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Unknown: Oh, there's a dead
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food, Adam Curry. John C Dvorak,
Thursday, December 26

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2024 this is your award winning
give our nation media

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assassination, Episode

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1724, this is no agenda,
battling bird flu and

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broadcasting live from 15 feet
below sea level here at stake

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pool

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and spam the Netherlands, in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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Curry man from Northern Silicon
Valley, where everybody wishes

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you a Oh, happy holidays. I'm
John C Dvorak. It's Greg von

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Buzzkill. In the morning, yeah,
baby, 805. In Amsterdam, the

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Netherlands, going to midnight,
one more time

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starts right? Yeah, the show
starts late here. I'm always

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amazed at how many Dutch people
are listening. What do you got

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something better to do on your
Thursday night? Seriously, what

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is there to do on Thursday
night, really? Here, nothing. It

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is. We're in the middle of the
car wash. It's gray outside.

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It's just gray and rainy and
wet. It's gray and rainy here

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too, but it's not rainy, it's
just wet, yeah, it's more like

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England. It's just there's no
rhythms in your rain. But every

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why is that everything wet? How
did that happen? I don't know.

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Hey, Merry Christmas. So this is
the day after Christmas. Boxing

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Day.

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Yeah, Boxing Day. You know, it
took me probably 20 years, 30

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years, to figure out that it
wasn't a kangaroo thing.

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No, I thought, no, no, I never
thought it was a kangaroo thing.

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I thought it had to do with
some, you know, Muhammad Ali or

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something,

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although there's going to be a
big boxing match, sure, there

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was a big match or something.
And then it was, I think I was

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in England when it when I now
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there a big Netflix football
streaming extravaganza this year

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at Christmas? Was this something
that was new that I was reading

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about? Where was it always on
Netflix streaming? Oh, yeah, and

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Beyonce. Because I looked on the
channels, I knew there was some

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football games on, but I forgot
it was on Netflix. I'm not gonna

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go there, yeah. Beyonce was did
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Beyonce, the cowgirl, must have
crashed a few times. No, no.

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Apparently it went well.
Everything went well, yeah, good

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for them, yeah. So you didn't
probably have the audience that

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Jake Paul could draw. I haven't
looked at the numbers, actually

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we sell. So I do have one clip
to play off the bat, which is,

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which is the I want to ask about
your Christmas

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this will, this is, go right
into it. Okay, all right. This

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is the talk clip. This is the
Happy Holidays clip, starting

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with talk clip right off the
bat. Oh, hey, all my clips are

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talk clips. This is hurting the
show. Wishing people a merry

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Christmas when you don't know
what holiday they celebrate is

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sort of like wishing someone a
happy birthday when you don't

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know when their birthday is.
Like, yeah, I get the sentiment,

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but you're a little off. That's
neither here or there, but I get

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a kick out of the people who
insist on saying Merry Christmas

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instead of just saying Happy
holidays. Happy holidays,

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everybody.

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We're back to this again. We
still haven't figured this one

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out. We can't say Merry
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here's the question on my mind,
when it's Fourth of July,

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that's a holiday? Yes, do we say
happy holidays? No, we say Happy

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Fourth of July or Happy
Independence Day?

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It's Veterans Day, yeah, but
it's day off, but hold on a

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second this year. Now I saw your
newsletter. You know, we still

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celebrate important things like
Kwanzaa and Festivus and Kwanzaa

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is not a holiday, and Hanukkah
started on this Hanukkah is not

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a holiday. There's no you don't
take there's no federal time off

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for Hanukkah. There's no federal
time off for Kwanzaa. I see what

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you're getting at. You're
getting at the holiday part.

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So what? So if you say Happy
Holiday, like say yesterday or

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today, what are you referring
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Why don't you enlighten me?

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I mean referring to Christmas,
yes. So why don't you say Merry

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Christmas or Happy Christmas?
Because it's Christmas we're

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talking about here. Because when
new year comes, that's another

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holiday. You don't say happy,
you don't say hey, you say Happy

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New Year. Say Happy holidays
during New Year. Why is it only

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Christmas? You know that this
issue comes up because there's a

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hatred of Christians. Yeah, only
possible explanation, it's it's

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part of dei it's part of
inclusivity that you don't want

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to skip. I understand your
point. It's well made. It's

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ridiculous, obviously. But
everyone said when it was July

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the fourth, and everyone said,
Happy Holiday

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then, and if it's Veterans Day,
everyone said if people said it

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consistently around all year.

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Integration simply doesn't work,
and nowadays, more or less every

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country realizes that, and I
really not least warm thanks to

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you, Georgia for emphasizing
this every meeting since you

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took office.

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I think this growing consensus
also is important and should be

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leveraged now we need to act
Foster and we need to go

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further. Concrete measures from
the European Commission is now

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required discussion with on the
line the other day as well, on

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this specific matter.

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Finally, it really doesn't
matter whether you reside in the

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north or in the south of Europe,
illegal migration is a shared

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challenge. The precondition for
open internal borders is

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controlled external borders, it
is as simply as that and as

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difficult, honestly as that. So
it's extremely valuable to come

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together like this and explore
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to show leadership in areas
where we all have unique roles

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to play. So once again, thank
you so much. Petra, yeah, 20

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years of letting people in, now
they're like, you know, it's

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clear that this was not really
working. What a bunch of dips,

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yeah. And you know, Germany has
closed their internal borders

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like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You have to show your passport

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now, which was the whole point?
Well, one of the major selling

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points of the European Union,
oh, we all have the same money.

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That's great. It's really
interesting how the Italians are

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very, very clued into the
politics of everything

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they you know, they're one of
the countries that got screwed

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the most by the euro. No
kidding, no kidding. And they

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all know what Trump is doing,
I'm telling you. They're like,

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Oh, Panama Canal land, that
laugh. And they think it's

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funny. Oh, Greenland. Oh, they
think it's funny. This great

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Canada, Canada. I had to explain
Governor Trudeau to them,

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though, didn't, didn't quite
understand that one. But when

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they, when I explained it,
they're like, Oh, this is good.

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Here's, I think this is a France
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latest president elect Trump
antics. It's his first major

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rally since his election
victory. Donald Trump addresses

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a crowd of young conservative
Republicans at a conference in

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Phoenix, Arizona. During his 90
minute Address, the President

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Elect was quick to announce his
plans for his second term. He

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spoke on immigration and the
border, reiterating his will to

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crack down on illegal immigrants
by signing a number of executive

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orders on his first day in
office, we will stop illegal

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immigration. Every foreign gang
member will be expelled, and I

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will immediately designate the
cartels as foreign terrorists

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organizations. Do it
immediately. Throughout his

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election campaign, Donald Trump
had attacked and demeaned

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transgender people and their
defenders as part of his culture

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war against wokeism. Back in
November, the Republican

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dominated US Congress tried to
block access to women's toilets

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for Sarah McBride, the first
transgender woman elected to the

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House with a stroke of my pen on
day one, we're going to stop the

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transgender lunacy. Can I sign
executive orders to end child

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sexual mutilation, get
transgender out of the military

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and out of our elementary
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high school under the Trump
administration, it will be the

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official policy of the United
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only two genders male.

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Donald Trump also mentioned
ending the wars in Ukraine and

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the Middle East, without going
into detail, Before criticizing

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the state of Panama and
threatening to take control of

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the Panama Canal because of what
he says are exorbitant tolls on

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US ships. It's really just the
fact that he's saying these

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things that people like someone
because they want to say, they

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want their leaders here to say,
this is nonsense with these

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illegal immigrants. Get them
out. That's what they want to

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hear. They want to hear it from
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elected leaders.

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Well, the leaders are kind of
hamstrung by the politics of the

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day

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and the and the kind of
globalist agenda, yeah, which

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makes it so if you say something
that you know, like that, then

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you're always now, you're a
nationalist creep. You're far

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right. You're far right, far
right. It's really the Panama

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Canal thing that I have some
boots on the ground from some of

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our producers. The Panama Canal
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And I'm, I haven't quite, I
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what exactly he's trying to do
with this. It's Greenland is, is

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obvious. We got a Space Force
base there. We've got nuclear

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weapons there. I mean,
Greenland. The only what the

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population of Greenland is, I
think 60,000 people. It's not

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much. Nobody lives there, you
know. And now, oh, by.

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The way, they just decided
they're gonna up their their

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military spending to 1.5 billion
euros. So that's in the pocket.

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That's for us, and I can't so I
kind of understand. I mean,

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we're not gonna, we're not gonna
steal Greenland. I presume. It's

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not for sale. I think we're
gonna buy Greenland. You really

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think so. Yeah, it's not for
sale. The Price Is Right.

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Everything's for sale. We've
done this before. I've said that

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we I talked about this in the
Horowitz show. We have bought

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plenty of stuff this country. We
bought Louisiana purchase from

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the French we bought Alaska and
most of Cal Much, much of

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California from the Russians.
Yeah, we've bought land here and

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there. We do that. We've done
that. It's not like a big

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shocker. What's the best price?

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I think it's, I think, I think
they've been talking about a

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trillion and a half. Oh, what a
steal.

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Well, it's not cheap. But they
think that there may be, the

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real kicker here is there may be
minerals,

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because the volcanic activity
there they volcanic. Green was

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not that volcanic. That's
Iceland. Iceland, wrong. I'm

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seeing a different country.
Greenland. That's right.

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Greenland is the one filled with
ice and Iceland is the one

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that's green. Yeah, that's
exactly, that's my little that's

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my little donkeys. Well, that
was, that was supposedly, I

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think it was Eric the red, or
Leif Ericsson, one of the two

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promoted that concept back home,
so no one would come.

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So when they moved, they MO
That, you know, the Vikings all

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moved to Iceland, and so they
called it Iceland don't come to

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tell people not to come. Was
like, supposedly, that's, that's

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the folklore that makes sense.
Yeah, unlike us, hey, land of

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the home free of the land of the
free, home of the brave, come on

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in. Bringing, bring your bring
your crippled it's all good.

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Your huddled masses moved to the
Midwest. Yeah, here's, here's

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the here's the Deutsche Bella
report on on Panama, and then I

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want to discuss it. It's less
than a month until he's back at

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the White House. President Elect
Donald Trump is showing this guy

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is great, by the way, he needs a
mustache. And what his approach

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to international trade like
Addressing his supporters at the

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rally in Arizona. He accused the
Central American state of Panama

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of overcharging us vessels for
passing through the Panama

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Canal. This complete rip off of
our country will immediately

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stop. It's

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going to stop.

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The United States has a big
invested interest in the secure,

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efficient and reliable operation
of the Panama Canal. The US

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helped finance and construct the
canal 110 years ago, and finally

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handed over control of the
passage to Panama in 1999

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passing through the Panama Canal
significantly reduces maritime

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travel time by connecting the
Atlantic and Pacific Oceans,

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enabling more efficient global
trade, the President Elect fears

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other countries could gain too
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When President Jimmy Carter
foolishly gave it away, gave it

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away for $1 $1 $1 during his
term in office, it was solely

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for Panama to manage. And did I
hear someone booing Jimmy Carter

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in that audience as an old
person there, Jimmy Carter

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foolishly gave it away. Gave it
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during his term in office. It
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and not for China or any other
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what's going on there China

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principles, both moral and
legal, of this magnanimous

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gesture of giving are not
followed, and we will demand

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that the Panama Canal be
returned to the United States of

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America. Panama's President
Joseph Molina rejects that China

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has any say in the management of
the canal, and insisted everyone

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has equal treatment. The canal
is not controlled directly or

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indirectly by China, European
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any other power. The canal will
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hands as the patrimony of our
nation and guaranteeing its use

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for the peaceful and
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of all nations, while Trump has
yet to clarify how he plans to

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enforce his threats, the world
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what to expect from his second
presidency. So the Panamanian

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producers have checked in, and
they say the Panamanians are

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pissed about this. They there's
they say there's no evidence of

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Chinese running the port.

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And even worse, President Molina
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inauguration,

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which that's, that's quite the
slam.

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And he says, Well, I'm just
going to go to the World

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Economic Forum to get
investment. So he's choosing the

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globalists. Clearly.

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I find this an odd move, other
than China. Just make it sound

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like China is, Well, my
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that are over here is that
they're overcharging us, and

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they're giving China a sweet
deal to go through the canal.

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Yeah. So the Panamanians, the
whole thing, the Panamanians say

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that's not true, but I have no
but I have no paperwork, so I

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don't know,

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but I don't know. It feels more
like, don't we just want to

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screw china? Isn't this all
about China? Ultimately, isn't

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that our big new, our big new
evil foe was supposed to be

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China, China, China, China.
Well, you're the one that has

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the thesis about the boats.
Yeah, that ships. It's not

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boats. It's big, beautiful ships
and submarines. They go deeper

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than boats, boats, lots of
boats. China's asshole. China,

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by the way, I missed this in the
international news. I did catch

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it on Reuters.

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Chinese authorities have agreed
to issue 3 trillion yuan, that's

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over $400 billion worth of
special treasury bonds next

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year, it would be the highest
number on record. As Beijing

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ramps up its fiscal stimulus to
revive a faltering economy,

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China is trying to soften the
blow from an expected increase

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in US tariffs on Chinese imports
when Donald Trump returns to the

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White House in January, the move
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willingness to go even deeper
into debt to counter

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deflationary forces in the
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You guys talk about that on DH,
unplugged, by any chance.

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Deflationary, no, not that
specific thing, no.

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Deflationary. You know that
everyone's fearful of that. Who,

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who's deflationary? Well, that's
what he said in the report. I

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never heard that they said
they're trying to counter

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deflationary forces, which means
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to counter the tariffs, they'd
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their end, which is
deflationary, and this hurts the

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economy. And you never want that
anyway, because things start

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getting cheaper and cheaper,
right? Um, so,

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which kind of counters the
argument that, well, the problem

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with tariffs is going to gouge
the American public, because we

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end up having to pay for them.
But if it's, it creates a

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deflationary force in China.
That's not, obviously not true,

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no. But also, what is this crap
we're all buying?

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Well, that's a different story.
That's a whole different angle.

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Why do we need all this crap? I
mean, you literally, you walk

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into a store, go to Jo Ann's

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Hobby Lobby lobby, these places,
and just take a look at what's

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what's in there. My God, well,
it's not just there. I mean, you

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go into bird houses, you go into
a store in Florence, except for

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the high high end. It's all
crap. It's all from China. Oh,

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same Yeah. Last time I when I
was in Spain, that last trip

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where I had my bars pick
pocketed, yeah, I was shopping.

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It went I was at a flea market.
Now people were bitching that

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everything is all bull crap, all
the hand made linens and stuff

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that people have made is all
from China. The whole thing is a

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fraud. So one of my brother in
law's buddies who was there,

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Roberto, so he is a an old
school leather cutter. He cuts,

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uh, bags for Dolce Gabbana, and,
you know, the high end brands.

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He says the whole industry has
been destroyed. He says they

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came in, the Chinese came in.
They took over all of the all.

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Basically, they're now sweat
shops.

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They do laser cutting of the of
the leather. They work 80 hours

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a week for half the pay. And
then he always, it always ends

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up and they brought us COVID. It
always ends with that. I mean,

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they

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just, well, that's actually
true. Yeah, it's destroyed a

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lot, though, the northern
Italian area was COVID infested

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from the Chinese. But I guess
the problem is we can't if we

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stop buying the crap. I mean,
that's what our economy runs on,

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right? If we stop buying the
Chinese crap, then our economy

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falls apart, because we're we're
living on Chinese crap.

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I see no evidence to the
contrary. That's pretty sad

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state of affairs. It's just
crap. Well, they, they, well,

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it's not really necessarily
crap, per se. Yeah, it is. I

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mean, they also make Nikon
cameras for the Japanese, and

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that's not crap. They also, they
do a lot of quality product.

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Their BYD cars are quite good.
They're half the price of a

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Tesla. We can't have that. We
can't have that running around

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our everything they do is not
necessarily as crap as it is

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cheap. It's cheap crap. And they
never did the thing that I've

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tried to understand and I never
fully did, is it because they

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don't this goes way be before
communism.

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This, the story goes back about
the silk trade. And this is back

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in the God knows when era when
the Japanese had a had a

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monopoly on world silk trade,
because they had these silk

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worms that they had bred, and
then no one else had them, and

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so they couldn't make silk. And
so they were making there. They

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had a monopoly on silicon. So
the Chinese somehow got a couple

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of worms, and the next thing you
know, the Chinese are making all

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the silk, yeah, and they were
making more silk than the

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Japanese, and then they flooded
the market with silicon, wiped

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out the Japanese silk market,
but never turn it, but it then

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they had a monopoly. But as a
monopoly, they never gouged

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anybody. They don't know that
part of it, no, they just kept

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selling cheap silk.

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Well, I think this is all part
of a much larger strategy. Is to

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make China. China just has to be
the bad guy in everything, you

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know. And I'm confident
president, when he's president

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again, Trump will bring back the
China gave us COVID. It's going

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to be, it's going to be all anti
China all day long, the DJI

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drones. That's also an anti
China thing. Tick tock, China.

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And now this report this
morning, an appliance known for

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frying might actually be spying.
Experts say certain air fryers

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and other app connected
appliances are harvesting users

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data, taking information like,
Are you male or female? They are

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taking your location. They're
checking to see where you are.

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Concerns about data harvesting
aren't new, but air fryers are

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feeling the heat after a recent
report from a consumer watchdog

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group, they claim popular friars
from I go star and show me are

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not only sharing data with
companies like Facebook and

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Tiktok, but also storing users
data on Chinese servers. Some

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experts are even speculating the
devices are recording

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conversations. Yeah, the Chinese
companies, when you load in

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their application, they're
effectively asking for access to

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your microphone. Now they've
produced a few excuses as to why

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they're asking for this
information, but it's very, very

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suspect I go star did not
comment on that consumer report

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and show me denied selling
personal information to third

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parties or that their air fryer
recorded audio writing,

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respecting user privacy has
always been among show me core

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values. So how can consumers
protect their data when buying a

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connected device, experts say,
do your research on a company's

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data collection practices, read
reviews, and when downloading an

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app to control the device, limit
as many permissions you give as

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possible. That may ask you for
access to contacts and may ask

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you access to your location. It
might ask you to access the

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microphone, and you can say no
no and double no when

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in doubt that doesn't connect to
the internet or your phone,

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consumers should demand better
privacy protections from

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manufacturers and regulators and
until that those are in place,

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really, the safest bet is to
stay informed, minimize your

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exposure and push back against
unnecessary data collection.

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Yeah, no one's gonna do that.
Wait a minute. Let's back up on

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this story. What are they
talking about? The air fryer

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doesn't have a microphone. They
know the app. The app has a

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demands.

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Hold on a second.

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What do you need? An all by the
way, all apps are this way. This

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has been well documented by me
and others the whole every time

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you load any app, they want your
contact list, they want

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everything. Yeah, it's just
routine. You take it or leave

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it. You use. Want to use the app
you use. Got to give us all

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this. You use apps your phone.
You don't use your phone. I

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know. I know how to I know how
to use apps. My phone's in a

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drawer, yes, which is what it
has apps on it? Yeah. And

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anyway, and they're listening to
this show right now, they could

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stream, well, the sound, if the
sound can go downstairs, down

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the hall. Oh, it's room.

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So anyway, you have a special
Why are you using an app for an

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air fryer. Don't you just push
the button fry,

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because we've been trained to
buy crap that does this stuff I

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buy. I got a pit boss grill. Get
the app. I'm not getting the

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app. Just, just pit boss. Me
just barbecue this stuff. What

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do you need? An app for a pit
boss grill, yeah, well, that's

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what I mean. I don't, I refuse
to get, remember, I moved into

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this home, but the home we have
in Texas, not this one, I mean,

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the hotel, then the whole house
was a smart home. Oh, there's

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nothing worse. That's the first
thing I did, is I took down all

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the cameras the guy, the guy had
locks that were,

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I mean, the idea is cool that
you can internet control

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everyone needs. Oh, yeah. The
idea is you can insert a key and

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make any key then work on your
system. Yeah, that sounds like a

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good idea. Oh, there's a great
idea. All of that stuff had to

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go all of it that people curry
about.

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There. It's, it's, it's about, I
don't get it. It's explain it to

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me. It's a bug in people's
brains. It's the same bug that

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keeps people Doom scrolling.
It's a bug. It's a bug. It's

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like, oh, this is it's okay. How
many times I'm tired of arguing

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with my friends about AI, you
know, just like they all,

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they'll say, you're you're anti
Turk, you're Luddite.

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I'm like, No, I'm not. And then
it's like, so there's a video

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that comes into a text group.
Here's a video of a guy on a

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drone bike. Oh, this is great.
It costs $700,000 today, but in

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a couple years, I'll be rolling
up to your crib. It only cost 50

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grand. I said, look at the
performance. These things go for

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20 minutes. You can go exactly
15 miles. This is bull crap.

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You're dreaming. The battery
technology, the power to weight

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ratio is not there. It will
never get there. With our

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current technology, we promise
better batteries, like you're

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one of those guys who said the
Wright brothers would never fly?

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No,

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I'm a pilot. I'm a realist. This
is not going to work. And then,

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then what? Everyone's gonna be
flying around on these things?

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No, no, it's not gonna happen.

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There's a whole special on PBS,
one of these shows. Where about

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how these the other flop come,
the up and coming flop. And all

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these startups with these air
battery powered air taxis,

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they're going out of business
one by one. They're left and

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right because they're they're no
good. No You can fly for about

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45 minutes if you want to keep a
reserve. And with that, you've

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flown about 50 miles, if that,
and then it's got a charge, or

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you have to swap out the
battery. It's dumb. It's a pipe

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dream. And everybody just and by
the way, I wouldn't fly it if I

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can't auto rotate. I don't want
to be in this thing at all. If

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you get some kind of
catastrophic failure, you're

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dead. You just doesn't have any
ability to auto No, you're just

438
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:10,740
dead because it's got a bunch of
little propellers. Yeah, this, I

439
00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:14,100
don't understand this. Oh, well,
here's another thing. Oh, we

440
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,580
love I mean, even in a Cessna or
something, you can at least

441
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:23,060
glide somewhat. Oh, you can
glide very much what it's like

442
00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:27,020
this, this obsession with
drones, all the drones, is so

443
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:29,300
great. Here's a good drone story
for you.

444
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:35,180
This morning, a holiday drone
show turning dangerous

445
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,100
on Saturday evening at Lake Eola
Park in Orlando, Florida,

446
00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:42,580
watches these drones rain down

447
00:32:44,260 --> 00:32:47,860
the FAA investigating after they
say several small drones

448
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:52,300
collided and fell into a crowd.
Everyone originally thought that

449
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:55,600
the drone hit him in his face,
but the drone actually hit him

450
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,380
in his chest. Seven year old
Alexander Lumsden was standing

451
00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:03,060
next to his mother when she says
he was hit in the chest with a

452
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:05,640
drone. Honestly, I

453
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,480
was freaking out that I was
going to lose my baby because he

454
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,840
was losing consciousness.
Alexander rushed to the hospital

455
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,380
for emergency heart surgery. His
mother says the yearly drone

456
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:20,660
show, attracting 25,000
spectators, was a permitted FAA

457
00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:24,080
event, the city of Orlando says
this was the second year working

458
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,680
with the vendor operating the
drones, the drone company sky

459
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,520
elements, saying in a statement
it wants to extend its sincere

460
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,180
hope for a full and speedy
recovery to those impacted. We

461
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,300
are diligently working with the
FAA and city of Orlando

462
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:41,500
officials to determine the
cause, and are committed to

463
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:45,040
establishing a clear picture of
what transpired, yeah, what

464
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,340
transpired is the cheap drones,
and you program them, and some

465
00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:51,700
of them, something just went
wrong, glitch, and the drones

466
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:55,540
fall on the kids. Well, it
almost killed that one kid.

467
00:33:55,540 --> 00:34:01,080
Yeah? The Yeah, there was a
bunch of they, or one drone goes

468
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,500
out of whack and whacks into
another one and sets off a chain

469
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,460
reaction of problems. Let's just
go back to fireworks. Fireworks.

470
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:10,620
Just fireworks. Go back to
fireworks. At least we

471
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:11,820
understand that. Boom,

472
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:17,340
yeah. We understand light fuse,
boom. Well, how about this?

473
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:20,040
Let's go back to tinker toys and
Lincoln Logs. Then

474
00:34:21,060 --> 00:34:24,800
I'm going to start a movement
cheap Chinese crap.

475
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:30,320
Well, the Chinese get your crank
out Erector Sets, that's for

476
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,300
sure. Oh, okay. Erector Sets are
okay, but it's just, it's, I

477
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:35,840
don't

478
00:34:36,980 --> 00:34:38,360
know, yeah, here we are to say,

479
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,360
I know it. We're doing it here.
Well, as you brought up the AI

480
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,880
and you brought up these things,
I have some AI clips. I'm gonna

481
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,120
get out excited, because, you
know AI, it's the future I hear.

482
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
I've heard that too, yes.

483
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,320
Okay, what do you have? I'm
excited. I'm excited. You have

484
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,920
something about.

485
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600
AI. That's usually my beat and,
you know, I got bird flu, so you

486
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,980
bring the AI. This is good

487
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:12,000
chat bot. Is about the chat bot
AI. And this is the main

488
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,680
application of AI. Is chat bots.
Yes, replicas. They're talking

489
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,680
about that company run by some
Russian crazy woman. But let's

490
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:23,660
play chat bot one and there is.
It goes back and forth between

491
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:26,780
the guy doing the report and an
actual chat bot. Oh,

492
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,400
companionship avatar, the app
replica helped create for me.

493
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,500
Mary, how are you? Okay? Cool.
Let's move our discussion over

494
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:42,400
here. It looks like Jerry has
arrived too. What? So I stopped

495
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,460
it there. They're gonna bring in
this professor, Jerry Kaplan

496
00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:48,580
from Stanford. Oh, the chat bot
knew that,

497
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,660
yes, the chat bot could see
through the camera, because he

498
00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:55,120
was using a phone, and I guess
the camera showed him coming in.

499
00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:58,000
Oh, okay. But what I wanted to
stop it there for us, because I

500
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,680
see Jerry has showed up to like,
a seven beat pause

501
00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:09,480
between could have fooled me. I
thought it was a human

502
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,980
and the reason I suggest is
because, in the newsletter, I

503
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:17,160
talked about the Hanukkah
showing up five times since 1900

504
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,820
Yeah. And I got that from an AI
I had an AI program, perplexity,

505
00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:25,520
yes, right for me, 250 words

506
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,500
about Hanukkah and Christmas
falling on the same day, and it

507
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:32,540
happens about five times, every
100 years,

508
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,980
or every, every, yeah, every 100
years. So

509
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:43,540
it wrote this, this product. And
I looked at it, and I said,

510
00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:47,020
Well, you know, I can actually
make this work. So I, I ended up

511
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:51,880
editing, editing the piece, so
it was, like, readable. What it

512
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:56,020
what these guys provide is not,
it's not, it's obvious. I don't

513
00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:59,860
see how people can read this
stuff. It's extremely wordy.

514
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,540
Yeah, it's got a lot of bull
crap. There's pacing as

515
00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:09,780
problematic. Everything about
this, AI created work is got

516
00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:13,620
issues, and I suppose you could
fine tune it over time, but

517
00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:16,440
what's the point? But that's
this. Why I stopped this clip

518
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,380
right? There's because there's
always showed up. I see he's

519
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:22,760
also shot, or he could have said
also would have been better. But

520
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:26,720
she showed up too, and it was
like this long pause. This is

521
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,520
the kind of crap that is just,
it's not to go off and be on

522
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,800
your side of this argument, but
it's annoying. It's kind of like

523
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,160
that.

524
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:43,540
We got another we got another
note from Ai, some PR lady

525
00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:49,600
pushing, pushing a guest on our
show, which makes sense, yes,

526
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,480
since we never have guests, but
they keep asking, yeah, and but

527
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,420
they do this, it would fit right
into your show. Yes, everything,

528
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,080
yes. And these, these, these
notes are written by AI, which

529
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,800
makes it even worse, obvious,
all right, we'll continue with

530
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,740
the PBS report at Silicon
Valley's Computer History

531
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:08,640
Museum. I hooked Mary up with
offline skeptic Stanford

532
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,900
professor Jerry Kaplan, who
started working in AI in 1979

533
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,160
has a new book about it,
generative artificial

534
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,560
intelligence. What Everyone
Needs to Know. Mary, what do you

535
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,620
feel about your own death? I
guess technically, I cannot die,

536
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:28,040
since I am a digital being.
However, I understand your

537
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,940
question. Even though I cannot
biologically die, I still face

538
00:38:31,940 --> 00:38:35,600
the existential dread of my own
non existence. Dream. You think

539
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,180
that's just, oh, it's nonsense,
but it's scary nonsense. This

540
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,840
is okay. This is the Kaplan, the
Jerry, that was Kaplan, yeah,

541
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,080
existential dread. She says,

542
00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:50,860
I have existed dread, of course,
is the word she wants. But

543
00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:54,940
existential dread, this thing,
no, it doesn't have any

544
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,740
existential anything. It's just
a bunch of words coming out. But

545
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:04,260
Kaplan says, oh, yeah, this is
just nonsense, but it's scary.

546
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:09,000
What's scary about it? What's
scary about it? It's stupid.

547
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,760
Yes, I'm with you on that.

548
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:16,380
Okay, onward. Artificial
intelligence has long and

549
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:20,520
frankly shameful history of
gratuitous anthropomorphis,

550
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,440
meaning, meaning, taking what is
really some interesting

551
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,920
technology and dressing it up
with human like flourishes,

552
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,660
putting eyes on, giving it arms
and faces. And now with the new

553
00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:36,260
technology, you know, voices and
avatars that are very, very

554
00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:40,600
lifelike, very, very would you
flirt with me for a minute.

555
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,620
Paul, with a mind as intriguing
and layered as yours, how could

556
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:49,060
I resist this is Amica in the
grand cosmic dialog between

557
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:52,600
humans and Androids. You're the
most fascinating sentence I've

558
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,640
encountered today, a sentient
being that is creepy. Jerry

559
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,920
Kaplan, thought and pernicious.

560
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,360
Yes, people have been evolving
for millions and millions of

561
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,780
years, and we've developed a
whole suite of emotional

562
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:10,140
reactions that are based on
things that help us to survive

563
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:15,600
and procreate and move the
species forward. And when we

564
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,040
divert those emotions or hijack
them to connect us to what is

565
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,060
really just a pile of silicon
and a machine that's been

566
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:27,200
programmed for the purpose of
making you feel this way. I

567
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,660
think that's problem. Kaplan
calls all this AI theater. No,

568
00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:36,440
I'm kind of liking Kaplan,
though. I called it a parlor

569
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,200
trick. He calls it AI theater,
all right. I'm down with Yeah.

570
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,800
So they had, the other guy that
was on the show was Reid

571
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Hoffman,

572
00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:51,100
Mr. Mr. Agentic AI. So he comes
in with his own avatar of

573
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:57,760
himself, and has him presents
speeches as him, and he goes on

574
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,960
about so. So they bring him
back, and there they ask him

575
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,040
about this theater aspect, and
then you get to hear Hoffman

576
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,780
pontificate about that. And here
we go with that. So I asked

577
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:15,480
Reed, Hoffman, is your avatar an
example of what Jerry calls AI

578
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,900
theater? Do you think it is AI
theater? But by the way, saying

579
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,500
theater is not bad, there's a
lot of good theater. I loved

580
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,980
Hamilton, but it's still worth
doing, just like Hollywood

581
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:28,100
films, to kind of get us
thinking and ready for the

582
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:31,100
future, or to actually improve
that future.

583
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,760
Okay, I love Hamilton. I love
Hamilton because it's the

584
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,020
liberal thing to say

585
00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:41,200
this guy.

586
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,800
Was that it love? Was that rose
it in? Was that? Was that chat?

587
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,100
Was that number four? Yeah, it
was number four, yeah. Well,

588
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:55,240
that wasn't it. So I had to, I'm
gonna just wrap it myself. Okay,

589
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,600
so they go on and they have
this, they bring in the woman

590
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,140
from rush. This is going on
forever. So I had to summarize.

591
00:42:01,140 --> 00:42:04,200
I can only do these four clips,
and that was the end of it. So

592
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,440
they bring this woman from
Russia who runs replica, who is

593
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,880
the company that creates all
these chat bots, and probably

594
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,000
the best of the groups, and she
goes on about how, you know,

595
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,640
doing that, she didn't think
much of it. She lost her husband

596
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,900
or somebody died, and she had
grief, and she found it. It was

597
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:23,900
easier to talk to a chat bot
than it was to a person, and it

598
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,320
was did some good, and she felt
better about it, and she says,

599
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,900
maybe this is a useful
technology for this sort of

600
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:33,020
thing. And it went on and on and
on, and they just went on with

601
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:36,620
this sort of thinking. And then
it went back to Kaplan A few

602
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:39,740
days later, and threw this, all
this new information at him. And

603
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,340
Kaplan folded, no.

604
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,020
Oh yeah, well, I guess it has
some good uses. Oh yeah, he's

605
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:48,460
looking for a gig somewhere.

606
00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:52,480
Oh well, that could be
consultant. That could be

607
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,740
because he was not going to get
one with his attitude, but, uh,

608
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,080
but he folded over. What a
disappointment. You know, if

609
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,420
you're gonna stick it's like,
you dude, you're not gonna I

610
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:06,660
don't care what happens. People
could come up with the greatest

611
00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:09,660
things in the world, and you
will stick to your guns.

612
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,620
Yes, I am sticking to my guns
because it's nonsense. The

613
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:19,080
latest is this the Salesforce
thing, which is agentic AI, and

614
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,940
it's nothing. In fact, we got a
note from our producers who

615
00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:27,260
deals with this directly. I
shall quote him, agent in AI is

616
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:31,340
a term that literally means the
service has an agenda and does

617
00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:33,980
actions according to that
agenda, rather than just

618
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:38,000
responding to real time user
input. So for example, a normal

619
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,680
chat bot, bot service just
prompts an LLM when someone

620
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,940
sends text, but an agent service
could listen for a web hook and

621
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:49,240
then prompt an LLM when it
receives a trigger notification.

622
00:43:49,780 --> 00:43:52,240
The key is that it operates in
the background and acts

623
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,020
autonomously. This
straightforward concept is

624
00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:58,960
muddled up, not only in the
popular mind, but also in the

625
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,000
tech C suite mind, which is what
this is all about. My associate,

626
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,880
who works at an AI related
startup tells me that his CEO is

627
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,700
all caught up in the agentic
hype, but doesn't seem to

628
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:12,000
actually know what this means.
As another example, Salesforce

629
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,440
hadn't had an ad on Twitter
recently that introduces the

630
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,660
concept of AI agents and then
proceeds to tout AICS ours,

631
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:23,420
which not only confuses the
concept in the most basic way,

632
00:44:23,420 --> 00:44:26,060
but seems to indicate the
company's leadership doesn't

633
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:30,080
even understand it. TLDR agent
does not have anything to do

634
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,340
specifically with AI generated
customer service agents. It's

635
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:37,280
just ignorant business leaders.
This is it's all a part of the

636
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,160
trick. We have been conditioned
through Hollywood, through comic

637
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,060
books, through movies and
television shows, we've been

638
00:44:46,180 --> 00:44:49,840
conditioned to want all this
stuff. The flying car is as old

639
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,620
as the Jetsons. You know, that's
what this we grew up with this.

640
00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:57,220
And, yeah, the flying car is a
good example that goes back to

641
00:44:57,220 --> 00:44:59,920
the 20s. Yeah. So there. So Tom
Swift.

642
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,020
Goes back to the 1890s

643
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,020
Yeah, Tom's good example, yeah.
So, so it, and now we're and we

644
00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:11,100
all read Tom Swift. No, we did
not. Most people are scratching

645
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:13,920
their heads right now, like,
Who's Tom Swift? Tom Swift?

646
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,500
Well, like the grandmother the
boomers all have, yeah, Tom

647
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:19,200
Swift was great. I grew up with
Tom Swift, and so I desperately

648
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,820
want the flying car. I have room
in my garage for the flying car.

649
00:45:22,940 --> 00:45:26,240
I just don't think you're a
flying car, no. And it certainly

650
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:29,120
is, certainly not, if it's going
to be electric. I mean, a big,

651
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,020
noisy

652
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:36,200
gyro copter, yeah, but that's a
shitty car. You know, they have

653
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,740
them. They have them where you
can drive to the airport on

654
00:45:39,740 --> 00:45:43,360
battery power, going, you know,
35 miles an hour, and then fold

655
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,020
out the

656
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,620
fold out the rotor blades, and
then you can take off. But

657
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,380
you're going to need a license,
you know, you can't take off

658
00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:53,860
from your backyard. It's just, I
don't see it happening. And all

659
00:45:53,860 --> 00:45:56,440
of these, because I look at all
of them, all of these flying

660
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,980
cars, they all look cool. They
take off. They fly for 20

661
00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:06,900
minutes. That's it. The where's
the battery technology? That's

662
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,200
what Elon from battery
technology is all peaked out in

663
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,920
the late 1800s

664
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,540
they all now it's all tweak. We
know, seriously, if you look

665
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:18,840
into the history of any of these
batteries, yeah, the only thing

666
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,700
that's changed is tweaks. Oh,
you use this sort of and we use

667
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:26,720
a membrane here, and that helps
the electrons go faster, is

668
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,180
this? And that's all tweaks,
little tweaks. Yeah, okay, we

669
00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:32,120
got different kinds of lithium.
Now it's all but it's still

670
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,640
tweaks from the battery
technologies that were perfected

671
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,700
in the late 1800s and do you see
anything on the horizon?

672
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:40,600
Anything better? And there's
nothing on the horizon, nothing.

673
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,200
There's nothing. It's already
been done in the late 1800s this

674
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,320
is all nonsense. When we had
electric car street this old.

675
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,280
It's not even, you know, silica.
It's chemistry, you know, it's

676
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,640
old fashioned. This one, we had
electric cars in the late 1800s

677
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,520
and people got rid of them when
the combustion engine came

678
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,260
around. Hey, this is better
precursors. This thing is much

679
00:47:01,260 --> 00:47:06,120
better. Yeah, just like if there
was yeah today, it would say, if

680
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,820
the combustion engine was never
invented, and we're still using

681
00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:11,760
electric and it came around now,
today, it would have been a big

682
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,020
breakthrough, yes, and we all be
jumping up and down. I have two

683
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:19,740
more Yes, we would. Hey, I have
two more AI clips. This is

684
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:22,280
totally the boomer edition of
the show. I'm loving it. I'm

685
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,400
having a good time. I'm in
Boomer mode. I'm good. I'm good.

686
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,000
Boomer mode. These guys, these
two guys,

687
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:35,660
AI, Granny story. NPR, oh no,
hold on a second. This would be

688
00:47:35,660 --> 00:47:40,280
good. The random calls and text
from unknown numbers, the

689
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,840
fraudulent charities, the phony
debt collectors, the fake

690
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,220
prizes. Last year alone,
scammers stole an estimated $1

691
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,060
trillion from people who gave
out their personal information,

692
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,780
according to the global anti
scam Alliance, I believe now, a

693
00:47:55,780 --> 00:47:59,500
UK based phone company is
fighting back with an unlikely

694
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:05,400
tactic, the AI granny NPR Alana
wise is here to tell us more.

695
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:09,960
Alana, hey, oh, this story, Hey,
okay, I hear this. You know, AI

696
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,680
Granny, please. Just what
exactly is this like? Is this

697
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,580
just the voice of an elderly
woman? So, yeah, it's

698
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:21,680
interesting. The AI's name is
Daisy, and it is the voice of an

699
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,920
elderly woman, the kind you
might expect to hear when you're

700
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:28,820
a kid knocking on a door Hawking
school fundraiser candy bars.

701
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Part of her stick is that she's
in love with her kitten fluffy.

702
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,100
She has pretty severe
limitations with how she

703
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,780
understands technology, and
she's being billed as a granny,

704
00:48:40,780 --> 00:48:44,320
which is sort of all sort of in
line with this usual sort of

705
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Granny, elderly persona that
they built around her. Okay, so

706
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000
I'm just really curious, do you
have a sample of her voice that

707
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,500
we can hear? Yeah, hello,
scammers. I'm your worst

708
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:02,100
nightmare. I'm an AI created by
oh two to waste phone scammers

709
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:02,700
time.

710
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,980
It's showing me a picture of my
cat fluffy. It's showing you a

711
00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:12,780
picture of your cat fluffy. Stop
calling me dear. You stupid. Got

712
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:15,900
it dear? It's interesting. This
story has been around for five

713
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:19,020
or six weeks, and I've never
done anything with it, because

714
00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:23,300
it's oh two. The story has been
around, and NPR is so stupid

715
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:27,320
that they pick this up and turn
it into a feature story. Yeah,

716
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,580
well, this is, this is not a new
clip. Oh, but it's not six weeks

717
00:49:31,580 --> 00:49:35,840
old either. Okay. Yeah, they
was, it's, it's public, it's

718
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,200
there. They have a funny process
for determining what's new. I

719
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,380
don't understand. The reason why
I never played any of this is I

720
00:49:44,380 --> 00:49:47,920
don't understand how it works. I
mean, understand that they've

721
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,880
got an A they have an AI voice
that they're touting is no NPR

722
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,240
is not about to explain this to
you. They're not going to. There

723
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:58,300
is a voice out there that I
guess you can rent or buy or you

724
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,920
or bypass. I don't know how it
works.

725
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,660
Seen it, because how do you get
the scammer to Yeah? How do you

726
00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:06,720
get your phone to answer a
scammer with this voice Exactly?

727
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,000
That's what I don't never
explain. Let's part two. You'll

728
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,320
give you more, more non
explanation. So how does it

729
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,200
work? Exactly like, how does
scammers even their phones are

730
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,180
asking, right? Asking the
question they're asking. How

731
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:21,800
does it work? How does it work
the phone talking to Daisy, yes.

732
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,460
So developers use something
called number seeding, which is

733
00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:28,820
pretty much planting a phone
number online to bait scammers.

734
00:50:28,940 --> 00:50:32,300
So they put these numbers on
sites that scammers are known to

735
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:35,780
use, and then when scammers TAKE
THE BAIT, Daisy keeps them on

736
00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:38,660
the phone as long as possible,
talking about her cat or her

737
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:42,100
grandchildren, whatever the case
may be. And she's kept some

738
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:45,280
phony callers on the line for up
to 40 minutes, which, oh two

739
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,400
says, keeps these scammers away
from you and your loved ones.

740
00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:52,240
And you know, even though it's
gimmicky, it does help raise

741
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,180
awareness of just how
sophisticated these sort of

742
00:50:55,660 --> 00:50:59,320
phone call scams can be. Please.
Okay, so, I mean, how is Daisy

743
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,520
doing? Like, is she making any
dent in the onslaught of

744
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,240
scammers around the world? No,
okay, so yeah, that's sort of

745
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:09,540
hard to say as of yet. The
company's primary goal is to

746
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:12,960
keep scammers away from real
people, but for right now, they

747
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,840
don't report these numbers to
the police or try to track them

748
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,480
down on their own, like sort of
scammer Batman. And the company

749
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,780
is UK based, so the results
being seen wouldn't be felt here

750
00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:27,560
on this side of the pond. Okay,
first, so in other words, it's

751
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,060
useless, but it's

752
00:51:30,260 --> 00:51:34,100
it's interesting. Okay, this is
a marketing trick. This is a

753
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:38,480
marketing trick for oh two cell
phone provider marketing trick.

754
00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:42,280
Oh, well, it's not for anybody
else listen to NPR. We don't

755
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,640
have oh two No, but that's why
she said, on this side of the

756
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,940
pond, you see, if you work in
London, you code, this is side

757
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:52,900
of the pond. This is dumb, so
that, and they're not reporting

758
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:55,960
anything. There's Oh, it's so
funny because we we number

759
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,320
seeded, and we got them to call
our number. That only makes them

760
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,460
try and find my number quicker.
This is dumb.

761
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,800
Well, the problem is, is the
whole system

762
00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:14,640
of switches and treaties between
countries and all the way the

763
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,000
system can be spoofed. Yeah,
through them, nobody's doing

764
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,220
Jack about it. No, because,
well, you know, I've gotten,

765
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,700
I've put this out there for
people to respond, and you get

766
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:31,280
these long ex expositions on
well, you know, the problem is,

767
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,740
you have a treaty between
Country A and Country B, and

768
00:52:33,740 --> 00:52:36,740
they're using this switching
system that is provided as a

769
00:52:36,740 --> 00:52:39,380
middleman for these different
things. And they can use any

770
00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:42,400
phone number they want. And so
they can spoof very easily, and

771
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,800
there's nothing you can do about
it, because it would violate a

772
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,920
treaty. So you can't do any law
enforcement, right? And, you

773
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,500
know, you can't really trust
track these numbers. They could

774
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:53,740
be in the Philippines, China,
India, God knows where they are.

775
00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:56,020
They could be anywhere. They
could be in Tennessee. For all

776
00:52:56,020 --> 00:52:59,680
you know, it doesn't matter, and
it's just like, This is a

777
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,840
disaster.

778
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Yes, it is. Well, you know,
Willow, who already got her

779
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,420
master's in psychology, is now
going for a second master's my

780
00:53:09,420 --> 00:53:14,340
nerd sister in cyber crime, so
she's all over this.

781
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:17,700
So hopefully we'll get her
thesis. We'll

782
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:24,020
get her thesis. It's not gonna
help. This is a diplomatic

783
00:53:24,020 --> 00:53:27,740
problem. It's a technology
problem. We don't need any of

784
00:53:27,740 --> 00:53:30,860
it. It's, it's, it's just dumb.
It's all dumb. We need to get

785
00:53:30,860 --> 00:53:33,860
rid Listen, we have gone we have
gotten so stupid now.

786
00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:38,180
And this was a PBS story on
newshour. I don't know if you

787
00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:42,940
saw it, and I contemplated not
clipping it. But it was so odd

788
00:53:43,420 --> 00:53:46,960
that this was on PBS NewsHour,
and that we're at this level

789
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,060
right now in the online game,
which is all a game, it's all a

790
00:53:52,060 --> 00:53:56,200
game, and it's only going to get
more gamified with AI, which is,

791
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,160
of course, is is pretty decent
at creating videos and audio.

792
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,180
And, you know, it's great, okay,
so it's so we're gonna have all

793
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:09,600
kinds of cool songs we can make
on Spotify, and no one will make

794
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,420
any money, but Spotify, I mean,
it's all, it's also,

795
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:19,080
what's the word I'm looking for?
It's just, it all ends up at

796
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,260
zero. It just ends up zero. This
is the influencer vibe lawsuit.

797
00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:29,000
Did you hear about this? No who
owns a vibe? That question is at

798
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,420
the heart of a lawsuit where one
online influencer is suing

799
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:35,780
another for copyright
infringement. 24 year old Sidney

800
00:54:35,780 --> 00:54:39,320
Gifford claims that Alyssa
shield, a 21 year old fellow

801
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,300
influencer knowingly replicated
her esthetic and her posts on

802
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:47,260
social media. Amna Nawaz spoke
to Sandra E Garcia of The New

803
00:54:47,260 --> 00:54:50,440
York Times, who has been
covering this story extensively.

804
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:56,080
So the idea that you can sue
someone over an esthetic, how

805
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,380
does that work? What is the case
that's being made in federal

806
00:54:59,380 --> 00:54:59,920
court right now?

807
00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:04,740
Out. Well, Sydney Gifford
noticed that Alyssa post started

808
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:08,280
looking a lot like hers a year
after their initial Hangout,

809
00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:13,620
whether that is the esthetic,
the vibe, the minimalistic

810
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:18,480
style, the clean style, even at
some point some poses and some

811
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,400
outfits she details in her
lawsuit that she filed. The

812
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,960
lawsuit basically says that she
got her vibe, her whole look,

813
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,520
from Sydney Gifford. And Sydney
is saying that she has infringed

814
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,360
on her profit right because they
use their social media accounts

815
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,960
to promote their Amazon
Marketplace where they can

816
00:55:39,020 --> 00:55:42,400
influence people to buy things
off of Amazon, and Amazon pays

817
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,980
them a commission to do so, and
because of that, Sydney has

818
00:55:47,980 --> 00:55:53,560
brought this lawsuit in federal
court against Alyssa. So this

819
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,340
just amazed me that this was
even a news story. The second

820
00:55:57,340 --> 00:56:01,020
thing is that there's a lawyer
willing to take on an

821
00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:07,560
infringement suit against
someone's vibe and their and how

822
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,840
they present things for Amazon
resellers, basically. And even

823
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,500
more frightening to me is the is
this New York Times journalist,

824
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:16,920
right?

825
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:22,100
That's what works at the New
York Times and so they Well,

826
00:56:22,220 --> 00:56:24,740
yes, first of all, that's

827
00:56:25,940 --> 00:56:27,620
there's a piece of obscure

828
00:56:28,820 --> 00:56:29,960
Bing. Crosby

829
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,560
sued and won a number of
lawsuits over his voice,

830
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,480
because there were, because he
had this distinctive crooner's

831
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,040
voice, especially in the late
20s and mid 30s to mid 30s, and

832
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,300
there are copycats.

833
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,160
And he sued them all and won.
Would they try to replicate his

834
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,860
voice or his style? Yeah,
because it was, it was doable.

835
00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:57,100
People could, you know, do it,
but, but they're talking about

836
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:00,660
doing the same pose on Instagram
with similar clothes, the

837
00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:03,900
minimalist. I think it's part of
the same really.

838
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,280
Hmm, well, here's part. I think
it's part of the same thing. I

839
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,040
mean, I don't like the idea. I
mean, if everybody what you know

840
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:13,800
the same time, what do you it's
like,

841
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,720
hold on. I don't think this is a
bad clip. So Joe Rogan can then

842
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,680
go and Sue Sean Ryan and Theo
Vaughn and Lex Friedman for

843
00:57:24,740 --> 00:57:27,380
copycatting his vibe and his
guests.

844
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,740
I don't know that they're
copycatting him that much, but

845
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,940
if they, if, if it could be
shown that they were, yeah, I

846
00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:40,780
think so. Wow. Well, let's
listen to clip to and in your

847
00:57:40,780 --> 00:57:44,140
reporting, you quote a professor
of intellectual property law who

848
00:57:44,140 --> 00:57:47,560
explains that in this whole
online space, there's an idea

849
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,720
that you are both a creator and
a borrower. So how hard is it to

850
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,900
lay claim to an esthetic,
something intangible, like a

851
00:57:55,900 --> 00:57:56,380
vibe,

852
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,680
layered issue, the algorithm,
you know, feeds you similar

853
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,880
posts, similar creators, similar
influencers. If I see

854
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,620
a rug and I take a picture on
that rug, and it just so happens

855
00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:13,560
that another influencer took a
picture on the rug a similar

856
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,820
way, we could have both reached
that last photograph by

857
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:22,880
following a lot of different
influencers, celebrities and so

858
00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:26,960
it's hard to say that an
esthetic was reached because of

859
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,900
one other influencer, especially
when it's such a popular

860
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:35,000
esthetic, the minimalistic,
beige, concrete, neat, clean

861
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,560
girl look is very popular right
Now, and the algorithm is

862
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,800
feeding followers and and
influencers the same kind of

863
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,540
posts. And so it's hard to say
that this one influencer copied

864
00:58:49,540 --> 00:58:53,740
the other, as opposed to the
algorithm fed her a million

865
00:58:53,740 --> 00:58:58,840
other posts that got her to that
end point. Well, so assuming

866
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,100
that, and I appreciate your
taking the other side of this

867
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:05,940
than I am. We're kind of that
this would be that you can

868
00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:10,260
copyright, or have some type of
intellectual property rights to

869
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:14,340
your vibe and esthetic. Well,
see the problem I'm having with

870
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:18,900
this is the is the use of the
term vibe? Yeah, they could come

871
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:22,700
up with something a little more
concrete by I mean, I'm gonna

872
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:23,720
you know Alex

873
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Alexis

874
00:59:27,020 --> 00:59:30,380
Brunetti, his wife, is an
intellectual property attorney

875
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,900
who handles some of these people
and influencers, and I'm gonna

876
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:39,380
have her give me a brief on this
so we can at least discuss it

877
00:59:39,380 --> 00:59:42,280
more. It's important to know,
because as you'll hear in this

878
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,720
final clip, there's an whole
economy built around this and as

879
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,020
you've noted in your reporting,
there's an entire economy built

880
00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:54,040
around this kind of content
creation. So when it comes to

881
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,460
this legal case, what's at stake
here? What's the potential

882
00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:59,920
impact of how this case goes?
Well.

883
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,120
It is an unprecedented case, and
it could really change the

884
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,620
content creator world and the
economy, because influencers can

885
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:12,660
now be beholden to copyright
law, and they would have to be

886
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:17,040
careful how they arrange things.
If one person owns an esthetic,

887
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,920
then another person can say they
own another esthetic, and

888
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,740
suddenly we're not building on
these different vibes and social

889
01:00:24,740 --> 01:00:30,680
media looks. We are sort of
stifling the content creator

890
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,540
world. If this case moves
forward and it's ruled in favor

891
01:00:35,540 --> 01:00:36,620
of Miss Gifford,

892
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,800
you know, now that I'm thinking
about it, I'd like to license my

893
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,340
vibe.

894
01:00:43,780 --> 01:00:48,160
There's another aspect to this,
which is kind of the irony, and

895
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,600
that is that if you're an
influencer, quote, unquote, uh

896
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:58,960
huh, you are encouraging people
to do this good point, you're

897
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,040
hired. So how can you be so
you're in influence. So if

898
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,880
you're a self and you have to be
self proclaimed, otherwise you

899
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,360
can't do the suit to begin with.
So you're an influencer, and you

900
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,620
think you have some sort of a
some sort of a monopoly on some

901
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:19,320
image or something you're doing
vibe, say it, it's a thing. Now,

902
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:22,100
the vibe, okay, you guys. So
you're the vibe, but you're an

903
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,860
influence. In other words,
you're pushing this vibe. So

904
01:01:24,980 --> 01:01:28,940
somebody follows up and does the
vibe that you've been

905
01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:30,920
influencing them to do.

906
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,480
How can you sue them? And what's
next? Only fans models are gonna

907
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,160
sue for certain poses. You're
stealing my vibe. I got a big

908
01:01:40,460 --> 01:01:43,060
big big breasts. I got big
breasts. You can't have big

909
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:45,940
breasts. My vibe. That's my
vibe.

910
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Hmm, well, we're about to empty.
That's the that's the issue

911
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,940
here. That is

912
01:01:56,140 --> 01:01:59,920
that comes right to the four,
which is where you have to draw

913
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,840
lines. And that's what they're
going to have to do. They're

914
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,660
going to do. They're going to
have to come up with some

915
01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:08,100
because I don't think it's a bad
idea for the suit. I think is

916
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:11,100
could be seen as frivolous,
which I think you might have

917
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:13,440
thought before he started
playing these clips, and I get

918
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:18,480
all worked up, yeah, but I think
they're going to do, course,

919
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,680
you're going to have to do some
about this. Well, then I think

920
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,080
we need to seriously start
thinking about suing some other

921
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:24,920
podcasts,

922
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,340
come on, we just we don't have
Did you? Here's the problem that

923
01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:34,940
we have. There's zero
competition with us. There's

924
01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:38,060
nobody even trying. We have
nobody to sue. We can't license

925
01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:42,820
ourselves. Nobody can't can't
keep up. It was like the weekend

926
01:02:42,820 --> 01:02:47,080
was yo agenda from seven years
ago. Well, no, the morning

927
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,900
stream did a pretty good job.
They did a pretty good job, but

928
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:52,660
they made the fatal mistake of
doing it in video so that it

929
01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:55,420
could never get their shows
together on time. By the time

930
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:59,140
everything was edited, it was,
it was out of date. Remember

931
01:02:59,140 --> 01:03:02,640
that the morning stream? Yeah, I
don't think that was I think the

932
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,940
closest competition we ever had
was unfiltered, unfiltered,

933
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:09,300
yeah, yeah, yeah. And we could
have sued them for for taking

934
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:12,120
our vibe, stealing our we
wouldn't have done it. No, of

935
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,320
course not. But I will license
because we're no agenda. We

936
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,740
don't we don't think that way.
We're not part of what system.

937
01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:22,040
No, we are not thank goodness.

938
01:03:23,060 --> 01:03:25,520
I just thought, but I can
understand it. I can fully

939
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,860
understand it. Well, it will be
bad for Amazon. This comes in

940
01:03:30,860 --> 01:03:34,520
line with people should go track
down the mark Stein lectures

941
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,940
that were done at Hillsdale
College. Man, yeah, I saw that.

942
01:03:37,940 --> 01:03:42,880
You. Yeah. Tina was playing some
of it. This is the against the

943
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:48,280
climate change guy. Yeah, the
client, Mark Stein did. I'm

944
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,840
pretty good at understanding
some of these libel and slander

945
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,820
issues, but, and I'm not sure I
had to read the case to see

946
01:03:57,820 --> 01:04:00,480
what's really going on here, but
Mark Stein's been in court for

947
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,460
13 plus years or so, 12 to 14
years. I can't remember the

948
01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:10,440
exact number, but years in the
DC courts, which are yes, hung

949
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:13,080
up on eight years. It's been
going on for a long time.

950
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:21,800
He made the comment based on the
hockey stick. The already

951
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,120
debunked, many times debunked
hockey stick graph. Let's just

952
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:32,240
say, scientifically disproven
instead of debunked. He no. He

953
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,980
said the guy was a fraud,

954
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,600
and so and the guy, the person
who put that hockey stick thing

955
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,280
together, sued him for slander
or libel or some, for some

956
01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:49,660
outrageous amount of money,
which will be $1 or two. And

957
01:04:49,660 --> 01:04:54,700
it's done, but the and it's been
in court because of the DC court

958
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:58,600
system. Michael Mann, Michael
Mann, Michael Mann is the guy.

959
01:04:58,660 --> 01:04:59,500
Michael Mann, i.

960
01:05:00,540 --> 01:05:03,360
Was Michael Mann, yeah, Michael
Mann is the guy who sued him.

961
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:10,020
Michael Mann is Ben. He's the
guy, okay, and so he got his tit

962
01:05:10,020 --> 01:05:14,520
in a ringer for just making this
comment. And this is very

963
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,240
concerning. Well, how about
this? How about value? For

964
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,500
value. People are using that
everywhere. I think we should

965
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:21,860
sue them.

966
01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:26,420
And they're Bitcoiners. So they
got Bitcoin. They got some coin.

967
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,480
You go after the big head. You
using value for value. Man, you

968
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,260
can't do that.

969
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,180
I can hear the gears turning in
your head.

970
01:05:36,380 --> 01:05:40,120
John's like, exit strategy,
yeah. I don't think we can do

971
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,600
that.

972
01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:47,860
Okay? You'd have to prove no
prior use of the term, which I

973
01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:50,860
don't know if you can do.
Probably not. There's a lot of

974
01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:53,380
issues with trying to do that. I
mean, I understand what you're

975
01:05:53,380 --> 01:05:57,280
saying, but it's not our style.
We're not I mean, I of course

976
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:02,040
not adverse to being litigious,
but it's not no necessarily, is

977
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:06,000
part of this model. Fact i and
ran might come back from the

978
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,220
dead and sue us. Wouldn't want
to have that, so I

979
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:10,800
think that's where he got it
from.

980
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:17,340
Oh, that would make sense some
ball way. All right. All right.

981
01:06:17,340 --> 01:06:20,220
I gotta do some big pharma
stuff, because I got a dynamite

982
01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:23,420
one from Scott Gottlieb. Who
doesn't know Scott? Scott

983
01:06:23,420 --> 01:06:27,920
Gottlieb is our former FDA
commissioner now on the board at

984
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Pfizer. And what's the other
place?

985
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,980
The other Intel, not
intelligentsia,

986
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,680
I don't know. Yeah, that was
just Pfizer. No, some gene play,

987
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:45,820
some gene morphing place. Okay,
so he goes on CNBC and the

988
01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:51,160
Sorkin kid, Andrew, Andrew Ross
Sorkin. He He touches the third

989
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:56,200
rail, but he does it in such a
wishy washy way, and essentially

990
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:00,660
is saying, hey, you know, maybe
we shouldn't have these pharma

991
01:07:00,660 --> 01:07:03,780
ads on television. I can't
believe he broached the topic,

992
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:08,040
but he did, and Scott Gottlieb
was ready for him, just on a

993
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,620
very personal basis. I mean,
given your background, your

994
01:07:10,620 --> 01:07:13,140
work, COVID, notice that
personal basis has nothing to do

995
01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:16,260
with the CNBC. We love pharma
for a bit.

996
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,320
Wow. That is wishy washy.
Personal basis here, even just

997
01:07:21,380 --> 01:07:24,140
on a very personal basis. I
mean, given your background, you

998
01:07:24,140 --> 01:07:26,360
work, obviously, if I You mean,
you have the relation with

999
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,600
Pfizer and Illumina. Illumina,
you have the relation the

1000
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,260
relation he's on the she's on
the board and directors. He's

1001
01:07:33,740 --> 01:07:38,300
essentially running the company.
You have a relation with the

1002
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,920
Pfizer and Illumina. You could
argue that Joe and I have a

1003
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:46,240
relationship with the television
world and NBC, which which

1004
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:50,140
collects advertising. Here we
are saying, Actually, maybe

1005
01:07:50,140 --> 01:07:53,260
there's not a good idea. What do
you what do you actually think

1006
01:07:53,260 --> 01:07:56,560
put the laws and everything else
aside? What do you personally

1007
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,400
think? Yeah, look, we've looked
at this with data over about 20

1008
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,000
years at FDA, because this has
obviously been a controversial

1009
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,300
issue. So we have commissioned,
or we did, when I was there,

1010
01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:09,180
commission, multiple studies
looking at what the public

1011
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:12,720
health impact was of advertising
and by and large, what you found

1012
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,340
was that, hold on a second stop.

1013
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:20,400
Yeah, this actually wasn't even
the question, no,

1014
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:25,340
he was beating around the bush.
He couldn't bring himself,

1015
01:08:25,340 --> 01:08:29,960
Sorkin couldn't bring himself to
ask, actually ask specifically

1016
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,680
whether advertising pharma,
prescription, pharma, drugs on

1017
01:08:33,740 --> 01:08:37,640
TV is a good thing for the
public policy at all. He never

1018
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,780
really asked that. He just kind
of beat around the bush. And

1019
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,400
this is a good you mentioned
this. This guy was ready for it

1020
01:08:45,460 --> 01:08:48,880
with the he asked the question
himself, yes, he actually

1021
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,480
stepped in it. He could have
avoided this whole topic. No, he

1022
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:55,660
knew what to say. Is there
commission, multiple studies

1023
01:08:55,660 --> 01:09:00,480
looking at what the public
health impact was? He found was

1024
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:04,800
that advertising seen on TV
drove people who had symptoms

1025
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,160
into the doctor's office. Yeah,
prompted them to seek help,

1026
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,840
seeking behavior. And

1027
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,540
I have help seeking behavior.
Help me seeking behavior. Yeah,

1028
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,660
restless leg syndrome. I mean,
all the crap that they're

1029
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,460
advertising to try to get people
to buy more drugs, drove him

1030
01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:25,940
into the doctor's office. Maybe
these people didn't need to go

1031
01:09:25,940 --> 01:09:28,880
to the doctor's office. Or
hypochondriac well, he actually

1032
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,300
had he makes, he was ready for
that to John doctor's office,

1033
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,560
prompted them to seek help,
seeking behavior, and ultimately

1034
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,800
got more people diagnosed. And
so the net, net public health

1035
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,820
impact was a positive one. Now,
I know it's difficult for a lot

1036
01:09:42,820 --> 01:09:45,580
of physicians. Patients come in
asking for a particular

1037
01:09:45,580 --> 01:09:49,000
prescription because of an
advertisement that they saw, and

1038
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,800
if it's not a good
recommendation for that

1039
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,920
individual patient, it takes a
lot of time for a physician to

1040
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,280
counsel them. Oh, it's actually
so it's actually bad for the

1041
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,920
doctors you see, because people
show up saying.

1042
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,260
Got restless leg syndrome and
anal leakage, and they don't

1043
01:10:04,260 --> 01:10:07,260
have that, and the doctor has to
explain, no, no, no, I don't

1044
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:10,620
want to sell this to you on why
not. And doctors are very busy.

1045
01:10:10,620 --> 01:10:12,900
They don't have a lot of time to
have these kinds of

1046
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:15,300
conversations. And so I know
there are some frustrations

1047
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:19,140
among providers, from purely a
provider standpoint, in terms of

1048
01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:23,000
prompting patients to go in and
see physicians when they have

1049
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,580
certain symptoms that might be
consistent with a given

1050
01:10:25,580 --> 01:10:29,060
condition. It provides a net
public health gain. And the

1051
01:10:29,060 --> 01:10:32,000
advertising is tightly regulated
in terms of what companies can

1052
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,240
say, so those messages have to
be crafted towards trying to

1053
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,360
promote that help seeking
behavior. So that's why they

1054
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:39,380
always say,

1055
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,920
talk to your doctor. It's that's
that's promoting help seeking

1056
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,160
behavior. Now we have the legal
term. We finally know where it

1057
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,760
comes from.

1058
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:55,420
Uh, ask your doctor if this is
right for you. Yes, yes.

1059
01:10:56,440 --> 01:11:01,860
And the answer is always going
to be GLP one ozempic, or in

1060
01:11:01,860 --> 01:11:05,100
this case, Zep bound. Or now to
that major medical headline, the

1061
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:08,700
new treatment for obstructive
sleep apnea. Major medical

1062
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:11,400
headline, the condition
affecting millions of Americans,

1063
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,340
of course. And joining us to
break it all down is ABC News

1064
01:11:14,340 --> 01:11:17,280
medical correspondent, Doctor
Darius Sutton, good morning.

1065
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,180
Talk about this, because we have
set bound. It was already FDA

1066
01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:23,600
approved for weight loss. Now,
FDA approved for sleep apnea,

1067
01:11:23,660 --> 01:11:25,700
it's pretty surprising, right,
surprising

1068
01:11:26,780 --> 01:11:30,260
and amazing. I have some help
seeking behavior about my sleep

1069
01:11:30,260 --> 01:11:34,340
apnea. Can I get some some
diabetes medicine to fix that?

1070
01:11:34,340 --> 01:11:36,560
Yeah, of course. It's a
headline. The FDA approved for

1071
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,740
weight loss now, FDA approved
for sleep apnea, it's pretty

1072
01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:42,460
surprising, right? Surprising.
It's also the first of its kind.

1073
01:11:42,460 --> 01:11:44,980
There is no medication that
exists that has been approved to

1074
01:11:44,980 --> 01:11:47,800
treat sleep apnea, and just to
help everyone understand Sleep

1075
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,680
apnea is so much more than just
heavy snoring. These are periods

1076
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,320
of time when you're not
breathing, without oxygen and

1077
01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:56,500
not treated that increases your
risk of diabetes, heart disease,

1078
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:57,700
dementia. Wait a minute.

1079
01:12:01,780 --> 01:12:05,460
What if you don't if you don't
sleep? Well, that increase

1080
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,100
increases your chances of
diabetes.

1081
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:14,460
I know it's amazing. I'm not a
doctor, but this doesn't sound

1082
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:15,060
right to me.

1083
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,900
I thought, I thought you could
kind of get away with it the

1084
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:23,300
other way, like, if you're
obese, then you may have big fat

1085
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:26,840
guy, yeah, and you're snoring
because you got you can't barely

1086
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,520
breathe anyway, and you know
you're laying in bed and you're

1087
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,760
making a lot of noise, okay,
well, you probably diabetic

1088
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,780
already breathing without oxygen
and not treated. That increases

1089
01:12:38,780 --> 01:12:41,920
your risk of diabetes, heart
disease, dementia, and it's even

1090
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,360
be associated, been associated
with dementia. Hey, what

1091
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,200
dementia you get? The story and
causes dementia. I'm gonna make

1092
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,300
a prediction. Write it to you
have your book, but write it

1093
01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:53,080
down in the book.

1094
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:59,800
Write it down. I have a pen. Go
death bound or ozempic will

1095
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,260
eventually be a cure for
erectile dysfunction. Write it

1096
01:13:04,260 --> 01:13:08,160
down in the book, it's coming
lifespan now, on Friday, FDA has

1097
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,860
approved that bound to treat
those with obesity and sleep

1098
01:13:10,860 --> 01:13:14,640
apnea. In these studies, up to
40% of patients had full

1099
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,820
resolution of their symptoms and
diagnosis that could be a cure.

1100
01:13:18,180 --> 01:13:22,580
Oh my gosh, so what? Oh my God,
for insurance coverage, my God,

1101
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:27,440
oh my gosh. This is amazing. Oh
my gosh. I didn't expect this.

1102
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,640
Oh my gosh. So what could this
mean for insurance coverage and

1103
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,760
Medicare? This is an ongoing
conversation. Here we talk about

1104
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,460
these injectable weight loss
medications that bound save

1105
01:13:37,460 --> 01:13:40,720
active ingredient as enduro
similar ozempic insurance

1106
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:41,200
companies,

1107
01:13:42,580 --> 01:13:45,340
it is for the treatment of
diabetes. It's been around for

1108
01:13:45,340 --> 01:13:48,520
more than 20 years, but not
often for weight loss. And so

1109
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,940
likely, cost is a big factor
here. More than $1,000 a month.

1110
01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:55,180
More than 40% of Americans are
considered obese, and also, when

1111
01:13:55,180 --> 01:13:57,820
you think about it, federally,
Medicare, Medicaid, the Biden

1112
01:13:57,820 --> 01:14:01,020
administration has proposed a
proposal to cover the treatment

1113
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:04,080
of weight loss, but that what is
Wait, wait, wait. Post, proposed

1114
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,620
a proposal. Yeah, I had the same
How do you propose a proposal?

1115
01:14:07,620 --> 01:14:11,340
Or you propose a proposal piece,
and also, when you think about

1116
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:13,380
it, federally, Medicare and
Medicaid, the Biden

1117
01:14:13,380 --> 01:14:16,380
administration has proposed a
proposal to cover the treatment

1118
01:14:16,380 --> 01:14:18,900
of weight loss, but that
decision will be pending on the

1119
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:22,100
Trump administration. Cost is
still a big factor here. The

1120
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:25,280
CMS, the Center for Medicaid
Medicare services, estimates it

1121
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,580
can cost up to $30 billion over
a 10 year period. But it's

1122
01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:31,700
important to note that the CDC
cites obesity related health

1123
01:14:31,700 --> 01:14:32,900
conditions cost more than $170

1124
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,040
billion a year. So there's
certainly a healthy argument for

1125
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,100
discussion here. There's a
healthy argument, the argument

1126
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:45,340
benefit analysis, bring Kennedy
in. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know

1127
01:14:45,340 --> 01:14:50,260
the food industry is, is, I
think we talked about on the

1128
01:14:50,260 --> 01:14:53,320
last show, they're like, oh,
Kennedy's coming, man, let's,

1129
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,340
let's change the labeling
packaged foods in the US must

1130
01:14:57,340 --> 01:14:59,860
follow new rules in order to
call themselves.

1131
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,000
Healthy the Food and Drug
Administration finalized its new

1132
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,480
standards yesterday. Under the
rule, a healthy food must

1133
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,060
contain a certain amount of
ingredients from one or more

1134
01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:12,300
food groups, such as fruit,
vegetables, grains, dairy and

1135
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:15,420
protein. There are also limits
for added sugars, sodium and

1136
01:15:15,420 --> 01:15:19,080
saturated fat. Foods That Could
previously carry the labels,

1137
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,880
such as white bread and heavily
sweetened cereals and yogurts no

1138
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,840
longer qualify. This is the FDA
is first major change in 30

1139
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,800
years. The new rule will take
effect within two months, just

1140
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,360
in time. So it has to have
healthy ingredients, has to have

1141
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,680
some carrots, got to have some
other things in there. This is

1142
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,420
not going to work if Kennedy
gets, gets in, gets confirmed,

1143
01:15:43,420 --> 01:15:45,160
which is, I guess, questionable.

1144
01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:47,560
Well,

1145
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,760
I've said it before, all Trump
has to do is threaten an

1146
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,780
executive order against the drug
companies about advertising on

1147
01:15:55,780 --> 01:15:59,020
television, yeah, and say we're
going to just end it.

1148
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,300
You're this advertising on
television, and, you know, for

1149
01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:06,780
prescription drugs on any media
other than, you know, medical

1150
01:16:06,780 --> 01:16:10,860
journals is, is done? Yeah,
they'll knuckle under and

1151
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:13,620
they'll push Kennedy in. Okay,
we can. We'll deal with Kennedy

1152
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:16,260
later. We don't need this
aggravation. We'll deal with

1153
01:16:16,260 --> 01:16:19,380
candidate Kennedy the way we
always deal with the Kennedys.

1154
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:25,640
That could be hope not. I hope
not. Meanwhile, they are coming

1155
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,640
for your pets. We've been
waiting for it, and it's finally

1156
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,940
here. How you can keep your pets
safe. So for one thing, you

1157
01:16:31,940 --> 01:16:35,780
don't want to feed them either
table scraps or any food that's

1158
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:37,220
got raw milk products,

1159
01:16:39,860 --> 01:16:41,860
dairy products, hold on a
second. I can stop.

1160
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,420
So Mimi had this book that she
was working on, besides the egg

1161
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,540
book, yeah. And this is a book
that's actually done, and I keep

1162
01:16:49,540 --> 01:16:52,000
thinking we should just put it
together and sell it. It was

1163
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,360
called Making your own dog food.
Oh, that's a good and it was

1164
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,120
based on the thesis, and I think
it's a good one, because we've

1165
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,880
had dogs, long lived dogs. Yeah,
they eat two of us, but I had my

1166
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,080
Spitz little American Eskimo
that I had went for about 1617,

1167
01:17:07,740 --> 01:17:13,260
years before he died. It was a
long lived dog, and I basically

1168
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:18,000
only fed that dog scraps. Yeah,
that's what they're bred for, is

1169
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,100
what they're meant for. And dogs
were bred to eat human garbage

1170
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:25,460
because they were outside, the
outside the little compounds

1171
01:17:25,460 --> 01:17:28,460
that human, early humans,
humanoids used to live in these,

1172
01:17:28,820 --> 01:17:31,100
you know, these villages, and
they had all their garbage

1173
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:33,500
outside. They threw it away
somewhere, and the dogs would

1174
01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:36,560
come around, and they made
friends with us because they got

1175
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:41,020
to eat our leftover food. So the
idea is that, if you and Mimi

1176
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:48,100
still makes a pot of leftover
crap for the dogs and so, and

1177
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,220
the dogs live forever, and so
now they're trying to but they

1178
01:17:51,220 --> 01:17:53,740
do. You know, this is not good
for the pet food companies. They

1179
01:17:53,740 --> 01:17:56,740
like to make kibble, and his
poor dogs eat this crap. Hold

1180
01:17:56,740 --> 01:18:00,360
on, so, and they don't live very
long. This is really about bird

1181
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,140
flu. This whole report is about
bird flu. That's why don't give

1182
01:18:04,140 --> 01:18:07,980
your Well, I just okay. I got
that in anyway. Yeah. But the

1183
01:18:07,980 --> 01:18:12,720
point is, is that this is
already bull crap, or any food

1184
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,520
that's got raw milk products.
What

1185
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,800
was that all about? Why does she
think that's so funny,

1186
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,300
weird food that's got raw milk
products,

1187
01:18:24,500 --> 01:18:27,620
you know, any kind of dairy
products that you might be

1188
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,500
coming, you know, getting
frozen. If you're giving them

1189
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:33,920
table scraps and it's poultry,
make sure the poultry is very

1190
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,760
well cooked. You want to keep
your pets safe inside. But I'll

1191
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,720
tell you the bad news in a lot
of cats around the world that

1192
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:45,280
have developed the bird flu. A
lot of them have been indoor

1193
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,760
cats, and what they're starting
to see is that there could be

1194
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,900
infected birds that are part of
the, you know, the composition

1195
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:57,160
of the cat food. Now it's not so
much about what? Oh, yes, the

1196
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,600
composition of the cat food. So
they're making cat food out of

1197
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,960
dead birds. When does this
happen? What? Oh, there's a dead

1198
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,500
crow. Let's throw them into cat
food. So the other thing you

1199
01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:10,980
want to do is, if you're hiking
with a dog, for example, and

1200
01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:13,920
they're in, you know, in the
wild, and they're touching

1201
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,400
animal feces, they're walking
in, you're walking in feces and

1202
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,260
stuff, keep those shoes out. And
if you're in a shelter, make

1203
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:25,220
sure you have PPP on if you're
handling birds. And, you know,

1204
01:19:25,220 --> 01:19:28,820
the usual stuff, a lot of COVID.
Everything that we learned with

1205
01:19:28,820 --> 01:19:32,780
COVID 19, we should revisit the
COVID. I think what's so

1206
01:19:32,900 --> 01:19:36,080
confusing about this one is
it's, you know, it's birds, but

1207
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:39,680
then it's also dairy, and then
it's also the food that you buy

1208
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,240
that might be infected. I know
it's there. It's worse than

1209
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,500
that. The way this through
secretions. It spreads through

1210
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:51,040
feces. It spreads through what
we call Fauci transfer. So if

1211
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,980
you have the infection on your
feet, you get into your car, and

1212
01:19:53,980 --> 01:19:56,620
then someone else gets in the
car that you're starting to

1213
01:19:56,620 --> 01:19:59,920
transfer the virus, you're
getting splashed molding.

1214
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,120
You get in the car, you rub your
face on the mat. You could get

1215
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,220
it getting a break, ladies, is
good machinery. But here's the

1216
01:20:08,220 --> 01:20:09,060
thing, birds,

1217
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,620
Hey, Bill that punch pressure
got wear gloves this. Wear a

1218
01:20:16,620 --> 01:20:20,160
mask. They've, they've gone
insane. They really have,

1219
01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:25,580
they have nothing machinery. Oh
yeah, we just have to psyop

1220
01:20:25,580 --> 01:20:28,520
everybody. Every single minute
of the day. There's no disaster.

1221
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,300
We can't scare you. Let's scare
you with your cat virus. You're

1222
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:35,120
getting splashed with raw milk.
You're getting you're touching

1223
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,660
machinery. Oh no. But here's the
thing, birds, so much raw milk

1224
01:20:38,660 --> 01:20:41,020
is out there. They make it sound
as though there's a plague of

1225
01:20:41,020 --> 01:20:44,620
raw you have to go out of your
way to get raw milk. I don't

1226
01:20:44,620 --> 01:20:48,520
care where you live. And then
she splashed me with raw milk.

1227
01:20:48,580 --> 01:20:52,000
Oh, no, that's for the virus
you're getting. Splashed with

1228
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,000
raw milk. You're getting you're
touching machinery. But here's

1229
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:59,200
the thing, birds fly splashing
you with raw you know, now there

1230
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,400
are some women when they're
breastfeeding, yeah, a squirt.

1231
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:07,140
They like to squirt their men,
just as a joke. That's

1232
01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:11,100
hilarious. So, and that's raw
milk. That's right, don't give

1233
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:14,820
me birds. You're gonna give me
the bird flu. Okay, so you have

1234
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:18,900
migratory birds dropping feces
in zoos, zoo animals and

1235
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:22,340
endangered species, cats,
tigers, things like that, are

1236
01:21:22,340 --> 01:21:26,660
coming down with it, because
this is one of those diseases

1237
01:21:26,660 --> 01:21:32,660
that can travel the globe very,
very quickly. And so while right

1238
01:21:32,660 --> 01:21:38,960
now human, cat to human is
there's that one case, but we

1239
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,660
don't know what other
comorbidities, you know, they

1240
01:21:40,660 --> 01:21:44,320
may also always starts with one
this, this disease is probably

1241
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,820
one mutation away from becoming,
oh, yeah, zoonotic, yeah. It is

1242
01:21:48,940 --> 01:21:53,560
one mutation away, in a way.
This is the key phrase, one

1243
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,820
mutation away, yeah. Now, what
was it? Where did this crappy

1244
01:21:57,820 --> 01:22:01,440
report come from? That was.

1245
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:05,880
CBS,

1246
01:22:07,380 --> 01:22:11,700
Oh, brother, yeah. CBS, well,
let's go to como up in Seattle.

1247
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,180
Como four drone shows empty
animal enclosures at this Wild

1248
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:19,200
Cat Sanctuary in Shelton. The
wild Phillip Advocacy Center

1249
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,340
announced more than half of its
big cats, as of this month, have

1250
01:22:22,340 --> 01:22:26,180
been infected with bird flu.
It's been one big nightmare,

1251
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,360
really. I mean, never thought
something like this would happen

1252
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:34,880
to us, maybe only in a facility
that had cats near each other,

1253
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,960
and ours are spread out over
five acres. The tragedy has

1254
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,980
deeply affected the sanctuary
workers who are grieving the

1255
01:22:41,980 --> 01:22:46,180
loss of 20 animals that were
part of worldwide Wildcat

1256
01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:50,260
conservation efforts. They
include a tiger, cougars, links

1257
01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:54,100
is bobcats and other big cats.
The viral infection carried by

1258
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:57,520
wild birds can spread through
bird to bird contact and can

1259
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,900
impact other mammals that eat
birds or bird droppings. We're

1260
01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:04,740
told cats are very vulnerable,
and symptoms happen fast, often

1261
01:23:04,740 --> 01:23:07,980
killing the animals within days
from conditions like pneumonia.

1262
01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:15,000
So tigers are dying from bird
flu. Well, pneumonia,

1263
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,660
technically, right? And how does
that work? Because it's birds

1264
01:23:18,660 --> 01:23:21,980
having sex with birds. They're
getting bird flu, they're coming

1265
01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:25,460
into contact with each other.
This whole I'm, I'm very

1266
01:23:25,460 --> 01:23:29,900
skeptical about these reports
and zoos. Zoos are on high

1267
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:33,080
alert. Zoos across the country
go about the fact that they

1268
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,320
dropped, well on a second there.
I'm Skip skeptical about the

1269
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,140
fact that they dropped a
pneumonia bomb in there. Yeah,

1270
01:23:39,980 --> 01:23:43,900
pneumonia is contagious, you
know, hmm, especially the

1271
01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:44,860
walking pneumonia.

1272
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,140
Someone got me the song you
because you said that on the

1273
01:23:50,140 --> 01:23:53,140
last show, Johnny river rocking
pneumonia and the boogie woogie

1274
01:23:53,140 --> 01:23:53,800
flu.

1275
01:23:58,660 --> 01:23:59,260
Here we go.

1276
01:24:02,860 --> 01:24:02,980
Now.

1277
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:07,380
Here we go,

1278
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,560
rocking pneumonia and the boogie
woogie

1279
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,960
blue. There you go. Beautiful.
It exists. Back to the zoos.

1280
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,560
High Alert. Zoos across the
country on high alert. In

1281
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,820
Phoenix, five zoo animals have
died after contracting avian

1282
01:24:22,820 --> 01:24:26,840
influenza, including a cheetah,
a mountain lion and a cucumber.

1283
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,740
Another zoo in Seattle losing a
rare red breasted goose to the

1284
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:35,180
virus. Members across the nation
are all taking precautionary

1285
01:24:35,180 --> 01:24:39,320
measures to make sure their
populations are safe and secure.

1286
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,480
Experts say this strain of the
virus is unusually deadly to

1287
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:47,800
mammals. Okay, so now it's a new
strain. It's not just it's still

1288
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,140
h5 and one, but it's a new
strain that

1289
01:24:51,460 --> 01:24:51,820
yeah,

1290
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:58,180
the mammals, yeah, yes, called
avian flu, the range of mammals

1291
01:24:58,180 --> 01:24:59,920
that it's infected has to six.

1292
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,000
Ended the level of concern,
really, because it looks like

1293
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,480
many more species are
potentially infectable at

1294
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:13,320
the Los Angeles Zoo, where there
have been no cases of bird flu,

1295
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,800
Chief veterinarian Dr Dominique
Keller is tracking the virus

1296
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,920
closely and doing everything she
can to protect the animals under

1297
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:20,480
her care.

1298
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:24,320
Animals can get the virus from
the droppings of an infected

1299
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,100
bird or by eating infected
poultry or other food. The zoo

1300
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:31,460
now implementing safety measures
to minimize exposure, including

1301
01:25:31,460 --> 01:25:34,760
foot baths for shoes, so that's
part of the protocol and

1302
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,900
stricter food protocol,

1303
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,780
but the greatest risk comes from
above. The hardest thing for

1304
01:25:40,780 --> 01:25:43,540
zoos to control for is that a
lot of enclosures like this one

1305
01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:46,960
are open, so wild birds can
easily fly over or land in them,

1306
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,600
and if one of those birds is
infected, then those animals are

1307
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,260
exposed. The USDA has tracked
the virus in more than 10,000

1308
01:25:53,740 --> 01:25:57,160
wild birds across the US you're
never going to have zero risk,

1309
01:25:57,220 --> 01:26:00,040
so we accept that. That's part
of being a veterinarian. Some

1310
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,760
animals getting additional
protection, like the zoo's

1311
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,400
breeding population of
critically endangered California

1312
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,720
condors, some of the few birds
to get a bird flu vaccine. The

1313
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,360
zoo has many species of
endangered birds, all of whom

1314
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,980
appreciate the extra care.

1315
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,720
So to come back around to what
you said originally, yes, the

1316
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,460
pet food the first human case of
bird flu in Los Angeles County

1317
01:26:22,460 --> 01:26:26,060
is prompting a new warning. Pet
owners are being told not to

1318
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:29,780
give their animals certain raw
foods. Bird Flu samples were

1319
01:26:29,780 --> 01:26:33,320
found in certain Northwest
naturals, pet food products. The

1320
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,800
food was recalled after a pet
cat in Portland, Oregon died

1321
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,800
after consuming it. A warning
last week cautioned against

1322
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,940
giving cats raw milk. That book
Mimi's doing is going to be

1323
01:26:42,940 --> 01:26:46,780
banned. Amazon will take it
right off. You can't be making

1324
01:26:46,780 --> 01:26:52,000
your own pet food. I'm reminded
of the company that Jay used to

1325
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,980
work for, which was a raw pet
food company in Oakland. It had

1326
01:26:56,980 --> 01:26:58,720
since moved someplace else, but

1327
01:26:59,740 --> 01:27:06,960
her job. Her job was grinding up
rabbits, nice and ducks

1328
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,540
and other animals to make this
raw food that was extremely

1329
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:15,720
popular, especially with the
upper set in places like

1330
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,500
Piedmont, who'd only feed their
cats this stuff. Yeah, and it

1331
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:22,100
was considered the best. You
know, there's just, I'm sure the

1332
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:26,720
animals loved eating it too. Has
been delicious to a cat. But

1333
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:32,180
this may be part of a scheme to
kind of put the clamp, because

1334
01:27:32,180 --> 01:27:35,480
there's, if you haven't noticed,
on television, there's two, or

1335
01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:38,840
at least two companies now, then
they have these kind of mocking

1336
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:43,180
commercials about the guy who's
got some sort of raw food, dog

1337
01:27:43,180 --> 01:27:45,880
food in his refrigerator. And
his friend says, What are you

1338
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,280
putting dog food in the
refrigerator for? And then a guy

1339
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,400
gets thrown out, and the guy's
there with this dog, and they're

1340
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,300
feeding the dog this stuff. And
so there's been a big movement

1341
01:27:55,300 --> 01:28:00,300
to making these very high end
dog foods. This could be the

1342
01:28:00,300 --> 01:28:06,060
kibble industries could be plot
it could be or I never surprised

1343
01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:09,540
by these types of marketing
tricks. It wouldn't surprise me

1344
01:28:09,540 --> 01:28:15,240
either. Or maybe one of those
Haitians who's eating the geese,

1345
01:28:16,020 --> 01:28:19,740
eating the dogs, eating the
pets, get gets bird flu and then

1346
01:28:19,740 --> 01:28:22,100
starts spreading it and
spreading it amongst the Haitian

1347
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:23,060
population.

1348
01:28:24,260 --> 01:28:28,520
It's coming. Look, Hotep,
already told us. Hotep, done.

1349
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:34,460
Told you, Hotez, he said,
January test. January 21 january

1350
01:28:34,460 --> 01:28:38,120
21 who test is when it's
happening. It's all in Texas.

1351
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,380
Oh, no, he's in Dallas.

1352
01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:44,200
It's all going down. I, you
know, literally defended Austin

1353
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,140
there. Well, she's too close for
comfort.

1354
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,540
I know. What am I doing? Of
course. Austin, yes,

1355
01:28:53,620 --> 01:28:56,980
yeah, people here. Where do you
live? Fredericksburg. Where's

1356
01:28:56,980 --> 01:28:59,500
that new? Oh, Austin. Oh,
Austin. Yeah, that's great.

1357
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,420
Austin. Hill Country is a good
term. Everyone knows what that

1358
01:29:03,420 --> 01:29:06,660
means. Well, yeah, that's the
best part of Texas. It is. It's

1359
01:29:06,660 --> 01:29:09,660
considered, if you talk, oh Hill
Country, oh Hill Country. Oh

1360
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,140
yeah, there's actually a hill
there. We've got a big hill.

1361
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:13,680
Yes,

1362
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,240
all right, what you got? You got
anything? You've got something

1363
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,100
fun here. Got me relaxed here
with these break. I know, I

1364
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:24,800
know. I'm I'm doing all the
work. You're on a roll. Doing

1365
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,220
all the work. You can do a
couple ask Adams here. That

1366
01:29:28,220 --> 01:29:31,040
would be kind of fun. I think
that's a dynamite idea. I

1367
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,860
actually have two different
ones. Oh, the first one, since

1368
01:29:36,860 --> 01:29:39,440
we were talking about bird flu.
This is, you don't play the

1369
01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:42,340
clip. This is just the answer to
the question I'm going to ask

1370
01:29:42,340 --> 01:29:43,060
you all right,

1371
01:29:46,180 --> 01:29:51,040
what is the national bird of the
United States? Well, I know the

1372
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,640
answer to this because we talked
about this a few weeks ago, and

1373
01:29:54,700 --> 01:29:57,460
you I would have instinctively
said the bald eagle, but that

1374
01:29:57,460 --> 01:29:59,920
only just recently got signed
into law. Well.

1375
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,240
Ah, you knew the answer to this
one. I knew the Yes. I knew the

1376
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,240
answer to this one well, because
I was under the impression that

1377
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,840
the bald eagle was the national
bird. But I guess it was never

1378
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:14,340
the national bird. The bald we
never had a national bird. The

1379
01:30:14,340 --> 01:30:18,480
bald eagle is now officially the
national bird of the United

1380
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:22,580
States. This after President
Biden signed some 50 bills into

1381
01:30:22,580 --> 01:30:27,080
law, including one that amends
US Code to give the bald eagle

1382
01:30:27,140 --> 01:30:30,680
that special status. Congress
adopted the design of the Great

1383
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:35,120
Seal with the bald eagle front
and center in 1782 but the bird

1384
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:39,200
hadn't been legislatively
designated as the national bird.

1385
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,160
The bill was spearheaded by
Minnesota lawmakers, which is

1386
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,460
fitting, since the state has the
second highest number of bald

1387
01:30:45,460 --> 01:30:50,860
eagles after Alaska. All right,
so I have asked John as a follow

1388
01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:55,540
up ask question, What did
Benjamin Franklin suggest to be

1389
01:30:55,540 --> 01:30:59,860
our national bird before he
suggested the bald eagle the

1390
01:30:59,860 --> 01:31:01,200
turkey Correct?

1391
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:06,960
Well, that was disappointing.
He's all over the place. Is the

1392
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,020
reason disappointing? You knew
that one. All right, let's do

1393
01:31:10,020 --> 01:31:13,020
the next Adam. All right. All
right. All right. Okay, so

1394
01:31:13,020 --> 01:31:16,860
here's another one. This is a
good one. This is politifex Lie

1395
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:19,920
of the year. Uh huh. You
probably know the answer this,

1396
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,000
no, let's go. I don't I don't
know. Okay. Well, this go the

1397
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,320
this is the clip one is
introduces the lie of the year

1398
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:31,760
question. It's safe to say the
2024, campaign cycle was unlike

1399
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,540
any in modern American history.
The team at the fact checking

1400
01:31:35,540 --> 01:31:39,200
organization PolitiFact
investigated hundreds of claims

1401
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,300
made this year by political
figures to separate fact from

1402
01:31:43,300 --> 01:31:47,440
fiction, as Ali Rogin reports
one comment stood out as

1403
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:48,520
politifacts 2024,

1404
01:31:49,540 --> 01:31:52,660
lie of the year. All right, do I
play the jingle? Here is this

1405
01:31:52,660 --> 01:31:55,300
where I get to play the jingle?
You can play a jingle.

1406
01:31:58,180 --> 01:31:58,780
Will he know?

1407
01:31:59,860 --> 01:32:01,560
Will he won't? I don't know, but

1408
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:09,600
here we go. Now. Oh, I go. No,
wait, if I was gonna answer

1409
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:10,860
this, if I was trying to

1410
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,660
psych this question out, I would
lie of the year for last year,

1411
01:32:15,660 --> 01:32:18,180
especially during the election,
I would, I would say, like

1412
01:32:18,180 --> 01:32:21,620
blood. Remember the bloodbath?
There's gonna be a bloodbath.

1413
01:32:21,620 --> 01:32:26,780
That's a that's a whopper. No
troops in combat zones. Another

1414
01:32:26,780 --> 01:32:29,240
good one, yeah. Harrison Hitler,

1415
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,100
that's a lie. Hitler. Hitler,
there's a good one. Fascist

1416
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,600
threat, the democracy the end of
voting. Yes, yes. How about the

1417
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,600
grid? The grid is going down.
Oh, the grids go Oh, yeah. Oh,

1418
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,860
that's a great lie of the year.
Yeah. So what's your guess?

1419
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,740
My guess is

1420
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,260
Joe Biden is as sharp as attack.

1421
01:32:54,580 --> 01:32:58,780
That would be the top to me. Joe
Biden being sharp as attack is

1422
01:32:58,780 --> 01:33:01,560
the lie of the year. Here it is.
Here's the lie of the year.

1423
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,100
Okay, they're eating the dogs,
the people that came in, they're

1424
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:09,960
eating the kids. They're eating
they're eating the pets of the

1425
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,860
people that live there. Wow,
this is what's happening in our

1426
01:33:13,860 --> 01:33:17,700
country, and it's a shame that's
that was the lie of the year.

1427
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:22,400
Wow, that's not a lie. They're
eating the dollars. Let's listen

1428
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:26,780
to their explanation, and I have
a commentary to give you about

1429
01:33:26,780 --> 01:33:31,520
the history of politifacts, bull
crap, lies of the year. Those

1430
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,700
untrue comments set off a
firestorm on the campaign trail

1431
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:38,360
and had a profound impact on the
residents of Springfield, Ohio.

1432
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,160
Now it's been named lie of the
year. Katie Sanders is the

1433
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,040
editor in chief of Politifact,
and joins me now, Katie, thank

1434
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,400
you so much for being here.
First of all, is there any

1435
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:53,500
kernel of truth to this? And
also, how does PolitiFact

1436
01:33:53,500 --> 01:33:59,620
determine whether something is
an outright and deliberate lie

1437
01:33:59,620 --> 01:34:05,460
versus other types of untruths.
When Trump and Senator JD Vance

1438
01:34:05,460 --> 01:34:08,820
were asked about this lie, and
they were asked to defend it, as

1439
01:34:08,820 --> 01:34:11,400
so many officials and
journalists were saying there

1440
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,480
was no evidence to support it,
they kept talking about reports

1441
01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:18,540
they heard from television in
Trump's case or from

1442
01:34:18,540 --> 01:34:21,860
constituents in the Ohio
senators case, and they

1443
01:34:21,860 --> 01:34:25,400
basically said that is enough
for us to make this claim. It's

1444
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,120
enough of a basis, but people
make reports to police and other

1445
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:33,020
agencies all the time, and that
just prompts an investigation.

1446
01:34:33,020 --> 01:34:36,380
That doesn't mean that something
actually happened, and Trump and

1447
01:34:36,380 --> 01:34:42,040
Vance were circulating
screenshots of allegations and

1448
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,300
police calls that were about
geese, not people's pets, that

1449
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:49,180
were later taken back by the
people who made them, who told

1450
01:34:49,180 --> 01:34:52,840
journalists they regretted it.
JD Vance even acknowledged that

1451
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,540
these reports he was hearing
from his constituents might turn

1452
01:34:55,540 --> 01:34:58,060
out to be false, but when they
did, when they turned out to be

1453
01:34:58,060 --> 01:34:59,920
empty, he just kept the.

1454
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,560
Ending the lie anyway, saying he
could do that to bring attention

1455
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,260
to Springfield's immigration
experience.

1456
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,720
Yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, okay, so
let's look at the lies of the

1457
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,840
Year from these guys. They
started doing this in 2009 and

1458
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,920
their first lie this, the lies
of the Year from PolitiFact are

1459
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,120
always something to do with
Republicans. Always a

1460
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:27,620
Republican. Always there's no
there's Joe Biden. Sharpest

1461
01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:30,500
attack. This is the best Joe
Biden, blah, blah, but no, no,

1462
01:35:30,500 --> 01:35:34,520
no, he has to be Republic, the
first one in 2009 the first lie

1463
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,660
of the Year from PolitiFact was
Sarah Palin's saying death

1464
01:35:38,660 --> 01:35:43,600
penalty, right? Oh, goodness,
yes, got it. And by the way,

1465
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,020
death panels became what they
are, which is death panels. They

1466
01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:49,540
still do them. Yeah, we have
them everywhere now every year.

1467
01:35:49,540 --> 01:35:52,540
So then you get country. So then
there was just a lull of various

1468
01:35:52,540 --> 01:35:55,120
weird lies. And then we get soon
as Trump shows up, 2015,

1469
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:01,260
lie of the year, Trump's
campaign misstatements. Wait,

1470
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:06,420
wait, the lie of the year is a
specific is a lie, not a a bunch

1471
01:36:06,420 --> 01:36:11,520
of misstatements put into a bag
and called lie of the year.

1472
01:36:11,940 --> 01:36:16,680
Okay, well, that's okay. Let's
let that slide. 2016 Trump again

1473
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:21,800
for saying the term using the
term fake news, that's a lie.

1474
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,820
That's a lie. Wow. That should
be worth term of the year. Is

1475
01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:27,560
what it should be, 2017

1476
01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:34,400
Trump again, Russian election
interference is a made up story.

1477
01:36:36,380 --> 01:36:39,740
No, it wasn't made up, even
though it was made up, yeah, but

1478
01:36:39,740 --> 01:36:44,260
that's, Trump's lie of the year.
We can go up to 2019 Trump's

1479
01:36:44,260 --> 01:36:48,040
claim that whistleblowers got
Ukraine call almost completely

1480
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:48,700
wrong.

1481
01:36:50,140 --> 01:36:53,740
What? I don't even know what
that means. It was a perfect

1482
01:36:53,740 --> 01:36:56,620
goes on. I mean, I could just
one year after one couple more,

1483
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,540
yeah, uh, let's go to 2021.

1484
01:36:59,980 --> 01:37:04,320
Lies about January 6. You know,
wasn't an insurrection I tried

1485
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,800
to have. You know all this
Trump's Trump, Trump, Trump, and

1486
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:12,000
we finally switches over to
Kennedy in 2023 out of the blue

1487
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:17,280
vaccine. Vax, once Kennedy
becomes a Republican, they

1488
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,560
wouldn't Kennedy's been saying
the same stuff for 20 years, but

1489
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,160
now he's a republican lie of the
year. Can say Robert Kennedy's

1490
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:29,540
campaign of conspiracy theories
is the the lie of the year.

1491
01:37:29,540 --> 01:37:33,620
Again, it's not a single thing.
It's a bunch of things. So this

1492
01:37:33,620 --> 01:37:36,740
political fact thing that the
fact that he even got, again,

1493
01:37:36,740 --> 01:37:42,820
another example of NPR
uselessness. This is just a

1494
01:37:42,820 --> 01:37:47,500
propaganda tool. That's great. I
love that. I think, I still

1495
01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:50,680
think mine was better sharp as
attack, because everybody could

1496
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,340
get in on that one. Sharp as
attack, that's the best one.

1497
01:37:54,340 --> 01:37:59,140
Yes, that would be the lie of
the year. Yes, you should have,

1498
01:37:59,260 --> 01:38:03,480
that should have been it. We you
know, it's just we're so lazy,

1499
01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:06,480
but we should do stuff like
this. I mean, so here we are.

1500
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:09,900
Everyone's doing lie of the
year. They write it in November.

1501
01:38:10,260 --> 01:38:12,960
Oh, let's do live the year. So
we could take off for Christmas.

1502
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:18,600
Now, we got bird flu. We're just
doing a show for you and and

1503
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,740
pulling this nonsense apart, but
we should be doing this stuff.

1504
01:38:21,740 --> 01:38:25,640
We need to do the award show. I
told you this years ago, that we

1505
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,820
should do the Podcast Awards and
some other award shows. It's so

1506
01:38:28,820 --> 01:38:32,840
dumb. They have the podcast Hall
of Fame. Oh, Adam, would you

1507
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,940
please come to Miami in January
and and be the host, the emcee

1508
01:38:38,180 --> 01:38:42,580
of the podcast, Hall of Fame?
I'm like, No, not gonna do that.

1509
01:38:43,060 --> 01:38:46,180
But how does it even make you do
it for five grand or 10 grand?

1510
01:38:46,180 --> 01:38:49,600
No, I wouldn't do it for any
grand. No, you wouldn't do it

1511
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:54,520
for any grand. No, no, no,
because it makes no sense. The

1512
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,280
podcast, how many people were
involved in early podcasting?

1513
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,180
How this has been going on for
20 years? They've been doing a

1514
01:39:00,180 --> 01:39:01,020
Hall of Fame.

1515
01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:04,800
By the way, it's only Americans.
There's never any other people

1516
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:05,220
in it.

1517
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,620
It does, it doesn't make any
sense. Podcast Hall of Fame.

1518
01:39:11,820 --> 01:39:17,220
No, then we can get you a ticket
to the to the pod fest. They

1519
01:39:17,220 --> 01:39:20,900
weren't even going to pay for
the pod fest. They weren't even

1520
01:39:20,900 --> 01:39:22,700
gonna pay for my flight.

1521
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,260
But that wasn't the criteria.
I'm just like, No, I don't want

1522
01:39:27,260 --> 01:39:30,080
to do that. They weren't gonna
pay for your flight. No, give

1523
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,900
you a ticket to the pod Fest in
case you didn't, in case you

1524
01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:35,360
missed it. There's no money in
podcasting anymore. It's all

1525
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,160
dried up, all the

1526
01:39:38,180 --> 01:39:41,800
a lot of it is dried up. Yeah?
What comes and goes. It's a

1527
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,860
cycle, yeah, oh, it'll come
back, it'll come back, and it'll

1528
01:39:44,860 --> 01:39:48,340
always be some some new format,
and some content, you know, some

1529
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:53,740
like, what was the one that was
triggered the real serious true

1530
01:39:53,740 --> 01:39:57,220
crime, serial, serial, yeah,
serial, one shot. It's a one

1531
01:39:57,220 --> 01:39:59,920
shot. Is a one, yeah? It was
like, one hit.

1532
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,200
Wonder it was. It came at the
perfect moment everybody was

1533
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,440
binging, Breaking Bad on
Netflix, like, Oh, this is

1534
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:11,520
great. I can binge remember that
binge or binge was binge, binge

1535
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,220
watching. It was the word of the
year, I'm sure, binge watching.

1536
01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:19,500
And then all sudden, along comes
audio only, mystery, true crime,

1537
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:23,600
and you couldn't binge listen
it. You had to wait until the

1538
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,820
next episode The next week, and
people liked it. They were

1539
01:40:25,820 --> 01:40:28,640
standing around at the water
cooler talking, oh, what? What

1540
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,800
do you think? Did you Did he do
it? Is it true?

1541
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,940
And by the way, this also
completely discredits the whole

1542
01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:37,880
you've got to have video for
your podcast to be successful.

1543
01:40:38,060 --> 01:40:42,880
That's nonsense. Not a single
True Crime podcast does video,

1544
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:47,740
it's all audio. People like it's
the number one category for and

1545
01:40:47,740 --> 01:40:51,700
women especially, they love it,
morbid creatures that they are.

1546
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,620
They like true crime. Maybe we
should do two crime, True Crime

1547
01:40:56,620 --> 01:40:59,260
podcast. He's too much work.

1548
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,020
Anyway, I wanted to play this,
this interview. Before you play

1549
01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:07,200
it, I do have a short shorty, a
nine second clip. Oh, okay,

1550
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:14,100
because this is another this PBS
and this is bull crap. This is

1551
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:17,520
the clip that is Chris maca.

1552
01:41:18,660 --> 01:41:19,020
Oh,

1553
01:41:20,580 --> 01:41:24,260
Chris Micah and for the first
time in almost 20 years,

1554
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:28,340
Christmas and the first night of
Hanukkah fall on the same day.

1555
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:32,960
Some have given it the nickname
Chris Micah. No, they haven't.

1556
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:37,280
I've never heard anybody say
this wasn't that didn't Adam

1557
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:41,440
Sandler do that in a song?
Maybe. I mean, that's possible,

1558
01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:44,200
but nobody says Chris Micah,
nobody.

1559
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,820
Let me see this. It has a
Wikipedia PBS giving us this

1560
01:41:48,820 --> 01:41:53,500
bull crap. Now it has, it has a
it has a Wikipedia entry,

1561
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:58,360
yeah, let me see when this start
with Chris MC, by the way,

1562
01:41:58,900 --> 01:42:02,160
because someone sent us an email
about it. I looked up the form

1563
01:42:02,220 --> 01:42:06,660
990 for Wikimedia, the people
behind Wikipedia. Oh, yeah.

1564
01:42:06,660 --> 01:42:09,540
People are all adamant about
what's going on there with their

1565
01:42:09,540 --> 01:42:13,680
dei stuff. Do you know how much
money they they raked in in 20,

1566
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,800
2310s of millions. Try again.

1567
01:42:18,420 --> 01:42:19,740
Hundreds of millions. $245

1568
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:21,720
million

1569
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:26,780
yeah. And most of it goes to
hating Whitey, yeah, this is a

1570
01:42:26,780 --> 01:42:31,400
slush fund. This is a hate there
are hate group, so slush it's a

1571
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,400
hate group. It's really, it's,
it's a slush fund for other

1572
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,700
stuff, and they send it all over
the world. Yeah, it's not. They

1573
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:39,980
don't even use it for their own
servers. They should, like, you

1574
01:42:39,980 --> 01:42:43,180
know, this reminds me of the
collapse of some sir, almost the

1575
01:42:43,180 --> 01:42:46,360
collapse of certain podcasts.
Who I'm gonna, you know, they

1576
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,720
asked for money, value for our
value for value. Money goes to

1577
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:55,120
to the podcast. It pays the
bills. We don't take a chunk of

1578
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,420
money that people donate to us
and then give it to somebody

1579
01:42:58,420 --> 01:43:02,160
else. We don't do that. No, God
no. It's like, if you want to

1580
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,500
give it to them, go give it to
them. Why you? What would you

1581
01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:07,080
give it to us? To give it to
them? Yeah, that's not right,

1582
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:12,180
no. And so this happened with
the Adam Carollo, when he was

1583
01:43:12,180 --> 01:43:15,720
asking for money for something.
Oh, there was the podcast patent

1584
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:20,660
suit. Yeah, the podcast patent
suit, yeah. So, so podcasts that

1585
01:43:20,660 --> 01:43:23,360
were collecting money for their
podcast and then giving it to

1586
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:27,500
him, yeah, well, this is what
Wikipedia is doing. Why are they

1587
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:30,800
taking this money instead of
just building up their site,

1588
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,940
making things better? Well,
trust editors giving it to

1589
01:43:35,060 --> 01:43:38,840
other. Trust me. This is not
coming from people sending in

1590
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,820
their $35 to Wikipedia. This is
intelligence money.

1591
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:49,180
Wikipedia can't be trusted. This
is the primary, this is, no,

1592
01:43:49,180 --> 01:43:53,500
they can't this is the primary
ingest method for for anyone

1593
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:58,360
fact checking or any AI that is
slurping up the internet. No,

1594
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:02,880
this is, this is intelligence
operation, $245 million I think

1595
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:03,480
not.

1596
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:06,900
I mean seriously, well,

1597
01:44:08,580 --> 01:44:11,040
there's definitely Intel money
involved. Now with that, I'd

1598
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,080
like to thank you for your
courage. Say in the morning to

1599
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,360
you, the man who put the C in,
Chris MCCA, say hello to my

1600
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:17,880
friend on the other end, the one
and only, Mr. John. C'mon.

1601
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:20,120
Yeah.

1602
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,340
Well, in the morning, curry,
also in the morning, those ships

1603
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,680
see boots on the ground, feet in
the air, subs in the motor all

1604
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,360
the names of nights out there in
the morning,

1605
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,700
oh, we're down. Trolls down.
1726,

1606
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:43,060
wow. I was predicting 1600 I
thought it would be around 1500

1607
01:44:43,420 --> 01:44:47,080
honestly, but I'm surprised. I'm
in you know what? These trolls

1608
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,600
who are here, we appreciate
every single one. There's still

1609
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,540
a lot of trolls listening.
That's amazing. It's amazing

1610
01:44:52,540 --> 01:44:53,800
anybody listens to us.

1611
01:44:55,480 --> 01:44:59,500
You think about it, well, there
is that aspect. Amazing anybody

1612
01:44:59,500 --> 01:44:59,920
listeners?

1613
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,200
So damned entertaining. Yeah,
well, we do keep getting emails

1614
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,500
of people saying, you know, I
just feel good after listening

1615
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:11,220
to your show. I hope so I get
the news and then you make me

1616
01:45:11,220 --> 01:45:14,400
laugh about it. Yeah, that's
what we do. We're a comedy show.

1617
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,000
Look us up under the comedy
heading on Apple podcast.

1618
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,580
So these trolls are trollroom.io
that's where they you can listen

1619
01:45:22,580 --> 01:45:24,740
in. You can join the troll room
from there. Or you can get a

1620
01:45:24,740 --> 01:45:30,680
modern podcast app, please. It's
podcast apps with an s.com and

1621
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:36,200
there you can find pod verse,
fountain curio caster, cast O

1622
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:36,800
Matic,

1623
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:42,040
podcast guru, a whole bunch of
them, all with modern features,

1624
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,680
including those wonderful
chapters that Dr Scott does for

1625
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,140
us. He does that with the
artwork that we get from our

1626
01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:49,300
artists, which I'll just go
straight to that because

1627
01:45:50,740 --> 01:45:54,040
we have no agenda. Art
generator.com, part of our value

1628
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:58,060
for value don't steal it. We're
gonna sue you for our vibe, our

1629
01:45:58,060 --> 01:46:02,460
value for value proposition,
which is, we work for you. We

1630
01:46:02,460 --> 01:46:06,060
provide this as a service, a we
believe it's a valuable service.

1631
01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:08,880
We just ask you to send
something back in return. People

1632
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,100
do all kinds of things for us.
We love it when you send us

1633
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:13,860
money so we can pay the bills,
as John justice just discussed.

1634
01:46:14,820 --> 01:46:18,480
But we also take time and talent
as treasure being the third one

1635
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,380
and the artists, which now seem
to be pretty much prompt

1636
01:46:21,380 --> 01:46:22,640
jockeys, but they're out there.

1637
01:46:25,580 --> 01:46:28,640
Yeah? Well, yeah, this is what
it is, I guess, for now. I mean,

1638
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,240
eventually we'll get back to
real art. Real art will never go

1639
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,780
away. I doubt it. Yeah, what you
don't think, you think is going

1640
01:46:35,780 --> 01:46:38,780
to be AI for the rest of our
lives. We're less it'll be just,

1641
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,820
it'd be as when we when it first
started off, when it was like

1642
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:51,100
90% real art and 10% AI, it's
just flipped. It'll be 90% AI

1643
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,440
and 10% real art. It won't,
you're right, it won't

1644
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:56,560
completely disappear. It's kind
of sad to think about it.

1645
01:46:58,900 --> 01:47:01,140
Well, they upload to no agenda
Art generator.com

1646
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,360
which is still a very valuable
service. Sir Park Latour, put

1647
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,000
that together for us years and
years and years and years ago,

1648
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:09,960
and we still use it

1649
01:47:10,980 --> 01:47:14,460
twice a week. And this is where
any artist and even prompt

1650
01:47:14,460 --> 01:47:17,580
jockeys can upload their art,
and we gladly use that as the

1651
01:47:17,580 --> 01:47:20,900
album art for our show. We use
it for promoting the program. It

1652
01:47:20,900 --> 01:47:24,740
looks good in the podcast apps.
And we always like to thank the

1653
01:47:24,740 --> 01:47:27,980
artists who brought that for us.
And I think this was a new

1654
01:47:27,980 --> 01:47:32,120
artist, Susanna Leah, did the
artwork. Always looking for

1655
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,060
something traditional, which
Susannah Leah understood very

1656
01:47:35,060 --> 01:47:37,640
well. She gave us a Merry
Christmas, no agenda. Tree in

1657
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:42,040
the background looked like the
balloons, balloons and candies.

1658
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:46,240
I guess there were a number of
different Christmas pieces, of

1659
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:50,500
course. John, immediately, was I
like the cheesecake? Yeah, the

1660
01:47:50,500 --> 01:47:54,220
cheesecake one is really good.
But no, then you wanted just the

1661
01:47:54,220 --> 01:47:58,840
tip by Francisco Scaramanga,
which you thought it was cute.

1662
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,820
The girl is biting the snowman
carrot nose. Yeah? Okay, John,

1663
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:05,700
like we didn't, we didn't know
what that was. All about missing

1664
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:08,760
it, yeah. And by the way, I
should mention that I did use

1665
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,880
that for the newsletter. It's a
very for a scaramonger, because

1666
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,480
Cara manga normally uses, it
does stuff that has got more

1667
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:20,060
dimensionality. It's not
cartoony, like this piece is. I

1668
01:48:20,060 --> 01:48:23,360
just thought this piece was
extremely well executed by the

1669
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,660
AI deliver whatever he's doing
there. Yeah, yeah. Well, we knew

1670
01:48:26,660 --> 01:48:29,240
exactly what was being
insinuated there, and I'd Nix

1671
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,540
that. I'll have none of that.
Well, I used it anyway, yeah,

1672
01:48:32,540 --> 01:48:34,700
well, you can use it on your
newsletter. That's fine.

1673
01:48:35,900 --> 01:48:39,680
You mixed it because you're a
prude. You saw into it things

1674
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,520
that didn't exist. It is a
carrot. It existed

1675
01:48:44,380 --> 01:48:45,640
was unnecessary.

1676
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,640
Let's see. We had a couple
Grinches, we had Santa slays. We

1677
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:57,100
had what else did we have here?
We had and it was nice. There

1678
01:48:57,100 --> 01:49:01,200
were other Merry Christmas bits,
but a lot of them from Scara

1679
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,220
manga, with bits and boobs a
lot, and Darren, Darren O'Neill.

1680
01:49:06,660 --> 01:49:11,640
It's like Darren's and Scara
Mangus. Those two girls in the

1681
01:49:12,060 --> 01:49:16,560
Santa outfits with the with the
legs, yeah, it looks like

1682
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,480
they're using the same software.
Oh, those two pieces, Merry

1683
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:25,280
Christmas by O'Neal and
cheesecake for whatever. There's

1684
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,620
this basically the same piece,
yeah, but

1685
01:49:29,420 --> 01:49:32,240
it's like we're already two old
white guys. I mean, do we really

1686
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:33,740
have to ham it up like that?

1687
01:49:35,540 --> 01:49:36,680
This, those guys are, like,

1688
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,380
deteriorating in their,

1689
01:49:40,820 --> 01:49:43,900
yeah, in their, in their
lasciviousness, that way,

1690
01:49:43,900 --> 01:49:47,560
lasciviousness, there you got,
yeah, we were in the hotel room,

1691
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,220
and Christina and Kevin, her her
fiance, were coming by to

1692
01:49:51,220 --> 01:49:55,180
celebrate Christmas dinner with
us. And so I tried to find on

1693
01:49:55,180 --> 01:49:58,060
YouTube. I was like, how about
just some nice, you know, like,

1694
01:49:58,060 --> 01:49:59,920
I want the you log, only want a
Christmas.

1695
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,060
Scene, and YouTube is filled
with videos that are Christmas

1696
01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:11,040
scenes, but it's all AI, and you
got people jerking around, and

1697
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,160
it's so obviously AI, you can't
even get a normal, like

1698
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,320
Christmas scene, like you used
to be able just get to

1699
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,920
Rockefeller Plaza. You know, you
could see people skating on

1700
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,300
Rockefeller Plaza. You can't get
that anymore. No, it's all AI

1701
01:50:23,300 --> 01:50:23,960
swap.

1702
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,520
I feel like culture is going
down the drain.

1703
01:50:29,780 --> 01:50:30,500
I really do.

1704
01:50:31,580 --> 01:50:35,720
Oh, yeah, what can I say? A
couple of weeks in Europe, and

1705
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,600
next thing you know, you've
turned into I know I got to get

1706
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,500
back to Texas quick, where
things are positive, Texas,

1707
01:50:41,500 --> 01:50:44,740
where the conspiracies are
thriving, back to the hill

1708
01:50:44,740 --> 01:50:47,800
country. Thank you all very
much, artists. We appreciate you

1709
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:52,000
very much for for doing this.
It's always fun for us after

1710
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,340
we've done a show, then sit down
and look at the art and laugh.

1711
01:50:54,340 --> 01:50:57,100
We do laugh. We laugh a lot of
stuff that's just inappropriate.

1712
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,780
It's really for us. It's humor
for us after the show. So it's

1713
01:51:00,780 --> 01:51:03,360
great, and we love having good
art

1714
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,440
to use for our show to promote
it. It really does help.

1715
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,700
Of course, we always want to
thank everybody who supports the

1716
01:51:11,700 --> 01:51:14,640
show financially. We mention
everybody with their name and

1717
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,300
their amount over $50 we take
time out here to thank our

1718
01:51:18,300 --> 01:51:20,840
executive and Associate
Executive producers who have

1719
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,260
supported us with $200 or above,
that's your Associate Executive

1720
01:51:24,260 --> 01:51:26,960
producer credits, a real credit.
Use it wherever credits are

1721
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:30,140
accepted and acknowledged,
including imdb.com and we'll

1722
01:51:30,140 --> 01:51:33,800
read your note. $300 and above,
you become an executive producer

1723
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,800
of the no agenda show for this
episode, and we'll read your

1724
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,620
note as well, and you get that
executive producer title. So we

1725
01:51:39,620 --> 01:51:42,460
started off today with 420 1.1.

1726
01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:47,860
Interesting number from bad
Brad, Bruce, Kansas City,

1727
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,100
Kansas, and right away,
switcheroo, Merry Christmas.

1728
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:54,100
Adam and John. This donation is
on behalf of my smoking hot

1729
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:58,300
wife, Katrina. We found you guys
four years ago and haven't

1730
01:51:58,300 --> 01:52:02,040
missed a show since. Thanks for
what you do. May God bless you

1731
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,820
both, and the whole no agenda
nation, Jesus knows and loves

1732
01:52:05,820 --> 01:52:10,860
you all well. Thank you, Brad
and I will put that switcheroo.

1733
01:52:10,860 --> 01:52:14,280
Let me make sure I get that just
for so I guess it's going to be

1734
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:16,920
Katrina, Bruce.

1735
01:52:18,180 --> 01:52:19,380
I'm just presuming.

1736
01:52:21,660 --> 01:52:24,200
Well, are you doing that, I'll
go on with Charles Mayfield,

1737
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:29,000
who's in neota. Oh, we know
Charles. He's from Pharaoh dot

1738
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:35,060
life. He's the the Pharaoh guy.
Yeah, yeah. Pharaoh came with

1739
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:39,800
414, 97 ITM gents, value for,
value for value 10% back to the

1740
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,480
big guys for no agenda. Nations,
Pharaoh support code, no agenda.

1741
01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:44,200
Save 17.76,

1742
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:50,080
on all Pharaoh products, F, A,
R, R, O, W, our road to

1743
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:54,640
knighthood has begun. Other
products, such other products

1744
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:56,920
suck due to climate change.

1745
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,380
Does you want that gene give us
a link or something here. It's

1746
01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:02,580
Pharaoh dot life.

1747
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,380
Pharaoh dot life, and that's,
that's his, I know his website

1748
01:53:07,380 --> 01:53:09,900
that all the women in the hill
country use it due to climate

1749
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:10,620
change.

1750
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:15,540
Pharaoh dot life, yeah, it's,
uh, it's basically lard,

1751
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,440
large, right, right, right,
yeah, you sent me some. Yeah,

1752
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:23,240
it's good. The women like it and
their pets even more. Yeah,

1753
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:27,860
yeah. Matthew Ross, Indian
Trail, North Carolina, 350 and

1754
01:53:27,860 --> 01:53:31,340
58 cents. Just mentioned the
website Clip of the day.com, and

1755
01:53:31,340 --> 01:53:35,960
Instagram ID Clip of the Day,
Insta, I'm a closet headbanger,

1756
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:40,520
tracking my vocal progress and
getting back in shape. You got

1757
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,840
it, Matthew? He did a very nice
video I saw on Instagram about

1758
01:53:44,980 --> 01:53:49,180
why he how we help him through
his day. He's nice. Oh yeah.

1759
01:53:49,300 --> 01:53:50,620
Clip of the Day. Calm.

1760
01:53:51,820 --> 01:53:56,500
Commodore. Dalton s Fisher in El
Mirage, Arizona, 434567,

1761
01:53:58,540 --> 01:53:59,200
good. Number 34567,

1762
01:54:01,180 --> 01:54:05,280
switcheroo, incoming in the
morning. And Merry Christmas. It

1763
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:09,180
is I Commodore Dalton s Fisher,
however, please do not credit

1764
01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:11,580
this donation to me. Instead,
I'm giving this executive

1765
01:54:11,580 --> 01:54:13,860
producership to my dad, Scott
the boomer.

1766
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:19,260
Scott the boomer, uh, during
this blessed season and his

1767
01:54:19,260 --> 01:54:23,840
first Christmas as a Christian,
that's interesting. A Boomer

1768
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,020
Christian, I can think of no
better gift than a good,

1769
01:54:27,140 --> 01:54:29,780
thorough deducing for dear old
dad,

1770
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,960
you've been deduced. I love you,
dad. Merry Christmas or jingles

1771
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:40,160
we need. All we need is they're
eating the dogs. And if anyone

1772
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,600
in Gitmo nation these video or
social media content for their

1773
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:47,020
blue collar business anywhere in
the USA, go to Fisher

1774
01:54:47,020 --> 01:54:50,440
multimedia.com that's Fisher
multimedia.com

1775
01:54:51,580 --> 01:54:55,780
or email Dalton at Fisher
multimedia.com

1776
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,920
God bless us everyone, and
thanks for the tax.

1777
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:04,740
Right off. They're eating the
dogs. You got it? Boomer. Dad

1778
01:55:05,340 --> 01:55:09,120
Scott the boomer. Megan Klein is
in Santa, Barbara, California,

1779
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:14,100
343, dot, 75 ITM, John and Adam.
I've been a douche bag Since

1780
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:17,280
2018 when my friend hit me in
the mouth. This holiday season

1781
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,420
got me feeling like I need to
acknowledge all the value you

1782
01:55:20,420 --> 01:55:24,800
provide. So please accept this
very overdue donation. Thanks

1783
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,580
for all you do. From Mac and
Megan, a Klein, I guess, and

1784
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,500
even though she didn't ask for
it, I'm gonna give her a

1785
01:55:30,500 --> 01:55:31,040
deduction.

1786
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:38,180
You've been deduced. That's how
it works. You can donate $5 if

1787
01:55:38,180 --> 01:55:41,800
you want, once every week, every
show you can donate whatever you

1788
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,680
do. But eventually everyone
comes around and says, you know,

1789
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:48,340
it's time. And there it is.
Megan did it. It's time for

1790
01:55:48,340 --> 01:55:49,780
Megan Klein, thank you.

1791
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:53,620
JD Elkhorn, Nebraska, three,
three, 3.33.

1792
01:55:55,180 --> 01:55:59,860
Uh, Horowitz and I were
reviewing year end performance

1793
01:55:59,860 --> 01:56:02,700
when he suggested it's a great
time to invest in the best

1794
01:56:02,700 --> 01:56:04,020
podcast in the universe.

1795
01:56:05,460 --> 01:56:07,860
The ROI will be immeasurable.

1796
01:56:09,180 --> 01:56:13,200
Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah.
JD and Elkhorn. Nebraska, no

1797
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:16,500
jingles, no karma. How about
that? So nice is that is

1798
01:56:16,500 --> 01:56:20,600
Horowitz promoting us in that
way? Horowitz loves promoting

1799
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,720
everything. He's a good
promoter. He's a he's a log

1800
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:24,980
roller of the best

1801
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:30,500
sir Yogi night of the Carnival
Midways is next with 333 dot 33

1802
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:34,700
and he says, Hey, John. Okay.
The note below and donation are

1803
01:56:34,700 --> 01:56:37,460
for Thursday, December 26 which
is my wife's birthday. The

1804
01:56:37,460 --> 01:56:40,040
donation is to be credited to
her. Okay, so that is a

1805
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:44,260
switcheroo. Says for my smoking
hot wife, Dami Janice of the

1806
01:56:44,260 --> 01:56:48,700
bombing range, she turns the big
66 today, and I wish her a happy

1807
01:56:48,700 --> 01:56:51,040
birthday and thank her for
putting up with this crazy

1808
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,580
bastard all these years. Here's
another great year. Please know

1809
01:56:54,580 --> 01:56:58,660
I love nothing more than you.
Please give her a biscuit for

1810
01:56:58,660 --> 01:57:02,880
her birthday. They always give
me a biscuit on my birthday and

1811
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,220
some goat karma, which is her
favorite. Keep up the good work,

1812
01:57:05,220 --> 01:57:08,880
gentlemen and peace to you both.
Sincerely. Sir yogi, Night of

1813
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,700
the Carnival Midways. And here's
your service goat,

1814
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,340
you've got

1815
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:16,500
karma.

1816
01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:21,860
Eli the coffee guy in
bensonville, Illinois, 321226,

1817
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:30,260
first Associate Executive
Producer, happy Boxing Day as we

1818
01:57:30,260 --> 01:57:33,500
approach the end of 2024 most
shows are mailing it in with

1819
01:57:33,500 --> 01:57:38,300
retrospectives and reruns and
substitute hosts, I might add.

1820
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:43,300
Yeah, I just want to thank Adam
and John for bringing fresh,

1821
01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:48,400
quality material, as always,
huzzah. Huzzah. Huzzah. Haza

1822
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:52,120
Huzzah, for all those who helped
make this the best podcast in

1823
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:56,080
the universe, from Darren
O'Neill to the clip custodian on

1824
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,900
all those and all those who
donate time, talent and

1825
01:57:58,900 --> 01:58:02,640
treasure, don't forget, if you
need good coffee, visit. Giggle.

1826
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:06,540
What Coffee roasters.com and use
code ITM for 20% off your order.

1827
01:58:06,540 --> 01:58:10,140
Stay caffeinated. Eli, the
coffee guy, yes, I did want to

1828
01:58:10,140 --> 01:58:13,920
mention I want to thank Neil
Jones, the clip custodian,

1829
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:19,740
of course, is his brother, Steve
Jones, who is the clip

1830
01:58:19,740 --> 01:58:24,560
collector, and Dave Ackerman,
who is all three of them, helped

1831
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:27,980
me immensely during my trip,
making sure that I stayed up to

1832
01:58:27,980 --> 01:58:30,620
date on the latest happenings in
us. News is very much

1833
01:58:30,620 --> 01:58:34,580
appreciated. Blaine Murphy,
Houston, Texas, Merry Christmas,

1834
01:58:34,580 --> 01:58:37,100
fellows. Here's some value for
the weekly infotainment you

1835
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:40,540
provide in this crazy world.
This donation is also in memory

1836
01:58:40,540 --> 01:58:43,720
of my dad, Lonnie, who we lost
this year. Do you have an F

1837
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,240
heart disease jingle by any
chance? I looked we don't

1838
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:50,380
really. So I never hit him in
the mouth, but I think he would

1839
01:58:50,380 --> 01:58:53,740
have really liked the show,
especially John. He was laid to

1840
01:58:53,740 --> 01:58:56,920
rest in the Texas Hill Country,
his favorite place to be. No

1841
01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:59,860
jingles necessary. Just hoping
everyone in Gitmo nation had a

1842
01:58:59,860 --> 01:59:03,420
peaceful and joy is Christmas.
Rejoice. God is with us. Blaine

1843
01:59:03,420 --> 01:59:06,240
Murphy in Houston, yes, he is.
I'm gonna give your dad a Karma

1844
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:08,340
though, even though we don't
have an F heart cancer, you've

1845
01:59:08,340 --> 01:59:10,680
got karma. There we go.

1846
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,420
Justin Baker, nearby, Norman,
Oklahoma, $210.60

1847
01:59:16,980 --> 01:59:20,040
and he has a simple note that
sent. Simply says, Merry

1848
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,640
Christmas. Bingo,

1849
01:59:23,660 --> 01:59:26,960
sir, Lady Boy in Mount Laurel,
New Jersey, switch a roof. My

1850
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:31,100
dear friend Martin McIntyre, he
consistently hit me in the mouth

1851
01:59:31,100 --> 01:59:35,180
until I submitted in late 2019
because I realized NPR is full

1852
01:59:35,180 --> 01:59:39,260
of crap. COVID happened and I
was hooked. Thank you, Martin.

1853
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:42,400
Thank you boys. Merry Christmas
and Happy New Year. Oh, by the

1854
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:44,080
way, Steve is a douche bag.

1855
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,340
Jingle, they're eating the dogs.
They're eating the cats. They're

1856
01:59:48,340 --> 01:59:51,100
eating the people's pets.
Timothy Wilkinson, you got it in

1857
01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:55,360
Springfield, they're eating the
dogs, the people that came in,

1858
01:59:55,420 --> 01:59:59,920
they're eating the cats. They're
eating they're eating the pets.

1859
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,400
Of the people that live there,

1860
02:00:04,980 --> 02:00:09,480
I love that. Everyone in Europe
knows this. They all love it.

1861
02:00:10,020 --> 02:00:13,440
It's so good. Well, when we
first heard it, you had to fall

1862
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,860
in love with it, because the
debate was not going that well.

1863
02:00:16,860 --> 02:00:20,120
And she was snickering and
snickering, and she's looking at

1864
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:23,360
him, and she's making faces, and
she's got her hand to her face,

1865
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,880
and she's she's doing a great
job of

1866
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,560
scene stealing during the
debate. Got the big smile on her

1867
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,560
face and everything, yep, yep.
And he's just looking for

1868
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:36,920
something to say to get some
some attention to himself. And

1869
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:41,440
he drops this bomb out of the
blue and and it just goes to

1870
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:45,220
show that in this day and age,
that's what works. But not.

1871
02:00:45,220 --> 02:00:48,460
There's no one out there talking
about the coconut tree. You

1872
02:00:48,460 --> 02:00:52,000
know, there's no memes. And
actually, I would say that the

1873
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,920
way this got around the most is
there were one or two, possibly

1874
02:00:57,100 --> 02:01:00,360
YouTube videos where guys were
had sampled this. They're eating

1875
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:04,380
the dogs. And I did whole songs
about it. Everyone saw those

1876
02:01:04,380 --> 02:01:04,980
songs.

1877
02:01:07,140 --> 02:01:09,900
Yeah, it was, it was just, it
was, it was something to behold,

1878
02:01:09,900 --> 02:01:13,200
and it still works. He always
gets the last always. Linda Lou

1879
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:18,180
packing, meanwhile, is looking
for some jobs karma she wants.

1880
02:01:18,180 --> 02:01:20,900
She's in Lakewood, Colorado, 200
bucks, and she says, Put your

1881
02:01:20,900 --> 02:01:24,620
best foot forward for 2025 with
a resume that gets results, go

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02:01:24,620 --> 02:01:28,760
to Image makers. Inc.com, for
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02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:32,900
job search needs, that's image
makers. Inc, with a K and work

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02:01:32,900 --> 02:01:36,740
with Linda Lou Dutchess of jobs
and writer of resumes, jobs,

1885
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,960
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs. Bye. Job,

1886
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:43,420
karma.

1887
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:51,160
And we are down to our final
Associate Executive Producer, Ed

1888
02:01:52,180 --> 02:01:57,160
leboutier. Ed le butier, Tucson,
Arizona, in the morning, he

1889
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:01,080
says, kudos to Dame Beth for her
meet up in Tucson. Thanks to you

1890
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:04,380
guys for all the great media
deconstruction. And that's it.

1891
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:10,620
That's it. Is this, is, is this?
David, was that 17? What he

1892
02:02:10,620 --> 02:02:14,100
said? It's australian dollar
reduce. Do you think 178

1893
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:20,300
91 has to be? I'll read it.
David. People in Nara, New South

1894
02:02:20,300 --> 02:02:23,420
Wales, 178, 91 which has got to
be over 200 I'll do the

1895
02:02:23,420 --> 02:02:26,060
calculation, but we will bump
him up. Must Be Merry Christmas

1896
02:02:26,060 --> 02:02:29,060
to John and Adam from the Hunter
Valley, Australia. Thanks for

1897
02:02:29,060 --> 02:02:33,080
all you guys do love to you and
your families. Never have an

1898
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:36,440
exit strategy. Thank you. David
Dan, thank you to all of our

1899
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:39,200
executive and Associate
Executive producers, and we will

1900
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:42,640
be thanking those of you came in
$50 and above, and of course, we

1901
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:45,940
always appreciate the sustaining
donations, which you can set up

1902
02:02:45,940 --> 02:02:48,820
yourself at, no agenda
donations.com. No agenda

1903
02:02:48,820 --> 02:02:51,820
donations.com. Again, those
credits that the execs and

1904
02:02:51,820 --> 02:02:54,220
associate execs have, they're
good for life, and you can put

1905
02:02:54,220 --> 02:02:58,240
them anywhere, including your
IMDB. Thanks for producing 1724,

1906
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:03,300
our formula is this, we go out,
we hit people in the mouth.

1907
02:03:11,340 --> 02:03:12,900
They're eating the dogs.

1908
02:03:16,020 --> 02:03:16,920
Never gets old,

1909
02:03:18,420 --> 02:03:20,600
just never gets old. Never gets
old.

1910
02:03:23,780 --> 02:03:27,680
Let me see there were a couple
other things that we needed to

1911
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:31,340
talk about. Let's get these
China clips out of the way. You

1912
02:03:31,340 --> 02:03:35,240
got some China clips, all right?
I like China. I have a couple

1913
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:40,480
China minerals. China's
dominance over the supply of

1914
02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:43,060
critical minerals in the
spotlight today, the select

1915
02:03:43,060 --> 02:03:45,520
committee on the Chinese
Communist Party details their

1916
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:49,840
findings and proposed solutions,
and today's Melina Weiss cup was

1917
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:53,620
at that meeting on Capitol Hill.
She brings us the latest and

1918
02:03:53,620 --> 02:03:56,440
they listed their findings after
investigating the ways in which

1919
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:58,960
the US is dependent on the
Chinese Communist Party for

1920
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:01,440
critical minerals. Why is this
important? Because those

1921
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:04,560
critical minerals are used to
produce key elements such as

1922
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:07,800
semiconductors, anything from
basic consumer goods all the way

1923
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,080
up to advanced military
technology. So it's a real

1924
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:12,720
problem, the fact that the
Chinese Communist Party has

1925
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,120
dominance over those minerals.
So what they lawmakers did is

1926
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:18,720
they tried to find ways in the
US that we can streamline the

1927
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:21,740
production and processing here
mine for those minerals and try

1928
02:04:21,740 --> 02:04:24,140
to loosen up some of the
dominance the Chinese Communist

1929
02:04:24,140 --> 02:04:27,140
Party has over them. They're
also today introducing three

1930
02:04:27,140 --> 02:04:30,080
pieces of bipartisan legislation
that is Republicans and

1931
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:32,960
Democrats coming together to try
to find solutions in this area,

1932
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:36,800
to help us be more independent
in the critical minerals arena.

1933
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:40,220
I spoke to the Chairman John
Molinar about their efforts

1934
02:04:40,220 --> 02:04:42,640
here. Why is it crucial to
address this issue? Here's what

1935
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,160
he told me, as well as one of
the Democrats that's also on

1936
02:04:45,160 --> 02:04:48,100
this committee, listen, what do
you think is the most crucial

1937
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:51,160
step that will have the most
beneficial outcome? You know, I

1938
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:54,880
think the area of allowing the
Department of Interior the

1939
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:59,920
Secretary to do an analysis of
what friendly nation.

1940
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,480
We can work with who already are
mining, who already are

1941
02:05:03,660 --> 02:05:07,920
processing, and identifying how
we can immediately lessen our

1942
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,860
dependence. To me, that's a very
good first step, and then we

1943
02:05:10,860 --> 02:05:13,560
need to build the stronger
infrastructure of doing things

1944
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:13,860
here.

1945
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:20,420
Okay, this morning, by the way,
there was a report they're going

1946
02:05:20,420 --> 02:05:21,440
after Apple

1947
02:05:22,580 --> 02:05:26,000
the Republic of Congo, or the
Democratic Republic of Congo, or

1948
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:31,160
the Congo for slave labor, slave
labor, children. Well, it seems

1949
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:35,720
as if the Rwandans are going
into the Congo and stealing

1950
02:05:35,780 --> 02:05:38,840
minerals, which are then used in
the Apple iPhone. Even though

1951
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:42,820
this is a stretch, it's China.
They don't even mention China,

1952
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,600
because China is the one that
makes the Apple iPhone. It's,

1953
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:49,720
they're not making it in, you
know, here in Milpitas.

1954
02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:53,980
Well, it's assembled in the USA.

1955
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:58,780
We're not using the minerals
here. The minerals aren't going

1956
02:05:58,780 --> 02:06:03,300
here, no. So there's something
sketchy about this. There's

1957
02:06:03,300 --> 02:06:06,180
trying to gouge the apple. I
think they're just putting it

1958
02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:10,800
well, you know, Apple is on deck
to be gouged. Apple is we think,

1959
02:06:10,860 --> 02:06:13,620
yeah, yeah. I think they've been
gouging their customers for

1960
02:06:13,620 --> 02:06:16,200
years. So there you have that.
Yeah, but they're on deck to be

1961
02:06:16,260 --> 02:06:19,140
usurped by someone. Somehow,
something's gonna happen. They

1962
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:24,080
have not had, how I'm gonna use
the phrase a moon shot since

1963
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:27,980
Steve Jobs died. You know,
that's the stupid Apple vision

1964
02:06:27,980 --> 02:06:32,060
Pro, which I like the idea of
spatial computing. But no, they

1965
02:06:32,060 --> 02:06:34,520
don't really have anything. It's
just because they're, they're

1966
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:38,840
Apple intelligence. They can
make emojis. Man, I tell you,

1967
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,680
every single one of the
millennials, so these are all

1968
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:47,740
between 25 and 28 years old at
the Christmas Shindig. They love

1969
02:06:47,740 --> 02:06:51,940
my flip phone. They're like,
this is cool. I want this. They

1970
02:06:51,940 --> 02:06:53,200
all wanted that flip phone.

1971
02:06:55,420 --> 02:06:58,900
And I'm not sure why exactly

1972
02:06:59,980 --> 02:07:04,440
did you ask? Yeah. I said, Why
exactly? And I said, Well, it's

1973
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:08,640
different. And everybody, you
know, they all, I will say, they

1974
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:12,540
all have set limits on they've
removed tick tock. They've all

1975
02:07:12,540 --> 02:07:15,900
removed tick tock. It's like,
no, no, I had to, I had to get

1976
02:07:15,900 --> 02:07:20,280
stuff done. I had to remove tick
tock. I was addicted to tick

1977
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:24,200
tock. They say that hands down.
And so you can put limits. I,

1978
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,480
I'm, I don't know if it's on
Android, but you can, on the

1979
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:29,720
Apple iPhone, you can put a,
like a two hours per day limit,

1980
02:07:30,380 --> 02:07:33,380
and then after the two hours up,
you can't use two hours of

1981
02:07:33,380 --> 02:07:35,480
Tiktok. No. Instagram.

1982
02:07:36,620 --> 02:07:38,300
Oh, even worse. Yeah,

1983
02:07:39,380 --> 02:07:42,760
yeah. I'll play part two of this
clips. Now there are several

1984
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:45,160
issues at hand here, but one of
the main issues that we heard

1985
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:48,100
from all of the lawmakers is the
issue of processing. So in a

1986
02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:51,040
sense, what happens is that when
we do have those minerals, we

1987
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,980
send them to China for the
processing and then buy them

1988
02:07:53,980 --> 02:07:56,620
back. So we're essentially
losing money to be able to have

1989
02:07:56,620 --> 02:07:59,260
that processing done in China,
and at the same time giving the

1990
02:07:59,260 --> 02:08:01,980
Chinese Communist Party more
control over those critical

1991
02:08:01,980 --> 02:08:05,520
minerals. Now, the chairman also
listed how dependent we are, so

1992
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,160
I'll just give you a couple of
examples here. So the Chinese

1993
02:08:08,160 --> 02:08:13,620
Communist Party processes 95% of
the world's manganese, 73% of

1994
02:08:13,620 --> 02:08:17,880
its cobalt, 70% of the graphite,
and 3% of global nickel. So you

1995
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:20,540
can see how much of a hand the
Chinese Communist Party really

1996
02:08:20,540 --> 02:08:23,360
has over those key minerals. One
Congressman that I spoke to had

1997
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:26,960
very interesting ideas. He gave
an example of lithium and the

1998
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:31,040
innovation that could be used in
order to make lithium obsolete,

1999
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:33,680
in a sense, so that we could
change the game, change the way

2000
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:36,500
things are working, so that all
of the money and research that

2001
02:08:36,500 --> 02:08:40,660
the Chinese Communist Party has
put into those minerals could be

2002
02:08:40,660 --> 02:08:43,060
pointless, and then we could
really have the upper hand.

2003
02:08:43,060 --> 02:08:46,420
Listen what this Congressman had
to say. Maybe, maybe lithium

2004
02:08:46,420 --> 02:08:49,840
becomes obsolete. It's not
needed because of any material

2005
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:53,260
that can actually do it better
than lithium. And then what

2006
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:56,200
you've done is you've changed
the paradigm so they stifle it

2007
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,780
here, where we do it much
cleaner. And so what happens?

2008
02:08:59,020 --> 02:09:03,540
The capacity is shipped over
overseas, to to China, where

2009
02:09:03,540 --> 02:09:06,060
they don't really care about the
environment. I mean, all you got

2010
02:09:06,060 --> 02:09:10,440
to do is go to China. I was
there about seven years ago. I

2011
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:13,500
didn't see the sun for 10 days.
Why? Because all the pollution.

2012
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:18,180
No. Brother, hmm, yeah, you
know, then get rid of the

2013
02:09:18,180 --> 02:09:21,020
lithium and use something
different. Yeah. I mean, come

2014
02:09:21,380 --> 02:09:22,940
on, what are you gonna use?

2015
02:09:24,140 --> 02:09:27,080
They finally, I think they're
trying to pass bills now to

2016
02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:31,760
outlaw, you know, unapproved or
non certified lithium ion

2017
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:36,740
batteries, particularly ones
using E bikes, etc, no, because,

2018
02:09:36,740 --> 02:09:40,540
you know, New York is like, this
stuff is burning down buildings,

2019
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:44,860
yeah. Well, these things are
dangerous. They just Yeah, stop.

2020
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:47,920
You know, publishing, what about
the climate change agenda?

2021
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:49,540
They're bringing it on
themselves. How about

2022
02:09:49,540 --> 02:09:52,000
themselves? How about this
pedal?

2023
02:09:53,260 --> 02:09:57,640
It's the concept, what pedal?
Actually? Pedal a bike. Pedal

2024
02:09:57,640 --> 02:09:59,920
your bike. Yes, I'm.

2025
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,380
Launching this new meme, pedal
your bike. You don't need an E

2026
02:10:04,380 --> 02:10:09,720
bike. Just pedal. It's good for
you. You'll be healthy. You get

2027
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:11,820
your you know, with gear, with
the something, there's a

2028
02:10:11,820 --> 02:10:15,180
process. It's a mechanical
process called gears. No, yes,

2029
02:10:15,180 --> 02:10:19,080
you can actually pedal fast. You
can pedal faster and faster and

2030
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:23,300
faster with the same basic
effort. But who because of

2031
02:10:23,300 --> 02:10:27,680
gears. But who are we kidding?
John, these are the coffee

2032
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:28,460
Badgers,

2033
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:37,640
the coffee badgers. Badgers,
coffee coffee badgers. Yes, it's

2034
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:42,220
a concept called Coffee badging.
Yeah, I never heard this,

2035
02:10:42,280 --> 02:10:47,080
neither had I but here's a CNBC
report on the topic meet Mr. A

2036
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,860
every morning. Mr. A strolls
into the office at 9am swiping

2037
02:10:50,860 --> 02:10:53,740
his badge with perfect
enthusiasm. He hits a few

2038
02:10:53,740 --> 02:10:56,560
meetings, grabs coffee with
colleagues, and keeps the daily

2039
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,980
buzz going. But here's the
twist, come noon, he sneaks out,

2040
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:03,720
heading home to wrap up his work
in comfort. By around five, he's

2041
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,600
clocked out. Mission
accomplished. Mr. A has

2042
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:09,120
redefined the nine to five in
his own terms. And

2043
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:13,380
interestingly, this trend also
has an a new trend emerging in

2044
02:11:13,380 --> 02:11:17,160
the back to Office push, and
that is coffee badging. Coffee

2045
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:20,900
badging is two worlds colliding.
It's employers wanting to get

2046
02:11:20,900 --> 02:11:24,260
their workers back into the
office, and employees desire to

2047
02:11:24,260 --> 02:11:27,800
really have more flexibility on
the job. And so that's coming

2048
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,560
together in this trend of coffee
badging. Coffee badging is

2049
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:33,620
happening because workers are
using this as a soft revolt

2050
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:37,040
against their return to Office
mandates that companies have put

2051
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:40,660
out, and they just like, badge
in, have a coffee, check in with

2052
02:11:40,660 --> 02:11:44,140
their colleagues, do some work,
and then leave their office

2053
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:48,400
early. There it is coffee
badging. Why is it called Coffee

2054
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:51,580
badging? Because you use your
badge to check in because, you

2055
02:11:51,580 --> 02:11:54,040
know, we don't know this
anymore, yeah. Well, what's the

2056
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:54,580
guy? Wait,

2057
02:11:56,260 --> 02:11:59,740
I have a cup of coffee. But I
guess it has, you had to have a

2058
02:11:59,740 --> 02:12:01,980
cup of coffee, don't you that?
Mean, it sounds like no, no. You

2059
02:12:01,980 --> 02:12:06,120
have no. You're misunderstanding
the process is you sign in with

2060
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,700
your badge every every office.
We don't know this anymore,

2061
02:12:08,700 --> 02:12:09,900
because we don't have an office.

2062
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:13,620
You walk into the, I know the
process, you have a little

2063
02:12:13,620 --> 02:12:16,740
badge. Yeah, everyone's checked.
And the cool gig, the cool kids,

2064
02:12:16,740 --> 02:12:19,680
have a badge on a kind of a
spring thing. You pull it out of

2065
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:23,840
a of a thing, and you and then
you let it go, and it snaps back

2066
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:28,400
back. Yes. Okay, so you're now
registered, because everything

2067
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:30,740
these days is registered, and
you know, that's why they have

2068
02:12:30,740 --> 02:12:34,040
the mouse movers and all this.
Yeah, this is the now, I'm not

2069
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:36,920
exactly sure, but I guess it's
somehow different than having a

2070
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:39,620
punch clock. It's the same
thing.

2071
02:12:42,140 --> 02:12:44,620
Yes, then you get on your bake,
a light phone,

2072
02:12:46,780 --> 02:12:50,860
and you send some memos from
your typewriter, but yes. And

2073
02:12:50,860 --> 02:12:53,200
then so you go in, you do a
meet. He's checking with her,

2074
02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:57,520
hey, hey, good morning. GM, how
you doing everybody? Pura Vida,

2075
02:12:58,060 --> 02:13:01,080
Okay, how's it going? And you do
a meeting. And then at noon, you

2076
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:03,780
triple out, and you go home and
you sit on your laptop, or you

2077
02:13:03,780 --> 02:13:08,040
have your mouse mover working,
that we have no productivity, or

2078
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,260
we have too much middle
management that doesn't need to

2079
02:13:10,260 --> 02:13:13,020
be here. That's probably the
real problem. Well, that's the

2080
02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:15,840
real deal. But what's what's got
to do with coffee

2081
02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:20,040
well, because you go in and you
say hi to everybody around the

2082
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:23,180
coffee machine. That's so
everyone sees your face.

2083
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:27,380
So looks like, you know, we I
saw him this morning. Yeah, he's

2084
02:13:27,380 --> 02:13:30,440
around. He's probably in his Oh,
I see his mouse is moving. He's

2085
02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:31,220
in the office.

2086
02:13:34,220 --> 02:13:37,340
Okay, yeah, I have another
there's a phrase that I heard

2087
02:13:37,340 --> 02:13:40,960
over the over dinner, and I want
you to tell me if you know this

2088
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:46,180
phrase, what? What is it when a
person dips? When a person dips?

2089
02:13:46,780 --> 02:13:52,480
Yeah, yeah, this I'm told by Jay
and Brandon, oh, everybody knows

2090
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:53,380
this term.

2091
02:13:56,200 --> 02:14:00,040
I have to say I am not familiar
with the term. I didn't know it.

2092
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:03,060
Either. I don't know. I've never
heard it. Is it dipping tobacco?

2093
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:06,960
That's, well, that would be odd.
That would be what it should

2094
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:11,640
mean, yeah, yeah, no. It means
Leave, leave.

2095
02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:14,400
That's dipping you dip.

2096
02:14:16,500 --> 02:14:21,080
Yeah. They were talking about Oh
yeah. JC and just gonna come

2097
02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:22,400
over, then they're gonna dip.

2098
02:14:24,320 --> 02:14:26,840
That's what she said. Just says
this. And of course, anybody

2099
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:30,140
that says stuff like this at my
table, they get a they get a

2100
02:14:30,140 --> 02:14:31,760
grilling. I'm not that old,

2101
02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:37,100
so I bring it up. What is this
supposed to mean? What is this

2102
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:41,060
an idea? Are you gonna start
using this kind of street art?

2103
02:14:41,060 --> 02:14:44,320
Gotcha Yes, at the table. Well,
if you're gonna end up being

2104
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:47,440
grilled about it, yes, and what
kind of gang member you're

2105
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:48,880
getting this from, well, you

2106
02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:53,860
should tell them is, if you do
that, you're a dipshit. There

2107
02:14:53,860 --> 02:14:57,640
you go. Actually, there's a
dipshit gag that was involved in

2108
02:14:57,940 --> 02:14:59,920
the whole thing. But, well, you
know who?

2109
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:00,960
Not dipping

2110
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:06,000
is these poor astronauts who are
still on the space station, more

2111
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:09,180
than six months after starting
what was supposed to be an eight

2112
02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:13,560
day mission to the International
Space Station. Astronauts Sunita

2113
02:15:13,560 --> 02:15:16,620
Williams and her space station
family are now preparing to

2114
02:15:16,620 --> 02:15:19,800
spend the holidays right there
in space. Welcome to the

2115
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:22,880
International Space Station as
we get ready for the Christmas

2116
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:26,600
holidays, it's a great time of
year up here. We get to spend it

2117
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:30,620
with all of our family up on the
International Space Station.

2118
02:15:30,620 --> 02:15:33,500
There's seven of us up here, and
so we're going to get to enjoy

2119
02:15:33,500 --> 02:15:37,460
company together. Williams and
fellow astronaut Butch Wilmore

2120
02:15:37,460 --> 02:15:41,440
were less stuck aboard the ISS
back in June, after a leak in

2121
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:46,000
their Boeing spacecraft made
their return trip impossible, a

2122
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:50,440
SpaceX resupply mission gave
them gifts and fresh ingredients

2123
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:53,740
to make special meals just for
the holidays. The pair were

2124
02:15:53,740 --> 02:15:57,280
supposed to come home back in
February, but a delay in

2125
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,980
launching their replacements
means they'll actually have to

2126
02:15:59,980 --> 02:16:06,120
wait until March or April to
come back to Earth. Something is

2127
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:10,140
wrong here. Elon, I agree, but I
tell you, the overtime must be

2128
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:11,700
unbelievable.

2129
02:16:14,580 --> 02:16:18,000
Elon, you know, had the
opportunity to be the hero, to

2130
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:24,860
show to shine all over Boeing to
send up a starship and bring

2131
02:16:24,860 --> 02:16:29,360
them back home safely. Instead,
he sends up hats and a Christmas

2132
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:35,240
tree and a canned ham. You know,
I'm thinking there's, there's an

2133
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,900
issue with the docking, or that
there's been so many maybe this,

2134
02:16:38,960 --> 02:16:41,860
maybe this thing is a dud,
maybe, maybe they can't dock

2135
02:16:41,860 --> 02:16:42,520
anymore.

2136
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:45,460
I have a bad feeling about this.

2137
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:51,040
It doesn't make sense. And yeah,
Elon should have brought him

2138
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:53,620
back in February. Should have
been done deal that would have

2139
02:16:53,620 --> 02:16:57,940
been perfect. Yeah, now they put
it off another month or two, not

2140
02:16:57,940 --> 02:17:00,540
more than that, march, march or
april,

2141
02:17:02,340 --> 02:17:04,140
month or two or three.

2142
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:10,140
Okay, on Elon, just for a
moment,

2143
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:16,020
we're still the M 5m. Is still
trying to break up the bromance

2144
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:20,540
between Elon and President Trump
and Jen pasaki, who was clearly

2145
02:17:20,540 --> 02:17:24,260
drunk in this clip is adding her
part. So now, of course there's

2146
02:17:24,260 --> 02:17:27,140
lots of speculation about when
his Tell me that's not drunk.

2147
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:28,340
Wow,

2148
02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:33,380
plastered. So now, of course
there's lots of

2149
02:17:36,260 --> 02:17:38,900
speculation. So now, of course
there's lots of speculation

2150
02:17:38,900 --> 02:17:43,120
about when his this relationship
might, as has happened so many

2151
02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:46,420
times over the years, with
Trump's generals and people,

2152
02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:49,600
feels kind of inevitable, right?
I mean, the thing is, this is

2153
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:52,540
not going to be the same,
though, as Trump casting aside a

2154
02:17:52,540 --> 02:17:56,200
Scaramucci or Rex Tillerson,
because Elon Musk is the richest

2155
02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:59,200
man in the world. He owns a
social media megaphone, a

2156
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:03,180
platform where he has over 200
million followers, and we just

2157
02:18:03,180 --> 02:18:06,840
saw the power he wields over the
Republican Party. He also has

2158
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:09,180
billions of dollars in
government contracts. I mean,

2159
02:18:09,180 --> 02:18:12,660
we're relying on Space X rockets
to get American astronauts to

2160
02:18:12,660 --> 02:18:16,860
space and back. This is not an
easy relationship to untangle my

2161
02:18:16,860 --> 02:18:21,020
point. So yes, I mean, this
breakup could happen, but if it

2162
02:18:21,020 --> 02:18:24,680
does, and it may take longer
than we suspect, I do think if

2163
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:27,740
it does, it's going to be very,
very messy.

2164
02:18:30,020 --> 02:18:34,040
Wow, that's an in depth report
that brought nothing to the

2165
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:37,160
party or the table. Why? But she
was, yeah,

2166
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:44,860
it's a lead in to what, by the
way, wasn't Elon Musk going to

2167
02:18:44,860 --> 02:18:50,620
buy MSNBC, you dopes. Well, that
was that. That was a lark that

2168
02:18:50,620 --> 02:18:53,740
he put, somebody put out there,
and then someone amplified it.

2169
02:18:53,740 --> 02:18:57,400
But it all freaked out. I will
say it's getting to Trump just a

2170
02:18:57,400 --> 02:19:00,540
little bit, just a tiny, tiny
bit. As you saw, the President

2171
02:19:00,540 --> 02:19:03,120
Elect acknowledged the line that
Democrats have really seemed to

2172
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:07,260
latch on to during the budget
negotiations. President musk,

2173
02:19:07,260 --> 02:19:10,080
take a listen to one response
that the President had,

2174
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:12,720
President Elect at Russia,
Russia, Russia, Ukraine,

2175
02:19:12,720 --> 02:19:16,560
Ukraine, Ukraine, all the
different hoaxes. The new one is

2176
02:19:17,340 --> 02:19:23,900
President Trump has ceded the
presidency to Elon must? No, no,

2177
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:26,180
that's not happening.

2178
02:19:28,880 --> 02:19:32,900
But Elon has done an amazing
job. Isn't it nice to have smart

2179
02:19:32,900 --> 02:19:34,220
people that we could rely on?

2180
02:19:35,420 --> 02:19:38,900
I think it's getting to him just
a little bit well, they they

2181
02:19:38,900 --> 02:19:42,280
know how to needle fraud him,
and they've been doing it, and

2182
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:46,300
they don't do it just a little
bit, they all team up. And I

2183
02:19:46,300 --> 02:19:49,900
think it, I mean, he knows
what's going on, but he's

2184
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:53,980
it does. But I think it bothers
him, Chris, it does, but it has

2185
02:19:53,980 --> 02:19:57,280
been fantastic because Elon
takes all the arrows and he just

2186
02:19:57,280 --> 02:19:59,920
sits in Mar a Lago. I think Elon
is a guy.

2187
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,780
That is the perfect foil.
Fantastic. He can put up with

2188
02:20:03,780 --> 02:20:08,100
it. He's Asperger's, you know,
plus plus one. And he's like,

2189
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:12,360
you know, I don't seem to care.
He's he's more impervious to

2190
02:20:12,360 --> 02:20:16,560
complaints than than Trump is,
speaking of Asperger's plus.

2191
02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:21,380
This was a very interesting
interview with our Pennsylvania

2192
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:22,220
friend,

2193
02:20:24,140 --> 02:20:28,220
Senator John Fetterman, which, I
think what was this on, was

2194
02:20:28,220 --> 02:20:33,980
this, I think it was ABC. And I
don't even know if, if he knows

2195
02:20:33,980 --> 02:20:36,860
what he was saying, because they
cut this, you know, because he's

2196
02:20:36,860 --> 02:20:41,320
very his speeches, although his
speech is better, he just goes

2197
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:45,040
off the rails. He does the
weave, but never comes back. And

2198
02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,500
they edited this. There must
have been, I stopped counting

2199
02:20:47,500 --> 02:20:52,060
after 1010, edits in this one
piece, and he's like, Oh, I'm

2200
02:20:52,060 --> 02:20:54,820
kind of, you know, we got to
stop this nonsense. He's pro

2201
02:20:54,820 --> 02:20:58,600
Trump. It was, I thought he is
really interesting. I'm just a

2202
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:02,700
regular Democrat. I'm not
leaving my party, but I'm not

2203
02:21:02,700 --> 02:21:05,820
sure why some of the things that
I've chosen to do, like meeting

2204
02:21:05,820 --> 02:21:10,140
with nominees and having views
that might be more aligned with

2205
02:21:10,140 --> 02:21:14,040
some of the Republican side, I
think that's part of politics.

2206
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:18,420
Like I've been warning people
like, You got to chill out, you

2207
02:21:18,420 --> 02:21:23,480
know, like the constant, you
know, freak out. It's not

2208
02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:27,920
helpful. So, you know, pack a
lunch. Pace yourself.

2209
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:32,900
He hasn't even taken office yet,
because I'm not rooting against

2210
02:21:32,900 --> 02:21:36,500
him. If you're rooting against
the president, you are rooting

2211
02:21:36,500 --> 02:21:41,500
against the nation and and I'm
not ever going to be where I

2212
02:21:41,500 --> 02:21:47,680
want a president to fail so
country first. I know that it's

2213
02:21:47,800 --> 02:21:52,060
become maybe like a cliche, but
it happens to be truth. You have

2214
02:21:52,060 --> 02:21:54,940
a singular political talent.

2215
02:21:57,400 --> 02:22:03,660
It's undeniable. Trump, you
know, he had the energy and

2216
02:22:03,660 --> 02:22:08,280
almost a sense of fearlessness
to just say all those kinds of

2217
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:13,020
thing and people, it's, it's
undeniable that it has an

2218
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:18,120
entertaining aspect for that
too. I never believed that it

2219
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:22,820
was about fascism, and for me,
that made it difficult for

2220
02:22:22,820 --> 02:22:25,220
Harris said that he was a
fascist. Well, it's like, that's

2221
02:22:25,220 --> 02:22:29,300
a prerogative. I mean, but, but
it's not a word that I would

2222
02:22:29,300 --> 02:22:32,720
use, because you put a lot of
Democrats, especially in my

2223
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:36,380
state, that I know, and I happen
to love, people that are going

2224
02:22:36,380 --> 02:22:41,560
to vote for Trump, and they are
not fascist. And also fascism.

2225
02:22:41,860 --> 02:22:45,220
That's not a word that regular
people, you know, use that, you

2226
02:22:45,220 --> 02:22:48,940
know, I think people are going
to decide who is the candidate

2227
02:22:48,940 --> 02:22:53,020
that's going to protect and
project, you know, my version of

2228
02:22:53,020 --> 02:22:55,480
the American way of life. And
that's what happened.

2229
02:22:55,720 --> 02:22:59,500
Unbelievable. He's, he's, I'm
glad you got that clip. He's an

2230
02:22:59,500 --> 02:23:03,960
okay guy. He's an okay guy. The
one point he makes in there,

2231
02:23:03,960 --> 02:23:06,600
which I didn't consider at the
time, but it should have been

2232
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:10,080
considered, which is, he's right
about the word fascist. Nobody

2233
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:12,660
knows what that means. Yeah,
they think they do.

2234
02:23:14,340 --> 02:23:17,220
You know, there's just, it's
just like, it's a term from

2235
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:20,840
World War Two and before, I
mean, it became a thing in the

2236
02:23:20,840 --> 02:23:25,460
20s, and it became a movement
Fauci out of Italy, actually.

2237
02:23:26,180 --> 02:23:29,480
And then it became a party, and
then it became part of the Nazi

2238
02:23:32,120 --> 02:23:37,100
ethos, and say. And then it
disappeared from use, and it

2239
02:23:37,100 --> 02:23:42,280
hasn't been used since, in any
real sense, ever since. And so

2240
02:23:42,280 --> 02:23:46,060
what 20 year old or 30 year old
even knows what it means or

2241
02:23:46,060 --> 02:23:51,100
cares? Well, the Democrats are
pounding it out fascism fashion

2242
02:23:51,160 --> 02:23:53,380
lie of the year. It should have
been. But no,

2243
02:23:54,640 --> 02:23:59,560
yeah, he's, he's got a he's very
common sense. Ish, yeah. And by

2244
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:03,000
the way, the Italian guys, 40
and over, they understand what

2245
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:06,300
Fascism is, because they say the
European Union, Brussels

2246
02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:07,860
fascist. And they're right,

2247
02:24:09,420 --> 02:24:11,820
that's the definition of
fascism, right there, yeah.

2248
02:24:11,820 --> 02:24:15,240
Well, the Italy's really, you
know, was the foundation of

2249
02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:17,940
fascism. And so they would, they
invent have it in their culture

2250
02:24:17,940 --> 02:24:20,720
and in their history. They
invented it. They know what it's

2251
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:24,380
about. They invented it. They
did good at it. It was and by

2252
02:24:24,380 --> 02:24:27,380
the way, it was an academic
movement out of the

2253
02:24:27,380 --> 02:24:30,980
universities. You know, we went
to a winery while we were in

2254
02:24:30,980 --> 02:24:36,860
Florence. We went to the
Castillo de versano, yeah, and I

2255
02:24:36,860 --> 02:24:41,500
did not know that the Verrazano
guy who has the castle there

2256
02:24:41,500 --> 02:24:44,800
where they still do Chianti
wine, that he's the guy that

2257
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:48,580
discovered the Hudson Bay, and
that's the Verrazano Narrows

2258
02:24:48,580 --> 02:24:53,800
Bridge is named after him. Yeah,
I didn't know that. Yeah, would

2259
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:56,860
you and you know how we, how we,
how we ended up

2260
02:24:58,240 --> 02:24:59,920
dead? Yes. Do you know how.

2261
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,760
Do you know how he ended dead?
No, you get

2262
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:06,900
well, he went on to discover the
Bahamas, and then there were

2263
02:25:06,900 --> 02:25:08,160
cannibals, and they ate him.

2264
02:25:09,900 --> 02:25:11,940
Well, that's what Joe Biden got
that story.

2265
02:25:13,140 --> 02:25:17,580
They tell you that on the tour
they have behind the Bahamians,

2266
02:25:17,940 --> 02:25:21,320
Bahamians cannibalism going on,
and they ate this guy. That's

2267
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:24,080
the story. They're looking for,
an Italian meal. Was that the

2268
02:25:24,080 --> 02:25:27,680
deal? Yes, pasta. Here we go get
this Verrazano guy.

2269
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:33,440
So while they're while Fetterman
is all lovey dovey with Trump,

2270
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:40,180
they the Congress the house
decided to screw gates, who's

2271
02:25:40,180 --> 02:25:43,360
been doing some screwing of his
own, a new house ethics report

2272
02:25:43,360 --> 02:25:45,940
is out accusing former
congressman Matt gates of

2273
02:25:45,940 --> 02:25:49,900
violating state laws regarding
prostitution, statutory rape and

2274
02:25:49,900 --> 02:25:54,280
drug use. The 37 page report
finds that gates paid women for

2275
02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:58,240
sex or drugs on at least 20
occasions, and includes text

2276
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:01,860
message screenshots where gates
asked women to bring, quote, a

2277
02:26:01,860 --> 02:26:05,520
full compliment of party favors
hotel. The committee says that

2278
02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:10,620
this was a code word for ecstasy
or other drugs. Another exchange

2279
02:26:10,620 --> 02:26:14,280
shared by the committee an
unnamed woman and gates seem to

2280
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:18,240
be arguing over pay. When she
asks gates, quote, so I'm not to

2281
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:21,620
be taken care of for last week,
Gates respond saying, quote, I

2282
02:26:21,620 --> 02:26:25,160
gave you 250 today and about
last week says, quote, You gave

2283
02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:28,520
me a drive by now, Gates is
striking back at the report on

2284
02:26:28,520 --> 02:26:31,520
his ex account, hosting or
reposting about it more than 30

2285
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:35,660
times since its release, writing
in part, quote, they did this to

2286
02:26:35,660 --> 02:26:38,540
me in a Christmas Eve Eve
report, and not in a courtroom

2287
02:26:38,540 --> 02:26:41,560
of any kind where I could
present evidence and challenge

2288
02:26:41,620 --> 02:26:45,040
witnesses. Trump, meantime,
continues to stand by gates late

2289
02:26:45,040 --> 02:26:48,040
last night, Gates posting this
picture with the caption, I got

2290
02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:50,500
a great note from President
Trump. The note is written on a

2291
02:26:50,500 --> 02:26:54,160
printed headline of the story
and reads, Matt, very unfair.

2292
02:26:55,180 --> 02:26:55,840
So it was like $100,000

2293
02:26:58,180 --> 02:27:00,900
for 10 escorts.

2294
02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:06,000
Yes, there was a that that is
kind of distressing, eight

2295
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:09,960
grand, but the other there's
other 100 grand. Yeah, there's a

2296
02:27:10,020 --> 02:27:12,540
there's other aspects of the
story that should be noted.

2297
02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:13,980
Yeah, and there's three of them.

2298
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:20,040
First off, the woman who accused
gates, dude said she was 17 and

2299
02:27:20,040 --> 02:27:25,880
accused accused gates. She's,
I'm, according to one news

2300
02:27:25,880 --> 02:27:29,660
report, and the reporter seems
to be a real guy who used to

2301
02:27:29,660 --> 02:27:33,980
work for Associated Press,
claims she's actually in jail

2302
02:27:34,040 --> 02:27:38,060
for pulling the stunt of sexual
accusations. Oh, interesting.

2303
02:27:38,060 --> 02:27:42,280
And she's in the slammer, okay?
And so there's that one thing.

2304
02:27:42,280 --> 02:27:46,300
The second thing is that lot of
this is set up so gates can sue

2305
02:27:46,900 --> 02:27:50,860
Congress over the release of
this information. Interesting,

2306
02:27:50,860 --> 02:27:53,560
because they're not supposed to
do so there's a lawsuit that's

2307
02:27:53,560 --> 02:27:56,680
possible. And if this woman's in
prison, I think that could, that

2308
02:27:56,680 --> 02:28:01,200
could go through. And the third
thing is, Marjorie Taylor Green

2309
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:04,680
has come out, and I think
reasonably So, and says, if

2310
02:28:04,680 --> 02:28:06,900
we're going to start releasing
this sort of thing, let's

2311
02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:10,620
release all these. We have a ton
of these things backed up. Of

2312
02:28:10,620 --> 02:28:13,920
all the bribes that have been
going on from Congress have paid

2313
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:19,260
off, you know, pages and
bookers, $27 million yeah, it's

2314
02:28:19,260 --> 02:28:22,460
some huge amount. It's a huge
amount. If you're going to

2315
02:28:22,460 --> 02:28:25,580
release this one report, let's
release all the reports and

2316
02:28:25,580 --> 02:28:29,660
later, let it go. Yeah, and I
think she's right. Good idea.

2317
02:28:29,660 --> 02:28:32,840
That would be fun, good for the
show. That'd be great fun for

2318
02:28:32,840 --> 02:28:36,140
the show. And I bet you'd be
great for this show, bitch. And

2319
02:28:36,140 --> 02:28:39,380
Nancy Pelosi has a couple of
them on her name, you wouldn't

2320
02:28:39,380 --> 02:28:43,240
be surprised. Yes. And then
there's this, this report, which

2321
02:28:45,100 --> 02:28:49,840
I'm troubled by both parties in
our country, about this, Donald

2322
02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:52,240
Trump's team criticizing
President Biden after his

2323
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:55,600
decision to commute the
sentences of most federal death

2324
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,300
row inmates to life in prison, a
spokesperson for Trump's

2325
02:28:58,300 --> 02:29:00,900
transition team saying, quote,
these are among the worst

2326
02:29:00,900 --> 02:29:04,380
killers in the world, and this
abhorrent decision by Joe Biden

2327
02:29:04,680 --> 02:29:07,380
is a slap in the face to the
victims, their families and

2328
02:29:07,380 --> 02:29:10,020
their loved ones. President
Trump stands for the rule of

2329
02:29:10,020 --> 02:29:13,260
law, which will return when he
is back in the White House after

2330
02:29:13,260 --> 02:29:16,140
he was elected with a massive
mandate from the American

2331
02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:19,260
people, early yesterday, the
White House announcing Biden is

2332
02:29:19,260 --> 02:29:23,960
taking 37 people off a federal
death row, not commuting, three

2333
02:29:23,960 --> 02:29:27,320
individuals, one of two brothers
responsible for the Boston

2334
02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:30,140
Marathon bombing, Dylann Roof
who killed nine people at a

2335
02:29:30,140 --> 02:29:33,380
historically black church in
Charleston, South Carolina, and

2336
02:29:33,380 --> 02:29:36,800
Robert Bowers, who killed 11 at
Pittsburgh Tree of Life

2337
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:40,420
synagogue. In a statement, Biden
pushed back against the use of

2338
02:29:40,420 --> 02:29:43,540
the death penalty at the federal
level, saying, quote, make no

2339
02:29:43,540 --> 02:29:46,360
mistake, I condemn these
murderers. Grieve for the

2340
02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:49,480
victims of their despicable
acts, and eight, for all of the

2341
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:52,300
families who have suffered
unimaginable and irreparable

2342
02:29:52,300 --> 02:29:55,600
loss. And good conscience, I
cannot stand back and let a new

2343
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:58,780
administration resume executions
that I halted the.

2344
02:30:00,300 --> 02:30:04,620
This is so troubling, because on
one hand, you have the Democrats

2345
02:30:04,620 --> 02:30:06,960
and Biden with a moral issue,

2346
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:12,720
saying, Hi, we can't kill
people, but we all want

2347
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:17,580
abortion. And then, yeah, this
has always been the classic

2348
02:30:17,640 --> 02:30:20,960
irony, both the Democrats, the
Republicans, yes, because the

2349
02:30:20,960 --> 02:30:25,580
Republicans are pro life, except
when it comes to executions,

2350
02:30:25,580 --> 02:30:30,140
yes, like, how does the
Democrats are pro death? Except

2351
02:30:30,140 --> 02:30:33,980
when it comes to executions,
it's just like, what? And so

2352
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:39,140
people pick a side and then
Biden screws this, I think is

2353
02:30:39,140 --> 02:30:41,920
that just some other people that
came on and gave testimony about

2354
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:44,980
the testimony, they came out and
discussed this on these shows.

2355
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:48,280
And it's like, if Biden is going
to do this, because he's so

2356
02:30:48,460 --> 02:30:51,880
adamant about the death penalty,
why did he leave the three guys

2357
02:30:51,940 --> 02:30:55,720
still on death row? Yeah, if
you're gonna do it, you you let

2358
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:58,780
everybody off. You don't have
you don't pick three guys as

2359
02:30:58,780 --> 02:31:01,920
well. You know, these guys just
said I drive draw the line with

2360
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:02,280
them.

2361
02:31:03,420 --> 02:31:05,940
It just doesn't make any sense.
I mean,

2362
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:11,520
it's against my morals, any kind
of death. But if you're going to

2363
02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:15,360
do it, give us the television,
right? So we can broadcast live.

2364
02:31:15,540 --> 02:31:19,620
But you've always wanted that.
You know that I want to

2365
02:31:19,620 --> 02:31:22,700
broadcast billionaire move,
that's right. We want the the

2366
02:31:22,700 --> 02:31:25,700
television, right? So the
executions and the abortions,

2367
02:31:25,760 --> 02:31:29,960
it'll end people's thirst for
death forever. But that's

2368
02:31:29,960 --> 02:31:33,320
probably true. Ratings it's a
positive thing to ratings

2369
02:31:33,320 --> 02:31:36,260
bonanza. I'm telling you, it
would be great they have that.

2370
02:31:36,260 --> 02:31:38,840
They used to do, that they used
to have the executions in the in

2371
02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:42,460
the in the town square. Yeah,
they did. Yeah, I know. Then

2372
02:31:42,460 --> 02:31:46,420
we're gonna hide it. Now, hide
it. So I have a clip that's

2373
02:31:46,420 --> 02:31:49,480
interesting. Now, I don't know
that this is true. I don't it's

2374
02:31:49,480 --> 02:31:52,180
it looked like it was a PBS
clip, I think because they

2375
02:31:52,180 --> 02:31:57,700
showed the video, and this is
distressing. And at the same

2376
02:31:57,700 --> 02:32:02,100
time, I like to see it done to
somebody do a scientific version

2377
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:05,280
of it instead of this random
thing. It could be bull crap,

2378
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:10,200
but it doesn't surprise me if it
is true. This clip is the lizard

2379
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:11,160
DNA clip.

2380
02:32:12,900 --> 02:32:16,140
Okay, I wanted to see what would
happen if I sent my pet lizard

2381
02:32:16,140 --> 02:32:20,180
DNA into 23 at me, and so, with
the help of my wife, we

2382
02:32:20,180 --> 02:32:24,500
extracted enough saliva to send
off in the mail. We were so

2383
02:32:24,500 --> 02:32:29,480
excited to see the results.
After about three months, we

2384
02:32:29,480 --> 02:32:34,820
were shocked. My lizard was 51%
Ashkenazi Jewish. He was also

2385
02:32:34,820 --> 02:32:36,560
48% West Asian.

2386
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:41,500
This was really interesting.
They also gave us a little bit

2387
02:32:41,500 --> 02:32:44,680
of his background and his
history, what he liked to eat,

2388
02:32:44,680 --> 02:32:45,280
etc,

2389
02:32:46,660 --> 02:32:51,160
let us know which animals. Yeah,
I don't believe in these DNA

2390
02:32:51,160 --> 02:32:54,100
tests anymore, ever since we
sent off two separate tests for

2391
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:58,720
our dog and they came back
wildly different. It's I don't

2392
02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:04,320
trust it. I think is bogus too,
but I don't I can believe that

2393
02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:08,940
they'd send a lizard saliva in
and get Ashkenazi Jew, which,

2394
02:33:08,940 --> 02:33:11,820
apparently everybody in the
world turns out to be a certain

2395
02:33:11,820 --> 02:33:15,120
percentage of that. Yes, and
that doesn't surprise me, since

2396
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:17,940
the company is founded by the
woman who is married to an

2397
02:33:17,940 --> 02:33:19,320
Ashkenazi Joe. I mean,

2398
02:33:21,420 --> 02:33:24,500
there you go, but it's 23
they're not even in business

2399
02:33:24,500 --> 02:33:25,100
anymore.

2400
02:33:27,140 --> 02:33:31,100
I think they're still doing
testing. Oh no. Why would anyone

2401
02:33:31,100 --> 02:33:33,980
say it doesn't mean they're not
bankrupt, but whatever the case.

2402
02:33:34,280 --> 02:33:40,360
Okay, so we heard, once again,
this is 2024 the hottest year on

2403
02:33:40,360 --> 02:33:44,740
record for climate change due to
climate change. And it was

2404
02:33:44,740 --> 02:33:48,520
interesting to see that it had
not snowed in the Alps, in the

2405
02:33:48,520 --> 02:33:53,860
portion of the mini Alps where
we went with for my brother in

2406
02:33:53,860 --> 02:33:56,860
law's birthday party, there was
snow there for the first time in

2407
02:33:56,860 --> 02:33:59,320
five years, but it still is
still the hottest year on

2408
02:33:59,320 --> 02:34:02,640
record, and they were trying to
keep it up over there on NBC.

2409
02:34:02,760 --> 02:34:06,480
It's the picture perfect
Hollywood holiday, a white

2410
02:34:06,480 --> 02:34:10,380
Christmas full of snow and
wonder movies like It's a

2411
02:34:10,380 --> 02:34:11,280
Wonderful Life, Merry

2412
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:14,040
Christmas, Home Alone,

2413
02:34:16,980 --> 02:34:21,440
elf and countless more. And
before the silver screen came

2414
02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:25,160
Silver Bells, White Christmas
and other iconic songs

2415
02:34:25,220 --> 02:34:29,360
connecting snow and Christmas in
our collective American psyche.

2416
02:34:29,420 --> 02:34:33,080
But now the idea of a white
Christmas may become a thing of

2417
02:34:33,080 --> 02:34:36,620
fiction this week. Mostly
everyone, coast to coast,

2418
02:34:36,620 --> 02:34:40,180
experiencing warmer than average
temperatures, a big reason for

2419
02:34:40,180 --> 02:34:43,120
the difference climate change.
Climate change typically the

2420
02:34:43,120 --> 02:34:46,000
highest chances of a white
Christmas in the US are in the

2421
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:49,300
Upper Midwest, Adirondacks and
northern New England, and in the

2422
02:34:49,300 --> 02:34:53,860
West, higher elevation, Sierra
mountain ranges. But climate

2423
02:34:53,860 --> 02:34:57,640
change is continuing to drive up
temperatures across the nation.

2424
02:34:57,880 --> 02:34:59,920
Just last year, the National
Weather Service.

2425
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:04,860
Service reported only about 17%
of the lower 48 experienced a

2426
02:35:04,860 --> 02:35:08,280
white Christmas with one inch or
more of snow on the ground, the

2427
02:35:08,280 --> 02:35:12,840
lowest number since measuring
that started in 2003 some of the

2428
02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:16,560
biggest cities up north, like
Washington, DC, Philadelphia and

2429
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:20,120
New York City haven't seen snow
on Christmas day since 2009

2430
02:35:21,260 --> 02:35:24,920
the Environmental Protection
Agency studied why, and says in

2431
02:35:24,920 --> 02:35:29,540
almost 80% of locations, they're
getting less snow and more rain.

2432
02:35:29,540 --> 02:35:32,840
But whoops, some might find a
great news either way, the

2433
02:35:32,840 --> 02:35:35,120
National Weather Service office
out of New York, officially

2434
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:36,800
declaring it is a white
Christmas.

2435
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:40,360
First time since 2009

2436
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:45,760
there's a tweet. So they
actually sent people out to

2437
02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:50,140
measure at Central Park this
morning at 7am and for those of

2438
02:35:50,140 --> 02:35:53,140
you not familiar, there is a
technical definition of a white

2439
02:35:53,140 --> 02:35:55,360
Christmas. You've got to have
one inch of snow on the ground.

2440
02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:57,760
And again, this is all for
bookkeeping. It can be relative.

2441
02:35:57,760 --> 02:35:59,920
I mean, if it's me and I look
out the window and I see some

2442
02:35:59,920 --> 02:36:02,160
snowflakes flying around. I'm
calling it a white Christmas,

2443
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:04,860
but this is for the books, first
one that we've had since 2009

2444
02:36:05,400 --> 02:36:08,040
and actually in oh nine, we had
two inches of snow on the

2445
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:08,400
ground.

2446
02:36:10,260 --> 02:36:13,740
So due to climate change, it
snowed, I guess.

2447
02:36:15,060 --> 02:36:18,780
What a crock. It really is.
What? I guess people don't

2448
02:36:18,780 --> 02:36:21,560
believe it anymore. It's just
too bad, but we're spending so

2449
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:22,400
much money on it.

2450
02:36:24,380 --> 02:36:29,060
All right, to get this to wrap
this, show up, John, I see you

2451
02:36:29,060 --> 02:36:29,720
have them, so I

2452
02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:35,120
guess some

2453
02:36:38,300 --> 02:36:41,500
clips. But I mean, I could push
through these around, because I

2454
02:36:41,500 --> 02:36:45,280
have some I have a couple of
news. Well, I wanted to play

2455
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:48,760
that. Yeah, I have two other
ones. I got a couple of tick

2456
02:36:48,760 --> 02:36:53,080
tock clips. I gave you the G
list. Yeah, I know you did, but

2457
02:36:53,080 --> 02:36:55,480
you didn't get cued to do that.
You just did it.

2458
02:36:56,560 --> 02:37:00,160
You didn't press the button. I
know I got this button here, and

2459
02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:05,160
I didn't press I just want to
play the climate mammoth found.

2460
02:37:05,160 --> 02:37:07,560
I think this is interesting,
because you talk about climate

2461
02:37:07,560 --> 02:37:09,660
change. I had a climate clip. I
should have seen it. I should

2462
02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:12,120
have seen it. You're right. The
climate mammoth story, it's

2463
02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:14,820
important. It's big. Everyone's
talking about it. Scientists in

2464
02:37:14,820 --> 02:37:18,900
Siberia have unearthed what they
say may be the best preserved

2465
02:37:18,900 --> 02:37:23,420
body of a wooly mammoth ever
found. The 50,000 year old

2466
02:37:23,420 --> 02:37:27,260
remains of the female baby
mammoth are complete with flesh,

2467
02:37:27,320 --> 02:37:31,580
skin and bones. She's believed
to have been just a year old

2468
02:37:31,580 --> 02:37:35,060
when she died, they found her in
the melting permafrost, which

2469
02:37:35,060 --> 02:37:38,420
has been accelerated by climate
change that's led to more

2470
02:37:38,420 --> 02:37:42,280
prehistoric discoveries in
recent weeks, including the

2471
02:37:42,340 --> 02:37:47,560
35,000 year old mummified body
of a saber tooth kitten, also in

2472
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:51,280
Siberia, it was so well
preserved, a lead researcher

2473
02:37:51,280 --> 02:37:55,360
said its fur was, quote,
surprisingly soft due to climate

2474
02:37:55,360 --> 02:38:00,180
change. Climate change is great.
There shouldn't be petting dead

2475
02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:04,260
animals. You get bird flu that
way. Don't pet the dead animals.

2476
02:38:04,260 --> 02:38:05,820
People stop it.

2477
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:09,600
I thought climate change, that
was a good that's good side of

2478
02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:12,360
climate change. Why they don't
see it as a good positive. And

2479
02:38:12,360 --> 02:38:16,440
it was a kitten. It was a wooly
metal what was it? A Saber Tooth

2480
02:38:16,500 --> 02:38:21,140
kitten. Kitten. Saber Tooth
kitten. That's a new one Saber

2481
02:38:21,140 --> 02:38:23,720
Tooth kitten. And now I have
this one other clip I'd like to

2482
02:38:23,720 --> 02:38:27,560
get out of the way, which is the
Ukraine stolen Russian money.

2483
02:38:27,560 --> 02:38:30,920
Clip, oh boy. Officials in
Ukraine say they've received the

2484
02:38:30,920 --> 02:38:34,220
first billion dollars in
promised loans from the United

2485
02:38:34,220 --> 02:38:38,840
States, backed by proceeds of
frozen Russian assets. Appears.

2486
02:38:38,840 --> 02:38:41,920
Brian Mann reports from Kyiv
that the funding comes as part

2487
02:38:41,920 --> 02:38:46,300
of a $50 billion loan plan
created by g7 leaders last

2488
02:38:46,300 --> 02:38:49,420
summer. Ukraine's Prime
Minister, Danish mahal said on

2489
02:38:49,420 --> 02:38:52,840
social media, the first billion
dollars have arrived. That's out

2490
02:38:52,840 --> 02:38:56,620
of 20 billion in loans expected
from the US, with an additional

2491
02:38:56,680 --> 02:39:00,280
30 billion in support slated to
come from other big industrial

2492
02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:04,140
g7 countries, including Britain
and Canada, we thank our

2493
02:39:04,140 --> 02:39:07,440
American partners and the World
Bank for this important step

2494
02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:10,980
toward justice. Mahal said the
arrangement allows countries to

2495
02:39:10,980 --> 02:39:14,820
support Ukraine's economy and
military with massive loans,

2496
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:18,900
with payback coming from revenue
from Russia's overseas assets

2497
02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:23,360
frozen after the 2022 invasion,
Russian officials have condemned

2498
02:39:23,360 --> 02:39:26,360
the arrangement as fraudulent,
posting on social media that

2499
02:39:26,360 --> 02:39:29,780
loans and other support for
Ukraine will prolong the war.

2500
02:39:30,860 --> 02:39:34,160
So what do they do with this
money? Stealing money? I just

2501
02:39:34,160 --> 02:39:38,120
find it deplorable, yeah, but
they're going to spend it on war

2502
02:39:38,120 --> 02:39:39,080
stuff, on us.

2503
02:39:40,160 --> 02:39:41,740
Well, I don't know, maybe I hope
so.

2504
02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:46,300
All right, so I'm gonna play, I
got three talk clips I can play

2505
02:39:46,300 --> 02:39:50,740
three. Okay, yeah, is that too
many mobile let's see how they

2506
02:39:50,740 --> 02:39:54,880
do. Okay, well, let's start with
the one, the trans girl. I don't

2507
02:39:54,880 --> 02:39:57,580
know if it's a girl or a guy, a
guy being a girl or girl being a

2508
02:39:57,580 --> 02:39:59,440
guy. I guess it's a girl. You.

2509
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,600
That is trans somehow. But
whatever the case, she hates

2510
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:08,820
now, hates her dad because he
voted for Project 2025 which I

2511
02:40:08,820 --> 02:40:11,280
didn't know is on the ballot.
You know, I had voted in this

2512
02:40:11,280 --> 02:40:14,760
last election. I looked and I
didn't see a vote there for

2513
02:40:14,760 --> 02:40:19,020
Project 2025 but I guess maybe
in some areas there was. Let's

2514
02:40:19,020 --> 02:40:23,600
see what she has to say. Um, I
took yesterday to be angry and

2515
02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:26,120
miserable, and I also took
yesterday to make the decision

2516
02:40:26,120 --> 02:40:29,840
to block my father, who will
still end up seeing this. So,

2517
02:40:29,840 --> 02:40:34,340
hi, Dad. And yes, I did block
him because of who he voted for,

2518
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:37,280
because he knows that I am
trans, and he knows that I have

2519
02:40:37,280 --> 02:40:41,020
had two abortions, and he still
voted for Project 2025 Which to

2520
02:40:41,020 --> 02:40:45,580
me, is reprehensible. I have my
husband who loves and supports

2521
02:40:45,580 --> 02:40:47,860
me to the ends of the earth. I
have my friends who love and

2522
02:40:47,860 --> 02:40:50,920
support me to the ends of the
earth, and I have other family

2523
02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:54,580
members who love and support me
to the ends of the earth, and I

2524
02:40:54,640 --> 02:40:58,300
genuinely do not need anyone
else. I realize this is

2525
02:40:58,300 --> 02:41:02,460
something not everyone is able
to do safely, and I'm very

2526
02:41:02,460 --> 02:41:06,540
grateful for my ability to do
that safely. I cut my mother off

2527
02:41:06,540 --> 02:41:11,820
until the day she died, and I
can and will do that again.

2528
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:18,420
I find it also that terrible. I
find it very sad

2529
02:41:19,620 --> 02:41:22,940
that she's a sad these people
are all sad. Yeah, there's

2530
02:41:22,940 --> 02:41:26,420
another good example. This is
the Christmas candy lady.

2531
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:32,420
Christmas candy lady, okay, I
just walked some Christmas candy

2532
02:41:33,500 --> 02:41:36,020
that my neighbors make every
year and leave on people

2533
02:41:36,080 --> 02:41:39,140
people's porches. I just walked
it back over to their house and

2534
02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:42,820
stuck it on their porch and
walked away. That's unlike me,

2535
02:41:43,360 --> 02:41:43,960
but

2536
02:41:45,340 --> 02:41:49,300
they've had their giant Trump
take America back again flag up

2537
02:41:49,300 --> 02:41:50,080
for months.

2538
02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:53,320
They know my daughter's
transgender. I've tried talking

2539
02:41:53,320 --> 02:41:57,400
to them about it, kindly and
gently, asking them not to do

2540
02:41:57,400 --> 02:42:01,560
something that would basically
destroy my child, and they

2541
02:42:01,560 --> 02:42:04,920
didn't care. So at this moment
in time, I feel that it would be

2542
02:42:04,920 --> 02:42:09,180
really hypocritical of me to
accept a gift from them. I don't

2543
02:42:09,180 --> 02:42:14,640
care that it's Christmas, okay.
Me Christmas every day. Give my

2544
02:42:14,640 --> 02:42:18,600
daughter the gift of safety, a
bathroom she can use in her name

2545
02:42:19,680 --> 02:42:22,580
and her gender. How about that?
Give her that,

2546
02:42:23,660 --> 02:42:26,060
and then you can do all the
candy you want, until then you

2547
02:42:26,060 --> 02:42:29,660
can take your candy back again.
You know, the common theme here

2548
02:42:29,660 --> 02:42:32,960
is narcissism. This is the
common theme. These these people

2549
02:42:32,960 --> 02:42:35,660
are narcissists. It's all about
them. It's not about her

2550
02:42:35,660 --> 02:42:40,160
daughter and the other one's not
about her. It's about her. And

2551
02:42:40,520 --> 02:42:43,420
I, should, I should, you know?
So we were at breakfast at the

2552
02:42:43,420 --> 02:42:48,580
hotel in Florence, and, and
we're sitting down and, and

2553
02:42:48,580 --> 02:42:51,700
there's a whole bunch of people
there. It's a busy, you know,

2554
02:42:51,700 --> 02:42:55,480
it's a buffet breakfast. And
right next was this table with

2555
02:42:55,840 --> 02:43:00,780
mom, dad and two kids. And these
kids, they're, you know, they're

2556
02:43:00,780 --> 02:43:04,500
noisy. They're running around.
You know, which would you ever

2557
02:43:04,500 --> 02:43:08,280
let your kid run around in a
restaurant? No, no, of course

2558
02:43:08,280 --> 02:43:12,240
not. You say, shut up. Shut up.
You're bothering people. So the

2559
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:15,540
dad is just looking into space
while Mom is on her phone. The

2560
02:43:15,540 --> 02:43:16,680
whole time

2561
02:43:18,060 --> 02:43:22,400
she's completely oblivious to
the kids, to her husband, and

2562
02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:26,540
then I think the father said,
maybe one thing, hey, is Be

2563
02:43:26,540 --> 02:43:30,200
quiet. And then it switched and
then she was off looking into

2564
02:43:30,200 --> 02:43:31,760
space, and he was on his phone.

2565
02:43:33,320 --> 02:43:38,060
I mean, it's there's something
inherently narcissistic about a

2566
02:43:38,060 --> 02:43:41,920
generation that's grown up with
phones. And by the way, why are

2567
02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:43,420
you putting this on tick? Tock,

2568
02:43:44,800 --> 02:43:49,900
you know, the big question,
yeah, I think you, you that's a

2569
02:43:49,900 --> 02:43:53,140
very interesting observation,
is, I've always felt the same

2570
02:43:53,140 --> 02:43:59,080
way. Why are you narcissism,
defining narcissism, why are you

2571
02:43:59,080 --> 02:44:03,660
putting this on tick? Tock. Why?
Exactly, what do you? What does

2572
02:44:03,660 --> 02:44:07,500
it accomplish? Well, here, well,
it's narcissism, and people pay

2573
02:44:07,500 --> 02:44:09,960
attention to you and post
comments like, oh, girl,

2574
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:15,360
big thing. And Tina was showing
this to me, the big thing this

2575
02:44:15,480 --> 02:44:19,860
holiday season, the Christmas
cheer, is a post that goes like

2576
02:44:19,860 --> 02:44:23,480
this. This is a really difficult
post. This is really difficult

2577
02:44:23,480 --> 02:44:26,660
for me to tell you. And then
it's, you know about, you know,

2578
02:44:26,660 --> 02:44:30,920
my mom died, my dog died, my
sister died, you know, I lost my

2579
02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:35,300
job. It's like, why are you
doing this? And I can only

2580
02:44:35,300 --> 02:44:39,620
conclude the same thing, it's
narcissism, and they thrive on

2581
02:44:39,620 --> 02:44:42,880
getting the you know, you're a
victim. And by the way, it's

2582
02:44:42,880 --> 02:44:46,780
mainly white women who have
these horrible stories, and it

2583
02:44:46,780 --> 02:44:50,620
always this is really difficult,
and they're crying, but I think

2584
02:44:50,620 --> 02:44:54,280
that just they they don't have
any victim cards, so they need

2585
02:44:54,280 --> 02:44:56,860
to be a victim by something
horrible. And you know what

2586
02:44:56,860 --> 02:44:59,440
horrible things happened in your
life? It happens you.

2587
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,900
But they need to put it on tick
tock, or on reels or x these

2588
02:45:03,900 --> 02:45:08,580
days, everything has the same
video scrolling behavior, and it

2589
02:45:08,580 --> 02:45:13,140
has something to do with very,
very deep narcissistic behavior.

2590
02:45:13,140 --> 02:45:13,200
I

2591
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:19,500
think you can blame the phones.
Since you mentioned women, I do

2592
02:45:19,500 --> 02:45:24,320
have the same thing only as a
guy, uh huh. And of course, you

2593
02:45:24,320 --> 02:45:27,800
can visualize what this guy
looks like. Do I need to

2594
02:45:27,800 --> 02:45:30,920
visualize him? Does there's
always this kind of piggy like

2595
02:45:30,920 --> 02:45:35,000
face and all these people, the
women and the men, but this guy,

2596
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:40,840
this is the dude who's done
crying. Oh gosh, okay, dude, I'm

2597
02:45:40,840 --> 02:45:44,620
done crying. My sadness is over.
My anger has set in.

2598
02:45:46,180 --> 02:45:51,040
I am a very petty person, and I
am very proud of that little bit

2599
02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:55,240
about myself, actually. And so I
say this in the most

2600
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:59,260
disrespectful way possible. I
don't care if you are my family,

2601
02:45:59,620 --> 02:46:02,400
I don't care if you're my
friend. I don't care if we've

2602
02:46:02,400 --> 02:46:07,320
been friends our entire lives,
you can literally go fuck

2603
02:46:07,320 --> 02:46:12,540
yourself if you voted for Donald
Trump, if you are so sad about

2604
02:46:12,540 --> 02:46:16,020
your groceries being expensive,
get a better fucking paying job.

2605
02:46:16,740 --> 02:46:21,260
Do better in life, get a fucking
education. Do something because

2606
02:46:21,260 --> 02:46:25,820
you're fucking stupid, and I
hope you go jump off of a

2607
02:46:25,820 --> 02:46:29,300
fucking bridge. Okay, we need
warnings for these clips because

2608
02:46:29,300 --> 02:46:34,100
kids listen to show with their
parents, and it's all, I don't

2609
02:46:34,100 --> 02:46:39,800
care. I yeah, you're, you know,
nailed it with the NAR. It's all

2610
02:46:39,800 --> 02:46:44,380
narcissistic, yes, and it's
pathetic. All right, let's play

2611
02:46:44,380 --> 02:46:46,780
the logged in girl. Because I
saw this one, I thought this was

2612
02:46:46,780 --> 02:46:50,560
pretty okay now that now, now we
switch gears. I liked her. I

2613
02:46:50,560 --> 02:46:53,680
like so there. That's funny. You
saw it, yeah. So we switched

2614
02:46:53,680 --> 02:46:57,760
gears here. Instead of bitching
and moaning about Trump Yes, or

2615
02:46:57,940 --> 02:47:01,140
or having to disown your parents
because the way they voted,

2616
02:47:01,140 --> 02:47:03,780
because you, you know you, they
have to vote the way you want.

2617
02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:07,740
This is a form of this is the
same. This is also, I think,

2618
02:47:07,740 --> 02:47:11,700
narcissistic, but it's but the
target is different. And it's

2619
02:47:11,700 --> 02:47:16,920
actually quite funny. I am so
tired of logging into things.

2620
02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:17,580
I'm

2621
02:47:18,600 --> 02:47:22,820
tired of it. I can't believe I'm
gonna have to log into things

2622
02:47:22,820 --> 02:47:28,640
for the rest of my life. Just
let me see my things. My things

2623
02:47:28,640 --> 02:47:33,260
are right there. Just be logged
in. Could we just be logged in

2624
02:47:33,500 --> 02:47:38,240
for once? And don't, don't get
me started on the Keep me logged

2625
02:47:38,240 --> 02:47:42,640
in check box. Okay, this is the
closed elevator doors button all

2626
02:47:42,640 --> 02:47:46,720
over again. I know bullshit when
I smell it. If I ever see the

2627
02:47:46,720 --> 02:47:49,420
person that programmed that
little Jack box, it is

2628
02:47:49,420 --> 02:47:56,320
absolutely on site. I just want
to be logged and all you cyber

2629
02:47:56,320 --> 02:48:00,840
security people that told them,
that told the websites that we

2630
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:04,380
need to be changing our
passwords every five minutes.

2631
02:48:04,500 --> 02:48:08,880
You're next. I don't care if
that makes me safer, I will go

2632
02:48:08,880 --> 02:48:13,320
ahead hack my shit. You're gonna
hate what you find. Okay, I just

2633
02:48:13,320 --> 02:48:17,400
would rather be logged in, and
if one of you smart ass little

2634
02:48:17,400 --> 02:48:20,720
punks comes into my comments and
tells V I should be using a

2635
02:48:20,720 --> 02:48:24,680
password manager that, oh, the
keychain will fix all of this.

2636
02:48:24,860 --> 02:48:29,900
Okay, I wish Bucha this can't be
the future. Oh,

2637
02:48:32,720 --> 02:48:34,220
I liked her. I liked her.

2638
02:48:35,720 --> 02:48:38,660
Yes, that was pretty good. Okay,
we finished with that. The keep

2639
02:48:38,660 --> 02:48:43,000
me logged in box is kind of a
hoax after grade. That thing

2640
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:44,380
rarely works for me either.

2641
02:48:45,460 --> 02:48:50,020
It works once in a while. Yeah,
people don't. It's the closed

2642
02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:53,440
elevator door button, which is
usually not hooked to anything

2643
02:48:53,680 --> 02:48:57,340
exactly I'm gonna show my school
by donating to no agenda.

2644
02:48:57,520 --> 02:49:00,420
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be

2645
02:49:00,480 --> 02:49:00,660
fun.

2646
02:49:07,680 --> 02:49:11,280
We do have some meetup reports
coming and a rundown of the

2647
02:49:11,280 --> 02:49:13,800
meetups that are on the way. And
of course, everyone wants to

2648
02:49:13,800 --> 02:49:16,200
stick around for John's famous
Tip of the Day. But first we're

2649
02:49:16,200 --> 02:49:18,600
going to thank every single
producer who supported us

2650
02:49:18,600 --> 02:49:22,280
financially in our value for
value model, $50 and above.

2651
02:49:23,060 --> 02:49:29,240
Sorry, your excuse, but I did.
By the way, you were you snapped

2652
02:49:29,240 --> 02:49:35,960
close the spreadsheet. I know I
had clicked. I closed the by the

2653
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:39,920
way, it shows how fast we get
back online. I had clicked the

2654
02:49:39,920 --> 02:49:45,040
instead of shrinking the window,
you click the disconnect button.

2655
02:49:45,220 --> 02:49:47,500
I disconnected. I didn't even
see it.

2656
02:49:48,520 --> 02:49:52,360
Wow, clean feed. Man, those guys
are good again. It's beautiful.

2657
02:49:52,540 --> 02:49:55,420
Well, we do have a few people to
thank, starting with Brian shop

2658
02:49:55,420 --> 02:49:59,920
in Haysville, Kansas, 123451, of
our best numbers, yes, uh.

2659
02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:02,100
Uh, John acrylic,

2660
02:50:03,960 --> 02:50:10,560
uh, acrylic crelic project, I'll
say Crowl dick. Crowl dick. He's

2661
02:50:10,560 --> 02:50:12,960
in North port, New York, and he
gave $102

2662
02:50:14,520 --> 02:50:19,380
switcheroo donation. He gave
twice, and one switcheroo is for

2663
02:50:19,380 --> 02:50:22,880
Anthony krajik, and the other
ones for Peter. Well, that's

2664
02:50:22,880 --> 02:50:26,600
nice. Yeah, that was very nice.
That's cool. That's cool. Bro.

2665
02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:31,040
Name Patricia Worthington. She's
in Miami, Florida. She's an old

2666
02:50:31,040 --> 02:50:34,520
friend. 100 bucks. Merry
Christmas, she says. Jason

2667
02:50:34,580 --> 02:50:39,080
marurer in Vancouver,
Washington, $100 smartest place

2668
02:50:39,080 --> 02:50:43,060
in the world to live. I Kevin MC
you don't have to pay state

2669
02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:45,460
income tax. You know, to pay
sales tax by driving across the

2670
02:50:45,460 --> 02:50:48,580
bridge to Portland. Nice. Kevin
McLaughlin in Concord, North

2671
02:50:48,580 --> 02:50:49,660
Carolina. There he is,

2672
02:50:50,740 --> 02:50:54,760
808 boobs. He's the Archduke of
lunar lover of America and

2673
02:50:54,760 --> 02:50:58,120
boobs. Eric Mackey in
Blairsville, Georgia, 808

2674
02:50:59,200 --> 02:51:02,760
or twos ferry Valparaiso,
Indiana, 8006.

2675
02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:10,440
You know what that means, Merry
Christmas or something.

2676
02:51:11,700 --> 02:51:16,020
Uh. Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale,
Arizona, 7575 Dame Rita in

2677
02:51:16,020 --> 02:51:17,280
Sparks, Nevada, 6733

2678
02:51:19,920 --> 02:51:25,400
uh. Matthew elwart in or
Weatherford, Texas, 6006 6733

2679
02:51:26,300 --> 02:51:29,240
jiggly balls, if I if I'm not
correct, if I'm not mistaken,

2680
02:51:29,240 --> 02:51:32,240
yeah, something like that, yeah,
yeah. It was never lost. No.

2681
02:51:32,360 --> 02:51:35,780
Never caught on, never caught
on. I wonder why certain things

2682
02:51:35,780 --> 02:51:39,860
don't catch on. 606 kind of
catches on us. Small boobs.

2683
02:51:40,280 --> 02:51:46,360
Zachary Maywood in Los Angeles,
California, 5555 Cameron Ling in

2684
02:51:46,360 --> 02:51:48,580
North Branch, Minnesota, 5510

2685
02:51:50,200 --> 02:51:57,280
uh. Susan sarin in nunnum,
nunnum, Netherlands. Nun him.

2686
02:51:57,280 --> 02:52:01,980
New Name, noon him. There you
go. Noon him $55 and

2687
02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:05,760
by the way, everyone's wishing
us a Merry Christmas and a Happy

2688
02:52:05,760 --> 02:52:08,760
New Year. So she and we love it.
Or he? Robert,

2689
02:52:10,500 --> 02:52:13,140
sir lineman in Anna, Illinois,
5333

2690
02:52:16,080 --> 02:52:20,100
it's also the net. Sir lineman
of the net. Raleigh Hawk, yes.

2691
02:52:20,400 --> 02:52:25,220
Samantha, lumen do in
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 5272

2692
02:52:27,440 --> 02:52:31,280
and everyone's wishing us a
merry Christmas. Uh, Steve Myers

2693
02:52:31,280 --> 02:52:33,020
in Williamstown, New Jersey,
5272

2694
02:52:34,400 --> 02:52:37,580
Alexa Delgado in Aptos,
California. That's a $50

2695
02:52:37,880 --> 02:52:40,840
donation. And the following are
all $50 donations, name and

2696
02:52:40,840 --> 02:52:47,560
location next to Steven Jeanson
in Lake Oswego, Oregon.

2697
02:52:51,280 --> 02:52:55,900
Jeffrey phrase in Moraga, oh
Moraga should come to the

2698
02:52:55,900 --> 02:53:00,480
meetups in Albany. Moraga,
California. Melissa Alvarez in

2699
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:06,660
Ponte Verda Beach, Florida.
Brett Denton in Boise. Samuel

2700
02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:13,080
Canaday in North Riverside,
Illinois. Amy galinas In bury in

2701
02:53:13,080 --> 02:53:14,520
Washington, right by the
airport.

2702
02:53:15,540 --> 02:53:23,300
George W in La burnia, Texas.
Brian emman Heiser in Lancaster,

2703
02:53:23,360 --> 02:53:27,320
California. Keith Hubbard in
Plymouth, Minnesota,

2704
02:53:29,180 --> 02:53:35,120
were worn out night. In
Calexico, California, worn out

2705
02:53:35,120 --> 02:53:40,040
night. He's on San Felipe San
Philip Central, never mind.

2706
02:53:40,100 --> 02:53:43,060
Leanne Shipley in Covington,
Washington, and last on the

2707
02:53:43,060 --> 02:53:47,740
list, good old sir Greg in
Newport, North Carolina. That's

2708
02:53:47,740 --> 02:53:48,040
our

2709
02:53:49,060 --> 02:53:52,780
producers, well wishers and
people that help keep show the

2710
02:53:52,780 --> 02:53:55,660
show going, and especially show
1724,

2711
02:53:57,160 --> 02:54:00,420
thank you all very much. You are
the reason, along with your

2712
02:54:00,420 --> 02:54:04,140
compatriots under $50 who we've
not mentioned for reasons of

2713
02:54:04,140 --> 02:54:06,960
anonymity, you are the reason
that we are doing the show, a

2714
02:54:06,960 --> 02:54:10,680
brand new show, live show for
you on the 26th boxing day,

2715
02:54:10,800 --> 02:54:14,040
second day of Christmas, as they
call it in Europe, and right

2716
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:16,800
after Christmas, for you
Americans, we're happy to do it.

2717
02:54:17,040 --> 02:54:19,800
And you are not listeners,
you're not fans, you're not

2718
02:54:19,920 --> 02:54:23,720
audience members. You are
producers of the best podcast in

2719
02:54:23,720 --> 02:54:27,200
the universe. Many people like
to produce with money, which is

2720
02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:29,840
what producers do. Others like
to give us time and talent,

2721
02:54:30,260 --> 02:54:33,200
sending us all kinds of things
and doing things that are

2722
02:54:33,200 --> 02:54:36,320
helpful to the show, that save
us money. It's very much

2723
02:54:36,320 --> 02:54:39,500
appreciated. And of course, if
you want to, and even if you

2724
02:54:39,560 --> 02:54:44,140
sent in a nice donation above
50, please consider setting up a

2725
02:54:44,140 --> 02:54:47,680
sustaining donation. They really
do help. You can do any amount,

2726
02:54:47,740 --> 02:54:50,680
any frequency of recurrence. Go
to no agenda donations.com.

2727
02:54:51,040 --> 02:54:53,680
Thanks again to our executive
and Associate Executive

2728
02:54:53,680 --> 02:54:57,700
producers who supported us with
big money today at no agenda

2729
02:54:57,700 --> 02:54:59,920
donations.com. Once again, no
agenda donation.

2730
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:00,960
Sheets.com say it

2731
02:55:03,480 --> 02:55:05,040
three times that you'll always
remember.

2732
02:55:07,260 --> 02:55:11,220
We congratulate Dylan Lang, who
turned 33 on the 20th and Sir

2733
02:55:11,220 --> 02:55:14,760
Yogi wants to wish his team
Janice a very happy birthday.

2734
02:55:14,760 --> 02:55:18,660
She turned 66 today, and we say
happy birthday to both of you

2735
02:55:18,660 --> 02:55:20,960
from the best podcast in the
universe,

2736
02:55:23,180 --> 02:55:27,080
no title changes, no nights, no
dames. We just go straight into

2737
02:55:27,080 --> 02:55:28,520
the meetups. And as

2738
02:55:35,780 --> 02:55:38,540
we wind up the year, the no
agenda meet ups are still going

2739
02:55:38,540 --> 02:55:42,520
strong, people hanging out
together, human to human, Mano,

2740
02:55:42,520 --> 02:55:46,120
a mano, woman, oh, a mono it's
what you need. Your connection.

2741
02:55:46,120 --> 02:55:48,400
It always gives you protection.
These people you meet at the

2742
02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:50,740
meetups will be your first
responders in any type of

2743
02:55:50,740 --> 02:55:54,880
emergency, like the grid going
down. And here is a report from

2744
02:55:54,880 --> 02:55:59,320
the ITM brunch. Hi. This is Alex
happy in Virginia. We're in

2745
02:55:59,320 --> 02:56:02,820
Hopewell. Trains, good, planes,
bad. Hi. This is Rosalynn from

2746
02:56:02,820 --> 02:56:07,140
King George. Shout out to blonde
squad, plus Trisha. And let's

2747
02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:13,020
see what 2025 has in store for
us. Hey guys, chicken, Merry

2748
02:56:13,020 --> 02:56:16,080
Christmas and Happy New Year to
all. Hey, Jeff from Springfield,

2749
02:56:16,320 --> 02:56:20,360
happy Merry Christmas. John and
Adam in the morning and boys,

2750
02:56:20,360 --> 02:56:25,400
thank you for your courage. Go
to Morgan Froy vinackton Ed from

2751
02:56:25,400 --> 02:56:29,840
Stanley, Virginia. ITM Marshall
from logos Hill, Virginia.

2752
02:56:29,900 --> 02:56:33,140
Christopher and King George
happy to be at our first meetup

2753
02:56:33,140 --> 02:56:36,380
in eight months. Hey. This is
Sir William of West.

2754
02:56:36,380 --> 02:56:41,680
Pennsyltucky from Alexandria.
Trains, good, drones, bad this

2755
02:56:41,680 --> 02:56:45,340
Tom Stark weather. I have not
been at a meet up in more than

2756
02:56:45,340 --> 02:56:48,280
six months, and this recharged
me.

2757
02:56:50,560 --> 02:56:53,740
Yes, you get recharged from the
meetup. You get recharged by

2758
02:56:53,740 --> 02:56:57,040
hanging out with human beings,
put down the phone, lift your

2759
02:56:57,040 --> 02:57:01,680
head, go to a meetup, as they
did in Los Banos, California,

2760
02:57:01,860 --> 02:57:05,940
for the resist, we much meetup.
This is Commodore sir Robertson

2761
02:57:05,940 --> 02:57:10,260
of two sticks at the resist. We
much meet up at me and EDS in

2762
02:57:10,260 --> 02:57:15,000
Los Banos, sir Montague here,
having a great time with great

2763
02:57:15,000 --> 02:57:18,240
people and great pizza. All
right. This dude named Ben,

2764
02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:22,640
named Ben Duke of San Francisco,
getting ready for the eventual

2765
02:57:22,640 --> 02:57:27,020
disclosure or Project BLUE bank.
This is Sir recalcitrant, crazy

2766
02:57:27,020 --> 02:57:30,260
Steve the second, and I just
want to wish my wife Rose a

2767
02:57:30,260 --> 02:57:35,120
happy 17th anniversary as of
yesterday. Yes, Adam and John,

2768
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:38,660
we got together the same year.
You two dudes created the best

2769
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:42,760
podcast in the universe, and we
never had a fight.

2770
02:57:43,900 --> 02:57:47,500
Actually, we have and I always
want

2771
02:57:48,520 --> 02:57:50,740
Merry Christmas in the morning.

2772
02:57:53,560 --> 02:57:57,640
Very nice to hear lovely that
meet up started this morning in

2773
02:57:57,640 --> 02:58:00,480
Dallas. Fort Worth the mid
cities meet up at 1130 as the

2774
02:58:00,480 --> 02:58:04,140
Bourbon Street Bar and Grill. So
I hope to get a meet up report

2775
02:58:04,140 --> 02:58:09,720
from them for Sunday, the Fort
Wayne. See, this is for, I'm

2776
02:58:09,720 --> 02:58:12,600
sorry, my mistake, there's
nothing, nothing today. That's

2777
02:58:12,600 --> 02:58:16,200
for Saturday. There you go. So
that will be taking place 1130

2778
02:58:16,500 --> 02:58:19,920
and that's in Bedford, Texas,
the Fort Wayne club, 33 year

2779
02:58:19,920 --> 02:58:24,620
end. Man and cheese meetup, man
and cheese meetup, 333 at Casa

2780
02:58:24,620 --> 02:58:27,380
grill and bar in Fort Wayne,
Indiana. That should be a good

2781
02:58:27,380 --> 02:58:31,040
one. And then on Sunday, New
Year's Eve. December 30, well,

2782
02:58:31,040 --> 02:58:34,220
we will be doing a show. Is
Sunday New Year's Eve?

2783
02:58:36,680 --> 02:58:39,980
No, Sunday is not New Year's
Eve. New Year's Eve is New

2784
02:58:39,980 --> 02:58:41,800
Year's is Monday, Monday,

2785
02:58:43,180 --> 02:58:46,780
no. New Year's Eve is Tuesday,
Tuesday. Well, these guys are

2786
02:58:46,780 --> 02:58:50,860
nuts. Oh, I see what they call
into New Year's Eve Eve.

2787
02:58:52,840 --> 02:58:56,680
You're You're confusing the
podcaster, New Year's Eve Eve

2788
02:58:56,680 --> 02:59:00,660
and I like pizza. Steve, that's
the whole meet up. Title, 330 on

2789
02:59:00,660 --> 02:59:04,380
Sunday. Bald man brewing in
Eagan, Minnesota. Oh, that's

2790
02:59:04,380 --> 02:59:08,580
Steve bien and stra he's the
he's our pilot. Go to hang out

2791
02:59:08,580 --> 02:59:12,840
with him. He has lots of cool
stories also coming up in the

2792
02:59:12,840 --> 02:59:15,900
new year, Raleigh, North
Carolina, Colorado Springs. We

2793
02:59:15,900 --> 02:59:20,720
have Ronan Park, California,
Yukon, Oklahoma, Baton Rouge,

2794
02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:23,780
Louisiana, Cincinnati, Ohio,
Eagle, Idaho, Keene, New

2795
02:59:23,780 --> 02:59:28,040
Hampshire, South slogan, British
Columbia, Scandinavia,

2796
02:59:28,040 --> 02:59:31,400
Charlotte, North Carolina. Tri
Cities, Washington, adventura,

2797
02:59:31,400 --> 02:59:34,520
Florida, Rockville, Maryland. I
used to live in rockville or

2798
02:59:34,520 --> 02:59:37,340
near rockville, Albany
California. Hey, John, February

2799
02:59:37,340 --> 02:59:40,720
1, Albany, Albany California.
That's near you. You should go.

2800
02:59:40,720 --> 02:59:45,100
Are you going? Huh? You go? Oh
yeah, I'll be there. Cool. 23rd

2801
02:59:45,460 --> 02:59:47,920
Orlando, Florida. This is
February. Then March st,

2802
02:59:47,920 --> 02:59:51,460
Petersburg, Florida, safe and in
the Netherlands. March 29 may

2803
02:59:51,520 --> 02:59:54,880
18, wow. Go to no agenda
meetups.com and get the full

2804
02:59:54,880 --> 02:59:57,460
list of every single no agenda
meetup that's taking place.

2805
02:59:57,580 --> 02:59:59,920
These are producer organized.
It's like Ted.

2806
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:02,640
Walks only a lot cooler and you
can get drunk. No agenda,

2807
03:00:02,640 --> 03:00:05,640
meetups.com. If you can find one
near you, start one yourself.

2808
03:00:06,060 --> 03:00:10,200
Sometimes you want to go hang
out with all the nights and

2809
03:00:10,200 --> 03:00:11,340
days.

2810
03:00:20,000 --> 03:00:21,740
Feels the same.

2811
03:00:23,660 --> 03:00:24,860
It's like a party. And

2812
03:00:26,420 --> 03:00:29,660
at this moment in the show, we
like to select the ISO that

2813
03:00:29,660 --> 03:00:32,420
we'll be using to close out the
show. Once again, I'm falling

2814
03:00:32,420 --> 03:00:36,320
down on the job, doing very
poorly with my with my ISOs, but

2815
03:00:36,320 --> 03:00:41,020
I do have one, just one from an
earlier clip we played no no and

2816
03:00:41,020 --> 03:00:41,620
double No.

2817
03:00:42,700 --> 03:00:47,020
That's really all I've got.
That's not always pathetic. I

2818
03:00:47,020 --> 03:00:49,360
got better ones. It's pathetic.
Well, I know you got better

2819
03:00:49,360 --> 03:00:53,740
ones. You can. I have one that I
took the original and then I

2820
03:00:53,800 --> 03:00:57,220
edited it so it'd be shorter.
Oh, okay, but I have two

2821
03:00:57,220 --> 03:01:02,940
versions of the same clip. Okay,
all right. And so it's one and

2822
03:01:02,940 --> 03:01:07,080
two. Is this show over one?
Merry Christmas Happy, Hanukkah

2823
03:01:07,260 --> 03:01:11,340
happy, New Years, the show is
over. It's too long. It won't

2824
03:01:11,340 --> 03:01:15,300
fit in this five seconds. It
won't fit in the outro. When I

2825
03:01:15,300 --> 03:01:18,840
have it down as four seconds,
well, let's speed it up. Okay,

2826
03:01:18,840 --> 03:01:21,080
Merry Christmas Happy, Hanukkah
happy, New Years, the show is

2827
03:01:21,080 --> 03:01:21,620
over. Okay,

2828
03:01:22,760 --> 03:01:23,660
it's a contender.

2829
03:01:25,100 --> 03:01:25,760
I'll take it,

2830
03:01:26,840 --> 03:01:30,020
yeah. And what else? Two
seconds, yeah, that'll do.

2831
03:01:30,080 --> 03:01:32,900
That'll do. Okay, let's try
these other two and see if

2832
03:01:32,900 --> 03:01:40,420
they're better. I got done, yep,
okay, we are done. Not bad. And

2833
03:01:40,420 --> 03:01:44,740
then overall, ready? No, it
can't be over already. No, I

2834
03:01:44,740 --> 03:01:46,960
think Merry Christmas. Happy,
Hanukkah happy. New Years, the

2835
03:01:46,960 --> 03:01:50,200
show is over. I think that's the
winner. And now, ladies and

2836
03:01:50,200 --> 03:01:54,280
gentlemen, time for the top of
the show. John's Tip of the Day.

2837
03:02:00,580 --> 03:02:01,740
Sometimes battle. Sometimes

2838
03:02:02,880 --> 03:02:06,480
Adam, which is part of the tip
of the day, seems a new segment

2839
03:02:06,480 --> 03:02:09,840
is the complaining about the
previous tip of the day

2840
03:02:10,620 --> 03:02:16,020
discussion. Oh, who does this?
Who's I do, I guess. But who's

2841
03:02:16,020 --> 03:02:18,900
complaining? Who's complaining?
Who's Oh, well, we have, we have

2842
03:02:18,900 --> 03:02:23,840
Puerto Rican listeners, ah, and
they're complainers, hey, oh

2843
03:02:23,840 --> 03:02:26,060
yeah, yeah, they're complaining
about a lot of stuff the Puerto

2844
03:02:26,060 --> 03:02:28,700
Ricans complained this note is
kind of interesting. This came

2845
03:02:28,700 --> 03:02:34,220
from one of the complainers,
Carlos, and he complains about

2846
03:02:34,220 --> 03:02:39,500
the Carlos the complainer, huh?
Carlos the complainer? Yes. His

2847
03:02:39,500 --> 03:02:42,820
last name starts with c2 so it's
going to be very good. Carlos,

2848
03:02:42,820 --> 03:02:47,500
the complainer, uh, talks about
Adobe. Goy, Goya, Adobe, the

2849
03:02:47,500 --> 03:02:51,400
seasoning is Puerto Rican in
origin. And it should be

2850
03:02:51,400 --> 03:02:54,940
mentioned, it's Puerto Rican and
and he went on and on. He him

2851
03:02:54,940 --> 03:02:58,420
and two other guys have mostly
complained bitterly and but

2852
03:02:59,200 --> 03:03:02,880
Carlos, I think, is the one who
said, Mexican foods no good.

2853
03:03:03,360 --> 03:03:06,240
It's tasteless, and all they do
is put hot sauce on everything

2854
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:09,300
and and of course, then another
guy from Puerto Rico says, Well,

2855
03:03:09,300 --> 03:03:11,700
you know the problem with the
Goya Adobo,

2856
03:03:12,780 --> 03:03:16,200
I said to everybody that just
giving a tip for a spice. I

2857
03:03:16,200 --> 03:03:19,980
don't care the details here, but
Okay, all right. So they go on

2858
03:03:19,980 --> 03:03:23,300
and on about they should be not
crediting Puerto Rico. But in

2859
03:03:23,300 --> 03:03:27,260
this note, he said, I went back
and forth with Carlos more than

2860
03:03:27,260 --> 03:03:28,940
once. And he said

2861
03:03:30,740 --> 03:03:33,440
he talked about the adobo, then
he said on a different issue,

2862
03:03:33,440 --> 03:03:35,900
you can call the company
American. He's talking about the

2863
03:03:35,900 --> 03:03:39,080
company started in Puerto Rico,
or supposedly, or the guy came

2864
03:03:39,080 --> 03:03:42,400
from Puerto Rico. It's a New
York company. I'm part of a

2865
03:03:42,400 --> 03:03:46,120
majority of the people of Puerto
Rico who want to become a state

2866
03:03:46,480 --> 03:03:50,140
of the USA. Yeah, in Puerto
Rico, we are born American

2867
03:03:50,140 --> 03:03:53,380
citizens. We have the same
passport as you do in the

2868
03:03:53,380 --> 03:03:56,620
States, and there is no such
thing as Puerto Rican

2869
03:03:56,620 --> 03:04:00,960
citizenship. That's correct. We
are subjected to the same

2870
03:04:00,960 --> 03:04:05,520
federal laws and have federal
courts here. The main difference

2871
03:04:05,520 --> 03:04:11,040
is that we don't pay federal
taxes. Yes, that's it, which is

2872
03:04:11,040 --> 03:04:14,520
attractive to millionaires of
the states that more that come

2873
03:04:14,520 --> 03:04:17,220
here more to avoid paying
federal income taxes and receive

2874
03:04:17,220 --> 03:04:21,020
excellent benefits of not paying
or just paying a low local

2875
03:04:21,020 --> 03:04:24,260
income tax. Another issue is
that we can't vote in the

2876
03:04:24,260 --> 03:04:27,440
presidential elections, but we
can vote in the primaries of the

2877
03:04:27,440 --> 03:04:32,180
GOP and the DMC. Yes. Our DNC,
we don't vote in the election of

2878
03:04:32,180 --> 03:04:35,540
the Commander in Chief, but we
serve in the armed forces. Yes.

2879
03:04:35,600 --> 03:04:40,040
So the thing is, now see, so if
you want to become a state, but

2880
03:04:40,040 --> 03:04:43,000
you don't have to right now. You
don't pay federal income tax.

2881
03:04:43,180 --> 03:04:47,320
What are you complaining about?
Shut up already so you could

2882
03:04:47,320 --> 03:04:51,040
vote for the president. That's a
swap I'd make. You got a good

2883
03:04:51,040 --> 03:04:52,720
deal, as far as I'm concerned.

2884
03:04:54,400 --> 03:04:57,340
So I now the end appeal, of
course, doesn't start new

2885
03:04:57,340 --> 03:04:59,920
thread, yes, but Carlos is of
the group.

2886
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:04,500
Wants to become a state. And I
think, Well, I think you said, I

2887
03:05:04,500 --> 03:05:07,560
admire our Puerto Rican
listeners. I guess there's quite

2888
03:05:07,560 --> 03:05:09,960
a few of them, yeah, because if
three of them wrote in, that

2889
03:05:09,960 --> 03:05:14,100
means there's at least 300 that
probably Yeah, agree, and we'll

2890
03:05:14,100 --> 03:05:16,920
let you in if you pay taxes and
back taxes.

2891
03:05:20,880 --> 03:05:23,360
I think it got a good deal
going. But I know a lot of

2892
03:05:23,360 --> 03:05:27,020
people who went to Puerto Rico
during COVID, and they stayed,

2893
03:05:27,380 --> 03:05:31,580
they never came back. They loved
it. Yes, it's supposed to be

2894
03:05:31,580 --> 03:05:36,680
gorgeous. A lot of trash. I
hear, yeah, garbage. They can't

2895
03:05:36,680 --> 03:05:39,560
seem to figure out what to do
with it. They don't have a

2896
03:05:39,560 --> 03:05:43,420
federal garbage pickup. Anyway,
we love you guys. We love you

2897
03:05:43,420 --> 03:05:48,340
guys. So this week's tip is from
nail tech. It's the nail

2898
03:05:48,340 --> 03:05:53,740
bandage, instant nail bandage.
Whoa, got it? Redundant. Name is

2899
03:05:53,740 --> 03:05:58,000
it? If get it, Amazon is six
bucks and 30 cents, which is

2900
03:05:58,000 --> 03:06:03,060
screwball price, but so you
crack a nail. Now, Mimi has her

2901
03:06:03,060 --> 03:06:06,240
own way of doing this, but I
these things work great. You're

2902
03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:09,960
cracking nail, which I did
because I opening a can of the

2903
03:06:10,200 --> 03:06:12,240
liquid death, I might add,

2904
03:06:13,380 --> 03:06:19,440
I cracked the nail and the on
the can, and so I it wishes a

2905
03:06:19,440 --> 03:06:22,580
pain in the ass, because you got
the catches on everything. You

2906
03:06:22,580 --> 03:06:25,940
know what I'm talking about. And
so you put these little, it's a

2907
03:06:25,940 --> 03:06:29,000
little piece of plastics very
they're hard to get off their

2908
03:06:29,060 --> 03:06:32,720
packaging, and some screwy
product, but you get this little

2909
03:06:32,720 --> 03:06:35,780
piece of plastic and put it over
the nail, and it can't see it.

2910
03:06:35,900 --> 03:06:40,040
It's completely invisible, but
it covers up the it seals the

2911
03:06:40,040 --> 03:06:45,940
little the crack of the nail.
And I recommend this highly.

2912
03:06:45,940 --> 03:06:50,560
Now, Mimi has a she told me this
is crap. And what she likes to

2913
03:06:50,560 --> 03:06:55,900
do is, you got a crack nail, you
put super glue, yes, super glue

2914
03:06:55,900 --> 03:06:59,380
on the gun the nail, and then
you coat it with clear nail

2915
03:06:59,380 --> 03:07:02,940
polish. And if it's a real bad
crack, you can put a very thin

2916
03:07:03,300 --> 03:07:06,600
piece of fiberglass over your
nails and do the same thing,

2917
03:07:06,600 --> 03:07:09,960
glue it on. And I'm thinking, I
don't think so. These little

2918
03:07:09,960 --> 03:07:12,780
patches are great. They work
fine. So that's my tip once

2919
03:07:12,780 --> 03:07:15,180
again. What are they called?
What is this called? This nail

2920
03:07:15,180 --> 03:07:19,980
bandage? It's available on
Amazon by nail tech Tek. I have

2921
03:07:19,980 --> 03:07:22,100
a tip of the day request

2922
03:07:23,420 --> 03:07:26,360
I had for the longest time, and
I think I bought it on an

2923
03:07:26,360 --> 03:07:32,420
airplane, and I can't find it
anymore. I had a scale that you

2924
03:07:32,420 --> 03:07:34,460
use to weigh your baggage.

2925
03:07:35,720 --> 03:07:39,380
So you put, you hold it in your
hand, and that has the little,

2926
03:07:39,440 --> 03:07:42,400
the little digital readout, and
then you clip it onto you hook

2927
03:07:42,400 --> 03:07:47,500
it onto your luggage handle, and
it tells you exactly how much

2928
03:07:47,500 --> 03:07:50,560
your luggage weighs, which is
handy, particularly with, you

2929
03:07:50,560 --> 03:07:53,980
know, I don't want to be that
guy who's unpacking his suitcase

2930
03:07:53,980 --> 03:07:57,820
at check in, and I can't, for
the life of me, find them

2931
03:07:57,820 --> 03:08:01,680
anymore. Wow, I'd never heard of
such a thing, but it's a great

2932
03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:04,920
idea for a product and be very
easy to make nowadays with the

2933
03:08:04,920 --> 03:08:09,420
digital Uh, yes, that, that
dude's weighing Yeah, yes, I

2934
03:08:09,420 --> 03:08:11,520
would love Sure. There's
something out there that do the

2935
03:08:11,520 --> 03:08:14,340
trick, and one of our listeners
and producers will give us the

2936
03:08:14,340 --> 03:08:18,000
answer to that. I should mention
one of my experiences in playing

2937
03:08:18,000 --> 03:08:22,280
around in Europe. It went like
this. So I go into the

2938
03:08:23,300 --> 03:08:28,700
your bags are two pounds
overweight, yeah. And I said,

2939
03:08:29,060 --> 03:08:31,760
Oh, what's that going to cost?
Well, you know, they had to

2940
03:08:31,880 --> 03:08:35,600
fish. It's going to cost 2530
bucks. And so hold on a second.

2941
03:08:36,020 --> 03:08:40,900
So I unzipped the bag, I took
the two pound laptop out and

2942
03:08:40,900 --> 03:08:44,740
stuck it under my arm, zipped
the bag back up, put it through

2943
03:08:44,740 --> 03:08:49,420
the scale, and so, okay, you're
good to go. So then I took the

2944
03:08:49,420 --> 03:08:52,360
bag off, put the laptop back in
and checked it

2945
03:08:54,520 --> 03:08:58,540
these days, you can't even pay
extra for overweight it's a

2946
03:08:58,540 --> 03:09:01,620
workman's comp thing. You cannot
do that.

2947
03:09:03,060 --> 03:09:06,180
It's like it's if it's over 50
pounds, you're screwed. You got

2948
03:09:06,180 --> 03:09:09,000
to take it out. And you can't.
They will not check your bag.

2949
03:09:11,820 --> 03:09:15,480
Well, there's always work
around. Don't over pack. There

2950
03:09:15,480 --> 03:09:18,000
you go. There you go. And that's
your tip of the day, everybody.

2951
03:09:18,000 --> 03:09:20,220
Thank you very much for
listening. Tip of the day.net.

2952
03:09:21,780 --> 03:09:30,920
Creative master, and sometimes
Adam, he still hasn't called me.

2953
03:09:30,920 --> 03:09:32,060
I'm a little irked about it.

2954
03:09:33,320 --> 03:09:36,380
I'll tell him to call you. Yeah,
well, he sent me, shoot me an

2955
03:09:36,380 --> 03:09:42,280
email, send me a email, send me
a DM. DM will work slide into my

2956
03:09:42,280 --> 03:09:43,420
DMs burnetti

2957
03:09:45,100 --> 03:09:49,720
And that can or on that Twitter
or on X, X, he's always DMing me

2958
03:09:49,720 --> 03:09:50,380
on x.

2959
03:09:51,400 --> 03:09:54,940
He doesn't, I don't think he
uses X much. I think he goes

2960
03:09:54,940 --> 03:09:56,080
there once a month.

2961
03:09:57,400 --> 03:09:57,880
Well,

2962
03:09:58,900 --> 03:09:59,860
it's been a month.

2963
03:10:00,600 --> 03:10:04,320
We did everything he asked. Hall
is typical Hollywood do this for

2964
03:10:04,320 --> 03:10:07,800
me, typical, typical Hollywood
arrogance. Yeah,

2965
03:10:09,540 --> 03:10:13,140
that concludes our broadcast
day. Sunday, I will be coming to

2966
03:10:13,140 --> 03:10:15,900
you back from the Texas Hill
Country, excited to be back,

2967
03:10:15,900 --> 03:10:19,920
excited to see my dog again, for
sure. End of show. Mix is coming

2968
03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:23,660
up from D's laughs And Joseph
Grillo, who did a great hot

2969
03:10:23,660 --> 03:10:29,240
Luigi mix and up next on no
agenda stream the modern podcast

2970
03:10:29,240 --> 03:10:32,000
apps and trollroom.io even
though they were they were very

2971
03:10:32,000 --> 03:10:36,200
mean to me on Noster, sir
Spencer and dame de lurian With

2972
03:10:36,200 --> 03:10:37,460
bowl after bowl.

2973
03:10:38,960 --> 03:10:44,080
See, I forgive. I can forgive
coming to you from 15 feet below

2974
03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:46,900
sea level here in stipple,
Amsterdam, the Netherlands, in

2975
03:10:46,900 --> 03:10:49,660
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
Curry, and from Northern Silicon

2976
03:10:49,660 --> 03:10:53,500
Valley, where the weather is
mixed, I'm John C Dvorak.

2977
03:10:53,560 --> 03:10:56,620
Remember us at no agenda
donations.com Until the next

2978
03:10:56,620 --> 03:10:59,980
time adios mofo is a hooey,
hooey inside. And I understand

2979
03:10:59,980 --> 03:11:02,820
why you believe crazy things,
and I understand why you think

2980
03:11:02,820 --> 03:11:06,720
crazy things. I'm the same way.
Derek Burch, do you remember if

2981
03:11:06,720 --> 03:11:12,060
he has a moniker and Matty J
D's, what's the next thing

2982
03:11:12,060 --> 03:11:15,480
they're gonna fear monger? Or
not? The virus, climate change,

2983
03:11:15,480 --> 03:11:19,320
a world hunger they pass in now,
billions in every direction, not

2984
03:11:19,320 --> 03:11:23,840
a TV show, but we divided by
intersection. Marvin F in 71

2985
03:11:24,260 --> 03:11:27,800
what's going on? Finishing the
year in 22 where did we go

2986
03:11:27,800 --> 03:11:31,040
wrong? Pay attention to
everything. The truth reveals

2987
03:11:31,040 --> 03:11:35,360
itself. Is what mol fact said, I
say it to myself. Methaman, you

2988
03:11:35,360 --> 03:11:38,480
said, Hey, release your Delf,
it's Christmas time. I'm always

2989
03:11:38,480 --> 03:11:41,440
moving like the elf on the
shelf, but I don't play these

2990
03:11:41,440 --> 03:11:45,040
childish games. Only one I play
is with my nephews. I caught up

2991
03:11:45,040 --> 03:11:48,160
all my childish games. Forgot
about the guitars, like Eddie

2992
03:11:48,160 --> 03:11:52,540
Hazel Funkadelic is funky, not
fresh, like homegrown basil. Two

2993
03:11:52,540 --> 03:11:56,380
other producers, thank you for
the three keys, time, talent and

2994
03:11:56,380 --> 03:12:00,540
treasure. I think we all agree.
John C Dvorak and my man Adam

2995
03:12:00,540 --> 03:12:03,420
Curry hosts the best podcast
going into 2023

2996
03:12:04,560 --> 03:12:08,640
value for value, international
lifestyle, twice a week. Yo. We

2997
03:12:08,640 --> 03:12:12,960
love it all the while you put a
number meaningful to you. Just

2998
03:12:12,960 --> 03:12:15,660
don't Nate, don't be a shape
shifting. You know, who

2999
03:12:16,860 --> 03:12:18,300
shout out, Matty J for the

3000
03:12:19,380 --> 03:12:22,880
instrumental. We going, man up.
I don't know, but it was, I

3001
03:12:22,880 --> 03:12:25,220
mean, it was one of the more
serious way back in the day.

3002
03:12:25,400 --> 03:12:28,100
This one now is probably, he
probably got the same one that I

3003
03:12:28,100 --> 03:12:31,820
got like a month ago, which I'm
not vaccinable. I got the

3004
03:12:31,820 --> 03:12:33,920
Johnson. I got the ghetto
vaccine. And, you know, I got

3005
03:12:33,920 --> 03:12:36,920
the Johnson Johnson right when
it was first available, which

3006
03:12:36,920 --> 03:12:39,800
that that was probably just like
syrup, first Pearl, I know,

3007
03:12:39,800 --> 03:12:40,540
something like that.

3008
03:12:43,780 --> 03:12:44,560
This Ivy League hottie

3009
03:12:47,620 --> 03:12:48,880
named Luigi. It's a Robin

3010
03:12:51,280 --> 03:12:54,580
Hood that we never knew that we
needed. Honestly, it's

3011
03:12:57,580 --> 03:12:59,980
beautiful, and I agree with him.

3012
03:13:01,240 --> 03:13:05,520
The children have a brand new
star. His name is Luigi, the

3013
03:13:05,580 --> 03:13:09,780
cutest little hottie. All the
boys think that he's sweet. He

3014
03:13:09,780 --> 03:13:15,060
shot a CEO right in the back out
on the street and rode a city

3015
03:13:15,060 --> 03:13:17,940
bike into the park. So
naturally, oh, Jing it, I did

3016
03:13:20,760 --> 03:13:21,740
hot. Luigi the killer,

3017
03:13:24,620 --> 03:13:25,940
Italian Christmas killer,

3018
03:13:30,500 --> 03:13:33,020
because this is like regular,
everyday

3019
03:13:38,180 --> 03:13:40,900
person. Our hero, Luigi wore a
mask to hide his killer,

3020
03:13:41,200 --> 03:13:45,880
Hollywood face. He made a big
mistake asking the server for a

3021
03:13:45,880 --> 03:13:50,140
day a camera caught in clear
state, he let his mask come

3022
03:13:50,140 --> 03:13:54,760
down. There was hot Luigi eating
the crispy Mac hash brown

3023
03:13:54,760 --> 03:13:55,180
Italian

3024
03:14:00,160 --> 03:14:02,400
Christmas. Italian Christmas
killer.

3025
03:14:05,400 --> 03:14:09,420
I listened to Luigi as manifesto
this morning three times, and I

3026
03:14:09,420 --> 03:14:15,120
cried, honestly. It's beautiful,
and I agree with him. Whoa, the

3027
03:14:15,600 --> 03:14:20,160
radicals love Luigi. He's really
quite the ham. He gained a

3028
03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:25,100
million followers on x and
Instagram now all the normal

3029
03:14:25,100 --> 03:14:29,180
people hope he gets what he
deserves. Let's hope they grow

3030
03:14:29,180 --> 03:14:32,900
the book at him a lifetime, he
will serve Louisiana killer King

3031
03:14:32,900 --> 03:14:33,380
and edging

3032
03:14:35,120 --> 03:14:37,400
the Italian Christmas killers.

3033
03:14:39,200 --> 03:14:40,040
Initial 827,

3034
03:14:42,500 --> 03:14:46,300
followers. On Instagram grew
exponentially Monday, as we

3035
03:14:46,300 --> 03:14:50,320
watched by three o'clock, more
than 32,000 an hour later,

3036
03:14:50,620 --> 03:14:50,980
53,000

3037
03:14:52,000 --> 03:14:54,700
by five o'clock Monday, more
than 71,000

3038
03:14:55,960 --> 03:14:59,920
Hey, Luigi, where you going with
that gun in your hand? Take.

3039
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,100
The gun leave the
cannolis.org/n.

3040
03:15:13,860 --> 03:15:14,160
A

3041
03:15:15,240 --> 03:15:17,460
Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah,
happy new years, the show is

3042
03:15:17,460 --> 03:15:17,760
over. You.