Oh, there's no corruption in Mexico.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Sunday, February 2nd, 2025.
This is your award-winning Get My Nation
Media Assassination episode 1735.
This is no agenda.
Bracing for drift and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country here in
FEMA Region Number 6.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's an
atmospheric river.
I don't know, I don't see it.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
Is it that time again for the atmospheric
river?
Supposedly, I don't know, maybe it's hitting someplace.
What's it supposed to bring?
What does the atmospheric river bring?
Oh, half a foot!
Half a foot of what?
Of rain?
Half a foot of water.
Of rain, oh.
Half a foot?
Yeah, but this has been going on since
Friday night.
Oh, it's going to be bad.
Real bad.
I have not seen it, I mean it's
been, basically the humidity is 100% so
everything's soaking.
But there's no rain, it's just wet.
Oh, because of the humidity.
Well, I don't know, beyond that, I mean
it's drizzling.
I could say that you could call it
drizzling, like massive drizzling, but it's not.
But it's drizzling, it's ridiculous.
Well, sticking with the climate change for just
a moment, today is the day, February 2nd.
It's a very special day, they've made movies
about it.
Mayor de Blasio killed one of them, but
he's still here.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the annual
prediction from Punxsutawney Phil.
Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye!
This is a great American tradition, by the
way.
Now on this February 2nd, Punxsutawney Phil, the
seer of seers, the prognosticator of all prognosticators,
was awakened from his wintry nap at dawn
on Gobbler's Knob.
Gobbler's Knob?
First a look to the skies, and then,
speaking in Groundhog Day, In the UK, Gobbler's
Knob means something very different.
He's directed the president to the proper scroll,
which reads, What a way to start a
Sunday fun day.
Yeah!
You always said you'd make it here one
day.
To this place, barely big enough to contain
ya.
Get to it!
To this sweet Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania.
We're all here, with the elements combined.
Where mother nature meets father time.
Yeah, let's go.
To hear the truth, are those gray skies?
Only I know you can't trust AI.
It's Groundhog Day, and maybe life is on
a loop.
But I miss my burrow.
I miss my coop.
So I'm headed back down.
There's a shadow up here.
Get ready for six more weeks of winter
this year!
Woo!
Yeah!
So that stupid Groundhog has only been right
39% of the time.
I mean, a flip of the coin is
better.
Yeah, and the logic doesn't make any sense,
if you think about it.
Yeah, if it's sunny is when you think
he'd be, Oh, it's good weather.
Why do we do this?
I used to write about, in fact, I
used to put this in a newsletter, and
I used to, when I was writing for
the Examiner, I was...
Is that the San Francisco Examiner?
Yeah, the one-time San Francisco Examiner.
Became the, merged with the Chronicle eventually.
Yeah.
But I would always put a recipe for
Groundhog stew into the newspaper.
There are recipes.
There's a good book called...
Wait a minute.
Groundhog stew for actual ground-up Groundhog?
I don't remember how the recipe goes.
I don't think you have to grind him
necessarily.
But I will say this.
Like a brisket, put him on the pit
boss.
For people out there looking for something to
read that's entertaining, there's a, I think it
came out of the, one of the colleges
back east, maybe North Carolina, actually.
It's a book called Unmentionable Cuisine.
Oh.
And it was published in the 70s.
And Unmentionable Cuisine has recipes for everything.
Oh, stuff like...
Ants, rats.
Road, what do you call it?
Roadkill.
They have recipes for everything.
And they have the real burgoo recipe, which
is a squirrel stew.
Well, I'm thinking this is something for Gateview
Publishing.
I mean, you read TooManyEggs.com.
Now we're back for the sequel.
Groundhogs, squirrels, ants, you name it.
We just need to come up with a
good name.
Yeah.
People would buy that.
With the plug I just gave that book,
the old book, if they get two sales,
it'll be a miracle.
But it does bring me to what I
was going to think was going to be
the clip of the day.
We're talking about food.
Yeah.
Which is my TikTok clip, Black History.
You're going to start with TikTok right off
the bat?
Black History Girl.
You know that this wasn't common knowledge.
And if you didn't know this, that means
you don't follow me.
But white people have always indulged in cannibalism.
They ate their slaves and they ate black
people that were free after the Emancipation Proclamation,
after lynchings.
If you didn't know this, you don't follow
me.
And if you don't follow me, you should
follow me.
My name's Chemistry.
I teach black history.
And just like everything else on my page,
I'm not just feeding you a bunch of
bullshit.
There are a plethora of books that you
can look into that proves that this is
a fact.
Books like The Delectable Negro, which covers recipes
of how to eat black people.
Another book called Edible People.
The Historical Consumption of Negroes and Foreigners.
And I believe it was like The Cannibalistic
Trade.
And that's just two of many.
But yeah, if you want to know more
about this topic, if you scroll down on
my page, I have a video called White
People Ate Black People.
It's very, very informative.
All right, all right.
I owe him a call anyway.
I got to call Mo about this.
Let me find out.
I got to go straight to the source,
find out if this is true or not.
Somebody, the comments on this particular woman was
pretty interesting, because I guess the first book
she mentions is actually just some sort of
homoerotic tale.
And it has nothing to do with anything.
More like a Jeffrey Dahmer type deal?
Yeah, kind of.
Well, it is, of course, Black History Month.
Yeah, that's why I played that clip.
Yeah, it was good.
It wasn't clip of the day, but it
was good.
I didn't expect to get it.
You can't roll out the clip of the
day right away, although you have done that.
It happens from time to time.
This, of course, is the shortest month of
the calendar year, which Mo always complains about.
Thanks.
He says, thanks, give us the shortest month.
But the timing of everything was really impeccable.
And I am going to give you props.
I think you were spot on.
Well, you already called it right after the
election.
You said the Democrat Party of the United
States are going to die on the hill
of, I'll just collectively say DEI, LGBTQ goes
in there.
Everything is in there.
And I know that you have the clips,
but to lead up to it, and it's
cynical to think this way, but I think
President Trump figured this out.
He honeypotted the Democrat Party by coming out
after the horrific D.C.A. air crash.
Yeah, I think so, too.
And now he may have some, I mean,
there's a lot of information coming out about
the third pilot.
She was a woman.
We presume that means female.
He was like, oh, only 450 hours.
He's like, simmer down, everybody.
If you have 450 consecutive hours, you're going
to be a pretty good pilot.
I thought she had 500.
Well, 500.
There's a saying in aviation, the most dangerous
moment for a pilot is 300 hours, because
then you kind of think you got it
all down and everything.
But if you're doing four, four and 50,
500 consecutive hours of training on type, you're
going to be a good pilot.
I've flown with female military, marine pilots.
You know, there's no reason to think they're
better or worse than any other.
You know, now there's a lot of question.
Why did they withhold her name?
Why did they scrub her social media?
It's fine.
It doesn't really matter.
What matters is that the colloquial left has
taken what Trump said and is just running
with the ball in all kinds of crazy
directions.
And the most insane was Smirkonish on CNN,
who is going to...
Well, here's his claim.
This all coming after the tragic Black Hawk
and American Airlines collision that killed 67 people
near Reagan National Airport on Wednesday night.
A chilling collision above the Potomac, upended after
the consular-in-chief pivoted and began playing
the blame game and speculating while providing no
evidence that diversity and hiring policies of prior
administrations somehow caused this tragedy.
The FAA's website states they include hearing, vision,
missing, extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe
intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualify
for the position of a controller of airplanes.
The FAA website shows that the agency's guidance
on diversity hiring were last updated on March
23rd of 22.
They wanted to make it even more so.
And then I came in, and I assume
maybe this is the reason.
The FAA, which is overseen by Secretary Pete
Buttigieg, a real winner.
Now we'll circle around to the air traffic
controllers later after your clips.
I want to say up front that none
of these, the problem with air traffic controllers,
they can't actually qualify anybody to become an
air traffic controller.
So the issue now, as we know, we
have many air traffic controllers in Gitmo Nation.
They're overworked.
Because of these stupid qualifications, no one is
good enough.
No one gets certified.
No one gets through to become an actual
air traffic controller.
So the danger is not in a DEI
hire controlling traffic in our airspace.
The danger is there's not enough of them
because of the policy.
Staffing is the danger.
Staffing.
Now, so here is Smirkonish's take on why
the president did this.
Despite any evidence supporting his conjecture, the president
doubled down.
And with the support of the vice president,
the secretary of defense, the secretary of transportation,
he produced a shiny object.
DEI, which dominated the Thursday news cycle.
A debate over DEI now filled airspace that
would otherwise have been focused on the confirmation
hearings occurring that day on Capitol Hill featuring
the most controversial remaining nominees of President Trump.
There was Tulsi Gabbard, tapped to be Trump's
director of national intelligence, who refused to say
whether or not she thinks Edward Snowden is
a traitor.
FBI director nominee Kash Patel, who fielded questions
about a retribution and enemies list.
RFK Jr., Trump's nominee to be the next
secretary of health and human services, seemed to
struggle a bit when answering a basic question
about Medicare.
Three nominees who could potentially be in charge
of our security and health, they all took
a back seat to a torrent of unproven
rhetoric and speculation.
That night, President Trump's unfounded speculation about DEI
was welcomed on Fox News.
And no doubt, many Americans working jobs with
limited bandwidth to verify their information, they went
to bed thinking 67 people died because of
a government initiative which they think discriminates against
whites and had caused some unfit minority to
get hired for a job, resulting in negligence
and costing lives.
I'm too cynical to accept coincidence.
I think President Trump wanted to own the
news cycle, like he wants to own every
news cycle.
And this time, he sought the added political
benefit of raising questions over whether a minority
was at fault for the D.C. catastrophe.
So, no, he never said minority, but here's
the crazy thing.
So, smirkonish his complaint.
This is CNN at work.
His complaint is that Trump did this, President
Trump did this, to distract from the nominee
hearings and to just make sure no one
knows what's going on with these crazy people.
And subsequently, he goes on to do one
of his stupid polls about this DEI stuff
instead of talking about the thing he says
we're being distracted from.
It brings me to today's poll question at
smirkonish.com.
Do you believe President Trump's blaming of DEI
for the Washington crash was a deliberate attempt
to shift focus from the congressional confirmation hearings?
Well, what do you think?
What do you think his phony baloney poll
would say?
Well, with the CNN audience, and since we
already know that these polls are phony baloney.
Bogus.
It definitely is, yeah.
Yeah.
It's got to be a big yes.
All right, there's the voting so far at
smirkonish.com.
Wow, round numbers.
70-30 yes.
What are the chances?
Exact round numbers.
Nearly 40,000 have voted agreeing with me
that the whole The whole audience, wow.
What he should have said, this is a
record.
The entire audience voted.
We've never had this happen before.
Agreeing with me that the whole injection into
the conversation of DEI in the aftermath of
that catastrophe was just a shiny object to
take our attention away from the Capitol Hill
hearings.
I'm not often in the majority on my
polls.
I'm not even sure what to say right
now.
Oh, yes.
And then he went on.
That seems unlikely.
He doesn't know what to say.
He went on.
He went on and on and on.
And I want to play one more before
you get to your DNC clips, because that
was just amazing what happened there.
Here's Capehart doing his thing.
Now turning to President Trump's response to this
major tragedy.
Just a day after the aircraft collision, Trump
blamed, without any evidence, his familiar scapegoats, the
previous administrations and DEI.
I put safety first.
Obama, Biden, and the Democrats put policy first.
And they put politics at a level that
nobody's ever seen.
They put a big push to put diversity
into the FAA's program.
They actually came out with a directive to
white.
And we want the people that are competent.
I'm trying to figure out how you can
come to the conclusion right now that diversity
had something to do with this crash.
Because I have common sense, okay?
No, not okay.
Not okay.
And let's fact check President Trump's assertion.
According to the Federal Aviation Administration, there are
rigorous standards for hiring pilots, mechanics, and air
traffic controllers.
And there is no evidence that those standards
were lowered to diversity goals.
So folks, let's call out the President's response
for what it really is, racist.
It's racist now.
Capehart is great.
So they fell for it.
And this, as cynical as it is, I
really believe the President made a very calculated,
smart move.
It is an issue.
It has been an issue.
The workforce is not large enough for the
air traffic controllers.
But he does this on the eve of
this DNC nominating process.
And subsequently, the M5M falls for it.
They just fall for it.
And every single American identifies with an air
disaster.
And they don't care.
I mean, I'm sure if you go out
on the street and talk to Democrats, they'd
be like, would you like a DEI hired
to be running the ATC?
They'll all say no.
They may lie to you in front of
the camera, but you know how everyone feels.
It was a genius move, cynical, but a
genius move.
I like the idea that it's cynical, because
I'm not thinking in those terms with Trump,
but I think I can do that.
I think I can think that he's cynical
and he's, in this case, exploitative.
Yes.
And he doesn't care.
He's not running for re-election, so he
does stuff.
Yeah.
And he's going to do stuff for the
next four years that's going to drive people
nuts.
I have some clips about that, too.
But give me the DNC, because I'm just
so excited.
Before we go too far astray, I don't
want to lose out on the Hegseth issue
about, since you mentioned Black History Month, before
you got into that clip.
Yeah.
And I have to play this.
This is Hegseth.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
You play it, yeah.
Hours before the start of Black History Month,
the Defense Department declared cultural awareness months at
the Pentagon dead.
Dead?
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said celebrations of Black
History Month, Women's History Month, and the like
divide the force and erode camaraderie.
He went on to say service members may
only attend these celebrations in an unofficial capacity.
The guidance is effective immediately.
I like that he calls it camaraderie.
I think it's camaraderie.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Well, they canceled all of it.
That's interesting.
You know, I have pronounced it both ways,
too.
But he canceled all of the and the
like.
No, he just canceled it all.
This guy is a short timer.
I guarantee it.
You think?
I think I'm digging him so far.
I like him, but he's got if he
goes two years, I'll be stunned.
OK.
And that's because it is just that the
pushback will be just outrageous because people it's
just too much.
It's too much for these guys.
So the DNC had their little shindig and
it was played on MSNBC for some.
You know what?
It was their deal.
It was it was their whole.
I mean, it showed the complete collusion between
the two.
Oh, yes.
They had Joy Reid.
Capehart was there.
Your buddy Capehart.
My buddy.
And then the redhead.
Yes.
Psaki.
Everybody was there.
So they had a bunch of people.
David Hogg was there and he ran for.
I'm going to start with the easy ones
and go to the best one at the
end.
So I got one and one, two.
One, two, three, four.
I got a lot of clips, but they're
short.
David Hogg is who ended up getting the
getting the number of votes to get the
vice chair.
Let's remind everybody who David Hogg is.
David Hogg is this character that came out
of the Parkland shooting in Florida.
Yeah.
And he became kind of a quasi celebrity
amongst the Democrats, and he is an anti
-gun guy.
Kid.
He's still, I think, a kid.
He's in his early 20s, I think.
Early 20s.
Yeah, he's in his 20s.
And he is kind of a kind of
a he's not as bad as some of
these guys, but he's one of these kind
of you would call him a kind of
a beta.
You call him a crisis actor, John.
That's a beta male.
He's gotten really good.
He reminds me of Ike on the troll
room is going to have to come up
with this name because I was trying to
think of it the other day.
And normally I can come up with these
names.
The guy used to be a right winger
kind of a kind of a I don't
know if you call him handsome, but he's
a very presentable guy.
Very saw a young guy.
And it was a Christian character who pushed
and pushed and pushed.
He was he had he was he's did
a lot of grassroots stuff, a lot of
the guy with the long hair.
No, he didn't have long hair.
He was well quaffed.
He and he's young looking.
Name was a Christopher.
So I just can't remember his name.
And he got busted for being with a
whore or something.
I don't remember the exact problem.
He ended up with some chick that involves
something or scarf with some money.
There was some scandal and he just disappeared
off the face of the troll room is
suggesting John Stamos.
But I don't think that is correct.
Yeah.
Well, that's the best thing.
I'll come up with this guy.
But this guy reminds me of that kind
of guy because he's he and only because
of the pattern.
He's picked up a professional politician's pattern, this
hog guy.
And here he is.
This is the DNC David Hockley where he's
promoting himself to be the vice chair.
Are you ready to go have to win
back our young people?
I am the only candidate in this race
for any of these positions that is under
30.
We had a 20 point shift to the
right of our young people.
We must show our young people we give
a damn about them, that we support them
and we invest in them.
I have raised over 11 million dollars in
the past year to support the future of
our party because I don't just tweet.
I don't just talk the talk.
I also walk the walk and I knock
the knock indoors across the country.
But I'm counting on you in this moment
right now.
I need your support.
Please vote for me.
Thank you so much.
Nice.
I walk the walk.
I talk the talk.
I knock the knock.
Got an attitude for gratitude.
Connection is protection.
Woo, baby.
He's a DJ.
For gratitude.
He's a DJ.
He should have Darin write some material for
him.
That's right.
Yeah, he needs it desperately.
And he actually got the votes, huh?
He got the votes, yeah.
So he and another guy both got the
votes.
So there's two co-chairs, I guess.
Now I have, here's the typical is what's
going on and you gave me a little
kudos earlier for predicting some of this.
But the hill the Democrats are going to
die on includes what we're going to hear
here.
This is a section where the guy comes
on with the, with some rules.
Yeah, this is the, his name is gender
rules.
His name is, what's his name?
Hold on a second.
I have it here.
He is, I can't remember his name.
Well, that's okay.
It's not important.
He's going on and on about gender rules.
Jamie Harrison.
That's who he is.
Jamie Harrison.
Rules specify that when we have a gender
non-binary candidate or officer, the non-binary
individual is counted as neither male nor female
and the remaining six offices must be gender
balanced.
Okay, I'm following.
With the results of the previous four elections,
our elected officers are currently two male and
two female.
In order to be gender balanced, we must,
we must elect one male, one female, and
one person of any gender.
So again, this is what we have to
do for this vice chair race.
We have to elect one male, one female,
and one person of any gender.
To ensure our process accounts for male, female,
and non-binary candidates, we conferred with our
RBC co-chair, our LGBT caucus co-chair,
and others to ensure that the process is
inclusive and meets the gender balance requirements in
our rules.
To do this, our process will be slightly
different than the one outlined to you earlier
this week.
But I hope you will see that in
practice, it is simple and transparent.
The order of balloting is designed to ensure
equal access to the ballot, regardless of gender
identity.
As we must elect a candidate of any
gender as well as one male and one
female vice chair, we will first ask members
to elect a candidate of any gender on
the first ballot.
Any candidate, male, female, and non-binary, can
be elected on that ballot.
After a candidate is elected on the first
ballot, we'll have one officer of the three,
so we will not, so then we will
know which position is filled of the one
male, one female, and one vice chair of
any gender.
Our second ballot would also be for a
candidate of any gender.
Then our third ballot will be the third
position that is remaining based on the two
results.
Either a male candidate, if a candidate that
is not male has not been elected, or
a female candidate, if a female has not
been elected.
Dude.
And the crazy thing is, they picked two
cracker white guys.
Everyone said cracker white guy.
That's the funny thing.
But did you see some of the candidates
who were up there and saying, vote for
me?
Well, that's where the kicker will come in.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I'll leave it to you.
You don't have to coach me on this.
I got the goods, because one of our
guys, one of our producers sent me the
good rundown.
Was it Madison Cawthorn who you're thinking of,
who wound up in the wheelchair, and then
was at sex parties?
Was that the one you're thinking of?
No, no, no.
This guy was, oh, man.
Milo Yiannopoulos?
No, he's not gay.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
It doesn't matter.
It's a very famous guy, and it's just
a tip on my tongue, and it really
irks me, because everyone, you know, I'm pretty
good at this.
Steve Bannon?
Yeah, that's it.
A good-looking guy with well coiffed Steve
Bannon.
I don't think so.
Guy looks like he's rolled out of bed
100% of the time.
So here's another one.
During this discussion, some, I think it was
a guy, a dude in a dress.
I think it was, it could have been
an ugly woman.
It could have been a, whatever it was,
it was a very irked- looking person.
I don't know the gender of anything else,
but it came up.
This clip is called D&D.
This is easy to find.
Oops, sorry.
And this is her, she, it, they, them
going on and demanding the following.
Okay, the next person is Carol Abney, who
is a Tennessee DNC member.
Go ahead, Carol.
We all know that red states need extra
help, so my question is for all of
you.
For the past 16 years, the transgender community
has only gotten one at-large seat each
time.
Will you pledge to appoint more than one
transgender person to an at-large seat, and
will you commit to making sure those appointments
reflect the gender and ethnic diversity of the
transgender community?
Let's, since Carol wanted to ask this of
everybody, and then I want to give Mr.
Paul an opportunity to give, to be fair
for everyone, to speak more.
Is there, would everybody here commit to that,
or is there anyone who would, raise your
hand if you would commit to what she
just asked.
Okay.
Hey.
All hands went up.
Hey, but wait a minute.
We've got to figure out what NBC is
doing here.
I mean, we know they're being spun off.
We know that there's all kinds of issues.
Are they going to the Democrat party and
saying, just make us our, you know, let's
make it official and just pay us?
What is, I mean, they didn't do this
for free, I presume?
Like, oh, it's great, well, it is great
content for the show.
They're working for us.
But what is that connection?
Why?
Why would they do this?
You know, I was baffled by it myself.
It's a desperate desperation.
I mean, when you say MSDNC, now it's
just a fact.
It's very strange that they went for this.
You know, maybe there's something afoot.
You may have stumbled onto something here.
There may be something afoot where they actually
stay on the air as an independent, you
know, Spinco is the name of the company.
Spinco.
Who do you work for?
Here's my new card, Spinco.
Oh, all right.
The Spinco company may keep them on the
air and cable, because they're already assigned a
certain, you know, if you're a cable provider
in some area, you have signed up for
them.
But how poetic is it that MSNBC is
owned by a company called Spinco, a news
organization?
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
It is.
So it's possible that they would just stay
on the air as a mouthpiece for the
Democrat Party.
Why not?
Well, I mean, there's money there, so they
should do something.
And they're just pathetic, though.
They're for hire.
This was like watching Capehart and Joy Reid
and the Redhead.
Psaki.
Yakking away here.
And Capehart's the absolute worst.
Here's Capehart.
This is the DSA Capehart, because this needs
a setup.
They went through a series of questions where
they asked people various just generalized questions, and
they all raised their hands.
And whatever they asked, everybody raised their hands.
This was like the idiots that ran for
the for the Democrat primaries.
Yeah.
Presidency a couple of years ago when they
said, well, you give free health care to
all the immigrants.
And they looked at each other and they
all raised their hands like idiots.
Exactly.
So they're doing the same thing now.
They're all raising their hands like idiots.
And I thought that this particular question was
like, and because what's interesting about this one
is at the very end, they all raise
their hands and the audience all raised their
hands to this one.
In this round.
So I'm going to have a show of
hands.
How many of you believe that racism and
misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's
defeat?
Okay.
So that's good.
You all pass.
Wow.
Capehart.
He's from NBC News.
He's not just MSNBC, isn't he?
No, no, he's not.
No, no.
Oh, I thought it was with the big
boys, with the mothership.
No, no.
He's on PBS.
Oh, he's out.
They're all out.
He's on PBS and MSNBC.
I don't think, I've never seen him on
NBC.
He is the associate editor of the Washington
Post and he's really an embarrassment to journalism
as far as I'm concerned.
He's super one-sided.
He's a big fan.
He's just a pathetic character.
So here we have, this is the DNC
new chair clip.
Okay.
There's a new chairman of the Democratic Party
as it comes to grips with the Republican
control of the White House and both houses
of Congress.
Ken Martin, the Minnesota party leader, won on
the first ballot, getting 32 more votes than
the majority he needed.
Martin has pledged to refocus the party's message
on working class voters and to improve the
party's rapid response to President Trump.
What does this guy have?
I mean, he's pasty white from Minnesota?
Yeah, something's going on with Minnesota.
What is this Minnesota?
What is the appeal of that guy?
I have no idea.
And there's a couple of clips of him
online that are just like embarrassing.
But okay.
So this is the last clip.
And that was from PBS, obviously.
Yeah, PBS.
So this is the last clip.
And this to me was epitomized what really
this thing was classic.
This thing was a joke, this DNC moment.
Yeah, it was.
And so they're just going to say, okay,
here's what we're going to do.
We're going to have you each introduce yourselves
one at a time.
And this was the group for the chair.
And there was one black woman, five white
dudes, a mixed race person, and one white
woman.
So you had eight people up there.
And so it starts off with the black
woman, who I have to wonder whether she
was looking around and saying, this is really,
I don't know why any blacks are buying
into any of this DNC stuff.
And maybe she's goofing here.
But this is the first.
When you introduce yourself, you go, I'm, you
know, John C.
Dvorak and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I did this and that in the Army,
did no agenda show.
And you introduce yourself.
But here's the way, and this to me
was the epitome of the entire event, was
this woman's introduction of herself.
And we'll begin with the opening statements.
Each candidate will have 30 seconds.
And we'll start with Dr. Quintessa Hathaway.
Good evening, everyone.
It is my desire to be the next
DNC chair.
And I just want to give you all
a little bit of something that's been on
my heart here over the last couple days.
You fight on, you fight on.
When your government is doing you wrong, you
fight on.
Oh, you fight on.
Thank you.
Thank you, Dr. Hathaway.
That's, I think that's something from the black
church, actually, that song.
Well, obviously one of the gospel songs of
some sort.
But what's that got to do with introducing
yourself?
And why would you do that in front
of this lily white audience?
Extra points.
Extra points, man.
Hey, you know, now that I'm thinking about
it, Ken Martin might be non-binary.
He has kind of that look.
Yeah, could be.
That androgynous look.
He has a Buddha judge.
He's like a Buddha judge type dude.
So the Democrat, this is the Democrat party.
And they're wondering, and I think the kicker
in the whole thing was, you know, how
many people think that Kamala Harris lost because
of misogyny and sexism, sexism and racism.
And they all said, yeah, that's the reason.
And they're going to, and then they went
into this transgender stuff and non-binary, and
they've just gone off the rails with this
stuff.
And they have nobody, people always ask me,
I've had a back and forth with a
few friends of mine of the liberal persuasion.
Oh, please.
You still, they still talk to you?
No, no, not them.
Oh, OK.
This is a big shot.
Oh, I was confused.
And it was like, what is it, what
are the Democrats going to do?
What can we do?
It's just like, there's no, is there any,
anybody on the horizon to fix this?
No.
They know they're in a pickle, the smart
ones.
Yeah.
And they can't get out of it because
they're in a, there is like in a
nosedive.
And they can't get out of it.
Yeah, it's, it's really sad.
It's really sad.
Well, what's somewhat sad about it is it
gives the, I mean, I'm not complaining necessarily,
but the Republicans really can't be given a
free rein.
What do you mean?
Oh, because we need some, some good pushback.
We need some pushback.
You can't just go nuts.
And if, if this, you know, after Trump's
first four years, if J.D. Vance gets
in, who's a sharper character than Trump and
younger and more, you know, kind of a
not, not as quite as conniving and interesting,
to say the least.
Conniving.
But he's, he could hold the thing for
another eight years.
Yeah.
And then after that, who knows?
But the Democrats have nothing going on.
Well, not at the moment, not the way,
not the way this is happening.
Not if it's going to be a bunch
of non-binaries.
But anyway, I think the honeypot was successful,
you know, threw everybody over and like, oh,
we got to go nuts over.
This is very, very, yeah, you're right.
It's disturbing.
It's like, read the room, you know, the
country, read the room with the country.
Well, so speaking of MSNBC and how they've
completely tied themselves to the DNC, there's some
interesting things happening, which we have been harping
on for years.
Literally years.
And that is about the funding.
We've mainly talked about NPR, but I think
we, I might have still had a syndicated
radio show because I remember us talking about
how the people who sell airtime for NPR,
which when you think about it, shouldn't be
sold as commercial airtime, but they are the
exact same people, the same salespeople who sell
commercial radio airtime.
And that's not how it's supposed to work.
And it's always kind of been skirting the
edge, I think, of the rules.
And this clip goes back to, I think,
this is 2017.
It may not even have been the first
time we played it.
What was the name of the lady who
was then running NPR at the time?
I forget her name.
Yeah, she's still floating around in Hollywood.
Yeah, you're right.
I can't remember her name of hand, unfortunately,
because it doesn't come up enough.
Well, this is 2017 when...
I think you're right.
I think this actually is before that.
I think the 2017 is the latest version
we played.
Redux, probably.
And here she was talking about their revenues
being down, but here's how she described it.
Okay, moving on to money.
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up
in the recession?
And what about foundation grants?
Two different stories.
Underwriting is down.
It's down for everybody.
I mean, this is the area that is
most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting,
advertising, call it whatever you want.
Call it whatever you want.
So the whole idea of underwriting for NPR
and PBS, I'm going to focus on NPR
for a moment since that's what we've always
been following, is that you can sponsor...
It's not even a sponsorship.
It's an underwriting.
It's an underwriting, which means...
Which is a term...
When she said advertising, whatever you want to
call it, underwriting, and I worked for public
radio myself, underwriting, I think, is just a...
I think it's a misnomer, and I think
it's a workaround.
For the law, I mean, it's in the
law that if you're a public broadcaster, you
cannot take advertising.
I think it's a workaround.
It always has been, but they've been pushing
the limits.
If anyone listens to NPR recently, there are
out-and-out advertisements on that network.
Yes.
The whole point being that you, as a
corporation, if you...
If you donate to NPR, which is a
nonprofit, nonprofit organization, you can write that off
as a tax expense, as a good deed,
a gift, if you will.
Always at issue...
I looked this up, actually.
The IRS has some kind of fuzzy language
because...
Here's what they say is the issue.
The problem presented by the issue of corporate
sponsorships is distinguished qualified sponsorship payments and the
associated acknowledgement of donors from the sale of
advertising, and thus the payment being treated as
unrelated business income.
So, on one hand, it breaks the 501c3
rules that the IRS recognizes for NPR.
On the other hand, simultaneously that makes it
difficult for those corporations to write it off
and take the tax benefit from that.
Anyway, Brendan Carr, who is the new FCC
chief, praise God we got this guy in,
not so much for what he's doing with
NPR, but just in general.
It was kind of going nuts.
That other lady was going all into the
internet.
And you remember she was like, oh, yeah,
we're going to only allow legal traffic, and
we'll see what Brendan Carr does.
But so far, he's been focusing on public
media.
And, of course, NPR wouldn't be NPR if
they didn't do a segment about themselves.
Now, some news about public media.
The new head of the Federal Communications Commission
under President Trump has ordered an investigation of
NPR and PBS.
He is focusing on the corporate underwriting spots
that you hear on shows like this one.
NPR media correspondent.
By the way, there was zero underwriting mention
in front of this report.
Funny, huh?
On shows like this one.
NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik joins me now.
And before I bring in David, I want
to note NPR has rules for reporting when
we report on ourselves.
Among them, no corporate official, no news executive
has had a hand in this coverage.
Unlike all other coverage, apparently.
Wow.
You know, that's kind of a funny admission.
Yeah.
Because, you know, it's like, oh, okay.
In this report, we can't.
In this particular report.
But play that little bit at the end
again, because there's something in there that's got
my attention.
Folkenflik joins me now.
And before I bring in David, I do
want to note NPR has rules for reporting
when we report on ourselves.
Among them, no corporate official, no news executive
has had a hand in this coverage.
Okay.
No news executive.
Yes.
Well, no corporate.
No corporate either.
She said no corporate.
But why would a news executive not have
a hand?
News executives are the editors, aren't they?
You would think.
And editors look at everything.
That's what they do.
That's their job, is to make sure that
the material is, like, abides by the principles
of whatever the hell that is.
In this case, Marie Louise is freewheeling it.
She's doing whatever she wants to do.
She's out of control.
With that, David, what is this investigation about?
Well, Marie Louise on its face involves concerns
raised by the new FCC chairman, Brendan Carr,
elevated by President Trump to that position, about
the question of whether our underwriting spots, just
as you say, the ones that we hear
on shows like this on NPR and on
PBS stations as well, are veering into becoming
crossing the lines, in fact, into becoming prohibited
commercial advertisements.
So, for example, if you hear something like
Toyota, you know, is underwriting NPR and stations
like this, they can't say, go buy a
Tercel or some other Toyota car.
They can say, you can learn more on
our website, and here's what you can do.
You can't have a call for action.
And there are other restrictions That's a call
for action.
I know.
He's completely wrong on this.
You cannot say, go to our website.
That's exactly...
Going to the website is a call for
action.
That's right.
I mean, how much more clear can it
be than, go to...
If they had a news editor, this piece
would never have aired this way.
Because the news editor, like you and I,
would have said, ho, ho, ho, ho, you
can't say that.
We got one of our producers, I don't
have it in front of me, but he
said, you know, we're at such a disadvantage
against commercial radio.
Well, yeah, you're not commercial radio.
Said, you know, the other guys, they can
do all kinds of stuff, promo codes, go
buy Geno.
And we can't do any of that?
Well, no, the whole...
That's the idea of public broadcasting.
They're given a whole chunk of the airway
for free...
...to do this sort of work, and now
they're bitching?
If you want to be a commercial radio
station, hey, go buy a frequency someplace else
and go become one.
What do you complain...
Well, how do you complain about this?
Well, this was what they tried to do.
Just like us, complaining about, oh, we don't
have any advertising.
Well, if you want to advertise and want
to do the show differently, we can do
that.
Yeah.
On YouTube, with video.
Yeah, with a big microphone.
And cans.
Cans.
Well, this is...
I mean, we can just look at this
from a historical perspective.
This is why NPR, through so much money
and resources at podcasting, not understanding that the
only way podcasting works is the way we
do it, with very little resources.
They had, you remember, like radio labs.
They had, like, 25 people working on that
one show?
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
No, we do it through volunteerism, too.
We have resources.
Yes.
We're basically NPR.
Properly done.
Actually, yes.
Except when people donate to us, you can't
write it off as a donation to a
non-profit, and then you can plug your
gigawatt coffee or whatever you got going.
It's a loophole.
They found a loophole.
Yes, they have.
The loophole is so big, you could turn
a 747 around in it.
You can't say, go buy a Tercel or
some other Toyota car.
They can say, you can learn more on
our website, and here's what you can do.
You can't have a call for action.
And there are other restrictions as well.
Unbelievable.
And that's what he's doing there.
It's worth also remembering, the FCC doesn't directly
regulate networks like NPR and PBS.
What it does is regulate...
What's the laugh tale, bro?
What do they mean they don't directly regulate?
What does that even mean?
What's the laugh tale for?
I don't know.
The FCC doesn't directly regulate networks like NPR
and PBS.
What it does is regulate the member stations,
which even in this digital age have to
get licenses approved by the FCC to broadcast
their news airwaves that are owned otherwise by
the public.
Okay.
So what he's saying is they don't actually
regulate the content, which is true.
A lot of this is done by, was
it PMX, I think, or what is it?
APM, American Public Media.
Those are commercial outfits.
They produce it commercially.
They get paid.
The member stations pay for that content, which
they, of course...
I don't know the prices.
Maybe some of our producers could tell us.
I'll bet you it's too expensive.
I'll bet you it's just too expensive.
And that's what they should be focusing on.
Give me an NPR station.
I'll change it.
I have to say, for example, that if
you look at, not NPR so much, but
PBS, you look at a show like Nova,
that thing costs a fortune to make.
Nova, Frontline, those two shows, for example, they
are not cheap shows.
Well, that's why they have Archer Daniel Midlands
and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
And they got the big boys supporting them
there.
You know, it's important.
We have to do some more pharma stories.
I mean, it's so corrupt.
Anyway, are they doing it right?
What have NPR and PBS said in response
to this investigation?
Well, it's my chance, as always, Mayor Louise,
to point out I'm not speaking for NPR.
I'm just the guy paid by NPR to
cover it.
Handsomely paid, I might point out.
Half a million dollars a year.
Handsomely paid to do this.
That guy was making it.
That guy makes half a million dollars a
year.
Most of these people do.
Most of the I think the top 10
people at NPR who are on air make
four and a half to five.
Oh, I saw this list.
Yeah, I just showed up.
Right.
Which is fine.
That's fine.
But then don't complain if you don't have
enough money to cover it.
Point out I'm not speaking for NPR.
I'm just the guy paid by NPR to
cover it.
But our chief executive, Catherine Mayer, as well
as the head of PBS, Paula Kerger, both
say, look, our programming and our underwriting messages
comply with the law.
They comply with federal regulations.
And they comply, as we've tried to do
for decades, with the guidelines that the FCC
itself has given us to make sure that
we're going on the straight and narrow, that
we're staying within the rules.
And both of them have said essentially that
they're confident that this review or inquiry will
ultimately affirm that they're adhering to these rules.
These would have real consequences for our, you
know, these 1,500 public broadcasting stations around
the country that are licensed by the FCC.
But, you know, they're saying we think that
we do it right.
And, you know, presumably, if their tweaks are
suggested, they would live with that, too.
Oh, yeah.
We'll take your tweaks.
I mean, it comes down to this difference.
So if we had a law firm, it
would be okay for NPR in California to
say, this program is brought to you by
the Curry-Dvorak law firm.
The problem is, what they do is this
program is brought to you by the Curry
-Dvorak law firm serving Californians and Texans since
1938.
See, that's the problem.
That's minimum.
But that's what they do.
I know.
They do that all.
Yeah.
All right.
What's at stake here?
David, just back up and give us a
sense of the broader stakes here.
I think it's really important.
You know, in some ways, you've got this
specific inquiry being raised by Chairman Carr, but
it fits into his call, which he made
expressly in his letters to the heads of
NPR and of PBS that he basically wants
there to be an elimination of all government
funding from the federal government for public broadcasting.
And he said he's basically going to share
what he finds with lawmakers on Capitol Hill
as they debate that very issue.
Trump tried without success several times to cut
that funding during his first term in office.
And it, of course, fits into this broader
assault rhetorically by President Trump and his allies
on the mainstream media.
Trump has taken to the courts to go
against major networks and major news organization.
He's, you know, made clear he intends to
use bureaucratic regulatory levers, as well.
This is one of them.
So you see this as, you know, really,
in some ways, an attack on public broadcasting's
federal funding and a questioning of its private
funding and, you know, creating more hostile climate
for media writ large.
Yeah, yeah.
Hostile.
Hostile to media writ large.
No.
Let's stop and make mention of one thing.
PBS and NPR.
PBS worse, I think, than NPR ever since
Gwen Ifill died.
Agreed.
We're sad.
Our mouthpiece is for the Democrat Party.
There's no question about it.
We've analyzed these stories.
We play them on the show.
And we go and we see it point
by point.
And you go if you go to the
my favorite thing, which I like to ridicule,
which is the Brooks and Capehart bit comedy
show on the news hour every Friday.
Who's on first, Brooks or Capehart?
And they go on agreeing with each other
about how what a dick Donald Trump is.
And that's the whole analysis.
And we've seen it before where they have
two sides of the same argument.
No, there's not two sides to an argument.
But they take an argument and put two
people on it that are on the same
side.
And they debate each other about the, you
know, and there's no other opposing views.
And it's classic because it because they have
no opposing views on PBS about a number
of topics.
It's all anti-Republican is what it amounts
to.
The the funny thing is, do you remember
that I did a I think it was
I don't know if it was a speech,
a keynote or roundtable for NPR and Yarrow
Moan was there.
Yarrow, formerly known as I vaguely remember this
story.
He's the guy that hired me at MTV
when he was known as Lee.
All right, buddy.
W.W.M.E. Lee Masters in the
afternoon.
And then he became Yarrow Moan.
Yeah.
Masters read the Lee Masters.
Yes.
And Lee was I liked him a lot.
He was a good guy.
He didn't like the guy who came in.
John Reardon screwed him, screwed him right out
of his MTV CEO position.
It was his buddy, too.
It was quite, quite ugly how that went
down.
But Lee had done a good thing because
Lee is a commercial kind of guy.
He had gotten a 100 million dollar, what
do you call it, endowment from some old
bag who had 100 million dollars.
And he secured that.
Some old bag.
Jeez.
Come on.
Kind of a show are we doing here?
I don't know.
We're ageist.
We're horrible.
From some old bag.
And it was 100 million dollars.
And they squandered that on podcasting.
That's what happened.
And by the way, NPR as podcasts, perfectly
fine.
It's a very good idea.
Pair it down.
Get down to small teams.
Oh, they have it over.
They're so overproduced.
They're like, you know, NPR has a certain
sound that we like.
Everyone likes the ridiculous sound.
Dead sound.
Dead room.
Close micing.
The whole thing.
Good afternoon, John.
How are you doing?
Look.
Although you have squeaky voices coming on more
and more that, you know, the low testosterone
voices and kind of dingbat women.
But besides that, you know, the classic sound
is a certain kind of a classic sound.
NPR.
And you hear a lot of breathing.
Yes, NPR.
That's right.
Everybody.
Look, you could put Heather and what's the
other, the Weinstein team on.
They're like NPR.
Well, yes.
Well, we're talking about this horrible COVID restrictions.
Exactly.
But the point I was going to make
was they the NPR sound is actually worsened
by their podcast, their podcasts on more NPR.
It's like everybody's on a podcast.
An NPR podcast to me seems like guys
auditioning to be on NPR.
Oh, it's where the farm team goes.
Absolutely.
Well, they're all the deal.
You want to be on the air where
really nobody is going out of the way.
They put a lot of work into it,
a lot of extra work.
They got extra producers.
It's a money loser.
And so everybody just wants to move up
to the A-team and they will add
the A-teams filled with a bunch of
low testosterone, squeaky voices.
So here once again is here once again
is the opportunity.
Jump in with your hyper local podcast.
You can take the audience from any small
town, burg or even city easily, easily by
doing just stuff about your city where you
live.
NPR will be gone.
They have the capability.
They have the people, but they have to
make less money and they would have to,
you know, spend less.
I mean, I can I can produce the
way they produce.
I could produce radio labs, radio labs.
I can do that.
You just did it.
Yeah.
See, that's how you do it.
Radio labs, radio labs, radio labs.
Yeah, I did that on the fly.
Don't even have to edit it.
So they're all going to be doing podcasts
and buttons.
I guarantee you that the next so-called
M5M person who goes to a podcast will
be from NPR.
And I hope it's Brooke Gladstone.
The people that are in NPR right now
are too.
They're not high profile enough.
And Brooke Gladstone is like this B-level
in terms of profile.
There's nobody except for John Yang, maybe.
You don't need a profile.
No, no.
If you want.
The next person that becomes a podcast is
going to be another mainstream media network dude
like Chuck.
Chuck Chiptod.
But look, when we started No Agenda, it
took us four or five years before there
was any question of quitting the day job.
We built it up.
I had a profile.
You had a profile.
What does it take?
Grinding, baby.
Grinding.
You got to grind to make it work.
You can't just waltz in.
It's not the media landscape doesn't work like
that anymore.
I hooked up the TV.
It never has worked like that.
I hooked up the TV in the studio.
It's on the wall now.
Well, you're going to be watching TV while
doing the show.
No, it's off now.
I don't do that while doing the show.
Tariff.
Trump concedes there may be some pain over
sweeping U.S. tariffs.
OK.
Breaking.
You know, but I.
So you just hit it and you say
configure.
It's a Samsung.
It's an old one.
It's probably five years old Samsung.
And that says select your network.
So, you know, I selected my my Internet,
the Wi-Fi, and it went through in
about five minutes.
It got me six hundred over the air
DTV channels.
It got all kinds of six hundred.
Yeah.
Five hundred and forty six.
I think you have five hundred broadcasters in
the signals.
Yeah.
Coming into Fredericksburg.
Yes.
I only have one hundred and twenty.
I'm in the San Francisco Bay area and
I'm right by the towers.
Yeah.
But I'm near San Antonio and Austin.
There's a lot of different people.
There's Chinese.
There's tons of Latin stuff and five hundred.
But.
Yeah.
But you know, one one station may have
five or six.
No, I understand how I know how it
works.
Five.
Yeah.
One station can have five subchannels besides the
point.
Yeah.
I got all kinds of stuff.
But besides that, then Samsung loaded up all
kinds of Samsung TV.
Pluto.
You got.
No, no, no.
No, no.
That was in addition.
It was in.
No, I know.
My LG set does that, too.
And you have to turn that off because
they only do that.
That's a scam.
Despite those phony channels to spy on me.
Yeah.
Because you have to agree to a bunch
of spyware.
Yes.
To watch those bull crap channels.
I turn them off.
I just got an email.
They're asking for two thousand dollars in Bitcoin
because they saw what I was doing in
my studio.
The TV is watching me.
Anyway, my point is that there is no
more monopoly.
No one cares about linear based media people.
The whole gaping hole is the locals.
There's nothing local.
When we had Snowmageddon in Austin, the NPR
station had high.
It's Brook Gladstone.
This American life.
They had to go to like the top
40 station.
Only the morning show because the rest was
all syndicated.
No one does anything local anymore.
So they've all priced themselves out of the
market.
And then funny enough, when Marco Rubio, our
secretary of state, goes out to do his
very first interview, very first interview.
Who does he choose?
Who?
Megyn Kelly.
Good for her.
There was a conference call between President Trump
and the Danish Prime Minister.
Apparently didn't go very well.
Reportedly involved with some sort of a meltdown
on the Prime Minister's part.
They don't want to give it up.
So what does that, what options does that
leave us?
Because President Trump did not rule out economic
or potentially military use.
Well, I think President Trump's, what he has
said publicly is he wants to buy it.
He wants to pay for it.
And how we worked on something like that,
how something like that is approached obviously is
probably done better in the appropriate forms as
opposed to a lot of the stuff is
done publicly.
And it's not helpful because it puts the
other side in a tough spot domestically.
So those conversations are going to happen.
But this is not a joke.
Like what he's saying is pretty accurate.
People don't talk about it for years.
We do have, this is not about acquiring
land for the purpose of acquiring land.
This is in our national interest and it
needs to be solved.
President Trump's put out there what he intends
to do, which is to purchase it.
I wasn't privy to that phone call.
But I imagine the phone call went the
way a lot of these phone calls go
and that is, he just speaks bluntly and
frankly with people.
And ultimately, I think diplomacy in many cases
works better when you're straightforward as opposed to
using platitudes and language that translates to nothing.
Yes, this is what we've always said, America
should be run by a business guy.
So let's look forward four years.
Does the US own Greenland?
We'll see.
I mean, obviously that's the President's priority and
he has made that point.
I think that what I can tell you
about four years without getting into specifics because
I don't- No.
I don't know.
Because I don't know.
I don't have a crystal ball, Megan.
Exactly how we'll proceed tactically.
What I think you can rest assured of
is that four years from now, our interest
in the Arctic will be more secure.
Our interest in the Panama Canal will be
more secure.
Our partnerships in the Western Hemisphere will be
stronger.
Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So Denmark came back.
Denmark is going public with their strategy.
You're not going to believe this.
Deutsche Welle had the scoop.
Should Denmark prepare for a possible military attack
by the United States?
When the President of the European Council considered
it necessary to say that the territorial integrity
of Denmark is a crucial issue for the
European Union.
And that was in reaction to what US
President Donald Trump has repeatedly said.
Namely, that the US wants control of the
Arctic island of Greenland.
Trump has refused to exclude the use of
force to seize it.
If you don't know, Greenland is an autonomous
territory that is in the kingdom of Denmark.
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen received backing from
European allies over the issue on visits to
Berlin and Paris this week.
She's repeatedly said the island is not for
sale.
The latest survey of Greenlanders shows that 85
% do not want to belong to the
United States.
So then they bring on a lady from
the Atlantic Council who's there in Denmark.
By the way, that Frederiksen lady, she's a
beast.
She's like eight feet tall.
Have you seen her wearing cowboy boots?
Which she should take off right away.
You can't wear cowboy boots.
No, you're not American yet.
So they bring in the...
Yet.
They bring in the lady from the Atlantic
Council.
You won't believe this strategy.
It's fantastic.
I'm joined now by Elisabeth Broll.
She's a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's
Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security.
And you write that Denmark doesn't have to
be a pushover for Donald Trump when it
comes to Greenland.
So tell us, how can the Danes hit
the US, not below the waist, but actually
directly in the waistline?
As your viewers may know, Ozempic is the
drug of the moment in the United States.
Hugely popular weight loss drug.
And Ozempic is made by Nova Nordisk, a
Danish company that also happens to be Europe's
most valuable or second most valuable company, depending
on what day of the year you're looking.
And Ozempic is a Danish product.
And it's one of several products made by
Danish companies that are very popular in the
United States.
Lego is also very popular.
And masks, the shipping company.
Supplies.
All manner of goods.
And also transports US exports to other countries.
These are Danish companies that are indispensable to
the United States.
Daily functioning.
If they were not to be available, that
would be a problem.
OK, before I play the final clip.
Oh, brother.
OK, you got, you know, I'm going to
give you a borderline clip of the day
for that stupidity.
Borderline clip of the day.
Now, here's, this is so perfect for America.
We love this stuff.
Just like you said, all right, we're going
to close Legoland.
We're opening up Erectorset land.
We don't need plastic from Norway.
We have, we have Lincoln Logs.
We don't need your stupid, how about Duplo?
Duplo is the fake Legos, Duplo probably comes
from China.
Yeah, right, those things.
Yeah, the Chinese will move in and take
this over in a minute.
No problem.
And what has Lego really done for us?
It's only hurt me stepping on them in
the middle of the night.
Yeah, you step on the damn things.
The kids go nuts.
They're no good.
They want these kits.
The kits cost a fortune.
They're outrageous.
It's like Space Station Moon.
Yeah.
What is it?
40 bucks.
What?
It's just a bunch of Legos in a
box.
All right, why don't you keep your Ozempic?
There's plenty other, there's Deathbound, we got Wegovy,
we got all kinds of other products.
And by the way, GLP-1 is not
patented.
I think it's public domain by now, isn't
it?
GLP-1?
Yeah, it's like, well, there's, we have special,
well, listen to this as a final, we
have special stuff, you know, we got some
extra bitch that you don't have in America.
I just want to be clear on this.
Ozempic is not produced in the United States,
so if Denmark wanted to stop production in
Denmark and say no more for the US,
it could basically turn the supply of Ozempic
in the US to zero.
Some components of Ozempic are manufactured in the
United States, but not the active components.
Without the active components, you don't have the
medication that you need to produce.
So that gives Denmark considerable leverage.
Now, Novo Nordic has been planning to expand
Ozempic manufacturing in the United States, but it's
not able to manufacture the entire drug from
scratch in the United States, even if it
wanted to.
And that would be, that means if Novo
Nordic were to be told by the Danish
government not to ship its products to the
United States anymore, then Ozempic would not be
available to American users, consumers, and patients anymore.
Yeah.
And then how about, that is basically your
GDP, is those two companies.
Yeah, let's just shoot our own company in
the head, not in the foot, but in
the head, by cutting off the main market
for Ozempic, which is a bunch of fat
Americans that are too lazy to exercise and
rather just take a shot in the gut.
We are the best.
You know, go ahead.
Oh yeah, let's cut that off.
That'll show us.
We got by when we were fat.
We did okay.
Oh man, we'll just, you know, RFK Jr.,
we don't need you.
He's going to make us healthy again.
Oh man, I got to play this for
you.
My hate, listen, pivot, pivot, pivot, pivot.
It was just because this was so.
This is like, this is like your new
drug.
Oh no, it's not new.
I've been on, I've been, I've been mainlining
this drug.
I've been mainlining it for, for years.
I know I love it.
Very unhealthy.
So they're talking about Bobby the Alp, RFK
Jr. And of course, you know, it's an
outrage.
He's, he's going to bring that polio.
You know, we're all going to die.
So we just start with, we'll start with,
with this.
And they had Reed Hoffman on the whole,
the whole show.
So this was like my hate, listen, plus
some chocolate sprinkles.
Reed Hoffman from, he's from LinkedIn, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
LinkedIn.
Okay.
Here we go.
The fat guy from LinkedIn, who's just a
big Democrat.
Exactly.
The fat Democrat, a fatocrat.
Here we go.
He is being paid to find people to
sue Gardasil, an HPV vaccine that so far
has shown to reduce cervical cancer in women
by 90%.
I don't think it's 90%, but okay.
I don't know if either of you know.
By the way, stop.
That is a meme.
I've heard it before, exactly the same ways,
put in the same sentence.
And Gardasil's really got their, their words sick
that, you know, because we noticed that we,
we talked about this when it first came
out.
It's, it's not a good product.
No, we don't think it's a good product.
It certainly doesn't stop more than, I think,
three strains of, uh, cervical cancer.
But wait, but the funniest bit is still
to come.
To reduce cervical cancer in women by 90%.
I mean, I don't know if either of
you have known anyone with cervical cancer.
I have, my God, we have.
I guess you didn't advise your friends to
take HPV.
Something, we have something that can prevent nine
out of 10 times, this vicious, awful disease.
And we have the head of HHS being
paid to try and discourage and financially damage
that miracle.
This guy has no business at HHS.
Wait, wait for it.
It's a miracle.
He, he, he is probably the most dangerous
of the nominees in terms of what it
could mean long-term without attribution, where in
10 years we wake up and go, Oh,
cervical cancer is back and reverse engineer it
to this individual who is blatantly, repeatedly anti
-vaccine.
I think this is awful.
I made my sons get it immediately.
I almost fell over when I heard that.
Cervical cancer, women with cervical cancer.
I made my sons get it immediately.
Okay.
Oh my God.
Now we're going to bring in Reed Hoffman.
This is the new meme about Bobby.
So look, um, I think you got it.
So look, so look, so look, so look,
so look, um, I think the unfortunate prediction
for RFK is, you know, probable confirmation is
it will probably be measured in thousands of
American lives lost.
Right?
I think that the question around, I love
that.
Right.
It's Silicon Valley talk.
You know, when you say something that is
just unbelievable, right?
Probable confirmation is it will probably be measured
in thousands of American lives lost.
Right?
I think that the, the question around the
fact that he's saying, I'm just following science.
No, he's not.
Right.
It's just, it's, it's not only the anti
vaccine in, you know, many, many, many statements
over decades, like he's essentially anti science.
Like I've heard of meetings where he is
meeting with, with scientists, where the scientists try
to tell him, no, no, you're supposed to
listen to me.
It's like, no, no.
The whole point is to listen to, to,
to good scientists.
And I think this will be, you know,
if this confirmation goes through, I think the,
you know, the senators who vote on it
should track, you know, how many thousands of
American lives they're willing to spend, you know,
in this calculus, because if he, you know,
any of the things that he has thought
of, he has articulated and talked about, you
know, I think it, the cost is going
to be measured in lives.
Your cost is going to be measured in
lives, lives killed or created.
Okay.
So that was Reid Hoffman.
Now comes the kicker, the absolute kicker.
Not everyone kicker.
Yeah.
It's a 14 second kicker.
Not everybody will understand this one, but you
certainly will.
Have you been, been surprised by how many
tech people, um, have been attracted to him?
I'm not going to leave out Nicole Shanahan.
She was not a tech person.
She's just a rich person who married a
tech person who may, and got money that
way.
Hello, pot, kettle.
Yeah.
Cause she is married to, uh, what's her
name from Google.
Yeah.
That's how Kara Swisher got rich.
Yes.
Yeah.
Cause Kara, Kara's basically, uh, she wrote her
claim to fame when I knew her.
Was being on, uh, the Silicon spin.
No, well she was on Silicon spin, but
her claim to fame was she wrote a
book about AOL.
Yes, exactly.
That's it.
And her book about AOL was just like
a classic, you know, uh, I don't know
if you want to, there's, there's terms for
these kinds of books and it's just a
throwaway.
And she, uh, crap.
Is that the term?
Crap?
No, no, no.
It's actually a technical term for the kind
of book she wrote.
it doesn't again.
Yeah.
It's not a good day.
Too much.
Not enough sleep.
That's what it is.
Uh, she, uh, science fiction.
Is that what it's called?
Science fiction.
No, it's, it's, it's like cut and paste.
It's a, it's a term I've long lost,
but it's a book where you throw stuff
together based on most work that other people
did.
Ghost.
It's a research book.
You just do.
No, it's a research where you just do
a bunch of stuff that's out there and
you package it.
Coloring book.
Yes.
A coloring book.
Let me get back to the point.
Okay.
So, uh, she was brought on the silicone
spin because of this book.
And it was obvious to me that she
knew nothing about, she was not a techie
by any means.
I mean, the people that we had on
that show were technical people and a lot
of them were engineers.
And we had a lot of CEOs and,
you know, that type of guy that, but
the CEO, startup CEOs, the guys who knew
what they were doing.
And she was never that way.
She was just a good talker.
She was a good talker.
And, and had a, just, and she was
married to Megan.
Yeah.
And I think she made a lot of
money out of the divorce.
Yeah, I'm sure she did.
Right.
So she's saying Nicole Shanahan, she's not a
techie.
She just married a tech guy and got
a lot of money out of it.
It's like, come on, projecting.
A pop-up book is being suggested.
It's a pop-up book.
Well, she also got, she also worked with,
she had the show, uh, carried it with
this.
Uh, eventually she went on to work with,
uh, Walt Mossberg.
Yes.
At the wall street journal and had the
D3 conference.
A real actual, unlike myself, uh, actual curmudgeon.
Yes.
Who, uh, thought he, his shit didn't stink.
And he was, uh, just, um, a blowhard
of, of, I am thankful.
I regard, I am thankful though, to, to
Walt and Kara, as it was at the
D3 conference that Steve jobs invited me to
come have a meeting with her.
So in, in a way, you know, Kara
is where she should just claim that if
it wasn't for me, Curry never would have
spoken to jobs and never would have gotten
into podcasting.
Never would have happened.
She could, she'd do it.
He's not a techie.
He's just a VJ.
She could go there.
They're still shopping their show.
I know better.
Yeah, you do.
You're more of a techie than a VJ.
Shh, don't tell anybody.
And, uh, but you do, you do, you
do like your voice.
It's different.
I certainly like my own voice.
Yes.
Let's do tariffs, John, because everyone's going crazy.
It came out Friday tariffs are going for
tariffs, big, beautiful, the most beautiful word in
the dictionary is tariffs.
And I see some clips.
I have three clips on tariffs.
I could have had a couple more.
I was going to get last night, but
I was getting late.
I said, screw it.
The BBC had some work done.
Uh, they had brought, brought somebody.
I actually, I actually have a BBC, uh,
tariffs clip.
Why don't you play the BBC tariffs clip?
Then I'm going to play.
These are, these clips are mostly analysis and
they, they all come, I believe from NPR.
For decades, trade wars looked to be a
thing of the past.
The future instead seemed to belong to globalization,
to China and to the big regional trading
powers.
No more from today, Saturday, the United States
says it's imposing tariffs on its three biggest
trading partners.
Speaking at the white house on Friday, president
Trump said he would deliver on his campaign
pledge to impose tough tariffs on imports from
China, Canada, and Mexico.
We have about a $200 billion deficit with,
with Canada, getting close to $200 billion.
It's, they've treated us very unfairly.
And I say, why should we be subsidized?
Canada, they, you know, it's wonderful.
I have so many friends in Canada.
It's a great place.
We'll see what happens.
And with Mexico, it's the same thing, wonderful
friends, $250 billion deficit.
As we record this podcast, it's still not
clear if there'll be any exemptions, but the
threat of high tariffs brought this response from
the former bank of England, governor Mark Carney,
who's currently on the campaign trail to take
over as leader of the liberal party and
as Canadian prime minister from Justin Trudeau.
I think, uh, President Trump probably thinks, uh,
that we in Canada will cave in, but
we're, we are going to stand up to
a bully.
We're not going to back down.
We're united.
Um, and, we will retaliate.
Ultimately the, uh, the steps that, uh, the
president is taking against Canada, contemplating, I guess
as well against Mexico, China, others, uh, and
threatening the world, uh, are going to rebound
negatively on the United States.
They're going to hit growth.
They're going to move up inflation.
They're going to raise, uh, uh, interest rates.
They're going to damage the U S reputation
around the world.
It might be good before you get into
your analysis clips to explain what, what, what
a trade deficit is and how it works.
Cause no one, no one in the M5M
does that.
No one explains when Trump says they're ripping
us off $200 billion.
No one has, there's just no explanation.
And I'd love to hear it myself.
Well, you know what it is?
It's like I have, I'm making a product
that's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, there's 2 and 0.
for example, we buy beef that comes from
China and we send our Texas beef over
there to be sold like caviar.
We buy pork.
Probably.
That's what?
That's their business to how they sell the
product.
But the point is, is that I'm going
to go back to the Simma mugs.
So I make $50 million worth of mugs.
I sent $50 million worth of mugs to
China.
They make a hundred million dollars for the
mugs and they send our country a hundred
million dollars.
we're in the hole $50 million.
So that's the trade deficit is that we're
sending X amount over there, they're sending X
times two over here.
So our outflow is going to them instead
of coming this way.
So the money, we're just basically throwing money
away.
And this is done, this is created usually
by the cost of labor or the efficiencies
of the business or the fact that the
Chinese are subsidizing government subsidizing their companies or
they all own the companies.
There's a lot of different reasons for it,
but you end up with Canada sending more
product to us than we send to them.
They just won't, they're either not buying our
product or they're blocking our products or they're
marketing against our products, whatever the case is
not balanced.
And what Trump always wants and everybody wants
is balanced trade, which is you send 500
million over to us, we send you 500
million of something else.
And that's the idea of world trade is
that it's supposed to be all balanced.
You get so lopsided that you're in the
hold of these countries and that's the balance
of trade.
That's what it's referring to.
And was that the original idea with the
World Trade Organization that that would all be
balanced?
The World Trade Organization was set up to
make sure that this system worked right.
So you didn't have these kinds of, that's
where the Chinese are going at with this
10% that Trump said he's gonna, ah,
10% China, everything.
And which would include a lot of stuff.
But it won't really mean much because China's
stuff is so cheap anyways.
But they're gonna immediately, and they've done this
before, they'd go to the WTO, which was,
they were given membership, this was.
They go crying?
Yeah, and the last time they went to
the WTO, the WTO ruled in their favor
and we had to pull back some tariffs
of some sort.
And they're gonna do it again.
They already said that and that was discussed
in the BBC reports that I heard that
the Chinese are just gonna bitch to the
WTO and, you know, tell us to pound
salt.
I don't think they're gonna get it.
They haven't done anything.
The real tariff that nobody wants to talk
about is the 100% tariff that Trump
has, and I think this has been going
on since first Trump, Trump won on electric
vehicles.
But that's why we see no Chinese electric
cars on the road.
We don't see BYD, which is probably the
fastest growing car company in the world.
And I think they'll surpass Toyota in the
next.
No, they can do sponsorships on NPR instead
of the Toyota Tercel.
They can do the BYD.
By the way, when's the last time Toyota
made a Tercel?
Yeah, well, that's how old those people are
at NPR.
That's how they think.
I think in those terms.
They sold WNPR, brought to you by Toyota
Tercel.
I mean, I can't explain it any better
than that.
I mean, it's- Yeah, okay, good.
No, that's good.
I appreciate it.
It just means you're not selling enough.
You're not exporting enough.
You must understand that some of our younger
listeners have never had this education.
They don't know.
This is not taught in school.
They don't teach.
They should be teaching civics in school before
anything.
Well, true.
All right, let's get into your analysis.
Okay, so we're gonna start with, I guess
this is from PBS now that I think
about it.
But we'll find out by hearing the voices.
Here we go with the tariff intro.
America's biggest trading partners are bracing for sweeping
tariffs that President Trump is imposing.
25% on imports from Canada and Mexico,
except 10% on energy products from Canada.
Tariff threats have been a bargaining chip in
Mr. Trump's effort to get America's neighbors to
curb the flow of migrants and drugs into
the United States.
Together, Canada, Mexico, and China account for nearly
half of all U.S. imports, and tariffs
could mean higher prices for American consumers.
Ali Rogin explores the trickle-down effects of
these tariffs with Martina Steves-Gridner.
She's the Canadian bureau chief for The New
York Times.
And before we get into that, we have
the USMCA.
And the USMCA allows in this year, I
believe, for the President of the United States,
uniquely the President of the United States, to
renegotiate the deal.
If we don't like how it's going, that
was a big deal to put that in.
Another one of our fine deals were, hey,
we don't like what you're doing, we'll stop.
Well, then don't do business with us.
So we put that in there.
I believe that the- We're fair.
The workaround here is by saying, I'm doing
it for immigration and drug trafficking.
I think that's a workaround.
Because how is he actually going to measure
this and say, oh, well, we got less
fentanyl.
How do we know this?
Well, this is the interesting thing about it,
because what you just said there is kind
of what I'm thinking.
I have a skeptical thought in my mind
when he introduces the New York Times bureau
chief.
I'm thinking New York Times, oh, this will
be interesting from Canada.
I said, this is, and I started recording
it for this reason.
I said, oh, this is going to be
a gem.
It turns out I was completely wrong.
She's really good at analyzing this.
And except the one thing that keeps cropping
up with everybody who talks about this is
they, oh, the Mexicans, we're going to be
suffering because of the avocados.
And you know- They keep bringing avocados
up, like we're going to die.
Remember, Super Bowl Sunday is next week.
We're all going to die if we don't
have our avocados.
We need our guac.
Without guac, there's no game.
Well, guac and avocado toast, don't forget that.
Oh, woo, all the young kids.
So, you know, you can, well, you know,
just as not to change the subject completely,
but I will say, I've talked about this
on the show before, if you can get
Peruvian- Yeah, they're better.
They're better.
Yeah.
And of course, we do grow avocados in
California, which are quite good.
The Mexican avocados are actually, I think, second
rate, but that's just my opinion.
But, you know, they're from California.
They're commivados.
We don't want communist avocados.
We want a good Mexican avocado, but you're
right.
That's the only thing.
It's tequila, tomatoes.
That's the other one.
You're right.
Tequila.
You're not going to get any more tequila.
I mean, is anyone sitting at home like,
oh no, oh no, what am I going
to do?
We'll drink- Limes.
We'll drink bourbon, whatever.
It's fine.
All right, we'll go to tariff two.
Matina, thank you so much for joining us.
Mexican and Canadian officials have said they plan
to impose retaliatory tariffs.
What is the effect on Americans in all
this?
I think the immediate effect, or experts say
the immediate effect, is going to be inflation,
is going to be higher prices, a disruption
of several industries that are so closely linked
to Canada and Mexico.
Things such as avocados or even vehicles could
become much more expensive for Americans really quickly.
You mentioned some of the consumer items, but
what do we know about what sectors of
the U.S. economy are going to be
most affected by these tariffs going into effect?
The Canadian government is certainly going to be
imposing retaliatory tariffs in key industries in the
U.S. that they think will hurt the
most because they're trying to change the course
of this policy.
They want to exert maximum pain.
And that could include anything from Kentucky bourbon,
they've told me, to orange juice coming from
California, to dishwashers made in Wisconsin.
So they have a long list of goods
that they believe that they can impose tariffs
on made in the United States.
And they will want to disrupt those industries
in the U.S. as quickly as possible.
And of course, the economies and the people
of Canada and Mexico are going to be
impacted as well.
What are the consequences for people in those
two countries?
Absolutely.
The U.S. will hurt, but Mexico and
Canada will hurt more and faster.
We expect, for example, in Canada, the country
will probably tip into a recession of 2
.6%, experts tell us here.
We expect hundreds of thousands of jobs to
be affected, half a million jobs just here
in Ontario, where I live.
And also the availability of certain goods will
be disrupted as these tariffs come into play.
The pain will be longer for those two
smaller economies than it will be for the
United States.
You know, for years, since the beginning of
this program, in its 18th year now, we
have always given Canada a break.
Like, if you support us with 200 Canadian
dollars, which now is like, what is it?
67 cents a dollar, I think.
It's like, no, it's like $150.
But we still give you the associate executive
producer credit.
I mean, is it time to reevaluate that?
Should we be more patriotic?
Should we be on that?
Should we be consolidated with, or what would
it be, compadre with Trump?
We should go with Trump.
Yeah, we should do tariffs.
And cut this Canadian, no.
I will say, no, we're not gonna do
that because we're not a political show at
all.
No, we very rarely talk about politics.
I'm being facetious a little bit, but.
But will there be a rift between Americans
and Canadians?
Will the people- Will the Canadian dollar
fall even further is the question I'd be
asking as far as donations are concerned.
We'll still support you, Canada.
We love you guys.
You're a producer.
You're in Gitmo Nation.
You're not in a country.
You're in Gitmo.
You know, I'll talk about this later in
the show, but we had the Albany meetup.
Yeah, I can't wait to hear about it.
Which was very entertaining in this.
Yeah, I saw a picture.
I saw a picture.
You looked very entertained.
Well, I don't know if I'd look entertained
ever.
No, you don't.
You looked like, they're taking a picture of
me.
Oh yeah, I don't like those pictures.
Anyway, so it came up in the conversation
though that we've lost all of our Australian
donors and supporters.
We have nobody that's, but we have, I
think we had one last show, one from
New South Wales.
Yeah, yeah.
And we're starting to lose our English supporters.
Well, they're not allowed.
They're not allowed.
They're afraid to support us.
I don't even want to hear this show
anymore.
I don't know.
We may be blocked.
It's possible, yeah.
Do you think that people just hate us
because we're Americans?
Is that where this is going?
No, I think that, I'm not sure where
it's going or why it's happening, but I
think these, maybe they're not getting enough attention
from us, even though we do produce a
lot of material.
Well, the attention they get from us is
usually not positive.
Yeah, let's see.
Yeah, we're giving them too much negative attention.
We're moaning and groaning about the Brits and
their censorship.
I'm looking at the list.
We have one Dutch producer, one Italian producer,
one from Portugal, and one from Western Australia,
one from Japan, and, oh, there's a couple
of, there's a couple of sustaining donors from
the UK.
I see one from Belgium, but yeah.
Well, maybe that's our own fault.
I don't know.
I can't help it.
I can't help it that you guys are
lost.
Your government is lost, at least.
You know, we are- And we do
gross about the EU more than any other
podcast.
And maybe they don't like the mirror.
Like, look what's happening.
That's possible.
Well, we're sorry if we- We're sorry,
but we don't feel the way we do
this show.
No, we can't do anything about it.
No, we can't help that, yes.
We're trying to be entertaining.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, try.
All right, third clip here.
Yeah.
President Trump has threatened these tariffs as a
bargaining tactic.
Is this an effective way to regulate what
he says are his ultimate goals, which are
limiting immigration and fentanyl trafficking?
He's been very effective already on the question
of borders, which was the first thing he
said he was trying to extract out of
these tariffs.
Both Canada and Mexico have played ball.
They have complied with Mr. Trump's demands for
changes at the borders.
For example, the Mexican government has supported and
assisted him in his deportation efforts this week
of irregular migrants taking thousands of people into
Mexico.
Irregular migrants, really?
Is that the term now?
Irregular migrants.
What size are you, irregular?
Week of irregular migrants taking thousands of people
into Mexico.
Canada has bolstered its border with the United
States, has deployed Blackhawks, drones, and additional staff.
And they have said that they are seeing
a real drop in irregular crossings from Canada
to the United States.
But the question in both Mexico and Canada
is, is that enough to change Mr. Trump's
mind?
And it's really not clear that it will
be.
These are some of the most ambitious trade
moves that President Trump has made in either
of his administrations.
This coming so soon in the beginning of
his second term in the White House.
How are Canadian and Mexican officials receiving it
in terms of how to deal with President
Trump going forward for the rest of his
term?
We've seen a really different attitude from Canada
and from Mexico.
Mexico has mostly been quite steely, a little
more aggressive in its rhetoric, but working behind
the scenes.
The Canadian government has tried to be a
little more conciliatory.
While also threatening to retaliate with its own
terrorists.
But for example, its foreign minister, Canada's foreign
minister was in Washington, D.C. up until
last night trying to change the course of
this policy through diplomacy.
Obviously that didn't work.
I think one of the concerns going forward
in both countries and their officials is gonna
be, what does Mr. Trump really want from
us?
How can we truly change this?
And as we escalate into practically a North
American trade war, as these three countries exchange
retaliatory tariffs, what is the off ramp?
How do we stop this?
Trade war.
Yeah.
Trade, well, we're in one.
We're in one because now the way this
show works, John has all his clips done
typically Saturday evening.
I do my clips in the morning and
we have retaliation.
We have retaliation.
Mexico first.
It looks like Claudia Sheinbaum is saying she's
gonna go pretty equally.
So the United States is talking about 25
% and they're gonna really try and punish
US exporters to Mexico in the same kind
of level.
So already people, there's been predictions that if
this happens, Mexico will go into recession, within
a few months of this trade war going
into effect.
And you'll see, you know, you have about
half a trillion dollars worth of trade.
Mexico is about the biggest trade partner with
the United States in the world now, bigger
than China or Canada.
And so, so many goods, you know, including
things like avocados, which are very popular in
game day, coming up next Sunday.
Game day, game day.
Will be, you know, prices go up and
all of these kinds of things.
So it'll be really, really big impact.
A lot worse for Mexico, but the United
States will feel it as well.
I think most people seeing this thought Donald
Trump was bluffing.
It was a form of putting pressure on
Mexico effectively to crack down.
But as he's talking about in Canada, it's
unsure what he's really after.
Is he really want to change the whole
trade arrangement and feels that people who are
importing goods to the United States should be
paying for that privilege?
And so kind of basically changing the whole
idea of free trade in this region.
Free trade.
Yes, exactly.
So that's Mexico.
Justin Trudeau.
Before you go to Canada, I want to
mention that there is one thing that I
don't have the clip of and may have
been on the BBC clips.
The mention that the president of Mexico, the
woman.
Yes, Sheinberg.
Sheinberg, Sheinboig.
She is irked by the fact that Trump
claims these cartels are running the country and
that the government is corrupt.
This is obviously going on.
And it's just an insult to her that
we got no, there's no corruption in Mexico.
Right.
Meanwhile, we're shooting it back and forth with
cartel at the border who are now a
terrorist organization.
I mean, you know what?
It's interesting that there was almost no one,
no reports really about the ISIS strike.
I have one.
The one in Somalia.
Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute
then.
Because there was very little about that.
I do have the clip.
There was more interest.
No coverage whatsoever.
I noticed this too.
Very little coverage.
Justin Trudeau took a different tactic.
You heard of France 24 report there about
Mexico.
And he spoke directly to the American people.
Now they couldn't mic him properly, which was
very- Good work.
Really unfortunate.
So I had to do some NPR level
filtering, but here it is.
First, I want to speak directly to Americans,
our closest friends and neighbors.
Closest friends.
This is a choice that yes, will harm
Canadians.
But beyond that, it will have real consequences
for you, the American people.
So he says, yes, this will hurt Americans
or hurt us, Canadians, but it will have
real consequences for you, American people.
As I have consistently said, tariffs against Canada
will put your jobs at risk, potentially shutting
down American auto assembly plants and other manufacturing
facilities.
Is that true?
Will it shut down American auto plants?
Well, see, this is what's going to end
up happening, in my opinion.
There's more to it, but we'll just-
We're doing so, what?
There's more to the clip, but we'll just
stop it as we go along.
I was just going to say that it's
that we do have parts manufacturing in Canada
and Mexico that go into our cars that
are built here.
And some of them, the cars are built
in Mexico and some of the cars are
built in Canada.
And so that is an issue, which I
think is something I think may be, it
may bring it to the fore to the
point where we bring some of these manufacturing
- Over here, over here.
Back to the, which is what Trump wants.
That's the whole point.
Because we have, there are manufacturings down the
tubes and we got to bring it all
back.
Yeah, okay.
It will raise costs for you, including food
at the grocery store, gas at the pump.
Hey, we're ready for it, Justin.
We're ready to shoulder the burden.
It's like a game of chicken watching these,
and they haven't got the- Well, I've
thought about it.
Well, we're driving a semi and they're driving
a Chevy.
I've thoughts about it.
It will impede your access to an affordable
supply of vital goods crucial for US security.
Oh, vital goods crucial for our security.
We're in danger now.
What are these vital goods?
Such as nickel, potash, uranium, steel, and aluminum.
They will violate- That's all you got?
What about Molson beer?
Free trade agreement that the president and I,
along with our Mexican partner, negotiated and signed
a few years ago.
As I've said before, if President Trump wants
to usher in a new golden age for
the United States, the better path is to
partner with Canada, not to punish us.
So as I'm thinking about this, clearly this
is- What do you mean by that?
Well, because he says, well, if just a
few years ago, it was a little more
than a few years ago that the USMCA
was negotiated.
And this- Well, if you go, it
really stems from the Clinton administration, to be
honest about it.
Yes.
NAFTA.
Right, but this was the modernization of NAFTA.
It wasn't that different.
And it's up for renegotiation, which is what
all of this is about, aboot.
But is, I mean, this could also trigger
the financial meltdown if everyone goes into recession.
I mean, is this in some ways maybe
a setup?
I mean, we've been waiting for this to
happen.
We've been waiting for things to trigger.
And it's not minor, the stuff that's going
on here.
Yeah, China, I think is pretty minor, the
10%.
I'm not quite sure what that means or
how much it will mean.
I mean, will this ultimately result in people
in America waking up and saying, let's get
to work, Joe.
Let's go build some stuff.
No, well, that's maybe, we may be beyond
that point.
De-dollarization maybe, just everything just goes down.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, it feels like there's a bigger
plan behind this at play.
This is, it's clearly not just for immigration
and fentanyl.
There's just no way.
We like our fentanyl.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it doesn't feel, that's clearly not
being genuine.
It's about trade.
Because he says it all the time.
We didn't rip it off.
I think it's about what I said a
little while ago, which is getting industries to
relocate back into the United States and get
the foreign countries to open up here and
invest in the country.
Okay.
I mean, it seems like a good idea.
Well, I think President Trump needs to come
out and say something publicly, because now it's
just little quotes, like, there will be some
pain.
No, he needs to come out and he
needs to say to the American people, he
needs to get everybody together now.
Because- Well, he said, when he said
the pain, that was just a clip of
what he really said, which was, there's going
to be some pain, but the country will
understand.
Yeah, but he's got to do more.
I'm just thinking out of the box.
He's got to do more.
People, you know, now it's just, now it's
kind of- What can he do?
He's- He's too weave.
I have to play the two clips after
you're done with this.
Go ahead.
That's what we got.
Okay, these are, again, well, these are, you
know, I call these clips TikTok clips.
They're not always TikTok clips, but there's this,
these are the clips about the 10-day
clips.
Here's one of them.
This is the talk 10-day clip.
Do you get it now?
It's been 10 days.
It's only been 10 days.
I saw a quote the other day, and
it said, the people who aren't horrified, horrify
me the most.
It's been 10 days.
What does this even mean?
10 days of Trump.
It's some sort of a sub-Rosa theme
that's been going on.
Listen to, here's the other one.
Listen to this talk, mental health 10 days.
Have you checked on your American friends lately?
Because we're not okay.
The past 10 days has felt like a
year.
For so many of us right now, we
cannot keep up with all of these horrific
executive orders coming down hour after hour, day
after day in the first 10 days.
Add to that the first commercial plane crash
in over a dozen years, claiming the lives
of everyone involved.
It is genuinely looking bleak over here for
a lot of us.
We are doing our best not to have
our spirits crushed.
And as somebody who works in mental health,
I can tell you this feels like COVID
all over again.
It is my job to help other people
day in and day out.
And I'm struggling.
And I know I am not the only
one in this position.
Healthcare providers in this country are struggling.
I know we have so many allies all
over the world and we appreciate it so
immensely.
And there are so many things that I
wish we could take a page from you
right now, because in this country, we are
going sideways so fast.
And many of us do not know what
to do to stop it.
Thank you for listening.
I needed to get that off my chest.
Please go ahead and follow me on my
other platforms.
And then follow me on the subscribe button.
Give me a break.
Go figure.
And so the next day, the next day,
I watched Bill Maher on Friday.
11 days.
Oh, really?
There is something going on with the liberals
and the number of just 10 days, 11
days.
They're doing some sort of a countdown or
they're...
But this 10 day clips, those are only
two dozen clips I could have used.
Most of them are dumb, but it's always
this 10 days.
Oh, 10 days, it's 10 days, it's 10
days.
So there's something going on.
I think there is.
It's all empathy, which the number one thing
I noticed, it's like to see Selena Gomez
crying because their own media favorites have sighed
up them into believing that the Trump storm
troopers are kicking down doors to schools and
churches and rousting brown people, which is not
true.
It's only 200 more than Biden was deporting
every single day.
It's just, it's a bigger show for sure.
And the border is secured for sure.
They have a bit of a skewed view
on reality, but on the other side-
Of course, what a pathetic presentation.
She had to take it down and she's
got nothing but grief because everyone recorded it
and they're replaying it.
Oh, did you see the White House even
did some kind of funny video with her?
No.
Yeah, of course.
But then on the other side, the jubilance
and the enthusiasm and the optimism from, I'm
speaking about from the Fredericksburg circle is great,
everyone's excited.
They're not even stomping that much on people.
They just walk around like, this is good.
There's a new sheriff in town, things are
changing.
And boy, are they.
I mean, the amount of cleaning up, and
of course it's just the beginning and it's
not, as many of our producers point out,
the middle management issues, the bad systems, they're
still in place.
But you look at like Kash Patel, what
he will be able to do.
And I mean, this is all marketing, of
course.
So Elon, who is the PR guy for
Doge, because he knows that's all he does.
And Trump is using him perfectly for that.
He's posting stuff like, Joe, just 10 days.
He didn't say that, but he could have.
We found that the Pentagon spends $600 million
a year on sushi.
I believe it.
I believe it too.
The Air Force pays $1,280 for paper
cups.
And the IRS spends $230,000 a month
on Starbucks cinnamon roast K-cups.
This is the kind of stuff that people
despise.
And so they love it when this all
comes out.
And it's small, it's very small.
Yeah, but it adds up.
Of course it does.
And then it's like, hey, Elon, I got
another one for you.
Go get the astronauts.
Okay, I'll go save the astronauts, boss.
No problem, which I think is funny.
You know, posting that the Treasury, the Secretary
of the Treasury would just, would never deny
a payment, just pay anything, even if it
was to corrupt criminal gangs and cartels and
God knows what else.
I actually have a somewhat longish Psaki clip
of her lamenting the hostile takeover.
On another piece of breaking news tonight here
in the nation's capital, where the Trump administration
has conducted an unprecedented purge at the top
levels of the FBI.
Unprecedented purge.
I'm glad you got this.
Administration officials have forced out all six of
the FBI's most senior executives and multiple heads
of various FBI field offices across the country,
according to current and former FBI officials who
spoke with NBC News.
This hostile takeover of federal law enforcement, there's
no other way to call it, included the
high profile leader of the Washington DC field
office, which was involved in the prosecutions of
President Donald Trump.
Superintendent of Justice also fired multiple federal prosecutors
who conducted the criminal investigation of January 6th
rioters, according to sources.
And just to take a moment, a step
back, I know there's a lot of news
you are consuming right now, but these are
officials, these are not political officials.
These are career law enforcement officials.
Most of whom, all of whom have worked
under multiple Democratic and Republican administrations.
They are not political appointees.
Many do not even work in the FBI's
Washington headquarters.
Like Spencer Evans, he was a special agent
in charge of the Bureau's Las Vegas field
office.
In a note obtained by NBC News, Evans
writes, I was informed by FBI headquarters today
that the executive leadership at the Department of
Justice plans to dismiss me from the roles
of the FBI, along with several other FBI
executives, as soon as Monday morning.
I was given no rationale for this decision,
which, as you might imagine, has come as
a shock.
Shock.
These firings are potentially devastating to the nation's
ability to fight terrorism and corruption, investigate crime
across the country.
That's what the FBI does.
But they are also not just about law
enforcement officials in Washington.
They are no doubt going to have an
impact on the local communities they serve as
well.
We're gonna be learning more about that, I'm
certain, in the days ahead.
And it's leaving a lot of these local
FBI field offices across the country in a
huge lurch.
Lurch!
Now, at the same time that Trump is
purging the Bureau's ranks, multiple sources tell NBC
News that the Office of the Acting Deputy
Attorney General, former Trump defense attorney Emil Bovee,
has asked the FBI for a list of
employees involved in January 6th cases.
Now, that could include case managers, technical workers,
intelligence analysts, workers in almost basically every single
field office the FBI has.
As one former Bureau official told NBC News,
this is a really, really big list.
Yeah, really.
Yeah, really, really big.
What is this thing where she goes off,
she goes off script and goes on and
on about this Spencer Evans guy?
The only one she names by name, is
she fucking the guy?
I mean, there's something screwy about this.
Maybe.
I'm sorry.
That may be her sources familiar with the
matter.
You don't know.
You don't know, it's possible.
Names of all FBI personnel involved in January
6th investigations and prosecutions must be submitted to
the Attorney General's office.
FBI cell phones have been confiscated.
Many can no longer access email.
Six of the seven executive assistant directors and
25 of the 56 special agents in charge
have already been fired.
Well, this is kind of what we wanted.
Yeah, this is exactly what we wanted.
And the funny thing about this is not
mentioned, this is without Kash Patel.
Yeah, this is just happening.
This is just happening.
This is no, where's Kash Patel?
He got in there.
Maybe they're getting, it looks like they're cleaning
house before he arrives.
Yeah.
Do you think that they'll all get through
with the threat of, with the threat of
primaring different senators who vote against it, the
threat from Shanahan and others?
Do you think that they'll- Shanahan's threat's
a pretty major one.
Yeah, do you think that they'll all be
confirmed?
Tulsi, I've said this since the get-go,
is that I think that it's gonna be
like Hegseth.
You know, Hegseth barely got through.
I think Kennedy's gonna be the same way.
He's gonna barely get through.
He's surprised at the pushback he's getting.
And I do have the one clip with
him and Bernie, which is a classic.
And Kash Patel's gonna get in, I think,
easily.
But I think Tulsi's the one that they
really have a problem with.
Well, there's a lot of pictures of things
in people's mouths that may weigh more heavily
than being primaried.
Could be.
There's a lot of blackmail that's running the
country.
Yeah, yeah.
No doubt about that.
And do we know who the backup is?
Who's the backup for Tulsi?
Do we have any idea?
No, they've done a good job of keeping
that from us.
We don't know the backup for Kennedy either.
But the backup for Tulsi's gonna be some
kick-ass, I'm sure, that it's gonna be
worse for the intelligence community.
I mean, there may be some thought that
the intelligence community says, well, you know, at
least she is a soldier.
Maybe we can manipulate her.
She doesn't have that much.
She's kind of clueless about how the government
works at that level.
And maybe, you know, she might get in
that way.
Here's Rachel Maddow, who still no one is
watching, even though she was brought back to
do the first 100 days.
Yeah, she's on every night now, and unwatchable.
Yes.
The Washington Post reports tonight that FBI supervisors
advised agents that any agents who worked on
either of those two cases, the Jack Smith
cases, FBI supervisors reportedly advised agents that they
should be prepared for the Trump administration to
release to the public the names of the
FBI agents who worked on those cases.
Before they were then, they would then be
fired on Monday.
So rather than just firing them, they were
basically going to tell, you know, Trump supporters,
including those who were just let out of
prison by Donald Trump, tell them, hey, here's
the names of FBI agents who were part
of all the January 6th investigations, the ones
that targeted Trump.
Don't worry, though, they're no longer agents.
We're firing them today, so go ahead and
have at them.
Have at them, yeah, mega.
Now, tonight.
Yeah, mega.
Nobody said that.
Mega, have at them, mega.
You know, I'd like you to pay attention.
Do you ever see any of your TikTok
people, and, you know, your algorithm is fine
-tuned, do you ever see any of them
referencing Rachel Maddow or Psaki or any of
these?
No, never.
Any of these, never, right?
Never.
Which I find peculiar now that you mentioned
it, because there are the similar talking points,
only more emotional.
No, I don't think anybody watches those shows,
even including the left.
I mean, they have a dedicated audience, obviously,
of some sort of number.
Not much, not much.
It's under a million, probably.
Not much, not much.
Probably around the same number of people that
listen to us.
Oh, so.
Only kind of the dumber quotient.
We have the smart group, and they have
the.
I have an update.
It looks like 25% on all products
from Canada and Mexico, but only 10%
on energy products.
Yeah, that was mentioned in the report we
played.
Okay, okay.
Demi's gas might go up, maybe.
You know, our people here still aren't drilling
more.
That, I think the 10% of the
gas and oil is because Trump really wants
to stay in the good graces of those
people in Alberta.
You got to keep it between 68 and
$78.
You can't go too high, too low.
Got to keep it in that range.
Everyone's happy then.
Then the final clip, we've got to take
a break here, is from the former president
of Kenya, which I thought was just fantastic.
Let's make sure we play the Somalia clip
before.
I mean, before we finish.
Cool, let's play the Somalia clip first, then.
That's the nicest clip.
This is just a clip that we both
observed.
Nobody's talking about this, and why?
President Trump ordered the first military strikes of
his second term.
Mr. Trump announced the military action in Somalia
on his social media platform.
He said the strikes targeted a senior ISIS
planner, attack planner, and other terrorists.
The Pentagon said the strikes were coordinated with
Somalia and that there were no civilian casualties.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Not one civilian casualty somehow.
It was in the cave.
They smoked him out of the cave.
Here's the former president of Kenya.
People the other day crying.
Oh, I don't know.
Trump has removed money.
He said he's not giving us any more
money.
Why are you crying?
It's not your government.
It's not your country.
Why are you crying?
He has no reason to give you anything.
I mean, you don't pay taxes in America.
He's appealing to his people.
This is a wake-up call for you
to say, okay, what are we going to
do to help ourselves?
Instead of crying.
Yes, don't cry.
To you, what are we going to do?
What are we going to do?
What?
To support ourselves, because nobody is going to
give us anything.
We are going to continue holding out a
hand there to give you.
It is time for us to use our
resources for the right things.
We are the ones who are using them
for the wrong things.
This is the attitude we want.
And that is the attitude you want.
That guy's got something going on.
And then finally, a good fun Africa clip.
Thank you, President Trump.
This is good.
We've got Africa news.
Gotta love it.
Yeah.
And yes.
There goes the audience.
No, it was, everyone loved that.
Everyone loved the guy.
Why are you crying?
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the sea in the crying.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Yeah, and good morning to you, Mr. Adam
Carey.
In the morning, ships and sea boots to
the ground, feet in the air, subs in
the water, and the dames and knights out
there.
Hello there, to all the folks on the
west coast.
Hello there, California.
It's crazy.
We have so many trolls.
2671.
It's good.
We're consistently about 10% higher than is
the norm.
Well, the norm is 24 for a Sunday.
Right.
So that's more than 10%.
No, no, it's 24, 22, 25, yeah.
Thank you.
Right.
Thank you.
No college.
No college debris over here.
No college debris.
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You know, Apple is removing episodes in China.
Did I tell you about that?
No.
Yeah, the Chinese Apple app, there will be
just episodes missing from like the Joe Rogan
podcast and others, just missing altogether.
Just pull them out.
Ah, we don't like what you said.
Why does Joe Rogan say that's offensive to
China?
I don't know.
Don't trust China.
Maybe, I'm not sure.
Don't trust China.
Donald Trump, don't trust China.
China's asshole.
Oh, anyway, unlike NPR, we just started off
poor and remain relatively poor.
Yep.
Which is just, it is what it is,
but we do this as a public service.
We love doing it.
We wouldn't be doing it for 18 years
if we didn't love it.
And we're going to make it an even
21.
We're in the final four years of the
show.
So enjoy it while you can.
Of course, it could always end earlier, depending
on how it goes.
So we run it on the value for
value model.
We don't have to horse around with sneaky
little tricky bits.
You know, if you want to say something,
we'll read your note.
And in fact, if you donate $200 or
above, we will read your note.
And we also give you a title, Associate
Executive Producer for this episode, which is a
real Hollywood credit.
You can use it anywhere they're recognized, imdb
.com.
Go ahead and take a look.
There are thousands now, or probably not thousands,
but well over a thousand.
$300 or above, Executive Producer.
And that's the title you'll get.
And we'll read your note.
So that's the workaround for everybody who has
something to promote.
Like, I don't know, coffee.
And we also accept other forms of value
for value, time, talent, and treasure.
And the talent and also time often comes
in the form of our artists who create
artwork for us.
So just to stop you, so I'm at
the meetup and I guess it's a known
fact by everybody but me that Roger Roundy
is Edgar the Puppet?
Yeah, everyone knows this.
Yeah.
How come I don't know it?
I was actually stunned because I was-
I know why, because you're not on Mastodon,
you're on TikTok looking at pink hair.
It's your own fault.
It's an amazing product.
It's a very good product.
It was very, very no agenda.
It's also, it's kind of- Well, it's
a very no agenda, but it's also very
Triumph the Comic Book Dog, the insult comic
dog, only funnier.
Yes, exactly.
Which I was kind of surprised by.
I did go back and forth with Roundy
on this and he thinks that he's-
I think he saw it as an opportunity
because Triumph the insult comic dog has been
going out in public and doing these videos.
But he's woke.
Oh, really?
But wasn't Triumph, what's his face?
Conan?
Is Conan?
No, no, no.
No, he's never Conan.
He was this other guy.
In my blog from about 10 years ago,
I had got, there was a picture of
the guy.
I forgot his name, but he's, no, it's
not Conan.
Conan had him on the show all the
time, but it wasn't Conan or Conan's Bit.
Oh, okay.
And that guy, and so the insult comic
dog is woke?
That's the opposite.
That's exactly the opposite.
The whole point was that that dog was
offensive.
Yeah, to poop on.
For me to poop on.
Is that still the dog's punchline?
No, I noticed it last couple of times.
I saw him on the videos.
He never said to poop on.
Well, then it's no good.
The dog was only good when his punchline
was to poop on.
That was perfect.
Ah, what a waste.
What a waste.
Yeah, so Roundly doesn't do art anymore, but
that's okay because we have lots of artists
and prompt jockeys and donors and special interests
and everybody chips in and helps out for
as long as AI will work, as entropy
is sure to set in soon.
It may even be starting.
That's just my hope.
Yeah, that, no, it's your wish.
It's your dream.
It's a prayer.
Believe me, it's a prayer.
Yeah, you're ahead of your time.
Always, look at me, invented podcasting.
Who's rich?
Joe Rogan.
I mean, it says it right there, doesn't
it?
Mega Kelly.
We want to thank Blue Acorn who did
the artwork for episode 1734.
The title of that was Mega.
That was based on Make Europe Great Again.
Sir Brian of London sent me a picture
of a whole bunch of red hats as
Mega is now being used in the UK
as Make England Great Again.
Yes, I heard this too.
Which is interesting.
And I wouldn't mind having one of those
hats.
That's pretty fun to have.
Now when we, go ahead.
Well, that reminds me, where's my sheet?
You got it.
A couple of things I got to bring
out.
I got my sheet.
Can I finish that?
No, this is about the show.
Well, but this is for art.
We want to finish the art.
No, this is about the donations.
Okay.
We can do the art and then I
got to make these complaints.
Yes, of course.
You make all the complaints you want.
What else is new?
It's the show.
That's what we do.
Now, when we saw this from Blue Acorn,
it was the cow egg.
We had talked about cow eggs on the
show.
It was cute.
Even had a little AI brand mark there
on the cow, which was fun.
What was really cool is when we went
to get the link for Blue Acorn to
put in the show notes, we give our
artists credit.
It said artists for six minutes.
And we didn't realize that that counter is
real time.
So when we went back, it says artists
for seven minutes.
So this is, that's a feature of noagendaartgenerator
.com.
I never did know about.
Yeah, we never knew about it.
I never realized that it would actually.
He is one of the, I think the
third guy in the history of the show,
I believe he's the third, who hit it
on his first art donation.
Yes.
Yeah.
One shot.
Nailed it, nailed it.
Yeah.
He'll never get in again.
Never again.
Your career is over.
Let's take a look.
Now, a piece that came in afterwards, I
used for the newsletter, which came in after
we already closed our thing, which is a
late piece from Huda Thunket.
A good, it was a very good piece
of art.
Huda Thunket was a Chinese guy, an Asian,
vague Asian guy, who looks more like a
Singaporean actually to me.
Clubbing a fish.
Beating the crap out of a fish.
With best price.
Best price on his apron.
Best price on his chest.
Very humorous.
Yes.
Terrific piece.
Yes.
It might've made it.
It might've beat the cow away.
It could've beaten the cow if it had
come in earlier, yeah.
Very close to beating it.
I kind of like Nessworks' Can You Read
Clock?
Didn't quite have it.
Darren O'Neill did a Runway 33.
We both felt that was a little too
early.
Too soon.
Yes, it's a good piece though.
Pretty piece.
Now the farmer's wife kids came in with
two pieces.
One was a cow with an egg, but
the one which was titled White House Media
Podcasters was this kind of an awesome picture
of a Mexican with a sombrero and a
microphone.
And it said White House Media.
And what are you teaching them over there,
farmer's wife?
I don't know what this, we both were
completely baffled by this, whatever the kids drew
here.
Why are they thinking there's a guy in
the White House with a sombrero of all
things, which is like verboten now to even
discuss.
It was actually well put together.
I mean, those- Yeah, we were almost
gonna pick it.
It was close.
I will say it was, kids, well done.
Close, keep it up.
We encourage this.
We encourage the art you're doing.
There's clearly some soul in these kids.
Clearly, it was very enjoyable.
Honorary mention for Gun Monkey with the, what
I think the intent here was it to
be the Senate confirmation hearings with all of
the senators with their heads as pills like
they're owned by Big Pharma.
But it missed some essential.
It didn't really even look like, it didn't
look like the Senate.
We know what you were trying to do,
but it didn't quite make it there.
Then of course- No, it wasn't gonna
cut it.
Then of course, everybody tried to do a
onesie.
I wouldn't mind having a No Agenda, No
Problem onesie with Curry Dvorak, adult size.
I'd wear that to bed.
You heard him.
Yeah, you heard me.
Then there was the requisite Pocahontas, which is
like, no, I'm not gonna use that.
I think that was it.
I'd say- Well, you did like the
other cow egg, mainly the one from Dame
Kenny, Ben, with the cow in the carton.
Yeah, it was cute, it was cute.
Yeah, you liked that.
Yeah, I did think it was cute.
It was all very close.
It was a close call for everybody, but
the most baffling yet somehow curiously funny was
the farmer's wife's kids with the Mexican-
With the sombrero guy.
With the sombrero at the fight.
It could have been when you were, I
mean, now that I think about it, you
did a bit.
Did I do a Mexican bit?
You did a Mexican bit with the ocho,
ocho, ocho, and you had the- Security
X, security X, ocho, ocho, ocho.
But you had it all with the echo,
like the old Mexican radio, AM radio.
Yeah, yeah, and go back and listen.
I'm not gonna do that every single time.
That's only for special occasions.
So that it got through to the kids.
Interesting, the stuff kids like.
That has to be what it was.
I can't think of anything else.
Well, thank you very much, Blue Acorn.
Blue Acorn, yeah, Blue Acorn for your submission.
We appreciate that.
And of course, many of these pieces of
art can be found in the chapter art
on the Modern Podcast app.
It's well worth taking a look.
A lot of people are using those apps
now and enjoying it.
So please continue to enjoy.
We always thank everybody who donates $50 or
above.
And now we'll get to the previously mentioned
executive producers.
We kick it off- But before we
do that- You got some things to
say?
Yes.
Okay.
There's been a lot of donation, regular donation.
This is the 1st of January.
All throughout January, a lot of regular donors
that have their recurring donations have been canceled.
Canceled?
Yeah, because this is the time credit cards
sometimes get swapped out.
Expire.
People should check if they think they're still
subscribing to the show through one of the
programs, $33 a month or $5 even.
But a lot of people still have $4.
Yeah, there's still some $4, but those are
usually $4 a week.
And the 1111s, which goes back six, seven
years, because that was the 11th episode, wasn't
it?
1111?
I'm not mistaken.
I don't know what, the 1111 came up
as some lucky number that we got on
to.
Please check.
So check on that, because there's too many.
It's hurting the show.
And the second thing is I noticed that
every time after the football season, I usually,
I hate to be like a scrounger.
What, what's so funny?
But I have not seen a hoodie or
a sweatshirt from Ohio State or Montana, the
winners of the various championships or even the
Division II school, because I'm wearing one of
those.
I wore it to the meetup.
Yes.
One of the ones for the Bisons, Harding
State, I think is the name.
And I usually get one.
And I got one from Michigan.
I got stuff from Michigan last year, but
Ohio State people, I don't know what, there's
a huge school.
There should be somebody that listens to the
show that could send me a championship sweatshirt
or a championship hoodie.
I don't know why I haven't gotten that.
So what you're saying is.
When I used to do Leo's show, twit,
and I'd make mention of this, I would
get a ton of stuff.
I don't know what the deal is.
So not that I'm complaining or trying to
be a scrounger and getting free clothes.
No, see, this is why I was laughing
because of course you're doing that.
I am?
Yeah, you want free clothes.
When's the last time you- So I
also want to mention that for the Albany
meetup, I included where the executive producers' donations,
but the ones below $200 are going to
be on the next show, except for one,
which I've gotten for this show, which is
a note I wanted to read because it's
so funny.
Okay, all right.
So they're not even on the spreadsheet?
They're all going to be next?
No, the executive and associate executive producers are,
there's only three or four of them.
But the rest of them are going to
be next show.
And I had a great, and everyone at
the meetup, I do have a photo, one
of the guys, Richie Rich.
I saw the photo.
Well, that photo's misleading because his hair, it
looks like he looks like a spook there
because that hair is gray in that photo.
Hold on, let me take a look.
The Richie Rich photo.
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at it.
He wanted to call you out.
He made a big fuss about this and
he kept grabbing me and telling me, I
have to tell you this.
What?
He's a year older than you and he's
got better hair.
And to be honest about it, that hair
picture was very strange because that's a white
balance problem.
His hair is straw gold.
It's gorgeous.
This is the, this is the guy.
I mean it sincerely.
This is the guy with his arms folded
in the picture?
No, this is the guy, this is a
picture that came in separately.
I sent it to you separately under Richie
Rich photo.
And this is the ones where Steve, Crazy
Steve is actually photo bombing, unwittingly photo bombing
this shot.
But this guy's hair.
Yeah, that's the same guy.
It's the same guy in the other picture.
Oh yeah.
Okay, well he's got, he's, it's so gray
in these pictures, I'm just thinking that's not
what his hair color is.
Believe me.
Wait a minute, so let me just understand.
He comes up to you and says, tell
Curry my hair is better than his.
Is that what it was?
Yep.
He's a dude named Ben from North Carolina.
How he got to the meetup is beyond
me.
He had to make it to give you
this important message.
He was very adamant about it.
Yeah, well, yeah, his hair is beautiful.
You're a beautiful man.
What can I say?
It's true.
It's a very beautiful man.
Anyone were from the meetup or is that,
is that the whole report?
Yeah, well no, I met a guy, a
guy and his sister came up.
She was from Dallas and he was from
Burbank.
Hey, wanna meet my sister?
Is that what he said?
No, but I was glad to meet her.
She was an art, an international art dealer.
So that was kind of cool.
But he was more interesting because, although she
was interesting, he was interesting because he had
worked for Steve Breitbart during, when he was
alive.
Andrew Breitbart.
Andrew, I'm sorry.
When I think Steve.
Barron.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, Andrew Breitbart when he was alive and
he and his sister, Ariana, they both think
he was murdered.
And I think so too.
Yeah, well, I think that's our consensus as
well.
And then he went to work for Project
Veritas.
Oh, interesting.
So he knows a bunch of that stuff.
And now he's writing screenplays, which I'm gonna.
So he's a spy and she's a money
launderer.
Nice group.
It's funny you say that because his screenplays
are both about spooks.
Uh-huh, mm-hmm, yeah.
Well, this is what happens.
This is why you need to go to
a No Agenda meetup.
They are awesome.
I gave the two of them the lineup
and she kind of warmed up to this
too.
The lineup of watching certain shows that are
spook shows that you and I both enjoy.
Oh, and then the British Angle?
Well, no, not the British Angle.
I'm talking about the classics.
Rubicon has to be viewed.
Berlin Station.
Berlin Station is another one.
The ones that actually give you a little
tidbits of what's going on.
Yeah, a little bit of the real stuff,
of the good stuff.
All right.
No, it was great.
Everybody was, it was all nights.
Everybody had the place.
It was nights.
The regulars, a lot of regulars I was
expecting to see I didn't see.
It was a very strange meetup.
Were there any kids?
No, it was at a bar.
Oh, okay.
I thought this.
The next meetup will be.
Oh, the next, okay.
Well, as I said, Chicago also had a
meetup.
A lot of people, a lot of nights.
This was a good meetup weekend.
I guess so.
So we will thank Hayes, who comes in
with a cool 1000 to save the day.
And he asked for a de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
And he says, thank you for your courage.
I appreciate all that you both put into
the show.
Hayes, and he is at jvgcoffeemechanics.com.
Not sure exactly what that is.
And he doesn't ask for a nighting or
anything.
So if you want to be nighted, let
us know.
We'll gladly take care of that.
And thank you very much.
It's highly appreciated.
JVG Coffee Mechanics, huh?
Marvin McDonald comes up from Clarksville, Arkansas, 333
.33. He says, thanks for all you do.
I'd like a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
And he wants some goat karma.
All right, we got it for you.
You've got.
Karma.
Then we have Sir Lawrence of Dystopia from
Oakland, California, 333.33. And I can hear
you have his note.
Yes, I do.
So he dropped off at 333.33. Local,
oh man, I have to get my other
reading glasses to read this note.
While listening to Mark Stevens, Jr., My Family
Thinks I'm Crazy podcast.
My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast.
I don't know if you've heard of it.
When he was a guest on no less
than two different podcasts, Republican Death Squad, okay,
I'm gonna have to read this note later
and get my other glasses because the contrast
is just too low.
It's like he typed it.
Well, I'll do this next one and then
you go, then you go and get your
glasses.
And I'll do James DuPont from Ewing, New
Jersey, 333.
He says, forgive me for being a major
douchebag.
He says, I've sent Adam 1984 via Get
Albie.
This should take me with my older donations
to Night of Soul Fun Meme, Soul Fun
Meme.
And he has soulfunmeme.com.
What is soulfunmeme.com?
Let me take a look at this.
Is that some kind of a Solana thing?
Let me see, soulfunmeme.com or meme, soulfunmeme?
So what is this?
Soulfunmeme, soulfunmeme.com, here we go.
I have no idea.
Oh, crafted for launching private personal AI startup,
software as a service and business AI agents.
All right, there you go.
And so the back office has approved this.
So you will be knighted, James DuPont, and
thank you very much.
Okay, now I'm gonna read a note.
We'll listen to Mark Stevens, Jr. of my
Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast when he was
a guest on no less than two different
podcasts, Nephilim Death Squad, episode 105, and Biocharisma
podcast.
By the way, I noticed this, that these
people that are at the last meetup, they're
all a bunch of podcast addicts.
You know, they're addicted.
And in fact, they were grilling me about,
do you ever listen to anybody else's podcast?
And he goes on, he says, he stated
how he feels hope that if his aunt
is listening to no agenda, this guy, this
Mark Stevens, then there is hope for sanity
and awareness, amen.
Okay.
No agenda gives me a feeling that I
haven't felt since I used to stay up
and watch The Daily Show with Craig Kilburn,
wow.
That's like before I was born.
For reference, it's that same feeling you get
when you just blew up the Death Star.
There's a, there's a, wow, that's an interesting
comment.
Nice.
In honor of my wife's excellent mac and
cheese, may I get a mac and cheese,
screw your freedoms, and donate, this is the
three things he wants, and I'll continue reading,
you can dig those up, mac and cheese,
screw your freedom, and donate.
In close, please find a token of gratitude
for all that you do.
Thanks for your courage, and ask me about
my latest gun purchase.
Adios, mofos, Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, and he's
in Oakland.
It was, he's also killer, Oscar six, I
echo Juliet Echo, so he's a ham, too.
Nice.
Mac and cheese, freedom, and donate?
Yeah.
That was the three?
Okay.
Oh, well, excellent.
♪ Living the mac and cheese life ♪
Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
By the way, today is Ayn Rand's 120th
birthday.
Freedom!
Oops, wrong one.
You've got.
Donate, donate, donate.
Karma.
Screw your freedom.
There we go, I got it in.
All right.
Yeah, Ayn Rand would have been 120.
Nelson Ariza is in Lawrenceville, Georgia, 333.
He says, I appreciate you guys.
Well, thank you, we appreciate you.
Please give me Trump's, Trump jobs, karma, and
I love my truck.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
You've got karma.
I love my truck, and I love my
truck.
I love what I do.
Nice.
Nathan Hallgren in Rockford, Illinois, 300, no note,
no nothing, so he gets a double up
karma.
You've got.
Karma.
And the same for Sir Robert Montoya, Pleasant
Hill, California, $300, no note, so that also
gives him a double up karma.
You've got.
Karma.
And now we have Little John's Candies.
Ah, yes, this is an interesting situation.
Little John's Candy, this is Christopher, and now
he brought with him either his wife, or
his girlfriend, or his sister.
I can't remember.
Maybe his mom, could have been his mom.
No, it was, no, it was, no, definitely
not his mom.
Okay.
And I can't remember her name, but he
wrote it down in this check, but he
scribbled it, it was Mackie.
Oh my God, I want some of these.
So this is donations from Bay Area Little
John's Candies in Somerset, California, and I talked
to her for a minute, and they're living
up in Fiddletown, I believe, which is in
the Volcano area of California.
And I didn't get to talk to her
enough.
ITM gentleman, he writes, as a San Francisco
refugee and business owner, thank you for keeping
me sane.
I was hit in the mouth by my
smoking hot wife, really smoking hot, but it
must be the one who was right.
Now we know who it was.
Yeah, during our refugee journey to the, yeah,
that's got it, she was, okay, there's his
wife.
Realm of the Sierra foothills.
We listened while driving back and forth from
San Francisco to Fiddletown as we moved our
100-year-old candy business, Little John's, away
from the poop and the needles.
They're 100 years old, they look great.
1924.
Look great for their age.
Well, the candy's 1924.
Now we listen while making candy the old
-fashioned way.
Little John's Candies, handcrafts, world-famous, English toffee,
it's quite good, by the way, because he
brought a sample pack for everybody.
I'm looking at the website, littlejohnscandies.com.
I would love to try some chocolate-covered
molasses chips.
That looks good.
Woo!
You can ask Adam for his address, you
can send him some.
Yes, I'd love that.
English toffee and fine candies, using the recipes
from the 20s, 30s, and 40s.
These are old recipes.
Old school.
So for a sweet treat for your smokin'
hot wife, go to littlejohnscandies.com and use
code ITM10 for 10% off your purchase.
There you go, another advertisement posing as a
note.
The mushroom.
Thank you for all the producers of the
best podcast in the universe.
Then he's got, this is hand-type, too.
Traded in my San Francisco needles and poop
for pine needles and deer poop.
Christopher.
Marshmallow delights.
Wow.
Whatever happened to the No Agenda fudge people?
I'm out.
No, well, he said.
I'm out.
It was a promotion until Christmas.
Yeah, the fudge is done.
You're gonna have to wait a year.
I'm out.
I'm out of fudge.
And I love my drug.
Alex Rickman, or Reichman.
I think Rickman, maybe.
Parts Unknown, $210.60. Drunk donation.
Cheers to another four years of the show.
No, it's the final four years.
Can I get a Trains Good, Planes Bad
jingle in light of recent events?
These planes be droppin' from the sky.
All aboard.
Trains Good, Planes Bad.
Woo-hoo!
Here we go, Eli the Coffee Guy in
Bensonville, Illinois.
$202.02. I had a great time at
the Chicago meetup.
I finally saw a picture of Eli.
Nothing like you'd expect him to look like.
What does he look like?
No, I'm not gonna tell you.
Maybe he wants to be incognito.
What do you think he looks like?
He looks like a middle-aged, dark-haired,
probably about 5'11 to 6'1, medium
build, mustachioed maybe.
I don't know.
He's like a big guy, Latin guy.
Oh, he's a big Latin guy.
Yeah, he's a big Latin guy, the way
I saw it.
Could be an eskimo for all I know.
Maybe it's a white balance issue.
Maybe.
There are lots of very fine people on
both sides of the bar.
The turnout was good, and even had a
knight and dame from Fort Wayne come out.
Some saw old friends and made some new
ones.
Thank you, Adam and John, for helping create
this community.
We didn't raffle the coffee, no tickets.
However, everyone left a winner with some samples.
Good, good, smart, smart.
Yeah, this is good for about two cups.
For producers feeling left out of the fun,
just visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code
ITM20 for 20% off your order.
It's like a meetup in a cup.
He's writing ad copy now.
Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy.
A meetup in a cup.
And from Eli, we go to Linda Lou
Patkin from Lakewood, Colorado with $200.
She does it every single show, and we
appreciate that so much.
She asks simply for jobs, Karma, and says
for a winning resume and a faster job
search, go to imagemakersinc.com.
That's imagemakersinc with a K.
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs
and writer of resumes, your go-to for
all your executive resume and job search needs.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You got it, Karma.
And last on our list here is Charles
Neal.
Charles Neal in Austin, right around the corner.
200 bucks.
Hey guys, since I forgot to do this
with my first donation, please de-douche me.
That's the great word.
You've been de-douched.
And that's it for our executive and associate
executive producers for episode 1,735.
Get them in now, kids, while it's still
good, while they're still good.
Less than four more years.
That's how much longer we're gonna be here.
And even 21 sounds like a good number
to me.
Who knows what we'll do after that.
And thank you, of course, to everyone under
$50 and above and under $50.
We'll be thanking those people, not the under
50s, but the 50 and above in our
second segment.
And you can always go to knowagendadonations.com
and you can set yourself up with a
recurring donation.
If you thought you had one, check it
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I want to start off a little light
here with a prescient clip.
This is one of the clips that's been
floating around the last couple of days from
the Simpsons.
The Simpsons who seem to predict everything back,
you know, 20 years ago.
The show's been on forever.
Have you seen this one?
I don't know.
Sideshow Bob?
Yeah, we're going to take a listen.
I'll be back.
You can't keep the Democrats out of the
White House forever.
And when they get in, I'm back on
the streets with all of my friends.
All my criminal buddies.
Boom!
Again, predicting reality is amazing what those Simpsons
can do.
It's amazing.
You know, you look at this.
What?
Yeah, that is interesting.
Oh, probably should play this just as a
little update as the winning continues.
President Trump has had some serious conversations with
Russia about Ukraine.
U.S. President Donald Trump has said his
administration has had very serious discussions with Russia
about the war in Ukraine.
Trump said that he and Russian President Vladimir
Putin could soon take significant action towards ending
the three-year conflict.
Trump didn't say who from his administration has
been in contact with Moscow, but insisted the
two sides were already talking.
Trump has said repeatedly he wouldn't have allowed
the conflict to start if he'd been in
office in 2022.
Since returning to office, Trump has criticized Ukrainian
President Volodymyr Zelensky saying he should have made
a deal with Putin to avoid the conflict.
He also criticized Joe Biden's administration for spending
billions in U.S. taxpayer money on military
and economic aid for Kyiv.
Ukraine currently relies on the U.S. for
around 40% of its military needs, and
since February 2022, Washington has sent Kyiv more
than 62 billion euros.
There's a lot going on in Germany right
now, but I don't know if you've been
following that.
So the German, well, listen to this report
and then I'll give you some background and
detail on it.
Shortly before Germany's election, lawmakers debated the possible
ban of the far-right AFD party.
The path to a legal exclusion, however, is
long.
On Thursday, MPs discussed the first step, examining
whether AFD is anti-constitutional.
The AFD is not a party, it's just
a little bit to the right.
They are enemies of the constitution.
They are enemies of our democracy.
They are enemies of mankind.
AFD didn't hold back.
We embody democracy in Germany, ladies and gentlemen.
We are for referendums, for the separation of
powers, for the rule of law for everyone.
The debate to ban the AFD was resumed
after Wednesday's motion for a stricter migration policy,
proposed by the leader of the Conservative Party
CDU, Friedrich Merz, and pushed through the Bundestag
with the help of the far-right.
In a rare intervention, Angela Merkel accused Merz
of breaking a pledge to not work with
the AFD.
I think it is wrong to no longer
feel bound by this proposal and thereby knowingly
allowed the AFD to gain a majority in
a vote in the German Bundestag on the
29th of January, 2025, for the first time.
The leader of the Conservatives tried to defuse
the tensions.
There is no cooperation between the CDU, CSU,
and the far-right, and the AFD can
now triumph as much as they want.
This will not happen.
I want us to solve the problems and
for this party to get smaller again, not
bigger.
But the controversial immigration vote sparked protests in
the largest German cities like Berlin, Munich, Dortmund,
and Leipzig for a second day in a
row.
So just because the immigrant, irregular migrant influx,
there was a bill or a law being
proposed to reduce the amount of immigrants that
can come in.
And believe me, the Germans are sick of
it.
They're just like everyone else in Europe.
They're sick of what's going on.
So instead of doing that, because it's a
very key policy of the far-right AFD,
they all voted against it.
Germany is committing suicide.
It's unbelievable what their ideology is doing to
their people and to the country.
It's just insane.
It's been going on forever.
This is a slow creep.
This is like political correctness in this country,
which evolved into the trans-Maoist movement, which
started in the late 70s and early 80s.
That's the first time I ever heard the
term political correctness was from one of the
Lib Jos, actually was a writer.
And it just starts eating away.
The Germans at the time, we're just talking
about political correctness, they were already all in
on no plastic packaging.
And when you went to Germany, paper straws.
Everything was already set in place.
And then when they got to the point
where they shut down their nukes, their nuclear
power, it was like, you've gone too far.
And this woman who runs the AFD, or
she's one of the co-chairs anyway, she's
Alice Wiedel, she is a sweetheart.
I don't see where this idea that they're
all, this sounds like the Trump thing.
Trump, anti-democratic again, I mean, you're not
gonna vote again kind of thing.
It's outrageous.
And the Germans politicians are out of control.
They're controlled by the globalists.
They're shot.
But I mean, well, the Germans are just
too polite.
They're too kind.
You know, like, yeah, we can't really revolt.
I don't know what it is.
The same with the Dutch, by the way,
they're not gonna revolt.
They actually voted in the guy they wanted
and like, oh, what's happening?
Oh, not much, not much change.
And then they look across the ocean, look
at us.
They're like, wow, if only we could be
like that.
And- Yeah, it's a mystery to me.
I guess the same goes for the UK.
Same, you know.
UK's worse.
What was that?
What was I reading about the UK?
Let me see.
It was- They're not donating anymore either.
No, well, Tony Blair is now, it was
a big article in the Times.
Tony Blair, colon, bring in digital IDs to
get tough on populism.
How about that?
What do you wanna get tough on populism
for?
Tony Blair began the problem.
The former labor prime minister who backs identity
technology systems and facial recognition believes the public
will gladly sacrifice privacy for efficiency.
And- Yeah, you know what?
He may be right.
What efficiency are we talking about here that
everyone wants to sacrifice for?
Specifically, what efficiency?
The NHS?
What's going on in England that's trending toward
efficiency that's going to be helped along by
digital ID?
Just name one thing.
He suggests only, and only by fully harnessing
the power of artificial intelligence can ministers deliver
the improvements to public services that voters want
while also achieving the savings the treasury needs.
Quote, you've got to reorder the government around
this technology revolution.
You should be able- It costs more
money than it's worth.
Who is he kidding?
Everyone do the numbers on this stuff.
Oh, it's coming everywhere.
Denver is already lost.
For the vast majority of doctors, work doesn't
stop once they leave the office.
Daniel Korch is a physician and he's also
the Associate Chief Medical Information Officer at Denver
Health.
He's bothered by how many doctors are taking
their work home with them, something called pajama
time.
If you can imagine your doctor- Pajama
time!
After you see them going home, getting in
their pajamas, getting out their laptop, and just
typing away.
That's what so many of our providers have
done.
And we saw a significant reduction in pajama
time with providers who are using NABLA.
NABLA is the AI software company Denver Health
hired to help doctors take notes.
What?
Wait.
According to them, for every one hour-
What?
NAB- Nambla?
No, not, it's NABLA, not Nambla, NABLA.
I know what you're thinking.
No.
So we're using NABLA.
NABLA is the AI software company Denver Health
hired to help doctors take notes.
According to them, for every one hour seeing
patients, doctors typically spend two hours inputting notes
and insurance information.
Here's how it works.
Doctors meet with their patient and start the
program on their phone.
It listens, transcribes the audio, and organizes it
into a format that doctors are familiar with.
Later, it deletes the audio recording and transcription
so that the only thing that remains is
the summary, not their conversation, helping to protect
patient confidentiality.
Wow.
At the end of the encounter, it automatically
updates the patient record, write the clinical documentation,
take care of the claims, of the after
-visit summary for the patients.
Denver Health expected to save their doctors' time
with this new technology.
What they didn't see coming was how it
improved doctor-patient interactions.
They had better eye contact, they had better
emotional availability because they weren't typing.
And that's what's so exciting about it.
Our patients benefited from it, our providers benefited
from it.
More than 40% of doctors at Denver
Health have decided to use Nobla, less than
two months after its introduction.
I've never been part of an IT project
where people spontaneously gave me hugs.
They've given me hugs.
They've given me boxes of chocolate because they
really find it has improved their life.
Helping out doctors.
It makes it much easier for us to
have a very good team, very motivated, very
loyal.
So they can have more time to help
their patients.
Yeah.
Wow, what a crock.
Yeah, but it's not even, it's not artificial
intelligence, it's transcription, it's speech recognition.
We've been working on that since Dragon.
And it still doesn't work well.
Computer, period.
Remember Dragon?
Yeah, exactly.
Remember the Dragon's- Exclamation mark.
And you look at enough TikTok videos, you
see how many, they have the automatic titles
underneath.
So many mistakes.
90% right.
Yeah.
A 10% error rate- And there
you go.
Is non-trivial.
There you go.
That's exactly the problem with all of the
so-called artificial intelligence.
I do have a few clips from on
the media, from NPR, with a fellow artificial
intelligence denier, like myself.
This is the British guy.
Oh yeah, this guy's good.
Zintas or something.
He's good, he's good.
These models were always kind of going to
peter out because they'd run out of training
data, but also there's only so much you
can do with a probabilistic model.
They don't have thoughts.
They are probabilistic.
They guess the next thing coming and they're
pretty good at it.
But pretty good is actually nowhere near enough.
And when you think of what makes a
software boom, a software boom is usually based
on mass consumer adoption and mass enterprise level
adoption.
Now the enterprise referring to big companies of
like 10,000, 50,000, 100,000 people,
but down to like a thousand.
Nevertheless, financial services, healthcare, all of these industries,
they have very low tolerance for mistakes.
And if you make a mistake with your
AI, well, I'm not sure if you remember
what happened with Knight Capital.
That was with an algorithm.
They lost hundreds of millions of dollars and
destroyed themselves because of one little mistake.
We don't even know how these things fully
function, how they make their decisions, but we
do know they make mistakes because they don't
know anything.
They do not have knowledge.
They are not conscious, I get it.
No, no, no, no, not just not conscious.
They don't know anything.
ChatGPT does not know.
Even if you say, give me a list
of every American states and it gets it
right every time.
It's just pattern recognition.
Yes, it is effectively saying what is the
most likely answer to this?
It doesn't know what a state is.
It doesn't know what America is.
It doesn't know anything.
It is just remarkably accurate probability, but remarkably
accurate is nowhere near as accurate as we
would need it to be.
And as a result, there's only so much
they could have done with it.
Yes, or as he says.
Yeah, go ahead.
That guy's better than you.
The way Silicon Valley has classically worked is
you give a bunch of money to some
smart people and then money comes out the
end.
In the case of previous hype cycles that
work like cloud computing and smartphones, there were
very obvious places to go.
Jim Covello over at Goldman Sachs famously said
one of the responses to Generative AI was
to say, well, no one believed in the
smartphone, wrong.
There were thousands of presentations that led fairly
precisely to that.
So with the AI hype, it was a
big media storm.
And suddenly Microsoft's entire decision-making behind this
was they saw ChatGPT and went, God damn,
we need that in Bing.
Buy every GPU you can find.
And I'm telling the truth.
It is insane that multi-trillion dollar market
cap companies work like this.
Nevertheless, all of these companies, they went, well,
this is the next big thing.
Let's throw a bunch of money at it.
That's worked before.
Buying more, doing more, growing everything always works.
Silicon Valley over the years has leaned towards
just growth ideas.
What will grow?
What can we sell more of?
Except they've chased out all the real innovators.
And then of course he has some actual
data on the money.
I don't know if it's true, but.
They chased out all the real innovators is
the interesting comment there at the very end.
It's true.
Where did they go?
They went on to create podcasting and make
no money.
I know, it's unfair.
Okay, generative AI is incredibly unprofitable.
One dollar earned for every two and a
quarter spent?
Something like that?
Yeah, two bucks 35 from my last estimates.
Open AI's board last year said they needed
even more capital than they had imagined.
And the CEO, Sam Altman, recently said that
they're losing money on their plan to make
money, which is the chat GPT pro plan.
What is that?
So this is where the funny stuff happens.
Open AI's premium subscriptions make up about, it's
like 73% of their revenue.
The majority of their revenue does not come
from people actually using their models to do
stuff, which should tell you everything.
Because if most of their money doesn't come
from people using their very useful, allegedly, models,
well that means that they're either not charging
enough or they're not that useful.
I think Altman said he wasn't charging enough.
He isn't charging enough.
But their premium subscriptions have limits to the
amount that you can use them.
Well, their $200 a month chat GPT plus
subscription allows you to use their models as
much as you'd like, and they're still losing
money on them.
And the funny thing is the biggest selling
point is their reasoning models, O1 and O3.
O3, by the way, is their new thing
that is just throwing even more compute at
the problem.
It's yet to prove itself to actually be
any different other than just slightly better at
the benchmarks and also costing $1,000 for
10 minutes.
It's insane.
But the reason they're losing that is because
the way they've built their models is incredibly
inefficient.
And now that DeepSeek's come along, it's not
really obvious why anyone would pay for chat
GPT plus at all.
But the fact that they can't make money
on a 200 buck a month subscription, that's
the kind of thing that you should get
fired from a company for.
They should boot you out the door.
He's my new friend.
Last clip.
I guess so.
Last clip, this is rather...
I played this out of order, but-
Who is this guy again?
Zintas, hold on.
His name is Zitron, Ed Zitron.
You ever hear of him?
Ed Zitron?
No, it doesn't ring a bell, but-
Well, here he makes an assertion which only
you could really evaluate.
You said that AI in this country was
just throwing a lot of money at the
wall, seeing if some new idea would actually
emerge?
Are we talking about agents that can actually
do things for you?
Stop at agents for, this is the new
twist.
This is what Salesforce, oh, it's agentic AI,
it's agents.
You know what that is?
It's a cron job, okay?
It's a cron job that does something every
couple of minutes.
Cron job.
You know what a cron job is, don't
you?
Is it different than a con job?
Not far.
C-R-O-N, a cron job.
That's in a Linux system.
You can set up a cron job to
run every minute, every five minutes.
Oh, okay, yeah.
It's a cron job.
It's a cron job, yeah.
Based on the clock.
Yeah, it's a cron job.
In a predictable way, are we talking about
God?
What is the new idea that they were
hoping would emerge from throwing billions at this
project?
So Silicon Valley has not really had a
full depression.
We may think the dot-com bubble was
bad, but the dot-com bubble was they
discovered e-commerce and then ran it in
the worst way possible.
This is so different because if this had
not had the hype cycle it had, we
probably would have ended up with an American
deep-seek in five years.
What do you think about the concept that
Silicon Valley's never really had a depression?
That's not true.
They had one before the dot-com collapse,
I think it was 86.
There was a huge downturn that was just
outrageous.
And it was that that was propagated by
the collapse of the video game company that
was, they were making Atari games, this is
the Atari era, and they came out with
this product.
This one game company failed its IPO and
the whole economy of it crashed.
Yeah, I do remember that.
It was a huge crash.
I think it was as big as the
dot-com crash.
The dot-com bubble was a little different
because it came in with Y2K and then
we smashed, then the World Trade Centers, it
was all combined to make a real mess.
Got a note from one of our teachers,
and she said, Adam, thank you for being
pro-human.
Many adults I know.
I am very pro-human.
Kill all humans.
I am so pro-human, it's crazy.
Many adults I know use chat GPT to
help them with basic decisions.
Screen-induced adult retardation.
I'm in education and the board is forcing
us to use AI and screens with toddlers.
All the videos are made with AI slop,
highly addictive flashing of lights and droning house
beats.
It is making the kids retarded.
This must end.
And I asked her for some samples, which
I have not yet received, but I can't
wait to see that.
And then- I'll bet she's right.
Of course she's right.
And then back to the UK, just staying
with the AI for a second, from the
BBC, four new laws will tackle the threat
of child sexual abuse images generated by artificial
intelligence.
The Home Office says the UK will be
the first country in the world to make
it illegal to possess, create, or distribute AI
tools designed to create child sexual abuse material
with a punishment of up to five years
in prison.
This is in Canada?
The UK.
Oh, UK, what am I thinking?
I mean, that's what these tools do.
How are you going to stop that?
I don't have no idea what they're thinking.
Well, it gets worse if we listen to
a clip from the latest interview of Jordan
Peterson with Marc Andreessen, who has been hitting
the Vyvanse, if you know what I mean.
He makes an assertion that is pretty wild.
If the large language model's value is in
their wisdom and that wisdom is derived from
their understanding of the deep pattern of correlations
between ideas, which is like a major source
of wisdom, genuinely speaking, why pervert that with
an overlay of shallow ideology?
And why is the ideology in the direction
that it is?
And then how is that gerrymandering conducted?
Yes, let me start with the how.
So the how is a technique, there's an
acronym for it.
It's called reinforcement learning by human feedback.
And so in the field, it's called RLHF.
And RLHF is basically a key step for
making an AI that works and interacts with
humans, which is you take a raw model,
which is sort of feral and doesn't quite
know how to orient to people.
And then you put it in a training
loop with some set of human beings who
effectively socialize it.
And so reinforcement learning for human feedback, the
key there is human feedback, right?
You put it in dialogue with human beings
and you have the human beings do something
very analogous to teaching a child, right?
Here's how you respond.
Here's how you're polite.
Here's the things you can and can't say.
Here's how to word things.
Here's how to be curious.
All the behaviors that you presumably want to
see from something you're interacting with that is
sort of human, sort of a human proxy
kind of form of behavior.
That is a 100% human enterprise.
You have to decide what the rules are
for the people who are going to be
doing that work.
They're all people.
And then you have to hire into those
jobs.
The people going into those jobs are in
many cases, the same people.
This will horrify you.
They're the same people who were in the
trust and safety groups at the social media
companies five years ago.
Oh, good.
Oh, that's great.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't imagine a worse outcome than that.
Because they're, so all the people that, you
know, Elon cut out of the trust and
safety group at Twitter when he bought it,
many of them have migrated into these trust
and safety groups at these AI companies.
And they're now setting these policies and doing
this training.
There you go.
So that's your chat GPT right there.
That's interesting.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I don't know if it's true.
It makes sense.
I don't know if it's true.
It does make sense though.
I don't know if it's true, but.
Lord help us.
Get rid of this scourge.
All of it.
We can't be dead soon enough.
It's not happening anytime soon.
Can't be dead soon enough.
Please.
All right, I'm spent.
I want to play the Kennedy Saunders little
docket for it.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
This is, Kennedy was at another day of
hearings after our last show, which was on
Thursday.
He had a set of hearings on Friday
with the Justice Judicial Committee, Senate.
And Bernie Sanders was there.
And they went back and forth.
And we already know that Elizabeth Warren and
that other douchebag and those other guys, they
were on the other committee that they were
at, the Finance Committee, I think is what
it was, were all bought and paid for
by Big Pharma.
But Bernie Sanders, ah, he never was.
So he calls out Bernie Sanders, who denies
it, and then has to admit for some
reason, because I guess Kennedy had the data,
that Sanders took 1.5. I'm doing this
in advance because it's kind of muddy.
1.2. No, I thought it was 1
.1. Kennedy said 1.5. Oh, okay.
I think 1.2 is Elizabeth Warren.
But he says 1.5 after Bernie denied
it.
And he says, well, and then Bernie got
all flustered.
He said, well, it was only 1.5
out of 200 million.
200 million, sure.
There's no big deal, it's no big deal.
And then did he realize what he was
saying and already embarrassed by the onesie stuff,
he realized what he was saying and he
just panics and changes the topic.
Here we go.
Almost all the members of this panel are
accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars
from the pharmaceutical industry.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
And protecting their interests.
Oh, I thought that that would, no, no,
no.
I ran for president like you.
I got millions and millions of contributions.
They did not come from the executives.
1.5 million.
Yeah, out of 200 million.
All right, but you have not answered, last
question.
It's Bernie.
I think it was, did he really raise
200 million?
I don't think so.
But he ran for president, yeah.
Yeah, that's a lot of money.
Well, it was just a little bit, man,
just a little bit.
Yeah, it was only 1.5 million to
chicken feed.
Yeah.
This guy's a communist and he says that.
He really realized what he'd done and he
freaked out.
Have we forgotten that he had like three
houses?
I thought he had five.
Oh, maybe it's five.
Well.
Socialism been very, very good to me.
It was interesting.
I have one clip from Blackburn talking to
Kash Patel, putting the fear of God into
people.
Although I thought she could have done a
little more here.
Our colleagues know you're going to clean it
up.
I want to talk to you about the
Epstein case.
I have worked on this for years, trying
to get those records of who flew on
Epstein's plane and who helped him build this
international human trafficking, sex trafficking ring.
Now, earlier I urged then chairman Durbin to
subpoena those records.
And I ended up being blocked by Senator
Durbin and Christopher Wray.
They stonewalled on this.
And I know that breaking up these trafficking
rings is important to President Trump.
So will you work with me on this
issue so we know who worked with Jeffrey
Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings?
Absolutely, Senator.
Child sex trafficking has no place in the
United States of America.
And I will do everything, if confirmed as
FBI director, to make sure the American public
knows the full weight of what happened in
the past and how we are going to
counterman missing children and exploited children going fewer.
What I found disappointing is that she didn't
bring up Diddy files.
You know, it's like, hey, will you let
us know who went to the freak off?
That's what we should have had.
It's very quiet right now.
Very quiet around Diddy.
I don't think, I think constitutional lawyer Rob
said he doesn't expect anything to happen before
May.
I hope Diddy stays alive until then.
And, but it was just a missed opportunity.
I mean, that would have made the news.
Epstein.
Yeah, Epstein's old news.
Very old news.
You know, she said, hey, if she, and
it would have been funny.
It would have been a great clip if
she said, will you let us know who
went to the freak off?
I mean, come on.
Get it together.
Get it together, people.
You should send a note in to the
staff.
Ask for the, if you're going to do
that stuff, you go to, you call the
number up at the office and you ask
for the chief of staff.
You never asked for the congressman.
Oh no, that's wrong.
No.
You'll never get them, that's why.
So you ask for the chief, otherwise you
get an underling.
But if you ask for the chief of
staff, if the chief of staff is there,
they usually will pick up and talk to
you.
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of the best podcast in the universe.
And he says, de-douche me.
We can do that real quick.
Oh, yes.
You've been de-douched.
And he wants to, you're gonna need a
Bitcoin, which you might or might not do
at the end.
And then he says, Hodel, Lons, and Prosper,
Eastside Tony.
And then it says, there's an arrow pointing
to the back, it says on the back,
it says, I used chat GPT to write
this.
It's Hodel, Hodel, not Hodel, Hodel.
Hodel, so anyway, so I just found, because
you had to flip it over, and the
joke is on the back, which is that
he used chat GPT, which is bull crap.
But it just made me laugh out loud
when I read it.
Come on, buddy.
Funny bit.
Okay, onward, onward.
Baron Lattican, I think we had him.
Lai Chow in Daly City, California, 8-84
-38.
A boob call out for Crazy Steve.
The Duke of San Francisco, Ben and Brian,
as I missed the meetup.
Yes, you did.
Jan Brugink in Schmilde, Netherlands.
It's not Schmilde.
Schmilde is a very famous, back in the
70s, there was a very famous train hostage
situation where the maluckers hijacked a train, and
it wound up bad.
The cops went in and shot them, and
killed them and a couple of passengers.
Schmilde, Schmilde.
Fascinating.
This boob donation for my 59th birthday on
February 3rd on the birthday list, he's on
it.
Four more years.
Regards, Jan, aka Master of Disaster.
Master of Disaster.
Kevin McLaughlin's here.
There he is, 8008, another boob donation.
He's the Archduke of Loon, a lover of
American boobs, and we got a note about
Kevin McLaughlin from one of our producers, and
you thanked him profusely.
He did the research, and he is indeed,
I guess he was a Viscount, and he
is an Archduke, so we did some calculations
on how much money he's contributed.
Yeah, so this is now, his new title
is Archduke.
Yeah, he's Archduke.
I think he's been calling himself that for
a while.
Yeah, so he's on his way to Grand
Duke, and when that happens, he gets a
jingle.
Yeah, well, he's in again for 8008.
Sir Chris Abraham in Arlington, Virginia, 6369.
Not a spook, he says, which is not
a thing you wanna say because you are
probably.
Arlington, Virginia.
He's in Arlington, Virginia.
Sure.
Lester Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006, so it's
just small boob.
Gregory Kierdak in Padova, Italy.
Ah.
Hello.
I think we should pick up some Italian
listeners.
John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 5272.
These are all $50 donors, actually, but I'm
gonna read them off separately.
Catherine Von Esch, 5272.
James Moore in San Pablo, 5233.
Michael Belcher, 5150.
Sir Chris in Williams, Arizona on the birthday
list, 5150.
Peter Garten in Edina, Minnesota.
That's Edina, 51.
Now the $50 donors are upon us.
There's not that many people total in today's
show, but we got them.
Jordan Tierney in Oral, South Dakota.
Scott McCarty in Lodi.
Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.
Matt Frazee, F-R-A-Z-E-E
in St. John's, Florida.
Foster Birch, New York City.
Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan.
Robert Drykosen in Parts Unknown.
Terrence Phillips in Florence, Montana.
Now this is interesting.
Terrence says, I just don't have time to
listen to your podcasts, but I do enjoy
your emails.
This is for the newsletter, John.
Yeah, it's the first donation.
Newsletter sent to the donation.
That's great.
Value for value for the newsletter.
Here's my donation.
Hope that you keep doing whatever you're doing
since I don't listen.
It's great.
Well, listen.
Well, he's not listening to this, so what
difference does it make?
Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon, 50.
He loves the podcast, obviously.
And Nelson Naff, N-A-F in Portugal,
50, just turned 50, he's on the birthday
list, and he will be birthdayed later.
I want to thank these people for show
1735.
Yes, and has requested, gotta have a Bitcoin
and a divorced single dad karma.
They're saying that all hell is gonna break
loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin.
You've got karma.
Thank you very much to the supporters of
the best podcast in the universe.
And again, thank you to our executive and
associate executive producers.
Go to noagendadonations.com, especially if you're a
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And if not, you can set one up,
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Support the show, support the work, support us,
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It's your birthday party, on No Agenda TV.
Sir Chris of the Benevolent Order of the
Choo-Choos, which is Max Power of Sequim
in Washington, a very happy birthday.
He's celebrated on the 31st of January.
Jan Brueghink turns 59 tomorrow, as does Alexander,
only he turns 33, and Nelson Naff turns
50 years old.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ And we
do have one night, that's right.
We have one night, so we'll get our
one night blade out.
It's the mother of plural handle.
Oh, you got your drink?
You can't be using blades and drinks at
the same time.
I used a blade to open a drink.
It's an orange vanilla polar seltzer.
Come on up here in the podium, sir.
Thank you very much for supporting the No
Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000
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I am very proud to pronounce the KD
as Sir James DuPont, Knight of Soul Fun
Meme.
That's soulfunmeme.com.
For you, sir, we have hookers and blows,
records and blows, red boys and chardonnay.
Along with that, in case you want it,
we got fish pie and palacio.
We have mustard jolie and margaritas, redheads and
ryes, rubinous, rubin and rosé, gayson and sake,
vodka, vanilla, bongets and bourbon, sparkling cider and
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The big favorite, oh, of course, as always,
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No Agenda Meetups!
Well, I don't think I have to explain
how important these meetups are.
So many people mentioned that already, and of
course, John did his report of the meetup
there in Alameda.
We did have a big meetup- Albany.
In Albany.
Albany.
Oh, Albany.
A-W-L-B-A-N-Y.
Albany.
And we had a very big meetup in
Chicago.
This is where Eli the Coffee Guy hung
out, and more!
Hey, Adam and John, thanks for everything.
This is your gracious host, Blake Michigan.
I'm wearing a onesie.
Brian with a Y.
We are here, we're definitely editing in a
post, and I'm about to pass the phone
around.
We're sucking in soot.
In the morning, John and Adam, this is
Barron NBS down here at Reggie's, South Loop,
Chicago, in the morning.
This is Kate, and Eli hooked us up
with some free coffee.
What's up, guys?
This is Eli the Coffee Guy saying, no
agenda is a spectacular podcast, and I'm with
some spectacular people here at Reggie's.
This is Rack from North Riverside, in the
morning.
This is Dame Courtney, guardian of the aerodrome.
Planes, bad, trains, good, especially after this.
This week, shit.
Tony in Chicago here, wishing everyone two to
the head.
Two, two.
In the morning, Walter and Stettler.
PBR Street Gang coming to you from Chicago.
Hey, guys, leave the comedy to the Bears.
Dame Trinity visiting from Fort Wayne here in
Chicago, having a great time as always.
Thank you for your courage.
The Bears who beat Green Bay for the
last game with the worst offensive line ever.
Hey, yay, Bears.
William here.
Hi, my name is Armando Padilla.
I am here with the No Agenda crew
at Reggie's Bar, and this is my little
feedback on the crew.
I really enjoyed their presence.
It's really cool to see people connect on
a podcast, bringing people together.
It's also super interesting to see the content
that they're talking about.
We're all tapped into this world very differently,
and I love that this podcast can bring
so many people together.
No Agendas, really enjoy it.
I'm definitely going to be checking it out
on my spare time.
Appreciate you.
That was the server, which I thought was
quite good.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
And this is very liberal Chicago, Chicago.
So I thought that was cool.
I appreciate that.
All right.
Turning around.
Ralph Reed.
What about Ralph Reed?
That's the name.
It finally came to me.
Oh, the guy from three hours ago?
Yeah.
Let me take a look at the Ralph
Reed.
That name means nothing to me.
Let me see.
Oh, very famous guy.
Ralph Reed was the head of the Christian
Coalition during the early 1990s.
He's a consultant, lobbyist.
He was very famous, and then he got
caught with some scandal.
With his pants down?
What's that again?
It was his pants down, something in his
mouth, or some money deal, which is probably
more likely.
Uh, yeah.
Ralph Reed, yeah, very famous.
He was on every show.
Huh, I'd never heard of Ralph Reed.
Interesting.
It's interesting you never heard of him.
Well, what's cool is that people who listened
to this whole episode got the clue at
the end of the show.
I know that many- He's been grinding
on this for like a day.
Many have been just sitting here, when it
just came to me.
Ah, I can't figure it out.
Actually, Ralph came to me first, and then
I got the Reed part later, and then,
oh, that's right.
If you're in Pennsylvania today, the Too Many
Kegs meetup is underway at McGillin's Old Ale
House in Philly.
On Thursday, our next show day, the North
Idaho Sanity Brigade meets their first meetup of
2025, five o'clock at Trails and Brewery
and Brick Oven Pizza.
That's in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
And also on Thursday, the Northern Wake Publical
Slave Gathering, six o'clock at Saints and
Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina.
We have more coming up in the month
of February.
Colorado Springs, Snohomish, Washington, Eagle, Idaho, Fort Wayne,
Indiana, Rockville, Maryland, Bedford, Texas, Shelby Township, Michigan,
Keene, New Hampshire, Charlotte, North Carolina, Columbia River
Basin, that's the Tri-Cities, and Washington, Ottawa,
Ontario.
That'll be 25% more expensive to send
in your meetup report.
Orlando, Florida, and Indianapolis, Indiana on the 23rd.
Those are just some of the meetups that
are taking place.
There's a whole list, you can find them
at noagendameetups.com.
These are producer-organized, you take care of
yourself, you take care of each other.
Why?
Because connection is protection.
Get that attitude of gratitude, go over to
noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one, start one yourself.
♪ Sometimes you wanna go hang out ♪
♪ With all the nights and days ♪
♪ You wanna be where you want to
be ♪ ♪ Drink it all, hell's a
flame ♪ ♪ You wanna be where everybody
feels the same ♪ It's like a party.
Always, always, always like a party.
You heard it right there, it's like a
party.
Even the server's getting on.
Hey, it's like a party, wanna be here.
So I see you only have one ISO.
Yes.
Huh.
Because it's so good that if you have
something better, good for you.
Maybe, I don't know.
I'm gonna tell you something.
Here's a tip for people out there looking
for ISOs.
Books on tape.
Books on tape?
Oh.
Yeah, because the guys, because there's lots of
different kinds of things they say and it's
always crystal clear.
Yes, okay.
Well, should we play yours first?
I have three.
No, I wanna hear yours first and see
if I, because I'll push this off if
you got something great.
Okay.
This doesn't seem very useful.
It's negative.
What a way to start a Sunday fun
day.
I'm just saying.
And then, Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's not bad.
We have, oh, good.
Oh, that's great.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Come on, man.
I didn't like that when you said it
the first time.
Can you beat it?
Well, let's see.
The fun day Sunday one is good, but
check this one out.
There is no way anything can be this
good.
Hmm.
Let me, let's do an ISO off.
What a way to start a Sunday fun
day.
There is no way anything can be this
good.
Oh man, I don't know.
I'd leave it to you.
I'm going to leave it to Beaver.
Are you gonna actually leave it to me?
Yeah.
Both.
No, it's too long.
With yours first.
It doesn't fit in the, we only have
four seconds.
Well, I'm gonna have to relent.
And even though mine's crystal clear, the fun
day Sunday thing is funnier.
And it is Sunday.
And it is fun day.
And so I don't know.
Okay, you win.
Hold on a second.
Let me just kick this guy because he
said both sucked.
Let me kick him.
Both sucked.
He said they both sucked.
Get him out of here.
And now ladies and gentlemen, time once again
for the famous John's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just the tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Created by my lady.
Now I'm gonna get to the point where
I'm gonna start repeating myself on some things.
Well, then that's the end of the tips
of the day.
I mean, if you're gonna be repeating yourself.
No, it's just gonna be repeating.
I can get a million of them.
I'm recommending Bio-Sil.
Have we done this one?
Have we done Bio-Sil?
I've mentioned Bio-Sil because it's the drops.
I use six drops of this stuff in
my concoction.
But I never discussed it directly.
And people can look it up if they
did.
I have another, I get backup, but I
don't think I need it.
Backup to the back.
This is a collagen generated.
This is an invention out of Japan.
The Japanese are into collagen.
And if anyone doesn't know this, the recent
discoveries in collagen, which is good for the
structure of your skin because it holds it
together.
I don't use this as much as I
should.
But you can buy like marine collagen, you
can buy all these collagens now because they've
changed the way they're manufactured to the point
where they're actually used.
They can be used.
They can get into the bloodstream and then
go drop collagen all over the place, which
you need for your structure.
You need collagen?
Is this true?
We need collagen?
Yes, you need lots of collagen.
You need collagen and you start to lose
it and it starts to fall apart and
that's when your face starts to sag and
you have all these issues.
But this stuff, this is not collagen.
This is a thing that helps your body
get the collagen where it belongs and move
it around and make collagen.
It's like collagen hamburger helper.
Yes, I would say that, which is one
of your all-time favorites.
Yes.
Hamburger helper is used as an adjuvant is
where you started using it.
That's right.
With the vaccines.
That's right.
You remember well.
This was established years and years ago.
Yes, true.
It's a callback.
This is, it comes in pills which are
extremely expensive or these drops which are like
half the price and do the same thing.
The problem with the drops is that if
you don't follow instructions on how to use
them, it will wreck anything you'd put the
drops into.
Because it's got a weird bitter flavor that
is just like, I don't like that in
my mouth.
Are you supposed to eat it?
No, if you put it in something with
citric acid like an orange juice or lemon
juice or that way you wouldn't use lemon
juice but grapefruit juice or orange juice, it
just, you don't even know it's in there.
So you put the six drops in the
orange juice and drink the orange juice as
normal and you, this stuff's fabulous.
So this would be good if you have
ozempic face, you take some of these drops.
Yeah, I think so.
I like it.
Have you been taking them?
The ozempic?
No.
No, the drops, the collagen hamburger helper.
Yeah, I've been taking them for years.
Oh, no wonder you look so young and
youthful.
Oh yeah, I don't look that young.
I probably need to take more of it.
Tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.
Creative lives for you and me, just the
tip of the JCB.
And sometimes Adam, created by Danny Brunetti.
That's right, everybody.
That is the end of our broadcast day
for today for Sunday Funday, the 2nd of
February.
Grammy's tonight, so I'll be getting my, I'll
be getting my- Watch party.
Watch party.
And looking for the satanic messages.
That's right, that's exactly right.
The satanic messages, the Illuminati, you know they'll
all be there.
And Taylor Swift, it's always a party over
there at the Grammy's.
Coming up, we have end of show mixes,
Jesse Coyne Nelson and Tom Starkweather.
Two of Tom Starkweather, actually.
Brand new one at the end.
Coming up next on noagenda.stream and trollroom
.io and the modern podcast apps, we have
a show you should always be listening to
every single week.
It's live on Wednesday, DH Unplugged.
And this is the episode where John and
Andrew talk about Cheap Seek.
Do not want to miss that.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, where
everybody is all happy and excited.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the atmospheric
river is, oh, dud.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Thursday.
Please join us then.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com, noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and
such.
Republicans now getting cold feet on how to
handle the Mexico tariffs that the president vows
will go into effect next week.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senator John
Corbyn, they want to talk to the president
in private.
Senators Chuck Grassley, Pat Toomey, Rob Portman, they're
contemplating legislation to stop the president.
And what do you think of Republicans who
say that they may take action to block
you imposing those tariffs?
No, I don't think they will do that.
I think if they do, it's foolish.
There's nothing more important than borders.
I've had tremendous Republican support.
I have a 90%, 94% approval rating.
I don't know much about Cinco de Mayo.
I'm never sure what it's all about.
In an open letter to President Trump, Mexico's
president wrote, in part, quote, These
Central American migrants are being chased by Mexican
immigration agents.
In coordination with federal police, immigration officials now
appear to be adopting a more aggressive approach.
He said, we're gonna put tariffs on Mexico.
Well, senators said, wait a minute.
Yeah.
Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole
lot of willingness to stand up to this
president.
He's got a 90% approval rating among
Republican voters, and all the Republican senators know
that.
And every month, those tariffs go from 5
% to 10% to 15% to
20 and then to 25%, hence the color
orange.
If tariffs is what it takes to get
Mexico to do better on their side of
the border, I'm all for tariffs.
Peddling in half-truths, peddling in false statements,
peddling in theories that, you know, create doubt
about whether or not things that we know
are safe are unsafe.
You frighten people.
In a gobsmacking statement of irresponsibility.
Almost all the members of this panel are
accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars
from the pharmaceutical industry.
Oh, no.
And protecting their interests.
Oh, I thought that that would.
No.
Are you supportive of these onesies?
I'm supportive of vaccines.
You are going to do such a solid
job for the people of this country.
How long does it keep going?
At some time, you're just battering the witness.
I'm not battering the witness.
Let's try to get an answer.
You're getting upset at him.
You're going at him just like anybody else
would.
We'll come to a...
Adios, mofo.
What a way to start a Sunday fun
day.