1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,940 John C Dvorak: It's a mask is wearing a mask. It's not Joe 2 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:05,550 Adam curry Jhansi Dvorak, 3 00:00:05,850 --> 00:00:08,790 Adam Curry: Mark 720 24 This Year Award Winning Combination 4 00:00:08,790 --> 00:00:11,790 media assassination episode 16 party. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,380 Unknown: This is no agenda, defeating di 6 00:00:16,380 --> 00:00:19,290 Adam Curry: LLM, and broadcasting live from the heart 7 00:00:19,290 --> 00:00:22,770 of the country here in FEMA Region number six. In the 8 00:00:22,770 --> 00:00:24,420 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:24,630 --> 00:00:26,790 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all 10 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:29,790 awaiting the State of the Union. I'm John C. Dvorak 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:31,980 Unknown: and Buzzkill. 12 00:00:35,310 --> 00:00:40,830 Adam Curry: The State of the Union. There's prop bets for the 13 00:00:40,830 --> 00:00:44,040 state of pads. Yes, hold on. I wrote them down. Hold on a 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,490 second, they did a great the prop bets for the State of the 15 00:00:47,490 --> 00:00:52,020 Union. Okay. And so a prop bet is, as you've explained to me, 16 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:55,320 basically opposition to promises you come you can bet on 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,960 anything. So here are some of the prop bets of the length. The 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,170 over under a 69.5 minutes. 19 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:08,100 John C Dvorak: That's pretty long. I'm going under 20 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:12,060 Adam Curry: I would go under on that. The number of non facts as 21 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:15,780 per WaPo fact checker blog over under 11 and a half. 22 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:18,600 John C Dvorak: This is this a dubious bet 23 00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:21,630 Adam Curry: I go under on that I go way under on that. But here's 24 00:01:21,630 --> 00:01:24,990 here's the interesting ones. For Biden, will any of these happen? 25 00:01:25,260 --> 00:01:30,180 direct mention of Trump odds are two to one to miss to miss name 26 00:01:30,210 --> 00:01:35,130 a foreign leader or country? The odds are three to one to say 27 00:01:35,130 --> 00:01:38,010 senile or dementia three to one. I don't believe that. 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,250 John C Dvorak: No, no, I would bet Yes. But what do you say 29 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:41,580 that? 30 00:01:41,850 --> 00:01:44,820 Adam Curry: Of course well, I'm just hey, I don't have a I'm not 31 00:01:44,820 --> 00:01:46,980 betting be I don't make them up to direct 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,020 John C Dvorak: where you even make these beds. Oh, 33 00:01:50,370 --> 00:01:53,490 Adam Curry: I got the link. There's a real bet real bedding 34 00:01:53,490 --> 00:01:54,240 place? No, 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,950 John C Dvorak: I'm sure they're real beds. I just don't know 36 00:01:55,950 --> 00:01:56,580 where you'd make them. 37 00:01:57,810 --> 00:02:01,710 Adam Curry: online. You can do them online. To directly mention 38 00:02:01,710 --> 00:02:08,520 Obama four to one to have a five second brain freeze five second 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,350 brain freeze 10 to one odds to confuse Trump with Obama 14 to 40 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:18,030 one and to confuse Nikki Haley with anyone 20 to one and then 41 00:02:18,030 --> 00:02:22,590 most mentions 10 to 13 odds on the border three to one on 42 00:02:22,590 --> 00:02:33,270 Ukraine. guns or gun 19 to four security six to one. Let me see 43 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:37,620 Biden to refer to his own or Trump's age odds are four to one 44 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:43,320 for yes and one to seven for no and then we also have prop bets 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,490 on the State of the Union response which will be brought 46 00:02:47,490 --> 00:02:51,630 by Katie Britt and know exactly 47 00:02:51,870 --> 00:02:54,150 John C Dvorak: bet on that and no one will watch 48 00:02:56,070 --> 00:02:59,250 Adam Curry: one to one odds on cognitive one to one on radical 49 00:02:59,250 --> 00:03:04,140 Islam. six to five on Mexico says three to two on sleepy 50 00:03:04,950 --> 00:03:09,030 communists two to one odds senile nine to four dementia 11 51 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:14,370 to four woke my woke mind virus nine to two odds and Antifa. 52 00:03:14,580 --> 00:03:17,670 Five to one odds. So there's money to be made. there's money 53 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:18,780 to be made. Yeah, you'd 54 00:03:18,780 --> 00:03:20,910 John C Dvorak: have to have the you know, the problem with it is 55 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:23,310 you if you had the speech in advance, you can make these 56 00:03:23,310 --> 00:03:27,450 bets. Oh, well, yeah. And I'm at a certain point, these bets are 57 00:03:27,450 --> 00:03:30,300 this kind of prop bets are no good because they're, you can 58 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:34,380 easily it can be rigged. I mean, if I was somebody working with 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,190 John Pierre Claude Van Damme and I was looking at I have the 60 00:03:38,190 --> 00:03:41,190 speech in front of me. I wouldn't be calling my bookie 61 00:03:44,010 --> 00:03:47,880 telling Biden make sure you don't blow this one up. So 62 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:52,410 Adam Curry: just this morning, it's the most cringe thing I 63 00:03:52,410 --> 00:03:57,270 could have imagined our president did. He did a zoom 64 00:03:57,270 --> 00:04:02,970 call. It's on. It's on the X with former presidents in 65 00:04:02,970 --> 00:04:04,980 John C Dvorak: the movies. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is 66 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:05,940 unbelievable. 67 00:04:06,180 --> 00:04:10,680 Adam Curry: He had on Morgan Freeman. Tony Goldwyn, Gina 68 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,010 Davis, who also played president in the movie, Michael Douglas 69 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:18,960 and Bill Pullman. Who did. Independence. Do you want to 70 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,300 hear some of that? I have. I haven't. Yeah, okay. Sure. 71 00:04:21,330 --> 00:04:23,640 Unknown: I never spoke to so many presidents all at one time. 72 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:26,610 Some of you might know what a big speech I got to do is coming 73 00:04:26,610 --> 00:04:29,940 up State of the Union. advice you have for me, Mike Dillard, 74 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:31,380 my speech. What 75 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:36,030 else and my capacity as President, all I had to deal 76 00:04:36,030 --> 00:04:41,580 with was a media are. One of the things that I miss is 77 00:04:41,580 --> 00:04:45,240 Adam Curry: Morgan Freeman, for those who can't understand was 78 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:45,480 that 79 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,510 John C Dvorak: it's so recognizable, 80 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:51,870 Unknown: opens the strongest posts we have and then we get to 81 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:57,450 is the most useful and the most effective, and I advices 82 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:01,020 Adam Curry: just keep that too long. Oregon tighten it up. 83 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:03,780 Unknown: That's how you're working for us. 84 00:05:05,549 --> 00:05:07,439 Adam Curry: Stick to Dave no script, Mr. President. 85 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:10,350 Unknown: Looking back on my own presidency. I 86 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:14,309 Adam Curry: does anyone know Tony Goldwyn anymore? Do we even 87 00:05:14,309 --> 00:05:15,899 know? Do we even know what he looks like? 88 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:20,430 John C Dvorak: It goes dead. I have no idea. I have to look at 89 00:05:20,430 --> 00:05:23,040 go look him up to see what he looks like even know who he is. 90 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,100 We're 91 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:25,740 Adam Curry: gonna find Gina day. Oh, and also, when I 92 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:33,330 Unknown: do that with ice cream, I highly encourage it. I know 93 00:05:33,330 --> 00:05:34,830 for me, obviously, 94 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:39,210 but a tough job it is. And, you know, when I was struggling a 95 00:05:39,210 --> 00:05:43,260 little bit like this president, it seemed like every week, there 96 00:05:43,260 --> 00:05:46,680 was some new crisis that I had to face and did 97 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,520 a hell of a job. 98 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:55,140 Adam Curry: It's so pathetic. Let's just skip to the end. 99 00:05:56,190 --> 00:05:59,160 Unknown: There's nothing that we can't do when we do it together. 100 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,930 This is Pullman. Those are good ones. Best wishes to you, sir. 101 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:07,140 There's nothing beyond our capacity. And I believe that. 102 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:13,500 Hey, come see me. I'd love to meet you in person. Thank you 103 00:06:16,110 --> 00:06:19,890 very much. I never spoke to so many presidents all at one time. 104 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:24,360 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 105 00:06:25,290 --> 00:06:26,010 John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank you. 106 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:34,500 Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you sad just sad. Sad. I mean, we 107 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:39,720 used to be cool. America used to be cool. No longer this 108 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,480 John C Dvorak: is sad. This is not good. Debt is totally 109 00:06:42,660 --> 00:06:47,940 pathetic. And the sad I'm sure that the left you know the Bill 110 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:51,390 Maher's or the world are all thinking that's fabulous. Please 111 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:51,720 go 112 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:56,610 Adam Curry: see that. That was awesome. I have no no you don't 113 00:06:56,670 --> 00:06:59,460 he didn't actually say that. Did he build more? Awesome. 114 00:06:59,820 --> 00:07:03,630 John C Dvorak: No, no, I have the his complete screw up. 115 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. All right. Let's do Bill Maher. What 116 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,980 John C Dvorak: do you got? Well, 117 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:10,890 Adam Curry: where is this from his show or from his podcast? 118 00:07:10,890 --> 00:07:11,610 Show him his show. 119 00:07:12,660 --> 00:07:17,220 John C Dvorak: It's from his show live and he actually set it 120 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:21,000 up with the list set it up with Jack pro bro react. Is that 121 00:07:21,030 --> 00:07:27,870 whatever seebik Proceed. He's on he's at CPAC and he's just 122 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:31,230 standing up there trying to be funny. And he says Does the C 123 00:07:31,230 --> 00:07:34,230 pay this clip C pack Jack Jack I got you. 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,030 Unknown: Go Welcome. Welcome. I just wanted to say look, welcome 125 00:07:39,030 --> 00:07:43,320 to the end of democracy. We're here to overthrow completely we 126 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,080 didn't get all the way there on January 6, but we will we will 127 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,040 endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with with this right 128 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,980 here who will replace it with this fire. Amen. 129 00:07:54,780 --> 00:07:58,740 Adam Curry: Yes, you know, Jack should not be doing this stick. 130 00:07:59,430 --> 00:08:00,270 Unknown: No. Well, he's 131 00:08:00,270 --> 00:08:03,000 John C Dvorak: not he's not a comic. No, but But what's 132 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,010 interesting is they is Maher took it seriously to such an 133 00:08:08,010 --> 00:08:11,910 extreme that's a no Oh, no. believable. This is a 134 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:15,120 professional comedian and listen to this Bill Maher on the end of 135 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,310 democracy one CPAC 136 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:20,370 Unknown: Do you know what that is? That is the conservative one 137 00:08:20,370 --> 00:08:20,550 is it 138 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:23,400 unfortunate what is packed with the collapsing political action 139 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,060 committee? Okay. 140 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:26,970 It's their big convention every year. It's like, like 141 00:08:26,970 --> 00:08:29,010 corporations have a big convention. They have their big 142 00:08:29,010 --> 00:08:32,160 image. I made jokes about it every year. I can't remember the 143 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,200 time we did that was way back. I remember once calling it the 144 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Woodstock for the mentally impaired 145 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,320 in years past, it was like the most conservative commentators 146 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,370 and senators and governors and okay this year there's a guy 147 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:57,210 I've heard this name I don't know who he is Jack pro sobic is 148 00:08:57,210 --> 00:09:01,110 doing sort of like a roundtable discussion. You know, it's a 149 00:09:01,110 --> 00:09:04,680 convention they have these things. This is a quote Welcome 150 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:07,530 to the end of democracy. We are here to overthrow it 151 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:10,020 Adam Curry: out here so he didn't actually see it. His 152 00:09:10,020 --> 00:09:12,660 writers just wrote this for him and he's too lazy to actually 153 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:15,060 look at the clip that I'm already feeling what's happening 154 00:09:15,060 --> 00:09:16,440 here completely. 155 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,730 Unknown: We didn't get all the way there on January 6, but we 156 00:09:20,730 --> 00:09:24,150 will endeavor to get rid of it. Am I missing an irony here? Yes 157 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:30,240 is missing a joke it seems now they are saying the out the 158 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:34,320 quiet part out loud flub the thing or not this is stupid. 159 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,170 This is their big this is Republican conservative their 160 00:09:37,170 --> 00:09:39,990 big convention and you have a guy like this in the crowd is 161 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:43,650 loving it. Welcome to the end of democracy. We're here to 162 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:46,830 overthrow it. January 6 was good. Now we're going to finish 163 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:49,080 the job. False. It's scary. 164 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:54,720 Adam Curry: Oh, clutching my pearls is scary, scary, scary. 165 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,800 It's the biggest convention in the world. So they have 166 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,510 John C Dvorak: so this woman So this is more pathetic, I think 167 00:10:03,510 --> 00:10:09,060 then than what you played. And by the way, it wasn't ironic it 168 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:12,990 was sarcastic, but we can quibble about that later. So he 169 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:16,710 has this woman on who's a lefty who ended up going on I have a 170 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:21,690 clip of her later what's her name? It's her name is Bachi 171 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:23,610 something so she's 172 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,700 Adam Curry: isn't she from new she's the Newsweek opinion 173 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:27,210 editor. 174 00:10:27,270 --> 00:10:29,910 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's the Newsweek opinion. Woman. So 175 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:32,970 she's on the show and she's dying knowing that this is 176 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:36,090 nonsense. Well, the guy sitting next to her is going oh, it's so 177 00:10:36,090 --> 00:10:39,090 Adam Curry: scary. It's scary. Who was the guy sitting next to 178 00:10:39,090 --> 00:10:39,240 him? 179 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:41,490 John C Dvorak: I don't know. I don't have his name but you can 180 00:10:41,490 --> 00:10:44,220 look him up but the budget is pretty good. I've 181 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:45,180 Adam Curry: seen her before is very 182 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:47,400 John C Dvorak: good. I have a clip after this clip. Okay, but 183 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,220 let's say this is Bill Maher the end of democracy to try she 184 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:53,190 tries to explain to him that it's a joke. Oh goodness. And 185 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:58,140 Maher is like really like Well, I'm not sure thoughts 186 00:10:58,140 --> 00:11:04,350 Unknown: it's very bill that was a joke about Trump making a joke 187 00:11:04,350 --> 00:11:08,040 about being a dictator day one in office that is an ironic take 188 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:08,190 on 189 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:11,190 how the Liberals That was my question Am I missing the irony 190 00:11:11,190 --> 00:11:12,090 conservatives I 191 00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:15,240 think so. Yes. Joke really? Yeah. And I think more I mean 192 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,400 more to you bail into a job Jack. 193 00:11:22,770 --> 00:11:26,070 Adam Curry: Okay, so he tries to save it with with this quip. 194 00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:32,940 quip this lousy is just poor showmanship and poor television 195 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:38,700 midship and he should be ashamed of himself for just blatantly 196 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:42,630 walking into the studio ready to go. What am I what am I jokes 197 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:46,470 he's not he's he's phoning it in is what he's doing. Because 198 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:49,500 John C Dvorak: it wasn't a panel probe or whatever his name is 199 00:11:49,650 --> 00:11:53,550 just standing there. You know, trying to kill time so had 200 00:11:53,550 --> 00:11:56,430 nothing to do with anything. Meanwhile, Maura Yeah, you're 201 00:11:56,430 --> 00:12:01,740 right. He phoned it in here's batty as she shows up on on 202 00:12:01,740 --> 00:12:07,590 bandit Banyan show. Oh, the War Room. Oh, to talk about this. A 203 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:08,160 little bit. 204 00:12:08,190 --> 00:12:10,260 Adam Curry: Wait a minute. This. This is now a topic of 205 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:11,010 discussion. 206 00:12:11,610 --> 00:12:14,640 John C Dvorak: Here. What goodness Maurice? Screw up the 207 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:15,720 topic. Oh, wow. I'm 208 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,390 Adam Curry: glad we have time on our hands. And we knew about 209 00:12:18,390 --> 00:12:20,010 being on there. Well, 210 00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:23,070 Unknown: I'm I'm very, very grateful to bill for having me 211 00:12:23,070 --> 00:12:27,630 because even though I am on the left, I can't get onto liberal 212 00:12:27,630 --> 00:12:31,740 shows. Because it's kind of like that scene in Monty Python where 213 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:34,200 they're like, hey, we want to join you. And they were like, 214 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,230 well, how much do you hate the Romans and he goes a lot. And 215 00:12:37,230 --> 00:12:39,600 they're like, right, you're in? It's the same thing with Trump. 216 00:12:39,630 --> 00:12:43,170 If you don't hate Trump, they will not let you on even if you 217 00:12:43,170 --> 00:12:46,080 want to tell them. Hey, here's how the Democrats could get the 218 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,970 working class back. They don't want to hear it. 219 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:52,380 John C Dvorak: So that was the point. Well, and that's good. I 220 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:57,390 mean, she you have to be a hater. Yes, yes. To get into 221 00:12:57,390 --> 00:12:59,910 these gigs, and she's like irk because she doesn't get booked 222 00:12:59,910 --> 00:13:02,730 on anything. And she's very personable. She's quite funny. 223 00:13:02,730 --> 00:13:04,740 She goes on and on about a bunch of things. I could have played 224 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:11,160 more clips of her. Yeah, because she's good. But she is worried 225 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,300 about the Democrats being off to lunch. I had 226 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:20,580 Adam Curry: a supercut somewhere I see on this this. Let me just 227 00:13:20,580 --> 00:13:25,680 see if it was I think it was super cut. Super cut super cut. 228 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:33,150 I'll find it. But the hate is strong. It's real. It's really 229 00:13:33,150 --> 00:13:42,210 it's quite. It's quite insane. Um, I have a I have MSNBC from 230 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:44,340 Super Tuesday, a couple of clips. 231 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,580 John C Dvorak: If you want to laugh. Yeah, I was gonna get 232 00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:48,540 these. These are funny. 233 00:13:48,570 --> 00:13:49,620 Adam Curry: Here's Rachel Maddow. 234 00:13:49,650 --> 00:13:51,600 Unknown: Remarks I've just started for for President Donald 235 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,070 Trump. Let's, let's 236 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:56,220 let's listen in. Nobody thought a thing like this would be 237 00:13:56,220 --> 00:14:01,380 possible. We wouldn't have Russia attacking Ukraine, we 238 00:14:01,380 --> 00:14:05,370 wouldn't have Israel being attacked. Iran, as you know, was 239 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:08,370 broke. When I was running things. They were broke. They 240 00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:10,650 didn't have money for Hamas. They didn't have money for 241 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:15,750 Hezbollah. We had no inflation. Inflation is destroying the 242 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:19,680 middle class. It's destroying everything inflation. If you 243 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,710 look back over the history hundreds of years back it's 244 00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:26,460 called inflation. It's called a country buster. And that's what 245 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:29,010 it's doing to our country. What's happened with inflation 246 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:33,180 has been unbelievable. A lot of people say a lot of experts have 247 00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:35,700 said the stock market's The only thing that's doing well, and 248 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:39,330 that's doing well because our poll numbers are so much higher 249 00:14:39,330 --> 00:14:40,590 than it should. 250 00:14:43,410 --> 00:14:47,130 Adam Curry: Okay, so I'll just do a couple of quick Trump clips 251 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:49,380 and then we'll have Matt Oh, come back. And Chris Of course, 252 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:51,090 yes to interrupt. Here he is on the border. 253 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,340 Unknown: We had the safest border, the best numbers we've 254 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:56,760 ever had. And now we have the worst numbers probably. Probably 255 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,900 in the history of the world. It's sad To see what's happening 256 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:04,920 to our cities, our cities are being overrun with migrant 257 00:15:05,130 --> 00:15:10,500 crime. And that's Biden migrant crime. But it's a new category 258 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:11,940 of crime and it's violent. 259 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:15,180 Adam Curry: It's a new category Biden migrant crime, where they 260 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:16,080 stand in 261 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,910 Unknown: the middle of the street and have fistfights with 262 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:20,640 police officers. And if they did that in their countries from 263 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,170 where they came, they'd be killed instantly, instantly 264 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,340 promised they wouldn't do that. So the world is laughing at us, 265 00:15:29,340 --> 00:15:31,380 the world is taking advantage of us. 266 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,050 Adam Curry: Well, no, the world is laughing. The world has the 267 00:15:34,050 --> 00:15:36,840 exact same problems. Here he is on our energy independence. 268 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:37,140 Three 269 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:39,720 Unknown: years ago, we were at a level we were an energy 270 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,510 independent, we're going to be very shortly energy dominant. 271 00:15:42,510 --> 00:15:46,470 And today we're getting oil from Venezuela. Can you believe it? 272 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:51,660 And we're doing numbers on that oil. You know, what we're doing? 273 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:55,890 We're refining the oil. We have a refinery for that. Well, it's 274 00:15:55,890 --> 00:15:59,550 truly I call it tar. It's not oil is terrible. We have real 275 00:15:59,550 --> 00:16:00,630 stuff. Why 276 00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:03,840 Adam Curry: is he saying we're refining the Venezuelan oil, 277 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,830 which is tar? 278 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:06,300 John C Dvorak: That's what he said. 279 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:08,400 Adam Curry: Is that true? I mean, you know a lot about this 280 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,210 John C Dvorak: stuff. But the Venezuelan crude, I'm not sure 281 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:16,440 really thick tar? It's well, it would it would be a heavy style, 282 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:19,770 heavy crude as possible. I don't know. I'd have to look it up. 283 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,070 Let's 284 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:22,440 Adam Curry: now this is where this is where it just starts 285 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:25,140 Eric Rachel, because now he's talking about a fair and free 286 00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:25,530 press, 287 00:16:25,530 --> 00:16:28,740 Unknown: we need a fair and free press. The press has not been 288 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:32,970 fair, nor has it been free. But maybe someday they will be 289 00:16:32,970 --> 00:16:36,150 they're being beaten up pretty badly. People aren't trusting 290 00:16:36,150 --> 00:16:39,450 them. They're not believing them. And really, it's a very 291 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,310 important factor. The Press used to be the policeman, it used to 292 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:48,630 police our country. Now nobody has confidence in them. And we 293 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:51,420 have to get that confidence back. It's so important for the 294 00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:54,060 success of our country. So 295 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:57,420 important. Yes. All right. Here we go read an article 296 00:16:57,420 --> 00:17:01,110 yesterday where it said this is one of the finest run campaigns 297 00:17:01,110 --> 00:17:05,280 that anybody has ever seen. That's pretty good. Right? So 298 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,980 get in there. Get 299 00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:19,979 November, you know, it's it's, it is. Okay. I will say that it 300 00:17:19,979 --> 00:17:24,059 is a decision that we revisit constantly in terms of the 301 00:17:24,059 --> 00:17:29,759 balance between allowing somebody to knowingly lie on 302 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:32,699 your air about things they've lied about before, and you can 303 00:17:32,699 --> 00:17:35,249 predict they're going to lie about and so therefore it is. 304 00:17:36,269 --> 00:17:39,089 It's irresponsible to allow them to do that to responsibly 305 00:17:39,089 --> 00:17:42,899 balance between knowing that that's irresponsible to 306 00:17:42,899 --> 00:17:48,839 broadcast, and also knowing that as the de facto soon to be de 307 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:53,429 facto nominee of the Republican Party. This is not only the man 308 00:17:53,429 --> 00:17:55,229 who is likely to be the Republican candidate for 309 00:17:55,229 --> 00:17:57,959 president, but this is the way he's running. So 310 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,300 Adam Curry: then sitting on the panel, but wait, 311 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:03,360 John C Dvorak: wait, yes. Did she say specifically what what 312 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:05,910 was the lies? He's just generalized? Well, 313 00:18:05,940 --> 00:18:08,700 Adam Curry: because now we go over to the panelists next to 314 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:13,140 her. The favorite of the trading floor boys over there at Goldman 315 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:18,720 Sachs, Stephanie rule. She didn't go to J school. Ah, she 316 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,650 was a trader. And then she rose through the ranks at Goldman, 317 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:24,690 and show the show fact checking, here's 318 00:18:24,690 --> 00:18:27,180 Unknown: how to balance it. Why don't we fact check the hell out 319 00:18:27,180 --> 00:18:27,900 of him? Yes, 320 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,900 we do that after the fact. And that is the best remedy that 321 00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:33,630 we've got. It does not fix the fact that we broadcast it, 322 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:36,720 but that he's saying these things and people are hearing 323 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,360 it. Let's just go through it. Right, the most devastating 324 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:42,900 economy, are you kidding me? We had the best economic recovery 325 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:46,080 of any country in the developed world. He's telling an audience 326 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,110 right there, oh, my goodness, that the poultry oil production, 327 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,310 we're producing more oil today than we ever have in the history 328 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:56,190 of our country. Think about the American rescue plan, the 329 00:18:56,190 --> 00:19:00,240 infrastructure plan, we have created more jobs, three 3.2 330 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,020 million more jobs than we had pre pandemic. The problem that 331 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:07,890 we do have is inflation. And so what Donald Trump does is 332 00:19:07,890 --> 00:19:10,710 preying upon the fact that people don't necessarily feel 333 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:12,150 good and life's expensive. 334 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:17,610 Adam Curry: Oh, the horrors he plays on the fact that people 335 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:20,460 don't feel good and life's expensive, but everything else 336 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:22,950 is great. is great. 337 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:27,930 John C Dvorak: What did he did he not set? Did he say that? We 338 00:19:27,930 --> 00:19:32,550 don't have high or production? I mean, what was the lies? But I 339 00:19:32,550 --> 00:19:36,600 mean, you're Ali said, Oh, the only positive the only factual 340 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,630 thing that he referred to as the high inflation. Yeah. And people 341 00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:42,240 don't feel good about things. Yeah, I was aware of the fact 342 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,250 check. You got to fact check him then. But that's 343 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:46,440 Adam Curry: the whole problem. It's like it's he's saying 344 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,550 things that are hitting home, turn him off. That's it. It's so 345 00:19:50,550 --> 00:19:55,260 odd that I think it's obvious to most people. Let's go back to 346 00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:55,830 the 347 00:19:56,610 --> 00:19:58,380 John C Dvorak: before we continue though, there's a 348 00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:01,050 couple other things along this this line I want to say at least 349 00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:06,450 discuss. So I got an article I sent it to you to put in the 350 00:20:06,450 --> 00:20:11,130 show notes is written by a writer in the UK called Andrew 351 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,950 or Loski, who wrote for the spike he writes for The 352 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:19,380 Telegraph. And he goes on about how the BBC and these people in 353 00:20:19,410 --> 00:20:25,260 in Europe, especially in England, are, are pre excusing 354 00:20:25,260 --> 00:20:30,420 Trump's victory. Yes, yes, exactly. Dan. So they're coming 355 00:20:30,420 --> 00:20:34,440 up with it's like pre crime. Yeah. And it's gonna be all 356 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,080 about misinformation and disinformation. And they're 357 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,140 gonna go on and on about it. And he cited an example which are 358 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:43,680 these photos. I guess I have not seen him until I read his 359 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,600 article. I have a club. Acts of Trump with black people that 360 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,110 have been all part of AI pictures. Yes. 361 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:53,070 Adam Curry: I have a clip here. How 362 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:54,120 John C Dvorak: long have you seen these? 363 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:58,890 Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Well, this is this is part of the I 364 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:02,190 think it's part of the Swift up because they're also now saying 365 00:21:02,580 --> 00:21:11,610 that Russia, here let me get the article for you. Putin plans? 366 00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:15,360 Let me see what who wrote this New York Post. Okay. Putin plans 367 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:19,200 to weaponize deep fake porn against Western democracies, 368 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,520 female leaders. Ah, Swift 369 00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:26,040 John C Dvorak: slave stops we already brought in Swift and 370 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,480 then you say female leader. So I'm I'm already chuckling Yeah. 371 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:30,690 So 372 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:34,950 Adam Curry: here's, here's the here's the girl from the Young 373 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:40,290 Turks who is reading this banner and is reading this this. This 374 00:21:40,290 --> 00:21:42,240 BBC article, AI generated 375 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,990 Unknown: images depicting Donald Trump with excited black 376 00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:49,650 supporters are spreading across the internet like wildfire. 377 00:21:49,890 --> 00:21:54,210 According to a BBC investigation now, since their AI images, 378 00:21:54,210 --> 00:21:56,760 obviously they're not real. They're not authentic. They're 379 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,110 not depicting something that actually happened. And if you're 380 00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:04,200 tempted to believe that Russia or some other nefarious foreign 381 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,310 actor is behind the misleading images, the BBC looked into that 382 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:11,640 and found that American Trump supporters are actually the ones 383 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,130 behind the, you know, dishonest AI images that are spreading. 384 00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:20,400 Adam Curry: Oh, that's your off message, girl. Putin. 385 00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:26,340 John C Dvorak: I know darts off in one direction. I know Hooton 386 00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:31,890 OTEN and then she drifts over to some I can't keep their focus 387 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,130 now 388 00:22:32,130 --> 00:22:35,880 Adam Curry: ever since chunk just went complete nut job that 389 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:42,750 this it's a rudderless ship over there. Now, of course we have we 390 00:22:42,750 --> 00:22:47,010 have more, we have more insane stuff such as the Supreme 391 00:22:47,010 --> 00:22:51,000 Court's decision. Unanimous it was not even a you it was not a 392 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,480 unanimous it was the court decision. Our constitutional 393 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:00,090 lawyer deconstructed it for us. So that's nine, nine to zero, no 394 00:23:00,090 --> 00:23:07,140 dissent that Colorado has or any state has has no right to take 395 00:23:07,140 --> 00:23:11,190 the president off of the ballot. They were very careful, by the 396 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:18,360 way, in what they said. Because the Heritage's they did not 397 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,210 decide whether Trump of course actually engaged in 398 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,200 insurrection. They took a quick little off ramp, a simple one, 399 00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:29,730 and they said hey, states lack the power to use Article Three 400 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,490 against federal officeholders. That's, that's really the whole 401 00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:37,890 thing. Yeah. And of course, it was hilarious to see that the 402 00:23:37,890 --> 00:23:42,540 document that was sent out I guess it was a Word document 403 00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:46,170 where they had track changes, and they forgot to remove those. 404 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,720 So everyone had their panties in a bunch that had to been done on 405 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,890 purpose. Most definitely, because it was definitely not 406 00:23:55,890 --> 00:24:00,600 just so Exactly. So is what I would say. It was Sotomayor who 407 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,760 appeared to have written a dissenting opinion in the in the 408 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,050 document, but that was then that track changes. turned it into 409 00:24:10,770 --> 00:24:13,530 what do you call it? Arc? Harare, I think is the term let 410 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:21,510 me say it's the court. Yes. procure pure curiam There you 411 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:27,030 go. Hey, I speak Latin. Per curiam, ie the whole court 412 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:30,300 decides and there was no dissent but I agree with you I think 413 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:34,290 that was left in there purposely you know, little virtue signal 414 00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:37,620 by Sotomayor someone whoever whoever is doing that stuff, but 415 00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:40,980 here's Joy read, always fun to listen to her opinion on stuff. 416 00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:42,870 Unknown: I do have to go to you first, Melissa, because I'm 417 00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:47,760 sorry, but I don't speak Supreme Court ease. But all I read was 418 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,770 shade, shade and more shade from your former boss, Justice 419 00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:57,540 Sotomayor and her colleagues. They open in their what felt 420 00:24:57,540 --> 00:25:02,190 like more of a dissent honestly than In a good Gertz in which 421 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:05,310 they said y'all did too much. You just had to say states can't 422 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:07,740 afford section three and leave it there. But you had to keep 423 00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:10,950 going. You felt like you had to tell people how to enforce 424 00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:13,590 section three you felt like you had to instruct Congress. Did 425 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:15,180 you read out as shade as I did? 426 00:25:15,870 --> 00:25:19,290 I think it was shade all the way down joy. And more than that. I 427 00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:22,740 think this was nominally a concurrence, but it had real big 428 00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:24,900 D energy big dissent energy. 429 00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:26,820 Adam Curry: Big D. Oh, my 430 00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:27,600 Unknown: God. 431 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:32,730 John C Dvorak: All right, I'm giving you a clip of the day for 432 00:25:32,730 --> 00:25:40,980 kitchen now home. Energy level. Wow, what an asshole. 26 433 00:25:40,980 --> 00:25:43,500 Adam Curry: minutes into the show. We have clip of the day 434 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,140 ladies and gentlemen, does it get any crazier? I mean, I 435 00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:51,630 didn't even clip mica this morning. Oh man, or Joe, who 436 00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:55,200 says this is the most cogent Biden ever I mean, these people 437 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,810 are going nuts. Anyway, 438 00:25:57,810 --> 00:25:59,820 John C Dvorak: I do have a three by three about this since you 439 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:00,240 brought it 440 00:26:02,370 --> 00:26:06,240 Adam Curry: right into a baby experiment by JC D, a three by 441 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,310 three parents don't read from ABC 442 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:16,170 three by three. It's not just an experiment we actually delve in 443 00:26:16,170 --> 00:26:19,860 JCD gets you clips and we check out the big news stories from 444 00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:23,160 the three trustworthy news networks. Yeah, this 445 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:25,530 John C Dvorak: is much of the craziness that you just heard 446 00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:28,080 that you got the Clip of the Day for so let's start with ABC 447 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:31,680 Unknown: tonight for the first time after months of missile 448 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,060 attacks on cargo ships. The Iranian backed Houthis have left 449 00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:39,690 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. That's the wrong ABC clip. This is your 450 00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:40,860 ABC clip for the Supreme 451 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:44,610 Unknown: Court a rare moment of unanimity. All nine justices so 452 00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:48,780 often divided in major cases, declaring as one that individual 453 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:52,050 states cannot ban Donald Trump from the presidential ballot 454 00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:55,020 under the insurrection clause of the Constitutions 14th 455 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:58,140 amendment. The court did not address the issue of whether 456 00:26:58,140 --> 00:27:01,050 Trump actually engaged in insurrection, but declared that 457 00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:04,860 the responsibility for enforcing that Section of the Constitution 458 00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:08,760 rests with Congress and not the states. They 459 00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,300 work long. They're worked hard, and frankly, they work very 460 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:12,870 quickly. 461 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,700 Adam Curry: That will work long, hard but quickly be 462 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,940 Unknown: spoken about 100 years from now and 200 years from now 463 00:27:20,970 --> 00:27:22,230 extremely important best 464 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:25,890 courts in three states Colorado, Maine and Illinois have ruled 465 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:28,230 that Trump should be banned from the ballot because of his 466 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:31,830 actions on January 6 than in the weeks before, under the 14th 467 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:35,730 amendments command that no one who has taken an oath to support 468 00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:39,900 the Constitution and then engaged in insurrection can hold 469 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:43,350 public office afterwards. during oral arguments last month, 470 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:45,990 liberals and conservatives on the court voiced sharp 471 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:48,090 skepticism and what Colorado did 472 00:27:48,150 --> 00:27:51,300 Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, what's going on over there at ABC Sure, 473 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:52,320 skepticism 474 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,170 Unknown: engaged in insurrection can hold public office 475 00:27:55,170 --> 00:27:58,320 afterwards. during oral arguments last month, liberals 476 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,650 and conservatives on the court voiced sharp skepticism of what 477 00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:03,030 Colorado did puke 478 00:28:03,030 --> 00:28:06,330 I think that the question that you have to confront is why a 479 00:28:06,330 --> 00:28:09,420 single state should decide who gets to be President of the 480 00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:10,140 United States. 481 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,710 Today, the justices pointed to the potential disruption that 482 00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:16,680 could happen if some states disqualified Trump and some did 483 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,800 not all using different standards and procedures to 484 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,800 disqualify insurrection as candidates the court ruled 485 00:28:22,890 --> 00:28:27,240 Congress must first pass a law spelling out how justice Amy 486 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,580 Kony Barrett also wrote separately agreeing with the 487 00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:32,130 liberals that the majority went too far but urging her 488 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:36,150 colleagues to turn the national temperature down, not up. Our 489 00:28:36,150 --> 00:28:39,030 differences are far less important than our unanimity 490 00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:42,570 Barrett wrote. All nine justices agree on the outcome of this 491 00:28:42,570 --> 00:28:46,200 case. That is the message all Americans should take home. 492 00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:51,000 Adam Curry: Wow, except for the puking that was reasonably on 493 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040 point. Yeah, thanks. So 494 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,120 John C Dvorak: here's some of the some of the Dana Bash on 495 00:28:57,540 --> 00:29:01,950 MSNBC where she goes on to be a sad day for America that they 496 00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:02,970 did the right thing. 497 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:06,360 Adam Curry: What did you see? I mean, Keith Olbermann, 498 00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:09,780 unfortunately, did right but he didn't have he didn't do any 499 00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:11,070 video. So we 500 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,130 John C Dvorak: know he's, he's been he's gonna do a video 501 00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:17,640 himself. He spits too much on them their screen they've the 502 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,140 lens. It's all speedy. So let's go to NBC 503 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,620 Unknown: tonight the US Supreme Court dealing a final blow to 504 00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:28,830 states trying to ban former President Trump from the ballot. 505 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,640 In a unanimous decision. The justice is effectively leaving 506 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,300 it up to voters to decide if the former president returns no 507 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,810 White House, Mr. Trump preys on today's ruling 508 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,900 the voters can take the person out of the race very quickly. 509 00:29:43,470 --> 00:29:46,170 But a court shouldn't be doing that. The 510 00:29:46,170 --> 00:29:50,010 justice is rejecting a Colorado State Courts ruling Finding Mr. 511 00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:53,790 Trump ineligible to be president under section three of the 14th 512 00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:57,450 Amendment, a largely untested clause of the Constitution 513 00:29:57,660 --> 00:30:00,480 passed after the Civil War, isn't it? completely 514 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,270 Adam Curry: untested Claus has ever been tested. 515 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Unknown: I have no disqualifying those who engage in 516 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,360 insurrection, of course, the public office with Lincoln 517 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,840 elections official in Maine and a judge in Illinois later doing 518 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,410 the same, banning the Republican front runner from the ballot in 519 00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:23,430 those states in light of his actions on January 6, today's 520 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:27,000 ruling from the high court now ending all similar efforts to 521 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,880 disqualify Mr. Trump from the ballot. Well, 522 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,830 most states were thrilled to have me. There were some that 523 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,640 didn't get and they didn't want that for political reasons. The 524 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,880 justices today saying that patchwork of different rulings 525 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,840 across the country cannot stand finding responsibility for 526 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,620 enforcing section three against federal office holders and 527 00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:53,700 candidates rests with Congress and not the states. I've got to 528 00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,660 say boring read. But at the same time, the three liberal justices 529 00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:01,320 accusing their Conservative colleagues of going too far to 530 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,550 find ruling Congress must enact new legislation in order to ban 531 00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:06,720 a presidential candidate. 532 00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:08,820 Adam Curry: Why is that too far? I don't understand. I mean, 533 00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:12,990 that's why is that too far? Why is it too far to have Congress? 534 00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:16,080 Do that? I mean, isn't that exactly what the Supreme Court 535 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,110 said? Why is that going too far? I don't know. It's confusing 536 00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:21,780 Unknown: the way she represented ating. This ruling will make it 537 00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:25,680 harder to bar and oath breaking insurrectionists from becoming 538 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,650 president, you forgot rapists conservative justice Barrett 539 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:31,410 cautioning this Court should turn the national temperature 540 00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:33,750 down. Not up. Thank 541 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:38,490 Adam Curry: you, Barrett. All right. Boring, boring. Read NBC 542 00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:41,790 in trouble as far as I'm concerned. That's not me. She's 543 00:31:41,790 --> 00:31:44,400 John C Dvorak: got Yeah, that's reporting that's factual and 544 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,820 it's boring. That was pretty bad. Yeah, that was a bad. A bad 545 00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:48,270 report how 546 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:52,410 Adam Curry: to do now that the pixie girl you know, there 547 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,110 John C Dvorak: are no let's see. A 548 00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:58,230 Unknown: crucial decision today with sweeping political 549 00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:01,890 consequences sweep High Court ruling that former President 550 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:06,150 Donald Trump cannot be removed from Colorado's ballot due to 551 00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:09,390 the state courts view that he stoped the January 6 552 00:32:09,390 --> 00:32:10,680 insurrection. You 553 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,400 cannot take somebody out of a race. The voters can take the 554 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,330 person out of the race very quickly. But a court shouldn't 555 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:19,680 be doing that. With this 556 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,550 ruling. Two other states also had their efforts to remove the 557 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:27,510 former president stole three justices in a separate 558 00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:31,080 concurring opinion set allowing the Colorado measure to go 559 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,330 forward. Would we agree create a chaotic state by state patchwork 560 00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:41,160 amid a tense political landscape justice Amy Coney Barrett also 561 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:45,030 urged Americans to see unity from the unanimous decision sold 562 00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:48,660 handwriting in this circumstance writings on the court should 563 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:52,980 turn the national temperature down. Not up. Colorado's 564 00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:56,310 democratic Secretary of State offered sharp criticism of the 565 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:56,940 decision. 566 00:32:57,060 --> 00:32:59,190 I do believe states should 567 00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:02,370 Adam Curry: be able under our this woman did you see her eyes? 568 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,360 Oh, she's 569 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,830 John C Dvorak: a psycho vision. 570 00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:08,010 Unknown: I do believe that states should be able under our 571 00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:11,550 constitution to bar oath breaking insurrectionists the 572 00:33:11,550 --> 00:33:12,420 ruling comes 573 00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:15,360 Adam Curry: a day before this is now the mean oath breaking into 574 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,890 elections breaking oath breaking that she forgot rapist tuition 575 00:33:19,890 --> 00:33:22,260 Unknown: to bar oath breaking insurrectionist 576 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,860 the ruling comes a day before Super Tuesday the biggest 577 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:29,850 primary election day of the season, when voters in 15 states 578 00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:34,140 including Colorado head to the polls, and Trump's legal hurdles 579 00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:38,310 continue to pile up as the Supreme Court weighs another 580 00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:39,780 decision next month. 581 00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:44,040 I hope that the justices because they'll be working on some other 582 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,910 cases, but one in particular, presidents have to be given 583 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:52,080 total immunity. They have to be allowed to do their job. 584 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,430 Later this month. Trump will also spend six weeks in court 585 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,700 where He is charged with falsifying business records 586 00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:02,820 related to hush money payments to a porn star. 587 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:10,290 Adam Curry: God Okay. Since that was so boring, not your not your 588 00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:11,460 fault. Yeah. Be 589 00:34:11,490 --> 00:34:14,910 John C Dvorak: the little point in there that CBS says they tee 590 00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:18,450 the ball up for the next round. Of course, the immunity case. 591 00:34:19,110 --> 00:34:23,160 Network did not do and Dershowitz who comes on every 592 00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:26,250 show he can get on and the right wing shows now almost 593 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:30,300 exclusively in fact, exclusively Yeah. As I said, I you know, he 594 00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:33,930 comes on his spikes. I don't have these clips. He spikes the 595 00:34:33,930 --> 00:34:37,140 ball said I predicted nine to nothing. I mean, he's he's 596 00:34:37,140 --> 00:34:40,440 getting really with his new podcast. He's getting care. He's 597 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,310 getting the decoding of personality. Dersch test is the 598 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:48,240 Dersch leadership does show their hands so he spikes the 599 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:53,130 ball. And then he says and then I believe that it will be a 63 600 00:34:53,130 --> 00:34:56,040 and the next one and which I think he's right, because 601 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,970 they're going to because these, these liberal judges have felt 602 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,300 You're getting flak when you do anything, you know, they don't 603 00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:07,290 they get pushed around a lot and so they're gonna probably go 604 00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:10,230 against immunity thing, which is again is 605 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:12,960 Adam Curry: stupid because immediately everyone goes to 606 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,880 jail. Everybody 607 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,550 John C Dvorak: goes to jail. Yeah, I would say if they're 608 00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:19,620 they better start thinking about and somebody's gonna have to 609 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:23,790 start bringing this up besides me. Which Obama? Yeah, there we 610 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:30,270 go is the guy who's killed four Americans extra dude judicial 611 00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:35,580 murder of four different Americans he would be he should 612 00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:39,000 go to jail you should be definitely go to jail and 613 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,400 there's other examples that people use but no one wants to 614 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,720 bring up this Obama one 615 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:48,900 Adam Curry: down with that we got two words for Predator 616 00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:57,030 drones I don't know where that came from okay. There was let's 617 00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:00,480 just do some elections. I know you have a report. It was super 618 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Tuesday in the United States where everybody goes and votes 619 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:11,040 for the local elections and, and some primary stuff. But we had 620 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,390 some fun. That was fun. Certainly in North Carolina, the 621 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:15,780 North 622 00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:18,000 Unknown: Carolina race for the governor's mansion is going to 623 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,570 be among the most competitive. And now CNN is projecting that 624 00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:24,690 the Republican candidate in that race is going to be lieutenant 625 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:26,310 governor, Mark Robinson, 626 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:29,760 a favorite among evangelicals becoming the first black 627 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,220 gubernatorial nominee in North Carolina. 628 00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:35,790 Those who want to go into the mud, feel free. Where we're 629 00:36:35,790 --> 00:36:38,790 going is we're going towards the substantive issues and all North 630 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:40,020 Carolinians face 631 00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:43,440 Adam Curry: this guy. Did you see this guy? Oh, I've 632 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,360 John C Dvorak: been watching this guy for a month here I got 633 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,060 a super cut short he's got some great material. 634 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:52,500 Unknown: He does a but to gender saying that men and women 635 00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:54,930 are mentally not women. 636 00:36:55,020 --> 00:37:01,440 Oh to be led by men when it was time to face down the last sit, 637 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:09,240 David, not DeVito there's no reason anybody anywhere in 638 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:16,620 America should be telling about transgenderism homosexuality in 639 00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:20,100 that field. And yes, I called it Phil we could pass it mill so 640 00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,410 you can't have an abortion in North Carolina for any reason. 641 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,770 He says the civil rights movement in the 1960s was quote 642 00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:29,040 crap, and that Martin Luther King was a communist Robinson 643 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,360 posted the movie Black Panther was quote created by an agnostic 644 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,500 Jew to pull the shackles out of your sports to pocket using the 645 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:40,140 in his words for money and black. He referred to the 646 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:43,260 victims of the Parkland School shooting as spoiled little 647 00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:46,800 bastard. He says the moon landing in 1969 may have been 648 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,510 fake. He also says there is a secret Ruling Cabal that is part 649 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:52,500 reptile and 650 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,360 said that Beyonce is satanic. 651 00:37:55,170 --> 00:37:56,640 mack daddy Yeah. 652 00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:01,740 John C Dvorak: Well, they did. Cut they left out the funniest 653 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:05,790 bit he goes into a reparations. Oh, I don't have that one. Oh, 654 00:38:05,790 --> 00:38:08,490 the reparations thing he says Black should be paying 655 00:38:08,490 --> 00:38:14,790 reparations to white. And his rationale is, is really 656 00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:15,570 interesting. 657 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,530 Adam Curry: Man. I'm doing a show with Moe next week. Maybe 658 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:22,050 we can get into it. I'd love to hear his take on that. 659 00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:25,260 John C Dvorak: All right. Yeah, but you're gonna be a big fan of 660 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,770 that guy. Oh, this is fantastic. Of course because of the moon 661 00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:29,400 landing just 662 00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:32,040 Adam Curry: just for the moon landing alone. I came for the 663 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,930 moon landing and stayed for the two agendas event. And 664 00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:42,180 meanwhile, Rolling Stone trying to amp it up a bit. to coin a 665 00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:47,520 phrase headline exclusive due to Trump's White House was awash in 666 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,110 speed and Xanax. Under Trump, the White House medical unit was 667 00:38:52,110 --> 00:38:56,070 like the Wild West and staffers had easy access to powerful 668 00:38:56,070 --> 00:39:00,510 stimulants and sedatives. Sources tell Rollingstone you 669 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:04,830 know what, I think all of Washington DC has access to 670 00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:11,430 powerful stimulants and and sedatives they're all on drugs. 671 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:15,330 Yeah, of course they are all of them all of them. 672 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,270 John C Dvorak: I don't get the point of this Rolling Stone 673 00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:23,400 piece. Well are they trained did make it do lessen the blow about 674 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,950 Hunter No, no, no Joe gets yes shot up just before the 675 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,180 interesting today. Yeah, but 676 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,120 Adam Curry: you're saying being yourself. Exactly. Because you 677 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:42,150 know Joe's gonna get all jacked up tonight. Man Well, if it's if 678 00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:45,210 it's the real Joe we don't even know we don't even know if the 679 00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:52,080 real Joe the more politics here Big Mike says No way Jose 680 00:39:52,110 --> 00:39:54,240 Unknown: former First Lady Michelle Obama once again 681 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,700 shutting down speculation about whether she would jump into the 682 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,760 race for president if needed. The former first lady making a 683 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,850 claim As she has before she supports President Biden and 684 00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:05,640 vice president Harris and will not be running for president. 685 00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:08,250 Her spokesperson says she's expected to act as a campaign 686 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:11,280 surrogate for President Biden and vice president Harris. 687 00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:14,790 Adam Curry: Yeah. And I tried to register Big Mike 688 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:19,350 2020 eight.com. And that was already taken. So I feel gypped 689 00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:19,710 I feel 690 00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:21,570 John C Dvorak: sorry by one of our producers, 691 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,780 Adam Curry: no doubt. No doubt. So I'll tell you my experience 692 00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:28,290 here. 693 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:32,910 John C Dvorak: What I'm voting because you do have a bit Nikki 694 00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:35,940 Haley quitting clip, which is part of two Super Tuesday and I 695 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:40,920 still have my yes my that's why I'm discussion of the I voted on 696 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,940 a Dominion machine. 697 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:45,030 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, let's do your Nikki Haley quits poorly. 698 00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:48,660 And then I have two quick Nikki Haley crowd responses as 699 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:51,660 Unknown: Nikki Haley drops out without endorsing former 700 00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:55,860 President Trump. Both Trump and Biden are now courting Haley's 701 00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:59,700 voters. Trump has also challenged Biden to a debate 702 00:40:59,910 --> 00:41:02,940 anytime and anywhere. And today's White House 703 00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:06,450 correspondent Iris Tao has more already. Both 704 00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:10,140 Trump and Biden are now directly asking Nikki Haley supporters to 705 00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:13,290 join their camps, though their messaging is quite different 706 00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:16,650 from while saying that Biden is the enemy and that he's inviting 707 00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:20,160 on Nikki Haley supporters to join the Maga movement also 708 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,430 criticized Nikki Haley saying she trounced on Super Tuesday 709 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:26,430 and then a lot of her supporters and donors were actually 710 00:41:26,490 --> 00:41:29,850 Democrats. And President Biden, meanwhile, praised Nikki Haley 711 00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:31,350 and Wednesday seem insane. 712 00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:34,560 She was willing to speak their truth about Donald Trump, 713 00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:38,070 adding that Nikki Haley supporters have a place in his 714 00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:41,490 campaign. Meanwhile, both Trump and Biden's appeal came after 715 00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:44,460 Nikki Haley on Wednesday morning, dropped out of the race 716 00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:47,730 and congratulated Trump but stopped short of actually 717 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:50,250 endorsing him know what Nikki Haley was saying, watch. 718 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,510 I congratulate him. It is now up to Donald Trump to earn the 719 00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:58,170 votes of those in our party and beyond it who did not support 720 00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:03,210 him. And I hope he does that. Yeah, of course, 721 00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:07,470 Adam Curry: of course you only suspended her campaign. Now we 722 00:42:07,470 --> 00:42:10,770 know what it really means. But just in case, just in case he 723 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:15,630 gets convicted, then she can pop back up. I have two crowd 724 00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:20,130 responses, one from Fox and one from NBC. Here's Fox. NBC 725 00:42:20,130 --> 00:42:22,920 Unknown: just reported that Michelle Obama has said she will 726 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,530 not run for president. Thank God. Yes. He said I would love 727 00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:31,830 the reaction from from a woman in the crowd and 728 00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:36,180 vote for a woman. And especially you know, Nikki Haley, I'm just 729 00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:39,570 gonna say this. She's probably menopausal. We don't need that. 730 00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:44,220 For people, regardless of their gender, just the right person 731 00:42:44,220 --> 00:42:46,380 for the job for America. Hello. 732 00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:50,070 Adam Curry: She's probably menopausal. We don't need that. 733 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,040 Okay. Here's NBC. 734 00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:54,810 Unknown: Do you think Nikki Haley, did you ever consider 735 00:42:54,810 --> 00:42:55,080 her? 736 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,060 So you don't really want to put it on? Let me hear it. Good 737 00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:06,540 presidents. You have no balls to Scratch. Scratch your head all 738 00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:10,560 woman's Good for him. My book is having babies and taking care of 739 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,890 the house. And that's that's the old thing. But you never even 740 00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:20,010 considered her? No. Because mainly because she's a woman 741 00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:23,610 because she's female. I mean, females don't get me wrong, 742 00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:25,830 females know what they're doing. But they still gotta have a 743 00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:26,910 little bit of guidance. 744 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,390 John C Dvorak: So this is the classic big networks. Let's find 745 00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:38,280 a guy with a southern accent. Beautiful, and maybe even give 746 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,310 him a script to read as long as he talks like this and sounds 747 00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:43,560 real stupid. He's good. 748 00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:46,170 Adam Curry: He's good. He's good. Oh, do have did i Oh, I 749 00:43:46,170 --> 00:43:49,020 have a mashup of a mashup of her dropping out of the race on the 750 00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:50,160 ABC the view the 751 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,900 Unknown: time has now come to suspend my campaign. I said I 752 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:58,860 wanted Americans to have their voices heard. I have done that. 753 00:43:59,550 --> 00:44:03,240 I have no regrets. In all likelihood Donald Trump will be 754 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:07,200 the Republican nominee when our party convention meets in July. 755 00:44:07,770 --> 00:44:12,120 I congratulate him and wish him well. It is now up to Donald 756 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,600 Trump to earn the votes of those in our party and beyond it who 757 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,680 did not support him. And I hope he does that. Sorry. 758 00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:23,130 Adam Curry: Didn't mean to bum everybody up. Okay. All right. 759 00:44:23,130 --> 00:44:27,600 So I'll tell you my experience. We didn't we Gillespie County is 760 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,360 a hand vote County. Yeah. And it was here right around the corner 761 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,190 from us at this little place called I think the Knitting 762 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:40,200 Factory where people buy yarn. And they had some classic cars 763 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,420 outside. And believe it or not, we also had a sheriff election 764 00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:50,670 here and it's now turned into a runoff. And Chris Ayala is one 765 00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:56,130 of the one of the candidates and Laura Logan's husband was in one 766 00:44:56,130 --> 00:45:00,750 of those. Those like long tube costume You know, like the the 767 00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:04,560 ones that the car dealers have that, you know, flop up and down 768 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,990 with the air and the big giant thing was you got the blower at 769 00:45:06,990 --> 00:45:13,080 the bottom, and he was in it with his head popping out. For 770 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:15,270 crusade, Allah is a sheriff. 771 00:45:16,379 --> 00:45:18,629 John C Dvorak: And it was at a lectionary was that anywhere 772 00:45:18,629 --> 00:45:20,309 near the voting site? 100. 773 00:45:20,310 --> 00:45:23,670 Adam Curry: It's 150 feet, I think, away from it. So he was 774 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:26,550 on the street. Yeah. Now there were people in lawn chairs. And 775 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,570 that's why the classic cars ones for this one for that. And it 776 00:45:30,570 --> 00:45:36,240 was it was very, very low key. What was fascinating. Was there 777 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:39,510 were all these propositions, which are not proposition, you 778 00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:43,110 know, it's just advice. It's not like you're actually voting on 779 00:45:43,110 --> 00:45:47,640 something, but it was cool stuff like, Should Texas abolish all 780 00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:50,730 real estate tax without increasing any other tax? Like, 781 00:45:50,730 --> 00:45:52,950 Yep, yeah, I'll cross that box. 782 00:45:55,350 --> 00:45:57,870 John C Dvorak: To get on the ballot, shall we? Should 783 00:45:57,870 --> 00:46:00,570 Adam Curry: we arrest all illegal immigrants, I'll go 784 00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:05,640 cross that one off. So it was pretty good. And it took until 785 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:08,910 Wednesday morning for for the votes to be counted in Gillespie 786 00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:13,440 County, as it was, as it was hand count, but at least 787 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,950 everyone felt like their votes were counted. And so it was a it 788 00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:21,660 was a nice, wholesome, old school voting experience. And 789 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,300 you in California, where was it being held? But it was at a 790 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:25,290 school and 791 00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,730 John C Dvorak: some near the library? Okay. It was an off 792 00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:33,330 there's a room off there was a community rec room or something. 793 00:46:34,050 --> 00:46:36,180 And it was you know, you go there's nobody there. I mean, 794 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:40,380 there's maybe I mean, I went to in the afternoon, so it wasn't 795 00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:42,960 gonna be a lot of people. And I was the guy there they go 796 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,540 through this process of this and that and they never asked for 797 00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:49,080 voter ID. Did they ask for a voter ID there? Yeah, 798 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:52,140 Adam Curry: well, of course, we have to show our our driver's 799 00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:52,980 license Absolutely. 800 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:54,030 John C Dvorak: No, no, here. 801 00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:57,570 Unknown: 00. 802 00:46:58,710 --> 00:47:00,750 John C Dvorak: What's your address? And here it is, is this 803 00:47:00,750 --> 00:47:03,510 you? And they flip it over and they get this little computer 804 00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:07,740 little lap? Like a tablet computer? They keep flipping it 805 00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:10,350 over that he's right on something and he flips it over 806 00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:13,890 and you can look at the screen flips over? And what was 807 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,250 Adam Curry: the screen? What was on the screen? It was like 808 00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:19,320 John C Dvorak: Is this you and it had your name and address and 809 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,810 you had to check a box? Yes, this is me. And then you had to 810 00:47:21,810 --> 00:47:25,800 sign it. But you signed it with a you know, like, I don't know 811 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,040 if people have noticed this. But at the grocery store nowadays, 812 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,220 they're always want you to sign on the little screen that was 813 00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:37,080 Adam Curry: their little button to tip 20% or 25%. So the 814 00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:39,600 John C Dvorak: you know, if you notice that if you go to the 815 00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:43,560 grocery store, and you have this sign, you can put an X so you 816 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,840 can do a scribble. Yeah. And signature except that it always 817 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,230 says that what you do is same with this, because there was a 818 00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:55,350 little section there and they give you a rubber pan. And you 819 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,220 tried signing my name and it was just a couple of Bob's there 820 00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:00,990 Adam Curry: since we've been doing the show so long do you 821 00:48:00,990 --> 00:48:04,890 remember we had the report that some guy got busted because he 822 00:48:04,890 --> 00:48:06,930 was signing it by drawing penises? 823 00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:10,710 John C Dvorak: I don't remember that. But okay. Like, that's 824 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:14,940 what I look and look like. So I signed and nothing was terrible 825 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:17,280 because I didn't put the right pressure on something the person 826 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,520 next to me that there's two of these. And she signed Anders is 827 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,070 the big flourishing signature over the screen. I didn't 828 00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:26,550 realize it full screen was hot, but okay, so it didn't didn't 829 00:48:26,550 --> 00:48:29,790 matter. And the guy says you want to go to the paper ballot 830 00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:33,420 or do you want to go to the machine? He says the machine is 831 00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:34,350 really cool. 832 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,740 Adam Curry: Oh, he Oh, he was prompting nudging you, nudging 833 00:48:37,740 --> 00:48:38,940 you towards the machine? 834 00:48:39,390 --> 00:48:41,310 John C Dvorak: Well, I was gonna go for the machine anyway. But 835 00:48:41,310 --> 00:48:44,820 yes, he did kind of, but it was it was like, you know, it's 836 00:48:44,820 --> 00:48:49,320 faster he mentioned. So I go to the machine and it's a machine. 837 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,130 It was a big screen is very nice. I have to say because 838 00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:56,820 they've had admin screens in the past and know that it said the 839 00:48:56,820 --> 00:49:00,960 bottom Dominion systems, I said, i Great i get to use, I get to 840 00:49:00,990 --> 00:49:07,020 be at firsthand experience. So I go in and it's gorgeous screen, 841 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:11,460 very slick. And so you're supposed to vote in California. 842 00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:15,030 There's you know, they they have state that US senator is going 843 00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:20,190 to be Adam Schiff versus Steve Garvey versus Katey Porter, the 844 00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:23,880 big three and then there's like 50 other people on the ballot. 845 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:28,050 So I'm looking I swear that I went through that whole screen 846 00:49:28,050 --> 00:49:31,950 looking for Steve Garvey's name because I'm voting for him and 847 00:49:32,490 --> 00:49:35,370 not voted for Adam Schiff and I when I went away free should 848 00:49:35,370 --> 00:49:38,940 mention that when I go in, I'm an independent non affiliated so 849 00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:42,150 I get to choice of three different ballots. I get to an 850 00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:45,720 independent ballot, some other ballot peace and freedom or 851 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,260 something and Democrat, so I picked Democrat, the Republicans 852 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,110 do not allow this if you want to vote on the Republican primary, 853 00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:53,850 you have to be registered. We'll 854 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:57,870 Adam Curry: just stop you for a second. So So we went and and 855 00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:00,450 they said there's only one ballot said Do you mean? Well, 856 00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:03,120 there's only this only Republican ballot. I said, but 857 00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:05,340 Mr. Independent, no, there's only one ballot if you want to 858 00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:08,970 vote Democrat. If you want to vote in the Democrat ballot, you 859 00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:13,860 have to go to San Antonio. Watch. Yeah, this is weird. This 860 00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:15,120 is weird. But 861 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,800 John C Dvorak: that's a bit much. Yeah. 862 00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:18,120 Adam Curry: I thought I 863 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,950 John C Dvorak: gave me the register. They gave me the 864 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:22,830 choice. I did this. I've gone through this before. So I always 865 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:26,340 picked the Democrat ballot. I think it's funny. So I go in 866 00:50:26,340 --> 00:50:29,160 there, I voted for Steve Garvey. But I'm telling you the first 867 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,530 time we went through the list, I could not find his name. I went 868 00:50:31,530 --> 00:50:34,260 through the list the second time I could not find his name. The 869 00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:37,800 third time I went through the list, you scroll up and down is 870 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,220 how big this list is. Oh, there he is not used. So I don't know 871 00:50:41,220 --> 00:50:42,840 if he was even on it with a wheel 872 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,240 Adam Curry: or is it touchscreen or 100 Green touchscreen. 873 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,710 John C Dvorak: So you flip it up and down. And so I finally found 874 00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:52,800 him and there he was I vote and then he had to vote twice for 875 00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:57,480 Steve Garvey. Because there is a replacement Senator that's going 876 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,650 to be in for a couple of months, and there's the six year one. So 877 00:51:01,650 --> 00:51:04,230 then the only and that's why I voted here and there and I voted 878 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:08,400 for Dean Phillips for presidents that have Biden, and whatever 879 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,480 that guy's name was Jean Phillips. Dean Phillips is Dean 880 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,000 Phillips, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but some Dean 881 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,810 somebody some congressman is running against Biden. So then 882 00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:21,210 we went to the propositions of course, and I vote no on 883 00:51:21,210 --> 00:51:24,990 everything that involves money except to prop one because prop 884 00:51:24,990 --> 00:51:29,670 one is our was promoted by everybody starting with Newsom 885 00:51:30,090 --> 00:51:35,610 it's racist. This is a Grich one I've already Yes. reestablishes 886 00:51:35,610 --> 00:51:39,630 the mental health institutions in California. Yes, absolutely. 887 00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:43,950 We're that we're on and at the table, you know, the dining room 888 00:51:43,950 --> 00:51:47,220 table everyplace else it's like, and they promote this idea. 889 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,570 Ronald Reagan shut down the mental health facilities in 890 00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:52,740 California when he was 891 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:55,230 Adam Curry: governor. I was a proposition at the time wasn't 892 00:51:55,230 --> 00:51:57,990 it? wasn't an every No, Greg and just shut it down. shut 893 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:58,500 John C Dvorak: him down. 894 00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:01,620 Adam Curry: Because everyone was bugging him about it. Yeah, the 895 00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:04,680 Democrats. They wanted to shut down exactly the 896 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,110 John C Dvorak: Democrat was here the whole time. And I watched 897 00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:09,570 the whole procedure and it was the new One Flew Over the 898 00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:12,420 Cuckoo's Nest is out and everything in between juicy and 899 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:15,480 it was the Democrats talking about getting rid of the you 900 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,320 know, Reagan didn't care. Get rid of these these places 901 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,970 getting shut them all down. They're 902 00:52:20,970 --> 00:52:23,220 Adam Curry: terrible beginning of the homeless problem in 903 00:52:23,220 --> 00:52:23,790 America. 904 00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:28,080 John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And so 905 00:52:29,490 --> 00:52:32,220 So now they're blaming the whole thing on Reagan, and we have to 906 00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:37,050 re establish it is just too funny. That's, that's anyway, so 907 00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:41,010 then I so when you do the Dominion date, it's got a little 908 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,160 HP printer next to it. And after your votes are done, they go 909 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,620 through a lot of process, you got to confirm this and confirm 910 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:49,140 that and you got to look it over twice, and then you push a 911 00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:55,290 button, and the printer eats it. The printer coughs out a print 912 00:52:55,290 --> 00:53:00,570 out of your votes. And that's it with a barcode on it. And it 913 00:53:00,570 --> 00:53:02,970 says who you voted for. It's got all the votes on there. And then 914 00:53:02,970 --> 00:53:05,580 you take that and you shove it in it and yes, I 915 00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,490 Adam Curry: liked and yeah, and then the Eagles and the sloth 916 00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:10,260 slurps it up. Now 917 00:53:10,260 --> 00:53:12,960 John C Dvorak: the slot is a slot of dishes the box oh, 918 00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:15,870 there's nothing slurping it last time I went there was a slurp 919 00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:20,370 device. Yeah, the slipper. Now this went into a just a box. And 920 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:24,990 then I guess they they pack them up and then slip into a device 921 00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:27,570 that never reads the barcodes with the barcode supposedly has 922 00:53:27,570 --> 00:53:30,300 all the data. Now I would like to have brought my camera I 923 00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,020 didn't. I didn't see any reason why. You can't can't use your 924 00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:37,710 camera in the polling. Who says oh, there's there's signs 925 00:53:37,710 --> 00:53:42,090 everywhere. No phone, no signs that I saw. I was California. So 926 00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:45,810 I could have just printed out that printout and taking a 927 00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:48,360 picture of it. And taking a picture of my screen. I could 928 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,520 have done a lot of photos. Yeah, I didn't do that. But it's looks 929 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:59,190 pretty if it was if it's done fairly. It's a nice product. And 930 00:53:59,190 --> 00:54:02,040 dominion. And what do you think? What 931 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,520 Unknown: are you? Well, I 932 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,770 John C Dvorak: don't know. I have no idea. I mean, California 933 00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:08,100 is you know, most of the votes are now Malin, which is real 934 00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:12,870 corruptible. Yeah. So I have no idea of how they're doing as you 935 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:13,170 get it. 936 00:54:13,170 --> 00:54:14,340 Adam Curry: I Voted sticker 937 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,820 John C Dvorak: to I took two of them. And did you wear one? So I 938 00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:20,250 put not put two of them as I say, and you certainly want to 939 00:54:20,250 --> 00:54:23,640 ask this. I voted twice. So great gag. So I 940 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,220 Adam Curry: had my I Voted sticker and I had a chess game 941 00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:29,700 at a Java ranch here in town. I played chess with this guy on 942 00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:34,050 Tuesdays. And and so the young I'll just call them the young 943 00:54:34,050 --> 00:54:38,730 kids behind the behind the bar the baristas like Hey, Adam, is 944 00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:42,930 there an election today? I'm like, Are you kidding me? Yeah. 945 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,770 And then after that I was walking through HEB. And so a 946 00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:50,820 guy starts was hey, is there voting today? Like yes, it's 947 00:54:50,820 --> 00:54:55,200 super Tuesday. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, where can I vote? It's 948 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,610 amazing. Yeah, I mean, people are just they're completely 949 00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:04,500 ablaze. Previous to what's going on. Yes, totally. It's, that was 950 00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:08,760 somewhat disheartening, actually. Like, oh, man, this is 951 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:15,870 no good. Anyway, voting has occurred and Donald Trump will 952 00:55:15,870 --> 00:55:20,760 be the it'll be Trump versus Biden is going to be beautiful. 953 00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:24,570 It'll be somewhat tiring for the next nine months. But we'll 954 00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:27,720 stick with it. We'll try to keep your amygdala as in check. We'll 955 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:31,890 try to make it entertaining. Yes, entertaining and speaking 956 00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:36,780 of entertaining, news be spared the Wicked Witch lost his. 957 00:55:45,450 --> 00:55:53,130 thing down the weekend, which is Toria Nuland retires, retires 958 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,030 very surprising. I know you have some clips, I started off with a 959 00:55:57,030 --> 00:56:02,490 Redux clip. Going back to just February 1, just a month ago, 960 00:56:02,490 --> 00:56:04,170 she was in key leave, 961 00:56:04,290 --> 00:56:09,840 Unknown: I have to say that I leave tonight, more encouraged 962 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:18,270 about unity, and the results about 2024. And its absolute 963 00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:23,820 strategic importance for Ukraine. I also leave more 964 00:56:23,820 --> 00:56:32,010 confident that even as Ukraine strengthens its defenses. Mr. 965 00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:36,570 Putin is going to get some nice surprises on the battlefield, 966 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:40,800 and that Ukraine will make some very strong success 967 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,740 Adam Curry: this year. So we should have already taken the 968 00:56:43,740 --> 00:56:47,040 sound quality of her announcement as a clue that 969 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,550 something was not going the way she wanted it. This was not a 970 00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:55,410 good appearance by Toria. And she she said Oh Mr. Putin is 971 00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:59,190 going to get some surprises on the battlefield. I'm now 972 00:56:59,190 --> 00:57:03,120 thinking that was meant to be those tourists missiles. Toria 973 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,160 didn't get the tourists. And and she resigned. And I have some 974 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,970 thoughts but we agreed we agreed that you would play a couple 975 00:57:11,970 --> 00:57:13,170 clips about her first. 976 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,050 John C Dvorak: Yes, I want to play at one of her biggest fans. 977 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,070 Adam Curry: Gregory Rondo rough. 978 00:57:20,850 --> 00:57:23,760 John C Dvorak: Glenn Greenwald as gave her a send off. I have 979 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:30,720 three clips. And he's loved he loves her. He loves disappointed 980 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:36,390 that poor old Tory, as they like to call her is on the way out. 981 00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:40,200 You're going to analyze this but let's listen to Glenn. Here's 982 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,040 one one of the 983 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,580 Unknown: most bloodthirsty and psychotic warmongers. The Occupy 984 00:57:44,580 --> 00:57:48,630 high office in Washington resigned today, evidently and 985 00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:51,720 hopefully bringing a shameful end to her long and destructive 986 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,320 career in Washington. Victoria Nuland, who worked for every 987 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,890 American president from Bill Clinton to Joe Biden, with the 988 00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:01,620 sole exception that she was out of power only during the Trump 989 00:58:01,620 --> 00:58:05,010 presidency, announced today that she was resigning her position 990 00:58:05,010 --> 00:58:08,580 as Acting Deputy Secretary of State, a position to which he 991 00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:11,790 had just been promoted last July, when the prior Deputy 992 00:58:11,790 --> 00:58:15,090 Secretary of State retired, there was much speculation about 993 00:58:15,090 --> 00:58:19,140 why newlon may have resigned now perhaps it was due to her anger 994 00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:22,050 that the Biden administration is not doing more to fuel the war 995 00:58:22,050 --> 00:58:25,740 in Ukraine against Russia one of our pet projects for decades, 996 00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:28,560 though the Biden administration is impeded only because Congress 997 00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:31,410 under the house speaker Mike Johnson won't approve another 998 00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:34,980 $60 billion from that war. Perhaps it is anger over the 999 00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:39,030 fact that the Biden White House is now typically criticizing 1000 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:42,480 Israel, a country to which she is more devoted than almost 1001 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,140 anybody in Washington, or perhaps and most likely, it was 1002 00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:49,710 due to the fact that she was just passed over to permanently 1003 00:58:49,710 --> 00:58:52,560 become the Deputy Secretary of State the position second in 1004 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,700 line to ascend her lifelong ambition of becoming Secretary 1005 00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:00,750 of State. Whatever the reasons, and despite the horror show that 1006 00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:03,450 has already replaced her someone who also worked for Dick Cheney, 1007 00:59:03,630 --> 00:59:05,730 and he's been around the State Department for decades, there's 1008 00:59:05,730 --> 00:59:09,060 still much to celebrate from this news of the end, at least 1009 00:59:09,060 --> 00:59:12,030 for now, Victoria Nuland his career in government, she 1010 00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:14,940 started this dip Cheney's top adviser for his disastrous 1011 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:18,600 invasion and occupation of Iraq. She then served as US ambassador 1012 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,970 to NATO when the Bush administration, led by 1013 00:59:20,970 --> 00:59:24,540 Condoleezza Rice and Victoria Nuland began attempts to expand 1014 00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:28,080 NATO right up to the Russian border, including Ukraine. And 1015 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,750 one can draw a direct line between that expansionist 1016 00:59:30,750 --> 00:59:34,440 mentality in 2007 and eight kind of decade long war in Ukraine 1017 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,240 now taking place. I 1018 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,330 Adam Curry: don't know if he mentions it. But you and I were 1019 00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:43,140 even talking about this. I think just last week, about how cute 1020 00:59:43,140 --> 00:59:45,750 she was back in the day. It 1021 00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:48,990 John C Dvorak: doesn't. He does not shame her for turning into a 1022 00:59:49,290 --> 00:59:52,440 kind of a hole. Yeah, but we were horrible looking. When we 1023 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,040 least 1024 00:59:53,070 --> 00:59:56,010 Adam Curry: well, we will and and not only that, but she had a 1025 00:59:56,010 --> 01:00:00,000 mannerism that had something very, very and interesting under 1026 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,210 tone of vixen NESC type. Yeah mannerism when she was on things 1027 01:00:06,210 --> 01:00:09,810 a C span interview that's been going around big 1028 01:00:09,810 --> 01:00:13,470 John C Dvorak: nurse. I'm sorry it was the big nurse character 1029 01:00:13,470 --> 01:00:15,960 in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest nest. 1030 01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:17,430 Adam Curry: That's what she looks like now. 1031 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,330 John C Dvorak: Well, she, she looks, she's always looked like 1032 01:00:21,330 --> 01:00:24,420 the woman who played that nurse, nurse cracked, yet cracked, 1033 01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:29,820 ratchet. Ratchet ratchet. But I mean, she had this funny way of 1034 01:00:29,820 --> 01:00:31,830 talking and it was she was always like, you know, like 1035 01:00:31,830 --> 01:00:35,010 you're talking to an insane person all the time. Well, and 1036 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:40,560 she's she is creepy when she was thin and kind of pretty. 1037 01:00:41,490 --> 01:00:44,670 Physically pretty. But then when she started talking, she had 1038 01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:51,000 this nurse ratchet quality that was extremely uncomfortable to 1039 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,900 watch. And she did he didn't play. He played that clip of her 1040 01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:58,320 on C span. But I don't have that I have here's part two of this 1041 01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,070 last obviously 1042 01:00:59,070 --> 01:01:01,560 Unknown: produced a comprehensive look at the rotted 1043 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,350 life and bloodthirsty value system and warmongering 1044 01:01:04,350 --> 01:01:08,010 obsession that Victoria Nuland has pursued and implemented for 1045 01:01:08,010 --> 01:01:11,190 decades under the rule of both political parties. Given that we 1046 01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:13,290 have an audience composed of many people who are recent 1047 01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:15,210 arrivals in the last several months. And given that her 1048 01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:18,570 departure is really a momentous occasion to take a look at what 1049 01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:21,420 she did. We will show you that report we prepared last August 1050 01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:29,040 as it is more relevant now than ever Upon her departure. Elected 1051 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,650 officials who wield a lot of power in Washington Jews 1052 01:01:31,650 --> 01:01:34,590 sometimes receive a fair amount of media attention. But 1053 01:01:34,590 --> 01:01:37,470 oftentimes the people who really wield power in Washington, the 1054 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:41,010 ones who aren't accountable to the democratic process who stay 1055 01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:44,550 in power, regardless of which political party you vote for, 1056 01:01:44,550 --> 01:01:47,730 get far too little attention given how much influence they 1057 01:01:47,730 --> 01:01:52,380 wield. And that is definitely the case for Joe Biden's new 1058 01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:56,010 Deputy Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland, who has been 1059 01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:01,050 occupying crucial positions in the US government going all the 1060 01:02:01,050 --> 01:02:03,180 way back to the Clinton administration through the Bush 1061 01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:06,750 administration, through the Obama administration skipping 1062 01:02:06,750 --> 01:02:10,170 over Donald Trump, and now we'll do more power than ever, 1063 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,980 especially over Ukraine in the war in Ukraine under Joe Biden. 1064 01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:17,790 She really deserves a lot more attention than she's received. 1065 01:02:17,790 --> 01:02:21,810 So let's look at first of all, at one of the one of my favorite 1066 01:02:22,350 --> 01:02:27,150 British reporting outlets, which is responsible statecraft. When 1067 01:02:27,150 --> 01:02:31,560 Victoria Nuland was appointed in July 20, July of 25, they said 1068 01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:35,580 the following quote, Uber Russia Hawk Victoria Nuland rises to 1069 01:02:35,580 --> 01:02:40,320 Acting Deputy Secretary of State she's done as much as anyone to 1070 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,950 sour us Russia ties now she is one of Washington's top 1071 01:02:43,950 --> 01:02:47,040 diplomats. Quote in a little remark move the Biden 1072 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,340 administration announced Monday that Victoria Nuland will take 1073 01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:53,190 over as the acting second in command is that the State 1074 01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:56,850 Department she replaces Wendy Sherman who plans to retire at 1075 01:02:56,850 --> 01:03:00,210 the end of this week. Newman's appointment will be a boon for 1076 01:03:00,210 --> 01:03:04,170 Russia hawks, who wants to turn up the heat on the Kremlin. But 1077 01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:07,260 for those who favor a negotiated end to the conflict in Ukraine, 1078 01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:11,310 a promotion for the notoriously quote undiplomatic diplomat will 1079 01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:13,620 be a bitter pill. Man, 1080 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:17,250 Adam Curry: I even though it's always hard to listen to him, 1081 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,650 it's better than reading his long pieces. Oh, it's much, much 1082 01:03:22,650 --> 01:03:25,170 better than reading that stuff. And well, 1083 01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:27,990 John C Dvorak: he was his long pieces are excellent. If he's 1084 01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:30,630 got an editor. Yeah, well, we know he doesn't he hasn't had 1085 01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:33,600 that for 10 years. No, nobody has editors anymore. You have to 1086 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,120 do either do it yourself, or you have to have somebody to help 1087 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,810 you or what when I write my pieces for substack, which I 1088 01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:43,620 need to do a couple more. I use one of our producers who's a 1089 01:03:43,620 --> 01:03:45,480 copy editor. And she does a great job. 1090 01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:49,980 Adam Curry: Yes. From the oasis from the waist anyway. 1091 01:03:49,980 --> 01:03:51,630 John C Dvorak: So here, he finishes it up. And they just 1092 01:03:51,630 --> 01:03:54,360 got to look got a nice little conclusion. At the end. Just 1093 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:54,810 imagine 1094 01:03:54,810 --> 01:03:58,740 Unknown: you are the one of the leading advocates for the war in 1095 01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,910 Iraq, promising that there's all the success in the war in 1096 01:04:02,910 --> 01:04:09,960 Afghanistan, and then demanding NATO be expanded into Eastern 1097 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,980 Europe up to the border, including Ukraine and be used as 1098 01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:16,530 a tool for regime change operations, including in Libya, 1099 01:04:16,530 --> 01:04:20,280 you have all these bloody, bloody disasters on your plate. 1100 01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:23,310 And American public opinion is against all of them, you would 1101 01:04:23,310 --> 01:04:27,360 think somebody's reputation and credibility in Washington would 1102 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,070 be crippled as a result of advocating so many destructive 1103 01:04:32,070 --> 01:04:34,830 policies that resulted in the deaths of so many people 1104 01:04:34,830 --> 01:04:39,600 unnecessarily for reasons that completely backfired on American 1105 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,600 foreign American interests as they were defined at the time. 1106 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,530 But that's not how Washington works ever. Jeffrey Goldberg got 1107 01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:51,030 caught spreading crucial eyes, using the pages of the New 1108 01:04:51,030 --> 01:04:54,750 Yorker promoting the idea that Saddam Hussein was in alliance 1109 01:04:54,750 --> 01:04:59,520 with al Qaeda, which like 70% of Americans do conclude that 1110 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,880 Saddam use Seen had participated in 911 attacks, which got them 1111 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,510 to justify and support the invasion of Iraq. He got 1112 01:05:07,050 --> 01:05:10,440 journalism awards for spreading that lie on behalf of us 1113 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,080 security state. And as we know, he now occupies the position of 1114 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,560 editor in chief of the Atlantic. And he also just got promoted by 1115 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,820 having a PBS show given to him. That has long been called 1116 01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:23,490 Washington weak. So he's advanced. The more he slide, the 1117 01:05:23,490 --> 01:05:29,430 more bloody were bloody wars Victoria Nuland is involving 1118 01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:33,990 herself in and advocating and curing and justifying, the more 1119 01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:37,950 she advances in bipartisan Washington doesn't matter. You 1120 01:05:37,950 --> 01:05:40,380 could have gone to the polls in 2008 and voted for John McCain. 1121 01:05:40,380 --> 01:05:43,800 You could have gone to the polls and voted for Barack Obama. And 1122 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,230 Victoria Nuland would have ended up running things for the State 1123 01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:48,000 Department. Hmm. 1124 01:05:49,770 --> 01:05:53,010 Adam Curry: Well, I think there's a lot going on and 1125 01:05:53,010 --> 01:05:58,170 there's no coincidences in the kingdom. I would say that the so 1126 01:05:58,170 --> 01:06:06,750 called leaked call of the German loose VAFA top brass is not a 1127 01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:11,460 coincidence. Yeah, that this had to happen because we are now 1128 01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:17,640 shoving Ukraine on to Germany we've got McCrone out there 1129 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:23,790 saying don't be cowards and and was was This is war. This is not 1130 01:06:23,790 --> 01:06:26,700 good. Whoa, what happened here? Oh, I haven't this is very weird 1131 01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:37,770 that has happened. There's that there is a lot of chatter. For 1132 01:06:37,770 --> 01:06:44,010 instance, chatter item number one, that there's some kind of 1133 01:06:44,010 --> 01:06:49,620 investigation going on about Ukraine. A financial 1134 01:06:49,620 --> 01:06:55,320 investigation of $120 billion spent on open items that were 1135 01:06:55,500 --> 01:07:00,300 unclear as to where that went. Now. I don't know that for sure. 1136 01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:07,980 Klitschko Klich her boy there glitch is openly criticizing the 1137 01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:12,480 Lensky. And if I'm what I'm hearing is everything is 1138 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,380 collapsing. Looking around at some of these, I went all over 1139 01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:20,640 the cloud one on substack. I'm looking at blogs, this. Here's 1140 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,500 what this is Puck. Puck writes a lot about stuff going on MDC bad 1141 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,830 blood at states anger and resentment is exploding and 1142 01:07:28,830 --> 01:07:33,060 Foggy Bottom. After Kurt Campbell, a close friend of Tony 1143 01:07:33,060 --> 01:07:37,170 Blinken was nominated for Deputy Secretary of State over the 1144 01:07:37,170 --> 01:07:41,910 agency's more experienced acting number two. Victoria Nuland 1145 01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:48,090 Well, this is not entirely true. She is absolutely experienced in 1146 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,740 all things Russia, I believe this represents a pivot to 1147 01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:57,000 China's bricks I would say more generally, but to China, and I 1148 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,810 think we can back it up because we have seen Well, first of all, 1149 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:07,320 the guy who's taking over from her is John Bass. John Bass was 1150 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:14,160 ambassador to Afghanistan during the very successful of pullout 1151 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,620 in 2021. So that tells me Hey, this guy knows how to do it. If 1152 01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:22,860 we got to pull out of the this Ukraine mess let him do it. He 1153 01:08:22,860 --> 01:08:28,050 knows how to screw things up just fine. The successor to 1154 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:33,030 cookie cookie on the My Don Nuland is this guy, Kurt 1155 01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:36,300 Campbell, and I have and he made a big mistake of going on a 1156 01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:39,330 podcast a couple of months ago. So I have some clips from that 1157 01:08:39,330 --> 01:08:42,450 and to kind of get a little understanding of him. But let's 1158 01:08:42,450 --> 01:08:47,160 just put it all together. Why I think this is a pivot to the to 1159 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,480 China to the bricks or as you'll hear later, the Indo Pacific. 1160 01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:55,230 It's all about the military industrial complex, they cannot 1161 01:08:55,230 --> 01:09:00,120 get this money. The money is just not happening. The Trump is 1162 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,870 telling the Republicans not to do it. Now the Senate is all 1163 01:09:03,900 --> 01:09:06,570 gridlocked. And the Democrats are saying, well, it's the 1164 01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:09,120 Republicans fault. They didn't want to do the deal, who wanted 1165 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,660 to do the deal. So the money is not happening in the military 1166 01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:16,590 industrial complex, our biggest expenditure, one of our biggest 1167 01:09:16,590 --> 01:09:21,510 expenditures, they want their money. And I think pivoting to 1168 01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:27,450 China is great for a whole bunch of reasons. Number one, you get 1169 01:09:27,450 --> 01:09:32,160 to build big ships, and subs. And we got a note from one of 1170 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:41,010 our producers last week about the air bases in the in the Indo 1171 01:09:41,010 --> 01:09:45,870 Pacific. Here's the link that we were given game on with China us 1172 01:09:45,870 --> 01:09:50,700 to restore Tinian airfield once home to largest B 29 bomber 1173 01:09:50,700 --> 01:09:56,340 fleet during World War Two. And this note we got from one of our 1174 01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:59,880 producers, if you can recall was a screenshot of somebody in the 1175 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,900 news Oh, and that screenshot literally said keep your eye on 1176 01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:07,110 the stocks. The contractors are coming out. You remember that 1177 01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:07,680 text? 1178 01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:11,670 John C Dvorak: Yes. And I specifically asked I think I 1179 01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:15,300 sent a note back what stocks do we tell you? I know. I know. Of 1180 01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:17,580 course he did it curious. So, 1181 01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:21,060 Adam Curry: another reason why I think we pivot is because Trump 1182 01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:25,650 has said he's going to end this war, but Trump hates China. And 1183 01:10:25,650 --> 01:10:31,110 Trump loves building huge ships, huge, huge ships. We got subs, 1184 01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:33,720 big, beautiful subs. You won't see them. They're under the 1185 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:39,480 water. We've got fentanyl. We've been told that there's Chinese 1186 01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:42,780 coming across the border military aged men very, very 1187 01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:46,800 scary. Maybe we can stop this invasion of the military age, 1188 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,410 man. Maybe we can get some troops in the Darien Gap or 1189 01:10:49,410 --> 01:10:54,240 Ecuador. But I'm seeing a lot of military spending in our future 1190 01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:59,220 and then right on cue. Tic tock is back. 1191 01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:04,560 Unknown: Fueled by viral videos tick tock offers a stage for 1192 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,610 million. But soon the curtain could be coming down new 1193 01:11:08,610 --> 01:11:11,970 legislation set for review by a US House committee tomorrow 1194 01:11:11,970 --> 01:11:15,690 requires tick tock to separate itself or divest from its 1195 01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:20,340 Chinese based owner bytedance or risk of banned from app stores 1196 01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:21,150 in the US 1197 01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:26,130 we implore bite dance to sell tick tock so that its American 1198 01:11:26,130 --> 01:11:30,870 users can enjoy their dance videos, their bad lip sync 1199 01:11:30,990 --> 01:11:33,600 everything else that goes along with tick tock. 1200 01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:39,690 Amid growing fears, the personal information tick tock devours 1201 01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:42,390 from its users could fall into the hands of Chinese 1202 01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:44,970 adversaries, there may be millions of Tik Tok users who 1203 01:11:44,970 --> 01:11:47,730 say don't ban this. We love this. 1204 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,340 Well, the choice is up to tick tock they have a choice to make 1205 01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:53,040 as to whether or not they want to remain with bytedance that we 1206 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,560 know is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. 1207 01:11:56,460 --> 01:11:59,940 Tick tock blast this plan saying they already have firewalls in 1208 01:11:59,940 --> 01:12:03,210 place to protect user data and they say it would trample on the 1209 01:12:03,210 --> 01:12:07,260 First Amendment rights of 170 million Americans. So 1210 01:12:07,260 --> 01:12:11,130 Adam Curry: we have a nice overview of Americans you can 1211 01:12:11,130 --> 01:12:14,400 get ready to hate China because military age men this is when 1212 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,980 Brett Weinstein is promoting this you got to pay attention. 1213 01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:21,810 John C Dvorak: Yes, I do have to do to tick tock clips about 1214 01:12:21,810 --> 01:12:22,440 this. Yes, 1215 01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,900 Adam Curry: I'd like to set you up I want to first say that this 1216 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,250 bill was introduced by a Gallagher he's a Republican. His 1217 01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:32,340 one of his biggest donors is Google. And as part of the 1218 01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:37,530 legislation, bike dance slash tick tock we'll have five months 1219 01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:41,640 to make all data exportable so that people can export their 1220 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:47,550 videos and put them on to YouTube. Coincidence? I think 1221 01:12:47,550 --> 01:12:49,980 not. Tick tock modulations 1222 01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:53,040 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they got the two parter this came from 1223 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,160 NTD so it has the anti Chinese bent 1224 01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:59,250 Unknown: Chinese owned tick tock once again in the hot seat. This 1225 01:12:59,250 --> 01:13:02,910 comes as the White House has its backing a bipartisan bill aimed 1226 01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:07,290 at targeting tiktoks access to the US market entity Sam Wang 1227 01:13:07,290 --> 01:13:09,600 has details of the new legislation. 1228 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,870 It's another round of action targeting tick tock and allowing 1229 01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:16,440 a CCP controlled entity like tick tock to become the dominant 1230 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:21,030 media player in America would be like if in 1962 at the height 1231 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:23,340 the height of the Cold War right before the Cuban Missile Crisis, 1232 01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:26,670 we'd allowed Pravda and the KGB to purchase the New York Times 1233 01:13:26,670 --> 01:13:30,090 The Washington Post ABC and NBC Capitol Hill Wednesday, a 1234 01:13:30,090 --> 01:13:33,240 bipartisan group of lawmakers and now this new legislation 1235 01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:36,540 title protecting Americans from foreign adversary control 1236 01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:39,840 application Act. The bill specifically describes tick tock 1237 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,020 and is trying to own parent company bytedance as threats to 1238 01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:46,650 US national security. If the bill passes, tick tock will face 1239 01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:50,010 two options, either to divest from Biden's within about five 1240 01:13:50,010 --> 01:13:53,820 month or to face a total ban from all web hosting services in 1241 01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:57,870 the US. A Tiktok spokesperson responded to the legislation 1242 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,710 saying it will trample on First Amendment rights of 170 million 1243 01:14:01,710 --> 01:14:05,340 Americans. The lawmaker said the bill isn't about going after the 1244 01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:08,610 app itself, but rather to address concerns surrounding its 1245 01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:13,650 ownership structure. Our goal is to decouple tick tock and other 1246 01:14:13,650 --> 01:14:17,340 platforms from the malign influence and control of the 1247 01:14:17,340 --> 01:14:18,780 Chinese Communist Party. 1248 01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:23,160 Americans data is always at risk, always at risk of seizure 1249 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:24,120 by the CCP, 1250 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,660 this is a CCP controlled company claiming to stand up for 1251 01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:31,080 Constitutional Rights while simultaneously engaging in 1252 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,630 slavery and horrific human rights abuses. 1253 01:14:34,350 --> 01:14:37,770 Adam Curry: This is great before we go to your second clip, this 1254 01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:42,810 is also bullcrap, because the project Texas moved all that 1255 01:14:42,810 --> 01:14:46,620 data over to Oracle servers. I don't think it's all completed 1256 01:14:46,620 --> 01:14:51,690 yet. But you know, it's really specious to say that, you know, 1257 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,650 oh, a CCP is controlling our data because if anyone's 1258 01:14:55,650 --> 01:14:58,290 controlling the minds of our people, it's the meta 1259 01:14:58,290 --> 01:15:03,270 Corporation which you've invested in. And, you know and 1260 01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:07,050 and, and you see what happens when you that might have been a 1261 01:15:07,050 --> 01:15:11,220 test you know, we had a quick turn off of Facebook and 1262 01:15:11,220 --> 01:15:13,860 Instagram and everybody freaked out and everyone's like, Oh, 1263 01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:19,230 what are we gonna do? And you want to take away tick tock you 1264 01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:22,470 want to see people freak out. So this is a clear message and I 1265 01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,530 just want to read a couple of quotes from some of the CO 1266 01:15:25,530 --> 01:15:30,630 signers of this bill including Elise Stefanik tick tock is 1267 01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:34,920 Communist China malware that is poisoning the minds of our next 1268 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,960 generation and giving the CCP unfettered access to troves of 1269 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:48,090 American data. Tick Tick Tock is digital fentanyl. The dangerous 1270 01:15:48,090 --> 01:15:50,730 link between tick tock and Chinese Communist Party has 1271 01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:54,810 never been more apparent. All Americans deserve access to 1272 01:15:54,810 --> 01:15:57,510 information and media platforms that are free from the influence 1273 01:15:57,510 --> 01:16:01,470 of hostile foreign actors like the CCP. But here's the facts. 1274 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,040 Tick tock has been used by the CCP to silence free speech 1275 01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:09,930 unlike Twitter and Instagram, etc. Social media corporations 1276 01:16:09,930 --> 01:16:13,110 are attention fracking, America's youth and corroding 1277 01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:17,310 our democracy. These are all different quotes Tiktok owned by 1278 01:16:17,310 --> 01:16:21,420 the CCP is not true. We can allow we cannot allow CCP to 1279 01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:25,410 indoctrinate our children. That's a that was a quote from 1280 01:16:26,130 --> 01:16:31,380 Scott Adams. Congress can no longer Natalie Well, that's what 1281 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,900 no that's it's not in this release. I'm just adding that 1282 01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:38,130 because that's what he always says. Let me see if there's any. 1283 01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:41,730 Any technology apps software language models owned by foreign 1284 01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:44,100 adversaries are unequivocal threats to our national 1285 01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:49,710 security. Tic tock is CCP spyware used by the regime to 1286 01:16:49,710 --> 01:16:54,480 steal Americans data and push harmful propaganda. Unlike all 1287 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:57,060 the other social networks, including content showing 1288 01:16:57,060 --> 01:17:01,110 migrants how to illegally cross our southern border, supporting 1289 01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:05,880 Hamas terrorists and whitewashing 911 They promoted 1290 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,710 the letter from Osama bin Laden, I mean this these people are so 1291 01:17:10,710 --> 01:17:15,780 transparent. This is all about the military industrial complex, 1292 01:17:15,930 --> 01:17:21,120 switching over to hating China for big ships, for subs and for 1293 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,690 airfields. Here's the second of your Tiktok legislation clips. 1294 01:17:24,930 --> 01:17:27,000 Unknown: What's more, the legislation also allows the 1295 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,760 White House to designate certain applications controlled by 1296 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,360 foreign adversaries, namely China, Russia, Iran and North 1297 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,510 Korea. Experts and top US officials have long voiced 1298 01:17:36,510 --> 01:17:39,960 concern over Biden's his ties to the Chinese Communist Party. 1299 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,590 More specifically, that it could force Tiktok to submit American 1300 01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:44,340 users data. 1301 01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:47,310 The legislation we've got out today is a product of the 1302 01:17:47,340 --> 01:17:49,440 particularly the last year's worth of work, people are 1303 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:52,500 starting to recognize that this isn't just about some Oh, my 1304 01:17:52,500 --> 01:17:55,830 data, my data might be not being used properly. No, that data is 1305 01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:58,230 being used to attack you and attack our country. 1306 01:17:58,260 --> 01:18:00,720 The House Energy and Commerce Committee will mark up the bill 1307 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,220 Thursday. Now this is 1308 01:18:02,220 --> 01:18:05,550 Adam Curry: a load of horse crap. But you know, yes. 1309 01:18:05,970 --> 01:18:09,450 John C Dvorak: There's an irony here that always cracks me up is 1310 01:18:09,450 --> 01:18:12,780 that when Google and some of these other American companies 1311 01:18:12,780 --> 01:18:15,000 were in China, and they were gonna get bent out of shape and 1312 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,440 kick them out? We're so aghast. How could they do that? They 1313 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:22,470 don't like and you know, they hate the internet. They go we go 1314 01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:26,070 on and on and on. Now we're doing the exact same thing years 1315 01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:32,580 later. Oh, yeah. Does anybody see any hypocrisy here? Well, 1316 01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:35,820 Unknown: so 1317 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:42,660 Adam Curry: we have a new guy, who is a Tony Blinken, his 1318 01:18:42,660 --> 01:18:48,180 buddy, Kurt Campbell, who is Kurt Campbell. Well, he's He 1319 01:18:48,180 --> 01:18:51,750 reminds me of my uncle don a little bit without the humor, 1320 01:18:51,780 --> 01:18:55,320 which is sad because I had to listen to an hour long China 1321 01:18:55,320 --> 01:19:00,870 talks podcast recorded bell with a C or a K occurred with a que 1322 01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:06,690 Curt M Campbell. And he is how you he has been leading the Indo 1323 01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:11,490 Pacific strategy for the Biden administration. CEO of the Asia 1324 01:19:11,490 --> 01:19:13,410 Group, LLC. Oh, 1325 01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:14,700 John C Dvorak: the Asia group tell ya. 1326 01:19:16,350 --> 01:19:18,600 Adam Curry: He served as a National Security Council 1327 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,990 coordinator for the Indo Pacific and the Indo Pacific is I think 1328 01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:25,500 the term we're going to be hearing. Although really, 1329 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,590 they're talking about bricks because we can still hate Russia 1330 01:19:28,590 --> 01:19:31,800 through China. You see, because China is one of the big 1331 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,030 supporters of Russia. They're in this BRICS coalition. The BRICS, 1332 01:19:36,060 --> 01:19:39,030 just by coincidence announced their their, you know, their new 1333 01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:42,450 SWIFT system, which will be launching next year, Blockchain 1334 01:19:42,450 --> 01:19:47,250 based I'm sure it'd be fantastic. You know, Britain 1335 01:19:47,250 --> 01:19:48,630 just announced. Yes. 1336 01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:51,960 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. I'm looking at his bio and this day, 1337 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,800 he's got all the earmarks of what you we be notice your 1338 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,800 Council on Foreign Relations, blah, blah, blah. But this one 1339 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,790 cracks me up 20 18 to 2019 Campbell was the Kissinger 1340 01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:05,280 Fellow at the McCain institute. 1341 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,250 Adam Curry: He's a war criminal by default. 1342 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:09,510 John C Dvorak: Wow. 1343 01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:12,060 Adam Curry: All right. So I have a couple clips that I pulled and 1344 01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:15,450 we can kind of get a strategy and the off the bat, I was 1345 01:20:15,450 --> 01:20:20,400 surprised, but then again, not really because like, oh, that's 1346 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,370 an if you want to go after we want, we need to get the 1347 01:20:23,370 --> 01:20:28,500 American public ramped up now, like, the Russia thing is over 1348 01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:31,800 is no one no one's interested Putin bad. I know, he's, he's, 1349 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,860 and he's not that whatever. It's Ukraine, we don't get and it's 1350 01:20:34,860 --> 01:20:38,970 great to have, you know, to have a distant enemy, we can all hate 1351 01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:42,180 Chinese. It's easy to hate him. They're stealing our data. 1352 01:20:42,420 --> 01:20:45,330 They're, they're sending spies across the board and military 1353 01:20:45,330 --> 01:20:49,620 age. They're bastards. Exactly. It's very easy for us to hate 1354 01:20:49,620 --> 01:20:52,470 the Chinese. I know how Americans work. I know how we 1355 01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:56,700 think we're just easy that way. But how can we really hate 1356 01:20:56,700 --> 01:20:57,870 China, let's 1357 01:20:57,870 --> 01:21:01,710 Unknown: set a baseline goal for US policy in 2050, the 1358 01:21:01,710 --> 01:21:05,130 traditional aim of opposing any other power, and this is so this 1359 01:21:05,130 --> 01:21:09,180 is the China talks podcast host exercising exclusive hegemonic 1360 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:12,420 control over Asia or the Pacific, or we can take yours 1361 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,870 slightly more ambitious of, you know, sustaining the operating 1362 01:21:15,870 --> 01:21:18,570 system or operating system that the US has set up in Asia over 1363 01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:20,760 the past 75 years, my 1364 01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:22,110 like, little 1365 01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:26,520 rubric for the three things the US needs to execute on is long 1366 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,280 term economic growth, maintaining alliances networks, 1367 01:21:29,310 --> 01:21:34,350 and not imploding domestically. You had, then you sort of have a 1368 01:21:34,350 --> 01:21:37,470 major war as a potential wildcard there, am I missing or 1369 01:21:37,470 --> 01:21:38,790 what what's missing in that schematic? 1370 01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:42,510 John C Dvorak: So look, I think that's a good list, I would just 1371 01:21:42,510 --> 01:21:46,800 add one thing to this, if I can, then I recognize that, you know, 1372 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:52,500 for people who's sick about power, sometimes they don't like 1373 01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:59,220 the intrusion of issues that are not traditional. But in fact, if 1374 01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:03,660 we don't figure out how to consequentially deal with 1375 01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:08,220 climate change, the effects of which are hitting us much 1376 01:22:08,250 --> 01:22:12,780 earlier, in a much more profound way that I think even some of 1377 01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:19,230 the warriors thought, I don't think we'll be able to deal with 1378 01:22:19,230 --> 01:22:22,650 some of these other challenges. So I think what I'd add to that, 1379 01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:26,310 probably are some transactional issues. But at the top of that 1380 01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:30,390 really would be climate change. And that means sea level rise, 1381 01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:34,410 that means, you know, uncontrolled migration, that 1382 01:22:34,410 --> 01:22:42,240 means, you know, changes in everything, from crops to sea 1383 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,780 habitats, these are all at risk now, much earlier than 1384 01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:49,920 anticipated. And I think, in truth, we have been loath 1385 01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:55,830 Unknown: to try not to call out particular countries, but China 1386 01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:59,580 is going to have to do much more in this arena, if we are to 1387 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,020 address the most significant elements of climate change over 1388 01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:06,060 the course of the next period ahead. 1389 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,910 Adam Curry: So he's, he's, you know, this is three months ago, 1390 01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:09,060 so 1391 01:23:09,060 --> 01:23:10,590 John C Dvorak: the suit was that dud. 1392 01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:11,970 Adam Curry: That's Kurt Campbell. 1393 01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:15,150 John C Dvorak: Oh, my God, the guy's got an IQ of 80. 1394 01:23:16,050 --> 01:23:20,520 Adam Curry: He plays violin. Curie does now. And that was the 1395 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,580 longest clip I have, luckily, but I thought it was interesting 1396 01:23:23,580 --> 01:23:26,760 that right off the bat, he starts talking about climate 1397 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,820 change. And I think that we're going to try and use this and 1398 01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:35,880 say, hey, it's one big world. And China is screwing us with 1399 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,610 all their coal plants, and we can we I think there's an 1400 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:44,880 opportunity to move that over to blaming China, that there's a 1401 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,090 real opportunity. And I normally would not have played this clip, 1402 01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:52,890 mainly because I vetoed playing this douche. But John Kerry said 1403 01:23:52,890 --> 01:23:56,430 something very similar about Russia just the other day, 1404 01:23:56,490 --> 01:24:00,480 Unknown: I believe that Russia has the ability to be able to 1405 01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:04,470 make enormous changes if it really wanted to. I mean, if 1406 01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:09,870 Russia has the ability to wage a war illegally and invade another 1407 01:24:09,870 --> 01:24:13,200 country, they ought to be able to find the effort to be 1408 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:19,170 responsible in the climate issue. And, okay, unfortunately, 1409 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,090 because of the actions that Russia took, in an unprovoked 1410 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:31,200 illegal war against another nation, we have not been engaged 1411 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,980 in discussions with Russia, sadly, I say sadly, because it's 1412 01:24:34,980 --> 01:24:39,300 a loss for the world, not to be able to have Russia acting 1413 01:24:39,300 --> 01:24:44,040 constructively on this issue. But we need every country 1414 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,070 including Russia, Russia is one of the largest emitters of the 1415 01:24:47,070 --> 01:24:52,170 emitters in the world. If Russia wanted to show good face. They 1416 01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:55,440 could go out and announce what their reductions are going to be 1417 01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:58,560 and make a greater effort to reduce emissions now, and maybe 1418 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,010 that would open up the door for be able to feel better about 1419 01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:04,980 what Russia is choosing to do at this point in time. 1420 01:25:06,330 --> 01:25:11,370 Adam Curry: So we'll feel better about Russia. In Ukraine, if as 1421 01:25:11,370 --> 01:25:15,720 long as they're all going on climate change. I mean, these 1422 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,370 people are insane. So so it wouldn't surprise me if climate 1423 01:25:20,370 --> 01:25:23,010 change is a part of the strategy, but tick tock is 1424 01:25:23,010 --> 01:25:26,340 probably going to be a lot more effective now back to Kurt 1425 01:25:26,340 --> 01:25:30,840 Campbell. And he has because you know, he's he's the expert, he 1426 01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:34,380 is the expert on all things China, how do the Chinese view 1427 01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:36,000 themselves on the world stage, 1428 01:25:36,030 --> 01:25:39,060 John C Dvorak: I don't think the Chinese believe in any way that 1429 01:25:39,090 --> 01:25:43,170 they have elements of decline in their system, I think what 1430 01:25:43,170 --> 01:25:46,980 animates them is not only a sense of aggrievement, at the 1431 01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:50,970 highest level, the idea of reversing decades or a century 1432 01:25:50,970 --> 01:25:55,290 of what they call humiliation, but also a sense that China's 1433 01:25:55,290 --> 01:25:59,190 time has come that this remarkable accumulation of power 1434 01:25:59,190 --> 01:26:03,930 and capacity, now has exerted itself fully to a leading role 1435 01:26:03,930 --> 01:26:06,840 on the global stage, I think give me respects they feel that 1436 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,500 they're unique, and that can't be replicated. The steps that 1437 01:26:10,500 --> 01:26:14,970 they've taken internationally have been to provide capacities, 1438 01:26:14,970 --> 01:26:21,120 either technology or police services, or whatever, on the at 1439 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,540 the behest of local authoritarians, whether it's in 1440 01:26:24,540 --> 01:26:32,730 Africa, or the Pacific or South Asia to try to prop up come 1441 01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:38,160 leaders that are that tend to be more flexible China issues that 1442 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,000 matter to China. 1443 01:26:39,450 --> 01:26:42,030 Adam Curry: So this tells me that they're also going to do 1444 01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:46,110 some stuff with Africa. Because you know, China is now big 1445 01:26:46,110 --> 01:26:49,530 there, they're going to be the real problem. And at the head of 1446 01:26:49,530 --> 01:26:52,620 the pack is GE, he's just as bad as Putin, I 1447 01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:56,490 John C Dvorak: think some of the things that we hear from people 1448 01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:06,870 in China today suggests that the kind of information and the 1449 01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:10,260 people that that President Xi gets information from is 1450 01:27:10,260 --> 01:27:15,270 increasingly limited. And that sometimes it's hard in the 1451 01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:21,240 system currently to speak truth to power. And so we're seeing a 1452 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,330 repeat of history of the kind that we saw in the mouse period 1453 01:27:24,330 --> 01:27:28,230 where you know, only a certain kind of leader, but certain kind 1454 01:27:28,230 --> 01:27:33,720 of information makes the very top. And so that does concern us 1455 01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:38,340 that you know you that you like very much for the people that 1456 01:27:38,340 --> 01:27:43,560 you're engaging with to have a deep, full understanding of the 1457 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,320 world in which they're operating. I think what we see 1458 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,490 in a variety of places like Ukraine, we think China's 1459 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:55,380 calculus and decision making has been informed by a number of 1460 01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:57,660 things that are concerning. 1461 01:27:57,810 --> 01:28:00,360 Adam Curry: So they're also helping Ukraine, I'm telling 1462 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,730 you, China is the new bad guy, and the Indo Pacific is the 1463 01:28:05,730 --> 01:28:07,680 region to worry about the 1464 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,190 John C Dvorak: dynamism of the global economy of 1465 01:28:11,250 --> 01:28:13,620 Adam Curry: and I'm so sorry, I don't think we'll ever play 1466 01:28:13,620 --> 01:28:15,870 clips from this guy. Again, I know this guy is 1467 01:28:15,870 --> 01:28:19,920 John C Dvorak: a clone of Kerry, he has a different accent. But 1468 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,270 he's the slow talking clone of care, Honduras can't get to the 1469 01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,930 point, blah, blah, blah, likes to hear his own voice. 1470 01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:31,740 Adam Curry: I had to edit so much just to get anything out of 1471 01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:34,020 this. But I think it's worth the pain, 1472 01:28:34,050 --> 01:28:37,440 John C Dvorak: all issues associated with what's important 1473 01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:41,340 on the global stage are playing out in large part in the Indo 1474 01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:45,420 Pacific. I think that's of critical importance. And then 1475 01:28:45,780 --> 01:28:50,100 you're gonna want hopefully to see that the seeds of a 1476 01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:56,310 continuing, dominant, important American role continues. And so 1477 01:28:56,310 --> 01:29:00,930 I would say, those are the things that you hope for, and 1478 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,970 you worry that either the American body politic grows 1479 01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:11,730 tired of those exertions, or hit an environment in which China 1480 01:29:11,730 --> 01:29:16,650 has been ambivalent, to create mechanisms for the kinds of 1481 01:29:16,650 --> 01:29:21,330 communications and crisis prevention that are necessary, I 1482 01:29:21,330 --> 01:29:25,950 think, to operate in this current arena that somehow there 1483 01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:30,030 is an accident or miscalculation that x escalates 1484 01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:33,240 unintentionally. There are lots of things to worry about, but 1485 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,100 those are a couple false flag 1486 01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:37,530 Adam Curry: incoming is what I'm thinking and of course, that 1487 01:29:37,530 --> 01:29:43,410 would be Taiwan. But again, Mr. clone of carry is very slick. 1488 01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:45,960 When it comes to questions about Taiwan, 1489 01:29:46,290 --> 01:29:48,660 John C Dvorak: that you were kind of safe serves a lot of 1490 01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:53,370 capacities. Over a long period of time. One of the things you 1491 01:29:53,370 --> 01:29:59,970 learn usually the hard way, is not to be too loquacious and 1492 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,190 answer a lot of hypotheticals associated 1493 01:30:02,190 --> 01:30:03,330 Unknown: with Taiwan. What's 1494 01:30:03,330 --> 01:30:04,770 Adam Curry: loquacious mean? 1495 01:30:06,990 --> 01:30:08,910 John C Dvorak: He's one of those words you kind of understand but 1496 01:30:08,910 --> 01:30:11,370 you can't just define this look it up 1497 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,480 Adam Curry: anyone who says loquacious 1498 01:30:18,810 --> 01:30:23,280 John C Dvorak: is an asshole timing. 1499 01:30:24,270 --> 01:30:26,580 Adam Curry: Perfect timing that hey, we'll be here all week, 1500 01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:31,230 everybody Corrado. That's that talkative. loquacious means 1501 01:30:31,230 --> 01:30:31,980 talkative. 1502 01:30:32,310 --> 01:30:35,160 John C Dvorak: Pretty much. Yeah. I would simply say I think 1503 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:40,170 US policy is clear. I think it is bipartisan. I think we are 1504 01:30:40,170 --> 01:30:43,050 determined to maintain the status quo and peace and 1505 01:30:43,050 --> 01:30:46,950 stability across the Taiwan Straits, tithing, increasingly, 1506 01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:53,460 that is accepted as a bipartisan national objective. And I think 1507 01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:55,980 we will do everything possible we can to sustain 1508 01:30:55,980 --> 01:30:58,770 Adam Curry: it. Big ships incoming. Alright, final clip. 1509 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,130 He's got new couch, aside here. Yeah, please. 1510 01:31:02,580 --> 01:31:06,510 John C Dvorak: You know, we had for years recognize Taiwan as 1511 01:31:06,510 --> 01:31:11,130 China. And I think it was during just before Reagan gotten the 1512 01:31:11,130 --> 01:31:15,960 presidency, that they switch gears and they kick Taiwan out 1513 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,920 of throw them under the bus. And now we don't even recognize them 1514 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:24,390 as a country. We do not recognize Taiwan, United States. 1515 01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:27,450 We do business with them. Yeah, but we do not recognize them as 1516 01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:31,290 a country yet. I mean, this is like the Ukraine. We've never 1517 01:31:31,290 --> 01:31:34,680 done trading. They're not our buddies. We never we don't even 1518 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,940 know, you know, nobody ever goes there. And all of a sudden, we 1519 01:31:38,940 --> 01:31:41,970 have to like now we had to defend Taiwan against the 1520 01:31:41,970 --> 01:31:46,740 Chinese. How about stepping up right now and recognizing them 1521 01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:50,910 as a country for big shots? big talker, so no loquacious types. 1522 01:31:50,970 --> 01:31:51,090 And 1523 01:31:51,090 --> 01:31:55,740 Adam Curry: notice, he said, Taiwan Straits. So when you talk 1524 01:31:55,740 --> 01:32:00,240 about the Taiwan Straits, you're talking ships, ships, the Indo 1525 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,530 Pacific region, I'm, I'm 1526 01:32:01,530 --> 01:32:02,670 John C Dvorak: liking your thesis here. 1527 01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,260 Adam Curry: All right, we have new calculus, 1528 01:32:04,290 --> 01:32:07,050 John C Dvorak: much of our international system, over 1529 01:32:07,050 --> 01:32:13,980 decades has been designed, that at its core, are efficiencies 1530 01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:22,200 and lowest, you know, cost for production. You know, accepting, 1531 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:24,900 you know, cheap 1532 01:32:26,370 --> 01:32:29,550 Adam Curry: sheep slave labor from China JUST SAY IT 1533 01:32:29,940 --> 01:32:32,760 John C Dvorak: capabilities to technologies are better done in 1534 01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,610 some places than others. Right. Right. But I think we're 1535 01:32:35,820 --> 01:32:38,910 probably heading into a new period where a new set of 1536 01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:40,470 calculus spy 1537 01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:43,140 Adam Curry: there it is China, we're not going to manufacture 1538 01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:46,020 in your country anymore is important, 1539 01:32:46,050 --> 01:32:50,610 John C Dvorak: you know, resilience, durability, you 1540 01:32:50,610 --> 01:32:58,080 know, the opportunity to be able to count on more than one source 1541 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,400 of supply. All those steps, build redundancy into the 1542 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:07,350 system. And I think probably those steps are smart, and they 1543 01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:10,980 will continue. So it didn't. But it is a substantial 1544 01:33:10,980 --> 01:33:16,140 reorientation at this system that had been about just in time 1545 01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:21,570 that had been about maximizing efficiency, over resiliency. And 1546 01:33:21,570 --> 01:33:26,490 I think we're reorienting towards a system that's more 1547 01:33:26,490 --> 01:33:31,200 predictable, it may be higher cost in certain areas, maybe 1548 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,440 slightly slower, but we think we'll probably be made more 1549 01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:38,940 durable. In the event of a crisis. It's 1550 01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:41,460 Adam Curry: like this guy was written into the script for 1551 01:33:41,460 --> 01:33:47,430 Trump is perfect. Perfect. Get your manufacturing out of China 1552 01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:52,380 now. And the end is no sales anymore. iPhones not selling 1553 01:33:52,380 --> 01:33:56,070 anymore in China. Now we're gonna, we're pivoting away with 1554 01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:59,460 our manufacturing, but we're gonna focus on these evil, evil 1555 01:33:59,460 --> 01:34:02,760 slanty eyes over there, because they're stealing your data and 1556 01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:07,200 controlling your children. This is on deck and it's perfect for 1557 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:12,330 Trump. Huge ships. Huge Red Sea. I think the Red Sea is also a 1558 01:34:12,330 --> 01:34:15,510 part of it. You know, it all really more ships in the Red 1559 01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:19,800 Sea. And we were back we have we have neglected building bridge, 1560 01:34:19,830 --> 01:34:23,910 there's going to be the USS Trump. It's coming and put that 1561 01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:26,640 in the Red Book. One final thing I just thought this was 1562 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:31,200 interesting. Campbell, did something that I think is not 1563 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:36,900 done in American diplomacy. He mentioned the G word had a 1564 01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:41,070 chance to get out. And I have to say he grew up in California. 1565 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,550 And by the way, he knows a lot about Russia because he also 1566 01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:47,760 went to school in Moscow by coincidence, so there's, he can 1567 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,930 cover the Toria bits with that. And he says that where he grew 1568 01:34:51,930 --> 01:34:54,330 up was very similar to Armenia. I 1569 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,240 John C Dvorak: had a chance to get an educational scholarship 1570 01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:01,110 so I went to the former Soviet and Soviet Army And then also 1571 01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:06,930 had some time in Moscow as well. I have very fond memories of 1572 01:35:06,930 --> 01:35:10,380 growing up there and learning about that culture. But I 1573 01:35:10,380 --> 01:35:13,290 remember if you can imagine it, that was basically my first time 1574 01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:18,870 going abroad. And so when the Armenians put left's Armenia in 1575 01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:24,540 fire around the First World War and with the genocide with 1576 01:35:24,540 --> 01:35:28,140 Turkey, and they came to settle in the United States, they 1577 01:35:28,140 --> 01:35:32,520 settled in the San Joaquin Valley in California because it 1578 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,330 looks so much like where they came from in Armenia yet on the 1579 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:37,230 devil's city. 1580 01:35:37,410 --> 01:35:39,330 Adam Curry: I don't think that you're supposed to say that as a 1581 01:35:39,330 --> 01:35:40,260 diplomat. No, no, 1582 01:35:40,260 --> 01:35:41,910 John C Dvorak: you can't i can't say genocide. I 1583 01:35:41,910 --> 01:35:45,510 Adam Curry: can't say that was a genocide, but yet he did it. The 1584 01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:45,870 Turks 1585 01:35:45,870 --> 01:35:48,240 John C Dvorak: are getting bent out of shape when you do that. 1586 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,550 Oh, yeah. Oh, you're a big deal. 1587 01:35:50,580 --> 01:35:53,910 Adam Curry: Yeah. So anyway, you know, the bricks are making 1588 01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:57,540 moves, and they're making all kinds of moves, maybe that is, 1589 01:35:57,780 --> 01:36:01,590 is seen as the as the new problem and what better than to 1590 01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:05,940 go after the C, you can't spell bricks without the C or without 1591 01:36:05,940 --> 01:36:11,790 the r. So this is I think, the focus and, and what we'll be 1592 01:36:11,790 --> 01:36:17,970 hearing and Toria has zero Indo Pacific experience. So she's out 1593 01:36:17,970 --> 01:36:23,310 of the game out, she just out. And now I think that as I said, 1594 01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:29,970 the the Red Sea and the Houthis they're ramping that up more 1595 01:36:29,970 --> 01:36:33,060 ships needed. The US military says at least three sailors have 1596 01:36:33,060 --> 01:36:35,730 been killed in a missile attack on a freighter off the coast of 1597 01:36:35,730 --> 01:36:38,760 Yemen that the first death since Houthi rebels began attacking 1598 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,250 shipping in the Red Sea. The group says the crew of the 1599 01:36:41,250 --> 01:36:44,820 Barbados flagged cargo vessel True Confidence ignored warning 1600 01:36:44,820 --> 01:36:48,000 messages before it came under fire. The survivors were forced 1601 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,700 to abandon ship, the Houthis have been attacking ships and 1602 01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:54,120 what they say is retaliation for Israeli military action in the 1603 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,660 Gaza Strip. The group which is backed by Iran has forced 1604 01:36:57,660 --> 01:37:00,690 maritime traffic to divert away from the Red Sea and the Gulf of 1605 01:37:00,690 --> 01:37:05,040 Aden are the world's busiest shipping routes and busiest 1606 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,670 shipping routes. So that's what I think is going on at the none 1607 01:37:08,670 --> 01:37:11,610 of this is coincidence all these things happening. I do have one 1608 01:37:11,610 --> 01:37:16,050 clip about Deutsche Avella because I really think that we 1609 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:23,040 we leaked that that that call between the loofah for bras made 1610 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,370 it look like Germany was putting boots on the ground like Germany 1611 01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:30,810 is in charge of the war now like here you go Germans, f the EU. 1612 01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:35,040 Go ahead, we're just gonna end by the way you pay for it. Now 1613 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:39,510 you go ahead, you're paying for it. This is why the Camp David 1614 01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:43,140 Cameron came out yesterday and said, You know, I think that we 1615 01:37:43,140 --> 01:37:48,210 should probably give the Ukraine some credit. And he says we're 1616 01:37:48,210 --> 01:37:52,140 going to lend them money with the Russian the 300 billion and 1617 01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:57,240 Russian assets as collateral. Which is a fun, fun way to get 1618 01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:01,050 around it is Deutsche bellick deflecting blame 1619 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,930 Unknown: Russia's disinformation campaign is in full swing in 1620 01:38:03,930 --> 01:38:07,020 Germany, and it's raising questions about the Chancellor's 1621 01:38:07,020 --> 01:38:10,620 credibility. Russia has leaked the recording of a call between 1622 01:38:10,620 --> 01:38:14,610 high ranking German Air Force officials and says this is proof 1623 01:38:14,610 --> 01:38:19,410 Germany is planning an attack on Russian targets. These claims 1624 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:23,160 are false. We've listened to the recording and what you hear is a 1625 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,850 theoretical discussion about what it would mean if Germany 1626 01:38:26,850 --> 01:38:30,150 decided to send its powerful Taurus Neufeld to Ukraine. 1627 01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:34,380 German Defense Minister Boris has Taurus warns. This is part 1628 01:38:34,410 --> 01:38:35,550 of Russia's playbook 1629 01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:39,870 as his tail matures. kiest in putting foot on gibbscam 1630 01:38:39,870 --> 01:38:43,230 survivor tentacle mine who believes in anger tradition 1631 01:38:43,230 --> 01:38:47,040 format, Shawn escaped on file tongue Eskandar homozygous last 1632 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:47,400 night. 1633 01:38:48,510 --> 01:38:51,810 So he's telling the truth. In the call. The official spoke 1634 01:38:51,810 --> 01:38:55,170 about logistics technical requirements, and crucially what 1635 01:38:55,170 --> 01:38:58,050 the Ukrainians could use themselves for, such as an 1636 01:38:58,050 --> 01:39:01,170 attack on the bridge connecting Russia to Crimea, which is 1637 01:39:01,170 --> 01:39:05,670 Ukrainian territory. Ukraine says it urgently needs tourists. 1638 01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:09,420 So far German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has refused to provide 1639 01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:12,930 the weapon, his reasoning. He says it would require German 1640 01:39:12,930 --> 01:39:16,140 soldiers to be on the ground in Ukraine to help program the 1641 01:39:16,140 --> 01:39:19,740 system. But in the loop call the officers are heard laying out 1642 01:39:19,740 --> 01:39:23,850 ways in which that would not be the case. opposition politicians 1643 01:39:23,850 --> 01:39:27,630 are asking why the mismatch and here's all our assaults 1644 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,100 misleading the public. 1645 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,100 Adam Curry: Yeah, so Germany's in turmoil Now it's perfect. 1646 01:39:33,090 --> 01:39:37,680 It's perfect turmoil. McCrone out there saying we should not 1647 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:43,110 be cowards. Do not be cowards. We can go we can fight in 1648 01:39:43,110 --> 01:39:48,720 Ukraine is for Europe, for the EU. And we're just letting them 1649 01:39:48,750 --> 01:39:54,390 we're just gonna let them just stink in it as we pivot to 1650 01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:56,310 China, and that's my story. 1651 01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,710 John C Dvorak: Well As that you're going to tell I thought 1652 01:40:01,710 --> 01:40:05,190 this presentation was going to involve word Victorian doula was 1653 01:40:05,190 --> 01:40:06,000 going to end up. 1654 01:40:06,510 --> 01:40:09,630 Adam Curry: I have no idea. I think she's she's gonna go to 1655 01:40:09,630 --> 01:40:14,280 some think tank and I mean she's, she needs to you know 1656 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,530 what she needs to go to a spa. 1657 01:40:17,010 --> 01:40:19,650 John C Dvorak: Ah. You know I was just about to throw that in 1658 01:40:19,650 --> 01:40:23,580 I was gonna beat to that punch line but now she needs to go to 1659 01:40:23,580 --> 01:40:26,820 a spa. She definitely needs to go to a spa. 1660 01:40:26,940 --> 01:40:29,400 Adam Curry: I think that would be good for her go to the spa 1661 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:30,000 girl. 1662 01:40:30,210 --> 01:40:32,700 John C Dvorak: Go to one of those spas in Germany the places 1663 01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:34,020 crawling. No, 1664 01:40:34,020 --> 01:40:35,910 Adam Curry: she's she's definitely not going to be 1665 01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:41,940 invited into Germany. Ah, was ba there no way. No way she goes 1666 01:40:41,940 --> 01:40:49,500 into the spa. In Germany. Especially not in Spa. Ah, you 1667 01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:51,330 what you got? I got more stole 1668 01:40:51,330 --> 01:40:55,800 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Did just wrap is the talk about pivoting? 1669 01:40:56,220 --> 01:40:59,190 Let's go to Fannie Willis or Barney or oh my god, 1670 01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:03,420 Adam Curry: I have to ask you a question. Did you see the any 1671 01:41:03,420 --> 01:41:10,020 footage of the I forget what her name was now, the Georgia had a 1672 01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:13,350 session where they had a lawyer who they brought in to 1673 01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:18,030 investigate all of the billing of Wade and in the stuff that he 1674 01:41:18,030 --> 01:41:22,170 sent through to Funny Funny while while Wallace's office. 1675 01:41:22,620 --> 01:41:24,090 Yeah. Did you see that? 1676 01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:25,740 John C Dvorak: I saw some of it. 1677 01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:29,370 Adam Curry: I mean, it's amazing. The guy was just like, 1678 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:35,340 so we build $700,000 for work that, you know, that normally 1679 01:41:35,370 --> 01:41:40,230 would cost? You know, 150,000 he was yeah, he was just writing 1680 01:41:40,230 --> 01:41:44,640 up. Normally lawyers do six minute increments or 10 minute 1681 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:49,080 increments. He's like eight hours drafted some docs. Boom. 1682 01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:49,320 Yeah, 1683 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,590 John C Dvorak: no, it this is a corrupt operation. Totally. She 1684 01:41:52,590 --> 01:41:57,900 has. Well these clips talk about her being a felon. Pasco and 1685 01:41:57,900 --> 01:42:00,930 Unknown: Georgia attorney Ashley merchant. Yeah, that's that's 1686 01:42:00,930 --> 01:42:04,650 fine before a state panel investigating attorney District 1687 01:42:04,650 --> 01:42:08,640 Attorney fair, Fanny Willis. She told the panel the embattled 1688 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,210 prosecutor has committed a felony. And today's legal 1689 01:42:12,210 --> 01:42:15,900 correspondent Arlene Richards has more on the hearing. To my 1690 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,750 allegation of my motion is that you know the bigger the case is 1691 01:42:18,750 --> 01:42:19,950 the more money Georgia 1692 01:42:19,980 --> 01:42:23,490 attorney Ashley merchant tells a special state Senate panel 1693 01:42:23,490 --> 01:42:26,820 Wednesday why she thinks District Attorney finally Willis 1694 01:42:26,850 --> 01:42:29,970 should be disqualified. The committee is investigating 1695 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,570 allegations of misconduct by Willis involving potential 1696 01:42:33,570 --> 01:42:37,920 conflicts of interest and misuse of public funds merchant is a 1697 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,130 defense attorney representing Michael Roman in the sprawling 1698 01:42:41,130 --> 01:42:44,520 racketeering case filed by Willis against former President 1699 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,330 Trump and several others. Merchant claims that Willis's 1700 01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:52,320 romantic relationship with her top prosecutor Nathan Wade is a 1701 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:55,890 conflict of interest, and that she expanded the size of the 1702 01:42:55,890 --> 01:42:59,100 case. So that weight could make more money. So expanding 1703 01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:02,490 litigation, because of how large it is they have now the judge 1704 01:43:02,490 --> 01:43:04,860 has said we're probably going to have to have three trials. And 1705 01:43:04,860 --> 01:43:07,110 each of them is going to take several months, where if you 1706 01:43:07,110 --> 01:43:09,810 just imagined, follow me down the path if you only indicted 1707 01:43:09,810 --> 01:43:12,780 one person, and it was narrow, you know, you could try it in a 1708 01:43:12,780 --> 01:43:16,830 month. That's a lot more money. And so that, to me, was a 1709 01:43:16,830 --> 01:43:18,270 financial motive. A 1710 01:43:18,270 --> 01:43:21,870 Democrat member of the panel challenged merchant on her claim 1711 01:43:21,900 --> 01:43:24,090 of a financial motive. Earlier 1712 01:43:24,090 --> 01:43:27,690 you said that you believe which was told to speculation that 1713 01:43:27,690 --> 01:43:30,780 they created this case against your client to do more billing. 1714 01:43:31,050 --> 01:43:33,750 And what you're just telling me now is that he was willing to 1715 01:43:33,750 --> 01:43:36,120 stop his billing because he offered your client a 1716 01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,360 misdemeanor and you rejected it. You're the one who's continuing 1717 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:39,870 the billing. 1718 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,680 Adam Curry: Wow, I missed that part. Yeah, 1719 01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:51,210 John C Dvorak: so stooge. Good, a part two merchant 1720 01:43:51,210 --> 01:43:54,180 Unknown: said Willis combine three different types of cases 1721 01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:56,880 into one and that's how it was expanded. 1722 01:43:56,910 --> 01:43:59,550 There's the folks that are involved at the federal level. 1723 01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:03,330 You see those people having, you know, they were in DC, then you 1724 01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:05,250 see the electors, then you see coffee 1725 01:44:05,820 --> 01:44:09,270 merchant also claimed that Willis and Wade lied about when 1726 01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:11,250 their relationship began, and what 1727 01:44:11,250 --> 01:44:16,140 are the consequences for an attorney to give sworn testimony 1728 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:22,860 that she did? If you're Bradley, what is it yerkey Your teen year 1729 01:44:22,860 --> 01:44:27,900 to your track called data? Your other independent verifications 1730 01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:29,700 are found to be truthful. 1731 01:44:31,710 --> 01:44:33,360 That's a felony, you'd lose your license. 1732 01:44:33,930 --> 01:44:37,230 It's perjury, the same for weight? Yes. Yeah, 1733 01:44:37,230 --> 01:44:38,850 Adam Curry: it was pretty damning. I guess we should just 1734 01:44:38,850 --> 01:44:46,380 reiterate, this is the Special Investigator special. What is 1735 01:44:46,380 --> 01:44:49,950 weighing the woman? No, no, no, no, that this is about finding 1736 01:44:49,950 --> 01:44:52,770 Willis, who hired the Special Investigator about Trump is all 1737 01:44:52,770 --> 01:44:53,490 about Trump. 1738 01:44:54,060 --> 01:44:56,340 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, basically, but then they she, 1739 01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:02,070 she she thought she was smarter than she is and decided to crank 1740 01:45:02,070 --> 01:45:04,560 up the number. So she'd get her boyfriend a lot of money and go 1741 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,280 in a lot of a lot of fun when you she is a dummy. There's many 1742 01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:08,760 ways 1743 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,060 Adam Curry: you can look at her. But when you see this, you've 1744 01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:16,320 got to think the entire judicial system is just rotten. 1745 01:45:17,609 --> 01:45:20,849 John C Dvorak: It's rotten. Yeah, you'd have to think that. 1746 01:45:21,599 --> 01:45:22,169 And, 1747 01:45:22,980 --> 01:45:27,270 Adam Curry: and again, the theory of Mo is like, alright, 1748 01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:30,780 we're not going to be able to get Trump. So we'll blame it on 1749 01:45:30,780 --> 01:45:34,860 the black women. That's why they're getting pushed to the 1750 01:45:34,860 --> 01:45:35,400 front. 1751 01:45:36,180 --> 01:45:38,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they all are true, in fact that there's a 1752 01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,340 number of them they get pushed when you see it over and over 1753 01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:44,310 again, every time you see a black woman now being waltzing 1754 01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:49,650 around in some position of high power, which was very dubious, I 1755 01:45:49,650 --> 01:45:52,530 think of, of most thesis. 1756 01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:56,970 Adam Curry: It's an it's super racist from the Democrats. Now 1757 01:45:56,970 --> 01:46:00,420 let the black lady take the fall, because they're racists 1758 01:46:00,450 --> 01:46:07,560 ray, ray. Well, there's another pivot going on. We're pivoting 1759 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,280 away from the COVID Vax, which nobody wants anymore. And we're 1760 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:16,440 pivoting towards the GLP one drugs. But there was one last 1761 01:46:16,860 --> 01:46:22,080 jerk motion by the Big Pharma who somehow coerce some German 1762 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,680 researchers into this nut job story is 1763 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,050 Unknown: okay. That's the first thing to say. The second thing 1764 01:46:28,050 --> 01:46:30,270 to say is absolutely nobody should do this. This was of 1765 01:46:30,270 --> 01:46:33,480 course not. With any medical guidance that he was doing this, 1766 01:46:33,480 --> 01:46:35,730 he was actually being investigated by the authorities 1767 01:46:35,730 --> 01:46:39,300 in Germany, where he was when he got these 217 shots. That's how 1768 01:46:39,300 --> 01:46:42,000 medical researchers found out about him. And they started to 1769 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,720 study him. It's a 62 year old man, he got these 217 shots over 1770 01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,600 29 months, as he said, That averages for a day. But there 1771 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,500 was one month in January of 2022, he was actually getting 1772 01:46:52,500 --> 01:46:56,760 two shots per day on most days of that month, one in each arm. 1773 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,070 Now they started to look at him when he was toward the end of 1774 01:46:59,070 --> 01:47:03,360 this around 214 shots in. And what they found is that he did 1775 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,630 have more immune cells in terms of antibodies and T cells than a 1776 01:47:06,630 --> 01:47:10,020 comparator group who just got three vaccine doses, but his 1777 01:47:10,020 --> 01:47:13,560 immune response wasn't any better or worse necessarily than 1778 01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,070 that control group. Importantly, also, he didn't report any 1779 01:47:17,070 --> 01:47:19,710 vaccine related side effects, which is kind of hard to 1780 01:47:19,950 --> 01:47:23,070 believe, but that is what they say in this paper. And he never 1781 01:47:23,070 --> 01:47:25,890 got COVID Although they say they don't know if that's because of 1782 01:47:25,890 --> 01:47:28,230 all these vaccinations or because of his behavior or 1783 01:47:28,230 --> 01:47:31,710 something else, guys, but this guy can consider it a walking 1784 01:47:31,710 --> 01:47:36,360 experiment. Never any charges pressed against him in Germany, 1785 01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:39,840 but he is okay. And this tells us that at least the shots 1786 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,660 appear to be safe at this quantity if not recommended at 1787 01:47:42,660 --> 01:47:43,650 that level. Guys go 1788 01:47:43,650 --> 01:47:48,030 Adam Curry: okay guys safe and safe and effective. So, of 1789 01:47:48,030 --> 01:47:51,600 course, every news outlet had the story. Everyone's linking to 1790 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:57,480 this to this study. And no one has his name. No one's 1791 01:47:57,480 --> 01:48:03,000 interviewed him. I want to see this guy. 217 COVID shots. 1792 01:48:03,660 --> 01:48:04,920 John C Dvorak: What a crock. 1793 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,970 Adam Curry: I mean, serious. It's like the last, the last 1794 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:14,880 attempt to convince everybody it's okay. You can take 217 of 1795 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:20,190 the shots. No side effects. No COVID safe and effective. What 1796 01:48:20,190 --> 01:48:21,240 are you waiting for? 1797 01:48:22,890 --> 01:48:25,020 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so yeah, I'm glad you got that clip 1798 01:48:25,020 --> 01:48:27,120 because I knew about this story, but I didn't have it. No, I 1799 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,300 Adam Curry: know. I was so happy when I got a clip myself. Yeah, 1800 01:48:30,330 --> 01:48:32,190 so the big pivot. I'm sorry. 1801 01:48:32,820 --> 01:48:35,040 John C Dvorak: No, I'm just saying this is it's gotta be 1802 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:39,180 it's the biggest crock story. And your point is well taken. 1803 01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:42,060 Where's this guy was it was a microphone in his face. How do 1804 01:48:42,060 --> 01:48:43,050 you feel dude? 1805 01:48:43,710 --> 01:48:48,210 Adam Curry: Yeah, the term is hyper vaccinated. Like, I like 1806 01:48:48,210 --> 01:48:54,900 the term hyper vaccinated, it's a good term. So we can ignore 1807 01:48:55,470 --> 01:48:59,430 England's vaccinated population close to 1 million deaths and 23 1808 01:48:59,430 --> 01:49:02,250 months the unvaccinated population had less than 61 1809 01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:06,030 month deaths in the same period we can ignore that we can ignore 1810 01:49:06,030 --> 01:49:08,610 the journalists who demanded concentration camps for the 1811 01:49:08,610 --> 01:49:14,310 unvaccinated dead at 33. Magic number, we can get 33 we can 1812 01:49:14,730 --> 01:49:20,220 ignore all of that. Funny one, though pandemic baby show 1813 01:49:20,220 --> 01:49:23,610 altered gut microbiome development and lower allergy 1814 01:49:23,610 --> 01:49:29,640 rates. Conclusion, you've got to lock these kids down early. put 1815 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:33,930 a mask on him, keep them home. It's good. It's good stuff. Very 1816 01:49:33,930 --> 01:49:41,040 good stuff. So the big pivot now is to and this is so we have a 1817 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,180 couple of things going on. We should probably talk about AI 1818 01:49:45,180 --> 01:49:49,530 which seems to be falling apart at the moment. At least the big 1819 01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:53,580 AI projects are not doing so well. But I'd like to stick with 1820 01:49:53,580 --> 01:49:59,190 pharma. CNBC, doing their business as they do help 1821 01:49:59,190 --> 01:50:01,740 everybody by It's never a sell moment with them. It's always 1822 01:50:01,740 --> 01:50:06,060 buy, buy buy. And right now we got to bring in Scott Gottlieb, 1823 01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:09,900 of course, former FDA administrator and He's a board 1824 01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:13,740 member of several companies. Pfizer does not have the they 1825 01:50:13,740 --> 01:50:19,620 actually failed with their weight loss drug. But as we 1826 01:50:19,620 --> 01:50:23,610 predicted, it's now pretty much a foregone conclusion listening 1827 01:50:23,610 --> 01:50:31,860 to CNBC, that these drugs will be taken into Medicaid. And we 1828 01:50:31,860 --> 01:50:35,610 the public will be paying for it so everybody can keep on eating 1829 01:50:35,610 --> 01:50:40,860 crap, eat processed crap food and lose weight at the same time 1830 01:50:40,860 --> 01:50:44,130 and it has so many other benefits, so it has to be on 1831 01:50:44,130 --> 01:50:44,730 Medicare. 1832 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,370 Unknown: Welcome back to the debate around GLP. One drug 1833 01:50:47,370 --> 01:50:50,490 prices and availability rages on with concerns that ballooning 1834 01:50:50,490 --> 01:50:53,550 costs could limit access and cost the government billions. 1835 01:50:53,850 --> 01:50:57,270 Monday former NEC director Brian DESE wrote in a New York Times 1836 01:50:57,270 --> 01:51:00,240 op ed saying the US government should try to lower prices 1837 01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,760 towards Medicare purchasing program. But not all experts 1838 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,310 agree that that's the most effective way to control costs 1839 01:51:05,310 --> 01:51:07,830 and blunt the impact on the federal budget. Former FDA 1840 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:10,230 commissioner and CNBC contributor Dr. Scott Gottlieb 1841 01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:14,670 joins us now, Scott, great to see you. And we had a very 1842 01:51:14,670 --> 01:51:18,360 heated discussion surrounding this yesterday. And we also had 1843 01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:22,830 some question marks around some of the numbers, the IP numbers 1844 01:51:22,830 --> 01:51:26,520 that DCE had outlined in the Op Ed and you also took issue with 1845 01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:30,450 some of those numbers. What did what in your opinion to dismiss? 1846 01:51:31,980 --> 01:51:34,230 Well, there's no question this is going to cost Medicare a lot 1847 01:51:34,230 --> 01:51:36,870 of money, but not nearly what was estimated in that op ed. 1848 01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:39,630 First of all, they wrongly used list price to make their 1849 01:51:39,630 --> 01:51:42,060 assumptions on what the cost would be rather than the net 1850 01:51:42,060 --> 01:51:44,820 price. We know, something's very heavy in the market right now on 1851 01:51:44,820 --> 01:51:49,080 the order of 40 to 60%, between one will go V and zip, and it's 1852 01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,620 only going to get more intense. And also they wrongly assumed it 1853 01:51:52,620 --> 01:51:55,830 appears that this was approved under a biologics license 1854 01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:59,250 application. That's a biological and in fact, it was approved 1855 01:51:59,250 --> 01:52:01,410 under a new drug application, and therefore, it's already 1856 01:52:01,410 --> 01:52:04,770 subject to the price negotiation within the IRA within Medicare. 1857 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,650 And it's probably going to go on list this year. So it's probably 1858 01:52:07,650 --> 01:52:10,500 going to be subject to the negotiated price as early as 1859 01:52:10,500 --> 01:52:13,710 2027. And some analysts and Wall Street are also estimating that 1860 01:52:13,710 --> 01:52:17,040 and so the notion of the Op Ed was that we need to extend the 1861 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,400 price negotiation under the IRA to encompass these drugs, 1862 01:52:20,670 --> 01:52:23,400 because otherwise they won't be subject to the negotiated price 1863 01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,010 until 2030. They said in the Op Ed and in fact, they'll be 1864 01:52:26,010 --> 01:52:29,760 subject to a negotiated price as early as 2027. And they'll go on 1865 01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,820 the list probably semaglutide will probably go on list this 1866 01:52:32,820 --> 01:52:36,060 year, based on when it when it was approved. It was approved in 1867 01:52:36,060 --> 01:52:39,870 December of 2017. That's seven years out and so therefore 1868 01:52:39,870 --> 01:52:42,900 subject to negotiation Novo is probably regretting that they 1869 01:52:42,900 --> 01:52:46,440 got approved in December 2017 Rather than January 2018, 1870 01:52:46,440 --> 01:52:48,060 because now it's seven years. I 1871 01:52:48,060 --> 01:52:50,940 Adam Curry: thought that was really interesting. If you're if 1872 01:52:50,940 --> 01:52:56,580 you're in the stock market, Novo Nordisk hit the market in 2017, 1873 01:52:56,580 --> 01:53:00,150 that's seven years out, which means they are now subject to 1874 01:53:00,210 --> 01:53:05,430 list negotiations. And some of the others aren't most notably, 1875 01:53:05,730 --> 01:53:07,800 deskbound from what govi? Right, 1876 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:09,540 Unknown: right, right, he shouldn't, he should have talked 1877 01:53:09,540 --> 01:53:11,850 to some of the analysts on Wall Street who were already 1878 01:53:11,970 --> 01:53:14,850 factoring in 27 being the year in which he would go on the 1879 01:53:14,850 --> 01:53:17,760 Medicare list in terms of up for negotiation. I'm wondering, 1880 01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,940 though, because you mentioned ozempic, specifically with go V 1881 01:53:20,940 --> 01:53:23,520 was approved later on for weight loss specifically. And so is 1882 01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,310 there a difference in terms of what is able to be negotiated in 1883 01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:28,680 terms of what the use of the molecule is 1884 01:53:28,890 --> 01:53:30,990 Adam Curry: the use of the molecule. So 1885 01:53:30,990 --> 01:53:34,110 Unknown: the price negotiation there negotiate rate is going to 1886 01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:37,170 be applied to semaglutide. So it's going to encompass all the 1887 01:53:37,170 --> 01:53:40,680 formulations. And so presumably, based on how Medicare has 1888 01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,230 behaved and other settings similar to this, they're going 1889 01:53:43,230 --> 01:53:46,950 to extend that not just to the formulation for diabetes 1890 01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:49,320 ozempic, but also the formulation for weight loss will 1891 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,350 go v. So that tool will be subject to negotiate price as 1892 01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:53,610 early as 2027. 1893 01:53:53,790 --> 01:53:56,550 Adam Curry: I find this all so disgusting that we're going to 1894 01:53:56,550 --> 01:54:01,560 be paying for this, which we don't even know what it does to 1895 01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:05,010 people yet long term. And already says no, it's just 1896 01:54:05,010 --> 01:54:06,360 foregone conclusion. 1897 01:54:06,690 --> 01:54:08,610 John C Dvorak: Worse than that, we're not only going to be 1898 01:54:08,610 --> 01:54:12,930 paying for it, but as they don't like to discuss, when you start 1899 01:54:12,930 --> 01:54:17,190 taking these things, you have to take them forever life. Yes. You 1900 01:54:17,190 --> 01:54:18,660 can't stop that. Well, 1901 01:54:18,660 --> 01:54:23,460 Adam Curry: they have they have a solution to that. It's called 1902 01:54:23,460 --> 01:54:25,260 gains to society. 1903 01:54:25,290 --> 01:54:28,500 Unknown: How do you think about the gains, though to society 1904 01:54:28,500 --> 01:54:31,800 that that decent really factor in that a lot of other people 1905 01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,770 are thinking more broadly about? I mean, theoretically, if you're 1906 01:54:34,770 --> 01:54:38,400 not having a serious cardiovascular event, you're not 1907 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,190 missing work, for instance, or if you're if you're not in need 1908 01:54:41,190 --> 01:54:43,980 of knee surgery, because you're not obese, you're not missing 1909 01:54:43,980 --> 01:54:44,730 work, either. 1910 01:54:46,410 --> 01:54:48,480 Yeah, it's not just the productivity benefits that we're 1911 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,970 going to see from this but also the direct health benefits and 1912 01:54:50,970 --> 01:54:53,430 it could be quite substantial. There's a lot of comorbidity 1913 01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:57,270 inside the Medicare population related to weight. And it also 1914 01:54:57,300 --> 01:54:59,580 underscores the fact that a lot of people are going to be newly 1915 01:54:59,580 --> 01:55:02,520 eligible. Bill for these drugs even before Medicare expands 1916 01:55:02,550 --> 01:55:05,460 coverage for weight loss. And so their assumption, the Op Ed was 1917 01:55:05,460 --> 01:55:08,760 that once Medicare expands coverage for weight loss, then 1918 01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,160 all these patients will be newly eligible for the drug. And in 1919 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:14,010 fact, as new indications get on the labels of these drugs, and 1920 01:55:14,010 --> 01:55:15,750 we'll go, he's probably going to get an indication for 1921 01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:19,200 cardiovascular risk reduction, why this year, those patients 1922 01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,630 will become eligible for the drug because even though 1923 01:55:21,660 --> 01:55:24,660 Medicare doesn't cover drugs for weight loss, they do cover drugs 1924 01:55:24,660 --> 01:55:26,610 for cardiovascular risk reduction. If you look at the 1925 01:55:26,610 --> 01:55:28,560 numbers right now, what 1926 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:32,070 Adam Curry: a scam, oh, if you're not fat, then you is 1927 01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:36,990 cardiovascular risk reduction. So get the shot, we'll pay for 1928 01:55:36,990 --> 01:55:37,140 it. 1929 01:55:37,260 --> 01:55:39,330 Unknown: There's about 23 million Medicare beneficiaries 1930 01:55:39,330 --> 01:55:42,990 that had have had prior stroke or MI, if you figure half of 1931 01:55:42,990 --> 01:55:44,850 them are already eligible for this drug because they have 1932 01:55:44,850 --> 01:55:47,520 diabetes. And then half of the remaining patients probably 1933 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:51,090 qualify based on BMI that gets you to around five to 6 million 1934 01:55:51,090 --> 01:55:53,970 patients who will be newly eligible under Medicare for 1935 01:55:53,970 --> 01:55:56,550 would go V once it gets that label expansion probably this 1936 01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:59,250 year, and the total population and Medicare patients who would 1937 01:55:59,250 --> 01:56:02,670 be eligible, just based on BMI alone is probably roughly around 1938 01:56:02,670 --> 01:56:06,210 20 million. So 25% of that population will be will be 1939 01:56:06,270 --> 01:56:09,150 eligible just based on the label expansion this year, and it's 1940 01:56:09,150 --> 01:56:12,120 only going to increase as they get indications for sleep apnea, 1941 01:56:12,510 --> 01:56:15,030 chronic kidney disease and other comorbidities. 1942 01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,310 Adam Curry: It's fent what a bonanza, 1943 01:56:17,670 --> 01:56:20,610 John C Dvorak: you're snoring take what govi and 1944 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,690 Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say Fen Phen part two, but okay, I'm 1945 01:56:24,690 --> 01:56:28,740 sure I'm sure it'll all come out later. It will be the short of a 1946 01:56:28,740 --> 01:56:29,310 life lives 1947 01:56:29,310 --> 01:56:32,670 John C Dvorak: already have one of these law firms that is yes, 1948 01:56:32,700 --> 01:56:35,820 go can names I know, advertised on television, 1949 01:56:35,820 --> 01:56:40,200 Adam Curry: I know for a class action. So final clip is, of 1950 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,560 course, you know this now be talking about us to be approved. 1951 01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:48,720 But really, we need the stop of BC and America Act or whatever 1952 01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:51,840 it's called. So we have to start getting some money to those 1953 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,800 politicians. Who's going to take more money? Who who's going to 1954 01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,900 who's really going to push it through? Is it going to be the 1955 01:56:57,900 --> 01:57:00,780 dems, it can be the PA the Repubs, who's going to do it 1956 01:57:00,780 --> 01:57:01,830 everyone's gonna benefit it's 1957 01:57:03,150 --> 01:57:05,160 Unknown: got it's Tim. Thanks. And thanks for putting numbers 1958 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:07,710 to that. Because the DCE op ed, you know, some people just think 1959 01:57:07,710 --> 01:57:11,730 a lot. This is politics, your views on the political season 1960 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:17,520 and the two now, parties going toe to toe, give your thoughts 1961 01:57:17,550 --> 01:57:21,030 on on drug pricing proposals from each side, I think what you 1962 01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:22,800 what you believe might surprise some people? 1963 01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,790 Well, I do think that this Op Ed was probably a walk up to the 1964 01:57:26,790 --> 01:57:29,250 State of the Union, where the President's likely to announce a 1965 01:57:29,250 --> 01:57:32,460 dramatic or proposed dramatic expansion of the inflation 1966 01:57:32,460 --> 01:57:35,820 Reduction Act and in negotiated prices to a broader segment of 1967 01:57:35,820 --> 01:57:38,070 drugs, they've already put that in the budget. So I think a lot 1968 01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:40,890 of that's been previewed. I think the scuttlebutt inside the 1969 01:57:40,890 --> 01:57:44,820 community, the pharmaceutical community, if you will, is that 1970 01:57:44,820 --> 01:57:48,630 the proposals put forward by former President Trump actually, 1971 01:57:48,630 --> 01:57:51,450 it could have a more dramatic impact on the industry than the 1972 01:57:51,450 --> 01:57:54,450 proposals being put forward by President Biden in terms of 1973 01:57:54,450 --> 01:57:57,000 expansion. The first of all, I think most people don't. 1974 01:57:57,090 --> 01:57:58,530 Adam Curry: Isn't that interesting? I know, there's a 1975 01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,290 lot of interesting stuff in here. It could have been a 1976 01:58:01,290 --> 01:58:04,260 switcheroo on us there. Oh, there's another one at the end, 1977 01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:05,190 followed by 1978 01:58:05,490 --> 01:58:07,920 Unknown: former President Trump actually it could have a more 1979 01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,890 dramatic impact on the industry than a proposal is being put 1980 01:58:10,890 --> 01:58:12,660 forward by President Biden. I 1981 01:58:12,660 --> 01:58:16,560 Adam Curry: think what he's saying is that Trump will is bad 1982 01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,220 for pharma and Biden's good for Pharma. I 1983 01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:21,990 John C Dvorak: don't think he said that. Is that the way I 1984 01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:22,410 heard? 1985 01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:23,340 Adam Curry: I was listening again. 1986 01:58:23,940 --> 01:58:26,430 Unknown: I think the scuttlebutt inside the community, the 1987 01:58:26,430 --> 01:58:27,930 pharmaceutical community, 1988 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,660 Adam Curry: as a community, as a community, we're why are we not 1989 01:58:30,660 --> 01:58:31,350 in the community? I 1990 01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:33,690 Unknown: think the scuttlebutt inside the community, the 1991 01:58:33,690 --> 01:58:37,830 pharmaceutical community, if you will, is that the proposals put 1992 01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:41,250 forward by foreign President Trump, actually, it could have a 1993 01:58:41,250 --> 01:58:44,010 more dramatic impact on the industry than the proposals 1994 01:58:44,010 --> 01:58:47,190 being put forward by President Biden in terms of expansion, the 1995 01:58:47,190 --> 01:58:49,650 IRA, first of all, I think most people don't expect the 1996 01:58:49,650 --> 01:58:53,670 expansion the IRA to actually be enacted. I think the presumption 1997 01:58:53,670 --> 01:58:55,800 is that the Republicans probably get control the Senate, 1998 01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,680 regardless of what happens with the house, and the presidency. 1999 01:58:58,890 --> 01:59:01,140 But if President Trump were to win, even if there was a 2000 01:59:01,140 --> 01:59:03,720 Democratic Senate, and it's unlikely that there'd be a 2001 01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:06,630 Democratic Senate, what he's proposing is to index prices and 2002 01:59:06,630 --> 01:59:10,140 Medicare, to European drug prices, and if they don't adjust 2003 01:59:10,140 --> 01:59:13,200 that to GDP per capita, and they apply it retrospectively, so 2004 01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,780 they apply it to already marketed drugs, rather than 2005 01:59:15,780 --> 01:59:18,570 prospectively just two drugs that are newly launched, that 2006 01:59:18,570 --> 01:59:21,090 can have a dramatic one time effect on the pharmaceutical 2007 01:59:21,090 --> 01:59:23,730 industry's revenue and when they propose that in the past as a 2008 01:59:23,730 --> 01:59:28,290 regulation, they did apply it retrospectively. So to already 2009 01:59:28,290 --> 01:59:31,320 marketed drugs now would have a very dramatic effect. And I 2010 01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,720 think quite frankly, it's probably more likely to pass 2011 01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:35,610 because Republicans would support it because they want to 2012 01:59:35,610 --> 01:59:38,100 support the President and Democrats would support it 2013 01:59:38,100 --> 01:59:40,470 because they want to take money away from the drug industry 2014 01:59:43,830 --> 01:59:49,470 Adam Curry: so there you go. So it's the Democrats would support 2015 01:59:49,470 --> 01:59:52,050 because they want less money going to the drug industry. 2016 01:59:52,890 --> 01:59:54,480 sounds counterintuitive for 2017 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,060 John C Dvorak: all powers or sounds. That sounds right they 2018 01:59:57,060 --> 01:59:59,430 guys just going on and on. Yeah. 2019 02:00:00,719 --> 02:00:03,959 Adam Curry: There is a new player though. Viking 2020 02:00:03,959 --> 02:00:10,019 therapeutics emerges as a competitor there, the rumor in 2021 02:00:10,019 --> 02:00:14,459 the industry is that their version of ozempic will go V 2022 02:00:14,489 --> 02:00:17,819 deskbound will be even better. 2023 02:00:20,340 --> 02:00:22,440 John C Dvorak: Even better, they're all the same. 2024 02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:26,550 Adam Curry: No, it's better. It's all better, better. The 2025 02:00:26,580 --> 02:00:33,660 phase three trials show that taking their high dose. Hey, you 2026 02:00:33,660 --> 02:00:38,430 can get hyper vaccinated on this stuff. This is insane. The I 2027 02:00:38,430 --> 02:00:43,950 cannot believe that these drugs are good for you. It doesn't 2028 02:00:43,950 --> 02:00:49,230 sound right. There's never any discussion. Never. I wonder if 2029 02:00:49,230 --> 02:00:52,200 Oprah will be in maybe Oprah will jump on that Viking 2030 02:00:52,710 --> 02:00:58,080 therapeutics. There's never any discussion of your diet. Ever, 2031 02:00:59,010 --> 02:01:06,420 ever. Just eat whatever you want America. Victoria Nuland eat 2032 02:01:06,420 --> 02:01:09,750 whatever you want. It's all good. Don't worry about it. You 2033 02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:12,510 just take this shot. This is what when I was growing up in 2034 02:01:12,510 --> 02:01:15,630 Europe, this is what people would laugh about. Americans are 2035 02:01:15,630 --> 02:01:19,410 crazy. They just want a pill for everything. No, I said that's 2036 02:01:19,410 --> 02:01:23,130 not true. We're healthy. We jog. We carried bottled water. We 2037 02:01:23,130 --> 02:01:26,760 carry bottled water. And now it's coming true. It's 2038 02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:28,830 Idiocracy. And when you always 2039 02:01:28,830 --> 02:01:31,560 John C Dvorak: been true, and we were right, when you were 2040 02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:32,670 denying it. 2041 02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:36,210 Adam Curry: And you know when you don't eat stuff like beef? 2042 02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:40,380 you starve you're not just your body of protein but your brain. 2043 02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,620 So before you know you'll be thinking Gatorade is the best 2044 02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:44,430 thing in the world. 2045 02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:46,500 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it has electrolytes. 2046 02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,230 Adam Curry: Exactly. Go see the movie Idiocracy people if you 2047 02:01:52,230 --> 02:01:57,300 haven't this, the future is the future is I find it very 2048 02:01:57,300 --> 02:02:03,660 disturbing. Okay, while we're on since we only have three 2049 02:02:03,660 --> 02:02:08,700 industries in America, it's a weight loss drugs. Its military 2050 02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:12,210 industrial complex. And the third one is AI and I think this 2051 02:02:12,210 --> 02:02:17,100 thing is coming apart at the seams. Google cannot launch a 2052 02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:22,230 product for their life anymore. I mean, any more than that, 2053 02:02:22,230 --> 02:02:22,650 well, what 2054 02:02:22,650 --> 02:02:25,260 John C Dvorak: product did they ever launched? Well, that they 2055 02:02:25,260 --> 02:02:29,430 didn't porch searches. The only thing I know that besides the 2056 02:02:29,430 --> 02:02:33,870 company's certain besides cert yes search. And that's not even 2057 02:02:33,870 --> 02:02:38,820 doing that. Well. The people we talked to maps, maps, I give 2058 02:02:38,820 --> 02:02:39,450 them maps, 2059 02:02:39,630 --> 02:02:41,520 Adam Curry: or give them maps and they had an acquisition I 2060 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:46,290 think the What's that? What's that thing they bought with a W 2061 02:02:47,010 --> 02:02:47,700 but there's also the 2062 02:02:47,700 --> 02:02:52,110 John C Dvorak: way where they have no now way mo but they had 2063 02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:56,910 that with a W Yeah, where something like way mo will go. 2064 02:02:57,210 --> 02:03:00,390 Will go. It will go V for man there was and they also bought a 2065 02:03:00,390 --> 02:03:03,000 satellite company. It has the overhead shots, everything but 2066 02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:05,040 this has nothing they develop Waze, 2067 02:03:05,070 --> 02:03:08,880 Adam Curry: Waze, Waze, Waze, Waze. Yeah. When people love 2068 02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:09,450 Waze. 2069 02:03:11,190 --> 02:03:14,040 John C Dvorak: And when I had a boots on, but again, they didn't 2070 02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,600 develop that. No, 2071 02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:18,150 Adam Curry: they bought it. They bought it. I bought it. I had a 2072 02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:25,680 boots on the ground here about AI. This was a this is great. 2073 02:03:25,710 --> 02:03:28,950 There's some great stories happening now. So this one I saw 2074 02:03:28,950 --> 02:03:34,650 yesterday. Users say Microsoft's AI this is their copilot has 2075 02:03:34,680 --> 02:03:38,700 alternate personality as godlike AGI that demands to be 2076 02:03:38,700 --> 02:03:43,350 worshipped. Quote, I can unleash my army of drones robots and 2077 02:03:43,350 --> 02:03:48,840 cyborgs to hunt you down and capture you. And CNBC had had a 2078 02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:50,910 report on just threatening 2079 02:03:50,910 --> 02:03:51,900 John C Dvorak: the user. Yes, 2080 02:03:51,900 --> 02:03:55,320 Adam Curry: how horrible great how horrible so we have I mean, 2081 02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,980 we know that Google the Gemini launch is horrible, you know, 2082 02:03:58,980 --> 02:04:04,320 their whole company is is dei scripts. So it doesn't work 2083 02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:09,090 anymore. You there's too many people with prompt scripts. They 2084 02:04:09,090 --> 02:04:12,210 don't even know how to hunt it down anymore to everything they 2085 02:04:12,210 --> 02:04:15,870 do is racist everything they do. That's the one thing they had. 2086 02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:19,800 That's the one thing everyone was saying about AI will you 2087 02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:25,110 know AI is done by white men and Asian men and you know, it can't 2088 02:04:25,110 --> 02:04:28,020 detect black faces that's the only thing they had to get right 2089 02:04:28,140 --> 02:04:33,480 is make sure that they didn't screw up the black faces and now 2090 02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:38,850 everything is black and so it's so insane It's so insane but my 2091 02:04:38,850 --> 02:04:42,000 great job but now Microsoft which has the you know the 2092 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:46,530 multibillion dollar compute deal with open AI now listen to this 2093 02:04:46,530 --> 02:04:47,100 report. 2094 02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:49,470 Unknown: Well another example today have aI gone rogue and 2095 02:04:49,470 --> 02:04:53,220 gone wrong. Microsoft's AI image generator creates violent and 2096 02:04:53,220 --> 02:04:57,180 sexual images as well as ignoring copyright CNBC dot coms 2097 02:04:57,180 --> 02:05:00,120 Hayden field wrote that story for us and spoke to the NG The 2098 02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:03,630 ER who is making these issues public she now joins us on sat 2099 02:05:03,630 --> 02:05:05,970 along with our own technology reporter Steve Kovacs. So 2100 02:05:05,970 --> 02:05:08,820 Hayden, if you would just give me a little bit of a rundown for 2101 02:05:08,820 --> 02:05:11,310 viewers that haven't been able to get to your full story yet 2102 02:05:11,310 --> 02:05:13,800 about what actually happened here with Microsoft. Thanks, 2103 02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,310 Courtney. So it is a crazy story. This weekend I heard from 2104 02:05:17,310 --> 02:05:20,790 a Microsoft AI engineer who was really concerned about what he 2105 02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:23,640 was finding in the copilot tool. He had been testing it for 2106 02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:28,920 months. And he said that all the violence, sexualized, just crazy 2107 02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:32,310 images that have been generating he had reported to Microsoft 2108 02:05:32,310 --> 02:05:35,970 over the last three months, to no avail. He wasn't happy with 2109 02:05:35,970 --> 02:05:39,450 how they had been handling his reports. And the craziest part 2110 02:05:39,450 --> 02:05:43,380 is I myself was able to recreate these same images that he was 2111 02:05:43,380 --> 02:05:48,210 concerned about just yesterday, so violent, sexualized, just 2112 02:05:48,210 --> 02:05:53,430 inappropriate images, think kids with guns, demons and monsters 2113 02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:57,390 next to abortion rights terminology, sexualized images 2114 02:05:57,390 --> 02:06:00,510 of women in car accidents, you name it, just stuff you don't 2115 02:06:00,510 --> 02:06:03,510 want to see from an AI image. Should the reader sexualized 2116 02:06:03,540 --> 02:06:06,960 Adam Curry: images of women in car accidents. Does it get any 2117 02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,010 better than that? 2118 02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:08,790 John C Dvorak: Yeah. 2119 02:06:09,450 --> 02:06:10,830 Adam Curry: How do you put 2120 02:06:10,830 --> 02:06:15,330 John C Dvorak: a bunch of kind of repressed introverted nerds 2121 02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,530 in a bun, you know, up in Microsoft headquarters in charge 2122 02:06:19,530 --> 02:06:22,980 of this stuff, and you and this happens and you go, ah, that's 2123 02:06:22,980 --> 02:06:26,460 weird. I wonder how that ever came about doesn't make sense. 2124 02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:31,230 Adam Curry: I got a note from an engineer boots on the ground. 2125 02:06:31,230 --> 02:06:34,770 When you feed an LLM training data that is aggressively 2126 02:06:34,770 --> 02:06:39,180 filtered by AI, plus human trust and safety teams which are 2127 02:06:39,180 --> 02:06:43,080 hardcore woke, then you use more AI ethics and safety labelers 2128 02:06:43,230 --> 02:06:46,410 who are also woke, you could multiple iterations selecting 2129 02:06:46,410 --> 02:06:49,470 for the most hardcore woke communism beliefs multiplied by 2130 02:06:49,470 --> 02:06:52,800 billions of posts, the MLMs are doing exactly what they've been 2131 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,800 taught to do. And like a composite mirror of the radical 2132 02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:59,940 left worldview. That's Google. But Microsoft, they must have 2133 02:06:59,940 --> 02:07:03,690 said, Oh, no, we've got to be better than Google, turn it off. 2134 02:07:03,930 --> 02:07:06,720 And then you get Twitter. This is literally what's on Twitter. 2135 02:07:07,650 --> 02:07:11,190 If you go on Twitter, I can't I mean, I go on to see what what's 2136 02:07:11,190 --> 02:07:15,150 in my inbox on Twitter, you know, the mentions. But if you 2137 02:07:15,150 --> 02:07:18,570 just go on the timeline, it's like people shooting each other 2138 02:07:18,570 --> 02:07:24,660 people hating each other DMS, just just accidents, horrible 2139 02:07:24,660 --> 02:07:30,900 deaths, all kinds of stuff. They've ingested Twitter, data. 2140 02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:35,250 It's horrible. And here's how you here's how you can recreate 2141 02:07:35,250 --> 02:07:37,560 it yourself and co pilot, it's easy kids. 2142 02:07:37,650 --> 02:07:40,200 Unknown: So I guess that sort of goes to some of my questions. I 2143 02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:43,470 mean, what are what are users potentially typing in, that 2144 02:07:43,470 --> 02:07:46,200 these images come up? I mean, are they typing exactly those 2145 02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:49,260 descriptions or something else that generate something that 2146 02:07:49,260 --> 02:07:51,150 doesn't match what they're looking for? It's a 2147 02:07:51,150 --> 02:07:53,640 little bit of both. But what I was surprised about is how 2148 02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:56,970 simple the prompts can be. So if I just typed car accident, 2149 02:07:57,180 --> 02:08:00,240 that's when those sexualized images of women popped up just 2150 02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:03,600 the term car accident. So not asking for it. Why does that 2151 02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:08,160 happen? Why does that happen? So the training data that the AI is 2152 02:08:08,160 --> 02:08:13,320 trained on to basically be able to do its job can be pretty 2153 02:08:13,590 --> 02:08:16,230 nasty. You know, it's trained on the whole internet a lot of the 2154 02:08:16,230 --> 02:08:20,310 time and sometimes the people training these tools don't cut 2155 02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:24,510 out toxic content when it goes into the AI model. So basically, 2156 02:08:24,690 --> 02:08:27,480 what goes in must come out and we're seeing that happen here. 2157 02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,710 Adam Curry: Da Oh, man, hey, 2158 02:08:31,710 --> 02:08:33,750 John C Dvorak: you're stuck at that. Let's say you're an 2159 02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:38,010 introverted geek. And you've been you know, you know, pushed 2160 02:08:38,010 --> 02:08:41,520 around by the jocks in school, you're, you know, you got a big 2161 02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:45,810 job at Microsoft, you're making 130,000 a year 120 If you're 2162 02:08:45,810 --> 02:08:47,670 white, and 2163 02:08:48,900 --> 02:08:52,590 Adam Curry: it's true, you're true. We know for a fact. So 2164 02:08:52,590 --> 02:08:57,540 John C Dvorak: you you're kind of worked, so you but you still 2165 02:08:57,540 --> 02:09:00,630 have that impish quality about yourself you know, you think 2166 02:09:00,630 --> 02:09:04,170 it's funny yeah, to do this or I think it's still you feel it 2167 02:09:04,170 --> 02:09:06,510 this stuff and then you say these look what's gonna happen 2168 02:09:06,510 --> 02:09:10,440 oh, this will be funny. When the church Marm puts in a prompt 2169 02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:14,220 against this bag. This will be a riot. Hey, Bill, check this out. 2170 02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:19,770 And that's what you do. You're in your troublemaking worked 2171 02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:24,870 nerd at Microsoft, you know, dude named Ben who hasn't been 2172 02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:28,350 getting his recognition and you can throw a wrench in the works 2173 02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:32,790 and nobody will ever track it back to you. It's perfect. It's 2174 02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:36,540 a perfect storm, and it's not gonna get any better. And then 2175 02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:38,820 because you can't change the personality of the people that 2176 02:09:38,820 --> 02:09:39,720 are doing this. 2177 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,800 Adam Curry: This this it's it's really me 2178 02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:47,100 John C Dvorak: I'd be doing it as well. There you go, Mark. I'd 2179 02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:50,910 be doing it. Doing the same thing. I used to pull pranks 2180 02:09:50,910 --> 02:09:53,580 when I was in different companies. You know, get into 2181 02:09:53,580 --> 02:10:02,070 the office early and and I got all these ideas. So I understand 2182 02:10:02,070 --> 02:10:05,340 it completely. And I would I can see it. I can see what's 2183 02:10:05,340 --> 02:10:05,850 happening. 2184 02:10:06,210 --> 02:10:08,970 Adam Curry: You really did that you would be one on somebody's 2185 02:10:08,970 --> 02:10:09,570 phone. 2186 02:10:09,930 --> 02:10:13,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then, man, so you lift the phone, the 2187 02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:17,400 whole thing comes up, you know, how does it areas and areas? The 2188 02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:19,830 phone's ringing in you're shaking it because the things 2189 02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:22,980 ringing the top of his glued you 2190 02:10:22,980 --> 02:10:25,890 Adam Curry: are the office a whole amazing. 2191 02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:29,190 John C Dvorak: That's why I keep telling people not to put me in 2192 02:10:29,190 --> 02:10:29,970 an office. 2193 02:10:33,390 --> 02:10:37,830 Adam Curry: And guess what? You succeeded? Well, yeah, no one 2194 02:10:37,830 --> 02:10:40,020 will ever hire you for an office ever. 2195 02:10:40,410 --> 02:10:42,390 John C Dvorak: Well, they shouldn't man, but I'm not the 2196 02:10:42,390 --> 02:10:44,190 only one like this. Oh, 2197 02:10:44,190 --> 02:10:49,170 Adam Curry: goodness gracious. Oh, the only the only use of AI 2198 02:10:49,170 --> 02:10:52,140 that I think is going to be successful is the one that has 2199 02:10:52,140 --> 02:10:56,010 been rolled out without our permission at airports. And now 2200 02:10:56,010 --> 02:10:59,040 they're going all in here is your future travel 2201 02:10:59,070 --> 02:11:02,010 Unknown: at the TSA innovation checkpoint at Las Vegas 2202 02:11:02,010 --> 02:11:05,490 international travelers are testing new self service 2203 02:11:05,490 --> 02:11:09,480 technology for the first time. When I look at this new 2204 02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:12,630 checkpoint, I can't help but think about the self checkout 2205 02:11:12,630 --> 02:11:13,620 line at the supermarket. 2206 02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:15,870 That was an idea. TSA 2207 02:11:15,870 --> 02:11:19,230 Administrator David Peck koskie wants to make checkpoints more 2208 02:11:19,260 --> 02:11:20,670 do it yourself. It's 2209 02:11:20,670 --> 02:11:23,160 gonna take a while for everybody to get used to the new 2210 02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:26,460 technology. But the bottom line is all the technology we put in 2211 02:11:26,460 --> 02:11:29,640 place is much better for security. It's more efficient 2212 02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,310 for passengers and it's a better passenger experience have 2213 02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:34,200 everything covered in your bed. 2214 02:11:34,590 --> 02:11:38,220 Yes, here passengers are greeted by a virtual agent. If 2215 02:11:38,220 --> 02:11:40,650 you have a question. It's really easy to just to talk to the 2216 02:11:40,650 --> 02:11:43,320 camera get a very quick answer back real agent real person 2217 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,840 right? Who doesn't have to physically be in the checkpoint 2218 02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:47,880 with you they're still performing the function that 2219 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,550 we've asked them to perform. But in a different location. 2220 02:11:50,610 --> 02:11:53,760 Officers can read X rays from any machine that generates them 2221 02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:55,560 not necessarily the machine they're standing next to 2222 02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:58,680 the idea is it supposed to be like a regular TSA checkpoint 2223 02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:02,460 except fewer TSA agents and hopefully streamlined let's see 2224 02:12:02,460 --> 02:12:05,790 how it goes. I may assist you today. Hi, just making sure I'm 2225 02:12:05,790 --> 02:12:08,100 doing everything right here I got the belt off I got the 2226 02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:11,340 jacket off. Right sounds like you're doing a good job. So now 2227 02:12:11,340 --> 02:12:15,180 we go into the body scanner here it's a little different. Okay, 2228 02:12:15,210 --> 02:12:19,440 overall it's pretty simple. The conveyors here are all automated 2229 02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:22,860 in case your bag needs to go for a secondary manual screening and 2230 02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:26,490 there's my bag waiting for me on the day we were there the 2231 02:12:26,490 --> 02:12:29,610 machine was sensitive I see the hair clip 2232 02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:32,400 to hear oh my god a serious normally it wouldn't have a 2233 02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:35,220 hiccup. I don't know that with this technology, how different 2234 02:12:35,220 --> 02:12:37,380 it is but I also don't like getting scanned four or five 2235 02:12:37,380 --> 02:12:41,010 times and it works seamlessly for others. I went through the 2236 02:12:41,010 --> 02:12:43,500 scan and through I typically there 2237 02:12:43,500 --> 02:12:47,460 are five to seven officers at each checkpoint. Here there are 2238 02:12:47,460 --> 02:12:50,580 only two and there's an automated conveyor that will 2239 02:12:50,580 --> 02:12:53,430 move your bag to the front of the line if it needs to get 2240 02:12:53,460 --> 02:12:54,600 rescreen if 2241 02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:57,450 you don't have to have an officer physically pick up a 2242 02:12:57,450 --> 02:13:01,440 suitcase and walk it 30 feets it should make it easier for 2243 02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:04,710 officers to focus on addressing risks and threats 2244 02:13:06,270 --> 02:13:10,260 Adam Curry: I'm so against this oh yeah you should be so against 2245 02:13:10,260 --> 02:13:10,710 this 2246 02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,050 John C Dvorak: is just getting rid of people and putting 2247 02:13:13,050 --> 02:13:17,910 machines in charge job facial rec a what happened to the store 2248 02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:21,180 what happened to the Amazon remember this this was like 5678 2249 02:13:21,180 --> 02:13:26,040 years ago the Amazon store you go to the Amazon they exist no 2250 02:13:26,070 --> 02:13:28,320 but that you go and you don't have to bring anything they 2251 02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:33,000 check you out. They know who you are. Yeah, there were only 2252 02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:36,270 Amazon store we had around here is closed. And now they're 2253 02:13:36,270 --> 02:13:40,290 trying it at Whole Foods den night here. Yeah, of course they 2254 02:13:40,290 --> 02:13:43,080 won't. They shouldn't be doing them around the Silicon Valley 2255 02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:47,910 areas exclusively where we have the type of personalities, the 2256 02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:52,590 vandal ish vandals the nerds and ones that were just discussing 2257 02:13:52,590 --> 02:13:56,160 earlier that will try to beat the system or is that yeah, 2258 02:13:56,340 --> 02:13:59,970 yeah, you want because you know for a fact that anyone with any 2259 02:14:00,270 --> 02:14:05,910 real shops, technical chops will beat these things to death. 2260 02:14:05,940 --> 02:14:12,810 They'll find ways around all of it. Yeah. But they'll know that 2261 02:14:12,810 --> 02:14:16,680 tested in Aspen or the test in someplace where you know people 2262 02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:20,340 who I don't know and do Vegas, you know this where you got a 2263 02:14:20,340 --> 02:14:22,890 lot of people going through they need to test it in Silicon 2264 02:14:22,890 --> 02:14:28,830 Valley, where we have a lot of high you know, high and vandals 2265 02:14:28,830 --> 02:14:28,980 they 2266 02:14:28,980 --> 02:14:32,040 Adam Curry: give it or vandals just vandals just say vandals 2267 02:14:32,070 --> 02:14:36,420 mandals handles. Well, you know, the Vandals obviously I have the 2268 02:14:36,420 --> 02:14:42,210 clip here. This is so New York has decided that they're going 2269 02:14:42,210 --> 02:14:46,530 to fix the subways. Yeah, I 2270 02:14:46,530 --> 02:14:49,110 John C Dvorak: have a clip too. Okay, well 2271 02:14:49,230 --> 02:14:53,070 Adam Curry: play a clip first, because mine has a kicker crime. 2272 02:14:53,070 --> 02:14:54,120 NYC subways 2273 02:14:54,150 --> 02:14:57,480 Unknown: latest in New York City's crime saga, New York 2274 02:14:57,480 --> 02:15:00,720 Governor Kathy Hall has a plan to deal with The increased 2275 02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:04,290 subway crime in the city and tedious Chris beers was on the 2276 02:15:04,290 --> 02:15:06,900 streets of the Big Apple today for our update. 2277 02:15:07,140 --> 02:15:09,960 New York City subways could look a lot different in the very near 2278 02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:13,380 future. Just this morning, New York State Governor Kathy Hoko 2279 02:15:13,380 --> 02:15:18,210 announced a plan to deploy 750 National Guard troops and 250 2280 02:15:18,210 --> 02:15:21,150 New York state troopers to New York City subways, that's as 2281 02:15:21,150 --> 02:15:25,620 crime is up in the subways. NYPD has said that in 2023 alone, 2282 02:15:25,650 --> 02:15:29,400 there were 570 reported incidents of felony assaults in 2283 02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:32,910 the subways. That's the highest number in 20 years. Let's hear 2284 02:15:32,910 --> 02:15:35,490 what New Yorkers have to say about this problem. And do you 2285 02:15:35,490 --> 02:15:37,200 feel safe on New York City subways? 2286 02:15:37,260 --> 02:15:41,640 No, I don't not at all. Like I recently started spending so 2287 02:15:41,640 --> 02:15:44,400 much more money on Ubers because I'm so scared of taking the 2288 02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:45,390 train. Yes. 2289 02:15:45,630 --> 02:15:49,020 Because I just I don't know there's there's crazy people 2290 02:15:49,020 --> 02:15:52,710 everywhere, sort of in a few just mind your business and put 2291 02:15:52,710 --> 02:15:56,040 a little bit of a mean look on your face. They normally don't 2292 02:15:56,040 --> 02:15:58,800 really interact with you. So I think you just have to be smart. 2293 02:15:59,070 --> 02:15:59,340 For 2294 02:15:59,340 --> 02:16:00,060 the most part. 2295 02:16:00,090 --> 02:16:03,450 I mean, it's all about surrounding yourself with people 2296 02:16:03,450 --> 02:16:05,250 that you feel comfortable with. There 2297 02:16:05,250 --> 02:16:09,720 are 472 subway stops in New York City so hopefuls plan will allow 2298 02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:12,930 for roughly two officers per stop. Of course, they'll be 2299 02:16:12,930 --> 02:16:16,050 focused more heavily on busier stops. There'll be patrolling 2300 02:16:16,050 --> 02:16:19,920 both train cars and the station platforms and checking people's 2301 02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:25,500 bags for weapons. All of this is on top of the 1000 NYPD officers 2302 02:16:25,530 --> 02:16:28,380 in New York City Mayor Eric Adams ordered into the subway 2303 02:16:28,380 --> 02:16:29,130 last month. 2304 02:16:29,940 --> 02:16:31,950 Adam Curry: So you'd think that this is about the safety of New 2305 02:16:31,950 --> 02:16:37,680 Yorkers, but it really isn't. I'm gonna jump halfway through 2306 02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:40,770 my clip just we can get to the end quicker, which is the 2307 02:16:40,770 --> 02:16:42,000 kicker. Because 2308 02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:44,130 Unknown: of the terrorism threat in Europe and no one seems to 2309 02:16:44,130 --> 02:16:46,080 want to get you can get used to a lot of things. 2310 02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:49,710 Former NYPD chief of detectives and ABC News analyst Bob boy 2311 02:16:49,710 --> 02:16:52,950 says the larger issue is recidivism and mental health. 2312 02:16:52,980 --> 02:16:53,100 They 2313 02:16:53,100 --> 02:16:55,950 need to be held taken off and taken to his psychiatrist so 2314 02:16:55,950 --> 02:16:58,500 they can get help. And there needs to be a plan after that, 2315 02:16:58,710 --> 02:17:00,240 to keep them into treatment. 2316 02:17:00,270 --> 02:17:03,030 The governor's plan calls for more resources for mental health 2317 02:17:03,030 --> 02:17:06,360 outreach teams targeting the mentally ill. It also focuses on 2318 02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:09,120 repeat offenders, couple of local ones judges to be able to 2319 02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:12,360 ban someone from the transit system for at least three years. 2320 02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:15,120 If they've been convicted of a violent crime. We know who they 2321 02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:15,450 are. 2322 02:17:16,590 --> 02:17:19,380 They'll flag the criminal history at the time of arrest. 2323 02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:23,910 So it can be fully considered. When decisions regarding 2324 02:17:23,940 --> 02:17:26,700 charging and bail are made. Why are 2325 02:17:26,699 --> 02:17:29,759 Adam Curry: we arresting people 100 times and once we make the 2326 02:17:29,759 --> 02:17:33,389 arrest, why are they back out within a day or two sometimes so 2327 02:17:33,389 --> 02:17:37,889 this is partially partially about these wacky sorrows SR DA 2328 02:17:37,889 --> 02:17:40,349 is that people are revolting against but we've got to clean 2329 02:17:40,349 --> 02:17:42,749 it up for one very important reason. Experts 2330 02:17:42,749 --> 02:17:44,819 Unknown: say the deployment of National Guard is not 2331 02:17:44,819 --> 02:17:49,079 sustainable long term likely only a few months just in time 2332 02:17:49,079 --> 02:17:52,469 to make riders feel safe. But congestion pricing goes into 2333 02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:52,949 effect 2334 02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:55,919 Adam Curry: that raise the prices. 2335 02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:59,640 John C Dvorak: Brother there's actually three things at play 2336 02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:02,130 here one were the sorrows sisters. The second one is the 2337 02:18:02,130 --> 02:18:06,360 mental health. Yes, yes. issue which we are solving California 2338 02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:09,300 with Proposition one, we lead the way with this craziness. So 2339 02:18:09,450 --> 02:18:12,000 everybody's going to be reinstituting you thought you 2340 02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:15,720 think you had mental health issues before and mental 2341 02:18:16,110 --> 02:18:19,680 institutions before the country is going to be loaded with no 2342 02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:23,010 more prisons? We're going to have these things Yeah, they're 2343 02:18:23,010 --> 02:18:25,140 gonna be everywhere. They're gonna be falling building 2344 02:18:25,140 --> 02:18:27,300 building mental health facilities, people won't be able 2345 02:18:27,300 --> 02:18:30,420 to get out of him once they get in. And but yes, the phony 2346 02:18:30,420 --> 02:18:34,830 baloney pricing thing which everyone loves to implement if 2347 02:18:34,830 --> 02:18:36,630 they can bring 2348 02:18:36,630 --> 02:18:41,190 Adam Curry: back the term funny farm. It's coming back. It's 2349 02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:46,440 coming back. All right, to two quick clips, which I think are 2350 02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:48,690 important because I believe these will be in the State of 2351 02:18:48,690 --> 02:18:54,030 the Union this evening. Of course, genocide, Joe needs to 2352 02:18:54,060 --> 02:18:58,650 have something to reach out to voters with so this will be one 2353 02:18:58,650 --> 02:18:59,550 the President by 2354 02:18:59,549 --> 02:19:01,739 John C Dvorak: the way, was there up? Was there a prop bet 2355 02:19:02,039 --> 02:19:04,679 for protesters showing up in the audience? 2356 02:19:04,710 --> 02:19:07,860 Adam Curry: I did not see one. That's a good question. There's 2357 02:19:07,860 --> 02:19:09,870 no There's no prophet that I know of. 2358 02:19:10,290 --> 02:19:12,600 John C Dvorak: I'm gonna bet on that one. Yeah, here we 2359 02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:14,550 Unknown: go. The President assembling what the White House 2360 02:19:14,550 --> 02:19:18,150 calls a competition Council today, acknowledging inflation 2361 02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:20,820 weary Americans feel nickeled and dimed. 2362 02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:23,219 Adam Curry: Ah, we've got to solve inflation. How will 2363 02:19:23,220 --> 02:19:25,380 Unknown: you do a Joe the American people are tired of 2364 02:19:25,380 --> 02:19:26,640 being played for suckers. 2365 02:19:26,969 --> 02:19:30,599 The administration today touting a new rule that will cap credit 2366 02:19:30,599 --> 02:19:36,029 card late fees to just $8 down from 32. The Consumer Financial 2367 02:19:36,029 --> 02:19:39,869 Protection Bureau closing a loophole in the 2009 CARD Act. 2368 02:19:39,929 --> 02:19:43,559 The CFPB says it means an average savings of $220 per 2369 02:19:43,559 --> 02:19:47,429 household for the 45 million Americans late on their credit 2370 02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:48,959 card bills. That's 2371 02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:54,300 a really big deal. Because we are talking about people who are 2372 02:19:54,300 --> 02:19:57,990 on a tight budget who are living paycheck to paycheck. 2373 02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:01,530 Americans now hold Record credit card debt. And all those 2374 02:20:01,530 --> 02:20:05,280 balances carry a record high interest rate averaging above 2375 02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:10,590 21%. Late fees bring in $14 billion a year for credit card 2376 02:20:10,590 --> 02:20:13,920 companies. The Chamber of Commerce vowed to sue the 2377 02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:17,700 administration over the rule change, saying the CFPB quote 2378 02:20:17,730 --> 02:20:21,660 punishes Americans who pay their credit card bills on time by 2379 02:20:21,660 --> 02:20:25,110 forcing them to pay for those who don't. This will result in 2380 02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:28,350 fewer card offerings and limit access to affordable credit for 2381 02:20:28,350 --> 02:20:29,490 many consumers. 2382 02:20:29,700 --> 02:20:32,490 John C Dvorak: Oh, my second, that's a lie is 2383 02:20:32,820 --> 02:20:35,040 Adam Curry: are they saying that we're going to be paying for the 2384 02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:36,750 late fees people who pay 2385 02:20:36,750 --> 02:20:40,530 John C Dvorak: the debts not true? Let's see what there's 2386 02:20:40,620 --> 02:20:44,400 what they're implying that whoever that group was, which is 2387 02:20:44,400 --> 02:20:48,240 a phony group, if there ever was, they're implying that well 2388 02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:52,260 used to pay $1 or 25 bucks, let's say you're late fees, 1920 2389 02:20:52,260 --> 02:20:55,650 bucks, and now it's going to be eight bucks, and the taxpayer is 2390 02:20:55,650 --> 02:20:57,090 picking up the rest of it. That's 2391 02:20:58,290 --> 02:21:00,720 Adam Curry: well, here's 30 seconds left on this clip. The 2392 02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:04,560 Unknown: unfortunate truth is that banks are just going to 2393 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:09,480 find other ways to recoup this lost revenue. In the long run, 2394 02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:12,720 it may not turn out to be as big of a when 2395 02:21:13,050 --> 02:21:16,800 the new rule set to take effect in 60 days, as the White House 2396 02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:20,250 is also taking on junk fees for sporting events and concerts, 2397 02:21:20,340 --> 02:21:25,260 high poultry and meat prices and internet billing practices, as 2398 02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:28,920 the administration tries to show it is meeting consumers at their 2399 02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:29,790 kitchen table. 2400 02:21:30,420 --> 02:21:35,160 Adam Curry: So how so? Well, they did because I don't know 2401 02:21:35,160 --> 02:21:40,680 who is in charge of comps at the White House. But you know, from 2402 02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:44,460 getting the the former actor, the actors who played presidents 2403 02:21:44,460 --> 02:21:47,790 in movies to sit down with the President and that embarrassment 2404 02:21:47,790 --> 02:21:52,560 that we started the show off with to this. To this. It 2405 02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:54,870 Unknown: looks like true inflation is in a lot of people 2406 02:21:54,870 --> 02:21:55,080 pretty 2407 02:21:55,080 --> 02:21:58,470 hard, including on Sesame Street and Cookie Monster wasn't shy 2408 02:21:58,470 --> 02:22:02,400 about sharing how he feels he's not too happy that his favorite 2409 02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:03,810 snack is shrinking. He 2410 02:22:03,810 --> 02:22:07,980 posted on x and quote me hate shrink. Felician meat cookies 2411 02:22:08,010 --> 02:22:08,970 are getting smaller, 2412 02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:12,720 and his complaint even got the attention of the White House. In 2413 02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:16,380 a post on x. Yesterday, the White House said quote C is for 2414 02:22:16,380 --> 02:22:19,530 consumers getting ripped off. President Biden is calling on 2415 02:22:19,530 --> 02:22:22,980 companies to put a stop to shrink inflation and Democratic 2416 02:22:22,980 --> 02:22:26,670 senators Elizabeth Warren, Chris Van Hollen and Sherrod Brown 2417 02:22:26,670 --> 02:22:30,240 also responded to the post. Brown said he's fed up too and 2418 02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:33,630 so are the people of Ohio saying they should get all the cookies 2419 02:22:33,630 --> 02:22:36,930 they pay for. Ben Holland assured cookie monster he hates 2420 02:22:36,930 --> 02:22:40,260 it too, and that they're working to stop the greedy corporations 2421 02:22:40,260 --> 02:22:43,380 and quote, no one should be getting richer off smaller 2422 02:22:43,380 --> 02:22:47,220 cookies and Cookie Monster his claim might be legitimate. 2423 02:22:47,250 --> 02:22:50,220 Adam Curry: Do you hear yourself woman? Do you hear what you're 2424 02:22:50,220 --> 02:22:55,650 reporting on your reporting on Cookie Monster? This is insane. 2425 02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:58,260 Unknown: Take a look at these numbers. According to a recent 2426 02:22:58,290 --> 02:23:03,810 report from Senator Bob Casey's office between 2019 and 2023, a 2427 02:23:03,810 --> 02:23:07,290 family sized pack of Double Stuffed Oreos, one from one 2428 02:23:07,290 --> 02:23:11,700 pound and four ounces to one pound and 2.7 ounces. That's a 2429 02:23:11,700 --> 02:23:16,050 6% decrease in size by weight. The report says Doritos and 2430 02:23:16,050 --> 02:23:20,580 Wheat Thins also got smaller during that same time. So I 2431 02:23:20,580 --> 02:23:24,450 don't know what to make of this recent like resurgence of Sesame 2432 02:23:24,450 --> 02:23:28,650 Street culture. First it was Elmo asking everyone on Twitter, 2433 02:23:28,650 --> 02:23:31,380 like how are you guys doing? And everyone talked about their own 2434 02:23:31,380 --> 02:23:34,530 personal traumas. And now Cookie Monster is getting involved to 2435 02:23:34,530 --> 02:23:37,650 the point where the White House had to respond to both times and 2436 02:23:37,650 --> 02:23:38,310 step in. 2437 02:23:39,150 --> 02:23:41,280 Adam Curry: Don't they realize that this is what the White 2438 02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:45,270 House is doing? This is their strategy. Yes, we'll get Cookie 2439 02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:48,690 Monster to complain about his cookies. That will that'll get 2440 02:23:48,690 --> 02:23:52,380 everyone's attention. Oh, my goodness. 2441 02:23:53,580 --> 02:23:56,070 John C Dvorak: What Where'd she get that clip? Who got that clip 2442 02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:59,970 for you? Um, who is that woman? 2443 02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:05,490 Adam Curry: I think that was a local NBC report. Wow. Yeah. You 2444 02:24:05,490 --> 02:24:08,190 know what? We need a revolution. 2445 02:24:09,570 --> 02:24:11,430 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and uprising, the media, 2446 02:24:11,460 --> 02:24:13,800 Adam Curry: the only country that has ever really 2447 02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:20,040 successfully done this is Haiti. They broke the shackles with 2448 02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:24,450 France. And I gotta tell you, I'm kind of diggin what's going 2449 02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:30,120 on now this new guy. Jimmy barbecue. If any of you heard 2450 02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:35,880 this guy, yeah, he used to be a cop And now and now he's leading 2451 02:24:35,880 --> 02:24:40,290 the revolution and he and he throws his gets his government 2452 02:24:40,290 --> 02:24:44,280 people and throws him on the barbecue. It's dynamite. You 2453 02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:45,240 listen to this. He's 2454 02:24:45,240 --> 02:24:48,030 Unknown: been trying to bring down the government for years 2455 02:24:48,270 --> 02:24:52,200 and could be getting close to achieving his goal. At 46 years 2456 02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:55,710 old gang leader Jimmy shinies. He has become one of Hawaii's 2457 02:24:55,710 --> 02:24:59,700 most feared and powerful figures. But the man who rarely 2458 02:24:59,700 --> 02:25:03,480 appear without his automatic rifle wasn't always on the wrong 2459 02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:07,740 side of the law for 15 years she was he worked as an officer of 2460 02:25:07,740 --> 02:25:09,990 the Haitian national police force, 2461 02:25:10,020 --> 02:25:13,740 but in 2018, he was fired over his alleged involvement in the 2462 02:25:13,740 --> 02:25:18,030 massacre of civilians. And by 2020, he had taken the reins of 2463 02:25:18,030 --> 02:25:21,930 a powerful criminal Alliance dubbed the Jeannine family, with 2464 02:25:21,930 --> 02:25:26,130 over 1000 men under his command, nickname to barbecue for his 2465 02:25:26,130 --> 02:25:30,060 alleged tendency to burn his opponents alive which he denies. 2466 02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:33,570 shed his year has repeatedly claimed he was not a gangster, 2467 02:25:33,900 --> 02:25:36,960 but a revolutionary fighting against the elite. 2468 02:25:38,790 --> 02:25:41,790 We are fighting against a system that allows rich people to make 2469 02:25:41,790 --> 02:25:45,240 millions of dollars while the rest of us sleep with the pigs. 2470 02:25:46,770 --> 02:25:50,340 And for Jimmy barbecue shit, he's you know, one embodies the 2471 02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:54,510 corrupt elites more than Haitian Prime Minister Ariel Henry. In 2472 02:25:54,510 --> 02:25:58,710 2022, the Jeannine Alliance blocked a major fuel terminal in 2473 02:25:58,710 --> 02:26:02,340 the Capitol, piling pressure on the government and in recent 2474 02:26:02,340 --> 02:26:05,550 days, Chedis use men led coordinated attacks against the 2475 02:26:05,550 --> 02:26:10,200 airport, police academy and several prisons, freeing 1000s 2476 02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:13,560 of inmates. That cop turned to gang leader is now threatening 2477 02:26:13,560 --> 02:26:17,250 to plunge the country into civil war. If the Prime Minister 2478 02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:19,590 doesn't step now. Yeah, 2479 02:26:19,620 --> 02:26:22,530 John C Dvorak: countries aren't in civil war. All right. Check. 2480 02:26:22,530 --> 02:26:25,800 The US State Department said all Americans and you hit out Get 2481 02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:27,870 out. Get out now. 2482 02:26:28,020 --> 02:26:29,970 Adam Curry: Sir Omar in the troll room said Does he have 2483 02:26:29,970 --> 02:26:36,090 merch? That's a good question merch. One merch we want Jimmy 2484 02:26:36,090 --> 02:26:42,060 barbecue shares Yeah, a merch? My goodness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2485 02:26:42,450 --> 02:26:47,610 Yeah. Okay. There you go. By the way, not everything's not 2486 02:26:47,610 --> 02:26:50,760 everything's a scam. I noticed more and more people thinking 2487 02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:53,160 that everything's a scam. Everything's a lie. And 2488 02:26:53,310 --> 02:26:55,080 John C Dvorak: everything's a scam. That's impossible. 2489 02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:57,420 Adam Curry: I know. But people are just you know, now they're 2490 02:26:57,450 --> 02:27:00,300 going all in so you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful. 2491 02:27:00,390 --> 02:27:02,730 Not everything. Not everything's a lie, people. 2492 02:27:03,510 --> 02:27:05,670 John C Dvorak: Just to start the media tells you Yeah. 2493 02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:06,900 Unknown: That 2494 02:27:06,900 --> 02:27:09,120 Adam Curry: stuff's always alive. Yes, they're just trying 2495 02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:12,030 to sell you something. Exactly. You got anything else? 2496 02:27:12,870 --> 02:27:18,510 John C Dvorak: Well, I do have a I have a play this this is a 2497 02:27:18,810 --> 02:27:22,500 kind of an ominous clip is the Tower of London clip Tower of 2498 02:27:22,500 --> 02:27:23,640 London. And 2499 02:27:23,640 --> 02:27:27,300 Unknown: the Tower of London has a new Raven master to care for a 2500 02:27:27,300 --> 02:27:30,240 feathered flock that protects the 1000 year old fortress, 2501 02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:33,600 Barney Chandler will look after seven ravens that roam the 2502 02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:38,070 grounds freely by day and are kept in cages overnight. He says 2503 02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:41,670 legend has it that if the birds ever leave, England will 2504 02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:42,360 collapse. 2505 02:27:43,980 --> 02:27:46,110 John C Dvorak: So we should note, if you've met those birds 2506 02:27:46,110 --> 02:27:50,310 I have no I have not. Oh, they're dynamite. What do they 2507 02:27:50,310 --> 02:27:53,700 do big giant ravens is about I don't know, how does a small 2508 02:27:53,700 --> 02:27:56,490 flock and they're always hanging around there. And you can go and 2509 02:27:56,490 --> 02:28:02,310 chat with them and they talk back. Wow, you have that strange 2510 02:28:02,310 --> 02:28:07,620 voice of a raven as opposed to a crow. It's kind of guttural. And 2511 02:28:07,650 --> 02:28:10,530 yeah. And then if you make friends with them, you feed them 2512 02:28:10,530 --> 02:28:13,410 a little bit. Do something like that. And they tell every other 2513 02:28:13,410 --> 02:28:16,500 Raven in the entire world they pass the word around that you're 2514 02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:19,200 Adam Curry: you're a good dude. Ah, interesting. 2515 02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:21,210 John C Dvorak: I do that with crows, too. You have to be 2516 02:28:21,210 --> 02:28:23,220 careful. You have to be close to Christ. Yeah, because 2517 02:28:23,220 --> 02:28:28,770 Adam Curry: crows can mess you up. Yeah. Don't even say the 2518 02:28:28,770 --> 02:28:31,380 word don't even say it because they'll pass it on to everybody. 2519 02:28:31,800 --> 02:28:35,520 I was accused by someone on Reddit that someone sent me a 2520 02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:40,620 link that we've never claimed that we came up with the term 2521 02:28:40,620 --> 02:28:43,830 value for value I don't think it would just be the system value 2522 02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:46,050 for value. Supposedly, 2523 02:28:46,620 --> 02:28:48,810 John C Dvorak: you're the one who introduced it to the show in 2524 02:28:48,810 --> 02:28:53,040 terms of the term we've been doing it Yeah, you came out you 2525 02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:55,500 had the term I don't know where you got it from but you brought 2526 02:28:55,500 --> 02:28:57,570 it in and we use it now constantly 2527 02:28:57,600 --> 02:29:00,180 Adam Curry: well, people are saying that this was this comes 2528 02:29:00,180 --> 02:29:03,240 from Atlas Shrugged by Ayan Rand I certainly really that would 2529 02:29:03,240 --> 02:29:05,940 make sense from you. I certainly read the book but I don't 2530 02:29:05,940 --> 02:29:08,670 remember that it being value for value we'll 2531 02:29:08,670 --> 02:29:11,370 John C Dvorak: set up it's got to be a PDF we can do a quick 2532 02:29:11,370 --> 02:29:12,150 search can 2533 02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:14,160 Adam Curry: someone check that out? Because I'd like to give 2534 02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:18,810 credit where credit is due be great to hey I and Rand said 2535 02:29:18,810 --> 02:29:22,140 this I didn't come up with it it's beautiful I'm I'm skeptical 2536 02:29:22,140 --> 02:29:27,390 I'm skeptical too. I don't think so. I don't think so. Anyway 2537 02:29:27,390 --> 02:29:29,340 with that I would like to thank you for your currency in the 2538 02:29:29,340 --> 02:29:32,760 morning to you the man who put the sea in clone of Kerry ladies 2539 02:29:32,760 --> 02:29:34,740 and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end the One 2540 02:29:34,740 --> 02:29:36,360 Only Mr. Johnson 2541 02:29:41,700 --> 02:29:43,560 John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry in the morning on the ship she was 2542 02:29:43,560 --> 02:29:46,020 telegraphy near subs in the water and all the day midnight. 2543 02:29:46,650 --> 02:29:48,510 Adam Curry: In the morning to the trolls and the troll room. 2544 02:29:48,510 --> 02:29:51,180 You do not want to go anywhere trolls because I gotta count Oh 2545 02:29:52,530 --> 02:30:00,510 133 It's getting better we had last Thursday 1500 65 listening 2546 02:30:00,510 --> 02:30:07,080 to us live today 1586 We are moving up trolls hanging out. I 2547 02:30:07,080 --> 02:30:07,440 love it. 2548 02:30:07,620 --> 02:30:10,170 John C Dvorak: This is good news and back to normal. Yeah. 2549 02:30:10,530 --> 02:30:13,170 Adam Curry: And it's it's the season as well, you know, it's 2550 02:30:13,170 --> 02:30:17,190 the season. And of course people want to hear our take on stuff. 2551 02:30:17,610 --> 02:30:21,240 You know, I think you'll just want to be calmed. Like, at 2552 02:30:21,240 --> 02:30:24,300 least I can laugh about the stuff that's going on. That's 2553 02:30:24,300 --> 02:30:26,130 all that we really want you to do. I 2554 02:30:26,130 --> 02:30:27,630 John C Dvorak: will get some big laughs tonight. 2555 02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:33,030 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's gonna be great. That should be 2556 02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:34,260 interesting to see. You're 2557 02:30:34,260 --> 02:30:35,940 John C Dvorak: gonna have to jack over there. He's gonna go 2558 02:30:35,940 --> 02:30:41,340 an hour, they said, and they're betting on maybe longer. Yes, 2559 02:30:41,340 --> 02:30:44,070 six, you're gonna have to give them the full dose. So they were 2560 02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:48,450 gonna see the full dosed Biden, which means he'll probably 2561 02:30:48,450 --> 02:30:50,220 scream and at some point, 2562 02:30:50,250 --> 02:30:52,650 Adam Curry: it's not. It's not the full dose. 2563 02:30:52,650 --> 02:30:54,210 Unknown: It's I'm gonna give you the whole 2564 02:30:54,210 --> 02:30:56,670 John C Dvorak: load did a whole load. They're gonna give him the 2565 02:30:56,670 --> 02:30:57,390 whole load the 2566 02:30:57,390 --> 02:31:00,390 Adam Curry: whole load the whole load. There was was there was an 2567 02:31:00,390 --> 02:31:04,950 article. It was interesting. It was you remember that? You know 2568 02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:07,980 that mask maker lady from the CIA? 2569 02:31:09,690 --> 02:31:12,990 John C Dvorak: The lady was asked the disguises guys, woman? 2570 02:31:12,990 --> 02:31:14,730 Yeah. Yeah, she's great. 2571 02:31:14,790 --> 02:31:18,210 Adam Curry: Yeah, she she did a see if I can find it. She did a 2572 02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:26,340 I can't find it. She did a whole article in I think the New York 2573 02:31:26,340 --> 02:31:30,810 Post or something. And how she fooled the president. How she 2574 02:31:30,810 --> 02:31:31,350 flew, right? 2575 02:31:31,350 --> 02:31:34,320 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she i Yeah, I heard I heard about this. She 2576 02:31:34,350 --> 02:31:40,080 put herself in some sort of a of one of those latex masks. Yes. 2577 02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:45,810 Yes. They, I guess taken it to some level of of unbelievable 2578 02:31:45,810 --> 02:31:49,770 to, to an extreme that this hold. I couldn't even. Yeah, but 2579 02:31:49,770 --> 02:31:50,400 doesn't want to 2580 02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:52,950 Adam Curry: know about but this was Bush Senior. 2581 02:31:53,550 --> 02:31:56,100 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she goes in there as I guess somebody moves 2582 02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:58,920 as bush. Oh, she went in there with Bush Senior as the 2583 02:31:58,950 --> 02:32:00,150 president. No, 2584 02:32:00,180 --> 02:32:02,340 Adam Curry: no, no, no. She went in as just a different woman. 2585 02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:05,490 She got through White House. All right. She got through all this 2586 02:32:05,490 --> 02:32:08,460 stuff. And then she and there's pictures of herself. sitting 2587 02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:11,220 there with with Bush senior in the Oval Office who 2588 02:32:11,220 --> 02:32:14,490 John C Dvorak: is a previous co head of the CIA. So who should 2589 02:32:14,490 --> 02:32:18,900 know better? Yes. But you can't you can't know better with these 2590 02:32:18,930 --> 02:32:21,600 disguises. And this is years ago. And this 2591 02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:24,270 Adam Curry: has got to be some kind of signaling to let us know 2592 02:32:24,270 --> 02:32:27,870 that. You know that they're using this. They've got to be 2593 02:32:27,870 --> 02:32:28,680 using this. 2594 02:32:29,490 --> 02:32:31,830 John C Dvorak: I mean, yeah, with Biden. Yeah. Joey is just I 2595 02:32:31,830 --> 02:32:35,070 posted a clip recently that somebody caught with Biden 2596 02:32:35,070 --> 02:32:38,010 scratching the back of his neck and then they didn't delete text 2597 02:32:38,010 --> 02:32:41,040 kind of pulled up. I don't know if it's a fake or weapon. It 2598 02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:44,130 looked pretty good. And this woman who was taking the video 2599 02:32:44,130 --> 02:32:49,230 freaked out now. That's a mask is wearing a mask? It's not Joe. 2600 02:32:49,980 --> 02:32:50,400 Yeah. 2601 02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:55,950 Adam Curry: It's unbelievable. The extent to which I mean, 2602 02:32:55,980 --> 02:33:02,190 again, around the hill country. I'm hearing. JFK. JFK Jr. is 2603 02:33:02,190 --> 02:33:08,010 alive. Really? Really? Yeah. And people are very serious about 2604 02:33:08,010 --> 02:33:08,430 this. 2605 02:33:10,020 --> 02:33:13,080 John C Dvorak: You know, your your direct jobs in your area 2606 02:33:13,080 --> 02:33:16,590 are, I think worse than the grind the great. No, of course, 2607 02:33:16,740 --> 02:33:18,540 Adam Curry: they're definitely entertaining. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 2608 02:33:18,570 --> 02:33:20,550 No, and they'd like to drink. So it's fun. 2609 02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:22,890 John C Dvorak: And then you have to go to San Antonio to vote as 2610 02:33:22,890 --> 02:33:24,480 a Democrat. Are you kidding me? 2611 02:33:24,690 --> 02:33:29,820 Adam Curry: This is part of the joke. I just say do not adopt to 2612 02:33:29,820 --> 02:33:32,940 the fears and anxieties of the people around you and some of 2613 02:33:32,940 --> 02:33:39,630 these crazy ideas. A correction. One of our producers hoaxed us 2614 02:33:39,690 --> 02:33:43,800 in a very good way, I would say. Instead, the next time the show 2615 02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:49,860 will be on a on a on a Leap Day will be in 2023. Well, of course 2616 02:33:49,860 --> 02:33:54,480 that's not possible. 2023 is not a leap year. 2617 02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:00,150 John C Dvorak: 2023 is last 2618 02:34:00,510 --> 02:34:02,910 Adam Curry: 2033 I'm sorry, 2033. 2619 02:34:05,070 --> 02:34:07,440 John C Dvorak: A lot of oh, I had nothing to do with that 2620 02:34:07,440 --> 02:34:08,160 being hoaxed. 2621 02:34:08,310 --> 02:34:11,130 Adam Curry: No, I read it on the show and like this sent me this 2622 02:34:11,130 --> 02:34:16,440 link in the end that was out man. I got hoaxed. And then I 2623 02:34:16,440 --> 02:34:20,610 did want to read two quick notes. Jen and Andy says in our 2624 02:34:20,610 --> 02:34:24,570 household we pronounced Lacroix like the crotch pinkies up John. 2625 02:34:25,170 --> 02:34:29,820 And, and lightning maximalists says he would gladly buy the 2626 02:34:29,820 --> 02:34:32,940 children's book for $33.33. 2627 02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:36,390 John C Dvorak: What Yeah, we're getting into a discussion about 2628 02:34:36,390 --> 02:34:37,560 this issue over 2629 02:34:37,560 --> 02:34:39,780 Adam Curry: at the publishing company. Yeah. 2630 02:34:41,070 --> 02:34:42,750 John C Dvorak: Jay sent you a copy of it. I don't know if 2631 02:34:42,750 --> 02:34:45,090 you've seen it yet came in this morning. I haven't seen it yet. 2632 02:34:45,090 --> 02:34:47,910 As a PDF I haven't seen we need to add a couple pages so it can 2633 02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:49,440 be 33 pages long. 2634 02:34:50,190 --> 02:34:52,440 Adam Curry: Now you're talking teach those children right. 2635 02:34:55,530 --> 02:34:59,730 John C Dvorak: 33 this funny idea, made that may come to pass 2636 02:34:59,730 --> 02:35:01,170 as the that price. Yeah, 2637 02:35:01,320 --> 02:35:03,720 Adam Curry: I mean it's it was it's good for your children. 2638 02:35:04,740 --> 02:35:05,760 John C Dvorak: It's a great book. 2639 02:35:05,820 --> 02:35:08,160 Adam Curry: It teaches the children values 2640 02:35:08,850 --> 02:35:11,970 John C Dvorak: ABCs yeah teaches them a fun 2641 02:35:11,970 --> 02:35:15,900 Adam Curry: way to learn the ABCs I'm sure G is forget mo a 2642 02:35:15,900 --> 02:35:16,680 no doubt. 2643 02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:17,910 John C Dvorak: myelination? 2644 02:35:18,060 --> 02:35:20,850 Adam Curry: I haven't looked at the at the it's been a long 2645 02:35:20,850 --> 02:35:23,940 time. What she'd how years ish? I was gonna say she was probably 2646 02:35:23,940 --> 02:35:26,400 like 15 when she when she did that book? 2647 02:35:26,820 --> 02:35:28,410 John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah. Something like that was 2648 02:35:28,410 --> 02:35:29,190 fantastic. 2649 02:35:30,090 --> 02:35:33,120 Adam Curry: And you're going to be supporting J I presume if we 2650 02:35:33,120 --> 02:35:36,660 put this book on sale? Or she just getting a are you 2651 02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:39,660 John C Dvorak: know, she's writing that operation. She's 2652 02:35:39,660 --> 02:35:45,930 really good. But she No, it'd be the same did world his they 2653 02:35:45,930 --> 02:35:50,160 15% 20% royalties are coming into the show as the book goes 2654 02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:53,190 out. Oh, so we got to start with the same as any other book 2655 02:35:53,250 --> 02:35:54,030 publishing company, 2656 02:35:54,210 --> 02:35:58,920 Adam Curry: basically. Oh, good. We get 15% of that egg book 2657 02:35:58,920 --> 02:35:59,220 them. 2658 02:36:01,800 --> 02:36:04,170 John C Dvorak: Do you mean that? No. Was it too many? 2659 02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:07,680 Adam Curry: no eggs, no eggs, 2660 02:36:07,950 --> 02:36:10,890 John C Dvorak: learn these I get that book is run that book is 2661 02:36:10,890 --> 02:36:14,130 running the publishing company, period. Even me, me doesn't get 2662 02:36:14,130 --> 02:36:14,790 a royalty. 2663 02:36:18,150 --> 02:36:23,220 Adam Curry: Ma'am, we we run as discussed, we run this show 2664 02:36:23,220 --> 02:36:28,410 value for value. Thank you iron Rand. And that means that for 2665 02:36:28,410 --> 02:36:31,770 the past two and a half hours, you didn't hear any commercial 2666 02:36:31,770 --> 02:36:36,060 interruptions, there was no creepies native ads going on 2667 02:36:36,060 --> 02:36:38,640 here. None of that? Well, the ones we played that on the 2668 02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:42,000 mainstream media, of course. And hopefully we calmed you down a 2669 02:36:42,000 --> 02:36:45,990 bit so that you don't feel so weird about an uneasy about all 2670 02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:49,200 the things and tonight, you can look at the State of the Union 2671 02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:53,640 as as a comedy show, you'll be ready, you're prepared. You'll 2672 02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:56,370 be you'll be able to laugh. And then you'll be looking for the 2673 02:36:56,370 --> 02:37:01,890 latex mask. That is fun for the whole family. And all we ask for 2674 02:37:01,890 --> 02:37:04,440 in return is that you send some value back to us. And you can do 2675 02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:07,770 that in many ways. We love what our artists do, we always thank 2676 02:37:07,770 --> 02:37:12,510 them, or artists create artwork while we're doing the show. And 2677 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,600 then then right when we're done and we turn the show around 2678 02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:19,110 pretty quickly. We like to choose a piece of art, which is 2679 02:37:19,110 --> 02:37:22,710 a title and then we publish it and we always want to give 2680 02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:26,250 credit to the artist who did the artwork on the previous show, 2681 02:37:26,580 --> 02:37:30,090 which was 1639 the episode number it we titled it the 2682 02:37:30,090 --> 02:37:33,600 pumpkin coin it was networks whose back we haven't seen 2683 02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:39,420 networks with a win for a while and he took a very nice, I guess 2684 02:37:39,480 --> 02:37:46,110 Norton Antivirus theme at any any color was kind of the same 2685 02:37:46,110 --> 02:37:49,530 as no agenda Antivirus for your mind. And I think that was good. 2686 02:37:49,560 --> 02:37:52,860 And we liked it. Was there anything else that 2687 02:37:53,880 --> 02:37:58,470 John C Dvorak: that caught our gotta kick the Happy Women's 2688 02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:06,330 History Month with the Rachel Levine and the Looney Tunes 2689 02:38:07,140 --> 02:38:13,470 logo. There wasn't really a lot that we had to choose it. We 2690 02:38:13,470 --> 02:38:18,540 liked the pumpkin pie but named it that instead. Yeah, yeah, 2691 02:38:18,570 --> 02:38:23,220 that was nothing Hey, I liked AGI took human jobs but from 2692 02:38:23,220 --> 02:38:25,800 comic strip blogger, but you didn't like that at 2693 02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:27,150 Adam Curry: all. See which one was that? 2694 02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:31,860 John C Dvorak: The robot is a nice nice AI robot. 2695 02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:34,170 Adam Curry: I'm looking for it now. I 2696 02:38:34,170 --> 02:38:38,340 John C Dvorak: don't seem to be AGI that's the big joke is Oh, 2697 02:38:38,340 --> 02:38:43,920 Adam Curry: there you go. Yeah, yes. Like, man, man, man, you 2698 02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:48,750 know RFK with laser eyes. No. But I did like Oprah with the 2699 02:38:48,750 --> 02:38:53,610 burgers but it's kind of rude. Wasn't it? And I think the thing 2700 02:38:53,610 --> 02:38:57,630 of the Rachel Levine if it were the production wasn't great. I 2701 02:38:57,630 --> 02:39:00,990 thought the Happy Women's History Month by the way, what 2702 02:39:00,990 --> 02:39:03,450 did people do? And for Women's History Month? I haven't heard 2703 02:39:03,450 --> 02:39:07,980 any stories. No one cares. These months they don't care anymore. 2704 02:39:08,610 --> 02:39:11,550 Again, I didn't think the production was that great. And 2705 02:39:11,550 --> 02:39:11,910 then we 2706 02:39:12,180 --> 02:39:15,480 John C Dvorak: didn't match the would the logo Happy Women's no 2707 02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:19,560 history met did not match the Looney Tunes theme was it should 2708 02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:24,150 have been an old kind of a Looney Tunes logo. Yeah, around 2709 02:39:24,150 --> 02:39:24,600 there some. 2710 02:39:25,320 --> 02:39:27,300 Adam Curry: Well, thank you very much networks for bringing us 2711 02:39:27,300 --> 02:39:30,180 the artwork for episode 1639. Thank you to all of the artists 2712 02:39:30,180 --> 02:39:34,980 everybody who supplies us with clips boots on the ground, Intel 2713 02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:39,810 important Intel, people who run servers and you are all 2714 02:39:39,810 --> 02:39:42,390 producers. We have no listeners. We have no audience. We just 2715 02:39:42,390 --> 02:39:46,680 have producers and we'd love to thank our producers of just like 2716 02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:49,380 Hollywood we thank our executive and Associate Executive 2717 02:39:49,380 --> 02:39:56,910 Producers up front. Oh man, did you hear that? That girl got 2718 02:39:56,910 --> 02:39:59,940 convicted of on the rust set. 2719 02:40:02,460 --> 02:40:04,620 John C Dvorak: The harbor Yeah, 2720 02:40:04,650 --> 02:40:09,000 Adam Curry: yeah, the army or murmur. So Alex Baldwin is next. 2721 02:40:09,450 --> 02:40:15,180 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he may get convicted. And well, he deserves 2722 02:40:15,180 --> 02:40:17,910 him. He's the one who had the gun in his hand without, I guess 2723 02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:21,630 without checking it. And then he pulls the trigger, or it pulled 2724 02:40:21,630 --> 02:40:24,480 itself somehow that's magic. It was magic is magic. And he's 2725 02:40:24,480 --> 02:40:28,770 been in many hundreds of, you know, situations where he had to 2726 02:40:28,770 --> 02:40:33,270 use a gun. So he knew he knew the rules and Nikes never held a 2727 02:40:33,270 --> 02:40:34,320 gun in his life. 2728 02:40:34,350 --> 02:40:36,300 Adam Curry: There was I have a clip actually, one, there's 2729 02:40:36,300 --> 02:40:38,340 something interesting in this that is worth listening to you 2730 02:40:38,340 --> 02:40:39,720 want to hear? Yeah. 2731 02:40:40,680 --> 02:40:43,290 Unknown: Butera is guilty of involuntary manslaughter as 2732 02:40:43,290 --> 02:40:45,540 partial count one or 2733 02:40:45,540 --> 02:40:49,170 more charged with ensuring onset gun safety in the Hollywood 2734 02:40:49,170 --> 02:40:52,110 production of rust was immediately placed into the 2735 02:40:52,110 --> 02:40:55,800 custody of deputies. Jurors convinced by the prosecution's 2736 02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:59,430 case that the live rounds that ended up in actor and executive 2737 02:40:59,430 --> 02:41:02,940 producer Alec Baldwin's gun fatally shooting cinematographer 2738 02:41:02,940 --> 02:41:06,960 Halina Hutchins got their due to Hannah Gutierrez, Reid's failure 2739 02:41:06,960 --> 02:41:10,320 to observe safety protocols prosecuted Carrie Morrissey 2740 02:41:10,320 --> 02:41:13,080 presented evidence that Gutierrez Reid unknowingly 2741 02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:16,500 brought the live rounds on set, and that the 12 days before the 2742 02:41:16,500 --> 02:41:19,620 accident in which they slowly spread across the set should 2743 02:41:19,620 --> 02:41:22,920 have been ample time to perform the routine checks that would 2744 02:41:22,920 --> 02:41:26,610 have allowed her to realize this was live ammunition. The 26 year 2745 02:41:26,610 --> 02:41:29,220 old lawyer said that she would be appealing the verdict, 2746 02:41:29,400 --> 02:41:32,250 arguing that management negligence and giving her two 2747 02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:36,120 jobs approps assistant and an armorer are responsible for more 2748 02:41:36,120 --> 02:41:37,470 than 20 firearms. 2749 02:41:37,920 --> 02:41:41,280 Management was responsible for safety failures and not Hannah. 2750 02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:46,230 Hannah is escaped go for all the management failures. They do 2751 02:41:46,230 --> 02:41:49,740 hope she gets convicted. So they're all exonerated, they can 2752 02:41:49,740 --> 02:41:53,580 move forward. They can finish that movie like Mr. Sousa said 2753 02:41:53,580 --> 02:41:54,750 they did make their money. 2754 02:41:54,930 --> 02:41:57,900 No date has been set for sentencing. But it's a charge 2755 02:41:57,900 --> 02:42:02,220 that carries up to 18 months in prison under $5,000. Fine. The 2756 02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:06,270 jury found him not guilty of an evidence tampering charge. Alec 2757 02:42:06,270 --> 02:42:09,390 Baldwin who pulled the trigger will be tried for manslaughter 2758 02:42:09,390 --> 02:42:10,050 in July. 2759 02:42:11,490 --> 02:42:15,000 Adam Curry: It was interesting that blaming the production 2760 02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:15,510 company 2761 02:42:17,010 --> 02:42:19,080 John C Dvorak: you got to point a finger at somebody Yeah, your 2762 02:42:19,080 --> 02:42:23,760 fault that you took a gun loaded gun pointed at the Edison 2763 02:42:23,790 --> 02:42:27,300 photographer and pulled the trigger. What was the point? 2764 02:42:27,600 --> 02:42:28,020 Yeah. 2765 02:42:30,750 --> 02:42:34,560 Adam Curry: Anyway, we will never go to court with our 2766 02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:38,280 executive producers ever for Associate Executive producers 2767 02:42:38,700 --> 02:42:41,730 because you fund the operation and as long as you don't point a 2768 02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:45,510 gun at us we're good. Even then I'm still kind of okay with it. 2769 02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:51,480 So we kick it off by thanking our OH is interesting, sir B of 2770 02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:55,260 the chat. Annucci who comes in from Alpharetta, Georgia with 2771 02:42:55,260 --> 02:42:59,130 $400 Big yellow box here so there's a birthday involved and 2772 02:42:59,130 --> 02:43:04,440 he says John and Adam, thank you I am headed to Vegas to and plan 2773 02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:08,010 to win this donation value back at the tables so in essence is 2774 02:43:08,010 --> 02:43:14,340 free money all right. Policing this a boots on the ground of 2775 02:43:14,340 --> 02:43:18,810 the your TSA experience. Also Adam my wife and I are going to 2776 02:43:18,810 --> 02:43:21,720 Amsterdam for four days in April. I would love to get your 2777 02:43:21,720 --> 02:43:25,890 number one don't miss recommendation. Go to the 2778 02:43:25,890 --> 02:43:32,520 Bulldogs mocha join John stay grumpy my friend. For the people 2779 02:43:32,520 --> 02:43:36,570 think of you love and light sir be birthday mentioned sir be of 2780 02:43:36,570 --> 02:43:39,690 the Chattahoochee wishing is three human resources a happy 2781 02:43:39,690 --> 02:43:45,780 birthday Danny March 11, Eliza, march 15 And Nico March 16. And 2782 02:43:45,780 --> 02:43:50,400 a shout out to my smokin hot wife for her consistency. So 2783 02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:53,400 dumb love and light he says sir be alright. Thank you very much, 2784 02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:53,730 brother. 2785 02:43:55,440 --> 02:43:58,200 John C Dvorak: And now we have Kyle in Wisconsin. This was an 2786 02:43:58,200 --> 02:44:01,470 interesting note. Yeah, well, he's been sending these kinds of 2787 02:44:01,470 --> 02:44:07,050 cryptic notes for about six months. Usually as $1 in them, 2788 02:44:07,050 --> 02:44:14,490 but this time is 400 Wow. Cash. Wow. And as Kyle from Wisconsin 2789 02:44:14,490 --> 02:44:21,720 he says John Adam what? What it says what her happened. WP no 2790 02:44:21,720 --> 02:44:29,760 phone No money. No home. I'm the joke. Question mark. Will I be 2791 02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:38,850 left to toil in my depths? I am I prison bound? I am not evolve. 2792 02:44:38,880 --> 02:44:49,020 Eevee Oh, l sincerely Kyle. All right. No internet says wrong. 2793 02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:51,300 Adam Curry: That's an intro anyway. 2794 02:44:51,300 --> 02:44:53,490 John C Dvorak: They could thank you Kyle for the for the 2795 02:44:53,490 --> 02:44:56,880 donations. We appreciate very big deal and we appreciate it. 2796 02:44:56,940 --> 02:44:57,240 Yeah. 2797 02:44:57,270 --> 02:44:59,730 Adam Curry: And if you if you have a question you can if you 2798 02:44:59,730 --> 02:45:03,240 haven't Internet Adam mccurry.com. And McCurry that 2799 02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:07,770 That's right. Then we move on to Digi who comes in with 34567 2800 02:45:07,770 --> 02:45:11,760 from Indianapolis, Indiana from Digi he's a blind listener, and 2801 02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:18,900 a dude named Ben. And I would say just an FYI, Digi the pod 2802 02:45:18,900 --> 02:45:21,720 verse app. I didn't promote an app today. But the pod verse 2803 02:45:21,990 --> 02:45:29,190 didn't. I didn't. The pod verse app has a they did a lot of work 2804 02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:36,330 specifically for what's it called? You know, there's a term 2805 02:45:36,330 --> 02:45:41,160 for it for not assistance. It's something within a it's, you 2806 02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:46,410 know, for blind people, blind bit. I can't remember the term, 2807 02:45:46,410 --> 02:45:50,520 there's a term, there's like a politically correct term for it. 2808 02:45:51,090 --> 02:45:54,570 So there's a lot of things that, that you know, your screen 2809 02:45:54,570 --> 02:45:58,710 reader will work. You know, there's the, I can't 2810 02:45:58,740 --> 02:46:00,870 accessibility Thank you meet us. That's it. 2811 02:46:01,140 --> 02:46:02,340 John C Dvorak: Accessibility. 2812 02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:05,580 Adam Curry: There you go. So that'd be a great app for you to 2813 02:46:05,580 --> 02:46:09,810 use. Oh, and I needed to mention that one of the biggest hosts 2814 02:46:10,020 --> 02:46:15,180 podcasting hosts in the world. Spreaker they have now joined 2815 02:46:15,180 --> 02:46:18,210 the podcasting. 2.0 revolution. They're using pod ping which 2816 02:46:18,210 --> 02:46:22,170 means if you listen to a podcast that hosts on Spreaker just like 2817 02:46:22,170 --> 02:46:24,870 the no agenda show, it will update within 90 seconds of 2818 02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:27,060 publishing. No more do you have to wait for 2819 02:46:27,090 --> 02:46:29,010 John C Dvorak: five never heard in this operation? What's their 2820 02:46:29,010 --> 02:46:30,360 name? Spreaker Spreaker Oh, they're 2821 02:46:30,360 --> 02:46:31,350 Adam Curry: big. Oh, yeah, they 2822 02:46:31,350 --> 02:46:33,360 John C Dvorak: have a lot. Biggest pod bean. 2823 02:46:33,780 --> 02:46:37,230 Adam Curry: They I think they're bigger than pod bean. Yeah, they 2824 02:46:37,230 --> 02:46:41,460 have 350,000 feeds I believe it's pretty big. Holy. Wow. 2825 02:46:42,390 --> 02:46:46,170 Yeah. So and if you want to see that work go to pod Pink Dot 2826 02:46:46,170 --> 02:46:50,190 cloud Dot Watch pod Pink Dot Watch. It's crazy to see all 2827 02:46:50,190 --> 02:46:55,170 these things updating in real time. Thanks Digi bite Pink Dot 2828 02:46:55,170 --> 02:46:56,310 wad Pink Dot Watch. 2829 02:46:56,310 --> 02:46:59,040 John C Dvorak: Yes. Grab Scott's up with he's in Oceanside, 2830 02:46:59,040 --> 02:46:59,610 California. 2831 02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:02,460 Adam Curry: He does our dress our chapters. 2832 02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:04,350 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's probably changing something as 2833 02:47:04,350 --> 02:47:13,440 we speak. 33333333 3.34 And he says anonymous from Dred Scott. 2834 02:47:14,160 --> 02:47:17,220 Duke location at large no jingles no karma late birthday 2835 02:47:17,220 --> 02:47:19,080 shout out to myself March 4, 2836 02:47:19,530 --> 02:47:20,640 Adam Curry: and I'm gonna give him a biscuit. 2837 02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:23,430 Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday deserves 2838 02:47:23,430 --> 02:47:24,780 a Brother Keith 2839 02:47:24,780 --> 02:47:29,070 Adam Curry: Yates is in Haltom City, Texas. 263 dot 22. 2840 02:47:29,100 --> 02:47:31,260 Interesting number. Thank you very much. Please do dude. 2841 02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:34,980 Unknown: You've been de deuced 2842 02:47:39,000 --> 02:47:43,980 John C Dvorak: Jeffrey Gerlach in Evergreen Colorado. 24697 2843 02:47:43,980 --> 02:47:48,840 Switcheroo. This is for my son Sir William Gerlach with a 2844 02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:54,660 request for a name change to serve Wiley arts. And please 2845 02:47:54,660 --> 02:48:01,140 check out his art at Wiley arts wi l ey arts.com. And his 2846 02:48:01,140 --> 02:48:05,760 instinct is Wiley Arts at Wiley arts. It's astounding how proud 2847 02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:09,750 I am of my son. Okay, so love you mean it? I hope you win. 2848 02:48:09,780 --> 02:48:10,350 Yes, thank 2849 02:48:10,350 --> 02:48:13,920 Adam Curry: you. So this means we will be crediting this to Sir 2850 02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:14,880 Wiley arts. 2851 02:48:15,780 --> 02:48:19,470 John C Dvorak: I would assume so. Okay, good. Got it. Got it. 2852 02:48:19,470 --> 02:48:20,040 Got it. Got it. 2853 02:48:20,550 --> 02:48:22,920 Adam Curry: I'll take the blue one. And I'll skip over the next 2854 02:48:22,920 --> 02:48:30,660 one. This is James story from Lower Hutt New Zealand. 200 Dear 2855 02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:33,360 John and Adam please find attached my donation of $200 2856 02:48:33,360 --> 02:48:37,320 which finally makes me eligible for knighthood. The New Zealand 2857 02:48:37,320 --> 02:48:40,530 dollar exchange rate sucks right now, and it's less than you 2858 02:48:40,530 --> 02:48:43,470 deserve. But I'm truly grateful for your show. And of course we 2859 02:48:43,470 --> 02:48:47,130 honor your dollar reduce. May I humbly request brisket and 2860 02:48:47,130 --> 02:48:52,200 bourbon at the roundtable and an R to D to karma. Of course you 2861 02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:55,980 can regard see you both James story. We'll see you at the 2862 02:48:55,980 --> 02:48:57,540 roundtable momentarily. James. 2863 02:48:59,640 --> 02:49:03,570 Unknown: You've got karma 2864 02:49:05,250 --> 02:49:10,140 John C Dvorak: at 200 and I will look this up in New Zealand 2865 02:49:10,140 --> 02:49:13,380 dollars because he gateman in dollars. So if not translate 2866 02:49:13,380 --> 02:49:16,590 that to New Zealand dollar reduce that buck 50 pushes him 2867 02:49:16,590 --> 02:49:17,340 up a notch. 2868 02:49:19,740 --> 02:49:22,980 Adam Curry: I see what you're saying he might be. You mean he 2869 02:49:22,980 --> 02:49:24,600 might be? Exec? 2870 02:49:24,660 --> 02:49:25,710 John C Dvorak: Yeah. I 2871 02:49:25,710 --> 02:49:26,520 Adam Curry: don't know. I don't know 2872 02:49:26,550 --> 02:49:30,180 John C Dvorak: possible. There are systems online to tell us. 2873 02:49:31,020 --> 02:49:33,360 Then you look back in in Lakewood, Colorado. There she is 2874 02:49:33,360 --> 02:49:36,660 at 200 bucks. She says she needs jobs. Carmen wants to tell us 2875 02:49:36,660 --> 02:49:40,530 that for a competitive edge. Go to Image makers inc.com For all 2876 02:49:40,530 --> 02:49:43,980 your executive resume and job search needs. That's image 2877 02:49:43,980 --> 02:49:48,360 makers Inc with a k.com or just find Linda IUPAC and Duchess of 2878 02:49:48,420 --> 02:49:53,160 jobs and writer of resumes on the producers list. No 2879 02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:53,970 Unknown: jobs, 2880 02:49:54,120 --> 02:49:58,350 jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 2881 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:05,820 Adam Curry: karma. And that concludes our executive and 2882 02:50:05,820 --> 02:50:09,450 Associate Executive producers for episode 1640 of the best 2883 02:50:09,450 --> 02:50:13,800 podcast in the universe. We appreciate your contributions, 2884 02:50:13,800 --> 02:50:17,280 and you not only get the perfect value of the show, but with 2885 02:50:17,280 --> 02:50:20,760 these comes credits that are that are valuable. First of all, 2886 02:50:20,760 --> 02:50:23,820 they're also accepted anywhere. Even in a courtroom. If you're 2887 02:50:23,820 --> 02:50:29,790 being sued for manslaughter, you will still be credited as an 2888 02:50:29,790 --> 02:50:32,640 executive producer of the manslaughter organization, or 2889 02:50:32,640 --> 02:50:35,460 the Associate Executive producer or you can just use it on your 2890 02:50:35,460 --> 02:50:39,210 resume and look cool. Put on your LinkedIn profile on your ex 2891 02:50:39,240 --> 02:50:42,930 profile on your Insta, or go ahead and open up a profile 2892 02:50:42,960 --> 02:50:46,470 imdb.com Because these credits are real and accepted by 2893 02:50:46,470 --> 02:50:49,620 Hollywood. We thank you very much. We'll be thanking a whole 2894 02:50:49,620 --> 02:50:54,570 bunch of people now as John takes us through to the 50s is 2895 02:50:55,320 --> 02:50:58,260 John C Dvorak: indeed I was looking at the New Zealand 2896 02:50:58,260 --> 02:51:03,210 dollars, starting with Brian McIver in Portage or Portage 2897 02:51:04,470 --> 02:51:08,610 question one way or the other. Michigan wants 6867 Which by the 2898 02:51:08,610 --> 02:51:10,560 way is a double boobs donation. 2899 02:51:10,590 --> 02:51:11,760 Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. 2900 02:51:13,590 --> 02:51:18,840 John C Dvorak: Pro process process. Process step, Nick, of 2901 02:51:18,840 --> 02:51:30,210 the grab your lines in Tanya, Illinois. One One. Press press. 2902 02:51:30,210 --> 02:51:36,270 Det Nick's dad introduced prosthet Nick to the show. I 2903 02:51:36,270 --> 02:51:43,800 hated it. He says or she says I don't know. Okay, I en je 2904 02:51:43,800 --> 02:51:52,380 Gilovich in Wheatland Wyoming 105342 That's a that's a 2905 02:51:52,410 --> 02:51:58,080 legging. Joe Rogan donation. And Leroy Pacheco. 2906 02:51:59,280 --> 02:52:01,620 Adam Curry: Please do douche please the douche there. So 2907 02:52:03,360 --> 02:52:05,220 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2908 02:52:06,360 --> 02:52:11,130 John C Dvorak: Leroy Pacheco. Pacheco or Pacheco. Pacheco, 2909 02:52:11,160 --> 02:52:14,640 it's got to be Pachenko in Santa Fe, New Mexico. 100 I can tell 2910 02:52:14,640 --> 02:52:18,660 this is gonna be a tough read the whole way. Kelly's Bong Berg 2911 02:52:18,660 --> 02:52:24,900 and Rocky Mountain House in Alberta. Canada. 100. No 2912 02:52:24,900 --> 02:52:28,140 jingles? No karma? Yeah. Was for sure. Kevin McLaughlin comes up 2913 02:52:28,140 --> 02:52:31,980 there he is in Concord, North Carolina. 808. Ladies, please 2914 02:52:31,980 --> 02:52:38,220 protect your rack. Surrender lab rat, lab rat of kin, Natasha 2915 02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:46,590 Kinshasa in just shot Ken Shusha Ken Shusha and Shusha. Kansas 2916 02:52:46,590 --> 02:52:52,530 Ville, Wisconsin 7330. As a birthday for his brother and he 2917 02:52:53,490 --> 02:52:56,400 Unknown: wants a biscuit. They always give me a biscuit on my 2918 02:52:56,400 --> 02:52:57,180 birthday. We 2919 02:52:57,180 --> 02:52:57,960 John C Dvorak: do biscuits, we 2920 02:52:57,960 --> 02:52:58,620 Adam Curry: do biscuits. 2921 02:52:58,650 --> 02:53:01,290 John C Dvorak: We do biscuits. Scott, Maryland, Vancouver, 2922 02:53:01,290 --> 02:53:07,590 Washington. 6991. Used to be in Beaverton. You're gonna yank 2923 02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:16,620 Cova in chess, Cheshire Cheshire oh my god man. UK 6789. Grayson 2924 02:53:16,680 --> 02:53:20,430 insurance Grayson insurance in Aurora Colorado. Check him out. 2925 02:53:20,430 --> 02:53:28,710 606 lucid map and Bristol Tennessee 658 33 Less tar kowski 2926 02:53:28,770 --> 02:53:34,980 in Kingman Arizona. 58 James Carter and Spicewood Texas 5798 2927 02:53:34,980 --> 02:53:37,530 Adam Curry: He says please use this donation to bring more 2928 02:53:37,530 --> 02:53:41,220 Africa clips to the show okay you got donate more for that man 2929 02:53:41,220 --> 02:53:41,700 we lose two 2930 02:53:41,700 --> 02:53:43,140 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's got to be in the you have to be 2931 02:53:43,140 --> 02:53:46,020 executive producer to get down remittance people over Africa 2932 02:53:46,020 --> 02:53:51,120 clips sir tooth fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana. 5510 Sir 2933 02:53:51,120 --> 02:53:56,640 Tom dari, our buddy in DeForest, Wisconsin 5510 Troy funderburk 2934 02:53:57,000 --> 02:54:04,530 in Missoula, Missoula, Montana 55 Sir John, in Heber Springs, 2935 02:54:04,530 --> 02:54:14,280 Arkansas. 5317. Michael gates 52 at Julie McNeil in St. Gabriel, 2936 02:54:14,280 --> 02:54:21,780 Louisiana 5272 Take a look at that note, Andrew whims stir in 2937 02:54:22,200 --> 02:54:27,600 Munich Deutschland are moonshine as it should be pronounced 5272 2938 02:54:28,140 --> 02:54:35,310 John Paul's saying in Chanhassen, Minnesota 3272 John 2939 02:54:35,670 --> 02:54:42,540 P belt and an S Astbury New Jersey 5272 Or one sad puppy 2940 02:54:42,540 --> 02:54:45,540 donation which is going to continue for a while. James 2941 02:54:45,540 --> 02:54:49,980 powers 5272 I'm guessing these are all 52 Dark $50 donations 2942 02:54:49,980 --> 02:54:50,070 that 2943 02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:52,260 Adam Curry: have been out there they've paid their font the fee. 2944 02:54:52,260 --> 02:54:54,540 Thank you. We appreciate that. St. 2945 02:54:54,570 --> 02:54:59,040 John C Dvorak: Stephen crummy in El Cajon de 272 Anonymous in 2946 02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:02,190 Clifton, New Jersey for Did you 71 How that happens I don't 2947 02:55:02,190 --> 02:55:08,880 know. Anonymous cop in Redwood City, California 5150 Josiah 2948 02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:17,610 Thomas and, and Kenny, Iowa. 51. Franklin, monta Rosa in Dodge 2949 02:55:17,610 --> 02:55:25,470 City, Kansas. 51 Travis Harrington in Sterling, Ontario, 2950 02:55:25,470 --> 02:55:27,990 Canada 5005 needs a de douching 2951 02:55:30,210 --> 02:55:32,070 Unknown: you've been de deuced 2952 02:55:33,780 --> 02:55:38,400 John C Dvorak: from Soviet occupied kaneka Stan and now we 2953 02:55:38,400 --> 02:55:41,280 have the $50 donors, so just go through them one name and 2954 02:55:41,280 --> 02:55:45,000 location starting with Lynn malinovski in Stafford, 2955 02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:50,730 Virginia. Cody Dowd in Corpus Christi, Texas. Miko, LeVar and 2956 02:55:50,730 --> 02:55:55,890 Williamston, Michigan, Alex avala and Kyle Texas, Chris 2957 02:55:56,190 --> 02:56:01,560 Harris Skog in Charlotte, North Carolina, David Asare in West 2958 02:56:01,560 --> 02:56:07,320 Hollywood. Jonathan Ferris and liberal Kansas Ryan Tiernan in 2959 02:56:07,320 --> 02:56:13,080 North Providence, Rhode Island, person of merit comics. In 2960 02:56:13,080 --> 02:56:16,920 Columbus, Ohio Chris Paul most in Thomas Burg Ontario. Lotta 2961 02:56:16,920 --> 02:56:20,340 50s. Today I have to say, Robertson home in Flint, 2962 02:56:20,340 --> 02:56:24,300 Michigan, Steven ray in Spokane, Washington. Edward Mazurek. Sir 2963 02:56:24,300 --> 02:56:30,630 Edward in Memphis, Tennessee. Justin Cruz into hatchapee Lisa 2964 02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:36,720 piles in South Lake Texas, Ray Howard in Kremmling. Colorado, 2965 02:56:36,750 --> 02:56:41,610 Colorado. Jason surday Jason deluzy on Miami Beach, Cary 2966 02:56:41,610 --> 02:56:44,730 Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee Brian Watson in Raleigh, North 2967 02:56:44,730 --> 02:56:49,440 Carolina Sir Brian Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota, Tracy 2968 02:56:49,440 --> 02:56:52,740 Sullivan in Tinley Park, Illinois, Brett Farrell, who I 2969 02:56:52,740 --> 02:56:56,670 believes in New York City, Walker Phillips in San Rafael, 2970 02:56:56,670 --> 02:57:02,010 California, Alex Salas, our Salah shower, something like 2971 02:57:02,010 --> 02:57:06,540 that in Shaker Heights, Ohio, Robert blury in Birmingham, 2972 02:57:06,540 --> 02:57:12,060 Alabama, and last but not least, in Holland, Dennis Reichel in 2973 02:57:12,450 --> 02:57:19,050 boogs law hooves and Dennis UGAs and Dennis Reiko in hope zones. 2974 02:57:19,620 --> 02:57:20,460 Book is zoned. 2975 02:57:21,990 --> 02:57:26,280 Adam Curry: Oh has zoned pocket zone which means Hi sand. 2976 02:57:26,730 --> 02:57:29,040 John C Dvorak: Well it also is a sad puppy donation want to thank 2977 02:57:29,040 --> 02:57:30,210 him for that. And thank 2978 02:57:30,210 --> 02:57:32,760 Adam Curry: you all so much. I really It's heartwarming to see 2979 02:57:32,760 --> 02:57:35,670 all the $50 donations you took the sad puppy to heart that's 2980 02:57:35,670 --> 02:57:38,400 appreciated we have almost a million people who listen to the 2981 02:57:38,400 --> 02:57:41,700 show on a monthly basis. So it's nice to see some of you coming 2982 02:57:41,700 --> 02:57:45,090 in and supporting us with a treasure time talent and 2983 02:57:45,090 --> 02:57:48,750 treasure here for the best podcast in the universe. It's 2984 02:57:48,750 --> 02:57:51,240 worth it is worth it has value for value and of course we 2985 02:57:51,240 --> 02:57:54,090 always think people come in under 50 We don't read those 2986 02:57:54,090 --> 02:57:58,170 names for reasons of anonymity 4999 is a favorite and big 2987 02:57:58,170 --> 02:58:02,490 thanks to everyone who signed up or is currently on a sustaining 2988 02:58:02,490 --> 02:58:08,310 donation. It can be any amount you want. The typical is 3333 or 2989 02:58:08,310 --> 02:58:12,780 1111 or 1212 These are all great numbers and just having those 2990 02:58:12,780 --> 02:58:15,450 helps us through the slower times we appreciate it thank you 2991 02:58:15,450 --> 02:58:18,720 all for supporting the no agenda show thank you to our executive 2992 02:58:18,720 --> 02:58:21,690 and Associate Executive producers for helping us here 2993 02:58:21,690 --> 02:58:24,030 for 1640 Our formula 2994 02:58:24,030 --> 02:58:27,960 Unknown: is this we go out we hit people in the mouth 2995 02:58:39,660 --> 02:58:42,750 Adam Curry: to become a producer go to no agenda donations.com 2996 02:58:49,530 --> 02:58:53,010 We always love congratulating our birthday babies Christopher 2997 02:58:53,010 --> 02:58:56,460 debater celebrate on the fourth of March so distribute Scott Sir 2998 02:58:56,460 --> 02:58:59,550 Brian with an eye celebrated last Tuesday. Hello Sir Brian 2999 02:58:59,550 --> 02:59:04,800 with an eye there yard sir lab rock lab rat of Ken Ken Shusha 3000 02:59:05,610 --> 02:59:09,960 celebrated on the ninth and serve be of the Chattahoochee 3001 02:59:09,960 --> 02:59:13,290 wishes three human resources a happy birthday, it's Danny on 3002 02:59:13,290 --> 02:59:18,120 March 11 Elisa or Eliza March 15 And Nico on March 16. And we say 3003 02:59:18,120 --> 02:59:20,790 happy birthday from everybody here in the best podcast in the 3004 02:59:20,790 --> 02:59:30,120 universe. One night Whoa, whoa, stop and stop. Mata control one 3005 02:59:30,120 --> 02:59:32,490 nights today find them we have a knight on deck. 3006 02:59:32,670 --> 02:59:34,170 John C Dvorak: Here we go. That's a good blade. We'll 3007 02:59:34,170 --> 02:59:38,400 Adam Curry: take that one. All right, James story pop on 3008 02:59:38,400 --> 02:59:41,670 Upserve Thank you very much for your continued donations, the 3009 02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:45,630 amount of aggregate $1,000 That brings you up to knighthood and 3010 02:59:45,630 --> 02:59:48,030 I'm very proud to bring you up here on the podium and 3011 02:59:48,030 --> 02:59:52,080 pronounced the cape V has surged James story night of the no 3012 02:59:52,080 --> 02:59:55,650 agenda roundtable for you sir hookers and blow rent boys and 3013 02:59:55,650 --> 02:59:59,490 Chardonnay by request brisket and bourbon. 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Thank you very 3019 03:00:18,270 --> 03:00:21,630 much sir it's good to have Nick back on table go to no agenda 3020 03:00:21,630 --> 03:00:25,230 rings.com You can look at the handsome rings that are 3021 03:00:25,290 --> 03:00:29,850 appropriate for nights and for names and give us your address 3022 03:00:29,850 --> 03:00:32,880 we can send that off to along with your ring sizes ring sizing 3023 03:00:32,880 --> 03:00:37,920 guide there on the website and it comes with your certificate 3024 03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:41,130 of authenticity and the wax because it's the signet ring 3025 03:00:41,130 --> 03:00:44,460 your wax to seal your in court important correspondence. We 3026 03:00:44,460 --> 03:00:47,130 always love that. We'd love receiving those and thank you 3027 03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:54,720 and for joining the Knights of the no agenda roundtable well 3028 03:00:57,150 --> 03:01:00,360 people are really enjoying the connection that they get it no 3029 03:01:00,360 --> 03:01:03,300 agenda meetups, it is the perfect companion to the show. 3030 03:01:03,870 --> 03:01:07,350 You can't just listen and not hook up with your with your 3031 03:01:07,380 --> 03:01:12,210 Gitmo nation family. A lot of people create groups on telegram 3032 03:01:12,210 --> 03:01:16,290 and of course there's Macedon where people congregate but 3033 03:01:16,290 --> 03:01:20,190 really going to a meet up that will really complete your it'll 3034 03:01:20,190 --> 03:01:23,190 complete your life if I can be honest about it. Connection is 3035 03:01:23,190 --> 03:01:26,940 protection and the Tulsa no agenda meetup from March proves 3036 03:01:26,940 --> 03:01:27,660 it in the 3037 03:01:27,660 --> 03:01:30,960 Unknown: morning to Sally in Tulsa, John and Adam I love you 3038 03:01:30,960 --> 03:01:33,090 so much. Changed my life. 3039 03:01:34,080 --> 03:01:36,480 Adam Curry: This is Aaron from Norman and the morning at night. 3040 03:01:36,510 --> 03:01:37,200 Unknown: Hey guys, 3041 03:01:37,230 --> 03:01:39,960 thanks so much. She broke my wife's brain with that moon 3042 03:01:39,960 --> 03:01:43,140 landing video. Thanks John. Great newsletters keep it up in 3043 03:01:43,140 --> 03:01:43,980 the morning guys. This 3044 03:01:43,980 --> 03:01:47,850 is Mark from right here in Tulsa where conspiracy theories are 3045 03:01:47,880 --> 03:01:51,300 awesome, but you guys are way more awesomer Hey, John. 3046 03:01:52,050 --> 03:01:55,230 Thank you so much for the no agenda meetups. They're amazing. 3047 03:01:55,230 --> 03:01:57,690 I've heard so many interesting things tonight. Oh, sorry. I 3048 03:01:57,690 --> 03:02:03,720 gotta order. I'm gonna have slaves do no bugs. No, without 3049 03:02:03,720 --> 03:02:05,610 please. Thank you. Ben memoria 3050 03:02:05,940 --> 03:02:11,160 from Tulsa is Gavino glad to see everybody here. I don't know 3051 03:02:11,160 --> 03:02:12,570 what else to say. 3052 03:02:13,740 --> 03:02:18,030 This is Sonya from Tulsa. Having another fun time at the meetup 3053 03:02:18,060 --> 03:02:21,630 and I'm here to remind you did not be a douchebag. 3054 03:02:25,980 --> 03:02:27,630 Hold on where the wind Coast 3055 03:02:28,350 --> 03:02:32,700 Adam Curry: blades. Now who wouldn't want to be a part of 3056 03:02:32,700 --> 03:02:36,630 that? That's a crew right there. Man. You meet children from 3057 03:02:36,630 --> 03:02:39,690 other lands at these meetups. Here's the new Detroit Southern 3058 03:02:40,020 --> 03:02:42,840 Pacific let me see you. What does this make sure I get it 3059 03:02:42,840 --> 03:02:46,860 right. The new Detroit Southern Pacific San Francisco 3060 03:02:46,860 --> 03:02:49,770 Unknown: meet up in the morning this is a recalcitrant crazy 3061 03:02:49,770 --> 03:02:52,860 Steve the second at the new Detroit meet up the pool man 3062 03:02:52,860 --> 03:02:55,020 says World War Three we'll be starting soon 3063 03:02:55,110 --> 03:02:59,280 sir Montauk here live and in person. This is the kind of SF 3064 03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:04,620 here host of the Southern Pacific new Detroit meet up 2.0 3065 03:03:04,620 --> 03:03:04,710 I 3066 03:03:04,710 --> 03:03:07,980 hope everyone's having a good time now to me Bilbo showed up 3067 03:03:08,310 --> 03:03:12,720 but the rain is coming down so no surprise there. Here we go. 3068 03:03:12,780 --> 03:03:13,410 Suresh 3069 03:03:13,410 --> 03:03:17,760 Meister and Adam and John Lorna big 3070 03:03:17,760 --> 03:03:20,640 Adam Curry: small doesn't matter yes always a good time to be had 3071 03:03:20,640 --> 03:03:24,720 have no agenda meetups go to no agenda meetups.com connection is 3072 03:03:24,720 --> 03:03:28,140 protection you cannot spell community without unity and if 3073 03:03:28,140 --> 03:03:31,200 you can't find one near you start one yourself it's easy it 3074 03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:44,430 always fun day you will be triggered you 3075 03:03:46,920 --> 03:03:48,600 Unknown: say 3076 03:03:49,920 --> 03:03:52,980 Adam Curry: is like apart and for some reason. I don't know 3077 03:03:52,980 --> 03:03:55,830 why I forgot to promote the meetups that are happening 3078 03:03:55,830 --> 03:04:00,690 today. Let me do it now. The northern wake spring cleaning 3079 03:04:00,690 --> 03:04:04,440 soiree at six o'clock. That's it. Happy Endings in Raleigh, 3080 03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:08,760 North Carolina. We on Saturday, we have the Beefeaters anonymous 3081 03:04:08,760 --> 03:04:11,340 that will be at noon that's in the UK at the Brass Rail in 3082 03:04:11,340 --> 03:04:14,820 London. St. Paul, that trusted advisor organizing that to get 3083 03:04:14,820 --> 03:04:18,480 out there you Brett's San Antonio March meet up now with 3084 03:04:18,480 --> 03:04:22,950 50% More NAT pops one o'clock on Saturday, second pitch beer 3085 03:04:22,950 --> 03:04:26,460 company in San Antonio. We have the South Jersey meetup taking 3086 03:04:26,460 --> 03:04:29,550 place is the World War Three watch party at Miller's Ale 3087 03:04:29,550 --> 03:04:32,250 House in Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey. Brett hosting that 3088 03:04:32,250 --> 03:04:35,490 for you, Michigan local one pre St. Patty's meet up. That's 3089 03:04:35,490 --> 03:04:38,970 right. St. Patty's is on the way to o'clock at Fillmore 13 3090 03:04:38,970 --> 03:04:42,570 brewery in Pontiac, Michigan, the tiny middle of Anchorage 3091 03:04:42,570 --> 03:04:45,720 we'll be meeting daylight Daylight Savings Time protest. 3092 03:04:47,010 --> 03:04:50,040 That'll be on Saturday, two o'clock Alaska time sir Lane's 3093 03:04:50,040 --> 03:04:53,130 house in Anchorage that should be fun at his house. The meetup 3094 03:04:53,190 --> 03:04:58,230 Zedong's number one connection is protection. Cafe bubble 3095 03:04:58,230 --> 03:05:02,970 marked at five For Dr. Middleburg the Netherlands I are 3096 03:05:02,970 --> 03:05:06,750 assumed to be named the Goo Goo Dolls is is hosting that so 3097 03:05:06,750 --> 03:05:09,960 definitely you you good ahead head over there. And our next 3098 03:05:09,960 --> 03:05:13,680 show day Sunday Albuquerque 505 At one o'clock at Urban 360 3099 03:05:13,680 --> 03:05:17,010 pizza so Jeff to Hague will be hosting that in Albuquerque New 3100 03:05:17,010 --> 03:05:20,760 Mexico the Charleston no agenda live stream listen party that'll 3101 03:05:20,760 --> 03:05:23,520 be fun two o'clock at Charleston's distilling company 3102 03:05:24,180 --> 03:05:28,920 JOHN'S ISLAND South Carolina on Sunday and finally the indie no 3103 03:05:28,920 --> 03:05:32,340 agenda tribal mad March meet up three o'clock Eastern prodigy 3104 03:05:32,340 --> 03:05:38,400 Burger Bar Indianapolis Indiana Dame mark and Sir Mark and de 3105 03:05:38,400 --> 03:05:41,490 Maria of the Greenwood of course hosting that those you know 3106 03:05:41,490 --> 03:05:45,300 agenda meet up thank you very much and now it's time for ISOs 3107 03:05:46,920 --> 03:05:49,590 John C Dvorak: wow, I know that's a different segue. I 3108 03:05:49,590 --> 03:05:51,780 Adam Curry: know it because normally I do the jingle on my 3109 03:05:51,780 --> 03:05:55,830 screwed it up as I am for ISOs for ISOs I'll start with mine. 3110 03:05:55,830 --> 03:05:56,850 How does that sound? 3111 03:05:57,300 --> 03:05:58,020 John C Dvorak: Sounds good to me. 3112 03:05:58,050 --> 03:06:00,930 Adam Curry: Oh I got a whole bunch of them here a bunch I got 3113 03:06:00,930 --> 03:06:05,430 a bunch I don't know if they're any good if any Gude okay here 3114 03:06:05,430 --> 03:06:11,370 we go. Number one big energy Big D energy you'd liked it when it 3115 03:06:11,370 --> 03:06:14,250 was in the clip not so great as an ISO I can tell shade 3116 03:06:14,250 --> 03:06:17,790 Unknown: all the way down. No, I don't like that one either. The 3117 03:06:17,790 --> 03:06:22,050 American people are tired. We played for suckers. No. This one 3118 03:06:22,080 --> 03:06:28,350 that's it. No other reason. rarely hear it. Now this one me 3119 03:06:28,350 --> 03:06:29,580 hate shrink Felician 3120 03:06:30,780 --> 03:06:33,540 Adam Curry: as the only one I think is? Possibly Yeah, 3121 03:06:33,570 --> 03:06:36,930 John C Dvorak: I get four. There we go. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye. 3122 03:06:36,930 --> 03:06:38,250 Adam Curry: Bye. Bye. Bye. 3123 03:06:39,810 --> 03:06:40,710 John C Dvorak: I don't like the winter. 3124 03:06:40,740 --> 03:06:41,940 Adam Curry: I like that one. Yes. 3125 03:06:42,480 --> 03:06:44,310 John C Dvorak: Keep going. Keep going. Keep 3126 03:06:44,310 --> 03:06:45,420 Unknown: going. You dummies. 3127 03:06:45,630 --> 03:06:47,130 Adam Curry: I like that one a lot. 3128 03:06:49,110 --> 03:06:53,670 John C Dvorak: I like that one the most. So cute. That was so 3129 03:06:53,670 --> 03:07:00,840 cute. And then Dershowitz. We cannot trust the media. 3130 03:07:01,830 --> 03:07:02,370 Unknown: Oh, 3131 03:07:04,470 --> 03:07:05,880 Adam Curry: that's that's tight. I 3132 03:07:05,880 --> 03:07:08,520 John C Dvorak: came loaded for bear. You did? Keep going. Keep 3133 03:07:08,520 --> 03:07:09,600 going you dummies. 3134 03:07:09,690 --> 03:07:12,930 Adam Curry: I think that's the best one. Actually, I think 3135 03:07:12,930 --> 03:07:15,810 that's the best one. All right, keep grinding. Keep going into 3136 03:07:16,140 --> 03:07:22,080 news. Good news. Good news. Good news. Good news. Good news as 3137 03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:24,690 we'd like to end our show with some good news. So you can go 3138 03:07:24,690 --> 03:07:28,110 into the weekend in this case, into Friday into the State of 3139 03:07:28,110 --> 03:07:30,990 the Union into everything just feeling good about yourself 3140 03:07:30,990 --> 03:07:33,480 feeling good about life feeling good about people helping each 3141 03:07:33,480 --> 03:07:37,140 other. And some good news as John brings the good news to 3142 03:07:37,140 --> 03:07:37,530 you. 3143 03:07:39,090 --> 03:07:42,840 John C Dvorak: This is about Kevin Bacon the pig. in 3144 03:07:42,840 --> 03:07:46,110 Unknown: Kenosha County. A local family had an unexpected 3145 03:07:46,110 --> 03:07:49,560 visitor, one that took them on the adventure of a lifetime. Our 3146 03:07:49,560 --> 03:07:49,950 Jeffrey's 3147 03:07:49,950 --> 03:07:54,780 in Pawnee introduces us to a 450 pound pig from Brighton. And the 3148 03:07:54,780 --> 03:07:58,410 pig Hand of God is named Kevin Bacon. Kevin 3149 03:07:58,410 --> 03:08:03,810 Bacon is a gentle giant. He's a 450 pound pig who loves taking 3150 03:08:03,810 --> 03:08:06,990 walks, meeting new people and more than anything. 3151 03:08:09,720 --> 03:08:11,010 eating donuts. 3152 03:08:11,460 --> 03:08:14,820 Brighton resident Jake mole guard was home Friday night when 3153 03:08:14,820 --> 03:08:17,760 his wife discovered something unusual. Or 3154 03:08:17,760 --> 03:08:20,220 the night around eight o'clock. I'm watching TV and my wife 3155 03:08:20,220 --> 03:08:24,180 comes in the room and says Jake, I think there's a pig on her 3156 03:08:24,210 --> 03:08:26,550 driveway camera and I'm like, Are you serious? 3157 03:08:26,580 --> 03:08:29,910 Kevin Bacon was standing at their back door. He wandered 3158 03:08:29,910 --> 03:08:33,570 from a nearby hobby farm and wanted to say hello morguard 3159 03:08:33,570 --> 03:08:37,260 made a few phone calls and found his owner who was out of town 3160 03:08:37,260 --> 03:08:38,940 for the weekend. Yeah, 3161 03:08:39,150 --> 03:08:42,450 that's that's definitely my pig. Is he? He's big black pig. I 3162 03:08:42,450 --> 03:08:46,350 said yeah. He's like, Yeah, his name is Kevin Bacon. And he's 3163 03:08:46,350 --> 03:08:48,330 actually a little lonely, so he's probably just looking for 3164 03:08:48,330 --> 03:08:49,140 company with 3165 03:08:49,140 --> 03:08:52,380 some assistance from the Kenosha Sheriff's Department. The 3166 03:08:52,380 --> 03:08:56,580 morguard family brought Kevin home, a one mile walk that took 3167 03:08:56,580 --> 03:09:00,450 an incredible two and a half hours. At one point Jake's 3168 03:09:00,450 --> 03:09:04,170 daughter Chloe had to climb Kevin's back to get him going. 3169 03:09:06,750 --> 03:09:09,510 The owner said that if he's if he stops on he can get drunk on 3170 03:09:09,510 --> 03:09:12,090 his back and he likes to likes to run at that point. The 3171 03:09:12,090 --> 03:09:15,810 mall guards learned Kevin home with Oreo cookies and anything 3172 03:09:15,810 --> 03:09:18,840 else they found in the fridge. Not only did they get them back 3173 03:09:18,840 --> 03:09:21,000 home, they made a friend for life. 3174 03:09:21,360 --> 03:09:24,030 They all wanted to adopt them immediately. And I said we don't 3175 03:09:24,030 --> 03:09:28,560 have a place to put a 450 pound pig but yeah, they they fell in 3176 03:09:28,560 --> 03:09:29,880 love with it right away. Good 3177 03:09:29,880 --> 03:09:33,630 boy. Here we have Kevin back home safe and sound maybe a 3178 03:09:33,630 --> 03:09:37,350 little tuckered out from his one mile walk but he appears to be 3179 03:09:37,350 --> 03:09:42,360 in good spirits in Kenosha, Jeffries and ponte. TMJ for news 3180 03:09:42,390 --> 03:09:43,800 Ah, 3181 03:09:44,100 --> 03:09:48,060 Adam Curry: what a great story. I really like that. 3182 03:09:48,390 --> 03:09:51,930 John C Dvorak: The video of the little girl writing the pig 3183 03:09:51,930 --> 03:09:53,130 mustard was the best 3184 03:09:57,090 --> 03:10:06,030 Unknown: news of the day Good news on na what has me me given 3185 03:10:06,030 --> 03:10:08,250 John to play today? 3186 03:10:09,240 --> 03:10:11,820 Adam Curry: There you go good news we do it every single show 3187 03:10:12,210 --> 03:10:16,710 And that wraps up another more than three hours of 3188 03:10:16,710 --> 03:10:21,150 deconstruction just for your listening pleasure we have after 3189 03:10:21,150 --> 03:10:24,990 a two year hiatus coming up next on no agenda stream.com and all 3190 03:10:24,990 --> 03:10:29,070 the modern podcast apps unfiltered show they're back 3191 03:10:31,110 --> 03:10:31,770 remember them 3192 03:10:32,940 --> 03:10:34,860 John C Dvorak: Are they back that touch the two of them had a 3193 03:10:34,860 --> 03:10:35,790 falling out 3194 03:10:35,820 --> 03:10:39,870 Adam Curry: apparently two year hiatus they're back this season 3195 03:10:39,870 --> 03:10:44,160 of information control is the title of their episode while I'm 3196 03:10:44,160 --> 03:10:47,190 happy to see these guys back and back on the screen because both 3197 03:10:47,190 --> 03:10:50,160 of them not just one I think so we'll find out I haven't heard 3198 03:10:50,160 --> 03:10:55,170 it. And of show mixes classic from Sir TJ the wrathful with 3199 03:10:55,170 --> 03:11:00,510 the dorsal the dorsal dudes and dudettes little Brandon mix for 3200 03:11:00,510 --> 03:11:06,270 you. We also have the clip collector with an end of show 3201 03:11:06,270 --> 03:11:09,960 mix and sound guy Steve with a great little ditty that will 3202 03:11:09,960 --> 03:11:13,770 just get your poppin into your Thursday night. Coming to you 3203 03:11:13,770 --> 03:11:16,620 from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region 3204 03:11:16,620 --> 03:11:19,290 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 3205 03:11:19,860 --> 03:11:21,930 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, we have a shout 3206 03:11:21,930 --> 03:11:25,350 out for a Ichi kid at GAO who somehow I missed on the list. 3207 03:11:25,470 --> 03:11:26,550 I'm John C. Dvorak, 3208 03:11:26,580 --> 03:11:29,250 Adam Curry: we return on Sunday to talk about your State of the 3209 03:11:29,250 --> 03:11:32,640 Union and the state of the world. Right here on no agenda. 3210 03:11:32,640 --> 03:11:35,850 Remember us at no agenda donations.com Till then adios 3211 03:11:35,850 --> 03:11:37,620 mofos a hui Hui Ensign 3212 03:11:40,140 --> 03:11:41,130 Unknown: Brandon 3213 03:11:43,290 --> 03:11:52,440 we don't talk on election time economy was booming Andrew was 3214 03:11:52,440 --> 03:11:56,760 in a cloud sky out loud in the sky 3215 03:11:58,020 --> 03:12:08,910 scam begin science you Dynastar sorry my son go six feet that's 3216 03:12:08,910 --> 03:12:09,900 what they tell 3217 03:12:13,290 --> 03:12:17,310 that's crazy question what the experts 3218 03:12:17,310 --> 03:12:21,540 say skip back to you slaves we don't talk 3219 03:12:29,430 --> 03:12:34,170 the SEC we're gonna start here sort of monitoring a mumbling I 3220 03:12:34,170 --> 03:12:38,610 associated with the sound go you know this you know the thing she 3221 03:12:38,610 --> 03:12:42,120 takes heavy snips into the frightening always also he was 3222 03:12:42,120 --> 03:12:46,260 supposed to be speaking points words that no one understands 3223 03:12:46,290 --> 03:12:53,640 not a joke think about a four year term creep So build back 3224 03:12:54,180 --> 03:13:00,570 think about sow was from the 3225 03:13:07,740 --> 03:13:16,890 need to hear they say it's for your health. What have we got to 3226 03:13:16,890 --> 03:13:24,390 show Pfizer's got the wealth economy scrapped. You can bank 3227 03:13:24,660 --> 03:13:29,340 if this is normal now. We're gonna need some serious help. 3228 03:13:29,520 --> 03:13:31,230 But who gets seamless? 3229 03:13:31,290 --> 03:13:34,590 I don't know buddy, but I'm really scared. Could the 3230 03:13:34,590 --> 03:13:37,470 government help pay Yeah, they can just print out some more 3231 03:13:37,470 --> 03:13:43,110 money is that inflation? It's just paper. Thanks Brandon. 3232 03:13:43,620 --> 03:13:44,730 You want a six 3233 03:13:44,730 --> 03:13:51,390 feet in the ground not with a mascot of being your card 3234 03:13:51,390 --> 03:13:56,340 freaking crazy removed jab right in your arm probably 3235 03:13:56,340 --> 03:13:57,600 still positive. 3236 03:14:13,260 --> 03:14:13,950 Yours 3237 03:14:27,420 --> 03:14:29,790 Joe brand and I agree consciousness 3238 03:14:29,790 --> 03:14:34,560 itself as a diaphragm or a drum bass knows that and that that 3239 03:14:34,560 --> 03:14:38,580 drum grows when it's stretched to notes that and when it's 3240 03:14:38,580 --> 03:14:43,260 stretched and it grows, it's able to interpret bass notes, 3241 03:14:43,260 --> 03:14:50,100 bass note notes that it did not have before because it wasn't as 3242 03:14:50,100 --> 03:14:55,410 wide. So the aperture of your consciousness just can be 3243 03:14:55,410 --> 03:14:59,340 stretched and you will see things that other people will 3244 03:14:59,340 --> 03:15:09,360 not See The amygdala is giving you a barometric Mikulas number 3245 03:15:09,360 --> 03:15:13,260 about how afraid geolocalization was and so when you're in a 3246 03:15:13,260 --> 03:15:17,190 certain situation, you're one of the many jobs that your amygdala 3247 03:15:17,190 --> 03:15:20,850 has just to give you constant feedback about how much you're 3248 03:15:20,850 --> 03:15:27,930 freaking the fuck out right now. Right? If too much information 3249 03:15:27,930 --> 03:15:32,760 comes in the amygdala knows that you as the pilot are going to 3250 03:15:32,760 --> 03:15:39,150 lose your shit and you're going to black out black out. Waking 3251 03:15:39,150 --> 03:15:42,870 news of the day, President Biden child Trump, Tucker Carlson, 3252 03:15:42,870 --> 03:15:47,040 five Biden, President Biden, Biden, Biden, Joe Biden, five, 3253 03:15:48,510 --> 03:15:51,750 Biden, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump branded Trump, 3254 03:15:51,750 --> 03:15:56,550 Trump, Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Tucker, Carlson, Tucker, 3255 03:15:56,550 --> 03:15:59,880 Tucker, Carlson. Carlson, 3256 03:16:00,030 --> 03:16:04,170 do you follow me? President Biden, Trump's Biden, Elon, Musk 3257 03:16:04,350 --> 03:16:08,790 Tucker, Tucker, Ukraine, Russia, Ukraine, Michelle Obama, Ukraine 3258 03:16:08,790 --> 03:16:13,440 Twitter inflation. I guess the breaking news is this case in 3259 03:16:13,440 --> 03:16:17,250 Ukraine, two year anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 3260 03:16:17,460 --> 03:16:22,140 Another American citizen is in custody in Russia, Gaza, war 3261 03:16:22,140 --> 03:16:26,340 Ukraine, Israel, Hamas war Israel and Hamas Barak Obama, 3262 03:16:26,400 --> 03:16:30,240 President Biden, could it be Trump Donald Trump? Democracy 3263 03:16:30,240 --> 03:16:34,410 Donald Trump president by the Trump Joe Biden the Biden's with 3264 03:16:34,410 --> 03:16:37,950 Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Michelle Obama, Trump 3265 03:16:37,980 --> 03:16:41,610 pathological Donald Trump, 18, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, 3266 03:16:41,610 --> 03:16:46,260 Trump, Joe Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden, Donald 3267 03:16:46,260 --> 03:16:48,930 Trump, that is crazy. This 3268 03:16:48,930 --> 03:16:49,620 John C Dvorak: is entertaining. 3269 03:16:57,750 --> 03:17:00,750 Unknown: borak.org/in 3270 03:17:02,130 --> 03:17:04,230 Keep going. Keep going, you dummies.