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John C Dvorak: No, just load up.

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Unknown: Adam curry. John C
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Adam Curry: September 12, 2024
this is your award winning

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Adam Curry: We are hyperscalers,
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the heart of the Texas Hill
Country, right here in FEMA

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Region. Number six in the
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curry and

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're all

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asking the question as to why
did MTV become a station ground

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for Satanists. I'm John C
Dvorak. It's

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Unknown: Craig Vaughn

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Adam Curry: and buzzkill in the
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John C Dvorak: I caught it by
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Adam Curry: First of all, what a
who's doing the scheduling over

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there? What a dumb, dumb timing
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John C Dvorak: Well, like I
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didn't I was just going through
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ran into the span onto the
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subtitled to try to learn a
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just caught the end of it. It
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Adam Curry: here's a good idea,
let's do a big award show with

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's pretty
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Adam Curry: i could not this the
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something years, I just I could
not watch, but I have no best

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John C Dvorak: part. What did I
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Adam Curry: this is, this is why
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you know what to expect? It's
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Actually, I think I I decided
not to watch when I read this

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article from CNBC, when viewers
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which, by the way, that's,
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for me, stuck on my craw. But
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would say VMAs, and then the
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Yeah, that's a burn. You have to
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can't say VMAs. Oh, interesting.
They wouldn't let us say

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John C Dvorak: that. Actually, I
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before I forget that when I
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thought it was the adult video
movie award because I did the

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outfits. The outfit now scantly
glad that was a show

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Adam Curry: back in the day the
AVN avns, yeah, with the same

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wasn't that same time as Comdex,
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Adam Curry: yeah, honey, I
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year. It's really important, you
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days. That's always better.
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beginning. Don't need the
keynotes. As part of a new

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partnership between Paramount
global the parent company of

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cable and TV network MTV, and
shoppable advertising company

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shop sense AI viewers will be
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seeing on screen using the
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which will launch at the start
of the award show. I was done

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like, no, no, I don't think so.
I don't think so.

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John C Dvorak: You have to watch
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Adam Curry: know, and then I'd
report, and it's a grumbling,

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grumbling the whole while. Yeah,
hey, guess what? Satanism.

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Satanism. Again. Guess what?
Everybody, Satanism. So I got

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tired of that. You know, we're
in this I did have a for the

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first time in many, many years.
I had a moment of weakness. The

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other day. I said the Ts, I
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tired of the loop. You know, the
media has just become so

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predictable, so dumb, and you
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to figure it out. You know, it's
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you know, before I do something
drastic? Don't you ever have

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that feeling? And we're just in
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John C Dvorak: It always he has
enough. It's like, it's like a

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stamp collecting,

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Adam Curry: podcasting. Just
like stamp collecting, yeah?

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Another thing chicks think is
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John C Dvorak: yeah. The chicks
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and the stamp collectors, the
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action figures, Star

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Adam Curry: Trek action figures,
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John C Dvorak: Trek,
specifically, chick magnet.

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Adam Curry: so I interrupted you
about the poop loop you were

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John C Dvorak: I don't know what
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Adam Curry: Well, you were
saying the news has enough, and

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then you said, stamp collecting.
Guys said, Don't you get tired

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of the of the cycle of this
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John C Dvorak: find it. It's
interesting because they, they.

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They're not standing still.
They're always doing new stuff.

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I have a number of debate clips
here, and to dig into the

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deconstruction to find these
little idiosyncratic things,

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let's talk about the debate.
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Adam Curry: me start for one
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get to get your clips. Clips.
You've got clips. Yes, here's

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how the meeting went. Mr.
President, you were so effective

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on the previous debate. You were
calm and collected. More of

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that, please.

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Unknown: They're eating the
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Adam Curry: Mr. President,
that's not exactly what we

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John C Dvorak: That's great
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did you think? Who won?

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Adam Curry: Well, I have, I have
a different thoughts than who

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won. If you want to hear them,
I'll tell you what I thought.

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First of all, I never
underestimate President Trump's

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ability to effectively
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people. You know, he's a UFC,
he's a showbiz guy. He

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understands, he understands the
American psyche. But this was

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not his arena. This was not a
debate. This was not a UFC

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Smackdown. This was a courtroom.
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court, and I recognize this
this, it's a very uneasy

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experience when the other side,
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civil case, or if a prosecutor
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case against you, even if
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you question yourself. And I
remember this so well from my

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MTV domain name case, people
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know, because it was very clear
to me how that went down. They

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said, Oh, you know, you can, you
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got the AOL keyword. We're not
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exactly. We're not interested.
And and then the the Viacom

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lawyer stood up and they
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truth from their side and and it
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watching this, you know this,
this courtroom drama was not a

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not a debate by any stretch of
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This is what happens when you're

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in a courtroom. So when the
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a different perspective, or if
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respond. So this trolling that
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an expert at this, because she's
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he was unprepared for that, and
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and we were the jury. We were
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our version of the truth, and
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as you do in the jury box. So
her gestures, her glances,

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looking straight at the
defendant, all courtroom drama,

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but this, of course, isn't Judge
Judy, it wasn't a debate. This

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is a representation, actually,
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today. And in this case, we had
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moderators, and we the neuter
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sidelines. So afterwards, and
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came from, all the discussion
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culture war economy. You know,
cable news, big podcast names

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like code Bongino and Megyn
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always but they felt gypped.
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trust in the real American
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economy, who are struggling, who
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about the economy, repetition
works about immigration, yes,

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they're eating the dogs. I think
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today, but around the world, but
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babies. We got dog tours. Oh,
someone's kid got raped and

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killed. Tough luck. What they're
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that actually worked and war. So
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for the for for the for the
talkers. Kamala Harris did a

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phenomenal job as a prosecutor.
She didn't really say much, or

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didn't say anything. Explain
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John C Dvorak: A lot. She did a
great job of that. But

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Adam Curry: would you agree that
this was a she's a prosecutor,

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and this is what she has done
her entire life, and Trump was

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not prepared. And quite
honestly, I don't think you can

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prepare to be in the witness box
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Just look at how Trump is in the
courtroom. It's very difficult.

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And really, as a witness, you
had your lawyer can do stuff for

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you, ie your surrogates, but you
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that case. And so, for that
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think it's on Trump's side,
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Can. Consistently, He showed
that he was angry if there's a

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win for the what I call Mo, and
I just came up with this, the

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culture war economy. It was
Harris. So, you know, not

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really. And also, I'm not so
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changes anyone's opinion.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that I
think you're right. And that

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analysis, which I've not heard,
I have a couple gotchas in my

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stuff too, but that is
excellent. I think you probably

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nailed it the I think the public
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everyone saw it as Harris. And I
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Jay and her husband with your
church group, with a church

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Adam Curry: Oh, so you were
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John C Dvorak: and so they were
all, you know, just pleased this

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punch about the whole thing. But
the funny thing was, we had it

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on tape delay so we could stop
it. And JC, actually, in the

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middle of he was here in the
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before, as the dog thing came
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dog thing and the Haitians and
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lecture as during pause on how
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in Haiti, and it's not uncommon
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don't think it's a big deal. And
he had a lot of background

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information on this, and I
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true. That is absolutely true,
absolutely true. And so it's not

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without outside the realm or
crazy talk to think that this

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could be going on in
Springfield. There's a lot of

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evidence for it. Now, my clips
are about the lying on on one

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side or the other, mostly on the
parasite. She was a big liar. Oh

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yeah, but, but the but I would
say that the summary that right

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after the event, Rachel Maddow
and I have the clip, uh, did a

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because this is interesting. I
recorded this thing on I on

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YouTube video, I click, I I
agree, and it showed the check

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mark. I recorded it on ABC, NBC,
Fox and MSNBC, you were going

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Unknown: Oh, isn't that
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John C Dvorak: I thought so. But
okay, I can, because I wanted

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the fox one, but I the MSNBC one
was fine. That gave me the

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Rachel thing at the end. So
Rachel Maddow comes out and does

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a summary, and I think this was
the summary that most Democrats

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as the way Democrats thought. I
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summarizing from the Democrat
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wait, wait, exactly what was,
what was being thought. Now I

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want to mention, before you play
this, I don't know why. First of

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all, we noticed a couple of
things. One, when they first

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showed her, she had huge bags
under her eyes. Yeah, that were

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like, What happened to this
woman? And then they fit

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somebody, I guess, saw it in on
the monitor, and they went out

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with the makeup person and
sprayed them. She looked

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terrible, and she was almost in
tears, as she's giving this

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little spiel here, she's like
crying, almost crying, for some

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reason, she gets this kind of
maudlin style of presentation.

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She's like borderline in tears.
I have no idea why, but here we

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Unknown: could not have two more
different candidates with two

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more different approaches to the
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television executive once tell
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know about a live event on
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that, with the sound off. And if
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debate, which I'm sure nobody
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Adam Curry: how I watch Rachel
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absolutely right. Yes, very
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Unknown: And if you had the
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I'm sure nobody did. What you
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looking physically hunched,
angry, squinting, I never saw

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the whites of his eyes. The
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constantly interrupting himself,
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but being unable to finish a
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very angry, very negative and
very tired. In contrast, Kamala

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Harris appeared to be sort of
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by him. The two shot of him
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having seeming be having
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words out, certainly squeezing
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just looked at him, absolutely
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going. I think that visual may
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anything that was said. That
said, Boy, what was said? Trump,

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repeatedly coming back to the
same lines over and over. Over

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again about world crime rates
being low because not being the

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explanation for America having
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strange things, like all
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overturned. He said that it is
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United States. He insisted that
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about eating dogs, that was one
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debate, saying he saw it on
television. So therefore he

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knows it's true, and so
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about it can't be true. Kamala
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plan her campaign, but also kept
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. There was a
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And my theme here is going to be
lie. You are what, uh, I am,

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what I say you are,

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Adam Curry: what yourself be,
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John C Dvorak: was evident in
the lie that she had in there.

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In the last 10 seconds, she told
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Adam Curry: it to me, it was
all, what? What did she say?

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John C Dvorak: She said that the
police had denied that there

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were dog eating

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Adam Curry: dogs. Yeah, the
police, I have body cam footage

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of police in Springfield, it's
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John C Dvorak: all seen that.
Well, not everybody, not

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Adam Curry: Let me just 24
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people have heard it. Please
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Unknown: What did you do?

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Why'd you kill the cat? Did you
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now? Why'd you kill it? Did you
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up and she was just laying there
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you see her eating it? She was
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call the Humane Society see if
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Adam Curry: Did did JC and his
cat analysis of Haitians? Did he

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bring up the voodoo and
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there's, there's that too in
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John C Dvorak: yeah, there's a
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and she was referring to David
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the dog speech. And David Muir
specifically, and did it more

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than once, I think twice, at
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manager. Yes, the city manager
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head of police, it's not the
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anything, no, that would have
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manager, is basically a
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sure that the city runs, uh,
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things like that. He wouldn't
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this extent that they were
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up, I guess somebody at ABC
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Rachel twisted that to say the
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Adam Curry: Oh, surprise.

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John C Dvorak: So let's listen
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funny. I have two. I have the
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Trump and his dog. Now I have to
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that not Rachel the that Kamala
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mugging. And I thought she if
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she won. But then as I started
getting doing the clips and

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taking chunks and not looking at
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reminded me a little bit of the
Kennedy Nixon debates, and I'll

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go back in history, because it
was talked about a lot. If you

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watched it on TV, there was they
did two polls. People who

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watched it on TV thought Kennedy
won, and people who listened on

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the radio thought Nixon won. Ah
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Adam Curry: I remember this.
This is a big deal. And

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John C Dvorak: when you start
listening to it, and just

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listening to the clips, or even
seeing just clips, even though

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you can't see some visuals,
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Adam Curry: that's what that's
what I mean by all of his little

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nuggets that he kept repeating,
those are the ones he

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John C Dvorak: had a lot of gems
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which is the most interesting,
because it was the most

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outrageous and got the most
attention, was actually quite

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good. And the way he did it, I
can imagine his handlers going

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nuts about it. But at the same
time, if you listen to these

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clips just by themselves, like
we're gonna do now, there's, I

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got the front end of it and the
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it's nuts. I think it's genius.
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associate there to interrupt him
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that that makes it worse, but
let's play these,

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Unknown: and I'm going to
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unusual, and I'm going to invite
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Trump's rallies, because it's a
really interesting thing to

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watch. You will see during the
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about fictional characters like
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about when Mills cause cancer.
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that people start leaving his
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and boredom. I. And I will tell
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hear him talk about is you. You
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your needs, your dreams and your
needs and your desires. And I'll

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tell you I believe you deserve a
president who actually puts you

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first, and I pledge to you that
I will first. Let me

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respond this to the rallies she
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People don't go to her rallies.
There's no reason to go this,

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Adam Curry: by the way. That
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by her, and she got him to
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John C Dvorak: well, actually, I
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Hayes had an analysis of all her
uh resp, and I thought it was

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pretty good. I didn't clip it,
but he did say that she was

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doing binary responses, where
she say one thing and then troll

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Trump as a one two punch, and he
claims it worked. I think it

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Adam Curry: It worked with with
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they like,
they love to give him crap about

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that. Didn't work

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Adam Curry: with you disrespect
the military. He never took that

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bait. And she tried it maybe
five times. She kept trying,

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John C Dvorak: It did work once,
when he went on about how that

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he had fired these people, and
then they, they turned on him.

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Adam Curry: she was, you know
what she was calling she was

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talking about, oh yeah. She

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John C Dvorak: was trying. John
Kelly, is the is the bet is the

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bad actor. The guy was a creep.
Anyway, if you look at his

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background, let's continue. She
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Unknown: people started leaving.
People don't go to her rallies.

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There's no reason to go. And the
people that do go, she's busting

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them in and paying them to be
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different light. So she can't
talk about that. People don't

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leave my rallies. We have the
biggest rallies, the most

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incredible rallies in the
history. This is where

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Adam Curry: Tina threw up her
hands stop doing that. This is,

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this is where the jury in the
jury box is like, what are you

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doing

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Unknown: politics? That's
because people want to take

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their country back. Our country
is being lost. We're a failing

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nation, and it happened three
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What's going on here? You're
going to end up in world war

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three, just to go into another
subject, what they have done to

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our country by allowing these
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to come into our country and
look at what's happening to the

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towns all over the United
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want to talk it's not going to
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of towns don't want to talk
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embarrassed by it. In
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dogs, the people that came in,
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eating they're eating the pets
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I just want to clarify here. You
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ABC News did reach out to the
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there have been no credible
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pets being harmed, injured or
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immigrant community, people on
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here, this is the people

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on television say my dog was
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maybe he said that, and maybe
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city manager. I'm

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not taking this from television.
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the people that went there.

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John C Dvorak: Now the question
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Adam Curry: Because this
happened throughout the

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John C Dvorak: whole of the
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Adam Curry: it, because Muir is
the judge, the judge, I'm just

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seeing it from a courtroom
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Judge, you're wrong and shut up.
Judge, that's not your job. Let

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Kamala, let the prosecutor, uh,
make her Yeah, I

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John C Dvorak: Yes. Well, that's
definitely going on. So he kind

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of does have a comeback here,
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John C Dvorak: does that part?
No, no, I'm

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Adam Curry: sorry. I'm sorry, my
mistake. Hold on. You have it on

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all caps. It's a little hard to
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Wait, where is it? Yes, I got
it. Here again, the

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Unknown: Springfield city
manager says there's no evidence

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of that. Vice President, I'll
let you respond to the rest of

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you've heard talk about extreme
you know, this is, I think, one

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of the reasons why in this
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endorsement of 200 Republicans
who have formally worked with

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President Bush, Mitt Romney and
John McCain, including the

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endorsement of former Vice
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Congress member Liz Cheney.

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She's no longer in Congress.
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John C Dvorak: that's a lie.
Then yes, by the standards they

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put on Trump, debt would be a
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Adam Curry: to intersperse this
debate analysis. So it's not all

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just debate clips. I want to
just focus for a moment on

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Springfield. First of all, one
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he Texas junta. He said, I went
to see what was going on with

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the Haitians. He said he went to
Springfield for a day. He just

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went there to see what was going
on. He said, Holy cow, Haitians

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are everywhere. He said he went
to the auto parts store a line

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of Haitians getting things for
their cars. One guy in line

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actually had to activate the
card he was using before he

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made. Purchase you see where
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obvious what is happening in
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from two days ago,
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piece on what's happening in
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relatively short clips from it.
This is exactly and when Trump

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says people around the country
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home, because whether it's
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crazy or gumming up the public
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everywhere. I've seen it for the
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Netherlands, where they bring in
immigrants, they throw them into

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these small towns. In this case,
this is exactly what the bankers

438
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wanted. We've talked about it.
Suppress wages, bring in cheap

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workers, and this is what PBS
discovered boots on the ground

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in Springfield, Ohio. The reason

441
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Unknown: they left is their home
country is disintegrating.

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Protests and increasing violence
in the Caribbean nation

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culminated in the assassination
of President Jovenel Moise in

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2021 since then, the country
spiraled. Armed gangs currently

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control 80% of the capital. Port
de Prince mirceous is one of the

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estimated 731,000 Haitian
immigrants now living in the

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United States. I

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got my brothers and sisters, my
mother still living there. I'm

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always thinking about my family
in Haiti

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because of that violence, the US
granted what's called Temporary

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Protected Status to Haitians in
the US, giving them limited time

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permission to live and work
here. TPS was then expanded by

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the Biden administration. Mr.
Says he came to Springfield for

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the same reason most Haitians
did. He heard that housing was

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cheap and jobs were plentiful.

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What started slowly, we had an
application pool that was a

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little bit different. People
coming to work here, people

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looking for jobs. What he's
welding here again, are welded

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axle components. Jamie

460
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McGregor is the CEO of McGregor
metal, which makes welded parts

461
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for the auto and farm
industries. Right now, about 10%

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of his workforce is Haitian,
over 30 employees.

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I wish I had 30 more. Our
Haitian associates come to work

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every day. They don't have a
drug problem. They will stay at

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their machine. They will achieve
their numbers. They are here to

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work, and so in general, that's
that's a stark difference from

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what we're used to in our
community.

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Adam Curry: So this is exactly
what the real story in America

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is, particularly in the Midwest.
You look at Ohio. First, we

470
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spread fentanyl everywhere, and
opioids, everyone got drugged

471
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out. No one could work properly.
No one wanted to work then the

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Biden administration expands the
TP, yes,

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John C Dvorak: oh, it's just
gonna say that was, that

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couldn't have been from
frontline. Yeah, it's

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Adam Curry: PBS Frontline.

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00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,420
John C Dvorak: You sure wasn't
NewsHour, because that was

477
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:56,560
William Brangham, and he only is
on for on newshour.

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Adam Curry: I may be wrong. I
thought it was frontline. It

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could be NewsHour,

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John C Dvorak: minor difference.
Just it is a difference where

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they present okay and bring them
at NewsHour is more likely to be

482
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biased. So it so if they brought
that out there, I think it's

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even more important

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Adam Curry: Good point. So we
drug Middle America. The

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industrial base was shipped off
to China. Now the bankers want

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to bring it back, but not for
American workers. No, no. We

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can't have those idiots working
and creating we need cheap

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labor. And there's a war going
on, you know, a civil war going

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on. Haiti, notice we didn't go
in to fix it like the last time.

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No, let the Jamaicans go in. Let
the Nigerians go in. No, no,

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we'll just take 731,000 and give
them work permits. That's what

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TPS is. We expanded it under
Biden Harris, and then you get

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this willing

494
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Unknown: McGregor acknowledges
the sudden arrival of so many

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new immigrants is a challenge on
multiple fronts, but he believes

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this is partly how the
industrial Midwest can regrow.

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We want more jobs

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00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:07,080
in our community, and in order
to fill those jobs, some jobs

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need to be people who are not
originally from here.

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There's things in the last five
years that have really changed

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and has been a forward
improvement for Springfield, but

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this is taxing the resources of
the city. Springfield's

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Mayor Rob Rue says he was
cautiously optimistic when the

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first Haitians settled in town,
but then their numbers quickly

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rose. The city estimates 12 to
15,000 Haitians are here now.

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The infrastructure of the city,
our safety forces, our

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hospitals, our schools,
Springfield is a close community

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and has a big heart, but at the
same point, we've had this

509
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influx that has taxed all these
services. Now,

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Adam Curry: the way I see it,
this mayor's an idiot, because

511
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480
you need you know that this is
going to happen. And now he's

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00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,840
like, oh, we need money. Okay,
so this, this whole thing, is a

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,860
setup from the beginning. Thing.
And I think that's why it

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resonates with Americans who
probably are already Trump

515
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,980
voters, but maybe people who are
agnostic and just struggling and

516
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:16,740
saying, you know, this is this
really something here? Because

517
00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:20,180
it is, this is this is the
problem. This is exactly what,

518
00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:23,660
what, what has been going on,
and it's structural, and it's

519
00:30:23,660 --> 00:30:26,900
the central bankers really, uh,
in collusion with the Biden

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00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:31,040
administration who expanded TPS.
Why don't we go in there and fix

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00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320
the Civil War? No, no, we'll
just take everybody here. We

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00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,280
need them anyway. There you go.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I'm
gonna get back to my theme,

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Adam Curry: yes, of course. I'm
just saying this for

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Unknown: for effect.

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John C Dvorak: Let's go to bonus
clip one. Bonus

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Adam Curry: clip one. Ladies and
gentlemen, this came in late, so

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00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,120
hold on a second. You mean
debate bonus, I think, right.

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Wait, how come it doesn't say
bonus here?

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00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:05,880
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's because
under debate. Oh, but it came in

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as a, as a,

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00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,980
Adam Curry: right? But it
doesn't say bonus. What's the

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00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:11,640
name of it? No,

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00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,980
John C Dvorak: it doesn't, I'm
just telling you where it came.

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00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:14,700
Oh, okay,

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00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:18,420
Adam Curry: I can't play it if I
don't know what it

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00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:21,620
John C Dvorak: is, the name of
it, look it up. Because I, I

538
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,680
thought that if you if you saw
it, when you saw it, when it

539
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,300
came in, you know what? Okay,
no,

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00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:28,640
Adam Curry: because it would say
bonus clip and it doesn't say,

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00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,180
Okay. Well, let

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00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:31,880
John C Dvorak: me tell you what
the problem is with this. I can

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00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,200
get it for you, but when I send
the bonus clips in, they're not

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,480
on my main list. Oh, okay, well,
so all I know is I sent you the

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,960
bonus clips. In order of the one
is that I wanted to play

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00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,900
Adam Curry: falling down. Make a
note, we're falling down here.

547
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:47,920
We're falling down.

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00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920
John C Dvorak: So I have to go
back and see what the clip is

549
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,040
called that I sent you even
though you had received it.

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Bonus clip is called debate,
blatant lie. Clip on from

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00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Tiktok. Okay,

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00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Unknown: as

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,000
of today, there is not one
member of the United States

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military who is in active duty
in a combat zone, in any war

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160
zone around the world. The first
time this century, that's

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John C Dvorak: a blatant lie.
The US is 2400 troops deployed

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00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,640
to Iraq right now to assist and
advise Iraqi forces engaging in

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combat against ISIS. US forces
regularly participate in raids

559
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,060
in ISIS, and they have since
2014 just 11 days ago, seven US

560
00:32:26,060 --> 00:32:29,120
personnels were injured in a
raid. We just had three soldiers

561
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,300
die back in January, killed by
Iran backed militias while

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00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,540
deployed in Jordan, which
borders Israel, until July, the

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00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:38,780
Dwight D Eisenhower aircraft
strike group was deployed to the

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00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:42,100
Red Sea, regularly fighting
Houthi rebels and was attacked

565
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,300
on numerous occasions. Just last
month, we deployed even more

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00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:49,600
ballistic missile capable
cruisers and destroyers to the

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Middle East and Europe. We also
happened to have 10,000 troops

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00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:56,380
deployed to Poland on Ukraine's
border, and CNN was apparently

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only able to count one lie that
Kamala told during the debate. I

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00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:02,680
counted 29 at least. So follow
me here, because I'm going to be

571
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,820
talking to be talking about all
of them now. The reason, the

572
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:09,540
reason I'm playing this clip
after the other ones to

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00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:14,100
emphasize this lying situation,
is that they went to the ABC

574
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:18,840
went to the trouble of calling
the city manager of Springfield

575
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,320
out of the blue just on the
hopes that Trump would bring up

576
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,040
the dogs, yes, but they don't
care about any of this other

577
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,160
stuff. Do you think this would
be a little more important when

578
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,060
she says, makes this lie that we
have no troops in a combat zone?

579
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So

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Adam Curry: what is interesting
is that you're surprised.

581
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,620
John C Dvorak: You know, I'm not
surprised well,

582
00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:42,400
Adam Curry: but this is what the
culture war economy does. Oh,

583
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,780
that was biased. Yes, it was
biased. It was a setup. It was a

584
00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:50,260
complete setup. And now let's
unprepared for it.

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00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,440
John C Dvorak: To make this
setup even more obvious to me,

586
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:59,260
is something that nobody picked
up on. Fox all the fox shows.

587
00:33:59,260 --> 00:34:04,680
Didn't see it. Nobody saw it.
You're going to see it here. I'm

588
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,020
going to bring it out. You might
catch it knowing that there's a

589
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:11,460
gotcha in here. Play the debate
IVF killer on

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00:34:11,459 --> 00:34:14,519
Unknown: it. They know that, and
everybody else knows it. I have

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00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:18,959
been a leader on fertilization,
IVF, and the other thing they

592
00:34:19,859 --> 00:34:24,019
you should ask, Will she allow
abortion in the eighth month,

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00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:28,879
ninth month, seventh month, come
on, okay, would you do that? Why

594
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:32,839
don't you ask that question to
answer the question, the

595
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:37,039
question you could do abortions
in the seventh month, the eighth

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00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,979
month, the ninth month, and
probably after birth.

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00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:44,199
Adam Curry: Yes. I'm glad you
brought that up. What did you

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00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:45,039
want to say about it?

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00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,000
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I
thought her mic was supposed to

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00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,760
be off, yeah, she said right in
the middle of his commentary,

601
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,120
oh, come on, yeah, yeah. And
then her mic was open the whole

602
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,140
time throughout the debate.
Rights. They're supposed to be

603
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:04,380
cut mics. And you knew that
Trump's was cut because he

604
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,020
tried, when he tried to come in
on something, it was a dead mic,

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00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:10,020
and they brought it up. You
could see him do it. Her mic was

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00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:13,980
open the whole time. She could
keep us all she wanted. Nobody

607
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:15,060
noticed this.

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00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,820
Adam Curry: You know what I you
know what else I noticed, which

609
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:23,840
was very minor, but, and I it
was just minor. Trump's box was

610
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,760
a little bit smaller than her
box in the two shots. Width,

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00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,640
yes, width was a little hers was

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John C Dvorak: lower.

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00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:35,120
Adam Curry: But no, no, I'm not
talking the box that she's

614
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,700
standing I'm talking the TV
screen, the two shot.

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00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:40,400
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
interesting. I didn't notice.

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00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,260
Yes, his box

617
00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:44,440
Adam Curry: was now, I
understand for framing purposes,

618
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,560
because she needed to have a
little more room because she

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kept looking to the right. But
that could be just a shot, and

620
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:56,140
it would have actually given
Trump a more just from a

621
00:35:56,140 --> 00:35:58,720
television production
standpoint, it would have given

622
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a more dominant appearance by
having to zoom out make her head

623
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:10,080
smaller in order to fit her her
sideway glances, so they made

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00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,560
his box a little bit smaller.
Was just it's a minor thing, but

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I think they matter. Now on the
killing babies, I had to go into

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the archives just to make sure
people know, because he said

627
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,440
West Virginia, which, now that
should have been fact checked,

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00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,240
because that was wrong. It was

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John C Dvorak: another, yes,
well, they, they fact checked

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00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,680
him, I think, up to five times.
They never stopped her from

631
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,520
saying anything. She used fine
people hoax. She used the blood

632
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,520
bath. They didn't stop her. This
was worse.

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00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:43,180
Adam Curry: We'll get your
description. We'll get to that.

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00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:46,840
But they didn't fact check him,
because it was the former

635
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,960
governor of Virginia, which he
later said correctly, but he

636
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,500
started with West Virginia, and
we have that clip from 2019.

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Unknown: Virginia's late term
abortion bill is gaining

638
00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:58,240
international attention. It

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00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:02,100
would allow terminations at any
point during pregnancy,

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00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,940
including up until the point of
childbirth. The controversy

641
00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:10,140
first started from this video
delegate Tran defending her bill

642
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:13,080
that would loosen abortion
requirements in the Commonwealth

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00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,740
through the third

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00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:15,720
trimester. Third trimester goes
all the

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way up to 40 weeks, but to the
end of the third trimester,

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I don't think we have a limit in
the bill.

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Right now, late term abortions
are allowed under Virginia law

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if three physicians certify the
pregnancy substantially and

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00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:31,580
irremediably threatens the
woman's life and health. Trans

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bill would only require one
physician to certify the

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abortion and removes the
substantially and irremediably

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00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:41,440
requirement, facing harsh
backlash, Governor Northam went

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,680
on a radio show stating that
trans comments were blown out of

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,800
proportion. He added that
politicians shouldn't interfere

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with a woman's right to choose.

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The infant would be delivered.
The infant would be kept

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comfortable. The infant would be
resuscitated if that's what the

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mother and the family desired,
and then a discussion would

659
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,760
ensue between the physicians and
the mother.

660
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,580
Governor Northam faced a
backlash of his own, accused of

661
00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:08,400
supporting infanticide by
conservative leaders. Words

662
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,980
have meaning. You saw the tape.
I

663
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,540
think he was very clear in what
he said, and I

664
00:38:15,540 --> 00:38:17,040
think that was very disturbing

665
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,480
Adam Curry: so and you know,
this is rarely brought up by the

666
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,860
the big the big talking heads in
podcast land, because they don't

667
00:38:24,860 --> 00:38:28,340
have the archive, or the
producers that we do who dig

668
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:32,300
this up, and the systems that we
have. And so it's true, and

669
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:36,020
these people are demonic in that
way, and it's important, because

670
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,320
it just gets glossed over. She
says, That's not true. That's

671
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,020
not true. That's not true. Just
this week, this chick, I'm

672
00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:49,060
saying chick, called a DC
District of Columbia clinic, and

673
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:50,980
she recorded it right calling

674
00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:56,260
Unknown: the Care Clinic in
Bethesda, Maryland. Bethesda, I

675
00:38:56,260 --> 00:39:01,320
am looking to have an abortion.
I'm 34 right now. I am in a

676
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,000
pretty desperate situation.

677
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,880
Adam Curry: That's eight months
just so if you can't calculate

678
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,680
eight months pregnant
boyfriends,

679
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Unknown: is kind of out of the
picture. Now, so I don't really

680
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:11,220
have any support.

681
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,920
An abortion at any stage is
actually much safer than

682
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,220
delivering a term pregnancy.
It's a four to five day

683
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:20,960
procedure. We do some basic lab
work on you and start to dilate

684
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,900
your cervix. After that, we do
what we call the fetal

685
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:27,680
injection. A needle is inserted
through the abdomen and into the

686
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,440
fetal heart, where lidocaine is
injected, and that will

687
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,500
completely numb the fetus so
there's no pain. And then after

688
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,620
that, we inject a medication
called digoxin and another

689
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:40,300
medication called KCL into the
fetal heart, which will flow and

690
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,700
then stop the fetal heartbeat.
Then on that fourth day,

691
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:46,720
depending on how your cervix has
dilated, we'll break your water,

692
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,480
and then we'll give you a
medication called misoprostol.

693
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:53,560
Misoprostol will sort of induce
contraction and increase the

694
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,860
dilation of your cervix. You're
going to have contractions in

695
00:39:56,860 --> 00:40:01,200
cramping, and then we'll assist
you in. Sort of pushing in the

696
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,440
induction and then remove all of
the products of conception.

697
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,660
Adam Curry: The product of
conception, you're definitely

698
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:07,800
going

699
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,700
Unknown: to comfort a

700
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,460
lot of pressure, but we do give
you fentanyl and verse fed

701
00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:14,640
during the procedure. We
specialize in later trimester

702
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,580
care. Our doctor is very well
versed in what he's doing, and

703
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:18,540
he's very good.

704
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,040
So I'm not like a rare
situation. Y'all help women this

705
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,480
late in pregnancy all the time,

706
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,120
Adam Curry: all the time. So it
is true.

707
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:29,960
John C Dvorak: It is true. Of
course, it's true, but people

708
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Adam Curry: need to hear that.
That's a sickening but this is

709
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,800
how your mom played

710
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,520
John C Dvorak: that Virginia
clip when it came out, and maybe

711
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,180
played it a second time. Glad
you found it, by the way. Um

712
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,820
yeah. I know Trump didn't lie at
all on any of this stuff, but

713
00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:49,240
she and she never says that's
not true. She says, No, you're

714
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,720
lying. Yeah, you have to, you
know, that's different, because

715
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,480
they have to, they have to
promote this lie. Oh, you're a

716
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,180
liar. I mean, at one point,
there was two things I thought

717
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:02,760
were funny about the debate.
One, at one point, he actually

718
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,920
shushed her for interrupting
him.

719
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,480
Unknown: Does it sound familiar

720
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,500
John C Dvorak: with the open
mic? Yes. So that, which I

721
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:13,200
thought was funny, because that
she was known for doing that to

722
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,600
pence. And the other one was he,
she wouldn't answer the question

723
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,620
directly of whether she ever met
Putin. She's never met Putin.

724
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:27,020
And that came up later. This
thing was your idea that this is

725
00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:30,140
just a kangaroo, not a
courtroom, but a kangaroo court.

726
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:34,220
There you go. Is, is right on
the money. Because the end these

727
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:38,660
two people, there's this dour
woman, I don't see her that much

728
00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:40,840
on ABC that whoever she is. Was

729
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Adam Curry: it just me, or did
she overfill her upper lip?

730
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
John C Dvorak: There was
something wrong with her lips?

731
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,160
Yes, and

732
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,820
Adam Curry: her upper lip, it

733
00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:49,600
John C Dvorak: wasn't you,

734
00:41:49,660 --> 00:41:55,120
Adam Curry: okay, okay. And by
the way, please stop sending me

735
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,440
the she had speaker earrings.

736
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:03,420
John C Dvorak: Actually, Mimi
looked into those speaker

737
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:06,900
earrings and found that they
were actually $30,000 Tiffany

738
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:08,640
earrings, which really irked
her.

739
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,700
Adam Curry: Yes, that is exactly
what I was going to say. I

740
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:13,500
happen to be a fan of Tiffany's.

741
00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:16,620
John C Dvorak: That didn't
surprise anybody, but

742
00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:21,440
Adam Curry: my sisters. My
sister's name is Tiffany, my mom

743
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,680
was a big fan of so I've always
followed Tiffany jewelry. And

744
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Tina and I, when we got married,
we got, you know, these silver

745
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,060
Tiffany wedding bands and so.
And I like the shop. It's a nice

746
00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:35,240
shop. I can't afford much in the
shop, but it's a nice shop. And,

747
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:39,200
and, and I looked it up, and
they no longer, no longer sold

748
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,420
online, and I'm not sure I got a
price quote of 22,000

749
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,740
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Mimi found
him at 30,000 and she said this

750
00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:51,460
was the most let them eat cake
total moment. She said she

751
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:53,980
should be wearing some simple
studs or something. She

752
00:42:53,980 --> 00:42:57,880
shouldn't be wearing $30,000
earrings, exactly.

753
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:04,320
Adam Curry: Now, there was one
thing which this is a clip from

754
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,580
Jen pasaki and Steele, who was
supposed to be a Republican. In

755
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,080
fact, he ran the Republican
Party. Now he's a Democrat, and

756
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,260
he's the head of the RNC. Yeah,
the head of the RNC, and he's on

757
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:20,300
the panel. And so he's first,
he's going to throw out some

758
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,420
Jive talk, and then he's going
to say something which I believe

759
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:23,960
to be true.

760
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,260
Unknown: Okay. Michael Steele,
you were quite animated when I

761
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:32,540
saw you in the hallway earlier
about that. You're going to tell

762
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,060
me you think of the debate that
you told me in the hallway, what

763
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:37,340
was your take on the debate?
Michael, still go ahead. Was the

764
00:43:37,340 --> 00:43:39,260
key moment she spanked that ass
she

765
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:46,780
came what she's she came and she
walked on that stage. Look, for

766
00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:51,460
me, this is one of those things
that you didn't realize happened

767
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:56,020
until about 20 to 30 minutes
into the debate, and it's what

768
00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:59,200
everyone's talked about. And for
me, it was the pivotal, most

769
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,420
important moment of the debate
was when they were introduced

770
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:07,080
and Donald Trump came out. And
if you watch go back, I tell

771
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,920
everybody to go back and watch
this. He comes out. He goes

772
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,880
direct to the podium. He is not
usually go to the middle of the

773
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,120
floor to greet your opponent. He
went to the pot. He had no

774
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,920
intention of shaking her hand.
She walked across the stage

775
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,720
right into his space, stuck her
hand out and said, Kamala

776
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:30,560
Harris, it was a power move, and
he wasn't expecting it.

777
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,260
John C Dvorak: I think let me
give you my take on this. This

778
00:44:36,260 --> 00:44:38,060
is a corrupt situation.

779
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Adam Curry: And they said, Don't
shake hands. And they let her do

780
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,940
it anyway. No,

781
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,860
John C Dvorak: no, I got the
prop bets from an operation

782
00:44:47,860 --> 00:44:48,700
called sports.

783
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:52,240
Adam Curry: Here we go. And

784
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:55,420
John C Dvorak: there was a prop
bet on, will they shake hands?

785
00:44:56,140 --> 00:45:00,900
And if I was Camella, because
you already saw. He wasn't going

786
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,060
to shake hands. So the bet was
they weren't going to shake

787
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,000
hands. I think was two to ones.
I don't know the numbers. I'd

788
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,840
have to go look him up. But all
you do, your cameras say hey,

789
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,740
hey boys, I'm going to make a
point. I going over there and

790
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:17,700
shaking Trump's hand. Your bet.
The bet is, as a surefire

791
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,720
winner, you can win as much
money as

792
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:24,620
Adam Curry: you bet. We've got a
little change on the side as you

793
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:25,220
walk over

794
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:27,500
John C Dvorak: there. She made a
huge point of walking over

795
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:32,000
there. They all, she's so power,
bad bullshit. This was a betting

796
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,600
moment, and she knew this was
the one opportunity she had to

797
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,540
make a surefire win at online
betting. This was a this was as

798
00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:43,720
corrupt. This is the corruption
that we're looking at. This is

799
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:45,220
corruption. I love it,

800
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,400
Adam Curry: the prop bet. All
right, now I have a question,

801
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,980
since you didn't get recordings,
even though, of course, you set

802
00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:58,420
your your YouTube TV, CNN is
taking a very different track

803
00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:01,560
with all of this. Listen to Jake
Tapper,

804
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:04,860
Unknown: Vice President Harris,
began the debate by punting the

805
00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:07,620
first question on the economy.
Do you

806
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:10,140
believe Americans are better off
than they were four years ago?

807
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:11,460
So

808
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,500
I was raised as a middle class
kid, and I am actually the only

809
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,980
person on this stage who has a
plan that is about lifting up

810
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:22,100
the middle class and working
people of America.

811
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,760
It went on from there, despite
the economy being the number one

812
00:46:25,820 --> 00:46:29,660
issue facing the country, the
sitting Vice President generally

813
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:33,140
reverted to talking points about
a few of her policy proposals.

814
00:46:33,140 --> 00:46:36,140
Even Harris allies today are
saying that she needs to talk

815
00:46:36,140 --> 00:46:40,600
more about what she will do for
Americans if elected. Senator

816
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Bernie Sanders will be here in a
second to talk about more about

817
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,960
the need for her to fill in some
of those blanks on the border,

818
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,160
another vulnerable issue for
Harris, she also dodged. Would

819
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,800
you have done anything
differently from President Biden

820
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,100
on this?

821
00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:57,340
So I'm the only person on this
stage who has prosecuted

822
00:46:57,340 --> 00:46:59,800
transnational criminal
organizations for the

823
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,300
trafficking of guns, drugs and
human beings.

824
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,440
Okay, that wasn't the question.
When asked how she would break

825
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,520
through the Israel Hamas war
stalemate, Harris said this,

826
00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:16,080
we need a cease fire deal, and
we need the hostages out, and so

827
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,240
we will continue to work around
the clock on that. Okay, but

828
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,560
again, how

829
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,880
Adam Curry: so Tapper? We know
is a CIA asset. He gladly

830
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,040
attends the birthday parties of
the agency

831
00:47:28,340 --> 00:47:31,640
John C Dvorak: big I want to
stop you from the generalization

832
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,300
you earlier made that at CNN. I
think it's just Tapper. Well,

833
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,720
Adam Curry: that's what I
thought. But then enter Aaron

834
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,100
Burnett, formerly of CNBC,

835
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:45,700
John C Dvorak: now also counts
on Foreign Relations. Now on the

836
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:49,000
Adam Curry: ozempic train. She
looks good, but she's on the O

837
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,700
train. There's no doubt about
it. It's too bad and she did

838
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:52,900
this this week tonight,

839
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,840
Unknown: Kamala Harris releasing
details of her policy positions

840
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,140
for the first time on her
campaign website. A K file

841
00:47:59,140 --> 00:48:03,300
investigation has uncovered,
meantime, a 2019 questionnaire.

842
00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:06,600
And in this questionnaire,
Harris laid out some much more

843
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,260
liberal stances. K files, Andrew
Kaczynski joins me now, yeah.

844
00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:12,840
And this was a questionnaire
that she filled out for the ACL,

845
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:16,620
ACLU, and this questionnaire is
really an interesting snapshot

846
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:20,420
in time of that 2019 Democratic
primary Kamala Harris was trying

847
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:23,660
to get to the left of Bernie
Sanders. She was trying to get

848
00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:26,720
to the left of Elizabeth Warren.
And you really see that in a lot

849
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,880
of these answers. And I want to
walk our viewers through a

850
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640
little bit of what she said.
Let's just take immigration and

851
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,460
look at what she said here. She
said on immigration, she made

852
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:38,420
this open ended pledge to end
immigrant detention. She said

853
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:42,520
she supported taxpayer funded
gender transition surgeries for

854
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,320
detained migrants. She also said
she

855
00:48:44,740 --> 00:48:47,500
funded gender transition
surgeries for detained

856
00:48:47,620 --> 00:48:49,420
actually said she supported she

857
00:48:49,420 --> 00:48:53,380
wrote, both wrote and answered
in the affirmative when she was

858
00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:56,680
asked this, and she said she
also supported it for federal

859
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,220
prisoners. Now, she also pledged
to slash immigration detention

860
00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:04,440
by 50% close all family and
private facilities, and decrease

861
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,880
funding for ice. And then the
end ending, end ice detainers

862
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,440
with local law enforcement.

863
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,720
Adam Curry: So it's not just
Tapper. There's something in

864
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:17,340
CNN, and you know, there's, I
don't know, seems like they're

865
00:49:17,340 --> 00:49:20,600
trying to lean more towards
Trump. Maybe they want to even

866
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,720
out the score for the ad.
Advertising rates make it more

867
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,180
of a horse race in their mind.
I'm not sure that

868
00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:29,840
John C Dvorak: could be it
advertising, but Tapper is

869
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:35,300
definitely pushing back on
everything. So is baffling to

870
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:36,440
me. But okay, well,

871
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,280
Adam Curry: remember he is and
by he's far

872
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,440
John C Dvorak: there is a clip
which and so is Burnett. There

873
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,700
is a clip going around of her
sitting down, talking about how

874
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:52,000
the gender affirming care is so
important for prisoners, and

875
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,720
she's made a point of pushing it
so California is it's California

876
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,500
law is the best. So these clips
are out there, and they're just

877
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:03,120
starting. To show up. So my
favorite one, which I is a

878
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,620
useless clip for the show, but
I'll explain it is I retweeted

879
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:12,300
it for people who are concerned
about my tweeting too much. The

880
00:50:12,540 --> 00:50:17,280
this was from 1996 it was Willie
Brown. It was a Willie Brown

881
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,880
party, and Kamala was there with
him, and the reporter who's

882
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,540
covering the the event goes up
to Camelot and says, Are you his

883
00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:27,260
daughter?

884
00:50:27,380 --> 00:50:30,560
Adam Curry: Yes, I saw that.
It's not real. It's not good for

885
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,260
audio for the show. And she
says, that's a mess. No, I'm

886
00:50:33,260 --> 00:50:33,740
not. But

887
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:35,480
John C Dvorak: and then she was
there at the end. She was

888
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,840
standing right next to him at
the podium. Yeah, so she's a,

889
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,320
yeah, yes,

890
00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:43,780
Adam Curry: one of those. That's
one of those where you get

891
00:50:43,780 --> 00:50:46,300
earrings. Man, come on, that's
where you get those $2,000

892
00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:49,600
John C Dvorak: earrings.
Actually, that was suggested by

893
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Mimi. That is Willie Brown
bought those earrings for her.

894
00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:53,920
Now, regarding

895
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,420
Adam Curry: the border, Trump
had, I thought a pretty good

896
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:02,100
line, although he mistakenly
called it a bill when he should

897
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,760
have said executive order or
order or anything but bill

898
00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:09,120
regarding the shutting down of
the border. Right now,

899
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,900
Unknown: I ask you this. You
talk about the capital. Why are

900
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,560
we allowing these millions of
people to come through on the

901
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,960
southern border? How come she's
not doing anything? And I'll

902
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,100
tell you what I would do, and I
would be very proud to do it. I

903
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:25,880
would say we would both leave
this debate right now. I'd like

904
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,480
to see her go down to
Washington, DC during this

905
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,660
debate, because we're wasting a
lot of time. Go down to because

906
00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:35,360
she's been so bad, it's so
ridiculous. Go down to

907
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,380
Washington, DC and let her sign
a bill to close up the border,

908
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,160
because they have the right to
do it. They don't need bills.

909
00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:45,040
They have the right to do the
President of the United States,

910
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,200
you'll get them out of bed.
You'll wake them up at four

911
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,780
o'clock in the afternoon. You
say, Come on, come on down to

912
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:53,440
the office. Let's sign a bill.
If he if he signs a bill that

913
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,440
the border is closed, all he has
to do is say it to the border

914
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,740
patrol, who are phenomenal if
they do that the border is

915
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:01,440
closed. Now,

916
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:02,760
John C Dvorak: as a fact
checker,

917
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,140
Adam Curry: yes. Fact Check
false.

918
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:07,080
John C Dvorak: I would have
checked false, because you look

919
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,240
for everything. Trump says
that's even a little bit

920
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,420
erroneous. That would be two
lies on the on the count,

921
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:15,540
because you said those are two
lies twice. He said, sign a

922
00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:18,660
bill. Bill, yes, and you're
right. It's an executive order,

923
00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:21,740
yes. Now, so that's two lies.
Those are lies,

924
00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:26,780
Adam Curry: those lies. So he
referenced TDA, which is the

925
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,100
Venezuelan gang in Aurora in
Colorado

926
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,140
John C Dvorak: and Chicago.
Well,

927
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:34,820
Adam Curry: let's just stick
with Aurora for a minute,

928
00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:37,340
because we've been following
this story. We haven't quite

929
00:52:37,340 --> 00:52:40,900
known exactly what's going on.
It is several apartment

930
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:45,160
buildings have been taken over
by these Venezuelan gangs. And I

931
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,780
know from one of our guys who
follows the border, he says, you

932
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:54,580
know, the the TVA, they have an
entire line all the way from

933
00:52:54,580 --> 00:52:57,940
Venezuela all the way up to the
United States, and housing is

934
00:52:57,940 --> 00:52:59,800
really one of their main things.

935
00:53:00,220 --> 00:53:02,700
John C Dvorak: They take the
member. The membership is 5000

936
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,260
Yeah, they take

937
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,500
Adam Curry: over housing. And
then, you know, new gang members

938
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:10,140
come up. They stay in those
houses, they move on to the next

939
00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:13,740
one, as they move all the way up
into American cities. So

940
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,760
Denver's local television
station, of course, had to look

941
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,660
into is this really true? Is it
really true about what's

942
00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:24,440
happening in Aurora, and what
the mayor says is quite telling.

943
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:24,740
Former

944
00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:27,380
Unknown: President Donald Trump
said that Aurora was taken over

945
00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:31,640
by migrants and violently taking
over buildings. Is that

946
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,780
accurate? No,

947
00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:36,380
it's really not. You know,
there's no question that there's

948
00:53:36,380 --> 00:53:39,440
been some issues in several
apartment buildings, but it's

949
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,560
been so dramatically
exaggerated, so

950
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:43,600
Adam Curry: several apartment
buildings, but it's been

951
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,120
exaggerated that it's the entire

952
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,660
Unknown: city that is somehow
overrun by gang or criminal

953
00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:52,060
activity that couldn't be
further from the truth. You

954
00:53:52,060 --> 00:53:54,280
Adam Curry: see what's happening
here, right? It's like, well,

955
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:54,580
yeah,

956
00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:57,040
John C Dvorak: this is ants
fucking Yes. He

957
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,380
Unknown: also mentioned that a
lot of the migrants coming into

958
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:02,460
the United States are criminals,
and that crime is at an all time

959
00:54:02,460 --> 00:54:05,700
high. Do you believe that crime
is at an all time high in Aurora

960
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:06,360
right now?

961
00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:10,980
You know, I really don't the you
know. Again, I think that there

962
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:14,100
are some issues with several
apartment buildings, and even

963
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:17,100
those issues have been
exaggerated. Mayor

964
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:21,560
Kaufman says, at all surprised
to hear Aurora come up.

965
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,320
I kind of expected it to come up
during the debate, and

966
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,160
unfortunately it

967
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,520
did. Many who live in the city
say they weren't shocked either.

968
00:54:28,580 --> 00:54:32,180
I'm not really surprised about
it. Half of it's media, and half

969
00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:36,200
of it's obviously people are
there's bad people everywhere in

970
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,980
a joint stop Wednesday, Mayor
Mike Kaufman, Councilwoman

971
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:43,900
Danielle jarinsky, and the city
manager said in part, trendara

972
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:47,740
West presence in Aurora is
limited to specific properties,

973
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,040
all of which the city has been
addressing for months.

974
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:55,540
There is an exaggeration of the
issue that the royal Police

975
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,800
Department is certainly
addressing. What issue right now

976
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:05,160
is. Real, and there are arrests
being made, and there are people

977
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,420
that are being held in custody.

978
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:09,720
Adam Curry: So then the same
Denver local television station

979
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,400
has this report Aurora

980
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,580
Unknown: police identifying more
members of the trend day Aragua

981
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,360
gang who have been arrested the
10 men you see here face charges

982
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,800
stemming from alleged assaults,
domestic disputes and shootings

983
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:25,160
in Aurora, including at the
Whispering Pines, condominiums,

984
00:55:25,460 --> 00:55:28,700
Fitzsimmons place, apartments on
Nome street that have been in

985
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:30,140
the national spotlight.

986
00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:33,620
Adam Curry: Activists say
racist, homophobic, anti semitic

987
00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:36,380
comments at an aurora city
council meeting highlight a

988
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:39,200
divide that has grown since the
trend Aragua game came to the

989
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,600
spotlight. Here's your typical
Democrat stronghold city. This

990
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,000
is putting this all on the
council.

991
00:55:46,780 --> 00:55:49,900
John C Dvorak: I like. What's
homophobia got to do with it? I

992
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:51,640
Adam Curry: don't know, but you
got to stop it

993
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,460
Unknown: and listen. A caller at
Monday's Aurora city council

994
00:55:54,460 --> 00:55:58,660
meeting complained of immigrants
and used hateful language. His

995
00:55:58,780 --> 00:56:01,380
comments were not cut short ever
seven

996
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:04,080
Adam Curry: just Crawford talked
to members of the community now

997
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,840
demanding that the council cut
off hateful commentary and

998
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,140
establish some other safeguards.
Yes, safeguards for those poor

999
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:14,940
immigrants, the 10 who were
arrested. This is this is crazy

1000
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:19,020
so, and that's great. Let me
just get back to Aurora, because

1001
00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:23,180
I have two quick clips from one
of their council meetings, but

1002
00:56:23,180 --> 00:56:26,420
not Aurora, I'm sorry,
Springfield, Ohio. So this is

1003
00:56:26,420 --> 00:56:27,620
the residence, and let me

1004
00:56:27,620 --> 00:56:31,160
Unknown: be clear, this is not
about race. This is about people

1005
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,520
being given the privilege of
coming here from another country

1006
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:38,780
and having no respect for our
people, our land or our life's

1007
00:56:38,780 --> 00:56:42,280
work, people living their life
here the way they did in Haiti,

1008
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:46,300
angry, stealing, polluting,
living in filth and acting like

1009
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:50,860
animals. These are not civilized
people, opening containers in

1010
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:53,860
our grocery stores, helping
themselves to what's inside and

1011
00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:56,920
throwing the rest onto the
shelves and floors, pulling off

1012
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,460
of the highway to publicly clean
and gut the road kill lying

1013
00:57:00,460 --> 00:57:04,140
there in front of anyone that
passes by, stealing animals from

1014
00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:06,840
farmers and leaving their
severed heads at the site of an

1015
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,680
old school where children play
relieving themselves in public,

1016
00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:15,060
making some barbaric stew out of
the birds that live in our park.

1017
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,000
This is insanity, and it has to
stop.

1018
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:18,780
So

1019
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:21,260
Adam Curry: nothing to see here.
You're really exaggerating,

1020
00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:24,320
lady, but this guy is my
favorite. This guy is my

1021
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:24,740
favorite,

1022
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,280
John C Dvorak: by the way, dad,
because it's kind of out of the

1023
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,860
blue and it's good clip. I'm
going to give you a borderline

1024
00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:32,300
Clip of the Day for that. Oh,
well,

1025
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:35,900
Adam Curry: you should have
waited. No, you should wait. You

1026
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:38,360
should have waited because this
is my favorite. They're

1027
00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:42,640
Unknown: in the park driving up
ducks by their neck and cutting

1028
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,100
their head off and walking off
with them and eating them like

1029
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:47,500
and it's going to get bigger,
and it's only going to get

1030
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:50,080
worse. And y'all sitting up
there in these chairs, y'all

1031
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,600
all, y'all need to get out here
and do something. Y'all making

1032
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,540
hundreds of $1,000 y'all need to
put on a t shirt and some crocs.

1033
00:57:55,540 --> 00:57:57,880
And then y'all need to come out
here in these streets, and y'all

1034
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,340
need to go out here and, uh, I'm
out here before the police is

1035
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,480
Adam Curry: you got to put on a
t shirt and some Crocs and get

1036
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,500
out here people. Y'all

1037
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:06,480
Unknown: need to do something.
Bro, y'all really got to stand

1038
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,820
on Minutes. Y'all getting paid
all this money just to wear a

1039
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:12,180
suit and sit in a chair. I don't
think, I think it's, I think

1040
00:58:12,180 --> 00:58:14,460
it's crazy, bro, that's where
they come from, and that's what

1041
00:58:14,460 --> 00:58:17,880
they do. That's they country. I
don't know what they got going

1042
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,100
on over there, but they can't do
that over here. And if y'all

1043
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,640
just getting paid from it, and
then y'all ain't doing nothing

1044
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,040
about I think that's super
weird, bro, y'all gotta stand on

1045
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,980
business. Y'all gotta really,
like, step up. Like, it's lame,

1046
00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:28,280
bro,

1047
00:58:30,380 --> 00:58:32,120
yes, yeah. You

1048
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,120
John C Dvorak: know what's
extremely overlooked in all this

1049
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:41,620
is, I, I'd like to know the
genesis of why Haitians in

1050
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:46,540
particular are all in
Springfield. Does our homeland

1051
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,260
group take because we ship a lot
of these people. We fly them in

1052
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:56,440
directly in a lot of instances.
But why? Because are they all

1053
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,200
going to one spot? Because I
don't hear about the Haitians

1054
00:58:59,200 --> 00:58:59,860
anyplace else

1055
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,420
Adam Curry: but Springfield,
first of all is because dole is

1056
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:06,540
there. There's big industry
there. There's big industry

1057
00:59:06,540 --> 00:59:11,820
there's big factories. Dole,
yes, dole, there's big factories

1058
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:16,200
there. You heard the
manufacturing so there's, yeah,

1059
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240
John C Dvorak: no, I understand
that, but there's big factories

1060
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,120
here and there. But it would be,
hey,

1061
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,880
Adam Curry: it because
everyone's drugged out. They

1062
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,780
don't care. These companies are
in cahoots. And bring me some

1063
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:29,360
cheap workers. You hurt the guy.
Hey, I want more of these. I

1064
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,680
wish I could get 10 more. I want
30 more. Bring me more. You

1065
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,660
don't think they're in
conversations. Of course, they

1066
00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:38,120
John C Dvorak: are. No, I'm It
was obvious. There's something

1067
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,220
like that's going on, Alabama,

1068
00:59:40,340 --> 00:59:46,000
Adam Curry: Alabama, salacoo,
Sala Quagga city filled with

1069
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:51,520
Haitians. I think it's a sila
Quagga. It's S, Y, L, H, it's in

1070
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:56,440
the north. It's known as marble
city because a lot of marble.

1071
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,900
There's stone quarries there.
Same thing, same. Thing Council

1072
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:05,820
Patience, patience and the and
the and the council president

1073
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:10,440
Tiffany Nix stopped the council
meeting saying, Oh no, this is

1074
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,440
getting too heated. Here. You're
being aggressive. People are.

1075
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,960
It's the same story. And what's
up there quarries. So it's all

1076
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,120
coordinated exactly what the
former New York banker told us,

1077
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,000
exactly what they want,
suppressed wages. It's good for

1078
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000
industry. It used to be the
Republicans with these games.

1079
01:00:29,780 --> 01:00:35,180
Now it's the Democrats. It's,
it's, it's so obvious. So yeah,

1080
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,080
you'll see more. You'll see more
cities. I mean, we've got boots

1081
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,960
on the ground everywhere. We'll
hear about it. Do you have any

1082
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,900
more? Because I just want to
close out this segment with a

1083
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:49,300
couple more clips, unless you
have something you want to get

1084
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:50,740
in there. Well,

1085
01:00:50,740 --> 01:00:53,020
John C Dvorak: I did have some,
just some summary clips I

1086
01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:56,080
thought were good. Well, before
debates, before you get the

1087
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,520
Adam Curry: summary. This is
this just asked, yeah, but I

1088
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,660
Yes, I asked, and he said,
summary, I'm like, I'm striking.

1089
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:06,900
Summary, I'm pushing it, pushing
it back. We're moving out to the

1090
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:12,540
A one block. This is just, just
the clip that we have to play,

1091
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,640
because this shows that they're
all in. They don't care. The

1092
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,920
Democrats just gotta say it. The
Democrat Party are all it? I

1093
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,960
heard Dave Weiner spouting this
nonsense on this podcast, the

1094
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,460
people who are all in and are
hypnotized by these demonic,

1095
01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:37,880
spiritual forces of the Democrat
party believe these lies. Nancy

1096
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,900
Unknown: Pelosi was responsible.
She didn't do a job. The

1097
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:41,260
question

1098
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was about you as president, not
about former Speaker Pelosi, but

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I do want vice president Harris
to respond.

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Here. I was at the Capitol on
January 6. I was the vice

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01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:55,300
president elect. I was also
enacting senator. I was there,

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01:01:56,020 --> 01:02:00,060
and on that day, the President
of the United States incited a

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01:02:00,060 --> 01:02:07,380
violent mob to attack our
nation's capital, to desecrate

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01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,520
our nation's capital. On that
day, 140 law enforcement

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:17,460
officers were injured and some
died. And understand the former

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01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:21,560
president has been indicted and
impeached for exactly that

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01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:26,120
reason. But this is not an
isolated situation. Let's

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01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,980
remember Charlottesville, where
there was a mob of people

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01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:37,400
carrying tiki torches, spewing
anti semitic hate, and what did

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01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,680
the President then, at the time
say there were fine people on

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01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,780
each side. Let's remember that.
When it came to the proud boys a

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01:02:46,780 --> 01:02:51,520
militia, the President said, the
former president said, stand

1113
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,140
back and stand by. So for
everyone watching, who remembers

1114
01:02:56,140 --> 01:03:02,700
what January 6 was, I say we
don't have to go back. Let's not

1115
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:07,320
go back. We're not going back.
It's time to turn the page, and

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01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,640
if that was a bridge too far for
you, well, there is a place in

1117
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:18,180
our campaign for you to stand
for country, to stand for our

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01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:24,260
democracy, to stand for rule of
law and to end the chaos. Good

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01:03:24,260 --> 01:03:29,420
line. End the approach that is
about attacking the foundations

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01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:32,840
of our democracy because you
don't like the outcome. And be

1121
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,400
clear on that point, Donald
Trump, the candidate, has said,

1122
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,320
in this election, there will be
a bloodbath if this and the

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01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,580
outcome of this election is not
to his liking, let's turn the

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01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:50,380
page on this. Let's not go back.
Let's chart a course for the

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01:03:50,380 --> 01:03:54,220
future and not go backwards to
the past. These

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01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:57,880
Adam Curry: people do not care
about the truth at all.

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01:03:59,020 --> 01:04:01,320
John C Dvorak: Well, there were
four instances in there that the

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:06,180
hosts, moderators, could have
stopped her for just falsehoods,

1129
01:04:06,180 --> 01:04:06,360
or

1130
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,180
Adam Curry: done a summary
afterwards, or

1131
01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:10,800
John C Dvorak: anything. They
did nothing. No,

1132
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:17,160
Adam Curry: they didn't. So it
was, it was really, well, let's

1133
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,800
John C Dvorak: tell what they
were. The thing is, the stand

1134
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,920
down thing was bullcrap that
hoaxes about fine people has

1135
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,440
been even nope, here's that one
down, here's

1136
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,760
Adam Curry: the here's the
original. I have the original.

1137
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:32,180
And

1138
01:04:32,180 --> 01:04:34,760
Unknown: you had some very bad
people in that group, but you

1139
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:40,840
also had people that were very
fine people on both sides. You

1140
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,380
had people in that group. Excuse
me, excuse me. I saw the same

1141
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,340
pictures as you did. You had
people in that group that were

1142
01:04:48,340 --> 01:04:52,300
there to protest the taking down
of to them a very, very

1143
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:55,900
important statue and the
renaming of a park from Robert E

1144
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:58,840
Lee to another name. And you had
people, and I'm not talking

1145
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,980
about the neo Nazi. And the
white nationalists, because they

1146
01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:05,220
should be condemned totally. But
you had many people in that

1147
01:05:05,220 --> 01:05:10,320
group other than Neo Nazis and
white nationalists. Okay, there

1148
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,940
you go. That's the full quote.

1149
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:17,580
Adam Curry: And then the
bloodbath. We probably still

1150
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:21,980
have that somewhere. That was
about the Chinese cars, wasn't

1151
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,260
John C Dvorak: it about the
Chinese electric cars being made

1152
01:05:24,260 --> 01:05:27,260
in Mexico and being allowed to
come into the country through a

1153
01:05:27,260 --> 01:05:31,400
trickery, yes, without tariffs.
Here's of the here's the quote,

1154
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:32,000
China

1155
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Unknown: now is building a
couple of massive plants where

1156
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,840
they're going to build the cars
in Mexico, and think they think

1157
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,980
that they're going to sell those
cars into the United States with

1158
01:05:41,980 --> 01:05:45,400
no tax at the border. Let me
tell you something to China, if

1159
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,220
you're listening, President Xi
and you and I are friends, but

1160
01:05:48,340 --> 01:05:52,780
he understands the way I deal
those big monster car

1161
01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:56,500
manufacturing plants that you're
building in Mexico right now.

1162
01:05:56,980 --> 01:05:59,380
And you think you're going to
get that, you're going to not

1163
01:05:59,380 --> 01:06:02,340
hire Americans, and you're going
to sell the cars to us now,

1164
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,840
we're going to put a 100% tariff
on every single car that comes

1165
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,720
across the line, and you're not
going to be able to sell those

1166
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,980
guys if I get elected. Now, if I
don't get elected, it's going to

1167
01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:17,100
be a bloodbath for the whole
that's going to be the least of

1168
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,560
it. It's going to be a bloodbath
for the country that will be the

1169
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,220
least of it. But they're not
going to sell those cars.

1170
01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:24,620
They're building massive
factories. A friend of mine,

1171
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,400
there you go, there you go. It's
going to be a bloodbath for the

1172
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:28,880
country.

1173
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,380
Adam Curry: Yeah. So that's
futile.

1174
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,800
John C Dvorak: It is fun,

1175
01:06:36,860 --> 01:06:39,680
Adam Curry: but that's what a
good prosecutor does. You know,

1176
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,680
there's certainly in the
courtroom, there's nothing

1177
01:06:41,740 --> 01:06:44,560
against the prosecutor lying.
She's used to it. That's what

1178
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,900
you do. That's what you do.

1179
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,500
John C Dvorak: Well, this
reminds me of the prosecutor.

1180
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:54,100
The other one that's out there
is Adam Schiff, who, during one

1181
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:58,480
of the impeachment trials, made
up stories on the fly about what

1182
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,680
he was managing. Remember that
he goes on and on about what

1183
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:06,060
Trump and Zielinski were talking
about, and he was just lying,

1184
01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:09,420
and it was just the same thing,
exactly. Gosh,

1185
01:07:09,420 --> 01:07:11,460
Unknown: what was it? Was that
one?

1186
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,240
John C Dvorak: I'd be stunned.

1187
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,500
Adam Curry: It was he was doing
a little play. He was Schiff

1188
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:20,660
story. Probably

1189
01:07:23,060 --> 01:07:24,200
Unknown: not going to find it.

1190
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,900
Adam Curry: I think it might be
just worth it, just because I

1191
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:33,620
think that was the strongest. I
think Trump's closer was strong,

1192
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,560
and I haven't really seen it
clipped anywhere. I don't know

1193
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,020
if people are considering
clipping it or not, I think they

1194
01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:44,500
should.

1195
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,440
John C Dvorak: What the end of
the thing says, Well, if you're

1196
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,260
such a hot shot, why have you
been doing this all along? No,

1197
01:07:50,260 --> 01:07:50,620
I'm

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01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:54,280
Adam Curry: talking about his,
his, his closing his closing

1199
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,240
argument. So she

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,520
Unknown: just started by saying
she's going to do this, she's

1201
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,220
going to do that. She's going to
do all these wonderful things.

1202
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,280
Why hasn't she done it?

1203
01:08:02,580 --> 01:08:04,080
John C Dvorak: Just said,

1204
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:10,140
Unknown: I misunderstood you.
Hasn't

1205
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:13,380
she done it? She's been there
for three and a half years.

1206
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,920
They've had three and a half
years to fix the border. They've

1207
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,840
had three and a half years to
create jobs. And all the things

1208
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,280
we talked about. Why hasn't she
done it? She should leave right

1209
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,060
now. Go down to that beautiful
white house, go to the Capitol,

1210
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,820
get everyone together and do the
things you want to do, but you

1211
01:08:31,820 --> 01:08:35,180
haven't done it and you won't do
it because you believe in things

1212
01:08:35,180 --> 01:08:38,540
that the American people don't
believe in. You believe in

1213
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,620
things like, we're not going to
frack we're not going to take

1214
01:08:41,620 --> 01:08:44,620
fossil fuel. We're not going to
do things that are going to make

1215
01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:48,280
this country strong, whether you
like it or not, Germany tried

1216
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,360
that, and within one year, they
were back to building normal

1217
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:57,160
energy plants. We're not ready
for it. We can't sacrifice our

1218
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,960
country for the sake of bad
vision. But I just ask one

1219
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,820
simple question, why didn't she
do it? We're a failing nation.

1220
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:10,440
We're a nation that's in serious
decline. We're being laughed at

1221
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:13,200
all over the world. All over the
world, they're left. I know the

1222
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,560
leaders very well. They're
coming to see me. They call me.

1223
01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:19,500
We're laughed at all over the
world. They don't understand

1224
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:23,000
what happened to us as a nation.
We're not a leader. We don't

1225
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,840
have any idea what's going on.
We have wars going on in the

1226
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,160
Middle East. We have wars going
on with Russia and Ukraine.

1227
01:09:31,340 --> 01:09:34,520
We're going to end up in a third
world war, and it will be a war

1228
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,060
like no other because of nuclear
weapons, the power of weaponry.

1229
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:43,960
I rebuilt our entire military.
She gave a lot of it away to the

1230
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,280
Taliban. She gave it to
Afghanistan. What these people

1231
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,400
have done to our country, and
maybe toughest of all, is

1232
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,420
allowing millions of people to
come into our country. Many of

1233
01:09:55,420 --> 01:09:58,540
them are criminals, and they are
destroying our country. The

1234
01:09:58,540 --> 01:10:01,920
worst president, the worst.
First vice president in the

1235
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,800
history of our country. Yeah,

1236
01:10:04,860 --> 01:10:07,380
Adam Curry: I thought that was
good. That was, that was his

1237
01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:10,200
message. That was the whole
debate. That's right there. He

1238
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:11,280
the

1239
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,980
John C Dvorak: criticism of that
message was he should have used

1240
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:17,040
that thematically throughout the
debate. Well, he did, because

1241
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,860
people have tuned on there. I
don't know how many people

1242
01:10:19,860 --> 01:10:23,720
listen to the end, there was 67
point 1 million listeners, total

1243
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,000
Adam Curry: viewers, or
listeners, viewers, probably

1244
01:10:26,060 --> 01:10:26,660
viewers,

1245
01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:30,200
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. And I
don't know how many people were

1246
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,840
at the end. They were because it
was getting kind of boring.

1247
01:10:35,060 --> 01:10:39,260
Adam Curry: I'm sure people
tuned out like, Oh no, can't

1248
01:10:39,260 --> 01:10:41,020
watch. Can't watch.

1249
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,720
John C Dvorak: But as you listen
to these clips, stand alone,

1250
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,760
Trump sounds great. Making the

1251
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,020
Unknown: points, making the
points absolutely and

1252
01:10:50,020 --> 01:10:53,020
John C Dvorak: after they
they're regurgitated and run on

1253
01:10:53,020 --> 01:10:58,000
tick tock and elsewhere with
these guys over to dubbing

1254
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,800
everything. He wins the debate.
In hindsight. Now I don't know

1255
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,900
if he's going to do more
debates. I'll give you. There

1256
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:10,560
was an interesting stat that ran
on his debating Hillary,

1257
01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:12,540
Adam Curry: oh, he's already
been asking for one. I think.

1258
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,740
No, he's,

1259
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,380
John C Dvorak: he's, yeah. He
want, if they do it on Fox,

1260
01:11:16,380 --> 01:11:21,080
he'll do it, yeah, but do, but
he, if he does it, he said, NBC,

1261
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,420
for some unknown reason, he's
not going to do a debate there.

1262
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,740
But someone she had this poll
up, or it wasn't a poll. It was

1263
01:11:27,740 --> 01:11:30,800
a stat that when Hillary,
Hillary beat him all three

1264
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,640
debates, supposedly. And in
debate number one, her point

1265
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,920
total went up in terms of, in
terms of the election one point

1266
01:11:40,460 --> 01:11:44,920
after debate number two, she was
up by five, and after debate

1267
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,720
number three, she was up by
seven,

1268
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,300
Adam Curry: right? And then she
was aware of this, then she

1269
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:50,980
lost. It's amazing, and then she

1270
01:11:50,980 --> 01:11:55,240
John C Dvorak: lost, yes, which
is amazing, you're right, but if

1271
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,940
I was, I don't think, I think
those numbers are frightening.

1272
01:11:57,940 --> 01:12:02,640
It because he'll be beaten by
her again, or it appears to be

1273
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,080
He healed. I don't think he's
going to do anymore, unless it's

1274
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:07,680
on Fox.

1275
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,560
Adam Curry: Well, I don't think
these debates make that much

1276
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,780
difference. I really just don't,
by the way, regarding our

1277
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:20,040
previous episode, hey, I live in
Latvia, but Russian is my native

1278
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,480
tongue. Regarding John's comment
that Russians wouldn't hear

1279
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:26,420
comma they most definitely have
heard, especially her laugh.

1280
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,660
Russia is a country where people
are very outward focused. They

1281
01:12:29,660 --> 01:12:32,720
are and we're always interested
in what happens in the west and

1282
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,720
how the West sees them. On
federal channels. They are

1283
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,140
showing American election news
all the time. When someone goes

1284
01:12:39,140 --> 01:12:41,620
to America to visit or live, the
most common question from

1285
01:12:41,620 --> 01:12:44,620
Russians to them would be, so
what do Americans think about

1286
01:12:44,620 --> 01:12:48,700
Russia? And when they answer,
they mostly don't. They, they

1287
01:12:48,700 --> 01:12:54,700
don't believe it. Oh, all right,
that's a Vitali. Malaysia checks

1288
01:12:54,940 --> 01:12:58,360
believe it. Malaysia checks in.
In Malaysia, you think about

1289
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,920
Kamala, we think about the
laugh. So I think

1290
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:08,880
John C Dvorak: I got in Yes, I
was wrong. Okay, it appears that

1291
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,480
the Kamala laugh is more
universally accepted and known

1292
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:16,020
than I thought. Because I didn't
see any reason why it would be,

1293
01:13:16,020 --> 01:13:19,920
but I guess it is. So I guess
she's it's cold, nuts. Her hyena

1294
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,360
laugh is worldwide, well known.
It's tick tock.

1295
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,880
Adam Curry: It's the, it's the
it's the coconut Gambit. So I'm

1296
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,460
done with the debate. If you
are, we can move on. Oh, by the

1297
01:13:31,460 --> 01:13:33,800
way, did you see Biden put on
the Trump hat?

1298
01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:39,020
John C Dvorak: Yes, this was so
embarrassing. No, although, you

1299
01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:43,240
know, I have to wonder whether
he he knew what he was doing.

1300
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,940
No. I mean, is it possible that
Biden put on the Trump hat

1301
01:13:48,940 --> 01:13:52,360
because he could feel the oil?
They're going to give him the

1302
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:57,220
slack and flack for it, but he
knew he what he was doing,

1303
01:13:57,220 --> 01:14:00,780
because he doesn't like Camelot.
I think a bunch of stuff's going

1304
01:14:00,780 --> 01:14:03,240
to start coming out about camel.
More of these old clips are

1305
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,000
going to get dredged up. There's
a lot of them. There's a lot of

1306
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,060
dredged a few up on this show
already. There's a lot of time

1307
01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:13,560
for it, and we got 50 days for
more of it to come out. Uh,

1308
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,700
Adam Curry: now the the Trump
meme squad is out. No doubt

1309
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:20,120
they're out. The

1310
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,480
John C Dvorak: memes are out,
yes, and the other size memes

1311
01:14:23,540 --> 01:14:24,440
are not good.

1312
01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:30,020
Adam Curry: They have weak
memes. They're weak memers. So

1313
01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:34,880
Now switching gears, but staying
on immigration. We just heard

1314
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:39,860
that Germany, of course, is the
seam that the solar and wind

1315
01:14:39,860 --> 01:14:45,100
energy, the energy vendor and
blowing up their nuclear plants

1316
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:49,480
or closing them down. At best, I
think they actually imploded.

1317
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:51,580
Two of them, not a good idea.

1318
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,040
John C Dvorak: They completely
decommissioned a couple, yeah,

1319
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:55,060
not a good idea. So

1320
01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:57,520
Adam Curry: they're trying to
get back. Why they did it.

1321
01:14:57,580 --> 01:14:59,920
John C Dvorak: How did they get
talked into that stupidity?

1322
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:03,240
Adam Curry: Be Well, the Germans
since World War Two, they're,

1323
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,240
you know, they have guilt, and
they need to do what they're

1324
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,600
told, and they're very sorry
about everything, and they're

1325
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,740
traumatized people. But now,
with the alternative for

1326
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:19,140
Deutschlands rising saying, hey,
the people are pissed now. Now

1327
01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:21,920
the German government's trying
to change some things, controls

1328
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,320
Unknown: for those entering
Germany, such as this one near

1329
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,680
Poland, now looks set to become
widespread across the country's

1330
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,880
3700 kilometer long land border,
after ramping up security

1331
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,400
measures on several of its
frontiers last year, amid a

1332
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,460
surge in first time asylum
requests, Germany has announced

1333
01:15:37,460 --> 01:15:40,520
temporary internal checks at all
of the country's land borders.

1334
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:45,040
These are the same measures that
we are now taking with the Czech

1335
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,940
Republic, Poland, Austria and
Switzerland. We will then do

1336
01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:52,420
this with France, Belgium,
Luxembourg, the Netherlands and

1337
01:15:52,420 --> 01:15:55,420
Denmark. I have ordered this
today, and have already informed

1338
01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:56,620
the EU, starting

1339
01:15:56,620 --> 01:15:59,740
next Monday, the controls will
initially last for a period of

1340
01:15:59,740 --> 01:16:02,760
six months. The decision comes
after a deadly mass stabbing

1341
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,760
last month in the western city
of zollingen, claimed by the

1342
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,820
Islamic State group, an attack
which inflamed fierce debate

1343
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:11,640
over asylum rules when it
transpired that the main suspect

1344
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,940
was a Syrian refugee facing
deportation, the government has

1345
01:16:14,940 --> 01:16:17,340
sought a response to the
outrage. In the interior

1346
01:16:17,340 --> 01:16:20,240
Minister's view, stepping up
border security will help

1347
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,100
prevent such incidents in the
future,

1348
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,880
this will serve to further limit
irregular migration and protect

1349
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,360
against the acute dangers posed
by Islamist terror and serious

1350
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,720
crime. We are doing everything
we can to better protect the

1351
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,640
people in our country against
this.

1352
01:16:34,940 --> 01:16:38,540
Adam Curry: So I love the term
irregular migration, instead of

1353
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,640
illegal irregular migration. As
a person who grew up in the

1354
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,660
Netherlands, having a border and
having a checkpoint with Germany

1355
01:16:46,660 --> 01:16:50,620
is is hard to even fathom. I
mean, you just drive straight

1356
01:16:50,620 --> 01:16:53,860
through and then, and now we had
Brexit. And, well, actually,

1357
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:57,400
forget Brexit. We had the EU Oh,
you won't need passports and

1358
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,200
anything like that. Now is like
checks on the roadways. Things

1359
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,320
have got to be pretty bad. And
in general, this is something

1360
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,100
I've been tracking with
Amsterdam, but it's happening

1361
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:14,040
everywhere. We have the
irregular migration, destroying

1362
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,860
all the beautiful cities in the
European Union totally

1363
01:17:16,860 --> 01:17:20,120
destroying them, getting the
cheap labor in to run the

1364
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,140
tourism industry as the European
Union countries are now being

1365
01:17:24,140 --> 01:17:26,720
turned into Disneyland, Rome,

1366
01:17:26,780 --> 01:17:30,920
Unknown: Santorini, Barcelona,
Amsterdam, across Europe.

1367
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,520
Efforts of all different sorts
continue to roll in in a quest

1368
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,840
to curb mass tourism, a case of
biting the hand that feeds you,

1369
01:17:39,260 --> 01:17:42,760
or a necessary step to preserve
a local life. Such moves are

1370
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,120
steeped in controversy, with
frequent protests among locals,

1371
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,600
and as was the case this summer
in Mallorca, municipalities are

1372
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,860
trying to find solutions. One of
the latest a proposal to charge

1373
01:17:53,860 --> 01:17:57,280
two euros at the Trevi Fountain
in Rome for the city's top

1374
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,960
tourism official. The access fee
would help manage the crowds and

1375
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,500
help them store a better code of
conduct among visitors. The

1376
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,540
monument already has three
entrances, so one could imagine

1377
01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:14,220
an entrance, a normal exit and
an emergency exit. Of course, we

1378
01:18:14,220 --> 01:18:19,140
will experiment with this before
making it operational. The

1379
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:20,780
proposal

1380
01:18:20,780 --> 01:18:24,140
comes after Venice tested out a
five year old fee to visit this

1381
01:18:24,140 --> 01:18:27,320
spring and summer, Greece
announced it plans to levy a 20

1382
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,020
year old tax on cruise ship
visitors during the peak summer

1383
01:18:30,020 --> 01:18:33,920
season. The Prime Minister said,
overturism isn't a problem on

1384
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,160
the whole in Greece, but it is
becoming one in popular

1385
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:41,740
destinations like santorino
Mykonos, Barcelona, is also in

1386
01:18:41,740 --> 01:18:44,680
storing attacks on cruise ship
visitors that stay for less than

1387
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,160
12 hours. Already, the city's
mayor has vowed to end short

1388
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,820
term apartment rentals to
tourists by 2028 the city of

1389
01:18:51,820 --> 01:18:55,300
Bruges in Belgium also announced
its plans to crack down on short

1390
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:59,380
term rentals, and it has had a
cap of two cruise ships a day

1391
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,980
since 2019 in the nearby port of
ZBrush. Such moves come as the

1392
01:19:04,980 --> 01:19:09,120
UN's tourism agency says that
tourism is surging and exceeding

1393
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:13,500
expectations by 2% with Europe
remaining the world's top

1394
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:15,120
destination. I

1395
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,220
Adam Curry: mean, go ahead and
go take a look at these European

1396
01:19:17,220 --> 01:19:21,080
cities. It's all immigrants in
the shops, in the restaurants,

1397
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,040
regular or irregular, and it's
just been turned into one big

1398
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,580
Disneyland. So yeah, we might as
well charge him those Horowitz's

1399
01:19:28,580 --> 01:19:33,800
were their cruise ship coming
over here, parking in front of

1400
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:39,620
our beautiful beaches. We charge
you guys some money. This is,

1401
01:19:39,620 --> 01:19:42,700
this is a whole new world as
happening right before our very

1402
01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:43,300
eyes.

1403
01:19:44,980 --> 01:19:50,680
John C Dvorak: Well, there's a
lot of talk about Europe getting

1404
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,840
nuked by the Russians. Well,

1405
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,640
Adam Curry: that would certainly
make some room for people,

1406
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:55,180
wouldn't it?

1407
01:19:57,100 --> 01:20:00,300
John C Dvorak: And, yeah, would.
And I, you know, it seems to. I

1408
01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:03,180
think it's almost as if we are
encouraging it.

1409
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,420
Adam Curry: Yeah, did you see
the political article?

1410
01:20:07,260 --> 01:20:08,100
John C Dvorak: Which one? Oh,
there's

1411
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,140
Adam Curry: a political article
talking about, well, you know,

1412
01:20:10,140 --> 01:20:12,720
we're really, we're really
starting to think about long

1413
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,360
range weapons for Ukraine. Yes.

1414
01:20:15,420 --> 01:20:18,120
John C Dvorak: Well, here's, I
got two clips. Oh, good, good,

1415
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,600
Ukraine. Mole, mole, money clip

1416
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,160
Unknown: one and a half billion.
And Lam said, Britain will

1417
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,240
provide more than 700

1418
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,220
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. NTD let
me do this one.

1419
01:20:28,220 --> 01:20:30,800
Unknown: Secretary of State,
Anthony Blinken and British

1420
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,160
Foreign Secretary David Lammy
have arrived in Ukraine. They're

1421
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,940
on a joint visit to show support
for Kyiv. Ukraine is asking for

1422
01:20:37,940 --> 01:20:41,140
long range missiles to strike
deep into Russian territory, but

1423
01:20:41,140 --> 01:20:44,380
there are concerns in Washington
and some European capitals that

1424
01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:48,040
providing them would provoke
Russia into a direct conflict

1425
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,400
with the West. Officials also
recognize that Ukraine needs

1426
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,000
more support if it has turned
the war in its favor here up

1427
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,260
Lincoln and Lamy, the bottom

1428
01:20:56,260 --> 01:21:00,040
line is this, we want Ukraine to
win, and we're fully committed

1429
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,760
to keep marshaling the support
that it needs for its brave

1430
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,940
defenders and citizens, to do
just that. As we're meeting here

1431
01:21:05,940 --> 01:21:09,180
today, we're again seeing Putin
dust off his winter playbook

1432
01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:13,380
targeting Ukrainian energy and
electricity systems to weaponize

1433
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:15,660
the cold against the Ukrainian
people.

1434
01:21:15,660 --> 01:21:18,600
We're here to listen, to
understand the plan, to

1435
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,580
understand the strategy and
understand the needs across a

1436
01:21:22,580 --> 01:21:27,200
whole range of fronts. Yes, of
course, equipment, but of

1437
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,500
course, energy that has been
sabotaged, the support that's

1438
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:34,880
needed on the humanitarian front
over these next few months, and

1439
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,080
how we continue to mobilize the
international community on

1440
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,220
Ukraine's behalf.

1441
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:41,260
Blinken

1442
01:21:41,260 --> 01:21:44,140
has said he wants to hear
directly what kyiv's goals in

1443
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:47,560
the war are and what Washington
can do to help achieve them.

1444
01:21:47,740 --> 01:21:50,920
Zelensky has repeatedly pushed
for permission to use Western

1445
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,280
missiles to strike targets
within Russia President Joe

1446
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,300
Biden and UK Prime Minister Keir
Starmer are set to discuss the

1447
01:21:58,300 --> 01:22:02,040
issue in Washington on Friday.
Biden previously allowed Ukraine

1448
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,060
to fire us provided missiles
across the border into Russia in

1449
01:22:06,060 --> 01:22:09,360
self defense, but has largely
limited the distance over

1450
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,120
concerns about further
escalating the conflict.

1451
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:16,080
However, Russia suspects the
decision to give Ukraine long

1452
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,240
range missiles has already been
made.

1453
01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:23,180
Adam Curry: Well, it's law, I
mean, the all that the only

1454
01:22:23,180 --> 01:22:27,260
thing that has to happen is our
president, after they wake him

1455
01:22:27,260 --> 01:22:29,720
up at four in the afternoon, all
he has to say is, yeah, it's

1456
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:34,220
okay. It's already it's good to
go. Just have to say yes. And

1457
01:22:34,220 --> 01:22:38,660
the question is, when will they
say yes? And you know, this is

1458
01:22:38,660 --> 01:22:41,500
the military guys. They're,
they're the ones running all

1459
01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:44,920
this, and they don't care. What
city do you think will get hit

1460
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,080
first in in Europe? Kia,

1461
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,240
John C Dvorak: Kyiv, yes,

1462
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,420
Adam Curry: Kyiv, but that would
just be a start.

1463
01:22:53,380 --> 01:22:55,600
John C Dvorak: No, once you did
one, then all hell would break

1464
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,120
loose. And they'd had, you know,
if they wanted to have some fun,

1465
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,500
they'd flatten Paris.

1466
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,580
Unknown: I now,

1467
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,240
Adam Curry: why would that

1468
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,040
John C Dvorak: be? The French
are the big talkers about

1469
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,420
sending troops over there

1470
01:23:10,380 --> 01:23:13,740
Adam Curry: if you want to have
some fun, yeah, blow that Eiffel

1471
01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:17,460
Tower up. So I play the second
clip this, UK. Yes,

1472
01:23:17,460 --> 01:23:19,680
John C Dvorak: the second clip
is just, it's about the UK.

1473
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:20,160
Yeah, Panda

1474
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,480
Unknown: Lam said, Britain will
provide more than $780 million

1475
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,840
in additional support to
Ukraine. It will include around

1476
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,640
350 million for humanitarian
needs and over 480 million in

1477
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,940
loan guarantees before the end
of the year. That's in addition

1478
01:23:34,940 --> 01:23:39,080
to nearly $4 billion a year of
military support Britain has

1479
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,460
already committed to Ukraine for
as long as needed.

1480
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,000
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so just 4
billion a year for as long as

1481
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,740
needed. So just to

1482
01:23:47,740 --> 01:23:51,820
Adam Curry: recap, this goes
back to 2014 when Victoria

1483
01:23:51,820 --> 01:23:56,140
Newland came in. Started, the
Maidan, John McCain, Brennan,

1484
01:23:56,140 --> 01:23:59,740
everyone was over there getting,
getting everything all all

1485
01:23:59,740 --> 01:24:03,120
started. Of course, you know, we
had all kinds of corruption with

1486
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:07,260
children of our elites who were
making money there, Hunter

1487
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:12,000
Biden, but also Romney's kid,
all kinds of money just being

1488
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,320
made, left and right. And before
this all started, there was a

1489
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,020
peace treaty on the table. The
peace treaty was, was it looked

1490
01:24:21,020 --> 01:24:24,920
like everyone was okay with it.
Because why was Putin mad?

1491
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,760
Because Zelensky came out and
said, Well, you know, I think we

1492
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,460
should probably get some NATO
nuclear weapons here. Don't you

1493
01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:35,600
think that's a good idea? Am I
recalling that timeline more or

1494
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,180
less correctly, more or less and
Boris Johnson went over and

1495
01:24:40,180 --> 01:24:44,200
said, hey, yeah, you can't sign
this peace deal that came much

1496
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,760
later. You can't sign this peace
deal much later. Yeah,

1497
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,980
John C Dvorak: it would because
they had the peace deal done.

1498
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,840
Yes, it was the Minsk. I think
this is the Minsk, one min and

1499
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,720
as they were going to implement
it, that's when Boris Johnson

1500
01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:59,680
went over there

1501
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,640
Adam Curry: and. And this was
detailed in a recent interview,

1502
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:08,220
an interview with the one the
only Victoria Nudelman, ie

1503
01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:09,240
Nuland. There

1504
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,600
Unknown: was a story first told
by former Israeli Prime Minister

1505
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,860
navtali Bennett that that both
sides were really close to the

1506
01:25:16,860 --> 01:25:22,040
end to the successful end of the
negotiations. And then Prime

1507
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,860
Minister Boris Johnson,
interfered and stopped

1508
01:25:26,540 --> 01:25:30,320
Ukrainians. Prevented Ukrainians
from from signing, signing the

1509
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,880
deal. And then Ukrainian
Representative arahami, kind of

1510
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:39,740
confirmed that, yes, he said in
an interview that there was some

1511
01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:42,160
kind of advice from Boris
Johnson to

1512
01:25:43,660 --> 01:25:47,860
stop negotiating and to win this
war militarily. Where is the

1513
01:25:47,860 --> 01:25:49,600
myth? Where is the truth?

1514
01:25:49,780 --> 01:25:57,460
Relatively late in the game, the
Ukrainians began asking for

1515
01:25:57,460 --> 01:26:02,700
advice on where this thing was
going. And it became clear to

1516
01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:08,460
us, clear to the Brits, clear to
others, that Putin's main

1517
01:26:08,460 --> 01:26:15,600
condition was buried in an annex
to this document that they were

1518
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,200
working on.

1519
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,080
Adam Curry: Oh, it was secret.
He buried it. It was a very

1520
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,100
secret, secret demand he had,

1521
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:26,780
Unknown: and it included limits
on the precise kinds of weapons

1522
01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:30,320
systems that Ukraine could have.
Yeah,

1523
01:26:30,380 --> 01:26:35,720
Adam Curry: NATO, nuclear
weapons. Oh, well, that was just

1524
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:36,380
horrible

1525
01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:40,040
Unknown: after the deal such
that Ukraine would basically be

1526
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:44,440
neutered as a military force,
and there were no similar

1527
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:46,180
constraints on Russia.

1528
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,320
Oh,

1529
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:52,840
Adam Curry: so there she is,
full admission. So that's why

1530
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,300
they stopped the deal, because
the whole thing was about in the

1531
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:58,660
first place, about the nuclear
weapons, which Ukraine never

1532
01:26:58,660 --> 01:27:01,920
had. Ukraine is not a NATO
member, but they wanted to sneak

1533
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,480
it in, encroaching on Russia.
And, yeah, I mean, remember when

1534
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:10,980
Cuba had some nuclear missiles?
Well, we, we, we had to deal

1535
01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:16,500
with that, didn't we? These
people are horrible. And you

1536
01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:19,560
know what? She's so horrible.
She's become to look like the

1537
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,260
person she is on the inside.
Yeah,

1538
01:27:21,260 --> 01:27:23,180
John C Dvorak: she's starting to
she looks exactly like a

1539
01:27:23,180 --> 01:27:25,340
horrible person. Jabba the Hutt,
yes.

1540
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:30,080
Adam Curry: Here we go. Yeah,
yeah. The EU, yeah, that's what

1541
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:34,220
she said. She doesn't care about
you. EU, she didn't care about

1542
01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:35,180
you. You'll see.

1543
01:27:35,660 --> 01:27:37,460
John C Dvorak: I'm actually
surprised that that clip didn't

1544
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:38,720
have more backlash

1545
01:27:39,860 --> 01:27:42,340
Unknown: the interview. No, no,

1546
01:27:42,340 --> 01:27:46,600
John C Dvorak: the FD, FDU. When
she said, everyone in the EU

1547
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,260
heard it, don't

1548
01:27:47,260 --> 01:27:49,180
Adam Curry: you remember the the
reporting, or she said an

1549
01:27:49,180 --> 01:27:53,980
expletive, they only focused on
the F word, not on the actual

1550
01:27:53,980 --> 01:27:55,300
what it was about, like

1551
01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:58,180
John C Dvorak: I was targeting
the EU, yeah, well, which is, of

1552
01:27:58,180 --> 01:28:01,080
course, I think the EU should be
targeted, and I think they've

1553
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,280
I'm not the only one who thinks
that way, and I think pushing a

1554
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:10,620
nuke nuclear exchange within
Europe and Russia would suit us

1555
01:28:10,620 --> 01:28:14,880
just fine, as long as they don't
shoot one at us. God, don't you

1556
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,680
think? I mean, am I wrong?

1557
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:20,720
Adam Curry: No, but I'm. I'm a
little more pacifist in this can

1558
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:21,260
we? Can

1559
01:28:21,260 --> 01:28:23,420
John C Dvorak: we don't like the
idea, but I'm just saying it

1560
01:28:23,420 --> 01:28:25,760
seems that that's what we're
we're up to, and they're gonna

1561
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,900
start well that we haven't
provoked one yet. So let's just

1562
01:28:30,140 --> 01:28:33,560
give them some long range
missiles and maybe a couple of

1563
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,080
shots at Moscow might trigger
it. Yeah. We

1564
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,300
Adam Curry: gotta get this
going, people. We gotta move.

1565
01:28:38,300 --> 01:28:42,580
Move, move. All right. I got to
switch, switch gears. I got to

1566
01:28:42,580 --> 01:28:44,260
move to something funny. Well,

1567
01:28:44,260 --> 01:28:48,280
John C Dvorak: before, oh, okay,
well, I want to play well,

1568
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:49,180
Adam Curry: what do you have?
What

1569
01:28:49,180 --> 01:28:50,860
John C Dvorak: do you have?
Well, I want to play these.

1570
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:54,340
These. There's some protests
going on around the world. Okay,

1571
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:59,080
well, that's not funny. Yeah,
no, it's not funny, no. But

1572
01:28:59,140 --> 01:29:01,480
before I play that, I do want to
play this, since it kind of

1573
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:03,660
relates to the clips you just
played. You just played, which

1574
01:29:03,660 --> 01:29:06,960
is the BBC had a representative
Poland on and I just want to

1575
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,360
this was showed up on Tiktok.
And I just thought it was a good

1576
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,860
clip, because it shows you that
in some Poland and Hungary in

1577
01:29:13,860 --> 01:29:18,840
particular, they actually the
leaders there care about the

1578
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,920
people they're representing. And
I thought this was a good

1579
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,200
exchange to classic BBC. How

1580
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,460
Unknown: many refugees has
Poland taken? Zero. And you're

1581
01:29:28,460 --> 01:29:29,300
proud of that.

1582
01:29:29,780 --> 01:29:32,840
If you are asking me, if you're
if you are asking me about

1583
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:38,360
Muslim Muslims, illegal
immigration, none. Not even one

1584
01:29:38,420 --> 01:29:42,400
will come to Poland. Not even
one. If it's illegal, we took

1585
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,300
over 2 million Ukrainians who
are working, who are peaceful in

1586
01:29:46,300 --> 01:29:50,020
Poland, we will not receive even
one Muslim, because this is what

1587
01:29:50,020 --> 01:29:50,980
we promised. But

1588
01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:55,720
I asked illegal immigrants. I
asked about refugees and Jean

1589
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,480
Claude Juncker, the commission
president, says that you're

1590
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,100
racist. You sound. Proud of the
fact that you haven't taken any

1591
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,060
refugees,

1592
01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:06,600
of course, because this is what
our people expecting from our

1593
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,020
government. That's number one.
This is why our government was

1594
01:30:10,260 --> 01:30:15,840
elected, but this is why Poland
is so safe. This is the reason

1595
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,620
why we have not even one
terrorist attack. Look at the

1596
01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:24,200
streets in Poland, and we can be
called populists, nationalists,

1597
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,160
racists. I don't care. I care
about my family and about my

1598
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:29,540
country. Now

1599
01:30:29,540 --> 01:30:33,620
Adam Curry: that's no good.
Can't have that. Caring about

1600
01:30:33,620 --> 01:30:38,060
your country. Maybe in Poland
you get a nuke. That's what

1601
01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:42,580
John C Dvorak: that's the
interesting angle to that was,

1602
01:30:42,580 --> 01:30:46,660
this is what the people wanted.
They wanted to be protected from

1603
01:30:46,660 --> 01:30:51,340
the bull crap and, well, that
that guy. We're not seeing that.

1604
01:30:51,340 --> 01:30:54,340
Here we see protecting the
bankers, as you mentioned. Keep

1605
01:30:54,340 --> 01:30:58,120
mentioning that. Yeah, yeah. You
know the benefits the bankers,

1606
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:58,300
or

1607
01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:01,500
Adam Curry: some would say, the
Jews. It's not just bankers.

1608
01:31:05,580 --> 01:31:07,620
John C Dvorak: Do you know
here's so what I wanted to post

1609
01:31:07,620 --> 01:31:10,380
the anti arms protests in
Philly. This was interesting,

1610
01:31:10,380 --> 01:31:14,640
because this, I think this is a
democracy now clip, you might

1611
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,120
want to put the warning up, but,
oh boy, this was not reported

1612
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:18,900
anywhere.

1613
01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:23,300
Adam Curry: Oh man, where's the
Amy clip? I can't find Amy good

1614
01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:24,140
John C Dvorak: Don't you have to
play

1615
01:31:24,140 --> 01:31:26,720
Unknown: it. In Philadelphia,
several people were arrested

1616
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,080
Tuesday evening as hundreds of
protesters gathered outside the

1617
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,320
venue of the presidential debate
between Kamala Harris and Donald

1618
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,960
Trump to demand an end to us
support for Israel's war on

1619
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:36,860
Gaza. I'm definitely

1620
01:31:36,860 --> 01:31:41,320
not going to be voting for Trump
or Harris. Terrible war

1621
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,000
criminals, and Kamala

1622
01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:46,840
want to act like she's one of
the people, and she is not. She

1623
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,660
is part of the same
administration sending bonds to

1624
01:31:49,660 --> 01:31:49,840
death

1625
01:31:52,540 --> 01:31:55,900
ahead of Tuesday's debate,
Minnesota Governor and

1626
01:31:55,900 --> 01:31:58,960
democratic vice presidential
nominee Tim Walz was heckled by

1627
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,340
pro Palestine protesters during
a campaign event in Phoenix,

1628
01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:05,160
Arizona. Meanwhile, in
Australia, hundreds of

1629
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,460
protesters rallied outside a
weapons industry convention in

1630
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:12,180
Melbourne. Earlier today, police
fired stun grenades, rubber

1631
01:32:12,180 --> 01:32:14,580
bullets and pepper spray,
arresting dozens of

1632
01:32:14,580 --> 01:32:17,640
demonstrators. Hundreds of
weapons traders representing at

1633
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,880
least 30 countries are expected
to attend the land Force's 2024

1634
01:32:21,420 --> 01:32:23,660
military weapons Expo this week.
Oh,

1635
01:32:23,660 --> 01:32:27,500
Adam Curry: the weapons Expo
shopping. Let's go shopping. Is

1636
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:32,000
Zelensky showing up? Expo? Is
Zelensky showing up? Let's go

1637
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,220
shopping. I want some holy
range. Love

1638
01:32:34,220 --> 01:32:36,320
John C Dvorak: to go to the
weapons Expo.

1639
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:41,200
Adam Curry: I bet it's a hoot. I
bet I bet there's a lot of

1640
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,040
partying going on there. Can you
imagine those parties? Speaking

1641
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:45,220
it's

1642
01:32:45,220 --> 01:32:47,320
John C Dvorak: got to be better
than anything the computer

1643
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,180
industry ever put on. Well,

1644
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,360
Adam Curry: speaking of such,
have you ever partied with Larry

1645
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:52,840
Ellison?

1646
01:32:55,180 --> 01:32:57,640
John C Dvorak: I have never
partied with Larry Ellison, but

1647
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:01,740
I do know him. You've met him?
Yeah, I actually introduced him

1648
01:33:01,740 --> 01:33:04,320
at an event once, and then I've
run into him a couple of times.

1649
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:04,620
Can you

1650
01:33:04,620 --> 01:33:06,120
Adam Curry: give me a
characterization of Larry

1651
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,240
Ellison? I mean, I've met him
once. He would, Oracle was my

1652
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:13,140
client when we had think new
ideas. Actually, Ray Lane was,

1653
01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:17,280
was the big finance guy there,
who later was our VC at Kleiner

1654
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:21,980
Perkins, and, and, you know,
and, and we, we did a Super Bowl

1655
01:33:21,980 --> 01:33:27,320
promotion for Oracle. We did the
ad for them, and we did the Sign

1656
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:32,360
Up website. It must have been,
wow, 98 there was a 98 Super

1657
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,860
Bowl. Does that sound right? I
didn't know, yeah. And he seemed

1658
01:33:36,860 --> 01:33:38,720
like a sharp guy to me. How
about you?

1659
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,720
John C Dvorak: I've always
thought he seems like a very

1660
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:46,660
smart guy, not a complete
asshole that I could tell, and

1661
01:33:46,660 --> 01:33:48,580
likable, very likable. I

1662
01:33:48,580 --> 01:33:53,740
Adam Curry: hear he's got great
weed. Just kidding. I hear he's

1663
01:33:53,740 --> 01:33:57,160
got great weed. I'm just
kidding. So he's now that he

1664
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,180
stepped down from Oracle as the
Chief Executive Officer. He's

1665
01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:04,860
now the Chief Technology
Officer, which I think, I think

1666
01:34:04,860 --> 01:34:08,280
kind of makes sense. I mean, is
he really a tech guy? You always

1667
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:09,960
see more like a sales guy? To
me,

1668
01:34:11,460 --> 01:34:13,560
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's kind
of a tech guy because, oh,

1669
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,880
Adam Curry: I remember we also
produced the introduction of the

1670
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:21,380
the network computer. What was
that? Was it called the network

1671
01:34:21,380 --> 01:34:23,540
computer? You remember that
debacle?

1672
01:34:24,260 --> 01:34:26,480
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was a
little company rolled out now,

1673
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:29,720
Gina Smith, actually, he named
her CEO of that thing for a

1674
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:35,000
while. That was too early. That
was mistimed. It didn't work

1675
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,280
out. It was a it was disaster,
yeah. So

1676
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,500
Adam Curry: we did, what was the
name? Was it net? I had a name.

1677
01:34:39,500 --> 01:34:39,560
I

1678
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,520
John C Dvorak: think it was
called network computer systems,

1679
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:43,060
or something

1680
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:45,820
Adam Curry: simple like that.
Because I remember we did the

1681
01:34:45,820 --> 01:34:49,000
the launch of that in New York
City. And it was, it was we

1682
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,520
didn't do the production of it.
The stage production was

1683
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:56,920
amazing. It had explosions and
then all kinds of smoke and and

1684
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,920
like a helicopter flying through
the air. And it was a big.

1685
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,680
Production. And then larisson
Ellison's opening line was, I

1686
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,440
come to work that way every day.
I mean, it was, it was really,

1687
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:11,760
it was a great bit. So Oracle
had a great had a great quarter.

1688
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:16,440
Everybody, great cue, great cue,
guys, great cue that based upon

1689
01:35:16,500 --> 01:35:21,260
AI. And I hadn't really expected
that. I didn't expect Oracle,

1690
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:26,120
nobody did. No and and so I
listened to the earnings call.

1691
01:35:26,780 --> 01:35:30,020
And the in the earnings call,
they also have their 2025,

1692
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,260
guidance, oh, we're going to
tell you how great it's going to

1693
01:35:33,260 --> 01:35:38,600
be. And so this is where the
analysts call in, well, first as

1694
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:42,340
a statement, you know, from the
CFO and the CEO and talk about

1695
01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:45,640
how great they are, and then
they have the analysts and

1696
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,580
people who are doing coverage on
the company call up and ask

1697
01:35:48,580 --> 01:35:51,340
questions, and most of them
start with, hey, great quarter,

1698
01:35:51,340 --> 01:35:53,320
guys. You really knocked it out
of the park. That's really

1699
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,500
great. Here's the question I
have for you, and in these

1700
01:35:56,500 --> 01:35:59,800
answers, this is where you want
to provide guidance, which you

1701
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,000
know should make your stock
become very attractive to

1702
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,540
institutional investors, etc. Am
I characterizing that correctly?

1703
01:36:06,900 --> 01:36:10,140
More or less. If you want to add
anything that I not do that

1704
01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:12,180
right? Well, typically,

1705
01:36:12,780 --> 01:36:16,500
John C Dvorak: the people in
Silicon Valley try to under,

1706
01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:22,460
under, under promote to get
better results. So you say,

1707
01:36:22,460 --> 01:36:24,680
well, we're gonna we look like
we're gonna do this much, and

1708
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,080
then they do that much, plus a
panty, and the stock goes

1709
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,700
skyrocket. Here's what they're
trying to

1710
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,000
Adam Curry: do well. So Ellison
is here to promote the

1711
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,780
technology that Oracle has and
how much money they're going to

1712
01:36:35,780 --> 01:36:39,020
make from it. So I have a couple
clips here. Larry,

1713
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:42,280
Unknown: how do you envision the
market, transitioning from the

1714
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,120
AI training phase to the AI
inferencing phase, there's,

1715
01:36:46,180 --> 01:36:50,380
there's some debate out there on
whether we have an imbalance or

1716
01:36:50,380 --> 01:36:54,100
a bubble on the front end of the
curve, because training is a

1717
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:56,740
compute intensive and then
perhaps it recalibrates

1718
01:36:57,580 --> 01:37:00,660
differently somehow for the
inferencing Stage, which might

1719
01:37:00,660 --> 01:37:04,620
be less intensive, or do you see
the potential for high growth,

1720
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:09,660
kind of all the way through both
of these phases? Well, a lot of

1721
01:37:09,660 --> 01:37:12,360
people think that, my God, I
send the kid to college, and

1722
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,300
then I'm done. The training is
over. I got four years of

1723
01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:17,820
training, and then then I can
put the kid to work, and they'll

1724
01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:22,820
be doing inferencing. And that's
not true. This race goes on

1725
01:37:22,820 --> 01:37:31,280
forever to build a better and
better neural network, and the

1726
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,900
cost of that training gets to be
astronomical. When I talk about

1727
01:37:35,900 --> 01:37:40,600
building gigawatt or multi
gigawatt data centers, I mean

1728
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:45,280
these AI models, these these
frontier models, are going to

1729
01:37:45,340 --> 01:37:48,460
the entry price for a real
frontier model from someone

1730
01:37:48,460 --> 01:37:52,420
wants to compete in that area is
around $100 billion let me

1731
01:37:52,420 --> 01:37:55,360
repeat around $100 billion
that's over the next four or

1732
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,440
five years, for anyone who wants
to play in that game. That's a

1733
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:02,220
lot of money, and it doesn't get
it doesn't get easier. So

1734
01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:04,800
they're not going to be a lot of
those. I mean, we could, you

1735
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,280
know, this is not the place to
list. Who can actually build one

1736
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:09,420
of these frontier models.

1737
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,820
Adam Curry: $100 billion will be
the entry price to play in this

1738
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:22,040
AI game seems high, and I had to
look up frontier models, which

1739
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,100
is just a fancy word for the
newest models, is not like

1740
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:27,740
anything special is a frontier.
Oh, it's frontier like we're a

1741
01:38:27,740 --> 01:38:33,860
frontier podcast. So, hmm, what?
What can these specialized

1742
01:38:33,860 --> 01:38:35,540
models do? Larry,

1743
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:37,940
Unknown: but in addition to
that, they're going to be a lot

1744
01:38:37,940 --> 01:38:40,540
of very, very specialized
models. I can tell you things

1745
01:38:40,540 --> 01:38:45,760
that I'm personally involved in
which which are using computers

1746
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:52,660
to look at slide biopsies of
slides or CAT scans to discover

1747
01:38:52,660 --> 01:38:54,880
cancer. Also discover

1748
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,000
Adam Curry: cancer. Have we
already discovered cancer?

1749
01:38:58,780 --> 01:39:00,820
Discover cancer. They're

1750
01:39:00,820 --> 01:39:02,580
Unknown: also blood tests we're
doing for, you know, for

1751
01:39:02,580 --> 01:39:04,320
discovering cancer. Those

1752
01:39:04,740 --> 01:39:07,380
Adam Curry: sounds like
Theranos, anybody. We'll do a

1753
01:39:07,380 --> 01:39:09,960
blood test and run the AI over
it, and then we'll discover

1754
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,300
cancer. Uh huh, okay, for, you
know, if

1755
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:14,820
Unknown: we're discovering
cancer, those tend to be very

1756
01:39:14,820 --> 01:39:18,900
specialized models. Those, those
tend not necessarily to use the

1757
01:39:18,900 --> 01:39:23,120
foundational, you know, that,
you know, the groks and the open

1758
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:28,100
and the chatgpt and the llamas
and and the Geminis, they tend

1759
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,140
to be highly specialized models.
Wow.

1760
01:39:30,140 --> 01:39:32,240
Adam Curry: So all that's bull
crap. You want to come to us,

1761
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,820
because we can detect cancer in
your blood, which I think

1762
01:39:34,820 --> 01:39:38,480
there's pretty good tests for,
but for some reason we needed to

1763
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:41,020
have ai do it. So maybe you can
just run into the drugstore.

1764
01:39:41,020 --> 01:39:43,840
This is Theranos. This is
literally what Theranos was

1765
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,600
saying they could do. Oh, you
just do a quick little prick on

1766
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,480
your finger, and then we'll see
if you have cancer. So then the

1767
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:53,320
big question comes, hey, is
anyone going to monetize this

1768
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,560
stuff? Can anyone make any money
on this AI stuff?

1769
01:39:56,620 --> 01:39:58,720
Unknown: You already have
traditional AI sprinkled

1770
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,800
throughout all the oracles?
Products and capabilities, but

1771
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:05,400
where do you see the
monetization, monetizable value

1772
01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:08,940
of Gen AI and the app side? How
long do you think it's going to

1773
01:40:08,940 --> 01:40:12,900
take for Gen AI to be a
meaningful revenue, not just for

1774
01:40:12,900 --> 01:40:15,540
Oracle, but software in general,
on the app side, not on the

1775
01:40:15,540 --> 01:40:18,960
training side. Thank you. Let me
start with with health care,

1776
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:25,400
from everything from, uh, us
helping doctors diagnose

1777
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,160
Adam Curry: different what?

1778
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:30,080
John C Dvorak: Cancer?

1779
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:33,080
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, this is
what's crazy. You I'm just

1780
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,140
joking. No, keep playing. You're
laughing. You're joking. But

1781
01:40:36,140 --> 01:40:41,600
Unknown: that's it. Us helping
doctors diagnose, you know,

1782
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:50,500
different diseases. When someone
goes in to get a sonogram, and

1783
01:40:50,500 --> 01:40:55,180
I've seen Hamana, Hamana,
Hamana, the nurses and the

1784
01:40:55,180 --> 01:40:58,180
technicians and the doctors
actually measure the baby's

1785
01:40:58,180 --> 01:41:01,920
skull and measure the baby's
spinal cord to see how the baby

1786
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,720
that's utterly ridiculous. Let

1787
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,520
Adam Curry: ai do that. You
don't need to look at a

1788
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,120
sonogram. Doctor, no, no, we
need $100 billion to have aI

1789
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,960
tell us that the umbilical cord
is wrapped around the baby's

1790
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,160
neck. The

1791
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:16,740
Unknown: computer should do all
of that. And if there's an

1792
01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:19,560
umbilical wrapped around the
fetus's neck, the computer

1793
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,040
should discover all of that, and
that should all be recorded. The

1794
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,740
doctor could get assistance from
a computer doing all of this

1795
01:41:24,740 --> 01:41:26,120
stuff, let the doctor know

1796
01:41:26,180 --> 01:41:28,820
Adam Curry: that whether there's
it's called a medical student,

1797
01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:30,200
Larry, there's stability

1798
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:34,760
Unknown: or disease progression
or whatever the doctor needs to

1799
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,300
know prior to the consultation
with the patient. That summary

1800
01:41:38,300 --> 01:41:42,040
is presented, created by AI,
human readable summary.

1801
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,060
Adam Curry: It prints out a
report, okay, the umbilical

1802
01:41:46,060 --> 01:41:48,580
cords wrapped around the baby's
neck. Oh, that's good. I'm glad

1803
01:41:48,580 --> 01:41:51,400
I know that going into this
consultation, then

1804
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,520
Unknown: AI listens to the
consultation between the doctor

1805
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,220
and the patient. This is already
delivered. This is already out

1806
01:41:57,220 --> 01:41:57,580
there. It

1807
01:41:57,580 --> 01:41:59,380
Adam Curry: does a transcript,
just like we have for the

1808
01:41:59,380 --> 01:42:01,080
podcast, delivered to listen to
the

1809
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,300
Unknown: constellation with
Doctor, the patient. If the

1810
01:42:03,300 --> 01:42:05,640
doctor orders a prescription,
the AI checks to make sure the

1811
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,540
prescription is accurate and
enters the prescription the

1812
01:42:09,540 --> 01:42:12,180
doctor, the AI updates the
electronic health. Does

1813
01:42:12,180 --> 01:42:14,460
Adam Curry: this sound a lot
like your fridge will know when

1814
01:42:14,460 --> 01:42:17,220
your milk is out and will
automatically order it for you.

1815
01:42:17,220 --> 01:42:20,880
This is a Rube Goldberg machine
that cost $100 billion

1816
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:25,880
Unknown: records the AI
transcribes and distributes lost

1817
01:42:26,060 --> 01:42:29,120
doctors orders, all from
listening to the conversation,

1818
01:42:29,420 --> 01:42:32,420
the doctor then gets a draft at
the end of the conversation that

1819
01:42:32,420 --> 01:42:36,320
the doctor can quickly review
and approve, and then the

1820
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,620
prescriptions are filled and the
orders and the order order

1821
01:42:39,620 --> 01:42:42,640
orders are executed and the
electronic health records are

1822
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,220
updated. We're already doing all
of that.

1823
01:42:45,220 --> 01:42:48,340
Adam Curry: Oh, it's amazing.
Oh, this is just already

1824
01:42:48,340 --> 01:42:50,440
John C Dvorak: doing all of
that. Why do they need the 100

1825
01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:52,660
billion dollar investment? Ah,
well, he

1826
01:42:52,660 --> 01:42:55,300
Adam Curry: has a kicker here.
This is the final clip, and at

1827
01:42:55,300 --> 01:42:57,880
the end, you'll hear him fall
apart and do something you

1828
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,560
should never do, by the way,
he's channeling Ron Bloom here,

1829
01:43:01,980 --> 01:43:05,940
that whole sequence of well, you
know, then automatically, the

1830
01:43:05,940 --> 01:43:09,060
podcast will be delivered, and
we'll insert an ad, and we'll be

1831
01:43:09,060 --> 01:43:11,760
able to track that and know if
the person went into the store

1832
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:17,340
online, and the future is just
limitless for $100 billion and

1833
01:43:17,340 --> 01:43:21,200
now Larry's gonna screw it up,
But first he's going to explain

1834
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,940
what this really is. A spoiler
alert. It's a chat bot, just

1835
01:43:25,940 --> 01:43:29,540
Unknown: the user interface, our
user interface, you say, Oracle,

1836
01:43:29,660 --> 01:43:33,740
please show me Larry Ellison's
latest X rays. We it's a voice

1837
01:43:33,740 --> 01:43:36,140
interface. You just ask for
them. You know,

1838
01:43:36,980 --> 01:43:37,820
Siri. How

1839
01:43:37,820 --> 01:43:41,500
do you log on? Well, you look at
the computer, and it recognizes

1840
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:43,900
your face and it recognizes your
voice, that knows you're the

1841
01:43:43,900 --> 01:43:44,260
doctor

1842
01:43:44,260 --> 01:43:46,120
Adam Curry: and you're
authorized to look at that. My

1843
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:47,680
Microsoft laptop does that.

1844
01:43:47,980 --> 01:43:50,980
Unknown: All the authorization
is done with AI. You know, when

1845
01:43:50,980 --> 01:43:54,820
are we going to start monetizing
it? AI is just, I don't know.

1846
01:43:54,820 --> 01:43:56,920
Adam Curry: This is where he
this is the biggest mistake he

1847
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,300
could have made when, because he
doesn't understand about apps.

1848
01:44:00,420 --> 01:44:04,620
He's talking about Oracle, and
he's making a big mistake here.

1849
01:44:04,620 --> 01:44:05,220
When are we going

1850
01:44:05,220 --> 01:44:08,460
Unknown: to start monetizing it?
AI is just, I don't know how to

1851
01:44:08,460 --> 01:44:12,180
describe the best way describe
it. It's not something you sell

1852
01:44:12,180 --> 01:44:16,860
separately. What it is, it is,
it is the diagnosis. It's the

1853
01:44:16,860 --> 01:44:20,100
diagnostic system, it's the
electronic health record system.

1854
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:25,940
It is the pharmacy system, this
prescription system, the user

1855
01:44:25,940 --> 01:44:29,900
authentication, the login
system. It's all AI. And I know

1856
01:44:29,900 --> 01:44:32,900
people think it's a separate
thing that, oh my God, and I

1857
01:44:32,900 --> 01:44:35,000
hear a bunch of applications,
and they say, Oh, we got, we

1858
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,360
got, now got AI agents we'll
charge for separately. I mean,

1859
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:44,140
it's our applications are going
to be primarily AI applications,

1860
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,280
everything. How do you charge
separately for everything? I

1861
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,940
really don't I find it
bewildering when I listen to

1862
01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:56,020
them talk. I don't understand
what they're saying. I wonder,

1863
01:44:56,440 --> 01:44:57,700
I'll stop there. Yeah,

1864
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,540
Adam Curry: you'll stop there.
He just said, we. No way of

1865
01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:06,780
making extra money on it. This
was a bad, bad mistake he made

1866
01:45:06,780 --> 01:45:12,360
here, and it's vapor. There's
nothing. Oh, yeah, you're gonna

1867
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:13,320
need $100 billion

1868
01:45:13,860 --> 01:45:15,900
John C Dvorak: somebody's got to
come up with a jingle for the

1869
01:45:15,900 --> 01:45:22,340
Adam curry. I hate AI segment of
the show. It's a bubble.

1870
01:45:23,180 --> 01:45:26,480
Adam Curry: Well, Did you by any
chance watch the Apple event,

1871
01:45:26,480 --> 01:45:30,740
the special Apple event. I saw
some of it. I can give you.

1872
01:45:30,740 --> 01:45:32,360
Would you like my summary? Would
you Well,

1873
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,360
John C Dvorak: I'm sure your
summary is as good as any Well,

1874
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:35,720
I'd like

1875
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:39,740
Adam Curry: to hear your your
version first. Hey,

1876
01:45:39,740 --> 01:45:41,440
John C Dvorak: we got some stuff
that's going to come out. We're

1877
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:43,660
going to make a special phone,
and this is going to be the

1878
01:45:43,660 --> 01:45:46,240
greatest thing is sliced bread.
You have to buy this very

1879
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,240
expensive phone. It's going to
be overpriced. But don't worry

1880
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,900
about it, because we're going to
have software someday that might

1881
01:45:52,900 --> 01:45:56,500
take advantage of this
overpriced phone very

1882
01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:59,560
Adam Curry: close to mine.
Except I have some keywords.

1883
01:45:59,980 --> 01:46:04,800
Everything we make is gorgeous.
Our new chips will help you find

1884
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:08,700
fix and fake pictures and videos
of your otherwise boring life

1885
01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:12,780
and make you feel like you're
awesome and gorgeous. Our AI

1886
01:46:12,780 --> 01:46:16,860
will help you get things done as
soon as we release it, which is

1887
01:46:16,860 --> 01:46:21,140
soon, everything's the same
price, but 20% bigger and 20%

1888
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:25,220
more gorgeous. Yes, all of our
men here at Apple are still

1889
01:46:25,220 --> 01:46:28,700
disturbingly bow legged, but at
least they're gorgeous.

1890
01:46:30,020 --> 01:46:33,380
Unknown: That was my version of
the Apple event.

1891
01:46:34,340 --> 01:46:37,220
John C Dvorak: You need to say
gorgeous with more of a lisp,

1892
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,200
gorgeous. There you go.

1893
01:46:40,340 --> 01:46:43,060
Adam Curry: I'm working on it.
It's just gorgeous. That's

1894
01:46:46,300 --> 01:46:49,360
John C Dvorak: kind of a
combination Lisp, Sylvester, the

1895
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,460
cat. This is even funnier.

1896
01:46:52,540 --> 01:46:56,320
Adam Curry: Gorgeous, gorgeous,
just gorgeous. I was surprised

1897
01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:02,400
though, about the Cox media
story, which I finally got a

1898
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,200
clip, had to come from France
20. Well

1899
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,660
John C Dvorak: before you go to
there this, stay with the Apple

1900
01:47:06,660 --> 01:47:09,840
thing, for one thing, because
the big other story was this

1901
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:16,740
$4,000 stupid phone that Huawei
supposedly sold 4 million copies

1902
01:47:16,740 --> 01:47:21,920
of, sight unseen, that has a
three fold aspect to it that's

1903
01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:26,360
vertical. It's a it's a horrible
looking product. I didn't see.

1904
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:27,740
Have you seen this thing? I'm

1905
01:47:27,740 --> 01:47:31,520
Adam Curry: looking at it now.
What is up with it? It says 2800

1906
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:34,940
you said $4,000 it says,

1907
01:47:35,180 --> 01:47:38,300
John C Dvorak: okay, 2800 Well,
it's expensive, yeah. No, 20

1908
01:47:38,300 --> 01:47:42,640
isn't 28 Yeah, maybe it's 28
whatever it is. I'm looking at

1909
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,700
it. Who the hell you can buy a
used car for that? But okay,

1910
01:47:46,060 --> 01:47:48,160
really you

1911
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:51,820
Adam Curry: can't buy, no, I
don't think you can buy a good,

1912
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:56,020
you, a solid used car for 2800
bucks anymore. Well,

1913
01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:59,440
John C Dvorak: whatever you can
buy or not buy, that's a dumb

1914
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,820
Adam Curry: Yeah, I like those
flip phones from Samsung, but

1915
01:48:02,820 --> 01:48:03,960
this, no, the Samsung one's

1916
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:05,760
John C Dvorak: got the right
idea, because it makes it a nice

1917
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,820
little compact unit. Your pocket
has got a screen on the outside.

1918
01:48:08,820 --> 01:48:12,060
It's dynamite. JC has one, yeah,
but this, every time I'm

1919
01:48:12,060 --> 01:48:13,140
impressed with what can

1920
01:48:13,140 --> 01:48:15,900
Adam Curry: I ask you? Can I ask
you about that phone? Is about

1921
01:48:15,900 --> 01:48:17,040
it? Is it gorgeous?

1922
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:22,400
John C Dvorak: It's gorgeous?
Got it. Never quite right

1923
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:23,000
either. No,

1924
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,700
Adam Curry: you you're getting
there. It's gorgeous, it's

1925
01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:29,660
gorgeous, but every color is
gorgeous. It's just gorgeous.

1926
01:48:30,140 --> 01:48:30,800
But that

1927
01:48:30,860 --> 01:48:33,620
John C Dvorak: thing is just
hideous. I was

1928
01:48:33,620 --> 01:48:36,860
Adam Curry: reading in the Wall
Street Journal, dumb phones and

1929
01:48:36,860 --> 01:48:43,060
fax machines are the new boss
flex. Finally, finally, finally,

1930
01:48:43,060 --> 01:48:46,480
it's going to be cool again.
It's going to be cool again to

1931
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:47,440
have a dumb phone. I

1932
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,320
Unknown: don't know about the
fax machine.

1933
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,080
John C Dvorak: The fax I mean,
what's the point of a fax

1934
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,940
machine? Is idiotic, yeah.

1935
01:48:56,140 --> 01:49:00,100
Adam Curry: Anyway, Cox media,
this is the accusation. This is

1936
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:04,440
a brief summary from France 24
from the technology chick.

1937
01:49:04,440 --> 01:49:06,720
Unknown: What happened is that a
couple months ago, the American

1938
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,780
conglomerate Cox Media Group
admitted on their website that

1939
01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:12,000
they had the possibility of
listening in to private

1940
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:15,180
conversations and then helping
advertisers target people

1941
01:49:15,180 --> 01:49:17,640
specifically. But we didn't
really have proof. And then just

1942
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:22,460
a couple of days ago, what they
were able to obtain a pitch

1943
01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:24,320
deck, if you will, for
investors, in which they

1944
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,920
advocate the power of voice
data. And here's what they say

1945
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,280
in one of their sections, don't
just know what they're looking

1946
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,700
for. So they're talking about us
here, users, consumers, know

1947
01:49:34,700 --> 01:49:38,720
what they are actually talking
about. So to really convince

1948
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,240
their consumers of the power of
voice data, here's what they

1949
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,480
add. I'm going to read it to you
because I think it's quite

1950
01:49:43,480 --> 01:49:46,180
chilling. Think about it.
Smartphones have become

1951
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,180
appendages of our persons. We're
attached to them during the

1952
01:49:49,180 --> 01:49:51,820
workday. We bring them to date,
soccer games and even to the

1953
01:49:51,820 --> 01:49:55,960
bathroom. In most moments of the
day, there's a smart device

1954
01:49:55,960 --> 01:50:00,180
within a two inch radius of us.
That means a smart device. Is

1955
01:50:00,180 --> 01:50:03,240
likely within earshot when we
talk about our plans for the

1956
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,600
weekend. For instance, badly we
need our kitchen remodeled, or

1957
01:50:07,020 --> 01:50:09,840
debate which SUV model is best
for the family with our spouse

1958
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:14,340
and so much more. And they end
by saying, creepy. Sure. Great

1959
01:50:14,340 --> 01:50:18,480
for marketing, definitely. So I
mean, this is eerie. I mean,

1960
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:21,560
this is evil. When you read
this, it's one thing to actually

1961
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,560
know that it exists, but to
actually see how they're talking

1962
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:29,300
about users as mere consumers,
it's really something else. Oh

1963
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:30,200
no,

1964
01:50:31,580 --> 01:50:34,520
Adam Curry: I'm shocked. They
just look at us as dumb buyers.

1965
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:39,620
Oh no, does gambling. I never
thought that this was happening

1966
01:50:39,620 --> 01:50:42,940
to this degree and sold like
this. And, you know, in fact,

1967
01:50:42,940 --> 01:50:46,600
I'd probably push back on it,
because I know that proximity is

1968
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,960
used and, you know, but they
actually have been deploying

1969
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,440
this in apps. I might add, it's
not, probably not in the in the

1970
01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:57,760
OS itself, but there's an SDK
you can get, you drop it in, and

1971
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,180
your app can then, you know,
it'll say, Hey, give the give

1972
01:51:00,180 --> 01:51:03,660
your give this app your
microphone permission. Sure. Got

1973
01:51:03,660 --> 01:51:05,400
permission. EULA employees

1974
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,700
John C Dvorak: any app you
install it gives you. It gives

1975
01:51:08,700 --> 01:51:12,840
them permission to go for your
contact list. Your turns your

1976
01:51:13,140 --> 01:51:16,260
camera on when it wants to,
turns your microphone on when it

1977
01:51:16,260 --> 01:51:20,280
wants to, yeah, yeah. It's a
spying device that you've agreed

1978
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:21,860
to. Well,

1979
01:51:21,860 --> 01:51:24,740
Adam Curry: this is the
disturbing mini clip here that's

1980
01:51:24,740 --> 01:51:29,960
our our, our technology chick in
France, 24 who was always

1981
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:33,560
wearing sneakers. And they do a
shot of the back from her. She's

1982
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,620
got like, a fancy outfit on, but
she's always wearing sneakers.

1983
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,140
It's like, I'm going to work.
But, you know, I just wear my

1984
01:51:39,140 --> 01:51:44,680
sneakers. And maybe that's the
to be tech cool. This is

1985
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,720
something that is very
disturbing. I didn't know this

1986
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:47,560
was going on. We've all

1987
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,600
Unknown: experienced this
situation, I think, where you're

1988
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,540
talking about something next to
a phone, and then minutes later,

1989
01:51:52,540 --> 01:51:55,600
even seconds later, you scroll
on an app, or you navigate

1990
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,780
online and you find this
advertising that's specifically

1991
01:51:58,780 --> 01:52:00,880
linked to what you were just
talking about. So we all know

1992
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,660
that it actually happens, right?
And it's even become a joke

1993
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,680
online, you know, with women who
like purposely talk about

1994
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,200
certain things next to their
husband's phone to try to

1995
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:14,880
suggest maybe a gift ideas. So
that's just one way to do it. If

1996
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:19,020
you have something to tell to
your your husband, what

1997
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,320
Adam Curry: I didn't know this
was going on.

1998
01:52:22,220 --> 01:52:23,180
John C Dvorak: You've been
suckers.

1999
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,100
Adam Curry: No wonder. I'm
seeing ads for Tiffany earrings.

2000
01:52:28,100 --> 01:52:34,100
Hmm. This is interesting. Well,
this is all no good.

2001
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:35,540
John C Dvorak: This is quite
funny.

2002
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,440
Unknown: This is all no good. It
really is no no, none of it

2003
01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:42,160
John C Dvorak: good. And it's
weak marketing too. You know,

2004
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,080
they think, Well, it's great
because you really target

2005
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,240
people, because you because they
talked about something or

2006
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,780
another for five seconds, and
then let's go for it, and we can

2007
01:52:49,780 --> 01:52:54,340
sell an ad spot. Yeah, there's
better ways. There's all kinds

2008
01:52:54,340 --> 01:52:58,900
of ways of doing it, yeah,
without having to spy on an

2009
01:52:58,900 --> 01:52:59,980
individual,

2010
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,040
Adam Curry: yeah? But they're,
they're drunk on it, man. It's

2011
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:05,820
like, oh, look at all this data.
Look at all we can do. That's

2012
01:53:05,820 --> 01:53:06,660
beautiful. That

2013
01:53:06,660 --> 01:53:08,760
John C Dvorak: was what
interactive TV was all about

2014
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,500
when it first showed up. Oh,
man,

2015
01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:14,160
Adam Curry: remember IPTV?
Remember all that IPTV? It's the

2016
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:17,040
future, yeah. Oh, I talked to

2017
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,180
John C Dvorak: always will be

2018
01:53:18,180 --> 01:53:20,900
Adam Curry: Did I talk did I
tell you about our, our, our

2019
01:53:20,900 --> 01:53:24,800
guy, our Hollywood, uh,
executive, about the the cable

2020
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:30,200
channel. No. So remember he was
going to talk to, oh, right,

2021
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:34,700
right, our cable channel, yeah,
yeah. Our V for VTV, yeah. So

2022
01:53:34,700 --> 01:53:38,660
he, he talked to the guy who
got, I think HBO started, and

2023
01:53:38,660 --> 01:53:41,740
couple other he has, he has
these contacts, yeah, it's not a

2024
01:53:41,740 --> 01:53:46,180
slouch. No, no, he's he's the
real deal. He says, Well, bad

2025
01:53:46,180 --> 01:53:50,500
news. My guy felt it was not
possible in this environment

2026
01:53:50,500 --> 01:53:54,100
that it would be incredibly
unlikely to get a carriage deal.

2027
01:53:54,580 --> 01:53:57,460
He did promise to give further
thought, but I'm currently not

2028
01:53:57,460 --> 01:54:00,720
optimistic. It's the state of
because I and I went back and I

2029
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,380
said, but if we bring in Joe
Rogan, and we can bring all

2030
01:54:04,380 --> 01:54:07,020
these other big names, no, it's
not about Joe. He says it's the

2031
01:54:07,020 --> 01:54:10,560
state of the cable business and
the continually tightening

2032
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:15,360
budgets and cutting not adding
channels, it's also the demo. It

2033
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:20,100
continues to be an aging demo
that sounds like a death knell

2034
01:54:20,580 --> 01:54:23,180
John C Dvorak: when a cable is
yeah for the cable business,

2035
01:54:23,180 --> 01:54:23,360
when

2036
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,640
Adam Curry: the cable business
won't even take a channel that

2037
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,840
has Rogan and Megan Kelly and
code Bongino and anybody else,

2038
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:34,940
we could get sucker into it, the
Jimmy door. Shoot, man, we'll

2039
01:54:34,940 --> 01:54:38,900
get, we'll get to a chunk, damn

2040
01:54:40,460 --> 01:54:43,540
John C Dvorak: chunks already on
cable. Hello. He doesn't need

2041
01:54:43,540 --> 01:54:48,880
us. So, in fact, why is chunk on
cable? Yeah, well,

2042
01:54:48,940 --> 01:54:52,180
Adam Curry: aging demographic,
there you go. That's what it is.

2043
01:54:52,180 --> 01:54:55,720
And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage say in the

2044
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:59,800
morning to you, the man who put
2c into fact checks 3c say hello

2045
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,180
to. Friend on the other end, the
one, the only Mr. John,

2046
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,620
John C Dvorak: well in the
morning, Sam Craig is ships deep

2047
01:55:10,620 --> 01:55:13,080
on the graph. In the intercept,
a lot of the Dames and knights

2048
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:13,500
out there,

2049
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,660
Adam Curry: all right, cotton
gin is on the ball. Let me count

2050
01:55:15,660 --> 01:55:24,380
you troubles. Here we go. 2223
at the peak, trolls in the troll

2051
01:55:24,380 --> 01:55:28,220
room. People wanted to hear
something. Yeah, it's because of

2052
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,100
the debate. Yeah. Well, no, it's
because we're the hyperscalers.

2053
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,620
That's my new word of the day.
Hyperscalers.

2054
01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:35,420
John C Dvorak: Whatever that
means. Well, don't

2055
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:40,180
Adam Curry: hear it all day on
CNBC. But is it? I don't know. I

2056
01:55:40,180 --> 01:55:44,380
think it's the it's, why would
we be it? Well, well, we're just

2057
01:55:44,380 --> 01:55:48,100
as vapid as chat. Ai, open AI,
that's, that's what they're

2058
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:54,880
talking about, rapid at all the
hyperscalers, I think they mean

2059
01:55:54,940 --> 01:55:59,080
people who need to use a lot of
compute. If you use a lot of

2060
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,220
compute, you're a hyperscaler. I
don't know. We should get a

2061
01:56:02,220 --> 01:56:04,620
definition. I just wrote it
down.

2062
01:56:04,740 --> 01:56:06,840
John C Dvorak: It'll come up on
Dvorak Horowitz. Well,

2063
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,940
Adam Curry: you should talk to
Horowitz about the about the

2064
01:56:08,940 --> 01:56:12,420
hyperscaler. By the way, I liked
your ETF episode. That was good.

2065
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:16,620
John C Dvorak: Ah, we're gonna
do a short seller. One next.

2066
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,000
Yes, Dvorak.

2067
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,400
Adam Curry: DH, unplugged. DH,
unplug.com, come ahead live on

2068
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,740
Tuesdays comes I didn't. I
rarely just do it live, but

2069
01:56:24,740 --> 01:56:28,040
listen to it on Wednesdays. It's
a very entertaining overview of

2070
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,440
the markets, and it's an
unrehearsed conversation, which

2071
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:35,960
we join already in progress.
It's a pretty much it's a good

2072
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:37,100
show. It's a good show.

2073
01:56:37,700 --> 01:56:40,480
John C Dvorak: Those we thank
you for that plug, because we

2074
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,840
plug no agenda constantly. I
know, I know it's a deserved

2075
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,120
plug. While we're at it's called
log rolling.

2076
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,800
Adam Curry: We call it a pod
roll. Sorry, we, we

2077
01:56:50,860 --> 01:56:55,240
John C Dvorak: pod roll, log
roll. Hey, those trolls did we

2078
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,840
wishes, by the way, surprises me
to this day that Joe Rogan's not

2079
01:56:58,840 --> 01:56:59,800
more into that,

2080
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:04,380
Adam Curry: into pod rolling, or
blog rolling, pod rolling, yeah,

2081
01:57:04,380 --> 01:57:05,100
what do you mean?

2082
01:57:05,820 --> 01:57:06,600
Unknown: He doesn't like

2083
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,020
John C Dvorak: let guys plug
stuff enough

2084
01:57:10,380 --> 01:57:12,780
Adam Curry: well, he plugged me
again just the other day.

2085
01:57:13,980 --> 01:57:15,660
John C Dvorak: He mentioned your
name.

2086
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,860
Adam Curry: He said, Well, he
said, My said, my friend Adam

2087
01:57:19,860 --> 01:57:21,920
curry. You know who that is. You
know the guy who started

2088
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,420
podcasting. He always says that,

2089
01:57:23,780 --> 01:57:26,600
John C Dvorak: yeah, what good
does that do to no agenda show

2090
01:57:26,900 --> 01:57:27,260
people

2091
01:57:27,260 --> 01:57:29,300
Adam Curry: go looking Adam
curry, guy who started

2092
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:36,020
podcasting, nobody for anything.
Jamie, look that up. All right.

2093
01:57:37,820 --> 01:57:41,140
The trolls are@trollroom.io you
can join there for free. Listen

2094
01:57:41,140 --> 01:57:45,880
to the 24 hour a day stream with
tons of good content on there,

2095
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,780
no ads, all talk, all fun, all
no agenda, no agenda. Stream,

2096
01:57:49,780 --> 01:57:53,020
trollroom.io, use a modern
podcast app. That's what you

2097
01:57:53,020 --> 01:57:55,600
really want, because you know
you're gonna get deplatformed.

2098
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:59,020
You see some of your shows going
away because they're not joyous

2099
01:57:59,020 --> 01:58:03,720
enough. Oh, someone sent me
this. We've been talking about

2100
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:09,960
joy and the joy brigade. No, the
what was it? What's, what's the

2101
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:15,060
Nazi slogan that that everyone
was memeing about, yes, it's

2102
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:18,360
like strength through joy.
Strength through joy. Yes,

2103
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:20,160
witness Hogan's Heroes.

2104
01:58:20,820 --> 01:58:23,840
Unknown: That's something to go
on. Arrange a little party.

2105
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,180
That is exactly what I was
thinking. Her general

2106
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:30,800
good food and enough wine to
make him talkative and perhaps

2107
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,020
even some charming feminine
company.

2108
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:37,040
That is an excellent idea, by
the way, I have this young lady

2109
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:40,480
friend, Gretchen. I met her at
the strength through joy picnic.

2110
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:40,840
Please

2111
01:58:41,980 --> 01:58:45,940
spare me the details. Just
arrange the party.

2112
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,180
Adam Curry: How about that?
Hogan's Heroes, good reference.

2113
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:50,980
I was surprised by that

2114
01:58:52,060 --> 01:58:53,740
John C Dvorak: strength through
joy party,

2115
01:58:53,740 --> 01:58:56,800
Adam Curry: that's right, yeah,
the strength through joy party,

2116
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:01,920
Democrats. Sorry, exactly.
Sorry. Democrat party, but you

2117
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:05,580
guys are fact and you guys are
evil right now. You guys are the

2118
01:59:05,580 --> 01:59:10,440
way it goes. Yeah, that happens.
Modern podcast app will alert

2119
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:13,440
you when this show goes live and
many other shows go live, it'll

2120
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,500
give you an actual in app alert.
It doesn't turn on a microphone

2121
01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:21,560
to listen to. You know, it's
helpful. It's AI. It's AI does

2122
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,320
this, and it tells you it's time
to listen to the show.

2123
01:59:25,340 --> 01:59:29,300
John C Dvorak: I thought you
sent out an alert. Are you? Ai?

2124
01:59:29,300 --> 01:59:30,440
Adam, intelligence,

2125
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:34,940
Adam Curry: hello. Thank you.
Thank you. And of course, it's

2126
01:59:34,940 --> 01:59:38,240
the same app you can use to to
listen to all of your podcasts.

2127
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,660
Has many other features,
including the chapters, which

2128
01:59:40,660 --> 01:59:43,540
are very handy. Drab Scott does
this for us every single show.

2129
01:59:43,540 --> 01:59:47,740
We appreciate him so much. We're
value for value, which means

2130
01:59:48,460 --> 01:59:52,900
we're not really hyperscalers.
When it comes down to it, we

2131
01:59:52,900 --> 01:59:56,560
just ask people to send back
value of any type, just equal to

2132
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,080
what you receive from the show,
and that varies from person to

2133
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:02,640
person. How. Much that is from
person to person, how much time

2134
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,220
talent or treasure you want to
give back. It's all up to you,

2135
02:00:05,340 --> 02:00:07,980
and we've left that completely
open. We've done that for almost

2136
02:00:07,980 --> 02:00:11,940
17 years, coming up in October,
and we have our 17 100th

2137
02:00:11,940 --> 02:00:16,140
episode, which is just six
episodes away, which would be an

2138
02:00:16,140 --> 02:00:20,780
exciting celebration, I guess.
Are we celebrating? Yep, do you

2139
02:00:20,780 --> 02:00:24,260
have a celebration in mind? Yep.
Do you want to talk about it

2140
02:00:24,260 --> 02:00:30,800
yet? Nope, okay. Celebration is
coming. One of the ways people

2141
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:34,520
participate in helping us out
produce here is well, one of the

2142
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,580
many ways boots on the ground,
reports, people send ideas,

2143
02:00:37,580 --> 02:00:40,840
insights, their own personal
knowledge. We have more

2144
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:45,100
producers, and more skilled
producers than anyone, any any

2145
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:48,340
program of any kind in the
entire universe, which is why

2146
02:00:48,340 --> 02:00:51,220
we're called the best podcast in
the universe. And we have

2147
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:55,480
artists who create brand new
artwork for us for every single

2148
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:59,080
show. They are, in fact, many of
them, I think most of them, are

2149
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:03,480
Dutch masters. So there's quite
the lineage, and as was proven,

2150
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:09,600
once again, by a Dutch master
comic strip blogger for Episode

2151
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:14,400
1693 produced that one for you
in Mexico while I was

2152
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:20,300
vacationing, and we titled The
show Freedom Force. And even we

2153
02:01:20,300 --> 02:01:25,160
could not resist this piece of
art, which was but we could

2154
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:29,300
resist it, but we didn't. It was
hard. It was hard. It was just

2155
02:01:29,300 --> 02:01:33,320
so funny. It violated a rule. It
violated a whole bunch of two

2156
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:33,740
rules,

2157
02:01:33,740 --> 02:01:34,700
John C Dvorak: actually, three,
maybe

2158
02:01:34,700 --> 02:01:40,300
Adam Curry: AI being one, it
being a person that was two. And

2159
02:01:40,300 --> 02:01:42,100
comic strip blogger was that the
third

2160
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:44,740
John C Dvorak: one and the same
person we used in the previous

2161
02:01:44,740 --> 02:01:46,540
show? Oh, we

2162
02:01:46,540 --> 02:01:49,480
Adam Curry: violated many, many,
many, well, no, but we've, we've

2163
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:53,140
done the same person. Oh, you
mean the same person subject in

2164
02:01:53,140 --> 02:01:53,920
the artwork,

2165
02:01:54,220 --> 02:01:57,160
John C Dvorak: yeah, two shows
in a row, very it's never

2166
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:58,060
happened before. And

2167
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,980
Adam Curry: the fact that it was
just AI, which is just kind of

2168
02:02:01,980 --> 02:02:05,040
mind boggling. But we had
complained the comic strip

2169
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:08,220
blogger had not done a good job
with this prompt jockeying, of

2170
02:02:08,220 --> 02:02:12,780
putting lettering onto clothing,
etc,

2171
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,240
John C Dvorak: because he tried
a couple times he wasn't surface

2172
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:16,740
mapping properly. No

2173
02:02:16,740 --> 02:02:22,040
Adam Curry: good surface
mapping. So now he did a version

2174
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:27,140
of Tim pool, the pool man with
his beanie, only the beanie was

2175
02:02:27,500 --> 02:02:30,860
worn by Vladimir Putin, who had
his headset on and he had his

2176
02:02:30,860 --> 02:02:35,480
microphone and a put casting on
the front. We just, we laughed

2177
02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:39,260
too much. I think that's why we
chose this. Like, what else can

2178
02:02:39,260 --> 02:02:43,600
we do? It's just that funny. And
people loved it. They really

2179
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:47,200
did. And people just went like,
this is so good.

2180
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:52,660
John C Dvorak: It was the bet.
It was the it was nothing really

2181
02:02:52,660 --> 02:02:53,620
to compete with.

2182
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:55,720
Adam Curry: No, well, let me
take a look and see what we had.

2183
02:02:55,900 --> 02:02:56,260
I did,

2184
02:02:56,260 --> 02:03:00,780
John C Dvorak: like Fred the
mouse the rat. Like roundabouts

2185
02:03:00,780 --> 02:03:02,520
a lot. Yeah, I

2186
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:04,560
Adam Curry: got some feedback on
the round. Did you get any

2187
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:08,880
pushback on the roundabouts? No,
oh, lot of people weighed in.

2188
02:03:09,780 --> 02:03:13,380
Would they say? Here's an
example, Idaho. I moved to Nam

2189
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,800
Nampa, Idaho in 2015 traffic was
horrible on the back roads. I

2190
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:19,200
had to sit in traffic every day.
Over the past few years, they've

2191
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:21,860
been pulling four way stops and
replacing them with roundabouts,

2192
02:03:21,860 --> 02:03:24,680
and they're amazing. Traffic is
so much better. I hate

2193
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:27,440
government. I'm an anarchist. I
think governments are organized

2194
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,800
criminal gangs. But that said,
Idaho has been very good at

2195
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,320
maintaining our roads, and they
got rid of smog, and I don't

2196
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:35,780
think they're doing it for
climate change here. Roundabouts

2197
02:03:35,780 --> 02:03:37,160
rule, but

2198
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:39,500
John C Dvorak: we, I did get a
note from one of our guys who

2199
02:03:39,500 --> 02:03:42,460
once lived in Berkeley, and he
brought up, and I sent this to

2200
02:03:42,460 --> 02:03:46,420
you, have it too? Yeah, where he
said, We're we'd use the wrong

2201
02:03:46,420 --> 02:03:50,020
definition for roundabouts, the
ones in Berkeley. Oh, and

2202
02:03:50,500 --> 02:03:53,500
because it was supposed to save,
you know, climate change stuff.

2203
02:03:53,980 --> 02:03:57,760
And it's true what he said, in
Berkeley, there's a roundabout,

2204
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:01,620
but there's a four way stop and
a roundabout. This is Berkeley

2205
02:04:01,620 --> 02:04:04,740
for you. So you have to stop,
and then you go into the

2206
02:04:04,740 --> 02:04:07,500
roundabout to make the and it
was to prevent people from

2207
02:04:07,500 --> 02:04:11,340
getting into wrecks on left
turns, which on a four way stop

2208
02:04:11,340 --> 02:04:16,920
is, I've never seen one. Well,
I've been driving for 50 years,

2209
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:21,260
and I have never seen a wreck at
a four way stop because somebody

2210
02:04:21,260 --> 02:04:24,200
made a left turn. So, but, okay,
they put the roundabouts in

2211
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:27,140
anyway. I but it's not a true
roundabout, as far as he's

2212
02:04:27,140 --> 02:04:29,480
concerned. No, a true
roundabouts, like the ones you

2213
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:32,840
run into in England or France,
where it's like you're you come

2214
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:36,020
up on the thing you got to yield
is angled so you go on to the

2215
02:04:36,020 --> 02:04:39,680
roundabout. And if you're in
France, I should mention the

2216
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:43,300
rule is very they have a right
of way rule. So if somebody's

2217
02:04:43,300 --> 02:04:46,600
coming onto the roundabout on
the right, they have the right

2218
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:46,720
of

2219
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,120
Adam Curry: way, yeah, which is
not typical for most

2220
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:50,740
roundabouts. No,

2221
02:04:50,740 --> 02:04:52,840
John C Dvorak: it's not typical.
Typically the roundabout, if

2222
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:56,440
you're on the roundabout, you
have the right away, yeah. And

2223
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:59,920
in France, no, I always enjoy.

2224
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,840
Adam Curry: The roundabouts in
Europe. I thought they were I

2225
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:06,720
thought they were convenient. I
liked him. We have

2226
02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,900
John C Dvorak: a true roundabout
at the top of the foot of, at

2227
02:05:09,900 --> 02:05:13,320
the top of Marin Avenue, there's
a roundabout that goes off to

2228
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:18,180
1234, I think it's four or five
exits. So you can go right all

2229
02:05:18,180 --> 02:05:24,260
kinds of different directions.
And 12345, it's probably five.

2230
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:27,260
And you and it's a real
roundabout, you go, there's no

2231
02:05:27,260 --> 02:05:31,340
stopping. And I find them to be
annoying because, and I'll tell

2232
02:05:31,340 --> 02:05:34,400
you why. Maybe in Europe, joke
because people are used to

2233
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:37,700
nobody knows what they're doing.
In the United States, on a

2234
02:05:37,700 --> 02:05:43,540
roundabout, I remember stop
while they're in the roundabout.

2235
02:05:43,540 --> 02:05:44,680
Yeah, that's no good.

2236
02:05:45,820 --> 02:05:49,780
Adam Curry: That's wrong. That's
wrong. They're doing it wrong. I

2237
02:05:49,780 --> 02:05:54,520
do remember, um, moving to the
UK and the roundabouts, and it

2238
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:57,520
happened probably three times
that I would enter the

2239
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:02,760
roundabout going the wrong way.
Oh, that's terrible. And they'd

2240
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,540
always have the Brits like and
like, and they'd hold up their

2241
02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:11,160
hands, like, foreigner like,
Yeah, I'm sorry, you know, and

2242
02:06:11,220 --> 02:06:15,120
try doing a three point turn on
a roundabout. It's a bad

2243
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:18,720
situation. But otherwise, I
think roundabouts pretty good.

2244
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:22,700
I'm sure you would rather have
the potholes fixed than

2245
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:23,900
roundabouts. I'd

2246
02:06:23,900 --> 02:06:27,200
John C Dvorak: rather have
potholes fixed and more lanes on

2247
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,900
the freeway than roundabouts.

2248
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:35,660
Adam Curry: So we had Fred the
rat. See, there was, What else

2249
02:06:35,660 --> 02:06:44,860
was there? Some Mexico stuff, 47
with a sledgehammer, the camel,

2250
02:06:44,860 --> 02:06:50,140
lipstick, coffee cup. Yeah,
there really wasn't much else

2251
02:06:50,140 --> 02:06:50,800
was there?

2252
02:06:51,820 --> 02:06:53,800
John C Dvorak: Well, today,
there's quite a bit. I

2253
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,420
Adam Curry: see a lot has come
in. Yeah,

2254
02:06:56,620 --> 02:06:58,840
John C Dvorak: a lot of it is
hilarious. So it's going to be

2255
02:06:58,840 --> 02:06:59,380
tough. Okay,

2256
02:06:59,620 --> 02:07:01,300
Adam Curry: oh, we'll be
publishing late. That's the

2257
02:07:01,300 --> 02:07:04,740
that's the that's the thing that
holds us up the most, is arguing

2258
02:07:04,740 --> 02:07:07,020
about. But it's worth it,
though, because it's the talent

2259
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:10,380
of the producers, and we love
our artists. Thank you all so

2260
02:07:10,380 --> 02:07:14,040
much for competing every single
show, twice a week. No agenda,

2261
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:17,160
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2262
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:21,500
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Send us some time talent and

2263
02:07:21,500 --> 02:07:24,020
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2264
02:07:24,020 --> 02:07:26,660
thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers

2265
02:07:26,660 --> 02:07:29,780
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2266
02:07:29,780 --> 02:07:32,600
Producer. We read your note. 300
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2267
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:36,680
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2268
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:39,080
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2269
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:43,060
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2270
02:07:43,060 --> 02:07:45,700
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2271
02:07:45,700 --> 02:07:48,940
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2272
02:07:48,940 --> 02:07:51,640
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2273
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,880
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2274
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:57,760
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2275
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2276
02:08:01,020 --> 02:08:04,920
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2277
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:09,360
There are many people who send
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2278
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,480
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2279
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:15,660
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2280
02:08:15,660 --> 02:08:19,500
read well, we thank everybody at
$50 Nova, we start now with our

2281
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:24,800
top executive producer, which
was a mind blower from the Duke

2282
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,700
of Central Florida, Winter Park
Florida. And he sends us a

2283
02:08:28,700 --> 02:08:32,540
rubbilizer donation. He says,
from the Duke of Florida. I

2284
02:08:32,540 --> 02:08:36,020
think this gets me an upgrade to
Archduke of Central Florida,

2285
02:08:36,020 --> 02:08:43,120
$3,344.33 he says, I threw in an
$11 kicker to catch up the

2286
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:48,220
sironymous of Dog Patch and
slower lobovia donations as he

2287
02:08:48,220 --> 02:08:52,300
brings great insights to us all.
And he says, Thanks for sticking

2288
02:08:52,300 --> 02:08:58,540
around for another four years.
This was very kind and highly

2289
02:08:58,540 --> 02:09:02,100
appreciated. And of course, you
get the rubbleizer donation

2290
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:02,520
jingle,

2291
02:09:03,780 --> 02:09:05,520
Unknown: India hang out. Mike

2292
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:08,340
standby, 3333

2293
02:09:10,140 --> 02:09:13,080
33 the rubbilizer out.

2294
02:09:14,220 --> 02:09:16,800
Adam Curry: Awesome, awesome
brother. Thank you. Yes, of

2295
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:21,560
course you will be the Archduke
of Central Florida. Title change

2296
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:21,980
coming up.

2297
02:09:23,660 --> 02:09:27,800
John C Dvorak: Douglas Ellis is
no slouch from New York City,

2298
02:09:27,980 --> 02:09:32,420
and he comes in with 1789 which
I think is a $1,700 donation in

2299
02:09:32,420 --> 02:09:34,760
charge of a lot of Wow. Send

2300
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:35,660
Adam Curry: checks people,

2301
02:09:36,500 --> 02:09:42,640
John C Dvorak: 38 cents. And he
which will put him in. We have

2302
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:45,580
guys. We're gonna we're putting
people into the 1700 club in

2303
02:09:45,580 --> 02:09:48,400
advance. So this is the second
one. I'll put him in the last

2304
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:51,280
show too. I'll put him in. This
is the longest note. It is long,

2305
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,100
and I had, but I had some recent
good karma, so I'm passing it

2306
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:58,960
along and sending $1,700 to
celebrate 17 years and 1700

2307
02:09:59,320 --> 02:10:03,600
shows. Find where. Gentlemen, my
donation, along with Yeah, said

2308
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:09,060
for 717 100, and that's how much
extra VIG you get when you don't

2309
02:10:09,060 --> 02:10:14,520
send a check. My donation, along
with the will be my donation,

2310
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:18,780
along with the $1,000 I gave it,
$50 a month a few years ago,

2311
02:10:18,780 --> 02:10:21,980
made me a knight, or maybe more
I'd like to be he hasn't been

2312
02:10:21,980 --> 02:10:26,000
knighted yet. It's actually
Baronet at this point. I'd like

2313
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:29,840
to be knighted, sir, maybe,
yeah, actually, maybe Baron. I'd

2314
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,780
like to be knighted Sir Douglas
of the Bahamas at the round

2315
02:10:32,780 --> 02:10:36,080
table. I'd love to see some
prayer, Pirate Republic, beer.

2316
02:10:36,500 --> 02:10:40,240
No, I have a request. First is
something you can read to the

2317
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,180
listeners to activate your no
agenda intelligence network.

2318
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:47,140
Adam, you and I have discussed
this a little over email. In the

2319
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:50,080
olden days, I used to listen to
Adam's daily source code. That

2320
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:55,480
is olden days. I think I may
have gotten to that. I think I

2321
02:10:55,480 --> 02:11:00,540
may have gotten to that. My a
guest appearance. I can't read

2322
02:11:00,540 --> 02:11:05,580
what he said on on Adams, on the
Gilmore gang. I think of this as

2323
02:11:05,580 --> 02:11:09,000
the original Joe Rogan
appearance. That was a wonky

2324
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:10,500
gang, but a fun listen.

2325
02:11:11,820 --> 02:11:13,620
Adam Curry: I don't know what.
Well, you remember the Gilmore

2326
02:11:13,620 --> 02:11:17,220
gang, don't you? Steve Gilmore?
Yeah, and those guys

2327
02:11:18,660 --> 02:11:21,680
John C Dvorak: during one
episode, maybe 10, four, 2006

2328
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:28,280
but no later than 322, 2007 the
must. Poked and prodded. Jason

2329
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:35,060
Calacanis was the guest. J, Cal,
J, Cal. He ended the show, yes,

2330
02:11:35,420 --> 02:11:39,200
yeah. He ended the show with a
fantastically funny riff where

2331
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:42,520
he pretended to be Adam. Yeah,
he does voices. He does, uh,

2332
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:50,320
stoned in the audio a six studio
parked on the streets of

2333
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:56,740
Amsterdam. It was really good
and not mean spirited. No, it

2334
02:11:56,740 --> 02:12:00,480
was mean spirited. Jason's
voices are all mean spirited.

2335
02:12:00,900 --> 02:12:05,340
Don't kid yourself. The Golden
clip is not easy to find, I

2336
02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:09,060
guess not. I know there were
interpersonal issues among some

2337
02:12:09,060 --> 02:12:12,240
of you early podcasts, but that
may have made some of this

2338
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:16,800
material vanish. Not sure what
he's talking about. Well, I

2339
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:18,480
guess what he says around,

2340
02:12:18,780 --> 02:12:22,520
Adam Curry: let me, let me just
say something. Jason Calacanis

2341
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:25,340
and I have known each other for
a long time. You've known him

2342
02:12:25,340 --> 02:12:28,580
for a long time. We poke fun at
each other. He's great. He just

2343
02:12:28,580 --> 02:12:31,400
moved to Texas. I'm gonna go
shooting on his property pretty

2344
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:32,180
soon. Oh, are

2345
02:12:32,180 --> 02:12:36,140
John C Dvorak: you now? Of
course you can have this gun.

2346
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:39,740
Would you like to shoot? I also
bought a Mac can.

2347
02:12:40,940 --> 02:12:43,780
Adam Curry: He also listens to
the show, by the way, yeah,

2348
02:12:43,780 --> 02:12:44,200
okay,

2349
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:45,760
John C Dvorak: sure he does. He
does.

2350
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:49,240
Adam Curry: He sends me notes
all the time, any, any,

2351
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:53,740
especially the logical
impregnations that you do.

2352
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:55,240
Unknown: Sure he does. He

2353
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:59,500
Adam Curry: does. He does. He's
a listener, all right. Jason,

2354
02:12:59,500 --> 02:13:01,980
sending a donation just to prove
that you're listening. You

2355
02:13:01,980 --> 02:13:02,700
watch. There you

2356
02:13:02,700 --> 02:13:04,380
Unknown: go. Now

2357
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:09,420
John C Dvorak: will be the day
now. Anyway, he goes on and

2358
02:13:09,420 --> 02:13:14,340
says, This golden clip is not
easy to find. I know there were

2359
02:13:14,340 --> 02:13:17,520
interpersonal issues among some
of you early podcasters that may

2360
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:21,680
have made some of this material
vanish. No, no. But if someone

2361
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:24,320
smarter than me could dig it up,
I would be great listen for the

2362
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,240
no agenda. Audience, thanks,
gents, yeah,

2363
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:28,400
Adam Curry: I'd love to hear
that too. Those are good days. I

2364
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:32,300
would too, because it was true.
I was smoking weed in my Audi,

2365
02:13:32,660 --> 02:13:36,020
which I used at a studio, and
doing podcasts. Good times.

2366
02:13:36,620 --> 02:13:40,900
Thank you. Doug, uh, sir. Mr.
Bob dabulina checks in from

2367
02:13:40,900 --> 02:13:44,500
Franklin, Tennessee. $500 sir,
Mr. Bob dabulina here. Only

2368
02:13:44,500 --> 02:13:48,880
seven donors. Bob dobb is here
for you. Your show is too good.

2369
02:13:49,060 --> 02:13:51,820
We've got a support to keep you
all going. Please put some

2370
02:13:51,820 --> 02:13:56,380
voodoo on Kamala tax plan.
Hashtag. Save cap gains. Take me

2371
02:13:56,380 --> 02:14:00,120
out with a dablina hook if you
got it. First of all, don't be

2372
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:04,920
confused about this. I guess
what he's talking about is the

2373
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:10,560
Kamala saying I'm going to tax
unrealized gains. That's not

2374
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:11,400
going to happen.

2375
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:14,940
John C Dvorak: That'll No, it'll
break everyone in Congress.

2376
02:14:14,940 --> 02:14:18,540
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. That's
not going to happen. All right,

2377
02:14:18,540 --> 02:14:21,860
I'll take it out with Mr. Bob
Alina, Mr. Bob dabalina, because

2378
02:14:21,860 --> 02:14:23,840
I couldn't find a jingle. Thank
you very much.

2379
02:14:25,700 --> 02:14:30,800
John C Dvorak: Bowman McMahan in
San Antonio, you're right down

2380
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:36,320
the street. $500 in loving
memory of James Patrick McMahon,

2381
02:14:39,200 --> 02:14:42,760
Adam Curry: moving on to
minister, Kat from Austin,

2382
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:44,740
Texas, also right down the road.
What

2383
02:14:44,740 --> 02:14:45,820
John C Dvorak: happened to Sir
Luca?

2384
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:49,000
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, moving on
to Sir Luca from savosa, oh,

2385
02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:54,520
from another one of those Swiss
guys. Yeah, the Swiss are

2386
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:57,520
listening, yes? Well, Sir Luca
does. I think he also organizes

2387
02:14:57,520 --> 02:15:02,340
meetups. Happy birthday to me.
I. Greetings, Celinda Liu and f

2388
02:15:02,340 --> 02:15:04,200
the EU sir Luca, while

2389
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:06,120
Unknown: I'm driving off
laughing, this is what I'll say.

2390
02:15:17,640 --> 02:15:18,840
Adam Curry: All right, you're on
the list,

2391
02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:23,240
John C Dvorak: and now we go to
miss Minister cat in Austin,

2392
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:27,260
three, three, 3.33. You guys are
my sanity in this rapidly

2393
02:15:27,260 --> 02:15:31,280
declining world. Put it in the
Red Book that hydrogen fuel

2394
02:15:31,280 --> 02:15:35,120
cells are coming. They've
already come, and Taylor Swift

2395
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:39,860
will have a late term abortion.
That's a good prediction.

2396
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:43,480
Unknown: That's pretty funny.

2397
02:15:43,660 --> 02:15:47,440
John C Dvorak: Uh, yours, uh,
yours in ridicule and hopeful

2398
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:54,040
peach peach peach peach. Peace a
minister cat of Austin, Texas.

2399
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:54,520
All right.

2400
02:15:54,580 --> 02:15:58,600
Adam Curry: Minister cat, thank
you very much. We move on to

2401
02:15:58,660 --> 02:16:05,520
Duchess Kim, three, three, 3.33.
And Duchess Kim has a birthday,

2402
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:10,680
turns 41 on the 22nd and sent in
a note. This is Duchess Kim,

2403
02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:14,580
keeper of the nutty fluffers.
Once jingle. Screw your freedom,

2404
02:16:14,580 --> 02:16:17,700
little girl, yeah. And a double
goat. Karma. Well, we can do let

2405
02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:20,900
me just make sure I got two
goats. We have two goats. Thank

2406
02:16:20,900 --> 02:16:24,560
you. Round them up, calling all
of gibbonation. I'm in need of

2407
02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:28,580
any prayers, karma, rain dances
and shoot even voodoo dolls at

2408
02:16:28,580 --> 02:16:32,660
this point, if it will help, I'm
going in for my third and

2409
02:16:32,660 --> 02:16:36,440
hopefully final retinal
detachment surgery on the same

2410
02:16:36,500 --> 02:16:40,360
eye. Now this is, this is Dame
Kim, who has been through this,

2411
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:43,420
right? We've been through this
with her, Yes,

2412
02:16:43,420 --> 02:16:44,980
John C Dvorak: man. And planning
to do,

2413
02:16:45,220 --> 02:16:45,940
Adam Curry: oh man,

2414
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:48,400
John C Dvorak: this is not
mistaken. You have to keep your

2415
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:51,520
head upside down. You got to
keep it down looking to the

2416
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:54,340
ground so they put you in a
special bed. You have to stick

2417
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:59,080
to this has got to be the most
this got to be one of the most

2418
02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:00,660
uncomfortable things you can do

2419
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:03,780
Adam Curry: no pressure, boys.
But with being blind in my good

2420
02:17:03,780 --> 02:17:08,460
eye due to a macular hole, I
will be counting on you guys to

2421
02:17:08,460 --> 02:17:10,920
make me laugh, and I would be
looking forward to your shows

2422
02:17:10,920 --> 02:17:14,100
more so than usual. Over the
next few weeks, we guarantee you

2423
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:15,060
we're going to make you laugh.

2424
02:17:16,139 --> 02:17:18,479
John C Dvorak: Making you laugh
when you're after this operation

2425
02:17:18,479 --> 02:17:20,279
is necessarily a good thing.

2426
02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:24,560
Adam Curry: Well, it helped. The
last time she said, Well,

2427
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:26,900
John C Dvorak: she didn't help
that much. She had to go in for

2428
02:17:26,900 --> 02:17:28,340
a second round. Also,

2429
02:17:28,340 --> 02:17:30,560
Adam Curry: since I will not be
able to see well enough, can I

2430
02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:34,220
please get a biscuit on my 41st
trip around the sun on September

2431
02:17:34,220 --> 02:17:34,520
22

2432
02:17:34,940 --> 02:17:37,280
Unknown: they always give me a
biscuit on my birthday. I

2433
02:17:37,279 --> 02:17:39,559
Adam Curry: have a feeling Jay
will add you to the list for

2434
02:17:39,559 --> 02:17:42,219
then. She's very good at that.
Happy birthday, Adam, thank you.

2435
02:17:42,219 --> 02:17:44,679
Don't worry, we're not getting
older. We're just getting finer

2436
02:17:44,679 --> 02:17:48,039
and more expensive, like wine,
man, I really wish I had my

2437
02:17:48,039 --> 02:17:51,459
rubbleizer tote bag or challenge
coin for my birthday. You two

2438
02:17:51,459 --> 02:17:54,039
are the bee's knees and I would
be wearing a tinfoil hat on my

2439
02:17:54,039 --> 02:17:56,859
head and living under my bed if
it was not for you to keep up

2440
02:17:56,859 --> 02:18:02,099
the great work and four more
years as Dutchess Kim keeper of

2441
02:18:02,099 --> 02:18:04,559
the nutty fluffers. Screw your
freedom.

2442
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:10,740
Unknown: You've got karma a

2443
02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:16,020
Adam Curry: double as requested
karma. There we go.

2444
02:18:18,660 --> 02:18:22,580
John C Dvorak: Got you covered
onward with and get well soon.

2445
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:28,880
Yes. Kim Nathan Rottier in West
Locke, Alberta, Canada, three,

2446
02:18:28,880 --> 02:18:33,440
three, 3.33. And he has a small,
very small, you can tell by the

2447
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:38,240
pitch there, little bitty note
dear Adam and John, after seeing

2448
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:42,220
the sad puppy, the couple does
last show so many shows in a

2449
02:18:42,220 --> 02:18:48,880
row, I decided to move my annual
donation up a month. And my 33rd

2450
02:18:49,300 --> 02:18:53,080
birthday is coming up, so I'd
like a fresh biscuit, please.

2451
02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:56,500
They always give me a biscuit on
my birthday. Fresh biscuit. And

2452
02:18:56,500 --> 02:19:00,720
as a side note, Adam, yes, your
pronunciation of my last name is

2453
02:19:00,720 --> 02:19:06,540
excellent, as it is French, but
unfortunately, during the 1700s

2454
02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:12,240
it migrated to Holland, then to
Canada in the 50s. So it's

2455
02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:13,440
changed to

2456
02:19:15,540 --> 02:19:17,220
Unknown: to wrote rotary

2457
02:19:17,819 --> 02:19:21,799
John C Dvorak: roti roti rotar.
I don't like it. We're just

2458
02:19:21,799 --> 02:19:25,159
gonna stick with rotier. We're
gonna stick with roti a side. I

2459
02:19:25,159 --> 02:19:25,579
still like

2460
02:19:25,580 --> 02:19:28,220
Adam Curry: rotate. That's what
it is. Man, your rotate us.

2461
02:19:28,700 --> 02:19:29,180
Thank you.

2462
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:35,660
John C Dvorak: Is rototi Ro roto
here, Rotater, I don't know.

2463
02:19:35,660 --> 02:19:39,740
Rotator rotor, yeah. Okay. On to
our first

2464
02:19:39,740 --> 02:19:43,240
Adam Curry: Associate Executive
Producer, $250 mark from Graham

2465
02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:48,580
Washington also sent us a note,
and I have the note here. John

2466
02:19:48,580 --> 02:19:54,880
Adam, thank you for the years of
entertainment. Just to say I

2467
02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:58,960
can't just to say no to an exit
strategy, please give me

2468
02:19:58,960 --> 02:20:02,340
relationship karma. Because
although I will be always,

2469
02:20:03,300 --> 02:20:08,100
although I will always love my
ex, Oh, I must find a way to

2470
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:11,760
move on. Oh, sorry about that,
and you will move on. You will

2471
02:20:11,820 --> 02:20:15,480
it'll be okay. Also, please give
her a jobs, karma. Lastly,

2472
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:19,320
please give a f cancer and
prayer for sweet little four

2473
02:20:19,320 --> 02:20:22,700
year old Oakley. She's a
fighter, but we can use all the

2474
02:20:22,700 --> 02:20:26,120
help she can get. Adam, I love
that you found your way to

2475
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:29,480
Christ, and hope to follow in
your footsteps. Well, follow in

2476
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:34,580
his footsteps, absolutely. So we
will give you relationship, F,

2477
02:20:34,580 --> 02:20:39,380
cancer, karma and and you'll be
fine. I really think so. I

2478
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:45,760
Unknown: You've got karma.

2479
02:20:48,220 --> 02:20:52,060
John C Dvorak: The Harper team
is back with in Temecula. Oh 250

2480
02:20:52,420 --> 02:20:57,100
bucks, Temecula, Temecula, the
Harper team would like to

2481
02:20:57,100 --> 02:21:04,200
shorten last week's message to
the following. Uh, okay, if

2482
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:06,960
you're ready to get at the hell
out of California and move to

2483
02:21:06,960 --> 02:21:11,340
the great State of Tennessee, we
can help with that. However, if

2484
02:21:11,340 --> 02:21:14,220
you're committed to going down
with this ship in Southern

2485
02:21:14,220 --> 02:21:18,540
California because you refuse to
leave the perfect weather, we

2486
02:21:18,540 --> 02:21:23,240
totally get it. We can help with
that too. Call, text us at

2487
02:21:23,360 --> 02:21:29,960
760-450-4165, have a great week.

2488
02:21:30,140 --> 02:21:33,860
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you.
Harper team, sir. Eternus quivi,

2489
02:21:34,100 --> 02:21:37,700
I think it is Laredo, Texas. He
wants to wish me happy birthday

2490
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:41,500
with $250 for the for the show.
Thank you. Appreciate that.

2491
02:21:42,520 --> 02:21:46,720
John C Dvorak: Dame Beth in
Tucson, Arizona, 222, the 805,

2492
02:21:47,260 --> 02:21:52,540
rooftop meetup was the spookiest
ever. Probably a lot of spooks

2493
02:21:52,540 --> 02:21:56,800
in Arizona, we determined that
everyone was a spook or spook

2494
02:21:56,800 --> 02:22:01,560
adjacent, except me. I'm just
the chief of staff to an elected

2495
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:05,880
official. Oh, wait. Jingle.
Fletcher, four more years. Thank

2496
02:22:05,880 --> 02:22:10,740
you for your courage. Dame Beth,
the Baroness of Baja, Arizona.

2497
02:22:10,740 --> 02:22:12,000
Four more years.

2498
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,920
Adam Curry: Daniel perutzo,
Courtenay, British Columbia,

2499
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:19,980
222, short row of ducks. Hello.
John Adams to switch Roo, just

2500
02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:23,120
want to say, Wow, what a great
show you guys put together. I

2501
02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:26,420
see a lot of crap out there. You
guys really rise above it all.

2502
02:22:26,660 --> 02:22:29,540
My smoking hot wife hit me in
the mouth of no agenda about six

2503
02:22:29,540 --> 02:22:31,760
months ago. We both look forward
to listening to your show

2504
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:35,000
together while working on our
awesome little farm on beautiful

2505
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:39,320
Vancouver Island in Courtenay,
British Columbia. Oh how nice.

2506
02:22:39,980 --> 02:22:43,600
Yeah. And you know, people who
know agenda together stay

2507
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:46,540
together. So I would like to
dedicate this Associate

2508
02:22:46,540 --> 02:22:50,260
Executive producership to my
wife, Bailey Davies. It's our

2509
02:22:50,320 --> 02:22:53,320
15th anniversary today,
September 12, and I can't thank

2510
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:56,140
her enough for being by my side
through all these crazy times.

2511
02:22:56,140 --> 02:22:59,500
And I look forward to the next
15 years and beyond. Could you

2512
02:22:59,500 --> 02:23:00,460
give her a deduction

2513
02:23:02,140 --> 02:23:03,660
Unknown: you've been D douche

2514
02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:08,520
Adam Curry: and some baby making
karma. Yeah, we're good for that

2515
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:13,080
too. Also toss in a yak karma,
unless you have elk karma only

2516
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:17,640
Yak, but I think it doubles. I
think Yak and Yak double as elk.

2517
02:23:18,420 --> 02:23:21,560
She is off to Cranbrook tomorrow
on her first hunting trip with

2518
02:23:21,560 --> 02:23:25,880
her new gun. She's such a
badass. Happy anniversary. Baby.

2519
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:28,160
Cheers from D you bet

2520
02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:34,760
Unknown: you've got Parma.
You've

2521
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:44,200
Adam Curry: got Parma. Remember?
Gotta name your baby after Adam

2522
02:23:44,200 --> 02:23:45,160
and John

2523
02:23:46,180 --> 02:23:48,880
John C Dvorak: Eli, the coffee
guy in bensonville, Illinois,

2524
02:23:49,420 --> 02:23:55,360
209 12. While researching Walter
water filtration to improve the

2525
02:23:55,360 --> 02:23:59,080
quality of my coffee brewing, I
ended up going down a rabbit

2526
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:04,140
hole regarding Atrazine in the
water supply. Turns out Alex

2527
02:24:04,140 --> 02:24:07,980
Jones is right. Well, we played,
actually, he says seed, seed man

2528
02:24:07,980 --> 02:24:11,880
jingle. You'd like to hear that,
but we played a clip years ago

2529
02:24:11,880 --> 02:24:16,800
that was on Democracy Now, from
a professor at Cal who had done

2530
02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:21,320
all the research on this. Yes, I
remember that. And yes, Alex

2531
02:24:21,320 --> 02:24:27,140
Jones is right. There's the
frogs gay. Remember, folks

2532
02:24:27,140 --> 02:24:30,680
always use filtered water for
drinking or brewing coffee and

2533
02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:34,340
and I do. I use the Clearly
Filtered water, yeah, which

2534
02:24:34,340 --> 02:24:37,580
takes out fluorine too. And
visit gigawatt Coffee

2535
02:24:37,580 --> 02:24:42,760
roasters.com use code ITM for
20% off your order, stay

2536
02:24:42,760 --> 02:24:46,720
caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy,
and they do make a good, a good

2537
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:50,800
blend of they make good, they do
a good job of roasting beans.

2538
02:24:50,800 --> 02:24:52,240
Adam Curry: Did you say
fluorine?

2539
02:24:53,260 --> 02:24:54,580
John C Dvorak: Said fluoride.
No, I

2540
02:24:54,580 --> 02:24:56,260
Adam Curry: thought you said
fluorine, which was kind of

2541
02:24:56,260 --> 02:24:56,800
weird. Well, I

2542
02:24:56,800 --> 02:24:58,360
John C Dvorak: thought I said
fluoride. I said

2543
02:24:58,360 --> 02:25:02,160
Unknown: weird. I don't like a
button. Chemicals. Weird, yes,

2544
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:04,860
be quiet. I don't like them
putting chemicals in the water

2545
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:07,140
that turn the friggin frogs gay.

2546
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:11,820
Adam Curry: Beachview farm, Oak
Harbor, Washington, two. Oh,

2547
02:25:11,820 --> 02:25:15,900
2.02, nice, nice, nice. Number
there. Thank you both for what

2548
02:25:15,900 --> 02:25:18,540
you do. Adam, keep reminding
people to eat real food grown by

2549
02:25:18,540 --> 02:25:21,500
proper farmers. Find your
regenerative agriculture

2550
02:25:21,500 --> 02:25:24,560
operation near you? Any
producers in the Pacific

2551
02:25:24,560 --> 02:25:27,140
Northwest that want the best
Wagyu beef in the universe,

2552
02:25:27,140 --> 02:25:31,220
please support beach view farm
on Whidbey Island. Visit

2553
02:25:31,220 --> 02:25:36,200
beachviewfarm.com. For all your
excellent meat and food search

2554
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:37,040
needs.

2555
02:25:37,400 --> 02:25:38,840
John C Dvorak: Well, how about
the new one? This

2556
02:25:38,840 --> 02:25:42,100
Adam Curry: is new. Yes, I have
meat needs,

2557
02:25:42,460 --> 02:25:45,460
John C Dvorak: so this a wagyu
American wagyu. Is that what

2558
02:25:45,460 --> 02:25:46,240
we're dealing with here?

2559
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:49,420
Adam Curry: I think so. Sounds
like a good deal, and it's up

2560
02:25:49,420 --> 02:25:52,240
near you or near Mimi. I wonder

2561
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:54,820
John C Dvorak: if this is the
group that sells the wagyu to

2562
02:25:54,820 --> 02:25:57,100
Costco. Oh, that's

2563
02:25:57,100 --> 02:25:57,820
Unknown: a good question.

2564
02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:00,540
John C Dvorak: Somebody told me
that they, they Ryan, know the

2565
02:26:00,540 --> 02:26:04,320
guys who sell their wagyu to
Costco, and I said, woohoo, and

2566
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:09,480
I never heard back. Must be fake
news. It's fake news. Somebody

2567
02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:10,440
sells it to him.

2568
02:26:10,620 --> 02:26:13,260
Unknown: Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a

2569
02:26:13,260 --> 02:26:17,100
competitive atmosphere, but we
laugh a lot. Now, everyone hug

2570
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:19,980
and share a secret. You've got
karma

2571
02:26:22,140 --> 02:26:25,940
John C Dvorak: each view farm in
Oak Harbor, yeah, or actually,

2572
02:26:25,940 --> 02:26:28,580
Whidbey Island, interesting, I
didn't know there was a

2573
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:33,500
interesting Linda Lou padkin in
Lakewood, Colorado, as she comes

2574
02:26:33,500 --> 02:26:39,140
in with 200 bucks as usual, and
asks for jobs karma and says, I

2575
02:26:39,140 --> 02:26:44,800
think you have a lure and for a
resume that's alluring, Oh, I

2576
02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:48,400
see what she did. Yeah, she's
switching up her copy or ad

2577
02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:52,480
copy. Yeah, visit imagemakers.
Inc.com, for all your executive

2578
02:26:52,480 --> 02:26:57,160
and resume executive resume and
job search needs, that's image

2579
02:26:57,160 --> 02:27:01,620
makers. Inc, with a k.com with
Linda Lou Duchess of jobs and

2580
02:27:01,620 --> 02:27:04,020
writer of resumes, jobs,

2581
02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:07,980
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's

2582
02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:12,240
Adam Curry: vote for jobs karma.
Wonderful. Linda Lou, thank you

2583
02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:15,360
for being here every single
episode. And we wrap up our

2584
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:19,800
Associate Executive producers
with Anonymous with $200 no

2585
02:27:19,800 --> 02:27:22,520
note. So that means a double up
karma for you, anonymous,

2586
02:27:22,580 --> 02:27:23,360
Unknown: you've got

2587
02:27:25,640 --> 02:27:28,640
Adam Curry: karma. And thank you
to all of these executive and

2588
02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:33,920
Associate Executive producers of
episode 1694 we are well on our

2589
02:27:33,920 --> 02:27:37,100
way to 1700 thank you for
producing this episode of the

2590
02:27:37,100 --> 02:27:37,700
show. Our

2591
02:27:37,700 --> 02:27:42,100
Unknown: formula is this, we go
out. We hit people in the mouth,

2592
02:27:42,100 --> 02:27:42,220
Yeah,

2593
02:27:56,740 --> 02:27:59,440
Adam Curry: shut up, shut up,
slave, shut up, shut up, shut

2594
02:27:59,440 --> 02:27:59,800
up, shut

2595
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:02,340
Unknown: up, shut up, all right,

2596
02:28:03,660 --> 02:28:06,240
Adam Curry: I have some things,
but maybe you have some things

2597
02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:07,680
that you want

2598
02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:10,920
John C Dvorak: to get out get
this out of the way. This is the

2599
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:13,140
Adam Curry: it always sounds
like it's no good when you say I

2600
02:28:13,140 --> 02:28:14,580
want to get no I know it's got
to

2601
02:28:14,580 --> 02:28:19,440
John C Dvorak: be out of the
way, but good, that's what it's

2602
02:28:19,440 --> 02:28:22,340
no good. I got no good clips
here that are going to get out

2603
02:28:22,340 --> 02:28:26,000
of the way. But first, let me I
do have a humorous clip.

2604
02:28:26,060 --> 02:28:32,360
Unknown: Okay, dead in cubicle.
Oh, okay. This is this. We know

2605
02:28:32,360 --> 02:28:32,900
this story.

2606
02:28:32,900 --> 02:28:37,940
A Tempe Wells Fargo employee
died at her desk, and 12 news is

2607
02:28:37,940 --> 02:28:41,500
now confirming that it may have
taken as many as four days for

2608
02:28:41,500 --> 02:28:44,500
anyone in the office to notice.
Good evening, and thanks so much

2609
02:28:44,500 --> 02:28:46,360
for joining us for 12 News at
10. I'm

2610
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:47,920
kadiva devine. I'm Mark Curtis.

2611
02:28:47,980 --> 02:28:51,940
It's a story we first reported
yesterday. Tonight, Tempe Police

2612
02:28:51,940 --> 02:28:55,660
are confirming the timeline of
when the woman clocked in to

2613
02:28:55,660 --> 02:28:58,540
when her colleagues found the
body. 12 news journalist

2614
02:28:58,540 --> 02:29:01,680
Gabriela vaquerra is in the
studio with New details tonight.

2615
02:29:01,980 --> 02:29:03,720
Gabby, four days. I

2616
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:07,500
mean, this poor woman went four
days undiscovered. It's hard to

2617
02:29:07,500 --> 02:29:08,280
believe, and that's

2618
02:29:08,280 --> 02:29:11,460
a question many employees are
asking themselves. Tonight, I

2619
02:29:11,460 --> 02:29:15,660
spoke with an employee who said
that she shared her perspective

2620
02:29:15,660 --> 02:29:18,120
on the workplace environment,
and they say it's a big

2621
02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:21,680
building, but most people don't
work there on a daily basis, a

2622
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:24,620
Wells Fargo employee went to
work the morning of Friday,

2623
02:29:24,620 --> 02:29:29,240
August 16, and never went home.
Tempe Police tell 12 news 60

2624
02:29:29,240 --> 02:29:32,120
year old Denise Prudhomme
scanned into work at seven

2625
02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:35,120
o'clock in the morning. Four
days later, police responded to

2626
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:37,820
the office building near
Washington Street and priest

2627
02:29:37,820 --> 02:29:41,200
drive for reports of a subject
down. Prudhomme was declared

2628
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:44,560
dead. The Tempe Police Criminal
Investigation Bureau is

2629
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:48,340
investigating, but do not
suspect foul play. A Wells Fargo

2630
02:29:48,340 --> 02:29:52,060
employee exclusively spoke with
12 news but asked not to be

2631
02:29:52,060 --> 02:29:55,540
recorded or identified out of
fear for their job. They say a

2632
02:29:55,540 --> 02:29:59,020
colleague found Prudhomme dead
at her desk in a cubicle while

2633
02:29:59,020 --> 02:30:01,980
walking around the bill. On
Tuesday, August, 20.

2634
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:07,620
Adam Curry: If I can just make a
programming note, this is a

2635
02:30:07,620 --> 02:30:08,940
really old story.

2636
02:30:09,420 --> 02:30:10,740
John C Dvorak: No, it's not
that. Yeah,

2637
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:12,000
Adam Curry: it's weeks old.

2638
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:14,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's been
sitting around. You won't let me

2639
02:30:14,460 --> 02:30:15,660
play these things. What do

2640
02:30:15,660 --> 02:30:18,180
Adam Curry: you mean? I have
never forbidden you from In

2641
02:30:18,180 --> 02:30:21,320
fact, I had the clip myself for
a couple shows, but it's like,

2642
02:30:21,320 --> 02:30:22,820
it's like, I just feel, I

2643
02:30:22,820 --> 02:30:25,220
John C Dvorak: just think, it's
a sad, sad story that needs to

2644
02:30:25,220 --> 02:30:28,580
be repeated. It's this poor
woman. She goes to work for

2645
02:30:28,580 --> 02:30:31,700
days. Nobody calls in and say,
Hey, where's Dad Becky or

2646
02:30:31,700 --> 02:30:35,780
anything? I mean, this is the
typical, I don't know Wells

2647
02:30:35,780 --> 02:30:36,620
Fargo is, you

2648
02:30:36,620 --> 02:30:40,840
Adam Curry: know, I have, I have
this recurring nightmare where

2649
02:30:41,560 --> 02:30:46,660
it's, uh, it's a Thursday, and
I'm waiting for you to come on

2650
02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:49,780
John C Dvorak: because I'm dead
in my cubicle for days

2651
02:30:50,140 --> 02:30:53,620
Adam Curry: since Sunday, no one
has checked on you. Yeah, well,

2652
02:30:53,620 --> 02:30:56,380
John C Dvorak: that doesn't
happen, believe me, they're

2653
02:30:56,380 --> 02:30:58,060
always checking on you.

2654
02:30:58,060 --> 02:31:01,080
Adam Curry: You sound rather
irked about it. Yeah,

2655
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:04,080
John C Dvorak: let's go to this.
This is something we can both

2656
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:09,240
talk about. FBI thwarts a one
man riot. Breaking

2657
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:12,480
Unknown: news, the Justice
Department says a planned terror

2658
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:16,500
attack in New York City has been
thwarted. The suspect allegedly

2659
02:31:16,500 --> 02:31:20,660
wanted to target Jewish people
on October 7, one year after the

2660
02:31:20,660 --> 02:31:24,680
attack in Israel, the suspect
was quoted by the FBI as saying,

2661
02:31:24,680 --> 02:31:28,040
If we succeed with our plan,
this would be the largest attack

2662
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:33,080
on US soil since 911 CBS Nancy
Cordes is at the White House

2663
02:31:33,140 --> 02:31:35,900
with new reporting. Good
evening, Nancy, it is chilling

2664
02:31:35,900 --> 02:31:41,080
to read what this really is.
Nora, and it took the FBI

2665
02:31:41,080 --> 02:31:44,860
working with Canadian law
enforcement to identify and

2666
02:31:44,860 --> 02:31:48,040
apprehend the suspect, who is
now accused of plotting to carry

2667
02:31:48,040 --> 02:31:52,060
out a mass shooting at a Jewish
Center in Brooklyn, which

2668
02:31:52,060 --> 02:31:56,020
authorities say he wanted to do
just over a month from today.

2669
02:31:56,200 --> 02:32:00,180
The suspect's name is Mohamed
shahzab Khan. He is a 20 year

2670
02:32:00,180 --> 02:32:04,980
old Pakistani citizen who lived
in Canada. He allegedly began

2671
02:32:04,980 --> 02:32:09,720
posting on social media in
support of ISIS last November,

2672
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:12,900
and eventually, without his
knowledge, began communicating

2673
02:32:12,900 --> 02:32:17,280
with two undercover law
enforcement officers. That's

2674
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:20,420
what led them to him. According
to Attorney General Merrick

2675
02:32:20,420 --> 02:32:23,360
Garland, the defendant, is
alleged to have planned a

2676
02:32:23,360 --> 02:32:27,440
terrorist attack in New York
City around October 7 of this

2677
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:31,580
year, with the stated goal of
slaughtering in the name of ISIS

2678
02:32:31,820 --> 02:32:36,980
as many as possible. October 7,
of course, will mark one year

2679
02:32:36,980 --> 02:32:40,960
since the brutal surprise attack
by Hamas on Israeli citizens

2680
02:32:41,140 --> 02:32:45,880
that left nearly 1200 people
dead. Now, Khan was apprehended

2681
02:32:45,880 --> 02:32:49,120
just a couple of days ago in
Quebec. It's believed he was

2682
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:53,200
headed towards the US border. A
resident in the area said she

2683
02:32:53,200 --> 02:32:57,760
saw police officers outside her
home put a man in handcuffs on

2684
02:32:57,760 --> 02:32:58,600
her front lawn. He

2685
02:32:59,500 --> 02:33:02,280
John C Dvorak: was headed south
toward the US border. He was, he

2686
02:33:02,280 --> 02:33:06,120
was in Quebec, going to the
Hortons that was south of the

2687
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:11,100
city. He's heading toward the US
border. This is the biggest six

2688
02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:13,380
week bogus story of the of the

2689
02:33:13,380 --> 02:33:16,080
Adam Curry: month, but it does
have the international aspect,

2690
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:19,320
which is an extra payment, as we
learned. But if it's

2691
02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:24,320
international, then you get more
money for thwarting this, this

2692
02:33:24,320 --> 02:33:29,300
attack. They threw in some isis
that was good in, you know, big

2693
02:33:29,300 --> 02:33:32,840
ISIS, that's terrorism you get,
I mean, this is a money maker.

2694
02:33:33,140 --> 02:33:36,440
This was a money making
operation, the six week cycle,

2695
02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:42,220
the Ching now, there was a
separate terrorism story which

2696
02:33:42,220 --> 02:33:47,080
came out this week, which has to
do with telegram. And as you

2697
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:51,400
know, I think Pavel is still
under house arrest, the CEO of

2698
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:56,020
the telegram app, and he has
already said, Oh, all right,

2699
02:33:56,020 --> 02:33:59,380
we'll do more moderation. We'll
do some moderation so that app

2700
02:33:59,380 --> 02:34:03,600
is now compromised. But wait, we
have a little more. This

2701
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:06,180
Unknown: apartment says it's
uncovered a plot to incite a

2702
02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:09,240
race war, arresting suspects
allegedly part of a white

2703
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:12,480
supremacist group plotting
attacks. 34 year old Dallas

2704
02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:15,900
humor and 37 year old Matthew
Allison are facing more than a

2705
02:34:15,900 --> 02:34:19,140
dozen federal charges. According
to the indictment, the group,

2706
02:34:19,140 --> 02:34:22,760
which refers to itself as terror
grant, allegedly directed its

2707
02:34:22,760 --> 02:34:25,880
members to commit hate crimes
against black people as well as

2708
02:34:25,880 --> 02:34:29,300
Jewish people, immigrants and
members of the LGBTQ plus

2709
02:34:29,300 --> 02:34:32,360
community. The indictment also
claims that the group plotted to

2710
02:34:32,360 --> 02:34:36,800
quote kill high value targets,
including a U S senator, and

2711
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:39,920
incited followers to carry out
terror attacks around the world.

2712
02:34:40,700 --> 02:34:40,780
The

2713
02:34:40,780 --> 02:34:43,600
John C Dvorak: threat of
domestic terrorism is on the

2714
02:34:43,600 --> 02:34:47,140
rise inside the United States,
and acts of violence carried out

2715
02:34:47,140 --> 02:34:51,400
by white supremacists is the
single most lethal type of

2716
02:34:51,400 --> 02:34:54,640
domestic violence extremism that
we see in the country

2717
02:34:54,760 --> 02:34:57,760
Adam Curry: right now. I'm
sorry, what domestic white

2718
02:34:57,760 --> 02:35:01,200
supremacist terrorist attacks
have we seen? Seen recently in

2719
02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:05,100
the country that being the most
severe form of terrorism we see

2720
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:09,660
right now. Can you recall any?
No, well, they did. The

2721
02:35:09,960 --> 02:35:10,500
indictment

2722
02:35:10,500 --> 02:35:12,660
Unknown: claims that Huber
posted pictures at the 2016

2723
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:16,080
Pulse nightclub shooting in
Florida as an example of what

2724
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:19,980
members could carry out. The two
suspects are in contact with

2725
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:21,680
white supremacist? No,

2726
02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:24,080
Adam Curry: that was done by a
jilted gay guy,

2727
02:35:25,100 --> 02:35:27,860
John C Dvorak: if I recall, or
something like along those

2728
02:35:27,860 --> 02:35:30,740
lines. But it wasn't a white
supremacist? No. But if you

2729
02:35:30,740 --> 02:35:33,440
listen to the parse it again,
you have to back it up and parse

2730
02:35:33,440 --> 02:35:36,620
it because she never said it was
done by a white supremacist to

2731
02:35:36,620 --> 02:35:39,680
say, play it. There's a little
word as she uses in there, which

2732
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:43,480
is very, very tricky at the end,
at the end, not to be what she's

2733
02:35:43,480 --> 02:35:46,360
just said. It just back it up.
10 seconds before I interrupted,

2734
02:35:46,360 --> 02:35:46,480
the

2735
02:35:46,540 --> 02:35:48,940
Unknown: indictment claims that
Huber posted pictures of the

2736
02:35:48,940 --> 02:35:52,660
2016 Pulse nightclub shooting in
Florida as an example of what

2737
02:35:52,660 --> 02:35:55,120
members could carry out, could
carry

2738
02:35:55,480 --> 02:35:58,360
John C Dvorak: out, an example
of what they could carry out,

2739
02:35:58,360 --> 02:36:00,360
not what they did carry out. No,
of

2740
02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:01,080
Adam Curry: course not. They're

2741
02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:03,900
John C Dvorak: just too schlub
examples. You're right. This is

2742
02:36:03,900 --> 02:36:04,860
bold crap.

2743
02:36:04,920 --> 02:36:07,500
Adam Curry: I'd be very careful
on Mastodon if I were some

2744
02:36:07,500 --> 02:36:12,660
people, because if they're going
after this on Telegram, they're

2745
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:15,780
gonna go after all kinds of
stuff, all kinds of salute.

2746
02:36:15,780 --> 02:36:19,080
Sure. They will. Hate crimes,
pre crime. Oh, you said

2747
02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:25,280
something bad. You used words,
it's no good. What are we coming

2748
02:36:25,280 --> 02:36:30,740
to? Since LGBT was brought up, I
have a trans Maoist segment for

2749
02:36:30,740 --> 02:36:31,040
us.

2750
02:36:38,240 --> 02:36:42,880
Had that for a while. I just dug
it up. It's cute. My favorite

2751
02:36:42,880 --> 02:36:45,340
hate Listen, although this
wasn't my favorite hate Listen,

2752
02:36:45,340 --> 02:36:47,980
per se, it was one of the
subjects of my favorite hate

2753
02:36:47,980 --> 02:36:52,480
listen. In this case, Kara
Swisher, your protege, was being

2754
02:36:52,480 --> 02:36:55,660
interviewed on the Jillian
Michaels podcast.

2755
02:36:56,260 --> 02:36:59,680
John C Dvorak: Jillian Michaels,
the lesbian bodybuilder,

2756
02:36:59,740 --> 02:37:03,000
Adam Curry: that's the one who
also has a an African American

2757
02:37:03,000 --> 02:37:07,440
adopted child. And you know, it
was a perfect it was a match

2758
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:08,220
made in heaven.

2759
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:11,100
Unknown: These two on the
podcast,

2760
02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:15,960
John C Dvorak: but sounds like
an opportunity to flirt. Well,

2761
02:37:16,020 --> 02:37:16,980
the opposite

2762
02:37:16,980 --> 02:37:21,020
Adam Curry: happened, and I am
liking what Jillian Michaels did

2763
02:37:21,020 --> 02:37:25,520
to Kara Swisher. So we started
off. They're talking about, of

2764
02:37:25,520 --> 02:37:28,100
course, with Kara, everything's
political. And when it's

2765
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:31,640
political, it's about those
horrible Republicans. They're

2766
02:37:31,640 --> 02:37:35,180
horrible, and Trump, and Trump
is like, horrible. They're no

2767
02:37:35,180 --> 02:37:39,320
good. They hate gay people, they
hate trans children. And they're

2768
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:44,920
talking about the laws being put
in place by states to not allow

2769
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:50,680
underage children to undergo
transgender surgery and

2770
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:55,120
therapies medical procedures,
which I think you and I agree,

2771
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:59,320
is kind of a good idea not to
allow that, because it is pretty

2772
02:37:59,320 --> 02:38:02,940
much the definition of child
abuse when you

2773
02:38:04,980 --> 02:38:07,500
John C Dvorak: put kids, or
worse, yes, when

2774
02:38:07,500 --> 02:38:10,140
Adam Curry: you put kids on
puberty blockers and all kinds

2775
02:38:10,140 --> 02:38:13,500
of stuff, that is, it's not
good. It's not healthy, and

2776
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:17,880
it's, quite frankly, it's
demonic. So we start off with

2777
02:38:17,940 --> 02:38:22,820
Cara explaining what this Not
really. Republicans don't care

2778
02:38:22,820 --> 02:38:24,440
about trans kids. What

2779
02:38:24,440 --> 02:38:26,840
Unknown: happens is, whether you
realize it or not, you're

2780
02:38:26,840 --> 02:38:31,160
becoming a weapon by they're
trying. They didn't, they

2781
02:38:31,160 --> 02:38:33,800
weren't able to turn the
bathroom issue. Remember a

2782
02:38:33,800 --> 02:38:36,320
couple of years ago, they were
all worried about transgender

2783
02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:40,240
people going in and bothered
exactly it didn't work. I've

2784
02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:44,620
always completely dismissed that
argument. It didn't work, and so

2785
02:38:44,620 --> 02:38:47,500
they moved on to sports, which
is a much more complex and

2786
02:38:47,500 --> 02:38:51,040
difficult issue, especially if
you're a parent of a female

2787
02:38:51,040 --> 02:38:54,580
athlete, it's a big deal. These
girls have worked so hard to get

2788
02:38:54,580 --> 02:38:57,760
to where they are, they
shouldn't compete unfairly with

2789
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:00,780
other people. So Correct. You
have a problem with that

2790
02:39:00,780 --> 02:39:03,780
argument. I don't I because I
don't. First of all, I think

2791
02:39:03,780 --> 02:39:06,480
it's much more complex, and we
should all have a discussion

2792
02:39:06,480 --> 02:39:09,360
about it. Agree, I agree.
Because the problem I have is

2793
02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:11,880
it's being used by the right
who's pretending they're

2794
02:39:11,880 --> 02:39:14,880
concerned with girl athletes,
when what they're really trying

2795
02:39:14,880 --> 02:39:18,180
to do is go after trans people
in general. And honestly, the

2796
02:39:18,180 --> 02:39:20,600
reason they're going after trans
people is because they're still

2797
02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:23,840
angry about what gay people have
gotten, which is marriage,

2798
02:39:23,900 --> 02:39:28,340
adoption, full rights as
citizens. This you're all over

2799
02:39:28,340 --> 02:39:32,360
here. They're aiming there's the
most cynical people on earth.

2800
02:39:32,540 --> 02:39:35,540
They have never gotten over the
loss of gay marriage. This is

2801
02:39:35,540 --> 02:39:39,560
what they're actually going for.
And you're over here arguing

2802
02:39:39,560 --> 02:39:43,300
this. To me, the whole issues
that's happened is this is a

2803
02:39:43,300 --> 02:39:46,540
group of people that want the
government to they accuse the

2804
02:39:46,540 --> 02:39:50,440
left of doing things they're
doing. You're right. But I think

2805
02:39:50,440 --> 02:39:54,820
vice versa, perhaps, but, but
here's it should be a decision.

2806
02:39:54,820 --> 02:39:57,700
That should be a decision
between parents, their doctors,

2807
02:39:57,940 --> 02:40:01,860
and parents. What. The children,
well, mostly parents and the

2808
02:40:01,860 --> 02:40:05,340
doctors don't understand it all
of this, oh, now they're stupid.

2809
02:40:05,340 --> 02:40:07,380
Like, so let's let the
government decide.

2810
02:40:08,040 --> 02:40:10,920
Adam Curry: So I has this got my
attention? Like, Oh, someone's

2811
02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:14,580
schooling. Kara Swisher, who
then turns this around and says,

2812
02:40:14,880 --> 02:40:18,120
it's really because they hate
gay people. This really because

2813
02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:21,380
they're still so mad that gay
people can get married in

2814
02:40:21,380 --> 02:40:26,300
America, so which is, by the
way, a state's issue. It's not

2815
02:40:26,300 --> 02:40:29,660
an American issue, it's federal
issue. States can determine

2816
02:40:29,660 --> 02:40:33,620
that, and they're mad about
that. So they don't really care

2817
02:40:33,620 --> 02:40:37,340
about kids. They just hate gay
people. And then Jillian

2818
02:40:37,340 --> 02:40:38,600
Michaels comes in, kind of

2819
02:40:38,600 --> 02:40:41,380
John C Dvorak: a weird
projection, oh, because Thank

2820
02:40:41,380 --> 02:40:41,800
you.

2821
02:40:42,280 --> 02:40:42,880
Unknown: Even. She

2822
02:40:42,880 --> 02:40:45,160
Adam Curry: even said it.
They're projecting. She even

2823
02:40:45,160 --> 02:40:48,520
said it. They do what they
accuse others of. Now this Kara

2824
02:40:48,520 --> 02:40:52,960
Swisher is a horrible person.
She really is, I just have to

2825
02:40:52,960 --> 02:40:58,660
say it. She's a stuck up,
arrogant, horrible Democrat,

2826
02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:05,100
which puts her in the demon
camp. And then Jillian Michaels,

2827
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:10,020
very intelligently, comes out
with information she has read

2828
02:41:10,020 --> 02:41:14,100
about W path and the cast
review, which you first

2829
02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:17,160
introduced here to the show. And
we know what the you know. Just

2830
02:41:17,160 --> 02:41:21,080
give us a brief rundown on the
cast review, a

2831
02:41:21,080 --> 02:41:24,080
John C Dvorak: brief the cast
review came out in England, and

2832
02:41:24,080 --> 02:41:27,080
it went through all the
documents they could find, lots

2833
02:41:27,080 --> 02:41:29,840
of them, and a lot of studies,
and said the idea of

2834
02:41:29,840 --> 02:41:33,440
transitioning kids is a bad idea
and let them grow up, and then

2835
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:36,080
they can transition when they're
older. So

2836
02:41:36,080 --> 02:41:38,780
Adam Curry: Jillian Michaels
brings this to the table, and

2837
02:41:38,780 --> 02:41:40,960
listen what Kara Swisher does

2838
02:41:40,960 --> 02:41:43,840
Unknown: have you reviewed the W
puff files? Which one's the one

2839
02:41:43,840 --> 02:41:47,500
from England? No, no, that's the
cast review. Okay, so the W puff

2840
02:41:47,500 --> 02:41:50,920
files was Michael schellenberger
and me, I don't want to talk

2841
02:41:50,920 --> 02:41:51,940
about you. Don't like Michael.

2842
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:53,860
Adam Curry: Okay, oh, I don't
want to talk about Michael

2843
02:41:53,860 --> 02:41:57,460
schellenberger. I can't talk I
don't care. I just don't want to

2844
02:41:57,460 --> 02:42:01,500
talk about him. This is he's a
journalist, a journalist. It

2845
02:42:01,500 --> 02:42:02,220
just is Michael.

2846
02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:04,080
Unknown: I just can't talk about
him because, you know,

2847
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:05,160
he did the Twitter files,

2848
02:42:06,900 --> 02:42:09,480
nevertheless actually
inaccurate. So okay, but allow

2849
02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:09,660
it's

2850
02:42:09,660 --> 02:42:11,940
Adam Curry: inaccurate, though
it's inaccurate. She doesn't

2851
02:42:11,940 --> 02:42:14,760
even know what the cast review
is, but it's actually

2852
02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:15,660
inaccurate, though actually

2853
02:42:15,660 --> 02:42:18,120
Unknown: inaccurate. So okay,
but a lot, but he did a data

2854
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:23,900
dump, okay, so take his opinion
out of it and look at the data.

2855
02:42:24,500 --> 02:42:24,800
Oh,

2856
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:27,740
Adam Curry: thank you. Jillian
Michaels is doing some amazing

2857
02:42:27,740 --> 02:42:32,480
work here. Take your opinion out
of it and look at the data. And

2858
02:42:32,480 --> 02:42:32,600
the

2859
02:42:32,600 --> 02:42:36,200
Unknown: parents within this
organization, right? So they've

2860
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:40,300
leaked emails, text messages,
video, right? They're

2861
02:42:40,300 --> 02:42:44,020
acknowledging. The experts
within the WPATH are

2862
02:42:44,020 --> 02:42:46,600
acknowledging that the parents
don't understand, and the kids

2863
02:42:46,600 --> 02:42:50,620
don't understand, the kids don't
understand. They are sterilized.

2864
02:42:51,400 --> 02:42:54,040
They don't I think this is take
I do not. I think the people

2865
02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:55,780
know what they're doing.
There's, you know, it's really

2866
02:42:55,780 --> 02:42:58,660
interesting, because I was just
looking at Elon Musk is not

2867
02:42:58,660 --> 02:43:01,020
dumb, and he just said, I didn't
understand. Ridiculous. He's

2868
02:43:01,020 --> 02:43:04,800
lying. Jillian, he's lying.
Okay, wow,

2869
02:43:05,100 --> 02:43:06,960
is this good, right? It
continues. He's

2870
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:10,680
lying, actually lying to you.
Look at the Castro. This is the

2871
02:43:10,680 --> 02:43:13,860
most powerful, richest man on
earth, and he's dumb. Give me a

2872
02:43:13,860 --> 02:43:14,460
break.

2873
02:43:14,700 --> 02:43:18,900
Adam Curry: In other words, Elon
Musk doesn't, didn't understand

2874
02:43:18,900 --> 02:43:23,240
that this transition would be
puberty blockers, which change

2875
02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:26,780
all kinds of things in your
child's body and brain, but he's

2876
02:43:26,780 --> 02:43:29,780
just dumb. Oh, really, Elon knew
what he was doing, and it's

2877
02:43:29,780 --> 02:43:30,560
okay. So you think

2878
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:32,600
Unknown: he was foreign and then
changed his mind. I don't, I

2879
02:43:32,600 --> 02:43:35,420
don't. I think he's a terrible
parent who wasn't available to

2880
02:43:35,420 --> 02:43:38,360
his kids, and his daughter is
speaking out because he's trying

2881
02:43:38,360 --> 02:43:41,740
to claim her near he's making up
ridiculous gay tropes about her

2882
02:43:42,520 --> 02:43:46,360
saying, Oh, I knew he was gay
because he said, fabulous lot.

2883
02:43:46,900 --> 02:43:50,920
Yes, daughter, who is now
daughter, is saying this is not

2884
02:43:50,920 --> 02:43:55,000
true. He's using it for his
whatever demented reason. This

2885
02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:58,180
man is doing it, but everything
he says is untrue. Family

2886
02:43:58,180 --> 02:44:01,260
members have said it's untrue.
So that's fair, and for him to

2887
02:44:01,260 --> 02:44:04,500
pretend he didn't know what was
going on is here's a person who

2888
02:44:04,500 --> 02:44:07,020
tells you how smart he is every
day of the week and twice on

2889
02:44:07,020 --> 02:44:08,400
Sunday, and here he's

2890
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:14,100
Adam Curry: dumb. So then
Jillian Michaels comes with the

2891
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:19,020
receipts, explains what the cast
review actually contains from

2892
02:44:19,020 --> 02:44:24,380
the data they have collected,
and schools Kara Swisher to a

2893
02:44:24,380 --> 02:44:26,960
very satisfying degree, within

2894
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:30,200
Unknown: the cast review and
within the WPATH files, the

2895
02:44:30,200 --> 02:44:33,200
parents have been told, if you
don't support your child in this

2896
02:44:33,200 --> 02:44:36,500
they'll become suicidal. That is
the narrative. So the parents

2897
02:44:36,500 --> 02:44:36,740
are like,

2898
02:44:36,860 --> 02:44:37,520
Oh my God. Like,

2899
02:44:37,580 --> 02:44:40,840
I don't want my child to become
suicidal. I want them to think I

2900
02:44:40,840 --> 02:44:45,640
don't love them. And then the
transitioning begins, the

2901
02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:50,920
medicalization piece begins, and
that's the part that I

2902
02:44:50,920 --> 02:44:55,420
personally find, based on the
cast review and the WPATH files

2903
02:44:56,440 --> 02:45:00,600
alarming, and it has some kids
other kids face. Very much

2904
02:45:00,600 --> 02:45:03,720
should move down these roads. Do
you understand that when you

2905
02:45:03,720 --> 02:45:06,720
block people? Yes, I do. You're
impacting the development of

2906
02:45:06,720 --> 02:45:10,860
their brain. I do understand. So
how is that okay? They should be

2907
02:45:10,860 --> 02:45:13,740
older. You and I are

2908
02:45:15,900 --> 02:45:17,040
here. That's correct. You

2909
02:45:17,100 --> 02:45:20,360
know why they're weaponizing
we're here together, yes, but

2910
02:45:20,360 --> 02:45:23,120
they're weaponizing it for
something else, because they

2911
02:45:23,120 --> 02:45:27,200
Adam Curry: hate gay people. Go
away. Kara Swisher, I can't

2912
02:45:27,200 --> 02:45:30,740
believe that Vox media allows
her to still take a check from

2913
02:45:30,740 --> 02:45:35,900
them. It's she's really a
horrible person, and then, and

2914
02:45:35,900 --> 02:45:38,240
then just say, well, they should
be older. That was the whole

2915
02:45:38,240 --> 02:45:39,860
point of the conversation. I

2916
02:45:44,680 --> 02:45:46,840
John C Dvorak: Well, that was a
depressing series. I

2917
02:45:46,960 --> 02:45:49,660
Adam Curry: didn't think it was
depressing at all. I thought it

2918
02:45:49,960 --> 02:45:52,180
John C Dvorak: was because you
pointed out there's a person

2919
02:45:52,180 --> 02:45:55,540
that should have been a canceled
cancel.

2920
02:45:55,780 --> 02:45:57,580
Adam Curry: I'm not for
canceling anybody.

2921
02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:00,520
John C Dvorak: But yet, there
she is.

2922
02:46:02,440 --> 02:46:04,440
Adam Curry: I was just, it was
just crazy.

2923
02:46:04,860 --> 02:46:06,780
John C Dvorak: Oh, by the way, I
did want to play this at the

2924
02:46:06,780 --> 02:46:09,780
beginning of the show, to play
it now, because this is was 911

2925
02:46:10,920 --> 02:46:14,700
Adam Curry: Yes, today's 911 No,
today's 912 but, yeah, but

2926
02:46:14,700 --> 02:46:17,040
John C Dvorak: the show was 911
but we were celebrating it.

2927
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:21,440
Yeah, oh yeah. We said we
celebrate. And I had a clip that

2928
02:46:21,440 --> 02:46:27,080
I wanted to remind people that
on the on 910 the day before 911

2929
02:46:27,560 --> 02:46:30,740
we have to mention that this is
what Rumsfeld said. This shows

2930
02:46:30,740 --> 02:46:35,600
up every year. We should play
it. We don't play it much. But

2931
02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:39,260
this is Rumsfeld before, the day
before, and he was Secretary of

2932
02:46:39,260 --> 02:46:41,740
Defense, I believe he was
Secretary of Defense, the day

2933
02:46:41,740 --> 02:46:45,340
before all hell broke loose,
this is what he said. We are,

2934
02:46:45,340 --> 02:46:51,040
Unknown: as they say, tangled in
our anchor chain. Our financial

2935
02:46:51,040 --> 02:46:54,160
systems are decades old.
According to some estimates, we

2936
02:46:54,160 --> 02:47:00,300
cannot track $2.3 trillion in
transactions. We cannot share

2937
02:47:00,300 --> 02:47:03,540
information from floor to floor
in this building because it's

2938
02:47:03,720 --> 02:47:07,080
stored on dozens of different
technological systems that are

2939
02:47:07,080 --> 02:47:12,540
inaccessible or incompatible. We
maintain 20 to 25% more base

2940
02:47:12,540 --> 02:47:17,520
infrastructure than we need to
support our forces at an annual

2941
02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:21,800
waste to taxpayers of some three
to $4 billion yes,

2942
02:47:21,860 --> 02:47:23,900
Adam Curry: and you know, since
they couldn't communicate from

2943
02:47:23,900 --> 02:47:28,520
floor to floor, and they had
that information in building

2944
02:47:28,520 --> 02:47:33,560
seven, they decided to move the
floors closer together so so

2945
02:47:33,560 --> 02:47:35,120
that they could communicate
better.

2946
02:47:40,400 --> 02:47:44,740
Yeah, $2.7 trillion in 2001
well, we

2947
02:47:44,740 --> 02:47:47,140
John C Dvorak: still it's worse
now, no, yeah,

2948
02:47:47,200 --> 02:47:51,640
Adam Curry: it's a trillion just
the Ukraine. Since you brought

2949
02:47:51,640 --> 02:47:55,960
that up, here's a reminder of
Kevin mcpadden, first responder

2950
02:47:56,020 --> 02:47:57,340
in New York on 911

2951
02:47:57,700 --> 02:48:00,220
Unknown: the Red Cross rep was
like, he goes over when he

2952
02:48:00,220 --> 02:48:02,940
anything, he says, Well, you got
to stay behind this line because

2953
02:48:03,300 --> 02:48:06,000
they're thinking about bringing
the building down. They didn't

2954
02:48:06,000 --> 02:48:08,880
say what buildings. They just
said bringing a building down.

2955
02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:13,560
So we're like, okay, you know,
we'll take that word before you

2956
02:48:13,560 --> 02:48:19,020
know, we'll stay behind the
line. And he went over and he

2957
02:48:19,020 --> 02:48:21,560
talked to one of the through all
the commotion. He goes over and

2958
02:48:21,560 --> 02:48:25,160
he asks one of the Red Cross or
one of the firefighters, what

2959
02:48:25,160 --> 02:48:28,340
was going on. I guess I don't
know if he got an answer or not.

2960
02:48:28,700 --> 02:48:32,360
He came back over with his hand
over the radio and what sounded

2961
02:48:32,360 --> 02:48:36,680
like a countdown. And at the
last few seconds, he took his

2962
02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:40,160
hand off, and you heard 321, and
he was just saying, just run for

2963
02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:42,640
your life. Just run for your
life. And then it was like

2964
02:48:42,640 --> 02:48:49,180
another two three seconds. You
heard explosions like, boom.

2965
02:48:49,780 --> 02:48:52,780
It's like a distinct sound. It's
not like when the compression

2966
02:48:52,780 --> 02:48:56,560
like, boom, boom, boom, boom,
like floors that were dropping

2967
02:48:56,560 --> 02:49:00,120
and collapsing. This was BA,
boom. And like, you felt a

2968
02:49:00,300 --> 02:49:02,820
rumble in the ground like,
almost like you wanted to grab

2969
02:49:02,820 --> 02:49:03,480
onto something.

2970
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:06,360
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Then, do you remember Trump?

2971
02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:10,860
John C Dvorak: By the way, that
was specifically WTC seven.

2972
02:49:10,860 --> 02:49:16,080
Adam Curry: Yes, that was WTC
seven. But Trump was recorded on

2973
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:18,780
911 talking about towers one and
two.

2974
02:49:18,780 --> 02:49:21,200
Unknown: The World Trade Center
was always known as a very, very

2975
02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:22,040
strong building. Don't

2976
02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:23,900
forget, that took a big bomb in
the basement.

2977
02:49:23,900 --> 02:49:26,240
Now the basement is the most
vulnerable. Can you even hear

2978
02:49:26,240 --> 02:49:26,540
that? Is

2979
02:49:26,540 --> 02:49:27,800
Adam Curry: it inaudible? Yeah,

2980
02:49:27,800 --> 02:49:28,940
John C Dvorak: no, it's no I can
hear.

2981
02:49:30,980 --> 02:49:35,000
Unknown: And It withstood that.
And I got to see that area about

2982
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:37,280
three or four days after it took
place, because one of my

2983
02:49:37,280 --> 02:49:40,720
structural engineers actually
took me for a tour, because he

2984
02:49:40,720 --> 02:49:43,120
did the building. And I said, I
can't believe it, the building

2985
02:49:43,120 --> 02:49:46,960
was standing solid, and half of
the columns were blown out. I

2986
02:49:46,960 --> 02:49:50,020
mean, so this was an
unbelievably powerful building,

2987
02:49:50,500 --> 02:49:52,840
if you know anything about
structure, it was one of the

2988
02:49:52,840 --> 02:49:55,240
first buildings that was built
from the outside the steel. The

2989
02:49:55,240 --> 02:49:58,360
reason the World Trade Center
had such narrow windows is that

2990
02:49:58,360 --> 02:50:00,960
in between all the windows you
had this. Steel on the outside,

2991
02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:03,300
see in the steel on the outside
of the building. That's why,

2992
02:50:03,300 --> 02:50:07,080
when I first looked and you had
big, heavy I beams, when I first

2993
02:50:07,080 --> 02:50:10,260
looked at it, I couldn't believe
it, because there was a hole in

2994
02:50:10,260 --> 02:50:13,800
the steel. And this is steel
that was, you remember the width

2995
02:50:13,800 --> 02:50:16,260
of the windows of the World
Trade Center folks, I think you

2996
02:50:16,440 --> 02:50:19,740
know, if you were ever up there,
they were quite narrow. And in

2997
02:50:19,740 --> 02:50:22,940
between was this heavy steel. I
said, How could a plane, even a

2998
02:50:22,940 --> 02:50:28,160
plane, even a 767, or 747 or
whatever it might have been? How

2999
02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:30,920
could it possibly go through
this deal? I happen to think

3000
02:50:30,920 --> 02:50:33,920
that they had not only a plane,
but they had bombs that exploded

3001
02:50:33,920 --> 02:50:37,220
almost simultaneously, because I
just can't imagine anything

3002
02:50:37,220 --> 02:50:40,040
being able to go through that
wall. Most buildings are built

3003
02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:42,520
with the Steelers on the inside,
around the elevator shaft. This

3004
02:50:42,940 --> 02:50:45,880
one was built from the outside,
which is the strongest structure

3005
02:50:45,880 --> 02:50:49,840
you can have, and it was almost
just like a like a can of soup.

3006
02:50:50,800 --> 02:50:51,040
And

3007
02:50:51,040 --> 02:50:54,580
Adam Curry: for those Zoomers
who are dead, clip I forgot

3008
02:50:54,580 --> 02:50:58,180
about, for the Zoomers out there
who are investigating this,

3009
02:50:58,180 --> 02:51:01,740
maybe for the first time, the
whole thing was a giant scam.

3010
02:51:01,740 --> 02:51:08,280
There's a lot of different
things to look at this. It's the

3011
02:51:08,280 --> 02:51:12,000
main thing is the Patriot Act,
which was signed into law, I

3012
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:16,080
think, two weeks after 911 which
is what you're living with

3013
02:51:16,080 --> 02:51:20,300
today, is still in play. Yes,
the entire security state that

3014
02:51:20,300 --> 02:51:24,740
is spying on you is because of
this event. And we have to give

3015
02:51:24,740 --> 02:51:30,620
props to two people on july 25
of 2001 so well before September

3016
02:51:30,620 --> 02:51:34,760
11, Alex Jones went on the way
on the air from Austin, Texas,

3017
02:51:34,760 --> 02:51:36,320
and had this report, tyranny

3018
02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:38,780
Unknown: is enveloping the
globe, and the United States is

3019
02:51:38,780 --> 02:51:41,920
a shining jewel the globalists
want to bring down and they will

3020
02:51:41,920 --> 02:51:44,380
use terrorism as the pretext to
get it done. We know the

3021
02:51:44,380 --> 02:51:47,560
government's planning terrorism.
We know Oklahoma City and World

3022
02:51:47,560 --> 02:51:50,200
Trade Center was terrorism. We
know the joint chiefs of staff

3023
02:51:50,200 --> 02:51:53,020
wanted to blow up airliners. If
you do it, we're going to blame

3024
02:51:53,020 --> 02:51:55,960
you, because we know who's up to
it. Or if you let some terrorist

3025
02:51:55,960 --> 02:51:58,480
group do it, like the World
Trade Center, we know who to

3026
02:51:58,480 --> 02:52:01,500
blame. If any Terrorism comes,
it's from this government, and

3027
02:52:01,500 --> 02:52:04,020
if there was an outside threat,
like a bin Laden, who was a

3028
02:52:04,020 --> 02:52:07,140
known CIA asset in the 80s
running the Mujahideen war, and

3029
02:52:07,140 --> 02:52:10,080
whose family builds all the
military bases over in Saudi

3030
02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:13,020
Arabia right now, and sits on
the board of Iridium satellite

3031
02:52:14,400 --> 02:52:16,980
and phony system.

3032
02:52:17,460 --> 02:52:21,200
Adam Curry: But we also have to
give props in this case to Bill

3033
02:52:21,200 --> 02:52:26,480
Cooper, who on his radio show a
month earlier, June, 28 who was

3034
02:52:27,860 --> 02:52:31,160
very inconveniently shot to
death by an undercover cop in

3035
02:52:31,160 --> 02:52:35,720
November. He went on his radio
show and reported about CNN

3036
02:52:36,020 --> 02:52:41,380
finding Bin Laden well before
911 but kind of just in time.

3037
02:52:41,380 --> 02:52:41,560
Can

3038
02:52:41,560 --> 02:52:44,860
Unknown: you believe what you
have been seeing on CNN today,

3039
02:52:44,860 --> 02:52:51,640
ladies and gentlemen, can you
believe it supposedly a CNN

3040
02:52:51,700 --> 02:52:58,900
reporter found Osama bin Laden,
took a television camera crew

3041
02:52:58,900 --> 02:53:04,680
with him, went into Osama bin
Laden hideout, interviewed him

3042
02:53:04,920 --> 02:53:10,260
and his top leadership, his top
lieutenants and colonels and

3043
02:53:10,440 --> 02:53:16,020
generals in their hideout. This
is a CNN reporter with a camera

3044
02:53:16,020 --> 02:53:21,320
crew, and he came out and told
everybody, within three weeks,

3045
02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:24,080
Osama bin Laden has been
attacked the United States and

3046
02:53:25,580 --> 02:53:27,860
Israel. Now, don't you think
that's kind of strange, folks,

3047
02:53:29,360 --> 02:53:33,500
you see because the largest
intelligence apparatus in the

3048
02:53:33,500 --> 02:53:38,420
world, with the biggest budget
in the history of the world, has

3049
02:53:38,420 --> 02:53:41,980
been looking for Osama bin Laden
for years and years and years,

3050
02:53:43,060 --> 02:53:48,700
and can't find him. You see, the
CIA created Osama bin Laden.

3051
02:53:49,960 --> 02:53:54,940
They recruited him, they trained
him. They found his leadership.

3052
02:53:55,000 --> 02:53:59,440
They brought them all together.
They showed him, them how to

3053
02:53:59,500 --> 02:54:02,940
fight the Soviet Union in
Afghanistan, and when that was

3054
02:54:02,940 --> 02:54:07,620
over, they still continued to
fund him and train him, and

3055
02:54:07,620 --> 02:54:11,940
they're now using him to help
bring about world government by

3056
02:54:11,940 --> 02:54:16,740
making him the big boogeyman,
because they can't use Saddam

3057
02:54:16,740 --> 02:54:21,140
Hussein anymore, because they
needed a new boogeyman, and

3058
02:54:21,680 --> 02:54:24,380
whatever is going to happen that
they're going to blame on Osama

3059
02:54:24,380 --> 02:54:26,600
bin Laden. Don't you even
believe it?

3060
02:54:27,320 --> 02:54:30,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, the early
podcasters, yes, yes. The early

3061
02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:35,480
podcasters. So your government
is no good people, and Kamala

3062
02:54:35,480 --> 02:54:39,380
Harris and all those people who
you think maybe is, Oh, she's so

3063
02:54:39,380 --> 02:54:44,200
funny with a coconut tree. She's
no good. She's part of that

3064
02:54:44,200 --> 02:54:49,480
system, part of and I can't
leave 911 alone without at least

3065
02:54:49,480 --> 02:54:50,800
playing part of this clip to

3066
02:54:50,800 --> 02:54:53,260
Unknown: the September attacks.
There were countless rumors

3067
02:54:53,260 --> 02:54:56,860
about strange coincidences
surrounding the events. One

3068
02:54:56,860 --> 02:54:59,800
report about a group of Middle
Eastern men spotted the morning

3069
02:54:59,800 --> 02:55:03,120
of. September 11, parked just
across the river from New York

3070
02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:06,840
City, has not gone away.
Investigation of their presence

3071
02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:10,080
has led to questions about
whether Israel was conducting

3072
02:55:10,140 --> 02:55:14,460
espionage on US soil. We're
joined now by ABC John Miller

3073
02:55:14,460 --> 02:55:16,920
with an exclusive report this
evening. That's

3074
02:55:16,920 --> 02:55:19,680
Adam Curry: right, Elizabeth,
this is a case that took the FBI

3075
02:55:19,680 --> 02:55:23,600
and the CIA more than two months
to sort out while five Israelis

3076
02:55:23,660 --> 02:55:26,720
waited in jail, the dancing
Israelis. It began when this

3077
02:55:26,720 --> 02:55:29,180
woman was watching the Twin
Towers burning from her

3078
02:55:29,180 --> 02:55:32,540
apartment in New Jersey. She
noticed three men on top of a

3079
02:55:32,540 --> 02:55:35,780
van posing for pictures with the
towers burning in the

3080
02:55:35,780 --> 02:55:36,440
background.

3081
02:55:36,620 --> 02:55:39,860
Unknown: And I could see that
they were, like, happy, you

3082
02:55:39,860 --> 02:55:40,660
know, they

3083
02:55:40,720 --> 02:55:41,140
they were,

3084
02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:43,540
they didn't look shocked to me.
You know, they didn't look

3085
02:55:43,540 --> 02:55:45,940
shocked. I thought it was very
strange. Do

3086
02:55:45,940 --> 02:55:48,220
Adam Curry: you remember the
dancing Israelis? Oh,

3087
02:55:48,220 --> 02:55:52,480
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. Well,
their first dancing Arabs, yeah.

3088
02:55:52,480 --> 02:55:52,660
But

3089
02:55:52,660 --> 02:55:54,640
Adam Curry: then they became
Israelis. They morphed into

3090
02:55:54,640 --> 02:55:58,900
dancing Israel a Mossad, by the
way. Mutter, we're not endorsing

3091
02:55:58,900 --> 02:56:02,280
Trump. We're just telling we
Yes, we have gone completely

3092
02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:07,140
agenda on no agenda. You cannot
have these horrible people of

3093
02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:10,260
the Democrat Party, the New
Democrat Party, running our

3094
02:56:10,260 --> 02:56:14,100
country anymore. That's right,
I'm gonna say it. It's not an

3095
02:56:14,100 --> 02:56:16,920
endorsement of Trump. That's a
what is the opposite of

3096
02:56:16,920 --> 02:56:17,640
endorsement?

3097
02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:22,820
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
a good opposite word would be.

3098
02:56:23,780 --> 02:56:27,200
Adam Curry: It's a denouncement
of Kamala Harris and the entire

3099
02:56:27,200 --> 02:56:30,920
system that is running our
country, which is not President.

3100
02:56:30,980 --> 02:56:36,440
Joe Biden, hey, I'm 60. You
know, it's like I got if I'm

3101
02:56:36,440 --> 02:56:36,800
lucky.

3102
02:56:36,800 --> 02:56:38,480
John C Dvorak: Oh, now you're
gonna start pulling the age

3103
02:56:38,480 --> 02:56:39,860
card. Yes, that's right.

3104
02:56:39,920 --> 02:56:43,120
Adam Curry: I'm doing a JCD
here, I don't have to watch the

3105
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:45,760
Video Music Awards anymore. I
know what it is.

3106
02:56:45,820 --> 02:56:49,000
John C Dvorak: This is an
interesting point. The Video

3107
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:53,320
Music Awards, the satanists,
yes, uh, you, you've been

3108
02:56:53,320 --> 02:56:57,460
watching him religiously, kind
of biting your lip, pissed off

3109
02:56:57,460 --> 02:56:59,320
that you were never invited
back.

3110
02:56:59,920 --> 02:57:00,360
Unknown: Oh yeah.

3111
02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:01,500
Remember,

3112
02:57:02,340 --> 02:57:06,120
John C Dvorak: this is everyone
knows this is true. And now, now

3113
02:57:06,120 --> 02:57:10,200
that you've turned 60, you've
decided to just eschew the whole

3114
02:57:10,200 --> 02:57:13,560
thing. I find that fascinating.
Screw.

3115
02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:16,140
Unknown: I'm gonna show my phone
by donation to know what you're

3116
02:57:16,440 --> 02:57:16,860
Imagine

3117
02:57:16,860 --> 02:57:19,440
all the people who could do with
us. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

3118
02:57:26,720 --> 02:57:30,620
Adam Curry: It's the Voldemort
Music Awards, the VMAs. It's no

3119
02:57:30,620 --> 02:57:34,820
good people stop watching that.
It's bad for your health. We're

3120
02:57:34,820 --> 02:57:37,160
going to thank the rest of the
people who supported us for

3121
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:42,040
Episode 1694, $50 and above.
John. Take us through them. Yes,

3122
02:57:42,040 --> 02:57:45,040
John C Dvorak: I will starting
with Mr. Planner perfect and

3123
02:57:45,040 --> 02:57:48,880
Platz mouth, Platt at Platts,
I'm sure is pronounced plat

3124
02:57:48,940 --> 02:57:53,500
Plath, Platt Smith, yeah,
probably uh. Nebraska, 170 902,

3125
02:57:54,280 --> 02:57:58,240
and it says to us, thanks for
waking people up. Please call

3126
02:57:58,240 --> 02:58:04,380
out my sub son Gabe for being a
douchebag, and he also mentions

3127
02:58:04,380 --> 02:58:09,060
the turning frogs gay concept.
Well, we play this came up

3128
02:58:09,060 --> 02:58:11,580
today, and it's been repeated
over and over. Interesting,

3129
02:58:11,580 --> 02:58:14,340
Unknown: isn't it? Yeah, Leslie

3130
02:58:14,820 --> 02:58:19,260
John C Dvorak: Sheeran Beck, I
believe, in Ashbury s berry

3131
02:58:19,260 --> 02:58:24,860
Park, uh, New Jersey, 150 and
it's her husband's birthday. Oh,

3132
02:58:25,520 --> 02:58:29,240
and he loves you guys. What
about you? Yeah, please give him

3133
02:58:29,240 --> 02:58:33,860
a shout. You got he's on the
birthday list. Lauren's D, uh,

3134
02:58:34,100 --> 02:58:39,800
Lauren is the cloister koister,
let me see in Belgium at 150 and

3135
02:58:39,800 --> 02:58:45,520
he needs a he needs to deduce.
You've been deduced. We need

3136
02:58:45,520 --> 02:58:47,500
more Belgium. Listeners,

3137
02:58:47,560 --> 02:58:51,820
Unknown: loud and the coaster, I
think, Lawrence, Lawrence,

3138
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:55,900
John C Dvorak: QQ, in Key West,
Florida, ah. Q, 35 he's,

3139
02:58:55,900 --> 02:58:58,060
Unknown: he's a true spook. QQ,
he's a real one.

3140
02:58:58,120 --> 02:59:00,480
John C Dvorak: Is he? Mm, hmm, I
met him. That makes sense with

3141
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:01,860
the name like QQ, yeah,

3142
02:59:01,860 --> 02:59:03,720
Adam Curry: he knows what he's
doing. It's good to have him on

3143
02:59:03,720 --> 02:59:04,260
our team.

3144
02:59:05,220 --> 02:59:08,100
John C Dvorak: That's a good
thing. He's got 59 for you. 59

3145
02:59:08,340 --> 02:59:15,600
for me, uh, 17 for some for the
17th anniversary. Okay? Ahmed.

3146
02:59:15,780 --> 02:59:20,300
Ahmed, Ahmed min in, I'm sorry,
Greg hoy, let's start with him.

3147
02:59:20,300 --> 02:59:26,420
Greg, hoy, he's hoy. Hoy. He's
in Pacifica. 133 33 Ahmed min in

3148
02:59:26,420 --> 02:59:32,060
Calgary, Alberta, Canada. And he
needs some jobs karma. Put that

3149
02:59:32,060 --> 02:59:36,380
at the end for you. Came with
100 Travis Moore in Gibsonville,

3150
02:59:36,380 --> 02:59:39,800
North Carolina. 100 he needs
goat karma for a buffalo. Bills,

3151
02:59:39,800 --> 02:59:45,340
win over Miami. Go bills, yeah,
good, big, actually, good, good

3152
02:59:45,340 --> 02:59:52,600
one. Adriana Marshall, where
Adriana in Shrewsbury, UK, 100.

3153
02:59:53,080 --> 02:59:57,040
Kevin McLaughlin finally comes
in again, never misses a beat.

3154
02:59:57,040 --> 03:00:00,660
He has yet to miss a show for
dive up to five years. Dollars.

3155
03:00:00,660 --> 03:00:05,100
8008 nice the Archduke of Luna.
He's the lover of American

3156
03:00:05,100 --> 03:00:11,940
boobs. Kelly chorky in Plymouth,
Michigan. 7903 Ryan Tierney in

3157
03:00:11,940 --> 03:00:17,820
Steven City, Virginia, 6767 with
a happy birthday to not Jake.

3158
03:00:18,480 --> 03:00:25,400
Luke suderman in Calgary, el
another Calgarian, 60 been

3159
03:00:25,400 --> 03:00:28,640
listening to a long time. Never
donated. Give him a deduction.

3160
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:31,940
Unknown: You've been deduced.

3161
03:00:32,180 --> 03:00:35,600
John C Dvorak: We have no
thoughts on our author, Nick

3162
03:00:35,600 --> 03:00:40,660
Bryant, no none. Sabrina Graham
in Moxie Washington as a great

3163
03:00:40,720 --> 03:00:47,980
Moxie. 5402 Michael Ragus,
Ragus, Ragusa, maybe in Tustin.

3164
03:00:48,040 --> 03:00:56,440
5277 William wild in Baltimore,
Maryland. 5272 David Ingram in

3165
03:00:56,440 --> 03:00:59,500
vara junction, Victoria,
Australia, used to be an artist

3166
03:00:59,500 --> 03:01:05,280
named Dustin, who is just a
unbelievable portraitist, and

3167
03:01:05,280 --> 03:01:08,280
she's kind of hung up on Marilyn
Monroe pictures. And I met her

3168
03:01:08,280 --> 03:01:11,640
some years ago, and I said, you
know, I got to get a hold of

3169
03:01:11,640 --> 03:01:16,440
you. And she says, just remember
that I'm Dustin from Tustin. Oh,

3170
03:01:16,500 --> 03:01:19,680
and that was the last I heard of
her. I can never find her sense.

3171
03:01:19,680 --> 03:01:21,920
If anybody knows Dustin from
Tustin.

3172
03:01:22,220 --> 03:01:24,380
Adam Curry: Let me know. John
wants to go on a date. Now. I

3173
03:01:25,040 --> 03:01:26,840
John C Dvorak: don't want to go
on a date. I want to get some

3174
03:01:27,140 --> 03:01:29,540
art Arno in Amstelveen.

3175
03:01:29,660 --> 03:01:33,740
Unknown: No, my and close to my
old hometown. Yeah, 51 bucks.

3176
03:01:33,800 --> 03:01:36,620
John C Dvorak: What's some
health karma for Sir Andre.

3177
03:01:36,860 --> 03:01:41,500
Andre Andre put that at the end.
Sir fatigue decoder, which is

3178
03:01:41,500 --> 03:01:48,100
all coders in Knoxville,
Tennessee, 51 bad idea supply.

3179
03:01:48,400 --> 03:01:50,860
Now we usually have their
location. I don't remember where

3180
03:01:50,860 --> 03:01:54,340
it is, but you can look them up
on the internet. They make some

3181
03:01:54,340 --> 03:02:00,360
terrific burning gear. Bad idea
supply. Mimi actually has some

3182
03:02:00,360 --> 03:02:06,480
of their stuff. William Spain in
Springdale or Arkansas, 50. And

3183
03:02:06,480 --> 03:02:09,480
these are all 50s, just naming
locations, starting with William

3184
03:02:09,480 --> 03:02:14,400
Spain and my Michelle petty in
Grand Forks. Steven schumac in

3185
03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:19,020
Xenia, Ohio. Tim Delvecchio in
Blandin, Pennsylvania. Mike moon

3186
03:02:19,620 --> 03:02:24,980
in Athens, Georgia. John spade
in Edmond, Oklahoma. Andrew

3187
03:02:24,980 --> 03:02:31,580
Grasso in Mineola, New York.
Ross rebich in Casper, Wyoming,

3188
03:02:31,580 --> 03:02:35,600
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills,
California. And last on our list

3189
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:40,840
is Steven ng in Box Elder, South
Dakota. Want to thank these

3190
03:02:40,840 --> 03:02:44,980
people for making show 1694, the
reality that it is

3191
03:02:45,040 --> 03:02:48,040
Adam Curry: good showing today.
Thank you all for the sustaining

3192
03:02:48,040 --> 03:02:50,680
donations. These are incredibly
important. Even if you've come

3193
03:02:50,680 --> 03:02:53,980
in with a 50 or above today,
consider signing up for

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03:02:53,980 --> 03:02:57,280
sustaining donation frequency
and amount of your choosing. Go

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03:02:57,280 --> 03:03:01,260
to no agenda donations.com. The
karmas As requested, jobs,

3196
03:03:01,380 --> 03:03:02,280
Unknown: jobs,

3197
03:03:02,400 --> 03:03:09,360
jobs and jobs. Let's vote for
jobs. Karma, no

3198
03:03:09,360 --> 03:03:10,740
Adam Curry: agenda donations.com

3199
03:03:18,540 --> 03:03:21,080
and remember, we have John step
of the day coming up and some

3200
03:03:21,080 --> 03:03:24,500
great end of show mixes. But
first, Leslie Sheeran beckwich,

3201
03:03:24,500 --> 03:03:26,900
their husband Warren, a very
happy one. He celebrated

3202
03:03:26,900 --> 03:03:30,860
yesterday. Ryan Tierney, happy
birthday to Sir Not Jake 13th.

3203
03:03:30,920 --> 03:03:35,540
Tomorrow, sir Petit coder turns
51 on the 14th. Duchess Kim

3204
03:03:35,540 --> 03:03:39,740
keeper of the nutty fluffers
turns 41 on September 22. Nathan

3205
03:03:39,800 --> 03:03:43,900
Rossier turns 33 and finally, on
our list, we say happy birthday

3206
03:03:43,900 --> 03:03:47,320
to Sir Luca. Happy birthday from
everybody here, the best podcast

3207
03:03:47,320 --> 03:03:48,280
in the universe.

3208
03:03:59,380 --> 03:04:03,780
And we thank once again, the
former Duke of Central Florida,

3209
03:04:03,780 --> 03:04:07,320
thanks to his massive
rubbilizer, plus $11 donation,

3210
03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:11,520
and he now becomes the Archduke
of Central Florida. That is a

3211
03:04:11,520 --> 03:04:14,880
very exclusive club, the
archdukes, by the way, John I

3212
03:04:15,000 --> 03:04:21,020
have the arc Duch Archduke and
Archduchess of Japan and the

3213
03:04:21,020 --> 03:04:24,080
surrounding seas, coming to
visit us in October here in the

3214
03:04:24,080 --> 03:04:27,860
hill country. Good. That sounds
like fun. Yeah, they're going to

3215
03:04:27,860 --> 03:04:30,260
come hang out. They're going to
stay at an Airbnb. We're going

3216
03:04:30,260 --> 03:04:33,800
to have some meals together.
Very excited to have them out

3217
03:04:33,800 --> 03:04:37,760
staying in Austin, there one
night in Austin, and then

3218
03:04:37,760 --> 03:04:40,480
they're coming out to
Fredericksburg. They want to

3219
03:04:40,720 --> 03:04:43,120
they said they're sick of
cities, and they want to come

3220
03:04:43,120 --> 03:04:45,520
out and hang out in the hill
country. Well, we'll wine and

3221
03:04:45,520 --> 03:04:47,860
dine them. Literally, we'll take
them to a winery. We'll take

3222
03:04:47,860 --> 03:04:48,160
them to

3223
03:04:48,160 --> 03:04:50,260
John C Dvorak: a restaurant, a
bunch of wineries. You can take

3224
03:04:50,260 --> 03:04:52,000
a trip with the wine country. We

3225
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:54,400
Adam Curry: can do a whole wine
and wine. You know, the

3226
03:04:54,400 --> 03:04:56,320
John C Dvorak: thing that's
interesting also is there's more

3227
03:04:56,320 --> 03:05:00,840
distilleries, it seems to me, in
the wine. Wine Country than

3228
03:05:00,840 --> 03:05:01,740
there is winery.

3229
03:05:01,740 --> 03:05:04,380
Adam Curry: No, there's more
wineries, but there are

3230
03:05:04,380 --> 03:05:07,380
certainly a number of
distilleries. But the winery,

3231
03:05:07,380 --> 03:05:10,260
well, if you want to call it a
winery, I mean, when you see the

3232
03:05:10,320 --> 03:05:14,580
AJ Foyt winery, you know that
we've kind of hit peak winery.

3233
03:05:15,360 --> 03:05:20,040
They literally have one of AJ
foyts cars, like a helmet, and

3234
03:05:20,040 --> 03:05:24,860
they sell some Napa wine there
anyway. Douglas Ellis is

3235
03:05:24,860 --> 03:05:28,220
standing by and need a blade for
him, because he's about to

3236
03:05:28,220 --> 03:05:31,580
become a knight. Douglas, that's
a good one for you. Come on up

3237
03:05:31,580 --> 03:05:34,700
here, sir. Well, not yet,
Douglas Ellis, because you are

3238
03:05:34,700 --> 03:05:37,400
about to become a Sir Knight of
the node, right? Jenner,

3239
03:05:37,400 --> 03:05:39,860
roundtable, thanks to your
support of the best podcast the

3240
03:05:39,860 --> 03:05:42,880
university the amount of $1,000
or more, even people who do it

3241
03:05:42,880 --> 03:05:46,480
on layaway donations, they make
it so I'm hereby very proud to

3242
03:05:46,480 --> 03:05:51,280
pronounce the KD as Sir Douglas
of the Bahamas for you, sir, we

3243
03:05:51,280 --> 03:05:54,700
have hookers and blow rent boys
and Chardonnay, private Pirate

3244
03:05:54,700 --> 03:05:58,000
Republic beer. Along with that,
some beer and some blunts and

3245
03:05:58,000 --> 03:06:00,820
some nuts. If you want Ruben
Esteban and rose a geisha, nsake

3246
03:06:00,820 --> 03:06:04,560
Vodka, Manila bong hit suburban
sparkling cider, escorts, ginger

3247
03:06:04,560 --> 03:06:07,320
ale and gerbils. We've got
breast milk and pablum, but of

3248
03:06:07,320 --> 03:06:10,140
course, at the top of the list
here for you, we've got some

3249
03:06:10,140 --> 03:06:14,160
mutton and Mead. Chomp away and
while you're munching on it, go

3250
03:06:14,160 --> 03:06:16,800
to no agenda rings.com. Check
out those beautiful rings. It's

3251
03:06:16,800 --> 03:06:19,740
for knights and for dames. It's
the signet ring so you can seal

3252
03:06:19,740 --> 03:06:22,340
your important correspondence
with it. Thank you. I went to

3253
03:06:22,340 --> 03:06:25,280
the PO Box. I have to mention
that on Sunday, got a couple of

3254
03:06:25,280 --> 03:06:28,040
nice things in the PO box. And I
love it when I get one of those

3255
03:06:28,280 --> 03:06:31,520
envelopes that is sealed with a
night ring. And of course, it

3256
03:06:31,520 --> 03:06:34,400
comes with wax to help you with
that, and the certificate of

3257
03:06:34,400 --> 03:06:38,720
authenticity. And welcome again
to the round table, Sir Douglas

3258
03:06:38,780 --> 03:06:40,240
of the Bahamas, what?

3259
03:06:46,660 --> 03:06:49,480
Yes, before we get to the tip of
the day and our end of show

3260
03:06:49,480 --> 03:06:53,080
mixes, we have a couple of
meetups to tell you about and

3261
03:06:53,260 --> 03:06:56,140
two reports, one from Keene New
Hampshire. Hello,

3262
03:06:56,140 --> 03:06:58,900
Unknown: Adam and John. This

3263
03:06:58,900 --> 03:07:03,840
is the keen meetup, the too many
eggs.com meetup, and we tried to

3264
03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:06,600
figure out who the Fed is.
There's much controversy.

3265
03:07:06,960 --> 03:07:07,680
Definitely not

3266
03:07:07,680 --> 03:07:09,180
me, Adam and John. This

3267
03:07:09,180 --> 03:07:13,080
is Sir Lorna beach enjoying this
meetup.

3268
03:07:13,500 --> 03:07:14,820
I'll pass it to my wife, who

3269
03:07:14,820 --> 03:07:16,260
will not speak. I

3270
03:07:16,260 --> 03:07:17,760
may be the spook

3271
03:07:20,040 --> 03:07:20,960
slave.

3272
03:07:21,020 --> 03:07:24,200
Adam Curry: And now we go to
Denver. This is the Nate is the

3273
03:07:24,200 --> 03:07:25,520
spook edition of their meetup,

3274
03:07:27,140 --> 03:07:31,880
Unknown: Denver, Colorado,
Lincoln's Roadhouse NFL kickoff

3275
03:07:31,880 --> 03:07:33,380
meetup. This

3276
03:07:33,380 --> 03:07:37,640
is Colin. No sign of the
Venezuelan gangs here tonight,

3277
03:07:37,640 --> 03:07:41,200
which is always good, but the
night is young. Hey. This is

3278
03:07:41,200 --> 03:07:44,260
Nate. First time meetup. Haven't
spotted the spook yet.

3279
03:07:44,740 --> 03:07:46,060
Spoil alert. He's the spook.

3280
03:07:47,500 --> 03:07:49,720
Serve soothsayer here, getting
ready to get my ass out of

3281
03:07:49,720 --> 03:07:51,940
Denver, because, oh my god.

3282
03:07:54,100 --> 03:07:57,100
And Josh desdem Shannon in the
morning, just checking in from

3283
03:07:57,100 --> 03:07:58,660
Northern Aurora. Hate to

3284
03:07:58,660 --> 03:08:03,000
call out the new guy, but Nate
is totally the spook. Cousin

3285
03:08:03,000 --> 03:08:04,380
Vito out all

3286
03:08:04,380 --> 03:08:06,300
Adam Curry: right. Cousin veto.
Thank you very much. Thank you

3287
03:08:06,300 --> 03:08:09,000
for that report, guys. This is
This is fun. These meetups are

3288
03:08:09,000 --> 03:08:11,580
fun. You can tell people are
laughing, having a good time,

3289
03:08:11,760 --> 03:08:15,420
watching some football, talking
about Venezuelan gangs in their

3290
03:08:15,420 --> 03:08:19,740
hoods. And you can join the
North Carolina triad meetup on

3291
03:08:19,740 --> 03:08:22,760
Saturday at the little brothers
brewing, formerly Kernersville

3292
03:08:22,760 --> 03:08:24,860
brewing. Oh, they changed the
name, but it still is in

3293
03:08:24,860 --> 03:08:29,000
Kernersville, North Carolina,
that's at two o'clock. Fear is

3294
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:32,540
freedom meetup for 40s and foul
also at two o'clock, but that is

3295
03:08:32,540 --> 03:08:37,760
in Chattanooga, Tennessee, at
champies in East Ridge, the

3296
03:08:37,760 --> 03:08:41,440
Sonoma Wino country meet up.
This is the fifth edition,

3297
03:08:41,440 --> 03:08:46,840
2:33pm, old casbier In Rohnert
Park, California, the Treasure

3298
03:08:46,840 --> 03:08:49,540
Valley Boise meet up three
o'clock at the Heritage social

3299
03:08:49,540 --> 03:08:52,780
club in Garden City, Idaho. A
lot happened on this Saturday,

3300
03:08:52,780 --> 03:08:55,480
the Fort Wayne, two year
anniversary club, 33 meetup,

3301
03:08:55,480 --> 03:08:59,920
3:33pm, Eastern casa, grill and
bar. Fort Wayne, Indiana. And

3302
03:08:59,920 --> 03:09:03,120
then on Sunday, our next show
day, the seafood and sangria.

3303
03:09:03,240 --> 03:09:05,940
Now this is going to be at
Harry's seafood Bar and Grill,

3304
03:09:05,940 --> 03:09:09,780
but you have to RSVP. It starts
at two o'clock in St Augustine,

3305
03:09:09,780 --> 03:09:12,480
Florida. Many more meetups
coming up all the way through

3306
03:09:12,480 --> 03:09:15,780
December, even into the new
year. You need to attend one of

3307
03:09:15,780 --> 03:09:18,780
these if you want the connection
that always brings you

3308
03:09:18,780 --> 03:09:22,520
protection that is part of being
a member and an upstanding

3309
03:09:22,520 --> 03:09:25,940
citizen and human resource of
Gitmo nation, go to no agenda

3310
03:09:25,940 --> 03:09:28,460
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you, start one

3311
03:09:28,460 --> 03:09:29,120
yourself.

3312
03:09:40,000 --> 03:09:43,360
Unknown: The name you wanna be,
where

3313
03:09:47,380 --> 03:09:49,120
everybody feels the same. It's
like a party.

3314
03:09:50,140 --> 03:09:55,180
Adam Curry: So before we get to
John's Tip of the day, we like

3315
03:09:55,180 --> 03:09:58,720
to look at the end of show ISOs,
which is always a fun way to end

3316
03:09:58,720 --> 03:10:01,440
the show, because we. Don't
really edit the show. We just do

3317
03:10:01,440 --> 03:10:07,680
it on the fly. And I have three,
and you have one I see, yep,

3318
03:10:08,040 --> 03:10:09,780
okay, shall I play yours first?

3319
03:10:10,140 --> 03:10:11,580
John C Dvorak: No, play yours.
Okay,

3320
03:10:11,640 --> 03:10:13,080
Unknown: it's all AI,

3321
03:10:13,620 --> 03:10:17,520
okay, that's not bad. Yeah, no
one understands this material

3322
03:10:18,000 --> 03:10:20,220
better than you. Too. Long,

3323
03:10:20,760 --> 03:10:23,600
Adam Curry: deep, yeah, well,
that's uh, James Earl Jones, who

3324
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:24,260
passed away,

3325
03:10:24,260 --> 03:10:26,360
John C Dvorak: so I understand
he's now dead. Yes,

3326
03:10:26,600 --> 03:10:31,160
Unknown: I find your lack of
faith disturbing. Yeah, no good.

3327
03:10:31,880 --> 03:10:35,060
John C Dvorak: The first one was
okay. Let me hear mine goes off

3328
03:10:35,060 --> 03:10:37,160
a different track. Oh, okay,

3329
03:10:37,220 --> 03:10:38,540
Unknown: here we go. Lies,

3330
03:10:38,540 --> 03:10:40,040
lies, lies, lies.

3331
03:10:41,060 --> 03:10:42,400
Adam Curry: It's an edited one.

3332
03:10:43,480 --> 03:10:44,260
John C Dvorak: Of course it is.

3333
03:10:44,320 --> 03:10:46,600
Unknown: It's all AI, wow. What

3334
03:10:48,220 --> 03:10:49,000
do you think?

3335
03:10:50,980 --> 03:10:54,100
John C Dvorak: I think all AI? I
like it actually that. Yeah,

3336
03:10:54,100 --> 03:10:55,180
let's go with all AI,

3337
03:10:55,240 --> 03:10:57,460
Adam Curry: all AI. It is. Now
it is time, ladies and

3338
03:10:57,460 --> 03:11:00,220
gentlemen, for the famous Tip of
the Day from John Green.

3339
03:11:02,320 --> 03:11:06,360
Unknown: Last for you, sometimes

3340
03:11:09,180 --> 03:11:12,360
Adam Curry: these tips of the
day are sometimes polarizing and

3341
03:11:12,360 --> 03:11:16,380
very controversial. They can be
polarizing. Well, we got a lot,

3342
03:11:16,380 --> 03:11:19,560
I got a lot of feedback about
your your bungee dog leash,

3343
03:11:19,560 --> 03:11:24,980
whoo, like, what? Oh, I got
people texting me. No, it's no

3344
03:11:24,980 --> 03:11:27,560
good. Never use a bungee leash.

3345
03:11:29,540 --> 03:11:32,240
John C Dvorak: I know you should
talk to Mimi about this. She

3346
03:11:32,240 --> 03:11:36,560
owns a kennel. Yes, I know who
has standing in this field.

3347
03:11:36,620 --> 03:11:39,380
Adam Curry: Well, so do some of
the people who emailed me,

3348
03:11:39,620 --> 03:11:41,560
John C Dvorak: unless they own a
kennel. I'm not listening to

3349
03:11:41,560 --> 03:11:41,680
him.

3350
03:11:44,140 --> 03:11:47,680
Adam Curry: It's okay. Hey, it's
okay. It's okay. And I got a

3351
03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:54,460
note from Jay telling me why the
the extender roller leash is no

3352
03:11:54,460 --> 03:11:55,000
good.

3353
03:11:55,840 --> 03:11:57,760
John C Dvorak: She wrote a whole
article, you lose a finger,

3354
03:11:57,820 --> 03:11:58,720
yeah, yeah. She wrote

3355
03:11:58,720 --> 03:12:01,380
Adam Curry: a whole article
about it, yeah. Oh, so it's not

3356
03:12:01,380 --> 03:12:03,840
bad for the dog. It's bad for
me, for my finger,

3357
03:12:04,380 --> 03:12:06,600
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah, not
good for the dog either. But

3358
03:12:07,020 --> 03:12:08,400
okay, but sometimes

3359
03:12:08,400 --> 03:12:10,020
Adam Curry: it's just
controversial. Doesn't mean

3360
03:12:10,020 --> 03:12:10,500
they're bad.

3361
03:12:11,940 --> 03:12:14,220
John C Dvorak: This is a simple
one. This is kind of not, not a

3362
03:12:14,220 --> 03:12:17,940
rerun of the old ones, because
it's brand new. It seems as if

3363
03:12:17,940 --> 03:12:20,660
Costco, and I'm going there
right after the show to see if

3364
03:12:20,660 --> 03:12:23,480
they have it here locally, but
it'll be everywhere eventually.

3365
03:12:23,720 --> 03:12:29,660
The new four pack of cheap
Bordeaux is now in Instagram.

3366
03:12:29,660 --> 03:12:33,800
It's in a little wooden box, and
it's a 2022, edition. And

3367
03:12:33,800 --> 03:12:38,660
there'll be four wines in there,
a couple of Bordeaux superiors

3368
03:12:38,660 --> 03:12:41,980
and a couple of Premier Cote de
Bordeaux wines, including a

3369
03:12:41,980 --> 03:12:45,880
Cadillac, which is an area in
entre de mer that makes a

3370
03:12:45,880 --> 03:12:49,060
terrific wine. For some reason,
this little area makes a great

3371
03:12:49,060 --> 03:12:54,220
wine. And the four bottles of
wine in in this in the in the

3372
03:12:54,220 --> 03:12:58,300
states that don't add excise tax
to their alcohols, which is most

3373
03:12:58,300 --> 03:13:06,660
states, is $29.95 or 99 cents,
wow, which is $7.50 a bottle for

3374
03:13:06,660 --> 03:13:09,660
better wine than anything
California produces.

3375
03:13:09,780 --> 03:13:12,660
Adam Curry: Okay, now, how can
we identify this packaging?

3376
03:13:12,840 --> 03:13:14,100
Because this is this. It's in

3377
03:13:14,100 --> 03:13:17,160
John C Dvorak: a small box. It's
like a wooden box showing four

3378
03:13:17,160 --> 03:13:22,040
bottles. It's like a It's done.
It's in a mini crate, very you

3379
03:13:22,040 --> 03:13:25,400
can't not identify because the
only they only do this, these

3380
03:13:25,400 --> 03:13:29,600
little crates is little, like a
little crate of four bottles at

3381
03:13:29,600 --> 03:13:32,420
Costco, and there's not, like a
bunch of competing ones. There's

3382
03:13:32,420 --> 03:13:33,980
usually only one. Wow.

3383
03:13:33,980 --> 03:13:36,260
Adam Curry: This is a big tip,
people. This is what we always

3384
03:13:36,260 --> 03:13:39,860
wave. This is really the premier
tip you've always given us is

3385
03:13:39,860 --> 03:13:43,900
the good cheap wines at Costco.
This is a very, very, very big

3386
03:13:43,900 --> 03:13:44,740
deal. Yeah, these

3387
03:13:44,740 --> 03:13:47,020
John C Dvorak: are very, you
know, when they first started

3388
03:13:47,020 --> 03:13:50,680
doing this about, I think maybe
10 years ago, and they did every

3389
03:13:50,680 --> 03:13:53,260
vintage, and they did different
kinds. They did gold medal

3390
03:13:53,260 --> 03:13:56,980
winners, and most of these ones
are 90 points or above. And

3391
03:13:56,980 --> 03:14:00,660
which is accurate, I didn't
think much about the idea, until

3392
03:14:00,660 --> 03:14:03,540
I started trying these wines,
and then, Holy mackerel, this is

3393
03:14:03,540 --> 03:14:04,500
a steal.

3394
03:14:05,220 --> 03:14:07,800
Adam Curry: And is there a limit
per customer? No,

3395
03:14:07,920 --> 03:14:08,820
John C Dvorak: just load up

3396
03:14:10,260 --> 03:14:15,420
Unknown: for your consideration
the tip of the day. Yes,

3397
03:14:15,420 --> 03:14:15,960
everybody,

3398
03:14:15,960 --> 03:14:18,900
Adam Curry: that is your tip of
the day. And it was a big one.

3399
03:14:19,140 --> 03:14:23,180
Excellent tip. John, thank you
very much. We've got end of show

3400
03:14:23,180 --> 03:14:26,000
mixes, some good ones. We have.
David kekta, he comes in every

3401
03:14:26,000 --> 03:14:28,880
single Thank you, darling. He
comes in every single day, every

3402
03:14:28,880 --> 03:14:32,300
single show day. OYSTEIN Berger,
with his, what I presume is his

3403
03:14:32,300 --> 03:14:36,620
accordion and Tom Starkweather,
the melodious owl himself,

3404
03:14:37,040 --> 03:14:41,140
checking in with end of show mix
and coming right up after the

3405
03:14:41,140 --> 03:14:43,600
show ends, it'll be a seamless
transition on no

3406
03:14:43,600 --> 03:14:47,260
agendastream.com, for those in
the troll room, the 100th and

3407
03:14:47,260 --> 03:14:52,960
final episode of mofax with Adam
curry, which we dropped

3408
03:14:52,960 --> 03:14:59,140
yesterday. And it's, it's a it's
a doozy. It's a doozy. It's the

3409
03:14:59,140 --> 03:15:03,180
hard R. Is the title of it. You
will not want to miss it. Listen

3410
03:15:03,180 --> 03:15:09,540
to all 100 they're Evergreen.
And I am coming to you from the

3411
03:15:09,540 --> 03:15:12,720
lovely heart of the Texas Hill
Country, Fredericksburg, as it's

3412
03:15:12,720 --> 03:15:15,660
known. It's in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning.

3413
03:15:15,660 --> 03:15:17,700
Y'all. I'm Adam curry, and

3414
03:15:17,700 --> 03:15:19,500
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where the

3415
03:15:19,500 --> 03:15:23,480
elections are rigged, and we all
know it. I'm John C Dvorak. We

3416
03:15:23,480 --> 03:15:23,960
return

3417
03:15:23,960 --> 03:15:26,600
Adam Curry: on Sunday with more
media deconstruction just for

3418
03:15:26,600 --> 03:15:29,540
you, because we love it and
we're not tired of the cycle.

3419
03:15:29,720 --> 03:15:33,560
Until then remember us at no
agenda donations.com Adios,

3420
03:15:33,560 --> 03:15:36,980
mofos or hooey, hooey and such.

3421
03:15:39,080 --> 03:15:40,720
Unknown: Tonight, the high
stakes showdown here in

3422
03:15:40,720 --> 03:15:43,240
Philadelphia between vice
president Kamala Harris and

3423
03:15:43,240 --> 03:15:44,740
former President Donald Trump.

3424
03:15:45,100 --> 03:15:49,960
I was so proud that she was
presidential. She showed her new

3425
03:15:49,960 --> 03:15:55,900
way forward, new and forward her
plan to take us forward, command

3426
03:15:55,900 --> 03:16:00,480
of the issues, eloquence in
talking about them again,

3427
03:16:00,480 --> 03:16:04,020
strategic in her thinking. I
thought she was just

3428
03:16:04,020 --> 03:16:09,060
spectacular, but her excellence
did get under the skin, and it

3429
03:16:09,060 --> 03:16:13,560
was so strange, because one of
the things I was so proud about

3430
03:16:13,920 --> 03:16:18,540
Kamala, the Vice President last
night, was that she prioritized

3431
03:16:18,600 --> 03:16:23,540
in her answers, any one of them
could be a program's discussion,

3432
03:16:23,720 --> 03:16:26,900
but she prioritized the
importance of whether it was a

3433
03:16:26,900 --> 03:16:29,480
woman's right to choose, whether
it's our national security,

3434
03:16:29,840 --> 03:16:33,020
whether it's issues that relate
to our economy and the rest she

3435
03:16:33,020 --> 03:16:38,960
prioritized, and that makes
sense so much more to come as we

3436
03:16:39,020 --> 03:16:42,400
go from here. So I thought she
looked presidential. I thought

3437
03:16:43,060 --> 03:16:43,480
he looks

3438
03:16:43,600 --> 03:16:46,120
silly when a fighter loses, he
is I want a rematch.

3439
03:16:46,540 --> 03:16:47,980
I want a rematch. They always

3440
03:16:48,280 --> 03:16:53,380
the losing person, the fighter,
the debater. They always ask for

3441
03:16:53,440 --> 03:16:55,720
a rematch. Who's President

3442
03:16:55,720 --> 03:16:56,320
right now? I

3443
03:16:56,320 --> 03:16:58,300
don't even know if Joe Biden
knows he's alive. I

3444
03:17:13,560 --> 03:17:22,760
finally, election season is
here. Have no fearical. For at

3445
03:17:22,940 --> 03:17:24,500
least four more years to

3446
03:17:30,020 --> 03:17:32,600
deconstruct the news and make it
Clear

3447
03:17:36,920 --> 03:17:47,740
you king that the media is
mostly insincere. Ah,

3448
03:18:08,520 --> 03:18:11,160
oh, finally, election season is

3449
03:18:16,320 --> 03:18:18,480
really the triple Kabbalah this

3450
03:18:22,800 --> 03:18:26,300
year. There is no state in this
country where it is legal to

3451
03:18:26,300 --> 03:18:28,940
kill a baby after it's gone,
execute

3452
03:18:28,940 --> 03:18:32,360
the baby. Well, I think this is
so rich people can't go out and

3453
03:18:32,360 --> 03:18:35,840
buy cereal or bacon or eggs or
anything else and

3454
03:18:35,840 --> 03:18:40,720
understand they're eating the
pets. This comes at a time run,

3455
03:18:40,720 --> 03:18:45,340
Spot Run where the people of our
country actually need a leader.

3456
03:18:45,820 --> 03:18:49,540
I have been a leader on
fertilization. He exchanged love

3457
03:18:49,540 --> 03:18:52,420
letters with Kim Jong. Un the
whole

3458
03:18:52,420 --> 03:18:54,340
place is going to get blown

3459
03:18:54,400 --> 03:18:57,760
up. Talk about extreme when
somebody does

3460
03:18:57,760 --> 03:19:00,360
a bad job, I fire them. Donald
Trump

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was fired by 81 million people

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because of the things that they
say about

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strength is not in beating
people down, it's in lifting

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people up. Now she wants to

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do transgender operations on
illegal aliens that are in

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prison, coming

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from someone who has been
prosecuted.

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I probably took a bullet to the
head, and it bounced back, and

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it went to their benefit, and

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an attempt to take us backward.
People go to leave my

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rallies.org/n,

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a it's all AI and.