1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:04,020 John C Dvorak: Line up boys for your free vasectomies. Adam 2 00:00:04,020 --> 00:00:06,000 curry. John C Dvorak, Sunday, 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,060 Adam Curry: August 18. 2024 this is your award winning. Keep our 4 00:00:09,060 --> 00:00:11,460 nation media assassination. Episode 1687, 5 00:00:12,420 --> 00:00:14,340 Unknown: this is no agenda. Stop 6 00:00:15,420 --> 00:00:20,240 Adam Curry: texting me and start broadcasting live from the heart 7 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:23,420 of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region. Number six in 8 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:25,400 the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 9 00:00:25,820 --> 00:00:28,280 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where I just got 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,420 back from a fabulous Mallard club meetup. I'm John C Dvorak. 11 00:00:32,420 --> 00:00:32,600 It's 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,640 Unknown: Greg botton Buzzkill. In 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:35,720 the morning, 14 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:42,460 Adam Curry: I am so sick of these political text messages, 15 00:00:44,260 --> 00:00:50,560 and I made a mistake weeks ago. It always says, type, stop. You 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,740 John C Dvorak: know you're mocking me for having a landline 17 00:00:53,740 --> 00:00:56,380 and my cell phone in the drawer. I 18 00:00:56,380 --> 00:00:58,780 Adam Curry: never mock you for that. I never mock you for that. 19 00:00:58,780 --> 00:01:00,600 I think you're awesome for that, 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,080 John C Dvorak: and I don't have this issue well. So the worst 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,100 Hold on. One more thing, you know, for my texting, I use 22 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:12,720 Google Voice Yes, 23 00:01:12,780 --> 00:01:15,600 Adam Curry: yeah, on the web browser, I presume Yeah, 24 00:01:15,839 --> 00:01:22,519 John C Dvorak: but that's what I do. I use a web browser so well, 25 00:01:24,379 --> 00:01:26,719 Adam Curry: let me just explain what's happening. Well, 26 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:28,879 John C Dvorak: I just want to mention that I never get these. 27 00:01:29,179 --> 00:01:31,759 Why don't? Why don't I get this on Google? 28 00:01:32,420 --> 00:01:37,160 Adam Curry: Because they know that you're a loser. They're not 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,160 interested in you. Not interested if you do that stuff. 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,900 No, they don't care. I don't care. No. So if you have a 31 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:49,540 regular, regular phone number, and somehow there's a cell phone 32 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:52,480 we're talking about, yeah, and so I get in the database. And 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,840 this, this happens every four years, but this year has been 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,300 particularly bad, and it's high. It's Donald Trump, hi, it's 35 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:04,620 Donald Trump Jr, hi. It's Ted Cruz, hi. It's Tulsi Gabbard. I 36 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:08,760 mean, and then if you, and it's always ends with type stop. And 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,760 if, and that's the big mistake, never, ever, ever, ever, type 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,540 stop, because then immediately, oh, we got a live one, boys. And 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,840 then you start getting messages from all these different phone 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,240 numbers, yep, yep. And it just never, ever. It's all 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,520 John C Dvorak: you did when you type stop, was confirm that 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 you're not just a dead number correct. 43 00:02:28,340 --> 00:02:32,540 Adam Curry: And that was months ago, yeah. And it's just 44 00:02:32,540 --> 00:02:35,420 ongoing, urgent, urgent 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,940 John C Dvorak: Democrat thing too. Well, 46 00:02:39,740 --> 00:02:42,700 Adam Curry: I used to get the Democrat stuff, I guess they 47 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:48,340 determined me to be dead. But it's out of control. And it's 48 00:02:48,340 --> 00:02:51,160 from. It's not like from a, you know, one of those short code 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,460 numbers, it's from. Oh, and here's a pig butcher. Hi. I'm 50 00:02:54,460 --> 00:02:57,100 Anna. I'd like to discuss a potential job opportunity with 51 00:02:57,100 --> 00:02:59,920 you. Would you be interested in receiving more information? 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,500 Diana, 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,960 John C Dvorak: you know pig butcher? Yeah, we talked about 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,720 pig dirt soliciting, pig butchers. John, 55 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:11,580 Adam Curry: don't pretend you don't remember what pig 56 00:03:11,580 --> 00:03:15,660 butchering is. We went through this. We even got one of them on 57 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:19,440 the air. The Pig butcher is these starts with a text 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,700 message, something like Anna there, or, Hey, I have this 59 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:26,780 number, but I can't remember who this is, or want to go play 60 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:30,800 tennis. And, and then you answer pickleball, by the way, and, 61 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,840 yeah, and, and then they, you know, they, it's a long game. 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,020 You remember, they had like, 1000 of these people in Northern 63 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:45,880 Thailand or somewhere. They were all slaves in some encampment, 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,080 and they all had to do this 65 00:03:48,460 --> 00:03:50,740 John C Dvorak: in the Philippines. But, yeah, no, no, 66 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:53,680 Adam Curry: no, it was. It was a big thing. It was, it was in, in 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,920 time should be stopped, by the way. Well, Elizabeth Warren 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,680 promised she would stop that, and she lied. Yeah, 69 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:02,700 John C Dvorak: she's and that was 10 years ago. Now, 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,840 Adam Curry: I'm sure you heard about that 2.9 billion records 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:13,380 hack. You heard about it, right? Yeah, so we obviously ignored 72 00:04:13,380 --> 00:04:17,820 that because, like, okay, whatever. But someone actually, 73 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:22,760 sir, by His grace, he emailed me said, Are you purposely ignoring 74 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,060 this story? And I was like, Well, I don't like those 75 00:04:26,060 --> 00:04:29,360 insinuations. I know if he meant it that way. No, that's what he 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,980 meant, but it stayed in the back of my mind. And an NBC version 77 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:37,580 of the story came by, and then, and it's like a double whammy. 78 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:40,780 It's like, oh, I think this is what it's about. And then, oh, 79 00:04:40,780 --> 00:04:46,960 that's what it's about. This is an obvious PR, then I want to I 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,320 got a few short clips here to explain what's going on. Here's 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,180 the setup tonight. 82 00:04:52,180 --> 00:04:55,060 Unknown: Fears a massive data breach may have impacted 83 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:58,060 billions of people across the globe, according to a new class 84 00:04:58,060 --> 00:05:01,260 action lawsuit, which means so. Security numbers and other 85 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:05,040 sensitive information could now be up for sale on the dark web. 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Dark Web, a company called Jericho pictures, which operates 87 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,800 as national public data, is a Florida based background check 88 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,520 company. NPD takes data from public record databases, 89 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,740 national and state databases and court records. It then sells 90 00:05:21,740 --> 00:05:24,620 that data to a range of organizations like background 91 00:05:24,620 --> 00:05:28,340 check, websites, investigators, app developers and data 92 00:05:28,340 --> 00:05:29,480 resellers. So 93 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Adam Curry: immediately I know what's going on here. This is 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,020 one of these. I would call it a microservices company that 95 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:41,260 provides these horrible websites with your address, you know, and 96 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:43,900 I've been to several that you're like, Oh, come on, man, you've 97 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:46,960 got all the same and they all get it from the same data 98 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,340 source, and so. And I'm like, okay, so this is it even says 99 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,600 you can, you can literally subscribe to it. Oh, big hack. 100 00:05:55,660 --> 00:05:59,260 Okay, if you really want to do something with it, like those a 101 00:05:59,260 --> 00:06:02,940 holes who text me, no doubt you just go subscribe and just say 102 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:05,700 hey, give me some information on Adam curry, or give me some 103 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:10,740 information on people in Texas. So this is not some fantastical 104 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:15,300 breach, but now we're taking it one step further. We have to 105 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:18,540 reiterate that it's everywhere. It's everywhere this day's 106 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:23,720 everywhere. And initially I thought, Oh, this is this is a 107 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,420 promo for other services listen. 108 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:28,700 Unknown: According to the lawsuit, in April of this year, 109 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:33,260 a hacking group called us DoD breached NPD systems and stole 110 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:36,380 private information. The suit goes on to say in a post on the 111 00:06:36,380 --> 00:06:41,020 dark web on April 8, US DoD claim they stole 2.9 billion 112 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:42,520 records of personal data, 113 00:06:43,060 --> 00:06:46,600 Adam Curry: and by the way, so obviously it's not going to be 114 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,600 all social security numbers, because there's not 2.9 billion 115 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Americans. But what do they mean by records? Is that each line is 116 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,720 a record, so it's already very specious in 117 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,060 Unknown: records of personal data, and we're trying to sell 118 00:06:58,060 --> 00:07:03,420 them for $3.5 million that's nothing that personal data 119 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:07,440 includes names, address, histories, relatives and social 120 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,680 security numbers. In a statement on their website, MPD 121 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,980 acknowledges the breach and says we cooperated with law 122 00:07:13,980 --> 00:07:16,560 enforcement and governmental investigators and have 123 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,840 implemented additional security measures. We reached out to MPD, 124 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:24,740 but did not hear back. Since the information was posted for sale 125 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:28,160 in April, other hackers have released different copies of the 126 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,300 data, including a hacker known as finice, who posted the most 127 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:36,380 complete version for free in August, cyber security news site 128 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:40,180 bleeping computer. Some good news, the database does not 129 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:43,480 contain information from individuals who use opt out 130 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,400 services, according to the lawsuit. So 131 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,580 John C Dvorak: okay, so there we go. There's the gimmick. That's 132 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:48,760 what 133 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,420 Adam Curry: I thought and, and, you know, obviously this is of 134 00:07:52,420 --> 00:07:55,780 no value. That's why, you know someone posted it for free. Oh, 135 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,580 okay, so all by the 136 00:07:57,580 --> 00:08:01,680 John C Dvorak: way, I consider it a great compliment by you to 137 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,000 me for using the word specious. Oh, I heard you would never use 138 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,100 her entire life if it wasn't for me. I 139 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:08,880 Adam Curry: heard you chuckle. 140 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:10,620 John C Dvorak: I heard you chuckle. We're using it. 141 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Adam Curry: I have, I have used it in normal parlance as well. 142 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,240 And people go, great. Word specious is a good word. And 143 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,080 then people go, Oh, I don't think I should argue with him. 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,620 He used a word that I barely understand. Okay, so I thought, 145 00:08:24,620 --> 00:08:30,440 Yes, this is opt out services. But then it takes a twist. They 146 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,440 bring in influencers. This year 147 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,440 Unknown: has just been the year of the hackers, 148 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,600 but people on social media still panicking, biggest data breach 149 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,360 possibly in human history, as many 150 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,240 fear their private data is up for sale. So 151 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:50,620 Adam Curry: okay, why are they bringing in influencers who 152 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:54,280 usually get paid to talk about anything, and the payoff comes 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:01,080 in the final clip, as they bring in a cybersecurity expert who is 154 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:07,860 an obvious government shill because he himself was involved 155 00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:11,520 in the OPM hack. Do you recall the OPM hack? 156 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,540 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry to say that I don't, but I if you 157 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:17,280 remind me, I'm sure I will. This 158 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,660 Adam Curry: was the database of government employees that got 159 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:24,260 housed, right? And it was a big problem. 160 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,560 John C Dvorak: It was that was a big deal. Yes, that was a big 161 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:28,220 deal. So the 162 00:09:28,220 --> 00:09:31,640 Adam Curry: fact that this guy was in that data breach means 163 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,360 that he's a government chill and listen to what he has to sell 164 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:39,200 for on this concern. Remember, this is NBC, not some local 165 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,740 yokel. 166 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Unknown: More on this concerning data breach and what it means 167 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,160 for you. I want to bring in cyber security expert David 168 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Kennedy. 169 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,580 This is a background check checking company that basically 170 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:50,800 looks at, you know, making sure you don't have a record if you 171 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,380 go to a job employment. But they have access to all of these 172 00:09:53,380 --> 00:09:56,560 national databases that can pull information on any US citizen. 173 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,020 And there's hundreds, if not 1000s, of these organizations, 174 00:09:59,020 --> 00:10:01,680 you know, background check. Check facilities companies 175 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,500 around the country, we can pretty much assume that this is 176 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:07,260 the largest data breach we've ever seen around social security 177 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:09,960 numbers in the history. I mean, I was impacted by OPM, which was 178 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,980 the data breach around classified top secret folks are 179 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:16,500 contractors or folks that were in the military. I was part of 180 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:18,780 that as well. Two things that are really important to notice 181 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:21,260 that, you know, social security numbers in general are such a 182 00:10:21,260 --> 00:10:24,380 legacy piece of data, we need to move to more of a digital 183 00:10:24,380 --> 00:10:26,780 format. The government really needs to be pushing for more 184 00:10:26,780 --> 00:10:29,420 digital ways of identifying individuals that are unique to 185 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:32,300 an individual. Social Security numbers are never designed to be 186 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:34,880 a security mechanism. I mean, they're designed like the 50s 187 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,340 and 40s, and I think a lot of has changed since then around 188 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:39,560 technology. So we need to do a better job around social 189 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,020 security numbers and how we actually protect people's 190 00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:43,840 personal information. Personal Information, and 191 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,700 Adam Curry: that's what it's all about. There's a federal class 192 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:51,640 action lawsuit against this company, which, I don't know 193 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,180 what that means exactly, a federal class action lawsuit, 194 00:10:55,660 --> 00:10:58,720 John C Dvorak: but What? What? Yeah, yeah. This makes no sense. 195 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,200 Yeah. It's 196 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Adam Curry: they literally, I didn't have it in the clip, 197 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,220 literally called a federal class action lawsuit. So I guarantee 198 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:10,020 you that we are going to see someone who has been you know, 199 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:13,680 is some through some lobbying firm, no doubt, is going to be 200 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,940 touting that we need to upgrade this outdated, antiquated system 201 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:21,980 of using social security numbers as a way to identify yourself. 202 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,700 John C Dvorak: It's obvious. What do they you have? You 203 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,160 looked into this, whether you propose, well, they 204 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,140 Adam Curry: haven't pronoun. It's coming this. They're just 205 00:11:30,140 --> 00:11:31,460 getting started. That's why they 206 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,100 John C Dvorak: it doesn't make sense. Whether you need to use a 207 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:34,880 bigger number, 208 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Adam Curry: no, they're going to give us digital ID from the 209 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,720 government. And how 210 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,560 John C Dvorak: come that can't be stolen? Of course, it can. 211 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:45,280 Adam Curry: It's easy. The whole thing is bull crap. No, no, this 212 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,720 is a government move. It's a government move. It's obvious. I 213 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,900 mean, you hear what the guy says, Oh, this is antiquated. We 214 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:57,040 should be doing something else. Of course, they've been wanting 215 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,400 this. They want this. They want us all to have some kind of 216 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,080 newfangled government ID, just like Australia launched. They're 217 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,600 doing it now. This is, this is 218 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,940 John C Dvorak: unavoidable, Real ID in a sheep's clothing. 219 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,200 Adam Curry: Correct, correct. That's exactly what it is, Real 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,160 ID. But then digital. They want to be digital. And they want to 221 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,260 tie your vaccinations you 222 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:23,120 John C Dvorak: want to make it digital? Ai, 223 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:31,580 Adam Curry: they might, they might. So once I, once I saw 224 00:12:31,580 --> 00:12:36,320 that guy come in, I'm like, oh, okay, I get it. I get it. 225 00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:41,140 Everyone's running off to the to freeze their credit. Believe me, 226 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:45,340 I hear ice. Oh, I am all the ladies are going nuts on the 227 00:12:45,340 --> 00:12:46,720 text groups. Oh, 228 00:12:48,340 --> 00:12:50,860 John C Dvorak: there was, there's a commercial on TV that 229 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:56,200 actually exploits this, this fear. Crocker, stop my stop my 230 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,080 credit card. Oh, there I found, I found my card. It was in my 231 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,880 purse. Oh, Crocker, turned back on. Turn it back on. Have you 232 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,840 seen this commercial? No, 233 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,340 Unknown: I haven't. I haven't. Yeah, 234 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:06,540 John C Dvorak: well, 235 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:08,640 Adam Curry: the OP, I mean, the opt out service is just a 236 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,980 temporary thing, I mean, and that's exactly the point. Is, 237 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:18,240 all of our information is out in these databases. It's amazing 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,920 what they have on me, everything, every you know, and 239 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,860 the minute you buy a house, unless you and I, I should have 240 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:27,860 been smart and put it into a, you know, what is it? It's like 241 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:35,120 as a term for it, not a you can put it in escrow, not escrow, 242 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,700 some other term this goes where you just hold the money. No, you 243 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:41,480 can put it into some kind of entity. Yeah, probably 244 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:44,020 John C Dvorak: the thing is, these database, because I look 245 00:13:44,020 --> 00:13:46,480 at these things all the time, a trust, that's right, trust, 246 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,660 thank you. Yeah, you can do a Trust's opinion, yes. So you 247 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,200 look at these things, you look at these things, and it's like 248 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,800 you look yourself up and these, they're these things are they 249 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,840 cross their cross referencing issues are really problematic. 250 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:04,080 This is why you get if you recall the people out there who 251 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,260 are longtime listeners, I remember Adam curry getting 252 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:10,620 pulled aside every time he came in out of the country because of 253 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,740 a guy in I guess it was North Dakota or 254 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:18,900 Adam Curry: Oklahoma, and he was also a pilot. And this was 2006 255 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,620 I think so it wasn't that long. After 911 I lit, I remember the 256 00:14:24,620 --> 00:14:28,220 one time because it happened five, six times in a row, and I 257 00:14:28,220 --> 00:14:31,040 recorded it once. Yeah, and, well, the time I remember most 258 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,460 is when, because, of course, this was me video days pod show. 259 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:40,900 So I flew virgin upper class, which was great. I mean, Richard 260 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:43,420 Branson man, he gave me bathrobes for Christmas. Those 261 00:14:43,420 --> 00:14:47,320 days are over, long gone. And then I remember when media, when 262 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,700 I left me, whatever it was, like, all of a sudden, the 263 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:54,280 number I had to call for reservations wouldn't answer 264 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,360 anymore, like I was off the list very quickly. You don't have the 265 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,980 miles, you're no good. You. But one time I was so I'm sitting in 266 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:06,420 the front, and they say, Oh, Mr. Curry, could you come to the 267 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:10,740 front when we landed at San Francisco? And I went to the 268 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:13,500 front, and there's two agents, like, Oh, hey, and they 269 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,980 recognize me. And I thought, I literally thought they were 270 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:20,840 giving me some special service. Like, hey, you know, come with 271 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 us. And I'm walking like, Hey, this is really cool guys. And 272 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,580 you could see they were uncomfortable and embarrassed. 273 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,040 And it turns out I was going into, you know, special 274 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,640 screening, and they opened up my suitcases and like, what is 275 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,960 going on? And then the one time I said, Why can't I get into the 276 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,720 country? Well, you know, there's all kinds of issues. And I wave 277 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,380 my passport, does this not give me permission to come into my 278 00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:44,140 own country. And then they, they held me for another two hours, 279 00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:48,880 or you're one of those guys, well after the fourth time. And 280 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,880 then we complained about it endlessly on the show. And 281 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,160 John C Dvorak: yes, we did. We complained endlessly on the 282 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,140 show. I think somebody finally heard it, yeah? And 283 00:15:56,140 --> 00:15:58,960 Adam Curry: they ended it. They ended, they ended the terror. 284 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,320 Yeah. It was a 285 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,440 John C Dvorak: Yeah. It was ridiculous. Actually, it was 286 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Yeah. But if you look at your own databases, and sometimes 287 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,920 some people have gotten somehow you can manage to, most of these 288 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:16,260 guys will, will kind of cloak your stuff, your information, if 289 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:19,260 you, if you tell them to, they they have to, I think they do. 290 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:22,100 So they will. They'll take a lot of this information offline, but 291 00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:24,860 there's too many. There's all these different companies doing 292 00:16:24,860 --> 00:16:27,320 this. Yeah, and you start looking at it, you start 293 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,200 discovering that, well, that's interesting. I own property in 294 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Covina, and, oh, well, that's That's funny. I seem to be have 295 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:43,000 money do me in Covina or whatever. I mean, there's just a 296 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,940 there's a lot of this is the problem with these databases, 297 00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:49,420 and there's a problem with dossiers. Yes, they get you 298 00:16:49,420 --> 00:16:53,380 this. Like the time I got a call from the IRS once, I think I've 299 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:55,420 told the story on the show, well, tell it again. I don't 300 00:16:55,420 --> 00:16:58,000 remember if we, guy comes up and calls me, and there's not 301 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,840 supposed to do this, by the way, but they do it. And no matter 302 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,380 what they say, they do it, because it's been done. And so 303 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:06,780 the guy from the IRS calls me, says, we're waiting, we're 304 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:09,600 waiting for your payment. You always says this amount of 305 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,060 money, we don't understand why you haven't gotten back a hold 306 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:16,080 of us. And he's reading me the riot act. And I said, I don't 307 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,020 know what you're talking about. And you're going, well, you job 308 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:23,900 all. I said, Wait a minute. What's my social security 309 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:29,180 number? Ah, good one. And he said, and he gives me a number, 310 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,320 yeah, not 311 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:30,980 Adam Curry: your number. 312 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,220 John C Dvorak: I said, That's not my number. Where do I where 313 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:36,620 am I supposed to be living? He says, You're you're in Kansas 314 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:42,760 City. I said, I'm in all I'm in Albany, California right now. He 315 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,120 says, oh, and because I know there's a writer, this is funny. 316 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:49,180 There's a writer named John Dvorak that wrote for the Kansas 317 00:17:49,180 --> 00:17:55,540 City Star in Kansas City, obviously, the IRS taxes, by the 318 00:17:55,540 --> 00:17:58,480 way, this should not be public information, but I guess it is 319 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,080 now that I mentioned it. And so I said, No, no, no, I'm the you 320 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,680 went to John Dvorak. That's a writer for The Kansas City Star, 321 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,060 not me. You got the wrong guy. And the guy went into a massive 322 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:12,840 apology. Well, 323 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,740 Adam Curry: you know, John, if we just had government ID, none 324 00:18:16,740 --> 00:18:20,160 of this would happen anymore. You'd be safe. You'd be safe. 325 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:20,900 Yeah. 326 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:23,300 John C Dvorak: Well, I have, we have, actually, for this show, 327 00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:28,280 and personally, we have other numbers that we use for the IRS. 328 00:18:28,340 --> 00:18:32,420 Yeah, we're running numbers. We don't use our social security 329 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:37,760 numbers anymore because of we actually had an issue. Mimi had 330 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:44,140 a problem with somebody filing associate a tax return with our 331 00:18:44,140 --> 00:18:47,020 numbers and then getting a bunch of money. Now we have to 332 00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:51,520 literally hand associate our tax filing. You don't have to do 333 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:59,260 this. No, no person where Mimi has to go into Silverdale and 334 00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:01,620 she drops it off and, oh, hey, 335 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,140 Adam Curry: it's been a year, 336 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,160 John C Dvorak: and it's like, it's, this is the problem that 337 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,920 everyone because of this nonsense. Yeah, 338 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Adam Curry: if only we had some kind of digital 339 00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:17,400 John C Dvorak: anything. And you know it, and I know it, you have 340 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,620 to have a secret number that nobody knows, but it 341 00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:23,780 Adam Curry: will give them so much more to connect to it. You 342 00:19:23,780 --> 00:19:28,940 see, that's the point that and, and I'm sure it's Palantir or 343 00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:33,140 some other company, it's going to surface. Just keep everybody, 344 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:36,200 keep your eyes open. There's going to be some company and 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,500 some Congress critter is going to say, Hey, I propose a bill, 346 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:44,620 and it will be, and it probably going to be Elizabeth Warren, 347 00:19:44,620 --> 00:19:46,540 that'll be Senator, but that 348 00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:49,600 John C Dvorak: would be ironic. No, not at all. She can't do 349 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,020 anything. What happened to Rachel? I mean, okay, Rachel's 350 00:19:53,020 --> 00:19:54,940 gone. I guess she got rid of her. No, listen, 351 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,180 Adam Curry: Warren will say, I've been on this for 10 years. 352 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:01,800 No one has done anything about it. I have the final solution 353 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,720 now. It'll be Bose on one of her other benefactors, some tech 354 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,200 company is going to That's funny. It was Bose last time 355 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,220 with the hearing aids. 356 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,680 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Bose. Well, do you know the problem with 357 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,060 Bose? I will say, Oh, here we 358 00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:17,220 Adam Curry: go. Here we go. Bose. 359 00:20:17,219 --> 00:20:20,419 John C Dvorak: Bose is litigious. Oh, are they know, 360 00:20:20,959 --> 00:20:23,359 yeah, they're very and so there's something when you're a 361 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,119 writer in working in especially trade magazines, 362 00:20:27,079 --> 00:20:28,999 Adam Curry: bad Bo's, rocks, okay, gone. 363 00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:32,420 John C Dvorak: You would be you, you there was a company. There's 364 00:20:32,420 --> 00:20:35,360 a computer company. I can't remember the name of them, but 365 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,620 everybody knew that you would never they would just never get 366 00:20:39,620 --> 00:20:42,520 mentioned. What happens? You just stop mentioning him as a 367 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,020 player. Uh, they're just they are blackballed, blacklisted 368 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,200 Bose. And you blacklist companies if you're a writer 369 00:20:50,380 --> 00:20:55,000 writing about a product, oh, you blacklist price, and Bose is one 370 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,020 of them, because Bose sued is very well known. And once this 371 00:20:59,020 --> 00:21:03,780 happened to Bose is blacklisted for being discussed. They sued 372 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,660 Consumer Reports. Of all people, really, this was years and years 373 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:13,500 ago. Wow. Bose had these, this weird speaker system. Is that 374 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:16,500 the 902 or something, somebody in the chat room might remember 375 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:16,980 it. It was 376 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:19,980 Adam Curry: 901 I'm looking at it. There's an actual wiki page 377 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:24,320 about it, the Bose one the review expressed skepticism of 378 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,440 the system's quality and recommended that consumers delay 379 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,780 purchase until they had investigated for themselves 380 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:33,440 whether the loudspeaker systems unusual attributes would suit 381 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:33,860 them. 382 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:39,620 John C Dvorak: Yeah, they were a I had given, been given a demo 383 00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:43,300 of that I thought they sounded good, personally, and but they 384 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:46,600 did have a they had a kind of they didn't have a sound stage 385 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,960 that was easily defined for people who are audio files. You 386 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,240 know what I'm talking about, where, you know where the 387 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,360 saxophone is right there. You know exactly where it is that 388 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,360 stuff would be floating around a little bit. And so Bo sued him. 389 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,380 And once they did that, they got blacklisted by everybody who 390 00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:04,560 heard about this, I'll bet. And by blacklisting, I mean, you 391 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,020 just wouldn't write about them. I'm not going to even compare. 392 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:10,260 And the funny thing was, they did make some tremendously good 393 00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:13,200 speakers, not those, necessarily, but other speakers 394 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,240 that were quite good, but that Nope, they wouldn't get 395 00:22:15,239 --> 00:22:18,479 Adam Curry: no I will say their noise canceling aviation 396 00:22:18,479 --> 00:22:21,739 headsets are pretty much standard now. That they are by 397 00:22:21,739 --> 00:22:22,999 far the best 398 00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:26,300 John C Dvorak: that could be. Everybody sure they're, they're, 399 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:30,980 they're probably regretful that whoever the attorney was that, 400 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,220 because Consumer Reports is nuts. 401 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,300 Adam Curry: That's dumb. That's very dumb, especially 402 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:39,920 John C Dvorak: over something that you just read, which is 403 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,420 just minor. It's a minor complaint, yeah, basically it 404 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:48,280 was, yeah, check this out before you buy it. 405 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040 Adam Curry: Oh God. And I remember back in the day when we 406 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,000 had our stereo towers, yeah, remember those stereo towers? 407 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:57,160 John C Dvorak: I still have a pair. Oh, my, 408 00:22:57,340 --> 00:23:01,500 Adam Curry: oh my individual rack elements, Bose. You know, 409 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:04,020 if you had Bose speakers, it was, I mean, it wasn't quite B 410 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:07,020 and O, but, oh, you got Bose speakers. Oh, it's got to be 411 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:10,800 good. I wonder. I wonder if they really lost a lot of market 412 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,040 share. 413 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,100 John C Dvorak: I think they did. They just it was a bad idea. 414 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:18,060 Don't people out there in manufacturing or doing product, 415 00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:23,720 do not be very careful about suing reviewers, especially, you 416 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,320 will never be reviewed again, ever. Consumer Reports, which is 417 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:31,160 Consumer Reports, of all of them, they, you know, Consumer 418 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,240 Reports doesn't. They're not. They don't, you know, they don't 419 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:38,780 review everything. So there's a lot of comparison reviews that 420 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:42,700 they could do. But when they're as honest as they can be. I'm 421 00:23:42,699 --> 00:23:46,479 Adam Curry: going to move to another scam, another government 422 00:23:46,479 --> 00:23:51,399 scam. They keep ramping it up, and it's just funny to listen to 423 00:23:51,459 --> 00:23:51,759 Doctor 424 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,220 Unknown: John. I did want to ask about a breaking development 425 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:56,920 we're following. The World Health Organization has declared 426 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,040 the current M pox outbreak in Africa a global health 427 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,240 emergency. Sweden had the first reported case of the strain 428 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,960 outside of Africa. And pox outbreak 429 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,900 Adam Curry: an MPEG, she said, an MPEG outbreak. We didn't MPEG 430 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:10,320 outbreak. 431 00:24:10,499 --> 00:24:13,559 John C Dvorak: We added an impact. Took place about 20 432 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:14,039 years ago. 433 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,820 Unknown: God, we had an impact pox outbreak here in the US, not 434 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:18,660 long ago. So 435 00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:21,620 how concerned should we be about this resurgence, and at 436 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:24,440 this point, it's going to be rare outside of that area there, 437 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:28,100 although today, we were just notified that Sweden has their 438 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,700 first case of M pox, and it's this clay one variant they're 439 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:34,340 talking about, it tends to be more contagious and more 440 00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:37,400 dangerous is from somebody who had gone to Africa, gotten it 441 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,460 and brought it back to Sweden so it could spread globally. We saw 442 00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:43,840 that in 2022 we just need to be aware of that, and that means 443 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,060 doing the things that you need to stay safe, and that's 444 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,500 basically not touching anybody that has M box because it's a 445 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:54,280 contact related infection. And if you need to get vaccinated, 446 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560 because your high risk factors get vaccinated. And 447 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,959 Adam Curry: just a reminder to everybody, when we have this in 448 00:24:58,959 --> 00:25:03,419 2022 It was only men who have sex with men. It wasn't gay men. 449 00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:07,679 It was men who have sex with men. That was it was baffling. 450 00:25:07,979 --> 00:25:11,999 And men who have sex with men stood in line for hours to get 451 00:25:11,999 --> 00:25:15,659 their M pox vaccine. Remind us again what this is. Doctor John. 452 00:25:15,659 --> 00:25:16,139 People hear 453 00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,660 Unknown: this and they go, Oh, covid. Can you just remind us 454 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:19,800 what M pox is, what 455 00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:22,579 it entails, and pox is a virus is very closely related to 456 00:25:22,579 --> 00:25:25,579 smallpox and the chickenpox, and so it's very contagious, and 457 00:25:25,579 --> 00:25:29,059 unfortunately, this case, it can be deadly as well. Symptoms 458 00:25:29,059 --> 00:25:31,759 right there, the biggest ones are the rash they get, which 459 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,519 looks like a chickenpox rash, and those swollen lymph nodes. 460 00:25:34,639 --> 00:25:37,459 When they get to that stage, that's when they're infectious 461 00:25:37,579 --> 00:25:40,219 as a contact infection. So if you touch them or touch 462 00:25:40,219 --> 00:25:43,059 something they touched and maybe had gotten the virus on. You can 463 00:25:43,059 --> 00:25:44,199 get it as well that way. 464 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,360 Adam Curry: So it's interesting, because this doesn't really have 465 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,940 the hallmarks. And what was great about covid is you 466 00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:50,440 couldn't see if someone had it. 467 00:25:51,819 --> 00:25:57,219 John C Dvorak: That was the best Yeah, asymptomatic transmission. 468 00:25:57,219 --> 00:26:00,719 Asymptomatic transmission, which is bull crap, but that's what it 469 00:26:00,719 --> 00:26:01,499 was, yeah. 470 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,620 Adam Curry: So, so it's nowhere near it, but I can see where a 471 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:08,700 lot of people the mask wears in the cars, they'll be, oh, monkey 472 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:10,320 pox, don't touch me. Stay away. 473 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:14,399 John C Dvorak: Monkeypox, you go to the voting machine and you do 474 00:26:14,399 --> 00:26:17,459 touch the voting machine, you'll pass it on. You don't want that. 475 00:26:17,459 --> 00:26:20,119 You want to mail in voting. Mail in voting. Yeah, 476 00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:21,859 Adam Curry: here's a professor in London. 477 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:25,640 Unknown: It is inevitable that this strain of this new strain 478 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,240 of M parks, 479 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,660 Adam Curry: it's a new strain of impact. It's a Claude one that 480 00:26:29,660 --> 00:26:33,680 started off in, sorry, the clade one. It's not Claude, but clade 481 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:34,880 balls 482 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:40,220 Unknown: and parks that started off in 2024, from the Democratic 483 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,680 Republic of Congo from the 484 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:43,659 Adam Curry: Democratic Party. I thought she was going to say, 485 00:26:43,659 --> 00:26:46,179 wouldn't that have been funny? That's exactly right. 486 00:26:47,019 --> 00:26:51,099 Unknown: In 2024 from the Democratic Republic of Congo. 487 00:26:51,099 --> 00:26:53,859 But it's now spread to at least nine neighboring countries. Will 488 00:26:53,859 --> 00:26:57,519 come to the UK because of international time. That doesn't 489 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,039 mean it will spread widely within the 490 00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:02,820 Adam Curry: Why tell us? Well, just listen, it's almost done, 491 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,140 because 492 00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:07,320 Unknown: in the UK, we have the ability to diagnose and do 493 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,800 contact tracing and also to provide vaccination to people 494 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,760 who've been exposed. 495 00:27:11,819 --> 00:27:14,399 Adam Curry: Okay, so we're hearing the same things that we 496 00:27:14,399 --> 00:27:19,919 like with our pandemics, contact tracing, testing, by the way, 497 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:25,999 the test for mpox is PCR, so everybody has it, the 498 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,460 Unknown: declaration of a public health emergency of 499 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:32,120 international concern is helpful because it allows the vaccine to 500 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,060 be emergency licensed in those countries. Oh, 501 00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:40,960 Adam Curry: it's helpful if you have one of those W who major 502 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,260 concern classifications, because then you can do vaccines under 503 00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:47,920 emergency use authorization, no testing of the vaccine needed. 504 00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:52,000 Unknown: And there has been some promises of donations from 505 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,220 stockpiles, both in Europe and the US, 506 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,720 John C Dvorak: donations of mpox. Now vaccines 507 00:27:59,980 --> 00:28:02,760 Adam Curry: now on German television, German television. 508 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:09,720 Dr Wolfgang vorda came out. EB said, and it's available in 509 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,060 German. Obviously. He said, This is nonsense. This is I'll 510 00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:18,300 translate on the fly. This is so absurd, even that doctors would 511 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,920 parrot this information and let themselves be fooled, because 512 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000 when there are local boils on the body with these monkey pox, 513 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,660 they come with strong pain. Well, my God, isn't that typical 514 00:28:29,660 --> 00:28:34,040 of shingles as well diagnosing they should at least ask 515 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,620 themselves, what is this monkey pox? Just because of this test, 516 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:46,360 this PCR test, which they are marketing, the monkey, the mpox 517 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240 test marketing for a lot of money. This is just another one 518 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,100 of these scams they're pushing. He says. He says, wait for it. 519 00:28:54,100 --> 00:29:03,600 He says, this is shingles as a result of immune immune system 520 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,380 issues from people who have been vaccinated with the mRNA 521 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:08,040 vaccine. 522 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,100 John C Dvorak: Well, I do have one more anecdote. So a friend 523 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:20,780 of mine and his wife, famous guy and his wife live up the hill. 524 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:23,480 Both went and got the shingles. 525 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:24,920 Adam Curry: Her name's Jack, and Jill 526 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,880 John C Dvorak: went up the hill. She both got the shingles 527 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,100 vaccine. And she, within days, got shingles course. And so I 528 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:39,620 was over visiting, and then she shows she showed it. She got 529 00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:43,480 this huge rash, I have painful rash on her arm, and it's like 530 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,700 it looks like hell. And I said, you just what? Yeah, we just got 531 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:51,160 the vaccine. We just got vaccinated because the doctor 532 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,740 chose we should get shingle, which I've been told to oh, you 533 00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:56,260 should get shingles vaccine. No, oh, yeah. They're telling 534 00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:59,140 everybody to do that. Yeah, yeah, because it's a money 535 00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:01,920 maker. Somebody. This is vague. There's somebody's getting bit. 536 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,220 There's kickbacks involved here. This has gone out of control. 537 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:08,340 This should be illegal for vaccine companies or 538 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,820 pharmaceutical companies to kick back anything to doctors ever. 539 00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:14,100 Should be. It should be a felony. 540 00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:16,679 Adam Curry: But if you look at some of the pictures online, 541 00:30:17,339 --> 00:30:21,439 they show now, remember, autoimmune blistering disease 542 00:30:21,439 --> 00:30:25,399 was on the Pfizer list of adverse events of special 543 00:30:25,399 --> 00:30:28,939 interest for their mRNA vaccine. No, that was in the Pfizer 544 00:30:28,939 --> 00:30:32,359 documents. Remember the ones they wanted to lock down for 72 545 00:30:32,479 --> 00:30:33,319 years? 75 546 00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:36,980 John C Dvorak: Yes, 70 years. No, there's no reason anyone 547 00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:37,940 should look at this. 548 00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:40,780 Adam Curry: So it's very possible. And you know, now 549 00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:43,420 we're a couple of years into it, and I mean, we're seeing all 550 00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:50,260 kinds of amazing things, like prostate cancer, particularly in 551 00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:56,020 younger people. More young people have the cancer than 552 00:30:56,020 --> 00:31:01,740 older people now. And I'm not trying to scare anybody, but for 553 00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:06,840 sure, don't get suckered into some mpox vaccine. And shingle 554 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,440 sucks, but it's, it's survivable, you know, I don't 555 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,920 know. I, you know, they have very small numbers of of kids in 556 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Africa who have died. And you know, none of them look at that 557 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,520 healthy. They don't look very healthy to start with. But I, I 558 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:26,360 certainly would believe, just like they can't figure out. We 559 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 can't figure out these cancers. We have looked at everything 560 00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:29,960 except 561 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,760 John C Dvorak: we can't figure out this. All of a sudden, 562 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,700 there's athletes dying on the field. We can't, well, that's 563 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,740 always been going on, yeah, yeah. We 564 00:31:36,739 --> 00:31:38,959 Adam Curry: can't figure it being reported more, yeah. We 565 00:31:38,959 --> 00:31:43,539 can't figure it out. And now this, and to me, it looks like 566 00:31:43,539 --> 00:31:47,379 shingles. I've seen shingles, and shingle shows up in 567 00:31:47,379 --> 00:31:50,739 different ways, but it's all these very painful blisters, and 568 00:31:50,739 --> 00:31:53,499 the last thing you want to do is scratch it. You know, it just 569 00:31:53,499 --> 00:31:53,739 gets 570 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,980 John C Dvorak: worse. Because what makes it makes my butt hurt 571 00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:57,820 thinking about it, 572 00:31:58,239 --> 00:32:00,239 Adam Curry: you know, there's your opening right there. Makes 573 00:32:00,239 --> 00:32:04,319 my butt hurt thinking about that's not gonna be acceptable. 574 00:32:04,379 --> 00:32:07,259 I'm still isoing it for prosperity. Yeah, 575 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,660 Unknown: prosperity, 576 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,260 Adam Curry: I glad you caught that, but I would hate to think 577 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:20,780 that they are lying to us about this being a side effect, which 578 00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:23,000 was listed in the documentation. 579 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,340 John C Dvorak: That's an interesting I forgot about, that 580 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:29,900 could be listed in the in the documentation. Yeah, 581 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:35,540 Adam Curry: all right, I'll just get us started with some very 582 00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:40,480 obvious media simple, simple media deconstruction, very, very 583 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,160 simple. And why is it simple? Well, it's simple because the 584 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,780 media lies, and is certainly in the United States, but I think 585 00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:54,460 in general, most media comes from a Marxist propagandistic 586 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:59,020 background, even Fox News. Let's listen. Let's not kid ourselves 587 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:07,260 about it. And I'm sure we'll, we'll get into the the economic 588 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,560 report, economic suggestions, economic ideas from Democrat 589 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,920 apparent nominee, Kamala Harris. Or is it Kamala and she rolls 590 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,720 out an interesting extra tax credit. Under 591 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,500 Unknown: my plan, more than 100 million Americans will get a tax 592 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:37,460 cut, the Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit. 593 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:37,580 How? 594 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Through which millions of Americans with children got to 595 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,660 keep more of their hard earned income. We know it works, so as 596 00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:56,800 President, I'll not only restore that tax cut, but expand it. We 597 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,140 will provide $6,000 in tax relief to families during the 598 00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:07,140 first year of a child's life, that is a vital, vital year of 599 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:12,360 critical development of a child, and the cost can really add up, 600 00:34:12,420 --> 00:34:16,920 especially for young parents. We will do this while reducing the 601 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,580 deficit. 602 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:21,800 Adam Curry: So yeah, there is already a child tax credits. I 603 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,020 believe it's $3,500 for the first year, $2,500 subsequent 604 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:32,180 years. This is, of course, exactly what JD Vance proposed. 605 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:37,940 He proposed $5,000 for the first year. And if you recall what 606 00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:41,920 they said right away is he wants to punish people who don't want 607 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,420 to have children. And it was it was Molly Jung fast and in 608 00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:50,140 Louisiana, the Daily Advertiser reports that the United States 609 00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:53,200 birth rate is down as fewer adults want to have kids. I 610 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200 should have clipped this close for Hold on a second. Some older 611 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,200 adults say they don't have kids due to medical reasons or 612 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,000 because they have. Found the right partner and Molly is the 613 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,580 stats are there more and more Americans choosing not to have 614 00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:06,120 kids, which 615 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:09,300 Unknown: again emphasizes why JD Vance's comments about childless 616 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,640 Americans, childless cat ladies could be so politically 617 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,480 damaging. Well. So 618 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,540 what's interesting is this, is this natalism That comes from an 619 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:18,480 authoritarian playbook, right? That there, there need to be 620 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,860 more white children, 621 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,480 Adam Curry: right? So, so when JD Vance proposes it, it's more 622 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:29,300 white children. Yeah, it's natalism, natalism. So there's 623 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:31,340 your phony baloney. Media. 624 00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:34,220 John C Dvorak: It's unbelievable. Well, if 625 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:36,920 Adam Curry: we hadn't been doing this for almost 17 years, maybe, 626 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,980 but for us, it's like, oh, that's believable. Oh, there it 627 00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:43,300 is. Actually have, let's just stick on this Harris economic 628 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,400 plan for a moment. I have a couple clips 629 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:50,320 Unknown: tonight. Vice President Kamala Harris in her first major 630 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,340 policy speech casting herself as a champion of the middle class. 631 00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:55,600 Building up 632 00:35:55,660 --> 00:36:00,280 the middle class will be a defining goal of my presidency. 633 00:36:00,580 --> 00:36:01,140 The 634 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:04,980 Adam Curry: NASDAQ, the nasality. Is that a word, 635 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680 John C Dvorak: very hard. It's just adenoidal. Yes, of 636 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,300 Unknown: my presidency. Harris 637 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,600 acknowledging that even as inflation slows, middle class 638 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,740 families are still feeling the pinch. The vice president, she's 639 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:18,000 been there pinch, 640 00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:22,400 Adam Curry: a pinch, the pinch. No, it's a slap. Later 641 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,460 Unknown: in college, I worked at McDonald's to earn spending 642 00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:29,240 money. Uh huh, well, some of the people I worked with were 643 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,100 raising families on that paycheck. I 644 00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:32,960 Adam Curry: would love to meet some of these people that you 645 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,240 work with at McDonald's during your college. Was that in 646 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,380 Ottawa? Was that in Canada? Where did she go to college? No, 647 00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:41,920 no, that's right. Now she went. She was capital okay now, she 648 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,620 went to college at the historically backed black 649 00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:45,700 university. They 650 00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:50,140 Unknown: worked second or even third jobs to pay rent and buy 651 00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:54,880 food. That only gets harder when the cost of living goes up. 652 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:55,720 HARRIS 653 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:59,620 zeroing in on pocketbook issues, proposing a ban on corporate 654 00:36:59,620 --> 00:37:01,500 price gouging on food and groceries. 655 00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:05,400 Adam Curry: What a what a beautiful gift to the 656 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,080 Republicans. I mean, it's as if, if I didn't know any better, and 657 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,340 maybe I do, this is planned like, let's just bring in price 658 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:18,420 controls. Every political historian in America knows that 659 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:20,100 it works. Every historian 660 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:23,720 John C Dvorak: of world power knows that it works. You said, 661 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:24,620 knows that it works, that 662 00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:26,720 Adam Curry: it doesn't work. I'm sorry, knows it doesn't work. 663 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:30,980 Every world historian knows that this is the definition of 664 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:36,020 socialist price fixing, and it's it usually results in food lines 665 00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:39,620 and less choice if any food are on the show, because you're not 666 00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:43,000 John C Dvorak: going to make a product that that loses money by 667 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,400 government edict. So you stop making the product, 668 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,380 Adam Curry: making this, and stop putting it on shelves, up 669 00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:47,860 to $25,000 670 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,660 Unknown: in down payment support for first time homeowners, a tax 671 00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:56,680 credit of up to $6,000 for families with the newborn, and 672 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,960 capping the cost of insulin at $35 in out of pocket expenses 673 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,760 for prescription drugs at 2000 674 00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:05,460 Adam Curry: it was really interesting to see the 675 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:12,120 Washington thing. The Washington Post opinion Harris's economic 676 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,540 plan is full of gimmicks that don't make sense. Like, whoa, 677 00:38:15,540 --> 00:38:20,120 did Obama put in a call or something? And, and you look at 678 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,220 it, and it's like, you know, they're kind of like, oh well, 679 00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:29,600 you know, yeah, the president opted for blaming big business, 680 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,620 and she vowed to go after price gouging. But it was so 681 00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:38,180 interesting that the Washington Post is even crazier than 682 00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:41,380 Kamala. They said here from this opinion piece, which I don't 683 00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:45,100 think I saw anyone pick up on. She offers clever tax incentives 684 00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:49,480 to help make it happen, but her proposed $25,000 in down payment 685 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,780 assistance for first time homebuyers stimulates the demand 686 00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:56,200 side, which risks putting upward pressure on prices. I think 687 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,040 that's correct. That's 688 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,480 John C Dvorak: the first thing I thought when they when she 689 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,280 suggested 25,000 that well, there goes a yes, real estate is 690 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,060 going up. 691 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,580 Adam Curry: That's that's just like when, when Tesla got the 692 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,460 seven and a half $1,000 incentive, everyone just put 693 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:11,760 seven and a half $1,000 on top of the Tesla price. That's 694 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,540 exactly what happens. Yes, what you do. But then they go on such 695 00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:19,260 a measure might make sense of Miss Harris paid for it, but Ms 696 00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:24,620 interesting, isn't she married to Doug? Ms Harris paid for by 697 00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:27,980 eliminating other demand side housing subsidies, such as 698 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,200 mortgage interest deduction. Are they insane? At the Washington 699 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,860 Post? 700 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,860 John C Dvorak: Read that again. I don't know what they said. 701 00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:37,220 Such 702 00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:40,180 Adam Curry: a measure the $25,000 down payment might make 703 00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:44,440 sense if Ms Harris paid for by eliminating other demand side 704 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,640 housing subsidies such as the mortgage interest deduction. Oh, 705 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,660 my God, you're right, roughly $30 billion annual drain on 706 00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:54,220 federal revenue that benefits. 707 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,920 John C Dvorak: Yeah, go for that and see how that gets your 708 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,700 votes, of 709 00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:01,020 Adam Curry: course. So I don't understand. What the Washington 710 00:40:01,020 --> 00:40:02,340 Post is thinking here? 711 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,460 John C Dvorak: Well, there that that is a communist statement, 712 00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:07,320 correct? It's 713 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,960 Adam Curry: the one thing that actually makes, uh, buying a 714 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,920 home kind of affordable, even though Trump capped it at, what 715 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,340 is it, 10,000 716 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,300 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he kept it at 10, which was every Well, as 717 00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:23,300 you know, on our show, we had the our our famous accountant, 718 00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:24,680 to the to the rich and famous, 719 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,800 Adam Curry: yes, the anonymous gay accountant, yeah, he, uh, 720 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:32,720 John C Dvorak: pointed out that. And I'll remind everyone that 721 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,200 when they're always these, these rich guys are all hearing about 722 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,840 what the Democrats were saying, which, oh, there's a tax cuts 723 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680 for the rich. And then when they got their tax bill, which went 724 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,320 way up, yeah, if you many of them million 725 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,900 Adam Curry: dollar, you know, $5 million mortgage, 726 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,900 John C Dvorak: because they have these, these, because they 727 00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:56,440 capped the mortgage at $10,000 the write off at $10,000 and it 728 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,860 hurt, it hurt the rich. The rich weren't benefiting from the 729 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,080 Trump tax cuts at all because of this one little trick that he 730 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,980 pulled where so the whole idea that the rich are benefiting 731 00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:12,660 from Trump's tax cuts is a blatant lie. Oh, I was 732 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:13,860 Adam Curry: going to say specious. 733 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,360 John C Dvorak: No, no, the difference being specious and a 734 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,980 blatant lie. 735 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,460 Adam Curry: What they really what somebody really should go 736 00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:25,700 after, but they're all too afraid, is insurance companies 737 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:31,460 Hone owner insurance, I think ours went up 35% and that's, 738 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,200 that hurts. That's 739 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,040 John C Dvorak: a gouge. 740 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,160 Adam Curry: It's Oh, it's because of climate change. John, 741 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,400 they literally say, oh, no, I'm sorry. It's because of climate 742 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,520 change. And if you want to switch to another, cheaper 743 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,980 insurance, you'll never get insured after that again. 744 00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:49,660 John C Dvorak: Yes, as and now you have another story. It's I 745 00:41:49,660 --> 00:41:52,180 told this. I have told this story probably twice on the show 746 00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:55,360 when I was taking driver's education so I can get out of a 747 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,260 ticket. You know 748 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,000 Adam Curry: the three hour class, 749 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:01,320 John C Dvorak: the three hour class. So I took this class in 750 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,780 Chinatown, Oakland, because it was the cheapest. And this guy 751 00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:06,240 was given to see who had never talked about driver safe. He 752 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,840 was, he was lecturing us about the sleazeball insurance 753 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,620 companies. Yeah, and he's mentioned the fact that there's 754 00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:17,160 a database that all insurance companies use. And if you start 755 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,900 swapping from one company to the next to the next, after you do 756 00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:25,340 it like you just share done, you do it once, okay, you can do it 757 00:42:25,340 --> 00:42:28,460 once. You do it again, you'll never get insurance. And he went 758 00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:31,520 on and showed the evidence of anyone on. We went to lunch. I 759 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,440 came back, the guy was under arrest. 760 00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:37,940 Adam Curry: Wow, I don't remember that story. He 761 00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:40,120 John C Dvorak: was under arrest. Rest, that's great. And they 762 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,440 close the class and send us our money back. Wow, I never found 763 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,880 out what they arrested him for, 764 00:42:46,780 --> 00:42:48,460 Adam Curry: probably hitting up on some cheekies. 765 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120 John C Dvorak: He wasn't hitting up on anybody. The whole thing 766 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,560 was very suspicious. Here's the 767 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,240 Adam Curry: second part of this ABC report 768 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:58,300 Unknown: tonight. Many questions remain about how Harris would 769 00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:01,740 get her plan through Congress and how it would be paid for. 770 00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:05,160 But in North Carolina, the Vice President focused on drawing a 771 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,380 contrast with Donald Trump. He 772 00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:11,040 plans to give billionaires massive tax cuts year after 773 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,160 year. You know, I think that if you want to know who someone 774 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,100 cares about, look who they fight for. 775 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:21,320 And she attacked Trump's proposal for tariffs on all 776 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,040 imports. 777 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,780 It will mean higher prices on just about every one of your 778 00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:35,000 daily needs, a Trump tax on gas, a Trump tax on food, a Trump tax 779 00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:40,580 on clothing, a Trump tax on over the counter, medication. 780 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,260 Tonight, 781 00:43:41,260 --> 00:43:45,220 the Trump campaign firing back bashing Harris's economic plan 782 00:43:45,220 --> 00:43:49,060 as extremely damaging and a massive expansion of government 783 00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:49,780 control. 784 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,340 John C Dvorak: Just stop for a second again. I don't I didn't 785 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:59,080 notice it because I don't have a lot of Harris clips, but her 786 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,120 adenoidal that, which is kind of a California accent, I think 787 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000 somebody describing was as a Berkeley accent, that 788 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,460 Adam Curry: she's not humming, she's not humming, she's not 789 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,660 humming. No, she's 790 00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:11,520 John C Dvorak: not a Berkeley Hummer. That's different than 791 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,620 this accent she has. This is more typical. It is a nasally 792 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,660 deviated knowing and when you because when you watch her on 793 00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:24,080 TV, it's not as noticeable as when you're playing these clips. 794 00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:28,100 When you're playing these clips that ought just pure audio. It's 795 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,420 unacceptable. 796 00:44:31,940 --> 00:44:33,200 Adam Curry: Yes, unacceptable. 797 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,800 John C Dvorak: So I think you'll see how anyone can listen to her 798 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,740 voice and vote for well, just that alone, just as 799 00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:41,860 Adam Curry: a political consultant from the courage of 800 00:44:41,860 --> 00:44:45,040 our consulting group, I would say the entire idea here is not 801 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,640 about truth, but about connecting tax to Trump 802 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,380 alliteration, tax, Trump tax, a Trump tax, a Trump tax. And of 803 00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:56,080 course, it's ridiculous to say that it's going to be a Trump 804 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,200 tax on gas, because that's the one thing we know that will 805 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,260 definitely go. Down. So this is so bad that now people are 806 00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:08,520 calling her kamu law, as in communists, which is very funny. 807 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,380 So this may be, is probably going to be Trump's new term. 808 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,500 We're going to miss out on the cackling combo, I'm afraid. But 809 00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:21,860 it was so bad that CNN did the, I mean, just an outrageous 810 00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:27,140 comparison on the economy between Trump and Harris. Listen 811 00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:27,920 closely and 812 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,140 Unknown: what does the poll tell you about the different ways 813 00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:32,600 that Harris and Trump are talking about the economy, 814 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,820 which, of course, is the issue Americans say they care about 815 00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:35,120 the most. 816 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,060 Adam Curry: Okay, so it is a comparison between Trump and 817 00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:41,200 Harris on the economy. That's what Americans care about most. 818 00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:43,600 Come on in polling, kid, yeah, 819 00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:46,180 Unknown: economy, economy, economy. So this is rather 820 00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:48,760 interesting. All right. So this is the Harris versus Trump 821 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,700 margin in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina. Look at 822 00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:54,580 this. Donald Trump holds an advantage in who voters trust 823 00:45:54,580 --> 00:45:57,160 more on the economy. Look at that. He leads Harris by 12 824 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,980 points. But interestingly enough, this is a question that 825 00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:02,520 I really don't think pollsters asked nearly enough. Which is, 826 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,340 who cares about people more? Like you look at this, Harris 827 00:46:05,340 --> 00:46:09,000 holds a five point advantage on that. You go back to 2012 Mitt 828 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,200 Romney won on the economy. 829 00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:13,320 Adam Curry: Do you see what they did? So they have two boxes. One 830 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:19,260 has Trump's head, plus five plus 12 for Trump on the economy and 831 00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:23,480 play and Kamala leads Trump by five points on what people 832 00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:27,860 people think that she'll care more about people like me, which 833 00:46:27,860 --> 00:46:32,960 has nothing to do with the economy. It was, it's I've never 834 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,780 seen any witch or rude. I've never seen anything more 835 00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:38,900 dystopian 1980 fours than this. But 836 00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:41,200 Unknown: interestingly enough, this is a question that I really 837 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,140 don't think pollsters ask nearly enough, which is, who cares 838 00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:47,020 about people more like you? Look at this, Harris holds a five 839 00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:50,560 point advantage on that. You go back to 2012 Mitt Romney won on 840 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,320 the economy, but Barack Obama won that election because he won 841 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,780 on this question. Cares about people like you. And Harris 842 00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:58,480 right now is leading on this, less of a lead than Trump has on 843 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,320 the economy. But right now, I think voters are balancing these 844 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,260 two thoughts in their head, and that's why we have such a close 845 00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:06,660 race across the Sunbelt battleground so 846 00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:09,960 Adam Curry: cares about people like you. That must mean black 847 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,960 people or people of so called color. What else could it mean? 848 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,540 Does it mean people who were attorney generals, people who 849 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:22,640 slept with Willie Brown, people who you know were Senators. What 850 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,160 does it mean? Women, no people who care about people like me. 851 00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:32,120 It's racist, is what it is. 852 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,080 John C Dvorak: It's totally racist. Yeah, uh huh, you're 853 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,380 seeing, you know, I don't you know, CNN is lost. It's a lost 854 00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:39,920 cause. 855 00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:43,000 Adam Curry: They're all lost, John and be happy they're still 856 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,660 here. It's the only reason we still have a gig. So then final, 857 00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:52,780 I think this is final for me. This 2019 clip popped up, and I 858 00:47:52,780 --> 00:47:56,500 just wanted to deconstruct it a little bit, because there is 859 00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,980 something interesting that no one really went bothered to go 860 00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:00,480 into. 861 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:05,280 Unknown: I will snatch their patent, so that we will take 862 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,140 over. And yes, we 863 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:08,100 can do that. Yes, yes, 864 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:10,740 we can do that. 865 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,940 Yes, we can do that. It's the question is, do you have the 866 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:17,880 will to do it? I have the will to do it. 867 00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:20,360 Adam Curry: So here she is talking about, this 868 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,520 John C Dvorak: is a great clip, by the way, and you have to, 869 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,820 kind of, I had to listen to it two or three times to hear it. 870 00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:31,160 Yeah. So she's, she says, snatch your patent. Yes, they 871 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,460 Adam Curry: will snatch their patent. And of course, the the 872 00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:39,800 comments on X are, you know how patent law works, baby. Well, 873 00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:46,120 December 7 of 2023 the Biden administration announced a new 874 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:54,820 policy called march in rights. It has not been used yet march 875 00:48:54,820 --> 00:48:59,740 in rights that will allow it to seize patents for medicines 876 00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:03,420 developed with government funding if it believes their 877 00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:08,160 prices are too high. The policy sets a roadmap for government, 878 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,220 so called march in rights which have never been used before. 879 00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:14,100 They would allow government to grant additional licenses to 880 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:18,300 third parties for products developed using federal funds if 881 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,080 the original patent holder does not make them available to the 882 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:27,020 public on reasonable terms. Talk about a bunch of commies. Well, 883 00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:30,080 John C Dvorak: this is actually not an a completely 884 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,620 unprecedented situation. Oh, dude, it's been written about, 885 00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:38,420 talked about before the CIA and the intelligence state has been 886 00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:43,780 snatching patents for years, really, yes, they do it because 887 00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:46,900 it's national security. If you, if you come up with, like, a new 888 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:52,300 weapon that is a, that's just some sort of crazy thing, and 889 00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:54,940 you, you try to patent it, you'll, you'll have the patent 890 00:49:54,940 --> 00:50:00,240 pulled. They'll hold it aside. You won't even get paid. Wow. I 891 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,420 did not know about that. This has been going on for some time, 892 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:05,760 and every once in a while it gets written up. That seems 893 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,240 unconstitutional to me. It's totally unconstitutional, but 894 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:13,080 it's never been it's never been challenged. I don't know been 895 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,260 doing it. They've been doing it. Yes, there's a bunch of these, 896 00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:21,380 these missing things that would be in in the they don't even 897 00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:24,860 allow the patent to be published because of the national security 898 00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:28,820 aspect to it. This is interesting. Just yeah, it's 899 00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:31,640 been going on for some time. I've read about this for 900 00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:34,940 probably these 10 years. So all of this, every once a while, 901 00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:37,100 some guy will come out, some guy with the best you know, the 902 00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:40,780 government screwed me out of my patent and blah, blah, blah, and 903 00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:42,940 they bitch and moan about it, and then nothing comes of it. 904 00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:47,140 Adam Curry: Well, this, of course, leads to much fodder for 905 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,540 Trump. Kamala went 906 00:50:49,780 --> 00:50:52,300 Unknown: full communist. You heard that she went full 907 00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:55,840 communist. She wants to destroy our country after causing 908 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,260 catastrophic inflation, comrade Kamala announced comrade 909 00:51:01,260 --> 00:51:05,040 Institute, socialist price controls, you saw that never 910 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,600 worked before, never ever worked, 911 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:11,100 Adam Curry: didn't we? I thought we tested that in polling at the 912 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:14,760 at the consulting group, comrade comrade Kamala. I mean, it 913 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,320 didn't work, but now it works. She, 914 00:51:16,620 --> 00:51:17,760 John C Dvorak: I don't think we did. 915 00:51:19,020 --> 00:51:21,500 Adam Curry: John, this is what consultants do we lie about what 916 00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:22,640 we did? Are you kidding? Oh, 917 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,440 John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, we did. This 918 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,920 Unknown: is the Maduro plan, Venezuela. Maduro plan of like 919 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,160 the old Soviet Union. This is they tried it. How did the 920 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,000 Soviet Union work out? It became Russia, smaller versions. It was 921 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,060 a smaller version. It will cause rationing, hunger and 922 00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:47,500 skyrocketing prices, just like their inflation Reduction Act 923 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:51,880 calls one of the great scams of all time. They got it approved 924 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,000 with a beautiful name, inflation reduction, because inflation 925 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,620 under their system has been so bad, it's gone up much more than 926 00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:03,900 50% you know they say 3040, 50, much more people are being 927 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,000 devastated. They're being devastated. 928 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,120 Adam Curry: So he's got that going form, and then this day 929 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,120 one, day one. I mean, it's also obvious, 930 00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:15,600 Unknown: yesterday, Kamala laid out her so called economic plan. 931 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,540 She says she's going to lower the cost of food and housing 932 00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:24,140 starting on day one. But day one for Kamala was three and a half 933 00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:34,100 years ago. So why didn't she do it then? So this is day 1305 934 00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:40,360 we're at 1305 so why isn't she doing it now? I 935 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,120 Adam Curry: mean, it's almost like they called each other and 936 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,600 said, Hey, listen, get me out of this thing. I'm sick and tired 937 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,480 of it. I'm gonna do some communist crap, and then you 938 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,780 call me out on it. We're good to go. It'll work, Don it'll work. 939 00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:57,700 It's fine. And and he still hasn't figured out our pet, 940 00:52:57,700 --> 00:52:59,800 Mame, I mean, this test is 941 00:52:59,980 --> 00:53:01,380 John C Dvorak: gonna happen. Now it's too late. 942 00:53:01,860 --> 00:53:06,720 Unknown: This woman is nuts. Look, people say, be nice. Have 943 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:11,820 you heard her laugh? That is the laugh of a crazy person. That is 944 00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:18,720 the laugh of a crazy, laugh of a lunatic. Have you heard you 945 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:23,900 know, they prohibited her. They prohibited her for laughing. 946 00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:27,500 I've been waiting for her to laugh because as soon as she 947 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,060 laughs, the election's over. 948 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,820 Adam Curry: I think now, listen to what he's doing. He's putting 949 00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:39,440 it in her head, if you laugh like that, which she can't help. 950 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,820 John C Dvorak: No, it's because and I, yeah, I've got second 951 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:46,300 thoughts about your earlier PBA, or whatever it was called, yeah. 952 00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:51,100 PB, diagnosis. PBA, yes, I ever since you brought that back into 953 00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:56,560 the conversation, I'm wondering. And of course, we have a, you 954 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,860 have a clip coming up that'll go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, do 955 00:53:59,860 --> 00:54:02,400 whatever you need. Well, the clip I wanted to bring is the is 956 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,300 the Jordan Peterson clip that he was on kill me show over the 957 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:09,660 weekend, and he brought in this idea of, I didn't even know 958 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:11,940 about these things, Cluster B. Oh, we 959 00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:13,260 Adam Curry: talked about Cluster B. 960 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,480 John C Dvorak: I don't remember talking about Cluster B 961 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:18,000 Adam Curry: the right let me just tell you why I know about 962 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,100 Cluster B is because of the disaffected podcast by Josh 963 00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:27,320 Slocum. And Josh Slocum, this a great podcast. And he talks, and 964 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:33,500 he's, he's gay guy who is completely gone, against the 965 00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:36,740 whole he was a Democrat. He's gone. I think he lives in 966 00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:42,760 Washington, Washington, and he, he specifically talks about 967 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,400 clush to be and it's a medical term. And I didn't know about it 968 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,040 until I started listening to his pod. It's a great podcast, by 969 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,100 the way. Good podcast to listen to is, I have not heard this 970 00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:51,880 Peterson bit. 971 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,880 John C Dvorak: Well, this play, this is about Kamala and and I 972 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,800 didn't know about, I knew about the. The variety of syndromes 973 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,800 within Cluster B, because they they're discussed on a 974 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,040 borderline, borderline personal borderline personality disorder 975 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,800 is one of them, and there's others, and 976 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,560 Adam Curry: which is serious, by the way, not making fun of that. 977 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,540 It's serious, it's 978 00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:18,180 John C Dvorak: serious, but it's not a mental illness, that's the 979 00:55:18,180 --> 00:55:18,660 thing, yeah, but 980 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:21,440 Adam Curry: you can't you either you decide to live with someone 981 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,660 who has border it was a borderliner, or you have to 982 00:55:23,660 --> 00:55:27,380 leave them see my second marriage. The 983 00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:32,000 John C Dvorak: we have a link in the show notes to a discussion 984 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,380 of Cluster B. It's a YouTube video. You can check it out. 985 00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:40,100 It's very interesting. But here is Jordan Peterson discussing or 986 00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:44,860 bringing it up on kill me's weekend show, and it was I just 987 00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:46,180 caught my attention with 988 00:55:46,180 --> 00:55:48,700 Unknown: a huge week ahead, the Democratic National Convention 989 00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:51,340 is about to kick off and polls showing, but the Democratic 990 00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:54,100 Republican nominee in a virtual dead heat in all the 991 00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,500 battleground states, the Democratic party seems to be 992 00:55:56,500 --> 00:56:00,040 coming to their senses, if we're to believe what they Say, almost 993 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,900 echoing what Republicans have been saying for years. We need a 994 00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:07,800 stronger border. We need to tackle inflation. We need to 995 00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:11,160 essentially abandon the woke initiatives, the green 996 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,420 initiatives, and have the Dems really come seen the light? Are 997 00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:18,600 they really come to the senses, or they pretending to to get 998 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,620 elected, because they know, right? They know their ideas are 999 00:56:21,620 --> 00:56:24,440 so unpopular. Let's ask one of the smartest people you'll ever 1000 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,440 talk to or listen to, clinical psychologist and author of the 1001 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,280 host of the Jordan Peterson podcast. Dr Jordan Peterson. Dr 1002 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,520 Peterson, great blazer. Great to see you. First off, 1003 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,640 Adam Curry: are we to believe with the debt, by the way, just 1004 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,320 looking at that blazer makes me cluster be Krauts are saying now 1005 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:41,740 that 1006 00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:43,840 Unknown: they're just getting off the wokeness? 1007 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:49,120 No, I don't believe so. I think that this is a classic maneuver 1008 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,220 by what would you say, a group of advisors and maybe the VP 1009 00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:59,200 herself, who show the pathology associated with what's known as 1010 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,760 the Cluster B of personality disorders. And I really believe 1011 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:08,460 this. And the strategy would be this, the radical leftist, and I 1012 00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:12,360 would put Kamala Harris in that category. Have provoked for 1013 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:18,540 years, for years on the DEI racial division culture war 1014 00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:22,760 front, constantly prodding and poking, when the Conservatives 1015 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,340 finally woke up enough to respond, the the manipulators at 1016 00:57:28,340 --> 00:57:32,780 the bottom of the Democrat organization said, Oh, we don't 1017 00:57:32,780 --> 00:57:35,840 even know what you're talking about, all this culture war 1018 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,840 stuff. Where did you invent that? The real issue is the 1019 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,560 economy. The real issue is health care. The real issue is 1020 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,740 education. All you people are strange and weird for bringing 1021 00:57:44,740 --> 00:57:47,980 anything else up. We've been focusing on the important issues 1022 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,860 all along. I don't know what you're imagining, and that's 1023 00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:55,780 classic cluster being manipulative behavior. And if we 1024 00:57:55,780 --> 00:57:58,960 think that this new messaging on the part of a candidate who's 1025 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,540 using nothing but image to promote her views is reflects a 1026 00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:06,840 deeper reality than we're deluded beyond comprehension. 1027 00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:11,880 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a manipulative behavior, and 1028 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,780 that's what's going on with the media. And the fact that Kamala 1029 00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:19,260 has not done a speech, she won't talk to anybody, she hasn't done 1030 00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:23,420 that, that crazy laugh, but she has actually, now and again, the 1031 00:58:23,420 --> 00:58:26,720 whole thing is a giant manipulation, which is a Cluster 1032 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,740 B, part of the Cluster B, which is a group of erratic disorders. 1033 00:58:30,740 --> 00:58:33,440 I'll read what they are, the anti social behaviors, one of 1034 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,680 them borderline personalities, another one, histrionic 1035 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,200 personality disorder. We all know somebody like that, and 1036 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,680 also the narcissistic personality disorder. All these 1037 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,700 are in this one Cluster B, and they, and he says that the 1038 00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:53,860 Democrat Party is just using a bunch of people that have this, 1039 00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:56,500 these, this, this problem, or, if you want to call it a 1040 00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:00,720 problem, or, in fact, this looks like an advantage in so far as 1041 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,900 the media is probably involved with this, it's unbelievable. 1042 00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:07,260 Well, it's not unbelievable. I just stopped me from saying I 1043 00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:07,680 just got 1044 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,880 Adam Curry: a text message from President Trump. Yes, thank you, 1045 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,060 President Trump. They want me in jail in one month before I'm 1046 00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:20,040 sentenced by a corrupt Democrat judge. Please read link. Stopped 1047 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:25,880 opt out? Yeah, I don't think so. It's and it's in all stop, to 1048 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,880 opt to stop, to opt out on this number, but we'll send you five 1049 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,360 more. I swear to God, I'm going to do this just for the show, 1050 00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:35,780 because I love every because I love my truck, I'm going to do 1051 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:38,540 stop, and let's see how long it takes me to get a new message. 1052 00:59:39,380 --> 00:59:40,100 Stop, 1053 00:59:40,460 --> 00:59:42,460 John C Dvorak: you'll get a new message before the end of the 1054 00:59:42,460 --> 00:59:44,440 show. I bought quicker 1055 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,380 Adam Curry: than that. Okay, stop. So I'm alive, signaling 1056 00:59:47,380 --> 00:59:49,120 that I'm alive, we'll see how long it takes. 1057 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,900 John C Dvorak: It's a, it's a on, I don't know what to say 1058 00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:55,420 about it. I like I said, That's Jared. 1059 00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:58,660 Adam Curry: That's jared's Big Red or whatever it is. It's the, 1060 00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:02,400 it's the counter to. Um, act blue. Act blue. Yeah, it's 1061 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,200 horrible. It's, and it's, it's, it makes me hate them. It really 1062 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,040 does. Like, do you think I'm an idiot? I know what that link is. 1063 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,260 It's a link with chip in I know what it is. I'm not gonna fall 1064 01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:19,500 for that, but that's what they do every single time. It's 1065 01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:22,220 annoying, I get what must work? Obviously, it 1066 01:00:22,220 --> 01:00:24,260 John C Dvorak: must work. It must work, or they wouldn't be 1067 01:00:24,260 --> 01:00:26,600 doing it. They just figured you're gonna annoy one person, 1068 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,280 but they get a lot of money from others, so, and there's probably 1069 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,120 a lot of people that aren't you know that they this is like 1070 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,280 their social interaction. They're getting all these cool 1071 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,440 messages. Maybe, 1072 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:42,040 Adam Curry: yeah, maybe some people like that now they, now 1073 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,800 they, I did not get a message back saying you're opted out. 1074 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,180 And I sometimes I think these are just people who have phone 1075 01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:52,540 numbers and they're just doing this. You know, they just can't, 1076 01:00:52,540 --> 01:00:58,120 it's not even, it's not even automated system. So President 1077 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:03,780 Biden joined ms Harris in Maryland on their on the 1078 01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:11,160 campaign trail. And I have to say, not Biden. This was daddy 1079 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,900 longlegs. His face looked different. I did not hear the 1080 01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:19,560 clicking clacking of the teeth, and it wasn't really jacked up, 1081 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,260 Joe. Listen today, Vice 1082 01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:23,840 Unknown: President Kamala Harris standing side by side with 1083 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,080 President Biden, her first official event together since 1084 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,020 Biden dropped out of the race. Folks, 1085 01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:35,600 I'm an incredible partner. The progress we made, she can make 1086 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,160 one hell of a president 1087 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,320 Maryland announcing the lowering of prescription drug costs for 1088 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,460 those using Medicare. 1089 01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:46,240 Adam Curry: So here's another clip of him, started in January. 1090 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:51,460 Now this all of a sudden, he's jacked up. So, I mean, it's very 1091 01:01:51,460 --> 01:01:54,520 interesting. I don't know if this is jacked up Joe now, or 1092 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,700 what I believe it to be his daddy, long legs with the mask. 1093 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,540 Oh, you have successfully unsubscribed. Okay, let's see 1094 01:02:00,540 --> 01:02:01,860 what happens next, starting 1095 01:02:01,860 --> 01:02:05,940 Unknown: in January of this year, every senior in the United 1096 01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:09,240 States of America, no matter what their cost of drugs. And 1097 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,820 like I said, some of these cancer drugs are 12,000 bucks a 1098 01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:15,540 year. Every single penny they spend. They never have to spend 1099 01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:23,000 more than $2,000 a year for all drugs. Surprise, surprise, Big 1100 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,240 Pharma doesn't want this to happen at all. The 1101 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:31,880 pharmaceutical industry last year, spent $400 million 1102 01:02:32,420 --> 01:02:34,520 lobbying to Congress to stop this. 1103 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,000 Adam Curry: Now, does this sound like the actual Joe Biden to you 1104 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,580 that we hear in all these interviews? No, I don't think 1105 01:02:42,580 --> 01:02:45,760 this is jacked up Joe anymore. I think this is a guy who's just 1106 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:51,400 got the fumbling and bumbling down, and he doesn't look like 1107 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,540 him, and the hair in the back is different. I look at hair, it 1108 01:02:55,540 --> 01:03:01,140 just it's not the same guy. The real Biden may be alive, but I 1109 01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:02,700 don't think he's on the campaign trail. 1110 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,420 John C Dvorak: Well, the real Biden is going to have to be the 1111 01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:11,760 gut. Well, maybe this will be the Biden that comes up at the 1112 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:17,160 at the DNC. That's what's going to be interesting. Yeah, which 1113 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,220 Biden we're going to get? Yeah, I would like to see jacked up 1114 01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:21,320 Joe. Personally, 1115 01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:26,420 Adam Curry: I'm so afraid that there's just going to be a big 1116 01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:28,820 poop and it's going to be nothing, and he's not going to 1117 01:03:28,820 --> 01:03:34,040 do anything weird. I said it, that he's not going to do 1118 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:39,320 anything outrageous, just going to be ho hum. You know, that's 1119 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,720 John C Dvorak: probably right. Yeah, I might. My hope is that 1120 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,640 the protesters, 100,000 strong, storm the place. Well, I 1121 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,620 Adam Curry: have some updates tonight. 1122 01:03:50,620 --> 01:03:54,880 Unknown: Chicago's guard is already up. Fencing lining the 1123 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,380 streets. Rose closed off to vehicles, a large protective 1124 01:03:59,380 --> 01:04:02,400 zone built around the United Center, where vice president 1125 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,160 Harris is set to accept the Democratic nomination for 1126 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,980 president, and just like at the Republican Convention in 1127 01:04:07,980 --> 01:04:10,440 Milwaukee, Secret Service responsible for everything 1128 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,560 inside that hardened perimeter, local police taking the lead for 1129 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,400 nearly everything else, is the Chicago Police Department ready 1130 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,120 for the DNC 1131 01:04:18,540 --> 01:04:21,560 said it for a while. The Chicago Police Department is ready. 1132 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:22,160 Chicago's 1133 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,220 top cop says there are no specific, incredible threats, 1134 01:04:25,340 --> 01:04:28,400 but to expect a heavy police presence throughout the city. 1135 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:28,700 It's 1136 01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:31,580 a huge project, but the Chicago Police Department and the city 1137 01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:35,240 as a whole, is used to working towards something this large. 1138 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,380 Looming over the convention is the promise of large scale 1139 01:04:39,380 --> 01:04:41,620 protests just blocks from the United Center, 1140 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,860 this is one of the streets we'll be on. Yes, despite 1141 01:04:44,860 --> 01:04:48,160 months of legal battles over the protest area, the largest 1142 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,880 demonstration is expected to draw more than 20,000 people. 1143 01:04:52,060 --> 01:04:55,360 Hatem Abu dhaya is one of the lead organizers preparing to 1144 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,740 voice his opposition to Israel's war in Gaza kefir wearing dude, 1145 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,860 the. What's the main message for you guys? 1146 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,700 Yeah, the main message is that the Democrats who are going to 1147 01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:11,940 be in that building are complicit in this war against 1148 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:13,080 the Palestinian people. 1149 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,860 Police Superintendent Larry Snelling says his officers 1150 01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:20,180 received special training focused on de escalation and 1151 01:05:20,180 --> 01:05:23,840 respecting constitutional rights, but warns violent scenes 1152 01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,220 reminiscent of Chicago's 1968 Democratic convention will not 1153 01:05:28,220 --> 01:05:29,000 be tolerated. 1154 01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:32,600 We want to have fights in the streets with people. Absolutely 1155 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,860 not. But I want to make one thing clear. I want to make this 1156 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,020 perfectly clear. We need to know the difference between rioting 1157 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:42,580 and protesting that 1158 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,180 says it's prepared for any situation. 1159 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,960 Adam Curry: So you recall that there was some anger that they 1160 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,260 weren't allowed to go where they wanted to go the route. And I 1161 01:05:53,260 --> 01:05:55,780 guess they did some negotiation with the city, and they have 1162 01:05:55,780 --> 01:05:57,100 reached an agreement. 1163 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,320 Unknown: An agreement was reached Friday between the city 1164 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,400 of Chicago and a coalition of demonstrators days before the 1165 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,280 start of the Democratic National Convention, we announce 1166 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,960 it all the time. We talk about how in the mass movements, power 1167 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,140 can seize nothing without a demand. The city 1168 01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:15,960 will allow the coalition to march on the DNC, to use sound 1169 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,020 equipment set up staging and bring in at least seven portable 1170 01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:21,440 toilets during their demonstrations. Earlier this 1171 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,320 week, the city denied items in the group's permit application, 1172 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,440 citing safety concerns, organizers felt the rules made 1173 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,140 it impossible to share their message of calling for an end to 1174 01:06:30,140 --> 01:06:33,920 US aid to Israel and a ceasefire in Gaza. In response, the group 1175 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,440 filed an emergency motion alleging the denial was 1176 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,180 unconstitutional. Hours before a federal hearing, both sides got 1177 01:06:40,180 --> 01:06:41,560 back to the negotiating table. 1178 01:06:41,620 --> 01:06:46,360 We talked to the mayor himself, directly, one of the top leaders 1179 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:51,640 of our coalition, spoke with the mayor, and we did the grassroots 1180 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,500 organizing that we know how to do, and we won what we needed to 1181 01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:57,220 win. The group 1182 01:06:57,220 --> 01:06:59,860 says they are still fighting for a longer marching route. They 1183 01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:02,760 say the route they are approved for is too short. They also want 1184 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,580 the city to approve the usage of tents in the parks for medical 1185 01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:08,580 staff and members of the press to use. The mayor addressed 1186 01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:10,260 negotiations earlier in the day. 1187 01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:12,900 It's fundamental to our democracy. Want to make sure 1188 01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:15,540 that these individuals have everything that they need, to 1189 01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:17,220 make sure that their voices are heard. The group 1190 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:20,660 is approved to be in Union Park and park number 578, near 1191 01:07:20,660 --> 01:07:23,420 Washington and Damon, with restrictions, the city of 1192 01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:26,420 Chicago has released the schedule for permitted parades 1193 01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:29,360 and assemblies. The first is scheduled for Sunday evening, 1194 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,320 tonight. 1195 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,180 Adam Curry: Tonight. Kicks off tonight. And then I want to 1196 01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:37,940 John C Dvorak: note a couple of things, please. You noticed, of 1197 01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:42,340 all they all the reporting is the following, well, we're 1198 01:07:42,340 --> 01:07:52,780 prepared. Unlike in 1968 we're prepared in 1968 this the so 1199 01:07:52,780 --> 01:07:55,660 called lack of preparation involved. They didn't have the 1200 01:07:55,660 --> 01:08:00,840 Secret Service and the FBI. They had the National Guard out. Yes, 1201 01:08:00,900 --> 01:08:06,360 they had basically the army, plus every cop in Illinois was 1202 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,820 out. There's this bullcrap that they're going to be more 1203 01:08:08,820 --> 01:08:13,380 prepared. There's no way the National Guard was guarding this 1204 01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:16,920 convention and it got out of control. There's that they're 1205 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,260 going to, I think, if these guys can be kept from storming the 1206 01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:24,200 stage, not to mention the fact that people can get in, because 1207 01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:25,580 there's a audience 1208 01:08:25,579 --> 01:08:29,899 Adam Curry: there. Was fighting inside the the DNC in if you 1209 01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:32,059 John C Dvorak: can keep people, I don't see how they're going to 1210 01:08:32,059 --> 01:08:35,839 keep Democrats. If you've been to one of the ever been to a 1211 01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:39,319 convention, there is, there was the public is in there. It's, 1212 01:08:39,379 --> 01:08:41,619 you know, there's a convention floor, which has all the 1213 01:08:41,619 --> 01:08:45,759 delegates, but surrounding them are is the general public. You 1214 01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:52,059 get in the fact that there's going to be protesters inside, 1215 01:08:52,779 --> 01:08:54,999 right off the bat, because they're going to find their way, 1216 01:08:54,999 --> 01:08:57,699 and they're going to get a pass. I'm Oh, yeah, no, I'm okay. 1217 01:08:57,939 --> 01:09:02,639 They're going to get in. So the place this is not I. If they 1218 01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:05,699 can't really make a mess of this and cause nothing but chaos, 1219 01:09:05,879 --> 01:09:09,839 then they suck. In other words, hippies could do a better job in 1220 01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:15,479 1968 than you. You guys, a violent group, Hamas, you can't 1221 01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:19,319 do it better than that. I'd be I'd be stunned stop. 1222 01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:22,639 Adam Curry: President Trump texts me again. New number, 1223 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,140 John C Dvorak: no already, 1224 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,800 Adam Curry: oh yeah, from Trump, and it says, Adam. I had a 1225 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,500 minute, so I wrote you a personal letter. 1226 01:09:31,039 --> 01:09:31,459 Unknown: Take, 1227 01:09:31,639 --> 01:09:36,199 Adam Curry: take a look. Stop to end. There you go. That's how 1228 01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:37,219 fast it goes. 1229 01:09:37,460 --> 01:09:39,500 John C Dvorak: So that was less than 10 minutes. 1230 01:09:39,499 --> 01:09:44,499 Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, here's Governor Pritzker on his 1231 01:09:44,499 --> 01:09:48,159 desire to bring the DNC to Chicago, and what he feels about 1232 01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:50,499 what might be just a few bad apples. 1233 01:09:50,559 --> 01:09:54,699 Unknown: Every time I saw President Biden, I literally 1234 01:09:54,699 --> 01:09:56,979 would shake his hand and the first thing I'd say to him is, 1235 01:09:56,979 --> 01:09:59,019 we're going to have the convention in Chicago, right? 1236 01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:02,279 And he would. Laugh after the third or fourth time Chicago 1237 01:10:02,279 --> 01:10:05,279 fashion, just promoting the city, you got to keep working. 1238 01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:07,739 You know what I mean. So anyway, that's one reason. I think 1239 01:10:07,739 --> 01:10:10,979 another is that, you know, we show off the values of the 1240 01:10:10,979 --> 01:10:13,859 Democratic Party, we have, literally, we've protected 1241 01:10:13,859 --> 01:10:17,519 people's freedoms here, the freedom to choose, the right to 1242 01:10:17,699 --> 01:10:19,319 read a book that you want to read. 1243 01:10:19,919 --> 01:10:23,359 Those rights often exercise in Chicago the right to protest, 1244 01:10:23,359 --> 01:10:26,779 but some of these groups, as we mentioned, are amping up their 1245 01:10:26,779 --> 01:10:29,899 rhetoric to cause disruption. One group saying, quote, f the 1246 01:10:29,899 --> 01:10:34,699 GNC the G for genocidal in an Instagram post, and another post 1247 01:10:34,699 --> 01:10:37,159 saying, quote, let's crash the party with a list of 1248 01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:40,779 demonstrations and rallies in Union Park. CPD superintendent 1249 01:10:40,779 --> 01:10:43,179 Larry Stelling has been training officers for a year for this 1250 01:10:43,179 --> 01:10:46,479 event, and has repeatedly said that his force is ready to allow 1251 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,479 protesters to exercise their rights while keeping a peace. 1252 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,599 Governor Pritzker says he has faith in that plan. 1253 01:10:52,780 --> 01:10:56,200 There may be some bad apples, usually they'll come from out of 1254 01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,040 town to do it. So there's been a lot of planning, I want to be 1255 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,100 clear, every four years, and I've been to almost every 1256 01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:05,160 convention since I was able to vote every four years. At a 1257 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,520 Democratic and Republican convention, there are protests, 1258 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,580 and there will be protests this time. We're going to protect 1259 01:11:11,580 --> 01:11:14,640 people's freedom of speech, but we're also going to protect the 1260 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,940 people who live here and the delegates that are coming to 1261 01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:18,240 visit. 1262 01:11:18,959 --> 01:11:22,699 Adam Curry: Did you guru in the troll room says I was there in 1263 01:11:22,699 --> 01:11:28,339 Grant Park for the 68 DNC convention. The cops were brutal 1264 01:11:28,339 --> 01:11:31,459 in beating the living daylights use a different word out of 1265 01:11:31,519 --> 01:11:35,419 anybody that was congregating around there, I had to run for 1266 01:11:35,419 --> 01:11:40,279 my life to escape the pandemonium at age 18, boots on 1267 01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:40,759 the ground. 1268 01:11:40,759 --> 01:11:42,819 John C Dvorak: The other thing they have to deal with, which 1269 01:11:42,819 --> 01:11:46,059 there's they're starting to talk about, is the hotels. 1270 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,520 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Burnham, 1271 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,060 John C Dvorak: this was a problem in 68 too. In fact, I 1272 01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:55,720 had a headline of front page of the sun times in the last 1273 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,140 newsletter, which was an epic fail, by the way. 1274 01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:02,639 Adam Curry: Yeah, no kidding. Thank God for meetups. 1275 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:08,580 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so the so the there's a fear that they're 1276 01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:10,860 going to track down the delegates as staying at the 1277 01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:13,680 various hotels around Chicago, and they're going to raid the 1278 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,060 hotels, pester them. 1279 01:12:15,660 --> 01:12:20,180 Adam Curry: Now, that may be thwarted by the latest idea, as 1280 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,560 DNC attendees, thanks to Planned Parenthood, and I would presume 1281 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,220 the organizers, uh, will have opportunity to get free 1282 01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:34,460 abortions and free vasectomies on site. Yes, it's I'm not 1283 01:12:34,460 --> 01:12:34,880 kidding. 1284 01:12:36,140 --> 01:12:39,320 John C Dvorak: Sign up boys for your free vasectomies. 1285 01:12:39,319 --> 01:12:45,459 Adam Curry: They have a van, and they have a van. Uh, beep, beep. 1286 01:12:46,359 --> 01:12:49,839 Health care, no matter where it's actually an RV with a slide 1287 01:12:49,839 --> 01:12:53,379 out. That's that's where they do the vasectomy part. Chicago, 1288 01:12:53,379 --> 01:12:56,799 we're headed your way to provide free vasectomies and abortions 1289 01:12:57,339 --> 01:13:01,859 Planned Parenthood from great rivers. That's good idea. 1290 01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:05,460 John C Dvorak: Go. Might as well. The Democrat parties, they 1291 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,880 notorious for having their balls cut off. Nice 1292 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,360 Adam Curry: looking van, by the way, RV, it's nice got it's got 1293 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,440 a slide out, everything. It's got to be a, goodness, great. 1294 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:22,820 That's got to be a 47 footer, huh? Everyone's laughing about 1295 01:13:22,820 --> 01:13:27,920 that. Of course, what you do on, on X, laugh about that stuff. 1296 01:13:27,980 --> 01:13:28,880 Laugh about it, 1297 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:33,140 Unknown: yeah. All right, all of this. I 1298 01:13:33,140 --> 01:13:35,240 John C Dvorak: got some, I got some Trump Harris stuff. Here. I 1299 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,780 want to get back and forth from NPR. This is Harris Trump back 1300 01:13:38,780 --> 01:13:43,600 and forth discussion that took place this week, 1301 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,060 Unknown: Vice President Kamala Harris and former President 1302 01:13:46,060 --> 01:13:50,320 Donald Trump outlined their plans to combat high prices. The 1303 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,500 dueling proposals reflect just how important inflation and 1304 01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:57,520 economy are to voters and pierce Franco Ordonez has been looking 1305 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,740 at both plans. Franco, thanks for being with us. 1306 01:13:59,739 --> 01:14:00,699 Thanks for having me, 1307 01:14:00,699 --> 01:14:03,119 Scott. Let's begin with the Harris plan. What can you tell 1308 01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:03,899 us? Well, I 1309 01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:07,440 mean, she's been facing some criticism for not offering her 1310 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:11,340 own vision of the job, how she would distinguish herself from 1311 01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:16,080 Biden, from bidenomics. Frankly, in North Carolina yesterday, she 1312 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,040 did acknowledge how tough it is for many middle income families, 1313 01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:22,700 because, look, the bills add up, 1314 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,120 food, rent, gas, 1315 01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:31,160 back to school, clothes, prescription medication. After 1316 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:36,200 all that, for many families, there's not much left at the end 1317 01:14:36,260 --> 01:14:36,920 of the month. 1318 01:14:37,220 --> 01:14:40,600 And while she didn't really get too specific, she did offer some 1319 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,480 broad outlines of what she described as a more forward 1320 01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:46,300 looking economic plan. It includes assistance for 1321 01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:50,140 homeowners, caps on drug prices. There's a lot of attention on a 1322 01:14:50,140 --> 01:14:53,140 proposal for a federal ban on price gouging in the food 1323 01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:57,100 industry. And she also wants to raise the child tax credit more 1324 01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:00,240 and eliminate taxes on tips. Which those two things? Things, 1325 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,520 by the way, are also being proposed by Trump as well. 1326 01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:06,360 Yeah. And so there is agreement between parts of the Harris and 1327 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,700 Trump plan. No, huge contrast, aren't there? 1328 01:15:08,820 --> 01:15:12,300 Yeah, big contrast. And Trump also laid out parts of his plan 1329 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:16,200 this week, again, not deep in specifics, but he plans to also 1330 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,380 eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits. He also 1331 01:15:19,380 --> 01:15:22,520 talked a lot about boosting fossil fuels and nuclear energy. 1332 01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:25,940 He really wants to roll back many of Biden's efforts to fight 1333 01:15:25,940 --> 01:15:29,600 climate change, which he blames for rising energy costs. 1334 01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:33,499 Adam Curry: Tell me if you don't want me to do this anymore, 1335 01:15:33,559 --> 01:15:37,819 urgent, urgent. Ted Cruz's race was named one of the most likely 1336 01:15:37,819 --> 01:15:43,479 to flip Russian emergency $32.75 to provide critical support. 1337 01:15:43,599 --> 01:15:48,339 Stop to end. It's just so you flood 1338 01:15:48,939 --> 01:15:51,459 John C Dvorak: Well you can, you can hold off for a while. Okay, 1339 01:15:51,519 --> 01:15:56,319 all right. But so you got a message within 10 minutes of 1340 01:15:56,319 --> 01:16:00,359 your opting out and another one. And now you just got a second 1341 01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:02,819 message, different numbers, of course. And gee, everybody 1342 01:16:02,819 --> 01:16:08,699 wonders why I put my phone in a drawer. Yes, different number, 1343 01:16:08,699 --> 01:16:13,739 yeah, of course. This is, should be illegal. These are number 1344 01:16:13,739 --> 01:16:14,519 spoofers. 1345 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:17,460 Adam Curry: Yes, it's time for a government ID so it can block 1346 01:16:17,460 --> 01:16:23,000 everyone who's sick. Okay, all right. So, and I've heard people 1347 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,520 look at these two economic plans and say, there's almost no 1348 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,740 daylight. You might as well go for the for the for the person 1349 01:16:27,740 --> 01:16:28,520 who's joyous, 1350 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,180 John C Dvorak: yeah, the person who's a liar, who won't do any 1351 01:16:32,180 --> 01:16:37,400 of these things. Yeah, vote for them. That's the thing I've been 1352 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,960 hearing, which is people who, who hear that the same basic 1353 01:16:41,140 --> 01:16:44,380 theory. You know, theoretical? Yes, why would? Why would the 1354 01:16:44,380 --> 01:16:47,500 Democrats, all of a sudden change course to such an extreme 1355 01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:50,860 and actually follow through? Does it make sense to anybody? 1356 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:51,940 Well, 1357 01:16:51,999 --> 01:16:55,359 Adam Curry: unfortunately, there's a great documentary 1358 01:16:56,079 --> 01:17:00,879 called, it's James, I think James Lindsay. He's in it a lot. 1359 01:17:00,879 --> 01:17:03,119 I don't know if it's I think someone else did. It's called 1360 01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:08,819 beneath sheep's clothing, and it tracks the Marxist movement in 1361 01:17:08,819 --> 01:17:12,659 the United States back to, you know, basically World War One, 1362 01:17:12,659 --> 01:17:16,259 when the women had to go into the factories and government 1363 01:17:16,259 --> 01:17:22,699 schools came into play. And we've had 100 years of Marxist 1364 01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:27,559 teaching and ideology and the people, and I know some of them 1365 01:17:27,559 --> 01:17:33,619 who are in Chicago, they really, really believe in people like 1366 01:17:33,619 --> 01:17:38,179 Kamala Harris. They believe in the black lady. They believe in 1367 01:17:38,179 --> 01:17:42,099 the lady. They believe in you know that Trump will take away 1368 01:17:42,099 --> 01:17:46,479 your rights. They have extreme victim mentality. And of course, 1369 01:17:46,539 --> 01:17:49,059 you know, throughout the documentary, not atypical for 1370 01:17:49,059 --> 01:17:51,879 James Lindsay is, you know, obviously it's Christian 1371 01:17:51,879 --> 01:17:55,419 nationalism, which is the problem, which is, which is the 1372 01:17:55,419 --> 01:18:00,099 inverse of Marxism. It's, it's, I don't think it's available for 1373 01:18:00,099 --> 01:18:04,199 free. I paid for it 12 bucks, well worth watching for a bit of 1374 01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:08,339 history of education in American and no one's ever going to 1375 01:18:08,339 --> 01:18:11,399 convince these people differently. You're just not. I 1376 01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:15,599 mean, they are for there. It's a form of MK Ultra. It's 1377 01:18:15,599 --> 01:18:20,599 brainwashing. They have been brainwashed. Generation of 1378 01:18:20,599 --> 01:18:23,899 generations. Everyone who I know, who didn't go to school in 1379 01:18:23,899 --> 01:18:29,659 recent years, myself included, is okay. Everyone who went 1380 01:18:29,659 --> 01:18:32,179 through the program, not okay. I 1381 01:18:32,179 --> 01:18:34,339 John C Dvorak: went to the program. No, I went to the 1382 01:18:34,339 --> 01:18:36,979 program in the in the belly of the beast, University of 1383 01:18:36,979 --> 01:18:38,359 California, Berkeley, not 1384 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,140 Adam Curry: as but it's progressively gotten worse with 1385 01:18:41,140 --> 01:18:43,120 media blanketing. I'm 1386 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,460 John C Dvorak: looking back on it and I'm wondering, well, you 1387 01:18:45,460 --> 01:18:46,000 know, 1388 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,640 Adam Curry: I do have my questions about you, to be quite 1389 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:55,840 honest, you were a Democrat for a while, but, you know, you got 1390 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,100 saved. Something happened? 1391 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,960 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I came to my senses. Yeah. Well, that 1392 01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:05,700 Adam Curry: does How old were you when you came to your sense? 1393 01:19:05,759 --> 01:19:07,439 John C Dvorak: It was a pretty late in the game. 1394 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,419 Adam Curry: I think I was, there you go. 1395 01:19:09,780 --> 01:19:12,900 John C Dvorak: These are young. That is a problem, but, but it 1396 01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:16,380 after a while, you keep noticing that the Democrats, the way I 1397 01:19:16,380 --> 01:19:20,100 saw it, the Democrats, were going out of their way to to 1398 01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:24,860 kill me. They are. They were out to kill the baby boomers to get 1399 01:19:24,860 --> 01:19:28,520 ridden. They're they're very and the population control oriented 1400 01:19:29,060 --> 01:19:32,720 when the Vietnam War was killing the baby boomers. Yeah, the 1401 01:19:33,020 --> 01:19:35,720 situation that would Jimmy Carter, but 1402 01:19:35,780 --> 01:19:38,540 Adam Curry: hold on. But at least then television was 1403 01:19:38,540 --> 01:19:43,060 showing blown up guys on the battlefield that was new. You 1404 01:19:43,060 --> 01:19:47,440 don't see blown up guys in Iraq, Afghanistan, any you know, 1405 01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:52,600 Syria, you don't see that. You don't see the horrors of war. By 1406 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,660 the way, we finally know what the C in John C Dvorak stands 1407 01:19:55,660 --> 01:20:02,100 for, communist. That's right, commie. I mean, that was unfair. 1408 01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:02,940 That was unfair. 1409 01:20:03,179 --> 01:20:05,279 John C Dvorak: It was unfair. I'm not a communist. I never had 1410 01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:09,719 been. In fact, even when I was a little kid, we, there was a lot 1411 01:20:09,719 --> 01:20:11,999 of anti communist stuff taught to us, 1412 01:20:12,180 --> 01:20:13,800 Adam Curry: well, yeah, you went through, you went through the 1413 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,140 Red Scare and all that. Yeah, 1414 01:20:16,139 --> 01:20:18,359 John C Dvorak: we and it was always it was, it was it was 1415 01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:20,899 probably good. It probably had some long yes effect, yes. 1416 01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:23,420 Adam Curry: This is why it's good. And I think we're going 1417 01:20:23,420 --> 01:20:27,980 through a cycle where Kamala is being called communists, 1418 01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:33,320 communists, whatever you know they're doing with the K to tie 1419 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,400 it into common communist Yeah. And is good. We need another Red 1420 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,860 Scare. We need to be afraid of communism is Marxism 1421 01:20:41,860 --> 01:20:45,220 specifically, but Kamala communists, it goes well 1422 01:20:45,220 --> 01:20:49,420 together. We need that with that is what's necessary to wake 1423 01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:53,260 people up again and that they want. I 1424 01:20:53,260 --> 01:20:55,300 John C Dvorak: think the house on America, un American 1425 01:20:55,300 --> 01:20:59,260 Activities Committee would be a useful tool. Yeah, that's been 1426 01:20:59,260 --> 01:21:00,520 disbanded in the 70s. 1427 01:21:00,700 --> 01:21:02,460 Adam Curry: John for Congress. There you go. 1428 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,060 John C Dvorak: There's a there's a that I wrote about this. Yes, 1429 01:21:06,060 --> 01:21:07,620 you brought me in. You did. You did, 1430 01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:09,180 Adam Curry: all right. Clip two, 1431 01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:10,200 John C Dvorak: part two. Clip two. And 1432 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,260 Unknown: I gather they also included some sharp attacks on 1433 01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:14,520 vice president terrorists. 1434 01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:18,360 They certainly did. I mean, Trump's been under pressure from 1435 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,320 Republicans to tone down the personal attacks, and I've 1436 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,440 spoken with allies who say Trump should really stick to his 1437 01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:28,220 winning message, which is, are you better off now with Harris 1438 01:21:28,220 --> 01:21:31,640 and Biden than you were with Trump? I mean, the election is 1439 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,820 less than three months away, and they say that he's wasting 1440 01:21:34,820 --> 01:21:38,120 precious opportunities to highlight the contrast high 1441 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,280 issues like the economy and the border, but it doesn't look like 1442 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,000 he's going to hold back from criticizing Harris, and not just 1443 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:46,840 on policy. 1444 01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:50,080 I think I'm entitled to personal attacks. I don't have a lot of 1445 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,800 respect for I don't have a lot of respect for her intelligence, 1446 01:21:54,220 --> 01:21:57,640 and I think she'll be a terrible president, and I think it's very 1447 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,260 important that we win, and whether the personal attacks are 1448 01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:04,320 good bad. I mean, she certainly attacks me personally. She 1449 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,480 actually called me weird. He's weird. 1450 01:22:06,539 --> 01:22:08,879 Yeah, that weird line has really gotten under his skin, 1451 01:22:08,879 --> 01:22:12,599 apparently, and ultimately, though, what he made clear at 1452 01:22:12,599 --> 01:22:16,259 his press conference was that he's the candidate, and he needs 1453 01:22:16,259 --> 01:22:17,579 to do it his own way. 1454 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,220 Adam Curry: He's so lucky he has Vance to go out there and 1455 01:22:22,220 --> 01:22:25,700 translate him. What a genius choice. 1456 01:22:26,359 --> 01:22:29,059 John C Dvorak: Yeah, and he keeps saying that he's regretful 1457 01:22:29,059 --> 01:22:33,919 that he picked Vance. I see the media says that I have seen no 1458 01:22:33,919 --> 01:22:35,059 evidence of this. 1459 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,400 Adam Curry: Did you see the latest Vanity Fair? 1460 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,340 John C Dvorak: They know I did. Oh, they did a real hit job on 1461 01:22:42,340 --> 01:22:43,420 who, non 1462 01:22:43,420 --> 01:22:46,720 Adam Curry: Trump, Trump. Donald Trump has watched a video clip 1463 01:22:46,780 --> 01:22:50,140 of the attempt on his life at a Pennsylvania rally, quote over 1464 01:22:50,140 --> 01:22:53,620 and over again, leading to fears that he may be suffering from 1465 01:22:53,620 --> 01:22:57,880 PTSD. This is, according to people familiar with the 1466 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,680 campaign. The forms were 1467 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,400 John C Dvorak: that I Okay. I heard this. I heard about this. 1468 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,700 And this, this idea that Trump has PTSD. Here 1469 01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:07,980 Adam Curry: it is. He's been watching that seven second clip 1470 01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:10,800 of how close he was to getting shot right in the head. Over and 1471 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,640 over again, the Republican close to the campaign told Vanity 1472 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:22,460 Fair, the Republican close to the Trump campaign, I just love 1473 01:23:22,460 --> 01:23:26,060 that the Republican, some dude who voted Republican once, who's 1474 01:23:26,180 --> 01:23:29,660 sweeping the floor, told Vanity Fair that the former president's 1475 01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:33,560 recent run of appearances and subsequent gaffes felt like he 1476 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:39,380 was choosing to lose allies of Trump see His conspiratorial 1477 01:23:39,380 --> 01:23:44,260 messages and insults based on race as anything but productive. 1478 01:23:44,260 --> 01:23:47,200 This comes back to your clip. They want him to focus on his 1479 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,340 attacks on policy issues such as immigration and the economy, 1480 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,580 rather than personal attacks against Harris. This is 1481 01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:58,960 literally what the NPR guy just said. So it's the same. It's 1482 01:23:58,960 --> 01:23:59,920 messaging. This 1483 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,880 John C Dvorak: is, this is a schema? Yes, a schema. And I 1484 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,600 think the mistake they're making is that when they brought the 1485 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,860 PTSD thing up, and this has come up in the conversation around 1486 01:24:10,860 --> 01:24:15,540 the house, they're getting a sympathy vote for Trump. He's so 1487 01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,420 Adam Curry: stupid. They all they do all they do with 1488 01:24:18,420 --> 01:24:20,420 everything. Was a huge I think it's a blunder. Yeah, 1489 01:24:20,420 --> 01:24:23,120 John C Dvorak: I agree if you think that Trump is suffering 1490 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:27,440 from PTSD because they shot at him, that which is possible, 1491 01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:32,540 yeah, but then you feel sorry for Trump. Oh, that's terrible. 1492 01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:36,380 He's suffering from the horrible attempt on his life. I feel bad 1493 01:24:36,380 --> 01:24:39,320 about that. Yeah, this is not what you're trying to do here, 1494 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:40,540 to get him voted out. But 1495 01:24:40,540 --> 01:24:43,720 Adam Curry: you're right. It's, it's a schema. It's the same, 1496 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:50,200 same messaging in Vanity Fair of all places as NPR, brought to 1497 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,460 you by any Liebowitz, 1498 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,540 John C Dvorak: yeah, this is, well, this is all coordinated, 1499 01:24:55,540 --> 01:24:56,200 yes, 1500 01:24:56,260 --> 01:25:01,740 Adam Curry: yes. It's great. Hello. Four more. You. Years. So 1501 01:25:01,740 --> 01:25:04,800 done with this nonsense. All right. Final clip, Franco, what 1502 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,840 Unknown: will you be looking for at the Democratic National 1503 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,040 Convention next week? 1504 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,560 Well, I mean, the economy isn't the strongest issue for 1505 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,140 Democrats, so I'm not so sure how much they're going to be 1506 01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:16,620 talking about that. You were just talking about the protests 1507 01:25:16,620 --> 01:25:20,480 over Gaza. Are they going to find their way into the arena? I 1508 01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:24,680 mean, there is going to be a lot of attention on Harris next week 1509 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:29,360 for good and bad. So I will want to see the contrast with the 1510 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,960 Republican convention in Milwaukee from just a few weeks 1511 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,040 ago, where there really was this kind of sense of inevitability 1512 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,520 among Republicans that Trump was going to win. I mean, the change 1513 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,800 the race has changed so much. The dynamics have changed so 1514 01:25:44,860 --> 01:25:48,520 much. I'm also, of course, focusing a lot on the Trump 1515 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,780 campaign. So I will be watching how they respond and try to take 1516 01:25:52,780 --> 01:25:57,040 back some of the spotlight. Next week, I expect Trump will be 1517 01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,380 pretty busy as well. Yeah, 1518 01:25:59,379 --> 01:26:01,739 Adam Curry: counter programming, of course, he's already, he's 1519 01:26:01,739 --> 01:26:04,739 already signaled that he's gonna do something big. Yeah, 1520 01:26:04,799 --> 01:26:07,379 John C Dvorak: he does that all the time. Yeah, that's a smart 1521 01:26:07,379 --> 01:26:07,919 idea 1522 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,260 Adam Curry: that we done with Trump Harris. 1523 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,480 John C Dvorak: Yeah. I think so. Well 1524 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,280 Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. 1525 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,940 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in schema, say 1526 01:26:17,940 --> 01:26:20,960 hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John 1527 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,080 C, 1528 01:26:25,340 --> 01:26:27,200 John C Dvorak: D, radio, Mr. Adam curry and Maria ship C 1529 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,600 Woodson, brown fee near subs, award games. Nice out there. 1530 01:26:29,660 --> 01:26:30,500 Hello, 1531 01:26:30,860 --> 01:26:37,760 Adam Curry: trolls. Very helpful today, trying to count you 1532 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:43,540 trolls. Okay, there we go. 2418, nice, up, up from last week. The 1533 01:26:43,540 --> 01:26:46,060 closer we get to the election, the more it looks like a horse 1534 01:26:46,060 --> 01:26:48,640 race, the more the trolls want to tune in and hear about the 1535 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,700 schemas that are going on. And there in the darkness is the 1536 01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:55,420 shining light of curry and Dvorak to help you understand 1537 01:26:55,420 --> 01:26:58,960 something like that, to help you understand what's going on in 1538 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,640 your world. Yoke trolls hanging out in the troll room. Troll 1539 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:09,060 room.io. Of course, this live stream 24/7 you can drop in just 1540 01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:13,620 you can lurk. Whatever happened to lurking used to be, I was 1541 01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:17,640 just lurking. Nope, no. Lawyer, you control. That's really the 1542 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:22,880 whole idea. It's a 24/7 live podcasts, repeats of podcasts 1543 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,740 that are all part of the big no agenda nation station. And every 1544 01:27:27,740 --> 01:27:30,380 single Thursday and Sunday, when we kick it off live before that, 1545 01:27:30,380 --> 01:27:34,100 we have Darren O'Neill, Darren O'Neal doing the Rock and Roll 1546 01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:36,980 pre show. And there's always some something interesting after 1547 01:27:36,980 --> 01:27:40,360 our show. It's good. And you can also listen to this in the 1548 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,360 modern podcast apps drop the legacy apps. You will 1549 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,660 eventually, because something, if you like this show, if it's 1550 01:27:46,660 --> 01:27:49,120 not this show, there will be some other podcast that has 1551 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,660 dropped the legacy apps drop an average of three to four every 1552 01:27:52,660 --> 01:27:55,360 single day. I know this because I know all the hosting companies 1553 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,020 and, you know, it gets fed back to them, up that, and sometimes 1554 01:27:59,020 --> 01:28:03,000 it's just an episode, you know, Spotify literally removes 1555 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,200 certain episodes they don't like, which is, like, that's 1556 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:07,800 weird. 1557 01:28:10,739 --> 01:28:12,179 Unknown: Don't use the word weird. 1558 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,400 John C Dvorak: Thank you. So I wanted to compliment. I wanted 1559 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,680 to compliment Darren for doing a call out for poor old Greg kin 1560 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,640 who died? Yes, my life's in general. Local boys like lives 1561 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:26,660 in Berkeley, my 1562 01:28:26,660 --> 01:28:30,320 Adam Curry: life's in jeopardy. Baby only had one hit, 1563 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,340 John C Dvorak: one, yeah, and that wasn't his best song. No, 1564 01:28:34,340 --> 01:28:39,620 he was a, basically a bar band. Did you know him? I didn't know. 1565 01:28:39,620 --> 01:28:42,520 I'm never met him, but he was, you'd see him around town. He 1566 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,840 was just one of the locals. 1567 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,400 Adam Curry: Pick up one of those modern podcast apps at podcast 1568 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,060 apps.com as a benefit, there's something I want to mention. 1569 01:28:52,060 --> 01:28:56,560 Every one of the modern podcast Apps has a donate button for the 1570 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,860 show, and so when you're listening to it on the app, 1571 01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:02,460 you're like, you know, I should support these guys, because the 1572 01:29:02,460 --> 01:29:05,400 value I'm getting out of it. You just look at the top, and 1573 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,420 there's a little little button that some say support. Some say 1574 01:29:09,420 --> 01:29:12,600 someone has a little dollar sign, or a euro sign. You tap it 1575 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:17,280 goes right to no agenda donations.com. That is also an 1576 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,600 innovation we put into podcasting, 2.0 you can't do 1577 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,620 that on Apple. Can't do it on Spotify. Just a little little 1578 01:29:24,620 --> 01:29:27,860 added bonus, which I think is good, is handy. Same for DH. Oh, 1579 01:29:27,860 --> 01:29:32,780 I'm sorry, dH, unplugged is still on. What's that stupid 1580 01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:38,360 feed burner? You got to talk to Horowitz about that. 1581 01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:42,279 John C Dvorak: Well, he listens to the show. You can tell him 1582 01:29:42,279 --> 01:29:42,459 right 1583 01:29:42,460 --> 01:29:46,420 Adam Curry: now, he's on feed burner. It will only be a few 1584 01:29:46,420 --> 01:29:49,600 weeks before you know Google turns Google owns it. They can 1585 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,860 turn it off at any minute. 1586 01:29:52,420 --> 01:29:54,400 John C Dvorak: I'll tell I'll talk to him about moving it. 1587 01:29:54,460 --> 01:29:55,180 Yes, 1588 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,420 Adam Curry: we have to. We have to move it. It's ridiculous. 1589 01:29:59,020 --> 01:30:07,740 Feed burner. I actually got a call back from, you know, before 1590 01:30:07,740 --> 01:30:10,380 we get into thanking some of our executive and Associate 1591 01:30:10,380 --> 01:30:15,000 Executive producers, I had the ex Disney guy call me back about 1592 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:20,840 our about our cable idea. He likes it. He likes it a lot, 1593 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,380 actually. And I said, you want to be CEO, and let me see, did 1594 01:30:24,380 --> 01:30:25,580 he text me after that? 1595 01:30:27,020 --> 01:30:29,300 John C Dvorak: He ghosted you after that? No, he didn't. 1596 01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:31,460 Adam Curry: Actually, he's no, he said that he was going to, 1597 01:30:31,460 --> 01:30:33,920 let me tell you what he was going to reach out to. He was 1598 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,700 going to reach out to some people for us. Now he had some 1599 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,740 he, first of all, he's working at some FinTech company. So I'm 1600 01:30:41,740 --> 01:30:46,960 sure he'd be happy to to get back into something sexy. He 1601 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:51,520 says he knows. Who does he know here? Friend of mine in LA was 1602 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:57,880 number two at Hulu, then ran HBO Max. I'll ask him. And I know a 1603 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,380 strategy guy at NBC who was really involved in peacock. So 1604 01:31:01,380 --> 01:31:03,360 he's gonna, you know, we got real people on it, man, 1605 01:31:03,959 --> 01:31:05,159 John C Dvorak: that's real people. That's, 1606 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,800 Adam Curry: that's some real people. Yeah, I met, but I said, 1607 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,680 I said to him, I said, Dude, you need to run this. You'd be 1608 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,140 great. Because, you know, Adam and John are not going to do 1609 01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:13,740 anything. We're 1610 01:31:15,540 --> 01:31:16,920 Unknown: not going to run anything. 1611 01:31:19,260 --> 01:31:22,280 Adam Curry: In the meantime, we are still value for value, and 1612 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,180 we love it to 1613 01:31:23,180 --> 01:31:26,180 John C Dvorak: do anything. We didn't do a lot of work. We do 1614 01:31:26,180 --> 01:31:30,380 some we thought we were big thinkers. Well, 1615 01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:32,840 Adam Curry: just look at the landscape paramount. Television 1616 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,980 Studios shutting down. So, I mean, they're shutting down. You 1617 01:31:36,980 --> 01:31:39,740 know, are you? Did we talk about to be? You know what to be is. 1618 01:31:39,980 --> 01:31:40,520 Do you have to? 1619 01:31:40,580 --> 01:31:43,000 John C Dvorak: I know what to be is, but we didn't talk about it. 1620 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:43,120 No. 1621 01:31:43,300 --> 01:31:47,740 Adam Curry: So Tubi is they have the largest catalog of old 1622 01:31:47,740 --> 01:31:52,480 movies and TV shows, old, old stuff, you know, Hogan's Heroes 1623 01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:56,080 level, because it's very cheap for them to have. They're 1624 01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,360 completely ad based. Word on the street is they were going to 1625 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:07,200 report 50% drop in advertising, five, zero. And there's a this 1626 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:13,440 is your recession coming. And the funniest news of all was 1627 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:18,420 crooked media. These are the guys who do pod save America. 1628 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,960 John C Dvorak: Yeah. And why? Why would you call yourself 1629 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,160 crooked media. 1630 01:32:23,420 --> 01:32:25,340 Adam Curry: You know, who cares? 1631 01:32:25,820 --> 01:32:28,700 John C Dvorak: It's ironic, maybe. Or it's like, hahaha, 1632 01:32:28,700 --> 01:32:29,660 it's funny. So 1633 01:32:29,660 --> 01:32:32,300 Adam Curry: they have, I think they have 70 or 80 people 1634 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,320 working on these shows. I mean, I know pod save America, pod 1635 01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:41,080 save the UK, uh, love it, or leave it. Never heard that one, 1636 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,720 and they now signed with the Writers Guild of America East. 1637 01:32:47,260 --> 01:32:54,700 Yeah, and listen to this. Starting salary, $80,000.49 days 1638 01:32:54,940 --> 01:32:58,120 paid time off. You imagine that? Wouldn't that be nice? 49 1639 01:32:58,420 --> 01:33:00,360 John C Dvorak: days paid time off is like. What are these? 1640 01:33:00,420 --> 01:33:04,920 This is a European idea, even only the French. They don't even 1641 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:09,300 have 45 the French take the rich French take off on Bastille Day, 1642 01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:11,220 and then they take off the entire month of August. 1643 01:33:11,220 --> 01:33:13,800 Everybody takes but that's only 45 days, 1644 01:33:14,340 --> 01:33:22,460 Adam Curry: if, um, maternity leave, 20 weeks, 20 weeks, 1645 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,220 John C Dvorak: and it has to be paid for. Yes, 1646 01:33:25,460 --> 01:33:26,840 Adam Curry: they're gonna go they're gonna go out of 1647 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:32,360 business. That's impossible to do in podcasting. I just don't 1648 01:33:32,420 --> 01:33:33,440 believe that they can 1649 01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,359 John C Dvorak: make especially with the staffs that they have, 1650 01:33:35,359 --> 01:33:37,939 they have way too many people producing these shows. They got 1651 01:33:37,939 --> 01:33:41,379 writers and producers and engineers, and they'll pay $955 1652 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:47,140 Adam Curry: a month towards health insurance, which is low 1653 01:33:47,140 --> 01:33:54,040 minimum, 13 weeks of severance, guaranteed, 12 hour minimum rest 1654 01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,340 time between end of work and Next day start cell phone 1655 01:33:57,340 --> 01:34:03,840 stipend, commuting reimbursement. Yes. Hello, hi. 1656 01:34:04,020 --> 01:34:11,100 We want to join crooked media. Instead. We don't really want to 1657 01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:13,860 do that. We love what we do, and we love our trucks, and we love 1658 01:34:13,860 --> 01:34:18,600 our artists. That's one of the primary time and talent measures 1659 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,340 that we look at of people supporting the show. We have 1660 01:34:22,340 --> 01:34:26,480 many professional artists. Many of them are, I think all of them 1661 01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:31,880 are Dutch masters. You always think about all the AI art, and 1662 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:39,080 I realize that, you know, AI creates, it can create art. But 1663 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,360 I'd like someone to type into the prompt create a funny image 1664 01:34:43,540 --> 01:34:48,700 based on this exchange from the show. See, that is what is 1665 01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:57,460 missing from Ai. It can't make up funny stuff yet. No, please. 1666 01:34:57,460 --> 01:35:00,480 You know how many people send me end of show mixes. Listen to 1667 01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:04,020 this great song I made, and I look at him like, Okay, you 1668 01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:06,780 listen. Like, right away. It's a professional sounding song. It's 1669 01:35:06,780 --> 01:35:11,520 AI. It's not funny, if it's not a cover, if it's not a parody, 1670 01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:15,660 it's almost never funny. It's just a song. And you fed it some 1671 01:35:15,660 --> 01:35:19,260 lyrics, and you hear the auto tune. It's like, Yeah, okay. 1672 01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:28,460 It's never a hit. It's never a hit yet. Well, when it gets to 1673 01:35:28,460 --> 01:35:32,660 that point, I had to love nothing more to not have to show 1674 01:35:32,660 --> 01:35:35,360 up, John, I'm telling you, but I just don't believe it's true. I 1675 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,960 don't think that AI understand your position, and do you think 1676 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:48,760 that it AI can't do what we do yet. Yeah, exactly. 1677 01:35:50,020 --> 01:35:55,000 John C Dvorak: Well, I'd say 1000 years from now. Okay, 1678 01:35:56,620 --> 01:35:59,920 Adam Curry: we want to thank sir Shug, aka faux Diddley, for 1679 01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:03,300 bringing us the artwork for Episode 1686, we titled that 1680 01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:08,100 publical Something our dear friend, Dr Tedros said it was, I 1681 01:36:08,220 --> 01:36:12,960 think, a veterinarian. And this was kamalas cackle. Now with 1682 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,200 more PBA, it's the candy that all the kids are crazy about. 1683 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,920 Camels cackle. It was good. It was a typical no agenda packet 1684 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:27,200 shot 333, calorie. Calories. It had it all in there. And I don't 1685 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,560 know if I don't think this was AI, it looks like Photoshop to 1686 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:37,220 me. I can see the anomalies in the cackle. So actual work was 1687 01:36:37,220 --> 01:36:41,080 done, which we do always appreciate. Let's take a look at 1688 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:45,160 some of the other artwork that was submitted. We did talk for a 1689 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:49,000 second about Darren O'Neill's no agenda airport. Everybody be 1690 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:56,200 nice again. Stop with the Biden and the and the Kamala heads. 1691 01:36:56,260 --> 01:36:58,720 We're not going to choose it, especially 1692 01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,780 John C Dvorak: when it doesn't even look like them. I like 1693 01:37:00,779 --> 01:37:03,479 Adam Curry: sloth fever, but we didn't really talk about sloth 1694 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:07,079 fever. Yeah, we did. I didn't like it. No, we didn't talk 1695 01:37:07,079 --> 01:37:11,759 about sloth fever on the show. That was uh Ness works. God, no, 1696 01:37:11,759 --> 01:37:11,879 we 1697 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,280 John C Dvorak: did. We did briefly, very briefly, we 1698 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,500 mentioned it. It was a very short bit, 1699 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,960 Adam Curry: you know, and you get like, Matthew dropco 1700 01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,780 Uploading a whole bunch of waltz, interviewing Harris. No, 1701 01:37:23,900 --> 01:37:27,200 no. It's just, it's just slick art because AI did it. But this 1702 01:37:27,380 --> 01:37:33,200 is no comedy to it. There's no comedy. This is, this is the 1703 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,440 problem and, and I think that that a lot of artists, good 1704 01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:40,220 artists, become gun shy, like, oh, well, I could never create 1705 01:37:40,220 --> 01:37:43,180 something that good looking. We put poop looking art up there. 1706 01:37:43,180 --> 01:37:48,220 If it's funny, it doesn't have to be perfectly slickly done. 1707 01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:50,920 Back me up here. 1708 01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:56,140 John C Dvorak: I totally agree with it. We don't. If it's a 1709 01:37:56,140 --> 01:38:02,160 sketch done by hand that is funny, yeah, and has some it has 1710 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,740 dimensionality, which is my thing, which is you got to have 1711 01:38:04,740 --> 01:38:08,880 some references to 33 and all the other stuff that goes on on 1712 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:13,500 the show in general. ITM Yeah, then we're good to go with it. 1713 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:18,480 But yeah, the slick stuff is all AI created, but it's, it's we 1714 01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:21,740 said it before. It's soulless, mostly, and 1715 01:38:21,740 --> 01:38:25,640 Adam Curry: that's why Darren O'Neill often wins with AI 1716 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,600 because Darren understands comedy. He understands what's 1717 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:30,620 funny well. 1718 01:38:30,620 --> 01:38:33,500 John C Dvorak: Also we asked Darren for to show us his 1719 01:38:33,500 --> 01:38:36,740 prompts on one of the art pieces he did. He sent us an email 1720 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:41,380 showing every prompt he did, every piece that came out of it 1721 01:38:41,380 --> 01:38:45,640 and went on and on, he spends as much time prompt prompting the 1722 01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:50,680 AI art generator to produce what he wants than if he did it by 1723 01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:51,340 hand, which 1724 01:38:51,340 --> 01:38:53,440 Adam Curry: actually means that we should have a lot more really 1725 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:57,160 good art, because we have a lot of funny producers out there who 1726 01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:00,960 can't do art at all, but No, instead, It's like Kamala eating 1727 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,820 an ice cream cone. Okay, 1728 01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:04,980 Unknown: no. 1729 01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:09,839 Adam Curry: And this and dropco. Dropco is funny. He has humor, 1730 01:39:10,499 --> 01:39:14,279 and then he brings us this. I mean, I love dropco. He's won 1731 01:39:14,279 --> 01:39:21,019 recently, but yeah, Tim Rogers Neighborhood, no, no. It's just 1732 01:39:21,019 --> 01:39:23,899 not funny. It's hard. Humor is hard, 1733 01:39:25,220 --> 01:39:25,940 Unknown: very hard 1734 01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:30,499 Adam Curry: and and right now I can tell you, I see nothing. 1735 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,340 John C Dvorak: I see nothing, correct. 1736 01:39:35,420 --> 01:39:39,320 Adam Curry: But we thank you very much, foe diddly, sir Shug, 1737 01:39:39,500 --> 01:39:43,240 for your contribution, your wonderful value that you have 1738 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,800 provided us. You can provide value in time, talent and 1739 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,880 treasure. If you're confused about the concept, value number 1740 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,120 four, value, dot info, it's pretty good. Write up. Been 1741 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,180 doing this for a long, long time, so long in fact, that 1742 01:39:58,180 --> 01:40:01,080 other people think they've come up with it. Yeah. It's amazing 1743 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,680 how often I hear that, yeah, man, it's a Bitcoin thing. No, 1744 01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:10,800 no, it's not. It's from this show. And it did. I went back 1745 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,840 and listened to some of our early shows, and I think I did 1746 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:20,600 know that we, we came up with a model very early on of just send 1747 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,420 us whatever it's worth to you. That's how we positioned it. 1748 01:40:23,780 --> 01:40:26,660 You're listening to the show. You're getting some value out of 1749 01:40:26,660 --> 01:40:30,560 it. If you like more of it, then provide that value back. That's 1750 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,180 how simple it is. But it was, in fact, around Episode 160 I think 1751 01:40:35,420 --> 01:40:40,960 that I had read Atlas Shrugged. Took a month and 1752 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,620 John C Dvorak: read Atlas, shrugged less shrug, and that's 1753 01:40:44,620 --> 01:40:44,920 where it 1754 01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,440 Adam Curry: and that's where the value for value came from, from 1755 01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:51,460 something in that book. So if anything, I and Rand gets some 1756 01:40:51,460 --> 01:40:55,660 credit, but the model itself and the feedback loop of thanking 1757 01:40:55,660 --> 01:40:59,680 people for the for producing the show, not calling you listeners 1758 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,420 or fans, insulting you with that instead calling you producers, 1759 01:41:03,420 --> 01:41:09,240 which you really are. I mean, here's an example. Rob the 1760 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:16,320 constitutional lawyer. He sent me a note. He said he loved, he 1761 01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:24,440 loved your EULA. Idea of having a minor sign a EULA, and he 1762 01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:29,360 added to it, I'll read it for the day. Jcds legal hack with 1763 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:33,800 minors is gold in most jurisdictions. It's even better 1764 01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:39,200 than he knows. Miners can indeed sign contracts, but only the 1765 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:43,420 miners can enforce them. So if Disney were to try to enforce a 1766 01:41:43,420 --> 01:41:46,960 EULA signed by a miner, the miner can walk away. But if 1767 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:50,260 Disney were to breach a provision in the EULA, the miner 1768 01:41:50,260 --> 01:41:54,100 can pounce with both feet. In other words, the contract isn't 1769 01:41:54,100 --> 01:42:00,780 void, per se, but voidable at the miner's sole option. How 1770 01:42:00,780 --> 01:42:02,880 about that? Yeah, 1771 01:42:04,380 --> 01:42:06,000 John C Dvorak: learn something new every day. That's a good 1772 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:06,840 one. Yeah, 1773 01:42:07,379 --> 01:42:11,279 Adam Curry: exactly. Production. Producers. We have more than we 1774 01:42:11,279 --> 01:42:12,779 have more than crooked media. Make 1775 01:42:12,780 --> 01:42:15,120 John C Dvorak: sure your kids sign those EULAs. That's right. 1776 01:42:16,140 --> 01:42:18,240 Adam Curry: We have more producers than crooked media, 1777 01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:21,200 but don't you dare get pregnant before 1778 01:42:22,340 --> 01:42:23,120 John C Dvorak: paramount. 1779 01:42:23,180 --> 01:42:25,700 Adam Curry: Don't you doubt you dare get pregnant because you're 1780 01:42:25,700 --> 01:42:30,440 not getting 20 weeks paid off at all. And now we'd like to thank 1781 01:42:30,440 --> 01:42:33,200 our executive and Associate Executive producers. Now these 1782 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,720 are the producers who come in and really save the day. In 1783 01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,260 fact, many of them were at the Albany meetup. Otherwise, sad 1784 01:42:39,260 --> 01:42:41,680 puppy would have been crawling all over this thing today. 1785 01:42:41,739 --> 01:42:43,299 John C Dvorak: Well, the sad puppy should have been out 1786 01:42:43,299 --> 01:42:46,779 anyway, but the meetup did save the day. But I will. I want to 1787 01:42:46,779 --> 01:42:51,759 compliment Steve, the recalcitrant night. He organized 1788 01:42:51,759 --> 01:42:54,999 it. Who organizes? He does all the meetups over on the East 1789 01:42:54,999 --> 01:42:58,419 Bay, and he did a tremendous job. And then I was talking to 1790 01:42:58,419 --> 01:43:01,859 Mimi about it, because we had about, oh, at least 40 people, 1791 01:43:01,859 --> 01:43:05,279 maybe more, considering the last time we did the mallard Club was 1792 01:43:05,279 --> 01:43:08,819 like 12 people, nobody showed up. Was very low. And so then I 1793 01:43:08,819 --> 01:43:13,679 noticed that Mimi read his his plea, and he used the guilt 1794 01:43:14,399 --> 01:43:18,899 sales pitch. Oh, really, good job. What do you do to guilt 1795 01:43:18,899 --> 01:43:21,679 everybody? He didn't know. I don't think he knew what he was 1796 01:43:21,739 --> 01:43:25,159 up to. He was just doing it naturally. He was he does a 1797 01:43:25,159 --> 01:43:29,059 great job. I like this guy. And so he guilted everyone, saying 1798 01:43:29,059 --> 01:43:32,659 John, and nobody showed up last time, and Adams getting hundreds 1799 01:43:32,659 --> 01:43:36,319 of people, and we love John, and everyone looks like they hate 1800 01:43:36,319 --> 01:43:40,959 him. He goes, and I mean, wow. And I'm thinking, and so that we 1801 01:43:40,959 --> 01:43:43,839 had a big crowd. And not only that, but they were generous. 1802 01:43:43,839 --> 01:43:46,479 This was not a minor amount of money. This is 1803 01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,459 Adam Curry: probably the one of the, the most 1804 01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,119 John C Dvorak: per head, I think, is probably the highest 1805 01:43:52,119 --> 01:43:56,379 we've ever done, one of the most generous meetups in a while. So 1806 01:43:56,499 --> 01:44:01,139 that was a big deal, the way it works. Go ahead. Well, I'm just 1807 01:44:01,139 --> 01:44:03,599 saying that. I just wanted to thank Steven. I hope you got his 1808 01:44:03,599 --> 01:44:06,899 ball of Pinot Noir out of this. There's that the guy didn't 1809 01:44:06,899 --> 01:44:07,919 forget to give it to him. 1810 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,900 Adam Curry: So the way it works is, if you donate $200 to an 1811 01:44:12,900 --> 01:44:17,100 episode of the show or above, you become an Associate 1812 01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,560 Executive Producer, it's a real credit. You can use this 1813 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,520 anywhere show business. Credits are recognized. You can use it 1814 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:26,180 anywhere you want, but it will be accepted anywhere, including 1815 01:44:26,180 --> 01:44:30,020 imdb.com, if you don't have an a production account, that you can 1816 01:44:30,020 --> 01:44:33,800 open one up and go ahead and go search for no agenda, see how 1817 01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,980 many executive and Associate Executive Producers are. There 1818 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,920 are also, we'll read your notes, $300 or above. We'll read your 1819 01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,880 note, and you are an executive producer, and that at the top of 1820 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:47,320 the list, we have Ben nidus from San Francisco, who came in with 1821 01:44:47,500 --> 01:44:55,000 $622 equivalent, I believe he gave you gold and silver. He 1822 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:55,300 had, 1823 01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,400 John C Dvorak: well, a little piece of gold, but it was a 1824 01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,600 chunk. He bought this from a Metal Exchange. And. A big 1825 01:45:01,020 --> 01:45:02,460 piece, a giant piece 1826 01:45:02,460 --> 01:45:05,340 Adam Curry: of silver. Nice, five ounces. 1827 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:10,080 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was a big chunk of silver. And so you have 1828 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,120 to, I don't know what we're gonna do. How are we gonna get 1829 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,160 that into the bank? But I have it. 1830 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,380 Adam Curry: What? The bank won't accept silver. What is this 1831 01:45:16,380 --> 01:45:17,880 nonsense? Yeah, 1832 01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:19,740 John C Dvorak: it's California. They don't accept, they will 1833 01:45:19,740 --> 01:45:22,160 accept gold. I think they have a little scale there. You can drop 1834 01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:22,580 it off. 1835 01:45:22,820 --> 01:45:25,280 Adam Curry: Well, he gave us five grams of gold and five 1836 01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:29,360 ounces of silver to make him the Duke of San Francisco and and I 1837 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,140 appreciate that. I often have to correct people about the value 1838 01:45:33,140 --> 01:45:38,840 for value model. And if you use PayPal stripe, you abuse voter 1839 01:45:38,900 --> 01:45:43,360 book, no people send us check. Was it 40% checks? Because that 1840 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:44,260 high? Is that too high? 1841 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,060 John C Dvorak: That's way too high. Oh, 1842 01:45:46,180 --> 01:45:47,320 Adam Curry: I thought it was up there. 1843 01:45:47,859 --> 01:45:51,279 John C Dvorak: No, it's, well, I don't do the calculation in my 1844 01:45:51,279 --> 01:45:54,999 head, and I will tell you that it is probably, it's close to 1845 01:45:55,059 --> 01:45:55,359 3030, 1846 01:45:56,199 --> 01:45:59,979 Adam Curry: 25, to 30% and it's, it's almost no fee, 15 cents. 1847 01:45:59,979 --> 01:46:02,759 Processing for us. You can send them directly from your bank 1848 01:46:02,759 --> 01:46:05,879 account in the US, of course, and it's appreciated. I mean, 1849 01:46:05,879 --> 01:46:08,639 some of these processing fees are getting pretty high. 1850 01:46:09,660 --> 01:46:12,180 John C Dvorak: That's four or five, six bucks. Thanks. Biden, 1851 01:46:12,180 --> 01:46:16,140 no processing fees with a silver ingot No. 1852 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:21,560 Adam Curry: All right, so Ben, you will be up to Duke of San 1853 01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,820 Francisco. Thank you, sir. 1854 01:46:23,599 --> 01:46:26,719 John C Dvorak: Yeah, in fact, I he sent me a note about that 1855 01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:30,499 because I got confused who gave me the silver, and I was gonna 1856 01:46:30,499 --> 01:46:35,839 almost credit Steve with it. Oh no. Oh no, Steve did give me a 1857 01:46:35,839 --> 01:46:42,039 book, though, sir. Etima quive quivel, quivi. Quivel quievi, 1858 01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:49,479 queve eterna Laredo, Texas, eternas quievi in Laredo, he's 1859 01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:54,099 350 uh, Why does nobody talk about American Airlines and 1860 01:46:54,099 --> 01:46:58,059 their relationship to an immigration surge? We've talked 1861 01:46:58,059 --> 01:47:02,639 about it a lot, a lot. Not against it, but there's a 1862 01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:05,999 distinction in nationalities that benefit from the shadow 1863 01:47:05,999 --> 01:47:10,559 program versus people who travel with infants at times by foot 1864 01:47:10,559 --> 01:47:13,679 train horrific conditions. If we need to expand the labor force, 1865 01:47:14,099 --> 01:47:17,159 let's put it all on the table. Mexico's new president speaks 1866 01:47:17,159 --> 01:47:20,479 English fluently. Can we work together toward a future that 1867 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,899 actually makes sense. Why does our neighbor and trade partner 1868 01:47:23,899 --> 01:47:30,019 continue to have such a large wealth gap? 3050 bucks. Thank 1869 01:47:30,019 --> 01:47:32,239 you very much for that donation and message. 1870 01:47:32,779 --> 01:47:35,959 Adam Curry: Dr Don marata Cupertino, California, came to 1871 01:47:35,959 --> 01:47:41,739 the meetup. 333, dot 69 Dame Audra and I love giving and 1872 01:47:41,739 --> 01:47:45,519 receiving, value for value this. That's all that it is, giving, 1873 01:47:45,519 --> 01:47:49,239 receiving. Thank you. Beautiful beautiful note, beautiful 1874 01:47:49,239 --> 01:47:51,039 donation. Appreciate it. 1875 01:47:52,420 --> 01:47:54,820 John C Dvorak: I will mention that a lot of people came to the 1876 01:47:54,820 --> 01:47:59,080 meetup and they either handed off some money, they didn't have 1877 01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,680 the envelope with the note or anything, so they're not going 1878 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,320 to get any credit because I didn't, couldn't keep track of 1879 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,700 who they were, but everybody else is on the spreadsheet. So I 1880 01:48:09,060 --> 01:48:11,340 want to thank everybody for helping us out there in that 1881 01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:16,920 meetup. That was a good meetup, uh. TK, Gustafson in Wasilla, 1882 01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:23,780 Alaska, 333. 33 greetings, gents, uh. TK, Gustafson. 1883 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:29,420 Gustafson. Gustafson. Gustav. Gustafson, I've hit every show 1884 01:48:29,420 --> 01:48:32,120 since the first Rogan and thought it was time to bring my 1885 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,480 douchebaggery to an end. I think we can deduce him. 1886 01:48:37,100 --> 01:48:38,900 Unknown: You've been deduced 1887 01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:43,780 John C Dvorak: for the last month or so, y'all been 1888 01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,180 tiptoeing around the name I think you've been looking for 1889 01:48:46,180 --> 01:48:48,760 with Harris, and I just can't believe it hasn't come out yet. 1890 01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:55,000 I do believe the name you're looking for is kakala. I hope 1891 01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,600 this helps. Please deduce me, which we just did, and it's not 1892 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,700 too much trouble. Uh, hassle. Bugs, I like the bugs jingle and 1893 01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:05,640 Reverend Al of your choosing and a rubbilizer for jingles. 1894 01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:10,140 Keeping an eye on those pesky Ruskies with Sarah. 1895 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:15,660 Adam Curry: TK, yeah. TK, oh, wait, that's not the right one. 1896 01:49:17,279 --> 01:49:21,619 Unknown: Why is that? Hmm, bugs, maybe 1897 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:22,940 John C Dvorak: he wants ants. 1898 01:49:23,299 --> 01:49:27,619 Adam Curry: No, he wants bugs. But no, that's not it. Oh, here 1899 01:49:27,619 --> 01:49:32,179 it is. I got it there. Oh, I feel better 1900 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:43,780 Unknown: now. R E, s, p, i, C, 1901 01:49:44,679 --> 01:49:53,679 T, India. Hang out. Mike standby, 3333 33 barbaliser, 1902 01:49:53,679 --> 01:49:54,039 out. 1903 01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:59,919 Adam Curry: All right. Michael polling, San Francisco, Cal. 1904 01:49:59,999 --> 01:50:03,659 California, 333, dot, 33 from the Albany meetup. Albany 1905 01:50:03,659 --> 01:50:05,279 meetup, I don't see any note. 1906 01:50:06,540 --> 01:50:08,280 John C Dvorak: No, I don't think he had a note. It's just 1907 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,020 probably in an envelope. Okay, well, thank 1908 01:50:10,019 --> 01:50:11,339 Adam Curry: you very much. Appreciate it. I'm 1909 01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:14,640 John C Dvorak: guessing he has a note you can send in a future 1910 01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:19,020 date. Can in El Sobrante, California, three, three, 3.33. 1911 01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:22,220 They're John and Adam, my smoking hot wife, Jamie, and I 1912 01:50:22,220 --> 01:50:24,920 started listening to no agenda show after hearing Adam's first 1913 01:50:24,980 --> 01:50:28,340 appearance on the Rogan probably get some you have some late 1914 01:50:28,340 --> 01:50:32,780 bloomers. Yes, we do. From the old Rogan podcast from the 1915 01:50:32,780 --> 01:50:38,900 Austin studio. The Albany meetup was my first ever, and it was 1916 01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:42,220 great. Yeah, a fine group of friendly, outgoing and 1917 01:50:42,220 --> 01:50:44,980 intelligent listeners. I am looking forward to the next no 1918 01:50:44,980 --> 01:50:47,740 jingles. Next one's going to be at a restaurant so we can bring 1919 01:50:47,740 --> 01:50:50,200 in some people that have kids. They've moaned about this being 1920 01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:54,460 at a bar. So he's going to set it up at a restaurant so we can 1921 01:50:54,460 --> 01:50:58,420 see violet and see how she's grown, the trap baby from a 1922 01:50:58,960 --> 01:50:59,980 couple years back. 1923 01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:05,160 Adam Curry: So I was about to put Dr Don and Dame Audra 1924 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:09,180 together as executive producer, because of the 333 dot 69 but 1925 01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:13,440 what do we see here? Dame Audra comes in with her own donation 1926 01:51:13,740 --> 01:51:17,580 of $300.33 and says, Keep it up, gents also from the Albany 1927 01:51:17,580 --> 01:51:22,760 meetup. So together, they came in as top, top donors. Thank you 1928 01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:23,900 so much. It's beautiful. 1929 01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,360 John C Dvorak: Lawrence wolf in Oakland 300 he actually wrote a 1930 01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:33,140 note. He did the note thing. And I have it, and you can tell it's 1931 01:51:33,140 --> 01:51:34,880 a real because it's 1932 01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,180 Adam Curry: paper on paper. Uh, it's a little long. 1933 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:42,520 John C Dvorak: It's too long, so I'm going to just read the first 1934 01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:46,240 paragraph. I wish to thank you for your amygdala shrinking. 1935 01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:50,080 Media deconstruction. I have been listening to the best 1936 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:53,680 podcast in the Universe since early 2023 after listening to 1937 01:51:53,740 --> 01:51:58,840 Adam once again on the Joe Rogan podcast, another late bloomer. 1938 01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:02,940 This is, this is a classic brand of numbers. Thing 1939 01:52:02,939 --> 01:52:06,419 Adam Curry: today is now, I wish I will. I will add his second 1940 01:52:06,419 --> 01:52:09,059 paragraph. All I can say is, I wish I had known about you guys 1941 01:52:09,059 --> 01:52:12,419 during the scam demic as it was, I had to survive on Twitter, 1942 01:52:12,419 --> 01:52:15,059 verse ramblings, and was able to get through it without the jab. 1943 01:52:15,299 --> 01:52:17,579 It would have been better with you and the connection that you 1944 01:52:17,579 --> 01:52:20,899 get from the meetups. Well, we're going through all kinds of 1945 01:52:20,899 --> 01:52:25,579 dystopia right now. In fact, he wants to be knighted today as 1946 01:52:25,579 --> 01:52:30,379 Sir Lawrence of dystopia, and wants Malbec and Mallow Mars at 1947 01:52:30,379 --> 01:52:33,739 the round table. And also wants a biscuit for his birthday. They 1948 01:52:33,739 --> 01:52:36,979 always give me a biscuit on my birthday, which he celebrated a 1949 01:52:36,979 --> 01:52:41,619 day after John's 38th wedding anniversary. He turned 20 a day 1950 01:52:41,619 --> 01:52:47,079 after they were wed so he's 58 then I guess thanks again. May 1951 01:52:47,079 --> 01:52:51,279 you never find an exit strategy. Adios, mofos, Lawrence F Wolf, 1952 01:52:51,519 --> 01:52:56,979 kilo, Oscar six, Echo, Juliet, Echo, well. 7373 kilo, five, 1953 01:52:56,979 --> 01:52:58,059 alpha, Charlie. Charlie, 1954 01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,340 John C Dvorak: uh, okay. I think onward to Sir 1955 01:53:02,340 --> 01:53:05,340 Adam Curry: Robert Montoya, Black Knight of Pleasant Hill, 1956 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,100 in Pleasant Hill, California, from the Albany meetup, $300 1957 01:53:08,700 --> 01:53:09,600 Thank you, Sir Robert. 1958 01:53:11,939 --> 01:53:18,179 John C Dvorak: Uh, onward to Ron Norin in Holland, in the town. 1959 01:53:18,179 --> 01:53:19,919 It looks like Luton. 1960 01:53:19,979 --> 01:53:27,859 Adam Curry: Well, it's sir Ron Norton. Ron in floating, in 1961 01:53:27,859 --> 01:53:35,539 floating. I'll read it so you can do the next one. A small 1962 01:53:35,539 --> 01:53:38,059 donation, returning some treasure. After all the value 1963 01:53:38,059 --> 01:53:40,899 received. Keep up the great work, boys, that's how it works. 1964 01:53:41,199 --> 01:53:43,839 Whatever, whatever you get out of the show, no matter what the 1965 01:53:43,839 --> 01:53:46,419 value is, to send it back, we can't determine your size of 1966 01:53:46,419 --> 01:53:50,199 your pocketbook. In this case, $200 is perfect for Sir Ron 1967 01:53:50,199 --> 01:53:54,099 Norton. And he says, No jingles, no karma. Warm regard, sir Ron 1968 01:53:54,099 --> 01:53:56,259 Norton. And thank you very much. 1969 01:53:56,440 --> 01:53:58,420 John C Dvorak: Linda lupatkin, there she is, Lakewood, 1970 01:53:58,420 --> 01:54:01,080 Colorado. That's why he's having me read it, because I seem to be 1971 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:04,020 the one that gets this every time, and because you know why 1972 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:07,380 she asked for jobs karma every time. And then she mentions your 1973 01:54:07,380 --> 01:54:10,740 premium content is the best, because all the contents 1974 01:54:10,740 --> 01:54:15,720 premium, speaking of premium content, she goes on Go to Image 1975 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,660 makers. Inc.com, for all your executive resume and job search 1976 01:54:18,660 --> 01:54:22,220 needs as image makers. Inc, with a K and work with Linda Lou 1977 01:54:22,220 --> 01:54:24,200 Duchess of jobs, and writer of resumes, 1978 01:54:24,199 --> 01:54:29,359 Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's go for 1979 01:54:31,279 --> 01:54:36,499 Adam Curry: jobs. And Sir seven up partridge and Dame wind 1980 01:54:36,499 --> 01:54:39,679 chimes partridge. We're also at the Albany meetup, and they 1981 01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:42,519 kicked in $200 Associate Executive producers for them. 1982 01:54:42,519 --> 01:54:43,779 Thank you. Thank you both. 1983 01:54:45,399 --> 01:54:49,119 John C Dvorak: And so John Siebert in Auburn came down from 1984 01:54:49,119 --> 01:54:51,579 Auburn to go to the Albany meetup, and he came in with 200 1985 01:54:51,879 --> 01:54:55,239 bucks too. Very nice. Craig, thanks for the best podcast in 1986 01:54:55,239 --> 01:54:56,259 university rights. 1987 01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,440 Adam Curry: Craig Clifford closes us out as the final 1988 01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,880 associate. Executive producer from Uxbridge, Ontario, $200 1989 01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,120 Canadian bucks, I don't know. Doesn't matter. We count them 1990 01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:10,320 equal, because we're not a holes Adam and John Craig Clifford 1991 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,560 from communist Canada. Here, it's been some time since my 1992 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:17,040 last donation on August the 18th. It'll be my 63rd trip 1993 01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,240 around the sun. This donation is a switcheroo to credit our 1994 01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:25,220 beloved grand sir grandson, Remy Clifford. Remy Remy. What do you 1995 01:55:25,220 --> 01:55:28,640 think? Remy Remy Remy Remy Clifford. Let me just switch a 1996 01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,700 rue that Remy Clifford, who will be 10 months old. Remy won't 1997 01:55:31,700 --> 01:55:34,760 care how I pronounce it. 10 months old on the 23rd of 1998 01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,400 August, stardom, early on his way to knighthood. Yes, we think 1999 01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:41,260 this is good for all kids. Also, I've been neglecting to claim my 2000 01:55:41,260 --> 01:55:44,560 knighthood, dating back to show 1500 he sent his accounting. 2001 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,560 Could I please be titled sir Craig, Knight of the rolling 2002 01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,680 hills of Uxbridge? Of course, at the round table, a bottle of 2003 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:56,320 2019 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon. Is that any good? The Caymus? 2004 01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:56,500 Oh, 2005 01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,720 John C Dvorak: yeah, it would be better. Yeah, it is good. But 2006 01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,680 I'd say the 2012 and 2013 would be better, by the way, this I 2007 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,220 Adam Curry: didn't clip it, but ABC this weekend did a whole 2008 01:56:08,220 --> 01:56:13,980 special on wine country of America and highlighted the 2009 01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:17,100 Texas Hill Country right here, right in the back backyard, as 2010 01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:20,180 one of the up and coming fantastic wine regions of 2011 01:56:20,180 --> 01:56:25,340 America. Yeah, you laugh. All you want a rib steak cooked 2012 01:56:25,340 --> 01:56:28,460 medium rare as well, and garlic mashed potatoes. Thank you for 2013 01:56:28,460 --> 01:56:30,980 your courage. If you could please play pigs in human 2014 01:56:30,980 --> 01:56:33,440 clothing, that'd be great. Kind Regards from Craig, fear is 2015 01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:40,160 Unknown: freedom. Subjugation is liberation. Contradiction. 2016 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:41,060 Those are the facts 2017 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:44,320 of this. You will all surrender to them. 2018 01:56:44,319 --> 01:56:46,059 You pigs in human 2019 01:56:48,939 --> 01:56:51,519 Adam Curry: clothing. Ah, their favorite pigs in human clothing. 2020 01:56:51,639 --> 01:56:55,239 That's right. Vote for Kamala. And you'll hear that a lot. 2021 01:56:55,899 --> 01:56:59,379 You'll hear it a lot every just go to school, go to go to your 2022 01:56:59,379 --> 01:57:02,279 government, shul, everything will be fine. Thank you, Shula, 2023 01:57:02,339 --> 01:57:04,919 thank you to all these executive and Associate Executive 2024 01:57:04,979 --> 01:57:08,279 producers. We appreciate every single value donation that you 2025 01:57:08,279 --> 01:57:12,119 send to us. You can go to no agenda donations.com we will 2026 01:57:12,119 --> 01:57:15,839 read out everybody's name and their amount. 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You know, it's not 2033 01:57:38,599 --> 01:57:41,439 like it's not like Patreon, we're not going to automatically 2034 01:57:41,439 --> 01:57:43,839 deduct anything from you that you don't want you determine 2035 01:57:43,839 --> 01:57:46,839 when and how much, and you can go to no agenda donations.com. 2036 01:57:47,259 --> 01:57:49,539 For doing that, and thank you again for supporting us for 2037 01:57:49,539 --> 01:57:54,039 Episode 1687 of the no agenda show, our 2038 01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:56,260 Unknown: formula is this, we go 2039 01:57:57,279 --> 01:57:58,539 out, we hit people in the mouth. You 2040 01:58:11,699 --> 01:58:17,159 Adam Curry: I wanted to do a little presentation, because 2041 01:58:17,159 --> 01:58:22,039 I've seen this guy before. Cali means he was, do you remember 2042 01:58:22,039 --> 01:58:30,019 when RFK Jr announced his horrible vice president pick the 2043 01:58:30,019 --> 01:58:34,039 socialite? Oh, right, the woman and this guy. And I think I 2044 01:58:34,039 --> 01:58:36,739 played clips from then, Callie means, and he used to be a 2045 01:58:36,739 --> 01:58:42,459 lobbyist in in DC. And his sister, I forget what her name 2046 01:58:42,459 --> 01:58:49,239 is. She was a doctor. I think she was a surgeon. And she quit 2047 01:58:49,299 --> 01:58:56,079 the medical industry in disgust, in true disgust over basically 2048 01:58:56,079 --> 01:59:00,479 she was being educated to diagnose, prescribe, that was 2049 01:59:00,479 --> 01:59:04,859 it, and all the things that she was told to do to people she 2050 01:59:04,859 --> 01:59:08,519 might have been an ear, nose, throat surgeon, she said they 2051 01:59:08,519 --> 01:59:11,459 really didn't help anybody. And the two of them got together, 2052 01:59:11,519 --> 01:59:16,679 and they actually wrote a book about the food industry and how 2053 01:59:16,679 --> 01:59:21,499 they are that work together with the healthcare industry, and 2054 01:59:21,799 --> 01:59:24,979 they were on Tucker show. And I have to say, Tucker has done a 2055 01:59:24,979 --> 01:59:29,899 good job of emulating Rogan. He's got the big the big table. 2056 01:59:30,079 --> 01:59:33,079 He's got the same mics, you know, he's got one person on 2057 01:59:33,079 --> 01:59:36,199 this one side, one person on the other side. He has a different 2058 01:59:36,199 --> 01:59:41,379 style. What do you think of Tucker as his his style. 2059 01:59:43,359 --> 01:59:46,899 John C Dvorak: Well, Tucker has an aghast style. 2060 01:59:46,959 --> 01:59:47,859 Unknown: Aghast, 2061 01:59:48,339 --> 01:59:53,259 John C Dvorak: yeah, he's aghast. A, G, H, A, S, T, I 2062 01:59:53,259 --> 01:59:53,979 think is, I 2063 01:59:53,980 --> 01:59:55,000 Adam Curry: think it's genuine. 2064 01:59:55,900 --> 01:59:58,600 John C Dvorak: I'm not saying it's not genuine. I'm just 2065 01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:03,180 saying he's aghast. And it's and to the point where it's almost a 2066 02:00:03,180 --> 02:00:06,360 parody of itself. He's, you know, the mouth is slightly 2067 02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:10,620 open. It's like, I can't believe what I'm hearing, as opposed 2068 02:00:10,620 --> 02:00:12,720 Rogan's a little more aggressive. He's more like a 2069 02:00:12,780 --> 02:00:16,620 like a UFC fighter. He's actually a different style of 2070 02:00:16,620 --> 02:00:19,620 interviewer, to say the least. And he's not aghast, please, 2071 02:00:19,620 --> 02:00:20,720 necessarily. They're 2072 02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,460 Adam Curry: both conversationalists more than 2073 02:00:22,460 --> 02:00:27,380 interviewers. I wanted to click. He had Peter Thiel on impossible 2074 02:00:27,380 --> 02:00:28,820 to clip. I'll do Peter Thiel. 2075 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,680 John C Dvorak: No, Peter Thiel is impossible to clip. I saw 2076 02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:38,720 that He's worse than musk. It must be some milieu. Yeah, 2077 02:00:38,719 --> 02:00:41,979 Adam Curry: it's the difficult talk. It's a difficult talking 2078 02:00:41,979 --> 02:00:51,459 California tech people. Let me steel man, that for you. Steel 2079 02:00:51,459 --> 02:00:55,299 man, what is this? When did this become a thing? Let me steel 2080 02:00:55,299 --> 02:00:56,259 man, that for you? 2081 02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:01,860 John C Dvorak: No, it's another new one. It's quite irritating. 2082 02:01:02,220 --> 02:01:04,260 Oh, you mean, you were all irritating. 2083 02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,000 Adam Curry: So Peter, how much you've been spying on everybody 2084 02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:17,340 with your Palantir outfit. So what was most interesting and 2085 02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:22,220 is, oh, now I'm starting to sound like him is Callie's 2086 02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:26,360 experience as a lobbyist in Washington, DC, and he starts 2087 02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:32,060 off with a history of food, which I guess, if I think about 2088 02:01:32,060 --> 02:01:34,820 it, yeah, I could have known, but no one has ever said it 2089 02:01:34,820 --> 02:01:36,980 quite this. Clearly, I wanted 2090 02:01:36,980 --> 02:01:40,960 Unknown: to be contributing to politics from an early age, and 2091 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,920 went to Stanford to go back into politics, studied economics, 2092 02:01:44,980 --> 02:01:48,700 political science, went straight back to campaigns after school. 2093 02:01:49,300 --> 02:01:52,240 What I learned quickly is that in campaigns over you work for 2094 02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:55,120 the biggest spenders in DC, and I found myself across the desks 2095 02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:57,820 from food industry in the farm industry, the farm industry 2096 02:01:57,820 --> 02:02:00,960 spends five times more in DC than the oil industry, by far 2097 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:03,900 the biggest spender bipartisan. You're working for Pharma. But 2098 02:02:03,900 --> 02:02:08,700 starting with food, I learned early on the food industry and 2099 02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:11,100 the processed food industry was created by the cigarette 2100 02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:13,500 industry. And I think this is very telling. It's something I 2101 02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:17,580 learned. So in the 1990s the two largest food companies in the 2102 02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:22,580 world were RJ Reynolds and Philip Morris. What happened is, 2103 02:02:22,580 --> 02:02:25,040 when the surgeons enter way too late in the 1980s said 2104 02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,140 cigarettes were maybe problematic. These were some of 2105 02:02:27,140 --> 02:02:29,540 the largest companies in the world with the largest cash 2106 02:02:29,540 --> 02:02:31,940 piles of any company in the world. So they, what they did is 2107 02:02:31,940 --> 02:02:34,700 they used their cash piles to buy food companies. You know, we 2108 02:02:34,700 --> 02:02:37,340 think about the 80s as the Wall Street era, M and A. You know, a 2109 02:02:37,340 --> 02:02:40,400 lot of deals, the two biggest M and A deals up until 1990 in 2110 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:42,820 world history were cigarette companies buying food companies. 2111 02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:47,500 So you had, in the 90s, these two cigarette companies, very 2112 02:02:47,500 --> 02:02:50,800 strategically, do two things. They shifted their 1000s of 2113 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:53,560 scientists who were experts at making cigarettes addictive to 2114 02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:57,880 the food department. So we had the rise of ultra processed 2115 02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:01,620 food, where our food now it's a science experiment. 2116 02:03:02,279 --> 02:03:06,539 Adam Curry: I of course it makes sense. RJR, Nabisco, I never 2117 02:03:06,539 --> 02:03:09,419 realized that that it was actually the cigarette guys who 2118 02:03:09,419 --> 02:03:12,179 went, Oh, okay, we can't do that. We'll do this. Have you 2119 02:03:12,179 --> 02:03:13,319 ever thought about it that way? 2120 02:03:14,099 --> 02:03:15,779 John C Dvorak: No, and I wouldn't think about it that way 2121 02:03:15,779 --> 02:03:20,159 after listening to this guy blather on, these companies 2122 02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:22,579 don't operate that way. It makes it sound like a giant 2123 02:03:22,579 --> 02:03:27,799 conspiracy. It's not when RJR button to say they own Nabisco 2124 02:03:27,799 --> 02:03:30,739 that they all of a sudden change the way Shredded Wheat is 2125 02:03:30,739 --> 02:03:34,639 manufactured because of some tobacco idea. I'm not buying 2126 02:03:34,639 --> 02:03:36,679 this guy. I don't like him. I don't like the way he talks. I 2127 02:03:36,679 --> 02:03:37,639 don't like his patter. 2128 02:03:38,660 --> 02:03:41,800 Adam Curry: I'm hearing a buzz in the microphone at Tucker's 2129 02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:46,120 not here, Tucker's place. Well, now, now I'm after that 2130 02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:50,620 outburst. I'm apprehensive to play anymore. I don't think I 2131 02:03:50,620 --> 02:03:51,340 want to. 2132 02:03:51,339 --> 02:03:53,859 John C Dvorak: Well, the problem is, I'm hearing a guy who is, 2133 02:03:53,859 --> 02:03:57,159 like, seeing, you know, ghosts in the closet kind of thing. 2134 02:03:57,159 --> 02:04:00,039 Adam Curry: Well, he was there. He was a lobbyist, yeah. Well, 2135 02:04:00,519 --> 02:04:01,199 I'm sure that 2136 02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:03,540 John C Dvorak: the food industry does have a lot of lobbyists and 2137 02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:06,900 and they're probably not doing us any favors, generally 2138 02:04:06,900 --> 02:04:10,020 speaking, but it's not as though this idea of processed food just 2139 02:04:10,020 --> 02:04:12,480 came along because of tobacco companies, 2140 02:04:12,539 --> 02:04:17,819 Adam Curry: no, but they started lobbying big with their with 2141 02:04:17,819 --> 02:04:19,619 their powerful cash lobby. 2142 02:04:20,220 --> 02:04:22,460 John C Dvorak: And then the 2143 02:04:22,460 --> 02:04:25,040 Unknown: second thing they did is they shifted their lobbying. 2144 02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:27,320 So the cigarette industry, of course, was the biggest, you 2145 02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,260 know, lobbying spenders, and very had a good playbook. They 2146 02:04:30,260 --> 02:04:32,720 shifted their playbook on lobbying and rigging 2147 02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:35,360 institutions of trust to food. So they created the food 2148 02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:39,020 pyramid. So the cigarette industry, through the food and 2149 02:04:39,020 --> 02:04:44,020 companies they bought, paid off the FDA, the USDA Harvard to 2150 02:04:44,020 --> 02:04:47,080 create reports saying sugars and cos obesity, and they lobbied 2151 02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:49,780 for the food pyramid in the 1990s we all remember, which 2152 02:04:49,780 --> 02:04:52,660 said, you know, animal based fats or bad carbs are good. 2153 02:04:52,660 --> 02:04:55,060 Remember, carbs and sugar were basically the base of the 2154 02:04:55,060 --> 02:04:57,760 pyramid. So the American diet because of that, because we 2155 02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:02,100 trust our medical institutions would stay in. Oh, we shifted 2156 02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:06,000 our diet significantly to ultra processed food. It was very 2157 02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,820 intentional. The food pyramid that was a ultra processed food 2158 02:05:08,820 --> 02:05:13,020 marketing document that carbs were fine, Sugar was fine, and 2159 02:05:13,020 --> 02:05:16,620 that shifted. And you look at dietary patterns today, kids, a 2160 02:05:16,620 --> 02:05:20,600 child diet is 70% Ultra processed food. Now, what does 2161 02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:25,760 that mean? Those are literally foods invented by the cigarette 2162 02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,780 industry to addict kids. You know, obviously we've got sugar, 2163 02:05:29,780 --> 02:05:32,240 but there's 1000s of different ingredients and science 2164 02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:35,480 concoctions that scientists work in a lab to make it more 2165 02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,940 palatable, to make it more addictive. No, you 2166 02:05:37,940 --> 02:05:39,800 Adam Curry: don't believe that, so I might as well stop. 2167 02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:42,100 John C Dvorak: No, I don't. And the food pyramid, which first 2168 02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:47,800 appeared in 1972 came out of Scandinavia, had these same 2169 02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:51,040 issues with the carbs being too, too high. Of course, in 2170 02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:55,720 Scandinavia probably need more carbs. No, I'm not. No, I don't 2171 02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:59,260 think they're. They're trying to make food more addictive. You 2172 02:05:59,260 --> 02:06:01,740 don't? I think there's, I think there are issues with sugar, 2173 02:06:01,740 --> 02:06:05,640 there's issue with with there's issues with the way wheats 2174 02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:09,420 processed and aged. There's all kinds of issues. But he makes it 2175 02:06:09,420 --> 02:06:12,960 sound like it's some sort of a, you know, all because of to the 2176 02:06:13,500 --> 02:06:17,220 tobacco industry is the only people behind it all some sort 2177 02:06:17,220 --> 02:06:19,200 of a scheme, because they knew how to addict people to 2178 02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,680 cigarettes. They figured they can do the same thing with food. 2179 02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,700 This has been going on a lot longer than they when they start 2180 02:06:25,700 --> 02:06:30,080 buying up food companies. This did not start in 1990 2181 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:35,000 Adam Curry: I'll agree with you on that. Well, I'll just, I'll 2182 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:38,720 just skip to the last bit. Then the overall point, and that's 2183 02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:43,780 why he's there with his sister, is that you often see pharma and 2184 02:06:43,780 --> 02:06:47,740 food, and this is what we see on television, pharma and food 2185 02:06:47,740 --> 02:06:53,620 lobbying together. And that's why, if you look at television, 2186 02:06:53,620 --> 02:06:57,160 you get fast food, fast food, fast food, diabetes drug, 2187 02:06:57,160 --> 02:07:04,620 diabetes drug, ozempic heart drug. I mean, I think there's 2188 02:07:04,620 --> 02:07:08,520 something to it that there that this is what he calls the he has 2189 02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:11,760 a name for it, the criminal Devil's bargain. Yeah, the 2190 02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,660 criminal Devil's bargain is what he calls it, is that it's highly 2191 02:07:15,660 --> 02:07:15,900 tied 2192 02:07:15,900 --> 02:07:18,060 Unknown: to the healthcare industry. And as Casey said, the 2193 02:07:18,060 --> 02:07:21,020 fastest growing industry in America right now isn't AI. It's 2194 02:07:21,020 --> 02:07:24,800 not tech, it's healthcare. It's the largest and fastest growing 2195 02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:28,340 industry, and just as a statement of economic fact, the 2196 02:07:28,340 --> 02:07:33,380 best thing for that industry is a child getting sick. When a 2197 02:07:33,380 --> 02:07:36,260 child gets sick, or any American gets sick with a chronic 2198 02:07:36,260 --> 02:07:39,440 condition, with diabetes, obesity, kidney disease, heart 2199 02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:42,880 disease, whatever, they go on a lifetime medication, they go on 2200 02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:45,280 the Metformin, they go on the statin, they have lifetime 2201 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:48,820 treatments, and they keep racking up more comorbidities. 2202 02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,400 If you're diabetic, you have an average of four other 2203 02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:54,880 comorbidities. So you keep racking up, but you don't die. 2204 02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:58,540 You just suffer. You inevitably get infertility, depression, you 2205 02:07:58,540 --> 02:08:04,020 start racking them up. So that's very good for the medical system 2206 02:08:04,260 --> 02:08:06,900 to have these chronic conditions that need to be managed. Just 2207 02:08:06,900 --> 02:08:09,960 from a pure economic standpoint, that's how the system's set up. 2208 02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,960 The criminal part, the devil's bargain, is that the healthcare 2209 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,600 system you'd expect to be speaking out about why we're 2210 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,000 getting so sick. They're silent enough, they're actually 2211 02:08:18,060 --> 02:08:21,080 complicit. Working for Coke, I helped steer money to the 2212 02:08:21,380 --> 02:08:24,380 American Coca Cola. Yeah, working for Coca Cola, they 2213 02:08:24,500 --> 02:08:27,200 actually pay money to the American Diabetes Association. 2214 02:08:28,220 --> 02:08:28,580 Anyway. I 2215 02:08:29,660 --> 02:08:31,880 Adam Curry: think it's just good to hear it from time to time, 2216 02:08:32,540 --> 02:08:36,080 we're not eating real food, you and I don't have that issue. We 2217 02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,600 eat good food. A lot of people don't, 2218 02:08:39,739 --> 02:08:40,839 John C Dvorak: and most people don't, 2219 02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:43,000 Adam Curry: particularly in America, although I've seen it, 2220 02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:46,840 John C Dvorak: but I would say again, what I brought up earlier 2221 02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:50,200 that the physician, it was it felony to accept money, a direct 2222 02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:53,920 payments for prescribing drugs. Yes, I think that would have a 2223 02:08:53,980 --> 02:08:57,340 bigger impact than when he's, you know, him. And is this a 2224 02:08:57,340 --> 02:09:00,420 conspiracy kind of a thing that? Well, of course, and he brought 2225 02:09:00,420 --> 02:09:03,960 tobacco in as you know, as the tobacco guys are just these evil 2226 02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:08,580 villains that are finding ways to addict people to poison the 2227 02:09:08,700 --> 02:09:12,120 food supply in this country is toxic. There's no question about 2228 02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:12,660 it. You go 2229 02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,600 Adam Curry: more seed oils, sludge. 2230 02:09:18,239 --> 02:09:22,339 John C Dvorak: Yeah. All right, that's all. That's all well, 2231 02:09:22,339 --> 02:09:24,979 then let's play as something a little lighter. I've got light 2232 02:09:25,699 --> 02:09:27,259 to lighten things up. I'm 2233 02:09:27,260 --> 02:09:29,240 Adam Curry: gonna pull it no matter what you know, I'm gonna 2234 02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:31,340 do that to you. Now this 2235 02:09:31,340 --> 02:09:35,900 John C Dvorak: is going to be a little discussion on this NPR. 2236 02:09:35,900 --> 02:09:38,600 So important to discuss brat summer. 2237 02:09:40,699 --> 02:09:42,879 Adam Curry: I thought that already came and went. Brat 2238 02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,780 John C Dvorak: summer is morphing into something new. Oh, 2239 02:09:46,780 --> 02:09:47,620 brat summer 2240 02:09:47,620 --> 02:09:50,740 Unknown: this viral trend that took its name from the latest 2241 02:09:50,740 --> 02:09:55,180 Charlie XCX album titled brat. But as summer starts to wind 2242 02:09:55,180 --> 02:09:57,880 down, we're also seeing a new trend start to emerge on social 2243 02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:01,560 media here to tell us about it is. Is USA Today. Health and 2244 02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:04,800 wellness reporter Charles trepone, wait, okay, stop 2245 02:10:04,799 --> 02:10:05,519 John C Dvorak: the clip. This 2246 02:10:05,519 --> 02:10:07,199 Adam Curry: isn't just a Kamala commercial. 2247 02:10:08,220 --> 02:10:11,940 John C Dvorak: No, no. You think it would be. I mean, I have 2248 02:10:11,940 --> 02:10:15,660 undertones in the commercial by anti Trump stuff, but this is 2249 02:10:15,660 --> 02:10:20,660 the health and wellness reporter for USA Today. Okay? And he's 2250 02:10:20,660 --> 02:10:25,340 talking about breath. This is a this is National Public Radio, 2251 02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:29,720 their treasure with the most inane conversation. I'm going to 2252 02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:35,000 say before you do the most inane stupid conversation, plugging 2253 02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:38,600 this record and and talking about Brad summer that nobody 2254 02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:43,300 cares about except some kids out and on tick tock. I found this 2255 02:10:43,300 --> 02:10:47,620 to be the most offensive series. This is two parter. It's 2256 02:10:47,620 --> 02:10:48,760 offensive to me. You're 2257 02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:51,760 Adam Curry: gonna offend us with this offensive nonsense. I think 2258 02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:53,800 John C Dvorak: people should be aware that this is this sort of 2259 02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:59,440 thing. Is what the national public treasure is plays on the 2260 02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:00,100 weekends. 2261 02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:02,940 Unknown: Charles, welcome to all things considered, hi. Thank 2262 02:11:02,939 --> 02:11:06,839 you so much for having me worth it already. 2263 02:11:08,220 --> 02:11:09,660 Adam Curry: What was that? 2264 02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:13,140 John C Dvorak: Oh, I did sweeten it a bit. Oh, okay, I'll 2265 02:11:13,140 --> 02:11:15,720 Unknown: shut up. Charles trepone, Charles, welcome to all 2266 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:17,340 things considered, hi. Thank 2267 02:11:17,340 --> 02:11:18,480 you so much for having me. 2268 02:11:18,479 --> 02:11:19,619 Thank you 2269 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:23,900 for being here. And First things first, for anyone who missed 2270 02:11:23,900 --> 02:11:27,020 brat summer, can you just tell us what was this all about? 2271 02:11:27,140 --> 02:11:31,820 So having a brat summer basically means embracing chaos, 2272 02:11:31,820 --> 02:11:35,240 embracing your messy side, embracing your wild side. It's 2273 02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:39,560 about clubbing, partying. When Charlie XCX sort of described 2274 02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:43,480 what a brat means to her. She said that it can include luxury. 2275 02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:46,840 It can include trashiness. There's no one right way to be a 2276 02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:50,200 brat, as long as you're sort of living your life and you just 2277 02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:52,360 don't care what other people think. Okay, 2278 02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:55,840 so this meme has gotten a lot of mileage this summer, but we're 2279 02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:59,320 even starting to see kind of a new trend. Challenge, brat 2280 02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:03,000 summers throne. Can you tell us about what this thing demure 2281 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,280 fall is all about? Yes. 2282 02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:10,260 So in response to brat, there is a new trend afoot called being 2283 02:12:10,260 --> 02:12:12,900 demure. People online are declaring it demure 2284 02:12:12,899 --> 02:12:15,959 fall. So pretty, pretty different vibes. 2285 02:12:16,020 --> 02:12:19,800 Yes, completely different vibes. It's brother. I'd say demure is 2286 02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:22,760 almost embracing like a quiet confidence. It's going through 2287 02:12:22,760 --> 02:12:26,540 your life with calmness, with gentility, with consideration 2288 02:12:26,540 --> 02:12:29,120 for others. It's not making waves. It's not drawing 2289 02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:32,480 attention to yourself, and in a way that not drawing attention 2290 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:36,440 to yourself is the power and being demure. A lot of it is 2291 02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:40,240 sort of the very basics of just living your day to day life. But 2292 02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:45,160 it casts it in a more graceful, kind of elegant mindset and 2293 02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:46,420 attitude, basically. 2294 02:12:46,479 --> 02:12:47,559 Oh, 2295 02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:51,280 Adam Curry: so I know about this. You know, we still have 2296 02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:55,240 the millennial from Brooklyn staying with us. Yeah, 2297 02:12:55,299 --> 02:12:57,039 John C Dvorak: okay, why don't you give us a little 2298 02:12:57,039 --> 02:13:00,339 enlightenment here? Because I found this to be for one thing, 2299 02:13:00,339 --> 02:13:06,359 this extremely, maybe not gay health and wellness reporter 2300 02:13:06,359 --> 02:13:09,839 from USA Today to be like, What? What has this got to do with 2301 02:13:09,839 --> 02:13:15,419 anything, especially your job? But he's, I guess, a social I 2302 02:13:15,419 --> 02:13:16,259 don't know. No, 2303 02:13:16,260 --> 02:13:21,440 Adam Curry: that's a big part of it. This is the the the American 2304 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:27,020 communism has resulted in a complete withdrawal from 2305 02:13:27,020 --> 02:13:31,520 society. In other words, we're just going to all get blue 2306 02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:36,860 collar jobs, work at bars, work in restaurants, live on tips. Go 2307 02:13:36,860 --> 02:13:40,520 Trump, no tax on Oh, go Kamala, no tax. What doesn't matter. 2308 02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:43,060 We're not going to vote. We're only going to take care of our 2309 02:13:43,060 --> 02:13:47,620 own community. We barter, we live a quiet life, we smoke 2310 02:13:47,620 --> 02:13:52,840 weed, we just chill. And yes, I'm telling you, and have and we 2311 02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:57,460 have no actual care about our future. They have completely 2312 02:13:57,460 --> 02:14:01,860 withdraw. Yes, that is the brat summer. Yes, that is exactly 2313 02:14:01,860 --> 02:14:07,140 what it is. It is our communism is a little different because it 2314 02:14:07,140 --> 02:14:12,420 has seed oils, and we just don't care. That's what it's become. 2315 02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:15,780 They are. We don't, we don't look at Twitter anymore. We 2316 02:14:15,780 --> 02:14:18,720 don't, you know, we do Doom scroll on tick tock for the 2317 02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:22,640 last, for the dogs, for the dancing, completely withdrawn 2318 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:28,880 from, uh, economic future, political future. Don't want to 2319 02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:33,500 have kids. That's, that's what, I think this is an accurate 2320 02:14:33,500 --> 02:14:34,160 report. 2321 02:14:36,620 --> 02:14:37,940 John C Dvorak: You're making me sick. 2322 02:14:38,059 --> 02:14:41,859 Unknown: So these are both kind of delightful in very opposite 2323 02:14:41,859 --> 02:14:47,259 ways. Right? Like Brad is, yes, childish and immature, demure is 2324 02:14:47,379 --> 02:14:51,099 poised and grown up, but both of these memes are sort of taking 2325 02:14:51,099 --> 02:14:54,639 up space in the online hive mind. What do you make of that, 2326 02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:57,640 even though they're both very opposite, I think they're kind 2327 02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:01,920 of reacting to the same sort of theme. Feeling in the culture 2328 02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:05,460 that people are experiencing this year. I think people in 2329 02:15:05,460 --> 02:15:09,300 general are just feeling a lot of chaos. And what's interesting 2330 02:15:09,300 --> 02:15:12,480 to me about brat and demure is that both of them are sort of 2331 02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:15,900 different ways of coping or moving through chaos and 2332 02:15:15,900 --> 02:15:19,860 uncertainty. Brat is embracing it, fully embracing the mess, 2333 02:15:19,860 --> 02:15:24,260 embracing the wildness and then demure. In a way, it's like a 2334 02:15:24,260 --> 02:15:27,740 more calming way of moving through life. It's really sort 2335 02:15:27,740 --> 02:15:32,720 of, I think, tuning out the big noise and just focusing on the 2336 02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:33,800 small things. 2337 02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:38,540 So this raises an important question on the spectrum of brat 2338 02:15:38,660 --> 02:15:41,200 to demure. Where are you right now? 2339 02:15:41,619 --> 02:15:48,219 Oh, my gosh. I go up and down. I think I'm ready for demure fall, 2340 02:15:48,279 --> 02:15:51,879 but I think you have to go through a brat era before you 2341 02:15:51,879 --> 02:15:55,899 can truly appreciate demure. Oh, okay, 2342 02:15:56,260 --> 02:15:56,860 I love it. 2343 02:15:57,039 --> 02:15:58,539 Yes. What about you? Adrian, 2344 02:15:58,600 --> 02:15:59,320 oh, man. 2345 02:15:59,319 --> 02:16:02,039 I mean, it depends on how much sleep I've gotten. 2346 02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:04,800 Listen eight hours of sleep a night is very demure. 2347 02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:08,520 Well, I think we have our answer. I've been speaking with 2348 02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:11,700 USA Today health and wellness reporter Charles trepany, 2349 02:16:11,940 --> 02:16:13,260 Charles, thanks again. 2350 02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:14,460 Thank you, 2351 02:16:19,859 --> 02:16:21,859 elitist. Voices of America. 2352 02:16:22,819 --> 02:16:23,899 This is NPR, 2353 02:16:24,499 --> 02:16:25,699 Adam Curry: but I think I described it 2354 02:16:25,699 --> 02:16:28,819 John C Dvorak: perfectly. Yeah, you might be right onto 2355 02:16:28,819 --> 02:16:31,579 something. It's beyond me. That's for 2356 02:16:31,580 --> 02:16:34,040 Adam Curry: sure. Well, that's not our producers, that's not 2357 02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:39,440 our trolls. Don't think so at all. Okay, I have a series of 2358 02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:44,860 very quick clips, very quick clips and a clip Blitz, ooh, 2359 02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:50,620 well, I don't know if I can do it is kind of a clip Blitz, but 2360 02:16:50,620 --> 02:16:54,640 I won't be able to as too many as too many clips for me to it's 2361 02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:57,520 literally like 10 seconds, 12 seconds, eight seconds, six 2362 02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:04,380 seconds, this. This pissed me off. Because, what? Well, I was 2363 02:17:04,380 --> 02:17:05,220 pissed off. 2364 02:17:05,339 --> 02:17:07,199 John C Dvorak: You got irked. Now, I 2365 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:09,600 Adam Curry: was pissed off on the last show, okay, on the last 2366 02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:13,260 show, you played a Ukraine clip, and they talked about this, you 2367 02:17:13,260 --> 02:17:20,160 know, one quarter acre that Ukraine had, uh, invaded Russia, 2368 02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:21,680 and it was 1000 2369 02:17:24,020 --> 02:17:28,100 John C Dvorak: meters square kilometers, 2370 02:17:28,159 --> 02:17:31,939 Adam Curry: kilometers. And I said, I heard him talk about 2371 02:17:31,939 --> 02:17:35,719 1000 and you said, No, and I'm not saying that you weren't 2372 02:17:35,719 --> 02:17:36,379 pushing against 2373 02:17:36,380 --> 02:17:38,840 John C Dvorak: no use the way I heard it. You said that they 2374 02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:42,880 moved into Russia, 1000 kilometers? Well, 1000 2375 02:17:43,359 --> 02:17:49,179 Adam Curry: square kilometers is 400 is 427,000 acres. 2376 02:17:50,260 --> 02:17:55,060 John C Dvorak: Okay? So, yes, but going in 1000 if you went in 2377 02:17:55,060 --> 02:17:59,860 1000 and you had 1000 square that you'd only be in by 1000 2378 02:17:59,860 --> 02:18:02,880 kilometers, by one kilometer. Why? So, the point 2379 02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:06,780 Adam Curry: of the clips here is that they're all full of crap. 2380 02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:09,180 So this is five days ago. 2381 02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:12,060 Unknown: Tony. How much do we know about Ukraine's operations 2382 02:18:12,060 --> 02:18:15,360 inside Russia? You put it in that historical context for us, 2383 02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:18,660 yesterday, the first foreign incursion, military incursion, 2384 02:18:18,660 --> 02:18:21,440 into Russia since World War Two. Yes, 2385 02:18:21,439 --> 02:18:22,279 I mean, that tells 2386 02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:25,280 you the significance of it and how embarrassing in many ways, 2387 02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:28,940 it is for the Kremlin to have to confront this. And yesterday, 2388 02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:32,060 Ukrainian officials met with President Zelensky, and the 2389 02:18:32,060 --> 02:18:35,240 military told him that they had control of 1000 square 2390 02:18:35,240 --> 02:18:39,080 kilometers of Russian territory. That's about 386 square miles. 2391 02:18:39,380 --> 02:18:42,460 So that was Bloomberg. Here's Deutsche Bella. Ukraine says it 2392 02:18:42,460 --> 02:18:46,480 now controls around 1000 square kilometers of Russian territory. 2393 02:18:47,020 --> 02:18:50,620 Prize offensive, the biggest attack on Russian soil since the 2394 02:18:50,620 --> 02:18:51,580 Second World War. 2395 02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:53,380 Adam Curry: And now we go to, 2396 02:18:53,379 --> 02:18:54,939 John C Dvorak: what was that? What was that? That was a 2397 02:18:54,939 --> 02:18:57,399 misreport. Yeah, it's Deutsche Bella. 2398 02:18:57,879 --> 02:19:01,859 Adam Curry: But now we're going to go to just two days ago, and 2399 02:19:01,859 --> 02:19:03,299 now you hear this. Ukraine's 2400 02:19:03,300 --> 02:19:06,420 Unknown: army chief gave this update when speaking to 2401 02:19:06,420 --> 02:19:12,240 President Volodymyr Zelensky. Since the start of today, troops 2402 02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:15,600 have advanced around one mile in various directions. Okay, 2403 02:19:15,660 --> 02:19:18,120 Adam Curry: one mile now went from 1000 square kilometers to 2404 02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:21,320 one mile. Now we go to the BBC after 2405 02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:24,500 Unknown: advancing up to 10 kilometers into korsk, Ukrainian 2406 02:19:24,500 --> 02:19:27,020 troops have now posted video showing them inside the 2407 02:19:27,020 --> 02:19:30,020 neighboring Russian region of Belgorod. Okay, let's 2408 02:19:30,020 --> 02:19:31,820 Adam Curry: go to the CBC. Reports 2409 02:19:31,820 --> 02:19:34,400 Unknown: suggest Ukrainian troops have advanced more than 2410 02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:37,340 10 kilometers inside Russian territory. 2411 02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:38,600 Adam Curry: Let's go to France. 24 2412 02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,580 Unknown: Well, those are the declarations of the Commander in 2413 02:19:42,580 --> 02:19:47,140 Chief, Alexandre sisky, on the size of the territory currently 2414 02:19:47,140 --> 02:19:51,100 under Ukrainian control. So of course, this is what Kyiv is 2415 02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:57,520 saying, that there's 1150 square meters of territory Russian 2416 02:19:57,520 --> 02:20:01,200 territory currently under Ukrainian. Control. 2417 02:20:01,380 --> 02:20:04,080 Adam Curry: And then finally, today's report, 2418 02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:06,960 Unknown: Ukraine says it does not want to permanently occupy 2419 02:20:07,020 --> 02:20:10,500 Russia's Kursk Region after launching a major offensive into 2420 02:20:10,500 --> 02:20:14,100 the territory last week, Ukraine says its intention is to thwart 2421 02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:17,580 Russian attacks on its territory and to pull Russian military 2422 02:20:17,580 --> 02:20:20,720 resources away from the Ukrainian frontline. Russia's 2423 02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:23,420 Defense Ministry's released footage of what it says are 2424 02:20:23,420 --> 02:20:26,720 operations against Ukrainian forces operating inside the 2425 02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:30,260 Kursk Region, close to the Ukrainian border. Analysts say 2426 02:20:30,260 --> 02:20:33,800 Ukrainian troops have advanced up to 25 kilometers into Russian 2427 02:20:33,800 --> 02:20:37,580 territory. Russians displaced by the fighting are arriving in the 2428 02:20:37,580 --> 02:20:38,900 capital Moscow. More than 130,000 2429 02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:43,720 people have been, already been forced from their homes, with 2430 02:20:43,720 --> 02:20:47,260 another 60,000 in the process of leaving on Tuesday. 2431 02:20:47,980 --> 02:20:51,640 Adam Curry: So if I mean, no one has the story straight. 2432 02:20:51,640 --> 02:20:54,520 Everybody has different numbers, different summer, measuring 2433 02:20:54,520 --> 02:20:58,900 distance. Some are measuring area. Okay, they're all full of 2434 02:20:58,900 --> 02:21:01,740 crap. But what I think we're looking at here. But by 2435 02:21:01,740 --> 02:21:03,720 John C Dvorak: the we should back up and mention that we 2436 02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:08,460 since day one of this Ukraine, Russia fiasco, yeah, we have 2437 02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:11,820 been saying that these reports are all boat. We can't trust 2438 02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:14,400 anybody saying anything about anything is the same thing with 2439 02:21:14,400 --> 02:21:19,860 the Israel and and Hamas. You can't believe anybody on either 2440 02:21:19,860 --> 02:21:23,600 side. Which takes us right back to your earlier point, which is 2441 02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:26,600 that we don't get to see the mangled bodies anymore. The 2442 02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:28,040 reporting stinks. 2443 02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:31,220 Adam Curry: The only thing I hear out of this final report 2444 02:21:31,220 --> 02:21:35,000 that I just played is we have a demilitarized zone in the 2445 02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:39,500 making, and it's being determined partially by the 2446 02:21:39,500 --> 02:21:44,500 press, by the media Russia taking citizens out, that is 2447 02:21:44,500 --> 02:21:47,320 pretty consistent, although, again, different numbers 2448 02:21:47,320 --> 02:21:51,400 everywhere. I think we're looking at a DMZ, and that means 2449 02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:54,640 and they're talking about bargaining chips, and we're 2450 02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:59,140 getting very close to some kind of negotiation, and now we're 2451 02:21:59,140 --> 02:22:03,120 just jockeying for position. We're calling different areas or 2452 02:22:03,120 --> 02:22:07,020 different distances. There's a demilitarized zone in the making 2453 02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:08,520 here. That's my conclusion. 2454 02:22:12,060 --> 02:22:14,820 John C Dvorak: Well, it looks like there, I get the sense that 2455 02:22:14,820 --> 02:22:18,780 the Ukrainians are panicking, feeling that Trump could win, 2456 02:22:18,780 --> 02:22:20,780 and they know that once that happens, there's 2457 02:22:20,780 --> 02:22:23,180 Adam Curry: no more money. He has no more money. I did get an 2458 02:22:23,300 --> 02:22:24,260 awesome clip. 2459 02:22:24,740 --> 02:22:27,800 John C Dvorak: I do have some Ukrainian. This is a shorty. 2460 02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:31,820 Adam Curry: Is just light hearted, new word. So Ukraine 2461 02:22:31,820 --> 02:22:36,440 apparently has an ombudsman, an ombudsman. What does the 2462 02:22:36,440 --> 02:22:40,940 ombudsman do? What is an ombudsman? 2463 02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:45,100 John C Dvorak: Yes, he is the he is a person that's usually set 2464 02:22:45,100 --> 02:22:49,120 up as a neutral party within a corporation or a government that 2465 02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:53,140 is supposed to be beholding to nobody that actually hired him. 2466 02:22:53,440 --> 02:22:58,960 And he is, he or she is supposed to be a middle man for 2467 02:22:58,960 --> 02:23:00,100 complaints. 2468 02:23:00,760 --> 02:23:05,400 Adam Curry: Well, this middleman for complaints in Ukraine came 2469 02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:09,780 out with a report about the Russians torturing Ukrainians, 2470 02:23:09,780 --> 02:23:12,300 and he had an interesting word, yes. 2471 02:23:12,300 --> 02:23:17,520 Unknown: So the the Human Rights Commissioner here, ombudsman 2472 02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:21,020 here in Ukraine, opened an investigation following this 2473 02:23:21,020 --> 02:23:24,140 video, which has been circulating on social media. It 2474 02:23:24,140 --> 02:23:29,240 hasn't been identified yet, but it is in line of previews. I 2475 02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:30,920 Adam Curry: love this new word authentic. 2476 02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:37,220 John C Dvorak: Well, it's not a word as authenticated as what 2477 02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:41,440 we're supposed to be. I know, but I love identified. I love 2478 02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:44,440 it. There's another show title for us, which 2479 02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:47,860 Unknown: has been circulating on social media. It hasn't been 2480 02:23:47,980 --> 02:23:49,960 identified yet, but it is in line 2481 02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:53,439 John C Dvorak: of it's groovy. We have to look it up to make 2482 02:23:53,439 --> 02:23:54,699 sure it's not a word. I 2483 02:23:54,700 --> 02:23:56,800 Adam Curry: looked it up. There's no it's not a word. 2484 02:23:56,800 --> 02:24:00,540 There's no word authentic. Well, natalism also didn't show up. 2485 02:24:00,540 --> 02:24:04,260 Let me see. So natalism is a word. Well, now what was the 2486 02:24:04,260 --> 02:24:06,720 other word that didn't it was another word that didn't show 2487 02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:11,880 up. Apparently, uh, publical is a word somewhere. Wait, 2488 02:24:11,880 --> 02:24:16,800 authentic. Oh, no. Wait, identified. What is this? 2489 02:24:16,860 --> 02:24:25,460 Wictionary, Wiktionary, simple past and past part participle of 2490 02:24:25,460 --> 02:24:27,320 authentic, really, 2491 02:24:29,299 --> 02:24:31,579 John C Dvorak: that doesn't sound right to me. Doesn't sound 2492 02:24:31,579 --> 02:24:32,419 right to me either, 2493 02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:35,360 Adam Curry: to authentic. Let me see, can you authentic? 2494 02:24:37,219 --> 02:24:38,059 Unknown: That's crazy. 2495 02:24:39,140 --> 02:24:41,200 John C Dvorak: We're mocking people for using correct 2496 02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:42,940 language. That's great. No, no, 2497 02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:46,000 Adam Curry: there is no, there is no word authentic in the in 2498 02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:53,800 the online dictionaries, but there will be soon identified. 2499 02:24:54,280 --> 02:24:58,060 Please use identified in a sentence. Yeah. 2500 02:25:00,480 --> 02:25:04,080 John C Dvorak: All right, okay, get my Ukraine. Uh, odd report, 2501 02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:09,420 Ukraine. It's about this is just up. It says, odd report. For a 2502 02:25:09,420 --> 02:25:10,080 reason, 2503 02:25:10,140 --> 02:25:12,600 Unknown: Ukrainian military forces continue to control 2504 02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:15,420 hundreds of square miles of land in the Russian territory of 2505 02:25:15,420 --> 02:25:18,840 Kursk. Well, now it's hundreds of square miles. That's more 2506 02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:21,680 than a week after they launched an invasion that took Russia by 2507 02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:25,280 surprise. Now, few reporters have gotten right up to the 2508 02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:28,940 front lines of the fighting, but one who's gotten close is Nick 2509 02:25:28,940 --> 02:25:32,780 Connolly from the German outlet DW news. Earlier today, I 2510 02:25:32,780 --> 02:25:36,260 reached Conley in Sumy, which is a city on the Ukrainian side of 2511 02:25:36,260 --> 02:25:39,200 the border where Ukraine's military is staging equipment 2512 02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:42,400 for the operation. I asked him what the scene was like in a 2513 02:25:42,400 --> 02:25:46,060 city just 20 miles away from the front line. So 2514 02:25:46,060 --> 02:25:50,200 it's around 6pm local time here on Saturday evening, and people 2515 02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:52,900 are out walking with a conspicuous number of children. 2516 02:25:52,900 --> 02:25:55,420 This is really not something we're used to seeing in Ukraine 2517 02:25:55,420 --> 02:25:58,480 cities so close to the Russian border. It's a lot more alive 2518 02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:01,060 than places like Kharkiv. I can't really explain it, because 2519 02:26:01,060 --> 02:26:04,440 it's a city that constantly gets hit. Just this morning, there 2520 02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:06,720 was an Iskander ballistic missile hit less than a mile 2521 02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:08,760 from where I'm sitting now, in downtown. And you really 2522 02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:10,980 wouldn't tell by seeing all the people out. We saw a wedding 2523 02:26:10,980 --> 02:26:14,100 earlier, people taking pictures now, people out with coffees, 2524 02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:17,220 with drinks. It feels pretty idyllic. It's a really jarring 2525 02:26:17,700 --> 02:26:20,100 kind of feeling. Just two hours ago, we were close, we were 2526 02:26:20,100 --> 02:26:22,640 close to the border, and there were Russian glide bombs coming 2527 02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:25,160 in, which are these kind of devastating, very cheap weapons 2528 02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:28,100 that are kind of half a ton heavy and can just take houses 2529 02:26:28,100 --> 02:26:31,460 apart in a few moments. And here in SUNY, it kind of seems like 2530 02:26:31,460 --> 02:26:34,100 the war is pretty far away, if you kind of ignore the military 2531 02:26:34,100 --> 02:26:36,440 vehicles that you see passing through pretty much all the 2532 02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:36,680 time, 2533 02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:40,480 and I can hear some children in the background there. Also, 2534 02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:42,880 it's really weird, because, you know, you've seen so many 2535 02:26:42,880 --> 02:26:45,640 families in Ukraine, for Europe, anyone who had small children, 2536 02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:47,740 especially in Kyiv, which actually is much safer than 2537 02:26:47,740 --> 02:26:50,620 Sunni, where we are now, and we're less than about 20 miles 2538 02:26:50,740 --> 02:26:53,080 direct line to Russian border. This is a city that gets 2539 02:26:53,080 --> 02:26:56,140 attacked with cruise missiles, with ballistic missiles, with 2540 02:26:56,200 --> 02:27:00,420 drones, and yet it seems very alive. And it is strange. It is 2541 02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:03,360 fact that Sumi is a bit less on the radar, maybe, than Kharkiv. 2542 02:27:03,420 --> 02:27:06,060 It has less symbolic importance for the Russians, so they really 2543 02:27:06,060 --> 02:27:08,520 have focused on Kharkiv, which is not very far away, but it is, 2544 02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:10,680 it is, you know, something we weren't expecting, even though 2545 02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:11,520 we're in Ukraine all the 2546 02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:16,620 Adam Curry: time. Okay, what was weird about it? What was odd 2547 02:27:16,620 --> 02:27:17,820 about it? Who 2548 02:27:17,820 --> 02:27:20,840 John C Dvorak: was strange about it? Well, his comment was that 2549 02:27:20,900 --> 02:27:24,500 it's like as if nothing is going on, and he's got their kids out 2550 02:27:24,500 --> 02:27:27,080 there. They're playing in the playgrounds. There's no it's not 2551 02:27:27,080 --> 02:27:31,640 a war no zone, even though it's right there, 2552 02:27:31,700 --> 02:27:33,620 Adam Curry: by the way, the minute they start talking about 2553 02:27:33,620 --> 02:27:36,980 the 33 square miles or kilometers, will know it's over. 2554 02:27:37,880 --> 02:27:41,020 It's coming. It's coming. So, yeah, so they're just hanging 2555 02:27:41,020 --> 02:27:43,840 out there with the kids and the playground. Everything's groovy, 2556 02:27:44,620 --> 02:27:47,020 John C Dvorak: yeah. And he found this is a Deutsche Valley 2557 02:27:47,020 --> 02:27:53,020 guy, so, you know, that's CIA, so we, so I just found the 2558 02:27:53,020 --> 02:27:56,440 report to be odd, and that's why I called it this, because and 2559 02:27:56,440 --> 02:28:01,320 everyone, the guy himself, the DW guy, is kind of befuddled, 2560 02:28:01,320 --> 02:28:05,040 and so is the reporter that's taking the story in. So here we 2561 02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:05,760 go. So what 2562 02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:08,580 Unknown: do you make of this shift in the mood? I think 2563 02:28:08,580 --> 02:28:09,000 people 2564 02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:11,220 are really happy to have something else to talk about, to 2565 02:28:11,220 --> 02:28:15,240 have some grounds for optimism. There is a real sense of kind of 2566 02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:17,580 pride that, you know, the Russians are now having to feel 2567 02:28:17,700 --> 02:28:20,460 what war, isn't it? This isn't just going all in one direction. 2568 02:28:20,640 --> 02:28:23,480 There's a hope that maybe ordinary Russians will put 2569 02:28:23,480 --> 02:28:26,000 pressure on their government to end this war, if they see the 2570 02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:28,220 real cost of this war, if it stops being this kind of 2571 02:28:28,220 --> 02:28:31,640 colonial war that Russia can basically just carry out on 2572 02:28:31,640 --> 02:28:34,820 someone else's territory, far away. But there is also a lot of 2573 02:28:34,820 --> 02:28:37,760 worry about if this goes wrong, if the Ukraine troops there were 2574 02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:42,580 to be encircled or to get into Russian captivity. But for now, 2575 02:28:42,580 --> 02:28:45,100 it really reminds us of, kind of the 30 of the war, that late 2576 02:28:45,100 --> 02:28:47,620 summer, autumn of 22 when the Ukrainians were taking back 2577 02:28:47,620 --> 02:28:49,960 territory and really pushing the Russians back. There's a real 2578 02:28:49,960 --> 02:28:50,620 sense about him. 2579 02:28:51,700 --> 02:28:54,820 And I'm curious about Russians who live in the area. I 2580 02:28:54,820 --> 02:28:57,880 understand that some Russian locals to get away from the 2581 02:28:57,880 --> 02:29:00,600 fighting have actually crossed into Ukraine, rather than 2582 02:29:00,600 --> 02:29:03,060 fleeing further into Russia. Why is that? 2583 02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:07,440 So we spoke to a mother and son who were here in swimming 2584 02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:11,220 yesterday. They are joint Russian American citizens us in 2585 02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:15,300 the 90s, and got citizenship and had come back for some family 2586 02:29:15,300 --> 02:29:19,020 reasons, and so they were keen to leave Kursk Region Russia to 2587 02:29:19,020 --> 02:29:21,800 get to their family left in the US. So that was a kind of fairly 2588 02:29:21,860 --> 02:29:24,440 unusual case, but there are now reports coming in more people 2589 02:29:24,440 --> 02:29:27,140 trying to come to Ukraine because they decide that it's 2590 02:29:27,140 --> 02:29:31,220 actually worth it, that crossing the front lines between 2591 02:29:31,220 --> 02:29:34,100 Ukrainian Russian troops to get to Russian territory is just too 2592 02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:36,560 unsafe. But for now, the number's pretty small. Most 2593 02:29:36,560 --> 02:29:39,500 people we're seeing coming into Sumi are Ukrainians from 2594 02:29:39,500 --> 02:29:42,040 villages along the border who are seeing the Russians upping 2595 02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:44,620 their aerial bombing campaign and trying to get away from 2596 02:29:46,840 --> 02:29:47,860 Adam Curry: that where's the war? 2597 02:29:48,820 --> 02:29:53,440 John C Dvorak: That's what makes this, these clips, so odd. Now I 2598 02:29:53,620 --> 02:29:56,620 there's something else that's kind of odd, this Kursk thing, 2599 02:29:57,640 --> 02:30:00,420 mainly because I was watching some documentaries about. World 2600 02:30:00,420 --> 02:30:07,560 War Two, and Kursk was the last place that the Nazis attacked 2601 02:30:08,220 --> 02:30:12,600 after they got driven out of Stalingrad. They got driven out 2602 02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:17,760 of Russia and regrouped in Kursk. To no they regrouped 2603 02:30:17,940 --> 02:30:22,400 outside of Kursk, probably in Ukraine, because which was a 2604 02:30:22,460 --> 02:30:28,700 Nazi it was a Nazi state for all practical purposes. It still is. 2605 02:30:29,480 --> 02:30:32,420 And they attacked Russia. They figured they're going to do a 2606 02:30:32,420 --> 02:30:36,500 second attack, and they're going to attack Kursk, the city, not 2607 02:30:36,500 --> 02:30:40,900 the area. The area is called curse, but it's city itself, and 2608 02:30:40,900 --> 02:30:45,160 the Russians got wind of it, and set up a and booby trapped 2609 02:30:45,160 --> 02:30:50,980 everything and and set up a kind of a ambush, and ambushed the 2610 02:30:50,980 --> 02:30:55,060 Germans before they could get get their plan underway. And 2611 02:30:55,060 --> 02:30:58,300 that was actually the moment when World War Two, really 2612 02:30:58,300 --> 02:31:01,800 that's when the Russians took it over at that point, and it was, 2613 02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:05,220 and it involved Kursk, and so I might think, man, you know, this 2614 02:31:05,220 --> 02:31:08,700 is kind of an interesting coincidence that nobody's 2615 02:31:08,700 --> 02:31:09,420 mentioning. 2616 02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:11,880 Adam Curry: Well, when I think of Kursk, I think of that sub 2617 02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:15,540 that all those guys died when they sank. Remember that it was 2618 02:31:15,540 --> 02:31:15,660 at 2619 02:31:15,660 --> 02:31:19,560 John C Dvorak: the bottom the Kursk submarine disaster. I 2620 02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:23,660 think it was in the year 2000 something like that. Yeah, now 2621 02:31:24,920 --> 02:31:27,140 we'll play this last clip, and that'll be the end of 2622 02:31:27,140 --> 02:31:29,720 Unknown: it. Are you seeing any signs that make you think that 2623 02:31:30,020 --> 02:31:34,340 the Ukrainian military is thinking of moving on or or 2624 02:31:34,340 --> 02:31:37,100 potentially giving up some of this territory? Actually, quite 2625 02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:37,760 the opposite. We've 2626 02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:40,540 had news in the last few days of them setting up these military 2627 02:31:40,540 --> 02:31:43,900 authorities. So basically, this kind of administrations to deal 2628 02:31:43,900 --> 02:31:46,540 with Russian civilians left there. We've also seen them 2629 02:31:46,540 --> 02:31:49,960 blowing up bridges across some strategic rivers, which would 2630 02:31:49,960 --> 02:31:52,600 allow them to defend the territory more easily and 2631 02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:55,420 prevent the Russians coming back in. So it seems, I don't think 2632 02:31:55,420 --> 02:31:58,120 there's any sense the Ukrainians want to annex this territory, 2633 02:31:58,120 --> 02:32:00,660 like the Russians have done with bits occupied Ukraine, but they 2634 02:32:00,660 --> 02:32:03,420 want to hold on to it for a while to then trade it for other 2635 02:32:03,420 --> 02:32:07,620 territory that Russia has seized in Ukraine. Hmm, 2636 02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:16,140 John C Dvorak: something's up, yeah. Well, Russians don't seem 2637 02:32:16,140 --> 02:32:22,160 to be caring that much about it, no, which makes it even more 2638 02:32:22,700 --> 02:32:23,600 strange. 2639 02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:29,000 Adam Curry: The whole thing is lame. It's lame, really, it's 2640 02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:33,740 lame before we go to war torn Israel, which I'm sure we have 2641 02:32:33,740 --> 02:32:37,160 to talk about briefly. I would just go, like to go to war torn 2642 02:32:37,160 --> 02:32:38,300 UK for a moment. 2643 02:32:40,940 --> 02:32:43,240 John C Dvorak: I should get more clips from this. You the UK 2644 02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:48,340 thing is completely, it's, it's like, it's like propaganda wars 2645 02:32:48,340 --> 02:32:52,660 in some funny ways. Oh, very much we have, we have no idea of 2646 02:32:53,020 --> 02:32:54,400 what the truth is. 2647 02:32:54,700 --> 02:32:57,640 Adam Curry: Some headlines mi five could scrutinize Tommy 2648 02:32:57,640 --> 02:33:02,700 Robinson funding and checks, and it may extend to Farage. So here 2649 02:33:02,700 --> 02:33:08,820 comes the political hit jobs. So Tommy Robinson, who founded and 2650 02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:12,540 left the EDL, but apparently the EDL is responsible for all of 2651 02:33:12,540 --> 02:33:16,980 this and Elon Musk, according to the Guardian, inciting rioters 2652 02:33:16,980 --> 02:33:20,540 in Britain, was just a test run for Elon Musk, just see what he 2653 02:33:20,540 --> 02:33:21,980 plans for America. 2654 02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:26,000 John C Dvorak: Oh man, here's the guardian. 2655 02:33:26,060 --> 02:33:29,420 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, here's a BBC hit piece on Farage. Newly 2656 02:33:29,420 --> 02:33:32,420 published figures suggest the leader of reform UK, Nigel 2657 02:33:32,420 --> 02:33:36,920 Farage, has the highest earnings outside parliament of any MP in 2658 02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:40,360 the latest register of members financial interests, Mr. Farage 2659 02:33:40,360 --> 02:33:43,720 declared earnings of more than a million pounds a year over and 2660 02:33:43,720 --> 02:33:47,140 above his MP salary. More details from our political 2661 02:33:47,140 --> 02:33:48,880 correspondent Damian grammaticus, 2662 02:33:49,239 --> 02:33:52,479 Unknown: as the MP for Clacton Nigel, Farage earns an annual 2663 02:33:52,479 --> 02:33:57,279 salary of 91,000 pounds a year. It's now emerged that he is, in 2664 02:33:57,279 --> 02:34:03,359 addition, paid more than that every month by GB news, 97,900 a 2665 02:34:03,359 --> 02:34:08,099 month, to be exact, to present on its TV channel, all MPs have 2666 02:34:08,099 --> 02:34:11,039 to declare their outside earnings. The newly published 2667 02:34:11,039 --> 02:34:15,599 register shows Mr. Farage also earns 4000 pounds a month 2668 02:34:15,719 --> 02:34:18,839 writing for The Telegraph newspaper, and he's been paid 2669 02:34:18,839 --> 02:34:23,119 more than 16,000 pounds for recording short, personalized 2670 02:34:23,119 --> 02:34:27,019 video messages individuals can purchase online. The website 2671 02:34:27,019 --> 02:34:30,139 that sells the service says Mr. Farage is often asked to 2672 02:34:30,139 --> 02:34:34,039 reference his political views on Brexit, immigration and the 2673 02:34:34,039 --> 02:34:37,939 Reform Party. His total earnings outside parliament are almost 2674 02:34:37,939 --> 02:34:41,739 one and a quarter million pounds a year, comfortably, more, it's 2675 02:34:41,739 --> 02:34:45,999 thought, than any other MP. Mr. Farros declares that his extra 2676 02:34:45,999 --> 02:34:49,359 parliamentary work takes the equivalent of around nine work 2677 02:34:49,359 --> 02:34:53,139 days a month. Boris Johnson's government had following a 2678 02:34:53,139 --> 02:34:57,339 scandal about second jobs, said it was in favor of capping both 2679 02:34:57,339 --> 02:35:00,839 the amount of time MPs could spend on outside. Work and the 2680 02:35:00,839 --> 02:35:04,379 amount of money they could earn, but later said restrictions 2681 02:35:04,379 --> 02:35:08,699 would be impractical. Labor in its last manifesto, promised it 2682 02:35:08,699 --> 02:35:12,719 would bring in rules to prevent MPs taking up roles that stopped 2683 02:35:12,719 --> 02:35:16,799 them serving their constituents and the country. Oh, come 2684 02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:19,620 Adam Curry: on. After Nigel, making plans for Nigel over 2685 02:35:19,620 --> 02:35:20,360 there is this 2686 02:35:20,360 --> 02:35:22,820 John C Dvorak: like peanuts compared to what our congress 2687 02:35:22,820 --> 02:35:27,140 people make on insider trading, on insider trading and 2688 02:35:27,140 --> 02:35:32,180 everything in between, is public speaking and the rest of it? Oh, 2689 02:35:33,020 --> 02:35:34,940 yeah, they're going after him for some what's he doing, 2690 02:35:34,940 --> 02:35:37,940 though? Yeah, we haven't gotten any clips from about him. He 2691 02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:42,640 hasn't spoke at Question time that I can find. So he did 2692 02:35:42,639 --> 02:35:45,339 Adam Curry: one question time. It was boring and long, and 2693 02:35:45,339 --> 02:35:49,119 everyone left, and there was no oohing and eyeing or booing, 2694 02:35:49,659 --> 02:35:54,159 yeah. And then just thought this was rather interesting. The 2695 02:35:54,159 --> 02:36:00,119 Church of England is going to rebrand. They're rebranding to 2696 02:36:00,119 --> 02:36:01,799 drop the word church. 2697 02:36:03,959 --> 02:36:05,399 John C Dvorak: They're just going to call themselves 2698 02:36:05,399 --> 02:36:05,999 England. 2699 02:36:06,060 --> 02:36:08,460 Adam Curry: The Church of England looks set to undergo a 2700 02:36:08,460 --> 02:36:12,300 rebrand by dropping the word church in favor of relevant and 2701 02:36:12,300 --> 02:36:15,720 modern sounding descriptions such as community, 2702 02:36:16,379 --> 02:36:20,359 John C Dvorak: the community of England. Yeah, yeah. What it is? 2703 02:36:20,359 --> 02:36:22,999 A church. Hello, yeah, no, no, 2704 02:36:23,360 --> 02:36:26,240 Adam Curry: we can't have that. A spokesman for the church 2705 02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,880 claim, one reason why the word church appears less often in 2706 02:36:28,880 --> 02:36:33,380 descriptions of new worshiping communities is that these forms 2707 02:36:33,380 --> 02:36:36,320 of worship can exist outside traditional brick and mortar 2708 02:36:36,320 --> 02:36:37,640 churches. Oh, okay, 2709 02:36:38,660 --> 02:36:39,380 John C Dvorak: so what? 2710 02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:45,760 Adam Curry: England has fallen. They've fallen. It's over with 2711 02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:47,980 at least for a couple years, until we get 2712 02:36:48,280 --> 02:36:51,280 John C Dvorak: a big apologist for religions or churches. But a 2713 02:36:51,280 --> 02:36:55,120 church is a church. It looks like a church, it acts like a 2714 02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:58,840 church, and there are services that are convened within the 2715 02:36:58,840 --> 02:37:01,980 church. You think, Why would you call it what? Why don't you just 2716 02:37:01,980 --> 02:37:05,340 call it what it is? What's the point of this? Is like the 1984 2717 02:37:06,300 --> 02:37:10,860 Adam Curry: No, it is 1984 it's 2024 it's 1984 all over again. 2718 02:37:11,880 --> 02:37:17,460 You can't do anything in the UK. You can't annoy anyone on social 2719 02:37:17,460 --> 02:37:22,040 media. I, you know, I live there. I like the Brits. 2720 02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:26,060 John C Dvorak: What good is social media if you can't annoy 2721 02:37:26,060 --> 02:37:26,600 people? 2722 02:37:26,660 --> 02:37:30,860 Adam Curry: That's the whole point of social media, I know. 2723 02:37:33,560 --> 02:37:38,180 And then we cannot let an episode go by without the latest 2724 02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:41,860 very, very scary temperature rise, 2725 02:37:42,940 --> 02:37:45,520 John C Dvorak: climate change. Curiously, I got some climate 2726 02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:47,800 chips. The chips, climate chips. Well, here's 2727 02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:49,660 Adam Curry: my climate chip. Spanish beachgoers 2728 02:37:49,660 --> 02:37:52,660 Unknown: seeking cool reprieve from the summer's heat, may have 2729 02:37:52,660 --> 02:37:55,060 been surprised when they dipped their feet in the water on 2730 02:37:55,060 --> 02:37:56,140 Friday. All right, 2731 02:37:56,140 --> 02:38:00,600 Adam Curry: so the Spanish beachgoers were surprised when 2732 02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:05,880 they dip their toe in the water. Let's find out why they might 2733 02:38:05,880 --> 02:38:07,080 have been surprised. 2734 02:38:07,380 --> 02:38:10,620 Unknown: The Mediterranean Sea hit a new heat record, topping 2735 02:38:10,620 --> 02:38:14,340 its highest ever temperature for the second year running, the 2736 02:38:14,340 --> 02:38:17,580 daily median water surface temperature reached 28.9 degrees 2737 02:38:17,580 --> 02:38:21,440 Celsius compared with 28.7 degrees Celsius last year, 2738 02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:24,740 Adam Curry: it's two tenths of a degree warmer, and people were 2739 02:38:24,740 --> 02:38:30,260 surprised, oh, oh my, this is so warm, two tenths of a degree 2740 02:38:30,260 --> 02:38:31,580 warmer. Wait 2741 02:38:31,940 --> 02:38:34,220 John C Dvorak: a minute, this. So this report claims that 2742 02:38:34,220 --> 02:38:38,780 people can sense two tenths of a degree to the point where it 2743 02:38:38,780 --> 02:38:40,240 becomes a news story. What's 2744 02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:44,200 Adam Curry: wrong with you? You can't sense that you don't you. 2745 02:38:44,260 --> 02:38:48,100 You anti climate change conspiracy theorists. You 2746 02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:50,740 Unknown: the daily median water surface temperature reached 28.9 2747 02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:55,300 degrees Celsius compared with 28.7 degrees Celsius last year. 2748 02:38:55,300 --> 02:38:59,200 The Record comes on the heels of a scorching July over large 2749 02:38:59,200 --> 02:39:03,720 parts of the basin, and for experts, the news is concerning. 2750 02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:07,020 Overheating of the sea prevents the air from cooling at night 2751 02:39:07,140 --> 02:39:08,880 and encourages heat waves. 2752 02:39:10,440 --> 02:39:13,860 Adam Curry: It encourages heat waves. Hey, hey, hey, hey, heat 2753 02:39:13,920 --> 02:39:17,580 climate. This is the ocean talking. How about a heat wave. 2754 02:39:17,940 --> 02:39:18,300 Warmer 2755 02:39:18,300 --> 02:39:21,200 Unknown: water also leads to higher mortality rates among 2756 02:39:21,200 --> 02:39:24,680 many fish species. Experts from the Intergovernmental Panel on 2757 02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:28,280 Climate Change, long classified the Mediterranean as a hotspot 2758 02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:31,580 for global warming, they say it is particularly vulnerable to 2759 02:39:31,580 --> 02:39:35,660 rising sea surface temperatures and faces significant risks due 2760 02:39:35,660 --> 02:39:36,980 to climate change. Due 2761 02:39:36,980 --> 02:39:39,620 Adam Curry: to climate change. There it is due to climate 2762 02:39:39,620 --> 02:39:43,600 change. Everything is due to climate change. I think we we 2763 02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:45,940 should just keep that. We should just keep that in we should just 2764 02:39:45,940 --> 02:39:49,420 say, Oh, I'm not feeling well 2765 02:39:49,480 --> 02:39:51,640 Unknown: due to climate change, yeah, oh, 2766 02:39:51,640 --> 02:39:53,200 John C Dvorak: I have a headache. Definitely make that a 2767 02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:54,040 sub clip. 2768 02:39:54,100 --> 02:39:56,380 Unknown: I have a headache due to climate change, yeah, 2769 02:39:56,379 --> 02:39:58,899 Adam Curry: just, we just got to keep it in there due to climate 2770 02:39:58,899 --> 02:40:01,559 change. Oh. Oh no, I missed the bus due to 2771 02:40:01,560 --> 02:40:02,760 Unknown: climate change. 2772 02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:07,260 John C Dvorak: I think you're onto something. Okay, good. I 2773 02:40:07,260 --> 02:40:10,800 got a climate change in SoCal Southern California and the 2774 02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:11,580 water crisis, 2775 02:40:11,640 --> 02:40:14,700 Unknown: cities and suburbs in Southern California rely on the 2776 02:40:14,700 --> 02:40:18,840 Colorado River for about a third of their water supplies. Now, 2777 02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:18,960 the 2778 02:40:18,960 --> 02:40:22,640 biggest user of that water is set to receive more than a half 2779 02:40:22,700 --> 02:40:27,020 billion dollars from the federal government to use less. Alex 2780 02:40:27,020 --> 02:40:31,640 Hager, with member station K UNC, has more. The Imperial 2781 02:40:31,640 --> 02:40:34,520 Irrigation District in Southern California agreed to leave a 2782 02:40:34,520 --> 02:40:37,460 portion of its Colorado River water in Lake Mead over each of 2783 02:40:37,460 --> 02:40:40,220 the next three years. That'll boost the nation's largest 2784 02:40:40,220 --> 02:40:43,540 reservoir, which has been sapped by decades of steady demand and 2785 02:40:43,540 --> 02:40:44,680 dry conditions fueled 2786 02:40:44,680 --> 02:40:45,820 by climate change, 2787 02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:48,640 the federal government will pay the farm district with money 2788 02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:51,700 from the inflation Reduction Act. Some opponents of the new 2789 02:40:51,700 --> 02:40:54,700 water saving deal say it was rushed and didn't leave time for 2790 02:40:54,700 --> 02:40:55,600 public comment. 2791 02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:58,660 They also say sending less water through the river could hurt 2792 02:40:58,660 --> 02:41:01,920 wildlife habitats and air quality, lower flows could dry 2793 02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:04,980 out a nearby lake bed and send windblown dust towards some 2794 02:41:04,980 --> 02:41:05,400 cities 2795 02:41:05,460 --> 02:41:06,960 due to climate change, 2796 02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:09,300 dust, 2797 02:41:09,659 --> 02:41:15,959 Adam Curry: it's gonna get dusty. Brother, oh man, you 2798 02:41:15,959 --> 02:41:20,299 know, and it's still a punchline for us, but it's really going 2799 02:41:20,299 --> 02:41:23,179 one of these days, they're going to clamp down, and we're all 2800 02:41:23,179 --> 02:41:26,719 going to be sad that we only laughed about it. Yeah. Well, 2801 02:41:26,719 --> 02:41:26,959 there's 2802 02:41:26,959 --> 02:41:29,119 John C Dvorak: nothing else we can do but laugh about it. 2803 02:41:30,199 --> 02:41:34,459 Here's climate change and hurricane Debbie, which is funny 2804 02:41:34,459 --> 02:41:36,019 name for hurricane in Georgia, 2805 02:41:37,160 --> 02:41:40,480 Unknown: a crew is hauling away a makeshift road block outside 2806 02:41:40,480 --> 02:41:44,320 Statesboro, Georgia, a large pile of dirt heaped on the road 2807 02:41:44,320 --> 02:41:47,020 to keep people from crossing a bridge that flooded in the 2808 02:41:47,020 --> 02:41:47,500 storm. 2809 02:41:47,620 --> 02:41:50,320 We done this because people have been running the barricades. 2810 02:41:50,380 --> 02:41:51,280 Dink Butler 2811 02:41:51,280 --> 02:41:54,760 is the public works director for Bullock County, about 50 miles 2812 02:41:54,760 --> 02:41:57,940 northwest of Savannah and an hour and a half from the beach. 2813 02:41:58,120 --> 02:42:01,800 Heavy rainfall from Tropical Storm Debbie overflowed. Stream 2814 02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:05,220 banks burst through dams and washed away dirt roads here, 2815 02:42:05,520 --> 02:42:09,240 some neighborhoods were stranded by water, especially 2816 02:42:09,900 --> 02:42:12,900 along the rivers, the dead end roads that go into the river. 2817 02:42:12,960 --> 02:42:13,380 Butler 2818 02:42:13,379 --> 02:42:17,039 says the county is hauling in rock to fully rebuild some 2819 02:42:17,039 --> 02:42:17,999 roads. We're 2820 02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:23,600 addressing the limited access or the no access locations. We're 2821 02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:26,660 prioritizing those for so that we'll be able to get emergency 2822 02:42:26,660 --> 02:42:28,040 services to them if they need it 2823 02:42:28,100 --> 02:42:32,060 beyond emergency repairs, the county has a long recovery 2824 02:42:32,120 --> 02:42:37,160 ahead. Bullitt County has around 700 miles of dirt roads, the 2825 02:42:37,160 --> 02:42:41,140 most in the state. Butler says, and the storm washed away a lot 2826 02:42:41,140 --> 02:42:41,680 of them. We 2827 02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:44,260 probably lost an average of a foot of dirt across most of 2828 02:42:44,260 --> 02:42:45,580 these roads, like many of the 2829 02:42:45,579 --> 02:42:49,299 areas hardest hit by tropical storm, Debbie Bullitt county is 2830 02:42:49,299 --> 02:42:52,839 pretty far inland. The path of the storm has a lot to do with 2831 02:42:52,839 --> 02:42:56,919 that. Debbie came from the Gulf of Mexico across Florida into 2832 02:42:56,919 --> 02:43:00,219 South Georgia, rather than traveling up the Atlantic coast. 2833 02:43:00,579 --> 02:43:04,079 But Debbie also caused those heavy inland impacts because it 2834 02:43:04,079 --> 02:43:08,459 moved slowly while dumping a lot of rain. University of Georgia 2835 02:43:08,459 --> 02:43:12,119 meteorologist Marshall Shepherd says storms like that are 2836 02:43:12,119 --> 02:43:13,919 getting more common. We know 2837 02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:19,140 that climate change is juicing precipitating systems in general 2838 02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:20,720 due to climate change. 2839 02:43:23,299 --> 02:43:27,199 Adam Curry: Juicing climate change is, hey, I thought we 2840 02:43:27,199 --> 02:43:30,139 were gonna get a whole bunch of hurricanes. Where's the big 2841 02:43:30,139 --> 02:43:37,879 hurricane season? Oh, I'm sorry. Talking about, oh, I'm sorry. 2842 02:43:38,239 --> 02:43:40,539 We're only a, we're only at D for Debbie, 2843 02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:43,660 John C Dvorak: yeah, it's not that many. We should be at 2844 02:43:43,660 --> 02:43:45,700 Adam Curry: Samantha by now, according to the earlier 2845 02:43:45,700 --> 02:43:49,480 reports, didn't we have reports about that storms? 2846 02:43:50,140 --> 02:43:52,180 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there was a bunch of reports, because they 2847 02:43:52,180 --> 02:43:55,180 had one early and they said, Oh, this will be the worst, because 2848 02:43:55,180 --> 02:43:57,760 it goes till November, so we can catch up. There's plenty of 2849 02:43:57,760 --> 02:43:58,360 time. 2850 02:43:59,980 --> 02:44:04,920 Adam Curry: Let me see, it was hurricane. Hurricane. Gotta 2851 02:44:04,920 --> 02:44:05,940 John C Dvorak: get the Zelda, 2852 02:44:06,480 --> 02:44:09,600 Adam Curry: yes, hurricane, wasn't it. This old 2853 02:44:09,600 --> 02:44:12,360 Unknown: report and now with back to back to back natural 2854 02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:15,960 disasters, Biden is asking Congress to boost emergency 2855 02:44:15,960 --> 02:44:17,700 funding to $16 billion 2856 02:44:18,420 --> 02:44:20,360 Adam Curry: I don't know when that was from. When is that 2857 02:44:21,140 --> 02:44:24,320 that's from last year, and we were supposed to get big 2858 02:44:24,320 --> 02:44:30,500 hurricanes. I don't understand. Okay. Anyway, due to climate 2859 02:44:30,500 --> 02:44:31,040 change, you 2860 02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:32,720 John C Dvorak: have a part two to this. Okay. 2861 02:44:32,719 --> 02:44:35,239 Unknown: Shepherd says the intense rainfall fits the 2862 02:44:35,239 --> 02:44:36,319 overall trend. 2863 02:44:36,380 --> 02:44:40,420 The data has been very clear for several years now that when it 2864 02:44:40,420 --> 02:44:43,900 rains, it rains with greater intensity, even in just sort of 2865 02:44:44,080 --> 02:44:47,140 heavy afternoon thunderstorms, not just hurricanes, it's 2866 02:44:47,140 --> 02:44:51,520 not just more rain. The warming ocean is also making hurricanes 2867 02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:55,420 more powerful. Hurricanes have historically lost steam as they 2868 02:44:55,420 --> 02:44:59,380 move over land, but Shepherd says that's not as true anymore 2869 02:44:59,380 --> 02:44:59,740 as 2870 02:44:59,739 --> 02:45:06,119 the. Storms are more juiced, and as their I think impacts further 2871 02:45:06,179 --> 02:45:08,639 inland will be significant. Officials 2872 02:45:08,640 --> 02:45:12,360 are trying to adjust to this new reality of hurricane impacts 2873 02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:15,720 outside typical coastal areas. Jill Nagel with the Georgia 2874 02:45:15,720 --> 02:45:19,380 Department of Transportation, says the agency learns from each 2875 02:45:19,380 --> 02:45:20,240 storm, with 2876 02:45:20,240 --> 02:45:24,560 this one being different, we will put this in our plan, our 2877 02:45:24,560 --> 02:45:29,720 statewide plan, and looking at the future. If we have another 2878 02:45:29,720 --> 02:45:33,260 event like this, what's our best course of action? Like, 2879 02:45:33,320 --> 02:45:36,920 what roads and bridges should they monitor for flooding? Local 2880 02:45:36,920 --> 02:45:40,660 leaders like Butler say they've also learned lessons. I 2881 02:45:40,660 --> 02:45:44,380 just hope that we don't have to face using them again. No time 2882 02:45:44,380 --> 02:45:44,680 soon, 2883 02:45:44,739 --> 02:45:47,799 hurricane season continues through November and usually 2884 02:45:47,799 --> 02:45:50,739 gets more active in the fall. Yeah, I just 2885 02:45:50,740 --> 02:45:53,560 Adam Curry: got a note from Sir by His grace, who is in Florida. 2886 02:45:53,560 --> 02:45:56,980 He said, No, no, September, September. September is when 2887 02:45:56,980 --> 02:46:01,800 it's all supposed to happen, okay, but I hope it doesn't for 2888 02:46:01,800 --> 02:46:07,020 him and his family, yeah, for everyone, it's no good. I have 2889 02:46:07,020 --> 02:46:11,160 two clips just of some things that are actually this. You 2890 02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:17,760 know, you had a 4.4 magnitude momentum scale earthquake 2891 02:46:18,300 --> 02:46:20,720 John C Dvorak: last week, Southern California. Yeah, yeah. 2892 02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:21,980 Yeah. And 2893 02:46:22,640 --> 02:46:26,060 Adam Curry: listening to this clip, I'm like, Oh, I see what 2894 02:46:26,060 --> 02:46:28,460 you're doing. This is a real estate scam. 2895 02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:32,540 Unknown: Angelenos felt the jolt, the shaking, of a 4.4 2896 02:46:33,020 --> 02:46:41,080 magnitude earthquake this week. It felt like a basketball some 2897 02:46:41,080 --> 02:46:43,660 put their earthquake drills to good use and sheltered 2898 02:46:43,660 --> 02:46:47,380 underneath kitchen tables. This latest one originated from the 2899 02:46:47,380 --> 02:46:50,920 Puente Hills fault, which is 25 miles long and runs from 2900 02:46:50,920 --> 02:46:54,940 Glendale to Pasadena to Puente Hills. It's been really active 2901 02:46:54,940 --> 02:46:59,980 in recent months, much more so than in past years. In its 2902 02:46:59,980 --> 02:47:03,000 location near apartment buildings, homes and businesses, 2903 02:47:03,060 --> 02:47:04,140 is concerning. 2904 02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:07,440 Has the potential for a very large earthquake. It's been 2905 02:47:07,440 --> 02:47:09,720 modeled up to magnitude seven and a half. 2906 02:47:09,719 --> 02:47:13,259 The issue retrofitting is coming back to the forefront. In 2015 2907 02:47:13,679 --> 02:47:17,339 the LA City Council voted to require certain older buildings 2908 02:47:17,339 --> 02:47:20,959 to undergo retrofits to make them more resilient. Owners had 2909 02:47:20,959 --> 02:47:25,039 until 2023 to make those changes. According to analysis 2910 02:47:25,039 --> 02:47:28,519 from the LA Times, there are currently 6000 buildings 2911 02:47:28,519 --> 02:47:31,879 potentially in need of earthquake updates in LA County. 2912 02:47:32,119 --> 02:47:35,539 KTLA consumer expert David Lazarus says, luckily, 2913 02:47:35,719 --> 02:47:39,379 technology and infrastructure has improved enormously over the 2914 02:47:39,379 --> 02:47:40,219 decades. 2915 02:47:40,279 --> 02:47:43,779 Buildings that go up now will simply be safer than buildings 2916 02:47:43,779 --> 02:47:47,559 that went up, say, 2030, years ago. So that's an element to all 2917 02:47:47,559 --> 02:47:51,099 of this at the same time. Make no mistake, it's a roll of the 2918 02:47:51,099 --> 02:47:53,979 dice. If you're planning to spend millions or billions of 2919 02:47:53,979 --> 02:47:57,459 dollars on a new project, you know full well there could be a 2920 02:47:57,459 --> 02:47:58,959 catastrophe around the corner. 2921 02:47:59,139 --> 02:48:01,559 Adam Curry: No, I think what's happening here is 6000 2922 02:48:02,039 --> 02:48:04,799 homeowners are going to get a knock on the door. It's going to 2923 02:48:04,799 --> 02:48:07,079 be up. If you don't want to upgrade, we're going to tear it 2924 02:48:07,079 --> 02:48:11,639 down and we're going to put a new building here. Smells like a 2925 02:48:11,639 --> 02:48:12,959 real estate scam to me. 2926 02:48:14,280 --> 02:48:16,380 John C Dvorak: Well, you know that earlier report about the 2927 02:48:16,380 --> 02:48:19,980 water, they cut the water off, seems like a real estate scam 2928 02:48:19,980 --> 02:48:23,600 too. I mean, when you drive down Highway five over the last few 2929 02:48:23,600 --> 02:48:29,900 years and you get down to maybe 100 miles north of Los Angeles, 2930 02:48:30,080 --> 02:48:33,020 everything is all dried up, and there's sign there's billboards 2931 02:48:33,020 --> 02:48:36,200 up, people saying they've taken they're screwing us over. They 2932 02:48:36,200 --> 02:48:38,780 won't give us water, so we're farmers are going out of 2933 02:48:38,780 --> 02:48:42,220 business left and right, and there's a bunch of dead. You see 2934 02:48:42,220 --> 02:48:47,560 dead trees all over the place, orchards that are just dried up 2935 02:48:47,560 --> 02:48:48,460 and dead. 2936 02:48:48,819 --> 02:48:51,999 Adam Curry: Oh, you know? Why you know? Why don't you know? 2937 02:48:51,999 --> 02:48:52,839 Why don't you 2938 02:48:54,580 --> 02:48:56,620 Unknown: climate change? Due to climate change, 2939 02:48:57,879 --> 02:49:01,979 Adam Curry: exactly due to climate change. Man, get out of 2940 02:49:01,979 --> 02:49:05,039 there. Get out of there. You're never going to leave. Are you? 2941 02:49:05,039 --> 02:49:07,439 You want? You want to? I love it here. You're going down with the 2942 02:49:07,439 --> 02:49:12,179 ship. All right. Final clip. This is just one of those little 2943 02:49:12,179 --> 02:49:14,459 revealing things that you didn't hear much about in the 2944 02:49:14,459 --> 02:49:15,719 headlines. The voting 2945 02:49:15,720 --> 02:49:18,960 Unknown: technology company suing right wing media outlets 2946 02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:22,520 over 2020 Election coverage is now embroiled in its own 2947 02:49:22,520 --> 02:49:26,300 controversy. The US Justice Department indicted three 2948 02:49:26,300 --> 02:49:30,020 current and former executives from Smartmatic on charges 2949 02:49:30,020 --> 02:49:33,920 connected to a bribery scheme. Prosecutors say the executives 2950 02:49:33,920 --> 02:49:38,000 use a slush fund to bribe the former top election official in 2951 02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:41,920 the Philippines, Andy Bautista, in exchange providing voting 2952 02:49:41,920 --> 02:49:46,360 machines and services for the country's 2016 elections. The 2953 02:49:46,360 --> 02:49:50,380 alleged bribes amount to at least $1 million Bautista, who 2954 02:49:50,380 --> 02:49:54,100 was indicted in another case in the US, is currently in hiding, 2955 02:49:54,520 --> 02:49:57,520 though he responded to the indictment on X saying he's 2956 02:49:57,520 --> 02:50:00,600 innocent and the charges are politically motive. Debated by 2957 02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:04,800 Philippine officials, Smartmatic responded, saying the current 2958 02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:08,160 employees indicted have been placed on leave but remain 2959 02:50:08,160 --> 02:50:11,640 innocent until proven guilty. The company maintains the 2960 02:50:11,640 --> 02:50:14,760 indictment does not involve voter fraud and the business 2961 02:50:14,820 --> 02:50:18,660 itself is not included in the indictment. Smartmatic is 2962 02:50:18,660 --> 02:50:22,040 currently suing several media personalities and news outlets, 2963 02:50:22,220 --> 02:50:25,760 including Fox News and Newsmax, in a nearly $3 billion 2964 02:50:26,060 --> 02:50:29,540 defamation lawsuit over commentary falsely accusing the 2965 02:50:29,540 --> 02:50:33,020 company of helping to steal the 2020, election from former 2966 02:50:33,020 --> 02:50:34,280 President Donald Trump, 2967 02:50:34,640 --> 02:50:37,880 Adam Curry: there you go. Bunch of corrupt, corrupt people in 2968 02:50:37,880 --> 02:50:42,040 that company. Sounds like he's in hiding, but he posts on X, 2969 02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:44,800 yeah, and we can't find out where you are. No, 2970 02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:49,420 John C Dvorak: you can't find out anything. Can't find out 2971 02:50:49,420 --> 02:50:54,460 who's calling me and telling me that. Hey, Mr. Davok, Yo, you 2972 02:50:54,460 --> 02:50:59,380 got a call wreck recently. Why you are in call wreck? Do you 2973 02:50:59,380 --> 02:51:03,300 have? Did you got good insurance for a car wreck you had just 2974 02:51:03,300 --> 02:51:03,900 recently 2975 02:51:03,959 --> 02:51:07,079 Adam Curry: or like I got due tonight? GOP petitioned to 2976 02:51:07,079 --> 02:51:10,919 require ID to vote in all 50 states. We were just 15 2977 02:51:10,919 --> 02:51:15,599 signatures away. Just 15 don't cost us this sign now stop. 2978 02:51:15,599 --> 02:51:20,479 Equals, end. That's the third one. Just 2979 02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:22,100 John C Dvorak: read another one of these things. That's the 2980 02:51:22,100 --> 02:51:24,560 third. Have there been any other ones that you kind of passed 2981 02:51:24,560 --> 02:51:25,340 over and No, 2982 02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:26,480 Adam Curry: no, so 2983 02:51:26,479 --> 02:51:27,919 John C Dvorak: you've gotten three? Three, 2984 02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:33,080 Adam Curry: yes. Well, okay, the night is young. Anyway, I'm 2985 02:51:33,080 --> 02:51:36,380 happy that you're in California. You are boots on the ground in 2986 02:51:36,380 --> 02:51:39,860 California. Yeah, that's good. I'm 2987 02:51:39,860 --> 02:51:41,740 John C Dvorak: boots on the ground. One of the guys that was 2988 02:51:41,740 --> 02:51:43,900 coming to the meetup says, you know, I don't know you guys a 2989 02:51:44,080 --> 02:51:48,280 safe place to park my Tesla. And I'm saying I'm in the East Bay. 2990 02:51:48,280 --> 02:51:51,640 That's all the car you park it, you won't find your Tesla. 2991 02:51:51,640 --> 02:51:54,280 That's the problem, because there's this Tesla, Tesla, 2992 02:51:54,280 --> 02:51:58,060 Tesla, Tesla. You know, he's and his thought was that, well, you 2993 02:51:58,060 --> 02:52:01,440 know, people hate Elon Musk now, so they're gonna break my Tesla 2994 02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:02,100 windows. 2995 02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:08,400 Unknown: Imagine all the people who could do, oh, yeah, that'd 2996 02:52:08,400 --> 02:52:08,520 be 2997 02:52:11,219 --> 02:52:19,019 Adam Curry: fun. No, we're gonna thank you donors who came in $50 2998 02:52:19,319 --> 02:52:22,879 and above, we give your name and your location if you've provided 2999 02:52:22,879 --> 02:52:26,359 it, sometimes there's a message, if we can slip it in there, and 3000 02:52:26,359 --> 02:52:29,299 obviously your donation amount. Thank you to those came in under 3001 02:52:29,299 --> 02:52:33,259 50 for reasons of anonymity. And again, we plead for those 3002 02:52:33,259 --> 02:52:36,199 sustaining donations. You set up your own frequency, you set up 3003 02:52:36,199 --> 02:52:39,439 your own number, because we're completely value for value. If 3004 02:52:39,439 --> 02:52:42,099 you get value out of the show, send some value back to us with 3005 02:52:42,099 --> 02:52:45,999 your time, talent or treasure, no agenda donations.com or hit 3006 02:52:45,999 --> 02:52:49,419 that little support button in your modern podcast app. John, 3007 02:52:49,419 --> 02:52:51,339 go ahead and tell us who. Yeah. Let's start 3008 02:52:51,340 --> 02:52:57,220 John C Dvorak: with Erie. Kira Kira Kira Augi. Kiragi, karagi, 3009 02:52:57,460 --> 02:53:03,900 baby. Prague Oklahoma, okay? Prague, Oklahoma. James Watson 3010 02:53:03,900 --> 02:53:09,360 in concord township, Ohio, 105 35 he's on his way to 3011 02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:13,260 knighthood. It looks like then we have Angela Garcia in San 3012 02:53:13,260 --> 02:53:21,000 Francisco, Adam Reimer in Napa, and light Chow and Sophie nuyen 3013 02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:26,480 in parts unknown, but also in California, because they all 3014 02:53:26,480 --> 02:53:28,760 went to the Albany meetup, each one of them dropped in $100 3015 02:53:29,360 --> 02:53:36,560 nice. That's nice. Robin Tolbert in Topeka eight, and it's got 3016 02:53:36,740 --> 02:53:43,240 too many eggs.com. Mentioned too many eggs.com. Beautiful sir 3017 02:53:43,240 --> 02:53:48,460 Dave of the clay pits in East North port. Pert, I'm sorry, 3018 02:53:48,700 --> 02:53:53,560 East North port, New York, eight, 888. Baroness knight in 3019 02:53:53,560 --> 02:54:00,640 Edmonds, Washington, 88 Tyler Darrington in Las Vegas, las 3020 02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:03,600 wages, Nevada, 808. And guess who's missing? 3021 02:54:04,200 --> 02:54:05,100 Unknown: Oh, 3022 02:54:06,660 --> 02:54:07,620 Adam Curry: no, this. 3023 02:54:07,680 --> 02:54:09,660 John C Dvorak: This may be the reason that there was numbers 3024 02:54:09,660 --> 02:54:11,040 were so low off the mailing. 3025 02:54:11,100 --> 02:54:14,340 Adam Curry: We need to we need a health check. We need a wellness 3026 02:54:14,340 --> 02:54:14,880 check. 3027 02:54:15,900 --> 02:54:18,540 John C Dvorak: Yeah, so Kevin, we have to assume Kevin 3028 02:54:18,540 --> 02:54:22,460 McLaughlin sent it in and didn't go through this is this was an 3029 02:54:22,460 --> 02:54:25,820 issue, I think, which caused the low numbers. What kind of issue? 3030 02:54:25,880 --> 02:54:29,300 Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, like a paper issue. We had a PayPal 3031 02:54:29,300 --> 02:54:34,340 issue. I had. It has to be Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois, 3032 02:54:34,340 --> 02:54:39,080 606. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510 3033 02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:46,180 Dean Roker, 5510 sir. Robertson of two sticks in DOS palos, 3034 02:54:46,180 --> 02:54:49,840 California. Yeah. He came in from dos Paulos, $55 at the 3035 02:54:49,840 --> 02:54:56,080 Albany meetup. Mark Hardwick in Alito, Alito, Texas, 5533 sir, 3036 02:54:56,080 --> 02:55:00,060 recalcitrant. This is crazy. Steve Yes from Santa Rosa. Uh, 3037 02:55:01,140 --> 02:55:06,000 5150, uh. He also, I think he's the one who gave me the book. He 3038 02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:09,060 gave me a book, kind of, what kind of book it was, one of 3039 02:55:09,060 --> 02:55:13,080 these, you know, anti fed, where the government's screwing us. 3040 02:55:13,800 --> 02:55:14,760 Economics, the kind 3041 02:55:14,760 --> 02:55:17,160 Adam Curry: of book you get on a list, a pile of them you get on 3042 02:55:17,160 --> 02:55:19,920 a list for having that book. Well, maybe 3043 02:55:22,080 --> 02:55:25,400 John C Dvorak: us anyway. That's recalci, and he did the meetup. 3044 02:55:25,400 --> 02:55:29,600 So he's, I can't good guy. Compliment him enough. Dean, a 3045 02:55:29,600 --> 02:55:34,520 carrier in Laval, Quebec, $50 long time. Douchebag needs a D 3046 02:55:34,520 --> 02:55:35,360 douche 3047 02:55:36,620 --> 02:55:39,260 Unknown: you've been D douched. So that's 3048 02:55:39,260 --> 02:55:42,100 John C Dvorak: 50 these. Rest of these are all 50s. This came in 3049 02:55:42,400 --> 02:55:46,660 the short list today. Hopefully I'll do better next Thursday. 3050 02:55:46,660 --> 02:55:49,780 Scott lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Luke Olson in Alexandria 3051 02:55:49,780 --> 02:55:53,740 of Virginia. Andrew Alexander in Fredericksburg, Texas. Hey, 3052 02:55:53,800 --> 02:55:57,880 Cory. Hey, who Frederick Andrew Alexander, 3053 02:55:57,939 --> 02:56:00,419 Adam Curry: I don't I don't know. Andrew. Andrew, let's hang 3054 02:56:00,419 --> 02:56:02,999 out at Java Ranch, 3055 02:56:04,500 --> 02:56:07,860 John C Dvorak: Corey Bennett in Denver College. There's 5000 3056 02:56:08,220 --> 02:56:11,820 people in that town, 11,000 there's a lot. Well, there's 3057 02:56:11,820 --> 02:56:13,500 five that doesn't mean there's not 5000 3058 02:56:15,540 --> 02:56:18,660 Adam Curry: Oh, there's no evidence there. There's 5000 3059 02:56:19,860 --> 02:56:23,360 John C Dvorak: there's 5000 that you know, there is 5000 there's 3060 02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:26,960 there's one. Corey Bennett in Denver College, just this is 3061 02:56:26,960 --> 02:56:31,460 what you call parsing four more years. Corey Bennett in Denver, 3062 02:56:31,460 --> 02:56:35,060 Colorado. Leanne Shipley in Covington, Covington, Covington, 3063 02:56:35,240 --> 02:56:39,620 Washington. Sir Jerry wing and Roth in Saugus, California. Ah, 3064 02:56:39,620 --> 02:56:44,860 Dame Abigail, the weird poet who was spelled with a Y. She was at 3065 02:56:44,860 --> 02:56:53,260 the Albany meetup and $50 and Paul best in Bedford UK, 50 and 3066 02:56:53,260 --> 02:56:57,280 he says, enjoyed your banter since discovering you again on 3067 02:56:57,280 --> 02:57:00,040 the Joe another Joe Rogan, laggard 3068 02:57:00,459 --> 02:57:02,819 Adam Curry: man, Joe's got to have me back on the show. 3069 02:57:04,500 --> 02:57:07,560 John C Dvorak: If the lag time is what this is like, what's the 3070 02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:09,180 last time you run a year ago? No 3071 02:57:09,180 --> 02:57:13,320 Adam Curry: longer. It's been, it's been, oh, man, it'll be 3072 02:57:14,220 --> 02:57:17,580 coming up three years, two years, two years, I think. And 3073 02:57:17,580 --> 02:57:19,740 John C Dvorak: now we're getting these, these guys coming in 3074 02:57:19,740 --> 02:57:22,580 late. That's, I find it very strange. Well, it could be just 3075 02:57:22,580 --> 02:57:25,700 random numbers. Thanks for the entertainment and analysis. He 3076 02:57:25,700 --> 02:57:31,100 says, donate some karma to Bitcoin. As a Bitcoin guy, never 3077 02:57:31,100 --> 02:57:35,480 mind forget what I read. These are our groups of tricked you 3078 02:57:35,540 --> 02:57:39,860 are of our well wishers and donors and producers for show 3079 02:57:40,460 --> 02:57:42,980 16, 887. 3080 02:57:44,799 --> 02:57:47,379 Adam Curry: Thank you all so much. And again, thanks everyone 3081 02:57:47,379 --> 02:57:50,259 under 50. We don't mention those names. We don't read them off. 3082 02:57:50,259 --> 02:57:53,439 And we would like everybody to consider, in addition to your 3083 02:57:53,439 --> 02:57:56,679 producership, a sustaining donation. It is very much 3084 02:57:56,679 --> 02:57:59,799 appreciated give us four more years to climate change and 3085 02:57:59,799 --> 02:58:02,159 remember us at no agenda, donations.com. 3086 02:58:09,719 --> 02:58:13,019 Lawrence wolf celebrated on August 8, so it's a belated, but 3087 02:58:13,019 --> 02:58:17,219 Happy belated birthday. Craig Clifford turns 63 today. Sue 3088 02:58:17,279 --> 02:58:20,539 William of West. Bessler Pennsyltucky wishes DC girl a 3089 02:58:20,539 --> 02:58:22,999 happy birthday. It's her birthday today. Hello, DC girl. 3090 02:58:22,999 --> 02:58:27,019 How you doing? Tyler Derrington also celebrating today. And Erie 3091 02:58:27,019 --> 02:58:31,219 curiagi wishes her badass husband, Brian Mickey, a happy 3092 02:58:31,219 --> 02:58:34,459 birthday. He is celebrating tomorrow, the 19th happy 3093 02:58:34,459 --> 02:58:37,039 birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the 3094 02:58:37,039 --> 02:58:42,019 universe. Title changes to 3095 02:58:47,379 --> 02:58:52,419 into title changes, as we heard earlier, Sir Ben nitist UPS his 3096 02:58:52,479 --> 02:58:56,619 quota by bringing us some some gold and some silver. We take it 3097 02:58:56,619 --> 02:58:58,899 all. We accept it all. We appreciate it. He will 3098 02:58:58,899 --> 02:59:03,539 henceforth be known as Sir Ben nitist, duke of San Francisco, 3099 02:59:03,539 --> 02:59:05,879 man, when you hit that Grand Duke, then you get a jingle. You 3100 02:59:05,879 --> 02:59:08,279 know that, right? I'm just saying that's the grand dukes. 3101 02:59:08,279 --> 02:59:10,679 We love hearing from our grand dukes. Haven't heard from a 3102 02:59:10,679 --> 02:59:14,459 couple of them. And I'm very concerned about Sir Kevin 3103 02:59:14,459 --> 02:59:17,519 McLaughlin, Archduke of Luna and lover of America, and boobs. I'm 3104 02:59:17,519 --> 02:59:20,599 concerned about him. This is not like him. I want a wellness 3105 02:59:20,599 --> 02:59:23,479 check done. I'm concerned. Can't say it any other way. 3106 02:59:23,900 --> 02:59:26,420 John C Dvorak: Want to make sure that I'm sure he has friends who 3107 02:59:26,420 --> 02:59:28,700 listen to the show that can check in on him. Please do it. 3108 02:59:28,700 --> 02:59:31,040 So make sure he's okay. That's all could have been the could 3109 02:59:31,040 --> 02:59:33,680 have been, Debbie, well, we just want 3110 02:59:33,680 --> 02:59:35,840 Adam Curry: to make sure, Debbie, so I want to make sure 3111 02:59:35,840 --> 02:59:38,360 you're okay. Hey, we got two nights to bring up onto the 3112 02:59:38,360 --> 02:59:40,960 podium. This is always a great celebration. John. I have my 3113 02:59:40,960 --> 02:59:45,880 sword here. Thank you very much. Craig Clifford and Lawrence 3114 02:59:45,880 --> 02:59:50,380 Wolf, gentlemen, come on down. Both of you today become 3115 02:59:50,380 --> 02:59:53,800 knighted and henceforth knights of the no agenda Roundtable. I'm 3116 02:59:53,800 --> 02:59:57,640 very proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Craig, Knight of the 3117 02:59:57,640 --> 03:00:01,980 rolling hills of Oxbridge and. Sir Lawrence of dystopia, 3118 03:00:01,980 --> 03:00:04,680 gentlemen for you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and 3119 03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:09,240 Chardonnay Malbec and malabars. A bottle of 2019 CAVIS Cabernet 3120 03:00:09,240 --> 03:00:12,480 Sauvignon, rib steak cooked medium rare and a garlic mashed 3121 03:00:12,480 --> 03:00:15,840 potatoes. Along with that for your pleasure, geishas and sake, 3122 03:00:15,900 --> 03:00:18,720 bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale 3123 03:00:18,720 --> 03:00:22,280 and gerbils. We got breast milk and pablum. We got Ruben, sluman 3124 03:00:22,280 --> 03:00:27,980 and Rose and mutton and Mead. That mutton and Mead is good, 3125 03:00:27,980 --> 03:00:31,760 man. The meat is a very good batch, actually, that test, 3126 03:00:31,760 --> 03:00:31,880 yeah, 3127 03:00:31,879 --> 03:00:34,819 John C Dvorak: but donate to it. The fat is what stinks 3128 03:00:35,060 --> 03:00:35,840 Adam Curry: on the mutton. 3129 03:00:36,320 --> 03:00:37,400 John C Dvorak: Yeah, mutton, 3130 03:00:37,400 --> 03:00:41,260 Adam Curry: but, but the meat, the meat, it takes away all the 3131 03:00:41,260 --> 03:00:43,960 fatty tastes. If you don't like that, gentlemen, go to 3132 03:00:43,960 --> 03:00:46,720 nogentrings.com everybody can check out their website. You can 3133 03:00:46,720 --> 03:00:49,180 see the beautiful signet ring that we send out to Knights and 3134 03:00:49,180 --> 03:00:52,240 Dames who support the no agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or 3135 03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:55,720 more. No tote bags, no nonsense here, no you get a ring. You can 3136 03:00:55,720 --> 03:00:57,940 hit someone in the mouth. It'll actually say, hit him in the 3137 03:00:57,940 --> 03:01:01,620 mouth in Latin. Or you conceal your important correspondence 3138 03:01:01,620 --> 03:01:05,100 with it. We give you some sealing wax, multiple sticks of 3139 03:01:05,100 --> 03:01:07,740 it, and as always, accompanied by a certificate of 3140 03:01:07,740 --> 03:01:10,680 authenticity, welcome gentlemen to the roundtable. And as 3141 03:01:10,680 --> 03:01:13,320 always, we thank all of the Knights and Dames of the no 3142 03:01:13,320 --> 03:01:14,760 agenda roundtable. You 3143 03:01:23,180 --> 03:01:27,980 I unfortunately, I was prepping yesterday until like 435 3144 03:01:28,760 --> 03:01:32,000 o'clock, so there was no way I could get to the float meet 3145 03:01:32,840 --> 03:01:36,200 which Baron Scott did in San Marcos. But I know that a lot of 3146 03:01:36,200 --> 03:01:38,720 people went, and I'm sure they had a very good time. Hopefully 3147 03:01:38,720 --> 03:01:42,400 we'll have a meet up report from him for the next show on 3148 03:01:42,460 --> 03:01:46,420 Thursday. In the meantime, we have a report from Rockford, 3149 03:01:46,480 --> 03:01:49,360 Illinois. This is the Deutsch bags meetup. Dame 3150 03:01:49,360 --> 03:01:52,360 Unknown: anonymous got us. Here is the Rockford meetup. Deutsche 3151 03:01:52,360 --> 03:01:56,380 bags in the USA. Is a successful time with good friends, good 3152 03:01:56,380 --> 03:01:57,460 drinks. Here we 3153 03:01:57,459 --> 03:02:01,859 go and small amygdalas. This is former douchebag ray in the 3154 03:02:01,859 --> 03:02:06,119 morning, Adam and John, we got kicked out by some spooks, and 3155 03:02:06,119 --> 03:02:10,439 we're sitting outside. But have a nice little hooey. Hooey. It's 3156 03:02:10,439 --> 03:02:11,699 great, people. Great food. 3157 03:02:12,000 --> 03:02:16,320 Kyle Baron of the north of North Valley of foxes. John, get the 3158 03:02:16,320 --> 03:02:17,880 Cadillac plan. Adam, I 3159 03:02:17,880 --> 03:02:18,540 love you, brother. 3160 03:02:18,600 --> 03:02:20,280 This is John the UN deducible. 3161 03:02:20,340 --> 03:02:23,660 This is Dame Julie bunny here in the morning. In the morning, 3162 03:02:25,219 --> 03:02:28,039 Adam Curry: a nice little mix. There some good people, the 3163 03:02:28,039 --> 03:02:32,539 Deutsch Deutsch bags in the USA. Meet Up. Only one meet up taking 3164 03:02:32,539 --> 03:02:35,779 place today, the hidden gem burger shack edition in tays 3165 03:02:35,779 --> 03:02:40,419 burger shack that's North Kansas City, Missouri, that is underway 3166 03:02:40,419 --> 03:02:43,839 as we speak. Sir Spencer, The Wolf of Kansas, who doesn't know 3167 03:02:43,839 --> 03:02:46,899 him, will be hosting that coming up in the month of August. 3168 03:02:46,899 --> 03:02:50,019 What's left we have Rogers, Arkansas, Monrovia, California, 3169 03:02:50,019 --> 03:02:52,599 Alexandria, Virginia, spooksville, Spearfish, South 3170 03:02:52,599 --> 03:02:56,259 Dakota, London, UK, in the 25th Keene, New Hampshire, Tulsa, 3171 03:02:56,259 --> 03:02:59,499 Oklahoma. Alpharetta, Georgia, Sharpsburg, Maryland, Medford 3172 03:02:59,499 --> 03:03:02,039 lakes, New Jersey, Goleta, California, Raleigh, North 3173 03:03:02,039 --> 03:03:04,859 Carolina, Aurora, Illinois, Garden City, Idaho, St 3174 03:03:04,859 --> 03:03:08,399 Augustine, Florida, Tucson, Arizona, Bedford, Texas, North 3175 03:03:08,399 --> 03:03:11,159 Charleston. Now into September, North Charleston, South 3176 03:03:11,159 --> 03:03:16,559 Carolina, Sacramento, California is on the list for November. So 3177 03:03:16,559 --> 03:03:20,959 many meetups. Tina and I were talking about doing a meetup 3178 03:03:20,959 --> 03:03:23,539 somewhere. I got to think about, we were, there was some 3179 03:03:23,539 --> 03:03:27,199 traveling. Oh, I, you know, I, I didn't know that cotton gin 3180 03:03:27,499 --> 03:03:32,239 actually lives in Plymouth. And we were there, and he didn't, he 3181 03:03:32,239 --> 03:03:34,759 didn't tell me, yeah, we could have done a little mini meetup. 3182 03:03:34,759 --> 03:03:37,939 It would have been great. He could have, it was fun driving 3183 03:03:37,939 --> 03:03:40,659 through, uh, Plymouth and saying, We're in Massachusetts, 3184 03:03:40,659 --> 03:03:46,179 nuts, and boy, were we ever even cotton gin says, Yeah, we're 3185 03:03:46,179 --> 03:03:49,719 crazy over here, that's the no agenda meetups. You can go to 3186 03:03:49,719 --> 03:03:52,539 any one of these on the list. There's no entry fee. Usually 3187 03:03:52,539 --> 03:03:55,539 it's in a bar, some cool hangout, sometimes a pizza 3188 03:03:55,539 --> 03:03:58,599 restaurant. Sometimes it's somebody's home. You will meet 3189 03:03:58,599 --> 03:04:02,459 people and children from other lands that you never have would 3190 03:04:02,459 --> 03:04:04,739 have encountered otherwise. We all have one thing in common. 3191 03:04:04,739 --> 03:04:07,679 You were all part of no agenda nation. It's a good time 3192 03:04:07,679 --> 03:04:10,619 guaranteed. Never had a negative report, ever a fight has never 3193 03:04:10,619 --> 03:04:14,639 broken out at a no agenda meetup that I'm aware of. So that's 3194 03:04:14,639 --> 03:04:19,979 something to say. Go to no agenda meetups.com. Go search 3195 03:04:19,979 --> 03:04:23,179 for a town near you, if you can't find one, here's a 3196 03:04:23,179 --> 03:04:26,959 thought. Start your own meetup. No agenda. Meetups.com. Easy and 3197 03:04:26,959 --> 03:04:27,679 always a party. 3198 03:04:40,000 --> 03:04:43,840 Unknown: Gonna be where everybody feels the same, 3199 03:04:45,700 --> 03:04:46,480 it's like a party. 3200 03:04:48,040 --> 03:04:54,760 Adam Curry: There's like a party, okay? ISOs, we always 3201 03:04:54,760 --> 03:04:58,180 like to select our end of show. ISO. Do it out in the open. Show 3202 03:04:58,180 --> 03:05:03,180 you how the i. How the sausages. Sausages is made. Sausages is 3203 03:05:03,180 --> 03:05:07,260 made. I have 123, I have five, five, 3204 03:05:07,320 --> 03:05:08,400 John C Dvorak: then you go first. None 3205 03:05:08,399 --> 03:05:09,419 Adam Curry: of them good, probably, 3206 03:05:09,600 --> 03:05:10,980 Unknown: it's hard to explain. 3207 03:05:12,060 --> 03:05:14,760 Adam Curry: Okay, I'm on the Biden tip here. Nothing, 3208 03:05:14,760 --> 03:05:15,660 Unknown: nothing, nothing 3209 03:05:16,740 --> 03:05:18,780 Adam Curry: kind of like that, or 3210 03:05:18,839 --> 03:05:23,119 Unknown: its counterpart, economy, economy, economy, no. 3211 03:05:23,180 --> 03:05:24,320 Adam Curry: And then we always have, 3212 03:05:24,379 --> 03:05:25,879 Unknown: due to climate change, 3213 03:05:26,299 --> 03:05:29,119 Adam Curry: there's that one, there's that one. You guess you 3214 03:05:29,119 --> 03:05:30,199 have better ones, huh? 3215 03:05:31,340 --> 03:05:35,660 John C Dvorak: I think so. Okay, so let's start with a I had to 3216 03:05:35,660 --> 03:05:37,880 do one of these because you do them all the time. So I did. 3217 03:05:37,880 --> 03:05:38,540 Mine is 100 3218 03:05:39,500 --> 03:05:39,980 Unknown: 100% 3219 03:05:41,299 --> 03:05:44,679 John C Dvorak: okay, it's out of the way. Now, you got a little 3220 03:05:44,679 --> 03:05:46,659 laughing thing here, he, he, a little 3221 03:05:46,660 --> 03:05:50,620 Adam Curry: he, he, okay, ah, you cut it off. That's too bad. 3222 03:05:51,040 --> 03:05:54,220 John C Dvorak: That was no problem. Okay, we got, here's an 3223 03:05:54,220 --> 03:05:55,060 oh my gosh, 3224 03:05:55,060 --> 03:05:57,880 Unknown: oh my gosh, yo, good one. Yeah, I'm 3225 03:05:57,880 --> 03:05:58,660 Adam Curry: liking that. 3226 03:05:59,260 --> 03:06:00,900 John C Dvorak: That's a good one. And then this one, which I 3227 03:06:00,900 --> 03:06:04,140 think is interesting, because it kind of applies to the show. Oh, 3228 03:06:04,140 --> 03:06:04,800 thank you both. It 3229 03:06:04,800 --> 03:06:05,400 Unknown: was so fun. 3230 03:06:07,080 --> 03:06:08,640 Adam Curry: I don't like the music. I like, 3231 03:06:08,700 --> 03:06:09,900 Unknown: Oh my gosh. 3232 03:06:10,260 --> 03:06:13,020 Adam Curry: I think, I think that that's a clear winner. Oh 3233 03:06:13,020 --> 03:06:15,600 my gosh, is the winner we'll be playing at the end of the show. 3234 03:06:15,600 --> 03:06:18,120 But first, it is time once again, for John's last 3235 03:06:19,080 --> 03:06:20,100 Unknown: for you and me. 3236 03:06:22,020 --> 03:06:24,140 Just kidding, with JCD. And 3237 03:06:25,459 --> 03:06:26,239 sometimes I don't, 3238 03:06:26,959 --> 03:06:30,799 Adam Curry: yeah, time for the tip of the day. People love this 3239 03:06:30,799 --> 03:06:36,559 item. They learn something. It's often it's a tip that improves 3240 03:06:36,559 --> 03:06:39,259 your life. It really is something that you can only get 3241 03:06:39,259 --> 03:06:41,919 here the best podcast in the universe. 3242 03:06:43,600 --> 03:06:45,580 John C Dvorak: Well, this is a screwball one. This one's 3243 03:06:45,580 --> 03:06:46,600 actually Mimi's, 3244 03:06:46,660 --> 03:06:48,520 Adam Curry: unlike all the other ones, really. 3245 03:06:49,660 --> 03:06:52,180 John C Dvorak: And she reminded me of this, because I've gotten 3246 03:06:52,180 --> 03:06:55,000 into these things too. It's a product that you get it on 3247 03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:57,460 Amazon, you can get it all over the place, but it's a product. 3248 03:06:57,460 --> 03:07:02,220 It's a sponge substitute, because it's not a sponge, but 3249 03:07:02,220 --> 03:07:05,580 it looks like it acts like a sponge, but it's not a sponge. 3250 03:07:06,120 --> 03:07:09,420 It's a scrubber scrubbing device called, and you could look them 3251 03:07:09,420 --> 03:07:12,480 up there. I think they're a little overpriced. I think 3252 03:07:12,480 --> 03:07:14,280 they're like, three or four bucks each, but they, they 3253 03:07:14,400 --> 03:07:17,220 don't, you know, you buy these, these different kinds of 3254 03:07:17,220 --> 03:07:20,100 scrubbing devices, and the sponge on one side and scrubber 3255 03:07:20,100 --> 03:07:24,200 on the and they A week later, they stink to something. They 3256 03:07:24,260 --> 03:07:27,860 they make them so they go bad, they go rotten. That doesn't 3257 03:07:27,860 --> 03:07:29,540 happen with these devices. 3258 03:07:29,720 --> 03:07:30,620 Adam Curry: Lessons, 3259 03:07:31,760 --> 03:07:33,560 John C Dvorak: yeah, stinker. Lessons, 3260 03:07:34,820 --> 03:07:37,400 Adam Curry: scrub daddy. Scrub daddy. 3261 03:07:38,719 --> 03:07:40,899 John C Dvorak: Get the scrub daddy and see what you think 3262 03:07:40,899 --> 03:07:45,579 these scrub daddies are killer, especially if you have nonstick 3263 03:07:45,819 --> 03:07:50,319 pots and pans or anything, actually, any sort of ceramic 3264 03:07:50,559 --> 03:07:54,879 wear. These things are terrific. This is an amazing product, 3265 03:07:54,939 --> 03:07:58,479 scrub daddy. And they're about three or four bucks a pop. 3266 03:07:59,020 --> 03:08:01,860 Adam Curry: You know what? I have a lot of things to scrub. I 3267 03:08:01,860 --> 03:08:03,960 think I'll try a scrub. Daddy myself. 3268 03:08:04,799 --> 03:08:06,059 John C Dvorak: You won't regret it. The 3269 03:08:06,060 --> 03:08:09,120 Unknown: world's gone mad. But don't you worry, it's time for 3270 03:08:09,120 --> 03:08:11,760 Tip of the Day with Helen curry, 3271 03:08:11,820 --> 03:08:15,240 Adam Curry: oh and John Cena vorac, sorry. Wrong jingle. 3272 03:08:15,720 --> 03:08:16,200 Unknown: It happens. 3273 03:08:17,700 --> 03:08:19,440 Adam Curry: All right, everybody, that is it for your 3274 03:08:19,440 --> 03:08:22,700 media deconstruction. For today, we would like you to consider 3275 03:08:22,700 --> 03:08:26,060 supporting the show with some value. If you hear, you listen 3276 03:08:26,060 --> 03:08:34,700 to over three hours of premium content, pure premium, high 3277 03:08:34,760 --> 03:08:39,980 octane content up next on the stream. If you are 3278 03:08:39,980 --> 03:08:44,320 listening@trollroom.io which you should or using that modern 3279 03:08:44,320 --> 03:08:48,340 podcast app. Oh, it's the podcasting 2.0 show. Learn about 3280 03:08:48,340 --> 03:08:54,460 the latest in podcasting. Always hilarious. And we have end of 3281 03:08:54,460 --> 03:09:00,280 show mixes from well, we have Redux from clip as Neil Jones, 3282 03:09:00,280 --> 03:09:03,360 he did this one two years ago for the monkeypox. I'm sorry. M 3283 03:09:03,360 --> 03:09:08,460 pox. David kecter returns and Darren O'Neill swings us all the 3284 03:09:08,460 --> 03:09:11,340 way out into the end of your weekend. Thank you very much for 3285 03:09:11,340 --> 03:09:15,600 being here. Coming you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country 3286 03:09:15,780 --> 03:09:18,840 with 11,000 people, Fredericksburg, Texas, FEMA 3287 03:09:18,840 --> 03:09:21,920 Region, number six in the morning. Everybody. I'm Adam 3288 03:09:21,920 --> 03:09:22,760 curry, and 3289 03:09:22,760 --> 03:09:25,340 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain. 3290 03:09:25,760 --> 03:09:27,440 I'm John C Dvorak. We return 3291 03:09:27,440 --> 03:09:29,060 Adam Curry: on Thursday with more of your media 3292 03:09:29,060 --> 03:09:33,380 deconstruction. Remember us at dvorak.org/na, know it to the 3293 03:09:33,380 --> 03:09:38,060 donations.com Until then, adios, mofos. A hooey. Hooey, first and 3294 03:09:38,060 --> 03:09:41,140 Unknown: foremost. Let's just start from the beginning. How 3295 03:09:41,140 --> 03:09:43,780 exactly is monkeypox spread? 3296 03:09:43,840 --> 03:09:49,120 According to the CDC, 98% of monkeypox cases are in men. 93% 3297 03:09:50,080 --> 03:09:53,920 among men who reported recent sexual contact with other 3298 03:09:53,920 --> 03:09:55,720 men. Look The CDC says the vast 3299 03:09:55,719 --> 03:09:59,559 majority of cases have involved men having sex with other men. 3300 03:09:59,559 --> 03:10:03,299 But it. Late Friday night, Illinois officials reported that 3301 03:10:03,359 --> 03:10:05,759 a daycare worker tested positive. 3302 03:10:05,760 --> 03:10:06,960 CBC, the warning 3303 03:10:06,960 --> 03:10:09,540 over the weekend about children under the age of eight now to 3304 03:10:09,540 --> 03:10:09,660 the 3305 03:10:09,660 --> 03:10:12,960 monkeypox outbreak spreading in the US. A seventh child has now 3306 03:10:12,960 --> 03:10:13,800 been infected for 3307 03:10:13,800 --> 03:10:17,220 a suspected case of human to dog monkeypox transmission. It 3308 03:10:17,220 --> 03:10:20,240 happened in France. First and foremost, let's just start from 3309 03:10:20,240 --> 03:10:24,620 the beginning, how exactly is monkeypox spread? Spread 3310 03:10:24,680 --> 03:10:27,260 well, as much as many people don't want to accept this. It is 3311 03:10:27,260 --> 03:10:30,320 primarily a sexually transmitted infection. When 3312 03:10:30,320 --> 03:10:33,140 we first get it, we started to get those reports. And then it 3313 03:10:33,140 --> 03:10:36,080 wasn't just cats. It wasn't just dogs. We saw it with other 3314 03:10:36,080 --> 03:10:37,400 animals as well. We have 3315 03:10:37,460 --> 03:10:40,600 an outbreak that has spread around the world, rapidly 3316 03:10:41,800 --> 03:10:44,800 growing concern over the global spread of monkeypox 3317 03:10:44,800 --> 03:10:45,940 spreading. Spreading. 3318 03:10:47,080 --> 03:10:49,360 The nation's monkeypox outbreak is spreading. 3319 03:11:00,160 --> 03:11:04,740 A lot. A loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before 3320 03:11:04,740 --> 03:11:09,120 the pandemic. Ground beef is up almost 50% 3321 03:11:10,860 --> 03:11:12,540 I'm Donald Trump and I have Ruth 3322 03:11:19,379 --> 03:11:23,419 as best. This is the Maduro plant, Venezuela. Maduro plant. 3323 03:11:24,259 --> 03:11:29,419 It will cause rationing, hunger skyrocketing, and we got the 3324 03:11:29,419 --> 03:11:29,839 best 3325 03:11:29,840 --> 03:11:32,480 John C Dvorak: commercial of the week, and we didn't do anything. 3326 03:11:32,600 --> 03:11:37,340 Unknown: We just played her. But here's the problem, the things 3327 03:11:37,340 --> 03:11:41,200 that she said yesterday don't work. They have never worked. 3328 03:11:41,560 --> 03:11:44,740 They've never been used many times before in many other 3329 03:11:44,740 --> 03:11:47,980 countries, they've never worked. They've just never worked. It's 3330 03:11:47,980 --> 03:11:51,820 a communist. It's what her father a Marxist. He was a 3331 03:11:51,820 --> 03:11:55,300 Marxist. It's what her father taught her. 3332 03:11:56,079 --> 03:12:00,239 When I am elected president, I will make it a top priority to 3333 03:12:00,239 --> 03:12:04,499 bring down costs and increase economic security for all 3334 03:12:04,499 --> 03:12:10,619 Americans. As President, I will take on the high costs that 3335 03:12:10,619 --> 03:12:20,179 matter most to most Americans, Like the cost of food You you're 3336 03:12:20,179 --> 03:12:20,419 really 3337 03:12:42,620 --> 03:12:42,980 proud of 3338 03:13:00,000 --> 03:13:00,660 brain policies. 3339 03:13:07,799 --> 03:13:08,579 Want to say you don't 3340 03:13:13,980 --> 03:13:14,520 have a brain. You 3341 03:13:17,700 --> 03:13:22,980 don't have a brain. You 3342 03:13:37,280 --> 03:13:37,880 have a brain.org/n 3343 03:13:40,400 --> 03:13:43,600 a, oh, my gosh. I.