
Well done. Well done. Perfect.

2469
02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:28,530
I'm glad to see that they're
still full on dervish, dervish

2470
02:24:28,530 --> 02:24:30,660
SNESs at the Grammys just
beautiful

2471
02:24:30,690 --> 02:24:33,600
John C Dvorak: as it was pretty
well then of course the joke of

2472
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:39,450
the Grammys was Big Mike who
came out and praise God got

2473
02:24:39,450 --> 02:24:42,360
arrested this in a group as as
the way it was put his praising

2474
02:24:42,360 --> 02:24:45,780
God in a group of Satanists.
Yeah. Already got arrested

2475
02:24:45,780 --> 02:24:47,040
immediately thereafter.

2476
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:50,610
Adam Curry: Whoa, that's right.
touch the third rail at the

2477
02:24:50,610 --> 02:24:55,170
Grammys. You can't do that Big
Mike. We all know this. Poor Big

2478
02:24:55,170 --> 02:25:01,650
Mike. Yes. So we're at peak
Taylor peak swift She has not

2479
02:25:01,650 --> 02:25:05,580
adhered to the rule. When you
seek out publicity for your own

2480
02:25:05,580 --> 02:25:09,660
benefit whether you're paid for
it or not. It boomerangs and

2481
02:25:09,690 --> 02:25:16,320
yeah, always, always and so the
one I'm when I'm feeling is

2482
02:25:17,880 --> 02:25:21,150
Kelsey is it Kelsey? Kelsey do
we say Kelsey thing is Kelsey

2483
02:25:21,180 --> 02:25:23,790
Kelsey. Some people say Kelsey,
Travis,

2484
02:25:23,790 --> 02:25:26,070
John C Dvorak: Kelsey do
whatever your nails they say the

2485
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:30,150
family pronounces a Kelsey, the,
the announcers who are

2486
02:25:30,150 --> 02:25:32,760
professionals pronounce it,
Kelsey. It's Kelsey.

2487
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:38,550
Adam Curry: We'll keep it at
Kelsey. Kelsey will fumble the

2488
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:42,270
ball. Yeah, it'll be picked up
by the 40 Niners for the first

2489
02:25:42,270 --> 02:25:46,260
time I live, I'm gonna say Go 40
Niners they will run it all the

2490
02:25:46,260 --> 02:25:50,430
way for a winning touchdown. And
Taylor will get all the blame.

2491
02:25:51,390 --> 02:25:57,150
But they will hype Taylor and
Kelsey by cutting to cutting to

2492
02:25:57,150 --> 02:26:00,180
the aviation map show. Oh, here
she is. She's over the Atlantic

2493
02:26:00,180 --> 02:26:01,020
she's on her way.

2494
02:26:01,050 --> 02:26:03,630
John C Dvorak: Like like Santa
Claus. Yeah, yes. Exactly.

2495
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:08,070
Adam Curry: NORAD will be will
be reporting in if if Taylor

2496
02:26:08,070 --> 02:26:11,340
Swift is on her way. And then
they'll cut away to her she

2497
02:26:11,340 --> 02:26:14,190
could just like what the Grammy
she comes in late. You know,

2498
02:26:14,220 --> 02:26:16,740
probably during the halftime
show the cutaway who's doing the

2499
02:26:16,740 --> 02:26:17,970
halftime show, by the way do we

2500
02:26:17,970 --> 02:26:20,550
John C Dvorak: know? Yeah, I
know. But I can't think of it.

2501
02:26:21,300 --> 02:26:22,410
And then

2502
02:26:22,620 --> 02:26:27,120
Adam Curry: and and then and she
will be blamed for the loss. And

2503
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:29,760
and then she goes as a
distraction. Yes, you'll have to

2504
02:26:29,760 --> 02:26:33,450
sit down for a little while.
She'll be okay. But this mean

2505
02:26:33,450 --> 02:26:36,720
what more could she achieve
other than getting on Elon

2506
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:39,450
Musk's rocket and going to Mars
I mean, there's not much more

2507
02:26:39,450 --> 02:26:42,150
she could achieve. There is no
she

2508
02:26:42,150 --> 02:26:44,550
John C Dvorak: could achieve
making making a really good song

2509
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:45,450
that was achieved.

2510
02:26:46,050 --> 02:26:47,550
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your

2511
02:26:47,550 --> 02:26:50,430
courage in the morning to the
man who put the sea in citizen

2512
02:26:50,430 --> 02:26:53,700
Trump say hello to my friend on
the other end one only Mr. John

2513
02:26:53,700 --> 02:26:54,360
Cena

2514
02:26:56,640 --> 02:26:59,310
John C Dvorak: money UNISTREAM
Karina Myrna ships at sea the

2515
02:26:59,310 --> 02:27:01,050
boots on the ground the feet in
the air. The soldiers in the

2516
02:27:01,050 --> 02:27:03,120
water and the Dames and the
Knights out there in the

2517
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:03,420
morning.

2518
02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:12,420
Adam Curry: Oh my 1742 Bad troll
edge.

2519
02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:18,330
John C Dvorak: Thursday, isn't
it? Yes. Well, the numbers 1800

2520
02:27:18,330 --> 02:27:20,040
We're looking for. It's not bad
at all.

2521
02:27:20,340 --> 02:27:22,410
Adam Curry: Well, what's low
you're supposed to say is low.

2522
02:27:22,980 --> 02:27:24,240
John C Dvorak: It's only low 50.

2523
02:27:24,270 --> 02:27:26,610
Adam Curry: Okay, all right.
Well, I felt it was a little

2524
02:27:26,610 --> 02:27:29,160
low. I just I saw the 17 number
and like the slow.

2525
02:27:29,610 --> 02:27:32,490
John C Dvorak: last Sunday's
number was the low one hours low

2526
02:27:32,490 --> 02:27:33,330
low. Although

2527
02:27:33,330 --> 02:27:35,910
Adam Curry: a lot of like a lot
of people like last Sunday show

2528
02:27:36,570 --> 02:27:38,010
John C Dvorak: these things.
They may have liked it but they

2529
02:27:38,010 --> 02:27:40,440
weren't listening live
necessarily. Oh, that's

2530
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:43,740
Adam Curry: why that's why well,
trolls are here. Trolls are in

2531
02:27:43,740 --> 02:27:48,240
attendance. It's just lowly that
lowly trolls. Maybe they're just

2532
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,300
slow. You're all low, low and
slow. Most

2533
02:27:51,300 --> 02:27:54,420
John C Dvorak: of the countries
got bad weather. So they should

2534
02:27:54,420 --> 02:27:56,760
catch the trolls but they're
digging snow. Maybe they're

2535
02:27:56,760 --> 02:27:58,590
doing things that are more
important than listening to the

2536
02:27:58,590 --> 02:28:02,340
show live there. They can listen
to the show that when they feel

2537
02:28:02,340 --> 02:28:05,250
like they're Yes, yes. They feel
like that's what podcasting is

2538
02:28:05,250 --> 02:28:06,300
all about. Good

2539
02:28:06,300 --> 02:28:09,630
Adam Curry: point. We love our
trolls though, because they keep

2540
02:28:09,630 --> 02:28:14,430
us on our toes. They get us
information. They keep me very

2541
02:28:14,430 --> 02:28:18,000
awake. Because always scrolling
by out of the my peripheral

2542
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:20,520
vision. They're saying horrible
things, you know. And I was

2543
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:24,330
like, JC D is a national
treasure. You know, is that was

2544
02:28:25,290 --> 02:28:25,470
that

2545
02:28:25,470 --> 02:28:27,630
John C Dvorak: a horrible thing?
Well, they say that about you

2546
02:28:27,630 --> 02:28:29,580
eyes, man or woman.

2547
02:28:30,360 --> 02:28:32,550
Adam Curry: But for me, that's
like a Curie, you're full of

2548
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:37,230
crap. I know. It's like, I'm
gonna let you know that you know

2549
02:28:37,230 --> 02:28:37,560
what we

2550
02:28:37,740 --> 02:28:38,670
John C Dvorak: can prevent that?

2551
02:28:39,390 --> 02:28:43,140
Adam Curry: By not looking at,
you know, the trolls,

2552
02:28:43,380 --> 02:28:45,240
John C Dvorak: always looking
for the one liners that somebody

2553
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:48,180
else writes. Yes, fine. That's
what the pros that's,

2554
02:28:48,660 --> 02:28:51,780
Adam Curry: that's yes. Thank
you. Thank you very much. You

2555
02:28:51,780 --> 02:28:56,190
can join the trolls at troll
room.io. It is a live chat room.

2556
02:28:56,400 --> 02:29:00,360
You can also get to it with an
IRC client, one of the oldest

2557
02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:04,020
technologies on the internet,
which is still very valid, it is

2558
02:29:04,020 --> 02:29:07,350
great because you can Internet
Relay Chat, you can sit in the

2559
02:29:07,350 --> 02:29:10,650
Internet Relay Chat all day,
there are trolls logged in all

2560
02:29:10,650 --> 02:29:13,410
the time. There may be some
people who have died and are

2561
02:29:13,410 --> 02:29:16,590
still logged in on the troll
room. I believe that's to be

2562
02:29:16,590 --> 02:29:19,920
true. It's actually could be
true. And login from a Unix

2563
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:22,980
machine at work and then forget
about it. And then you just

2564
02:29:22,980 --> 02:29:26,430
still run and died suddenly and
you're still there.

2565
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:30,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it could be
you could be on a Linux you

2566
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:36,990
could be in a virtual a virtual
connection through running

2567
02:29:36,990 --> 02:29:40,350
through AWS on a subscription
that doesn't get goes on for a

2568
02:29:40,350 --> 02:29:43,680
couple of years. You paid it in
advance, and you'd be in the IRC

2569
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:47,670
dead for years literally. And

2570
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:51,180
Adam Curry: that's a great site.
I got to take a look at some of

2571
02:29:51,180 --> 02:29:54,510
the login times for people who
have been logged in the longest.

2572
02:29:55,500 --> 02:29:57,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we better
just have somebody go by their

2573
02:29:57,780 --> 02:29:58,350
house.

2574
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,510
Adam Curry: You can also get to
this through a number of the

2575
02:30:03,510 --> 02:30:08,010
modern podcast apps. Good news.
Guess who's back on all the

2576
02:30:08,010 --> 02:30:11,880
apps, including the modern
podcast apps? Joe Rogan, Joe

2577
02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:16,830
Rogan? Oh, yeah, he's back. Now
his RSS feed was reactivated.

2578
02:30:17,250 --> 02:30:22,530
And now you have no reason to
use Spotify at all? No,

2579
02:30:22,770 --> 02:30:25,200
John C Dvorak: there was never a
reason in the first place. Yep.

2580
02:30:25,320 --> 02:30:25,980
And

2581
02:30:25,980 --> 02:30:29,040
Adam Curry: you'll recall that
we declined to be on Spotify,

2582
02:30:29,070 --> 02:30:31,350
we're not going to sign any
rights away, because that's what

2583
02:30:31,350 --> 02:30:33,990
you had to do. Yes, you so sign
this piece of paper? Nope, we're

2584
02:30:33,990 --> 02:30:37,830
not gonna do that. And I feel
like we resisted it was good.

2585
02:30:37,830 --> 02:30:41,880
And now, now everybody doesn't
need to default to Spotify, you

2586
02:30:41,880 --> 02:30:45,210
can get color daddy and Joe
Rogan and your no agenda show on

2587
02:30:45,210 --> 02:30:49,320
any modern podcast app at modern
podcast apps.com, which also

2588
02:30:49,320 --> 02:30:54,630
alert you within 90 seconds of
updating the show. And I'm going

2589
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:56,940
to make sure that Joe gets on
that program as well. People

2590
02:30:56,940 --> 02:31:00,030
like that, instead of waiting
around like refreshing, who's up

2591
02:31:00,030 --> 02:31:03,510
yet, you'll get notified
immediately. Same happens with

2592
02:31:03,510 --> 02:31:08,460
our live shows. When we go live,
you get a notification. Value

2593
02:31:08,460 --> 02:31:12,960
for value is how we have
survived. How we've been just

2594
02:31:12,960 --> 02:31:17,160
getting by for all these years,
16 years, you've kept us alive,

2595
02:31:17,160 --> 02:31:19,320
you've kept us going through
your time, your talent, your

2596
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:23,130
treasure, part of that time and
time and talent is the troll

2597
02:31:23,130 --> 02:31:27,270
room, which has been with us for
14 of those 16 years, I think 13

2598
02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:32,010
or 14, that's void zero. He's
just kept that alive and going

2599
02:31:32,010 --> 02:31:36,660
and people do many things for
us, really is quite phenomenal.

2600
02:31:36,660 --> 02:31:40,920
The things that people do for
the show, which is the polar

2601
02:31:40,920 --> 02:31:44,220
opposite of what all the big
money went to do is like, oh,

2602
02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:48,510
we'll just we can take all this
money, we'll hire people hire

2603
02:31:48,510 --> 02:31:52,650
executive producers and
executive executive producers

2604
02:31:52,650 --> 02:31:55,740
and then a boss for those
executive producers. And who

2605
02:31:55,740 --> 02:31:58,980
will make the programming will
be great. It'll be just great.

2606
02:31:58,980 --> 02:32:01,140
We're gonna have hits
everywhere. We don't have to hit

2607
02:32:01,140 --> 02:32:04,230
boy, we don't have a hit. We
have proven that being number

2608
02:32:04,230 --> 02:32:08,130
one doesn't matter. We can
survive and we survive with you.

2609
02:32:08,130 --> 02:32:11,970
And it's also it's your boots on
the ground reports. So many of

2610
02:32:11,970 --> 02:32:15,390
them once again. I mean it just
amazing boots on the ground that

2611
02:32:15,390 --> 02:32:19,770
people give us give us
information that that edifies us

2612
02:32:19,800 --> 02:32:22,350
on the world at General because
everyone's an expert in

2613
02:32:22,350 --> 02:32:24,660
something. When you hear us
talking about

2614
02:32:24,660 --> 02:32:26,730
John C Dvorak: somebody has your
money experts that listen to

2615
02:32:26,730 --> 02:32:27,960
this show. It's amazing.

2616
02:32:28,110 --> 02:32:30,540
Adam Curry: I mean, how much the
how many emails did you get

2617
02:32:30,660 --> 02:32:32,010
about the B one bomber?

2618
02:32:32,910 --> 02:32:35,700
John C Dvorak: I got? Well I
only got two from Super experts

2619
02:32:35,700 --> 02:32:36,630
people that are actually in

2620
02:32:36,630 --> 02:32:39,720
Adam Curry: the field. Did you
know that thing goes Mach two.

2621
02:32:40,260 --> 02:32:40,800
Yeah, no,

2622
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:42,600
John C Dvorak: that's a
fantastic product I didn't

2623
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:44,820
notice I didn't know is called
the bone

2624
02:32:44,880 --> 02:32:49,950
Adam Curry: Bone. Bone. Max you
isn't that the speed of the of

2625
02:32:49,950 --> 02:32:54,150
the concourt Yeah, that's crazy.
I didn't know it

2626
02:32:54,150 --> 02:32:58,290
John C Dvorak: was designed in
1970 I think is the Concorde I

2627
02:32:58,290 --> 02:33:01,620
didn't know is it high altitude
It conquers back in the day to

2628
02:33:01,650 --> 02:33:03,780
high altitude Mach tooth and,

2629
02:33:03,900 --> 02:33:06,540
Adam Curry: and it does not just
carpet bomb. It does surgical

2630
02:33:06,540 --> 02:33:10,380
strikes. So So see, this is the
information that is very good

2631
02:33:10,380 --> 02:33:14,580
for us. With that also comes
well all kinds of cool things

2632
02:33:14,580 --> 02:33:17,490
like the no agenda, Art
Generator. This is what Paul

2633
02:33:17,490 --> 02:33:21,450
couture has put together so that
our artists another fabulous

2634
02:33:21,450 --> 02:33:26,250
batch of people who deliver us
their talent while they're

2635
02:33:26,250 --> 02:33:29,190
listening live to the show. I
mean, that's really what is so

2636
02:33:29,220 --> 02:33:31,530
amazing is that they put this
together while they're listening

2637
02:33:31,530 --> 02:33:37,530
live. And we really have to
thank Francisco Scaramanga for a

2638
02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:43,230
fantastic this was top notch,
top of the line, no agenda art

2639
02:33:43,260 --> 02:33:48,030
to the tee, Episode 1631. We
titled that pulling a Johnson

2640
02:33:48,870 --> 02:33:55,920
which went well with the GI Joe
artwork. I mean, this of course

2641
02:33:55,920 --> 02:34:00,030
was one of the pastor
citizenships that we discussed

2642
02:34:00,030 --> 02:34:03,780
on the previous episode come in
as a Chinese national and as

2643
02:34:03,780 --> 02:34:05,880
long as you serve in our
military for a couple of years.

2644
02:34:05,880 --> 02:34:09,720
You can get it be an American
citizen. And he had it down man.

2645
02:34:09,960 --> 02:34:13,890
GI Joe had little rice bowl
there was chopsticks didn't make

2646
02:34:13,890 --> 02:34:17,700
it too racist. You know, had
them kind of semi Asian face I

2647
02:34:17,700 --> 02:34:18,900
would say yeah,

2648
02:34:18,900 --> 02:34:22,680
John C Dvorak: it wasn't just
super slant dyed, racist looking

2649
02:34:23,130 --> 02:34:26,280
cartoon which is usually done
but you didn't need to

2650
02:34:26,310 --> 02:34:29,190
Adam Curry: know it was
brilliant. I mean really just a

2651
02:34:29,190 --> 02:34:30,180
brilliant no it

2652
02:34:30,180 --> 02:34:33,180
John C Dvorak: was it had a
touch it was fine touch you put

2653
02:34:33,180 --> 02:34:36,000
the 33 on the helmet the
American flag on the helmet

2654
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:40,260
which is way to do it the rice
bowl with the chopsticks is a

2655
02:34:40,260 --> 02:34:44,550
piece of in the Ci g h o with
the red star China in the

2656
02:34:44,550 --> 02:34:50,970
middle. Very good. Everything in
this piece. Said winner Yeah.

2657
02:34:52,830 --> 02:34:56,580
Adam Curry: We looked at in the
wind by Darren O'Neil who always

2658
02:34:56,580 --> 02:35:01,440
comes in with something simple
and AI generated But that wasn't

2659
02:35:01,440 --> 02:35:05,070
the winner. I thought Taylor
Swift won't even listen to my

2660
02:35:05,070 --> 02:35:08,370
podcast was cute little sigh up
on the prairie cute but the

2661
02:35:08,370 --> 02:35:14,370
execution was not wasn't there.
Pandora's pouch of problems was

2662
02:35:14,370 --> 02:35:17,970
cute but no the Gouda cheese
talk I that was kind of it

2663
02:35:17,970 --> 02:35:20,310
wasn't it? We had a goat Do we
have a goat? Yeah a goat

2664
02:35:20,310 --> 02:35:27,900
screaming What else do we have?
Oh, the kind of like the texting

2665
02:35:27,930 --> 02:35:31,320
Iran it was it just didn't weigh
up against GI Joe but the

2666
02:35:31,320 --> 02:35:35,040
texting Iran was like a text
message and it's from the US

2667
02:35:35,040 --> 02:35:39,030
military. Yeah. Nothing is off
the table. Don't make us turn

2668
02:35:39,030 --> 02:35:42,810
you into sand respond and then
the Iranian flag replies new

2669
02:35:42,810 --> 02:35:47,580
phone who dis was cute. It's
funny we didn't understand the

2670
02:35:47,580 --> 02:35:52,410
nice tats by pickle surprise.
Although cute. No, no agenda

2671
02:35:52,410 --> 02:35:52,860
heart.

2672
02:35:54,330 --> 02:35:55,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, who

2673
02:35:55,380 --> 02:35:57,240
Adam Curry: didn't know didn't
quite get that one.

2674
02:35:58,590 --> 02:36:01,560
John C Dvorak: That was it.
Pickled surprise also did the

2675
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:07,110
goat Yes. And like to go to
goats nice but isn't wasn't

2676
02:36:07,110 --> 02:36:07,530
gonna win

2677
02:36:07,620 --> 02:36:09,930
Adam Curry: and commerce your
blogger is he just keeps on

2678
02:36:09,930 --> 02:36:15,450
throwing out AI hoping it'll
win. Which law? He said not a

2679
02:36:15,450 --> 02:36:16,260
bad idea.

2680
02:36:16,290 --> 02:36:20,820
John C Dvorak: He does too many
of the just generalized designs.

2681
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:24,900
Yeah, that. Were never we never
picked that. I mean, I sometimes

2682
02:36:24,900 --> 02:36:27,240
for the newsletter, I'll pull
one of those down when I need

2683
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:31,230
something. But it's not going to
be Ashok cover.

2684
02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:37,200
Adam Curry: He wanted me. Let me
say that. Right that he wanted

2685
02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:44,070
me to promote no agenda gpt.com.
Okay, which so he has put

2686
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:48,360
together all these chat GPT
projects. So you can go and ask

2687
02:36:48,360 --> 02:36:53,040
something about no agenda.
today. Good. Well, yeah, that's

2688
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:57,330
the one that said that Ryan
Seacrest had been running. Which

2689
02:36:57,360 --> 02:37:00,870
the funny thing was, it had
gotten that from a transcript,

2690
02:37:00,870 --> 02:37:05,160
which indeed said Ryan Seacrest,
which was incorrect, which was

2691
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:09,270
ai m is like this is garbage in
garbage out. Yeah,

2692
02:37:09,570 --> 02:37:13,260
John C Dvorak: it is. It's, it's
not gonna get any better. No,

2693
02:37:13,260 --> 02:37:16,260
it's It's the model is model
class gonna start it's gonna

2694
02:37:16,260 --> 02:37:22,320
start corrupting. Basic
historical data. Yeah. By

2695
02:37:22,320 --> 02:37:26,640
iteration, yeah, corruption by
iteration. Again, no title

2696
02:37:26,700 --> 02:37:30,270
that's too long. Have a eruption
by iterations what's going to

2697
02:37:30,270 --> 02:37:33,390
happen we're just going to take
over the world with just corrupt

2698
02:37:33,390 --> 02:37:36,180
data and information you won't
even know what date it is.

2699
02:37:36,210 --> 02:37:39,540
Adam Curry: We need a snap your
phrase then corruption by

2700
02:37:39,540 --> 02:37:44,400
iteration. And we'll probably
have to talk to the consulting

2701
02:37:44,400 --> 02:37:45,900
arm about that. You're

2702
02:37:45,900 --> 02:37:47,370
John C Dvorak: gonna have to
think about I don't know if we

2703
02:37:47,370 --> 02:37:48,840
can come up with anything better
than that.

2704
02:37:50,370 --> 02:37:52,740
Adam Curry: We'd love to thank
thank you artists. Thank you for

2705
02:37:52,740 --> 02:37:56,370
thank you to all the artists who
participate we give you the

2706
02:37:56,370 --> 02:37:59,400
honest feedback because that's
what you never get when you do

2707
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:02,370
jobs. Certainly not spec jobs.
No one was just yet some won't

2708
02:38:02,370 --> 02:38:04,260
call you back. It's

2709
02:38:04,260 --> 02:38:08,340
John C Dvorak: just don't call
Yeah. My art fail. I don't know.

2710
02:38:08,370 --> 02:38:10,170
You won't call me back which
people

2711
02:38:10,170 --> 02:38:14,100
Adam Curry: on the mastodon say
this shooting on the earth this

2712
02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:17,700
man? No, no, no, we're giving
you honest feedback. That's what

2713
02:38:17,700 --> 02:38:18,240
we're doing.

2714
02:38:18,690 --> 02:38:20,370
John C Dvorak: Are you are you
for amateurs that don't know

2715
02:38:20,370 --> 02:38:21,210
what they're talking about. Are

2716
02:38:21,210 --> 02:38:23,040
Adam Curry: you even on the
Macedon anymore? I don't see you

2717
02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:24,780
posting do you post that I post
all

2718
02:38:24,780 --> 02:38:28,620
John C Dvorak: the time? Really?
I'm posting like a maniac.

2719
02:38:28,860 --> 02:38:30,810
Adam Curry: I haven't seen
anything from you. You bought

2720
02:38:30,810 --> 02:38:37,020
me? I've not blocked you. I
follow you. Follow you follow

2721
02:38:37,020 --> 02:38:41,670
you. You're a creator and I
follow you. I want to thank the

2722
02:38:41,670 --> 02:38:45,390
people who deliver a treasure to
us. One of our three T's of

2723
02:38:45,390 --> 02:38:49,890
value for value. And right off
the bat saving the day and a

2724
02:38:49,890 --> 02:38:59,700
Muirhead from rye New York. No
note that I could find 2000 This

2725
02:38:59,700 --> 02:39:04,050
is fantastic. Anna Why did you
not send us a note we want to

2726
02:39:04,050 --> 02:39:04,890
thank you we want to

2727
02:39:05,580 --> 02:39:09,570
John C Dvorak: research I looked
up Anna any every which way. And

2728
02:39:09,570 --> 02:39:13,740
I even went back I dug through
the Pay Pal dogs to find her

2729
02:39:13,740 --> 02:39:17,700
donation to see if she had an
offbeat email address. And

2730
02:39:17,700 --> 02:39:20,910
indeed she did. Oh, so I you.
Yeah, that's how much work I

2731
02:39:20,910 --> 02:39:24,240
did. And so I looked it up.
Still nothing.

2732
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:32,130
Adam Curry: She's a baller big
baller soccer play ball baller

2733
02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:34,440
baller donation so

2734
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:37,320
John C Dvorak: she will send us
a note when she feels like it

2735
02:39:37,320 --> 02:39:38,370
that's the way I Yes,

2736
02:39:38,370 --> 02:39:40,620
Adam Curry: I sure hope so.
Anna, thank you very much double

2737
02:39:40,620 --> 02:39:45,570
up karma for your lack of
notice. Karma

2738
02:39:47,520 --> 02:39:49,050
John C Dvorak: and then
herbivore comes in from

2739
02:39:49,050 --> 02:39:57,600
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for
$350.93. less interesting,

2740
02:39:58,170 --> 02:40:02,280
right? Yeah. I think there's a
donation missing from these this

2741
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:07,170
list 350 93 Thank you for your
courage and pioneering efforts

2742
02:40:07,170 --> 02:40:11,190
and value for value. We got
inspired from what we saw in

2743
02:40:11,190 --> 02:40:15,810
December so we're doing a V four
v. Broadcast for our album

2744
02:40:15,810 --> 02:40:18,810
release show on February 16.
Beginning today the album will

2745
02:40:18,810 --> 02:40:23,100
be posted via wave lake in three
batches over the next few days

2746
02:40:23,100 --> 02:40:25,800
leading up to the show. If
you're stuck in the past on

2747
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:29,790
legacy apps, you'll find you'll
need to wait until it's the 16th

2748
02:40:30,120 --> 02:40:35,010
otherwise, find us on wave lake
or your favorite modern pause

2749
02:40:35,010 --> 02:40:40,620
cat podcast app. Details on how
to join us in person at bottle

2750
02:40:40,620 --> 02:40:46,380
rocket social hall in bottle
rocket social hall. Wow. In

2751
02:40:46,380 --> 02:40:50,070
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania or
within the value verse. Yes,

2752
02:40:50,400 --> 02:40:52,200
brother, Ron Bloom was that

2753
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:55,350
Adam Curry: I actually came up
with value verse. That's my

2754
02:40:55,350 --> 02:41:00,090
term. Thank you. God. Thank you.
First I'm contaminant can

2755
02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:03,990
John C Dvorak: be found on the
herbivore band.com. Also testing

2756
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:06,750
our rig this Saturday at
practice to work out the bugs

2757
02:41:06,750 --> 02:41:14,430
stream starting at 630. Hope to
catch yins y and z is one of

2758
02:41:14,430 --> 02:41:15,120
your term. That's what

2759
02:41:15,120 --> 02:41:18,000
Adam Curry: no, not one of mine.
That's what all the kids are

2760
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:18,990
saying Yen's

2761
02:41:19,140 --> 02:41:23,280
John C Dvorak: at this show or
online. Thanks, 350 93. So

2762
02:41:23,310 --> 02:41:25,650
Adam Curry: people have figured
it out. They're looking at value

2763
02:41:25,650 --> 02:41:28,050
for value. They're looking at
the modern podcast apps and

2764
02:41:28,050 --> 02:41:30,930
they're using it for their
music. Exactly. And they're

2765
02:41:30,930 --> 02:41:38,730
promoting it on our show. Very
good. Kliff. reamers ma reamers

2766
02:41:38,730 --> 02:41:43,710
mom Milwaukee Wisconsin 343 75
And he says I'd like a DD

2767
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:48,180
Unknown: you've been de Deus
needs

2768
02:41:48,210 --> 02:41:50,940
Adam Curry: a relationship karma
hope you're looking for one

2769
02:41:50,940 --> 02:41:56,070
you've got karma cliffs. Or if
you're in one, we hope it stays

2770
02:41:56,070 --> 02:41:56,760
good.

2771
02:41:57,990 --> 02:42:03,120
John C Dvorak: IP anonymously.
Oh, is it good gag, South Bend

2772
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:08,610
Indiana. 33333 once yak and goat
karma or good karma, but he sent

2773
02:42:08,610 --> 02:42:09,630
a note in

2774
02:42:09,960 --> 02:42:12,120
Adam Curry: this was an
interesting it was not just a

2775
02:42:12,120 --> 02:42:14,580
note it was it took up the whole
PDF.

2776
02:42:15,060 --> 02:42:17,460
John C Dvorak: He has a bunch of
photos. What he did is he

2777
02:42:17,460 --> 02:42:20,970
Adam Curry: opened his drawer
drawer. Once you read it, well,

2778
02:42:20,970 --> 02:42:23,940
I'm going to read parts of it
because it's four or five pages

2779
02:42:23,940 --> 02:42:27,510
long. He opens up his drawer is
a doc I have problems saying

2780
02:42:27,510 --> 02:42:32,190
drawer drawer drawer drawer. And
he's close enough shows a

2781
02:42:32,190 --> 02:42:37,050
picture and there's three
playing for playing cards, like

2782
02:42:37,050 --> 02:42:42,180
you know, cards, all with the
face up with the number up and

2783
02:42:42,180 --> 02:42:49,410
it's all threes. And he says oh
my gosh. All threes popped up.

2784
02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:54,660
He says four of a kind three,
three, extra heart. And then he

2785
02:42:54,660 --> 02:43:00,420
went in and asked chat GPT about
the significance of 333 and

2786
02:43:00,420 --> 02:43:04,260
Chachi Beatty said 333 is often
associated with spiritual

2787
02:43:04,260 --> 02:43:09,000
growth, protection and Divine
Presence. Interesting

2788
02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:12,900
mathematics. Three, three 3.33
Is the decimal representation of

2789
02:43:12,900 --> 02:43:19,320
the fraction of 1/3 it's also I
think, an angel number all kinds

2790
02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:23,520
of so he said I had to donate
that makes total sense. And I

2791
02:43:23,520 --> 02:43:29,130
think he added the fees for us
so the three three 3.33 plus the

2792
02:43:29,130 --> 02:43:32,700
fees no, I'm sorry no he didn't
he just came out three three to

2793
02:43:32,700 --> 02:43:37,680
three three Yeah, that's a good
note. And if that happens to you

2794
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:43,770
people see the odometer they get
they get a bill they see a check

2795
02:43:43,770 --> 02:43:47,280
number they see a hotel room
just when you see those threes

2796
02:43:47,280 --> 02:43:49,800
you know it's time to support
the no agenda show and he wants

2797
02:43:49,800 --> 02:43:53,790
some yeah karma we got that for
you. No problem. You've

2798
02:43:53,790 --> 02:43:55,950
Unknown: got ah

2799
02:43:57,360 --> 02:44:01,770
John C Dvorak: karma meanwhile,
sarin Denzel comes in from Port

2800
02:44:01,770 --> 02:44:06,060
Townsend Washington for 333 but
there's no note or anything that

2801
02:44:06,060 --> 02:44:08,310
I can find and so he gets a
double up karma.

2802
02:44:10,590 --> 02:44:14,160
Unknown: You've got karma

2803
02:44:16,620 --> 02:44:18,900
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
have one in blue which is always

2804
02:44:18,900 --> 02:44:24,090
good news rich, whiskey Bravo
for Echo Hotel golf in Davie,

2805
02:44:24,090 --> 02:44:27,870
Florida. 70 threes Quito five
Alpha Charlie Charlie on the VAR

2806
02:44:27,870 --> 02:44:32,010
AC. Our first Associate
Executive Producer 256. He says

2807
02:44:32,010 --> 02:44:35,400
I'm thrilled to finally become a
knight after being a douche bag

2808
02:44:35,430 --> 02:44:38,760
for too long. It's the highlight
of my week when I get to listen

2809
02:44:38,760 --> 02:44:41,850
to an entire show who knew
retirement would be so busy.

2810
02:44:42,210 --> 02:44:45,360
Noting that this show is this
show number is a combination of

2811
02:44:45,360 --> 02:44:50,520
16 two to the fourth 32 to the
fifth, this donation 2562 to the

2812
02:44:50,520 --> 02:44:55,200
eights My birthday is for two to
the second to the first and one

2813
02:44:55,200 --> 02:44:58,500
two to the oath, so please
Knight me as sir powers of two

2814
02:44:58,500 --> 02:45:01,800
protecting Davie, Florida at the
roundtable I'd like frozen

2815
02:45:01,800 --> 02:45:05,490
Tito's vodka and Nathan's hot
dogs with fresh bonds. Is there

2816
02:45:05,490 --> 02:45:09,660
any other kind of been? No
jingles only douchebag karma

2817
02:45:09,660 --> 02:45:10,200
we're gonna do.

2818
02:45:12,540 --> 02:45:14,430
Unknown: D Do you get karma?

2819
02:45:15,390 --> 02:45:17,040
You've got karma

2820
02:45:20,430 --> 02:45:23,040
John C Dvorak: so there's a note
as one that got lost in the

2821
02:45:23,040 --> 02:45:26,730
shuffle and I'm pretty sure it
came in on time and I'm going to

2822
02:45:26,760 --> 02:45:31,680
just read it from the email.
Okay. Yeah, this is from we did

2823
02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:34,950
we did or did well hold on a
second. Sorry. I'm holding,

2824
02:45:35,220 --> 02:45:36,690
stopping the show. Oh, do

2825
02:45:36,690 --> 02:45:38,730
Adam Curry: we have to really
stop the show? Nevermind.

2826
02:45:39,150 --> 02:45:41,310
John C Dvorak: It's something
else. I keep looking. Let me go.

2827
02:45:41,580 --> 02:45:46,080
Which you just read ritualist go
to Ethan ma us moms in

2828
02:45:46,080 --> 02:45:51,180
Birmingham, Alabama. To to to
rove ducks. Road ducks on my

2829
02:45:51,180 --> 02:45:57,150
33rd birthday in gratitude for
this fantastic podcast. This us?

2830
02:45:57,360 --> 02:46:00,180
Yes. In the morning to both of
you, gentlemen. And please do

2831
02:46:00,180 --> 02:46:00,810
you do Shmi

2832
02:46:02,700 --> 02:46:04,530
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2833
02:46:04,770 --> 02:46:09,480
John C Dvorak: thanks for
helping make sense. It's just

2834
02:46:09,480 --> 02:46:12,720
amazing me how many people are
in the 33rd birthday. I didn't

2835
02:46:12,720 --> 02:46:15,150
listen to the show. And

2836
02:46:15,150 --> 02:46:16,980
Adam Curry: when they say
grouping around when they

2837
02:46:16,980 --> 02:46:19,950
started listening, they were 16

2838
02:46:20,970 --> 02:46:22,830
John C Dvorak: Thanks for
helping me make sense of all the

2839
02:46:22,830 --> 02:46:25,020
madness biscuit for my birthday.

2840
02:46:25,950 --> 02:46:28,320
Adam Curry: Let me grab one I
have them fresh from the oven.

2841
02:46:28,320 --> 02:46:29,790
Here it is. They

2842
02:46:29,790 --> 02:46:32,100
Unknown: always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.

2843
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:39,660
Adam Curry: So that's it? Is the
doc ze doc Doc Brown the third

2844
02:46:40,680 --> 02:46:45,540
Makawao Hawaii, rove ducks 222
deconstruction, you guys provide

2845
02:46:45,540 --> 02:46:51,030
his fantastic thought wonder if
the thought wonder if these

2846
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:54,300
millions brought in are being
digitized they will be a

2847
02:46:54,420 --> 02:46:59,250
component to new digital
economy. What? What is he

2848
02:46:59,250 --> 02:47:02,670
saying? Oh, the millions being
brought in. I guess he's talking

2849
02:47:02,670 --> 02:47:06,870
about the newcomers. I guess if
they're being digitized Yes.

2850
02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:13,590
They Yes. They will be. They
will be tokenized yeah, that's

2851
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:16,410
all that's all he's got. Oh, I'm
sorry. Yes.

2852
02:47:18,720 --> 02:47:23,190
John C Dvorak: So let's go to
gigawatt Coffee Roasters. And

2853
02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:29,580
Adam Curry: I had I had a whole
I ran out of my black rifle. And

2854
02:47:29,580 --> 02:47:33,420
it was in the mail because I'm
on a subscription. And I had one

2855
02:47:33,420 --> 02:47:39,450
of the gigawatts very tasty.
rivaled the black rifle I should

2856
02:47:39,450 --> 02:47:39,750
say.

2857
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:44,040
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
suggest people check out the P

2858
02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:47,580
berry that they have, which is a
P berries and interesting.

2859
02:47:48,450 --> 02:47:53,250
Coffee Bean. Let me read the
thing and I'll talk about it in

2860
02:47:53,250 --> 02:47:56,700
a second. That Giga white coffee
and Bensenville Illinois to

2861
02:47:56,730 --> 02:48:00,750
1133. All producers should
considering going to an NA

2862
02:48:00,750 --> 02:48:04,110
Meetup is good to get out of
your comfort zone and break

2863
02:48:04,260 --> 02:48:07,770
bread with strangers. You'll
learn new things exchange ideas,

2864
02:48:07,980 --> 02:48:11,280
and who knows you might even
just make a new friend a shout

2865
02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:16,440
out to everybody who came to the
Naperville, Illinois meetup last

2866
02:48:16,440 --> 02:48:20,430
Tuesday. I'm looking forward to
the next one. Thank you, John

2867
02:48:20,430 --> 02:48:23,550
and Anna, for creating this
community of people with such

2868
02:48:23,610 --> 02:48:28,860
wide ranging views and
backgrounds. Indeed, I'll take

2869
02:48:28,860 --> 02:48:32,700
some OG Pelosi jobs Carmen in
hopes of finding my next awesome

2870
02:48:32,700 --> 02:48:36,330
employees looking for Wow
looking for us to code ITM 20

2871
02:48:36,330 --> 02:48:40,590
for 20% off your first gigawatt
coffee. roasters.com Stay

2872
02:48:40,590 --> 02:48:44,280
caffeinated Eli the coffee guy.
Okay, so P Berry.

2873
02:48:45,300 --> 02:48:47,640
Adam Curry: Wow, I'm glad you
can get to the P Berry. Yes.

2874
02:48:48,420 --> 02:48:52,170
John C Dvorak: P Berry is a
which always traditionally it's

2875
02:48:52,170 --> 02:48:55,710
like a midget Berry. And they
call him Pete versus like a you

2876
02:48:55,710 --> 02:48:59,130
know, do you see the coffee
bean? The bean isn't Berry has

2877
02:48:59,130 --> 02:49:02,790
been the bean is like half the
size of a normal coffee bean.

2878
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:07,380
It's a little bitty thing. They
used to be discarded because

2879
02:49:07,380 --> 02:49:09,750
they don't you know you want in
the olden days when you went and

2880
02:49:09,750 --> 02:49:12,960
had your coffee and you want a
big fat, healthy looking beans.

2881
02:49:12,960 --> 02:49:15,900
You didn't want these little
miniscule beans. But it turns

2882
02:49:15,900 --> 02:49:19,140
out when you make coffee from
the pea berry sometimes is

2883
02:49:19,170 --> 02:49:23,190
terrific tasting it tastes
better. And this has only been

2884
02:49:23,190 --> 02:49:27,150
recently discovered by coffee
people because they needed to

2885
02:49:27,420 --> 02:49:32,100
know make more money and have
the gigawatt guys have some pee

2886
02:49:32,100 --> 02:49:36,000
berries. People should maybe
check it out more you know, in

2887
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:38,250
the morning. Jobs,

2888
02:49:38,370 --> 02:49:42,630
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

2889
02:49:45,030 --> 02:49:49,230
Adam Curry: All right. Sir Buber
checks in with 207 20 from

2890
02:49:49,230 --> 02:49:54,240
Nevada Iowa. ITM I'm donating in
honor of the fourth anniversary

2891
02:49:54,240 --> 02:49:59,730
of my wife's passing. Oh, that
was February 7. Oh man, sir boob

2892
02:49:59,730 --> 02:50:03,360
rumps. already hear that, but we
will say a prayer for her and

2893
02:50:03,360 --> 02:50:06,090
think of her and for you. Can I
please get an F cancer and a

2894
02:50:06,090 --> 02:50:09,270
goat karma for everybody's
health? Yes, you can. Thank you,

2895
02:50:09,270 --> 02:50:09,930
sir Boober

2896
02:50:19,260 --> 02:50:22,470
John C Dvorak: done the mission
message from my wife? Yes, it

2897
02:50:22,470 --> 02:50:28,620
was a Nevada. A native of
Nevada, Iowa. No, Nevada,

2898
02:50:28,890 --> 02:50:31,620
Nevada. Ah, yeah. I don't know
how they pronounce it there, but

2899
02:50:31,620 --> 02:50:37,200
it's pronounced Nevada. Keep
pronouncing it Nevada, and it

2900
02:50:37,200 --> 02:50:39,660
makes her cringy. Yeah.

2901
02:50:40,560 --> 02:50:44,490
Adam Curry: I say Nevada. Yeah,
you just said it. No, but it's

2902
02:50:44,490 --> 02:50:48,300
supposed to be Nevada. And
Nevada makes her cringe. Yeah,

2903
02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:53,160
when you say Nevada I'm so
sorry. Crinch Nevada, now told

2904
02:50:53,160 --> 02:50:54,930
John C Dvorak: me to tell you I
got nothing to do with I don't

2905
02:50:54,930 --> 02:50:55,620
care if you got

2906
02:50:55,620 --> 02:50:58,470
Adam Curry: my email. She got
she got my digit. She can she

2907
02:50:58,470 --> 02:51:01,830
can hit me up on WhatsApp. She
can slide into my DMs

2908
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:04,830
John C Dvorak: chief fears that
you'll chew her out.

2909
02:51:06,660 --> 02:51:08,970
Adam Curry: For anyone who knows
me this is very funny.

2910
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:13,470
John C Dvorak: And Jeremy Knight
is in San Francisco. He came in

2911
02:51:13,470 --> 02:51:20,070
at $23.24 failed to hit up the
ATM and only put fit 30 into the

2912
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:24,300
envelope. But he's talking about
the meetup us at the meetup. So

2913
02:51:24,300 --> 02:51:27,630
here's some more treasure to
commemorate this date. Second,

2914
02:51:27,660 --> 02:51:34,920
get John out of the house meet
up. Club Mallard was epic. The

2915
02:51:34,920 --> 02:51:39,720
bartender loves us. Well, let's
see. Let me think why is he

2916
02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:42,840
three o'clock and a Saturday
afternoon when the place is

2917
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:46,980
normally three o'clock on a
Saturday afternoon dead empty.

2918
02:51:47,370 --> 02:51:50,430
And now you have 40 customers
who are giving tips and making

2919
02:51:50,430 --> 02:51:54,930
the liven up to place. I wonder
why. Anyway, so he says I had a

2920
02:51:54,930 --> 02:52:00,660
wonderful time chatting with
Jays fiance that's Brennan

2921
02:52:00,690 --> 02:52:03,180
Brenton Yeah. Yeah. Very

2922
02:52:03,180 --> 02:52:08,820
Adam Curry: good. Sir crystal
ball, Dallas, Texas. 20202. Love

2923
02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:11,550
that just an overdue value for
value donation. Thanks for what

2924
02:52:11,550 --> 02:52:14,880
you're doing, sir crystal ball.
Thank you very much for crystal

2925
02:52:14,880 --> 02:52:15,990
ball. We appreciate that.

2926
02:52:16,140 --> 02:52:18,180
John C Dvorak: And that leads us
right to Linda Lou Pak and in

2927
02:52:18,180 --> 02:52:24,060
Lakewood, Colorado. Coincidence?
I think not $200 jobs calmer for

2928
02:52:24,060 --> 02:52:27,660
everybody. And for a competitive
edge. Go to Image makers inc.com

2929
02:52:27,660 --> 02:52:31,410
For all your executive resume
and job search needs. That's

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02:52:31,440 --> 02:52:35,190
image makers Inc with a k.com or
just find Linda Lou Patrick and

2931
02:52:35,190 --> 02:52:38,160
under the show's producer lists.
Someone

2932
02:52:38,400 --> 02:52:40,320
Adam Curry: hit me up on the
mastodon said, How come you

2933
02:52:40,320 --> 02:52:43,590
haven't named her yet? I think
she refuses.

2934
02:52:44,130 --> 02:52:45,960
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
if she wants to be named. She

2935
02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:49,260
has to ask for it. I think we
have asked us don't do it

2936
02:52:49,260 --> 02:52:50,160
automatically.

2937
02:52:50,190 --> 02:52:52,710
Adam Curry: No, I think I think
we have said Hey, isn't a time

2938
02:52:52,740 --> 02:52:56,910
she could be way beyond a dame
by probably Baron. Baron

2939
02:52:56,910 --> 02:53:00,780
hairnet. Yeah. So Linda Lou
Potkin. We'd love to bring you

2940
02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:01,590
up on the podium

2941
02:53:01,620 --> 02:53:03,870
John C Dvorak: or Baron Ness.
It'd be bareness fairness

2942
02:53:03,870 --> 02:53:06,630
Adam Curry: would be perfect.
Here it is jobs, jobs,

2943
02:53:06,750 --> 02:53:08,310
Unknown: jobs and jobs.

2944
02:53:13,590 --> 02:53:15,870
Adam Curry: Well, thank you,
executive and Associate

2945
02:53:15,870 --> 02:53:18,750
Executive producers for
supporting the no agenda Show

2946
02:53:18,750 --> 02:53:24,330
episode 1632. Oops, I didn't
mean to hit that one. This is

2947
02:53:24,330 --> 02:53:27,840
what I meant to hit. Here we go
Johnson. Get ready. Just saying.

2948
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:34,410
Don't they? No agenda. Yeah,
baby, this is going in your

2949
02:53:34,410 --> 02:53:45,150
brain to send us know. And there
you go. You can support us at no

2950
02:53:45,150 --> 02:53:48,630
agenda donations.com. We
certainly appreciate everyone

2951
02:53:48,630 --> 02:53:52,380
who comes in under $50. We don't
mention those. We do do time and

2952
02:53:52,380 --> 02:53:57,540
place of everyone between 250.
And of course if there's karma

2953
02:53:57,540 --> 02:53:59,790
in there, we'll handle that as
well. We really appreciate it.

2954
02:53:59,970 --> 02:54:02,550
The executive and Associate
Executive producers, these are

2955
02:54:02,550 --> 02:54:06,660
credits that are valid forever.
You can use them on your

2956
02:54:06,660 --> 02:54:10,050
LinkedIn, you can use them on
your resume, go to imdb.com If

2957
02:54:10,050 --> 02:54:12,990
you don't have one of those most
people don't open it up. They're

2958
02:54:12,990 --> 02:54:17,010
completely valid and if anyone
questions these credits, let us

2959
02:54:17,010 --> 02:54:19,380
know we'll vouch for you John,
take us through the 50s

2960
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:23,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, really
Herenton or buddy at the top of

2961
02:54:23,100 --> 02:54:28,500
the list is sparks Nevada. I
think she is a dame $166.33

2962
02:54:28,500 --> 02:54:35,640
Rubin shoot rebel, treble. In
Tampa, Florida. 133 He says the

2963
02:54:35,640 --> 02:54:37,590
last show was the best show ever

2964
02:54:37,620 --> 02:54:40,590
Adam Curry: go 100% 100%.

2965
02:54:41,610 --> 02:54:45,540
John C Dvorak: Bruce Schwalm in
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 12345

2966
02:54:45,540 --> 02:54:51,420
Russell Rhodes 106 41 hits a
birthday for his son vikrum

2967
02:54:51,420 --> 02:54:58,470
vikrum vikrum vikrum Vikram,
fresh tech LLC in Philadelphia,

2968
02:54:58,470 --> 02:55:02,070
Pennsylvania. I'm Guess our
refresh tech. I'm guessing that

2969
02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:06,390
refresh tech I'm guessing that
is a networking company. Dave at

2970
02:55:06,420 --> 02:55:14,130
Elkhart, Indiana 100 He needs a
D douching. You've been D

2971
02:55:14,130 --> 02:55:20,430
deuced. Because it Remini also
given before jacquelene Lince in

2972
02:55:20,460 --> 02:55:26,100
Muskego, Wisconsin 100 Pat
Sullivan in Sturgeon County,

2973
02:55:26,130 --> 02:55:32,640
Alberta, Canada 100 Eric Adler
in Punta Gorda, Florida 808.

2974
02:55:33,060 --> 02:55:39,750
Meghan right CI in Boise, Idaho
808 and boom Kevin McLaughlin in

2975
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:44,010
Concord, North Carolina 808
Don't be a boob. Save one

2976
02:55:44,010 --> 02:55:51,360
instead. Donald, I'm sorry are
when Sheltie in St. Albans Great

2977
02:55:51,360 --> 02:55:58,560
Britain 75 Donald Thompson 7373
Dame Jen in Boise, Idaho 6611.

2978
02:55:59,760 --> 02:56:02,880
This the dangling balls and
double Dix donation that

2979
02:56:02,880 --> 02:56:05,820
Christie started on Sunday. Oh,
here they come. Here they come.

2980
02:56:05,820 --> 02:56:08,820
We'll see. We'll see what
catches on. It'll catch on.

2981
02:56:09,090 --> 02:56:14,940
Ladies. Like Michaels. Here say
Cora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.

2982
02:56:14,940 --> 02:56:21,900
606. Call out to Craig Sikora
and Kim Sachs as douchebags

2983
02:56:23,700 --> 02:56:28,830
Adam Curry: Craig and you got it
Craig and Kim Grayson

2984
02:56:28,830 --> 02:56:32,730
John C Dvorak: insurance in
Aurora, Colorado 606 Spencer

2985
02:56:33,690 --> 02:56:38,790
pulic in Tulsa, Oklahoma 606
switch a release credit to a

2986
02:56:38,790 --> 02:56:43,650
smokin hot wife Guantanamo Bay.
And add her to the birthday list

2987
02:56:43,650 --> 02:56:46,470
even though I don't see that
she's on the yellowed out here.

2988
02:56:46,500 --> 02:56:49,200
Let me check. She may be missing
from the birthday list, which

2989
02:56:49,200 --> 02:56:52,500
would be the first flaw that we
have on the spreadsheet. I

2990
02:56:52,500 --> 02:56:57,180
Adam Curry: think I'm gonna put
her on. Coins. No, no, no, no,

2991
02:56:57,180 --> 02:56:59,100
no, go Anton. Hi. I'll put her

2992
02:56:59,100 --> 02:57:02,280
John C Dvorak: there you go.
Sir. Lady Boy in Mount Laurel

2993
02:57:02,280 --> 02:57:08,610
tones ship New Jersey at 606
that Dame stitchy woman

2994
02:57:08,610 --> 02:57:15,480
Rogersville Alabama 60 And we
got a birthday coming up for

2995
02:57:15,480 --> 02:57:23,820
someone. Charles my back my Bach
mie Bach in vintage vintage

2996
02:57:23,940 --> 02:57:27,690
Wantage. Wantage New Jersey
can't get this one right. No

2997
02:57:27,720 --> 02:57:32,100
5833 Birthday donation that's on
the list needs a D douching.

2998
02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:38,190
You've been D deuced. Let's
start kowski in Kingman,

2999
02:57:38,190 --> 02:57:44,940
Arizona. 58. Eric Halston,
Richmond, Texas 5727. Christine

3000
02:57:44,940 --> 02:57:49,380
Heinz and Manchester New
Hampshire. 5555. Michael gates

3001
02:57:49,380 --> 02:57:57,450
5280. Scott Evers and Venus
Texas. 52 John Foley and Chicago

3002
02:57:57,450 --> 02:58:00,600
Heights Illinois 52 striped
Destiny

3003
02:58:02,370 --> 02:58:04,590
Adam Curry: stripe you tested
stripe and it works.

3004
02:58:05,580 --> 02:58:08,100
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's show
stripe. Okay. Yeah, it is stripe

3005
02:58:08,130 --> 02:58:16,110
donation. Sir anonymous cop. in
Redwood City, California. 5150 m

3006
02:58:16,110 --> 02:58:19,590
WG in Louisville, Kentucky. 51.
No, that's

3007
02:58:19,590 --> 02:58:22,590
Adam Curry: Maxine Waters gravel
who's back needs to de douchey

3008
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:28,890
you've been de deuced Good to
have you back. Maxine Waters

3009
02:58:28,890 --> 02:58:30,210
gravel. The

3010
02:58:30,210 --> 02:58:32,820
John C Dvorak: last of these are
all $50 donors. I'm going to

3011
02:58:32,820 --> 02:58:37,740
name and location starting with
Alex's avala in Kyle, Texas and

3012
02:58:37,740 --> 02:58:43,890
Michael are LaBarre in
Williamston, Michigan Alexandro

3013
02:58:44,310 --> 02:58:48,930
Winco in Neosho, Wisconsin is a
de douching

3014
02:58:50,790 --> 02:58:52,620
Unknown: you've been de deuced

3015
02:58:54,480 --> 02:58:58,080
John C Dvorak: Kristen Dougherty
in New York City is wishing a

3016
02:58:58,080 --> 02:59:01,950
Happy Birthday to her smokin hot
boyfriend Bubs

3017
02:59:02,430 --> 02:59:03,360
Adam Curry: and wants a biscuit.
They

3018
02:59:03,360 --> 02:59:05,790
Unknown: always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.

3019
02:59:06,390 --> 02:59:11,760
John C Dvorak: Matthew Smith and
Colchester, Suffolk, UK 50 Ryan

3020
02:59:11,790 --> 02:59:15,450
Tiernan in North Providence,
Rhode Island 50 Jonathan Farris

3021
02:59:15,450 --> 02:59:20,460
and liberal liberal Kansas,
Justin Cruz and to hatchapee,

3022
02:59:20,460 --> 02:59:24,960
California Robertson home in
Flint, Michigan, Steven ray in

3023
02:59:24,960 --> 02:59:30,870
Spokane, Edward Mazurek in
Memphis, William Kidwell in

3024
02:59:30,870 --> 02:59:35,700
Dover, Delaware, George rachet,
Sir George and loved vernia,

3025
02:59:35,700 --> 02:59:42,660
Texas, Capek Chiropractic in
Capek, Michigan, Cary Jackson

3026
02:59:42,660 --> 02:59:47,970
and Watertown, Tennessee Jason
deluzy Oh and Miami Beach,

3027
02:59:48,420 --> 02:59:53,100
William dole gauge or dough gay
gig dough gauge, I'm sure in

3028
02:59:53,100 --> 02:59:57,330
Bristol Ville, Ohio, Baroness
night, Baroness Dame night in

3029
02:59:57,330 --> 03:00:00,630
Edmonds, Washington, Arden
Howell and Nate bearville

3030
03:00:00,660 --> 03:00:03,060
Illinois needs a deed douchey

3031
03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:07,350
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
and

3032
03:00:07,350 --> 03:00:12,810
John C Dvorak: Sir Mix in Fort
St. John BC. That's our group of

3033
03:00:12,900 --> 03:00:19,050
contributors to show good group.
Very good Chris show 1632 I want

3034
03:00:19,050 --> 03:00:21,330
to thank each and every one of
them for helping out.

3035
03:00:22,470 --> 03:00:24,960
Adam Curry: And yes, and thank
you to everyone who came in

3036
03:00:24,960 --> 03:00:29,430
under $50 A lot of people do
4999 In fact, we have a donor

3037
03:00:29,430 --> 03:00:32,400
anonymous as keep me anonymous,
your anonymous anonymous no

3038
03:00:32,400 --> 03:00:36,000
problem under 50 We don't read
them and special thanks to all

3039
03:00:36,000 --> 03:00:38,550
those who came in with our
sustaining donations. They are

3040
03:00:38,550 --> 03:00:42,240
very important. You can you can
set up your own it's a recurring

3041
03:00:42,450 --> 03:00:44,700
thing you can set can you set up
the recurring with stripe as

3042
03:00:44,700 --> 03:00:46,500
well or only on PayPal? Do you
know?

3043
03:00:47,700 --> 03:00:50,130
John C Dvorak: There's a
question I think you can do some

3044
03:00:50,130 --> 03:00:53,070
recurrent but you cannot the
stripe is somewhat limited

3045
03:00:53,070 --> 03:00:57,360
compared to the variety you get
on PayPal. Either way, that it

3046
03:00:57,360 --> 03:00:58,170
does the trick.

3047
03:00:58,320 --> 03:01:00,840
Adam Curry: We love time, talent
and treasure. Thank you all so

3048
03:01:00,840 --> 03:01:03,390
much. Thank you to a clip
custodian and our collectors.

3049
03:01:03,690 --> 03:01:08,250
Steve Jones and Dave Ackerman
love what you do you really help

3050
03:01:08,250 --> 03:01:11,310
out the show. It's like having
your own personal production

3051
03:01:11,310 --> 03:01:14,100
team thank you all so much. It
is very much appreciated and of

3052
03:01:14,100 --> 03:01:17,040
course to our executive and
Associate Executive Producers

3053
03:01:17,040 --> 03:01:22,350
one more time and remember us at
the vorak.org/na or the fancy

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courage and thank you for
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Adam Curry: I like Lady Vox his
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some jingles for us. I like that
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does she

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Adam Curry: sounds like Alison
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3136
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and also yes I miss identify the
Rolando Gonzalez being from

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Dallas he is from big H
Absolutely. Here's what's coming

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Thank you sir Daniel for keeping
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joining the no agenda meetups
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agenda meetup.com If you can't
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spouse go hang out with Dyson
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say is like a pot is just like a
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to the part that everybody loves
so much or we try and figure out

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which end of show Eisah we will
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3164
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John C Dvorak: I'm not hopeful
today.

3165
03:08:24,870 --> 03:08:26,970
Adam Curry: Oh, well. Then you
go first since you're not

3166
03:08:26,970 --> 03:08:34,920
hopeful. Don't look don't look
at my butt. Okay, little little

3167
03:08:34,920 --> 03:08:39,690
soapy in the audio. Don't look
at my butt. Very funny. Wow.

3168
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Unknown: Wow.

3169
03:08:42,330 --> 03:08:43,860
Adam Curry: You're big on the
wires these

3170
03:08:43,890 --> 03:08:45,330
Unknown: Wow. Wow.

3171
03:08:46,650 --> 03:08:49,980
Adam Curry: It's I like the I
like the sound of it. Let me see

3172
03:08:49,980 --> 03:08:50,880
what I've got here.

3173
03:08:51,180 --> 03:08:53,130
Unknown: I've got she says keep
it real.

3174
03:08:55,110 --> 03:08:57,120
Adam Curry: Just too. That's not
good. How about this one?

3175
03:08:57,240 --> 03:08:58,800
Unknown: Thank you so much.
That's

3176
03:09:01,650 --> 03:09:03,960
Adam Curry: kind of like that
one. And thank you guys. Y'all

3177
03:09:03,960 --> 03:09:06,630
have a great one. I like that
one.

3178
03:09:06,930 --> 03:09:08,520
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I do too.
Let's go with that. Thank

3179
03:09:08,520 --> 03:09:10,470
Adam Curry: you guys. Have a
great one. Okay, yeah, we'll go

3180
03:09:10,470 --> 03:09:11,280
with that one. No problem.

3181
03:09:12,720 --> 03:09:16,620
Unknown: Good news. Good news.
Good. Good news. Good news.

3182
03:09:16,650 --> 03:09:18,690
Adam Curry: That's right. Good
news. We always end the show

3183
03:09:18,690 --> 03:09:21,660
with some good news. So that
you're all up and happy as you

3184
03:09:21,660 --> 03:09:24,660
go into the next few days
without us we know it's tough.

3185
03:09:25,170 --> 03:09:29,220
John scours the Internet to wait
for Mimi's email when she sends

3186
03:09:29,220 --> 03:09:31,710
the actual good news clip. What
do we have? Actually, a

3187
03:09:31,710 --> 03:09:34,050
John C Dvorak: lot of people
send them in, of course. Well,

3188
03:09:34,050 --> 03:09:37,350
this one here I have to talk
about a little bit after it's

3189
03:09:37,350 --> 03:09:41,520
over. Okay. This is a little
girl saves her sister.

3190
03:09:41,640 --> 03:09:44,280
Unknown: Constant Kwik Trip
turning into a nightmare.

3191
03:09:44,340 --> 03:09:47,070
Someone just stole my car on
27th street with my two kids in

3192
03:09:47,070 --> 03:09:48,180
the car. I mean, eight year old

3193
03:09:48,180 --> 03:09:52,200
girls quick thinking I was
scared. I was like what's

3194
03:09:52,200 --> 03:09:55,140
happening saving her and her
sister after a shocking

3195
03:09:55,140 --> 03:09:56,190
carjacking. I

3196
03:09:56,190 --> 03:09:59,970
was really just about an arm's
length away from my car out

3197
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:00,600
Jorgensen

3198
03:10:00,600 --> 03:10:03,480
says he went to grab a cloth to
dry off his vehicle after a car

3199
03:10:03,480 --> 03:10:05,970
wash. When someone asked him for
directions.

3200
03:10:06,210 --> 03:10:10,470
Then suddenly I heard the
screeching of our tires. The car

3201
03:10:10,470 --> 03:10:10,680
was

3202
03:10:10,680 --> 03:10:13,440
gone with his daughter's two
year old autumn and eight year

3203
03:10:13,440 --> 03:10:17,790
old Charlie in the backseat. He
told me to get out of car. I was

3204
03:10:17,790 --> 03:10:22,770
like, oh, what should I do?
Should I run be a scaredy cat or

3205
03:10:22,770 --> 03:10:26,970
should I save my sister to
Charlie telling our affiliate

3206
03:10:26,970 --> 03:10:30,870
WTF J she knew her dad had the
keys, not the carjackers and she

3207
03:10:30,870 --> 03:10:34,110
decided to stay put the driver
ditch the car and the kids at

3208
03:10:34,110 --> 03:10:37,440
the Batteries Plus store about a
mile down the road. And Charlie

3209
03:10:37,440 --> 03:10:44,610
acted fast her little sister
panicking grabbing her dad's

3210
03:10:44,610 --> 03:10:47,940
phone from the front of the car
and calling her mom leaving this

3211
03:10:47,940 --> 03:10:54,540
message their dad back and Kwik
Trip frantically on the phone

3212
03:10:54,540 --> 03:10:55,380
with police

3213
03:10:55,830 --> 03:10:58,860
are over by batteries. And then
an officer is going to come over

3214
03:10:58,860 --> 03:11:01,440
meet to at the Kwik Trip. Okay.
All right,

3215
03:11:01,470 --> 03:11:02,430
but you guys have my

3216
03:11:02,580 --> 03:11:05,940
kids. The incident reflecting a
bigger trend and carjackings

3217
03:11:06,120 --> 03:11:10,860
rising 17% from 2022 to 2023.
And nearby Milwaukee and

3218
03:11:10,860 --> 03:11:15,720
nationally carjackings up 93%
From 2019 to 2023. According to

3219
03:11:15,720 --> 03:11:18,540
a new Council on criminal
justice report tracking rates

3220
03:11:18,540 --> 03:11:21,990
across 10 US cities back in Oak
Creek. The Police Department

3221
03:11:21,990 --> 03:11:25,200
said it took three suspects into
custody and is seeking felony

3222
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:28,410
charges this week. Now a family
reunited

3223
03:11:28,470 --> 03:11:31,200
I ran as fast as I could out of
the back of that cop car to hug

3224
03:11:31,200 --> 03:11:31,530
them

3225
03:11:31,560 --> 03:11:34,380
hoping others will learn how
quickly things can go wrong.

3226
03:11:34,470 --> 03:11:37,320
And I'm pretty well bothered
driving your car.

3227
03:11:38,100 --> 03:11:40,650
Yes, we'll drive the car at home
now as well. Yeah,

3228
03:11:41,220 --> 03:11:45,150
Adam Curry: that's right people
law enforcement doing a good

3229
03:11:45,150 --> 03:11:45,720
job.

3230
03:11:45,870 --> 03:11:50,280
John C Dvorak: I call bullshit.
Oh, you do? I think this whole

3231
03:11:50,280 --> 03:11:51,300
clip is a hoax.

3232
03:11:51,420 --> 03:11:54,450
Adam Curry: a hoax. Oh, no.

3233
03:11:54,810 --> 03:11:57,090
John C Dvorak: What makes me
think that what makes one we

3234
03:11:57,090 --> 03:11:59,520
have a recording of the little
two year old saying Where's

3235
03:11:59,520 --> 03:12:01,980
daddy? Where's daddy? Where'd
they get that recording? There's

3236
03:12:01,980 --> 03:12:06,300
the car rigged with microphones.
Second, we have a recording of

3237
03:12:06,300 --> 03:12:10,200
the eight year olds phone call
to mom saying daddy's been just

3238
03:12:10,200 --> 03:12:14,040
missing. Who's recording that
call? Does mom have a recorder

3239
03:12:14,040 --> 03:12:17,220
on the phone? Where did that?
Where did that little clip come

3240
03:12:17,220 --> 03:12:20,370
from? And then to say that the
eight year old knew that daddy

3241
03:12:20,370 --> 03:12:23,010
had the keys while the guys
driving off. That's the last

3242
03:12:23,010 --> 03:12:26,940
thing I'd be on a kid's mind.
The thing was to promote a

3243
03:12:27,210 --> 03:12:31,020
little message and by the way
this on here. The Halley's news

3244
03:12:31,020 --> 03:12:35,460
thing on NBC this an NBC clip I
think of notorious for phoning

3245
03:12:35,460 --> 03:12:39,660
up stuff. And so then then
meanwhile, there's the whole

3246
03:12:39,660 --> 03:12:44,370
thing. It's it was to promote
this this data on because right

3247
03:12:44,370 --> 03:12:47,040
in the middle of it. There's
like an advertorial about

3248
03:12:47,040 --> 03:12:51,240
carjackings and how they've been
they've gone up so much. I find

3249
03:12:51,240 --> 03:12:55,500
that this is I think this whole
clip has been staged. Let's

3250
03:12:55,500 --> 03:12:59,460
Adam Curry: review the rules of
the good news clip. It's

3251
03:12:59,460 --> 03:13:03,930
supposed to make you feel good.
And now you just made us feel

3252
03:13:03,930 --> 03:13:04,740
bad.

3253
03:13:05,220 --> 03:13:07,200
John C Dvorak: I didn't make
anybody feel bad. It's it's

3254
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:09,390
still a cute clip. No,

3255
03:13:09,420 --> 03:13:12,090
Adam Curry: it was I felt good
until you just said it was all

3256
03:13:12,090 --> 03:13:15,570
bogus. And I love the cute
little kid and you just made me

3257
03:13:15,570 --> 03:13:16,740
feel horrible.

3258
03:13:18,180 --> 03:13:20,850
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I'm
sorry. That'll never happen

3259
03:13:20,850 --> 03:13:21,780
again. You better

3260
03:13:21,780 --> 03:13:25,320
Adam Curry: believe it won't
happen again. No, deconstructing

3261
03:13:25,320 --> 03:13:28,110
the news? The good news? No,
deconstructing

3262
03:13:28,110 --> 03:13:31,890
John C Dvorak: good news. Even
though it's a hoax by NBC. No

3263
03:13:31,890 --> 03:13:35,520
Adam Curry: sex in the champagne
room. No deconstructing the good

3264
03:13:35,520 --> 03:13:39,270
news clip. I just want to go out
happy and now I'm, I'm

3265
03:13:39,270 --> 03:13:46,290
depressed. You can see it in my
blood. Geez. Well, luckily, we

3266
03:13:46,290 --> 03:13:51,330
will booster. Luckily, we'll be
back on Sunday, where we'll end

3267
03:13:51,330 --> 03:13:55,740
with a very good news clip. That
should make you happy and feel

3268
03:13:55,740 --> 03:14:00,390
good. Feel good. Coming up next
on no agenda stream.com Or a

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03:14:05,640 --> 03:14:12,150
euphoria. Episode 689. See who
is closest to the pin. Before we

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get to that though, we will have
our end of show mixes from

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Stefan Steve at well and Jesse
coy Nelson, some classics and

3273
03:14:19,650 --> 03:14:22,830
some new ones in here and coming
to you from the heart of the

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03:14:22,830 --> 03:14:26,490
Texas Hill Country here and FEMA
Region number six in the

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03:14:26,490 --> 03:14:28,560
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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03:14:28,710 --> 03:14:30,990
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain is

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03:14:30,990 --> 03:14:33,180
nice and sunny. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

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03:14:33,270 --> 03:14:36,570
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday.
Please join us launch you for

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03:14:36,570 --> 03:14:39,330
another three hours of
deconstruction, but not the good

3280
03:14:39,330 --> 03:14:43,080
news. Remember us at the
borak.org/na no agenda

3281
03:14:43,080 --> 03:14:47,520
donations.com Until then, adios
mofos who he who he

3282
03:14:48,660 --> 03:14:52,860
Unknown: uses some money that
you're about to do you know what

3283
03:14:52,860 --> 03:14:54,780
that might be what it might look
like.

3284
03:14:56,100 --> 03:15:03,600
Yes, I have such To trade ideas
all the good I'm gonna do it

3285
03:15:03,600 --> 03:15:09,870
this month. Seeing Rachel you
and I are go shopping for a new

3286
03:15:09,870 --> 03:15:14,940
wardrobe new shoes motorcycles
and crawling new fishing rod for

3287
03:15:14,940 --> 03:15:23,940
Robin Rachel Rachel France you
want France In France no

3288
03:15:30,210 --> 03:15:33,630
fishing in France for women's
rights

3289
03:15:41,070 --> 03:15:43,050
as if you need persuasion in
that regard

3290
03:15:52,050 --> 03:16:00,540
Biden becomes a little kids
great to be home folks over a

3291
03:16:00,540 --> 03:16:02,220
period of time we stopped
investing

3292
03:16:15,630 --> 03:16:33,630
Joe has already invested $6.1
million 1.1 2.5 $100,000 Not a

3293
03:16:33,630 --> 03:16:41,520
joke, you know, we have
interests such as yours but you

3294
03:16:41,520 --> 03:16:57,150
know what matters no matter how
many drugs economics does not

3295
03:16:59,340 --> 03:17:01,140
affect the brain to function

3296
03:17:10,320 --> 03:17:15,690
I was told that that's an awful
thing to do. For my entire

3297
03:17:15,690 --> 03:17:20,220
career, I had the best in the
world you pay for manager

3298
03:17:21,240 --> 03:17:23,640
generals gathered in masse

3299
03:17:25,980 --> 03:17:28,590
it's a memo that describes how
we're going to take out seven

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03:17:28,590 --> 03:17:30,390
countries in five years.

3301
03:17:31,740 --> 03:17:33,630
Which is that black mask

3302
03:17:34,380 --> 03:17:38,910
is when I first came to office.
One of the first meetings I had

3303
03:17:38,940 --> 03:17:41,220
was at the Pentagon with
generals

3304
03:17:42,510 --> 03:17:44,580
minds that blood destruction

3305
03:17:46,650 --> 03:17:50,310
Bolton has always said let's go
to war but he's not the one

3306
03:17:50,310 --> 03:17:53,940
who's gonna go on the flush
right? He's a coward saucer

3307
03:17:54,630 --> 03:17:55,980
deaths construction.

3308
03:17:58,080 --> 03:18:00,540
The leaders of Iran are
racketeers

3309
03:18:00,570 --> 03:18:03,000
behind every problem is arann

3310
03:18:07,440 --> 03:18:10,440
what you said 2016. I liked it
when you said no more stupid

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03:18:10,440 --> 03:18:10,800
wars.

3312
03:18:12,570 --> 03:18:16,140
You gotta roll president in the
White House surrounded by these

3313
03:18:16,170 --> 03:18:19,800
Uber hawks that thirst for
another war with Iran.

3314
03:18:21,690 --> 03:18:25,710
International Atomic Energy
Agency has never found Iran in

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03:18:25,710 --> 03:18:28,110
contravention of stipulations in
the deal.

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03:18:30,090 --> 03:18:33,330
John C Dvorak: If Iran wants to
find that will be the official

3317
03:18:33,360 --> 03:18:38,580
end of Iran never threaten the
United States. Again. somebody

3318
03:18:38,580 --> 03:18:40,380
that wants to go into war in the

3319
03:18:40,380 --> 03:18:43,860
Unknown: United States heading
towards another Middle East

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03:18:43,860 --> 03:19:02,970
showdown this time with
iran.org/in

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03:19:03,030 --> 03:19:06,630
A. Thank you guys. Yeah, have a
great one.

