1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,600 John C Dvorak: And they've literally scared their own pants 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,080 off. 3 00:00:04,380 --> 00:00:06,480 Unknown: Adam curry. John C Dvorak, 4 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:10,620 Adam Curry: 2024 this your award winning Cuba nation. Media 5 00:00:10,620 --> 00:00:12,300 assassination episode 1707 6 00:00:13,140 --> 00:00:15,000 Unknown: this is no agenda, 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,080 Adam Curry: celebrating 17 years and broadcasting live from the 8 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:23,780 heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region, 9 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:26,660 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,240 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,200 asking the same question, What the hell is the appeal of Snoop 12 00:00:33,260 --> 00:00:35,180 Dogg? I'm John C Dvorak. It's 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,180 Unknown: crack bottom Buzzkill. In the morning, 14 00:00:39,980 --> 00:00:42,460 Adam Curry: I was asking that throughout the entire Olympics, 15 00:00:42,460 --> 00:00:45,340 like, what is the appeal of Snoop Dogg? And people love him, 16 00:00:45,340 --> 00:00:48,100 somehow. Who a Snoop Dogg? His 17 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:49,240 John C Dvorak: agent for sure. 18 00:00:49,660 --> 00:00:53,740 Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go. Oh boy, yes. It's time to roll 19 00:00:53,740 --> 00:00:58,720 out the big horns, like we do from time to time. 17 years 20 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:01,440 congratulations, John, 21 00:01:04,019 --> 00:01:05,459 John C Dvorak: congratulations to you. 22 00:01:06,419 --> 00:01:08,639 Adam Curry: Listen to these numbers. Yeah, we did we we're 23 00:01:08,639 --> 00:01:13,619 still alive. We're still here. Seven so it's 17 years. Episode 24 00:01:13,619 --> 00:01:19,559 1707 on october 27 that's a lot of sevens. 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,500 John C Dvorak: Ah, sevens. New number 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Adam Curry: has very, very good numbers. Very good numbers. 27 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,260 Yeah. So what do you say? Four more years? 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,220 John C Dvorak: Four more years, four more years. 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Adam Curry: I think we make it to 20 if one of us hasn't died 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,140 by then, 21 years has got to be enough of this. You never know 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,680 well, and right before the next election, right before, 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,840 John C Dvorak: right before it, yeah, which should be a whopper. 33 00:01:50,740 --> 00:01:51,220 Yeah, 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,660 Adam Curry: yeah. No kidding, yeah. That was nice to see Joe 35 00:01:55,780 --> 00:02:00,040 uh. Showed everybody that podcasting is kind of important. 36 00:02:01,780 --> 00:02:02,520 Unknown: I like that, 37 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:07,620 John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. It shows that also Trump can talk 38 00:02:07,620 --> 00:02:08,160 forever. 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,900 Adam Curry: Ah, the weave. 40 00:02:10,979 --> 00:02:13,019 John C Dvorak: What's beyond the weave? I've no, I noticed a 41 00:02:13,019 --> 00:02:17,639 couple of things. He Yeah. I was reminded of Jim Rohn. I talked 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,519 about Jim Rome and his sports talk show a number of times in 43 00:02:22,519 --> 00:02:27,379 the past, because there are elements of what he does. It was 44 00:02:27,379 --> 00:02:31,399 a somewhat revolutionary although Rush Limbaugh is the 45 00:02:31,399 --> 00:02:34,159 main guy. In other words, a guy goes on the air and talks for 46 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:41,859 three hours. Man a call maybe, and Rome would talk with, if he 47 00:02:41,859 --> 00:02:46,239 was going to talk about a topic, he would repeat the topic three 48 00:02:46,239 --> 00:02:50,919 or four times from different perspectives, in the same or 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,859 with different intonations. I would just keep going that way. 50 00:02:54,819 --> 00:02:59,919 And he would do that throughout for three hours. Trump, he was 51 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:02,519 right at the beginning. He's going on about something, and he 52 00:03:02,519 --> 00:03:05,279 just and he comes back to it, and he comes back to it, and he 53 00:03:05,279 --> 00:03:08,939 comes back to it. I have to say that after listening to Brogan 54 00:03:08,939 --> 00:03:14,699 in this context, I I put him in as a good cop, police 55 00:03:14,699 --> 00:03:19,619 interrogator. Uh huh, yeah. Excellent interviewer. Over the 56 00:03:19,619 --> 00:03:23,299 years, he's become one, and he managed to, without being a 57 00:03:23,299 --> 00:03:27,499 jerk, yeah, push Trump right back onto the track that he 58 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:30,319 wanted to hear about because he had interests that he wanted to 59 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:35,359 hear about aliens. JFK, he put any and he would push Trump back 60 00:03:35,359 --> 00:03:39,439 again, Trump, because Trump roams around like he'll come 61 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:40,959 around to some of the old story. 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Adam Curry: Look at this chart. He had handouts 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,040 John C Dvorak: so and I got no clips from it, because, for one 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,800 thing, it was boring, I thought, because there's nothing new to 65 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,960 us. And if 66 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Adam Curry: anything, I think it just showed Trump's personality 67 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,820 and willingness to just sit and have a chat for three hours. And 68 00:04:02,820 --> 00:04:05,640 that was really what made it fantastic. I mean, that that's 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:12,480 what made it great, because, and we know that in the past, calls 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,860 have come in from Ivanka and from Eric and what's the other 71 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:20,960 one? Don Jr, like, yeah, yeah. Really, I want to, want to have 72 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:25,340 dad on the show, but you got to come to mar a Lago. And I think, 73 00:04:25,340 --> 00:04:27,740 you know, Rose, Joe was like, No, I gotta go to mar a Lago. 74 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:31,580 Come here, and there'd be no time restriction. And I think 75 00:04:31,580 --> 00:04:35,120 that's really, that's really the win here for Joe and for Trump, 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,580 because it he was, it was a call. 77 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:42,640 John C Dvorak: There's Joe will never have to go anywhere if 78 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:49,780 Trump, all people, Trump exactly had to go there, that means 79 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:54,280 everybody has to go so. So that was a super win for for Joe, 80 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,900 because he doesn't, obviously like to go in the remote. Of 81 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,620 course not. Why bother and so now he's got it made, but I I 82 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,060 have clips from, I thought was at the same time that was going 83 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:13,920 on, Tucker was interviewing Amaryllis Kennedy. 84 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:19,140 Adam Curry: Oh, she's the the CIA daughter in law, yes, 85 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:21,500 John C Dvorak: married to RFJ, 86 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:23,900 Unknown: the third. RFJ, 87 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:31,280 John C Dvorak: RF your. RFK, RFK, RF, l, whatever letter. 88 00:05:31,580 --> 00:05:37,760 RFK, the third. She's married, and she and you could, I, I 89 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,160 don't know. We can run these clips later if you want. But 90 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:44,260 well, she Yeah. Go ahead. She went on for an hour, two and a 91 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:48,100 half hours, and unfortunately, it was like about an hour of 92 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:50,620 content because she was, you could tell, you don't know if 93 00:05:50,620 --> 00:05:55,420 she's still a spook or because she was, you could tell she was 94 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:58,540 very cautious. She was not used to doing this. I've never seen 95 00:05:58,540 --> 00:06:03,900 her before. I've never seen her and she was, she was very 96 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:07,380 measured in what she said about everything, but she said a lot, 97 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,320 and there's a lot of inside stuff that she brought out. 98 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Well, 99 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,620 Adam Curry: I do want to talk about that. I just want to stick 100 00:06:13,620 --> 00:06:16,740 with with Texas for a moment. And now I'm going to bring, I'm 101 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:19,080 going to weave it around to you, John, and weave Good luck. I'm 102 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,480 going to weave it around to you. So what was fascinating about a 103 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,020 lot of the this Rogan thing, I think JD Vance was on Theo 104 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:29,600 Vaughn, which I haven't seen it. People said that was quite 105 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,400 entertaining, and that JD Vance came off very, very good. So 106 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:35,240 then we dance, 107 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,580 John C Dvorak: is it better? Is better than Trump? I think, 108 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:42,100 Adam Curry: yeah, yes. Well, he's the translator, you know, 109 00:06:42,340 --> 00:06:43,300 that 110 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 John C Dvorak: looked a little more mature, kind of weird. 111 00:06:49,180 --> 00:06:52,420 Adam Curry: So the big thing that everybody was waiting for 112 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:57,400 here in Texas, a little further up the street in Houston, was, 113 00:06:57,460 --> 00:07:02,880 once again, the psyop played out by the mainstream media on 114 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:04,620 people who love Kamala, we have some 115 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:09,180 Unknown: big news to share for the Harris campaign. Be hive, 116 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:12,780 none other than Beyonce, will appear with Vice President 117 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:15,720 Harris tomorrow in Texas for learning and NBC. Aaron 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Gilchrist is covering the Harris campaign today from Georgia, 119 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,460 where she's set to appear with Bruce Springsteen, Aaron the 120 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:26,180 boss today. Queen Bee tomorrow. What more do we know? Queen Bee 121 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:26,540 tomorrow? 122 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,320 You know this is news that a lot of people have been waiting to 123 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,520 hear whether or how Beyonce might show her support for 124 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,000 former for vice president Harris. And we have learned from 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,140 three sources our team has that Beyonce will appear with Vice 126 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:44,620 President Harris tomorrow in Houston, Texas, and the source 127 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:48,760 says that Beyonce will perform during that appearance in Texas, 128 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,800 obviously, where she's from. So 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,260 Adam Curry: again, the oh, she's going to perform. And of course, 130 00:07:53,260 --> 00:07:57,400 she did not perform. She did not perform. And I think a lot of 131 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,840 people were disappointed. Once 132 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,500 John C Dvorak: again, Boeing, Kamala, they were booing, they 133 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:05,580 were leaving, and some people had to wait at 10 hours. 134 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:08,880 Supposedly, this could be bull crap, but I don't I can believe 135 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,760 that they would just 10 hours for a free concert. Yes, 136 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:18,180 Adam Curry: yes. And then Beyonce comes up on stage and 137 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:21,500 and talks about how she's a mother. She's here, not as a 138 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:25,160 celebrity. Pay no attention to the outfit, to my entree. I'm 139 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,920 not a celebrity. I'm here as a mother. 140 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Unknown: It's impossible not to feel the energy in this room, 141 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,520 the positivity, 142 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:37,880 the community, the humanity, humanity. 143 00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:43,540 We are at the precipice of an incredible shift, the brink of 144 00:08:43,540 --> 00:08:44,020 history. 145 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:50,380 I'm not here as a celebrity, 146 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,120 I'm not here as a politician. I'm here as a mother. 147 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,940 Adam Curry: Oh, listen to what she says. Listen to what she 148 00:08:57,940 --> 00:08:59,680 says. She's here as a mother. 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,020 Unknown: I'm here as a mother, 150 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,940 a mother who cares deeply 151 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:07,920 about the world. My children 152 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,420 and all of our children live 153 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,160 in a world where we have the freedom to control 154 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,360 our bodies. 155 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,780 Adam Curry: I'm here as a mother to kill your baby. That's what 156 00:09:20,780 --> 00:09:24,140 I'm here for. That's who I am. I'm Beyonce. Here is a mother 157 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,400 right away, right away. That's all that they have now, is 158 00:09:30,020 --> 00:09:32,900 John C Dvorak: no, they have two things, no. Well, Trump 159 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:38,420 Adam Curry: is Hitler and kill babies. And so here's the short 160 00:09:38,420 --> 00:09:43,120 one. So Trump is in in Texas, and here's your typical report. 161 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,140 And former President 162 00:09:44,140 --> 00:09:46,720 Unknown: Trump also made a stop in Texas yesterday while 163 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,680 speaking in Austin. He compared Biden Harris border policies to 164 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:51,340 garbage 165 00:09:51,700 --> 00:09:55,900 like a garbage can, like a garbage can. First time I said 166 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:59,140 it was last night. It was amazing speech in Las Vegas, 167 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:04,860 29,000 And people that arena. We set the arena record. That was a 168 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:09,720 big deal. Arena too. We set the record, but it was an amazing 169 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,120 crowd. The first time I ever said, I said it, I don't know, 170 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,320 just came out like a garbage can for the rest of the world. Trump 171 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,680 also appeared on the popular podcast the Joe Rogan 172 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:23,000 experience. He then left for a rally in Traverse City, 173 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Michigan. The former president will be in New York City on 174 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Sunday for a rally at Madison Square Garden. 175 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,500 Adam Curry: I see Kyle. He's going to Madison Square Garden 176 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:33,140 tonight. And of course, they showed a picture of Joe, like, 177 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,020 you know, one of those, his eyes all popping out. Oh, that's, 178 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,580 let's get the worst photo of 179 00:10:37,580 --> 00:10:39,320 John C Dvorak: Joe. Pop that's what you do, 180 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,620 Adam Curry: in a way, though, in an in an interesting way, it was 181 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,380 kind of revealing for YouTube, because I think Joe texts me 182 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:54,700 like, 10 o'clock Friday night, and I'm like, is it up already? 183 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:59,860 So now it's been up for an hour, and so then I look at it and has 184 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:03,780 a million views. It's a three hour show. How can it have a 185 00:11:03,780 --> 00:11:05,760 million views in one hour? 186 00:11:06,420 --> 00:11:08,880 John C Dvorak: 06, okay, it can't. It can't. So, 187 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,580 Adam Curry: you know, obviously, all right, so how, how many 188 00:11:11,580 --> 00:11:14,940 seconds are you counting YouTube? Anyway, I think it's up 189 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:19,800 to 30 million now, and that's just YouTube. The the, oh, we 190 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,900 were combating people pirating this feed on the index. We had 191 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:27,920 to last night, like, ah, there's another person who's tried to 192 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:34,340 get it in there and was trying to steal Joe's juice. So it's 193 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:36,500 quite the that's what you do. Yes, what? Just quite the 194 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:39,560 podcast. Quite the podcast. All right, so I now I think we 195 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:41,200 should listen to the spook. Well, 196 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:44,440 John C Dvorak: there was some other comment I wanted to make 197 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,780 about what you were going on about the going on about, yeah, 198 00:11:49,780 --> 00:11:53,020 what's your name showing up and then not doing any performance. 199 00:11:53,020 --> 00:11:56,440 Oh, yeah. Willie Nelson ended up being the performer. Did you 200 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,300 know that by I left that out of most 201 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:01,260 Adam Curry: reports? No. I mean, I saw spring scene from the 202 00:12:01,260 --> 00:12:05,340 night before. And I don't know, I, I wanted to clip it like, 203 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:09,480 this has to be, this has to be doctored. It was so bad. He did 204 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Dancing in the Dark acoustic, and it sounded so off and awful. 205 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:16,080 John C Dvorak: I believe it. 206 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:18,840 Adam Curry: I don't know. I mean, it's like, is that really, 207 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,620 Bruce? I didn't want to clip it for fear of you 208 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:24,020 John C Dvorak: know, yeah, looking like a suckered Yeah, 209 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,420 Adam Curry: but it didn't sound good. Well, 210 00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:28,820 John C Dvorak: Willie Nelson was the guy who ended up performing 211 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:33,440 instead of Beyonce, and they showed picture. He's 91 go, 212 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,700 Willie. He looks like hell, of course. But then again, he's 213 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:41,620 always looked like hell, so there's no big deal, yeah, and 214 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:44,800 yeah, he was the head. It was the head. Can you imagine, you 215 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,260 want to see Beyonce and you end up watching, having to watch 216 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:47,920 Willie Nelson. 217 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,860 Adam Curry: Nothing, nothing derogatory about Willie Nelson. 218 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:54,220 But yeah, that that's like different audience to me, even 219 00:12:54,220 --> 00:12:58,060 Bruce Springsteen, these kids don't want, I mean, it's just 220 00:12:58,060 --> 00:13:03,900 no, no, I don't know. This is probably Laureen Powell Jobs 221 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:07,200 like, yeah, I can make a call to Bruce, I can make a call to 222 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,500 Willie. Can't make a call to Queen B, though can't make her 223 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:12,900 perform. She's not crazy, 224 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:16,140 John C Dvorak: no, and she's not going to do a cappella or 225 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:17,460 anything. Yeah, went 226 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:20,100 Adam Curry: for B, stayed for Willie. No, left, probably left 227 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,700 at Willie. Anyway, all right, so 228 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:25,040 John C Dvorak: Amaryllis comes on, Tucker now. 229 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:30,080 Adam Curry: Now we've played clips of her talking about her 230 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,120 spook, spook career at the CIA. I can't quite remember, but 231 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,380 there was something like the old guard was She's the new guard 232 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:43,840 and and the old guard was kind of chiding her. Do you remember 233 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,900 any of this? Not, not really, okay, all right, 234 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,660 John C Dvorak: but I'll say a couple of things about her. She 235 00:13:49,660 --> 00:13:53,200 looks like a spook. She's got that girl look, you know, the 236 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,980 one that goes into the field. She was a fake art collect our 237 00:13:56,980 --> 00:13:58,240 dealer, and she was 238 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:01,120 Adam Curry: good. That was her kind of 239 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,820 John C Dvorak: No. Uncover. It's called an uncovered spy, I 240 00:14:05,820 --> 00:14:09,600 think, where she wasn't working for the, you know, she wasn't in 241 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,700 as a diplomat or anything at 242 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,640 Adam Curry: the right so it's not registered, is what we say. 243 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:15,780 She's not registered. You're 244 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:18,180 John C Dvorak: just a real free you're a real out there, real 245 00:14:18,180 --> 00:14:23,420 spook, yes, real spook. And she was, you know, mostly in Europe, 246 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:25,940 I think in Asia and but she never went to South America. She 247 00:14:25,940 --> 00:14:29,360 does talk about it, though. Now, the clips I have are very 248 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,620 specific ones about certain things. One is the first two 249 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:37,160 clips. And unfortunately, the first clip is a setup for the 250 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,400 second clip. And these are long clips, all of them, because 251 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,720 again, and I cut out all the pregnant pauses I could Good, 252 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:52,300 good work. It's still too long. She's still, you just hear her 253 00:14:52,420 --> 00:14:56,980 grinding the gears about, can I say this? Can I say this? Can I 254 00:14:56,980 --> 00:15:01,200 say this? She's got her spook filters up the. Way up. Yeah. 255 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:04,380 And Tucker is good at trying to get her to talk as much she can. 256 00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:07,860 And she does bring out. And there's really these three clips 257 00:15:07,860 --> 00:15:11,280 which amount to about six minutes of material. Really 258 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,180 bring out two. Two very, I thought, two very interesting 259 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:15,720 points. Hold 260 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Adam Curry: on one sec. I only see two. You have three. 261 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:22,160 John C Dvorak: It should be Amaryllis on classification. And 262 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,320 Amaryllis on media corruption? 263 00:15:25,220 --> 00:15:28,100 Adam Curry: No, I do not have that. I don't have her on media 264 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:28,760 corruption. 265 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,720 John C Dvorak: Well, they're all set in the same batch. Well, 266 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,780 Adam Curry: I'll double check the batches while we start, if 267 00:15:35,780 --> 00:15:38,000 we can start with the other ones, you need to start with 268 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,840 media corruption. 269 00:15:39,020 --> 00:15:41,320 John C Dvorak: No, no. Media corruption is last Okay, all 270 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,500 right, I'll check. So she's they're talking about, and I 271 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:47,860 broke into it about halfway through the discussion of over 272 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:50,200 because they're talking about bringing out the Kennedy docs 273 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,860 and some of these other things. And so the discussing the over 274 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:58,660 classification, which is a discussion topic of, I don't 275 00:15:58,660 --> 00:16:01,920 know. I know way before this show ever began, it was always 276 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,260 being discussed. Oh, they're over classifying. They're over 277 00:16:04,260 --> 00:16:09,600 classifying. And she brings out some reasonable an explanation 278 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,660 for some of it, but it's in clip too. But let's listen to her, 279 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:15,300 her setup. And here we go. I don't understand 280 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:17,460 Unknown: the justification for that, and I don't know why 281 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:20,420 nobody demands, like, want to declassify it. Like, why 282 00:16:20,420 --> 00:16:23,120 shouldn't it's our country. All these people died. We should 283 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,540 know, 284 00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:28,820 right? And I agree entirely. And I agree. I mean, the same 285 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:34,640 applies for the 60s. I think ultimately, you know, when most 286 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Americans go to work for a third of their working week, they are 287 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,540 working for the government. They're working they're taking 288 00:16:40,540 --> 00:16:43,480 that money having spent the day away from their family, 289 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,480 sacrificing whatever they would prefer to be doing, and they 290 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,760 don't get to keep any of it. They turn it all over to the 291 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,560 government. The government works for the people directly. I mean, 292 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,400 they are directly paid by the people. And if your boss asks 293 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,900 what you've been doing and you know, you say, sorry, I can't 294 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:06,120 tell you. It's classified. It doesn't cut it, you know. And 295 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,440 you know, are there? Are there moments where you know the 296 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,800 actual identity of a source who's, you know, preventing 297 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,820 nuclear war with the Russians is at stake, sure, but they're 298 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:21,740 actually quite few and far between. And, you know, I think 299 00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:26,720 there is a bureaucratic inertia here. Some of it is, some of it 300 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,800 is CYA, and some of it is, you know, probably more nefarious 301 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,100 than that, but there is also a lot of bureaucratic inertia, and 302 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:36,560 it's one of the reasons I'm excited about the prospect of 303 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,100 Elon getting in there, but to do some surgery on on some of that 304 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:44,020 bureaucracy. But, you know, CIA 101, when you start that you 305 00:17:44,020 --> 00:17:50,560 have this one week, you know, fill out your tax forms, get the 306 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,280 same as you would with any other job. Like, nothing sexy about it 307 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,920 at all. There's just, here's the insurance program, and the 308 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,240 person who's going to work in, you know, the coffee shop is 309 00:18:00,780 --> 00:18:03,180 sitting next to someone who's about to go down to the farm. 310 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:08,160 It's just everybody goes through it. And the email client that 311 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,560 you use there looks a lot like Gmail. I mean, it's provided by 312 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Google, and it has all the normal fields and then an 313 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,840 additional field that's for, um, for classification. 314 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:24,140 Adam Curry: Wow. Okay, couple things. One, she's borderline 315 00:18:24,140 --> 00:18:28,520 frying in the vocals, which is a little irksome. Two, and 316 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,060 totally. Two, Tucker needs some help. He's got a hum going on 317 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:37,100 there in the background that is crazy if you hear that room. And 318 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:42,640 three, what Gmail. They're using a Google product at the CIA. 319 00:18:46,060 --> 00:18:48,280 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, here we go with the real kicker, 320 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,640 though, and this is and everything she's about to tell 321 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,180 you, having worked in an administrative state myself, I 322 00:18:55,180 --> 00:18:58,900 believe this all to be true, and it's a it's a disaster. And here 323 00:18:58,900 --> 00:18:59,980 we go, additional 324 00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:06,180 Unknown: field that's for for classification. And it's a drop 325 00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:10,800 down menu, and it, when it first drops down, it's all check boxes 326 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,460 with their own, you know, sub subsets. And it's hundreds of 327 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:18,300 different classifications, all different numbers and codes. And 328 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:23,720 you can hover over them, and they say when to use them, but, 329 00:19:23,780 --> 00:19:28,520 but there are a lot. And we were told, in that first day, you 330 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,200 know, in that first course, you know, just to make it easy on 331 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,140 yourself, pick HCS 404, check box. It hit Save as favorites. 332 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:41,560 It'll come up every time, and then you don't have to worry 333 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,860 about it. Well, that's, you know, human compartment and 334 00:19:44,860 --> 00:19:48,340 sensitive information. It's usually reserved for, you know, 335 00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:52,420 the actual identity or address or identifying details of a 336 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:55,960 source that whose life could be in danger for what they're 337 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:00,360 doing. And yet, here it's being used for, you know. Know, I'll 338 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:07,020 meet you at 430 at Dunkin Donuts and everything in between good 339 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:10,680 and bad, nefarious and not. And the problem with that is that it 340 00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:15,240 is completely exempt from any declassification threshold ever. 341 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:20,120 And as a result of this kind of administrative tweak, which is 342 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:25,760 either just to save people time, or maybe to, you know, reduce 343 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,340 the number of things that will ever eventually be published. 344 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Now you have class after class after class of CIA officers 345 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,800 that, you know, just chronically make sure that every single 346 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,620 email they ever write will never see the light of day. And I 347 00:20:39,620 --> 00:20:43,480 think that is being done across government. 348 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:48,280 So literally, the default is secrecy from the public. Yeah, 349 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:53,620 the default is you will never know. You never know how much 350 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:57,160 money was spent, what it was spent on, whether it was legal. 351 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:01,860 You know whether you spent that Tuesday away from your family, 352 00:21:01,860 --> 00:21:05,940 working to pay taxes, and those taxes went to kill someone or 353 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:09,660 went to save someone's life. There's no no accountability, 354 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:11,880 and there's no way to know, and there's no way to know. 355 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:15,120 Adam Curry: Surprise, surprise. So 356 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,180 John C Dvorak: the default is set up right at the get go from 357 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:24,200 day one as a maximum and impenetrable classification that 358 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:27,920 never can be released ever by nature, by the nature of the 359 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,000 process, just like the let's just declassify all this crap. 360 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,060 You can't do it with that classification. And that's that, 361 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:38,540 including the meetup at the Dunkin Donuts, is now super 362 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:43,540 classified and to never do to see the light of day. Okay? 363 00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:45,160 First is ridiculous. First of 364 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,900 Unknown: all, gambling. 365 00:21:49,180 --> 00:21:53,080 Adam Curry: CIA. The CIA is doing this. Not surprised 366 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,360 John C Dvorak: at all. They're not the only ones. You have to 367 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:59,320 assume they're all doing it, of course, because that's the 368 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,720 easiest way to go 369 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,080 Adam Curry: on Gmail. On Gmail, 370 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:05,100 John C Dvorak: right? You 371 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,460 Adam Curry: gotta wonder, yeah, you gotta wonder if it's 372 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:12,960 encrypted at all or, I mean, the fact that Gmail so you're just 373 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,040 using a browser, okay, that seems really secure. All of that 374 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,480 sounds really secure to me. 375 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:23,300 John C Dvorak: It just sounds like a black Well, we have 376 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:24,200 Keystone con. We 377 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,140 Adam Curry: have a lot of spooks who will weigh in and let us 378 00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:29,300 know about this email product. 379 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:32,840 John C Dvorak: I'm sure they'll probably just confirm what she 380 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,140 says. What's her say? You know, yeah, 381 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Adam Curry: can you bring your own iPhone and use that as long 382 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:46,420 as you use Gmail? Okay? Way to go, guys. All right, I have the 383 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:49,960 clip. I found it. You're right. I found the the last one. Okay, 384 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,660 John C Dvorak: now they're talking of this is another, by 385 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:56,080 the way, that this went a long time this interview, and it was, 386 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,440 I think people should go track it down. And no, it's that good. 387 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,400 Adam Curry: They think. Is that good you recommend is that JCD? 388 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:03,360 I recommend it's 389 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,960 John C Dvorak: it's if you can put up with the vocal fry and 390 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,620 the pregnant pauses, and it's the pacing. Is she 391 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:12,660 Adam Curry: doing that because it's the filters, or because 392 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:14,940 she's interesting? She's 393 00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:19,860 John C Dvorak: not interesting. Okay? Bucha, what she has to say 394 00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:24,620 is interesting, but she doesn't present it in an she's not an 395 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:30,320 interesting person. She's just a kind of, I know how to she's not 396 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:36,380 uninteresting. She's not like a big dud, but she's just so rich. 397 00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:40,240 She's there's a redistancy. She's like those halt it's a 398 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,960 halting style that, can I say this? Can I say that you can 399 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,600 just hear it going on in her head? Can I say this like it's 400 00:23:46,660 --> 00:23:49,660 Adam Curry: a little affected by, uh, by being the campaign 401 00:23:49,660 --> 00:23:53,080 manager for RFK Jr, because he also talks like that, not that 402 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,760 he can help it. Maybe they're just in sync with each other. 403 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,740 John C Dvorak: That's an interesting idea, because that's 404 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:06,780 a pot that's actually a possibility. So here now they're 405 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:09,720 talking about, we've talked about this on the show. She just 406 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000 confirmed something. She does bring in a new point that I 407 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,960 never knew about, and I think it's kind of funny, and it's the 408 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,780 end. But they're talking about media corruption in the spooks 409 00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:23,240 that are in the media, that are that are either helping the the 410 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,200 CIA, 411 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,100 Adam Curry: wait a minute, there's spooks in the media. I 412 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,840 thought the church commission got rid 413 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,420 John C Dvorak: of there is a piece of information that comes 414 00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:34,160 that, you know, is not gambling, 415 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:35,660 Unknown: okay, which is the oldest, I'm 416 00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:36,500 Adam Curry: sorry, can we play? 417 00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:40,060 John C Dvorak: No wait, let me finish the setup. And so I 418 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:42,940 because, I because it just in law. I'm trying to, this is 419 00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:45,880 already two minutes, and it's like a couple minutes before it, 420 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,920 you know, it could have been used, but I didn't want to do 421 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,100 it, so I wouldn't explain it. So there, you know, of course, 422 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,500 Tucker's like a gas at all this stuff, even though he's always 423 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:57,160 wanted to be a spook. Says so in his bio. So he's like, you know, 424 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,300 listening, see, how come I couldn't have done this. Job 425 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:05,160 kind of thing. And she's talking about the people that got, you 426 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,400 know, recruited, and then do the bidding of the agency, and then 427 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,640 the people that are obviously working for them now. And then 428 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760 she brings in some stuff that I didn't know, 429 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,640 Unknown: which is the oldest exchange in the world, maybe the 430 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:24,380 second oldest, and seen it, and it goes on, you know, every day, 431 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,720 there's no doubt that there are also actual, formal sources 432 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,060 throughout the media. And always have been, you 433 00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:34,220 know, what does that mean? A formal source in the media? 434 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:40,100 I mean, you know, an asset, somebody that would be paid by 435 00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:44,860 intelligence organizations to to work on their behalf, play 436 00:25:44,860 --> 00:25:46,780 stories on their behalf, and they 437 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:50,440 Adam Curry: literally come on CNN, and that says CIA agents. I 438 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,300 mean, how surprising is this 439 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,900 John C Dvorak: paid by intelligence? What she's saying? 440 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:59,380 No that this, I think that's different than a guy who's a 441 00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:04,200 reporter for the New York Times, or a correspondent for NBC News 442 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,620 who's not doesn't say c i h under it. Okay, so like Jake 443 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:10,560 Tapper who just say something like Richard Engel, it'll say 444 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,180 something like that. Or Jake Tapper 445 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:14,940 Adam Curry: who just happens to be at the birthday party of the 446 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,220 the CIA director, just coincidental, 447 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,500 John C Dvorak: yeah, it'd be something like that. Brand fair 448 00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:25,700 Unknown: organizations to to work on their behalf, play 449 00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:29,060 stories on their behalf. And of course, that happens, you know, 450 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,180 all across the world, but when it 451 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,400 Adam Curry: happens in the United States and it's the end 452 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,780 of democracy, of course, 453 00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:41,680 Unknown: well look, I mean, we have CISA operating, basically a 454 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,000 JIRA ticketing system for any tweet that the White House 455 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,840 chooses to that they would like to see deleted, even if it's, 456 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:50,140 wait a 457 00:26:50,140 --> 00:26:54,400 Adam Curry: minute, JIRA, they're using JIRA. CISA. CISA 458 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,620 is using JIRA. Is what she just said. 459 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,100 John C Dvorak: Oh no. She Yeah, she says, and I'm not sure what 460 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,140 she's referring to. Yes, 461 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:05,640 Adam Curry: I am JIRA is an is a ticketing system, an open source 462 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:11,040 ticketing system that I believe was compromised in the solar 463 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,940 winds hack. 464 00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:16,980 John C Dvorak: I'm glad you have that information at the White 465 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:18,720 House, but that's what they're using. Okay, 466 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,100 Adam Curry: well, sure that and Gmail that the 467 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,160 Unknown: White House chooses that they would like to see 468 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,300 deleted, even if it's in jest, even if it's satire, they just 469 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:33,920 put it in the ticketing is, yeah, well, what's interesting 470 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,600 about CIS is that it, you know, it's a part of the Department of 471 00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:43,660 Homeland Security, but it's supposed to protect our, our 472 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,820 nation's infrastructure from terror attacks. And at the 473 00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:51,460 beginning of the Biden administration, a decision was 474 00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:54,100 made that information is infrastructure. 475 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,760 Oh, it is now. Is it just, you 476 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,780 know, an Orwellian thing to it? And as a result, in order to 477 00:28:03,780 --> 00:28:10,200 secure it, you know, CISO was quietly empowered with the 478 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,240 ability, sometimes directly and sometimes through NGO cutouts, 479 00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:22,340 to present to all the social media companies and Wikipedia 480 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:28,100 and Amazon, any content that was flagged as concerning, and they, 481 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,500 you know, bolo alerts went up beyond the lookout bolo, and 482 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,500 they held weekly meetings and said, you know, here, here Put, 483 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,940 put an enormous amount of financial pressure on these 484 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:47,200 companies saying, you know, that their legal protections from 485 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440 liability would be withdrawn if they didn't cooperate. 486 00:28:50,740 --> 00:28:53,800 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, I totally believe that, yeah, 487 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,300 yeah, completely, but 488 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:59,860 John C Dvorak: I never knew about the information is 489 00:28:59,860 --> 00:29:04,440 infrastructure. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. 490 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,080 And then I was looking at the cybersecurity, infrastructure 491 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,140 security agency, which was only founded in 2018 Yeah. 492 00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:12,780 Adam Curry: They're supposed to rig the elections. I mean, 493 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:14,040 protect the elections. 494 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,840 John C Dvorak: So the idea that I was thinking about, can you 495 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,360 make the argument? And I can see making it that information is 496 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:29,960 infrastructure. I mean, it's a stretch. It's a big stretch, but 497 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,500 could be I can I under you can see these bureaucrats. It's like 498 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:36,260 that, that character that was out of the University of 499 00:29:36,260 --> 00:29:38,660 California, that law professor, I think, is Wong or Lee, or 500 00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:43,840 Wang, or whatever his name is, judge who wrote the he wrote the 501 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,260 MA about torture. He wrote the torture. 502 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,080 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about during when 503 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,560 he's in the hospital and they made him sign off on something. 504 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,940 That guy. No, 505 00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:57,160 John C Dvorak: no. This guy's still around now. He's not 506 00:29:57,340 --> 00:30:01,320 somebody different. Well, it's. There's a lot of that that goes 507 00:30:01,380 --> 00:30:05,400 on, but, yeah, this guy, this is a legitimate legal document that 508 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:12,360 was used as a rationale for torture, and very famous during 509 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:18,000 the Bush administration and that kind of thing. You can kind of, 510 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,160 you know, if you're smart enough, you can make 511 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,900 information. You can convince yourself that information is 512 00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:27,560 infrastructure and then then use it as leverage Well, I 513 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,960 Adam Curry: would say information, in general, in the 514 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,400 legal sense that creates a legal framework, is infrastructure, 515 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,900 and that's just information along the same lines. No, 516 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,700 John C Dvorak: it could be an argument. I could see it, by 517 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,860 Adam Curry: the way. It wasn't JIRA. It was Confluence. I 518 00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:48,160 apologize, but JIRA is just it's a ticketing system. We had that 519 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,700 Emilio we used, hey, put it in the JIRA. Hey, man, this thing's 520 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:55,840 broken. Put it in JIRA. It's just a ticketing system that was 521 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:02,100 interesting. Well, along these lines, last night, rob the 522 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,600 constitutional lawyer and his lovely wife, Maggie, invited a 523 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,140 couple of people to go out to dinner. It was, I would say, was 524 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:14,040 to celebrate, no agenda, 17th anniversary. He picked up the 525 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,700 picked up the Tet No, no. There was a celebratory toast 526 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:22,400 specifically for our 17th anniversary. And invited the ER 527 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,300 doctor and his wife, Tina, and myself and two friends. And I 528 00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:31,160 didn't know these two friends, and he had just hit them in the 529 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,580 mouth, but it was in kind of an odd way, where he was trying to 530 00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:38,900 play our last episode on the Bluetooth in his car, and it 531 00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:43,180 kept getting stuck on sex event. So they don't really know about 532 00:31:43,180 --> 00:31:46,000 our show much, because it just we were talking about sex 533 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,820 events, and then so they said, Well, this is an interesting 534 00:31:48,820 --> 00:31:50,140 podcast. You're trying 535 00:31:50,260 --> 00:31:53,620 John C Dvorak: to play like the only time we've ever done that. 536 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,400 So 537 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,320 Adam Curry: they're my age, and he is. He's a corporate lawyer 538 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,600 now, and she is a middle school teacher. I'm not going to use 539 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,960 their names, because we didn't just didn't discuss that. I was 540 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120 going to talk about them. But hey, don't have dinner with me. 541 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:10,200 And pretty quickly, pretty quickly, Rob says, Oh no, you'll 542 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,500 love these guys. And then just, you know, just to live up and 543 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:17,700 live up in the Plano, whatever. Well, in the mid 80s, where'd 544 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,200 you guys meet in the mid 80s? We met in Germany. Oh yeah, we were 545 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,780 both in the Air Force. Oh, so it turns out they were both NSA 546 00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:33,080 agents at the Russia desk, Russia division in Germany. So 547 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,680 we had some things to talk about, and they were they didn't 548 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,780 tell me about any of their ops, but they did have some 549 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:44,200 interesting observations, and one that kind of relates to this 550 00:32:44,620 --> 00:32:51,580 is that there's kind of a joke around the intel community that 551 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,920 25% of the intelligence community is walking and they're 552 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,380 either walking in the Pentagon, or they're walking in the 553 00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:02,160 hallways, or they're getting from one place to the other. 554 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:07,320 Literally, 25% at all times, is just walking around. And you 555 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,060 could cut so much waste by just having people sit at their 556 00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:16,440 desks. And so as I'm talking to them, 25% 557 00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:19,980 John C Dvorak: of the entire intelligence community is 558 00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:23,900 walking wondering would be a probably wondering, 559 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,340 Adam Curry: wandering, wandering is better? Yes, wandering. And 560 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:30,440 so, you know, I'm just talking a little bit because, you know, 561 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,400 NSA, yeah, they do spying, but there's also some level of 562 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,540 psychological operation. And so we get into some stuff. Because 563 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,980 what I'm hearing around here from a lot, and we've discussed 564 00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:48,220 this on the last show, is the grid's gonna go down. There will 565 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:52,060 be no election. There are already gangs inside the 566 00:33:52,060 --> 00:33:56,620 country, and they have kill orders for Border Patrol. Oh, 567 00:33:56,620 --> 00:34:00,480 I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. A lot of fear mongering 568 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,580 about China that Xi specifically wants to disrupt our elections. 569 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:09,360 And, you know, and so as I'm kind of thinking through that, 570 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,520 didn't discuss all of this with them, but as I'm thinking 571 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,860 through this, there's a lot of China that is in all of these 572 00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:20,660 stories. And let's just follow the money for a second. Remember 573 00:34:20,660 --> 00:34:24,020 the Smith Mundt Act, which specifically disallowed 574 00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:30,680 propaganda on the American citizens, was reformed during 575 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,180 Obama and where was it reformed in the NDAA, the National 576 00:34:35,180 --> 00:34:39,380 Defense Authorization Act. So it was a military move to get that 577 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,460 taken out, and this is all, you know, NSA is also a part of Dia 578 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:47,800 it's not the CIA. It's, you know, it's the military guys. 579 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,360 It's the they're part of, are they part of naval I think, 580 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640 yeah, because Admiral runs it right. So they're part of the 581 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,900 naval operation. That's 582 00:34:55,899 --> 00:34:58,299 John C Dvorak: not, I don't they're totally independent. 583 00:34:59,079 --> 00:34:59,859 This is, 584 00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:01,800 Adam Curry: I. Telling you, from what I heard last night, they 585 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,800 are not independent. They are more related to the military 586 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,940 than anything else. 587 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:09,480 John C Dvorak: Okay, they're supposed to be independent. Oh, 588 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,380 okay, and 589 00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:13,560 Adam Curry: the CIA shouldn't use Gmail. I mean, 590 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,580 John C Dvorak: there's no rule about that. No, CIA is 591 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,840 independent too, but 592 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,480 Adam Curry: the but those guys were very irked when the FBI was 593 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,600 using their systems just gather information. So 594 00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:28,640 John C Dvorak: yeah, they were still, yeah, they got the 595 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,400 password so they could use their crazy again. We talked about 596 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,240 this years ago. 597 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,880 Adam Curry: They're all against the CIA and the FBI they had. 598 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,900 They're in a very different camp. So let's just review for a 599 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,120 moment what we have going on the new psychological operations, 600 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,200 which I believe is being passed down through ranks, through much 601 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,880 lower level guys, has some waldens. There's another there's 602 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,820 a whole bunch of guys running around, who are, you know, 603 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,860 psyching out people like Laura and and Nomi Wolf and all these 604 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:03,540 other people and and it's somebody's doing it. Well, 605 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:09,900 listen, it's like China. We have da this middle aged military, 606 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:13,200 military age Chinese men here, they're gonna attack us from 607 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,640 win. Chinese are buying land next to bases. Chinese drones 608 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:24,380 are flying over bases. And now you think about Trump. Trump has 609 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:29,000 already said that, first of all, China, they need us as much as 610 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,820 we need them. We're their customers. Let's just be honest 611 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:36,620 about it. We may not need all of their manufacturing, but Trump 612 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:39,980 will take their need most of it, but Trump will take the you 613 00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:44,740 know, tariffs. Trump with the China virus, Trump has a hard on 614 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,340 about China, so he's kind of perfect to be the next 615 00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:53,200 president, if you take into account that China the pivot to 616 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,480 China. You know what? He's already said, we're going to 617 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,020 build big, beautiful ships. All of this stuff is happening. 618 00:36:59,140 --> 00:37:03,300 China. China. Remember, Newland was kicked out of state. She 619 00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:07,140 didn't get the job she wanted. Replaced by a China guy, Kurt 620 00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:10,260 Campbell, who played a whole bunch of clips. And now we have 621 00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:15,300 the perfect setup with the new Ukraine, which is Taiwan. It 622 00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:19,860 makes so much sense. Russia has old news. We're going to wrap 623 00:37:19,860 --> 00:37:22,520 that up. You know, whatever it can go on for a good time, but 624 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,420 there's no new no new money. We need new money. We need to build 625 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:29,720 stuff. And then, coincidentally, this happens. Sources 626 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,260 Unknown: in the US say suspected Chinese hackers have targeted 627 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,160 Donald Trump and his running mate for the White House JD 628 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,440 Vance phones associated with the campaign of Democratic nominee 629 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:46,240 Kamala Harris may also have been targeted. An FBI statement 630 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,600 didn't give any names, but said it was investigating what it 631 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,520 called unauthorized access to commercial telecommunications 632 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,900 infrastructure by people associated with China. Was not 633 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:03,060 clear. It was not immediately clear what data, if any, had 634 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:04,140 been accessed, 635 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,240 if any, of course, 636 00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,900 Adam Curry: it's like it's a total non story. But let's not 637 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,120 forget, we've got Taiwan in the mix, paying 638 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,580 Unknown: his respects to soldiers who lost their lives. 639 00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:17,880 Taiwan's President reaffirmed his country's sovereignty. 640 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,240 Today, gunning to is more than just a symbol of military 641 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,840 victory, it also represents our determination to protect our 642 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,320 country. We will not yield an inch of ground in Taiwan. 643 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:39,080 While Lai did not mention China explicitly, he was referring to 644 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,240 the 1949 battle of gunning to against Beijing's People's 645 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:48,460 Liberation Army. China claims it as its own territory. There has 646 00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:51,520 been a fortnight of intense military activity in the Taiwan 647 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,480 Strait which separates the two. This includes live fire drills 648 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,300 near the island and the Transiting of a Chinese aircraft 649 00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:02,580 carrier group through the Strait on Wednesday, China's foreign 650 00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:05,040 ministry has said there's nothing wrong with conducting 651 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,840 military activity in the area 652 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,900 Taiwan. Taiwan 653 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,980 is Chinese territory. It's perfectly normal for Chinese 654 00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:18,540 aircraft carriers to sail in its own territory. And territorial 655 00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:23,600 waters both sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one China 656 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:24,800 Beijing 657 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,380 severed high level communications with Taipei in 658 00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:31,640 2016 and has since ramped up military and political pressure 659 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:33,200 on the self ruled Ireland. 660 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,220 Adam Curry: So even though the military could completely run 661 00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:43,060 this with the Kamala Harris walls presidency, it's much 662 00:39:43,060 --> 00:39:46,780 easier to go with the guy who already has a hard on for him, 663 00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:52,060 like Trump has to be the guy. It makes no sense otherwise, 664 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,900 because they're psyching out everybody, particularly 665 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:59,920 conservatives, Republicans. Yes. 666 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,020 John C Dvorak: Yes, yes, the Harris walls could do it, but 667 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:06,900 except if you're gonna, if you're gonna go with your thesis 668 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,780 that this whole thing is set up for Trump, because it makes more 669 00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:13,200 sense. It also makes more sense that it would go for Trump, 670 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,520 because walls is a China file. Yeah, he's no good. Been there a 671 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,960 million times. Yeah, married there. He loves the place. He 672 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,120 wanted to sell off, and he's goes, he's there, 673 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,940 Adam Curry: excellent point. He's the wrong guy. He's the 674 00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:28,220 absolute wrong guy for the job. Yeah, 675 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:30,740 John C Dvorak: he's pro China. He would, he would turn the 676 00:40:30,740 --> 00:40:33,440 country, he would turn the US over to China if he had a 677 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,220 chance. So 678 00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:36,080 Adam Curry: what we need is, when you get everybody all 679 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,620 jacked up and make sure that we get everybody out to vote for 680 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,520 Trump, particularly the Christians. Get everybody out 681 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,540 there, everybody, oh, if you're and you're watching online, I 682 00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:52,720 mean, how many podcasts have we not seen in the past year from 683 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:58,240 the culture war economy, who are all talking about China? And 684 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:02,640 it's one out, it's continuous, the drones over the bases. Oh, 685 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,000 they're buying land next to bases. Oh, they've got police 686 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,300 stations in which is true, but, 687 00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:12,060 John C Dvorak: but, and by the way, one of the biggest ones is 688 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:13,860 in Minnesota. There you go. 689 00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:17,340 Adam Curry: There you go. So yeah, 690 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,100 John C Dvorak: Minneapolis has one, so you've done nothing 691 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:21,260 about it, and I, and, 692 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,180 Adam Curry: you know, Trump probably is on to this. He's 693 00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:25,880 like, Oh, this is good, you know, I can get the tariffs in 694 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,400 and we can build. I mean, we still need an economy, by the 695 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,640 way, the 696 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,240 John C Dvorak: police station story is sketchy. I mean, yes, 697 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,640 they're there, and there's one, and there was one in New York. I 698 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,740 think they're rousted it. I think there was one out here 699 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:41,320 too. There's still one in Minnesota. And they, you know, 700 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,840 keep an eye on the on the Nationals, and they're supposed 701 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,360 to be, they threaten people, and then they set up shop in the 702 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,540 universities. Yeah, there's horrible these people. They're 703 00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:53,560 trying to they're, yeah, I can see where you can get all worked 704 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,100 up, yeah. 705 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,460 Adam Curry: And so we need that. We need this groundswell, and we 706 00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:01,680 need Trump, because besides a large amount of money that's 707 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,340 going to be spent on this wonderful Iron Dome over all of 708 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:09,300 America, a missile defense shield. They call it Star Wars. 709 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,380 You know, he'll also get his tariffs and all that stuff will 710 00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:14,640 work out just fine. Well, you 711 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,460 John C Dvorak: have to get, there's an angle on that missile 712 00:42:17,460 --> 00:42:20,540 defense system too. You have to understand. And I think as part 713 00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:23,900 of it, this whole thing, I'm good, I'm gonna just back you 714 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:28,580 up. Oh, nice. And it's like, well, you know, Reagan wanted to 715 00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:32,240 do this, but the technology wasn't the same as it is today. 716 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,420 So today's technology, because, you know, everything's changed 717 00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:41,260 since 1980 today's technology makes it possible, and then we 718 00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:45,820 have and then we have the bull crap. And I have clips on this 719 00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:49,360 to the bull crap that went on between Israel and Iran. We'll 720 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,820 get to that in a moment. Yeah, we'll get to that. But, but 721 00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:55,180 that, wait a minute, that that incorporates the this new 722 00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:58,540 technology, because the 180 missiles that were sent over 723 00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:02,940 from Iran didn't that, oh yeah, that hit nothing, except some 724 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,880 poor Palestinian who, I think, got hit by some debris. 725 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,720 Adam Curry: We know, we don't think rocket. We saw the shell 726 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,740 John C Dvorak: fall on these terrible video very and so they 727 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:19,020 the 180 missiles couldn't do any damage because of this new 728 00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:23,120 technology, which is what we're going to employ to keep and do 729 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,540 this. So we have to worry about anything. I mean, this is, like, 730 00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:28,940 the whole thing is beautifully structured. 731 00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:31,580 Adam Curry: Here's only one thing that there's just, it's a 732 00:43:31,580 --> 00:43:35,480 little bit of a side, a side track, but it has to do with 733 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,040 spooks. You know, one of my big eye openers before we even 734 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,320 started the show was the book legacy of ashes. And if you 735 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,680 recall this, so legacy of ashes a story about the CIA written by 736 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,580 Tim Weiner, or Weiner from former New York Times. He went 737 00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:55,420 on to write an FBI book, which sucked, but the CIA book, I 738 00:43:55,420 --> 00:43:59,980 remember calling uncle Don and saying, is this true? And he 739 00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:03,780 said, Yeah, that's pretty much how I remember it. So what I 740 00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:07,980 don't understand is Mike Benz, who I think we both appreciate 741 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:12,780 for what he does. He goes on a 15 minute rant slamming this 742 00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:15,720 book. Listen, I clipped a little bit of it. 743 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,180 John C Dvorak: Tis legacy of ashes. This book is terrible. 744 00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:20,540 This is the book you're supposed to read that you're told to 745 00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:26,000 read, to know what the CIA does garbage. And everyone talks 746 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,260 about it like, it's this big Bible of CIA. It's dog water. 747 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,800 It's awful, like, the whole point of legacy of ashes. Like, 748 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,040 yeah, the CIA does all this terrible stuff. 749 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,780 Unknown: It's morally dubious. It causes all this blowback in 750 00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:45,760 disaster and human rights disasters, 751 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,840 but they're bumbling, stumbling fools. You don't need to worry 752 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,680 about them. 753 00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:56,140 They don't do anything right? 754 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920 They're so silly. They're such silly juices. I. 755 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,720 John C Dvorak: Would it be nice if the CI just stopped being 756 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,160 such silly goose as he 757 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,560 Adam Curry: goes on and on and on about this. I don't 758 00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:10,080 John C Dvorak: understand. Don't you think that this is to draw 759 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,420 attention to the book, to get it back in play? 760 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,800 Adam Curry: Didn't, didn't seem like it to me. Well, I've 761 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,660 listened well that now you, you've opened my mind up to 762 00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:25,040 possibilities here that's, yeah, okay, because I haven't heard 763 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,460 anybody say, Oh, you have to read legacy of ashes. Except us. 764 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,500 I've how many times has someone mentioned this book to you in 765 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:35,540 the past 17 years? None, 766 00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:40,120 John C Dvorak: exactly. But this will get your attention. Yeah. 767 00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:43,360 Adam Curry: Okay, good point. Good point. 768 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,320 John C Dvorak: So it's time to reread the book. 769 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,180 Adam Curry: Uncle Don is Adam. I'm not gonna 770 00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:52,900 John C Dvorak: read that book. I 771 00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:55,120 Adam Curry: don't think I can have the same conversation with 772 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,840 him anymore before we go to anything else. Let's 773 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,500 John C Dvorak: just stick with no, he's still but heard about 774 00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:02,940 Hillary losing, isn't he? 775 00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:09,720 Adam Curry: He does not like Trump. He's like Trump is no 776 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,320 good. He thinks Trump is horrible. But he's been out of 777 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,480 the game for quite a long time, and I give him all honor, all 778 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,120 John C Dvorak: his own opinion. Maybe Trump is bad, 779 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,900 Adam Curry: but he was the guy that said to me, yeah, uh, North 780 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,720 Korea, whenever we need to sell some military stuff, we just 781 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:33,560 rattle North Korea around the media. He that was his. He's 782 00:46:33,620 --> 00:46:34,280 almost Trump, 783 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,400 John C Dvorak: who's did a good job of stopping that, yeah, 784 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,900 maybe that's the reason he doesn't like Trump, following up 785 00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:41,560 these great. This 786 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,080 Adam Curry: is no good curry. What did you? Did you? Did you 787 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,360 leak this information? Okay, so let's just stick with the with 788 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600 the election for a little bit. First of all, we have to 789 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,960 understand, no matter what we say, no matter how we look at 790 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,740 it, this race is tight, John, it's tight. I mean neck and 791 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:01,020 John C Dvorak: neck and neck and neck, 792 00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:03,840 Unknown: vice president and former president bashing each 793 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,840 other while rallying their supporters as both sides count 794 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,980 down to November 5. 795 00:47:08,220 --> 00:47:12,960 We've got just 10 days left in one of the most consequential 796 00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:15,780 elections of our lifetime. Kamala 797 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:18,480 Harris and Donald Trump crisscrossing the swing states. 798 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,680 HARRIS in Kalamazoo, Michigan this afternoon, pushing what she 799 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,440 calls a fresh start in her economic plan to help middle 800 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,560 America. Trump also in Michigan, and then at State College of 801 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,740 Pennsylvania, vowing to close the border and bring down the 802 00:47:30,740 --> 00:47:32,300 cost of living. We have nine 803 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,760 days to go to total victory, and then we're going to have a 804 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,160 different kind of a victory. We're going to turn our nation 805 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:37,520 around. 806 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,360 Harris, introduced by former First Lady Michelle Obama, the 807 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,880 campaign focusing on reproductive rights, she 808 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,240 will fight to restore our reproductive freedoms and 809 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,540 defend our health. Michigan Senate candidate Mike Rogers had 810 00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:58,300 a strength for Trump and the economy we lost 811 00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:03,540 in the last four years, 20,000 manufacturing jobs under 812 00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:06,300 Democrat policies coming out of Washington, DC, 813 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:10,140 both candidates trying to appeal to the undecided electorate 814 00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:13,320 votes that could push them over the finish line to win. This is 815 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:13,560 going 816 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,320 to be the greatest victory in the history of our country. It's 817 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,660 going to be an exciting it's going to be an exciting night on 818 00:48:20,660 --> 00:48:21,440 November 1, 819 00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:25,460 and make no mistake, we will win 820 00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:30,200 both feeling very confident for Harris and Trump. The 821 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,560 Presidential election all comes down to the seven battleground 822 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,640 states, and the most crucial is Pennsylvania, with its 19 823 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,260 electoral votes, 824 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,700 Adam Curry: a clip that I found that we've kind of been looking 825 00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:48,460 for, is the pronunciation of Vice President Harris's first 826 00:48:48,460 --> 00:48:54,700 name, which, if you do it wrong, you're racist. What is now the 827 00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:59,620 official pronunciation? Is it Kamala? No, it's Kamala. Kamala. 828 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,260 And by the way, thank you to all of the Chicanos, which turns 829 00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:06,060 out, is not a slur. Thank you. I 830 00:49:06,060 --> 00:49:07,800 John C Dvorak: never thought it was. I thought you were laughing 831 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,060 at it because it was a dated reference. Well, I didn't know 832 00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:14,760 you were laughing because you thought I was. I said a slur. 833 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,000 Adam Curry: I didn't know either. But a lot of people 834 00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:21,020 email and said, No, no, that's good. And they all said, Hey, 835 00:49:21,140 --> 00:49:26,060 I'm glad you guys finally caught on about the came along, because 836 00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:29,060 I came alive. Yeah, they should have emailed this a long time 837 00:49:29,060 --> 00:49:30,680 ago. We didn't know about this. You had to 838 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,300 John C Dvorak: hear from your gardener, but now that you 839 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,960 mention it, yes, with that, what's up? Our audience is 840 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:36,740 remiss. 841 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,560 Adam Curry: Our producers, producers, you got to get on the 842 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,980 stick. So this is a 45 second super cut of every single 843 00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:52,180 leftist media personality, and I think even a few Democrat 844 00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:55,660 politicians mispronouncing her name, Kamala Harris, 845 00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:58,780 Unknown: Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala 846 00:49:58,780 --> 00:49:59,920 Harris, Kamala Harris. 847 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,820 Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. People 848 00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:06,600 like Kamala Harris, but as Kamala said, Kamala Harris, 849 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,060 Kamala Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, 850 00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:11,880 Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, 851 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,180 Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris. 852 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:15,600 Kamala 853 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,920 Harris is Kamala Kamala 854 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,740 Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala 855 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:23,180 Harris, Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris was a very good 856 00:50:23,180 --> 00:50:26,360 prosecutor. Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, 857 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,160 Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala 858 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,520 Harris. 859 00:50:28,580 --> 00:50:29,360 I know her. 860 00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:33,620 And was first Biden and Kamala Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, 861 00:50:33,620 --> 00:50:34,100 Kamala 862 00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:34,880 Harris, Kamala 863 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,600 Harris, Kamala 864 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,500 Harris, Kamala 865 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:38,240 Harris, Kamala Harris. Into the cat 866 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:39,320 is Kamala point, Kamala 867 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,220 Harris, Kamala 868 00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:40,900 Harris, Kamala 869 00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:41,620 Harris, Kamala 870 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:43,240 Adam Curry: Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala 871 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:43,960 Unknown: Harris, Kamala 872 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,280 Harris. Was talking about this. 873 00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:46,600 Kamala Harris, Kamala 874 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,560 Harris, Kamala 875 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,660 Harris, Kamala Harris. This 876 00:50:49,660 --> 00:50:53,500 will be my favorite at the end, like Kamala Harris. 877 00:50:54,580 --> 00:50:55,960 Adam Curry: So you know, yeah, who 878 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,120 John C Dvorak: are these phony baloneys Kidding? They're 879 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,620 Adam Curry: all phony baloneys. But now, John, we have a new 880 00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:05,820 October surprise. He said, new October surprise right on the 881 00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:06,420 cusp this 882 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:09,360 Unknown: morning, a startling new report, startling 883 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,900 Adam Curry: from the Washington Post. It's startling about 884 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,500 Unknown: one of Donald Trump's most ardent supporters, Elon 885 00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:17,040 Musk, 886 00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:20,160 this is no ordinary election, a regular from 887 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,300 the campaign trail, and according to the Wall Street 888 00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:27,500 Journal, the tech titan in regular contact with Russian 889 00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:33,260 President Vladimir Putin 2022 the discussion said to focus on 890 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,060 personal topics, business and geopolitical tensions at one 891 00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:41,980 point, according to the journal, Putin even asking musk, who says 892 00:51:41,980 --> 00:51:46,360 he holds top secret clearance, to hold off activating one of 893 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,220 his Starlink satellites over Taiwan as a favor to China's 894 00:51:51,220 --> 00:51:56,500 President Xi Jinping. It's not known if Musk oblige the journal 895 00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,920 saying the contacts raised national security concerns, 896 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,260 given the ties between musk, Space X and the US military and 897 00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:07,320 intelligence agencies, but a person aware of the 898 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,160 conversations told the journal, there have been no alerts raised 899 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,600 over possible security breaches. Musk has not responded to the 900 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,300 allegations, but when asked in 2022 if he had spoken to Putin 901 00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:25,100 about Ukraine. He posted, I have spoken to Putin only once, and 902 00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:29,420 that was about 18 months ago. The subject matter was space. 903 00:52:29,540 --> 00:52:33,440 Earlier this year, President Putin himself praised musk in an 904 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,000 interview with Tucker Carlson on Musk's own X platform, calling 905 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,000 him unstoppable, and Russia this morning, strongly denying the 906 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,840 Wall Street Journal report saying it did not happen. All of 907 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,560 this comes, of course, as Donald Trump swirls in controversy over 908 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,880 his praise of Vladimir Putin and denials that he has been in 909 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,420 regular contact with the Russian leader since leaving office. 910 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,160 John C Dvorak: Okay, first of all, that's Martha radnitz, yes, 911 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,640 rad. It's 912 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,020 Adam Curry: rad, it's rad, it's 913 00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:06,660 John C Dvorak: and she's no good. She's the one. 914 00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:09,480 Adam Curry: It was a whoop, but it's a WaPo report, who are, of 915 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,180 course, also no good. This 916 00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:17,340 John C Dvorak: is all no good. But they're mentioning the WaPo 917 00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:20,160 though I thought was the Wall Street Journal there, but it was 918 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,920 walk. Oh, I there was a now there's a ball. Tells broken 919 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,380 loose at the WaPo. Because, oh, you 920 00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:28,280 Adam Curry: have the clip. I have 921 00:53:29,060 --> 00:53:30,980 John C Dvorak: the two clips. Okay, good, good, good. 922 00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:32,600 Adam Curry: WaPo. One, 923 00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:35,480 Unknown: the motto of the Washington Post is democracy 924 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,920 dies in darkness. I like the marbles in this guy's mouth. Yet 925 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,660 in these closing days of a presidential campaign that polls 926 00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:47,080 say is close, the post has announced it would not endorse 927 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,900 any candidate in the rest of the White House. Oh no, it's for the 928 00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:53,920 first time in decades. NPR media correspondent David Fauci flick 929 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,860 broke the story and joins us now. David, thank you for being 930 00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:59,980 with us. Pleasure. Pleasure post is known for its political 931 00:53:59,980 --> 00:54:03,060 coverage. It's the paper that broke the Watergate story and 932 00:54:03,060 --> 00:54:08,220 many more without fear or favor movies. Why is it stepping away 933 00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:10,680 from making an endorsement in this presidential race? 934 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,980 So let's go first to The stated reason, posted yesterday, just 935 00:54:13,980 --> 00:54:17,220 before noon, from the publisher and chief executive will Lewis. 936 00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:21,080 He says that the post wants to return to its roots independent 937 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,900 of partisan interests. It sort of has for decades style itself 938 00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:28,580 as an Independent newspaper under owner Jeff Bezos. He said 939 00:54:28,580 --> 00:54:30,800 they are going to for the future, not endorse in 940 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,940 presidential races, and seek to attain that now, this was a 941 00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:38,060 paper that has been editorially, largely supportive, not 942 00:54:38,060 --> 00:54:40,600 uniformly, but largely supportive, of the Biden Harris 943 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,020 administration. There had been a draft of an endorsement in the 944 00:54:44,020 --> 00:54:46,900 works endorsing vice president Kamala Harris for the 945 00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:51,220 presidency. And you know, this is a newspaper that has been in 946 00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:54,340 the vanguard of reporting on former President Donald Trump's 947 00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:57,640 alleged wrongdoing and potential illegalities in office, and has 948 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,140 denounced him editorially for that. I. On its editorial pages 949 00:55:01,140 --> 00:55:03,660 all throughout that proposed endorsement, which had been 950 00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:06,360 embraced by the editorial page editor. Doesn't come as a 951 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,940 surprise, but right now, if you're looking at it on its own 952 00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:12,120 terms, the explanation you look at a time when the media is 953 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,060 under attack, trust is at record lows, particularly among 954 00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:17,880 conservatives, especially among Trump supporters. This is, on 955 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,660 its surface, an effort by the owner, Jeff Bezos, to try to 956 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:22,100 remediate and address that. 957 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,060 What's the reaction been like at the post? Well, because of the 958 00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:28,580 Trump post record in its reporting and because of its 959 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,120 strong opinions talking about Trump being unfit for office in 960 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,300 its separately run editorial side, particularly as a result 961 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:38,720 of the January 2021, efforts to deny President Biden's 962 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,620 certification of his win, there's been fewer there's been 963 00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:44,620 tumult inside the post and to some degree outside of as well. 964 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,100 Resignation of Robert Kagan, a long time columnist, editor at 965 00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:50,320 large, he's been warning for years of Trump as an 966 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,420 authoritarian in the making. Robert 967 00:55:52,420 --> 00:55:54,400 Kagan is no liberal either. Before 968 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,380 Adam Curry: we go to the next step, I have some questions for 969 00:55:56,380 --> 00:56:00,960 you. So one Kagan, who was Victoria Newlands, husband, 970 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,780 John C Dvorak: yeah, neocon, war monging, mongering, epic war 971 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:10,200 con. But there's no liberal, quote, unquote, no liberal. All 972 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,780 the Neo cons came from the liberal side of things. So let's 973 00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:13,740 get that straight. 974 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,540 Adam Curry: What is the function of the editor at large? Is it 975 00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:22,040 just an editor who's a big guy, or is there some function that's 976 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,820 specific, that's not the editor, the editor at large. Is he at 977 00:56:25,820 --> 00:56:27,200 the top of the food chain? 978 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,740 John C Dvorak: No, the editor at large is largely a, I thought he 979 00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:36,740 was the editorial page editor, but he would editor, editor at 980 00:56:36,740 --> 00:56:40,400 large. Is his title? Okay? So the editor at large is largely 981 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:47,440 a, mostly a ceremonial title. It's given to somebody who's 982 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,600 been around for a while and they don't want to make him this, or 983 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,360 they don't want to make him that. I had the title at info 984 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,480 world for a while, while I was a columnist because I like I 985 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,940 because I couldn't be a contributing editor anymore, 986 00:56:57,940 --> 00:57:00,460 because I wasn't writing anything other than this column. 987 00:57:00,820 --> 00:57:04,140 And I decide, and I said, here, I want to be the consulting 988 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:04,800 editor. But 989 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,080 Adam Curry: do you walk around and you wrap your pencil on 990 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,560 people's desk and go, Hey, you're not doing it right? Or, 991 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,480 John C Dvorak: I mean, what the editor at large? Yeah, would 992 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,180 Adam Curry: you just have phone calls or meetings or, no, 993 00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:17,520 John C Dvorak: you don't do any of that. No, you just, it's just 994 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,940 a it's an honorary, it's basically, it's not, it's close 995 00:57:22,940 --> 00:57:26,120 to something like that. It's a bull crap title. It's the same 996 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,100 as consulting editor, which I was, it's a it's it's great. It 997 00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:35,300 sounds good. Yes. In other words, supposedly they call you 998 00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:37,280 once in a while, say, Hey, you're the consulting editor. 999 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,740 Can I consult with you? They never do that. I've never been 1000 00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:43,780 consulted to this day. Do you get paid for this? You, you're 1001 00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:46,900 like a consulting podcaster. Nobody's ever called you. They 1002 00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:49,420 you'd like, they invented it. Nobody ever says it. There's a 1003 00:57:49,420 --> 00:57:52,120 Adam. Can you help us for doing a podcast? Can give us a tip? 1004 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,900 No, they don't even bother. Lots of people ask you. So the editor 1005 00:57:55,900 --> 00:58:00,900 at large is just a guy that's supposedly you. He can. No, it 1006 00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,040 doesn't mean anything, 1007 00:58:02,220 --> 00:58:07,680 Adam Curry: but it sounds cool at cocktail parties in DC at 1008 00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:11,400 large or Washington Post, whatever large. 1009 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,920 John C Dvorak: I like the idea of being a fat guy, though, that 1010 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,240 would make it better. Well, he 1011 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,740 Adam Curry: is a fat guy, isn't he? Yeah, he's 1012 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:17,640 John C Dvorak: a fat guy. 1013 00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:20,720 Adam Curry: So okay, so now let's just take this into the 1014 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,040 overall perspective that so even though he's an I mean, are they? 1015 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:29,060 They're kicking out all the old Neo cons Newland, no, we're 1016 00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:31,460 moving to China. You don't know anything about China. You're 1017 00:58:31,460 --> 00:58:34,940 out. And by the way, that editor at large, husband of yours, he's 1018 00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:37,640 no good either, but he wants to endorse Kamala. We can't have 1019 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,580 that. It's Trump for China. Now I wonder if he's 1020 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,760 John C Dvorak: this is fitting into the pieces of the puzzle 1021 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,520 that may all be fitting together. Part Two may explain a 1022 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,120 little more 1023 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,700 Unknown: every Robert Kagan is no liberal, either he 1024 00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:54,280 is absolutely not, not a liberal, by any stretch, or 1025 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,300 means, 10 opinion writers at the post denounced the post decision 1026 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,740 in a posting they did on its own website. You saw Woodward and 1027 00:59:01,740 --> 00:59:05,460 Bernstein come out. You saw Marty Baron, the lionized former 1028 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:09,120 executive editor of the post, call it cowardice and spineless. 1029 00:59:09,180 --> 00:59:11,940 And you saw over 1600 cancelations of digital 1030 00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:14,580 subscriptions there three hours after the story broke. And 1031 00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:18,060 that's happening against a backdrop in which Trump has been 1032 00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:21,080 attempting to directly and expressly intimidate the press, 1033 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,140 saying that if he wins office once more, that he will wreak 1034 00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:27,080 vengeance against it. And if you think about Jeff Bezos, yes, 1035 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:27,740 hold 1036 00:59:27,740 --> 00:59:32,000 Adam Curry: on a second, this is now they just went to nonsense. 1037 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:32,660 Well, 1038 00:59:32,660 --> 00:59:35,900 John C Dvorak: this is the irony of the whole thing to me, which 1039 00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:39,440 is that it's the left and these, you know, the msnbcs and all the 1040 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,580 rest that make all this stuff up about Trump because he says 1041 00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:45,820 something casually or just jokingly, or he doesn't say it 1042 00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:50,440 at all, and they make it up, and they've literally scared their 1043 00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:53,560 own pants off, expressly 1044 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,260 Unknown: intimidate the press, saying that if he wins office 1045 00:59:56,260 --> 00:59:59,320 once more, that he will wreak vengeance against it. And you 1046 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,620 think about you. Bezos, yes, he's the owner of the post, but 1047 01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:04,380 of course, the founder of Amazon, he has a ton of business 1048 01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:06,660 interests worth billions involving the federal 1049 01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:11,160 government. Amazon shipping its cloud and China computing 1050 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,920 contracts, and his space company, Blue Origin, has a 1051 01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:16,560 multi billion dollar deal with federal government to take 1052 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,640 people into the heavens. 1053 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,320 This follows a similar decision by the publisher of the Los 1054 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,820 Angeles Times. Is it a similar story and reasoning by the owner 1055 01:00:25,820 --> 01:00:26,180 there? 1056 01:00:26,180 --> 01:00:29,000 Yeah. And interestingly, there is no formal publisher there. 1057 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,700 It's all being decided by owner Patrick soon showing there had 1058 01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:35,420 also been an editorial in support of Kamala Harris being 1059 01:00:35,420 --> 01:00:39,260 drafted, and he decided to kill it. That led to the resignation 1060 01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:42,160 of the editorial center and two other editorial writers there. 1061 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,160 Patrick soon song again, a civic leader stepped forward to buy 1062 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,440 the times to try to sustain it in the same time. He's a 1063 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,680 billionaire physician, inventor with major interest before 1064 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,400 federal regulators should Trump wins again. He is threatening 1065 01:00:54,460 --> 01:00:57,580 this vengeance that I mentioned. And so here's the question, Are 1066 01:00:57,580 --> 01:01:00,300 these figures trying to, at a time of low trust in the media, 1067 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,840 redefine their papers as more independent and away from 1068 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,080 partisan interests just days before an election that their 1069 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,260 own editorial pages say may define the future of the 1070 01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:13,800 American democratic experiment for decades to come. Or is this 1071 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,740 a moment where paper are buckling in the face of 1072 01:01:16,740 --> 01:01:19,500 potential pressure, because of course, this race is so close 1073 01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:21,320 they don't know who's going to 1074 01:01:21,620 --> 01:01:26,000 Adam Curry: win soon, Xing of LA Times, also Chinese, American, 1075 01:01:27,140 --> 01:01:30,620 John C Dvorak: I may be, yeah, but when I see what, I get a 1076 01:01:30,620 --> 01:01:34,520 kick out of this guy, 10 guy, oh, we're right. We quit. And 1077 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,300 they're quitting to 1078 01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:37,160 Unknown: do what? Rage quitting? 1079 01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:39,440 John C Dvorak: They're rage quitting. And there's no 1080 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,000 business. It's the dying industry. The newspaper industry 1081 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,720 is Get down, going down the tubes, and they're gonna quit to 1082 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:51,040 go do what, just make themselves homeless. This is beyond me. 1083 01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:54,700 Adam Curry: It's a very interesting twist. It's clear 1084 01:01:54,700 --> 01:01:59,140 that they can't go against Trump. It's not that they don't 1085 01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:02,040 want people to go for commas that can't go against Trump. 1086 01:02:02,220 --> 01:02:07,740 Whether it's for Okay, Bezos, is the business interest sketchy? 1087 01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:14,460 Maybe, I don't know, but it's all part of the he has to win, 1088 01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:18,600 particularly when the race is this close. Race is so close, 1089 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,320 you can almost 1090 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,200 John C Dvorak: get that voice, that guy's voice, that'd be 1091 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,720 good. You add that to your arsenal. With the Dutch guy, my 1092 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,780 Adam Curry: arsenal of almost. I'm almost there. You 1093 01:02:29,780 --> 01:02:32,060 John C Dvorak: have an arsenal of almost. 1094 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:35,120 Adam Curry: I want to wrap up the Russia thing. Then I want to 1095 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,240 come back to the media. Who are you know, along well, 1096 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,680 John C Dvorak: before you do that, we're still in the 1097 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,620 campaign. I wanted to finish get I 1098 01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:44,140 Adam Curry: was doing Russia. I wanted to finish up Russia. 1099 01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:48,100 Yeah, you moved off the camera. No, no, no. You stole me. You 1100 01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:53,800 stole my vibe going from Russia into WaPo. It's okay. I just 1101 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,600 have one clip. Oh, well, 1102 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,460 John C Dvorak: once you play your clip. I just wanted to get 1103 01:02:57,460 --> 01:03:01,560 these two campaign wraps you because I wanted to play him is 1104 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,720 because they're from the nation's treasure. Yes, 1105 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,360 Adam Curry: no, you're going to have to, I insist you play them. 1106 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:09,660 I just want to play because this is something that was flying 1107 01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:15,360 under the radar. And this is, uh, Grandma Yellen, who I think 1108 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,780 is younger than I am. Yellen who, uh, did the keynote for the 1109 01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:27,380 IMF, World Bank, Jamboree, did you see any of this? No, I 1110 01:03:27,380 --> 01:03:29,000 John C Dvorak: have no idea what you're talking about. 1111 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,120 Adam Curry: So the IMF and the World Bank have a big meeting a 1112 01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:35,960 couple days back. It's a whole week of meetings. I just call it 1113 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,840 the jamboree. And she opened it up and she talked about Ukraine, 1114 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:44,860 Ukraine. Sorry, Ukraine. And there was something very 1115 01:03:44,860 --> 01:03:49,360 interesting, some stuff we knew about the the loan to Ukraine, 1116 01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:52,840 where that's coming from, the stolen Russian money. But wait 1117 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,180 until you hear how she wraps this up. You 1118 01:03:55,180 --> 01:04:01,200 Unknown: You mentioned the $50 billion loan that the g7 leaders 1119 01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:07,860 agreed to provide to Ukraine, and asked me about the status of 1120 01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:13,440 it. We're very close to finalizing Americans, America's 1121 01:04:13,740 --> 01:04:19,020 portion of this $50 billion loan package. And what I want to 1122 01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:25,280 emphasize is that the source of financing for these loans, this 1123 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:30,080 is not the American taxpayer. What's happening here is that 1124 01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:35,000 Russia is paying for this support, the 50 billion of 1125 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:41,380 support that we intend to go to Ukraine by the end of this year, 1126 01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:49,060 it is the income on the assets that have been mobilized, 1127 01:04:49,780 --> 01:04:55,420 Russian sovereign assets that have been mobilized in Euroclear 1128 01:04:55,660 --> 01:05:01,800 that are the source of repayment and with a. Agreed with Ukraine 1129 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:10,920 that even if there is a final settlement and truces reached, 1130 01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:16,920 that it will be Russian funds that will go to repay these 1131 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:17,520 loans. 1132 01:05:21,060 --> 01:05:24,200 Adam Curry: I'm sure Russia is gonna love that. So it's 1133 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,600 Russia's money, and they're gonna repay it with Russia's 1134 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,080 money. 1135 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:33,500 John C Dvorak: You know? The funny thing is, the isn't that a 1136 01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:39,260 tranche of 300 billion? Yes, yes, and somehow the interest is 1137 01:05:39,260 --> 01:05:40,960 50 billion. You know, I 1138 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,360 Adam Curry: thought this exact same thing, like, you're not 1139 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,140 investing this in money markets. What did you do with that? Did 1140 01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:49,960 John C Dvorak: you Yeah, this is, this is a return that's way 1141 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,500 over 10% 1142 01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:53,620 Adam Curry: did you buy Nvidia stocks? Or what is the 20% 1143 01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:55,900 return? What? Yes, exactly. 1144 01:05:56,380 --> 01:05:58,420 John C Dvorak: They put the Russian money in. It's 1145 01:05:58,420 --> 01:06:03,480 Adam Curry: not the S P. I mean, is S, P up 20% No, no, not. 1146 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,980 John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, maybe over a period 1147 01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:07,680 Adam Curry: in years. Yeah, 1148 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,620 John C Dvorak: this is not right. No, these numbers don't 1149 01:06:10,620 --> 01:06:11,700 make sense, but we're 1150 01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:14,100 Adam Curry: the ones cutting the check. That's the big joke of it 1151 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:16,980 all. It's secure. Don't worry. It's this extra money that's 1152 01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:21,320 floating around that. Or maybe that's just how banking actually 1153 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,920 works behind the scenes. You, you stupid people, you can get 1154 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,000 your money market, and somehow we've, we've, we get 20% return. 1155 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,480 Who knows? All right, let's go to your rap. Hold on a second. 1156 01:06:32,540 --> 01:06:35,060 Oh, wait, at least of America. 1157 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,100 Unknown: This is NPR, 1158 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,900 John C Dvorak: or I wanted to do before it says you talked about 1159 01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:43,720 Ukraine. I wanted to do the Ukraine update before we do 1160 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:44,080 that. 1161 01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:46,840 Adam Curry: Okay, Ukraine? What's PBS so it fits with the 1162 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,200 jingle. 1163 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,500 John C Dvorak: Then Ukraine is the other nations national 1164 01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:51,280 treasure, treasure 1165 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,340 Unknown: in Ukraine. Russian drones struck Kyiv in an hours 1166 01:06:54,340 --> 01:06:58,360 long nighttime barrage. Ukraine and Ukrainian officials said one 1167 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,680 went into an apartment building, killing a 15 year old girl and 1168 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,220 injuring five others. And in central Ukraine, a missile 1169 01:07:05,220 --> 01:07:08,880 struck a residential area in Dnipro, regional officials said 1170 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,300 a 14 year old and four others were killed and at least 21 1171 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:14,280 others injured. We 1172 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,160 Adam Curry: should have never, ever let that happen. 1173 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,120 John C Dvorak: We should know that's for sure. No, no, 1174 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,340 Adam Curry: but, but, let me tell you what I mean. We should 1175 01:07:22,340 --> 01:07:28,640 have never let them force people to change from Kyiv to Kyiv. Oh, 1176 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,240 Kyiv. That's, that's horse crap. I'm just going to go back to 1177 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:37,040 saying Kyiv. That is so remember if you said Kyiv, if you said 1178 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,080 Kyiv, then you were a Russian agent. That was pretty much what 1179 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,900 they say, Oh no, it's Kyiv. If you say Kyiv, you're, you're, 1180 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,640 you're carrying water for Putin. 1181 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,900 John C Dvorak: That was the Russians that pronounce it Kyiv. 1182 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:50,860 No, 1183 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:56,380 Adam Curry: no. The Ukrainians do Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. In Russian, 1184 01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,660 Kyiv. And we say Kyiv, or at least we used to, until the 1185 01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:02,160 whole media change. Oh 1186 01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:04,320 John C Dvorak: yeah. This is like, yeah, Freedom price. 1187 01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:06,060 Adam Curry: Can't say that. Oh 1188 01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:09,660 John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. We're getting pushed around too much 1189 01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:10,800 now. We're I'm 1190 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,340 Adam Curry: putting my foot down. Kyiv, put my foot down on 1191 01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:19,140 that. I want chicken, but his foot stomping. My foot down. All 1192 01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:20,160 right. Campaign, right? 1193 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,920 John C Dvorak: I want to get this to be the end of the 1194 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,360 election coverage for today's show. 1195 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,440 Adam Curry: Okay, I have, I have two more within 1196 01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:29,480 John C Dvorak: the in follow it up with, with what I'm gonna 1197 01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:32,720 follow it up I'm gonna, no, this is from the National Treasure 1198 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,100 NPR campaign. 1199 01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:37,520 Adam Curry: Wrap one on 1200 01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:39,380 John C Dvorak: the campaign trail. Both presidential 1201 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,080 Unknown: candidates are stumping for undecided. Voters in swing 1202 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,560 states today. Vice President Harris rallied in Michigan with 1203 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,800 former First Lady Michelle Obama. Harris touched on 1204 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,460 familiar themes, including the rising cost of health care. 1205 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,720 I believe health care should be a right and not just a privilege 1206 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,720 of those who have the money to afford it. 1207 01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:12,360 On the other hand, we've got Donald Trump who intends to end 1208 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,400 the Affordable Care Act. Oh, 1209 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:21,200 Adam Curry: please. They're so wildly exaggerating everything, 1210 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,540 particularly Roe v Wade, which was not a law. It was a Supreme 1211 01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:30,860 Court decision. And this, it's gone back to the States, but 1212 01:09:30,860 --> 01:09:34,040 somehow Trump is going to make it law that, you know, you know, 1213 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:34,520 it's 1214 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,820 John C Dvorak: funny is that these the states, like states 1215 01:09:37,820 --> 01:09:40,900 like California, where it's, you know, abortion is legal, and 1216 01:09:40,900 --> 01:09:43,960 they can do it, you know, under normal circumstance, but 1217 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,360 everyone's voting for comedy here. 1218 01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:47,379 Adam Curry: Why would you do that? 1219 01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,300 John C Dvorak: It's already this. It's a done deal. What are 1220 01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:52,480 you bitching about? Why are you complaining about it? About any 1221 01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:56,680 of it in California or Colorado, for that matter, where you can 1222 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,140 go nine months and have an abortion as the baby's head is 1223 01:09:59,140 --> 01:10:00,360 popping out. I mean. Why? 1224 01:10:00,420 --> 01:10:03,300 Adam Curry: Why is KTLA running? Reports that it's a close 1225 01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:05,700 election. What do they care? They're not getting any extra ad 1226 01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:10,200 money. This is just claiming. They're just 1227 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,820 John C Dvorak: following the leader. That's what you do. 1228 01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:13,920 Okay, they said radio guys. They don't know 1229 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,860 Adam Curry: what the hell's going on. Come on radio guys. 1230 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,960 KTLA is a television station. 1231 01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:21,680 John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, well, they say radio guys that moved 1232 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:28,280 to TV. So the the, the thing about this last clip was that 1233 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,940 they're talking about, it's a raise, rising cost and health 1234 01:10:31,940 --> 01:10:35,540 care. I'm sorry, everything's getting bad and and then 1235 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,740 Adam Curry: the I just want to I'm still stuck. It just kind of 1236 01:10:39,740 --> 01:10:44,980 hit me where you the baby's head pops out, kill it. Man, that was 1237 01:10:44,980 --> 01:10:49,240 a gruesome, gruesome thing you just said, yeah. Well, happens, 1238 01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:52,180 okay, I'm sorry. Back to Colorado, back to you, bro, 1239 01:10:53,260 --> 01:10:57,400 John C Dvorak: the rising cost of health care and then and 1240 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,540 Trump wants to kill their wait. The Affordable Care Act is 1241 01:11:00,540 --> 01:11:04,140 supposed to make it affordable. Why is it rising? Yeah, it's in 1242 01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:08,340 play right now. It's not gone. It's in play. We are under its 1243 01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:11,700 influence. But how come things are rising? Did you answer that 1244 01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:13,320 question came up Trump 1245 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,480 Unknown: campaigned in two states today, starting in a 1246 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:19,140 Detroit suburb, where he slammed early voting, even though it was 1247 01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:22,040 a rally to mark the start of statewide early voting in 1248 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,980 Michigan tonight, Trump campaigned on the Penn State 1249 01:11:24,980 --> 01:11:27,860 campus in State College Pennsylvania. Kamala will 1250 01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:31,820 destroy your inheritance, but much more importantly, she's 1251 01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:34,700 going to destroy your country. If you vote for me, I will 1252 01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:38,660 ensure that you begin your careers young people in a 1253 01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:42,460 roaring economy in a time of unprecedented peace and 1254 01:11:42,460 --> 01:11:43,120 prosperity, 1255 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,820 Trump's using the college setting to make a direct appeal 1256 01:11:45,820 --> 01:11:49,480 to first time voters and early in person voting did kick off 1257 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:52,780 across Michigan today as NPRs, Hansi, la Wong reports, more 1258 01:11:52,780 --> 01:11:55,360 than 40 million voters around the country have cast their 1259 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,380 ballots so far. 1260 01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:59,380 Eligible Michiganders throughout the swing state can now catch up 1261 01:11:59,380 --> 01:12:02,160 with early voters in the Detroit area and East Lansing, where in 1262 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,500 person voting at the polls started days ago, ahead of the 1263 01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:06,840 rest of the state. If you're eligible to cast a ballot in 1264 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,660 Michigan but haven't registered yet, you still have time to sign 1265 01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:12,720 up at your local clerk's office through Election Day, the last 1266 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,120 day of voting outside of the swing state though, voter 1267 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,120 registration for this fall's election is closing today in 1268 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,440 Massachusetts and New York, eligible voters there have hours 1269 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:24,740 left to register in person or online. Around the country, 1270 01:12:24,740 --> 01:12:27,260 election officials have raised concerns about potential mail 1271 01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:30,320 delays if you plan to vote by mail, the Postal Service is 1272 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,680 urging you to check your state's deadline and return your ballot 1273 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,660 at least one week before that date 1274 01:12:37,700 --> 01:12:39,020 Adam Curry: mail in ballots. 1275 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,260 Unknown: Yeah, it's a plague. 1276 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,120 Adam Curry: Well, because you brought up affordable, the 1277 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,200 Affordable Care Act, formerly known as Obamacare, President 1278 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,020 Trump said something about making America healthy again 1279 01:12:53,020 --> 01:12:57,280 that. I mean, I think it was reading off the prompter. So I'm 1280 01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:02,460 not quite sure if, if this was a mistake. Or listen to this, tell 1281 01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:03,960 me if you hear the same thing I hear. 1282 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,680 Unknown: As we secure our borders and rebuild our economy, 1283 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,400 we are also going to make America healthy again. Now, 1284 01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:15,300 Adam Curry: you think this is teleprompter, seems like it's 1285 01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:18,840 teleprompter, right? This is a teleprompter bit, yeah. All 1286 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:19,140 right, 1287 01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:25,760 Unknown: the Kamala health care plan will make our kids sicker 1288 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,740 and their diets more toxic. Under the Trump administration, 1289 01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:34,100 we will get the toxic chemicals out of our food supply, and we 1290 01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:39,860 will make our children healthier. We will spend more 1291 01:13:39,860 --> 01:13:42,700 money on health care than any other nation. But 1292 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,560 Adam Curry: think of that, what 1293 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,060 John C Dvorak: we will already spending more money on health 1294 01:13:49,060 --> 01:13:50,380 care than any other nation? 1295 01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:53,440 Adam Curry: Is he going to spend more on health care than any 1296 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,840 other nation? This is what I don't understand. Spend 1297 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,960 Unknown: more money on health care than any other nation. But 1298 01:13:59,620 --> 01:14:02,760 think of that. You know we do. I don't know if you know we spend. 1299 01:14:02,820 --> 01:14:05,220 Adam Curry: Oh, I think, I think he realizes that he's screwed up 1300 01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:07,980 here. Yeah, I think you're right, because you'll think of 1301 01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:08,820 that now we've 1302 01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:12,300 John C Dvorak: spent more money on healthcare. He left out 1303 01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:16,020 weave, and he we, he's he weaved. 1304 01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:18,000 Adam Curry: He weaved in the wrong direction. Weaved himself. 1305 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,980 Yes. He didn't let the loom come back on the 1306 01:14:19,980 --> 01:14:23,360 John C Dvorak: weave. So he said we, instead of saying we've 1307 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,380 spent more money, he said we're going going to spend more. 1308 01:14:29,060 --> 01:14:32,180 Adam Curry: When I heard that doesn't sound right, that's a 1309 01:14:32,180 --> 01:14:36,020 total screw up. You're right. Good catch now, tonight is the 1310 01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:42,040 big Madison Square Garden. See Kyle. Hang up the swastikas. I 1311 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,580 didn't clip, but I heard Governor hokel this morning on 1312 01:14:45,580 --> 01:14:50,200 MSNBC. She's saying, Oh no, I think I think Trump is coming to 1313 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,640 New York to wave the white flag of surrender. Okay. What? Yeah, 1314 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,420 yeah, it would have been a good clip. Anyway, Mayor Adams was 1315 01:14:58,420 --> 01:15:03,180 questioned about a. About Trump being a fascist and Hitler and a 1316 01:15:03,180 --> 01:15:09,060 horrible person. I recall that Trump kind of, kind of, was nice 1317 01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:10,740 to Adams is very 1318 01:15:10,740 --> 01:15:12,600 John C Dvorak: nice to him at the L Smith dinner house. He 1319 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,960 complimented him. He told he told him that he'll get over it. 1320 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,380 This will be fine. He'll get out of this quagmire he's stuck in. 1321 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:22,760 Adam Curry: I think that Adams has chosen his camp. Hi, Mr. 1322 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,000 Mayor. I 1323 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,280 Unknown: wondered if I could ask you about any communications 1324 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,620 you've been having with the Trump campaign about this rally 1325 01:15:27,620 --> 01:15:29,900 or otherwise, and if you believe, as others have said, 1326 01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:32,000 that the former president is fascist, 1327 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,080 Adam Curry: fascist as a journalist, can you believe that 1328 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:40,040 you're sent down to the press conference for the mayor? Now 1329 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,660 ask him, do you think Trump is a fascist? Here's the question. 1330 01:15:43,780 --> 01:15:46,120 It's like stuttering John level questions. 1331 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,340 John C Dvorak: That's a good, good analogy, stuttering John. 1332 01:15:51,340 --> 01:15:51,580 That's 1333 01:15:51,580 --> 01:15:53,680 Adam Curry: what that's what stern used to back when Stern 1334 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,680 was stern, he would give stuttering John crazy questions 1335 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,080 like that. Hey, do you think Trump's a fascist? And everyone 1336 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,500 would be laughing about it. And now it's just a serious 1337 01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:02,160 question. Ask you 1338 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,720 Unknown: about any communications you've been 1339 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,240 having with the Trump campaign about this rally or otherwise, 1340 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,520 and if you believe, as others have said, that the former 1341 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,080 president is fascist, you 1342 01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:16,560 know, I have been had those terms hurled at me by some 1343 01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:22,460 political leaders in the city using terms like Hitler and 1344 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:33,080 fascis, my answer is, No, I know what Hitler has done, and I know 1345 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:39,380 what a fascis regime looks like. I think, as I've called over and 1346 01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:45,100 over again, that the level of conversation, I think we could 1347 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:49,300 all dial down the temperature. And I've heard people say that 1348 01:16:49,780 --> 01:16:54,100 the former president should not be able to have a rally in 1349 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,060 Madison Square Garden. I strongly disagree. This is 1350 01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:03,000 America. This is New York, and I think it's important that we 1351 01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:09,180 allow individuals to exercise their right to get their message 1352 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,980 clear to New Yorkers, and our job as a city and as a police 1353 01:17:13,980 --> 01:17:17,100 department is to make sure they can do that in a peaceful in a 1354 01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:24,020 peaceful way. I think that we must be extremely cautious. The 1355 01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:28,640 heat we turn up today, pre election, is going to have to be 1356 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,760 the heat we're going to have to govern it. And I think we need 1357 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:36,020 to show a level of respectable communication. 1358 01:17:36,740 --> 01:17:40,220 Adam Curry: Uncle Tom is what he is there they said, with Trump, 1359 01:17:40,220 --> 01:17:41,860 uncle, 1360 01:17:41,980 --> 01:17:43,540 John C Dvorak: I can see him being called out. Oh 1361 01:17:43,540 --> 01:17:48,340 Adam Curry: yeah, oh yeah. So I'm pretty convinced, just based 1362 01:17:48,340 --> 01:17:51,820 upon my own theory. And for a while, we've been talking about 1363 01:17:52,180 --> 01:17:56,560 the they the system, how everybody benefits if Trump 1364 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,500 wins, the real everybody, especially the media, everybody 1365 01:17:59,500 --> 01:18:02,520 benefits if he wins, and probably the country, which 1366 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:08,700 would be nice. But if, if he does, now for if he doesn't, 1367 01:18:09,180 --> 01:18:11,940 it'll be an interesting four more years for us. If he does, 1368 01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:14,040 it'll be an interesting four more years for us. No, it's 1369 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:14,280 going 1370 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,740 John C Dvorak: to be interesting four years, whatever. But no 1371 01:18:16,740 --> 01:18:18,300 doubt about it. But for Joe 1372 01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:22,040 Adam Curry: Scarborough, who had to sit down with Jimmy Kimmel. I 1373 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:22,940 would like, 1374 01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:26,300 John C Dvorak: Oh, that was a pathetic it was like two old 1375 01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:31,160 ladies. They should have both been knitting. I would like 1376 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,220 Adam Curry: our no agenda producers to have compassion for 1377 01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:38,960 these men, because they they are very emotional about the even 1378 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,140 the idea of Trump winning, 1379 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,720 Unknown: I think that there are certain news networks, if you 1380 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,680 want to call them, that who are lying to people. I think that 1381 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,040 there's a certain generation of which we are a part who are used 1382 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,940 to watching television and seeing the white man in a suit 1383 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,880 telling us what's going on in the world and believing that 1384 01:18:57,940 --> 01:19:02,400 what he's saying is true. I think that is ingrained in us as 1385 01:19:02,460 --> 01:19:06,480 Americans. We grew up with Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw and Peter 1386 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,420 Jennings, and we did not question that what they were 1387 01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:13,620 telling us was factual. And a lot of people now are looking at 1388 01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:17,340 Sean Hannity and whomever else, and they are not questioning 1389 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,480 whether or not what they're saying is factual and what 1390 01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:23,420 they're hearing is untrue. This 1391 01:19:23,420 --> 01:19:29,540 Adam Curry: is so telling. First of all, when, when did Broca and 1392 01:19:29,540 --> 01:19:34,400 Jennings and rather go off the air 20 years ago? 1393 01:19:36,740 --> 01:19:38,180 John C Dvorak: It was a long time ago. 1394 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,260 Adam Curry: So there, you know, I don't know who you're talking 1395 01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:44,680 to, but most people don't even know these names. 1396 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,140 John C Dvorak: I'm surprised they didn't bring up Walter 1397 01:19:47,140 --> 01:19:53,920 Cronkite and and what's the two did to Huntley Brinkley, there's 1398 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:59,500 my favorite dude, Huntley and Brinkley, okay, when Walter 1399 01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:02,340 Cronkite. Night and Huntley and Brinkley were on the air. This 1400 01:20:02,340 --> 01:20:03,120 is not the way it 1401 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,780 Adam Curry: was going. R Murrow did things right, damn it. And I 1402 01:20:06,780 --> 01:20:07,140 can 1403 01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:11,040 John C Dvorak: come on, check the calendar, 1404 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,860 Unknown: what they think, because they're being told 1405 01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:17,280 there's a caravan of migrants coming, and then nobody's 1406 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,360 following up at the end and say, oh, there was no caravan of 1407 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,740 migrants coming. 1408 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,280 Adam Curry: There was a caravan of migrants. There's 1409 01:20:26,540 --> 01:20:28,280 Unknown: a million load of 1410 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,400 John C Dvorak: caravans of migrants. There's video. 1411 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,800 Adam Curry: There's millions and millions of them 1412 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:38,960 Unknown: coming. And Aurora Colorado has not been taken over 1413 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,700 by Venezuelan street gangs. And by the way, this story about 1414 01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:46,240 cats and dogs being devoured by Haitian immigrants in 1415 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,500 Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, 1416 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:55,240 they're eating the cats. They're eating they're eating the pets, 1417 01:20:55,420 --> 01:20:55,840 is 1418 01:20:56,140 --> 01:20:59,200 preposterous. I will tell you, I've been dreaming the last 1419 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:04,380 three nights. I've been just going, been going through all 1420 01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:07,200 this craziness over and over again. It's really starting to 1421 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,020 take a toll, like, I just, I can't get it out of my head. 1422 01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:10,380 Okay, 1423 01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:13,620 Adam Curry: so this is where he gets emotional, because he's, I 1424 01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:18,360 think he sees the writing on the wall and and you can hear it in 1425 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:23,720 his voice. He's very, very concerned about the possibility 1426 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,240 of a Trump victory. I 1427 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,280 John C Dvorak: want to mention something we have to remember, 1428 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,760 that on his during one of his monologs During the Trump 1429 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:36,920 presidency, he literally cried on stage. He cried, yeah, he 1430 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:40,120 cried about something that he thinks Trump did or didn't do, 1431 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,140 whatever it was. It was ludicrous. And he's, uh, hates 1432 01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:47,560 Trump, and it's just, and it shows up in his comedy, and it 1433 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,380 shows, if you want to call it that. So 1434 01:21:50,380 --> 01:21:54,100 Adam Curry: here we go, here's here's the and again, have 1435 01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:59,140 compassion for this man. I ask you, just forgive him. I am 1436 01:21:59,140 --> 01:22:02,700 going to have compassion. I'm not spiking the ball. If Trump 1437 01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:04,740 wins, I'm just going to have compassion. Do 1438 01:22:04,740 --> 01:22:05,940 Unknown: you look forward to the day 1439 01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:09,840 when you don't have to? Because one of the things that is so 1440 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,860 exhausting to me and why, there have been several times I don't 1441 01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:18,240 think I can do this anymore. Don't want to talk about I don't 1442 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,760 care who it is, the same person every day. And yet, 1443 01:22:24,020 --> 01:22:27,200 Adam Curry: your whole career is based on talking about Trump 1444 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,740 every single day. Scarborough. What are you talking about 1445 01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:35,900 Unknown: every day? And yet, every day, you're more 1446 01:22:35,900 --> 01:22:38,180 outrageous things said. So if you don't talk about it, it's 1447 01:22:38,180 --> 01:22:41,620 like you're given permission. Do you look forward to the day 1448 01:22:41,620 --> 01:22:41,980 when, 1449 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,000 oh, boy, do 1450 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,180 I not only do I look forward to the day, I have to, I was 1451 01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:50,140 telling my wife, I don't feel like I'm mentally prepared for 1452 01:22:50,140 --> 01:22:55,540 the possibility of a loss. I'm not ready for I like I have to, 1453 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,480 Adam Curry: I think he needs another vacation. I have 1454 01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:02,040 Unknown: to get there where I'm ready for either scenario or for 1455 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,640 no scenario, which is might be the case for several days. Oh, 1456 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,800 yeah, the grids going down so and I have to also kind of think 1457 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,040 through what I might say the next day, because, you know, I 1458 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,940 mean, you're gonna have to be up the next morning talking about 1459 01:23:17,940 --> 01:23:18,840 what happened for 1460 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,820 Adam Curry: all 300,000 people that listen to Morning Joe, 1461 01:23:22,820 --> 01:23:26,060 Unknown: what didn't happen? And what message do you want to send 1462 01:23:26,060 --> 01:23:30,920 to people who watch the show? It's, you know, most of my shows 1463 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,800 aren't important. That one seems a little bit more important than 1464 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,920 others, because I do have a lot of people kind of asking me what 1465 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,140 I think and going along with what I think. And it's a big 1466 01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:44,380 responsibility, you know. So I don't even remember what I said 1467 01:23:44,380 --> 01:23:47,920 the last time he won. I just remember staying up almost all 1468 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,780 night and trying to process it, my wife being very, very upset 1469 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:57,040 and feeling very alone, like I got to figure out what I'm going 1470 01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,580 to say. Nobody can figure this out for me, none of my writers 1471 01:24:00,820 --> 01:24:04,380 can figure out my take on this. I have to tell them what it is. 1472 01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:06,360 Adam Curry: I mean, I feel his pain. 1473 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,020 John C Dvorak: I'm like, Yeah, jerk. 1474 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,560 Adam Curry: I feel his pain. I mean, what will we say the next 1475 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:19,980 day? If Harris wins, we'll be like, All right, all right. The 1476 01:24:19,980 --> 01:24:22,940 what's going on now, we'll just keep on going. I don't think 1477 01:24:22,940 --> 01:24:28,160 that it was so so spun up over all this. It is just, goodness 1478 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:33,800 gracious everybody. Chill out. It's, it's really interesting 1479 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:39,980 how, how spun up everybody is over this. Well, not everybody. 1480 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,580 Well, no, not everybody. There's a lot of no agenda. People are 1481 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:47,260 totally not spun up over it. No, why should you be exactly, it's 1482 01:24:47,260 --> 01:24:50,800 not the end of this. And yeah, Trump will be great. It's not 1483 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,440 you can't vote your way out of the problems we have. 1484 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,060 John C Dvorak: We know state's not going to help much. No, it's 1485 01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,800 when Elon comes in. Oh, 1486 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,440 Adam Curry: yeah. That's right, he'll fix it. That's right. 1487 01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:04,920 Elon, he'll fix it. Yeah, he's gonna fix it. Hey, with that, I 1488 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,020 want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to 1489 01:25:07,020 --> 01:25:10,260 you, the man who put the C and counseling, editor of PC 1490 01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:11,100 Magazine, 1491 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,000 John C Dvorak: consulting. What did I say? He said, counseling. 1492 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,400 Counseling editor, hey, you guys, you guys. You guys. The 1493 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,220 Adam Curry: consulting editor of PC magazines. Hello to my 1494 01:25:25,220 --> 01:25:27,860 friend. Let me go the end the one and only. Mr. John C D, 1495 01:25:31,580 --> 01:25:33,980 John C Dvorak: consulting editor of info world, by the way, not 1496 01:25:33,980 --> 01:25:37,340 the PC Magazine, but that's okay. In the morning to you, Mr. 1497 01:25:37,340 --> 01:25:39,800 Adam curry, also in the morning. He ships the seat boost to the 1498 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:45,580 ground, feet in the air, subs in the water. Wow, 1499 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,460 Adam Curry: all right, oh no, it's not Wow, or is it Wow? 1500 01:25:48,460 --> 01:25:53,380 What's it supposed to be on Sundays? 1800 brother, it's 2400 1501 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,120 on on Sundays, 1502 01:25:55,420 --> 01:25:55,900 Unknown: yeah, 1503 01:25:56,140 --> 01:25:58,240 Adam Curry: we're 2321 so we're close, 1504 01:25:58,420 --> 01:26:01,860 John C Dvorak: we're low, and it's the 17th anniversary show, 1505 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,640 Adam Curry: people are at church. Man, they got other 1506 01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:06,480 things to 1507 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,600 John C Dvorak: do. They weren't at church when we hit 4000 1508 01:26:10,860 --> 01:26:12,360 Adam Curry: I don't remember when we hit 4000 1509 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,900 John C Dvorak: that was a while ago. That was the height. Yeah, 1510 01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:18,840 that was that during COVID, probably during COVID. No, no. 1511 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,120 That was the recent It was recently, during COVID, we hit 1512 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,540 34 once, yeah, yeah, though they're raking it was a Sunday, 1513 01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:29,120 so they weren't at church. Then either, of course, during COVID, 1514 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,860 you couldn't go to church. It was illegal. 1515 01:26:31,460 --> 01:26:33,800 Adam Curry: Is there a football game on by any chance there must 1516 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,280 be football, 1517 01:26:34,340 --> 01:26:36,860 John C Dvorak: not a good football game. Hey, 1518 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,080 Adam Curry: any football game other than listening to no 1519 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:44,620 agenda? I'm all in on that, by the way, nice to see that pit 1520 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,780 won. Remember it was, 1521 01:26:47,260 --> 01:26:50,320 John C Dvorak: oh, you know Cody, well, pit Dolly, one. They 1522 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,100 literally embarrassed, embarrassed Syracuse. But I have 1523 01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:56,800 to, I just have to say, I don't know what we were thinking. We 1524 01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,180 had a policy, and I want to reiterate the policy, we do not 1525 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,080 do karma for sports teams. That's right. And we do see the 1526 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,280 reason why, and because 1527 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,080 Adam Curry: we forget to bet on it, that's why. 1528 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,460 John C Dvorak: Yes, no, the reason why, because it gives the 1529 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:14,940 team an unfair advantage. We're not going to do 1530 01:27:14,940 --> 01:27:18,780 Adam Curry: it. Remember, it was, it was a Commodore. It was 1531 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:24,980 a Dota who came in with a Commodore ship for his son. And 1532 01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:29,000 then we were we slipped. We did? We slip? We slipped. I'm sorry. 1533 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,540 And you see what happens? Boom, they win. And not just by a 1534 01:27:32,540 --> 01:27:34,580 little bit. It was embarrassing. What happened? 1535 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,500 John C Dvorak: It was an embarrassing, I think it was a 1536 01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:39,080 shutout or something. It was outrageous. Interception after 1537 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,820 interception. Yeah, they set the record for three intercept. It 1538 01:27:42,820 --> 01:27:46,660 was not just interceptions. It was three pick sixes, which is 1539 01:27:46,660 --> 01:27:49,300 an intersection, an interception, where you run it 1540 01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:51,820 into the end zones, dude, I'm just explaining it to you and 1541 01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:52,420 everyone else. 1542 01:27:52,780 --> 01:27:55,240 Adam Curry: Thank you, because I forgot there 1543 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,720 John C Dvorak: was three pick sixes in the first half. What 1544 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,900 Adam Curry: does that even mean? Pick sixes? 1545 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,180 John C Dvorak: I just explained it. No, you do make an 1546 01:28:03,180 --> 01:28:06,120 interception and score a touchdown with the interception. 1547 01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:06,840 Oh, that's 1548 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,420 Adam Curry: called a pick six, yeah, because you picked it out 1549 01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:12,600 of the air and you made six points. Boom, 1550 01:28:13,980 --> 01:28:14,940 Unknown: hello. 1551 01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:16,740 That's with the conversion. 1552 01:28:16,980 --> 01:28:20,780 Adam Curry: Okay, all right, thanks. Now I can sound cool. I 1553 01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:24,800 can say, well, I was talking to the consulting editor, formerly 1554 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,740 of info world, and he we're talking about the pick six is a 1555 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,540 pit. It's amazing. 1556 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're not going to make points with that, 1557 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,300 by the way, 1558 01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:35,960 Adam Curry: I'll make points to low level. Believe me. Make 1559 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,280 points with somebody. You 1560 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,440 John C Dvorak: want to talk about something else, flooding 1561 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:42,820 the zone is better. Okay. Anyway, 1562 01:28:43,540 --> 01:28:47,440 Adam Curry: yeah, 17 years we've been running this show. Not bad. 1563 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:50,140 And by the way, just to thank the trolls for being in the 1564 01:28:50,140 --> 01:28:54,280 troll room, troll room.io, thank you also to Mr. Darren O'Neill, 1565 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,060 who, for the past four or five years has been doing more longer 1566 01:28:58,060 --> 01:29:00,340 than that, imagine, longer than that, has been doing the wrong 1567 01:29:00,340 --> 01:29:04,080 decade. Almost. I don't know about that. I think so. No, I 1568 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,440 John C Dvorak: don't think he's been doing the decade. You can 1569 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,120 tell us, but it's a lot. Yeah, he's 1570 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,160 Adam Curry: been doing, let me see, did he just post here? Let 1571 01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:16,740 me see if he told us what it is. No, he has been doing the Rock 1572 01:29:16,740 --> 01:29:20,360 and Roll pre show, which is two hours before the show on 1573 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,260 Thursday and Sunday, and it's been a great help. And a lot of 1574 01:29:24,260 --> 01:29:29,480 people, I mean, it would take days to thank everybody who has 1575 01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:34,160 done something for no agenda. And I'll even add a lot of the 1576 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,880 modern podcast app developers who have made it we've been 1577 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,840 doing this show live like, oh, we can add this live stuff into 1578 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,300 these podcast apps. And oh, well, make sure you get 1579 01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:46,960 notified, and we'll make sure that you know you can't get de 1580 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,440 platformed, and even when you publish within 90 seconds. Oh, 1581 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,220 the modern podcast app show you that the podcast is there. But 1582 01:29:54,220 --> 01:29:59,800 we have many websites, including our own no agenda show.net, the 1583 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:04,020 No. Agenda meetups.com. The no agenda Art Generator we have so 1584 01:30:04,020 --> 01:30:07,200 like, no agenda fun, the tip of the day.net. I mean, could just 1585 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,020 go on and on and on. And the boots on the ground and the 1586 01:30:10,020 --> 01:30:14,460 people who um supplies with end of show mixes. I had so many end 1587 01:30:14,460 --> 01:30:18,540 of show mixes, I had to make a choice. There's at least double 1588 01:30:18,540 --> 01:30:21,860 the amount. Everyone's always sending them in for today's 1589 01:30:21,860 --> 01:30:26,900 show, but we'll get to them, of course. And you know, even Chris 1590 01:30:26,900 --> 01:30:31,640 Wilson popped up and he said, he said, hi and congratulations. 1591 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,820 It's just been, it's been so nice. It's really, really nice. 1592 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:40,120 Appreciate it so much. And our artists have been along for the 1593 01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:44,560 ride for a long time, even though it was in the standard it 1594 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,080 took apple up until, I think, two years ago, for them to 1595 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,860 finally say, oh, you know, we can put episode art in and not 1596 01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:54,460 just be the same image over and over again while we've been 1597 01:30:54,460 --> 01:31:01,200 using fresh arts for what do you Say? 15 years? Yeah, at least 1598 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,600 15, well, 15 years, probably. And 1599 01:31:04,140 --> 01:31:06,120 John C Dvorak: that three dates the Art Generator, there was a 1600 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,160 previous Art Generator, yes. 1601 01:31:08,220 --> 01:31:10,080 Adam Curry: And then the Art Generator came around, came 1602 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:15,120 along, and then it got switched to headless Drupal. And that was 1603 01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:20,720 tough. It was tough times. What headless Drupal? And I don't 1604 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,180 know what it's on now, but we've gone through a couple of 1605 01:31:23,180 --> 01:31:26,780 upgrades, and it's there. Thank you, Sir Paul couture, and so 1606 01:31:26,780 --> 01:31:30,140 we, as part of our our model, which is the value for value 1607 01:31:30,140 --> 01:31:32,960 model, which is a roller coaster ride, it took us quite a while 1608 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,680 to to stabilize, and it never really is. It's, you know, it's 1609 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,920 up, it's down, it's up, it's down. And for those of you 1610 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,580 playing along at home, if you want to do a value for value 1611 01:31:42,580 --> 01:31:48,460 podcast, emulate what we're doing, you know, and ask people 1612 01:31:48,460 --> 01:31:51,940 to support you and thank them when they support you. And send 1613 01:31:51,940 --> 01:31:55,540 a newsletter. I cannot stress how important that people don't 1614 01:31:55,540 --> 01:32:00,660 do that. They just don't do it. John and it is so important to 1615 01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:03,960 send a newsletter the day before people have busy lives. And 1616 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,320 another thing, if you're doing a podcast, try to release it 1617 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:12,060 around the same time on the same day consistently. People, if it 1618 01:32:12,060 --> 01:32:15,360 doesn't show up, people will find another podcast, and you 1619 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,780 might lose them for good. It's these are simple tips 1620 01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:22,520 John C Dvorak: marketing. One 1621 01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:27,260 Adam Curry: marketing, oh, point nine. But people don't do it. 1622 01:32:27,260 --> 01:32:30,440 People like, oh, good writing newsletter, get chat GPT to do 1623 01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:34,880 it for you. What? Do something. So we want to thank Taunton 1624 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,480 Neil, a true Dutch master who is not a an AI prompt jockey. She 1625 01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:43,840 is someone who really does the work, and she's been doing it 1626 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,660 consistently for a long time. She brought us the artwork for 1627 01:32:46,660 --> 01:32:51,280 episode 1706 which we titled nerd and knucklehead. A lot of 1628 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,100 people had nerd and knucklehead art that they submitted, but we 1629 01:32:54,100 --> 01:33:00,040 like the que Mala, which is, I like this, this cartoon type 1630 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,000 format that she did with the what is it with the dots? What 1631 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,160 is that called? It's got to be some there's got to be some 1632 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:12,060 printing term for that cartoon dots. What? Well, you looking at 1633 01:33:12,060 --> 01:33:14,700 the art? Do you see it? It looks like a cartoon with dots. 1634 01:33:15,300 --> 01:33:17,220 John C Dvorak: I don't see the dots. Well, it's 1635 01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:20,100 Adam Curry: dots. It's like a cartoon that's made up of dots. 1636 01:33:21,660 --> 01:33:22,520 Unknown: Dots 1637 01:33:24,020 --> 01:33:26,540 John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. It's like, this got a screen over it. 1638 01:33:26,540 --> 01:33:29,000 Yeah? It's like, it's like, screened, 1639 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,460 Adam Curry: okay, isn't it? What's 1640 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,340 John C Dvorak: the dots? By the way, I'll say this, yeah, those 1641 01:33:34,340 --> 01:33:38,180 dots appear more dot like to you than they do to anyone else. 1642 01:33:39,020 --> 01:33:40,480 Very, very sudden. Well, 1643 01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:43,000 Adam Curry: I have it in big end. I I'm looking at the five 1644 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,620 512 by 512 image. 1645 01:33:44,620 --> 01:33:47,020 John C Dvorak: I'm looking at the 512 by 512 and the dots are 1646 01:33:47,020 --> 01:33:48,160 very hard to see because i 1647 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,020 Adam Curry: What is that artist name? Who always who? Very 1648 01:33:50,020 --> 01:33:57,460 famous artist who does these.no not, no, I 1649 01:33:57,460 --> 01:34:01,320 John C Dvorak: know who it is. Not Leroy Ross. And, no, I'm 1650 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,540 Adam Curry: not even close. It's, yeah, I'm 1651 01:34:03,540 --> 01:34:05,280 John C Dvorak: getting it Lichtenstein, LinkedIn, 1652 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:10,200 Adam Curry: Stein There you go. Nailed it. Lichtenstein. They 1653 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,540 John C Dvorak: get the other name, Roy. Roy. Lichtenstein, 1654 01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:14,820 Roy. Good old Roy. Thank 1655 01:34:14,820 --> 01:34:18,900 Adam Curry: you exactly. Yeah, it's newsprint, basically, and 1656 01:34:18,900 --> 01:34:21,860 we liked it. We liked it a lot, and we appreciate you. Tanta 1657 01:34:21,860 --> 01:34:25,040 Neal, who is up? Is she on the leaderboard? Let me see that the 1658 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,820 leaderboard is let me see Nick the rat still number one of all 1659 01:34:28,820 --> 01:34:30,680 time. Darren was on 1660 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,920 John C Dvorak: her because he just when he was doing them, he 1661 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,280 was just doing them and doing them and doing me. Never stop. 1662 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,740 She's number six on the leaderboard. She's actually 1663 01:34:39,740 --> 01:34:42,520 behind comic strip blogger, which is a shocker. 1664 01:34:44,860 --> 01:34:48,280 Adam Curry: It is 52 times her art has been chosen. Let's look 1665 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,820 at the rolling six month average. Scaramanga is at the 1666 01:34:51,820 --> 01:34:55,480 top. Dame Kenny been another Dutch Master is second place. 1667 01:34:55,480 --> 01:34:59,500 Let's look at the rolling annual. Tanta Neal is in fourth 1668 01:34:59,500 --> 01:35:05,160 place. Yes, and rolling 90 days. Uh, boy, she drops off there. 1669 01:35:05,220 --> 01:35:07,320 She was gone for a bit, I guess. But she's 1670 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,540 John C Dvorak: rolling six months. She's in third. Yeah, 1671 01:35:10,260 --> 01:35:10,680 yeah. 1672 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,140 Adam Curry: It's two Dutch masters that we got. Dame Kenny 1673 01:35:13,140 --> 01:35:16,920 been and, uh, tanta Neal, it's so good. Well, thank you very 1674 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,680 much, tanta Neal, but let's take a look at some of the other art 1675 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:20,720 that was submitted. 1676 01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:24,440 John C Dvorak: She's actually tied for a second. Oh, 1677 01:35:24,440 --> 01:35:30,020 Adam Curry: there you go. Let's see 1706. We had, uh, nerds, 1678 01:35:30,020 --> 01:35:33,380 knuckleheads, which, by the way, 1679 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,100 John C Dvorak: uh, well, first of all, let's just say this nest 1680 01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:41,380 works. Yes, this was not a great selection to choose from, and 1681 01:35:41,380 --> 01:35:41,680 nerds 1682 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,520 Adam Curry: and knuckleheads networks. You misspelled 1683 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:52,300 knuckleheads? Yes, so that was a problem. Yeah, that's 1684 01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:54,760 John C Dvorak: no good. That's no good. 1685 01:35:56,020 --> 01:35:59,800 Adam Curry: But now the lots of AI, of course, which is my eyes 1686 01:35:59,860 --> 01:36:05,880 just glaze over from this stuff. There's the kemala, there's a 1687 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,320 donkey screwing or the elephant screwing a donkey. I mean, come 1688 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:14,400 on, yeah, we're not doing those Trump with Hitler mustaches. I 1689 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,080 John C Dvorak: mean, Harley creative, 1690 01:36:16,380 --> 01:36:20,100 Adam Curry: not very It's like in, you know, the AI stuff. I 1691 01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:23,420 don't even mind it, but it's the, where's the creativity you, 1692 01:36:23,420 --> 01:36:27,200 of course, immediately your eyes were drawn to sex event today. 1693 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:32,300 Oh, Scara mango's got a sexy babe. You like that? I 1694 01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:34,640 John C Dvorak: wasn't promoting that one. I mean, I did like it, 1695 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:35,780 but I didn't push it. 1696 01:36:37,220 --> 01:36:39,740 Adam Curry: And, well, that was it, wasn't it that you hate, you 1697 01:36:39,740 --> 01:36:42,580 John C Dvorak: hate the women. So I didn't want to overdo it. 1698 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:43,360 Oh, okay, 1699 01:36:43,780 --> 01:36:46,720 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I forgot how much I hate women. Yeah, and 1700 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,740 dogs, and, and, well, no, that's that's been proven to be fake 1701 01:36:50,740 --> 01:36:51,760 news. Yes, 1702 01:36:51,820 --> 01:36:55,420 John C Dvorak: you're right. The dog thing was a although I still 1703 01:36:55,420 --> 01:36:59,500 question whether you like dogs. Before you got this, this latest 1704 01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:00,160 dog of yours, 1705 01:37:00,700 --> 01:37:03,240 Adam Curry: I had dogs in the past, you remember I had dogs. 1706 01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:08,100 Had dogs cats, yes, three dogs, yeah, three dogs and three cats. 1707 01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:10,380 At one point, for a long time, too, 1708 01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:13,740 John C Dvorak: three dogs and three cats. Yes, yes, yes, 1709 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:19,200 Adam Curry: all I had a kennel. Um, that's it. There wasn't. 1710 01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,740 There was a there was nothing else really worth mentioning. 1711 01:37:21,740 --> 01:37:25,340 But thank you very much. Tanta Neal comes through, saves the 1712 01:37:25,340 --> 01:37:28,880 day with their que Mala, which is great, and everybody loved 1713 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,240 it. A lot of people sent me notes. Oh, best art ever. It's 1714 01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,840 always best art ever. The best ever. It was best ever. Thank 1715 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:40,040 you so much, tanta Neal, we appreciate it. Now we move to 1716 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:44,560 the treasure portion of the 3t of value for value, time, talent 1717 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:49,720 and treasure, man was another conversation we have a like a 1718 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,900 social network for the developers at podcast index dot 1719 01:37:52,900 --> 01:37:58,240 social. And it's always the same thing. There's always some guy 1720 01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,320 that says, well, value for value. I mean, that's like if I 1721 01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,160 go to a coffee shop and I ask for a coffee, get a coffee, and 1722 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:09,540 they say five bucks. I got value for value? No, that's not how it 1723 01:38:09,540 --> 01:38:13,680 works. Oh, you're saying it's tips. No, no. Oh, it's busking. 1724 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:20,040 That's always my favorite busky. We're we're busking. No, we 1725 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:25,100 learned early on that we give you the show in all its glory, 1726 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:30,140 full on, all premium content all the way, nothing else but the 1727 01:38:30,140 --> 01:38:34,700 good stuff, nothing hidden, nothing held back. And then you 1728 01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:37,520 just decide what it's worth to you. And from time to time, or 1729 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,780 as often as you want, you send us something that represents 1730 01:38:40,780 --> 01:38:41,980 that is that another to Bucha, 1731 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,640 John C Dvorak: and it only works for ethereal products. It 1732 01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:51,400 doesn't work for cups of coffee, ethereal products, like public 1733 01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:55,480 broadcasting, for example, they they relied on it. Church 1734 01:38:55,480 --> 01:39:00,300 sermonizing, churches, services. It's like some people, they pass 1735 01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:03,240 the thing around, and you've What is this worth to you? And 1736 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,300 you put your money in an envelope, usually, so you don't 1737 01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:10,440 embarrass yourself, even though I think the you should make it 1738 01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:13,980 envelopes show the 100 bucks. I 1739 01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:18,060 Adam Curry: think these days they just pop a QR code, send us 1740 01:39:18,060 --> 01:39:24,140 a Venmo. No. So instead, we just ask you to send back whatever 1741 01:39:24,140 --> 01:39:26,960 value you get from the show and and this, of course, being a 1742 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:32,180 celebratory episode, we also, as is the final, the final 1743 01:39:32,180 --> 01:39:36,200 opportunity for the Commodore promotion, which is just a 1744 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,660 beautiful you will like this Commodore thing. 1745 01:39:39,620 --> 01:39:43,840 John C Dvorak: Yeah, anyone says, males in Ford. And we also 1746 01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,020 had a note today from an Australian saying, it turns out 1747 01:39:47,020 --> 01:39:51,160 that $333 is the Commodore donation in Australia. It turns 1748 01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:55,180 out to be 504 which I thought was cute. Somebody says, Where 1749 01:39:55,180 --> 01:39:58,600 can I get a Commodore ship? Yes, you could. And we're gonna get 1750 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,220 we extend it a week for. The Australians who you know that, 1751 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:03,780 or there's one person in particular, 1752 01:40:03,780 --> 01:40:06,780 Adam Curry: so the Australians can send 500 australian dollar 1753 01:40:06,780 --> 01:40:07,440 reduce, 1754 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,760 John C Dvorak: no, three through 33 Australian No, you're going 1755 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:16,020 the wrong. $500 reduce is $333 isn't that interesting. 1756 01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:19,260 Adam Curry: And because we appreciate them, because they 1757 01:40:19,260 --> 01:40:22,520 still use something called the dollar. We're honoring that 1758 01:40:22,820 --> 01:40:25,220 which is all with the Canadians, which you always do, yeah, with 1759 01:40:25,220 --> 01:40:28,340 the and then the New Zealand's have the dollar to or the we 1760 01:40:28,340 --> 01:40:29,300 don't hear from 1761 01:40:29,300 --> 01:40:30,380 John C Dvorak: the New Zealand's hate us. 1762 01:40:33,380 --> 01:40:38,540 Adam Curry: Just Cinder She's ruined it for us. No. So we like 1763 01:40:38,540 --> 01:40:42,880 to thank a number of people in a special segment, the ones who 1764 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,940 really stepped up and came in, we call them our executive and 1765 01:40:45,940 --> 01:40:48,280 Associate Executive producers. Why? Because they're doing 1766 01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:52,000 exactly what executive and Associate Executive producers 1767 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,420 do, which is they support the product. And so if you come in 1768 01:40:55,420 --> 01:40:58,840 $200 or above, you get an Associate Executive producer 1769 01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,520 credit. And that is a credit that is real. It is forever. It 1770 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:05,820 is you can use it forever and ever and ever, and it will vouch 1771 01:41:05,820 --> 01:41:10,020 for you. As long as we're live, we'll vouch for you. And you can 1772 01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:15,060 put on your resume. You can put in your LinkedIn business cards, 1773 01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:18,780 business Yep, exactly. Or imdb.com, if anyone you know, 1774 01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:21,860 when you say, Oh, I'm a is it what? You're an executive 1775 01:41:21,860 --> 01:41:26,660 producer? Yeah, I'm on imdb.com, Oh, that'll shut someone up real 1776 01:41:26,660 --> 01:41:32,840 quick. It's a good one. And it's kind of like editor at large, in 1777 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,120 a way, only it's the real deal. You 1778 01:41:35,180 --> 01:41:39,860 John C Dvorak: don't want to be fat. If you can be fat. It used 1779 01:41:39,860 --> 01:41:42,340 to be called editor is large. You 1780 01:41:42,340 --> 01:41:44,980 Adam Curry: can be changed it as fat or skinny as you want to 1781 01:41:44,980 --> 01:41:48,220 produce, to produce the no agenda show. So $300 above, 1782 01:41:48,220 --> 01:41:50,800 executive producer, and we read your note, and we're going to 1783 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:56,320 kick it off again, celebratory episode for 17 years. And right 1784 01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:04,440 off the bat, here we go hang out. Mike standby, 33 333. 33 1785 01:42:05,820 --> 01:42:10,320 rubbilizer out that is David Rosa from Clarkson, Michigan, 1786 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:17,160 comes in with the rubbleizer, donation, 333, 3.33. Thank you 1787 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:21,440 so much. And he says, John and Adam, it's my anniversary. No 1788 01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:23,900 wait, it's your anniversary. No wait, it's both our 1789 01:42:23,900 --> 01:42:27,020 anniversaries. That's correct. You're a producer. I'm looking 1790 01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:30,080 forward to celebrating four more anniversaries with the best 1791 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,660 podcast in the universe. Normally, I'd ask for no 1792 01:42:32,660 --> 01:42:35,720 jingles, no karma, but rubb lies, a jingle is obligatory, 1793 01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,860 and I just gave it to you. Thank you, David, that is fantastic. 1794 01:42:39,860 --> 01:42:42,220 Very generous. Thank you for blessing us with that 1795 01:42:43,540 --> 01:42:48,820 John C Dvorak: game, lady. But is this, get over get Logan. Get 1796 01:42:48,820 --> 01:42:54,460 over over it. Get over it. Hello, hello. I'm doing it now. 1797 01:42:54,460 --> 01:42:54,580 Yeah, 1798 01:42:54,580 --> 01:42:57,280 Adam Curry: you're not personal. No, I've contaminated you, and 1799 01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,320 I'm healed. I 1800 01:42:59,380 --> 01:43:02,160 John C Dvorak: will see, we'll see, because I keep saying it, 1801 01:43:03,060 --> 01:43:07,020 it's gonna come back. Monroe, Washington. I don't even know 1802 01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:10,440 where that is, but she came in with $1,500 and says, Dear pod 1803 01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:13,680 Father, please forgive me. It's been two years since my last 1804 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:17,100 donation, where I thank you for the successful baby making 1805 01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:20,480 karma. Johnson was powerful 1806 01:43:20,480 --> 01:43:22,580 Adam Curry: stuff. You can win football games. You can make 1807 01:43:22,580 --> 01:43:24,860 babies. It's all there. Name 1808 01:43:24,860 --> 01:43:29,600 John C Dvorak: the baby? John C Adam, no, that's what she says. 1809 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:38,240 Adam Curry: Show me a birth certificate. J, a, h, n, s, I, 1810 01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,980 E. John C Adam, you know what I'm gonna choose to believe it. 1811 01:43:42,340 --> 01:43:45,340 I believe there's a kid out there named John C Adam. I 1812 01:43:45,340 --> 01:43:45,640 believe 1813 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,480 John C Dvorak: born July 2023, and we're now expecting our 1814 01:43:49,480 --> 01:43:52,840 second human resource. I would like to share this Commodore 1815 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,900 ship with my husband. So there's two of them involved here. I 1816 01:43:55,900 --> 01:43:57,340 guess two Commodore ships. It helps 1817 01:43:57,340 --> 01:43:59,260 Adam Curry: when baby making process, and the 1818 01:43:59,260 --> 01:44:02,340 John C Dvorak: best and and best friend, sir hop Scott. So we 1819 01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:07,020 have three of the digital horde. Unfortunately, he is dead, a 1820 01:44:07,020 --> 01:44:12,720 deadbeat, mofax, mofax deadbeat, as a mofax deadbeat, and he is 1821 01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:18,540 an amazing father and husband. I would like, if I can make sense 1822 01:44:18,540 --> 01:44:21,620 of that what she just said, I would like the third portion to 1823 01:44:21,620 --> 01:44:26,180 go to sir. Billy Bones, oh. Billy Bones. Billy Bones, yeah. 1824 01:44:26,480 --> 01:44:30,620 Billy Bones, he cooks, he cleans. He's a minister of 1825 01:44:30,620 --> 01:44:35,600 fungi. He makes music. He's a podcast. He's a woodworker, and 1826 01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:40,600 he's single. Ladies, there we go. I'm saying he's good with 1827 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:44,200 two hands, and now he's a Commodore. I would appreciate 1828 01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:49,600 jobs karma, because my employer sucks. Thank you for your 1829 01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,180 courage. Love is lit, Dame lady, get over it. 1830 01:44:52,180 --> 01:44:57,280 Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma. 1831 01:44:59,740 --> 01:45:03,960 Adam Curry: You. Yes, a regular polymath, sir. Billy Bones is 1832 01:45:04,380 --> 01:45:10,320 Jennifer Hughes comes in with $1,030.26 and says, Congrats on 1833 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,260 17 years. I want to say thanks for your immediate 1834 01:45:13,260 --> 01:45:16,860 deconstruction. I'm a compounding pharmacist and a fan 1835 01:45:16,860 --> 01:45:21,320 of John's endorsement for the Clearly Filtered pitcher. All 1836 01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:25,220 right, and I'd like to be called Dame Jen, legal drug dealer of 1837 01:45:25,220 --> 01:45:29,840 the Cedar Valley. No jingles, no karma, no exit strategy. All 1838 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,380 right, Dame Jen, you'll be up on the podium later. Huh? Uh, 1839 01:45:34,580 --> 01:45:41,020 John C Dvorak: Tyler systems LLC in uh, Alaska, Alaska, $1,030.26 1840 01:45:43,180 --> 01:45:47,680 thanks partly to the wisdom sheet he writes, thanks partly 1841 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,200 to the wisdom and strength I have received from your show. I 1842 01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,680 can make a celebratory donation for my new company, Tyler 1843 01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:58,780 systems LLC of Alaska. I've worked on and off, first with 1844 01:45:58,780 --> 01:46:02,820 startups in the tech industry globally since I was 16. Wow. 1845 01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:07,320 I'm 32 now, twice as old, and I'm still working a full time 1846 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,020 job. Well, my new business gets off the ground. I'm starting 1847 01:46:10,380 --> 01:46:15,780 with offering AI powered workflow, automation services 1848 01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:19,620 and consulting, but aspire to grow the company into a 1849 01:46:19,620 --> 01:46:24,020 regional, Arctic AI and IT leader. I'm hoping we can build 1850 01:46:24,020 --> 01:46:29,780 a business based on trust and treating people well, instead of 1851 01:46:29,780 --> 01:46:33,800 spying on our customers and ripping them off the tech 1852 01:46:33,860 --> 01:46:37,760 industry norm. He puts in parentheses there, I humbly 1853 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:42,580 request to be named Sir Tyler in Alaska. I just need a name, as 1854 01:46:42,580 --> 01:46:47,260 there's plenty of land here in testing Dvorak's cold read 1855 01:46:47,260 --> 01:46:51,640 skills, I'm wondering if he'll read aloud. Tyler systems, they 1856 01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:56,320 do great work in real time. So I can quote a testimonial from the 1857 01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:01,380 famous podcaster and renowned tech journalist retired you'll 1858 01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:11,820 find that That quote on the new website coming soon. Meredith, 1859 01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:26,240 www, reach out to Tyler systems. Tyler Tyler systems.com in the 1860 01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:31,160 interim, with gratitude from one of your many motivated 1861 01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,320 millennials. Tyler and Alaska, all 1862 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,860 Adam Curry: right, we love the motivated millennials. I guess 1863 01:47:36,860 --> 01:47:42,220 these are $1,000 PayPals with fees added, 1864 01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,620 John C Dvorak: I'm guessing, yet that would be righteous 1865 01:47:44,620 --> 01:47:45,280 appreciated. 1866 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,460 Adam Curry: And Craig Allen did the same. 1030 and 26 Hello. 1867 01:47:48,460 --> 01:47:51,940 John Adam, this is a no brainer. For the past few weeks, I've 1868 01:47:51,940 --> 01:47:56,860 seen 33 everywhere. I knew I had to donate with this offering. I 1869 01:47:56,860 --> 01:47:59,560 wasn't going to hesitate. No jingles, just karma for the 1870 01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:03,300 knighthood. Knight me, sir, Craig Allen of Gila River. Thing 1871 01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:06,480 is Gila or Gila, let's say Gila Gila River. And that's, 1872 01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:09,420 John C Dvorak: I think it's Gila Gila, like Gila monster, 1873 01:48:09,480 --> 01:48:12,720 Adam Curry: Gila, sir, Craig Allen of Gila River, and he's in 1874 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:17,220 sakaton, Arizona. You got it, brother, 1875 01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,160 Unknown: you've got karma. Ryan 1876 01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:31,520 John C Dvorak: Jones and cambie, Indiana, 560, oh 656065, small 1877 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:36,440 sets of boobs. It's been a while since I last donated. I knew I 1878 01:48:36,440 --> 01:48:39,260 was time to give you back some value for the show. Several 1879 01:48:39,260 --> 01:48:44,140 signs in the several signs in the life lately, pointed me to 1880 01:48:44,140 --> 01:48:48,640 donate to no agenda, like the name of Vince McMahon giving 1881 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:53,080 facial expressions, like the meme, the meme, I'm sorry, the 1882 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,600 meme of Vince McMahon give. Okay, I don't know why that 1883 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,500 would be associative, but okay. First, it was buying some 1884 01:48:59,620 --> 01:49:02,760 gigawatt coffee from Eli, the coffee guy, by the way, and then 1885 01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,700 including some nice handwritten notes sprinkled with our 1886 01:49:05,700 --> 01:49:09,780 favorite no agenda phrases, don't forget to use ITM 20 at 1887 01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:15,120 checkout, or code bung Geno the second time, the second time 1888 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:18,240 life reminded me to donate was was sitting at a gate in an 1889 01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:21,980 airport a couple weeks ago watching a guy fist his bag of 1890 01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:26,720 nuts while he stood waiting for the boarding to begin. I know 1891 01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:30,440 John C doesn't like that jingle, so I won't request it, but if 1892 01:49:30,440 --> 01:49:35,600 it's played, always gets a laugh out of me. The third sign I knew 1893 01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,660 it was right time to donate was the Commodore donation. I'm 1894 01:49:38,660 --> 01:49:41,740 proud to accept the Commodore ranking and happy to help 1895 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:45,520 executive produce this fine episode of the no agenda show. I 1896 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:50,260 humbly request some you've got karma due to climate change to 1897 01:49:50,260 --> 01:49:53,020 assist me in life ahead, in the life ahead. Thank you for your 1898 01:49:53,020 --> 01:49:55,720 courage in four more years. Ryan Jones, 1899 01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:59,620 Unknown: okay, you've got karma. 1900 01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:02,400 Due to climate change. 1901 01:50:03,480 --> 01:50:08,940 Adam Curry: And Sir Tom is in St Paul Minneapolis, 555, dot 10, 1902 01:50:08,940 --> 01:50:12,840 555, dot 10. He says it's been longer than I care to admit, 1903 01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,960 since my last donation. So it's high time to make amends and up 1904 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,840 the ante. See people do this, and that's appreciated. You 1905 01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,400 could that's a completely valid way of supporting the show as 1906 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,980 the originator of the double nickels on the dime. Donation, 1907 01:50:24,980 --> 01:50:30,980 Way Back Episode 179 a hereby donate 5510 that's the double 1908 01:50:30,980 --> 01:50:34,340 nickels on the dime, and chip in an additional 500 for a 1909 01:50:34,340 --> 01:50:38,300 Commodore commission to be known as a triple nickels on the dime. 1910 01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:43,900 Donation. You've named it. You've claimed it good to go. I 1911 01:50:43,900 --> 01:50:47,860 would like to officially update my title to surveyor, Commodore 1912 01:50:47,860 --> 01:50:52,660 of the northern and northwestern lakes. A bit of trivia. This is 1913 01:50:52,660 --> 01:50:55,660 always good. The Great Lakes were generally referred to as 1914 01:50:55,660 --> 01:50:59,920 the northern and northwestern lakes on navigation charts up to 1915 01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:03,540 the early 1900s Well, this is something I did not know. 1916 01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,980 John C Dvorak: Wow, useless information for a jingle, please 1917 01:51:07,980 --> 01:51:10,860 Adam Curry: play trains, good planes, bad. Thanks all 1918 01:51:10,860 --> 01:51:12,300 Unknown: aboard trains, good 1919 01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:14,700 planes, bad. Thank you. 1920 01:51:16,740 --> 01:51:19,080 Adam Curry: Brother. Very nice. Greg 1921 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:25,580 John C Dvorak: Clifton in Morgan field, Kentucky, uh, 55 3342, 1922 01:51:27,020 --> 01:51:30,980 and he did send in a note, which I was jump over to, which is a 1923 01:51:30,980 --> 01:51:33,620 handwritten note. I don't have it. I've been running into 1924 01:51:33,620 --> 01:51:36,080 Adam Curry: the show for almost four years, and I have never 1925 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:39,560 missed an episode since spring of 2021 y'all are the best. 1926 01:51:39,860 --> 01:51:44,440 Congratulations on 17 years. I'm mailing this note and a paper 1927 01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:48,100 check to save those nasty fees. Like John, my father was a 1928 01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:52,540 Kentucky Colonel, so I could not pass up the opportunity to 1929 01:51:52,540 --> 01:51:55,840 become a commodore of the best podcast in the universe. This 1930 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,840 donation also qualifies me for knighthood. Please Knight me, 1931 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:05,100 Sir cliffy at the round table, a bottle of, what is this? Eagle 1932 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,480 row bourbon. Eagle. Can you read, you know, you can't read 1933 01:52:09,480 --> 01:52:09,660 it. 1934 01:52:09,660 --> 01:52:11,520 John C Dvorak: No, I have it right here. Let's see, where 1935 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,140 does he see the bourbon on here? You 1936 01:52:13,140 --> 01:52:14,940 Adam Curry: gotta tell me what it is, because I haven't put 1937 01:52:14,940 --> 01:52:16,500 that on the on the order list. That's 1938 01:52:16,860 --> 01:52:20,300 John C Dvorak: the round table. Like about Eagle rare. 1939 01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:23,360 Adam Curry: Oh Eagle, rare bourbon. Okay, yeah, and what 1940 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:24,320 else did he have there? 1941 01:52:24,740 --> 01:52:29,600 John C Dvorak: And a 902 filet cooked. Medium rare would be 1942 01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,400 much appreciated. A 902 1943 01:52:33,020 --> 01:52:36,920 Adam Curry: medium filet. 902 medium, medium rare. Medium 1944 01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:43,360 filet cooks. Okay, I got to put this through the kitchen. 1945 01:52:44,260 --> 01:52:47,320 John C Dvorak: Well, they're not very good at hitting the number 1946 01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,900 on the on the cooking. They're very good at it. What 1947 01:52:49,900 --> 01:52:51,580 Adam Curry: are you talking about? No, they're 1948 01:52:51,580 --> 01:52:52,120 John C Dvorak: not good. 1949 01:52:53,980 --> 01:52:56,560 Adam Curry: Okay. You want to finish this note, yeah. Jingles, 1950 01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,720 John C Dvorak: please play mac and cheese and boogity. Thank 1951 01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:04,680 you both for your courage and especially to Adam when sharing 1952 01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:10,140 you your faith, oh, and faith in Jesus Christ, what a platform 1953 01:53:10,140 --> 01:53:14,700 you have to show the god the good news. Share the good news, 1954 01:53:14,700 --> 01:53:20,040 yes, yeah, good news, not only on your show, but also places 1955 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:26,180 like Rogan Sure. Cheers to you both for four more years, and 1956 01:53:26,180 --> 01:53:31,880 may you never find an exit strategy. Yours truly, soon to 1957 01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:33,200 be sir cliffy, 1958 01:53:34,220 --> 01:53:36,320 Unknown: few slaves can get used to mac and cheese, 1959 01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:39,800 John C Dvorak: mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and 1960 01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,440 cheap chatter melted together, 1961 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,140 Unknown: mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. 1962 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:56,740 Adam Curry: And we go to Sir Roger with 533 dot 33 and he 1963 01:53:56,740 --> 01:54:00,280 says, Sir Roger of the borough of hats here, congrats on 17 1964 01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,660 years for my Commodore ship will just go with Commodore Roger. I 1965 01:54:03,660 --> 01:54:07,380 could also use an F cancer for my niece. Thank you for your 1966 01:54:07,380 --> 01:54:08,820 courage. In four more years, 1967 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:15,120 Unknown: you've got karma. 1968 01:54:16,860 --> 01:54:20,100 John C Dvorak: I should remind Roger and the others. Did you 1969 01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:22,760 have to go to go to no agenda rings.com, and fill out the form 1970 01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,000 for the Commodore certificate? So we sent it to the right place 1971 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:34,100 with the right name on it, right on Dame lazardi in La La harp, 1972 01:54:34,100 --> 01:54:41,080 Kansas, 517, 33 and this is a Switcheroo. Happy 17th 1973 01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:45,040 anniversary. This Commodore ship is being given to Matt the metal 1974 01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:51,100 Bender upon from his beautiful, smoking hot wife, if I do say so 1975 01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:55,720 myself, says Dame lazardi, you go for help him get halfway to 1976 01:54:55,720 --> 01:55:02,940 his knighthood. He is a fitting i. It is a fitting title, as he 1977 01:55:02,940 --> 01:55:07,740 loved his home in the new US Navy years ago. Oh, it's time in 1978 01:55:07,740 --> 01:55:11,700 the US. I can't, sorry, blurry vision, Please play the full. 1979 01:55:11,700 --> 01:55:16,980 Reverend Al respect, a role a long, long version and jobs. 1980 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:21,140 Goat, karma, thank you for your courage. Matt. Leroy, Dame 1981 01:55:21,140 --> 01:55:21,980 lazardi, 1982 01:55:26,300 --> 01:55:32,000 Unknown: he's getting lunch at triple A, the tortoise 1983 01:55:33,140 --> 01:55:36,380 Adam Curry: in the race. Kim Kardashian, 1984 01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:43,720 Unknown: sigonoy Weaver, E, s, p, i, C, T, they're all G, E, s, 1985 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:51,460 p, i, c t, there's no real conflict. Resist. We must resist 1986 01:55:51,460 --> 01:55:57,700 just a little bit. We must, just a little bit. We must, and we 1987 01:55:57,820 --> 01:56:00,180 will much about it that just let that 1988 01:56:03,180 --> 01:56:09,060 be committed jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 1989 01:56:11,700 --> 01:56:14,040 Adam Curry: Carmen, that well worth it. I haven't played the 1990 01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,480 long version in a while, Robert, 1991 01:56:15,540 --> 01:56:17,460 John C Dvorak: we will much be committed. 1992 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,280 Adam Curry: Robert kerback, kerbak kerback, essexville, 1993 01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:26,060 Michigan, $500 so we presume that's a Commodore ship. You'll 1994 01:56:26,060 --> 01:56:29,720 go to no agenda. Rings calm to enter all the information. No 1995 01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:35,720 notes. You get a double up karma. Karma. I'll grab the next 1996 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:41,380 one to make it easy on my my partner here, Ray Harris in 1997 01:56:41,380 --> 01:56:44,740 Holt, Michigan. A lot of Michiganders, $500 ITM Adam and 1998 01:56:44,740 --> 01:56:47,860 John, longtime listener of many years here, after being 1999 01:56:47,860 --> 01:56:51,760 endlessly reminded of my douche bag status by my smoking hot 2000 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:56,020 girlfriend, Lisa Dame Cicerone of cat land, it is time for me 2001 01:56:56,020 --> 01:56:58,360 to finally donate please. De douche 2002 01:56:59,620 --> 01:57:02,100 Unknown: you've been deduced I 2003 01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:04,200 Adam Curry: would like to be known as Commodore Harris. 2004 01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:07,620 Please play rubbish and chemtrails. Stand 2005 01:57:09,660 --> 01:57:11,100 Unknown: by 3333 2006 01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:15,840 33 rubbilizer out 2007 01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:25,340 John C Dvorak: by Anne Rand Dimitri, Hossein. Hossein 2008 01:57:25,340 --> 01:57:32,180 Hossein in Stahl, Hill style, hilly style. He Oh, it's some 2009 01:57:32,180 --> 01:57:33,980 Belgian is in Belgium stall, 2010 01:57:33,980 --> 01:57:37,100 Adam Curry: Hill style, Hill style. 2011 01:57:37,820 --> 01:57:41,920 John C Dvorak: 500 tired of being a douche bag. If you would 2012 01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:47,980 kindly deduce me, you've been deduced. We need more belgiums. 2013 01:57:47,980 --> 01:57:50,980 Listening to this show, no jingles, no karma. Love the show 2014 01:57:51,580 --> 01:57:57,040 for a Commodore ship title you can call me Commodores skeleton 2015 01:57:57,040 --> 01:58:01,500 skellen. Maybe Adam might get this. Get it, you get it? Adam, 2016 01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:06,900 kind regards to some sort of a pun or joke. Adam supposed to 2017 01:58:06,900 --> 01:58:07,320 get it. 2018 01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:13,200 Adam Curry: Scound getting it, I do not remember. No. Agenda 2019 01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:17,100 John C Dvorak: rings calm, yes, go there for sure to get your 2020 01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:19,080 give us the details. Anonymous 2021 01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,260 Adam Curry: comes in from Lakewood, Washington with 500 2022 01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,920 switcheroo. Please grant this commenter title to Sharky, the 2023 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:28,160 guy who hit me in the mouth around three years ago. And I 2024 01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:31,760 thank God for that. Thank you. He says You're welcome, 2025 01:58:34,820 --> 01:58:38,420 John C Dvorak: sir EA of the tax domain in Clarkston, Michigan, 2026 01:58:38,420 --> 01:58:43,600 and that's another one. Michigander, interest 500 2027 01:58:43,900 --> 01:58:48,100 Commodore, EA, sir EA, of the text domain, Baron PhD, oh, he's 2028 01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:49,900 Adam Curry: got all the titles, very nice. Got 2029 01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:50,980 John C Dvorak: it made. Aubin 2030 01:58:50,980 --> 01:58:54,820 Adam Curry: Q. Aubin Q in Anchorage Alaska, the and the 2031 01:58:54,820 --> 01:58:59,200 Alaskan Ian's are into $500 Hey, gents. Aubin Q from Anchorage 2032 01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:03,240 Alaska. Semi douche bag here, $20.18 monthly subscription 2033 01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:08,820 Since 2018 but listeners Since 2014 could not say no to such a 2034 01:59:08,820 --> 01:59:13,140 title as Commodore. So amazing. I would like to be Commodore Q 2035 01:59:13,140 --> 01:59:19,980 of D, L, more. Can I get an IPA? Well, that's you don't really 2036 01:59:19,980 --> 01:59:24,800 get Ah, screw it. 70th anniversary, I'm gonna order an 2037 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,920 IPA in a club Paris. Filet form, just a quick ants and some 2038 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,860 relationship and job karma. If you could four more years? Well, 2039 01:59:30,860 --> 01:59:34,520 we'll give you a very quick answer. Then, in that case, it's 2040 01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:36,920 our favorite ant jingle. What do you got? 2041 01:59:37,700 --> 01:59:38,300 Unknown: I got ants. I 2042 01:59:43,540 --> 01:59:44,140 I got hands 2043 01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:53,080 jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for jobs. 2044 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:03,900 John C Dvorak: Zachary, stock still. All in Odessa, Texas, 500 2045 02:00:04,500 --> 02:00:10,740 Commodore Zachary stock still, aka Baron Grease Monkey, that's 2046 02:00:10,740 --> 02:00:12,420 all he says, perfect. 2047 02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:17,640 Adam Curry: We've got Oh, sir. Patrick cobal, Hey, good to hear 2048 02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:22,040 from you, Sir Patrick, 500 happy 17th anniversary. Now Duke of 2049 02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:25,760 the South becomes the commodore of the South. I could use some 2050 02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:29,060 Trump's jobs, business karma, if you have any. Thank you both for 2051 02:00:29,060 --> 02:00:32,360 all you do and the team. All right. Thank you to the team. 2052 02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:35,120 That's beautiful man. Thank you so much. Jobs, jobs, 2053 02:00:38,540 --> 02:00:40,220 Unknown: you've got a karma. 2054 02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:44,560 John C Dvorak: Jim Turner, Louisville, Kentucky, 500 Hi. 2055 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:47,560 TM, gentlemen, happy 17th and the best podcast. Universe, I 2056 02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:50,020 could not, in good conscience, let this opportunity to become a 2057 02:00:50,020 --> 02:00:54,700 no agenda Commodore pass by. I was dubious. At first, as a born 2058 02:00:54,700 --> 02:00:59,200 and raised Kentuckian and a recently retired Army Colonel, I 2059 02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:02,640 was taken aback and disappointed to find that my state had 2060 02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:06,780 bestowed the honor of Kentucky Colonel on the mere transient 2061 02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:11,820 such as John, while I am left of flounder as a mere peasant. 2062 02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:16,140 Alas, I swallowed my pride and thought it appropriate to add 2063 02:01:16,140 --> 02:01:18,840 the title of Commodore and eventually hang the certificate 2064 02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:22,820 next time I know agenda PhD four more years. Do jingles, just 2065 02:01:22,820 --> 02:01:26,540 some jobs, karma. Jim Turner, Commodore, Sir James of the 2066 02:01:26,540 --> 02:01:31,160 Darby city. PhD, Louisville, Kentucky. PS, uh, oops, sorry, 2067 02:01:31,220 --> 02:01:31,700 Adam Curry: yes, 2068 02:01:31,940 --> 02:01:35,600 John C Dvorak: I was debunked when I was passed along John's 2069 02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:40,040 Tip of the Day. I was debunked when I passed on John's 2070 02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:45,040 typically regarding this gray goose at Costcos fancy vodka, I 2071 02:01:45,460 --> 02:01:49,660 was promptly provided with news article refuting John's 2072 02:01:49,660 --> 02:01:57,700 assertion, evidence to to rebuy. Okay, the thing is that gray 2073 02:01:57,700 --> 02:02:03,360 goose was produced in the that Costco vodkas is French, and 2074 02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:06,360 it's produced in the old gray goose factory using the gray 2075 02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:10,860 goose gear. And I think it was taken over by some other 2076 02:02:10,860 --> 02:02:14,940 company, but that's, it's gray goose. I mean, just have a 2077 02:02:14,940 --> 02:02:16,680 bottle of Italian. Smell good. Tell 2078 02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:18,840 Adam Curry: me that's not gray goose. Yes, 2079 02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:23,360 John C Dvorak: it's good stuff that. Okay, yeah, all right, 2080 02:02:23,660 --> 02:02:25,520 technically, maybe 2081 02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:31,460 Adam Curry: let's see we have anonymous Charlotte, North 2082 02:02:31,460 --> 02:02:35,000 Carolina, 500 please credit producership and Commodore ship 2083 02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:41,500 to George P Burdell. No agenda. Saves my sanity, no jingles, 2084 02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:43,000 just karma. Thanks. 2085 02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:47,740 Unknown: You've got karma and JJ, 2086 02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:52,960 John C Dvorak: K, Nathan, Nolan, Nederland, Texas, neither. 500 2087 02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:54,100 Adam Curry: Nederland, 2088 02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:55,960 John C Dvorak: is it Nederland? Nederland, 2089 02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:56,260 Adam Curry: yeah, 2090 02:02:58,060 --> 02:03:00,300 John C Dvorak: it you think it would have 2e then, don't 2091 02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:01,800 Adam Curry: you? No, I don't 2092 02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:05,460 John C Dvorak: we. Any normal person would think so we 2093 02:03:05,460 --> 02:03:09,180 Adam Curry: spell Bernie, B, O, E, R, N, E, I mean, come on. 2094 02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,340 We're crazy here. We're out of control. 2095 02:03:11,820 --> 02:03:15,660 John C Dvorak: We don't say Nederland, Texas at $500 all is 2096 02:03:15,660 --> 02:03:19,980 just simple. 70th anniversary commodore of Nederland, yes, 2097 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,180 Adam Curry: Keaton stone, Indianapolis, Indiana, 500 in 2098 02:03:23,180 --> 02:03:27,440 the morning. I am Gen Z, second year apprentice plumber welder 2099 02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:33,020 in Indiana. Clap for you. Gen Z, you're gonna, you're gonna be 2100 02:03:33,020 --> 02:03:36,740 the richest one on the blog. Probably, you can't go wrong. I 2101 02:03:36,740 --> 02:03:39,860 couldn't resist getting my Commodore title. I would be 2102 02:03:39,860 --> 02:03:43,120 known as commodore of the Indiana stones, and he would 2103 02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:48,520 like climate change. Oh, due to climate change, and they're 2104 02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:52,240 eating the dogs. So I'll play them in opposite order for you. 2105 02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:53,320 Thank you for your courage. They're 2106 02:03:53,380 --> 02:03:54,760 Unknown: eating the dogs due 2107 02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:56,020 to climate change. 2108 02:03:58,420 --> 02:04:01,680 John C Dvorak: It just remains funny. Patrick Brown's Boris, 2109 02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:06,900 they would say in Texas. Patrick brownie, Fairfax, Virginia. 2110 02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:11,160 Thank you for your courage. ITM requesting dude named Ben, if 2111 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:15,000 requests are even a thing for Commodore ships, thanks again. 2112 02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:15,240 Yes, 2113 02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:16,740 Adam Curry: you can be Commodore. Dude named Ben, 2114 02:04:16,740 --> 02:04:17,760 absolutely. Yeah, just 2115 02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,180 John C Dvorak: fill out the go to no agenda rings.com and, by 2116 02:04:20,180 --> 02:04:23,420 the way, people sending in donation notes. Make sure to put 2117 02:04:23,420 --> 02:04:26,660 donation in the subject line. Thank you. Andrew 2118 02:04:26,660 --> 02:04:29,780 Adam Curry: Perez, San Marcos, Texas, not far from here, 500 2119 02:04:30,140 --> 02:04:34,520 ITM gents, congrats on 17 years. I'll be a knight as well. Please 2120 02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:40,220 Knight me, sir. P rez, Commodore of FL 330 that's flight level 2121 02:04:40,220 --> 02:04:44,980 330 that's 33,000 feet as a retired Navy guy, this promotion 2122 02:04:44,980 --> 02:04:50,500 scratches me where I itch. JCD, he says, What is a shaggy dog 2123 02:04:50,500 --> 02:04:51,100 story? 2124 02:04:53,140 --> 02:04:55,480 John C Dvorak: The shaggy dog story, which was, if you ever 2125 02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:58,780 got to see the old PBS show that which is out of England. 2126 02:04:58,780 --> 02:05:01,500 Actually, it was called the tube. Ronnie's, one of the 2127 02:05:01,500 --> 02:05:04,740 Ronnies would do a shaggy dog story once during the show is 2128 02:05:04,740 --> 02:05:08,820 comedian. Shaggy dog story is and you and you always, there's 2129 02:05:08,820 --> 02:05:11,820 always some guy in the office. Get, get the can tell a shaggy 2130 02:05:11,820 --> 02:05:16,140 dog story. Shaggy dog story is a story that one is like, pretty 2131 02:05:16,140 --> 02:05:21,440 much the way Trump talks. We've it wanders off the topic and off 2132 02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:24,440 the topic and off the topic. And then it comes kind of back 2133 02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:28,580 around to what the point was. And then has a pun at the end, 2134 02:05:28,940 --> 02:05:33,620 like, hey, Roy, is that the cat that chewed your new shoes or 2135 02:05:33,620 --> 02:05:37,460 something like that, some really lame pun that's always a 2136 02:05:37,460 --> 02:05:41,320 groaner, and it takes about five to 10 minutes to tell. And a 2137 02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:44,920 good shaggy dog guy who can tell a good shaggy dog story kind of 2138 02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:47,560 keeps you it's funnier the telling of the joke is funnier 2139 02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:50,620 than than the punchline. That's the shaggy dog story. I had no 2140 02:05:50,620 --> 02:05:51,700 idea. You've heard them. 2141 02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:54,460 Adam Curry: I had no idea it originated with the Two Ronnies. 2142 02:05:55,060 --> 02:05:55,180 No, 2143 02:05:55,180 --> 02:05:56,920 John C Dvorak: it didn't originate. It's just that he was 2144 02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:58,480 one of the best at telling him, okay, 2145 02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,800 Adam Curry: no jingles, no karma. Four more years, he says, 2146 02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:11,460 John C Dvorak: four more years, sir. Cut board, that's funny 2147 02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:15,120 because it's spelled B, O, R, E, D, like sir. Cut board in 2148 02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:19,920 Terrence Park, Ohio, it's my birthday too. Love you guys, 2149 02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:21,980 sir. Cut board, $500 Jeremy 2150 02:06:21,980 --> 02:06:25,400 Adam Curry: fort in Jerome, Indiana, 500 podcast, startup 2151 02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:29,240 karma. Hey, hit me up. I'll give you some tips. I want to be 2152 02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:33,200 Commodore fort and the trio fleet. I have three daughters. 2153 02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:37,340 Blessings to you both. Jeremy fort, Jerome, Idaho, all right. 2154 02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:40,040 Podcast, startup karma for you. Here you go. You've got 2155 02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,340 podcasts, you've got karma, 2156 02:06:44,380 --> 02:06:46,720 John C Dvorak: uh, Dame me outison, oh 2157 02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:49,540 Adam Curry: yeah, Dame Yeah. She's a fan favorite, 2158 02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:53,680 John C Dvorak: a fan favorite. Now Elta Mont Springs, Florida. 2159 02:06:53,860 --> 02:06:59,920 She's a Floridian. And she says, Hello, boys. Uh, Dame me 2160 02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:02,640 outison, here asking for a Commodore tile. Yes, I will go 2161 02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:07,680 to no agenda rings.com, and Fauci instructions. Good for 2162 02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:11,220 Yeah, good. But I got a note from some one of our female 2163 02:07:11,220 --> 02:07:15,840 producers, yeah, women don't want these Commodore ships. It 2164 02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:17,400 was grouchy, really. 2165 02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,200 Adam Curry: And what did you say? Yes, 2166 02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:21,080 John C Dvorak: I didn't say anything. You 2167 02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:23,480 Adam Curry: didn't reply. Oh, you're not replied 2168 02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:25,280 John C Dvorak: about sons. It was a long note. I didn't reply 2169 02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:31,460 about that. I was getting very close to to Countess status. And 2170 02:07:31,460 --> 02:07:34,520 I would like to say thank you both for always being a source 2171 02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:37,460 of knowledge and smiles. I'm grateful for the show and the 2172 02:07:37,460 --> 02:07:42,100 community, the community. Hey, she writes, yes, connection 2173 02:07:42,100 --> 02:07:44,860 truly is protection. I shall meet some awesome people at the 2174 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:55,300 Oka. Oka, ok show okie at the Yeah, you two have inspired me 2175 02:07:55,300 --> 02:07:59,860 to start a value for value YouTube channel to share my love 2176 02:07:59,860 --> 02:08:04,620 of yoga. Oh, I'll be sure to send an update when I'm ready to 2177 02:08:04,620 --> 02:08:07,980 drop the channel. However, smash that. Pick it up. I 2178 02:08:07,980 --> 02:08:10,500 Adam Curry: button. Everybody, smash 2179 02:08:10,500 --> 02:08:16,020 John C Dvorak: it. However, I must air a tiny grievance. Comes 2180 02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:20,660 that I was a bit let down in July when I sent in a 2181 02:08:20,660 --> 02:08:26,900 handwritten card and check with bagels on it. Beagles mentioned 2182 02:08:26,900 --> 02:08:27,620 it. Beagles 2183 02:08:27,620 --> 02:08:28,820 Adam Curry: not bagels. Oh, 2184 02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:32,600 John C Dvorak: they said bagels. Talk about a sad puppy. Oh, I 2185 02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:36,080 picked them out especially for you too. I will look past it, 2186 02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:39,320 though, because you guys are fantastic. I'm sorry, love you 2187 02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:44,200 mean it, uh, John, it's on my bucket list to meet you one day. 2188 02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:47,440 So if you plan on any big meetups, please let the people 2189 02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:51,220 know there's gonna be one in Emeryville next month. Uh, but 2190 02:08:51,220 --> 02:08:56,080 it's long, way too far to drive month. Uh, you've got fans, 2191 02:08:56,140 --> 02:09:00,420 jingles, climate gate and the multi language ITM please and 2192 02:09:00,420 --> 02:09:05,820 on. Thank you. Thank the Swifties for Trump. So she says, 2193 02:09:05,820 --> 02:09:08,040 Thank you. And then Swifties for Trump, she's 2194 02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:09,180 Adam Curry: a swift she's a Swifty 2195 02:09:11,580 --> 02:09:14,100 Unknown: to the gate, to the gate, to the gate. I'm 2196 02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:29,300 Adam Curry: then we move to Sir il pop di si crismo aviero, 2197 02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:34,940 Portugal, that's right, Portugal. I think we have a meet 2198 02:09:34,940 --> 02:09:38,780 up report from Portugal coming up later on. Dear John Adam, 2199 02:09:38,780 --> 02:09:41,260 last Friday, I along with my Oh yes, I, along with my wife, 2200 02:09:41,260 --> 02:09:45,220 attended the Porto portal meet up. Porto portal meet up, get 2201 02:09:45,220 --> 02:09:49,600 up, where I met Sir artless chance and his lovely wife. 2202 02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:52,180 Beers and sausages were consumed, and we exchanged 2203 02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:55,420 numbers for reconnecting when needed this. That's the 2204 02:09:55,420 --> 02:09:58,540 connection is protection. It was fun to meet open minded people. 2205 02:09:58,540 --> 02:10:01,080 It was a small meetup, but at most. This excellent meet up. It 2206 02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:03,780 was Thank you, sir artless chance. We are looking forward 2207 02:10:03,780 --> 02:10:07,500 to the next event here in the Portugal, Spain region. Please 2208 02:10:07,500 --> 02:10:10,200 for my Commodore name, I would like to become Commodore sir il 2209 02:10:10,260 --> 02:10:14,160 Pope di si crismo. And this donation brings me to Baronet 2210 02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,340 level. And I would like to be known as Baronet sir il Pope di 2211 02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:21,200 si crismo. A heartfelt thank to both of you and to 17 more 2212 02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:27,080 years, dream on Sir ill Pope declesmo, a proud, no agenda, 2213 02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:30,920 Black Knight and allegedly a criminal of sort, yeah, because 2214 02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:34,580 he lives in Portugal. Jingles. I felt something warm on my leg 2215 02:10:34,820 --> 02:10:38,720 due to climate change and some karma. I just felt something hot 2216 02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:39,800 on my legs due 2217 02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:41,080 Unknown: to climate change, 2218 02:10:43,300 --> 02:10:45,100 you've got karma. 2219 02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:52,960 John C Dvorak: David West is in Marysville, Washington, 500 to 2220 02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:55,180 John and Adam. I've been listening somewhere around 2221 02:10:55,180 --> 02:10:58,060 somewhere since show 700 with clock boy. 2222 02:10:58,420 --> 02:11:01,560 Adam Curry: Remember clock boy? Whatever happened to clock boy, 2223 02:11:01,860 --> 02:11:02,760 they moved 2224 02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:04,500 John C Dvorak: their whole family left and went to the 2225 02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:06,960 Middle East, where they belong. Remember 2226 02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:11,880 Adam Curry: Obama was it was all in on. Clock boy, just because 2227 02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:15,720 of the color of his skin, they called him a terrorist. The dude 2228 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,480 was walking around with what looked like a bomb at school. 2229 02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:19,500 Yeah. 2230 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:24,440 John C Dvorak: Clock Boy, that's what began the my being kicked 2231 02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:26,300 off the Twitch show. 2232 02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:29,060 Adam Curry: Oh, that's right, because you, Oh, that's right, 2233 02:11:29,060 --> 02:11:32,720 that was the the catalyst you, you were a catalyst because you 2234 02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:33,620 were racist, 2235 02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:38,240 John C Dvorak: because I said this clock boy thing was a scam. 2236 02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:43,720 I was in the mouth by my good friend George Lindholm, aka sir 2237 02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:47,980 art Vandelay. I had to get a Commodore tile before time ran 2238 02:11:47,980 --> 02:11:50,200 out. Also brings me the knighthood accounting below. I'd 2239 02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:56,080 like to be known as Sir Joe McGillicuddy. I Love Lucy fans. 2240 02:11:56,140 --> 02:11:59,620 I recognize this. I appreciate buddy, which is being replayed 2241 02:11:59,620 --> 02:12:04,200 on me TV endlessly. I appreciate your pursuit of truth and 2242 02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:07,800 analyzing the news and Adam, I'm so happy you found salvation. 2243 02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,400 Jesus Christ, the ultimate source of source of truth. Amen, 2244 02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:14,340 John, I appreciate your skepticism. People should be 2245 02:12:14,340 --> 02:12:17,520 more skeptical, especially of anything coming from the 2246 02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:21,500 government or the media. Here's a plug for at least four more 2247 02:12:21,500 --> 02:12:25,400 years and no exit strategy. God bless you both. A hope that 2248 02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:31,040 doesn't offend you. John David West in Marysville, Washington, 2249 02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:35,600 Adam Curry: so offended. Shannon vest is in Tacoma, Washington, 2250 02:12:35,780 --> 02:12:38,960 ah, we're out of the Commodore ships. We're now at 343, 75, 2251 02:12:39,740 --> 02:12:43,780 incredible. I am finally donating. The Universe keeps 2252 02:12:43,780 --> 02:12:47,380 tossing three, three, threes in my path. So I figured it was a 2253 02:12:47,380 --> 02:12:50,920 sign. Yes, it always is. House selling in health. Karma, 2254 02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:54,580 silver. Play happy. 17th from Tacoma, Washington. Please play 2255 02:12:54,580 --> 02:12:57,700 No no, no, no. Adams family and whoop him with the Constitution. 2256 02:12:57,700 --> 02:12:58,480 Thank you. Okay, 2257 02:12:58,600 --> 02:12:59,500 Unknown: you know what 2258 02:13:01,420 --> 02:13:03,540 Adam Curry: class forget about this one. 2259 02:13:03,660 --> 02:13:08,040 Unknown: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what? Listen, 2260 02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:09,660 you're in my house 2261 02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:10,980 drinking 2262 02:13:10,980 --> 02:13:12,360 the booze. No, no, no, no, no, no, 2263 02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,900 no. Shame on you. Whipping. 2264 02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:24,440 Adam Curry: Another classic, yeah, 2265 02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:41,980 Unknown: yeah, 2266 02:13:44,140 --> 02:13:45,820 Adam Curry: Manning, forgot all 2267 02:13:45,820 --> 02:13:50,980 John C Dvorak: about him, Corona and Erica, Netherlands. Is it 2268 02:13:50,980 --> 02:13:52,120 pronounced Erica, 2269 02:13:52,540 --> 02:13:53,140 Adam Curry: Erica, 2270 02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:57,460 John C Dvorak: Erica, ITM gents, I'm quitting my commentary 2271 02:13:57,460 --> 02:14:01,320 because I'm done. I'm done, and I don't feel like it anymore. 2272 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:04,800 After more than 20 years, time for something else. Negotiations 2273 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:09,060 for the safe are on. For the sale are ongoing. I do not have 2274 02:14:09,060 --> 02:14:12,720 an exit strategy yet, so I have recently started working in a 2275 02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:17,640 factory as a process operator. The night shifts are the best 2276 02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:21,920 with no agenda, the universe in my earphones, but maybe the best 2277 02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:26,780 crypto in the universe is my exit strategy. Dome shot on the 2278 02:14:26,780 --> 02:14:33,260 go. Pulse chain launched on 911, 2024, unlock tokens by unlocking 2279 02:14:33,260 --> 02:14:41,080 minds on Dome shot I always.io is an introductory video by co 2280 02:14:41,080 --> 02:14:44,320 founder, Matt long the donation does not bring me to knighthood 2281 02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:50,560 yet, but it does bring me to new agenda, Commodore. Yeah, you 2282 02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:53,500 know, the Commodore ships a one shot donation. It's not a 2283 02:14:53,500 --> 02:15:00,180 cumulative one. So you may want to reconsider this. You. We 2284 02:15:00,180 --> 02:15:03,960 don't know those special things, like the PhDs and things aren't 2285 02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:06,720 something to me. You don't accumulate. You just buy 2286 02:15:08,820 --> 02:15:13,740 knighthoods. You can Yes, so you get a knighthood. I would like 2287 02:15:13,740 --> 02:15:16,080 to be appointed as the car camera the father lands. Keep 2288 02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:18,600 with the good work. I would like some karma for more years. 2289 02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:19,140 Greetings. 2290 02:15:19,380 --> 02:15:20,940 Adam Curry: Corona. Curana 2291 02:15:22,620 --> 02:15:25,040 John C Dvorak: Marte, Martin and Erica, 2292 02:15:25,820 --> 02:15:29,360 Adam Curry: Erica, Erica, and you're gonna share this from 2293 02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:29,720 Erica. 2294 02:15:30,500 --> 02:15:31,100 John C Dvorak: Shannon, 2295 02:15:31,280 --> 02:15:34,460 Adam Curry: Scott karma. I forgot to give Shannon the 2296 02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:41,560 karma. No oot Erica means from, not from. Sir hair, heel, White 2297 02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:45,160 Salmon, Washington 333, dot. 33 needs some jobs karma for my 2298 02:15:45,160 --> 02:15:49,060 interview this week. Last time I requested too late, but not 2299 02:15:49,060 --> 02:15:51,700 making the same mistake this time. Could also use some F 2300 02:15:51,700 --> 02:15:54,040 cancer karma from Sir hair, heels, 2301 02:15:58,540 --> 02:16:04,860 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for 2302 02:16:07,500 --> 02:16:12,540 John C Dvorak: jobs, Brian gardie and grand berry Texas, or 2303 02:16:12,540 --> 02:16:15,660 could be pronounced Greenberry or Berry 2304 02:16:15,660 --> 02:16:16,560 Unknown: grambury. 2305 02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:21,080 John C Dvorak: Granberry Texas came in with three and $33.33 2306 02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:25,100 got no no notes, so he gets double up karma, 2307 02:16:26,660 --> 02:16:27,440 Unknown: you've got 2308 02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:32,540 Adam Curry: karma. And then coming in from bensonville, 2309 02:16:32,540 --> 02:16:36,200 Illinois, and I'm happy, because today I am, in fact, drinking 2310 02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:40,480 gigawatt Coffee Roasters, 2311 02:16:40,480 --> 02:16:43,780 John C Dvorak: coffee. Yeah. Which specific one? The 2312 02:16:43,780 --> 02:16:47,080 Adam Curry: black bag. That's the special, the specialty 2313 02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:52,420 coffee from the black bag. This is the Honduras Dark Roast 2314 02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:56,500 that's I've had. That's quite good, very good. And he comes in 2315 02:16:56,500 --> 02:17:00,900 with 210, 27 gentlemen, congrats on 17 years of high caliber 2316 02:17:00,900 --> 02:17:05,520 media deconstruction. Keep up the good work. Jingles. He would 2317 02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:10,140 like an orange. Oh, hold on a second. Where's orange? No, I'm 2318 02:17:10,140 --> 02:17:15,240 sorry I missed your missed your orange. And then four more 2319 02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:19,980 years. Okay, four more years. We'll do it on the fly for you 2320 02:17:20,820 --> 02:17:24,320 and for producers who want excellent roasted coffee shipped 2321 02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:28,640 to your doorstep, visit gigawatt Coffee roasters.com. Use code 2322 02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:33,140 ITM 20 for 20% off your order stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee 2323 02:17:33,140 --> 02:17:33,500 guy, 2324 02:17:41,059 --> 02:17:45,759 John C Dvorak: Fletcher, Chris Fisher, in a ton of one to one 2325 02:17:45,819 --> 02:17:52,059 New York, $203.33 as a long time listener, I want to commend you 2326 02:17:52,059 --> 02:17:55,839 both for helping me hone my skills in studying media 2327 02:17:55,839 --> 02:17:58,959 deconstruction. I do want to point out that this show has 2328 02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:03,899 started to get off centered, and starting to lean little to that 2329 02:18:03,899 --> 02:18:07,199 point, I'm a center focused Democrat and embrace all sides 2330 02:18:07,199 --> 02:18:11,339 of the debate. I am a US Army vet and law enforcement 2331 02:18:11,339 --> 02:18:15,479 professional, professional. I want you to know the that there 2332 02:18:15,479 --> 02:18:19,139 are still good Democrats out there in local governments, and 2333 02:18:19,139 --> 02:18:23,059 I'm one of them. I'll keep my notes short, which already too 2334 02:18:23,059 --> 02:18:27,919 long, just like you read the coffee guy and the image makers 2335 02:18:27,919 --> 02:18:35,719 person's notes. My website is www dot Chris fisher.org, and 2336 02:18:35,719 --> 02:18:38,779 people can see that there is still a Democrat out there 2337 02:18:38,779 --> 02:18:43,599 working for the people. I focus on fixing sidewalks, fixing 2338 02:18:43,599 --> 02:18:46,479 elections and oh and so that doesn't say that fixing 2339 02:18:46,479 --> 02:18:51,159 sidewalks, amending local ordinances and keeping property 2340 02:18:51,159 --> 02:18:54,699 tax increases from going through the roof. You know, it's not 2341 02:18:54,699 --> 02:18:58,119 like a Democrat at all. All I ask is that you and everyone 2342 02:18:58,119 --> 02:19:04,019 else check out the www.chrisfisher.org. Uh, to see 2343 02:19:04,019 --> 02:19:06,539 that there are still center Democrats working for the 2344 02:19:06,539 --> 02:19:11,939 people. No karma, no jingles. Just okay, you can overdo it. 2345 02:19:11,939 --> 02:19:17,699 That's two one too many. My donation, 233 203 33 was sent 2346 02:19:17,699 --> 02:19:21,619 through stripe because just like you don't like act blue that I 2347 02:19:21,619 --> 02:19:26,239 use. I do not support PayPal. I had to add 333, to my $200 2348 02:19:26,779 --> 02:19:29,119 donation so I could get some air time. If I 2349 02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:32,900 Adam Curry: can just say we have nothing against Democrats in 2350 02:19:32,900 --> 02:19:36,080 general. You sound more like an old school Democrat to me. We 2351 02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:39,560 both have Democrats in our families, in our immediate 2352 02:19:39,560 --> 02:19:43,600 family, Democrat most of my life. So we just don't like nut 2353 02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:48,100 job Democrats or nut job Republicans for that matter. And 2354 02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:51,820 I'm sorry, Kamala Harris fits in the nut job Democrats in this 2355 02:19:51,820 --> 02:19:54,880 case. So that's why you feel we're leaning a little bit. 2356 02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:59,800 We're just trying to keep people sane in the insanity. Thank you 2357 02:19:59,800 --> 02:20:06,720 for. Your promotion, Alex, in Ottawa, Ontario, $200.33 Hi, 2358 02:20:06,720 --> 02:20:10,320 John Adam, I just got back from the Ottawa meetup. It was great 2359 02:20:10,320 --> 02:20:13,740 to meet this many like minded people in the heart of Soviet 2360 02:20:13,740 --> 02:20:21,080 kakistan. Please deduce. You've been deduced. And he would also 2361 02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:26,120 like a respect to m for organizing. Hope to see everyone 2362 02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:27,860 at the next one. Alex from Ottawa, 2363 02:20:32,180 --> 02:20:33,980 Unknown: E, s, p, i, C, T, 2364 02:20:35,300 --> 02:20:38,480 John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, there she is. Linda lupekin, she's in 2365 02:20:38,480 --> 02:20:41,560 Lakewood, Colorado, and surprisingly enough, request 2366 02:20:41,560 --> 02:20:44,380 jobs. Carmen says, Happy anniversary to the best podcast 2367 02:20:44,380 --> 02:20:47,500 in the universe. Love you mean it. And for the best resume in 2368 02:20:47,500 --> 02:20:51,460 the universe, work with Linda Lou Duchess of jobs, and writer 2369 02:20:51,460 --> 02:20:53,860 of resumes, shortens, jobs, 2370 02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:57,880 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2371 02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:04,320 Adam Curry: Karma and I need to insert a Associate Executive 2372 02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:08,520 Producer donation here from Rob Carty, who took us out to 2373 02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:11,940 dinner. It was semi embarrassing, but we're there at 2374 02:21:11,940 --> 02:21:14,520 the table. You know, there's eight people. He's like, Oh, 2375 02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:21,840 here. Hands an envelope. Thanks. He donated $200.33 and he has a 2376 02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:24,920 note. ITM Adam and John, please accept this check for $200.33 2377 02:21:26,420 --> 02:21:29,120 and with this donation, hand delivered to Adam on the show's 2378 02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:33,500 17th anniversary. Told you we celebrated, I officially crossed 2379 02:21:33,500 --> 02:21:36,920 the threshold into knighthood accounting attached as Exhibit 2380 02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:43,420 one. He's a lawyer, so he did attach exhibit one. May it 2381 02:21:43,420 --> 02:21:47,380 please the parents committee. Codon, I humbly ask to be united 2382 02:21:47,380 --> 02:21:50,920 sir. Rob dot lawyer, constitutional lawyer, yes, Rob 2383 02:21:50,920 --> 02:21:55,000 dot lawyer is indeed a URL Texas and California producers should 2384 02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:58,300 bookmark it, because you just never know when you'll need to 2385 02:21:58,300 --> 02:22:02,280 summon a dude in a suit. Seriously, put them on speed 2386 02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:06,240 dial for the accolade feast. I respectfully request Texas 2387 02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:09,720 brisket and beans, along with some brown Schweiger from my 2388 02:22:09,720 --> 02:22:16,140 smoking hot German wife, Maggie z is so high soon Also heads up 2389 02:22:16,140 --> 02:22:18,780 to all producers attending Monday's Minneapolis Meet Up. 2390 02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:21,800 Please welcome my little sister Katie Tierney and her husband, 2391 02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:25,160 Tom, these great Americans will be in attendance, offering heaps 2392 02:22:25,160 --> 02:22:29,000 of cheer and effervescence. I respectfully request the usual, 2393 02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:33,500 open up Adam curry jingle. Oh, that's right, I didn't get that 2394 02:22:33,500 --> 02:22:37,460 one either. Open up Adam curry jingle, yes, we got that one. 2395 02:22:37,460 --> 02:22:42,100 And what else does he want? And karma so that we may all form an 2396 02:22:42,100 --> 02:22:47,260 impenetrable cone of justice over Gitmo nation. Sincerely. 2397 02:22:47,380 --> 02:22:53,560 Rob Carty, no agendas, constitutional lawyer, Mr. Adam 2398 02:22:57,100 --> 02:22:58,780 Unknown: curry, you've got karma. That's 2399 02:22:58,780 --> 02:23:01,800 Adam Curry: right. When I hear that sound, believe me, I will 2400 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:03,180 be calling Rob. 2401 02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:06,540 John C Dvorak: Well now you can read the longest note of the 2402 02:23:06,540 --> 02:23:07,020 day. 2403 02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:09,720 Adam Curry: I just read a long note of the day. Do 2404 02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:11,520 John C Dvorak: you haven't read the long, long note? 2405 02:23:13,020 --> 02:23:17,040 Adam Curry: ANNIE breglia, Middleburg, New York, 200 I have 2406 02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:19,500 been listening and making sustaining donations when I 2407 02:23:19,500 --> 02:23:23,000 could Since 2017 I want to express my gratitude for the 2408 02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:26,540 work you do. There is nowhere else I can receive sustained and 2409 02:23:26,540 --> 02:23:29,360 balanced information regarding so much that I care deeply 2410 02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:33,020 about, most notably, trends that intentionally cause harm to 2411 02:23:33,020 --> 02:23:36,860 children, our health and the state of our nation. I learned a 2412 02:23:36,860 --> 02:23:40,160 great deal more in the bargain. Things about AI and helicopters 2413 02:23:40,340 --> 02:23:43,600 and I myself have changed. I've become patriotic. I have 2414 02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:46,600 overcome much of the programming of my youth. John, this is a 2415 02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:51,340 success note. I'm happy I get to read it and I get to laugh with 2416 02:23:51,340 --> 02:23:54,280 two allies through it all, assisting in the shrinkage of my 2417 02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:58,120 amygdala to celebrate all of this glory. Please play I got 2418 02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:02,760 ants. People love the ant song. I cannot imagine life without 2419 02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:05,280 you. I don't look forward to your exit strategy, but I know 2420 02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:07,980 that everything changes. You deserve the best version of 2421 02:24:07,980 --> 02:24:11,100 reality that you can create. To anyone who is listening and 2422 02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:15,900 benefiting, do the right thing. Donate gratitude and blessings 2423 02:24:15,900 --> 02:24:18,780 to you, both to your families and to all your listeners. From 2424 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:22,460 Annie breglia In Middleburg, New York. Thank you very much. 2425 02:24:22,460 --> 02:24:26,240 Annie, $200 and Associate Executive producership for you 2426 02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:29,120 in the credits today, I got ants. 2427 02:24:34,100 --> 02:24:34,880 Unknown: I got ants. 2428 02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:41,260 You've got karma. 2429 02:24:43,540 --> 02:24:46,060 Adam Curry: There you go. That wraps up our executive and 2430 02:24:46,060 --> 02:24:52,060 Associate Executive producers for Episode 1707 of the best 2431 02:24:52,060 --> 02:24:56,680 podcasts in the universe on our 17th anniversary. Do people get 2432 02:24:56,680 --> 02:25:00,720 as a special 17th anniversary producership? Right? I presume 2433 02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:01,200 that's what 2434 02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,740 John C Dvorak: we usually do. It is special, 17th special. So 2435 02:25:04,740 --> 02:25:05,340 it's 2436 02:25:05,340 --> 02:25:08,700 Adam Curry: not just, oh, I'm a producer. No, I actually produce 2437 02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:12,000 the special, the 17th anniversary special. We 2438 02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:14,340 appreciate you all so much. We appreciate everybody who 2439 02:25:14,340 --> 02:25:18,420 supports the show in any manner, time, talent or treasure. In 2440 02:25:18,420 --> 02:25:21,440 particular. Thank you to people who take the time to go and set 2441 02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:24,560 up a sustaining donation, which is any amount, any frequency you 2442 02:25:24,560 --> 02:25:28,280 set up yourself, you maintain it, and we'll be thanking people 2443 02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:31,520 $50 and above in just a little bit. We do have more show to go. 2444 02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:34,400 And once again, thank you to our executive and Associate 2445 02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:36,440 Executive producers for episode 1707, 2446 02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:42,160 Unknown: our formula is this, we go out, We hit people in 2447 02:25:59,740 --> 02:26:04,260 Adam Curry: the mouth, yeah, oh, well, since, since we just had 2448 02:26:04,260 --> 02:26:05,700 that note from 2449 02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:08,940 Unknown: Annie Annie 2450 02:26:10,740 --> 02:26:15,120 Adam Curry: Megyn Kelly was on Bill Maher. I saw that, and I 2451 02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,280 John C Dvorak: pulled she took him to the cleaners. 2452 02:26:17,820 --> 02:26:20,540 Adam Curry: Wow, that you can say that, especially regarding 2453 02:26:20,540 --> 02:26:25,040 the trans Maoism, and I thought it was clip worthy, and would 2454 02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:27,380 like to share it with y'all. Almost equally 2455 02:26:27,380 --> 02:26:30,260 Unknown: important, maybe, maybe as important is the what we're 2456 02:26:30,260 --> 02:26:33,200 doing to our children with this trans insanity. And this is 2457 02:26:33,260 --> 02:26:37,580 almost my single issue. We are chopping off the healthy body 2458 02:26:37,580 --> 02:26:42,520 parts of young children without 100% we are doing that. We are 2459 02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:43,060 definitely 2460 02:26:43,060 --> 02:26:47,380 doing without any Inquisition. What it is I 2461 02:26:47,380 --> 02:26:49,960 don't either pay attention. I'm about to give you a truth bomb. 2462 02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:52,660 Kids who are suffering from bullying or who have been 2463 02:26:52,660 --> 02:26:55,900 sexually assaulted or who are going through normal puberty and 2464 02:26:55,900 --> 02:26:58,120 feel uncomfortable in their bodies will say to their 2465 02:26:58,120 --> 02:27:00,960 parents, I'm not sure maybe I'm gender confused, they will send 2466 02:27:00,960 --> 02:27:04,200 them into a psychiatrist or psychologist, who are told by 2467 02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:07,440 our organizations, the American psychiatry Association, all the 2468 02:27:07,440 --> 02:27:11,760 others that run their licensing, you must affirm. Affirm is the 2469 02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:14,700 only standard. And so the child gets told you're right, you are 2470 02:27:14,700 --> 02:27:18,120 secretly a boy or vice versa, and the child gets put on 2471 02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:21,440 puberty blockers, into cross sex hormones, which sterilize a 2472 02:27:21,440 --> 02:27:24,800 child and deprive the child of any chance of sexual pleasure 2473 02:27:24,860 --> 02:27:28,700 for the rest of his or her life. We're talking about 910, 11 year 2474 02:27:28,700 --> 02:27:32,060 olds who cannot give informed consent. Then they have body 2475 02:27:32,060 --> 02:27:35,900 parts chopped off by a medical establishment and by parents who 2476 02:27:35,900 --> 02:27:39,680 mean well, but believe in these doctors and they shouldn't, and 2477 02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:42,580 when they inevitably get past the awkwardness of puberty or 2478 02:27:42,580 --> 02:27:45,340 what have you, and they want to turn around and de transition. 2479 02:27:45,760 --> 02:27:48,880 Those who love bomb them on Reddit saying, Come on in. The 2480 02:27:48,880 --> 02:27:52,480 water is fine. Abandon them. They are depressed. They have 2481 02:27:52,540 --> 02:27:56,800 changed their bodies forever in a way that is irreversible, and 2482 02:27:56,800 --> 02:28:01,020 we are all sitting back saying it's a remote issue, as Kamala 2483 02:28:01,020 --> 02:28:04,800 Harris said, it's not remote, it's the issue of our time, both 2484 02:28:04,980 --> 02:28:08,160 with respect to children and women's rights. And 2485 02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:12,660 Adam Curry: with this comes a shocking, shocking story that 2486 02:28:12,660 --> 02:28:17,220 the New York Times published earlier this week, headline US 2487 02:28:17,220 --> 02:28:22,340 study on puberty blockers goes unpublished because of politics. 2488 02:28:22,340 --> 02:28:26,780 Doctor says, the leader of the long running study Since 2015 2489 02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:29,960 said that the drugs did not improve mental health in 2490 02:28:29,960 --> 02:28:33,200 children with gender distress, and that the finding might be 2491 02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:38,300 weaponized by opponents of the care so she held back the 2492 02:28:38,300 --> 02:28:46,360 results of this study for almost a decade because, because, you 2493 02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:51,100 know, we were in a charged American political environment. 2494 02:28:51,100 --> 02:28:52,900 Dr Olson, Kennedy, 2495 02:28:54,580 --> 02:28:58,000 John C Dvorak: I'm just waiting for it. I don't have a clip, but 2496 02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:02,700 a couple days ago, on KTVU channel two shameful 10 O'Clock 2497 02:29:02,700 --> 02:29:07,140 News. It was a lawsuit going on, uh, kind of almost class action. 2498 02:29:07,140 --> 02:29:09,960 Was about five people trying to de transition. They're suing the 2499 02:29:09,960 --> 02:29:13,080 doctors. They're suing everybody, but their parents 2500 02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:16,020 will get sued too. When the legal establishment stuff like 2501 02:29:16,020 --> 02:29:20,420 this get out, their lawsuits are going to be flying. And these 2502 02:29:20,420 --> 02:29:22,400 people that think they're guided, they're ahead of the 2503 02:29:22,400 --> 02:29:26,060 game on this, are fooling themselves. This is going to be 2504 02:29:26,060 --> 02:29:29,420 one of the greatest Bonanzas. Is going to make asbestos look 2505 02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:34,400 like, you know, a picnic. Ah, is. They're going to be suing 2506 02:29:34,400 --> 02:29:36,800 left and right. And I think the parents are going to get caught 2507 02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:39,560 up in this. A lot of them are going to get sued by older but 2508 02:29:39,620 --> 02:29:43,540 kids, once they mature, and get a clue, it's this is a disaster 2509 02:29:43,540 --> 02:29:44,440 waiting to happen 2510 02:29:44,620 --> 02:29:48,040 Adam Curry: almost as big as the disaster that's taking place in 2511 02:29:48,040 --> 02:29:49,000 your backyard. 2512 02:29:49,060 --> 02:29:51,940 Unknown: A federal jury in San Francisco has awarded six former 2513 02:29:51,940 --> 02:29:55,480 Bart workers more than a million dollars each over Bart's 2514 02:29:55,480 --> 02:30:00,480 handling of its employee, COVID 19 vaccine mandate. This. Six 2515 02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:03,960 who objected to the mandate on religious grounds and were fired 2516 02:30:04,140 --> 02:30:08,340 sued Bart in 2022 for employment discrimination. This week, 2517 02:30:08,340 --> 02:30:12,060 jurors agreed their religious objections were legit and Bart 2518 02:30:12,060 --> 02:30:15,060 had failed to prove that accommodating the workers 2519 02:30:15,060 --> 02:30:18,780 religious beliefs would cause them undue hardship. They can't 2520 02:30:18,780 --> 02:30:22,460 just flippantly disregard people of faith and treat them like 2521 02:30:22,460 --> 02:30:25,700 second class citizens. We hope that BART has received that 2522 02:30:25,700 --> 02:30:28,880 message loud and clear. Fred Dacus is with the Pacific 2523 02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:32,780 Justice Institute, which represented the six workers. He 2524 02:30:32,780 --> 02:30:36,740 says the verdict puts employers on notice there are heavy prices 2525 02:30:36,740 --> 02:30:40,900 they're going to have to pay for their intolerance, bigotry and 2526 02:30:41,380 --> 02:30:46,660 apparent lack of sensitivity for people of faith wanting to be 2527 02:30:46,660 --> 02:30:50,320 reasonably accommodated to BART lawsuit is one of 1000s related 2528 02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:53,080 to COVID vaccine mandates working their way through the 2529 02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:56,680 legal system. Legal experts say many never make it to a jury 2530 02:30:56,680 --> 02:31:00,040 trial because litigants either can't prove they have sincere 2531 02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:03,480 religious objections, or because the company has made 2532 02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:04,920 accommodations the 2533 02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:08,220 context of COVID 19 what a lot of employers have done is offer 2534 02:31:08,460 --> 02:31:12,480 testing and masking as an alternative to vaccination. 2535 02:31:12,600 --> 02:31:16,920 UC law, San Francisco Professor dorit Rice says the law allowing 2536 02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:20,040 religious objections to workplace rules has been on the 2537 02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:21,260 books since 1964 2538 02:31:22,340 --> 02:31:25,220 I think the take home for employers is take the law 2539 02:31:25,220 --> 02:31:28,040 seriously. Have a process in place to assess religious 2540 02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:32,240 exemption and make a good face efforts where, probably where 2541 02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:35,660 you can to accommodate all of which is what the law says. 2542 02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:38,600 Adam Curry: Wow, that 2543 02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:41,860 John C Dvorak: is, yeah, this tip of the iceberg for this. And 2544 02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:45,880 Adam Curry: I believe during COVID, we even had templates and 2545 02:31:45,880 --> 02:31:50,920 forms in the show notes for religious exemption. So if you 2546 02:31:50,920 --> 02:31:53,920 make a million bucks, remember your no agenda show. Oh, 2547 02:31:55,420 --> 02:31:57,460 John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, the lawyer, the lawyers will 2548 02:31:57,460 --> 02:31:58,180 probably take 2549 02:31:58,180 --> 02:32:01,800 Adam Curry: half of it. I'm sure they can only take a third. Oh, 2550 02:32:01,800 --> 02:32:03,780 that's it. Don't take a third. Yeah, 2551 02:32:03,780 --> 02:32:07,200 John C Dvorak: they take a third. The this case, which is 2552 02:32:07,200 --> 02:32:10,080 good, this, this is the, just the tip of the iceberg. I think 2553 02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:13,920 it. I think they got $7 million for about a million a person, 2554 02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:18,240 almost. I think a little less, but, but it was a lot, but more. 2555 02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:20,660 And it's, of course, comes out of the, you know, the BART 2556 02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:24,500 general fund. Mean you have to pay the guys who promoted the 2557 02:32:24,500 --> 02:32:29,000 policy should be all fired. This is the real issue with me. They 2558 02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:33,860 come up with these policies that cost the system huge amounts of 2559 02:32:33,860 --> 02:32:38,120 money, and nobody, oh, well, whatever. It's just not my 2560 02:32:38,120 --> 02:32:42,460 money. I think this is a kind of a drawback, but okay, 2561 02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:48,880 Adam Curry: in the season of reveal category, you know that 2562 02:32:48,940 --> 02:32:53,260 I'm still following the Diddy Steen stuff, because we now have 2563 02:32:53,260 --> 02:32:53,500 that 2564 02:32:53,980 --> 02:32:57,100 John C Dvorak: what, which is going nowhere, as far as I can 2565 02:32:57,700 --> 02:33:00,300 Adam Curry: well, yeah, it's going nowhere, because this is 2566 02:33:00,300 --> 02:33:03,960 the true evil in in the world. Is what these people are all 2567 02:33:03,960 --> 02:33:08,400 wrapped up in, including the Abercrombie and Fitch CEO. And 2568 02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:13,440 we have, we have boots on the ground. Sir Viper. Sir Viper, 2569 02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:17,460 515, a couple of friends of mine used to occasionally fly for 2570 02:33:17,460 --> 02:33:24,860 Mike Jeffries. This is the now fallen and shameful sex pervert 2571 02:33:24,860 --> 02:33:30,260 Mike Jeffries, so he used to fly the private jet, they would have 2572 02:33:30,260 --> 02:33:34,640 to spray a particular Cologne in the cabin, brush the carpet and 2573 02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:39,740 headliner in a certain way, the quote, flight attendants had to 2574 02:33:39,740 --> 02:33:44,620 wear skinny jeans and flip flops. One pilot had to meet him 2575 02:33:44,620 --> 02:33:47,800 at the bottom of the stairs and follow him up, while the other 2576 02:33:47,800 --> 02:33:51,160 had to be walking in the cabin and meet him at a specific 2577 02:33:51,160 --> 02:33:56,200 location and say hi to him. One of my friends, a six foot six 2578 02:33:56,200 --> 02:34:00,100 lanky former Marine in the 60s at the time, was requested by 2579 02:34:00,100 --> 02:34:06,420 name to fly with him. These people are sick. This reminds 2580 02:34:06,420 --> 02:34:07,740 and they're demonic. 2581 02:34:08,340 --> 02:34:11,280 John C Dvorak: This reminds me of this story we got in. This 2582 02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:16,560 was at least a decade ago on the show about how al sharpton's 2583 02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:20,660 producer had to produce. It was a cup of tea or something, and 2584 02:34:20,660 --> 02:34:23,780 put it on his desk at a certain specific spot, and turn it a 2585 02:34:23,780 --> 02:34:28,280 certain way before he started his show, when he was when he 2586 02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:32,240 had the desk that he used to sit behind, this kind of thing. And 2587 02:34:32,300 --> 02:34:35,300 this is the diva kind of things. You've heard this about a lot of 2588 02:34:35,300 --> 02:34:37,940 Hollywood people, when they go to a hotel, they, when they 2589 02:34:37,940 --> 02:34:39,920 check in, they have to have a certain kind of flower and a 2590 02:34:39,920 --> 02:34:42,200 certain kind of this. And the that this has to be over here, 2591 02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:45,280 and this has to be has to be over there. What is wrong with 2592 02:34:45,280 --> 02:34:46,120 these people? 2593 02:34:46,300 --> 02:34:49,060 Adam Curry: They're bored. They're bored by the amount of 2594 02:34:49,060 --> 02:34:52,720 money they have and success, and then they get, they get scooped 2595 02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:58,660 up by Satan and the word on the street. Now, yes, 2596 02:34:58,720 --> 02:35:02,100 John C Dvorak: you need a glass. Come on, a certain way. It's 2597 02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:04,500 Adam Curry: spiritual man. We're in spiritual problems here. 2598 02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:09,120 Jamie Foxx, the word on the street. Now, remember Jamie? 2599 02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:12,600 Jamie Foxx, just you know, he went into coma for 2600 02:35:12,660 --> 02:35:14,760 John C Dvorak: three weeks from the COVID shot. 2601 02:35:14,820 --> 02:35:18,900 Adam Curry: Well, the word on the street is that Diddy 2602 02:35:18,900 --> 02:35:26,480 poisoned him because he has video or pictures of some freak 2603 02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:31,940 offs, and did he tried to kill him, and then when he came out 2604 02:35:31,940 --> 02:35:36,680 of it, miraculously, he immediately called the FBI and 2605 02:35:36,680 --> 02:35:40,600 and that the FBI has the goods from Jamie Foxx. I'm just 2606 02:35:40,600 --> 02:35:44,320 telling you what's on the what's on the street, what's on the 2607 02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:47,980 street. So I don't know if that's true, but it's 2608 02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:51,220 interesting, because our constitutional lawyer, Rob he is 2609 02:35:51,220 --> 02:35:55,120 constantly sending me updates about this. It's fascinating the 2610 02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:58,480 way this, I mean, there's a lot of legal stuff going back and 2611 02:35:58,480 --> 02:36:03,120 forth. Did he's lawyers trying to get a gag order put on all 2612 02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:07,800 the media and everything now. I mean, it's, it's, it's not over. 2613 02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:12,120 It's not surprising that we don't hear much from the 2614 02:36:12,120 --> 02:36:15,840 mainstream media, from the M 5m about it, because you never know 2615 02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:16,860 who's wrapped up in it. 2616 02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:23,240 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, when I believe it, when I see it, 2617 02:36:23,420 --> 02:36:25,520 Adam Curry: I have an update on McDonald's, which was kind of 2618 02:36:25,520 --> 02:36:29,000 cool. Well, it's not really cool, you know, the McDonald's 2619 02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:32,600 now it's, oh, now there's, you know, 13 more states, and 2620 02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:34,880 everybody's getting sick from the quarter pounder. 2621 02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:38,360 John C Dvorak: Literally, yeah, well, 2622 02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:42,100 Adam Curry: so our producer says the Quarter Pounder has been 2623 02:36:42,100 --> 02:36:45,340 singled out, he believes, because he says it's the only 2624 02:36:45,340 --> 02:36:50,980 burger that is cooked fresh and not frozen. But is it just Trump 2625 02:36:50,980 --> 02:36:53,620 that they're getting into trouble for? Turns out, 2626 02:36:54,100 --> 02:37:01,020 McDonald's has been suing Tyson and Cargill and others for 2627 02:37:01,020 --> 02:37:06,120 artificially raising the price of beef. And these, I mean, 2628 02:37:06,120 --> 02:37:09,360 there's only three companies that do this, Tyson Cargill, and 2629 02:37:09,360 --> 02:37:14,460 what's the other one? I can't remember, who are in charge of 2630 02:37:14,460 --> 02:37:18,240 beef in America. And if you're going to be suing them for price 2631 02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:22,160 fixing, I can see whether you might get in some kind of 2632 02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:25,760 problem about your product. What was that? What was that? Was it 2633 02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:30,440 a TV series where, I can't remember what it was now, where 2634 02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:38,840 a competing, a competing way it was, ah, was a house of cards, 2635 02:37:40,640 --> 02:37:43,720 where there was some milkshake shop that was opening up, and 2636 02:37:43,780 --> 02:37:48,220 they were going to short the stock, and so they had people go 2637 02:37:48,220 --> 02:37:51,520 in buy one of these milkshakes, and then they they put poison in 2638 02:37:51,520 --> 02:37:54,580 it themselves. So they were puking violently at the open on 2639 02:37:54,580 --> 02:37:56,740 the opening day of the milkshake shop. I 2640 02:37:58,540 --> 02:38:00,720 John C Dvorak: don't remember that being in house cars, but 2641 02:38:00,720 --> 02:38:03,480 Adam Curry: JBC is the other one. Thank you. JBC is the other 2642 02:38:03,480 --> 02:38:06,660 meat guy. So there's something going on there that is bigger 2643 02:38:06,660 --> 02:38:09,900 than than what we're being told, billions. Thank you. Was on 2644 02:38:09,900 --> 02:38:14,460 billions. That was it. Thank you, karma King. So the you know 2645 02:38:14,460 --> 02:38:17,460 you gotta, you gotta figure, you gotta wonder about these things. 2646 02:38:18,060 --> 02:38:20,540 How do they know it was the onions? There's no evidence the 2647 02:38:20,540 --> 02:38:22,820 onion. People like, Yeah, we did. He's not onions. 2648 02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:28,280 John C Dvorak: Are you clear? No, I was. I have a pair of 2649 02:38:28,280 --> 02:38:32,300 glasses, and I was and they closed the the ears, things 2650 02:38:32,300 --> 02:38:35,180 closed, and they made and I tried to open them, but I was 2651 02:38:35,180 --> 02:38:38,540 doing with the one hand. So they kept closing and making a noise. 2652 02:38:38,540 --> 02:38:38,600 I 2653 02:38:38,600 --> 02:38:41,800 Adam Curry: mean, there was a an episode on this very podcast 2654 02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:44,260 where you were clipping your nails on the show, I can 2655 02:38:44,260 --> 02:38:47,080 John C Dvorak: No, that's what that was, an accusation that I 2656 02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:49,060 denied to this day. I was clicking a pin. 2657 02:38:50,980 --> 02:38:53,740 Adam Curry: Okay, my memory, I'm sorry. I could be wrong. 2658 02:38:56,500 --> 02:38:58,120 John C Dvorak: Well, let's, let's at least get these out of 2659 02:38:58,120 --> 02:39:00,720 the way so we can, because it's the phony baloney event of the 2660 02:39:00,720 --> 02:39:03,300 decade, which is the Iran, Israel thing. By 2661 02:39:03,300 --> 02:39:06,360 Adam Curry: the way, I think we called it. We said fireworks is 2662 02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:09,300 going to be nice, show in the sky. Nothing much is going to 2663 02:39:09,300 --> 02:39:11,220 happen. Is that not exactly what we said? 2664 02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:15,540 John C Dvorak: This is not only exactly, but exactly, exactly, 2665 02:39:15,540 --> 02:39:19,620 exactly what we said. Yes. So here's PBS doing the rundown. Of 2666 02:39:19,620 --> 02:39:22,340 course, they don't see any of this and they but everything 2667 02:39:22,340 --> 02:39:27,080 leads to this conclusion. So as a got a five parter here, it's 2668 02:39:27,080 --> 02:39:31,880 kind of interesting. Is Ira Iran run down one tonight. 2669 02:39:31,880 --> 02:39:35,180 Unknown: Iran is saying that it might not respond in kind to 2670 02:39:35,180 --> 02:39:38,960 Israel's first ever open attack on its soil. If there's a cease 2671 02:39:38,960 --> 02:39:43,060 fire in Gaza and Lebanon, more than 100 Israeli fighter jets 2672 02:39:43,060 --> 02:39:46,420 and unmanned drones struck Iranian military targets. Iran 2673 02:39:46,420 --> 02:39:50,020 state run news agency said four members of its military were 2674 02:39:50,020 --> 02:39:56,260 killed. The long anticipated retaliatory attack came early 2675 02:39:56,260 --> 02:40:00,780 Saturday morning the Israeli Defense Force. Said it struck 2676 02:40:00,780 --> 02:40:05,520 targets where missiles are built and stored. Their answer to 2677 02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:09,060 Iran's missile barrage is on Israel in April and earlier this 2678 02:40:09,060 --> 02:40:12,120 month, those followed the killings of Iranian and 2679 02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:18,000 Hezbollah leaders, which Iran blamed on Israel on state TV, 2680 02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:20,960 Iran's ruling regime played down the damage, although 2681 02:40:21,680 --> 02:40:24,380 the 2682 02:40:24,380 --> 02:40:27,680 country's integrated air defense system successfully tracked and 2683 02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:30,560 confronted the act of aggression, limited damage has 2684 02:40:30,560 --> 02:40:34,040 been caused to some places. The scope of the attack is being 2685 02:40:34,040 --> 02:40:35,000 investigated. 2686 02:40:38,240 --> 02:40:42,400 IDF spokesman Daniel hagari indicated Israeli retaliation 2687 02:40:42,400 --> 02:40:44,380 was done for now, 2688 02:40:47,080 --> 02:40:50,560 we are focused on the targets of the war in Gaza and Lebanon. 2689 02:40:50,560 --> 02:40:53,920 Iran is the one that continues to push for a wider regional 2690 02:40:53,920 --> 02:40:57,820 escalation. We will know how to choose additional targets and 2691 02:40:57,820 --> 02:40:59,500 attack them if necessary. 2692 02:40:59,980 --> 02:41:02,640 Adam Curry: I love that. They're just like, you know, Hey, man, 2693 02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:06,060 if you guys back off of Gaza and Lebanon, we're not gonna shoot 2694 02:41:06,060 --> 02:41:08,100 anything back. You know, more stuff that doesn't land 2695 02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:12,000 anywhere. This is very interesting development. 2696 02:41:12,720 --> 02:41:17,400 John C Dvorak: This is so fake, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to number 2697 02:41:17,400 --> 02:41:21,680 two. Pretty fake. Get close to the good stuff. International 2698 02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:22,940 Unknown: reaction was swift. 2699 02:41:24,080 --> 02:41:27,560 I wish a speedy recovery to our neighbor, Iran and the Iranian 2700 02:41:27,560 --> 02:41:30,800 government, which was the target of the Israeli aggression last 2701 02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:33,860 night, the Zionist Israeli government wants to light the 2702 02:41:33,860 --> 02:41:35,720 fuse on a regional conflict. 2703 02:41:37,340 --> 02:41:42,580 I am clear that Israel has the right to defend itself against 2704 02:41:42,580 --> 02:41:47,380 Iranian aggression, I am equally clear that we need to avoid 2705 02:41:47,440 --> 02:41:52,660 further regional escalation and urge all sides to show 2706 02:41:52,660 --> 02:41:57,220 restraint. Iran should not respond 2707 02:41:58,900 --> 02:42:02,220 this afternoon before flying to Pittsburgh for a campaign event. 2708 02:42:02,280 --> 02:42:04,500 President Biden echoed that call. 2709 02:42:04,920 --> 02:42:07,320 It looks like they didn't hit anything on the military 2710 02:42:07,320 --> 02:42:10,260 targets. My hope is this, in the end, a 2711 02:42:10,260 --> 02:42:13,740 senior administration official said efforts will soon resume to 2712 02:42:13,800 --> 02:42:17,400 end the fighting in Lebanon, secure a cease fire in Gaza, and 2713 02:42:17,400 --> 02:42:20,460 the return of Israeli hostages still held in Gaza. 2714 02:42:20,880 --> 02:42:22,940 Adam Curry: If I can just say something about Biden in that 2715 02:42:22,940 --> 02:42:29,720 clip, did you see Biden running towards the press corps? No, 2716 02:42:30,440 --> 02:42:31,820 daddy, long legs. 2717 02:42:32,180 --> 02:42:34,940 John C Dvorak: Oh, the other Biden, yes, and I didn't see it, 2718 02:42:34,940 --> 02:42:35,120 though. 2719 02:42:35,180 --> 02:42:39,920 Adam Curry: Okay, the tell is the fake not Joe Biden, whose 2720 02:42:39,920 --> 02:42:44,380 legs are at least five inches longer than the Joe Biden, who 2721 02:42:44,380 --> 02:42:48,520 we don't know where he is, always wears the Ray Bans he 2722 02:42:48,520 --> 02:42:51,340 had. There's something with the eyes that is too much of a 2723 02:42:51,340 --> 02:42:53,980 giveaway, and he's always wearing the Ray Ban, 2724 02:42:53,980 --> 02:42:55,420 John C Dvorak: probably different colored eyes, 2725 02:42:55,540 --> 02:42:56,320 Adam Curry: possibly. 2726 02:42:56,380 --> 02:42:58,840 John C Dvorak: So just because I have seen photos close up, 2727 02:42:58,840 --> 02:43:02,640 photos of the different Bidens in one of them was got brown, 2728 02:43:02,640 --> 02:43:04,980 Adam Curry: yeah? So, just so everybody's aware, keep, keep 2729 02:43:04,980 --> 02:43:07,620 and look out for Daddy Long Legs with the Ray Bans, 2730 02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:12,060 John C Dvorak: yeah, that makes sense. So here we have somebody. 2731 02:43:12,060 --> 02:43:14,640 They bring somebody in from the Brookings Institute to do an 2732 02:43:14,640 --> 02:43:17,640 analysis for us, because we're dumb. Oh, that'll help. 2733 02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:20,540 Unknown: Suzanne Maloney is director of the Foreign Policy 2734 02:43:20,540 --> 02:43:23,360 Program at the Brookings Institution Suzanne. What do you 2735 02:43:23,360 --> 02:43:27,080 make of this offer from or overture from Iran that they'll 2736 02:43:27,140 --> 02:43:31,100 they'll not retaliate if there's a cease fire in Lebanon and 2737 02:43:31,100 --> 02:43:31,580 Gaza? 2738 02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:34,220 I think this is consistent with the rhetoric that we've heard 2739 02:43:34,220 --> 02:43:37,160 from Iran for some time. They've tried to posture that they're 2740 02:43:37,160 --> 02:43:41,200 actually defending the people of Gaza and the people of Lebanon 2741 02:43:41,200 --> 02:43:44,860 and that their hostile activity toward Israel will, in fact, 2742 02:43:44,860 --> 02:43:48,580 stop if there is a cease fire. I think it's also a face saving 2743 02:43:48,580 --> 02:43:51,460 gesture, because they're unlikely to respond to what was 2744 02:43:51,460 --> 02:43:54,640 a fairly complex and sophisticated attack by the 2745 02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:57,640 Israelis yesterday against Iran. Talk 2746 02:43:57,640 --> 02:44:00,780 a little more about last night. The attack last night, was 2747 02:44:00,780 --> 02:44:04,200 Israel able to accomplish its goals while at the same time 2748 02:44:04,740 --> 02:44:07,260 heeding the international calls for restraint? 2749 02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:10,860 Well, I think it was a sort of Goldilocks approach on the part 2750 02:44:10,860 --> 02:44:14,820 of the Israelis. It was big enough to impose some costs, and 2751 02:44:14,820 --> 02:44:18,900 I think to have some deterrent impact on Iran's calculus, but 2752 02:44:18,900 --> 02:44:22,760 it was not so big as to create inevitable pressures for 2753 02:44:22,760 --> 02:44:26,420 escalation and Iranian retaliation, which would put the 2754 02:44:26,420 --> 02:44:30,440 region in a much wider and much more dangerous war. That 2755 02:44:30,440 --> 02:44:33,440 obviously was the goal of the United States that had been 2756 02:44:33,440 --> 02:44:38,180 speaking with the Israeli counterparts about the nature of 2757 02:44:38,180 --> 02:44:40,960 the attack. There was a lot of discussion about whether nuclear 2758 02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:44,080 sites would be targeted, whether Iran's oil and gas 2759 02:44:44,080 --> 02:44:47,080 infrastructure might be targeted, but instead, they 2760 02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:50,860 chose to target drone and missile production facilities as 2761 02:44:50,860 --> 02:44:53,740 well as air defense and radar, and I think that that was a very 2762 02:44:53,740 --> 02:44:55,720 wise and appropriate choice. 2763 02:44:55,780 --> 02:45:00,900 Adam Curry: So we're back to the calculus. Duh. And, and this 2764 02:45:00,900 --> 02:45:04,440 really solidifies the whole Trump's gonna come in make one 2765 02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:12,240 phone call Abraham accords to back to China. This is ending, 2766 02:45:13,980 --> 02:45:16,080 John C Dvorak: yeah, but won't end till after the election next 2767 02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:17,160 Adam Curry: week. No, no, no. Uh, 2768 02:45:18,540 --> 02:45:20,780 John C Dvorak: should we go to just a couple more? Just this, 2769 02:45:21,020 --> 02:45:23,120 not necessarily short, but is four. 2770 02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:26,900 Unknown: Israel appears to have used the airspace of Jordan and 2771 02:45:26,900 --> 02:45:30,920 Iraq to get to the targets in Iran. What does that tell us 2772 02:45:30,920 --> 02:45:33,680 about Iran's standing among its Arab neighbors? Well, 2773 02:45:33,680 --> 02:45:36,380 the region's reaction has been quite interesting. As you noted, 2774 02:45:36,380 --> 02:45:40,900 two of Iran's neighboring states use permitted the Israelis to 2775 02:45:40,900 --> 02:45:45,160 use their airspace to undertake these attacks. It demonstrates 2776 02:45:45,160 --> 02:45:48,820 how vulnerable Iran is because of the alignment of many of the 2777 02:45:48,820 --> 02:45:52,300 rest countries in the rest of the region with Israel. But of 2778 02:45:52,300 --> 02:45:55,540 course, there are condemnations for many, many regional states 2779 02:45:55,540 --> 02:45:59,140 as well, including Saudi Arabia, which I think speaks to the fact 2780 02:45:59,140 --> 02:46:01,740 that no country in the region really wants to see this 2781 02:46:01,740 --> 02:46:04,140 situation escalate further than it has. 2782 02:46:04,680 --> 02:46:05,160 There's 2783 02:46:05,160 --> 02:46:08,700 been so for many years, Israel and Iran, sort of fighting by 2784 02:46:08,700 --> 02:46:14,580 proxy, Iranian sponsored groups like Hamas Hezbollah and the 2785 02:46:14,580 --> 02:46:19,080 Houthis attacking Israel. Have we reached a new phase now where 2786 02:46:19,080 --> 02:46:22,580 these two countries, these two long time enemies are going to 2787 02:46:22,580 --> 02:46:24,200 be attacking each other directly? 2788 02:46:24,260 --> 02:46:27,380 Yes, I think that's exactly where we were. As you noted, for 2789 02:46:27,440 --> 02:46:30,440 about the past decade, there's been a gray zone war between 2790 02:46:30,440 --> 02:46:34,340 Iran and Israel, often involving proxies or war in third 2791 02:46:34,340 --> 02:46:37,880 countries such as Syria. What we've seen since April is a 2792 02:46:37,880 --> 02:46:40,840 willingness on the part of the Iranians to strike directly in 2793 02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:44,800 an attributable fashion, against Israel, and by Israel to respond 2794 02:46:44,800 --> 02:46:48,100 directly with attacks on Iran on the Iranian homeland. I think 2795 02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:51,640 this is in much more dangerous phase of the war, although the 2796 02:46:51,640 --> 02:46:56,980 actions of the past 24 hours may create some some pause on the 2797 02:46:56,980 --> 02:46:59,980 part of the Iranians to take the next step of escalation. 2798 02:47:01,840 --> 02:47:03,480 Adam Curry: How did you come up with that, 2799 02:47:03,900 --> 02:47:06,660 John C Dvorak: they say go along, to make it sound as 2800 02:47:06,660 --> 02:47:09,540 though it's actually something going on, besides a scam that 2801 02:47:09,540 --> 02:47:13,620 everybody sitting in a cafe in Turkey knows this is bull crap, 2802 02:47:13,620 --> 02:47:17,160 and so did half the good analysts out there. It was, this 2803 02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:18,120 is Theater. 2804 02:47:18,120 --> 02:47:19,500 Adam Curry: Where's our dude named Mohammed? 2805 02:47:19,620 --> 02:47:21,440 John C Dvorak: I would have expected he'll come. No, dude 2806 02:47:21,440 --> 02:47:22,880 are Do we have a lot of dudes name, 2807 02:47:22,880 --> 02:47:27,320 Adam Curry: but the dude, og Mohammed dude named, 2808 02:47:27,380 --> 02:47:29,420 John C Dvorak: he'll come in with some information. The guy's 2809 02:47:29,420 --> 02:47:31,760 good, yeah, he's very so this is the last one, but this is not 2810 02:47:31,760 --> 02:47:36,920 PBS. This is the same rundown, a short one from NPR. And there 2811 02:47:36,920 --> 02:47:39,320 may be a little discrepant information in here. 2812 02:47:39,380 --> 02:47:42,160 Unknown: I spoke about this with an official who is briefed on 2813 02:47:42,160 --> 02:47:45,040 the matter, an official who was not authorized to speak publicly 2814 02:47:45,040 --> 02:47:48,280 about this, but who told me that there were three waves of 2815 02:47:48,280 --> 02:47:51,880 Israeli strikes on Iran. The first wave of strikes was on 2816 02:47:51,880 --> 02:47:56,380 Iran's air defenses. The second and third waves were on storage 2817 02:47:56,440 --> 02:47:59,740 and production sites of ballistic missiles and drones. 2818 02:47:59,980 --> 02:48:03,480 This official said that Israel's response was designed as a kind 2819 02:48:03,480 --> 02:48:08,340 of a quid pro quo after Iran carried out its missile strikes 2820 02:48:08,340 --> 02:48:12,840 on Israel on october 1, and also designed in a way that Iran 2821 02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:17,400 would be able to contain any reaction. Israel says that its 2822 02:48:17,400 --> 02:48:21,860 retaliation against Iran is now over, and Iran indeed is 2823 02:48:21,860 --> 02:48:26,180 signaling that it's downplaying this. Iran state news agency 2824 02:48:26,180 --> 02:48:30,020 said Israeli airstrikes caused limited damage. It says civilian 2825 02:48:30,020 --> 02:48:33,560 flights are up and running again in the country. It also said two 2826 02:48:33,560 --> 02:48:35,180 of its soldiers were killed. 2827 02:48:36,140 --> 02:48:40,100 John C Dvorak: What all the reports from PBS said four 2828 02:48:40,100 --> 02:48:44,200 soldiers were killed, yeah, now this report says too, this is 2829 02:48:44,200 --> 02:48:45,520 bull crap. 2830 02:48:45,640 --> 02:48:50,320 Adam Curry: I you know, going back to the initial prediction 2831 02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:53,620 that we said this was theater and it would be fireworks in the 2832 02:48:53,620 --> 02:48:58,420 sky. And Calm down, everybody. We're not in world war three, I 2833 02:48:58,420 --> 02:49:00,780 would like to show you the difference between your no 2834 02:49:00,780 --> 02:49:05,400 agenda show and the culture war economy. And I hate to say it, 2835 02:49:05,400 --> 02:49:09,840 but Scott Ritter is the one who said this. The entire 2836 02:49:09,840 --> 02:49:12,720 Unknown: Israeli package was based upon the Iranian defenses 2837 02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:15,420 defined by s3 100 type capabilities. S3 100 is a 2838 02:49:15,420 --> 02:49:17,880 Russian service to air missile. The Russians just provided the 2839 02:49:17,880 --> 02:49:20,960 Iranians with a significant number of s4 100, together with 2840 02:49:20,960 --> 02:49:23,780 sophisticated electronic warfare package, is going to jam the 2841 02:49:23,780 --> 02:49:26,660 Israelis as they come in, backed up by su 35 fighters. Now, 2842 02:49:26,660 --> 02:49:28,760 here's the thing, how many Iranians been trained on the 2843 02:49:28,760 --> 02:49:31,160 operation of the s4 100? I'll give you a quick hit. None. 2844 02:49:31,220 --> 02:49:33,800 Who's operating the Yes, 400 on Iranian soil. I'll give you 2845 02:49:33,800 --> 02:49:36,320 another hint. The Russians, who's flying the s 35 not 2846 02:49:36,320 --> 02:49:39,200 Iranian pilots. Russians about Israel to attack Iran is gonna 2847 02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:41,500 have to go ahead with Russia. You think Israel wants to do 2848 02:49:41,500 --> 02:49:43,510 that? You think Israel is ready to do that? Do you think the 2849 02:49:43,510 --> 02:49:45,550 United States is willing to let them do that? Now, what is 2850 02:49:45,550 --> 02:49:47,650 Israel going to bomb? Are they going to bomb the nuclear site? 2851 02:49:47,650 --> 02:49:49,900 That's the end of Israel. Israel disappears that quick. You 2852 02:49:49,900 --> 02:49:52,420 understand the first Israeli bomb that drops on Iran. Over 2853 02:49:52,420 --> 02:49:55,300 500 missiles will immediately be fired. These are solid rocket 2854 02:49:55,300 --> 02:49:58,120 fuel missiles. You can immediately reload fire 500 more 2855 02:49:58,120 --> 02:50:01,560 within 15 minutes. That's 1000 Missiles impacting every 2856 02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:05,100 strategic site in Israel within 30 minutes of the first Israeli 2857 02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:07,680 bomb dropping, the Israeli airplane won't even be halfway 2858 02:50:07,680 --> 02:50:10,200 home before his entire country is destroyed. That's going 2859 02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:12,540 through the mind of Benjamin Netanyahu. You wonder why he 2860 02:50:12,540 --> 02:50:15,000 didn't order the attack. Because he can't order the attack. He's 2861 02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:19,920 got nothing to attack with. Iran holds all the cards. Okay. Wow. 2862 02:50:21,060 --> 02:50:22,880 John C Dvorak: Wow. Okay, Clip of the Day. Oh, 2863 02:50:24,200 --> 02:50:24,980 Unknown: even Wow. 2864 02:50:25,400 --> 02:50:28,220 Adam Curry: Despite the crappy audio, thank you. I appreciate 2865 02:50:28,520 --> 02:50:29,300 Unknown: that Clip of the Day. 2866 02:50:30,740 --> 02:50:33,740 John C Dvorak: This is classic. This. This Scott Ritter is one 2867 02:50:33,740 --> 02:50:37,700 of those guys. He's a plant. I mean, He's entertaining to 2868 02:50:37,700 --> 02:50:41,320 listen to, and he does make some interesting points on certain 2869 02:50:41,320 --> 02:50:44,980 specific shows he keeps showing up on. But that's the example 2870 02:50:44,980 --> 02:50:49,060 right there of the what we think is going on, which is backed up 2871 02:50:49,060 --> 02:50:53,260 by what's going on and what other people think what's going 2872 02:50:53,260 --> 02:50:58,600 on, which is some sort of, some sort of up there. This is psyop 2873 02:50:58,600 --> 02:51:00,280 to what he just said, yep, 2874 02:51:01,360 --> 02:51:05,460 Adam Curry: yep. And now you even have to question, is the 2875 02:51:05,460 --> 02:51:08,760 FBI showing up at his house? Is that part of the Psy op to make 2876 02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:12,120 him more legit? Yeah, you know. 2877 02:51:12,360 --> 02:51:14,880 John C Dvorak: But we always, we always believe in this, this 2878 02:51:14,880 --> 02:51:18,000 meta version of everything, where this, what you what looks 2879 02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:20,660 like, is happening, is really done for the purposes of drawing 2880 02:51:20,660 --> 02:51:23,480 attention and not really doing anything. Yeah, that has to be, 2881 02:51:23,780 --> 02:51:28,580 it's part of the whole thing. He made such a fuss about, how come 2882 02:51:28,580 --> 02:51:28,820 we 2883 02:51:28,820 --> 02:51:30,560 Adam Curry: never get any of these deals? 2884 02:51:33,680 --> 02:51:36,620 John C Dvorak: We don't know that we're not getting these 2885 02:51:36,620 --> 02:51:39,500 deals when people do a rubbish or donation, but 2886 02:51:39,560 --> 02:51:42,340 Adam Curry: they're not giving me any info for the for the deal 2887 02:51:42,340 --> 02:51:45,280 that just say, here's a rubbish they want our 2888 02:51:45,280 --> 02:51:47,800 John C Dvorak: info. No, they want the weird analysts, 2889 02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:50,980 Adam Curry: consultationists, 2890 02:51:51,460 --> 02:51:54,280 John C Dvorak: we're doing, our analysts, our analysis, and 2891 02:51:54,280 --> 02:51:58,180 they're listening today. Who are they? They're listening in the 2892 02:51:58,180 --> 02:52:03,420 they are listening in. And they're going, Oh, we got to do 2893 02:52:03,420 --> 02:52:08,100 a better job. But we haven't fooled him on this one. We get 2894 02:52:08,100 --> 02:52:08,580 fooled. 2895 02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:12,840 Adam Curry: Oh, let me play. I have 18 seconds. So Daddy Long 2896 02:52:12,840 --> 02:52:17,340 Legs, sees the press, runs up to the press. When's the last time 2897 02:52:17,340 --> 02:52:17,460 he 2898 02:52:17,460 --> 02:52:20,700 John C Dvorak: was, by the way, by the real bite never does. 2899 02:52:20,760 --> 02:52:24,140 Adam Curry: He shuffles. He can't. He'll fall over then, 2900 02:52:24,200 --> 02:52:28,880 then he hops up the big stairs on Air Force One, not the little 2901 02:52:28,880 --> 02:52:32,660 cargo bay pops up there, flies over. Oh, 2902 02:52:32,660 --> 02:52:34,580 John C Dvorak: that's the giveaway, right there. He hasn't 2903 02:52:34,580 --> 02:52:37,580 gone up those big stairs for a year or two, 2904 02:52:37,820 --> 02:52:40,100 Adam Curry: and this is to apologize for the Native 2905 02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:44,260 American boarding school. Fracas. Oh, please. What do you 2906 02:52:44,260 --> 02:52:45,400 know? What this is about? 2907 02:52:46,540 --> 02:52:49,720 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was the for the early years of our 2908 02:52:49,780 --> 02:52:55,360 country. From it, from the 1800s mostly took place when we were 2909 02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:58,240 moving the Indians all over the place. We insisted that they go 2910 02:52:58,240 --> 02:53:03,000 to American boarding schools for to be raised as Americans, and 2911 02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:06,240 so we basically kidnapped most of the Navajos and all these 2912 02:53:06,240 --> 02:53:11,160 various children of Indians. And instead of put letting them be 2913 02:53:11,160 --> 02:53:13,800 homeschooled in in in a teepee, 2914 02:53:14,520 --> 02:53:16,380 Adam Curry: they were casino 2915 02:53:18,120 --> 02:53:21,320 John C Dvorak: they they were pulled out. They're the guys, by 2916 02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:23,600 the way, these are the kids that are running the casinos now, 2917 02:53:23,660 --> 02:53:27,080 yeah, and there were trained. They were raised as white 2918 02:53:27,080 --> 02:53:30,320 people, and we have to apologize, because this was 2919 02:53:30,320 --> 02:53:34,820 unfair to these kids who should have been raised as Indians 2920 02:53:34,940 --> 02:53:36,560 mirror as Native Americans. So 2921 02:53:36,560 --> 02:53:39,380 Adam Curry: Daddy Long Legs shows up at wherever he was 2922 02:53:39,380 --> 02:53:42,940 after this little jaunt. And this running up to the press. It 2923 02:53:42,940 --> 02:53:47,140 was, it was unbelievable. Like, no, that's not you see, first of 2924 02:53:47,140 --> 02:53:50,560 all, you see his legs are visibly longer, and then he's 2925 02:53:50,980 --> 02:53:53,920 standing up there, and he's got the Ray Bans on. 150 2926 02:53:54,580 --> 02:53:59,560 Unknown: years, United States government eventually stopped 2927 02:53:59,560 --> 02:54:03,840 the program, but the federal government has never, never 2928 02:54:04,020 --> 02:54:09,960 formally apologized for what happened. Until today, I 2929 02:54:09,960 --> 02:54:11,700 formally apologized, 2930 02:54:12,660 --> 02:54:16,980 Adam Curry: not Joe Biden, not Joe Biden. Listen to that at the 2931 02:54:16,980 --> 02:54:17,580 end again. 2932 02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:22,220 Unknown: Until today, I formally apologize. Apologize and 2933 02:54:22,220 --> 02:54:24,860 Adam Curry: whoa, whoa. What are you easy there, daddy, long 2934 02:54:24,860 --> 02:54:25,460 legs. 2935 02:54:26,180 --> 02:54:28,340 John C Dvorak: What kind of an apologies? Yelling? 2936 02:54:28,700 --> 02:54:29,240 Adam Curry: Yeah. 2937 02:54:29,660 --> 02:54:33,980 John C Dvorak: How do you yell at an apology? Well, I'm gonna, 2938 02:54:33,980 --> 02:54:35,180 I'm gonna, I'm 2939 02:54:35,180 --> 02:54:37,580 Adam Curry: sorry, John, I'm sorry. I told you. It clipping 2940 02:54:37,580 --> 02:54:38,120 your nails. 2941 02:54:38,960 --> 02:54:41,140 John C Dvorak: It's see that would be that would sound like 2942 02:54:41,140 --> 02:54:44,800 you're just being sarcastic. Yeah. So this is this guy's no 2943 02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:50,680 good, no. Well, I have some Halloween clips if you want to 2944 02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:55,660 do those, or we can just skip what Halloween clips, the 2945 02:54:55,660 --> 02:54:57,760 disgusting body trade. You know, 2946 02:54:58,060 --> 02:55:01,860 Adam Curry: I have not listened to these clips. But I feel that 2947 02:55:01,860 --> 02:55:05,340 this is very out of character for you, because you will not 2948 02:55:05,340 --> 02:55:09,060 choose art because it's disgusting. Yet you feel it's 2949 02:55:09,060 --> 02:55:12,240 okay to show up with disgusting clips on the show. 2950 02:55:12,540 --> 02:55:15,000 John C Dvorak: I just use the word disgusting as a trigger. 2951 02:55:15,660 --> 02:55:16,080 Well, I'm 2952 02:55:16,080 --> 02:55:17,340 Adam Curry: triggered. What else? It's 2953 02:55:17,340 --> 02:55:20,420 John C Dvorak: not really disgusting in a true sense. It's 2954 02:55:20,420 --> 02:55:23,540 about collectors that, and I have to say this, as an 2955 02:55:23,540 --> 02:55:29,000 archivist, collectors who have gotten carried away and they've 2956 02:55:29,000 --> 02:55:32,600 and it's a couple, married couple that they found each 2957 02:55:32,600 --> 02:55:35,900 other. And this whole story, which is done, it was a, I 2958 02:55:35,900 --> 02:55:41,620 think, NPR, it's, it's one of those things that it's, you 2959 02:55:41,620 --> 02:55:45,400 know, the we ridicule NPR, but every once in a while, they do 2960 02:55:45,400 --> 02:55:49,000 something that is like spectacular. 2961 02:55:49,360 --> 02:55:52,840 Adam Curry: So you have 50 minutes of clips. Is that good? 2962 02:55:54,160 --> 02:55:57,640 John C Dvorak: I was 151, 5130 it's not that long. It 2963 02:55:57,640 --> 02:56:03,120 Adam Curry: is. I can count 456788, and a half minutes. 2964 02:56:05,700 --> 02:56:06,900 John C Dvorak: We run out of show. 2965 02:56:08,280 --> 02:56:10,800 Adam Curry: We can make as much show as you want. I can 2966 02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:13,320 John C Dvorak: also do these on the next show after Halloween is 2967 02:56:13,320 --> 02:56:17,220 over. It's a good story. This is a good series. It's maybe too 2968 02:56:17,220 --> 02:56:18,480 much do 2969 02:56:19,620 --> 02:56:21,320 Adam Curry: because, of course, I don't know what your clips 2970 02:56:21,320 --> 02:56:26,000 are, but what's the we've got new UK riots. We've got prison 2971 02:56:26,000 --> 02:56:29,000 John C Dvorak: films fest is a good story. Film Fest, the 2972 02:56:29,000 --> 02:56:31,520 prison Film Fest is an interesting story because, 2973 02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:34,040 again, it's California leading the way, even though you 2974 02:56:34,040 --> 02:56:36,320 wouldn't think so at the beginning of the story, but at 2975 02:56:36,320 --> 02:56:39,560 the end, they finally closed it out with, again, California 2976 02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:40,480 leads the way a 2977 02:56:40,540 --> 02:56:43,660 Unknown: maximum security prison north of New York City is 2978 02:56:43,660 --> 02:56:47,500 hosting a film festival this week as Samantha max of member 2979 02:56:47,500 --> 02:56:52,120 station WNYC reports all the movies are about the criminal 2980 02:56:52,120 --> 02:56:55,540 justice system. All the judges are incarcerated. 2981 02:56:55,600 --> 02:56:58,540 A group of men serving time at the Sing Sing Correctional 2982 02:56:58,540 --> 02:57:02,460 Facility evaluated five documentaries about policing, 2983 02:57:02,460 --> 02:57:06,480 prisons and the courts. A formerly incarcerated filmmaker 2984 02:57:06,540 --> 02:57:10,080 visited the man at Sing Sing and trained them on how to critique 2985 02:57:10,080 --> 02:57:14,040 movies. Dun works for the Marshall Project, which 2986 02:57:14,100 --> 02:57:18,360 organized the film festival. She says she hopes other prisons 2987 02:57:18,360 --> 02:57:20,240 will hold their own festivals in the 2988 02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:24,740 future, and we just pray that we can continue to do programs like 2989 02:57:24,740 --> 02:57:27,500 this to show that it can happen. To be honest, 2990 02:57:27,560 --> 02:57:31,100 the event is the first known film festival inside a prison in 2991 02:57:31,100 --> 02:57:34,880 New York, and just the second nationwide. The San Quentin 2992 02:57:34,880 --> 02:57:38,240 Rehabilitation Center in California held its own festival 2993 02:57:38,300 --> 02:57:39,320 earlier this month. 2994 02:57:41,000 --> 02:57:44,080 John C Dvorak: So we're training film critics in prison, which 2995 02:57:44,080 --> 02:57:45,760 makes sense to me. Well, they're 2996 02:57:45,760 --> 02:57:48,400 Adam Curry: voting they can do everything else they can get 2997 02:57:48,400 --> 02:57:52,600 they can transition. I mean, why not? I think it's perfect. 2998 02:57:52,660 --> 02:57:54,520 John C Dvorak: By the way, rotten tomatoes will never be 2999 02:57:54,520 --> 02:57:56,140 the same. Thursday 3000 02:57:56,200 --> 02:58:00,340 Adam Curry: is Halloween, so you can do your gruesome story 3001 02:58:00,880 --> 02:58:03,660 before the kids go trick or treating on Thursday. How does 3002 02:58:03,660 --> 02:58:06,000 that sound? That sounds that sounds fair to me. 3003 02:58:06,600 --> 02:58:08,640 John C Dvorak: That sounds fair to me too. So let's go with 3004 02:58:08,700 --> 02:58:09,600 disgusting. 3005 02:58:09,660 --> 02:58:12,660 Adam Curry: No, no, let's do we go V Oh, you 3006 02:58:12,660 --> 02:58:16,140 John C Dvorak: want to wow, yeah, that's a good, yeah, good. 3007 02:58:16,140 --> 02:58:18,480 You twisted beyond that one. Yeah, that was a good 3008 02:58:18,480 --> 02:58:21,380 switcheroo. I like it. I'm giving you. It was very, 3009 02:58:21,380 --> 02:58:24,500 Adam Curry: very slick switcheroo of the day, yeah, 3010 02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:25,340 okay, yes. 3011 02:58:25,340 --> 02:58:27,920 John C Dvorak: Well, this is a, I consider this to be a native 3012 02:58:27,920 --> 02:58:33,260 ad that was, again, PBS doing these, Yep, yeah, of course, PbS 3013 02:58:33,260 --> 02:58:36,320 is doing these native ads. And here we go with a big promotion 3014 02:58:36,320 --> 02:58:38,060 of like COVID physicians 3015 02:58:38,060 --> 02:58:40,960 Unknown: are increasingly using weight loss drugs to treat 3016 02:58:40,960 --> 02:58:44,020 obesity, diabetes and other chronic conditions in young 3017 02:58:44,020 --> 02:58:48,280 people, including children. In the last three years, the number 3018 02:58:48,280 --> 02:58:52,540 of people aged between 12 and 25 using drugs like we COVID And 3019 02:58:52,540 --> 02:58:57,880 ozempic has surged nearly 600% Ali Rogin looks at the high 3020 02:58:57,880 --> 02:59:01,080 demand for these drugs and the concerns surrounding them, 3021 02:59:01,140 --> 02:59:04,560 approximately one in five children and adolescents in the 3022 02:59:04,560 --> 02:59:08,700 US is obese, but experts say early intensive treatment can 3023 02:59:08,700 --> 02:59:11,820 prevent health issues down the line. Early last year, the 3024 02:59:11,820 --> 02:59:14,820 American Academy of Pediatrics recommended the use of 3025 02:59:14,820 --> 02:59:19,320 medication to treat obesity in children's ages 12 and up, we 3026 02:59:19,320 --> 02:59:21,200 spoke to two young women who have been using these 3027 02:59:21,200 --> 02:59:23,180 medications. I had been 3028 02:59:23,180 --> 02:59:26,420 struggling with my weight, and I had never gotten my period 3029 02:59:26,420 --> 02:59:30,560 before, and we weren't sure what was up with it, and I had taken 3030 02:59:30,560 --> 02:59:34,700 some labs, and we found out that I had PCOS. I think a lot of 3031 02:59:34,700 --> 02:59:38,180 people think, especially PCOS, that they're stuck and there 3032 02:59:38,180 --> 02:59:40,900 isn't options, and they're finding out that this is an 3033 02:59:40,900 --> 02:59:44,260 option, because it has helped me lose almost 90 pounds, and I got 3034 02:59:44,260 --> 02:59:47,860 my period, and it's helped with my confidence in so many other 3035 02:59:47,860 --> 02:59:52,420 things, and continuing it, I think, has just shown the 3036 02:59:52,420 --> 02:59:53,920 effectiveness of it as well. 3037 02:59:54,100 --> 02:59:57,040 Adam Curry: Okay. First observation. First PCOS is 3038 02:59:57,040 --> 03:00:03,240 polycystic ovary syndrome. I. Which is a hormonal during the 3039 03:00:03,240 --> 03:00:05,700 reproductive years, is when that takes place. But it's 3040 03:00:05,700 --> 03:00:09,000 interesting that they are only talking about these medicines as 3041 03:00:09,000 --> 03:00:12,180 we go v where there are many more, the most famous of which 3042 03:00:12,180 --> 03:00:14,160 would be ozempic. 3043 03:00:15,180 --> 03:00:17,280 John C Dvorak: So this is what I'm saying. This is an ad for 3044 03:00:17,280 --> 03:00:21,500 agovi. Yeah. Okay, and they get it good. This, by the way, this 3045 03:00:21,560 --> 03:00:26,360 three clips I have are, are part of about a 10 minute program of 3046 03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:28,160 these. How great it is, 3047 03:00:28,160 --> 03:00:31,160 Adam Curry: almost like I'm looking at PCOS, common 3048 03:00:31,160 --> 03:00:34,880 condition, common condition that affects your hormones. It causes 3049 03:00:34,880 --> 03:00:37,220 irregular menstrual periods, which is what she was 3050 03:00:37,220 --> 03:00:39,920 complaining of, excess hair growth, acne and infertility. 3051 03:00:40,220 --> 03:00:43,540 Treatment for PCOS depends on, if you wish to become pregnant, 3052 03:00:44,260 --> 03:00:47,140 people with PCOS may be at higher risk for certain health 3053 03:00:47,140 --> 03:00:53,440 conditions. So how do you get it? It actually, it actually 3054 03:00:53,440 --> 03:00:58,300 creates. How this is interesting, so just, I'm not a 3055 03:00:58,300 --> 03:01:03,180 doctor, of course, but it says that PCOS can actually make you 3056 03:01:03,180 --> 03:01:07,260 gain weight, so they're trying to treat a symptom here and not 3057 03:01:07,260 --> 03:01:08,940 the actual cause. 3058 03:01:11,640 --> 03:01:14,100 John C Dvorak: It matters, not because we go these fabulous 3059 03:01:14,160 --> 03:01:16,020 Unknown: despite the effectiveness of these drugs, 3060 03:01:16,020 --> 03:01:19,680 some doctors are concerned about the lack of data available for 3061 03:01:19,680 --> 03:01:23,660 children using them long term. Dr Melanie Cree is a pediatric 3062 03:01:23,660 --> 03:01:27,080 endocrinologist at Children's Hospital Colorado, and she 3063 03:01:27,080 --> 03:01:30,440 treated both Sophie and autumn. Dr Cree, thank you so much for 3064 03:01:30,440 --> 03:01:34,940 joining us. First of all, why are we seeing this increase of 3065 03:01:34,940 --> 03:01:36,740 children using these medications? 3066 03:01:36,860 --> 03:01:39,440 The reason we're seeing such an increase is that these 3067 03:01:39,440 --> 03:01:43,840 medications work and our children are really suffering 3068 03:01:43,840 --> 03:01:47,440 from outcomes from excess weight, ranging from mental 3069 03:01:47,440 --> 03:01:51,100 health and bullying to the development of serious metabolic 3070 03:01:51,100 --> 03:01:53,440 disease, such as type two diabetes. 3071 03:01:53,680 --> 03:01:56,200 When you are treating patients, what sort of options do you 3072 03:01:56,200 --> 03:01:59,020 consider before looking at medication? 3073 03:01:59,380 --> 03:02:04,020 Adam Curry: So this is a script. Listen how she reads that script 3074 03:02:04,500 --> 03:02:07,920 after she says, Oh, no, you gain weight because you're being 3075 03:02:07,920 --> 03:02:13,080 bullied. No, it's very possible that you're being bullied and 3076 03:02:13,080 --> 03:02:18,300 then you resort to eating. This is, this is poor information. 3077 03:02:18,540 --> 03:02:20,480 Even I can see this is not good, 3078 03:02:20,660 --> 03:02:24,380 Unknown: and our children are really suffering from outcomes 3079 03:02:24,380 --> 03:02:28,580 from excess weight, ranging from mental health and bullying to 3080 03:02:28,580 --> 03:02:31,760 the development of serious metabolic disease such as type 3081 03:02:31,760 --> 03:02:32,900 two diabetes. 3082 03:02:33,080 --> 03:02:35,600 When you are treating patients, what sort of options do you 3083 03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:38,420 consider before looking at medication? 3084 03:02:38,840 --> 03:02:44,140 So we always look at lifestyle in terms of trying to help a 3085 03:02:44,260 --> 03:02:46,960 child who is struggling with weight achieve better health, 3086 03:02:47,380 --> 03:02:50,680 and we can look at different aspects of food. Are they 3087 03:02:50,680 --> 03:02:53,320 getting enough fruits and vegetables, cutting down on 3088 03:02:53,320 --> 03:02:57,700 simple carbohydrates, really cutting liquid calories? What 3089 03:02:57,700 --> 03:03:00,780 can they do to increase their activity? Is their neighborhood 3090 03:03:00,780 --> 03:03:05,760 safe to exercise in? Do they have access to facilities or 3091 03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:10,260 sports? Sleep is very important. Do they have some more quiet to 3092 03:03:10,260 --> 03:03:15,480 sleep? Do they get enough sleep? And then, obviously, mental 3093 03:03:15,480 --> 03:03:19,500 health is very important. And are they stressed, or are they 3094 03:03:19,500 --> 03:03:23,900 living in a difficult social environment, and helping align 3095 03:03:23,900 --> 03:03:26,660 all of these to optimize children's health is something 3096 03:03:26,660 --> 03:03:30,500 that we do prior to trying any medication. 3097 03:03:30,560 --> 03:03:35,720 Adam Curry: Give these kids some steak. Give them a rib eye. 3098 03:03:36,320 --> 03:03:38,540 John C Dvorak: No, you can't just though, you gotta poison 3099 03:03:38,540 --> 03:03:41,140 him with the food supply that we have. No 3100 03:03:41,440 --> 03:03:45,100 Adam Curry: please. RFK, Jr, come on in. I 3101 03:03:45,100 --> 03:03:46,660 John C Dvorak: think they should make him head of Health and 3102 03:03:46,660 --> 03:03:49,720 Human Services. That's where they should put him. Yes, he 3103 03:03:49,720 --> 03:03:52,840 would cause nothing but a headache for everybody, and it 3104 03:03:52,840 --> 03:03:55,600 would be about time. Yeah, here we go. 3105 03:03:56,020 --> 03:03:57,940 Unknown: What are some of the misconceptions that you've 3106 03:03:57,940 --> 03:04:01,920 encountered about prescribing these medications and the 3107 03:04:01,920 --> 03:04:03,000 children who are on them, 3108 03:04:03,660 --> 03:04:07,620 I think the number one misconception is that the 3109 03:04:07,620 --> 03:04:12,540 individual is failing somehow, that somebody has to do these 3110 03:04:12,540 --> 03:04:17,220 medications if they don't have a strong enough willpower, and 3111 03:04:17,220 --> 03:04:20,960 that they're weak and can't do this on their own. And that's 3112 03:04:20,960 --> 03:04:24,680 just absolutely not true. These are chemicals. And when you take 3113 03:04:24,680 --> 03:04:27,980 chemicals and they help you lose weight, that means that you've 3114 03:04:27,980 --> 03:04:30,560 got a problem with the chemicals in your brain that are helping 3115 03:04:30,560 --> 03:04:35,840 you to regulate how you sense appetite and how you sense 3116 03:04:36,080 --> 03:04:37,940 fullness. Yeah, 3117 03:04:38,540 --> 03:04:39,380 Adam Curry: chemicals, 3118 03:04:39,380 --> 03:04:42,760 John C Dvorak: the chemicals. Is counteracting the chemicals, the 3119 03:04:42,880 --> 03:04:47,020 poisons that you've been getting from the American food supply, 3120 03:04:48,460 --> 03:04:52,600 high fructose corn syrup being one of them, oh, man, which is a 3121 03:04:52,600 --> 03:04:55,300 chemical. It's produced at a refinery. It's not even 3122 03:04:55,300 --> 03:04:56,680 something that's natural or they 3123 03:04:56,680 --> 03:04:59,620 Adam Curry: make oil and lubricants. Yeah. 3124 03:05:00,360 --> 03:05:02,280 John C Dvorak: It's just unbelievable, and it's the way 3125 03:05:02,280 --> 03:05:05,100 they do it so cavalier. Well, you get these chemicals that'll 3126 03:05:05,100 --> 03:05:07,980 counteract the other chemicals, which are already counteracting 3127 03:05:07,980 --> 03:05:10,320 the natural chemicals that should have been counteracted by 3128 03:05:10,320 --> 03:05:12,780 the other chemicals. And what are you doing? Patrol 3129 03:05:12,780 --> 03:05:15,720 Adam Curry: room, correctly. Said, I was very, very bad to 3130 03:05:15,720 --> 03:05:18,780 say, give that kid a steak, because we all know that that 3131 03:05:18,780 --> 03:05:21,560 creates more climate change. And I will wrap it up with some 3132 03:05:21,560 --> 03:05:22,160 climate change. 3133 03:05:23,660 --> 03:05:26,480 John C Dvorak: Yes, you horrible person. Since 3134 03:05:26,480 --> 03:05:33,020 Adam Curry: cop 16 is underway in Colombia, United Nations 3135 03:05:33,020 --> 03:05:36,920 reports climate has become more difficult to save. Yes, we're 3136 03:05:36,920 --> 03:05:40,600 all gonna die. United Nations reports on climate goals, says 3137 03:05:40,600 --> 03:05:45,640 countries have made no progress. How about that? The German 3138 03:05:45,640 --> 03:05:49,060 farmers, however, will be closing the roads and bridges 3139 03:05:49,060 --> 03:05:54,040 this time for their strike coming up on November 23 amongst 3140 03:05:54,040 --> 03:05:58,900 the report from Oxfam, one of the largest non governmental 3141 03:05:58,900 --> 03:06:07,440 organizations that up to $41 billion in World Bank climate 3142 03:06:07,440 --> 03:06:14,160 finance is unaccounted for. And wouldn't it just be coincidental 3143 03:06:14,160 --> 03:06:18,660 that I have a clip from grandma Yellen, once again, Janet Yellen 3144 03:06:19,020 --> 03:06:23,900 at the IMF and World Bank, Jamboree, talking about climate 3145 03:06:23,900 --> 03:06:25,520 finance, confronting 3146 03:06:25,520 --> 03:06:29,540 Unknown: climate change, of course, also remains at the top 3147 03:06:29,540 --> 03:06:33,080 of our agenda. The MDBs committed. 3148 03:06:33,260 --> 03:06:36,080 Adam Curry: She's talking about MDBs here. That's multilateral 3149 03:06:36,080 --> 03:06:40,240 development banks. Those are basically the IMF and the World 3150 03:06:40,240 --> 03:06:43,600 Bank, which is your money and my money that they're spending and 3151 03:06:43,840 --> 03:06:46,540 clearly not keeping track of confronting 3152 03:06:46,540 --> 03:06:50,560 Unknown: climate change, of course, also remains at the top 3153 03:06:50,560 --> 03:06:56,020 of our agenda. The MDBs committed a record high of 3154 03:06:56,020 --> 03:07:01,620 nearly $75 billion in climate finance to low and middle income 3155 03:07:01,620 --> 03:07:10,620 countries in 2023 a 45% increase from 2021 and they're deploying 3156 03:07:10,620 --> 03:07:15,660 new tools to help countries respond to crises and increase 3157 03:07:15,660 --> 03:07:20,840 resilience. We will continue to work to make climate finance 3158 03:07:21,140 --> 03:07:25,940 easier to access and to support additional private capital 3159 03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:30,320 mobilization at the MDBs and through the Climate and 3160 03:07:30,320 --> 03:07:35,720 Environment trust funds. There, we should turn to implementing 3161 03:07:35,720 --> 03:07:40,240 the recommendations of the recently finalized review of the 3162 03:07:40,240 --> 03:07:45,220 climate finance architecture that we worked with g20 partners 3163 03:07:45,220 --> 03:07:50,260 to launch, and we've made significant cut progress putting 3164 03:07:50,260 --> 03:07:55,660 conflict and fragility, pandemics and climate change at 3165 03:07:55,660 --> 03:08:00,220 the core of the MDBs work through the evolution agenda. 3166 03:08:01,240 --> 03:08:05,700 The MDBs have responsibly stretch their balance sheets and 3167 03:08:05,700 --> 03:08:09,780 pursued innovative financial measures that will enable $200 3168 03:08:10,200 --> 03:08:15,420 billion in additional lending capacity over the next 10 years, 3169 03:08:16,260 --> 03:08:21,080 and as of July, the g20 estimates that measures that 3170 03:08:21,080 --> 03:08:25,040 have already been identified could enable an additional 3171 03:08:25,100 --> 03:08:32,660 almost 100 and $60 billion this nearly 360 billion in total 3172 03:08:32,840 --> 03:08:38,540 would be an annual increase of Over 20% compared to 2023 3173 03:08:40,880 --> 03:08:45,880 Adam Curry: they are ripping us off. No kidding. And listen to 3174 03:08:45,880 --> 03:08:50,920 the money, and it's, oh, it's available for climate finance 3175 03:08:50,920 --> 03:08:55,600 infrastructure. We are so in the wrong business. We should start 3176 03:08:55,600 --> 03:08:57,100 a climate finance you should 3177 03:08:57,100 --> 03:08:59,560 John C Dvorak: have been in a banking business from the get go 3178 03:08:59,560 --> 03:08:59,680 due 3179 03:09:00,520 --> 03:09:01,860 Unknown: to climate change, I'm 3180 03:09:02,220 --> 03:09:05,460 gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine 3181 03:09:05,460 --> 03:09:08,160 all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun. 3182 03:09:15,300 --> 03:09:18,420 Adam Curry: Lots more show to go. We do, of course, have John 3183 03:09:18,420 --> 03:09:21,680 sip of the day coming up, along with some very nice end of show 3184 03:09:21,680 --> 03:09:25,820 mixes. We've got Commodores to welcome. We have nights dames 3185 03:09:25,820 --> 03:09:29,060 title changes and some groovy meetup reports. But first we 3186 03:09:29,060 --> 03:09:33,140 would like to thank the supporters, the producers who 3187 03:09:33,140 --> 03:09:36,200 came in with the treasure for the show, $50 and above. It's 3188 03:09:36,200 --> 03:09:39,200 not a very long list. John, take it away. 3189 03:09:40,220 --> 03:09:42,700 John C Dvorak: Yes. We start with net Ned from Shelby 3190 03:09:42,700 --> 03:09:48,280 Township, Michigan. Another. Michigander, 177 77 Nate Thurman 3191 03:09:48,280 --> 03:09:54,340 in Longville, long view, Washington. 170 70 another. 17 3192 03:09:54,340 --> 03:09:59,620 more years. Guy, William Martin in Essex, Ontario, Canada. One 3193 03:09:59,620 --> 03:10:04,680 seven. And D parts unknown is unknown, anonymous. I don't know 3194 03:10:04,680 --> 03:10:14,280 it's a blank, but it's 133 52 Ryan net doubt, naddo, nado in 3195 03:10:14,280 --> 03:10:18,300 Bozeman, Montana. 121, 21 ah, there he is. Kevin McLaughlin, 3196 03:10:18,300 --> 03:10:20,960 right at the top of the list. 808. Is the Archduke of Luna, 3197 03:10:20,960 --> 03:10:25,760 lover of America and boobs. Another one is Eric Maki, M, a, 3198 03:10:25,760 --> 03:10:30,620 k, I, in Blairsville, Georgia, with 800, a David CACT, 3199 03:10:30,980 --> 03:10:34,160 Adam Curry: good old David and show mixer. God, no one could 3200 03:10:34,160 --> 03:10:34,640 Yes. He's 3201 03:10:34,640 --> 03:10:40,720 John C Dvorak: in Santa Valley in Arizona. 73 ham radio 3202 03:10:40,720 --> 03:10:45,700 donation. 7373 72 ham radio donation is an interesting idea. 3203 03:10:45,700 --> 03:10:50,020 Yes, I like it. Michael Elmore, Gastonia, North Carolina, 7215 3204 03:10:50,860 --> 03:10:53,800 John Hui boury, 3205 03:10:54,880 --> 03:10:55,600 Unknown: bore, 3206 03:10:57,280 --> 03:10:58,900 Adam Curry: hey. Farmer is what that's saying. 3207 03:10:58,900 --> 03:11:02,880 John C Dvorak: Hey. Farmer in Bristol, Tennessee, 7117 Kelly 3208 03:11:02,880 --> 03:11:08,160 Hubbard. Hubbard and her cupboard is Plymouth, Minnesota, 3209 03:11:08,160 --> 03:11:14,880 at 6009 uh, Daniel George in Danbury, Connecticut, 6006 small 3210 03:11:14,880 --> 03:11:24,620 boobs. Uh, Mark Hardwick in a Lido, Texas, 6006 David Weicker 3211 03:11:24,680 --> 03:11:25,340 or wicker, 3212 03:11:26,120 --> 03:11:29,900 Adam Curry: you have not done that right once. Weicker wicker, 3213 03:11:29,900 --> 03:11:30,140 he 3214 03:11:30,140 --> 03:11:32,060 John C Dvorak: is because there's a congressman. He is all 3215 03:11:32,060 --> 03:11:32,660 the same way. It 3216 03:11:32,660 --> 03:11:34,580 Adam Curry: was always pronounced. We serve by His 3217 03:11:34,580 --> 03:11:36,200 grace. David wicker, and 3218 03:11:36,200 --> 03:11:38,900 John C Dvorak: he is in Jacksonville, Florida with 5517 3219 03:11:39,980 --> 03:11:45,400 James Moore in San Pablo, California, has grabbed the 3220 03:11:47,080 --> 03:11:54,400 street, 5463 What is he saying? Here my last tip was about pens. 3221 03:11:56,560 --> 03:11:59,560 Now this pen, the pen I would plug glass, shows the one you 3222 03:11:59,560 --> 03:12:05,400 want. Surprise, surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444 Jonathan 3223 03:12:05,400 --> 03:12:08,700 Straub and Roswell, Georgia. 5270 3224 03:12:09,360 --> 03:12:12,420 Adam Curry: needs a deduction, and he wants to, he wants to 3225 03:12:12,420 --> 03:12:16,620 call up Mike Straub as a douche bag, and for himself, 3226 03:12:18,480 --> 03:12:21,920 Unknown: you've been deduced. Alexis 3227 03:12:21,920 --> 03:12:25,520 John C Dvorak: Robles in Chula Vista, California, 5272 and also 3228 03:12:25,520 --> 03:12:30,440 cost us in Aldergrove, BC, Canada. And he needs a deducing 3229 03:12:30,440 --> 03:12:30,860 at 5272 3230 03:12:33,380 --> 03:12:35,180 Unknown: you've been deduced. 3231 03:12:37,400 --> 03:12:42,040 John C Dvorak: Sir Mar santalla In Tucson, Arizona, 5150 listen 3232 03:12:42,040 --> 03:12:43,780 Adam Curry: to this. Thank you for all you do. Please. There's 3233 03:12:43,780 --> 03:12:46,720 my daughter, Cassandra mitzner, a happy birthday. Her birthday 3234 03:12:46,720 --> 03:12:51,880 is a Monday. The 28th will be 34 we call Kamala in our household, 3235 03:12:51,940 --> 03:12:58,660 Mama law, translation from Spanish, means suck me. You 3236 03:12:58,660 --> 03:12:59,440 think that's right? 3237 03:13:00,220 --> 03:13:01,800 John C Dvorak: I don't know. We should look it up, because 3238 03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:06,780 that's what Mama is, what? What's her name? The talk show 3239 03:13:06,780 --> 03:13:11,520 host of Barrymore girl Drew Barrymore Drew Barrymore calls 3240 03:13:11,520 --> 03:13:19,140 her mama, but I don't know that she knows it means suck me. We 3241 03:13:19,140 --> 03:13:21,440 should have some we should have Spanish speakers in the chat 3242 03:13:21,440 --> 03:13:21,860 room, 3243 03:13:22,940 --> 03:13:23,660 Unknown: trolls, and 3244 03:13:25,640 --> 03:13:28,100 John C Dvorak: then just finish it off with $50 donations while 3245 03:13:28,100 --> 03:13:31,520 you're waiting for the results of that query to the chat room. 3246 03:13:31,520 --> 03:13:35,900 Amy galinis and Buri in Washington. Brian M and Heiser 3247 03:13:35,900 --> 03:13:38,540 in Lancaster, California, Michael Elmore in Gastonia, 3248 03:13:38,540 --> 03:13:42,460 North Carolina. Aaron wise Gerber in Bend Oregon. John 3249 03:13:42,460 --> 03:13:46,420 Taylor in fluorescent Colorado, sir. Richard Gardner, New York 3250 03:13:46,420 --> 03:13:49,060 City, I believe Sarah, Sera, 3251 03:13:49,060 --> 03:13:53,500 Adam Curry: sir. Sarah, no, says, sounds like the fine wine. 3252 03:13:53,500 --> 03:13:54,160 Sera, 3253 03:13:55,420 --> 03:13:59,440 John C Dvorak: oh, okay, oh, I see that. Yes. Sera, okay. Sera, 3254 03:13:59,440 --> 03:14:05,220 spelled Sarah, but says Sera, 10 times. Teen Brentwood, 3255 03:14:05,220 --> 03:14:07,020 Tennessee, 10 line. Steinle. 3256 03:14:07,080 --> 03:14:09,000 Adam Curry: Stein steinline. 3257 03:14:09,120 --> 03:14:12,600 John C Dvorak: There it is, once you read these, and then last on 3258 03:14:12,600 --> 03:14:20,100 our list is worn out night in Calexico, California, 50 bucks, 3259 03:14:20,100 --> 03:14:24,620 and I'm the worn out night of San Felipe Baja, California, 3260 03:14:24,620 --> 03:14:28,100 been a few years, but I'm back. I believe my total donation to 3261 03:14:28,100 --> 03:14:32,780 date is $1,500.33 Okay, thank you very much. And 3262 03:14:32,900 --> 03:14:34,820 Adam Curry: sorry. I was just trying to help you out there. 3263 03:14:34,820 --> 03:14:39,320 You know, I'm sorry. Let me apologize properly. I'm sorry. 3264 03:14:39,320 --> 03:14:39,440 I'm 3265 03:14:39,560 --> 03:14:41,440 Unknown: sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. 3266 03:14:42,400 --> 03:14:43,420 John C Dvorak: Okay, Biden, 3267 03:14:44,200 --> 03:14:47,140 Adam Curry: thank you very much to these supporters of the show 3268 03:14:47,140 --> 03:14:49,840 producers. You are all producers, and thank you to 3269 03:14:49,840 --> 03:14:53,680 those who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity, or you're 3270 03:14:53,680 --> 03:14:56,260 on a sustaining donation, which works it gets you all the way to 3271 03:14:56,260 --> 03:14:59,440 knighthood and beyond. We appreciate it any amount, any 3272 03:14:59,440 --> 03:15:02,580 frequent. See you make it up and once again, thank you to our 3273 03:15:02,580 --> 03:15:05,580 Commodores who are about to bring up and have them arrive. 3274 03:15:05,580 --> 03:15:08,760 And our executive producers, Associate Executive producers, 3275 03:15:08,760 --> 03:15:11,700 Knights and Dames and everybody else. No agenda donations.com. 3276 03:15:12,600 --> 03:15:23,420 You've got karma. No agenda donations.com. Eight. There we 3277 03:15:23,420 --> 03:15:31,040 have Shira steinline celebrating today. Sir Marvin wishes his 3278 03:15:31,040 --> 03:15:33,740 daughter, Cassandra mitzner, happy birthday. Turns 38 3279 03:15:33,980 --> 03:15:39,560 tomorrow. Hey. Sir Felix in Australia, turns 15 on Tuesday, 3280 03:15:39,560 --> 03:15:42,640 the 29th of November. But because he lives in the future, 3281 03:15:42,640 --> 03:15:46,420 that will be Monday, the 28th for the no agenda fans, that, of 3282 03:15:46,420 --> 03:15:50,980 course, is from his from his dad, Sir Chris Wilson and Dame 3283 03:15:50,980 --> 03:15:54,640 Kiley. Nice to hear from them. Ed Lyon wishes his son, Nathan 3284 03:15:54,640 --> 03:15:59,020 Lyon, a happy 111, years old on October 30. And finally, on her 3285 03:15:59,020 --> 03:16:02,340 birthday list. Sir cut board, happy birthday from everybody. 3286 03:16:02,340 --> 03:16:04,620 Here's the best part of 3287 03:16:14,100 --> 03:16:14,640 Unknown: the universe. 3288 03:16:15,900 --> 03:16:19,920 Adam Curry: We welcome Sir Tom, who now becomes surveyor, 3289 03:16:19,920 --> 03:16:23,780 Commodore of the Northern Northwest lakes. I'm not quite 3290 03:16:23,780 --> 03:16:28,340 sure exactly. I think it became a Viscount and Sir il Pope D 3291 03:16:28,340 --> 03:16:33,080 cyclismo, now Baronet sir il Pope D siklismo. And 3292 03:16:33,140 --> 03:16:36,080 congratulations to both of you for supporting the no agenda 3293 03:16:36,080 --> 03:16:39,860 podcast in another $1,000 or more. It is highly appreciated. 3294 03:16:39,860 --> 03:16:43,840 Now it's time to bring in our most recent list of Commodores. 3295 03:16:43,840 --> 03:16:47,320 This is it, the final one. Quite a list we have. 3296 03:16:52,720 --> 03:16:55,900 We welcome Commodore David Rosa Commodores, or hopscotch 3297 03:16:55,900 --> 03:16:59,260 Commodores, Billy Bones. Billy Bones. Commodore, David, get 3298 03:16:59,260 --> 03:17:02,520 over it. Lady. Get over it. Commodore, Jennifer Hughes, 3299 03:17:02,520 --> 03:17:05,640 Commodore, Tyler, Commodore, Craig Allen, Commodore, Ryan 3300 03:17:05,640 --> 03:17:09,180 Jones, Commodore, surveyor. Commodore, Greg Clifton, 3301 03:17:09,180 --> 03:17:12,900 Commodore, Roger Commodore, Matt the metal bend. Commodore, 3302 03:17:12,900 --> 03:17:16,380 Robert corbeck, Commodore, Harris, Commodore, scalen 3303 03:17:16,620 --> 03:17:20,280 Commodore, Sharkey, Commodore, EA Commodore, Q of d l Moore, 3304 03:17:20,280 --> 03:17:23,420 Commodore, Zachary stocksville, Commodore of the South. 3305 03:17:23,420 --> 03:17:26,780 Commodore, Jim Turner, Commodore, George P perdell, 3306 03:17:26,780 --> 03:17:29,480 Commodore of Nederland Commodore, Keaton stone, 3307 03:17:29,660 --> 03:17:34,040 Commodore, dude named Ben Commodore, C sir, P res of FL 3308 03:17:34,040 --> 03:17:38,480 330 Commodore, circuit sir. Cut board, Commodore, Fort and the 3309 03:17:38,480 --> 03:17:42,520 trio fleet Commodore, me outison Damia, odessen, Commodore, sir 3310 03:17:42,520 --> 03:17:46,120 il Pope, dcismo and Commodore West 3311 03:17:48,040 --> 03:17:51,580 Unknown: arriving. Whoo, quite 3312 03:17:51,580 --> 03:17:54,940 Adam Curry: a list. There a beautiful list. And if that 3313 03:17:54,940 --> 03:17:57,760 wasn't enough, we've got Knights and Dames, and we have quite a 3314 03:17:57,760 --> 03:18:01,620 number of knights and a dame so bring out a sword I got 3315 03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:03,780 John C Dvorak: the big, quite a number sword. 3316 03:18:05,400 --> 03:18:08,100 Adam Curry: Jennifer Hughes Tyler, Craig Allen, Craig 3317 03:18:08,100 --> 03:18:13,200 Clifton, Aubin Q Andrew Perez and David West, step on up. All 3318 03:18:13,200 --> 03:18:16,800 of you have become knights and dame of the no agenda, round 3319 03:18:16,800 --> 03:18:19,980 table, I am proud to pronounce the KV is Dame Jen, legal drug 3320 03:18:19,980 --> 03:18:23,540 dealer of the Cedar Valley, sir Tyler in Alaska, sir Craig Allen 3321 03:18:23,540 --> 03:18:28,400 of Gila, Gila River, sir cliffy, sir Q of DL, more sir P, res, 3322 03:18:28,400 --> 03:18:33,020 Commodore, FFL 330 and Sir Joe McGillicuddy for you. We've got 3323 03:18:33,020 --> 03:18:36,260 hooker, some blow rent poison, Chardonnay, along with Eagle 3324 03:18:36,260 --> 03:18:41,260 rare bourbon and 902 filet cook medium rare IPA and a club 3325 03:18:41,260 --> 03:18:46,360 Ferris file set Texas brisket and beans and brown swagger for 3326 03:18:46,660 --> 03:18:49,480 smoking hot wife Maggie. And of course, we have the mutton and 3327 03:18:49,480 --> 03:18:52,960 Mead lined up for you here, just like the Commodores. And some of 3328 03:18:52,960 --> 03:18:56,920 you will be Commodores as well. Go to no agenda rings.com that 3329 03:18:56,920 --> 03:19:01,020 is where you can find pictures of these beautiful rings. And of 3330 03:19:01,020 --> 03:19:03,840 course, you can fill out your ring size. There's a handy ring 3331 03:19:03,840 --> 03:19:07,920 size guide there. Along with the ring, you will receive your 3332 03:19:07,920 --> 03:19:11,640 certificate of authenticity and wax because of the signet ring 3333 03:19:11,760 --> 03:19:15,000 to seal your important correspondence. Congratulations, 3334 03:19:15,000 --> 03:19:19,800 Dame and knights and Commodores and new title holders. Welcome 3335 03:19:19,800 --> 03:19:23,660 once again to the peerage ladder of the no agenda show. 3336 03:19:32,000 --> 03:19:34,700 We got a couple of meet up reports. The Ottawa Meetup is a 3337 03:19:34,700 --> 03:19:38,060 written report. This is from the meetup report themselves. Huge 3338 03:19:38,060 --> 03:19:40,960 success. We had 15 people show up. This was their first one, 3339 03:19:41,680 --> 03:19:44,200 this meant that there were so many of us that we didn't even 3340 03:19:44,200 --> 03:19:46,840 all get to talk. So we will definitely be holding another 3341 03:19:46,840 --> 03:19:49,660 one. I hope that this meetup helps the show in some smaller, 3342 03:19:49,660 --> 03:19:52,720 even bigger way. Well, connection is protection. It 3343 03:19:52,720 --> 03:19:55,720 helps everybody. A thank you to everyone who came, of course, a 3344 03:19:55,720 --> 03:19:57,880 thank you for giving us the means to meet up and for all 3345 03:19:57,880 --> 03:20:01,740 that you and John do sincerely. The. Ottawa meetup, and then, as 3346 03:20:01,740 --> 03:20:04,800 requested, and they deliver, here's a meetup report from the 3347 03:20:04,800 --> 03:20:07,680 Porto portal. Meet up in Portugal 3348 03:20:08,940 --> 03:20:12,360 Unknown: in the morning. Greetings from Portugal. 3349 03:20:12,720 --> 03:20:19,020 Greetings from the Porto. Porto. This is Sir Atlas chance and I 3350 03:20:19,020 --> 03:20:20,840 pass around the phone. 3351 03:20:21,860 --> 03:20:25,760 Hello, Adam and John. This is DECA Fletcher from Porto. 3352 03:20:26,060 --> 03:20:28,880 Cheers. We love you guys in 3353 03:20:28,880 --> 03:20:32,300 the morning from Sir il Pope de cilismo, 3354 03:20:32,300 --> 03:20:35,720 the only criminal in the meeting. No spokes here in 3355 03:20:38,720 --> 03:20:41,620 the morning Porto, Portugal from Hong Kong. 3356 03:20:41,860 --> 03:20:42,520 We love you. 3357 03:20:48,220 --> 03:20:50,740 Adam Curry: That sounds like a bunch of criminals, actually, 3358 03:20:50,740 --> 03:20:54,340 and it sounds a bit like a Eurovision voting thing. It was 3359 03:20:54,400 --> 03:20:57,220 interesting. I'm glad you guys did that. Thank you very much. 3360 03:20:57,220 --> 03:21:01,440 Now, there was a big one for our anniversary in London. This is 3361 03:21:01,440 --> 03:21:03,180 the London meetup report, 3362 03:21:03,780 --> 03:21:04,860 Unknown: g'day mateys. 3363 03:21:04,920 --> 03:21:06,540 It's Campbell from Kent. 3364 03:21:06,960 --> 03:21:08,940 I got nothing so happy birthday. 3365 03:21:09,360 --> 03:21:14,040 And John and Adam. Sarah here Brian, not Brian of London, and 3366 03:21:14,040 --> 03:21:17,520 not Brian with an eye thinks I look like Graham Hancock. That's 3367 03:21:17,520 --> 03:21:18,720 weird. Hello in the 3368 03:21:21,240 --> 03:21:25,160 morning, John and Adam and congratulations on 17 more years 3369 03:21:25,160 --> 03:21:30,380 from crime. The Black Knight from Royal wood ambassador, hi. 3370 03:21:30,380 --> 03:21:33,320 This is Emma, not raped, from London. Whoopsie. 3371 03:21:35,780 --> 03:21:37,820 Happy birthday. No agenda. Keep 3372 03:21:37,820 --> 03:21:39,680 on rocking here in London. 3373 03:21:40,220 --> 03:21:43,420 Hello, everybody. Luisa from Brazil, happy birthday. 3374 03:21:43,600 --> 03:21:45,400 Hi. I'm Gustav from Brazil. 3375 03:21:45,400 --> 03:21:50,140 Thanks for your curry in the morning. Adam and John, happy 3376 03:21:50,140 --> 03:21:53,500 17th. I haven't been with you the whole time. Just the last 3377 03:21:53,500 --> 03:21:57,520 four years I've been streaming you SATs. Where do they go? By 3378 03:21:57,520 --> 03:22:00,180 the way, I never hear mention of them. But here's the four more 3379 03:22:00,180 --> 03:22:06,000 years of streaming you those sweet Satoshis. It's Jack of the 3380 03:22:06,000 --> 03:22:06,960 Golden rumors in the 3381 03:22:07,380 --> 03:22:10,500 morning. Everyone. Happy birthday, John and Adam. Four 3382 03:22:10,500 --> 03:22:15,000 more years not here. Hello, John and Adam. This is Sir Arctic map 3383 03:22:15,060 --> 03:22:20,040 from the high peak, saying Happy 17th birthday to you guys. You 3384 03:22:20,040 --> 03:22:24,080 may remember me from jingles such as my Sharia law ISIS in 3385 03:22:24,080 --> 03:22:28,400 America, we take our guys and four more years. 3386 03:22:28,820 --> 03:22:34,220 Hello, we're malex from the big smoke and happy birthday. No 3387 03:22:34,280 --> 03:22:34,760 agenda. 3388 03:22:36,920 --> 03:22:40,660 Woof the cock here at the London longest standing member meet up 3389 03:22:40,660 --> 03:22:45,220 part three, and I'm wondering, where is our Viscount of the 3390 03:22:45,220 --> 03:22:49,780 South East and London? So, Luke, where are you? You? 3391 03:23:06,300 --> 03:23:09,540 Adam Curry: You know they say no agenda. Meetups changes your 3392 03:23:09,540 --> 03:23:13,380 life. I think that's proof, right there. That's a good bunch 3393 03:23:13,380 --> 03:23:16,680 of people. There's a meet up tomorrow the land of Walt's meet 3394 03:23:16,680 --> 03:23:21,260 up in Minneapolis, Minnesota, at punch bowl social. That'll kick 3395 03:23:21,260 --> 03:23:24,500 off at 530 and then, if you go to no agenda meetups.com you 3396 03:23:24,500 --> 03:23:29,660 will see there is a slew, just a slew of meetups all the way 3397 03:23:29,660 --> 03:23:33,320 through November, into December, into January. I suggest you go, 3398 03:23:33,320 --> 03:23:36,680 take a look, find a meetup. Go to this connection is 3399 03:23:36,680 --> 03:23:39,680 protection. You will meet children from other lands, and 3400 03:23:39,680 --> 03:23:42,340 you will make relationships that will last forever. Some people 3401 03:23:42,340 --> 03:23:45,520 even hook up. No agenda. Meetups, calm. If you can't find 3402 03:23:45,520 --> 03:23:47,860 one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes 3403 03:23:47,860 --> 03:23:52,540 Unknown: you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. 3404 03:23:59,200 --> 03:24:03,660 Adam Curry: Everybody knows everybody knows, so everybody 3405 03:24:03,660 --> 03:24:09,000 feels the same and knows your name. Are you going to tell me 3406 03:24:09,000 --> 03:24:10,260 you don't have any ISOs? 3407 03:24:10,800 --> 03:24:13,800 John C Dvorak: I'm being magnanimous, and I'm letting, 3408 03:24:13,800 --> 03:24:17,100 allowing, because I've been dominating these things. I'm 3409 03:24:17,100 --> 03:24:21,560 giving it to you. I'm giving the floor. This is a very bowing and 3410 03:24:21,620 --> 03:24:24,680 giving you this is because this is bad. 3411 03:24:25,040 --> 03:24:31,940 Adam Curry: Why is it bad? You one crappy ISO one. No one. I 3412 03:24:31,940 --> 03:24:37,400 have one. I'm I was counting on you. Well, then this is the 3413 03:24:37,400 --> 03:24:38,120 winner. He's 3414 03:24:38,120 --> 03:24:40,360 Unknown: really, really bad, very, very bad. 3415 03:24:41,080 --> 03:24:41,680 That's not 3416 03:24:41,680 --> 03:24:45,400 Adam Curry: good. No, it's very bad. It's very, very bad. I 3417 03:24:45,400 --> 03:24:46,780 can't use that well 3418 03:24:49,300 --> 03:24:51,280 John C Dvorak: into the well and pick something out. Okay, 3419 03:24:51,280 --> 03:24:53,380 Adam Curry: I'll dip in the well. I'm gonna scroll all the 3420 03:24:53,380 --> 03:24:56,140 way down. I'm just gonna grab something. And I 3421 03:24:56,140 --> 03:24:59,140 Unknown: am triggered. I'm so triggered. How about that? 3422 03:24:59,440 --> 03:25:00,780 John C Dvorak: I love. That? Okay, 3423 03:25:01,560 --> 03:25:03,720 Adam Curry: wow. What is that? How did that happen? That was no 3424 03:25:03,720 --> 03:25:11,040 good. Oh, that was horrible. Wow. Man, that is not how I like 3425 03:25:11,040 --> 03:25:15,060 to do my transitions. I'm so sorry. And now everybody, it's 3426 03:25:15,180 --> 03:25:18,060 time for your favorite part of the show. What is John's Tip of 3427 03:25:18,060 --> 03:25:18,660 the Day? 3428 03:25:22,740 --> 03:25:24,740 Unknown: Just a tip with JC. 3429 03:25:25,940 --> 03:25:27,020 And sometimes I don't, 3430 03:25:29,960 --> 03:25:32,600 John C Dvorak: well, this is a screwy one, but I definitely 3431 03:25:32,600 --> 03:25:36,500 something I need to talk about. Okay, I'm recommending another 3432 03:25:36,500 --> 03:25:39,320 product. There's a bunch of people that make this product 3433 03:25:39,320 --> 03:25:44,800 surprise another this is a lid remover type can opener. 3434 03:25:45,340 --> 03:25:47,800 Adam Curry: Oh, these are actually quite handy to have 3435 03:25:47,800 --> 03:25:48,880 around the house. I've 3436 03:25:48,880 --> 03:25:52,660 John C Dvorak: discovered these things in France in the 70s. 3437 03:25:52,960 --> 03:25:55,840 When I was visiting, I went to France one of my trips, when I 3438 03:25:55,840 --> 03:25:58,180 was working for the government. I go to France all the time, 3439 03:25:58,240 --> 03:26:02,640 yes, and I bought one there, which I still have, and it still 3440 03:26:02,640 --> 03:26:07,080 works. And this is different than the can and by the way, and 3441 03:26:07,080 --> 03:26:09,840 I had to wait 20 years to see him in the United States because 3442 03:26:09,840 --> 03:26:11,940 I think there's a patent. There's something involved in 3443 03:26:11,940 --> 03:26:15,480 this. But what this thing does, and it's called a smooth edge, 3444 03:26:15,480 --> 03:26:18,840 it's called a lid remover. It's got different titles for what 3445 03:26:18,840 --> 03:26:22,520 they are. You have to be careful a normal can opener, cracks the 3446 03:26:22,520 --> 03:26:27,020 top of the can, and you grind around, and it rips open the can 3447 03:26:27,260 --> 03:26:30,320 and leaves. It gives you a sharp edge thing and cut yourself. 3448 03:26:30,380 --> 03:26:33,740 These lid removers take literally, reach under the lid 3449 03:26:33,740 --> 03:26:38,840 and pull the unlatch the lid, the entire lid from the can, 3450 03:26:39,200 --> 03:26:42,220 pull it off, and then you dump the product out, and then you 3451 03:26:42,220 --> 03:26:45,580 can wash the can and put the lid back on it. It's like of can. 3452 03:26:45,580 --> 03:26:50,500 This is amazing. These things are the absolute best. They're 3453 03:26:50,560 --> 03:26:53,740 actually it takes a little more work to get them once you get 3454 03:26:53,740 --> 03:26:55,840 the hang of them, because you have to put it at a certain 3455 03:26:55,840 --> 03:26:58,780 angle and to make it work. But you have one. 3456 03:26:59,680 --> 03:27:02,280 Adam Curry: I do not have one. I'm thinking, I need to get one. 3457 03:27:03,060 --> 03:27:03,180 Oh, I 3458 03:27:03,180 --> 03:27:06,000 John C Dvorak: thought you said they're great. Well, I've 3459 03:27:06,000 --> 03:27:08,700 Adam Curry: seen old ladies use them. Oops, sorry. Old 3460 03:27:08,700 --> 03:27:10,740 John C Dvorak: ladies don't even know what they are. I've seen 3461 03:27:10,800 --> 03:27:12,600 old ladies use can openers. 3462 03:27:13,980 --> 03:27:16,740 Adam Curry: This, this, yeah, yeah. It sounds like something I 3463 03:27:16,740 --> 03:27:18,720 might, I might want to pick up. You'd 3464 03:27:18,720 --> 03:27:20,720 John C Dvorak: love it these things. You should the can 3465 03:27:20,720 --> 03:27:24,920 opener, which just rips off the rips off the top, is not 3466 03:27:24,920 --> 03:27:27,680 anything like these lid removers. And what you want is 3467 03:27:27,680 --> 03:27:29,600 one of these things. They they're about to say, eight, 3468 03:27:29,600 --> 03:27:33,260 nine bucks. Maybe they're once you get to hang out how to use 3469 03:27:33,260 --> 03:27:35,660 them, because it does take a little skill more than a can 3470 03:27:35,660 --> 03:27:38,900 opener, and they're just dynamite. And once you start 3471 03:27:38,900 --> 03:27:41,740 using them, you go, wow, why? Where's this been all my life? 3472 03:27:41,740 --> 03:27:49,060 Adam Curry: So this is basically a better mouse trap. Yeah. And 3473 03:27:49,060 --> 03:27:51,760 do you have a brand in mind? No, there's 3474 03:27:51,760 --> 03:27:54,580 John C Dvorak: about 20 guys will make them, and they're all 3475 03:27:54,820 --> 03:27:58,480 They're pretty much all the same design, and they get underneath 3476 03:27:58,480 --> 03:28:02,340 the lid lip, and they under, hook the lid from the can, and 3477 03:28:02,340 --> 03:28:04,920 they pull the whole lid off, yeah, and they can be put back 3478 03:28:04,920 --> 03:28:05,220 on. 3479 03:28:05,640 --> 03:28:10,320 Adam Curry: This is an amazing Tip of the day, another winner 3480 03:28:10,320 --> 03:28:13,020 from John C Dvorak. It is the tip of the day. Everybody. You 3481 03:28:13,020 --> 03:28:15,780 can find the tip of the day.net. JCD, 3482 03:28:20,000 --> 03:28:22,160 Unknown: just a tip with JCD 3483 03:28:23,360 --> 03:28:24,620 and sometimes Adam. 3484 03:28:26,060 --> 03:28:31,100 Adam Curry: Well, there it is. We wind up episode number 17. I 3485 03:28:31,100 --> 03:28:37,580 mean, anniversary number 17. Episode 1707, on october 27 Does 3486 03:28:37,580 --> 03:28:41,620 it get any crazier than that? I don't think so. Thank you all 3487 03:28:41,620 --> 03:28:46,240 very much for being here trolls and oh, look at this. If you 3488 03:28:46,240 --> 03:28:50,440 just stay with us, like, don't leave your modern podcast app if 3489 03:28:50,440 --> 03:28:53,800 you're listening to the stream or the troll room coming up 3490 03:28:53,800 --> 03:28:59,620 next, we have DH unplug number 724, mega buyers. Revealed is 3491 03:28:59,620 --> 03:29:01,140 that the one from this past Tuesday. 3492 03:29:03,300 --> 03:29:04,560 John C Dvorak: Yeah, must be okay. 3493 03:29:05,160 --> 03:29:07,440 Adam Curry: I haven't heard it yet, so I think I'll stick 3494 03:29:07,440 --> 03:29:11,820 around and have a listen. And you should come back to see 3495 03:29:11,820 --> 03:29:15,420 what's going to happen, as we will have all kinds of 3496 03:29:15,420 --> 03:29:18,480 disgusting Halloween clips on Thursday, and we'll get you all 3497 03:29:18,480 --> 03:29:23,360 primed and ready for Election Day. Crazy coming to you from 3498 03:29:23,360 --> 03:29:26,360 the heart of the Texas Hill Country in the morning 3499 03:29:26,360 --> 03:29:28,280 everybody. I'm Adam curry, and from 3500 03:29:28,280 --> 03:29:30,140 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still 3501 03:29:30,140 --> 03:29:33,080 wondering about Snoop Dogg. I'm Jesse Dvorak. 3502 03:29:33,320 --> 03:29:37,880 Adam Curry: End of show, mixes from nukes 3k David kector and 3503 03:29:37,880 --> 03:29:41,140 Professor Jay Jones from China. Remember us at no agenda 3504 03:29:41,140 --> 03:29:44,680 donations.com We'll talk to you on Thursday. Until then, adios, 3505 03:29:44,680 --> 03:29:47,560 Mo foes, a hooey, hooey and such. Get my. 3506 03:30:15,540 --> 03:30:18,900 Unknown: Saturday night, no date to do the climate change, no 3507 03:30:18,900 --> 03:30:19,920 promotion at work 3508 03:30:20,580 --> 03:30:25,040 do the climate change, taxes and prices going up due to climate 3509 03:30:25,040 --> 03:30:25,460 change, 3510 03:30:25,460 --> 03:30:29,480 rental high insurance too, due to climate change, no promotion 3511 03:30:29,480 --> 03:30:29,840 at work 3512 03:30:30,560 --> 03:30:35,060 due to climate change, taxes and prices going up due to climate 3513 03:30:35,060 --> 03:30:35,600 change. 3514 03:30:36,800 --> 03:30:38,300 Jesus climate change, 3515 03:30:39,800 --> 03:30:42,400 they say it's happening. We're all getting hotter, but to me, 3516 03:30:42,400 --> 03:30:46,300 we looking like frogs in the boiler water. Saturday night got 3517 03:30:46,300 --> 03:30:50,080 no gas to do the climate change. Make the COVID sparse 3518 03:30:50,560 --> 03:30:55,060 due to climate change, taxes and prices going up due to climate 3519 03:30:55,060 --> 03:30:55,600 change. They 3520 03:30:55,600 --> 03:30:58,960 say it's all my fault, but I can't even change my car's oil 3521 03:30:58,960 --> 03:31:02,220 at all. They say it's happening. We're all getting hotter, but to 3522 03:31:02,220 --> 03:31:06,000 me, we looking like frost in the boiler water. Power outages at 3523 03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:09,300 home due to climate change after ACR, but I'm still in the zone. 3524 03:31:09,960 --> 03:31:12,840 Green Jobs promise, but still ain't shown. Meanwhile, my 3525 03:31:12,840 --> 03:31:16,140 friend just keeps getting blown they say it's happening, we're 3526 03:31:16,140 --> 03:31:18,780 all getting hotter, but to me, we looking like frost in the 3527 03:31:18,780 --> 03:31:21,860 boiler water. They talk about the cows and all the men came. 3528 03:31:22,280 --> 03:31:25,820 My ball is empty, and I'm feeling the pit world we save 3529 03:31:25,820 --> 03:31:28,760 it. Sure, that's true, but all this government ain't helping me 3530 03:31:28,760 --> 03:31:32,360 or you. They say it's happening. World getting hotter, but to me, 3531 03:31:32,360 --> 03:31:35,780 we look at like frogs in the boiling water Saturday night. 3532 03:31:35,960 --> 03:31:39,500 Yeah, still hot. To do the climate change working extra 3533 03:31:39,500 --> 03:31:42,100 shifts. But why? Due to climate change. Do you 3534 03:31:42,520 --> 03:31:46,480 think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. 3535 03:31:50,560 --> 03:31:56,500 As important as Trump's Fascism is, and is the lead story every 3536 03:31:56,500 --> 03:32:02,580 day, his Cozen up to dictators, his obsession with Hitler that 3537 03:32:02,580 --> 03:32:03,480 has now come out. 3538 03:32:04,560 --> 03:32:07,560 Either you have the choice of a Donald Trump will sit in the 3539 03:32:07,560 --> 03:32:12,720 Oval Office stewing, plotting revenge, retribution, writing 3540 03:32:12,720 --> 03:32:13,980 out his enemies list. 3541 03:32:14,700 --> 03:32:19,560 One other thing that you'll see next week Caitlin is Trump 3542 03:32:19,560 --> 03:32:29,300 actually reenacting the Madison Square Garden rally in 1939 he 3543 03:32:29,540 --> 03:32:36,080 is killing us. Women have died already. Very reporting, by the 3544 03:32:36,080 --> 03:32:37,760 way, that shouldn't be questioned by 3545 03:32:37,820 --> 03:32:38,900 idiots. Do 3546 03:32:38,900 --> 03:32:41,200 you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. 3547 03:32:42,220 --> 03:32:45,760 So I always got more publicity than other people, and I didn't. 3548 03:32:45,820 --> 03:32:50,320 It wasn't like I was crying. In fact, I don't know exactly why. 3549 03:32:50,320 --> 03:32:51,640 Maybe you can tell me, Oh, I can 3550 03:32:51,640 --> 03:32:53,920 definitely tell you, you said a lot of wild shit. 3551 03:32:57,520 --> 03:33:00,580 Adam Curry: Allow me to sum up this week's news. Hitler 3552 03:33:02,260 --> 03:33:03,240 Unknown: is back. Hitler. 3553 03:33:04,500 --> 03:33:06,180 Adam Curry: Hitler is back, everybody. 3554 03:33:07,860 --> 03:33:09,480 Unknown: Let me take you back to 1939, 3555 03:33:10,320 --> 03:33:12,600 do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Hitler 3556 03:33:13,380 --> 03:33:14,100 John C Dvorak: is back. 3557 03:33:14,340 --> 03:33:18,240 Adam Curry: 21% of Gen Z Americans think Adolf Hitler had 3558 03:33:18,240 --> 03:33:20,160 some good ideas. Actual 3559 03:33:20,340 --> 03:33:20,900 Unknown: American Nazis. 3560 03:33:22,280 --> 03:33:23,480 It's a Nazi rally. How 3561 03:33:24,200 --> 03:33:24,920 dare you. Donald 3562 03:33:24,920 --> 03:33:28,160 Trump has said he'd terminate the Constitution United 3563 03:33:29,720 --> 03:33:31,640 States, praising Adolf Hitler, saying 3564 03:33:31,820 --> 03:33:34,640 Adolf Hitler did some good things. Certainly 3565 03:33:34,640 --> 03:33:37,640 falls into the general definition of fascists. 3566 03:33:37,700 --> 03:33:41,260 It's perfect to celebrate the rise of Nazis that 3567 03:33:41,260 --> 03:33:43,780 Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler back 3568 03:33:44,260 --> 03:33:46,480 home to mommy. She goes back home to mom. 3569 03:33:46,540 --> 03:33:50,620 Adam Curry: How is that casting aspersions? This is next level Q 3570 03:33:50,620 --> 03:33:51,400 anon stuff. 3571 03:33:51,880 --> 03:33:52,960 Unknown: They'll say, you know, Trump 3572 03:33:52,960 --> 03:33:55,780 supporters have set off a dirty bomb in Philadelphia. They're 3573 03:33:55,780 --> 03:33:58,300 Adam Curry: counting on us to help him win. They're counting 3574 03:33:58,300 --> 03:34:00,660 on us to propagate their clips. Vowed 3575 03:34:00,660 --> 03:34:02,700 Unknown: to be a dictator on day one. Someone 3576 03:34:02,700 --> 03:34:04,380 needs to calm her down. 3577 03:34:05,040 --> 03:34:06,480 Did not do some 3578 03:34:06,480 --> 03:34:07,620 good things now, okay, 3579 03:34:07,740 --> 03:34:08,580 John C Dvorak: you stop it there. 3580 03:34:16,620 --> 03:34:17,700 Adam Curry: The best podcast.org/n, 3581 03:34:20,160 --> 03:34:22,520 Unknown: a I am triggered. 3582 03:34:22,580 --> 03:34:23,780 I'm so triggered. I.