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John C Dvorak: No, no, no, Mom,
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Unknown: Adam curry. John C
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Adam Curry: October 13, 2024, in
this your award winning kimono

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nation. Media assassination.
Episode 1703,

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Unknown: this is no agenda, with

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Adam Curry: boots on the ground
everywhere and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas home
country, here in FEMA Region,

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number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we're

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awaiting the Argentinian gangs.
I'm John C,

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Adam Curry: D, the Venezuelan
Argentinians.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, I said
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Adam Curry: Aragua.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.

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Adam Curry: Well, we might as
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nothing we can do. It's the
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it. The news is all that's, all
that it is, is all everybody's

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going crazy. Everybody's going
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race. It's so close, so close. I

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John C Dvorak: have the race run
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brought it up. I think I can
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Unknown: Oh, hold on a sec.

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John C Dvorak: This is the, I
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Adam Curry: campaign rap.

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John C Dvorak: The campaign rep
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Unknown: President Trump is on
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We have far more people, far
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side. And the really the term
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and he holds a rally in Southern
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this hour. Meanwhile, Vice
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to serve. Her campaign is
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year old and 78 year old. Trump,
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the White House and former
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hitting the campaign trail for
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intends to campaign in rural
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planning stops Sunday and
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voting, which begins in the
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in 2020 the last time a Democrat
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the campaign. Both are aiming,
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Harris among men. Polls show the
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Adam Curry: She's very breathy
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information from the Brits, in
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LM, let's take a deep dive into
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see what's going on. Because the
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John C Dvorak: The Harris
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about her standing with young
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Barack Obama out these final of
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Unknown: You're coming up with
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excuses. I'm speaking to men
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John C Dvorak: Lulu Harris is
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Adam Curry: just this is an
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and it may just be age, but
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John C Dvorak: Mike poorly
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Adam Curry: well, this is, this
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John C Dvorak: CIA, probably
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couldn't use much of it either.
It was terrible. No, it

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Adam Curry: was. It was very
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John C Dvorak: Harris is leading
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Unknown: Obama, right there.
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tactic. I'll be honest with you,
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really persuading people. At the
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Adam Curry: have you heard this
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John C Dvorak: never heard that
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I think if I were Kamala Harris,
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Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on.
Irregular voters and low

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propensity. What is? What does
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John C Dvorak: that means they
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Adam Curry: so the oh, well,
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it sounded like a slur, but now
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voters. The kinds of people that
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enthusiastic voters, black
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the older women. These are the
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this kind of divided election
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Adam Curry: I think I found one
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propensity voters, because they
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Unknown: What you thought you
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you didn't step out there. All
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bro. All you did was piss black
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American people? Why y'all think
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folk? The Democrat Party don't
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thought you was doing with that,
we see the play. We know we see

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the play. Kamala Harris is
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you're voting for Donald Trump
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This is unacceptable, man. This
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two, Trump is coming for you.
Three, four, you won't win. No

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more. Five, six, the election
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made a mistake. 910, Trump is
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coming again. I said, What in
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Adam Curry: this man was one of
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a
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Adam Curry: but I like that one
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That guy's good. And then, of
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thing they could do is just, is
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Unknown: Trump campaigned in
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claimed he's attracting the
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with the black and especially
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love them. I have gone through
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men, black men. I don't do quite
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must say, Trump is to appear
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Adam Curry: No humor, no humor
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Unknown: don't do quite as well
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is to appear this afternoon near
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as an Hispanic round

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table. Oh, no, he's

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Adam Curry: going off to the
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Adam Curry: was going to say
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because Elon Musk said it will
happen. Is Trump? Will he go on

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Rogan? Will Trump go on Rogan?
This will decide the election.

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If Trump will go on Rogan, Trump
on Rogan. This is whatever

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people are emailing me. Oh, man.
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John C Dvorak: he's got to know
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to tell whatever. Yes,

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Adam Curry: I need to talk to
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doesn't, doesn't go, you know,
doesn't try to pull him apart,

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doesn't try to strongman him
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landing guy. Oh no, that would
be horrible. Trump could lose

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please. I'm like, and just
before you, because I know you

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have a clip lined up. What's her
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on that Chris Wallace show.
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advice for Kamala. Well, I

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Unknown: think she's got to keep
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repetitions. Everyone does know
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every space that he can, whether
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louder, meandering. It doesn't
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all the space. And so she has to
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she's going on Charlemagne, the
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know, he has a base on real
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Joe Rogan. I think she should go
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go to every local station and
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where she makes mistakes, and
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the fewer she does, the few, the
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Adam Curry: you tone deaf?

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John C Dvorak: boy. You do not
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Adam Curry: Oh, you do not want
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John C Dvorak: I There's so I
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from Coachella, yes, yeah, this,
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Adam Curry: I had we had dinner.
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recently in Los Angeles, they
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Pacific Coast Highway. Says it's
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College, there's pretty much no
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John C Dvorak: it's impossible,
but this is so the same in

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Washington. Mimi. Mimi told me a
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some event, some, some book
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bunch of these Trump supporters,
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themselves to do what they do
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Adam Curry: then what they do
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their trucks and they're all
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smoke comes out, but, but what
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John C Dvorak: winner take all
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Adam Curry: oh, wow. So he's
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John C Dvorak: he thinks he can
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to make it interesting. Well,

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Adam Curry: California was red
during Reagan. I mean, it was,

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John C Dvorak: we had other
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and so it's not like totally
impossible, but the but, you

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know, the system underneath the
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educational system, the
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have been propagandizing so well
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Adam Curry: they can maybe,
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Yeah, sure, tipping point. Hey,
um, you know what? I'm just

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gonna call it tipping point this
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John C Dvorak: So I have two
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I have to apologize in advance.
And believe me, I tried,

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Adam Curry: oh, you tried to
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John C Dvorak: there's a, there
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I'm apologizing profusely,
because this is the kind of

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thing that you specifically it
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Adam Curry: Now, is this
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audio, or it was in the Trump
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John C Dvorak: tried getting it
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do it. I tried getting it out
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Adam Curry: Okay. So what you
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go all crazy about it. So

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John C Dvorak: Adam, don't go
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I just, I have these two clips,
and we don't want to play them

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both. We had to definitely play
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pig one. And I'll preface it by
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new bits that Trump has
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needed new material, yeah. Well,
this is just he, you know, he's

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been so reluctant to be
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shot at him that he's gone about
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way of being insulting. And, you
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crowd loves it. You know, they
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it is, but he does insult. He's
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Adam Curry: it's it. I think
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first of all, America used to be
funny. We lost, we lost our

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funny decades ago, during Obama,
we basically lost our funny and

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and it just kind of reminds
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that we that we know that
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Team America. I it's, it's
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John C Dvorak: Well, not in
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of people finding this
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hilarious personally, well, but
this is he's part of the

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species, talking away, yak, yak,
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Willie Brown in the background,
some insult. Okay? And so then

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Trump goes off on that, and then
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think, except for the buzzing, I
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of doing insults, which is Biden
doing the opposite, saying, I'm

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not going to do this. And then
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Unknown: Your children are in
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with these people. These people
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Kamala is turning us into a
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happened in San Francisco when
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the things she did, she started
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victory. He says Willie Brown,
who said that? Who's Who's the

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guy? What? Stand up. This can
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I didn't say it. Remember that?
He said it, he said it, he said

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it. Do you remember when a man,
we're talking about this guy,

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Chris Christie, went off the
reservation, right? We have some

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people and some guy Shouts out
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Nobody heard it but me, you
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sir. You should not call chris
Christie a fat pig, please. He

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is not a fat pig. You shouldn't
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have to throw you out if you do
it again. He is not a fat pig.

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And you know what the process,
and that's they couldn't even

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report this because I was
defending because you're not

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allowed to use the word fat. You
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You cannot call somebody fat.
That's not allowed anymore. You

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know, you lose your job, you
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will we are going to become and
quickly the greatest, strongest,

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freest, safest and most powerful
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And on day one, I will close the
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invasion of illegal criminals
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despite all of the damage that
she has done to this state and

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to our nation in the past four
years, she's the worst. Oh,

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she's terrible. He's terrible.

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Adam Curry: You know, you should
lose your nickname, buzzkill,

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because you couldn't kill the
buzz. I

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John C Dvorak: couldn't kill
that buzz. No. But so he goes on

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about this fat pig thing. And I
just thought it was just genius.

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Adam Curry: also doing a lot of
self deprecating humor about,

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you know, oh, if I was in a
bathing suit with this beautiful

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John C Dvorak: there's Oh, yeah,
no. He has a lot of bed about

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fire sleeping on the beach.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And he

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talks about the bathing suit,
and how does he, you know, with

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the paparazzi and all the rest,
he goes on and on. He the other

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one, which we don't have to play
because the buzzing is even

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bothers me. He goes off on
shift, you know, he said, I'll

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just summarize it. He goes, he
says, you know, you can't say,

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you can't really say bad things
about people's appearance, and

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I'm never going to do that. He
says, I'm not going to talk

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about shift. You know, he's got
the smallest neck in the world.

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And he goes on and on right
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Adam Curry: oh, man. Well, by
the way, I noticed that Dennis

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Quaid was at the Coachella
appearance with Randy. Oh, I

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missed that, but wasn't it? I
thought, though the brothers had

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a huge break during Obama, or
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against Hillary, if I recall, is
like, you know, didn't Dennis

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Quaid completely shun his
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John C Dvorak: It's possible.
But right now, ever since Dennis

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Quaid played Reagan, right,
right, right, the him and but

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him and Randy were both there,
yeah? Along with a lot of other

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celebrities from Hollywood and
elsewhere, it was a pretty

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interesting event, except for
the buzzing, yeah,

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Adam Curry: Dennis Quaid, I saw
him interviewed on, what was he

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interviewed on? It was Tucker.
He was radically saved in AA, I

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think, yeah, he's a Christian.
So he's a real problem. Now,

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he'll never work again.

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John C Dvorak: He'll never work
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Adam Curry: Never Work Again.
So, speaking of that, so Bill

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Maher, I guess, you know,
besides the black men, oh, now

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we're worried about the
Christians. You know, I mean,

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excuse me, Christian
nationalists. Bill Maher hired

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that guy on Tim, Alberta. He's
the guy that, I guess he his dad

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was a pastor, and then he left
the church and has been writing

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the books about how dangerous
they all are. And it's all, ooh,

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we can't have any of this. And
it. Was interesting, because in

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the middle of this interview,
this just this big lie, which

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was really, I mean, does this
guy have a different Bible than

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me? Evangelicals must see a
bigger picture that than we see

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in Donald Trump. What is that?
Look? I

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Unknown: think Bill. No,

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Adam Curry: you gotta go. Oh,
look, I think Bill. Look, I

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think I'm gonna try that on you.
Look, I think John, let me just

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tell you, Look, we see and look

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Unknown: that. Look, I think,
Bill, there is a persecution

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complex at work here that may
seem silly and overblown to a

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lot of people from the outside
looking in, right, but for folks

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inside the church, who believe
that the country is slipping

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away from them, that they no
longer recognize the Christian

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America of their youth, and they
believe that Donald Trump is an

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imperfect vessel for God's
perfect will. And they look at

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him and say, well, the
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Maybe we need a barbarian to
protect us. And I think in many

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ways, there's almost a mercenary
relationship here where Donald

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Trump's bad behavior almost
reinforces their support,

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because they look at him and
say, Well, no good Christian man

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is capable of protecting us in
the way that he is right. And so

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in a way, it almost liberates
him to behave badly and to say

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whatever he wants and

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John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
Why was he behaving badly?

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Because he's calling chris
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Adam Curry: very, very unholy. I
don't know he's just he's

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behaving badly.

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John C Dvorak: I keep you hear
stuff like this. There was, I

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have a couple of clips coming
up, and it's the same thing

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where they just throw this stuff
out there, and it's just like,

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what do you what are you
referring to? What specifically

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is he doing? It's

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Adam Curry: just one now. It's
just one of those generally

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accepted things. Well, Trump is
just, you know, you know, the

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whole rundown race. I

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John C Dvorak: had a friend, a
friend of mine, call me. They're

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talking about how I don't know
how they can support Trump,

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because he's lying all the time.
I said, What are you talking

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about? Well, he said that Jamie
Dimon supporting him, and Jamie

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Dimon came out and said he
wasn't supporting him. So that's

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somehow and even though that
could not be, interestingly

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enough, Jamie Dimon could be
supporting him. You know, he

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could have said something to
Trump, and Trump assumed he was

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a supporting Well,

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Adam Curry: Trump is, you know,
there's rumors that he wants him

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to be the Fed chair or Secretary
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John C Dvorak: So it's possible
that, you know, it's just, you

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know, one these are, aren't the
kind of lies that are important

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if it's even a lie. This is like
the 30,000 lies that they were

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documented with during Trump
being in office, and half of

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them were, Trump said 15 when
the number was 16. Oh, he's a

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liar. He said 15 when it's 16.
You know, he's just this kind of

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these, and they just accept it
as a norm, and to say that he's

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behaving badly. What
specifically, I have a couple

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clips coming up that I'm going,
it's the same thing. They just

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throw this thing in. They never
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Adam Curry: well, so what, what
got my attention on this is some

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persecution complex. And
therefore the Christians are

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like, well, we can just bring
the devil in. That's no we can

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just bring in Satan to beat down
Satan, or some it's the logic

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escapes me of what he's saying,
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Unknown: they look at him and
say, Well, no good Christian man

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is capable of protecting us in
the way that he is right. And

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so, in a way, it almost
liberates him to behave badly

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and to say whatever he wants.
And sort of just creates this,

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this ongoing relationship where
whatever he says and does, his

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support remains that he's

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Adam Curry: okay. So then, so
then this guy's thumbing through

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his Bible. Was like, Oh, I got
one. I know. I know. I know who

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he is. He's the badass
gunfighter who becomes they give

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him the badge, yeah, to be the
sheriff, even they know who he

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is, or he's Cyrus. I've heard
that Cyrus. You explain that one

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to us who is Cyrus in the Bible?
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Unknown: Cyrus is the Old
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allows the Jews to go back and
rebuild the temple, right? And

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the idea being that he's not one
of them, but he protects them,

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and that Trump in his own way,
although certainly you do have a

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subset of these folks who
believe that Trump actually is a

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Christian, that he had a born
again experience in the White

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House, that Mike Pence led him
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That's funny, which would make
the events of January 6. I mean,

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if someone led me to Christ, I
feel like I'd probably try to

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help them if they were, you
know, in danger at the Capitol,

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but set that aside. But most,
most folks, I think, are pretty

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clear eyed about who Trump is.
They're not under any illusions

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about him being a, you know,
Bible school, Sunday school,

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Bible reading guy. It's just
that they view him as someone

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who's capable of protecting them
from a culture. That has slipped

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away in a country that they
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Adam Curry: This is This is very
strange, because if you look at

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the core issues in America that
that this guy's and Bill Maher

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is just skirting, it's abortion,
it's transgenderism, and it's

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borders, that's really the only
thing that people care about.

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But this guy summoned the
economy. Well, yes, in the but,

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you know, Christians, they all
got money. They don't load it.

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It's not a problem. Oh, yeah.
And by the way, this is only

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white Christians. Black
Christians don't count.

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Unknown: I think it's important
to distinguish real persecution

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from manufactured persecution.
So

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Adam Curry: he's back to the
persecution thing. And this is

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what i This is the best part of
this you're talking about. Well,

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that he, he believes that
Christians, uh, evangelicals,

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whatever, advertising that they
feel persecuted, and that that

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is why they want Trump, because
Trump will set them free

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somehow. That's his whole, his
whole thing. We got Cyrus from

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Persia, and he protected the
Jews. Like, what are you talking

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about,

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Unknown: right? So you have
Christians all around the world,

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in China, in India, in Sub
Saharan Africa, yeah, they're

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really persecuted. Who could
never conceive of having

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political power, of cultural
influence of any sort of

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privileged status conferred upon
them because of their faith

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affiliation, and in some way
that helps the Christian

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movement in these areas to
thrive and to be sort of

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organically authentic

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Adam Curry: around going
rousted.

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John C Dvorak: They're gone
idiots.

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Unknown: The American church.
It's obviously a very different

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story, in part, because
privilege and status and power

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is all we've ever known. And so
now, when you see the

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demographics beginning to shift
slowly, but they are shifting.

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And when you look at the
prospect of, what does a post

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Christian America look like,
what does it represent, I think

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to a lot of these folks here in
the White evangelical movement,

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certainly the world that I came
out of, they perceive it as a

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very real threat to them, and
they're desperate to sort of

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hold on to what they have. But I
think the story of Christianity,

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to your point, is about real
persecution and how your faith

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is strong enough in the face of
whatever those challenges are to

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persevere, but we are at a stage
now where we're sort of

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manufacturing these threats in
order to justify the ways in

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which we treat people who are
not us. This

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Adam Curry: is completely
bizarre, what this guy is

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saying. And Bill Maher's like,
oh yeah, oh yeah. So that, so

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this,

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John C Dvorak: I don't even
understand what he meant by that

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last comment.

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Adam Curry: Well, all that, I
think he's trying to say is that

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we're in post Christian America,
which, I mean, we're certainly

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not in post faith America. If
you take all the different

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faiths in America, it's probably
75 80% believes in something,

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including Islam. But this guy,
and he thinks that the that the

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American church feels
persecuted, whereas I think he's

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got it wrong. What happened is
the American church woke up

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during not all, but a portion of
it woke up during covid and

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went, hold on a second. The
government just shut us down.

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This is a much bigger issue, not
about persecution. This is the

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actual fundamentals of our
country, and that's in this

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final call. You

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Unknown: know, everyone has a
different definition for

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Christian nationalism, and
that's part of the problem,

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because we don't know exactly
how to define it. Just call

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them. KKK, it's easier to me.
Christian nationalism is really

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just the marriage of bad history
and bad theology. Here we go,

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and one is a prerequisite for
the other. Once you've gone

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around to the school boards and
the legislatures, once you have

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changed the curriculum, once you
have rewritten history,

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literally rewritten history
books, to convince people that,

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in fact this was born to be a
Christian nation, that in fact

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the establishment clause and the
First Amendment, that those

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things were sort of an
elaborate, three dimensional

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wink and nod from the founders
that they really did want for us

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to be an explicitly Christian
nation governed by European

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Christian men, and that they
were fine with an eventual

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theocratic takeover of our
governing institutions.

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Can you believe

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Adam Curry: this? Wow, dude.
Have you read the Declaration of

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Independence? Have you read the
Constitution? Have you? Have you

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even looked at the people who
signed it? They're being

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John C Dvorak: they're looking
forward to the theocratic

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takeover.

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Adam Curry: This is like, what's
true? What

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John C Dvorak: trend line has he
talking about? I haven't seen

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zero evidence of this. No. And
you're, if any would be a

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Christian nationalist or
described as such, it would be

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you, not me. Yes, completely,
and I don't see any evidence

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that you're a Christian
nationalist. I

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Adam Curry: am, though I met, of
course, I am, of course, of

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course. What I don't know what
he's defining as a Christian

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nationalist. But yes, it's the
establishment clause that all

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comes down to this. They are.
Afraid for some reason that the

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and this, this goes back to that
crazy guy about the I

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John C Dvorak: preface before
you say what they're afraid of.

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Let's start with the premise
that we're dealing with out and

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out atheists. Yes, Bill Moore in
particular, and then this guy is

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an obvious atheist, and they're
promoting atheism, which is, you

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00:30:23,540 --> 00:30:25,760
know, you can promote whatever
you want. That's the point of

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00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,100
free speech, yes, and it and but
let's not give let's not make it

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more out of it than atheism,
which is what we're dealing with

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here. And it's fine. You want to
be an atheist. It's your

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00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,460
business,

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00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:42,580
Adam Curry: right? But what he's
trying to say is the danger here

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of the Christian nationalists?
Is they? They believe that the

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government should, you know,
should only be run by

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Christians, and that everyone
needs to pray every morning, and

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then, just like Insanity, it's
insanity where and taking the

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Establishment Clause of the
First Amendment, and saying, Oh

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yeah, you know the they wanted
to make sure that we can get in

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and they can run the run the
whole thing like a church, but

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it's exactly the opposite. This
guy is accusing people of that

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of which the atheists like him
are guilty of themselves, and

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finish it up,

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Unknown: and that they were fine
with an eventual theocratic

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takeover of our governing
institutions once you get to

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that place, oh, then where you
accept that piece of history as

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being true, then suddenly the
way that you read Scripture is

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very different, and it becomes
very easy for you to distort

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basic theology. The ways in
which Jesus commands us to look

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forward to a kingdom that is not
of this world. You begin to

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think that actually that kingdom
is in this world, that it is

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here. It is not what.

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John C Dvorak: How did it go
from A to B? I

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Adam Curry: don't know. It was
completely bizarre and fear

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00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:58,900
mongering over nothing other
than Christians. They might,

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00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:03,360
might, might, maybe, might, we
might get 10% more to vote this,

563
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,800
this election, maybe is

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00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,080
John C Dvorak: all it's about.
Of course, this is just about

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scaring the dumb dummies out
there, of course, into believing

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this. And that's going on, and
Trump's somehow gonna be part of

567
00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:18,240
it, and he has to be stopped,
yeah, so we can put in an

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00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,980
atheist like Kamala Harris, yes,
who's a dummy,

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Adam Curry: whereas I can tell
you, the only thing the

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Christian nationalists are
really talking about is a

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spiritual war between this guy
evil and good. That's it. That's

572
00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:38,300
it. Hey, I just thought it was
kind of interesting that this is

573
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:41,860
this, this, if the fear is is
sad in a way. Anyway, what you

574
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:42,220
got?

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John C Dvorak: What do I have?
You had? You said, Yeah, throw

576
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:48,160
it to me out of the blue. I
mean,

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Adam Curry: I can, you said, I
have a series of clips right

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after this. And so

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John C Dvorak: that's, I had the
Trump clips. I got the shift

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clip. I got, you know, okay,
well,

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Adam Curry: then I have, I have
some serious Trump clips, kind

582
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,800
of serious. Well,

583
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John C Dvorak: I Please play. I
will respond to these clips, and

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then maybe I'll come up with
something. Yes, he was

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Adam Curry: on Maria Bartiromo,
you know, bromp, yeah, yeah, no,

586
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I missed that, not on her, but
on her show.

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Unknown: Hey, oh, you

588
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:19,860
need some news in your Detroit
speech with news proposals, but

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I want to get your take on your
economic policy, first, debt and

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00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:26,060
deficits, because you've said
you want to eliminate taxes on

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00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:29,660
tips, eliminate taxes on Social
Security, on overtime pay,

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00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:33,680
ending the double taxation of
Americans living abroad, a

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00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,920
proposal to make car loans
interest tax deductible. That

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was, that was said. You said
that you even introduced this

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00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,980
15% corporate tax rate for
companies to produce an American

596
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:44,620
America and hire American
workers.

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Adam Curry: So, so far, I'm
like, Yeah, let's do all that.

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Let's, I didn't know about the
car loan.

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John C Dvorak: Yes, that's new.
Oh, he's just that that came. I

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think he maybe been introduced
at Coachella. And he does make a

601
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point at Coachella, another
thing he says, which is that I

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00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,580
don't under and which is
something I've been saying. I

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00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:05,940
don't understand how you can run
for president, the presidency

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and and promise tax increases
and hope to get support. No

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00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:15,300
which is what camel is doing.
I'm gonna raise everybody's

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00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:19,020
taxes. I'm gonna rich. I'm
gonna, you know, gouge the rich

607
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and gouge the everyone you know
vote for me. It doesn't make

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sense. I think the

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Adam Curry: idea of making your
car loan tax deductible is

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genius. It

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00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,060
John C Dvorak: was always
deductible until 1986

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00:34:34,219 --> 00:34:39,439
Adam Curry: oh, who changed
that? Reagan? Why did he change

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that? We were out of money. I
have

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John C Dvorak: no idea was to
during some period where that

615
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was seemed like a good idea at
the time, and no one ever

616
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reversed it, hmm.

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Adam Curry: Well, I didn't know
that. But now that you know,

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some people are paying nine and
10% you look, you look at the

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car commercials, the lease, the
lease is amazing. This will only

620
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:00,180
cost you four nine to nine a
month. And then you look at. You

621
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freeze the frame, you look at
the bottom with an $8,000 down

622
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,280
payment. Okay, that seems like a
good deal.

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John C Dvorak: You have to, by
the way. This is the reason you

624
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:14,160
want to get a 4k TV. What you
just said, oh, yeah, so you can

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00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,620
see that stuff, so you can read
the fine print. I, and I wanted,

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00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:18,840
I don't want to go off the
topic, but I just want to say

627
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,800
the fine print. Have you seen
those ads where they say, Oh,

628
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,680
this is for, you know, you get a
special phone. They give you a

629
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free phone, and it tells you
what you're saying so you can

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00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:29,420
hear Johnny the baseball player,

631
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,240
Adam Curry: like this a Medicare
scam.

632
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John C Dvorak: If you read the
fine print the whole thing, they

633
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route the call through India,
and some guy listens in on the

634
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,480
call and types in what he says.
It says very clearly. It's not

635
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,060
actually technology. It's just a
no, there's no technology

636
00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:49,720
involved.

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00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,800
Adam Curry: It's a $5 phone, or
$3 phone, because it's just a

638
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,680
phone with big, big buttons and
then, well, it's

639
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,780
John C Dvorak: also got a screen
that you can read from the

640
00:35:58,780 --> 00:36:02,520
screen. Oh, okay, wow. So
there's no AI, huh? No, it's

641
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,680
just some guy, some guy. Okay,

642
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,940
Adam Curry: type this out. Does
it say that some guy in India

643
00:36:08,940 --> 00:36:11,520
John C Dvorak: will be might as
well say some guy,

644
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:14,700
Adam Curry: some guy, some guy
in India is typing this out for

645
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:15,720
you, Granny. But

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00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,220
Unknown: how will you pay for
it? The Committee for

647
00:36:17,220 --> 00:36:20,120
Responsible Budget says your
plans will increase the debt by

648
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,960
$7.5 trillion but they don't
know that the Wall Street

649
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,180
Journal said that your plans
will increase the debt and

650
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:27,800
deficits more than Kamala
Harris's.

651
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If I do this, you're going to
have car companies coming back

652
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,360
to the country because of the
taxes and the tariffs. The

653
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,900
tariffs will protect them when
they come in, so they will

654
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,860
protect from other companies
coming in, because if the other

655
00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:44,680
companies don't come in, they're
going to have to pay massive

656
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,700
tariffs. And that's it. So I was
told, here's what was happening.

657
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:53,260
China was building massive car
plants, big car plants in

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00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:57,040
Mexico. That's the new one. And
I just spoke to the man that

659
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,540
does it. He's a friend of mine,
and I said, How's it going with

660
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:03,060
Mexico. What's happening with
the car plants? He said, Sir,

661
00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:06,060
they've totally stopped. I said,
Why did they stop? Because they

662
00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:07,380
think you're going to be elected

663
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:10,740
Adam Curry: as a friend of mine,
John, whenever I call you, I

664
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:13,860
want you to say, Sir, okay,
because I think that's very

665
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:16,620
reasonable. It's very reasonable
if I ask you a question as a

666
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:17,640
friend, yes, sir.

667
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,360
John C Dvorak: Yes, sir. All
right, so

668
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,620
Adam Curry: how are you going to
pay for it?

669
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:22,280
Unknown: So I'm just trying to
understand how you're going to

670
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,800
pay for all of this, no tax on
stuff. And you said that there's

671
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,960
a lot of fat in government. I

672
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,600
gave you an answer, growth.
We're going to grow at a level

673
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,180
that you've never seen before,
and we're going to have

674
00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:35,000
tremendous jobs, and we're going
to have companies coming in left

675
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,400
and right, and they're going to
build building factories, going

676
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,340
to take over empty hulks that
are all over the place from

677
00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:41,680
companies that left. But you've

678
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,260
also said that there's a lot of
fat in government that you would

679
00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:48,100
want to so what agencies would
you want to shut down? Well,

680
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,580
let me, let me have you ask
another person that, because I'm

681
00:37:51,580 --> 00:37:56,740
going to have Elon Musk. He's he
is dying to do this. You know,

682
00:37:56,740 --> 00:37:59,260
he's a great business guy.
Actually, do you think of him

683
00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:02,160
for science and rockets and
every time I think he's telling

684
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,420
me about a new screw, this was
developed, a new screw. Screws

685
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:07,620
are difficult. Wait a minute,

686
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,400
Adam Curry: John, have you heard
about the new screw? No,

687
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:13,980
John C Dvorak: I have not heard
about the new screw that he's

688
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:15,240
developed. It

689
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,700
Adam Curry: may be a loose
screw, but there's a new screw,

690
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:21,020
apparently. And it's amazing
this screw, it's the most

691
00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:24,740
beautiful screw. It screws like
no one else can screw. You think

692
00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:27,560
Unknown: he's telling me about a
new screw. This was developed.

693
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:31,220
He's developed a new screw.
Screws are difficult, and it's

694
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,600
made out of titanium, by the
way.

695
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Adam Curry: Screws are
difficult, just so you know,

696
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,380
it's a new screw is an easy
screw. Listen, Elon's an easy

697
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:45,220
screw built

698
00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:48,340
Unknown: a new screw. Screws are
difficult, and it's made out of

699
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:51,940
titanium, and it's so exciting.
But you know what so exciting? A

700
00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:55,120
great business guy, and he's a
great cost cutter, you've seen

701
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,380
that, and he said, I could cut
costs without affecting anybody.

702
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,520
So he will be in the cabinet,
not in the cabinet. He doesn't

703
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,580
want to be in the cab. He just
wants to be in charge of cost

704
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:09,000
cutting. Who have a new
position, Secretary of cost

705
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,960
cutting. Okay?

706
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:12,600
Adam Curry: So he's not in the
cabinet, but he's the secretary

707
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,560
of cost cutting. Okay, this is,
this needs to be fleshed out,

708
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,960
okay, so just, I'm just going to
take a little side, side step on

709
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,820
Elon, and then we can get off
the topic, because lot of people

710
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,060
looking at his Starlink that
he's been giving away to the

711
00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:34,580
hurricane victims, particularly
North in West North Carolina, by

712
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:38,960
the way, shout out to Bruce.
Bruce is 72 he's been without

713
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,180
power for 17 days. So I sure,
I'm sure, hope he gets his power

714
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:49,240
back. So a lot of bad stuff
going on up there. And so now

715
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:52,000
everyone has seen that these
starlinks that he's been

716
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,420
bringing in, you still have to
buy the equipment. It's

717
00:39:55,420 --> 00:40:01,980
discounted. So instead of $400 I
think it's 299 And, and he's

718
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:04,140
only giving you a month free.
No,

719
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:05,940
John C Dvorak: he's giving me,
he says, free till the end of

720
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:07,680
the year. Oh, okay. Well,

721
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,280
Adam Curry: every report I saw
was, was a free month, yeah, no,

722
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,360
it's free till the end of the
year. All right, so, you know?

723
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,260
Okay. And then I was thinking,
you know? And I got this clip

724
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,380
from Mike Benz because he said
something really interesting on

725
00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:28,760
the Sean Ryan podcast. All of
this stuff that Elon does is

726
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,160
really, it's irrelevant compared
to Starlink. Starlink is really

727
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,940
the main business. And when I
look at what he's, you know,

728
00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:42,520
this deal that he's giving to
the people in North Carolina.

729
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,200
I'm like, you know, the US
taxpayer paid for this. This is

730
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,280
a military system. We can all
pretend it wasn't a military

731
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,460
system first, but it was always
been a military communication

732
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:59,800
system that has a sheen of
consumerism over it, which is

733
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,700
the same as Tesla. You know,
Tesla was, Oh, look at this,

734
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,160
beautiful. Everyone loves this.
They're so sexy, they're so

735
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,160
great. They drive themselves.
But it really was part of the

736
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,520
climate change agenda, and it
really furthered the climate

737
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,940
change agenda for many years,
until, you know, people are now,

738
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,840
you know, probably a little less
happy about them. So Starlink,

739
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,040
for my money, they should be
giving it away for free for two

740
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,640
years to these people, because
we basically paid for it the way

741
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,880
I see it. I don't have physical
receipts, but I'm pretty sure

742
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,780
that's what it is. Now. Everyone
loves Starlink. I have it as a

743
00:41:32,780 --> 00:41:37,760
backup. You're considering it as
a backup. So that really means

744
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,040
that there can be a single point
of failure. There can be a

745
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,800
single point of censorship,
which I don't expect, but there

746
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:53,620
certainly can be a single point
of surveillance and Mike Benz

747
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:55,120
and Sean Ryan diving. Would

748
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,920
John C Dvorak: that be different
than the single point of

749
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560
surveillance of that building,
the at&t building in San

750
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,040
Francisco, there on whatever
Fourth Street? Yeah, I

751
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,260
Adam Curry: think it's, I think
it's a little different because

752
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:05,220
for the NSA

753
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160
John C Dvorak: operation in
Utah, well,

754
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:10,680
Adam Curry: yes, I think it is.
I mean, this is a much more

755
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,800
direct. You're directly
connected. You can target, okay,

756
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,120
I need to listen to that guy,
boom, tap into that guy. It's, I

757
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,640
think it's a little easier,
actually, then. So first at&t,

758
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,880
you know they were making a
whole copy of the internet and

759
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,840
the NSA. I mean, they, they,
they have to record everything

760
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,420
that you go back and try and
find it. In this case, it's very

761
00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:35,600
targeted, like, Oh, I know where
Dvorak is. Let's see what he's

762
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,680
doing. So I think it is
different. So now we go to the

763
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Brazil thing. Why did Elon
buckle to the Brazilian

764
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,380
government over x? It was really
about Starlink. And it starts to

765
00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:49,300
come together when you hear
this. China

766
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:54,700
Unknown: is has just launched
this new SpaceX competitor that

767
00:42:54,820 --> 00:42:59,020
just recently put its first
constellation of its of its

768
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:06,600
satellite mega project in play,
and this Starlink competitor,

769
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,580
Starlink market killer, is
something that I would not be

770
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:16,860
surprised if Brazil pursues as a
Starlink substitute. Lula

771
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,320
hitched his star to China, to
China. Bolsonaro was very

772
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,920
hostile to Chinese soft power
and Chinese investment in

773
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,060
Brazil. And Lula, who, again,
was backed by the US State

774
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:32,360
Department. They wanted him to
win. They sick the State

775
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,140
Department, the CIA and the DoD
on Bolsonaro to, you know, to

776
00:43:36,140 --> 00:43:39,560
warn him against questioning the
election. They didn't do that to

777
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Lula. And again, this whole
censorship apparatus was set up

778
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,040
by the State Department and
USAID to kill Bolsonaro

779
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,800
political support. So they
wanted Lula to win. And Lula has

780
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,980
reversed decades of of China
hostilities, and immediately, as

781
00:43:56,980 --> 00:44:00,100
soon as he got into office,
declared that, effectively,

782
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:03,420
China is the linchpin of
Brazil's new economic

783
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:06,900
development plan, that they're
going to be a, you know, a long

784
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,660
distance, part of China's Belt
and Road Initiative. And they're

785
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:13,800
there. So they are now pitching
their star to China,

786
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,800
Adam Curry: which means, who is
this guy going to? Mike Benz,

787
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,860
Unknown: well, that's Mike
bends. Okay, need China's

788
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,820
they're gonna do favors for
China, for China to do favors in

789
00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:23,240
kind.

790
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,420
Adam Curry: So I didn't know
that China had launched a new

791
00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:29,420
Starlink competitor. And when
you have a country like Brazil

792
00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:33,620
which has geo political, geo
strategic importance to us,

793
00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:37,700
yeah, we want to have Starlink
be the be the pipe in. We can't

794
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:43,900
have the Chinese doing that. I
there's something up with this.

795
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:44,560
Isn't a short

796
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,600
John C Dvorak: there's something
up with it. But I'm not seeing

797
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,540
it's gonna that technology on
Starlink is so screwy.

798
00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:55,420
Adam Curry: Screwy. What do you
mean? Screwy?

799
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,440
John C Dvorak: It's it's a
screwy technology, if you'd ever

800
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:03,360
Exam. And how those antennas
work, because it's a moving

801
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,420
target. It's constantly moving.
You. There is no fixed

802
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:09,480
satellite. It's not like a
satellite, you know, any sort of

803
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,360
geostationary satellite that
sits there, and you just go back

804
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,100
and forth at a even though you
can't do the fixed satellite at

805
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:20,420
low orbit like that, it's
moving. It's a moving target.

806
00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:23,900
And the antenna that you're
using at your end has a bunch of

807
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:29,600
little antennas that have that
essentially target the movement

808
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,540
and then follow it and then pass
it off to the next one. It's,

809
00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:37,100
it's almost like kind of a
virtual cell sense, cell phone

810
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,420
system as you're driving down
Highway five, and it keeps

811
00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:43,660
changing cells. Yeah, it's doing
that in real time with a

812
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:48,880
satellite moving at high speeds
with it, with a with an antenna

813
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,320
array that's in that, that dish
of yours that is just screwy.

814
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,860
It's a crazy idea that anyone
can even pull this off that, and

815
00:45:56,860 --> 00:45:59,500
in fact, that it works as a
miracle, seems to me, Yeah,

816
00:45:59,500 --> 00:45:59,860
seems

817
00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:06,240
Adam Curry: like a perfect
something that, well, all I know

818
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:10,020
is that there was a huge
fructose at the beginning or a

819
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:14,940
couple months into the full
scale invasion of Ukraine, and

820
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:18,900
Elon Musk apparently didn't turn
on, or it was turn we don't know

821
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:22,760
who turns on or Who turns off.
So when you have militaries or

822
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,020
paramilitaries or terrorists,
anything that we might happen to

823
00:46:27,020 --> 00:46:30,380
control, you know, we want to
make sure that they can use the

824
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:33,200
internet and encrypt it or not,
whatever they have, this

825
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,880
communication system which kicks
everything else's ass compared

826
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,100
to these sat phones and the, you
know, 9600 baud communication

827
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,540
you get. This is an amazing new
thing. And you know, we can't

828
00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:51,340
have China up there taking over
our business, or, even worse,

829
00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:54,520
knocking some of these
satellites out. Who knows? Who

830
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,120
knows what you can do? Here's
another 45 seconds. I

831
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,960
Unknown: would not be surprised
if part of what's happening

832
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,600
right now with tack, with taking
out Starlink, is an attempt to

833
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:12,840
do either a favor, directly or
indirectly, for their their new

834
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,860
Chinese partners and or to
supplant Starlink altogether

835
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,780
with the this new Chinese
competitor who is looking to get

836
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:26,120
market reach and capturing, you
know, the 10th largest economy

837
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,020
in the world would be incredible
as a beachhead, not just in

838
00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:35,300
Brazil, but also in all of South
America. But this also begs very

839
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:39,860
strange questions about why it
is the US State Department so

840
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:44,560
vociferously backed Lula, when
Lula so vosis vociferously backs

841
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,660
China. So

842
00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:49,060
Adam Curry: there's a lot of
things at play here, and somehow

843
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,360
there's

844
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,420
John C Dvorak: a lot of things
at play. If any of this is true,

845
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,560
correct?

846
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,620
Adam Curry: I have no idea if
the Chinese system is is real or

847
00:47:56,620 --> 00:47:57,100
not. I'm

848
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,900
John C Dvorak: well know that.
But how much did the State

849
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:01,800
Department back Lula, and how
much did the State Department

850
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,440
want China to go into Brazil.
This doesn't make any sense.

851
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:04,800
He's

852
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,740
Adam Curry: done all. He's done
a lot of deconstruction of that.

853
00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:12,480
I mean, it's he has done a lot
on that. I mean, you know, Mike

854
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Benz was in the State
Department. I think his problem

855
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,540
is he does stuff like this where
he said, Oh, it's like this,

856
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:21,800
and, oh, but you can go look at
my ex post, and you can watch

857
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,080
for an hour and a half, you
understand exactly what they

858
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,160
did, which is his problem. It's
very hard to just kind of

859
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,680
distill it down, but my
overarching point is Elon is

860
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,460
important because he is the
public face of our rockets, the

861
00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:45,580
Starlink, which is just, it's a
military system, and it's, and

862
00:48:45,580 --> 00:48:48,640
it's important when you when you
connect people, connection is

863
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,920
protection. When you connect
people, that brings economic

864
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,220
prosperity. It's, it's
undeniable, and the more

865
00:48:57,220 --> 00:49:02,520
bandwidth, the better. So, so
Trump, you know, coming up with

866
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,420
this, oh, I'll have the
secretary of cost cutting. Okay,

867
00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:08,460
well, that'll be the day.

868
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:12,660
John C Dvorak: Can you see that?
Yeah, well, that, yeah, we've

869
00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:16,860
only heard those promises since
everyone's lifetime. Yeah, yeah,

870
00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:20,420
right. So anyway, I mean, this
began with Hoover.

871
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,780
Adam Curry: What did Hoover say?
Same

872
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:26,960
John C Dvorak: thing, oh, we're
gonna shrink government. It's

873
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,000
been growing ever since, yeah,

874
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,280
Adam Curry: yeah. Elon can come
in and do it today. He's gonna

875
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:40,580
stop the war in in Ukraine in a
day. Yeah, vote for me. This is

876
00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:43,000
what. This is what, this is what
I mean is everyone's going

877
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,820
crazy, and then, you know, we'll
see Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's going

878
00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:52,960
to determine the winner of this
election. Everyone knows it.

879
00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:54,040
That

880
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,820
John C Dvorak: seems unlikely. I
think most people pretty much

881
00:49:57,820 --> 00:50:00,360
made up their minds of what
they're going to do. I. Far as I

882
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,320
can tell. Well, except

883
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,660
Adam Curry: for the black men,
the big, beautiful black men,

884
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,440
they've now finally come out. If
they actually go and vote,

885
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,220
that'll make a difference. This
is what Moe has been saying for

886
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:12,300
as long as I've known him.

887
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,840
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes, with
one of his basic thesis, yeah.

888
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,100
Let's listen to this little NPR
report on voter fraud by

889
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:23,540
government. The

890
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:28,040
Unknown: Justice Department is
suing the state of Virginia over

891
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,460
a program to remove voters from
its election polls in the lead

892
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:35,660
up to this November's elections,
if DMV records don't indicate US

893
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:39,080
citizenship. Federal law
prohibits purges from voter

894
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,400
rolls within the 98 period
leading up to an election the

895
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,820
system put in place by executive
order by Republican Governor

896
00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:48,940
Glenn youngkin has already faced
lawsuits from immigration rights

897
00:50:48,940 --> 00:50:53,500
groups. Youngkin calls the suit
politically motivated. The DOJ

898
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:57,400
recently filed suit against
Alabama over similar voter roll

899
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:58,300
purges. I got

900
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,020
Adam Curry: a note from one of
our producers. He says his his

901
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:08,160
sister, think his sister and his
mom live in California, and his

902
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,760
sister what his sister and his
mom live in California, and

903
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,140
neither of them got their ballot
in the mail. And he says, that's

904
00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:19,260
the first time it's ever
happened. There's something

905
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:22,640
this. I mean, obviously there's
my reply to was, yes,

906
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:25,700
everybody's cheating this time
around. Hello, Oh, I did it.

907
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:27,680
Hello, hello, you

908
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,660
John C Dvorak: did it. Yes, you
did.

909
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,000
Adam Curry: I can't help. I
can't help. Everyone's

910
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,900
John C Dvorak: cheating. You
used to be, it used to be so

911
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:39,980
good at stopping yourself. I'm
slipping and you've lost it.

912
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Adam Curry: I've lost my I can't
do it. I keep saying the W word

913
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:50,860
from time to time as well. It's,
it's so prevalent, so prevalent

914
00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:55,660
everywhere. They overdid it.
They had a dream about that. You

915
00:51:55,660 --> 00:51:59,200
had a dream about the W word?
Yeah. What happened? Yeah.

916
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,500
John C Dvorak: We were having
this competition. The two of us

917
00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:06,000
and I had, I had stopped saying
it, and you couldn't stop saying

918
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,880
it. It was a, was a strange
dream. Somebody was, I remember,

919
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,880
I was working on the ascent, but
as an inspector for trail

920
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
mobile. And some minute, wait a
minute,

921
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,320
Adam Curry: trail mobile, yeah,

922
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,100
John C Dvorak: trail mobile.
This

923
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,800
Adam Curry: is a new story. I
don't know anything about. No, I

924
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,400
think it's been brought up
before is trailmobile.

925
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,280
John C Dvorak: Trailmobile used
to make trailers and cargo

926
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,720
containers for Matson. And you
know that was I worked on the

927
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,520
cargo container alarm for trains

928
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,360
Adam Curry: or for trucks,

929
00:52:33,260 --> 00:52:36,080
John C Dvorak: for ships. Oh,
ships, okay, you know those

930
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,900
containers that put on the back
of a truck? And, yeah, yeah.

931
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,100
This is the early days of it.
This is when it first began,

932
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:44,980
when containerized shipping
first began. They had a whole

933
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:48,640
line there making these things.
And this guy says to me, he's,

934
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,400
you know? He says, hey, you
know, I started dreaming about

935
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,580
the job. He says, I now I gotta
quit. Said, why? He says, you

936
00:52:54,580 --> 00:52:57,160
when you start dreaming about a
job, you gotta quit. There's

937
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:57,880
some rule.

938
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,140
Adam Curry: This is a bad omen.
You have, you have four more

939
00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:03,900
years. Feel good about it. You
have four more years. You can't

940
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:08,700
quit now. There's no quitting in
podcasting. I can't do that.

941
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:09,360
There's

942
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,760
John C Dvorak: no quitting in
baseball. There's no crying in

943
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,900
baseball. I

944
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:15,360
Adam Curry: can confidently say
I don't think I've ever had a

945
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,500
dream that you were in.

946
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,780
John C Dvorak: Well, good, yeah,
yeah. But now that you get lost

947
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:22,640
in one of your dreams, but

948
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,180
Adam Curry: somehow you suck me
into yours. Yeah? Well,

949
00:53:26,180 --> 00:53:28,220
John C Dvorak: I was just, it
was just to humiliate you. I

950
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:31,580
think because you kept saying
that word, the W word, okay,

951
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:32,480
yes.

952
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,840
Adam Curry: And your older men
will have dreams. Speaking of

953
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,780
containers, we're going to
Chicago. One

954
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:41,320
Unknown: by one, people made
their way up the tracks to raid

955
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,980
this freight train parked at an
overpass off Cicero and Lake. In

956
00:53:44,980 --> 00:53:45,160
all

957
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,340
my years living on the west
side, I've never seen actual

958
00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:51,040
freight train parked over a
buyout where people actually

959
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,700
going into it

960
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:56,020
yet. CBS sky watch captured just
that Friday. Watch as folks grab

961
00:53:56,020 --> 00:53:59,740
boxes of TVs from the train cars
and easily load them on top of

962
00:53:59,740 --> 00:54:01,380
vehicles waiting, people just

963
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:04,080
kind of standing there, like in
disbelief, and all like, Oh,

964
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,600
wow. I can't believe this
happened. Princess

965
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Shaw watched all of this unfold
from her car. She snapped these

966
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,000
images and immediately called
911

967
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:15,720
gave 911 a call, I'm talking to
dispatch, and they're like,

968
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,200
Yeah, you're not the only call
that's been made. We've had

969
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,260
several calls waiting for a car
to get dispatched.

970
00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:25,160
Police sources say CPD had to
wait over an hour for Union

971
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,240
Pacific officers to respond and
secure the tracks, leaving ample

972
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:32,960
time for more and more people to
loot the train cars, and

973
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,060
they were just opening it up
like it was, like it was

974
00:54:35,060 --> 00:54:35,480
Christmas.

975
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:38,600
Take a look at this video. It
shows the thieves holstering a

976
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,460
TV from the tracks directly in
front of Chicago police cruiser,

977
00:54:42,580 --> 00:54:46,360
despite lights and sirens on
these guys kept on with their

978
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,480
illegal mission. It's not clear
if officers were in the vehicle

979
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,380
at the time, but radio dispatch
reveals cops were not arresting

980
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,640
when first on scene,

981
00:54:55,540 --> 00:54:59,740
we just drove by a big group of
people. They're still losing

982
00:54:59,740 --> 00:54:59,920
their.

983
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:07,320
Time, they've already shown that
they're not equipped or ready

984
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,460
for what they did today. So if
copycats come, they're not

985
00:55:11,460 --> 00:55:12,600
ready. If it took them an hour,

986
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,080
we captured more people a few
blocks away, scaling the walls

987
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,260
trying to get to other trailers,
even after officers arrived,

988
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:19,740
nothing

989
00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:23,480
but empty boxes. Nothing but,
but just scattered. Everything

990
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,020
everywhere.

991
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:28,100
The empty TV boxes litter Cicero
Avenue, leading many to wonder

992
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,500
how they were able to pull this
off so easily.

993
00:55:30,740 --> 00:55:34,880
How do they know where the TVs
were there's not like the

994
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,720
freight trains are labeled. So
it just leaves you to there's a

995
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,200
lot of questions here that are
left unanswered. This

996
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,320
Adam Curry: is a, an odd
throwback to the days of Jesse

997
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,120
James and the the great, wait

998
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,920
John C Dvorak: a minute. We
didn't, wasn't there a similar

999
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,100
story that we had on this show,
like, about 40 years ago,

1000
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,060
California.

1001
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,880
Adam Curry: It was happening. It
was during covid. No, I thought

1002
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,300
it was

1003
00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:57,880
John C Dvorak: in Chicago before
covid. And I thought it was

1004
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,720
Chicago, I

1005
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,800
Adam Curry: thought it was
California, but they were just

1006
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,400
looting,

1007
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,700
John C Dvorak: you know, some
park, Park vehicles, not

1008
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:10,560
vehicles, but trucks, trucks.
Oh, truck, cargo containers.

1009
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,220
Yeah, vaguely, very strange
story.

1010
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Adam Curry: Well, when you see
the video, it's even crazier. I

1011
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,860
mean, there must be 100 people,
and the cops are just sitting

1012
00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:26,480
there, like, whatever is, you
know, this is train robbery.

1013
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:33,080
Can't have this. Just strange.
Kamala's fault. Just blame it on

1014
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,160
Kamala. No Biden, that's what
everybody seems to do. Blame it

1015
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:42,100
on Kamala. All right, I'm
leaving a

1016
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,100
John C Dvorak: I got a couple. I
got some stuff I got, let's

1017
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:48,460
start. Let's start. I hate to do
is going to pull Jesse waters

1018
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:49,780
out of the bin,

1019
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,440
Adam Curry: out of the bit.
Okay, as long as you say he's

1020
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,300
coming out of the bin. I'm okay
with this coming

1021
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:57,460
John C Dvorak: out of the bin.
There's a couple of good

1022
00:56:57,460 --> 00:57:00,480
deconstruction. He did something
on the show, and he talked about

1023
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:06,600
camel is appearance on 60
minutes. And he has, I thought

1024
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,480
they brought some factoids out
here. This is the 60 minutes

1025
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:14,460
deconstruction that that was on
on Jesse waters. And he is

1026
00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:19,920
starts off by playing a clip of
of her being grilled about

1027
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,660
something, and then her comment,
and they did a follow up. His

1028
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:26,000
producers did a follow up that
nobody else has done.

1029
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:28,460
Unknown: And if you think she
was unprepared for the view,

1030
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:30,740
watch her on 60 minutes.

1031
00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:34,280
The first bill we proposed to
Congress was to fix our broken

1032
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:39,440
immigration system, knowing that
if you want to actually fix it,

1033
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:44,020
we need Congress to act. It was
not taken up. Arrivals

1034
00:57:44,260 --> 00:57:49,960
quadrupled from the last year of
President Trump. Was it a

1035
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:55,480
mistake to loosen the
immigration policies as much as

1036
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,020
you did?

1037
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:01,320
It's a long standing problem,
and solutions are at hand, and

1038
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,180
from day one, literally, we have
been offering solutions.

1039
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,520
What I was asking was, was it a
mistake to kind of allow that

1040
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,100
flood to happen in the first
place?

1041
00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:19,200
The policies that we have been
proposing are about fixing a

1042
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,160
problem, not promoting a
problem, okay, but the

1043
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,780
numbers did quadruple.

1044
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,500
She can't even answer the
question because she never tried

1045
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:31,580
to fix the border until it was
an election year. She claims she

1046
00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:34,940
sent an immigration bill to
Congress on day one, and it

1047
00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:38,420
wasn't taken up. Well, Prime
Time producers investigated,

1048
00:58:38,420 --> 00:58:41,920
because from all we remembered
out of the gate, Biden signed

1049
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,000
seven executive orders shredding
Trump's border policies. We

1050
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,360
didn't recall a Biden Harris
immigration bill on inauguration

1051
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,340
day because Biden Harris didn't
propose a bill fixing the

1052
00:58:54,340 --> 00:58:58,180
immigration system. We
discovered they submitted an

1053
00:58:58,180 --> 00:59:02,940
amnesty bill that would give
citizenship to all of the Eagles

1054
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:06,300
in the country. And part of that
bill, you can't call them

1055
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:10,020
illegals. You have to call them
undocumented newcomers. Nancy

1056
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:13,260
and Chuck controlled the House
and the Senate back then, no

1057
00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:16,260
wonder they didn't take it up.
It was political suicide.

1058
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:19,920
Adam Curry: Yeah, Waters is has
been doing a lot of interesting

1059
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,500
things in the past couple of
months, which is, you know, I

1060
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:28,940
kind of missed the humor he used
to be. Yeah, that's true. Yeah,

1061
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,100
I agree. He's trying to be, you
know, he's trying to do good

1062
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:32,300
work, yeah, stop. Well,

1063
00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:34,700
John C Dvorak: it's just, it's
not him. Anyway. Let's, you

1064
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:37,940
know, the soul behind the just
the producers and executive

1065
00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:40,300
producers, the guys are really
run the show, and he just

1066
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:43,240
happens to be the front man.
Yeah. Now he did. I get two more

1067
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,240
clips from him. Oh, and this is
when he had Kevin McCarthy on

1068
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,380
the show. And this really kind
of Kevin McCarthy. Is two clips

1069
00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:54,520
here, and one of them is he's
kind of two faced. Kevin

1070
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,240
McCarthy has been on, stumping
around, and I'm hurt by the fact

1071
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,280
that he the first time I heard.
Him do? He was on a podcast. I

1072
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,360
didn't record it, but after I
heard this, when he on the on

1073
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,720
waters, I kind of kicked myself,
because I have to tell you what

1074
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,840
he said on the on the podcast,
he went on about how he got

1075
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,080
kicked out of his speakership,
and he blamed the whole thing on

1076
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,100
Matt gates.

1077
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,420
Adam Curry: Go, oh, that's what
I heard that. And then he even

1078
01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:24,500
was talking about Matt Gates's
underage hookers or whatever.

1079
01:00:24,860 --> 01:00:25,820
Unknown: Yeah, yeah,

1080
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,760
Adam Curry: my podcast, it

1081
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,980
John C Dvorak: was a great
podcast. The guy's going on and

1082
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:33,260
on. In the end, he's just
getting it out of him. McCarthy

1083
01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:36,800
said, he said, he expresses the
following. He says, what

1084
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,780
happened was Matt Gaetz was in
trouble. Did some one of the

1085
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:43,660
committees was investigating him
because of all these underage

1086
01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:48,340
girls and gates comes up to him
and says, Hey, Kevin, you're the

1087
01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker of the House. Can you
help me out? And instead of

1088
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,960
McCarthy's shining him on,
instead of gonna say, Yeah,

1089
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,980
sure, oh yeah, he didn't do
that, he says, No, I can't help

1090
01:00:59,980 --> 01:01:03,900
you out. I can't do anything.
And so it pissed off gates. And

1091
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:10,740
so Gates got together with, with
with mace, the female Nancy

1092
01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:13,980
mace, I guess is her name, yes,
and they got they kicked it.

1093
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:16,980
Managed to kick him out because
of some rule, and he says it's

1094
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:20,840
all because of of this who's
just not helping him on this

1095
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,740
investigation. And then the
podcaster says to him, Well, you

1096
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,480
so you speak to him anymore, or
you use friends anymore. And

1097
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,180
because I know everyone gets
together after stuff like this

1098
01:01:32,180 --> 01:01:36,260
happens, he says, and then
McCarthy says, No, I'm not

1099
01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:38,060
talking to a pedophile.

1100
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:43,780
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, that's
slanderous, libelous,

1101
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,680
John C Dvorak: but not if it's
not necessarily this is true.

1102
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,440
You can say the truth. Yeah, so
here he is on Jesse, what

1103
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,640
waters. And the first clip is
him talking about camel never

1104
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,320
showing up to meetings when he
was in Congress. He says they'd

1105
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,020
have a they'd have a meeting.
Kamala show up when she felt

1106
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:06,420
like and I thought this was kind
of revealing. But then this the

1107
01:02:06,420 --> 01:02:11,640
second clip where he comes back
again with his complaining. This

1108
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,100
was where we're going to play
the first one though, yeah, play

1109
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:16,200
the first clip, and then I'll
did the second clip. This

1110
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Unknown: was where remarkable
you would see, respect what

1111
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,860
someone would hold the meeting
up for. No Joe Biden never

1112
01:02:21,860 --> 01:02:24,080
waited for he'd start the
meeting, even with this, she

1113
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,420
wasn't so then she'd show up,
and you'd wonder, does she know

1114
01:02:26,420 --> 01:02:29,240
what's going on? And only now
and then she would interject.

1115
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,180
But it was kind of like the
person interjecting and you were

1116
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,700
30 minutes late on that
question. We already handled

1117
01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:35,360
that section,

1118
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,960
so she was late to these
meetings. She wasn't prepared.

1119
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,620
Wasn't prepared. Was that her
fault because she said she had

1120
01:02:44,620 --> 01:02:48,340
staff problems. I mean, isn't it
your responsibility to prepare

1121
01:02:48,340 --> 01:02:49,780
yourself at a certain point,

1122
01:02:49,780 --> 01:02:52,060
you know what your meetings are,
you know where you're going to

1123
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:55,780
go the next day. She's got all
the staff in the world that she

1124
01:02:55,780 --> 01:02:58,900
needs, but no one will stay with
92% have left.

1125
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,500
Adam Curry: This backs up your
theory that she doesn't want to

1126
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:06,480
be president because she's lazy.
Yes, she doesn't, she doesn't

1127
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,340
like it, yeah,

1128
01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:11,640
John C Dvorak: yeah, she just as
soon not get the win. She's just

1129
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,140
benefit and then get out. So
here he goes back into this that

1130
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:19,140
she can't keep her staff. And
I'll listen carefully to what he

1131
01:03:19,140 --> 01:03:24,620
says as a kind of a kind of a
little aside that it's chicken

1132
01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:29,480
shit, but it's part of this
overall. I'm still irked about

1133
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,120
the fact that I got kicked out
of the speakership. She's got

1134
01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:32,660
all the

1135
01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:36,020
Unknown: staff in the world that
she needs, but no one will stay

1136
01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:39,200
with 92% have left. Everybody
knows whether you're Republican

1137
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,620
or Democrat. It happens on both
sides. Nancy mace, on the

1138
01:03:41,620 --> 01:03:43,840
Republican side, nobody will
work for her. And there's a

1139
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,500
reason why nobody will work for
for Kamala Harris, who's the

1140
01:03:47,500 --> 01:03:49,360
Vice President of the United
States.

1141
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,120
Adam Curry: Hmm, why will no

1142
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,060
John C Dvorak: Nancy mace? He
says, brings a ride out because

1143
01:03:55,060 --> 01:03:58,600
she's one of the ones that had
that got him ousted. He says,

1144
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,280
Nancy Mace is a good example. On
the Republican side, nobody will

1145
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:07,740
work for her. That's odd. Wow.
Well, maybe it's true. I don't

1146
01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:12,060
know Nancy mace. You know you've
seen her before. She seemed

1147
01:04:12,420 --> 01:04:16,020
reasonable. I don't know, but
there's definitely McCarthy is

1148
01:04:16,020 --> 01:04:19,260
out for blood, but He does it so
solid because he's got a smile

1149
01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:23,600
on his face and he's just
everything's matter of fact,

1150
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:23,840
yeah,

1151
01:04:24,860 --> 01:04:27,200
Adam Curry: what's he doing?
What is he doing? Is he still

1152
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:27,560
doing?

1153
01:04:27,740 --> 01:04:32,300
John C Dvorak: I think he's
trying to get a job in the Trump

1154
01:04:32,420 --> 01:04:33,200
administration

1155
01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:35,240
Unknown: for Trump,

1156
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:41,380
Adam Curry: yeah. What's this?
Uh, band C stuff. You know, my

1157
01:04:41,380 --> 01:04:45,820
ham, my ham, Funny Bone got
tickled when I saw this weather

1158
01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:47,920
and band C. And like play band

1159
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,800
John C Dvorak: C, weather and
info. PBS include

1160
01:04:50,860 --> 01:04:53,260
Unknown: Marjorie Taylor green,
the Republican from Georgia, who

1161
01:04:53,260 --> 01:04:56,920
claimed the federal government
can control the weather. You

1162
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,260
know, Charlie werthel of the
Atlantic has a great piece where

1163
01:04:59,260 --> 01:05:02,880
John C Dvorak: he's now stuff.
Clip. Now, this is about

1164
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,640
Adam Curry: Helene Milton.

1165
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:09,960
John C Dvorak: It's about the
weather, about Nancy. This is

1166
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,100
PBS you played in the last show.
I was going to send you a note

1167
01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:17,340
about these clips and say, can
you bring up some of those

1168
01:05:17,340 --> 01:05:20,780
clips, at least the key clip
that you played, because what

1169
01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:24,260
you did, you we talked about
this in the last show. Not this

1170
01:05:24,260 --> 01:05:26,900
is all new, but we talked about
in the last show, about

1171
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:30,140
controlling the weather. And you
played a series of clips you

1172
01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:32,660
might be able to dig one of the
two of one or two of the

1173
01:05:32,660 --> 01:05:36,500
important ones up where it's our
government who has made the

1174
01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:40,300
claim that they can control the
weather. And you had some clips

1175
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:43,000
from, I think, the Johnson
administration, or wherever they

1176
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,360
were from, yes, that just kind
of pounded this point home. But

1177
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,560
yet, we listen to this PBS
report, where this guy, this,

1178
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,280
Adam Curry: would you like to
hear the the Johnson clip? Yeah,

1179
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:54,700
let's play

1180
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:56,440
John C Dvorak: this is from
Lyndon Johnson, back in the

1181
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:56,800
Dayton,

1182
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,360
Unknown: the foundation for the
development of a weather

1183
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:08,040
satellite that will permit man
to determine the world's cloud

1184
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:13,800
layer and ultimately to control
the weather, and he who controls

1185
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,620
the weather will control the
world.

1186
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,840
Adam Curry: The other clip I had
was an overview of all the

1187
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,660
experiments the government has
done. And that was from France

1188
01:06:23,660 --> 01:06:26,300
24 it's a minute and a half. If
you want to hear it, you don't

1189
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:27,080
have to. That's fine.

1190
01:06:27,260 --> 01:06:30,080
John C Dvorak: We don't well,
let you maybe you can decide or

1191
01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:33,200
after we play these clips. So I
want to play these clips, these

1192
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:38,660
two clips about the weather, and
I forgot why I call them ban.

1193
01:06:38,660 --> 01:06:41,680
See, I think there's some other
I forgot that otherwise, I would

1194
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,780
have sent you this note, but
they have gone nuts about this,

1195
01:06:46,780 --> 01:06:51,880
and because, because of Marjorie
Taylor Greene, just offhandedly

1196
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,600
saying, hey, yeah, this is going
on which you proved in the last

1197
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,200
show. But oh no, no, this is
total denial. Now. This is bold

1198
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,040
nuts.

1199
01:07:00,340 --> 01:07:02,820
Unknown: Marjorie Taylor green,
the Republican from Georgia who

1200
01:07:02,820 --> 01:07:06,780
claimed the federal government
can control the weather, Charlie

1201
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:09,000
worth of the Atlantic has a
great piece where he says, This

1202
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,480
isn't just a misinformation
crisis, it's something darker.

1203
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,320
It's cultural assault on
institutions and individuals

1204
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,080
that operate in reality. How do
you see this moment that we're

1205
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,540
living in? Well,

1206
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,540
one, let's just call it what it
is. I'll call it what it is, not

1207
01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:25,100
just misinformation. And hold

1208
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:29,000
John C Dvorak: on a second, stop
B and C is Brooks and Capehart.

1209
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,420
Adam Curry: That's funny. I look
at your clip list and it says

1210
01:07:35,420 --> 01:07:40,840
band C. It says capital B, A, D,
and then capital C. And part

1211
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,480
John C Dvorak: of my codes,
well, your code is,

1212
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,360
Adam Curry: I'm like C band. I
wonder what's going on with C

1213
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,940
band. This could be some cool
like, ham clip. No,

1214
01:07:50,860 --> 01:07:54,640
John C Dvorak: no, it's Brooks.
I got punished Brooks. And yes,

1215
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,880
we're reading into things Brooks
and K hard. I have a bunch of

1216
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,360
their clips. I'll play these,
and then it gets a couple more.

1217
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,260
They go off the deep end. And
this is like, you know, oh, this

1218
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:07,860
is lies. But you know, like I
said, you already showed us that

1219
01:08:07,860 --> 01:08:11,460
this is all coming from, you
know, the Democrats

1220
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:14,640
Unknown: that we're living in.
Well, one, let's just call it

1221
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,760
what it is. I'll call it what it
is, not just misinformation and

1222
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,160
disinformation. It's lies, lies
that are putting people's lives

1223
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,660
at risk, that is tearing tearing
apart communities, people who

1224
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:30,740
are in in danger, who are at the
most stressful point in their

1225
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:34,880
lives, trying to outrun a
hurricane and being told that

1226
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,540
your government is not where you
pay taxes, your government is

1227
01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:41,620
not coming to help you, Your
government is giving money away

1228
01:08:41,620 --> 01:08:45,700
to other people, all lies. And
what makes this even more

1229
01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:50,440
reprehensible is that
Republicans, who know better,

1230
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:56,620
are not speaking out in force
and en masse to say this is not

1231
01:08:56,620 --> 01:09:01,380
right. This is wrong. President
Trump, please stop doing what

1232
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:04,860
you're doing. I give the
governors of Georgia and Florida

1233
01:09:04,860 --> 01:09:07,680
and Florida, the Republican
governors of Georgia and

1234
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,860
Florida, credit for saying, you
know, the Biden administration

1235
01:09:10,860 --> 01:09:14,760
has been very helpful, pushing
back against the misinformation.

1236
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,080
But I want Republicans to be
more direct in saying, Who's

1237
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,760
feeding the who's feeding the
disinformation and the lies and

1238
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,200
hold that person accountable.

1239
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,860
John C Dvorak: I'd like to hold
on a second the governors of

1240
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:31,640
Georgia and Florida as DeSantis
and the other guy, Kemp, I guess

1241
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,560
they they weren't pushing back
on disinformation. They said

1242
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,840
they were just cooperating with
Biden. Or when were they pushing

1243
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:45,220
back on disinformation? I give
them credit for pushing back on

1244
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:50,260
disinformation. What's he
talking about? I

1245
01:09:50,260 --> 01:09:52,660
Adam Curry: don't know, but I
need to add one other thing to

1246
01:09:52,660 --> 01:09:58,480
the weather modification that
they are capable of doing, and

1247
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:02,640
we've discussed this as far.
Back as episode, I think, 200

1248
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,780
even, maybe even earlier than
that. And this was the testimony

1249
01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:12,660
in 1997 by Secretary of Defense,
William Cohen. And it's and it's

1250
01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:16,920
on the on the Defense
Department's website, and I'm

1251
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,500
just going to so the question
was, let me ask you specifically

1252
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,780
about last week's scare here in
Washington, what we might have

1253
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:24,560
learned from how prepared we
prepared we ought to deal with

1254
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,200
B'nai Brith, I guess, some
terrorist threat. And then he

1255
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,440
says he got, there's a whole
bunch of stuffs, a bunch of

1256
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:33,560
precursor the same thing is true
about this. So this is the

1257
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,760
Secretary of Defense in 1997 the
same thing is true about just

1258
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,360
the false scare of threat using
some kinds of chemical weapon or

1259
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,420
a biological one. There are some
reports, for example, that some

1260
01:10:43,420 --> 01:10:45,760
countries have been trying to
construct something like an

1261
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,300
Ebola virus, and that would be a
very dangerous phenomenon, to

1262
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:52,660
say the least. Aven Toffler has
written about this in terms of

1263
01:10:52,660 --> 01:10:55,720
some scientists. Alvin Toffler
has written about this in terms

1264
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,480
of some scientists in their
laboratories trying to devise

1265
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:01,380
certain types of pathogens that
will be specific so they could

1266
01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:03,780
just eliminate certain ethnic
groups and races. Sound

1267
01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:07,080
familiar. And others are
designing, and others are

1268
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,920
designing sorts of engineering,
some sort of insects that can

1269
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,420
destroy specific crops. Others
are engaging even in an eco type

1270
01:11:15,420 --> 01:11:18,720
of terrorism, whereby they can
alter the climate, set off

1271
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,740
earthquakes, volcanoes remotely
through the use of

1272
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:28,280
electromagnetic waves. So come
on. I mean, it's very valid to

1273
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,940
say they have this capability.
They've certainly, they have

1274
01:11:31,940 --> 01:11:33,680
certainly talked about it. Yeah.
So

1275
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,160
John C Dvorak: Marjorie Taylor
green isn't nuts. Well, she just

1276
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,300
does her research.

1277
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,660
Adam Curry: She's a little out
there, little kooky boy. She

1278
01:11:40,660 --> 01:11:44,620
John C Dvorak: okay. She is nuts
or not. But besides the point,

1279
01:11:44,860 --> 01:11:47,980
you can't condemn her for this
comment, because this week, have

1280
01:11:47,980 --> 01:11:51,640
it backed up, and it's been
backed up by our own government.

1281
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,480
I mean, are you kidding me? This
K part guy is full of it and and

1282
01:11:55,480 --> 01:12:00,360
he could condemns everybody and
calls lies, lies, lies. Let's

1283
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,160
Play Part Two. Is

1284
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,700
Unknown: there any way back from
this when we have this ecosystem

1285
01:12:05,700 --> 01:12:07,920
that exists where people
actually believe that the

1286
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,260
federal government can control
the weather, something as

1287
01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:13,500
nonsensical is that seriously? I
mean an indictment of our time.

1288
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:16,260
I know each party has to police
their own side, and Republicans

1289
01:12:16,260 --> 01:12:19,680
have failed that that big time,
since 2015 the larger question

1290
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,880
for me is the rise of Donald
Trump shows it's an advantage to

1291
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,660
have no conscience.

1292
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,240
Adam Curry: Now, what? What do
you say at the end? No,

1293
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,900
John C Dvorak: it's an advantage
to have no conscience. What I'm

1294
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:33,620
so Donald Trump is just a what
he's suggesting is his

1295
01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:38,120
sociopath. Boob, yes, no, that's
no conscience. Is like a

1296
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,760
psychopath? Well, that's what he
suggested, basically what he

1297
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,180
said. I'm

1298
01:12:43,180 --> 01:12:46,780
Adam Curry: glad I brought that
transcript back, because I had

1299
01:12:46,780 --> 01:12:50,260
either long since forgotten that
they were talking about

1300
01:12:50,260 --> 01:12:54,580
pathogens that could target
specific DNA. Hello, I did it

1301
01:12:54,580 --> 01:12:58,780
again. I'm gonna keep doing it
now. Hello. I don't know what

1302
01:12:58,780 --> 01:13:01,620
John C Dvorak: you can do about
it. This is the news. This is

1303
01:13:01,620 --> 01:13:03,180
your earmark. That's right.

1304
01:13:03,180 --> 01:13:05,520
Adam Curry: It's not that Adam
curry mark. Adam curry. The

1305
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,640
Hello Guy is I'm gonna have
stickers, posters. Gonna have

1306
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,900
that mate. So while we're on the
topic of Donald Trump being a

1307
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:17,340
horrible man with no conscience,
Lawrence O'Donnell could not

1308
01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:21,380
resist and brought back an old
classic, where

1309
01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:27,080
Unknown: is the humanity? Where
is the humanity? Where is the

1310
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,880
humanity? Donald Trump seems to
have none. He

1311
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,800
Adam Curry: has no humanity, not
a shred of humanity.

1312
01:13:36,980 --> 01:13:41,260
Unknown: To have none, not a
shred of humanity. Donald Trump

1313
01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:44,740
said today that he believes that
immigrants to this country are

1314
01:13:44,740 --> 01:13:48,520
genetically inferior human
beings. Exactly what Adolf

1315
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:50,200
Hitler, well, he's

1316
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,780
Adam Curry: gonna, oh, Lawrence.
Lawrence brought receipts. Man,

1317
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:58,180
he didn't say that. No, no, wait
for it. It's coming. It's

1318
01:13:58,180 --> 01:14:01,800
coming. But I just have to stop,
and he's bringing back the

1319
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:07,680
Hitler meme, and he's peace.
Trump did not say this. Trump

1320
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,900
said something else. And, oh,
wait, did

1321
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:13,860
John C Dvorak: he just say? He
just said? He said, no liar,

1322
01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:14,580
yeah. He

1323
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:16,740
Unknown: believes that
immigrants to this country are

1324
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:20,100
genetically inferior human
beings. That is exactly what

1325
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,500
Adolf Hitler, immigrants,

1326
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:24,200
Adam Curry: by all immigrants,
immigrants everywhere, legal

1327
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,380
immigrants, illegal immigrants,
newcomers, immigrants, just

1328
01:14:27,380 --> 01:14:30,740
immigrants. Tony with the deli
on the corner, he's an

1329
01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:33,260
immigrant, genetically inferior.
Thought and

1330
01:14:33,260 --> 01:14:36,920
Unknown: said Donald Trump
doesn't seem to remember that he

1331
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,080
is a descendant of immigrants to
this country, including his

1332
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,440
mother, who was an immigrant. He
misses

1333
01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:48,460
Adam Curry: a big opportunity
here to say that his father also

1334
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,900
comes from immigrants, and he's
German, so maybe there's some

1335
01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:55,780
Adolf blood in him. He missed
that. Missed that. Laura, I'm

1336
01:14:55,780 --> 01:14:56,260
surprised.

1337
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,900
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know
what danger brought this, this

1338
01:14:59,140 --> 01:15:03,840
call back up. Up. I'm surprised
the drum thing hasn't showed up.

1339
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:04,680
Again coming. I'm

1340
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,080
Adam Curry: sure it's coming.
Let's continue. Two

1341
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,500
Unknown: of the mothers of
Donald Trump's children are

1342
01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:12,660
immigrants. Donald Trump, yeah,

1343
01:15:12,660 --> 01:15:16,080
Adam Curry: but they're hot.
Okay, so hot immigrants is not

1344
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,300
the same. Look at the genes.
Look at the genes. They look

1345
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:19,800
fine. Said today, quote, we've

1346
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,540
Unknown: got a lot of bad genes
in our country right now.

1347
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,900
Adam Curry: There it is. That's
what the whole deduction, the

1348
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:30,080
whole deconstruction, is from
that quote, we've got a lot of

1349
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,080
bad genes. Hey, he could have
meant Levi's.

1350
01:15:33,140 --> 01:15:37,220
John C Dvorak: That's what I was
thinking about. Levi's for him,

1351
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:43,540
Adam Curry: what was the what
was the bag we got? Hey, man,

1352
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:46,900
the inner city got some bag bad
genes going on. What was the

1353
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:50,920
what was the famous one with the
V on the back? Was it

1354
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,340
Vanderbilt? Vanderbilt? And
also, wasn't there Sergio

1355
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:56,260
Valenti or something? Was
there's

1356
01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:58,840
John C Dvorak: a bunch of these
jeans guys, a lot of jeans.

1357
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:02,640
Unknown: And again, that is
almost word for word, what Adolf

1358
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,480
Hitler was saying in the 1930s
before he started World War Two,

1359
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,700
and before he started

1360
01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:11,220
John C Dvorak: to speak English.
So how could it be word for

1361
01:16:11,220 --> 01:16:11,700
word,

1362
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,140
Unknown: and before he started
an organized extermination

1363
01:16:16,140 --> 01:16:16,980
prodash?

1364
01:16:16,980 --> 01:16:19,800
Adam Curry: That's it. Thank
you. Jordan,

1365
01:16:19,860 --> 01:16:23,540
Unknown: of the Jewish people,
in which Adolf Hitler's ambition

1366
01:16:23,540 --> 01:16:27,920
was to execute every living
Jewish person he could find

1367
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,240
anywhere in Europe. Because,
among other things, he believed

1368
01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:39,380
the bad genes theory that Donald
Trump believes and spews in his

1369
01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:41,920
views madness and
relentlessness.

1370
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,520
Adam Curry: Madness, poisonous
madness, relentless or No,

1371
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:50,740
Unknown: madness and relentless
stupidity at 78 years old, no,

1372
01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:53,740
we don't know how much longer
the world will have to endure

1373
01:16:53,740 --> 01:16:58,660
Donald Trump's Hitlerian rant.
Hitlerian, we should expect that

1374
01:16:58,660 --> 01:17:04,140
for every year Donald Trump has
left, he is going to get worse.

1375
01:17:04,140 --> 01:17:04,440
It's

1376
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:06,660
Adam Curry: only gonna get
worse. It's only downhill from

1377
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:09,720
here. Lawrence told you, so Wow,

1378
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,960
John C Dvorak: God, this guy is
disgusting. Oh, he's great. He's

1379
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:17,880
great. I'm gonna go back to
Brooks and Cape I want to play.

1380
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,320
This is the Brooks and Cape one,
and this has got a little gotcha

1381
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:26,780
in here, and I want this is
again, we have our guy, the

1382
01:17:26,780 --> 01:17:33,140
black ghost, yes, who's just
drops a little bomb in here.

1383
01:17:33,140 --> 01:17:36,800
Never explains it. I don't. And
this is very common on this PBS.

1384
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,780
PBS News Hour has, deter has,
has deteriorated to such an

1385
01:17:40,780 --> 01:17:46,000
extremist embarrassment to
journalism, former President

1386
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,820
Unknown: Barack Obama hits the
campaign trail for Kamala Harris

1387
01:17:48,820 --> 01:17:51,820
as the race for the White House
enters its final weeks and

1388
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:55,060
Donald Trump unleashes a torrent
of false statements and

1389
01:17:55,060 --> 01:17:58,120
distortions about the federal
response to hurricanes Milton

1390
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,100
Colleen. Let's turn now to the
analysis of Brooks and Capehart.

1391
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:05,040
That's New York Times columnist
David Brooks and Jonathan

1392
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,800
Capehart, associate editor for
The Washington Post. This

1393
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,200
Adam Curry: is where in my
house, this is where we switch

1394
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,360
the channel. Wait, this is we
switch the channel. I'm just

1395
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,560
saying, Wait, where's

1396
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,820
John C Dvorak: the torrent of
falsehoods and falls? What is

1397
01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:20,400
specifically, is he talking
about? He never says.

1398
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,620
Adam Curry: It's a torrent. It's
a tidal wave. It's a tsunami of

1399
01:18:24,620 --> 01:18:25,280
lies. And

1400
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,500
Unknown: Jonathan Capehart,
associate editor for The

1401
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:30,560
Washington Post, great to see
you both. So the polls show a

1402
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,160
race that is as tight as ever,
25 days out from election day,

1403
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,920
and Democrats are doing what
Democrats do best. They are

1404
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,840
worrying. They are fretting that
Kamala Harris's early momentum

1405
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,080
might have stalled. I want to
start with your assessments of

1406
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,380
the race. But David, you first,
has there been a vibe shift?

1407
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,340
Adam Curry: Oh, a vibe shift?
Oh, oh,

1408
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,800
John C Dvorak: well, I'm still
waiting for the torrent of lies.

1409
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:54,580
What were they?

1410
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,160
Adam Curry: I'm already past it.
I'm past it already. You know,

1411
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,760
it's bad. Well,

1412
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,920
John C Dvorak: you get passed up
faster than I do. Bad

1413
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,880
Adam Curry: genes. Well, you're,
you're a PBS guy from the from

1414
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,540
old school. You know, you used
to love PBS. You probably

1415
01:19:06,780 --> 01:19:10,500
depended on them and thought
they were, hey, believe me,

1416
01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:14,640
uncle Don and Aunt Meg, every
night they would watch the PBS

1417
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,020
NewsHour. They did not watch
NBC, ABC, CBS, the spooks of

1418
01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:24,560
this world. They watch PBS
NewsHour. That's a that's a

1419
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,000
little inside info into the
world of spookidge. Yeah. Well,

1420
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:29,180
that

1421
01:19:29,180 --> 01:19:30,260
John C Dvorak: doesn't surprise
me. They

1422
01:19:30,260 --> 01:19:32,300
Adam Curry: used to all read
Newsweek. I don't think they

1423
01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:33,860
read Newsweek anymore. No
Newsweek

1424
01:19:33,860 --> 01:19:37,760
John C Dvorak: is done. It's not
one by Salesforce. Guy from

1425
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,720
Adam Curry: Christmas I get a
Newsweek subscription from Don

1426
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,140
and Meg,

1427
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,040
John C Dvorak: there's coded
messages in there, obviously,

1428
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:45,220
yeah,

1429
01:19:45,220 --> 01:19:48,700
Adam Curry: and it did not work,
because I was more interested in

1430
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:53,680
boys life. I don't know why not
what? What I was boys life, the

1431
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:58,000
magazine, boy's life. You never
you know doing all about boy's

1432
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,280
life, isn't that a boy scout?
Drill, yeah, I was way into Boy

1433
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,120
Scouts and camping. And were you
in a boy scouts? I was a sea

1434
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,640
scout in Holland, actually. Oh,
a

1435
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,040
John C Dvorak: sea scout. Oh,
they used to have that in the

1436
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,740
United States. I don't remember
what happened to the sea scouts.

1437
01:20:13,740 --> 01:20:13,920
Yeah,

1438
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,700
Adam Curry: you could, you did
not lots of knots. I could learn

1439
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:20,840
how to sail and learn how to
sail. I can sail. I can, I can

1440
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,180
do lots of knots. Yes,

1441
01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:25,940
John C Dvorak: knots. You can do
a lot of knots, earning more and

1442
01:20:25,940 --> 01:20:27,620
more today. What I can

1443
01:20:27,620 --> 01:20:29,660
Adam Curry: do a slip knot in
one second.

1444
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:37,640
John C Dvorak: There's, that's
special technique, great. Okay,

1445
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,200
so where were we on these three

1446
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,800
Adam Curry: clips? We're number
two. Okay, go,

1447
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,140
Unknown: has there been a vibe
shift? Yeah.

1448
01:20:44,260 --> 01:20:48,520
I mean, her momentum has
stalled. She was going going up,

1449
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,640
then she seemed to plateau. And
I would say, if you look at the

1450
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,640
polling movement in the last
week, Trump is doing slightly

1451
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,580
better, and I should emphasize
slightly, and so he's doing a

1452
01:20:57,580 --> 01:21:00,900
lot better in the Sun Belt,
swing states, in the industrial

1453
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,780
Midwest, he's doing slightly
better, but again, very slight.

1454
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:09,900
And so you'd have to think, you
know, when I look at the the

1455
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:12,420
results right now, where we are.
And of course, it could all

1456
01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:15,540
change. I do think the decision
not to pick Josh up here on

1457
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:18,660
Pennsylvania, we could look back
on that as a major mistake.

1458
01:21:18,660 --> 01:21:21,440
Second, I think she made a
mistake this week by not

1459
01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:23,780
breaking with Joe Biden on a
bunch of major issues. She was

1460
01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:26,540
asked twice on two different
shows, is anything really

1461
01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:29,060
different? And she basically
said no, and this is a country

1462
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:31,640
where, what, 28% think the
country's on the wrong track.

1463
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,000
Joe Biden has like, a 41%
approval. It seems to me,

1464
01:21:35,060 --> 01:21:38,000
elementary, active politics. I
my own person. This is how I

1465
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,560
would change. Yeah,

1466
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,620
Adam Curry: I think we both
said, that's where she lost the

1467
01:21:41,620 --> 01:21:44,260
election, right there on that on
the view, by going, Well,

1468
01:21:44,260 --> 01:21:46,060
John C Dvorak: you said it
first, and I will give you

1469
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:48,880
credit, you said it immediately
that this is the election. It's

1470
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,600
right there on the

1471
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,640
Adam Curry: view. You see what I
do. I bring you into it, and I

1472
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,300
say, we know

1473
01:21:52,300 --> 01:21:55,180
John C Dvorak: you do. That was
very I thought that was nice of

1474
01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:59,080
you. But I will write back
Indian, but I'll push the other

1475
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,120
way and say, You, nailed it
right away. Indian giver, I give

1476
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,740
it. I mean, I have, uh, I
thought about it, but I didn't

1477
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:12,360
make it, uh, determining at the
level that you did. So as you

1478
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,700
you just have to take credit for
that. Yeah, I Okay, I'll take

1479
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:16,860
it. And I think you're right. I
think you're dead, right. I

1480
01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:19,680
think that's the stupidest thing
she could send. She was given a

1481
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,240
second opportunity. Did the same
thing. She just couldn't do it.

1482
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:24,200
She couldn't

1483
01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:27,320
Adam Curry: what was the second
opportunity? Oh,

1484
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:34,580
John C Dvorak: she was asked the
same question by by Colbert, and

1485
01:22:34,580 --> 01:22:36,680
Adam Curry: she did it, but she
didn't have this goofy look on

1486
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,900
her face. Did she? Yeah,

1487
01:22:38,900 --> 01:22:41,080
John C Dvorak: she that's the
look she has. That's her look.

1488
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:46,240
She's got a goofy look. Yeah,
no, she dropped the ball twice,

1489
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:51,160
just what Brook said. Now, k
part, of course, of these clips,

1490
01:22:51,220 --> 01:22:55,120
thank God, Joe. You know, he's a
he. Yes, he is the, oh, you

1491
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,640
know, can almost the greatest
thing since sliced bread. And,

1492
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,320
you know, black males should all
vote for and everything you said

1493
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,340
is wrong, because if it's
disparaging about Kamala, she's

1494
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:08,940
the greatest. And so he defends
her. Jonathan, how

1495
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:13,200
Unknown: do you see it? The race
today is the race as it was when

1496
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,720
she became the top of the
ticket, as it was the night of

1497
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,200
the dreadful debate on June 27
as it was in the months before

1498
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,300
that. It's close, it's always
going to be close. It was always

1499
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:25,940
going to be close. And the fact
that Democrats are panicking,

1500
01:23:26,420 --> 01:23:30,860
I'm not shocked by it. I'm
annoyed by it, because, you

1501
01:23:30,860 --> 01:23:35,120
know, you could do all the
panicking you want, but it's

1502
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,840
going to come true if folks
don't get out and vote. And I

1503
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,560
don't know if I agree with
there's been a vibe shift, and

1504
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,220
you know the she's played time
and all of this other stuff, I

1505
01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:50,560
think that what's happening is
reality is setting in. It's

1506
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,440
going to be close in this idea
that she made a mistake in not

1507
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,860
picking Governor Shapiro. I just
have to disagree with that

1508
01:23:56,980 --> 01:24:00,840
strenuously, strenuously, she
picked Governor Walz. I think

1509
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,680
Governor Walz is is a terrific
candidate, and I think what she

1510
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,520
needs to be doing in this in
this campaign, is continuing to

1511
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,420
go out there and do what she's
done all week this week, going

1512
01:24:12,420 --> 01:24:17,220
out and talking to people on the
various shows and podcasts and

1513
01:24:17,220 --> 01:24:21,380
everything, and telling showing
them who she is and what she's

1514
01:24:21,380 --> 01:24:23,540
for. And what I found
interesting is, of all the

1515
01:24:23,540 --> 01:24:26,180
interviews, Howard Stern
interview was terrific. But I

1516
01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:29,240
also thought her interview with
Stephen Colbert was was very

1517
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,920
good. And I was thinking of your
your column, David, in that in

1518
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:39,140
watching her in this interview
with a comedian, you, I felt

1519
01:24:39,140 --> 01:24:45,160
like you actually got to see the
real Kamala Harris, personality

1520
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:49,660
wise, but also what she stands
for, what she believes in, in a

1521
01:24:49,660 --> 01:24:53,500
manner that is more comfortable
than when she's sitting before

1522
01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:55,540
60 minutes. Yeah,

1523
01:24:55,540 --> 01:24:59,680
Adam Curry: this so now they're
in a circular jerk, a THON,

1524
01:24:59,740 --> 01:25:04,740
oops. Worry about that, because
if you ask anybody, what do you

1525
01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:09,060
think of the Kamala interview?
Do they say, Oh, you mean 60

1526
01:25:09,060 --> 01:25:12,780
minutes? No. Do they say, Oh,
you mean on Colbert show, who

1527
01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:17,520
has, I think, 100 like 1.2
million viewers? No. Do you know

1528
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:22,760
what they all say, Oh, you mean
on caller daddy. These guys have

1529
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:27,080
no idea how over they are,
caller they are, yeah, that's

1530
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,360
what that's all people are
talking about, is the call,

1531
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,660
caller dad, and they probably
didn't view it. They just think,

1532
01:25:32,660 --> 01:25:35,900
oh, call her daddy. Oh, she must
be talking about her specialty.

1533
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,260
John C Dvorak: Well, you gotta
bring that up. I do have one

1534
01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:45,400
screwball clip. This is a from
the Gutfeld show. And this is

1535
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,060
the

1536
01:25:46,180 --> 01:25:50,020
Adam Curry: John's evening.
While viewing, we go from PBS

1537
01:25:50,020 --> 01:25:55,900
news hour to the there's no NTD,
I don't want to happen. And then

1538
01:25:55,900 --> 01:25:58,600
we go to Gutfeld, yes. And then
this

1539
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,980
John C Dvorak: is Gutfeld
telling a joke that I thought

1540
01:26:01,980 --> 01:26:06,240
was funny. And this is about the
porn for Harris. People do the

1541
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,180
porn. You know, the porns now
the porn people are for Harris

1542
01:26:09,180 --> 01:26:13,740
and gutfield mocks it in a, I
thought, a amusing way, the porn

1543
01:26:13,740 --> 01:26:18,240
Unknown: industry has launched a
$100,000 ad campaign in support

1544
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:22,640
of Kamala Harris. Makes sense.
They're both known for sucking,

1545
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:29,780
Adam Curry: yeah, so I saw, I
saw that. I'm sorry. No, it's

1546
01:26:29,780 --> 01:26:34,040
okay. I saw the I saw the
campaign, and it's very tired,

1547
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:39,320
because it's all about Project
2025 like, if Donald Trump is

1548
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,880
elected, Project 2025 will
outlaw porn and

1549
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,120
John C Dvorak: Oh, is that? Oh,
yeah. I was unaware of the of

1550
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:47,740
the actual campaign. I didn't

1551
01:26:47,740 --> 01:26:51,220
Adam Curry: even clip it. It was
so dumb, like, and I saw it last

1552
01:26:51,220 --> 01:26:52,420
week. Okay,

1553
01:26:54,700 --> 01:26:58,840
John C Dvorak: that's what. This
is a protection mode ad. Because

1554
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,300
they think this project 2025,
thing. And somebody pointed out

1555
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:05,820
that they that the Heritage
Foundation has been doing this

1556
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:10,920
stuff since the 80s, or not 90s.
What they do? Yeah, and then all

1557
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,040
of a sudden it's been turned
into a campaign point of

1558
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:15,780
information. Claiborne.

1559
01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:22,280
Adam Curry: Claiborne, on CNN,
Clyburn. Clyburn, yeah, he's

1560
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,340
the, he's the kingmaker. He's
the kingmaker. You know, you get

1561
01:27:25,340 --> 01:27:31,460
clyborne. He, he made Joe the,
the candidate. I mean, has a lot

1562
01:27:31,460 --> 01:27:37,940
of power. He comes on whatever.
Dana, what's her face? Horse

1563
01:27:37,940 --> 01:27:45,520
face on CNN. Dana Bash, I guess
she was sorry. Dana Donna Donna

1564
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,560
Donna, and, and

1565
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:52,000
John C Dvorak: Don Yeah, Donna
Donna, Dana Donna Donna Donna

1566
01:27:52,060 --> 01:27:53,140
Donna Donna.

1567
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:56,080
Adam Curry: And she says, Well,
are you worried? He says, I am

1568
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:01,800
worried. And, but people need to
know that if you elect Donald

1569
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:07,680
Trump, it's going to be Jim Crow
2.0 with Project 2025 like, holy

1570
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,040
crap. That's all they have.
That's all they have nothing.

1571
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,840
They have nothing left nothing.
They have nothing to say. And of

1572
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,040
course, it's not a close race,
because America doesn't elect

1573
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,120
presidents like Kamala Harris,
it just not gonna happen, not

1574
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,300
because she's a woman, not
because she's black, it's just,

1575
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:29,480
she's just doesn't have the
profile. Doesn't have the

1576
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,780
profile. Trump is a little old
to have the profile, but you

1577
01:28:32,780 --> 01:28:34,940
know, you get shot in the air.
You do the fight, fight, fight.

1578
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,720
That's the profile of America.
And then you want to talk some

1579
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,620
gaffes. Let's just run through a
quick couple of gap. Camela

1580
01:28:41,620 --> 01:28:43,720
gaffs, this is the first one.

1581
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,100
Unknown: And I also want to
thank your father, Vice

1582
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:55,720
President Dick Cheney, for his
support, okay, and what he has

1583
01:28:55,720 --> 01:29:00,180
done to serve our country. Every
endorsement matters, and this

1584
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:03,960
endorsement matters a great deal
Liz, and it carries the special,

1585
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:04,980
special significance

1586
01:29:04,980 --> 01:29:07,860
Adam Curry: what he has done for
our country, responsible for the

1587
01:29:07,860 --> 01:29:13,380
death of American servicemen and
women in a needless war for oil

1588
01:29:13,380 --> 01:29:19,440
and nonsense. That's who you're
thanking, Madam, Madam Vice

1589
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:22,640
President. And then this was
kind of, this was kind of funny.

1590
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,240
This was, oh, wait, no, wait,
no, this. This is before I get

1591
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:30,320
to the funny. This is the latest
this. Okay, we've got him now.

1592
01:29:30,620 --> 01:29:34,880
Now we've got him. I've got a
plan. We had a meeting. All

1593
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,400
right. Time to do this. Madam,
Vice President,

1594
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,520
Unknown: Vice President Kamala
Harris is in excellent health.

1595
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,420
That's according to a letter by
her White House doctor,

1596
01:29:43,660 --> 01:29:46,900
she possesses the physical and
mental resiliency required to

1597
01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:49,600
successfully execute the duties
of the presidency,

1598
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,300
Adam Curry: which, looking at
Joe Biden, isn't much

1599
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,960
Unknown: despite no law
compelling candidates to do so.

1600
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,440
Harris took aim at former
President Donald Trump for not

1601
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:01,500
providing. His own health
history. So today,

1602
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,860
I released my medical records,
as I believe every candidate for

1603
01:30:07,860 --> 01:30:11,580
President of the United States
except Donald Trump in this

1604
01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:15,600
election cycle, and it's just a
further example of his lack of

1605
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,500
transparency.

1606
01:30:17,580 --> 01:30:20,780
There is very little known about
Trump's health This includes,

1607
01:30:20,780 --> 01:30:24,560
after an attempted assassination
in July in which a bullet grazed

1608
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,760
his ear, his team has insisted
the 78 year old is fit for the

1609
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,180
job without providing further
medical information.

1610
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,820
Adam Curry: You get the idea?
So, oh, I know we're gonna do

1611
01:30:35,300 --> 01:30:39,140
you can hear all. You can just
see the memos. It's time to

1612
01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:43,420
attack Trump on his on his age.
He's demented. He's demented.

1613
01:30:43,420 --> 01:30:47,080
And Trump demented part kills.
Trump falls for it. He's like,

1614
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,440
no, no. It's called the weave.
They people think I'm that I

1615
01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:56,080
served that too. Is I'm genius
at the weave. I'm great at the

1616
01:30:56,140 --> 01:31:03,060
wheel. We did the What's it? The
flagrant podcast with that

1617
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:07,080
comedian with the mustache,
forget his name, which is, it's

1618
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,620
not a podcast I watch, but he
was really personable, really

1619
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:15,960
good, very funny, you know,
endearing at times. He talked

1620
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:22,400
about his kids and about being a
father, you know? And then when

1621
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,220
he, of course, you don't see
that, because it's on a podcast.

1622
01:31:25,220 --> 01:31:31,100
And then all we get is, I got
the weave, and we and then the

1623
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:32,600
last one for, you

1624
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,700
John C Dvorak: know that, you
know that podcast he was on with

1625
01:31:34,700 --> 01:31:37,940
those four guys for comics.
That's the one, yeah, did with

1626
01:31:37,940 --> 01:31:40,240
the weave. That's where he came
with the weave. Oh, he

1627
01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:42,940
Adam Curry: mentioned the weave
before, but he went into detail

1628
01:31:42,940 --> 01:31:44,620
on the weave. He

1629
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,000
John C Dvorak: that was, I don't
have a clip of it, but I was

1630
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,720
reading about how one of the
news organizations said that,

1631
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,640
oh, Trump tried to explain how
he he's scatterbrained, and they

1632
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,120
all laughed at him. No,

1633
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:00,420
Adam Curry: no, no,

1634
01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:03,060
John C Dvorak: I know it's what
I mean. Is just like, what? How

1635
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:06,720
are you interpreting this, any
of this stuff, these people are

1636
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:08,940
terrible. They're terrible.

1637
01:32:08,940 --> 01:32:11,280
Adam Curry: I have a clip,
actually from that, and he said

1638
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,920
something which I was I found
questionable. She

1639
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,100
Unknown: is an add on that I'm
against IVF. She knows it's

1640
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:20,720
untrue. She is an add on that
bloodbath. Bloodbath means,

1641
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,320
like, blood. That's not what I
was talking about the automobile

1642
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,660
industry. It's going to be a
bloodbath in the automobile

1643
01:32:26,660 --> 01:32:29,360
we're going to lose all our
business. That's what's

1644
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:33,620
referring to when they do things
and they do a lot, but I always

1645
01:32:33,620 --> 01:32:36,080
refer them back to the
simplicity of McDonald's. She

1646
01:32:36,140 --> 01:32:39,740
lied about McDonald's. She lied
about many things, and she's a

1647
01:32:39,740 --> 01:32:44,380
liar. There should be some kind
of a rule when they know it's a

1648
01:32:44,380 --> 01:32:46,420
lie, you can't do a commercial
on it.

1649
01:32:47,980 --> 01:32:53,320
Adam Curry: Okay? It sounds like
censorship to me. This would be

1650
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,780
some kind of a rule about it.
Now we're gonna have to vet.

1651
01:32:55,780 --> 01:32:57,160
Yeah, you're right. I

1652
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:58,480
John C Dvorak: think that was a
blunder. And

1653
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:00,780
Adam Curry: I think that that,
to me, was blunderish. Yes, for

1654
01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:02,820
sure, and then because

1655
01:33:02,820 --> 01:33:05,940
John C Dvorak: it's just falling
in line with the other side. So

1656
01:33:05,940 --> 01:33:09,720
Adam Curry: then Madam Vice
President is on a zoom call with

1657
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,260
FEMA, and she's sitting at her
desk. Oh yeah, this

1658
01:33:13,260 --> 01:33:16,020
John C Dvorak: is a good one.
I'm surprised you clipped it

1659
01:33:16,020 --> 01:33:16,380
because

1660
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:20,240
Adam Curry: I only clipped it
because Sky News, Australia, you

1661
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:20,960
know the

1662
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,780
John C Dvorak: woman and her
buddies, everybody? Yeah, very

1663
01:33:26,780 --> 01:33:28,220
funny stuff. Sky News,
Australia,

1664
01:33:28,220 --> 01:33:30,320
Adam Curry: you got enough
problems of your own, but okay,

1665
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,980
we'll take this one now I don't
think, I don't think they're

1666
01:33:33,980 --> 01:33:37,460
right, and I think the way it
played on social media was

1667
01:33:37,460 --> 01:33:39,620
incorrect, but it was funny.
Kamala

1668
01:33:39,620 --> 01:33:42,940
Unknown: Harris made a bizarre
gaff during an FEMA hurricane

1669
01:33:42,940 --> 01:33:46,420
Milton emergency update
broadcast which sent social

1670
01:33:46,420 --> 01:33:50,380
media into a spin, the Vice
President received a briefing

1671
01:33:50,380 --> 01:33:53,800
from disaster relief authorities
on preparations and weather

1672
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,460
forecasts for the hurricane.
During the video briefing,

1673
01:33:57,460 --> 01:34:00,660
Kamala Harris could be seen
covering her mouth, appearing to

1674
01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:03,900
relay a message to someone else
through a microphone and E

1675
01:34:03,900 --> 01:34:08,940
piece, the VP mumbled, it's a
live broadcast. Behind her hands

1676
01:34:09,180 --> 01:34:12,660
flood. We really got to watch
those those areas in those

1677
01:34:12,660 --> 01:34:15,900
communities, so it takes quite a
while for that water to drain.

1678
01:34:17,460 --> 01:34:18,840
Thank you very much. She

1679
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,740
then immediately took her hands
away from her mouth and asked a

1680
01:34:21,740 --> 01:34:22,400
question.

1681
01:34:23,540 --> 01:34:27,440
Hey, Ken, I have a question for
you. You mentioned words matter,

1682
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:32,120
and I know there's a lot of
media following this briefing.

1683
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,380
Commentators immediately blasted
the VP, accusing her of being

1684
01:34:36,380 --> 01:34:40,840
fed questions by AIDS through an
earpiece. Commentator Charlie

1685
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,040
Kirk said, busted. Carmela is
heard telling an aide who is

1686
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:49,060
feeding her questions that it's
a live broadcast. She then asks

1687
01:34:49,060 --> 01:34:53,020
the question she was presumably
given. When you realize what a

1688
01:34:53,020 --> 01:34:56,200
fraud this woman is, you can't
unsee it. So,

1689
01:34:57,340 --> 01:35:02,460
Adam Curry: so, yes, uh. Uh, if
you really look at the video,

1690
01:35:02,460 --> 01:35:07,440
which I did in my fork, on my 4k
screen, she's looking off to the

1691
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:10,980
side of the camera, and
someone's motioning to her, or

1692
01:35:10,980 --> 01:35:15,060
maybe even holding up a sign for
all I know, I'm not, I'm not

1693
01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:19,560
into the Oh, she had a hidden
earpiece. I just, I mean, get

1694
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,780
over yourselves. Twitter. Get
over yourselves on the hidden

1695
01:35:23,780 --> 01:35:28,640
earpiece thing? No, she's she's
just that dumb and how they

1696
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:33,740
John C Dvorak: slide notes to
you anyway. I mean, you guys, of

1697
01:35:33,740 --> 01:35:36,320
course, they do it when you can
actually see them. Yes,

1698
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,380
Adam Curry: but this was the
week where she also was doing a

1699
01:35:39,380 --> 01:35:43,000
town hall with a teleprompter.
And, you know, last week the

1700
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,120
teleprompter went out and she
had a brain freeze. I mean, oh,

1701
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,940
John C Dvorak: that was, that's
the clip. That's, that's kind of

1702
01:35:49,480 --> 01:35:50,200
a amusing.

1703
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,940
Adam Curry: I don't have it. I
don't have Yeah, well,

1704
01:35:51,940 --> 01:35:55,600
John C Dvorak: I can just, do
you have to do clip? No, I don't

1705
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,000
have it. I don't have it either,
but I can just say what it was.

1706
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,160
She says, We have 32 days until
the election, and then the

1707
01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:08,040
teleprompter goes out. And then
she looks around two days, 32 we

1708
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:12,720
got 32 days. Two or three times.
It's like an idiot. We couldn't

1709
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:18,120
even, I mean, she can't even
break the third, fourth wall,

1710
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,780
whatever you call it, and say,
Hey, teleprompter went out.

1711
01:36:20,780 --> 01:36:24,320
Yeah, so I don't really have
anything else to say right now,

1712
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:25,820
Adam Curry: but it is amazing. I

1713
01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:27,500
John C Dvorak: mean, you do a
lot of things when a

1714
01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:31,640
teleprompter goes out. I
remember the when I was on Tech

1715
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,160
TV. Here we go. Okay,

1716
01:36:35,300 --> 01:36:38,660
Adam Curry: when you do this, I
grab my coffee, I spin the

1717
01:36:38,660 --> 01:36:40,660
stool, I cross my legs

1718
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,720
John C Dvorak: that long? No,
no, no, no, no.

1719
01:36:44,740 --> 01:36:48,040
Adam Curry: Hey, people come for
the media deconstruction. It is

1720
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,820
a fact they stay for John's
story time. Yes, many

1721
01:36:51,820 --> 01:36:54,340
John C Dvorak: stories. So I'm
on Tech TV, and this is the

1722
01:36:54,340 --> 01:36:57,820
first time he said, because I
was a prompter jockey on that

1723
01:36:57,820 --> 01:37:00,900
show, because I had, I had
different writers that wrote my

1724
01:37:00,900 --> 01:37:04,440
copy. But once Jennifer Lavin,
my producer, started writing my

1725
01:37:04,440 --> 01:37:07,860
copy, she wrote in my voice, and
it was perfect. It was better

1726
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:10,560
than anything I could ad lib.
That's what you that's what

1727
01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:12,600
Adam Curry: you want. You want
someone. You want someone who

1728
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,180
can write for your prompter and
someone who can roll your

1729
01:37:15,180 --> 01:37:15,960
prompter. Yes, you

1730
01:37:16,620 --> 01:37:18,120
John C Dvorak: want a good
person. This is usually a

1731
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,520
different person, yeah, but you
want somebody that rolls the

1732
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,860
prompter and they pay attention
to what you're saying and then

1733
01:37:22,860 --> 01:37:24,980
they saying, and then they roll
the prompter, but, but when you

1734
01:37:24,980 --> 01:37:27,620
get someone who can write your
copy, I mean, I once what you

1735
01:37:27,620 --> 01:37:30,260
hear about people say, Well, I
write my own copy. I write my

1736
01:37:30,260 --> 01:37:34,520
own prompter copy. I'm always
thinking, why are you an idiot

1737
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,960
to do that's dumb. That is dumb
because it's like a skill. It's

1738
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,340
a real skill to write prompter
copy. It is, it is. And so you

1739
01:37:42,340 --> 01:37:44,920
find someone who can do it. So
they write this prompter copy,

1740
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:50,020
and I got and it on when you're
doing a live read, they give you

1741
01:37:50,020 --> 01:37:54,040
a the sheets with the prompter
copy on it, the blue sheets,

1742
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,640
usually, and then the prompter
copy, and you read from the

1743
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:01,800
prompter and you you're supposed
to do something I've now, I got

1744
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,620
pretty good at reading the
prompter, but I never was good

1745
01:38:04,620 --> 01:38:08,880
at doing the switchover, because
I've never had to do it. And so,

1746
01:38:09,660 --> 01:38:13,980
so the prompter and one once in
four years, four years, daily,

1747
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:19,200
boom, prompter goes out, yeah.
And I'm, it's live, and I'm

1748
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,180
going, oh, so I look down and
I'm not doing what you see these

1749
01:38:23,180 --> 01:38:25,700
guys do, which is what you're
supposed to do, is as you read

1750
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:29,480
from the prompt you're flipping
pages, yes, so you're at the

1751
01:38:29,480 --> 01:38:32,060
point where you can just now you
go from the prompter and you

1752
01:38:32,060 --> 01:38:34,820
start reading the copy that is
written out. That was the

1753
01:38:34,820 --> 01:38:39,860
prompter copy. I didn't do that.
I I didn't have to. I wasn't on

1754
01:38:39,860 --> 01:38:44,380
the right page. It was a
complete choke. It was like, oh

1755
01:38:44,380 --> 01:38:48,040
my. And it was just, I'm blah
blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm

1756
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,280
like, drop. I'm just blowing it.
Let it. It was terrible. It was

1757
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:55,000
the worst experience in my all
the TV I ever done, because I

1758
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,960
was not prepared for it, because
it never happened to me before.

1759
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,440
And it turns out a lot of times,
I think you get until it

1760
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:04,980
happens, you think you know what
you're doing, until something

1761
01:39:04,980 --> 01:39:07,920
goes astray. And this is what
happened with camelin, when her

1762
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,980
prompter went out, she didn't
know what to do. And I had felt

1763
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,640
kind of sorry for it, because it
happened to me after that

1764
01:39:16,020 --> 01:39:19,080
prompter, like, a year later,
went out again. But I had,

1765
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,720
because of that mishap, I had no
problem going to the sheets, but

1766
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,680
it was like it was the worst
experience. It's just terrible,

1767
01:39:27,860 --> 01:39:31,880
and You bumbling around, and you
know, it was even when the

1768
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:36,080
lights went out one time, it was
easier to deal with. I'm so old,

1769
01:39:36,860 --> 01:39:38,660
Adam Curry: and I've told the
story before, but I'll do it

1770
01:39:38,660 --> 01:39:44,560
again at MTV. The way it worked
is, now I didn't have a lot of

1771
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,220
prompt or copy, but for shows
like the top 20 video countdown,

1772
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:53,980
and we did the week in rock, it
was scripted. And the way it

1773
01:39:53,980 --> 01:39:57,280
worked back in the day, this is
when the green screen was blue

1774
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,300
screen. We've talked about that.
It was chroma key blue. Before

1775
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:04,020
it was green. That's how old we
are. This was a conveyor belt

1776
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:07,740
that had a camera pointed down
on the conveyor belt, and that

1777
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:11,820
camera was the teleprompter
camera. And so they would send

1778
01:40:11,820 --> 01:40:15,480
me the scripts at night with a
with a car service, because the

1779
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:18,300
fax machine would just be one
long roll of fax that was

1780
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:21,500
completely unusable. This is
before fax machines would cut

1781
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:24,620
the roll. It was the thermal
paper, and so they put the

1782
01:40:24,620 --> 01:40:27,140
sheets under, and then they
would roll. They would, you

1783
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,140
know, with the controller, they
would roll this copy, which was

1784
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:34,760
just printed out from the Wang.
Is anybody getting the age here,

1785
01:40:35,480 --> 01:40:39,440
the way, the word process the
Wang, yeah. And they would roll

1786
01:40:39,440 --> 01:40:42,760
it underneath. And the speed was
variable. And we had two

1787
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,400
prompter people. One was John,
and I don't know if he's alive

1788
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:50,980
anymore, and he was a challenged
guy, but he was, he was one of

1789
01:40:50,980 --> 01:40:55,480
these autistic people that was
so focused, and he was so good.

1790
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,200
And sometimes there would be a
stand in for him, and I forget

1791
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,600
her name, if it was Michelle, or
I know she was known for other

1792
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:08,100
assets. She was like, everyone's
like, Yeah, let's hang out and

1793
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:11,460
play foosball with the Michelle.
How, what was her name and but

1794
01:41:11,460 --> 01:41:15,180
she couldn't do it. And it was
just, oh no. Some people can't.

1795
01:41:15,180 --> 01:41:18,000
She had the wrong she would,
wouldn't keep the right pace and

1796
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,720
everything horrible. Him anyway,

1797
01:41:20,780 --> 01:41:25,760
John C Dvorak: that would just
add on to that. So I would also

1798
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,820
watch other people do their
work. And Leo Laporte was the

1799
01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:33,080
more interesting of the group,
because Leo and this. I never

1800
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,580
did this. I did a little bit,
but rarely Leo would wander off

1801
01:41:37,580 --> 01:41:38,360
the prompter

1802
01:41:38,420 --> 01:41:40,120
Adam Curry: that can do that
too. I can wander off the

1803
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,340
prompter and come back. But the
prompter guy

1804
01:41:42,340 --> 01:41:44,380
John C Dvorak: would go nuts,
because it's like, what am I

1805
01:41:44,380 --> 01:41:47,320
doing? You know, I they don't
know what to do. No.

1806
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,800
Adam Curry: John the artist
could do it. He got it. He would

1807
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:51,160
wait for,

1808
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,680
John C Dvorak: well, that's a
rare bird, because most people,

1809
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,320
when Leo would go off, he was
yakking about something or

1810
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,740
others not on the prompter, just
going and going and going. And

1811
01:41:59,740 --> 01:42:02,400
this guy didn't know where to go
forward or backwards, or where

1812
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,940
was he it was. And the thing
would, it would it was hilarious

1813
01:42:05,940 --> 01:42:09,480
to watch, and I would sometimes
think of Leo did it on purpose.

1814
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,780
But maybe I rarely did that

1815
01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:16,380
Adam Curry: before we take a
break. I just wanted to salute

1816
01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:21,680
our many producers of no agenda
nation. They are everywhere. I

1817
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,320
want to talk about Helene and
Milton later, because I have

1818
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:29,600
some boots on the ground reports
regarding climate change and

1819
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:35,120
also regarding the climate haven
that was Asheville we just have,

1820
01:42:35,180 --> 01:42:37,700
and this is part of the time.
We'll talk about them at the

1821
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:41,800
time talents and treasure that
we want in this value for value

1822
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:46,060
podcast where, obviously we need
treasure, we appreciate people

1823
01:42:46,060 --> 01:42:49,660
who support us financially. But
there is going to be a topic

1824
01:42:49,660 --> 01:42:53,140
that you know about because it's
your job. You're an expert at

1825
01:42:53,140 --> 01:42:56,500
it. It may be shoeing horses for
all I know, but it is your

1826
01:42:56,500 --> 01:43:00,040
responsibility to reach out to
us and say, Hey, I happen to

1827
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:04,320
like a good example is, well,
first of all, thank you.

1828
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,940
Everybody who said Tina Roberts
was in Mesa, Colorado, and not

1829
01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:09,420
Arizona.

1830
01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:11,880
John C Dvorak: We got a lot of
that. I also got, I also got a

1831
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,840
lot of notes on the X rays,
moving the meteor law and very

1832
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,320
good ones from people. The last
one, which I you weren't copied

1833
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,120
on, just came in this morning
was this guy has all the

1834
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,540
formulas, and he says it would
take a million years to move

1835
01:43:26,540 --> 01:43:30,260
this thing. With these X rays,
you can't get enough X rays. We

1836
01:43:30,260 --> 01:43:32,600
Adam Curry: have a lot of smart
people, and I, like the

1837
01:43:33,260 --> 01:43:38,600
anonymous from Ireland, I sell
Q, PCR instruments, which were

1838
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:42,280
used to test for SARS, covid,
too. Oh, this, yeah, we

1839
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,780
John C Dvorak: have to read that
note just

1840
01:43:43,780 --> 01:43:46,000
Adam Curry: listening to the
latest podcast regarding Trump

1841
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:50,320
sending equipment to Putin back
then, the exact same instruments

1842
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:55,300
Trump had access to were sold in
Russia, whether our equipment or

1843
01:43:55,300 --> 01:43:58,600
other brands, if Putin wanted
one, he could have gotten one

1844
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:03,060
with no bother within Russia. So
I call complete BS, of course,

1845
01:44:03,060 --> 01:44:06,900
since the war, most companies,
including ours, have stopped

1846
01:44:06,900 --> 01:44:09,600
doing business. There some
lovely Russian people who I'd

1847
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:14,520
met on many an occasion are out
of a job. So Woodward's book is,

1848
01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:20,720
of course, bullcrap. Saying, Oh,
Trump sent over equipment. No,

1849
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:21,320
you could just

1850
01:44:21,740 --> 01:44:23,240
John C Dvorak: don't say
anything, because they'll get

1851
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,200
mad at you. Yeah,

1852
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:28,520
Adam Curry: and they're right.
Vlad, exactly. So a lot of

1853
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,880
people sent me this, and I love
it when we have our men and

1854
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:37,100
women who who are in uniform,
who serve America, the real

1855
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:41,080
people who serve America
overseas and at home, when they

1856
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,920
let everybody know it's all
right, we got your back. Hey,

1857
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,640
you crash in the ocean during a
storm and you're floating on

1858
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,280
your plane. We're going to pick
you up. I'm with the Coast

1859
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,800
Guard, and I'm going to let you
know that I'm a part of no

1860
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:54,700
agenda nation.

1861
01:44:54,820 --> 01:44:57,400
Unknown: Lieutenant Chad Paulson
was involved in that rescue, and

1862
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,080
he joins me now. What happened
here, sir?

1863
01:44:59,080 --> 01:44:59,920
In the morning?

1864
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,160
Thank you for having me

1865
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:09,300
Adam Curry: in the morning.
Nothing's better than that.

1866
01:45:09,540 --> 01:45:09,840
Yeah,

1867
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,240
John C Dvorak: in the morning.
And it's funny, it just blows by

1868
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,740
people, because for one thing,
it makes no sense. It's the best

1869
01:45:16,740 --> 01:45:20,040
part. But it's like, well, maybe
that's a greeting. I'm not sure.

1870
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,600
Yeah. Anyway. Now the cool thing
is, when, when somebody says, in

1871
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,600
the morning, the other person
says in the morning, well,

1872
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,000
Adam Curry: that's, that's what
you hear on the in aviation. You

1873
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,880
hear the pilot, and then
sometimes you'll hear the tower

1874
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:36,440
reply, because this is what it
is the smartest people who make

1875
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:41,500
the world run listen to this
podcast. That's just the fact I

1876
01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:43,420
don't know, you know, I don't
know any other and it's also

1877
01:45:43,420 --> 01:45:48,820
because we don't insult them by,
you know, running, would we

1878
01:45:48,820 --> 01:45:52,900
running ads and telling, yeah,
well, that is insult. Premium

1879
01:45:52,900 --> 01:45:56,860
content is behind the fire wall.
Premium content, that's my pet

1880
01:45:56,860 --> 01:45:59,800
peeve. Instead, I'd like to say,
in the morning to you, the man

1881
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,700
who put the sea and the new
screw. Say hello to my friend on

1882
01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:04,620
the other end, the one and only
Mr.

1883
01:46:10,440 --> 01:46:12,300
John C Dvorak: John C's round
ship. See boosts at the ground,

1884
01:46:12,300 --> 01:46:15,000
feet in the air, subs in the
water, and all the Dames and

1885
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:16,860
nights out there. All right,
running up cotton. Do a

1886
01:46:18,420 --> 01:46:20,360
Unknown: little count. Let me
see. Money, 2204

1887
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,240
Adam Curry: at the peak, trolls
listening in

1888
01:46:27,500 --> 01:46:32,840
John C Dvorak: what was the
number? Again, 2204, low. It's

1889
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,980
Adam Curry: low by 200 All
right. Well, we're glad to have

1890
01:46:36,980 --> 01:46:39,560
you trolls here anyway. Thank
you very much for listening at

1891
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:44,380
no agenda. Dot, stream or
trollroom.io which is great

1892
01:46:44,380 --> 01:46:47,140
because the trolls get in there
and just roll with it. But

1893
01:46:47,140 --> 01:46:49,540
without those trolls, I would
have never come up with Jordache

1894
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,200
jeans. And there's some other
insults that were in there,

1895
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,140
which is always fun. It's always
it's not distracting

1896
01:46:57,940 --> 01:46:59,320
Unknown: at all. We want to say
something

1897
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,280
Adam Curry: DoorDash Jordache.
Nothing becomes between me and

1898
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,660
my jaw dashes. I think that was
the tagline. Oh, yeah, yeah. So

1899
01:47:06,660 --> 01:47:09,900
the trolls can also listen on a
modern podcast app, which,

1900
01:47:09,900 --> 01:47:14,280
believe me, you're gonna want to
have it the last show I people

1901
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:19,020
were so mad about what? Apple
has an update. It's been three

1902
01:47:19,020 --> 01:47:26,000
hours, but that that's apple.
That's the whole point. We use

1903
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:31,340
this pod ping technology, which
is a true technology, which is

1904
01:47:31,340 --> 01:47:34,940
part of podcasting 2.0 and the
modern apps, they update within

1905
01:47:34,940 --> 01:47:38,180
90 seconds. So when we publish,
boom, you got it. You have to

1906
01:47:38,180 --> 01:47:40,720
sit around. And it was the best
commercial for the modern

1907
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,900
podcast apps. Thank you. Apple
people are like, you know, I got

1908
01:47:43,900 --> 01:47:47,620
to get off this thing, because
you're behind the times. And in

1909
01:47:47,620 --> 01:47:50,620
addition to that, you also do
not get an alert on Apple or

1910
01:47:50,620 --> 01:47:54,700
Spotify. We're not on Spotify at
all, or on Amazon or any other

1911
01:47:54,700 --> 01:47:59,140
app that your YouTube. You don't
get an alert when we go live.

1912
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,040
No, you get that on the modern
podcast app, the one where

1913
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,440
you're actually subscribing to
the podcast. So if you can't

1914
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:07,080
listen live, no problem. We'll
alert you as soon as it's

1915
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,720
published, and that's usually
within 30 minutes of finishing

1916
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:14,220
up the show. Podcastapps.com we
explain the whole point of time

1917
01:48:14,220 --> 01:48:18,120
talent and treasure, and we do
have some extra talented people

1918
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:22,160
known as the no agenda artists
who are busy during the live

1919
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:28,940
stream, coming up with artwork
that we can use, just for the

1920
01:48:29,060 --> 01:48:32,120
for the album artwork on the
show, which we've been doing way

1921
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,420
before, even, you know, it's
been, it's been a standard

1922
01:48:35,540 --> 01:48:39,620
forever Apple finally caught up
a few years back. But we've been

1923
01:48:39,620 --> 01:48:42,460
doing this forever, and it's
great because you can use it,

1924
01:48:42,460 --> 01:48:45,700
you know, when we post the show
and people promote the show, and

1925
01:48:45,700 --> 01:48:49,420
it's interesting. And these
artists are Dutch masters, so

1926
01:48:49,780 --> 01:48:53,800
it's always fun to see what they
come up with. And we want to

1927
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:59,860
thank now, thank you also to all
of our artists. This was the

1928
01:48:59,980 --> 01:49:04,200
multiple tornadoes with the
cheesecake butt on the beach,

1929
01:49:04,740 --> 01:49:09,660
which you said, I like it. I
said, Okay. And I got several, I

1930
01:49:09,660 --> 01:49:13,260
received several messages of
people saying, best artwork all

1931
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:15,600
year. So,

1932
01:49:15,900 --> 01:49:19,680
John C Dvorak: so when you blow
it up and on like Twitter, it's

1933
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:20,480
a good piece.

1934
01:49:20,780 --> 01:49:24,080
Adam Curry: It's gorgeous. It is
now Tom Stoffel,

1935
01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:27,080
John C Dvorak: there's a
cheesecake. It was overall. It

1936
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,100
wasn't just the butt, no nice
legs, you know, just the back of

1937
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:34,040
someone. Yeah, this is a good
picture. We I, I'm like, an

1938
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,280
advocate of cheesecake, because
it's attractive, and that's what

1939
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,560
you put it there for. Even
though you have a bunch of

1940
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,420
people, you know, you have some
certain groups of people that

1941
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think it's exploitative. It's
not who will make Who are we

1942
01:49:46,780 --> 01:49:50,320
exploiting here? This is AI art.
We're not exploiting anybody.

1943
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No, who's being exploited
specifically. And

1944
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,960
Adam Curry: I'm all for it. Now.
I want all as much slop to flow

1945
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:59,320
through the stairwells of the
digital Tower of Babel as

1946
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:03,060
possible. To make it unusable
and unattractive. So keep it up,

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01:50:03,060 --> 01:50:06,720
people. This is good. I'm now
all for it. More more more the

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tan Stoffel, T, A, N, S, T, A,
A, F, l, all uppercase. Thank

1949
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,180
you to the multitude of
producers who said, um, dude,

1950
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,980
that's from science fiction
author Robert Heinlein, and it's

1951
01:50:19,980 --> 01:50:23,480
a theme in his writings. It is
an acronym. There ain't no such

1952
01:50:23,480 --> 01:50:27,500
thing as a free lunch. And we
didn't catch that,

1953
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:31,640
John C Dvorak: no, not at all,
but we

1954
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:35,600
Adam Curry: did now, and well,
thank you. There ain't no such

1955
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:39,320
thing as a free lunch. From now
on, we'll just be tons. Stoffel,

1956
01:50:39,740 --> 01:50:44,080
can't help it. We appreciate it.
That was, it was a great piece.

1957
01:50:44,500 --> 01:50:47,380
It really was. It worked out
well. We thought it was fun. You

1958
01:50:47,380 --> 01:50:49,780
know, I was reading, there was
an interesting article on a

1959
01:50:49,780 --> 01:50:54,700
second. There was a Dutch study
that was done. Let me see, do I

1960
01:50:54,700 --> 01:51:03,180
have it here? Yes. Study shows
real art stimulates the brain

1961
01:51:03,180 --> 01:51:09,420
more than a copy. And so, and
the reason real art, so actual

1962
01:51:09,420 --> 01:51:12,480
art stimulates the brain more
than a

1963
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:16,140
John C Dvorak: copy, it's a
copy. What? How does he define a

1964
01:51:16,140 --> 01:51:16,620
copy?

1965
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:19,020
Adam Curry: Scientists in the
Netherlands prove that

1966
01:51:19,020 --> 01:51:23,720
experiencing the real art in
person stimulates the brain 10

1967
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:28,580
times more than viewing a
reproduced image. And so they

1968
01:51:28,580 --> 01:51:31,280
took all these great Dutch
masters from no agenda, Art

1969
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:36,800
Generator. But also, you know,
Vermeer and Van Gogh, Vermeer is

1970
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,560
the one that they show in this
article, which is, you know, the

1971
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:43,540
milkmaid, girl with her head
turned back, and so they, they

1972
01:51:43,540 --> 01:51:47,080
hooked a bunch of people up to
brain brain wave. The girl with

1973
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,720
the pearl earring, that's the
one they they hooked up a bunch

1974
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:53,320
of people to brainwave machines.
And when you're looking at the

1975
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:58,180
actual art live in the museum,
your brain is stimulated 10

1976
01:51:58,180 --> 01:52:03,300
times more than looking at a
copy, a reproduction of it in

1977
01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:07,680
the museum, on the wall than the
original, which I think is

1978
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:08,400
fascinating. Did

1979
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,320
John C Dvorak: they put a
reproduction up on the wall in

1980
01:52:10,380 --> 01:52:14,040
the museum? Yes, they did. They
did. They did. Now that, which

1981
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:18,300
brings us to another interesting
factoid. What about the artists?

1982
01:52:18,420 --> 01:52:21,320
I'm not sure Vermeer was one of
them, but most artists,

1983
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:27,920
Velasquez for sure, uh, they had
a team of people, and they would

1984
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,620
do a portrait of somebody.
Usually it was somebody in the

1985
01:52:30,620 --> 01:52:34,820
royal family, and they would be
copies. May hand it off. They

1986
01:52:34,820 --> 01:52:38,540
have five copies, and they were
all identical.

1987
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,240
Adam Curry: Well that that they
did not study,

1988
01:52:44,260 --> 01:52:48,760
John C Dvorak: no because that
would be the same. Maybe it

1989
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,760
should be the same because the
artist and the and the and the

1990
01:52:52,180 --> 01:52:56,320
and the mentees, the proteges
who did the same exact pieces,

1991
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,200
they were taught by the same
artists, and the brush strokes

1992
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,440
were similar. Everything was the
same, and they make these

1993
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:05,280
copies. There's, there's plenty
of examples around the museums

1994
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:09,000
of the world where where a piece
exists in three museums at the

1995
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:13,140
same time, and they're all
original. How does that work so?

1996
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,720
Adam Curry: Well, probably the
same. I would say that those

1997
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,680
originals it. I think the point
is between a an original piece

1998
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:26,840
of art versus the poster. The
volunteers brain waves and eye

1999
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,300
movements were measured and
analyzed. The researchers found

2000
01:53:29,300 --> 01:53:32,960
that, compared to reproductions,
real art evokes a much stronger

2001
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,700
positive response in the
precuneus, which is the part of

2002
01:53:37,700 --> 01:53:40,480
the brain responsible for
personal identity, memory and

2003
01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:44,260
consciousness, which kind of
brings me to the point that

2004
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:50,020
would this, I'd like to know is,
does AI art have less of a

2005
01:53:50,020 --> 01:53:52,900
response than original art, even
though now that would be worth

2006
01:53:52,900 --> 01:53:55,300
studying. That's the I'm I've
already read

2007
01:53:55,300 --> 01:53:58,000
John C Dvorak: some of the art
that we've we've put up, which

2008
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:03,660
is a much AI art. Yes, to that,
I much be a much

2009
01:54:04,440 --> 01:54:05,280
Adam Curry: be forgotten.

2010
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,720
John C Dvorak: For example, this
particular piece by scaramonga,

2011
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,360
who I don't know why he's
submitting anything, because he

2012
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:12,960
hates us.

2013
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,060
Adam Curry: There's another clip
being made. Yes,

2014
01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:21,740
John C Dvorak: there is a piece.
I mean, this is a piece that is

2015
01:54:21,740 --> 01:54:27,440
quite striking when you see it,
uh, especially blowed up. And I

2016
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:30,620
it has a it has an effect. So I
don't know,

2017
01:54:31,220 --> 01:54:32,960
Adam Curry: is this some? Is
this something that's new,

2018
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,820
that's up? No,

2019
01:54:34,820 --> 01:54:36,920
John C Dvorak: the his piece,
this piece we're talking about?

2020
01:54:36,980 --> 01:54:39,140
No, the piece with the
tornadoes, that was not

2021
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:43,120
Adam Curry: Scaramanga. Oh, that
was Scaramanga, yeah, I

2022
01:54:43,180 --> 01:54:45,040
miscredited him. Yes. Well, I

2023
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,300
John C Dvorak: didn't know you
miscredited. I

2024
01:54:46,300 --> 01:54:47,920
Adam Curry: didn't know. That's
just my mistake. I

2025
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,320
John C Dvorak: missed. Well,
that's, you know, it doesn't

2026
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:51,940
like you, so

2027
01:54:51,940 --> 01:54:54,460
Adam Curry: loves me. This is
this

2028
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,580
John C Dvorak: very these, some
of these pieces have been quite

2029
01:54:57,580 --> 01:54:58,840
spectacular. This,

2030
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,440
Adam Curry: this girl is the
only. AI girl he has, he's the

2031
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:02,820
same girl, yeah? Well, this

2032
01:55:03,300 --> 01:55:08,880
John C Dvorak: yes, these guys,
they have their, theirs, with

2033
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,540
their girl. That's, yeah, he
has, yeah, there's a number, a

2034
01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:16,680
couple artists have a girl and
they keep using her, yeah, yeah,

2035
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,620
yeah. It's, it's kind of
perverted. Do you think?

2036
01:55:21,780 --> 01:55:23,960
Adam Curry: Thank you to all of
the artists who submitted art.

2037
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:27,800
We appreciate it. Everyone,
everyone does tries, and

2038
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,160
everyone has an equal shot. And
of course, we're happy to

2039
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,500
critique wherever necessary.
There really wasn't all that

2040
01:55:33,500 --> 01:55:37,580
much. I kind of liked Dr Scott
had a hurricane buttons with

2041
01:55:37,580 --> 01:55:40,840
tsunamis, but compared to the
Scaramanga piece, I mean, it

2042
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:44,800
was, it was just a that was a
work of art. It was a literal

2043
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,140
work of art. Was there something
else that we liked? I don't

2044
01:55:47,140 --> 01:55:52,660
think so. There's Kamala
pushing. That's Darren. Kamala,

2045
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:56,140
you make Darren look Darren.
Your your Kamala, AI, makes her

2046
01:55:56,140 --> 01:55:59,140
look too good. And that's your
problem there. It doesn't look

2047
01:55:59,140 --> 01:56:00,220
like her. No, it doesn't.

2048
01:56:00,340 --> 01:56:04,740
John C Dvorak: She needs to be
more haggard looking. That's the

2049
01:56:04,740 --> 01:56:07,740
key operator. Put put the
keyword in Yeah, put that word

2050
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:10,740
in there. Prompt, haggard, the
prompt, by

2051
01:56:10,740 --> 01:56:13,980
Adam Curry: the way, we titled
The episode 1702, slop and

2052
01:56:13,980 --> 01:56:16,440
Hopper, which,

2053
01:56:16,980 --> 01:56:18,660
John C Dvorak: we got some notes
about that too.

2054
01:56:18,660 --> 01:56:20,460
Adam Curry: Oh, did you get a
note about slopping up writing

2055
01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:21,380
good enough. Oh, yeah. Oh, you

2056
01:56:21,380 --> 01:56:26,600
John C Dvorak: guys are deaf.
Obviously said swap for copper.

2057
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:26,960
And we, I

2058
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,120
Adam Curry: think we even
mentioned that. But, okay, yeah,

2059
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:29,720
but we did

2060
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,240
John C Dvorak: you listen and
listen? It's like you listen

2061
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:36,980
once, one person, one of our
female listeners, just you

2062
01:56:37,340 --> 01:56:40,960
dummies. You heard it. You say
you listen 10 times. It was very

2063
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:45,220
clearly swapping for copper. Did
she

2064
01:56:45,220 --> 01:56:48,820
Adam Curry: start to know it off
with I'm surprised. I'm

2065
01:56:48,820 --> 01:56:53,800
disappointed. Yeah, listen, it
only took me two minutes to look

2066
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,980
that up. We're doing stuff on
the fly. I looked it up. I knew

2067
01:56:56,980 --> 01:57:00,720
the answer right away. Do your
own podcast. Hey, let's thank

2068
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:04,020
the executive and Associate
Executive producers and many

2069
01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:09,120
future Commodores who supported
us with with the treasure for

2070
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:13,800
today, with, we of course
appreciate any amount that

2071
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,280
anybody sends at any time for
any reason, but usually sending

2072
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:21,440
value back for the value they
receive for the show and $200

2073
01:57:21,980 --> 01:57:24,440
and above for each episode, we
read your note and you get an

2074
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,320
Associate Executive
producership. $300 and above, we

2075
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,840
read your note and you get an
executive producership. And

2076
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,240
these are credits that are
completely valid in the land of

2077
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,880
show business. If people still
care, just take a look@imdb.com

2078
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,120
where people post all their
credits. And you can go look,

2079
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,340
and you'll see that there are
many people who are executive

2080
01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:43,120
and Associate Executive
producers of this very podcast,

2081
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:47,380
the no agenda podcast, and if
you didn't see the newsletter,

2082
01:57:47,380 --> 01:57:50,080
you should subscribe to it. It's
on the front page of every show

2083
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:57,400
notes because I I posed with my
Commodore papers. Yes, you did,

2084
01:57:57,700 --> 01:57:58,240
and

2085
01:57:59,260 --> 01:58:01,980
John C Dvorak: got some comments
from some people, I'm

2086
01:58:01,980 --> 01:58:05,700
Adam Curry: very disappointed no
one has put a Star of David on

2087
01:58:05,700 --> 01:58:13,440
it yet, or a yarmulke. Very
disappointed. No, I've gotten no

2088
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:14,220
comments

2089
01:58:15,180 --> 01:58:18,660
John C Dvorak: even drew a
mustache or anything, anything.

2090
01:58:20,460 --> 01:58:24,140
Adam Curry: But we did get a
contribution from miss you.

2091
01:58:24,140 --> 01:58:27,140
John C Dvorak: Did get a comment
from Catherine in Cambodia or

2092
01:58:27,140 --> 01:58:28,700
Thailand, or wherever she is.
Well,

2093
01:58:28,700 --> 01:58:32,120
Adam Curry: what's she saying?
Nice teeth. Oh, well, thank you.

2094
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:37,520
Thank you. I saved a long time
for them. Mr. Black is in resvec

2095
01:58:37,580 --> 01:58:42,640
in the Netherlands, comes in
with 526 36 and says, Dear John

2096
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:46,600
and Adam, what better to gift
myself for my birthday, October

2097
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:50,680
15, you're on the list than a no
agenda Commodore credential.

2098
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,920
Thank you for your courage. And
keep on, keeping on Mr. Black,

2099
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:56,860
who will become Commodore?
Black? Yes,

2100
01:58:56,860 --> 01:58:59,800
John C Dvorak: especially if he
goes to no agenda rings.com and

2101
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:02,040
puts in the details of where
they send the Commodore

2102
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,220
certificate, yes, and what he
wants to have on the

2103
01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:08,760
certificate. A lot of people,
we've only gotten, probably half

2104
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:09,660
the people have,

2105
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:11,820
Adam Curry: oh, you got to do
that. People, you got to do

2106
01:59:11,820 --> 01:59:13,440
that. Otherwise you won't
receive it.

2107
01:59:13,620 --> 01:59:15,480
John C Dvorak: You got to do it.
Yeah, because we don't know, you

2108
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,240
know, in his exact same the
right shipping address, and the

2109
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,320
exact way, if

2110
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,660
Adam Curry: I may, this, it is,
by far, probably the most

2111
01:59:23,660 --> 01:59:27,440
beautiful document we've
produced. I love how it was

2112
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,260
shipped. It comes in a not a
small, but a large

2113
01:59:30,380 --> 01:59:33,620
John C Dvorak: that you're
shipping. No, it doesn't. No,

2114
01:59:33,620 --> 01:59:38,780
you got a special one in a tube.
The rest of them are put in

2115
01:59:38,780 --> 01:59:47,200
these large post stuff in 11 by
14, big, uh, hard, hard, post

2116
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,500
office, yes, yeah, and post
office approved with it, with

2117
01:59:50,500 --> 01:59:52,900
the sheet. Otherwise, it's
exactly the same. The

2118
01:59:53,140 --> 01:59:55,060
Adam Curry: point I was going to
make is, I love that there's

2119
01:59:55,060 --> 01:59:58,360
tracing paper so it's protected.
I'm sure you're doing that

2120
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,660
dressing paper where they're all
going to be. And it and the

2121
02:00:00,660 --> 02:00:05,400
vellum and the seal. What is it?
Vellum? Vellum? Give me some

2122
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:11,280
vellum. I like a five meters of
vellum. The seal has, has blue

2123
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:14,460
ribbon, which is actual ribbon.
It's very pretty piece.

2124
02:00:14,580 --> 02:00:16,860
John C Dvorak: It's also God
says on the on the seals.

2125
02:00:16,860 --> 02:00:20,780
Commodore, yes, yes, very, very
I think it, I agree. It's the

2126
02:00:20,780 --> 02:00:24,200
prettiest document that we've
ever produced. Jay designed it,

2127
02:00:24,620 --> 02:00:25,460
pretty much.

2128
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,060
Adam Curry: And it's an official
Commodore ship,

2129
02:00:29,540 --> 02:00:31,760
John C Dvorak: yeah. So it's a
good looking product,

2130
02:00:32,420 --> 02:00:34,580
Adam Curry: outstanding product,
as usual,

2131
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:38,180
John C Dvorak: sir. Sleepy also
could get one of these $500

2132
02:00:38,900 --> 02:00:43,120
Commodore ships. He's in Gentry,
Arkansas, and he says, As a

2133
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:47,800
switcheroo, he'd like to gift
gift the Commodore title to his

2134
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:53,860
dad, Larry Aaron Berger, as his
pontoon project boat has

2135
02:00:53,860 --> 02:00:59,500
recently passed sea worthiness
tests. It is fitting that a

2136
02:00:59,500 --> 02:01:02,460
newly commissioned vessel should
have a newly commissioned

2137
02:01:02,460 --> 02:01:04,560
captain. There you go, and
Commodore. In this case,

2138
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,960
Commodore, keep up the great
work and looking forward to four

2139
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,720
more years. Thanks, sir. Sleepy
of the late nights. All

2140
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,840
Adam Curry: right. Switch roo
has been put in place. Ken

2141
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:16,080
Chapman is in Rosemont,
Illinois, $500 in the morning.

2142
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:20,040
Gents as a Trekkie, the
combination of 1701 shows on a

2143
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,660
Commodore ship was too good to
pass. It's also an opportunity

2144
02:01:23,660 --> 02:01:27,980
for me to update on my Canadian
refugee status. Ah, oh, this is

2145
02:01:27,980 --> 02:01:31,280
the guy with the bus and the
family. I think, yes, I believe

2146
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:35,420
so. Oh yeah, I think so. Our
visa renewal was approved this

2147
02:01:35,420 --> 02:01:38,300
summer. My business is thriving.
Construction has started on her

2148
02:01:38,300 --> 02:01:42,100
house, and my wife is pregnant
with our sixth human resource

2149
02:01:44,140 --> 02:01:48,820
Good job. How do you find the
time good work? Since my company

2150
02:01:48,820 --> 02:01:52,000
is growing, I find myself in
need of some help. If there are

2151
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,940
any producers out there looking
to pick up part time, remote

2152
02:01:54,940 --> 02:01:58,300
work and have experience in
construction restoration, slash

2153
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:03,000
property claim industry, send me
your resume with subject ITM to

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info at Vanguard, adj.com,
Vanguard. ADG, so, Vanguard, AD,

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02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:18,360
G, adj, you said, JJ, adj, adj,
Vanguard, adj.com, if any

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02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:24,140
contractors need an exactimate
estimate writer to help with

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02:02:24,140 --> 02:02:27,200
their damage claim estimates.
Email me them as well. I have no

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02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:30,140
idea what that means. Commodore
donation requestion, does the

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02:02:30,140 --> 02:02:33,740
Commodore donation count towards
knighthood? Answer, yes, if so,

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02:02:33,740 --> 02:02:36,380
with past donations, including a
small monthly I've surpassed

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02:02:36,380 --> 02:02:40,480
that goal, please Knight me, Sir
Ken of the iron suka. It's the

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02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,240
name of our big green converted
school bus. Yes, he's the guys I

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02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:47,080
met in Nash, in Tennessee, in
Nashville, with with a million

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02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:50,860
kids in it. Producers, please
listen. Adam and John deserve

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02:02:50,860 --> 02:02:55,180
our support. A modest recurring
donation of $3.33 is not too

2166
02:02:55,180 --> 02:02:59,620
small and is not insulting. If
you can't afford $3.30 $3 a

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02:02:59,620 --> 02:03:02,220
month, you need to take a hard
look in the mirror. Stop telling

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02:03:02,220 --> 02:03:04,380
yourself that you'll donate
later when you have something

2169
02:03:04,380 --> 02:03:07,680
more substantial to send.
Subscribe now you'll feel

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02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:14,160
terrific every donation segment
instead of guilt and shame. ITM

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02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,880
Thank you. Appreciate it. Say hi
to your beautiful family.

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02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:23,060
John C Dvorak: Luke Powell in
Chris Christiana, Tennessee, 573

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02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:30,620
is w5 BSy. He writes, please dub
me Commander crunch. No agenda

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02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:31,940
rings, com Commodore, not

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02:03:31,940 --> 02:03:33,140
Adam Curry: commander Commodore.
I

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02:03:33,140 --> 02:03:35,660
John C Dvorak: said, Canada. I
said, Canada Commodore. I said,

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02:03:35,660 --> 02:03:39,320
Captain. I don't know what I
said. This donation gets me

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02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:42,820
three fourths of the way towards
knighthood and John. Nice to

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02:03:42,820 --> 02:03:45,760
hear you're a fellow Kentucky
Colonel, ah, another Kentucky

2180
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:49,600
Colonel. Luke Powell is a
Kentucky Colonel 70 threes. He's

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02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:54,460
in Christiana, Tennessee w5 bs.
Why we there's big meetups every

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02:03:54,460 --> 02:03:56,860
year. That's right. That's
right. They also have some

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02:03:56,860 --> 02:03:58,600
Kentucky Colonel glassware,

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02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:01,740
Adam Curry: no, like a beer
stein. No,

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02:04:01,740 --> 02:04:03,480
John C Dvorak: it's just
glassware. It's just, you know,

2186
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:04,800
like a tumbler. Oh, Tumblr.

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02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:09,420
Adam Curry: Chris fossgate,
Kansas City, Missouri, 500 your

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02:04:09,420 --> 02:04:12,780
media deconstruction is second
to none. Thanks for all you do.

2189
02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:16,140
Thanks for the Commodore title,
sir. Chris Fosgate in Kansas

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02:04:16,140 --> 02:04:19,620
City, Knight of the Kansas City.
Real Estate, no jingles, no

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02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:20,040
karma,

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02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:24,320
John C Dvorak: sir. Jimmy James.
Jimmy James in Oklahoma City,

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02:04:24,380 --> 02:04:29,540
Oklahoma, $500 sir. Jimmy James
of the South Central Florida,

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02:04:29,780 --> 02:04:30,560
God bless

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02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,140
Adam Curry: you all. South
Central Florida, flatlands. He

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02:04:33,140 --> 02:04:35,480
John C Dvorak: says, flatlands.
Flatlands. Yes. Thank

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02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:38,960
Adam Curry: you. Michael Gonella
Hamilton, New Jersey, hello,

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02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:43,000
Hamilton. 500 Hello. Please make
me commodore of Scientology.

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02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,840
Thank you. Ah, I don't know the
sea org might have Commodores in

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02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:50,200
it so, but it's okay. You're
good with us. Commodore

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02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:53,740
Scientology, go to no agenda
rings.com. Fill it out.

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02:04:55,900 --> 02:05:01,680
John C Dvorak: Zachary McClellan
in Franken. Muth, Michigan,

2203
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:07,380
three, three, 3.33. A big
congratulations to Ed weirdo of

2204
02:05:07,380 --> 02:05:10,200
Michigan on a successful brain
surgery.

2205
02:05:11,220 --> 02:05:12,660
Unknown: Will you Yeah? Wow,

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02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:15,180
John C Dvorak: hopefully now you
will not vote for Camelot

2207
02:05:16,620 --> 02:05:20,720
please. Can he please get a
douchebag?

2208
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:27,080
Adam Curry: No problem. Baron
Harkonnen and damsel of

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02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:31,400
distressed jeans in Houston,
Texas, 333 dot 19 from the Baron

2210
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,640
and from the damsel of distress
jeans. Many thanks to Linda Lou

2211
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:39,200
for the new executive role. Ah,
this is a testimonial. We are

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02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:43,180
hosting another comedy show
slash goat rodeo at the ranch in

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02:05:43,180 --> 02:05:47,440
Arvada, Colorado on October 19.
Details at no agenda,

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02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:50,620
meetups.com, no jingles, no
karma. Hey, that sounds like a

2215
02:05:50,620 --> 02:05:56,380
fun one comedy show, goat rodeo.
No Nice. Nice Guys. Mike

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02:05:56,380 --> 02:05:59,920
John C Dvorak: sisto's In
Rotunda Beach, Florida, 23456,

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02:06:00,820 --> 02:06:03,720
first Associate Executive
Producer, and he says, Adam,

2218
02:06:03,780 --> 02:06:06,480
yeah, as I write this note, we
are recovering from Hurricane

2219
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:09,060
Milton here on the Gulf Coast of
Florida, just wanted to say

2220
02:06:09,060 --> 02:06:11,340
thanks for all the first
responders and send prayers to

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02:06:11,340 --> 02:06:15,240
those that were less fortunate
than us, as we thankfully only

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02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:18,600
took a glancing blow and had
some minor damage. This is my

2223
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:23,120
yearly get your our wives out of
jail donation. And I feel

2224
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:26,180
compelled to make that. I feel
compelled to make to ensure

2225
02:06:26,180 --> 02:06:29,780
they're released from the
inevitable run ins with the law

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02:06:29,780 --> 02:06:32,480
in the Great Smoky Mountains.
Yes, Tina

2227
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:36,260
Adam Curry: is up with the girls
in the Smoky Mountains. They are

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02:06:36,260 --> 02:06:40,060
hiking, and this includes his
wife. So, you know, we have a

2229
02:06:40,060 --> 02:06:43,780
little club, a little club, and
we all talk. We all drink beer

2230
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:46,540
and and talk about our wives
when, there's when they're

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02:06:46,540 --> 02:06:47,860
hiking. Luckily,

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02:06:47,860 --> 02:06:52,240
John C Dvorak: my wife, Dame
elemental of the manasota key,

2233
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:56,740
was able to meet up with the
gang only a day late to continue

2234
02:06:56,740 --> 02:07:00,480
to reign of terror across the
unsuspecting states. So you

2235
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:00,720
know,

2236
02:07:00,780 --> 02:07:04,680
Adam Curry: it was really, Tina
was texting with her, and they

2237
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:08,520
were kind of freaked out by the
reporting, of course, and they

2238
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:10,860
were still there, and they
couldn't, they couldn't get out

2239
02:07:10,860 --> 02:07:15,240
because the the highway was all
jammed. They wound up spending

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the night with their dog in, I
think, a school, there was some

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02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:23,000
shelter, and they went back
their house was, I guess, okay,

2242
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:27,500
and she was able to get a flight
out, and she flew right up and

2243
02:07:27,500 --> 02:07:31,580
and joined them a day later. So
everything turned out good, and

2244
02:07:31,580 --> 02:07:35,060
we're, of course, very happy
that you guys are okay.

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02:07:36,500 --> 02:07:39,320
John C Dvorak: Please earmark
the donation for whatever you

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02:07:39,380 --> 02:07:42,880
deem to ensure their freedom.
Shout out to Sir Don from

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02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:47,980
Arizona, as I'm sure he will be
following up with a donation for

2248
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:52,180
springing his wife from the
joint two no jingles, but please

2249
02:07:52,180 --> 02:07:55,960
send some karma to the Florida
Gulf Coast. Thanks, Mike, yeah.

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Thank

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02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,240
Adam Curry: you very much. Mike,
here's for the girls. Get him

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02:07:58,240 --> 02:07:58,660
out of jail.

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02:07:58,660 --> 02:08:00,100
Unknown: You've got karma.

2254
02:08:02,380 --> 02:08:04,380
Adam Curry: And there's Eli, the
coffee guy with an Associate

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02:08:04,380 --> 02:08:08,520
Executive producership, 210, 14.
Thank you. No agenda. Show. Your

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02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:12,180
advice on getting my ham radio
license inspired me. It's been

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02:08:12,180 --> 02:08:14,760
an action on my to do list for
the past few years. But as you

2258
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:18,480
said, What am I waiting for?
Soon I'll be able to use my Bao

2259
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:22,700
Fang without getting rousted by
goons from the FCC. Can I get an

2260
02:08:22,700 --> 02:08:25,460
eating the dogs? Jingle for
producers who want fresh,

2261
02:08:25,460 --> 02:08:28,880
roasted coffee at an affordable
price, they should just visit

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02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:33,560
gigawatt Coffee roasters.com and
use code ITM 20 for 20% off your

2263
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:36,440
order stay caffeinated. Eli, the
coffee guy,

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02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:38,000
Unknown: they're eating the
dogs.

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02:08:39,140 --> 02:08:43,420
John C Dvorak: Casey. Casey
Conrad in Pickering, Ontario,

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02:08:43,420 --> 02:08:47,740
Canada, 201, 99 Dear John and
Adam in the morning to you fine.

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02:08:47,740 --> 02:08:51,100
Jensen, thank you for your
courage and all that you do. My

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02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:54,640
name is Casey Conrad, and I'm a
longtime listener and a first

2269
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:59,080
time donor. Please accept my
donation. 2018, dot 99 and

2270
02:08:59,080 --> 02:09:02,100
Canadian dollarettes for an
Associate Executive Producer

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02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:05,400
title, which is probably like
$10 USD, due to the Canadian

2272
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:08,580
dollar being so abysmally bad,
right? We honor your dollar

2273
02:09:08,580 --> 02:09:12,300
rent. It's actually 11 bucks. I
recently launched a new graphic

2274
02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:15,900
novel titled PC Pete and the
brood of clones under my new

2275
02:09:15,900 --> 02:09:19,560
publishing company called two
cat comics. This graphic novel

2276
02:09:19,620 --> 02:09:24,080
pays homage to all the OG
computer nerds and geeks out

2277
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:27,500
there. I'm looking at you, John
C Dvorak, as all of my

2278
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:31,280
characters are computers, not
robots, being in my 50s, now, I

2279
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:34,340
wanted to create and share
something with the world as my

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02:09:34,340 --> 02:09:38,540
way of leaving a lasting legacy.
I would also like to pursue this

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02:09:38,540 --> 02:09:42,160
in a full time manner and leave
my stressful nine to five jobs,

2282
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:45,100
and would love and appreciate
any support I can get from the

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02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:48,040
no agenda nation. I have two
other ideas that I'd like to

2284
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:51,880
work on to purchase a copy in
either high quality PDF or

2285
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:56,380
print. Please visit my website
at two cat comics.com or simply

2286
02:09:56,380 --> 02:10:01,500
go to the amazon.com and search
for PCP. Clones, please.

2287
02:10:01,860 --> 02:10:03,120
Alisonia dedushing,

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02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:07,140
Unknown: you've been deduced.
And

2289
02:10:07,140 --> 02:10:09,060
John C Dvorak: give me some
karma for this new endeavor.

2290
02:10:09,060 --> 02:10:11,040
Thank you kindly in advance,

2291
02:10:13,140 --> 02:10:14,880
Unknown: you've got karma

2292
02:10:15,180 --> 02:10:19,740
Adam Curry: you want just
classic PCs. I watched a YouTube

2293
02:10:19,740 --> 02:10:23,720
video last night, did you know
that the they've brought back

2294
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:28,820
the Commodore 64 called the
Commodore 64x and it's no and

2295
02:10:28,820 --> 02:10:34,340
it's exactly the same casing. It
has the same keyboard, but it

2296
02:10:34,340 --> 02:10:38,000
has like, I think, and get it
loaded with Linux. But it's, you

2297
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:41,620
have to see this thing they've
done all the sound effects. I

2298
02:10:41,620 --> 02:10:46,060
mean, it's, it's mind blowing.
You can load all the old games.

2299
02:10:46,060 --> 02:10:50,800
It has emulators on it is really
stunning. Yeah, real just

2300
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,560
because the guy brought up
geeky, old, nerdy stuff. It's

2301
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:55,840
like, I need to get there you
go. Think I need to get one of

2302
02:10:55,840 --> 02:11:00,780
these. Dan Richmond is an Al
ashua. Doesn't sound right.

2303
02:11:00,780 --> 02:11:04,200
Alachua. Alachua, there you go.
Alachua. It's in Florida.

2304
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:07,920
$200.66 notes sent to Adam. I
looked it up. Yes, indeed.

2305
02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:10,980
Wanted to add some context on
your coverage of Howard Stern. I

2306
02:11:10,980 --> 02:11:14,700
was a longtime superfan around
2013 you made a purposeful

2307
02:11:14,700 --> 02:11:17,700
shift. Went from a small crew,
couple of writers, to an army of

2308
02:11:17,700 --> 02:11:20,220
staffers. And we were talking
about this on the previous

2309
02:11:20,220 --> 02:11:25,640
episode, dozens of writers,
apparently about 77 zero. What?

2310
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:31,100
Yes. So he said, Fear rid of
millions. Feared cancel culture

2311
02:11:31,100 --> 02:11:34,880
and wanted to capture the MSNBC
crowd nuked his audience. Guys

2312
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:38,360
like me went from being devout
super fans to hating him. Then

2313
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:43,120
covid Utterly melted his brain.
I cannot think of any pop

2314
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:46,240
culture figure who destroyed
their legacy like this. Now he

2315
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:52,540
has, he has a podcast called heb
and the goy hebengoi.com and he

2316
02:11:52,540 --> 02:11:56,320
sent me an episode, which he
actually did with the Goys wife,

2317
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,320
because the goy was off doing
something. So was he Ben the

2318
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:03,960
shiksa, and they were both
massive fans of stern, and it

2319
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:07,260
was a very interesting, good
deconstruction. And I'll give

2320
02:12:07,260 --> 02:12:11,520
you my takeaway, since we were
talking about it, I think stern

2321
02:12:11,580 --> 02:12:17,460
always wanted to be like a Leno,
or like, you know, Jimmy Kimmel.

2322
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:20,540
He wanted to be super famous. He
wanted to be with all of the

2323
02:12:20,540 --> 02:12:24,860
celebrities, and he didn't
realize that having the ragtag

2324
02:12:24,860 --> 02:12:29,180
bunch of idiots and the crew
that he had was actually the the

2325
02:12:29,240 --> 02:12:33,260
it was the beauty of the show.
And when he had the opportunity

2326
02:12:33,260 --> 02:12:36,080
and had the money, and that's
what part of that, you know,

2327
02:12:36,080 --> 02:12:39,740
that whole video that got leaked
out, he actually was trying to

2328
02:12:39,740 --> 02:12:42,340
put that together. That's why he
got all these writers, and he

2329
02:12:42,340 --> 02:12:47,080
didn't realize that that was the
appeal. And he's always been a

2330
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:52,120
coward. And then, you know,
covid, just, I agree, melted his

2331
02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:54,820
brain. And you had a, you had
part of a theory about that.

2332
02:12:54,820 --> 02:12:55,180
John,

2333
02:12:56,620 --> 02:12:59,380
John C Dvorak: yes, well, his
wife, because you've brought up,

2334
02:12:59,380 --> 02:13:02,640
we went back and forth, a little
email exchange things we do.

2335
02:13:03,660 --> 02:13:06,600
It's one of the rare things we
can we do communicate on

2336
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:12,180
occasion. And you said, Well,
his wife and I, and I looked her

2337
02:13:12,180 --> 02:13:16,680
up, and she's like, she has,
she's a cat lady, massive,

2338
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:22,340
massive cat lady. She's rescued
1000 cats, and so, so I had to

2339
02:13:22,340 --> 02:13:25,280
conclude that there's, there's
no way that the two of them

2340
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:31,220
don't have a case of
toxoplasmosis. Bing, boom, done,

2341
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:35,600
which is what you you will get
from cats. And it's this, it's a

2342
02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:39,080
disease. It's a very strange
parasite that you can get rid of

2343
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:41,680
with. I think ivermectin will
clear it up. I'm not sure the

2344
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:46,300
Oh, the irony. That would be
very ironic, yeah. But it causes

2345
02:13:46,300 --> 02:13:49,960
all kinds of anomalies, and it
also affects the way you think.

2346
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:53,800
And for example, it's known that
it probably exists in nature

2347
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:57,700
because, because mice who run
into cat feces, that's where it

2348
02:13:57,700 --> 02:14:01,860
comes from, will get
toxoplasmosis, and they begin to

2349
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:06,780
not fear cats, which makes them
easier to catch. Oh, so it's

2350
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:10,260
like a kind of a one of nature's
weird little tricks. It's

2351
02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:13,080
Adam Curry: a self destructive
virus, which is exactly what he

2352
02:14:13,080 --> 02:14:14,760
has. So,

2353
02:14:14,940 --> 02:14:18,060
John C Dvorak: so I just think
that toxoplasmosis may be in

2354
02:14:18,060 --> 02:14:21,140
play here, which because it just
seems like there's something's

2355
02:14:21,140 --> 02:14:21,620
wrong,

2356
02:14:22,460 --> 02:14:25,880
Adam Curry: yes, and so, but he
been the goy.com it's worth a

2357
02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:29,360
watch if you are a super fan and
we're disappointed they they lay

2358
02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:32,060
it all out. It's an hour and a
half. What can I say? Tina's

2359
02:14:32,060 --> 02:14:32,480
hiking.

2360
02:14:34,340 --> 02:14:36,680
John C Dvorak: Last on our list
is Linda LAPACK in Lakewood,

2361
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:41,080
Colorado. How about that? 200
bucks, and she's requesting off

2362
02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:45,100
the wall jobs karma, and she
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the producer list four more
years. Jobs,

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Unknown: jobs.

2368
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:02,640
Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's

2369
02:15:05,580 --> 02:15:08,040
Adam Curry: vote for jobs. Noah
doondadonations.com, is where

2370
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:10,440
you can support the show with
your treasure. It is value for

2371
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:14,220
value time, talent and treasure.
Help us out. Keep the show going

2372
02:15:14,220 --> 02:15:17,280
four more years, or at least
until the new year. It'd be fun

2373
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:19,860
to continue that. Thank you
again to our executive and

2374
02:15:19,860 --> 02:15:24,680
Associate Executive producers of
episode 1703 of the no agenda

2375
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:25,280
show. Our

2376
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:29,720
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out. We get people in the mouth.

2377
02:15:37,700 --> 02:15:39,080
They're eating the dogs. Shut

2378
02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:40,180
up. Shut

2379
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:49,180
Adam Curry: up. I want to you
know, of course, we've had

2380
02:15:49,180 --> 02:15:54,040
these, these horrific
hurricanes. I have a little

2381
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:59,680
follow up on what happened in
western North Carolina. Duke

2382
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,880
Energy is the big provider up
there, the same Duke Energy, who

2383
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:06,960
has left our producer, Bruce 72
in the cold, is now below

2384
02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:11,220
freezing at night in the
mountains. Is 17 days. He needs

2385
02:16:11,220 --> 02:16:14,700
some power. People. He has he
has water and he has food. So

2386
02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:19,500
he's okay, but it is. They're
not being served up there. And

2387
02:16:19,500 --> 02:16:23,900
it turns out Duke Energy is in
charge of more than just the

2388
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:28,820
electricity. They're also in
charge of a lot of the dams and

2389
02:16:28,820 --> 02:16:32,960
the lakes, and they're now being
accused of some monkey business

2390
02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:33,260
from

2391
02:16:33,259 --> 02:16:34,279
Unknown: the Catawba River in

2392
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:36,140
Charlotte. My heart is just
fractured

2393
02:16:36,799 --> 02:16:40,959
to look out shoals lake in
Claremont smells

2394
02:16:40,959 --> 02:16:44,439
like rotting fish, this sour
smelling, and it's just it's

2395
02:16:44,439 --> 02:16:45,099
hard to breathe.

2396
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:50,140
Two communities, 40 miles apart,
are connected by water. Both are

2397
02:16:50,140 --> 02:16:54,280
at the mercy of the utility that
controls it. Each shares their

2398
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:57,520
own sense of extreme loss and
anger.

2399
02:16:57,640 --> 02:17:00,480
Duke Energy fell asleep at the
wheel. But actually, they didn't

2400
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:03,060
fall asleep. They were wide
awake. They didn't do what they

2401
02:17:03,060 --> 02:17:04,260
should have done. In

2402
02:17:04,260 --> 02:17:08,040
between the two sits Lake Norman
during Helene Duke Energy

2403
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:11,460
records show the water at the
lakes directly above and below

2404
02:17:11,460 --> 02:17:15,780
Lake Norman increased well above
their licensed maximum levels,

2405
02:17:15,900 --> 02:17:20,180
increasing by roughly 12 feet
compared to the much larger Lake

2406
02:17:20,180 --> 02:17:23,840
Norman, which barely and only
briefly crested above its

2407
02:17:23,840 --> 02:17:27,800
maximum rising only about three
feet. The communities where lake

2408
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:32,060
levels rose well above maximum
levels are places where the

2409
02:17:32,060 --> 02:17:35,780
median household incomes are
much lower than the Lake Norman

2410
02:17:35,780 --> 02:17:39,560
community Duke Energy has said
the utility started moving water

2411
02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:43,180
through its 11 lake system on
the Tuesday before Helene hit

2412
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:46,480
but won't release specifics,
telling us the flooding at

2413
02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:49,540
smaller lakes like lookout
shoals and mountain Island and

2414
02:17:49,540 --> 02:17:53,260
downstream was unpreventable due
to the historic amount of

2415
02:17:53,260 --> 02:17:56,440
rainfall. In a statement, the
utility told us lakes are

2416
02:17:56,440 --> 02:18:00,360
managed as an integrated system,
not for the benefit of a single

2417
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:03,900
lake, the utility noted it
operated its lakes, including

2418
02:18:03,900 --> 02:18:07,320
Lake Norman, to reduce the
impacts of flooding for lake and

2419
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:11,820
river neighbors, upstream and
downstream, prior to during and

2420
02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:15,900
after the storm. Adding Duke
Energy is confident its hydro

2421
02:18:15,900 --> 02:18:20,040
operations team manage this
event as effectively as possible

2422
02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:23,540
to help mitigate flooding
impacts for all lake and river

2423
02:18:23,540 --> 02:18:25,100
neighbors and the public.

2424
02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:26,780
Adam Curry: Obviously, a local
report,

2425
02:18:28,219 --> 02:18:29,959
John C Dvorak: um, sounds like
AI, no,

2426
02:18:29,960 --> 02:18:34,460
Adam Curry: no. It's, it's uh,
W, n, C, W, I think you know, it

2427
02:18:34,460 --> 02:18:37,580
wouldn't surprise me, seeing as
when, when we were in Austin and

2428
02:18:37,580 --> 02:18:40,780
the snowpocalypse hit, and the
first thing I did is unplug the

2429
02:18:40,780 --> 02:18:45,100
east side of I 35 and the former
New York banker, they had power

2430
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:48,220
never went out. So, yeah, I
think it's possibly true that

2431
02:18:48,220 --> 02:18:52,360
they take care of their own over
there, boots on the ground from

2432
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:57,580
the climate Haven. We know the
climate Haven. We had a clip on

2433
02:18:57,580 --> 02:19:00,960
the last show, if you recall,
oh, it's a climate Haven. It's

2434
02:19:00,960 --> 02:19:05,040
amazing. This happened here. Our
producer says in Episode 1702,

2435
02:19:05,220 --> 02:19:07,620
you played a clip from MSNBC
that referred to the western

2436
02:19:07,620 --> 02:19:11,040
North Carolina area as a climate
Haven, credit where creditors

2437
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:14,700
do. I believe MSNBC is correct
insofar as this is exactly what

2438
02:19:14,700 --> 02:19:17,220
some people who live there,
specifically in the Asheville

2439
02:19:17,220 --> 02:19:21,080
area, believe my father, sister
and brother in law live in

2440
02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:24,320
Asheville while on vacation with
my family this past summer, my

2441
02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:27,020
brother in law, like all
insecure liberals, couldn't

2442
02:19:27,020 --> 02:19:30,800
resist steering the conversation
to politics and climate change

2443
02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:34,160
to seek some validation.
Specifically, he talked about

2444
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:37,520
how he loved Asheville, not just
for its progressive ideals of

2445
02:19:37,520 --> 02:19:42,280
microbreweries, but for how he
felt safe there from the

2446
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:46,300
climate, he actually made the
statement and quote, everywhere

2447
02:19:46,300 --> 02:19:49,180
else will be burning, but
Asheville be one of the last

2448
02:19:49,180 --> 02:19:53,020
remaining habitable places.
Meanwhile, my father recently,

2449
02:19:53,020 --> 02:19:57,160
what? Yeah. I know, yeah.
Meanwhile, my father recently

2450
02:19:57,160 --> 02:20:00,420
said to me he believes, without
evidence, that humanity. He only

2451
02:20:00,420 --> 02:20:04,440
has 30 years left to live. He's
very Oh yeah. He is very sincere

2452
02:20:04,620 --> 02:20:07,800
and clearly distressed by this
knowledge of impending doom.

2453
02:20:07,860 --> 02:20:11,640
Asheville is not good for mental
health people. All right. Thank

2454
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:13,260
you. Producer for Yeah.

2455
02:20:13,380 --> 02:20:14,880
John C Dvorak: I think he's
right, yeah,

2456
02:20:14,940 --> 02:20:20,240
Adam Curry: I agree. Well, she
Ville as a she Ville, yes. So I

2457
02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:28,340
have the NOAA prediction from
May of 2024 which I'll just

2458
02:20:28,340 --> 02:20:31,340
read. The headline, NOAA
predicts. This is from their

2459
02:20:31,340 --> 02:20:35,420
website. NOAA predicts above
normal 2024 Atlantic hurricane

2460
02:20:35,420 --> 02:20:39,680
season. Well, this was not an
Atlantic hurricane, and so far

2461
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:43,180
it's been quite low, boots on
the ground, from our producer,

2462
02:20:43,780 --> 02:20:47,560
from a home insurance product
manager, privy to some pretty

2463
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,520
solid data over the years. As
you can imagine, do we have the

2464
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:56,140
best producers in the universe?
Or what storms are not causing

2465
02:20:56,140 --> 02:20:59,200
more damage denominated in
dollars, when you adjust for

2466
02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:03,180
inflation and home values. You
played the report last show

2467
02:21:03,180 --> 02:21:06,840
admitting storms are not more
frequent, the total damage in

2468
02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:10,980
dollars is also not rising, and
it suggests pretty strongly they

2469
02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:15,180
are also not getting more deadly
or intense. Hurricane Andrew in

2470
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:20,600
1992 remains the highest dollar
cost hurricane for inflation

2471
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:24,860
adjusted however, he says fire
damage is increasing in drier

2472
02:21:24,860 --> 02:21:29,000
climates. Obviously changes in
fire management over time are a

2473
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:33,380
factor. So there you go. They're
just jacking your rates for no

2474
02:21:33,380 --> 02:21:36,860
good reason, because it's not
actually getting more expensive

2475
02:21:36,860 --> 02:21:40,300
for them. Adjusted for
inflation, yeah, they're

2476
02:21:40,300 --> 02:21:43,120
John C Dvorak: going for the
profits now that all of this, if

2477
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:46,720
you can, if you can fool them,
take the money, take the money

2478
02:21:46,720 --> 02:21:50,200
Adam Curry: and run them. All of
this, of course, does not

2479
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:54,460
change. Or why would it the
climate nut jobs in Washington

2480
02:21:54,460 --> 02:21:58,480
state for jumping on the
bandwagon. Oh, oh, we've got to

2481
02:21:58,480 --> 02:21:59,140
do more.

2482
02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:01,800
Unknown: It is difficult to
compare a hurricane with a

2483
02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:06,540
Pineapple Express, the exception
of the rain and a lot of

2484
02:22:06,780 --> 02:22:10,620
we're thinking and sending our
positive thoughts to our

2485
02:22:10,620 --> 02:22:11,880
neighbors in the southeast

2486
02:22:11,880 --> 02:22:12,540
of the country.

2487
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:16,260
It was a topic at a meeting of
UW climate scientists and state

2488
02:22:16,260 --> 02:22:19,980
leaders who authored a new
Washington climate resilience

2489
02:22:19,980 --> 02:22:24,380
strategy point to the record
Nooksack flooding of 2021 as an

2490
02:22:24,380 --> 02:22:28,400
example of how warmer weather
has increased. Rain intensity.

2491
02:22:28,580 --> 02:22:30,980
Is there a parallel there with
what we're talking about in the

2492
02:22:30,980 --> 02:22:33,860
northwest and what's happening
in the southeast there

2493
02:22:33,860 --> 02:22:37,580
is, you know, we the oceans are
getting warmer. Same thing

2494
02:22:37,580 --> 02:22:40,300
happening there. Warmer air
holds more water. Dr,

2495
02:22:40,300 --> 02:22:43,240
Crystal. Raymond is a UW
researcher who helped craft a

2496
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:46,480
national assessment of climate
change, noting that Florida has

2497
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:50,440
been dramatically impacted, but
this state has its own issues,

2498
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:53,920
laid out in the strategic
report, with a decrease in

2499
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:57,160
snowpack and a projected rise in
sea levels. It's

2500
02:22:57,160 --> 02:23:00,040
just a window into the future
when that kind of event, that

2501
02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:03,480
kind of all those catastrophic
consequences are happening more

2502
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:05,640
often right now. Ontologist

2503
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:09,300
Guillaume Moshe says Milton's
impact in the legislatively

2504
02:23:09,300 --> 02:23:13,740
mandated resilience plan shows
the need for action here, from

2505
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:17,340
aid for tribal communities to
move out of flood plains to

2506
02:23:17,340 --> 02:23:20,300
building new infrastructure.
There are suggestions to address

2507
02:23:20,300 --> 02:23:22,820
some of them in the next
legislative session.

2508
02:23:22,880 --> 02:23:25,160
I think we do have an
opportunity to steer out of the

2509
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:26,960
way and to reduce those impacts.

2510
02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:31,220
The events in Florida a reminder
that Washington has its own set

2511
02:23:31,220 --> 02:23:34,220
of climate concerns just around
the bend.

2512
02:23:35,300 --> 02:23:39,740
Adam Curry: Rather climate more
money, more money, more money.

2513
02:23:40,340 --> 02:23:45,400
Meanwhile, the Sahara Desert,
old lakes and rivers are coming

2514
02:23:45,400 --> 02:23:51,940
back to life. You seen those
pictures? No, oh, oh, it's, it's

2515
02:23:51,940 --> 02:23:52,720
outrageous.

2516
02:23:52,900 --> 02:23:56,440
John C Dvorak: It already sounds
like AI. No, no, no, no. This

2517
02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:57,700
Adam Curry: is, this is real.
Here, the

2518
02:23:57,700 --> 02:24:01,020
Unknown: Sahara, the world's
largest hot desert, has been hit

2519
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:05,280
by heavy rainfall, turning the
sand dunes into a scene of blue

2520
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:09,540
lagoons and nourishing some of
its most trot stricken regions.

2521
02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:13,140
A river that has been dry for
decades have come back to life

2522
02:24:13,140 --> 02:24:14,280
after the rainfall.

2523
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:18,660
There's even a lake that has
been dry for 50 years named Lake

2524
02:24:18,660 --> 02:24:22,820
koriki, between the Zagora and
Tata regions, so the old desert

2525
02:24:22,820 --> 02:24:24,860
lakes will come back to life.
Yes.

2526
02:24:25,220 --> 02:24:27,560
Adam Curry: So did you know that
there were desert lakes?

2527
02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:31,640
John C Dvorak: I know now, yeah.
So there was 50 years, if they

2528
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:33,920
were 50 years ago, what was
causing that

2529
02:24:34,340 --> 02:24:39,380
Adam Curry: climate change? I
don't know. You know, stinky

2530
02:24:39,380 --> 02:24:45,700
cars, horrible cars and in the
Mediterranean, I pulled this

2531
02:24:45,700 --> 02:24:53,440
clip only for the very last end.
This is a guy who's checking out

2532
02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:59,920
the underwater vegetation in the
Mediterranean.

2533
02:25:00,300 --> 02:25:03,420
Unknown: Gerwin Gretchen gets
ready for his next dive. He's

2534
02:25:03,420 --> 02:25:06,720
explored the waters in Croatia's
valsalina Bay many times

2535
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:10,560
already. The Austrian marine
biologist first started diving

2536
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:12,060
here 35 years ago.

2537
02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:14,700
I can

2538
02:25:14,700 --> 02:25:18,180
say with certainty that the
first 20 or maybe 25 years since

2539
02:25:18,180 --> 02:25:21,560
I first came here, there were
hardly any changes. But the last

2540
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:25,100
six to 10 years, there has been
an incredible amount of change.

2541
02:25:25,400 --> 02:25:27,860
Now there are changes almost
every month above

2542
02:25:27,860 --> 02:25:31,580
the water, everything is like
it's always been, blue skies,

2543
02:25:31,580 --> 02:25:35,060
crystal clear water and people
relaxing by the sea, but

2544
02:25:35,060 --> 02:25:39,320
underwater, it's clear what
Gretchen means. Until a few

2545
02:25:39,320 --> 02:25:43,360
years ago, the bay was home to
seagrass meadows, habitat for

2546
02:25:43,360 --> 02:25:47,560
hundreds of underwater species.
They're known as the lungs of

2547
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:52,840
the sea, and key to maintaining
the ecological balance today,

2548
02:25:53,140 --> 02:25:58,000
Val Selena Bay is an underwater
desert, no vegetation, no sea

2549
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:01,020
grass meadows. The marine
habitat has vanished in just a

2550
02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:04,680
few years with dramatic
consequences. Biodiversity

2551
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:08,220
loss means we humans are in
danger of suffocating in our own

2552
02:26:08,220 --> 02:26:11,760
filth because nature is no
longer able to regenerate what

2553
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:12,540
we have polluted.

2554
02:26:13,860 --> 02:26:17,100
Adam Curry: We're in danger of
suffocating in our own filth.

2555
02:26:17,580 --> 02:26:26,120
You filthy, nasty people eating
meat, whatever you're doing, you

2556
02:26:26,120 --> 02:26:31,340
know, the lat, the latest thing
in trying to stop the impact of

2557
02:26:31,940 --> 02:26:35,480
of cattle is feeding him red
seaweed

2558
02:26:37,820 --> 02:26:39,500
John C Dvorak: to reduce
poisonous stuff.

2559
02:26:39,560 --> 02:26:41,020
Adam Curry: I was it poisonous?

2560
02:26:41,380 --> 02:26:41,980
Unknown: Well, I mean, the

2561
02:26:41,980 --> 02:26:43,780
John C Dvorak: red tide is this
algae?

2562
02:26:43,960 --> 02:26:44,620
Adam Curry: Yes,

2563
02:26:44,860 --> 02:26:46,360
Unknown: I don't know red
seaweed. I

2564
02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:48,040
John C Dvorak: don't know what
red seaweed is.

2565
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:53,140
Unknown: One solution to this
turf problem could come from the

2566
02:26:53,140 --> 02:26:53,740
surf.

2567
02:26:54,760 --> 02:26:58,480
The seaweed is somewhat of the
holy grail of climate change in

2568
02:26:58,480 --> 02:27:01,440
terms of solutions from the
ocean. Dr Jen

2569
02:27:01,440 --> 02:27:05,220
Smith is researching how this
species of seaweed called

2570
02:27:05,280 --> 02:27:08,880
asparagopsis, taxi, for Miss,
can stop all that burping

2571
02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:12,660
once it is fed to the livestock.
That simply prevents methane

2572
02:27:12,660 --> 02:27:16,560
from ever being formed, and
therefore the cows don't burp

2573
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,900
that methane out of their mouth.
One study

2574
02:27:18,900 --> 02:27:21,800
found that adding just a tiny
amount of this red seaweed to a

2575
02:27:21,800 --> 02:27:25,280
cow's diet reduced its methane
emissions between 40 and 98%

2576
02:27:26,360 --> 02:27:29,900
now, Dr Smith is partnering with
an Australian company to scale

2577
02:27:29,900 --> 02:27:30,800
up production.

2578
02:27:30,980 --> 02:27:34,580
The goal is not totally produce
it. You know how to do that, but

2579
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:36,080
only do it more efficiently.

2580
02:27:36,140 --> 02:27:39,800
Steve Miller's company ch four
global makes a red seaweed based

2581
02:27:39,800 --> 02:27:43,540
feed additive called methane
tamer. It's already being fed to

2582
02:27:43,540 --> 02:27:47,020
cattle in Australia with plans
to grow it worldwide. The goal

2583
02:27:47,020 --> 02:27:50,560
is to perfect the process of
growing asparagopsis in outdoor

2584
02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:53,140
grow ponds that can be built
anywhere with access to ocean

2585
02:27:53,140 --> 02:27:53,500
water.

2586
02:27:53,620 --> 02:27:57,640
We give people the choice to
say, Do I eat that plant based

2587
02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:01,200
approach, or do I eat that meat
based approach that is now

2588
02:28:01,260 --> 02:28:02,940
dramatically lowered its carbon

2589
02:28:03,480 --> 02:28:06,960
Miller expects to see low
methane beef in US supermarkets

2590
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:08,580
by the beginning of next year.

2591
02:28:10,140 --> 02:28:12,120
Adam Curry: That doesn't sound
like the beef is going to be

2592
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:12,840
very tasty.

2593
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:20,300
John C Dvorak: Low methane beef
probably tastes like fish. Can

2594
02:28:20,300 --> 02:28:27,020
you imagine, never fry a some
beef and a cast iron skillet

2595
02:28:27,020 --> 02:28:29,480
that you cooked fish in? Oh, no,

2596
02:28:29,480 --> 02:28:30,980
Adam Curry: that's a no, no.

2597
02:28:31,760 --> 02:28:34,820
John C Dvorak: You end up with a
very the flavor is just not

2598
02:28:34,820 --> 02:28:36,980
ruined. With something you
ruined, it's ruined,

2599
02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:38,300
Adam Curry: ruined, ruin that

2600
02:28:38,300 --> 02:28:40,720
John C Dvorak: can be fixed. How
about playing this? Then are you

2601
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:42,760
gonna talk about beef? Let's
talk about bird flu.

2602
02:28:42,940 --> 02:28:44,500
Adam Curry: Oh, we're back.

2603
02:28:44,620 --> 02:28:47,740
Unknown: Avian influenzas was
first detected in California's

2604
02:28:47,740 --> 02:28:50,560
dairy cattle a little born then
a month ago, and now it's been

2605
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:53,920
confirmed to more than 80 of the
state's dairy herds and in three

2606
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:58,000
dairy workers. Kerry Klein from
member station kvpr has more

2607
02:28:58,000 --> 02:28:58,420
dairy

2608
02:28:58,420 --> 02:29:01,860
workers are being equipped with
more PPE like face shields and

2609
02:29:01,860 --> 02:29:04,980
disposable booties, farms are
also restricting people and

2610
02:29:04,980 --> 02:29:08,580
vehicles on site. Trisha Steve
or Blatt LARP is with the Farm

2611
02:29:08,580 --> 02:29:11,820
Bureau in Tulare County, the
country's largest milk producer.

2612
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:14,880
She says the costs of these
precautions are trickling down

2613
02:29:14,940 --> 02:29:19,020
beyond farms. She cites a cattle
hauler whose job is to transport

2614
02:29:19,020 --> 02:29:21,380
the livestock from place to
place. He's

2615
02:29:21,380 --> 02:29:26,240
currently seeing two thirds less
income for his employees, the

2616
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:29,360
drivers, and yet he still has
all that overhead and payroll

2617
02:29:29,360 --> 02:29:30,620
that he's trying to meet.

2618
02:29:30,860 --> 02:29:33,800
Another hit to California's
dairy industry. Even those

2619
02:29:33,800 --> 02:29:37,340
cattle that fully recover from
the virus may produce less milk.

2620
02:29:39,740 --> 02:29:44,860
Adam Curry: Can't win. Now this
is also stupid. They're just

2621
02:29:44,860 --> 02:29:50,140
filling air time at this point.
There was an interesting twist

2622
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:55,900
to the Tick Tock saga, which is
ongoing, which what

2623
02:29:55,900 --> 02:29:57,820
John C Dvorak: saga we
discussing? Well,

2624
02:29:58,240 --> 02:30:02,820
Adam Curry: of course, we still
have. Uh, they have a deadline

2625
02:30:02,820 --> 02:30:06,420
coming up, I think when they
have January, yeah, yeah. So

2626
02:30:06,420 --> 02:30:09,240
there's deadline coming up where
they have to sell to an American

2627
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:14,220
entity. At the same time, 14,
uh, attorney generals in 14

2628
02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:19,080
different states are suing them
over harming children. And now

2629
02:30:19,080 --> 02:30:24,080
some documents were not properly
redacted, and CBS got a hold of

2630
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:25,520
him. Tiktok

2631
02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:29,060
Unknown: executives knew how
damaging their app was to young

2632
02:30:29,060 --> 02:30:32,000
users, according to legal
documents, we were never

2633
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:35,960
supposed to see CBS. Jo Ling
Kent reports tonight on these

2634
02:30:35,960 --> 02:30:40,900
secret internal communications,
just days after multiple states

2635
02:30:40,900 --> 02:30:44,320
sued Tiktok for allegedly
designing the app to addict

2636
02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:48,040
children. New details have
emerged about how they say the

2637
02:30:48,040 --> 02:30:52,060
company does it in this lawsuit
filed by the state of Kentucky,

2638
02:30:52,180 --> 02:30:55,840
sections of the complaint were
not properly redacted, as first

2639
02:30:55,840 --> 02:30:59,800
reported by Kentucky Public
Radio and NPR. Kentucky's

2640
02:30:59,800 --> 02:31:03,360
lawsuit claims Tiktok knows all
it takes to hook. An average

2641
02:31:03,360 --> 02:31:08,880
user is viewing 260 videos as
short as eight seconds, thus in

2642
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:10,380
under 35 minutes.

2643
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:13,800
John C Dvorak: What was that
number? Listen

2644
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:15,000
Adam Curry: again. He's lawsuit

2645
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:18,600
Unknown: claims Tiktok knows all
it takes to hook an average user

2646
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:23,960
is viewing 260 videos as short
as eight seconds, thus, in under

2647
02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:28,460
35 minutes, an average user is
likely to become addicted to the

2648
02:31:28,460 --> 02:31:29,300
platform.

2649
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:30,500
Adam Curry: How about that?

2650
02:31:31,100 --> 02:31:35,240
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute.
Very few eight without

2651
02:31:35,240 --> 02:31:39,200
calculation was based on eight,
all videos being eight seconds.

2652
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:43,420
No, no, no. People to get to 35
minutes at 260 Yes,

2653
02:31:43,420 --> 02:31:45,700
Adam Curry: but I think people
typically look at a video and

2654
02:31:45,700 --> 02:31:48,340
after eight seconds, they swipe
up to the next one. I think

2655
02:31:48,340 --> 02:31:50,260
that's what they're talking
about. I

2656
02:31:50,260 --> 02:31:54,100
John C Dvorak: don't think so.
Hey, I didn't say that. You just

2657
02:31:54,100 --> 02:31:55,780
made it up. No,

2658
02:31:55,780 --> 02:32:00,660
Adam Curry: I'm interpreting the
CBS News report. I'm not making

2659
02:32:00,660 --> 02:32:01,980
anything up, and

2660
02:32:01,980 --> 02:32:05,040
Unknown: a feature designed to
encourage teens to take a break

2661
02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:09,000
after 60 minutes on the app,
quote does not actually impose a

2662
02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:13,680
screen time limit. Instead, its
goal improving public trust via

2663
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:18,060
media coverage, Tiktok allegedly
knew its time management tools

2664
02:32:18,060 --> 02:32:21,200
reduced usage by only 90
seconds.

2665
02:32:21,260 --> 02:32:23,120
Adam Curry: Here's the thing, I
don't believe that they're

2666
02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:25,520
hooking teenagers. I think
they're hooking full blown

2667
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:28,100
adults, because that's all I
see.

2668
02:32:28,580 --> 02:32:31,880
John C Dvorak: Okay, I watch
tick tock videos, yeah,

2669
02:32:31,880 --> 02:32:34,220
Adam Curry: but not a whole
watch. You don't end of a maybe

2670
02:32:34,220 --> 02:32:36,140
you don't, you don't use the
app.

2671
02:32:36,740 --> 02:32:38,900
John C Dvorak: No, of course, I
don't know, but I want that. I

2672
02:32:38,900 --> 02:32:43,120
don't hold on a second big what
would I use the app on? No,

2673
02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:46,240
Adam Curry: I know. Yes, we know
you're the best. John C Dvorak,

2674
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:47,140
I have no, I

2675
02:32:47,440 --> 02:32:49,780
John C Dvorak: got no saying
I'm, I'm reason. I'm a

2676
02:32:49,780 --> 02:32:54,100
reasonable person. I guess I've
seen the light. I know where the

2677
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:55,900
phones belong, yes,

2678
02:32:56,140 --> 02:33:00,360
Adam Curry: but I'm, what I'm
saying is, this is the app that

2679
02:33:00,360 --> 02:33:06,360
is designed to keep you engaged,
and if you don't swipe up, it

2680
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:10,620
swipes up automatically. This.
None of this happens on your on

2681
02:33:10,620 --> 02:33:14,700
the website, so you are not
going to become addicted.

2682
02:33:15,420 --> 02:33:16,440
Although,

2683
02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:21,920
John C Dvorak: of watching 260
videos, that's a lot. I don't

2684
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:24,560
think I've watched totally, and
we've been doing the show, and

2685
02:33:24,680 --> 02:33:28,220
I've been using tick tock videos
now for a couple of years. I

2686
02:33:28,220 --> 02:33:29,720
still don't think I've gotten to
260

2687
02:33:31,040 --> 02:33:34,280
Adam Curry: No, but you're
you're not the target market.

2688
02:33:34,280 --> 02:33:37,280
They're not trying to addict
you. That guy's gonna addict

2689
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:40,660
everybody. That guy's hopeless.
No, you're on a web browser.

2690
02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:44,260
You're no good. You're no good
as a follow up. It's really

2691
02:33:44,260 --> 02:33:47,740
Unknown: frustrating to know
that Tiktok had information

2692
02:33:47,980 --> 02:33:51,340
internally from their own
research that suggested that

2693
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:55,780
their app was causing harm in
particular ways, and that they

2694
02:33:55,780 --> 02:33:58,000
chose not to act on that
information.

2695
02:33:58,060 --> 02:33:58,600
No

2696
02:33:58,660 --> 02:34:01,080
the Kentucky complaint has since
I mean, they

2697
02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:06,720
John C Dvorak: chose not. Let's,
let's back up to the early days

2698
02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:11,940
of the Internet and these news
organizations that I because I

2699
02:34:11,940 --> 02:34:15,240
wrote for a number of them. And
you write for these guys and you

2700
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:18,180
say, Well, I'm doing an article
that this would be, I could name

2701
02:34:18,180 --> 02:34:21,860
names, but just all of them were
this way, all of them, you'd

2702
02:34:21,860 --> 02:34:24,980
write something and say, Where's
this? You put a link in there,

2703
02:34:24,980 --> 02:34:28,040
because you're trying to explain
something, and, you know, boom,

2704
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:31,940
you put a link. No, you can't
you. You can't do that. You

2705
02:34:31,940 --> 02:34:34,520
can't link out of the site,
because if people link out of

2706
02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:37,640
the site, then they're not going
to come back, which is no,

2707
02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:41,860
factually incorrect. It's
factually incorrect, but that's

2708
02:34:41,860 --> 02:34:44,920
what everyone thought. And so
you couldn't link out Forbes

2709
02:34:44,920 --> 02:34:48,220
magazine, was one of them, and
you couldn't. No, no, no, Mom,

2710
02:34:48,220 --> 02:34:51,460
no, no, no, no, you don't. No,
no, no. You got to keep them on

2711
02:34:51,460 --> 02:34:54,700
the site. So they want to keep
them on the site. I mean, this

2712
02:34:54,700 --> 02:34:58,060
was there was You're right. They
were wrong about the about their

2713
02:34:58,060 --> 02:35:01,860
analysis, but how is. That
different than wanting to keep

2714
02:35:01,860 --> 02:35:06,600
you on the site. Every news
organization and Tiktok wanting

2715
02:35:06,600 --> 02:35:10,140
to keep you on the site, tell me
exactly what the difference is.

2716
02:35:12,360 --> 02:35:13,800
Adam Curry: I have no words.

2717
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:17,760
John C Dvorak: No, I just asked.
Yes. No,

2718
02:35:17,820 --> 02:35:20,220
Adam Curry: this is no
different. It's no different.

2719
02:35:20,700 --> 02:35:24,020
But apps are totally intended to
keep you in the app

2720
02:35:24,020 --> 02:35:26,240
continuously. That's,

2721
02:35:26,300 --> 02:35:27,980
John C Dvorak: again, well,
there's

2722
02:35:28,040 --> 02:35:32,720
Adam Curry: the difference is.
The difference is the app is

2723
02:35:32,780 --> 02:35:37,880
doing a lot more than a website.
The website has a cookie, but

2724
02:35:37,880 --> 02:35:41,620
the app knows if you're walking,
if you're laying down, it, you

2725
02:35:41,620 --> 02:35:44,560
know it may be listening. I mean
all the EULA stuff that you

2726
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:45,460
approved Yes,

2727
02:35:45,460 --> 02:35:47,500
John C Dvorak: using your
contact list and opening the

2728
02:35:47,500 --> 02:35:50,020
camera Yes, exactly. The
Kentucky

2729
02:35:50,020 --> 02:35:52,840
Unknown: complaint has since
been resealed and the Attorney

2730
02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:56,800
General declined our request for
an interview in a statement,

2731
02:35:56,800 --> 02:36:00,720
Tiktok called NPR highly
irresponsible for publishing

2732
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:04,860
this information, adding the
lawsuit cherry picks misleading

2733
02:36:04,860 --> 02:36:08,940
quotes and takes outdated
documents out of context to

2734
02:36:08,940 --> 02:36:13,680
misrepresent our commitment to
community safety. The Kentucky

2735
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:17,880
lawsuit also alleges Tiktok own
research found that compulsive

2736
02:36:17,880 --> 02:36:21,260
usage correlates with a slew of
negative mental health effects

2737
02:36:21,440 --> 02:36:24,920
like loss of analytical skills,
memory formation, contextual

2738
02:36:24,920 --> 02:36:29,900
thinking, conversational depth,
empathy and increased anxiety. I

2739
02:36:29,900 --> 02:36:32,960
John C Dvorak: believe that,
well, you have to go

2740
02:36:32,960 --> 02:36:36,380
empirically. Yes, it seems to be
something's causing what you

2741
02:36:36,440 --> 02:36:40,660
what that description that those
symptoms are caused by

2742
02:36:40,660 --> 02:36:41,560
something. Let's

2743
02:36:41,560 --> 02:36:43,360
Adam Curry: listen to that list
again. The

2744
02:36:43,360 --> 02:36:46,840
Unknown: Kentucky lawsuit also
alleges Tiktok own research

2745
02:36:46,840 --> 02:36:50,080
found that compulsive usage
correlates with a slew of

2746
02:36:50,080 --> 02:36:53,380
negative mental health effects,
like loss of analytical skills,

2747
02:36:53,380 --> 02:36:57,220
memory formation, contextual
thinking, conversational depth,

2748
02:36:57,460 --> 02:36:59,980
empathy and increased anxiety.

2749
02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:04,680
Adam Curry: Let's put this to
the test with a with a man on

2750
02:37:04,680 --> 02:37:10,080
the street piece that France 24
did as and this is, this is

2751
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:13,200
real. This is really
interesting. They couldn't find

2752
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:19,020
bigger idiots than these people.
They did a report over the

2753
02:37:19,020 --> 02:37:24,560
influence of AI and deep fakes,
how it looms large over the US

2754
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:29,960
presidential race. So they, so
they, they play one, you know,

2755
02:37:29,960 --> 02:37:34,520
the Mr. Reagan, he does a lot of
these parody ads and stuff.

2756
02:37:34,520 --> 02:37:34,700
Yeah,

2757
02:37:34,700 --> 02:37:37,040
John C Dvorak: he's got somebody
working in his organization

2758
02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:40,220
that's putting together good, a
lot of AI stuff.

2759
02:37:40,220 --> 02:37:43,720
Adam Curry: And he even puts on
them parody. I mean, I've seen

2760
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:47,440
it run down, says parody. So
they take one of these, don't

2761
02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:51,940
tell people, is parody, and they
go out to Washington, DC and

2762
02:37:51,940 --> 02:37:55,960
show this to people. And these
are people, tourists in DC, who

2763
02:37:55,960 --> 02:38:00,300
are kind of mulling around
outside the White House. Listen

2764
02:38:00,300 --> 02:38:00,720
to this.

2765
02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:04,380
Unknown: This campaign app,
posted by Elon Musk, has over

2766
02:38:04,380 --> 02:38:09,720
136 million views, but it's
actually a fake made with

2767
02:38:09,720 --> 02:38:11,280
artificial intelligence.

2768
02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:16,260
So if you criticize anything I
say you're both sexist and

2769
02:38:16,260 --> 02:38:19,920
racist. Joe taught me rule
number one, carefully hide your

2770
02:38:19,920 --> 02:38:20,280
toes.

2771
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:26,600
It perfectly captures Kamala
Harris's voice and likeness. But

2772
02:38:26,600 --> 02:38:30,140
Musk failed to clarify that the
video was fake when he shared it

2773
02:38:30,140 --> 02:38:35,060
on his social media platform X,
he simply says, This is amazing.

2774
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:39,860
The YouTuber Mr. Reagan, created
the video and posted it on his

2775
02:38:39,860 --> 02:38:43,420
channel. The fervent Trump
supporter claims the videos are

2776
02:38:43,420 --> 02:38:46,420
parodies and are not meant to be
taken seriously. At the

2777
02:38:47,440 --> 02:38:50,620
end of the day, everybody who's
complaining that this is

2778
02:38:50,620 --> 02:38:53,380
indistinguishable from real life
and people are going to be

2779
02:38:53,380 --> 02:38:55,960
tricked. Either have are

2780
02:38:55,960 --> 02:38:58,480
Adam Curry: very low IQ
themselves, or who are watching

2781
02:38:58,480 --> 02:38:59,740
too much Tiktok have very

2782
02:38:59,740 --> 02:39:03,060
Unknown: little faith in people
to be a little bit skeptical.

2783
02:39:05,160 --> 02:39:08,220
But is it so easy to determine
that the videos are

2784
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:11,040
Adam Curry: fake? Now listen
carefully to the three subjects

2785
02:39:11,040 --> 02:39:13,440
they've chosen for this report.
We

2786
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:15,780
Unknown: asked Americans if they
could tell the difference.

2787
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:24,200
What do you think she sure knew
a lot of information about being

2788
02:39:24,260 --> 02:39:28,640
someone being senile, and didn't
come forward straight away.

2789
02:39:28,700 --> 02:39:29,840
This is a fake video.

2790
02:39:29,960 --> 02:39:34,040
Are you able to spot it right
away? I'm not. It might be my

2791
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:35,300
age. Somebody used

2792
02:39:35,300 --> 02:39:36,320
her voice. And

2793
02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:38,180
what about you?

2794
02:39:38,900 --> 02:39:40,040
Yeah, I think that's all.

2795
02:39:40,880 --> 02:39:44,620
I don't know what they're trying
to are they advertise. Can't

2796
02:39:44,620 --> 02:39:49,540
really tell whether the news
clip or video clip is for them

2797
02:39:49,540 --> 02:39:50,560
or against them. The

2798
02:39:50,680 --> 02:39:55,900
video clearly causes confusion.
What? And it's not the only AI

2799
02:39:55,900 --> 02:39:58,660
content duping social media
users

2800
02:39:58,720 --> 02:40:01,440
Adam Curry: so they get an old
lady. Who says, I'm not too

2801
02:40:01,440 --> 02:40:05,040
sure. Maybe it's my age. They
get two people who say it's

2802
02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:10,980
fake, and then some whack job
gay guy who's like, just put me

2803
02:40:10,980 --> 02:40:14,820
on here. And then she says,
clearly, it confuses everybody,

2804
02:40:15,540 --> 02:40:22,100
this is bull crap. It's total
what horse crap this is, yeah,

2805
02:40:22,220 --> 02:40:24,260
John C Dvorak: yeah. I'm
surprised you played it, because

2806
02:40:24,260 --> 02:40:28,520
it doesn't back up your basic
thesis. Well, to to

2807
02:40:29,540 --> 02:40:32,900
Adam Curry: to complete the
segment. Thank you. Producer,

2808
02:40:32,900 --> 02:40:37,160
anonymous, Hi, Adam. Just for
your personal enjoyment, I spend

2809
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:41,920
some of my free time on outlier.
Ai, it's a platform that pays

2810
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:47,020
humans to train AI. I found I
received the best feedback from

2811
02:40:47,020 --> 02:40:50,680
my human reviewers on my
training of the AI when I use

2812
02:40:50,680 --> 02:40:58,120
Gemini AI to assist my training.
Entropy at its finest. I love

2813
02:40:58,120 --> 02:41:00,220
that training.

2814
02:41:00,220 --> 02:41:02,160
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's it's
definitely headed in that

2815
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:04,860
Adam Curry: direction. It is, it
is. It can't happen fast enough.

2816
02:41:04,860 --> 02:41:05,160
I'm

2817
02:41:05,160 --> 02:41:07,920
John C Dvorak: very It won't
happen as fast as you hope. No,

2818
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:08,040
I

2819
02:41:08,040 --> 02:41:09,900
Adam Curry: know, but I but a
girl can dream.

2820
02:41:11,460 --> 02:41:14,160
John C Dvorak: So at least this
field, what can I do? One

2821
02:41:14,160 --> 02:41:16,560
international news story, so we
get it out of the way. You can

2822
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,080
do whatever you want. You can
do. Let's do Israel versus

2823
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:21,800
Macron. I just think this has
been going on for a while. We

2824
02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:23,180
haven't played these clips yet.
You're

2825
02:41:23,180 --> 02:41:25,460
Unknown: right. Powerful new
explosions rocked Beirut's

2826
02:41:25,460 --> 02:41:28,700
southern suburbs tonight, as
Israel expands its bombardment

2827
02:41:28,700 --> 02:41:31,760
of the Hezbollah and Hamas
militant groups in Lebanon

2828
02:41:32,180 --> 02:41:35,600
earlier, Israel struck a
Palestinian refugee camp in the

2829
02:41:35,600 --> 02:41:38,840
North for the first time,
killing a Hamas commander. 1000s

2830
02:41:38,840 --> 02:41:42,160
of people in Lebanon continue to
flee the widening conflict in

2831
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:45,640
the region. Palestinians along a
key corridor there are facing

2832
02:41:45,640 --> 02:41:49,900
new Israeli evacuation orders as
air strikes continue. Meanwhile,

2833
02:41:49,900 --> 02:41:54,100
French President Emmanuel Macron
is calling for a halt to arms

2834
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:58,660
deliveries to Israel for its war
in Gaza and pierce Eleanor

2835
02:41:58,660 --> 02:42:02,340
Beardsley reports, Macron says
Lebanon can't become a new Gaza.

2836
02:42:03,660 --> 02:42:04,680
In

2837
02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:09,660
an interview on French radio,
Macron said a political solution

2838
02:42:09,660 --> 02:42:13,800
is the only way to bring peace.
Macrons appeal comes as Israel

2839
02:42:13,800 --> 02:42:17,460
intensifies its invasion of
Lebanon, as it tries to weaken

2840
02:42:17,460 --> 02:42:21,440
Hezbollah Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu quickly

2841
02:42:21,440 --> 02:42:25,220
responded, bristling at macron's
comments. Today,

2842
02:42:25,460 --> 02:42:29,240
Israel is defending itself on
seven fronts against the enemies

2843
02:42:29,240 --> 02:42:32,960
of civilization. Yeah.

2844
02:42:33,680 --> 02:42:36,860
John C Dvorak: Well, what caught
my attention on that one was

2845
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:42,700
what Netanyahu said, Seven. I'll
ask you, what are the seven

2846
02:42:42,760 --> 02:42:43,480
fronts?

2847
02:42:43,900 --> 02:42:50,020
Adam Curry: Let me see, we have
Gaza, we have Syria,

2848
02:42:51,100 --> 02:42:53,860
John C Dvorak: we have who?
Well, wait, wait, that's not a

2849
02:42:53,860 --> 02:42:56,140
front the Golan Heights.

2850
02:42:59,020 --> 02:43:02,400
Adam Curry: I think I thought
that's Lebanon, no, no. Lebanon,

2851
02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:02,580
okay,

2852
02:43:02,580 --> 02:43:04,980
John C Dvorak: well, let's Well,
I just put up say, Okay, you

2853
02:43:04,980 --> 02:43:05,460
give me love.

2854
02:43:05,460 --> 02:43:07,800
Adam Curry: You give me two. I'm
giving you later two. Okay,

2855
02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:20,480
Lebanon, three. Oh, Houthis,
four, four. I it's not a front,

2856
02:43:20,480 --> 02:43:22,760
but you're gonna have to give
him Iran, because they are

2857
02:43:22,760 --> 02:43:28,880
shooting the rockets. Five,
five. Canada, Canada is six.

2858
02:43:29,900 --> 02:43:30,380
Yeah,

2859
02:43:32,180 --> 02:43:34,040
John C Dvorak: find me two more
Brazil.

2860
02:43:36,320 --> 02:43:37,700
Adam Curry: I'm let me think.

2861
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:43,360
John C Dvorak: What's he saying
when he says seven fronts this

2862
02:43:43,360 --> 02:43:46,900
Adam Curry: bullcrap was Yemen
is does Yemen count? Or is that

2863
02:43:46,900 --> 02:43:53,020
now, Houthis, the Houthis West
Bank? No, not really. Jordan,

2864
02:43:53,020 --> 02:43:55,120
Jordan, of Jordan's piece? No,
of course,

2865
02:43:55,540 --> 02:43:58,120
John C Dvorak: they're buddies.
Egypt's the same way.

2866
02:43:58,480 --> 02:44:01,800
Adam Curry: Kyiv, Ukraine. I
mean, I'm out. I'm out. I don't

2867
02:44:01,800 --> 02:44:02,100
know.

2868
02:44:02,520 --> 02:44:04,800
John C Dvorak: I gave you two
extra ones. I mean, come on.

2869
02:44:04,860 --> 02:44:05,520
Very good,

2870
02:44:05,700 --> 02:44:09,060
Adam Curry: very good question.
I do not know. Maybe because

2871
02:44:09,060 --> 02:44:12,600
America controls Israel, maybe
he's just talking like an

2872
02:44:12,600 --> 02:44:13,260
American,

2873
02:44:13,980 --> 02:44:18,540
John C Dvorak: it's need a
Kamala, exactly. And Biden,

2874
02:44:18,540 --> 02:44:21,060
that'd be the seven boom. And

2875
02:44:21,060 --> 02:44:24,740
Adam Curry: Biden, there's your
other fronts.

2876
02:44:26,180 --> 02:44:27,380
John C Dvorak: Okay, part two of
that clip,

2877
02:44:27,680 --> 02:44:31,040
Unknown: he included the
occupied West Bank captured by

2878
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:36,080
Israel in 1967 as one of those
fronts. Netanyahu said all

2879
02:44:36,080 --> 02:44:39,140
civilized countries should be
standing with Israel. His

2880
02:44:39,140 --> 02:44:42,160
message to Macron, shame on you.
It's

2881
02:44:42,160 --> 02:44:44,500
Adam Curry: getting a little
hard when you hear this

2882
02:44:44,560 --> 02:44:48,280
particular construction or
deconstruction of the Israeli

2883
02:44:48,340 --> 02:44:50,380
plan about Gaza London. Let's

2884
02:44:50,380 --> 02:44:52,900
Unknown: bring in Aaron
breckman, the senior teaching

2885
02:44:52,900 --> 02:44:55,600
fellow at the Department of War
studies at King's College

2886
02:44:55,660 --> 02:44:58,180
London. Great to have you on the
program this evening. Great to

2887
02:44:58,180 --> 02:45:00,720
talk to you, Aaron. First of
all, I know you are. Former IDF

2888
02:45:00,720 --> 02:45:02,880
soldier as well. I think you
served, am I right to say back

2889
02:45:02,880 --> 02:45:07,560
in 1982 in the Lebanon conflict?
So your context and analysis

2890
02:45:07,560 --> 02:45:11,280
very important this evening.
Just give me your understanding

2891
02:45:11,280 --> 02:45:14,160
of what's going on in the north
of Gaza right now.

2892
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:19,140
What the Israelis are trying to
do in the northern part of the

2893
02:45:19,140 --> 02:45:26,000
Gaza Strip is to empty it,
basically to send the citizens

2894
02:45:26,300 --> 02:45:31,640
who are there. We are talking
about 350,000 to 400,000 to the

2895
02:45:31,640 --> 02:45:37,340
south. It is a straightforward
ethnic cleansing. The aim, say

2896
02:45:37,340 --> 02:45:42,460
the Israelis, is to separate
between the good guys and the

2897
02:45:42,460 --> 02:45:50,020
5000 bad guys, the Hamas
combatants or terrorists and so.

2898
02:45:50,020 --> 02:45:55,960
So this is what they are doing,
trying to push the citizens of

2899
02:45:56,620 --> 02:46:01,560
Gallia, in all this area, to the
south in order to fight against

2900
02:46:01,680 --> 02:46:05,220
in the people of Hamas last year
there. Yeah. So

2901
02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:07,260
Adam Curry: send all the
civilians down south, 350,000

2902
02:46:08,760 --> 02:46:11,820
and then bomb the 5000 gun. They
got to be terrorists. They got

2903
02:46:11,820 --> 02:46:15,600
to be they got to be the bad
guys. I, you know, someone sent

2904
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:19,020
me a a new interview with
Michael Hudson. You know, we've

2905
02:46:19,020 --> 02:46:22,400
played the clips of him before.
Don't remember? Yeah, he's the

2906
02:46:22,400 --> 02:46:26,120
economist, and he was in, he was
in the war college, and did a

2907
02:46:26,120 --> 02:46:29,300
lot of consulting for Brzezinski
and all those guys back in the

2908
02:46:29,300 --> 02:46:32,600
day. And he has this, I'm gonna
clip it for Thursday. He has a

2909
02:46:32,600 --> 02:46:37,400
very interesting analysis of how
the US, since we can't really,

2910
02:46:37,700 --> 02:46:42,640
you know, we don't, you can't
reinstitute a draft in America,

2911
02:46:42,700 --> 02:46:44,980
people will revolt. You can't
get elected if you say, oh,

2912
02:46:44,980 --> 02:46:48,700
let's have a draft. No one's
going to elect you as president

2913
02:46:48,940 --> 02:46:50,080
or or any representative.

2914
02:46:51,880 --> 02:46:54,460
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just have
to up the ante for volunteers,

2915
02:46:54,460 --> 02:46:54,880
right? You

2916
02:46:54,880 --> 02:46:57,640
Adam Curry: can't use nukes
because that's mutually assured

2917
02:46:57,640 --> 02:47:02,460
destruction. But we still have
this, this neocon, maybe

2918
02:47:02,460 --> 02:47:06,120
neoliberal. We need to go after
the oil. We want all the re we

2919
02:47:06,120 --> 02:47:09,000
want all the resources. It's
still the same a holes who want

2920
02:47:09,000 --> 02:47:13,560
all the resources. So Israel is
perfect, because they will

2921
02:47:13,560 --> 02:47:17,400
fight, and, you know, they fight
ideologically. They like, you

2922
02:47:17,400 --> 02:47:20,240
know, we hate these guys. We'll
go kill them, and some of us

2923
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:22,820
that will get killed, and it
comes, just comes down to

2924
02:47:22,820 --> 02:47:28,220
terrorism, basically, and that
the Israelis are stooge and we

2925
02:47:28,220 --> 02:47:29,300
send them everywhere,

2926
02:47:30,620 --> 02:47:31,940
John C Dvorak: or stooge? Yeah,

2927
02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:35,060
Adam Curry: I know half of the
audience, like, No man, the Jews

2928
02:47:35,060 --> 02:47:36,200
control everything.

2929
02:47:37,340 --> 02:47:39,140
Unknown: Senator, okay,

2930
02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:41,800
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine. Of
course,

2931
02:47:42,520 --> 02:47:45,400
John C Dvorak: it's actually not
them. Most of the audience that

2932
02:47:45,400 --> 02:47:50,560
thinks that way. They really
don't like our show. I'm

2933
02:47:50,560 --> 02:47:53,740
Unknown: gonna show my salad by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2934
02:47:53,740 --> 02:47:55,900
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab in

2935
02:47:55,900 --> 02:47:56,380
the morning.

2936
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:06,780
Adam Curry: People who do like
our show go to no agenda

2937
02:48:06,780 --> 02:48:12,780
donations.com and support us. We
love the supporting, sustaining

2938
02:48:12,780 --> 02:48:18,300
donations, which are incredibly
appreciated any amount, any

2939
02:48:18,300 --> 02:48:21,560
frequency, whatever you want to
do, you heard Eli the coffee

2940
02:48:21,560 --> 02:48:24,440
guys, I think it was, I wasn't a
different guy who was it said

2941
02:48:24,440 --> 02:48:30,740
$3.33 one of our was that one of
our previous donors who said,

2942
02:48:30,740 --> 02:48:35,840
yeah, and but you know, we will
thank anybody who comes in over

2943
02:48:35,840 --> 02:48:38,180
50. And under 50 is not
mentioned for reasons of

2944
02:48:38,180 --> 02:48:40,600
anonymity. So you will never
mention your name there for

2945
02:48:40,600 --> 02:48:43,840
certain. John, take us through
those 50s. One thing I will,

2946
02:48:43,900 --> 02:48:48,040
John C Dvorak: yeah, starting
with Greg hoy boy. He's in

2947
02:48:48,040 --> 02:48:53,440
Pacifica, over here on the
coast. It's $133.33 I'm sure

2948
02:48:53,440 --> 02:48:56,920
it's cold today, and already we
don't have to. We got a total of

2949
02:48:56,920 --> 02:49:01,080
15 people here, so we're very
light today. Kevin McLaughlin in

2950
02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:04,140
Concord, North thank God for the
Commodores always there. Kevin

2951
02:49:04,140 --> 02:49:07,740
McLaughlin in Concord, North
Carolina, 808 he is the Archduke

2952
02:49:07,740 --> 02:49:11,280
of Luna, lover of America and
boobs, sir herb lamb. I haven't

2953
02:49:11,280 --> 02:49:16,140
heard from him for a while. 808,
he's in Sugar Hill, Georgia.

2954
02:49:16,980 --> 02:49:21,740
He's the Duke of the Deep South.
He is and he has not been, you

2955
02:49:21,740 --> 02:49:26,660
know, hello, hello. Anonymous in
peach land, BC, Canada, 6969

2956
02:49:28,280 --> 02:49:34,220
Christopher dector, 5678 uh.
Mark Hardwick in alido, Texas.

2957
02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:41,140
5333 sir economic hitman in
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2958
02:49:41,140 --> 02:49:44,440
got the $50 donors already,
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2959
02:49:44,440 --> 02:49:48,760
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in Athens, Georgia. Tom del

2960
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2961
02:49:53,200 --> 02:49:58,480
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2962
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Dakota. Uh. Brandon Savoy in
Port orchard, Washington, Jared

2963
02:50:04,920 --> 02:50:10,860
ya in Nashville, Tennessee. And
last on our list, the great Dame

2964
02:50:10,860 --> 02:50:14,460
Patricia Worthington in Miami
Beach, or actually, Miami,

2965
02:50:14,460 --> 02:50:17,880
Florida. Want to thank these
people for making show 1703

2966
02:50:19,260 --> 02:50:21,060
Unknown: reality. And of course,
again, thank

2967
02:50:21,060 --> 02:50:23,360
Adam Curry: you very much to our
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2968
02:50:23,360 --> 02:50:25,940
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2972
02:50:41,380 --> 02:50:44,740
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2973
02:50:44,740 --> 02:50:48,640
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02:50:48,640 --> 02:50:52,900
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2975
02:50:52,960 --> 02:50:56,320
All right, now, time to welcome
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2976
02:50:56,320 --> 02:50:59,020
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it before we get to our two
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2984
02:51:32,480 --> 02:51:38,600
Sabah. Sabah. Sabah donated
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2985
02:51:38,600 --> 02:51:42,460
never got a shout out. So we're
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2986
02:51:42,460 --> 02:51:45,520
making good now. I guess it's
for your dad, and we have a

2987
02:51:45,520 --> 02:51:50,440
layaway night. Eric Newman who
says, I've committed the offense

2988
02:51:50,440 --> 02:51:55,420
of desert desertion. So after
spending all day in temple

2989
02:51:55,420 --> 02:51:59,020
atoning for my sins, I see
humble forgiveness. No problem.

2990
02:51:59,380 --> 02:52:04,980
I'd left in 27 due to media
hatred overload and TDs Trump

2991
02:52:04,980 --> 02:52:08,880
derangement syndrome, I was also
working in the media industry at

2992
02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:13,140
the time. Ah, that explains it,
between the craziness both

2993
02:52:13,140 --> 02:52:15,780
inside and outside their
buildings, I had to detach

2994
02:52:15,780 --> 02:52:21,200
entirely from news and politics
for seven years, that is, until

2995
02:52:21,200 --> 02:52:25,580
the Trump Biden debate, my no
agenda, media deconstruction and

2996
02:52:25,580 --> 02:52:28,760
critical thinking skills allowed
me to survive in the interim.

2997
02:52:28,820 --> 02:52:31,520
However, after watching the
debate, I knew it was time to go

2998
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:34,700
back to the podcast where
everybody knows my name, sir

2999
02:52:34,700 --> 02:52:39,620
Newman, Knight of the gentrified
Brooklyn. Okay? And then he

3000
02:52:39,740 --> 02:52:42,580
says, I can skip as much as I
want of this. But apparently

3001
02:52:42,580 --> 02:52:45,100
he's been living in Brooklyn,
where he says there's a lot of

3002
02:52:45,100 --> 02:52:49,720
communists. Okay, he grew up in
South Florida. Oh, he does say

3003
02:52:49,720 --> 02:52:56,800
that the millibar was used
during which

3004
02:52:57,160 --> 02:53:00,240
John C Dvorak: hurricanes, yeah.
He just says, use you. Just used

3005
02:53:00,240 --> 02:53:00,720
a lot. And

3006
02:53:00,720 --> 02:53:05,220
Adam Curry: he says, didn't say
a lot, he says, but it has been

3007
02:53:05,220 --> 02:53:09,240
used All right. Well, I'm not
sure what the next level is, but

3008
02:53:09,240 --> 02:53:11,880
I would appreciate serving all
of Brooklyn and the county of

3009
02:53:11,880 --> 02:53:16,080
Kings and request a sativa and
psilocybin at the round table.

3010
02:53:16,320 --> 02:53:21,680
No problem. And let me see, I'd
love to give you an inflation

3011
02:53:21,680 --> 02:53:23,900
adjustment. One more thing,
Adam, you might listen to the

3012
02:53:23,900 --> 02:53:26,780
tech grouch too much when it
comes to AI, huh? Remember he

3013
02:53:26,780 --> 02:53:29,420
said that newfangled device
called the mouse wouldn't become

3014
02:53:29,420 --> 02:53:32,720
popular? No, please. That's not
what he said. He says, there's

3015
02:53:32,720 --> 02:53:36,140
no evidence, and you're wrong. I
protect my friend on this

3016
02:53:36,440 --> 02:53:40,040
anyway. He says, Sorry, sending
this so late because I tried to

3017
02:53:40,040 --> 02:53:43,600
get chat GPT to filter my paypal
history, but it kept failing or

3018
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:47,680
making numbers up, uh huh. So I
after, after he gives me crap

3019
02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:51,400
about my AI stance, so I had to
do it the old fashioned way.

3020
02:53:51,400 --> 02:53:55,420
Yours forever, sir. Eric Newman,
Night Slash Baron of Brooklyn.

3021
02:53:55,720 --> 02:54:01,080
And with that, let's bring up
our two nights for today.

3022
02:54:01,320 --> 02:54:03,060
John C Dvorak: Here's a blade
for you. Nice

3023
02:54:03,060 --> 02:54:07,440
Adam Curry: blade. Eric will
like that one. So hop on up,

3024
02:54:07,440 --> 02:54:11,280
Eric. Eric Newman and Ken
Chapman, our layaway Knight.

3025
02:54:11,280 --> 02:54:13,800
Thank you both for supporting
the no agenda show in the amount

3026
02:54:13,800 --> 02:54:17,460
of $1,000 or more. I'm very
proud to pronounce the as Sir

3027
02:54:17,460 --> 02:54:22,820
Newman, Baron of Brooklyn, and
Sir Ken of the iron suka la

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gentlemen for you. We've got
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Chardonnay, sativa and
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some other goodies at the table.
We've got beer and blunts. We've

3031
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got cowgirls and coffee, cough
and varnish. It's a great combo,

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Rubenesque woman and rose a
geisha osake, bacon, vanilla

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sparkling cider and escorts,
bong hits and bourbon, ginger,

3034
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Alan gerbils, breast milk and
Pablo man. Of course, there is

3035
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the mud and Mead right there for
you guys. Go to no agenda

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rings.com. You can take a look
at the beautiful night rings.

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It's a signet ring so you can
hit people in the mouth. It'll

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leave a beautiful mark, or maybe
a little more friendly. You can

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just use some of the seed the
wax that we supply with. That so

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you conceal your important
correspondence with it, and it

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comes with an official
certificate of authenticity. For

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those of you who became
Commodores today, go to no

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agenda rings.com all the
information on becoming and

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receiving your Commodore ship,
your Commodore ship is there on

3045
02:55:16,140 --> 02:55:18,720
the website. Thank you all for
supporting the no agenda show

3046
02:55:18,900 --> 02:55:20,060
you I

3047
02:55:26,780 --> 02:55:32,660
got a quick note here from Dan
Theodoro, cunning Canary. Canary

3048
02:55:32,660 --> 02:55:36,440
cause he says, How you doing?
Adam and John, a while ago, you

3049
02:55:36,440 --> 02:55:39,920
called AOL accounts, guaranteed
spooks. Let me tell you, I am no

3050
02:55:39,920 --> 02:55:44,320
spook, just the only no agenda
meetup member, el Madonna,

3051
02:55:44,320 --> 02:55:48,400
Tenerife, Canary Islands, I'm
working on it. So we had a meet

3052
02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:52,060
up, and he was the only one that
went, don't worry,

3053
02:55:52,660 --> 02:55:55,240
John C Dvorak: Canary Islands,
yeah, it'll get better. It'll go

3054
02:55:55,240 --> 02:55:55,540
better

3055
02:55:55,960 --> 02:55:58,720
Adam Curry: on Sunday. Oh,
that's today. Too many eggs.com.

3056
02:55:59,200 --> 02:56:02,880
Number Seven underway in Marga
at margaritas in Keene, keen New

3057
02:56:02,880 --> 02:56:07,020
Hampshire on Thursday,
Charlotte's thirsty Third

3058
02:56:07,080 --> 02:56:09,960
Thursday monthly, seven o'clock
at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte,

3059
02:56:09,960 --> 02:56:12,900
North Carolina. And of course,
on Friday, the big

3060
02:56:12,900 --> 02:56:16,980
Fredericksburg Texas meetup.
Matt long is organizing that.

3061
02:56:16,980 --> 02:56:22,220
And Matt is pretty famous. He
has a radio show here in nearby

3062
02:56:22,940 --> 02:56:27,320
on Hill Country patriot, and
it's, I think a lot of people

3063
02:56:27,320 --> 02:56:30,080
are going to show for this. So
if you are coming, and if you

3064
02:56:30,080 --> 02:56:32,900
decide to bring it on the spot,
donation, please, please, please

3065
02:56:32,900 --> 02:56:35,660
put in an envelope with a note
so that we can credit you

3066
02:56:35,660 --> 02:56:40,040
properly. And we're very excited
to be at this meetup with Tina

3067
02:56:40,040 --> 02:56:42,640
will be there. And, of course,
Matt and his wife, Gail, it's

3068
02:56:42,640 --> 02:56:46,060
going to be a hoot. Nanny
Bedford, Texas on the 19th. We

3069
02:56:46,060 --> 02:56:51,340
have Pennsauken Township, New
Jersey, Cincinnati, Ohio.

3070
02:56:52,060 --> 02:56:58,360
Aravato, Colorado on the 19th,
the 20th. We have Okeechobee,

3071
02:56:58,360 --> 02:57:02,220
Florida, Spearfish, South
Dakota, Alpharetta, Georgia,

3072
02:57:02,220 --> 02:57:05,640
Denver, Colorado on the 24th
LaGrange, Illinois on the 26th

3073
02:57:05,880 --> 02:57:09,360
Anchorage, Alaska sends a meetup
report. London on the 26th

3074
02:57:09,600 --> 02:57:13,980
Ottawa in Canada on the 26th
Houston, Texas, 28th 26th and on

3075
02:57:13,980 --> 02:57:17,340
the 28th Minneapolis, Minnesota,
many, many more, all the way

3076
02:57:17,340 --> 02:57:20,360
through January. And you can add
yours too at no agenda

3077
02:57:20,360 --> 02:57:23,480
meetups.com. This is the
connection that will bring you

3078
02:57:23,480 --> 02:57:26,420
protection you need to have
this. This is how people become

3079
02:57:26,420 --> 02:57:29,060
acquainted with one another.
You're getting out of the house.

3080
02:57:29,180 --> 02:57:32,960
Get off tick tock. Go to a
meetup. No. Agenda meetups.com.

3081
02:57:33,800 --> 02:57:35,600
You can't find one star, one
yourself.

3082
02:57:42,500 --> 02:57:42,860
Unknown: Units.

3083
02:57:50,080 --> 02:57:53,980
Days, it's like a party, and

3084
02:57:57,160 --> 02:58:02,580
Adam Curry: at this point in the
in the show, we like to see what

3085
02:58:02,580 --> 02:58:06,900
we're going to play at the end
of show as our ISO, I think I

3086
02:58:06,900 --> 02:58:08,100
went first last time.

3087
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:13,020
John C Dvorak: Okay, you want me
to go first? Is what you're

3088
02:58:13,020 --> 02:58:13,860
indicating here.

3089
02:58:14,280 --> 02:58:16,560
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm indicating
that. All right. Well, I

3090
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:19,500
John C Dvorak: got three. Okay,
the first one is a change of

3091
02:58:19,500 --> 02:58:22,340
pace type of thing. Maybe it'll
work. Maybe it won't. This is

3092
02:58:22,340 --> 02:58:29,900
the laugh. Okay, the laugh.
Interesting in the show idea.

3093
02:58:29,900 --> 02:58:30,080
Don't

3094
02:58:30,080 --> 02:58:31,760
Adam Curry: you think maybe,
maybe, maybe,

3095
02:58:32,780 --> 02:58:34,100
John C Dvorak: okay, then we got
Park.

3096
02:58:34,940 --> 02:58:36,260
Unknown: You hit it out of the
park.

3097
02:58:36,740 --> 02:58:39,260
Adam Curry: I like it. That's
not bad. And clean, yeah, it's

3098
02:58:39,260 --> 02:58:42,460
very clean. It's clean. We like
clean. And then, wow,

3099
02:58:42,520 --> 02:58:45,400
Unknown: wow. And, wow, wow.
Okay,

3100
02:58:45,460 --> 02:58:47,800
Adam Curry: so far, wow, when,
wow, wow, is leading. I have

3101
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:51,280
three. There's the black guy.

3102
02:58:52,780 --> 02:58:57,760
Unknown: I just love them.
They're lying.

3103
02:58:59,500 --> 02:59:01,860
Adam Curry: I don't, I don't I
don't think anyone can Wow And

3104
02:59:01,860 --> 02:59:06,240
wow, wow. I think wow and wow,
wow takes the cake. All right,

3105
02:59:06,240 --> 02:59:09,120
you got it once again. Good job,
everybody. Now it's time for

3106
02:59:09,120 --> 02:59:12,240
everybody's favorite moment of
the show, John's Tip of the Day.

3107
02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:13,440
And sometimes,

3108
02:59:21,960 --> 02:59:24,740
John C Dvorak: Okay, I gotta, I
forgot to load this up, but I

3109
02:59:24,740 --> 02:59:29,240
have to say I got a bunch of
feedback on the last tip. And I

3110
02:59:29,240 --> 02:59:32,300
want to, I want to. I

3111
02:59:32,300 --> 02:59:34,340
Adam Curry: thought people liked
it. I thought people liked that

3112
02:59:34,340 --> 02:59:37,640
tip. I saw people posting on x
about it, yeah,

3113
02:59:37,640 --> 02:59:40,840
John C Dvorak: yeah. But the
problem is that with that tip is

3114
02:59:40,840 --> 02:59:44,440
that there was a I could have
topped it with something that's

3115
02:59:44,440 --> 02:59:48,280
a little more close to home,
which is that apparently, Steve

3116
02:59:48,280 --> 02:59:49,120
Gibson,

3117
02:59:49,240 --> 02:59:53,200
Adam Curry: oh, he has software.
He's always has some software.

3118
02:59:53,260 --> 02:59:53,800
He has

3119
02:59:53,800 --> 02:59:56,560
John C Dvorak: a free software
that specifically for this

3120
02:59:56,560 --> 03:00:00,240
product, for this purpose. Oh, I
didn't, Oh, didn't really. Yeah,

3121
03:00:00,240 --> 03:00:05,640
and so I wanted to tip that, and
I just got to get the name of

3122
03:00:05,640 --> 03:00:08,820
it. I don't have it on my I
forgot to print it out. But it's

3123
03:00:08,820 --> 03:00:11,460
a, I think if you go to his
website, Steven Gibson,

3124
03:00:11,460 --> 03:00:12,060
whatever, Steve,

3125
03:00:12,780 --> 03:00:15,420
Adam Curry: can anybody? Can
anybody help us out real quick

3126
03:00:15,420 --> 03:00:19,740
in the trolls probably find it.
So it does the exact same thing

3127
03:00:19,740 --> 03:00:21,860
by by making sure that

3128
03:00:22,340 --> 03:00:24,500
John C Dvorak: you're that
you're the

3129
03:00:24,500 --> 03:00:27,200
Adam Curry: drive is real,
grc.com

3130
03:00:29,720 --> 03:00:32,000
John C Dvorak: Steve Gibson, I
hear us.

3131
03:00:32,180 --> 03:00:34,700
Adam Curry: I hear grc.com is
what's being yeah,

3132
03:00:34,700 --> 03:00:36,860
John C Dvorak: that's, that
would be his website. Yes. Okay,

3133
03:00:37,100 --> 03:00:39,680
yeah. So go to valid drive.
That's

3134
03:00:39,680 --> 03:00:43,720
Adam Curry: the name of it.
Valid drive, valley, Valley li

3135
03:00:43,720 --> 03:00:46,180
drive, oh, Valley drive, Valley
drive, the

3136
03:00:46,180 --> 03:00:49,060
John C Dvorak: valid drive,
valid, if it's valid. So anyway,

3137
03:00:49,060 --> 03:00:53,020
so I wanted to do that. And, you
know, since I've been backing

3138
03:00:53,020 --> 03:00:57,700
off on some of these, because
this newer, and it does, you

3139
03:00:57,700 --> 03:01:00,360
know, the other one is, kind of
is still floating around, but

3140
03:01:00,360 --> 03:01:02,880
this would probably be better,
better way to go. That's your

3141
03:01:02,880 --> 03:01:03,660
tip. Oh, that's

3142
03:01:03,660 --> 03:01:04,500
Adam Curry: the tip for today.

3143
03:01:04,980 --> 03:01:05,340
John C Dvorak: Yeah.

3144
03:01:05,520 --> 03:01:08,460
Adam Curry: All right, no agenda
Tip of the Day. It is Tip of the

3145
03:01:08,460 --> 03:01:13,860
day.net. Everybody. Are you
looking for good advice, perhaps

3146
03:01:13,860 --> 03:01:18,600
something practical or something
you really need try the new

3147
03:01:18,600 --> 03:01:22,460
agenda Tip of the day,
professional quality tips from

3148
03:01:22,460 --> 03:01:26,180
the best podcast in the
universe, professional quality

3149
03:01:26,180 --> 03:01:30,140
tips no less. That's right.
Whoo. Love those tips of the

3150
03:01:30,140 --> 03:01:36,260
day. Also at noagenda fun.com we
have a live extravaganza coming

3151
03:01:36,260 --> 03:01:39,260
up right after the show ends on
no agenda stream, trollroom.io.

3152
03:01:39,740 --> 03:01:42,940
And your modern podcast app, you
can keep listening. It's the

3153
03:01:42,940 --> 03:01:47,320
live battle of the douchebags
season two, Episode Six.

3154
03:01:47,800 --> 03:01:49,720
John C Dvorak: Well, Battle of
the douchebags is quite

3155
03:01:49,720 --> 03:01:52,000
entertaining with Sir ducifer

3156
03:01:52,360 --> 03:01:57,100
Adam Curry: of Infowars fame,
John breaks bad news, critched

3157
03:01:57,280 --> 03:02:00,960
at booberry and Sir seat sitter.
These are the guys who are at

3158
03:02:00,960 --> 03:02:05,160
the top of their game. I'm
telling when it comes to being a

3159
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:09,300
douchebag, these guys are up
there. So make sure you listen

3160
03:02:09,300 --> 03:02:12,780
to that. Just don't tune out.
Stay listening end of show

3161
03:02:12,780 --> 03:02:19,080
mixes. We are very grateful to
Dee's laughs, Cliff Cassie and

3162
03:02:19,080 --> 03:02:22,640
Neil Jones and Kevin, and coming
to you from the heart of the

3163
03:02:22,640 --> 03:02:25,880
Texas Hill Country, which is
Fredericksburg, Texas, big meet

3164
03:02:25,880 --> 03:02:28,580
up on Friday in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry,

3165
03:02:28,760 --> 03:02:32,420
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's kind

3166
03:02:32,420 --> 03:02:35,600
of does Blue Angels day about 15
minutes they're going to be

3167
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:37,760
seeing the Jets. I'm John C
Dvorak.

3168
03:02:38,060 --> 03:02:40,720
Adam Curry: We'll be back on
Thursday. Please remember us at

3169
03:02:40,720 --> 03:02:45,100
no agenda donations.com for your
time, talent and treasure, until

3170
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:50,620
Thursday, adios, mofos, a hooey,
hooey and such, and we'll put

3171
03:02:51,040 --> 03:02:51,220
the

3172
03:02:51,220 --> 03:02:55,240
Unknown: Department of Justice
of the United States back in the

3173
03:02:55,240 --> 03:02:59,560
business of justice. We will
double the Civil Rights Division

3174
03:02:59,740 --> 03:03:04,860
and direct law enforcement to
counter this extremism, we will

3175
03:03:04,860 --> 03:03:09,360
hold social media platforms
accountable for the hate

3176
03:03:09,360 --> 03:03:12,600
infiltrating their platforms,
because they have a

3177
03:03:12,600 --> 03:03:17,280
responsibility to help fight
against this threat to our

3178
03:03:17,280 --> 03:03:23,000
democracy, and If you profit off
of hate democracy. If you act as

3179
03:03:23,000 --> 03:03:28,040
a megaphone for misinformation,
if you don't police your

3180
03:03:28,040 --> 03:03:32,420
platforms to our democracy, we
are going to hold you

3181
03:03:32,480 --> 03:03:37,160
accountable as a community.
Threat to our democracy, threat

3182
03:03:37,340 --> 03:03:40,600
to our democracy, threat to our
democracy.

3183
03:03:40,840 --> 03:03:44,260
Cackling, Kamala picking tampon.
Tim, weird is not the word, but

3184
03:03:44,260 --> 03:03:48,340
where do you begin lying on your
military record? Not a sin

3185
03:03:48,340 --> 03:03:51,040
officer. Harris, the type to
have you locked up in the bin.

3186
03:03:51,460 --> 03:03:54,460
Coach's policy on covid was just
nuts. His wife opened the

3187
03:03:54,460 --> 03:03:57,520
windows to smell the city
burning with us, creating a

3188
03:03:57,520 --> 03:04:02,040
stitch line for your neighbors
and constituents, making a fuss

3189
03:04:02,340 --> 03:04:06,420
proven over and over again that,
you guessed it, yeah, these

3190
03:04:06,420 --> 03:04:09,300
politicians not like us now
they're bringing Timmy walls to

3191
03:04:09,300 --> 03:04:12,480
dance policies during the summer
of Floyd, where did he take a

3192
03:04:12,480 --> 03:04:15,960
stand stinging in his pasty and
wants to hide on the campaign

3193
03:04:15,960 --> 03:04:19,560
trail? Look around full of beta
looking males. Get the blacks to

3194
03:04:19,620 --> 03:04:24,080
the table, vote or die. That was
Diddy and oh four. Nice try. No

3195
03:04:24,080 --> 03:04:27,920
issues, disgust or policy. Look
at the energy. She's no Charlie

3196
03:04:27,920 --> 03:04:31,820
butter, b, r, a T, it's the most
important election of our life.

3197
03:04:31,820 --> 03:04:35,600
The only choice I want is having
kids and a wife. It's the most

3198
03:04:35,600 --> 03:04:38,780
important election of our life.
The only choice I want is having

3199
03:04:38,780 --> 03:04:40,360
kids and a wife. I just

3200
03:04:40,360 --> 03:04:44,320
said weird again, they ruin
everything, and that word is so

3201
03:04:44,320 --> 03:04:49,000
common and trying to scrub it
from my vocabulary, but I can, I

3202
03:04:49,000 --> 03:04:53,440
can, I will. It is my hope to
never use that word again and

3203
03:04:53,440 --> 03:04:56,620
find a good replacement. Maybe
I'll make one up. Absolutely

3204
03:04:56,620 --> 03:05:01,080
bananas. I. Bananas,

3205
03:05:02,280 --> 03:05:05,400
bananas, bananas, so Bananas,
bananas, so

3206
03:05:05,400 --> 03:05:09,660
Bananas, bananas, so bananas.
This is

3207
03:05:21,600 --> 03:05:27,920
absolutely Gob smackingly,
bananas, Bananas, bananas,

3208
03:05:28,340 --> 03:05:28,880
Bananas,

3209
03:05:29,180 --> 03:05:32,600
bananas, absolutely bananas,
absolutely, absolutely,

3210
03:05:32,960 --> 03:05:36,920
absolutely, so So bananas,
absolutely, so bananas,

3211
03:05:36,980 --> 03:05:42,340
absolutely, so Bananas, gob
smacking Lee, Bananas, bananas,

3212
03:05:42,340 --> 03:05:43,600
Bananas, bananas, adios.

3213
03:06:02,560 --> 03:06:03,660
Mofo. Mofora.org/n,

3214
03:06:06,420 --> 03:06:09,360
a wow and wow, wow.