1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,390 John C Dvorak: Putin endorses Trump. Adam curry, 2 00:00:03,510 --> 00:00:06,690 Unknown: Jhansi Dvorak July 4 2020 3 00:00:06,690 --> 00:00:08,730 Adam Curry: for this year award winning combination media 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,070 assassination episode 16. Saudi 5 00:00:11,790 --> 00:00:14,820 Unknown: is no agenda celebrating 6 00:00:14,820 --> 00:00:17,850 Adam Curry: America and broadcasting live from the heart 7 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:20,880 of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,860 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,800 John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern Silicon Valley where we say 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Happy Fourth of July Independence Day in wise Ted 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,110 Nugent, not in the Hall of Fame and Johnson. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,810 Unknown: Buzzkill. 13 00:00:35,190 --> 00:00:37,800 Adam Curry: That's because Ted Nugent refuses to be in the Hall 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:44,550 of Fame. He outright refuses to be with the dishes. He didn't 15 00:00:44,550 --> 00:00:46,230 know that. Well, I 16 00:00:46,230 --> 00:00:49,350 John C Dvorak: know that he was never invited early on. No. And 17 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:51,660 Adam Curry: that's why, you know, once abogado I mean, why 18 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:55,050 would Ted Nugent want to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,270 Let's be honest, 20 00:00:57,390 --> 00:00:59,160 John C Dvorak: it's now just stubborn. I don't blame him, 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,760 though. No, of 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,330 Adam Curry: course not. Hey, I think we have a determining 23 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:09,180 factor that the economy is not doing well. And also noticed by 24 00:01:09,180 --> 00:01:14,250 many other trolls this morning, remarkably, less free fireworks 25 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:15,420 going off this year. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,940 John C Dvorak: Ah, yeah, I'd say that's the case here too. And I 27 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:25,410 will say this. We have a third of July, the best fireworks 28 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:31,770 display, at least where I am. In the East Bay is the Richmond 29 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:36,660 third of July fireworks display, which they wisely do the day 30 00:01:36,660 --> 00:01:40,650 before the fourth because on the fourth, I'd say nine times out 31 00:01:40,650 --> 00:01:42,240 of 10. The fog rolls in the room. 32 00:01:42,810 --> 00:01:46,140 Adam Curry: It's true. The two times I was out there for Fourth 33 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:49,590 of July, it was completely socked in and I didn't, didn't 34 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:53,130 you and I go up to some building at one point we were above the 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,010 the cloud layer. You could see the fireworks kind of poking 36 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:59,790 through. Or is that was that my imagine? I 37 00:01:59,790 --> 00:02:01,170 John C Dvorak: have done stuff like that. 38 00:02:01,260 --> 00:02:05,670 Adam Curry: I remember Jay was there I think she was like 14 or 39 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:07,170 15 is Am I crazy? 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,890 John C Dvorak: Well, that's beside the point. Okay, thanks. 41 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:16,710 So they did the third of July fireworks which is always a 42 00:02:16,710 --> 00:02:18,870 winner because there's no fog and there's usually a slight 43 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:22,110 breeze so it's it's actually perfect day to do it. Yeah, 44 00:02:22,140 --> 00:02:24,750 around here. As you mentioned, it's always fogged in on the 45 00:02:24,750 --> 00:02:28,140 fourth. It's always on the fourth. You'll sit I don't think 46 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:32,970 it's gonna be today. Tonight. But nine out of 10 times it 47 00:02:32,970 --> 00:02:37,860 sucks in so I noticed that there was they didn't have like last 48 00:02:37,860 --> 00:02:41,520 year they had all these crazy fireworks heart giant hearts, 49 00:02:41,820 --> 00:02:47,460 triple hearts happy faces. And my favorite one which I just 50 00:02:47,490 --> 00:02:51,720 every time I saw it I said how did they do that? A giant cube. 51 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:58,320 Yo boom a cube. Damn is thing uma cute now there was no fancy 52 00:02:58,350 --> 00:03:01,950 there was just big bombs or big Yeah, big you know the big 53 00:03:01,950 --> 00:03:05,760 blossoms and that was it. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Now I 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,080 thought it was disappointing. 55 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:12,150 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, I all I know is that last year and the 56 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:14,430 year before both years we're out here in Hill Country Hill 57 00:03:14,430 --> 00:03:18,930 Country. You can't drive from Austin to Fredericksburg on 58 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:24,120 route 290 without passing by eight or nine firework sheds 59 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:26,640 John C Dvorak: that are citing fire that would be normal in the 60 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:27,330 South. Very 61 00:03:27,330 --> 00:03:30,150 Adam Curry: normal. Very normal. And I just haven't heard it. 62 00:03:30,150 --> 00:03:33,900 There's been I think, like maybe three days ago someone said 63 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:36,780 something off, which of course is where in the hill country 64 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:40,530 play the get the game. Fireworks or gunfire. We're never really 65 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:45,480 sure. But there was nothing last night I heard one like lady 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,010 finger poop. Like okay, the economy is bad people is bad. 67 00:03:50,580 --> 00:03:52,620 Got no money to blow it up in the air night. 68 00:03:52,740 --> 00:03:56,580 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't know. Richmond itself it when 69 00:03:56,580 --> 00:03:59,490 they have the San Francisco fireworks, the whole town of 70 00:03:59,490 --> 00:04:05,040 Richmond and as I say half of Oakland, become home brew 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,490 fireworks. Oh, that's the best homebrew fireworks are the best. 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,510 Things are blowing up left and right. Usually they're usually 73 00:04:12,510 --> 00:04:16,440 done by kind of these block parties led by some guy named 74 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,160 lefty 75 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:19,320 Adam Curry: in Oakland 76 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:23,190 John C Dvorak: doesn't matter. Well, no, I 77 00:04:23,190 --> 00:04:29,550 Adam Curry: know lefty. Yeah, I gotcha. So I've been collecting 78 00:04:29,550 --> 00:04:33,690 a couple of clips about President Biden and and you 79 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:36,120 know, I think the beautiful thing right now and you cannot 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,050 tell me we are not in the season of reveal. Now that everyone 81 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:44,370 everybody that means Well, Joe Biden is not competent. 82 00:04:44,370 --> 00:04:50,220 Everybody knows that. I hope. I hope that people also see that 83 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:53,640 the media has been lying all this time while they're 84 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:57,450 desperately trying to cover that up with all kinds of reporting 85 00:04:57,540 --> 00:05:02,400 about other things besides their lies. No one that in the media 86 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,230 has called out the jurien for lying about the cheap fakes that 87 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:12,600 was the most blatant, obviously. In fact, and I don't have clips 88 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,620 of that, but I even heard, I think on CNN has been the best 89 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:19,470 and especially Jake Tapper. You know, he's just sitting there 90 00:05:19,470 --> 00:05:22,410 saying, Well, you know, we we saw a world leaders are trying 91 00:05:22,410 --> 00:05:24,780 to kind of huddle themselves around the president A D day 92 00:05:24,780 --> 00:05:28,230 like, that's what jurien called a cheap fake and said the media 93 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:33,990 coined that phrase. It's really as we're in an unbelievable time 94 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:37,110 right now. I just don't know if anyone cares. 95 00:05:39,660 --> 00:05:41,190 John C Dvorak: I don't see how it's that different during the 96 00:05:41,190 --> 00:05:41,940 COVID era. 97 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:45,720 Adam Curry: Window is not it's not different. But But now, the 98 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,350 lies 99 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:50,130 John C Dvorak: there's a couple of things to note are one they 100 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:55,560 move the the George Stephanopoulos by interview 101 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,380 interview to tomorrow, prime time tomorrow primetime. was 102 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:03,030 Sunday was supposed to be Sunday. 103 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:04,710 Adam Curry: Oh, I thought I thought it was Friday. Do they 104 00:06:04,710 --> 00:06:07,260 move it from Friday to Sunday? Is that what they do? I was 105 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:09,660 John C Dvorak: always as the Sunday shows his Oh, 106 00:06:09,930 --> 00:06:14,100 Stephanopoulos weekend thing. But they took it and moved it to 107 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,440 primetime. So I knew it was gonna be primetime Sunday or 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,390 when it's going to be Yeah, how 109 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:19,890 Adam Curry: much how much, you're gonna bet it's going to 110 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:20,940 be edited. 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,610 John C Dvorak: I'm not taking that bad. But it could be at but 112 00:06:26,610 --> 00:06:31,800 I was starting to think about this. And I saw I looked up I 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,130 hate to do this, because I tell people that you want to waste a 114 00:06:35,130 --> 00:06:39,810 lot of time. Do the follow up, do the Google Search Council on 115 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:46,860 Foreign Relations roster. Yes. So I went to the SS. I just 116 00:06:46,860 --> 00:06:48,750 wanted to make sure I think I already knew this step. 117 00:06:48,750 --> 00:06:53,070 INNOPOLIS was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. So 118 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:56,430 I went to the SS and I just want to read a few of the names. Go 119 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:58,350 go through here you guys and let's 120 00:06:58,380 --> 00:07:00,660 Adam Curry: let's just explain Council on Foreign Relations. 121 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:03,870 That's it is a drinking club, but not like Bilderberg 122 00:07:03,870 --> 00:07:06,870 Bilderberg is truly a wine and cheese club at this point. 123 00:07:07,950 --> 00:07:10,830 John C Dvorak: The Council on Foreign Relations is a globalist 124 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:15,990 cabal. If you're a member, you always have work, and you're 125 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:19,890 expected to perform a certain way. Yes. And I started to 126 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:22,950 notice this this the Council on Foreign Relations. It's all 127 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:27,090 their journalists, all of them. From Tom Friedman, who's in the 128 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:29,190 Council on Foreign Relations to the rest of them at the New York 129 00:07:29,190 --> 00:07:32,550 Times all these New York Times guys that are turned they have 130 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:37,290 turned on Biden. Yes. Great. They've all turned on by now I'm 131 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:41,010 gonna read some names from the SS and just because it's worth 132 00:07:41,190 --> 00:07:43,950 mentioning, we got to start with Jeffrey Sachs. You've heard of 133 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:47,250 him then yeah, go down and down in here. People like Barbara 134 00:07:47,250 --> 00:07:50,100 Christie Samuels. The second I don't know who that is, as 135 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:54,810 Sheryl Sandberg Of course, lean in. I mean, what y'all Yes. 136 00:07:54,810 --> 00:07:59,730 She's obvious expert. She's the CEO of a. She was a Facebook. 137 00:07:59,730 --> 00:08:03,720 Yes. And so she's obviously an expert on Foreign Relations. So 138 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,590 she should be in the club. Yeah. David Sanger, New York Times 139 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,270 with us. David sapper Steen Anthony Scaramucci, I forget 140 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:16,710 that he's on there. The mooch now the mooch was like, worked 141 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:19,980 for Trump for a while and then and we did an interview with him 142 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:22,800 for this show. It's one of the few interviews we do right. 143 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,010 Yeah. And he was seemed normal. And then all of a sudden he 144 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:28,230 turned on Trump out of the blue for no good reason. He was 145 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:30,960 obviously told to it. He got the call. He's He's like a hedge 146 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,590 fund guy with a restaurant. I mean, why is he an expert and 147 00:08:34,590 --> 00:08:40,770 Bitcoin and Bitcoin? Joe Scarborough, obviously is on the 148 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:45,300 list. Even though Brzezinski is not on the list, and he's turned 149 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:46,140 on Biden. 150 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:49,350 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, he had to I mean, he is really a 151 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:51,600 puppet. I mean, we've seen that over and over again. 152 00:08:52,890 --> 00:08:55,260 John C Dvorak: And then it ran into this. I forgot that she's 153 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:57,900 on the list. Vivian Schiller ah, 154 00:08:57,930 --> 00:09:02,280 Adam Curry: the old NPR lady. Yeah, advertising, 155 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,170 John C Dvorak: whatever you want to call it. Woman. 156 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,670 Adam Curry: Isn't she running? Oh, she's 157 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,610 John C Dvorak: a teacher doing some She's always got a job 158 00:09:08,610 --> 00:09:10,530 because people always get worried. 159 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,280 Adam Curry: Oh, she's the CEO of the Aspen Institute. No, no, no, 160 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,550 that can't be hold on a second. What is she doing? Let me see. 161 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,020 What is she doing now? So listen to this. She was former 162 00:09:22,020 --> 00:09:27,000 president, CEO of NPR, former head of news at Twitter. Former 163 00:09:27,690 --> 00:09:31,020 senior vice president at NBC News and indeed executive 164 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:36,180 director of aspen digital. So she's really on that she's 165 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:39,420 really on. She does the podcast for the Aspen Institute. You're 166 00:09:39,420 --> 00:09:41,340 on you're on the lowest rung Viv. 167 00:09:41,820 --> 00:09:45,510 John C Dvorak: Going down the list we have Eric Schmidt, XR 168 00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:51,000 bunny, who used to be the you know this Oh are the CTO of Sun 169 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,350 Microsystems became the CEO of Google, obvious expert on 170 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:57,900 Foreign Relations now that he 171 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:01,110 Adam Curry: is running the drone war the The miniature drone war 172 00:10:01,110 --> 00:10:04,080 in Ukraine. He's working Megan 173 00:10:04,110 --> 00:10:06,990 John C Dvorak: J. Smith. Isn't 174 00:10:06,990 --> 00:10:10,920 Adam Curry: that Kara Swisher is ex wife ex wife? Yeah, ex 175 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,450 husband, whatever, whatever you 176 00:10:12,450 --> 00:10:15,780 John C Dvorak: want to call her. Google? Yes. Great fun. That 177 00:10:15,780 --> 00:10:21,090 would be weird. Because by the way, just for your informations, 178 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Cara's not on the list. No, neither was Galloway and it 179 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,390 probably irks them. 180 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:30,150 Adam Curry: That they haven't been invited into 181 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:33,360 John C Dvorak: the CLI. Yeah, probably does. I'm not on the 182 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,840 list. Yeah, it probably does hurt him that you mentioned 183 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,390 that. Oh, Andrew Ross Sorkin Oh, yeah. Well on CNBC all the time, 184 00:10:42,390 --> 00:10:46,470 you X New York Times guy typical George and Jonathan Soros right 185 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:48,000 beneath them. Yes, 186 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,050 Adam Curry: Alex. Alex Soros not on the list. No, 187 00:10:52,050 --> 00:10:57,210 John C Dvorak: George and Jonathan. And they're stepping 188 00:10:57,210 --> 00:10:59,970 up a list and then I went through the rest of it. I would 189 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,320 define Patty stones, stone cipher, whatever her name is. 190 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,660 She's a Microsoft person. 191 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,100 Adam Curry: Go to the GC if Donald Gregg is still on there, 192 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:11,790 my uncle. 193 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,420 John C Dvorak: Do you help me finish this? Okay, yeah, I'll do 194 00:11:15,420 --> 00:11:19,380 that right now. Stonesifer, then Lawrence Summers we know then 195 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:24,960 John Sununu. Donald Greg. There's a lot of see there's an 196 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,660 interesting group of people. There's, there's a lot of New 197 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:31,560 York Times a lot of media people, a few actors. Lots of 198 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:32,430 gay people. 199 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:41,340 Adam Curry: Yeah, go look up my uncle, Greg. GR e Double G. I 200 00:11:41,340 --> 00:11:44,220 wonder. I wonder if he's still in I pray camp? No, 201 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:47,550 John C Dvorak: he's not good. Good for Uncle Don. Well, it 202 00:11:47,550 --> 00:11:49,830 doesn't mean he's not wanted. 203 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:53,910 Adam Curry: He he's, he wouldn't want to do it anymore. He's 204 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:56,310 done. He's tired of them all. Well, he 205 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:57,600 John C Dvorak: probably can't, you know. 206 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:00,450 Adam Curry: Anyway, let's go. Let's go to the Stephanopoulos 207 00:12:00,450 --> 00:12:02,220 is doing 208 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:05,400 John C Dvorak: so let me finish my thought. Which is that since 209 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,430 the Council on Foreign Relations, which includes these 210 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:12,150 people we mentioned, there's tons of others. Chelsea Clinton, 211 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:15,090 for example. Oh, yeah. Cuz she knows they've all turned on 212 00:12:15,090 --> 00:12:20,190 Biden. What's to make us think that this interview that they 213 00:12:20,190 --> 00:12:22,500 moved to primetime isn't a setup. 214 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:26,790 Adam Curry: I think that is exactly what the point is. I've 215 00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:31,470 been tracking ABC I have two clips from them. And they are 216 00:12:31,470 --> 00:12:36,660 starting to open the gap and leaving it wide open to kick the 217 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:37,620 old man through 218 00:12:37,650 --> 00:12:40,830 Unknown: in the first stunning indication that President Biden 219 00:12:40,830 --> 00:12:45,330 is seriously considering his next step. Sources tell ABC News 220 00:12:45,330 --> 00:12:49,380 Biden told at least two people his next few public appearances 221 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,890 are critical to determining whether he can stay in the race. 222 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:56,070 They say the President is keeping an open mind about his 223 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:59,940 path forward saying he knows he has to perform well on his 224 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:04,650 upcoming campaign stops as well as his Friday interview with ABC 225 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,740 George Stephanopoulos change public perception there 226 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:10,080 Adam Curry: this thing Friday, so I have a feeling they're not 227 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,210 going to wait until Sunday John that they're going to do it 228 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:15,000 Friday primetime when everybody's know 229 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:17,460 John C Dvorak: what the deal was. This was for his Sunday 230 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:20,490 show and they were going to record it on Friday. Which gives 231 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:25,200 him the two days to edit it. Yes. And the AI but if they're 232 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,820 going in the opposite, they're 233 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:28,770 Adam Curry: gonna they're gonna tank him. It's obvious they're 234 00:13:28,770 --> 00:13:29,550 gonna tank him 235 00:13:29,580 --> 00:13:32,700 Unknown: George Stephanopoulos to change public perception. 236 00:13:32,850 --> 00:13:36,090 separately. The New York Times first reported that Biden is 237 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:39,690 weighing whether to continue his reelection bid a claim the White 238 00:13:39,690 --> 00:13:41,490 House quickly rejected. 239 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:45,870 The President is clear eyed, and he is staying in the race clear 240 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:49,350 evidence widely can debate performance last week left his 241 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:53,160 campaign scrambling to stave off mounting concerns about his 242 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,820 mental fitness. Today, Biden speaking to Senate Majority 243 00:13:56,820 --> 00:13:59,400 Leader Chuck Schumer for the first time since the debate, 244 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,850 according to a top White House aide, just one day after he 245 00:14:02,850 --> 00:14:06,120 spoke to House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, he 246 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,480 has done this outreach. He's having these conversations. It 247 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,930 is important to him to do so with just 248 00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:17,100 four months until election day, many Democrats now torn between 249 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:19,560 backing the President or rallying behind it you 250 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,490 candidate, Texas Democratic Representative Lloyd Doggett on 251 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:26,280 CNN becoming the first to break ranks, 252 00:14:26,370 --> 00:14:31,140 I just feel that it's time for him to step aside if we were to 253 00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:36,540 be able to protect what he allowed us to gain and 2020 254 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:37,800 which was a victory for 255 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,630 democracy. Sources, the 256 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:42,480 Vice President Harris cutter vacation short and flew back to 257 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,780 Washington to attend a lunch with the President. And tonight 258 00:14:45,780 --> 00:14:48,900 Biden also meeting privately with Democratic governors as 259 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:51,180 concerns reach a critical point. 260 00:14:51,210 --> 00:14:54,570 Adam Curry: Yeah, so this was interesting that the governors 261 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:57,330 all went to the White House. I think there were eight or nine 262 00:14:57,330 --> 00:14:59,610 of them, only three came out 263 00:14:59,670 --> 00:15:02,430 Unknown: at the one Whitehouse tonight 25 Democratic governors 264 00:15:02,430 --> 00:15:06,720 25 Biden, three of them emerging including Governor Hogan, with a 265 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,640 message of support from the group. 266 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:12,540 I'm here to tell you today, President Joe Biden is in it to 267 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:15,570 win it. The President has always had our best we're gonna have 268 00:15:15,570 --> 00:15:17,040 his back as well. Well, we 269 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,590 saw it in there today was a guy who was the guy that all of us 270 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:21,990 believed in the first time who could beat Donald Trump and did 271 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:28,620 become the Biden administration hastily called the meeting of 272 00:15:28,620 --> 00:15:29,580 democratic by the 273 00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:32,310 Adam Curry: way this this was inside the White House and that 274 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:35,970 you you hear the band playing, and they do this long shot of 275 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:40,530 Biden walking up the aisle. It was so, so sad. They did this 276 00:15:40,530 --> 00:15:41,790 because you know how we walked, right? 277 00:15:43,140 --> 00:15:47,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he walks he walks with a bad gait. He has a 278 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,910 bad gait, he has like a gait of someone with Parkinson's. 279 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Unknown: The Biden administration hastily called 280 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,760 the meeting of Democratic governors as it struggles 281 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,760 hastily damage after the president's performance on the 282 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,480 debate stage last Thursday. Today, he appeared on two radio 283 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,780 shows and explained his problem was that he had a cold, had 284 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:10,110 jetlag and had been overly prepared with statistics. Now 285 00:16:10,110 --> 00:16:12,840 Adam Curry: listen to this. So he did two very obscure one was 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,770 a network but black red to black radio shows because that's, you 287 00:16:16,770 --> 00:16:19,830 know, if we can still trick the black people, we're good to go 288 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:20,370 failing 289 00:16:20,370 --> 00:16:23,010 Unknown: to connect with the American people. CNN aired a 290 00:16:23,010 --> 00:16:25,560 part of one of those interviews tonight and a 291 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,110 bad night. And the fact of the matter is that, you know, it was 292 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:33,150 I screwed up, I made a mistake. 293 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:35,280 Adam Curry: Now listen to this, where he's reading the script, 294 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,550 because no one would would say it this way. But of course, he's 295 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:40,440 reading a script. That's 296 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,470 Unknown: 90 minutes on stage. Look at what I've done in 3.5 297 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:44,190 years, you 298 00:16:44,190 --> 00:16:45,720 Adam Curry: would have said three and a half years, don't 299 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,720 you think instead of 3.5, you could just see the script there 300 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,870 on paper? 3.3. That's 301 00:16:51,870 --> 00:16:55,140 John C Dvorak: a great, that's a great catch. You don't nobody 302 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:58,890 says 3.5 when he's talking about three and a half. If you're just 303 00:16:58,890 --> 00:17:02,970 casually conversing you might write 3.5. Yeah, exactly. Which 304 00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:06,300 is what was there? If you're reading it, you'd read 3.5. But 305 00:17:06,330 --> 00:17:06,930 yes, 306 00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:09,990 Unknown: that's three minutes on stage. Look at what I've done in 307 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:11,340 3.5 years. 308 00:17:11,369 --> 00:17:14,279 Still, Sources tell ABC News The president has privately 309 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:17,399 acknowledged the next few days will be critical, telling an 310 00:17:17,399 --> 00:17:20,339 ally that while he still views himself as the best candidate to 311 00:17:20,339 --> 00:17:24,119 defeat Donald Trump, he's keeping quote, an open mind 312 00:17:24,179 --> 00:17:25,499 about the path forward. 313 00:17:27,089 --> 00:17:30,509 Adam Curry: These people are now being mean, week. Look, we know 314 00:17:30,509 --> 00:17:33,149 the top of his head was off twice, but you don't have to, 315 00:17:33,149 --> 00:17:37,679 like, you know, pointed out to everybody that his mind is open 316 00:17:37,769 --> 00:17:39,119 or 317 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:42,870 Unknown: from, though the official line is defiance, 318 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,630 he is staying in the race. I don't have anything else beyond 319 00:17:45,630 --> 00:17:47,880 that. He is staying. He's staying in the race. 320 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:50,640 John C Dvorak: Where's the word Alliance? This is the official 321 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,150 line who's using the word defiance? 322 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:55,560 Adam Curry: The she didn't say that she 323 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,140 John C Dvorak: just knows. I'm talking about the media. 324 00:17:58,170 --> 00:18:00,450 Adam Curry: I know. That's what I'm saying that the official 325 00:18:00,450 --> 00:18:03,570 line is defiance, and there's no official line that even includes 326 00:18:03,570 --> 00:18:06,780 the word or even sounds like defiance. Defiance 327 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:09,600 John C Dvorak: is one of those negative words a loaded word 328 00:18:09,870 --> 00:18:13,350 that the media loves to use when they're when they're slanting a 329 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:17,280 story. And so different because it means you're you're it means 330 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,410 you're something's wrong with you. You're defining. I'm just 331 00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:25,080 defining, oh, you're not making sense. I that's that's, that's a 332 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,160 great clip. From 333 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,890 Unknown: his press secretary, though the official line is 334 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:29,610 defiance. 335 00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:32,370 Yes, staying in the race. I don't have anything else beyond 336 00:18:32,370 --> 00:18:34,680 that. He is staying he's staying in the race. 337 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:37,410 It's notable that of the 25 Democratic governors who 338 00:18:37,410 --> 00:18:40,950 participated in tonight's meeting, only three emerged 339 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:43,800 publicly back the president the most mentioned Biden 340 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,250 replacements Gavin Newsom of California Gretchen Whitmer of 341 00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:50,820 Michigan, JB Pritzker of Illinois all of them avoided the 342 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:54,270 cameras tonight only two of them releasing written statements 343 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,890 supporting Biden Yeah, 344 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,930 Adam Curry: it was short sharpening the knives that have 345 00:18:57,930 --> 00:18:58,110 no 346 00:18:58,110 --> 00:19:02,010 John C Dvorak: time. I'd like to know what what the Democrats are 347 00:19:02,010 --> 00:19:04,350 thinking to include Pritzker. 348 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,130 Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, I'll get to that. But none none of 349 00:19:08,130 --> 00:19:09,930 these people are ever going to be pressed. No, 350 00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:11,910 John C Dvorak: I know. I'm understanding that that nobody's 351 00:19:11,910 --> 00:19:14,070 going to it's gonna either be Harris or nobody 352 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:16,920 Adam Curry: we need Yes, that's my point. We need a horse race. 353 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,440 We need to get everybody engaged. This is for just for 354 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,110 television ratings, nothing else. Well, 355 00:19:22,140 --> 00:19:24,810 John C Dvorak: how is that getting ratings using Pritzker? 356 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Adam Curry: Because that guy's fun to look at with that big fat 357 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,470 head. They always do the big close up. They like to end. 358 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,420 John C Dvorak: Will brother. 359 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:35,550 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's right. 360 00:19:35,820 --> 00:19:37,830 John C Dvorak: What so that's the main thing, Kelly. 361 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:43,050 Adam Curry: What's Kelly Pritzker. Anyway, the pressures 362 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:46,140 on According to Chris Kristen Welker of NBC Today, 363 00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:48,330 Unknown: this is just an unprecedented moment with the 364 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:51,240 President, frankly, facing more pressure by the Danish 365 00:19:51,660 --> 00:19:54,390 Democrats, as you say they defended President Biden over 366 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:58,680 concerns about his age, but things clearly changed since the 367 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,580 debate. There's just been In a wave of panic within the party 368 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:06,600 based on my conversations, and it is those cracks are starting 369 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,680 to emerge I just saw gave map out. But the question is, will 370 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,140 the pressure be enough for the president to step aside? Here's 371 00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:16,140 what I'm looking for credit. What happens to polling in the 372 00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:20,100 coming days and weeks do donors start to the President? And do 373 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:23,430 more lawmakers start to air their concerns publicly, if a 374 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:26,790 top Democrat, for example, starts to come out and call for 375 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:30,360 the President to drop out of the running? That's a game changer. 376 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:32,070 That's when the floodgates really open? 377 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:34,740 Adam Curry: Oh, that will be a game. Let's see what the Biden 378 00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:38,250 administration Oh, this, this is so good. I mean, pay attention 379 00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:41,190 to this because you're not gonna hear this kind of stuff. Often 380 00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:44,970 in your life. Considering the four year cycle, this is really, 381 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:49,500 particularly from it, you know, this is a Democrat, you know, 382 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:54,630 the media is is Democrat, they are the other all left leaning, 383 00:20:55,020 --> 00:20:59,820 borderline Marxist. They're all authoritarian. They love just, 384 00:20:59,850 --> 00:21:04,200 you know, just getting mad at the right and the far right and 385 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,130 the GOP and the conservatives and the, you know, the fascist 386 00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:11,850 fascist, yes, they're Nazis. This is this is something to 387 00:21:11,850 --> 00:21:15,300 behold this is really a beautiful moment. You know, I 388 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:17,220 hope we have four more years of this 389 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:20,340 Unknown: chasing downs from within his party and new polling 390 00:21:20,340 --> 00:21:23,880 that shows the president falling further behind former President 391 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,560 Trump. Today candidate Biden telling his team, no one is 392 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,620 pushing me out. The President and Vice President held a 393 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:34,950 conference call with campaign staff. Officials say he was 394 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:38,730 direct saying to AIDS, let me say this as clearly as I 395 00:21:38,730 --> 00:21:43,680 possibly can, as simply and straightforward as I can. I am 396 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,740 running I'm run nearly a week after the debate that the White 397 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:49,620 House labels a bad night. The President called key 398 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:52,860 congressional Democrats officials here acknowledging the 399 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:56,040 strain that the last few days have been challenging, with more 400 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,090 troubling signs and new polling done after the debate. President 401 00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:03,450 Biden now trailing former President Trump by six points. 402 00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:06,990 Adam Curry: Have you Let's go on LinkedIn and see if a dream 403 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:11,910 Kaboul update or if her resume is out there yet. She's got to 404 00:22:11,910 --> 00:22:14,070 be she's Hey, Linda Lou. 405 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,710 Unknown: Oba it would be open for World 406 00:22:17,850 --> 00:22:19,350 Adam Curry: entertaining offers. 407 00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:22,710 Unknown: 80% of those surveyed said they consider the president 408 00:22:22,830 --> 00:22:26,430 too old to run again. The White House says the president is now 409 00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:30,150 feeling great. After assigning a cold on debate night, the 410 00:22:30,150 --> 00:22:34,260 President told donors Tuesday evening that he had jetlag to 411 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,370 the debate was 12 days after his return from Europe. The 412 00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:42,180 President said that this is not an excuse, but an explanation. 413 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:42,690 So of 414 00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:45,480 Adam Curry: course, they went to the piggy bank turned it upside 415 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,350 down. Stop. 416 00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:51,480 John C Dvorak: That's another final piece of wordage Oh, yeah, 417 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,640 it's not an excuse. It's an explanation. That is dynamite. 418 00:22:56,700 --> 00:23:00,120 Adam Curry: It's it's quite good. Honey. I did not cheat. 419 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:06,090 I'm not making an excuse. I'm just making an explanation. That 420 00:23:06,090 --> 00:23:07,560 didn't quite come out. Right. No, that 421 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,310 John C Dvorak: was no good. No, there 422 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:09,510 Adam Curry: was no good anyway, 423 00:23:09,540 --> 00:23:11,610 John C Dvorak: but you could structure it that way. Yeah. 424 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:16,290 Adam Curry: So they broke the piggy bank took out the last 425 00:23:16,290 --> 00:23:19,740 pennies. Let's do one more add everybody we can convince them 426 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,920 Unknown: to see Trump last night. I mean it sincerely and 427 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,870 most lies told him the single debate. The great economy 428 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:36,930 created he lied about the pandemic he bucks his biggest 429 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:40,440 lie. He lied about how he had nothing to do with the 430 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,660 insurrection in January. Solid our own eyes. We're gonna walk 431 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:46,860 down to the 432 00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:48,900 Capitol, and I'll be there with you. 433 00:23:49,230 --> 00:23:53,550 And Christoph police attack. The Capitol being ransacked France 434 00:23:53,550 --> 00:23:59,460 is not a single thing to stop at nothing. I know I'm not a young 435 00:23:59,460 --> 00:24:07,560 man. I know how to do this job. I know I know how to tell the 436 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,900 truth. I know like millions of Americans know when you get 437 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:20,070 knocked down you get back on Joe Biden to this message your 438 00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:22,230 Adam Curry: that's really amazing piece of editing that 439 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:24,750 ending there. You could just put Hitler in there. 440 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:28,650 Unknown: I know how to tell 441 00:24:33,810 --> 00:24:40,410 you get knocked down you get on Joe Biden approve this message. 442 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,290 Adam Curry: You know, everything that really could have could 443 00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:47,130 have been a Hitler Hitler had Yeah. So here's I just want 444 00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:51,210 everybody to hear a big loser if you want to hear a loser. Now a 445 00:24:51,210 --> 00:24:55,560 guy who granted is trying to be do the right thing. But he 446 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,310 didn't read the tea leaves. This is the biggest loser of the 447 00:24:59,310 --> 00:25:02,670 year. This is the governor of Colorado, some 448 00:25:02,670 --> 00:25:05,970 Unknown: polls out Governor this week so that 70% of Americans 449 00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:09,450 that were still concerned about his age and they say people like 450 00:25:09,450 --> 00:25:12,300 you, Governor polis will say as sharp as ever. There's no 451 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:17,100 issues, but they have eyes. They have ears. They see him stumbles 452 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,520 during a speech. They listen to him mispronounce words from time 453 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,790 to time. What do you say to that voter? Well, I hear what 454 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:26,970 Governor Poulos is saying, but I also can see and hear myself. 455 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,210 First 456 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:30,000 of all, I don't know if many American people know what the 457 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,890 President was, he was very open about that. He just had a 458 00:25:31,890 --> 00:25:35,730 stuttering problem since he was a young man. So I mean, if you 459 00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:40,560 look at him talking during his Senate career decades ago, no. 460 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:44,550 Adam Curry: Let's go back to 2014 Biden, let's see if he was 461 00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:45,510 stuttering. Then 462 00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:48,090 Unknown: I aspire for one of my grandchildren become wealthy. So 463 00:25:48,090 --> 00:25:50,250 when they put me in a home, I get a window with a view, you 464 00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:58,230 know, right now. As I, as I pointed out, it was 465 00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:04,680 embarrassing. Bernie Sanders net worth is more than mine. I have 466 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,810 less money than a socialist. I don't know what the hell 467 00:26:06,810 --> 00:26:12,330 happened. I've been doing this for 44 years. I mean, you think 468 00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:14,190 I'm kidding. I'm not kidding. Unfortunately. 469 00:26:14,250 --> 00:26:16,710 Adam Curry: No, he had no stutter problem, though. 470 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,480 John C Dvorak: The thing is, 471 00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:22,620 Unknown: he's always had issues around articulation. 472 00:26:24,810 --> 00:26:27,780 John C Dvorak: No, we just heard on this show over the last 17 473 00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:32,790 years we have done because it started during our show and he 474 00:26:32,790 --> 00:26:36,840 started to sound drunk. Yeah. And we even had a theme for it 475 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,470 because we play a Biden clip when he was vice president in an 476 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:46,050 onward called drunk or not drunk specifically for his clips. Yes. 477 00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:47,640 Adam Curry: Onward part of 478 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,290 Unknown: his personal narrative that he talks about how we 479 00:26:49,290 --> 00:26:52,770 overcame speech disability to become a leader speech 480 00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:56,580 disability is today I also think it isn't it can't really be an 481 00:26:56,580 --> 00:27:00,360 election issue when the likely nominee on the other side is 482 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,120 basically just as old and probably in worse health worse. 483 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:08,130 So how can this be an election issue when the comparable 484 00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:11,820 candidate the likely nominee of the Republican Party, not only 485 00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:15,540 is of the same age but also is obese is not as healthy doesn't 486 00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:16,380 exercise as much 487 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:19,500 Adam Curry: All right, loser Oh, this 488 00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:22,260 John C Dvorak: guy is never wasn't read in know this. I'm 489 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:25,740 Adam Curry: saying he's a loser. He's out. He's not even going to 490 00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:28,920 be the governor of Colorado for long as there's no way wrong 491 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,780 script palp. So now we get into the the pivot here that we all 492 00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:37,950 have heard. We need to start it off with Van Jones on CNN, Van 493 00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:43,650 Jones, not a dummy. You know, Bezos gave him $100 million to 494 00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:48,120 give away as he saw fit for his for his nonprofit. So I'm sure 495 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,520 some of that went to the campaign. But you know, where's 496 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,390 he going to put the money now? He even drops a little k word in 497 00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:55,350 here. Like, I 498 00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:57,750 Unknown: just gotta be honest. I mean, please, everybody comes 499 00:27:57,750 --> 00:28:01,050 on. Well, that's refreshing. Van be honest, for once. Look, I 500 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:03,960 just got to be honest. I mean, everybody comes on the air and 501 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,510 says all this great stuff. But behind the scenes, it's full 502 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:11,910 scale panic. People are passing around legal memos, PDFs, are 503 00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:14,490 flying back and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out 504 00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:18,450 what are the options? How can you replace Biden? How do you 505 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:21,030 get them to do it in a way where he feels respected as he should 506 00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:24,930 be respected? Who should Kamala Harris's vice president be the 507 00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:28,230 conversation on air and the conversation off? Oh, 508 00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:28,260 I 509 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:31,410 Adam Curry: mean, he just dropped that in like a lead 510 00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:36,030 balloon. He's like, Yeah, we got PDS flying back and forth on 511 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:39,450 WhatsApp. We got legal briefs who should come was vice 512 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:41,670 president and be Hello van here 513 00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:44,580 Unknown: are completely different. And so I same thing 514 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:47,070 with you saw with with the Trump situation where people would 515 00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:49,590 come on here and defend Trump, and then you talk to people and 516 00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:52,290 then we got a crazy candidate. We don't have a crazy candidate. 517 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,080 We have a great candidate, we have a beautiful man, we have 518 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,540 someone who loves this country, we have someone who has given 519 00:28:57,540 --> 00:29:01,470 his all I mean, it's all to the last drop for this country, but 520 00:29:01,470 --> 00:29:04,980 he may not be able to get across the finish line and mature party 521 00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:07,500 has to take that into account and that is what's happening. 522 00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:12,330 And so look, I understand people want to you know, defend them 523 00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:14,400 and protect them and give him their space and the dignity to 524 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,190 make his own choice. But there is a big conversation happening 525 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:19,530 right now about how this happens not whether 526 00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:22,290 Adam Curry: you know it's actually kind of interesting he 527 00:29:22,290 --> 00:29:26,010 says something in here that it could have been code is not but 528 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:27,330 I want to explain it let me see if his 529 00:29:27,690 --> 00:29:30,870 Unknown: passing around legal memos, PDS with flying back and 530 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:31,680 forth on I didn't 531 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,150 Adam Curry: say ride nevermind. So that's Van Jones. Basically 532 00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:38,580 say it's going to be comme la we're looking at all the legal 533 00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:42,270 ramifications, all different angles as a law. Van Jones has 534 00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,090 money so it's a big man on campus. Now if you really want 535 00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:48,300 to know what's going to happen. We need to go to the source to 536 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:53,190 the real one of the people with the real big money which makes 537 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:56,250 it not not the biggest but probably the most visible who 538 00:29:56,250 --> 00:30:02,070 doesn't speak much and he was at the Aspen Ideas festival this is 539 00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:06,840 the this is the fest out there where all the nerds go and hang 540 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,200 out. I mean the rich ones are billionaires. Yeah, we're gonna 541 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,290 change the world with AI and technology. And I'm sure that 542 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:16,680 that's where a lot of these PDF files were flying around. 543 00:30:16,890 --> 00:30:19,170 John C Dvorak: Yeah What was that Pete? Why does he have to 544 00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:20,400 use PDF? 545 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,130 Adam Curry: Well that in Swayze say that 546 00:30:23,130 --> 00:30:25,140 John C Dvorak: why did you say files or flood you know, 547 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:26,160 documents or flood 548 00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:32,160 Adam Curry: doesn't make me say this in in slang on social 549 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:38,100 media. Now he didn't say it he said PDFs if you see PDF files 550 00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:42,210 that is actually code for PDF files, PDF files so you because 551 00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:44,160 you know you don't want to get to the platform so 552 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,370 John C Dvorak: you use code what you didn't know that did you? I 553 00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:49,320 did not you got me on now mo taught 554 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,750 Adam Curry: me that when PDF files to people say to PDF 555 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:57,480 files. So for black Van Jones, he didn't say PDF file. So I 556 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,820 don't think it was any any coded messages. They're probably 557 00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:04,080 actually sending legal memos around because listen to this, 558 00:31:04,650 --> 00:31:09,510 Ari Emanuel, of course brother of ROM but ROM is, you know, 559 00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:13,590 he's Ambassador somewhere now. But Ari, Ari, I mean, he is a 560 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:19,080 big man on campus. Ari controls a lot. He's in charge of 561 00:31:20,730 --> 00:31:23,670 Hollywood. He's He's, well, yeah, he and Katzenberg are 562 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:27,090 really in charge of Hollywood. So they control and there's a 563 00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:30,210 lot of money attracted to Hollywood, I like to hang out 564 00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:34,590 with a star. So Ari is going to lay it out. And he's very clear. 565 00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:39,420 And I think this is the true deconstruction of what it is 566 00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:42,990 what's going on, and where it's headed. Without a doubt. 567 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,750 Unknown: We're looking at a man who's saying the other guy's a 568 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:48,870 liar. And he's telling us Malarkey, his people are telling 569 00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:52,710 us Malarkey, but we're in a very bad problem. He is not the 570 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:56,250 candidate anymore. I mean, if you all remember this illegal 571 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:59,400 issue, now, he was gonna get kicked off the ballot. And in 572 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Ohio, they elected him the candidate so you no longer can 573 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:10,260 remove him in three swing states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, 574 00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:14,430 and Michigan, there's only one Democratic Congress, Michigan, 575 00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:18,330 they have to vote to remove him. I don't believe the Republican 576 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:22,440 Party and in Pennsylvania, and in in Wisconsin, they're gonna 577 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,910 do that. Okay. And if they do it, then Kamala Harris, you we 578 00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:31,260 don't have there's, this is legal. So lawyers gonna have to 579 00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:33,330 look at this and everybody says, we'll get rid of them and 580 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:37,650 brokered convention. No. Now maybe the delicate there's some 581 00:32:37,650 --> 00:32:41,070 question whether the delegates can do something. And I promised 582 00:32:41,070 --> 00:32:47,640 myself I wasn't gonna swear. So we're in a, this a pickle. You 583 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,400 know, the lifeblood too. And I have a brother who's a 584 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,270 politician. He's an ambassador, as it said, The lifeblood to a 585 00:32:54,270 --> 00:32:58,560 campaign. In politics. The lifeblood is money. And maybe 586 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,820 the only way this gets with smart lawyers looking at it is 587 00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:04,860 if the money starts drying up, and I've talked, I mean, I'm 588 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:06,750 assuming all of you've gotten a lot of calls, I've gotten a lot 589 00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:09,540 of calls, we've all sat there it was who was mad, I was gonna say 590 00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:15,000 what happens now you know, it but if this is, as Biden says, 591 00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:18,990 the fight for our democracy, and he talks about the soldiers, 592 00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:24,360 man, he he he gave us a bunch of malarkey. And I'm really pissed. 593 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,370 Right, we all should be really present. 594 00:33:26,790 --> 00:33:29,250 And what does this do to Jeffrey Katzenberg, fundraising? Well, 595 00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:29,550 you know, 596 00:33:29,730 --> 00:33:31,800 Jeffrey, I mean, you're gonna know in the next couple of 597 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,900 you're gonna see polling and see that in the next couple of 598 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:37,470 weeks, if the money comes in, I talked to a bunch of big donors, 599 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:40,950 and they're moving all their money to Congress and the 600 00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:45,300 Senate. I mean, I cannot believe we're in this situation. Well as 601 00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:49,290 one of the great disruptors in your career. I mean, do we have 602 00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:52,110 to sit by and sleep with this legal issue? Yeah, you're 603 00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:56,970 you're, you're not in. I'm gonna resign, you know, unless the 604 00:33:56,970 --> 00:33:59,490 lawyers tell you something else. And maybe there's some wiggle 605 00:33:59,490 --> 00:34:03,120 room. I haven't seen it. And I'm not a lawyer. We're in flux 606 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,450 city. 607 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,110 Adam Curry: There you go. So that's clear for everybody. They 608 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:11,400 can't get out of it. Kamala is going to be the candidate if and 609 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,280 when Joe withdraws, drops out drops dead. And I think you and 610 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,760 I have seen Wow, what a coincidence having that Vogue 611 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,470 article come out. The day after the debate or two days after the 612 00:34:25,470 --> 00:34:29,220 debate with that Jill Biden on the cover, they never had 613 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:33,480 Melania on the cover, by the way, an actual an actual, an 614 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,320 actual supermodel. Now I don't have her on the cover. And she's 615 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,170 talking about y'all, you want to see what powers like powers like 616 00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:43,860 we can step off a plane and you can whisk around town through 617 00:34:43,860 --> 00:34:48,330 that red lights is awesome. You know, $10,000 dress now. 618 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,820 Fantastic, Gil, so they're not going to give up. That doesn't 619 00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:57,660 seem like it but something will give because there's just too 620 00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:01,950 much pressure here Wall Street's take. 621 00:35:02,340 --> 00:35:04,560 Unknown: Do you think people are under estimating Kamala Harris? 622 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:05,550 It's almost become. 623 00:35:08,429 --> 00:35:12,419 Oh, absolutely. Look, you know, three advantages. One should be 624 00:35:12,419 --> 00:35:15,149 totally underestimated in politics having low expectations 625 00:35:15,149 --> 00:35:16,739 is one of the greatest advantages you could have. 626 00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:20,099 Secondly, she gets all the Biden Harris money, which is not able 627 00:35:20,099 --> 00:35:23,219 to be transferred to any other candidate. So she gets the war 628 00:35:23,219 --> 00:35:25,829 chest, she'll be very well funded. Third, look at her 629 00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:29,489 approval rating with Democrats. 84%. She's much more popular 630 00:35:29,489 --> 00:35:31,949 within the President with young voters. She's very popular with 631 00:35:31,949 --> 00:35:36,449 black voters, and she'll help drive women turnout by women. I 632 00:35:36,449 --> 00:35:38,159 think people will totally underestimate the vice 633 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:38,669 president. I 634 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,710 John C Dvorak: put my money on her. Yeah, 635 00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:43,830 Adam Curry: put my money on her. So of course camo 636 00:35:44,850 --> 00:35:47,850 John C Dvorak: like worse than a bad novel. This is great that 637 00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:52,230 Kamala Harris, the blowjob artists from the Bay Area has 638 00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:55,530 managed to get all the way to the presidency. This is like 639 00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:59,880 that, that the novel by Jerzy Kaczynski, I think is his last 640 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,750 name. I can't remember anymore. Being there, which became a 641 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:08,130 movie of about Chauncey Gardiner, who was a gardener 642 00:36:08,610 --> 00:36:12,720 who, who's you? I don't know if you remember that story. But 643 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,330 this is what this looks like, to me, some woman who was just kind 644 00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:22,110 of a character, to say the least, and just all of a sudden 645 00:36:22,110 --> 00:36:24,540 she's president of the United States. Really? I don't think 646 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:24,690 so. 647 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:25,950 Adam Curry: How does that movie end? 648 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:28,800 John C Dvorak: I don't remember how it ends. 649 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:31,230 Adam Curry: What is Brunetti doing? Is he is he directing 650 00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:35,970 this? Is he producing this rod? It's totally possible. He 651 00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:37,020 John C Dvorak: wishes Yeah. 652 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,010 Adam Curry: So because Kamala has to step up now. And she's 653 00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:43,920 got to make sure look, the one thing well, no, she's black. 654 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,790 She's black. She's the first black, Vice President first 655 00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:54,360 black female vice president. Of course, she's as black as Barack 656 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,230 Obama was black when you're talking about black America, his 657 00:36:58,230 --> 00:37:03,870 brown skin, but She's Jamaican. She's Canadian. And she's an 658 00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:06,690 Indian. Brahman, Brahman. Oh, 659 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,710 John C Dvorak: she's a Brahmin. Yeah. 660 00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:11,700 Adam Curry: So what do you do? We go talk black on the BT 661 00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:14,850 awards. You get on with your girlfriend, your girlfriend? 662 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:17,250 Yeah, you know, with the terace. So 663 00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:21,570 Unknown: what's on your mind? Oh, madam VP here is I'm worried 664 00:37:21,570 --> 00:37:22,620 about the election. 665 00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:26,310 Adam Curry: Have you seen this, this particular clip in this? So 666 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:29,040 it's one of those things they roll in on the BT awards, and 667 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,660 Taraji is in her in her dressing room. And she's on FaceTime with 668 00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:39,300 Madame VP. And she's all madam VP. I'm so worried and Madam VP 669 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:42,840 is in her office with some important looking paper, you 670 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,140 know, in a pan, one of these folders like she's about to sign 671 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:49,260 some important legislation. And she's taking a break here taking 672 00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:52,650 a break to talk to her, her pal, Taraji. It's Raj is an actress 673 00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:53,760 women's reproductive 674 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,150 Unknown: rights on the line. Our Supreme Court is on the line. 675 00:37:57,180 --> 00:38:00,600 Our basic freedoms are being tested. Madam VP, 676 00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:03,840 I know you've been traveling cross country. What are you 677 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,600 hearing? Yeah, girl, I'm out here in the streets. And you got 678 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:06,990 girl. 679 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:09,690 Adam Curry: I'm out here. I'm out here in the streets. I'm out 680 00:38:09,690 --> 00:38:12,570 here in the streets, girl. That's right. I'm hearing. 681 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,700 Unknown: Yeah, girl. I'm out here in these streets. And let 682 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,490 me tell you, you're right. terace. There is so much at 683 00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:21,300 stake in this moment. The majority of us believe in 684 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:26,430 freedom and equality. But these extremist as they say they're 685 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:27,690 not like us as 686 00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:30,570 Adam Curry: they say they're not like us, John, how you talk now. 687 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,460 They're not like us. This is hot sauce. That 688 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:39,390 John C Dvorak: nasal, condescending nasal. She's got a 689 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:43,320 screwy voice. This does not appeal to anybody. It's it's 690 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,360 insincere. It's super nasally it's actually somebody defined 691 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:55,650 it as a Berkeley accent. And it's just annoying when when she 692 00:38:55,650 --> 00:39:00,210 ran for president against the field. She's one of the first to 693 00:39:00,210 --> 00:39:04,890 drop out because no Democrats liked her at all. But now all of 694 00:39:04,890 --> 00:39:07,980 a sudden according to the clip, you just play a couple clips ago 695 00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:13,800 82% Of all the Democrats love her love her pull these now. 696 00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:15,660 Adam Curry: Okay, well, we'll get to some analysis in a 697 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:20,220 moment. I just want to play the rest of this code switch. This 698 00:39:20,250 --> 00:39:23,640 isn't I'm doing a show with Moe pretty soon we got if we have 699 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,170 to, we have to get a show out. Because this, you know to say 700 00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:32,880 this street talk all of a sudden now she's doing all I can talk. 701 00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:36,330 I can talk like black America does talk like this. That's 702 00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:39,240 fine. But you not that lady. But 703 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,870 Unknown: these extremist as they say they're not like us. They 704 00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:46,590 don't lie they not there's a full on, on our fundamental 705 00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:50,730 freedoms, the freedom to vote. Yeah, the freedom to love who 706 00:39:50,730 --> 00:39:53,910 you love the freedom to be safe from gun violence. The freedom 707 00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:54,570 for a woman 708 00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:57,120 Adam Curry: the freedom to be safe from gun violence is just 709 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,020 the best freedom the founders ever came up with all I declare 710 00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:04,560 we shall be free from gun violence after we kick the 711 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,700 British his butt to 712 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:08,100 Unknown: make decisions about her own body not having a 713 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,570 government tell her what to do, 714 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,350 John C Dvorak: like get a shot. Do you mean like a VAX mandate? 715 00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:15,840 Yep away PRI Plan B 716 00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:17,820 Adam Curry: oh wait now they've got the piece here see they've 717 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:20,370 got the four Ps you gotta check it out and plan 718 00:40:20,430 --> 00:40:22,740 Unknown: it not having a government. We go 719 00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:25,200 John C Dvorak: we got laid out here trying to take away PRI 720 00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:27,510 plan B plan B Planned Parenthood 721 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,350 Adam Curry: pistols so we take away pride Plan B. Planned 722 00:40:34,350 --> 00:40:38,220 Parenthood but they protect them pistols a lot of peas in there. 723 00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:39,690 If you ask 724 00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:43,170 Unknown: me a question the wrong bees. They want to turn back the 725 00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:47,580 clock on our hard fought progress. Now I Know Why the 726 00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:52,110 Caged Bird Sings. Well, what can we do? We will do what 727 00:40:52,110 --> 00:40:55,740 we have always done. Well, we're gonna we're gonna cheat fight 728 00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:59,760 for our freedoms. But here's the thing we cannot fight alone. We 729 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,060 need to get our families our friends co workers cousins play 730 00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:06,480 cousins, aunties and uncles. Get all of them in a registered vote 731 00:41:06,510 --> 00:41:07,050 again, 732 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,380 Adam Curry: aunties and uncles play cousins and play cousins. 733 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,530 It's just so so 734 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,660 John C Dvorak: I can't wait to talk to Mozart pandering it's 735 00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:20,220 called pandering and it's very identifiable. Anyone who listens 736 00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:24,270 to stuff like this can recognize it I don't have to be an idiot 737 00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:24,870 not to 738 00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:27,900 Adam Curry: I talked to moe for hours on end doing the podcast I 739 00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:32,460 don't start talking like yo mo like then like that man like I 740 00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:37,950 don't talk like that now if you want to hear someone who's 741 00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:39,420 really unhinged I just 742 00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:43,050 John C Dvorak: I love I love the collected a good color. Yeah, 743 00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:43,350 thank 744 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,380 Adam Curry: you. Well, I had help the Jones brothers are in 745 00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:51,000 there as well. Here's Joy read Joy read on the street now 746 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,960 because you know she didn't have she seems to be on MSNBC 14 747 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,450 hours a day but it wasn't enough. No, we've got to do a 748 00:41:57,450 --> 00:41:59,430 little little we got to do a live 749 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,030 Unknown: y'all just tell me who the nominee is gonna be. Let me 750 00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:06,240 know when you guys are finished fighting amongst yourselves. Who 751 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,730 I got to vote for in November to keep Hitler out the White House. 752 00:42:08,730 --> 00:42:12,330 That's all I want to know. For to keep Hitler out the White 753 00:42:12,330 --> 00:42:16,620 House. Y'all do your thing. Play in traffic all you want in front 754 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,110 of these Republicans acting a fool in front of these people 755 00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:22,380 instead of privately declaring your stuff but don't text me no 756 00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:26,130 more. Because I'm not taking the more of the six. Just let me 757 00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:28,410 know when you guys are finished figuring it out Democrats 758 00:42:28,410 --> 00:42:30,420 because I know y'all the freakout people go ahead and 759 00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:33,570 freak out. Have your conversation. And then let me 760 00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:36,900 know who I gotta vote for to keep Hitler out the White House. 761 00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:40,320 That's it. I'm done. Oh, and by the way, if it's Biden in a 762 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,620 coma, I'm a vote for by Finnick coma. I don't even really 763 00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:47,160 particularly like the guy. Lot his policy don't like he's not 764 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,730 Donald Trump, right? Yeah, Hitler White House, we keeping 765 00:42:50,730 --> 00:42:53,640 them out keeping project 2025 out. That's all I care about up 766 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,740 and down the ballot from the rooter to the tooter school 767 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:58,410 board, to White House and everything in between governors, 768 00:42:58,530 --> 00:43:01,560 members of Congress, I'm just gonna vote all the way down to 769 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,130 keep these people out. The project. 2025 thing is the whole 770 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:08,490 Republican Party at this point. It's not about Biden, it is not 771 00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:10,680 about him. It's above me now. There's a Best Western next 772 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:16,470 door. It is about keeping Donald Trump and his project 2025 773 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:19,290 friends out of power. Now, 774 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,500 Adam Curry: I thought this clip was interesting because that is 775 00:43:22,890 --> 00:43:26,970 the entire mission of the Democrat party. You will not 776 00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:31,920 hear anyone say, hey, you know, we've really we've got a weak 777 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,220 economy. It looks strong, but people are hungry. We have 778 00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:38,220 problems with inflation, you know, invidious propping up the 779 00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:42,630 whole stock market. We have two wars going on Israel's about to 780 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:46,290 pick a fight with Hezbollah. You know, when does it go to Iraq? 781 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:51,330 No, none of that these people don't care about America at all. 782 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:54,600 All they care about is rooter to the tooter all they care about 783 00:43:54,810 --> 00:43:59,790 is not getting Trump in that Trump does not become president. 784 00:43:59,790 --> 00:44:03,390 That's all they care about. And the new talking point is back to 785 00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:07,530 that tired old project 2025 which is from the Heritage 786 00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:11,640 Foundation. We went through it it's not all that crazy. It's 787 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,460 not like you know we're going to be lynching people. 788 00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:18,900 John C Dvorak: Let's stop for a second and take and take stock 789 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,350 reflect on this joy reads she's on tick tock doing these things. 790 00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:24,840 Yeah, this is ruining her brand. 791 00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:26,160 Adam Curry: What brand 792 00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:32,250 John C Dvorak: she has her brand is on CNN or MSNBC never 793 00:44:32,250 --> 00:44:36,690 remember which of the two was same thing. And she's scripted. 794 00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:42,300 She's made up to the 10s she's, you know, looks good on that 795 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:46,920 show. She's got a good script to read and she's got a pitch 796 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,140 that's not bad. For that side of the of the argument. She comes 797 00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:55,890 on here and she's got no makeup on. She's bald as a billiard. 798 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,250 She's ugly. She's an ugly, ugly well woman and she's lecturing 799 00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:06,480 you, she's in a condescending manner that they would never 800 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,020 allow on television. They would. Her producers would call her out 801 00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:12,660 for that. She's condescending enough on television, but not 802 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:16,800 like these tick tock videos. And it's annoying, and I think 803 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,440 they're gonna I think she's gonna end up losing your job. 804 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,810 Oh, but his thing I've ever seen anybody do is these videos, I 805 00:45:24,810 --> 00:45:28,140 will crush you, by the way, way too close to the camera, just 806 00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:32,520 like holy shit. scare the crap out of kids. It's just terrible, 807 00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:33,120 terrible. 808 00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:36,930 Adam Curry: Well, we don't want that to happen, John, because we 809 00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,650 still have four more years to go. We need Joy read for the 810 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,540 comedic element of the show. But the point being that the talking 811 00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:53,070 point is we don't want Trump in. And with the evil project 2025 812 00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:58,020 which is it's just not all that evil. It's like, okay, so 813 00:45:58,020 --> 00:46:03,720 they're pro life. Ah, okay. Gee, how incredibly evil. It's not 814 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,980 all that evil is that, you know, it's a plan for America. And, 815 00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:09,270 you know, we've discussed 816 00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:12,360 John C Dvorak: I mean, anything, this is just another one of 817 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,080 those things. It's like, I know, Contract with America. It's just 818 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,230 a variation of that, which was done by Newt Gingrich back. 819 00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:21,750 Exactly, exactly. In the olden days. Yeah. 820 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:25,410 Adam Curry: But you know, I think because it's project 2025 821 00:46:25,410 --> 00:46:30,180 It's somehow it's contrasting the 1619 project that hoax, 822 00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:33,900 which completely rewrote American history. Like we're 823 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:38,010 just slave owners, someone posted today it was a retweet on 824 00:46:38,010 --> 00:46:42,000 podcast index dot social, which I I tried to keep politics out 825 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,150 of that group actually just blocked the person who, who was 826 00:46:45,150 --> 00:46:48,690 retweeted and went away from the timeline. It was like you know, 827 00:46:48,690 --> 00:46:54,510 we declare these truths to be self evident. unalienable, 828 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:58,920 inalienable rights. Now, excuse me while I go and Rate My slave 829 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,730 it's like, what are you people doing? The it's disgusting. It 830 00:47:05,730 --> 00:47:09,720 really is. It's It pisses me off on people that anyway, there's 831 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:13,140 only one thing that could spoil the soil, even though you and I 832 00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:18,570 and many people who have written us all agree that the evidence 833 00:47:18,570 --> 00:47:22,230 for Biden's ailment is more Parkinson's than anything 834 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,040 John C Dvorak: else which I can to back and forth with a number 835 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,220 of people because he doesn't have the tremors. And I don't 836 00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:33,690 have incorrect that it's not necessarily tremors you how you 837 00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:38,760 not all Parkinson's results in tremors. Right but that gait in 838 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,240 particular as Parkinson's is part and the dementia. 839 00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:49,140 Adam Curry: So, but the in the uninformed electorate people say 840 00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:54,120 oh, he's got Alzheimer's. So let's just say that's what 841 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,150 people believe it doesn't matter if they're correct or not. This 842 00:47:57,150 --> 00:48:00,240 could be the saving grace. People living with Alzheimer's 843 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,930 have a new medication option, the FDA approved monoclonal 844 00:48:03,930 --> 00:48:07,230 antibody designed to slow the early stages of the disease by 845 00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:10,620 helping remove plaque in the brain. The drug will be sold 846 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:14,820 under the name kazoo law, about 7 million Americans 65 years and 847 00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:18,600 older live with Alzheimer's. Okay, Eli Lilly be free. 848 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,820 John C Dvorak: I have I have a better version of that. 849 00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:23,790 Adam Curry: Can I just say Can I just say one thing about this? 850 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,290 Eli Lilly Hello, you need to talk to the curry Devorah 851 00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:33,630 consulting group about your name. So the name is terrible. 852 00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:36,450 It should be called Joe's Empik obviously 853 00:48:39,570 --> 00:48:43,590 John C Dvorak: for a curry or grade ofour ag joke consultants. 854 00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:48,510 Now, they let that report is not as good as the anti D one which 855 00:48:48,510 --> 00:48:51,900 is the Alzheimer's drug because there's a little phrase in there 856 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,140 that they left in by having the doctor come on and talk about 857 00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:57,990 it. And that phrase just floored me. On 858 00:48:57,990 --> 00:49:00,480 Unknown: Tuesday the Food and Drug Administration approved Eli 859 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,800 Lilly's Alzheimer's medication, the non mob the no BAP the new 860 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,800 treatment is designed to slow the progression of early stages 861 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,010 of Alzheimer's disease. Neurologist Richard Isaacson 862 00:49:11,010 --> 00:49:12,990 says this is good news. 863 00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:16,410 Good news is drug shows us is that the earlier we're into we 864 00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:18,990 intervene, the better the patient will do. We can have 865 00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:22,110 slowing by 35% that buys a lot of time and that's very 866 00:49:22,110 --> 00:49:22,590 exciting. 867 00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:25,140 The drug will also be used to treat patients with mild 868 00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:27,960 cognitive impairment and the mild dementia stage of 869 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,800 Alzheimer's disease. And June a panel of independent FDA 870 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,450 advisors agreed do not by nobody was safe and effective. It will 871 00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:42,240 be sold under the name of Kiss and constant $195 a vial before 872 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,080 insurance you're 873 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,660 John C Dvorak: dead, safe and effective 874 00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:51,240 Adam Curry: and effective. To wrap this segment up, someone 875 00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:55,050 alerted me to or pointed this little segment out from our 876 00:49:55,050 --> 00:50:04,680 show. This is from Episode What was it 1446 do when it was this 877 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:12,720 this is let me see, I think it's April, April 28 2022. I'm going 878 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,380 to double down on this we have about five more months until the 879 00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:19,410 election, a lot can happen a lot can happen in the stock market, 880 00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:23,940 a lot can happen in the economy, a lot can happen. on the global 881 00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:26,760 stage with wars, I'm particularly looking at what's 882 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,160 happening now with Hezbollah, you know, we killed one of their 883 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,730 top guys, that's never, that's never something people take 884 00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:36,300 lightly. Let's go back for a second and listen to what my 885 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,180 prediction was. And I'm gonna make a prediction. It'll be very 886 00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:44,310 similar to my prediction that I made in 2015. By the time 2024 887 00:50:44,310 --> 00:50:50,190 rolls around, it is my belief and my sincere belief. Or I 888 00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:54,480 could say, I do believe that people, even people on the left 889 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:59,700 will be begging for Trump. There'll be begging for him to 890 00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:03,570 come back and fix it. That's my prediction. You write it down. 891 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,580 John C Dvorak: That's a pretty wild one. 892 00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:09,570 Adam Curry: I'm doubling down on it. And I 893 00:51:09,570 --> 00:51:11,760 John C Dvorak: don't see anybody begging him. But yeah, I think 894 00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:14,820 getting him in there's no doubt about that. Now, I want to make 895 00:51:14,850 --> 00:51:19,260 a comment. I have to bring in something Mimi brought up about 896 00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:24,720 Biden, and that is, and she has two points she made one is about 897 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:30,090 the dogs is dogs. And tusks. Being kennel owners we know 898 00:51:30,090 --> 00:51:34,230 about dog behavior. He had two dogs, two German shepherds that 899 00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:37,800 bit Secret Service guys in there a bite multiple times, multiple 900 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,460 times, multiple biters. She says that if you're in a household 901 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:45,030 where you're protecting somebody because he's sick that Biden kit 902 00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:47,910 you know, you're overdoing it, it creates an anxiety in the 903 00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:51,990 room that the dogs sense and they pick up on and they become 904 00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:57,900 extremely protective. Oh, biting people that just random people 905 00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,300 are supposed to be young, especially 906 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:03,210 Adam Curry: people who are close to the President trying to do 907 00:52:03,210 --> 00:52:05,760 their secret service duty. So 908 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,400 John C Dvorak: that is an interesting point I liked and 909 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,460 but the other one, which was Siccar point and it's more of a 910 00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:15,630 Unknown: and this more women can go on like me me. Yes, 911 00:52:15,690 --> 00:52:19,560 John C Dvorak: is that we know if we really looked back on a 912 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:25,680 Joe Biden, throughout his career was a prick. He would shoot 913 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,850 people out, he put poke him in the chest, he was in a hole. We 914 00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:33,150 know this with that poor woman who accused him of sexual 915 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:37,380 assault. And as she had to move to Russia, who was on the staff. 916 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,270 He has to be that according to her, he has to be that way all 917 00:52:42,270 --> 00:52:46,620 the time. He know that words was probably a mean spirited, a 918 00:52:46,650 --> 00:52:52,440 whole husband that Jill married and stayed with and put up with 919 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:57,750 a lot of crap. It's an she's now on the she has the upper hand 920 00:52:57,750 --> 00:53:01,770 now. And she can torment and torture him by making him run 921 00:53:01,770 --> 00:53:06,900 more to leave letting him get humiliated constantly. As nurse, 922 00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:12,870 she's like a nurse ratchet. And she's just turned into this a 923 00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:17,340 woman who can now is not the shoes on the other foot. I'm the 924 00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:22,560 boss now. And and she wants to she loves it. Because it's after 925 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,950 all these years of probable abuse. And I would guess that 926 00:53:26,850 --> 00:53:29,760 she can now do the abusing and she 927 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,850 Adam Curry: knows where all the money is. She's got the keys to 928 00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:35,400 the houses and the islands and everything. 929 00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:40,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's an easy street and keep the jet. 930 00:53:41,010 --> 00:53:43,530 She's definitely the one behind pushing him. You got to run 931 00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:45,690 again. Joe. Don't let him push it down. He 932 00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:49,530 Adam Curry: can get a net jets card. No problem. Speaking of 933 00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:53,460 dogs, the knives are out for Bobby the opp just to make sure 934 00:53:53,460 --> 00:53:57,180 he doesn't try to slip in Newsweek reporting. There's a 935 00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:02,340 picture and they show a picture of RFK Jr. Eating a dog. Yeah, 936 00:54:02,370 --> 00:54:04,950 John C Dvorak: he discussed this on one of the podcasts. He was 937 00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:05,550 always it was a 938 00:54:05,550 --> 00:54:09,060 Adam Curry: cabrito it was a goat. Yeah, it was a goat and he 939 00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:11,220 wasn't actually eating it was just holding up the carcass 940 00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:13,050 which is you know, that's the South American thing 941 00:54:13,170 --> 00:54:16,860 John C Dvorak: pretending to bite. It's a common thing and 942 00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:19,740 that where he was it wasn't in Korea and was 943 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,950 Adam Curry: but then the second thing they have and this is from 944 00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:25,500 Vanity Fair, I think is Vanity Fair. Vanity 945 00:54:25,530 --> 00:54:27,720 John C Dvorak: Vanity Fair did a hit piece on him out of the 946 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,620 blue. Oh, really? piece was well, well, you want to hear or 947 00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:34,410 have a clip. I have a clip. Well, let me just finish it was 948 00:54:34,410 --> 00:54:38,880 orchestrated, obviously way in advance two months. These pieces 949 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,500 you can't write overnight? No. 950 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:43,920 Unknown: A new report from Vanity Fair is leveling a range 951 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,280 of new allegations about his conduct. The author of that 952 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,370 article, Joe Hagan joins us now he's a special correspondent for 953 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,470 Vanity Fair. Joe, good to see you. Thanks so much for being 954 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:55,740 here. Tell us about how you know what you are learning about 955 00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:56,610 this. What you found. 956 00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:59,940 Well, you know, I began this reporting about two months ago. 957 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,800 And I started to hear, you know, whispers of this kind of thing 958 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,580 and reached this woman who had been through a long process of 959 00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:10,590 trying to decide whether she wanted to come forward, as you 960 00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:16,770 can imagine, requires a lot of guts to come on the record and, 961 00:55:16,890 --> 00:55:20,280 and talk about things like this in public against a figure like 962 00:55:21,090 --> 00:55:26,580 Bobby Kennedy has powerful man from a powerful family. And 963 00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:29,490 today, as you as you just pointed out, those allegations 964 00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:36,090 came out she was a babysitter for him and 1999 1998. And he 965 00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:40,170 made some advances on her unwanted advances on her groped 966 00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:43,560 her. She says she recorded some of this in her diary that was 967 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,800 concurrent with the times. Now he's was asked about it point 968 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,380 blank today. And he said he had no comment on it, and also made 969 00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:54,540 some other comments that, you know, he's no church boy. And 970 00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:58,080 what he did in his youth, you know, was he's got skeletons in 971 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,620 his closet. He said, Well, he was 45 at the time of these 972 00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:05,160 allegations, which sort of post post youth, as far as I can 973 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,690 tell, but so he has not said anything about him. He hasn't 974 00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:11,790 expanded on it. He hasn't rebutted number 975 00:56:11,790 --> 00:56:14,760 Adam Curry: one, Vanity Fair was kind of like just the lower rent 976 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,470 Vogue. And they had fashion and you know, some celebrity stuff. 977 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,460 And just the celebrity stuff. Yeah. And now they're doing hit 978 00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:26,490 pieces, political hit pieces, shame. Well, that entire 979 00:56:26,490 --> 00:56:29,130 John C Dvorak: operation, which I think is now owned by 980 00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:35,730 advanced, includes a Teen Vogue, which is a socialist Oregon. 981 00:56:36,330 --> 00:56:37,440 Teen Vogue has 982 00:56:38,430 --> 00:56:40,380 Adam Curry: Vanity Fair and Vogue are owned by the same 983 00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:41,880 publisher. Yeah, 984 00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:47,490 John C Dvorak: okay. And Teen Vogue is, for all practical 985 00:56:47,490 --> 00:56:51,930 purposes, a Marxist operation. And they have articles in there 986 00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:54,960 trying to encourage teens to think more positively about 987 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,890 socialism. And I mean, they're, it's just they're just really 988 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,060 terrible. Yeah. 989 00:57:00,330 --> 00:57:02,250 Adam Curry: Well, you know, at least the staying with us. She's 990 00:57:02,250 --> 00:57:07,620 27. And she's she runs in the circles in Brooklyn, New York. 991 00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:12,330 She knows about our show, of course. And she sent me she 992 00:57:12,330 --> 00:57:17,820 forwarded me a text message that's going around on the text 993 00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:21,240 chain. And it's filled with emojis, but I'll just try and 994 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,830 read the words because every word is an emoji. Face, like you 995 00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:31,140 just got a ticket, ticket emoji to the Kamala train. The bar car 996 00:57:31,140 --> 00:57:35,190 is open, the conductor is zand up as Xanax. And we've just hit 997 00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:40,050 a cow without even slowing down fav heart and send to 10 friends 998 00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:44,250 where you will fall into a K hole forever. And none of them 999 00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:47,070 are voting. She says none of her friends are voting. They don't 1000 00:57:47,070 --> 00:57:51,690 care. They have given up. So I think there's nothing it's all 1001 00:57:51,690 --> 00:57:53,670 gone. All gone. 1002 00:57:55,230 --> 00:57:56,340 John C Dvorak: It's okay. Whole. 1003 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,950 Adam Curry: Oh, when you take too much ketamine, 1004 00:57:59,250 --> 00:58:02,010 recreationally. And then you know this. 1005 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,600 John C Dvorak: So that note was laced with drug reference. Yes. 1006 00:58:07,170 --> 00:58:10,680 Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Well, that's the general feeling is 1007 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,830 like, we're not we're not we're not playing we're not playing in 1008 00:58:13,830 --> 00:58:16,800 this we don't care calm was gonna be president, whatever. 1009 00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:22,170 We'll just continue our blue collar jobs. That's the message. 1010 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520 John C Dvorak: Let's sound like they wanted support for Kamala 1011 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,030 to me. 1012 00:58:27,060 --> 00:58:29,310 Adam Curry: Yeah. But they're all laughing about it. They're 1013 00:58:29,310 --> 00:58:32,880 all there. They think it's hilarious. I know that, yes. 1014 00:58:33,630 --> 00:58:37,500 This, the idea is they're all being pander to to support 1015 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:39,120 Kamala Harris. And they're all like, know 1016 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,920 John C Dvorak: where they're gonna have it. You know, this is 1017 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,760 interesting, because you have two schools of thought of people 1018 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,090 looking at this Biden quitting. And there's a lot of adamant, 1019 00:58:51,090 --> 00:58:54,300 no, he's going to be on the ticket, guys who are being 1020 00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:57,330 pushed out and I think by the Council on Foreign Relations, 1021 00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:03,480 Stooges. And I think and then the other group is that there's 1022 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,310 going to be replacing it and there's some people that take 1023 00:59:05,310 --> 00:59:08,730 that even Gavin Newsom giggity, which is politically incorrect 1024 00:59:08,730 --> 00:59:13,380 is not going to happen. You can't move a black, no, whatever 1025 00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:19,470 you want to call her advertising out and put some white, slick, 1026 00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:24,540 slick guy in instead of her. I mean, you could almost just swap 1027 00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:27,180 out the heads and leave Campbell as vice president, but that 1028 00:59:27,210 --> 00:59:29,460 that's not gonna fly off the handle is not going to put up 1029 00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:29,580 with 1030 00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:33,270 Adam Curry: the only strategy that is left assuming that 1031 00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:38,160 Kamala becomes the president and then runs for reelection as 1032 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:44,760 president is to make her as viable as possible through 1033 00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:50,310 Hollywood and, you know, smoke and mirrors and then cheat their 1034 00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:54,060 ass off and then say, well, we always knew she could do it, you 1035 00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:56,190 know, that. I think that's that's 1036 00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:57,930 John C Dvorak: got to be the strategy. There's no other 1037 00:59:57,930 --> 01:00:01,590 strategy than than what you just said. exactly just there is no 1038 01:00:01,590 --> 01:00:06,930 other strategy then Tony baloney it up with her and you write us 1039 01:00:06,930 --> 01:00:10,770 Hollywood people do some great at some of those ads where you 1040 01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:13,800 get this celebrity after celebrity and make her seem 1041 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:19,260 smarter than she is. And then cheat. Yes. And then claim that 1042 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:22,770 Dahlia was all you know, she's she's great. And then she's 1043 01:00:22,770 --> 01:00:25,650 another puppet there who I don't know. 1044 01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:29,610 Adam Curry: So today is election day in the United Kingdom, which 1045 01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:33,480 is a couple of clips which is hilarious seeing as you know, 1046 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,040 it's the day we worked their butts. 1047 01:00:37,350 --> 01:00:38,880 John C Dvorak: What was the point of during the election the 1048 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,110 fourth of all it's 1049 01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:42,090 Adam Curry: a snap election. Well, I want to hear I have only 1050 01:00:42,090 --> 01:00:44,610 one clip. So I'd like to hear your clips first what you got. 1051 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,110 John C Dvorak: And I want to do have a couple of rounded clips. 1052 01:00:49,950 --> 01:00:53,430 Round up. Yeah, you kick elections clip up good. 1053 01:00:53,460 --> 01:00:54,120 bookmakers 1054 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,970 Unknown: say Keir Starmer is a center left opposition Labour 1055 01:00:56,970 --> 01:01:00,360 Party is set to win a record majority in today's general 1056 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,500 election in the UK, 1057 01:01:01,530 --> 01:01:04,710 Britain's Conservative Party all but conceded defeat to labour 1058 01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:09,330 yesterday a day before polling stations even opened and warned 1059 01:01:09,330 --> 01:01:12,810 that the opposition party was on a course for record breaking 1060 01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:13,440 victory. 1061 01:01:13,650 --> 01:01:17,010 Facing predictions of the worst results in the party's history. 1062 01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:20,670 The Conservatives turned their focus to damage litigation. They 1063 01:01:20,670 --> 01:01:23,520 said they needed to hang on to enough seeds to provide an 1064 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,650 effective opposition to a Labour Government 1065 01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:30,120 John C Dvorak: damage litigation that that was a good term They 1066 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:37,080 already gave up. Yeah, yesterday the Conservatives Tories came 1067 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,710 out say well we okay were they conceded before the election 1068 01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:43,740 before one vote was cast. So there were that's how bad it 1069 01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:44,370 looked? Well, 1070 01:01:44,370 --> 01:01:47,100 Adam Curry: there was a very interesting deconstruction on 1071 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:52,800 the Lotus Eaters podcast and I have a minute of that which I 1072 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,060 think was it it kind of pulls back an event that happened in 1073 01:01:57,060 --> 01:01:59,460 the last couple of months that we didn't really discuss and 1074 01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:01,800 kind of didn't know what was going on but I liked the 1075 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,030 analysis and 1076 01:02:03,090 --> 01:02:05,940 Unknown: when I say if I could add to that which is a little 1077 01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:08,910 bit conspiratorial because there's no proper proper 1078 01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:11,400 Adam Curry: you know, this is obviously why I liked it is 1079 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,320 conspiratorial, okay, blown 1080 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,450 Unknown: evidence for it. But it's sort of almost 1081 01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:19,200 inexplicable, a lot of people have been saying what it needs 1082 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,580 to have it it's like a stroke. It's almost inexplicable why the 1083 01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:27,030 why the Tories are being so bad, trying to get themselves 1084 01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:30,300 reelected. I remember when Obama came and visited out of the 1085 01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:34,500 blue, and we visited Rishi was he then it Yes, hanging around 1086 01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:37,020 it stills like and again, there's no proper evidence for 1087 01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:40,350 this, but it just feels like he sort of had a message from the 1088 01:02:40,350 --> 01:02:44,250 party of Davos from the from the web, if overlords whoever is 1089 01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:48,540 saying it's time to call an election and throw it. We want 1090 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:52,950 Star Marine now we see a window of opportunity where Starmer our 1091 01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:57,390 other puppet, our backup puppet, can get a massive majority. And 1092 01:02:57,390 --> 01:03:01,110 that's better for us now. So pull an election and throw it up 1093 01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:03,990 policy stays in power forever now, which is why it's so 1094 01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:06,990 imperative to vote reform, frankly. So yeah, we've got to 1095 01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:09,780 we've got to make sure that Faraj can get some nights for pm 1096 01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:12,690 this time round. Exactly. Make it happen. 1097 01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:17,400 Adam Curry: very plausible. Now remember how weird that was that 1098 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,320 Obama all suddenly went into 10 Downing Street? Just a couple 1099 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:22,950 months ago. 1100 01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:26,550 John C Dvorak: It's an interesting idea. There is some 1101 01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:32,730 thought that Faraj was, created this Reform Party to help 1102 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,500 destroy the Tories, which he has some hard on about. Well, yeah, 1103 01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:42,660 and and so he did, and he's always he keeps trying to become 1104 01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:46,620 an MP. He's been trying to do that for I think 17 years. He's 1105 01:03:46,770 --> 01:03:50,100 never made it. And whether it gets in this time or now it's 1106 01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:52,170 another issue and he'd be funny if he 1107 01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:54,240 Adam Curry: was it would be great. It'd be good for the show 1108 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,560 he great but for everybody, 1109 01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:58,380 John C Dvorak: but he always kind of backs off at the end and 1110 01:03:58,380 --> 01:04:02,700 there's some there's a squirrel is a number of scurrilous, 1111 01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:08,160 substack columns about him being gay, and, and being blackmailed. 1112 01:04:08,310 --> 01:04:12,660 Yeah, you were all over that. Well, I was my contact in 1113 01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:17,520 England, Andrew, Alaska is a fellow writer, he's one that 1114 01:04:17,850 --> 01:04:21,150 turned me on to this what's going on? Because it turns out 1115 01:04:21,150 --> 01:04:25,770 that Brage kind of creates a problem and then all of a sudden 1116 01:04:25,770 --> 01:04:28,500 out of the blue just backs off and disappears. And maybe he's 1117 01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:28,740 just 1118 01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:31,380 Adam Curry: maybe just makes his money by making problems you 1119 01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:36,450 need to create a problem and their problem. Like that problem 1120 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,170 can be a problem, but 1121 01:04:37,170 --> 01:04:39,660 John C Dvorak: this is going to be a laughable situation. 1122 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:46,110 Because labor just to summarize it. depositories ruin the 1123 01:04:46,110 --> 01:04:49,860 country. They didn't do anything they did public services are 1124 01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:52,980 down the tubes and this last year, which is what our lawsuit 1125 01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:55,740 was, I was talking to him on the phone. He thought it was kind of 1126 01:04:55,740 --> 01:04:58,950 baffling is that because of Brexit the idea of Brexit was to 1127 01:04:58,950 --> 01:05:03,420 keep immigration to out and this last 12 months immigration is 1128 01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:06,150 the highest in England ever. You 1129 01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:11,550 Adam Curry: know I one of our friends is in place in the UK 1130 01:05:11,550 --> 01:05:15,570 and she was texting Tina, you say you know I was on Oxford 1131 01:05:15,570 --> 01:05:29,700 Street and it's nothing other than Muslims women in jobs jobs 1132 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:35,190 and and more she said it doesn't look like London at all anymore 1133 01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:38,400 and London was kind of a melting pot but now it's just she said 1134 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,880 it's it's it's I kisses I would hate to see that happen to any 1135 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,990 city anywhere. It's just not London anymore it's the whole 1136 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,370 street pictures just completely changed. Now some Amsterdam has 1137 01:05:50,370 --> 01:05:53,310 some of that Rotterdam have some of that but not like that. We 1138 01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:57,150 got a boots on the ground from our Brahmin in the UK sir abs. 1139 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,200 says hi guys want to give you a boots on the ground report the 1140 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,350 UK general elections. I'm a brown Hindu guy John, I'm a 1141 01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:08,610 Brahmin. He says a silent revolt is occurring. I'm getting 1142 01:06:08,610 --> 01:06:12,150 WhatsApp messages after WhatsApp messages from black brown and 1143 01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:15,540 white people urging each other to vote for Faraj his Reform 1144 01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:18,900 Party. I was not going to vote for anyone at all. But I've been 1145 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:22,080 convinced on voting reform this Thursday. And so as my whole 1146 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,410 family, everyone thinks Labour will get the majority we'll wait 1147 01:06:25,410 --> 01:06:26,580 and see. He says 1148 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,990 John C Dvorak: I saw that note. And then then I after that is 1149 01:06:30,990 --> 01:06:34,590 when I talked to our Loski who says he says the Faraj thing was 1150 01:06:34,590 --> 01:06:37,950 a psyop. And then I thought back on that note and said, Well, 1151 01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:42,600 this was sounds like a psyop note to me to feed our podcast 1152 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,660 with the dubious information that for reform parties is going 1153 01:06:45,660 --> 01:06:46,950 to get a few so you're saying 1154 01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:49,440 Adam Curry: that a night of the no agenda round table is trying 1155 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:50,550 to sigh up us? 1156 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:53,250 John C Dvorak: You think that's impossible? 1157 01:06:53,460 --> 01:06:57,720 Adam Curry: I think it's a high insult. Not 1158 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,200 John C Dvorak: insulting anybody just saying it just seemed a 1159 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,450 little suspicious. At the time. I'm not convinced that this this 1160 01:07:06,450 --> 01:07:10,320 whole thing anyway to continue with the analysis of the Tories, 1161 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,720 having wrecked the country and allowing the immigrant 1162 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,900 immigration to completely take over and then public services to 1163 01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:20,130 go down the tubes and the health service to drop dead. The Labour 1164 01:07:20,130 --> 01:07:24,420 Party is ran on the on the conditions they say they're not 1165 01:07:24,420 --> 01:07:26,910 going to change anything. They're not going to improve 1166 01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:31,740 anything so so most analysts if you watch the Deutsche valet and 1167 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,310 press 24 when they bring the Brits on, they say that's going 1168 01:07:35,310 --> 01:07:36,660 to just get worse. 1169 01:07:37,890 --> 01:07:40,080 Adam Curry: boots on the ground from our producer Craig and he 1170 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,420 and his son were in London in March he said there was a 1171 01:07:42,420 --> 01:07:45,870 specific stop on the tube between Heathrow and downtown 1172 01:07:45,870 --> 01:07:53,250 where every sign was both in English and Arabic. It's crazy. 1173 01:07:53,850 --> 01:07:58,860 It's crazy. It's crazy. So then we have France where the where 1174 01:07:58,860 --> 01:08:02,190 of course the far right the far right the far right move. Oh, 1175 01:08:02,490 --> 01:08:06,210 the fascist. Oh no, they're in they want oh no round one. 1176 01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:06,750 Tonight's 1177 01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:10,110 Unknown: headlines across Europe declaring President McCrone 1178 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,850 humiliated by a charismatic 28 year old with an impoverished 1179 01:08:14,850 --> 01:08:19,320 childhood and no university degree. Jordan bardell is far 1180 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,550 right for a fascist, anti immigration party winning third 1181 01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:23,850 light 1182 01:08:23,850 --> 01:08:28,020 Adam Curry: that read former fascist, anti immigration party 1183 01:08:28,050 --> 01:08:32,250 Unknown: degree. Jordan bardell is far right. Former fascist 1184 01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:36,120 anti immigration party winning 33% of the votes. How 1185 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,670 Adam Curry: do you how do you how can you be fascist? And then 1186 01:08:38,670 --> 01:08:41,760 like, you know, I'm gonna give that up. I don't want to be a 1187 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,690 fascist anymore. Let's just be former fascists. This is this is 1188 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,230 interesting. 1189 01:08:46,259 --> 01:08:48,479 John C Dvorak: When they say fascist, does it mean he was a 1190 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:53,429 member of the Italian Fascist Party? The group that that 1191 01:08:53,429 --> 01:08:56,999 formed in the in the late 20s or in the mid 20s. It's just in 1192 01:08:56,999 --> 01:09:01,919 Italy with an actual political party. Yes, that was back 1193 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,650 Adam Curry: when vaccines actually meant injecting a dead 1194 01:09:04,650 --> 01:09:07,920 virus. You know, words change get with it's far 1195 01:09:07,919 --> 01:09:11,819 Unknown: right. Former fascist anti immigration party winning 1196 01:09:11,819 --> 01:09:16,769 33% of the vote. That's cool. We need a change. This supporter 1197 01:09:16,769 --> 01:09:21,989 says it's not the front I knew says this woman reacting to the 1198 01:09:21,989 --> 01:09:25,949 results at a polling station in Dijon. Three hours from the 1199 01:09:25,949 --> 01:09:30,539 Capitol, we found huge numbers voting battling for the soul of 1200 01:09:30,539 --> 01:09:34,799 a deeply divided country. Two people outside of Paris feel 1201 01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:39,059 forgotten by the government yet. Emmanuel Macron is a Parisian 1202 01:09:39,149 --> 01:09:42,989 into the world. He lives in an ivory tower says this rival 1203 01:09:42,989 --> 01:09:47,369 candidate disconnected from reality. Tonight France winning 1204 01:09:47,369 --> 01:09:51,389 a major soccer match in Germany, but their superstar Captain his 1205 01:09:51,389 --> 01:09:55,199 father in immigrants warning extremists are out the door. 1206 01:09:55,619 --> 01:09:58,919 Fans that the European tournament last week telling us 1207 01:09:58,949 --> 01:10:01,829 inflation and the Immigration are to blame for this 1208 01:10:01,829 --> 01:10:07,079 unprecedented postwar, right wing lurch. I can understand why 1209 01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:10,169 people are angry. Do you think people are forgetting their 1210 01:10:10,169 --> 01:10:14,429 history? Oh yeah, they should have are kind of spinning it in 1211 01:10:14,429 --> 01:10:18,179 a way that suits them. The French far right has been 1212 01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:22,049 negative on the European Union and positive towards Putin. 1213 01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:25,799 Europe's future rests on the second vote next Sunday. 1214 01:10:26,190 --> 01:10:29,940 Adam Curry: I like the right wing lurch as we just lurch to 1215 01:10:29,940 --> 01:10:31,680 the right everybody because you know, what 1216 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,690 John C Dvorak: is that? What's that got to do with communist 1217 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:39,150 Russia? So I mean, you the fascist, you're a super right 1218 01:10:39,150 --> 01:10:40,230 winger, that is you know, a 1219 01:10:40,230 --> 01:10:42,990 Adam Curry: fascist Russia is Russia is not communist anymore. 1220 01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:43,110 It's 1221 01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:45,540 John C Dvorak: like, oh, no, it's fascist is some somehow 1222 01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:48,450 turned fascist? That's interesting. Now 1223 01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,340 Adam Curry: to the actual program work, I 1224 01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:51,180 John C Dvorak: wonder. Yeah, 1225 01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:55,980 Adam Curry: this is no, the news is dead. People just need to 1226 01:10:55,980 --> 01:10:59,280 listen to podcasts because the news is not serving you. It's no 1227 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,720 good. So now let's look at what these guys are actually doing 1228 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,500 when it comes to the coveted climate change. Oh, no. 1229 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,780 Unknown: Well, the party's manifesto does not mention 1230 01:11:09,780 --> 01:11:13,200 climate change or net zero targets. It does mention the 1231 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,560 environment but through the angle of environmental norms, 1232 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,490 which they are you penalize environment, economic growth, 1233 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,440 and you find the same language of war, so called punitive norms 1234 01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:29,670 that they have used in the past and the National rally, they 1235 01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:33,480 pledged and I quote to defend the quality of life of French 1236 01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:38,280 people by rejecting all punitive ecology. Now, those what you see 1237 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,300 there on the screen are some key energy related proposals that 1238 01:11:42,300 --> 01:11:45,360 the National rally has put forward. Some of them 1239 01:11:45,660 --> 01:11:49,260 environmentalists fear could weaken Frances climate 1240 01:11:49,260 --> 01:11:53,640 ambitions, at least two of them the first one being to lower VAT 1241 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:59,340 on all energy products from 20% to 5.5%. So that includes fuel 1242 01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:03,450 energy, electricity, gas and heating oil, which in a way 1243 01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:08,100 could be used to as a tool to promote fossil fuels. They also 1244 01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:12,120 plan to invest in hydrogen, geothermal energy and also 1245 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,970 nuclear reactors. Now, when it comes to hydrogen and 1246 01:12:14,970 --> 01:12:18,990 geothermal, those are two things are are currently in 1247 01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:22,590 development. But there is, I mean, nothing shows they could 1248 01:12:22,590 --> 01:12:26,460 be deployed on a large scale in France at the moment, and 1249 01:12:26,460 --> 01:12:30,540 nuclear reactors, before they actually built nuclear reactors 1250 01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:34,950 is going to take years before we have them. And they also more 1251 01:12:34,980 --> 01:12:39,210 More importantly, they also plan to end subsidies for wind power 1252 01:12:39,210 --> 01:12:43,380 projects, and even Council projects. Bearing in mind that 1253 01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:48,420 solar and wind power, they make up 15% of France's a power 1254 01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:52,800 generation and they also help avoid 22 million tons of carbon 1255 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,690 dioxide every single year. These 1256 01:12:54,690 --> 01:12:57,000 Adam Curry: guys are on the right track, shut down the 1257 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,480 stupid windmills and the solar and get some nuke in there and 1258 01:13:00,750 --> 01:13:04,770 pander a little bit to the hydrogen crowd, whatever. And 1259 01:13:04,770 --> 01:13:09,210 lower the taxes 22% to 5%. Yeah, that will make France prosper. 1260 01:13:10,260 --> 01:13:15,780 It's obvious. Now the world is upside down. Everyone's gone 1261 01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:17,700 crazy. Crazy. 1262 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,690 John C Dvorak: It's nuts noticeably. Have a couple of 1263 01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:26,310 tick tock Well, clips I want to get out of here. 1264 01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:28,140 Adam Curry: Oh good. I'm so happy. We just 1265 01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:30,150 John C Dvorak: had our pride event in San Francisco, which 1266 01:13:30,150 --> 01:13:31,740 became very scandalous. Oh 1267 01:13:31,740 --> 01:13:33,750 Adam Curry: man, the world round. They were showing 1268 01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:36,930 pictures like people took their children to see this. 1269 01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:41,340 John C Dvorak: So let's play this is a tick tock or bitching. 1270 01:13:41,970 --> 01:13:46,290 And this is a tick talking about SF Brian she's I believe she's a 1271 01:13:46,290 --> 01:13:50,850 reporter or somebody that covers the event and here she is. She's 1272 01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:51,600 not happy. 1273 01:13:51,630 --> 01:13:53,520 Adam Curry: Is this the pride or the pride rant? 1274 01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:58,350 John C Dvorak: I think so about the same. Oh, okay. Go with 1275 01:13:58,350 --> 01:14:01,560 pride rant. I don't know why the oh, that's Oh, that's Oh, that's 1276 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,060 interesting. Okay, yeah, pride rant. 1277 01:14:03,150 --> 01:14:06,660 Unknown: Okay, I feel physically ill after spending the day at 1278 01:14:06,660 --> 01:14:09,840 San Francisco pride. Now I've been to quite a few pride 1279 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,040 events. But this one was by far the most disturbing and it was 1280 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,470 because they were nudist there that were fully erect in front 1281 01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:20,610 of children standing in a way to make sure that everybody saw 1282 01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:24,510 their their fully exposed penises. There were adults 1283 01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:29,790 grabbing other people's genitals and other adults masturbating. 1284 01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:32,640 There was a fetish zone in which people were peeing on each 1285 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:39,420 other. I'm just, I'm shocked and horrified after experiencing 1286 01:14:39,420 --> 01:14:43,380 this. And keep in mind that this is an all ages event. There were 1287 01:14:43,380 --> 01:14:47,790 children present. The fetish zone was an 18 plus area, but 1288 01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:51,600 there were no ID being checked. And again, there were adults, 1289 01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:57,030 essentially having sex in public. I am shocked I've never 1290 01:14:57,030 --> 01:15:03,780 experienced such a vote. For display of promiscuity I mean I 1291 01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:08,910 don't even know what to say in terms of this. I'm shocked and 1292 01:15:08,910 --> 01:15:13,650 horrified and I don't think I'm ever going to cover pride ever 1293 01:15:13,650 --> 01:15:17,850 again after after what I witnessed today it was the worst 1294 01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:18,990 of the worst was bad. 1295 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,620 Adam Curry: I agree it's it was shameful that what I saw was 1296 01:15:22,620 --> 01:15:26,280 just like what are you? I thought some of it was maybe 1297 01:15:26,490 --> 01:15:28,740 kind of amplified by some No, 1298 01:15:28,770 --> 01:15:31,950 John C Dvorak: it was pretty. It was covered locally, and 1299 01:15:31,950 --> 01:15:34,170 everyone's kind of like didn't know what to make of it. 1300 01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:37,950 Adam Curry: But they're all too afraid to go stand up and say 1301 01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:41,640 hey, stop this idiocy aren't they? Everyone's afraid of being 1302 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,220 canceled they have their 1303 01:15:44,220 --> 01:15:46,020 John C Dvorak: the cops are walking by their wish I don't 1304 01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:49,230 have this clip. But I'll tell you what happened as woman two 1305 01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:53,370 lesbian police officers are walking down the thing is this 1306 01:15:53,370 --> 01:15:56,910 is this legal? And this well, you know, under shirt it's all 1307 01:15:56,910 --> 01:15:59,460 depends on the circumstance. And they were making all these 1308 01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:03,030 excuses for these guys walking around that hard on in front of 1309 01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:08,220 a bunch of kids and then and did the little just one little zone 1310 01:16:08,220 --> 01:16:12,480 of fetish zone they called it where they just again have in 1311 01:16:12,690 --> 01:16:17,850 this rubberized swimming pools, you know the little? Yeah, 1312 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:21,330 you're in there. That guy's on his on his stomach or on his 1313 01:16:21,330 --> 01:16:23,550 back. And there's a bunch of guys peeing, wait a minute, 1314 01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:25,590 Adam Curry: wait a minute, that's a clear violation, you're 1315 01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:30,030 not supposed to urinate in the pool. Clear violation. And so 1316 01:16:30,030 --> 01:16:35,700 there was some more Francisco is what it is. Saddam was a morose 1317 01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:39,120 John C Dvorak: and in the end, like somebody pointed out, you 1318 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,240 know, the gay community has gone all the way to push and push gay 1319 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,180 marriage and all the rest of it, and always had this friends 1320 01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:46,530 today. Just gonna want more. 1321 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,080 Unknown: That's, that's not the gay community. 1322 01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:52,440 John C Dvorak: That is no it's not. It's a fetish weirdo 1323 01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:55,290 community that that, unfortunately, is not being held 1324 01:16:55,290 --> 01:16:59,880 to check and held to account to account. That's exactly right. 1325 01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:02,790 And the police aren't doing it. It's almost like they're doing 1326 01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:06,450 it on purpose. And allowing it on purpose and the police are 1327 01:17:06,450 --> 01:17:10,620 turning a blind eye to it, the whole thing seems like a setup 1328 01:17:10,650 --> 01:17:13,680 Adam Curry: unit over there, you should you should lead that. 1329 01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:18,660 John C Dvorak: I don't care. It's good for the show. And so 1330 01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:24,240 it's like a setup to make sure that Trump gets elected. I'm 1331 01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:27,750 just, there's something fishy about the whole thing. 1332 01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:31,050 Adam Curry: And he makes a twist. Okay. All right. Go. 1333 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:37,050 We're a broken country. Mr. President, come save us. It's, I 1334 01:17:37,050 --> 01:17:40,290 mean, I'm actually kind of speechless about what they were 1335 01:17:40,290 --> 01:17:48,600 doing. I come from Amsterdam. No way. No way. This is insane. In 1336 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,160 front of children. And 1337 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,140 John C Dvorak: of course, this is the San Francisco government 1338 01:17:52,140 --> 01:17:55,740 that allowed this but I think they just naively allowed it. 1339 01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:57,630 Standing to Mecca. And I say this 1340 01:17:57,630 --> 01:17:59,640 Adam Curry: once every couple of months get out. 1341 01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:02,940 John C Dvorak: Why not? Dare I mean, dude, East Bay, I'm not 1342 01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:05,880 anywhere near there. They didn't have a grading rate here. It's 1343 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:11,100 spreading. It's not spreads. It's not spreading to 1344 01:18:11,310 --> 01:18:13,380 Adam Curry: New York Times readers across the street. 1345 01:18:13,380 --> 01:18:15,960 They're gonna start walking around New York Times readers 1346 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,930 John C Dvorak: all over. That's what I'm saying. And the thing 1347 01:18:18,930 --> 01:18:22,320 is, is you can map them because you could because they have the 1348 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:27,900 New York Times is always wrapped in a blue class. Last thing, 1349 01:18:27,900 --> 01:18:32,400 yeah. So if you drive down the street delivery, you can see you 1350 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,670 can see all the all their stages that read The New York Times 1351 01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:38,250 almost exclusively already read the local paper, they just read 1352 01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:39,210 the New York Times. 1353 01:18:40,740 --> 01:18:43,320 Adam Curry: So sad. You do want open borders and you want to do 1354 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,910 more tick tock clips. Yeah, I 1355 01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:48,450 John C Dvorak: got some good. Yeah. These are not about the 1356 01:18:48,450 --> 01:18:49,380 gay thing. But 1357 01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:52,320 Unknown: tock, tick tock. 1358 01:18:56,130 --> 01:18:58,590 John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's get these out of the way. Yeah. This 1359 01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:02,490 is a racist one. I didn't know any of this. But for race. Did 1360 01:19:02,490 --> 01:19:05,460 you know that good when you say good morning, that's racist. 1361 01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:05,850 Yeah. 1362 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,800 Adam Curry: Because I've seen this one. The 1363 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,770 Unknown: reason why I don't use a term that morning. Did you 1364 01:19:10,770 --> 01:19:15,810 know back in slavery days after the Masters had beaten us, taken 1365 01:19:15,810 --> 01:19:21,120 our children, writes us, hung us burned us, and then left us in a 1366 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:27,030 dark shed overnight. They would literally open up the door, and 1367 01:19:27,030 --> 01:19:32,520 they would greet us by saying Did you have a good morning? 1368 01:19:32,970 --> 01:19:38,820 Meaning? Did you cry all night over the things that we've done 1369 01:19:38,820 --> 01:19:44,430 to your loved ones? So this is the reason why I took Good 1370 01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:49,230 morning out of my vocabulary, because truly if you think about 1371 01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:57,120 it, there is absolutely nothing good about mourning. I che che 1372 01:19:57,660 --> 01:19:58,140 che 1373 01:19:58,170 --> 01:20:00,990 Adam Curry: che What is that? 1374 01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:04,470 John C Dvorak: What is it? This is classic Roseanne Roseanna 1375 01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:08,490 Danna kind of thing where I questioned the validity of that. 1376 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,310 I will I will give you that. I think it could have been a 1377 01:20:11,310 --> 01:20:16,110 staged stage. Here's here's one, I'm pretty sure is also semi 1378 01:20:16,110 --> 01:20:20,070 staged, but it's not. But it's funny. This is the followers 1379 01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:23,190 clip. This was on Dr. Phil ended up on Tik Tok. 1380 01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:26,280 Unknown: I mean, I don't talk to my family. They're irrelevant. 1381 01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:29,190 They're irrelevant. None of them have followers. If they got 1382 01:20:29,190 --> 01:20:31,380 followers or got rich, I'd probably talk to them again. 1383 01:20:32,010 --> 01:20:35,100 Did you just say I don't talk to my family because they don't 1384 01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:37,410 have followers. If that followers 1385 01:20:37,410 --> 01:20:38,250 they'd be here right now. 1386 01:20:38,430 --> 01:20:39,480 You joke about your mother. 1387 01:20:40,140 --> 01:20:43,710 I mean, my mom has more followers than my sister. It's 1388 01:20:43,710 --> 01:20:46,710 your mother. What do you what do you what do you care if she has 1389 01:20:46,710 --> 01:20:48,390 followers? If your mother 1390 01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:52,050 can anyone tell me like what I would talk to my mom about if 1391 01:20:52,050 --> 01:20:53,970 she's not going to be making me relevant? 1392 01:20:55,470 --> 01:20:57,570 Yeah, like hi, mom. Nine 1393 01:20:57,570 --> 01:21:00,480 have a career and I'm famous. Like, that's what happens when 1394 01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:01,950 you get famous. You've cut people off. 1395 01:21:04,770 --> 01:21:06,420 Seriously, Everyone's 1396 01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:10,380 upset with it. Maybe because you guys aren't relevant either. So 1397 01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:11,580 you don't understand. 1398 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,810 Adam Curry: Yeah, see this is this is what Dr. Phil does 1399 01:21:15,810 --> 01:21:19,890 wrong. Then the whole what was his what's his new media company 1400 01:21:19,890 --> 01:21:24,450 up there? They started in Dallas. Something St. God not 1401 01:21:24,450 --> 01:21:29,250 JobStreet media. And you know and so he'll do like series 1402 01:21:29,250 --> 01:21:31,920 he'll sit down with President Trump will do a serious 1403 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,520 interview and then he brings this this dip dip crap on like, 1404 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,110 come on. This is insulting and it and it just brings down all 1405 01:21:40,110 --> 01:21:44,490 alternative media and he's, he's he's just polluting the waters. 1406 01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:45,570 Yeah, 1407 01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:50,160 John C Dvorak: no, I'm not gonna argue. The last one here is the 1408 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,230 podcast rant. Oh boy can't 1409 01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:54,300 Unknown: be the only person who thinks it's insane that we're 1410 01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:56,820 already collectively forgetting where the word podcast comes 1411 01:21:56,820 --> 01:21:59,640 from. I mean, since the iPod has become obsolete, there's no 1412 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,160 reason for people in the future to piece together that the word 1413 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,640 came from iPod plus broadcasts. But the even crazier thing about 1414 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,670 podcast outliving its conceptual Origins is that the exact same 1415 01:22:08,670 --> 01:22:11,400 thing already happened with the word broadcast which used to 1416 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,650 refer to an agricultural technique of widely dispersing 1417 01:22:13,650 --> 01:22:16,740 seeds on the ground, then that got abstracted as a metaphor for 1418 01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:19,650 widely dispersed information to the public. And then about 100 1419 01:22:19,650 --> 01:22:22,470 years later, that got turned into the word podcast. And this 1420 01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:24,780 keeps getting crazier the more you think about it, because 1421 01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:27,810 what's the word pod? The iPod was named in reference to a 1422 01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:30,510 scene from the movie 2001 Space Odyssey where the main character 1423 01:22:30,510 --> 01:22:33,570 says Open the pod bay doors how and the pod bay doors in 1424 01:22:33,570 --> 01:22:36,270 question were named because of their visual similarity to 1425 01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:40,350 biological plant pods which are just vessels for carrying seeds. 1426 01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:43,920 So somehow podcast traces back to a word for something that 1427 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,610 carries seeds and a word for dispersing seeds. All 1428 01:22:47,610 --> 01:22:50,250 Adam Curry: right, I'm going to turn off your access to tick 1429 01:22:50,250 --> 01:22:52,680 tock you're not you're no longer allowed to watch 1430 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,590 John C Dvorak: the clip that specifically for you for your 1431 01:22:55,590 --> 01:23:00,270 files, your podcasting files banks, so you can have it in the 1432 01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:03,180 collection refer to it if necessary, 1433 01:23:03,210 --> 01:23:05,580 Adam Curry: in case I need to remember where the where the 1434 01:23:05,580 --> 01:23:07,800 term podcast came from. Yeah, because 1435 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,140 John C Dvorak: we're gonna soon forget Yeah. 1436 01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:17,550 Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, you put me into and you've you've put me 1437 01:23:17,550 --> 01:23:20,310 in irons here I have a brain freeze. Now I don't I can't do 1438 01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:22,020 anything after that. There's nowhere to 1439 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,290 John C Dvorak: go to guys and do do a quick Gaza thing. Well, 1440 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:25,920 actually, 1441 01:23:27,300 --> 01:23:31,500 Adam Curry: I do have Gaza. You have Gaza too. You want to? 1442 01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:34,560 Well, let me start with my safe zone clips from Gaza. Here we 1443 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,160 Unknown: go. and Israeli airstrike killed 12 Palestinians 1444 01:23:38,220 --> 01:23:41,880 in our mercy on Tuesday, despite the fact that it has been 1445 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,490 designated as a safe zone by Israel. 1446 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,480 These Palestinians have been fleeing from the east and part 1447 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:52,470 of cleanliness in droves continuing overnight, they've 1448 01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:55,830 described there's been an intense bombardment around con 1449 01:23:55,830 --> 01:24:00,150 unis. Some of the heaviest fighting in that bid second 1450 01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:03,870 biggest city in the Gaza Strip. Since Israeli troops withdrew 1451 01:24:03,870 --> 01:24:07,500 there. In early April. There's one hospital source that said 1452 01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:10,500 shelling killed at least eight people. And people have been 1453 01:24:10,500 --> 01:24:14,100 really heading west, some to other parts of cleanliness, and 1454 01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:17,610 many more to this area, which the Israeli military has 1455 01:24:17,610 --> 01:24:21,780 declared a safe zone along the coast, the ALMA wasI area, it's 1456 01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:24,930 about 14 kilometers long, but of course, people are struggling to 1457 01:24:24,930 --> 01:24:28,380 find space there. The reason that Hearne units have become so 1458 01:24:28,380 --> 01:24:33,060 crowded after it was largely left in ruins following that 1459 01:24:33,060 --> 01:24:36,780 monthslong Israeli military offensive there against what the 1460 01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:39,000 what the Israeli military said was a stronghold of Hamas 1461 01:24:39,180 --> 01:24:40,170 earlier in the war. 1462 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,580 Adam Curry: This is starting to bummed me out, man. This is 1463 01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:50,130 their stop. And this is just the military industrial complex and 1464 01:24:50,130 --> 01:24:53,850 malicious to more let's keep more war going on. Keep it in 1465 01:24:53,850 --> 01:24:57,030 the news, BBC. Good job, everybody. I'm sure you have 1466 01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:57,900 some clips 1467 01:25:00,570 --> 01:25:05,310 John C Dvorak: Well, I have NTD because BBC is terrible NTDs. 1468 01:25:05,310 --> 01:25:09,300 Just amateurish, but they got better analysis. This is just an 1469 01:25:09,630 --> 01:25:12,270 they brought an analyst on to talk about some of the gods and 1470 01:25:12,270 --> 01:25:16,140 stuff. And I think it's at least giving us some insight. Although 1471 01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:17,970 I, you know, I don't even believe that last one you 1472 01:25:17,970 --> 01:25:21,780 played. I don't even believe any of this. These reports out of 1473 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,650 Gaza, we can't trust any of it. On either side. It's all 1474 01:25:25,650 --> 01:25:26,520 propaganda. 1475 01:25:27,150 --> 01:25:29,340 Unknown: Earlier we spoke with David warms our Middle East 1476 01:25:29,340 --> 01:25:32,580 affairs analysts at the Center for Security Policy about where 1477 01:25:32,580 --> 01:25:36,210 things currently stand in the Israel Hamas war. David 1478 01:25:36,210 --> 01:25:38,220 Warmsley, thank you so much for joining us. Great to have you 1479 01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:42,990 back on the show. Now, the IDF says that over 1000 terrorists 1480 01:25:42,990 --> 01:25:46,830 have been killed in raw these are ones that they know, this 1481 01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:49,890 doesn't include ones that are buried in the rubble. Given that 1482 01:25:49,890 --> 01:25:53,100 where do things currently stand in terms of the Israel Hamas 1483 01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:53,490 war? 1484 01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,670 Yeah, good question. I think I think that Israel has 1485 01:25:56,670 --> 01:26:03,090 essentially now destroyed the functional military structure of 1486 01:26:03,090 --> 01:26:09,090 Hamas. Namely, they can't really operate as significant units 1487 01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:13,890 against Israel. But what they can do is the break down into 1488 01:26:13,890 --> 01:26:17,550 little squats that suddenly show up, they can do terrorist 1489 01:26:17,550 --> 01:26:21,480 attacks, they may still be able to launch missiles, here and 1490 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:24,510 there, very few, but some mostly short range, because they're 1491 01:26:24,510 --> 01:26:29,220 smaller, they may have a very, very limited ability to continue 1492 01:26:29,220 --> 01:26:33,060 to produce a few missiles here and there. So the Israelis, I 1493 01:26:33,060 --> 01:26:36,840 think, have more or less shut down this as a problem from 1494 01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:40,740 October 7 levels. What they still face though, is they need 1495 01:26:40,740 --> 01:26:44,370 to keep Gaza quite restricted, which means they need to keep 1496 01:26:44,370 --> 01:26:49,260 the border area between Egypt and Gaza under their control. So 1497 01:26:49,260 --> 01:26:54,120 that noose, because this is an organization and it still has 1498 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,900 enough territory, and enough people who would join it, that 1499 01:26:57,900 --> 01:27:01,680 it can reconstitute its force very rapidly within a few months 1500 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,370 or a year. And the know how is there so the Israelis really 1501 01:27:05,370 --> 01:27:08,520 have to constrict what goes in and controls very carefully, 1502 01:27:08,820 --> 01:27:12,390 that it can't be used to build weapons, build new tunnels, and 1503 01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:15,030 they have to maintain security control over the area, which 1504 01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:18,000 means they have to be able to go anywhere in that territory at 1505 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:23,010 any time to arrest somebody to, to take down a tunnel that 1506 01:27:23,010 --> 01:27:27,210 starting to be built missile factory that comes so it's now 1507 01:27:27,210 --> 01:27:30,840 small insurgency warfare that Israel faces, 1508 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,020 Adam Curry: I think the story that's built around it, whether 1509 01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:37,140 it's the BBCs version, or NTDs version, it's kind of 1510 01:27:37,140 --> 01:27:41,970 irrelevant. The idea is annihilate everything. Egypt may 1511 01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:44,820 even want to open the gate, but now that Israel has had nine, 1512 01:27:45,660 --> 01:27:48,090 that's under our control, we're not gonna have anybody out. 1513 01:27:48,540 --> 01:27:51,180 There just going to flatten it and everybody in it because 1514 01:27:51,180 --> 01:27:53,910 there's no way if you have three insurgents, you got more 1515 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:56,820 tunnels, they're gonna light up more, more, more, more stuff. 1516 01:27:56,820 --> 01:28:03,960 That's it. It's a never ending situation. It's athletic. It's 1517 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,300 really It's sad. It's just like this. 1518 01:28:06,690 --> 01:28:09,180 John C Dvorak: You got to pee. This is the Hatfields and the 1519 01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:13,020 McCoys. They hate each other as it can Ishmael. 1520 01:28:13,050 --> 01:28:14,070 Adam Curry: I mean, it goes back 1521 01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:16,650 John C Dvorak: a long way and keeps going back. It's been 1522 01:28:16,650 --> 01:28:19,650 around since I was a kid. I remember this. Yes. Isaac goes 1523 01:28:19,650 --> 01:28:26,010 by old days. Yes. When I was a kid during Ishmael zero. Yeah, 1524 01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:29,790 it's yeah, it's so it's almost ludicrous to cover it. But let's 1525 01:28:29,790 --> 01:28:30,720 play part two of these. 1526 01:28:30,750 --> 01:28:33,000 Unknown: On that note, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin 1527 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:37,080 Netanyahu has indicated privately that he could accept 1528 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,460 involvement by the Palestinian Authority in a postwar Gaza. 1529 01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:45,090 Now, this is according to a report. Given that what are the 1530 01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:47,970 likely next steps for Israel here? 1531 01:28:48,180 --> 01:28:51,150 I think it'd be very difficult for them to really accept a 1532 01:28:51,150 --> 01:28:53,640 Palestinian Authority for a couple of reasons. One is they 1533 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,510 see the Palestinian Authority becoming increasingly hostile. 1534 01:28:57,540 --> 01:29:01,110 The they never really had peace with the Palestinian Authority, 1535 01:29:01,470 --> 01:29:04,560 which is mostly now in the West Bank and Gaza and Judea and 1536 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:09,300 Samaria. So the Israelis, I don't think trust that not to 1537 01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:13,740 produce another threatening force that arises in Gaza. So I 1538 01:29:13,740 --> 01:29:16,020 don't think they can really let them in on that level. The 1539 01:29:16,020 --> 01:29:19,710 second thing is I don't think they really want to reward Hamas 1540 01:29:19,710 --> 01:29:22,830 for doing this war by essentially creating a new 1541 01:29:22,830 --> 01:29:26,250 Palestinian government. But most importantly, I think the 1542 01:29:26,250 --> 01:29:29,430 Israelis feel they need to maintain security control over 1543 01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:34,140 the territory. So I don't believe that really the 1544 01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:37,260 Palestinian authorities in the courts, the Israelis much would 1545 01:29:37,260 --> 01:29:43,740 prefer to work with local powers in the area families, clans, 1546 01:29:44,460 --> 01:29:48,570 tribes, more traditional structures and create a very 1547 01:29:48,570 --> 01:29:52,530 bottom lock governing structure that eventually has more and 1548 01:29:52,530 --> 01:29:55,890 more power, but at the beginning is really under their direct 1549 01:29:55,890 --> 01:29:56,760 occupation. 1550 01:29:57,300 --> 01:30:00,780 Adam Curry: You know, when when the October 7 happened, which of 1551 01:30:00,780 --> 01:30:04,980 course is has the moniker October 7 to make it sound like 1552 01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:10,200 September 11. They were right. It was a false flag, the 1553 01:30:10,230 --> 01:30:13,440 Netanyahu and whoever else was involved the military industrial 1554 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:17,880 complex that the defense industrial base, let it happen. 1555 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,100 They knew that something could happen. They knew they were 1556 01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:23,010 teaming up. They wanted this. They want you know, Jared 1557 01:30:23,010 --> 01:30:29,820 Kushner wants is his condos, his ocean view, villas, the golf 1558 01:30:29,820 --> 01:30:32,970 course everything. This was a setup they wanted they want and 1559 01:30:32,970 --> 01:30:36,690 they want war in the Middle East. They want war war war they 1560 01:30:36,690 --> 01:30:40,860 want that's why AIPAC is funded by the defense contractors that 1561 01:30:40,860 --> 01:30:45,930 just want war, more money with war. And now let's go to 1562 01:30:45,930 --> 01:30:50,760 Hezbollah, please. Because that's those guys are different 1563 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,210 caliber. Then then Hamas 1564 01:30:54,330 --> 01:30:56,400 Unknown: tonight, Israel assassinating one of the highest 1565 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,520 ranking Hezbollah commanders in Lebanon inching Israel and the 1566 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,390 powerful Iranian backed militia. Even closer to an all out war. 1567 01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:06,480 Mohammed Nima Nasser was killed in an apparent drone strike in 1568 01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:09,300 southern Lebanon and Hezbollah launching over 100 rockets at 1569 01:31:09,330 --> 01:31:12,990 Israel. In response. It comes as Hezbollah and Israeli officials 1570 01:31:12,990 --> 01:31:15,600 have traded threats of annihilation in recent weeks. 1571 01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:18,660 But Israel and US sources telling ABC News both Hezbollah 1572 01:31:18,660 --> 01:31:21,750 and Israel have essentially agreed to broad parameters of a 1573 01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:24,780 US brokered deal that would stave off a war Volker 1574 01:31:24,780 --> 01:31:27,870 agreement, Hizbollah said it cannot sign until there is a 1575 01:31:27,870 --> 01:31:32,670 ceasefire in Gaza. But in Gaza, no signs of a truce. Israel is 1576 01:31:32,670 --> 01:31:35,520 in its sixth day of a raid in the north, the fighting visible 1577 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:40,140 from nearby Israeli villages. We can hear the small arms fire now 1578 01:31:40,380 --> 01:31:43,350 taking place in Sharjah here there is a battle going on in 1579 01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:46,650 there in the southern part of the Gaza Strip. The IDF ordering 1580 01:31:46,650 --> 01:31:49,920 mass evacuations in the eastern part of HUD units, an estimated 1581 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,810 250,000 Gazans impacted women and children seem piled into 1582 01:31:54,810 --> 01:31:59,910 carts, many sleeping in the streets and law breaking down 1583 01:31:59,910 --> 01:32:03,030 from the fear and uncertainty saying I don't think it will 1584 01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:06,780 remain safe. We have been displaced multiple times with 1585 01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:09,540 the ceasefire talks are creaking ahead. One of the main sticking 1586 01:32:09,540 --> 01:32:12,240 points as we understand it is that Hamas wants a full 1587 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,420 withdrawal of Israeli troops. But Israeli official telling me 1588 01:32:15,420 --> 01:32:18,570 today that they intend to hold parts of the Gaza Strip for 1589 01:32:18,570 --> 01:32:19,170 months. 1590 01:32:20,220 --> 01:32:23,100 Adam Curry: Just keep it going was good. Send more stuff over 1591 01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:23,490 there. 1592 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,750 John C Dvorak: Here's the NTD version of the Hezbollah report. 1593 01:32:29,670 --> 01:32:32,970 Unknown: In Lebanon, an Israeli strike killed a senior Hezbollah 1594 01:32:32,970 --> 01:32:36,570 commander on Wednesday morning. Israel's defense minister says 1595 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,860 this about the escalating tensions in Lebanon, Hezbollah, 1596 01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:44,190 we are striking Hezbollah very hard every day, and we will also 1597 01:32:44,190 --> 01:32:47,820 reach a state of full readiness. We prefer an arrangement but if 1598 01:32:47,820 --> 01:32:51,180 reality forces us we will know how to fight and 1599 01:32:51,180 --> 01:32:54,720 in the West Bank for Gazans have been laid to rest after they 1600 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,650 were killed in an Israeli strike on Tuesday. The Israeli army 1601 01:32:58,650 --> 01:33:02,610 says the strike hit terrorists hiding in the area. Also in the 1602 01:33:02,610 --> 01:33:05,700 West Bank, a settlement tracking group on Wednesday said that 1603 01:33:05,700 --> 01:33:09,030 Israel approved the largest seizure of land in over three 1604 01:33:09,030 --> 01:33:12,930 decades, almost five square miles that's bigger than 2000 1605 01:33:12,930 --> 01:33:14,340 football fields combined. 1606 01:33:14,850 --> 01:33:19,170 Adam Curry: So once we have once we have Lebanon, which is of 1607 01:33:19,170 --> 01:33:22,770 course Hezbollah, then we only have a couple more on the west 1608 01:33:22,770 --> 01:33:27,990 Clarke seven. Sudan was always on the list. And there's news 1609 01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:29,850 from Sudan. Here's my Africa clip. 1610 01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,260 Unknown: Now to the continuing conflict in Sudan. The UN says 1611 01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:38,160 humanitarian agencies there have faced looting on an industrial 1612 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,920 scale since the Civil War between the army and the 1613 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,250 paramilitary group, the rapid support forces erupted more than 1614 01:33:44,250 --> 01:33:48,750 a year ago. The UN also says Starvation is being used as a 1615 01:33:48,750 --> 01:33:52,380 weapon of war in Sudan. It's been warning of an imminent 1616 01:33:52,380 --> 01:33:57,270 famine, with 25 million people urgently needing humanitarian 1617 01:33:57,270 --> 01:34:01,680 assistance. A senior UN official told the BBC that hundreds of 1618 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,470 millions of dollars worth of aid had been lost 1619 01:34:04,980 --> 01:34:08,790 Adam Curry: person same script as Gaza, whatever happened to 1620 01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:13,140 them dying of hunger in Gaza that left the scene. Remember 1621 01:34:13,140 --> 01:34:16,710 that? Damnit, their famine? Yeah, they were starving to 1622 01:34:16,710 --> 01:34:20,730 death. That's gone. And then Iran. We don't really know much 1623 01:34:20,730 --> 01:34:22,860 about the new the new puppy really 1624 01:34:22,860 --> 01:34:25,530 John C Dvorak: right curiously, that is gone. But also as the 1625 01:34:25,530 --> 01:34:30,720 peers gone. That thing's totally gone. And appear was to keep the 1626 01:34:30,750 --> 01:34:32,520 famine from happening supposedly, 1627 01:34:32,700 --> 01:34:34,590 Adam Curry: before famines over it's all it's all good. 1628 01:34:35,070 --> 01:34:35,850 John C Dvorak: How does that work? 1629 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:40,320 Adam Curry: So Iran? We got a new puppet incoming and there's 1630 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,340 a run off so we'll see. We don't know much about the about the 1631 01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:50,130 new guy. We'll find out. This is Reuters telling me they're not 1632 01:34:50,130 --> 01:34:52,530 using AI voices in this short clip 1633 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,700 Unknown: to Iran, where after an election campaign dominated by 1634 01:34:56,700 --> 01:35:02,070 hardliners moderate presidential hopeful sued possession has made 1635 01:35:02,070 --> 01:35:06,300 it into a runoff. The 69 year old was up against candidates 1636 01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:10,920 who more closely reflects the fiercely anti Western stance of 1637 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:15,660 Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali homenaje. Possession Qian 1638 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:20,190 narrowly be hardliner Saeed Jalili for first place, and they 1639 01:35:20,190 --> 01:35:23,220 now go to a runoff this Friday. I think 1640 01:35:23,220 --> 01:35:24,090 Adam Curry: that's AI. 1641 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,800 John C Dvorak: Well, the pronunciation of Hamid 1642 01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,410 Adam Curry: was good was good. It was awfully good 1643 01:35:31,410 --> 01:35:36,180 John C Dvorak: for AI flagging monotone style, that sounds very 1644 01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:39,300 much like AI, she should probably find some other work. 1645 01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:39,690 Then 1646 01:35:39,690 --> 01:35:43,380 Adam Curry: we have the final Theater, which is Ukraine, of 1647 01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:49,110 course that continues. Dead bodies everywhere, which we 1648 01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:54,480 never see. Don't show that on the news. Can't do that. Putin 1649 01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:58,860 made a statement about the possibility of a Trump becoming 1650 01:35:58,860 --> 01:36:00,570 president again. You know, the 1651 01:36:00,570 --> 01:36:04,800 Unknown: fact that got Mr. Trump as a presidential candidate, 1652 01:36:05,310 --> 01:36:08,910 says that he is ready and wants to stop. So you're in Ukraine, 1653 01:36:08,940 --> 01:36:15,000 we take that very seriously. No, I haven't seen his ideas on how 1654 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,660 exactly he's going to do that. And that is the strong key 1655 01:36:18,660 --> 01:36:22,950 questions. But I have no doubt that he says that sincerely. And 1656 01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:25,650 we support that. Yeah, Putin is open. 1657 01:36:27,180 --> 01:36:30,090 John C Dvorak: He's open that was read by the mainstream media 1658 01:36:30,090 --> 01:36:32,580 as Putin endorses Trump. 1659 01:36:34,650 --> 01:36:37,080 Adam Curry: Really? No, no, I didn't get that one. 1660 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:40,170 John C Dvorak: Yeah, somehow now that that means Putin is 1661 01:36:40,170 --> 01:36:42,780 endorsing trump the Russians those damn Russia makes 1662 01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:46,080 Adam Curry: nothing but sense. And with that happy news, I'd 1663 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,210 like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to 1664 01:36:48,210 --> 01:36:51,780 you the man who put the sea and Biden in a coma say hello to my 1665 01:36:51,780 --> 01:36:59,550 friend on the other end D one the only Mr. Johnson There we 1666 01:36:59,550 --> 01:36:59,850 go. 1667 01:37:01,230 --> 01:37:02,880 John C Dvorak: Yeah, in the morning, you Mr. Adam curry. 1668 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,580 Also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, 1669 01:37:05,850 --> 01:37:08,760 feet in the air, in the water and all the days and nights out 1670 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:09,180 there in 1671 01:37:09,180 --> 01:37:16,050 Adam Curry: the morning to the trolls and the troll. Yeah, it's 1672 01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:18,420 not surprising that we're a little bit lower. It is, of 1673 01:37:18,420 --> 01:37:22,530 course, Fourth of July weekend. Happy birthday, America. Still, 1674 01:37:22,590 --> 01:37:28,920 unbelievably, we have 1655, trolls and the troll room. I 1675 01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,080 see. Well, we have we have on the last reasonable for 1676 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:36,390 Thursday. Last Thursday, we had 1657. So we're only two down. 1677 01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:41,970 Wow. That's pretty good. Think about it. I'm glad. I'm glad to 1678 01:37:41,970 --> 01:37:44,850 see y'all here celebrating with us trolls. Thank you. And thank 1679 01:37:44,850 --> 01:37:48,150 you to Darren O'Neill for doing the doing the pre stream that 1680 01:37:48,150 --> 01:37:52,230 was quite nice that he got everybody ready for the big 1681 01:37:52,230 --> 01:38:00,930 show. This is our value for value proposition. Now you can 1682 01:38:00,930 --> 01:38:04,590 listen to it like the trolls are doing and contribute by trolling 1683 01:38:04,590 --> 01:38:08,820 along and they are usually quite helpful. They help us out with 1684 01:38:09,450 --> 01:38:12,510 real time fact checking, which is usually ignored. But you 1685 01:38:12,510 --> 01:38:15,510 know, one line is all kinds of good stuff comes through, you 1686 01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:18,690 can join them at troll room.io, which is our brand new 1687 01:38:18,690 --> 01:38:21,480 interface. There's no agenda stream, which is on 24 hours a 1688 01:38:21,480 --> 01:38:24,450 day. Or you can use a modern podcast app, but you can find it 1689 01:38:24,450 --> 01:38:28,830 podcast apps.com Go and pick one up like podcast guru. I've been 1690 01:38:28,830 --> 01:38:31,530 using that as my daily driver for a while I really like it. 1691 01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:36,420 And you'll get note. So somebody sent me screenshots and they 1692 01:38:36,420 --> 01:38:40,590 have like the Apple podcast app, and then somebody whose pod 1693 01:38:40,590 --> 01:38:45,120 verse or fountain or podcast guru. And you'll see that the 1694 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,810 the modern podcast apps notify you within 90 seconds of us 1695 01:38:48,810 --> 01:38:53,460 publishing it between 15 minutes and two to three hours before 1696 01:38:53,460 --> 01:38:59,280 any of those legacy apps actually notify you. And they 1697 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,310 could they could join in by the way. They're just too arrogant. 1698 01:39:02,580 --> 01:39:06,210 Like we're apple. We can't be a part of your system. You 1699 01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,790 John C Dvorak: know, it's not invented here. syndrome NIMBY. 1700 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,050 Adam Curry: Exactly. 1701 01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:13,380 John C Dvorak: No, that's not in my backyard. Yeah, well, same 1702 01:39:13,380 --> 01:39:15,720 thing. It's not in their backyard. Yeah, well, we 1703 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,250 Adam Curry: are in their backyard. We're breathing down 1704 01:39:17,250 --> 01:39:24,570 their neck podcast apps.com. We also know the New York Times is 1705 01:39:24,570 --> 01:39:28,980 now a new strategy for their podcast new strategy. We're 1706 01:39:28,980 --> 01:39:32,100 going to keep the ads but we're now also going to put it behind 1707 01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:32,580 a paywall you're 1708 01:39:32,580 --> 01:39:33,960 John C Dvorak: gonna drop the podcast 1709 01:39:34,770 --> 01:39:39,120 Adam Curry: it's just gonna be ads No, they've they're now 1710 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,690 putting cereal and check it out the daily the daily as their 1711 01:39:42,690 --> 01:39:45,990 daily news podcast Esther be hit. They're gonna put it behind 1712 01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:51,600 the paywall. Oh, that's dumb. Yes, it's the stupid they don't 1713 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:55,350 realize they don't get it. They're just like Howard Stern 1714 01:39:55,350 --> 01:39:59,040 and I would say to agree Joe Rogan when he went behind the 1715 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:03,480 Spotify paywall If you do lose some relevance, Howard Stern 1716 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:06,450 really lost relevance all together. I think Joe was, you 1717 01:40:06,450 --> 01:40:07,080 know, as good and 1718 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:07,770 John C Dvorak: lose money. 1719 01:40:08,700 --> 01:40:12,630 Adam Curry: But you know, okay, fine. But that just leaves us 1720 01:40:12,630 --> 01:40:17,970 out here to entertain the plebs. Which is fine by me, we just 1721 01:40:17,970 --> 01:40:22,320 pick up more because you can't have 20 subscriptions to all 1722 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,980 your favorite podcasts that just not going to work. The expensive 1723 01:40:26,010 --> 01:40:29,760 people can't even buy fireworks this year, to just light off 1724 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:33,390 willy nilly. So they're not going to do that. I think it's I 1725 01:40:33,390 --> 01:40:35,670 think it's a fundamental mistake, they should use that as 1726 01:40:35,670 --> 01:40:40,020 a loss leader to draw people in and give them special deals on 1727 01:40:40,020 --> 01:40:43,350 Wordle. Now, it's not like people subscribe for the news. 1728 01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:46,170 John C Dvorak: You're dead, right? If you are producing it, 1729 01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:50,730 which you're not no, that's exactly what you'd do. You would 1730 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,360 you would have it as it's not even a loss leader. You can run 1731 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,770 ads in it. They do. They can make money. Kinda they have an 1732 01:40:58,770 --> 01:41:02,190 advertising department that sells ads at the newspaper. You 1733 01:41:02,190 --> 01:41:05,850 can bundle it with the podcast ad. Yeah, so this so that 1734 01:41:05,850 --> 01:41:09,180 wouldn't even be a loss leader. Yeah, so the idea of putting it 1735 01:41:09,180 --> 01:41:12,570 behind a paywall is idiotic. What's the point? 1736 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,880 Adam Curry: And they're gonna keep running the ads behind the 1737 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,260 paywall? Can you believe so? There 1738 01:41:16,260 --> 01:41:18,870 John C Dvorak: you go. So, so now you're gonna get less 1739 01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:21,510 listenership? So the ads are less effective and the 1740 01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:24,450 advertisers are going to say what you don't know I'm not know 1741 01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,140 Adam Curry: and think about the meetings they're going to have 1742 01:41:28,140 --> 01:41:30,450 to have with the advertisers. Will 1743 01:41:30,450 --> 01:41:32,460 Unknown: you're not quite getting the reach you used to 1744 01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:34,740 when you were bow before when behind the paywall. 1745 01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:36,870 Adam Curry: Yeah, but these are qualified New York Times 1746 01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:39,720 listeners, or the ones that urinate on each other in San 1747 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,380 Francisco in the pool. Yeah, they're buyers. They got money. 1748 01:41:43,890 --> 01:41:48,210 They got lots of money. They got money to piss away, I tell you, 1749 01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:54,720 Oh, yeah, no, I did it. I did it. Instead, we we hate 1750 01:41:54,720 --> 01:42:01,290 meetings. We don't meet with each other. This is new. There 1751 01:42:01,290 --> 01:42:04,350 was a big article about value for value, which is quite nice. 1752 01:42:04,860 --> 01:42:12,330 Yeah, where's this? It was when I see. It was nice. As one thing 1753 01:42:12,330 --> 01:42:14,460 I didn't like about this article. Let me see if I can 1754 01:42:14,460 --> 01:42:17,490 find it real quick for you. Who wrote this thing? 1755 01:42:19,650 --> 01:42:21,780 John C Dvorak: Did they call you and get some bad get a comment? 1756 01:42:21,810 --> 01:42:22,140 No. 1757 01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:25,800 Adam Curry: No, they called other people course. Call me 1758 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:31,500 descript? Well, descript as it is actually. It's a very 1759 01:42:32,670 --> 01:42:38,550 successful editing program. And descript they use AI, you know? 1760 01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:43,470 And they had this whole article, what is value for value? Podcast 1761 01:42:43,470 --> 01:42:52,980 monetization? And should you do it? And so you know, the who 1762 01:42:52,980 --> 01:42:56,970 wrote this article, this was written by Courtney Kocak. She's 1763 01:42:56,970 --> 01:43:00,690 pretty successful, successful podcaster. And it talks about 1764 01:43:00,690 --> 01:43:04,290 time, talent and treasure, your value for value as listeners to 1765 01:43:04,290 --> 01:43:07,350 reciprocate the value they received from podcast with time, 1766 01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:08,910 talent or treasure. Time. 1767 01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:11,790 John C Dvorak: They even use our day use our catchphrases, so she 1768 01:43:11,790 --> 01:43:14,250 obviously gave us a big plug in that thing didn't she didn't 1769 01:43:14,250 --> 01:43:15,330 like in the write up? She 1770 01:43:15,330 --> 01:43:20,700 Adam Curry: did. She did. Okay. crediting Adam curry. Um, I 1771 01:43:20,700 --> 01:43:24,780 can't that didn't say Jhansi Dvorak podcast, good podcast 1772 01:43:24,780 --> 01:43:25,830 things inventors. He 1773 01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:28,350 John C Dvorak: has some crush on you with pioneering 1774 01:43:28,350 --> 01:43:31,950 Adam Curry: value for value through his show his his show. 1775 01:43:32,970 --> 01:43:34,680 John C Dvorak: I'm not even in the picture anymore. 1776 01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:41,700 Adam Curry: The show has thrived on direct audience support for 1777 01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:46,110 over 15 years. It's almost 17 Without any advertising. So 1778 01:43:46,110 --> 01:43:50,010 curry is a big proponent and success story for the audience 1779 01:43:50,010 --> 01:43:56,340 support. So what was this woman's name? Courtney, Courtney 1780 01:43:56,370 --> 01:44:04,650 Kocak. But Courtney colpack co CACs. Kaos Kocak Co. Ca K. But 1781 01:44:04,650 --> 01:44:12,270 here's the part that I didn't like see, I'm going down here. 1782 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:20,280 No, I must have skipped over it. The Origins Yeah, okay. Okay. 1783 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:27,900 But, but Adam curry isn't the sole mastermind behind value for 1784 01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:31,470 value. This is obviously where they should have brought in John 1785 01:44:31,470 --> 01:44:37,380 C. Dvorak. Nope. Many people believe founding wire editor 1786 01:44:37,380 --> 01:44:44,100 Kevin Kelly's seminal blog post 1000 true fans was the catalyst 1787 01:44:44,670 --> 01:44:49,530 for value for value. What I'm gonna go look at this blog post. 1788 01:44:49,530 --> 01:44:55,710 When was this posted? This blog post was was posted in 2008. So 1789 01:44:55,710 --> 01:45:00,150 it was around the same time. Although we were earlier With 1790 01:45:00,150 --> 01:45:06,810 our value for you probably lifted it from us I know I think 1791 01:45:07,020 --> 01:45:09,630 I didn't like that I didn't like that was like 1792 01:45:10,230 --> 01:45:13,860 John C Dvorak: Kelly was Kelly is named Courtney Courtney Coke, 1793 01:45:13,890 --> 01:45:16,380 Coca Cola. You'll see, like, let's 1794 01:45:16,380 --> 01:45:18,060 Adam Curry: see what she's about. There's a link here. 1795 01:45:18,090 --> 01:45:22,320 Courtney Kocak founder and host of podcast. Bestie 1796 01:45:23,550 --> 01:45:24,450 John C Dvorak: like, has what? 1797 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:31,230 Adam Curry: Podcast bestie you know, like she's my bestie John, 1798 01:45:31,230 --> 01:45:33,660 John C Dvorak: you're my podcast. Bestie Yes. 1799 01:45:34,500 --> 01:45:38,250 Adam Curry: Los Angeles based writer podcaster and comedian. 1800 01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,600 John C Dvorak: So the comedian with a podcast. She does 1801 01:45:42,630 --> 01:45:44,400 Adam Curry: do her podcast value for value 1802 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,560 John C Dvorak: though. I'll give her that. Really good. Good for 1803 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:46,710 her. 1804 01:45:46,740 --> 01:45:50,370 Adam Curry: Yeah, she's she's your John. She's your podcast. 1805 01:45:50,370 --> 01:45:56,730 John C Dvorak: Bestie you're underwhelmed a hater. 1806 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,120 Adam Curry: You don't actually hate anybody? I 1807 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,510 John C Dvorak: do. I hate her. I mean, she's a phony. That's the 1808 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:05,460 right way I see it. Well, I 1809 01:46:05,460 --> 01:46:08,190 Adam Curry: think it's despicable. Because if anyone 1810 01:46:08,190 --> 01:46:13,860 had spoken to me, I would, of course, said We and our we, we 1811 01:46:13,860 --> 01:46:18,030 pioneered created and develop the name, certainly the name. 1812 01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:23,520 The idea, the idea also, and we have a whole genesis for it. It 1813 01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,720 was an accidental discovery, almost like dynamite or 1814 01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:31,980 nitroglycerin. And I would have said our podcast, I never I 1815 01:46:31,980 --> 01:46:36,210 never would let that dangle out there. That's just rude. Which 1816 01:46:36,210 --> 01:46:39,570 also means she probably has never listened. I'm guessing 1817 01:46:39,570 --> 01:46:41,910 John C Dvorak: she's never listened to the podcast. And 1818 01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:45,510 she's just, I don't know where she got the idea that it's a 1819 01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:48,510 solo. She makes it sound like a solo podcast. Yeah, it's not. 1820 01:46:48,630 --> 01:46:50,880 Sometimes it is. But just generally, no, 1821 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,190 Adam Curry: it's not right. I mean, the only thing that it 1822 01:46:53,190 --> 01:46:55,410 would she would have made only worse if she'd added Kara 1823 01:46:55,410 --> 01:46:58,230 Swisher into the mix, that would have made it worse. She didn't 1824 01:46:58,230 --> 01:47:02,550 do that luckily. So for those of you who have read that article, 1825 01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:04,860 have tuned in here, let's show you how it really works. Because 1826 01:47:04,860 --> 01:47:08,940 we have actual true value for values, not Patreon. Patreon is 1827 01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:12,660 not value provided that's levels and subscriptions. Now we leave 1828 01:47:12,660 --> 01:47:14,880 it up to people to send us whatever they think the show was 1829 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:19,530 worth. And however they want to contribute back value. Show me 1830 01:47:19,530 --> 01:47:23,310 one other podcast that has its its entire infrastructure, all 1831 01:47:23,310 --> 01:47:27,060 its websites managed by the officer didn't put in there. We 1832 01:47:27,060 --> 01:47:31,560 don't have listeners. We're not fans, we have fans. Our fans 1833 01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,320 don't support the show. We have producers who create this with 1834 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,790 us together. Give us boots on the ground clips, information 1835 01:47:38,820 --> 01:47:42,720 insight. Because everyone is an expert at something. That's what 1836 01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,380 makes this podcast the best podcast in the universe. And we 1837 01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:51,660 also have artists and not not just artists, Dutch masters, 1838 01:47:52,140 --> 01:47:55,620 Dutch masters who create art for us for every single episode 1839 01:47:55,740 --> 01:47:59,580 1020 30 pieces sometimes for us to choose from and select the 1840 01:47:59,610 --> 01:48:04,500 absolute creme de la creme, such as Dame Kenny, Ben's excellent 1841 01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:09,330 Biden off the rails train art for Episode 1673, which we 1842 01:48:09,330 --> 01:48:12,690 titled mummy in the dummy. You'd love the train picture. You 1843 01:48:12,690 --> 01:48:18,000 hated the title. You actually said You owe me one for that. 1844 01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:21,270 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I did do that. I didn't like the title. 1845 01:48:21,930 --> 01:48:26,970 But I relented. And the train art I did like it was the first 1846 01:48:26,970 --> 01:48:31,170 thing I saw on so this is just I saw it actually. During our 1847 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,550 previous segment it did was it lingered. She got it in early. 1848 01:48:35,580 --> 01:48:39,990 Yeah, she did. And yeah, it does. It says the whole thing. 1849 01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:41,700 Train going off the 1850 01:48:41,700 --> 01:48:44,310 Adam Curry: rails. It was it was perfect. What else was there? 1851 01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:44,910 There was? 1852 01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:46,710 John C Dvorak: No, it wasn't anything else really? 1853 01:48:49,230 --> 01:48:53,190 Adam Curry: Wow, there really wasn't. It was actually less 1854 01:48:53,190 --> 01:48:55,620 than than normal selection. 1855 01:48:55,860 --> 01:48:58,290 John C Dvorak: I think the reason? I'll tell you what I 1856 01:48:58,290 --> 01:49:02,700 think. I think the artists look at the art before they start, 1857 01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:04,650 just submit and they saw that piece. 1858 01:49:04,650 --> 01:49:07,050 Adam Curry: Oh, and they went That's it? I'm done. I'm toast. 1859 01:49:07,050 --> 01:49:09,330 I can't be there. Not even not even going to try it. Yeah, I 1860 01:49:09,330 --> 01:49:11,430 think you're right, that does happen. That does happen. 1861 01:49:11,460 --> 01:49:12,900 Definitely. That's 1862 01:49:12,900 --> 01:49:15,180 John C Dvorak: what happens when a good piece comes in early. If 1863 01:49:15,180 --> 01:49:19,470 she had put the piece in late, we would have had a lot more 1864 01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:19,770 art. 1865 01:49:19,860 --> 01:49:21,960 Adam Curry: And also I'll say that's not that artists are 1866 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,570 wrong. It's not entirely true in this case, ya 1867 01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:26,550 John C Dvorak: know, they're all there. I think they're wrong 1868 01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:28,710 most of the time. That's why they're artists and not art 1869 01:49:28,710 --> 01:49:33,660 directors. And and if you remember during the era and the 1870 01:49:33,660 --> 01:49:39,120 heyday of the no agenda, forums, not formed. 1871 01:49:39,690 --> 01:49:40,620 Adam Curry: Thought you were gonna say no 1872 01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:43,530 John C Dvorak: agenda, no agenda, whatever social that 1873 01:49:43,530 --> 01:49:47,610 yes, yeah. Did that website. Yes. In the heyday of that, the 1874 01:49:47,610 --> 01:49:50,940 artists had this little clique and they would pre predict what 1875 01:49:50,970 --> 01:49:54,240 they thought was going to win and they were continually wrong. 1876 01:49:55,140 --> 01:49:57,780 They were all in there saying I think your piece is the best 1877 01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:00,780 ever. You're complimented bunch of You know, they're they're 1878 01:50:00,810 --> 01:50:03,810 blowing each other and they're talking about their art and they 1879 01:50:03,810 --> 01:50:06,900 were always wrong we always pick something generally different. 1880 01:50:07,919 --> 01:50:09,089 Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate that they 1881 01:50:09,090 --> 01:50:13,440 John C Dvorak: don't have the taste of an artist necessarily. 1882 01:50:14,430 --> 01:50:15,930 They're just artists, artists or artists, 1883 01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,900 Adam Curry: all of them all of them are artists all of them are 1884 01:50:19,230 --> 01:50:23,970 appreciated and loved. We we really do love what you do and 1885 01:50:24,270 --> 01:50:26,670 and we even love going like ah that's a horrible piece but we 1886 01:50:26,670 --> 01:50:30,870 love that person. We say that frequently now. I really love 1887 01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:32,970 that person but that artists just not going to fly 1888 01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:36,060 John C Dvorak: yet you do that with Darren? Yes, 1889 01:50:36,210 --> 01:50:38,400 Adam Curry: all the time. And Darren just wants to hear us 1890 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:39,600 talk about him that's all that's 1891 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,180 John C Dvorak: there and put always puts in a reasonable 1892 01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:44,610 piece that could be used so always use it 1893 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,180 Adam Curry: Yeah. He that is exactly dairies Mr. usable. 1894 01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:52,680 If if I had a radio station, you know back in the day when it 1895 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:56,250 mattered, I would have Darren on staff because you can say Darren 1896 01:50:57,540 --> 01:51:00,600 it's the someone Someone dropped out of the midnight shift you're 1897 01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,900 in Darren the morning the morning zoo guy is out Darren 1898 01:51:03,900 --> 01:51:09,240 urine, Darren can do it all. He really can is amazing 1899 01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:10,080 multitalented 1900 01:51:10,110 --> 01:51:12,930 John C Dvorak: I agree he's very is incredibly talented. Yes. 1901 01:51:13,710 --> 01:51:17,670 Adam Curry: He's no Dutch Master, though. That kind of 1902 01:51:17,700 --> 01:51:20,700 that's what separates all of these. These artists that 1903 01:51:20,700 --> 01:51:23,910 usually when go to no agenda, art generator.com. You can see 1904 01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:26,550 all of the art, you can even participate. You can create an 1905 01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:30,120 account you can upload you can play along. And if you're using 1906 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,120 a modern podcast app, check out the chapters look at what Dred 1907 01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:36,480 Scott does. He uses a lot of different pieces from the Art 1908 01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:39,480 Generator in the chapter. So really, everybody wins. There's 1909 01:51:39,480 --> 01:51:44,340 no losers. Part of the value for value model is we want you to 1910 01:51:44,340 --> 01:51:48,690 send us treasure. We appreciate whatever the amount is, that is 1911 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,360 equals the value that you get from the show. That's very 1912 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,450 simple how it works. No one can look into your pocketbook. So 1913 01:51:54,450 --> 01:51:57,150 whatever you're handing out, we just presume it's what you think 1914 01:51:57,150 --> 01:52:00,840 the show was worth. We do have some extra love for executive 1915 01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,810 and Associate Executive producers who come in $200 Above 1916 01:52:03,810 --> 01:52:06,660 we read your note $300 above for an executive producer ship 1917 01:52:06,660 --> 01:52:10,890 credit. And we read your note as well and we want to highlight 1918 01:52:10,890 --> 01:52:13,410 them just like Hollywood earlier on in the show and we kick it 1919 01:52:13,410 --> 01:52:17,070 off today with Anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina. Who 1920 01:52:17,070 --> 01:52:24,600 comes in with 74142 So what is what is that some kind of oh 1921 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:29,700 it's 704 33 plus fees. And anonymous says Happy Fourth of 1922 01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:35,430 July gents here 704 dot 33 plus fees to mark the occasion. July 1923 01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:39,120 4 Obviously thank you for the outstanding product anonymous 1924 01:52:39,480 --> 01:52:42,090 and we say thank you and Happy Fourth of July. 1925 01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,920 John C Dvorak: Sir IQ bot is next he comes in from Lake 1926 01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:52,170 Forest Washington at three three 3.34 in the morning, Kevin 1927 01:52:52,170 --> 01:52:55,770 McLaughlin is truly a great American and I'm proud to sit at 1928 01:52:55,770 --> 01:53:03,600 the same round table as him Jay. Jingle requests Raven JCD boobs. 1929 01:53:05,130 --> 01:53:09,120 Patriot karma Please don't hurt the baby seals are a Gabon of 1930 01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:13,770 the bike path. Gorbel in stone it says is in Lake Forest, 1931 01:53:13,770 --> 01:53:19,440 Washington but it's actually in stove Vermont he moved. Grade 1932 01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:24,600 from receita here she is gray man give it up. 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All 1944 01:54:07,770 --> 01:54:11,400 right, you're always there to spin us down after the fear 1945 01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:15,720 mongering media spins us up. That's right. Please stop 1946 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:23,580 looking for exit strategies. PS. I 100% underlined. Agree. 1947 01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:28,890 Kristi. noem doesn't want to be VP even someone who puffs their 1948 01:54:28,890 --> 01:54:37,230 lips up to balloons Yes. knows to leave pets out of the mix. 1949 01:54:38,130 --> 01:54:39,840 Anonymous in Sioux Falls 1950 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,700 Adam Curry: will give you a Karma anonymous Thank you you've 1951 01:54:44,700 --> 01:54:54,570 got karma crazy puffs you're gonna get an excellent yeah 1952 01:54:54,630 --> 01:54:56,490 John C Dvorak: yeah, you're unsure here heist. 1953 01:54:56,550 --> 01:55:01,530 Adam Curry: Okay, sir hair he'll Oh, hi. Freeze when I say heist 1954 01:55:01,530 --> 01:55:05,160 I don't know you're insane sir hair he'll White Salmon, 1955 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:09,690 Washington 333 jobs karma and F cancer please. Well, we got that 1956 01:55:09,690 --> 01:55:10,140 for you. 1957 01:55:13,889 --> 01:55:17,429 Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs 1958 01:55:18,270 --> 01:55:25,440 John C Dvorak: for jobs. Name Kelly in Sayville, New York 248. 1959 01:55:27,060 --> 01:55:31,200 And she rise to 40 which is first Associate Executive 1960 01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,950 Producer. Happy Fourth of July John and Adam. Here's 248 For 1961 01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:38,070 Americans 22 under 48th Birthday ah, there was the gimmick we 1962 01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:41,190 missed. That's right, or I missed. This brings me to bear 1963 01:55:41,190 --> 01:55:45,330 in net test status. Thanks for Thanks and enjoy the day. Love 1964 01:55:45,330 --> 01:55:48,390 you guys. Dame Kelly have the longest Island. 1965 01:55:48,690 --> 01:55:51,300 Adam Curry: Well, thank you very much Dame Kelly, and we'll see 1966 01:55:51,300 --> 01:55:54,960 you what the upgrade table later. Yeah, you know, you sent 1967 01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,690 me the text for the newsletter and never came in. And then I 1968 01:55:57,690 --> 01:56:03,420 realized that my entire inbox had gone away. And somehow, my 1969 01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:08,100 Thunderbird had had marked everything as spam. So that's 1970 01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:12,600 why I never never saw it. But people came up with it 1971 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,150 themselves like Sir Scott and Dame Elizabeth from Gardner, 1972 01:56:15,150 --> 01:56:20,850 Kansas. 248 ITM John and Adam, since you're both working on 1973 01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:24,270 another holiday, the Fourth of July we tend to do that. It was 1974 01:56:24,270 --> 01:56:28,410 time to contribute to the holiday. I guess. It was time to 1975 01:56:28,410 --> 01:56:30,840 contribute to the no agenda cause please accept this 1976 01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:35,160 donation of 248 to commemorate 248 years since America declared 1977 01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:40,200 its independence. That is if you use 1776 as the date thank you 1978 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:45,060 all. Thank you for all that both that you both do to keep us sane 1979 01:56:45,330 --> 01:56:48,840 in these trying times sir Scott protector of the hobby farm and 1980 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:52,890 Dame Elizabeth in Gardner, Kansas and they wanted the cat 1981 01:56:53,070 --> 01:56:58,260 kettle calling the pot jingle and I happen to have that one 1982 01:56:58,290 --> 01:57:06,480 here. Hello, kettle, this is the pot calling. There you go. 1983 01:57:07,950 --> 01:57:11,520 John C Dvorak: You got it. You know it should have been I did 1984 01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:15,270 this in a couple of newsletters. I think the one from 2017 I 1985 01:57:15,270 --> 01:57:18,780 should have done it again. Which is the fourth of July should 1986 01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:20,550 have been the second of July. 1987 01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:24,690 Adam Curry: That's correct celebrations. Yes. Erica 1988 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:29,280 John C Dvorak: Erica. coaching coaching in Marietta, Georgia, 1989 01:57:29,340 --> 01:57:34,800 cool chick maybe coaching this guest who's to 1060 high IQ 1990 01:57:34,890 --> 01:57:39,360 comrades. It's that time of the year where my human resource 1991 01:57:39,390 --> 01:57:42,570 Hogan celebrates his birthday. He'll be eighth on the fourth 1992 01:57:42,570 --> 01:57:48,690 fifth. timezone problems when you're both in China, China, 1993 01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:54,450 China, China, China, China. He loves his uncle John and Adam, 1994 01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:57,270 and still thinks everything's a scam. 1995 01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,530 Adam Curry: He's gonna go far in life. No doubt. 1996 01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,160 John C Dvorak: It's my guess. All right. Good boy. 1997 01:58:05,940 --> 01:58:08,100 Adam Curry: Eli, the coffee guy is still in Bensenville 1998 01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:13,200 Illinois. 20704. Another variation of the Fourth of July. 1999 01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:17,460 Thank you. He says to John Adam and all of Gitmo nation. Happy 2000 01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:21,030 Independence Day. Since the Sons of Liberty first threw tea into 2001 01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:23,970 the Boston Harbor. Coffee has been the morning beverage of 2002 01:58:23,970 --> 01:58:28,410 America. As patriotic drink today as it was then you should 2003 01:58:28,410 --> 01:58:32,430 visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code ITM 20 2004 01:58:32,430 --> 01:58:36,330 for 20% off your order. Can I get the Team America jingle stay 2005 01:58:36,330 --> 01:58:38,880 caffeinated Eli, the coffee guy. There's 2006 01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,130 Unknown: a need for a rescue mission. When the world is 2007 01:58:41,130 --> 01:58:44,460 threatened. The world needs help calls on America 2008 01:58:50,820 --> 01:58:53,520 Adam Curry: and that's the story classic classic Eli 2009 01:58:53,610 --> 01:58:57,300 John C Dvorak: and that's the story. And here's the last story 2010 01:58:57,300 --> 01:59:01,830 which is our last donor shirts actually a short list. Now Linda 2011 01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:04,860 LAPACK in Lakewood, Colorado, of course, she comes in and asks 2012 01:59:04,860 --> 01:59:07,920 for jobs current $200 for a resume that gets results she 2013 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,250 writes. Go to Image makers inc.com For all your executive 2014 01:59:11,250 --> 01:59:14,790 resume and job search needs and work with Linda Lou duchez of 2015 01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:18,570 jobs and writer of resumes. Thanks for the jingles and shout 2016 01:59:18,570 --> 01:59:24,060 outs. 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Do you remember Do you remember that? I talked to 2028 02:00:30,899 --> 02:00:35,369 my my pals about, about that need the testing industrial 2029 02:00:35,369 --> 02:00:36,269 complex? 2030 02:00:37,290 --> 02:00:38,700 John C Dvorak: Health efficient sufficient are your testing 2031 02:00:38,700 --> 02:00:39,390 buddies? Yeah, my 2032 02:00:39,390 --> 02:00:41,670 Adam Curry: testing buddies. And do you remember what you 2033 02:00:41,670 --> 02:00:44,460 remember? I was like, Okay, well, is it bird flu? Is it bird 2034 02:00:44,460 --> 02:00:49,230 flu is this is all going to be bird flu? And they said, No. Do 2035 02:00:49,230 --> 02:00:50,610 you remember what they did say? 2036 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:54,690 John C Dvorak: What they did say what they 2037 02:00:54,690 --> 02:00:58,140 Adam Curry: did say what they did say is that the CDC was 2038 02:00:58,140 --> 02:00:59,670 hyping Dengue fever. 2039 02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,330 John C Dvorak: No. Yes. Right. And yeah, dengue was was 2040 02:01:03,330 --> 02:01:06,120 mentioned. And that's when I came up with my aspirin 2041 02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:07,410 anecdote. Yes. 2042 02:01:07,410 --> 02:01:09,780 Adam Curry: Don't take aspirin if you have dengue fever. Well, 2043 02:01:09,990 --> 02:01:13,230 your anecdote is more relevant than ever. And a new 2044 02:01:13,230 --> 02:01:16,620 Unknown: warning from the CDC, there's been a surge of dengue 2045 02:01:16,620 --> 02:01:19,950 fever around the world. And that's increasing the risk of it 2046 02:01:19,950 --> 02:01:23,640 spreading here in the US. Global cases of the mosquito borne 2047 02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:27,870 disease hit record numbers this year, countries in the Americas 2048 02:01:27,870 --> 02:01:32,370 are reporting twice as many cases then in all of 2023. And 2049 02:01:32,370 --> 02:01:36,600 now health officials in Florida, stop twice 2050 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:40,050 John C Dvorak: as many, twice as many go from one to do is to 2051 02:01:40,050 --> 02:01:43,290 Adam Curry: go from four to eight. We don't know but what 2052 02:01:43,290 --> 02:01:43,680 did it go 2053 02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:47,190 John C Dvorak: from? 1000 to 2000. I mean, twice as many as 2054 02:01:47,190 --> 02:01:48,570 meaningless urging 2055 02:01:48,570 --> 02:01:51,270 Adam Curry: John didn't you hear the beginning? It's surging, 2056 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:58,350 it's surging. I just love that that this obvious setup was 2057 02:01:58,350 --> 02:02:02,670 known to us two weeks ago. Oh, no. The CDC is going to come out 2058 02:02:02,670 --> 02:02:05,970 with dengue fever. And thank you, CBS countries 2059 02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,520 Unknown: in the Americans are reporting twice as many cases 2060 02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:12,840 then in all of 2023. And now health officials in Florida are 2061 02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:16,080 urging the public to take extra precautions, like wearing bug 2062 02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,570 spray, and dumping out standing water. 2063 02:02:19,290 --> 02:02:21,270 Adam Curry: That's interesting. I'll come back to that in a 2064 02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:24,690 moment after we talked to Dr. Celine gounder. Joining me 2065 02:02:24,690 --> 02:02:28,110 Unknown: now is the editor at large for public health at kff. 2066 02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:31,320 And CBS News Medical contributor, Dr. Celine gounder. 2067 02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:34,710 Always great seeing you, doctor. So what do we know about how 2068 02:02:34,710 --> 02:02:38,220 Dengue fever is spreading? And what are some of the potential 2069 02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:40,560 risks associated with this virus? 2070 02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:45,090 Dengue fever spreads by mosquito bites. And part of what we're 2071 02:02:45,090 --> 02:02:48,990 seeing now is with climate change with increasing areas of 2072 02:02:48,990 --> 02:02:52,740 hot humid, which are friendly to mosquitoes where mosquitoes 2073 02:02:52,740 --> 02:02:55,440 breed, we're seeing more transmission of dengue. And so 2074 02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:58,770 we've seen a huge outbreak in Latin America over the last 2075 02:02:58,770 --> 02:03:01,920 several months. There are pretty United States that are also at 2076 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:06,480 risk a ticular, the Gulf Coast, Florida, Texas, parts of 2077 02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,300 southern California. What protects us here in the United 2078 02:03:09,300 --> 02:03:14,340 States against dengue is people generally live in better homes, 2079 02:03:14,340 --> 02:03:17,220 better housing, where you have screened windows, you have air 2080 02:03:17,220 --> 02:03:20,790 conditioning, and so you have less exposure to mosquitoes in 2081 02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:25,080 your home. But this is not a benign illness. People can 2082 02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:29,730 develop very high fevers, headaches, vomiting, shock, 2083 02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,400 where your blood pressure drops dramatically. And without 2084 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:37,380 treatment, about 15% of people who get Dengue can die. So 2085 02:03:38,010 --> 02:03:41,220 Adam Curry: very interesting is blamed on of course, climate 2086 02:03:41,220 --> 02:03:44,040 change. We all knew that climate change will be responsible for 2087 02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:48,420 the next pandemic, pandemic. But I just want to take us because 2088 02:03:48,420 --> 02:03:52,200 they mentioned Florida, the Gulf Coast, Florida, Florida, 2089 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,530 Florida, the Gulf Coast, Florida, southern part of Texas, 2090 02:03:55,530 --> 02:04:01,440 Florida, huh. My memory does go back at least two years 2022. 2091 02:04:02,220 --> 02:04:03,480 Since 2021, 2092 02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:06,750 Unknown: UK based biotech company Oxitec has released 2093 02:04:06,750 --> 02:04:10,590 millions of genetically modified male Aedes aegypti mosquitoes in 2094 02:04:10,590 --> 02:04:11,640 the Florida Keys. 2095 02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:12,750 Adam Curry: Remember that? 2096 02:04:14,010 --> 02:04:16,320 John C Dvorak: Yeah, no one ever Bill Gates project. 2097 02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:19,020 Adam Curry: It sure is. No one ever questions that nonsense 2098 02:04:19,020 --> 02:04:23,430 they did. I thought that that was supposed to stop mosquitoes 2099 02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:27,510 from spreading things like Dengue fever, as well. That was 2100 02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:27,600 the 2101 02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:28,560 John C Dvorak: idea, wasn't it? Yeah. 2102 02:04:28,590 --> 02:04:30,840 Adam Curry: That was the idea. How'd that work out? Bill Gates 2103 02:04:31,770 --> 02:04:37,800 has just just subjected the entire Gulf Coast population to 2104 02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:41,940 Dengue fever. Don't take aspirin. How do you know when 2105 02:04:41,940 --> 02:04:47,070 you have dengue and shouldn't take aspirin? You have to be 2106 02:04:47,070 --> 02:04:56,640 tested. Oh, yeah, I love it. We got Testing, testing. Another 2107 02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:59,790 thing you should never do, and I'd love to hear your input on 2108 02:04:59,790 --> 02:05:03,270 this John, you should never eat the plane on the food, the food 2109 02:05:03,270 --> 02:05:03,870 on the plane. 2110 02:05:04,230 --> 02:05:07,770 John C Dvorak: You shouldn't eat to play ever needs to play. Can 2111 02:05:07,770 --> 02:05:10,110 Unknown: you confirm that none of the pilots ate any of this. 2112 02:05:10,650 --> 02:05:14,040 It was not a great start to the holiday for passengers on Delta 2113 02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,700 flight 136 from Detroit to Amsterdam. They ended up in New 2114 02:05:17,700 --> 02:05:21,000 York early this morning after at least a dozen people got sick 2115 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:24,390 from eating chicken apparently contaminated with mold. 2116 02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:29,490 Medical personnel should be standing by delta says it 2117 02:05:29,490 --> 02:05:32,340 sincerely apologizes for that incident dude 2118 02:05:32,340 --> 02:05:34,620 Adam Curry: that could have been made. Could have been me. I 2119 02:05:34,620 --> 02:05:39,240 never I never eat chicken on the plane every gentleman like yeah, 2120 02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:42,510 12 people got food poisoning and they had to go back that's like, 2121 02:05:42,540 --> 02:05:45,360 oh, gotta go back. People are puking all over the place. It's 2122 02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:45,990 horrible. 2123 02:05:46,020 --> 02:05:48,030 John C Dvorak: That was pretty fast acting. 2124 02:05:49,740 --> 02:05:51,840 Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. You don't think it would act it 2125 02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:53,400 would happen that fast? No, 2126 02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:57,210 John C Dvorak: it doesn't. You don't fast acting is not caused 2127 02:05:57,210 --> 02:06:01,110 by just as well a mold. I don't know. I just very fast acting 2128 02:06:01,110 --> 02:06:04,470 food poisoning usually takes a while. I got the only time I 2129 02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:09,510 really got sick in the last 2030 years was from a flight back 2130 02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:13,200 from Mexico City is eaten fine in Mexico. And then on the 2131 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:20,310 flight back. I had some I think spoiled fruit. Oh, no. It was a 2132 02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:24,120 mistake. Yeah. Always says you always have to travel advice. It 2133 02:06:24,150 --> 02:06:25,320 could be a tip of the day. 2134 02:06:26,010 --> 02:06:28,200 Adam Curry: Oh, they say I know I know what it is. And it's a 2135 02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:30,720 great tip of the day and I think you should save it. This 2136 02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:34,110 John C Dvorak: is a very big today's tip of the day of the 2137 02:06:34,110 --> 02:06:36,510 show and it will be a travel travelers 2138 02:06:36,510 --> 02:06:39,330 Adam Curry: Tip of the Day. Exactly. Now there was no word 2139 02:06:39,330 --> 02:06:42,030 whether this United of this Delta Flight was a Boeing or not 2140 02:06:42,060 --> 02:06:44,070 doesn't matter. We got plenty of Boeing problems. 2141 02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:45,780 Unknown: Okay, news to tell you about the Federal Aviation 2142 02:06:45,780 --> 02:06:48,750 Administration investigating after United Airlines Flight 2143 02:06:48,750 --> 02:06:52,920 returned to O'Hare shortly after takeoff today. United flight 343 2144 02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:56,040 had been heading for San Francisco, but the Boeing 737 2145 02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,850 started experiencing issues with cabin pressure. Nobody got hurt. 2146 02:07:00,090 --> 02:07:03,180 The plane landed safely back at O'Hare around noon. Of course, 2147 02:07:03,180 --> 02:07:03,390 no 2148 02:07:03,390 --> 02:07:07,080 Adam Curry: actual news that the mask drop was a depressurization 2149 02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:10,410 events, you know when they don't want to tell us anything. But 2150 02:07:10,410 --> 02:07:13,590 that doesn't really matter, because the best Boeing news has 2151 02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:17,520 got to be the astronauts in space. Have you been? Have you 2152 02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:17,760 been? 2153 02:07:18,450 --> 02:07:22,200 John C Dvorak: You? Right? This is? Yeah, I'm actually remiss 2154 02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:28,980 for not having a clip of it. You know what's gonna well? Alright, 2155 02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:29,340 good. So 2156 02:07:29,370 --> 02:07:32,100 Unknown: the Starliner deed is a capsule that can dock with the 2157 02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:35,640 International Space Station and set to become a sort of space 2158 02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:38,370 taxi, if you will to bring astronauts up there into the 2159 02:07:38,370 --> 02:07:42,630 ISS. Now, back in 2014, NASA actually ordered two of those 2160 02:07:42,630 --> 02:07:46,470 vehicles, both to Boeing and SpaceX. And the idea was to be 2161 02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:49,080 able to really alternate flights between both companies now 2162 02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:52,530 SpaceX, as usual, delivered very quickly with the Crew Dragon. 2163 02:07:52,530 --> 02:07:56,160 It's been operational for four years now. But Boeing's program 2164 02:07:56,190 --> 02:07:59,580 fell behind in a big way. And finally, on June 5, indeed, the 2165 02:07:59,580 --> 02:08:03,660 Starliner was able to take off from Florida. The goal of this 2166 02:08:03,660 --> 02:08:05,730 first mission was really to demonstrate that this vehicle 2167 02:08:05,730 --> 02:08:08,550 created by Boeing was safe and was capable of bringing the 2168 02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:11,880 astronauts up there on board, you have two astronauts Butch 2169 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:16,200 Wilmore and Serena Williams. The test was indeed supposed to last 2170 02:08:16,230 --> 02:08:21,450 about a week. And it has been extended due to a slow helium 2171 02:08:21,450 --> 02:08:24,570 leak in the spacecraft propulsion system. Now, NASA and 2172 02:08:24,570 --> 02:08:27,300 Boeing actually knew about this leak before takeoff. But for 2173 02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:29,640 some reason, I don't know how but they initially believed it 2174 02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:33,210 wouldn't affect the test mission and the astronauts safety. 2175 02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,550 And we don't know actually, when either of them are going to be 2176 02:08:35,550 --> 02:08:37,590 able to come back here to plan this right. It 2177 02:08:37,590 --> 02:08:40,260 sounds quite incredible. But since June 6, they've already 2178 02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:43,260 changed twice the date of their return to Earth. So at first, 2179 02:08:44,730 --> 02:08:49,230 NASA said they could return by the end of but by mid July, but 2180 02:08:49,230 --> 02:08:51,930 then later, NASA's program boss, Steve stitch said that he was 2181 02:08:51,930 --> 02:08:55,020 verifying that Starliner is batteries could have a little 2182 02:08:55,020 --> 02:08:58,170 bit more autonomy, and perhaps three months to talk. And this 2183 02:08:58,170 --> 02:09:01,140 is what prompted people to think that, you know, NASA wasn't 2184 02:09:01,140 --> 02:09:04,680 rolling out the return by the end of August. And for now, NASA 2185 02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,140 and Boeing says there is no there's absolutely no issue 2186 02:09:07,140 --> 02:09:09,930 here. But during the press conference, many journalists, of 2187 02:09:09,930 --> 02:09:12,510 course, were quite skeptical of this. And the reason why is 2188 02:09:12,510 --> 02:09:15,720 because they say that, you know, the space division of Boeing is 2189 02:09:15,810 --> 02:09:19,530 it can't be completely isolated from the rest of its commercial 2190 02:09:19,530 --> 02:09:23,220 activities, and mainly linked to all of the problems it's had 2191 02:09:23,220 --> 02:09:26,220 with its airliners, specifically, very recently, the 2192 02:09:26,220 --> 02:09:29,070 loss of adore in mid flight. This 2193 02:09:29,070 --> 02:09:31,860 Adam Curry: is an epic, epic fail for Boeing. 2194 02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:38,520 John C Dvorak: That's really bad. Your thoughts? You're going 2195 02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:41,610 to have to apologize and get the Russians to take these guys 2196 02:09:41,610 --> 02:09:41,970 home. 2197 02:09:42,060 --> 02:09:44,940 Adam Curry: Why not musk? Why can't Musk Musk 2198 02:09:44,940 --> 02:09:46,950 John C Dvorak: if musky? Well, for one thing, Musk doesn't have 2199 02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:49,950 just spare rockets sitting around that he could just launch 2200 02:09:49,950 --> 02:09:54,750 up there. The Russians, I might do mine. But I think must 2201 02:09:54,750 --> 02:09:57,060 shouldn't do it. I think he should make him go have the 2202 02:09:57,060 --> 02:10:01,590 Russians do it to show the Adi Like dependency that we have on 2203 02:10:01,590 --> 02:10:04,110 Russia for the space program. 2204 02:10:04,170 --> 02:10:07,950 Adam Curry: Let me ask you this. So you know Boeing is in such 2205 02:10:07,950 --> 02:10:12,750 deep water or as my parents used to say Kim che. Here's a quick 2206 02:10:12,750 --> 02:10:15,120 clip just just to bring us up to speed. 2207 02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:19,890 Unknown: The US Justice Department for this week 2208 02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:24,090 criminally charged Boeing with fraud over two fatal crashes, 2209 02:10:24,420 --> 02:10:26,010 Kamel Crimmins has more. 2210 02:10:26,460 --> 02:10:30,360 So US authorities are asking the plane maker to plead guilty or 2211 02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:33,510 take the risk of going to trial. And Boeing has until the end of 2212 02:10:33,510 --> 02:10:34,830 this week to decide 2213 02:10:34,980 --> 02:10:38,400 this comes at a particularly bad time for Boeing. Right? 2214 02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:39,390 Absolutely. The 2215 02:10:39,390 --> 02:10:42,750 playmakers already engulfed in crisis over its safety record. 2216 02:10:42,810 --> 02:10:45,690 And a guilty plea could affect its ability to enter into 2217 02:10:45,690 --> 02:10:48,840 government contracts. And business with the US military 2218 02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:50,880 makes up a significant chunk of its revenues. 2219 02:10:51,420 --> 02:10:57,690 Adam Curry: So you know, I can't help but think initially, were 2220 02:10:57,690 --> 02:11:00,210 like, hey, you know, these guys that haven't paid their 2221 02:11:00,210 --> 02:11:03,030 representatives, they haven't put enough money in the kitty, 2222 02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:05,880 like how much money you make when you make $33,000,000.30 $3 2223 02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:08,760 million? Really, you've only donated 1 million the whole 2224 02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:14,220 company, to our campaigns. What if they just take this one step 2225 02:11:14,220 --> 02:11:18,720 further? Why wouldn't they take the highly compromised? likely 2226 02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:22,050 one of the largest military contractors for the United 2227 02:11:22,050 --> 02:11:27,570 States? Elon Musk, give the space stuff to him, which he 2228 02:11:27,570 --> 02:11:31,770 already has half of the business if not more, and why not? Let 2229 02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:38,190 Elon by spirit Aerosystems have him have him build planes take 2230 02:11:38,190 --> 02:11:41,190 it away from Boeing. They seem like they're just going can't 2231 02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:47,130 when someone else should be building these planes. And isn't 2232 02:11:47,130 --> 02:11:50,400 spirit putting together the bodies and a lot of lot of the 2233 02:11:50,610 --> 02:11:53,130 oil was said further okay by Boeing. 2234 02:11:53,850 --> 02:11:57,570 John C Dvorak: Give Boeing to Elon Musk has it but that's 2235 02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:00,810 Adam Curry: it's, it may be so corrupted, he could just buy the 2236 02:12:00,810 --> 02:12:03,900 pieces out of it. What's the stock? Is it is it crap? 2237 02:12:04,410 --> 02:12:07,110 John C Dvorak: No, the stock is held up actually interesting. 2238 02:12:07,590 --> 02:12:10,860 That means it's not what it should be. But it's held up. 2239 02:12:10,860 --> 02:12:12,330 It's not like collapsed. 2240 02:12:13,500 --> 02:12:16,290 Adam Curry: But it seems to me that someone else has this this 2241 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:20,880 it's too sick, and no one trusts it. And all these bad stories is 2242 02:12:20,910 --> 02:12:23,550 that anything that happens in aviation now is one of two 2243 02:12:23,550 --> 02:12:28,590 things Boeing or Dei, both of which might not be but this 2244 02:12:28,590 --> 02:12:32,400 might not really be true in every single case. But that's, 2245 02:12:32,430 --> 02:12:36,060 you know, that's, that's beside the point. I think we need 2246 02:12:36,060 --> 02:12:42,240 something and Elon needs it. He needs it. Now he I think if I 2247 02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:45,480 were him, I think differently than you I'd be like, Okay, 2248 02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:48,210 first I'm gonna take away all the Boeing space business. I'm 2249 02:12:48,210 --> 02:12:52,440 gonna get get my what does that thing called? What's his? What's 2250 02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:58,380 his? His his? His is? X No, no, his ISS shuttle rocket. What's 2251 02:12:58,380 --> 02:13:02,010 that thing called? Whatever, though, I can't remember who is 2252 02:13:02,010 --> 02:13:05,100 also selling the mini Starlink Now have you gotten I've been 2253 02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:08,580 getting ads from him for that. The mini Starlink is a is a 2254 02:13:08,580 --> 02:13:12,750 Starlink internet satellite that you can put in a backpack take 2255 02:13:12,750 --> 02:13:13,380 anywhere. 2256 02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:16,290 John C Dvorak: You have to buy it for this. It's pretty 2257 02:13:16,290 --> 02:13:19,650 phenomenal technology. And he stumbled onto it. 600 Well, 2258 02:13:19,650 --> 02:13:21,420 Adam Curry: it's all military. It's, first 2259 02:13:21,420 --> 02:13:23,580 John C Dvorak: of all, the government can not have one 2260 02:13:23,580 --> 02:13:26,490 vendor. Now they'll throw someone else in their point of 2261 02:13:26,490 --> 02:13:29,790 failure. So they have to have an alternative. And so Boeing is 2262 02:13:29,790 --> 02:13:32,640 supposed to be the alternative not Boeing. Who would it be? 2263 02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:38,850 Adam Curry: Well, I'm just Well, okay, how about Bezos? Where's 2264 02:13:38,850 --> 02:13:45,570 Bezos in the mix? Someone's got to start building planes there's 2265 02:13:45,570 --> 02:13:51,990 no no faith no trust in what Boeing is doing anymore. China 2266 02:13:51,990 --> 02:13:55,650 definitely has them that's why I started doing it that's why I'm 2267 02:13:55,650 --> 02:14:03,180 thinking Musk speaking of China it was kind of this this let me 2268 02:14:03,180 --> 02:14:04,500 see if I can find it here 2269 02:14:09,660 --> 02:14:13,320 John C Dvorak: Teemu is under attack. No team who in the other 2270 02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:17,280 operation they're all on and so is La Express. Yes. And then 2271 02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:20,580 Europe, they're under attack in Europe. Because the Europeans 2272 02:14:20,580 --> 02:14:24,510 are letting this stuff flow anything under 150 bucks is 2273 02:14:24,510 --> 02:14:28,110 flowing into Europe duty free and the Europeans are looking at 2274 02:14:28,110 --> 02:14:34,710 this flood of crap that's coming in. And by the way, I recommend 2275 02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:38,190 it all the expresses a cool thing but do not buy any 2276 02:14:38,190 --> 02:14:41,490 computer related products from them at all ever. 2277 02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:44,310 Adam Curry: So there's these reports out there from outfits 2278 02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:49,140 like Grizzly reports.com that say and this is this is 2279 02:14:49,170 --> 02:14:53,100 basically the TIC tock strategy we believe PDD is a dying 2280 02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:57,120 fraudulent company its shopping app Teemu was cleverly hit is 2281 02:14:57,120 --> 02:15:00,240 cleverly hidden spyware that poses an urgent secure already 2282 02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:04,320 threat to us national interests. Anything that China does that 2283 02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:09,210 beats us it Hello, Amazon. They just say, national security risk 2284 02:15:09,210 --> 02:15:13,380 33. Yeah, it's spying on you. All these apps are spying on 2285 02:15:13,380 --> 02:15:16,650 you. You can't get it into the Apple App Store if they try 2286 02:15:16,650 --> 02:15:19,200 John C Dvorak: to get more spying than Google does. Yeah, 2287 02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:22,020 right. or Microsoft, for that matter. 2288 02:15:22,530 --> 02:15:25,410 Adam Curry: And then you and I read this, I read the about 2289 02:15:25,410 --> 02:15:30,300 statement from this grisly research. We use our research 2290 02:15:30,300 --> 02:15:33,270 and on the ground due diligence capacities consult on a range of 2291 02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:37,140 m&a transactions and structured investments, our ability to 2292 02:15:37,140 --> 02:15:40,200 sniff out when others are trying to hide is valued by many who 2293 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:43,590 are risking their own capital. We serve institutional clients, 2294 02:15:43,590 --> 02:15:46,710 including family offices, hedge funds, investment banks and 2295 02:15:46,710 --> 02:15:51,660 operating companies, please. That's not You're not reporting. 2296 02:15:51,810 --> 02:15:55,110 You're shorting Oh, there you go. Not reporting you're 2297 02:15:55,110 --> 02:15:58,560 shorting. But I think something has to have something has to 2298 02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:04,830 happen with with Boeing and I think it's got to be the trick 2299 02:16:04,830 --> 02:16:06,150 is in the Spirit Airlines. 2300 02:16:07,020 --> 02:16:12,030 John C Dvorak: Maybe Lockheed can end up owning him. Lucky us 2301 02:16:12,030 --> 02:16:15,510 has experienced and if you remember the l 1011. Is some of 2302 02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:18,540 the other jets they used to have. Yeah, they're pretty good 2303 02:16:18,540 --> 02:16:21,960 products that the l 1011. was a great three engine jet. 2304 02:16:22,620 --> 02:16:24,420 Adam Curry: Was that tried? I don't remember that one. Yeah, 2305 02:16:24,420 --> 02:16:28,410 it was It tried it was the 70s airplane. No, 2306 02:16:28,410 --> 02:16:30,810 John C Dvorak: I think 80s That's what are you talking 2307 02:16:30,810 --> 02:16:33,330 about China, I got a immigrant phone story that I want to get 2308 02:16:33,330 --> 02:16:35,400 out of the way which I always thought was screwy never gotten 2309 02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:39,300 to the mainstream media. But this kind of kind of interesting 2310 02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:39,750 from 2311 02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:42,750 Unknown: finding gaps in the US border wall to explaining how to 2312 02:16:42,750 --> 02:16:46,740 apply for asylum inside the US and online network helping 2313 02:16:46,740 --> 02:16:50,550 Chinese immigrants cross into the US illegally is coming to 2314 02:16:50,550 --> 02:16:54,720 light. All of this discover through a single smartphone left 2315 02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:59,070 behind at the border. And it is Juliette song has the details. 2316 02:17:00,660 --> 02:17:03,600 A telegram group chat that contributes to the border 2317 02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:07,560 crisis. It gives detailed instructions on how to cross the 2318 02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:10,890 southern border and scripts for what to say when applying for 2319 02:17:10,890 --> 02:17:15,450 asylum. Its owner claims to be a cyber police officer in China. 2320 02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,840 Phillip Lindsey key is an investigative reporter at The 2321 02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:21,870 Daily Caller, he broke the story. And 2322 02:17:21,870 --> 02:17:27,870 it also acts as a hub for documents detailing specific 2323 02:17:28,290 --> 02:17:33,180 Chinese illegal immigration paths to the United States. It 2324 02:17:33,180 --> 02:17:40,440 also contains a documents that show as many as 15 border wall 2325 02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:46,800 crossing points into the US 12, which are in California, started 2326 02:17:46,799 --> 02:17:50,819 when he got a tip from a San Diego resident who 2327 02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:55,170 lives about 50 miles to the east of San Diego near hukum. Baja 2328 02:17:55,170 --> 02:18:01,410 springs, and he found a Chinese illegal immigrants cell phone 2329 02:18:01,440 --> 02:18:06,750 that had been discarded on the US side of the border. Can 2330 02:18:06,750 --> 02:18:10,380 Adam Curry: you imagine you're a Chinese immigrant, you get the 2331 02:18:10,380 --> 02:18:13,950 cell phone, which by the way is a Soros trick who used it for 2332 02:18:13,950 --> 02:18:18,330 years, getting people out of Turkey into Europe with 2333 02:18:18,330 --> 02:18:20,520 everything you needed with the maps the whole thought 2334 02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:24,210 everything was in it. So it's not like some major league new 2335 02:18:24,210 --> 02:18:28,140 thing. Your Chinese immigrant you come in you're like, you're 2336 02:18:28,140 --> 02:18:33,180 in California like oh man, Jose. Hello, Lin. Hello, Lynn. This is 2337 02:18:33,180 --> 02:18:37,230 your this is your your, your your cousin Yin. They're peeing 2338 02:18:37,230 --> 02:18:46,170 on each other. Hey, man. Yatta here. This was a mistake. Oh 2339 02:18:46,170 --> 02:18:49,320 goodness. What's important to hear? 2340 02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:53,249 Unknown: The owner of the phone had been getting information 2341 02:18:53,249 --> 02:18:56,669 from a telegram group chat caught the American self guided 2342 02:18:56,669 --> 02:18:58,349 tour. Furthermore, 2343 02:18:58,710 --> 02:19:03,480 the documents contain information that we can think of 2344 02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:08,730 as scripts or templates for Chinese illegal immigrants to 2345 02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:13,650 use in order to answer questions from border patrol agents and 2346 02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:16,140 obtain asylum. The discovery 2347 02:19:16,140 --> 02:19:19,470 comes as illegal Chinese migrants continue to flood the 2348 02:19:19,470 --> 02:19:23,760 southern border eight months into fiscal year 2024. Over 2349 02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:27,360 80,000 had crossed into the southern border exceeding the 2350 02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:31,860 total from last year. That's according to CBP data. A large 2351 02:19:31,860 --> 02:19:36,030 number of them are military age adult men, raising concerns 2352 02:19:36,060 --> 02:19:42,240 among some US officials. Gauge and for Beijing, back to the 2353 02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:46,350 telegram chat. Its owner Jack doubleu. claims to be a cyber 2354 02:19:46,350 --> 02:19:51,330 police officer in China. And TD can't independently confirm Jack 2355 02:19:51,330 --> 02:19:55,020 W's identity. It's unclear if it's backed by the Chinese 2356 02:19:55,020 --> 02:19:59,580 state. Though he does appear to toe the communist party line. He 2357 02:19:59,580 --> 02:19:59,970 banned 2358 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:05,040 Beans and sensors, accounts that express opinions contrary to the 2359 02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:06,150 Chinese Communist Party, 2360 02:20:06,450 --> 02:20:09,870 after the Daily Caller article came out, someone posted it in 2361 02:20:09,870 --> 02:20:13,980 the group chat. The owner then pinned a message banning future 2362 02:20:13,980 --> 02:20:15,450 political discussions. 2363 02:20:15,870 --> 02:20:17,700 Adam Curry: Well, I'm a little disappointed this of course, 2364 02:20:17,700 --> 02:20:20,880 Daily Caller that just reporting on a report but this is 2365 02:20:20,880 --> 02:20:24,420 obviously this is particularly when you bring in the military 2366 02:20:24,420 --> 02:20:28,470 aged men. This is a setup for Trump with his big beautiful 2367 02:20:28,470 --> 02:20:33,570 ships and submarines and bases as we as we mount of phony 2368 02:20:33,570 --> 02:20:38,910 baloney, non violent war non kinetic war against China, which 2369 02:20:38,940 --> 02:20:44,280 of course will will be tariffs and you know, the stuff that he 2370 02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:48,420 loves doing. But this is this is just set up. This is just set 2371 02:20:48,420 --> 02:20:53,550 up. We need evil China. Believe me, these Chinese are smart. 2372 02:20:53,550 --> 02:20:57,690 They're not coming down. What am I doing here? In California? I 2373 02:20:57,690 --> 02:21:00,660 mean, they think they've come to America. No, no, no, no. 2374 02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:03,060 John C Dvorak: Well, maybe they can leave California go to 2375 02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:04,350 Austin. Well, 2376 02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:06,420 Adam Curry: is there a difference? It's the same 2377 02:21:06,420 --> 02:21:07,140 people. 2378 02:21:08,370 --> 02:21:10,590 John C Dvorak: I want to stay as because California is went to 2379 02:21:10,590 --> 02:21:11,970 Austin. Correct. 2380 02:21:12,210 --> 02:21:15,330 Adam Curry: I'd like to stay in the region. You want horror 2381 02:21:15,330 --> 02:21:20,310 which quarter which Horowitz DH unplugged on Wednesday nights. 2382 02:21:20,460 --> 02:21:23,730 Tuesday nights. I'm sorry, Tuesday nights, yet. I always 2383 02:21:23,730 --> 02:21:28,470 listened to it on Wednesday. That's why Tuesday nights. I try 2384 02:21:28,470 --> 02:21:31,560 to listen almost every single week is fun. It's a good show 2385 02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:35,250 this garbage. If you wanted to keep up on your finances without 2386 02:21:35,250 --> 02:21:39,930 really having to know much. You know, it's good, perfect 2387 02:21:39,930 --> 02:21:40,320 Unknown: for you. 2388 02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:43,260 Adam Curry: Yes, it is. It's perfect for people like me DH on 2389 02:21:43,260 --> 02:21:47,970 plug.com. So you guys have been tracking the yen and this, you 2390 02:21:47,970 --> 02:21:53,160 know, they they banged it down to 150. And now it's well, we 2391 02:21:53,160 --> 02:21:58,350 can't have a go over 160. And I just looked it's now 161 50. 2392 02:21:58,740 --> 02:22:02,700 John C Dvorak: God. So yeah, so now that means Toyotas are 2393 02:22:02,700 --> 02:22:03,450 cheap. 2394 02:22:03,690 --> 02:22:07,050 Adam Curry: So but this next report, maybe think is this? I 2395 02:22:07,050 --> 02:22:10,800 mean? Do they need to print money? Do they need to print 2396 02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:14,040 money to get themselves out of this? I mean, what is the what 2397 02:22:14,040 --> 02:22:15,810 is the actual problem they have? 2398 02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:20,610 John C Dvorak: We'll play the report and maybe I can think of 2399 02:22:20,610 --> 02:22:21,030 something? 2400 02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:24,060 Adam Curry: Well, the report is kind of the payoff depending on 2401 02:22:24,060 --> 02:22:24,900 your answer. 2402 02:22:26,280 --> 02:22:28,080 John C Dvorak: No, I don't think printing money would help that 2403 02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:29,400 would make it worse. Well, 2404 02:22:29,400 --> 02:22:30,600 Adam Curry: they're making it worse. 2405 02:22:30,960 --> 02:22:33,810 Unknown: Japanese Central bank officials breaking out the top 2406 02:22:33,810 --> 02:22:37,470 hat and tails for a special occasion the country's first new 2407 02:22:37,470 --> 02:22:41,760 cash design in 20 years, the government has begun sending new 2408 02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:47,220 10,000 5000 in 1000 yen bills into circulation with seven and 2409 02:22:47,220 --> 02:22:50,880 a half billion new notes due out by next March featuring 2410 02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:55,050 historical champions of Japanese capitalism, female empowerment 2411 02:22:55,050 --> 02:22:58,680 and scientific achievement. The bills have some state of the art 2412 02:22:58,680 --> 02:23:02,640 science of their own 3d holographic portraits that turn 2413 02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:06,270 their heads depending on the viewers angle. That's fine. I 2414 02:23:06,270 --> 02:23:06,600 mean, 2415 02:23:06,630 --> 02:23:09,360 they packed a lot of technology into this notes to fight 2416 02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:11,250 counterfeiting. It's quite amazing. 2417 02:23:12,750 --> 02:23:16,350 The rollout though comes with complications. Japan's retail 2418 02:23:16,350 --> 02:23:19,950 economy is not only more cash based than some of its developed 2419 02:23:19,950 --> 02:23:24,900 peers. It's also highly automated while 90% of ATM 2420 02:23:24,900 --> 02:23:28,350 stream ticket booths and retail registers can accept the new 2421 02:23:28,350 --> 02:23:32,280 bills, only about 20% of the country's ubiquitous vending 2422 02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:35,640 machines can roughly half the country's restaurants will need 2423 02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:38,910 to upgrade their automatic Till's an extra headache for 2424 02:23:38,910 --> 02:23:41,490 owners already struggling with inflation. 2425 02:23:42,480 --> 02:23:45,690 My bills already going up every month. Upgrading the payment 2426 02:23:45,690 --> 02:23:48,960 machine has no real impact on sales, so it's only negative for 2427 02:23:48,960 --> 02:23:51,660 us. It's a very difficult situation. Well, neither is she. 2428 02:23:52,350 --> 02:23:53,040 as fancy 2429 02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:55,590 as the new notes are the government would like for them 2430 02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:59,040 to take a smaller role in the country's economy, aiming for 2431 02:23:59,070 --> 02:24:03,480 80% cashless payments to boost productivity while digital 2432 02:24:03,480 --> 02:24:07,290 payments have nearly tripled in Japan over the past decade. They 2433 02:24:07,290 --> 02:24:11,010 still make up less than 40% of consumer spending 2434 02:24:11,250 --> 02:24:13,080 Adam Curry: I don't know what the strategy is but they 2435 02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:18,060 literally printed money yeah what is that about everybody 2436 02:24:18,060 --> 02:24:22,560 John C Dvorak: has to get it was obviously was a reaction to 2437 02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:26,190 counterfeiting? I guess the money's plastic I don't know 2438 02:24:26,190 --> 02:24:29,910 nobody said in that report whether it was plastic looks. It 2439 02:24:29,910 --> 02:24:36,060 looks plastic. Plastic. Yeah. And yeah, some new plastic 2440 02:24:36,060 --> 02:24:39,960 money. Well, that's good every everywhere in the world but us 2441 02:24:39,990 --> 02:24:42,570 is using plastic now that's in Canada, but 2442 02:24:42,570 --> 02:24:45,990 Adam Curry: that's inflationary. By definition right? They print 2443 02:24:46,170 --> 02:24:46,380 more 2444 02:24:46,380 --> 02:24:48,180 John C Dvorak: money most this subsidy is supposed to bring 2445 02:24:48,180 --> 02:24:51,690 money often out of circulation and substitute with the new 2446 02:24:51,690 --> 02:24:56,490 money. That's because there's a continual process in all 2447 02:24:56,490 --> 02:25:00,180 countries of grabbing money from the banks and swapping it out 2448 02:25:00,180 --> 02:25:03,090 for new money and it's not necessarily inflationary if they 2449 02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:07,050 get if you if your bank owes you 100, you get 100 back it doesn't 2450 02:25:07,050 --> 02:25:08,880 seem to be inflationary that 2451 02:25:08,880 --> 02:25:11,340 Adam Curry: way. But that wasn't in the report. So I don't know. 2452 02:25:11,430 --> 02:25:13,890 I don't know. But that's the weirdest way it usually works. 2453 02:25:14,580 --> 02:25:18,270 Meanwhile, billet Bolivia is in a globalist missing 2454 02:25:18,270 --> 02:25:19,950 John C Dvorak: from your analysis is the fact that 2455 02:25:19,950 --> 02:25:23,130 they're promoting this cashless stuff when the Japanese like 2456 02:25:23,130 --> 02:25:24,690 most agents don't like 2457 02:25:24,690 --> 02:25:27,960 Adam Curry: the idea. Well, no, that was that was in the report. 2458 02:25:27,960 --> 02:25:30,840 It was in the report. I don't know how to analyze it. i That's 2459 02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:34,320 why I asked you when I set you up as one of the experts. 2460 02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:36,780 John C Dvorak: I just don't think that people I don't think 2461 02:25:36,780 --> 02:25:41,850 cashless is a great idea is the best idea. It's good for certain 2462 02:25:41,850 --> 02:25:42,870 things. So 2463 02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:46,410 Adam Curry: Bolivia has a problem. They have a lot of 2464 02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:51,060 climate change, or unfriendly stuff for climate change. They 2465 02:25:51,060 --> 02:25:57,540 have gas and I guess gases, and people can't give it away. I 2466 02:25:57,540 --> 02:26:00,780 don't know much about Bolivia, but because they they have no 2467 02:26:00,780 --> 02:26:06,360 one's buying their gas. They have a lack of dollars. And now 2468 02:26:06,360 --> 02:26:10,170 the Bolivian government has taken an extraordinary step as 2469 02:26:10,890 --> 02:26:12,630 reported by France 24 2470 02:26:12,780 --> 02:26:16,890 Unknown: in the grip of economic crisis, fuel mines and spiraling 2471 02:26:16,890 --> 02:26:21,390 prices, the new normal. Bolivia is facing a severe shortage of 2472 02:26:21,390 --> 02:26:25,740 the US dollars needed to import petrol and diesel. foreign 2473 02:26:25,740 --> 02:26:30,000 currency reserves have fallen from $15 billion a decade ago to 2474 02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:34,110 less than 2 billion in may annoy which they 2475 02:26:34,110 --> 02:26:37,290 haven't disappeared entirely but there are not many dollars there 2476 02:26:37,290 --> 02:26:40,830 is some activity obviously but not like before when it came on 2477 02:26:40,830 --> 02:26:45,300 board we sold but not anymore. Our yellow desperate 2478 02:26:45,300 --> 02:26:48,930 for solutions. The government a president who we are say is 2479 02:26:48,930 --> 02:26:52,830 looking to cryptocurrency to ease the pressure lifting a 2480 02:26:52,830 --> 02:26:57,240 decade old ban on transactions in digital money like Bitcoin. 2481 02:26:58,950 --> 02:27:02,400 Yeah, this is actually a global issue. Everyone is using that 2482 02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:06,210 kind of payment. Why? Because it's an international strategy 2483 02:27:06,210 --> 02:27:08,820 to move away from using the dollar dollar. 2484 02:27:09,540 --> 02:27:12,510 The central bank says the move is aimed at modernizing 2485 02:27:12,510 --> 02:27:16,020 Bolivia's payment system and putting its policies more in 2486 02:27:16,020 --> 02:27:20,220 line with the rest of Latin America. The region has seen the 2487 02:27:20,220 --> 02:27:23,730 wider official acceptance of crypto in recent years with its 2488 02:27:23,730 --> 02:27:27,750 popularity growing in countries like Mexico and Brazil. El 2489 02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:31,620 Salvador has even made Bitcoin legal tender, requiring 2490 02:27:31,620 --> 02:27:36,060 companies to accept it for payments. Bolivia, meanwhile, is 2491 02:27:36,060 --> 02:27:39,270 one of Latin America's poorest countries, despite sitting on 2492 02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:43,740 large reserves of natural gas and lithium gas exports abroad 2493 02:27:43,740 --> 02:27:47,220 though have cratered in part due to a lack of investment in new 2494 02:27:47,220 --> 02:27:51,930 exploration meaning fewer and fewer crucial US dollars coming 2495 02:27:51,930 --> 02:27:52,290 in. 2496 02:27:52,590 --> 02:27:54,060 Adam Curry: I just thought that was interesting. 2497 02:27:55,140 --> 02:27:58,290 John C Dvorak: Well that brings me to a clip All right. And it's 2498 02:27:58,290 --> 02:28:01,260 also has to do with like what's happening here who's running the 2499 02:28:01,260 --> 02:28:05,010 show that's allowing this to happen this is all bad for us. 2500 02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:10,710 Yes, us. Yes. This is the WTF clip at the bombs the Shanghai 2501 02:28:10,710 --> 02:28:13,620 club. I don't know anything never heard of this. I don't 2502 02:28:13,620 --> 02:28:16,380 know what's going on with it. Why it's even in business. What 2503 02:28:16,380 --> 02:28:19,710 I was doing is not bricks is another group all together. But 2504 02:28:19,710 --> 02:28:21,900 it seems like a lot of bricks people are in it because it's 2505 02:28:21,900 --> 02:28:24,660 the energy all designed to screw us over. 2506 02:28:24,690 --> 02:28:29,880 Adam Curry: Is this the SEO? Or what the s see oh, 2507 02:28:31,740 --> 02:28:32,880 John C Dvorak: just see. Oh, yeah. What 2508 02:28:32,880 --> 02:28:35,010 Adam Curry: is it Shanghai corporate those Shanghai the 2509 02:28:35,010 --> 02:28:39,000 Shanghai corporate Shanghai club. Shanghai Cooperation 2510 02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:41,580 Organization. Yeah, this is the big I've heard about this. I'll 2511 02:28:41,580 --> 02:28:42,060 play the clip. 2512 02:28:42,090 --> 02:28:44,580 Unknown: Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Chinese 2513 02:28:44,580 --> 02:28:47,460 leader Xi Jinping today at the Shanghai Cooperation 2514 02:28:47,460 --> 02:28:49,890 Organization summit in Kazakhstan. 2515 02:28:50,190 --> 02:28:52,800 During the meeting, Putin said that ties between Moscow and 2516 02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:56,490 Beijing are experiencing the best period in their history. 2517 02:28:56,970 --> 02:28:57,120 The 2518 02:28:57,120 --> 02:29:00,390 club was founded by Russia, China and Central Asian powers 2519 02:29:00,390 --> 02:29:03,900 in 2001. One of its goals is to counter the influence of the 2520 02:29:03,900 --> 02:29:07,050 United States and its allies. The organization has since 2521 02:29:07,050 --> 02:29:10,950 expanded to include India, Iran and Pakistan. Leaders 2522 02:29:10,950 --> 02:29:14,760 from various nations are set to attend this week's meeting. UN 2523 02:29:14,760 --> 02:29:18,330 Secretary General Antonio Guterres will also be present 2524 02:29:18,330 --> 02:29:20,940 row gathering is scheduled to end tomorrow. 2525 02:29:21,060 --> 02:29:24,180 Adam Curry: Yeah, all I know about this is I hear the same 2526 02:29:24,180 --> 02:29:29,340 thing. We don't want the BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation 2527 02:29:29,340 --> 02:29:32,640 Organization to join together because then we're real then the 2528 02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:35,010 dollar is screwed is what I Well, I'm hearing 2529 02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:39,510 John C Dvorak: you the fact that this has India and Pakistan 2530 02:29:39,540 --> 02:29:45,300 that's crazy sworn enemies, along with Russia and China and 2531 02:29:45,300 --> 02:29:50,310 then a bunch of indo Chinese operations. All gathering in 2532 02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:53,670 Kazakhstan are one of these causes because damn one, 2533 02:29:53,670 --> 02:30:00,540 Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan to to plot it, and it's Desert right 2534 02:30:00,540 --> 02:30:06,090 in the report to plot plot against the American dollar. And 2535 02:30:06,090 --> 02:30:09,090 then when you play that Bolivia clip this is not good. The 2536 02:30:09,090 --> 02:30:12,030 Shanghai Cooperation league going off the rails thanks to 2537 02:30:12,030 --> 02:30:14,760 our President Biden the Shanghai Cooperation 2538 02:30:14,760 --> 02:30:18,120 Adam Curry: Organization SCO is a Eurasian political economic, 2539 02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:22,380 International Security and Defense organization established 2540 02:30:22,380 --> 02:30:26,070 by China and Russia in 2001, as the world's largest regional 2541 02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:29,280 organization in terms of geographic scope and population, 2542 02:30:29,610 --> 02:30:33,510 covering approximately 80% of the area of Eurasia 40% of the 2543 02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:38,850 world population. As of 2021, its combined GDP was around 20% 2544 02:30:38,850 --> 02:30:43,200 of global GDP. This is the successor to the Shanghai five 2545 02:30:43,470 --> 02:30:48,240 from 1996. Yeah, this is definitely not good. This is why 2546 02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:52,020 I say people will be begging Trump please come in fix it. 2547 02:30:53,910 --> 02:30:57,270 This is this is a I agree with you this is a real problem. 2548 02:30:59,160 --> 02:31:01,020 John C Dvorak: Not that we know that doing anything about it 2549 02:31:01,020 --> 02:31:04,380 from what I can tell. That's what's gonna make the step 2550 02:31:04,380 --> 02:31:07,080 INNOPOLIS. interview interesting. 2551 02:31:07,500 --> 02:31:10,770 Adam Curry: Want to take? You're gonna take it, is it going to 2552 02:31:10,770 --> 02:31:13,110 tank Joe? Or is he going to say they better? 2553 02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:16,200 John C Dvorak: Stephanopoulos is in the Council on Foreign 2554 02:31:16,200 --> 02:31:18,750 Relations, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, he'll be 2555 02:31:18,750 --> 02:31:21,510 out and that's the Council on Foreign Relations, which is a 2556 02:31:21,510 --> 02:31:26,730 bunch of globalists, and none of us none of them in favor of 2557 02:31:26,730 --> 02:31:30,090 sovereignty of our country. But that's okay. You can have your 2558 02:31:30,090 --> 02:31:34,410 own opinion. And they've all been against Biden since that 2559 02:31:34,410 --> 02:31:39,060 debate. And Stephanopoulos is not going to step out a line. Is 2560 02:31:39,060 --> 02:31:43,530 he and make Biden look good? No, even though the vital have the 2561 02:31:43,530 --> 02:31:46,500 questions and everything. No, you know that that's going to be 2562 02:31:46,500 --> 02:31:48,510 true and failure may be a teleprompter behind 2563 02:31:48,510 --> 02:31:52,230 Stephanopoulos, his ad that Biden is reading from for all we 2564 02:31:52,230 --> 02:31:52,620 know. 2565 02:31:54,180 --> 02:31:57,450 Adam Curry: This will be even better than the debate. It could 2566 02:31:57,450 --> 02:32:05,460 be. You got a Chevron deference clip. I see. I do. Well, he was 2567 02:32:05,820 --> 02:32:09,900 it says after effects. Oh, yes, yes. Just right. Yeah, Ron and 2568 02:32:09,900 --> 02:32:10,590 Texas. 2569 02:32:11,790 --> 02:32:14,370 John C Dvorak: are on shiver after Yeah, this is the app by 2570 02:32:14,370 --> 02:32:16,650 the way, this is what I think we're going to start seeing more 2571 02:32:16,650 --> 02:32:19,860 and more of this is the bull crap after effect, because 2572 02:32:19,860 --> 02:32:24,030 Chevron deference as we talked about to death, you know, is a 2573 02:32:24,030 --> 02:32:28,230 major change in the way that the government is going to operate. 2574 02:32:28,650 --> 02:32:31,140 As this not going to be as abusive is what it really 2575 02:32:31,140 --> 02:32:35,010 amounts to is it used to be to require like that poor fishing 2576 02:32:35,010 --> 02:32:39,300 boat guy to spend bandwidth 170 to 700 bucks for some per ship 2577 02:32:39,300 --> 02:32:39,480 back 2578 02:32:39,480 --> 02:32:42,720 Adam Curry: per vessel per vessel per day, per day, 2579 02:32:42,990 --> 02:32:45,060 John C Dvorak: which you can't afford. If you're a fisherman. 2580 02:32:45,780 --> 02:32:48,540 This is an after effect that we're going to get into this in 2581 02:32:48,540 --> 02:32:51,810 Texas. This is going to be we're going to hear more and more 2582 02:32:51,810 --> 02:32:54,330 stories like this was your phone eat up stories federal 2583 02:32:54,330 --> 02:32:57,330 Unknown: judge in Texas has delayed a ban on non compete 2584 02:32:57,330 --> 02:33:00,330 agreements for workers. Companies often ask workers to 2585 02:33:00,330 --> 02:33:03,540 sign such agreements to promise they won't join the employers 2586 02:33:03,540 --> 02:33:07,140 rivals or launch competing businesses. The ban was approved 2587 02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:10,200 by the Federal Trade Commission in April and set to take effect 2588 02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:13,980 in early September. But now it's been delayed by a federal judge 2589 02:33:13,980 --> 02:33:17,700 who says the FTC lacked the authority to adopt such broad 2590 02:33:17,700 --> 02:33:21,750 rules. The judge says that the delay is temporary and the court 2591 02:33:21,750 --> 02:33:25,290 will rule on the merits of the band before the end of August. 2592 02:33:26,550 --> 02:33:30,840 Adam Curry: Yes, things are changing new sheriff in town and 2593 02:33:31,110 --> 02:33:36,570 I have some Chevron deference clips. Coming from CNBC, which 2594 02:33:36,570 --> 02:33:39,270 means they kind of have to be honest. But what was most 2595 02:33:39,270 --> 02:33:43,710 interesting about this is the person who was being interviewed 2596 02:33:43,710 --> 02:33:48,900 about it is Dr. Scott Gottlieb. Of course, he used to run the 2597 02:33:48,900 --> 02:33:53,370 FDA. So there said he's on the Pfizer board. He's on the Pfizer 2598 02:33:53,370 --> 02:33:56,070 board. So there's some interesting little deets in 2599 02:33:56,070 --> 02:33:56,700 this. Welcome 2600 02:33:56,700 --> 02:33:58,710 Unknown: back, everybody. The Supreme Court has overturned a 2601 02:33:58,710 --> 02:34:03,330 1980s precedent known as the chevron doctrine, that decision 2602 02:34:03,330 --> 02:34:06,630 could actually undercut federal agencies, including the FDA. 2603 02:34:06,930 --> 02:34:09,780 Joining us right now for more on this as former FDA commissioner 2604 02:34:09,780 --> 02:34:13,410 and CNBC contributor Dr. Scott Gottlieb and Dr. Gottlieb, thank 2605 02:34:13,410 --> 02:34:16,740 you for being here. I wanted to talk to you about this not just 2606 02:34:16,890 --> 02:34:20,820 in your role as the former FDA commissioner, but also as 2607 02:34:20,850 --> 02:34:24,210 someone who used to work at the American Enterprise Institute, 2608 02:34:24,420 --> 02:34:26,970 which takes the view that big government's not always a great 2609 02:34:26,970 --> 02:34:30,660 thing. And I just wonder how you are looking at this decision 2610 02:34:30,960 --> 02:34:35,130 that was originally brought by by fishermen in the Atlantic who 2611 02:34:35,130 --> 02:34:39,210 were unhappy with having to pay for monitors who were watching 2612 02:34:39,210 --> 02:34:42,000 over what they were hauling in what why don't you talk through 2613 02:34:42,030 --> 02:34:44,790 how you see all of this and what it means. Right, 2614 02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:47,280 and I'm still at the American Enterprise Institute. Look, I 2615 02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:50,310 Adam Curry: love this. This guy is on both sides of this 2616 02:34:50,310 --> 02:34:53,610 American Enterprise Institute who are against big government 2617 02:34:53,850 --> 02:34:57,510 has this guy there who basically became a multimillionaire 2618 02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:58,980 because of big government. 2619 02:34:59,130 --> 02:35:02,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah. then that guy knows how to work it. 2620 02:35:02,670 --> 02:35:04,860 Unknown: He does. He does. Right. And I'm still at the 2621 02:35:04,860 --> 02:35:07,140 American Enterprise Institute. Look, I think a lot of 2622 02:35:07,140 --> 02:35:10,410 conservatives viewed this as a way to constrain the 2623 02:35:10,410 --> 02:35:14,130 administrative state that regulatory agencies had expanded 2624 02:35:14,130 --> 02:35:17,190 the scope of their authority into new areas that Congress 2625 02:35:17,190 --> 02:35:20,760 hadn't clearly delineated. Now, agencies aren't going to be able 2626 02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:23,610 to do that when you are a regulator. So when I was at FDA, 2627 02:35:23,610 --> 02:35:26,790 if we issued rulemaking and we were interpreting the statute in 2628 02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:30,750 areas of ambiguity to try to apply our regulatory oversight 2629 02:35:30,750 --> 02:35:35,010 to new areas of supervision, new product areas, we generally as 2630 02:35:35,010 --> 02:35:37,320 long as we went through a rulemaking, we generally felt 2631 02:35:37,320 --> 02:35:40,740 that the courts would defer to us under Chevron doctrine. And 2632 02:35:40,740 --> 02:35:43,710 that was a reason to go through the rulemaking process so that 2633 02:35:43,740 --> 02:35:47,130 that deference would attach now that presumption no longer 2634 02:35:47,130 --> 02:35:49,650 exists. And so you're going to have to go back to Congress, in 2635 02:35:49,650 --> 02:35:53,100 many cases get explicit authority if you want to extend 2636 02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:55,800 the agency's jurisdiction into a new product area. Now, with 2637 02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:59,640 respect to FDA, specifically, I would expect that the courts 2638 02:35:59,640 --> 02:36:02,670 will still defer to FDA on fact, based decision making with 2639 02:36:02,670 --> 02:36:05,250 respect to the drug approval process or medical product 2640 02:36:05,250 --> 02:36:10,380 review, courts, and Congress has also has given the agency broad 2641 02:36:10,380 --> 02:36:13,740 grants of authority in those areas to make fact based science 2642 02:36:13,740 --> 02:36:15,300 based decisions. So 2643 02:36:15,870 --> 02:36:20,520 Adam Curry: what I'm hearing here is that the FDA is really 2644 02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:24,690 this is going to be a problem because the FDA by themselves 2645 02:36:24,900 --> 02:36:29,490 could allow rules for new categories of drugs. And, and of 2646 02:36:29,490 --> 02:36:32,790 course, you know, the drug industry is second only to the 2647 02:36:32,880 --> 02:36:36,990 to the military industry. And Gottlieb is no doubt one of the 2648 02:36:37,020 --> 02:36:41,310 premier sales guys of this whole Cabal. So instead of talking 2649 02:36:41,310 --> 02:36:47,100 about Pfizer, or Maderna, or Eli Lilly, or any other, any other 2650 02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:50,730 big pharma company, he gives us examples in the case that I 2651 02:36:50,730 --> 02:36:54,750 understand which is the vape business, particularly Joule, 2652 02:36:54,780 --> 02:36:59,070 and you know, my overall assessment is they completely 2653 02:36:59,070 --> 02:37:03,630 screwed all the little guys who were who built the industry, and 2654 02:37:03,630 --> 02:37:07,530 just by saying, Oh, you want to approve some vape juice, that's 2655 02:37:07,530 --> 02:37:11,430 gonna be a million dollars per flavor per nicotine level. So 2656 02:37:11,550 --> 02:37:14,850 put them all out of business once they were gone. Oh, Joule 2657 02:37:14,850 --> 02:37:18,540 can just come back. Now. It's okay, you can do your flavors 2658 02:37:18,540 --> 02:37:21,450 again, because you are the big guys. And we'll just take your 2659 02:37:21,450 --> 02:37:25,110 big money, and we'll all have jobs later on. So he uses this 2660 02:37:25,320 --> 02:37:27,870 as an example. And it's not looking pretty for the pharma 2661 02:37:27,870 --> 02:37:28,830 industry. Could 2662 02:37:28,830 --> 02:37:31,860 Unknown: you have gone after jewel the way you did and their 2663 02:37:31,860 --> 02:37:35,880 marketing towards kids under this new ruling? 2664 02:37:36,780 --> 02:37:40,140 Or that it's quite possible? Right. So one of the one of the 2665 02:37:40,140 --> 02:37:44,220 rules that could very likely be challenged as the agency's 2666 02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:47,850 efforts to try to regulate flavored vapes, for example, a 2667 02:37:47,850 --> 02:37:50,700 lot of what we did when we went after jewel was taking 2668 02:37:50,700 --> 02:37:54,000 enforcement actions under the existing statute and 2669 02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:57,180 regulations, which I think was pretty ironclad. I think we were 2670 02:37:57,180 --> 02:37:59,610 on firm ground, and we weren't challenged in courts. And we 2671 02:37:59,610 --> 02:38:03,510 prevailed, not under Chevron deference. But I think that 2672 02:38:03,510 --> 02:38:05,880 there is having some rules that are right. 2673 02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:09,330 John C Dvorak: So in other words, what he's saying if you 2674 02:38:09,330 --> 02:38:12,660 read between the lines, is that Chevron deference made no 2675 02:38:12,660 --> 02:38:16,950 difference in the whole thing. But somehow it's bad. Now what 2676 02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:17,610 he's gonna do? 2677 02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:18,330 Adam Curry: I think so 2678 02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:21,930 Unknown: I'm not under Chevron deference. But I think that 2679 02:38:21,930 --> 02:38:24,810 there is have been some rules that have been promulgated in 2680 02:38:24,810 --> 02:38:27,600 the intervening years, particularly around flavored 2681 02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:30,180 tobacco products where the agency could face a challenge. 2682 02:38:30,180 --> 02:38:32,610 That would be one of the more immediate places, I think you'll 2683 02:38:32,610 --> 02:38:36,720 see some litigation now, as a result of this decision. You let 2684 02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:39,750 at the top with the politics of this. It's interesting to just 2685 02:38:39,750 --> 02:38:44,100 go back to 94. When this doctrine was first established, 2686 02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:47,070 it was actually conservatives that were fighting for it, 2687 02:38:47,550 --> 02:38:49,950 because they felt that the courts were second guessing 2688 02:38:49,950 --> 02:38:52,620 regulatory agencies. Remember those regulatory agencies were 2689 02:38:52,620 --> 02:38:54,810 under the control of a Republican president at the 2690 02:38:54,810 --> 02:38:57,720 time. And they felt that the regulatory agency should have 2691 02:38:57,720 --> 02:39:00,480 more jurisdiction and not the courts. And so now you see the 2692 02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:02,790 politics of this reversed. I love 2693 02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:04,800 Adam Curry: him like, oh, it's really it's the Republicans 2694 02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:05,520 fault. Really, 2695 02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:08,370 John C Dvorak: just so you know, that is a that is disingenuous, 2696 02:39:08,370 --> 02:39:12,660 and borderlines. On a, you know, lying by omission. 2697 02:39:14,430 --> 02:39:17,130 Adam Curry: from Dr. remind everybody, yes, please. 2698 02:39:18,840 --> 02:39:22,050 John C Dvorak: In 1984, the Reagan administration decided 2699 02:39:22,050 --> 02:39:27,210 that the EPA was being too harsh with his rulings and it's in his 2700 02:39:27,210 --> 02:39:31,200 determinations and told them to back off deregulate was the 2701 02:39:31,200 --> 02:39:35,490 deregulation era, and so that the EPA saw she Okay, well, 2702 02:39:35,490 --> 02:39:38,790 we'll back off, we'll do what you tell us to do. And as they 2703 02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:43,830 backed off, they got sued for backing off. They got sued for 2704 02:39:43,860 --> 02:39:48,960 for deregulating by one of these pressure groups, one of these 2705 02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:53,250 many environmentalist groups. No, no, you can't go easy. And 2706 02:39:53,250 --> 02:39:55,950 that's when Chevron deference can be well, the EPA should be 2707 02:39:55,950 --> 02:39:58,980 able to do what it wants to do and government agencies should 2708 02:39:58,980 --> 02:40:03,450 be able to do Determine the ambiguities. And you know, we 2709 02:40:03,450 --> 02:40:07,260 don't need these court cases. It was done. For that reason he 2710 02:40:07,260 --> 02:40:10,320 leaves that out of his world. The conservators are all for 2711 02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:10,860 this. 2712 02:40:11,250 --> 02:40:13,230 Adam Curry: But to wrap it up with this final clip, 2713 02:40:13,260 --> 02:40:16,080 Unknown: I was just reading. I didn't even realize Supreme 2714 02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:19,410 Court Justice Neil Gorsuch was in the majority deciding this. 2715 02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:22,770 It was his mother, who was the former EPA Administrator and 2716 02:40:22,770 --> 02:40:26,010 Gorsuch who actually made the decision, that Supreme Court, 2717 02:40:26,760 --> 02:40:31,950 John C Dvorak: bullshit thing. Neil Gorsuch, his mom was off 2718 02:40:31,950 --> 02:40:35,730 the off out of there two years before, I think it's two years 2719 02:40:35,730 --> 02:40:40,170 before, she was not involved. They out the I like to throw 2720 02:40:40,170 --> 02:40:44,070 that in there as another moment of irony. But she, at the time 2721 02:40:44,070 --> 02:40:48,030 of the Chevron deference in 1984, she was not involved at 2722 02:40:48,030 --> 02:40:49,440 that time. She wasn't working there. 2723 02:40:50,370 --> 02:40:51,060 Adam Curry: We continue, 2724 02:40:51,090 --> 02:40:53,820 Unknown: and Gorsuch, who actually made the decision that 2725 02:40:53,820 --> 02:40:57,540 the Supreme Court upheld back in 1984, which is describing your 2726 02:40:57,540 --> 02:41:02,160 point exactly how it has changed flavors with them. I guess my 2727 02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:04,530 question is, I've had other people who are former FDA 2728 02:41:04,530 --> 02:41:07,050 officials saying, Look, this could be very bad, because it 2729 02:41:07,050 --> 02:41:09,810 could mean that Congress basically has to sign off on 2730 02:41:09,810 --> 02:41:12,810 every decision that they're making could really slow things 2731 02:41:12,810 --> 02:41:15,060 down, especially when you consider that Congress can't 2732 02:41:15,060 --> 02:41:17,580 even do its own job on time, which is coming up with the 2733 02:41:17,580 --> 02:41:21,870 budget. Are you concerned on that level? And you mentioned 2734 02:41:21,870 --> 02:41:24,420 yourself that the Congress may have to rewrite some of these 2735 02:41:24,420 --> 02:41:27,180 rules? Do you see that happening? How long would that 2736 02:41:27,180 --> 02:41:29,310 take? And how difficult of a job would that be to get through 2737 02:41:29,310 --> 02:41:30,000 Congress? 2738 02:41:30,420 --> 02:41:33,390 Yeah, with respect to FDA, I think that there is a general 2739 02:41:33,390 --> 02:41:36,690 view in Washington that they go through very careful rulemaking. 2740 02:41:36,690 --> 02:41:39,450 It's the agency issues, a lot of regulations. And if you look a 2741 02:41:39,450 --> 02:41:43,470 lot of statute, Congress gives the agency broad grants of 2742 02:41:43,470 --> 02:41:47,670 discretion by directing it to develop guidance in specific 2743 02:41:47,670 --> 02:41:50,880 areas. So in areas where the Congress has explicitly said, We 2744 02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:53,430 want you to develop a guidance to delineate what your 2745 02:41:53,430 --> 02:41:57,180 regulatory oversight is going to be in this general area that I 2746 02:41:57,180 --> 02:42:01,020 think if you read the recent Supreme Court decision, those 2747 02:42:01,020 --> 02:42:04,530 would be perceived as general grants of authority back to the 2748 02:42:04,530 --> 02:42:07,500 agency. And so I think you're going to see more of that, in 2749 02:42:07,500 --> 02:42:10,620 statute, I wouldn't be worried about the agency's decision 2750 02:42:10,620 --> 02:42:12,930 making around scientific matters, product review 2751 02:42:12,930 --> 02:42:16,650 decisions, I think it's going to be in areas where the agency has 2752 02:42:16,650 --> 02:42:20,280 stepped in to regulate new areas of technology, where Congress 2753 02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:23,790 didn't explicitly direct the agency to do that. And so those 2754 02:42:23,790 --> 02:42:27,090 aren't very common. They do exist. Laboratory developed 2755 02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:30,030 tests, as I mentioned, is one of the things that I would expect 2756 02:42:30,030 --> 02:42:33,360 to be challenged quite immediately under this Supreme 2757 02:42:33,360 --> 02:42:36,030 Court decision. But as far as the day in day out of the 2758 02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:38,970 agency's scientific decision making, I would expect those to 2759 02:42:38,970 --> 02:42:42,000 be subject to challenges. Another broad area, where I 2760 02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:44,490 think you're gonna see more challenges is around the grants 2761 02:42:44,490 --> 02:42:48,180 of exclusivity, the FDA makes a lot of determinations about what 2762 02:42:48,180 --> 02:42:51,360 exclusivity periods, different products are entitled to. Those 2763 02:42:51,360 --> 02:42:54,330 are already the subject of a lot of litigation. I think under 2764 02:42:54,330 --> 02:42:57,000 this new recent Supreme Court ruling, you're going to see more 2765 02:42:57,000 --> 02:42:58,290 challenges there. I 2766 02:42:58,290 --> 02:43:00,330 Adam Curry: think that's the big one. I didn't realize that that 2767 02:43:00,330 --> 02:43:04,080 also was part of what FDA did I say, Oh, well, you know, you 2768 02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:08,040 guys can have this for 10 years. Yeah, we determined that through 2769 02:43:08,040 --> 02:43:10,260 our scientific process. Well, that 2770 02:43:10,260 --> 02:43:13,200 John C Dvorak: has to do with the patents. Yes, are limited in 2771 02:43:13,200 --> 02:43:17,160 length and yeah, and of money making patent last vi graph, for 2772 02:43:17,160 --> 02:43:21,060 example, ever printed in some of these other, you know, real 2773 02:43:21,060 --> 02:43:25,770 money makers, that the cash cows of the farm of Big Pharma, they 2774 02:43:25,770 --> 02:43:29,220 this pens run out long ago, but they could somehow just stay 2775 02:43:29,220 --> 02:43:32,190 there. Yeah, there's some generic companies are allowed to 2776 02:43:32,190 --> 02:43:36,810 make a copy and they sell it for the same price. I mean, it's the 2777 02:43:36,810 --> 02:43:40,890 whole thing is rigged into the idea was that after the patent 2778 02:43:40,890 --> 02:43:44,010 expires, you should be able to buy these drugs generically for 2779 02:43:44,010 --> 02:43:47,520 a 10th of the price. And that was true for a while, until the 2780 02:43:47,520 --> 02:43:50,220 generic drug companies were bought up by big pharma and then 2781 02:43:50,220 --> 02:43:53,190 they jacked up the price on the generics. And they didn't allow 2782 02:43:53,190 --> 02:43:55,470 other people in the market. And I think the FDA has something to 2783 02:43:55,470 --> 02:43:58,740 do with that. Now now you guys can't make these reviews all 2784 02:43:58,770 --> 02:44:01,410 gotta be made by these guys or somebody in China, which is 2785 02:44:01,410 --> 02:44:05,430 what's going on now with a lot of drugs. This is bad. did. 2786 02:44:06,510 --> 02:44:09,240 Adam Curry: I have one last clip? It's a tick tock clip. 2787 02:44:09,270 --> 02:44:12,840 It's a big, big glut. Yeah, I know. It's a tick tock tick 2788 02:44:12,840 --> 02:44:18,570 tock, tick tock, tick tock. I know, it's a tick tock club, a 2789 02:44:18,570 --> 02:44:21,840 club clip that has been going around, it's now on YouTube on 2790 02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:26,280 the shorts. There's many of them that's been that's been going on 2791 02:44:26,280 --> 02:44:30,270 for a number of months, but it's really coming to a head and it's 2792 02:44:30,270 --> 02:44:33,270 quite concerning since we have also received one of these 2793 02:44:33,270 --> 02:44:37,350 products from Costco no less. And we need to discuss 2794 02:44:37,380 --> 02:44:39,480 Unknown: something bad is happening to the fruit in 2795 02:44:39,480 --> 02:44:42,450 America. Hundreds of people on Tik Tok are reporting that 2796 02:44:42,450 --> 02:44:45,660 anytime they buy produce from the grocery store, it's super 2797 02:44:45,660 --> 02:44:49,230 rubbery and almost feels fake. They are selling fake avocados 2798 02:44:49,230 --> 02:44:52,260 in Texas. It happened to this woman when she bought watermelon 2799 02:44:52,260 --> 02:44:55,140 for her kids as it was super stretchy and inedible 2800 02:44:56,130 --> 02:44:58,440 to my kids, and they're all bringing it right back saying 2801 02:44:58,440 --> 02:45:01,290 they don't like the texture. I can't Leave I got one I got a 2802 02:45:01,290 --> 02:45:01,710 robbery 2803 02:45:01,710 --> 02:45:05,130 watermelon. Again when this person bought avocados in Texas 2804 02:45:05,130 --> 02:45:08,490 that felt like playdough it's even been happening to bananas 2805 02:45:08,520 --> 02:45:11,310 and this popular Tik Tok or swears that there was a fake 2806 02:45:11,310 --> 02:45:14,610 blueberry made out of silicone in the pack of real blueberries 2807 02:45:14,610 --> 02:45:18,570 that she allegedly bought from Costco. Why is there a rubber 2808 02:45:18,570 --> 02:45:24,150 blueberry in my toddlers? As a result, everyone in the comments 2809 02:45:24,150 --> 02:45:26,790 is freaking out saying that the fruits are being pumped with 2810 02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:29,400 growth hormones and others are saying that they will only be 2811 02:45:29,400 --> 02:45:32,880 shopping at farmer's markets from now on as most of the time 2812 02:45:32,880 --> 02:45:35,790 the labels are accurate. And anytime you go to a different 2813 02:45:35,790 --> 02:45:39,000 country in Europe or South America, their produce tastes 2814 02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:41,190 much more flavorful. So 2815 02:45:41,190 --> 02:45:45,780 Adam Curry: this this, this is a very weird one. And I've been 2816 02:45:45,780 --> 02:45:51,540 hearing about this mainly about avocados, but you see watermelon 2817 02:45:51,810 --> 02:45:54,990 that mean you can you can bend it, you can even break it when 2818 02:45:54,990 --> 02:45:55,110 you 2819 02:45:55,110 --> 02:45:57,960 John C Dvorak: bet you can. Yes, I researched this. Oh, 2820 02:45:57,990 --> 02:46:01,740 Adam Curry: thank you. This is why there's too and it's 2821 02:46:01,740 --> 02:46:05,910 John C Dvorak: quite easy to make a watermelon that way over 2822 02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:09,420 you refrigerate it for a long time and you let it kind of it 2823 02:46:09,420 --> 02:46:12,150 kind of desiccated in the refrigerator refrigerators, dry 2824 02:46:12,150 --> 02:46:16,620 things out. And I did it. I had a bottle watermelon that about 2825 02:46:17,070 --> 02:46:20,040 two or three weeks ago I had one dropped off actually had half of 2826 02:46:20,040 --> 02:46:23,460 it was just a normal watermelon. I took a chunk of it left in the 2827 02:46:23,460 --> 02:46:26,820 refrigerator long enough and it turned into exactly that same 2828 02:46:26,820 --> 02:46:30,330 rubbery watermelon that woman has on the Tiktok which is 2829 02:46:30,900 --> 02:46:35,700 disingenuous bullcrap. And the end the rubber blueberry, she 2830 02:46:35,700 --> 02:46:38,340 said, if you listen to her carefully, she says she was 2831 02:46:38,340 --> 02:46:40,440 grinding something away at for some reason. 2832 02:46:40,590 --> 02:46:43,740 Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no, it was in the garbage disposal. 2833 02:46:43,770 --> 02:46:48,090 John C Dvorak: That's why you're saying she's grinding something 2834 02:46:48,090 --> 02:46:52,140 in the garbage disposal. And the blueberry wouldn't grind up and 2835 02:46:52,230 --> 02:46:55,320 she got it out of there and found it was if it was I don't 2836 02:46:55,320 --> 02:46:57,870 care what it was. If you have a decent garbage disposal, it's 2837 02:46:57,870 --> 02:47:00,090 gonna beat the crap out of it and it's gonna go down the 2838 02:47:00,090 --> 02:47:05,100 drain. That's a fake the rubbery watermelons of fake I haven't 2839 02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:07,860 dealt with Stunner with the avocado things about this is 2840 02:47:07,860 --> 02:47:11,670 bull crap. Well, this whole report is bull crap. It's 2841 02:47:11,670 --> 02:47:15,660 Adam Curry: a tick tock video, John. It's not a report. We 2842 02:47:15,690 --> 02:47:20,580 threw avocados out that we got from Costco. They were literally 2843 02:47:20,580 --> 02:47:24,960 like rubber that I'm not kidding you. And in Tina was aghast. 2844 02:47:24,960 --> 02:47:26,640 She's like, What is this? This is not in 2845 02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:28,650 John C Dvorak: chairs. There are bad avocados that hit the 2846 02:47:28,650 --> 02:47:37,920 market. They usually not ripe. Okay. I mean, it's not unusual 2847 02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:40,560 to find an avocado that's kind of rubbery because it's not it's 2848 02:47:40,560 --> 02:47:43,710 like looks fine inside. But it is not the right color and 2849 02:47:43,710 --> 02:47:45,870 everything but it's not right. It's not you know, it doesn't 2850 02:47:45,870 --> 02:47:48,210 have any soft, softened characteristic. You should have 2851 02:47:48,210 --> 02:47:49,740 just left let them ripen a little 2852 02:47:49,740 --> 02:47:52,440 Adam Curry: bit wouldn't wouldn't ripen. With 2853 02:47:52,440 --> 02:47:55,290 John C Dvorak: this you Well, that's odd in itself. But oh, 2854 02:47:55,290 --> 02:47:55,860 there's 2855 02:47:55,860 --> 02:47:58,020 Adam Curry: the one other thing is this APO? Have you heard of 2856 02:47:58,020 --> 02:48:03,300 the APO? This is some kind of substance that Oh, yes, 2857 02:48:03,300 --> 02:48:07,440 John C Dvorak: I have heard this. This. This spray? Yeah. 2858 02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:11,280 Yeah, that everyone's up against it. What are they putting it on? 2859 02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:11,340 I 2860 02:48:11,340 --> 02:48:14,010 Adam Curry: forgot kados avocados. Oh, well. I've 2861 02:48:14,010 --> 02:48:15,600 John C Dvorak: never seen an avocado with it on there. So 2862 02:48:15,600 --> 02:48:19,740 maybe there's something to that. But I find that this whole thing 2863 02:48:19,740 --> 02:48:23,310 seems to be very dubious. I'm not sure what the point of it 2864 02:48:23,310 --> 02:48:27,120 is. Well, to get people to go to farmers markets, I think the 2865 02:48:27,120 --> 02:48:30,000 which is a good idea. I don't have a problem with that. Well, 2866 02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:32,520 Adam Curry: you heard it here. But no, ladies and gentlemen, 2867 02:48:32,640 --> 02:48:36,240 John C. Dvorak says your watermelon is safe to eat. Your 2868 02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:39,480 blueberries are safe to eat. And don't worry that chicken on 2869 02:48:39,480 --> 02:48:41,160 United is safe to eat. 2870 02:48:42,150 --> 02:48:45,030 John C Dvorak: I didn't say that. You're putting words in my 2871 02:48:45,030 --> 02:48:49,800 mouth. Of course that will bring us to the tip of the day later. 2872 02:48:49,830 --> 02:48:50,280 All right, 2873 02:48:50,280 --> 02:48:52,770 Unknown: we'll get to that in a moment. I'm going to show my 2874 02:48:52,800 --> 02:48:56,190 move by donation to no agenda Imagine all the people who could 2875 02:48:56,190 --> 02:48:57,900 do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun 2876 02:49:04,950 --> 02:49:07,080 Adam Curry: we got Tip of the Day coming up we got some we got 2877 02:49:07,080 --> 02:49:10,140 a night we got a Dane we got a title upgrade. We have some cool 2878 02:49:10,140 --> 02:49:14,310 meet up reports. And of course, the birthdays. John first will 2879 02:49:14,310 --> 02:49:17,850 take us through to the 50s of our producers who donated some 2880 02:49:17,850 --> 02:49:20,130 treasure in our value for value model. 2881 02:49:21,360 --> 02:49:23,700 John C Dvorak: Yes, I do have a note I'm going to have to read 2882 02:49:23,700 --> 02:49:27,600 because it was a donate. It's a dame would note. Oh goody. J 2883 02:49:27,600 --> 02:49:30,030 starts us off though. from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. 2884 02:49:30,030 --> 02:49:40,770 167 90. Terry Wentz in Langley, Washington. 125 Dame read it in 2885 02:49:40,770 --> 02:49:47,430 Sparks, Nevada 123 45 Judy Schwartz and Bernie Bernie 2886 02:49:47,430 --> 02:49:48,060 Texas. 2887 02:49:48,480 --> 02:49:51,210 Adam Curry: Oh, they have a welcoming a new human resource. 2888 02:49:51,210 --> 02:49:55,230 Taylor and Logan just had a baby girl Darby Rose. Welcome to get 2889 02:49:55,230 --> 02:49:55,740 my nation 2890 02:49:55,740 --> 02:50:00,750 John C Dvorak: Derby row. 105 35 Hello, Darby bear Alaskan in 2891 02:50:00,750 --> 02:50:06,480 Houston Texas. Must be wet down there at $100 John Robert yaghi 2892 02:50:06,480 --> 02:50:11,340 getting any effects in your neck of the woods from the big 2893 02:50:11,340 --> 02:50:12,360 hurricane nothing 2894 02:50:12,360 --> 02:50:14,490 Adam Curry: yet but I do have friends in Jamaica who are 2895 02:50:14,490 --> 02:50:15,780 pretty worried right now. 2896 02:50:16,590 --> 02:50:24,210 John C Dvorak: John robbing a $100 Joan pulse I think Paul's 2897 02:50:24,210 --> 02:50:27,960 like it all she sent a note Yes, she's a dame going to be a dame 2898 02:50:27,960 --> 02:50:31,440 now and so she sent in $100 and says I'm faithfully listened to 2899 02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:37,170 every no agenda since mid 2021. My good friend, my my Maya, 2900 02:50:37,200 --> 02:50:41,250 Maya, hit me in the mouth, your media deconstruction and would 2901 02:50:41,250 --> 02:50:45,000 have meant a lot for my sanity. Thank you. And thanks to all the 2902 02:50:45,000 --> 02:50:48,390 talented producers who make the podcast so powerful. It's truly 2903 02:50:48,390 --> 02:50:51,540 the best podcast in the universe. I also listen to DH 2904 02:50:51,540 --> 02:50:57,660 unplugged and Moe facts No. With a mix of executive producer 2905 02:50:57,660 --> 02:51:00,300 donations and monthly donations accounting below I finally 2906 02:51:00,450 --> 02:51:04,140 reached Dame layaway plan and now achieve status is Damon 2907 02:51:04,140 --> 02:51:07,350 waiting if available please grant me the title Dame Joan of 2908 02:51:07,350 --> 02:51:07,800 bark. 2909 02:51:09,150 --> 02:51:10,950 Adam Curry: I think that's available it's a good one. 2910 02:51:12,060 --> 02:51:14,040 John C Dvorak: At the end nobody else has used it at the 2911 02:51:14,040 --> 02:51:17,370 roundtable I would like you get your pen out. Yep, piping hot 2912 02:51:17,370 --> 02:51:23,790 dish a veal piccata with extra capers. I forgot to cook that 2913 02:51:23,790 --> 02:51:27,180 for a while myself. I shouldn't do that as good and perfect wine 2914 02:51:27,180 --> 02:51:29,820 pairing John would you mind recommending a wine that is 2915 02:51:29,820 --> 02:51:32,820 quite that's quite expensive. All right. 2916 02:51:33,480 --> 02:51:35,880 Adam Curry: Easy does it worth paying for the roundtable stuff? 2917 02:51:37,860 --> 02:51:41,040 John C Dvorak: Yeah, is a white wine you need so let's have some 2918 02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:51,180 let's have some French any vintage of of lomandra che for 2919 02:51:51,210 --> 02:51:54,660 from any any buddy making let's do lomandra 2920 02:51:55,200 --> 02:51:56,820 Adam Curry: let's do a 2016 2921 02:51:58,440 --> 02:52:00,270 John C Dvorak: I think 2015 may be better. 2922 02:52:01,350 --> 02:52:03,840 Adam Curry: We have a 2015 Yes, we have a 2015 2923 02:52:04,590 --> 02:52:07,140 John C Dvorak: Entering game hood is quite a celebration. 2924 02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:12,240 Mantra che is your wine of the day. It's probably another guest 2925 02:52:12,240 --> 02:52:16,050 in today's market. 3000 bucks. Hopefully this notarizing 2926 02:52:16,050 --> 02:52:17,820 Adam Curry: sat back to the cellar. 2927 02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:22,080 John C Dvorak: Hopefully this notarizing time for my birthday 2928 02:52:22,080 --> 02:52:24,810 on June 13 I don't think I Oh, I forgot to put on the birthday 2929 02:52:24,810 --> 02:52:25,710 list. Oh, 2930 02:52:25,740 --> 02:52:29,160 Adam Curry: okay. Joan of bark. Hold on a second. Dirt of bark. 2931 02:52:29,310 --> 02:52:33,360 Jonah bark and she would like when is she celebrating? 2932 02:52:34,050 --> 02:52:41,970 John C Dvorak: The 30th of June. Oh, belated okay. She's never 2933 02:52:41,970 --> 02:52:49,590 been de douche. Ben de deuced and she wants a biscuit for 2934 02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:50,310 birthday. 2935 02:52:52,050 --> 02:52:54,360 Adam Curry: Man sorry about that. No, it's okay it's just 2936 02:52:54,360 --> 02:52:56,880 it's a very expensive Daming with that why 2937 02:52:56,910 --> 02:52:59,370 Unknown: they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. 2938 02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:01,020 Adam Curry: There's your biscuit on your birthday. 2939 02:53:01,110 --> 02:53:03,180 John C Dvorak: We could back it off but I think that's your 2940 02:53:03,180 --> 02:53:06,960 future. Future President everybody let's move it to a 2941 02:53:06,960 --> 02:53:08,760 2005 There you go. 2942 02:53:09,240 --> 02:53:10,140 Adam Curry: That's cheaper. 2943 02:53:12,030 --> 02:53:14,130 John C Dvorak: You know it's a probably around the same price. 2944 02:53:15,150 --> 02:53:16,590 Do we have any will be a stunner. 2945 02:53:16,860 --> 02:53:22,770 Adam Curry: Okay. 2005 lamonta Shea. The mantra Shea love was 2946 02:53:22,770 --> 02:53:25,890 John C Dvorak: as old as it is is probably killer that it needs 2947 02:53:25,890 --> 02:53:28,080 to be removed from the cellar. It's getting too old. Yeah. 2948 02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:28,440 Okay, 2949 02:53:28,470 --> 02:53:29,280 Adam Curry: we're taking it out. 2950 02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:35,280 John C Dvorak: All right, onward with Kelly spunk Berg of the 2951 02:53:35,280 --> 02:53:40,770 spunk Berg clan in Rocky Mountain, Alberta. Now 100 Julie 2952 02:53:40,770 --> 02:53:46,290 Williams in Huntington Beach. pondered. Joe Dirks in Amsterdam 2953 02:53:46,650 --> 02:53:50,190 9626 to Wabo donation 2954 02:53:50,220 --> 02:53:52,290 Adam Curry: for July 6, the uovo Meetup 2955 02:53:53,640 --> 02:53:57,210 John C Dvorak: is coming up. Sir Brian Tobias in in Gardner 2956 02:53:57,210 --> 02:54:04,110 Kansas, at 8808. Special boop Yeah, Kevin McLaughlin in 2957 02:54:04,140 --> 02:54:07,860 Concord North Carolina. 808 There he is. He's not missing a 2958 02:54:07,860 --> 02:54:12,540 day is Dr. Stuka Luna by the way. Edward Owens in Alameda, 2959 02:54:12,540 --> 02:54:14,970 California 808 And 2960 02:54:14,970 --> 02:54:17,850 Adam Curry: I believe he has achieved knighthood status he 2961 02:54:17,850 --> 02:54:22,440 says John Adam after over a year of boob donations I have finally 2962 02:54:22,440 --> 02:54:25,020 achieved knighthood status. I want to be known as Sir Fast 2963 02:54:25,020 --> 02:54:28,800 Eddie of Alameda, the island of boobs. I'd like tacos at the 2964 02:54:28,800 --> 02:54:32,430 round table and to hear my night name followed by the F 35. Guy. 2965 02:54:32,730 --> 02:54:34,830 Thank you for what you do. I look forward to each and every 2966 02:54:34,830 --> 02:54:38,490 show your pal Edward Owens soon to be served Fast Eddie of 2967 02:54:38,490 --> 02:54:41,460 Alameda, the island of boobs. We'll see on the podium. 2968 02:54:42,780 --> 02:54:46,110 John C Dvorak: Sir Dan, The Quiet Man in Alpharetta. 808 2969 02:54:46,110 --> 02:54:54,840 land and boobs today. Mars Chela Barton in Monday, Texas 7865 2970 02:54:54,840 --> 02:54:58,110 She's got a birthday coming up. Aaron Daniels in Norman, 2971 02:54:58,110 --> 02:55:06,420 Oklahoma. 77. and D douching. Unnecessary. You've been D 2972 02:55:06,420 --> 02:55:15,120 deuced. Lydia Terry dominantly in Rochester New Hampshire 76 JD 2973 02:55:15,120 --> 02:55:24,780 and Elkhorn Nebraska 7424. And, and Ron de Pierre Rick's zoo in 2974 02:55:24,780 --> 02:55:28,290 Trumbull, Connecticut 7424 2975 02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:30,660 Adam Curry: And that's our deadline for donations I 2976 02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:33,960 John C Dvorak: guess. I guess so dusty Clendon in Arlington, 2977 02:55:33,960 --> 02:55:42,480 Texas 7176. John boy Burr, bore boy born holy boy Hey boy. 2978 02:55:42,510 --> 02:55:44,340 Adam Curry: Hey farmer, Mr. 2979 02:55:44,340 --> 02:55:47,490 John C Dvorak: Hay farmer in Bristol Tennessee 704. Sir 2980 02:55:47,490 --> 02:55:55,140 becoming heroic and Scharer Ville, Indiana 6886 This jiggly 2981 02:55:55,140 --> 02:55:59,880 boobs according to him. My I don't quite get that but okay, 2982 02:55:59,880 --> 02:56:06,660 I'll think about it. Mike in Michigan 6393. He needs a D 2983 02:56:06,660 --> 02:56:14,280 Duchenne. You've been de deuced Jen of the woodlands store in 2984 02:56:14,280 --> 02:56:21,420 Hebron, Connecticut, Kentucky, to dis 808 another birthday. For 2985 02:56:21,450 --> 02:56:29,310 the dog in Stanhope New Jersey 3798 Scott mangle in Exton 2986 02:56:29,310 --> 02:56:36,180 Pennsylvania 5555 We beat Medicare he says Ryan Furley 55 2987 02:56:36,210 --> 02:56:42,180 in sir slipping time in Cherry Valley, California 5510 He 2988 02:56:42,180 --> 02:56:44,790 Adam Curry: just got his first hour and an AR 22 We said it was 2989 02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:49,650 great. Yes, we call it the boat the bone shaker. How'd you go? 2990 02:56:49,680 --> 02:56:52,470 How'd you go about get earning your helicopter license. Adam 2991 02:56:52,500 --> 02:56:54,930 Well, I was rich at the time. 2992 02:56:56,880 --> 02:57:00,720 John C Dvorak: Sir dancing Mike in Maryville, Tennessee 5454 2993 02:57:00,990 --> 02:57:06,450 another birthday call to his smokin hot wife. Damn that damn 2994 02:57:06,450 --> 02:57:09,840 damn Denise Dame didn't miles in Charlottesville, Virginia for 2995 02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:15,900 the for 20 Heather Harper in Lubbock, Texas 5333 John Bassano 2996 02:57:15,900 --> 02:57:23,550 and Madison Alabama 5272. Israel Rexy $50 donors, Samantha loom 2997 02:57:23,610 --> 02:57:31,680 Luma do Luma do in Pittsburgh 272 in de de and Diane riello in 2998 02:57:31,680 --> 02:57:36,720 Franklin, Tennessee, but 272 the rest of your $50 donors name and 2999 02:57:36,720 --> 02:57:41,730 location starting with Jordan Moreno and Salem, Tony Lange and 3000 02:57:41,730 --> 02:57:45,480 Castle Pines, Colorado, Jordan tyranny and aural South Dakota 3001 02:57:45,630 --> 02:57:52,440 foster birch in New York City. Matt Freezie in St. John's 3002 02:57:52,440 --> 02:57:56,970 Florida, Daniel a boy in Bath Michigan Jacob Martinez in El 3003 02:57:56,970 --> 02:58:01,530 Monte California, James sheremeta Sir James in Napa NOC 3004 02:58:01,530 --> 02:58:08,550 New York, Kurt Patrick and nine nameko Nanaimo. I saw like the 3005 02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:11,760 name of it, they said Nanaimo and I'm corrected one way or the 3006 02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:16,020 other. Doesn't matter. I can't pronounce it. Chris Conacher in 3007 02:58:16,320 --> 02:58:21,720 Anchorage, Michael Felix in Modesto. And last on our list in 3008 02:58:21,720 --> 02:58:26,910 Roseburg, Oregon is Leslie Walker, and I think she might 3009 02:58:26,910 --> 02:58:28,770 need a de Deus Xing 3010 02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:36,660 Adam Curry: de deuced. She got it, then thank you to all these 3011 02:58:36,660 --> 02:58:39,900 donors. We want to thank everyone who came in under $50 3012 02:58:39,900 --> 02:58:42,570 as well. We did not mention anyone under that level. For 3013 02:58:42,570 --> 02:58:46,500 reasons of anonymity, we see you 4999 I appreciate it very much. 3014 02:58:46,890 --> 02:58:50,340 And of course, anyone who comes in with the lower amount it is 3015 02:58:50,370 --> 02:58:53,610 all highly appreciated. It's how the value for value model works. 3016 02:58:53,910 --> 02:58:57,570 The Sustaining donations are critically important. You can 3017 02:58:57,570 --> 02:59:00,510 make one up yourself you as you can see from this list, we have 3018 02:59:00,510 --> 02:59:03,180 people who eventually become Knights and Dames through doing 3019 02:59:03,180 --> 02:59:05,130 that and it's really worth it. That's when you get the 3020 02:59:05,130 --> 02:59:08,250 beautiful signet ring and you get the status at the meetups 3021 02:59:08,250 --> 02:59:12,030 and we just appreciate anyone and everyone supporting the best 3022 02:59:12,030 --> 02:59:14,910 podcast in the new university your no agenda show for all of 3023 02:59:14,910 --> 02:59:20,550 you here is a goats karma. You've got karma, no agenda. 3024 02:59:20,550 --> 02:59:23,010 donations.com become a producer today 3025 02:59:29,550 --> 02:59:33,360 and we congratulate belatedly, Joan and Barbara, who celebrate 3026 02:59:33,360 --> 02:59:36,540 her birthday on the 30th Marcella Barton turns 60 today 3027 02:59:36,540 --> 02:59:40,170 Happy Birthday. Nice day to celebrate with rockets. Jenna 3028 02:59:40,170 --> 02:59:44,430 woodland shirt turns 50 Today, Erica Kooning wishes her human 3029 02:59:44,430 --> 02:59:48,630 resource open a very happy one. He is turning eight he's it's 3030 02:59:48,630 --> 02:59:50,520 either today or tomorrow depending on where you are 3031 02:59:50,520 --> 02:59:54,030 because they're in China. And Sir dancing my wishes is smokin 3032 02:59:54,030 --> 02:59:57,180 hot wife, dames and east of Maryville a very happy one. She 3033 02:59:57,180 --> 03:00:00,420 turns 54 Tomorrow happy birthday from everybody here. The best 3034 03:00:00,420 --> 03:00:01,920 podcasts in the universe 3035 03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:12,840 Unknown: don't want to be induced banned 3036 03:00:12,840 --> 03:00:15,600 Adam Curry: there she is David Kelly of the longest Island 3037 03:00:15,600 --> 03:00:19,080 becomes a baron Netis today thanks for upgrade of another 3038 03:00:19,080 --> 03:00:23,100 aggregate of $1,000 we congratulate you Dame Kelly, and 3039 03:00:23,130 --> 03:00:25,440 thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in 3040 03:00:25,440 --> 03:00:28,380 the universe. today. It's been a couple of weeks of a couple of 3041 03:00:28,380 --> 03:00:31,740 shows actually since we've had a dame or a night and we have one 3042 03:00:31,740 --> 03:00:36,120 of each. So I'm going to draw the big Fourth of July July July 3043 03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:40,380 this really the Fourth of July blade and do you have one here 3044 03:00:40,380 --> 03:00:40,680 we go 3045 03:00:40,680 --> 03:00:43,260 Unknown: I got once Independence Day blade it is. 3046 03:00:44,580 --> 03:00:47,730 Adam Curry: John Paulson Edward Owen, step right up both of you 3047 03:00:47,730 --> 03:00:51,300 are becoming members of the roundtable. The no agenda 3048 03:00:51,300 --> 03:00:54,120 Knights and Dames thanks to your contributions the best podcast 3049 03:00:54,120 --> 03:00:58,110 in the universe. And I am very proud to pronounce the Ks D as 3050 03:00:58,110 --> 03:01:02,850 Dame Joan of bark. And Sir Fast Eddie of Alameda and the island 3051 03:01:02,850 --> 03:01:11,400 of Bobe. I did not forget you brother. Headed over to no 3052 03:01:11,400 --> 03:01:14,700 agenda rings.com. After you enjoy what we have at the 3053 03:01:14,700 --> 03:01:18,180 roundtable by request piping hot dish revealed plicata with extra 3054 03:01:18,180 --> 03:01:23,400 capers and 2005 lomandra che and some tacos. Along with that we 3055 03:01:23,400 --> 03:01:27,870 have the fare of mutton and meat and no agenda rings.com Right 3056 03:01:27,870 --> 03:01:30,840 there, you'll be able to find all the information that you 3057 03:01:30,840 --> 03:01:33,630 need to send off to us including your ring size, you get that 3058 03:01:33,630 --> 03:01:36,690 beautiful signet ring, which you can use to seal your important 3059 03:01:36,690 --> 03:01:41,070 important correspondence with, with the sealing wax, which I 3060 03:01:41,100 --> 03:01:44,880 was just reading, by the way that the United States Postal 3061 03:01:44,880 --> 03:01:50,310 Service may send you a warning. If you send wax sealed envelopes 3062 03:01:50,310 --> 03:01:50,910 to the mail. 3063 03:01:52,410 --> 03:01:54,660 John C Dvorak: I get quite a few of those and ever get a warning. 3064 03:01:54,660 --> 03:01:55,290 Same here. 3065 03:01:55,290 --> 03:01:57,240 Adam Curry: I've never gotten a warning about them at all. But 3066 03:01:57,240 --> 03:02:00,030 they're saying oh no, because people do that for, you know, 3067 03:02:00,450 --> 03:02:05,190 for wedding invitations and for all kinds of moms. And 3068 03:02:05,220 --> 03:02:06,000 apparently 3069 03:02:07,020 --> 03:02:09,300 John C Dvorak: United States Postal Service has a probably a 3070 03:02:09,450 --> 03:02:12,060 good call off and just sort 3071 03:02:12,060 --> 03:02:15,000 Adam Curry: of well we have lots of mail carriers here so maybe 3072 03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:17,580 sir TJ the raffle or someone else can let us know what that's 3073 03:02:17,580 --> 03:02:20,610 all about. And once again, congratulations to our brand new 3074 03:02:20,610 --> 03:02:27,570 Dame that is Dame Jonah bark and our brand new knights are Fast 3075 03:02:27,570 --> 03:02:31,380 Eddie of Alameda, the island of boobs and whenever we say that 3076 03:02:31,380 --> 03:02:36,570 name, we have to end it with this 3077 03:02:44,280 --> 03:02:47,670 Well, we do have a meetup taking place today. But before we get 3078 03:02:47,670 --> 03:02:50,190 to that we have a couple of meetup reports. The first one is 3079 03:02:50,190 --> 03:02:53,130 from the southwest New Hampshire. The Keene meetup 3080 03:02:53,130 --> 03:02:56,280 Unknown: isn't read up report for Keene, New Hampshire, there 3081 03:02:56,280 --> 03:03:00,000 was five of us, we had about a three hour long amygdala 3082 03:03:00,000 --> 03:03:03,720 shrinking discussion about COVID. But we didn't talk about 3083 03:03:03,720 --> 03:03:13,560 Trump or Biden. It's true. What do you think about Biden but 3084 03:03:13,560 --> 03:03:16,800 about Trump, what about Trump? 3085 03:03:18,540 --> 03:03:19,500 With me? 3086 03:03:23,070 --> 03:03:24,390 Or anything like that brave 3087 03:03:24,390 --> 03:03:26,340 voice that voice was perfect. We 3088 03:03:26,340 --> 03:03:28,200 Adam Curry: could use more of that. Yeah, we 3089 03:03:28,200 --> 03:03:30,450 John C Dvorak: went Morrison to material from that voice before 3090 03:03:30,450 --> 03:03:31,620 it changes. 3091 03:03:32,790 --> 03:03:36,030 Adam Curry: Final meet up report is the Dallas Dallas Forth Worth 3092 03:03:36,060 --> 03:03:39,090 report and this of course was the birthday meet up from the 3093 03:03:39,090 --> 03:03:40,290 dirty Jersey horn. 3094 03:03:40,410 --> 03:03:46,890 Unknown: We need some NAT POP. We're coming to you from Dallas, 3095 03:03:46,890 --> 03:03:53,100 Texas. Dirty Jersey horn. Birthday Celebration 3096 03:03:59,760 --> 03:04:03,450 in the morning, we're coming to you from Dallas Texas. Lee 3097 03:04:03,450 --> 03:04:08,100 Harvey's, Matthew. Future night of the black Bayou. 3098 03:04:10,950 --> 03:04:13,410 Sir Chris from sexy Texas 3099 03:04:13,560 --> 03:04:19,170 in the morning. Hey, this is Chris in Dallas. Adam. I think I 3100 03:04:19,170 --> 03:04:22,650 have a crush on the fat lady. Is she single? You got her number 3101 03:04:22,770 --> 03:04:29,190 be my wing man. Hey, John. Let's start a harmonica Jam Band. Oh, 3102 03:04:29,190 --> 03:04:32,250 brother. I dropped it. We're still going you're gonna this is 3103 03:04:32,250 --> 03:04:35,310 dirty jersey. Har apparently somebody's birthday was a is not 3104 03:04:35,310 --> 03:04:37,860 mine. I don't know. You're talking about worry. We'll fix 3105 03:04:37,860 --> 03:04:40,260 all this and post. Don't worry about it. We'll do 3106 03:04:40,260 --> 03:04:42,300 it live. Stop the hammering. 3107 03:04:45,090 --> 03:04:48,780 Hey, anyway, we're coming to you from Dallas, Texas. We're having 3108 03:04:48,780 --> 03:04:52,740 a great time. We're having a birthday celebration in the 3109 03:04:52,740 --> 03:04:56,100 morning slaves. I'm having a great time and I hope you are 3110 03:04:56,100 --> 03:05:01,590 too. No agenda nation. 2024 you can't be oh oops I didn't record 3111 03:05:01,590 --> 03:05:01,950 sorry 3112 03:05:06,390 --> 03:05:10,260 place there it is to 3113 03:05:11,280 --> 03:05:13,380 Adam Curry: be honest about it who wouldn't want to join a 3114 03:05:13,380 --> 03:05:16,290 party like that? That's what a lot of the no agenda meetups are 3115 03:05:16,290 --> 03:05:20,370 like they really are you should join one at least once in your 3116 03:05:20,370 --> 03:05:23,670 life I guarantee you you want to go back now today you could be 3117 03:05:23,670 --> 03:05:27,900 at the longest standing member London meetup which may be they 3118 03:05:27,900 --> 03:05:31,230 may be all hammered by now that was the real ale way This of 3119 03:05:31,230 --> 03:05:35,910 course was Griffes meet up in in Kent. So hopefully we'll get a 3120 03:05:35,910 --> 03:05:38,670 meet up report from them with us always good about the promos. 3121 03:05:38,970 --> 03:05:43,050 Tomorrow in Perth, Australia, the West the WA is Western 3122 03:05:43,050 --> 03:05:47,160 Australia not Washington meet up and we know that seven o'clock 3123 03:05:47,160 --> 03:05:51,690 Australian western standard time gauge road Fremantle brewery in 3124 03:05:51,690 --> 03:05:55,320 Fremantle, Western Australia, not Washington, please send us a 3125 03:05:55,320 --> 03:05:57,900 meetup report. We'd love the reports from overseas on 3126 03:05:57,900 --> 03:06:00,750 Saturday the fears freedom meetup in old town that three 3127 03:06:00,750 --> 03:06:04,770 o'clock in Home and Away in San Diego, California. And on 3128 03:06:04,770 --> 03:06:08,580 Saturday, the barbecue a barbecue music and viewer that's 3129 03:06:08,580 --> 03:06:12,090 the robo meetup that's been promoted with the donations four 3130 03:06:12,090 --> 03:06:16,200 o'clock Dutch oh gee time in town park Lissabon. That's an 3131 03:06:16,200 --> 03:06:19,980 Amsterdam, the Netherlands show sir Joe Dirks, who has been 3132 03:06:19,980 --> 03:06:24,210 donating to promote it will be organizing that many more 3133 03:06:24,570 --> 03:06:29,490 awesome locations to visit for your meetups including Trinidad 3134 03:06:29,490 --> 03:06:34,980 and Tobago coming up. What else is there? Awesome places like 3135 03:06:35,010 --> 03:06:38,280 Fort Wayne, Indiana. There's all kinds of great places you can go 3136 03:06:38,280 --> 03:06:41,670 to a meetup. You can find it but no agenda meetup.com It's all 3137 03:06:41,670 --> 03:06:45,060 producer organized. So you all pitch in and you make it work 3138 03:06:45,060 --> 03:06:48,000 and you make friends and you start telegram groups. And you 3139 03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:51,810 all keep Gitmo nation on the map if you can't find one near you 3140 03:06:51,810 --> 03:06:57,390 start one yourself no agenda meetups.com to go hang out with 3141 03:06:58,170 --> 03:07:14,880 Tyson day. You won't be triggered. You say is like now 3142 03:07:14,880 --> 03:07:18,930 we always like to choose a fun ISO to end the show with and you 3143 03:07:18,930 --> 03:07:22,140 win today, John, just like on the last show. I won because I 3144 03:07:22,140 --> 03:07:26,850 have zero ISOs I have a lot. I know. So let's hear him. 3145 03:07:28,920 --> 03:07:30,840 John C Dvorak: Well, let's start with good luck. 3146 03:07:31,620 --> 03:07:34,530 Unknown: Good luck. And God bless for real Pharrell. For 3147 03:07:34,530 --> 03:07:36,750 Adam Curry: real for real, okay, it's not bad. 3148 03:07:38,130 --> 03:07:40,350 John C Dvorak: And we go to greener, greener, 3149 03:07:40,470 --> 03:07:46,140 Adam Curry: healthier, and more effective. Okay, all right. 3150 03:07:46,140 --> 03:07:49,680 Unknown: Yeah, I like this kind of grow and grow. Watch your 3151 03:07:49,680 --> 03:07:51,480 hose grow and grow. 3152 03:07:53,760 --> 03:07:56,340 Adam Curry: I liked the hose growing and growing. Yes, I like 3153 03:07:56,340 --> 03:07:56,940 that one. 3154 03:07:57,150 --> 03:07:58,680 John C Dvorak: And the other one is love hose. 3155 03:07:58,710 --> 03:08:03,630 Adam Curry: I love my hose. Okay, 3156 03:08:03,720 --> 03:08:07,230 John C Dvorak: these are those are both commemorating the Gay 3157 03:08:07,230 --> 03:08:10,410 Pride. Yes, yes, van. No doubt. 3158 03:08:10,770 --> 03:08:12,330 Adam Curry: No doubt, no doubt. 3159 03:08:13,350 --> 03:08:15,210 John C Dvorak: Then I got the idea. Well, you know, this is 3160 03:08:15,210 --> 03:08:17,940 the fourth of July and the thing to do is you gotta be careful. 3161 03:08:17,940 --> 03:08:21,960 Don't blow your hand off, so I thought his stay safe. Ending 3162 03:08:21,960 --> 03:08:25,980 would be perfect. And I wanted to introduce it with a medley of 3163 03:08:25,980 --> 03:08:30,960 the stay safe did not as an Isobe as a medley of to remind 3164 03:08:30,960 --> 03:08:34,320 us what was going on during COVID on some of the networks. 3165 03:08:34,350 --> 03:08:39,300 Oh, goodness. Yes. I wanted to play this stay safe. medley, 3166 03:08:39,330 --> 03:08:40,200 Haley Birdwell, 3167 03:08:40,230 --> 03:08:42,120 Unknown: thank you so much for being here. And please stay 3168 03:08:42,120 --> 03:08:44,850 safe. Congressman Adam Schiff, thank you so much for being here 3169 03:08:44,850 --> 03:08:47,490 tonight. And please stay safe. Colorado's Secretary of State 3170 03:08:47,490 --> 03:08:50,130 John Criswell, thank you so much for being here tonight. Please 3171 03:08:50,130 --> 03:08:52,680 stay safe. NBC News correspondent Priscilla 3172 03:08:52,680 --> 03:08:55,380 Thompson, thank you so much for being here tonight. And please 3173 03:08:55,380 --> 03:08:57,660 stay safe. Lee Merritt, thank you so much for your time 3174 03:08:57,660 --> 03:08:58,260 tonight. Please 3175 03:08:58,260 --> 03:08:58,920 stay safe. 3176 03:08:58,980 --> 03:09:01,620 Timothy O'Brien thank you so much for being here tonight. And 3177 03:09:01,620 --> 03:09:04,260 please stay safe state representative Jeremy Gray. I 3178 03:09:04,260 --> 03:09:07,080 want to thank you for your time tonight and please stay safe. 3179 03:09:07,110 --> 03:09:10,110 Adam Curry: Yeah, that was literally what it was wasn't it? 3180 03:09:10,560 --> 03:09:14,040 It was ridiculous and we had her own which was stay safe with 3181 03:09:14,040 --> 03:09:14,520 Jesus 3182 03:09:14,550 --> 03:09:16,890 John C Dvorak: Well, I that's what I got. So I have to it 3183 03:09:16,890 --> 03:09:19,560 there's actually two of them. I forgot this one. The first one 3184 03:09:19,560 --> 03:09:25,950 is the yell face. They say if you yell Yeah. Which I thought 3185 03:09:25,950 --> 03:09:28,440 was a bit much and there's another version of it, which is 3186 03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:32,010 a softer version, which is my would I'd like to see is just a 3187 03:09:32,010 --> 03:09:36,660 regular stay safe. I don't have I don't see. You should have 3188 03:09:36,660 --> 03:09:41,580 stay safe ISO stay safe. medley stay safe yell. Let's see. 3189 03:09:42,480 --> 03:09:44,730 Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I think this is the this is the one 3190 03:09:47,250 --> 03:09:50,820 John C Dvorak: that one yeah. That was the yeah 3191 03:09:50,850 --> 03:09:55,770 Adam Curry: now. Nothing kind of beats the love my hose. I 3192 03:09:57,600 --> 03:10:03,060 Unknown: find nothing beats the hose. Good news. It's good 3193 03:10:03,060 --> 03:10:06,510 advice John seize the day. 3194 03:10:06,750 --> 03:10:09,150 Adam Curry: Right everybody it's time for John Cena borax Tip of 3195 03:10:09,150 --> 03:10:12,090 the day as we leave you with some good advice, a tip 3196 03:10:12,120 --> 03:10:16,230 something that you can use for your travels for your life for 3197 03:10:16,230 --> 03:10:19,230 your world. John, what do you have for us today? 3198 03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:21,420 John C Dvorak: Well us as we brought it up earlier in the 3199 03:10:21,420 --> 03:10:24,660 show is that if you're on a flight, you're flying around the 3200 03:10:24,660 --> 03:10:27,420 world you're going overseas especially on the flight out and 3201 03:10:27,420 --> 03:10:30,900 not so he's not as important on the way back because you'd be at 3202 03:10:30,900 --> 03:10:38,190 home sick don't eat shrimp on an airplane. Avoid shrimp on the 3203 03:10:38,190 --> 03:10:43,200 flight out and avoid a fruit on the flight out if I recall sure 3204 03:10:43,230 --> 03:10:46,260 Adam Curry: if I recall correctly you the original 3205 03:10:46,290 --> 03:10:51,450 warning was even more dire it was don't eat seafood the night 3206 03:10:51,450 --> 03:10:53,010 before you leave 3207 03:10:53,850 --> 03:10:56,640 John C Dvorak: that's another one don't eat seafood the night 3208 03:10:56,640 --> 03:10:59,310 before you leave don't eat shrimp on a plane don't eat 3209 03:10:59,310 --> 03:11:02,070 fruit on the plane. Yes Don't eat don't In other words, don't 3210 03:11:02,070 --> 03:11:06,510 go out and have an oyster dinner the night before your flight 3211 03:11:07,260 --> 03:11:13,560 Adam Curry: and don't eat the chicken on the plane to another 3212 03:11:13,560 --> 03:11:23,670 day just a tip everybody. Jhansi Dvorak fabulous as always, that 3213 03:11:23,670 --> 03:11:26,970 wraps up our we didn't have to do it but we love you see we did 3214 03:11:26,970 --> 03:11:33,360 anyway July 4 episode and we're working throughout the whole 3215 03:11:33,360 --> 03:11:37,860 July 4 weekend. We'll be here on Sunday. Of course. We do have a 3216 03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:45,720 patriotic wink wink nudge nudge. End of show mix sir Ned wood 3217 03:11:45,720 --> 03:11:51,420 we've got Sir Chris Wilson, we've got sir seat sitter and 3218 03:11:51,420 --> 03:11:57,030 Professor Jay Jones, all laying it on you. And the stream also 3219 03:11:57,030 --> 03:11:59,670 continues right after we're done here. If you're listening on 3220 03:11:59,670 --> 03:12:04,830 your modern podcast app or to troll room.io We have Jim briny 3221 03:12:04,860 --> 03:12:09,180 progress congressional dish. This is episode 295. We'd 3222 03:12:09,180 --> 03:12:11,670 actually talk about it much today the consequences of the 3223 03:12:11,670 --> 03:12:15,630 Supreme Court. We'll have to see what she says about it coming to 3224 03:12:15,630 --> 03:12:20,280 you from the not so exploding. Texas Hill Country here in FEMA 3225 03:12:20,280 --> 03:12:23,550 Region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry 3226 03:12:24,120 --> 03:12:27,180 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we may have 3227 03:12:27,180 --> 03:12:29,790 some fireworks tonight that actually get through the fog and 3228 03:12:29,790 --> 03:12:30,900 Genesee Devora Happy 3229 03:12:30,900 --> 03:12:33,540 Adam Curry: Birthday America enjoy your Fourth of July 3230 03:12:33,540 --> 03:12:36,810 everybody remember us at no agenda donations.com until 3231 03:12:36,810 --> 03:12:41,490 Sunday adios mofos Hui Hui, and such 3232 03:13:19,140 --> 03:13:19,920 Unknown: y'all 3233 03:13:32,070 --> 03:13:39,150 douche bags in your lead these bags in my last phone call me to 3234 03:13:39,150 --> 03:13:47,550 the gizmo like the decal shop, to Maxine Waters. douchebags to 3235 03:13:47,580 --> 03:13:49,110 dissolve und 3236 03:13:51,060 --> 03:13:54,750 like very much How do y'all it's me here again with a quick 3237 03:13:54,750 --> 03:13:59,010 reminder about what's wriggling for you see a lot of people are 3238 03:13:59,010 --> 03:14:04,530 proud to be American. That's wrong. In tomorrow, the Orange 3239 03:14:04,530 --> 03:14:11,820 Man was gone. I'd be happy with my lap after the communists when 3240 03:14:12,720 --> 03:14:18,840 everything will be just fine. Hit notches with Chrome bars. 3241 03:14:19,530 --> 03:14:24,810 And let's see man milkshakes. Because the bag is an Asian 3242 03:14:24,810 --> 03:14:35,580 fascist. It's not like Nazis can be gay. Proud to be in Antifa 3243 03:14:35,580 --> 03:14:55,140 man, Roger. Free Speech growing in me and growing only route 3244 03:14:55,290 --> 03:15:05,580 stamping your revenant for To Remember folks, America's chips, 3245 03:15:05,940 --> 03:15:09,840 and it's never too late to start punching Nazis violently 3246 03:15:09,840 --> 03:15:13,920 assaulting Republicans, centrists, journalists, and 3247 03:15:13,980 --> 03:15:16,830 anyone who made Hillary lose by voting for Jill Stein. 3248 03:15:18,480 --> 03:15:22,500 We are at war with Russia. We are already on the precipice of 3249 03:15:22,500 --> 03:15:26,880 losing the freedom and independence of the nation. We 3250 03:15:26,880 --> 03:15:31,350 are no longer a free people. The CIA and FBI and Homeland 3251 03:15:31,350 --> 03:15:36,600 Security are beholden to Scott. They said something a man for 3252 03:15:36,600 --> 03:15:39,480 whom the Russians interfered with our election, Russia and 3253 03:15:40,800 --> 03:15:43,620 why does the West hate Russia? This is a 3254 03:15:43,620 --> 03:15:49,020 reality. And all of our freedoms hang by a thread the fire hose 3255 03:15:49,050 --> 03:15:53,220 of lies that is Donald Trump, tantamount to treason to the 3256 03:15:53,220 --> 03:15:57,090 most immoral decisions in the history of the free press. 3257 03:15:57,120 --> 03:16:00,030 Adam Curry: It seems like Russia is in on it. The usurper 3258 03:16:00,240 --> 03:16:03,600 Unknown: has no validity. A man who the Russians wanted to run 3259 03:16:03,600 --> 03:16:07,740 our country for them comes from Russia authority under the 3260 03:16:07,740 --> 03:16:08,760 Constitution 3261 03:16:09,120 --> 03:16:12,540 John C Dvorak: What is with this deep seated hatred of Russia 3262 03:16:13,410 --> 03:16:13,800 said 3263 03:16:13,800 --> 03:16:17,970 Unknown: something the decision to not fact check by CNN for the 3264 03:16:17,970 --> 03:16:21,840 most immoral decisions in the history of the Free Press 3265 03:16:21,870 --> 03:16:32,010 tantamount to treason. act of war. Dead is you CNN should fire 3266 03:16:32,010 --> 03:16:36,120 everybody I think that sounds pretty good. And burn the 3267 03:16:36,120 --> 03:16:43,020 goddamn place to the ground. Stay well, CNN should fire 3268 03:16:43,020 --> 03:16:47,430 everybody and burn the goddamn place to the ground. 3269 03:16:48,900 --> 03:16:51,990 Adam Curry: CNN should where's the AI to fix all that? 3270 03:16:53,130 --> 03:16:59,070 Unknown: Already wire everybody and burn the goddamn place to 3271 03:16:59,070 --> 03:17:09,750 the ground. It was about Russia at some point tonight, seal off 3272 03:17:09,750 --> 03:17:15,300 the buildings go off the air in shame. Why does the West hate 3273 03:17:15,300 --> 03:17:20,670 Russia? Fire everybody stay and burn the goddamn place to the 3274 03:17:20,670 --> 03:17:28,350 ground. CNN should Russian Stop it fire everybody. I think that 3275 03:17:28,350 --> 03:17:32,430 sounds pretty good. And burn the goddamn place to the ground. 3276 03:17:32,610 --> 03:17:39,690 Adam Curry: Where's the AI to fix all that? Already? Science. 3277 03:17:47,820 --> 03:17:55,290 Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/n A I love my house.