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John C Dvorak: Well, you do the
way I say it away. The

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government coming in.

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Unknown: Adam curry. John C
Dvorak, Thursday,

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Adam Curry: October 17, 2024
this your award winning gimbal

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nation. Media assassination
episode 1704,

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Unknown: this is no agenda,
celebrating

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Adam Curry: six weeks in friend
and broadcasting live from the

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heart of the Texas Hill Country,
right here in FEMA Region,

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number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we've

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noticed that for the first time
in eight years, they've brought

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out the b2 bombers to bomb the
crap out of Yemen. I'm John C

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Dvorak. It's crack

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Unknown: bottom buzzkill in the
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Adam Curry: Well, speaking of
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John C Dvorak: did you read that
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CBS News?

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Adam Curry: No, I got it from
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John C Dvorak: No, I got it from
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mean, we're bombing the crap out
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isn't the top of the news.

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Adam Curry: I got here. Dude
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is our boots on the ground in
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couple of them. ITM gents,
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progressing well. Yahya senoa is
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leader Hezbollah is dead, and
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Houthis almost there before
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up with a phone call. Thank you
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John C Dvorak: got the right
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call, yeah, say before you

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Adam Curry: continue, we had a
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Fredericksburg this morning. Oh,
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Gillespie County Sheriff office
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inventory of a U haul box truck
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apparently arrested some dude
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Fredericksburg from Washington
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Bureau of Investigation all
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inventory of the U haul stemmed
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Friday. The person driving the U
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Washington for the theft over
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precious metals, which were
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with several explosive devices

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John C Dvorak: that were going
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Adam Curry: were removed from
the U haul, a few were detonated

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within the safety zone here in
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him over by the Walmart. So this
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John C Dvorak: these things up.
Bill, over by the Walmart. Now

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get some attention. We'll get
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Adam Curry: Doesn't this have
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does weak, weak brother, who
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you take this and they had,
let's say, what else did they

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find? Numerous ammo cans of
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armor. This guy was ready. He
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's
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than I. Let me just go back to
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newsletter. I want to read this
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CBS. Oh, I can't have that. I
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this. Listen to this, Raytheon.
You heard anything about

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Raytheon?

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Adam Curry: I've heard of them.
I hear their stock is up

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John C Dvorak: to pay nearly $1
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Oh, what? Yeah, allegedly
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company took in more than 111
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Wow, during two set two, two,
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connection with the Patriot
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system goes on Raytheon.
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company is taking, we're taking
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misconduct, but, but it, but it
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largely prior to 2020. Oh, large
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Adam Curry: Trump. This is
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for that taken $1.7 billion off
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John C Dvorak: rewind, yeah. In
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million for the on our
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technology to China, Russia,
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Adam Curry: you go.

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John C Dvorak: How come this?
Isn't it like running right at

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this would be the top of the
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various interviews of Kamala?
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Adam Curry: instead, we have to
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lie of the day. We play first
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viral and what everybody is
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vice president. And then we
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because this actually comes from
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clips. I didn't even realize
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another very fine people hoax.
But here it is the viral clip.

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Unknown: I think the bigger
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within, not even the people that
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country, by the way, totally
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towns, the villages, are being
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think they're the problem in
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the bigger problem are the
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very bad people. We have some
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lunatics. And I think they're
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handled by, if necessary, by
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Adam Curry: that was, and we'll
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Trump is going to seek the
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people, on journalists, on
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political enemies. Oh, now let's

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John C Dvorak: that's a good
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Adam Curry: Only women only do
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John C Dvorak: women, women do
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Adam Curry: now we will play
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Maria bartiromos Sunday morning
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Unknown: everyone all over the
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we've taken in hundreds of
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Congo all the way in Africa,
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East, we're taking in massive
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terrorists, and they're coming
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Middle Eastern terrorists. And
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lot from South America. It was

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an Afghan refugee charged with
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No thanks. Not from the side
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just wondering if these outside
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election day. Let's say you win.
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remember, you've got 50,000
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country in the last couple of
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terrorist watch list, 350 in the
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said, 13,000 murderers and
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expecting? Joe Biden said he
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peaceful election day? Well, he

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doesn't have any idea what's
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most of his day sleeping. I
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enemy from within, not even the
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destroying our country, by the
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Day. I think the bigger problem
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have some very bad people. We
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left lunatics. And I think
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very easily handled by if
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Adam Curry: So what Trump is
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a genius to figure it out, is
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not going to be not going to be
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should bring in the National
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would be from the sick people
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wins, we'll probably go rioting
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Matter. It was very obvious.
What he was saying. Was it

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John C Dvorak: If you hear it in
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that's not what they're playing.

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Adam Curry: So I think this, and
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John C Dvorak: go, because I
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I'll give you this. I like the
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very fine people hoax, because
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Adam Curry: so I think this was,
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John C Dvorak: way, fortunately,
Kamala, Kamala Kamala, she can't

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use it as saying the only reason
I ran is because the very fine

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Adam Curry: no, but I think this
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up on Brett bear for this. This
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ritual against her by her own
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John C Dvorak: is how I have
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Adam Curry: I'll play this from
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pertains to the this new hoax.
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Unknown: one point, Harris
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against Trump and his threat to
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He's the one who talks about an
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within, talking about the
American people, suggesting he

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would turn the American military
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Adam Curry: We asked just for
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president on election day. So he
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Biden administration should.
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John C Dvorak: Good point people

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Faulkner had a town hall, and
this is how he responded. I

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about that. They were saying I
was like threatening. I'm not

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threatening anybody. They're the
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do phony investigations. I've
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Alphonse Capone. He was the
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government is terrible, so

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I'm sorry, and with all due
respect, that clip was not what

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he has been saying about the
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repeated when he's speaking
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That's not what you just showed
he was asking. That's not what

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you just showed, in all fairness
and respect to you question that

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we asked, he didn't show that.
And here's the bottom line, He

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has repeated it many times. And
you and I both know that, and

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you and I both know that he has
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American military on the
American people. He has talked

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about going after people who are
engaged in peaceful protest. He

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has talked about locking people
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him. This is a democracy, and in
a democracy, the President of

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the United States, in the United
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willing to be able to handle
criticism without saying he'd

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lock people up for doing it. And
this is what is at stake. Well,

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Adam Curry: this is what is at
stake. I just have to play this

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45 seconds from Tim waltz,
because he really drove home the

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message that they're trying to
convey. This is a must win state

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for Kamala Harris to take the
White House. Chief Political

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Reporter Jason Zimmerman was at
the event and two unexpected

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stops after walls arrived in the
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walls. Well, hello

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Unknown: Green Bay. Good to see
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greeting hundreds of supporters
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in Green Bay. Vice Presidential
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alongside fellow Democrats,
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Wisconsin and Michigan, making
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John C Dvorak: Yesterday, he

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Unknown: went on Fox News.
That's a safe place for him. He

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went on there, and he suggested
that he is going to send the

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military against the enemy from
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about it. In other words,
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Adam Curry: and the news media
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Adam Curry: All, all, all in now
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here to participate in the
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to serve you to deconstruct your
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given ability, and we will do
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interview made no sense to me.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I thought
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a bad interview from Bear's
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thought she steamrolled him. She
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want to play this pre clip. This
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that was on Tucker Carlson, oh,
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John C Dvorak: yeah, she's a
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John C Dvorak: was in and around
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this is the part that I thought
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camelo, which is the fact that
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it. Kamala, not Kamala. Kamala
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a conventional name, absolutely.
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Brahmin. She's a, she's from a
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trying to explain how throughout
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Adam Curry: Brahmin, there you
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John C Dvorak: yes, I listened
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responsible. Brahmins, I will
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John C Dvorak: I don't think
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like to know what is, because
this arrogance that she

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portrays, this kind of uh oh,
let me talk. And I mean, this

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look on her face, the whole way
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Adam Curry: I like this. I don't
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expert, the brexpert.

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John C Dvorak: Well, we have a
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they're in high tech. They
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they dominate. At least sections

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Adam Curry: of high tech is such
a Nadella, a Brahmin. Oh,

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absolutely. And who's the guy
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arrogance. We have, the
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arrogance. And they, they're
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caste system in India, and
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ones that we have are extremely
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they do not have the they kind
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Noblesse oblige. I think it was
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of these classes to, like, for
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Adam Curry: hello. Oh, I did it
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John C Dvorak: Oh, you did
that's good already? Yeah, I'm

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Adam Curry: already on the
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John C Dvorak: So my son, who
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says that they have their
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Indian donors. He believes is
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donate to the show in any
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they're obligated to do because
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the ones who lead the way to
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since they don't help us at all,
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we can, you can go on about them
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not complimentary, and I think
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really sits there arrogantly.
She's a bad Brom lectures

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people. Is from this culture.
It's not from her being black,

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no. And I think it rubs people
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need in this country to any
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of the United States. There you
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system. And I think it, I think
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don't care how much money she
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much corruption they can throw
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that she can get in because of
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Adam Curry: No, there's a No,
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John C Dvorak: so, so Brett bear
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That sucked, by the way, and
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Brett asked a follow up
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Adam Curry: saw that afterwards,
you know? Oh, yes, Brett, I

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think you you really you were
good at steering it back, and

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you were really good. Oh, this
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job, by the way. Brett's kind of
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see him normally because he's
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he's a big guy. He's a big guy,
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John C Dvorak: but he is not an
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extreme, as I would say, is I
wouldn't call him a good

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interviewer, and he let her kind
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give him the old, well, I'm
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going on and on. He could when
she says, Let me finish my he

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said, Well, you're not answering
the question. I'd let you what

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he should say, stuff like, stuff
like, I'd let you finish if you

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were answering the question.
It's a simple question, right,

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right? But he never did any of
that, and he let her ramble. She

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went on and on and on, and I
have a couple of can

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Adam Curry: I just make a
suggestion that that people like

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Brett, bear and Fox in general,
that they feel they have to be

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somewhat cautious? Just in case
she wins, so they still have

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John C Dvorak: I don't believe
that's true. No,

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Adam Curry: okay, that was,
that's what I thought. I

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John C Dvorak: I don't think
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they're just not that good. No,

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Adam Curry: nobody watches these
shows anymore.

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John C Dvorak: Well, everybody's
watching. That's a whole

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different topic of conversation.
Everybody's agree. Everybody's

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Adam Curry: watching the golden
bachelor. Hello, Oh, I did it

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again. Oh no,

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John C Dvorak: I gotta stop Yes,
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Adam Curry: I'm gonna stop it
now. All right, from this moment

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on, I'm stopping it. Here we go.
All right, here we go. Hello.

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Nope, you're not going to get it
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done with it. I'm done. Okay,
I'm disgusted with myself. Now,

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John C Dvorak: let's start with
a summary that NPR gave of the

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Harris bear. This Harris bear
summary, NPR this is what they

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thought of the of the thing. And
NPR and a bunch of I there's a

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bunch of tiktokers and everybody
in between saying, Oh, she

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cleaned his clock. You know,
she's she won.

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Adam Curry: Let's listen to the
elitist voices, elitist

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Unknown: voices of America. This
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or PBS Democrat Kamala Harris
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transgender rights in the
economy in a wide ranging

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President, pushing back on
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terms of her positions, Harris
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be a continuation of Joe Biden's
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House in November and asked
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supporters of GOP rival Donald
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he's the one who tends to demean
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American people. He's the one
who talks about an enemy within,

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within, an enemy within talking
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suggesting he would turn the
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speaking at a rally earlier
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surrounded by more than 100
Republicans who now say they'll

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vote for her over Trump Harris,
again, called Trump unstable and

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Adam Curry: I think I really,
since everyone had you,

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John C Dvorak: don't you think
that was the most slanted report

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you've ever heard, and it backed
up your thesis about the media

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going along with this. You know,
the military attacking the

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Adam Curry: why she was there.
That was the only thing she had

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to launch in some desperation
move outside of what I just

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thought was a satanic ritual by
her team on her why? Why? Why

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you don't need to go on break.

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John C Dvorak: You're I think
what you're saying is self

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contradictory.

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Adam Curry: Oh,

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John C Dvorak: well, you're
saying that she went there to

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get launched this at work, the
media picked it up, CBS. I have

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CBS clips saying the same thing.
They're on her side. And you

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just heard NPR going on about
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huge success. How? You know,
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Adam Curry: okay, now I'll give
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but it was still a satanic
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John C Dvorak: that was, well,
everything that they do is a

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Satanic Thank you. Redundant.
All right, I'll stop saying it.

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We agree. Here's a couple of
here's another one. This is a

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Tiktok analysis. Is it Harris,
bear talker analysis? This is

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somebody who also watched it and
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Unknown: Okay, so the interview
with Fox News, Brett, somebody

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or other and Kamala Harris just
ended, and here's the

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assessment. What? Wasn't
actually an interview? Uh, this

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Brett guy spent the entire time
talking over Kamala Harris, my

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hope is misogynist, that
mansplaining the the the level

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at which he was interrupting
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speak, talking over her, running
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all of his questions, his queued
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was using the 25 minutes to
indict Kamala Harris on behalf

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of the viewing audience. Every
single question he spent about

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15 minutes talking about
immigration and would not let

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her speak, then switched over to
the use of public money for

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gender reassignment in prisons,
and then the rest of it was oh,

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72% for this or for that, and
why is that? And how come half

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of America, you know, wants
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Adam Curry: Oh, I can completely
see how someone would view it

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that way. That doesn't surprise
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And these, these things, I think

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everyone's mind has been made up
for a while. Yeah, just dicing

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on the cake. Yeah. But let's
listen. I have two clips from

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the from the interview that are
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that is the direction that bear

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should have gone be and I'll
tell you play these two

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interviews, and I'll give you
some analysis of what Gutfeld

446
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and others felt, because they
were all jacked up that this was

447
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great. Oh,

448
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Adam Curry: what's good? I mean.
And so just what I heard right

449
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away, oh, oh, the four staffers
would have telling them to wrap

450
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it up, to wrap it up, to wrap it
up for staffers. Four staffers.

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That is the Republican side of
the response.

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John C Dvorak: Let's start with
hair. Harris, bear last

453
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unstable.

454
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Unknown: He's unstable. Stable.
He is unstable.

455
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He's not well. You say he's
mentally not stable.

456
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He's not let me ask you this.

457
00:26:00,780 --> 00:26:04,860
You told many interviewers that
Joe Biden was on his game that

458
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ran around circles on his staff.
When did you first notice that

459
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President Biden's mental
faculties appeared diminished?

460
00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:19,500
Joe Biden, I had watched in from
the Oval Office to the situation

461
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room, and he has the judgment
and the experiment and

462
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experience to do exactly what he
has done in making very

463
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important decisions on behalf of
the American people. Joe Biden

464
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is not on ballot. Understand
Donald Trump. Donald,

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Adam Curry: she should have
answered with that. She should

466
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have started with that. Joe
Biden, she

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John C Dvorak: would she dreamed
that up in the middle of her

468
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,480
thought process. She actually
had a thought process here, and

469
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she came up with that because
she this caught her off guard.

470
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You could tell she was stunned,
yeah, by the question, because

471
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this is nothing that she's been
addressing. Now, wait,

472
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Adam Curry: let me finish the
clip. It's your clip. I'm sorry.

473
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I just I wanted to say she
should have started with that

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like Joe Biden is not on the
ballot.

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John C Dvorak: Understand,
Donald Trump.

476
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:04,920
Unknown: Donald Trump, Donald
Trump, Donald Trump and Donald

477
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,180
George Clooney said

478
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within a few minutes of talking
to President Biden fundraiser

479
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that he thought this was not the
same Joe Biden that we saw on

480
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the debate

481
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stage is on the ballot. You met

482
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with him at least once a week
for three and a half years. You

483
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didn't have any concerns.

484
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I think the American people have
a concern about Donald Trump,

485
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which is why the people who know
him best try, including leaders

486
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of our national security
community, have all spoken out,

487
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:38,480
even people who worked for him
in the Oval Office, worked with

488
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him in the Situation Room, and
have said he is unfit and

489
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dangerous and should never be
President of the United States

490
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:51,880
again, including his former vice
president, which is why the job

491
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:58,480
was open for him to choose
another running mate. So that is

492
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a fact. That is a fact.

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Adam Curry: It this. So I think
you're right that this was

494
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really an interview to seed the
M 5m with all kinds of facts

495
00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:13,920
that she used. And of course, we
know which one stuck, but

496
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that's, I mean, it was all every
answer was about Trump, which is

497
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,660
what, what she's been doing at
her rallies and everything,

498
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:21,380
pretty much,

499
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,360
John C Dvorak: yes, and here and
here's the second clip I pulled

500
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from this thing. This is the
parish bear, the Trump trans ad.

501
00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:34,820
This plays the trans ad for her.

502
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,780
Unknown: This particular one
from the Trump campaign has

503
00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:39,860
gotten a lot of attention.

504
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,480
Kamala supports taxpayer funded
sex changes for prisoners,

505
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,140
surgery

506
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for prisoners, for prisoners,
every transgender inmate in the

507
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prison system would have access.

508
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So are you still in support of
using taxpayer dollars to help

509
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prison inmates or detained
illegal aliens to transition to

510
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another gender,

511
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,480
I will follow the law. And it's
a law that Donald Trump actually

512
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followed. You're probably
familiar with now. It's a public

513
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,840
report that under Donald Trump's
administration, these surgeries

514
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were available to on a medical
necessity basis, to people in

515
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the federal prison system. And I
think, frankly, that ad from the

516
00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:28,520
Trump campaign is a little bit
of like throwing, you know,

517
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stones when you live in a glass
house. The

518
00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:33,440
Trump aides say that he never
advocated for that prison policy

519
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:40,880
and no gender transition, no
surgeries happened in this

520
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,720
pregnancy. Would you still
advocate for using taxpayer

521
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,520
dollars for gender reassignment?
I

522
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will follow the law. He did.

523
00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:51,700
You would have a say as
president like I

524
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:55,780
said, I think it's really he
spent $20 million on those ads

525
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:59,440
trying to create a sense of fear
in the voters, because he

526
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,320
actually. Has no plan in this
election that is about focusing

527
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,580
on the needs of the American
people, whereas at $20 million

528
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,520
on that ad on an issue that as
it relates to the biggest issues

529
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,240
that affect the American people,
is really quite remote.

530
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:21,440
Adam Curry: I bet you the people
at Fox are going, when are you

531
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,820
spending your 1 billion? Kamala,
you got a billion dollars. He

532
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:27,620
spent 20 million on that ad.
Well, the

533
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:29,840
John C Dvorak: way she says that
he could have called her out on

534
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:32,420
ads don't cost $20 million

535
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,140
Adam Curry: I think she meant
the ad buy, but that's not what

536
00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:37,460
she said. No, okay,

537
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,560
John C Dvorak: he could call her
out on all the stuff that she

538
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says is not what she meant. Oh,
that's what I mean. Wait a

539
00:30:42,460 --> 00:30:42,760
minute.

540
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,800
Adam Curry: Wait now you're
disappointed somehow. And Brett

541
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,220
bear,

542
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,420
John C Dvorak: I've been very
whole thing was like this, and

543
00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:53,440
here's what I finally concluded,
because it seems as if what they

544
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,800
did was listen to her speeches
over and over and decided to

545
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,120
grill her on stuff that she
already had rehearsed. And so

546
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,720
her rehearsed lines came out,
and they would talk about this

547
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,620
dream. Gutfield talked about how
good triggers, sorry, a good

548
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:09,840
Adam Curry: trigger. Good way to
get her to say what you want is

549
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,540
just trigger her with the stuff
she's rehearsed.

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00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,940
John C Dvorak: Yes, but that's
all she did. Was she just said

551
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,340
that the same rehearsed
material. And once in a while,

552
00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:20,660
she'd go they rarely, and she
did come up with some good

553
00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:23,900
stuff, like Trump's not heard
Biden's not on the ballot when

554
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,240
he could have countered that, by
the way, when she says, Well,

555
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,820
Biden's not on the ballot, he
says, I'm not talking about

556
00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:31,520
who's on the bet. He should have
said, I'm not talking about

557
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,020
who's on the ballot again,

558
00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:36,200
Adam Curry: John. I mean, let's
not be disappointed in the in

559
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,920
the in the mainstream media.
This is what they do. They suck.

560
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,120
I'm

561
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,380
John C Dvorak: deciding, Fox, it
could be done better, is what

562
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:48,580
I'm saying, of course, of
course. Now, so let's go to and

563
00:31:48,580 --> 00:31:50,860
what he should have done,
instead of going along with the

564
00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:54,160
program and looking at what she
already said and then asking her

565
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,500
about what she'd already said,
that she already had rehearsed,

566
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,320
which made for a boring back and
forth. It was terrible that no

567
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,800
matter what anyone thinks that
Brett, Bill Brett, bear, oh,

568
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,940
Fox. You went to Fox. Blah,
blah, blah on a podcast that I

569
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:14,640
want to play this clip. This is
Harris with Soledad O'Brien. Oh,

570
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,240
they we know Soledad. We know
Soledad. We know so he's like,

571
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,380
now here's what Brett should
have done, what Soledad did,

572
00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:26,240
which is ask off the wall
questions and let her go off.

573
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:30,980
This is an unbelievable clip.
This is a classic, and he could

574
00:32:30,980 --> 00:32:34,940
have done that instead of it was
almost as though his plan, let's

575
00:32:35,060 --> 00:32:38,480
ask her questions that she has
she has already rehearsed and

576
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,040
the answer to a million times.
Let's go ask those questions

577
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,520
again. Let's ask the same
questions, which he fact did,

578
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,760
the same questions that were
asked on 60 minutes about, you

579
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,000
know, how many people came
across the border? No, no, no.

580
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,780
He should have done what Soledad
simply did, which is, let her

581
00:32:55,780 --> 00:33:00,120
ramble about stuff that just off
the wall. Listen to this is

582
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,840
agreeing

583
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,100
Unknown: to voter ID, one

584
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,320
of those compromises that you
support. I

585
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,940
don't think that we should
underestimate what that could

586
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:12,840
mean, because in some people's
mind, that means, well, you're

587
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:19,860
going to have to Xerox or
photocopy your ID to send it in

588
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:21,980
to prove who you are, who you
are? Well, there are a whole lot

589
00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:24,680
of people, especially people who
live in rural communities, who

590
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,460
don't there's no Kinkos, there's
no Office Max near them. People

591
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:31,340
have to understand that when
we're talking about voter ID

592
00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:34,640
laws, be clear about who you
have in mind and what would be

593
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,940
required of them to prove who
they are. Of course, people have

594
00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:41,200
to prove who they are, but not
in a way that makes it them,

595
00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:43,480
almost impossible for them to
prove who they

596
00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:50,200
Adam Curry: are. You know, we're
so used to her. I mean, here

597
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,220
I'll give you, let me give you
example of, you know, she was on

598
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:58,540
Charlemagne the God, and
Charlemagne brought in, brought

599
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:00,960
in a reverend, and she's like,
Oh, I grew up in the black

600
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church. I grew up in the black
church in Canada. I grew up in

601
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the black church. Oh, yeah,
Canada, right, yeah. I grew up

602
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:11,160
in the black church, black
church. Oh, it's the it's right

603
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,020
near you, the 23rd Avenue Church
of God in in Oakland. Yeah. And

604
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:21,920
so she, she went to the black
church because that's what you

605
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,020
do when you're black. We all
know that. You know, whenever

606
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:27,380
you're in trouble, you go to the
church. And here's what she

607
00:34:27,380 --> 00:34:28,280
said, because what

608
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,200
Unknown: we see is so hard to
see that we lose faith or a

609
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560
vision of those things we cannot
see. But must know, amen

610
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,980
Adam Curry: sister, she's vapid.

611
00:34:43,179 --> 00:34:45,999
John C Dvorak: Yes, and that the
Soledad question, which was

612
00:34:45,999 --> 00:34:49,479
just, what do you think about
voter ID? And she goes off about

613
00:34:49,479 --> 00:34:54,099
Kinkos, and you have to mail in.
Where do you have to mail in a

614
00:34:54,099 --> 00:34:58,899
photocopy of anything? And it's
just like, What are you talking

615
00:34:58,899 --> 00:35:03,479
about? Is the. Way, if Brett
bear, if they had a clue at Fox,

616
00:35:03,659 --> 00:35:06,899
which you, I mean, you have to
go along with your theory on

617
00:35:06,899 --> 00:35:08,999
this, which they're just really
a bunch of Democrats in

618
00:35:08,999 --> 00:35:12,359
disguise, yeah, and they're not
going to do anything that's

619
00:35:12,359 --> 00:35:16,079
that's aggressive, as opposed to
Soledad, who's just, you know,

620
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,199
kind of asking Rando questions
and letting her talk. Yeah. It's

621
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,259
like, you know, she could, she's
just gonna dig herself a hole,

622
00:35:24,259 --> 00:35:28,219
as opposed to what she's already
used to talking about. This Bret

623
00:35:28,219 --> 00:35:30,859
bear interview was a disaster.

624
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:35,540
Adam Curry: I'm glad you got
that off your chest. I mean, and

625
00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:39,860
I agree with you, I was just
okay. I didn't understand why it

626
00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:43,240
was done, you know, other than
to give the mainstream media

627
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:47,500
some fuel to say Trump is going
to come after you and, oh, he

628
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,260
John C Dvorak: also says that,
oh, I have the guts to go on

629
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:55,360
Fox. I think there was an
element of that because, you

630
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,240
know, well, you know, they get
Trump's been doing this and

631
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:01,260
that, so now, oh, I went on Fox.
Okay, well, that's out of the

632
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:02,400
way. Checkbox.

633
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,080
Adam Curry: Did you hear by any
chance, Carville?

634
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,160
John C Dvorak: Not? Well, I
heard him last week. Oh

635
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Adam Curry: no, no. You have to
hear Carville on the the new

636
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,820
very fine people hoax on the
enemy from went from within, and

637
00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:21,260
he's on Psaki show, who's
sitting there like she just

638
00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:23,180
dumped a turd in her Pampers.

639
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:24,980
John C Dvorak: When do? What day
was this?

640
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:30,080
Adam Curry: This? It might have,
I don't, I don't have the date,

641
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,840
but it's after the after this
interview. So it's in the last

642
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,100
few the bear interview. No, no,
before the bear interview, after

643
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:41,080
the Bartiromo. The money on the
interview, okay? Because it's

644
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,000
about the about the enemy from
within, and why anyone lets

645
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Carvel on the air anymore is, is
a riddle. It's a mystery to me.

646
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,140
Does he have any political
clout? Is he important anymore?

647
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:56,740
He

648
00:36:56,740 --> 00:36:58,960
John C Dvorak: doesn't work for
anybody. He just comes on as a

649
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,020
kind of a loose cannon. I think
that's why they bring him on for

650
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:05,400
entertainment purposes. Well, he

651
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,760
Adam Curry: takes it to a whole
new level. Now, mind you, on the

652
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,800
Maria interview, right after the
enemy from within, she says,

653
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080
hey, you've booked Madison
Square Garden. And he's like,

654
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,180
oh, yeah, yeah, we're gonna have
a good time in Madison Square

655
00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,560
Garden. I always wanted to play
Madison Square Garden. Madison

656
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,960
Square Garden. Now listen to
Carville. I

657
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,900
Unknown: did not realize when I
said that, that he would

658
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480
actually go on television and
say, I'm going to use the

659
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,500
military to round up my
political enemies. When I said

660
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,560
that, I didn't General Flynn,
who's going to be very senior in

661
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,360
this administration, didn't say
that the gates of hell will

662
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,080
reign on my political enemies.
When I said that, I didn't know

663
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,220
that he was going to schedule a
rally in Madison Square Garden

664
00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:56,260
to mimic the Nazi rally of 1939
so we have that they're telling

665
00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:59,740
you, and by the way, if they
win, they're going to correctly

666
00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:02,940
say, we told you an election
what we're going to do, and you

667
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:07,140
voted for us. You have green
lighted the whole thing. And if

668
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:10,980
we don't tell people about that,
if they don't, if these young

669
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:14,640
black men, how do you think
they're going to do if you're a

670
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:20,480
young black male and Trump
inspired on a roundup of people,

671
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,120
how well do you think you're
going to do in that you think

672
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,240
you got nothing to lose? How
about looking at American

673
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:30,260
history for one time and see
what can happen here? And they

674
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:34,040
are telling you, we're not
making this up. This is not we

675
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,760
can be fact checked by anybody.
They have promised military

676
00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:41,080
Roundup. They promised the gates
of hell will rain on the

677
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,440
enemies. The Supreme Court has
green lighted it. They were

678
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,880
asked a question, if a Navy Seal
is ordered to assassinate.

679
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:52,720
John C Dvorak: This is the
Supreme Court has green lighted

680
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,180
Adam Curry: you can fact check

681
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,600
Unknown: Roundup. They promised
the gates of hell will rain on

682
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,040
the enemies. The Supreme Court
has green lighted it. They were

683
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,480
asked a question, if a Navy Seal
is ordered to assassinate a

684
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,600
political enemy, the president
can't beat nothing wrong with

685
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,380
that. That's just part of his
job. Telling you they're doing

686
00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:18,360
all of this. Pay attention to
them right now. Please. They're

687
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:18,960
telling you

688
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,100
it's, it's I'm exactly,

689
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,820
exactly what he's saying. It is,

690
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,160
that is why I think Harris is
telling people to watch his

691
00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:29,960
rallies. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, okay.

692
00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:33,980
John C Dvorak: Oh man. That you
know what? I did hear parts of

693
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:38,360
that because I remember the him
saying that Nazi rallies, the

694
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,340
Nazi rally, because grand, you
know Madison Square Gardens, but

695
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,580
the fact this is the insane, and
yes, it's great. She's that's

696
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:51,940
the worst, because now her
ratings are next to nothing. So

697
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:57,220
nobody's I saw it the truth, the
true believers watched, yeah,

698
00:39:57,220 --> 00:40:01,560
you saw it as a of course, of
course. As a research watch,

699
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,460
yes, hello. Oh, the insanity of
this guy.

700
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:09,660
Adam Curry: And why and why? I
mean that nothing left,

701
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,260
John C Dvorak: and he this in
his Louisiana accent is off the

702
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,740
rails. It's gone so bad you can
barely understand him. He sounds

703
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:20,100
like a dummy. He's like he
sounds like one of those. Which

704
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:23,600
brings back the point why they
have this guy on? He sounds like

705
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,380
somebody always pointed this out
to me. Some Texas person said to

706
00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:30,200
me, you know, they always put
the dumbest people they can find

707
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,160
on television when they're
representing the South. Yes. So

708
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,520
when you have like, a bad
situation, CBS will bring on

709
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,820
somebody. Well, you do the way I
say it a way the government

710
00:40:42,820 --> 00:40:46,240
coming in to make it sound like
the guy's an idiot. Why would

711
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,620
Carville sounds like one of
those guys? Well, he is. Sounds

712
00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:52,660
like the local idiot. He

713
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:57,640
Adam Curry: is. What he's saying
is idiotic. Yes, he is. He is

714
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,040
one of those with the accent and
an idiot the Supreme Court green

715
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,000
lit it, yeah, Supreme Court
green remember it was, it was a

716
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,580
question from the lawyer who
said, so, if a Green Beret, you

717
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:11,640
know, if you can order a Green
Beret to a set. This was

718
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:18,480
asinine, completely unhinged and
crazy. And I'm just going to

719
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,420
say, they want him to win. They
want him to win. And it was

720
00:41:23,420 --> 00:41:27,440
actually Muhammad Ali, who I
was. Someone sent me this clip.

721
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,000
It's 45 seconds, and back in the
day, Muhammad Ali was asked, you

722
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,340
know, people say hey, people
want you to be president. You

723
00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:38,180
want to be president, so just
replace the word black here with

724
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,680
orange. Would you like to be
president? No, no, no,

725
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,720
Unknown: sir, too dangerous.

726
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,660
Like in other words, here's

727
00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:49,540
a ship. People are dancing on
the ship, a lot of money's on

728
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:52,600
the ship, lot of foods on the
ship. And I cannot integrate on

729
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,480
the ship. I cannot have equality
on the ship. I'm just in the

730
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,180
galley working, and I never
could get up and see the captain

731
00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:03,000
the ship. Now, all of a sudden,
the man tells me, say, come on

732
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,460
down. I'll leave out of the
galley. I want you to come up

733
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:08,160
here and here, have something to
drink. What do you want? And

734
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,740
giving me number one spot from
the galley to the number one

735
00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:12,480
spot, I say, this shit must be
sinking

736
00:42:14,820 --> 00:42:16,800
Adam Curry: Exactly. Oh,

737
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,080
John C Dvorak: that's a great
clip from in that with that

738
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,740
perspective

739
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:23,900
Adam Curry: and to know this is,
this is an amazing thing that

740
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,080
someone sent me this morning
from this. This is an outlet

741
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,220
called straight arrow news from
time to time. Yes, I've heard of

742
00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:32,480
him, yeah. But

743
00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:36,980
John C Dvorak: this is, is
promoted by a number of right

744
00:42:36,980 --> 00:42:38,120
wingers. Well,

745
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480
Adam Curry: not many people send
me this because and they don't

746
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,120
have a lot of views, so I'm not
quite sure who's funding them,

747
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,800
but this is now the government
putting this in from FBI

748
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,060
specifically putting this in
from information out, was where

749
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:56,800
we less than two weeks from
Election Day. This to me, if

750
00:42:56,980 --> 00:43:00,840
anyone picks this up and runs
with it, this is a October

751
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,100
surprise right here,

752
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:06,540
Unknown: the FBI has revised its
crime data from 2022 first,

753
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:11,820
reporting a 2.1% decrease in
violent crime, now revealing a

754
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:18,180
4.5% increase, the increase from
2021 to 2022 in each Crime

755
00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:23,000
category is depicted here. The
revision includes 80,000 more

756
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,340
incidents of violent crime than
previously reported, 1699 more

757
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:34,940
murders. 7780 more rapes and
more than 33,000 robberies and

758
00:43:34,940 --> 00:43:39,920
37,000 aggravated assaults. The
FBI released this new data

759
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,660
without formally announcing the
changes, noting only on its

760
00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:48,160
website that the 2022, violent
crime rate had been updated. The

761
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,120
discovery was first highlighted
by John Lott, an American

762
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,900
economist and political
commentator. The revised data is

763
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:57,460
all publicly available.

764
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,280
Adam Curry: Wow. This is This is
big this, I

765
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,620
John C Dvorak: know, and it also
brings into question David

766
00:44:04,620 --> 00:44:08,940
Muir's commentary during the
fact check, yeah, yeah, the fact

767
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:13,020
check that he stopped a debate
to fact checks and no, crimes

768
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:16,020
down. And the Democrats have
been going on and on and on

769
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:18,840
about crime being down. I had it
at the dinner table the other

770
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,260
day. Crime's down. Oh, man, it's
harsh

771
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:24,380
Adam Curry: with your kids. It's
harsh because you just want to

772
00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:25,160
whip them, don't you?

773
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:28,220
John C Dvorak: No, they're worth
arguing with

774
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,060
Adam Curry: now, well, take this
clip to the next dinner table.

775
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
That'll work, that'll show them
those whipper snappers.

776
00:44:35,780 --> 00:44:38,360
John C Dvorak: Show them
anything. I do have a series of

777
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:46,660
campaign overview clips from
CBS, okay? Which tend to which

778
00:44:46,660 --> 00:44:50,380
tend to show the attitude. I
still think CBS has been cut

779
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:53,980
loose because they're read in
anymore.

780
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,080
Adam Curry: Well, maybe, maybe
they're in for Trump.

781
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,920
John C Dvorak: No, I don't know.
It's just I, oh, wait, I'm.

782
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Story.

783
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:03,060
Adam Curry: They're trying to be
fair and balanced. Oh, that

784
00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:03,660
makes no, they're

785
00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:05,640
John C Dvorak: not. They're not
trying to be fair and balanced,

786
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,140
but they're way. They're going.
Well, before we do that, I have

787
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:15,540
let's just play this. This is a
clip that was on from the on

788
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:20,400
point show that's on PBS about
flip floppers. They went and

789
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,860
interviewed a bunch of people

790
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Adam Curry: on the street. Man
on the street. Warning, warning.

791
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,260
Will Robinson, well, what?

792
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:30,920
John C Dvorak: We know this a
bunch of bull crap. But I just

793
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,700
want to play this because of the
middle you tell me that this

794
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:41,560
guy, that there's just some
rando, doesn't sound like walls

795
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,140
Adam Curry: second time you're
using Rando, just letting you

796
00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:44,380
know,

797
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,140
John C Dvorak: thank you. I
really like the word Rando. I

798
00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:52,540
Adam Curry: like to I like
saying hello, but I'm stopping

799
00:45:52,540 --> 00:45:54,160
myself. Well,

800
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,240
John C Dvorak: I'll minimize
random, all right, but I don't

801
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,020
know if I want to really stop it
like Hello.

802
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,360
Adam Curry: Thanks. Rub it in.
Rub it in.

803
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,820
Unknown: Brain problem,

804
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:12,300
John C Dvorak: because I'm just
listening to this. I'm what

805
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:15,900
milieu is, walls, a part of

806
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,700
Adam Curry: touchdown. Timmy,

807
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,920
John C Dvorak: except maybe I,
maybe I don't know. I just, I

808
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,100
just very skeptical about but
when I heard this, I said, Wow,

809
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,800
this guy's got he's in the same
millions. Sounds exactly the

810
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,580
same. Just play it.

811
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,820
Unknown: Who says he still needs
to know more about Kamala

812
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:32,360
Harris?

813
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:35,720
Her style is great. I just wish
I really learned more, and

814
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,720
because of that, I'm not going
to give him my full 100% because

815
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:42,160
I just have to learn more to see
how things are, you know, gonna

816
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,760
fall out with this all the vice
presidents too, yeah, if I was a

817
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,540
vice president doing the whole
thing hands down. Okay, yeah,

818
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,800
Vance scares the stuff out of
me. Wow,

819
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:56,080
John C Dvorak: am I wrong. Are

820
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,480
Adam Curry: you insinuating the
gay milieu?

821
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,240
John C Dvorak: It's a it's a
type of gay I'm unfamiliar with

822
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,340
because I'm in the San Francisco
Bay Area.

823
00:47:05,340 --> 00:47:07,860
Adam Curry: Do No, no, it's your
flamboyant gays. There's

824
00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:12,420
John C Dvorak: different gays
present as kind of, I'd say

825
00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:16,080
stereotypes. Yeah, not all of
them. Yes. I mean, there's

826
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,680
plenty of closeted gays that are
just, or not even closeted, but

827
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,780
they just act normal. But yet
the flamboyant types, yeah,

828
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,940
anyway, again, I'm sorry.

829
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,480
Adam Curry: I know, I know he's
and yes, you should be, but he

830
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,840
definitely sucks when it comes
to hunting what

831
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,700
John C Dvorak: wouldn't even
load his own gun.

832
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:40,480
Adam Curry: What was that? With
a Beretta? With a Beretta? Oh,

833
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,300
this is a Beretta. Yeah, I'll
blast them out of the sky.

834
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,540
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go
with Trump campaign. Trump. This

835
00:47:46,540 --> 00:47:50,200
is CBS reporting. There's a two
clips reporting on Trump.

836
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,700
Trump's part of the on the
campaign. It's, I want to you

837
00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:59,440
listen to the following. It's
got a negative intonation which

838
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,700
will contrast greatly with the
positive intonation they give to

839
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:03,720
Harris. I'm Norah O'Donnell.

840
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,880
Unknown: We're going to begin
tonight with the race for

841
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,520
president and new questions
about the mental health and

842
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,820
behavior of FORMER PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP, President Biden,

843
00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:14,460
campaigning for vice president
Kamala Harris on Tuesday, said

844
00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:18,120
Trump has become unhinged,
referring to a campaign event

845
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,280
this week where Trump swayed
music for 40 minutes, Trump, now

846
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,580
78 would be the oldest person to
become president, but he is

847
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:28,640
refusing to disclose his medical
records, which is something

848
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,240
presidential nominees
traditionally do in a town hall

849
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:35,180
aimed at courting women. Last
night, Trump made numerous false

850
00:48:35,180 --> 00:48:37,880
and strange statements,
including claiming to be the

851
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,560
father of in vitro
fertilization. We also have new

852
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,620
reporting tonight on the Harris
campaign, including her new

853
00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:47,860
outreach to Republicans looking
for an alternative to Trump.

854
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,220
CBS, Nicole killing is going to
lead us off with more on Donald

855
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:53,380
Trump and what his team is
saying tonight.

856
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,340
We really are the party for IVF.
We want fertilization, and it's

857
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,180
all the way

858
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:01,680
tonight, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD
TRUMP under fire after making

859
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,160
this strange claim about in
vitro fertilization to an all

860
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,020
female town hall. Oh, I

861
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:10,320
want to talk about IVF. I'm the
father of IVF. I want to hear

862
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,160
this question. He

863
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,460
made the claim less than 90
seconds before admitting Alabama

864
00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:17,160
Senator Katie Britt had
explained it to him. I said,

865
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,620
explain IVF. Very IVF, very
quickly, and within about two

866
00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:22,700
minutes, I understood it.

867
00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:28,340
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. He said he
lied. He is not a scientist. He

868
00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:32,840
didn't create IVF. He's the
father of nothing. Oh, man.

869
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,860
Okay, so this, yeah, they built
a whole story around this. Or

870
00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:37,940
tell me there's Yeah,

871
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:40,720
John C Dvorak: oh no, and
there's mostly some more. But

872
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:44,740
the fact is, they really,
they're hounding him about him

873
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:48,400
saying that, which was obviously
in, you know, wasn't serious.

874
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:48,820
But I

875
00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:52,000
Adam Curry: have to say, when I
hear them say Harris is out

876
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,680
there trying to be an
alternative that puts her in a

877
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,840
secondary position, the way they
the way they say. That Harris

878
00:50:01,980 --> 00:50:04,020
alternative. You know what I
mean?

879
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,400
John C Dvorak: I'm more along
the lines of the intonation

880
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,120
here. This is like, very
negative, oh yeah. And then when

881
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,420
we get to the the two Harris
cups, these are balanced. Let's

882
00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:17,820
go with Trump to this the second
part of this report,

883
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:20,600
Unknown: the procedure has been
around for nearly 50 years. An

884
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,480
official with the Trump campaign
told CBS News The former

885
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,540
president was simply reaffirming
his support and made the

886
00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:29,540
comments in jest, but it was no
laughing matter for his

887
00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:32,120
opponent. The Vice President
Donald Trump

888
00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:35,780
found him to be quite bizarre.
Actually, called himself the

889
00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:41,440
father of IVF, and if what he
meant is taking responsibility?

890
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:44,200
Well, then, yeah, you should
take responsibility for the fact

891
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,980
that one in three women in
America lives in a Trump

892
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,340
abortion ban state. In another
town hall geared toward Latino

893
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:54,700
voters, the former president
also resurrected debunked claims

894
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:57,940
about Haitian immigrants eating
pets, but took them a step

895
00:50:57,940 --> 00:50:58,600
further. I

896
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,140
was just saying, what was
reported that's been reported,

897
00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:05,340
and eating other things too that
they're not supposed to be but

898
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:10,620
this is all I do, is report. I
have not I was there. I'm going

899
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:13,440
to be there, and we're going to
take a look, and I'll give you a

900
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,900
full report when I do that,
along

901
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:19,260
with his recent behavior,
including dancing on stage to

902
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,080
question what she calls his
unstable behavior. Meanwhile,

903
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,960
pressure is mounting on Trump to
release his medical records,

904
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,740
after Harris released hers this
weekend, Trump told CBS two

905
00:51:30,740 --> 00:51:32,780
months ago he would make them
public. You

906
00:51:32,780 --> 00:51:36,560
are now the oldest candidate in
this race. Will you release your

907
00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:37,880
medical records? Sure

908
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:43,540
I do. I just had a medical exam,
and I had a perfect score. The

909
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,620
Trump campaign recently released
a vaguely worded letter and

910
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,800
other information from his
doctors. Meantime, the former

911
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,260
president is getting a big
fundraising boost tonight,

912
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,360
pulling in about $220 million
over the last quarter from a

913
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,700
trio of billionaire donors,
including Elon Musk, Nora,

914
00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:03,720
Nicole

915
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,700
Killian in Atlanta. Thank you
eating

916
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:09,900
Adam Curry: the dogs. I just
love that. ISO, okay, yeah. So

917
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,020
he dances on stage, which he was
doing to fill up time because

918
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:15,120
people had medical emergency.
Somebody

919
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:18,000
John C Dvorak: almost died at
the event, yeah? So

920
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,380
Adam Curry: he's like, oh, let's
just turn and they the queue was

921
00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:23,660
good. He says, let's play it
loud. And they played it right

922
00:52:23,660 --> 00:52:26,840
away. That was pretty
impressive. Someone was on the

923
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,880
mix on the wheels of steel. Good
to go

924
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:32,720
John C Dvorak: the something
else I've noticed. You notice

925
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,660
that you see this with people
that do, including certain

926
00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:39,860
podcasters that have
inappropriate laughter.

927
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:44,380
Adam Curry: Yes, many
podcasters, people that

928
00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:45,700
John C Dvorak: with
inappropriate laughter have

929
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:48,280
always been convinced have no
sense of humor, and so they

930
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,800
laugh at a lot of stuff,
thinking, Well, maybe it's

931
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,060
funny, and I better laugh,
because, you know, and Kamala

932
00:52:55,060 --> 00:53:01,200
does this, she has a that stupid
laugh. She laughs all the time,

933
00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:06,960
but she has, obviously, if you
listen to her, she has zero

934
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,000
sense of humor or even irony.
She has no none of that. She has

935
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,700
no sense of humor at all. So she
just laughs a lot and shares a

936
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:23,480
secret, yes. Okay, back to CBS,
so they've done trashing Trump

937
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,440
for being unhinged again. Yes,
this guy's been unhinged Since

938
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:27,740
2015

939
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,020
Adam Curry: How come they didn't
bring in the the enemy from

940
00:53:33,020 --> 00:53:33,560
within?

941
00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:36,920
John C Dvorak: On this report,
they didn't, for some reason, I

942
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,900
have no idea they brought they
brought it in, believe me, but

943
00:53:41,020 --> 00:53:43,660
this is now we go to campaign
Harris. Clip one.

944
00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:46,540
Unknown: Let's turn now to
battleground Pennsylvania, where

945
00:53:46,540 --> 00:53:49,780
vice president Kamala Harris
launched a new push today to win

946
00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:52,660
the support of Republicans,
including with an interview on

947
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:55,900
Fox News where she said, If
elected, her presidency would

948
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:59,380
not be a continuation of Joe
Biden's. We get more now from

949
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:00,580
CBS. Robert Costa,

950
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,980
I am joined today by over 100
Republican leaders,

951
00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:08,340
with current and former
Republican officials on hand.

952
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:11,940
Vice President Harris lambasted
former President Donald Trump

953
00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:16,260
for saying, If elected, he would
take on the quote enemy within.

954
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:16,500
He

955
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:22,160
says that as Commander in Chief,
he would use our military to go

956
00:54:22,220 --> 00:54:29,000
after them honestly, let that in
use of the American military

957
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,480
after American citizens.

958
00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:35,840
HARRIS also asked the crowd to
consider comments from former

959
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,240
Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark
Milley Donald

960
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:42,340
Trump's top general. He has
called Trump, and I quote,

961
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:50,500
fascist to the core. And said,
quote, no one has ever been as

962
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:52,900
dangerous to this country.

963
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,220
Adam Curry: Mark Milley, who
forced covid shots on his

964
00:54:57,220 --> 00:55:00,720
troops. He's now he's hated. He.
Let's,

965
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:05,040
John C Dvorak: let's go back to
what she just said, quote,

966
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:12,360
quote, quote. She's not quoting
Mark Milley, no, she's quoting

967
00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:16,920
Woodward's book. Yes, yes, good
point. It's secondhand

968
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,020
information. Woodward says he
said this, but the way she

969
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:26,180
presents it is, Oh, Mark Milley
said, quote, no, he didn't. He

970
00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:28,940
hasn't denied it. He said it
Good point, good

971
00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:30,020
Adam Curry: point, fair point.
But

972
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:34,580
John C Dvorak: this is like a
and and CBS said nothing, no, it

973
00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:37,400
was pointed out in other
reports. And Fox said, when they

974
00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:42,040
played some of this, they they
mentioned that this is a quote

975
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,820
from the Woodward book, which
you've already we've debunked

976
00:55:45,820 --> 00:55:50,020
partly in the last show Yes,
with our note from the guy who

977
00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:55,300
sells PCR machines, yes, and
Russia always had them, and so

978
00:55:55,660 --> 00:56:00,900
Trump wasn't sending them to
Russia. That was bull crap. So I

979
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:02,820
think the whole book may be a
fraud.

980
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,580
Unknown: No, no,

981
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:11,040
Adam Curry: it's not what
gambling. It's not so, hmm,

982
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,340
okay. You mean the book that
comes out just in time and is

983
00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:19,320
really about Joe Biden, Joe
Biden, but the very insulin

984
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:23,720
Trump, left and right? Trump,
yes. Oh, okay. Do you think it's

985
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:27,500
possible, at this point that
people at CBS and with all of

986
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:33,140
this noise, certainly from, you
know, the media about this enemy

987
00:56:33,140 --> 00:56:37,220
from within, you've heard waltz
coming after journalists. Do you

988
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:41,320
think that people within these
organizations might actually

989
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,640
start to believe this?

990
00:56:45,580 --> 00:56:49,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so.
They're already lost very they

991
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:51,940
could easily believe it. But the
other hand, if you're going to

992
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:54,400
go on your thesis that we have
one more clip to play, we're

993
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,360
going to go on your thesis that
the whole thing is designed to

994
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,940
put Trump in office, doesn't
this idea that the American

995
00:57:00,940 --> 00:57:03,660
military is going to go after
the Republic? After the Republic

996
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:06,420
creating a danger and Trump's
dangerous, dangerous, dangerous,

997
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,680
is a reflection of your basic
thesis that you love to bring up

998
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,240
about the cigarette packs.

999
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,000
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, the more
danger, the better it is. Vote

1000
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,120
for him. He's dangerous. Smoke
this. It'll kill you. Hmm,

1001
00:57:21,140 --> 00:57:23,660
that's scientifically proven
that the I

1002
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:26,480
John C Dvorak: mean, is that in
play, that that that's a

1003
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,740
possibility with I'm

1004
00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:30,680
Adam Curry: with you on that. I
mean, I've said from way back,

1005
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,300
they want you since

1006
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,220
John C Dvorak: you've been
saying this for the all, ever

1007
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:35,900
since I've known you, what

1008
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:38,660
Adam Curry: they No, no. What
I'm saying is they want him to

1009
00:57:38,660 --> 00:57:39,800
win. They want him in

1010
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,960
John C Dvorak: No, I'm Yes, you.
They wanted to win the cigarette

1011
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,440
things. Let

1012
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,360
Adam Curry: me just thing. The
ship is sinking, put the Orange

1013
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,740
Man on the bridge. Let me. Let
me just review this study showed

1014
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:55,000
that in this was mainly in the
UK and in the Netherlands. I

1015
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,880
know that they did that as well.
On cigarette packs. They would

1016
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:03,000
put horrible pictures of black
lungs and people with holes in

1017
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,360
their throats and and people
would buy these packs and go,

1018
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,840
Hey, I'll trade you a black lung
for a hole in the throat. And

1019
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,080
they loved it. They were buying
more cigarettes than ever. And

1020
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,780
of course, these the tobacco
companies like, oh, let's do

1021
00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:19,020
more of this. So distinct
possibility.

1022
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:21,620
John C Dvorak: I was taking it.
I took a trip to Europe one year

1023
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,000
when this was in play, because
they was, they never did this

1024
00:58:26,060 --> 00:58:29,300
here. They just had the warning
label. They never put horrible

1025
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:34,220
pictures. And I saw these
pictures, my God, it was good.

1026
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:36,740
It was like, I guess it was
like, trading cards,

1027
00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:39,560
Adam Curry: yeah. But yeah,
people were trading them out. It

1028
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,540
was a big joke.

1029
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,840
John C Dvorak: So here's the
second half of the Harris

1030
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:47,980
analysis from CBS. But again,
it's, it's interesting. It's

1031
00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:50,980
couch in a very positive way
that Trump steps in a negative

1032
00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:54,580
way. I mean, maybe it's the
idea, is just the I don't know,

1033
00:58:54,580 --> 00:58:58,300
but it let's play this and
figure it out.

1034
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,380
Unknown: Today's rally was in
Bucks County, a key suburban

1035
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:04,620
Philadelphia battleground where
the campaign hopes to peel off

1036
00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:07,320
Republican voters, especially
women. I

1037
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,040
urge you to make the
conservative choice. Vote for

1038
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,240
our bedrock values and vote for
Kamala Harris. We

1039
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:15,780
spoke to

1040
00:59:15,780 --> 00:59:20,220
longtime national GOP strategist
Jennifer Horne now beckenharris,

1041
00:59:20,340 --> 00:59:23,120
if there is an issue that's
flipping women towards vice

1042
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,440
president Harris, what is it?

1043
00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:29,660
It's definitely the overturn of
Roe v Wade, and not just because

1044
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:32,720
it's about abortion, but because
it's an attack on women's

1045
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,900
rights, on women's autonomy. In
that

1046
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:39,320
rare Fox News interview tonight,
Harris said definitively that

1047
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,160
she would be a different
president than Joe Biden. Let me

1048
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,000
be very clear, my presidency
will not be a continuation of

1049
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,620
Joe Biden's presidency, and like
every new president that comes

1050
00:59:50,620 --> 00:59:55,060
in to office, I will bring my
life experiences, my

1051
00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:58,600
professional experiences, and
fresh and new ideas. I represent

1052
00:59:58,600 --> 00:59:59,920
a new generation of leadership.

1053
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,200
While there is energy here in
the suburbs today, Democrats

1054
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,740
privately tell CBS News they're
concerned about the energy in

1055
01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:10,500
the city of Philadelphia, and
want to make sure those core

1056
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:14,880
democratic voters are ready to
turn out in November. Nora,

1057
01:00:15,660 --> 01:00:16,200
yeah,

1058
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,780
Adam Curry: yeah. No. There was
very difference in tone, but I'm

1059
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,920
not surprised. I mean, the
entire media is against Trump,

1060
01:00:21,980 --> 01:00:25,940
including Fox News. If you
really analyze it, I'm

1061
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,880
John C Dvorak: gonna not Yes.
This is another thesis that I

1062
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,840
have to agree with.

1063
01:00:30,140 --> 01:00:33,140
Adam Curry: So I want to play a
couple things here. Season of

1064
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:37,580
reveal Bill Clinton confirms,
and not only confirms it. This

1065
01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:40,900
is what the New York Bankers
always said, immigration, back

1066
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:44,740
to this immigration? Yes,
immigration is good. We need it.

1067
01:00:44,740 --> 01:00:48,040
We need them. We need to open
these borders. Not only did he

1068
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,520
confirm this thesis, he used the
R word

1069
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,380
Unknown: a new direction to
manage an immigration crisis in

1070
01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:59,500
a tough time where there's all
this upheaval all over the

1071
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,880
world, where there are border
problems all over the world,

1072
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,360
where millions of people are
trying to escape the misery

1073
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,860
they're in, and other people are
saying, well, I want to do what

1074
01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:13,380
I can and take what I can, but
maybe there's a limit to how

1075
01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:18,120
much we can do. In other words,
I don't think Americans are anti

1076
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:24,380
immigration. They're anti chaos.
They don't want us to lose more

1077
01:01:24,380 --> 01:01:30,500
than we can, but they recognize
least most people do. We got the

1078
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:36,260
lowest birth rate we've had in
well over 100 years. We're not

1079
01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:40,160
at replacement level, which
means we got to have somebody

1080
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,260
come here if we want to keep
growing the economy, unless one

1081
01:01:44,260 --> 01:01:47,860
of you is one of these
artificial intelligence geniuses

1082
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,800
figured out how we can all grow
with no work.

1083
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,400
Adam Curry: No. Thank you. Bill,
yeah, we're not at replacement

1084
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,480
level yet. These borders have
got to open them back up again,

1085
01:01:58,660 --> 01:02:02,580
replacement. We need
replacement. It's disgusting.

1086
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,920
More reveal, and I love this.
The Aurora city council had a

1087
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,100
little meeting, and exactly what
we've been saying about this

1088
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:15,300
entire immigration scam, which
really is much more a legal

1089
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:21,740
human trafficking scam with huge
non governmental organizations

1090
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:27,200
and nonprofits, many of them
faith based, making tons of

1091
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,080
money off over placement,
placement of newcomers.

1092
01:02:33,260 --> 01:02:35,960
Unknown: We just need to retrace
our steps and find out what

1093
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,020
happened. We need to make sure
it never happens again.

1094
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,220
We not know the Aurora City
Council moving forward with a

1095
01:02:42,220 --> 01:02:46,120
proposal to investigate which
nonprofits the state and city of

1096
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,240
Denver worked with to relocate
immigrants to Aurora. Now the

1097
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,660
city of Denver says it did not
send any immigrants to Aurora.

1098
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:56,440
This proposal passed Council 62
and council members say the

1099
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,260
purpose is to learn how many
people were sent to Aurora, what

1100
01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:02,160
promises, if any, were made to
them, and whether background

1101
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,120
checks were conducted,

1102
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,420
whether it's the city, county,
Denver, whether it's the state,

1103
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,700
should not impact a local
jurisdiction without, even

1104
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:14,700
without, at least informing that
jurisdiction what they're doing.

1105
01:03:15,060 --> 01:03:19,440
They did not, they did not, and
they use nonprofits as a

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,020
mechanism to do this.

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01:03:21,740 --> 01:03:24,380
Adam Curry: Now the two members
who voted against it say this is

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01:03:24,380 --> 01:03:27,980
going to put vulnerable groups
at risk. Now we also asked the

1109
01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:30,680
governor's office if the state
sent immigrants to Aurora. We

1110
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,740
have not gotten a response to
that question. Of course they

1111
01:03:33,740 --> 01:03:38,720
did. Of course they did. This is
the whole scam nonprofits. That

1112
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,580
is, that is the biggest scam
that we need to clean up all

1113
01:03:42,580 --> 01:03:45,760
this money that Congress
approves, which goes to these

1114
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,840
cut out nonprofits and NGOs, and
they do all the dirty work. They

1115
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,780
do all the dirty work. And we've
been talking about this for a

1116
01:03:52,780 --> 01:03:54,220
long time now, at

1117
01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:56,500
John C Dvorak: least over a
decade. So

1118
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,780
Adam Curry: Trump, the most
impressive stuff he's done is

1119
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:07,860
you really have to sit down and
watch it. He did the Chicago

1120
01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:11,640
Economic Club. He did the
Detroit Economic Club. He did

1121
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:17,340
the Bloomberg sit down
interview. He's his ideas about

1122
01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:24,200
tariffs and in essence, taking
China's playbook and saying,

1123
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,760
Okay, 200% tariffs, but you want
zero tariffs, then just build

1124
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,180
your factories here in the
United States. And he has, he

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01:04:32,180 --> 01:04:35,900
has good answers for a lot of
these things, good answers. And

1126
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:40,960
so I'm not going to play a whole
bunch of things from, you know,

1127
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,300
from the actual speech, you have
to go and watch it. You have to

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01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:46,300
spend the time because of the
weave. You know, the weave, the

1129
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:49,180
weave makes it impossible to
clip Trump. It really does make

1130
01:04:49,180 --> 01:04:51,760
it impossible to clip him. It
does. It's actually makes him

1131
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,320
less clippable. Very, yes, very
much. So, so here is a little

1132
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,920
clip of him at the with the
editor in chief of Bloomberg.

1133
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,300
Who hates Trump, John, that
guy's a dick off weight and a

1134
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:09,960
British dick. Trump just ran
circles around him the whole

1135
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:10,140
time.

1136
01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:12,600
Unknown: Yes, you're going to
find some people who would gain

1137
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,500
from individual tariffs. The
overall effect could be massive.

1138
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,820
I agree it's going

1139
01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:21,560
to have a massive effect,
positive effect, it's going to

1140
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:27,560
be a positive, not a negative.
You are to this, and it must be

1141
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,440
hard for you to spend 25 years
talking about tariffs as

1142
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,320
negative, and then have somebody
explain to you that you're

1143
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,820
totally wrong. It'll have a

1144
01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:43,360
negative. It will have 40
million jobs. There's a lot of

1145
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,080
jobs to rely on. They're all
coming back jobs. Those are 40

1146
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,740
million jobs in America that
rely on. Ready.

1147
01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:54,520
John Deere, great company. They
announced about a year ago

1148
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,120
they're going to build big
plants outside of the United

1149
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,580
States, right? They're going to
build them in Mexico and youth

1150
01:06:00,580 --> 01:06:04,080
freshmen. They're also, that's
right. I said, if John Deere

1151
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,900
builds those plants and not
selling anything into the United

1152
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,660
States, they just announced
yesterday they're probably not

1153
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:12,780
going to build the plants. Okay,
I kept the jobs. Jobs here.

1154
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,360
Adam Curry: Now. You made an
excellent point a couple of

1155
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:19,620
weeks back. You said, how can he
do this? We have the usmca, the

1156
01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:24,500
United States, Mexico, Canada
agreement. How can he sit there

1157
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:28,100
and say, I'm going to put these
huge tariffs on anything coming

1158
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:32,780
in from Mexico? And at the time,
I was like, Yeah, you make a

1159
01:06:32,780 --> 01:06:35,900
good point there. How is he
going to do that? He actually

1160
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:39,680
explained this at the Detroit
Economic Club. And

1161
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,360
Unknown: to that end, I'm
announcing today that upon

1162
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,980
taking office, I will formally
notify Mexico and Canada of my

1163
01:06:47,980 --> 01:06:53,080
intention to invoke the six year
renegotiation provisions of the

1164
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,900
usmca that I put in. That was
the hardest thing I had to get.

1165
01:06:55,900 --> 01:07:00,540
They didn't want that. They
wanted to have it, but I wanted

1166
01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:03,960
to, because there's always like,
little tricks they want to play.

1167
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,320
I said, Nope, I want to be able
to renegotiate in six years.

1168
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,540
Otherwise, we're not making the
deal. And I got it, and it's

1169
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:15,120
coming due very soon. I'm going
to have a lot of fun, and that

1170
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,680
will address these concerns and
also seek strong new protections

1171
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,180
against transshipment, so that
China and other countries cannot

1172
01:07:23,180 --> 01:07:26,240
smuggle their products and auto
parts into the United States

1173
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:31,580
factory through Mexico, to the
detriment of our workers and our

1174
01:07:31,580 --> 01:07:32,720
supply chains. So

1175
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,660
Adam Curry: this is really
interesting, because when this

1176
01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:39,680
clause was put in, of course, at
the table, everyone was like,

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01:07:39,740 --> 01:07:42,700
Okay, do whatever. If, even if
you get a second term, we won't

1178
01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:46,000
have to deal with you when this
renegotiation comes up, because

1179
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,540
it comes up in 2026 I read under
the United States, Mexico,

1180
01:07:49,540 --> 01:07:53,560
Canada Agreement Review clause
on July 1, 2026 the US, Mexico

1181
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,380
and Canada will confirm in
writing whether or not to

1182
01:07:56,380 --> 01:07:58,960
continue the agreement. If one
or more of the three parties

1183
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,220
decide to make the step of not
renewing the agreement, it will

1184
01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:05,640
kick off a process that will
leave the future of the usmca in

1185
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,880
a state of uncertainty for years
to come. That is unless the

1186
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,000
objecting party or parties
change their mind, even though

1187
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,340
the six year review is still
more than two years away at the

1188
01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:17,460
time of this writing from I
forget which think tank it was,

1189
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:20,420
the uncertainty provided by the
review clause is already a

1190
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,600
significant preoccupation for
business communities in all

1191
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,200
three countries he's claiming.
And I tend to believe him that

1192
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:32,060
he put that in. I believe him. I
believe that's fantastic. That's

1193
01:08:32,060 --> 01:08:32,120
a

1194
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,040
John C Dvorak: fabulous idea,
yeah,

1195
01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:37,700
Adam Curry: and now it comes due
as it's a poison pill. Yeah,

1196
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,200
poison pill. That's exactly
right. And he's really

1197
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,860
interesting in these economic
club interviews. I mean, I was

1198
01:08:44,860 --> 01:08:48,100
listening to another one. It was
a, actually, was a seat. He was

1199
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,160
just, oh, he was talking about
the Boeing plane, you know,

1200
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,360
about the Air Force One, and how
they came in 5.7 billion. He

1201
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,360
said it to the guy said, no, no,
I won a three in that number.

1202
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,840
And you come back when you got a
three, and he says, and the best

1203
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,060
way to get the price down is not
call them back. And, you know,

1204
01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:06,900
he got the done. He said, You
know, these deals that are done

1205
01:09:06,900 --> 01:09:09,960
by people, very stupid people,
or they're corrupt. And he says,

1206
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,900
I think they're corrupt. They
must all be taking kickbacks.

1207
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:18,420
And that's what he does. He does
deals, and it's not hard. It's

1208
01:09:18,420 --> 01:09:22,940
just don't be corrupt. The deals
aren't that hard to do. Here's

1209
01:09:23,659 --> 01:09:25,939
John C Dvorak: and by the way, I
want to remind you what was

1210
01:09:25,939 --> 01:09:28,879
brought up at the beginning of
the show, Raytheon to pay nearly

1211
01:09:28,879 --> 01:09:32,899
1 billion for defrauding DoD
allegedly bribing Qatari

1212
01:09:32,899 --> 01:09:34,759
official. That's corruption,
yes,

1213
01:09:35,540 --> 01:09:37,700
Adam Curry: but that's not how
it plays on ABC Good Morning

1214
01:09:37,700 --> 01:09:39,320
America. Former President Trump

1215
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,380
Unknown: was in Chicago
yesterday the Economic Club

1216
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:44,560
repeating false claims about the
January 6 election, refusing to

1217
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,460
say whether he spoken to spoken
of Vladimir Putin since he left

1218
01:09:48,460 --> 01:09:51,160
office. Chief Washington
correspondent John Carl has the

1219
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,240
details. Good morning. John,

1220
01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:55,780
good morning, George, in his
interview before the Economic

1221
01:09:55,780 --> 01:09:59,920
Club of Chicago, Donald Trump
referred to January 6, the day.

1222
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,560
When his supporters attacked the
US Capitol in an effort to stop

1223
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,060
the certification of Joe Biden's
2020, election victory as quote,

1224
01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:13,740
a day of love and peace, as to
whether he would commit to a

1225
01:10:13,740 --> 01:10:17,520
peaceful transfer of power after
this election, Donald Trump

1226
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,500
pointed to the last one,
insisting it was peaceful, and

1227
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:25,820
bizarrely saying January 6 was a
day of love and peace, and

1228
01:10:25,820 --> 01:10:29,840
falsely saying the police
invited the rioters into the

1229
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,880
Capitol building. There was love

1230
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,560
show that falsely, falsely,

1231
01:10:36,620 --> 01:10:40,240
some people went to the capitol
and a lot of strange things

1232
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,600
happened. There a lot of strange
things, with people being waved

1233
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,700
into the Capitol by police, with
people screaming go in with that

1234
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,200
never got into trouble.

1235
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,500
The reality nearly 500 people
have been charged with

1236
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,340
assaulting police officers on
January 6, nearly half of them

1237
01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:01,080
pleading guilty or being
convicted at trial. The former

1238
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,740
president also defended his plan
to impose new tariffs on

1239
01:11:04,740 --> 01:11:07,200
products imported into the
United States that

1240
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,260
is going to push up the cost for
all those people who want to buy

1241
01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:13,560
foreign goods to simple
mathematics President

1242
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,620
Trump, it's not yet, is, but not
the way you figured. I was

1243
01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:18,180
always very good at mathematics.

1244
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,280
Adam Curry: So, I mean, I I
would say to everyone, go take a

1245
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,400
look at those, those hour long
talks, or hour and a half,

1246
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,060
they're pretty good. He's saying
some sensible stuff there. And

1247
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:32,000
for those who don't understand
the weave, why it's hard to

1248
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,840
clip, Trump goes off on these
tangents. Then he talks about

1249
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,580
all kinds of different stuff.
And then he

1250
01:11:37,580 --> 01:11:39,500
John C Dvorak: brings
everything, yeah, everything's a

1251
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:41,320
shaggy dog story, yeah, but

1252
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,680
Adam Curry: very long. And then
he brings it back to the answer,

1253
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,280
and he calls it the weave. I
call it the weave, and it's

1254
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,460
horrible, for the show is
horrible. And if he becomes

1255
01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:55,480
president, I am going to call
him on it. One more from John

1256
01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:59,320
Carl, because, of course, we
can't leave out the enemy from

1257
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,360
within. And John,

1258
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,760
Unknown: the closer we get the
election. The president's former

1259
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,640
president rhetoric taking an
even darker turn. He's calling

1260
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,460
his Democratic opponents the
enemy within, promising to

1261
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:11,700
prosecute them, even suggesting
turning the military on them.

1262
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:13,200
George

1263
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,160
Trump has continued to refer to
his political opponents as the

1264
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,260
enemy within, saying they the
pose threat to the country, his

1265
01:12:21,260 --> 01:12:23,180
Adam Curry: political opponents.
Do you hear this

1266
01:12:23,180 --> 01:12:26,960
John C Dvorak: a lie? Yeah, John
Carl is a liar. He's this is the

1267
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:32,420
three networks are just filled
with these people that are they

1268
01:12:32,420 --> 01:12:34,520
have to know they're lying, or
they're just

1269
01:12:34,940 --> 01:12:38,900
Adam Curry: delusional. Yeah, I
think that they don't even look

1270
01:12:38,900 --> 01:12:42,400
at the interview. You know, I
showed it to Tina, and I showed

1271
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,840
her the she actually got it
right, right off the bat. She's

1272
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,620
like, Oh, that's Antifa. She got
it correct, right off the bat.

1273
01:12:50,620 --> 01:12:53,860
It took me a second to say, is
he talking about immigrants or

1274
01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:57,700
what is he talking about? But
if, if, if the word is just out

1275
01:12:57,700 --> 01:13:01,260
there, this is the milieu. The
word is out the word is, he said

1276
01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:06,120
this very fine people, you know,
bloodbath, I think they believe

1277
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,360
it. That's another one. Yeah,
they believe it. And they just

1278
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,380
run with it. And the Masters
behind the scenes, whoever it

1279
01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:18,660
is, Obama, they got to talk to
him, about him in a second too.

1280
01:13:19,020 --> 01:13:21,800
They just run with it. Run with
it. Run with Oh, we got

1281
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,600
something. Let's just go with
this. Trump has

1282
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,960
Unknown: continued to refer to
his political opponents as the

1283
01:13:27,020 --> 01:13:30,860
enemy within, saying they pose
more of a threat to the country

1284
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,400
than criminals illegally
crossing the border or Russia or

1285
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,700
China. In fact, this is
something that he has continued

1286
01:13:37,700 --> 01:13:41,680
to do, even yesterday, in a town
hall meeting in Georgia, he said

1287
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,700
this quote, we have China, we
have Russia, we have all these

1288
01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:49,180
countries. If you have a smart
president, they can be handled.

1289
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,020
The more difficult are, you
know, the Pelosi, these people,

1290
01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:56,380
they're so sick, they're so
evil. That's the way he's

1291
01:13:56,380 --> 01:13:58,840
talking about his political
opponents. He's repeated

1292
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,920
it. And again, this is
absolutely unprecedented in

1293
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,740
American history talking about
using the military in this way.

1294
01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:06,240
John Paul, thanks very much with

1295
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,880
Adam Curry: with the Clinton
Easter, they're doing the, doing

1296
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,540
the the alley oop. It's
unbelievable. No, it's not. I

1297
01:14:12,540 --> 01:14:14,760
mean, why am I unprecedented?

1298
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,720
John C Dvorak: Is bull crap? No,
of course. But I mean, these

1299
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,620
people are just lying. It's
like, it's great, it's

1300
01:14:21,620 --> 01:14:25,280
Adam Curry: great for the show.
So then, well, you know, and I

1301
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,400
think I might have to do an
emergency pod with the MO, an

1302
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,600
emergency pod. He needs to do an
emergency pod. Mo, emergency

1303
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,920
emergency pod, because now it's
come down to the black men. It's

1304
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,660
come down to the black men. And
somehow Kamala Harris thinks

1305
01:14:40,660 --> 01:14:43,420
black men want to this is only
what I've heard. I haven't seen

1306
01:14:43,420 --> 01:14:48,520
the written policy, but the meme
that's out there is legalized

1307
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,560
marijuana because black men love
lead.

1308
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,260
John C Dvorak: By the way, this
idea of, I can't imagine being a

1309
01:14:56,260 --> 01:15:01,380
black guy and having this, the
notion. And that you'll be

1310
01:15:01,380 --> 01:15:05,040
satisfied with everything,
you'll be back in the fold of

1311
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,580
the Democrat party if they
legalize. We because you're a

1312
01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:10,980
bunch of stoner losers.

1313
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,720
Adam Curry: I mean, again, I
haven't seen the written policy.

1314
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,380
I'm going to read it because
there's also something about

1315
01:15:19,380 --> 01:15:22,580
crypto. We're going to protect
black men from crypto? Okay? All

1316
01:15:22,580 --> 01:15:24,680
right, all right. All right.
Scary crypto.

1317
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,480
John C Dvorak: No, not from
crypto.

1318
01:15:26,540 --> 01:15:32,420
Adam Curry: No, it. I've heard
analysis of it, and there is the

1319
01:15:32,420 --> 01:15:36,620
analysis from the Bitcoin
community, at least, is black

1320
01:15:36,620 --> 01:15:42,520
men get scammed by crypto scams
more than white men. Yeah, it's,

1321
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,520
it's more like that than we're
gonna what we're gonna buy

1322
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,700
Bitcoin for you. What is it? No,
no, no, my

1323
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:52,000
John C Dvorak: understanding,
from the other from, from not

1324
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,480
that perspective, not the
Bitcoin community, if you're

1325
01:15:55,480 --> 01:16:01,860
such a thing, no, is that it was
to protect the crypto situation

1326
01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:05,220
in general, because blacks, for
some reason, I don't know how

1327
01:16:05,220 --> 01:16:08,400
this. Don't know how to buy
bitcoin. No, they're all in on

1328
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,060
Bitcoin.

1329
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:13,140
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, no, I
don't think so. They should be.

1330
01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:15,060
John C Dvorak: I don't think so
either. They should be, but they

1331
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:18,120
are in on pot. They all need to
be stoned. And then

1332
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,220
Adam Curry: the third me a
brand, the third one was gonna

1333
01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:24,680
give $20,000 forgivable loans to
black entrepreneurs. That's

1334
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,360
illegal in America. That's just,

1335
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:29,960
John C Dvorak: she can't do
that. It is illegal. It's

1336
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:30,440
illegal.

1337
01:16:31,820 --> 01:16:35,120
Adam Curry: So this is what mo
would call the Boulet phone.

1338
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:40,220
Call the Boulet phone rang the
Boulay is the, I don't even

1339
01:16:40,220 --> 01:16:44,320
heard him talk about it. But
that is the the Illuminati, the

1340
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,680
black Illuminati, Charlemagne,
the God gets calls from them all

1341
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,880
the time. Who sets them
straight? And this is I forget

1342
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:57,220
this actor, I forget his name,
black actor, and he spoke out

1343
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:03,360
against Obama the way Obama was
talking to the black men and

1344
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,500
whoops, former

1345
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:07,980
Unknown: President Obama struck
a national nerve when he said

1346
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:09,960
this about black men. You're
coming

1347
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,440
up with all kinds of reasons and
excuses not speaking to men

1348
01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:18,240
directly. Part of it makes me
think that, well, you just

1349
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,440
aren't feeling the idea of
having a woman as president,

1350
01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:21,800
Wendell

1351
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,800
Pierce, who is still with us at
the table, says that Obama is

1352
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,220
wrong, and he tweeted this.
Initially, the party has to stop

1353
01:17:28,220 --> 01:17:32,300
scapegoating black men. Black
men are not the problem. And

1354
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:35,180
then there was a phone call. So
what happened? Well,

1355
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,020
I've known the president for
years now. Obama called him on

1356
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:44,860
it, and mutual contact. You
know, said that we he wanted to

1357
01:17:44,860 --> 01:17:50,020
speak. I want to speak to him. I
didn't offer it as a criticism.

1358
01:17:50,020 --> 01:17:55,120
For me, it was nothing more than
strategists in a room saying,

1359
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,500
Hey, what is the best messaging
for black men? I have focused

1360
01:17:59,500 --> 01:18:03,300
the past six weeks of going
around, going around the country

1361
01:18:03,420 --> 01:18:07,440
with a barbershop campaign,
right going to barbershops to

1362
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:10,680
talk to black men. Since I heard
this is probably the right way

1363
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,520
to do it, every election cycle,
they always say that black men

1364
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,420
are siphoned off. And I found
the most effective way to

1365
01:18:18,420 --> 01:18:22,940
communicate to the to the men in
those gatherings was saying,

1366
01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:27,140
What do you want? Vote for what
you want, declare what your

1367
01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:30,560
values are, and then go out and
make the choice on that. Don't

1368
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,160
consider my candidate, well,
that's wrong. Or the other

1369
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,220
candidate, vote for what you
want. And I found it to be

1370
01:18:37,220 --> 01:18:39,200
effective. What they would say
is, what are you doing here?

1371
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,100
This is the first time someone
came and asked that of me, and

1372
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:46,180
so I was saying, simply, that's
not the way to get to folks.

1373
01:18:46,180 --> 01:18:48,880
What I've experienced in the
past six weeks is, in fact,

1374
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,240
folks want to see what have you
delivered? Did he acknowledge

1375
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,720
that it was not delivered the
right way?

1376
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,980
No, we actually didn't get into

1377
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:05,160
Adam Curry: it. Just went on and
on and on and on. So Obama's out

1378
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,660
there calling the black actors,
hey, get on board. Get on get on

1379
01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:16,980
the ship. And then Kamala on
Charlemagne. Then, this is a big

1380
01:19:16,980 --> 01:19:19,740
one that I learned from mo this.
And this stood out. We've talked

1381
01:19:19,740 --> 01:19:23,240
about this on the show so many
times, reparations, my question

1382
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,020
to you is, and by the way, every
white person who posted about

1383
01:19:27,020 --> 01:19:30,200
this misinterpreted the real
gaffe that she made. My question

1384
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,980
Unknown: to you is, What's your
stance on reparations? We all

1385
01:19:33,980 --> 01:19:38,180
know that America became great.
You know, off the backs of free

1386
01:19:38,180 --> 01:19:44,380
black labor, how progressive Are
you on making it a priority and

1387
01:19:44,380 --> 01:19:48,040
right in America's wrongs is
understood that you are running

1388
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:52,360
for president for all people of
America. Asking for specifics

1389
01:19:52,660 --> 01:19:56,800
for black communities doesn't
mean no don't do for others, but

1390
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,660
black Americans are heavily
asked to vote Democrat. Every

1391
01:20:00,660 --> 01:20:05,100
election for over half a century
with very little in return. What

1392
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:09,300
are your plans to address these
very important issues and change

1393
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:09,900
that narrative?

1394
01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:11,460
Adam Curry: Maggie z,

1395
01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:13,740
Unknown: I appreciate that.
Thank you and thank you for your

1396
01:20:13,740 --> 01:20:19,740
work. So to your point, yes, I
am running to be a president for

1397
01:20:19,740 --> 01:20:26,420
all Americans. That being said,
I do have clear eyes about the

1398
01:20:26,420 --> 01:20:30,860
disparities that exist and the
context in which they exist,

1399
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:36,140
meaning history to your point.
So my agenda, well, first of

1400
01:20:36,140 --> 01:20:38,180
all, on the point of
reparations, it has to be

1401
01:20:38,180 --> 01:20:40,100
studied. There's no question
about that.

1402
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:45,160
Adam Curry: We've done a million
studies. It has

1403
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,360
John C Dvorak: to be studied
more. It's

1404
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,640
Adam Curry: always a study. They
never say, oh, yeah,

1405
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,720
reparations, no, oh, we got to
do a study. That's what Maxine

1406
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,020
Waters, did? They all do
studies, and no black man is

1407
01:20:56,020 --> 01:20:58,240
going to fall for that nonsense
anymore. Well,

1408
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,080
John C Dvorak: not anymore, no,
maybe after the first time. I

1409
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,520
mean, you

1410
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,520
Adam Curry: listen to our black
brothers and they say, Hey, you

1411
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,040
know, we thought Obama would do
right by us, because at least he

1412
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,620
had Michelle. You know, we knew
he wasn't black when Michelle's

1413
01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:13,860
black. And then, all right, oh,
don't worry, we'll get you in

1414
01:21:13,860 --> 01:21:18,000
the second term. And then we got
to gender neutral bathrooms. So

1415
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:19,260
No, no,

1416
01:21:19,260 --> 01:21:21,800
John C Dvorak: that's what it
amounted to, right. The entire

1417
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:26,180
Obama administration amounted to
gender gender neutral bathrooms

1418
01:21:26,180 --> 01:21:28,520
in North Carolina, of all
places.

1419
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,160
Adam Curry: And now, I hate to
do it, but there's been a

1420
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,280
redefinition of a word that
needs to be discussed. I will

1421
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,680
play the trigger warnings.
Everybody is aware that it's

1422
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:37,220
happening. At

1423
01:21:37,220 --> 01:21:41,200
Unknown: the tone a clip from
the view will be played, shelter

1424
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:41,920
in place.

1425
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,940
All right, let's talk about
fascism for a second. Okay, this

1426
01:21:45,940 --> 01:21:49,900
is a definition. Is defined as a
political movement that embraces

1427
01:21:49,900 --> 01:21:53,560
the far right nationalism and
the forceful suppression of any

1428
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,340
opposition.

1429
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,080
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me?

1430
01:21:57,820 --> 01:22:00,180
John C Dvorak: The far right?
Second or third time, they've

1431
01:22:00,180 --> 01:22:01,740
redefined a word. I

1432
01:22:01,740 --> 01:22:03,960
Adam Curry: mean, I'm gonna read
from the most redefined

1433
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,620
dictionary there is, which is
Merriam Webster,

1434
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,220
John C Dvorak: a population
definition at the drop of a hat,

1435
01:22:11,220 --> 01:22:13,320
sometimes overnight, a

1436
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,680
Adam Curry: populist political
philosophy, movement or regime

1437
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,420
that exalts nation and often
race above the individual, that

1438
01:22:20,420 --> 01:22:23,120
is associated with the
centralized, autocratic

1439
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,420
government headed by a
dictatorial leader, and is

1440
01:22:26,420 --> 01:22:30,740
characterized by severe economic
and social regimentation and by

1441
01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:34,340
forcible suppression of
opposition. Somehow that has

1442
01:22:34,340 --> 01:22:36,320
become the far right. Let's talk

1443
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,540
Unknown: about fascism. Okay,
this definition is defined as a

1444
01:22:40,540 --> 01:22:43,600
political movement that embrace
embraces the far right

1445
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,200
nationalism and the forceful
suppression of any opposition,

1446
01:22:48,340 --> 01:22:51,160
all overseen by an authoritarian
government.

1447
01:22:51,580 --> 01:22:55,000
Adam Curry: I mean, this is
these. These people are crazy,

1448
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,200
crazy. They just make it up. By
the way, I'm surprised that I

1449
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,180
refresh the page and it didn't
say that today. That could have

1450
01:23:03,180 --> 01:23:07,020
easily happened. Oh, oh well,
it's been redefined now by the

1451
01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:09,720
view. So we've got to change
that. Oh, yeah, gotta change

1452
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:16,080
that. Ah, anyway, Trump is going
to win this election. They want

1453
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,960
him to win this election.
Everything points towards it.

1454
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,200
Stop being all spun up. If

1455
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,260
John C Dvorak: you want sinking
is the is your is the best thing

1456
01:23:24,260 --> 01:23:25,460
you've played for months.

1457
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,320
Adam Curry: Yes, why would you
invite that guy up on the

1458
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,520
bridge? Because it must be
sinking. Yes, yes, be safe. Must

1459
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:40,300
be sinking. Yeah, it's just,
it's just, it's just nuts. Well,

1460
01:23:40,300 --> 01:23:46,660
John C Dvorak: I have two clips
about the Ethel Kennedy died.

1461
01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:47,320
Yes,

1462
01:23:47,620 --> 01:23:50,560
Adam Curry: Ethel, who, I guess,
was not on good terms with the

1463
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,960
RFK Jr when she passed.

1464
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,180
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. Well, probably not,

1465
01:23:55,180 --> 01:23:56,680
because she's a die hard she

1466
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,720
Adam Curry: was leading the
family against him. Well, it's

1467
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,920
John C Dvorak: beside the point
in the fact that what that he

1468
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:09,780
did indeed show up with Cheryl
Hines both wearing their wedding

1469
01:24:09,780 --> 01:24:14,760
rings and holding hands. Uh huh.
But if you listen to Nora, I get

1470
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:19,920
this under Nora on the Ethel,
something is left out of this

1471
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,140
report completely

1472
01:24:21,260 --> 01:24:23,360
Unknown: Bethel Kennedy was
remembered today here in

1473
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,900
Washington as a champion for
human rights and as a fireball

1474
01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:30,620
of continuous energy. Three
Democratic presidents attended

1475
01:24:30,620 --> 01:24:34,580
her memorial, Joe Biden, Barack
Obama and Bill Clinton, the

1476
01:24:34,580 --> 01:24:38,720
widow of Robert F Kennedy died
last week at 96 years old, the

1477
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,000
head of a family that includes
34 grandchildren and 24 great

1478
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,000
grandchildren. President Biden
spoke of how mrs. Kennedy

1479
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,760
reached out when his first wife
and daughter were killed in a

1480
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,000
car accident, and then again,
when his son Beau died, Ethel

1481
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,300
Kennedy will be buried next to
her husband at Arlington

1482
01:24:55,420 --> 01:24:59,740
National Cemetery, and that is
tonight. CBS Evening News.

1483
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:00,660
Adam Curry: All right,

1484
01:25:01,140 --> 01:25:04,920
John C Dvorak: well, where's the
mention of RFJ? RFK Jr is

1485
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,000
showing up at all. That's more
what you brought up was more

1486
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:14,880
interesting than the three old
dudes completely left out. Now,

1487
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,700
there was a moment where it
looked like there was an

1488
01:25:17,700 --> 01:25:22,940
argument going on between Obama
and Biden that was shown on C

1489
01:25:22,940 --> 01:25:23,480
Spanish

1490
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,900
Adam Curry: became kind of a
people were doing AI voices on

1491
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:27,920
it that. Well, I

1492
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,080
John C Dvorak: happen to have
one of the better versions of

1493
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,000
that. You really buying this,

1494
01:25:33,140 --> 01:25:36,500
Adam Curry: buying, what that
that? Okay, well, you this is an

1495
01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:39,680
AI version. So we're agreeing
This is AI put

1496
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,600
John C Dvorak: in what says
right in the clip, funeral. Ai,

1497
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:47,380
Unknown: all right, what

1498
01:25:47,380 --> 01:25:49,480
John C Dvorak: am I buying? What
would you? What were you

1499
01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:51,400
suggesting that I believe this.
I

1500
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,760
Adam Curry: hadn't seen the A I
hadn't seen your clip title yet.

1501
01:25:54,820 --> 01:25:59,680
Yes, you know, yeah, sometimes
people that all these voices,

1502
01:26:00,100 --> 01:26:04,320
John C Dvorak: the Obama voice
is not good enough. I mean,

1503
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:09,540
there are weaknesses with the
but I'm just saying I love, love

1504
01:26:09,540 --> 01:26:13,320
these AI bits because they're
funny, yeah, and I don't, and

1505
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,560
they got definitely have good
writers. So here. So they showed

1506
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,380
this on C span. We didn't get to
hear any of it, and this, it

1507
01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:23,420
looks like they're getting into
something of a beef. And so our

1508
01:26:23,420 --> 01:26:25,280
AI community came up, and

1509
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,880
Adam Curry: there's no Bitcoin
community, but there's an AI

1510
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:29,480
community.

1511
01:26:30,860 --> 01:26:34,280
John C Dvorak: Yeah, smaller.
Okay, so it's more likely to be

1512
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:35,180
a community. This is

1513
01:26:35,180 --> 01:26:37,160
Adam Curry: great. I'm all for
it. This is great. All right,

1514
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:38,600
can we play it? Yeah.

1515
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,200
Unknown: So is Kamala doing?
Okay? Nope,

1516
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:47,080
she's down, Joe, I I think they
found out that she's retarded.

1517
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,020
Now we're basically fucked.
Trump is killing us at the

1518
01:26:50,020 --> 01:26:54,580
polls, so yes, we're gonna lose
Joe, damn it. Wait,

1519
01:26:56,260 --> 01:26:57,760
what if I come back to run again

1520
01:26:57,820 --> 01:27:03,420
as candidate? Yeah, well, let me
put it this way. Joe, the only

1521
01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:06,240
person in this world who is even
more retarded than Kamala Harris

1522
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:09,180
is basically you. So no joke,
you're not going back yet. Let's

1523
01:27:09,180 --> 01:27:12,960
let it all play out. Okay, let's
just, we'll talk later. Joe,

1524
01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:13,560
okay,

1525
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,360
women looking fine up in here.

1526
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,480
Adam Curry: Good. That's a more,
that's a more PG rated version

1527
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:21,380
than something else I

1528
01:27:21,380 --> 01:27:23,780
John C Dvorak: heard. You heard
worse? Oh,

1529
01:27:23,780 --> 01:27:25,100
Adam Curry: it was about Big
Mike.

1530
01:27:25,940 --> 01:27:29,360
John C Dvorak: Oh, I didn't see
that one. Well, speaking

1531
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,140
Adam Curry: of AI, I was looking
at this report, which is about,

1532
01:27:33,260 --> 01:27:35,840
which is your typical, and we'll
get to it after the break, your

1533
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,340
typical, you know? Oh, German
spy chief says that Putin's not

1534
01:27:40,340 --> 01:27:42,940
going to stop. He's going to
take over all of Europe. And

1535
01:27:42,940 --> 01:27:46,180
then I heard something, and I
stopped dead in my trash. German

1536
01:27:46,180 --> 01:27:48,760
Unknown: intelligence chiefs on
Monday warned of an increasing

1537
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,180
Russian threat and said Vladimir
Putin may not stop at Ukraine.

1538
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,080
Bruno Kal head of the Federal
Intelligence Services, the BND,

1539
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,120
said that Russia was preparing
ahead

1540
01:27:59,380 --> 01:28:02,760
Putin will continue to test the
West's red lines and further

1541
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,460
escalate the confrontation. So I
stopped right

1542
01:28:05,460 --> 01:28:09,900
Adam Curry: here. I went, hold
on a second. This is France, 24

1543
01:28:10,980 --> 01:28:13,500
but I recognize that voice.
Welcome

1544
01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:16,800
Unknown: to the automated daily
top news edition the podcast

1545
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,100
created by generative AI. Now
we're not just delivering the

1546
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:23,480
news, we're empowering you to
become a storyteller. Create

1547
01:28:23,480 --> 01:28:27,020
your own podcast using your
handpicked list of sources. The

1548
01:28:27,020 --> 01:28:27,320
West

1549
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,440
sounded lines and further
escalate the confrontation. It's

1550
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:32,420
the same AI voice.

1551
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,060
John C Dvorak: You really think
so? Oh, I

1552
01:28:35,060 --> 01:28:37,340
Adam Curry: mean, it's just
filtered differently. Oh, yeah,

1553
01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:40,540
it's, it's, did they show the
guy talking? No, no, no, no,

1554
01:28:40,540 --> 01:28:44,260
that it's translating what the
what the German spy was.

1555
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,500
John C Dvorak: Oh, and they're
using this guy, yes, yes,

1556
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,440
Adam Curry: without a
disclaimer. Okay, I just need to

1557
01:28:50,440 --> 01:28:53,320
say something, because I think
I'm on to something here about

1558
01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:57,460
AI, where my error in thinking,
because I obviously, I want AI

1559
01:28:57,460 --> 01:29:00,120
to destroy the social media,
social network. I want to

1560
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,080
destroy everything.

1561
01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:04,020
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're just
you're a nihilist. My

1562
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,200
Adam Curry: era was thinking
that, AI, entropy would ruin it.

1563
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:14,580
But no, it's human behavior that
is now ruining all platforms,

1564
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:18,900
YouTube, Tiktok, social media,
anything that depends on what's

1565
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:21,740
your definition of ruining I'm
gonna explain. I'm getting

1566
01:29:21,740 --> 01:29:26,780
there, and I have a lot of
stories to back it up, anything

1567
01:29:26,780 --> 01:29:30,740
that depends on advertising,
which immediately invites people

1568
01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:36,440
to game, algos, all of them,
YouTube, Tiktok, you know, grok

1569
01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:41,740
on on X meta has llama. They're
all offering tools to their

1570
01:29:41,740 --> 01:29:46,180
users to easily create content
based on popular keywords,

1571
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:51,340
trending images. I mean, the
tools are amazing, and this is

1572
01:29:51,340 --> 01:29:55,960
what happened to me. I was, I
was on YouTube looking at

1573
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,780
something for the show, and I
see in the corner recommendation

1574
01:29:59,140 --> 01:30:05,640
for the. This delta Hawk, DHK,
180 v4, two stroke diesel engine

1575
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,760
with no electrics for aircraft.
I'm like, Huh, that's

1576
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:12,720
interesting. And so I click on
it, and there's a guy at Air

1577
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,240
adventure, and I know that
channel. And I was like, okay,

1578
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,820
he's got some information. Is it
very interesting engine?

1579
01:30:18,420 --> 01:30:21,020
John C Dvorak: And you got
suckered into clicking, yeah,

1580
01:30:21,020 --> 01:30:21,560
but

1581
01:30:21,620 --> 01:30:25,100
Adam Curry: then I wanted to
know more, and there must have

1582
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:29,960
been 100 videos about this
engine, and it'd be like, 18

1583
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,660
minutes, and you click on it,
and it'd be one of these AI

1584
01:30:32,660 --> 01:30:35,120
voices, and really no
information, and all of a

1585
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,880
sudden, in the middle of it,
some other program comes in, and

1586
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:44,200
then it goes back, and all of
these were basically videos that

1587
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:48,520
have been created by people
trying to get views using AI

1588
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:53,200
tools just to get me to click in
the same thing with Diddy man,

1589
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,800
go look on YouTube or tick tock
for something about Diddy, and

1590
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,040
you'll realize, after five
minutes, wait A Minute, I'm

1591
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:04,380
seeing the same the same
pictures swap the whole time

1592
01:31:04,380 --> 01:31:07,680
they're telling me nothing. And
then you realize I'm listening

1593
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:13,200
to some chat GPT script here.
This is filling up all of the

1594
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,980
social networks, particularly
YouTube and tick tock, and they

1595
01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:20,900
don't know what to do about it.
And then you've got the bots

1596
01:31:21,260 --> 01:31:25,100
engaging and commenting. Go look
at some comments. Half of them

1597
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:30,620
are nonsense review sites of
product reviews, it's all AI

1598
01:31:30,620 --> 01:31:35,840
generated comments. Kindle
filled with books that are crap,

1599
01:31:36,020 --> 01:31:42,280
just just developed by by chat
GPT, so if you and I put some

1600
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,620
links in the show notes, people
can go take a look. AI is

1601
01:31:44,620 --> 01:31:48,640
ruining the internet. Here, I
tried creating a Tiktok video

1602
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,780
using only AI, and people are
doing 20 Tiktok videos a day

1603
01:31:52,780 --> 01:31:57,280
with AI. AI junk is coming for
your YouTube feed, and then meta

1604
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:00,720
is still trying to figure out
how to identify AI generated

1605
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,680
images. They are literally
killing themselves with their

1606
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,820
own users by giving them these
tools. Because, you know, we've

1607
01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:12,480
got to make it, we've got to
show that it's great. It makes

1608
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:16,560
nothing but sense, and it's
filling it up with unusable

1609
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,020
stuff. And the algos keep
picking it up. They have no way

1610
01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:24,020
to stop it. It's it's happening,
and I think it's going very,

1611
01:32:24,020 --> 01:32:28,820
very fast. I think that we're
going to see these users as

1612
01:32:28,820 --> 01:32:32,720
people at home who are making
this stuff, are just filling up

1613
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,500
the internet with nonsense
because of the model, because of

1614
01:32:36,500 --> 01:32:41,140
the algo model that generates
views and that gets you

1615
01:32:41,140 --> 01:32:45,880
advertising. People are claiming
$1,000 a day, some $12,000 a

1616
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:51,220
month. They're showing you how
to do it, and it's horrible. So

1617
01:32:51,220 --> 01:32:53,500
I'm very pleased with this.
Obviously. I think this is

1618
01:32:53,500 --> 01:32:57,580
great. Facebook seems to have
the biggest problem, you know,

1619
01:32:57,580 --> 01:33:01,800
because, you know, it's images
that trend on Facebook. And then

1620
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,740
they go in, they they take the
image, they they replace it,

1621
01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:07,800
they change it a little bit, and
then they write a story about

1622
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,520
it. Click, you got another
click. And, and, X, oh, man,

1623
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,380
it's, it's a business model. It
costs you $8 a month, you know,

1624
01:33:16,380 --> 01:33:20,900
to appear at the top of all of
the comments. And then you just

1625
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:26,120
run your little bot, let it go.
It's fantastic. It's, it's, it's

1626
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:31,340
falling apart. And the good news
is that podcasting, when it

1627
01:33:31,340 --> 01:33:36,020
comes down to it, which has no
algos for discovery, is going to

1628
01:33:36,020 --> 01:33:38,720
prevail. That in blogs,

1629
01:33:40,460 --> 01:33:42,940
John C Dvorak: no going back to
blogs. That's an interesting

1630
01:33:42,940 --> 01:33:45,940
idea. Yeah, I think

1631
01:33:45,940 --> 01:33:49,600
Adam Curry: it'd be great to go
back to blogs. Absolutely. And

1632
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:54,100
speaking of podcasting, things
are not going well with

1633
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:57,940
podcasts, with the podcast
industrial complex, I play for

1634
01:33:57,940 --> 01:34:03,120
you the top story today from pod
News Daily, which is a daily

1635
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,140
four minute report on
podcasting. James Cridland, he's

1636
01:34:07,140 --> 01:34:07,860
a good guy,

1637
01:34:08,940 --> 01:34:11,280
James Cridland: and revenue
drops for This American Life

1638
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,700
from Dubai. The latest from
podnews.net. With sound stack

1639
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,560
earning more programmatic
revenue.

1640
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:20,460
Unknown: Podcast listeners. Ira
here, there have been some

1641
01:34:20,460 --> 01:34:24,800
changes in the podcast industry.
Basically, the ad market has

1642
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,160
dropped. It's hard to run a
podcast by selling ads, and it's

1643
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,700
affected nearly everybody who
does a podcast. In the last few

1644
01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:34,520
years, we've watched friends at
podcasting companies all around

1645
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,240
us as they made massive staff
cuts. Some companies have gone

1646
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:42,340
under, and because these changes
in the industry, this coming

1647
01:34:42,340 --> 01:34:47,560
year, we expect our ad revenue
to be a third less, a third less

1648
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,660
that won't be brought in just a
few years

1649
01:34:49,660 --> 01:34:52,180
James Cridland: ago. Now, wait
for it. One of the oldest public

1650
01:34:52,180 --> 01:34:55,960
radio podcasts This American
Life has launched a premium

1651
01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:01,560
subscription version of the
show. Cast ad market. As you

1652
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:06,000
just heard, the branding is This
American Life partners. Glass

1653
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,960
also suggested other names of
this American lifeboat or This

1654
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,920
American Life Support, This
American Life switch to ad sales

1655
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,400
by national public media from
August it had been represented

1656
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,260
by the New York Times. It's
using supercast and Apple

1657
01:35:21,260 --> 01:35:24,200
podcasts to handle
subscriptions, we would note

1658
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,880
that the staff page on This
American Life lists 36 people on

1659
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:29,420
the team.

1660
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,200
Adam Curry: 36 people on the
team. No wonder you're going out

1661
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:41,860
of business. Oh man, I thought
that was so great. And I just

1662
01:35:41,860 --> 01:35:45,640
smiled and said, value for
value. Forever, baby. And with

1663
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,560
that, I'd like to thank you for
your courage. Say, in the

1664
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,560
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in the umca, say hello

1665
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,140
to my friend on the other end,
the one, the only, Mr. John C

1666
01:35:53,140 --> 01:35:54,280
tomorrow, well, in the morning,

1667
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,440
John C Dvorak: you Mr. Adam
curry, I'll say, in the morning

1668
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:02,080
all the ships the sea and boots
on the ground feed in the air

1669
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,560
and subs in the water. The water
and the dames the nights out

1670
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,460
there. Hello,

1671
01:36:11,580 --> 01:36:15,900
Adam Curry: people on vacation.
1967 was our pecus. That's low,

1672
01:36:15,900 --> 01:36:18,540
isn't it? That seems low. Is
that high?

1673
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:20,480
John C Dvorak: What for
Thursday? Yeah, is

1674
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:21,140
Adam Curry: that high?

1675
01:36:21,380 --> 01:36:25,760
John C Dvorak: That's that's 100
over you, right? This wrong

1676
01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:32,720
every single show, I'm bad. 1800
is that is the target for

1677
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:38,120
Thursdays. 2400 Sundays. That's
okay. All you need to remember,

1678
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:38,540
okay,

1679
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,400
Adam Curry: I'm remembering it
now. Hey, we got lots of trolls.

1680
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,400
Hello, trolls. It doesn't count.
Their trollroom.io, no agenda,

1681
01:36:48,460 --> 01:36:52,180
dot stream. In case that.io
domain goes away, I hear that's

1682
01:36:52,180 --> 01:36:57,760
a possibility. And what? Yeah,
mauricios. Is it? Mauricios? I

1683
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,620
think the UK gave back
sovereignty to some island that

1684
01:37:01,620 --> 01:37:07,080
had the.io domain name, and now
it's in danger of going away. I

1685
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,840
don't know. It's one of those
internets. Wow. Yeah, I know

1686
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:13,500
we've got a lot of iOS, so I
hope it doesn't I'm sure someone

1687
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,440
will scoop it up and charge 75
bucks a month, that's

1688
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:18,780
John C Dvorak: what. Yeah, just
jack up the price. It happens.

1689
01:37:18,780 --> 01:37:19,980
Some smart money.

1690
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,740
Adam Curry: So the trolls are
listening in the troll

1691
01:37:21,740 --> 01:37:26,120
room@trollroom.io or they might
be listening on a modern podcast

1692
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,580
app, which is the way you want
to go. You heard it. The algos

1693
01:37:28,580 --> 01:37:30,740
are filling everything up. If
you think you're going to get

1694
01:37:30,740 --> 01:37:33,860
podcasts on YouTube, you're
going to be wrong. It's going to

1695
01:37:33,860 --> 01:37:37,760
be nothing but AI generated
slop. So get a modern podcast

1696
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,260
app at podcast apps.com you get
cool, cool features, such as the

1697
01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:44,500
bad signal that notifies you
when we go live, almost

1698
01:37:44,500 --> 01:37:47,800
instantaneous notification when
an episode is public for any

1699
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:53,140
podcast anyway, it's good stuff.
And then, you know, transcripts,

1700
01:37:53,140 --> 01:37:58,840
cloud, chapters, all kinds of
wonderful things. We run this

1701
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:03,960
value for value. Speaking of AI
slop, oh, you know, we were

1702
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:08,880
having trouble with no agenda
meetups.com, and the Reiki

1703
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:12,360
princess. So like, you know, I
the we can't get RSVPs and

1704
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,180
something's going on, and I
can't get a hold of Sir Daniel,

1705
01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:19,020
who does no agenda meetups.com,
as a service, as a return of

1706
01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:21,680
value for the value that we
provide in the show. That's how

1707
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:25,520
value for value works. And then
and I emailed Mimi. I said, Hey,

1708
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:30,380
can you see what's going on?
This is the WordPress spat. Have

1709
01:38:30,380 --> 01:38:31,580
you been following this?

1710
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,200
John C Dvorak: No, tell me about
it. So

1711
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:37,100
Adam Curry: WordPress is a
company and it's run by Matt

1712
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:39,140
Mullenweg. You know, we both
know Matt Mullenweg.

1713
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:42,460
John C Dvorak: Well, actually,
Matt only runs half of it. What?

1714
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,840
Who runs the other half? Well, I
mean, the WordPress died. Half

1715
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:51,220
of WordPress was sold off to
another company, and Matt's got

1716
01:38:51,220 --> 01:38:53,620
nothing to do with it. He's
still, I think, in charge of the

1717
01:38:53,620 --> 01:38:54,880
public domain version.

1718
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,960
Adam Curry: Well, he's, no, he's
still the CEO of WordPress, and

1719
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,040
he runs wordpress.org,

1720
01:39:00,580 --> 01:39:02,280
John C Dvorak: well, I think
there's a I think there's this

1721
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,380
lawsuit between no no and the

1722
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:08,220
Adam Curry: company's No, no,
you've got the story wrong.

1723
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:13,740
Wordpress, WP Engine is another
company, because any we could

1724
01:39:13,740 --> 01:39:18,900
start a company tomorrow selling
hosted WordPress domains, and WP

1725
01:39:18,900 --> 01:39:22,160
engine did the same. They did
exactly that. They're very

1726
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,920
successful. They make 10s of
millions of dollars a year as

1727
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:29,360
word as does wordpress.com and
so he may have gotten venture

1728
01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:33,020
money, but the lawsuit you're
talking about is Matt mullerwig

1729
01:39:33,020 --> 01:39:37,340
decided you're using the term
WordPress. That's now our

1730
01:39:37,340 --> 01:39:39,920
trademark, and it's very
questionable. And there's a lot

1731
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,600
of lot of people who are
analyzing this, doesn't matter.

1732
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:48,460
What happened is in this, which
seems to me almost like a gay

1733
01:39:48,460 --> 01:39:52,720
lover spat. I'm not sure what's
going on. WordPress said, Okay,

1734
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:57,520
no more access to our plugins,
or the plug or certain plugins

1735
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,300
that WP Engine was using. You
can't use them. Now on

1736
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:03,180
WordPress, I'm little unclear
which way it goes. It might be

1737
01:40:03,180 --> 01:40:07,200
both. And so now these, these
plugins, are breaking everywhere

1738
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,880
downstream. It's wreaking havoc
on everybody. And it's really,

1739
01:40:11,940 --> 01:40:16,680
it's it's really crazy what's
happening. And a lot of hate

1740
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,740
going towards Matt Mullenweg,
who I only know is kind of a, a

1741
01:40:19,740 --> 01:40:23,120
nice, pleasant guy. Yeah, I know
the guy, yes. Have you ever

1742
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,960
known him to be not pleasant and
not a sweetheart? Yeah. So

1743
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:31,400
whatever happened? I mean, he's
gone full, as he said himself,

1744
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:36,200
scorched earth on WP Engine. So
Well,

1745
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,300
John C Dvorak: he's not a dummy,
so he knows enough to do

1746
01:40:38,300 --> 01:40:40,180
something like that, if
necessary. Well, the

1747
01:40:40,180 --> 01:40:44,740
Adam Curry: community. The
community hates the community

1748
01:40:44,740 --> 01:40:48,820
hates him. They think he should
be ousted from the company. And

1749
01:40:49,420 --> 01:40:53,140
it's a big fruccus anyway.
That's what's going on. Fracas,

1750
01:40:53,140 --> 01:40:57,340
yes, I said to me, I think it's
a gay lover spat. This sounds

1751
01:40:57,340 --> 01:40:59,860
like this has all the hallmarks
of it. I don't know what's

1752
01:40:59,860 --> 01:41:03,960
happening. So it just so that's
what's, what's causing some

1753
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,440
issues, and Sir, Daniel's
working very hard on fixing

1754
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:10,200
that. Other ways you go. I was

1755
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,420
John C Dvorak: unaware of this
brouhaha. Oh,

1756
01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:14,040
Adam Curry: you should. Oh,
it's, yes, it's more than a

1757
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,200
brouhaha. Yes, no. I

1758
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,480
John C Dvorak: was unaware of
the situation with the no agenda

1759
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:19,140
meetups.

1760
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,880
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well,
because no one can spell Dvorak,

1761
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,640
so they just, oh, curry, Adam,
curry.com, that's easy. We'll

1762
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:26,660
just do that. Nobody

1763
01:41:26,660 --> 01:41:28,760
John C Dvorak: tells me
anything, which is good.

1764
01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:30,920
Adam Curry: I'm telling you now
I'm telling you, besides that

1765
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:31,820
you could, yes,

1766
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:34,640
John C Dvorak: this is the idea.
You're the filter for my

1767
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,400
information. That way I don't
have to deal with all the

1768
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:38,600
spurious crap. This

1769
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:44,560
Adam Curry: is not a good idea.
That's a great idea. So speaking

1770
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:50,080
of AI and value for value, we
have our artists fewer fewer

1771
01:41:50,500 --> 01:41:52,900
Dutch masters than ever in the
most recent

1772
01:41:52,900 --> 01:41:56,740
John C Dvorak: batch. I'm still
thinking of the 3035 producers

1773
01:41:56,740 --> 01:41:57,820
they have to pay

1774
01:41:59,500 --> 01:42:01,500
Adam Curry: third Oh, the 3036
36

1775
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,380
John C Dvorak: producers, 36
Okay, yeah, even worse, we're

1776
01:42:04,380 --> 01:42:04,800
not gonna

1777
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,960
Adam Curry: make it. People,
what do you think Ira Glass

1778
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,500
makes? He makes bank. He makes
good money over there. I'm sure

1779
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:15,660
he does. He has to, yeah, I'm
sure he does. 36 producers, This

1780
01:42:15,660 --> 01:42:20,900
American Life. Oh, well, okay,
30 what? What I mean? I can't

1781
01:42:20,900 --> 01:42:25,040
even think of 36 positions for
our show. Well, we have 10s of

1782
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,220
1000s of producers, but they
understand the deal. It's like,

1783
01:42:28,220 --> 01:42:31,580
no, they're not gonna get paid,
but we get value because we're

1784
01:42:31,580 --> 01:42:34,640
not subscription only or behind
the paywall. By the way, it's

1785
01:42:34,700 --> 01:42:38,660
death. It's death for a program,
because you may be able to

1786
01:42:38,660 --> 01:42:41,920
convert now, oh, look, we got
50,000 people paying good we're

1787
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,980
good to go. How are you going to
grow? The only way you can grow

1788
01:42:44,980 --> 01:42:48,520
is by putting mediocre crap
outside of the fire of the

1789
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:52,660
paywall. And say the premium
stuff is on the inside. Kids,

1790
01:42:52,660 --> 01:42:55,600
come on in. Want some candy.
It's not going to work. You

1791
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,920
become irrelevant because people
can't just tune in and listen

1792
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,780
your relevance goes away, and
see Howard Stern. Before you

1793
01:43:03,780 --> 01:43:08,340
know it, you're nuts, and your
whole show is ruined. That's

1794
01:43:08,340 --> 01:43:11,580
what happens. And I'm glad that
Joe Rogan got out of his Spotify

1795
01:43:11,580 --> 01:43:16,920
exclusive for that very reason,
for that very reason, not this

1796
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,300
nonsense. Oh, Kamala Harris is
talking to Joe Rogan's people

1797
01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:24,920
about appearing on the show.
Really, he has two people, Matt

1798
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,220
in Colorado, who does the
bookings, and Jamie, who does

1799
01:43:28,220 --> 01:43:32,540
the fact check and production.
What people? I don't believe

1800
01:43:32,540 --> 01:43:36,560
this. First, he doesn't have 36
he certainly doesn't, no, and he

1801
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,020
even said, I keep it lean, man,
of course, you keep it lean.

1802
01:43:39,020 --> 01:43:42,160
That's we have to keep it lean.
That's the whole idea. The only

1803
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,980
way you can do it. We couldn't
even afford to have an editor on

1804
01:43:44,980 --> 01:43:48,220
this show, which we don't do,
because we don't edit. No.

1805
01:43:48,220 --> 01:43:51,640
What's the point? Exactly?
Taking out the US and the ahs

1806
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:56,740
and the arms, oh no no, and the
Hello that is going to be taking

1807
01:43:56,740 --> 01:44:02,880
that out, taking all of those
out. So it was hard to find a

1808
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:06,360
piece of art that we liked, and
it was, there was nothing really

1809
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:10,560
super funny or on point for the
program, because everybody's

1810
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:16,920
using AI now, thanks. Thanks.
Sam Altman, everybody's using

1811
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:21,680
generative AI. Yeah, we're doing
art is great. His artist

1812
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:26,540
fantastic. And back after a
quick intermezzo from Francisco,

1813
01:44:26,540 --> 01:44:30,380
Scaramanga is there's no such
thing as a free lunch. Ton

1814
01:44:30,380 --> 01:44:34,520
Stoffel with people liked it,
though it was cute. It was a

1815
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,020
crow holding up.

1816
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:41,380
John C Dvorak: It's got it's the
expression on the crow that made

1817
01:44:41,380 --> 01:44:44,020
Adam Curry: it work? Yes, I
agree. But as we look down the

1818
01:44:44,020 --> 01:44:45,280
list of what was submitted

1819
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,960
John C Dvorak: for one thing,
wait, let me just say a couple

1820
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:51,940
things. One thing, crows do not
have big eyes, in fact, and they

1821
01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:55,060
don't have whites. I never seen
a crow and you see the whites of

1822
01:44:55,060 --> 01:44:57,460
its eyes. So it was a cartoony

1823
01:44:59,860 --> 01:45:02,280
Adam Curry: i. Uh, looking at
the list on no agenda, our

1824
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:07,620
generator.com, uh, sir Joe Ho,
who was one of our, uh, Jewish

1825
01:45:07,620 --> 01:45:11,400
knights, somehow thought we
would choose Solomon's knife,

1826
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:15,600
cutting a baby in half. I, I
don't even know, I think, I

1827
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,360
don't even know why he came up
with that. I mean, I don't think

1828
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:22,280
we talked about it. Yeah, there
was some mention about, there

1829
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,920
was a, it was in a clip
somewhere about splitting the

1830
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,340
baby, maybe. But yeah, it was
minor though it was. We didn't

1831
01:45:28,340 --> 01:45:32,120
delve into the history of the of
the biblical context of

1832
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:37,580
splitting the baby, which is a
good story. But no looking

1833
01:45:37,580 --> 01:45:42,400
further down the list. Clip
custodian, he did a haggard

1834
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:47,800
Camela, which, although funny,
no, I'm not going to do that.

1835
01:45:48,220 --> 01:45:51,400
John C Dvorak: No, and it's it.
I will say, I have a I have a

1836
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:55,840
personal rule. And it, which
annoys Adam, is no end. It can't

1837
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:00,240
be gruesome. The picture cannot
be gruesome because I don't like

1838
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,820
the associative nature of
gruesomeness with the

1839
01:46:02,820 --> 01:46:05,760
Adam Curry: show, yes, which is
probably a good thing, but, you

1840
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,540
know, I feel just the marketing
thing, marketing thing, and

1841
01:46:09,540 --> 01:46:12,840
John C Dvorak: so they have a
picture of haggard Camela, and

1842
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:17,280
then associate that with the no
agenda show. Yeah, is no, that's

1843
01:46:17,340 --> 01:46:17,700
out.

1844
01:46:17,700 --> 01:46:20,040
Adam Curry: Now you wanted, I
didn't like it at all. You

1845
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:26,420
wanted the Carter did free TVs,
which it was a complete horrible

1846
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:29,540
choice, because the free TVs
wasn't even centered on the

1847
01:46:29,540 --> 01:46:31,340
train and, and,

1848
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,980
John C Dvorak: oh yes, I don't
know Will I spotted the fact

1849
01:46:33,980 --> 01:46:35,060
that wasn't centered. I

1850
01:46:35,060 --> 01:46:37,160
Adam Curry: don't know what you
were thinking. We discussed the

1851
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,540
guitar of Thrones tattoo, and I
think you were if I had done

1852
01:46:40,540 --> 01:46:43,000
some convincing, I could have
probably dragged you across the

1853
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:43,540
line.

1854
01:46:43,900 --> 01:46:49,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was
almost gonna buy it, but I still

1855
01:46:49,420 --> 01:46:53,260
like the look on the crow's
face, yeah, I just like the crow

1856
01:46:53,260 --> 01:46:56,860
and the comic aspect to it was
light hearted. It had a cute

1857
01:46:56,860 --> 01:47:01,140
crow holding a sign. It was the
lettering was too small, but

1858
01:47:01,140 --> 01:47:05,760
okay, and it just was a nice it
was pretty p it was pretty and

1859
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:12,840
joyful, yes, and the one tattoo
that you liked that was with the

1860
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:16,140
eyeball, was I realized it's
kind of gruesome to have a big

1861
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:19,620
eyeball tattoo. It's just, I
don't know, it creeped me out.

1862
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,160
Adam Curry: I'm waiting for
someone to get that tattoo.

1863
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,760
John C Dvorak: Doesn't I could
see it. I could see somebody

1864
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:26,120
getting I

1865
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,700
Adam Curry: might actually get
that tattoo. Okay, I know I'll

1866
01:47:28,700 --> 01:47:32,060
pay for it. Easy. Does it easy?
Does it? Simmer down, simmer

1867
01:47:32,060 --> 01:47:35,960
down. And then the other stuff
was just bad. Ai, I mean, just

1868
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:39,800
everything was bad. Bad Ideas,
bad prompt jockeying. Darren

1869
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:43,060
O'Neill didn't even try
anything. Which is sad. No, he

1870
01:47:43,060 --> 01:47:46,240
must have no nothing, nothing at
all. There was nothing from

1871
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,760
Darren. And I don't think
there's a single original piece

1872
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,660
here. This all AI, the real
artists have given up because,

1873
01:47:53,920 --> 01:48:01,140
hey, quality any day. And none
of this is quality. The AI is

1874
01:48:01,140 --> 01:48:04,800
diminishing in quality. I think
I can safely say that it's

1875
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,240
hurting. It's hurting the show.

1876
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,120
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
I think this. I think they are,

1877
01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:11,940
and they would, ever since the
AI started coming in, it's

1878
01:48:11,940 --> 01:48:14,160
improved the art in general.

1879
01:48:14,220 --> 01:48:16,920
Adam Curry: Okay, well, do you
see anything good besides the

1880
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,660
crow? No,

1881
01:48:19,740 --> 01:48:22,100
John C Dvorak: no. There's been
plenty of opera. There's been

1882
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:28,760
before AI. I'll say this before
AI. We had plenty of shows over

1883
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:33,620
the last 17 years, plenty of
shows where we had nothing,

1884
01:48:33,740 --> 01:48:36,860
that's true, nothing, and we had
to go dig through the archives

1885
01:48:36,860 --> 01:48:41,140
to find a piece. So this is not
a new phenomenon. Just showed

1886
01:48:41,140 --> 01:48:44,020
material itself. Didn't lend
itself to

1887
01:48:44,260 --> 01:48:46,720
Adam Curry: any I'm just worried
that we're not seeing any of our

1888
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,840
Dutch masters anymore. Where are
they? Where are the Dutch

1889
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,160
masters? I

1890
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,260
John C Dvorak: think, where's
everyone? I think the last show,

1891
01:48:53,260 --> 01:48:56,500
we had an abandonment of
listeners. We don't have enough

1892
01:48:56,500 --> 01:49:01,080
Commodores. We had lousy
donations. I think the Columbus

1893
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:06,180
Day, or slash indigenous peoples
day, I think bummed everybody

1894
01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:06,900
out. Didn't

1895
01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:09,060
Adam Curry: help, didn't help.
No, I'm with you on that that

1896
01:49:09,060 --> 01:49:14,280
didn't help, didn't help.
Anyway, we love everything that

1897
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:18,600
everybody does, because unlike
Ira Glass, we don't have 36

1898
01:49:18,900 --> 01:49:23,120
people on payroll. We can just
sit here and say, Hey, we can

1899
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,760
complain. Yeah, we can complain.
Do you think he can go into the

1900
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,480
office on Monday mornings? You
guys suck. There's no good arts.

1901
01:49:29,480 --> 01:49:33,680
The editing is horrible. Now we
can't do it. Can't do it, not at

1902
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:38,240
NPR. So, yeah, I think, I think
we're doing okay. I'm happy. I

1903
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:42,100
am happy. And we're here to
serve you, so that's what we're

1904
01:49:42,100 --> 01:49:46,840
here to do, and you need to
serve us and keep us going. So

1905
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,720
we have the 3t and the value for
value model time, talent and

1906
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,780
treasure. Now we go to the
treasure portion. Any amount

1907
01:49:52,780 --> 01:49:56,620
that anybody sends is always
appreciated. It's up to you.

1908
01:49:56,620 --> 01:49:59,800
Only you can determine what the
show is value, what it's worth

1909
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,940
to. You, and you can do a
sustaining donation. A lot of

1910
01:50:02,940 --> 01:50:05,940
people do that, and they get on
right in the round table. Night,

1911
01:50:05,940 --> 01:50:10,980
night hoods, Dame hoods all the
time. But again, you, I can't,

1912
01:50:10,980 --> 01:50:14,520
we can't determine what it's
worth to you. Then clearly, some

1913
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,400
of you think it's worth more
than whatever it's going to cost

1914
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,020
for that silly Ira Glass show
with 36 producers who you're

1915
01:50:21,020 --> 01:50:25,640
paying? No, this is a community
project, community media.

1916
01:50:25,940 --> 01:50:28,940
John C Dvorak: You have to
wonder what 36 people are doing

1917
01:50:30,140 --> 01:50:30,860
daily.

1918
01:50:30,980 --> 01:50:33,620
Adam Curry: I mean, do you tell
me? I mean,

1919
01:50:33,620 --> 01:50:35,960
John C Dvorak: what does the
show? Is it a Daily Show?

1920
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:40,040
Adam Curry: This American Life?
No, I think it's a weekly show,

1921
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:41,560
isn't it? Yeah, I think

1922
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,080
John C Dvorak: it's much we
know. We don't even know whether

1923
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,020
it's daily or week. That's how
unimportant it must be.

1924
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:52,960
Adam Curry: In tune we are
anyway, we always like to

1925
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,720
highlight our executive and
Associate Executive producers.

1926
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,620
Here's how it works. $200 above,
you get an Associate Executive

1927
01:50:59,620 --> 01:51:03,300
Producer title. That's a credit
that is real. It's forever for

1928
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:06,660
your lifetime and beyond. If you
put it on places like your

1929
01:51:06,660 --> 01:51:10,800
LinkedIn or imdb.com and it's
accepted anywhere credits are

1930
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,000
recognized and we read your
note, $300 or above, you become

1931
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,180
an executive producer. Same deal
with that credit, and we read

1932
01:51:18,180 --> 01:51:21,800
your note and we kick it off
with Scott McKay from St Mary's,

1933
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,640
Ontario, good to see you,
candinavian in there, and at

1934
01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:27,560
John C Dvorak: the top, at the
top, was $625.93

1935
01:51:30,740 --> 01:51:32,480
Adam Curry: is that
Scandinavian? I'm presuming?

1936
01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:32,720
Well,

1937
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,580
John C Dvorak: it should. It's
actually, you can tell by

1938
01:51:34,580 --> 01:51:36,800
looking at the check. Let me
see,

1939
01:51:36,860 --> 01:51:39,980
Adam Curry: no, that is his
Scandinavian amount. Yeah. So it

1940
01:51:39,980 --> 01:51:45,100
is. So that's a that's candid,
even so that is, he's barely a

1941
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:45,700
producer.

1942
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:53,500
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
it. He says dollars Canada. It's

1943
01:51:53,500 --> 01:51:56,200
depends on where the bank's
located. Well, anyway,

1944
01:51:56,620 --> 01:52:01,980
Adam Curry: he sent in a check,
and attached to it is a post it

1945
01:52:01,980 --> 01:52:05,940
note, short note, ITM gentlemen.
Health karma for my

1946
01:52:05,940 --> 01:52:10,380
granddaughter. Thank you for
your courage. N6, 2593, I

1947
01:52:10,380 --> 01:52:14,280
believe that is a Scandinavian
call sign. I think they, they

1948
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:15,060
start with n,

1949
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:16,200
Unknown: I think I don't know.

1950
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:16,980
Adam Curry: I think so

1951
01:52:16,980 --> 01:52:18,780
John C Dvorak: You think I'd
know, I don't know. Yeah,

1952
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,440
Adam Curry: you think I'd know.
Anyway, of course, we'll do

1953
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:23,960
that. Give some health karma for
your for your granddaughter, and

1954
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:28,520
thank you very much for coming
in and helping us out here on

1955
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:29,600
the no agenda show

1956
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,060
Unknown: you've got karma. I'm

1957
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,900
John C Dvorak: gonna read the
next two because they went after

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01:52:35,900 --> 01:52:39,320
that. It's too long for my
spreadsheet agenda 99 starts us

1959
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,740
off at Lagrange Texas, or

1960
01:52:41,740 --> 01:52:44,860
Adam Curry: LA garage, LaGrange,
La

1961
01:52:44,860 --> 01:52:48,580
John C Dvorak: Grange Texas, 500
bucks. He's got no note nothing.

1962
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:53,020
Double Up karma for him or her,
because agent 99 was a woman.

1963
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:54,400
You're right. That's

1964
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,460
Adam Curry: right, Agent 99 from
Get Smart, Hello, we're dating

1965
01:52:57,460 --> 01:53:01,980
ourselves. Hello, doesn't Dating
Yourself doesn't count. Doesn't

1966
01:53:01,980 --> 01:53:04,020
count. Nobody's counting.

1967
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:10,800
John C Dvorak: I am Kurt Kiefer,
who's also in Texas, but he's in

1968
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:15,480
the more liberal part of the
state. It's a town called

1969
01:53:15,540 --> 01:53:16,260
Austin, get

1970
01:53:16,260 --> 01:53:17,280
Adam Curry: out while you can

1971
01:53:18,540 --> 01:53:23,840
John C Dvorak: 500 bucks. And he
says, whoo, sorry about what I

1972
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:30,080
just did. He says, I pronounce
K, I for Kiefer. Kiefer, not

1973
01:53:30,140 --> 01:53:35,780
Kiefer. It's Kiefer. Okay. Kurt
Kiefer. Once again, a big thanks

1974
01:53:35,780 --> 01:53:38,540
to my Austin native, free
thinking, brilliant and I can't

1975
01:53:38,540 --> 01:53:41,980
believe I forgot to mention this
last time, which is probably why

1976
01:53:41,980 --> 01:53:51,220
I had to donate my drop dead
gorgeous, all caps, yes, wife

1977
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,160
Beth for turning me on to no
agenda. Oh, good for Beth. She

1978
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,760
turned you on. Just never.
Life's never been better. He

1979
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:02,160
says, wow. He really blew it
with her. Yeah, I guess so.

1980
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:05,340
Flowers help. Thanks for the
amazing work you and the no

1981
01:54:05,340 --> 01:54:10,740
agenda producers do. I am one
better informed, two more fun at

1982
01:54:10,740 --> 01:54:15,840
cocktail parties, and three now
definitely the asshole at family

1983
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:16,620
gatherings.

1984
01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:20,180
Adam Curry: The Way to go,
excellent. You've

1985
01:54:20,180 --> 01:54:23,600
John C Dvorak: got the trifecta.
Yep, you can't beat that. Please

1986
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,140
dub me commodore of smooth Texas
highways. Go to no agenda

1987
01:54:27,140 --> 01:54:32,000
rings.com and put in this these
details with your address where

1988
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:35,660
we can ship the Commodore
certificate. Jobs. Comment to my

1989
01:54:35,660 --> 01:54:40,660
sister Carrie and a belated
biscuit for my 49th birthday.

1990
01:54:40,660 --> 01:54:40,840
They

1991
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,240
Unknown: always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.

1992
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,320
John C Dvorak: I love you guys
and boobs. All the best current

1993
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:56,380
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma.

1994
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,920
Adam Curry: Then we get a note
from Dalton Fisher, from.

1995
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,640
Goodyear Arizona. Is that where
they create Goodyear tires? Is

1996
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:03,600
that the the home

1997
01:55:03,660 --> 01:55:06,780
John C Dvorak: evolution so?
Well, I know Goodyear is back.

1998
01:55:06,780 --> 01:55:09,180
Is an Eastern company, so I
don't know. Maybe they just, I

1999
01:55:09,180 --> 01:55:11,040
don't know what Goodyear Arizona

2000
01:55:11,340 --> 01:55:14,340
Adam Curry: $500 though. He's
He's vying for a Commodore ship.

2001
01:55:14,340 --> 01:55:17,640
What an honor to support the
best podcast in the universe. In

2002
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,840
regards to your Tiktok report in
Sunday's episode, I may have

2003
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,380
something to add. I work in
social media, and several years

2004
01:55:24,380 --> 01:55:27,560
ago, when I finished, when I
first started, my wife and I

2005
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:31,760
watched lots of Tiktok videos
for research, we quickly learned

2006
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,640
that it is very easy to get
burned out from all the content

2007
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:38,840
to the point that it would ruin
our whole day. After 2030, or 40

2008
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,800
minute binges of content or
more, we would get what we

2009
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:47,380
called Content brain. Oh,
that's, I like that content, you

2010
01:55:47,380 --> 01:55:49,540
John C Dvorak: know, you know,
Mimi complains about this every

2011
01:55:49,540 --> 01:55:53,020
so often. Content, when we have
a real one of our when we have a

2012
01:55:53,140 --> 01:56:00,520
what we you and I think are, is
a good show, which is dance. It

2013
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:01,440
does the dance.

2014
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,560
Adam Curry: Listeners, yes,
dense. And she calls dense. She

2015
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:05,760
says it's it hurts

2016
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,680
John C Dvorak: her brain. You
can't listen to it all at one

2017
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,120
go. You just too much.

2018
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:12,420
Adam Curry: We found we could no
longer focus on anything all day

2019
01:56:12,420 --> 01:56:16,440
long. We were very irritable and
stupid and we were anxious for

2020
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,220
the rest of the day. Con
content, brain felt like losing

2021
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:26,000
15 IQ points and getting ADHD at
the same time. It comes as no

2022
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,820
surprise to hear that tiktoks
own research found that it

2023
01:56:28,820 --> 01:56:32,360
negatively affected brain
function. Needless to say, we

2024
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:36,680
keep the short form content to a
minimum now and never show it to

2025
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:40,660
kids. Short form content is
addictive and needs to be

2026
01:56:40,660 --> 01:56:44,140
treated as such. Tiktok is not
only bad for you, it's big

2027
01:56:44,140 --> 01:56:48,160
business. I should know, because
I own a videography and social

2028
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,400
media service that get that can
get your smaller, medium sized

2029
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:56,320
business cranking out content
easier than ever. Okay, we make

2030
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,560
it. Is part of the problem. Of
course, we make your Tiktok

2031
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,220
vids, Insta reels, YouTube
shorts and more from start to

2032
01:57:02,220 --> 01:57:04,560
finish, scripting, shooting,
editing and posting, all done

2033
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,500
for you. You're out of business.
It's all going to be done by AI.

2034
01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:10,020
I've been doing this for years,
and not a single one of my

2035
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:13,560
clients hasn't had a video hit 1
million views in their first six

2036
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:17,340
months. We specialize in blue
collar companies like lawn care,

2037
01:57:17,340 --> 01:57:20,360
landscaping, plumbing, HVAC and
contractors. We're based in

2038
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:23,900
Phoenix, but travel all over the
country for video shoots. Visit

2039
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:28,640
Fisher multimedia.com or email
Dalton at Fisher multimedia.com

2040
01:57:29,060 --> 01:57:31,160
for more info. Thank you for
your courage and thank you for

2041
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:35,240
the tax write off. God bless
Dalton. Interesting. That is

2042
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:39,920
interesting. In light of I'll
just play two clips. All right,

2043
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:40,120
we're

2044
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:42,580
Unknown: going to be in this
hour with Today's Health Watch

2045
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,940
new research on Attention
Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

2046
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:49,840
ADHD affects about 15 and a half
million adults, but it could be

2047
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,140
much more common than we
realize. A new survey finds

2048
01:57:53,140 --> 01:57:56,860
about a quarter of American
adults suspect they have ADHD

2049
01:57:56,860 --> 01:58:01,080
undiagnosed, but only about 13%
have gone on to talk to their

2050
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,780
doctors about it. Mental health
experts worry that self

2051
01:58:03,780 --> 01:58:07,080
diagnosis can lead to the wrong
treatment. CBS News Medical

2052
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,340
contributor Dr Celine

2053
01:58:08,340 --> 01:58:11,640
Adam Curry: gowd joins us now,
so I won't play this for clips.

2054
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:13,860
You can look them up in the show
notes. I'm not going to play

2055
01:58:13,860 --> 01:58:17,700
them, but these people are
watching too many Tiktok videos.

2056
01:58:18,540 --> 01:58:23,240
That's what adult ADHD is about
the only people I see addicted

2057
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,880
to Tiktok is people my age.

2058
01:58:26,540 --> 01:58:29,480
John C Dvorak: So you keep this
is an assertion you continually

2059
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:30,260
make. Yeah,

2060
01:58:30,260 --> 01:58:33,380
Adam Curry: I'm not all in on
the on the being a kid problem.

2061
01:58:34,100 --> 01:58:40,780
I only see adults, oh, and blue
collar guys too. You know guys

2062
01:58:40,780 --> 01:58:46,420
who do the septic tank
scrolling, look at this. Hey,

2063
01:58:46,420 --> 01:58:48,940
Adam, okay,

2064
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:54,160
John C Dvorak: get off. Find
this. This. Yeah, I find it

2065
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:55,780
distressing. You believe this?

2066
01:58:56,440 --> 01:59:00,960
Adam Curry: Well, I only, I've I
have evidence. I just what I'm

2067
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:06,780
seeing. And I'm here I like, you
know, I and ask the kids, our

2068
01:59:06,780 --> 01:59:09,840
kids, like, now we take it, we
put up. They take it off the

2069
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,120
phone because they hate it. They
get addicted. Then they might

2070
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,280
bring it back for a day, and
then they take it off again.

2071
01:59:14,700 --> 01:59:15,720
They keep deleting. Idea,

2072
01:59:15,780 --> 01:59:19,260
John C Dvorak: you could be
correct in this assertion. All I

2073
01:59:19,260 --> 01:59:23,600
know is when I see uh, Brandon
and Jay, you know, they're

2074
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:27,740
sitting around. Once the other
come over, I put on the big

2075
01:59:27,740 --> 01:59:30,440
screen, I got something going on
the television, and they're on

2076
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,560
their phone. And then I grill
them about them. I take

2077
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:34,820
pictures. I have photos,

2078
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:37,940
Adam Curry: photographic
evidence. This has happened. I

2079
01:59:37,940 --> 01:59:38,060
have

2080
01:59:38,060 --> 01:59:39,800
John C Dvorak: lots of
photographic evidence. I've had,

2081
01:59:39,860 --> 01:59:44,740
I have evidence of the dinner
table. You have four people

2082
01:59:44,740 --> 01:59:49,300
sitting there, besides me and
and the kid and there, he

2083
01:59:49,300 --> 01:59:51,460
doesn't have a phone, but the
rest of them are on the phone,

2084
01:59:51,580 --> 01:59:54,580
yeah. And so I grilled by it,
and they're playing Wordle,

2085
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,400
Adam Curry: Oh, well. And so
they pay for it, so they are, in

2086
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,860
fact, supporting the New York
Times.

2087
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,120
John C Dvorak: I gotta pay Yes,

2088
02:00:03,900 --> 02:00:08,700
Adam Curry: Wordle is quite
addictive. Well, Tina was

2089
02:00:08,700 --> 02:00:12,480
playing Wordle a lot, and then
she went, Wait a minute, am I

2090
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:14,880
supporting the New York Times
with this? I guess the only way

2091
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,340
that they're supported, and she
has other staying in business,

2092
02:00:17,340 --> 02:00:20,160
gave up her subscription, not on
my watch.

2093
02:00:21,300 --> 02:00:24,200
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah,
Baroness nights up. She's in

2094
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:26,900
Edmonds, Washington. She used to
be Dame Knight. She's Baroness

2095
02:00:26,900 --> 02:00:29,840
night now she's going to become
vi Countess. Nice. She came in

2096
02:00:30,020 --> 02:00:35,180
with 350 $2 and she is
exhibiting noble oblige. She is

2097
02:00:35,180 --> 02:00:38,900
showing her responsibilities as
a Baroness, and now a VI

2098
02:00:38,900 --> 02:00:44,620
Countess to help the show.
Unlike our Brahmin listeners out

2099
02:00:44,620 --> 02:00:48,880
there who don't care, game on
the Brahmins, dearest John and

2100
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:52,180
Adams, she writes with this
donation, not only am I an

2101
02:00:52,180 --> 02:00:55,960
executive producer, I become
vite Countess Knight as well.

2102
02:00:56,380 --> 02:01:03,480
Please add all of the Arctic
Valley, including the star to my

2103
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:10,320
real estate portfolio. Real
Estate a different line, my real

2104
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:13,980
real estate. Yes, people out
there have to know we do cold

2105
02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:16,380
reads on this show. And we, yes,
we

2106
02:01:16,380 --> 02:01:18,300
Adam Curry: generally, we get,
we get the spreadsheet right

2107
02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:21,200
before we do the show, so we
don't have time to read through

2108
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:21,560
it all.

2109
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,500
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we don't.
We don't rehearse anything ever.

2110
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:26,900
And you can tell, in fact, we

2111
02:01:26,900 --> 02:01:28,880
Adam Curry: talked on the after
the last show, we were going to

2112
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,980
bring something up, and I've
forgotten what it was. I

2113
02:01:30,980 --> 02:01:35,660
John C Dvorak: have to. I forgot
completely what it is. I need

2114
02:01:35,660 --> 02:01:38,660
more post it notes. Somebody
send me a pack.

2115
02:01:39,980 --> 02:01:41,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, no, you
call for it and I'll do this.

2116
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:45,040
And I remember saying, we'll
never do this. It's we're never

2117
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,860
gonna remember this. And I even
wrote it down somewhere I don't

2118
02:01:47,860 --> 02:01:48,940
know where. Sorry,

2119
02:01:48,940 --> 02:01:51,160
John C Dvorak: I will never be
able to thank you to enough. She

2120
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:55,540
writes, love you me. It says,
Love you. She's got the way

2121
02:01:55,540 --> 02:01:58,480
she's got it. Love you meant it?
No, oh

2122
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:02,280
Adam Curry: yeah. Bliss says she
well, love you mean it? Is the

2123
02:02:02,340 --> 02:02:05,220
No, I think she means love you
meant it. She meant it. Yes.

2124
02:02:06,420 --> 02:02:09,660
John C Dvorak: Okay, dad with
352 Thank you.

2125
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:14,940
Adam Curry: Then we move to our
let me see, hold on a second.

2126
02:02:15,660 --> 02:02:18,960
Our first when we only have
three. No, only two. Associate

2127
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:22,520
Executive producers. David, oh,
this is coming to the end here.

2128
02:02:23,540 --> 02:02:28,520
David, let me see what David, he
has a note. Does this? David,

2129
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:34,100
270 Yes. Oh, goodness, dear.
John Adam, I won the donation

2130
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:39,140
raffle at our Rogers AR meetup
on August 24 finally sending it

2131
02:02:39,140 --> 02:02:42,760
in apologies. This is written in
cursive, small cursive.

2132
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,820
Apologies for the delay. So read
along. I've been derailed with a

2133
02:02:45,820 --> 02:02:51,280
family situation. Drink about
it, our drink about it. Get

2134
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:55,780
together was so great. It's so

2135
02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:00,040
John C Dvorak: lots of super na
folks

2136
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:03,300
Adam Curry: and even a night and
day in attendance. Next time we

2137
02:03:03,300 --> 02:03:06,960
will record a meetup report
while we're together, I feel

2138
02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:11,520
unable to adequately what is
that word?

2139
02:03:13,500 --> 02:03:14,400
John C Dvorak: I can't read it.

2140
02:03:14,820 --> 02:03:18,780
Adam Curry: Am I sure mobize?
Oh, summarize the goings on with

2141
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:25,040
me. Mirror with mirror words
here, oh, thank you. Shameless

2142
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,580
plug. If anyone in the north in
Northwest Arkansas is thinking

2143
02:03:28,580 --> 02:03:32,960
about buying or selling real
estate, I would love it. I would

2144
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:37,460
love to work with any na family
member. Feel free to text or

2145
02:03:37,460 --> 02:03:45,820
call 479-466-1032, or you can
email David at Blue canopy

2146
02:03:45,820 --> 02:03:51,160
realty.com It would be an honor
to assist others in no agenda

2147
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:56,380
nation who are in their right
minds. You guys. Four more

2148
02:03:56,380 --> 02:03:58,960
years. All my best. David. All
right. Thank you, David,

2149
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:03,360
John C Dvorak: Arkansas, which
is a really fabulous state. It

2150
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:07,980
is, in general, just, I think of
all the southern ish states,

2151
02:04:07,980 --> 02:04:11,400
it's not really southern.
Southern ish. I think Arkansas

2152
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:14,460
is the prettiest. Yes, it is
pretty, especially up in the

2153
02:04:14,460 --> 02:04:17,340
mountains, up in the it's a
pretty, it's a very in the

2154
02:04:17,340 --> 02:04:18,600
hillbilly area, it's

2155
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:19,320
Adam Curry: a very pretty.

2156
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:21,920
John C Dvorak: And here we go.
Linda Lou patkin from Lakewood,

2157
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:25,340
Colorado, wraps things up with
200 bucks, a very short list of

2158
02:04:25,340 --> 02:04:29,420
seven people indeed, jobs karma.
She asked for, surprisingly

2159
02:04:29,420 --> 02:04:32,540
enough, and she says, For a
resume that gets results, go to

2160
02:04:32,540 --> 02:04:35,360
imagemakers inc.com, for all
your executive resume and job

2161
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:39,200
search needs, that's image
makers, Inc, with a K or find

2162
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:43,180
Linda Lou Dutchess of jobs and
writer of resumes on the

2163
02:04:43,180 --> 02:04:45,220
producer list, jobs,

2164
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,160
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's

2165
02:04:51,220 --> 02:04:53,500
Adam Curry: vote for jobs. There
you go. Thank you. Linda lupa,

2166
02:04:53,500 --> 02:04:57,100
can always there for us. We love
you for it. Thank you to all of

2167
02:04:57,100 --> 02:04:59,560
our producers. We will be
thanking people who came in $50

2168
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,340
And above. In our second
segment, we just want to

2169
02:05:02,340 --> 02:05:05,340
recognize everybody. We don't
read under 50 reasons of

2170
02:05:05,340 --> 02:05:08,460
anonymity. And of course, you
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Unknown: for this episode. Our
formula

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is this, we go out, we hit
people in the mouth. What?

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02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,680
Adam Curry: You know, on the
last show, we were talking about

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02:05:54,700 --> 02:05:58,540
our view of Israel and the
United States, and how there are

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02:05:58,540 --> 02:06:03,300
so many people who are just, I
mean, I get emails all the time.

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02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:08,820
Israel's running our country,
the Jews, everything, all the

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02:06:08,820 --> 02:06:15,480
Jews. And so I went back because
I it was a recent interview with

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Michael Hudson, what are you
drinking?

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02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:19,860
John C Dvorak: Topo Chico, nice.

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02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:21,920
Unknown: That's a lot of rack.
That's our

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02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:26,900
Adam Curry: drink of choice here
in Texas. So Michael Hudson, we

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02:06:26,900 --> 02:06:29,300
played him before. He's a
professor of economics. He's an

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02:06:29,300 --> 02:06:36,140
old dude. He's in his late 70s.
I put a fair amount of work into

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02:06:36,140 --> 02:06:42,220
this because he stutters worse
than Biden, and it's really bad.

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02:06:42,220 --> 02:06:45,100
And, you know, you can, I was
able to shore up these clips by

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02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:49,000
40% in most cases, but I thought
it was important, because he was

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back in the 70s. He was there
when the American foreign policy

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02:06:53,620 --> 02:06:59,140
was designed. And I'm talking
about people like Brzezinski,

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02:06:59,260 --> 02:07:03,780
Herman Kahn, and, you know, all
the way up through Wolfowitz and

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02:07:03,780 --> 02:07:09,420
all of these classics, the
classics, the classics and and

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02:07:09,420 --> 02:07:13,680
so. And I, I believe he is
telling the truth, and I think

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this is where we are at when you
look at Israel and Ukraine and

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02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:24,020
many other wars in the recent
past, and I talked a little bit

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02:07:24,020 --> 02:07:25,940
about this on the last show, but
I want to make this

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02:07:25,940 --> 02:07:29,540
presentation, and it comes
actually, after this piece of

2203
02:07:29,540 --> 02:07:33,860
information, which I didn't
know, as the globalist Christine

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02:07:34,100 --> 02:07:40,720
Amanpour was interviewing the
Foreign Minister of Palestine,

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02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:46,540
and I didn't know this, but it
was a ceasefire had been agreed

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02:07:46,540 --> 02:07:49,240
to, and then they they killed
the guy. They killed the guy.

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02:07:50,140 --> 02:07:53,980
Man was Lebanon. They killed the
guy in the bunker. Did you know

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02:07:53,980 --> 02:07:58,000
that a ceasefire was agreed to?
Oh, oh, here we go.

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02:07:58,060 --> 02:08:01,080
Unknown: I spoke with Lebanon's
Foreign Minister, Abdullah

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buhabi, who is in Washington to
meet with American officials,

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02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,400
and he joined us for his first
interview since the latest

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02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:11,760
escalations. Foreign Minister,
welcome back to the program.

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Thank you.

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02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:16,020
Thank you. Things have reached a
major crisis in your country

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02:08:16,020 --> 02:08:19,740
since we last spoke, and I want
to ask you you are in the United

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02:08:19,740 --> 02:08:23,960
States right now you know that
several of the administration

2217
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:30,080
officials agree with Israel's,
you know, ground incursion into

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02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:33,740
your country. What do you make
of that, as you're in Washington

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02:08:33,740 --> 02:08:36,320
trying to get support for a
cease fire?

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02:08:36,980 --> 02:08:43,420
Well, they also agreed on the,
you know, the Biden Macron

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02:08:43,660 --> 02:08:49,180
statement that calls for a
ceasefire, and that caused, also

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02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:53,920
the implementation for 21 days
ceasefire, and then Mr. Oxidor

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02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:59,800
would go to Lebanon and
negotiate a ceasefire. Okay? And

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02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:04,980
they told us that Mr. Netanyahu
agreed on this, and so we also

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02:09:04,980 --> 02:09:08,460
got the agreement of Hezbollah
on that. And you know what

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02:09:08,460 --> 02:09:12,840
happened since then? That was
the day we saw you in New York,

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02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:13,260
I

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02:09:13,260 --> 02:09:16,860
know, and you were talking about
going into the Security Council

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02:09:16,860 --> 02:09:21,740
for this ceasefire, and barely
24 hours later, the head of

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02:09:21,740 --> 02:09:25,520
Hezbollah was assassinated. Are
you saying Hassan Nasrallah had

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02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:29,120
agreed to a ceasefire just
moments before he was

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02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:30,080
assassinated? He

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02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:32,660
agreed. He agreed. Yes.

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02:09:33,980 --> 02:09:36,800
Adam Curry: Didn't get a lot of
play. Did you hear much?

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02:09:37,580 --> 02:09:40,160
John C Dvorak: This is all news.
This should be. This should be,

2236
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:44,200
as CBS with Norah O'Donnell,
they just play a bunch of stuff

2237
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,540
right to begin on the show about
Trump. They don't talk about the

2238
02:09:46,540 --> 02:09:49,120
Raytheon. They don't talk about
the b2 bombers. They don't talk

2239
02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:50,800
about this. So

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Adam Curry: by the way, the
people who think the Jews are

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02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:55,720
killing everybody. You're not
entirely wrong, but I just want

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02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,660
you to understand the strategy
and how that was built up in the

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02:09:58,660 --> 02:10:01,680
United States, which. Is
something that is not working

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02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:04,440
too well, I would say, as an
aside, and needs to be

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02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:08,340
dismantled. So let's go back
phone call, one phone call.

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02:10:08,340 --> 02:10:11,160
That's right, it may just be one
phone call. Here's Michael

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02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:14,760
Hudson. He's talking about this
strategy that was devised

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02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,380
actually, back in the 60s. Well,

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02:10:16,740 --> 02:10:19,740
Unknown: the United States
doesn't want to see fire because

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it wants to take over the entire
Near East, and it wants to use

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02:10:23,780 --> 02:10:27,260
Israel is the cat's paw.
Everything that's happened today

2252
02:10:27,380 --> 02:10:33,740
was planned out just 50 years
ago, back in 1974 1973 and four,

2253
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:39,740
I sat in on meetings with zyred,
who became Netanyahu, Chief

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02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:45,400
military advisor after heading
Mossad and the whole strategy

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02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:50,500
was worked out essentially by
the Defense Department, by

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02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:56,080
neoliberals, and almost in a
series of stages that I'll

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02:10:56,140 --> 02:11:00,040
explain. Stoop Jackson is the
main name to remember. Stoop

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02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:04,500
Jackson was the ultra right wing
Neil Kahn, who sponsored them

2259
02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:08,400
all. He was the head of the
Democratic National Committee in

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02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:13,980
1960 and then worked with
military advisors. I was with

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02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:17,700
Herman Kahn, the model for Dr
Strangelove, at the Hudson

2262
02:11:17,700 --> 02:11:22,520
Institute during these years,
and I sat in on meetings, and

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02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:25,520
I'll describe them, but I want
to describe how the whole

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02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:30,500
strategy that led to the United
States today, not wanting peace,

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02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:33,980
wanting to take over the whole
Near East, took shape gradually.

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02:11:34,940 --> 02:11:35,120
All

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02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:37,280
Adam Curry: right, so do you
know about this scoop character?

2268
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:38,180
You ever heard of him?

2269
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:42,700
John C Dvorak: Scoop Jackson?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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02:11:42,700 --> 02:11:45,220
Adam Curry: was he a warmonger?
Sounds like it? Well,

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02:11:45,220 --> 02:11:47,800
John C Dvorak: he said he was,
at the time, that was my era of

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02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:49,960
being a Democrat. He was a great
guy.

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02:11:52,180 --> 02:11:55,840
Adam Curry: Wow. Okay, so this
is what I discussed on the on

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02:11:55,840 --> 02:12:01,200
the last episode of no agenda,
is that the Democrats actually

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02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,080
realized that you couldn't get
elected if you said, Oh, man,

2276
02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:06,660
we're going to have a draft and
we're going to send all you boys

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02:12:06,660 --> 02:12:09,180
off to war. That was no longer
going to work.

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02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:12,660
Unknown: The starting point for
all the US strategy here was

2279
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:17,760
that democracies no longer can
field a domestic army with a

2280
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:23,660
military draft. America is not
in a position able to really

2281
02:12:23,660 --> 02:12:28,160
field enough of an army to
invade a country. And without

2282
02:12:28,460 --> 02:12:32,060
invading a country, you can't
really take it over. You can

2283
02:12:32,060 --> 02:12:35,900
bomb it, but that just is going
to incite resistance, but you

2284
02:12:35,900 --> 02:12:40,720
can't take it over. The Vietnam
War showed that any attempt at a

2285
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:46,300
draft would be met by so much
anti draft resistance taking the

2286
02:12:46,300 --> 02:12:51,100
form of an anti war statement
that no country that whose

2287
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:56,080
leaders have to be elected can
ever take that role again. The

2288
02:12:56,080 --> 02:13:01,620
anti war students showed that
Lyndon Johnson in 1968 had to

2289
02:13:01,620 --> 02:13:04,800
withdraw from running for
election, because everywhere

2290
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:08,220
he'd go, there would be
demonstrations against him to

2291
02:13:08,220 --> 02:13:12,240
stop the war. No such
demonstrations are occurring

2292
02:13:12,240 --> 02:13:13,500
today, needless to say,

2293
02:13:13,620 --> 02:13:16,920
Adam Curry: although that's what
we did expect at the convention

2294
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:19,740
in Chicago. But of course, it
didn't really happen that way,

2295
02:13:19,740 --> 02:13:22,760
because people aren't quite as
animated as they were back in

2296
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:26,780
the Lyndon Johnson days. So
instead, the strategy was

2297
02:13:26,780 --> 02:13:28,760
devised as follows. So this

2298
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:32,780
Unknown: was recognized 50 years
ago, and it seemed at that time

2299
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:36,980
that the US backed wars were
going to have to be scaled down.

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02:13:37,220 --> 02:13:41,320
But that hasn't happened, and
the reason is the United States

2301
02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:46,420
had a fallback position. It was
going to rely on foreign troops

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02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:51,160
to do the fighting as proxies
instead of itself. That was a

2303
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:55,780
solution, to get a force. Well,
the first example was to create

2304
02:13:55,780 --> 02:14:01,020
the Wahhabi Jihad fighters in
Afghanistan as Al Qaeda and

2305
02:14:01,380 --> 02:14:06,420
Jimmy Carter mobilized them
against the secular Afghan

2306
02:14:06,420 --> 02:14:10,680
interests. And Carter justified
this by saying, Well, yes,

2307
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:14,280
they're Muslims, but after all,
we all believe in God, so the

2308
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:20,100
answer to the secular state of
Afghan was Wahhabi fanaticism

2309
02:14:20,220 --> 02:14:24,980
and Jihads and the United States
realized that in order to have

2310
02:14:24,980 --> 02:14:27,680
an army that's willing to fight
to the last member of its

2311
02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:31,640
country, the last Afghan, the
last Israeli, the last

2312
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:36,200
Ukrainian, you really need a
country whose spirit is one of

2313
02:14:36,200 --> 02:14:40,960
hatred towards the Other, a
spirit very different from the

2314
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:46,720
American and European spirit.
Well, Brzezinski was the grand

2315
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:51,160
planner who did all that the
Sunni Jihad fires became

2316
02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:56,680
America's foreign legion in the
Middle East, and that includes

2317
02:14:57,040 --> 02:15:02,460
Iraq, Syria and Iran and also.
Of Muslim states going up to

2318
02:15:02,460 --> 02:15:02,880
Russia's

2319
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:06,900
Adam Curry: border. So, yes,
that's exactly what's going on

2320
02:15:06,900 --> 02:15:11,280
here. You've got to get
countries who hate the other

2321
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:15,000
people that you want to get rid
of, and they will do the bidding

2322
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:17,640
for you. I think we've been very
successful at that. Look at

2323
02:15:18,060 --> 02:15:20,960
literally Ukraine fighting to
the last man,

2324
02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:23,660
John C Dvorak: the last we're
gonna kill every Ukrainian if we

2325
02:15:23,660 --> 02:15:24,740
have to, and we'll

2326
02:15:24,740 --> 02:15:29,180
Adam Curry: kill every Israeli
IDF soldier if we have to. If

2327
02:15:29,180 --> 02:15:35,240
you're asking why, well, it's an
age old issue. It's always about

2328
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:36,380
the oil. The

2329
02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:39,440
Unknown: aim of the United
States was oil was going to was

2330
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:43,300
the center of this policy, that
meant the United States had to

2331
02:15:43,780 --> 02:15:48,040
secure the Near East and the
there were two proxy armies for

2332
02:15:48,040 --> 02:15:52,120
it on the and these two armies
have fought together as allies

2333
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:57,280
down to today. On the one hand,
the al Qaeda triads, on the

2334
02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:02,220
other hand, their managers, the
Israelis, hand in hand and the

2335
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:06,120
they've done the fighting so
that the United States doesn't

2336
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:10,200
have to do it. The foreign
policy has backed Israel and

2337
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:14,400
Ukraine, providing them with
arms, bribing their leaders of

2338
02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:18,540
enormous sums of money and
electronic satellite guidance

2339
02:16:18,540 --> 02:16:22,280
for everything they're doing,
but the United States has been

2340
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:26,600
able to avoid all the
appropriate but President Biden

2341
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:30,320
keeps telling Netanyahu, well,
we've just given you a brand new

2342
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:34,160
bunker buster bombs and huge
bombs. Please drop them on your

2343
02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:35,600
enemies, but do it gently.

2344
02:16:37,820 --> 02:16:38,660
So yes,

2345
02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:42,040
John C Dvorak: it should mention
that Biden has also gone on and

2346
02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:46,300
on to say he brags about the
fact that the Ukraine war, we

2347
02:16:46,300 --> 02:16:49,900
haven't lost. We're not one
soldier. We had no boots on the

2348
02:16:49,900 --> 02:16:54,520
ground. We're not nobody's dying
there from us. Yeah, right. And

2349
02:16:54,520 --> 02:16:55,660
he goes on and on about

2350
02:16:55,660 --> 02:16:58,600
Adam Curry: it, yeah, because,
well, there are US military

2351
02:16:58,600 --> 02:16:59,500
there, but

2352
02:17:00,040 --> 02:17:02,280
John C Dvorak: they're not
supposed to be, yeah, but still

2353
02:17:02,340 --> 02:17:03,840
that technically. Now

2354
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:07,680
Adam Curry: we get to the to the
meat of the issue, which is the

2355
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:13,140
Zionists and the Zionists in
America. And he lays it out very

2356
02:17:13,140 --> 02:17:16,860
clearly here, Israel is our
Foreign Legion, and it's the

2357
02:17:16,860 --> 02:17:19,860
Zionists. Man, how are we gonna,
how are we gonna get these? How

2358
02:17:19,860 --> 02:17:22,940
are we gonna, really, how we
need to put these crazy people

2359
02:17:22,940 --> 02:17:24,260
in the State Department when

2360
02:17:24,260 --> 02:17:27,500
Unknown: all of this strategy
was being put together. Herman

2361
02:17:27,500 --> 02:17:31,700
Khan's great achievement was to
convince the US empire builders

2362
02:17:31,820 --> 02:17:35,660
that the key to achieving their
control the Middle East was to

2363
02:17:35,660 --> 02:17:40,100
rely on Israel as its foreign
Legion, and that arm's length

2364
02:17:40,100 --> 02:17:43,780
arrangement enabled the United
States to play the role, as I

2365
02:17:43,780 --> 02:17:49,000
said, of the good cop,
designating Israel to play its

2366
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:53,740
role. And Israel is organized
and supplied Al Nusra al Qaeda,

2367
02:17:53,980 --> 02:17:58,240
while the United States pretends
to denounce them. And it's all

2368
02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:02,640
part of a plan that's been
backed by the military, the

2369
02:18:02,640 --> 02:18:06,120
State Department and the
national security operation, and

2370
02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:10,140
that's why the State Department
has turned over management of us

2371
02:18:10,140 --> 02:18:16,140
diplomacy to Zionists, seemingly
distinguishing Israeli behavior

2372
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:20,840
from us empire building. But in
a nutshell, the Israelis have

2373
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:26,300
joined al Qaeda and ISIS as
troops as America's

2374
02:18:26,300 --> 02:18:28,820
Adam Curry: foreign Legion. Now
you start to understand how

2375
02:18:28,880 --> 02:18:34,040
ISIS, all of a sudden bombed in
Russia. Yeah. So those of you

2376
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:39,980
saying Mossad CIA, yes, yes, but
it's really been a plan, and

2377
02:18:39,980 --> 02:18:43,420
it's the United States
controlling, not the other way

2378
02:18:43,420 --> 02:18:48,820
around. And so back to scoop.
Real name Henry Jackson. He was

2379
02:18:48,820 --> 02:18:52,120
quite the architect of this
whole system, particularly on

2380
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:53,200
the US side.

2381
02:18:53,260 --> 02:18:56,920
Unknown: The US policy, as I
said, was based on the US

2382
02:18:56,920 --> 02:19:01,380
actually taking over all of
these countries, again, using

2383
02:19:01,380 --> 02:19:07,680
Israel as the as the battering
ram called America's landed

2384
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:11,820
aircraft carrier there. Well,
the All this began to take place

2385
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:17,280
in the 1960s with Henry Jackson.
Initially, Israel didn't really

2386
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:21,440
play a role in the US plan.
Jackson simply hated communism.

2387
02:19:21,500 --> 02:19:26,360
He hated the Russians, and he
got a lot of support within the

2388
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:29,780
Democratic Party. He was a
senator from Washington State,

2389
02:19:30,020 --> 02:19:35,540
and that was the center of that
military infrared complex. He

2390
02:19:35,540 --> 02:19:39,140
was called, nicknamed the
senator from Boeing Jackson. Was

2391
02:19:39,140 --> 02:19:42,820
fighting all the arms control so
we've got to have war. And he

2392
02:19:42,820 --> 02:19:48,100
proceeded to stuff the State
Department and other US agencies

2393
02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:53,380
with neocons, who was planned
from the beginning for a

2394
02:19:53,500 --> 02:19:57,940
permanent worldwide war. And
this takeover of government

2395
02:19:57,940 --> 02:20:02,460
policy was led by a. Jackson's
former Senate aides. These

2396
02:20:02,460 --> 02:20:08,040
Senate aids were Paul Wolfowitz,
Richard Pearl, Douglas Fife and

2397
02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:13,020
others who were catapulted into
the commanding heights of the

2398
02:20:13,020 --> 02:20:16,200
State Department and more
recently, the National Security

2399
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:20,900
Council. The Jackson Vanik
Amendment to the US trade. Act

2400
02:20:20,900 --> 02:20:26,120
of 1974 became the model for
subsequent sanctions against the

2401
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:30,800
Soviet Union, claiming that the
claim was it limited Jewish

2402
02:20:30,860 --> 02:20:35,420
immigration and other human
rights. So right then the State

2403
02:20:35,420 --> 02:20:39,860
Department realized here, here
is a group of people who we can

2404
02:20:39,860 --> 02:20:45,460
use as the theoreticians and the
executors of the US policy that

2405
02:20:45,460 --> 02:20:49,780
we want, they both want to take
over all of the Arab countries,

2406
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:54,040
I don't think there were any non
Jewish Americans that had that

2407
02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:58,960
visceral hatred of Islam that
the Zionists said, or also The

2408
02:20:58,960 --> 02:21:02,580
visceral hatred of Russia,
specifically for its anti

2409
02:21:02,760 --> 02:21:08,580
semitism of past centuries, most
of which was in Ukraine, and by

2410
02:21:08,580 --> 02:21:09,000
the way,

2411
02:21:09,060 --> 02:21:13,440
Adam Curry: so now the entire
State Department comes into

2412
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:18,600
view. We understand the thinking
and the milieu that Newland and

2413
02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:22,880
Blinken and all these jamoks
have been in. They have been

2414
02:21:22,940 --> 02:21:29,420
educated for this policy that is
US policy, our policy. And

2415
02:21:29,420 --> 02:21:34,820
John C Dvorak: let's, let's make
it clear, antiquated, yes, began

2416
02:21:34,820 --> 02:21:38,480
during the Stalin period where
Khrushchev, I think it was the

2417
02:21:38,480 --> 02:21:41,920
guy running it. When is when it
was the Soviet Union, which is

2418
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:48,100
long gone and and the structure
of the world has changed, messy,

2419
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:52,600
but we're keeping with this
archaic policy, which is

2420
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:54,880
ludicrous at this point, and

2421
02:21:54,880 --> 02:21:58,420
Adam Curry: this is the last
clip, because the system is no

2422
02:21:58,420 --> 02:22:03,720
longer working. It's not
happening. It's failing. And

2423
02:22:03,720 --> 02:22:05,880
this is his wrap up from the
very

2424
02:22:05,880 --> 02:22:09,540
Unknown: beginning. They were
promoted, supported with huge

2425
02:22:09,540 --> 02:22:12,840
amounts of money, all of the
bombs they needed, all the

2426
02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:16,140
armaments they needed, all the
funding they needed. And Israel

2427
02:22:16,860 --> 02:22:21,140
is a country whose economy needs
foreign exchange in order to

2428
02:22:21,140 --> 02:22:26,060
keep its currency solvent. All
of that was given to them

2429
02:22:26,180 --> 02:22:30,800
precisely to do exactly what
they're doing today. So when

2430
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:35,060
Biden pretends to say, Can't
there be two state solution? No,

2431
02:22:35,120 --> 02:22:39,020
there can't be a two state
solution, because Netanyahu has

2432
02:22:39,020 --> 02:22:43,720
said, we hate the gazians. We
hate the Palestinians. We hate

2433
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:47,200
the Arabs. That cannot be a two
state solution. This could not

2434
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:50,920
have been said explicitly 50
years ago. That would have been

2435
02:22:50,920 --> 02:22:56,740
shocking, but it was. It was
being said by the neocons who

2436
02:22:56,740 --> 02:23:00,360
were brought in from the
beginning to do exactly what

2437
02:23:00,360 --> 02:23:05,700
they're doing today to act as
America's proxy, to conquer the

2438
02:23:05,700 --> 02:23:10,920
oil producing countries and make
it part of Greater Israel, as

2439
02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:14,580
much of a satellite of the
United States that England or

2440
02:23:14,580 --> 02:23:20,780
Germany or Japan have become,
that's become a precondition for

2441
02:23:20,780 --> 02:23:25,280
their own solvency, it is
insolvent. There's no solution

2442
02:23:25,460 --> 02:23:31,520
to black hole that Israel's
painted itself into, and yet

2443
02:23:31,700 --> 02:23:37,160
there's no willingness to have a
single state, because Biden and

2444
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:41,740
the entire National Security
Council, Congress and the

2445
02:23:41,800 --> 02:23:45,400
military, and especially the
military industrial complex,

2446
02:23:45,460 --> 02:23:53,260
says there cannot be any common
living between Palestinians and

2447
02:23:53,980 --> 02:23:58,900
Israelis, anymore than there can
be in Ukraine. Ukrainians and

2448
02:23:58,900 --> 02:24:02,580
speakers and Russian speakers in
the same country. It's exactly

2449
02:24:02,580 --> 02:24:06,720
the same it's following exactly
the same policy. And all of this

2450
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:10,680
is planned and sponsored by the
United States and funded with

2451
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:12,120
enormous amounts of money.

2452
02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:15,060
Adam Curry: And I would say
Taiwan is on deck for this

2453
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:20,960
idiotic policy. So this has been
United States policy. We are the

2454
02:24:20,960 --> 02:24:26,780
bad guys in this. And yes, of
course, the Zionists in Congress

2455
02:24:26,900 --> 02:24:30,500
who get funded through AIPAC,
which is directly funded by the

2456
02:24:30,500 --> 02:24:34,100
corrupt companies, allegedly,
who we just heard Raytheon.

2457
02:24:34,100 --> 02:24:37,100
They're the ones who the Israeli
education fund who give the

2458
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:40,360
money to AIPAC, which flows
through to the senators and the

2459
02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:43,360
Congress people who are all in
on the military industrial

2460
02:24:43,360 --> 02:24:46,840
complex, except Thomas Massie. I
was gonna say, see Thomas

2461
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:50,800
Massie, whose wife dies very
suddenly, unexpectedly after he

2462
02:24:51,100 --> 02:24:56,740
after he explains how this
works. So the Jews and the

2463
02:24:56,740 --> 02:24:59,500
Mossad, I really don't think
that they're controlling

2464
02:24:59,500 --> 02:25:03,540
America. America, but this
policy is outdated. It's not

2465
02:25:03,540 --> 02:25:06,960
working, and it appears to me,
specifically, when we have our

2466
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:10,800
boots on the ground, dude named
Mohammed, that everybody in the

2467
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:14,220
region knows this is coming to
an end. Trump's coming in. He's

2468
02:25:14,220 --> 02:25:18,240
going to change this policy, and
he's going to fix it, and I

2469
02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:21,080
really believe he's going to do
that with the Abraham accords

2470
02:25:21,080 --> 02:25:25,520
2.0 and will being will bring
peace, will still get a lot of

2471
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:30,740
oil those he knows how to cut a
deal. But this, this killing,

2472
02:25:30,740 --> 02:25:35,420
this has to stop and and that's
why the Jews, the Jews in

2473
02:25:35,420 --> 02:25:39,740
Israel, they are mad at
Netanyahu. They see what's going

2474
02:25:39,740 --> 02:25:42,400
on. They know what's happening.
But you can't come out and say,

2475
02:25:42,400 --> 02:25:46,600
you can't say America is running
this show, which is exactly what

2476
02:25:46,600 --> 02:25:50,680
we're doing. And just to laugh
for a couple seconds here,

2477
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:57,700
Zelensky unveiled his victory
plan to his own parliament. I

2478
02:25:57,700 --> 02:26:00,780
will play the report first about
the victory plan.

2479
02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:04,140
Unknown: This morning, I've been
seeing humorous memes on the

2480
02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:08,100
internet showing how the
lawmakers were applauding in the

2481
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:11,460
Ukrainian parliament, but with
the video cut so that Volodymyr

2482
02:26:11,460 --> 02:26:14,940
Zelensky just comes in and says,
slavo Craney, which means Glory

2483
02:26:14,940 --> 02:26:18,120
to Ukraine, and then everybody
claps. The implication being

2484
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:21,440
that there wasn't very much
really in the plan.

2485
02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:24,320
Unfortunately, there's also a
photo of the speaker of

2486
02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:27,380
parliament, sorry, a video of
him inviting photographers to

2487
02:26:27,380 --> 02:26:30,320
photograph the plan, and he
accidentally opens his dossier

2488
02:26:30,320 --> 02:26:33,260
on the wrong page, and it's a
blank page, which a lot of

2489
02:26:33,260 --> 02:26:38,000
Ukrainians found, you know,
darkly funny in Parliament,

2490
02:26:38,060 --> 02:26:40,960
despite the applause, which
meant that everybody accepted

2491
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:43,300
the plan because, of course,
there's nothing in there that

2492
02:26:43,300 --> 02:26:47,620
Ukrainians would want to
disapprove of. A lot of MPs were

2493
02:26:47,620 --> 02:26:52,060
very critical, saying that it
doesn't really constitute a

2494
02:26:52,060 --> 02:26:55,840
plan. It's more like just a wish
list. Zelensky himself was

2495
02:26:55,840 --> 02:26:59,740
insisting again and again on how
much all of this depends on

2496
02:26:59,740 --> 02:27:03,180
Ukraine's partners and allies.
And a lot of people are saying,

2497
02:27:03,180 --> 02:27:06,120
well, he's asking things from
the partners and allies that the

2498
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:08,520
partners and allies have been
pretty clear that they don't

2499
02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:12,300
want to give for the moment
anyway. Though one MP did point

2500
02:27:12,300 --> 02:27:15,480
out that this has happened
before, that Ukraine asked for

2501
02:27:15,480 --> 02:27:20,960
Patriot air defense missiles, F
16, all sorts of weaponry that

2502
02:27:21,140 --> 02:27:24,380
at first, the West seem pretty
determined not to give, and

2503
02:27:24,380 --> 02:27:27,440
ended up giving. I guess the
hope is that it will be the same

2504
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:30,800
with NATO. But I don't think
anyone in Ukraine is hoping that

2505
02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:34,640
any kind of announcement is
going to come from NATO today or

2506
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:36,260
any time before the US election.

2507
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:39,560
Adam Curry: So it's falling
apart, because everybody knows

2508
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:43,000
you can't just get this, this
country into NATO, which is the

2509
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:47,260
top of this plan, invitation to
join NATO. It's falling apart in

2510
02:27:47,260 --> 02:27:50,560
Ukraine, and it's so bad in
Israel that, well, we had to do

2511
02:27:50,560 --> 02:27:51,160
this. The

2512
02:27:51,160 --> 02:27:53,440
Unknown: United States has
announced that it's sending

2513
02:27:53,500 --> 02:27:57,220
Israel an additional high
altitude anti missile system to

2514
02:27:57,220 --> 02:28:01,260
boost its defenses against a
potential Iranian attack. The

2515
02:28:01,260 --> 02:28:05,040
THAAD weapon system is used to
shoot down incoming ballistic

2516
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:09,840
missiles and will be operated by
US troops in Israel. President

2517
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:13,200
Biden said the system would
bolster Israel's air defenses

2518
02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:17,460
following Iran's ballistic
missile attacks in April and

2519
02:28:17,460 --> 02:28:20,720
October. The announcement was
made just hours after Iran

2520
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:23,660
warned the US to keep its
military forces out of Israel.

2521
02:28:23,660 --> 02:28:23,780
So

2522
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:26,900
Adam Curry: Americans have a
great choice. Vote for the

2523
02:28:26,900 --> 02:28:31,100
candidate who was endorsed by
warmonger Dick Cheney, or for

2524
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:34,580
someone who has an idea on how
to fix this and was actually

2525
02:28:34,580 --> 02:28:39,860
kind of underway doing it. But
this, we are bad. We are bad

2526
02:28:39,860 --> 02:28:43,300
with this, and it's dumb and
stupid, and it has to dog. We

2527
02:28:43,300 --> 02:28:47,500
are bad dog, Bad dog. We have to
stop this.

2528
02:28:49,120 --> 02:28:52,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, we
have to stop it. I mean, I think

2529
02:28:52,780 --> 02:28:55,600
our intentions are good, but we
have to stop it because it's

2530
02:28:55,660 --> 02:29:00,780
archaic. Yes, this is bulk. We
don't Stalin doesn't run Russia

2531
02:29:00,780 --> 02:29:03,960
anymore, or the Soviet Union
doesn't even exist. We made

2532
02:29:03,960 --> 02:29:08,400
promises that we didn't keep
about moving NATO around. NATO

2533
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:12,000
is archaic. I think every Trump
knows that, but there's not much

2534
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:16,920
you can do about it, because it
sounds good and but this arc old

2535
02:29:16,920 --> 02:29:19,920
fashioned thinking is really an
issue. It

2536
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:27,200
Adam Curry: is, it is. And for
the brothers and sisters who are

2537
02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:29,900
so, well, yeah, but they're
good, they're gonna cheat.

2538
02:29:29,900 --> 02:29:32,180
They're gonna cheat. They're
gonna yes, they're gonna cheat.

2539
02:29:32,300 --> 02:29:35,180
So are the Republicans.
Everybody's gonna cheat. What

2540
02:29:35,180 --> 02:29:41,860
you haven't heard a lot about in
because why would you is that at

2541
02:29:41,860 --> 02:29:47,440
the state level, a lot has
happened with election boards

2542
02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:53,260
and people in charge of of how
the ballots are going to be

2543
02:29:53,260 --> 02:29:56,860
counted. So you get like this,
oh, an outrageous report. Dana

2544
02:29:56,860 --> 02:29:59,920
Bash always says, No, I can't
believe this. This is just.

2545
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,320
Crazy, a big

2546
02:30:01,380 --> 02:30:04,500
Unknown: court ruling yesterday
in Georgia about how the state's

2547
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:08,280
votes will be counted, a state
judge paused a controversial new

2548
02:30:08,340 --> 02:30:11,940
rule from the Georgia election
board, which is controlled by

2549
02:30:11,940 --> 02:30:16,440
Trump allies. That rule would
require hand counting all

2550
02:30:16,500 --> 02:30:20,120
ballots. CNN, Sarah Murray is
following. Explain the

2551
02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:20,780
significance?

2552
02:30:21,020 --> 02:30:24,080
Well, the significance is that
this was a rule that was going

2553
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:27,200
to be coming into place in late
October, and the judge basically

2554
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:29,960
said, Look, this is too much,
too late. He said this would

2555
02:30:29,960 --> 02:30:33,560
cause administrative chaos, and
he's putting it on pause while

2556
02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:36,140
it's being litigated on a number
of fronts, including, as you

2557
02:30:36,140 --> 02:30:38,840
pointed out in a hearing today,
you know, you also pointed out

2558
02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:41,260
there's no training in place.
There's no protocol to

2559
02:30:41,260 --> 02:30:46,060
implement. The scenes paused. It
may be appealing so close to

2560
02:30:46,060 --> 02:30:48,940
actual election day that it's
hard to imagine you could move

2561
02:30:48,940 --> 02:30:51,100
forward with something like
this, again, without any

2562
02:30:51,100 --> 02:30:53,320
training, without any rules in
place, around so close to

2563
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:53,740
election

2564
02:30:53,740 --> 02:30:54,220
day and they're

2565
02:30:54,280 --> 02:30:55,240
voting right now, an

2566
02:30:55,240 --> 02:30:57,760
election not counting them, but
actually voting. Yeah, we need

2567
02:30:57,760 --> 02:31:01,800
Adam Curry: to. We need to
training. Count. CBS had a

2568
02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:02,640
different take.

2569
02:31:02,700 --> 02:31:05,160
Unknown: It's not hand
tabulation, but it's hand

2570
02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:08,340
counting, just so they can
reconcile if the number of

2571
02:31:08,340 --> 02:31:12,780
ballots in hand matches up with
the number of ballots that the

2572
02:31:12,780 --> 02:31:18,060
machines say represent votes
cast on election day. So they

2573
02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:20,900
say it's about checks and
balances, and that would it

2574
02:31:20,900 --> 02:31:24,560
allow to look at any
discrepancies to make sure you

2575
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:27,080
know, there, there, you know.
Every now and then, there have

2576
02:31:27,080 --> 02:31:31,220
been human errors in Georgia
that showed, you know, a box of

2577
02:31:31,220 --> 02:31:35,000
ballots got missed. Now again,
nothing that would affect the

2578
02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:38,180
outcome of the election, but the
state election board says this

2579
02:31:38,180 --> 02:31:42,880
would make sure everything was
proper reconciled ballots equals

2580
02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:44,080
ballots counted.

2581
02:31:44,140 --> 02:31:48,280
Adam Curry: It's this Gillespie
County. There was huge moves

2582
02:31:48,280 --> 02:31:52,660
like hand counting hand a lot
has gone on that that is just

2583
02:31:52,660 --> 02:31:56,320
not reported on. And of course,
why would you do it? Although I

2584
02:31:56,320 --> 02:32:00,660
did like this, this tick tock
video from a voter in Oregon.

2585
02:32:00,660 --> 02:32:03,600
It's even better with the video,
but you don't understand what's

2586
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:05,940
happening when he got his voter
packet.

2587
02:32:06,060 --> 02:32:09,960
Unknown: Okay, so this is the
Oregon voters pamphlet, right?

2588
02:32:10,380 --> 02:32:13,380
So as an informed voter, you're
supposed to be able to, like,

2589
02:32:13,380 --> 02:32:16,800
read all about all the
candidates, all the different,

2590
02:32:16,860 --> 02:32:20,040
you know, political parties,
everything, right? Okay, so

2591
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:23,900
we've got Robert F Kennedy Jr,
right? He's not even running as

2592
02:32:23,900 --> 02:32:27,500
president anymore. Dropped out.
Chase Oliver. I don't even know

2593
02:32:27,500 --> 02:32:30,920
who the crap that is. He's
obviously not going to win. Then

2594
02:32:30,920 --> 02:32:34,100
you have Jill Stein, No,
probably not going to be the

2595
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:37,940
one. Then you have this weird
blank space here, it's just

2596
02:32:37,940 --> 02:32:41,860
blank. Then you have Kamala
Harris, Tim Wolfe, and then

2597
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:46,060
where, like, JD Vance should be,
is blank, and then, then it goes

2598
02:32:46,060 --> 02:32:50,740
into US representatives. Isn't
that insane? I mean, everybody's

2599
02:32:50,740 --> 02:32:54,460
like, Oh, organ is like, you
know, so liberal or whatever.

2600
02:32:54,640 --> 02:33:01,320
They don't even put Donald Trump
on. The thing that's insane.

2601
02:33:02,400 --> 02:33:06,060
Like this is why we need, like,
an electoral college for states.

2602
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:09,360
You know, if we could get
Portland and Eugene out of our

2603
02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:11,700
state, the rest of the state
would be amazing.

2604
02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:15,240
Adam Curry: It is literally half
a page just blank.

2605
02:33:15,960 --> 02:33:18,240
John C Dvorak: Didn't Yeah, I'd
like to have somebody verify

2606
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:23,720
that this was the case and this
wasn't a rigged, phony baloney,

2607
02:33:24,320 --> 02:33:27,740
Adam Curry: that's possible, but
it felt pretty when you saw it.

2608
02:33:27,740 --> 02:33:29,780
John C Dvorak: When you saw it,
the guy showed one of the blank

2609
02:33:29,780 --> 02:33:32,420
patient. You could see a smudgy
looking area where there would

2610
02:33:32,420 --> 02:33:33,860
have been maybe a photo.

2611
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:38,000
Adam Curry: Yeah, I thought that
was just bleed through from the

2612
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:39,680
previous page. But it could be.
It could

2613
02:33:39,680 --> 02:33:41,440
John C Dvorak: have been. It
could have been exactly what you

2614
02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:44,380
just said, Yeah, but I just
found the whole thing unless

2615
02:33:44,380 --> 02:33:48,640
it's confirmed. I'm skeptical
about that particular clip,

2616
02:33:48,820 --> 02:33:54,520
although it wouldn't surprise me
in the least, right? I know. I

2617
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:57,280
mean Oregon, Washington and
California, the three coastal

2618
02:33:57,280 --> 02:34:03,360
states, are all corrupted in
terms of their voting, too much

2619
02:34:03,360 --> 02:34:08,280
mail in voting. I got a ballot
the other day to mail in, and

2620
02:34:08,880 --> 02:34:12,900
Washington State's 100% mail in.
There's no anything. You don't

2621
02:34:12,900 --> 02:34:16,200
have a choice. You can't go to a
to a poll. I was

2622
02:34:16,200 --> 02:34:18,840
Adam Curry: a little disturbed
by listening to this short

2623
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:23,360
report from the New York Times
daily, podcast about people who

2624
02:34:23,360 --> 02:34:28,280
are voting by absentia. So if
you're in in a foreign country,

2625
02:34:28,580 --> 02:34:34,520
you can still vote. This is the
their report. Quote of how to do

2626
02:34:34,520 --> 02:34:35,780
it. Hey,

2627
02:34:35,780 --> 02:34:39,020
Unknown: friends, Hey, friends.
Americans living abroad can vote

2628
02:34:39,020 --> 02:34:42,640
in the US election. You can
register or get tailored

2629
02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:47,980
support@votefromabroad.org state
deadlines are close, so don't

2630
02:34:47,980 --> 02:34:52,240
waste a second. Go to
votefromabroad.org now and find

2631
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:56,320
your state. Once requested, your
ballot will come by email. All

2632
02:34:56,320 --> 02:35:00,600
you have to do is vote and send
it back. Don't delay. A

2633
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:01,620
votefromabroad.org,

2634
02:35:02,700 --> 02:35:05,160
Adam Curry: so you email your
your ballot back. I

2635
02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:07,500
John C Dvorak: don't like that,
and.org How come it's not.gov?

2636
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:09,960
Thank you. If it's official.gov,

2637
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:13,440
Adam Curry: thank you. Very
sketchy.

2638
02:35:14,340 --> 02:35:18,480
John C Dvorak: That's very
sketchy. Sketchy. Sketch, super

2639
02:35:18,480 --> 02:35:21,680
sketch, man, I'm told you, if
you're in a foreign country, you

2640
02:35:21,680 --> 02:35:24,080
go to the embassy and you can
vote. That

2641
02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:26,900
Adam Curry: would be a proper
way to do it. Yes. I mean, I was

2642
02:35:26,900 --> 02:35:30,800
right. When I was abroad, you'd
fill it out, you'd send it

2643
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:35,840
through the mail, that would
arrive at the appropriate place.

2644
02:35:36,260 --> 02:35:39,320
But this doesn't sound doesn't
sound right? No,

2645
02:35:39,320 --> 02:35:45,220
John C Dvorak: that sounds like
a scam. Yes, yes, indeed. Okay,

2646
02:35:45,220 --> 02:35:50,860
well, that was a good report.
Yes, thank you. Now I'm talking

2647
02:35:50,980 --> 02:35:58,180
about the guy. Yeah, here's a
couple odd clips. Um, we have

2648
02:35:58,180 --> 02:36:00,540
one of the Trump campaign
classic. There's a back to the

2649
02:36:00,540 --> 02:36:05,100
Trump campaign classic, does it
NPR? Does Trump campaign? NPR

2650
02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:09,000
summaries? How did NPR summarize
things? Polls

2651
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:11,820
Unknown: show a wider gender gap
than usual this year, women are

2652
02:36:11,820 --> 02:36:15,060
supporting vice president Kamala
Harris in large numbers, while

2653
02:36:15,060 --> 02:36:18,360
men are leaning toward former
President Trump. Both candidates

2654
02:36:18,360 --> 02:36:21,800
see those gaps as opportunities
to earn a few more votes in what

2655
02:36:21,800 --> 02:36:25,340
looks likely to be a very close
election. Today, Trump appeared

2656
02:36:25,340 --> 02:36:28,760
on a Fox News Town Hall in front
of an all women audience here to

2657
02:36:28,760 --> 02:36:31,880
talk about what he said is NPR
political correspondent Danielle

2658
02:36:31,880 --> 02:36:34,520
Kurtz Laban, hi there. Hey, Ari.
How did Trump try to reach out

2659
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:35,540
to women in this event?

2660
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:38,180
Well, a lot of these women,
really it seemed like he had

2661
02:36:38,180 --> 02:36:41,260
reached them already. They
cheered loudly and often, you

2662
02:36:41,260 --> 02:36:44,920
could see some wearing Trump
gear. Now, as for topics that

2663
02:36:44,920 --> 02:36:47,620
they asked about, the questions
they asked covered a lot of the

2664
02:36:47,620 --> 02:36:50,020
things that Trump already talks
about all the time, like

2665
02:36:50,020 --> 02:36:53,620
inflation, immigration. There
was one question about

2666
02:36:53,620 --> 02:36:58,240
childcare, but in his answers,
Trump notably stressed safety

2667
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:01,620
and security, which is something
he talks a lot about related to

2668
02:37:01,620 --> 02:37:04,500
women. Specifically, he often
says that women should care, for

2669
02:37:04,500 --> 02:37:08,040
example, about an issue like
immigration, because to him,

2670
02:37:08,100 --> 02:37:11,100
that's an issue of safety. He
always casts undocumented

2671
02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:14,580
immigrants as particularly,
particularly dangerous. And by

2672
02:37:14,580 --> 02:37:16,080
the way, that is, of course, not
true,

2673
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:18,840
Adam Curry: except they're
eating the dogs that,

2674
02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:22,460
John C Dvorak: by the way,
that's not true. Now I want to

2675
02:37:22,460 --> 02:37:25,820
mention this at the end. She
says, Oh yeah, dangerous

2676
02:37:25,820 --> 02:37:28,520
immigrants, not true, even
though there's rapists and

2677
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:31,280
murders inside the points. Not
true, not true, not true. There

2678
02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:33,920
was a study done some time ago.
We've talked about it on the

2679
02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:38,180
show like years ago, where it
showed that the immigrant base

2680
02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:42,820
of the United States, which
committed less crimes than the

2681
02:37:42,820 --> 02:37:50,080
locals. And this was based on a
study of the legal immigrants,

2682
02:37:51,820 --> 02:37:55,540
not the illegal immigrants,
which are now being escorted

2683
02:37:55,540 --> 02:37:58,960
into the country. And they keep
referring back to and that's why

2684
02:37:58,960 --> 02:38:02,100
she could say that at the end,
oh, yeah, there's a lot of crime

2685
02:38:02,100 --> 02:38:03,660
because, but it's not true.

2686
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:08,160
Adam Curry: You mean the report
that immigrants commit less

2687
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:12,900
crime than natural born
citizens? Yes, I have, I have

2688
02:38:12,900 --> 02:38:18,900
this from AOC was propagating
this. This goes back to 2019, we

2689
02:38:18,900 --> 02:38:19,140
can't

2690
02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:21,740
Unknown: even get laptops in the
hands of our district offices

2691
02:38:21,800 --> 02:38:25,520
because the President has
decided to hold the paychecks of

2692
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:30,260
everyday Americans hostage so
that he can fulfill a campaign I

2693
02:38:30,260 --> 02:38:34,040
don't even I don't want to call
it a promise, a campaign fantasy

2694
02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:38,180
that the vast majority of
Americans disapprove of. And not

2695
02:38:38,180 --> 02:38:41,560
only that, but in in the actual
address, there was falsehood

2696
02:38:41,560 --> 02:38:45,460
after falsehood, and we have to
make sure that we get our facts

2697
02:38:45,520 --> 02:38:49,900
straight. Every day, immigrants
commit crimes at a far lower

2698
02:38:49,900 --> 02:38:54,400
rate than native born Americans.
And not only that, but the women

2699
02:38:54,400 --> 02:38:57,760
and children on that border that
are trying to seek refuge and

2700
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:01,500
seek opportunity in the United
States of America with nothing

2701
02:39:01,500 --> 02:39:04,920
but the shirt on their backs are
acting more American than any

2702
02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:07,980
person who seeks to keep them
out ever will be.

2703
02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:10,980
Adam Curry: Let's remember that
next time it comes up. AOC,

2704
02:39:12,120 --> 02:39:15,480
yeah, that was, that was from
that clip. You're right. You're

2705
02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:15,780
right,

2706
02:39:16,860 --> 02:39:19,020
John C Dvorak: and that's what
they were based. That's that

2707
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:22,760
information is still being used
today, even though it's not

2708
02:39:22,760 --> 02:39:25,280
valid. It hasn't been valid for
years. Like

2709
02:39:25,280 --> 02:39:29,000
Adam Curry: crime has gone down
by 2.5% it went before, before

2710
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:30,980
and a half percent. Oh, yeah,
fake

2711
02:39:30,980 --> 02:39:32,060
John C Dvorak: information. 7%

2712
02:39:32,540 --> 02:39:37,340
Adam Curry: difference. Oh, I'm
sorry. Oh, that's not right. Oh,

2713
02:39:37,340 --> 02:39:38,240
that can't be right. Well,

2714
02:39:38,240 --> 02:39:39,980
John C Dvorak: they're just
gaslighting the public. The

2715
02:39:39,980 --> 02:39:42,580
public is just getting bad
information, mostly from the

2716
02:39:42,580 --> 02:39:47,020
mainstream media, who propagates
stuff like that clip that you

2717
02:39:47,020 --> 02:39:52,660
picked up from AOC back in 2019
which we have the show itself

2718
02:39:52,660 --> 02:39:56,200
has long memory. It's called the
archive. It's called

2719
02:39:56,200 --> 02:40:00,540
Adam Curry: Bing. It.io which,
by the way, there's an. A boot

2720
02:40:00,540 --> 02:40:04,620
page on Bing, it.io you can get
that same functionality for your

2721
02:40:04,620 --> 02:40:08,520
podcast. It's a very smart guy
who put that together one of our

2722
02:40:08,520 --> 02:40:13,020
producers, and he is allowing
people to purchase that service

2723
02:40:13,020 --> 02:40:15,720
from him if you want it, which
is great, because you can search

2724
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:20,340
anything, clips, stuff we talked
about, articles.

2725
02:40:21,540 --> 02:40:24,740
John C Dvorak: Here's a here's a
clip. This is a clip that needs

2726
02:40:24,740 --> 02:40:28,880
to be played. This is from NPR.
This is the Sinaloa bust. I have

2727
02:40:28,880 --> 02:40:30,560
it listed as odd.

2728
02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:33,200
Unknown: Mexico's new or ex
security chief, rather, has been

2729
02:40:33,200 --> 02:40:37,040
sentenced to more than 38 years
in a US prison and prs qlance

2730
02:40:37,040 --> 02:40:40,160
reports and our Garcia Luna was
convicted of taking bribes from

2731
02:40:40,160 --> 02:40:41,560
Mexican drug cartels

2732
02:40:41,560 --> 02:40:44,380
during the years that henato,
Garcia Luna was supposed to be

2733
02:40:44,380 --> 02:40:47,200
leading the fight against
powerful drug cartels in Mexico,

2734
02:40:47,320 --> 02:40:49,960
he was actually on their
payroll. Last year, a federal

2735
02:40:49,960 --> 02:40:52,720
court in Brooklyn found Garcia
Luna guilty of working with the

2736
02:40:52,720 --> 02:40:56,440
Sinaloa Cartel. Prosecutors said
he caused violence, addiction

2737
02:40:56,440 --> 02:40:59,860
and death in the US and Mexico.
The judge gave him a $2 million

2738
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:04,800
fine and 460 months in prison,
effectively life for the 56 year

2739
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:08,160
old. Later this week, the same
judge will continue the case of

2740
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:12,300
an alleged Sinaloa drug kingpin,
76 year old Ismail almayo

2741
02:41:12,300 --> 02:41:16,080
Zambada. US efforts to dismantle
Mexican cartels may be

2742
02:41:16,080 --> 02:41:19,860
contributing to what experts say
is a steep decline in synthetic

2743
02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:21,500
opioids in US cities.

2744
02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:22,760
Adam Curry: What?

2745
02:41:25,280 --> 02:41:28,580
John C Dvorak: So they're going
after these guys late? Yeah,

2746
02:41:28,940 --> 02:41:32,780
welcome to the party, gentlemen.
And then the thing is, this

2747
02:41:32,780 --> 02:41:35,780
guy's a Mexican official. They
somehow know how you get this

2748
02:41:35,780 --> 02:41:41,800
guy into the country to throw
him in jail. I find it peculiar.

2749
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:45,400
We've done this with a bunch of
we are an international police

2750
02:41:45,400 --> 02:41:49,180
force. I guess I'm noticing this
on like television shows have

2751
02:41:49,180 --> 02:41:53,680
been extolling the virtues of
like, for example, the FBI team

2752
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:57,940
of Dick Wolf production, yeah,
and and Dick Wolf, when he was

2753
02:41:57,940 --> 02:42:01,200
doing the law and order series
for NBC, one show after another.

2754
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:04,680
Always showed the FBI is a bunch
of bumbling idiots that came,

2755
02:42:04,740 --> 02:42:07,200
came in and interfered with the
local police, who

2756
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:09,720
Adam Curry: would always shoot
and miss, and they

2757
02:42:09,720 --> 02:42:12,900
John C Dvorak: were just
terrible jerks. But now he, you

2758
02:42:12,900 --> 02:42:18,480
know, he moves on to a series
for, I think it's CBS, called

2759
02:42:18,660 --> 02:42:23,000
FBI, the FBI trio. He's got FBI,
FBI most wanted, and then the

2760
02:42:23,000 --> 02:42:28,400
one that just makes me shake my
head, FBI International. Oh,

2761
02:42:28,460 --> 02:42:31,460
that's interesting. And FBI
International is about the FBI

2762
02:42:31,460 --> 02:42:35,660
overseas, mostly in Europe, huh?
Button into everybody's

2763
02:42:35,660 --> 02:42:39,800
business, because the FBI is the
only competent worldwide police

2764
02:42:39,920 --> 02:42:42,640
force. Then they have to move.
They're in like France, and they

2765
02:42:42,640 --> 02:42:44,560
say, you guys don't know what
you're doing, we're going to

2766
02:42:44,560 --> 02:42:48,460
take it over. And they take over
investigations in France and in

2767
02:42:48,460 --> 02:42:52,060
Italy and in Germany and every
place else. And I'm wondering,

2768
02:42:52,060 --> 02:42:54,940
what is this? What are they
trying to tell us?

2769
02:42:56,020 --> 02:42:59,440
Adam Curry: By the way, you gave
me a recommendation for a

2770
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:02,040
television show, and I want to
commend you on that

2771
02:43:03,060 --> 02:43:06,120
John C Dvorak: Mimi has dish. I
did the same thing with Mimi,

2772
02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:09,600
and she had the complete
opposite reaction.

2773
02:43:09,720 --> 02:43:13,500
Adam Curry: This is Matlock. No,
yeah. Matlock, yeah. Matlock,

2774
02:43:13,500 --> 02:43:18,780
the new Matlock, which stars
Kathy Bates. Kathy Bates,

2775
02:43:19,860 --> 02:43:23,240
there's only a pilot episode
out. I loved it. I thought it

2776
02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:26,120
was fantastic, and I know
exactly where it's going, and I

2777
02:43:26,120 --> 02:43:28,400
love it, even I don't want to
give it away because of the

2778
02:43:28,400 --> 02:43:29,180
twist. Yeah,

2779
02:43:29,180 --> 02:43:30,800
John C Dvorak: there's got a
twist at the end. You have to

2780
02:43:30,800 --> 02:43:33,500
watch the episode one is what
you have to watch. Don't watch

2781
02:43:33,500 --> 02:43:34,760
Episode Two. Of you, there

2782
02:43:34,760 --> 02:43:36,560
Adam Curry: is no Episode Is
there an episode two yet?

2783
02:43:36,620 --> 02:43:40,700
John C Dvorak: That's not that.
I know it'll be out soon. Mimi,

2784
02:43:40,700 --> 02:43:42,820
I gave her the same
recommendation with the same

2785
02:43:43,360 --> 02:43:48,460
sales pitch I used on you. Yeah,
she hated it, huh? And I

2786
02:43:48,460 --> 02:43:51,280
couldn't, I couldn't write
figure out quite why. She never

2787
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:54,580
really explained it fully. She
thought it was a dumb I think

2788
02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:58,420
she thought it was stupid. Oh, I
Yeah. And I'm surprised after

2789
02:43:58,420 --> 02:44:00,520
she told me that, I said, Oh,
Adam will hate it.

2790
02:44:00,580 --> 02:44:03,720
Adam Curry: No. Well, Tina was
hiking in the Smoky Mountains.

2791
02:44:03,720 --> 02:44:06,540
It was just me and Phoebe. So,
you know, maybe that's why

2792
02:44:07,140 --> 02:44:11,400
John C Dvorak: it could be maybe
rub women the wrong way. Oh,

2793
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:13,980
that's possible. I mean, that's
a possibility.

2794
02:44:14,460 --> 02:44:17,040
Adam Curry: I have one last
clip, and I just wanted to make

2795
02:44:17,040 --> 02:44:21,260
a an observation about this.
This is a France 24 report on

2796
02:44:21,260 --> 02:44:27,500
pig butchering, which everybody
gets these text messages, Hey, I

2797
02:44:27,500 --> 02:44:31,100
see this number, but I don't
remember your name. Or, Hey, are

2798
02:44:31,100 --> 02:44:35,120
we still going shopping today?
Yeah. Or, hey, you know this

2799
02:44:35,600 --> 02:44:37,280
John C Dvorak: after you're
done, I have to tell you I got

2800
02:44:37,280 --> 02:44:41,380
my fourth call from the guy
faking like to be some one of my

2801
02:44:41,380 --> 02:44:43,300
kids. Oh,

2802
02:44:43,300 --> 02:44:45,940
Adam Curry: wow, you're kidding
those Well, I have a comment

2803
02:44:45,940 --> 02:44:48,940
after I just took a about a
minute and a half from a rather

2804
02:44:48,940 --> 02:44:54,880
long report where they saved
some of these people and and I

2805
02:44:54,880 --> 02:44:58,120
had a thought about it, which I
think should be discussed,

2806
02:44:58,120 --> 02:45:01,140
because we just see this as
increased. Incredibly annoying

2807
02:45:01,140 --> 02:45:05,100
and lame and yes, it's very
successful. It's some say it's

2808
02:45:05,100 --> 02:45:09,420
in the 10s of billions of
dollars getting people to invest

2809
02:45:09,420 --> 02:45:12,720
in fake crypto scams. By the
way, I think it's only black men

2810
02:45:14,100 --> 02:45:16,920
and, you know, people emptying
out their bank accounts,

2811
02:45:16,920 --> 02:45:20,660
particularly older people. I've
seen, I've seen these scams.

2812
02:45:20,660 --> 02:45:23,960
I've seen how it looks like
you're investing in in Bitcoin,

2813
02:45:23,960 --> 02:45:26,900
and you're doing great, and
then, you know, turns out you

2814
02:45:26,900 --> 02:45:30,320
were just giving your your money
away, and they get people to get

2815
02:45:30,680 --> 02:45:33,560
gift cards. It's crazy. I've
seen people who have been

2816
02:45:33,560 --> 02:45:37,280
suckered into this. It really is
effective. It does work. The

2817
02:45:37,280 --> 02:45:43,780
worst is the the Asian women
usually named may Mei, who will

2818
02:45:43,780 --> 02:45:47,920
string you along for months,
and, you know, show you all the

2819
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:51,280
luxuries that she's living in
and how successful she is with

2820
02:45:51,280 --> 02:45:55,420
this crypto thing. And they play
a very long game. So this was a

2821
02:45:55,420 --> 02:45:56,440
piece of this report,

2822
02:45:56,620 --> 02:46:01,200
Unknown: an enticing insurance
policy, an online romance that

2823
02:46:01,200 --> 02:46:05,700
seems too good to be true in the
age of the smartphone, internet

2824
02:46:05,700 --> 02:46:09,360
scams are rife with hundreds of
millions of people affected

2825
02:46:09,360 --> 02:46:13,440
every year. Sienna Ville has,
over the last decade, become a

2826
02:46:13,440 --> 02:46:17,580
stronghold for Chinese mafia
groups that rely on casinos and

2827
02:46:17,580 --> 02:46:21,500
prostitution for their wealth.
But these days, online scamming

2828
02:46:21,500 --> 02:46:26,180
is by far their most profitable
business. The mafia groups use

2829
02:46:26,180 --> 02:46:30,080
torture to force their employees
to work, as can be seen on these

2830
02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:37,100
videos shared on encrypted
messaging platforms. This Thai

2831
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:40,220
man says he was effectively
imprisoned by a Chinese mafia

2832
02:46:40,220 --> 02:46:43,720
group for six months, he'd
responded to a Facebook ad

2833
02:46:43,720 --> 02:46:47,980
promising a well paid job at a
casino in Myanmar, but when he

2834
02:46:47,980 --> 02:46:52,240
arrived, his passport was
confiscated. That was the start

2835
02:46:52,240 --> 02:46:53,860
of his nightmare. Every

2836
02:46:53,860 --> 02:46:57,820
day, we had to find customers on
social media and dating apps. It

2837
02:46:57,820 --> 02:47:02,880
was a romance scam make Thai
people fall in love with us and

2838
02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:06,300
invite them to invest in
cryptocurrency. These

2839
02:47:06,300 --> 02:47:09,480
modern day slaves are set to
number in the hundreds of 1000s

2840
02:47:09,480 --> 02:47:13,560
across Southeast Asia. Local
authorities are trying to rescue

2841
02:47:13,560 --> 02:47:17,760
them. This police officer is
waiting for news about several

2842
02:47:17,760 --> 02:47:21,560
young Filipinas. These women had
been confined for several months

2843
02:47:21,560 --> 02:47:26,300
at a scam center near the Thai
border in Myanmar, like many

2844
02:47:26,300 --> 02:47:29,900
other workers, they'd responded
to job offers on social media.

2845
02:47:30,980 --> 02:47:36,860
The signal is not good, but they
are moving. I'm tracking them on

2846
02:47:36,860 --> 02:47:41,260
the phone because they have
shared their live location.

2847
02:47:42,220 --> 02:47:43,960
Adam Curry: So as I was
listening to this, I'm like,

2848
02:47:44,500 --> 02:47:48,880
Well, hold on a second. These
are human beings, and they

2849
02:47:48,880 --> 02:47:52,300
clearly need help. And he said,
right there, that was hard to

2850
02:47:52,300 --> 02:47:55,180
understand, but he says they're
sharing their location. There

2851
02:47:55,180 --> 02:48:00,360
should be some number that we
can contact or or, you know,

2852
02:48:00,900 --> 02:48:04,800
tell these. You know, when a pig
butcher checks in like, Hey, I

2853
02:48:04,800 --> 02:48:08,160
know you're a slave, turn on
your location so I can see where

2854
02:48:08,160 --> 02:48:11,220
you are, I will alert the
authorities. They can hopefully

2855
02:48:11,220 --> 02:48:15,060
come and rescue you. I mean,
this is, this is hundreds of

2856
02:48:15,060 --> 02:48:19,140
1000s of people are caught in
these in these prisons. This is

2857
02:48:19,140 --> 02:48:22,700
really atrocious. And I don't
want to just stand by and be,

2858
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:27,620
oh, it's just annoying. But this
is bad. I mean, this report was

2859
02:48:27,620 --> 02:48:29,840
just filled with, you know, it
had one of those YouTube

2860
02:48:29,840 --> 02:48:34,220
warnings like this could be
triggering, and it was horrible.

2861
02:48:34,520 --> 02:48:36,080
And there's no

2862
02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:38,660
John C Dvorak: actually,
incredulous because, well, I'm

2863
02:48:38,660 --> 02:48:43,180
incredulous because I I can't
imagine. They can't get just

2864
02:48:43,180 --> 02:48:46,540
hire people to do this instead
of enslaving them.

2865
02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:49,480
Adam Curry: Well, it's the
Chinese mob. I mean, they, they

2866
02:48:49,480 --> 02:48:53,260
don't care. They don't they
don't like W twos this, like,

2867
02:48:53,260 --> 02:48:58,240
I'm gonna beat you with a PVC
pipe. That's what they showed so

2868
02:48:58,300 --> 02:49:00,540
anyway, Ed, tell us about your
fourth?

2869
02:49:00,720 --> 02:49:03,360
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got just
my five. I've gotten four calls

2870
02:49:03,540 --> 02:49:06,420
over the last, I'd say, couple
of years. It only started a

2871
02:49:06,420 --> 02:49:10,020
couple years ago. First one was
and I knew about the scam from

2872
02:49:10,020 --> 02:49:14,940
the anyway, because I there was
some report on it. And it's also

2873
02:49:14,940 --> 02:49:19,080
i My My grandkids are not,
aren't that old that they would

2874
02:49:19,080 --> 02:49:25,040
call me up with a big, thick
voice, hey, granddad, hey, I got

2875
02:49:25,040 --> 02:49:31,220
arrested. And the scam is
somebody calls and claiming to

2876
02:49:31,220 --> 02:49:35,180
be one of your kids. Yeah, and
you're like, if you're dumb, you

2877
02:49:35,180 --> 02:49:39,620
said Timmy. Tim is that? You
Billy, yeah.

2878
02:49:39,680 --> 02:49:42,700
Adam Curry: Have you tried that.
Have you tried answering like to

2879
02:49:42,700 --> 02:49:45,940
John C Dvorak: me, is that you
though I know next time I will I

2880
02:49:45,940 --> 02:49:47,920
have not done that, but the
voice does say, hey

2881
02:49:47,920 --> 02:49:49,960
Adam Curry: granddad, so at
least they have that. Yeah, the

2882
02:49:49,960 --> 02:49:50,260
voice

2883
02:49:50,260 --> 02:49:53,500
John C Dvorak: is, hey granddad.
It sounds like I've had three

2884
02:49:53,500 --> 02:49:59,500
the Hey granddad, and the other
one was, uh, Hey, Dad. This one

2885
02:49:59,500 --> 02:50:03,720
just came. Mean, like two days
ago, Hey dad, and when the guy

2886
02:50:03,720 --> 02:50:07,740
called and he says, Hey dad, as
if it was like one of my kids or

2887
02:50:07,740 --> 02:50:11,820
something that is been arrested
and he needs money. His base is

2888
02:50:11,820 --> 02:50:14,820
the scam is simple. I've been
arrested. I need money. I've

2889
02:50:14,820 --> 02:50:18,180
been beaten up by the cops or
whoever. That's why I sound

2890
02:50:18,180 --> 02:50:21,380
funny, because this is the way
to supposed to go. Okay, got it,

2891
02:50:21,380 --> 02:50:24,800
yeah, I sound like an old
Italian man because I've been

2892
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:30,620
beat up. So I talked. I told
this guy not to hang up. I

2893
02:50:30,620 --> 02:50:35,000
really urged him to stay on the
line so I could ask him a couple

2894
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:39,140
of questions about the scam,
because I think I have had guys

2895
02:50:39,140 --> 02:50:43,060
from India and elsewhere stay on
the line and talk to me. So I'm

2896
02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:46,900
hoping to get this guy because I
asked, I said, specifically. I

2897
02:50:46,900 --> 02:50:49,780
said, Stay Don't, don't hang up.
Don't hang up. He says, I gotta,

2898
02:50:49,780 --> 02:50:58,900
I gotta find out. I said to him
how often this works. And there

2899
02:50:58,900 --> 02:51:01,500
was a long pause. He stayed on
the line for a while thinking he

2900
02:51:01,500 --> 02:51:04,260
might say something, then he
hung up. So I didn't get any

2901
02:51:04,260 --> 02:51:05,340
information at all.

2902
02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:07,860
Adam Curry: There's ways to do
that. I've heard guys. There's

2903
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:11,460
there's some channel where a guy
does this almost for a living,

2904
02:51:11,760 --> 02:51:15,300
and he's figured out how to keep
these people on the line. You

2905
02:51:15,300 --> 02:51:18,780
basically, you need to get them
to start boasting about what

2906
02:51:18,780 --> 02:51:21,980
kind of where you were. You need
to get them be really proud of

2907
02:51:21,980 --> 02:51:24,200
how successful they are. And,
yeah, I

2908
02:51:25,880 --> 02:51:28,760
John C Dvorak: don't think I
don't have the skill set to do

2909
02:51:28,760 --> 02:51:32,900
that. I know there's a lot of
people. In fact, a friend of

2910
02:51:32,900 --> 02:51:38,900
mine used to be involved with
their online stuff. She porn,

2911
02:51:39,380 --> 02:51:45,220
not porn, if she is part of a
group, and there's a and there's

2912
02:51:45,220 --> 02:51:49,000
a bunch of these people out
there that keep scammers on the

2913
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:54,160
line, string them out and try to
scam them. Oh, that is a great

2914
02:51:54,220 --> 02:51:59,560
that's it's a very elaborate
situation, and they try to get

2915
02:51:59,560 --> 02:52:02,160
money out of him and everything
else, and it's just, it's

2916
02:52:02,160 --> 02:52:05,220
fascinating that did the work
that go into it's just as much

2917
02:52:05,220 --> 02:52:05,640
work.

2918
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:08,640
Adam Curry: Here's my question,
where's Elizabeth Warren and all

2919
02:52:08,640 --> 02:52:09,960
that's my question,

2920
02:52:09,960 --> 02:52:12,780
John C Dvorak: too. You and I
have the same question. Where's

2921
02:52:12,780 --> 02:52:16,560
Elizabeth Warren or the big
talker? Oh, gonna get Rachel?

2922
02:52:16,560 --> 02:52:18,060
Rachel keeps calling me. I'm

2923
02:52:19,080 --> 02:52:22,280
Unknown: gonna show my saloon by
donation to no agenda. Imagine

2924
02:52:22,280 --> 02:52:24,680
all the people who could do
that. Oh yeah, that'd be

2925
02:52:24,680 --> 02:52:25,160
fabulous.

2926
02:52:32,180 --> 02:52:34,880
Adam Curry: We'll have to solve
that another day right now. We

2927
02:52:34,880 --> 02:52:37,940
need we've got a lot of things
coming up. We have our meetups,

2928
02:52:37,940 --> 02:52:41,320
we have Commodores, we've got
some dames. We got title

2929
02:52:41,320 --> 02:52:45,520
changes, birthdays, oh my and
the tip of the day, along with

2930
02:52:45,520 --> 02:52:48,280
our end of show mixes. John, why
don't you thank the producers

2931
02:52:48,280 --> 02:52:50,920
who came in $50 and above? Yes,

2932
02:52:50,920 --> 02:52:52,420
John C Dvorak: in fact, I'm
going to have you read this

2933
02:52:52,420 --> 02:52:57,100
note, because this is a Daming
note. This is from Lydia Terry

2934
02:52:57,100 --> 02:53:01,080
dominelli, one of our favorites,
from Clifton Park, New York, and

2935
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:04,620
she sends $170 in with a note
that you can read.

2936
02:53:06,900 --> 02:53:10,860
Adam Curry: Number four, hold on
a second. I couldn't find it

2937
02:53:10,860 --> 02:53:14,040
that easily. Number four, oh
yes, here we go. Mr. Curry, Mr.

2938
02:53:14,040 --> 02:53:17,880
Dvorak, thank you for
everything. The sanity is very

2939
02:53:17,880 --> 02:53:19,560
helpful. I was

2940
02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:22,400
John C Dvorak: I like the way
this is a person who doesn't

2941
02:53:22,400 --> 02:53:27,920
space things out correctly.
Interesting. You had to see this

2942
02:53:27,920 --> 02:53:29,900
letter to really appreciate the
sanity

2943
02:53:29,900 --> 02:53:32,840
Adam Curry: is very helpful. I
was dismayed to hear that no

2944
02:53:32,840 --> 02:53:37,040
stripe donations were received
shortly after sending donations

2945
02:53:37,040 --> 02:53:41,800
through stripe, so I'm sending a
check. I was very tired when I

2946
02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:44,680
made the last donation for my
dame hood, and could not think

2947
02:53:44,680 --> 02:53:49,840
of a dame name. Could you please
add dame? And what is this? Pre

2948
02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:55,360
K, oh, Dame. Pre K, Tommy, to
my, to my, oh, I'm sorry. Could

2949
02:53:55,360 --> 02:53:58,660
you please add dame? How come
you didn't just read the notes?

2950
02:53:58,660 --> 02:53:59,260
Come on,

2951
02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:04,320
John C Dvorak: Daim, they have a
since I'm old, I have a skill

2952
02:54:04,320 --> 02:54:06,300
for reading. Terrible. You

2953
02:54:06,300 --> 02:54:08,580
Adam Curry: should be reading
this. Could you please add Dame

2954
02:54:08,580 --> 02:54:12,120
pre K to my dame hood, seeing as
I've and

2955
02:54:12,120 --> 02:54:13,920
John C Dvorak: by the way,
there's another good example,

2956
02:54:15,300 --> 02:54:19,620
Dame hood. It's like game. And
then hood is is lifted above the

2957
02:54:19,620 --> 02:54:21,200
word sense, since

2958
02:54:21,320 --> 02:54:23,420
Adam Curry: I've caught up on
sleep. Thank you. Are you sure?

2959
02:54:23,660 --> 02:54:28,400
Thank you, Terry, or Yeah, Dame
pre K, yes, you will be coming.

2960
02:54:28,400 --> 02:54:29,780
Dame pre K, for sure.

2961
02:54:29,780 --> 02:54:33,500
John C Dvorak: And I would say
to Linda, Linda, or is it Linda,

2962
02:54:33,500 --> 02:54:34,100
Linda? I

2963
02:54:34,100 --> 02:54:35,060
Adam Curry: think it's Linda. I

2964
02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:39,260
John C Dvorak: think it's Linda.
She does. I think it's Lydia,

2965
02:54:39,320 --> 02:54:43,600
isn't it Lydia? Terry, yeah,
we've had her, she's been

2966
02:54:43,660 --> 02:54:50,980
donating forever. Yes, she needs
more coffee. Yes, indeed, that's

2967
02:54:50,980 --> 02:54:53,560
my guess. Yeah, just he's not
getting enough. Just thinking,

2968
02:54:53,560 --> 02:54:56,500
just thinking you might be Yeah.
Lydia Terry dominelli, I have

2969
02:54:56,500 --> 02:55:01,200
Pete Federici, Federici Federici
in both the. Bothell. It's

2970
02:55:01,200 --> 02:55:06,780
called Bothell, Washington, $117
and needs some jobs and moving

2971
02:55:06,780 --> 02:55:10,860
karma for his partner. We'll put
that at the end. Lucas Williams

2972
02:55:10,860 --> 02:55:15,900
in Roswell, New Mexico, yes,
$100 the blonde girlfriend in

2973
02:55:15,900 --> 02:55:20,300
Charlotte, North Carolina, $100
and he's called. She's calling

2974
02:55:20,300 --> 02:55:24,500
out a birthday for her hot
boyfriend, sir scovi,

2975
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:26,240
Adam Curry: yes on the list,

2976
02:55:30,320 --> 02:55:33,860
John C Dvorak: yeah, she's the
blonde girl. Okay, omega. Omega

2977
02:55:33,860 --> 02:55:40,660
Man and lost wages, Nevada,
another $100 John and Adam. He

2978
02:55:40,660 --> 02:55:43,660
has a question here for you,
specific, specifically, I

2979
02:55:43,660 --> 02:55:44,200
wouldn't have

2980
02:55:44,440 --> 02:55:46,180
Adam Curry: he wouldn't have
stopped, except this is a

2981
02:55:46,180 --> 02:55:49,300
question for me. Adam, you are
the pod father, so we need a

2982
02:55:49,300 --> 02:55:52,000
judgment rendered on this. My
complaint is that the term

2983
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:56,680
podcast has been hijacked by
YouTubers. I don't believe that

2984
02:55:56,680 --> 02:55:59,200
those who are doing video only
shows and uploading them to

2985
02:55:59,200 --> 02:56:02,520
YouTube or other platforms are
true podcasts. I have long held

2986
02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:06,000
that audio only broadcast was
the only true podcaster. Radio

2987
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:09,240
Station and TV stations both
broadcast, blah, blah, blah, his

2988
02:56:09,240 --> 02:56:13,500
question, unless a broadcaster
is using an RSS feed, are they a

2989
02:56:13,500 --> 02:56:16,860
true podcaster? Omega Man, by
the way, he has about 18,000

2990
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:20,240
episodes of his podcast. He's
been around for a long time. I

2991
02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:20,720
know him,

2992
02:56:21,380 --> 02:56:22,100
Unknown: and he's got a

2993
02:56:22,100 --> 02:56:27,260
Adam Curry: pet peeve, yes,
well, people call a video with

2994
02:56:27,260 --> 02:56:30,260
the people sitting around a desk
with headphones and mics, big

2995
02:56:30,260 --> 02:56:33,980
cans and mics. They call that a
podcast. They will be sadly

2996
02:56:33,980 --> 02:56:38,540
disappointed when their audience
is pushed away by the algos

2997
02:56:38,540 --> 02:56:41,860
because they didn't have an RSS
feed for people to subscribe

2998
02:56:41,860 --> 02:56:47,440
with the most powerful sentence
in media today is, or wherever

2999
02:56:47,440 --> 02:56:51,280
you get your podcasts, and that
only works if you have an RSS

3000
02:56:51,280 --> 02:56:56,620
feed. It can be audio or video.
For all I care, so I

3001
02:56:56,620 --> 02:56:59,800
John C Dvorak: consider RSS
that's important, not anything

3002
02:56:59,800 --> 02:57:00,600
else. Correct.

3003
02:57:00,660 --> 02:57:04,200
Adam Curry: Correct. That is my
judgment, is so be it? Yeah,

3004
02:57:04,200 --> 02:57:04,440
well,

3005
02:57:04,440 --> 02:57:09,120
John C Dvorak: you probably be
the guy. Okay, Robert, by the

3006
02:57:09,120 --> 02:57:11,220
way, I should mention I got
another note from someone. I

3007
02:57:11,220 --> 02:57:14,820
don't know if we have it listed
anywhere, but yes, somebody said

3008
02:57:14,820 --> 02:57:18,420
that they noticed that Tucker
Carlson is say, claiming that

3009
02:57:18,420 --> 02:57:20,840
Joe Rogan invented podcasting.

3010
02:57:21,200 --> 02:57:24,320
Adam Curry: I don't think he
said he invented podcasting. I

3011
02:57:24,320 --> 02:57:28,220
think he said he was the first
guy, the pioneer, and it's okay,

3012
02:57:28,280 --> 02:57:35,840
because it's okay. I don't mind.
I don't think so, and I

3013
02:57:35,840 --> 02:57:38,960
appreciate that, that you say
that, well, I'm

3014
02:57:38,960 --> 02:57:41,320
John C Dvorak: not saying it
insincerely. No, I know you're

3015
02:57:41,320 --> 02:57:44,680
not. I know you're not. Robert
Pett is up. He's in Sacramento,

3016
02:57:44,680 --> 02:57:50,260
California, 100 bucks. Lynn
weigert in Maplewood, Minnesota,

3017
02:57:50,560 --> 02:57:55,060
$100 and she got a birthday call
up for Shirley, furious at Twin

3018
02:57:55,060 --> 02:57:58,540
Cities, yes, and she sent a nice
note. Thank you very much.

3019
02:57:58,600 --> 02:58:01,500
Vince. I think there's something
in there for you. Vincent,

3020
02:58:01,980 --> 02:58:07,020
Levitt, levitchy. Le levitchi
Live itchy laveci in Cherry

3021
02:58:07,020 --> 02:58:08,760
Hill, New Jersey, 808.

3022
02:58:09,540 --> 02:58:11,160
Adam Curry: There we go. Oh,
wait a minute. Wait a minute.

3023
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:15,180
Wait a minute. Lynn, she did say
that this is, I have to mention

3024
02:58:15,180 --> 02:58:19,020
this because it's a birthday. My
eldest, Alex, aka surly furious

3025
02:58:19,020 --> 02:58:22,040
of the Twin Cities, is having a
birthday on october 11 as my

3026
02:58:22,040 --> 02:58:26,540
birthday gift to him. This is an
awesome mom. I'm making a

3027
02:58:26,540 --> 02:58:30,260
donation in his name. He didn't
ask for any jingles, but I'd

3028
02:58:30,260 --> 02:58:31,820
like to hear the backup to the
backup

3029
02:58:31,820 --> 02:58:34,160
Unknown: to the backup, a backup
and a backup to that backup and

3030
02:58:34,160 --> 02:58:36,140
a backup to the backup to the
backup. He and his

3031
02:58:36,140 --> 02:58:38,720
Adam Curry: beautiful wife are
having human resource number

3032
02:58:38,720 --> 02:58:42,160
four this month. I have, all
right, I've ordered the no

3033
02:58:42,160 --> 02:58:45,640
agenda onesie from the no agenda
shop. No agenda shop.com. Thank

3034
02:58:45,640 --> 02:58:49,060
you for all the in depth media
deconstruction work you both do.

3035
02:58:49,180 --> 02:58:52,780
So very glad no agenda exists.
Thank you, Wynn, Thank you Lynn,

3036
02:58:52,780 --> 02:58:55,720
that's very kind of you. Then
I'm glad we caught that one.

3037
02:58:55,720 --> 02:58:56,320
Yes,

3038
02:58:56,860 --> 02:58:59,980
John C Dvorak: so the no agenda
shop has onesies they do, they

3039
02:58:59,980 --> 02:59:03,180
do. Yeah, that's great. Kevin
McLaughlin, Concord, North

3040
02:59:03,180 --> 02:59:06,420
Carolina, the Archduke of Luna,
lover of American boobs, comes

3041
02:59:06,420 --> 02:59:09,900
in with the 808 donation, along
with William Galt in Naples,

3042
02:59:09,900 --> 02:59:19,080
Florida, 808 Matt bolki, B, O,
E, H, L, k, e, in Minnetonka,

3043
02:59:19,440 --> 02:59:24,980
Minnesota, 7903 Cameron Ling in
North Branch, Minnesota, right

3044
02:59:24,980 --> 02:59:29,420
next door is 7104 Not really.
Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas,

3045
02:59:29,420 --> 02:59:33,440
606, small boobs. James
Edmondson in South Plainfield,

3046
02:59:33,440 --> 02:59:39,080
New Jersey, 5510 Paul castle in
Kerrville. Carvis K, E, R

3047
02:59:39,500 --> 02:59:39,980
Kerrville.

3048
02:59:39,980 --> 02:59:42,460
Adam Curry: It's Kerrville down
the road. Half an hour down the

3049
02:59:42,460 --> 02:59:43,300
road, Kerrville

3050
02:59:43,720 --> 02:59:47,080
John C Dvorak: right down the
road. You take a left at the gas

3051
02:59:47,080 --> 02:59:50,380
station, the only one in the
area where they have

3052
02:59:50,380 --> 02:59:53,560
Adam Curry: the jail for the
criminally insane.

3053
02:59:53,860 --> 02:59:56,200
John C Dvorak: They got the
criminally insane. There they

3054
02:59:56,200 --> 03:00:01,200
do, sir Jackson and hope.
Really, Paul's not one of them.

3055
03:00:01,440 --> 03:00:05,160
Sir Jackson and level in Texas,
5270 these are all $50

3056
03:00:05,460 --> 03:00:08,340
donations, the name and location
they should do but, but we do

3057
03:00:08,340 --> 03:00:11,640
have Baron anonymous cop, our
buddy in Redwood City, also,

3058
03:00:11,640 --> 03:00:19,380
fellow ham. 5150 coal dial in
Farina, Illinois, 5050 which is

3059
03:00:19,380 --> 03:00:23,840
the refers to, I think,
Kerrville. And now we got the

3060
03:00:23,840 --> 03:00:30,920
$50 donors, 51 and 50 Oh, 51
you're right. 5150 Yeah, 5050.

3061
03:00:31,280 --> 03:00:35,540
Is just a ice a bar that's a
half sherbert and half ice

3062
03:00:35,540 --> 03:00:39,560
cream. Kevin dills,
Huntersville, North Carolina. 50

3063
03:00:39,560 --> 03:00:45,340
Christian, Christian Freeman in
San Marcos, Texas. Diane

3064
03:00:45,340 --> 03:00:49,600
schwanabeck, swanebeck in
johnsburg, Illinois. Philip

3065
03:00:49,600 --> 03:00:55,240
Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
Michael Peratt in Salem, Oregon.

3066
03:00:55,960 --> 03:01:00,840
Michael Thompson in new brown
fells, Texas, slowly I turned

3067
03:01:01,020 --> 03:01:05,580
Chris Lewinsky, our buddy in
Sherwood Park, Alberta. Easy

3068
03:01:05,580 --> 03:01:08,580
landscapes. If you're in North
Stonington, Connecticut, you

3069
03:01:08,580 --> 03:01:14,340
should check them out. And Alan
Bean, good. He's actually a

3070
03:01:14,340 --> 03:01:18,840
baron in Beaverton, Oregon, and
last on our very short list

3071
03:01:18,840 --> 03:01:23,840
today, Sir Jerry wing and Roth
in Saugus, California. Want to

3072
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:25,700
thank these people for making
shows 1704

3073
03:01:26,900 --> 03:01:29,900
Adam Curry: actually happened
and again. Thank you to everyone

3074
03:01:29,900 --> 03:01:32,960
who came in under $50 for
reasons of anonymity, I see you.

3075
03:01:32,960 --> 03:01:36,320
4999 and of course, the
sustaining donors who went to no

3076
03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:40,660
agenda donations.com chose
either PayPal or stripe. You can

3077
03:01:40,660 --> 03:01:43,900
do whatever you want with
PayPal. You can set up the

3078
03:01:43,900 --> 03:01:46,720
regular recurring payments. You
can make it any amount, any

3079
03:01:46,720 --> 03:01:49,540
period, whatever you want to do.
We appreciate it all as value

3080
03:01:49,540 --> 03:01:53,800
for value. We give it all to
you. We do not have 36 producers

3081
03:01:53,800 --> 03:01:56,800
here on payroll. You are the
producers. You send back time,

3082
03:01:56,800 --> 03:02:00,100
talent or treasure. Thank you so
much. No agenda, donations.com.

3083
03:02:00,520 --> 03:02:02,100
Here's your jobs. Car jobs,

3084
03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:06,420
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

3085
03:02:09,540 --> 03:02:11,880
Adam Curry: Carmen with a go
twist, no agenda, donations.com.

3086
03:02:19,380 --> 03:02:24,020
Well, Kurt Kuiper turned 49 Lynn
Wiig wishes surly, furious of

3087
03:02:24,020 --> 03:02:26,420
the Twin Cities, a very happy
birthday. His birthday was on

3088
03:02:26,420 --> 03:02:29,540
the 11th of October. Our very
own end of show makes her D's

3089
03:02:29,540 --> 03:02:32,780
laugh. Celebrate his birthday
yesterday on the 16th. Heather,

3090
03:02:32,840 --> 03:02:37,100
happy birthday to Elroy up in
Canada, turning 57 on the 19th.

3091
03:02:37,100 --> 03:02:40,780
And the Blom girlfriend with her
smokin, hot boyfriend, sir

3092
03:02:40,780 --> 03:02:44,080
SCOBY, a very happy birthday. As
do we happy birthday from

3093
03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:46,720
everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe?

3094
03:02:55,960 --> 03:03:03,420
Yeah, no. Douchebaggery. Here we
have one, slow down, everybody.

3095
03:03:03,420 --> 03:03:08,340
We have one title change, and
that in this case, is Lydia

3096
03:03:08,520 --> 03:03:12,180
Terry dominelli. We just heard
her. She now, oh, no, wait, I'm

3097
03:03:12,180 --> 03:03:15,120
sorry, she's the dame. My title
change is Baroness night. There

3098
03:03:15,120 --> 03:03:19,080
we go. Now becomes Viscountess,
Knight. Sorry, little mishap

3099
03:03:19,080 --> 03:03:23,180
there in the administration. And
congratulations, Viscount is

3100
03:03:23,180 --> 03:03:25,700
night. Thank you very much for
supporting the best podcast in

3101
03:03:25,700 --> 03:03:29,240
the universe. We appreciate you
very, very much. And now time to

3102
03:03:29,240 --> 03:03:35,540
roll out those Commodores. The
promotion is almost over. It

3103
03:03:35,540 --> 03:03:40,760
ends on the 26th of October.
That will be our 17th

3104
03:03:40,820 --> 03:03:49,420
anniversary. So get them now,
while you can Commodore, Scott

3105
03:03:49,420 --> 03:03:53,620
McKay, Commodore, Agent 99
Commodore, smooth Texas

3106
03:03:53,620 --> 03:03:56,020
highways, Commodore, Dalton s
Fisher, a

3107
03:04:02,500 --> 03:04:06,660
ride. Arriving. Sorry if I freak
out with that one. I grabbed the

3108
03:04:06,660 --> 03:04:08,640
wrong that was different. I
grabbed the wrong one by

3109
03:04:08,640 --> 03:04:09,060
mistake. I

3110
03:04:09,060 --> 03:04:10,500
Unknown: mean, you did that
would hurt, yeah, I'm

3111
03:04:10,500 --> 03:04:13,680
Adam Curry: sorry about that.
That hurt. Much welcome.

3112
03:04:15,360 --> 03:04:18,840
Commodores, you can go to no
agenda rings.com, and there will

3113
03:04:18,840 --> 03:04:23,000
be a Commodore form for you to
fill out what you want exactly

3114
03:04:23,000 --> 03:04:25,520
on your Commodore certificate.
They're beautiful. If you

3115
03:04:25,520 --> 03:04:28,880
haven't seen I'm going to post
it on on my social media today

3116
03:04:28,880 --> 03:04:31,940
so people can make fun of it.
But make fun of me you don't

3117
03:04:31,940 --> 03:04:34,040
want to make fun of the
Commodores, because it's

3118
03:04:34,040 --> 03:04:38,180
beautiful. It's a beautiful
certificate has a nice Commodore

3119
03:04:38,180 --> 03:04:41,620
seal on it, raised seal, the
real deal, with blue little

3120
03:04:41,620 --> 03:04:44,500
ribbons that hang off of it. It
will impress your friends, your

3121
03:04:44,500 --> 03:04:47,920
neighbors and your coworkers.
Perfect framed. It is yes, is

3122
03:04:47,920 --> 03:04:51,280
perfect. It is perfect. Now we
do have that one dame. So we'll

3123
03:04:51,640 --> 03:04:53,560
pull out our Dame blade. Here. I

3124
03:04:53,560 --> 03:04:55,420
John C Dvorak: got the dame
blade right here.

3125
03:04:56,860 --> 03:04:59,800
Adam Curry: Here we go. Lydia
Terry dominelli, I almost gave

3126
03:04:59,800 --> 03:05:03,060
you. Title upgrade. Instead, you
are about to join the round

3127
03:05:03,060 --> 03:05:06,420
table. We are very happy to have
you here and very proud to

3128
03:05:06,420 --> 03:05:12,420
pronounce the KU as Dame pre K
dame of the no agenda round

3129
03:05:12,420 --> 03:05:15,480
table for you. We have rent boys
and Chardonnay. I'm sure you

3130
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:18,120
like that. Harlots and Haldol,
maybe, I don't know. We got

3131
03:05:18,120 --> 03:05:21,080
geasses and sake vodka, Manila
bong hits and bourbon sparkling

3132
03:05:21,080 --> 03:05:24,200
cider and escorts of any
variety, ginger ale and gerbils,

3133
03:05:24,200 --> 03:05:27,680
breast milk and pablon we've got
beers and blunts, organic

3134
03:05:27,680 --> 03:05:31,040
macaroni and plasticizers,
redheads and rise and of course,

3135
03:05:31,040 --> 03:05:35,000
always at the round table are
patented mutton and Mead. And

3136
03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:40,280
welcome to the round table. Dame
pre K go to noagenderrings.com

3137
03:05:41,060 --> 03:05:43,900
that's where you can find your
handsome or beautiful ring. I

3138
03:05:43,900 --> 03:05:47,020
should say it's a signet ring.
So we give you wax that you can

3139
03:05:47,020 --> 03:05:50,860
use to imprint your seal of
approval on your important

3140
03:05:50,860 --> 03:05:53,320
correspondence. And of course,
it always comes with a

3141
03:05:53,320 --> 03:05:56,140
certificate of authenticity.
Thank you very much for becoming

3142
03:05:56,200 --> 03:06:00,760
dame. Thank you to everybody who
supported us for Episode 1704 of

3143
03:06:00,760 --> 03:06:02,520
the best podcast in the
universe.

3144
03:06:09,720 --> 03:06:14,160
We do not have any meet up
reports, but there is a meet up

3145
03:06:14,160 --> 03:06:17,700
taking place today. It starts
this evening. It's Charlotte's

3146
03:06:17,700 --> 03:06:20,600
thirsty Third Thursday monthly
meet up at edge Tavern in

3147
03:06:20,600 --> 03:06:24,080
Charlotte, North Carolina,
tomorrow. It's the big one. It's

3148
03:06:24,080 --> 03:06:28,520
the meet up at Fred the 1776 at
bar, full moon in bed and

3149
03:06:28,520 --> 03:06:31,940
breakfast. That'll be at five
o'clock in Fredericksburg,

3150
03:06:31,940 --> 03:06:37,460
Texas, our very own, Matt long
FBg, Matt is is organizing that

3151
03:06:37,460 --> 03:06:40,660
with his lovely wife, Gail.
We're looking forward to it.

3152
03:06:41,080 --> 03:06:45,040
Tina will be there. A lot of
your no agenda, family from from

3153
03:06:45,040 --> 03:06:48,100
Texas will be joining we're
looking forward to it's going to

3154
03:06:48,100 --> 03:06:51,940
be a good meet up. If you're
bringing on the spot donation

3155
03:06:51,940 --> 03:06:55,180
reminder, please put an envelope
with your name so that we can

3156
03:06:55,180 --> 03:06:57,400
credit you properly. And we're
looking forward to that

3157
03:06:57,400 --> 03:07:00,040
tomorrow, on Saturday, the
Dallas Fort Worth mid cities

3158
03:07:00,040 --> 03:07:03,420
meet up 1130 in the morning at
Bourbon Street Bar and Grill.

3159
03:07:03,420 --> 03:07:06,660
Can never start too early there
in Dallas, Fort Worth actually,

3160
03:07:06,660 --> 03:07:12,540
it's the Bedford Texas is is the
exact town, but that is the DFW

3161
03:07:12,600 --> 03:07:16,620
area. Also the South Jersey,
Hurricane election watch party

3162
03:07:16,860 --> 03:07:21,560
one o'clock at the double nickel
Brewing Company in Pennsauken

3163
03:07:21,560 --> 03:07:24,860
Township, New Jersey. Also on
Saturday, the shrunken amygdala

3164
03:07:24,860 --> 03:07:28,160
support group at two o'clock at
Taft's reportium in Cincinnati,

3165
03:07:28,160 --> 03:07:31,760
Ohio. The Denver meetup kicks
off on Saturday at nine o'clock

3166
03:07:31,760 --> 03:07:36,440
in the evening at 7100 oak farm
Arvada, Colorado. And then on

3167
03:07:36,440 --> 03:07:38,660
Sunday, our next show day,
Central Florida's Second

3168
03:07:38,660 --> 03:07:41,920
Amendment Sunday meet up 11 in
the morning. Okay. Corral, gun

3169
03:07:41,920 --> 03:07:45,940
club, you should RSVP. Your
email is recommended to do that,

3170
03:07:46,300 --> 03:07:51,880
because this is a shooting
meetup, a shoot up. Ok, ok. Chip

3171
03:07:51,940 --> 03:07:55,960
OK, Okeechobee, Florida. There
you go. This is the one the

3172
03:07:55,960 --> 03:08:00,660
Reiki princess was trying to get
RSVPs for. So email to RSVP to

3173
03:08:00,660 --> 03:08:04,020
her, and also the Black Hills.
No agenda, meet up on Sunday,

3174
03:08:04,020 --> 03:08:06,780
three o'clock at Crown peak,
brewing in Spearfish, South

3175
03:08:06,780 --> 03:08:10,860
Dakota, and coming up shortly in
London, another one of those

3176
03:08:10,860 --> 03:08:12,240
great London meetups.

3177
03:08:15,660 --> 03:08:21,020
Unknown: London producers on the
26th of this month. Get your

3178
03:08:21,020 --> 03:08:25,220
finely tuned amygdalas over to
the lore of the land pub in

3179
03:08:25,220 --> 03:08:31,580
Fitzrovia, because from 3:30pm a
meet up will be getting going.

3180
03:08:31,700 --> 03:08:37,580
Yes, we'll be there raising a
Flagon of mead to celebrate the

3181
03:08:37,580 --> 03:08:41,140
no agenda show turning 17. Ah.
17.

3182
03:08:50,080 --> 03:08:52,240
Adam Curry: Well done, gruff,
those are your meetups, and

3183
03:08:52,240 --> 03:08:55,000
there's a lot more coming up. Go
to no agenda meetups.com. Where

3184
03:08:55,000 --> 03:08:58,540
you can find all of the meetups
listed by date. You can search

3185
03:08:58,540 --> 03:09:01,620
by area. If you can't find one
near you start one yourself.

3186
03:09:01,620 --> 03:09:03,840
It's easy and always guaranteed
a party.

3187
03:09:04,020 --> 03:09:05,040
Unknown: Sometimes you

3188
03:09:05,100 --> 03:09:13,860
wanna go hang out with all the
nights and days. It's like a

3189
03:09:13,860 --> 03:09:14,220
part

3190
03:09:20,000 --> 03:09:26,240
Adam Curry: Hey, it's like a
party, like a party, no agenda,

3191
03:09:26,240 --> 03:09:30,200
meetups.com. You're swinging for
the fences with the ISO list

3192
03:09:30,200 --> 03:09:32,660
here, from what I can see, I
only have one because I spent my

3193
03:09:32,660 --> 03:09:36,260
time doing other things. Here it
is, and I

3194
03:09:36,260 --> 03:09:36,860
Unknown: love it.

3195
03:09:36,920 --> 03:09:37,580
I love it.

3196
03:09:37,640 --> 03:09:43,060
John C Dvorak: I love it. Ooh,
oh, I picked a good one. Yeah, I

3197
03:09:43,060 --> 03:09:45,400
did. Well, I've got a five. Yes,
I

3198
03:09:45,400 --> 03:09:46,120
Adam Curry: noticed.

3199
03:09:46,720 --> 03:09:48,580
John C Dvorak: Let's start at
the bottom. Let's start with

3200
03:09:48,580 --> 03:09:49,300
unstable,

3201
03:09:49,900 --> 03:09:52,300
Unknown: unstable and unhinged.

3202
03:09:54,460 --> 03:09:57,640
Adam Curry: Her voice is quite
grating to me, but yes, yeah,

3203
03:09:57,640 --> 03:09:58,780
that's

3204
03:09:58,780 --> 03:09:59,920
John C Dvorak: the voice of a
Brahmin. I.

3205
03:10:05,100 --> 03:10:07,860
Oh, now here's one. You will
like premium

3206
03:10:08,220 --> 03:10:09,600
Unknown: premium okay,

3207
03:10:09,720 --> 03:10:12,120
it's premium content. Oh, yes, I

3208
03:10:12,120 --> 03:10:15,720
Adam Curry: do like that. It's
premium content. Content, nice,

3209
03:10:15,720 --> 03:10:16,260
nice.

3210
03:10:17,280 --> 03:10:18,420
John C Dvorak: Go with nuts.

3211
03:10:18,720 --> 03:10:20,300
Unknown: The situation is nuts.

3212
03:10:22,340 --> 03:10:25,100
Adam Curry: Also good. You've
muddy,

3213
03:10:25,100 --> 03:10:31,040
John C Dvorak: too muddy.
Kidding me, no, that's really

3214
03:10:31,100 --> 03:10:34,100
bad. That's no good. And then
the last one I liked a lot,

3215
03:10:34,160 --> 03:10:35,720
which is, hello,

3216
03:10:36,740 --> 03:10:37,820
Unknown: hello.

3217
03:10:38,000 --> 03:10:39,140
We have a winner.

3218
03:10:40,400 --> 03:10:46,900
Adam Curry: Wow, I would have to
say for me, it's between mine. I

3219
03:10:46,900 --> 03:10:48,940
Unknown: love it, I love it, I
love it,

3220
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:52,840
Adam Curry: and it's premium
content. I'm kind of leaving How

3221
03:10:52,840 --> 03:10:55,480
John C Dvorak: about this? The
two combined is dynamite. I love

3222
03:10:55,480 --> 03:10:57,820
it, I love it, I love it, it's
premium content. Let

3223
03:10:57,820 --> 03:10:59,260
Unknown: me see, and I love it,
I

3224
03:10:59,260 --> 03:11:00,600
love it, I love it. It's

3225
03:11:00,600 --> 03:11:01,860
premium content. I

3226
03:11:01,860 --> 03:11:03,540
Adam Curry: think we have a
winner. We're gonna go with

3227
03:11:03,540 --> 03:11:06,060
that. And now, ladies and
gentlemen, as always, the most

3228
03:11:06,060 --> 03:11:07,560
best part of the show is called
Tip

3229
03:11:13,200 --> 03:11:15,840
Unknown: of the day, and
sometimes,

3230
03:11:18,360 --> 03:11:20,240
John C Dvorak: okay, so I've
been cooking over a fire for the

3231
03:11:20,240 --> 03:11:22,460
last 4050, years.

3232
03:11:22,760 --> 03:11:25,940
Adam Curry: What kind of fire
like? Fire, just fire, open

3233
03:11:25,940 --> 03:11:29,720
fire, fire, use

3234
03:11:29,720 --> 03:11:33,140
John C Dvorak: every kind of
cooking thing ever. Finally, you

3235
03:11:33,140 --> 03:11:35,540
look on these, you know,
vertical smokers. They're one of

3236
03:11:35,540 --> 03:11:38,120
the best ones, if you ever find
it. They got bought up by

3237
03:11:38,120 --> 03:11:41,020
Brinkman, and they ruined the
brand, which is a Cajun cooker,

3238
03:11:41,020 --> 03:11:45,940
which is dynamite, vertical
cooker that used charcoal. But

3239
03:11:46,720 --> 03:11:49,780
I'm now is the time to start
experimenting, because people

3240
03:11:49,780 --> 03:11:52,180
get these traegers, like
Horowitz has one

3241
03:11:52,180 --> 03:11:54,520
Adam Curry: of I have a I have a
pit boss.

3242
03:11:55,780 --> 03:11:58,780
John C Dvorak: They get, they
become very expensive, really.

3243
03:11:59,800 --> 03:12:01,260
Well, the traegers cost.

3244
03:12:01,980 --> 03:12:05,640
Adam Curry: I mean, the purchase
price is not it was a gift for

3245
03:12:05,640 --> 03:12:09,120
my 60th birthday, so it was
free. So what do you say to

3246
03:12:09,120 --> 03:12:10,500
that? Yeah,

3247
03:12:10,500 --> 03:12:15,840
John C Dvorak: well, that's a
good deal. So I'm going to, I'm

3248
03:12:15,840 --> 03:12:18,540
experimenting now, and I'm
thinking, this is the way to go.

3249
03:12:18,540 --> 03:12:21,860
These things are for people are
amateurs. They don't want to

3250
03:12:21,860 --> 03:12:26,360
learn how to use a new device,
take a look at the master build.

3251
03:12:26,360 --> 03:12:30,320
This is the one I have. Is a
master build, 30 inch digital

3252
03:12:30,380 --> 03:12:33,500
electric that uses smoke
pellets, not pellets, but

3253
03:12:33,500 --> 03:12:37,640
chunks. You could probably put
smoke pellets in it and it's and

3254
03:12:37,640 --> 03:12:41,680
you plug and go, you just set it
for 12 hours of 15 hours or 16

3255
03:12:41,680 --> 03:12:45,880
hours, and just let it rip. You
set it outside. It outside,

3256
03:12:45,880 --> 03:12:49,240
though, right? Yeah, yeah, duh.
You put it outside. It's like a

3257
03:12:49,300 --> 03:12:52,120
dog. It's a funny looking box.
That's like It looks like a

3258
03:12:52,120 --> 03:12:54,520
professional smoker, only is
smaller, looks like a small

3259
03:12:54,520 --> 03:12:59,380
refrigerator, locks and seals.
And you can put sauce. You can

3260
03:12:59,380 --> 03:13:04,440
put four pork butts in it, you
can put two, two, not one, but

3261
03:13:04,440 --> 03:13:09,480
212, pound turkeys in the thing,
whoa. It holds a lot. It's got

3262
03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:13,680
four racks, and it's a vertical
smoker. And the one model I was

3263
03:13:13,860 --> 03:13:18,300
playing with is the M, the m8,
2071117,

3264
03:13:20,880 --> 03:13:23,000
Adam Curry: what is this? Run
you this device? What is the

3265
03:13:23,000 --> 03:13:27,740
typical well manufactured that
suggested retail, MSRP, the

3266
03:13:27,740 --> 03:13:30,080
John C Dvorak: manufacturer
suggested prices, 250

3267
03:13:31,400 --> 03:13:34,280
Adam Curry: Oh, that's that's
affordable. It's

3268
03:13:34,280 --> 03:13:37,340
John C Dvorak: affordable. I got
it during the Amazon Prime days

3269
03:13:37,340 --> 03:13:42,820
for 188 so they put them on
sale. That's

3270
03:13:42,940 --> 03:13:45,640
Adam Curry: this one. That's a
Hitler number 88 you bought a

3271
03:13:45,700 --> 03:13:47,080
Nazi device, yeah,

3272
03:13:47,080 --> 03:13:50,860
John C Dvorak: Heil Hitler. To
what it the 88 but one, but it's

3273
03:13:50,860 --> 03:13:57,640
only 188 oh, and this, for
people who want, like the idea

3274
03:13:57,640 --> 03:14:01,140
of cooking slow and low, this
thing won't go beyond 270

3275
03:14:01,680 --> 03:14:04,380
degrees. It is, basically, is
designed to cook at 220

3276
03:14:04,800 --> 03:14:07,320
Adam Curry: to 270 Yeah, that
sounds right. It just when

3277
03:14:08,400 --> 03:14:11,280
John C Dvorak: you're using fire
you you have to be careful,

3278
03:14:11,280 --> 03:14:16,020
because the fire a good bar, a
Texas style side burner, don't

3279
03:14:16,020 --> 03:14:18,300
get up to all of a sudden. You
go out there. And the things at

3280
03:14:18,300 --> 03:14:26,300
353, 75, on fire, because
there's fire involved. But, and

3281
03:14:26,300 --> 03:14:30,680
this is this, to me, is
something of a cheat, and I just

3282
03:14:30,680 --> 03:14:33,320
wanted to learn how to use it,
but I it's a cheat that I think

3283
03:14:33,320 --> 03:14:35,840
a lot of people would probably
benefit from, because I don't

3284
03:14:35,840 --> 03:14:39,380
think everyone really wants to
cook with wood, burning wood

3285
03:14:39,560 --> 03:14:45,160
constantly. And it's just an
idea for people out there that,

3286
03:14:45,280 --> 03:14:49,060
yeah, you don't want to spend
the 500 bucks for a Traeger or a

3287
03:14:49,060 --> 03:14:50,800
propane device. No,

3288
03:14:51,040 --> 03:14:53,740
Adam Curry: the troll room is
saying it's a Zyklon B vertical

3289
03:14:53,740 --> 03:14:58,360
smoker. They're sick. John, I'm
sorry. They're sick. They're

3290
03:14:58,360 --> 03:15:02,640
sick. They're sick. This is a
good tip, and you can find all

3291
03:15:02,640 --> 03:15:07,620
of John's tips@tipotherday.net
or at No agendafund.com, both

3292
03:15:07,620 --> 03:15:11,340
outstanding websites. This is a
great tip. I think this, I

3293
03:15:11,340 --> 03:15:14,460
really like it that price is,
can't be beat. Can't be beat,

3294
03:15:14,460 --> 03:15:16,800
John C Dvorak: I'd say. And it
gives people the opportunity to

3295
03:15:16,800 --> 03:15:22,640
cooks, to cook properly, which
is a slow cooking, slow cooking

3296
03:15:22,640 --> 03:15:26,540
with smoke. And you can also buy
an accessory for it, which I

3297
03:15:26,540 --> 03:15:29,660
haven't bought yet, but I know
I'm going to and eventually, for

3298
03:15:29,660 --> 03:15:33,260
about 60 bucks, is an accessory
that slips into where they where

3299
03:15:33,260 --> 03:15:36,980
you put your wood chips for
smoking. It slips into that and

3300
03:15:36,980 --> 03:15:42,640
smokes on the side. And you can
cold smoke, no commercial.

3301
03:15:42,820 --> 03:15:48,280
Smoking is an art Are you done?
Yeah, I'm done.

3302
03:15:48,460 --> 03:15:50,440
Unknown: No commercials. More
content.

3303
03:15:51,760 --> 03:15:53,920
John C Dvorak: Your no agenda.
Tip of the day, that's

3304
03:15:53,920 --> 03:15:56,020
Adam Curry: right, don't worry,
I'll edit that. It'll sound so

3305
03:15:56,020 --> 03:16:01,440
professional. That's right. We
serve you with media

3306
03:16:01,440 --> 03:16:04,980
deconstruction to make sense of
your life. I think we brought it

3307
03:16:04,980 --> 03:16:08,280
for you today. If you got any
value out of this podcast,

3308
03:16:08,640 --> 03:16:12,840
because we have an RSS feed, it
is a podcast, then go to no

3309
03:16:12,840 --> 03:16:17,160
agenda donations.com and keep us
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3310
03:16:17,160 --> 03:16:22,100
and talent. We take all three
coming up end of show mixes.

3311
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:25,520
There's some good ones. We have.
Robert Darby, who distributed a

3312
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:32,060
banger, a banger about Beirut.
OYSTEIN Berger, he has a lot of

3313
03:16:32,060 --> 03:16:34,040
his own songs. You should look
them up@podcastindex.org

3314
03:16:35,840 --> 03:16:38,900
oistinberg, he did a lot of
value for value songs. Tom

3315
03:16:38,900 --> 03:16:42,580
Starkweather, the melodious owl
himself and Hugh Allison. All

3316
03:16:42,580 --> 03:16:46,720
fantastic. Coming up next on no
agenda stream.com. Or no agenda

3317
03:16:46,720 --> 03:16:49,840
dot stream. We have the
millennial media offensive. This

3318
03:16:49,840 --> 03:16:54,040
is the amerifad edition. You
will not want to listen, coming

3319
03:16:54,040 --> 03:16:57,580
to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, home of the

3320
03:16:57,580 --> 03:17:00,360
no agenda meetup tomorrow in
Fredericksburg in the morning.

3321
03:17:00,360 --> 03:17:02,880
Everybody. I'm Adam curry from
Northern

3322
03:17:02,880 --> 03:17:07,320
John C Dvorak: Silicon Valley,
where it's going. It rained

3323
03:17:07,320 --> 03:17:10,500
actually a couple days ago, but
it's nice today. I'm John C

3324
03:17:10,500 --> 03:17:11,280
Dvorak. Remember

3325
03:17:11,280 --> 03:17:13,860
Adam Curry: us at no agenda,
donations.com. Until Sunday.

3326
03:17:13,860 --> 03:17:16,980
Adios move photos of hooey,
hooey and such.

3327
03:17:17,220 --> 03:17:20,960
Unknown: Pack some clothes and
some shoes back to the land of

3328
03:17:20,960 --> 03:17:27,980
the kangaroos for there ain't no
free planes anymore, and all

3329
03:17:27,980 --> 03:17:32,240
those pagers in the bin because
babies come to New the men and

3330
03:17:32,660 --> 03:17:39,020
in the air, there's lots of
flying drones in the tunnels

3331
03:17:39,080 --> 03:17:43,540
underground above the schoolyard
can be found. It's time to run

3332
03:17:43,540 --> 03:17:49,540
and say goodbye. Proxy war.
There's weapons stored in every

3333
03:17:49,540 --> 03:17:53,260
house. An album speaks for both
sides of this man. There'll be

3334
03:17:53,260 --> 03:18:00,640
no ceasefire now, and that's for
sure. Beirut International

3335
03:18:00,640 --> 03:18:10,920
Airport, where Israeli bombs fly
high, Beirut International

3336
03:18:10,920 --> 03:18:23,420
Airport, where his border comes
to die, a diplomat from Iran, a

3337
03:18:23,660 --> 03:18:31,280
pager blew up in his hand down
Israeli hazing paradise of

3338
03:18:31,280 --> 03:18:36,440
having fun with virgin girls,
casting out heavenly Pearl, the

3339
03:18:36,440 --> 03:18:39,380
IDF will reunite and where
there's power.

3340
03:18:42,020 --> 03:18:52,180
Slow. Slopping, hopping,
slopping, slopping up and

3341
03:18:52,180 --> 03:18:52,540
hopping,

3342
03:18:58,120 --> 03:19:03,720
slopping hoppin, hoppin slopping
up and hopping, the hopping the

3343
03:19:03,780 --> 03:19:07,200
hop, slopping up and hop. Here's
the thing, flopping up and

3344
03:19:07,200 --> 03:19:09,960
hopping, the hopping the hop,
flopping up and hop. At

3345
03:19:18,540 --> 03:19:20,300
Adam Curry: least you're
slapping swapping out the

3346
03:19:20,420 --> 03:19:22,700
swapping out the lead for
copper. How about that? Some

3347
03:19:23,840 --> 03:19:26,000
Unknown: cities and states have
actually already been swapping

3348
03:19:26,000 --> 03:19:27,260
out those lead bites for copper,

3349
03:19:28,280 --> 03:19:31,760
Adam Curry: swapping out the
swapping out the head fights for

3350
03:19:33,260 --> 03:19:36,980
copper. How can we we don't get
gigs like this? This is a great

3351
03:19:36,980 --> 03:19:38,540
gig. I want to swap and hop

3352
03:19:41,480 --> 03:19:45,220
Unknown: I have watched in from
the Oval Office to the situation

3353
03:19:45,220 --> 03:19:49,600
room, and he has the judgment
and the experiment and

3354
03:19:49,600 --> 03:19:53,740
experience. Know what I'm
talking about, you and I both

3355
03:19:53,740 --> 03:19:56,080
know what I actually don't. What
are you talking about? What I'm

3356
03:19:56,080 --> 03:19:59,020
talking about is that an
election for President of the

3357
03:19:59,020 --> 03:20:02,460
United States. It's. Not
supposed to be easy, I know, but

3358
03:20:02,460 --> 03:20:06,720
it's not supposed to be. And you
and I both know that, and you

3359
03:20:06,720 --> 03:20:07,560
and I both know

3360
03:20:07,560 --> 03:20:10,080
Madam Vice President, they're
wrapping me very hard here.

3361
03:20:10,200 --> 03:20:11,460
Thank you for the time. Thank

3362
03:20:11,460 --> 03:20:12,840
you for the time. Good to meet
you. Thank

3363
03:20:12,840 --> 03:20:13,740
you very much. Thank

3364
03:20:14,820 --> 03:20:18,480
you. Yeah, you know black people
if you're voting for Donald

3365
03:20:18,480 --> 03:20:22,280
Trump and not Kamala Harris,
this this is unacceptable.

3366
03:20:22,820 --> 03:20:28,100
Kamala Harris is losing. She's
not gonna win. Win. What you

3367
03:20:28,160 --> 03:20:31,100
thought you were doing Barack
Obama, or you just stepped out

3368
03:20:31,100 --> 03:20:36,140
there, all you did was piss
black men, almost black. This

3369
03:20:36,680 --> 03:20:40,240
all I gotta say to you, one,
two, jump is coming for you.

3370
03:20:40,540 --> 03:20:44,980
Three, four, you won't win. No,
no, five, six, the election was

3371
03:20:45,100 --> 03:20:51,160
fixed. 78, y'all made a mistake.
910, Trump is coming again. 19,

3372
03:20:51,640 --> 03:20:52,660
Trump is coming again.

3373
03:20:58,300 --> 03:21:02,580
All you did was piss black men
on why y'all think the American

3374
03:21:02,580 --> 03:21:06,180
people? Why y'all think the
Democrat Party? Own black folks?

3375
03:21:06,180 --> 03:21:06,300
I

3376
03:21:06,300 --> 03:21:07,500
love black men. I

3377
03:21:09,420 --> 03:21:14,220
love them. Trump is coming
again. Trump

3378
03:21:15,360 --> 03:21:16,680
is coming. I have gone through

3379
03:21:18,060 --> 03:21:26,480
the roof. We see them play. Is
coming again.

3380
03:21:27,020 --> 03:21:29,420
I don't do quite as well with
black women, I must say.org/n,

3381
03:21:41,660 --> 03:21:43,300
a and I love it,

3382
03:21:43,300 --> 03:21:44,860
I love it. I love it. It's

3383
03:21:44,860 --> 03:21:46,120
premium content. I.