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John C Dvorak: I'm aghast. Oh
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
Devorah on a march 3 2024 This

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Year Award winning nation media
assassination episode 1639.

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Unknown: This is no agenda.

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Adam Curry: Antivirus for your
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the heart of the Texas Hill
Country right here in FEMA

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Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're

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celebrating Women's History
Month. And Johnson.

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Adam Curry: Hill. I have not
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month.

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John C Dvorak: Have you? Well,
it just started by No, but

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Adam Curry: it's just it's three
days in and I haven't noticed

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anything this is this is weird.
That's weird, huh? Yeah. Oh,

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John C Dvorak: well, no. Wait,
history events that took place

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there was the interview with
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Adam Curry: So please, that how
about this? How about this,

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there is a 75th anniversary
celebration of your show of

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democracy of democracy with Amy
Goodman. It's KPFA KPFA 75 years

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of building community trust.
It's in Berkeley right in your

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backyard. You can go hang with
Amy. Michelle, you want tickets?

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John C Dvorak: 75 years of
subversive programming over the

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air. They kept their license
hey,

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Adam Curry: I can get you
tickets would you like tickets

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ticket? Just 25 bucks for
tickets and you can hang out you

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can rub shoulders with Amy
Goodman. Yeah, yeah, baby. Yeah,

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baby. Hey, I got a I mean,
something beautiful happened.

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And it's one of those things
where it's like something cool

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happens. And then you look at
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sudden, you find out it was all
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John C Dvorak: mean like every
other thing that we discuss?

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Adam Curry: But this one is very
interesting. This is the German

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air force top brass.

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John C Dvorak: Well, yeah. On

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Adam Curry: a it's amazing how
it happens. You thought it only

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happened to Victoria Nuland. Now
the famous FTE you call. But

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there's some more details have
come out about this wiretap as

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the German air force top brass
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bombing stuff. The German

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wiretapped a conversation

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between German air force
generals about the war in

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Ukraine. The officers are
discussing Ukrainian forces

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using a German made a torus
cruise missiles to attack the

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bridge link in Crimea to Russia.
And Germany has so far refused

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to supply cube with the long
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ministry in Berlin has also now
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which surfaced on social media
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Scholz swift clarification for
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what is being reported is very
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necessary to begin a very
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investigation, not finish.

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Alexandra. This seems like a
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Have we heard any further
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love shows more cool here in the
room. We just got this one

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statement on the metro statement
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stressed that this this is a
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investigated, but then he went
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Rome. But of course, we know
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facing uncomfortable questions
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German officers was conducted
not on a secret internal army

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network but on the WebEx
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warnings by Germany's
intelligence services, that

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Russia uses Aska espionage and
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war. And we are already hearing
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lawmakers in the opposition but
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Adam Curry: blah blah you're
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John C Dvorak: I'm bored but I'm
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point. I think you should have
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don't think a lot of people know
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Adam Curry: You're kidding me?
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John C Dvorak: the extent that I
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which is, you know, what were
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Adam Curry: no, no, wait, wait.
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order. Because This is the only
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only news people are getting his
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the WebEx now. Thank you. Now we
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were talking about, which was
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to Crimea, and using Taris
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their already being British
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boots on the ground. And now we
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Rome, he once again said he
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ground in Ukraine, that
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prevent a war between Russia and
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government why they're not
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was that for that there would
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the ground in Ukraine. And
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learned that actually, that is
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discussion is going to be led in
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Adam Curry: Now remember, just
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chancellor Schultz came out and
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send any tourists missiles.
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going to be a part of that,
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you know, fighting a war with
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interesting part. This vid this
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Deutsche Chevelle is the first
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it in mainstream media. And the
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Russians. The Russians did it.
The Russians leaked it.

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kind of sensitive intelligence
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I would say it's two aims. The
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German government and German
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knows what is being debated on
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over the kind of access to these
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publish them in general. And the
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to Germany to make Germany Think
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missiles like ours to the
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kind of heavy weapons to the
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is, how far can Germany go? And
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supporting Ukraine without
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Adam Curry: Because, listen, if
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they have not said that they
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out. And in fact, I don't think
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military industrial complex.
signaling to Schultz, dude, yes,

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you will. We need purchases. You
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need those in the fields. You
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looking for your order. We're
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on Wednesday, Deutsche Avella
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know, oh, the Russians. Oh,
that's what this this whole boy

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WebEx, the same. Deutsche Avella
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minutes, who lives in Germany.
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to be the Allied Commander for
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some very interesting things to
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Unknown: General Stoltenberg
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chairman and Military Committee,
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Allied Commander, superb, but
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casler Seems the one that is the
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John C Dvorak: back did he say
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Adam Curry: Well, he's saying he
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here in German so we're saying
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like when Madonna lived in
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would have that phony accent but
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which is kind of funny. But
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board. Remember this is before
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Unknown: did unfortunately the
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one that is the most out of step
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really painful for him to be
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now, providing aid to Ukraine,
building out the bonus fare,

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different from what he ever
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he was a younger, Polish isn't,
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lesson. But it's essential. I
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prosperous, richest country in
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capacity has got to help guide.
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we're going to be in a terrible
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and Germany is going to pay a
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Adam Curry: I'm telling you
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listen carefully what he's
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Complex leak this call to send a
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Unknown: the thing they always
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we have to be fair with German
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and they're really like,
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military budget. Absolutely.

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That's, that's what's so
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ago, it was like, you know,
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Adam Curry: two years ago, he
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this is confusing. He needs a
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ammunition factory. Now another
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he would do. These are all good
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to a brigade the regatta Talon
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powerful, strong signals. But
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just the last few days, he's
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statement like we're not going
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the absolute refusal to provide
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clearly no way we're going to do
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unfortunate because that would
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Adam Curry: to make you comply
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John C Dvorak: we did the
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pretty sure we did this oh yeah,
but it's Russia Russia bull crap

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about oh don't use WebEx because
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not do but they did it anyway.
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best if you're told by the
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WebEx you don't go off with a
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Adam Curry: No of course not.
And it was really Cavalier these

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John C Dvorak: to you also did
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determined is a outlet for the
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Adam Curry: voice of reason.

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John C Dvorak: It says it's a
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whatever they do is suspect dude

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Adam Curry: we were we were
tapping angles we were tapping

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angle of Merkel's phone during
Obama. Command Germany Get with

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it. Now this this all this was
was oh, I'm sorry Sheltie and

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you're not hearing anything
about the content of the

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message. Now all you're hearing
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You don't want to use the stars
missile. These are great. i What

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is it? What is one of these
Taurus missiles costs? What's

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one Taurus pop? This is all it's
also so sneaky. Look it up. I

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mean, war is all wars about is
just money, money, money, money,

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money, money, money, money,
money. We're now printing money

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at the rate of what was it? $1
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To what I'm hearing, have you
heard this is just a meme. Oh,

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this is from CNBC. The US
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trillion about every 100 days.
That's three months. Now, so and

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what and what are we? Why are we
printing it to buy stuff for

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Ukraine? Which Don't worry
everybody. It goes right here in

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America. Someone actually gave
me said, Who was this, Eric, he

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propping up the US economy by
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John C Dvorak: The missiles cost
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Adam Curry: What but that's,
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what are we selling for retail?
That's only a million bucks.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, wow. I'm
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Adam Curry: by that. They need
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missiles. Nah, man, this is
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John C Dvorak: I get to screw
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Adam Curry: Well, that will be
wrong. Oh, well, we have. Let's

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see. Let's, I mean, they're so
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360s. Like, what can we do?
Let's bring out Garry Kasparov.

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John C Dvorak: anyone bringing
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just a complainer. Here he is in
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artillery in the counter
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it was, you know, at shells a
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about 10 because they just don't
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Adam Curry: they went from there
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this thing is having quicker
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Iran, North Korea this this this
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times more shells. I mean,
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and the free world is still
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with that. And Putin. Look at
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he delivered his he's a speech.
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talks about oh, let's wait for
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Russia. It was I'm not sure it
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cannot criticize acts of
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his life that he was murdered
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of Russian money frozen. Where
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Adam Curry: There you go. What
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the money 300 billion take the
money. That's why Garry Kasparov

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is there. Get that 300 billion
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that was Alinsky is no longer
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but they didn't have elections
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no provision in the Ukrainian
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have that automatically extends
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can't really even sign a peace
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John C Dvorak: yeah, this is
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fine print No, it is a
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Adam Curry: There's no there is
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John C Dvorak: gallery. He's
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nobody would say anything. I
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make. They're not negotiating
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negotiating. It's not even
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the news media. Nobody says
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Adam Curry: No, because that's
otherwise our economy collapses

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unless we can start a new war
now I think we're gonna do

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Hezbollah but this tiny to
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tiny. You know, Ukraine is just
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see how they can ever replace
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we we need many tanks and this
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missiles and lots of balls.
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wars. No good.

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Unknown: It's no good. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: be okay for the
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the real cleanup crews. People

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Adam Curry: you should read the
diary was a diary of an economic

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hitman diary. Diary of an
economic hitman fishing. Yeah,

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not not the reprints not the
updated version, John Perkins

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and explains exactly how this
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Ukraine is already starting.
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Kyiv. Now, that's what some of
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Address. He talked about the
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the West provoked the war in
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a moment. First, let's take a
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was a defensive operation in
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the armed forces fighting in
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home, but he didn't mention what
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its military action in Ukraine.
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been happening to his political
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leader Alexei Navalny, while
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message for Western countries
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as a separate afternoon, they
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military contingents to Ukraine.
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to those who used to send their
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consequences for these potential
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They need to finally understand
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they know that I have just
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that can strike targets on their
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they're thinking of now
everything that they used to

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threaten us on the world. That's
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nuclear weapons being used which
spell destruction of

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Adam Curry: Happy Times happy
times blood. Why isn't he dead

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from cancer? Why isn't he dead
from partners, other

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John C Dvorak: ailments?
Whatever else he had, supposedly

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had, yeah. So then maybe as I
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him because they've been seen in
the wild. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: So then there was
Alexina volleys funeral in

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Moscow, which was attended by
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had France 24 headed, but CNN Oh
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the site of new volunteers
funeral service. However, his

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Clarissa we were able to have
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the funeral. I mean, the world
is watching. What are you

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watching today?

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Adam Curry: Yes. What are you
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Unknown: Well, at the moment,
we're not able to watch the

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worry much because as you say it
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has been jammed. Oh yeah.
actuation facing the volleys

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Adam Curry: This is this is the
new glitch. The signal is being

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jammed, who

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Unknown: had also been putting
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Adam Curry: It was live streamed
on Facebook today is as much

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Unknown: about who is not there
as who is there. Who is not

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there is Alexei Navalny, his
daughter, Dasha, his son, as a

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HAR and his wife, Yulia and
Ivana who has been speaking

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publicly and boldly against
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husband was killed. She just
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Parliament. A few days ago, she
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Francisco while she was visiting
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is a student at Stanford
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indicated that she is really
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were, as you know, a leading
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but very telling that she is not
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can only presume just how
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even attempt to go back to
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Adam Curry: This is so this
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There was no signal jamming you
stuff doesn't work CNN, why

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can't she go back? Is it? Is she
on the hit list? Or did she ever

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scheduling conflict? That makes
no sense that she can't go back

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for the funeral. I mean, they're
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John C Dvorak: this funeral.
Such a big deal to any Americans

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whatsoever. Because it's a body
in the world was so involved not

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only was a minor character.
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Adam Curry: but you don't
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John C Dvorak: I understand
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Adam Curry: There's the quote
everybody. Well, that's it. It's

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to make it all scary. Extra
extra scary. Ah, yeah. Well, no

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worries. Everybody is not going
to be a nuclear war. But there

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will be more cool stuff that we
need to get into Ukraine. And

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Schultz will buy. He will buy.
He's got to

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John C Dvorak: foregone
conclusion. Well, I don't think

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blowing up that bridge is going
to be a good idea. Does that

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kind of blow up the bridge? The
channel, but that's what they

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keep talking about? Well, they

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Adam Curry: already tried that.

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John C Dvorak: No, no. Yeah,
that didn't work out either. But

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Adam Curry: they're not sincere
about it. That's what I mean.

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It's like if they really wanted
to blow up the bridge, it would

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John C Dvorak: Well, you listen
to the thing and you can

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understand German and you
yourself said that it was it was

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Cavalier in the way it was done.
And I'm thinking they're just

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reading from a script for the
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big fuss.

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Adam Curry: It's amazing how
much English words they use. I'm

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always surprised by that when I
go to the Netherlands, how much

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English is infused into the
language? You know, they're

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talking about Qt, you know,
like, and QA and quality

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assurance and quality testing.
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said, but one of the I think
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ground, I mean, it's, it's
ridiculous that you're listening

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to our show. Oh, there you go.
And the whole thing is

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ridiculous. It's just the prop
up the world. They need to get

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Trump in real quick. Trump loves
to buy military stuff. He

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doesn't like war, which is good.
Trump's even better. He gets all

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the spending without the
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John C Dvorak: I mean, they she
does he does, that's actually a

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skill. Yeah,

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Adam Curry: it's a benefit. I'm
all on board with that. We'll

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give everybody jobs, build up
your arsenal, and stop killing,

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that would be great.

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John C Dvorak: too, so I
collected some clips from and

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the reason for a couple of
reasons that Tucker was on Lex

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Friedman, talking about Russia
and as a Russia stuff is

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Adam Curry: it's very
interesting that you that you

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clip this, I'm surprised it's
interesting

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John C Dvorak: to meet you. But
the clips I have are not what

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you'd expect, okay. They're
mostly screwball clips. But the

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Adam Curry: we talk about wizman
first for a second, where he

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comes from, why is he all of a
sudden, the guy

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John C Dvorak: I wanted to
before you'd say that? I want to

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say you said I believe it was
about Lex Freeman some months

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back, that he would be he was
moving in on the hegemony of Joe

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Rogan's long form, interview
style. Yes. And that was who you

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were talking about, right? Lex
Friedman? Yes, correct. Well,

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I've never seen him before.
Well, he just somehow he

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Adam Curry: just appeared on. I
looked it up because he suddenly

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just appeared on the scene in
2018. Right,

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John C Dvorak: doing long form
interviews with extremely high

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profile people. Yes. Which is
not something you can just do

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Adam Curry: here. Here's what
gave him his rise to prominence.

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He co authored a non peer
reviewed study, which concluded

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00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:16,050
that drivers he was he worked at
MIT and the autonomous driving

449
00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:19,830
department. The study non peer
reviewed study that concluded

450
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:24,000
that drivers remained focused
while using Tesla's semi

451
00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:31,110
autonomous system. And then he
got boosted by Elon Musk. So I

452
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:35,340
think that's how he rose to
prominence is Elon started

453
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:41,340
boosting him? Which is in itself
interesting. And then all of a

454
00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:45,060
sudden he's getting it. He's Joe
Rogan was on his show, Joe Rogan

455
00:27:45,060 --> 00:27:49,050
brought him like a $10,000 watch
as a gift, which I found

456
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,340
interesting. But yes,

457
00:27:54,780 --> 00:27:56,220
John C Dvorak: yeah, Joe July.

458
00:27:56,310 --> 00:28:00,420
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. I mean, I'm, I don't

459
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:03,210
know if it was $10,000. But it
looked like a pretty expensive

460
00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:08,250
watch. And I thought that was
odd. That that's very odd at the

461
00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:09,270
time with

462
00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:12,660
John C Dvorak: a guy, okay, a
couple of things. And so far is

463
00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:15,990
competing with Joe Rogan. He has
no charisma at all.

464
00:28:17,910 --> 00:28:20,010
Adam Curry: He has the corrosive
charisma of a man and black. I

465
00:28:20,010 --> 00:28:23,310
mean, that's literally like from
from The Matrix movie. That's

466
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:25,770
what he looks like. That's a
charisma. He has nothing more,

467
00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:26,610
nothing less.

468
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:29,880
John C Dvorak: He has a pile of
papers that Deadwood that would

469
00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:33,330
compete with Jen Sakis pile of
papers when she was press

470
00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:36,450
secretary. Yeah. That he goes
through so the questions are

471
00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:41,460
prepared, Rogen is used as the
kind of I would say Rogan is

472
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:45,420
closer to Larry King in the way
he does interviews. According to

473
00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:47,880
Adam Curry: goat in the troll
room. Joe and Lex had been

474
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:54,480
friends for close to a decade.
Really? Okay, well, how

475
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,620
John C Dvorak: did they become
friends?

476
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:58,770
Adam Curry: I don't know. By
decade. That's a long time a

477
00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:00,390
decade. Yeah,

478
00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:02,460
John C Dvorak: consider ones
from MIT and did studies on

479
00:29:02,460 --> 00:29:07,080
autonomous driving the other
guy's a Hollywood guy. Okay,

480
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:10,980
that's pretty obscure. Okay,
well, whatever the case, so he

481
00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:14,790
will keep an eye on him. Yeah.
So there was some interesting

482
00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:19,740
stuff that was in this interview
with Tucker. And Tucker is an

483
00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:22,740
easy guy, obviously an easy guy
to interview because he's like a

484
00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:32,130
woman. He can talk forever. Yes.
So let's let's so I had a few

485
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:38,370
cute ones here that were I got
four short clips that I thought

486
00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:42,690
were interesting. And let's
start with we can even skip the

487
00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:45,600
num all new one if you want.
Whatever you want. It's up to

488
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,990
you. Let's go with Jed Tucker on
on lawyers. This was

489
00:29:48,990 --> 00:29:49,560
interesting.

490
00:29:50,550 --> 00:29:53,010
Unknown: My lawyers before I
left and these are people work

491
00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:55,470
for a big law firm. This is not
Bob's law firm. This is one of

492
00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:58,380
the biggest law firms in the
world. My lawyer Bob is insulted

493
00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:01,170
Tucker said you're gonna get
arrested if You do this by the

494
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,560
US government on sanctions
violations? And I said, why? You

495
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200
know, I don't I don't recognize
the legitimacy of that,

496
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720
actually, because I'm American.
And I've lived here my whole

497
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,720
life. And that's so outrageous
that I'm happy to face that,

498
00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:17,100
that risk, because I shall
reject the premise. Okay, I'm an

499
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,770
American, I shall talk to anyone
I want to and I plan to exercise

500
00:30:19,770 --> 00:30:22,710
that freedom, which I think I
was born with. I gave him this

501
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:26,820
long, long lecture. They're
like, what does lawyers but that

502
00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:30,690
was, um, it was of me put it
this way. I don't know how much

503
00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:33,990
you dealt with lawyers. But it
costs many 1000s of dollars to

504
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:37,620
get a conclusion like that. Like
they sent a whole bunch of their

505
00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:39,810
summer associates or whatever
they said, they put a lot of

506
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:43,140
people on this question, checked
a lot of precedent. And I think

507
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,810
and they sent me a 10 page memo
on it. And their sincere

508
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:49,650
conclusion was, do not do this.
And of course, it made me mad.

509
00:30:49,650 --> 00:30:51,960
So I was lecturing on the phone.
And I had another call with the

510
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,170
head lawyer, and he said, Look,
a lot will depend on the

511
00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:59,190
questions that you ask Putin. If
you're seen as too nice to him,

512
00:30:59,550 --> 00:31:02,340
you could get arrested when you
come back. And I was like,

513
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:05,400
you're describing a fascist
country. Okay. You're saying

514
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800
that the US government will
arrest me if I don't ask the

515
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,230
questions they want to ask is,
that's what you're saying? Well,

516
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:12,270
we just think, based on what's
happened, that that's possible.

517
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:14,610
And so I'm just telling you what
happened. So

518
00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:18,690
you were okay, being arrested in
Moscow? That was arrested? And

519
00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:21,720
I didn't think that for a
second. I mean, maybe look, I

520
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,200
don't speak Russian, I'd never
been there before. Everything

521
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,460
about the culture was brand new
to me. You know, ignorance does

522
00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:33,120
protect you sort of when you
have no freaking idea what's

523
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,550
going on, you're not worried
about it like this happen to me

524
00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:38,760
many times. There's a principle
there that extends throughout

525
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,550
life. So it's completely
possible that I was in grave

526
00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:43,950
peril and didn't know it.
Because, like, how would I know

527
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:46,470
it? You know, I'm like a
bumbling English speaker from

528
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:46,920
California.

529
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,150
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
He's never been to Russia. I

530
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,160
John C Dvorak: thought it was a
lot that was interesting in that

531
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,870
but yet you there's a guy. I
know. I felt

532
00:31:57,870 --> 00:31:59,370
Adam Curry: the same. And I've
been to Russia. You've been?

533
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,750
You've been to Russia. We're
kind

534
00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:03,900
John C Dvorak: of Russia before
the fall of communism. Jews

535
00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:08,640
Adam Curry: were like semi? Yes,
I was there an 8889. We're semi

536
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,860
worldly guys. But we're no
Tucker Carlson.

537
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:14,670
John C Dvorak: I'm always
surprised by guys like Tucker

538
00:32:14,670 --> 00:32:21,360
Carlson at that pinnacle that he
sits on, has done things like

539
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,540
never been to Russia. It seems
like if you're going to be

540
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:27,900
Tucker Carlson, you have been to
Russia more than one you would

541
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,620
think so. Yeah. So this was his
first trip. So he was

542
00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:34,740
flabbergasted when he went, so
he never got to see what you got

543
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:37,650
to see. I got to see. For
example, before the fall of

544
00:32:37,650 --> 00:32:43,740
communism, the GM store the G
um, department store, which was

545
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:48,120
this giant monstrosity of a the
world's supposedly the world's

546
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,200
first department store that had
absolutely nothing for sale. My

547
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,720
Adam Curry: favorite was when we
did the Moscow music Peace

548
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,660
Festival. We had this huge 15
Camera truck from Cinna video in

549
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:05,820
Holland who drove there and and
before everything went up to the

550
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:09,360
to the uplink the satellite
uplink, it went into this gray

551
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,080
bus with curtains, which
literally had the size of a

552
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,590
Volkswagen bus. And that
supposedly was the KGB, who were

553
00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:19,740
there monitoring the signal. It
was hilarious. I was picking up

554
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:24,000
the phone I had a 212 area code
dial tone from the Westwood one

555
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,020
truck. And these guys were
sitting in this little VW bus

556
00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:32,370
gray with drawn curtains. It was
nothing it was it was it was

557
00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:36,480
shambles. shambles, I tell you,
and the only thing that was

558
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,900
really cool was the Moscow Hells
Angels that we met at three in

559
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:44,730
the morning. Wow. Yeah. Who
apparently could just roam

560
00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:46,620
around and do whatever they
wanted. I

561
00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:49,110
John C Dvorak: should write a
book about that. The you should

562
00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:53,280
and I think the we have a
publisher gave you publishing.

563
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:55,770
Adam Curry: Do you have a ghost
writer though as the questions

564
00:33:55,770 --> 00:33:59,580
you have. You can write I can't
write I've tried this so many

565
00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:04,260
times. I fail. I fail at writing
I'm a I'm a I'm a verbal

566
00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:05,160
communicator

567
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,570
John C Dvorak: mean is pitching
me but not plugging the Aigues

568
00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:09,900
book

569
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,170
Adam Curry: I told him to I told
her to she called me

570
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,329
John C Dvorak: to the website
get a free PDF just limit up we

571
00:34:18,329 --> 00:34:22,649
have by the way. We have no
agenda finally you think that

572
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,179
took forever? The vinegar book?

573
00:34:25,739 --> 00:34:27,659
Adam Curry: We're waiting for
that. Yeah. Where's the what do

574
00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:29,579
we have no agenda what? The

575
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:32,460
John C Dvorak: no agenda primer
the ABCs book that Jay worked on

576
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:33,720
when she was in high school.

577
00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:35,670
Adam Curry: That's a book.

578
00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:37,710
John C Dvorak: Don't you
remember

579
00:34:37,740 --> 00:34:41,400
Adam Curry: is it done? is so
long ago has isn't isn't for

580
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,880
sale.

581
00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:44,670
John C Dvorak: It's going to be
she's going to the printer so

582
00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:47,850
it'll be coming out. We have
another website the gate view

583
00:34:47,850 --> 00:34:51,270
publishing.com which will have
that oh, this is the idea for

584
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:53,400
that but you know you want to
get to buy the book now. Kids

585
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,660
book. We don't know how to price
it. Ask Adam she says she wants

586
00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:01,860
to price it for $30 No. 30 Henry
version 33 cents I said no.

587
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:05,250
Adam Curry: Yes. 3333 it will
sell like hotcakes.

588
00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:09,420
John C Dvorak: The kids book,
Hey,

589
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,510
Adam Curry: my friend Ross and
Marielle they just had a kid,

590
00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:17,520
too. This morning Roman is born,
I will buy a $33.33 cent kid's

591
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,720
book for Roman.

592
00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:24,660
John C Dvorak: Well, I was
hoping to get some. Thanks.

593
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,350
Well,

594
00:35:25,350 --> 00:35:28,530
Adam Curry: you wanted more? You
want to charge more? No, I think

595
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,900
I think it's a great item. And
oh, man, and we'll all sign it.

596
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:38,640
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, for
the for 3333. You better sign

597
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,570
Adam Curry: exit strategy, kids
books, who would have thought?

598
00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:45,930
John C Dvorak: So the other
thing about the this this

599
00:35:45,930 --> 00:35:51,150
particular piece was the idea
that a top law firm would tell

600
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:54,570
you not to go to Russia to
interview Putin as a journalist.

601
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,630
Well, I have speakers might get
arrested when you come back.

602
00:35:58,530 --> 00:35:59,880
What kind of lawyers are

603
00:36:00,270 --> 00:36:02,310
Adam Curry: now this so there's
something else there's something

604
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:05,850
going on here with a prominent
person in Fredericksburg, I'm

605
00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:08,700
not going to mention it. But
that but the Department of

606
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:12,330
Justice is going after this
person to an incredible degree.

607
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:16,050
I talked to this person
regularly. And we already know

608
00:36:16,050 --> 00:36:18,600
who it is. And it's trumped up
No, we haven't discussed it on

609
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,990
the show. And you know why? And
it's quote unquote, trumped up

610
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:27,870
charges. That should give you a
clue. And the lawyers is these.

611
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:30,780
It's unbelievable to me what
they're doing. I'm like, dude,

612
00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:34,650
they're just making up work
here. And that just scaring you

613
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:38,910
into stuff. You have nothing to
fear. They just scaring this

614
00:36:38,910 --> 00:36:41,940
person into, oh, well, they
could this could happen or that

615
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:47,910
can happen. And like, what? It's
It's incredible how bad in

616
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:53,040
general, the legal profession
has become. And it's millions of

617
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,530
dollars. Millions.

618
00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:58,530
John C Dvorak: This is just a
gouge class it. Yes.

619
00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,530
Adam Curry: Yes. And I bet you
that Tucker said 1000s and

620
00:37:01,530 --> 00:37:05,190
1000s. I bet he paid $100,000
for that 10 Page opinion.

621
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,620
Because it wasn't it wasn't
Bob's law firm. By the way. Bob

622
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:14,340
is our lawyer. He I met him in
Fredericksburg. Robert, our

623
00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:16,890
constitutional lawyer. That's
Bob's lawyer. He's a great guy

624
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:18,270
costs zero.

625
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:21,840
John C Dvorak: That's why he's
Bob. Yeah.

626
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:23,850
Adam Curry: You're right. Good
point.

627
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,420
John C Dvorak: All right. So
anyway, so I found that to be a

628
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:30,330
distressing, yes. That was
distressing. But more

629
00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:33,060
distressing is this clip. This
is him on Snowden.

630
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,110
Unknown: But then there's
another fact, which is that I

631
00:37:37,110 --> 00:37:40,260
was being surveilled by the US
government intensely surveilled

632
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,780
by the US government. And this
came out they admitted it, the

633
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:45,360
NSA admitted it a couple of
years ago that they were up in

634
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,670
my signal account. And then they
leaked it to the New Yorker. So

635
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:51,240
they did that again, before I
left. And I know that because

636
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,970
two New York Times reporters,
one of whom I actually like a

637
00:37:53,970 --> 00:37:57,870
lot, said, Oh, you're going and
called other people. Oh, he's

638
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:00,720
going in if you put I'm told
anybody that like anybody, my

639
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:04,350
wife, to producers, that's it.
So they got that from the

640
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:06,960
government. Then I'm over there.
And of course, I want to see

641
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,060
Snowden, who I admire. And so I
have we have a mutual friend. So

642
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:15,510
I got his texts and come on over
and Snowden does not want

643
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:18,420
publicity at all. And so but I
really wanted have dinner with

644
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:22,560
them. So we had dinner in my
hotel room at the Four Seasons

645
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,360
in Moscow and for

646
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:30,210
Adam Curry: a second. How can
the Four Seasons be operating in

647
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:36,090
Moscow? Is that not a violation
of all sanctions? Sounds like it

648
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:42,120
everybody had to close
McDonald's Burger King. But yet,

649
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:45,240
four seasons is operational. The
Four Seasons

650
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:49,080
Unknown: in Moscow and I tried
to convince him I'd love to do

651
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,760
an interview shoot on my iPhone.
You know, I'd love to take a

652
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,740
picture together and put it on
the internet because I just want

653
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:59,070
to show support because I think
he's been railroaded. He had no

654
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,670
interest in living in Russia, no
intention of being in Russia.

655
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:05,670
The whole thing is alive anyway,
whatever. All this stuff and he

656
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:08,370
just said respectfully I'd
rather not anyone know that we

657
00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:11,160
met. Great. The only reason I'm
telling you that

658
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,380
Adam Curry: wait a minute, why
is Tucker saying it now?

659
00:39:13,650 --> 00:39:15,090
John C Dvorak: He explains it.
Oh, I'm sorry.

660
00:39:15,150 --> 00:39:18,300
Unknown: I'd rather not anyone
know that we met. Great. The

661
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,020
only reason I'm telling you this
is because and I didn't tell

662
00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:26,190
anybody and I didn't text it to
anybody. Okay, except him.

663
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:35,880
semaphore semaphore runs this
piece saying, report reporting

664
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,660
information that got from the US
Intel agencies leaking against

665
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:43,980
me using my money in my name in
a supposedly free country. They

666
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:47,010
run this piece saying I'd met
with Snowden like it was a crime

667
00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:51,060
or something. So again, what my
interest is in the United States

668
00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:53,370
and preserving freedoms here,
the ones that I grew up with,

669
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:56,880
and if you have a media
establishment that acts as an

670
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,350
auxilary of or acts as employees
of the national security state

671
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,640
you don't have a free country.

672
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,190
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, hello, wake
up call for Tucker Carlson. Wow,

673
00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:12,210
Tucker, do not know that
everything is recorded and all

674
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:16,890
they have to do is just retrieve
it when they want to. He doesn't

675
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:21,120
mention you know, the the
amendment that removes the

676
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,460
warrant requirement for a FISA
request. Oh my god, someone

677
00:40:26,460 --> 00:40:27,510
educate Tucker?

678
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,800
John C Dvorak: Well, I think he
knows what he says later that he

679
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:34,320
he's already talked to the Intel
people about the Fed that

680
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,910
everything signal all these
crazy systems that you can, you

681
00:40:38,910 --> 00:40:42,060
know, suppose they are secure,
aren't secure, they got by

682
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:45,120
backdoors. And everything's
being recorded. And he kind of

683
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,160
knows that. So I think he did
the story. So he could slam by n

684
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Smith and semaphore, which is a
really dubious news operation,

685
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,160
which is out there.

686
00:40:56,190 --> 00:40:58,830
Adam Curry: By the way, what
you're saying about signals is,

687
00:40:59,370 --> 00:41:02,790
is quite an accusation. Because,
you know, they're Whoa, they're

688
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:08,700
big nonprofit. And they're very,
very, very adamant about how

689
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,970
secure their system is. And with
that, I'd like to, I'd like to

690
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:15,720
mention everybody, if you're
using proton mail, for some

691
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,740
reason, and I'm not against it,
proton mail has decided to send

692
00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:23,700
everything to me encrypted,
which is great. So I guess if

693
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:29,400
you've had an email conversation
with me, my you know, I have my

694
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:33,900
encryption, public key in my
signature file. protonmail

695
00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:37,410
automatically encrypts your
email to me, which is new. The

696
00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:40,950
problem is if you don't include
your public key, I can't reply

697
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:46,020
to you securely but that's a new
thing. I'd found that very

698
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:48,000
interesting. has happened
started happening the beginning

699
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,630
of this week.

700
00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:56,220
John C Dvorak: Ah, yeah.
Interesting. So anyway, he goes

701
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:59,850
on about this. This meeting he
had with snow and that's what

702
00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:02,070
happened and he was blown out

703
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,650
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, of
course, of course semaphore with

704
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:08,280
anything that Scott Professor
Scott Galloway likes reading

705
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,790
it's got to be compromised. Key
and Karish wish I was Oh

706
00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:15,090
semaphore OHS? I love reading
semaphore. But of course, it's

707
00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:17,220
run by your intel agencies. We
got it.

708
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,210
John C Dvorak: I don't think is
that good? No, that's

709
00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:23,250
Adam Curry: why they read it.
They're not informed. Hello.

710
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:30,450
Okay, so Tara and Scott man

711
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:40,320
John C Dvorak: doing I don't get
it. So here he is talking about

712
00:42:40,770 --> 00:42:43,140
this is kind of funny, because,
you know, he's, like I said,

713
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:45,510
he's a chatterbox. So he can go
on and on. And he does a good

714
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:49,440
self effacing thing here, which
is, it doesn't so casually. He's

715
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,510
really, he's got over time, I've
actually come to admire Tucker,

716
00:42:54,510 --> 00:42:58,380
even though he's, like you said,
I think he's like foolish crap

717
00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:02,820
about a lot of stuff. And, you
know, like you said, I'm a gas

718
00:43:02,820 --> 00:43:10,170
Oh, Guy gambling. And so, here
he is with Putin on Putin, who

719
00:43:10,170 --> 00:43:13,680
was a little, a little bit on
here. And he goes on about this

720
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,410
a lot more, and I'll explain
what he said. on

721
00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:18,750
Unknown: certain topics, know
what it would mean to ask a

722
00:43:18,750 --> 00:43:21,990
tough question, clarifying
questions, I suppose they would,

723
00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:25,200
I guess I just wanted him to
talk. You know, I just wanted to

724
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,550
hear his perspective. Again,
I've probably asked more asshole

725
00:43:29,550 --> 00:43:33,420
questions. And like any living
American, you know, I'm as, as

726
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:38,490
has been noted correctly, I'm a
dick, by my nature. And so I

727
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,370
don't I just feel at this stage
in my life, I didn't need to

728
00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:45,930
prove that I can answer the
question. Sure. You know, I

729
00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:50,250
think if I had been, you know,
34, instead of 54, I definitely

730
00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:51,780
would have done that. Because I
would have thought this is

731
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:55,170
really about me, and I need to
prove myself. No, I just there's

732
00:43:55,170 --> 00:44:00,720
a war going on. That is wrecking
the US economy in a way and at a

733
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,510
scale people do not understand
the US dollar is going away.

734
00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:06,690
That was, of course inevitable,
ultimately, because everything

735
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:11,580
dies, including currencies. But
that death, that process of

736
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:14,670
death has been accelerated
exponentially by the behavior of

737
00:44:14,670 --> 00:44:16,710
the Biden administration in the
US Congress, particularly the

738
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:20,130
sanctions and people's donors to
what the ramifications of that

739
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:22,320
are the ramifications for
poverty in the United States.

740
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,750
John C Dvorak: Hmm. It goes into
a long diatribe, which I should

741
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:32,160
have clipped about the sanctions
and how it's driving Russia to

742
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,240
China and also its bolstering
the BRICS

743
00:44:36,420 --> 00:44:40,650
Adam Curry: it I think that's
that's a fair statement. And

744
00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:43,680
John C Dvorak: BRICS, which now
have like about 25 other

745
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,240
countries that want to join.
Yeah, they're they don't have

746
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:54,510
the combined GDP of the United
States in Europe, but with

747
00:44:54,510 --> 00:44:59,970
China, and its GDP, and then all
these little countries. This

748
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,590
Dining to put their their eggs
in one basket and then create

749
00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:07,680
their own currency is a huge
threat. Yes.

750
00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:11,100
Adam Curry: Well, Saudi Arabia
is. So the Saudis are in there

751
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:12,030
in the bricks now,

752
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:16,740
John C Dvorak: all these people
and it's and he really thinks

753
00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:21,150
this is a major concern. Now,
typically we've always worm our

754
00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:25,260
way out of these situations the
United States does because we're

755
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:29,250
smarter in terms of the finances
and entrepreneurship, a lot of

756
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:33,390
things. Okay, our use of the way
we use capitalism is a little

757
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:35,730
more aggressive than others.
We've

758
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,010
Adam Curry: We've hoodwinked our
people into just letting the

759
00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:38,430
wheat rant

760
00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:43,320
John C Dvorak: over again, and
we won't we haven't stopped yet.

761
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:45,300
Adam Curry: No, it's grabbing
the hoodwink is great.

762
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:49,440
Everyone's like boy Oh, dollar.
But I think the mistake was

763
00:45:49,470 --> 00:45:54,210
kicking Russia off of Swift. And
if if if they do what this this

764
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:59,130
nutjob Kasparov says, if they
steal the $300 billion, that

765
00:45:59,130 --> 00:46:02,130
will that will be a tipping
point for the US dollar system.

766
00:46:02,130 --> 00:46:02,310
That

767
00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:05,640
John C Dvorak: would be big, but
it hasn't happened yet. I'm I'm

768
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,830
on the side that it shouldn't
happen. It won't happen.

769
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:10,770
Adam Curry: I agree. You're no I
agree with you. I think they're

770
00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:11,550
gonna do it.

771
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,380
John C Dvorak: That I don't
think they're going to do it.

772
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,510
Okay. If they do it there, this
is a grave error. Yes. And

773
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:20,760
Adam Curry: no, I agree with
you. That's a grave error. But I

774
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,550
just think that that's stupid,
or arrogant,

775
00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:26,160
John C Dvorak: or maybe they're
doing it arrogance is the right

776
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,880
word, hubris. There's a lot of
arrogance, especially in this

777
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:36,690
particular administration of
relative dummies. Yes, they're

778
00:46:36,690 --> 00:46:42,060
dumb. They're a dumb, dumb, dumb
administration. They're just a

779
00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:45,570
press secretary, John Pierre is
a perfect example. She just

780
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:46,890
seems stupid. She's

781
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:50,040
Adam Curry: a troll. She's she's
a she's a literal troll troll,

782
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,840
too, in her journey, her job and
you know, I have a trolls, the

783
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,770
trolls troll, because they're
just projecting their rejection,

784
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,040
you know, their own rejection.
In life, the rejections they've

785
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,470
received, they're projecting
that and that is what she's

786
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:09,900
doing. And she's good at it. She
trolls, the media and people

787
00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:13,650
every single you really think
she's stupid. She is trolling.

788
00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:18,090
John C Dvorak: I've seen her on.
I remember seeing her on MSNBC.

789
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:21,870
years before she became
depressed secretary and she is

790
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:23,100
genuinely stupid.

791
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:26,250
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, not all
Trump, not all trolls. They

792
00:47:26,250 --> 00:47:28,740
wouldn't live under bridges if
they were smart. I mean, be

793
00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:29,580
honest about yeah, there's

794
00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:32,430
John C Dvorak: other things to
do with your life. So the last

795
00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:35,220
clip is a little bit about
Nirvani. And it's not I don't

796
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:38,250
think it kind of plays in
earlier clues. But it's just not

797
00:47:38,250 --> 00:47:41,760
that is interesting. Is the
Lawyer just open the Snowden

798
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,030
clip.

799
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:44,940
Unknown: It's just a minute, we
can listen to it. But do we know

800
00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:49,440
how we died? Short answer? No,
we don't. Now, if I had to guess

801
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,460
I would say killing Ivani.
During the Munich Security

802
00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:57,090
Conference, in the middle of the
debate over $60 billion in

803
00:47:57,090 --> 00:48:00,480
Ukraine funding. Maybe the
Russians are dumb. I didn't get

804
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,640
that vibe at all. You know, I
just don't I don't see it. But

805
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,590
maybe, you know, maybe they
killed him. I mean, they

806
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:08,220
certainly put him in prison,
which I'm against. But here's

807
00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:10,830
what I do know, is that we don't
know. And so when Chuck Schumer

808
00:48:10,830 --> 00:48:12,450
stands up, he

809
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:15,000
Adam Curry: said, Here's what I
do know, do know that we don't

810
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,290
know what does he say? Certainly

811
00:48:16,290 --> 00:48:19,650
Unknown: put him in prison,
which I'm against. But here's

812
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:22,260
what I do know is that we don't
know. And so when Chuck Schumer

813
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:26,910
stands up and Joe Biden reads
some card in front of him with

814
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:29,430
lines about Nuvali. It's like,
I'm allowed to laugh at that,

815
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:30,990
because it's absurd. You don't
know.

816
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:34,170
I mean, there's a lot of
interesting ideas about if he

817
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:38,880
was killed who killed him? Yeah,
because it could be Putin. It

818
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,480
could be somebody in Russia who
is not Putin. It could be

819
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,940
Ukrainians, because it would
benefit the war

820
00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:49,290
surgeons daughter in Moscow. So
yeah, that's possible. And

821
00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:53,070
it could be Pfizer in the United
States could also be involved. I

822
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:53,220
don't

823
00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:55,620
think we kill people in other
countries to affect election

824
00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:57,990
outcomes. Oh, wait, no, we do it
a lot.

825
00:48:59,370 --> 00:49:00,570
Adam Curry: Pfizer killed him.

826
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,090
John C Dvorak: We all know this.
They never mentioned Pfizer?

827
00:49:03,390 --> 00:49:05,730
Adam Curry: Of course not. Of
course not. That's because the

828
00:49:05,730 --> 00:49:07,230
control. The blood clots

829
00:49:07,230 --> 00:49:09,900
John C Dvorak: are caused by any
of the vaccines. I mean, even

830
00:49:10,620 --> 00:49:13,860
j&j, we had that issue and
AstraZeneca. For sure.

831
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,260
Adam Curry: While we're on the
military industrial complex,

832
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:20,100
Defense Secretary Austin, if
it's really defense secretary

833
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:21,300
Austin. Hey, I

834
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:25,350
John C Dvorak: still haven't
seen him standing. That's my

835
00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:27,540
kid. Look, I'm looking at
waiting to see him stand because

836
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:30,480
he's a big tall guy. Although I
think you could have had the leg

837
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,450
up or at you know, that leg up
or she was stretchered. Sure.

838
00:49:33,450 --> 00:49:34,410
ABS Yeah. He's

839
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:36,720
Adam Curry: been in hospital
long enough for them to stretch

840
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,780
him out. Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Here's NBC

841
00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:41,970
Unknown: News reports since
Secretary Lloyd Austin in the

842
00:49:41,970 --> 00:49:46,230
hot seat today, it was a failure
of leadership House Republicans

843
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:49,380
grilling Austin for not telling
the White House he was diagnosed

844
00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:53,070
with prostate cancer underwent
surgery for it and weeks later

845
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:55,710
was hospitalized with serious
complications.

846
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,310
I found it very concerning that
sick Terry could be hostile

847
00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:03,780
hospital Cost of three days
without anyone else in the

848
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:06,750
administration even noticing
either the

849
00:50:06,750 --> 00:50:13,950
President is that aloof or you
are irrelevant. Which one is it?

850
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:15,630
Mr. Secretary? It's the either

851
00:50:15,870 --> 00:50:19,350
Democrats or forgiving. You want
to know what accountability is

852
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:22,860
accountability is having to come
and sit in front of people and

853
00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:26,790
their outrage and their drama.
Terry, emphasizing that someone

854
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:28,620
was always in control. There

855
00:50:28,620 --> 00:50:31,590
was never a lapse, and
authorities or command and

856
00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:32,160
control,

857
00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:35,730
but acknowledging a breakdown in
the notification process.

858
00:50:35,790 --> 00:50:38,550
We did not handle this right.
And I did not handle it right.

859
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:39,990
Although Austin

860
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:43,530
took responsibility. He also
said he assumed his staff would

861
00:50:43,530 --> 00:50:44,250
manage it.

862
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:47,520
I never directed anyone to keep
my hospitalization from the

863
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,810
White House. On Monday,

864
00:50:48,810 --> 00:50:51,870
the Pentagon releasing a summary
of a classified review that

865
00:50:51,870 --> 00:50:55,410
blamed a lack of notification in
part on a lack of written

866
00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:59,250
guidance, but also on staff not
wanting to pry into Austin's

867
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:02,760
health, the review recommending
new procedures, if any

868
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,750
American worker did what you
did, they would be fired. No.

869
00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:07,140
And

870
00:51:07,170 --> 00:51:10,770
the question still remains, why
did it take the Pentagon three

871
00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:14,160
days to tell President Biden his
defense secretary was in

872
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,120
intensive care.

873
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,120
Adam Curry: It's unbelievable
that they do news about this,

874
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:23,640
who cares? It's a show the whole
thing is a show, and it's a bad

875
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,930
show. No,

876
00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:28,410
John C Dvorak: I disagree. 100%
with this 100% 100% I

877
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:30,000
Adam Curry: think it's a good
show.

878
00:51:30,030 --> 00:51:32,940
John C Dvorak: I disagree with
you. 95.5%. You

879
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:34,080
Adam Curry: think it's a good
show?

880
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,230
John C Dvorak: I think they know
he's dead. And they're just

881
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:44,130
trying to humiliate the
administration by bringing this

882
00:51:44,130 --> 00:51:48,210
out and asking him stupid
questions that they know the

883
00:51:48,210 --> 00:51:49,230
answer to well, let's

884
00:51:49,230 --> 00:51:51,720
Adam Curry: see what ABC did
with this. With this show.

885
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Unknown: It was the first time
the Defense Secretary appeared

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before Congress after failing to
alert the White House about his

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prostate cancer surgery and his
emergency hospitalization days

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later.

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I did not handle it right. As
you know, I've apologized

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including directly to the
President. And I take full

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responsibility. Austin

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insisting there was no lapse in
the chain of command, given that

893
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his deputy took control. But
Republican lawmakers showed

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Austin no mercy,

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someone needs to be held
accountable. Congressman Jim

896
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banks calling it an
embarrassment

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either the President is that
aloof? There's the clip for you

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are irrelevant. Which one is?
Terry, do you read that the

899
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President would go three days
without knowing that his

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Secretary of Defense is is not
on the job? It's

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the either the President is not
aloof, Austin said.

902
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Adam Curry: What's this aloof
business?

903
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:55,350
John C Dvorak: Look up. Let me
let me go. Let me know what

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aloof means in the way they're
using it is wrong. aloof, not

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friendly or forthcoming, cool
and distant? What does that got

906
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to do with him knowing whether
or not this defense secretary is

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there?

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Adam Curry: I think he said a
goof. Is he a good boy?

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Unknown: Oh, yeah, that would be
it is not on the job.

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It's the either. The President
is not aloof. Austin

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said he never told staff his
absence was because of a

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scheduled surgery or that he was
later rushed back by ambulance

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because of complications.

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When did your staff find out you
were at the hospital?

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I don't know when

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John C Dvorak: that the very
beginning of that he lost his

917
00:53:39,090 --> 00:53:42,120
Ed. Voice. Oh, it's a real
voice. We

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Adam Curry: go, man, this. I
mean, did you feel worse than I

919
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:48,810
am with the moon landing on this
thing? No. Here we go.

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complications.

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Unknown: When did your staff
find out you were at the

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hospital?

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Adam Curry: Yeah. That was the
real the actor. I

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Unknown: don't know when. When
you

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don't know when you told you're
getting better at the hospital.

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Are you kidding me? But
Democrats defended Austin

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arguing Congress's focus needs
to be passing a stalled military

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aid PAC money for Ukraine.

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John C Dvorak: I would challenge
any member on the other side of

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this aisle to claim that the
Secretary of Defense, not fully

931
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informing the president for
three days is somehow more

932
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important than walking away
money, that obligation that we

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00:54:28,770 --> 00:54:31,680
need and that the whole world is
watching us on

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Adam Curry: the whole world
watching us. No, that's the

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00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:42,330
military industrial complex
watching you. It's

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00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:47,070
John C Dvorak: the CEOs of
Boeing and Lockheed. Yes, yes,

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00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:48,030
they're watching you.

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Adam Curry: Meanwhile, speaking
of the President being aloof or

939
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a goof Dr. Jen Yoshi is
America's favorite doctor. For a

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she Typically on ABC in the
morning, she went, she stayed at

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the studio a little longer. And
she went to the view. And I

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think I mean, we know the view
is very scripted the view, it's

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admitted that everything they
say is scripted. There's very

944
00:55:15,630 --> 00:55:19,770
little room for ad libbing and
Dr. Jim came on with a message,

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which was, I think, a message
for the American people.

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Unknown: I think in my medical
opinion, first of all, how does

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he compared to a 54 year old
woman? I couldn't do that job.

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Adam Curry: This is regarding
his clean bill of health at

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00:55:34,770 --> 00:55:35,430
Walter Reed.

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John C Dvorak: Biden's Biden's
energy level because you know,

951
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:41,580
his sharpest attack. Yes,
sharpest?

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Unknown: I think in my medical
opinion, first of all, how does

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he compared to a 54 year old
woman? I couldn't do that job.

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Yeah, right. Being president,
there were some glaring

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omissions in that physical
report. It was about seven

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pages. We all got a copy of it.
From the President's physician,

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we do what's called a review of
systems. Anytime we do a

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physical exam on someone that
includes not only just general

959
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neurologic evaluation, but a
mental evaluation, a screening

960
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for depression or psychiatric
illness, mental illness,

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00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:19,680
anxiety, not in their cognitive
exam, not in their genital

962
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,280
urinary exam, prostate exam, not
in there. We can all

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check on him. It was

964
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it was comprehensive, in his
doctor's opinion. Yeah. But what

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was released to the public, if
you're a health care

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professional, you know, what
things have not been in there?

967
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:44,760
You know, so again, maybe they
were done but not released? I

968
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would like to think that they
were probably done but not

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released. Yeah.

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The question is, can they do the
job and it looks like he can. I

971
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am not his physician. But you
know, again, I he does have a

972
00:56:57,390 --> 00:57:00,270
qualified physician. And it was
a thorough report. But

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something's missing.

974
00:57:01,590 --> 00:57:04,350
Adam Curry: Come on. This is
signaling that the guys have

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00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:08,670
dead. Doctors, America's
favorite doctor saying, you

976
00:57:08,670 --> 00:57:14,490
know, well, you know, I didn't
see a review of systems. That's

977
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a message. The view is a
messaging system.

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280
John C Dvorak: That's a good
catch on that clip. It's, it's

979
00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:24,960
concerning. very concerning.
Well, everybody knows what's

980
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,440
going on. It's not like a big
shock to anybody that Biden's

981
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,240
got one foot in the grave.

982
00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:33,390
Adam Curry: I loved it. Man. I
didn't forget to clip that. I

983
00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:36,300
love where he was. He had phony
Maloney sitting at the

984
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:41,310
fireplace, Maloney of Italy, and
he's talking about dropping aid

985
00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:43,800
to Gaza. And then all of a
sudden he starts yapping about

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Ukraine. And she's the funniest.
She's like looking at her paper

987
00:57:47,490 --> 00:57:49,890
like what was he talking about?
And she's looking at him like,

988
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what's wrong with you, man?
You're talking about Ukraine all

989
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:54,660
of a sudden. That was crazy.

990
00:57:56,550 --> 00:58:00,510
John C Dvorak: Here play this is
my last Ukraine. This is true

991
00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:00,990
though.

992
00:58:03,630 --> 00:58:05,940
Adam Curry: This clip has been
sent to us several times and I

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00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:08,460
for some reason neither of us
clipped it until now.

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00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:11,730
Unknown: We know that Russia
must win this war. That's a

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00:58:11,730 --> 00:58:15,210
story that Ukraine must win this
war against Russia.

996
00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:18,210
Adam Curry: Oh poor guy can't
catch a break.

997
00:58:19,290 --> 00:58:21,630
John C Dvorak: He doesn't
deserve a break that guy can't

998
00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:26,370
catch a break man. Let's see.

999
00:58:27,810 --> 00:58:29,610
Adam Curry: Where do you want to
go next? I mean there's there's

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a lot of stuff happening and
that people are supposed to be

1001
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:36,180
John C Dvorak: very upset about
oh, I have a series of clips now

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00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:41,730
okay, which show you that the
phony baloney This is a four

1003
00:58:41,850 --> 00:58:46,560
clips and they're not long. But
this is a boat shows you the

1004
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,930
phony baloney nature of PBS News
hours. debate between Brooks and

1005
00:58:51,930 --> 00:58:55,830
Capehart. How goodness you know,
kind of fight. This has fight to

1006
00:58:55,830 --> 00:58:58,140
be in agreement with each other.
The only ratings

1007
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:00,030
Adam Curry: this show has is our
show.

1008
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:04,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, that
to be true, yes.

1009
00:59:04,860 --> 00:59:07,860
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is the
so called public broadcast

1010
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:12,630
systems in America with a so
called count point counterpoint.

1011
00:59:12,780 --> 00:59:15,360
Right left red blue discussion.

1012
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:20,310
John C Dvorak: So let's start
with Capehart. On immigration

1013
00:59:20,310 --> 00:59:21,480
flub one

1014
00:59:21,630 --> 00:59:23,820
Unknown: president of the
sitting President of the United

1015
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:28,140
States, in conjunction with the
Senate Majority Leader, Chuck

1016
00:59:28,140 --> 00:59:30,660
Schumer, Chuck Schumer, along
with one of the most

1017
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:34,830
conservative members of the
Senate. Oh my gosh, I can't

1018
00:59:34,830 --> 00:59:39,420
believe I'm spacing on his
Langford, senator from Oklahoma,

1019
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:43,080
but they sat down and hammered
out a deal after the President

1020
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,220
went before the nation and said
everything is on the table. I'm

1021
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:50,010
willing to negotiate. They
negotiated they came up with a

1022
00:59:50,010 --> 00:59:55,020
bill that bits and pieces of it
were leaking out that was so bad

1023
00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:58,380
from the President's base
perspective that they were

1024
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,620
raising hell about if this
becomes law, this is going to

1025
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:05,160
set immigration policy back for
a long time. But the President's

1026
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,660
thought we need to do something.
They come up with the bill. And

1027
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:14,700
what happened, Donald Trump made
a phone call, or put out some

1028
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:16,500
social media posts to it.

1029
01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:20,130
Adam Curry: I love I love this,
this this meme that even

1030
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,050
everyone is repeating it. Donald
Trump stopped this bill full.

1031
01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:29,730
How does Donald Trump control
everything

1032
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,950
John C Dvorak: then why he made
a phone call,

1033
01:00:32,010 --> 01:00:35,280
he made a push. But here's,
here's what you really heard it.

1034
01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:37,650
Adam Curry: He made he made a
perfect phone call.

1035
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,250
John C Dvorak: So here's what
you heard in this clip, I get

1036
01:00:41,250 --> 01:00:45,120
the joke. Okay. He hears what
you heard in this clip, he

1037
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,480
couldn't remember Lankford his
name, and it shook him.

1038
01:00:49,290 --> 01:00:51,150
Adam Curry: Because he's an
operative, and he should have

1039
01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:52,230
known better. He's

1040
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:54,570
John C Dvorak: an operative and
he should know better. And he's

1041
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,740
in he thinks of himself as
slick. Okay, and so when he so

1042
01:00:58,740 --> 01:01:02,910
now it starts to, and now it's
eating at him, and you're gonna

1043
01:01:02,910 --> 01:01:04,650
hear some glow coming up. It's

1044
01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:07,680
Adam Curry: gonna fall apart
here. Right? Because you're

1045
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,590
John C Dvorak: going with clip
two Republicans

1046
01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:15,060
Unknown: refused to take yes for
an answer. And gave the

1047
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:18,240
president gave President Biden
the perfect thing to go before

1048
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,030
the nation and say, I'm trying.
I was part of this deal. They I

1049
01:01:24,030 --> 01:01:26,970
gave them basically everything
they wanted. And they still

1050
01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:30,210
said, No, those people are not
serious. And I think if he

1051
01:01:30,210 --> 01:01:34,290
hammers that message, time and
time again, I think I think it

1052
01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:35,070
will break through.

1053
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:38,640
John C Dvorak: Oh, they didn't
give anything that the

1054
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,910
Republicans wanted. That bills a
piece of crap. And it didn't

1055
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:44,580
address the pretty much
anything. It

1056
01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:47,490
Adam Curry: was not the one that
Chuck Schumer voted no on. Yes.

1057
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,840
When Chuck Schumer wrote and
voted no on. But if Chuck

1058
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,320
Schumer had voted yes, it would
have passed. No, you

1059
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,300
John C Dvorak: it doesn't make
any difference who actually yes,

1060
01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:00,210
it would have passed, it would
have passed because it was 49 to

1061
01:02:00,210 --> 01:02:01,230
50, which is

1062
01:02:01,230 --> 01:02:05,250
Adam Curry: my understanding
that Schumer that in order to

1063
01:02:05,250 --> 01:02:09,600
bring a bill up again, he had to
vote no, someone, someone that's

1064
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:09,720
the

1065
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,030
John C Dvorak: thesis, I've
heard it a million times. But

1066
01:02:12,030 --> 01:02:14,850
when is it going to be brought
up? When does that ever happen

1067
01:02:14,850 --> 01:02:18,810
to they bring the failed bill up
again? Well, that is a nonsense

1068
01:02:18,810 --> 01:02:22,950
thesis. And why did Elizabeth
rewarmed vote? No, because she

1069
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:26,430
could have voted yes. Well,
she's all his huge voting

1070
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:27,450
stooge.

1071
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:32,400
Adam Curry: He's just stooge who
hurt Americans with these bogus

1072
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,780
over the counter hearing aids
spared for you? I hate her for

1073
01:02:36,780 --> 01:02:40,920
that. I really? I mean, of
course, I pray for her man, but

1074
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:46,020
men should call back. She's bad.
Yes. All right, we

1075
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:48,180
John C Dvorak: move on to clip
three, do the thing which

1076
01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:50,640
Unknown: I think the British
have done, which is to say,

1077
01:02:51,180 --> 01:02:54,780
we're going to stop the asylum
process until we can digest all

1078
01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:57,690
the people who have already in
the system. And that will at

1079
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,420
least try to impose some order,
because if there's just chaos,

1080
01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:01,830
it's gonna be just bad news

1081
01:03:01,830 --> 01:03:05,250
from him. But the only problem
is it that'd be a great thing to

1082
01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:09,390
do, David, but there's no money.
One of the things about that

1083
01:03:09,390 --> 01:03:12,840
Senate Bill was that it was
giving funding to allow the

1084
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,230
Customs and Border Patrol to do
the things you were just saying.

1085
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:20,130
So the chaos will continue. Not
because the President isn't

1086
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,750
doing enough, but because but
because the Senate can't pass a

1087
01:03:24,750 --> 01:03:27,990
bill that would make it possible
for the President to do what he

1088
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:31,410
wants to do, but also for
Republicans to get done. What

1089
01:03:31,410 --> 01:03:34,830
they say needs to be needs to be
done for years now.

1090
01:03:36,450 --> 01:03:41,070
John C Dvorak: Okay, so he's
losing it. drained out by the

1091
01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:46,140
moderator now, that what, what
Brooks mentioned, which was Stop

1092
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:49,740
it, and let's just process the
people we've got before we keep

1093
01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:53,340
letting you know, 10s of 1000s
more people in this guy had no

1094
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:57,240
answer for that. And now here it
comes. Here comes that what's

1095
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:02,370
really going on on this pro on
PBS, with this guy in

1096
01:04:02,370 --> 01:04:03,270
particular?

1097
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,310
Unknown: Well, let me ask you
this, because the President is

1098
01:04:05,310 --> 01:04:08,070
weighing some executive action
apps and congressional action

1099
01:04:08,070 --> 01:04:12,270
that would allow him to tighten
asylum rules. So if there is a

1100
01:04:12,270 --> 01:04:14,610
problem, and both sides say that
there is a problem at the

1101
01:04:14,610 --> 01:04:17,280
southern border, and he has the
authority to tighten the asylum

1102
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,170
rules, why not do it? What's he
waiting for?

1103
01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:22,560
I mean, I wonder, does he really
have does he really have the

1104
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,250
power? Why I wonder if the White
House and you should ask me that

1105
01:04:26,250 --> 01:04:28,590
question beforehand, so I could
have made some calls might have

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01:04:29,010 --> 01:04:30,540
to see what they're doing.

1107
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,440
Adam Curry: Wow, I need to call
the White House get my talking

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01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,160
points.

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,910
John C Dvorak: Wow, believe what
he just said. Yes. I

1110
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:41,070
Adam Curry: think this just
credits any more clips from them

1111
01:04:41,070 --> 01:04:42,240
ever again on the show.

1112
01:04:43,350 --> 01:04:46,380
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you
this. After that, he realized

1113
01:04:46,380 --> 01:04:48,840
what he said I don't have any
more clips because it would have

1114
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,990
gotten tedious. But he realized
what he just did. He said that I

1115
01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:59,430
need I talked to the why not
much of an analyst really I have

1116
01:04:59,430 --> 01:05:02,640
to let The White House telling
me what to say or share it. I

1117
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,590
Adam Curry: told me that later
earlier I should have known

1118
01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:06,330
well, no man

1119
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,100
John C Dvorak: can was upset
after that. He was fumbling and

1120
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:17,640
mumbling he knew what he did. He
couldn't take it back. No, it

1121
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:21,480
was an humiliation. And that
whole segment your you know,

1122
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:26,100
basically, right, this segment
is a humiliation, it is not news

1123
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:29,730
and analysis is what does the
White House telling me to say?

1124
01:05:29,730 --> 01:05:33,270
Let me say it, what good is that
we can just listen to the White

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01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:34,680
House for that. Well, here's

1126
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,350
Adam Curry: what the White House
said on February 29. There's a

1127
01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:40,020
screenshot in the show notes
just to make sure in case they

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01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:44,670
decide to change it. February
29, the fact sheet impact of

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01:05:44,670 --> 01:05:50,430
bipartisan border agreement
funding on border operations. So

1130
01:05:50,430 --> 01:05:54,900
this is about the bill and it
says here, listen to this. The

1131
01:05:54,900 --> 01:06:01,380
bill also includes $1.4 billion
for cities and states who are

1132
01:06:01,380 --> 01:06:06,690
providing critical services to
newcomers and would expedite

1133
01:06:06,690 --> 01:06:09,960
work permits for people who are
in the country and qualified

1134
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,470
there it is newcomers. We didn't
know if it will be called

1135
01:06:13,470 --> 01:06:20,700
visitors or the but they're just
taking newcomers as illegal

1136
01:06:20,910 --> 01:06:26,640
immigrants. Newcomers newcomers
there it is. And we were joking

1137
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,420
about it just two weeks ago. Now
they were joking about

1138
01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:34,140
John C Dvorak: how I have this
sheet here this one did CPR news

1139
01:06:34,140 --> 01:06:37,320
a Denver talked about how
they're going to we're making a

1140
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,140
language style change that we
hope will humanize people

1141
01:06:40,140 --> 01:06:44,310
arriving in Colorado from the
border what what bordered in

1142
01:06:44,370 --> 01:06:48,270
Colorado that being shipped in
Yes, for the past year and a

1143
01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:51,750
half Denver right in Colorado
public radio had been following

1144
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:54,540
the stories of people arriving
from the border many of them

1145
01:06:54,540 --> 01:06:58,590
traveled through multiple
countries, multiple risking

1146
01:06:58,590 --> 01:07:03,990
their lives and well being to
get to the United States. We've

1147
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:07,800
heard stories of news items on
the radio, all these the word

1148
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,890
migrant has been featured
prominently as a bank blanket

1149
01:07:10,890 --> 01:07:15,690
term. And it goes on and says
you stop using migrant Oh, what

1150
01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:17,010
Adam Curry: do we use now
newcomer

1151
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:20,700
John C Dvorak: new immigrants?
No,

1152
01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:22,170
Adam Curry: I just call them new
immigrants.

1153
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:25,290
John C Dvorak: So they want to
come new immigrants not not

1154
01:07:25,290 --> 01:07:28,350
migrants minus illegals

1155
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,500
Adam Curry: but illegal aliens.

1156
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,060
John C Dvorak: That was like a
month ago. You have the new one

1157
01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:39,930
new comers, comers. Let's move
to newcomers and hope that in

1158
01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:41,640
the style guide and use that

1159
01:07:42,780 --> 01:07:47,790
Adam Curry: newcomers it's one
word. Newcomers one word. So

1160
01:07:47,790 --> 01:07:52,830
there was an interesting media
moment Oh, surprise, as both

1161
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,880
President Biden and former
President Trump went to the

1162
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,360
border on the same day, two
different spots on the border of

1163
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,910
course. And here's an OP from
CBS two

1164
01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:05,340
Unknown: reports. The President
and the former president who

1165
01:08:05,340 --> 01:08:07,620
wants to replace him in the
White House played the blame

1166
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:09,840
game today along the US Mexico
border they

1167
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,120
John C Dvorak: engaged as a
Biden invasion over the past

1168
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:12,780
three years.

1169
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,480
Unknown: President Biden said it
was Donald Trump who urged House

1170
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,940
Republicans to kill the bill
that would have beefed up

1171
01:08:17,940 --> 01:08:19,110
security at the border.

1172
01:08:19,169 --> 01:08:21,869
This time for the speakers and
some of my Republican friends in

1173
01:08:21,869 --> 01:08:25,139
Congress for blocking this bill
to show little spine

1174
01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:28,380
after a record number of illegal
crossings last year, President

1175
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:31,560
Biden who toured the border in
Brownsville, Texas, he's trying

1176
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,620
to show he's addressing an issue
that more than 60% of voters

1177
01:08:34,620 --> 01:08:38,160
call a very serious concern.
Just hours before the

1178
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,040
President's arrival here in
Brownsville US Border Patrol in

1179
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,770
Texas State police say they
stopped people on the other side

1180
01:08:43,770 --> 01:08:47,160
of the border from bringing
across drugs. But Chris Cabrera

1181
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,410
of the Border Patrol said that
with the illegal crossings into

1182
01:08:49,410 --> 01:08:52,590
this part of Texas down
recently, the President has come

1183
01:08:52,590 --> 01:08:54,900
too late. But I think the timing
is a little off.

1184
01:08:54,929 --> 01:08:57,569
I mean, if you would have come a
year ago, two years ago, three

1185
01:08:57,569 --> 01:09:01,049
years ago, Trump who visited
Eagle Pass more than 300 miles

1186
01:09:01,049 --> 01:09:04,019
away continued exploiting a
crisis that he couldn't solve

1187
01:09:04,019 --> 01:09:07,169
either hoping it'll put them
back in the White House. Ally

1188
01:09:07,169 --> 01:09:10,109
say he's planning mass
deportations and detention camps

1189
01:09:10,139 --> 01:09:13,829
if elected. Today, he sought to
falsely connect President Biden

1190
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:15,929
to the recent murder of a
Georgia nursing student by a

1191
01:09:15,929 --> 01:09:19,739
Venezuelan migrant who entered
the country illegally in 2022.

1192
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:20,339
The

1193
01:09:20,340 --> 01:09:23,850
John C Dvorak: monster that
charged charged in the death is

1194
01:09:23,850 --> 01:09:26,940
an illegal alien migrant who was
let into our country and

1195
01:09:26,940 --> 01:09:29,880
released into our communities by
crooked Joe Biden,

1196
01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:32,490
Unknown: the president who
didn't address Trump's attacks,

1197
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,040
said they should work together.
Join

1198
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,120
me for I'll join you in telling
the Congress to pass this

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,920
bipartisan border security bill.

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01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:44,280
Adam Curry: This is very this is
a very interesting strategy. And

1201
01:09:44,310 --> 01:09:50,400
I'm surprised by it. That that,
you know whoever is running Joe

1202
01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:54,180
said, Okay, here's what you do
call out to Trump and say join

1203
01:09:54,180 --> 01:09:58,740
me. Since you control the
Republicans, Senate and

1204
01:09:58,740 --> 01:10:03,240
Congress. Join me Join me this
day, the current Devora

1205
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,120
Consulting Group, I do not think
would have advised this. What do

1206
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,390
you think? Seems like poor
advice.

1207
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:14,460
John C Dvorak: It's not good to
put him in a week's position. I

1208
01:10:14,460 --> 01:10:18,990
agree. I definitely would not be
advised. And somebody obviously

1209
01:10:18,990 --> 01:10:21,390
told him that is not something
he dreamed.

1210
01:10:22,890 --> 01:10:25,590
Adam Curry: We know the guy
doesn't she's barely functioning

1211
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:26,730
this is you know, and you can

1212
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:29,820
John C Dvorak: tell, but the key
part character goes on about how

1213
01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:34,680
Trump called one guy or posted
something. They don't know why

1214
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,340
he did, but he's the one
responsible somehow, it gives

1215
01:10:38,340 --> 01:10:42,090
them too much power. And you're
not in California, but there's a

1216
01:10:42,180 --> 01:10:46,500
series of very interesting
series of ads for the US. We

1217
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:49,590
have a new US Senator, we need
to vote in it's either going to

1218
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:53,580
be Adam Schiff, or Steve Garvey,
the baseball player. Oh,

1219
01:10:54,090 --> 01:10:56,850
Adam Curry: that is the baseball
player, isn't it? I was like,

1220
01:10:56,850 --> 01:10:58,230
what this is a sports ball

1221
01:10:58,230 --> 01:11:01,170
John C Dvorak: guy. Yeah, sport.
He's, I think it was first base

1222
01:11:01,170 --> 01:11:06,180
for the Dodgers. Anyway, he was
a very machine like player is

1223
01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:07,800
very nobody liked him up here.

1224
01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:11,580
Adam Curry: Because he didn't
play good sports ball. No,

1225
01:11:11,580 --> 01:11:11,760
because

1226
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,870
John C Dvorak: he was a Dodger.
Oh, okay. Gotcha. Schiff has

1227
01:11:15,870 --> 01:11:20,610
been doing these ads, where he's
promoting Steve Garvey was

1228
01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:23,790
saying he's a dick. Oh, and
Steve Garvey is no good for

1229
01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:28,350
California. He's terrible. We've
got to stop Steve Garvey. And

1230
01:11:28,350 --> 01:11:31,620
Steve Garvey, who said that
doesn't have half the budget of

1231
01:11:31,620 --> 01:11:32,190
shift.

1232
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:36,450
Adam Curry: He's loving it. He's
like, give me more give me more

1233
01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:37,080
attention.

1234
01:11:37,650 --> 01:11:39,690
John C Dvorak: He's getting a
lot of attention he's getting

1235
01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:42,960
people are going, why should we
stop and what is he done? It

1236
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,380
means bringing the guy to the
fore his numbers keep going up

1237
01:11:46,410 --> 01:11:50,940
with very little advertising.
Because this idiot Schiff, Adam

1238
01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:55,020
Schiff, keeps promoting Steve
Garvey in his advertising is

1239
01:11:55,020 --> 01:11:58,980
some of the dumbest it's the
stupidest thing you can do. This

1240
01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:02,130
is like, why Trump doesn't want
to keep talking about Nikki

1241
01:12:02,130 --> 01:12:04,800
Haley. Don't give us any more
ammunition.

1242
01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:08,610
Adam Curry: Alright, let's talk
about people who matter like Joy

1243
01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:13,020
read his joy read you know,
she's moved to primetime. You

1244
01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:17,760
know, this is and this is her.
Oh, she She's everywhere. She's

1245
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,150
very important now to MSNBC. And
I think again, I'm going back to

1246
01:12:21,150 --> 01:12:25,140
most theory, finding Willis is
taking the fall for not being

1247
01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:29,250
able to stop you know, Trump
legally in Georgia. And boy is

1248
01:12:29,250 --> 01:12:32,430
she is she taking the fall I
mean, boy has gotta beaten her.

1249
01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:35,520
You got to feel bad for and
Trump Of course he can't do it.

1250
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,710
This is just pounding it all.

1251
01:12:37,740 --> 01:12:41,220
John C Dvorak: Here's a woman
way This is funny. Phony Willis,

1252
01:12:41,220 --> 01:12:45,270
who came out and ran on the
proposition that it will be no

1253
01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:48,690
no saying there will be no she
went on and on about it. No.

1254
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,890
Adam Curry: Yeah. Brett

1255
01:12:52,890 --> 01:12:55,290
John C Dvorak: noising at the
office now that's out. Yeah, I

1256
01:12:55,290 --> 01:13:01,260
know. I know. So you can't feel
sorry for this I is ironic. The

1257
01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:04,020
other one that Leticia James is
getting it. And then now we have

1258
01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:07,740
a third black woman. The this is

1259
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:10,770
Adam Curry: I'm going to repeat
most theory. Yay. As a theory

1260
01:13:10,770 --> 01:13:14,940
said that, you know, all of this
Dei, all have all been you know,

1261
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:18,780
putting black women front and
center. And by the way, Korean

1262
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:24,060
John Paul Pierre abdul-jabbar is
also going to go they will all

1263
01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:27,270
take the fall when Trump and
we're just going to presume that

1264
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:31,650
when he is elected, they are all
going to be blamed for it. And

1265
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,920
according to mo he says, Look,
this is it. Now it's time for

1266
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,250
you you ladies to shine, time
for you to go and show you

1267
01:13:38,250 --> 01:13:42,660
better do it now. And it's not
happening. And the read the read

1268
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:47,370
out. Joy read will probably be
in that pile as well. Now she

1269
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:51,030
had on just sticking with
immigration for a second Maria

1270
01:13:51,030 --> 01:14:01,590
Teresa Kumar. And she, she's big
in the I think it's Latin ex

1271
01:14:01,950 --> 01:14:08,820
Latin ex political rights
activist. Are you familiar with

1272
01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:09,120
her?

1273
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,540
John C Dvorak: Not offhand. I
saw her picture I might

1274
01:14:12,540 --> 01:14:13,830
recognize you're pretty young.

1275
01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:17,790
Adam Curry: She's born in 1974.
She's from Colombia, actually.

1276
01:14:17,790 --> 01:14:19,530
So let's see what she has to say
here. Well, and I

1277
01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:21,720
Unknown: think one of the things
that we all also have to realize

1278
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:24,900
is that the by the time that
someone gets to the border, Troy

1279
01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:28,140
that is not our immigration
policy. Right, right. We have to

1280
01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:30,510
recognize that the reason that
we got to this moment was that

1281
01:14:30,510 --> 01:14:33,660
Trump themselves dismantled a
lot of the programs where people

1282
01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:37,770
could go ahead and file for some
sort of visa or work permit in

1283
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:41,220
their home countries. And in an
effort to rebuild that you had

1284
01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:45,000
COVID that really up ended Latin
America specifically, had close

1285
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,470
to 16 million middle class Latin
Americans that went directly

1286
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:53,160
into lower class. They went into
poverty, and there was no

1287
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,790
response internationally from
any of this. So as the as the

1288
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:59,280
President goes in and talks
about how tricky this situation

1289
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,120
is, how's it Western hemispheric
issue. I hope he also recognizes

1290
01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:06,930
that there are essential workers
that are demanding relief that

1291
01:15:06,930 --> 01:15:10,110
have been here for 1020 30 years
that have been paying their

1292
01:15:10,110 --> 01:15:14,160
taxes, who have American
children who are ready to vote

1293
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,250
for him. If he actually
recognizes their contribution.

1294
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:17,850
What he

1295
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:19,740
is saying what Trump is saying
he's gonna do is just deport

1296
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:22,470
them all. He says he's gonna
deport 10. He wants to know

1297
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:23,910
who's whose. This

1298
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:26,880
Adam Curry: is fear mongering
this is this is her job now is

1299
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,450
to, hey, you've been here for
1020 years be very worried. This

1300
01:15:30,450 --> 01:15:34,290
is the same thing they're doing
in Germany with the IFA, the

1301
01:15:34,290 --> 01:15:37,290
alternate alternative for
Deutschland, same thing.

1302
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:40,020
European hair, he's going to
deport you.

1303
01:15:40,590 --> 01:15:43,350
Unknown: Who is I think anybody
Latino is suddenly going to be

1304
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:46,830
targeting Asian or anybody, no
one with an accent, an accent,

1305
01:15:46,830 --> 01:15:50,820
right? And anybody right Black
wants to formula. That's

1306
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,630
John C Dvorak: the goal. The
goal now Cheech and

1307
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:57,150
Unknown: Chong better hide hold
operation went back Park sorry

1308
01:15:57,150 --> 01:15:59,040
for the horrible words, but
that's what they call this.

1309
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,810
Eisenhower wants to

1310
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,290
Adam Curry: hear what she said
went back they will listen. Yes,

1311
01:16:04,290 --> 01:16:05,910
she says she apologizes

1312
01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:08,490
Unknown: suddenly going to be
talking to me. Or anybody with

1313
01:16:08,490 --> 01:16:10,920
an accent right? And anybody
right black or brown? I mean,

1314
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,070
he's wants to formulate this
program that's based on what he

1315
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:16,380
called Operation went back Park
sorry for the horrible work

1316
01:16:16,380 --> 01:16:16,710
women

1317
01:16:16,740 --> 01:16:19,260
Adam Curry: Operation Wetback
wasn't that in the Che Guevara

1318
01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:19,920
days?

1319
01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:21,570
John C Dvorak: Let's look it up.

1320
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:28,230
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm pretty
sure. Operation Wetback. I'm

1321
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:30,210
going to finish this clip. 18
seconds while you look. He

1322
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,480
Unknown: wants to formulate this
program that's based on what

1323
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:35,400
he's called. Operation went
back. Pardon. Sorry for the

1324
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,870
horrible words, but that's what
they call.

1325
01:16:38,010 --> 01:16:40,050
John C Dvorak: That's what he
wants to have to stop it. Okay.

1326
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:48,000
Operation went back. 1954 Che
Guevara by no is a US policy by

1327
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,840
US Attorney General Herbert
brah. BROWN Well, the short

1328
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,220
lived operation using military
tiles style tax tactics that

1329
01:16:56,220 --> 01:17:00,030
can't read today to remove
Mexican immigrants. Some of them

1330
01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:03,960
American citizens from the
United States operation went

1331
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,910
back into Wikipedia, some

1332
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:07,290
Adam Curry: American citizens.

1333
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:11,610
John C Dvorak: It was headed by
Ed Yeah, okay.

1334
01:17:11,610 --> 01:17:13,470
Unknown: Sorry for the horrible
words, but that's what they call

1335
01:17:13,470 --> 01:17:15,930
those Eisenhower. Yeah. And
that's what he wants to do. It's

1336
01:17:15,930 --> 01:17:19,710
a mass cruelty program. But what
he's keying in on is that people

1337
01:17:19,710 --> 01:17:22,230
are angry, and they just want to
see something cool. The same

1338
01:17:22,230 --> 01:17:25,050
people who didn't mind that
children were being taken off of

1339
01:17:25,050 --> 01:17:27,180
their the breasts of their
mothers as their breastfeeding.

1340
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:30,480
Grandma, my parents had in mind
that they want them back.

1341
01:17:31,650 --> 01:17:33,690
Adam Curry: These people, they
just want to see something

1342
01:17:33,690 --> 01:17:37,680
cruel. Yes. It's like the Roman
days and the Colosseum. We just

1343
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,800
want to see something cruel and
something bloody. There's a part

1344
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,760
two to this. We don't

1345
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,980
Unknown: level with each other
because one of the reasons why

1346
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:47,220
we are enjoying such an economic
bump, immigration, immigration

1347
01:17:48,810 --> 01:17:50,790
call i Oh, sup.

1348
01:17:51,690 --> 01:17:55,830
Adam Curry: We're enjoying an
economic bump right now. Because

1349
01:17:55,830 --> 01:18:00,480
of immigration. So all right,
yes. This is what they're saying

1350
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,650
that the economy is great. His
point one, the economy is great.

1351
01:18:05,250 --> 01:18:08,130
And, and because all these
people who are sleeping in

1352
01:18:08,130 --> 01:18:14,550
airports and in repurposed
hotels, and the schools now

1353
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:18,870
being forced to stay in people's
homes, like in Massachusetts,

1354
01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:22,950
this is providing an economic
bump. Oh, it's immigration,

1355
01:18:22,980 --> 01:18:24,990
Unknown: we don't level with
each other. Because one of the

1356
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:28,200
reasons why we are enjoying such
an economic bump, immigration,

1357
01:18:28,350 --> 01:18:31,470
immigration, the folks that have
crossed the border and said, You

1358
01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:35,220
know what, and this is what we
forget really unifies us. The

1359
01:18:35,220 --> 01:18:38,040
folks that come to the United
States as immigrants, they come

1360
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,500
with this idea that they can be
the best version of themselves

1361
01:18:40,530 --> 01:18:45,060
in this country. It is our
ancestors of entrepreneurs. And

1362
01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:48,000
we forget that that is the
lifeblood that again, who is

1363
01:18:48,030 --> 01:18:50,880
afraid of that? It's the
Russians and the Chinese. And we

1364
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,550
have to be very, very clear that
what is happening right now on

1365
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:56,220
social media when they're trying
to separate us. Yes, it's the

1366
01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:59,550
far right. But the algorithms
fed into us are also foreign

1367
01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:03,120
actors. Recognizing that our
Achilles heel is the racism but

1368
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,210
that are unique in our
multicultural strength allows us

1369
01:19:06,210 --> 01:19:06,660
to compete

1370
01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:08,670
in the world. That is the thing
that's sort of mad at me is that

1371
01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:12,570
Russia doesn't have to like
invent conspiracy theories to

1372
01:19:12,570 --> 01:19:15,480
hurt the US. They just have to
take the people's already

1373
01:19:15,870 --> 01:19:20,700
existing anxiety. Right, it's
working and it's working because

1374
01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:21,780
people here are letting it work.

1375
01:19:25,770 --> 01:19:27,660
Adam Curry: Putin does it again.

1376
01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:31,260
John C Dvorak: So what is a
couple of lunatics Joy

1377
01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:34,590
Adam Curry: read is going to go
down to they're all going.

1378
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:39,630
They're all going down. So
obvious. You know, there's

1379
01:19:39,630 --> 01:19:44,040
something we forgot to talk
about, which I think we should

1380
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,650
probably probably mention. Here
we go is

1381
01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:52,470
Unknown: a spa, the spa, the
spa, the spoon. Everybody wants

1382
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:54,120
to spot the spoon.

1383
01:19:54,450 --> 01:19:59,970
Adam Curry: Yeah. Catherine
herridge who was fired from CB

1384
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,980
Yes with the latest rounds of
CBS fairings paramount in big

1385
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:05,580
Violetta,

1386
01:20:05,610 --> 01:20:07,650
John C Dvorak: but another one
of those black high profile

1387
01:20:07,650 --> 01:20:09,150
black woman who was

1388
01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:15,000
Adam Curry: that who did it?
Yeah. So our, our initial

1389
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:19,890
reaction was she's being
reassigned. And I wonder, and I

1390
01:20:19,890 --> 01:20:24,450
felt that a good cover already
was, yeah, they got her papers

1391
01:20:24,450 --> 01:20:27,750
to get her papers, they got her
papers, or they got her papers.

1392
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:32,010
So that's crazy that the feds
got her papers. And that to me

1393
01:20:32,010 --> 01:20:35,820
make really gives her a lot of
credibility forever. She lands

1394
01:20:35,820 --> 01:20:40,650
next. But now, now I'm starting
to doubt our theory, as she's

1395
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,520
being held in civil contempt for
refusing to divulge her source.

1396
01:20:44,910 --> 01:20:45,300
Yeah.

1397
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:50,040
John C Dvorak: Now, based on
some blog suit that's going on

1398
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,210
where the person that's being
sued is demanding that they find

1399
01:20:54,210 --> 01:20:58,170
out something or others the
Chinese Chinese woman has a very

1400
01:20:58,170 --> 01:21:01,710
complicated case, but I
disagree. I think the further

1401
01:21:01,710 --> 01:21:03,780
you go down the road with this
the more and

1402
01:21:03,780 --> 01:21:07,680
Adam Curry: more more
credibility. So now she so now

1403
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,900
not only is she credible because
of the feds who got her papers,

1404
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:16,230
which is credible, because Don't
worry, she'll never reveal you

1405
01:21:16,230 --> 01:21:17,070
as a source.

1406
01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:21,150
John C Dvorak: But you want Yes,
the reputation you need. But

1407
01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:23,430
Adam Curry: how is she going to
get out of this though, without?

1408
01:21:24,030 --> 01:21:26,040
John C Dvorak: This is a good
question. But she'll get out of

1409
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,600
it. Somehow they can't continue.

1410
01:21:27,810 --> 01:21:30,900
Adam Curry: Now. I still think
she's going to land a government

1411
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:34,710
job. That's where that's where
you want her NOW. Kirby is

1412
01:21:34,710 --> 01:21:38,400
failing. Let's be honest, Kirby
can't he's got no credibility

1413
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,670
anymore. She would be great. She
could she could actually relate

1414
01:21:41,670 --> 01:21:41,970
better

1415
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:45,420
John C Dvorak: than Kirby
Kirby's Kirby began, I think, in

1416
01:21:45,420 --> 01:21:47,520
the Defense Department, ya know,
he's

1417
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,420
Adam Curry: a rare animal.

1418
01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:50,580
John C Dvorak: We all know what
he is. And he was kind of

1419
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:52,950
working his way up the ladder.
And then he's gotten to the

1420
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:58,440
point where he can't lie very
well. He's no good at it. No. So

1421
01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:01,620
he's fumbles and mumbles and
he's up there and he makes

1422
01:22:01,620 --> 01:22:05,280
stupid says dumb stuff. And he
doesn't look comfortable and he

1423
01:22:05,310 --> 01:22:08,400
doesn't look like he's enjoying
the job. John pair looks like

1424
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,630
she's enjoying the job.

1425
01:22:09,690 --> 01:22:12,930
Adam Curry: But I think she she
needs to go down and she'll be

1426
01:22:12,930 --> 01:22:15,510
out and that would be a great
spot for pixie girl for

1427
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:18,510
Catherine herridge. I think she
would be a perfect next spokes

1428
01:22:18,510 --> 01:22:24,510
all for the President. Yeah,
yeah, I think she she's got the

1429
01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:26,790
John C Dvorak: next president's
going to be Trump unless they

1430
01:22:26,820 --> 01:22:31,290
really do a great number. And I
have a clip from 2004.

1431
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:35,070
Adam Curry: Going back in time
with the sound of the nation.

1432
01:22:36,510 --> 01:22:40,620
John C Dvorak: This is, if you
remember the George Bush, Kerry

1433
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:46,110
election. In 2004, there was a
voting machine scandal. It was

1434
01:22:46,110 --> 01:22:49,410
based on the deep, bold
machines. Diebold here's

1435
01:22:49,410 --> 01:22:53,700
Adam Curry: what I remember. I
remember. Just just when you say

1436
01:22:53,700 --> 01:22:56,520
that the first impression I
remember watching the carry was

1437
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:01,320
carries camp live on television.
And all of a sudden you just see

1438
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:07,230
Kerry's face go wood, and his
numbers just tanked. At that

1439
01:23:07,230 --> 01:23:11,880
very moment, there was like this
huge surge for Bush. That's

1440
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:13,650
That's what I remember. Huge.

1441
01:23:14,730 --> 01:23:18,120
John C Dvorak: Remember, right?
And the thing was at Bush was

1442
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,900
unpopular at the time, because
he had implemented all kinds of

1443
01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:28,260
things like the Patriot Act. And
he's the wars that were he was

1444
01:23:28,260 --> 01:23:31,110
promoting, were going not going
well. And it was just it was

1445
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:32,730
just a waste of money was
terrible

1446
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,540
Adam Curry: big head.

1447
01:23:34,740 --> 01:23:37,380
John C Dvorak: And he was dumb.
He was he was smart when he was

1448
01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:40,950
in Texas, because you can see
the old clips that he was sharp

1449
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:43,890
and then he was became kind of
dopey making you wonder what

1450
01:23:43,890 --> 01:23:48,300
they're dragging these guys
with. And so we have now we have

1451
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:52,470
Jerry Nadler, who I believe is
on the Charlie Rose show in

1452
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:55,260
2004. Talking about voting
machines,

1453
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:57,810
Unknown: if in fact, someone
were deliberately hacking these

1454
01:23:57,810 --> 01:24:00,330
machines, you could steal
millions of votes, and no one

1455
01:24:00,330 --> 01:24:03,540
would know it. And that's why
the methodology is problematic.

1456
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,360
Now there is no evidence that
happened. But you can't prove it

1457
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,240
didn't either. And you can't
prove it won't next time. That's

1458
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,270
why we have to have a paper
trail. We've documented any

1459
01:24:12,270 --> 01:24:15,480
number of people documented a
machine in this county that

1460
01:24:15,480 --> 01:24:19,350
recorded 11,000 extra votes for
Bush and that county that was

1461
01:24:19,740 --> 01:24:25,290
counting carry votes for Bush
people who pushed the touch to

1462
01:24:25,290 --> 01:24:28,080
Karis name would come up Bush
they touched it again and would

1463
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,850
come up push they touched a
third time he finally got it

1464
01:24:29,850 --> 01:24:34,740
right. And all kinds of things
like this one, one machine. And

1465
01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:36,960
when we say my machine, these
are large machines like I have a

1466
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,460
county apparently, after it
reached 3000 votes total every

1467
01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:43,710
time you voted for Bush it
subtracted one instead of added

1468
01:24:43,710 --> 01:24:47,550
one we add push carried subtract
one instead of adding one. In

1469
01:24:47,550 --> 01:24:49,650
all these instances were
instances where they were quite

1470
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,450
otherwise they wouldn't have
been reported. They were quite

1471
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,570
presumably corrected. The
question, obviously, is how many

1472
01:24:54,570 --> 01:24:57,690
instances were not caught that
we don't know about? And what if

1473
01:24:57,690 --> 01:25:00,000
any impact did that have on the
election of national president?

1474
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,550
Have been for county
commissioner or congressman, or

1475
01:25:02,550 --> 01:25:07,440
whatever. And it's clear that we
have some of these new

1476
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:11,850
technologies of the electronic
voting, replacing the the Chad's

1477
01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:15,120
and all that which had other
problems. But they're no paper

1478
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,540
trails. And we have all sorts of
testimony before the election

1479
01:25:18,540 --> 01:25:22,260
from electronics experts that,
number one, we've seen a lot of

1480
01:25:22,590 --> 01:25:24,750
what are called Honest glitches
where it just didn't work.

1481
01:25:25,770 --> 01:25:28,950
Adam Curry: Why did you say
honest glitches? Yeah,

1482
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:31,530
Unknown: the money before the
election from electronics

1483
01:25:31,530 --> 01:25:35,430
experts that. Number one, we've
seen a lot of what are called

1484
01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:38,610
Honest glitches where it just
didn't work, right. But also

1485
01:25:38,610 --> 01:25:42,360
that these machines are hackable
that a dishonest employee of the

1486
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,350
vendor, or dishonest employee of
a local board of elections, or

1487
01:25:46,350 --> 01:25:49,320
simply someone who knows
electronics and has a computer

1488
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,460
at home, could hack into these
machines and put in a secret

1489
01:25:53,460 --> 01:25:57,930
instruction to disregard every
20th democratic voter ID 10% of

1490
01:25:57,930 --> 01:26:00,450
the carrier to the bush voter,
whatever, he might not ever know

1491
01:26:00,450 --> 01:26:01,980
it. I

1492
01:26:02,010 --> 01:26:04,890
Adam Curry: would like to point
out that Gillespie County is a

1493
01:26:04,890 --> 01:26:09,540
hand count County in Texas, we
have banned electronic voting

1494
01:26:09,540 --> 01:26:10,140
machines.

1495
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,150
John C Dvorak: Which should be
everywhere. Yeah. Okay. And this

1496
01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:19,050
by the way, we I'm going to re
re mentioned that this is from

1497
01:26:19,050 --> 01:26:23,160
2004. There's no reason that
this hasn't changed at companies

1498
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,460
that may.

1499
01:26:24,300 --> 01:26:28,110
Adam Curry: Why didn't Diebold
Sue Nadler for this for this

1500
01:26:28,110 --> 01:26:29,940
outrageous accusation?

1501
01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:32,190
John C Dvorak: Because now
there's got the net, the deep

1502
01:26:32,190 --> 01:26:36,420
pockets of Fox Oh, okay. So here
we go. And

1503
01:26:36,450 --> 01:26:38,250
Unknown: we had these warnings
before the election, and

1504
01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:41,700
apparently they're correct. And
we have all these questions now.

1505
01:26:41,970 --> 01:26:47,220
And we're seeing instances of,
so far as we know, honest

1506
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:48,360
glitches that we caught

1507
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:52,080
Adam Curry: Hey, dude, this
glitches, that's a bumper

1508
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:52,590
sticker.

1509
01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:54,210
Unknown: But the question
arises, how many didn't we

1510
01:26:54,210 --> 01:26:58,170
catch? And how do you prevent
that? Now, there's legislation

1511
01:26:58,170 --> 01:27:00,360
pending, which I'm co
sponsoring, offered in the house

1512
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,210
by rush halt in the Senate by
Hillary Clinton and others. That

1513
01:27:03,210 --> 01:27:06,750
says, Every electronic machine
should have a paper trail like

1514
01:27:06,750 --> 01:27:10,230
an ATM machine gives you a
receipt, you should when you

1515
01:27:10,230 --> 01:27:14,910
push the carry, let's say you
vote for carry an A for Congress

1516
01:27:14,910 --> 01:27:18,060
and B for the Senate, it should
say carry a and b you see that a

1517
01:27:18,060 --> 01:27:20,730
machine. It should also print
the piece of paper, which you

1518
01:27:20,730 --> 01:27:23,820
see, you look at the piece of
paper, you see, okay, you then

1519
01:27:23,820 --> 01:27:26,100
press submit, it cuts off the
piece of paper drops it into

1520
01:27:26,130 --> 01:27:29,460
into a box. So if anybody raises
questions after the election,

1521
01:27:29,970 --> 01:27:33,330
you can in fact, count the
paper. There was one county

1522
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:38,820
where on some local race or some
referendum, they lost 4500

1523
01:27:38,820 --> 01:27:42,720
votes, machine, hiccup, they
lost it 4500 People didn't have

1524
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,640
their votes counted. And we
don't know if that made a

1525
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,240
difference in that referendum or
local race or whatever. But the

1526
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,810
system is inherently subject to
that kind of thing. So we asked

1527
01:27:51,810 --> 01:27:54,390
for investing Congressman
Conyers, who's the ranking

1528
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:57,660
Democrat on the Judiciary
Committee, and Bob Wexler,

1529
01:27:57,660 --> 01:28:00,840
congressman from California, and
I asked the Government

1530
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,730
Accountability Office, which
used to be known as the

1531
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,970
Government Accounting Office,
which is the nonpartisan

1532
01:28:05,970 --> 01:28:09,270
investigative arm of Congress to
invest in, we asked that they

1533
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:11,400
investigate the efficacy of
voting machines and new

1534
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,310
technologies, how election
officials responded to

1535
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:17,160
difficulties encountered and
what we can do in the future. To

1536
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,860
improve our election systems.
These companies did a tremendous

1537
01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:23,880
sales job after the 2000
election in Florida, where we

1538
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,160
had all those pains and problems
with the Chad's. And everybody

1539
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,530
said, get rid of these punch
card machines find a better way

1540
01:28:28,530 --> 01:28:30,720
to do it, find a better way to
do it, they had these products,

1541
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:33,960
these products weren't really
quite ready. I don't think I

1542
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,970
mean, all these we have all
these professors and these

1543
01:28:35,970 --> 01:28:39,780
computer experts telling us that
the encryption algorithms aren't

1544
01:28:39,780 --> 01:28:43,110
sufficient that the protections
are insufficient, their

1545
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:46,350
proprietary data, so they kept
secret. So we don't really know.

1546
01:28:46,980 --> 01:28:49,020
But they wanted to sell the
machines and they did a

1547
01:28:49,020 --> 01:28:50,910
tremendous sales job. Oh,

1548
01:28:50,910 --> 01:28:54,720
Adam Curry: brother. Okay, well,
now that almost just got

1549
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,480
indigestion from listening to
Nadler for three and a half

1550
01:28:57,480 --> 01:29:01,800
minutes. The 2000 election came
up, I'm going to hit you right

1551
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:07,980
back with another view clip in a
conversation about the Supreme

1552
01:29:07,980 --> 01:29:15,750
Court decision, or schedule to
discuss a decision whether any

1553
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:19,320
president not just President
Trump, but retroactively any

1554
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:25,110
president can be held
accountable for crimes committed

1555
01:29:25,530 --> 01:29:29,820
during a president's
administration. This is this is

1556
01:29:29,820 --> 01:29:33,840
what is coming before the
Supreme Court. The immunity?

1557
01:29:34,290 --> 01:29:38,670
Yes, the evaluation immunity now
and I would just say upfront, I

1558
01:29:38,670 --> 01:29:42,510
think that the what's being
ignored here is there is a

1559
01:29:42,510 --> 01:29:47,700
process if a president commits a
crime or is questioned about it

1560
01:29:47,700 --> 01:29:51,390
has questionable behavior. The
process is impeachment. And

1561
01:29:51,390 --> 01:29:54,810
after the impeachment in in the
house, it goes to the Senate and

1562
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:55,980
they can convict him.

1563
01:29:57,390 --> 01:30:01,530
John C Dvorak: Right? Yes, and
then he can go Oh, two normal

1564
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,780
civil court trials. Right.

1565
01:30:03,810 --> 01:30:06,510
Adam Curry: But so there is a
process if you have a bogus

1566
01:30:06,510 --> 01:30:09,900
president. Yeah, there's a
process, but that is just

1567
01:30:09,900 --> 01:30:14,340
ignored by the women of the
view. And they so what you have,

1568
01:30:14,610 --> 01:30:17,790
I'm going to use the word
positive. It's very interesting

1569
01:30:18,030 --> 01:30:23,460
that if, if they say Trump is
accountable and and does not

1570
01:30:23,460 --> 01:30:29,670
have immunity for his mounting a
insurrection, as when he was

1571
01:30:29,670 --> 01:30:33,030
still president, then we can
arrest Obama for droning

1572
01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:36,540
American citizens. You can do
all kinds of stuff. Yeah, the

1573
01:30:36,540 --> 01:30:39,420
lady from the view. Yes. You're
gonna say, Well, I

1574
01:30:39,420 --> 01:30:43,230
John C Dvorak: was gonna say,
curiously, the bullets out of

1575
01:30:43,230 --> 01:30:47,700
the out of the Justice miles but
I have it turns out that Obama,

1576
01:30:48,030 --> 01:30:52,290
I didn't realize this, but he
not only killed a Locky and a

1577
01:30:52,290 --> 01:30:53,790
lucky kid and

1578
01:30:53,790 --> 01:30:56,670
Adam Curry: his kids 16 year old
we're having. They're having

1579
01:30:56,670 --> 01:30:57,240
coffee.

1580
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:04,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, supposedly.
He said he also in the process,

1581
01:31:04,140 --> 01:31:08,700
killed Samir Khan, who is an
American, US citizen of

1582
01:31:08,730 --> 01:31:13,470
Pakistani heritage, and he also
killed Jude, Mohammed, another

1583
01:31:13,470 --> 01:31:17,490
American, born in Florida,
American citizen. So Obama

1584
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:25,200
murdered three, four people. And
in fact, it said, I'm going to

1585
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,100
read from the CBS, it said we're
after he killed in October

1586
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:36,690
14 2011. In Yemen, he killed the
kid Abdul, in an extra judicial

1587
01:31:36,690 --> 01:31:40,440
killing some US officials called
it a mistake. Even the President

1588
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:44,520
has said in some reports to have
considered it a bad mistake. The

1589
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,550
former White House Press
Secretary Robert Gibbs, and

1590
01:31:47,550 --> 01:31:51,870
remember him stated that his
death was justified.

1591
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,080
Adam Curry: And this was all
death by drone. Right? That's by

1592
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:55,500
drone.

1593
01:31:55,500 --> 01:32:00,750
John C Dvorak: Yeah. They just
murdered these people. And. And

1594
01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:04,710
in his space, he murdered these
people. So the people on the

1595
01:32:04,710 --> 01:32:10,770
view, have to say, on the show
that Obama, which could be

1596
01:32:10,770 --> 01:32:15,180
arrested tomorrow and thrown in
jail for murder, no,

1597
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,970
Adam Curry: they take an
entirely different, unique and

1598
01:32:17,970 --> 01:32:19,680
very interesting approach.

1599
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:23,940
Unknown: Well, Mr. Frame court
won't hear oral arguments until

1600
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:29,760
the end of April. Now, I just,
you know, just look at a

1601
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:33,720
scenario where the Supreme Court
says, Yes, he has that he has

1602
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,750
all those rights. He is immune
from everything. You know, what

1603
01:32:36,750 --> 01:32:44,760
Joe Biden could do since he is
presently president. He could

1604
01:32:45,180 --> 01:32:51,930
throw every Republican in jail.
I mean, he could I mean, this is

1605
01:32:51,930 --> 01:32:59,730
not what this means is this, he
can do anything. Yeah, he could

1606
01:32:59,910 --> 01:33:04,320
dismiss everybody's debt.
There's a whole bunch of great

1607
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,230
stuff that could happen. But
let's really look at what this

1608
01:33:07,230 --> 01:33:07,800
means.

1609
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:12,480
kicking the can down the road,
though. They they're not taking

1610
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:16,050
up this case immediately. What's
their motivation, then? If they

1611
01:33:16,050 --> 01:33:19,650
if we all know that we can't do
what you just said, because of

1612
01:33:19,650 --> 01:33:22,320
the extreme power that a
president would have? What is

1613
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,680
the motivation for not doing it
right away? Unfortunately, some

1614
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,460
people are saying the motivation
is that there are certain

1615
01:33:29,460 --> 01:33:32,010
conservative justices that have
been appointed by Trump, they

1616
01:33:32,010 --> 01:33:36,180
want to help him. And because we
know the end result is if this

1617
01:33:36,210 --> 01:33:42,690
case is not resolved, by the
time of the election, and he God

1618
01:33:42,690 --> 01:33:46,530
forbid, becomes the President of
the United States. The Justice

1619
01:33:46,530 --> 01:33:51,480
Department policy is that you
cannot indict nor put on trial,

1620
01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:57,630
a sitting president. Right. And
so it's out of jail. But it's

1621
01:33:57,630 --> 01:33:59,100
his Get Out of Jail Free card.

1622
01:33:59,130 --> 01:34:03,480
No, no, I'm saying Biden could
this is a slippery slope. It was

1623
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:06,900
it was what's good for the good.
I

1624
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:09,780
also will say is they're
listening to these arguments in

1625
01:34:09,780 --> 01:34:12,570
April, the end of their term is
in June, right? They returned

1626
01:34:12,570 --> 01:34:17,640
again, I believe in October. The
Bush v Gore case happened real

1627
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:18,150
quick.

1628
01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:19,260
Do you remember that?

1629
01:34:20,580 --> 01:34:22,530
How to work real fast that

1630
01:34:22,530 --> 01:34:24,060
was the J democracy died

1631
01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:29,160
Adam Curry: well, what a day,

1632
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:31,620
John C Dvorak: it was did if
that was the day democracy died,

1633
01:34:31,620 --> 01:34:32,820
why are you even doing this
show?

1634
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,810
Adam Curry: So I just like the
the flipping it on its head and

1635
01:34:36,810 --> 01:34:40,260
saying, Well, you know, if if
Trump has immunity, then Joe

1636
01:34:40,260 --> 01:34:45,510
Biden can just get rid of
everybody's debt can throw all

1637
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:50,970
Republicans in jail. This this
program is not good for your

1638
01:34:50,970 --> 01:34:55,020
health. It's hard for me to even
I mean, I can feel the effects

1639
01:34:55,020 --> 01:34:59,160
just playing the clips. This is
really dumbing down the American

1640
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,790
population. And they're popular
that a lot of people watch it.

1641
01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:07,680
John C Dvorak: What is the deal?
What is the deal? The deal is

1642
01:35:07,710 --> 01:35:12,600
with his new hairdo. That
scatters sides are cut off and

1643
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,470
she's got her hair. Way back.
What is this? She's wearing?

1644
01:35:16,470 --> 01:35:22,200
He's got a mullet. Yeah. What is
this? Look? It's cool. Ask Moe,

1645
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,210
he's an expert on hair
hairstyles.

1646
01:35:24,540 --> 01:35:26,550
Adam Curry: We don't touch the
third rail of black woman's

1647
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:33,090
hair, that's very bad rail to
touch. Okay, so here's what

1648
01:35:33,090 --> 01:35:36,840
everyone's talking about online.
It's none of this. None of this.

1649
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:40,470
None of this is being discussed.
Here's what's real. Here's

1650
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:42,930
what's really grabbed
everybody's attention. And I

1651
01:35:42,930 --> 01:35:48,630
have an opinion on it. This guy
named Ian Carroll, who's just a

1652
01:35:48,630 --> 01:35:53,940
dude on x. He's the one that has
the most compelling version of

1653
01:35:53,940 --> 01:35:58,980
it, and his videos are receiving
millions of views on the x. And

1654
01:35:58,980 --> 01:36:01,680
this is about the Diddy lawsuit.
It

1655
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,750
Unknown: just got the Jeffrey
Epstein of the music and

1656
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:06,090
entertainment industry. The new
lawsuit that just dropped

1657
01:36:06,090 --> 01:36:10,230
against Diddy is massive. And it
has photos. It has videos,

1658
01:36:10,260 --> 01:36:13,440
names, names, and there's so
much here that it's never going

1659
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,810
to fit into a single video. So
I'm going to do a quick overview

1660
01:36:15,810 --> 01:36:17,970
in this video. And then I'm
going to do a couple of parts

1661
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,520
breaking down all the different
aspects of what's come out so

1662
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,270
far. We're talking crime scenes,
we're talking photo evidence of

1663
01:36:24,300 --> 01:36:27,540
celebrities like Cuba Gooding
Jr. We're talking record label

1664
01:36:27,540 --> 01:36:30,450
executives. We're talking hidden
cameras in every room in the

1665
01:36:30,450 --> 01:36:34,350
house, getting recordings of
celebrities, executives,

1666
01:36:34,350 --> 01:36:38,220
politicians at parties with
celebrities and underage girls

1667
01:36:38,220 --> 01:36:41,760
with drinks being spiked with
drugs. It goes all the way back

1668
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,450
to the murder of Tupac and baby.
We're talking about the entire

1669
01:36:45,450 --> 01:36:49,680
rap and hip hop industry and the
whole music industry at large.

1670
01:36:49,740 --> 01:36:53,250
So what's happened just now is
that this man Rodney Jones, who

1671
01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:56,820
is a music producer that worked
with Sean Combs, who is Diddy,

1672
01:36:56,850 --> 01:37:00,510
he just filed this lawsuit, and
he didn't just file it against

1673
01:37:00,510 --> 01:37:03,630
did he filed against the
executives at all the companies

1674
01:37:03,630 --> 01:37:07,290
associated and against the
company's like Universal Music

1675
01:37:07,290 --> 01:37:11,040
Group says lawyers claim that he
has secured hundreds of hours of

1676
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,430
footage and audio recordings of
Diddy and his staff and his

1677
01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:18,390
guests engaging in serious
illegal activity. So

1678
01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:22,680
Adam Curry: this is salacious.
Everybody loves it. We got Cuba

1679
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:27,750
Gooding Jr. We've got supposedly
Usher all these people who are

1680
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:32,550
all involved in what the music
industry has known forever to it

1681
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:36,300
because the root of this is
Clive Davis, Clive Davis, who

1682
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:38,580
had certain point came out and
said, Hey, everybody, I'm

1683
01:37:38,580 --> 01:37:43,380
bisexual. Really, Clive, we need
to put CI and all of this

1684
01:37:43,380 --> 01:37:47,880
salaciousness comes through from
from that route of Clive Davis

1685
01:37:48,060 --> 01:37:52,950
and Diddy being gay, please,
this is nothing new. But we now

1686
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:56,310
have all of this evidence and
and they've named all the

1687
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:59,970
executives of the record
companies and the sub labels and

1688
01:37:59,970 --> 01:38:03,690
the sub labels of the sub labels
and the publishing companies. So

1689
01:38:03,690 --> 01:38:08,220
it's going to be it's going to
capture everyone's imagination.

1690
01:38:08,730 --> 01:38:12,570
What this guy is doing I don't
have any further clips is he's

1691
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:21,720
connecting this to the Whitney
Webb reporting on Epstein and J.

1692
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,430
Edgar Hoover, which is specious
at best. As as you and I have

1693
01:38:26,430 --> 01:38:30,030
discussed generally disproven
disproven that you know that

1694
01:38:30,030 --> 01:38:33,390
there's pictures of him in a
dress pictures of him committed

1695
01:38:33,390 --> 01:38:37,650
fellatio that actually is all
fake. There is no picture. And

1696
01:38:37,650 --> 01:38:39,900
by the way, there's more
evidence J. Edgar Hoover was

1697
01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:44,250
blacker than that he was you
know that he was homosexual?

1698
01:38:45,390 --> 01:38:50,250
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And But
what this does is two things.

1699
01:38:50,250 --> 01:38:54,300
One, it distracts from the
actual Epstein case because now

1700
01:38:54,330 --> 01:38:57,630
everyone will be crazy about
this. This is your controlled

1701
01:38:57,630 --> 01:39:01,350
opportunists that work. And the
second thing it does is it

1702
01:39:01,350 --> 01:39:06,870
distracts from Taylor Swift
being a Satanist. The true and I

1703
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:07,470
was wondering

1704
01:39:07,470 --> 01:39:09,480
John C Dvorak: where you're
gonna go with this because I'm,

1705
01:39:09,630 --> 01:39:15,540
I knew about all this gonna
bring into showbiz stuff because

1706
01:39:15,540 --> 01:39:18,900
you know, Adam, he so wishes he
was in the business. Oh,

1707
01:39:18,900 --> 01:39:24,090
Adam Curry: boy. It was so much
fun. Don't drop the soap in the

1708
01:39:24,090 --> 01:39:28,890
business. Yeah, no, it distracts
from the true evil which is the

1709
01:39:28,890 --> 01:39:31,410
women in show business
particularly in the music

1710
01:39:31,410 --> 01:39:35,040
business, who are Wiccans. They
are witches, they're doing all

1711
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:39,390
kinds of creepy stuff. They're
devil worshippers and, and sadly

1712
01:39:39,390 --> 01:39:43,890
they've they've captured Taylor
Swift as far as I can tell, and

1713
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,320
and so this is probably them.
They're like Hey, Lee

1714
01:39:55,020 --> 01:39:58,680
that's what's going on here. So
Taylor is safe, stay for a

1715
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,830
while, while everyone else
focuses on Diddy and did he is

1716
01:40:01,830 --> 01:40:09,030
going down down down down down
down so you can rest assured

1717
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:12,630
everybody you don't have to do
much else you can just calm down

1718
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:13,650
it's all good that's

1719
01:40:13,650 --> 01:40:16,170
John C Dvorak: good I'm sure
calm down

1720
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:17,760
Adam Curry: this not a

1721
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,850
John C Dvorak: rock and roll pre
show person is going to be more

1722
01:40:20,850 --> 01:40:22,350
than pleased and

1723
01:40:22,350 --> 01:40:25,110
Adam Curry: you're gonna see
Whitney Webb going insane and

1724
01:40:25,110 --> 01:40:28,650
appearing everywhere talking
about how she invented all this

1725
01:40:29,550 --> 01:40:34,830
and it's all the Jewish mafia
that's the Whitney with your

1726
01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:37,470
weight good speaking of
controlled opportunists there's

1727
01:40:37,470 --> 01:40:41,190
there's number one as far as I'm
concerned and be very careful

1728
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,520
John C Dvorak: doing your due
diligence in Chile or wherever

1729
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:44,940
the hell

1730
01:40:45,060 --> 01:40:47,970
Adam Curry: we Chile we have to
be very careful very careful of

1731
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,410
a lot of people out there.

1732
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:52,680
John C Dvorak: Anyway, anyone
with dangerous anyone?

1733
01:40:53,370 --> 01:40:55,410
Adam Curry: Anyone who does
video with their podcasts that

1734
01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:59,880
are dangerous. Yeah. The me
that's a giveaway if you got a

1735
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:03,120
podcast in his video, you're
dangerous. It's just no good.

1736
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:12,750
Except Joe, of course. Something
happened Oh, see, where are you?

1737
01:41:12,750 --> 01:41:15,300
What do you want to do something
big pharma stuff.

1738
01:41:15,930 --> 01:41:18,690
John C Dvorak: I have some CDC
stuff and but I also have a

1739
01:41:18,690 --> 01:41:22,950
three by three did about the
Israeli situation that probably

1740
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:24,990
because we're not going to talk
about it. I don't think except

1741
01:41:24,990 --> 01:41:29,100
for this possibility. We can
jump to that war.

1742
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:31,890
Adam Curry: We've done so much
war.

1743
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:34,500
John C Dvorak: We can skip it
for now.

1744
01:41:34,530 --> 01:41:36,690
Adam Curry: We can I don't want
to skip it. It's probably

1745
01:41:36,690 --> 01:41:41,280
important. But it's the clips
two minutes long, or they also

1746
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:42,450
just get so long.

1747
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:43,950
John C Dvorak: Take a look and
see what you think. Let

1748
01:41:43,950 --> 01:41:46,770
Adam Curry: me see. Let me see
how long we just look at the ABC

1749
01:41:47,580 --> 01:41:51,690
137 It's just well let's let's
do some let's do some big pharma

1750
01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:54,240
stuff. First, let's do your CDC
clips because

1751
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,790
John C Dvorak: of the CDC was
doing with new guidelines new

1752
01:41:57,060 --> 01:42:03,930
CD, this new CDC woman Cindy or
whatever the hell Her name is

1753
01:42:03,930 --> 01:42:09,450
Cohen, Amy, Amy Cohen, Amy, Amy.
And she's just like a kind of a

1754
01:42:09,930 --> 01:42:12,960
girl who couldn't make the
cheerleading team. So she's on

1755
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:19,230
the pom pom squad. That that
that one? That one and so she's

1756
01:42:19,230 --> 01:42:23,340
there trying to answer questions
on PBS. She answers nothing.

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01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,900
She's just a she's a drone
promoting the vaccine. They're

1758
01:42:27,900 --> 01:42:30,600
never going to let up on this.
Heaven forbid.

1759
01:42:32,610 --> 01:42:35,160
Adam Curry: Cute clip. Is that
what you're saying here? Yeah,

1760
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,010
John C Dvorak: new CDC guidance.
COVID PBS,

1761
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,410
Unknown: the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention has

1762
01:42:40,410 --> 01:42:44,010
changed its COVID guidance for
when people need to isolate.

1763
01:42:44,190 --> 01:42:47,370
It's part of the CDC is broader
recommendations on respiratory

1764
01:42:47,370 --> 01:42:50,970
illnesses. The agency now says
people who've tested positive

1765
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:55,200
can return to normal activities
when symptoms are improving. And

1766
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,110
they've been fever free for at
least 24 hours without

1767
01:42:58,110 --> 01:43:01,830
medication. But the CDC also
encourages people with improving

1768
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:05,370
symptoms to take additional
prevention measures like mask

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01:43:05,370 --> 01:43:09,270
wearing and keeping distance in
public. CDC Director Dr. Mandy

1770
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:10,290
Cohen joins me

1771
01:43:10,290 --> 01:43:13,590
Adam Curry: now. Hello, and
welcome, Mandy, not a mandate

1772
01:43:13,710 --> 01:43:16,230
Unknown: to the news. Our thanks
for joining us. Thanks for

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01:43:16,230 --> 01:43:18,960
having me. Great to be here. So
this is the first time you've

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01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:23,040
shifted guidance or isolation
guidance since 2021. That was

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01:43:23,190 --> 01:43:26,940
when it was reduced from 10 days
to five days. Why these changes

1776
01:43:27,090 --> 01:43:30,270
in guidance right now? What's
that based on? Well, we are in a

1777
01:43:30,270 --> 01:43:33,240
different place. And that's
after a lot of hard work to make

1778
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,210
sure that we had the tools to
protect each other against

1779
01:43:37,980 --> 01:43:39,360
Adam Curry: tools tools.

1780
01:43:40,860 --> 01:43:43,680
John C Dvorak: He asked a
specific question. You changed

1781
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,710
it from 10 days to five days to
now you got just a couple of

1782
01:43:46,710 --> 01:43:51,930
days. What is this based on? And
then your answers this question?

1783
01:43:52,260 --> 01:43:55,170
Adam Curry: Well, no, she's on
the pom pom squad, not the not a

1784
01:43:55,170 --> 01:43:56,640
librarian here leadership.

1785
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,640
Unknown: Why these changes in
guidance right now? What's that

1786
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,700
based on? Well, we are in a
different place. And that's

1787
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:03,990
after a lot of hard work.

1788
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,510
Adam Curry: I love that we're in
a different place the science is

1789
01:44:06,510 --> 01:44:08,250
in the science is settled, come
on,

1790
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,010
Unknown: make sure that we had
the tools to protect each other

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01:44:11,010 --> 01:44:14,880
against COVID. What we've been
seeing is lower hospitalizations

1792
01:44:15,060 --> 01:44:19,590
and lower deaths even as we saw
high levels of virus spread. So

1793
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:23,730
this past winter season, we saw
both in our wastewater data and

1794
01:44:23,730 --> 01:44:28,020
others that virus spreading in
our community. But luckily those

1795
01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:32,250
trends in hospitalizations and
death continued to go down. And

1796
01:44:32,250 --> 01:44:36,270
what we were seeing is that
really vaccination is what is

1797
01:44:36,270 --> 01:44:41,220
continuing to protect folks. So
we wanted to unify our guidance

1798
01:44:41,220 --> 01:44:45,570
today not just for COVID, but
across COVID, flu and RSV so

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01:44:45,570 --> 01:44:48,930
folks could have common sense
practical solutions that they

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01:44:48,930 --> 01:44:51,540
could use every day that they
can remember that they can

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01:44:51,540 --> 01:44:54,300
implement across a range of
viruses, you're really

1802
01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:57,840
Adam Curry: going to tell me
that we need for Eclipse to

1803
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:02,820
point out that We've gone from
10 days to five days to just

1804
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:07,770
receive or do whatever you want.
Is that how long it took this

1805
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:08,550
Mandy?

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01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,970
John C Dvorak: Man, the second
Mandy clip is only 59 seconds.

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01:45:13,380 --> 01:45:15,330
Unknown: But there were some
states as you know, like

1808
01:45:15,330 --> 01:45:18,540
California, Oregon, others that
began relaxing their COVID

1809
01:45:18,540 --> 01:45:22,440
isolation guidance as early as
last year counter to your

1810
01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:26,580
guidance at the time is this
sort of the CDC kind of chasing

1811
01:45:26,580 --> 01:45:29,340
catching up to where people have
already been for all know,

1812
01:45:29,370 --> 01:45:32,970
while? Well, we know what we
were looking at this guidance

1813
01:45:32,970 --> 01:45:36,300
last summer and seeing if we can
move in this direction. And then

1814
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:39,870
the virus changed in last
August. And we wanted to make

1815
01:45:39,870 --> 01:45:44,460
sure we were through another
winter season that those trends

1816
01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:48,300
in lower hospitalizations and
lower deaths continued to hold.

1817
01:45:48,300 --> 01:45:51,180
And the good news is they did.
And so we feel comfortable

1818
01:45:51,180 --> 01:45:53,970
moving forward now. But
remember, like always, this

1819
01:45:53,970 --> 01:45:57,600
virus is changing. If anything
changes in terms of our

1820
01:45:57,630 --> 01:46:01,890
effectiveness of vaccines or
treatment. We may be back here

1821
01:46:01,890 --> 01:46:05,280
needing to change guidance, but
we feel comfortable aligning

1822
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:09,150
across COVID flu and RSV for
some simple solutions like

1823
01:46:09,150 --> 01:46:12,540
vaccination, like making sure
you get treatment and staying

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01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:13,380
home when you're sick.

1825
01:46:15,810 --> 01:46:18,780
John C Dvorak: So this, we don't
have to play the rest of it. But

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01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,200
it goes on with this poor woman
on PBS struggling to get

1827
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,210
something out of this some some
actual

1828
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,550
Adam Curry: fact nothing out, it
gets nothing out.

1829
01:46:26,610 --> 01:46:28,800
John C Dvorak: She's just gonna
go on and on by getting

1830
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,130
vaccinated. And that's about it,
that the message is get

1831
01:46:32,130 --> 01:46:35,940
vaccinated, and we're going to
have a new virus keeps changing.

1832
01:46:35,940 --> 01:46:37,650
So there's going to be a new
vaccine, you can play the

1833
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,590
actually the last clip will
summarize everything where she

1834
01:46:40,590 --> 01:46:44,520
says there's new stuff coming
out and get a new vaccine if you

1835
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,190
haven't gotten one already. And
that's basically the message.

1836
01:46:47,340 --> 01:46:49,770
Unknown: To be fair, the vaccine
can obviously prevent serious

1837
01:46:49,770 --> 01:46:52,890
illness, but it doesn't prevent
spread of COVID Will people

1838
01:46:52,890 --> 01:46:56,880
isolating for a shorter amount
of time potentially add to the

1839
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,230
spread of the virus? Oh

1840
01:46:58,230 --> 01:47:02,670
Adam Curry: man do they hear
themselves at please. If you if

1841
01:47:02,670 --> 01:47:05,400
you're within the sound of my
voice, a vaccine that doesn't

1842
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,070
prevent spread and doesn't
prevent you getting it is not a

1843
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:09,240
vaccine, it's not a

1844
01:47:09,690 --> 01:47:11,760
John C Dvorak: raka shit is what
it is. Well, the

1845
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:14,220
Unknown: good news is when you
get vaccinated, right, you are

1846
01:47:14,220 --> 01:47:17,490
both less likely to go into the
hospital, but you're also less

1847
01:47:17,490 --> 01:47:21,150
likely to get long COVID. And
you are less likely to get this

1848
01:47:21,150 --> 01:47:25,410
virus overall, right. So less
virus spreading means that we

1849
01:47:25,410 --> 01:47:28,710
are protecting others. And now
we want we're protecting others

1850
01:47:28,740 --> 01:47:33,720
plenty to give simple, clear
kinds of guidance so that folks

1851
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,930
can remember them. That can be
really actionable. Because if

1852
01:47:36,930 --> 01:47:39,780
more people are using the
guidance, we think that's going

1853
01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:43,290
to benefit everyone. And look,
the folks who are vulnerable.

1854
01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:48,300
They were top of mind. For us at
CDC, as we were thinking about

1855
01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:50,820
this guidance, we all know
someone who's at higher risk

1856
01:47:50,940 --> 01:47:55,410
over 65 are immunocompromised, I
have them in my own family. So

1857
01:47:55,410 --> 01:47:59,130
we were thinking about them as
we did this guidance, we think

1858
01:47:59,130 --> 01:48:01,980
we found the balance to
protecting the most vulnerable

1859
01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:06,510
and having this clear and simple
way for most folks to protect

1860
01:48:06,510 --> 01:48:09,960
themselves. You also said this
week that Americans 65 and older

1861
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:13,470
should get an additional dose of
that latest COVID vaccine this

1862
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,830
spring. That relaxing the
guidance. At the same time.

1863
01:48:16,830 --> 01:48:19,830
You're asking people to go and
get another booster sends

1864
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:20,280
conflicting

1865
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,370
Adam Curry: messages. No, no, we
just want to kill old people.

1866
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,520
Unknown: No. And in fact, our
guidance today the very first

1867
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:30,060
core strategy that we want to
emphasize to folks is about

1868
01:48:30,060 --> 01:48:34,200
being up to date on your vaccine
vaccines is what we are

1869
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:38,280
continuing to see protect folks
here. So we want to make sure

1870
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,610
folks are getting those updated
vaccines. And I want to preview

1871
01:48:41,610 --> 01:48:45,900
for folks that we know this
COVID virus continues to change

1872
01:48:46,140 --> 01:48:50,040
and we need to stay ahead of it.
And we've already started the

1873
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:56,400
process CDC and FDA to update
the COVID vaccine for later this

1874
01:48:56,400 --> 01:49:00,090
year. So right now folks should
start planning for this fall to

1875
01:49:00,090 --> 01:49:03,900
get both an updated COVID
vaccine and an updated flu shot.

1876
01:49:03,930 --> 01:49:04,170
What

1877
01:49:04,170 --> 01:49:06,300
Adam Curry: does that mean?
Start planning that's it. Put it

1878
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:09,840
in my calendar. Do I have to
save for it? Do I have to alert

1879
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:13,260
the neighbors wake the children?
Let's plan for it.

1880
01:49:13,530 --> 01:49:15,180
John C Dvorak: You got to start
planning for fall.

1881
01:49:15,870 --> 01:49:18,810
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, this is
still on deck

1882
01:49:18,900 --> 01:49:22,350
Unknown: this morning friends
family and fans are remembering

1883
01:49:22,350 --> 01:49:28,410
Craig row. A former star
linebacker for the University of

1884
01:49:28,410 --> 01:49:31,560
Michigan losing his battle with
colon cancer

1885
01:49:31,590 --> 01:49:35,400
at Michigan has forever been
defined by Guy stepping up every

1886
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:36,180
year. He

1887
01:49:36,180 --> 01:49:40,470
was just 33 row was diagnosed
with stage four colon cancer

1888
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:44,910
last year. His death part of a
troubling trend colon cancer

1889
01:49:44,910 --> 01:49:48,960
another deadliest cancer for men
under age 50 And the second

1890
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,980
deadliest cancer for women under
50. Doctors say obesity and

1891
01:49:52,980 --> 01:49:54,810
lifestyle can play a role.

1892
01:49:54,810 --> 01:49:57,780
What we're concerned about
clearly are lifestyle food or

1893
01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:01,380
environmental exposures that may
be the err, but it's hard to

1894
01:50:01,380 --> 01:50:05,130
know what we do know is this
that for people under the age of

1895
01:50:05,130 --> 01:50:08,340
50 diagnosed with colon cancer,
about a third of them have some

1896
01:50:08,340 --> 01:50:12,540
remarkable family history that
might have given us a clue as to

1897
01:50:12,540 --> 01:50:13,950
that having occurred.

1898
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:16,980
That's why doctors say it's so
important to get screened

1899
01:50:17,010 --> 01:50:20,370
beginning at age 45. But
Americans are not getting the

1900
01:50:20,370 --> 01:50:25,290
message 80% of people ages 45 to
50 are not getting screened.

1901
01:50:25,530 --> 01:50:27,780
Many of them dreading a
colonoscopy,

1902
01:50:27,810 --> 01:50:32,070
there are options to do it in
your own home. Within sales jobs

1903
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:35,310
Adam Curry: sales job there it
is sales job for the cola guard

1904
01:50:35,310 --> 01:50:37,320
for Yeah, for pooping the bag
reading

1905
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:38,250
Unknown: a colonoscopy,

1906
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,270
there are options to do it in
your own home within just a few

1907
01:50:42,270 --> 01:50:46,170
minutes, and with just as much
accuracy as a colonoscopy, those

1908
01:50:46,170 --> 01:50:46,740
with a family

1909
01:50:46,740 --> 01:50:50,130
Adam Curry: history of which is
a lie. It's a lie because they

1910
01:50:50,130 --> 01:50:54,540
say this, they say in the ad and
the real ad said this paid

1911
01:50:54,540 --> 01:50:57,870
promotion they say could be
false positive could be false

1912
01:50:57,870 --> 01:51:00,090
negative, but you know, pooping
the bag people just poop in a

1913
01:51:00,090 --> 01:51:01,560
bag. It's good. You could do it
a whole privates.

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01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,950
John C Dvorak: delivered to your
front door, open the bag. See,

1915
01:51:05,130 --> 01:51:06,030
Unknown: as a colonoscopy,

1916
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:09,120
those with a family history of
cancer or who experienced

1917
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,730
symptoms should talk to their
doctor about getting screened

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01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,780
earlier. Symptoms include a
change in bowel habits, rectal

1919
01:51:15,780 --> 01:51:19,500
bleeding, abdominal discomfort,
fatigue and unexplained weight

1920
01:51:19,500 --> 01:51:23,850
loss. Doctors say colorectal
cancer can develop silently. So

1921
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:27,810
early detection is key. And if
caught early, the survival rate

1922
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,460
is more than 90%.

1923
01:51:30,060 --> 01:51:34,770
Adam Curry: So this is just
horrible. The medical community

1924
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:39,180
still does not understand how,
where this troubling trend comes

1925
01:51:39,180 --> 01:51:42,900
from. We can't figure it out. It
could be lifestyle, it could be

1926
01:51:42,900 --> 01:51:46,260
your die. Oh, well, if it's your
diet, then let's just go to the

1927
01:51:46,260 --> 01:51:47,580
ozempic, shall we? By the

1928
01:51:47,580 --> 01:51:52,020
Unknown: beginning of 2023. One
Medicine was on everyone's lips.

1929
01:51:53,370 --> 01:51:54,180
Adam Curry: Oh,

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01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:59,670
Unknown: three a diabetes drug.
With an astonishing side effect.

1931
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,860
Adults lost up to 14 pounds.
Since then, there's been a

1932
01:52:04,860 --> 01:52:08,760
constant drumbeat in the news
ozempic who's affected as Empik

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01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:12,030
and frenzied buzz on social
media. Once you hit two clicks,

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01:52:12,060 --> 01:52:15,930
you are good to go. And it's not
just ozempic there's Manjaro for

1935
01:52:15,930 --> 01:52:20,130
diabetes, and with govi and zap
bound to treat obesity, all

1936
01:52:20,130 --> 01:52:24,060
promoting significant weight
loss. It's estimated up to 5

1937
01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:27,360
million Americans are taking
them a staggering figure

1938
01:52:27,420 --> 01:52:30,120
considering the weekly
injections need refrigeration,

1939
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,460
and possibly a lifetime
commitment.

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01:52:32,670 --> 01:52:35,220
Adam Curry: This is a special
that ran on NBC called the Big

1941
01:52:35,220 --> 01:52:40,200
Shot. And there's some very
troubling trends in the

1942
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:46,470
promotion of the GLP. One
products. The what we'll get to

1943
01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:52,950
in a moment is the incessant
discrediting of compounded forms

1944
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:55,980
of this, because you know, you
have to have the brand name

1945
01:52:55,980 --> 01:53:03,150
otherwise, what are you doing?
And I think that even though you

1946
01:53:03,150 --> 01:53:07,440
know, this is part promotion and
part discredit tation. But for

1947
01:53:07,620 --> 01:53:12,540
Under no circumstances, should
social media influencers be

1948
01:53:12,540 --> 01:53:18,510
allowed to hock drugs online? I
mean, that's there needs to be

1949
01:53:18,510 --> 01:53:22,650
some kind of kibosh on this
troubling trend, and tick

1950
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:25,140
Unknown: tock, it's on social
media, it's on Facebook, it's on

1951
01:53:25,140 --> 01:53:29,190
TV, etc. everybody around you is
taking it. And then the rise of

1952
01:53:29,190 --> 01:53:31,590
telehealth. Yeah, it's like all
these things are feeding into

1953
01:53:31,590 --> 01:53:32,070
this.

1954
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:34,680
I think it's unique, so
lucrative market and it's

1955
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,020
growing very quickly. We've seen
that with other categories of

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01:53:37,020 --> 01:53:40,290
drugs. What's different now is
you have telehealth, you know,

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01:53:40,290 --> 01:53:43,680
you you have a cash pay market.
And you have the social media,

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01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:45,810
which has created sort of a
cultural phenomenon around these

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01:53:45,810 --> 01:53:48,450
drugs. And it's harder for a
regulatory process to keep up

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01:53:48,450 --> 01:53:49,980
with that. Our team

1961
01:53:49,980 --> 01:53:53,700
wanted to see how easy it would
be to get compounded semaglutide

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01:53:53,820 --> 01:53:57,180
So we put it to the test, we
picked telehealth sites that

1963
01:53:57,180 --> 01:54:01,140
didn't require any bloodwork. We
use our real names and real body

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01:54:01,140 --> 01:54:05,460
stats. By these metrics. None of
us should have qualified for GLP

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01:54:05,460 --> 01:54:10,050
one medications on one site, all
I had to do was input some basic

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01:54:10,050 --> 01:54:14,730
info, like my height, weight and
set up a call with a doctor. No,

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01:54:14,730 --> 01:54:18,480
I've never tried this before.
After a seven minute consult.

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01:54:18,630 --> 01:54:21,630
I'm qualified. Okay, five
questions and that's it. I was

1969
01:54:21,630 --> 01:54:25,650
approved, right? Think of the
eight sites we reached out to to

1970
01:54:25,650 --> 01:54:29,250
approved us to take compounded
semaglutide None of us saw a

1971
01:54:29,250 --> 01:54:33,510
doctor in person. Compounded
semaglutide is currently allowed

1972
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:36,930
by the FDA, but it's not
approved. And that's an

1973
01:54:36,930 --> 01:54:40,350
important difference. There are
dozens of pharmacies across the

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01:54:40,350 --> 01:54:44,040
country mixing their own
versions, sometimes adding other

1975
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,850
ingredients like B 12. And while
some of the facilities are

1976
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inspected by the FDA, that drugs
they make or not. So

1977
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Adam Curry: this is part because
of course the you what you want

1978
01:54:55,380 --> 01:54:57,900
is a telehealth provider. You
already heard that it's very

1979
01:54:57,900 --> 01:55:02,070
easy. Just five questions. Law
Whatever be they'll prescribe it

1980
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:05,910
to you, but don't get the
compounded. No, no, make sure

1981
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:09,540
you have an approved telehealth
provider who gives you the good

1982
01:55:09,540 --> 01:55:11,880
stuff. You know the real stuff,
the stuff that has the brand

1983
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:15,450
name on it, and there's
something up with Oprah and her

1984
01:55:15,450 --> 01:55:19,470
leaving weightwatchers after
they acquired a telehealth

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01:55:19,470 --> 01:55:22,110
provider, I have two clips.
Let's see if we can figure it

1986
01:55:22,110 --> 01:55:24,840
Unknown: out. shares of the
company that used to be known as

1987
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:28,560
weightwatchers lost 18% of their
value yesterday after a major

1988
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,650
announcement. Oprah Winfrey has
decided to leave its board of

1989
01:55:31,650 --> 01:55:34,980
directors ending her long term
relationship with the company

1990
01:55:35,010 --> 01:55:38,010
link Yano has warned the
potential impact on the famous

1991
01:55:38,010 --> 01:55:43,500
brand. Let's let 2016 be the
year my best buddies

1992
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,920
for nearly a decade. Oprah
Winfrey has been the face of

1993
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:51,270
weightwatchers joining the board
in 2015 when she acquired a 10%

1994
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:54,690
stake in the company. But
Wednesday the company announced

1995
01:55:54,810 --> 01:55:58,470
the media mogul was stepping
down. Despite leaving the board.

1996
01:55:58,470 --> 01:56:01,650
Winfrey said in his statement, I
have been a longtime supporter

1997
01:56:01,650 --> 01:56:05,070
of this worthy organization. And
I am proud to continue my

1998
01:56:05,070 --> 01:56:08,490
support. He in December, Winfrey
revealed to People Magazine that

1999
01:56:08,490 --> 01:56:12,210
she uses a weight loss drug as a
maintenance tool. And she was

2000
01:56:12,210 --> 01:56:16,260
quote done with a shaming you
under Dr. Melanie J sat on a

2001
01:56:16,260 --> 01:56:18,930
panel with Winfree in fall of
2023.

2002
01:56:19,170 --> 01:56:22,560
We talked about how it's not the
easy way out you still have to

2003
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,460
manage the medications long
term, you still have to make

2004
01:56:26,460 --> 01:56:27,990
changes to your lifestyle.

2005
01:56:28,110 --> 01:56:30,960
Although Winfrey hasn't said
which medication she's taking

2006
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,530
drugs like ozempic and would go
v have soared in popularity in

2007
01:56:34,530 --> 01:56:38,010
recent years. In fact, Weight
Watchers recently launched a

2008
01:56:38,010 --> 01:56:41,790
program geared toward people who
use such weight loss drugs,

2009
01:56:41,820 --> 01:56:45,630
you don't necessarily have to
work as much on hunger cues,

2010
01:56:45,690 --> 01:56:48,300
because the medications help
with those but you do have to

2011
01:56:48,300 --> 01:56:50,250
make sure you're getting enough
protein and enough fruits and

2012
01:56:50,250 --> 01:56:53,190
vegetables. And so I think
people still need a lot of

2013
01:56:53,190 --> 01:56:53,820
support to

2014
01:56:53,820 --> 01:56:57,150
do that Winfrey herself said in
a statement, she looks forward

2015
01:56:57,150 --> 01:57:00,090
to continuing to advise and
collaborate with Weight

2016
01:57:00,090 --> 01:57:03,420
Watchers. She also plans to
donate her weightwatchers stock

2017
01:57:03,420 --> 01:57:06,180
to the National Museum of
African American History and

2018
01:57:06,180 --> 01:57:10,500
Culture. In Part Weight Watchers
said to eliminate any perceived

2019
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:13,950
conflict of interest around her
taking weight loss medication.

2020
01:57:14,220 --> 01:57:18,270
Adam Curry: Okay, before I get
to Gail, who was her fanny pack

2021
01:57:18,270 --> 01:57:26,010
wearing camping buddy. The She
donated her shares to the

2022
01:57:27,090 --> 01:57:29,910
National Museum of African
American History and Culture to

2023
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:33,900
avoid any conflict of interest.
Well, I find that odd because

2024
01:57:33,900 --> 01:57:38,700
she is on the museum council. So
that seems like a conflict of

2025
01:57:38,700 --> 01:57:41,580
interest right there. She just
gave it to something that she's

2026
01:57:41,580 --> 01:57:46,650
on the on the board of the
Council, which is also if you

2027
01:57:46,650 --> 01:57:49,590
donate it, I'm sure that's a tax
deduction.

2028
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:50,580
John C Dvorak: Well, a big one.

2029
01:57:50,610 --> 01:57:53,460
Adam Curry: This council is
interesting. Our buddy Ted

2030
01:57:53,460 --> 01:57:58,110
leonsis is on the council.
That's interesting. Let's see

2031
01:57:58,110 --> 01:58:03,030
who else is on here. We have the
Mellon Foundation Walgreens

2032
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:08,280
boots Alliance, we've got Laura
Bush, oh, she's dead. Oh, well.

2033
01:58:09,420 --> 01:58:15,060
We have no, I'm just kidding.
Different bushes dead. We got

2034
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:19,950
the CEO of Merck, former
chairman and CEO of Merck. We've

2035
01:58:19,950 --> 01:58:24,270
got some bankers. I'm president
of Rutgers University. This is a

2036
01:58:24,270 --> 01:58:29,550
huge drinking club. Yeah, some
army people in there the Ford

2037
01:58:29,550 --> 01:58:33,480
Foundation. So yeah, there's
nothing going on there. Let's

2038
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,180
see what Gail has to say about
this. Yeah,

2039
01:58:36,210 --> 01:58:38,760
Unknown: I've heard from
reliable sources. And Oprah has

2040
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:41,070
big plans covering viable
sources.

2041
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:43,620
Adam Curry: You mean, you're
you're passing on what Oprah

2042
01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:45,150
wants everybody to know.

2043
01:58:45,180 --> 01:58:48,090
Unknown: Yeah, I've heard from
reliable sources. And Oprah has

2044
01:58:48,090 --> 01:58:51,840
big plans coming up. And I think
when she donated her stocks, to

2045
01:58:51,870 --> 01:58:52,260
which people

2046
01:58:52,260 --> 01:58:54,540
don't do by the way, people
don't never walk away with the

2047
01:58:54,540 --> 01:58:56,250
stock, your money, like

2048
01:58:56,250 --> 01:58:58,980
$12 million, that she didn't
have to do, right, she didn't

2049
01:58:58,980 --> 01:59:00,000
have to do because she could
have

2050
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,180
John C Dvorak: a tax liability
and she wanted to reduce it.

2051
01:59:03,180 --> 01:59:04,170
It's no big deal,

2052
01:59:04,230 --> 01:59:06,390
Unknown: and then still kept the
money. But she wanted to

2053
01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:10,440
eliminate any any perception
that she has. Now, whatever her

2054
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,060
big announcement is, ah,

2055
01:59:12,060 --> 01:59:15,120
Adam Curry: here it is. You see,
she's up to something she wanted

2056
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:19,740
to eliminate any perception. So
it's it's been good $12 million

2057
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:24,420
in tax benefit, whatever, any
perception for what she's about

2058
01:59:24,420 --> 01:59:27,840
to announce something big is
coming from Oprah

2059
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:31,110
Unknown: that she wanted to
eliminate any any perception

2060
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,930
that she has now whatever her
big announcement that she's

2061
01:59:33,930 --> 01:59:36,750
going to make, I'm thinking very
soon. Yeah, she didn't want

2062
01:59:36,750 --> 01:59:39,480
anybody to think that she's
doing it because it's a money

2063
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:45,210
grab, right? Yeah. And even you
gotta give him sure about that

2064
01:59:45,210 --> 01:59:45,480
because

2065
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:46,170
it'd be my way

2066
01:59:48,780 --> 01:59:49,980
but I say this all the time.

2067
01:59:50,490 --> 01:59:53,820
Adam Curry: The legal focus on
the stock not on the big

2068
01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:56,010
announcement yet not on the
money grab

2069
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:58,620
Unknown: the right thing, even
when no one is watching. Yeah,

2070
01:59:58,650 --> 02:00:00,870
and I tell this story, we
weren't traveling and you know,

2071
02:00:00,870 --> 02:00:04,650
you can't have more than x
$1,000 in cash. She had $10,000

2072
02:00:04,650 --> 02:00:09,360
in cash on her as one does. And
as one does the customs people

2073
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,850
came on I said, Well, you know,
what does she does

2074
02:00:11,850 --> 02:00:14,220
Adam Curry: as one does she
attempt? By the way, that's a

2075
02:00:14,250 --> 02:00:18,060
long standing rule. If you have
more than $10,000, I think, is

2076
02:00:18,060 --> 02:00:23,760
it 10,000 Or more than 10,000? I
believe it's 10,000. Or more

2077
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:25,740
than you have to declare that
you have to say, Yeah, I'm

2078
02:00:25,740 --> 02:00:29,550
trying oh my god, I got 10 A cut
in geez, man. And we did he, she

2079
02:00:29,550 --> 02:00:29,700
had

2080
02:00:29,700 --> 02:00:36,030
Unknown: $10,000 in cash on her
as one does. And she does and

2081
02:00:36,030 --> 02:00:39,270
when I said well, you can just
give me some give Andre, some

2082
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:41,280
you know, her inner circle, and
we'll give it back to you

2083
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,590
because I don't believe in
paying for your own money. Yeah,

2084
02:00:43,620 --> 02:00:46,200
I said no one will know she'll
goes, she said, but I'll know.

2085
02:00:47,010 --> 02:00:47,340
She's,

2086
02:00:48,450 --> 02:00:50,760
Adam Curry: she's honest, this
is this is Gail, letting you

2087
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:54,690
know, that whatever, Oprah's got
coming next. She's honest. It's

2088
02:00:54,690 --> 02:00:57,840
not a money grab. It's not a
conflict of interest. She's

2089
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:01,200
coming in with something big.
It's not a money grab. It's not

2090
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,660
she's honest. She reports her
money or

2091
02:01:03,660 --> 02:01:06,750
Unknown: that? Yes, I have
$10,000. I declared it, of

2092
02:01:06,750 --> 02:01:09,390
course. And I just and I am a
law abiding citizen, I would

2093
02:01:09,390 --> 02:01:13,170
like to say but it just, it just
strikes me that even when no one

2094
02:01:13,170 --> 02:01:16,620
is watching, she does, right. So
once again, to me, this is

2095
02:01:16,620 --> 02:01:20,670
evidence for that for the
museum. Of

2096
02:01:20,670 --> 02:01:23,340
Adam Curry: course, no, this is
evidence that something is

2097
02:01:23,340 --> 02:01:28,320
coming that is completely off
the charts. When it comes to

2098
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:31,080
conflict of interest, and she's
she's going to do something with

2099
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:36,180
some weight loss drug. And it's
big. It's big. And just so you

2100
02:01:36,180 --> 02:01:42,720
know, Oprah's honest, she is
honest. Never doubt her honesty.

2101
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,650
John C Dvorak: Oh, you have
nothing to predict. I do want to

2102
02:01:46,650 --> 02:01:49,350
say something about the first
clip you played, which was the

2103
02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:53,760
little bitty mention of the fact
that if you start up on ozempic

2104
02:01:54,630 --> 02:01:57,720
You have to take it for the rest
of your life.

2105
02:01:57,810 --> 02:02:01,680
Unknown: It's just to be on it
for your entire life. They

2106
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:03,450
prescribe it with that in mind

2107
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:08,610
for faith and and our parents.
They were worth a shot. Where do

2108
02:02:08,610 --> 02:02:09,450
you give yourself I give

2109
02:02:09,450 --> 02:02:14,400
myself the shot in my stomach. I
don't even like to hear the

2110
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,940
clip. It's done. Well, you just
tell me what you're on and how

2111
02:02:17,940 --> 02:02:18,780
long you've been on.

2112
02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:25,260
I've been on Manjaro since May
ozempic. Since July, whatever

2113
02:02:25,260 --> 02:02:30,180
she knows me. He's been on he's
no he switches. He goes between

2114
02:02:30,180 --> 02:02:32,250
Manjaro and Fitch.

2115
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:36,300
They're all in a class of drugs
called GLP. One receptor

2116
02:02:36,300 --> 02:02:37,050
agonists.

2117
02:02:37,710 --> 02:02:41,610
Adam Curry: You can switch it's
all good. What you never hear is

2118
02:02:41,790 --> 02:02:45,960
you've got to stop eating the
crap that you're eating. Please

2119
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:49,110
stop eating crap. They never
mentioned that. Maybe that'll be

2120
02:02:49,110 --> 02:02:54,180
Oprah's next big thing. Here's a
weight loss drug but stop eating

2121
02:02:54,180 --> 02:02:56,760
crap. By the way we got I do

2122
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,040
John C Dvorak: have a
prediction. Okay, bottles are

2123
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:02,340
opening up. It's a chain of
hamburger stands.

2124
02:03:03,660 --> 02:03:06,990
Adam Curry: It's as good as any.
We got a lot of notes from

2125
02:03:06,990 --> 02:03:12,450
people about the antidepressant
off label prescription of SSRIs

2126
02:03:12,450 --> 02:03:18,180
and antidepressants. Yes, we
did. I have I can share a couple

2127
02:03:18,180 --> 02:03:24,660
of them briefly. All anonymous
Of course your comment about

2128
02:03:24,660 --> 02:03:28,080
antidepressants being prescribed
for other uses amongst youth at

2129
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,390
32 which I don't know if it's
still count as youth while you

2130
02:03:30,390 --> 02:03:32,700
do to me. In January I was
prescribed with an

2131
02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:38,220
antidepressant me tripped Alene
along with a non steroidal anti

2132
02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:41,010
inflammatory and a muscle
relaxant by a physician at the

2133
02:03:41,010 --> 02:03:44,850
Clinic at the University where
I'm doing my PhD. I was

2134
02:03:44,850 --> 02:03:48,870
scandalized when I learned that
amitriptyline is an

2135
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:51,090
antidepressant and that the
physician prescribed it to me

2136
02:03:51,090 --> 02:03:54,240
without even telling me it was
antidepressant. Almost took it

2137
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:58,050
without looking it up. Thank God
for your show. You're welcome.

2138
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:03,270
Here's another one. Yes, some
are used for pain management I

2139
02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:06,540
used I used one for a short time
not knowing it was an

2140
02:04:06,540 --> 02:04:10,170
antidepressant. My wife said I
was unbearable to be around

2141
02:04:10,170 --> 02:04:15,180
because it made me irrational at
times. I quit it quickly. Then

2142
02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:19,050
we have a nurse boots on the
ground. I've been a psychiatric

2143
02:04:19,050 --> 02:04:24,060
nurse for 17 years, we have no
reason to doubt that peros

2144
02:04:24,060 --> 02:04:29,790
zechstein cerros that and flu
exit team Prozac. We're famous

2145
02:04:29,790 --> 02:04:32,520
for igniting impulsive
conditions when people started

2146
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:36,210
killing others or themselves.
I've seen a boy who killed his

2147
02:04:36,210 --> 02:04:39,120
disabled brother because he
couldn't control himself. I've

2148
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:41,820
seen a girl who he would have to
watch constantly because

2149
02:04:41,820 --> 02:04:45,060
otherwise she would kill
herself. This is a known side

2150
02:04:45,060 --> 02:04:48,660
effect. It is only in the first
three weeks but it is legal.

2151
02:04:50,670 --> 02:04:54,510
About that. This is all known
it's all known. Yeah,

2152
02:04:54,510 --> 02:04:56,580
John C Dvorak: it also makes
your vote Democrat does you know

2153
02:04:56,580 --> 02:04:58,710
that part. You mentioned we
mentioned that

2154
02:05:00,780 --> 02:05:04,620
Adam Curry: I think yes, I think
that was the My wife said I was

2155
02:05:04,620 --> 02:05:06,870
unbearable and irrational I
think that was

2156
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:14,880
oh, we laugh but it's really
quite sad.

2157
02:05:15,210 --> 02:05:18,450
John C Dvorak: It really is sad
but we do laugh. We

2158
02:05:18,450 --> 02:05:20,430
Adam Curry: have to laugh about
it. I mean if you can't laugh

2159
02:05:20,430 --> 02:05:24,030
about oh, we finally got the
clip from although it's not that

2160
02:05:24,030 --> 02:05:27,210
spectacular from the Law and
Order Vax party

2161
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:31,110
John C Dvorak: from at least I
would count six people yes six

2162
02:05:31,110 --> 02:05:34,410
Adam Curry: or seven people and
hit 10 seconds is the only party

2163
02:05:34,410 --> 02:05:37,860
says it's a party there are
people masks and people not

2164
02:05:37,860 --> 02:05:40,680
masking. There's a dude walking
around with a syringe and here

2165
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:41,100
we go.

2166
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,200
John C Dvorak: So what are you
into these days rich? And don't

2167
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:50,160
say plastics, plastics, sir. Are
you ready for your injection?

2168
02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:52,620
Adam Curry: There you go. Are
you ready for your injection

2169
02:05:52,620 --> 02:05:56,850
sir? It was a little little
anticlimactic. It

2170
02:05:56,850 --> 02:06:00,660
John C Dvorak: was it was not
good. You had the guts to do

2171
02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:02,040
that. It was anticlimactic.

2172
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,470
Adam Curry: But what it is is
what it is.

2173
02:06:05,610 --> 02:06:09,240
John C Dvorak: I have an an
apple bomb clip. She

2174
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,630
Adam Curry: just wrote another
article in The Atlantic I saw.

2175
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:15,870
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Well,
she's a great staffer there now.

2176
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:20,610
Adam Curry: Oh, well, she's a
super elite. She She travels in

2177
02:06:20,610 --> 02:06:22,020
all the circles of spook

2178
02:06:22,410 --> 02:06:25,890
Unknown: and Applebaum writer
for The Atlantic had this to say

2179
02:06:25,890 --> 02:06:31,050
about Donald Trump's strange
acquiescence to Russia. Listen

2180
02:06:31,050 --> 02:06:33,690
to this, and then let's talk
about it. Trump

2181
02:06:33,690 --> 02:06:35,730
has a lot of motives here. He

2182
02:06:35,730 --> 02:06:39,030
keeps very quiet about Russia
and very quiet about Ukraine. He

2183
02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:42,600
knows that Russia is unpopular,
and rightly so given the scenes

2184
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:45,840
that we've just seen. He knows
that Ukraine is still popular

2185
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,630
polling shows Ukraine is popular
in the United States, the cause

2186
02:06:48,630 --> 02:06:52,560
of helping Ukraine is supported
by most Americans. There's a

2187
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:55,110
majority in Congress for
supporting Ukraine, the White

2188
02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:58,950
House supports Ukraine. And yet
he has ulterior motives. And,

2189
02:06:58,980 --> 02:07:03,930
you know, we can, you know, I
hear versions of them some to do

2190
02:07:03,930 --> 02:07:07,320
with oil, some to do with
trading with Russia. Some may be

2191
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:10,680
personal, maybe he thinks Putin
will help him again, in his

2192
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:11,730
election campaign.

2193
02:07:14,220 --> 02:07:17,430
But the point is, we have a
leader of the United States

2194
02:07:17,670 --> 02:07:21,570
whose loyalties are not to the
United States. They're not to

2195
02:07:21,780 --> 02:07:24,930
American national interests.
They're not to America and

2196
02:07:25,290 --> 02:07:26,730
America's alliances,

2197
02:07:26,940 --> 02:07:31,860
defending Russia, instead of
America's interests, and our

2198
02:07:31,860 --> 02:07:35,520
allies, or our interest should
be automatically disqualifying,

2199
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:39,690
but for some reason, in this
current Republican Party, and in

2200
02:07:39,690 --> 02:07:43,680
this political environment, it's
not even over it's not over not

2201
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:49,230
even just overlooked. It's
embraced. And so we really have

2202
02:07:49,230 --> 02:07:54,780
to do our part, this election
cycle to make sure that someone

2203
02:07:54,780 --> 02:07:59,580
like Trump who has proven to be
a traitor not only to our

2204
02:08:00,180 --> 02:08:06,330
country but to our democracy and
now to our allies cannot win in

2205
02:08:06,330 --> 02:08:06,930
November

2206
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,510
blue and you don't know where
this thing news Why don't you

2207
02:08:12,510 --> 02:08:14,220
get your get fix?

2208
02:08:16,290 --> 02:08:17,910
Adam Curry: That's right,
everybody. We can play all the

2209
02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:21,780
old jingles. I'm happy about
that. Well, there's one other

2210
02:08:21,780 --> 02:08:25,200
presidential candidate who needs
to be discussed briefly. Bobby

2211
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:29,640
the OP. Now is he on the ballot
in any I know he's on the ballot

2212
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:34,830
in Utah can he can people keep
asking me can I vote for him? I

2213
02:08:34,830 --> 02:08:37,350
John C Dvorak: think in deal in
the presidential election, I

2214
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:39,180
think he'll be on most ballot he

2215
02:08:39,180 --> 02:08:42,420
Adam Curry: will be on most
ballots. Okay. Well, he he did

2216
02:08:42,420 --> 02:08:46,170
something on CNBC which I think
makes him electable for a lot of

2217
02:08:46,170 --> 02:08:52,290
people. It was just he was it
was actually pretty decent I

2218
02:08:52,290 --> 02:08:54,390
thought and I would like to
share it it's only a minute and

2219
02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:57,990
a half Bobby the app on Bitcoin
Bitcoin you said you

2220
02:08:58,020 --> 02:08:59,730
Unknown: you spoke at a
conference you bought it you

2221
02:08:59,730 --> 02:09:03,420
bought something for your kids
last year? You've more than

2222
02:09:03,420 --> 02:09:05,220
doubled your money if you're
still holding Are you still

2223
02:09:05,220 --> 02:09:06,990
holding I've been like let's
just have a little fun here to

2224
02:09:06,990 --> 02:09:07,560
end the SEC.

2225
02:09:08,670 --> 02:09:11,910
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm still
holding my kids are very, very

2226
02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:14,820
happy about it. We're what's
bitcoins

2227
02:09:14,820 --> 02:09:18,120
Unknown: real role? There are
members of Congress, both

2228
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:21,750
parties I believe that think it
should be banned. Yeah,

2229
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:26,370
Adam Curry: I mean, they want to
ban because they're being paid

2230
02:09:26,370 --> 02:09:30,390
by BlackRock and Morgan and all
the big bank, globalist bank or

2231
02:09:30,420 --> 02:09:34,530
banking monopolies that are
making money on inflation and

2232
02:09:34,530 --> 02:09:39,150
making money on by the Fed
printing money and but American

2233
02:09:39,150 --> 02:09:44,160
people the American middle class
is getting rolled and the off

2234
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:48,930
ramp from that you know, from
the money printing machine is

2235
02:09:48,930 --> 02:09:54,570
Bitcoin because it is hard
currency. And we need to make it

2236
02:09:54,570 --> 02:09:58,500
transactionally available to the
middle class. We need to make

2237
02:09:58,500 --> 02:10:01,200
sure that people want to have
print Take themselves up against

2238
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:04,500
inflation can have this but also
that they have transactional

2239
02:10:04,500 --> 02:10:09,030
freedom at the government is
not, you know, able now to

2240
02:10:09,060 --> 02:10:15,360
digitalize our currencies and
like they did in in Canada. And

2241
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,940
when the truckers disobey, you
know, when the truckers

2242
02:10:17,940 --> 02:10:22,710
protested peacefully, their bank
accounts were shut down. Well,

2243
02:10:22,710 --> 02:10:25,500
you couldn't pay their
mortgages, they couldn't pay for

2244
02:10:25,500 --> 02:10:28,500
their children's education, the
government could control their

2245
02:10:28,500 --> 02:10:32,160
speech by controlling their
transactional freedom and you

2246
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:35,040
know, transactional freedom is
as important as freedom of

2247
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:38,640
speech and you only get that
from Bitcoin we're not going to

2248
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:42,150
get that you know, as long as
the government controls our

2249
02:10:42,150 --> 02:10:44,970
digitalized currency. All it
needs to do now is join the

2250
02:10:44,970 --> 02:10:46,020
Libertarian Party.

2251
02:10:47,220 --> 02:10:49,170
John C Dvorak: A couple of
things there one is not hard

2252
02:10:49,170 --> 02:10:51,840
currency hard currencies gold
and silver. Well,

2253
02:10:52,590 --> 02:10:56,040
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna get in
an argument with you about hard

2254
02:10:56,040 --> 02:11:00,840
currency it is hard currency.
Okay, by that by definite wall

2255
02:11:00,870 --> 02:11:04,830
you said you started by
definition. It is hard currency

2256
02:11:04,830 --> 02:11:06,240
it is hard okay, make

2257
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:10,650
John C Dvorak: so here Oh,
that's interesting. I like that

2258
02:11:10,650 --> 02:11:15,570
little twist. Hard to make
that's what so is a pumpkin pie

2259
02:11:15,570 --> 02:11:19,110
then what is harder sometimes
hard to make? Especially got an

2260
02:11:19,110 --> 02:11:19,410
oven

2261
02:11:20,940 --> 02:11:23,910
Adam Curry: John's new pumpkin
coin everybody so

2262
02:11:23,910 --> 02:11:28,380
John C Dvorak: now so let's go
to let's go to the downside of

2263
02:11:28,380 --> 02:11:32,010
this which you didn't even think
about okay, I'm gonna try to

2264
02:11:32,010 --> 02:11:36,660
seek this guy. They can do it by
slamming Bitcoin and dropping it

2265
02:11:36,660 --> 02:11:41,220
back down to 10,000 or who knows
what and blame him for the loss

2266
02:11:41,700 --> 02:11:45,150
and say look at this guy's he
recommended everyone go into

2267
02:11:45,150 --> 02:11:49,710
Bitcoin and liquid look what
happened? I would be very afraid

2268
02:11:49,710 --> 02:11:54,810
if I was if I was supporting
Kennedy and Bitcoin at this

2269
02:11:54,810 --> 02:11:58,050
point after what he did because
they somebody's out to get

2270
02:11:58,050 --> 02:11:58,650
Kennedy.

2271
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:02,220
Adam Curry: I love this that
he's positive about Bitcoin. I

2272
02:12:02,220 --> 02:12:05,610
really do. But you know, I'm
just I'm pro Bitcoin.

2273
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:07,800
John C Dvorak: Well, you're
happy as a clam because Bitcoin

2274
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,590
is up to 62,000 or something
like that. So it was back to its

2275
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:13,890
Adam Curry: highs. Yes. And I
believe it will go much higher.

2276
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:14,640
As you know, of

2277
02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:16,170
John C Dvorak: course you do.
You wouldn't be in it if you

2278
02:12:16,170 --> 02:12:17,610
didn't think that way. That's
right.

2279
02:12:20,940 --> 02:12:25,680
Adam Curry: Bobby The up has a
shot now. I think he has a shot

2280
02:12:25,710 --> 02:12:28,260
I think I think I think it's a
good move. What else is he going

2281
02:12:28,260 --> 02:12:30,450
to do? Who else is he going to
appeal to?

2282
02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:34,770
John C Dvorak: I don't know they
really cordoned him off. I mean

2283
02:12:34,770 --> 02:12:37,770
talking about I got a guy with a
lot of good messages that's been

2284
02:12:37,770 --> 02:12:43,260
marginalized. We mean he should
have been running against Biden

2285
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:45,000
the Democratic Party should be
ashamed

2286
02:12:45,150 --> 02:12:47,550
Adam Curry: they should be
absolutely they completely

2287
02:12:47,550 --> 02:12:51,570
screwed him cut him out of the
deal and and won't give him any

2288
02:12:51,570 --> 02:12:52,530
protection to boot.

2289
02:12:53,820 --> 02:12:58,320
John C Dvorak: Which is really
scummy thing he's got scumbags

2290
02:12:58,350 --> 02:12:58,830
so maybe

2291
02:12:58,830 --> 02:13:00,900
Adam Curry: just call him
Bitcoin Bobby from now on maybe

2292
02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:05,610
that's a better a better term
Bitcoin Bobby. Because it

2293
02:13:05,610 --> 02:13:11,730
defines him now that for me RFK
Jr. is now Bitcoin Bobby. We

2294
02:13:11,730 --> 02:13:15,690
have been on this very podcast
which does not feature video.

2295
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:21,480
Which which? That way you know
that we're the real deal. We

2296
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:24,420
have been talking about pig
butchering for months.

2297
02:13:25,980 --> 02:13:26,790
Unknown: months

2298
02:13:28,380 --> 02:13:30,930
Adam Curry: Do you remember our
pig butchering conversations?

2299
02:13:31,620 --> 02:13:36,240
No. Yes. Pig butcher. Yes. We
even took a call live on the on

2300
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:40,410
the show. We did these are the
text messages that come in Hi,

2301
02:13:40,410 --> 02:13:44,850
I'm this hot Asian chick. How
you doing? What? Are you going

2302
02:13:44,850 --> 02:13:47,790
to pick me up? Are we playing
tennis today? You're supposed to

2303
02:13:47,790 --> 02:13:54,090
say what what? And then they get
you into some phony crypto scam.

2304
02:13:54,420 --> 02:13:58,050
What actually they get you to a
website where you're buying

2305
02:13:58,050 --> 02:14:01,710
Bitcoin Believe it or not. And
and it's off the charts and

2306
02:14:01,710 --> 02:14:05,250
you're winning and if it's not
Bitcoin, some other coin, and

2307
02:14:05,250 --> 02:14:09,120
it's just a front and they've
taken all your money. And they

2308
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:13,350
do it for months and months and
months. Well, they finally have

2309
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:17,100
have figured out where this is
happening. It's

2310
02:14:17,610 --> 02:14:20,370
John C Dvorak: how long does it
take to find any of these online

2311
02:14:20,370 --> 02:14:21,480
scammers? Oh,

2312
02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:23,520
Adam Curry: well, there's a
whole there's I'm sorry. Oh,

2313
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:23,730
wait, a

2314
02:14:23,730 --> 02:14:25,890
John C Dvorak: lot of them are
over the phone. I get phone

2315
02:14:25,890 --> 02:14:30,570
calls all the time a couple of
times a day with some bogus you

2316
02:14:30,570 --> 02:14:35,580
know, offer usually to take 50 I
get 50% off on my PGD Bill, I'm

2317
02:14:35,580 --> 02:14:38,340
from pg&e the purchasers they're
not from PG anything barely

2318
02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:39,180
speak English.

2319
02:14:39,210 --> 02:14:41,160
Adam Curry: No, but this is
different. This does not they're

2320
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:43,260
no calls this starts with you're
not annoying. No,

2321
02:14:43,260 --> 02:14:45,180
John C Dvorak: I'm I'm just
saying how long does it take?

2322
02:14:45,210 --> 02:14:47,730
Yeah, to catch these criminals?

2323
02:14:48,210 --> 02:14:50,370
Adam Curry: Well, they were
uncatchable because they were in

2324
02:14:50,370 --> 02:14:55,410
scam factories. Yeah, scam
factories.

2325
02:14:55,650 --> 02:14:58,260
Unknown: Now last month, the DW
investigation revealed

2326
02:14:58,260 --> 02:15:02,400
widespread human rights abuse.
is at what are being called scam

2327
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:06,690
factories on the Myanmar Thai
border 1000s of human

2328
02:15:06,690 --> 02:15:10,050
trafficking victims are trapped
in large compounds where they're

2329
02:15:10,050 --> 02:15:14,580
forced to take part in online
cryptocurrency scams that target

2330
02:15:14,580 --> 02:15:18,060
people in Europe, the US and
China. Now, if they refuse,

2331
02:15:18,270 --> 02:15:22,350
they're tortured, allegedly or
sold to other factories. Now,

2332
02:15:22,380 --> 02:15:27,660
China, Thailand and Myanmar have
rescued more than 1000 people.

2333
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:30,780
And I just wanted to clarify, so
we're talking about scam

2334
02:15:30,810 --> 02:15:35,310
factories here. So these are
places where people are forced

2335
02:15:35,310 --> 02:15:38,730
to to get on the phone and trick
people into doing something they

2336
02:15:38,730 --> 02:15:40,740
don't want to do. Can you just
find out exactly

2337
02:15:40,770 --> 02:15:44,520
so why we are calling them
victims is because these people

2338
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:48,690
who are forced to do these drugs
are being trafficked into these

2339
02:15:48,690 --> 02:15:53,730
compounds in Myanmar and other
countries. And they have been

2340
02:15:54,030 --> 02:15:59,160
trained and forced to reach out
to people in Europe in the US in

2341
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:02,910
China to build up a relationship
and then to persuade them to

2342
02:16:02,910 --> 02:16:08,760
invest mostly in cryptocurrency
fake websites, and then they're

2343
02:16:08,940 --> 02:16:13,020
leaving them with and the people
lost a lot of money, which was

2344
02:16:13,020 --> 02:16:14,460
subsequent bachelor, really

2345
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:20,190
Adam Curry: big butchering.
There it is. And so sadly, these

2346
02:16:20,220 --> 02:16:24,270
these are slaves. So you know,
whenever we go like, hey, you

2347
02:16:24,270 --> 02:16:27,480
know, I'm not gonna get the one
of those text messages. Like,

2348
02:16:27,570 --> 02:16:30,840
oh, I recognize your number, but
I don't have you my phonebook.

2349
02:16:30,870 --> 02:16:34,050
Who are you? And you know, I say
hey, I don't I'm not interested

2350
02:16:34,050 --> 02:16:38,250
in your, in your scam, your
crypto scam, and they get really

2351
02:16:38,250 --> 02:16:41,760
mad at you and start calling you
names. But that's now now I feel

2352
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:45,600
bad because they're their
slaves. You almost want to help

2353
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:49,890
them out. 1000s They have
pictures these are these are

2354
02:16:49,890 --> 02:16:51,540
huge compounds.

2355
02:16:52,230 --> 02:16:54,120
John C Dvorak: Who dreams up
these disabilities? You're good

2356
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:55,110
at management.

2357
02:16:55,470 --> 02:17:01,260
Adam Curry: Definitely. Quick
update on the chlor chloro aquat

2358
02:17:02,070 --> 02:17:06,030
that has been found in oat
products like Cheerios and

2359
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:11,010
little report of course you get
no follow up from the M five M.

2360
02:17:11,970 --> 02:17:15,390
Little report here. Oat Miller's
recommended not to use

2361
02:17:15,390 --> 02:17:20,490
manipulator. So apparently this
a quorum aquat just exactly as

2362
02:17:20,490 --> 02:17:25,440
our producer said we're using
this product called manipulator

2363
02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:32,940
on oats and that's what was
getting it into our food supply.

2364
02:17:33,420 --> 02:17:37,230
Who was watching these people
who was watching the stuff that

2365
02:17:37,320 --> 02:17:38,550
was put on the market.

2366
02:17:39,299 --> 02:17:41,549
John C Dvorak: Now they're too
busy pushing the vaccine.

2367
02:17:41,579 --> 02:17:43,619
Exactly. Exactly.

2368
02:17:44,820 --> 02:17:47,340
Adam Curry: Your no agenda show
was watching out for you. That's

2369
02:17:47,340 --> 02:17:54,390
who's looking out for you. Yeah,
yeah. A quick rest in peace for

2370
02:17:54,390 --> 02:17:59,910
Bob Heil. Yeah, kilo Nyko. India
Delta. Yes. I mean, back in the

2371
02:17:59,910 --> 02:18:03,030
day are the first mics we all
use for our podcasts was the

2372
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:08,910
Heil pr 40. But I would say we
do a disservice by saying that

2373
02:18:08,910 --> 02:18:12,030
Bob's supplied the ham radio
industry and the podcast

2374
02:18:12,030 --> 02:18:16,050
industry. I mean, he did entire
sound systems for Grateful Dead

2375
02:18:16,050 --> 02:18:20,610
The Who? Joe Walsh. Friend
Frampton.

2376
02:18:21,240 --> 02:18:24,240
John C Dvorak: We had a
interview with him back and show

2377
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:27,060
I think 728 724 Something like
that. Oh,

2378
02:18:27,119 --> 02:18:29,579
Adam Curry: did we put that on
the air? We put the interview on

2379
02:18:29,579 --> 02:18:30,269
the on the air.

2380
02:18:31,140 --> 02:18:32,160
John C Dvorak: Glad you're
keeping up.

2381
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:36,600
Adam Curry: I can't remember. I
can't remember. Did we? Yeah.

2382
02:18:36,780 --> 02:18:38,790
John C Dvorak: Oh, it was in the
archives

2383
02:18:38,819 --> 02:18:42,179
Adam Curry: that we did we do a
special with Bob or was it just

2384
02:18:42,179 --> 02:18:42,599
it was

2385
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:44,820
John C Dvorak: one of those
filler shows that I do a couple

2386
02:18:44,820 --> 02:18:47,640
of interviews. I didn't when was
Scully and Heil. And that day?

2387
02:18:47,759 --> 02:18:51,059
Adam Curry: Oh, all right.
scaly. Oh, my it was I forgot

2388
02:18:51,059 --> 02:18:52,049
about that one in the

2389
02:18:52,050 --> 02:18:55,290
John C Dvorak: 700. So it was so
long ago, you'd easily forget.

2390
02:18:57,120 --> 02:19:00,930
Adam Curry: Wow, well, Bob, he
was young too. What was he? He

2391
02:19:00,930 --> 02:19:01,440
was

2392
02:19:01,740 --> 02:19:02,490
Unknown: 82 I

2393
02:19:02,490 --> 02:19:06,630
Adam Curry: think that's not
very old or 8383 83

2394
02:19:08,790 --> 02:19:10,260
John C Dvorak: is a nice guy. I

2395
02:19:10,260 --> 02:19:13,110
Adam Curry: never met him but I
liked his product and I still

2396
02:19:13,110 --> 02:19:17,610
use the Tina uses the the Heil
PR 40 Sounds good for her voice.

2397
02:19:18,690 --> 02:19:21,180
Thank you. It's got a good it's
got a good range. Yeah, very

2398
02:19:21,180 --> 02:19:24,150
good range. Thank you to all the
producers who also calculated

2399
02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:29,460
that no way. Was there ever a
Leap Day pod pa show day? For no

2400
02:19:29,460 --> 02:19:33,450
agenda? Wow. The last I know, we
got great people.

2401
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:35,820
John C Dvorak: We got great
nerds out there. Hey, when we

2402
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:37,470
think when we take a look at

2403
02:19:37,469 --> 02:19:43,919
Adam Curry: the last time. A
leap year was on a show day was

2404
02:19:43,919 --> 02:19:46,799
2004. That was a Sunday show. Of
course we didn't have the show

2405
02:19:46,799 --> 02:19:50,939
in 2004. The next time it will
happen. So the next you get

2406
02:19:50,939 --> 02:19:57,659
ready, put it in your calendar
2033 3020 33

2407
02:19:57,690 --> 02:19:59,460
John C Dvorak: That's the next
magic number.

2408
02:19:59,460 --> 02:20:02,190
Adam Curry: Yes, then Next time
and leap year will happen on a

2409
02:20:02,190 --> 02:20:06,030
show day. Wow. And I think we
should we should hold up for it.

2410
02:20:06,210 --> 02:20:08,820
John C Dvorak: Okay, that'd be a
special show we'll have to get a

2411
02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:14,100
special donation amount I'm
already working on a kind of a

2412
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:14,490
gimmick

2413
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:21,450
Adam Curry: with inflation at
that point it'll be dead $20,000

2414
02:20:23,940 --> 02:20:26,160
With that I'd like to thank you
for your courage in the morning

2415
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:28,830
to you the man who put the seat
in the new comers ladies

2416
02:20:28,830 --> 02:20:31,320
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end one only Mr.

2417
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:32,130
Johnson

2418
02:20:36,450 --> 02:20:38,520
John C Dvorak: the number one in
your industry and currently in

2419
02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:40,860
the morning shift seabass and
ground feed near subs in the

2420
02:20:40,860 --> 02:20:41,340
water.

2421
02:20:44,250 --> 02:20:46,830
Adam Curry: And in the morning
to the trolls and the troll room

2422
02:20:46,830 --> 02:20:48,240
Hold on a second trolls me
count.

2423
02:20:53,310 --> 02:20:59,280
Well, okay, good news. Last
Sunday was 20 103. Trolls

2424
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:03,780
listening live were up by
721 10. This is going in the

2425
02:21:03,780 --> 02:21:07,650
right direction, we've got a
positive trend, a positive troll

2426
02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:10,740
trend, I'm liking that a lot
trolls, which you can join a

2427
02:21:10,740 --> 02:21:14,310
troll room.io. Now you don't
want to know people, you may

2428
02:21:14,310 --> 02:21:17,220
want to hang around. Because a
lot of fun stuff happens in this

2429
02:21:17,220 --> 02:21:20,790
portion of the show. All kinds
of things pop up that are

2430
02:21:20,820 --> 02:21:24,870
unexpected. So I'm just saying.
And if you'd like good news, you

2431
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:28,650
definitely want to hang around.
Now you can join the trolls any

2432
02:21:28,650 --> 02:21:32,010
Thursday or Sunday, you actually
want to join troll room.io A

2433
02:21:32,010 --> 02:21:35,850
couple hours early. We have the
two hour blue show on before

2434
02:21:35,850 --> 02:21:40,380
Darren O'Neil who does two hours
before we go live, it's actually

2435
02:21:40,650 --> 02:21:44,130
24/7 on no agenda stream.com
which you can get a troll

2436
02:21:44,130 --> 02:21:48,330
room.io Or you can also get and
I'm going to promote a new

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modern podcast app pod verse,
which also alert you when we go

2438
02:21:53,340 --> 02:21:55,380
live it has the live stream.

2439
02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:57,300
John C Dvorak: Isn't that the
one you did last show I

2440
02:21:57,300 --> 02:22:00,210
Adam Curry: did fountain on the
last show fountain. Today I'm

2441
02:22:00,210 --> 02:22:03,060
doing pod verse, there's 16 of
them so you can count them all.

2442
02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:07,710
And lick them all. Collect them
all, you should collect them

2443
02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:10,500
all. And what you want to do is
you want to support these small

2444
02:22:10,500 --> 02:22:14,040
podcasts. That's because they
are truly the only avenue left

2445
02:22:14,130 --> 02:22:18,750
for freedom of speech. It's not
a platform. Maybe one day we'll

2446
02:22:18,750 --> 02:22:21,780
get blogs to come back, but
seems unlikely at the moment.

2447
02:22:22,260 --> 02:22:26,490
But when it comes to freedom of
speech, your podcast app is very

2448
02:22:26,490 --> 02:22:29,340
important. And it is
independent. It is an

2449
02:22:29,340 --> 02:22:32,430
independent index that powers
it. It's not connected to

2450
02:22:32,430 --> 02:22:35,910
anything Silicon Valley. And you
can import all your existing

2451
02:22:35,910 --> 02:22:40,890
podcasts and you get all the 27
new features, which includes

2452
02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:46,260
updating within 90 seconds of
publishing of this podcast, you

2453
02:22:46,260 --> 02:22:49,650
will be alerted in your podcast
app that alone should make you

2454
02:22:49,650 --> 02:22:56,460
say hey, I want that I want to
be alerted immediately. We are a

2455
02:22:56,460 --> 02:23:02,280
value for value podcast. Which
I'm proud to say this has become

2456
02:23:02,400 --> 02:23:06,690
a term that is being used
everywhere now. People don't

2457
02:23:06,690 --> 02:23:09,840
even know where it comes from,
which I'm I'm kind of proud of

2458
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:13,950
that. I hear people talking
about value for value on noster

2459
02:23:14,250 --> 02:23:18,990
value for value in the beef
industry. At least in the

2460
02:23:18,990 --> 02:23:21,810
independent beef industry.
People are using this term and

2461
02:23:21,810 --> 02:23:25,620
we coined it then we've been
using the the concept for 16

2462
02:23:25,620 --> 02:23:30,000
years, which excludes creepy
corporate money. It excludes

2463
02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:36,540
commercials, it excludes levels
and tote bags and and, and

2464
02:23:36,540 --> 02:23:41,310
subscriptions and all kinds of
things that yet no, it's we

2465
02:23:41,310 --> 02:23:44,700
don't price it for you, whatever
this podcast is worth to you. We

2466
02:23:44,700 --> 02:23:48,090
asked you to put that into a
number and send that back to us.

2467
02:23:48,360 --> 02:23:51,900
But it's not just that it's time
talent and treasure. So you can

2468
02:23:51,900 --> 02:23:54,960
help us in many different ways.
Look at the boots on the ground

2469
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:57,600
will receive and listen to some
of the clips that have been

2470
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:02,910
found like so many X six, seven
people go through the trouble of

2471
02:24:02,910 --> 02:24:05,580
finding the VAX party clip night
it didn't pay off the way he

2472
02:24:05,580 --> 02:24:08,670
wanted to. But it's still it's a
contribution that we appreciate.

2473
02:24:08,670 --> 02:24:11,040
We don't have listeners, we
don't have an audience. We have

2474
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:14,910
producers and it is your job to
return the value with time

2475
02:24:14,910 --> 02:24:19,230
talent or treasure. And people
who do that constantly are the

2476
02:24:19,230 --> 02:24:22,950
no agenda artists they really do
a good job. And we can only

2477
02:24:22,950 --> 02:24:27,120
choose one of course for each
show. We do that by going to no

2478
02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:30,330
agenda art generator.com Thank
you, sir. pulka tour for setting

2479
02:24:30,330 --> 02:24:33,060
that up for us in the new
version, which has been around

2480
02:24:33,060 --> 02:24:37,380
for well over a decade. And we
need to thank the artists who we

2481
02:24:37,380 --> 02:24:42,090
chose for the last episode. This
was mountain j which I think is

2482
02:24:42,090 --> 02:24:45,780
actually lady mountain j because
we've misgendered mountain J You

2483
02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:52,560
know, we we've we've misgendered
mountain Jay several times. And

2484
02:24:52,770 --> 02:24:56,640
you know I think we both looked
at this and went okay AI clearly

2485
02:24:56,640 --> 02:25:01,770
but it was kind of funny. Get
the frog leaping over the brown

2486
02:25:01,770 --> 02:25:06,480
paper bag. We had a sandwich.
And it was it was watercolor. It

2487
02:25:06,480 --> 02:25:10,680
was a watercolor. Prompt. I'm
sure the prompt was frog jumping

2488
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:17,280
over brown brown bag lunch
watercolor. So thank you for all

2489
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:18,690
that effort. Mountain J.

2490
02:25:19,230 --> 02:25:22,080
John C Dvorak: Follow one thing
I liked the most, which you

2491
02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:26,970
nixed away. Men dream with
extreme prejudice.

2492
02:25:27,180 --> 02:25:28,230
Adam Curry: And which one was
that?

2493
02:25:28,620 --> 02:25:31,770
John C Dvorak: The dirty Jersey
whore Texas is burning clip.

2494
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:36,150
Yes. I did. And I said there's
an art that that's a nice piece.

2495
02:25:36,150 --> 02:25:39,480
It's a probably it's a pretty
it's stunning. It sticks out

2496
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:45,420
like a sore thumb. And you said
Not on my watch. Exactly. Never

2497
02:25:45,420 --> 02:25:49,110
going to accept this too soon.
People in Texas are suffering

2498
02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:51,660
and they're mocking it and you
went on and on and on. I was

2499
02:25:51,660 --> 02:25:53,190
like, okay, okay. Okay.

2500
02:25:53,550 --> 02:25:58,200
Adam Curry: We got a note from
Nicole. And she says, I know

2501
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:01,530
this won't be run on the show.
Well, there you go. boots on the

2502
02:26:01,530 --> 02:26:03,870
ground report from my
grandmother and my uncle's

2503
02:26:03,870 --> 02:26:07,680
houses were both burned
completely to the ground. In

2504
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:11,670
Stinnett, Texas she had her home
for 60 plus years. Everyone's

2505
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:14,760
okay and they are taken care of
and have a home for now. Just a

2506
02:26:14,760 --> 02:26:17,790
little comment that this exact
same thing happened last year

2507
02:26:17,790 --> 02:26:21,150
and my grandma was evacuated.
Just this time. It started the

2508
02:26:21,150 --> 02:26:25,080
exact same spot this is a yearly
thing up here. This time the

2509
02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:29,700
winds were just too intense. So
please stop with the lasers from

2510
02:26:29,700 --> 02:26:31,710
Sky stop with

2511
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:35,520
John C Dvorak: that dreams that
stuff up now condemning our

2512
02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:36,450
listeners. Oh,

2513
02:26:36,510 --> 02:26:40,050
Adam Curry: because Pete Not
here. Even in Texas. Oh, this is

2514
02:26:40,050 --> 02:26:43,320
just like the Maui fires. No,
no, I want to remind everybody

2515
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:46,410
how the Maui fire started which
we'll never we'll never hear the

2516
02:26:46,410 --> 02:26:50,610
truth. The Maui fire started
when the power lines went down.

2517
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:53,610
The power company turned off the
power but they were huge

2518
02:26:53,610 --> 02:26:57,180
generators for the hotels that
had been jacked back into the

2519
02:26:57,180 --> 02:27:01,410
grid and they reactivated those
lines that were down we have

2520
02:27:01,410 --> 02:27:05,400
this on good authority from
people who've seen the logs from

2521
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:07,620
the power companies and that
there were surges through the

2522
02:27:07,620 --> 02:27:10,260
lines that were down that
restarted the fire after the

2523
02:27:10,260 --> 02:27:14,760
fire department already left.
And this and this in Texas this

2524
02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:20,370
just happens and no painting
your roof blue will not stop the

2525
02:27:20,370 --> 02:27:23,790
eye in the sky from zapping you
when they do it for real. That

2526
02:27:23,790 --> 02:27:27,900
thing that that drives me nuts
Oprah had her house or roof

2527
02:27:27,900 --> 02:27:33,510
painted blue that's why they
didn't burn her house. It can

2528
02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:34,200
seriously

2529
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:36,690
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I heard
that too

2530
02:27:36,990 --> 02:27:40,800
Adam Curry: much. What else did
we look out here? You'd like

2531
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:43,920
that was it pretty much now
you'd like to count in the drive

2532
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:45,780
thru which I asked if you were
on dry does

2533
02:27:45,780 --> 02:27:48,300
John C Dvorak: kinda like that I
also like brown bag at the

2534
02:27:48,330 --> 02:27:52,260
network's piece with In and Out
Burger logo but and you'd like

2535
02:27:52,260 --> 02:27:55,740
to frog jumping out of the bag
was just too silly looking and

2536
02:27:55,740 --> 02:28:00,000
well done by whatever art
generated was being used. Yeah,

2537
02:28:00,060 --> 02:28:03,870
it was really just well done. I
think it was cute and funny.

2538
02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:08,370
Adam Curry: What I think that
when when you use a an AI it

2539
02:28:08,370 --> 02:28:12,510
will be helpful to us if you
told us which one you used just

2540
02:28:12,510 --> 02:28:13,290
so we can know

2541
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:15,900
John C Dvorak: where are they
going to put that into where how

2542
02:28:15,900 --> 02:28:16,740
are they going to let us know

2543
02:28:17,130 --> 02:28:19,950
Adam Curry: in the title you can
put it in the title

2544
02:28:21,390 --> 02:28:23,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I guess you
could I just like to I mean

2545
02:28:23,580 --> 02:28:24,240
Adam Curry: I'm interested

2546
02:28:24,270 --> 02:28:28,560
John C Dvorak: which now when
you changed it I had why I have

2547
02:28:28,560 --> 02:28:29,130
to because it's

2548
02:28:29,130 --> 02:28:32,070
Adam Curry: all AI and
everyone's doing ai i mean it's

2549
02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:35,460
easier mountain Jay was
literally on Mastodon talking

2550
02:28:35,460 --> 02:28:38,760
about how she had to change the
prompt 100 times to get the

2551
02:28:38,760 --> 02:28:42,630
desired results I mean Okay,
that's fine but I just like to

2552
02:28:42,630 --> 02:28:44,580
John C Dvorak: know I work you
can do it by hand some people

2553
02:28:44,850 --> 02:28:47,880
some people scare monger I
believe uses very little AI I

2554
02:28:47,880 --> 02:28:51,870
think he does one so I just like
you know I think sometimes can

2555
02:28:51,870 --> 02:28:56,430
be just as fast doing it by hand
if you're good as prompt

2556
02:28:56,430 --> 02:28:57,450
engineering.

2557
02:28:59,970 --> 02:29:03,630
Adam Curry: Which I now have a
name for prompt to jockey PJs.

2558
02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:07,800
John C Dvorak: Like that prompt
jockey

2559
02:29:07,800 --> 02:29:10,560
Adam Curry: jockey pump prompt
jockeys. I just I'm interested

2560
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:13,890
because we have to give into it.
AI is clearly

2561
02:29:14,190 --> 02:29:16,560
John C Dvorak: who's going to
have to but we did already have

2562
02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:17,880
two people are

2563
02:29:17,880 --> 02:29:20,970
Adam Curry: using me if two
artists are using AI that's just

2564
02:29:20,970 --> 02:29:22,170
the bottom line this

2565
02:29:22,200 --> 02:29:25,830
John C Dvorak: we don't have to
We just could get no art. There

2566
02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:30,330
Adam Curry: you go. We have to
we have to. We have to there's

2567
02:29:30,330 --> 02:29:34,200
no way around it. We already did
longer go away around it. Thank

2568
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:35,160
you very much mountain James.

2569
02:29:35,430 --> 02:29:38,460
John C Dvorak: The curious thing
it was once comic strip blogger

2570
02:29:38,550 --> 02:29:42,720
who started the whole phenomenon
when he was doing it solo and

2571
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:47,610
producing good pieces. You are
dead set against all AI art. But

2572
02:29:47,610 --> 02:29:51,270
once everyone else started using
it was okay. So you really do

2573
02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:52,830
hate comic strip blogger.

2574
02:29:53,190 --> 02:29:57,510
Adam Curry: Well doesn't
everybody. Yeah, I guess. Now

2575
02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:59,970
he's kind of, he's gonna send a
note to Aaron or please blah

2576
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,820
Adam curry from all Mastodon he
said horrible things to me. He's

2577
02:30:05,820 --> 02:30:09,900
now he's the guy that saying you
better get a new job because AGI

2578
02:30:09,900 --> 02:30:11,670
is going to take it within a
year.

2579
02:30:12,390 --> 02:30:16,320
John C Dvorak: AGI is going
nowhere fast. Not AGI is going

2580
02:30:16,320 --> 02:30:18,600
to be the end of it. None

2581
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:20,910
Adam Curry: of this stuff is the
only thing is really working is

2582
02:30:20,940 --> 02:30:27,090
audio video and an images. Is
this some humor? Images

2583
02:30:27,090 --> 02:30:29,400
John C Dvorak: are kicking ass.
Yeah, images

2584
02:30:29,400 --> 02:30:31,530
Adam Curry: are great. But art
Yeah, do you still want to

2585
02:30:31,530 --> 02:30:35,670
license our content to one of
these LLM bakeries?

2586
02:30:37,260 --> 02:30:39,150
John C Dvorak: To me I don't
think it's a bad idea if we get

2587
02:30:39,150 --> 02:30:39,930
some money.

2588
02:30:42,180 --> 02:30:43,080
Adam Curry: Any money?

2589
02:30:44,940 --> 02:30:47,160
John C Dvorak: pays us? Yeah, of
course. There's

2590
02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:48,060
Adam Curry: no one cares.

2591
02:30:48,090 --> 02:30:49,770
John C Dvorak: You never know
that we have so much good three

2592
02:30:49,770 --> 02:30:54,300
hours for like years, 16 years
and material about public

2593
02:30:54,300 --> 02:30:57,480
advanced current, current
affairs. Everything in between

2594
02:30:57,810 --> 02:31:02,370
16 years of content is a lot of
it has already been moved to

2595
02:31:03,540 --> 02:31:08,550
output. Normal output you can
read it. I think it'd be great

2596
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:09,930
if somebody offered us some
money.

2597
02:31:10,830 --> 02:31:13,620
Adam Curry: Well, no one's
offering so far. Well, we're

2598
02:31:13,620 --> 02:31:16,440
just at the beginning of this.
They're given it to read it for

2599
02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:20,250
free read it's cleaning up we're
not getting anything. Yeah,

2600
02:31:20,250 --> 02:31:21,720
believe read it's gonna read

2601
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:23,640
John C Dvorak: it's kind of
cleaning up but then once they

2602
02:31:23,640 --> 02:31:26,460
go public, and they get their
show in? I mean, it's gonna be

2603
02:31:26,460 --> 02:31:28,500
one hit of money. And then then
what?

2604
02:31:29,310 --> 02:31:31,770
Adam Curry: Yeah, what does
Reddit have a business model? Do

2605
02:31:31,770 --> 02:31:32,190
they make

2606
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:34,950
John C Dvorak: it I know of
Yeah, it annoy people see you if

2607
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:37,890
you can get anything from them.
They have model.

2608
02:31:43,860 --> 02:31:47,490
Adam Curry: Thank you very much
to mountain j, we appreciate it.

2609
02:31:47,610 --> 02:31:50,970
We really appreciate you and all
of the artists who participated

2610
02:31:50,970 --> 02:31:55,740
in our value for value program.
And now let's thank some of our

2611
02:31:55,740 --> 02:31:57,960
executive and Associate
Executive producers. Now here's

2612
02:31:57,960 --> 02:32:01,860
how this works. We'd like to
thank everybody who returned

2613
02:32:01,860 --> 02:32:06,990
value in the amount of $50 or
more, and the top so that's 300.

2614
02:32:06,990 --> 02:32:10,860
Plus, you also get a credit as
an executive producer, which is

2615
02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:14,130
just that's exactly how
Hollywood works. So you can use

2616
02:32:14,130 --> 02:32:19,470
that credit to impress your
friends, potential mates. You

2617
02:32:19,470 --> 02:32:23,100
can put it on your LinkedIn, put
it in your your resume, you can

2618
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:28,050
also open up if you don't have
one, an IMDB profile, and to

2619
02:32:28,050 --> 02:32:31,710
prove it like a baby. Look at
me. I'm an executive producer,

2620
02:32:31,890 --> 02:32:34,890
between two and 300, Associate
Executive Producer. And of

2621
02:32:34,890 --> 02:32:38,340
course everybody's a producer no
matter what you do to return the

2622
02:32:38,340 --> 02:32:41,940
value to the show. And we love
doing it. We're doing it for 60

2623
02:32:41,940 --> 02:32:45,420
We're in our 16th year 1678 What
are you 16 years now? 16 year?

2624
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:48,480
John C Dvorak: What are you
headed to our 70th anniversary

2625
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:48,960
are rockin

2626
02:32:48,960 --> 02:32:51,150
Adam Curry: and rollin and we
kick it off with Duchess Kim

2627
02:32:51,660 --> 02:32:59,670
from Hubbard, Oregon, who comes
in with a big boob donation. 882

2628
02:32:59,700 --> 02:33:07,380
cents that's Have we ever had a
boob donation that size? No,

2629
02:33:07,410 --> 02:33:10,440
that's big. Well, she has a note
there's a big boobs, big boobs

2630
02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:14,010
she says oh and she has a couple
requests here. She wants a screw

2631
02:33:14,010 --> 02:33:20,490
your freedom. Little girl yay.
And F cancer and art two d two

2632
02:33:20,490 --> 02:33:24,780
karma. Okay, so we have all that
I can have all that lined up

2633
02:33:24,780 --> 02:33:28,380
good. In the morning, John.
There's been a lot of boob talk

2634
02:33:28,380 --> 02:33:32,490
as of late and I felt this was
my cue to chime in. After losing

2635
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:36,330
over half of my sweater puppies
to stop breast cancer. I say let

2636
02:33:36,330 --> 02:33:40,080
them fly. Be proud of your
ladies. Ladies. Men just stare

2637
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:43,620
because they're jealous if they
had boobs or be no war because

2638
02:33:43,620 --> 02:33:48,000
they would all be at home
playing with them. I love a

2639
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:52,020
humorous woman. Us women are the
only ones in the world that can

2640
02:33:52,020 --> 02:33:54,210
handle this type of
responsibility. Also, I want to

2641
02:33:54,210 --> 02:33:57,360
answer a question, Sir Kevin,
Duke of Luna lover of American

2642
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:01,500
boobs asked yes, they can put
squeaky toys in them. I asked my

2643
02:34:01,500 --> 02:34:04,590
plastic surgeon but I'm an avid
runner. I did not think it would

2644
02:34:04,590 --> 02:34:07,620
be appropriate running across
the finish line squeaking. Not

2645
02:34:07,620 --> 02:34:10,890
to mention the pack of dogs I
would have chasing me. You too

2646
02:34:10,890 --> 02:34:13,830
are absolutely wonderful. I look
forward to the podcast twice a

2647
02:34:13,830 --> 02:34:17,010
week. I don't know if there's
anyone. I don't know if there's

2648
02:34:17,010 --> 02:34:20,430
anyone who could replace either
one of you keep up the good work

2649
02:34:20,430 --> 02:34:24,390
and stay safe. Duchess Chem
keeper of the Nany fluffers from

2650
02:34:24,390 --> 02:34:27,000
Hubbard Oregon Thank you very
much touch your skin we

2651
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:29,220
appreciate that screw you have
freedom

2652
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:41,280
John C Dvorak: you've got karma.
Yes, we should also mention that

2653
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:44,250
Dutchess Kim that there may be
an opening for a writer on the

2654
02:34:44,250 --> 02:34:45,570
Goodfellas show she might

2655
02:34:46,590 --> 02:34:49,320
Adam Curry: she would be she
would be good for it for sure.

2656
02:34:49,650 --> 02:34:50,190
For sure. Oh

2657
02:34:50,190 --> 02:34:55,200
John C Dvorak: man Bowman Bowman
McMahon in San Antonio, Texas.

2658
02:34:55,650 --> 02:34:59,940
Three, three 3.33 has the best
note of the days. Thanks, y'all.

2659
02:35:00,330 --> 02:35:02,730
They got a double up karma for
that.

2660
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:12,990
Adam Curry: Outstanding karma.
Then we go to surplus surplus

2661
02:35:12,990 --> 02:35:19,230
from Glen Osmond in our business
Australia Austria, Australia,

2662
02:35:19,230 --> 02:35:22,980
Australia, ITM John, I'm groups
of three have been appearing so

2663
02:35:22,980 --> 02:35:25,440
I feel obliged to donate. That's
how it works. You get the magic

2664
02:35:25,440 --> 02:35:28,980
numbers. You know what you'd
have to do? One of my blocks of

2665
02:35:29,010 --> 02:35:31,830
Shiraz yielded 33 tons this
week.

2666
02:35:32,190 --> 02:35:35,820
John C Dvorak: Whoa, winemaker.
Yeah. And I had

2667
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:39,270
Adam Curry: a Shannon blanc Am I
pronouncing that right? Shannon

2668
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:46,830
Shannon blanc with a pH of three
dot 33 bit number. My 333 USD

2669
02:35:46,860 --> 02:35:51,930
donation was a shade over 510
and dollar redos. And in order

2670
02:35:51,930 --> 02:35:54,810
to capitalize on the woeful
exchange rate, which is woeful

2671
02:35:54,810 --> 02:35:57,660
indeed, I would like to reach
out to get my nation I'd be

2672
02:35:57,660 --> 02:36:00,270
interested in expanding our
distribution to cover the United

2673
02:36:00,270 --> 02:36:04,350
States. My winery specializes in
preservation free wines

2674
02:36:04,380 --> 02:36:09,240
preservative I'm sorry. Thank
you preservative free wines. If

2675
02:36:09,240 --> 02:36:13,380
you're interested, please reach
out to admin at Temple temple

2676
02:36:13,380 --> 02:36:21,900
breuer.com.au That is Te MP L E
b r u e r.com.au. Thank you for

2677
02:36:21,900 --> 02:36:25,410
your courage sir plus keeper of
the Federal Reserve. John this

2678
02:36:25,410 --> 02:36:27,600
sounds like an exit strategy for
you.

2679
02:36:28,890 --> 02:36:32,970
John C Dvorak: Getting the wind
distribution when you could sit

2680
02:36:32,970 --> 02:36:36,630
here and yak yak yak or go out
and actually do some work 90 Cal

2681
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:37,470
stickies write

2682
02:36:37,470 --> 02:36:38,970
Adam Curry: a book about it.
That'd be great.

2683
02:36:39,570 --> 02:36:42,360
John C Dvorak: We could about a
vinegar book first

2684
02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:44,340
Adam Curry: and please don't get
me started.

2685
02:36:44,970 --> 02:36:47,580
John C Dvorak: Franny Knutson
Meanwhile, in plantation Florida

2686
02:36:47,580 --> 02:36:51,090
comes in with three three 3.33
and she leaves no note

2687
02:36:51,090 --> 02:36:53,760
whatsoever so she gets a double
up karma until she sends

2688
02:36:53,760 --> 02:37:00,210
something in you've got karma

2689
02:37:03,570 --> 02:37:09,510
Adam Curry: and a second. Where
does the that's true setup

2690
02:37:09,510 --> 02:37:15,810
that's weird. That's I know that
next one I'd have to have that

2691
02:37:15,810 --> 02:37:18,870
ready. I'm surprised that for
some reason that didn't happen.

2692
02:37:18,870 --> 02:37:25,050
Here we go. Clayton Moses,
Anchorage, Alaska 333. Please

2693
02:37:25,050 --> 02:37:29,130
dump me properly as Sir
Delicious, delicious. Pronounce

2694
02:37:29,160 --> 02:37:33,540
Aloe wishes, sir delicious
Aloysius got it the black the

2695
02:37:33,540 --> 02:37:37,890
blade of the black pines. Please
say hello to my friend, Vern. I

2696
02:37:37,890 --> 02:37:41,100
guess he's becoming a knight
today. Love the show you boys

2697
02:37:41,130 --> 02:37:46,230
jingle request China's asshole.
That's true. And JCD me No.

2698
02:37:46,230 --> 02:37:46,740
likey

2699
02:37:46,770 --> 02:37:50,280
Unknown: I know us as hosts to
me. You're likely.

2700
02:37:50,580 --> 02:37:53,880
Adam Curry: That's easy. Lovely.
We'll see you in a bit. Clayton

2701
02:37:54,570 --> 02:37:55,050
Angela

2702
02:37:55,050 --> 02:38:00,120
John C Dvorak: weighing weighing
in Whittier, California. 233 for

2703
02:38:00,120 --> 02:38:03,570
Associate Executive Producer.
Greetings from Shanghai. She's

2704
02:38:03,570 --> 02:38:07,530
not in Whittier. She's in Shari
three is my birthday in a show

2705
02:38:07,530 --> 02:38:09,690
day. So it seems like a good
time. I don't think she's on the

2706
02:38:09,690 --> 02:38:14,400
birthday list. Otherwise it
would be yellow Angela Yang. So

2707
02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:18,240
it seems like a good time to
send some love. Thank you for

2708
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:23,160
keeping me entertained and
informed. Please send karma for

2709
02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:27,870
everyone and you're gonna need a
Bitcoin Shanghai meetup soon I

2710
02:38:27,870 --> 02:38:32,490
think was near Shanghai meetup
recently. I don't remember but

2711
02:38:32,490 --> 02:38:36,090
yeah, we'll go meet Angela in
Shanghai that's got to be that's

2712
02:38:36,090 --> 02:38:38,280
the point that a lot of bars
there that's for sure.

2713
02:38:39,780 --> 02:38:42,780
Unknown: That's and and all hell
is gonna break loose and you're

2714
02:38:42,780 --> 02:38:43,650
gonna need a Bitcoin.

2715
02:38:45,840 --> 02:38:51,390
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Then we have another great note

2716
02:38:51,390 --> 02:38:55,170
from Sir hugger of kitties. And
this is an Associate Executive

2717
02:38:55,170 --> 02:38:57,870
Producer just like Angela Wang.
He is from Zaandam, the

2718
02:38:57,870 --> 02:39:03,570
Netherlands. Row of ducks to 22
dot 22 And he says, hug more

2719
02:39:03,570 --> 02:39:08,340
kitties. Yeah, we'd love that.
Well heard sweet. Yes,

2720
02:39:08,370 --> 02:39:12,570
John C Dvorak: it is Sir pursuit
of patient pish pish secure

2721
02:39:12,570 --> 02:39:18,270
pursuit of peace and tranquility
to to to to to to another row of

2722
02:39:18,270 --> 02:39:25,410
ducks. And he's sent his check
in and a note that says in the

2723
02:39:25,410 --> 02:39:28,170
morning boys, please accept this
shorter row of ducks for the

2724
02:39:28,170 --> 02:39:32,040
month of February to keep myself
current brain my toll

2725
02:39:32,040 --> 02:39:39,660
contributed treasure
2333 $3,333.32. Adam, if you

2726
02:39:39,660 --> 02:39:41,010
would kindly throw in a penny.

2727
02:39:41,700 --> 02:39:45,000
Adam Curry: Yes. I gotta dig in
my pocket.

2728
02:39:45,690 --> 02:39:50,100
John C Dvorak: You can throw it
in as there it is. 3333 Counting

2729
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:54,810
below. Thanks, boys. Keep it
keeping it brief. Sincerely, sir

2730
02:39:54,810 --> 02:39:59,040
pursuit of peace and tranquility
in the lands of the red clay and

2731
02:39:59,040 --> 02:40:00,540
the cherry tree. ease.

2732
02:40:01,800 --> 02:40:04,320
Adam Curry: We move on to
gigawatt Coffee Roasters in

2733
02:40:04,320 --> 02:40:09,420
Bensenville Illinois. I got my I
got my new cans. There it is. I

2734
02:40:09,420 --> 02:40:14,340
drank a cold fusion this
morning. I'm feeling good. I'm

2735
02:40:14,340 --> 02:40:15,510
feeling good. Yeah,

2736
02:40:15,540 --> 02:40:17,010
John C Dvorak: but you've wired
and

2737
02:40:17,130 --> 02:40:22,350
Adam Curry: this is okay stay
just completed. Here we go. This

2738
02:40:22,350 --> 02:40:25,470
is Steve I just completed my
44th cycle around the sun on

2739
02:40:25,470 --> 02:40:28,860
March 1, which was celebrated
with goat burgers and some fine

2740
02:40:28,860 --> 02:40:32,250
craft beers. With every year we
gain a better perspective. I

2741
02:40:32,250 --> 02:40:35,430
want to express my gratitude for
this beautiful gift of life,

2742
02:40:35,580 --> 02:40:38,940
family, friends, good food and
libations and of course, the no

2743
02:40:38,940 --> 02:40:42,180
agenda show for helping prevent
swollen amygdala. Can I get a

2744
02:40:42,180 --> 02:40:44,580
good scream and a brisket for my
birthday? Well, we have

2745
02:40:44,580 --> 02:40:47,100
biscuits. I don't know about
briskets will give you a

2746
02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:51,120
biscuit. And for producers who
love coffee visit risk fits a

2747
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:57,240
gigawatt coffee roses and use
code ITM 20 for 20% off your

2748
02:40:57,240 --> 02:41:00,780
coffee order. Stay caffeinated.
They always give me a biscuit on

2749
02:41:00,780 --> 02:41:04,980
my birthday. You've got karma

2750
02:41:08,670 --> 02:41:10,290
John C Dvorak: there was
something in there. Oh yeah. A

2751
02:41:10,290 --> 02:41:13,440
goat. Goat burger. That's good.
I'd never had a goat burger. I

2752
02:41:13,440 --> 02:41:17,370
think that sounds good. To me.
People should note if you can

2753
02:41:17,370 --> 02:41:20,040
find it you usually get it at a
Muslim

2754
02:41:20,130 --> 02:41:21,720
Adam Curry: born butcher when
Jamaica

2755
02:41:23,550 --> 02:41:26,310
John C Dvorak: maybe I've never
done around here we have a lot

2756
02:41:26,340 --> 02:41:32,310
of Muslim butchers around here
so you can get goat Yeah. Member

2757
02:41:32,340 --> 02:41:35,820
remember dough? It is delicious.
Doesn't it taste like? People

2758
02:41:35,820 --> 02:41:38,190
always think it's gonna taste
like crap. It actually tastes

2759
02:41:38,190 --> 02:41:40,620
like a mild lamb. Do

2760
02:41:40,620 --> 02:41:43,650
Adam Curry: you remember my Uber
driver in San Francisco Tony the

2761
02:41:43,650 --> 02:41:45,840
terrorist yeah Tony

2762
02:41:45,840 --> 02:41:46,980
John C Dvorak: good. Oh, Tony.
Yeah,

2763
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:48,810
Adam Curry: I miss Tony. You
remember that one time he picked

2764
02:41:48,810 --> 02:41:50,880
me up he had a dead goat in his
in the trunk.

2765
02:41:51,900 --> 02:41:54,000
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
this story but the dead goat.

2766
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:58,260
Okay, it was for Ramadan. He had
a dead carry around dead goat in

2767
02:41:58,260 --> 02:41:58,590
the trunk

2768
02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:03,000
Adam Curry: and missed those
days. Good times with Tony the

2769
02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:05,280
terrorists driving the Uber good
times.

2770
02:42:06,690 --> 02:42:08,940
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna skip
you're going to read this one

2771
02:42:08,940 --> 02:42:11,520
I'm going to read Linda IUPAC
and in Lakewood, Colorado comes

2772
02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:15,000
to a tuner bucks and she wants
to jobs karma for a resume that

2773
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:19,020
gets results go to Image makers
inc.com. That's image makers Inc

2774
02:42:19,020 --> 02:42:22,680
with a case not a big deal to
do. She's doing very well for

2775
02:42:22,680 --> 02:42:26,880
herself. She says oh, this image
makers equal to K Find her Linda

2776
02:42:26,880 --> 02:42:30,510
Lou Potkin Duchess of jobs and
writer of resumes on the

2777
02:42:30,510 --> 02:42:33,870
producers. Listen, thank you for
the additional tuner dollars

2778
02:42:33,900 --> 02:42:42,990
Adam Curry: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's karma. Yes. Then we

2779
02:42:42,990 --> 02:42:47,940
have Adam. Chrisman are Kreisman
with double N love the show Adam

2780
02:42:47,940 --> 02:42:51,360
and John. This is a switcheroo
from my amazing friend Jonathan

2781
02:42:51,360 --> 02:42:55,200
D. All right, just switch a
route that for Jonathan D. He

2782
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:58,170
introduced me to the show in the
early days of COVID. had been a

2783
02:42:58,170 --> 02:43:01,920
listener ever since well, then
you are healthy. Jonathan

2784
02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:05,460
epitomizes your connections
protection slogan, buy travel

2785
02:43:05,460 --> 02:43:08,580
often and JD is always looking
out for my family when I'm gone.

2786
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:11,910
He gives me peace of mind by
being so supportive. He recently

2787
02:43:11,910 --> 02:43:15,600
made sure my driveway got plowed
also changed the flat tire for

2788
02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:18,780
my wife. A little producer
credit is the last day

2789
02:43:18,780 --> 02:43:20,820
John C Dvorak: they get they
didn't have it reversed. Yeah.

2790
02:43:23,520 --> 02:43:26,370
Adam Curry: I hear there's an
opening on Gutfeld show. A

2791
02:43:26,370 --> 02:43:29,160
little producer credit is the
least I could do for such a

2792
02:43:29,160 --> 02:43:31,770
wonderful friend. Thanks,
Jonathan. And thank you all for

2793
02:43:31,770 --> 02:43:34,290
such a great show. And we
appreciate that. Thank you very

2794
02:43:34,290 --> 02:43:39,420
much. And I think we should also
mention Spencer Sumner. He

2795
02:43:39,420 --> 02:43:45,150
donated $230.23 and Canadian
dollar Rhett's which we honor

2796
02:43:45,150 --> 02:43:48,570
those, although how much longer
we can honor this clearly

2797
02:43:48,570 --> 02:43:53,940
devalued. Monets monetary unit
is is questionable.

2798
02:43:54,810 --> 02:43:57,090
John C Dvorak: To Jewish put a
deadline we should end it at

2799
02:43:57,090 --> 02:43:57,780
some point

2800
02:43:57,960 --> 02:44:01,500
Adam Curry: when it's 50%. Maybe
because it's not clear what's

2801
02:44:01,500 --> 02:44:05,760
getting there. It's $172.13 But
we will give you the Associate

2802
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:10,350
Executive Producer ship Spencer
Sumner Park, Alberta, Canada.

2803
02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:14,310
Thank you very much. And thank
you, of course everyone who came

2804
02:44:14,310 --> 02:44:17,490
in under $50 and John gonna take
you all the way through there in

2805
02:44:17,490 --> 02:44:20,580
a moment and then we'll get to
our nights and our birthdays and

2806
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:21,900
our meetups. Yeah

2807
02:44:21,900 --> 02:44:23,970
John C Dvorak: and Brian Warner
starts us off in Battle Creek,

2808
02:44:23,970 --> 02:44:28,470
Michigan for 105 35 and Baron
Lakin bear, Letterkenny Houston

2809
02:44:28,470 --> 02:44:35,820
Texas 100 Then we go to Dame
Rhea real Rella tastic brilla

2810
02:44:35,820 --> 02:44:42,690
tastic thank thanks so much in
Auburn California. She said it's

2811
02:44:42,690 --> 02:44:47,430
an email me via email by the too
many eggs book. I'm not sure if

2812
02:44:47,430 --> 02:44:50,130
anyone did this already. What is
the gentleman was talking about

2813
02:44:50,520 --> 02:44:56,010
John Robin a in 100. Dame real
tastic was honored. Aaron

2814
02:44:56,010 --> 02:44:59,970
Weinberg Roberts, Wisconsin at
438. Kevin McLaughlin there

2815
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,280
Dairy is 808 Concord, North
Carolina. Hi, my name is Kevin.

2816
02:45:05,310 --> 02:45:09,930
I have an addiction to boobs. We
noticed ser que Christopher

2817
02:45:09,930 --> 02:45:13,980
Patrick Hill and Parkerville
Washington 808 I'm sorry

2818
02:45:13,980 --> 02:45:20,160
Parkerville West Australia,
Western Australia. Ryan Lane in

2819
02:45:20,160 --> 02:45:24,660
Huntington Beach, California.
6611 another dangling balls

2820
02:45:24,660 --> 02:45:26,520
double dicks showing support

2821
02:45:26,520 --> 02:45:29,280
Adam Curry: for his Idaho and
Cali chicks. Oh, it rhymes.

2822
02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:36,540
John C Dvorak: Gerald. Okay,
it's preB Zendesk prep zest ski

2823
02:45:37,050 --> 02:45:42,030
and prep possess ski in Peru,
Indiana. He centered the

2824
02:45:42,090 --> 02:45:44,910
pronunciation guide because I
would have pronounced his preB

2825
02:45:44,910 --> 02:45:50,370
zu ski, but Prozesse ski is
weird goes. Peru, Indiana.

2826
02:45:50,430 --> 02:45:51,840
Adam Curry: That's a Glenn Beck
donation.

2827
02:45:52,530 --> 02:45:56,400
John C Dvorak: It's a Jeff Beck
donation can you believe it? 609

2828
02:45:56,550 --> 02:45:56,670
I

2829
02:45:56,670 --> 02:45:58,050
Adam Curry: need to go back on
that show.

2830
02:45:59,100 --> 02:46:03,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, actually,
it should beg loves you. Don't

2831
02:46:03,540 --> 02:46:08,190
pick up the soap. Sir Lady Boy
in Mount Laurel towns ship New

2832
02:46:08,190 --> 02:46:15,780
Jersey. 606. Used to be Bobby
brindle horse. Lawrence Coronel

2833
02:46:15,780 --> 02:46:20,670
in Battle Creek Michigan. 5986
Martin in Bellingham Washington.

2834
02:46:20,670 --> 02:46:25,860
5937 sure be boop in New
Brighton Minnesota nuts for the

2835
02:46:25,860 --> 02:46:31,440
676 Brian Furley and for 510
Double nickels on the dime sir.

2836
02:46:31,650 --> 02:46:38,010
Harry pilgrim in Fredericksburg,
Virginia 5510. As a birthday we

2837
02:46:38,010 --> 02:46:38,820
had a birthday coming. Oh,

2838
02:46:38,820 --> 02:46:40,950
Adam Curry: that's Sir Sir Harry
pilgrim who has been with the

2839
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:46,110
show a long, long time. And we
appreciate you, Sir Harry

2840
02:46:46,110 --> 02:46:49,050
Pilgrim, it's his birthday. 55
Double nickels. You got it

2841
02:46:49,050 --> 02:46:49,380
brother.

2842
02:46:50,580 --> 02:46:53,760
John C Dvorak: Herbert Garrett
Raleigh, North Carolina. 5510

2843
02:46:53,760 --> 02:46:59,190
Nicole Wilson farming has
Farmington New Mexico. Now their

2844
02:46:59,760 --> 02:47:01,920
birthday call out to

2845
02:47:02,160 --> 02:47:04,920
Adam Curry: a smokin hot
pregnant wife Nicole Wilson 33

2846
02:47:04,920 --> 02:47:06,600
March 1 Happy Birthday baby.

2847
02:47:08,700 --> 02:47:16,020
John C Dvorak: Peter Peter
Garten in Edina Minnesota 50 to

2848
02:47:16,020 --> 02:47:22,170
72 Hugo Sal Gatto, Minuteman
donation 50 to 72 top notch top

2849
02:47:22,170 --> 02:47:24,030
notch Heating and Air
unfortunately don't have the

2850
02:47:24,030 --> 02:47:27,090
town for this top notch heating
and air but if you ever see him

2851
02:47:27,600 --> 02:47:36,360
use their services 5005 or 5050
Timothy quat what coil coils

2852
02:47:36,360 --> 02:47:41,370
coil yes coil. Now you should
read this no so important st

2853
02:47:41,370 --> 02:47:43,620
Lucy's in for $50.01

2854
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:46,260
Adam Curry: It's very important
because we need to have Karina

2855
02:47:46,260 --> 02:47:50,520
Coyle named I've emailed the
accounting twice need pickles at

2856
02:47:50,520 --> 02:47:54,300
the roundtable and she wants me
Timothy Coyle, Jr. Her husband

2857
02:47:54,300 --> 02:47:58,560
called out as a douchebag
listening since the beginning

2858
02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:01,890
sorta but not donating till I
met her and she told me to start

2859
02:48:01,890 --> 02:48:06,270
donating. That's a woman. That's
a good woman every show day at

2860
02:48:06,270 --> 02:48:09,540
midnight. She hits me in the
mouth and we kiss at every 33

2861
02:48:09,540 --> 02:48:12,660
throughout the day. Oh,

2862
02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:12,870
Unknown: that's

2863
02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:15,870
John C Dvorak: a shot of Scotch
would probably be good too.

2864
02:48:15,900 --> 02:48:18,360
Yeah, that's kiss Anna shatter
Scotch

2865
02:48:19,050 --> 02:48:21,450
Adam Curry: pickles at the
roundtable. You got to pick us

2866
02:48:21,450 --> 02:48:24,540
pick just pickles, pickles,
pickles, pickles, pickles

2867
02:48:24,570 --> 02:48:27,660
John C Dvorak: nuts. Ryan
sharpen Huntsville out of

2868
02:48:27,750 --> 02:48:30,720
Alabama comes in at 50 and now
we're all 50s Just names and

2869
02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:36,420
locations. That Jordan boy you
know Salem, Oregon, Julie Mindon

2870
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:42,570
Minh not do Menaggio Manado
Costa Mesa, Tony Lang Castle

2871
02:48:42,570 --> 02:48:46,230
Pines, Colorado Brendan Locke,
Clara, Sugar Hill, Georgia.

2872
02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:50,820
Justin Heiner, Vine Grove,
Kentucky Jordan Tierney and

2873
02:48:50,880 --> 02:48:55,680
aural South Dakota. James
sheremeta. In Napa knock New

2874
02:48:55,680 --> 02:49:01,620
York. Kirkpatrick in nine nameko
Nanaimo? Nanaimo. I get

2875
02:49:01,620 --> 02:49:03,720
criticized for not pronouncing
your credit even though I've

2876
02:49:03,720 --> 02:49:09,180
been there. BC Canada Charles
Peterson in Albuquerque, New

2877
02:49:09,180 --> 02:49:14,760
Mexico, Jacob Martinez and El
Monte California. Alex, wing guy

2878
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:21,090
in Neosho. Wisconsin Sir Mix in
Fort St. John BC and last on the

2879
02:49:21,090 --> 02:49:28,320
list. JB why. Kevlar in
Amsterdam, Holland K

2880
02:49:28,320 --> 02:49:32,310
Adam Curry: telar que tu lar and
he says he's I think he needs to

2881
02:49:32,310 --> 02:49:35,460
deducing he says I've been the
biggest douchebag ever probably

2882
02:49:35,460 --> 02:49:38,310
apologies. I've been with Adam
since the daily source code.

2883
02:49:38,700 --> 02:49:43,800
Well, you've been around for a
long time and you've been deep

2884
02:49:43,800 --> 02:49:44,460
deuced.

2885
02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:47,940
John C Dvorak: A group of
producers well wishers and

2886
02:49:47,940 --> 02:49:50,520
supporters for show 1639

2887
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:53,100
Adam Curry: appreciate everyone
who came in under $50 which is

2888
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:56,130
for for many reasons of
anonymity. We will never mention

2889
02:49:56,130 --> 02:50:00,480
anything under 50. I see you
4990 nines and Bill Big thank

2890
02:50:00,480 --> 02:50:03,600
you to all of those on
sustaining donations which is a

2891
02:50:03,600 --> 02:50:06,510
recurring subscription. There
are many different versions

2892
02:50:06,510 --> 02:50:09,870
available at no agenda
donations.com Or you can just

2893
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make one up yourself whatever
you want a lot of people like

2894
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the 30 threes and we appreciate
you. We We thank you for sending

2895
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:19,170
back value to the program. It
keeps everything going. And of

2896
02:50:19,170 --> 02:50:22,050
course thanks to our executive
and Associate Executive

2897
02:50:22,050 --> 02:50:24,270
producers for 1639 formula

2898
02:50:24,270 --> 02:50:28,230
Unknown: is this. We go out for
yet people in the mouth

2899
02:50:48,270 --> 02:50:51,420
Adam Curry: we congratulate Eli
the coffee guy who turns 44 on

2900
02:50:51,420 --> 02:50:56,310
March 1, Nicole Wilson 33 on
March 1, and Harry pilgrim who's

2901
02:50:56,310 --> 02:51:00,960
turning 555 and also Angela
Wang, who was celebrating today

2902
02:51:01,020 --> 02:51:04,380
and we say happy birthday and
welcome to get mo nation to

2903
02:51:04,380 --> 02:51:07,290
Roman who was born this morning
right here in Fredericksburg,

2904
02:51:07,290 --> 02:51:10,260
happy birthday from everybody
here at the best podcast in the

2905
02:51:10,260 --> 02:51:16,770
universe. So we no title changes
but we do have one night and one

2906
02:51:16,770 --> 02:51:19,110
day so I'm always happy to draw
the

2907
02:51:19,110 --> 02:51:21,360
John C Dvorak: sword. You go

2908
02:51:22,980 --> 02:51:27,210
Adam Curry: oh, that's a pretty
one. I liked that story. Karina

2909
02:51:27,210 --> 02:51:32,880
coyly coil fight and Moses come
on up here both of you are about

2910
02:51:32,880 --> 02:51:35,340
to become members of the no
agenda roundtable with the

2911
02:51:35,340 --> 02:51:39,000
Knights and Dames I am very
proud to pronounce the K v as

2912
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:43,680
Dame Karina Coyle and Sir
delicious Aloysius the blade of

2913
02:51:43,680 --> 02:51:48,090
the black pines for you. We've
got by request pickles, also

2914
02:51:48,090 --> 02:51:53,130
rent boys short name hookers
blow up. It's all here. We also

2915
02:51:53,130 --> 02:51:56,040
have fish pie and some fellatio,
if that's what you're into. We

2916
02:51:56,040 --> 02:51:58,860
got hearts and how old beers and
blondes got Rubenesque, Lumina

2917
02:51:58,860 --> 02:52:03,420
and Rosie geishas and socking we
have ginger ale and journals

2918
02:52:03,420 --> 02:52:08,070
breast milk and pap of sparkling
cider and escorts Martin mutton

2919
02:52:08,070 --> 02:52:11,220
meet anybody of course that's
always the fan favorite. Now you

2920
02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:14,760
can have some some pickles on
your on your mutton and mine

2921
02:52:14,760 --> 02:52:17,460
tastes good. Don't put it in the
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in in a world where everybody is
searching whole generation of

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search and all it results in is
people just begging for likes

2932
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now this is not a life this is
not anything life online is just

2933
02:53:02,730 --> 02:53:06,750
deteriorating. So the way to top
yourself up to get a little more

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a no agenda meetup you can find
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or Daniel who supports that and
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many eggs.com who always sorts
everything out make sure it's

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good posted nothing bogus is in
there. And we had a meet up in

2940
02:53:27,300 --> 02:53:29,580
Georgia North Georgia meet up
who sent in a report

2941
02:53:29,610 --> 02:53:31,800
Unknown: in the morning Adam and
John it sir Bob here from the

2942
02:53:31,800 --> 02:53:34,170
north Georgia monthly meet up
once again. We had a great

2943
02:53:34,170 --> 02:53:37,230
turnout. We had great food,
great drinks and obviously great

2944
02:53:37,230 --> 02:53:40,320
conversations. The next one will
be Thursday March 28. So come

2945
02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:42,360
one come all let's hear what
everybody had to say.

2946
02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:47,520
In the morning. This is Andy.
This is Surrey connection is

2947
02:53:47,520 --> 02:53:48,180
protection.

2948
02:53:48,540 --> 02:53:49,170
Hey, this

2949
02:53:49,170 --> 02:53:53,610
is Nyira great to be back to see
all the new faces in the

2950
02:53:53,610 --> 02:53:58,380
morning. This is Sir our I want
to give a shout out to cousin

2951
02:53:58,380 --> 02:54:02,370
Vito and all the peeps who are
currently getting together in

2952
02:54:02,370 --> 02:54:05,640
the Mile High City. I would call
on everyone to come out to

2953
02:54:05,640 --> 02:54:09,480
Jasper for a meetup in two
weeks. Got lots of chickens.

2954
02:54:10,230 --> 02:54:13,260
This is Raleigh, North Georgia
here for my second meet up in

2955
02:54:13,260 --> 02:54:13,830
the morning.

2956
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:18,600
In the morning. So the
conversation started about

2957
02:54:18,600 --> 02:54:21,840
pastor Jimmy went through the
Monroe Institute landed on Sean

2958
02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:25,590
Ryan and then I learned a lot
more about black soldier fly

2959
02:54:25,590 --> 02:54:28,590
larvae than I ever thought I
would. This is Sam in the

2960
02:54:28,590 --> 02:54:34,680
morning. Hey, Dr. Sir, my
crotch. I'm not a spook. I'm

2961
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:40,050
just incredibly weird. Hi, I'm
Judy. And we need a free sneaky

2962
02:54:40,800 --> 02:54:41,160
Chancellor

2963
02:54:41,160 --> 02:54:44,310
here with Cherry Street brewpub
and Alpharetta, Georgia hanging

2964
02:54:44,310 --> 02:54:47,880
out with these wonderful fine
folks tonight. Twisting elbows

2965
02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:49,320
and slinging drinks tears

2966
02:54:53,430 --> 02:54:57,000
Adam Curry: sports ball. It's
always a good idea to get your

2967
02:54:57,000 --> 02:55:00,450
server in on the meet up report.
I like that a lot. Will you do

2968
02:55:00,450 --> 02:55:02,400
that and then you know because
then you can say goalless that

2969
02:55:02,400 --> 02:55:05,700
show and before you know you've
hit him in the mouth or maybe

2970
02:55:05,700 --> 02:55:07,020
the whole the whole place.

2971
02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:09,240
John C Dvorak: That's what I'm
saying. You get a bartender

2972
02:55:09,240 --> 02:55:11,130
going. Yeah, they like to talk

2973
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:13,650
Adam Curry: they oh they love
it. They love it. We have a

2974
02:55:13,650 --> 02:55:16,470
couple of meetups taking place
today the Don't be a douchebag

2975
02:55:16,470 --> 02:55:21,240
meet at 530 and McNally's in
Tulsa, Oklahoma. And on

2976
02:55:21,240 --> 02:55:24,570
Thursday, the northern wake
spring cleaning soiree kicks off

2977
02:55:24,570 --> 02:55:29,640
at six o'clock at hoppy endings
in Raleigh, North Carolina. And

2978
02:55:29,640 --> 02:55:32,430
in the week we got San Antonio,
Texas. Oh, that's good San

2979
02:55:32,430 --> 02:55:35,970
Antonio. On the ninth also Mount
Laurel Township, New Jersey on

2980
02:55:35,970 --> 02:55:38,460
the ninth Pontiac, Michigan
Anchorage Alaska and middle

2981
02:55:38,460 --> 02:55:41,970
birth the Netherlands on the
ninth and then on the next

2982
02:55:42,420 --> 02:55:45,780
Sunday we'll have albuquerque
new mexico Johns island south

2983
02:55:45,780 --> 02:55:49,290
carolina Indianapolis in the
meet up that'll be their march

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02:55:49,290 --> 02:55:52,440
meet up you can find all of
these at no agenda meetups.com

2985
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go there if you'd like to find
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2986
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2990
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John C Dvorak: day you won't be
triggered all you want to say is

2991
02:56:25,710 --> 02:56:26,040
like

2992
02:56:28,470 --> 02:56:32,220
Adam Curry: well, I have a
feeling that that you're

2993
02:56:32,220 --> 02:56:36,960
probably going to get the winner
for our ISO because I only have

2994
02:56:36,960 --> 02:56:45,900
one as not a great one at that.
Play. God. I mean, what? Yeah,

2995
02:56:46,230 --> 02:56:47,370
yeah, I know. I know.

2996
02:56:47,400 --> 02:56:49,410
John C Dvorak: I know. I know.
Eric Carlson. Now. That

2997
02:56:49,410 --> 02:56:54,270
Adam Curry: was Anderson Cooper.
All right. I got four. Oh, boy.

2998
02:56:54,330 --> 02:56:56,220
All right. Which one are we
going to choose? Here?

2999
02:56:56,220 --> 02:56:58,680
John C Dvorak: We start with had
enough. had

3000
02:56:59,460 --> 02:57:02,970
Adam Curry: had enough. We were
doing Oh. Oh, I see.

3001
02:57:05,580 --> 02:57:10,020
Unknown: I've had enough. Okay.
That's not bad. That's not bad.

3002
02:57:10,170 --> 02:57:11,340
It's not bad.

3003
02:57:11,460 --> 02:57:17,040
John C Dvorak: How about hey,
hey, hey, hey. Okay. Would you

3004
02:57:17,040 --> 02:57:21,270
play it? What were you saying it
Okay, no, no, that I played it.

3005
02:57:21,270 --> 02:57:24,510
Yeah. Okay, let's go with
Winner. Winner.

3006
02:57:26,910 --> 02:57:30,630
Adam Curry: Low low blow, blow
blow on trying to slip that one

3007
02:57:30,630 --> 02:57:31,500
in as a winner.

3008
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:35,940
John C Dvorak: And last, which
is the I think is the winner it

3009
02:57:36,060 --> 02:57:40,290
personally, but you can go with
anything. Thanks, Nancy. Thanks,

3010
02:57:40,290 --> 02:57:40,800
Nancy.

3011
02:57:40,980 --> 02:57:43,140
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, you're
right. Thanks, Nick. It's good.

3012
02:57:43,410 --> 02:57:47,070
Thanks, Nancy. Because neither
of us is Nancy. I mean, you

3013
02:57:47,070 --> 02:57:50,850
know, we're both you're so
sharp. I think the god Feld gig

3014
02:57:50,850 --> 02:57:58,380
is yours. And they're good news.
Good news. Good news. Good news.

3015
02:57:58,380 --> 02:58:00,600
All right. Good news, everybody.
This is what we do at the end of

3016
02:58:00,600 --> 02:58:03,630
our show, so that regardless of
all the things you heard today,

3017
02:58:03,630 --> 02:58:05,670
and there were several things
that you might have laughed at,

3018
02:58:05,670 --> 02:58:08,520
you thought it was news, but
funny news. And we brought you

3019
02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:11,370
up to speed on most things
today. Now, let's end it with

3020
02:58:11,370 --> 02:58:14,130
some really good news. So you
feel good as you go into your

3021
02:58:14,130 --> 02:58:16,860
Sunday evening or Monday,
whenever you're listening to it.

3022
02:58:18,570 --> 02:58:21,780
John C Dvorak: Okay, this was a
dead baby. Baby story,

3023
02:58:21,810 --> 02:58:23,670
Adam Curry: baby. How can that
be good news?

3024
02:58:23,910 --> 02:58:26,490
John C Dvorak: It's good news
because it's not a dead baby.

3025
02:58:26,550 --> 02:58:29,580
Unknown: What started off as a
normal work shifts turned into a

3026
02:58:29,580 --> 02:58:32,940
night long branch firefighter
David Phillips says he will

3027
02:58:32,940 --> 02:58:34,920
never forget, I started

3028
02:58:34,920 --> 02:58:40,740
opening the door and was met by
a family. It was a mother, a

3029
02:58:40,740 --> 02:58:47,700
father and a daughter, probably
like teenage age. And they were

3030
02:58:47,700 --> 02:58:52,140
screaming banging on the doors.
And as the door opened,

3031
02:58:53,160 --> 02:58:58,680
maybe about a quarter of the
way. They handed me a lifeless,

3032
02:58:58,980 --> 02:59:00,360
baby. He says

3033
02:59:00,360 --> 02:59:02,790
since the parents could not
speak English, their eldest

3034
02:59:02,790 --> 02:59:05,970
daughter had to act as a
translator. And once the baby

3035
02:59:05,970 --> 02:59:09,150
was placed in his hands, his
training instantly kicked in,

3036
02:59:09,180 --> 02:59:13,980
I realized that the child was
not breathing. It did have a

3037
02:59:13,980 --> 02:59:18,300
pulse. The baby did have a
pulse. And I immediately went

3038
02:59:18,300 --> 02:59:23,160
into what we call back blows to
try to dislodge whatever was

3039
02:59:23,160 --> 02:59:26,940
obstructing the baby's airway.
Because that's the most

3040
02:59:26,940 --> 02:59:32,580
important thing. Once we got the
airway back, I was able to clear

3041
02:59:32,580 --> 02:59:37,950
the airway security airway, and
shortly thereafter I felt her

3042
02:59:37,950 --> 02:59:40,560
take a breath in my my left
hand.

3043
02:59:40,680 --> 02:59:43,620
Philip says they immediately
gave the infant oxygen and

3044
02:59:43,620 --> 02:59:47,550
called the ambulance. Captain
Carl Griffin says he is proud of

3045
02:59:47,550 --> 02:59:50,850
how the situation was handled
and happy they were able to save

3046
02:59:50,850 --> 02:59:51,390
a life,

3047
02:59:51,810 --> 02:59:56,160
something like this. I think it
was great because that family

3048
02:59:56,160 --> 03:00:00,540
came to the right place and came
to the right people. And because

3049
03:00:00,540 --> 03:00:04,110
these guys hear them coming
here. babies alive today in

3050
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longbranch Emanuelle up here
news 12

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Adam Curry: There you go New
Jersey. Good news, this is heavy

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03:00:18,090 --> 03:00:27,570
news is everybody we love good
news makes you feel good. It's

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like vitamins for your soul. Am
I right?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I wish I
could get the good clip. But

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there's a story about a four
year old girl who climbed 30

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feet up a tree like a cat. And
they had to rescue have with

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03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:48,810
some sort of, you know, one of
those pickers or something,

3058
03:00:48,810 --> 03:00:48,990
there's a

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Adam Curry: picker.

3060
03:00:52,050 --> 03:00:54,480
John C Dvorak: And I'm thinking
what kind of a four year old

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tree but 30 foot tree some
university.

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Unknown: In that case, you're
gonna hear from her. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: That'll do it for
this episode. No agenda, of

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03:01:07,320 --> 03:01:09,750
course. We'll be back on
Thursday and of show mixes from

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03:01:09,750 --> 03:01:13,650
Professor J. Jones, Rolando
Gonzalez and Maddie j we have

3066
03:01:13,680 --> 03:01:16,500
next on the no agenda stream. If
you're still logged into the

3067
03:01:16,500 --> 03:01:20,130
troll room dot o IO or your
modern podcast app, we've got

3068
03:01:20,130 --> 03:01:25,350
hogs story, Episode 392. And I'm
coming to you from the heart of

3069
03:01:25,350 --> 03:01:29,160
the Texas Hill Country and say
in the morning, I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's gonna

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03:01:31,290 --> 03:01:33,210
rain again, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Meet us here again
for all the deconstruction of

3073
03:01:35,970 --> 03:01:39,480
the news and the good news along
with your mixes and all the fun

3074
03:01:39,480 --> 03:01:45,600
stuff on Thursday till then
adios mofos Oui, oui, and such.

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03:01:46,500 --> 03:01:46,800
For

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Unknown: the over 48 million
Americans report using

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marijuana. Two

3078
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very common things cannabis use
heart disease 25% increase odds

3079
03:01:58,590 --> 03:02:03,480
of having a heart attack 42%
higher odds of having stroke

3080
03:02:04,470 --> 03:02:04,770
doesn't

3081
03:02:04,770 --> 03:02:07,680
matter how you consume it if you
smoke it or edibles

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as it comes down to so often
risks versus benefits.

3083
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And it's still not federally
legal. But a lot of people, they

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rely on it for a variety of
reasons and anxiety to replace

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03:02:20,880 --> 03:02:22,440
alcohol to relieve pain.

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Interesting What 25% increased
odds of having a heart attack.

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03:02:30,030 --> 03:02:31,530
How you consume it if you smoke
it.

3088
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You know it comes down to risk
benefit.

3089
03:02:37,770 --> 03:02:41,100
For the over 40 million
Americans report using

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03:02:41,100 --> 03:02:41,730
marijuana,

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03:02:42,540 --> 03:02:45,750
a 42% higher odds of having a
stroke.

3092
03:02:46,800 --> 03:02:50,100
But a lot of people, they rely
on it for a variety of reasons

3093
03:02:50,130 --> 03:02:55,470
and anxiety, to replace alcohol
to relieve pain, increasing a

3094
03:02:55,470 --> 03:02:59,670
risk of having a heart attack or
stroke. Those who use it daily

3095
03:03:00,360 --> 03:03:00,660
as

3096
03:03:00,660 --> 03:03:03,780
it comes down to so often risk
versus benefit.

3097
03:03:05,250 --> 03:03:09,510
Isn't that how you consume it if
you smoke it or edibles but a

3098
03:03:09,510 --> 03:03:13,020
lot of people they rely on it
for a variety of reasons and

3099
03:03:13,020 --> 03:03:18,060
anxiety to replace alcohol to
relieve pain. Those who use it

3100
03:03:18,060 --> 03:03:18,690
daily

3101
03:03:19,980 --> 03:03:24,180
as it comes down to so often
risk versus benefit. Counsel

3102
03:03:24,180 --> 03:03:28,800
is focused on digital assets
runs, such as from runs on

3103
03:03:28,830 --> 03:03:35,340
crypto acid platforms, in stable
coins, to vulnerabilities,

3104
03:03:35,730 --> 03:03:41,130
crypto asset price volatility,
proliferation of platforms,

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03:03:41,370 --> 03:03:46,470
acting outside of whatever
compliance with applicable laws

3106
03:03:46,470 --> 03:03:51,480
and regulations, applicable
rules and regulations and force

3107
03:03:53,490 --> 03:03:59,370
to acid platform state and coin
coils, acid price volatility

3108
03:03:59,370 --> 03:04:04,860
proliferation of forms
compliance laws and regulations

3109
03:04:06,150 --> 03:04:13,260
to do acid but for stable coin,
price proliferation forms,

3110
03:04:14,220 --> 03:04:22,110
vulnerabilities. Price folks in
Congress passed legislation

3111
03:04:22,650 --> 03:04:27,330
provide for the regulation of
stable coins in the spot market

3112
03:04:27,330 --> 03:04:32,400
for crypto assets that are not
securities for forward to

3113
03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:38,070
continuing to engage with
Congress on this. Sunday, right.

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03:04:39,930 --> 03:04:47,100
Sunday. Sunday every Sunday
after church Sunday. It's Sunday

3115
03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:52,170
remember we're heading for a
Sunday afternoon. Sunday

3116
03:04:52,170 --> 03:04:57,330
afternoon is perfect. We're
heading for a Sunday. Yes with

3117
03:04:57,330 --> 03:04:59,220
all of us are doing Sunday
afternoon.

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03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:04,170
John C Dvorak: later Sunday,
Sunday, Sunday

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03:05:10,769 --> 03:05:14,819
Unknown: afternoon, Sunday
afternoon, afternoon, Sunday

3120
03:05:14,819 --> 03:05:19,949
afternoon. Afternoon every
Sunday afternoon. Afternoon.

3121
03:05:20,009 --> 03:05:20,699
I'll see you Sunday

3122
03:05:22,170 --> 03:05:26,910
afternoon, Sunday afternoon.
Afternoon Sunday afternoon.

3123
03:05:27,810 --> 03:05:29,340
Afternoon, Sunday afternoon.

3124
03:05:30,900 --> 03:05:32,100
John C Dvorak: On Sundays always

3125
03:05:34,410 --> 03:05:37,530
Adam Curry: listen live on
Thursdays Thursdays on Sunday,

3126
03:05:37,980 --> 03:05:43,350
Thursdays and Sundays Sunday
Sunday. Sunday afternoon

3127
03:05:48,840 --> 03:05:50,340
John C Dvorak: it's exactly the
same as last Sunday.

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Adam Curry: MoPhO boruch.org/in
Thanks Nancy.

