1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,700 John C Dvorak: It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 2 00:00:03,060 --> 00:00:03,900 Unknown: Adam curry. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,160 John C Dvorak, 4 00:00:06,180 --> 00:00:08,820 Adam Curry: 2024, this is your award winning gimbal nation 5 00:00:08,820 --> 00:00:10,980 media assassination episode 1702. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,420 Unknown: This is no agenda. We're unedited by CBS, and we're 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,740 Adam Curry: broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas new 8 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:23,180 country here in FEMA reach number six in the morning. 9 00:00:23,180 --> 00:00:24,680 Everybody. I'm Adam curry 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,740 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where we advise 11 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:31,940 you to stop using the word triage. I'm Johnson Dvorak 12 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:33,980 Buzzkill. 13 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,360 Adam Curry: I think we should use that all the time during our 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,580 show. We're triaging all the clips we got, triaging all the 15 00:00:42,580 --> 00:00:44,920 boots on the ground, so we can make sure we get all the right 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,240 stuff out there. Triaging. I kind of like it. 17 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:54,220 John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I was watching one of the Fox shows, 18 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:58,480 the fox, fox morning chatterbox. They like to say triage for 19 00:00:58,780 --> 00:01:01,320 Adam Curry: everything. The Fox chatterbox. There you go. That's 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,820 a good one. The Fox chatterbox, yeah, the triage. So it seems to 21 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:11,580 me like, okay, it sucks, but I think the weather people kind of 22 00:01:11,580 --> 00:01:15,480 got it all wrong. Wasn't everyone supposed to be dead and 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,620 destroyed and everything swept away and the storm surge drowned 24 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:25,520 everybody. Yet they forgot to predict the tornadoes. 126 of 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,140 them, to be exact. Where was that prediction? I didn't hear 26 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:31,100 anyone Well, it 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,980 John C Dvorak: matters not they can predict the climate, but 28 00:01:33,980 --> 00:01:39,080 they can't predict this. Yeah, happens the next day. Yeah, of 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:39,620 course. We're 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:40,780 Adam Curry: we are, of course, by 31 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:44,740 John C Dvorak: the way, I want to say that Santis, DeSantis, 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,000 DeSantis De Santis, I was watching his entire press 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,620 conference. This guy really is a good governor. Oh yeah. He just 34 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:56,380 seems to be on top of everything. He's got the facts 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,960 in front of him. He goes on and on and on. He's got all kinds of 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,060 details. He's smart enough to do stuff in advance. And the thing 37 00:02:03,060 --> 00:02:06,240 that impressed me most, most was a couple of days ago, when he 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,000 says, you know, we're, we're closing all the toll booths on 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,700 all this expressway so people can get out of there time to 40 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:15,300 stop and pay five bucks to get through. Yeah, that makes sense. 41 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:18,120 He said, just one thing after another, if it wasn't for that 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,740 whiny voice of his 43 00:02:21,540 --> 00:02:23,360 Adam Curry: when, and even though he's not wearing the 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,000 white boots, you still can't get that out of your head. You still 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,480 see him with the white boots. Hard to hard to visualize him 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,200 without those 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,020 John C Dvorak: competency and it's just there's a combination 48 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:36,020 of things. But he's definitely a governor you'd like to have as a 49 00:02:36,020 --> 00:02:36,500 governor, 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Adam Curry: yes, but every I mean, we have lots of friends 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,360 and lots of course, there's lots of producers in in Florida, and 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,560 the reporting was just freaking everybody out. It was, it was, 53 00:02:47,740 --> 00:02:50,560 and of course, it's not great. There's no doubt, no doubt 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,520 there's a problem. But it's not at all the destruction that we 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,680 were sold. I feel gypped the tornadoes. That's the thing that 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,840 got me though. What? Not a single mention of that. And then 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,540 these were not like little tornadoes. These were big 58 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:09,240 twisters just appeared out of nowhere, blowing 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,200 John C Dvorak: up stuff left and right. Yeah, yeah, the funny. 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,260 And there was mentioned that, you know, in Florida, where they 61 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:18,660 do have tornadoes on occasion, especially with some 62 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:23,540 accompanying some hurricanes, you can't build tornado shelters 63 00:03:23,540 --> 00:03:26,720 because the water table is so high. No, you can't. It's like, 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,200 you know, the water table is right under the house. So 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,860 Adam Curry: of course, we hope everyone's okay and that the 66 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:38,180 damage isn't too bad. We we won't know, really, for a little 67 00:03:38,180 --> 00:03:41,140 bit, but the they had no good reports. They didn't have anyone 68 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:45,580 blowing over from the wind. The wind didn't even seem, I mean, 69 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:48,460 you know, I've been doing a little because, oh man, 70 00:03:49,780 --> 00:03:55,300 John C Dvorak: by the way, uh, Cooper, uh, pooper got, yeah, 71 00:03:55,300 --> 00:04:00,960 pooper, yeah. He was on CNN. He got hit by debris. It was, it's 72 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:03,480 a piece of styrofoam hit him, and it was like a roll of 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,600 disaster. Oh, so 74 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,400 Adam Curry: I don't want to make light of it, because, you know, 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,260 if you're, if your house is flooded, 76 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:13,560 John C Dvorak: it sucks, yeah, or even gone, if, 77 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,200 Adam Curry: if it's gone, that's what seemed the wind damage 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,840 seemed to be pretty minimal. I mean, just, I 79 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:22,280 John C Dvorak: don't think so. Oh, the wind damage was all the 80 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:23,240 damage, but 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,940 Adam Curry: it was, well, here's the one that made me kind of 82 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:26,600 smile and 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,060 Unknown: take a look at this video just into the newsroom 84 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:33,200 from Tropicana Field in St Petersburg, where the stadium's 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,340 rooftop has literally been torn apart by the winds from 86 00:04:37,340 --> 00:04:40,600 Hurricane Milton. You may remember Tropicana Field was 87 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,260 transformed into a shelter for first responders ahead of the 88 00:04:44,260 --> 00:04:45,040 big storm. 89 00:04:45,460 --> 00:04:49,000 Adam Curry: So it's a stadium with a vinyl roof where a team 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:55,300 plays that no one cares about, but that was the news that was a 91 00:04:55,300 --> 00:05:00,720 very flimsy roof looked just like vinyl you. It 92 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Unknown: was, yeah. So, okay, just 93 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,220 John C Dvorak: a coded. It was just a it wasn't really, it was 94 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,600 more of a balloon roof, 95 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,720 Adam Curry: yeah. So, yeah, of course, the 96 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,120 John C Dvorak: I will say, by the I will say, the sound really 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,900 does stink. 98 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,720 Adam Curry: What do you mean what you're hearing? 99 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:21,980 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not like it's, I don't know what the 100 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:25,760 chat room thinks, but it's not like it I can't understand you. 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,160 It's just like a lousy phone connection. 102 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:30,740 Adam Curry: Oh, that's interesting. No, it sounds good 103 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:35,660 for everyone there. See, is there? Let me see, I want to 104 00:05:35,660 --> 00:05:38,480 make sure, oh, speech optimized. We don't want that. We want 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,620 music optimized. Hold 106 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:40,240 Unknown: on a second. Let 107 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Adam Curry: me see if that'll break 108 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,060 John C Dvorak: every musical tones, 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,040 Adam Curry: yes, for my musical stylings, John, for my musical 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,060 styling styling. 111 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,160 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, yeah, maybe, 112 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,980 Adam Curry: maybe that's better. I don't know, but it's that's 113 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,340 what you're hearing is not what was what's recording. So, of 114 00:05:57,340 --> 00:06:04,020 course, I can't get away from they modified the weather. They 115 00:06:04,020 --> 00:06:07,380 seeded the clouds, they steered it that way. 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,040 John C Dvorak: Just had a good commentary on this, too. I wish 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,180 I had clipped it. It would came in late. It was this morning. He 118 00:06:15,180 --> 00:06:20,360 said, he says this is he's basically said. He says both. He 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,660 did a good job of balancing it, because he condemned the idea 120 00:06:23,660 --> 00:06:25,940 that they're changing the weather, because it's hurricane 121 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:28,760 season. So this happens all the time. The worst hurricane, he 122 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:33,080 points out, was in on late the famous Labor Day hurricane of 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,980 the 1930s which was worse than anything. And he says, this is 124 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:40,180 hurricane seasons, Hurricane weather. And you get these 125 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:44,260 hurricanes, as he says, and but it's not just the left, the 126 00:06:44,260 --> 00:06:48,880 right, not mentioning Marjorie, Taylor Greene, he says it's also 127 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,300 the left who blames everything on fossil fuels. So he did a 128 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:58,240 really good balancing act. This guy is very talented governor. 129 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,020 Adam Curry: Well, there was a so I have a couple of clips because 130 00:07:01,020 --> 00:07:04,920 it was worth playing. Since Biden, they rolled Biden out. 131 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,400 This may have been the real Biden. You can't tell when he's 132 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,160 if he's not standing up. It's hard to see if I can't see the 133 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,500 back of his head. I don't know if it's Biden or daddy long 134 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,880 legs, but he came out and slurs something out alive. 135 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:21,860 Unknown: There's simply no place for this to happen. Former 136 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:26,180 President Trump has led the onslaught of lies. Sessions have 137 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:29,780 been made that property is being confiscated. That's simply not 138 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:33,140 true. They're saying people impacted by these terms will 139 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:38,300 receive $750 in cash and no more. That's simply not true. 140 00:07:38,540 --> 00:07:43,840 The money is needed for this crisis is being diverted to 141 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,120 migrants. What a ridiculous thing to say. Now the claims are 142 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,720 getting even more bizarre. Congressman Marjorie, Taylor 143 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,140 Greene, Congresswoman Georgia, federal government is literally 144 00:07:56,140 --> 00:07:59,740 controlling the weather, controlling the weather. It's 145 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:04,260 beyond ridiculous. It's got to stop moments like this. There 146 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:07,800 are no red or blue states. There's one United States of 147 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,580 America where neighbors are helping neighbors, volunteers 148 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:14,160 and first responders are risking everything, including their own 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,400 lives, to help their fellow Americans. 150 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Adam Curry: Jeff, so that was a very that was real stately 151 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:27,380 there. Joe and MSNBC really ran with this ball. And thank 152 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,220 goodness we're connecting this to climate change. I mean, it 153 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:35,300 took they didn't do, I've got clips. They didn't do it during 154 00:08:35,299 --> 00:08:38,719 John C Dvorak: Helene, but oh no, they did it big time on this 155 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:40,359 one. Yeah. So I was just start 156 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,480 Adam Curry: with a few, and then I'll do a few Chris Hayes clips, 157 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,980 because, man, he was hot over there on MSNBC. Hurricane 158 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:48,340 Helene, 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,920 John C Dvorak: I thought you were going to say, thank God for 160 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,220 MSNBC, because nobody listens to it. Well, 161 00:08:54,220 --> 00:08:57,580 Adam Curry: no. I mean, they need us. They need us to get to 162 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:59,380 any listenership. And here you go 163 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,460 Unknown: now. Hurricane Helene just showed us how this 164 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:05,880 phenomenon is wreaking havoc, even in areas previously thought 165 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,140 to be safe from these kinds of storms, tucked away deep in the 166 00:09:10,140 --> 00:09:13,920 Blue Ridge Mountains, Asheville, North Carolina, was considered a 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,640 little slice of paradise. Some called it a climate Haven, 168 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,480 suggesting it was immune to extreme weather. 169 00:09:20,540 --> 00:09:24,020 Adam Curry: Now, I don't know where MSNBC got this idea from, 170 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:29,120 what? Because there was a huge there was a equally large storm 171 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,180 in 1916 there was one as as recent as 2014 what so. But then 172 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:38,540 they have this like this. This footage of birds chirping and 173 00:09:38,540 --> 00:09:41,380 oh, it's a haven. We're safe here, huh? 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,580 Unknown: But last week that paradise turned out to be an 175 00:09:45,580 --> 00:09:49,960 illusion. Oh, my God, battering the area for days. Stop 176 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,560 John C Dvorak: a second. Stop. Stop the I, you know, this is an 177 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,500 interesting form of reporting, where you create a false 178 00:09:56,500 --> 00:10:01,740 scenario, yeah, and then you report. On it, free, creative, 179 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,560 classic, this is what these guys do. They should be ashamed of 180 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:10,320 themselves at NBC News, no, 181 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,480 Adam Curry: I think they're doing a great job. This is 182 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,120 they're doing exactly what they're paid to do, to promote 183 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,620 climate change and at the same time discredit Trump and anyone 184 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:21,380 else who's in his camp, ripping apart 185 00:10:21,380 --> 00:10:24,860 Unknown: homes, washing out roads, toppling trees and 186 00:10:24,860 --> 00:10:28,520 cutting off entire towns. New research out this week says 187 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,520 there is strong evidence human driven climate change 188 00:10:31,580 --> 00:10:35,240 strengthened Helene's destructive power. It made the 189 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:35,660 storms 190 00:10:35,780 --> 00:10:38,780 Adam Curry: strong evidence Helene strengthened, 191 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:42,040 strengthened by human made climate change, so just 192 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,700 strengthened it it's a multiplier, a force multiplier. 193 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,260 Force multiplier term is rapid intensification. We'll get to 194 00:10:50,260 --> 00:10:50,980 that human 195 00:10:50,980 --> 00:10:53,800 Unknown: driven climate change strength into Lean's destructive 196 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,400 power. One study saying it made the storms, rainfall up to 20% 197 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,980 heavier, 28 winds 7% stronger. Seeing 198 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:06,540 these events that are boosted by climate change, stronger, 199 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:09,840 wetter, lasting longer. Another report 200 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,220 found that a warmer climate led to 50% more rain over parts of 201 00:11:14,220 --> 00:11:17,940 the Carolinas and Georgia than would have been expected. You 202 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:18,180 know, 203 00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:22,160 Adam Curry: is just as a little entremond clip here. So it's 204 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,540 stronger, it's wetter. PBS had this to say about last year and 205 00:11:26,540 --> 00:11:26,840 2023 206 00:11:27,380 --> 00:11:30,380 Unknown: was the driest year for the world's rivers in more than 207 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:31,220 three decades. 208 00:11:31,580 --> 00:11:34,340 Adam Curry: I mean, make up your mind. Is it going to be wetter 209 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:38,120 or is it going to be drier? I mean, they can't seem to figure 210 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:38,660 out what it's 211 00:11:38,660 --> 00:11:40,540 John C Dvorak: going to be. Unfortunately, there's no 212 00:11:40,540 --> 00:11:42,700 coordinated yeah, there's no 213 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:44,560 Adam Curry: messaging, no central command, 214 00:11:44,620 --> 00:11:47,920 John C Dvorak: there's no exactly they set that up. Yeah, 215 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,720 we wouldn't have these issues. Curry 216 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,060 Adam Curry: Dvorak Consulting Group. We're available. Do it. 217 00:11:52,060 --> 00:11:54,700 We're available. We're available. All right, so let's 218 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:57,460 just face the fact climate to climate change is it's, it's 219 00:11:57,460 --> 00:11:59,020 responsible for everything. Storms 220 00:11:59,020 --> 00:12:01,500 Unknown: like Killeen and what we expect to come from Milton 221 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,860 are exactly, precisely what experts have been screaming 222 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:08,460 about for decades now, as John Morales, Nicole Wallace, it is 223 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:12,360 why he got so emotional over last night's forecast. When I 224 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,860 saw 50 millibars in 10 hours, I just broke down with a mixture 225 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:21,260 of empathy, angst over these increasing extreme weather 226 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:25,160 events, and also frustration, because for over 20 years, I've 227 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,240 been trying to communicate on on what would be coming if we did 228 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:34,580 not check the injection of greenhouse gasses into the 229 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:38,900 atmosphere. And well, here we are, and it's not going to get 230 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:39,860 any better. This guy 231 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:41,800 Adam Curry: was crying on the air. I 232 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,080 John C Dvorak: have, you know, this is funny. You have that 233 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,460 clip from from Chris Hayes, because in my little series of 234 00:12:48,460 --> 00:12:53,440 hurricane clips, it's included exactly this, well, not exactly, 235 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,820 but pretty much the same clip, only. He's crying more from NPR, 236 00:12:58,300 --> 00:13:01,380 the same guy. This is the coordinated effort. Do 237 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:03,180 Adam Curry: you know which clip that is? Can we play that real 238 00:13:03,180 --> 00:13:03,480 quick? 239 00:13:04,380 --> 00:13:05,820 John C Dvorak: I'd rather play the whole series. All 240 00:13:05,820 --> 00:13:06,960 Adam Curry: right, all right. I'll get through this. 241 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,140 Unknown: So we are now preparing for the second major climate 242 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:12,480 change fueled hurricane in two weeks, which could put a 243 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,680 dangerous strain on federal resources. Climate fueled New 244 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:19,680 York Times reports the Federal Emergency Management Agency is 245 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,220 running out of staff to deal with the potential devastation 246 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:25,520 of Hurricane. No as of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA 247 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,580 personnel were available to respond to hurricane or other 248 00:13:28,580 --> 00:13:31,820 disasters. While FEMA says it is well equipped to handle the 249 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:35,360 strains, it is a reminder the challenge of more frequent 250 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,120 natural disasters the times. What did 251 00:13:39,980 --> 00:13:44,860 John C Dvorak: he say, he said 9% responded to the to one of 252 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:49,060 their was it? Helene, yes. Well, I thought they were like all, 253 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:50,620 all hands on deck, yeah. 254 00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:54,100 Adam Curry: But the rest is at the border, helping people at 255 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:56,200 the border, getting them into hotels. As 256 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,900 Unknown: of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA personnel were 257 00:13:58,900 --> 00:14:01,800 available to respond. Oh, that was available. Where's that 258 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,620 John C Dvorak: 90% where the other 91 259 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,420 Adam Curry: that must be in 260 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,780 John C Dvorak: western 1000s and 1000s of people? Well, I 261 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:12,840 Adam Curry: hope they're in western North Carolina, but they 262 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,180 should have figured out anyway, that's just continue the 263 00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:17,820 Unknown: hurricane or other disasters. Now, while FEMA says 264 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,320 it is well equipped to handle the strains, it is reminder the 265 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,500 challenge of more frequent natural disasters. The Times 266 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:27,560 noting that FEMA is also responding to flooding and land 267 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,080 signs in Vermont, tornadoes in Kansas, the aftermath of 268 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,020 Tropical Storm Debbie in New York and Georgia and the watch 269 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:35,420 fire in Arizona. And those are just disasters that were 270 00:14:35,420 --> 00:14:37,340 declared the past two weeks. Okay, so 271 00:14:37,340 --> 00:14:38,600 Adam Curry: now Chris gets Wait. 272 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:41,140 John C Dvorak: I want to point out. I want you to remember that 273 00:14:41,140 --> 00:14:45,760 he said more frequent, more free, because I in my series of 274 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 clips, I got a little contradiction in here. Good, 275 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,000 good. 276 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Adam Curry: So now Chris Hayes gets into some math, which is 277 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,500 just astounding. I'm not a climate scientist, nor is he 278 00:14:59,500 --> 00:14:59,920 remember. 279 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Unknown: What I'm telling you right now, what we're looking at 280 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,400 right now in the last week, what we're preparing for Milton. This 281 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,520 is what we are now facing with global average temperatures a 282 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,640 little over one degree Celsius higher than the pre Industrial 283 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Average. Okay, one that's one 1% imagine what it will look like 284 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,460 when we reach two degrees, twice as bad. Oh, so 285 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:20,060 Adam Curry: if it's two degrees, then it'll be twice as bad, or 286 00:15:20,060 --> 00:15:23,660 Unknown: three or four, that is the world. It'll be 287 00:15:23,660 --> 00:15:25,220 Adam Curry: four times as bad if 288 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,600 John C Dvorak: it was. So let's see it goes from, let's say, one 289 00:15:29,780 --> 00:15:33,140 degree higher, which would be a percent. What a point? If 5% 290 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,140 some small percentage, but somehow it's going to be twice 291 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,740 as bad. It's 292 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:39,140 Adam Curry: going to double. And if it's three degrees, work 293 00:15:39,140 --> 00:15:43,120 exactly, exactly. It's fake news, or three 294 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:47,020 Unknown: or four. That is the world Donald Trump would push, 295 00:15:47,020 --> 00:15:53,080 not that he cares. He thinks it would be good for real estate 296 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:53,680 values. 297 00:15:53,740 --> 00:15:57,520 When I hear these people talking about global warming, that's the 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,980 global warming you have to worry about, not that the ocean is 299 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:03,180 going to rise in 400 years, an eighth of an inch, and you'll 300 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:06,120 have more seafront property, right? If that happens, I said, 301 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:10,080 is that good or bad? I said, Isn't that a good thing? If I 302 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit more 303 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,880 property. I have a little bit more ocean. Okay, 304 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,180 every time we play this clip, we just got to stop for one second. 305 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:20,960 Think about that for give it 10 seconds of your brain power. 306 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,340 Okay, if the oceans rise, do you have more beachfront property? 307 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,420 Does that make sense? The oceans rise? Do more beachfront or let 308 00:16:29,420 --> 00:16:29,900 you have less? 309 00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:34,820 Adam Curry: You said more ocean. Anyway, that so at least we know 310 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:38,120 it's all Donald Trump's fault in Donald Trump's and I will play 311 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,620 this last clip, and then we'll, we'll play your clips, and then 312 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:44,020 I'll come back to some of the conspiracy theories. And this 313 00:16:44,020 --> 00:16:46,120 is, this has got to be my favorites. Now, 314 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Unknown: we've known for decades our planet is warming, that we 315 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,680 would start seeing the brutal effects, but conservatives 316 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,320 running so deep in their denial, they're flailing around for 317 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,080 anyone or anything else to blame. Republican Congressman 318 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,900 Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is now like a big mover and shaker 319 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:03,660 in the Republican Party, is promoting a bizarre conspiracy 320 00:17:03,660 --> 00:17:07,140 theory about a mysterious day. You can imagine who that is. 321 00:17:07,140 --> 00:17:09,780 Adam Curry: So on the screen they have her tweet which says, 322 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,540 yes, they can control the weather. The weather always 323 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:16,680 remember that. So that's what she said. And I think we can 324 00:17:16,860 --> 00:17:21,020 prove that that is probably true, not that this was the 325 00:17:21,020 --> 00:17:23,000 case, but that's the tweet 326 00:17:23,060 --> 00:17:25,340 Unknown: controlling the weather, suggesting that they 327 00:17:25,340 --> 00:17:28,580 are sending hurricanes to Republican areas to impact the 328 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:30,740 election, like someone is sitting at some computer 329 00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:34,220 somewhere pressing hurricane. It's not just her. She's now 330 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:37,580 being amplified by right wing media and the Republican nominee 331 00:17:37,580 --> 00:17:41,500 himself, Chris, Chris decaf has the government figured out how 332 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,900 to build a storm into a super storm 333 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,340 that will destroy everything that's 334 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:47,620 passed, and then how to aim it. Right now, he's 335 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:50,800 Adam Curry: just playing some rando guys from I don't know, 336 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,640 YouTube or whatever, who are just talking crap where they 337 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,060 Unknown: want to aim it. It just happens to miss South Florida 338 00:17:58,420 --> 00:18:00,660 while the Democrats live. Something 339 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,460 strange is going on. These 340 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,420 are Trump 341 00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:04,140 counties. 342 00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:06,360 John C Dvorak: Some actors to do stuff like, this 343 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,080 Adam Curry: is great. This 344 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,920 John C Dvorak: is great. 345 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,580 Unknown: Something strange is going on. These are Trump 346 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:14,100 John C Dvorak: counties. And don't tell me for a second. 347 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,980 Don't tell me for a second that what we're not seeing is a 348 00:18:16,980 --> 00:18:20,580 massive government push, voter suppression 349 00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:21,200 Unknown: operation. 350 00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:24,920 You know, it's largely a Republican area. Some people say 351 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,680 they did it for that reason. I don't even think they're that 352 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,780 bad, but they probably made random, 353 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:34,940 Adam Curry: random clip, random clip, making it sound like Trump 354 00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:38,480 is talking about some weather modification, which is not they 355 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:38,780 are. 356 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Unknown: They say they're sending the storms they are 357 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,080 sending the storms. Tom Trump's running mate, Janie Vance, found 358 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,300 a way to get in on it too. Blaming it on immigrants, 359 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:49,960 you have FEMA, which is there for disaster relief for American 360 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,680 citizens after a terrible storm being deployed repeatedly to 361 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,980 deal with Kamala Harris' wide open border and the migrant 362 00:18:56,980 --> 00:19:00,160 invasion that it's caused. That lack of focus on their core 363 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,300 mission, that distraction and focusing instead on illegal 364 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:06,840 immigrants, I guarantee that it has made the disaster response 365 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,320 worse. 366 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Adam Curry: All right, so I want to come back to those weight 367 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,440 theories. 368 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,340 John C Dvorak: What did he did? He was that played on his show. 369 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:16,200 Adam Curry: That was van, that last 370 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,280 John C Dvorak: part of the tip, yeah, 371 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,180 Unknown: he played that. 372 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:20,780 That's dumb. 373 00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:24,800 John C Dvorak: I'm saying that because he's trying to build a 374 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,660 case, and then he throws something out there which 375 00:19:26,660 --> 00:19:30,860 actually is reasonable, yes, and if I'm listening to so that's 376 00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:33,800 interesting. I mean that this is, these guys don't even know 377 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,720 how to do this, right? All right. So 378 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,360 Adam Curry: I want to come back to the weather modification and 379 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,260 conspiracy theories, but first, let's get into your clips before 380 00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:42,040 we drift. Yeah, let's 381 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,840 John C Dvorak: get these out of the way. Yeah. This is a, this 382 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,440 is a series that's on NPR. This is part of a long presentation 383 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,220 on hurricane overview, and it brings in everything we need 384 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,240 that. It starts with Hurricane overview, N O, A, A, 385 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:58,240 Unknown: the damage hurricane Milton could cause is chilling, 386 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:00,720 but maybe it shouldn't be surprising. Julie 387 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,980 is looking to be an extraordinary one in a number of 388 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:05,760 ways. That 389 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,420 was Rick spinrad, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric 390 00:20:09,420 --> 00:20:12,660 Administration, last May, rolling out the federal agency's 391 00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:14,460 annual hurricane outlook, NOAA 392 00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:19,320 is predicting an above average 2024 Atlantic hurricane season. 393 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,620 Of note, the forecast for named storms, hurricanes and major 394 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:28,940 hurricanes, is the highest NOAA has ever issued for the May 395 00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:30,200 outlook. One 396 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,140 big reason for that record breaking hurricane forecast, 397 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,560 record breaking hot water temperatures in the Atlantic 398 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,540 Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico. Now, the number of hurricanes 399 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:44,200 this year has not yet broken records, but the intensity of 400 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,480 some of the storms has been breathtaking. 401 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,720 It's just an incredible, incredible, incredible 402 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,320 hurricane. 403 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Adam Curry: Incredible, incredible, really, that sounded 404 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,020 like a Dvorak repeats. No sweetening. Oh, interesting. 405 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,640 John C Dvorak: All right, he said that. All right. So that 406 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,880 goes on. This is like they're trying to build a case for. What 407 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,760 do you think you're going to build a case for? And it comes 408 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,580 up right away. I did early in the clippage 409 00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:15,240 Unknown: that hot water in the Gulf allows storms to intensify 410 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,840 at unbelievable speeds, as Hurricane Milton did on Monday 411 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,280 afternoon. A fact that Move Veteran Florida meteorologist 412 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,080 John Morales nearly to tears, 413 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:32,600 he has dropped 50 millibars in 10 hours. I apologize, this is 414 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,200 just 415 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:36,260 horrific. Later in 416 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:39,980 that same report, Morales cited those hot ocean temperatures and 417 00:21:39,980 --> 00:21:41,440 explained where they came from. 418 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,260 You know, what's driving that? I don't need to tell you, global 419 00:21:44,260 --> 00:21:47,800 warming, climate change leading to this and becoming an 420 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,600 increasing threat. You know, 421 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Adam Curry: it's interesting. You know, Tina lived in Florida 422 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,540 for 15 years, lived through a number of hurricanes. And I 423 00:21:55,540 --> 00:22:00,480 said, was the millibar? Was the pressure ever an issue? Says, I 424 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,640 don't know anything about that. No one ever talked about 425 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,840 millibars. It's always been the wind speed. This seems to be a 426 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,280 new metric they're pulling in. 427 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,260 John C Dvorak: That's interesting. You're right, 428 00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:13,380 because I've noticed it before. Now I think what's interesting, 429 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,220 also interesting, I hate to overuse that word, but is this 430 00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:20,960 guy's in tears. He's obviously an emotional wreck. Probably 431 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,320 somebody shouldn't trust with any with your children or guns, 432 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:30,020 or guns, definitely no guns with that guy, red flag. And so you 433 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:34,820 so he so this is the guy that go goes right to climate change. So 434 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,700 he's an unstable person. Now he's going talking about climate 435 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:41,080 change. This is like, Okay, I'm not gonna even, I shouldn't even 436 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,740 be listening to this guy if he can't objectively report on the 437 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:46,720 news without crying about it. 438 00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:49,420 Adam Curry: Well, he was doing his job. He's an actor. 439 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Unknown: NPR climate editor Rachel waldholtz has been 440 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,720 looking into how a warming planet contributes to these 441 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,720 storms and what climate change could mean for the future of 442 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,460 catastrophic weather events. Hi Rachel, hi. Ari, first. Helene, 443 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:06,180 now Milton, are these two massive hurricanes in just about 444 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:10,320 two weeks, evidence that we are seeing more frequent storm 445 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,000 activity than in the past. So 446 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,500 actually, no, no, 447 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:15,420 Adam Curry: no, you better come up with something better than 448 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:17,100 that. So 449 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,040 John C Dvorak: that's why I wanted to mention call back to 450 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,400 Chris Hayes saying they're more frequent. Yeah, 451 00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:23,540 Adam Curry: he's full of crap. 452 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,480 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's totally full of crap. 453 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,820 Adam Curry: The numbers are there. Everyone can see the 454 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:31,880 numbers. There's just been less of them certainly this year. 455 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:35,120 John C Dvorak: So let's go. Okay, so onward to four. 456 00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:37,400 Unknown: We haven't seen an increase in the number of 457 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,620 hurricanes hitting the US, but climate change is making many 458 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:45,400 storms more intense, so more powerful with way more rain, 459 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,940 more dangerous storm surge, more flooding. And so while the total 460 00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:52,840 number of hurricanes isn't increasing, dangerous storms are 461 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,960 becoming more common, and that can definitely make it feel like 462 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,100 we're getting more overall. So 463 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,800 let's get to the climate change piece of this. We know that a 464 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,020 warming planet and includes warming oceans. Explain why 465 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,820 warming oceans helped a storm like Milton explode into a 466 00:24:08,820 --> 00:24:12,420 category five as it moved across the Gulf before eventually 467 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:13,320 weakening. Yeah, 468 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,940 Adam Curry: yes, exploded before it actually got to landfall, and 469 00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:19,440 it was a three actually crapped 470 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,480 John C Dvorak: out. Yeah, it did. 471 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,200 Adam Curry: It did 472 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,760 John C Dvorak: so. So we have this, this narrative going on, 473 00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:31,760 and it's like, right in the middle of it, you have to do a 474 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,220 call back to climate isn't weather? Yes, correct. They 475 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:41,000 pounded it into us. Climate isn't weather, or weather is 476 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,380 weather 477 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:43,840 Adam Curry: isn't climate, I think was the exact phrase. 478 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,580 John C Dvorak: Either one, yes, it's the same thing. But the 479 00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:51,100 point is, is that they'd always bring that out when it was 480 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:54,220 freezing cold. We had this, you know, yeah, yeah, it was really 481 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:56,800 cold. No, no, no, no. It's got nothing to do with it. But now 482 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,920 there's a little disaster going on. Yes, exactly. Oh, it's a. 483 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,800 This is what's causing it. Okay? So, so they go on with a before 484 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:08,760 the five they go on this. I put the word skip in there because I 485 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,340 skipped over a whole long lecture about how the hot water 486 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:18,900 boy pushes up into the hurricane and goes on and on and on about 487 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:22,220 this. And so did we end up with this after, after listening to 488 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:24,620 that for five minutes, we go to this. Okay, 489 00:25:24,620 --> 00:25:27,080 Unknown: so warm oceans translate to stronger storms. 490 00:25:27,140 --> 00:25:30,080 But there's another element here, which is that climate 491 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,240 change adds to sea level rise, which can create a bigger storm 492 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,700 surge, right? Explain that? Yeah, 493 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:40,780 so climate change is driving rising sea levels, and some of 494 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:44,020 the fastest rates of sea level rise in the world actually are 495 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:48,220 along the Gulf Coast. So that's driven by melting ice on land, 496 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:50,800 like the Greenland ice sheet, but also as water. 497 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:57,280 Adam Curry: So let me understand so the ice sheet is melting, and 498 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,600 therefore the water in the Gulf gets warmer. In the Gulf, in the 499 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,140 Gulf gets warmer from the melting ice goes up. 500 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,160 John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course it 501 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,980 Unknown: does. That's driven by melting ice on land like the 502 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:10,980 Greenland ice sheet. But the thing she said, got warmer. Let 503 00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:14,160 me see driving rising sea levels. And some of the fastest 504 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,100 rates of sea level rise in the world actually are along the 505 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:17,880 Gulf Coast. 506 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,540 Adam Curry: I can't believe I'm not how come I don't have 507 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:23,900 beachfront property here in the heart of Texas. I should. So 508 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,480 Unknown: that's driven by melting ice on land like the 509 00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:29,900 Greenland ice sheet. But also, as water gets warmer, it 510 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:33,560 expands. So then when a storm like Milton comes along, driving 511 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,800 this huge wall of water in front of it, and water levels are 512 00:26:36,860 --> 00:26:40,160 already higher than they used to be, that's a recipe for really 513 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,580 catastrophic storm surge. And right now we're seeing 514 00:26:42,580 --> 00:26:45,580 predictions of 15 feet of storm surge in some places. 515 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:48,400 Adam Curry: I don't think it reaches. Doesn't water expand 516 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,480 John C Dvorak: when you freeze it, yeah, yes, doesn't it? Yes, 517 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,260 yes. 518 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,420 Adam Curry: Why are you bringing logic to the show stop. Sorry. 519 00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,320 John C Dvorak: You know. 520 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,460 Adam Curry: So it turns out they've also, so not only have 521 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:07,200 they added this, this new metric of barometric pressure, and at 522 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,280 millibars, yes, in millibars, not, not inches, which is 523 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560 interesting, we do that in millibars, things because it 524 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:20,040 looks bigger in millibars, you know, instead of saying 29.9 so 525 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,000 millibars because then it's like, oh, it's 900 millibars. 526 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,840 There seems to also have been an interesting reshuffling of the 527 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,400 category with wind speeds. And I was unaware of this, but we do 528 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,460 have the best producers in the universe. So a category one 529 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:42,520 storm is wind speeds of 74 to 95 miles an hour. That's a 22 mile 530 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,580 per hour range. A category two storm, however, is 96 to 110 531 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:55,780 miles per hour. That's a 15 mile per hour range. Why? Why? I 532 00:27:55,780 --> 00:27:58,960 don't understand why. Then we have category three, which we 533 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960 call a major storm, is 111 534 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:03,300 John C Dvorak: I'm asking questions 535 00:28:04,740 --> 00:28:10,860 Adam Curry: exactly which is a 111 to 129 mile per hour? That's 536 00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:16,260 a 19 mile per hour range. And then category four. Now this is 537 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:22,640 the interesting a category four is anywhere from 130 to 156 so 538 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:29,660 now all of a sudden, that's a 27 mile per hour range. So it seems 539 00:28:29,660 --> 00:28:32,960 like they're driving everything into at least a cat four, and 540 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:39,320 then a cat five is anything over 157 so this is a reminds me a 541 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,600 little bit of the of the changes they made to the Richter scale 542 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,660 and became the momentum scale for earthquakes, whatever 543 00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:47,380 John C Dvorak: it is now, you 544 00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:51,820 Adam Curry: know, whatever it is. So now we get into everybody 545 00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:55,060 spinning up and spinning out, including friends of mine, good 546 00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:58,960 friends of mine, like, oh, this was to disrupt the election, to 547 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,300 which I say, Okay, I love that, by the way, North Carolina blue, 548 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880 so, so that wasn't the intention. 549 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,660 John C Dvorak: Democrat governor. Yes, it's a blue 550 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:10,380 state. 551 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,020 Adam Curry: But then you do Florida, like, okay, so what are 552 00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:16,740 you really disrupting? We have an electoral college, you know. 553 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,360 So it's not going to make any difference, you know, if you do 554 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,940 it in Pennsylvania, and, 555 00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:24,200 John C Dvorak: yeah, that's George. 556 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,740 Adam Curry: Want to do it? Yeah, that's just Michigan. Steer it 557 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:29,900 that way. Blow 558 00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:31,040 John C Dvorak: up Michigan. 559 00:29:32,060 --> 00:29:35,060 Adam Curry: So I have to just spend a little bit on on these 560 00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:37,280 theories of weather modification, because there's, 561 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360 you know, you can look at it several different ways. French 562 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,160 24 dove right into it more 563 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Unknown: broadly. Do we know? Are there ways to try and 564 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200 mitigate the dangers of hurricanes? Well, actually, 565 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,560 scientists 566 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,380 have long searched for a way to at least attenuate or even 567 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:52,900 prevent the formation of hurricanes, or at least to try 568 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:55,840 to change their track. It started after World War Two with 569 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,920 the project Cyrus, that was financed by GE but also the US. 570 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,780 Army. And what they did is that they projected dry ice straight 571 00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:05,820 into the hurricane, thinking that, by 572 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:08,580 Adam Curry: the way, is very irritating. But in in France, 573 00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:11,280 they don't say hurricane. They say hurricane. For some reason, 574 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,120 hurricane, it 575 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Unknown: was going to modify the cloud envelope and change the 576 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,500 structure of the hurricane. And they did, you know, observe 577 00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,340 somewhat, somewhat of some changes in the appearance of the 578 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:25,820 hurricane, but they couldn't establish a very strong causal 579 00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:28,220 effect. So then there was another project that was a 580 00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:30,680 little bit more known, called the storm fury project. It 581 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440 lasted for 20 years. It was funded by the US government. And 582 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,140 here they did what we call cloud seeding. So here they dumped 583 00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:40,660 what we call silver iodide, so these are salt crystals, and 584 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:43,000 once again, thinking that it would modify the structure to 585 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,960 increase the condensation and change the hurricane from 586 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,680 within. And they used it on several hurricanes in the 60s. 587 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Esther Bulla, Debbie ginger, at first, the results were 588 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,280 encouraging, but then they stopped once again, because 589 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,480 there wasn't a strong causal effect. They couldn't say that 590 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,200 the these silver crystals were really the reason why the 591 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720 hurricane had changed trajectory or intensity. And 592 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,360 there's another idea as well, Julia, this was a really, really 593 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,040 rather creepy one. And this is dropping an atomic bomb to blow 594 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,280 out in inverted commas, a newly formed hurricane. Tell us about 595 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,420 this? Well, exactly. 596 00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:21,020 Thank God they didn't use it. Of course, this would have produced 597 00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:23,120 radioactive fallout in a big way, and, of course, 598 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,880 environmental issues, but they did consider it okay. 599 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,460 Adam Curry: So there's been lots of experiments, so it's no 600 00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:31,040 wonder that people discuss these things. And one of those 601 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,760 experiments actually veered the hurricane, often in a wrong 602 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,240 direction. People got very angry at the government. Now it 603 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560 doesn't help that Lyndon Johnson, President Lyndon 604 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,740 Johnson was quite jitty about the whole concept, 605 00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:48,280 Unknown: the foundation for the development of a weather 606 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,820 satellite 607 00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:54,160 that will permit man to determine the world's 608 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,800 cloud labor and 609 00:31:59,020 --> 00:32:01,560 ultimately to control the 610 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,360 weather, and he who controls 611 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,160 John C Dvorak: the weather will control the world. Yeah, He who 612 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680 controls the weather to bring back classic. It's a classic. 613 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,600 And you, you know, you listen to the commentators, nobody. What 614 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,320 you're doing right now is should have been done by every by Fox, 615 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,160 for example. You were more interested in using the word 616 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,660 triage instead of 617 00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:28,220 Adam Curry: prioritizing. And it also doesn't help that CIA 618 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:33,200 Director John O Brennan also kind of alluded to this, as 619 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,600 Unknown: promising as it may be, moving forward on essay 620 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,460 Adam Curry: he's going to talk about stratospheric. S was it s 621 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,760 Sai, Stratos, Stratospheric Aerosol injection, promising 622 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,700 Unknown: as it may be, moving forward on sai would also raise 623 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,920 a number of challenges for our government and for the 624 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,520 international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas 625 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,180 emission reductions would still have to accompany sai to address 626 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:01,980 other climate change effects such as ocean acidification, 627 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,460 because sai alone would not remove greenhouse gasses from 628 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:09,060 the atmosphere. On the geopolitical side, the 629 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:13,080 technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit 630 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,500 certain regions of the world at the expense of other regions 631 00:33:16,740 --> 00:33:21,080 could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might 632 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,800 seize on sai benefits and back away from their commitment to 633 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,340 carbon dioxide reductions, and as with other breakthrough 634 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,580 technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide 635 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:35,060 the deployment and implementation of Sai and other 636 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:40,120 geoengineering initiatives. I could go on and on and on and on 637 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,940 about the things that fascinate me? Yeah, 638 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:44,920 Adam Curry: of course it fascinates him, because weather 639 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,280 modification, you can rule the world. So this is where these 640 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,660 conspiracies come from. And we have a we have a 641 00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:56,320 John C Dvorak: just to defend Marjorie Taylor Greene, she 642 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,700 didn't say anything wrong. 643 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,420 Adam Curry: She didn't it was a very short tweet, and I think 644 00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:04,500 she was spot on. It's inflammatory, you know, it's, 645 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,120 it's what Marjorie Taylor, 646 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,660 John C Dvorak: that's what she does. That's what 647 00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:12,720 Adam Curry: she does. We have job. We have a knight who is 648 00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:17,160 very high up in and he wants to remain anonymous, I have to say 649 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,280 carefully, in one of the larger American weather modification 650 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,440 associations. And so he has a lot of background. I checked him 651 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:34,460 out, so I can't, I can't talk about him per se. But he says, 652 00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:40,360 look, look. He said, There is no evidence that there was any 653 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,800 weather modification done in these two instances, I'm just 654 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,860 going to take him at his word, and that's sure he's correct, 655 00:34:47,860 --> 00:34:51,580 and yes, and he checks out, and I can't believe that they don't 656 00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:56,200 have someone like him on Fox and Friends. No. Instead, we have to 657 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,780 deal with insane things, and whenever. Where I get an eight 658 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:05,160 second clip, I'm like, wait a minute, and even just listening 659 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,520 to this clip, because it was only audio, I knew right away 660 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,240 that this was not the director of FEMA. We 661 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,820 Unknown: plan to execute between 70 and 80 we plan to evacuate 662 00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:19,620 between 70 and 80,000 people. 663 00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:22,940 Adam Curry: So first of all, I think the director of FEMA, or 664 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:27,440 the administrator is a woman. So this is a black guy. It's Lloyd 665 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,880 Austin from 2021 and I remember this because somebody sent you 666 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,860 this clip. Oh, it's all over. You got the girls going like, 667 00:35:36,860 --> 00:35:40,220 oh, is this the truth? Wanting to come out? Oh, yeah, there's 668 00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:42,760 Unknown: exceeded all expectations. Yeah, that's 669 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,440 Lloyd, Austin. It's Austin. We plan to execute between 70 and 670 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,820 80. We plan to evacuate between 70 and 80,000 people. 671 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Adam Curry: So it's like, oh, okay, please. This is a very old 672 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,900 clip, and it goes around and people like, they're going to 673 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,460 execute people the other, the other one that really got me, 674 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:07,680 yeah, the one that really got, I think is fabulous, is now this, 675 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,100 this was people were getting mad at me about this, because I was, 676 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:12,600 look, I have experience, 677 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,160 John C Dvorak: and if you're gonna get mad, they should get 678 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,720 mad at you, yes, oh, they never 679 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:22,040 Adam Curry: get mad at you. They should. You need to exalt the 680 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,860 older men? Yes. So this is a clip of North Carolina, and it 681 00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:32,300 only had titles over it, and it had this really ominous music. 682 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,860 I'll play it with a Blackhawk helicopter, and it would say, 683 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:40,180 Oh, look at them. It's unmarked. They're coming over here. 684 00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:47,080 They're rotor washing us. And so I get emails from people I 685 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,080 learned a new term, rotor washing. Look at what they're 686 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,040 doing to us. They're rotor washing us. And I'm like, Okay, 687 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,200 it looks to me, just from a pilot perspective. And I have a 688 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,520 lot of hours. I have more hours on helicopter than fixed wing, 689 00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:07,440 including a Chinook one hour. But okay, so Chinook, and I said 690 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,580 the Blackhawk is very powerful. Around 53 feet is when you're 691 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:14,760 gonna start blowing stuff away on the ground. It looks to me 692 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,120 like they're coming in to figure out where they can land, and 693 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,100 then you decide to take off. And yeah, your tents are gonna fly 694 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,700 away, and your boxes are gonna, you know, move around on the 695 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:29,120 ground. But if they were really rotor washing you, which I have 696 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,780 done, I have rotor washed a sailboat in Holland. It was fun. 697 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,260 The guys loved it. There was there on the lake, and we came 698 00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:38,720 out on purpose, yeah, but they wanted it because we were 699 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,020 helping that we were giving him speed, and they thought it was 700 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:44,440 hilarious, so we were blowing their sail. And so I know you 701 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,600 have to come down a lot, especially with that, you know, 702 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:51,760 53 feet is about where, where it's at. And so now we get the 703 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,660 story was North Carolina National Guard. They were 704 00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:59,020 looking, they actually thought they could land. And Well, 705 00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:00,240 here's the story, the North 706 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,820 Unknown: Carolina National Guard is investigating an accident or 707 00:38:02,820 --> 00:38:05,160 an incident, I should say, of one of its helicopters at a 708 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,900 Helene Donation Center. Viewer 709 00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,420 shared this video of the chopper coming too close to a 710 00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:12,540 distribution site in Burnsville. The National Guard says this 711 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,540 happened as the pilot tried to land and deliver generators. The 712 00:38:15,540 --> 00:38:18,300 National Guard says on approach, the crew noticed that there were 713 00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:20,840 too many people tents and supplies close the landing 714 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,200 supply. So the helicopter took back off. They also admit they 715 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,960 did not get clearance to land from local law enforcement 716 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,380 station. 717 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:31,100 Safety is our number one Paramount with our forces that 718 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,220 we have on the ground. And so we are again continuing to 719 00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:38,180 investigate that we do have some communication with the landing 720 00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:41,440 sites and the people that we are going to take commodities to 721 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,800 it's matured over time. Initially we had no 722 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,760 communication, so we were just making a call and landing but 723 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,420 now the landing sites have been more mature, and we do have 724 00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:54,940 communication with emergency personnel that are on the 725 00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:55,240 ground. 726 00:38:56,260 --> 00:38:59,320 Major General Todd hunt said he is very sorry for the incident. 727 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,740 He says the crew is grounded for now, and they're working with 728 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:05,160 the organization to identify how much damage the crew caused. 729 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:09,300 Adam Curry: So, oh, so, of course, you know this was not, I 730 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:13,740 mean, the implication this is because there's so little trust, 731 00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:17,640 or maybe just massive distrust in our government at the moment 732 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,740 that people jump to this conclusion that they're trying 733 00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:26,000 to purposely hurt them. I just don't think that was the case 734 00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:31,940 and but the programming was so strong when I even said, Hey, I 735 00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:34,460 don't think that's, I don't think this is their purposely 736 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:37,580 rotor washing. Because if you really purposely want to rotor 737 00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:41,620 wash, people would be flying around on the ground. You know 738 00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:43,600 this, this was they're trying to, they're trying to do 739 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,680 reconnaissance. Can we land here? They fly away and but 740 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,780 people are so spun up. Because, for sure, the reliance on the 741 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:56,620 government has been so built up we talked about in the last 742 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:59,440 show, so built up by people. Oh, the government's going to come 743 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,040 and save me. And what's happening in western North 744 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,760 Carolina. It's horrible. I mean, we're not getting and of course, 745 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,880 all of that news is going to be pushed to the back burner. We're 746 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,820 only going to be talking about Florida right now. It's all 747 00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:15,060 minimal because, oh, god forbid we make anybody look good, 748 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,380 because you can't. The government is not set up to be 749 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,300 the knights in shining armor. They're not set up to save you. 750 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,980 They're not they talk a big game, just like Kamala is going 751 00:40:27,980 --> 00:40:32,300 to save you with, I don't know, building houses. And they just 752 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:37,100 talk, the sooner we realize that that's not the way it is, the 753 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:41,200 better it is. And we're just in this horrible, I don't know, 80 754 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,760 or 100 year cycle. Well, you know, we had Sir Mark and Dame 755 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,560 Astrid here, Sunday and Monday. Fantastic. We had a great time. 756 00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:57,820 And Sir Mark was telling us how he went to the Fukushima, you 757 00:40:57,820 --> 00:41:01,080 know, just check stuff out the little tour up there. And they 758 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,220 went to this hilltop, and there were three monuments, and he 759 00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:08,580 says, Oh, is this the monument for Fukushima? And the Japanese 760 00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:11,700 guide there said, oh, yeah, we do it for every time it happens. 761 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:14,820 This happens every 100 years. So this is from 100 years ago. This 762 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:18,240 from 200 years ago. See, we didn't, we don't hear all that, 763 00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:23,780 but that's Mother Earth wins every single time. So you know, 764 00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:28,640 to throw in climate change and all of this nonsense. It's, it's 765 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,660 dishonest, and it's, it's just programming weak minded brothers 766 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:35,840 and sisters into believing it and going along with the program 767 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,080 and eating bugs, and it makes everybody else crazy and mad, 768 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,240 because they're, doing it. They're doing they're doing it 769 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:48,460 to screw the elections. No, it's just life Trump's fault. Yeah, 770 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,600 it's for, well, of course, it's all Trump's fault. The same, by 771 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,800 the way, goes for the and Trump is out there. He's, he's talking 772 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,520 this thing up too, which is bull crap, this Kamala Harris 60 773 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,720 Minutes interview. What? They edited it. They took out all the 774 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:10,560 stupid stuff. Okay, yeah, 60 minutes. Chopped down their 775 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,580 interview to get it into, I don't know, 60 minutes. And yes, 776 00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:17,820 they chopped out all the fluff and the nonsense that she talks. 777 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:20,160 But they had put that. Let's 778 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,200 John C Dvorak: stop right there. That's what you do. Yes, 779 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,180 Adam Curry: that's what you do. With an interview 780 00:42:27,860 --> 00:42:31,760 John C Dvorak: I used to guy I knew, David Renson, who used to 781 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,040 write for Playboy. We were talking one day about how I met 782 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,920 him because they were going to do a piece of it involved me and 783 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,180 he's talked about the best interviews in the Playboy, 784 00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:50,740 interviews are extremely edited, because that otherwise you're 785 00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:53,140 going to bore people stiff. If you look at something like 786 00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:56,620 Interview magazine, when that was around, they would do Waldo. 787 00:42:56,620 --> 00:42:59,920 Their interviews are, were straight up, and it was a lot 788 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:05,580 of, well, the way I see it's like get it's like taking and 789 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:09,420 doing a transcription of Elon Musk, who's gonna read this 790 00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:10,020 crap. 791 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,960 Adam Curry: So when I, of course, you know, everyone had 792 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,860 the side by side, it's about 15 seconds longer the unedited bit, 793 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:22,340 and we can certainly play it. But the point is, it was CBS 794 00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:26,180 themselves who put the whole, the full answer Question and 795 00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:30,140 Answer out. It was on Face The Nation as a promo reel for the 796 00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:33,380 interview. Because then, when I saw this, like, Well, where did 797 00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:35,840 this come from? This tape. Was it leaked? Is there someone 798 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,200 within CBS? Because that's the implication, oh, we got the raw, 799 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,260 unreaded footage. They just put it out there. They was part of a 800 00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:49,060 promo for the whole 60 Minutes interview and and by the way, 801 00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:52,180 the whole thing is chopped up. You think that was you 802 00:43:52,180 --> 00:43:55,720 John C Dvorak: have to do that. That's what you do. You do this 803 00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:00,300 is an entertainment at some level. You don't bore people 804 00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:04,680 stiff with the real deal, because no one's going to follow 805 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,520 it. They're going to go nuts. Yes, she's a hopeless case. 806 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,600 She's dumb. 807 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,920 Adam Curry: Yeah, she is. She and if anything is a 808 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,440 John C Dvorak: dumb person, you can see it in her eyes. 809 00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:20,720 Adam Curry: I have actually have a backgrounder here, because she 810 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,420 went on this, yeah, here, this France 24 again, but they had a 811 00:44:23,420 --> 00:44:25,280 good little summary of her media blitz. 812 00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:28,340 Unknown: We asked ahead of time. With just four weeks to go, it's 813 00:44:28,340 --> 00:44:32,120 her last chance for voters to get to know her better, cracking 814 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,300 open a can of lager on Stephen Colbert's talk show, Vice 815 00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:38,480 President Harris continued her week long, high profile media 816 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,760 blitz. Howard Stern's radio show, whose listenership skews 817 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,000 white and male. She took a mix of more hardline questions on 818 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,520 policy, but also showed her personality. Sis. 819 00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:51,340 Listen, I've been the first and first woman in almost every 820 00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:57,160 position I've had. Yeah. So I believe that men and women 821 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,080 support women in leadership, and that's been. My life experience, 822 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,180 and that's why I'm running for president, and that's 823 00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:05,700 in a bid to reach every demographic. Four string of 824 00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:09,000 appearances has included non traditional outlets like the 825 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,540 call her daddy podcast, a Gen Z millennial fan favorite with 826 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,300 biggest female listenership body. 827 00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:18,720 Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping 828 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,680 her humble. How did that make you feel? 829 00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:26,480 I don't think she understands that there are a whole lot of 830 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,860 women out here who one are not aspiring to be humble. 831 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,700 However, critics have argued that Harris is still introducing 832 00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:37,520 herself this close to the election, and accuse her of 833 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,780 being unable to align herself from Joe Biden's administration. 834 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,380 Would you have done something differently than President Biden 835 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,820 during the past four years? 836 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,680 There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've 837 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,360 been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. 838 00:45:56,020 --> 00:45:56,920 Look Bill Paris 839 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,040 eventually clarified that, unlike Biden, she plans to put a 840 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,960 Republican in her cabinet, with seven battleground states up for 841 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,680 grabs, and polls continuing to show a tight race, the interview 842 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,800 burst is intended to hit a large portion of the media spectrum 843 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,160 and dispel criticism about her infrequent engagement with the 844 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,900 mainstream media. All right, so 845 00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:18,060 Adam Curry: I've looked at all of it. I looked at the 60 846 00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:22,580 minutes. I looked at the view all of call her daddy boy. That 847 00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:26,360 was that was bored me to tears. It was, I mean, no, it was 848 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,780 terrible. One blow job question. It was so boring. And 849 00:46:29,780 --> 00:46:31,580 John C Dvorak: that's the thing that I mentioned in the 850 00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:37,640 newsletter, and I just want to reiterate it, yes, uh, Alexandra 851 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,640 Cooper, Alex, Alex, who split off from Sophia with an F Sophia 852 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,840 Franklin, because they used to be partners, and then they split 853 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,240 off, and Alexandra got a potload of money because she was she 854 00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:57,400 played her cards right, and her and I've listened to her podcast 855 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,040 now and again, trying to get some clips from it. Never been 856 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,920 able to, all she does is talk about blow jobs. She is 857 00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:09,300 preoccupied with blow jobs. Yes, yes. And so it's like, and 858 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:11,760 she'll go on and on and on about it with people. I don't think a 859 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,780 lot of people want to talk about it and but she talks about and 860 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:18,840 talks about and so it so she doesn't talk about it with 861 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,300 Camelot. But as I mentioned the newsletter, there's a very 862 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:26,480 interesting irony here that, because I don't think cameras 863 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,240 people knew anything about this podcast, they just knew it was 864 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:35,480 big. Is second to Rogan at Spotify, supposedly, and so it's 865 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,360 a monster podcast that has a big audience, and that's all they 866 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,600 knew. It's this is like media buyers. They don't know what 867 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,960 they're doing, and so they put her on there. And the irony of 868 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:50,020 her being on a blow basically a blow job podcast, did not elude 869 00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:51,880 a lot of people, including me. 870 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,640 Adam Curry: So here's my conclusion, besides her word 871 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:05,160 salad and saying nothing, which is okay, if you gave me 10 women 872 00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:09,180 and put them in a lineup and said, Okay, you're casting for 873 00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:14,280 president, she would be last. There is nothing about her at 874 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,900 all that has anything presidential. She has dead eyes. 875 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:23,780 She has when she talks, She frowns when she talks, which is 876 00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:30,140 very off putting she has a bit of that vocal fry America 877 00:48:30,260 --> 00:48:32,840 John C Dvorak: a wine, a Berkeley wine, Berkeley 878 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,320 Adam Curry: wine. We 879 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,700 John C Dvorak: choose a Berkeley wine. We 880 00:48:34,940 --> 00:48:38,000 Adam Curry: choose our presidents like we choose our 881 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,000 breakfast cereal. And this is not what Americans go for. I 882 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,080 don't understand why the Republicans and conservatives in 883 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:52,540 our country are so spun up about it. She's not going to be 884 00:48:52,540 --> 00:48:56,920 elected. Now, can they cheat? I even doubt that you can't cheat 885 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,880 enough. Yeah, too big to rig. She is really unappealing, just 886 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,700 unappeal She is. She's unappealing, which is the whole 887 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:10,260 reason why she had 1% when she was running for president, she 888 00:49:10,260 --> 00:49:13,920 had to drop out. It was so embarrassing, because no one 889 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,400 likes her. She's unlikable. And I'm saying this from a 890 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,200 television producer perspective. You 891 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,840 John C Dvorak: can say from any perspective you want. I think if 892 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,620 you talk to a lot of women don't like or, I mean, the only people 893 00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:30,440 that like or don't have never seen her do anything, they're 894 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,480 just voting Democrat. Huge number of people out there, 895 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,300 Adam Curry: yeah, sure, huge number, yes, but those are the 896 00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:40,640 ones who aren't hurting in the pocketbook. 897 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,560 John C Dvorak: Might be, but they just vote Democrat. There 898 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,200 are people that vote Democrat. There are people that vote 899 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,140 Republican, and there's a big range of people that actually 900 00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:54,100 take a look at Yeah, and they decide late, I do 901 00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:57,220 Adam Curry: want to play just two clips from the 60 Minutes 902 00:49:57,220 --> 00:50:01,560 interview, just to put some content and. A to this segment 903 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,620 where we just slag women off based upon their parents. 904 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,420 John C Dvorak: That's what you did. I didn't do it. You're 905 00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:09,780 guilty 906 00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:14,220 Adam Curry: by association. Here she is, and there's a lot of 907 00:50:14,580 --> 00:50:18,780 hey, hey, you know, if you don't mind me, excuse me. I'm talking. 908 00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:21,320 Let me. Let me finish. That 909 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,520 John C Dvorak: does not work. 910 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,360 Adam Curry: No, it's very it's not good at all. This is about 911 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,500 the border. Was 912 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:32,780 Unknown: it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies? As 913 00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:33,800 much as you dig. 914 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,720 It's a long standing edit, 915 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,720 Adam Curry: by the way, edit I can just you can tell where all 916 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,800 the edits are. This thing was completely chopped up, not just 917 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,240 this one bit immigration 918 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,200 Unknown: policies, 919 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:50,140 as much as you did. It's a long standing problem, and solutions 920 00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:55,000 are at hand, and from day one, literally, we have been offering 921 00:50:55,060 --> 00:50:56,020 solutions. 922 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,320 What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that 923 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,540 flood to happen in the first place. I 924 00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:09,000 think the policies that we have been proposing are about fixing 925 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,420 a problem, not promoting a problem. Okay, but the numbers 926 00:51:12,420 --> 00:51:16,320 did quadruple, and the numbers today because of what we have 927 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,340 done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. We 928 00:51:22,340 --> 00:51:28,460 have to cut the flow of fentanyl by half, but we need Congress to 929 00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:31,640 be able to act to actually fix the 930 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,720 problem. Okay, so 931 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:36,380 Adam Curry: that's a very bad answer, very bad answer, and 932 00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:40,240 everybody knows it. And then the other one is about her flip 933 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,040 flopping on all of our policies. Let 934 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,160 Unknown: me tell you what your critics and the colonists say. 935 00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:48,640 Adam Curry: The columnist or the columnist, pay attention. 936 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,380 Unknown: We tell you what your critics and 937 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,020 John C Dvorak: hold that. Now I should mention what's kind of 938 00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:54,760 what, what 939 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,220 Adam Curry: columnist? Columnist, the columnist. Oh, I 940 00:51:57,220 --> 00:51:59,560 tell you the columnist. Oh, God, lordy. Let me 941 00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:02,760 Unknown: tell you what your critics and the columnists say? 942 00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:07,800 Okay, they say, the reason so many voters don't know you is 943 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,820 that you have changed your position on so many things. You 944 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:15,540 were against fracking. Now you're for it. You supported 945 00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:19,020 looser immigration policies. Now you're tightening them up. 946 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,440 You're for Medicare for all. Now you're not so many that people 947 00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:29,180 don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for, 948 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:30,380 and I know you've heard that. 949 00:52:30,860 --> 00:52:34,100 In the last four years, I have been vice president United 950 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,800 States, and I have been traveling our country, and I 951 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,560 have been listening to folks and seeking what is possible in 952 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,280 terms of common ground. I believe in building consensus. 953 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,060 We are diverse people, geographically, regionally, in 954 00:52:49,060 --> 00:52:53,200 terms of where we are in our backgrounds, and what the 955 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,740 American people do want is that we have leaders who can build 956 00:52:56,740 --> 00:53:01,020 consensus, where we can figure out compromise and understand 957 00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:04,800 it's not a bad thing, as long as you don't compromise your values 958 00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:10,500 to find common sense solutions, and that has been my approach. 959 00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:11,640 There 960 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,720 Adam Curry: was a whole article in Atlantic magazine because 961 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:21,740 they're so mad. They're so mad about Kamala and Trump going on 962 00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:25,820 podcasts and like, well, it's not real if you just want a 963 00:53:25,820 --> 00:53:31,700 softball personality in your head. Face it, mainstream media. 964 00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:37,760 Face it, M, 5m podcasts are taken over. Go sit behind the Go 965 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,500 ahead. Sit behind the the paywall. See how you do. 966 00:53:42,580 --> 00:53:45,340 John C Dvorak: I have a good, just an interrupting clip here 967 00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:51,520 about podcasts that was sent over by Steve. And where is this 968 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,580 thing? It's actually kind of fits right into what you're 969 00:53:54,580 --> 00:53:55,120 saying. 970 00:53:57,820 --> 00:53:58,720 Unknown: I'm looking, 971 00:53:58,780 --> 00:54:00,460 John C Dvorak: I'm looking too. 972 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,420 Adam Curry: Oh NPR, the candidates appear on podcasts. 973 00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:05,100 John C Dvorak: Yes, okay. Vice President 974 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,740 Unknown: and candidate Kamala Harris have been stepping up 975 00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:10,320 media appearances lately. She's been getting criticism that 976 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,140 she's not spending enough time in the public eye. Harris has 977 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:16,320 done traditional shows like 60 minutes and also hitting the 978 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,620 podcast circuit. Last week, she turned up on the podcast all the 979 00:54:19,620 --> 00:54:23,420 smoke, hosted by former NBA champ Stephen Jackson and Matt 980 00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:24,200 Barnes as 981 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,200 someone who's been the first in a lot of spaces you've been in, 982 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,320 a woman of color knocking on the door to possibly be the next 983 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,260 president. How do you protect your mental health and your 984 00:54:33,260 --> 00:54:34,100 mental space? 985 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,540 Number one rule, 986 00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:38,600 Adam Curry: John, how do you protect your mental space? 987 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,020 John C Dvorak: I really, I'm very mental space. Yes, 988 00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:43,360 Adam Curry: you protect your mental space. 989 00:54:44,140 --> 00:54:46,660 Unknown: You protect your mental health and your mental space. 990 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:51,880 Well, number one rule, don't read the comments. Fantastic. If 991 00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:52,180 you 992 00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:54,880 have a specific slice Sarah people that you want to reach, 993 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,220 there is a podcast for that. That's for sure. There's a lot 994 00:54:57,220 --> 00:54:59,740 of them, but when you and I are doing interviews, I mean, we 995 00:54:59,740 --> 00:55:02,040 have. Journalistic principles that we follow. So those 996 00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:03,720 podcasts follow any of that 997 00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:07,980 typically not. I mean, these are typically run by hosts who are 998 00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:11,280 influencers. Maybe they are former reality stars or former 999 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,360 athletes. They are not people who typically have journalistic 1000 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,880 training, although you'll see they prepare for interviews. 1001 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,420 Sometimes they'll reference sound bites. They'll try to make 1002 00:55:20,420 --> 00:55:23,600 sure that this interview feels very authoritative, but at the 1003 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,660 end of the day, the same type of journalistic standards and 1004 00:55:26,660 --> 00:55:29,780 scrutiny that you and I would pose on an interview don't exist 1005 00:55:29,780 --> 00:55:32,600 here. And so the reason why I think you're going to have 1006 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,020 pressure to do both types of environments, formal sit down 1007 00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:38,960 interview with a journalistic outlet like an NPR or, you know, 1008 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,040 in the case of last night 60 minutes. It's because voters 1009 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,800 want to know more about your actual platform, as opposed to, 1010 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,080 if you're sitting down with a podcaster, they're just getting 1011 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,280 to know a little bit more about 1012 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,200 Adam Curry: you personally. Oh, it's pretty much the same thing 1013 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,440 in the Atlantic, the same thing. Oh, there's no there's no 1014 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,060 journalistic integrity. They don't have producers and people 1015 00:55:58,060 --> 00:56:01,740 looking for stuff and digging through and there's no critical 1016 00:56:01,740 --> 00:56:06,240 questions. What a crock. Totally and I am, I will say 1017 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:11,400 John C Dvorak: that, by the way, I there's a lot of podcasts that 1018 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,580 have journalists involved with them. Yeah, I would say this is 1019 00:56:14,580 --> 00:56:18,960 one of them, but I don't like to brag about that, but the whole 1020 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,400 New York Times podcast is just journal is yakking about stuff, 1021 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,420 yes, 1022 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,380 Adam Curry: but of course, you know the really successful ones 1023 00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:30,440 where the money is, which we're not making with our integrity 1024 00:56:30,860 --> 00:56:36,680 and our journal and our J school diplomas like Joe Rogan. And I 1025 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:43,420 have to say, I find it peculiar that neither candidate has been 1026 00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:48,460 on Rogan I know why Trump, at least, I think I know why Trump 1027 00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:54,940 hasn't been on is because at least a while ago it was, you 1028 00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:57,040 know, Hey, you want to be on my show, you got to come to my 1029 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,800 studio. And Trump only does him at Mar a Lago. So I understand 1030 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,920 that there's, that's a I understand Joe like, come to my 1031 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:10,080 studio. I think Kamala should go. In fact, it would be I 1032 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:10,380 should 1033 00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:13,380 John C Dvorak: go on that show in a million years. If she did, 1034 00:57:13,380 --> 00:57:17,220 she I think those bookers that booked her on the call her daddy 1035 00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:20,780 show or idiots. I think they're smart enough to not put her on 1036 00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:24,680 Rogan, I have to. I'd be stunned if she ever showed up on Rogan. 1037 00:57:24,740 --> 00:57:25,100 I can 1038 00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,980 Adam Curry: predict, though, in the future election, we won't 1039 00:57:27,980 --> 00:57:30,920 make it to the next one because we only have four more years. 1040 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,300 But in four 1041 00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,520 John C Dvorak: more years in future, but the four more years 1042 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,320 could be perpetual. Oh, 1043 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:41,680 Adam Curry: okay, Dream on. So in four more years, I can see 1044 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,060 where an actual debate would take place in a very in a 1045 00:57:46,060 --> 00:57:52,900 podcast, just two candidates sitting down, arguing, yelling, 1046 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,080 getting into it, getting into it, 1047 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,920 John C Dvorak: more likely that a lazy podcaster would let them 1048 00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:04,140 go For because you sit back. I mean, if you do enough radio or 1049 00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:08,520 any of these free content, yeah, free content, you back off and 1050 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520 you just let them go for it, yelling at each other, because, 1051 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,260 you know people are going to tune in, and 1052 00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:16,200 Adam Curry: you don't need a moderator. There's no moderator 1053 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,620 John C Dvorak: just having me yell at each other. Yes, I would 1054 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,800 pack them in. Just 1055 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,160 Adam Curry: toss a question up. All right, let's border crisis 1056 00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:29,960 go. That's all he needs to do. In fact, I'm happy to facilitate 1057 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:37,520 that. So let me play two podcast clips from an NPR podcast. So 1058 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,400 this is kind of meta where the NPR politics podcast is talking 1059 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,840 about Kamala on the call her daddy podcast. It's meta, and 1060 00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:49,960 Unknown: today on the show, A Look at VICE PRESIDENT Harris's 1061 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,420 media strategy Harris is doing. Why 1062 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,060 Adam Curry: do they not get the good mics in the good studio for 1063 00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:58,300 NPR podcasts? What is this sound? I 1064 00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:00,040 John C Dvorak: think this is just the bad sound that I'm 1065 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,000 getting all the time, but you came through crummy. 1066 00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:07,080 Adam Curry: This is them. This is just how it sounds. It's bad. 1067 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:07,380 And 1068 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,680 John C Dvorak: today on the show, A Look has better mics. 1069 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:11,820 Thank you. Harris's 1070 00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:15,420 Unknown: media strategy, Harris is doing a whirlwind of three 1071 00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:18,780 interviews today, which was the impetus for our podcast. You 1072 00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:21,500 know, since she has become the Democratic nominee, she's done a 1073 00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:24,860 mix of mainstream broadcast television interviews places 1074 00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:28,640 like CNN and CBS, is 60 minutes. And then she's also done 1075 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,760 untraditional interviews with podcasts to engage with folks 1076 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,520 who might not be traditional news consumers. 1077 00:59:34,580 --> 00:59:38,360 Adam Curry: See that they are so irked, they are beside 1078 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,560 themselves, because, you know, come is not going to go on the 1079 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,340 NPR politics podcast, which no one listens to, but other 1080 00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:46,240 podcasters. 1081 00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,540 Unknown: Aline, I want to start the conversation with you. What 1082 00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:54,640 is the thinking behind the mix the combination of interviews 1083 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,380 Harris has been doing. This is a very 1084 00:59:56,380 --> 00:59:59,920 interesting strategy, this new kind of realm of of podcasts. 1085 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,840 Going on social media. You know, that's kind of a clear hand out 1086 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,660 to younger voters. No 1087 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,600 Adam Curry: has nothing to do with younger voters. What 1088 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,480 picture the average Rogan listener is older than you think 1089 01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:15,000 Unknown: to to kind of get them involved in the places that they 1090 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,240 consume information. And you know, regardless of where she's 1091 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,800 going, these are places with audiences of millions of people. 1092 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,960 John C Dvorak: That's just a thought. Pastor, I think they're 1093 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,720 equating podcast listeners with tick tock listeners or viewers, 1094 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,140 because that is a younger demographic. I'm convinced of 1095 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:36,680 it. I'm 1096 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,260 Adam Curry: not even I'm not even sure of that the people I 1097 01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:43,480 see addicted to tick tock are my age, I'm not so sure about that. 1098 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:43,960 Well, 1099 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,540 John C Dvorak: okay, you got me there. It's possible I'm wrong. 1100 01:00:46,540 --> 01:00:47,200 No, this, 1101 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,620 Adam Curry: this is just what you're hearing in their voices. 1102 01:00:50,620 --> 01:00:51,220 Bigotry, 1103 01:00:51,220 --> 01:00:51,640 John C Dvorak: by the way, 1104 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,340 Adam Curry: is what they're angry. They're angry. They're 1105 01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:57,340 angry because, oh well, they have the big audiences, because 1106 01:00:57,340 --> 01:01:01,140 they're just influencers, because they're just no good. I 1107 01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:04,260 mean, you're fighting, they're fighting a system that is that 1108 01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:08,040 you always lose because, yes, they have big audiences, because 1109 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,760 they don't have a stick up their butt like you do with a crappy 1110 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,720 sound. You 1111 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,060 Unknown: know, regardless of where she's going, these are 1112 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,480 places with audiences of millions of people, and she's 1113 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,740 going on these podcasts that you know, are kind of more geared 1114 01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:26,240 towards younger folks. She just went on on Sunday to Alex 1115 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,040 Cooper's show called call her daddy, which is a show mostly, I 1116 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,040 mean entertainment podcast. It's one of the top shows in the 1117 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,640 country, and it's about topics like sex and relationships. And 1118 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,100 Harris kind of had this long conversation about different 1119 01:01:40,220 --> 01:01:42,700 issues affecting young women today, and talked a lot about 1120 01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:44,140 abortion. So let's talk 1121 01:01:44,140 --> 01:01:47,080 a little bit more about a couple of these specific podcast 1122 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,380 interviews she's done. Let's talk specifically about the call 1123 01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:51,220 her daddy episode. 1124 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,100 John C Dvorak: This idea of, let's talk about, let's talk 1125 01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:57,340 about, I've noticed this on a lot of these, these, this comes 1126 01:01:57,340 --> 01:02:02,340 from Amy Goodman. This will tell us about, let's talk about, 1127 01:02:02,340 --> 01:02:05,460 let's talk about this. We've never done that on this show, 1128 01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:05,700 what 1129 01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:06,300 Adam Curry: say you? 1130 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,620 John C Dvorak: What say you? Well, that's even worse. 1131 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,240 Adam Curry: Yes, 1132 01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:14,640 Unknown: she's done let's talk specifically about the call her 1133 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,780 daddy episode. You know, I felt like it was, in a lot of ways, 1134 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:21,080 it was like an infomercial for Harris. It was just an 1135 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,360 opportunity for her to talk at length. 1136 01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:27,200 That's what she wanted. It almost to me, felt like the 1137 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,680 point of that interview was to do the interview, if that makes 1138 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,620 sense, like her being on the podcast just to say the words 1139 01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:37,340 Kamala Harris is on call her daddy, like that in itself, is 1140 01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:40,180 something I've heard. You know, folks around my age feel like, 1141 01:02:40,180 --> 01:02:43,000 oh my god, this is kind of crazy because of what I said earlier. 1142 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,300 This show is not known for talking about politics. 1143 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,060 Adam Curry: Politics. Have another you want to hear more of 1144 01:02:49,060 --> 01:02:50,860 this, these two dingbats. 1145 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,980 John C Dvorak: I want to mention that if you listen to the 1146 01:02:53,980 --> 01:02:57,700 beginning of the call for call for daddy, call call her daddy. 1147 01:02:57,820 --> 01:03:00,660 Call for daddy, there's a call me your podcast. We're going to 1148 01:03:00,660 --> 01:03:03,660 start with a call for daddy. Call for daddy. So 1149 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,260 Adam Curry: it's a faith based podcast, call for dad. 1150 01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:14,400 John C Dvorak: Alex goes starts it off with an unbelievable 1151 01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:18,780 like, five minutes of apologia. I'm using that word instead of 1152 01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:24,200 apology, but Apollo that she's doing this at all. Yes, she goes 1153 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,960 on and on and on about, wait, don't do politics 1154 01:03:27,020 --> 01:03:30,380 Adam Curry: cross legged like crisscross applesauce on her 1155 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,120 oversized couch. Okay, all right, daddy verse, whatever she 1156 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,260 calls it, daddy verse, 1157 01:03:36,380 --> 01:03:41,380 John C Dvorak: daddy verse. I am convinced that she was forced 1158 01:03:41,380 --> 01:03:46,900 into this by Spotify. Maybe, I think so, because she was so 1159 01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:49,900 apology. Didn't want to do it. There doesn't fit into the for 1160 01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:52,240 you blah, blah, blah. She went on and on and on, saying she's 1161 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,980 sorry for doing this, as you know. So I guess they let her 1162 01:03:56,980 --> 01:04:00,780 get away with with that excuse. But the whole thing was off top. 1163 01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:04,200 It was off. It was off. It was off. What do you call it? It's 1164 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,780 not off topic, but it's off. Sucks, 1165 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,260 Adam Curry: sucks. It sucks. Not relevant. That's 1166 01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:11,160 John C Dvorak: it sucks, not 1167 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,060 Adam Curry: relevant, not relevant. All right, so Well, 1168 01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:18,240 that's enough of that, but let's stay with the same podcast, 1169 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,520 because they spent a lot of time talking about the new deets. The 1170 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,600 new deets on the case filed against Trump for January 6. Oh, 1171 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,480 no, there's new evidence. It's hard evidence he's going down. 1172 01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:32,060 Oh, we've got something. We've got him now. So 1173 01:04:32,060 --> 01:04:34,520 Unknown: we are in the middle of a presidential campaign, and we 1174 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,700 are still getting new details about Donald Trump's efforts to 1175 01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:41,260 overturn the last presidential election, this time in the form 1176 01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:44,500 of a filing from Special Counsel Jack Smith. Can you just explain 1177 01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:46,600 what happened this week? Yeah, absolutely. 1178 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,920 There. There were new things to learn, even though, and of the 1179 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,980 January 6 committee on Capitol Hill and many others have been 1180 01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:56,920 spending a lot of time and energy digging up details. The 1181 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,920 difference here is that the Justice Department and the FBI. 1182 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,480 Had subpoena power. They could execute searches, and people 1183 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,960 felt the need or compelled to talk, and so we got some new 1184 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:12,480 details. Maybe the most significant to me was on the day 1185 01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:16,680 of the Capitol riot itself, on January 6, 2021 the prosecutors 1186 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,900 asserted that it was Donald Trump himself who was sitting in 1187 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,340 a dining room off the Oval Office watching Fox News and 1188 01:05:25,340 --> 01:05:28,640 issuing some of the tweets himself that day. In particular, 1189 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,840 that tweet around 2:24pm, where he said his Vice President Mike 1190 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,020 Pence lacked the courage to do the right thing. Remember, Trump 1191 01:05:36,020 --> 01:05:39,440 and others had been leaning on pence to kind of put a pause on 1192 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,920 the certification of the electoral votes, and pence 1193 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,040 refused. And you know, there was violence at the capitol that 1194 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,420 day. Within a minute of Trump's tweet, Pence had been evacuated 1195 01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:53,500 by the Secret Service, and then an aide came rushing in to tell 1196 01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:57,280 Trump that there was chaos and danger at the Capitol, including 1197 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,420 toward Mike Pence. And according to this new filing, Trump 1198 01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:04,260 replied, so what? Oh, 1199 01:06:04,260 --> 01:06:05,100 no. 1200 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,140 Adam Curry: So this is new evidence. Throw the book at him. 1201 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,280 Oh, but wait, there's more. 1202 01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:16,440 Unknown: So a lot of new detail here. Additional new detail. The 1203 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,980 former president allegedly said to his daughter Ivanka and son 1204 01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,720 in law Jared that the details about the election really didn't 1205 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,380 matter, and election fraud really didn't matter. You've 1206 01:06:27,380 --> 01:06:32,720 just got to fight like hell. And so that is new evidence about 1207 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,040 what Trump said and did on key days, as well as his state of 1208 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,020 mind and about his state of mind 1209 01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:42,460 Adam Curry: these people, I mean, I'm throwing them out of 1210 01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:45,340 podcast index. I'm censoring them, I'm throwing them out. 1211 01:06:47,260 --> 01:06:50,020 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you could actually, technically, maybe, 1212 01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:53,620 Adam Curry: no, technically, I could do it right now. I won't. 1213 01:06:54,880 --> 01:07:00,420 They deserve it and so, and I know you have two, two clips on 1214 01:07:00,420 --> 01:07:04,380 this, which I think will probably expand on this general 1215 01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:08,400 overview, because not only do we have this damning evidence of 1216 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,300 Trump saying you've got to fight like hell and who cares? I mean, 1217 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:17,160 oh my god. I mean, we need to throw him in jail. No, no, but, 1218 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:19,620 but that nut job is back. 1219 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,460 Unknown: Donald Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin 1220 01:07:22,460 --> 01:07:26,660 has been scrutinized since his 2016 bid for President. The 1221 01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:29,420 Republican leader has long embraced Putin, whose 1222 01:07:29,420 --> 01:07:33,260 intelligence policies were found to have meddled in US elections. 1223 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,220 Now, a new book by veteran American journalist Bob Woodward 1224 01:07:37,460 --> 01:07:40,540 reports further explosive details on the two men's 1225 01:07:40,540 --> 01:07:41,740 interactions, first 1226 01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:45,220 Adam Curry: of all, spook and second of all explosive details, 1227 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:45,640 the 1228 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,240 Unknown: Opus titled war cites and the Opus. 1229 01:07:49,780 --> 01:07:51,580 Adam Curry: What? What is an opus? 1230 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,420 John C Dvorak: What does that even mean? Like, you know, Ben 1231 01:07:55,420 --> 01:07:57,580 Hur Yes, 1232 01:07:59,020 --> 01:08:02,760 Unknown: the Opus titled war cites an unnamed Trump aide who 1233 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,420 says the pair had spoken as many as seven times since Trump left 1234 01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:10,500 office. The aide also recalls one instance early this year 1235 01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:13,740 where they were ordered out of Trump's office in Mar a Lago so 1236 01:08:13,740 --> 01:08:16,860 he could take a call with the Russian president. However, the 1237 01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:20,220 book also quotes a Trump campaign official who cast doubt 1238 01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:23,780 on the supposed contact. Former presidents often speak with 1239 01:08:23,780 --> 01:08:27,140 foreign leaders, but it's highly unusual to talk to a leader of 1240 01:08:27,140 --> 01:08:30,080 one of the United States adversaries without first 1241 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,200 clearing it with the State Department. The book also 1242 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,100 alleges Trump sent Putin covid 19 testing equipment for his 1243 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,560 personal use in 2020 when many nations were facing shortages. 1244 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,920 In a statement, the Trump campaign said these were made up 1245 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,060 stories and called Woodward a demented and deranged man. The 1246 01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:52,420 Kremlin, meanwhile, also denied the conversations between Trump 1247 01:08:52,420 --> 01:08:56,560 and Putin. Woodward rose to fame after he and his colleague Carl 1248 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,300 Bernstein, exposed the Watergate scandal, bringing down Richard 1249 01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:04,020 Nixon, he's written more than 20 books on American politics and 1250 01:09:04,020 --> 01:09:07,440 current affairs, including 14 bestsellers. What 1251 01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:11,820 Adam Curry: happened to America? Man, we used to love people who 1252 01:09:11,820 --> 01:09:15,480 would do stuff like that. You just say, I remember Ronald 1253 01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:18,480 Reagan, he was doing a speech and something like a gun sound 1254 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:21,680 went off, and he went, Oh, you missed me. I mean, these funny 1255 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,660 things and oh, now I remember. Now it's an outrage and so 1256 01:09:26,660 --> 01:09:31,100 horrible. It's hilarious. We need, 1257 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,980 John C Dvorak: we need more, dude, back back to this topic 1258 01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:37,580 you just broached. I do have a three by three which covers it. 1259 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:37,940 Okay, 1260 01:09:38,179 --> 01:09:40,419 Adam Curry: so I'm sorry. Here we go. Now it's time for three 1261 01:09:40,419 --> 01:09:45,279 by three, yes, experiment by successful experiment, comparing 1262 01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:52,659 stories from ABC, CBS and NBC, lot of people get real happy 1263 01:09:52,659 --> 01:09:55,659 when they hear that. Music, oh yes, it's a three by music. It's 1264 01:09:55,659 --> 01:09:58,719 happy. Music, yes, we have a three by three of this topic, 1265 01:09:58,719 --> 01:09:59,559 this is interesting 1266 01:09:59,740 --> 01:10:02,040 John C Dvorak: now. We heard, yeah, I thought I was this 1267 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:08,100 again, Steve sent us in. So I will say the first clip, owner 1268 01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:12,840 plays ABC. Now you heard the part where, I guess Trump sent 1269 01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:16,920 over a piece of gear to to Putin, 1270 01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:19,200 Adam Curry: yeah, like, like, one of the one of those free 1271 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,440 testing kits. You got four No, no. 1272 01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,660 John C Dvorak: He said, This gear you were talking about. 1273 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,920 What do you think that was 1274 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,620 Adam Curry: free testing? Kids, it would have to 1275 01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:32,660 John C Dvorak: be a PCR testing module. It has to be some sort 1276 01:10:32,660 --> 01:10:34,880 of, you know, equipment, right? Well, you're 1277 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,620 Adam Curry: gonna spin it up, okay. Well, I 1278 01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:38,960 John C Dvorak: guess I mean, what else would it be? They're 1279 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:44,740 good. In this clip, Kamala Harris is brought into the 1280 01:10:44,740 --> 01:10:49,540 convention moan, and she she makes it sound as if, because I 1281 01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:53,860 think she thinks this, that what Trump did, and he listened 1282 01:10:53,860 --> 01:10:57,100 between the lines, he didn't say, no, no, it wasn't some PCR 1283 01:10:57,100 --> 01:11:02,460 gear. It was a bunch of kits. Yes, you're those three kids 1284 01:11:02,460 --> 01:11:06,360 that you get four, four household, 100 of them. 1285 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,620 Adam Curry: Trump probably had amongst his 17 grandchild, and 1286 01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:13,200 he probably had, you know, about 100 so he probably sent here 1287 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,840 Senator Vlad DHL. 1288 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,780 John C Dvorak: But we have to, we're assuming it was a PCR 1289 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,400 gear. It wasn't a bunch of boxes of cheap tests that don't do 1290 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:30,080 anything. But let's listen to this. As the covid pandemic was 1291 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,900 raging and the government could not produce enough tests for the 1292 01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:37,520 American people, then President Donald Trump secretly sent rare 1293 01:11:37,580 --> 01:11:42,700 covid test machines to Russia to Vladimir's dictator's personal 1294 01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,240 use. That's according to Bob Woodward in a soon to be 1295 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,660 published book called War, Woodward writes that Putin told 1296 01:11:49,660 --> 01:11:53,140 Trump to keep it a secret, saying quote, I don't want you 1297 01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:56,500 to tell anybody, because people will get mad at you, not me. 1298 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,680 Kamala Harris seized on Woodward's new reporting today, 1299 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,240 talking about it in an interview with Howard Stern, everybody was 1300 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:08,100 Unknown: scrambling to get these kits, the tests, the covid test 1301 01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,320 kits, couldn't get them, couldn't get them, couldn't get 1302 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,400 them anywhere. Howard 1303 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,900 Adam Curry: Stern had 1000 of them, hypochondriac and 1304 01:12:15,900 --> 01:12:18,240 Unknown: this guy who was president of the United States, 1305 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,860 is sending them to Russia, to a murderous dictator for his 1306 01:12:21,860 --> 01:12:26,840 personal use, this person who wants to be president again, who 1307 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:32,000 secretly is helping out an adversary when the American 1308 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:37,700 people are dying by the hundreds every day and in need of relief, 1309 01:12:37,820 --> 01:12:41,140 Trump also had some choice words for Woodward, calling him a 1310 01:12:41,140 --> 01:12:46,000 storyteller who, quote, lost his marbles. Woodward, though, is 1311 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,780 one of the most respected journalists of our times. And as 1312 01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:52,900 you know, David Trump has frequently praised Vladimir 1313 01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:56,620 Putin and boasted about having a good relationship with the 1314 01:12:56,620 --> 01:12:57,760 Russian dictator. 1315 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,060 Adam Curry: You know, we don't talk about this enough, but I 1316 01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:05,340 gotta blow I gotta blow taps for Howard Stern. What happened to 1317 01:13:05,340 --> 01:13:09,840 Howard Stern, the king of all media, The Man Who Would he was 1318 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,680 fighting the man fighting the FCC, fighting the government. 1319 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,300 What happened? What do they have on him? How did this? How did 1320 01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:22,940 this happen that he became a photo. What's that in your 1321 01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:31,400 mouth? Howard? Now it's, it is, it's sad. I, I used to love 1322 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:36,020 driving into New York from Jersey for years at the Lincoln 1323 01:13:36,020 --> 01:13:39,260 Tunnel, sitting there. Now, at least Howard's on when it was 1324 01:13:39,260 --> 01:13:44,080 best of Stern, we were still happy, and now it's just what 1325 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,820 has gone wrong. 1326 01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:49,900 John C Dvorak: Well, you're not the only one that's mystified by 1327 01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:55,540 this. No, it was very let's go with the second, the second of 1328 01:13:55,540 --> 01:13:58,900 the three, three by three. So we go with, let's go to CBS 1329 01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:01,860 Unknown: during the early days of the pandemic in 2020 then 1330 01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:05,220 President Donald Trump sent Russian President Vladimir Putin 1331 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,420 covid 19 test machines. According to the new book War by 1332 01:14:09,420 --> 01:14:12,720 Bob Woodward, Vice President Kamala Harris responded today 1333 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,120 during an interview with Howard Stern, everybody 1334 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:20,160 was scrambling to get these kits, the tests, the covid test 1335 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,340 kits, couldn't get them, couldn't get them, couldn't get 1336 01:14:22,340 --> 01:14:26,480 them anywhere, right? This guy who was president of the United 1337 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:30,320 States is sending them to Russia to a murderous dictator for his 1338 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,220 personal use. 1339 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,760 Even after he left office, Trump stayed in touch with the Russian 1340 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,760 leader. According to Woodward, he cites an unidentified Trump 1341 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,360 aide who said the former president had as many as seven 1342 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,720 private calls with Putin, even one early this year, when Trump 1343 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,140 was urging Republicans to block additional aid to Ukraine in its 1344 01:14:47,140 --> 01:14:50,020 fight against Russia, the newly revealed contacts raised 1345 01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:52,900 additional questions about Trump's relationship with Putin 1346 01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:55,960 in the recent presidential debate, Trump twice refused to 1347 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,960 say who he wanted to prevail in the war with Ukraine. Do 1348 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,320 you want Ukraine? Time to win this war. 1349 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,240 I want the war to stop. The 1350 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,360 vice president told 60 minutes Trump would have allowed Putin 1351 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,560 to conquer Ukraine. 1352 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,520 Donald Trump, if he were president, Putin would be 1353 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,360 sitting in Kyiv right now. He talks about, oh, he can end it 1354 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,360 on day one. You know what that is. It's about surrender. 1355 01:15:18,780 --> 01:15:19,320 Woodward, 1356 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,220 who rose to fame investigating Watergate writes in the book, 1357 01:15:22,220 --> 01:15:25,760 Trump was far worse than Richard Nixon, a Trump spokesman 1358 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,640 responded saying Woodward's reporting is not true and that 1359 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,060 Trump gave Woodward absolutely no access 1360 01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,000 hit job. 1361 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,580 John C Dvorak: Now a couple of things about this, and the other 1362 01:15:37,580 --> 01:15:42,160 one is that neither report mentions the fact that they talk 1363 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,780 about machines, covid, PCR, machines are here. They said it 1364 01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:49,480 here in this report. No, they said it was machines. But they 1365 01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:53,320 never make the point that she's talking about test kits, kits. 1366 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:58,240 Yeah, by the way, clear that this machines are not test kits. 1367 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:02,700 Yet they play her talking about test kits with no clarification 1368 01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:05,160 whatsoever. I have some clips later in the show, if we get to 1369 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,760 them, about some of the science reporting on NPR, doing the same 1370 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,940 kind of thing, leaving out details that are necessary for 1371 01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:15,480 understanding. Leaving out details that are necessary for 1372 01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:19,080 understanding is what these networks are doing. And they're 1373 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,040 doing a they're doing a disservice to the American 1374 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,700 public with this sort of reporting just I it's just 1375 01:16:25,700 --> 01:16:30,260 beyond me What What I know is going on. So I'm 1376 01:16:30,260 --> 01:16:34,400 Adam Curry: looking for an excerpt in war would this is 1377 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,660 from BBC in war. Woodward writes that while the former president 1378 01:16:38,660 --> 01:16:41,800 was in office, Trump secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott 1379 01:16:41,860 --> 01:16:46,480 point of care covid test machines for his personal use. 1380 01:16:47,740 --> 01:16:53,560 So that is what was written in the book. So Harris is 1381 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,500 completely nuts when she's talking about the test kits. And 1382 01:16:57,220 --> 01:17:00,100 have you noticed that Howard's voice is lighter like he's he 1383 01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:02,520 does. He does. He talks a little more in the front of his mouth. 1384 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:03,660 He doesn't have that throaty 1385 01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:06,840 John C Dvorak: I didn't know this is but you would, yeah. All 1386 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,440 right, let's play the last of the three, which will be NBC 1387 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,040 Unknown: tonight in her ongoing media blitz. Vice President 1388 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,760 Harris telling ABC she wouldn't change anything President Biden 1389 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,240 did. 1390 01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:21,620 Would you have done something differently than President Biden 1391 01:17:21,860 --> 01:17:23,060 during the past four years. 1392 01:17:24,620 --> 01:17:27,860 There is Donna thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've 1393 01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:28,640 been, I think 1394 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,000 Adam Curry: she lost the election on this. I think this 1395 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:37,520 was the this was the loser. When you say this, nothing comes to 1396 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,080 mind, yeah, 1397 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,800 John C Dvorak: and there's plenty that just there was wide 1398 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,000 days. It was a softball that Sonny horses had to literally 1399 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:47,860 read from a sheet. Yes, 1400 01:17:48,940 --> 01:17:51,280 Adam Curry: this was the, I think this is the election 1401 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,440 losing answer, right? There 1402 01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:56,200 Unknown: is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and 1403 01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:01,020 I've been a part of, most of the decisions that have had impact 1404 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,140 later, saying she would name a Republican to her cabinet, 1405 01:18:04,260 --> 01:18:07,140 former President Trump slamming the response, calling it quote 1406 01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:10,980 her dumbest answer so far, and Biden the worst president in 1407 01:18:10,980 --> 01:18:13,860 history. Meanwhile, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward 1408 01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:17,100 writes in a new book that former President Trump secretly sent 1409 01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:20,840 Russian President Putin covid tests for his personal use in 1410 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,380 2020 please don't tell anybody you sent these to me. Woodward 1411 01:18:24,380 --> 01:18:28,040 says Putin told Trump I don't care. Trump replied, fine. 1412 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,580 Woodward citing an unnamed aide who claims Trump may have spoken 1413 01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:34,940 to Putin as many as seven times since leaving the White House. 1414 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,080 NBC News has not confirmed Woodward's reporting. The Trump 1415 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,980 campaign responding in part, quote, none of these made up 1416 01:18:41,980 --> 01:18:45,700 stories by Bob Woodward are true. Harris slamming Trump 1417 01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:46,300 today, 1418 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:51,220 everybody was scrambling to get these kits, the tests. This guy 1419 01:18:51,220 --> 01:18:53,860 who was president of the United States, is sending them to 1420 01:18:53,860 --> 01:18:59,380 Russia, to a murderous dictator for his personal use. Brother 1421 01:19:00,339 --> 01:19:02,999 John C Dvorak: NBC did the worst job of it, because they didn't 1422 01:19:02,999 --> 01:19:07,319 even indicate that it was a machine, no, which you easily 1423 01:19:07,319 --> 01:19:11,939 noted. It took you all of two seconds to read from the from 1424 01:19:11,939 --> 01:19:13,739 BBC document from 1425 01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:15,660 Adam Curry: the book. Oh, gee, there's 1426 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,240 John C Dvorak: like these guys even made it sound as though it 1427 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,040 was test kits. NBC did so they could that would would normalize 1428 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,280 what it would make it more sense. It would normalize what 1429 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,360 Harris said, Good point by by soft pedaling, what it really 1430 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,680 was good. This is the kind of NBC is going off the deep end. I 1431 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,460 blame Comcast. I blame does Brian L Roberts guy? The guy was 1432 01:19:37,460 --> 01:19:42,880 the CEO. Somebody should call him out. Okay, well, 1433 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,280 Adam Curry: might as well be you, because no one else is 1434 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:50,980 listening. Call him out. This is another problem we can't do more 1435 01:19:50,980 --> 01:19:54,040 than four more years. It's not going to be any media left to 1436 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,560 deconstruct. We'll just be talking about podcasts. 1437 01:19:57,340 --> 01:20:00,120 John C Dvorak: That's the way it's headed. Yeah, I. All 1438 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,100 Adam Curry: right, before we take a break, there was one 1439 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:08,280 interesting piece of news about Tina Peters Tina Peters day is 1440 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:13,260 her name. She was the she was overseeing the election in Mesa, 1441 01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:20,480 Arizona, and she took issue with the voting machines. Now, when 1442 01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:24,560 you hear this story, what she what she really got convicted 1443 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:30,500 for, is for allowing an unauthorized person to take a 1444 01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:32,960 look at the machines. And there's a whole bunch of other 1445 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,600 stuff. There was screenshots where everybody could see it was 1446 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,560 near the password was one, password, 123, and stuff like 1447 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,120 that, which is important information for people, but they 1448 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,760 threw the book at her. Elections 1449 01:20:45,820 --> 01:20:49,120 Unknown: have consequences, and so does breaking the law in 1450 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,020 search of election rigging. Tina Peters sentenced today to nine 1451 01:20:53,020 --> 01:20:56,740 years in her election tampering case. Colorado's best known 1452 01:20:56,740 --> 01:21:00,100 election denier, the former Mesa County Clerk, was defiant till 1453 01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:03,660 the end, arguing with the judge at sentencing and bringing in a 1454 01:21:03,660 --> 01:21:06,660 parade of fellow election conspiracy theorists to defend 1455 01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:09,780 her. Our Mark Salinger was in court in Grand Junction where 1456 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:14,460 Peters laughed at prosecutors, lectured the judge, then was led 1457 01:21:14,460 --> 01:21:18,060 away in handcuffs. Tina Peters is a hero to the people who 1458 01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:22,520 believe her lies, but inside this courthouse, those same lies 1459 01:21:22,580 --> 01:21:26,480 made her a felon. You are a charlatan, and you cannot help 1460 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:29,960 but lie as easy it is for you to breathe, a reckoning happened 1461 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,380 today in judge Matthew Barrett's courtroom. For nearly 30 1462 01:21:33,380 --> 01:21:36,560 minutes, speaking directly to Peters, he made it clear that 1463 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:41,320 words have consequences and lies lead to prison sentences. Prison 1464 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,740 is for those folks, where we send people who are a danger to 1465 01:21:44,740 --> 01:21:49,120 all of us, whether it by be by the pen or the sword or the word 1466 01:21:49,180 --> 01:21:53,620 of the mouth, prison is where folks go, where punishment is 1467 01:21:53,620 --> 01:21:57,580 what we're focused on, because the crime committed is so 1468 01:21:57,580 --> 01:22:01,440 significant that anything less would unduly mitigate the 1469 01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:04,680 seriousness of the same Peters granted conspiracy theorists 1470 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,220 illegal access to voting systems in our county as she searched 1471 01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:11,640 for proof of voter fraud, even to this day, after finding no 1472 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,000 proof of fraud, she maintains the election was stolen from 1473 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,900 Donald Trump, and told the court She did nothing wrong. So 1474 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,700 Adam Curry: okay, so you threw the book at her, because she 1475 01:22:22,700 --> 01:22:26,540 after the election. By the way, after all the election was said 1476 01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:31,820 and done, she lets in computer experts, now known as conspiracy 1477 01:22:31,820 --> 01:22:35,900 theorists, to take a look at these machines, and then in the 1478 01:22:35,900 --> 01:22:39,740 courtroom, the judge is making it sound like, Oh, if you're a 1479 01:22:39,740 --> 01:22:44,020 danger, if you say things that aren't true. He was really 1480 01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:48,220 making a big deal out of all, you lie, you lie. So we're 1481 01:22:48,220 --> 01:22:53,980 throwing you in jail for nine years. This, this is something 1482 01:22:53,980 --> 01:22:57,520 that actually kind of worries me. Yes, 1483 01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,740 John C Dvorak: this is worrisome. Yes, it's very 1484 01:22:59,740 --> 01:23:04,320 worrisome. She was sincere? Yeah, yeah, it wasn't that she 1485 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,080 was and what did she lie about? What? 1486 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,240 Adam Curry: Well, because there was supposedly no proof, 1487 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,840 whatever. Therefore she lied. Therefore throw her in jail. But 1488 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,080 there. But the real charge is that she allowed unauthorized 1489 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,280 access to these voting machines. Yeah, after the fact, hey, I 1490 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,020 know, I know these are 1491 01:23:24,620 --> 01:23:27,080 John C Dvorak: these. Something's up with Arizona. 1492 01:23:27,260 --> 01:23:31,220 Yes, they stay away. Wasn't really about her. This was about 1493 01:23:31,220 --> 01:23:32,660 anyone else who thinks they're gonna 1494 01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:36,860 Adam Curry: poke around. Yeah, don't do anything with with 1495 01:23:36,860 --> 01:23:37,040 those 1496 01:23:37,220 --> 01:23:39,320 John C Dvorak: you're gonna poke around our area. Forget it. 1497 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,700 Arizona's notorious for this sort of thing, yeah, on both 1498 01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:47,140 sides of the of the political spectrum. And 1499 01:23:47,140 --> 01:23:49,120 Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. 1500 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,700 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the covid 1501 01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:54,580 testing machine sent to Putin Hey. Say hello to my friend on 1502 01:23:54,580 --> 01:23:56,320 the other end, the one only, Mr. Jones in the 1503 01:24:01,060 --> 01:24:03,120 John C Dvorak: morning, to you, Mr. McCurry, in the morning 1504 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,400 should see boots and graffiti the air subs in the water dais 1505 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,480 out there. 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I can't think of a single thing would have to do an 1536 01:25:56,260 --> 01:25:57,100 emergency pod. I 1537 01:25:57,100 --> 01:25:59,680 John C Dvorak: don't even if Florida, for example, broke off 1538 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:00,960 and fell into the ocean. 1539 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,320 Adam Curry: Well, if California broke off, I'd be calling for 1540 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:06,840 me. No, no, no, no. Unless 1541 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,100 John C Dvorak: I get Starlink, 1542 01:26:08,820 --> 01:26:11,700 Adam Curry: you better get one for that emergency pod moment. 1543 01:26:13,020 --> 01:26:15,600 John C Dvorak: So regardless of you have Starlink, you 1544 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,840 Adam Curry: should so regardless of when we start, you get alert, 1545 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,260 and then you click on it, boom, you're listening, it's perfect. 1546 01:26:21,260 --> 01:26:24,800 And there's all kinds of extra bonus bits. You get transcripts, 1547 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,560 so you can search in the transcript, which is very handy. 1548 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,500 Like, yeah, what were the boys talking about? Yep, you go to 1549 01:26:30,500 --> 01:26:32,960 the transcript search, boom, click. It plays right there. 1550 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,880 It's very it's very handy. In addition to that, you get things 1551 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,340 like our chapters, so you can skip around or skip forwards. 1552 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,940 Best skip backwards with great art. So a lot of the art that we 1553 01:26:45,940 --> 01:26:48,940 use there comes from our art. Most of it comes from our Art 1554 01:26:48,940 --> 01:26:51,400 Generator, from our artists. Thank you very much, Dr Scott 1555 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,400 for doing that, and that's part of the value for value model. We 1556 01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:00,220 have producers all around the world. Brian of London sent me 1557 01:27:00,220 --> 01:27:05,220 this clip. I didn't clip it. It was a guy on LBC, and he was 1558 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:08,460 bitching and moaning how he can't even get one jingle, even 1559 01:27:08,460 --> 01:27:11,460 a sound effect. That can't even get a sound effect from this 1560 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:11,940 company, 1561 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,660 John C Dvorak: and LBC won't provide him with that stuff. 1562 01:27:15,660 --> 01:27:15,960 Well, he 1563 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,300 Adam Curry: says it takes 11 weeks. It's got to be, you know, 1564 01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:20,100 got to go through community, legal, 1565 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,940 Unknown: legal, it's got to go through legal. Always go through 1566 01:27:22,940 --> 01:27:24,560 legal. And 1567 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,240 Adam Curry: meanwhile, if I said, Hey, give me a sound 1568 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,540 effect of X, Y or Z, it would be sent to me within five minutes. 1569 01:27:29,540 --> 01:27:30,200 I'd have it 1570 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,500 John C Dvorak: at habit. One, you're kidding. You get a dozen 1571 01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:33,800 even, 1572 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,620 Adam Curry: yes, exactly, exactly. And that's because 1573 01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:39,260 everyone is a producer of this show. No one's just a casual, 1574 01:27:39,260 --> 01:27:42,220 haphazard listener. Know you're a producer, and is your 1575 01:27:42,220 --> 01:27:45,100 responsibility when that topic comes up, that one thing that 1576 01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:47,860 you're an expert in, you have to let us know about it, like the 1577 01:27:47,860 --> 01:27:51,040 weather modification guy. I mean, that's it's amazing that 1578 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,760 we have these people in our in our listening audience, and we 1579 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,200 also have people in the national it's 1580 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,740 John C Dvorak: actually kind of stunning. Well, it's a big 1581 01:27:59,740 --> 01:28:01,620 Adam Curry: club, and you're in. If I 1582 01:28:01,620 --> 01:28:04,080 John C Dvorak: get to my science clips, there's a there's a 1583 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,840 couple of things in there where I'm gonna actually request, oh, 1584 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,380 good, some clarification from people that are experts. Good. 1585 01:28:10,380 --> 01:28:10,740 We'll do 1586 01:28:10,740 --> 01:28:13,080 Adam Curry: it right after, right after we're done, thanking 1587 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,980 our our value for value supporters. It's time, talent 1588 01:28:16,980 --> 01:28:21,320 and treasure. And we start with the artwork that we chose for 1589 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:27,200 episode 1701, we titled that dork Maga. I was on one hand, 1590 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:32,840 shocked on the other hand, kind of mortified that I heard Kara 1591 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:38,000 Swisher calling Elon Musk. Dork Maga. Did we? Did she hear that 1592 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,620 from us? Or did we somehow just catch on to some kind. I 1593 01:28:41,620 --> 01:28:44,500 John C Dvorak: think we're in the same way. Oh no, we, we were 1594 01:28:44,500 --> 01:28:47,440 on the same wavelength as Kara. That's 1595 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:51,220 Adam Curry: not good. That's kind of disappointing. But when 1596 01:28:51,220 --> 01:28:53,740 John C Dvorak: he said, when he said, dark, mega, the first 1597 01:28:53,740 --> 01:28:55,960 thing, I thought it was Darth Magna, because I thought was 1598 01:28:55,960 --> 01:29:00,700 funnier, Maga, and then dork use I think you said dork. 1599 01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:02,760 Adam Curry: I said, dork Maga, yeah, dork Meg, I 1600 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,820 John C Dvorak: wrote it down immediately. And so you and Kara 1601 01:29:05,820 --> 01:29:07,320 are on the same wave. 1602 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:08,280 Adam Curry: This is bad thing. This 1603 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,380 John C Dvorak: is bad. That's why you listen to her. I must 1604 01:29:10,380 --> 01:29:12,900 repent you actually have a crush on her. 1605 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,720 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, that's it. Uh huh, yeah, that would be it. 1606 01:29:16,380 --> 01:29:21,980 Right on. This was art which had a DNA strand. It was it was 1607 01:29:21,980 --> 01:29:26,180 okay. We were happy with it. We felt the choices weren't all 1608 01:29:26,180 --> 01:29:26,660 that. It was 1609 01:29:26,660 --> 01:29:27,800 John C Dvorak: a fallback piece. Let's 1610 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:33,020 Adam Curry: be honest. Tan Staffel tonstaffel, who I don't 1611 01:29:33,020 --> 01:29:39,320 know if this is, is this someone's nickname or I don't 1612 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,280 know who is it? That's not tanta Neal, it's Tom Stoffel. I 1613 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,200 John C Dvorak: don't let somebody new. It's not that. No, 1614 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,280 no, it's not new. 1615 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,920 Adam Curry: I think they've been around. Well, no, not 1616 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,300 John C Dvorak: long. First art was submitted for episode 61 1617 01:29:52,660 --> 01:29:52,840 you're 1618 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,300 Adam Curry: right, you're right, but he's done 1619 01:29:55,300 --> 01:29:56,380 John C Dvorak: good work, he 1620 01:29:56,380 --> 01:29:59,440 Adam Curry: or she, he or she, yes, a 1621 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:03,120 John C Dvorak: lot of good. Evergreen pieces, yeah, and it 1622 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,020 must be a she, because if you look at the logo of the tons, so 1623 01:30:07,020 --> 01:30:11,580 it's a girls, okay, well, then she was for four months. She 1624 01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:14,820 Adam Curry: must be a Dutch Master. 1625 01:30:15,060 --> 01:30:15,600 John C Dvorak: I we 1626 01:30:16,620 --> 01:30:18,840 Adam Curry: uncovered a new Dutch master. Now we didn't make 1627 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:23,000 it easy for everybody, because we said, hey, you can't do any 1628 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,820 Star Trek stuff. And I think a lot of people had Star Trek 1629 01:30:25,820 --> 01:30:30,560 stuff in mind, because it was episode 1701, starship 1701 USS, 1630 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:35,180 Starship Enterprise. And I think they got bummed out, and a 1631 01:30:35,180 --> 01:30:38,960 couple still did it. Of course. I think no one had ideas. You 1632 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,860 kind of liked the dog TV from Dame Kenny Ben. 1633 01:30:42,460 --> 01:30:45,160 John C Dvorak: I did like it, but it was simplistic looking. 1634 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,920 Because if the dogs are more dimensional, I think It'd have 1635 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,560 been better and you would have liked it. You hated it. But 1636 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:51,040 okay, 1637 01:30:51,460 --> 01:30:54,760 Adam Curry: yeah, there you go. I hated it. So, yeah, so we 1638 01:30:54,760 --> 01:31:00,180 didn't really have such a great selection. Nose, little ham 1639 01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:04,380 radio, by the way, I just like to mention so many people I 1640 01:31:04,380 --> 01:31:06,840 don't know about you. Are they probably not emailing you 1641 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:11,040 because they can't spell your last name, but they've been 1642 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,480 emailing me, hey, what radio should I get? About a ham radio? 1643 01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:15,600 I 1644 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,820 John C Dvorak: got a couple of those, but not too many. And 1645 01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:20,720 Adam Curry: I would just like to suggest that everybody we've 1646 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,060 been doing this for over a decade. I think, 1647 01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:25,220 John C Dvorak: I think you're but wait, but your best line is, 1648 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,280 wait, get a license. Yes, radio, yeah, 1649 01:31:28,340 --> 01:31:30,620 Adam Curry: that's about what I'm what I'm about to say, get a 1650 01:31:30,620 --> 01:31:34,160 license, not just because you need to be licensed. And 1651 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,160 actually, in an emergency, anybody can use these things. 1652 01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,680 You know, the license deal is not a big deal, but you go to 1653 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,960 arrl.org, you find out where they're testing. They do it once 1654 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:51,640 a month. Just to reiterate, all the questions for the test are 1655 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,760 published with the answers they won't ask you all the questions, 1656 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,220 but all the questions they ask you will have the exact same 1657 01:31:57,220 --> 01:31:59,860 answers, multiple choice, just in a different order, so you can 1658 01:31:59,860 --> 01:32:05,520 memorize but you need, you actually need to to do this to 1659 01:32:05,700 --> 01:32:09,240 figure out how this stuff works. Because, you know, repeater 1660 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,900 offsets and little things, just little tips and tricks you need 1661 01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:16,440 to know in order to function properly. Certainly on these two 1662 01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:20,780 meter or 70 centimeter ham ham bands, you need to hook up with 1663 01:32:20,780 --> 01:32:24,260 some people. So don't just think I can get a radio and then 1664 01:32:24,260 --> 01:32:28,160 Breaker, breaker, good buddy, Is this thing on? Because it takes, 1665 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,380 Unknown: it's 1666 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,360 Adam Curry: not the Italian guys, the span of security X, 1667 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:43,000 security X, the hams are all laughing now, trust me, now, 1668 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:43,180 yes, 1669 01:32:43,180 --> 01:32:44,860 John C Dvorak: it sounds like Mexican radio. 1670 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:49,960 Adam Curry: Just do that. You will not regret it. And it's, 1671 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:54,580 it's easy, and it'll cost you a total of 60 bucks to get it to 1672 01:32:54,580 --> 01:32:57,700 radius. By the way, that's with the radio. You know, 60 bucks 1673 01:32:57,700 --> 01:32:58,300 with the radio 1674 01:32:58,300 --> 01:33:01,020 John C Dvorak: box is high. Well, you looked at the prices 1675 01:33:01,020 --> 01:33:02,100 recently. Well, they 1676 01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:04,860 Adam Curry: got some really spiffy the bow thing, things, 1677 01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:08,400 you know, they're about things for 60 bucks, yeah, but you 1678 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:13,140 want, okay, yeah, you can get a lot of gear and and even 1679 01:33:13,140 --> 01:33:16,140 programming them is easy with some software, but just get into 1680 01:33:16,140 --> 01:33:19,260 it. Spend a weekend, get into it. It's worth it. You will not 1681 01:33:19,260 --> 01:33:20,600 regret it. You will not 1682 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,880 John C Dvorak: regret it. And you got a handy license you can 1683 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,920 frame, yes, 1684 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,800 Adam Curry: yeah. You can frame your handy license, yeah, right 1685 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,380 next to your Commodore ship, next 1686 01:33:30,380 --> 01:33:33,140 John C Dvorak: to your Commodore ship, next to your PhD next 1687 01:33:33,140 --> 01:33:36,800 year, your diploma from community college and the 1688 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,260 university. Whatever you got, I have my 1689 01:33:40,940 --> 01:33:44,560 Adam Curry: Connecticut School of broadcasting diploma. Very 1690 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,340 proud of that 1691 01:33:45,820 --> 01:33:49,000 John C Dvorak: good they're very proud of that long since 1692 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,560 defunct, yes, 1693 01:33:50,620 --> 01:33:55,960 Adam Curry: but I still have one. So thank you, tan Staffel. 1694 01:33:56,020 --> 01:34:00,480 Tan Staffel, for the artwork. No agenda, Art generator.com. You 1695 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:03,240 can participate. It's open for anybody to participate. You 1696 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,600 don't have to be good. You can do whatever you want. And if you 1697 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,260 want to upload AI art, that's fine. I'm changing my tune. I 1698 01:34:10,260 --> 01:34:15,300 want as much AI slop on social networks. I want the everything 1699 01:34:15,300 --> 01:34:18,960 flooded on the internet with nonsense AI stuff to make it 1700 01:34:19,260 --> 01:34:22,580 unusable and unattractive, particularly social networks. So 1701 01:34:22,580 --> 01:34:25,400 upload all your art to the social networks so it can be re 1702 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:30,680 ingested, and slop will be the result, so we can kill this off 1703 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:34,400 now to thank our executive and Associate Executive producers 1704 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,220 who sent in some treasure. We love the treasure because that 1705 01:34:37,220 --> 01:34:41,980 pays our bills, keeps us going with the show 17 years october 1706 01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,420 26 any amount is is good. Anytime you want to send it for 1707 01:34:46,420 --> 01:34:50,380 any reason, just send back the value you got from the show, and 1708 01:34:50,380 --> 01:34:52,780 that value can only be determined by you. For some, 1709 01:34:52,780 --> 01:34:56,080 that's more. For some, that's less. Amount wise, but doesn't 1710 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,900 mean it's any less valuable to you. That's what's so beautiful 1711 01:34:58,900 --> 01:35:02,280 about it. You can even. Do sustaining donations, any 1712 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,980 amount, at any time, any interval, no agenda, 1713 01:35:04,980 --> 01:35:08,400 donations.com and we will kick it off today with our top 1714 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,520 executive producer. The way that works is $200 and above, you're 1715 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,460 an Associate Executive Producer. Credit that is real can be used 1716 01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:17,160 anywhere. Credits are recognized, including imdb.com, 1717 01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:21,380 $300 and above, executive producer, and we read your note 1718 01:35:21,380 --> 01:35:25,340 as well. So Captain Luke from Rohnert Park, California, comes 1719 01:35:25,340 --> 01:35:31,940 in with $1,000 and he says, Hi, John and Adam, Captain Luke 1720 01:35:31,940 --> 01:35:36,320 Knight of the Barbary Coast. Here, when John cleans out his 1721 01:35:36,380 --> 01:35:41,200 PO Box, he should find my first donation check of $1,000 that 1722 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,040 both bumps me up to Baron and gets me, gets me a bonus boat 1723 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:50,800 driver title. That's right, Commodore boat driver title. So 1724 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,980 henceforth I should be known as Captain Luke Barron of Sonoma 1725 01:35:53,980 --> 01:35:58,060 County and commodore of all coastal and riverine operations 1726 01:35:58,060 --> 01:36:03,660 therein. And he would like to request old casbier and Al tazaj 1727 01:36:03,780 --> 01:36:07,860 Chicken. What is that? Altaz? Are you familiar with that? That 1728 01:36:07,860 --> 01:36:10,620 John C Dvorak: is, I believe, the chicken that everyone talks 1729 01:36:10,620 --> 01:36:14,520 about that's made at their chain of restaurants in Saudi Arabia. 1730 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,380 Adam Curry: Did you guys get that? Oh, did they say they got 1731 01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:21,380 it? I don't know how they got that, but they got it in 1732 01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:23,240 John C Dvorak: Okay, so the recipe is available. You can 1733 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:23,840 copy it. Oh, I 1734 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,460 Adam Curry: don't think they made it. I think they flew it. 1735 01:36:25,460 --> 01:36:25,700 It's 1736 01:36:25,700 --> 01:36:27,500 John C Dvorak: a it's a lure. It's a long, 1737 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:28,220 Unknown: uh, 1738 01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,940 John C Dvorak: soaked, uh brined chicken that's in season this or 1739 01:36:32,060 --> 01:36:35,540 very everybody brags. Everybody who's ever had this chicken, if 1740 01:36:35,540 --> 01:36:38,600 it's saying, what I'm thinking of goes on and on and on about 1741 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,360 how fabulous it is. Well, 1742 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,760 Adam Curry: we'll be trying it later on at the round table when 1743 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,580 we give you your title upgrade. No jingles, but I need an F 1744 01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:49,600 cancer for my son in law and special F glaucoma, glaucoma 1745 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,980 karma for my sister. That's horrible. Thank you for your 1746 01:36:53,980 --> 01:36:57,640 courage. Says Captain Luke. And so we'll roll out a double for 1747 01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:57,880 them. 1748 01:37:02,500 --> 01:37:07,920 Unknown: You've got karma. You've got karma. 1749 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,120 John C Dvorak: Remind Captain Luke and everyone else that's on 1750 01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:18,780 this list that you get your Commodore ship documents. You 1751 01:37:18,780 --> 01:37:23,600 are document you go to no agenda rings.com, and fill out the form 1752 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:28,040 so it gets sent to the right place with the right title. Just 1753 01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:29,000 sent out 20. 1754 01:37:29,060 --> 01:37:31,160 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm excited to get mine, because I want to take 1755 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:31,700 the you should have 1756 01:37:31,700 --> 01:37:33,560 John C Dvorak: gotten it by now. Should most, according to my 1757 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,320 post office, you supposed to have gotten it on Tuesday. I 1758 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,380 Adam Curry: didn't get it on Tuesday, and get it on 1759 01:37:39,380 --> 01:37:41,980 Wednesday. I'll check tomorrow, and otherwise I'll go to the 1760 01:37:41,980 --> 01:37:43,480 post office and raise hell. 1761 01:37:46,540 --> 01:37:49,360 John C Dvorak: Uh, Terrell a McMahan, I looked him up. I 1762 01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:54,880 couldn't find him in Bartlett. Bartlett as in pair Tennessee 1763 01:37:54,940 --> 01:37:58,600 came in with 500 bucks. No, no, no, nothing about anything. And 1764 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,240 so we give him a double up. Karma, you've 1765 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:00,720 Unknown: got 1766 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,260 Adam Curry: karma. Ronald, sorry. Roland, Schneider 1767 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:12,120 Granger, Texas, $500 and he says, Commodore, SX 64 of Lake 1768 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,020 Granger purchased SX 64 when I was a teenager with money earned 1769 01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:20,100 from agricultural labor, countless hours of basic fun. 1770 01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,600 Shout out down south to the fishermen in CC, keep up the 1771 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,760 good work. Got it. Thank 1772 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:35,240 John C Dvorak: you. Game Bay Area, wildfire, yes, forest 1773 01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,060 management. People get into that Gilroy. She's in Gilroy, 1774 01:38:38,060 --> 01:38:42,220 California, and she came in with another 500 bucks, and she is 1775 01:38:43,780 --> 01:38:48,940 saying, Your Bay Area, wire wildfire, you guys are the best 1776 01:38:49,660 --> 01:38:54,400 stuck in us. Shout out to my great friends, Kristen and Nikki 1777 01:38:54,460 --> 01:38:58,240 or Nick. Nick to another four more years. Four more years. 1778 01:39:00,580 --> 01:39:05,220 Adam Curry: Mark alcoser Alco, sir, I think Houston, Texas, 500 1779 01:39:06,060 --> 01:39:10,020 late. Congrats for 1700 shows and happy early 17th 1780 01:39:10,020 --> 01:39:12,360 anniversary. Jobs karma, please. Jobs, 1781 01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:15,120 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. 1782 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:25,400 John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Silver Spring, Maryland, 500 and 1783 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,540 all he or she says is Commodore anonymous. 1784 01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:33,260 Adam Curry: All right, Commodore anonymous, all right. Go to no 1785 01:39:33,260 --> 01:39:35,960 agenda rings calm and fill it out. Make sure we get your 1786 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,680 address and you'll be Commodore anonymous. Steve banstra from 1787 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,520 Nashville, Tennessee, who doesn't know Steve $500 he says, 1788 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,340 Now, when I'm at a dinner party and someone tells me that they 1789 01:39:45,340 --> 01:39:49,300 went to Vanderbilt, I can tell them I'm a Commodore anchored 1790 01:39:49,300 --> 01:39:53,260 down Steve banter, Baron of BNA, 1791 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,920 John C Dvorak: another anonymous comes in with $500 and says to. 1792 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,620 Four more years. Four more 1793 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:07,020 Adam Curry: years. Colin McLane Argyle, Texas, 333, he says, 1794 01:40:07,020 --> 01:40:10,740 Rogan, donation, donation. And please deduce me. 1795 01:40:12,420 --> 01:40:14,220 Unknown: You've been deduced. 1796 01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,920 John C Dvorak: Eli the coffee guy, yeah, in bensonville, 1797 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:25,820 Illinois, 210, 10, and he says, I'd like to wish my wife, 1798 01:40:25,820 --> 01:40:28,220 Jennifer, a happy anniversary. Thank you for joining me on this 1799 01:40:28,220 --> 01:40:31,940 journey called life. You're an amazing wife, a mother and a 1800 01:40:31,940 --> 01:40:34,760 business partner. I'm true and a good designer, by the way, I 1801 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,000 give her credit for that. She designed the packaging. Oh, I'm 1802 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:41,920 truly a lucky man. Can I get which saves money, by the way, 1803 01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,040 yes, it does. Money saver. 1804 01:40:45,220 --> 01:40:45,940 Unknown: That's good. Can 1805 01:40:45,940 --> 01:40:48,100 John C Dvorak: I get a boogity? Boogity, boogity. Amen. And for 1806 01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:51,100 producers who want to support a true mom and pop up small 1807 01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:54,160 business, please get great coffee and visit Giga wrote Giga 1808 01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:59,260 roast, gigawatt Coffee roasters.com and use code ITM 20 1809 01:40:59,260 --> 01:41:02,700 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee 1810 01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:03,060 guy, 1811 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,000 Adam Curry: all right, we move on to ZEV green in Teaneck, New 1812 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,180 Jersey, $200 Associate Executive producership for you. He says, 1813 01:41:18,180 --> 01:41:21,260 Dear no agenda family, I'm excited to announce that I've 1814 01:41:21,260 --> 01:41:24,680 crossed the $1,000 mark and my sustainable donations have 1815 01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:28,520 finally paid off. My whole family listens to every show, 1816 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,040 yes, even the donation segments. Well, of course, that's where 1817 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,640 all the good stuff is. As a technologist who travels 1818 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,700 internationally for work, I catch each episode as soon as my 1819 01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:43,780 podcasting 2.0 app alerts me, but at two times speed, the show 1820 01:41:43,780 --> 01:41:45,220 always feels too short. 1821 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:47,560 Unknown: Okay, 1822 01:41:48,940 --> 01:41:51,100 Adam Curry: your life will also be shortened by doing that. 1823 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:55,360 That's just me. Thankfully, no, thankfully, I'm launching my 1824 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,200 third financial mobile app. So please send some karma my way. 1825 01:41:59,380 --> 01:42:03,420 Also, I'm donating an additional $200 in honor of my 49th trip 1826 01:42:03,420 --> 01:42:07,020 around the sun on Friday the 11th. Please Knight me as sir 1827 01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:11,760 ZEV mo protector of the digital wallet for my round table, Neil, 1828 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,320 I like to have potato Kugel, more Jew food, he says. And for 1829 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:22,340 drink kombucha. For jingles I'd love to hear not a fan of the 1830 01:42:22,340 --> 01:42:26,060 kombucha for jingles, I'd like to hear biscuit for my birthday. 1831 01:42:26,060 --> 01:42:29,000 Adam's favorite Reverend Al clip and a deducing. Thank you for 1832 01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:33,080 your courage. Best from ZEV Moe, green Teaneck, New Jersey. PS, 1833 01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,680 Adam, every time you speak with a Dutch accent, it reminds me of 1834 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:41,200 my Van Van apron. Family originally from Nord problem, it 1835 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,520 always brings a smile to my face. Val, isn't that great? I'm 1836 01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:46,180 so happy 1837 01:42:46,180 --> 01:42:48,520 Unknown: for you. They always give me a biscuit on my 1838 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:49,720 birthday. The GOP 1839 01:42:49,780 --> 01:42:54,400 infighting is escalating. Political says Democrats are 1840 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,780 outright jitty happy to watch the GOP approach. 1841 01:43:00,460 --> 01:43:02,220 You've been deduced. 1842 01:43:05,220 --> 01:43:10,440 John C Dvorak: Unbelievable. Linda lupatkin is finishes up 1843 01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:13,920 our show, executive and Associate Executive Producer. 1844 01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,500 She's from Lakewood, Colorado, and she gives, comes in with 1845 01:43:16,500 --> 01:43:21,320 $200 and says, Oh, she wants jobs, karma, and says, For a 1846 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,020 resume that gets results, go to imagemakers. Inc.com, for all 1847 01:43:24,020 --> 01:43:26,900 your executive resume and job search needs, that's image 1848 01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:30,620 makers. Inc, with a K or find Linda Lou Duchess of jobs and 1849 01:43:30,620 --> 01:43:33,860 writer of resumes on the producer list, jobs, 1850 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,560 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. 1851 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:45,040 Adam Curry: You're so proud of yourself. I finally did it one 1852 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,680 in a million. Hey, there you go. Thank you to our executive and 1853 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,560 Associate Executive producers. We will thank the rest of our 1854 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,980 producers in our second segment, we appreciate what you do. Thank 1855 01:43:53,980 --> 01:43:57,100 you for your treasure. Part of the time, talent and treasure, 1856 01:43:57,220 --> 01:43:59,620 remember these credits are real. You can use them anywhere. 1857 01:43:59,620 --> 01:44:02,520 Credits are recognized, that includes imdb.com thank you 1858 01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,440 again for producing episode 17. 1859 01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,260 Unknown: Oh, my formula is this. 1860 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,980 We go out. We hit people in the mouth, shut up. 1861 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:29,000 Slay All 1862 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,560 Adam Curry: right, you had something you wanted to play. 1863 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:30,740 Yeah, 1864 01:44:30,740 --> 01:44:32,780 John C Dvorak: I want to do these clips. This is a an 1865 01:44:32,780 --> 01:44:38,720 example. These are a total of six clips. Oh, and it's they're 1866 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,980 different, though they're not just like one topic called Divi 1867 01:44:41,980 --> 01:44:46,240 depth. This is about the kind of dingbats that you have doing 1868 01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,900 reporting nowadays, and this is specific to NPR. Oh, well, 1869 01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,420 Adam Curry: like we haven't been paying attention to them today. 1870 01:44:52,420 --> 01:44:53,860 We've been giving them a lot of errors. 1871 01:44:53,860 --> 01:44:58,240 John C Dvorak: It's, yes, it's like NPR kind of a focus to 1872 01:44:58,780 --> 01:45:01,560 let's focus on crap. Be reporting. Let's start with this 1873 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:06,240 one. This is the first this dingbat report NPR on the this 1874 01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:10,380 is about the Honda. Honda's had a big recall. And then we get to 1875 01:45:10,380 --> 01:45:13,200 listen to, I don't know, this girl sounds like she's in the 1876 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:19,020 11th grade, maybe telling us all about the problem with the 1877 01:45:19,020 --> 01:45:21,020 steering mechanism on a Honda car. 1878 01:45:21,140 --> 01:45:24,800 Unknown: Honda is recalling more than 1.7 million vehicles 1879 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,980 because of a defect in the steering mechanism. Federal 1880 01:45:27,980 --> 01:45:31,640 regulators say the issue could increase the risk for crash and 1881 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,880 Paris Camila domino ski has details. The recall 1882 01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,020 includes the Acura Integra Honda CRV and the Civic family all 1883 01:45:39,020 --> 01:45:43,240 from model year 2022, or newer, Honda thinks about 1% of 1884 01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:47,560 recalled cars actually have the faulty part. It's a badly 1885 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,100 manufactured worm wheel, the part where the rotation from 1886 01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:55,600 turning the steering wheel turns into turning a gear to turn the 1887 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,320 wheels. Turns out that these defective worm wheels can swell. 1888 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,280 There's also a spring that's wound too tight, add it up, and 1889 01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,880 you might get an abnormal noise and a sticky feeling when you 1890 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:06,900 turn the steering wheel. 1891 01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,800 Adam Curry: Wow, how condescending is that. 1892 01:46:10,980 --> 01:46:13,980 John C Dvorak: So why do we even have a reporter reporting on 1893 01:46:13,980 --> 01:46:16,320 something that you can just read? The newsreader could have 1894 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:19,680 read that, but they do this a lot. I was looking at. In fact, 1895 01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,420 I went and looked it up on the NPR personnel. They have 1896 01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:27,440 hundreds and hundreds of people working there that just for this 1897 01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:31,160 purpose alone. That brings me to the second group of clips. This 1898 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:35,420 is the Sandia. It's about Sandia Labs, which she pronounces 1899 01:46:35,420 --> 01:46:36,200 Sandia. 1900 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,920 Adam Curry: I don't know why. What is Sandy sand Sandia Labs 1901 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:40,040 is 1902 01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:43,000 John C Dvorak: down in the Albuquerque area, and it's a 1903 01:46:43,480 --> 01:46:46,540 should again. She might maybe send Diaz the way it's 1904 01:46:46,540 --> 01:46:50,740 pronounced now, but this is a, this is one of those examples 1905 01:46:50,740 --> 01:46:53,020 we've talked about it before in the show where you have a 1906 01:46:53,020 --> 01:46:58,480 situation where you use the term spokesperson instead of 1907 01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:01,680 representative, because you want to make it clear that you're 1908 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:07,860 using non, you know, language a certain way. I believe NPR uses, 1909 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:12,600 uh, brings on presenters that are dei hires 1910 01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:16,800 Adam Curry: for their score, their ESG score, for 1911 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,040 John C Dvorak: their score and and for bragging rights. And 1912 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:24,500 they do it by they you could bring in somebody who's who can 1913 01:47:24,500 --> 01:47:27,980 do presentation well, and they'd be a dei hire, but if you're 1914 01:47:27,980 --> 01:47:31,340 listening on the right, you wouldn't notice it. So that's no 1915 01:47:31,340 --> 01:47:35,360 good. So let's bring on a woman that's got so much she's just a 1916 01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:39,440 lousy presenter. Can't she screeches when she talks. She's 1917 01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:42,160 got see. I don't know if she's black or Mexican or I don't. I 1918 01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,000 can't tell, but she's got a ghetto sound to her that that 1919 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:50,620 tells the listener, hey, I'm a dei hire. Get over it, and here 1920 01:47:50,620 --> 01:47:51,700 we go. Do you 1921 01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:55,780 Unknown: worry that an asteroid will slam into Earth and in all 1922 01:47:55,780 --> 01:48:02,280 life on this planet, perhaps scenes from movies like 1923 01:48:02,340 --> 01:48:06,120 Armageddon keep you up at night. We may have something to make 1924 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:13,440 your sleep a little better. Scientists may have discovered a 1925 01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:17,640 way to knock an incoming asteroid off course. And for 1926 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,380 anyone who ever wondered, why don't we just throw a bunch of 1927 01:48:21,380 --> 01:48:24,200 nuclear missiles at it? Well, you're kind of 1928 01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,200 right. So it's a little bit different concept, but we think 1929 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,640 it may even be more effective. 1930 01:48:28,820 --> 01:48:32,060 Nathan Moore led a team of physicists at the Sandia 1931 01:48:32,060 --> 01:48:34,820 National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico. 1932 01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,760 Adam Curry: All right, here's how the meeting went. Hey guys, 1933 01:48:38,300 --> 01:48:41,980 I think we really we've had some issues with with a younger 1934 01:48:41,980 --> 01:48:45,580 audience listening to NPR. We need to hip it up a little bit. 1935 01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:50,140 I want some sound effects. I want, you know, a young, young 1936 01:48:50,140 --> 01:48:54,640 voices, multicultural voices, and let's just be a little bit 1937 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,220 looser with the scripts. Yeah, that'll do it. 1938 01:48:59,020 --> 01:49:01,260 John C Dvorak: Do you that would be the meeting? Sorry. Well, I'm 1939 01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:04,020 sorry that would be the meeting now. I now the problem is 1940 01:49:04,020 --> 01:49:09,240 reporting here is, which brings me to the last couple of clips 1941 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:10,080 coming up. Didn't 1942 01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,820 Adam Curry: we always do this? By the way, do we already? 1943 01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:16,860 Didn't already throw, like, crash something into a asteroid? 1944 01:49:17,340 --> 01:49:17,580 Well, 1945 01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:19,680 John C Dvorak: yeah, but that was the landed to steal 1946 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:23,540 something from it, I meant this difference. And the thing is, is 1947 01:49:23,540 --> 01:49:28,880 that they're going to tell us something that it makes no sense 1948 01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,000 and it's never explained. And this is what, what the galling 1949 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,460 part is, besides her voice, here we go. 1950 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,520 Unknown: The Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New 1951 01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:41,560 Mexico, they have discovered you just need to set off a nuclear 1952 01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:46,600 explosion near an asteroid, and the burst of X rays will send it 1953 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:51,280 safely off target. The idea has been around for decades, but the 1954 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,220 only way to test it is with the nuclear weapon, and 1955 01:49:54,220 --> 01:49:58,060 those are difficult to come by, so we invented a laboratory 1956 01:49:58,060 --> 01:50:01,620 experiment where we could test this idea. Him to generate an 1957 01:50:01,620 --> 01:50:06,000 incredibly strong burst of X rays in the laboratory. His team 1958 01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:10,320 used magnetic fields to produce these X rays and recorded their 1959 01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:15,240 effects on two mock asteroids roughly the size of tic tacs. 1960 01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:18,540 Not only does it work, but it works better than we thought, 1961 01:50:18,660 --> 01:50:19,140 and 1962 01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:23,780 on any size asteroid. But Nathan Moore cautions that all 1963 01:50:23,780 --> 01:50:25,820 asteroids are not alike. Asteroids 1964 01:50:25,820 --> 01:50:28,460 come in many different flavors. They're made of many different 1965 01:50:28,460 --> 01:50:31,820 types of rocks. We've only done a test on one type of mineral, 1966 01:50:31,940 --> 01:50:36,500 so it will be important to test this idea on different minerals 1967 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:40,660 in our laboratory experiments to develop a full understanding of 1968 01:50:40,660 --> 01:50:42,940 how we would deal with every type of asteroid, 1969 01:50:43,060 --> 01:50:46,120 but it's good to know we humans have options that those 1970 01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:50,320 dinosaurs didn't when it comes to asteroids or when they come 1971 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:51,040 to us. 1972 01:50:51,220 --> 01:50:55,000 It's certainly reassuring to know that if we are surprised by 1973 01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:59,560 either a large asteroid or one that shows up with very little 1974 01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,060 warning, if it needs a hard shove, we have a way to deal 1975 01:51:03,060 --> 01:51:04,500 with it. Bruce Willis, 1976 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,500 thank you for your service. Oh, 1977 01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:12,600 Adam Curry: my goodness, I'm surprised he didn't say Axelrod. 1978 01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,820 John C Dvorak: The worst part about this report is not even 1979 01:51:17,820 --> 01:51:25,700 her. It's how do X rays, which have, no matter push anything I 1980 01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:28,940 would. I'm sure that maybe it does. They do, but I don't know 1981 01:51:28,940 --> 01:51:31,520 how it does. I mean, when I have an x ray, I'm not thrown back 1982 01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:38,780 against the table. It's like so there's no explanation for how 1983 01:51:38,780 --> 01:51:40,540 this X ray also 1984 01:51:40,540 --> 01:51:45,280 Adam Curry: rude. Bruce Willis is, is a vegetable. It's rude. 1985 01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:45,760 Is, and 1986 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,520 John C Dvorak: then the Bruce Willis reference is like with 1987 01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:48,760 Bon 1988 01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:50,080 Adam Curry: Jovi music, 1989 01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:51,220 John C Dvorak: that's rude. 1990 01:51:51,340 --> 01:51:54,700 Adam Curry: I agree. This is peace NPR, right here. It's 1991 01:51:54,700 --> 01:51:58,060 over. That's it's enjoy. Finally, 1992 01:51:59,260 --> 01:52:03,180 John C Dvorak: it exemplifies the crap that they produce. And 1993 01:52:03,180 --> 01:52:06,540 it's also not explanatory. It used to be educational. You 1994 01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:09,540 should learn something, you learn nothing. So here we go to 1995 01:52:09,540 --> 01:52:13,260 this second group. Now this is all the same. This is about more 1996 01:52:13,260 --> 01:52:19,500 science led pipes. And I want to this is about this has got so 1997 01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:23,060 much lack of information. There's no real reporting. It's 1998 01:52:23,060 --> 01:52:27,860 just as let's get rid of lead pipes. They they never explain 1999 01:52:28,460 --> 01:52:33,380 as we go along, I'll try to throw in what might be going on 2000 01:52:33,380 --> 01:52:36,080 because I have, because I would like it Wait, 2001 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,480 Adam Curry: didn't you? Used to be a lead pipe inspector, no. 2002 01:52:40,540 --> 01:52:44,200 John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, and so I would say that there is lead 2003 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:49,720 pipes inch. There's just information in here that is not 2004 01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:50,680 explained. 2005 01:52:50,860 --> 01:52:54,160 Unknown: Let's go. There are some 9 million homes across the 2006 01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:55,780 US getting water through lead 2007 01:52:55,780 --> 01:52:59,020 pipes, and now the Environmental Protection Agency says those 2008 01:52:59,020 --> 01:53:00,900 pipes need to come out. The science 2009 01:53:00,900 --> 01:53:04,980 has been clear for decades. There is no safe level of lead 2010 01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:06,060 in our drinking water. 2011 01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,700 That's EPA Administrator Michael Regan. 2012 01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:09,480 He says lead 2013 01:53:09,480 --> 01:53:11,820 is harmful, especially to children. And VRS 2014 01:53:11,820 --> 01:53:14,400 ping Huang has been following the story, and she joins us now, 2015 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:18,180 hi, ping. Okay, so I gotta admit, I was kind of surprised 2016 01:53:18,180 --> 01:53:21,800 this wasn't already a rule. What is the Epta saying about it? 2017 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,160 Yeah, you would think, right. I mean, it's definitely something 2018 01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,980 that water advocates have been fighting for for many, many 2019 01:53:27,980 --> 01:53:31,640 years now. And the main thing about this rule is that, for the 2020 01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:35,120 first time on the federal level, it requires most water systems 2021 01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:39,080 to replace all their lead pipes within 10 years. Now, Leila, 2022 01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,740 this is a problem with a long history, but it got a lot of 2023 01:53:41,740 --> 01:53:44,620 attention 10 years ago with the Flint water crisis in Michigan. 2024 01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:48,100 And there, there was a change in the water chemistry that caused 2025 01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:51,040 old pipes to leach high amounts of lead into the drinking water. 2026 01:53:51,460 --> 01:53:54,100 And since then, some cities and states have actually already 2027 01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:57,040 been swapping out those lead pipes for copper. Okay. 2028 01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,440 John C Dvorak: What did she say at the end 2029 01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:04,860 Adam Curry: happen. I don't know what she said, and they're just 2030 01:54:04,860 --> 01:54:06,000 filling air time 2031 01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:08,880 John C Dvorak: to play the little end part again and tell 2032 01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,340 me what she said, word by word. Crisis in 2033 01:54:11,340 --> 01:54:14,340 Unknown: Michigan. And there, there was a change in the water 2034 01:54:14,340 --> 01:54:15,240 chemistry. There, there 2035 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,180 Adam Curry: was a change in the water chemistry. Wait, wait, 2036 01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:19,740 wait, I'm listening to 2037 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,920 Unknown: each high amounts of lead into the drinking water. 2038 01:54:21,980 --> 01:54:25,940 That's the tiny legs into the drinking water. Some cities and 2039 01:54:25,940 --> 01:54:28,100 states have actually already been swapping out those lead 2040 01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:29,900 pipes for copper. Okay, 2041 01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,300 Adam Curry: that last bit I could not decode. Let me listen 2042 01:54:32,300 --> 01:54:33,680 again. And 2043 01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,720 Unknown: some cities and states have actually already been 2044 01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,400 swapping out those lead pipes for copper. 2045 01:54:38,540 --> 01:54:40,480 Adam Curry: Well, some states have been a lot the selected 2046 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:41,260 lapping hopper. 2047 01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,540 John C Dvorak: I could I listen to this 10 times that I couldn't 2048 01:54:46,540 --> 01:54:47,980 figure out what she said, the 2049 01:54:47,980 --> 01:54:50,860 Adam Curry: leech and lop and slopping hopper. Let me just 2050 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,820 slapping swapping out the swapping out the lead for 2051 01:54:54,820 --> 01:54:55,900 copper. How about that? 2052 01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:58,360 Unknown: And since then, some cities and states have actually 2053 01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,620 already been swapping out those lead pipes. Hopper, they've been 2054 01:55:01,620 --> 01:55:04,620 Adam Curry: slopping out the slopping out the headphones for 2055 01:55:04,620 --> 01:55:09,240 copper. She said, Hopper, yeah, how can we? We don't get gigs 2056 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,060 like this. This is a great gig. I wanted to slop and Hopper, 2057 01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:12,840 okay, 2058 01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:16,320 John C Dvorak: so let's right away. We introduced it turns 2059 01:55:16,980 --> 01:55:20,220 out, besides that last bit, which is, I had to stop it 2060 01:55:20,220 --> 01:55:23,300 there, because it's like, what did, I still don't know what she 2061 01:55:23,300 --> 01:55:28,340 said, lappa, Hopper, slop and hopper. So we got, let 2062 01:55:28,340 --> 01:55:32,480 everybody's got lead pipes show title, slop and Hopper, slop and 2063 01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:37,820 hopper. So everyone's got, there's lead pipes are 2064 01:55:37,820 --> 01:55:40,220 everywhere. But in Flint, Michigan, it caused a problem, 2065 01:55:40,220 --> 01:55:43,000 and everyone got poisoned, and they made a big fuss about it, 2066 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,560 because of the water chemistry. Yeah. What water chemistry? What 2067 01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,800 water chemistry? What changed in Flint that all of a sudden 2068 01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:53,920 everyone got lead poisoning when there's lead pipes. It turns out 2069 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:55,480 the whole country is filled with them, 2070 01:55:55,540 --> 01:55:58,000 Adam Curry: slop and hopper. So 2071 01:55:59,020 --> 01:56:03,000 John C Dvorak: what? What do? We didn't distant. Tell me 2072 01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,100 anything. All I know is, if there's lead pipes everywhere, 2073 01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:09,120 and they've been here forever and and I also know that 2074 01:56:09,180 --> 01:56:16,560 elemental lead, elemental lead, is not toxic. Even lick lead, 2075 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,860 it's not going to do anything. It's the lead salts. 2076 01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,580 Adam Curry: Ah, are you getting all that? Are talks getting all 2077 01:56:22,580 --> 01:56:23,720 chemistry on me now, 2078 01:56:25,340 --> 01:56:27,920 John C Dvorak: but they never talk about any of that. Let's go 2079 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,740 with clip to a word they where they still tell us nothing, 2080 01:56:30,860 --> 01:56:33,140 Unknown: right? It was clear, even back then that it wasn't 2081 01:56:33,140 --> 01:56:36,260 just a problem in Flint. Are there parts of the country that 2082 01:56:36,260 --> 01:56:38,420 are more likely to rely on lead pipes? 2083 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,580 Yeah, places with homes that were built before 1986 that's 2084 01:56:42,580 --> 01:56:45,340 the year that Congress banned lead pipes, but the ones that 2085 01:56:45,340 --> 01:56:48,160 were already in the ground were allowed to stay there until now. 2086 01:56:48,220 --> 01:56:51,580 So there are lead pipes in every state, but some have more than 2087 01:56:51,580 --> 01:56:55,960 others. Those include Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New 2088 01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,480 York and New Jersey. All of those states have over half a 2089 01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,600 million lead pipes. Wow. So 2090 01:57:00,660 --> 01:57:02,880 that's a lot of pipes. They're gonna have to replace all those 2091 01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:03,660 in 10 years. 2092 01:57:03,780 --> 01:57:07,200 Wow. Yeah, it is a lot of pipes, and for the most part, they will 2093 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,900 have to but there are some interesting exceptions. So 2094 01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:13,260 Chicago, for instance, has the most lead pipes out of any city, 2095 01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:17,460 around 400,000 in Chicago alone, and that's because they actually 2096 01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:20,960 required lead pipes there until they were banned. So when this 2097 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,080 rule was first proposed, Chicago got a pretty big exemption, 2098 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:27,200 something like 40 to 50 years to replace all their pipes because 2099 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:30,500 they just had too many of them. And a lot of advocates pushed 2100 01:57:30,500 --> 01:57:33,440 back on that. They said it's way too long. That's generations 2101 01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:37,040 more people growing up with lead pipes. So in the final rule, the 2102 01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,100 EPA has tightened that up now, instead of 40 years, they have 2103 01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:41,200 more like 20 to 25 2104 01:57:43,060 --> 01:57:45,760 Adam Curry: Okay, so a couple things I learned here. One, no 2105 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:49,840 wonder Chicago is retarded is because they're all drinking 2106 01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,980 lead. And the other thing I got from net Ned, he says Detroit 2107 01:57:53,980 --> 01:57:57,640 water was used until Detroit kicked them off for not paying 2108 01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:02,040 their bill, and Flint switched to a mothballed water treatment 2109 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:06,240 plant from the Flint River that was really polluted, just as an 2110 01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,520 aside, and we do better than NPR. 2111 01:58:09,660 --> 01:58:12,900 John C Dvorak: Well, another thing the question that comes to 2112 01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:17,760 mind when I heard that clip was, why did Chicago demand the lead 2113 01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:19,440 pipes in the first place 2114 01:58:19,620 --> 01:58:21,500 Adam Curry: so that the Democrats could keep winning 2115 01:58:21,500 --> 01:58:22,220 elections. 2116 01:58:24,380 --> 01:58:27,080 John C Dvorak: Well, that's an interesting theory, but it's 2117 01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:30,380 like that. Why don't they tell us anything? They there's, this 2118 01:58:30,380 --> 01:58:34,580 is a fact free Science Report. They're, they're telling us 2119 01:58:34,580 --> 01:58:39,140 nothing, no. And, for example, what is going on that causes the 2120 01:58:39,140 --> 01:58:41,620 let and even with the Flint, Michigan thing. I still don't 2121 01:58:41,620 --> 01:58:45,220 know what the chemistry is. Now I have some ideas. It's possible 2122 01:58:45,220 --> 01:58:49,240 that, for example, you can get lead chloride. If you chlorinate 2123 01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:51,460 the water and run it through lead pipes, you might get some, 2124 01:58:51,460 --> 01:58:55,180 some, some, some lead chloride through to the drinking water. I 2125 01:58:55,180 --> 01:58:59,560 mean, that's one possibility. If you look do any research at all, 2126 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:04,440 and they don't talk about this. If you have hard water, it coats 2127 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,980 the inside of the lead pipe. So the likelihood of toxic toxicity 2128 01:59:07,980 --> 01:59:10,800 is zero because there's a coating. You know, anyone who 2129 01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,800 has hard water knows what the problem is. It just calcium and 2130 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:17,220 manganese just coat everything. And so it makes the pipe 2131 01:59:17,220 --> 01:59:22,160 smaller, but it protects it, and that's not discussed. And then 2132 01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,740 the sleeving thing, which is what most people do in these 2133 01:59:24,740 --> 01:59:27,320 some of these areas, you run plastic sleeves through the 2134 01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,680 copper pipe, and then you just run the water through that, and 2135 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,380 that solves the problem immediately. And then there's 2136 01:59:33,380 --> 01:59:36,260 also solder joints they don't talk about, which would leeches 2137 01:59:36,260 --> 01:59:37,280 through even when copper 2138 01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:39,800 Adam Curry: pipe. How come I didn't call you for this Science 2139 01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:40,540 Report. Could 2140 01:59:40,540 --> 01:59:41,980 John C Dvorak: have called anybody 2141 01:59:41,980 --> 01:59:43,540 Unknown: Shut up already. 2142 01:59:44,260 --> 01:59:47,260 Adam Curry: Science, yeah, science, be quiet. 2143 01:59:47,500 --> 01:59:51,580 John C Dvorak: So they continue with the non factual reporting 2144 01:59:51,580 --> 01:59:53,200 with the next clip. In touch 2145 01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,960 Unknown: with Brenda Santoyo, and she's a water justice 2146 01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:57,520 advocate in Chicago, water 2147 01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,920 Adam Curry: justice advocate. Nah. 2148 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:02,700 John C Dvorak: Wow. Hey, water justice, that 2149 02:00:02,700 --> 02:00:06,300 Adam Curry: should be our next promotion. We can give out water 2150 02:00:06,300 --> 02:00:09,360 justice advocate diplomas. 2151 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:10,560 Unknown: Okay, 2152 02:00:10,620 --> 02:00:15,240 Adam Curry: yeah, what? I have a, W, J, a in Detroit. It's 2153 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:18,840 Unknown: definitely progress. I think that, like the city, the 2154 02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,320 state, should take, like their own measures to 2155 02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:22,700 try to speed up that process as 2156 02:00:22,700 --> 02:00:23,720 much as it can. 2157 02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:27,440 We also don't want our water systems to be set up for 2158 02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:29,780 failure, for them to take shortcuts. 2159 02:00:30,260 --> 02:00:33,020 Yeah. She says that the timeline seems reasonable, so long as 2160 02:00:33,020 --> 02:00:35,540 families are able to protect themselves in the meantime. 2161 02:00:35,540 --> 02:00:35,840 Yeah. I 2162 02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:38,960 mean, even 10 more years seems like a long time to be drinking 2163 02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,620 water that might have lead in it. So what can families do to 2164 02:00:41,620 --> 02:00:43,720 protect themselves? Yeah, well, step one 2165 02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:46,480 is figuring out whether they have a lead service line. The 2166 02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:48,880 service line is the pipe that brings tap water into your 2167 02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,940 house, and that would be the most likely culprit. If you can 2168 02:00:51,940 --> 02:00:54,940 see that line, you can scratch it with a coin. Try a magnet on 2169 02:00:54,940 --> 02:00:57,580 it. There's some guidance online that can help you figure out if 2170 02:00:57,580 --> 02:01:01,020 it's made of lead, copper or coated steel. And in case you're 2171 02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:03,360 wondering if it's easy to scratch and a magnet does not 2172 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,940 stick to it, those are some of the signs that it could be lead. 2173 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:09,060 They can also test their water for lead. There are some water 2174 02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:11,640 districts out there that offer free water testing so they can 2175 02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:15,240 check for that. And here's the thing, even if there is lead in 2176 02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:18,720 the water, common home filters can take them out. So pitcher 2177 02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:22,160 filters, faucet filters that are certified to remove lead. All 2178 02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,620 these are really great solutions, until the lead pipes 2179 02:01:24,620 --> 02:01:26,060 themselves get eliminated. I am 2180 02:01:26,060 --> 02:01:29,180 Adam Curry: very close to banning NPR science reports on 2181 02:01:29,180 --> 02:01:33,440 this show. I'm very, very, very close to it. This is bad. This 2182 02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:34,340 is very bad. 2183 02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:37,580 John C Dvorak: You have to remember that NPR our national 2184 02:01:37,580 --> 02:01:41,260 treasure, and all these, these public radio station began as 2185 02:01:41,260 --> 02:01:45,100 educational stations where the where you should learn 2186 02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:49,660 something, you learn nothing from these people. There's no 2187 02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:54,220 explanation for anything. It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, 2188 02:01:54,340 --> 02:01:56,320 blah. Lead is bad. 2189 02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:03,000 Adam Curry: Yeah, that we could have summed up that whole report 2190 02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:06,420 with what you just said there. Blah blah blah. Lead is bad, 2191 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:15,900 blah blah blah, all right, thank you for this science moment. 2192 02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:24,680 You're welcome. I would like to move to Israel and Iran and 2193 02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:27,320 what's happening. I have a couple of clips, and I have some 2194 02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:29,960 analysis that I would like to share with the group. We start 2195 02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:34,400 first with Biden and Netanyahu. Finally speaking, 2196 02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,800 Unknown: President Biden today spoke with Israeli Prime 2197 02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,620 Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The White House called their 2198 02:02:39,620 --> 02:02:43,540 conversation direct and productive. However, one of the 2199 02:02:43,540 --> 02:02:47,860 big questions that remains is, how will Israel respond to the 2200 02:02:47,860 --> 02:02:52,360 Iranian missile attack, and when Israel's defense minister warns 2201 02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:56,500 it will be precise and deadly? Amish news reporter Josh einer 2202 02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,020 is live in Tel Aviv tonight with the story 2203 02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:02,700 well as precise and deadly, he said, But he added, and above 2204 02:03:02,700 --> 02:03:06,960 all, surprising they meaning the Iranians, he added, will not 2205 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:10,740 understand what happened and how. But as you point out, the 2206 02:03:10,740 --> 02:03:15,360 big question is when and if the Israelis have decided that they 2207 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:18,780 aren't saying tonight, one year after President Biden came to 2208 02:03:18,780 --> 02:03:21,740 Israel and wrapped Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and 2209 02:03:21,740 --> 02:03:25,280 a bear hug, the two leaders have seen their relationship sour. 2210 02:03:25,580 --> 02:03:31,520 Netanyahu prosecution of the war in Gaza and now Lebanon, but 2211 02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:34,880 eight days after nearly 200 Iranian missiles filled the 2212 02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,600 Israeli skies, Netanyahu and Biden today spoke on the phone 2213 02:03:38,660 --> 02:03:41,080 to discuss Israel's plans to retaliate. 2214 02:03:41,140 --> 02:03:44,860 The US and the Israeli government have been discussing. 2215 02:03:44,860 --> 02:03:47,380 Have had discussion since last week 2216 02:03:47,860 --> 02:03:48,580 after, 2217 02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:52,720 certainly since after the Iran attack, and so that those 2218 02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:56,260 discussions continued with the President and the Prime 2219 02:03:56,260 --> 02:03:57,160 Minister, the 2220 02:03:57,160 --> 02:03:59,980 White House has been trying to convince Netanyahu to choose 2221 02:03:59,980 --> 02:04:03,960 conventional military targets, and not Iran's oil industry or 2222 02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:07,140 nuclear program. And it all comes at the holiest time of the 2223 02:04:07,140 --> 02:04:10,800 year in this holy land. Will they try to do something before 2224 02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:12,900 the end of the week? Because at the end of the week is the 2225 02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:16,020 holiest day on the Jewish calendar, Yom Kippur, the Day of 2226 02:04:16,020 --> 02:04:19,560 Atonement. And at this time, there is so much uncertainty 2227 02:04:19,740 --> 02:04:21,740 about what's to come. Now 2228 02:04:21,740 --> 02:04:25,760 Adam Curry: I ask you, in the world of cyclical happenings, 2229 02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:32,300 wouldn't a second Yom Kippur war be perfect? Oh, just in the just 2230 02:04:32,300 --> 02:04:34,880 in the cyclical nature of things, and I'll come back, 2231 02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,760 John C Dvorak: interesting idea. Just even think 2232 02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:41,140 Adam Curry: of that. Just a thought. Now we go to NPR, and 2233 02:04:41,380 --> 02:04:45,400 let's just get a little update, short one from from NPR. There's 2234 02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,040 Unknown: a lot of speculation over whether Israel will respond 2235 02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,020 and what would be its targets. 2236 02:04:51,220 --> 02:04:54,820 Iranian foreign minister Abbas energy, in this video by AP 2237 02:04:54,820 --> 02:04:58,000 news, warned Israel not to test his country's resolve by 2238 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,140 launching an attack, saying Iran. His response would be more 2239 02:05:01,140 --> 02:05:04,200 powerful than last week's ballistic missile attack. That 2240 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:07,080 was in response to Israel's killing of top Hezbollah and 2241 02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:11,160 Hamas leaders. Ergy said Tehran stands fully behind its so 2242 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,760 called Axis of Resistance, which includes Hezbollah and Hamas, 2243 02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,820 and that he would soon be traveling to Saudi Arabia and 2244 02:05:17,820 --> 02:05:21,020 other regional countries to discuss Israel's offensives in 2245 02:05:21,020 --> 02:05:24,260 Gaza and Lebanon. There's intense debate here in Israel 2246 02:05:24,260 --> 02:05:28,040 about the scale and target of a potential attack on Iran. Many 2247 02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:31,040 experts believe it could be against its energy sector. 2248 02:05:31,340 --> 02:05:33,800 Adam Curry: Okay, so bear that in mind, and he's also going to 2249 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:37,340 be roaming around talking to people now we go to our retired 2250 02:05:37,340 --> 02:05:41,260 generals, and the first one coming right out of retirement, 2251 02:05:41,260 --> 02:05:46,720 known for his seven count, the famous Wes Clark seven is, in 2252 02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:51,460 fact, General Wesley Clark, and he's going to lay it all out for 2253 02:05:51,460 --> 02:05:51,700 us. 2254 02:05:51,700 --> 02:05:54,100 Unknown: Do you believe Bibi Netanyahu will pull the trigger 2255 02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:54,760 on Iran? 2256 02:05:54,940 --> 02:05:58,600 I certainly do, and I believe he should all the tragedy and 2257 02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:01,620 Hamas, all that's going on with Hezbollah is traceable to the 2258 02:06:01,620 --> 02:06:06,060 source, and that's Iran. And so this is the moment, and this is 2259 02:06:06,540 --> 02:06:12,060 the situation in which Israel has to strike and strike hard at 2260 02:06:12,060 --> 02:06:12,540 Iran. 2261 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,300 Adam Curry: Guys. Hey, it's number seven on the list. We got 2262 02:06:15,300 --> 02:06:18,240 this the final one. We got to complete my West Clark seven. 2263 02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:18,420 What 2264 02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:21,020 Unknown: do you make of the move by Emmanuel Macron to withhold 2265 02:06:21,020 --> 02:06:21,620 weapons. 2266 02:06:22,220 --> 02:06:25,940 Well, I think he's responding probably to domestic pressure in 2267 02:06:25,940 --> 02:06:30,500 France, but it's a certainly misguided effort. If he wants to 2268 02:06:30,500 --> 02:06:33,320 make a difference, he should endeavor to have religious 2269 02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:37,520 leaders in France call together common a bring common aid in 2270 02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:40,960 Jerusalem, have the pope there tell common aid to renounce his 2271 02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:44,920 claims, his efforts to destroy Israel and kill all its people. 2272 02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:48,280 Adam Curry: I love. I love this. First of all, I like they. Says 2273 02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:53,380 common a, common a, instead of Khomeini, he says common A. So 2274 02:06:53,440 --> 02:07:01,440 his idea is, get the Pope, bring the pope over, have common A and 2275 02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,980 the Pope, we got to do a photo op, common A, and we'll all 2276 02:07:04,980 --> 02:07:08,280 shake hands like a big Camp David though in Israel, and 2277 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,460 Khamenei and the Pope. And what it'll be good if you 2278 02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,520 Unknown: go to the source, that's the way you deal with 2279 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:19,260 this. And Iran is the source, and Khamenei is the key person. 2280 02:07:19,620 --> 02:07:19,860 One 2281 02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:22,520 more question for you. There have been some who say that if 2282 02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:26,900 Israel were to strike, particularly Iran's oil, that 2283 02:07:26,900 --> 02:07:31,520 this would spark world war three. Give us your perspective, 2284 02:07:31,580 --> 02:07:35,420 considering all the years you have as an experienced commander 2285 02:07:35,780 --> 02:07:37,760 Adam Curry: in ruining other countries in NATO, 2286 02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,260 Unknown: well, I don't think their strike on their oil is 2287 02:07:41,260 --> 02:07:45,220 going to spark world war three. I don't think World War Three is 2288 02:07:45,220 --> 02:07:48,940 in the offing right now, but I do say this Iran is on the verge 2289 02:07:48,940 --> 02:07:52,900 of having nuclear weapons. Maybe it has them. Now. It has those. 2290 02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:57,280 Everything's different. This regime in the in Iran, it has to 2291 02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,560 go now. I can change its tune. If it says okay to live with its 2292 02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:06,240 neighbors, fine if it continues to insist that its whole effort 2293 02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:10,500 is directed at the destruction of a neighboring state in the 2294 02:08:10,500 --> 02:08:14,640 21st century, that's not permitted. No. So this is a 2295 02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:20,540 moment for Israel to assert itself, to strike back and to 2296 02:08:20,540 --> 02:08:24,380 gain dominance in the region over Iran. So 2297 02:08:24,380 --> 02:08:27,800 Adam Curry: that sounds to me like regime change is what he's 2298 02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:30,560 saying here. We just have to change those guys. Everything 2299 02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,200 else is fine. It's not going to start world war three. No 2300 02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,160 proving once again, we have the best producers in the universe. 2301 02:08:37,700 --> 02:08:44,140 One of our producers was at an investor dinner. And I This must 2302 02:08:44,140 --> 02:08:47,560 have been pretty high end, because they brought in as a 2303 02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:54,700 dinner speaker, General Milley. And our producer gave me a big 2304 02:08:54,700 --> 02:08:58,240 Mike, Big Mike, General Mike, 2305 02:08:58,240 --> 02:08:59,140 John C Dvorak: the other big Mike, the 2306 02:08:59,140 --> 02:09:02,040 Adam Curry: other big Mike, gave me a little rundown of what he 2307 02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:05,520 said. Took notes, and I think it's it's worth sharing. History 2308 02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:11,100 is cyclical. He said, The Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 ended the 2309 02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:14,760 30 Years War and set the West up for 100 years of peace between 2310 02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:19,380 large powers broken by the Seven Years War, the French and Indian 2311 02:09:19,380 --> 02:09:23,300 War around 1750 then the constant state of war, until 2312 02:09:23,300 --> 02:09:27,440 Congress of Vienna established the Concert of Europe in 18, 2313 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:31,760 5015 then there was peace amongst large powers for 100 2314 02:09:32,180 --> 02:09:36,980 years, until World War One, from Fort to 1914 to 1945 with World 2315 02:09:36,980 --> 02:09:40,540 War Two, we are now 80 years into the current peace 2316 02:09:40,540 --> 02:09:45,220 established by rules based under imposed rules based order 2317 02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:49,240 imposed after World War Two. The next 20 years will be very 2318 02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:52,480 interesting. China, Russia and Iran have every incentive to 2319 02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:56,080 overthrow the rules based order that's governed the world since 2320 02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:59,560 the Americans came up with it in new in a New Hampshire hotel in 2321 02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:04,800 19. 44 he says that was Bretton Woods, China building the 2322 02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:09,120 military with an eye on seizing Taiwan. Xi says he wants to take 2323 02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:14,640 it by 2027 which would be the 100 year anniversary of the 2324 02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:19,200 People's Liberation Army. He says, maybe, but China lacks 2325 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,640 experience and may underestimate the difficulty of it important 2326 02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:26,480 that they continue to wonder if the US would intervene. Ah, 2327 02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:30,800 that's so we need to keep rattling the sabers. Gaza, 2328 02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:35,300 Israel is responding to this horrific attack. Imagine what we 2329 02:10:35,300 --> 02:10:38,960 do. They've been fairly successful with their strategic 2330 02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,800 goal of destroying Hamas about two thirds of the way there. 2331 02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:44,440 They haven't gotten all of their leadership yet, but it's coming 2332 02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:49,060 soon. Their challenge going forward is that they lack a 2333 02:10:49,060 --> 02:10:52,900 political message. All war is politics administered through 2334 02:10:52,900 --> 02:10:56,020 organized violence. That's a good statement. 2335 02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:57,400 John C Dvorak: I like that one. 2336 02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:00,100 Adam Curry: All wars politics administered through organized 2337 02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:02,580 violence, need an alternative path to sell it to the 2338 02:11:02,580 --> 02:11:05,280 Palestinians continued collateral damage, civilian 2339 02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:09,180 deaths makes it harder. It may require an Arab peace 2340 02:11:09,180 --> 02:11:13,320 enforcement troops, maybe from Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. 2341 02:11:13,740 --> 02:11:22,460 Notice, we have Netanyahu going on a little tour Iran. Israel 2342 02:11:22,460 --> 02:11:25,760 will hit Iran, but they'll probably wait until after the 2343 02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,820 High Holy Days conclude next week, probably a mix of 2344 02:11:28,820 --> 02:11:32,840 military, economic and symbolic targets. He said, Maybe I'm 2345 02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:37,400 wrong. They might go downtown either way. Going downtown 2346 02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:41,020 either way, it will be a strong message of, don't do that again, 2347 02:11:41,020 --> 02:11:44,200 but stopping short of delivering a devastating hit, neither 2348 02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:47,440 Israel nor Iran won a full direct war. But sometimes wars 2349 02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,720 happen even when they aren't wanted. Would the US get 2350 02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:53,020 involved? Well, the country is a third bigger than Iraq, with 2351 02:11:53,020 --> 02:11:56,020 bigger military, we could deal with it, but at a significant 2352 02:11:56,020 --> 02:12:01,560 cost, so unlikely. Nuclear now, they are only days or weeks away 2353 02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:06,540 from having enough uranium goo. However, Millie says it will 2354 02:12:06,540 --> 02:12:10,080 still take quite a period of time to package that into a 2355 02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:13,980 missile. So there's something, there's something different from 2356 02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:15,300 from Wesley Clark, 2357 02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:17,100 John C Dvorak: it's always a couple weeks away. Well, 2358 02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:20,420 Adam Curry: that's just for the goo. It'll take much longer to 2359 02:12:20,420 --> 02:12:21,920 package it into a missile? Yeah, they 2360 02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:26,060 John C Dvorak: keep changing the target supremely. I'm I'm going 2361 02:12:26,060 --> 02:12:32,960 with our thesis that this whole thing is a sham. I'm and the 2362 02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:36,860 fact that they've been talking about the nuke, the nuke being a 2363 02:12:36,860 --> 02:12:40,160 week away, a week away, a couple weeks away, four years, next 2364 02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:44,860 month, for a decade, years, decade. Is it possible that at 2365 02:12:44,860 --> 02:12:49,960 some point years ago they figured out they can't do this? 2366 02:12:50,380 --> 02:12:53,740 Maybe none of it works, and maybe none of it works. And so 2367 02:12:53,740 --> 02:12:56,320 they're going to say, well, let's, let's change our 2368 02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:59,560 policies, but we have to do this slowly. So let's get rid of 2369 02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:03,120 this, these terrorist groups, somehow we have to go in cahoots 2370 02:13:03,120 --> 02:13:05,940 with other people to do this, because we can't do it, because 2371 02:13:05,940 --> 02:13:08,880 it would make us look bad. We want to stay in power. And so 2372 02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:13,680 the whole, it's a whole thing is, is is a, is a, is a sham. 2373 02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,860 The common needs, because there's no evidence of the 2374 02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:21,020 contrary. And even if Israel sends a couple of missiles over 2375 02:13:21,020 --> 02:13:26,000 there gonna hit anything, no. And the 200 missiles that were 2376 02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,760 sent toward Israel, they didn't hit anything. They killed some 2377 02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:32,660 one of them, but the poor guy got hit by a fragment I sent you 2378 02:13:32,660 --> 02:13:37,460 that video. After the most disgusting thing, you wonder 2379 02:13:37,460 --> 02:13:42,940 whether it's real car two that's what I wonder about it. How does 2380 02:13:42,940 --> 02:13:45,220 Adam Curry: that even happen? How does that even happen? 2381 02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:49,420 Anyway, he goes on to about the future of warfare, which I think 2382 02:13:49,420 --> 02:13:53,260 is the final interesting point, the nature of war doesn't change 2383 02:13:53,260 --> 02:13:56,080 through history, but character of war does, tactics and 2384 02:13:56,080 --> 02:14:00,160 technology. Example, gun range increased from 70 yards to 400 2385 02:14:00,460 --> 02:14:03,300 yards between American Revolution and the Civil War. 2386 02:14:03,300 --> 02:14:06,360 Generals were slow to adapt to it, and it was a bloodbath in 2387 02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:10,260 World War Two, the Germans, Brits and French had had the 2388 02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:13,920 same new tank tech, radio comms and air support, but the Germans 2389 02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:16,800 came up with the best system, the panzer divisions, and 2390 02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:20,040 steamrolled Europe in 18 months, including a larger French army 2391 02:14:20,280 --> 02:14:25,880 looking ahead, 1/3 of the US military will be robots in 15 2392 02:14:25,940 --> 02:14:31,700 years, drone tanks, sailorless ships, more UAVs, etc. China and 2393 02:14:31,700 --> 02:14:35,420 Russia will try to do the same, armed robots, powered by here it 2394 02:14:35,420 --> 02:14:38,480 comes, AI and quantum computing will have you 2395 02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:42,460 John C Dvorak: said, quantum computing? Yes. Know what it is, 2396 02:14:42,460 --> 02:14:42,640 we'll 2397 02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:47,560 Adam Curry: have terrifying capabilities. This way goes off 2398 02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:50,260 the rails, yeah? So we don't need to invite General Milley 2399 02:14:50,260 --> 02:14:52,120 for our after dinner conversation. 2400 02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:54,580 John C Dvorak: He's like, he does have a historic he likes to 2401 02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:59,920 do his historic stuff, yeah, doing historic stuff. And. 2402 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,160 Analyzing it is hindsight doing foresight. He's got nothing he 2403 02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:09,900 can't rope into the future robot AI and quantum computing. Now, 2404 02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:13,320 Adam Curry: chum, I tell you, if you really want to know what is 2405 02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:18,180 happening in the future of warfare, we must look to the 2406 02:15:18,180 --> 02:15:24,800 NATO. And the NATO, as you know, is now run by our former prime 2407 02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:27,200 minister from the Netherlands, Mark. 2408 02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:32,840 Unknown: It's crucial for Ukraine to prevail, and we have 2409 02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:38,600 to afford that. Putin has his way with and in Ukraine, because 2410 02:15:38,600 --> 02:15:41,000 there's not only a problem for Ukraine, there's also a threat 2411 02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:43,240 to all of us here in the UK, 2412 02:15:44,260 --> 02:15:46,600 Adam Curry: everybody, everybody is threatened, huh? 2413 02:15:47,140 --> 02:15:51,340 John C Dvorak: I bought your accent, yes, because I listened 2414 02:15:51,340 --> 02:15:55,300 to this. I think you, you've got It's fabulous. I wish I could do 2415 02:15:55,300 --> 02:15:57,760 it, but there's a couple of things you might want to do. 2416 02:15:57,820 --> 02:16:05,040 Okay? One, they go a lot more than you do. Yes, okay. And the 2417 02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:11,040 other thing is, he changes his Ruta, he changes his cadence, he 2418 02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:14,880 talks at a certain speed, then he speeds up, and then he slows 2419 02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:18,180 down, and that little element you have yet to Cat capture. 2420 02:16:18,300 --> 02:16:20,100 Adam Curry: Oh, okay, I will 2421 02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:23,000 John C Dvorak: just do it. 2422 02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:24,740 Adam Curry: Very good in the future of us, 2423 02:16:24,740 --> 02:16:28,700 Unknown: here in the UK, all over NATO, including Canada and 2424 02:16:28,700 --> 02:16:32,780 the US. If Russia would be successful in Ukraine, it would 2425 02:16:32,780 --> 02:16:35,600 be a security threat to all of us. So we have to massively, 2426 02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:39,140 massively learn how to speak Russian. Continue what we are 2427 02:16:39,140 --> 02:16:43,420 doing first, and that is to put military aid into Ukraine. Yes, 2428 02:16:43,420 --> 02:16:47,800 some aid to make sure that we have enough training ready for 2429 02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:51,040 the soldiers, the brave soldiers from Ukraine. And 2430 02:16:52,540 --> 02:16:54,700 Adam Curry: we must have some training ready for the soldiers, 2431 02:16:54,700 --> 02:16:57,400 brave soldiers, brave very brave soldiers. 2432 02:16:57,640 --> 02:17:00,300 Unknown: The brave people were working there to the dead 2433 02:17:00,300 --> 02:17:03,300 people. You mean counter the Russian Russian onslaught. At 2434 02:17:03,300 --> 02:17:05,520 the same time, we have to implement what we agreed in 2435 02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,640 Washington during the summit. But particularly, this is the 2436 02:17:08,640 --> 02:17:10,680 command we are now setting up in Germany. 2437 02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:13,380 Adam Curry: Oh, command, oh, Germany is going to take all the 2438 02:17:13,380 --> 02:17:14,160 hits. Great. 2439 02:17:14,580 --> 02:17:17,400 Unknown: Basically, coordinate all the activities. Oh yes, 2440 02:17:17,640 --> 02:17:18,120 NATO. 2441 02:17:18,180 --> 02:17:21,080 Adam Curry: Oh yes. Let Putin go get mad at the Germans allies 2442 02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:24,200 Unknown: and others to make sure that this aid gets into Ukraine. 2443 02:17:24,200 --> 02:17:29,060 And of course, the so called 40 billion euro plus so 2444 02:17:29,059 --> 02:17:31,699 Adam Curry: called that is not so called. It is heal, and we 2445 02:17:31,699 --> 02:17:32,839 stole it from the Russians, 2446 02:17:33,500 --> 02:17:36,500 Unknown: where we decided collectively to make sure that 2447 02:17:36,500 --> 02:17:40,360 the money is available long term. And this is, of course, at 2448 02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:42,760 least for the first year, but then also longer term, we have 2449 02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:46,660 to find that money. Yes, and we have to work on the bilateral 2450 02:17:46,660 --> 02:17:51,520 security agreements, as they are now being negotiated between 2451 02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:54,400 Ukraine and various allies. He's 2452 02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:56,980 Adam Curry: negotiating between Ukraine and various allies. 2453 02:17:57,160 --> 02:18:00,720 There's no letting up. We're going to continue, continue to 2454 02:18:00,960 --> 02:18:02,700 how about the long range weapons? But would 2455 02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:05,940 Unknown: you support Ukraine being given access to longer 2456 02:18:05,940 --> 02:18:10,200 range missiles to be able to fire those deeper into Russia? 2457 02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:14,340 Militarily, we've heard from former senior commanders in 2458 02:18:14,340 --> 02:18:19,440 Europe saying that Ukraine's allies need to be firmer that 2459 02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:24,080 dither and delay, as one of them put it, is not in Ukraine's 2460 02:18:24,140 --> 02:18:27,980 interest. So would you personally support the use by 2461 02:18:27,980 --> 02:18:31,940 Ukraine of longer range missiles to fire deeper into Russia? 2462 02:18:32,060 --> 02:18:33,800 Adam Curry: Well, let me say this about that. 2463 02:18:34,219 --> 02:18:38,239 Unknown: Let me be very specific. First of all, Ukraine 2464 02:18:38,299 --> 02:18:43,479 is allowed illegally to strike targets in Russia. When who 2465 02:18:43,479 --> 02:18:43,779 makes 2466 02:18:43,780 --> 02:18:44,620 Adam Curry: up these laws 2467 02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,640 Unknown: illegally? Leaders, what 2468 02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:52,359 John C Dvorak: Yes, is there some who edict? Was there some 2469 02:18:52,479 --> 02:18:53,739 is law passed? 2470 02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:57,820 Adam Curry: Is there some kind of war? Law is Geneva? First 2471 02:18:57,819 --> 02:19:02,339 Unknown: of all, Ukraine is allowed illegally, legally, 2472 02:19:03,119 --> 02:19:07,439 legally, talking about I mark 2473 02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:10,020 Adam Curry: Rita have said it is legal. You can go ahead 2474 02:19:10,020 --> 02:19:13,920 Unknown: illegally to strike targets in Russia when these 2475 02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:18,180 targets pose a threat to Ukraine. So legally, this is 2476 02:19:18,180 --> 02:19:19,140 possible. Legally 2477 02:19:21,299 --> 02:19:23,419 John C Dvorak: go to court over this. What are they talking 2478 02:19:23,419 --> 02:19:27,319 about? Yes, hello, Vladimir. Just send the police in. 2479 02:19:28,520 --> 02:19:32,540 Unknown: And my second element of my house will be that it is 2480 02:19:32,540 --> 02:19:35,900 not one weapon system which will change the outcome of this 2481 02:19:35,900 --> 02:19:36,800 conflict. No, 2482 02:19:36,799 --> 02:19:40,099 Adam Curry: we need many weapons spend the money. And 2483 02:19:40,100 --> 02:19:42,520 Unknown: then, of course, it is up to the individual allies to 2484 02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:46,540 decide when they deliver weapon systems into Ukraine, how they 2485 02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:51,760 can be used, what kinds of commitments they give in terms 2486 02:19:51,760 --> 02:19:54,640 of for Ukraine, where is he going to get specific like he 2487 02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:57,760 promised to use the systems? This is not up to the alliance 2488 02:19:57,760 --> 02:19:59,920 as a whole. This is up to the individual. 2489 02:20:01,020 --> 02:20:04,620 Adam Curry: All ally members. Okay, one last clip from 2490 02:20:04,620 --> 02:20:09,060 Margarita about Ukraine becoming a NATO member. We 2491 02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:11,400 Unknown: saw recently the Slovak prime minister saying that as 2492 02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:14,160 long as he's in power, he will block Ukrainian membership. What 2493 02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:17,280 are you going to do to try to build consensus on that? Well, 2494 02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:17,880 clearly, what 2495 02:20:17,880 --> 02:20:22,340 we decided in Washington unanimously is that there is an 2496 02:20:22,340 --> 02:20:27,020 irreversible path towards membership of NATO for Ukraine, 2497 02:20:27,440 --> 02:20:28,400 irreversible. 2498 02:20:28,580 --> 02:20:31,640 Adam Curry: And then, of course, yes, irreversible. Once they 2499 02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:35,180 start, they cannot go back. We keep them going on the track 2500 02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:39,260 Unknown: towards membership of NATO for Ukraine. And then, of 2501 02:20:39,260 --> 02:20:43,360 course, the question is, how to take this to the next the next 2502 02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:49,360 steps and the next stage, and it really has to be done step by 2503 02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:51,880 step. And that's something, of course, amongst allies we will 2504 02:20:51,880 --> 02:20:55,840 discuss over the coming month, including up to the Summit in 2505 02:20:55,840 --> 02:20:58,840 the Hague and beyond. Because this is a very sensitive issue. 2506 02:20:58,840 --> 02:21:02,280 It is an important issue, yes, but I said last week in Kyiv and 2507 02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:05,520 I visited Volodymyr Zelensky and his team. Yes, 2508 02:21:05,580 --> 02:21:08,280 Adam Curry: with his team, we had a nice team. I said, a drink 2509 02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:11,160 with his team. I visited Volodymyr Zelensky. Is 2510 02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:13,800 Unknown: that one thing has to be absolutely clear, one thing 2511 02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:17,940 that Russia does not have a vote on this, and that Russia does 2512 02:21:17,940 --> 02:21:22,580 not have a veto on this? No, that would not be legal. Every 2513 02:21:22,820 --> 02:21:28,160 country in the area of NATO can apply for membership, and that 2514 02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:30,740 is a sovereign decision for that inevitable country. 2515 02:21:33,500 --> 02:21:36,800 Adam Curry: What a sales guy, and he comes across so 2516 02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:42,700 confidently. I'm Margarita. I want to make it all happen. I'm 2517 02:21:42,700 --> 02:21:44,080 gonna get that Vladimir, 2518 02:21:45,100 --> 02:21:48,640 John C Dvorak: me and my boys, irreversible. It's not 2519 02:21:48,700 --> 02:21:52,180 Adam Curry: it's it's legal. Come on, man, pull the trigger. 2520 02:21:52,180 --> 02:21:56,800 It's legal. Do it? Do it. Volodymyr, if anyone's gonna 2521 02:21:56,800 --> 02:22:01,680 start world war three, it's that guy. Yes, that guy is no good, 2522 02:22:02,340 --> 02:22:06,720 and we know he's no good. The Dutch know he's no good. We know 2523 02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:07,020 it 2524 02:22:09,060 --> 02:22:11,460 John C Dvorak: well. He's no good, he's no good, 2525 02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:19,320 Adam Curry: he's no good. So this came in, which I have let 2526 02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:23,180 me see. I think I have a longer clip here. Let me play this a 2527 02:22:23,180 --> 02:22:27,500 longer clip. This is about Google, Google and the 2528 02:22:27,500 --> 02:22:31,640 Department of Justice. And this is interesting because I 2529 02:22:31,640 --> 02:22:34,220 received a document today that I think pertains to it. 2530 02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:36,860 Unknown: So it is getting harder and harder for markets to remain 2531 02:22:36,860 --> 02:22:41,200 complacent. Shares fell by more than 2% yesterday, and as we've 2532 02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:45,460 been mentioning, alphabet is the cheapest Magnificent Seven stock 2533 02:22:45,460 --> 02:22:49,780 by forward PE multiple. So yes, cases, they can take years, even 2534 02:22:49,780 --> 02:22:53,560 if we have a decision, because Google will appeal. But 2535 02:22:53,560 --> 02:22:57,400 injunctions, as we now see, can take down walled gardens and in 2536 02:22:57,400 --> 02:23:00,540 the meantime, create openings for competitors at Google's 2537 02:23:00,540 --> 02:23:04,260 bottom line, the judge in the epic case ordered an injunction 2538 02:23:04,260 --> 02:23:07,500 yesterday that breaks open Google's Android's App Store 2539 02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:10,920 monopoly. Now he ruled that for the next three years, Google 2540 02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:14,220 must allow developers to bring their own app stores to the 2541 02:23:14,220 --> 02:23:18,060 operating system. Now the aim is to reduce fees for developers, 2542 02:23:18,060 --> 02:23:21,920 which currently must fork over 15 to 30% of their user payments 2543 02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:25,100 made within that Google ecosystem, but by allowing them 2544 02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:28,880 to bypass it, bypass the walled garden Google's App Store 2545 02:23:28,880 --> 02:23:33,200 transactions, they will take a hit in 2019 the information 2546 02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:37,460 estimates that it made up 20% of alphabets operating income. So 2547 02:23:37,460 --> 02:23:41,020 that is a significant amount. Google says, for its own part, 2548 02:23:41,020 --> 02:23:44,200 that the verdict missed the obvious, that Apple and Android, 2549 02:23:44,200 --> 02:23:47,200 quote clearly compete and says it will appeal. But in the 2550 02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:50,380 meantime, this injunction could do some damage. Now, the epic 2551 02:23:50,380 --> 02:23:53,800 case that's resulting in an opening up, the potentially 2552 02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:57,400 bigger threat is a breaking up, and that is in the cards for the 2553 02:23:57,400 --> 02:24:00,660 DOJ case, which we are expecting remedies today, and it will 2554 02:24:00,660 --> 02:24:04,020 likely include a list of options, from forcing Google to 2555 02:24:04,020 --> 02:24:07,380 give wider access to search data, to restrictions on 2556 02:24:07,380 --> 02:24:11,220 exclusivity deals, to a breakup of its business units. That, of 2557 02:24:11,220 --> 02:24:13,500 course, would be the most extreme option. 2558 02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:16,200 Adam Curry: So this kind of just, I mean, yeah, the epic 2559 02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:19,500 case has been going on for a while, and the judge may have 2560 02:24:19,500 --> 02:24:22,820 some power to do some things, but Google's going to appeal 2561 02:24:22,820 --> 02:24:25,760 everything, and they'll just keep this going forever. But it 2562 02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:29,720 was in light. I played this clip in light of a document I got to 2563 02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:34,640 just today, actually, from the oil baron, from James Comer, the 2564 02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:37,700 Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, 2565 02:24:37,700 --> 02:24:45,340 with a scathing letter to Linda Khan Khan, who is the FTC 2566 02:24:45,340 --> 02:24:52,540 Commissioner, and summarizing, he's saying, Hey, you are a 2567 02:24:52,540 --> 02:24:56,740 shill for the Democrats. If you're going out there, you're 2568 02:24:56,740 --> 02:25:00,960 doing all kinds of things. You know. But you're, you're 2569 02:25:00,960 --> 02:25:05,400 shilling for the Biden Harris or for the for the Harris team. 2570 02:25:06,060 --> 02:25:10,500 You're doing all kinds you're running political cover, you're 2571 02:25:10,500 --> 02:25:13,680 threatening all kinds of companies, and just reading 2572 02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:18,360 through this like, Huh? Do you think that this what's happening 2573 02:25:18,360 --> 02:25:23,900 now suddenly that this is a message to Google, like you 2574 02:25:23,900 --> 02:25:27,380 better. You better continue doing what we agreed you do with 2575 02:25:27,380 --> 02:25:33,080 searches and how things show up and what videos you surface or 2576 02:25:33,080 --> 02:25:38,180 don't surface on Google. On YouTube feels like there's feels 2577 02:25:38,180 --> 02:25:41,980 like there's a little bit of scam. Yes, yes. It's a scam. If 2578 02:25:41,980 --> 02:25:42,160 you're 2579 02:25:42,280 --> 02:25:46,420 John C Dvorak: going to go out this idea about the about the 2580 02:25:46,420 --> 02:25:50,740 Google Store, yeah, what about the Apple Store? Talk about your 2581 02:25:50,740 --> 02:25:51,640 walled garden? 2582 02:25:52,540 --> 02:25:56,200 Adam Curry: Well, Apple doesn't have a huge consumer search 2583 02:25:56,200 --> 02:25:56,920 business. 2584 02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:00,960 John C Dvorak: Search thing that that is different then, yeah. 2585 02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:05,340 And if the search is skewed, and they wanted to remain skewed, 2586 02:26:05,340 --> 02:26:07,980 and they've got guests, they're getting so much flack about it 2587 02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:11,400 that they're maybe they're, the skew is not as bad as it should 2588 02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:14,580 be. It's got to be more skewed. Yeah. I mean, this is the same 2589 02:26:14,580 --> 02:26:18,780 as the reports. I have a bunch of clips on this. The New York 2590 02:26:18,780 --> 02:26:21,980 Times do it. Did I get these clips? New York Times? Yeah, 2591 02:26:22,700 --> 02:26:26,300 yeah. This is kind of this talks about, unfortunately, this thing 2592 02:26:26,300 --> 02:26:29,720 went on for 15 minutes. I don't think I even got the gist of it 2593 02:26:30,140 --> 02:26:34,160 correctly, but it would. It was just, was too hard, yeah, but it 2594 02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:38,300 was about how the left is bitching about, and we noticed 2595 02:26:38,300 --> 02:26:40,840 this. Because you notice it. I noticed it. If you go to 2596 02:26:40,840 --> 02:26:44,740 Mastodon, they're all these lefties are on Mastodon, 2597 02:26:44,740 --> 02:26:47,320 bitching and moaning about the New York Times are not going 2598 02:26:47,320 --> 02:26:48,340 after Trump enough. 2599 02:26:48,460 --> 02:26:52,840 Adam Curry: Oh my god, you mean Jarvis and and Rose, 2600 02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:55,300 John C Dvorak: Jarvis and everybody. Every journalist 2601 02:26:55,300 --> 02:26:58,300 that's on Mastodon is going on and on about we should be more 2602 02:26:58,360 --> 02:26:59,920 proactive. Yes, 2603 02:26:59,920 --> 02:27:01,920 Adam Curry: you're not, you're not doing it right. New the 2604 02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:05,100 broken hashtag, broken New York Times, 2605 02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:07,080 John C Dvorak: yeah, and the people that are still on the 2606 02:27:07,080 --> 02:27:08,160 dead bird, 2607 02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:13,860 Adam Curry: hey, get with it, you old fogies podcast things 2608 02:27:13,860 --> 02:27:15,180 where it's at. And 2609 02:27:15,180 --> 02:27:17,580 John C Dvorak: so even play a couple of these clips to see if 2610 02:27:17,580 --> 02:27:18,480 you can get a All 2611 02:27:18,900 --> 02:27:21,300 Adam Curry: right, just where's this from? This New York Times 2612 02:27:21,300 --> 02:27:22,380 report. This 2613 02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:25,220 John C Dvorak: is a New York Times report that another NPR, 2614 02:27:25,220 --> 02:27:27,740 fine, 2615 02:27:27,740 --> 02:27:30,980 Adam Curry: really. Sorry. Okay, all right, here we go. 2616 02:27:30,980 --> 02:27:33,680 Unknown: Social media influencers are a big part of 2617 02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:37,280 this year's election. They Whoa. What happened to the podcasters? 2618 02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:40,420 Social media influencers are a big part of this year's 2619 02:27:40,420 --> 02:27:43,300 election, they translate the news for their followers, but 2620 02:27:43,300 --> 02:27:46,720 the news they spread has to come from somewhere, often a news 2621 02:27:46,720 --> 02:27:50,080 organization. So we're talking with a behind the scenes 2622 02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:54,040 influencer, Joe Kahn, executive editor of the New York Times, 2623 02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:58,540 in people's minds, there's very little neutral middle ground in 2624 02:27:58,540 --> 02:28:01,980 our mind. It is the ground that we are determined to occupy. 2625 02:28:02,040 --> 02:28:05,100 Joe Kahn is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter who now runs 2626 02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:07,740 the times newsroom. We met him at the Times headquarters 2627 02:28:07,740 --> 02:28:11,040 building in Manhattan. There is, as you know very well, a long 2628 02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:13,740 standing conservative or republican critique of the New 2629 02:28:13,740 --> 02:28:17,700 York Times, but the special passion in criticism of the 2630 02:28:17,700 --> 02:28:20,960 times in this election cycle seems to me to be on the left. 2631 02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:23,000 You're nodding. Why do you think that is 2632 02:28:23,540 --> 02:28:27,560 it's a good question, and I struggle with it often, because 2633 02:28:27,560 --> 02:28:30,920 the left has really high expectations of the New York 2634 02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:33,740 Times. I think some of them honestly distorted. 2635 02:28:35,960 --> 02:28:38,360 John C Dvorak: I just thought that was such a giveaway. Yeah, 2636 02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:41,260 he's nodding. Yeah. I don't get it. I don't understand why the 2637 02:28:41,260 --> 02:28:46,660 lefty, because they're always been our biggest fans. Yeah, I 2638 02:28:46,660 --> 02:28:50,080 said we were, oh, that you said, Oh, I 2639 02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:54,040 Adam Curry: know it's like 15 to 13. Now, I know, I know it's 2640 02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:55,900 bad. I blame Tina. 2641 02:28:55,960 --> 02:29:01,680 John C Dvorak: It does help when you point it out. Yes. So let's 2642 02:29:01,740 --> 02:29:04,320 just part two of this. If you've 2643 02:29:04,320 --> 02:29:07,440 Unknown: heard about Project 2025, a conservative blueprint 2644 02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:10,740 for a future Republican administration, one reason may 2645 02:29:10,740 --> 02:29:13,620 be that the times covered it a lot last year. You 2646 02:29:13,620 --> 02:29:16,200 know that's something that you want to cover deeply, fully, 2647 02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:21,080 fairly, and provide people with some substance to analyze that. 2648 02:29:21,380 --> 02:29:24,020 I'm thinking of one particular story that we could pluck out of 2649 02:29:24,020 --> 02:29:28,580 the river of Times coverage. And I paraphrase here, but the story 2650 02:29:28,580 --> 02:29:31,880 used the word plan. Harris has a plan for housing. Trump has a 2651 02:29:31,880 --> 02:29:35,120 plan for housing, and Trump's plan is he's going to deport 2652 02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:37,760 illegal immigrants and make more room for everybody else. And I 2653 02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:40,900 thought to myself, That's not actually a plan, that's a 2654 02:29:40,900 --> 02:29:44,860 slogan, and I'm just trying to describe it accurately. Is that 2655 02:29:44,860 --> 02:29:47,620 an example where maybe you were trying a little too hard to be 2656 02:29:47,620 --> 02:29:49,000 fair to each side? 2657 02:29:52,120 --> 02:29:55,780 John C Dvorak: How is that being fair to each side? And this guy 2658 02:29:55,780 --> 02:30:02,460 never what is Harris's plan? If. It's never reported what his 2659 02:30:02,460 --> 02:30:06,480 what her plan is, and this guy was doing the reporting from NPR 2660 02:30:06,480 --> 02:30:10,860 is obviously a Trump hater, yeah, and it just comes through 2661 02:30:10,860 --> 02:30:13,440 with this discussion. And I think part three maybe bring a 2662 02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:15,240 little more light to it. Well, 2663 02:30:15,240 --> 02:30:17,520 Unknown: I think what we've tried to do with respect to 2664 02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:22,040 housing is housing's an absolutely major problem. And we 2665 02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:24,680 basically took it to both campaigns and said, What would 2666 02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:27,380 you do about this concretely? Not just talk about it 2667 02:30:27,380 --> 02:30:31,520 rhetorically, but what are your plans? And Harris and the Harris 2668 02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:34,940 campaign responded, and we looked at their proposals and 2669 02:30:34,940 --> 02:30:37,400 what they would do to move the needle on that subject, and we 2670 02:30:37,400 --> 02:30:40,540 asked the same thing of the Trump people, you're absolutely 2671 02:30:40,540 --> 02:30:45,640 right. Their response was, we will deport immigrants who are 2672 02:30:46,060 --> 02:30:50,200 occupying too much housing and free that housing up for 2673 02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:54,100 American citizens. And I think we frontally pointed out in that 2674 02:30:54,100 --> 02:30:57,040 piece that there's extremely little evidence that illegal 2675 02:30:57,040 --> 02:31:00,660 immigrants who would be deported are occupying a significant 2676 02:31:00,660 --> 02:31:03,420 chunk of housing, it would make any difference at all in the 2677 02:31:03,420 --> 02:31:05,160 affordable housing crisis. That 2678 02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:07,980 was one of Khan's defenses against the claim that his paper 2679 02:31:07,980 --> 02:31:09,780 is soft pedaling. Donald Trump, 2680 02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:16,980 John C Dvorak: what? How is that soft pedaling? Donald Trump, 2681 02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:20,780 they criticized his whole plan, never mentioning what Harris's 2682 02:31:20,780 --> 02:31:23,720 was, and this is somehow soft peddling 2683 02:31:24,140 --> 02:31:27,380 Adam Curry: here. Jeff Jarvis posts a link to a New York Times 2684 02:31:27,380 --> 02:31:31,340 opinion joy is working for Harris. But can it close the 2685 02:31:31,340 --> 02:31:39,200 deal? Jeff Jarvis's post sigh, the media trope that voters need 2686 02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:42,760 to learn more about Harris, well, then do your job and 2687 02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:45,220 inform them That's your job. 2688 02:31:48,400 --> 02:31:51,820 John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah, you probably just read those kinds 2689 02:31:51,820 --> 02:31:56,620 of posts on mastodon. They're not on Twitter, yeah, and I'll 2690 02:31:56,620 --> 02:31:58,600 find them keep us entertained for days. 2691 02:31:59,020 --> 02:32:02,640 Adam Curry: Hashtag. Brokenpost calls this, we are going to beat 2692 02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:07,020 the reporters into retardation, pugnacity, ridiculous peace. Why 2693 02:32:07,020 --> 02:32:11,340 might he lose women? He's a damn sexual predator. Say it is the 2694 02:32:11,340 --> 02:32:19,440 Trump campaign's male dominated culture losing women vote. Oh, 2695 02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:24,200 my God. And then he posts the Washington Post. What a pissy 2696 02:32:24,200 --> 02:32:28,460 jealous piece of shit. This is from the hashtag brokenpost. Oh 2697 02:32:28,460 --> 02:32:36,680 god. Jeff Jarvis, calm down. Take a CBD. It's grab a gum, 2698 02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:43,240 John C Dvorak: grab something. I mean, it's like, these are 2699 02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:43,960 posted. These 2700 02:32:43,960 --> 02:32:45,160 Adam Curry: are professionals. 2701 02:32:45,640 --> 02:32:49,660 John C Dvorak: It's journalism. They're not opinion. They don't 2702 02:32:49,660 --> 02:32:52,600 do it. If they were just opinion writers, and this is an opinion 2703 02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:55,240 that's fine, but that's not what they claim to be. The whole 2704 02:32:55,240 --> 02:32:57,460 Adam Curry: thing is falling apart. That's the point. The 2705 02:32:57,460 --> 02:33:01,200 whole mainstream media is falling apart. They can't stand 2706 02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:04,680 that people get their news from Twitter. They can't stand that 2707 02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:08,460 podcasts have millions of listeners, and people like call 2708 02:33:08,460 --> 02:33:12,000 her daddy and Rogan make hundreds of millions of dollars. 2709 02:33:12,300 --> 02:33:16,500 They're beside themselves with envy and anger, and they just 2710 02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:21,080 take it out on anything they can. It's all Trump's fault? 2711 02:33:21,140 --> 02:33:25,100 Well, of course, because he he told everybody the fake news is 2712 02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:27,620 the enemy of the people. And the people went, huh, that's an 2713 02:33:27,860 --> 02:33:29,120 interesting point. 2714 02:33:31,760 --> 02:33:34,040 John C Dvorak: What I the biggest kick I get out of this 2715 02:33:34,040 --> 02:33:37,460 when he talked about it initially, back in 2015 he said, 2716 02:33:38,180 --> 02:33:40,840 and he made a point, says, Well, you know? I said, Well, they're 2717 02:33:40,840 --> 02:33:43,240 saying the news was the enemy of the people. And they said, No. I 2718 02:33:43,240 --> 02:33:46,300 said, the fake news is the enemy of the people, right? It turns 2719 02:33:46,300 --> 02:33:50,800 out that the original assertion was true. It's the news. It's 2720 02:33:50,800 --> 02:33:54,160 not the it's all of them. They're the, literally, the 2721 02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:57,820 enemy of the people. Yes, they lie. And then you can see when 2722 02:33:57,820 --> 02:34:01,680 it starts to come out of guys who are supposedly journalists. 2723 02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:04,500 And suppose you know reporters and people are supposed to be 2724 02:34:04,500 --> 02:34:07,200 objective, they're not objective, and that those tweets 2725 02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:10,800 from Jarvis are a good example. That's not objectivity. Let's 2726 02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:14,400 give nothing but free coverage to Harris, because she's such a 2727 02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:19,320 genius. She is a moron. Jeff, she's an idiot. You can see it 2728 02:34:19,320 --> 02:34:23,480 in her eyes. You can see it in her responses. She's a stupid 2729 02:34:23,480 --> 02:34:26,780 human being, and that's beyond me that anyone does. Can't see 2730 02:34:26,780 --> 02:34:29,600 this. It's it's obvious to most people. 2731 02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:31,580 Unknown: Go podcasting. I was 2732 02:34:33,140 --> 02:34:34,820 John C Dvorak: wondering what you're gonna come up with. 2733 02:34:38,780 --> 02:34:41,020 Adam Curry: Do we need to play more of this? We need to 2734 02:34:41,560 --> 02:34:43,240 John C Dvorak: know the last thing is another, completely 2735 02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:45,700 different topic, and it's just not important. All right. 2736 02:34:45,700 --> 02:34:48,340 Adam Curry: Well, then let me, let me just play this one, 2737 02:34:48,340 --> 02:34:51,520 because you won't, you won't read this on x. It will be 2738 02:34:51,520 --> 02:34:53,020 suppressed. You heard it here 2739 02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:56,080 Unknown: for months. American billionaire Elon Musk has been 2740 02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:58,960 in the tug of war with the Brazilian courts, but he has 2741 02:34:58,960 --> 02:35:02,940 proven to be out. Muscled X will once again be available in 2742 02:35:02,940 --> 02:35:06,240 Brazil, as the Supreme Court on Tuesday, ordered the 2743 02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:09,060 reinstatement of the social network throughout the country. 2744 02:35:09,660 --> 02:35:11,880 X welcome the news. X 2745 02:35:11,880 --> 02:35:14,700 Adam Curry: is proud to return to Brazil. We will continue to 2746 02:35:14,700 --> 02:35:17,760 defend freedom of speech within the boundaries of the law 2747 02:35:17,820 --> 02:35:19,320 everywhere we operate. 2748 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:23,480 Unknown: Supreme Court Judge Alexandra de Morice cited 2749 02:35:23,540 --> 02:35:27,200 insufficient safeguards against disinformation when blocking x 2750 02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:31,340 in August, a ruling that ex owner Elon Musk vowed to fight, 2751 02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:35,480 but instead he capitulated. In addition to paying a fine of 2752 02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:38,840 nearly 5 million euros, the social network has agreed to 2753 02:35:38,840 --> 02:35:41,500 appoint a new legal representative in the country 2754 02:35:41,560 --> 02:35:45,220 and delete accounts with links to the far right. One of the 2755 02:35:45,220 --> 02:35:48,700 reasons for Musk's change of heart pressure from investors. 2756 02:35:49,240 --> 02:35:53,260 With its 22 million users, Brazil is the largest economy in 2757 02:35:53,260 --> 02:35:58,000 Latin America and a major source of revenue for X, another of the 2758 02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:00,840 American billionaires, companies, Internet Service 2759 02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:05,100 Provider Starlink also suffered from excess suspension. Its bank 2760 02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:08,820 accounts and financial assets were temporarily frozen in order 2761 02:36:08,820 --> 02:36:11,040 to cover fines and post on x 2762 02:36:11,100 --> 02:36:14,580 Adam Curry: Oh, okay, I guess money does matter over free 2763 02:36:14,580 --> 02:36:15,540 speech 2764 02:36:15,900 --> 02:36:18,240 John C Dvorak: free Well, it would for you too. It would for 2765 02:36:18,240 --> 02:36:20,240 anybody's not dumb, no, 2766 02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,820 Adam Curry: but I'm not going out there saying, Man, I'm never 2767 02:36:22,820 --> 02:36:29,300 gonna do it. We gotta Screw you. Nugget, I preach speech. I mean, 2768 02:36:29,540 --> 02:36:35,780 What? What? Oh, what'd you say? Investor, what? Starling, okay, 2769 02:36:35,780 --> 02:36:39,200 John C Dvorak: whatever you say goes all right. Of course he 2770 02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:42,520 did. Of course he wasn't. It was a foregone conclusion he wasn't 2771 02:36:42,520 --> 02:36:45,640 going to put up with his assets being seized. And he knows these 2772 02:36:45,640 --> 02:36:49,480 South American countries, they love to nationalize stuff. Yes, 2773 02:36:53,860 --> 02:36:55,480 that's nationalized. Starling, yeah, 2774 02:36:57,160 --> 02:36:59,080 Adam Curry: I have one more story here, just a little 2775 02:36:59,080 --> 02:37:03,720 update, because, speaking of Elon, when is he going to take 2776 02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:04,980 over Boeing? Sticking 2777 02:37:04,980 --> 02:37:07,260 Unknown: with corporate news talks to end the month long 2778 02:37:07,260 --> 02:37:10,440 strike at Boeing have broken down and are not slated to 2779 02:37:10,440 --> 02:37:14,580 resume at this time, Boeing seemed especially frustrated 2780 02:37:14,760 --> 02:37:17,760 with the union representing roughly 33,000 striking 2781 02:37:17,760 --> 02:37:21,320 machinists, a Boeing executive told employees in a note. Quote, 2782 02:37:21,560 --> 02:37:25,040 unfortunately, the Union did not seriously consider our 2783 02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:29,240 proposals. As a result, Boeing has ripped up an offer it called 2784 02:37:29,240 --> 02:37:33,140 its quote best and final that would have boosted pay by 30% 2785 02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:37,340 the union, however, is not backing down. Union members are 2786 02:37:37,340 --> 02:37:41,140 holding out for a 40% raise as part of a long list of 2787 02:37:41,140 --> 02:37:44,860 grievances. Quote, they refuse to propose any wage increases, 2788 02:37:44,860 --> 02:37:48,460 vacation, sick leave, accrual, progression, ratification bonus, 2789 02:37:48,580 --> 02:37:52,780 or the 401 K match. The Union told Reuters, adding both, they 2790 02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:56,500 also would not reinstate the defined benefit pension. The 2791 02:37:56,500 --> 02:38:00,660 strike has pushed Boeing deeper into the red. It's estimated to 2792 02:38:00,660 --> 02:38:04,560 lose $1 billion a month, according to s&p Global ratings, 2793 02:38:04,800 --> 02:38:09,540 on top of the $60 billion debt it is already carrying. With 2794 02:38:09,540 --> 02:38:12,060 production shut down, Boeing is being forced to furlough 2795 02:38:12,060 --> 02:38:15,720 workers. It is also exploring money raising efforts to remain 2796 02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:19,320 afloat while the picket line proves to be an impenetrable 2797 02:38:19,320 --> 02:38:19,920 force. 2798 02:38:20,280 --> 02:38:24,920 Adam Curry: This is bad. They have effectively, negotiations 2799 02:38:24,920 --> 02:38:28,520 are just done. They I was their last and final offer. If you 2800 02:38:28,520 --> 02:38:34,160 remember, this is bad? Yeah, it's bad for workers. It's bad 2801 02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:40,060 for our aero Defense, Space industry, yeah, yeah, so, but I 2802 02:38:40,060 --> 02:38:41,380 don't know how we're gonna make all those 2803 02:38:41,560 --> 02:38:44,440 John C Dvorak: flying unlucky jets again and 2804 02:38:44,560 --> 02:38:47,080 Adam Curry: and these, uh, boa and this is not really 2805 02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:50,200 discussed. Is this only the aircraft division, or is this 2806 02:38:50,200 --> 02:38:53,980 all of Boeing? Does this include the the bomb guys and the F 35 2807 02:38:54,340 --> 02:38:59,020 guy? What'd be everybody? Yeah. I mean, how are we gonna get 2808 02:38:59,440 --> 02:39:01,800 John C Dvorak: to a billion a month that affects all the 2809 02:39:01,860 --> 02:39:02,640 divisions, how 2810 02:39:02,640 --> 02:39:05,040 Adam Curry: are we going to get Margarita all of his his 2811 02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:05,700 weapons? 2812 02:39:07,260 --> 02:39:09,360 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, there, there you go. That's the 2813 02:39:09,360 --> 02:39:10,380 main concern. 2814 02:39:10,380 --> 02:39:15,120 Adam Curry: Yes, I think Elon should expand his military 2815 02:39:15,120 --> 02:39:16,320 contracting empire. 2816 02:39:17,340 --> 02:39:19,320 John C Dvorak: I think he launched to take over bowling. 2817 02:39:19,320 --> 02:39:19,560 Yeah, he 2818 02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:21,680 Adam Curry: can pretend he invented that it's no problem. 2819 02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:24,860 Unknown: Oh, I'm gonna show 2820 02:39:24,860 --> 02:39:28,280 my saloon by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people 2821 02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:28,940 who could do that. 2822 02:39:29,240 --> 02:39:30,320 Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. We 2823 02:39:37,340 --> 02:39:39,440 Adam Curry: want to thank the rest of our producers who sent 2824 02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:44,380 in some treasure for us to enjoy, and we appreciate any 2825 02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:47,500 amount anybody sends at any time. You can make that up 2826 02:39:47,500 --> 02:39:51,640 yourself. There's no obligation. We have no premium content 2827 02:39:51,640 --> 02:39:54,520 offerings. We are the premium content we give it to you right 2828 02:39:54,520 --> 02:39:58,540 up front. No hoops, no paywalls, no jumps you got to make. You 2829 02:39:58,540 --> 02:40:01,860 just say no. I got some value out of that today from these 2830 02:40:01,860 --> 02:40:05,220 guys. So we send something back to them. We read everything, 2831 02:40:05,400 --> 02:40:08,760 every note, every donation, $50 and above. What are you 2832 02:40:08,760 --> 02:40:09,180 drinking? 2833 02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:12,420 John C Dvorak: I'm not drink that was just me doing nothing. 2834 02:40:12,720 --> 02:40:16,440 You just I want to mention, as you go on and on, that we did 2835 02:40:16,440 --> 02:40:21,080 not again, get any donations from Elon Musk. No, no. Really 2836 02:40:21,080 --> 02:40:21,740 ever get him. 2837 02:40:22,520 --> 02:40:28,100 Adam Curry: I wonder why. I wonder why. Hey, you can you 2838 02:40:28,100 --> 02:40:37,820 can, you can you can post it on X for free. All right, John, 2839 02:40:37,820 --> 02:40:39,140 take us through the 50s. Yeah, 2840 02:40:39,140 --> 02:40:41,020 John C Dvorak: we have a few people to thank, starting with 2841 02:40:41,020 --> 02:40:45,280 David, knew it in Mason Texas. Where's Mason Texas? It's 2842 02:40:45,460 --> 02:40:49,060 Adam Curry: right above. I don't know. I don't have anything 2843 02:40:49,060 --> 02:40:51,400 John C Dvorak: to do the Mason Dixie line. No, 2844 02:40:51,400 --> 02:40:54,640 Adam Curry: I don't think so. I don't know for sure. I don't 2845 02:40:54,640 --> 02:40:54,880 know for 2846 02:40:54,880 --> 02:40:58,060 John C Dvorak: 170 bucks, Anna Johnson and Blaine Washington, 2847 02:40:58,060 --> 02:41:03,660 $141 and she's wishes a happy 41st 41st birthday to her. Her 2848 02:41:03,660 --> 02:41:05,640 smoking hot husband. Mark, 2849 02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:06,600 Adam Curry: nice. 2850 02:41:07,260 --> 02:41:08,220 John C Dvorak: She needs a deducing. 2851 02:41:10,320 --> 02:41:12,120 Unknown: You've been deduced. 2852 02:41:13,680 --> 02:41:15,660 John C Dvorak: Good old Rita Harrington and Sparks, Nevada, 2853 02:41:15,660 --> 02:41:21,980 Dame Rita one, three, 3.33. She does say this, you two always 2854 02:41:21,980 --> 02:41:26,840 hit the nail on the head. Bam, yeah. No, already. It's Kevin 2855 02:41:26,840 --> 02:41:29,720 McLaughlin, conquered North Carolina, Archduke Luna, lover 2856 02:41:29,720 --> 02:41:34,760 of American boots with 8008 sir mainframe in Ventura, 2857 02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:39,500 California. 64 Ralph Capone, or Capone in Greensburg, 2858 02:41:39,500 --> 02:41:44,920 Pennsylvania. 6325 Grayson insurance. Grayson insurance in 2859 02:41:44,980 --> 02:41:49,600 Aurora, Colorado, for all your insurance needs, 6006 Troy, 2860 02:41:49,660 --> 02:41:55,180 Thunder Burke in Missoula, Montana. 55 uh, some unknown 2861 02:41:55,180 --> 02:41:58,600 person in Aledo, Texas, Mark Hardwick, as a matter of fact, 2862 02:41:58,600 --> 02:42:03,600 5333 I don't know why his name's missing from the blind Brittany. 2863 02:42:03,600 --> 02:42:08,280 Is it missing on yours? Yes. Brittany, Miller in Trinidad, 2864 02:42:08,280 --> 02:42:17,580 Colorado, 5272 sir lineman in Anna at Illinois. 5272 he is Sir 2865 02:42:17,580 --> 02:42:21,260 lineman of the net, Raleigh Hawk, Baron of Southern 2866 02:42:21,560 --> 02:42:30,740 chilenoid. That's him, Jose hosiah Josiah Ankeny Iowa. In 2867 02:42:31,220 --> 02:42:36,260 ice is Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, $51 bad Oh, there they 2868 02:42:36,260 --> 02:42:40,600 are. Bad idea supply. Look them up on the internet. They make 2869 02:42:40,600 --> 02:42:47,080 great burning gear, $50.50 and whoop boom. We're already at the 2870 02:42:47,080 --> 02:42:50,440 50s. We don't have a big list today. Whoop, boom, whoop, boom, 2871 02:42:50,740 --> 02:42:55,000 whoop, boom. Stephen ray in Spokane, Washington, 50. Ray 2872 02:42:55,000 --> 02:42:59,740 Howard in Kremlin, Colorado. Robertson home in Flint, 2873 02:42:59,740 --> 02:43:03,180 Michigan. We talked about them earlier. Edward Missouri, sir. 2874 02:43:03,180 --> 02:43:06,360 Edward in Memphis, Tennessee. William Kidwell in Dover, 2875 02:43:06,360 --> 02:43:11,640 Delaware. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Michelle 2876 02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:18,480 petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Steven schumac in Xenia, 2877 02:43:18,480 --> 02:43:21,860 Ohio. And already the list is done because we have Jason 2878 02:43:21,860 --> 02:43:26,240 deluzio there in Miami Beach, Florida, last on the list. Want 2879 02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:31,160 to thank all these people for helping us make 1703 or two. 2880 02:43:31,160 --> 02:43:33,320 1702 to show that it is 2881 02:43:33,800 --> 02:43:36,020 Adam Curry: yes, and thank you to all our sustaining donors who 2882 02:43:36,020 --> 02:43:40,220 came in under $50 some for reasons of anonymity, but many 2883 02:43:40,220 --> 02:43:43,900 just putting together five bucks a week, a show a month, whatever 2884 02:43:44,020 --> 02:43:48,880 works for you. No agenda, donations.com and got a note. 2885 02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:54,520 Got a note from Darren, the pre show guy. You'll recall, we had 2886 02:43:54,520 --> 02:43:58,600 a karma for his dad on the last show. And he follows up, and he 2887 02:43:58,600 --> 02:44:01,380 says, I am a believer in no agenda, health, karma and the 2888 02:44:01,380 --> 02:44:05,400 prayers that come along with it. They did the T scan on my dad 2889 02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:08,040 today and found a bit of scar tissue on his heart valve, but 2890 02:44:08,040 --> 02:44:12,000 not the infection they seem to think they'd find. He went into 2891 02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:14,820 his local Hospital's ER on Thursday, when his legs, ankles 2892 02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:17,640 and abdomen started to swell. It all started with the abdomen. 2893 02:44:17,820 --> 02:44:20,400 Seems not a lot of people know that's a sign of congestive 2894 02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:23,540 heart failure, I was unaware. They got the swelling down. Did 2895 02:44:23,540 --> 02:44:27,500 an endocardiogram echocardiogram on his heart. That's when they 2896 02:44:27,500 --> 02:44:30,860 saw what they thought was an infection. The valve turns out, 2897 02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:35,180 turns out it was just a scar tissue. So his dad is doing 2898 02:44:35,180 --> 02:44:37,880 great, and it looks like he's coming home today or tomorrow. 2899 02:44:37,880 --> 02:44:41,320 And we could not be happier. No agenda, karma and prayers. Work. 2900 02:44:41,320 --> 02:44:44,260 We're so happy for you. There, once again, no agenda, 2901 02:44:44,260 --> 02:44:47,800 donations.com. Karma health. For anyone who needs it, you've 2902 02:44:47,800 --> 02:44:49,120 Unknown: got karma. 2903 02:44:57,580 --> 02:44:59,920 Adam Curry: Anna Johnson, wishes a smoking hot husband. Mark. 2904 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,800 Johnson, a very happy one. He turned 41 on October 7. Zeb 2905 02:45:04,860 --> 02:45:08,880 green is turning 49 tomorrow. Sir Bob, protector of Western 2906 02:45:08,880 --> 02:45:12,360 foco, wishes his sister, Pam, a happy one. Her birthday will be 2907 02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:15,720 tomorrow. And he also says Happy Birthday to his son, Andrew, 2908 02:45:15,960 --> 02:45:19,260 he'll be turning 18 tomorrow as well. And we say happy birthday 2909 02:45:19,260 --> 02:45:23,060 to everybody, on behalf of the staff and management of your no 2910 02:45:23,060 --> 02:45:23,900 agenda show. 2911 02:45:35,420 --> 02:45:39,260 We have a title change, Captain Luke Knight of the Barbary Coast 2912 02:45:39,380 --> 02:45:44,680 upped his donations and he is now up to Captain Luke Barron of 2913 02:45:44,680 --> 02:45:48,940 Sonoma County and commodore of all coastal and riverine 2914 02:45:48,940 --> 02:45:52,480 operations therein. Which brings us to our Commodores. We are 2915 02:45:52,480 --> 02:45:56,320 very proud to welcome them in certificates are on their way. 2916 02:45:56,320 --> 02:45:58,780 Once you give us your information, here we go. You 2917 02:46:04,800 --> 02:46:08,220 we welcome Commodore, Captain Luke the fourth. Commodore, 2918 02:46:08,220 --> 02:46:13,500 Tyrell McMahon, Commodore, SX 64 Commodore, Bay Area wildfire. 2919 02:46:13,500 --> 02:46:17,520 Commodore, Mark alcoser, Commodore anonymous from Silver 2920 02:46:17,520 --> 02:46:21,260 Spring, Commodore, Steve bansa and Commodore anonymous, 2921 02:46:22,580 --> 02:46:25,580 Unknown: arriving. Oh, man, 2922 02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:27,860 Adam Curry: I love those Commodores. Go to noagender 2923 02:46:27,860 --> 02:46:32,060 rings.com that's where you can also get your Commodore 2924 02:46:32,240 --> 02:46:35,600 certificate. Just give us the information on what you want on 2925 02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:39,380 it and where to send it. And we have a knight as well. John. So 2926 02:46:39,380 --> 02:46:41,920 here's my sword. If you can, here you go. 2927 02:46:41,920 --> 02:46:42,880 Unknown: Whip it out. There 2928 02:46:42,880 --> 02:46:43,420 it is. 2929 02:46:45,400 --> 02:46:49,780 Adam Curry: Zev green. Come on up. Zev. Thanks to your support 2930 02:46:49,780 --> 02:46:52,720 of the no agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more. I'm 2931 02:46:52,720 --> 02:46:57,400 very proud to pronounce the K the SIR ZEV mo protector of the 2932 02:46:57,400 --> 02:47:00,600 digital wallet. By request, we have a couple of things here at 2933 02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:03,120 the round table, first of all, hookers and blow rent boys and 2934 02:47:03,120 --> 02:47:07,500 Chardonnay, old casbier and Al tazaj Chicken, along with potato 2935 02:47:07,500 --> 02:47:12,300 Kugel and kombucha. Also with that, we've got Rubens women and 2936 02:47:12,300 --> 02:47:15,900 rose a geisha nazaki Vodka, vanilla bong hits and bourbon. 2937 02:47:15,900 --> 02:47:18,780 We've got sparkling cider escorts, ginger ale and gerbils. 2938 02:47:18,960 --> 02:47:21,740 We got breast milk and pablum and, of course, the always 2939 02:47:21,740 --> 02:47:25,580 effervescent mutton and me. Welcome to the round table, my 2940 02:47:25,580 --> 02:47:28,580 friend and you also go to noagendarings.com that's where 2941 02:47:28,580 --> 02:47:31,520 you'll see the handsome no agenda night ring. It's a signet 2942 02:47:31,520 --> 02:47:33,440 ring so you can hit people in the mouth. It'll leave a 2943 02:47:33,440 --> 02:47:37,760 beautiful mark. Or you use the wax that we add to your package 2944 02:47:37,760 --> 02:47:40,240 to seal your important, important correspondence with. 2945 02:47:40,240 --> 02:47:43,420 And also, just like your Commodore ship, if you have one, 2946 02:47:43,900 --> 02:47:47,260 it comes with a certificate of authenticity. And thank you very 2947 02:47:47,260 --> 02:47:50,020 much for supporting the no agenda show, also known as the 2948 02:47:50,020 --> 02:47:51,820 best podcast in the universe. 2949 02:48:00,820 --> 02:48:05,040 We have one report today. It's a very mini report. You'll recall 2950 02:48:05,040 --> 02:48:09,600 sir Andre of the empty PayPal became sir Andre of the broken 2951 02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:14,160 brain, and he had to go into the hospital and is rehabilitating, 2952 02:48:14,160 --> 02:48:19,020 and half of his side is one. Half his body is paralyzed. And 2953 02:48:19,020 --> 02:48:21,960 so the folks over there in the Netherlands decided to do a 2954 02:48:21,960 --> 02:48:23,660 little mini meetup with mini meetup with him. 2955 02:48:23,660 --> 02:48:27,140 Unknown: This is Frank aka Mike, meetup report, sixth of October, 2956 02:48:27,260 --> 02:48:30,200 from Luz bake. 2957 02:48:30,440 --> 02:48:35,180 Hi in the morning, Dame Pam, in the morning. So Andre night with 2958 02:48:35,180 --> 02:48:38,300 a broken brain, and I've got two visitors in my hospital room 2959 02:48:38,300 --> 02:48:42,760 here, Frank aka Mike, and dame. Pam, I'm so happy with all the 2960 02:48:42,760 --> 02:48:45,940 visitors that are coming from the NA group in the morning. 2961 02:48:45,940 --> 02:48:47,200 Thank you for your courage 2962 02:48:47,560 --> 02:48:48,160 in 2963 02:48:49,900 --> 02:48:52,900 Adam Curry: the morning. I love that. There you go. Connection 2964 02:48:52,900 --> 02:48:55,480 is protection. That's what those no agenda meetups are about. You 2965 02:48:55,480 --> 02:48:58,240 meet people who will even visit you in the hospital when your 2966 02:48:58,240 --> 02:49:01,500 brain is broken. I'm telling you, you need to go to one of 2967 02:49:01,500 --> 02:49:04,500 these. And you could actually go to the northern wake, publical 2968 02:49:04,500 --> 02:49:07,140 slave gathering six o'clock today in Raleigh, North 2969 02:49:07,140 --> 02:49:11,160 Carolina, at hoppy endings, or Saturday, Michigan, local one 2970 02:49:11,220 --> 02:49:16,260 assembles for the meetup by the bay at two o'clock in Barb bark. 2971 02:49:16,380 --> 02:49:21,800 Wow, was it barqub. Barqub BC. Barqu BC. Bay City, Michigan. 2972 02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:24,740 Check no agenda meetups.com. To make sure I said that right. The 2973 02:49:24,740 --> 02:49:27,740 Treasure Valley meetup will be taking place at three o'clock at 2974 02:49:27,740 --> 02:49:31,700 the Heritage social club in Garden City, Idaho. Also on 2975 02:49:31,700 --> 02:49:35,240 Saturday, the six week cycle. Threat number two, our democracy 2976 02:49:35,240 --> 02:49:39,860 Oktoberfest meetup, 333 at sabalas Mexican Grill in Fort 2977 02:49:39,860 --> 02:49:43,300 Wayne, Indiana. And our next show day on Sunday, the too many 2978 02:49:43,300 --> 02:49:47,440 eggs.com. Meet Up. Number seven, margaritas, Keene in Keene, New 2979 02:49:47,440 --> 02:49:50,560 Hampshire. Here's what's on the way. We have Charlotte, North 2980 02:49:50,560 --> 02:49:53,320 Carolina, on the 17th, Fredericksburg, Texas, the big 2981 02:49:53,320 --> 02:49:56,080 one, curry and the keeper will be there. Please join us for 2982 02:49:56,080 --> 02:49:58,660 that. Lot of people coming in for that one that's right here 2983 02:49:58,660 --> 02:50:01,560 in Fredericksburg. The nine. 19th, Bedford, Texas on the 2984 02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:05,880 20th, Cincinnati, Ohio, Okeechobee, Florida, Spearfish, 2985 02:50:05,880 --> 02:50:08,940 South Dakota, Alpharetta, Georgia on the 26th LaGrange, 2986 02:50:08,940 --> 02:50:13,320 Illinois, London, UK, Ottawa, Ontario, Houston, Texas on the 2987 02:50:13,320 --> 02:50:16,380 28th Minneapolis on the second of November. Richland, 2988 02:50:16,380 --> 02:50:18,660 Washington, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Emeryville, 2989 02:50:18,660 --> 02:50:22,220 California on the ninth, Bedford, Texas and Bastrop 2990 02:50:22,220 --> 02:50:26,720 Texas. Whoa, are we doing duly meetups on the 10th, Ocala 2991 02:50:26,720 --> 02:50:29,420 Florida on the 11th, Springfield, Missouri, the 16th, 2992 02:50:29,420 --> 02:50:33,560 Bedford, Texas, again, shekopy, Minnesota on the 16th, 2993 02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:36,860 Sacramento, California. 27th we're into December. Goleta, 2994 02:50:36,860 --> 02:50:40,040 California on the fifth, West Palm Beach Florida on the 15th, 2995 02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:44,260 and at Ventura, Florida on January 19, just a few of the no 2996 02:50:44,260 --> 02:50:48,940 agenda meetups that go well into 2025, and beyond. Please join 2997 02:50:48,940 --> 02:50:52,420 one of these at least once. I guarantee, I guarantee you, you 2998 02:50:52,420 --> 02:50:56,020 will want to go to more because it's just like potato chips. You 2999 02:50:56,020 --> 02:50:59,140 crunch one and you can't stop no agenda meetups. Connection is 3000 02:50:59,140 --> 02:51:02,220 protection. Go to no agenda meetups.com, you can't Find one 3001 02:51:02,220 --> 02:51:08,700 storm one yourself like a 3002 02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:27,080 party. Like a party, like a party, okay, ISOs. This is where 3003 02:51:27,080 --> 02:51:30,260 we choose the ISOs, the end of show. ISOs that always leave you 3004 02:51:30,260 --> 02:51:32,720 with just that little, oh, boy, I love that show. 3005 02:51:33,380 --> 02:51:36,320 John C Dvorak: I'll be at the Emeryville meetup. Oh, you will 3006 02:51:36,800 --> 02:51:39,320 Adam Curry: nice. Is that another get John out of the 3007 02:51:39,320 --> 02:51:40,840 house meet up where you just Yes, 3008 02:51:40,840 --> 02:51:43,120 John C Dvorak: it is, and it's, but it's gonna be at the trader 3009 02:51:43,120 --> 02:51:49,300 vix in Emeryville, and you have the date there, and it is, see 3010 02:51:50,920 --> 02:51:52,660 Adam Curry: on November 2. 3011 02:51:53,440 --> 02:51:55,600 John C Dvorak: This is November 2. That's what it says. Yeah, 3012 02:51:56,980 --> 02:52:00,540 that will Are you available? Are you available? That's family 3013 02:52:00,540 --> 02:52:03,900 friendly, so people can go there with your kids, with the kids, 3014 02:52:03,900 --> 02:52:09,300 so we can get to see violet again. Oh, specifically, okay. 3015 02:52:09,660 --> 02:52:13,320 Oh, nice. Um, let me see. Yeah, I got ISO. What do you got? How 3016 02:52:13,320 --> 02:52:13,680 many I 3017 02:52:13,680 --> 02:52:15,180 Adam Curry: got four. I'll play them for you. It's 3018 02:52:15,180 --> 02:52:15,960 Unknown: just wrong. 3019 02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:19,200 Adam Curry: Have that one I have, 3020 02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:24,920 Unknown: of course I have, okay, heads, I win. 3021 02:52:24,920 --> 02:52:30,440 Adam Curry: Tails, you cheated. And so what? Okay, I think the 3022 02:52:30,440 --> 02:52:35,420 so what is at least worth considering? Oh, okay, well, 3023 02:52:35,420 --> 02:52:36,080 sorry, 3024 02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:39,800 John C Dvorak: okay, let's start with I have two, but they're 3025 02:52:39,800 --> 02:52:41,500 gems. One is sexy. 3026 02:52:41,560 --> 02:52:44,260 Unknown: How can those two be so sexy? Oh, 3027 02:52:44,260 --> 02:52:46,300 Adam Curry: wow, already a winner in my book. 3028 02:52:47,620 --> 02:52:49,960 John C Dvorak: And then this is one of the podcast ones 3029 02:52:50,140 --> 02:52:54,520 Unknown: that is the best podcast ever. Oh, 3030 02:52:54,580 --> 02:52:57,700 Adam Curry: I don't know which one to choose. Ah, 3031 02:52:57,760 --> 02:52:59,560 Unknown: how can those two be so sexy? 3032 02:52:59,860 --> 02:53:02,940 I like that. That is the best podcast 3033 02:53:02,940 --> 02:53:03,180 ever. 3034 02:53:04,680 --> 02:53:07,200 Adam Curry: I think it's got to be the best podcast ever. What 3035 02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:07,920 Unknown: do you think? 3036 02:53:09,060 --> 02:53:14,100 John C Dvorak: Yes, muddier though, but it is more 3037 02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:15,060 appropriate. It's 3038 02:53:15,060 --> 02:53:18,540 Adam Curry: funny, it's funny, it's good, it's good. What does 3039 02:53:18,540 --> 02:53:21,680 the troll room say? They're both too long. Okay, trolls, thank 3040 02:53:21,680 --> 02:53:21,800 you. 3041 02:53:22,100 --> 02:53:22,880 Unknown: Hey everybody. It's 3042 02:53:22,880 --> 02:53:25,100 Adam Curry: time for that moment at the end of the show, John's 3043 02:53:25,100 --> 02:53:26,000 Tip of the Day. 3044 02:53:32,840 --> 02:53:33,860 Unknown: And sometimes, 3045 02:53:36,680 --> 02:53:39,860 John C Dvorak: okay, so I have to, I'm gonna do two couple 3046 02:53:39,860 --> 02:53:40,540 things today. 3047 02:53:40,600 --> 02:53:42,400 Adam Curry: Oh, you're going crazy. 3048 02:53:42,760 --> 02:53:44,740 John C Dvorak: First one is, we had to do a quick search on 3049 02:53:44,740 --> 02:53:45,460 something, right? But 3050 02:53:45,460 --> 02:53:47,320 Adam Curry: you got to stay on the mic, because you, whenever 3051 02:53:47,320 --> 02:53:48,160 you like, I'm on 3052 02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:50,740 John C Dvorak: the mic. If I wasn't on the mic, I don't know 3053 02:53:50,740 --> 02:53:55,060 what I mean, near the mic, it was I'm right on top of it, off 3054 02:53:55,060 --> 02:53:58,480 Mike. If I was any closer to the mic, to be behind me. Okay, 3055 02:53:58,480 --> 02:54:03,600 well, try that. First of all, I want to kill the recommend a 3056 02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:06,060 previous tip. You're killing a tip. 3057 02:54:06,540 --> 02:54:08,640 Adam Curry: Killing a tip. Does it have to be removed from Tip 3058 02:54:08,640 --> 02:54:09,000 of the day.net? 3059 02:54:10,380 --> 02:54:12,180 John C Dvorak: Now you can leave it there, but I think it has to 3060 02:54:12,180 --> 02:54:15,300 have a disclaimer. It's the AliExpress. 3061 02:54:17,580 --> 02:54:19,620 Adam Curry: AliExpress is is no good. 3062 02:54:21,540 --> 02:54:26,120 John C Dvorak: But that brings us to today's tip, AliExpress is 3063 02:54:26,120 --> 02:54:31,280 no good because I purposely bought two flash drives, some 3064 02:54:31,280 --> 02:54:35,120 drives, USB drives, whatever you want to call them advertising, 3065 02:54:35,300 --> 02:54:38,480 whatever you want to call them from AliExpress, 3066 02:54:38,480 --> 02:54:40,100 Adam Curry: I call them threat vectors 3067 02:54:40,580 --> 02:54:43,660 John C Dvorak: that I knew were phonies, because you don't buy a 3068 02:54:43,660 --> 02:54:49,300 terabyte USB drive for three bucks. They just just no such 3069 02:54:49,300 --> 02:54:49,480 thing. 3070 02:54:49,720 --> 02:54:52,060 Adam Curry: Wow, there was no shipping and handling, so you 3071 02:54:52,060 --> 02:54:55,600 pay it came to your door for three bucks. So $6 total. You 3072 02:54:55,600 --> 02:54:59,620 got two terabyte thumb drives, and what did you were they Pesta 3073 02:54:59,620 --> 02:55:02,040 spend? What were they? They were 3074 02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:04,380 John C Dvorak: used to they, if you put them through a system, 3075 02:55:04,380 --> 02:55:06,540 which is what I'm going to recommend, is the tip of the 3076 02:55:06,540 --> 02:55:09,480 day, there are products out there. And the one I'm going to 3077 02:55:09,480 --> 02:55:13,800 recommend is a thing called Check flash, which is written by 3078 02:55:13,800 --> 02:55:18,600 Ukrainian. And I think the current version out is 1.1 1.1 3079 02:55:19,440 --> 02:55:26,600 7.0, and it was written by Ukrainian, and it you've sticked 3080 02:55:26,720 --> 02:55:29,660 to when you buy the drive. You had to do this at the beginning, 3081 02:55:29,660 --> 02:55:33,140 because it erases everything. It will check to see if your 3082 02:55:33,140 --> 02:55:37,400 terabyte drive really contains anything near a terabyte. So you 3083 02:55:37,460 --> 02:55:41,680 so if you get a bad drive, like these phony drives I bought from 3084 02:55:41,980 --> 02:55:45,400 Ali Express. You stick it in says, No, this is not a terabyte 3085 02:55:45,400 --> 02:55:50,320 drive. This not a or 500 gigabyte drive. It's a it's a 3086 02:55:50,320 --> 02:55:58,840 one kilobyte drive. But the header inside the drive will 3087 02:55:58,840 --> 02:56:01,800 say, Oh, yeah, terabyte. You're gonna got a terabyte. So you 3088 02:56:01,800 --> 02:56:04,500 start putting something on there, and it just craps out. 3089 02:56:04,500 --> 02:56:08,040 After you put one video on, there's they won't retake it, 3090 02:56:08,040 --> 02:56:10,800 and you realize the whole thing's a scam. And what makes 3091 02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:14,400 them want to take Aliexpress off the list is that they will 3092 02:56:14,400 --> 02:56:17,100 refund your money for these phony baloney products that they 3093 02:56:17,100 --> 02:56:22,820 sell. But for a week, over a week, I went to the return site, 3094 02:56:23,060 --> 02:56:26,660 website, and he's all down. We can't do it now. Call back 3095 02:56:26,660 --> 02:56:31,760 later. So I lost like 10 bucks or whatever it cost me for these 3096 02:56:31,760 --> 02:56:32,840 two products, but 3097 02:56:32,840 --> 02:56:35,240 Adam Curry: you gained a lot of malware since you stuck that 3098 02:56:35,240 --> 02:56:36,560 thing into your machine. 3099 02:56:37,580 --> 02:56:41,440 John C Dvorak: No, there's nothing on there. Well, for one 3100 02:56:41,440 --> 02:56:44,740 thing, I didn't stick it in the machine because I ran check 3101 02:56:44,740 --> 02:56:46,240 flash immediately. Which 3102 02:56:46,480 --> 02:56:49,720 Adam Curry: a Ukrainian piece of software? You're this is good 3103 02:56:49,720 --> 02:56:52,360 John C Dvorak: stuff. This Ukrainian guy is a, is a 3104 02:56:52,600 --> 02:56:56,800 geneticist who just happened to dream this piece of software up 3105 02:56:56,800 --> 02:56:59,380 this software i i check it through this. The other thing, 3106 02:56:59,620 --> 02:57:03,000 so check Flash is the product I like. It was written for Windows 3107 02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:06,300 eight. Still works fine, but no, there are products out there, 3108 02:57:06,300 --> 02:57:09,000 and I get people can identify the best of them, but they're 3109 02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:13,260 all over the place. The things that check the download so you 3110 02:57:13,260 --> 02:57:16,500 can see if there's any malware attached to it. Now, I got this 3111 02:57:16,500 --> 02:57:20,600 one from major geeks, and it seemed to be okay. It didn't 3112 02:57:20,600 --> 02:57:23,780 seem to have any mail. Or I have products that check that. That's 3113 02:57:23,780 --> 02:57:27,800 another tip. But the tip is, when you buy a flash drive, and 3114 02:57:27,800 --> 02:57:32,900 Amazon has sold these, they have sold these fake drives that say, 3115 02:57:32,900 --> 02:57:37,040 oh, it says, you know, it'll say something like 64 gigs. And 64 3116 02:57:37,220 --> 02:57:41,920 gigs a buck. No, there's nothing on the drive. Is bull crap, so 3117 02:57:41,920 --> 02:57:45,220 you have to buy one of these checkers that checks the flash 3118 02:57:45,220 --> 02:57:48,100 drive. Anyone has a better one than check flash let me know. 3119 02:57:48,100 --> 02:57:50,980 We'll plug it in the future, but that's what you do. So what's 3120 02:57:51,220 --> 02:57:53,680 your I just bought a couple of drives recently, and I ran them 3121 02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:55,120 through, and they're fine. They're real. So 3122 02:57:55,120 --> 02:57:57,700 Adam Curry: what is the tip? The tip is, 3123 02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:00,900 John C Dvorak: when you buy a new flash drive, a thumb drive, 3124 02:58:00,900 --> 02:58:05,220 a USB drive, check it before you use it to make sure it's legit. 3125 02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:08,100 Adam Curry: All right? And that's what is that software 3126 02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:08,820 called, again. 3127 02:58:09,240 --> 02:58:11,160 John C Dvorak: Check flash, okay. 3128 02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:14,880 Adam Curry: All right. And what do you use these drives for? Do 3129 02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:17,220 you hand them out to the kids who come up to the door? Hey, 3130 02:58:17,220 --> 02:58:19,680 kids, one one wants some files. I use 3131 02:58:20,820 --> 02:58:23,480 John C Dvorak: them for a lot of different things. For example, 3132 02:58:25,160 --> 02:58:29,420 if you want to take some old DVDs and turn them into MP fours 3133 02:58:29,420 --> 02:58:32,240 and you put them on the drive to give them to one of the kids. 3134 02:58:32,660 --> 02:58:35,000 Yeah, see the easiest way to do it. 3135 02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:38,000 Adam Curry: Hey, kids want to want some DVDs. Want some 3136 02:58:38,000 --> 02:58:38,600 movies. 3137 02:58:40,400 --> 02:58:43,000 John C Dvorak: No one has a movie player. They don't play TV 3138 02:58:43,540 --> 02:58:43,720 like 3139 02:58:43,840 --> 02:58:44,500 Unknown: you. No, I 3140 02:58:44,500 --> 02:58:46,660 John C Dvorak: don't know. There's no such thing as a DVD 3141 02:58:46,660 --> 02:58:49,480 Adam Curry: I don't have DVD DVD drives anymore. 3142 02:58:50,800 --> 02:58:54,220 John C Dvorak: John, these thumb drives for this stuff. 3143 02:58:54,220 --> 02:58:56,140 Adam Curry: We do. Will you send me a thumb drive with some 3144 02:58:56,140 --> 02:58:56,680 movies? 3145 02:58:57,640 --> 02:58:58,180 Unknown: Yeah. What 3146 02:58:58,180 --> 02:59:00,280 Adam Curry: movie you want? You know, the good ones 3147 02:59:01,360 --> 02:59:03,960 John C Dvorak: I those movies are that's something between you 3148 02:59:03,960 --> 02:59:05,880 and Tina, this has been your 3149 02:59:06,180 --> 02:59:09,660 Unknown: tip of the day. Thanks for listening. Y'all 3150 02:59:09,660 --> 02:59:11,220 come back now. There 3151 02:59:11,220 --> 02:59:14,580 Adam Curry: you go. Everybody, a retracted tip and a brand new 3152 02:59:14,580 --> 02:59:15,000 tip. 3153 02:59:16,200 --> 02:59:17,520 Unknown: Check flash, 3154 02:59:18,180 --> 02:59:20,580 Adam Curry: find them at Tip of the day.net. No agenda. Fun.com. 3155 02:59:21,420 --> 02:59:25,520 There you go. Hey, coming up next on the stream. Let me see 3156 02:59:25,520 --> 02:59:30,440 what we have we've got. Oh, interesting. Bandrew says is on 3157 02:59:30,440 --> 02:59:33,860 the stream. He's a comic strip bloggers buddy. This is the 3158 02:59:33,860 --> 02:59:38,000 benefit of three minute shorts on YouTube using shotgun mics in 3159 02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:45,040 untreated rooms. Yeah, he's a mic expert. Don't get me started 3160 02:59:45,040 --> 02:59:51,040 on mics, but he's a mic expert. So end of show mixes, we have 3161 02:59:51,520 --> 02:59:56,020 let me see D's laughs, David kecta, and we got the brand new 3162 02:59:56,020 --> 02:59:59,920 guy, John Valentine, and I'm coming to you from the heart of. 3163 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,720 The Texas Hill Country home of the October 18. No agenda. Meet 3164 03:00:06,720 --> 03:00:09,420 up here in Fredericksburg, Texas in the morning. Everybody. I'm 3165 03:00:09,420 --> 03:00:10,680 Adam curry and from 3166 03:00:10,680 --> 03:00:13,140 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where it's kind of 3167 03:00:13,140 --> 03:00:16,740 overcast, maybe chili and the Blue Angels are flying around, 3168 03:00:16,740 --> 03:00:19,740 but you can't see them. That's just great. I'm John C Dvorak. 3169 03:00:19,740 --> 03:00:23,840 Adam Curry: We return on Sunday with another three hours of 3170 03:00:23,840 --> 03:00:27,560 media deconstruction, just for you. Until then, remember us at 3171 03:00:27,560 --> 03:00:31,220 no agenda donations.com. Adios, mofoza, hooey, hooey and 3172 03:00:32,540 --> 03:00:35,720 Unknown: such. I think of her as America's wine mom. And then 3173 03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:39,200 there's, I'm being Stern, so you don't realize how plastered I 3174 03:00:39,200 --> 03:00:42,280 am. And I'm making a point, and I'm talking a little girl with 3175 03:00:42,280 --> 03:00:44,920 me now I'm gonna go upstairs and don't knock on the door, because 3176 03:00:44,920 --> 03:00:45,940 I'm gonna pass out pumping 3177 03:00:49,480 --> 03:00:52,360 hyena, giving out the old Berkeley humma, distracting you 3178 03:00:52,360 --> 03:00:55,780 for the next months into the summer, no agenda, season of 3179 03:00:55,780 --> 03:00:59,020 reveal. It's here. Comrade Kamala, hey, let's kick it and 3180 03:00:59,080 --> 03:01:02,880 stick here. Sweet Willie Brown side piece, giving a horf at 3181 03:01:02,880 --> 03:01:06,120 service on her knees to get a head cheese. Pastor Manning, 3182 03:01:06,120 --> 03:01:09,300 saying that he had her nose wide open. Complete my joke, I said, 3183 03:01:09,300 --> 03:01:12,780 and was not joking. Shooting back, matter of fact, cleaning 3184 03:01:12,780 --> 03:01:16,080 his gun on a stream. A Serious Man, from what I can gleam, 3185 03:01:16,320 --> 03:01:19,440 Trump, saying that she had a lunatic laugh, but put it in her 3186 03:01:19,440 --> 03:01:23,240 head now he's inside. Let's wait for the gap saying that she's 3187 03:01:23,240 --> 03:01:27,860 gonna be so bad, not only video, but the first campaign had true 3188 03:01:27,860 --> 03:01:33,140 social and not ex I said on the far right, hell of a flex. Biden 3189 03:01:33,140 --> 03:01:35,900 is dead weight after the debate progresses for the feeble 3190 03:01:35,900 --> 03:01:39,260 minded, but maybe I'll just call him late. JD, Vance, stepping 3191 03:01:39,260 --> 03:01:42,760 up. I came to see my plane kamalaka. Chameleon is wine 3192 03:01:42,760 --> 03:01:43,360 drunk again. 3193 03:01:46,480 --> 03:01:47,800 I don't know whether it'll be peaceful. 3194 03:01:49,060 --> 03:01:51,400 He knows how to talk tough, but more importantly, he 3195 03:01:52,720 --> 03:01:53,800 knows when the time for talk 3196 03:01:57,160 --> 03:02:01,900 is over and it is time to fight for what is right. Ladies 3197 03:02:02,320 --> 03:02:09,240 and gentlemen. It's done. Meet the fake press. 3198 03:02:10,560 --> 03:02:11,580 Deface somebody. They 3199 03:02:15,120 --> 03:02:17,460 can have a beer with you. Asked for Miller, 3200 03:02:22,140 --> 03:02:25,760 pilot, Kamala flew to a fundraiser in San Francisco, a 3201 03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:28,760 city she absolutely destroyed. She destroyed San Francisco. It 3202 03:02:28,760 --> 03:02:31,880 was the best city in the country, and now it's not good 3203 03:02:31,940 --> 03:02:36,200 at all. Well, families desperately try to escape the 3204 03:02:36,200 --> 03:02:40,180 rising flood waters, and they climb onto roofs. They did 3205 03:02:40,180 --> 03:02:43,840 anything they can to live, but Kamala didn't send any 3206 03:02:43,840 --> 03:02:47,920 helicopters to rescue them, and when people sent helicopters, 3207 03:02:48,340 --> 03:02:49,480 they turned them back. 3208 03:02:52,540 --> 03:02:53,860 John C Dvorak: They're pro eating bugs. 3209 03:02:54,340 --> 03:02:57,820 Adam Curry: Entomophagy, insectivore like cricket. You 3210 03:03:21,480 --> 03:03:28,160 Unknown: proper place for breakfast. Salt and creamy, but 3211 03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:32,000 the cricket made us crushing the buzz. Comrades, you owe nothing 3212 03:03:32,060 --> 03:03:35,000 and you're happy, it will be sad. Comrade in the bugs. 3213 03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:35,840 Comrade, you owe nothing 3214 03:03:40,880 --> 03:03:43,060 and you're happy, it will be sad. Comrade the roaster. 3215 03:03:43,060 --> 03:03:47,080 Spiders also taste it, not approaching. Shake cheerleaders, 3216 03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:54,040 weebles, tell me what you're going to make in the bugs. 3217 03:03:54,100 --> 03:03:56,920 Comrade in the bugs, aren't you glad you owe nothing and you're 3218 03:03:56,920 --> 03:04:00,540 happy? Don't be sad. Comrade in the bugs. Comrade in the box, 3219 03:04:00,540 --> 03:04:02,820 glad. You owe nothing and you're happy. Don't be sad. Comrade, in 3220 03:04:02,820 --> 03:04:07,620 the buzz. Comrade, you owe nothing and you're happy. Don't 3221 03:04:07,620 --> 03:04:09,960 be sad. Comrade, you owe nothing if you're happy, don't be sad. 3222 03:04:10,020 --> 03:04:13,980 Don't be sad. Comrade, who 3223 03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:38,900 don't that is the best podcast ever you.