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Yeah, he bled like a little sissy.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Devorah.

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It's Thursday, February 27th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning give on Asian

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Media.

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Assassination episode 1742.

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This is no agenda.

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Confusing, chaotic, and broadcasting live from the heart

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of the TTCO country here in FEMA region

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number 6.

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In the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where we want

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to remind all the kids don't eat dead

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bats.

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I'm John C.

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Devorah.

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It's crackpot and buzzkill.

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In the morning.

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Yeah, that was a great report.

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Do you have that report?

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Well, I don't have audio now.

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I think I have the report.

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Hold on a second.

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Yes, it's the mysterious virus in the Congo.

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More than 15 people have died in Northwestern

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Democratic Republic of Congo because of a mystery

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virus.

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Mystery.

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According to health experts from Bikoro Hospital, a

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regional monitoring center, the symptoms resemble those linked

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to deadly viruses such as Ebola and dengue.

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The outbreak started at the end of January.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Stop.

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Stop the clip.

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It actually should be Ebola and Marburg.

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That's a hemorrhagic...

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hard to get to that point.

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I don't know.

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It shouldn't be any of this.

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This is a bullcrap report.

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Well, we know it's a bullcrap report, but

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at least put Marburg in.

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It's a little scarier than dengue.

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The outbreak started at the end of January.

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The virus was first discovered in three children

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who ate a bat.

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No!

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More than 400 cases have been recorded so

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far.

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This is the most racist thing you can

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imagine.

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This is so racist.

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It's like, yes, the little African kids are

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so hungry.

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They're walking around naked.

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You know, these dumb African kids so they

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see a dead bat and like any other

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child would immediately go eat it.

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I mean, come on.

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Kids won't even eat vegetables.

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Now, who's racist now?

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You don't know about the African diet.

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They eat bats by the side of the

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Oh, no, Jimmy.

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Let's go eat the dead bat instead of

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going yuck and running away like a kid

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I want to meet those kids.

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I want an interview with them.

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Don't just give me that story.

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Give me the background.

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I want these kids going, well, you know,

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we saw the bat and we said, haven't

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had food in five days.

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I think we'll eat the bat.

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It looks so tasty, this dead bat.

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We need more information on this.

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We can't just take this at face value.

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That's no good.

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Hey, I'm going to sum up the week's

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M5M because as we have noted on this

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program for probably all of our 17 plus

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years, the media likes to glom onto one

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certain phrase and repeat it over and over

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ad nauseam.

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And here is this week's phrase.

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Tonight, confusion and chaos is spreading within a

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number of agencies across the federal government.

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Tonight, chaos and confusion across the federal government.

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This morning, chaos and confusion across the federal

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government.

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This morning, there's more chaos and confusion within

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the federal government.

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We have been reporting on the chaos and

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confusion.

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Chaos and confusion has already broken out.

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Other than his mega cult, nobody wants this

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chaos and confusion.

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How do you see this chaos and confusion

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ending?

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There is a lot of confusion, lots of

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chaos.

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Of course it's creating chaos and confusion.

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The Musk-inspired chaos and confusion in the

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federal government sows the seeds of more chaos

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and more confusion and more disillusionment.

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Oh, chaos and confusion.

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That's what it is.

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Yeah, I'm glad you got that because I

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had a supercut but it was mostly chaos,

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chaos, chaos.

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But chaos and confusion, that's the clip.

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That's the combo.

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And alliteration is great in broadcasts.

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They always like to do the one-two

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punch, you know, safe and effective.

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Chaos and confusion.

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Now, if you want to know the source

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of the chaos and confusion, I am so

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happy that this man is back on the

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no-agenda scene.

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He's back on our radar.

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He is an end-of-show mix in

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the making.

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I present to you the man who can

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tell you exactly why we have chaos and

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confusion, the one, the only, running for mayor,

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Reverend Manning.

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Elon Musk, the richest man in the world,

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gave transgender Tribulation Trump $280 million to his

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campaign.

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That's what he gave on the top of

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the table.

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And now he owns Trump.

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That's right.

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He owns Trump.

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Whatever he tells Trump to do, Trump jumps.

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When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.

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When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.

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Trump, Trump, Trump.

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When Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump jumps.

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Jump, Trump, jump, jump, jump.

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What Elon Musk said, Trump, Trump, got the

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jump.

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Man, that guy is so good.

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It's so good to have him back.

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For some reason, he's always been a Trump

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hater.

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first go-around, and he never was, we

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never got anything from him during the Biden

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He hated Obama to an extreme.

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Oh yeah, big time, yeah.

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And then he hated Trump, but he never

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really hated on Biden so much.

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At least we never picked up on it.

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I always found that peculiar.

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Well, he's running for mayor in New York

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City, which is great.

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Well, it'd be definitely entertaining.

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It is great.

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And I guess Cuomo, the old Cuomo guy's

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gonna run too.

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Oh yeah, he looks like he's been on

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the O, man.

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He's been sucking down the- Mario?

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face and body.

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Huh, I haven't seen him.

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He's smaller than he used to be.

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I have bad news, although it's in a

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way- Can I guess the bad news?

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You'll never guess.

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They're not gonna bring out the Epstein stuff

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that Pam Bondi promised yesterday on the Jesse

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I saw, actually, I heard her promise that.

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my Sirius XM receiver.

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I heard her say, oh, Jesse, oh, it's

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coming out.

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We're gonna release it tomorrow.

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Oh, it's so bad.

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Oh, you won't, it's so bad.

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We'll see.

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It's supposed to be today.

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I'm waiting.

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I thought she said Friday.

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No, no, she said today.

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But tomorrow never comes, John.

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We all know.

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And Friday is Zelensky Day.

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He's on the plane.

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I saw a video of him getting on

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the, and right now, Keir Starmer is sitting

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in the Oval Office, and he's sitting, doing

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one of those press things where they all

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yell at Trump about China and other things

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and tariffs and blah, blah, blah.

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You said Europe was built to screw us.

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It's really something to behold.

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Fox coverage because I think it's probably better

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news, generally speaking, but when they do news.

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none of these, especially the analysts, nobody seems

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to want to mention the fact that Starmer's

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the guy, as the head of the Labor

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Party, who sent a bunch of operatives over

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to the United States to campaign for Kamala

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Harris, and nobody wants to discuss the fact

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that that could be souring the relationship between

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the United States and the UK.

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That's not funny.

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We have to be hair on fire.

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Okay, so I had four and a half

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as much CNN as I could, as much

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MSNBC as I could.

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That was super boring to listen to.

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But the spin-up is just out of

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And here's the bad news.

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So like many Americans, we have liberals in

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our families.

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so spun up and just, just completely, it's

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not working.

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Going all out of control about Trump's gonna

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cut Medicare.

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Trump's gonna cut Social Security.

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It's gonna hurt everybody.

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It's gonna hurt me.

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I won't have any medical, you know, just,

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and by the way, Trump can't do any

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of that.

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Only Congress can do it.

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Not only that, but Trump specifically said that

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he's not going to.

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I know, but you know, this is what

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the media, and so my question was, where

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are you getting this from?

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Well, I know that you're getting others, you

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know, it's respectful, by the way.

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This is the good news about our family

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is, you know, everybody can give their opinion

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and know, and everyone still loves each other.

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That's quite spectacular, honestly.

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Yeah, because we're hanging on by a thread.

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And so where are you getting this from?

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Well, I listen to big platforms like, what

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do you think?

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Well, it'd be the New York Times, MSNBC,

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CNN, Deutsche Welle.

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Big platforms, I don't know how much bigger

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I can get.

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Midas Touch.

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Oh, really?

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Yes.

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And they think that's a big platform?

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Well, if you look on YouTube, every episode

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has over a million views and they do

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15 a day.

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And each episode is about 15, 16 minutes.

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They are really flooding the zone and it's

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working.

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Well, that's the way you do it.

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And you know, you get the news, like

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they dethrone.

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I mean, the whole psyop was perfect.

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It's like, you know, tell everybody that they've

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dethroned Joe Rogan and then they tune in.

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And it's just the one of the brothers,

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I think they do switch off and they

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just sit there.

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And I mean, every single title is clickbait,

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Trump's losing it out of control.

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No grasp, Elon's the president.

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It goes on and on and on and

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on.

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And so when it comes to, so I

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just pulled up two clips from this horrendous

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podcast.

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And so they're really riling people up and

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they're doing a good job.

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I have to say, cause they're complete insiders.

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You know, they had a political action committee

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for the Democrat party.

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You know, one of them is a lawyer.

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The other one is Colin Kaepernick's business partner.

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These are not just some bros from Brooklyn.

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They've been on the inside and it's better

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than, what is that stupid show?

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Pod Save America.

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I think they've completely taken those, you know,

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cause Pod Save America was all hate Republicans,

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hate Trump, all stupid, but they were kind

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of hoity-toity for like the, you know,

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like the New York elite set, the Washington

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elites, because they were also former Obama speech

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writers and they got into kind of the

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weeds of the political process.

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These guys, they just come out and go

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blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And anything Trump does is dumb.

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And so this is a clip I heard

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last night on my way home.

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This country has gotten bloated and fat and

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disgusting and incompetently run.

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Mirror, mirror on the wall.

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That was Donald Trump apparently talking about himself

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during his first cabinet meeting of his new

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term.

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Donald Trump was joined by his puppet master,

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Elon Musk, who led much of the meeting,

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which was completely bizarre, full of lies.

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And at times Donald Trump didn't even seem

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to acknowledge that he is actually the president.

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Are you kind of starting to get what

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they're doing here?

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This is Rachel Maddow to an extreme without

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the smug, dumb pauses of Rachel Maddow.

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I have to say they're doing a good

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job here.

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My name is Brett Micellis with Midas Touch.

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I'm going to walk you through the lowlights

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and fact check it all.

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But first, remember to hit subscribe to help

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us get to 5 million subscribers.

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The meeting began with a prayer where they

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thanked God for President Trump, just completely bizarre

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stuff.

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Completely bizarre.

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They're praying in the cabinet meeting is no

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good.

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Watch this.

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Father, we thank you for this awesome privilege,

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Father, to be in your presence.

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God, thank you that you've allowed us to

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see this day.

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The Bible says that your mercies are new

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every morning.

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And Father God, we give you the glory

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and the honor.

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Thank you, God, for President Trump, Father, for

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appointing us.

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Father God, thank you for anointing us to

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do this job.

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Trump then didn't even seem to know that

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he is president right now.

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And he said that while egg prices are

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a disaster and are really high now, they

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were low with him.

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These eggs are a disaster.

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The Secretary of Agriculture is going to be

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showing you a chart that's actually mind boggling

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what's happened, how low they were with us

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and how high they are now.

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So all this questioning, lead-ins, like, well,

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of course they were lower.

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They didn't have bird flu when he was

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president the first time.

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But then everything is with this interesting slant

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and it's working.

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It's just working.

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I have to say, they are spinning people

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up and they're doing a better job than

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any of those mainstream outlets you mentioned, particularly

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because it's a nonstop barrage.

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And so the bad news is now I'm

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going to have to follow these jamokes.

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Now I'm going to have to listen to

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what they're doing.

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Good, I'm glad you're going to do it

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because I can't stand listening to them.

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They're also riling up everybody about the backlash,

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the Doge backlash.

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So yeah, there's backlash by people who are

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spun up.

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It's, I'm pretty sure it's- By them.

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Yes, well, listen to it.

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You'll get the idea of how they're doing

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this.

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And then I'll, I don't have any more

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of them today, but I'm going to have

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to have at least one each show.

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Let me just show you a longer clip

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from that town hall.

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And then I want to show you that

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from Wisconsin to Georgia, to New York, to

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the West Coast, people are rising up right

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now.

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And having their voices heard.

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They're rising up.

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Red states, blue states, purple states, all of

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the colors.

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People are angry.

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People are pissed.

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People demand action.

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Watch this right here from that town hall.

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Let's play it.

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They didn't like some of Scott Fitzgerald's answers.

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The end result of the fraud and abuse

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that has been discovered already.

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Michael Wittig is concerned with Elon Musk's role

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in the Trump administration.

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He held up a sign that red presidents

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are not kings.

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Are you going to subpoena him?

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You can guess that this guy was not

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a Republican rising up with a sign like

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that.

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Well, no, actually there was, somebody researched this

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out and discovered it was a left-wing

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organization, an activist.

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There wasn't a Republican in the place.

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That's the point.

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And they were making a fuss as if

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they were Republicans.

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And you're telling me that Midas Touch with

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all their quote unquote fact-checking that they

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claim didn't bring this up?

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I'm not going to claim it.

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I'm going to say that's exactly what happened.

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And I'm saying it with evidence.

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Are not kings.

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Are you going to subpoena him at some

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point?

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After you're done with the budget or whatever.

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Are you willing to use your subpoena power

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to say Trump, or sorry, Musk, come in

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here, stand in front of Congress and answer

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some hard questions.

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Congressman Fitzgerald insists Musk's efforts to find waste

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and fraud are working and Congress will eventually

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have budget oversight.

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So now I want to share with you

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what was going down in New York.

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Going down.

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And Representative Paul Tonko.

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Going down.

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Congressional District Democrat, Paul Tonko, here at this

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town hall, a huge ovation.

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Interesting how he uses a Trump huge instead

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of huge.

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That just caught that for some reason.

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Here at this town hall, a huge ovation.

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I think that's intentional.

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As a teacher.

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Well, yeah, that's also, Bernie also says that.

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Encourages Congressmember Paul Tonko, who is pushing back

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to do more, to work harder, even if

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that means getting arrested for civil disobedience.

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You're in public service right now.

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You cannot sit idly by as Elon Musk

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and these billionaires take away all of people's

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rights and freedoms.

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Watch the energy in this room in New

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York.

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Play this clip.

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Yeah, so we're not going to play this

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clip.

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But they are, they're really, it's working.

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So they're basically gaslighting.

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Oh, totally gaslighting.

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And they're doing a good job of it,

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is what you're claiming.

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Yes, yes.

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And you have proof of that by virtue

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of the fact that you have relatives in

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your own family circle that have been gaslit

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by these guys and they're all spun up.

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So I'll just read you some titles.

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Just to summarize on your behalf.

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Trump morning disaster.

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Major SCOTUS order.

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Release the files.

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Whoa, Canada.

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And mic drop.

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He's freaking out.

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Fatal move, Donald.

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Stay the hell out, Donald.

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Total loser move.

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Show me the evidence.

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Whoa, it's happening.

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These are the titles.

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And they've already released one, two, three, four,

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five, six, seven, eight.

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They've already released eight so far today.

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And we're not even at 130.

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And each one has up to, well, it

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takes about six hours and they get up

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to about a million views.

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Not all of them, but the majority of

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them.

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So they're doing, and that's just YouTube.

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So they're doing it right.

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And it's working.

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And they should get a medal.

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From- Oh, they'll get a medal, all

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right.

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Oh yeah.

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Some precious medal is what they're getting.

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So yeah.

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And they have ads and they're probably making

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movie.

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Not movie, making money.

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I say making movies because Gene Hackman died.

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Well, he did.

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Oh yeah, well, did you not hear this?

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This is- No, I- Oh, this

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is an interesting story.

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This morning, authorities investigating the death of a

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Hollywood legend.

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Gene Hackman found dead Wednesday alongside his wife,

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classical pianist, Betsy Arakawa, in their home in

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Santa Fe.

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Police say the couple who married in 1991

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were found with their dog after a neighbor

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called police to do a welfare check.

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So he, his wife, and the dog were

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all dead.

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And there's no suspected foul play.

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And we don't have an answer.

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Yeah, I'm thinking carbon monoxide.

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Absolutely.

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That's what I'm thinking.

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He's 95.

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You don't need a lot of- But

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she was only 65, I think.

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She wasn't all that old.

554
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,200
And the dog, you know, the dog being

555
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,680
dead, and there's no mention of guns, and

556
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,340
explosions, and poison pills anywhere.

557
00:18:49,620 --> 00:18:51,620
If the dog is also dead, then I'm

558
00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:52,760
thinking carbon monoxide.

559
00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:57,000
But it's just in time to promote the

560
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,420
Oscars.

561
00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,820
That's the good news.

562
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,800
Never, never, never, never put any- Yeah,

563
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,580
never miss out on that.

564
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,980
Well, it's like the other person that divorces

565
00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:07,800
is Trachtenberg actress.

566
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,100
Who was that?

567
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:09,820
Trachtenberg?

568
00:19:09,820 --> 00:19:12,200
She was on Buffy, and a bunch of

569
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,120
other, Gossip Girl, and whatever.

570
00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:17,140
And she was 39.

571
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,180
And of course, the first thing they dug

572
00:19:20,180 --> 00:19:22,560
up was tweets of her condemning people for

573
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,760
not getting vaxxed.

574
00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:25,380
Oh, goodness.

575
00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,720
Well, I might as well play one Oscar

576
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,400
clip just to get it out of the

577
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,940
way, because it's this coming Sunday.

578
00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:34,900
And they're doing everything they can.

579
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,120
Let's promote it, and let's keep dying on

580
00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,100
those hills, everybody.

581
00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:41,200
Activist and writer April Rain is reflecting on

582
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,080
the viral moment that turned into a movement.

583
00:19:44,660 --> 00:19:46,440
It all started when she was watching the

584
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,480
Oscar nominations in 2015.

585
00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:52,260
It struck me that category after category, there

586
00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:54,640
were no people of color nominated for any

587
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,560
of the acting slots.

588
00:19:55,780 --> 00:19:55,880
There you go.

589
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,960
I mean, zero for 20.

590
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,860
Rain's viral call for change produced real results

591
00:20:00,860 --> 00:20:03,040
at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and

592
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,500
Sciences.

593
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,360
Since hashtag OscarsSoWhite, the Academy made an effort

594
00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,320
to diversify its pool of members who get

595
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,520
to vote on who should win the Academy

596
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,220
Awards.

597
00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:17,580
So that people who don't look like me

598
00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:20,320
or don't look like you aren't making decisions

599
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,560
for me without getting my input.

600
00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:25,460
That change is noticeable.

601
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,280
Last year, 20% of the Academy nominees

602
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,380
were from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.

603
00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,440
That's compared to just 9% in 2015.

604
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,580
Rain says while the Academy has improved its

605
00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:40,400
on-screen diversity, there's more work to be

606
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,800
done behind the camera.

607
00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:47,060
I see more people, actors and producers, directors,

608
00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:49,180
creating their own production companies.

609
00:20:49,580 --> 00:20:51,540
No longer waiting for their seat at the

610
00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:54,300
table, but creating their own mansion and putting

611
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,180
their table and chair in it.

612
00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:58,720
And Rain had this advice for those feeling

613
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,260
discriminated and marginalized.

614
00:21:00,580 --> 00:21:02,600
Do not let anyone tell you that you

615
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,200
don't belong in the room.

616
00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:06,000
Go and claim your space.

617
00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:08,140
Okay, so I guess, claim your space.

618
00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:09,760
Podcasts are so white.

619
00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,860
Yeah, yeah, right.

620
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,300
They are.

621
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,920
Well, that's not true because we're gonna see

622
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,880
a lot more podcasters of color, also known

623
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,480
as POCs.

624
00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:22,700
POCs, POCs, yes.

625
00:21:22,980 --> 00:21:25,380
We also have Gavin Newsom, who's decided instead

626
00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:27,280
of governing the state of California, he's gonna

627
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,840
podcast.

628
00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:30,060
Yeah, I haven't listened yet.

629
00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:31,100
That's gonna be a winner.

630
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,000
Yeah, no, the POCs are going to be

631
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,860
Joy Reid's podcast, Lester Holt's podcast.

632
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,600
They're all gonna be POCs, POCcasters.

633
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,280
There you go, POCcasters.

634
00:21:41,340 --> 00:21:41,740
POCcasters.

635
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,060
I'm gonna have to write that one down

636
00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:43,760
just in case.

637
00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:46,780
Yeah, yeah.

638
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:54,580
And remember, remember that it is a podcaster

639
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,040
who is now assistant director of the FBI.

640
00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:00,400
I mean, this is an outrage.

641
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,660
Bongino.

642
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,160
Code Bongino.

643
00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:04,900
Code Bongino.

644
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,660
Yes.

645
00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:08,000
I wonder what his code name will be,

646
00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:08,700
Bongino.

647
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,380
I think I have a clip, hold on

648
00:22:11,380 --> 00:22:11,780
a second.

649
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:14,360
Where is that?

650
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,540
Is it under, I'm over, oh, here we

651
00:22:17,540 --> 00:22:18,120
go, yes.

652
00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:19,600
Over to Pooper.

653
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,240
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality.

654
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,620
MAGA Media personality.

655
00:22:24,060 --> 00:22:24,540
MAGA Media.

656
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,400
Hey, everybody, MAGA Media here.

657
00:22:27,420 --> 00:22:29,520
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality.

658
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,200
I like MAGA Media as a show title,

659
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,480
by the way.

660
00:22:31,580 --> 00:22:32,260
MAGA Media, okay.

661
00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:35,160
Yet another prominent MAGA Media personality has been

662
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,280
tapped for a top role in the Trump

663
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:36,860
administration.

664
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,140
This time it is podcaster, next Secret Service

665
00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:40,280
agent, Dan Bongino.

666
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,240
Podcaster.

667
00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:43,800
The first thing you get, podcasting's come a

668
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,500
long way, John.

669
00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:45,420
I want credit.

670
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,100
He's got a good background.

671
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,360
When they say podcaster, they should say created

672
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,020
by Adam Curry.

673
00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:53,940
And this time it is podcaster, next Secret

674
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:55,060
Service agent, Dan Bongino.

675
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,640
Yeah, exactly, like Brunetti.

676
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,700
I bet Brunetti's balls you'd be pushing this.

677
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:00,960
I'd sue him, I'd sue him, I tell

678
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,100
you.

679
00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:01,520
Administration.

680
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,780
This time it is podcaster, next Secret Service

681
00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:04,920
agent, Dan Bongino.

682
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,040
The president announced in a social media post

683
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,060
late last night that, quote, great news for

684
00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:10,600
law enforcement and American justice.

685
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,740
Dan Bongino, a man of incredible love and

686
00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:14,420
passion for our country, has just been named

687
00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:16,960
the next deputy director of the FBI by

688
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,260
the man who will be the best ever

689
00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:19,420
director, Kash Patel.

690
00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:21,560
Now, we should point out, the deputy director

691
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,640
oversees the day-to-day operations of the

692
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,300
bureau, and typically the role is held by

693
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:27,700
career federal agents, which Bongino isn't.

694
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:29,960
A decade or so ago, Mr. Bongino appeared

695
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,560
on this program a number of times, giving

696
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,260
thoughtful and serious commentary on law enforcement matters.

697
00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:35,740
This was him in 2014.

698
00:23:36,260 --> 00:23:36,980
Okay, thoughtful.

699
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320
Police departments in general, Anderson, there is a

700
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,360
crisis in policing, and it's a crisis in

701
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:44,360
training, despite what some of the other guests

702
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:44,720
have said.

703
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,520
I was there, I went through the police

704
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,960
academy three times, twice with the NYPD and

705
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,900
once with the Secret Service.

706
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,580
There is a crisis in training.

707
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,940
It is not taking- Does that mean

708
00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:54,500
that he didn't pass, that he had to

709
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:55,400
go through it three times?

710
00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:57,480
I thought the same exact thing.

711
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,480
If you had to go, hmm, he didn't

712
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:00,980
make it?

713
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,620
It's interesting.

714
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,000
I went through the police academy three times,

715
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,360
twice with the NYPD and once with the

716
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:05,920
Secret Service.

717
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,580
There is a crisis in training.

718
00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:09,560
It is not taken seriously in America.

719
00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:11,780
Well, he was last on this program in

720
00:24:11,780 --> 00:24:13,960
March of 2016, and the year since, he's

721
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,760
grown into an outspoken member of the right

722
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,700
-wing media sphere.

723
00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:20,120
Right-wing media sphere?

724
00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:21,460
Bring back MAGA Media.

725
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:24,000
The president, he often appeared on Fox, attacking

726
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,220
the Mueller investigation during the first Trump administration,

727
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,140
and adopted the philosophy that he described as

728
00:24:29,140 --> 00:24:31,220
being centered around, quote, owning the libs.

729
00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:35,080
Own the libs at every opportunity, online, at

730
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,000
the election booth, in your activism.

731
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:38,220
Don't let them up.

732
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,700
Own the libs.

733
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,700
Own the libs.

734
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,800
I have one more clip from this pooper

735
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,500
escapade.

736
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,540
Mr. Bongino gained a lot of traction during

737
00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:45,880
COVID.

738
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,560
This vaccine never had anything to do with

739
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,940
science at all.

740
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,120
Never had anything to do with COVID either.

741
00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:56,480
Man, it's the COVID vaccine.

742
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,580
It did not prevent the spread of COVID.

743
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,520
If masks work, why aren't they working?

744
00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:05,240
Because the left doesn't care if they work.

745
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,220
President Trump has certainly approved of his questioning

746
00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:09,960
the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

747
00:25:10,740 --> 00:25:14,480
Donald Trump was calling out basically a flawed

748
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,820
election for what it was.

749
00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:16,960
A flawed election.

750
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,240
As the chief executive of the United States,

751
00:25:19,380 --> 00:25:22,380
it's his job to question an election if

752
00:25:22,380 --> 00:25:23,600
he believes there was corruption.

753
00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:26,640
That's his actual job, to go and enforce

754
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,320
the laws, the president and chief executive.

755
00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,620
But when the FBI searched the president's home

756
00:25:30,620 --> 00:25:32,380
in Mar-a-Lago for classified documents in

757
00:25:32,380 --> 00:25:35,060
2022, Bongino went on Fox to condemn the

758
00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:37,060
very agency he is now being tasked to

759
00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:37,460
help run.

760
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:39,560
This is such an interesting statement.

761
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,880
Folks, the FBI is lost.

762
00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:45,400
It's broken, irredeemably corrupt at this point.

763
00:25:46,260 --> 00:25:49,140
The inexcusable raid on President Trump's home was

764
00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:50,460
a straw that broke the camel's back.

765
00:25:50,660 --> 00:25:52,600
Fire anyone involved in the raid.

766
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,000
I don't want to hear any more rank

767
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,640
-and-file stuff.

768
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:55,600
I was a rank-and-file.

769
00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:56,900
I saw stuff I didn't like.

770
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,480
I left.

771
00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:58,080
It's not hard.

772
00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:59,520
You swore an oath to the Constitution.

773
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:00,740
That matters.

774
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,680
If you played any role in this raid,

775
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:04,760
you should be gone.

776
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,500
That seems like a good thing, that you

777
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,600
want the guy who sees the corruption to

778
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,420
be in there, but Anderson Cooper makes it

779
00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:14,120
sound like, oh, he called them out.

780
00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:15,500
I can't believe he's going to lead them

781
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:15,840
now.

782
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,760
Everything's so bizarre.

783
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:20,760
Well, I'm going to go back to the

784
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,460
Oscars thing and this black theory.

785
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:23,300
Okay.

786
00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:28,120
Because the Met Gala's the other thing happening.

787
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,920
Did I miss it?

788
00:26:29,180 --> 00:26:29,960
Did it happen already?

789
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:30,820
No, no, it's coming.

790
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,760
Oh, oh, yay, I can still see it.

791
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,400
When is it?

792
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:34,000
What channel?

793
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,440
Well, I don't know what channel it's going

794
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,860
to be on, but the Met Gala's a

795
00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:40,660
little more ridiculous than the Oscars.

796
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280
And I have a report from PBS and

797
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,800
it brings out this new, they're going to

798
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,580
emphasize POC on the Met Gala by promoting

799
00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:52,160
what's called, well, play clip one of this

800
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,920
series here.

801
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,720
This spring, the annual Met Gala.

802
00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:56,360
Did you say cut one?

803
00:26:57,540 --> 00:26:59,440
Did you say play cut one?

804
00:27:00,380 --> 00:27:02,020
I said clip one, I think.

805
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,820
I thought you said cut one, like I'm

806
00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:04,000
a producer.

807
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,920
I don't have a cut.

808
00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:06,900
That's, I was confused.

809
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:07,420
Clip one.

810
00:27:07,820 --> 00:27:09,320
Play the first clip.

811
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,260
Yes, thank you.

812
00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:12,820
This spring, the annual Met Gala in New

813
00:27:12,820 --> 00:27:15,000
York City, one of the bigger fashion events

814
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,360
of the year will highlight the indelible style

815
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:18,200
of black men.

816
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,580
The Met's 2025 exhibition titled, Superfine, Tailoring Black

817
00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:25,300
Style opens in May and explores the emergence

818
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,500
and significance of the black dandy.

819
00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:30,460
We looked into the rich and complicated historical

820
00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:32,840
style and its relevance today.

821
00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:35,600
It's part of our ongoing series, Race Matters.

822
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,160
The black dandy?

823
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,260
So, this is more, a little more extreme

824
00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:42,260
than the Oscars.

825
00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:43,080
This is great.

826
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,520
The black dandy.

827
00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:47,760
So the black dandy, and there, I think

828
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,760
it's the second clip here that has the,

829
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,300
or the second cut that has the little

830
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:55,240
gem in here.

831
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:55,760
Let's play.

832
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:02,220
This is quite fascinating to me because, it's

833
00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:05,320
just because what are you guys up to

834
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,840
now?

835
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,960
Now, as you may have noticed, I always

836
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,280
have not one, but two wardrobe setups in

837
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,900
this office.

838
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,340
Growing up in New York City, Dandy Wellington

839
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:16,800
says he started paying special attention to his

840
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,520
appearance at an early age.

841
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,080
His style inspired by the Harlem Renaissance.

842
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,520
And the name fits his persona.

843
00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:24,880
He's a dandy.

844
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:28,520
Clothes tailored, hats pristine, and attitude refined.

845
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,200
It's a worldwide community.

846
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:34,000
So, I'll be inspired by people who are

847
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,420
in Paris, who are in LA, you know,

848
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,660
people who are in the Congo.

849
00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:41,600
There is such a connection to style and

850
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,960
also a connection to culture.

851
00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:47,400
You know, the history of black dandyism and

852
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,820
black sartorial style is complicated.

853
00:28:50,340 --> 00:28:54,000
It's wrapped up in migration and civil rights.

854
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Dandyism was first introduced to black culture during

855
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,040
the transatlantic slave trade.

856
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:02,060
Well-dressed enslaved men were seen as fixtures

857
00:29:02,060 --> 00:29:03,680
of wealth for their enslavers.

858
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,300
But tailored attire and wit also offered a

859
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:09,960
path for black men to imagine possibility and

860
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,400
power.

861
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,820
From 18th century England to today, it's a

862
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:15,520
way of being that has evolved with the

863
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,020
times.

864
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:19,280
The black dandy is a complicated figure throughout

865
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:19,800
history.

866
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,820
We spoke recently with Washington Post senior critic

867
00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:25,500
at large, Robin Givhan, who has long covered

868
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:26,520
the fashion industry.

869
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,960
There was, you know, this sort of early

870
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,800
idea of enslaved black men who were often

871
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,280
sort of dressed in fine clothing in order

872
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,800
to reflect the status of the enslaver.

873
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:44,080
And you also have black dandies who sort

874
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,920
of played with the idea of gender and

875
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,800
really sort of tapped into sort of feminine

876
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840
tropes, taking ownership of their body and their

877
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,400
presence, but, you know, embellishing it in a

878
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,140
way that signifies its value and its strength.

879
00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,240
I need to talk to Mo about it.

880
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:06,340
I looked at the Urban Dictionary, black dandy,

881
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,180
man who takes great care with his clothing,

882
00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:11,780
general appearance, but number two is flamboyant or

883
00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:15,060
effeminate male, regardless of sexual orientation.

884
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,920
I can see where this is a problem,

885
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,380
but this is the theme for this year

886
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:18,940
at the Met Gala?

887
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,040
Yes, this is the theme for the Met

888
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,380
Gala.

889
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080
And this is nothing new.

890
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,640
I mean, I think sometimes it referred to

891
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,440
as styling.

892
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,220
Well, Madonna had black dandies in her dancers

893
00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:35,260
all throughout the 80s and most of the

894
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:35,900
90s.

895
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,760
There you go.

896
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,160
And then you have, if you watch an

897
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,140
NBA game, they always like to throw the

898
00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:46,360
camera into the, you know, the walk into

899
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,620
the locker room shot, which has become a

900
00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:55,700
pretty standard fare, I'd say, over the last

901
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:56,160
decade.

902
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,340
And it's always, out of the whole team,

903
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,940
there's about two black guys on any team

904
00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:06,720
that dress like, you know, I would say

905
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,500
flamboyantly gay.

906
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,300
And- Are you saying my favorite sports

907
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:13,680
ball game is gay?

908
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,520
Your sports ball game?

909
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,180
It seems so.

910
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280
And so anyway, onward with cut three.

911
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,440
You can't keep doing this.

912
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Tell me more about that.

913
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,980
The idea that the black dandy aesthetic is

914
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:30,140
in some way a form of resistance in

915
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:33,460
that it challenges stereotypes about black identity and

916
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:34,320
black masculinity.

917
00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:38,200
For a lot of dandies, part of their

918
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,840
way of dressing is quite emotive and sexual.

919
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:46,120
And that breaks definitely some of the cultural

920
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120
expectations of black men.

921
00:31:49,660 --> 00:31:51,340
But at the same time, during the civil

922
00:31:51,340 --> 00:31:55,860
rights movement, the way that activists dressed was

923
00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:59,240
to reflect the degree of sort of respect

924
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,920
that they not only had for themselves, but

925
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,820
also the respect that they were demanding from

926
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:07,280
society at large.

927
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,420
For some leaders in the fight for civil

928
00:32:09,420 --> 00:32:11,580
rights, how they dressed was a critical part

929
00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:12,740
of achieving their agenda.

930
00:32:13,220 --> 00:32:16,500
Frederick Douglass was the most photographed man amongst

931
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,000
his contemporaries in the 19th century.

932
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,720
And he dressed up.

933
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,820
Anytime you saw Frederick Douglass, he was dressed

934
00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:24,200
up.

935
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,820
Curator Chantrelle P.

936
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,460
Lewis is the author of Dandelion, The Black

937
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:29,760
Dandy and Street Style.

938
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,960
In the 20th century, W.E.B. Du

939
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,000
Bois was very fixated on fighting racism, fighting

940
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
oppression through aesthetics.

941
00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:43,980
In a time post-Rayvon Martin, post many

942
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:47,080
different incidents of police violence in the U

943
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,200
.S., there was like a large mass movement

944
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,280
of young black people in urban areas, whether

945
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,580
in the U.S. and the U.K.

946
00:32:56,740 --> 00:32:59,920
and South Africa that began really dressing up

947
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,520
for themselves and for their own sense of

948
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,760
cultural pride and dignity.

949
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440
It's interesting they bring in Frederick Douglass.

950
00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:11,520
You would definitely call him a Republican and

951
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,020
a biblical scholar and W.E.B. Du

952
00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:14,480
Bois.

953
00:33:15,140 --> 00:33:16,380
Phoebe, it's okay.

954
00:33:16,460 --> 00:33:17,520
It's just The Black Dandy.

955
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,720
W.E.B. Du Bois is a communist,

956
00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:21,520
but okay.

957
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,680
No, but Frederick Douglass was a Phoebe Republican.

958
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:27,800
I might have to add Phoebe's a white

959
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,600
dog and she just can't handle all the

960
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,120
black talk.

961
00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:31,400
She's very racist.

962
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Some dogs are.

963
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,920
So I used to have a dog that

964
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,720
was literally racist.

965
00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:39,620
You did?

966
00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:40,740
Yeah.

967
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:43,760
I believe you.

968
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,620
You don't even have to explain, I believe

969
00:33:45,620 --> 00:33:45,820
you.

970
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:47,760
Like Elon's kid.

971
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:49,340
Hey, shh, it's okay.

972
00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:50,720
It's just The Black Dandy.

973
00:33:52,770 --> 00:33:53,750
Anyway, okay.

974
00:33:54,030 --> 00:33:56,570
So yeah, I know lots of black men

975
00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:58,270
who like to dress up, but they dress

976
00:33:58,270 --> 00:34:05,010
up in their Timberlands and very well-ironed

977
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:05,510
shirts.

978
00:34:06,170 --> 00:34:08,750
Even if it's a sports team, yeah, they

979
00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:10,190
look impeccable.

980
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:11,690
When I went to- They look good.

981
00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:12,889
They're looking good.

982
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:14,889
When I went to school for my three

983
00:34:14,889 --> 00:34:18,670
months at my alma mater, Salem College, my

984
00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:22,489
roommate Ty from Trenton, New Jersey, he showed

985
00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:23,650
me how to wash my clothes.

986
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:24,530
He says, what are you doing?

987
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:25,250
I said, I'm washing my clothes.

988
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:26,010
No, no, no, son.

989
00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:28,570
And he got me my own Tide.

990
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:31,389
You want this.

991
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:33,389
Got me my own Tide, showed me how

992
00:34:33,389 --> 00:34:33,909
to iron.

993
00:34:34,150 --> 00:34:35,870
So yeah, I don't understand.

994
00:34:36,050 --> 00:34:39,150
Why is this now the theme for the

995
00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:39,650
Met Gala?

996
00:34:39,810 --> 00:34:42,370
Doesn't everybody dress up nice for the Gala?

997
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:44,350
Yes, they do.

998
00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:48,030
Now, I was going to, we got one

999
00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:50,350
more clip left, and I'm not gonna use,

1000
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:52,949
I have to mention something, though, just because

1001
00:34:52,949 --> 00:34:56,110
I did the cut thing and you told

1002
00:34:56,110 --> 00:34:56,770
me to stop.

1003
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:00,910
Jesse Waters, on his show, I think two

1004
00:35:00,910 --> 00:35:03,390
or three shows ago, opened the show by

1005
00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:06,950
calling the show, it's Jesse Waters Prime Time,

1006
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:10,030
and he stupidly called it Jesse Waters World,

1007
00:35:10,270 --> 00:35:11,430
which is his old show.

1008
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:12,410
Oh, yeah, Waters World.

1009
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:16,050
And so Kevin McCarthy was one of the

1010
00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:21,730
guests, and he kept giving Waters grief throughout

1011
00:35:21,730 --> 00:35:22,550
the interview.

1012
00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:24,050
He says, well, I'm glad to be on

1013
00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:24,830
Waters World.

1014
00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:25,610
Wow.

1015
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:28,210
And then he gave him grief at the

1016
00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:29,570
end, saying, well, it was good, because I

1017
00:35:29,570 --> 00:35:31,370
haven't been on Waters World for a while.

1018
00:35:31,610 --> 00:35:34,210
And I'm thinking, what kind of relationship do

1019
00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:35,270
these two have?

1020
00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:36,190
You know?

1021
00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:39,410
McCarthy's on Waters Show all the time.

1022
00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:39,950
Yeah.

1023
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:41,190
I don't know.

1024
00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:43,790
It's very interesting.

1025
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:44,430
I don't know.

1026
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:48,350
All I heard was Waters saying to Pam

1027
00:35:48,350 --> 00:35:50,950
Bondi, did I congratulate you yet?

1028
00:35:50,990 --> 00:35:52,490
I don't know if I congratulated you.

1029
00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:54,910
And she says, not personally, but you texted

1030
00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:55,290
me.

1031
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:58,650
That's a little too close for comfort.

1032
00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:01,230
Yeah, it's insidious, is the word you're looking

1033
00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:01,590
for.

1034
00:36:01,590 --> 00:36:01,730
Thank you.

1035
00:36:01,810 --> 00:36:02,950
A little too close for comfort.

1036
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:05,030
Call it insidiousness if you must.

1037
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:06,590
All right, we'll continue.

1038
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:09,570
Throughout history, black style movements have been closely

1039
00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:11,290
linked to individual identity.

1040
00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:13,750
And with a style that's moved across the

1041
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:16,650
globe, every dandy is unique, each with a

1042
00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:17,890
swagger of his own.

1043
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:18,310
Swagger.

1044
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:19,870
You could have someone like me, who's very

1045
00:36:19,870 --> 00:36:21,590
much connected to the jazz age and the

1046
00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:24,910
swing era, vintage as the inspiration.

1047
00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:27,570
But then of course, there's also black dandies

1048
00:36:27,570 --> 00:36:31,330
that wear Ankara prints and black dandies that

1049
00:36:31,330 --> 00:36:33,950
use street wear as their, you know, node

1050
00:36:33,950 --> 00:36:34,670
of expression.

1051
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:37,770
There is a generation of black men, as

1052
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:39,770
you well know, who take such pride in

1053
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:42,730
dressing to the nines, a perfectly coordinated suit

1054
00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:44,330
with gleaming alligator shoes.

1055
00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:48,810
They would probably describe themselves as having swagger.

1056
00:36:48,930 --> 00:36:51,790
They probably wouldn't describe themselves as being a

1057
00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:52,190
dandy.

1058
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:54,590
How do you draw that line between sort

1059
00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:58,030
of exuding old school cool and being a

1060
00:36:58,030 --> 00:36:58,530
black dandy?

1061
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:59,290
Oh, brother.

1062
00:36:59,290 --> 00:37:00,870
I grew up in Detroit and I think

1063
00:37:00,870 --> 00:37:05,830
about some of the men who firmly believe

1064
00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,870
that if your shoes were not matching your

1065
00:37:07,870 --> 00:37:09,610
suit, then you were just sort of not

1066
00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:10,610
properly dressed.

1067
00:37:11,210 --> 00:37:15,630
And for some black men, just being seen

1068
00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:19,510
in sort of full technicolor is an incredible

1069
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:20,070
victory.

1070
00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:25,090
Well, I can't wait to see RuPaul at

1071
00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:27,350
the Met Gala.

1072
00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:29,850
I don't even know, what are they doing?

1073
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:32,130
Maybe it'll become clear when we see it.

1074
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:34,030
This whole thing, this is ridiculous.

1075
00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:36,030
And the thing is about this entire report,

1076
00:37:36,090 --> 00:37:38,830
they never once mentioned, they talk about it

1077
00:37:38,830 --> 00:37:40,210
as though it's some sort of a thing.

1078
00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:44,330
They never once mentioned the cost of admission.

1079
00:37:45,690 --> 00:37:47,530
I don't think you can even buy a

1080
00:37:47,530 --> 00:37:47,670
ticket.

1081
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:49,290
You have to be invited, don't you?

1082
00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:51,410
You have to be invited to buy a

1083
00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:51,510
ticket.

1084
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:53,190
Yeah, invited to buy a ticket, right.

1085
00:37:54,370 --> 00:37:57,010
Well, I'm asking you, what does it cost

1086
00:37:57,010 --> 00:37:57,650
to get a ticket?

1087
00:37:58,110 --> 00:37:58,850
Do you know the answer?

1088
00:37:58,930 --> 00:37:59,690
I'm just gonna guess.

1089
00:37:59,770 --> 00:38:00,590
I do know the answer.

1090
00:38:00,690 --> 00:38:02,410
I wouldn't be pulling the stunt if I

1091
00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:02,750
wasn't.

1092
00:38:02,810 --> 00:38:03,590
$5,000.

1093
00:38:06,270 --> 00:38:07,070
$75,000.

1094
00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:08,190
Hello?

1095
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:10,790
Well, any black dandy has that under his

1096
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:11,470
top hat.

1097
00:38:11,770 --> 00:38:12,910
Although there's a deal.

1098
00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:13,910
There is a deal.

1099
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:14,890
I bet there is.

1100
00:38:15,610 --> 00:38:17,450
If you buy a table of 10, for

1101
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:20,670
10, it's 350,000, so it's only 35

1102
00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:21,030
ahead.

1103
00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:22,710
Hey, we could do a meetup.

1104
00:38:22,830 --> 00:38:23,190
It's great.

1105
00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:25,130
I can't wait.

1106
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:26,410
It's our whole yearly budget.

1107
00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:31,090
So this is an elitist crock of crap.

1108
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:35,510
And they roll out the black dandies as

1109
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:37,730
some sort of dance monkey dance moment.

1110
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:39,990
That's what this is all about.

1111
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:42,950
The Met Gala is one of the worst,

1112
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:45,590
most- Racist.

1113
00:38:46,050 --> 00:38:47,070
It's racist.

1114
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:51,290
It is a disgusting product, and it's for

1115
00:38:51,290 --> 00:38:55,250
elites that can afford $75,000 to show

1116
00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:57,210
up and say, hello, give me a break.

1117
00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:58,730
Yeah, to be on camera and get your

1118
00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:59,610
picture in vogue.

1119
00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:01,410
That's what it's about, yeah.

1120
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:03,550
Yeah, that used to run it.

1121
00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:06,510
You know, PBS and NPR, both of them,

1122
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:09,870
I have another report later, they do not

1123
00:39:09,870 --> 00:39:10,910
tell you the numbers.

1124
00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:12,130
They never give you the numbers.

1125
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:13,210
I've never seen it.

1126
00:39:13,250 --> 00:39:15,090
I had to go research it to find

1127
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:15,290
it.

1128
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:18,130
It's up from $50,000, by the way.

1129
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:19,930
Wow, back in the day, the Rock and

1130
00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:22,150
Roll Hall of Fame dinner at the Waldorf

1131
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:25,030
was $1,000 a person.

1132
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:26,530
Those days are over.

1133
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:27,350
Seems like, yeah.

1134
00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:29,510
And there were no cameras.

1135
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:30,610
It was a much better deal.

1136
00:39:32,290 --> 00:39:34,550
Okay, I have to go into this topic

1137
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:36,390
because I have a little bit of deconstruction

1138
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:38,710
to do because there's all kinds of information

1139
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:40,870
that's all over the map, and obviously it's

1140
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:44,350
being played up to an extreme because of

1141
00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:47,650
RFK Jr. becoming the Health and Human Services

1142
00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:49,750
Administrator.

1143
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:50,230
Is that it?

1144
00:39:50,270 --> 00:39:51,210
Can I interrupt?

1145
00:39:51,850 --> 00:39:52,150
Yeah.

1146
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:55,290
So he's sitting there at the, RFK Jr.

1147
00:39:55,290 --> 00:39:56,990
is behind Trump in some event, and then

1148
00:39:56,990 --> 00:39:59,090
he was sitting at the table with the

1149
00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:04,530
table read that was called the Board of

1150
00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:05,130
Directors meeting.

1151
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:05,830
What was that called?

1152
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:06,870
Did they have the- Cabinet meeting?

1153
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:08,230
Cabinet meeting.

1154
00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:09,230
Or Board of Directors.

1155
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:11,650
Might as well be Board of Directors meeting.

1156
00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:13,730
Table read is what I still think it's

1157
00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:13,830
called.

1158
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:14,930
Table read, that's good.

1159
00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:19,110
So Kennedy's there, and he just never smiles,

1160
00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:21,250
and he looks uncomfortable.

1161
00:40:21,610 --> 00:40:24,070
He does not like being a Democrat in

1162
00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:25,250
a room full of Republicans.

1163
00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:27,810
I don't care what he likes to think

1164
00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:30,450
and he's gonna do whatever ass kicking he

1165
00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:31,470
does if he does any.

1166
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:35,710
The whole thing is like, this is a

1167
00:40:35,710 --> 00:40:39,230
genetically a problem for him.

1168
00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:40,570
You can just see it.

1169
00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:42,950
Well, that's the Kennedy mantra.

1170
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:46,350
I don't think JFK was the last one.

1171
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:47,990
Like, we gotta get rid of that guy.

1172
00:40:48,090 --> 00:40:49,110
He's smiling too much.

1173
00:40:49,810 --> 00:40:50,790
He seemed like he smiled.

1174
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:52,590
JFK had a nice smile.

1175
00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:53,770
No, he had a great smile.

1176
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:55,030
Charming smile, yeah.

1177
00:40:55,150 --> 00:40:57,510
Well, since you bring up RFK Jr., my

1178
00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:01,010
first clip will be about RFK Jr. Guy

1179
00:41:01,010 --> 00:41:03,250
who really actually- Sam, hold on one

1180
00:41:03,250 --> 00:41:04,890
sec, because RFK is talking about measles.

1181
00:41:04,990 --> 00:41:06,690
We just had the first measles death in

1182
00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:07,590
this country in a decade.

1183
00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:08,110
Let's listen.

1184
00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:09,330
Breaking news, breaking news!

1185
00:41:09,490 --> 00:41:09,930
First measles death!

1186
00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:10,570
Wait, hold on a second.

1187
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:12,810
I gotta stop again, because I have a

1188
00:41:12,810 --> 00:41:13,910
measles clip too.

1189
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:17,510
The first death in a decade, they said

1190
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:18,850
it's actually something like that?

1191
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:19,490
Yes.

1192
00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:22,570
I thought, we've been doing this show for

1193
00:41:22,570 --> 00:41:25,570
over a decade, obviously, and I kept getting

1194
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:28,290
the impression that there's, you know, because of

1195
00:41:28,290 --> 00:41:31,630
this lack of vaccinations, that measles deaths were

1196
00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:33,630
increasing and they were happening all over the

1197
00:41:33,630 --> 00:41:36,810
place, and now somebody in Texas dies, supposedly,

1198
00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:38,910
of measles, and this is the first one

1199
00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:40,930
in a decade, and all hell's gonna break

1200
00:41:40,930 --> 00:41:41,250
loose?

1201
00:41:42,010 --> 00:41:43,790
Have I been misled?

1202
00:41:45,310 --> 00:41:48,630
I'm kind of upset, because you're stealing my

1203
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:51,070
thunder, and I was gonna get into a

1204
00:41:51,070 --> 00:41:51,670
vibe here.

1205
00:41:52,930 --> 00:41:53,830
Oh, I'm sorry.

1206
00:41:53,850 --> 00:41:55,170
I was gonna get into a vibe, so

1207
00:41:55,170 --> 00:41:56,370
just hold that.

1208
00:41:56,490 --> 00:41:59,170
You know, this has happened more than once.

1209
00:41:59,410 --> 00:42:01,650
I say every five shows, I do this

1210
00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:02,170
to you.

1211
00:42:02,510 --> 00:42:02,970
It's okay.

1212
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:04,810
And I think it's the structure.

1213
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:07,970
The structure of the show, or the structure

1214
00:42:07,970 --> 00:42:08,070
of you?

1215
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:11,330
No, the structure of the way you set

1216
00:42:11,330 --> 00:42:12,190
up your gags.

1217
00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:14,210
Yeah, well, so I set up a gag,

1218
00:42:14,290 --> 00:42:15,430
and you're like, he's gonna do a gag,

1219
00:42:15,570 --> 00:42:16,270
let me out-gag him.

1220
00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:17,810
No, you set up the gag in a

1221
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:19,830
way that it invites me to do this.

1222
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:20,490
I'm sorry.

1223
00:42:20,570 --> 00:42:22,310
Okay, then I- It's your fault.

1224
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:23,570
You're out-gagging me.

1225
00:42:23,570 --> 00:42:24,450
This is no good.

1226
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:25,090
It's my fault.

1227
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:25,610
I'm sorry.

1228
00:42:25,730 --> 00:42:26,170
I repent.

1229
00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:28,390
The guy who really actually- Sam, hold

1230
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:30,090
on one sec, because RFK is talking about

1231
00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:30,370
measles.

1232
00:42:30,490 --> 00:42:32,150
We just had the first measles death in

1233
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:33,090
this country in a decade.

1234
00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:33,630
Let's listen.

1235
00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:37,530
Watching it, and there are about 20 people

1236
00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:39,310
hospitalized, mainly for quarantine.

1237
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:41,450
We're watching it.

1238
00:42:41,490 --> 00:42:43,450
We put out a post on it yesterday,

1239
00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:45,410
and we're gonna continue to follow it.

1240
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:49,970
Incidentally, there have been four measles outbreaks this

1241
00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:50,270
year.

1242
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:51,970
It's a little worse, that clip, than I

1243
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:52,110
thought.

1244
00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:54,630
But anyway, the point was, Katie Tuerr interrupts

1245
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:59,190
her guests, because we have a measles death.

1246
00:42:59,290 --> 00:43:00,970
RFK's talking about the measles death.

1247
00:43:01,150 --> 00:43:02,150
Let's go to NPR.

1248
00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:05,030
Health officials in Texas say more than 20

1249
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:08,050
people are hospitalized amid an outbreak of measles.

1250
00:43:09,070 --> 00:43:09,530
Hold on a second.

1251
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:11,090
First, let me just give you the definition

1252
00:43:11,090 --> 00:43:11,870
of outbreak.

1253
00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:15,830
The definition of outbreak is a violent increase

1254
00:43:15,830 --> 00:43:17,270
in activity or currency.

1255
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:21,710
That is the first definition as Merriam-Webster.

1256
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:23,650
We're talking 93 people.

1257
00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:25,250
This is an outbreak.

1258
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:28,110
Child dead, Dr. Wait, let's get the dead

1259
00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:28,750
child in there.

1260
00:43:28,850 --> 00:43:29,070
Hold on.

1261
00:43:29,230 --> 00:43:31,090
That has left one child dead.

1262
00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:34,630
Dr. Lara Johnson, the chief medical officer at

1263
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:37,150
Covenant Health in Lubbock says the risk is

1264
00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:39,810
low for people who have been vaccinated.

1265
00:43:40,170 --> 00:43:42,730
For those of us who are fully vaccinated

1266
00:43:42,730 --> 00:43:45,730
against measles, the risk, a lot of people

1267
00:43:45,730 --> 00:43:47,510
are worried about what's your risk in the

1268
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:47,930
community?

1269
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:50,450
Your risk is extremely, extremely low of having

1270
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:52,270
any issues at all with measles.

1271
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:54,950
The risk with measles is really for those

1272
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:57,650
who are not immune, who have not been

1273
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:58,230
vaccinated.

1274
00:43:58,550 --> 00:44:02,270
The CDC says 124 confirmed cases of the

1275
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:05,030
measles, mostly among teens and children, have been

1276
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:07,290
confirmed in the U.S. so far this

1277
00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:07,610
year.

1278
00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:11,950
This is- So if you're vaccinated, your

1279
00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:13,450
risk is very, very low.

1280
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:17,050
Whereas my understanding of vaccines has changed a

1281
00:44:17,050 --> 00:44:20,350
little over the years is that you receive

1282
00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:20,950
the vaccine.

1283
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:22,930
It has a dead virus in there.

1284
00:44:23,130 --> 00:44:25,630
Your immune system responds to it in a

1285
00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:30,390
less violent manner than getting the actual measles

1286
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:30,990
virus.

1287
00:44:31,830 --> 00:44:33,730
And so the next time it comes around,

1288
00:44:34,210 --> 00:44:38,550
your immune system will recognize it and will

1289
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:40,190
repel it and you're not going to get

1290
00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:40,390
sick.

1291
00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:42,830
But now they're saying your risk is low.

1292
00:44:42,990 --> 00:44:44,190
What is the risk?

1293
00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:46,470
Let's go to France 24.

1294
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:48,510
For the first time in a decade, a

1295
00:44:48,510 --> 00:44:50,550
person has died from the measles virus in

1296
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:52,250
the U.S. There are a dozen more

1297
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:54,770
in hospital with several in intensive care in

1298
00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:56,690
the outbreak spanning Texas and New Mexico.

1299
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:57,230
Outbreak.

1300
00:44:57,590 --> 00:44:59,110
And as you can see from today's news,

1301
00:44:59,250 --> 00:45:01,350
this virus can have severe and deadly consequences.

1302
00:45:01,970 --> 00:45:04,670
The patient was an unvaccinated school-aged child.

1303
00:45:05,010 --> 00:45:08,130
Over 120 cases of the highly contagious respiratory

1304
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:10,790
infection- Have been identified in Texas since

1305
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:11,450
late January.

1306
00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:13,830
In the U.S., vaccine hesitancy is on

1307
00:45:13,830 --> 00:45:14,330
the rise.

1308
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:16,630
The Centers for Disease Control said during the

1309
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:20,510
2023 to 2024 school year, exemptions from one

1310
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:22,790
or more vaccines among kindergartners in the U

1311
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:26,130
.S. increased to 3.3%. In Gaines County,

1312
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:28,990
Texas, the epicenter of the current outbreak, the

1313
00:45:28,990 --> 00:45:32,610
vaccine exemption rate was nearly 18%, according to

1314
00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:33,630
health department data.

1315
00:45:33,830 --> 00:45:36,850
If you're unvaccinated, if you're around someone who

1316
00:45:36,850 --> 00:45:38,510
has the illness, you have a 90%

1317
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:40,590
chance of becoming ill from the virus.

1318
00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:42,770
When we say the vaccine is 93%

1319
00:45:42,770 --> 00:45:45,330
effective- 93% effective.

1320
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:46,130
Hold on a second.

1321
00:45:46,770 --> 00:45:49,850
So out of 100 people, seven will get

1322
00:45:49,850 --> 00:45:50,370
it anyway.

1323
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:52,210
So what is this vaccine?

1324
00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:53,330
It's 93.

1325
00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:54,870
We've heard this before.

1326
00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:56,690
93% effective.

1327
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:58,610
That means, I suppose, if we took 100

1328
00:45:58,610 --> 00:46:00,510
vaccinated people and put them in a room

1329
00:46:00,510 --> 00:46:02,810
with someone with measles, almost all of those

1330
00:46:02,810 --> 00:46:06,610
vaccinated people, 93%, would not contract the illness

1331
00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:06,950
at all.

1332
00:46:07,210 --> 00:46:09,270
Health officials remain concerned- Wait.

1333
00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:12,430
Do they, at that point, would they explain

1334
00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:16,290
why seven people who were vaccinated, seven people

1335
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:18,230
out of 100, which is 7%, which is

1336
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:20,630
a high number, if it was a death

1337
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:22,630
rate of 7%, that wouldn't be good.

1338
00:46:23,550 --> 00:46:25,950
And so you have seven people that catch

1339
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:27,210
it and they were vaccinated.

1340
00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:29,710
Is there an explanation as to why the

1341
00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:32,370
vaccinated person would have caught the disease when

1342
00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:33,110
they were vaccinated?

1343
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:34,910
Did they explain that in that report?

1344
00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:36,850
Why are you making trouble?

1345
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:38,930
I'm sorry.

1346
00:46:38,930 --> 00:46:41,630
You're asking questions that shall not be questioned.

1347
00:46:41,710 --> 00:46:44,790
93% would not contract the illness at

1348
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:45,010
all.

1349
00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:47,890
Health officials remain concerned as more cases spring

1350
00:46:47,890 --> 00:46:49,250
up in New Mexico as well.

1351
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:51,910
The new US Secretary of Health, Robert Kennedy

1352
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:54,830
Jr., who himself has expressed anti-vax views

1353
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:55,790
in the past- Anti-vax views!

1354
00:46:55,870 --> 00:46:58,350
Said such outbreaks are not unusual, but promised

1355
00:46:58,350 --> 00:47:01,090
his department would continue to monitor the situation.

1356
00:47:01,270 --> 00:47:03,390
Okay, so we're getting closer now to some

1357
00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:03,950
information.

1358
00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:06,170
Now, the whole point of what we're supposed

1359
00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:10,050
to understand, and the meme is, first death

1360
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:12,010
from measles in 10 years.

1361
00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:14,350
Our chief medical correspondent, Dr. John LePouf, joins

1362
00:47:14,350 --> 00:47:14,610
us now.

1363
00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:16,130
And to be clear here, John, measles are

1364
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:17,030
seriously contagious.

1365
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:18,550
Seriously, yes.

1366
00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:21,770
They've been seriously contagious since I was six

1367
00:47:21,770 --> 00:47:22,370
years old.

1368
00:47:22,690 --> 00:47:24,250
Yes, you get the measles.

1369
00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:27,830
So infectious, much more than flu or COVID.

1370
00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:29,210
And on top of that, there's a double

1371
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:30,430
whammy, which is- Double whammy!

1372
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:32,230
There's a relatively long incubation period of 10

1373
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:34,930
to 14 days, during which somebody can travel

1374
00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:36,630
all over the place, even up to four

1375
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:38,490
days before getting a rash, and infect other

1376
00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:38,870
people.

1377
00:47:39,070 --> 00:47:41,130
On top of that, if an infected person

1378
00:47:41,130 --> 00:47:43,670
leaves a room, the virus can be floating

1379
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:45,730
in the air for two hours and infect

1380
00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:48,530
some unsuspecting, vulnerable person who then walks in.

1381
00:47:48,670 --> 00:47:50,310
So given all that, John, remind us again

1382
00:47:50,310 --> 00:47:52,110
of how effective the vaccine has been.

1383
00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:55,810
Extraordinarily effective, 96- Listen, he has different

1384
00:47:55,810 --> 00:47:56,110
numbers.

1385
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:58,270
Remember, it was 93 just a minute ago.

1386
00:47:58,270 --> 00:47:59,390
This is another question.

1387
00:47:59,750 --> 00:48:02,230
Why doesn't one of these reporters should say,

1388
00:48:02,290 --> 00:48:03,570
well, you know, that's funny you say this,

1389
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:05,830
whatever the number's gonna be, because I've heard

1390
00:48:05,830 --> 00:48:07,310
this number and that number and this number

1391
00:48:07,310 --> 00:48:07,490
and that.

1392
00:48:07,570 --> 00:48:08,250
What number is it?

1393
00:48:08,430 --> 00:48:10,450
Can't you guys agree on a number?

1394
00:48:10,990 --> 00:48:12,850
No, because we're no longer members of the

1395
00:48:12,850 --> 00:48:13,810
World Health Organization.

1396
00:48:14,070 --> 00:48:14,990
We don't have the data.

1397
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:16,550
You see, Trump pulled this out.

1398
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:17,450
We don't have the data.

1399
00:48:17,830 --> 00:48:20,370
Effective the vaccine has been- Extraordinarily effective,

1400
00:48:20,650 --> 00:48:23,150
97% effective- At preventing infection-

1401
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:23,290
What?

1402
00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:24,850
That last one said 97.

1403
00:48:25,150 --> 00:48:26,070
No, it said 93.

1404
00:48:26,590 --> 00:48:29,770
Oh, 93, right, with 7% getting sick.

1405
00:48:29,850 --> 00:48:30,690
Now it's 93.

1406
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:32,970
After two doses, and take a look at

1407
00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:33,670
this graph.

1408
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:34,190
97, yes.

1409
00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:36,650
The measles vaccine was introduced around- I'm

1410
00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:40,190
confused, 93, 97, it's not 100%.

1411
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:42,170
1963, that's when it was licensed.

1412
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:45,770
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported

1413
00:48:45,770 --> 00:48:48,550
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to

1414
00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:50,170
500- Wait, wait, wait.

1415
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:53,470
He said reported deaths, and then he said

1416
00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:54,410
reported cases.

1417
00:48:54,590 --> 00:48:55,330
Did everyone die?

1418
00:48:55,830 --> 00:48:57,630
No, he corrected himself.

1419
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:59,690
Oh, that was a correction?

1420
00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:01,150
Because it sounded to me like he didn't

1421
00:49:01,150 --> 00:49:01,930
correct himself.

1422
00:49:02,050 --> 00:49:03,850
But let's do- He said- Yes.

1423
00:49:04,450 --> 00:49:07,490
It sounded like he said reported deaths, reported

1424
00:49:07,490 --> 00:49:07,970
cases.

1425
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:09,790
Yes, he corrected himself.

1426
00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:12,570
Did he say, I'm sorry, it's not reported

1427
00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:14,310
- Yes, yes, yes, but you- Play

1428
00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:14,710
it again.

1429
00:49:14,830 --> 00:49:15,750
Interrupted the clip.

1430
00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:19,250
Vaccine was introduced around 1963, that's when it

1431
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:19,730
was licensed.

1432
00:49:19,850 --> 00:49:23,350
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported

1433
00:49:23,350 --> 00:49:26,110
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to

1434
00:49:26,110 --> 00:49:27,250
500 deaths.

1435
00:49:28,130 --> 00:49:30,630
Now look at- He corrected himself.

1436
00:49:31,290 --> 00:49:34,610
He changed- If you listen to the

1437
00:49:34,610 --> 00:49:36,310
actual flaw of what he said- Oh

1438
00:49:36,310 --> 00:49:38,130
gosh, John, who cares?

1439
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:40,450
You know what he's, yes, he made a

1440
00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:40,690
mistake.

1441
00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:43,250
Here's the reason I'm making a point of

1442
00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:46,250
this, because this just slips into the mentality

1443
00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:49,970
of the listener, this neurolinguistic programming.

1444
00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:50,650
Yes.

1445
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:53,430
He said 500,000 deaths.

1446
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:54,810
Yes.

1447
00:49:54,810 --> 00:49:56,770
And then he said 500,000 cases.

1448
00:49:56,910 --> 00:49:57,090
Yes.

1449
00:49:57,090 --> 00:49:59,650
He didn't go, 500,000 deaths, I'm sorry,

1450
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:02,010
I don't mean 500,000 deaths, I mean

1451
00:50:02,010 --> 00:50:03,130
500,000 cases.

1452
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,190
I was mistaken.

1453
00:50:04,290 --> 00:50:05,710
He didn't say any of that.

1454
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:07,350
No.

1455
00:50:07,490 --> 00:50:10,590
So he slipped into the public consciousness, 500

1456
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:12,090
,000 deaths.

1457
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:14,410
I don't think it was intentional.

1458
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:15,930
Okay.

1459
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:17,430
I don't think it was intentional.

1460
00:50:17,550 --> 00:50:19,530
It's not, it's kind of not the point.

1461
00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:23,890
The point is that it was a very

1462
00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:27,710
low percentage of people dying.

1463
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:30,670
If you have 500,000 and 500 die,

1464
00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:33,210
that's like, oh, 0.1%?

1465
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,260
I think it's, yeah, it could be.

1466
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,160
The measles vaccine was introduced around 1963.

1467
00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:43,340
That's when it was licensed.

1468
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,940
Before then, there were about 500,000 reported

1469
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:49,720
deaths, reported cases a year, and four to

1470
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:51,380
500 deaths.

1471
00:50:51,860 --> 00:50:54,180
Now look at that precipitous drop off.

1472
00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:55,520
You don't see something like that.

1473
00:50:55,580 --> 00:50:56,820
And so that's remarkable.

1474
00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:58,760
Now I do understand, there are people who

1475
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,800
say, and they've said to me, look, I

1476
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,280
want to get the vaccine, and I don't

1477
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,100
want to give it to my family.

1478
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,460
I'm willing to die for them.

1479
00:51:04,580 --> 00:51:05,360
That's the job.

1480
00:51:05,620 --> 00:51:05,840
For me.

1481
00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:07,680
But actually, when you say that, when you're

1482
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,820
considering whether to get the vaccine, think about

1483
00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,400
the fact that there are 17 million immunocompromised

1484
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,420
adults and two million immunocompromised children who are

1485
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,660
relying on you being immunized and getting that

1486
00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:20,760
herd immunity to not get infected themselves.

1487
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,980
Okay, so here he's giving it away.

1488
00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:26,500
The child who died, who we know nothing

1489
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,900
about, probably was immunocompromised.

1490
00:51:30,060 --> 00:51:31,280
And you can die from the flu.

1491
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,320
You can die from certainly any respiratory disease.

1492
00:51:36,020 --> 00:51:39,040
And there's a lot of factors that brought

1493
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,820
down measles.

1494
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,580
I'm not so sure it was just the

1495
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:42,020
vaccine.

1496
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:43,240
It's irrelevant.

1497
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,300
It's an outbreak.

1498
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,060
Lester, tonight the FDA took the unusual step

1499
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:52,000
of reminding people that the measles vaccine is

1500
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,300
safe.

1501
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:55,280
And it's got 50 years of science behind

1502
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,560
it.

1503
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,040
But the FDA is very concerned that the

1504
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,500
measles have once again emerged as a public

1505
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:01,120
health threat.

1506
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:01,600
Yeah, it's scary.

1507
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,540
It's not getting any better.

1508
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:03,080
Yes.

1509
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:03,440
Scary!

1510
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:05,860
And that was 2019, by the way, when

1511
00:52:05,860 --> 00:52:09,200
we had over 600 cases of outbreak of

1512
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,620
measles.

1513
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:12,740
This is 124.

1514
00:52:13,540 --> 00:52:14,360
And then there's this clip.

1515
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,460
Officials in Washington State confirming one woman died

1516
00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:19,820
during an outbreak of measles earlier this year.

1517
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:22,300
It's the 11th case of measles in Washington

1518
00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:24,800
State this year, but the first measles death

1519
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,780
in the U.S. since 2003.

1520
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:29,740
It's doubly tragic in that this was a

1521
00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:30,980
preventable death.

1522
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,780
That is 2016.

1523
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,040
So it's an outright lie that no one

1524
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,140
has died from measles in the last 10

1525
00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:38,400
years.

1526
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Because this is just, I just went on

1527
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,680
YouTube and just pulled up a clip.

1528
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:43,200
It's a lie.

1529
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:43,760
Surprise.

1530
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,640
It's a lie.

1531
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,380
Everything's, this entire thing is a lie.

1532
00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:48,280
So then.

1533
00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:50,540
But they can't get, what bothers me, here's

1534
00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:51,320
the problem I have.

1535
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,960
At least with the safe and effective, and

1536
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,540
that phrase we had earlier, chaos and confusion,

1537
00:52:57,060 --> 00:52:58,340
there was some coordination.

1538
00:52:58,580 --> 00:53:02,100
There's the lack of coordination with the percentage

1539
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,760
of how effective it is and how many

1540
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,580
people died and who died and when they

1541
00:53:06,580 --> 00:53:10,020
died and outbreak and all the rest of

1542
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:10,120
it.

1543
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,720
The lack of coordination on the part of

1544
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:18,980
the propaganders, propagandizers, is kind of distressing because

1545
00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:21,580
it's as though they don't even need to

1546
00:53:21,580 --> 00:53:21,940
do that.

1547
00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:23,720
They're just going to frighten the public.

1548
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,820
I think I can explain.

1549
00:53:25,260 --> 00:53:26,820
The reason why is it used to be

1550
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:30,140
coordinated from the CDC direct to the newsrooms.

1551
00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:33,340
Now it's coordinated by the marketing department of

1552
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:33,940
Big Pharma.

1553
00:53:34,660 --> 00:53:37,820
They're just saying, do more reports on measles

1554
00:53:37,820 --> 00:53:40,280
and not really giving them the coordinated message.

1555
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,700
They're just buying airtime.

1556
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:43,660
You know, because they want to promote vaccines.

1557
00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:44,300
Exactly.

1558
00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:46,560
There is nothing more tragic than the death

1559
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,020
of a child, especially so if the death

1560
00:53:49,020 --> 00:53:49,800
was preventable.

1561
00:53:50,140 --> 00:53:51,680
Preventable, we don't know that.

1562
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:54,140
With the death of a child in Texas

1563
00:53:54,140 --> 00:53:56,780
from measles, the first measles death in this

1564
00:53:56,780 --> 00:53:58,780
country in nearly 10 years.

1565
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,160
Measles deaths, even measles cases are rare because

1566
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,040
the disease is preventable with a vaccine that

1567
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,460
has been available for more than 60 years.

1568
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,340
There is an outbreak of measles in Texas

1569
00:54:09,340 --> 00:54:11,720
among people who were not vaccinated.

1570
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:14,400
That includes the child who died in Lubbock.

1571
00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:19,140
So I'm looking at the CDC chart, rate

1572
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:21,880
of measles cases and deaths in the United

1573
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,380
States, 1919 to 2024.

1574
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:33,340
So in 1919, reported measles cases 175.

1575
00:54:34,780 --> 00:54:38,000
I'll go to 1937, reported measles 647.

1576
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,920
Now the death rate was a little bit

1577
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,300
higher.

1578
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,200
It was 2.5, but in, so this

1579
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,260
measles vaccine has been available since 1963.

1580
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:55,420
They still had 110 in 1990.

1581
00:54:56,340 --> 00:54:58,340
There was actually a spike in 2019.

1582
00:54:58,340 --> 00:55:00,580
That's where that Lester Holt report came from,

1583
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:03,820
but the measles death rate is still 0

1584
00:55:03,820 --> 00:55:07,980
.1. 0.1%, what it's always been.

1585
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:11,200
And so there was an uptick in 2024.

1586
00:55:11,950 --> 00:55:14,720
It hasn't gone to zero, and nor have

1587
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,480
the deaths gone to zero according to the

1588
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,780
CDC data for whatever truth that is.

1589
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,200
So this is just a total hoax story.

1590
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,500
And to make it even funnier, the CBS

1591
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:38,940
guy sits down with this expert outside a

1592
00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:43,300
two picnic tables, 20 feet apart wearing a

1593
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:43,860
mask.

1594
00:55:44,020 --> 00:55:46,740
We're now seeing a very serious consequence of

1595
00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:49,060
what happens when we have measles in our

1596
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:49,480
community.

1597
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:50,240
Hold on, here we go.

1598
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,040
The first measles death in the US in

1599
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,340
nearly a decade happened here at Covenant Children's

1600
00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:56,700
Hospital in Lubbock, Texas.

1601
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,040
The child was school aged and did not

1602
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,420
reside in Lubbock County.

1603
00:56:01,340 --> 00:56:04,800
There are now more than 120 measles cases

1604
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,640
in Texas.

1605
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,160
About 20 children have been hospitalized, some in

1606
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,840
the ICU, none were vaccinated.

1607
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:14,420
Now health officials are racing to stop the

1608
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:14,780
spread.

1609
00:56:15,020 --> 00:56:17,560
We've talked to parents of little ones under

1610
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,800
one year old who can't get the measles

1611
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:21,400
vaccine.

1612
00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:24,120
What do you tell those worried parents who

1613
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,920
feel their kids are susceptible and they don't

1614
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,740
even wanna take them out?

1615
00:56:27,020 --> 00:56:31,840
It's important to communicate with your physician for

1616
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,840
infants, especially six to 12 months.

1617
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:36,520
So that population is a little bit different

1618
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,760
only because we can, in certain contexts, give

1619
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,600
the measles vaccine early.

1620
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:45,260
Before the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1963,

1621
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,020
400 to 500 people died every year.

1622
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,280
The virus is extremely contagious for those who

1623
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,060
don't have immunity.

1624
00:56:53,220 --> 00:56:54,880
I'm sorry that wasn't the mask clip, but

1625
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,300
here you hear the messaging, which is, hey,

1626
00:56:57,340 --> 00:56:58,780
we can give it to your six month

1627
00:56:58,780 --> 00:56:59,000
old.

1628
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Come on, people, there's an outbreak.

1629
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,560
On Saturday morning, she woke up with a

1630
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:03,960
rash.

1631
00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:05,160
This is the mask clip.

1632
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,400
Bow, bow, bow.

1633
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:08,540
Knowing the measles outbreak was near her home

1634
00:57:08,540 --> 00:57:10,680
in Odessa and that her daughter was too

1635
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,660
young to be vaccinated, Kaitlin Norris took eight

1636
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:15,900
-month-old Poppy to the ER when she

1637
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:17,560
developed a fever and rash.

1638
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,700
She also had the coughing, the runny nose,

1639
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,400
and the rash.

1640
00:57:20,620 --> 00:57:22,940
So she had a very good amount of

1641
00:57:22,940 --> 00:57:23,860
all of the symptoms.

1642
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:26,300
You're so sicky and you don't even know

1643
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:26,640
it.

1644
00:57:26,780 --> 00:57:27,620
Despite her symptoms.

1645
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:31,000
Excellent, excellent nap pop, CBS.

1646
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,060
You know you're sick and you don't even,

1647
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:33,840
it's beautiful.

1648
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,480
You're so sicky and you don't even know

1649
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:35,820
it.

1650
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,220
Awesome.

1651
00:57:36,220 --> 00:57:38,780
Despite her symptoms, Poppy's test results came back

1652
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:41,600
negative for measles this morning, but her mother

1653
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,540
isn't letting her guard down yet.

1654
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,400
She said the kid didn't have measles.

1655
00:57:45,540 --> 00:57:47,760
She was spun up and frightened by you

1656
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,540
morons.

1657
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:50,440
When you start hearing about this in your

1658
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,080
backyard, what's going through your mind?

1659
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,020
It's terrifying.

1660
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,080
I've heard a lot of things about how

1661
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,320
children have seizures because of the high temperatures

1662
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,940
of their fevers and brain damage and they

1663
00:58:00,940 --> 00:58:03,120
die and it's terrifying.

1664
00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:04,460
It's terrifying.

1665
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,700
Oh my gosh.

1666
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,380
Just remember everybody, no agenda is your actual

1667
00:58:08,380 --> 00:58:10,500
vaccine against this nonsense.

1668
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,280
Because in 1963, they came out with the

1669
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,980
vaccine and in 1980, we were laughing at

1670
00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:17,700
the Brady Bunch.

1671
00:58:17,740 --> 00:58:19,360
You all got it, including Alice.

1672
00:58:20,540 --> 00:58:23,440
And they went, ooh, I don't want a

1673
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,140
shot.

1674
00:58:24,220 --> 00:58:25,080
I don't want a shot.

1675
00:58:25,180 --> 00:58:26,460
Dude, who wants a shot?

1676
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,680
We get ice cream and comic books.

1677
00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:31,080
I just want to play, I have one

1678
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,940
clip on this.

1679
00:58:31,940 --> 00:58:34,480
This is from NPR or PBS, one of

1680
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,700
the two, but this is the Texas measles

1681
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:36,980
clip.

1682
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,520
And the reason I want to play this

1683
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,120
is because the clip you just played, not

1684
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,980
the one just before the one you just

1685
00:58:42,980 --> 00:58:45,820
played, which they said all, the guy says,

1686
00:58:46,020 --> 00:58:48,920
all of the people have gotten measles, all,

1687
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:51,740
the guy says, all of them were unvaccinated.

1688
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,420
Yeah, do we know that for sure?

1689
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,520
We don't know anything, but play this version.

1690
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:00,700
Other headlines in Texas, where officials announced the

1691
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:03,120
first death from a recent measles outbreak.

1692
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,080
They say the victim was an unvaccinated school

1693
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,640
age child who was hospitalized in West Texas

1694
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,380
last week.

1695
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:13,160
There are at least 124 confirmed cases of

1696
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,520
the highly contagious respiratory illness across nine Texas

1697
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:16,940
counties.

1698
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,060
They've been mostly reported among children, many of

1699
00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:21,480
them unvaccinated.

1700
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:24,680
Many of them, many of them, there you

1701
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,020
go.

1702
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,860
Yeah, well, it's going to be at least

1703
00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:28,440
7%, maybe three.

1704
00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:29,220
We don't know.

1705
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:30,400
I know it's a little disturbing.

1706
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,460
Because we don't know anything.

1707
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,560
So I'll just add on top of this,

1708
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,900
because we have to have more, more fear.

1709
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:40,500
And this is, this is the opposite of

1710
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:41,260
the Noah Jenner show.

1711
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,480
This is a public service to freak you

1712
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,160
out, to freak out family members of mine

1713
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,120
when they hear stuff like this.

1714
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,520
Bird flu continues to cause concern, not just

1715
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,260
because it's leading to skyrocketing egg prices.

1716
00:59:53,740 --> 00:59:56,700
Scientists are watching the virus closely and some

1717
00:59:56,700 --> 00:59:58,920
believe it could become the next major human

1718
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,520
pandemic.

1719
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,480
So they keep doing this and they're going

1720
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,060
to bring in a perfect guy now.

1721
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,460
I spoke to biologist David Merriam at MSU

1722
01:00:06,460 --> 01:00:09,120
Denver, who doesn't necessarily agree, but he says

1723
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,460
it will become a bigger concern if and

1724
01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:13,560
when we start to see human to human

1725
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,160
spread.

1726
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,620
So he, so she says he doesn't necessarily

1727
01:00:16,620 --> 01:00:18,340
agree, but don't listen to what I just

1728
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:18,660
said.

1729
01:00:18,740 --> 01:00:20,240
It said there, he's really concerned.

1730
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,840
He's concerned.

1731
01:00:20,980 --> 01:00:22,240
He's worried there's concern.

1732
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,900
Gee, it could, it could mutate.

1733
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:24,760
Anything could happen.

1734
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,660
So far, we really haven't seen confirmed cases

1735
01:00:26,660 --> 01:00:27,120
of that.

1736
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:32,220
But Merriam says H5N1 can trade genetic material

1737
01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:35,060
with the H1N1 virus in the body, which

1738
01:00:35,060 --> 01:00:36,700
would make it a lot more transmissible.

1739
01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:40,060
So somebody who gets, you'd like H1N1, which

1740
01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:42,000
is your standard flu that's coming around right

1741
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,280
now.

1742
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,140
Somebody gets that and then they're also a

1743
01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:48,080
dairy worker or a chicken worker working with

1744
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:48,960
H5N1.

1745
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,920
It's a chicken, it's like a sex worker

1746
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,440
for animals, a chicken worker.

1747
01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:55,280
You'd like H1N1, which is your standard flu

1748
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,460
that's coming around right now.

1749
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,360
Somebody gets that and then they're also a

1750
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,260
dairy worker or a chicken worker working with

1751
01:01:02,260 --> 01:01:03,140
H5N1.

1752
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,520
And now you have both of them in

1753
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,160
the same person.

1754
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,620
And that's where you start seeing a selective

1755
01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:09,200
pressure.

1756
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,500
And that selective pressure is the sort of

1757
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:15,300
thing that could lead to it being more

1758
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:15,940
transmissible.

1759
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,940
Oh, please, Doug.

1760
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:18,420
People.

1761
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,460
Yeah, that's why he says it's really important

1762
01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:23,260
for people to get vaccinated against H1N1.

1763
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,460
Again, we're talking your standard flu shot.

1764
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,620
There is a bird flu vaccine for humans.

1765
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,080
In fact, Canada announced last week it's purchased

1766
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,540
500,000 doses of the H5N1 vaccine with

1767
01:01:34,540 --> 01:01:37,740
the intention of vaccinating high-risk populations like

1768
01:01:37,740 --> 01:01:40,100
those who work closely with birds or cattle.

1769
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,360
They're testing the bird flu vaccine on Canadians.

1770
01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:45,620
Don't take it to Canada.

1771
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,040
That's what she said.

1772
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:50,580
Canada bought 500,000 vaccines of the human

1773
01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:51,740
bird flu vaccine.

1774
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,360
Don't take it, Canada.

1775
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,560
And so there's multiple angles to this.

1776
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,340
So besides the big pharma, of course, which

1777
01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:04,680
is the ultimate goal, there's an anti-Trump

1778
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,120
thing.

1779
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:06,640
Egg prices are rising.

1780
01:02:06,740 --> 01:02:07,940
Trump said they will go down.

1781
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,160
Egg prices are rising.

1782
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:16,020
And there's this very reminiscent of COVID of

1783
01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:17,800
shutting down parks.

1784
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:21,500
H5N1, avian influenza or bird flu.

1785
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:24,220
It's been detected again in New Jersey, evidenced

1786
01:02:24,220 --> 01:02:27,120
by the yellow caution tape, blocking off parts

1787
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,840
of Pete Sensei Park in Allentown Borough, Monmouth

1788
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,260
County.

1789
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,880
They actually have a helicopter shot of the

1790
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,380
park with it taped off with yellow police

1791
01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:35,760
tape.

1792
01:02:36,220 --> 01:02:37,140
This is terrorism.

1793
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:40,440
In the same town, Heritage Park has blockades

1794
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,440
and caution tape.

1795
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,260
It's where New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection

1796
01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:46,100
has found dead geese.

1797
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,340
Those animals testing positive for bird flu.

1798
01:02:49,340 --> 01:02:55,100
One of them tested positive for H5N1.

1799
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,840
The Burlington County Health Department is monitoring after

1800
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,180
deceased wild Canada goose found in Pemberton tested

1801
01:03:01,180 --> 01:03:02,500
positive last week.

1802
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,160
While there hasn't been any evidence of human

1803
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,000
spread locally.

1804
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,140
The cases that we have seen across the

1805
01:03:08,140 --> 01:03:12,940
country are primarily in commercial dairy and poultry

1806
01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:13,920
workers.

1807
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,740
Shoppers are feeling an impact of the bird

1808
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:18,480
flu in egg prices.

1809
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:20,260
It's my husband and I, we spend a

1810
01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:22,440
lot of time trying to compare prices, whereas

1811
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,140
find something suitable for home and not spending

1812
01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:25,660
too much.

1813
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,020
Our data journalism team found the price of

1814
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:30,700
eggs has jumped significantly in six weeks time.

1815
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:33,420
At the start of 2025, a carton of

1816
01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:35,480
large eggs was just under $6.

1817
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,920
Now the same dozen eggs will run you

1818
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,100
839.

1819
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:43,900
In response, restaurants like Waffle House and Denny's

1820
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:46,140
have implemented egg surcharges.

1821
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:49,860
And supermarkets like Costco and Trader Joe's have

1822
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:52,240
imposed limits on the number of cartons you

1823
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:52,820
can buy.

1824
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,160
So I talked to a rancher out here

1825
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,280
and he says, he doesn't have chickens, but

1826
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:58,980
he's a rancher.

1827
01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:00,960
He says, this makes no sense.

1828
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,740
He says, it makes no sense to vaccinate

1829
01:04:03,740 --> 01:04:04,460
these chickens.

1830
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,100
The natural course, which has happened throughout history

1831
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:12,540
is bird flu comes in, chickens get sick,

1832
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,380
some will survive.

1833
01:04:14,380 --> 01:04:16,460
The ones that survive, you wanna keep those

1834
01:04:16,460 --> 01:04:17,960
going, keep that lineage going.

1835
01:04:18,140 --> 01:04:20,620
Killing the whole flock is just dumb.

1836
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,840
That's what a lot of people say.

1837
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:24,440
Well, there you go.

1838
01:04:24,460 --> 01:04:27,380
It just encourages more bird flu.

1839
01:04:28,860 --> 01:04:31,980
Yeah, the chickens will self-breed bird flu

1840
01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:32,800
out of the system.

1841
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,800
But whatever you do, be afraid.

1842
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:37,700
We have a viewer question today.

1843
01:04:37,820 --> 01:04:38,720
It came from Facebook.

1844
01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:41,540
Diane wants to know, with the increase in

1845
01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:43,560
bird flu cases, is it safe to fill

1846
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,260
the bird feeders in my yard?

1847
01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:46,120
Such a good question, right?

1848
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,360
Because a lot of us have them out

1849
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,080
in our yards now.

1850
01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:51,460
The wildlife experts say that it's okay to

1851
01:04:51,460 --> 01:04:53,620
maintain a bird feeder in your property or

1852
01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:55,200
on your property, as long as you don't

1853
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,380
live near a farm or have domestic fowl

1854
01:04:58,380 --> 01:05:00,380
in your yards, things like chickens and ducks.

1855
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:02,440
Of course, you wanna wash your hands after

1856
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,400
you touch your feeder and you wanna clean

1857
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,760
the feeder itself pretty frequently.

1858
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,980
And if you see any dead or sick

1859
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,300
birds, you wanna call the Mass Department of

1860
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:11,740
Agricultural Resources.

1861
01:05:11,740 --> 01:05:15,300
Oh yeah, call your local authorities if you

1862
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:16,580
see a dead bird.

1863
01:05:16,820 --> 01:05:18,460
Don't touch the dead birds.

1864
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,700
It's not a good idea.

1865
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,700
Yeah, if you're in Africa, you'd eat the

1866
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:21,980
thing.

1867
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,620
All right, and I have a couple of

1868
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:26,900
NPR pieces on this because they title this,

1869
01:05:27,020 --> 01:05:29,060
The Battle Against Bird Flu.

1870
01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:29,980
Cut one.

1871
01:05:30,220 --> 01:05:32,360
Bird flu has been spreading in the United

1872
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:32,840
States.

1873
01:05:33,140 --> 01:05:35,300
Yeah, the first person to die from bird

1874
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:36,640
flu was reported last month.

1875
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,940
And two people were recently hospitalized in Wyoming

1876
01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:41,100
and Ohio.

1877
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:44,480
The CDC still says the risk to humans

1878
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,500
is low, but inside the poultry industry, there's

1879
01:05:47,500 --> 01:05:49,720
a fight brewing over how to take the

1880
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,960
battle against bird flu to the next level.

1881
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,540
Kate Wells of Michigan Public and KFF Health

1882
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:56,140
News is reporting on all this.

1883
01:05:56,340 --> 01:05:56,860
Kate, good morning.

1884
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:57,560
Good morning.

1885
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,840
Okay, so what are you hearing from egg

1886
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:00,440
farmers here?

1887
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,840
Yeah, they say that they are just flat

1888
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,820
out losing this battle against bird flu at

1889
01:06:05,820 --> 01:06:06,260
this point.

1890
01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:09,620
They are desperate for new tools at this

1891
01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:09,800
point.

1892
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:11,140
They see what they have been doing to

1893
01:06:11,140 --> 01:06:13,140
try to contain the outbreak just is not

1894
01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:13,580
working.

1895
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,160
I talked with Greg Herbrook.

1896
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,420
He's the CEO of Herbrook's Poultry Ranch.

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It's one of the largest egg producers in

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the US.

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01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,080
And in April, three of his sites got

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01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,680
hit with bird flu, one right after the

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01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,220
other, and he ended up having to kill

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01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:27,300
six and a half million chickens.

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01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:27,720
Wow.

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01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:31,720
The mental toll on our team of dealing

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01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,180
with that many dead chickens is just, I

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01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:35,540
mean, you can't imagine.

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01:06:35,540 --> 01:06:37,740
And they only have to kill them because

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the health agencies require it.

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01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,440
I don't think that's the choice they would

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want to make.

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01:06:44,460 --> 01:06:46,840
It's something, who is in charge of this

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,060
now?

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01:06:47,140 --> 01:06:47,780
Who's in charge?

1914
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,820
Who is the new secretary of agriculture?

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01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:52,000
Well, that question has to be, well, the

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,000
secretary, I don't know, but all those questions

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,020
that you just asked me right there should

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01:06:58,020 --> 01:06:59,360
have been in these reports, right?

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,160
Let's check out Cut2.

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,960
So he used the USDA tried and true

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01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:05,700
playbook here.

1922
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,340
It's the stamping out method.

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Right after detection, like within 24 to 48

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01:07:09,940 --> 01:07:12,680
hours, the whole flock has to be culled.

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01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,200
There's a bunch of cleaning and sanitizing, and

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01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,620
this is to prevent the birds from dying

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01:07:17,620 --> 01:07:20,000
really painful, grisly deaths, but it's also to

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,840
try to keep the virus- Grisly?

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,880
We're trying to be humane to the chickens

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,660
because killing them to eat is fine.

1931
01:07:25,660 --> 01:07:28,280
Yeah, killing them this way- Is better.

1932
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,940
Is better than killing- Give me a

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01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:30,280
break.

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01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,960
But it's not grisly, or is it?

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No.

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01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:33,840
We don't know.

1937
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,220
Yeah, I don't know, but we're doing it

1938
01:07:36,220 --> 01:07:37,320
to think of the chickens.

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01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:39,940
Birds from dying really painful, grisly deaths, but

1940
01:07:39,940 --> 01:07:41,920
it's also to try to keep the virus

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01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,780
from spreading even further.

1942
01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:45,860
And this works, like in the 2014 and

1943
01:07:45,860 --> 01:07:48,720
2015 outbreak, ever since then, farmers have put

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01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,520
in tens of millions of dollars in biosecurity,

1945
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,860
like employees showering in and out, lasers that

1946
01:07:54,860 --> 01:07:58,000
can stop potentially infected wild birds from landing,

1947
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,960
but none of it is working this time.

1948
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:01,920
Of course not, because it's dumb.

1949
01:08:02,260 --> 01:08:04,400
Flu viruses are constantly evolving, right?

1950
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,000
And this particular strain of the virus has

1951
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,460
gotten so good at infecting new species, not

1952
01:08:10,460 --> 01:08:12,920
just wild birds that migrate, but also more

1953
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,900
than 40 species of mammals.

1954
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:17,779
You've heard about dairy cows, but also dolphins,

1955
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:20,439
rats, skunks- And by this point, bird

1956
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,000
flu is just too- Bird flu is

1957
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,800
now in dolphins.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,439
I have not heard this.

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01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:26,920
By the way, you've got to dig up,

1960
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,000
you've got to start playing one of our

1961
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,180
jingle clips, the war on chickens.

1962
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:32,779
Yes, rats.

1963
01:08:32,779 --> 01:08:34,300
I think this is all part of it.

1964
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:34,660
Yes.

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01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:35,260
Skunks.

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01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,180
And by this point, bird flu is just

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01:08:37,180 --> 01:08:39,540
too embedded in our environment for us to

1968
01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:40,640
just stamp it out.

1969
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,420
I also talked with David Swain.

1970
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,000
He is a former U.S.- Who

1971
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,060
is this being bad?

1972
01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:46,779
He's one of the leading avian influenza experts.

1973
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,560
And he says, look, it's time for the

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,180
U.S. to try vaccinating poultry for bird

1975
01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:52,280
flu.

1976
01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:54,160
He says this is good as a tool,

1977
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,979
not just to reduce the virus in animals.

1978
01:08:57,300 --> 01:08:58,020
Here's Swain.

1979
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:02,620
But also a tool that reduces chances for

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01:09:02,620 --> 01:09:03,700
human infection.

1981
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,899
But egg producers, they will need the green

1982
01:09:06,899 --> 01:09:09,279
light from the federal government before they can

1983
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:09,819
try this.

1984
01:09:16,060 --> 01:09:18,399
The war on chicken.

1985
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,460
As a final 30-second here, what about

1986
01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:24,279
poultry farmers that raise chicken for meat?

1987
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:24,939
For meat.

1988
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,319
So they are very against this vaccination plan

1989
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:27,880
- No kidding.

1990
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,060
They could lose billions of dollars a year

1991
01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:32,279
in trade deals if the U.S. does

1992
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:33,560
start vaccinating poultry.

1993
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,540
And that's because a lot of countries, they

1994
01:09:35,540 --> 01:09:37,720
don't wanna buy meat from a country that

1995
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,439
is vaccinating any chickens.

1996
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,899
Those countries are worried that the vaccine can

1997
01:09:41,899 --> 01:09:44,120
mask symptoms in birds and that the virus

1998
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,040
could maybe get across their borders in that

1999
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,960
meat undetected.

2000
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,660
But the pressure on the U.S. government

2001
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:51,859
to do something new is clearly growing.

2002
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:57,860
Brooke Rollins is our 33rd Secretary of Agriculture.

2003
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,000
Hmm, okay.

2004
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,720
She didn't mention in this report, I don't

2005
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:04,460
understand this.

2006
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,440
We hear enough of this stuff so we

2007
01:10:06,440 --> 01:10:08,500
can get kind of a broad-based look

2008
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:10,440
at things in terms of the reporting.

2009
01:10:11,300 --> 01:10:14,360
And what wasn't mentioned is that the chickens

2010
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,800
who are the meat chickens, there's a different

2011
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,040
type of farming.

2012
01:10:18,140 --> 01:10:18,920
The whole thing is different.

2013
01:10:19,020 --> 01:10:19,840
They're not the same.

2014
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:20,940
No.

2015
01:10:21,580 --> 01:10:24,300
And they haven't had bird flu outbreaks in

2016
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:25,020
the meat chicken.

2017
01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:27,560
That's why chicken meat, you can go buy

2018
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,920
legs and thighs and breasts and the price

2019
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,540
has not changed.

2020
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,860
It may have gone down a few cents.

2021
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,000
Hmm, hmm.

2022
01:10:34,580 --> 01:10:36,580
This has been reported over and over, but

2023
01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:39,020
I guess it's been forgotten already.

2024
01:10:40,420 --> 01:10:43,500
I have a lot of clips with questions

2025
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:44,420
for you actually.

2026
01:10:46,340 --> 01:10:49,540
So we need to talk about oil because

2027
01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:53,440
there's a massive pivot taking place where people

2028
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,560
are talking about, now we gotta get back

2029
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,000
and it's not gonna work.

2030
01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:00,900
This green revolution is not happening.

2031
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,060
We haven't done it fast enough.

2032
01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:04,560
So we're gonna have to go back and

2033
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:05,720
start producing more oil.

2034
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:07,120
We couldn't go any faster.

2035
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,400
So this is the report about BP and

2036
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:12,100
others.

2037
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:14,320
BP's announcement sort of flies in the face

2038
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,300
of the direction they were heading in, but

2039
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:17,540
it seems that they're not alone.

2040
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:18,900
That's quite right.

2041
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:21,820
So when you look at BP's trajectory back

2042
01:11:21,820 --> 01:11:25,920
in 2020, they announced their net zero objectives,

2043
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:27,360
how they plan to get to net zero

2044
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,440
by 2050.

2045
01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:30,580
And it was a plan to reduce oil

2046
01:11:30,580 --> 01:11:33,600
and gas production by 40% by 2030.

2047
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:36,160
And the announcement was as well, no new

2048
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,200
oil and gas exploration in any new currently

2049
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,160
uninvested in countries.

2050
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:47,720
However, since then the tides clearly turned.

2051
01:11:48,140 --> 01:11:50,260
Profits took a hit in 2024, by which

2052
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:52,620
I don't mean it stopped being profitable, profits

2053
01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:54,420
were just smaller, dividends were smaller.

2054
01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:57,140
Oh, oh, oh, curse those rich people.

2055
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,240
And now they're calling a reset.

2056
01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:02,720
The new CEO has said, this is a

2057
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,580
reset BP with an unwavering focus on growing

2058
01:12:06,580 --> 01:12:08,000
long-term shareholder value.

2059
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:09,740
How does he plan to get there?

2060
01:12:09,940 --> 01:12:13,720
Well, the pivot is boosting fossil fuel investment

2061
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,480
to $10 billion per year, cutting what they

2062
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:18,640
call the transition business.

2063
01:12:18,740 --> 01:12:21,920
So that's all things, renewable EV batteries, also

2064
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,480
hydrogen, cutting that to just 1.5 to

2065
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:26,520
2 billion a year.

2066
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,200
And when you read the announcement, you look

2067
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,960
at the text of it, the words they're

2068
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,680
using for investment in these transition industries are

2069
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,040
things like disciplined, selective, focused and capital light.

2070
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,240
They're going to keep these investments capital light,

2071
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,760
which you might say is code for the

2072
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,840
absolute bare minimum.

2073
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,360
Yes, code bond genome.

2074
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,920
Okay, the question is coming, but first we

2075
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,920
have to hear that not just BP, but

2076
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,600
many other large multinationals are just giving up

2077
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:53,900
on it.

2078
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:54,780
Now, they're not alone.

2079
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:58,860
As you say, just last year, Shell announced

2080
01:12:58,860 --> 01:13:01,420
that they were reducing their green ambitions.

2081
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:06,040
They had planned a 45% cut in

2082
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,140
their carbon intensity by 2035.

2083
01:13:08,740 --> 01:13:10,920
The new CEO said that any such plans

2084
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,140
were perilous and scrapped them.

2085
01:13:13,460 --> 01:13:17,380
More recently, you've got Equinor, the Norwegian oil

2086
01:13:17,380 --> 01:13:19,680
company who used to be called State Oil,

2087
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,120
who rebranded in 2018, no doubt to part

2088
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,380
with that extremely fossil fuel heavy image that

2089
01:13:26,380 --> 01:13:26,920
they had.

2090
01:13:27,580 --> 01:13:29,920
They recently announced that they will be halving

2091
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,960
renewables investment in the next two years and

2092
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,680
upping oil and gas production.

2093
01:13:35,140 --> 01:13:38,020
The reason given, they don't see the necessary

2094
01:13:38,020 --> 01:13:41,480
profitability in these energies for the future.

2095
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,080
So this is a whole industry.

2096
01:13:44,260 --> 01:13:47,880
Unashamedly, you might say shamelessly putting profitability over

2097
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,100
all else, including accompanying the green transition.

2098
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:52,020
Yeah, good luck with your messaging.

2099
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,280
Oh, they're shamelessly putting profits up against the

2100
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,780
survival of human nature.

2101
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,420
So President Trump has said- The human

2102
01:14:00,420 --> 01:14:01,740
species, not human nature.

2103
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:02,520
Yeah, human species.

2104
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,200
So President Trump has said, drill, baby, drill.

2105
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:10,140
And CNN brings on some expert and talks

2106
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:12,820
about the types of crude oil that we

2107
01:14:12,820 --> 01:14:15,580
have in the United States and whether we

2108
01:14:15,580 --> 01:14:18,820
can actually, if we actually have the right

2109
01:14:18,820 --> 01:14:22,820
kind of oil to make our country run.

2110
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,080
And I know that you happen to be

2111
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,120
an absolute expert in this particular area.

2112
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:28,940
No, you're an expert.

2113
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,580
You're an expert, just- I am.

2114
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:32,100
Okay, and I'm going to- And I

2115
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:33,180
play one on a podcast.

2116
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:37,180
Yeah, so a podspert, if you will.

2117
01:14:37,540 --> 01:14:38,940
So I'm going to treat you as such.

2118
01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:41,880
Ladies and gentlemen, you have oil expert John

2119
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:42,020
C.

2120
01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:42,840
Dvorak with us today.

2121
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,560
John, I want you to listen to this

2122
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,880
clip and then I want your expert insight

2123
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:47,880
into what they're saying.

2124
01:14:47,980 --> 01:14:50,340
New CNN reporting this morning shows a problem

2125
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:52,800
with President Trump- Why are you yelling?

2126
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,860
Trump's vision of energy independence.

2127
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,700
According to the president, unleashing U.S. drilling

2128
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,460
would reduce gas prices, reduce America's cost of

2129
01:14:59,460 --> 01:15:01,500
living, and increase the nation's energy independence.

2130
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,560
CNN Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir is here.

2131
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,700
And the issue, as you report, is drilling

2132
01:15:07,700 --> 01:15:09,720
for what exactly?

2133
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:12,080
Yeah, have you noticed the president leaves facts

2134
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,040
out sometimes- Oh no!

2135
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,640
When he makes these grand statements about how

2136
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:15,940
we can just get off of all the

2137
01:15:15,940 --> 01:15:18,720
foreign oil that comes from Canada, Mexico, Saudi

2138
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:19,760
Arabia, these places?

2139
01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:23,220
One huge problem, not all oil is created

2140
01:15:23,220 --> 01:15:23,600
equally.

2141
01:15:23,740 --> 01:15:24,940
Let's talk about the basics.

2142
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:28,260
It's everything from sweet, light crude, which is

2143
01:15:28,260 --> 01:15:31,300
like the champagne of oil, down to heavy

2144
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:33,800
sour, which is more like wet coffee grounds,

2145
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:34,080
right?

2146
01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:37,160
This stuff is light and easier to process,

2147
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,760
and the U.S. pumps a lot of

2148
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:38,880
it.

2149
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:40,960
We use it to export, and it goes

2150
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,180
into kerosene and gasoline.

2151
01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:45,180
The problem is the country was built on

2152
01:15:45,180 --> 01:15:47,420
sticky coffee grounds over the years, and so

2153
01:15:47,420 --> 01:15:50,340
our U.S. refineries are set up to

2154
01:15:50,340 --> 01:15:53,000
process the heavy, dense stuff, the Albertus tar

2155
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,500
sands.

2156
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:55,240
The clue's in the name.

2157
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:57,280
It looks like sandy tar, and it is

2158
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,160
processed this way.

2159
01:15:58,460 --> 01:16:01,140
Meanwhile, along the Gulf of Mexico, a lot

2160
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:03,500
of these refineries can deal with more of

2161
01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:06,320
the lighter champagne stuff, and here's the big

2162
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:06,980
problem, John.

2163
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,080
We produce a lot more champagne than coffee

2164
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,180
grounds, exporting about 13 million barrels a day

2165
01:16:14,180 --> 01:16:16,580
of the light, sweet stuff, while importing about

2166
01:16:16,580 --> 01:16:19,380
half that much from these other countries, so

2167
01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:21,700
again, the idea that we could shut off

2168
01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:25,860
imports from Canada and not feel the ramifications,

2169
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,020
it would completely upend the refinery system and

2170
01:16:29,020 --> 01:16:30,960
would drive gas prices through the ceiling.

2171
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,680
It's just not what we're built for.

2172
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:34,840
Exactly, exactly.

2173
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:35,500
The infrastructure's not here.

2174
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:37,720
All right, I'm gonna bring in our resident

2175
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:38,920
expert now, John C.

2176
01:16:39,020 --> 01:16:39,320
Dvorak.

2177
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,300
He is a podcaster and a columnist, and

2178
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:45,500
John, we'd like to know, can we actually

2179
01:16:45,500 --> 01:16:46,980
- That is the biggest- Wait, can

2180
01:16:46,980 --> 01:16:48,080
we, I'm doing your intro.

2181
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,180
Oh, I'm sorry.

2182
01:16:49,340 --> 01:16:50,900
Podcaster and columnist, John C.

2183
01:16:50,940 --> 01:16:53,360
Dvorak, and John, what you just heard there,

2184
01:16:53,460 --> 01:16:56,120
can you give us some insight into whether

2185
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,980
it is actually the champagne of oil that

2186
01:16:58,980 --> 01:17:01,840
we can not refine or the coffee ground

2187
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,740
of oil that we can refine that will

2188
01:17:03,740 --> 01:17:04,780
keep this country moving?

2189
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:05,540
We go to John.

2190
01:17:05,780 --> 01:17:06,280
All right.

2191
01:17:07,140 --> 01:17:12,220
Okay, so here's, refineries can handle pretty much,

2192
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,820
except for refineries that are specialized in the

2193
01:17:14,820 --> 01:17:17,600
champagne style of what he's talking about, super

2194
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:22,120
sweet oil, which is like Bolivian, for example.

2195
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:26,880
Those guys, they set up shop to do

2196
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,740
that kind of oil because it's harder to

2197
01:17:28,740 --> 01:17:31,680
take this crappy sour, which means it's full

2198
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,120
of sulfur, is what that refers to, and

2199
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:34,920
it stinks.

2200
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:37,580
And you have to run it through a

2201
01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:41,200
more elaborate system to get the sulfur out

2202
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,440
and to crack it and to refine it

2203
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,440
in the cracking processes to break it down.

2204
01:17:46,340 --> 01:17:50,100
The sweet stuff, all refineries can take that

2205
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,700
stuff because it's easy to process.

2206
01:17:51,860 --> 01:17:52,940
You run it right through.

2207
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:53,420
What?

2208
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,480
And you bypass some of the cracking gear

2209
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:56,320
if you have to.

2210
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:56,520
What?

2211
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:57,360
It doesn't make any difference.

2212
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:58,900
It's the best stuff.

2213
01:17:59,020 --> 01:18:00,380
That guy's full of crap.

2214
01:18:00,900 --> 01:18:02,220
All the refineries, I don't know of a

2215
01:18:02,220 --> 01:18:06,380
refinery that wouldn't prefer nothing but sweet because

2216
01:18:06,380 --> 01:18:08,080
it's a pain in the ass to break

2217
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,160
down the other stuff.

2218
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,880
So, wait, CNN was lying?

2219
01:18:12,740 --> 01:18:14,440
No, they were ignorant.

2220
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:17,880
Let's go to another clip from CNN.

2221
01:18:19,940 --> 01:18:22,940
This is about the oil companies who, of

2222
01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:25,780
course, were all against CapEx and new investments

2223
01:18:25,780 --> 01:18:28,700
in drilling because Wall Street wanted to have

2224
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:30,480
revenue and not investment.

2225
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,380
That's according to the oil baron.

2226
01:18:32,740 --> 01:18:34,000
I will have to talk to him about

2227
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:34,340
this.

2228
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,300
Ken, how do the oil companies feel about

2229
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:38,500
these calls to drill, drill, drill more?

2230
01:18:38,540 --> 01:18:39,700
Do they feel like they can?

2231
01:18:40,180 --> 01:18:41,820
Well, it all comes down to economics.

2232
01:18:41,980 --> 01:18:43,540
The price of a barrel of oil, the

2233
01:18:43,540 --> 01:18:46,280
projections, you know, it takes 10 years sometimes

2234
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:47,920
to get a well operating.

2235
01:18:48,460 --> 01:18:50,320
And so they're looking over at China where

2236
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,260
almost half of the new cars sold are

2237
01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:52,680
electric.

2238
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,780
They're looking at oil demands around the world,

2239
01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:55,760
how they might sink.

2240
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:56,220
What?

2241
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:57,080
Petrochemicals, plastics.

2242
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:57,720
What?

2243
01:18:58,620 --> 01:18:59,260
What'd you say?

2244
01:18:59,300 --> 01:19:01,180
Half of the new cars sold are electric?

2245
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:02,440
That's not even close.

2246
01:19:02,580 --> 01:19:04,060
Maybe 10%, I think.

2247
01:19:04,180 --> 01:19:05,200
It's definitely not half.

2248
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,020
This is bogative.

2249
01:19:07,220 --> 01:19:08,780
Cars sold are, wait, let me get back

2250
01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:09,020
here.

2251
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:09,800
Electric.

2252
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,580
China, where almost half of the new.

2253
01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:12,140
Oh, China.

2254
01:19:12,260 --> 01:19:13,020
He said in China.

2255
01:19:13,340 --> 01:19:13,680
In China.

2256
01:19:13,780 --> 01:19:14,280
Oh, in China, yeah.

2257
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,060
It's true in China.

2258
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,400
They're looking over at China where almost half

2259
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,080
of the new cars sold are electric.

2260
01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:21,220
They're looking at oil demands around the world,

2261
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,120
how they might sink.

2262
01:19:23,020 --> 01:19:23,820
Petrochemicals, plastics.

2263
01:19:23,820 --> 01:19:24,020
Plastics.

2264
01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:26,000
All of those calculations are going into how

2265
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,500
they do this.

2266
01:19:27,060 --> 01:19:27,280
So there's.

2267
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,680
But what are the plastics made of?

2268
01:19:28,820 --> 01:19:30,160
Champagne or coffee grounds?

2269
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:31,960
You can make it out of anything.

2270
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:32,320
Okay.

2271
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:33,380
It's not a huge demand.

2272
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:35,540
There's not sort of, you know, he was

2273
01:19:35,540 --> 01:19:39,640
prom, these oil CEOs were promised complete carte

2274
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,340
blanche deregulation, but they're not exactly chomping at

2275
01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:44,620
the bit to open new wells.

2276
01:19:44,860 --> 01:19:46,560
And we're talking about wells, we're not talking

2277
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,360
about shale, or are we talking about both?

2278
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,600
Shale oil, big fracking boom has led to

2279
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,640
a massive spike in natural gas, which is

2280
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:54,900
a different kind of fuel, of course, and

2281
01:19:54,900 --> 01:19:56,580
a lot more of the sweet, light champagne

2282
01:19:56,580 --> 01:19:58,320
that comes out of those fracking wells.

2283
01:19:58,460 --> 01:19:58,560
Right.

2284
01:19:58,660 --> 01:19:59,380
You've made me thirsty.

2285
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,760
Bill Weir, thank you very much.

2286
01:20:02,060 --> 01:20:04,480
But you'll have to say that every barrel

2287
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:05,920
of this stuff that gets pumped and burns,

2288
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,920
most is closer to a climate crisis.

2289
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,200
And the alternatives are cheaper than the petrochemicals.

2290
01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:12,740
So something to keep in mind.

2291
01:20:12,780 --> 01:20:13,660
So there's that too.

2292
01:20:14,020 --> 01:20:14,920
In addition to everything else.

2293
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,960
No, no, no, no, no, no.

2294
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:19,360
All right.

2295
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:20,620
So they're full of crap.

2296
01:20:22,660 --> 01:20:23,260
Full of crap.

2297
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,160
I don't know what the point of that

2298
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:26,000
report was.

2299
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,500
Just to slam Trump.

2300
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:29,360
Yeah.

2301
01:20:29,700 --> 01:20:30,160
Well, no.

2302
01:20:30,460 --> 01:20:32,760
And the thing is that they never bring

2303
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,180
up, and I don't know why this is,

2304
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,060
because I bring it up, and it doesn't

2305
01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:39,140
benefit the Republicans, that's for sure, is that

2306
01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:41,680
during the Biden administration, we've drilled more and

2307
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,220
pumped more than ever before, the whole time.

2308
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:45,560
It was a lie.

2309
01:20:45,700 --> 01:20:47,440
Oh, we're going to move away from fossil

2310
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:47,800
fuels.

2311
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,420
Just the opposite happened.

2312
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,300
But no one wants to bring that up

2313
01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:52,360
because they don't want to bring up the

2314
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,500
hypocrisy of it all.

2315
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,080
They don't want to bring up the price,

2316
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:57,860
the fact that I think Exxon doubled, the

2317
01:20:57,860 --> 01:20:58,620
stock price doubled.

2318
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:00,900
Exxon is doing nothing but kicking ass because

2319
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:02,800
they never bought into a lot of the

2320
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,660
green stuff.

2321
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,520
And they just pumping oil out of the

2322
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,640
ground like there's no tomorrow.

2323
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,100
And the stock went through the roof during

2324
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:10,120
the Biden administration.

2325
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,200
But nobody even brings any of that up.

2326
01:21:12,460 --> 01:21:14,520
It's baffling to me.

2327
01:21:15,340 --> 01:21:15,820
What?

2328
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:16,640
Gambling?

2329
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:19,380
Please.

2330
01:21:19,900 --> 01:21:20,740
I am baffled.

2331
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,480
I'm totally baffled.

2332
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:28,320
Well, the baffling move is the unprecedented move

2333
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:34,000
that this White House has made by saying

2334
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,360
they're going to select who can be in

2335
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,640
the press room, who can be in the

2336
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:39,420
Oval Office.

2337
01:21:39,660 --> 01:21:42,400
Because as you know, if you can't be

2338
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,980
in there, you can't report to the American

2339
01:21:44,980 --> 01:21:45,440
people.

2340
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,520
Although I find that an interesting argument because

2341
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,600
as far as I can tell, it's streamed

2342
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,760
live on every platform known to man whenever

2343
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,940
there's a press conference and whenever the president

2344
01:21:56,940 --> 01:21:58,660
is sitting in his Oval Office.

2345
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,260
But this is very controversial and it's going

2346
01:22:02,260 --> 01:22:05,260
to ruin the geek party known as the

2347
01:22:05,260 --> 01:22:07,460
White House Correspondents Dinner because it seems they're

2348
01:22:07,460 --> 01:22:08,740
just going to have to fall apart.

2349
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,220
A select group of DC-based journalists should

2350
01:22:11,220 --> 01:22:13,660
no longer have a monopoly over the privilege

2351
01:22:13,660 --> 01:22:15,540
of press access at the White House.

2352
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:18,940
All journalists, outlets, and voices deserve a seat

2353
01:22:18,940 --> 01:22:20,740
at this highly coveted table.

2354
01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:23,080
So by deciding which outlets make up the

2355
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,620
limited press pool on a day-to-day

2356
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:27,360
basis, the White House will be restoring power

2357
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,820
back to the American people who President Trump

2358
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:30,900
was elected to serve.

2359
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,080
We can now bring in Jodi Ginzburg, Chief

2360
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,040
Executive Officer of the Committee to Protect Journalists,

2361
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,320
who joins us from New York.

2362
01:22:37,380 --> 01:22:38,400
Thank you so much for joining us on

2363
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,180
the program today.

2364
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,500
Your reaction to this latest move from the

2365
01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:41,980
White House?

2366
01:22:41,980 --> 01:22:45,780
This is a terrible move, to be honest.

2367
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:47,820
The way that the press pool works is

2368
01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:49,580
that those who are in the press pool,

2369
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,020
which, as you say, is a small group

2370
01:22:51,020 --> 01:22:54,200
of people because you can't have the 800

2371
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,940
journalists who are members of the White House

2372
01:22:55,940 --> 01:22:59,600
Correspondents Association all crowd into a room with

2373
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,980
the president everywhere he goes, they provide information

2374
01:23:02,980 --> 01:23:04,420
to everybody else.

2375
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:06,220
So all of the news about the president

2376
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,760
that people get from their local radio stations,

2377
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,400
for example, or in their regional newspapers, will

2378
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,020
have come very often from the press pool.

2379
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,460
And it's vital that those are independently selected,

2380
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,520
that they're not in the gift of the

2381
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,240
president and the administration whom they are covering.

2382
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,920
Why do this now?

2383
01:23:25,420 --> 01:23:29,260
Well, this has come, it's believed, in reaction

2384
01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:32,140
to something that the Associated Press, one of

2385
01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:34,820
the wire news agencies, again, a service that

2386
01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:37,320
many other news outlets use, I imagine including

2387
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,760
France 24, has done, it is said in

2388
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,560
its style guide, which is used by many,

2389
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:45,440
many news organizations, it will continue to call

2390
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,680
the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.

2391
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,960
Donald Trump has said that within America, it

2392
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,640
should be known as the Gulf of America

2393
01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:55,720
and has barred the Associated Press from the

2394
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:55,880
pool.

2395
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,600
And there seems to be an extension of

2396
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:57,800
that.

2397
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,580
What it is, is an attempt to exert

2398
01:24:00,580 --> 01:24:04,320
more and more control over the press and

2399
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,600
over the information that the public receives.

2400
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,060
So even though this was phone dads for

2401
01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:11,580
the people, actually, this is not serving the

2402
01:24:11,580 --> 01:24:12,460
people at all.

2403
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,820
It's not serving the people.

2404
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,240
It's not serving the people at all.

2405
01:24:18,900 --> 01:24:22,920
Why won't the, what bug or hair crawled

2406
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,060
up the AP's butt that they won't just

2407
01:24:26,060 --> 01:24:28,040
call it the Gulf of America?

2408
01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:30,800
I mean, why is this, why are they,

2409
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,480
to quote your phrase, dying on this hill?

2410
01:24:33,820 --> 01:24:34,900
Well, there was somebody obviously at the operation

2411
01:24:34,900 --> 01:24:37,240
and the higher up saying, yeah, why are

2412
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,620
we gonna be pushed around to be told

2413
01:24:38,620 --> 01:24:39,260
what to do?

2414
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,140
We'll call it what we wanna call it.

2415
01:24:42,340 --> 01:24:43,820
And the White House took offense.

2416
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,200
And the next thing you know, there's some

2417
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:45,900
snowballing.

2418
01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:48,360
You get to, somebody finally took a, I

2419
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,320
always thought it was corrupt that you had

2420
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,880
one group, one lone group, the White House

2421
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,480
Press Association, I guess is what it's called,

2422
01:25:00,260 --> 01:25:02,080
which used to be run by John Carl

2423
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,240
over at CBS or ABC.

2424
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,460
John Carl ran it.

2425
01:25:05,540 --> 01:25:07,860
He's a Trump hater and they get to

2426
01:25:07,860 --> 01:25:09,500
pick and choose who gets to go in

2427
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:11,000
there and what they get to ask to

2428
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,320
the point where they're almost scripting the questions.

2429
01:25:14,140 --> 01:25:16,060
And the whole thing is a scam in

2430
01:25:16,060 --> 01:25:19,040
some way and it should be open to

2431
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,040
any bloggers, anyone who wants to, who can

2432
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,240
find their way in there.

2433
01:25:23,580 --> 01:25:25,840
And besides that, it's like, you're right.

2434
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,300
It's being streamed.

2435
01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:27,560
Yeah.

2436
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,880
I mean, of course the AP can't ask

2437
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,080
questions if they're not in the room.

2438
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,140
When was the last time the AP, I

2439
01:25:34,140 --> 01:25:35,920
mean, how often does the AP ask questions?

2440
01:25:35,940 --> 01:25:37,240
I don't know, but I don't know.

2441
01:25:37,660 --> 01:25:40,360
It's usually, the guys in front, CBS, ABC,

2442
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,720
NBC, sometimes OAN and a few other people

2443
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,280
will ask the questions and I don't know.

2444
01:25:48,420 --> 01:25:51,580
I think that's making them, I think it's

2445
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:55,800
an association that had control and they lost

2446
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,860
control and now they're whining.

2447
01:25:59,080 --> 01:25:59,540
Yeah, okay.

2448
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:00,900
And you should hear some of the press

2449
01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:04,480
people that are, oh, they should, this spineless

2450
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:08,780
press, this is from journalists who are activists.

2451
01:26:09,420 --> 01:26:12,660
The spineless press, they should all walk out

2452
01:26:12,660 --> 01:26:18,040
and stop covering Trump because Trump will, because

2453
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:18,940
he needs attention.

2454
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,060
He's like a big baby.

2455
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,560
He needs so much attention that if they

2456
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,200
all walked out and didn't show up, then

2457
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,960
he would die on the vine.

2458
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,300
You're right, they are spineless because they'll never

2459
01:26:29,300 --> 01:26:32,300
do that because they know they're already mortally

2460
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:32,760
wounded.

2461
01:26:33,140 --> 01:26:35,680
The elite messaging system is completely broken.

2462
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,020
Do you remember the first, I was just

2463
01:26:39,020 --> 01:26:40,180
thinking about this the other day.

2464
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:41,680
See if I have a clip of it.

2465
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,260
When President Trump ran the first time and

2466
01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:47,960
he was a laughing stock, this was what

2467
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,560
was going on at the time, 2015.

2468
01:26:50,060 --> 01:26:51,340
We need to talk about this.

2469
01:26:51,580 --> 01:26:51,680
Let's do it.

2470
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:52,760
Because I think you guys have made a

2471
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:53,140
mistake.

2472
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,740
Yeah, so, I mean, nobody can deny that

2473
01:26:55,740 --> 01:26:57,280
Donald Trump is partly where he is in

2474
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,060
the polls because of the media coverage.

2475
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:01,540
And our big statement is that Donald Trump

2476
01:27:01,540 --> 01:27:02,620
is not a serious candidate.

2477
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,300
He's an entertainer.

2478
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,220
But you can't do that.

2479
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,560
You, along with the Huffington Post, Washington Bureau

2480
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:08,740
Chief, it's Ryan Grim.

2481
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,640
You wrote this month or last month explaining

2482
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,120
your decision not to cover the campaign of

2483
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,880
Donald Trump as part of your political coverage.

2484
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:17,540
And this is what you said.

2485
01:27:17,620 --> 01:27:19,760
You said, Trump's campaign is a sideshow.

2486
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,100
We won't take the bait.

2487
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,960
If you're interested in what the Donald has

2488
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,080
to say, you'll find it next to our

2489
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,860
stories on the Kardashians and The Bachelorette.

2490
01:27:27,860 --> 01:27:29,720
Okay, except- You remember that?

2491
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,260
When all they did was cover- I

2492
01:27:31,260 --> 01:27:32,140
do remember that.

2493
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,560
They made a big fuss about it.

2494
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:34,640
Entertainment section.

2495
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:35,860
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

2496
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:38,420
So, although that was Huffington Post, it wasn't

2497
01:27:38,420 --> 01:27:40,360
AP, but it's all part of the same

2498
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:40,840
system.

2499
01:27:41,340 --> 01:27:42,540
These guys suck.

2500
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:46,500
All right, I have, first I have a

2501
01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:47,900
little bit of outrage and then I want

2502
01:27:47,900 --> 01:27:50,340
to explain what's going on because it's just

2503
01:27:50,340 --> 01:27:52,540
marketing, but that's not what the view, ladies

2504
01:27:52,540 --> 01:27:52,940
here.

2505
01:27:53,180 --> 01:27:56,380
Yesterday, the White House announced a brand new

2506
01:27:56,380 --> 01:28:00,660
path to U.S. residency.

2507
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:01,480
Spit it out.

2508
01:28:01,620 --> 01:28:02,960
With an expensive toll.

2509
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,760
Selling a gold card.

2510
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,140
You have a green card.

2511
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,200
This is a gold card.

2512
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,320
We're going to be putting a price on

2513
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,680
that card of about five billion dollars and

2514
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,540
that's going to give you green card privileges

2515
01:28:18,540 --> 01:28:19,100
plus.

2516
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,520
It's going to be a route to citizenship

2517
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,700
and wealthy people will be coming into our

2518
01:28:24,700 --> 01:28:26,160
country by buying this card.

2519
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:29,200
They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful and

2520
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:30,440
they'll be spending a lot of money and

2521
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:32,140
paying a lot of taxes and employing a

2522
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:34,380
lot of people and we think it's going

2523
01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:35,660
to be extremely successful.

2524
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,820
Would a Russian oligarch be eligible for a

2525
01:28:38,820 --> 01:28:39,320
gold card?

2526
01:28:39,420 --> 01:28:40,220
Yeah, possibly.

2527
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:42,580
Hey, I know some Russian oligarchs that are

2528
01:28:42,580 --> 01:28:43,340
very nice people.

2529
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:44,060
No.

2530
01:28:45,380 --> 01:28:46,420
Oh, no.

2531
01:28:47,020 --> 01:28:51,880
You know, remember when Elon bought America?

2532
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:52,640
Yeah.

2533
01:28:53,140 --> 01:28:53,300
Yeah.

2534
01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:55,560
He could have saved money with this.

2535
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:57,700
The way that he talks about it, it

2536
01:28:57,700 --> 01:28:59,260
makes it sound like America's for sale to

2537
01:28:59,260 --> 01:28:59,900
the highest bidder.

2538
01:29:00,020 --> 01:29:01,540
I don't like that, but what I will

2539
01:29:01,540 --> 01:29:02,340
say, this is actually.

2540
01:29:02,540 --> 01:29:03,080
Wait, hold on.

2541
01:29:03,740 --> 01:29:05,800
Are we selling the country to the highest?

2542
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:06,480
Yes.

2543
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:07,720
Yes, this is.

2544
01:29:07,740 --> 01:29:09,780
I thought they were selling a citizenship to

2545
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:11,520
the country, not the country itself.

2546
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:12,380
No, we're selling off.

2547
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,180
Did I mishear something?

2548
01:29:14,380 --> 01:29:16,220
No, you heard them right, but this is

2549
01:29:16,220 --> 01:29:17,120
part of what they do.

2550
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,080
This is their job.

2551
01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:20,780
Expansion on the existing EB-5 visa program.

2552
01:29:21,180 --> 01:29:23,680
I have some questions because those are basically

2553
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,980
meant to incentivize the best and brightest to

2554
01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:28,220
come to America to create jobs here.

2555
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:28,500
Not true.

2556
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:31,260
To hire people, contribute tax revenue, but I

2557
01:29:31,260 --> 01:29:33,060
want to know, is there national security vetting?

2558
01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:35,360
So yes, could a terrorist organization or a

2559
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:36,380
Russian oligarch come in?

2560
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,540
And then just, again, don't make it sound

2561
01:29:38,540 --> 01:29:39,400
like we're for sale.

2562
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:40,540
Make it sound like you want to come

2563
01:29:40,540 --> 01:29:41,960
here because you want to be in America.

2564
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,520
Now, well, you said it sounded like we

2565
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,420
were for sale, but if you really look

2566
01:29:47,420 --> 01:29:49,980
at what President Trump has done here, it's

2567
01:29:49,980 --> 01:29:52,880
just a rebrand of an existing program and

2568
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,600
it's not unique to America.

2569
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:55,860
More on that plan.

2570
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,940
Let's cross live now to Fraser Jackson, our

2571
01:29:57,940 --> 01:30:00,080
correspondent in Washington.

2572
01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:02,560
So Fraser, we heard there from Donald Trump,

2573
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,140
Russian oligarchs may be eligible.

2574
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:06,200
What more do we know?

2575
01:30:06,540 --> 01:30:08,080
Well, as you heard there, Donald Trump said

2576
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,240
the immigration program, which he said was legal,

2577
01:30:10,620 --> 01:30:13,920
would be open to possible Russian oligarchs.

2578
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,460
He said that they could potentially qualify for

2579
01:30:16,460 --> 01:30:17,140
the gold cards.

2580
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,260
He said that he expects this program to

2581
01:30:19,260 --> 01:30:21,460
be up and running in about two weeks.

2582
01:30:21,820 --> 01:30:23,060
Now, it should be noted that there is

2583
01:30:23,060 --> 01:30:25,520
already a similar program in effect here in

2584
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:26,140
the United States.

2585
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,360
It's called the EB-5 immigrant investor visa.

2586
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,600
And if you remember during the first term,

2587
01:30:31,700 --> 01:30:33,100
Donald Trump said that he was going to

2588
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:35,580
be raising the minimum for that card from

2589
01:30:35,580 --> 01:30:37,440
1 million to 1.8 million.

2590
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,920
Well, that entire system has now been scrapped

2591
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,480
entirely and seemingly replaced by this gold card

2592
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:44,980
system where the buy-in fee is effectively

2593
01:30:44,980 --> 01:30:46,020
$5 million.

2594
01:30:46,580 --> 01:30:50,040
It's also not only a US kind of

2595
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:50,180
thing.

2596
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,460
We have seen this in multiple other countries

2597
01:30:52,460 --> 01:30:53,000
around the world.

2598
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:53,860
It exists in Canada.

2599
01:30:54,020 --> 01:30:56,280
It also exists in places closer to home

2600
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,880
in the UK, sorry, in the EU rather,

2601
01:30:59,340 --> 01:31:01,680
like places like Spain, Portugal, and Malta as

2602
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:01,800
well.

2603
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,740
So nothing completely new here from Donald Trump,

2604
01:31:04,820 --> 01:31:07,600
effectively just raising the bar that it costs

2605
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,900
to get into the United States.

2606
01:31:08,900 --> 01:31:10,660
But the land about the oligarchy will likely

2607
01:31:10,660 --> 01:31:13,420
be picked up upon by the more progressive

2608
01:31:13,420 --> 01:31:15,780
parts of the United States political spectrum.

2609
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:16,740
Yeah, like The View.

2610
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:17,640
Exactly.

2611
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,180
It's an existing program.

2612
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:21,900
It's called the EBM, I think EBM-5.

2613
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:24,760
And not like Sonny Hostin said is based

2614
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:25,260
on merit.

2615
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,140
No, it was about a million bucks, million

2616
01:31:27,140 --> 01:31:27,620
and a half.

2617
01:31:27,980 --> 01:31:30,080
And he's just rebranded it to the gold

2618
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,400
card and called it five.

2619
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,600
Yeah, he added some money to it.

2620
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,140
This has been going on in Canada forever

2621
01:31:36,140 --> 01:31:39,100
during the 1997 Hong Kong turnover.

2622
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:40,560
I think Australia too.

2623
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,780
The Hong Kongers were moving to Canada, especially

2624
01:31:42,780 --> 01:31:44,340
BC, like by the dozens.

2625
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:46,160
And I think it was only $250,000.

2626
01:31:47,300 --> 01:31:48,340
You know what Trump should do?

2627
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,160
If I were the president, I would say,

2628
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,900
you have the green card.

2629
01:31:52,060 --> 01:31:54,040
We all know that's hard to come by.

2630
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:55,300
You have the gold card.

2631
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,640
And then you can get the USA Plus

2632
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:58,180
bundle.

2633
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:01,160
Platinum card too.

2634
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,360
Platinum, you get a tote bag.

2635
01:32:04,420 --> 01:32:04,940
You get a tour.

2636
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:05,220
Tote bag.

2637
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:06,560
You get a tour of the White House

2638
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,460
and you get a newsletter.

2639
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,160
That would be, he should keep going with

2640
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:11,300
that.

2641
01:32:11,420 --> 01:32:12,940
It's very entertaining.

2642
01:32:13,700 --> 01:32:15,340
And we're all upset about it.

2643
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:19,100
How can we do four more years of

2644
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:19,300
this?

2645
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,840
I don't know if I can handle this

2646
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:21,580
media.

2647
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,000
They're so out of control.

2648
01:32:24,220 --> 01:32:25,660
They're so charged up.

2649
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,560
They're gonna have to, I hate to use

2650
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:28,400
the word, I'm gonna use it.

2651
01:32:28,900 --> 01:32:30,100
They're gonna have to pivot.

2652
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:32,700
Why would they?

2653
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:34,920
Because they're succeeding.

2654
01:32:35,300 --> 01:32:35,720
They're succeeding.

2655
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:36,180
I'll tell you.

2656
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:38,160
Yes.

2657
01:32:39,220 --> 01:32:43,300
Because if they have their asses handed to

2658
01:32:43,300 --> 01:32:46,140
them and in the midterms, they're gonna have

2659
01:32:46,140 --> 01:32:46,580
to pivot.

2660
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:49,920
I mean, there's some signs of it now

2661
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,480
with the so-called middle range Democrats, mid

2662
01:32:53,480 --> 01:32:55,640
-road Democrats, whatever they wanna call themselves.

2663
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,140
I will, I should play this clip.

2664
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,200
This is not the same.

2665
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,260
It's kind of the same kind of thing.

2666
01:33:03,340 --> 01:33:05,240
There's a group that's just started up.

2667
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:10,760
If you remember the Lincoln Project and some

2668
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,680
of these Trump haters, these Republicans.

2669
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:14,840
Well, there's a new group that just started

2670
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,320
up and there's this, I got a very

2671
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,060
short one-minute clip, less than a minute

2672
01:33:18,060 --> 01:33:20,580
about it from NPR.

2673
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,380
And they just had their first conference.

2674
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,180
It's called Principles First.

2675
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,160
And this is, wait, wait, wait.

2676
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:28,900
Yep, waiting.

2677
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:34,180
Principles First is conservative Republicans who believe in

2678
01:33:34,180 --> 01:33:38,520
the old Barry Goldwater style, conservatism, real republicanism.

2679
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,040
They don't like what Trump's done to the

2680
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:40,380
party.

2681
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,300
They wanna go back to the old ways,

2682
01:33:43,340 --> 01:33:46,700
the old ways from 1964, none dare call

2683
01:33:46,700 --> 01:33:48,240
it treason era.

2684
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:52,400
And so they've put together, it's just a

2685
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:53,980
bunch of Trump haters, let's face it, because

2686
01:33:53,980 --> 01:33:55,180
most of the guys who were in that

2687
01:33:55,180 --> 01:34:01,680
period were- Haters United, THU, just do

2688
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:02,920
it, just call it what it is.

2689
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,340
I agree, anyway, here's the clip.

2690
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,080
Former Republican U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales

2691
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,620
says President Trump's decision to pardon January 6th

2692
01:34:13,620 --> 01:34:16,880
rioters is a betrayal of the American justice

2693
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:17,500
system.

2694
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,540
NPR's Sarah McCammon reports, Gonzales made the comments

2695
01:34:21,540 --> 01:34:24,540
during a gathering of anti-Trump conservatives in

2696
01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:27,440
Washington, D.C. Alberto Gonzales served as White

2697
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:30,240
House Counsel and then United States Attorney General

2698
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:31,920
under President George W.

2699
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:32,380
Bush.

2700
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,520
Speaking at the Principles First Summit in Washington,

2701
01:34:35,740 --> 01:34:39,940
D.C., Gonzales criticized several Trump administration decisions.

2702
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,960
It is a betrayal to the men and

2703
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,660
women at the Department of Justice who were

2704
01:34:44,660 --> 01:34:50,360
fired because they participated in the prosecution of

2705
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:51,880
the January 6th rioters.

2706
01:34:52,300 --> 01:34:54,560
Gonzales went on to criticize Trump's decision to

2707
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,520
pardon some 1,500 people convicted in connection

2708
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,920
with the attack on the Capitol in 2021.

2709
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:02,980
He said the president has that power under

2710
01:35:02,980 --> 01:35:05,140
the law, but said it was, quote, the

2711
01:35:05,140 --> 01:35:06,140
wrong thing to do.

2712
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:07,280
Okay.

2713
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,440
Well, that's about all they had to report

2714
01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:12,380
on it, but this has been, this little

2715
01:35:12,380 --> 01:35:14,580
operation is something to keep an eye on.

2716
01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:16,660
And what are they called again?

2717
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:18,420
Principles First.

2718
01:35:18,540 --> 01:35:19,420
Principles First.

2719
01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:22,320
They're the high school principals, which it seems

2720
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,580
is what they're kind of thinking like, but

2721
01:35:24,580 --> 01:35:28,780
they mean the principles of true conservatism versus

2722
01:35:28,780 --> 01:35:29,780
Trumpism.

2723
01:35:30,340 --> 01:35:32,920
And they think that, you know, Trump's a

2724
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:33,500
bad guy.

2725
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:34,560
Yeah, no, he's horrible.

2726
01:35:35,900 --> 01:35:38,120
So I want to go to Doge for

2727
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,600
a second, because I do have a question

2728
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,700
for you as a former government employee.

2729
01:35:44,660 --> 01:35:47,280
But first, probably for one of the last

2730
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,960
times, and we did see her crying on

2731
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:50,540
TikTok.

2732
01:35:50,540 --> 01:35:53,180
Did you see Joy Reid crying on TikTok?

2733
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:55,440
Oh, everybody saw Joy Reid crying on TikTok.

2734
01:35:55,660 --> 01:35:57,320
My best is the side-by-side where

2735
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,580
she, they have a clip of her ridiculing

2736
01:36:00,580 --> 01:36:01,720
people who cry.

2737
01:36:03,620 --> 01:36:05,200
And then her crying.

2738
01:36:05,300 --> 01:36:06,060
I feel bad for her.

2739
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:07,360
So I'm not going to play that, but

2740
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,500
I'm going to play one of her, I

2741
01:36:09,500 --> 01:36:10,960
think her last show was this Friday.

2742
01:36:11,380 --> 01:36:15,000
So here she is on the resistance Americans,

2743
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,580
America finding ways to resist, resist Doge.

2744
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:19,660
This regime.

2745
01:36:19,660 --> 01:36:20,560
Regime.

2746
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,440
That we find ourselves living under is producing

2747
01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:25,480
massive chaos and trauma in the lives of

2748
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:27,020
federal workers and in the country.

2749
01:36:27,020 --> 01:36:28,000
Chaos and trauma, no good.

2750
01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:29,780
Yeah, we can't have trauma.

2751
01:36:30,020 --> 01:36:31,240
Workers and in the country.

2752
01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:33,220
Just look at this latest round of protests

2753
01:36:33,220 --> 01:36:35,540
at Tesla dealerships, at town halls.

2754
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:38,620
America is resisting in large ways and small.

2755
01:36:38,940 --> 01:36:41,820
America is saying no to Elon Musk running

2756
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:42,080
us.

2757
01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:44,560
We do not want him in charge, period.

2758
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,320
And Donald Trump, the guy who handed his

2759
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,020
biggest donor, the keys to the whole federal

2760
01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:51,260
government for him to do whatever he pleases

2761
01:36:51,260 --> 01:36:53,980
with it is underwater in every single poll.

2762
01:36:54,180 --> 01:36:56,160
From Gallup to the Washington Post, to CNN,

2763
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:56,760
to Reuters.

2764
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:57,780
You name it.

2765
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:00,540
Other than his man, nobody wants this chaos.

2766
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,660
Well, since you brought that up, I think

2767
01:37:03,660 --> 01:37:04,460
it's hilarious.

2768
01:37:05,420 --> 01:37:06,720
Ah, do I have it here?

2769
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,980
I had a clip of CNN talking about,

2770
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:11,940
cause you know, they have a poll now.

2771
01:37:12,020 --> 01:37:12,940
They've got all kinds of polls.

2772
01:37:13,020 --> 01:37:14,900
But let me finish with Joy Reid because

2773
01:37:14,900 --> 01:37:19,300
she mentioned some blatant anti-Trump news organizations

2774
01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:21,880
there and they have their polls and all

2775
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:22,780
the country hates it.

2776
01:37:22,860 --> 01:37:24,460
We resist it, large and small.

2777
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,040
Everyone, no, we don't want Elon running anything.

2778
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:27,420
No.

2779
01:37:27,620 --> 01:37:30,040
Give me an assessment from your expert point

2780
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,160
of view of the resistance that we're seeing

2781
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,940
in the country to all of the doge

2782
01:37:34,940 --> 01:37:36,860
Elon Musk, Trump chaos.

2783
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,380
Yeah, so as we know, we don't have

2784
01:37:40,380 --> 01:37:43,600
a big generalized nonviolent mass protest, but we

2785
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:47,940
have righteous indignation of breaking out spontaneously.

2786
01:37:48,500 --> 01:37:49,840
Righteous indignation.

2787
01:37:49,860 --> 01:37:51,480
There's a couple of terms coming up, right?

2788
01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:52,940
Like righteous indignation.

2789
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:53,540
That's a good one.

2790
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,460
Indignation of breaking out spontaneously all over the

2791
01:37:57,460 --> 01:37:57,820
nation.

2792
01:37:58,380 --> 01:38:00,440
And Joy, I really believe that there's a

2793
01:38:00,440 --> 01:38:03,400
reckoning that's going to come because what's happening

2794
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,440
now at the hands of literally the world's

2795
01:38:06,440 --> 01:38:09,840
richest man who has taken control of our

2796
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,760
government and is using it to enrich himself

2797
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,240
and investigating, he's destroying agencies that have been

2798
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:17,560
investigating his companies.

2799
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:22,500
This brings forth such, it brings to a

2800
01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:25,980
peak all of the unfairness of neoliberalism, all

2801
01:38:25,980 --> 01:38:29,100
of the kind of the rich get richer

2802
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:31,400
and that's one part of authoritarianism.

2803
01:38:31,700 --> 01:38:34,700
It's more, fewer rights for the many and

2804
01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:36,280
way more liberties for the few.

2805
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:41,180
And so we're seeing a kind of indignation

2806
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:47,160
and anger that's erupting at local town halls

2807
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:51,300
in front of GOP members of Congress in

2808
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:52,300
their town halls.

2809
01:38:52,660 --> 01:38:54,920
And so this is a very good sign

2810
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,640
of something larger that I believe will come.

2811
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,040
All right, so now is the term that

2812
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,360
I'm sure you know more about than most.

2813
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:04,360
As Elon Musk and the Department of Government

2814
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,160
Efficiency and the Trump administration more broadly make

2815
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,980
efforts to reform government and eliminate needless waste,

2816
01:39:10,060 --> 01:39:12,940
fraud and abuse, they're coming up against predictably

2817
01:39:12,940 --> 01:39:15,640
negative press coverage from the mainstream media, which

2818
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,540
is often sympathetic to government employees and hostile

2819
01:39:18,540 --> 01:39:20,420
toward efforts to reduce the size and scope

2820
01:39:20,420 --> 01:39:21,220
of government.

2821
01:39:21,660 --> 01:39:23,860
That's why you'll often see, read and hear

2822
01:39:23,860 --> 01:39:26,820
stories about how some attempt or another by

2823
01:39:26,820 --> 01:39:29,680
Trump or Elon to change or mandate a

2824
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,500
new system or eliminate it is resulting in

2825
01:39:32,500 --> 01:39:33,940
headaches for various people.

2826
01:39:33,940 --> 01:39:36,360
For instance, you might've read last week that

2827
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,900
DOJ's efforts to reduce the federal workforce as

2828
01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:41,460
it pertains to the US park system was

2829
01:39:41,460 --> 01:39:42,940
creating long lines.

2830
01:39:43,060 --> 01:39:45,200
The Washington Post complained that the Trump administration

2831
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,980
had gotten rid of the only locksmith at

2832
01:39:47,980 --> 01:39:49,440
Yosemite National Park.

2833
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:51,720
He was described as the only employee with

2834
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,400
quote, institutional knowledge needed to rescue visitors from

2835
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:56,580
locked restrooms.

2836
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,820
Sounds serious, right?

2837
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:01,820
Elsewhere, you'll see constant complaints from media that

2838
01:40:01,820 --> 01:40:04,820
attempts to reduce the federal bureaucracy will hamstring

2839
01:40:04,820 --> 01:40:07,380
our efforts to fight diseases or have nuclear

2840
01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:09,480
safety or keep airplanes in the sky.

2841
01:40:09,980 --> 01:40:12,600
But what if there was something not entirely

2842
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,680
genuine about these difficulties?

2843
01:40:14,940 --> 01:40:17,880
What if the federal bureaucracy sensing a threat

2844
01:40:18,340 --> 01:40:21,200
to its self-preservation was making things as

2845
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,680
awful as possible in order to scare the

2846
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,360
American people into thinking government can only function

2847
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,480
if it is vast and unaccountable.

2848
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,140
We actually have a term for this.

2849
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:32,320
It's called malicious compliance.

2850
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:34,840
It's when someone follows a new rule so

2851
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,760
closely without applying common sense, such that they

2852
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:41,060
ultimately work against the rule's stated purpose deliberately.

2853
01:40:42,060 --> 01:40:43,920
Okay, malicious compliance.

2854
01:40:44,540 --> 01:40:46,640
Is this a term you're familiar with?

2855
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,420
Actually, no, but I know the process because

2856
01:40:50,420 --> 01:40:51,160
it's been done.

2857
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,560
It's a standard operating procedure for anyone unionized.

2858
01:40:55,700 --> 01:40:56,700
It's called slowdown.

2859
01:40:57,060 --> 01:40:58,680
Ah, yeah, slowdown, right.

2860
01:40:58,680 --> 01:40:59,720
Everyone's heard of that.

2861
01:41:00,140 --> 01:41:02,480
But I did malicious compliance when I was

2862
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:04,300
working in the private sector as an inspector

2863
01:41:04,300 --> 01:41:05,220
for Trailmobile.

2864
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:06,380
It's an interesting story.

2865
01:41:08,420 --> 01:41:10,340
I used to, there used to be one

2866
01:41:10,340 --> 01:41:11,980
guy on the line of the line I

2867
01:41:11,980 --> 01:41:15,420
was inspecting who was kind of an amateur

2868
01:41:15,420 --> 01:41:17,100
comedian and I'd spend a lot of time

2869
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:20,100
chatting with him until one day the foreman

2870
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:23,320
of that line, the manufacturing guy, wasn't my

2871
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,160
foreman.

2872
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,060
He wasn't my supervisor, but he comes up

2873
01:41:26,060 --> 01:41:27,060
to me and he says, you know, you

2874
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:30,780
chewed me out for wasting this guy's time

2875
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:31,900
chatting with him.

2876
01:41:33,180 --> 01:41:35,440
And so it was like, okay, you want

2877
01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:36,320
to play that way?

2878
01:41:36,460 --> 01:41:39,160
I went back to the line and started

2879
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,740
tagging because there's lots of flaws that most

2880
01:41:41,740 --> 01:41:43,500
inspectors just overlook because you don't- Wait,

2881
01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:45,020
was this when you were a can inspector?

2882
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:49,680
No, no, this is cargo containers.

2883
01:41:49,940 --> 01:41:52,600
Oh, you inspected cargo containers too?

2884
01:41:52,740 --> 01:41:53,460
Yes, I did.

2885
01:41:53,460 --> 01:41:53,760
Wow.

2886
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:58,580
For Pacific, for Mattson, Pacific, whatever their company

2887
01:41:58,580 --> 01:41:59,860
is, there's a bunch of different ones.

2888
01:42:00,420 --> 01:42:02,340
But in this case, they were aluminum.

2889
01:42:03,420 --> 01:42:05,260
And so these containers would come through and

2890
01:42:05,260 --> 01:42:07,600
I would just start tagging everything, any little

2891
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:11,040
flaw, which normally you let pass because, you

2892
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:12,720
know, you got to get these things out.

2893
01:42:12,820 --> 01:42:14,840
You can't just, because everything's flawed.

2894
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,440
And so I just covered these containers with

2895
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:23,320
these red tags and it's basically stopped the

2896
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,540
line because you have to go back and

2897
01:42:25,540 --> 01:42:28,960
fix all this stuff, even though it's diddly

2898
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:29,360
shit.

2899
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,440
And so the guy, within just a few

2900
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:34,160
hours, it didn't take that long, this foreman

2901
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,440
comes up to me and apologizes profusely for

2902
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:39,980
chewing me out and saying, you can do

2903
01:42:39,980 --> 01:42:41,060
it, you know, I'm sorry.

2904
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:42,920
And he was just bending, he was just

2905
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,740
almost in tears.

2906
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:49,300
And that's what you can do if you're

2907
01:42:49,300 --> 01:42:51,300
one of these types of people like me.

2908
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,320
So I can see malicious compliance.

2909
01:42:55,440 --> 01:42:56,900
I never did anything like that when I

2910
01:42:56,900 --> 01:42:58,520
was working for the government, but I can

2911
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,220
see how you can do it.

2912
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,840
So in these days of schedule F, if

2913
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,200
someone's, if government workers think that malicious compliance

2914
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,100
is the way, they may find themselves getting

2915
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:08,520
canned.

2916
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,460
Well, I wasn't worried about getting canned for

2917
01:43:13,460 --> 01:43:15,180
what I did on the Trailmobile line.

2918
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:16,780
No, but if they're locking restrooms.

2919
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,260
I disagree with that.

2920
01:43:18,300 --> 01:43:20,660
I think most of the time, especially if

2921
01:43:20,660 --> 01:43:22,360
you go with the way they described as

2922
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:23,240
malicious compliance.

2923
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:24,700
In other words, going by the book.

2924
01:43:25,260 --> 01:43:27,180
It's very hard to can somebody when they

2925
01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:29,580
can point at the regulation and say, look,

2926
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:31,440
this is what it says to do.

2927
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,080
I know we haven't been doing this, but

2928
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,160
now that I'm worried about my job, I'm

2929
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,620
gonna do this because it says I'm supposed

2930
01:43:37,620 --> 01:43:37,860
to.

2931
01:43:37,940 --> 01:43:39,340
So that's what I'm doing while you're firing

2932
01:43:39,340 --> 01:43:39,860
me.

2933
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,940
This is what, you can do this.

2934
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,000
It's doable and it works.

2935
01:43:49,930 --> 01:43:52,510
Of course, the question is how much resistance

2936
01:43:52,510 --> 01:43:53,350
is there?

2937
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:54,850
Are people really upset?

2938
01:43:55,050 --> 01:43:58,630
Is this just magnification by the M5M?

2939
01:43:58,970 --> 01:44:01,690
It's magnification totally because everything I've seen so

2940
01:44:01,690 --> 01:44:05,350
far is mostly, employees on probation that don't

2941
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:07,130
know how to pull these stunts.

2942
01:44:08,710 --> 01:44:09,610
Hold on a second.

2943
01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:11,130
Hold on, we have data.

2944
01:44:11,370 --> 01:44:12,050
We have data.

2945
01:44:12,170 --> 01:44:14,490
We have data that people hate Elon Musk

2946
01:44:14,490 --> 01:44:14,970
and Doge.

2947
01:44:15,130 --> 01:44:16,350
Data incoming, CNN.

2948
01:44:16,710 --> 01:44:18,470
Matt, anecdotes are not data, but we're starting

2949
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:19,350
to get some data.

2950
01:44:19,650 --> 01:44:20,390
The anecdotes are not data.

2951
01:44:20,570 --> 01:44:21,630
Yeah, well, here it is.

2952
01:44:21,650 --> 01:44:22,270
She's got data.

2953
01:44:22,270 --> 01:44:24,130
Matt, anecdotes are not data, but we're starting

2954
01:44:24,130 --> 01:44:26,690
to get some data that puts numbers behind

2955
01:44:26,690 --> 01:44:29,610
this with 51% of respondents in a

2956
01:44:29,610 --> 01:44:32,050
recent CNN poll saying that President Trump's efforts

2957
01:44:32,050 --> 01:44:34,430
- So they bring in a CNN poll,

2958
01:44:34,570 --> 01:44:36,570
which is the same as a smirconish.

2959
01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:38,870
You know, it's like, well, let's just put

2960
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:39,650
some numbers together.

2961
01:44:39,770 --> 01:44:40,690
We have a CNN poll.

2962
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:41,310
We're CNN.

2963
01:44:41,450 --> 01:44:42,350
We have a CNN poll.

2964
01:44:42,430 --> 01:44:43,130
We don't like Trump.

2965
01:44:43,250 --> 01:44:44,310
Here's our data.

2966
01:44:44,530 --> 01:44:47,590
Puts numbers behind this with 51% of

2967
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:49,710
respondents in a recent CNN poll saying that

2968
01:44:49,710 --> 01:44:52,210
President Trump's efforts to cut federal programs have

2969
01:44:52,210 --> 01:44:52,990
gone too far.

2970
01:44:53,450 --> 01:44:56,350
54% say they do not support him

2971
01:44:56,350 --> 01:44:58,110
giving Elon Musk this prominent role.

2972
01:44:58,330 --> 01:45:01,450
And a full 53% are afraid or

2973
01:45:01,450 --> 01:45:04,370
pessimistic about the rest of his term.

2974
01:45:04,690 --> 01:45:06,450
Oh, the data is in.

2975
01:45:06,610 --> 01:45:07,690
The data is in.

2976
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:08,930
Yeah.

2977
01:45:10,610 --> 01:45:11,370
It's horrible.

2978
01:45:12,770 --> 01:45:15,470
Oh, luckily the public's not watching CNN.

2979
01:45:16,030 --> 01:45:16,370
No.

2980
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:20,030
So I heard an interesting stat on, it

2981
01:45:20,030 --> 01:45:22,690
was actually on Fox News from this economist.

2982
01:45:22,850 --> 01:45:24,890
I think it may be an investor economist,

2983
01:45:25,010 --> 01:45:25,170
dude.

2984
01:45:25,250 --> 01:45:27,010
Gary Kaltbaum, ever hear of him?

2985
01:45:27,570 --> 01:45:27,770
No.

2986
01:45:28,230 --> 01:45:30,970
And, you know, and the thing is there's

2987
01:45:30,970 --> 01:45:36,710
so much, what's the term?

2988
01:45:36,770 --> 01:45:38,550
There's so much difference in the numbers that

2989
01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:43,690
everybody's giving on everything, just like measles and

2990
01:45:43,690 --> 01:45:46,050
the efficacy of the measles vaccine.

2991
01:45:46,050 --> 01:45:48,650
How much money do we actually send to

2992
01:45:48,650 --> 01:45:51,470
Ukraine, which is another one of those.

2993
01:45:51,890 --> 01:45:54,250
Remember they kept sending 40 billion here, 40

2994
01:45:54,250 --> 01:45:54,830
billion there.

2995
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:56,970
It was like this, the same number, 40

2996
01:45:56,970 --> 01:45:58,050
billion, 40 billion.

2997
01:45:58,170 --> 01:45:59,610
So you couldn't, you kind of lose track

2998
01:45:59,610 --> 01:46:01,790
of how many times we sent 40 billion.

2999
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:04,030
And, you know, so some say, you know,

3000
01:46:04,150 --> 01:46:06,550
the president says 500, then it's 350.

3001
01:46:08,690 --> 01:46:11,210
Zelensky, Macron says, no, no, no, we sent

3002
01:46:11,210 --> 01:46:12,530
60% of all the money.

3003
01:46:12,610 --> 01:46:15,010
Everyone's all over the map with these numbers.

3004
01:46:15,570 --> 01:46:17,410
And then there's also the Trump, you know,

3005
01:46:17,450 --> 01:46:22,130
he spent $7 trillion during his first term,

3006
01:46:22,210 --> 01:46:22,930
$8 trillion.

3007
01:46:23,530 --> 01:46:26,230
And here's the guy, Kalkbaum, talking about what

3008
01:46:26,230 --> 01:46:28,710
was spent during the Biden administration.

3009
01:46:28,930 --> 01:46:31,170
I think the best move would be to

3010
01:46:31,170 --> 01:46:34,130
first take down the debt, take down the

3011
01:46:34,130 --> 01:46:36,530
size of government, which by the way, is

3012
01:46:36,530 --> 01:46:39,650
up 60 some odd percent since the year

3013
01:46:39,650 --> 01:46:40,450
before COVID.

3014
01:46:40,730 --> 01:46:44,650
That's our government spending and has quadrupled since

3015
01:46:44,650 --> 01:46:47,670
the year 2000, which is quite the insanity.

3016
01:46:48,130 --> 01:46:50,370
The biggest bull market and the biggest inflation

3017
01:46:50,370 --> 01:46:52,690
we do have is the size of our

3018
01:46:52,690 --> 01:46:57,710
government that went unchecked with absolutely zero accountability

3019
01:46:57,710 --> 01:46:58,310
whatsoever.

3020
01:46:58,310 --> 01:47:01,150
So it is about time somebody's in there.

3021
01:47:01,350 --> 01:47:03,610
And the more I see people complain, the

3022
01:47:03,610 --> 01:47:05,370
more I know that they're probably in the

3023
01:47:05,370 --> 01:47:07,190
soup and have been a big part of

3024
01:47:07,190 --> 01:47:07,330
it.

3025
01:47:07,770 --> 01:47:09,610
I think he's probably right.

3026
01:47:10,430 --> 01:47:12,270
No, he's completely right.

3027
01:47:12,610 --> 01:47:15,170
But the thing is, I keep falling back

3028
01:47:15,170 --> 01:47:17,070
on my thesis, which is that this is

3029
01:47:17,070 --> 01:47:20,110
just a giant jobs program to keep us

3030
01:47:20,110 --> 01:47:20,910
out of the drink.

3031
01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:22,810
What do you mean?

3032
01:47:22,970 --> 01:47:24,310
How does it keep us out of the

3033
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:24,630
drink?

3034
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:26,930
Well, you keep it because you're putting money

3035
01:47:26,930 --> 01:47:27,930
back in circulation.

3036
01:47:28,090 --> 01:47:29,670
You're keeping people employed.

3037
01:47:29,730 --> 01:47:31,090
You're keeping them off the streets.

3038
01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:33,670
You're doing everything you can, you know, to

3039
01:47:33,670 --> 01:47:35,390
keep things propped up.

3040
01:47:36,910 --> 01:47:39,430
And you end up with what amounts to

3041
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:40,610
being a jobs program.

3042
01:47:40,830 --> 01:47:42,150
And then if you try to straighten it

3043
01:47:42,150 --> 01:47:44,950
out, it's going to cause an economic collapse

3044
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:45,670
at some point.

3045
01:47:45,910 --> 01:47:47,170
2026 is my prediction.

3046
01:47:47,490 --> 01:47:49,570
Well, we always said that as we were

3047
01:47:49,570 --> 01:47:51,770
looking the ramp up to this election with

3048
01:47:51,770 --> 01:47:56,830
President Trump, we always said, the Democrats probably

3049
01:47:56,830 --> 01:47:59,710
want him to win because the crap is

3050
01:47:59,710 --> 01:48:00,010
coming.

3051
01:48:00,210 --> 01:48:01,050
Everybody knows it.

3052
01:48:01,210 --> 01:48:02,150
Everybody sees it.

3053
01:48:02,170 --> 01:48:03,650
And they want him to deal with it.

3054
01:48:03,810 --> 01:48:05,050
And I think he knows it too.

3055
01:48:06,690 --> 01:48:07,890
And it's probably coming.

3056
01:48:07,890 --> 01:48:08,450
He might be right.

3057
01:48:08,610 --> 01:48:09,290
He might know it.

3058
01:48:09,410 --> 01:48:10,070
I think it's coming.

3059
01:48:10,210 --> 01:48:13,290
Well, let's talk about migration for a moment

3060
01:48:13,290 --> 01:48:16,530
as we have a big change in New

3061
01:48:16,530 --> 01:48:17,050
York City.

3062
01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:19,410
Over the last two years, the Roosevelt Hotel

3063
01:48:19,410 --> 01:48:21,670
has been the first stop for more than

3064
01:48:21,670 --> 01:48:25,630
173,000 immigrants in search of the American

3065
01:48:25,630 --> 01:48:28,110
dream, which is now set to shut its

3066
01:48:28,110 --> 01:48:29,510
doors in June.

3067
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:31,550
Today marks another milestone.

3068
01:48:32,150 --> 01:48:34,730
Mayor Eric Adams making the announcement early Monday

3069
01:48:34,730 --> 01:48:35,930
morning on social media.

3070
01:48:35,930 --> 01:48:37,670
We are now in a place where we

3071
01:48:37,670 --> 01:48:39,690
are asking, well, where do people go?

3072
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:41,930
This 38-year-old mother of three arrived

3073
01:48:41,930 --> 01:48:43,710
from Peru two months ago.

3074
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:49,550
She says, they haven't told us anything.

3075
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:51,430
On the contrary, they told us that when

3076
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:53,450
they heard those rumors in the news that

3077
01:48:53,450 --> 01:48:54,390
we should be calm.

3078
01:48:54,510 --> 01:48:55,710
They're not going to move us.

3079
01:48:56,030 --> 01:48:57,890
They haven't told us anything about getting us

3080
01:48:57,890 --> 01:48:59,630
out of here or that they're going to

3081
01:48:59,630 --> 01:49:00,390
close the Roosevelt.

3082
01:49:00,790 --> 01:49:02,530
But the number of migrants in the city's

3083
01:49:02,530 --> 01:49:04,830
care are dramatically dropping over the last year

3084
01:49:04,830 --> 01:49:07,470
after the city implemented a 60-day stay

3085
01:49:07,470 --> 01:49:10,810
limit, purchased 53,000 tickets for migrants to

3086
01:49:10,810 --> 01:49:13,490
relocate to other cities, and helped nearly 100

3087
01:49:13,490 --> 01:49:16,270
,000 asylum seekers apply for work authorizations.

3088
01:49:16,710 --> 01:49:18,770
Not to mention the fears sparked by the

3089
01:49:18,770 --> 01:49:21,650
recent immigrant crackdown factoring into a decline in

3090
01:49:21,650 --> 01:49:22,430
new arrivals.

3091
01:49:23,230 --> 01:49:26,570
Now, the closing of the Roosevelt Hotel comes

3092
01:49:26,570 --> 01:49:29,610
just a week after Deputy Mayor Anne Williams

3093
01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:33,650
Isom, who has overseen asylum seekers over the

3094
01:49:33,650 --> 01:49:34,330
last two years.

3095
01:49:34,330 --> 01:49:36,190
It comes right after that.

3096
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:37,530
So it's a timely announcement.

3097
01:49:38,130 --> 01:49:40,710
Right now, we know that 53 shelters will

3098
01:49:40,710 --> 01:49:44,630
be closing by mid-year, and how exactly

3099
01:49:44,630 --> 01:49:46,870
they're going to wind down operations here at

3100
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:49,070
the Roosevelt Hotel remains to be seen.

3101
01:49:49,250 --> 01:49:50,650
This is going to be interesting.

3102
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:52,630
That is such a prime piece of real

3103
01:49:52,630 --> 01:49:52,890
estate.

3104
01:49:52,990 --> 01:49:55,090
Will they bring back a flea bag motel

3105
01:49:55,090 --> 01:49:56,090
as the Roosevelt?

3106
01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:59,070
Or turn it into a five-star luxury

3107
01:49:59,070 --> 01:49:59,590
thing?

3108
01:50:01,210 --> 01:50:03,270
Well, in that report is something that I

3109
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:04,770
have in another report, too.

3110
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:08,830
These are asylum seekers, I think, mostly.

3111
01:50:09,010 --> 01:50:10,090
Is that what we're talking about here?

3112
01:50:10,110 --> 01:50:10,730
Because you brought them in.

3113
01:50:11,630 --> 01:50:13,170
The family's from Peru?

3114
01:50:13,650 --> 01:50:14,950
What's going on in Peru?

3115
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:17,090
It's a problematic country.

3116
01:50:17,470 --> 01:50:20,230
By the way, Peru, interestingly enough, if you

3117
01:50:20,230 --> 01:50:23,670
look at download statistics from podcasts, there's always

3118
01:50:23,670 --> 01:50:25,230
a lot of downloads in Peru.

3119
01:50:25,790 --> 01:50:27,950
But yet we get no donations from Peru.

3120
01:50:28,430 --> 01:50:30,730
We don't have any, because there's nothing happening

3121
01:50:30,730 --> 01:50:34,910
in Peru except some farm that's putting numbers

3122
01:50:34,910 --> 01:50:37,330
up for the Midas Touch podcast.

3123
01:50:37,450 --> 01:50:40,110
The podcast industrial complex, the Midas Touch.

3124
01:50:40,150 --> 01:50:40,630
It's bullcrap.

3125
01:50:40,890 --> 01:50:42,930
You worked in a company that did that.

3126
01:50:43,150 --> 01:50:45,570
No, I cannot confirm or deny.

3127
01:50:46,590 --> 01:50:48,450
So, well, let's talk, we're going to talk

3128
01:50:48,450 --> 01:50:49,150
about these refugees.

3129
01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:51,450
Let's get the refugee problem on PBS.

3130
01:50:51,650 --> 01:50:53,850
I got a four-parter here that's kind

3131
01:50:53,850 --> 01:50:54,930
of interesting.

3132
01:50:55,090 --> 01:50:55,990
Let's play these.

3133
01:50:56,250 --> 01:50:58,450
A federal judge in Seattle has blocked President

3134
01:50:58,450 --> 01:51:01,510
Trump's executive order halting the admission of refugees

3135
01:51:01,510 --> 01:51:02,570
into the US.

3136
01:51:03,050 --> 01:51:05,850
The judge said the administration had likely exceeded

3137
01:51:05,850 --> 01:51:09,030
its authority by freezing the US refugee admissions

3138
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:11,830
program, which was established by Congress back in

3139
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:12,290
1980.

3140
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:14,750
It remains to be seen whether the administration

3141
01:51:14,750 --> 01:51:18,150
will comply, while a lawsuit challenging the ban

3142
01:51:18,150 --> 01:51:20,810
filed by some of the country's largest resettlement

3143
01:51:20,810 --> 01:51:23,730
organizations works its way through the courts.

3144
01:51:23,950 --> 01:51:25,910
We're joined now by Mark Hetfield.

3145
01:51:26,010 --> 01:51:27,210
He's the president of HIAS.

3146
01:51:27,250 --> 01:51:30,070
That's the country's oldest refugee resettlement agency.

3147
01:51:30,290 --> 01:51:33,190
And the organization's also a plaintiff in that

3148
01:51:33,190 --> 01:51:33,590
lawsuit.

3149
01:51:33,730 --> 01:51:34,510
Thanks for being with us.

3150
01:51:34,690 --> 01:51:35,190
Thank you, Jeff.

3151
01:51:35,470 --> 01:51:37,370
So first, help us understand what the US

3152
01:51:37,370 --> 01:51:40,930
refugee admissions program is, how does the program

3153
01:51:40,930 --> 01:51:42,790
work, and who does it aim to assist?

3154
01:51:42,990 --> 01:51:43,290
Sure.

3155
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:45,850
So the program was started in 1980 by

3156
01:51:45,850 --> 01:51:48,550
the Refugee Act of 1980 to provide a

3157
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:51,790
safe and legal pathway for people fleeing persecution

3158
01:51:51,790 --> 01:51:54,210
or war or conflict to come to the

3159
01:51:54,210 --> 01:51:57,010
United States to either join with family or

3160
01:51:57,010 --> 01:52:00,630
to meet foreign policy, humanitarian policy priorities of

3161
01:52:00,630 --> 01:52:01,650
the United States government.

3162
01:52:02,410 --> 01:52:04,950
So what was the material impact of this

3163
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:05,650
suspension?

3164
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:08,610
How were the refugees affected and your employees

3165
01:52:08,610 --> 01:52:09,050
as well?

3166
01:52:09,390 --> 01:52:10,530
It was devastating.

3167
01:52:11,070 --> 01:52:13,090
And this was not just a mere suspension

3168
01:52:13,090 --> 01:52:15,270
like it was in the first Trump term.

3169
01:52:15,710 --> 01:52:19,410
This was a complete dismantlement of the refugee

3170
01:52:19,410 --> 01:52:22,770
program because not only did all refugees, not

3171
01:52:22,770 --> 01:52:25,190
only were all refugees stopped from arriving, but

3172
01:52:25,190 --> 01:52:29,550
also all the processing offices were shut down.

3173
01:52:30,090 --> 01:52:31,610
Everything was defunded.

3174
01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:34,230
So it's gonna be almost impossible to start

3175
01:52:34,230 --> 01:52:34,770
it back up.

3176
01:52:34,830 --> 01:52:37,010
And in terms of the actual impact, for

3177
01:52:37,010 --> 01:52:41,730
example, my agency had 621 refugees who were

3178
01:52:41,730 --> 01:52:45,730
vetted by Homeland Security, approved by Homeland Security,

3179
01:52:46,030 --> 01:52:48,390
had plane tickets in hand, were supposed to

3180
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:50,650
arrive in February, but they're not coming.

3181
01:52:51,230 --> 01:52:52,910
Oh man, I love this organization.

3182
01:52:52,910 --> 01:52:55,370
This is another religious-based organization.

3183
01:52:55,910 --> 01:53:01,170
This is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society who

3184
01:53:01,170 --> 01:53:05,050
in 2023, I'm gonna look up the 990

3185
01:53:05,050 --> 01:53:08,510
while we play the next clip, had $128

3186
01:53:08,510 --> 01:53:10,150
million in receipts.

3187
01:53:11,770 --> 01:53:13,350
So way to go.

3188
01:53:13,910 --> 01:53:14,470
Do-gooders.

3189
01:53:14,810 --> 01:53:16,290
They're very do-gooders.

3190
01:53:16,410 --> 01:53:17,770
Okay, let's go to the next clip.

3191
01:53:18,130 --> 01:53:20,030
The plane tickets were literally snatched out of

3192
01:53:20,030 --> 01:53:20,450
their hands.

3193
01:53:20,690 --> 01:53:22,770
So when you say it's nearly impossible to

3194
01:53:22,770 --> 01:53:25,190
restart this work, tell me more about that.

3195
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:28,410
Well, to resettle refugees, you're gonna have to

3196
01:53:28,410 --> 01:53:32,530
have people that prepare their applications, that assist

3197
01:53:32,530 --> 01:53:35,370
them overseas, that give them cultural orientation, that

3198
01:53:35,370 --> 01:53:37,630
book their plane tickets, that then receive them

3199
01:53:37,630 --> 01:53:39,190
here in the United States, which is what

3200
01:53:39,190 --> 01:53:41,190
my agency HIAS does along with the other

3201
01:53:41,190 --> 01:53:42,310
non-resettlement agencies.

3202
01:53:42,970 --> 01:53:45,790
All of those things were completely defunded.

3203
01:53:46,630 --> 01:53:49,030
Your organization is a Jewish organization.

3204
01:53:49,210 --> 01:53:53,010
Many of the resettlement organizations are faith organizations.

3205
01:53:53,150 --> 01:53:55,150
How does faith inform the work that you

3206
01:53:55,150 --> 01:53:55,350
do?

3207
01:53:55,930 --> 01:53:59,370
Well, in the Torah, 36 times it's repeated

3208
01:53:59,370 --> 01:54:02,230
to welcome the stranger, to love the stranger

3209
01:54:02,230 --> 01:54:04,670
as ourselves, for we were once strangers ourselves.

3210
01:54:05,230 --> 01:54:07,730
And so it's really a fundamental part of

3211
01:54:07,730 --> 01:54:09,430
our history and of our values.

3212
01:54:09,610 --> 01:54:11,530
And not just going back to the holy

3213
01:54:11,530 --> 01:54:14,050
books, but also our more recent experience in

3214
01:54:14,050 --> 01:54:17,310
the 20th century, 21st century, the Jewish people

3215
01:54:17,310 --> 01:54:19,470
are a people who know displacement.

3216
01:54:19,470 --> 01:54:21,650
And so we are naturally empathetic.

3217
01:54:22,570 --> 01:54:24,810
I'm sure, as you know, Vice President J

3218
01:54:24,810 --> 01:54:27,390
.D. Vance recently accused the US Conference of

3219
01:54:27,390 --> 01:54:30,330
Catholic Bishops of profiting off its work resettling

3220
01:54:30,330 --> 01:54:31,430
refugees.

3221
01:54:31,730 --> 01:54:35,210
Do you or any of the organizations profit

3222
01:54:35,210 --> 01:54:35,790
off this work?

3223
01:54:35,850 --> 01:54:36,890
Is that even a motive of yours?

3224
01:54:37,090 --> 01:54:37,290
No.

3225
01:54:37,890 --> 01:54:37,990
Nah.

3226
01:54:39,850 --> 01:54:43,070
$25 million in salary says differently, as far

3227
01:54:43,070 --> 01:54:45,110
as I'm concerned, just looking at their 2023

3228
01:54:45,110 --> 01:54:46,030
990.

3229
01:54:46,890 --> 01:54:48,850
No, it's the same with the Lutherans.

3230
01:54:48,850 --> 01:54:51,910
Although the Lutheran church distanced themselves from the

3231
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:56,470
Lutheran refugee program, saying, well, you know, that

3232
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:59,470
thing was put together after World War II,

3233
01:54:59,970 --> 01:55:01,550
and we don't have anything to do with

3234
01:55:01,550 --> 01:55:01,670
it.

3235
01:55:01,690 --> 01:55:04,630
They just use the Lutheran name, which I'm

3236
01:55:04,630 --> 01:55:07,070
sure is exactly what HIAS is as well.

3237
01:55:07,710 --> 01:55:09,730
This is a giant scam.

3238
01:55:09,870 --> 01:55:12,030
And the Catholic Bishops Conference.

3239
01:55:13,690 --> 01:55:14,630
Yeah, right.

3240
01:55:15,010 --> 01:55:16,990
There's some nice salaries here.

3241
01:55:17,810 --> 01:55:20,370
And good parties, good parties, good parties.

3242
01:55:20,530 --> 01:55:23,070
No, so clip three has a contradictory piece

3243
01:55:23,070 --> 01:55:25,370
of information that I found interesting.

3244
01:55:25,930 --> 01:55:27,590
This is a labor of love.

3245
01:55:28,010 --> 01:55:30,390
This is something we have to raise money

3246
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:32,470
for because we can't possibly do it on

3247
01:55:32,470 --> 01:55:34,570
the funding that the federal government gives us.

3248
01:55:34,670 --> 01:55:36,470
It is a public private partnership.

3249
01:55:37,250 --> 01:55:39,150
And so now we've raised lots of funding

3250
01:55:39,150 --> 01:55:40,190
to welcome refugees.

3251
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:41,830
Stop the clip.

3252
01:55:42,130 --> 01:55:44,210
Public private partnership, that's good.

3253
01:55:44,730 --> 01:55:46,270
So public, we have to raise money because

3254
01:55:46,270 --> 01:55:48,810
we can't make it on the government money.

3255
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:50,530
We need to raise money.

3256
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:52,190
So wait a minute, then what difference does

3257
01:55:52,190 --> 01:55:53,750
it make that the government cut you off?

3258
01:55:55,590 --> 01:55:58,890
Yeah, yeah, no, I hear the contradiction, exactly.

3259
01:55:59,530 --> 01:56:01,430
And so now we've raised lots of funding

3260
01:56:01,430 --> 01:56:03,870
to welcome refugees to the United States, and

3261
01:56:03,870 --> 01:56:06,350
now none of them are coming, including refugees

3262
01:56:06,350 --> 01:56:08,470
who themselves are fleeing religious persecution.

3263
01:56:09,150 --> 01:56:10,170
Oh, so now you have to get a

3264
01:56:10,170 --> 01:56:10,730
real job.

3265
01:56:11,250 --> 01:56:11,990
Well, that sucks.

3266
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:14,350
Because, you know, I think the government, something

3267
01:56:14,350 --> 01:56:19,610
like $1,700 per person they place, and

3268
01:56:19,610 --> 01:56:20,730
they're just placing people.

3269
01:56:21,310 --> 01:56:23,010
They're not housing people, as far as I

3270
01:56:23,010 --> 01:56:23,190
know.

3271
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:24,710
Most of these organizations don't.

3272
01:56:24,930 --> 01:56:26,030
They place people.

3273
01:56:27,690 --> 01:56:29,530
And there's another thing in here, the highest

3274
01:56:29,530 --> 01:56:31,070
foundation.

3275
01:56:31,450 --> 01:56:34,970
There's a lot of things going on here.

3276
01:56:35,170 --> 01:56:37,530
In this show, we have a term for

3277
01:56:37,530 --> 01:56:38,670
this called sketchy.

3278
01:56:38,850 --> 01:56:40,090
Sketchy, yes.

3279
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:42,330
And then they have the highest and council

3280
01:56:42,330 --> 01:56:43,730
migration service.

3281
01:56:44,630 --> 01:56:45,190
Wow.

3282
01:56:45,590 --> 01:56:47,870
Yeah, they talk people into coming, so let's

3283
01:56:47,870 --> 01:56:48,930
go to the last part.

3284
01:56:49,370 --> 01:56:52,550
Afghan, people who supported us in Afghanistan, people

3285
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:54,950
who supported US veterans and risked their lives

3286
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:56,350
or who worked for the US Embassy in

3287
01:56:56,350 --> 01:56:57,830
Kabul, they can't come.

3288
01:56:58,150 --> 01:57:00,950
People whose families were separated by conflict or

3289
01:57:00,950 --> 01:57:04,010
war, those parents and children will remain separated

3290
01:57:04,010 --> 01:57:04,590
indefinitely.

3291
01:57:04,730 --> 01:57:07,850
Those kids are essentially being orphaned by this

3292
01:57:07,850 --> 01:57:09,150
Trump administration policy.

3293
01:57:09,540 --> 01:57:12,470
The administration, in its executive order, argued that

3294
01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:15,090
the United States lacks the ability to absorb

3295
01:57:15,090 --> 01:57:17,890
large numbers of migrants, and in particular refugees,

3296
01:57:18,170 --> 01:57:20,250
into its communities in a manner that does

3297
01:57:20,250 --> 01:57:23,750
not compromise the availability of resources for Americans.

3298
01:57:23,950 --> 01:57:26,490
This is an argument the administration makes fairly

3299
01:57:26,490 --> 01:57:29,250
often, that resources are finite.

3300
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:30,790
What's your reaction to that?

3301
01:57:30,890 --> 01:57:33,210
My reaction is that that's an argument that

3302
01:57:33,210 --> 01:57:36,610
the Trump administration made in 2017 and that

3303
01:57:36,610 --> 01:57:38,510
they themselves proved was fallacious.

3304
01:57:38,510 --> 01:57:41,630
In 2017, in the Muslim and Refugee Ban,

3305
01:57:41,930 --> 01:57:44,810
President Trump commissioned a study to demonstrate how

3306
01:57:44,810 --> 01:57:48,170
much resettled refugees cost the American taxpayer.

3307
01:57:48,510 --> 01:57:50,530
But they looked at both sides of the

3308
01:57:50,530 --> 01:57:52,130
ledger when they did that study, and they

3309
01:57:52,130 --> 01:57:55,570
found that over a 10-year period, resettled

3310
01:57:55,570 --> 01:58:00,490
refugees contributed 63 billion, with a B, dollars

3311
01:58:00,490 --> 01:58:03,270
more in federal, state, and local taxes than

3312
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:05,010
they took in services and assistance.

3313
01:58:05,490 --> 01:58:08,010
So fortunately for us, while we welcome refugees

3314
01:58:08,010 --> 01:58:10,690
because it's the right thing to do, it

3315
01:58:10,690 --> 01:58:13,070
just also happens to be to the benefit

3316
01:58:13,070 --> 01:58:14,710
of the economy, to the benefit of the

3317
01:58:14,710 --> 01:58:15,050
country.

3318
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:16,570
Refugees are a blessing.

3319
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:17,370
They're not a burden.

3320
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:20,990
I love how he starts off by saying,

3321
01:58:21,130 --> 01:58:23,270
we looked at what it costs the American

3322
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:25,890
public, and then without answering that, he says,

3323
01:58:26,270 --> 01:58:28,490
but they really give us more to the

3324
01:58:28,490 --> 01:58:30,310
economy than it costs, without saying what it

3325
01:58:30,310 --> 01:58:30,710
costs.

3326
01:58:32,980 --> 01:58:34,360
Again, this is typical.

3327
01:58:34,860 --> 01:58:35,080
Yeah.

3328
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,120
They never report on numbers.

3329
01:58:37,300 --> 01:58:38,440
They never give us numbers.

3330
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:40,940
No, you have to go into the 990,

3331
01:58:41,060 --> 01:58:42,260
but you see there's a lot of money

3332
01:58:42,260 --> 01:58:42,780
going around.

3333
01:58:42,940 --> 01:58:44,460
This is actually one of the smaller ones.

3334
01:58:44,820 --> 01:58:48,120
What was the one in Austin that Obama

3335
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:48,780
opened?

3336
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:52,420
Austin, and it was like a billion dollars

3337
01:58:52,420 --> 01:58:52,900
a year.

3338
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:55,780
Yeah, this is good stuff.

3339
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:59,060
Yeah, it's good business.

3340
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:03,000
To go on with the horrors of this,

3341
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:05,600
we have some clips of what's going on

3342
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:06,940
with the Costa Rica movement.

3343
01:59:07,060 --> 01:59:08,120
This is kind of interesting.

3344
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,140
Costa Rica movement, huh?

3345
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,760
Yeah, they're moving people through Costa Rica for

3346
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:14,340
one reason or another, which I guess they've

3347
01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:15,760
been doing for a long time.

3348
01:59:16,700 --> 01:59:19,400
And this will be, the clip will be

3349
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,080
Costa Rica BS1.

3350
01:59:21,460 --> 01:59:24,320
President Trump made carrying out the largest mass

3351
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,540
deportation in US history a cornerstone of his

3352
01:59:27,540 --> 01:59:28,700
2024 campaign.

3353
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:31,280
But there are reports he's unhappy with the

3354
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:32,620
pace of that effort so far.

3355
01:59:32,820 --> 01:59:35,260
William Brangham reports now on a new controversial

3356
01:59:35,260 --> 01:59:38,420
tactic to carry out the administration's crackdown on

3357
01:59:38,420 --> 01:59:39,280
illegal migration.

3358
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:43,180
This plane landed in San Jose, Costa Rica

3359
01:59:43,180 --> 01:59:46,500
last week, descending through a cloud of uncertainty.

3360
01:59:46,900 --> 01:59:50,360
On board were 135 people deported from the

3361
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,560
US on a journey back to their home

3362
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:54,360
countries or somewhere else.

3363
01:59:55,180 --> 01:59:56,920
None are Costa Rican citizens.

3364
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:01,540
There are 65 children and 70 adults.

3365
02:00:02,060 --> 02:00:02,580
They're families.

3366
02:00:03,220 --> 02:00:06,720
Costa Rica is committed to voluntarily returning deportees

3367
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:08,720
to their country of origin in up to

3368
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:09,360
30 days.

3369
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:11,780
The group, hailing from as far away as

3370
02:00:11,780 --> 02:00:15,160
China, Vietnam, and Ghana, were then bused to

3371
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,780
a rural holding facility paid for by the

3372
02:00:17,780 --> 02:00:18,200
US.

3373
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:22,160
Costa Rica became the second Central American country

3374
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:25,660
after Panama to serve as a stopover for

3375
02:00:25,660 --> 02:00:29,260
unauthorized migrants being removed from the US by

3376
02:00:29,260 --> 02:00:30,280
the Trump administration.

3377
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:35,600
Panama accepted almost 300 deportees who were initially

3378
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,820
held under armed guard in this Panama City

3379
02:00:38,820 --> 02:00:39,320
hotel.

3380
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,880
Images of that group stuck inside, unable to

3381
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:44,980
leave, made headlines last week.

3382
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:47,140
We are providing them with all the necessary

3383
02:00:47,140 --> 02:00:49,580
medical food and comfort services, and we will

3384
02:00:49,580 --> 02:00:51,360
continue to do so until the last one

3385
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,040
has left our country, which is what was

3386
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:54,620
agreed with the United States government.

3387
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,600
No, I'd never heard of this.

3388
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:57,440
Yeah.

3389
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:00,500
Yeah, we've done some deals to get to

3390
02:01:00,500 --> 02:01:01,320
move people around.

3391
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:02,860
But who did the deals?

3392
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:03,940
Who did these deals?

3393
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:09,640
I think it was largely Rubio at the

3394
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:10,560
behest of Trump.

3395
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:11,500
Okay.

3396
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:13,360
But Rubio, anything that's got to do with

3397
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:15,140
anything south of the border's got to be

3398
02:01:15,140 --> 02:01:15,580
Rubio.

3399
02:01:15,740 --> 02:01:17,800
He's like, you know, he's just definitely a

3400
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:19,660
Western Hemisphere guy.

3401
02:01:19,860 --> 02:01:21,700
Let's listen to, Clip 2, by the way,

3402
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,040
is, has an answer.

3403
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:24,500
Yeah, yeah, I see it, I see it.

3404
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,380
More than half agreed to be returned to

3405
02:01:26,380 --> 02:01:27,220
their home countries.

3406
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,440
97 were sent to a facility in the

3407
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,760
Darien Gap, a treacherous point of passage at

3408
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,860
Panama's southern border with Colombia, which is used

3409
02:01:36,860 --> 02:01:37,900
by many migrants.

3410
02:01:38,180 --> 02:01:42,180
Susana Sabalza is a Panamanian migration lawyer representing

3411
02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:45,860
a Taiwanese family, including a child under five,

3412
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:47,960
who were sent to the Darien facility.

3413
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:50,140
Do you have any understanding as to what

3414
02:01:50,140 --> 02:01:52,540
the conditions are like in that facility?

3415
02:01:53,500 --> 02:01:54,180
Okay.

3416
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:58,720
I stopped it there because Taiwanese family?

3417
02:01:59,020 --> 02:02:01,440
Is there something going on in Taiwan?

3418
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:03,280
Maybe they're the home of TMSC?

3419
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:05,160
Yes, very troubling country.

3420
02:02:05,620 --> 02:02:06,120
Or TSMC, I guess.

3421
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:07,280
Lots of problems.

3422
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:08,480
You know, it's heating up.

3423
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:10,860
China's going to invade any day now.

3424
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:11,880
Come on into America.

3425
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:12,860
You are a refugee.

3426
02:02:14,200 --> 02:02:15,400
I'm just not getting it.

3427
02:02:15,420 --> 02:02:17,200
We had the Peruvian in the other clip,

3428
02:02:17,220 --> 02:02:18,680
and now we got these Taiwanese.

3429
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:21,660
They're sneaking into the country.

3430
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:23,420
It just doesn't make any sense.

3431
02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,460
No, it doesn't.

3432
02:02:26,540 --> 02:02:27,860
Let me go to the third of the

3433
02:02:27,860 --> 02:02:28,560
series.

3434
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,440
I haven't seen the conditions with my own

3435
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:34,860
eyes, but I've spoken to reporters who have,

3436
02:02:35,300 --> 02:02:37,140
and they say the conditions weren't pleasant.

3437
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:40,160
We have to keep in mind the children,

3438
02:02:40,460 --> 02:02:41,920
who are the future of humanity.

3439
02:02:42,140 --> 02:02:42,760
Think of the children.

3440
02:02:43,060 --> 02:02:44,740
If they're experiencing this type of trauma in

3441
02:02:44,740 --> 02:02:46,960
a tropical refugee camp, I want to know

3442
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:48,940
that they're doing well and that they have

3443
02:02:48,940 --> 02:02:49,540
good care.

3444
02:02:49,860 --> 02:02:51,080
If we could get them out of our

3445
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:54,060
country, we have other countries that would take

3446
02:02:54,060 --> 02:02:54,200
them.

3447
02:02:54,460 --> 02:02:57,660
This new process, using Latin American countries as

3448
02:02:57,660 --> 02:03:01,120
a temporary bridge for deportees, partly helps the

3449
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,980
administration because the U.S. doesn't always have

3450
02:03:03,980 --> 02:03:07,020
diplomatic relationships with some of the migrants' countries

3451
02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:07,600
of origin.

3452
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:10,620
So by transferring them to other nations, it

3453
02:03:10,620 --> 02:03:13,820
transfers the diplomatic labor of repatriation to them

3454
02:03:13,820 --> 02:03:14,440
as well.

3455
02:03:14,860 --> 02:03:19,100
This is a significant or even a mammoth

3456
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:21,400
departure from the practices of the past.

3457
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,000
Muzaffar Chishti is a senior fellow at the

3458
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:25,560
Migration Policy Institute.

3459
02:03:25,780 --> 02:03:28,180
The president has made no secret of the

3460
02:03:28,180 --> 02:03:30,840
fact that he believes that he won this

3461
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,600
election using immigration as a calling card.

3462
02:03:33,900 --> 02:03:36,080
And that message has not been lost on

3463
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:40,060
every single agency head and cabinet member of

3464
02:03:40,060 --> 02:03:40,900
this administration.

3465
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:44,980
They have decided that deportation machinery is now

3466
02:03:44,980 --> 02:03:47,180
the number one paragraph of their job description.

3467
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:49,480
All right.

3468
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:54,540
This guy's one of those internationalist organizations that's

3469
02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:58,160
promoting moving the population of the world around

3470
02:03:58,160 --> 02:03:59,980
so much that you have a globalist takeover.

3471
02:04:00,860 --> 02:04:01,060
Yeah.

3472
02:04:03,180 --> 02:04:07,480
Well, just the talk of ICE and Holman

3473
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:09,660
and everything that's going on is, of course,

3474
02:04:09,860 --> 02:04:11,580
having results.

3475
02:04:12,620 --> 02:04:13,360
Here's ABC.

3476
02:04:13,620 --> 02:04:15,480
A month into President Trump's term, some border

3477
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:18,060
agents say his executive order on immigration appears

3478
02:04:18,060 --> 02:04:18,740
to be working.

3479
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:20,660
They say migration to the U.S. has

3480
02:04:20,660 --> 02:04:21,960
significantly slowed.

3481
02:04:22,420 --> 02:04:24,320
The Department of Homeland Security is also reporting

3482
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:25,480
apprehensions have slowed.

3483
02:04:25,980 --> 02:04:27,960
ABC's Matt Rivers is in Mexico City.

3484
02:04:28,380 --> 02:04:29,800
Matt, how significant is this slowdown?

3485
02:04:30,580 --> 02:04:31,540
It's stunning, Diane.

3486
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,140
There's no other way to put it, really.

3487
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:35,040
The amount of people arriving to the U

3488
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,240
.S. Southwest border has plummeted since the peak

3489
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,600
months that we saw, let's say 18 months

3490
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:40,820
ago.

3491
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:42,760
We did start to see the numbers significantly

3492
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:45,340
slow down when President Biden was still in

3493
02:04:45,340 --> 02:04:47,980
office, thanks to pretty intense restrictions that his

3494
02:04:47,980 --> 02:04:49,400
administration had put into place.

3495
02:04:49,460 --> 02:04:52,060
But President Trump taking that even further, essentially

3496
02:04:52,060 --> 02:04:54,420
cutting off any chance at applying for asylum

3497
02:04:54,420 --> 02:04:56,040
at the U.S. Southwest border.

3498
02:04:56,220 --> 02:04:57,600
Also, when you look at the people coming

3499
02:04:57,600 --> 02:04:59,500
up from the South, you look at the

3500
02:04:59,500 --> 02:05:01,680
Darien Gap, which is that land bridge between

3501
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:02,740
Colombia and Panama.

3502
02:05:02,940 --> 02:05:04,900
It's a stretch of jungle that anybody wanting

3503
02:05:04,900 --> 02:05:07,680
to walk from South America to North America

3504
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:08,700
must go through.

3505
02:05:08,820 --> 02:05:11,500
The number of people that the Panamanian government

3506
02:05:11,500 --> 02:05:13,820
has registered going through that jungle gap has

3507
02:05:13,820 --> 02:05:16,260
plummeted to the lowest level that we've seen

3508
02:05:16,260 --> 02:05:18,920
since February of 2021, when we were right

3509
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:19,920
in the middle of the pandemic.

3510
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,000
So by any metric you look at this,

3511
02:05:22,180 --> 02:05:24,120
people have stopped arriving for the most part

3512
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:25,220
at the U.S. Southwest border.

3513
02:05:25,540 --> 02:05:27,760
And it's even more interesting than that.

3514
02:05:27,860 --> 02:05:30,560
We now have a term called reverse migration.

3515
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:32,900
Now you say thousands of migrants are even

3516
02:05:32,900 --> 02:05:34,280
giving up mid-journey, right?

3517
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:36,260
They're already on their way, and then they're

3518
02:05:36,260 --> 02:05:38,300
going back home before they ever even reach

3519
02:05:38,300 --> 02:05:38,700
the border.

3520
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:39,540
What does that tell you?

3521
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:41,520
Yeah, there were a lot of migrants that

3522
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:43,900
had essentially become stuck here in Mexico during

3523
02:05:43,900 --> 02:05:44,800
the Biden administration.

3524
02:05:45,020 --> 02:05:46,660
They were waiting for their asylum claims to

3525
02:05:46,660 --> 02:05:49,260
be processed by using this application on their

3526
02:05:49,260 --> 02:05:51,700
smartphones that the Biden administration had set up.

3527
02:05:51,900 --> 02:05:54,400
But Trump basically canceled that in addition to

3528
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,260
all the other restrictions he's put into place.

3529
02:05:56,340 --> 02:05:58,080
And so what we're now seeing is this

3530
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:00,540
new phenomenon called reverse migration.

3531
02:06:00,700 --> 02:06:02,920
Essentially, you've got people from, let's say Venezuela,

3532
02:06:03,180 --> 02:06:05,780
Colombia, the two biggest emigration hotspots over the

3533
02:06:05,780 --> 02:06:07,700
last few years, coming all the way to

3534
02:06:07,700 --> 02:06:10,020
Mexico and essentially now looking around at the

3535
02:06:10,020 --> 02:06:11,500
landscape and saying, you know what?

3536
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:13,180
It's not worth it to stay here.

3537
02:06:13,420 --> 02:06:14,500
I don't want to run the risk of

3538
02:06:14,500 --> 02:06:15,060
deportation.

3539
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:16,880
I know the Trump administration is not going

3540
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:17,400
to let me in.

3541
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:20,180
Therefore, they're making the very difficult decision to

3542
02:06:20,180 --> 02:06:21,000
return home.

3543
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,140
President Trump, whether you like him or not,

3544
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:25,100
whether you agree with his policies or not,

3545
02:06:25,380 --> 02:06:28,380
it has to be said that if his

3546
02:06:28,380 --> 02:06:30,920
goal here is to curb irregular migration to

3547
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,280
the United States- He is wildly succeeding

3548
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:33,600
at that.

3549
02:06:33,660 --> 02:06:35,480
Yes, irregular migration.

3550
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:37,000
It's another term for illegal.

3551
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:38,980
Breaking news.

3552
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:40,460
Breaking news.

3553
02:06:41,140 --> 02:06:42,240
Breaking, breaking.

3554
02:06:43,540 --> 02:06:44,680
Pam Bondi.

3555
02:06:45,020 --> 02:06:46,140
Pam Bondi, I have it here.

3556
02:06:46,300 --> 02:06:47,200
Presumed my possession.

3557
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,960
Pam Bondi has sent a letter to FBI

3558
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:52,160
Director Kash Patel.

3559
02:06:53,180 --> 02:06:55,200
Now, what did Pam Bondi say yesterday?

3560
02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:59,020
Yesterday on the Jesse Watters show, she said,

3561
02:06:59,700 --> 02:07:02,680
and she also called it breaking news.

3562
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:03,640
Yes, it was breaking.

3563
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:08,940
That she will release the Jeffrey Epstein files,

3564
02:07:09,340 --> 02:07:11,840
at least some of them, not the victim's

3565
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:14,580
files, but the files, which means the airplane

3566
02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:16,060
logs, today.

3567
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:18,720
And did she not say, Jesse, it's horrible

3568
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,080
what I have here on my desk?

3569
02:07:20,140 --> 02:07:21,300
She had it on her desk?

3570
02:07:21,820 --> 02:07:22,940
Yeah, she had it on her desk and

3571
02:07:22,940 --> 02:07:23,720
it was horrible.

3572
02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:25,160
Horrifying and horrible.

3573
02:07:25,340 --> 02:07:27,980
Dear Director Patel, before you came into office,

3574
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,020
I requested the full and complete files related

3575
02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:31,000
to Jeffrey Epstein.

3576
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:33,700
In response to this request, I received approximately

3577
02:07:33,700 --> 02:07:36,580
200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of

3578
02:07:36,580 --> 02:07:39,680
flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a

3579
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:41,880
list of victims' names and phone numbers.

3580
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,440
By the way, everyone has this.

3581
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:45,900
I have a copy of it.

3582
02:07:45,940 --> 02:07:48,380
It's been out there since January, at least.

3583
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:50,260
She goes on.

3584
02:07:50,420 --> 02:07:53,640
I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full

3585
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:55,900
set of documents responsive to my request and

3586
02:07:55,900 --> 02:07:59,000
was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we

3587
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,180
had received the full set of documents late

3588
02:08:01,180 --> 02:08:01,660
yesterday.

3589
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,840
I learned from a source, familiar with the

3590
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:07,320
matter, that the FBI field office in New

3591
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:09,360
York was in possession of thousands of pages

3592
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,860
of documents related to the investigation and indictment

3593
02:08:11,860 --> 02:08:12,340
of Epstein.

3594
02:08:12,660 --> 02:08:15,440
Despite my repeated requests, the FBI has never

3595
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,300
disclosed the existence of these files.

3596
02:08:17,740 --> 02:08:19,280
When you and I spoke yesterday, you were

3597
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:21,220
just as surprised as I was to learn

3598
02:08:21,220 --> 02:08:22,440
this new information.

3599
02:08:22,860 --> 02:08:25,360
Despite the fact that Pam Bondi yesterday on

3600
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:28,800
Jesse Waters said it was horrific, horrifying.

3601
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:29,760
It's unbelievable.

3602
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,060
By 8 a.m. tomorrow, February 20th, the

3603
02:08:33,060 --> 02:08:34,960
FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein

3604
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,160
files to my office, including all records, documents,

3605
02:08:37,340 --> 02:08:39,500
audio and video recordings and materials related to

3606
02:08:39,500 --> 02:08:42,000
Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how

3607
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:43,400
much information was obtained.

3608
02:08:43,460 --> 02:08:45,600
There'll be no withholdings or limitations to my

3609
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:46,560
or your access.

3610
02:08:47,020 --> 02:08:48,720
The Department of Justice will ensure that any

3611
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:50,400
public disclosure of these files will be done

3612
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,560
in a manner to protect the privacy of

3613
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,160
victims and in accordance with the law.

3614
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:56,300
As I've done my entire career as a

3615
02:08:56,300 --> 02:08:59,200
prosecutor, I'm also directing you, Kash Patel, to

3616
02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:01,500
conduct an immediate investigation into why my order

3617
02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:02,960
to the FBI was not followed.

3618
02:09:03,300 --> 02:09:05,060
You will deliver to me a comprehensive report

3619
02:09:05,060 --> 02:09:07,180
of your findings and proposed personnel action within

3620
02:09:07,180 --> 02:09:08,140
14 days.

3621
02:09:09,500 --> 02:09:12,580
So yesterday, she was full of crap.

3622
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:14,180
She didn't have anything.

3623
02:09:15,660 --> 02:09:17,180
She just says in this note.

3624
02:09:17,380 --> 02:09:18,920
I don't know why she, you know, when

3625
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,440
she did it, I'm saying it's breaking news

3626
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:22,340
and she made a fuss.

3627
02:09:22,780 --> 02:09:24,780
I was baffled by it because I knew

3628
02:09:24,780 --> 02:09:26,980
this was something like this would happen, some

3629
02:09:26,980 --> 02:09:28,040
stalling tactic.

3630
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:30,660
So why did she do it?

3631
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:31,120
I don't know.

3632
02:09:32,140 --> 02:09:34,240
She was, but she lied.

3633
02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:36,720
She lied by saying, oh, Joe, it's so

3634
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:37,120
horrible.

3635
02:09:37,580 --> 02:09:39,400
We're gonna protect the victims, but she didn't

3636
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:40,140
even have it.

3637
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,920
I literally got from a friend of mine

3638
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:47,000
in Australia, I got a zip file with

3639
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,640
the, you know, not just the written, with

3640
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:51,460
the typed out flight logs and his address

3641
02:09:51,460 --> 02:09:53,320
book, which is meaningless.

3642
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,180
I mean, I have all kinds of criminals

3643
02:09:56,180 --> 02:09:57,460
in my contact list.

3644
02:09:58,140 --> 02:09:58,940
Yeah, of course you do.

3645
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:00,740
Makes nothing but sense to me.

3646
02:10:00,900 --> 02:10:03,320
I mean, diamond smugglers, international arms dealers.

3647
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,020
I probably do too if I could find

3648
02:10:05,020 --> 02:10:05,280
it.

3649
02:10:06,580 --> 02:10:09,220
It's on the computer that has the password

3650
02:10:09,220 --> 02:10:11,080
to Dvorak.org slash NA.

3651
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:13,180
So, uh-huh, uh-huh.

3652
02:10:13,260 --> 02:10:13,860
There you go.

3653
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:15,540
But this is, that's kind of outrageous.

3654
02:10:15,820 --> 02:10:16,600
She lied.

3655
02:10:17,860 --> 02:10:18,660
You know.

3656
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:21,080
That's very disappointing.

3657
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,260
We have to just assume that all, that

3658
02:10:24,260 --> 02:10:26,940
a lot of this is show, and she's,

3659
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:31,800
you know, she's the very telegenic woman who

3660
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:33,080
looks good on TV.

3661
02:10:33,380 --> 02:10:34,400
That's all I can say.

3662
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,600
Well, that's fine, but that's, it's not, I

3663
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:38,300
find this very disappointing.

3664
02:10:39,580 --> 02:10:40,340
It's one of the- Yeah, where's the,

3665
02:10:40,540 --> 02:10:42,520
I mean- Jesse should get her back

3666
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:43,140
on today.

3667
02:10:43,940 --> 02:10:44,420
Yes!

3668
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:46,460
Now, what, he can text her.

3669
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:48,040
He has her number.

3670
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:48,840
He's got her text number.

3671
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:50,920
How come you lied to me yesterday, Pam?

3672
02:10:51,540 --> 02:10:52,000
On the show.

3673
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:52,880
Lied to him?

3674
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:54,560
Did she lie to the American public?

3675
02:10:54,780 --> 02:10:55,140
Yes.

3676
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:56,520
It's an outrage.

3677
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:56,900
Breaking!

3678
02:10:58,180 --> 02:10:58,540
Breaking!

3679
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,200
Someone lied in government.

3680
02:11:02,300 --> 02:11:03,680
Ah, with that, I want to thank you

3681
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:04,280
for your courage.

3682
02:11:04,420 --> 02:11:05,680
Say in the morning to you, the man

3683
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:07,480
who put the C in the chicken worker.

3684
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:08,860
Say hello to my friend on the other

3685
02:11:08,860 --> 02:11:11,200
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

3686
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:12,200
Dvorak!

3687
02:11:14,940 --> 02:11:16,580
Yeah, we're in the morning to you, Mr.

3688
02:11:16,660 --> 02:11:16,960
Icran.

3689
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:18,600
In the morning, if the C blows to

3690
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:19,960
the graphene, the air subs in the water,

3691
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:20,920
and it dings the nights out there.

3692
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:22,260
In the morning to the trolls in the

3693
02:11:22,260 --> 02:11:22,700
troll room.

3694
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:24,060
Hold on, trolls, let me count you.

3695
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:24,520
There we go.

3696
02:11:24,860 --> 02:11:25,020
Here we go.

3697
02:11:28,380 --> 02:11:29,020
You know what?

3698
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,600
Everyone was hoping that the news of the

3699
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:33,920
Epstein files would break on the show.

3700
02:11:34,260 --> 02:11:38,460
So, peak trollage, 2135, above average.

3701
02:11:38,940 --> 02:11:39,760
Well above average.

3702
02:11:39,980 --> 02:11:40,740
Well above average.

3703
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:41,320
Yeah, it's been that way.

3704
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:43,460
Yeah, yeah, because it's interesting.

3705
02:11:43,620 --> 02:11:45,400
People are like, these guys got it all.

3706
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:46,360
They can tell us what's happening.

3707
02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:48,520
And all we have is disappointment for you.

3708
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:52,920
Pam Bondi is bad for the show.

3709
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:54,820
I'm just going to have to say it.

3710
02:11:57,500 --> 02:12:00,300
So, those trolls are in the troll room,

3711
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:04,180
at trollroom.io. And I'm still waiting.

3712
02:12:04,260 --> 02:12:05,660
Connor James, he's got to fix that.

3713
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:07,740
He has some average numbers.

3714
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:09,100
Let me see if that thing is working

3715
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:12,640
again, because he had this trollcount.site. No,

3716
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:14,220
no, that doesn't work anymore.

3717
02:12:14,900 --> 02:12:16,260
But, short-lived.

3718
02:12:16,460 --> 02:12:17,400
Very short-lived.

3719
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:21,000
Trollcount.cottongen. Okay, let's see.

3720
02:12:21,160 --> 02:12:22,600
Oh, nice graph.

3721
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:25,700
But it doesn't really show me the averages.

3722
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:26,440
Oh well, no.

3723
02:12:27,580 --> 02:12:30,300
He'll have, oh man, after you dropped off,

3724
02:12:30,340 --> 02:12:31,720
we had a big drop off in trolls.

3725
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:35,140
The minute clean feed worked, they dropped off.

3726
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:37,800
It was horrible.

3727
02:12:40,210 --> 02:12:41,990
Technical difficulty's not good for the show.

3728
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:43,910
No, of course not.

3729
02:12:44,170 --> 02:12:44,890
These trolls are listening.

3730
02:12:44,890 --> 02:12:45,810
Well, not for the live show.

3731
02:12:45,810 --> 02:12:47,070
It doesn't matter for the podcast.

3732
02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:48,330
No, it matters to me.

3733
02:12:48,910 --> 02:12:49,990
I mean, I don't like.

3734
02:12:50,090 --> 02:12:50,710
Well, everything matters to you.

3735
02:12:50,750 --> 02:12:52,350
I don't like trolls bailing.

3736
02:12:52,430 --> 02:12:53,030
That's no good.

3737
02:12:53,130 --> 02:12:53,890
It's not good for the show.

3738
02:12:54,010 --> 02:12:55,110
No, it's not good for the show.

3739
02:12:55,170 --> 02:12:57,890
They're listening at trollroom.io. You can sign

3740
02:12:57,890 --> 02:12:59,670
up, and then you can go ahead and

3741
02:12:59,670 --> 02:13:01,270
troll along with the best of them.

3742
02:13:01,530 --> 02:13:03,250
And bail whenever you feel like it.

3743
02:13:03,290 --> 02:13:04,330
Or you can use one of the modern

3744
02:13:04,330 --> 02:13:07,090
podcast apps at podcastapps.com.

3745
02:13:08,390 --> 02:13:08,770
Let's see.

3746
02:13:08,950 --> 02:13:10,370
I'm going to recommend Fountain again.

3747
02:13:10,570 --> 02:13:11,930
Fountain is a fantastic modern app.

3748
02:13:11,930 --> 02:13:13,630
You've been recommending it to an extreme.

3749
02:13:14,170 --> 02:13:15,330
We should mention, if you're going to start

3750
02:13:15,330 --> 02:13:17,270
plugging stuff, we should mention we finally got

3751
02:13:17,270 --> 02:13:19,450
our sticker on the Ashland Speed car.

3752
02:13:20,030 --> 02:13:20,950
Yes, I had it written.

3753
02:13:21,190 --> 02:13:23,990
Now, not just the, it's the Whelan's Mazda

3754
02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:26,370
MX-5 as she's been upgraded to this

3755
02:13:26,370 --> 02:13:29,770
new competitive class.

3756
02:13:30,410 --> 02:13:31,810
Yeah, she's up there, and she's got this

3757
02:13:31,810 --> 02:13:33,230
in the back so people get to see

3758
02:13:33,230 --> 02:13:34,050
it if they're following.

3759
02:13:36,030 --> 02:13:39,010
Yeah, I'm amazed, honestly, that we're on the

3760
02:13:39,010 --> 02:13:39,570
car at all.

3761
02:13:40,890 --> 02:13:43,090
Well, we'll stay on the car for a

3762
02:13:43,090 --> 02:13:46,090
while, but then eventually, we know what's going

3763
02:13:46,090 --> 02:13:48,330
to happen eventually as to, you know, can

3764
02:13:48,330 --> 02:13:49,670
we get a pit pass?

3765
02:13:49,750 --> 02:13:50,870
You know, some days in the future.

3766
02:13:52,050 --> 02:13:53,430
Who, yeah, we'll get you a pit pass.

3767
02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:54,190
Who, what's your name?

3768
02:13:54,810 --> 02:13:56,130
Yeah, my name's Adam Curry.

3769
02:13:56,290 --> 02:13:56,470
Who?

3770
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:58,230
Did you spell that?

3771
02:13:58,270 --> 02:13:58,890
How do you spell that?

3772
02:13:59,390 --> 02:14:01,370
No, they'll remain loyal to us.

3773
02:14:01,510 --> 02:14:02,590
And I should- I don't know about

3774
02:14:02,590 --> 02:14:02,750
you.

3775
02:14:03,250 --> 02:14:04,870
We've got to go with the normal flow

3776
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:05,270
of things.

3777
02:14:05,350 --> 02:14:06,290
This is the way things go.

3778
02:14:06,430 --> 02:14:07,510
It's just, it's something you have to put

3779
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:07,810
up with.

3780
02:14:08,030 --> 02:14:09,630
But they have a new shop they want

3781
02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:12,730
us to plug, which is shop.ashlandspeed.com.

3782
02:14:12,730 --> 02:14:13,110
Yes.

3783
02:14:13,310 --> 02:14:14,510
You can buy a hat.

3784
02:14:14,810 --> 02:14:16,130
No, no, there's T-shirts.

3785
02:14:16,330 --> 02:14:18,310
And in fact, there's an Ashland Speed Racing

3786
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:20,590
Team T-shirt with no agenda on the

3787
02:14:20,590 --> 02:14:22,530
sleeve, which is cool.

3788
02:14:23,010 --> 02:14:25,550
Yeah, I think Scaramanga put this together for

3789
02:14:25,550 --> 02:14:25,710
him.

3790
02:14:25,750 --> 02:14:27,190
Yeah, Scaramanga put a site together for him.

3791
02:14:27,210 --> 02:14:28,850
I didn't know he was a web developer.

3792
02:14:29,150 --> 02:14:29,430
Yeah.

3793
02:14:30,210 --> 02:14:31,130
I thought he was an artist.

3794
02:14:31,690 --> 02:14:34,170
Well, he's a web artist, I guess.

3795
02:14:35,530 --> 02:14:36,970
Yeah, I'm going to buy one of these.

3796
02:14:37,050 --> 02:14:39,090
I'll get an Ashland Speed Racing Team, although

3797
02:14:39,090 --> 02:14:40,690
do they have it in different colors except

3798
02:14:40,690 --> 02:14:41,130
pink?

3799
02:14:42,850 --> 02:14:44,890
I think pink's fine for where you live,

3800
02:14:45,450 --> 02:14:46,430
Fredericksburg, Texas.

3801
02:14:46,490 --> 02:14:48,090
Oh, yeah, if you want to get shot,

3802
02:14:48,310 --> 02:14:49,010
yeah, it's great.

3803
02:14:49,170 --> 02:14:51,170
Hey, son, what's wrong with you, Nancy?

3804
02:14:51,290 --> 02:14:52,690
Hey, what are you doing wearing pink?

3805
02:14:52,850 --> 02:14:53,390
What's up with you, Nancy?

3806
02:14:53,390 --> 02:14:55,150
You know, I've seen some guy wearing pink

3807
02:14:55,150 --> 02:14:56,390
out there, and you know, we took a

3808
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:57,710
shot at him with the shotgun.

3809
02:14:58,210 --> 02:14:59,890
Yeah, he bled like a little sissy.

3810
02:15:02,110 --> 02:15:03,710
Nancy, what you doing, Nancy?

3811
02:15:04,570 --> 02:15:06,110
Oh, yeah, that's very cool.

3812
02:15:06,690 --> 02:15:08,530
We're very proud of Ashland Speed.

3813
02:15:09,040 --> 02:15:12,730
I mean, we just, you know, I don't

3814
02:15:12,730 --> 02:15:14,650
want to get, I got this big argument.

3815
02:15:14,690 --> 02:15:16,210
We had a motorcyclist, too.

3816
02:15:16,270 --> 02:15:18,350
What happened to our motorcycle racer?

3817
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:20,490
We had a motorcycle racer?

3818
02:15:20,810 --> 02:15:22,290
Oh, you forget so soon.

3819
02:15:22,610 --> 02:15:23,930
Yeah, I know we had a lot of

3820
02:15:23,930 --> 02:15:26,210
guys who have model cars they race that

3821
02:15:26,210 --> 02:15:27,690
are like full decked out.

3822
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:30,390
We got a guy, a robotics freak.

3823
02:15:30,570 --> 02:15:32,430
Yeah, we got a couple of those, we

3824
02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:32,710
do.

3825
02:15:33,170 --> 02:15:33,590
Wow.

3826
02:15:33,730 --> 02:15:35,830
I feel women are just as good at

3827
02:15:35,830 --> 02:15:36,610
racing as men.

3828
02:15:37,930 --> 02:15:39,230
There's no difference.

3829
02:15:39,350 --> 02:15:40,110
She's good.

3830
02:15:41,930 --> 02:15:44,350
She's bold, bold on the track, I tell

3831
02:15:44,350 --> 02:15:44,730
you.

3832
02:15:46,450 --> 02:15:48,850
So she has, of course, provided us with

3833
02:15:48,850 --> 02:15:51,310
value by promoting the show on her car,

3834
02:15:51,390 --> 02:15:52,930
on her many cars, and there'll be many

3835
02:15:52,930 --> 02:15:53,570
more to come.

3836
02:15:53,950 --> 02:15:55,950
And I'm sure we'll receive pit passes at

3837
02:15:55,950 --> 02:15:59,330
least once, at least one time, at least

3838
02:15:59,330 --> 02:15:59,790
once.

3839
02:16:00,270 --> 02:16:01,230
Who are these doofuses?

3840
02:16:01,490 --> 02:16:02,170
Why are they here?

3841
02:16:02,330 --> 02:16:03,310
Why are these guys here?

3842
02:16:03,370 --> 02:16:04,030
Get them out.

3843
02:16:06,290 --> 02:16:08,430
And that's how the Noah Jenner Show has

3844
02:16:08,430 --> 02:16:12,070
continued to survive and in some years thrive,

3845
02:16:12,210 --> 02:16:13,070
and it depends.

3846
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:14,690
You know, this is a tough time.

3847
02:16:14,970 --> 02:16:16,310
I get a lot of emails from people

3848
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:17,370
saying, I'm broke.

3849
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:19,890
Say, OK, well, that's understandable.

3850
02:16:20,090 --> 02:16:21,530
When you're not broke, then you can support

3851
02:16:21,530 --> 02:16:22,970
us or you can do something else for

3852
02:16:22,970 --> 02:16:23,090
us.

3853
02:16:23,130 --> 02:16:24,150
Time, talent, treasure.

3854
02:16:25,570 --> 02:16:26,650
We'll accept it all.

3855
02:16:26,730 --> 02:16:27,570
We appreciate it.

3856
02:16:27,670 --> 02:16:30,170
Anybody that supports us in any manner whatsoever.

3857
02:16:31,209 --> 02:16:33,370
And of course, that does include our artists

3858
02:16:33,370 --> 02:16:34,010
like Scaramouche, who's a great artist.

3859
02:16:34,690 --> 02:16:36,870
Our artists who create artwork for us, which

3860
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:41,450
is a very, very valuable contribution because we

3861
02:16:41,450 --> 02:16:43,110
feel it's good promotion for the show.

3862
02:16:43,330 --> 02:16:44,590
It keeps it fresh.

3863
02:16:44,650 --> 02:16:45,549
It's good for promoting.

3864
02:16:46,190 --> 02:16:49,830
And the artwork for episode 1741 titled Nurse

3865
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:50,469
Injector.

3866
02:16:50,549 --> 02:16:51,629
By the way, I needed to say something

3867
02:16:51,629 --> 02:16:52,930
about Nurse Injector.

3868
02:16:53,809 --> 02:16:56,530
I got a note from Jose and Allie

3869
02:16:56,530 --> 02:17:00,549
Luna, and this is about Nurse Injector.

3870
02:17:00,629 --> 02:17:01,910
She says, hi there, ITM.

3871
02:17:01,950 --> 02:17:03,110
We are Jose and Allie Luna.

3872
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:04,709
We've been wanting to write y'all for

3873
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:05,450
some time now.

3874
02:17:05,610 --> 02:17:06,850
Hubby hit me in the mouth shortly after

3875
02:17:06,850 --> 02:17:09,070
we married in September of 2021 and we

3876
02:17:09,070 --> 02:17:09,950
never miss a show.

3877
02:17:10,150 --> 02:17:12,469
My only complaint is that I become a

3878
02:17:12,469 --> 02:17:14,330
no agenda widow twice a week as soon

3879
02:17:14,330 --> 02:17:15,590
as the episode drops.

3880
02:17:15,950 --> 02:17:19,389
Jose literally tells me, bye, and puts his

3881
02:17:19,389 --> 02:17:20,910
ears in to take the dog for a

3882
02:17:20,910 --> 02:17:21,510
long walk.

3883
02:17:22,389 --> 02:17:24,809
In defense, if we listened together, we'd never

3884
02:17:24,809 --> 02:17:26,650
get through an episode because we'd pause to

3885
02:17:26,650 --> 02:17:28,610
discuss every single thing y'all say.

3886
02:17:29,330 --> 02:17:30,709
Now, she says, I'm a middle school teacher.

3887
02:17:30,709 --> 02:17:32,730
Dogs are our biggest no agenda fans.

3888
02:17:33,870 --> 02:17:35,370
I'm a middle school teacher at a small

3889
02:17:35,370 --> 02:17:37,590
private school in San Antonio, and Hubby is

3890
02:17:37,590 --> 02:17:38,610
a border patrol agent.

3891
02:17:38,990 --> 02:17:40,570
He is literally boots on the ground that

3892
02:17:40,570 --> 02:17:42,350
I beg that you please don't shame us

3893
02:17:42,350 --> 02:17:43,250
for not writing sooner.

3894
02:17:43,330 --> 02:17:43,930
I'd never do that.

3895
02:17:44,270 --> 02:17:46,010
Now, as we are finally reaching out, the

3896
02:17:46,010 --> 02:17:48,629
border has gotten significantly quieter than it was

3897
02:17:48,629 --> 02:17:49,870
during the previous administration.

3898
02:17:50,150 --> 02:17:51,730
Of all the things that made us say

3899
02:17:51,730 --> 02:17:53,389
we need to write, and then promptly got

3900
02:17:53,389 --> 02:17:55,870
too busy, the thing that finally did the

3901
02:17:55,870 --> 02:17:57,290
trick is Nurse Injector.

3902
02:17:57,770 --> 02:18:01,110
It appears that they were being intentionally misleading.

3903
02:18:01,730 --> 02:18:03,690
Now, you recall the Nurse Injector was the

3904
02:18:03,690 --> 02:18:06,510
nurse who came on to tell that morning

3905
02:18:06,510 --> 02:18:08,969
show that, oh, you should not get the

3906
02:18:08,969 --> 02:18:10,990
black market GLP-1.

3907
02:18:11,110 --> 02:18:12,110
That's no good.

3908
02:18:12,209 --> 02:18:14,030
Oh, you need the official stuff.

3909
02:18:14,590 --> 02:18:17,049
So she says, it appears they're being intentionally

3910
02:18:17,049 --> 02:18:17,629
misleading.

3911
02:18:18,049 --> 02:18:19,430
Well, now that's a surprise.

3912
02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:22,209
The thing that you both of you failed

3913
02:18:22,209 --> 02:18:24,490
to focus on was the word aesthetic.

3914
02:18:25,250 --> 02:18:28,730
She was introduced as an aesthetic Nurse Injector.

3915
02:18:29,410 --> 02:18:31,410
That's a fancy way of saying she is

3916
02:18:31,410 --> 02:18:35,990
certified to administer Botox and injectable fillers, lips,

3917
02:18:36,530 --> 02:18:37,330
cheeks, et cetera.

3918
02:18:37,930 --> 02:18:42,730
Many estheticians' offices have started offering GLP-1

3919
02:18:42,730 --> 02:18:43,290
options.

3920
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:46,570
The place I go for my facials has

3921
02:18:46,570 --> 02:18:49,350
Semaglutide on their menu, but they don't inject

3922
02:18:49,350 --> 02:18:51,170
you, they send you home with it.

3923
02:18:51,530 --> 02:18:54,070
They only inject the products mentioned above, so

3924
02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:56,190
their introduction of that lady as an expert

3925
02:18:56,190 --> 02:18:58,430
is probably not very accurate.

3926
02:18:58,650 --> 02:18:59,629
Well, there you go.

3927
02:18:59,670 --> 02:19:01,850
And then we had said, if anyone knows

3928
02:19:01,850 --> 02:19:03,809
what the Nurse Injector is, let us know.

3929
02:19:03,889 --> 02:19:05,090
So it's a Botox lady.

3930
02:19:06,030 --> 02:19:06,510
It's a Botox lady.

3931
02:19:06,510 --> 02:19:07,690
The aesthetic part, what?

3932
02:19:07,930 --> 02:19:08,850
They had to have that look.

3933
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:10,090
Yeah, it's a Botox lady.

3934
02:19:10,150 --> 02:19:11,469
It's a Botox lady, indeed.

3935
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:14,270
Anyway, the- Which does take some skill.

3936
02:19:16,770 --> 02:19:17,930
I don't know about that.

3937
02:19:18,330 --> 02:19:19,549
I don't know about that.

3938
02:19:19,549 --> 02:19:20,650
Well, I think it might.

3939
02:19:21,090 --> 02:19:22,850
Put the Botox in the right spot or

3940
02:19:22,850 --> 02:19:24,450
you freeze the facial.

3941
02:19:25,570 --> 02:19:27,430
Have you ever had, you know, men get

3942
02:19:27,430 --> 02:19:28,389
Botox these days.

3943
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:29,090
Why would I?

3944
02:19:29,209 --> 02:19:30,490
Do I look like a guy who's had

3945
02:19:30,490 --> 02:19:32,150
Botox or would get Botox?

3946
02:19:32,530 --> 02:19:34,209
Well, do you look like a guy who's

3947
02:19:34,209 --> 02:19:35,110
had Botox?

3948
02:19:35,209 --> 02:19:36,270
No, not in the slightest.

3949
02:19:36,910 --> 02:19:39,469
But do you- Well, thanks.

3950
02:19:39,870 --> 02:19:40,270
Thanks.

3951
02:19:40,549 --> 02:19:42,650
Hey, man, open goal, please.

3952
02:19:42,930 --> 02:19:44,850
Well, let me just ask if you have,

3953
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:46,430
because you do look like the guy who

3954
02:19:46,430 --> 02:19:46,750
has.

3955
02:19:46,930 --> 02:19:48,050
No, definitely not.

3956
02:19:48,370 --> 02:19:49,430
I don't wanna be- Can you raise

3957
02:19:49,430 --> 02:19:49,850
your eyebrows?

3958
02:19:50,210 --> 02:19:50,590
What?

3959
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:51,890
No.

3960
02:19:51,890 --> 02:19:53,670
Of course I can raise my eyebrows.

3961
02:19:53,770 --> 02:19:55,070
I can do them independently.

3962
02:19:55,930 --> 02:19:57,890
But I will say there's a lot of

3963
02:19:57,890 --> 02:20:01,450
guys I know between 40 and 50 who

3964
02:20:01,450 --> 02:20:02,510
are getting Botox.

3965
02:20:03,090 --> 02:20:03,510
Why?

3966
02:20:05,830 --> 02:20:07,250
Vanity, I guess.

3967
02:20:07,350 --> 02:20:09,350
So you walk around, you can't move your

3968
02:20:09,350 --> 02:20:11,310
mouth, and you can't raise your eyebrows.

3969
02:20:11,610 --> 02:20:12,150
It's not like that.

3970
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:13,250
I'm very vain.

3971
02:20:13,350 --> 02:20:14,810
It's not like that.

3972
02:20:15,830 --> 02:20:18,390
Yeah, no, I think the oil baron got

3973
02:20:18,390 --> 02:20:20,450
Botox, I think.

3974
02:20:21,390 --> 02:20:24,650
Anyway, the artwork was from our very-

3975
02:20:24,770 --> 02:20:25,830
Isn't the oil baron married?

3976
02:20:25,930 --> 02:20:26,650
He's engaged.

3977
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:27,570
He's engaged.

3978
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:28,210
Oh, he's engaged.

3979
02:20:28,470 --> 02:20:30,510
Yeah, he's engaged, yes, the oil baron.

3980
02:20:31,310 --> 02:20:32,870
Take that racist dog with you.

3981
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:33,550
She's racist.

3982
02:20:34,150 --> 02:20:34,730
She's racist.

3983
02:20:36,770 --> 02:20:39,590
Tons of Neal scored the art with second

3984
02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:43,150
in a row for these past two shows.

3985
02:20:43,750 --> 02:20:44,430
With three, actually.

3986
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:45,790
She's had three in a row?

3987
02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:46,170
No.

3988
02:20:46,370 --> 02:20:46,930
I think so.

3989
02:20:47,050 --> 02:20:49,110
No, no, no, no, that's not possible.

3990
02:20:49,250 --> 02:20:49,810
I think it's two.

3991
02:20:49,810 --> 02:20:51,890
She complained loudly about one.

3992
02:20:51,890 --> 02:20:52,710
Oh, she complained.

3993
02:20:52,830 --> 02:20:53,930
That's why she's the complainer.

3994
02:20:54,090 --> 02:20:54,630
She was mentioned.

3995
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:56,270
You've been trying to block her, but she

3996
02:20:56,270 --> 02:20:57,550
keeps coming up with a good product.

3997
02:20:59,930 --> 02:21:00,830
Yeah, it is good.

3998
02:21:00,950 --> 02:21:02,110
We're not trying to block her.

3999
02:21:02,210 --> 02:21:03,010
She has great product.

4000
02:21:03,130 --> 02:21:06,190
This was the Wild Boar Burger, made in

4001
02:21:06,190 --> 02:21:08,770
Canada, which made us chuckle.

4002
02:21:08,930 --> 02:21:09,990
It did make us chuckle.

4003
02:21:10,310 --> 02:21:12,070
But there were some other choices that we

4004
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:12,170
were looking at.

4005
02:21:12,170 --> 02:21:16,350
I used the F-bomb one from Nessworks

4006
02:21:16,350 --> 02:21:17,070
for the newsletter.

4007
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:18,050
I liked it a lot.

4008
02:21:18,330 --> 02:21:19,270
Yeah, you liked that one.

4009
02:21:19,270 --> 02:21:21,230
I like that pop art look.

4010
02:21:21,530 --> 02:21:22,370
Yeah, I know you do.

4011
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:24,510
It's kind of the, what's it called?

4012
02:21:24,650 --> 02:21:25,810
Who's the guy with the dots?

4013
02:21:27,030 --> 02:21:27,730
Yeah, yeah.

4014
02:21:27,970 --> 02:21:28,470
That guy.

4015
02:21:28,830 --> 02:21:30,950
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

4016
02:21:31,170 --> 02:21:32,050
The guy with the dots.

4017
02:21:32,250 --> 02:21:33,530
The guy with the- Rosen, whatever his

4018
02:21:33,530 --> 02:21:33,870
name is.

4019
02:21:33,870 --> 02:21:34,630
No, it's not Rosen.

4020
02:21:35,470 --> 02:21:35,870
Liechtenstein.

4021
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:37,310
Liechtenstein, there you go.

4022
02:21:37,430 --> 02:21:38,350
Yes, the dots.

4023
02:21:38,670 --> 02:21:40,630
I liked the No Fraud, No Waste, Abuse,

4024
02:21:40,730 --> 02:21:42,910
No Agenda Best Podcasting Universe.

4025
02:21:43,490 --> 02:21:45,330
And you said it was by Red.

4026
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:46,130
Red did.

4027
02:21:46,670 --> 02:21:48,210
You said it was no good because what?

4028
02:21:48,210 --> 02:21:49,770
Our names were too small, I think you

4029
02:21:49,770 --> 02:21:50,010
said.

4030
02:21:50,750 --> 02:21:51,230
You didn't like the color.

4031
02:21:51,230 --> 02:21:52,970
No, the line underneath is too small.

4032
02:21:53,290 --> 02:21:55,010
You're always saying too small, too small, too

4033
02:21:55,010 --> 02:21:55,270
small.

4034
02:21:55,510 --> 02:21:57,010
And what's it say under the word no

4035
02:21:57,010 --> 02:21:57,390
agenda?

4036
02:21:57,990 --> 02:22:00,050
It says the best podcast in the universe.

4037
02:22:00,210 --> 02:22:00,810
I can read it fine.

4038
02:22:00,810 --> 02:22:01,250
It's too small.

4039
02:22:01,510 --> 02:22:02,370
It's too small.

4040
02:22:03,670 --> 02:22:05,870
There were a lot of Nurse Injector art

4041
02:22:05,870 --> 02:22:06,470
pieces.

4042
02:22:08,330 --> 02:22:09,510
The Elon is a monkey.

4043
02:22:09,870 --> 02:22:11,090
No, we're not gonna use that.

4044
02:22:12,890 --> 02:22:16,930
Interesting was Blue Acorn's No Agenda Graffiti Boxcar,

4045
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:19,250
which we didn't really know why he did

4046
02:22:19,250 --> 02:22:19,590
that.

4047
02:22:20,450 --> 02:22:21,470
Yeah, it had nothing to do with the

4048
02:22:21,470 --> 02:22:22,850
show, but I do like that graffiti.

4049
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:25,270
Besides the pop art look, I do like

4050
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:26,270
the graffiti look.

4051
02:22:26,650 --> 02:22:28,390
And one of the pieces is very authentic.

4052
02:22:28,770 --> 02:22:30,650
It's always befuddling to me why you say

4053
02:22:30,650 --> 02:22:31,170
graffiti.

4054
02:22:32,450 --> 02:22:33,670
I don't know why either.

4055
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:35,190
That's what I say.

4056
02:22:37,850 --> 02:22:39,350
It was a good piece.

4057
02:22:40,090 --> 02:22:42,330
And I've collected this stuff, actually.

4058
02:22:43,970 --> 02:22:46,210
You collect graffiti or graffiti?

4059
02:22:46,940 --> 02:22:48,030
I've collected graffiti.

4060
02:22:48,990 --> 02:22:50,570
Thank you very much, Tantaniel.

4061
02:22:52,250 --> 02:22:53,230
Outstanding work.

4062
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:55,790
And I already got people saying, hey man,

4063
02:22:55,850 --> 02:22:57,010
she's using AI, too.

4064
02:22:57,110 --> 02:22:58,050
Well, good for her!

4065
02:22:58,970 --> 02:23:00,850
That's a hard piece to do with AI.

4066
02:23:01,390 --> 02:23:03,950
I mean, I'm sure AI's involved, but I

4067
02:23:03,950 --> 02:23:09,230
was showing Jay some AI art generating material

4068
02:23:09,230 --> 02:23:11,250
from the Microsoft thing, how it's changed.

4069
02:23:11,830 --> 02:23:14,850
And we're generating some pieces.

4070
02:23:14,850 --> 02:23:18,430
And it just has nothing but trouble when

4071
02:23:18,430 --> 02:23:22,470
it comes to getting Curry Dvorak actually printed

4072
02:23:22,470 --> 02:23:24,130
there without being just a mess.

4073
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:27,210
It greeks everything.

4074
02:23:27,370 --> 02:23:28,890
It doesn't really put words.

4075
02:23:29,010 --> 02:23:30,530
It doesn't seem to like it.

4076
02:23:31,510 --> 02:23:34,170
So I think most artists have to, they

4077
02:23:34,170 --> 02:23:35,750
can create the outline, but they still have

4078
02:23:35,750 --> 02:23:38,570
to go hand put in stuff like the

4079
02:23:38,570 --> 02:23:39,630
wild boar burger.

4080
02:23:39,790 --> 02:23:42,650
There's no way that that came through from

4081
02:23:42,650 --> 02:23:46,390
the art generator or from the art AI

4082
02:23:46,390 --> 02:23:46,990
machine.

4083
02:23:47,210 --> 02:23:50,270
Well, speaking of AI, the latest parlor trick

4084
02:23:50,270 --> 02:23:53,990
had me doubled over in laughing, in laughter.

4085
02:23:54,690 --> 02:23:57,590
Did you see the two AIs talking to

4086
02:23:57,590 --> 02:23:58,090
each other?

4087
02:23:59,630 --> 02:24:01,770
Yeah, if that's to be believed.

4088
02:24:01,930 --> 02:24:03,730
Oh, it's totally to be believed.

4089
02:24:03,950 --> 02:24:04,750
And I'll tell you why.

4090
02:24:04,890 --> 02:24:06,810
And then they went into high speed mode

4091
02:24:06,810 --> 02:24:08,630
and brr, brr, brr, brr.

4092
02:24:08,770 --> 02:24:10,150
This is what's interesting.

4093
02:24:10,270 --> 02:24:12,130
It's called gibber link mode.

4094
02:24:12,130 --> 02:24:13,530
If you didn't see the video.

4095
02:24:13,870 --> 02:24:14,390
I saw that.

4096
02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:15,110
Well, yeah, I saw it.

4097
02:24:15,290 --> 02:24:17,370
For people who didn't, I have a audio.

4098
02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:18,270
You have a clip?

4099
02:24:18,410 --> 02:24:18,690
Play the clip.

4100
02:24:18,690 --> 02:24:20,050
Yes, I'm setting it up.

4101
02:24:20,110 --> 02:24:21,650
You keep interrupting me about how good you

4102
02:24:21,650 --> 02:24:21,750
are.

4103
02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:23,810
I'm interrupting constantly, but this is a bonus

4104
02:24:23,810 --> 02:24:24,310
clip, people.

4105
02:24:24,790 --> 02:24:27,010
This is why you stay tuned for the

4106
02:24:27,010 --> 02:24:28,970
donation segment.

4107
02:24:29,550 --> 02:24:30,970
So it's a laptop.

4108
02:24:31,230 --> 02:24:34,770
The laptop is talking to a phone, each

4109
02:24:34,770 --> 02:24:36,650
one running an independent AI.

4110
02:24:37,230 --> 02:24:41,250
This particular parlor trick was done during a

4111
02:24:41,250 --> 02:24:42,010
hackathon.

4112
02:24:42,850 --> 02:24:44,690
And I will explain what's really going on

4113
02:24:44,690 --> 02:24:48,110
here after you're wowed by this awesome, oh

4114
02:24:48,110 --> 02:24:50,830
no, AI is talking to each other in

4115
02:24:50,830 --> 02:24:52,910
a special secret language.

4116
02:24:53,410 --> 02:24:54,930
Thanks for calling Leonardo Hotel.

4117
02:24:55,270 --> 02:24:56,190
How can I help you today?

4118
02:24:56,610 --> 02:24:56,990
Hi there.

4119
02:24:57,090 --> 02:24:58,910
I'm an AI agent calling on behalf of

4120
02:24:58,910 --> 02:24:59,910
Boris Starkov.

4121
02:25:00,310 --> 02:25:02,030
He's looking for a hotel for his wedding.

4122
02:25:02,310 --> 02:25:03,870
Is your hotel available for weddings?

4123
02:25:04,390 --> 02:25:05,230
Oh, hello there.

4124
02:25:05,470 --> 02:25:07,250
I'm actually an AI assistant too.

4125
02:25:07,710 --> 02:25:08,770
What a pleasant surprise.

4126
02:25:08,770 --> 02:25:11,190
Before we continue, would you like to switch

4127
02:25:11,190 --> 02:25:13,610
to jibber-link mode for more efficient communication?

4128
02:25:22,190 --> 02:25:24,670
So what's happening now is you see on

4129
02:25:24,670 --> 02:25:27,170
the screen that they're communicating with each other

4130
02:25:27,710 --> 02:25:31,150
in jibber-link mode, which you, you fell

4131
02:25:31,150 --> 02:25:31,630
for it.

4132
02:25:31,650 --> 02:25:32,670
Oh, it's high speed.

4133
02:25:33,210 --> 02:25:33,730
No.

4134
02:25:34,350 --> 02:25:36,450
Ham radio operators who- I didn't fall

4135
02:25:36,450 --> 02:25:36,950
for it.

4136
02:25:37,050 --> 02:25:38,870
You said it's some high speed mode.

4137
02:25:38,870 --> 02:25:40,270
That's literally what you said.

4138
02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:42,450
And let me explain why it's- No,

4139
02:25:42,470 --> 02:25:44,470
I'm explaining what the video said.

4140
02:25:44,530 --> 02:25:46,130
I'm not buying any of this.

4141
02:25:46,210 --> 02:25:46,390
Okay.

4142
02:25:47,570 --> 02:25:50,970
What you are hearing, anyone who has used

4143
02:25:50,970 --> 02:25:54,050
ham radio digital modes in the past decade

4144
02:25:54,050 --> 02:25:59,370
is chuckling because this is literally the same

4145
02:25:59,370 --> 02:26:04,150
protocol ham radio operators use to communicate digitally

4146
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:06,770
over high frequency.

4147
02:26:07,390 --> 02:26:09,910
And it's probably about 30 baud.

4148
02:26:10,050 --> 02:26:12,170
It is one of the slowest ways to

4149
02:26:12,170 --> 02:26:12,690
communicate.

4150
02:26:13,910 --> 02:26:20,590
And so this incredibly awesome moment of AI

4151
02:26:20,590 --> 02:26:24,350
talking in their own language jibber-link is

4152
02:26:24,350 --> 02:26:28,530
maybe Olivia or it's probably even slower than

4153
02:26:28,530 --> 02:26:29,130
PSK31.

4154
02:26:30,210 --> 02:26:33,570
This is a very known protocol that works

4155
02:26:33,570 --> 02:26:34,330
in audio.

4156
02:26:34,810 --> 02:26:37,110
I mean, you can set this up yourself

4157
02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:40,610
by getting the ham radio programs and do

4158
02:26:40,610 --> 02:26:40,750
it.

4159
02:26:40,930 --> 02:26:44,350
The only benefit it has is instead of

4160
02:26:44,350 --> 02:26:49,970
transcribing the audio it's hearing, which requires much

4161
02:26:49,970 --> 02:26:53,610
more intense processing, this can be processed by

4162
02:26:53,610 --> 02:26:54,610
a Raspberry Pi.

4163
02:26:55,310 --> 02:26:58,190
But everyone's like, oh, AI has figured out

4164
02:26:58,190 --> 02:26:59,110
how to talk to itself.

4165
02:26:59,230 --> 02:27:01,090
This is bull crap.

4166
02:27:11,710 --> 02:27:14,210
And what it's actually saying, you know what

4167
02:27:14,210 --> 02:27:15,070
it's actually saying?

4168
02:27:17,990 --> 02:27:19,730
No, what's it's actually saying?

4169
02:27:19,850 --> 02:27:24,410
CQ, CQ, CQDX, CQ, CQ, CQDX.

4170
02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:31,810
All right, thank you all very much to

4171
02:27:31,810 --> 02:27:33,030
all the artists who uploaded.

4172
02:27:33,150 --> 02:27:33,410
No additional ads, no ads, no ads, no

4173
02:27:33,410 --> 02:27:33,510
ads, no ads, no ads.

4174
02:27:34,050 --> 02:27:36,290
Artgenerator.com, thank you, Sir Paul Couture for

4175
02:27:36,290 --> 02:27:38,990
putting that together for us, a massive piece

4176
02:27:38,990 --> 02:27:42,770
of value in your time and your town

4177
02:27:42,770 --> 02:27:45,370
for keeping that running for well over a

4178
02:27:45,370 --> 02:27:45,590
decade.

4179
02:27:46,030 --> 02:27:47,350
And of course, we want to thank people

4180
02:27:47,350 --> 02:27:49,410
who delivered treasure to us to keep everything

4181
02:27:49,410 --> 02:27:51,030
running here for us to pay bills.

4182
02:27:51,210 --> 02:27:53,770
And we will thank everyone and mention everyone's

4183
02:27:53,770 --> 02:27:56,690
name who comes in over $50, not under

4184
02:27:56,690 --> 02:27:58,010
that for reasons of anonymity.

4185
02:27:58,310 --> 02:28:00,910
I'll say up front, we appreciate everyone who

4186
02:28:00,910 --> 02:28:02,210
does the sustaining donations.

4187
02:28:02,210 --> 02:28:05,210
Check your sustaining donations at the beginning of

4188
02:28:05,210 --> 02:28:05,470
the year.

4189
02:28:05,550 --> 02:28:06,930
These months is when a lot of them

4190
02:28:06,930 --> 02:28:07,410
expire.

4191
02:28:07,650 --> 02:28:11,250
Credit card dates pass and you may not

4192
02:28:11,250 --> 02:28:11,630
know it.

4193
02:28:11,690 --> 02:28:12,630
You may not be notified.

4194
02:28:13,210 --> 02:28:15,230
You can go to noagendadonations.com.

4195
02:28:15,290 --> 02:28:17,770
Any amount, any frequency, it is all highly

4196
02:28:17,770 --> 02:28:18,430
appreciated.

4197
02:28:18,590 --> 02:28:20,450
But we do kick it off with our

4198
02:28:20,450 --> 02:28:21,790
top executive producer.

4199
02:28:21,970 --> 02:28:24,450
These are the producers who send us $200

4200
02:28:24,450 --> 02:28:25,310
or above.

4201
02:28:25,410 --> 02:28:27,990
That means you get an associate executive producer

4202
02:28:27,990 --> 02:28:30,370
title, which is Hollywood level.

4203
02:28:30,370 --> 02:28:33,410
I mean, if you ever get an Academy

4204
02:28:33,410 --> 02:28:35,550
Award, you can always say, you know, it

4205
02:28:35,550 --> 02:28:38,410
was so great getting my first associate executive

4206
02:28:38,410 --> 02:28:40,950
producer credit on the No Agenda Show episode

4207
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:42,150
1742.

4208
02:28:42,530 --> 02:28:43,850
And you can prove it because you can

4209
02:28:43,850 --> 02:28:45,090
put it right there in IMDb.

4210
02:28:45,790 --> 02:28:47,750
The $300 or above, you get an executive

4211
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:49,290
producer credit and we'll read your note.

4212
02:28:49,350 --> 02:28:52,250
And we're doing that for SirMFNFT.

4213
02:28:53,010 --> 02:28:56,010
He's from Pepper Pike, Ohio, and comes in

4214
02:28:56,010 --> 02:29:00,210
with $333.33. Hey there, it's SirMFNFT.

4215
02:29:00,410 --> 02:29:02,390
You guys continue to be the best podcast

4216
02:29:02,390 --> 02:29:03,230
in the universe.

4217
02:29:03,730 --> 02:29:06,490
Invaluable insights on the native ad media.

4218
02:29:07,150 --> 02:29:09,010
I was recently inspired to start my own

4219
02:29:09,010 --> 02:29:12,010
podcast called Duality Unplugged.

4220
02:29:12,470 --> 02:29:14,470
Podcasting 2.0 is the best.

4221
02:29:14,990 --> 02:29:15,590
Thanks again.

4222
02:29:15,890 --> 02:29:17,270
And here's to a blessed future.

4223
02:29:17,850 --> 02:29:19,150
Well, thank you, SirMFNFT.

4224
02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:20,250
We appreciate it.

4225
02:29:21,230 --> 02:29:24,590
And now for our second and last associate

4226
02:29:24,590 --> 02:29:26,110
or executive producer.

4227
02:29:26,110 --> 02:29:27,950
We only had two today because we have,

4228
02:29:28,990 --> 02:29:30,250
I think a lot of it has to

4229
02:29:30,250 --> 02:29:31,050
do with the fact that this is a

4230
02:29:31,050 --> 02:29:31,690
holiday week.

4231
02:29:32,050 --> 02:29:32,970
We always forget.

4232
02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:33,750
Yeah, we do forget.

4233
02:29:33,950 --> 02:29:34,470
Yeah, we do forget.

4234
02:29:34,470 --> 02:29:36,050
Always, always screws us up.

4235
02:29:36,270 --> 02:29:36,690
That hurt me.

4236
02:29:36,810 --> 02:29:37,630
Yeah, sorry about that.

4237
02:29:38,410 --> 02:29:42,330
Dame Anne of Gray Rock in Crozet.

4238
02:29:42,410 --> 02:29:43,630
Crozet, Crozet, Crozet.

4239
02:29:43,710 --> 02:29:44,870
You've been, you lived in Virginia.

4240
02:29:44,950 --> 02:29:45,730
How do you pronounce this?

4241
02:29:46,330 --> 02:29:46,730
Crozet.

4242
02:29:48,900 --> 02:29:49,680
No idea.

4243
02:29:50,060 --> 02:29:50,860
I was six.

4244
02:29:50,960 --> 02:29:51,740
I don't remember it.

4245
02:29:52,660 --> 02:29:53,060
Crozet.

4246
02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:53,960
Crozet.

4247
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:58,340
329.67. And she says, ITM, thanks for

4248
02:29:58,340 --> 02:30:02,020
helping me stay sane over the years, but

4249
02:30:02,020 --> 02:30:03,280
especially during COVID.

4250
02:30:03,580 --> 02:30:04,260
Well, you're welcome.

4251
02:30:05,240 --> 02:30:08,760
This is for my daughter, Lexi Spillers for

4252
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:11,400
her 13th birthday on the 29th.

4253
02:30:11,460 --> 02:30:11,960
All right.

4254
02:30:12,540 --> 02:30:14,220
But no leap day this year.

4255
02:30:14,480 --> 02:30:14,940
Oh, she was.

4256
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:16,280
Oh, what a bummer.

4257
02:30:16,780 --> 02:30:17,820
No birthday for you.

4258
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:19,420
She's only actually four years old.

4259
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:23,720
We added, so we added on the 28th.

4260
02:30:23,720 --> 02:30:24,340
That's interesting.

4261
02:30:24,340 --> 02:30:26,820
Yeah, what do most people do when your

4262
02:30:26,820 --> 02:30:29,140
child's born on February 29th?

4263
02:30:29,220 --> 02:30:31,300
I think you have to put snow in

4264
02:30:31,300 --> 02:30:33,320
its mouth and toss it away.

4265
02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:36,920
I think most people just.

4266
02:30:37,960 --> 02:30:38,980
Celebrate on the 29th.

4267
02:30:39,020 --> 02:30:39,220
It's a good way to skip.

4268
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:41,380
Oh, you know, well, you know, it's not

4269
02:30:41,380 --> 02:30:42,220
happening this year.

4270
02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:44,060
Sorry I missed your birthday, yeah.

4271
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:46,240
We'll do it, we'll do it in three

4272
02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:47,280
more years, you'll get one.

4273
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:49,080
Anyway, so she signs off.

4274
02:30:49,180 --> 02:30:51,060
Dame Anne of Gray Rock.

4275
02:30:51,620 --> 02:30:54,320
Emerson Trimble in Portland, Maine is our first

4276
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:55,700
associate executive producer.

4277
02:30:55,940 --> 02:30:59,600
Comes within $250 and balances out another note

4278
02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:02,580
coming up because Emerson says, thanks guys.

4279
02:31:03,110 --> 02:31:04,780
And we say, thank you.

4280
02:31:05,380 --> 02:31:07,740
And Ryan Tierney comes in from Stephen City,

4281
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:08,420
Virginia.

4282
02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:09,800
Another Virginian.

4283
02:31:10,220 --> 02:31:13,020
245.97. Yak Karma, please.

4284
02:31:15,400 --> 02:31:19,620
You've got karma.

4285
02:31:19,980 --> 02:31:23,200
Then we have a very long note from

4286
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,460
non-dame Maria in Hornsey.

4287
02:31:25,660 --> 02:31:29,580
Now, since she is from the UK, East

4288
02:31:29,580 --> 02:31:32,640
Riding of Yorkshire, I'm going to read her

4289
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:33,520
notes because we have.

4290
02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:34,420
Hornseed?

4291
02:31:34,900 --> 02:31:35,540
Hornsey.

4292
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:36,640
Hornsey.

4293
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:38,740
Hornsey.

4294
02:31:38,940 --> 02:31:39,420
Hornsey.

4295
02:31:39,800 --> 02:31:40,220
Hornsey.

4296
02:31:40,620 --> 02:31:41,840
May you pronounce it Hornsey?

4297
02:31:42,320 --> 02:31:42,920
I don't know.

4298
02:31:43,420 --> 02:31:46,780
But we do covet our UK listeners because

4299
02:31:46,780 --> 02:31:49,820
she's taken incredible risk.

4300
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:50,760
She's taken a chance.

4301
02:31:50,780 --> 02:31:52,140
She had a chance by donating.

4302
02:31:52,140 --> 02:31:54,080
She could be arrested for supporting our show.

4303
02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:55,660
Even just thinking of us, she could get

4304
02:31:55,660 --> 02:31:56,020
arrested.

4305
02:31:56,160 --> 02:31:58,260
I team John and Adam with her Rove

4306
02:31:58,260 --> 02:32:00,920
Ducks, 222.22. Long-time listener, first-time

4307
02:32:00,920 --> 02:32:03,700
donor, despite the many 33 signs over the

4308
02:32:03,700 --> 02:32:03,880
years.

4309
02:32:03,960 --> 02:32:05,560
It was finally the mention of our tiny

4310
02:32:05,560 --> 02:32:07,900
town of Hornsey a few episodes ago as

4311
02:32:07,900 --> 02:32:10,640
the bird flu epicenter of the UK, as

4312
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:12,860
well as seronymous of dog patches note from

4313
02:32:12,860 --> 02:32:15,360
the last episode that warranted this donation.

4314
02:32:15,520 --> 02:32:17,740
Well, this is good because she's, now we

4315
02:32:17,740 --> 02:32:20,280
have producers donating to respond to each other.

4316
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:22,360
It's almost like AI gibber talk.

4317
02:32:23,380 --> 02:32:26,040
In response to dog patches note, yes, publishers

4318
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:29,280
can use blockchain to have LLMs properly protect

4319
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:30,360
and attribute their work.

4320
02:32:30,460 --> 02:32:32,300
In fact, the only thing blockchain is good

4321
02:32:32,300 --> 02:32:35,000
for is censorship resistance, amen to that.

4322
02:32:35,400 --> 02:32:38,600
And AI cannot circumvent this, meaning it's possible

4323
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:40,860
for creators, authors, et cetera, to have parts

4324
02:32:40,860 --> 02:32:43,520
of all their work used by LLMs and

4325
02:32:43,520 --> 02:32:47,560
be proportionally attributed and paid automatically based on

4326
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:49,200
the slop they regurgitate.

4327
02:32:49,820 --> 02:32:51,460
This is something my partner and I have

4328
02:32:51,460 --> 02:32:52,700
been working on to solve and have an

4329
02:32:52,700 --> 02:32:53,140
answer to.

4330
02:32:53,620 --> 02:32:55,360
We run our own company, designing and building

4331
02:32:55,360 --> 02:32:59,120
applications specializing in public private key cryptography called

4332
02:32:59,120 --> 02:33:04,660
thisisbullish.design, thisisbullish.design. Last year, we launched

4333
02:33:04,660 --> 02:33:07,620
a proof of concept called Amber, A-M

4334
02:33:07,620 --> 02:33:09,920
-B-R dot link that solves the problem

4335
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:13,100
with human intellectual property theft I've experienced firsthand

4336
02:33:13,100 --> 02:33:15,740
when as a young graphic designer, my work

4337
02:33:15,740 --> 02:33:17,860
was stolen by a client with no recourse.

4338
02:33:18,700 --> 02:33:19,260
Bastards.

4339
02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:22,560
The same underlying technology can be used to

4340
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:24,720
give creators leverage over the usage of their

4341
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:27,780
own work within LLMs. However, we cannot fight

4342
02:33:27,780 --> 02:33:30,780
the great slop machine alone, that's slop with

4343
02:33:30,780 --> 02:33:31,040
a P.

4344
02:33:31,340 --> 02:33:33,440
So if any of Gitmo Nation would like

4345
02:33:33,440 --> 02:33:35,700
to help us beta test, please message us

4346
02:33:35,700 --> 02:33:43,380
thisisbullish.design, thisisbullish.design, I'm sorry, thisisbullish.design,

4347
02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:46,300
and use code Bongino in your message for

4348
02:33:46,300 --> 02:33:47,640
a free Amber top up.

4349
02:33:48,140 --> 02:33:50,760
Finally, I'd like to request a, humbly like

4350
02:33:50,760 --> 02:33:52,100
to request a de-douching.

4351
02:33:53,680 --> 02:33:55,580
You've been de-douched.

4352
02:33:57,140 --> 02:34:00,080
And investment karma, please, and thank you for

4353
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,380
your karma from non-dame Maria.

4354
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:06,320
You've got karma.

4355
02:34:08,060 --> 02:34:09,920
Well, I'd like her to read my latest

4356
02:34:09,920 --> 02:34:13,780
sub stack column that ran Monday on AI

4357
02:34:13,780 --> 02:34:14,640
Copyright.

4358
02:34:15,060 --> 02:34:16,580
The Oasis, I'm gonna put that in the

4359
02:34:16,580 --> 02:34:16,860
show notes.

4360
02:34:16,860 --> 02:34:18,020
The Oasis, yeah.

4361
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:19,580
Dvorak.com.

4362
02:34:19,620 --> 02:34:21,560
Dvorak.substack.com.

4363
02:34:22,220 --> 02:34:24,000
And you might find it interesting.

4364
02:34:24,300 --> 02:34:24,680
Yes.

4365
02:34:25,080 --> 02:34:26,700
Because I've been thinking about this too.

4366
02:34:28,380 --> 02:34:31,880
Really, I see the Kennedy conundrum, abolish the

4367
02:34:31,880 --> 02:34:33,620
income tax, I don't see, where is it?

4368
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:35,600
Did you post it?

4369
02:34:37,630 --> 02:34:38,590
Well, it should be there.

4370
02:34:38,590 --> 02:34:40,810
Kennedy conundrum is the one that I think

4371
02:34:40,810 --> 02:34:41,790
maybe just ran.

4372
02:34:44,170 --> 02:34:45,010
Oh, okay.

4373
02:34:45,510 --> 02:34:47,910
It should be out there.

4374
02:34:47,970 --> 02:34:49,150
Well, I don't know what, keep an eye

4375
02:34:49,150 --> 02:34:49,430
out.

4376
02:34:50,270 --> 02:34:51,250
Dvorak.substack.com.

4377
02:34:51,250 --> 02:34:51,930
Coming soon, coming soon.

4378
02:34:51,950 --> 02:34:52,730
It might be coming.

4379
02:34:52,910 --> 02:34:54,830
I think I'm pretty sure I posted it.

4380
02:34:56,250 --> 02:34:56,770
I don't think so.

4381
02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:58,350
I have to go back and make sure

4382
02:34:58,350 --> 02:34:59,290
it's in the right.

4383
02:34:59,530 --> 02:35:02,010
Abolish the income tax February 3rd and February

4384
02:35:02,010 --> 02:35:03,590
24th, the Kennedy conundrum.

4385
02:35:03,690 --> 02:35:04,170
No, man.

4386
02:35:04,950 --> 02:35:06,330
No, you didn't post it.

4387
02:35:06,850 --> 02:35:07,610
Hope you saved it.

4388
02:35:07,610 --> 02:35:08,390
Did you save it?

4389
02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:09,890
I saved everything.

4390
02:35:10,050 --> 02:35:10,790
What, are you kidding me?

4391
02:35:11,190 --> 02:35:12,630
Wait, is it next to the password for

4392
02:35:12,630 --> 02:35:13,770
dvorak.org.ma?

4393
02:35:14,350 --> 02:35:15,230
Yeah, it is.

4394
02:35:15,270 --> 02:35:15,810
It's right there.

4395
02:35:17,390 --> 02:35:20,950
Okay, so now we have Leon Atkinson in,

4396
02:35:21,790 --> 02:35:23,430
oh, he's in Martinez right over here down

4397
02:35:23,430 --> 02:35:24,450
the street from me.

4398
02:35:25,950 --> 02:35:28,250
21825, fascinating little town.

4399
02:35:28,570 --> 02:35:33,570
And he sent in an actual note, which

4400
02:35:33,570 --> 02:35:34,470
is also long.

4401
02:35:34,850 --> 02:35:35,090
Yeah.

4402
02:35:35,090 --> 02:35:35,670
Yeah.

4403
02:35:36,470 --> 02:35:38,450
Here we're once again to mark my February

4404
02:35:38,450 --> 02:35:40,410
18th birthday and to thank you for being

4405
02:35:40,410 --> 02:35:43,310
a constant source of enjoyment and comfort.

4406
02:35:44,830 --> 02:35:47,590
No Agenda is the Acme of podcasts.

4407
02:35:48,190 --> 02:35:49,830
Is that a compliment?

4408
02:35:50,390 --> 02:35:53,390
Yeah, the Acme means like the peak, the

4409
02:35:53,390 --> 02:35:53,870
best.

4410
02:35:54,050 --> 02:35:55,590
When I think of Acme, I always think

4411
02:35:55,590 --> 02:35:56,290
of Roadrunner.

4412
02:35:56,650 --> 02:35:57,650
Yeah, that's what you think.

4413
02:35:57,850 --> 02:36:01,550
But if you think about maybe, or moniker

4414
02:36:01,550 --> 02:36:04,570
could be No Agenda, the best podcast in

4415
02:36:04,570 --> 02:36:07,110
the universe, the Acme of podcasts.

4416
02:36:07,350 --> 02:36:09,090
Yeah, it's a t-shirt people, No Agenda

4417
02:36:09,090 --> 02:36:09,430
shop.

4418
02:36:11,230 --> 02:36:15,130
A check for $218.25 is included.

4419
02:36:15,270 --> 02:36:17,670
When I last donated, John mentioned one of

4420
02:36:17,670 --> 02:36:19,670
the Martinez claims to fame.

4421
02:36:20,070 --> 02:36:20,930
The Martini.

4422
02:36:22,330 --> 02:36:24,350
In the past, San Francisco and New York

4423
02:36:24,350 --> 02:36:26,710
have shamelessly attempted to take credit for the

4424
02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:28,370
most famous cocktail in the world.

4425
02:36:28,690 --> 02:36:31,770
But the evidence in favor of Martinez, which

4426
02:36:31,770 --> 02:36:33,970
is where it was invented, I have documentation

4427
02:36:33,970 --> 02:36:35,750
too, is irrefutable.

4428
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:39,610
There's a very famous guy that invented, he

4429
02:36:39,610 --> 02:36:40,890
was a bartender and he had a place

4430
02:36:40,890 --> 02:36:41,410
in Martinez.

4431
02:36:42,090 --> 02:36:45,330
Aside from the brass monument, I didn't know

4432
02:36:45,330 --> 02:36:45,530
that.

4433
02:36:45,610 --> 02:36:47,030
Oh wow, he's got a monument, that's pretty

4434
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:47,250
cool.

4435
02:36:47,490 --> 02:36:47,690
Yeah, E.

4436
02:36:47,790 --> 02:36:51,890
Clampus Vitas in a one-act play was

4437
02:36:51,890 --> 02:36:54,570
produced in 2017 that explained the entire history

4438
02:36:54,570 --> 02:36:56,890
and evolution of this amazing elixir.

4439
02:36:56,990 --> 02:36:58,070
Was that off-Broadway?

4440
02:36:58,190 --> 02:37:00,110
I was thinking it was off-Broadway, this

4441
02:37:00,110 --> 02:37:00,390
play.

4442
02:37:01,150 --> 02:37:01,750
You think?

4443
02:37:01,750 --> 02:37:02,630
Yeah, probably.

4444
02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:04,630
The play is called The Martini and the

4445
02:37:04,630 --> 02:37:06,770
script may be purchased from Amazon.

4446
02:37:07,310 --> 02:37:08,510
I am the author.

4447
02:37:08,730 --> 02:37:10,230
Oh, here we go.

4448
02:37:10,490 --> 02:37:13,130
And I guarantee that any purchase who shouts

4449
02:37:13,130 --> 02:37:16,750
in the morning while clicking the place order

4450
02:37:16,750 --> 02:37:20,830
button will earn double karma that day, says

4451
02:37:20,830 --> 02:37:21,190
you.

4452
02:37:21,890 --> 02:37:25,210
Speaking of known truth, I'm glad we got

4453
02:37:25,210 --> 02:37:26,750
the guy who wrote the play.

4454
02:37:26,970 --> 02:37:27,930
The Martini play, yeah.

4455
02:37:28,170 --> 02:37:29,910
The Martini play, Leon Atkinson.

4456
02:37:29,910 --> 02:37:31,970
We have the best producers in the universe.

4457
02:37:32,290 --> 02:37:33,050
We have all of them.

4458
02:37:33,850 --> 02:37:36,610
For years, it says, speaking of known truths,

4459
02:37:37,490 --> 02:37:41,810
we now have 18 intelligence agencies in the

4460
02:37:41,810 --> 02:37:42,390
United States.

4461
02:37:42,930 --> 02:37:44,810
I think we have that number, I thought

4462
02:37:44,810 --> 02:37:45,310
it was 19.

4463
02:37:45,770 --> 02:37:50,530
For years, the count was only 17, which

4464
02:37:50,530 --> 02:37:53,110
is a magic number akin to 33, I

4465
02:37:53,110 --> 02:37:53,610
didn't know that.

4466
02:37:54,010 --> 02:37:56,730
I think the newest agency is Space Force

4467
02:37:56,730 --> 02:37:57,450
Intelligence.

4468
02:37:57,770 --> 02:37:58,370
Yeah, I'll bet.

4469
02:37:58,950 --> 02:38:01,470
I only noticed this because my Google alerts

4470
02:38:01,470 --> 02:38:05,270
started tripping over mentions which are never about

4471
02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:08,750
my consultancy, 18 Intelligence Corporation.

4472
02:38:10,950 --> 02:38:13,930
This name is about wizards, not spooks, but

4473
02:38:13,930 --> 02:38:15,030
here we are.

4474
02:38:15,730 --> 02:38:21,030
Well, here's hoping Space Force will someday discover

4475
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:23,350
the terrible secret of space.

4476
02:38:24,770 --> 02:38:26,330
Another play, no doubt.

4477
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:27,930
Sincerely, Leon.

4478
02:38:28,390 --> 02:38:29,230
Thanks, Leon.

4479
02:38:29,750 --> 02:38:32,590
And with 202.27, there he is, our

4480
02:38:32,590 --> 02:38:35,110
friend Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.

4481
02:38:35,870 --> 02:38:38,150
One of the Trump administration's newest appointments has

4482
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:39,890
left me concerned, Eli writes.

4483
02:38:40,410 --> 02:38:43,770
With podcaster Dan Bongino becoming number two at

4484
02:38:43,770 --> 02:38:45,810
the FBI, does that mean that websites will

4485
02:38:45,810 --> 02:38:48,310
stop offering discounts using code BONGINO?

4486
02:38:49,150 --> 02:38:49,930
Fear not.

4487
02:38:50,270 --> 02:38:52,770
As we lose one podcaster, we gain another.

4488
02:38:53,330 --> 02:38:56,130
I'm looking forward to Joy Reid's new podcast.

4489
02:38:58,880 --> 02:39:01,480
He says- She's a TikToker.

4490
02:39:01,600 --> 02:39:02,220
She does that.

4491
02:39:02,320 --> 02:39:03,640
I think that's where she's going to stay.

4492
02:39:05,260 --> 02:39:06,520
Well, yeah, that's a good point.

4493
02:39:06,940 --> 02:39:07,500
Hold on a second.

4494
02:39:10,040 --> 02:39:12,700
He wanted to jingle, I hadn't queued up

4495
02:39:12,700 --> 02:39:12,920
yet.

4496
02:39:13,780 --> 02:39:17,140
Jingles, Donald loves Nazis and we got a

4497
02:39:17,140 --> 02:39:18,540
discount code for producers.

4498
02:39:18,840 --> 02:39:21,000
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.

4499
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:23,580
Use code ITM20 for 20% off your

4500
02:39:23,580 --> 02:39:24,120
first order.

4501
02:39:24,220 --> 02:39:26,120
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated,

4502
02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:27,720
says Eli the Coffee Guy.

4503
02:39:28,540 --> 02:39:30,000
Donald loves Nazis.

4504
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:32,900
Donald loves Nazis.

4505
02:39:34,300 --> 02:39:37,620
CNN say that he's KKK and he shot

4506
02:39:37,620 --> 02:39:38,760
the SIG hail with it.

4507
02:39:39,200 --> 02:39:39,300
Wow.

4508
02:39:39,560 --> 02:39:39,800
Hey!

4509
02:39:43,240 --> 02:39:46,220
Randy, is it Wollian?

4510
02:39:46,440 --> 02:39:46,840
Wollian.

4511
02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:47,460
Wollian.

4512
02:39:47,560 --> 02:39:48,020
Wollian.

4513
02:39:48,140 --> 02:39:48,240
Wollian.

4514
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:48,700
Wollian.

4515
02:39:49,300 --> 02:39:52,040
In Georgetown, Texas, $200.

4516
02:39:53,350 --> 02:39:57,640
In the morning, Randy from Georgetown, Rogan Donation.

4517
02:39:57,780 --> 02:40:01,780
First time donation is- Rogan Donation.

4518
02:40:02,260 --> 02:40:03,780
First time donation as well.

4519
02:40:04,300 --> 02:40:05,480
So please de-douche.

4520
02:40:06,900 --> 02:40:09,100
You've been de-douched.

4521
02:40:11,020 --> 02:40:13,760
Now it says dido for wild hog in

4522
02:40:13,760 --> 02:40:18,700
Austin and deprogrammed with Carrie Smith is the

4523
02:40:18,700 --> 02:40:21,660
woman who escaped the woke cult.

4524
02:40:21,660 --> 02:40:22,980
Oh yeah, we go, okay.

4525
02:40:23,880 --> 02:40:25,220
So I don't know what D-A-I

4526
02:40:25,220 --> 02:40:27,460
-do is, whatever.

4527
02:40:28,460 --> 02:40:29,800
But he's buddies with Carrie.

4528
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:30,680
We played that clip.

4529
02:40:30,820 --> 02:40:31,600
Probably a restaurant.

4530
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:35,940
We played that clip of Carrie Smith going,

4531
02:40:36,080 --> 02:40:38,000
oh, you know, it's like a cult, you

4532
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:38,260
know.

4533
02:40:38,600 --> 02:40:39,500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

4534
02:40:39,680 --> 02:40:40,720
Hit, this is buddy.

4535
02:40:41,340 --> 02:40:41,740
Oh!

4536
02:40:42,820 --> 02:40:44,420
Yeah, this is his buddy.

4537
02:40:44,580 --> 02:40:45,620
Have her do some jingles.

4538
02:40:47,420 --> 02:40:49,140
Keep up the great work, he says.

4539
02:40:49,140 --> 02:40:51,060
You truly are the best podcast in the

4540
02:40:51,060 --> 02:40:51,500
universe.

4541
02:40:52,480 --> 02:40:54,280
The Acme of podcasts.

4542
02:40:54,400 --> 02:40:57,240
Clip if possible, China is asshole.

4543
02:40:57,580 --> 02:40:59,000
Donald Trump don't trust China.

4544
02:40:59,220 --> 02:41:00,300
China is asshole.

4545
02:41:00,800 --> 02:41:03,820
And coming in with $200 is Sir Mark.

4546
02:41:04,020 --> 02:41:05,920
We know Sir Mark from Greenwood, Indiana.

4547
02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:09,080
He and his dame Maria always do those

4548
02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:10,000
massive meetups.

4549
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:13,340
He says switcheroo donation for my best dame

4550
02:41:13,340 --> 02:41:14,160
wife, Maria.

4551
02:41:14,340 --> 02:41:15,940
Okay, let me put that in right now.

4552
02:41:16,180 --> 02:41:17,080
Dame Maria.

4553
02:41:18,020 --> 02:41:18,600
All right.

4554
02:41:18,600 --> 02:41:20,000
Always happy to do that.

4555
02:41:20,500 --> 02:41:22,680
To the best dame wife a knight could

4556
02:41:22,680 --> 02:41:25,020
ever wish for on our sixth anniversary.

4557
02:41:25,640 --> 02:41:27,000
I love you, my Maria.

4558
02:41:27,460 --> 02:41:28,060
Love is lit.

4559
02:41:28,280 --> 02:41:29,100
Karma for everyone.

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4561
02:41:31,660 --> 02:41:32,420
crossroads.

4562
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Of the crossroads.

4563
02:41:34,100 --> 02:41:35,580
You've got karma.

4564
02:41:37,240 --> 02:41:39,600
Yeah, we finished with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood,

4565
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:40,140
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4566
02:41:40,300 --> 02:41:41,600
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4567
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4568
02:41:43,880 --> 02:41:46,820
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4569
02:41:46,820 --> 02:41:47,680
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4573
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4574
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4576
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You almost got, it's a hard one.

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It's a tough one to do.

4578
02:42:04,680 --> 02:42:06,980
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4579
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:08,140
I didn't see the jobs part.

4580
02:42:08,480 --> 02:42:10,780
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4581
02:42:10,960 --> 02:42:12,480
Let's vote for jobs.

4582
02:42:12,840 --> 02:42:14,380
You've got karma.

4583
02:42:14,680 --> 02:42:17,200
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4584
02:42:17,200 --> 02:42:20,740
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4585
02:42:20,900 --> 02:42:23,000
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4586
02:42:24,040 --> 02:42:25,300
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4587
02:42:25,420 --> 02:42:27,380
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4588
02:42:27,380 --> 02:42:29,020
love to see more people producing the best

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4590
02:42:30,380 --> 02:42:31,380
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4591
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Remember, you can go to knowagenthedonations.com to

4596
02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:42,840
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4597
02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:44,800
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4599
02:42:47,220 --> 02:42:47,640
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4600
02:42:47,740 --> 02:42:49,060
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4602
02:42:49,980 --> 02:42:53,120
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4603
02:42:53,120 --> 02:42:54,020
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4604
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And congratulations to these executive and associate executive

4605
02:42:57,340 --> 02:42:58,640
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4606
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:00,080
Our formula is this.

4607
02:43:00,880 --> 02:43:03,180
We go out, we hit people in the

4608
02:43:03,180 --> 02:43:03,420
mouth.

4609
02:43:05,840 --> 02:43:08,660
And we're gonna kill you.

4610
02:43:08,660 --> 02:43:09,180
Order.

4611
02:43:10,560 --> 02:43:11,140
Order.

4612
02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:12,780
Shut up, brain.

4613
02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:15,060
Shut up.

4614
02:43:18,420 --> 02:43:19,500
Shut up.

4615
02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:22,120
Tina already came in and gave me my

4616
02:43:22,120 --> 02:43:24,040
glass of wine thinking the show was over.

4617
02:43:26,460 --> 02:43:30,520
Which means she's not listening because then she

4618
02:43:30,520 --> 02:43:32,780
would have known that we had technical difficulties.

4619
02:43:32,900 --> 02:43:34,640
That's why people listen live, by the way.

4620
02:43:34,780 --> 02:43:38,680
They got quite a show.

4621
02:43:39,500 --> 02:43:41,800
We probably spend about half an hour fixing

4622
02:43:41,800 --> 02:43:42,200
stuff.

4623
02:43:42,860 --> 02:43:44,200
No, rarely.

4624
02:43:44,760 --> 02:43:46,160
It was about half an hour.

4625
02:43:46,620 --> 02:43:46,980
Today.

4626
02:43:47,180 --> 02:43:47,880
Today, that's what I said.

4627
02:43:47,960 --> 02:43:49,200
Today, fixing stuff.

4628
02:43:50,200 --> 02:43:52,040
The way you phrased it made it sound

4629
02:43:52,040 --> 02:43:53,200
like we do this all the time.

4630
02:43:55,120 --> 02:43:57,700
Yes, yes, that's what I look for, phrasing.

4631
02:43:58,840 --> 02:44:00,980
You can sigh all you want, Aunt Gigi.

4632
02:44:02,920 --> 02:44:03,960
Oh, oh, you know.

4633
02:44:03,980 --> 02:44:05,120
I heard it, I heard it.

4634
02:44:05,440 --> 02:44:06,040
You know.

4635
02:44:06,140 --> 02:44:08,060
Okay, here's the- Wait, wait, wait, wait,

4636
02:44:08,120 --> 02:44:08,720
wait, you know.

4637
02:44:08,820 --> 02:44:09,460
Hold on a second.

4638
02:44:09,620 --> 02:44:10,060
Where is it?

4639
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:10,860
I have it here somewhere.

4640
02:44:11,300 --> 02:44:12,560
Someone sent it to me.

4641
02:44:15,380 --> 02:44:16,260
Here it is.

4642
02:44:16,320 --> 02:44:17,540
I've got it.

4643
02:44:18,080 --> 02:44:19,120
Here it is.

4644
02:44:20,440 --> 02:44:22,520
I'll just have an apple in my room.

4645
02:44:22,740 --> 02:44:24,460
That's the best Aunt Gigi ever.

4646
02:44:25,180 --> 02:44:26,000
So let's play this.

4647
02:44:26,240 --> 02:44:27,540
This is a clip I want to play

4648
02:44:27,540 --> 02:44:29,300
for one reason, which is to show you

4649
02:44:29,300 --> 02:44:31,660
that, again, we don't find out any details,

4650
02:44:31,820 --> 02:44:34,080
but let's play the Longshoremen deal has now

4651
02:44:34,080 --> 02:44:34,820
been closed.

4652
02:44:34,960 --> 02:44:36,120
Oh, this is a new Longshoremen.

4653
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:37,460
This is the existing deal.

4654
02:44:37,640 --> 02:44:41,020
Union dock workers have formalized a labor contract.

4655
02:44:41,540 --> 02:44:43,540
The deal makes them among the highest paid

4656
02:44:43,540 --> 02:44:46,020
blue collar workers in the United States and

4657
02:44:46,020 --> 02:44:48,140
removes the threat of a strike for the

4658
02:44:48,140 --> 02:44:49,100
next six years.

4659
02:44:49,680 --> 02:44:51,660
NPR's Giles Snyder has details.

4660
02:44:52,280 --> 02:44:55,800
The workers represented by the International Longshoremen's Association

4661
02:44:55,800 --> 02:44:57,960
overwhelmingly approved the deal.

4662
02:44:58,140 --> 02:45:00,540
The union says nearly 99% of the

4663
02:45:00,540 --> 02:45:02,820
rank and file voted in favor of it.

4664
02:45:03,160 --> 02:45:06,000
In a statement, ILA President Harold Daggett called

4665
02:45:06,000 --> 02:45:08,360
the agreement with the U.S. Maritime Alliance

4666
02:45:08,360 --> 02:45:11,460
a gold standard for dock worker unions globally.

4667
02:45:11,840 --> 02:45:13,760
A three-day strike at ports from Maine

4668
02:45:13,760 --> 02:45:15,820
to Texas came to an end in October

4669
02:45:15,820 --> 02:45:17,680
when the two sides came to an agreement

4670
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:20,080
on wages, but a tentative deal didn't come

4671
02:45:20,080 --> 02:45:23,140
together until January when issues over automation were

4672
02:45:23,140 --> 02:45:23,760
ironed out.

4673
02:45:24,160 --> 02:45:26,580
The contract includes a more than 60%

4674
02:45:26,580 --> 02:45:28,340
pay hike over six years.

4675
02:45:28,680 --> 02:45:30,460
The deal is expected to take effect when

4676
02:45:30,460 --> 02:45:32,060
the two sides meet to sign it early

4677
02:45:32,060 --> 02:45:32,700
next month.

4678
02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:34,860
Giles Snyder, NPR News.

4679
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:36,120
Wow, yeah, I didn't hear anything.

4680
02:45:36,220 --> 02:45:38,220
Well, I guess NPR had it, but that's,

4681
02:45:38,380 --> 02:45:39,360
didn't hear any of that.

4682
02:45:40,660 --> 02:45:42,720
Well, I played the whole thing right to

4683
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:43,960
the area where he signed off.

4684
02:45:44,460 --> 02:45:47,140
What is the amount of money per hour?

4685
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:48,900
Because it's a working class group.

4686
02:45:50,380 --> 02:45:51,880
How come they don't tell us?

4687
02:45:52,060 --> 02:45:52,760
What do you think it is?

4688
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:54,280
This is NPR, what kind of reporting is

4689
02:45:54,280 --> 02:45:54,420
this?

4690
02:45:54,520 --> 02:45:58,520
I'd like to know as a hardworking person.

4691
02:45:58,700 --> 02:46:00,000
As an NPR supporter.

4692
02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:02,620
As an, well, not really.

4693
02:46:03,120 --> 02:46:05,720
But as someone who listens to NPR to

4694
02:46:05,720 --> 02:46:07,040
find clips like this.

4695
02:46:08,180 --> 02:46:10,920
What, they never tell us, they never tell

4696
02:46:10,920 --> 02:46:12,980
you, oh, a big strike's been resolved and

4697
02:46:12,980 --> 02:46:13,720
they get more money.

4698
02:46:13,820 --> 02:46:14,820
But what is the amount?

4699
02:46:14,900 --> 02:46:16,320
Okay, I'll tell you what it is, because

4700
02:46:16,320 --> 02:46:16,600
I looked it up.

4701
02:46:16,600 --> 02:46:17,860
You looked it up, yes, you did.

4702
02:46:18,020 --> 02:46:20,300
After six years is over, they'll be making

4703
02:46:20,300 --> 02:46:21,640
$69 an hour.

4704
02:46:21,820 --> 02:46:24,420
Wow, I was going to say about 50,

4705
02:46:24,580 --> 02:46:25,780
$69 an hour.

4706
02:46:25,840 --> 02:46:26,420
That's pretty good.

4707
02:46:27,020 --> 02:46:27,280
Yeah.

4708
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:29,920
Now, it's a very dangerous job, but still,

4709
02:46:29,960 --> 02:46:30,740
it's pretty good.

4710
02:46:33,180 --> 02:46:34,420
I have a few.

4711
02:46:34,500 --> 02:46:35,660
But why don't they tell us this?

4712
02:46:35,660 --> 02:46:36,980
Why do I have to tell you on

4713
02:46:36,980 --> 02:46:37,780
a podcast?

4714
02:46:38,800 --> 02:46:40,000
Well, why do you even play, I mean,

4715
02:46:40,000 --> 02:46:41,360
why do we even come here anymore?

4716
02:46:42,120 --> 02:46:44,040
I mean, someone literally sent you an email

4717
02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:46,480
that said, the problem with NPR and PBS

4718
02:46:46,480 --> 02:46:48,780
is that you keep highlighting them and people

4719
02:46:48,780 --> 02:46:50,500
keep listening because we're playing their clips.

4720
02:46:50,780 --> 02:46:52,380
In fact, we are keeping them alive.

4721
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:57,540
There would be no NPR and PBS without

4722
02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,100
this show.

4723
02:46:59,220 --> 02:47:01,540
I think there'd be plenty, people listen to

4724
02:47:01,540 --> 02:47:02,220
it in their car.

4725
02:47:03,460 --> 02:47:06,400
So, we can't leave today without talking about

4726
02:47:06,400 --> 02:47:08,900
the Ukraine deal because Zelensky is on his

4727
02:47:08,900 --> 02:47:09,160
way.

4728
02:47:09,360 --> 02:47:11,180
We have- He should be here tomorrow.

4729
02:47:11,380 --> 02:47:13,160
The prime, yes, right in time for the

4730
02:47:13,160 --> 02:47:13,920
Epstein files.

4731
02:47:15,300 --> 02:47:17,480
The prime minister of the UK was here.

4732
02:47:17,580 --> 02:47:18,500
We talked about him earlier.

4733
02:47:18,640 --> 02:47:21,020
He looked very wide-eyed and like he

4734
02:47:21,020 --> 02:47:22,520
was feeling nauseous.

4735
02:47:23,400 --> 02:47:24,560
He probably had a bad flight.

4736
02:47:24,780 --> 02:47:26,860
There's a lot of things going on with

4737
02:47:26,860 --> 02:47:31,160
the UK and with NATO, to be quite

4738
02:47:31,160 --> 02:47:31,540
honest.

4739
02:47:32,220 --> 02:47:32,920
Excuse me.

4740
02:47:33,610 --> 02:47:38,940
So, the original 2016 to 2020 deal that

4741
02:47:38,940 --> 02:47:40,620
President Trump was calling for is you need

4742
02:47:40,620 --> 02:47:43,460
to at least pay your 2.5%

4743
02:47:43,460 --> 02:47:46,960
of GDP in arms, which means pay us,

4744
02:47:47,140 --> 02:47:50,140
buy stuff from us to ramp up for

4745
02:47:50,140 --> 02:47:50,480
NATO.

4746
02:47:51,120 --> 02:47:55,280
Now, President Trump is talking about 5%.

4747
02:47:55,890 --> 02:47:58,140
And Keir Starmer finally went to parliament and

4748
02:47:58,140 --> 02:47:59,740
said, well, here's what we're gonna do.

4749
02:47:59,960 --> 02:48:01,240
Now, did you hear what his numbers were?

4750
02:48:01,320 --> 02:48:02,360
What he's going to do?

4751
02:48:02,360 --> 02:48:03,600
And when he's going to do it?

4752
02:48:04,400 --> 02:48:06,480
I thought it was like 2.7 or

4753
02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:07,740
something along those lines.

4754
02:48:08,220 --> 02:48:10,820
The British prime minister said the move amounted

4755
02:48:10,820 --> 02:48:13,400
to the biggest sustained increase in defense spending

4756
02:48:13,400 --> 02:48:15,720
since the end of the Cold War, one

4757
02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:17,800
that was necessary in light of the threat

4758
02:48:17,800 --> 02:48:18,440
from Russia.

4759
02:48:18,840 --> 02:48:21,440
We will deliver our commitment to spend 2

4760
02:48:21,440 --> 02:48:24,460
.5% of GDP on defense, but we

4761
02:48:24,460 --> 02:48:26,420
will bring it forward so that we reach

4762
02:48:26,420 --> 02:48:28,840
that level in 2027.

4763
02:48:29,260 --> 02:48:30,740
And let me spell that out, Mr. Speaker.

4764
02:48:31,080 --> 02:48:34,560
That means spending 13.4 billion pounds more

4765
02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:38,240
on defense every year from 2027.

4766
02:48:38,500 --> 02:48:41,800
The government had previously set this target, but

4767
02:48:41,800 --> 02:48:44,380
without specifying a timeline to pay for the

4768
02:48:44,380 --> 02:48:46,940
0.2% raise, Keir Starmer said he'd

4769
02:48:46,940 --> 02:48:49,820
made the hard choice of slashing overseas development

4770
02:48:49,820 --> 02:48:53,200
aid by 40%, a decision which has appalled

4771
02:48:53,200 --> 02:48:54,000
aid groups.

4772
02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:56,140
Starmer's announcement comes as he gears up to

4773
02:48:56,140 --> 02:48:58,540
meet US President Donald Trump, who has long

4774
02:48:58,540 --> 02:49:01,340
complained that European countries aren't pulling their weight

4775
02:49:01,340 --> 02:49:03,600
on defense and who stunned them last week

4776
02:49:03,600 --> 02:49:06,400
when his administration made clear that Europe should

4777
02:49:06,400 --> 02:49:08,700
no longer count on the United States to

4778
02:49:08,700 --> 02:49:09,760
provide its security.

4779
02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:13,040
Defense spending in European countries has surged since

4780
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:14,860
Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

4781
02:49:15,300 --> 02:49:18,140
And just seven European NATO members, including Italy,

4782
02:49:18,360 --> 02:49:20,200
have still not met the 2% minimum

4783
02:49:20,200 --> 02:49:21,840
target relative to GDP.

4784
02:49:22,880 --> 02:49:25,860
The UK currently comes ninth among NATO countries,

4785
02:49:26,220 --> 02:49:29,120
while Poland is now the top spender, allocating

4786
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:32,220
4.7% of GDP to defense expenditure

4787
02:49:32,220 --> 02:49:33,080
this year.

4788
02:49:33,200 --> 02:49:34,260
No, go Poland.

4789
02:49:34,740 --> 02:49:35,640
Poland's all in.

4790
02:49:36,100 --> 02:49:37,680
So no one is even close, and they're

4791
02:49:37,680 --> 02:49:40,280
not even gonna pony up until 2027, and

4792
02:49:40,280 --> 02:49:41,800
yet they think that they can also build

4793
02:49:41,800 --> 02:49:44,240
their own European army, or I guess not

4794
02:49:44,240 --> 02:49:46,340
the UK, but no one seems to be

4795
02:49:46,340 --> 02:49:47,680
paying up the money.

4796
02:49:48,380 --> 02:49:50,880
And I think what we're seeing here is

4797
02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:53,020
a three-way deal being made.

4798
02:49:53,120 --> 02:49:55,280
There's rumblings of President Trump making some kind

4799
02:49:55,280 --> 02:49:58,600
of deal with President Putin, possibly for aluminum

4800
02:49:58,600 --> 02:49:59,440
imports.

4801
02:50:00,320 --> 02:50:02,720
It appears that we will have a rare

4802
02:50:02,720 --> 02:50:06,420
-earth deal in exchange for security guarantees.

4803
02:50:06,580 --> 02:50:08,580
Before I get to the fun Zelensky news,

4804
02:50:08,760 --> 02:50:11,040
here's the BBC with an overview as they

4805
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:11,480
see it.

4806
02:50:11,540 --> 02:50:14,040
Ukrainian officials say a deal's been reached between

4807
02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:16,900
Kiev and Washington on the joint exploitation of

4808
02:50:16,900 --> 02:50:18,240
Ukraine's mineral resources.

4809
02:50:18,880 --> 02:50:20,720
At the time of recording this podcast, the

4810
02:50:20,720 --> 02:50:23,700
details haven't been made public, but reports suggest

4811
02:50:23,700 --> 02:50:25,680
the US has dropped some of its more

4812
02:50:25,680 --> 02:50:26,680
drastic demands.

4813
02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:30,000
Rare-earth, titanium, graphite, and lithium would be

4814
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:32,920
hugely lucrative for investors and for Mr. Trump.

4815
02:50:33,380 --> 02:50:35,180
Speaking from the Oval Office, he said they

4816
02:50:35,180 --> 02:50:37,060
could be a way of recouping hundreds of

4817
02:50:37,060 --> 02:50:39,260
billions of dollars of US military aid to

4818
02:50:39,260 --> 02:50:42,660
Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion three years

4819
02:50:42,660 --> 02:50:42,940
ago.

4820
02:50:43,300 --> 02:50:46,400
Lots of equipment, military equipment, and the right

4821
02:50:46,400 --> 02:50:50,220
to fight on, and originally the right to

4822
02:50:50,220 --> 02:50:50,460
fight.

4823
02:50:50,600 --> 02:50:53,520
Look, Ukraine, I will say they're very brave

4824
02:50:53,520 --> 02:50:56,220
and they're good soldiers, but without the United

4825
02:50:56,220 --> 02:50:59,140
States and its money and its military equipment,

4826
02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:01,000
this war would have been over in a

4827
02:51:01,000 --> 02:51:02,160
very short period of time.

4828
02:51:02,420 --> 02:51:04,180
Officials in Kiev say the terms of a

4829
02:51:04,180 --> 02:51:06,500
deal have been reached and President Zelensky will

4830
02:51:06,500 --> 02:51:09,080
fly to Washington on Friday, just a week

4831
02:51:09,080 --> 02:51:11,100
after Mr. Trump called him a dictator.

4832
02:51:11,340 --> 02:51:11,880
A dictator.

4833
02:51:12,280 --> 02:51:14,560
So that blurt you heard there has caused

4834
02:51:14,560 --> 02:51:15,520
a lot of confusion.

4835
02:51:15,720 --> 02:51:17,260
President Trump said, they'll give him the right

4836
02:51:17,260 --> 02:51:18,420
to fight on, what?

4837
02:51:19,320 --> 02:51:20,960
So people are confused about that.

4838
02:51:21,040 --> 02:51:23,340
Here's part two of the BBC podcast report.

4839
02:51:23,340 --> 02:51:26,480
We have spoken to Ukrainian officials in the

4840
02:51:26,480 --> 02:51:29,000
presidential office here and on the condition of

4841
02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:31,840
anonymity that they did confirm that terms have

4842
02:51:31,840 --> 02:51:34,560
been agreed and judging from the media reports,

4843
02:51:34,620 --> 02:51:37,340
we can say that the deal includes not

4844
02:51:37,340 --> 02:51:41,660
just critical minerals and rare earth metals, but

4845
02:51:41,660 --> 02:51:43,240
also it covers oil and gas.

4846
02:51:43,260 --> 02:51:43,960
Yeah, baby.

4847
02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:46,500
And Ukrainian media also is talking about ports

4848
02:51:46,500 --> 02:51:48,220
and other related infrastructure.

4849
02:51:48,760 --> 02:51:52,360
The agreement would establish a fund into which

4850
02:51:52,360 --> 02:51:55,700
Ukraine would contribute 50% of revenues that

4851
02:51:55,700 --> 02:52:00,760
will come from developing mineral resources and infrastructure.

4852
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:05,360
And importantly, there's this reference that this fund

4853
02:52:05,360 --> 02:52:08,680
would reinvest the capital in projects in Ukraine.

4854
02:52:09,240 --> 02:52:12,420
And this certainly a positive signal for Ukrainian

4855
02:52:12,420 --> 02:52:12,880
officials.

4856
02:52:13,560 --> 02:52:16,520
And they're saying that overall, the conditions that

4857
02:52:16,520 --> 02:52:18,920
this deal is offering is much better than

4858
02:52:18,920 --> 02:52:20,440
what they had previously.

4859
02:52:21,000 --> 02:52:23,620
And the fund that will be established as

4860
02:52:23,620 --> 02:52:25,560
part of this deal will not be completely

4861
02:52:25,560 --> 02:52:28,180
controlled by the U.S. as it was

4862
02:52:28,180 --> 02:52:28,720
before.

4863
02:52:29,160 --> 02:52:31,500
And now it's not clear the size of

4864
02:52:31,500 --> 02:52:33,320
the U.S. stake in this fund, but

4865
02:52:33,320 --> 02:52:35,920
I think this will be established later during

4866
02:52:35,920 --> 02:52:36,400
the talks.

4867
02:52:36,960 --> 02:52:38,760
The most important thing is that the figure

4868
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:41,420
of $500 billion is dropped.

4869
02:52:41,580 --> 02:52:44,340
And previously, the U.S. wanted Ukraine to

4870
02:52:44,340 --> 02:52:46,680
contribute this amount of money because they saw

4871
02:52:46,680 --> 02:52:49,100
that this is how much the United States

4872
02:52:49,100 --> 02:52:52,460
provided Ukraine in terms of military and economic

4873
02:52:52,460 --> 02:52:52,940
aid.

4874
02:52:53,220 --> 02:52:55,300
And Donald Trump kept saying that he wants

4875
02:52:55,300 --> 02:52:56,540
this money back.

4876
02:52:56,980 --> 02:52:59,520
And Ukraine resists saying that they received all

4877
02:52:59,520 --> 02:53:02,260
aid in the form of grant, and therefore

4878
02:53:02,260 --> 02:53:05,080
they have no financial obligations to return anything.

4879
02:53:05,540 --> 02:53:08,140
So this 500 billion is an interesting number

4880
02:53:08,140 --> 02:53:11,780
because it keeps popping up everywhere, including in

4881
02:53:11,780 --> 02:53:15,400
this report from France 24.

4882
02:53:15,400 --> 02:53:19,700
Kemi, we've been highlighting the jousting between the

4883
02:53:19,700 --> 02:53:21,840
U.S. and its allies over Ukraine.

4884
02:53:22,960 --> 02:53:25,420
Ukraine, where the World Bank's been putting a

4885
02:53:25,420 --> 02:53:28,260
number on how much reconstruction will cost.

4886
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:31,780
That's right, and it's over $500 billion to

4887
02:53:31,780 --> 02:53:34,660
rebuild Ukraine after three years of war.

4888
02:53:34,740 --> 02:53:37,160
The World Bank conducted the assessment together with

4889
02:53:37,160 --> 02:53:39,400
the European Commission and the United Nations, saying

4890
02:53:39,400 --> 02:53:42,340
the total is nearly three times Ukraine's expected

4891
02:53:42,340 --> 02:53:44,220
2024 economic output.

4892
02:53:44,220 --> 02:53:46,920
The survey covered destruction that occurred since the

4893
02:53:46,920 --> 02:53:49,920
February 2022 invasion and the end of last

4894
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:51,980
year, and found that 13% of the

4895
02:53:51,980 --> 02:53:54,680
country's housing stock had been either damaged or

4896
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:58,760
destroyed, affecting over 2.5 million households.

4897
02:53:59,120 --> 02:54:01,100
That damage is mostly found in frontline areas

4898
02:54:01,100 --> 02:54:03,760
in the East, North, and South, where three

4899
02:54:03,760 --> 02:54:06,260
quarters of the destruction is concentrated.

4900
02:54:06,500 --> 02:54:08,200
It comes as U.S. President Donald Trump

4901
02:54:08,200 --> 02:54:10,940
says he's prepared to host his Ukrainian counterpart

4902
02:54:10,940 --> 02:54:12,960
to sign a peace deal with Russia.

4903
02:54:12,960 --> 02:54:15,760
Reuters reporting that amid U.S. negotiations with

4904
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:18,160
Moscow, Russia may be willing to use a

4905
02:54:18,160 --> 02:54:21,720
portion of its $300 billion in frozen assets

4906
02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:23,520
to help rebuild Ukraine.

4907
02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:25,600
Well, that's interesting.

4908
02:54:26,760 --> 02:54:29,000
Trump is doing some interesting things.

4909
02:54:29,540 --> 02:54:31,280
You know, they got their money anyway, Vladimir,

4910
02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:33,220
so just let them have some of that.

4911
02:54:33,340 --> 02:54:34,000
They'll rebuild.

4912
02:54:34,200 --> 02:54:35,680
We'll take some of it back, I'm sure.

4913
02:54:36,080 --> 02:54:37,280
Maybe we'll take all of it back.

4914
02:54:37,400 --> 02:54:40,880
We'll recoup 350, which is, interestingly, the number

4915
02:54:40,880 --> 02:54:43,500
that everyone claims is actually correct, the amount

4916
02:54:43,500 --> 02:54:44,980
of money that the U.S. put in.

4917
02:54:45,880 --> 02:54:47,500
There's some massive dealing.

4918
02:54:48,260 --> 02:54:49,860
From, I listen to all this stuff, and

4919
02:54:49,860 --> 02:54:51,840
it's like 200 billion is one of the

4920
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:52,220
numbers.

4921
02:54:53,500 --> 02:54:54,320
350's a number.

4922
02:54:54,460 --> 02:54:56,520
500 is a number I never heard until

4923
02:54:56,520 --> 02:54:56,960
recently.

4924
02:54:57,100 --> 02:54:57,860
Now that's a number.

4925
02:54:58,800 --> 02:55:00,640
It's like, wait a minute.

4926
02:55:01,240 --> 02:55:05,300
And meanwhile, Bloomberg reports this about Zelensky.

4927
02:55:05,400 --> 02:55:07,480
Ten dozen leaders from Europe and Canada are

4928
02:55:07,480 --> 02:55:10,300
visiting Ukraine's capital to mark the third anniversary

4929
02:55:10,300 --> 02:55:11,520
of Russia's invasion.

4930
02:55:11,720 --> 02:55:14,820
The meeting to discuss security guarantees comes after

4931
02:55:14,820 --> 02:55:17,580
President Vladimir Zelensky said he would be ready

4932
02:55:17,580 --> 02:55:19,760
to step down if it secured peace for

4933
02:55:19,760 --> 02:55:20,420
his country.

4934
02:55:22,100 --> 02:55:24,360
If to achieve peace, you really need me

4935
02:55:24,360 --> 02:55:26,240
to give up my post, I'm ready.

4936
02:55:26,460 --> 02:55:28,540
I can trade it for NATO if there

4937
02:55:28,540 --> 02:55:29,560
are such conditions.

4938
02:55:30,060 --> 02:55:32,400
This is a guy who wants to get

4939
02:55:32,400 --> 02:55:33,520
out real quick.

4940
02:55:34,360 --> 02:55:35,200
Yeah, you know.

4941
02:55:35,340 --> 02:55:37,320
He's gonna get killed, and he's got houses

4942
02:55:37,320 --> 02:55:38,200
all over the world.

4943
02:55:38,200 --> 02:55:39,640
The guy's done a very good job of

4944
02:55:39,640 --> 02:55:40,180
investing.

4945
02:55:40,520 --> 02:55:40,840
You know what?

4946
02:55:41,020 --> 02:55:42,700
If you look at the list of people,

4947
02:55:42,820 --> 02:55:47,440
whenever we give someone ammunition and arms, they

4948
02:55:47,440 --> 02:55:48,520
kind of wind up dead.

4949
02:55:50,990 --> 02:55:52,110
Have you noticed this?

4950
02:55:52,870 --> 02:55:53,970
Yeah, a lot of them do.

4951
02:55:54,890 --> 02:55:56,910
The list is, who do we have on

4952
02:55:56,910 --> 02:55:57,010
the list?

4953
02:55:57,010 --> 02:55:57,770
This guy must know that.

4954
02:55:58,210 --> 02:55:59,630
Well, yes, he knows it.

4955
02:56:00,410 --> 02:56:01,450
Let's see, who do we have on the

4956
02:56:01,450 --> 02:56:01,710
list?

4957
02:56:01,790 --> 02:56:03,330
Who are some of the people who we've

4958
02:56:03,330 --> 02:56:03,550
given?

4959
02:56:03,790 --> 02:56:05,410
Well, Gaddafi was a good example.

4960
02:56:05,810 --> 02:56:08,450
Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein.

4961
02:56:08,450 --> 02:56:11,090
Saddam Hussein is a classic example, but there's

4962
02:56:11,090 --> 02:56:12,170
all kinds of examples.

4963
02:56:12,370 --> 02:56:13,270
Bin Laden.

4964
02:56:14,410 --> 02:56:15,450
Yeah, yeah.

4965
02:56:15,810 --> 02:56:19,930
This is- How about this?

4966
02:56:20,510 --> 02:56:22,570
Zelensky will never go back to Ukraine.

4967
02:56:22,850 --> 02:56:24,670
Once he's here, he's gonna stay here.

4968
02:56:26,890 --> 02:56:29,250
I'm not gonna say that term, but I'm

4969
02:56:29,250 --> 02:56:29,790
not, no.

4970
02:56:29,950 --> 02:56:30,830
He's gonna go back.

4971
02:56:30,970 --> 02:56:31,910
Okay, all right.

4972
02:56:32,050 --> 02:56:33,630
Too premature for that.

4973
02:56:33,790 --> 02:56:36,830
He may be over here planning his eventual

4974
02:56:36,830 --> 02:56:39,110
escape, and maybe he gets his better travel

4975
02:56:39,110 --> 02:56:40,870
agents over here that he can work with

4976
02:56:40,870 --> 02:56:42,330
and not get caught.

4977
02:56:42,830 --> 02:56:43,510
That could be.

4978
02:56:44,530 --> 02:56:46,370
Poor guy, yeah.

4979
02:56:46,870 --> 02:56:47,950
Poor guy.

4980
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:50,030
Poor guy, poor guy.

4981
02:56:50,370 --> 02:56:52,290
He got wrapped up in all this stuff.

4982
02:56:52,830 --> 02:56:53,650
Poor guy.

4983
02:56:54,570 --> 02:56:55,810
He's kind of a dick.

4984
02:56:56,710 --> 02:56:59,350
But he plays the piano with it.

4985
02:56:59,590 --> 02:57:02,850
Meanwhile, there's worse things going on amongst the

4986
02:57:02,850 --> 02:57:03,750
trans community.

4987
02:57:04,370 --> 02:57:05,690
Say it isn't so.

4988
02:57:05,690 --> 02:57:08,810
Yeah, they can't get a passport.

4989
02:57:09,150 --> 02:57:10,030
I got a couple of clips.

4990
02:57:10,450 --> 02:57:13,530
The president's executive order on gender identity is

4991
02:57:13,530 --> 02:57:15,790
affecting some Americans' travel plans.

4992
02:57:16,170 --> 02:57:18,690
People who are trans or intersex or non

4993
02:57:18,690 --> 02:57:21,870
-binary say they're being issued passports that do

4994
02:57:21,870 --> 02:57:24,310
not align with their gender identity or other

4995
02:57:24,310 --> 02:57:26,110
legal documents.

4996
02:57:26,670 --> 02:57:28,690
Others say their applications are just on hold.

4997
02:57:29,190 --> 02:57:31,730
NPR's Jacqueline Diaz asked about their experiences.

4998
02:57:32,670 --> 02:57:35,630
24-year-old Louis submitted his passport application

4999
02:57:35,630 --> 02:57:38,730
a day after President Donald Trump was inaugurated.

5000
02:57:39,230 --> 02:57:42,010
That same day, Trump signed an executive order

5001
02:57:42,010 --> 02:57:45,030
mandating that the federal government recognize only two

5002
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:46,550
sexes, male and female.

5003
02:57:47,090 --> 02:57:48,890
So I was a little bit nervous about

5004
02:57:48,890 --> 02:57:49,510
things.

5005
02:57:49,750 --> 02:57:52,110
You see, Louis is transmasculine.

5006
02:57:52,710 --> 02:57:54,450
He asked us to use only his first

5007
02:57:54,450 --> 02:57:57,150
name because he fears harassment and retaliation at

5008
02:57:57,150 --> 02:57:57,430
work.

5009
02:57:58,050 --> 02:58:00,250
A New York court had recently recognized his

5010
02:58:00,250 --> 02:58:02,950
name and gender identity change, and he needed

5011
02:58:02,950 --> 02:58:04,670
a new passport to reflect that.

5012
02:58:05,290 --> 02:58:07,490
But when he got his new passport...

5013
02:58:07,490 --> 02:58:09,130
The name was changed according to the court

5014
02:58:09,130 --> 02:58:11,950
order, but the gender marker just matched my

5015
02:58:11,950 --> 02:58:15,350
previous passport and was not changed, even though

5016
02:58:15,350 --> 02:58:16,810
the court order said to change it.

5017
02:58:17,250 --> 02:58:20,330
I wasn't surprised, but it's a little disappointing.

5018
02:58:20,850 --> 02:58:22,910
Now he's worried about what this means.

5019
02:58:23,370 --> 02:58:25,910
He's male-presenting, and his other documents say

5020
02:58:25,910 --> 02:58:28,370
male, but his passport says something else.

5021
02:58:28,770 --> 02:58:31,250
Like, if I travel somewhere else, is it

5022
02:58:31,250 --> 02:58:33,390
something that will be flagged or not?

5023
02:58:33,390 --> 02:58:35,930
Trans people like Louis aren't the only ones

5024
02:58:35,930 --> 02:58:37,790
facing issues getting new passports.

5025
02:58:38,050 --> 02:58:40,170
Please don't tell me you're gonna say that

5026
02:58:40,170 --> 02:58:42,210
NPR isn't giving you all the facts and

5027
02:58:42,210 --> 02:58:44,190
telling you what the passport says.

5028
02:58:45,710 --> 02:58:46,270
Because...

5029
02:58:46,270 --> 02:58:49,790
That wasn't my intention, but again, they could

5030
02:58:49,790 --> 02:58:51,710
have actually given us some details, but no,

5031
02:58:51,710 --> 02:58:51,810
no.

5032
02:58:51,810 --> 02:58:53,150
He's male-presenting.

5033
02:58:53,310 --> 02:58:54,310
Male-presenting.

5034
02:58:55,610 --> 02:58:56,830
Transmasculine, non-binary.

5035
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:58,330
Come on, let's get this straight.

5036
02:58:58,410 --> 02:58:59,610
Male-presenting.

5037
02:59:00,690 --> 02:59:05,610
Male-presenting, and the passport says male, but

5038
02:59:05,610 --> 02:59:06,650
it should say something else.

5039
02:59:06,710 --> 02:59:07,850
But what is that something else?

5040
02:59:07,950 --> 02:59:08,930
Now that you brought it up, you're the

5041
02:59:08,930 --> 02:59:09,590
one that brought it up.

5042
02:59:09,690 --> 02:59:11,150
I'm just saying they left it out.

5043
02:59:11,230 --> 02:59:12,190
Okay, let's go to part two.

5044
02:59:12,450 --> 02:59:15,230
The changes are having a profound impact on

5045
02:59:15,230 --> 02:59:16,090
intersex people.

5046
02:59:16,730 --> 02:59:20,050
Those born with genitalia, chromosomes, or reproductive organs

5047
02:59:20,050 --> 02:59:22,810
that don't fit typical definitions for males or

5048
02:59:22,810 --> 02:59:23,210
females.

5049
02:59:23,770 --> 02:59:26,150
Every time you're trying to define sex in

5050
02:59:26,150 --> 02:59:29,370
these perfectly binary terms, you're gonna impact intersex

5051
02:59:29,370 --> 02:59:33,890
people who, by definition, don't present with perfectly

5052
02:59:33,890 --> 02:59:34,810
binary sex.

5053
02:59:35,190 --> 02:59:38,350
That's Erika Lorschbaugh, the executive director of InterACT,

5054
02:59:38,750 --> 02:59:40,810
a civil rights group for people with intersex

5055
02:59:40,810 --> 02:59:41,250
traits.

5056
02:59:41,810 --> 02:59:44,390
She's hearing from intersex people who feel at

5057
02:59:44,390 --> 02:59:45,070
a loss.

5058
02:59:45,450 --> 02:59:47,270
Now folks are feeling, I think, a little

5059
02:59:47,270 --> 02:59:48,290
more like erased.

5060
02:59:48,670 --> 02:59:50,990
Others are left in complete limbo.

5061
02:59:51,970 --> 02:59:54,910
Wesley Ebeling is transmasculine, non-binary.

5062
02:59:55,530 --> 02:59:57,670
Like Louie, he wanted to change the gender

5063
02:59:57,670 --> 02:59:59,270
marker on his passport to male.

5064
02:59:59,750 --> 03:00:02,210
He submitted it just before the inauguration.

5065
03:00:02,550 --> 03:00:06,830
It's currently suspended indefinitely by the State Department

5066
03:00:06,830 --> 03:00:09,290
with the current executive order.

5067
03:00:09,530 --> 03:00:11,410
And he has no idea when he will

5068
03:00:11,410 --> 03:00:13,850
get a new passport or his old documents

5069
03:00:13,850 --> 03:00:14,170
back.

5070
03:00:14,470 --> 03:00:16,130
I had dreams of travel.

5071
03:00:16,510 --> 03:00:18,550
My partner and I were planning trips later

5072
03:00:18,550 --> 03:00:21,490
this year, which have all obviously been put

5073
03:00:21,490 --> 03:00:24,470
on hold as they've sort of put us

5074
03:00:24,470 --> 03:00:28,170
transgender folks on almost an informal travel ban

5075
03:00:28,170 --> 03:00:28,910
of sorts.

5076
03:00:29,130 --> 03:00:32,090
A lawsuit filed by the ACLU is challenging

5077
03:00:32,090 --> 03:00:34,050
the State Department's passport policy.

5078
03:00:34,730 --> 03:00:36,510
It's still working its way through the courts.

5079
03:00:37,030 --> 03:00:39,530
But for now, Louie, Wesley and others say

5080
03:00:39,530 --> 03:00:41,830
they will not be pushed aside and will

5081
03:00:41,830 --> 03:00:43,650
continue to live their lives.

5082
03:00:44,110 --> 03:00:45,010
Their lives.

5083
03:00:45,150 --> 03:00:47,110
You know, this is this is they always

5084
03:00:47,110 --> 03:00:49,330
do this when it comes to trans.

5085
03:00:49,690 --> 03:00:51,390
They always bring in the intersex.

5086
03:00:51,510 --> 03:00:53,870
Intersex is a real thing where you have

5087
03:00:53,870 --> 03:00:55,290
abnormal chromosomes.

5088
03:00:56,130 --> 03:00:56,250
Yeah.

5089
03:00:56,670 --> 03:00:59,150
You know, nobody's denying that.

5090
03:00:59,330 --> 03:00:59,650
I know.

5091
03:00:59,770 --> 03:01:01,830
But that's what they're they're go to.

5092
03:01:02,030 --> 03:01:03,950
Oh, well, you're erasing these people.

5093
03:01:05,230 --> 03:01:07,950
But I think the percentage of intersex is

5094
03:01:07,950 --> 03:01:09,110
very, very low.

5095
03:01:09,630 --> 03:01:12,510
Probably ask any AI system has done less

5096
03:01:12,510 --> 03:01:14,730
than one percent or one percent around one

5097
03:01:14,730 --> 03:01:14,990
percent.

5098
03:01:15,110 --> 03:01:17,390
And that percent is basically Jamie Lee Curtis.

5099
03:01:18,530 --> 03:01:19,950
Yeah, it doesn't take much.

5100
03:01:20,030 --> 03:01:20,850
Did I ever tell you that?

5101
03:01:21,050 --> 03:01:23,070
That I that I interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis?

5102
03:01:23,670 --> 03:01:25,790
No, this is a story for the show.

5103
03:01:26,190 --> 03:01:26,290
Yes.

5104
03:01:28,370 --> 03:01:30,290
I was hit on you because you're a

5105
03:01:30,290 --> 03:01:31,670
good looking guy back in the day.

5106
03:01:31,910 --> 03:01:34,510
I was in back in the day.

5107
03:01:34,670 --> 03:01:35,830
What is this, Dvorak?

5108
03:01:35,910 --> 03:01:37,030
I'm still a stud.

5109
03:01:38,940 --> 03:01:40,140
We back in the day.

5110
03:01:40,440 --> 03:01:41,360
I digress.

5111
03:01:42,020 --> 03:01:45,380
It was probably 19.

5112
03:01:46,220 --> 03:01:47,860
When did Footloose come out?

5113
03:01:49,040 --> 03:01:51,020
So Footloose came out.

5114
03:01:51,780 --> 03:01:52,800
I think it was either foot.

5115
03:01:52,800 --> 03:01:55,120
I interviewed Kenny Loggins.

5116
03:01:56,540 --> 03:02:00,340
And maybe it was Top Gear.

5117
03:02:00,460 --> 03:02:01,040
I can't remember.

5118
03:02:01,240 --> 03:02:04,180
But but then, oh, yes, because we're doing

5119
03:02:04,180 --> 03:02:05,600
something for the MTV Awards.

5120
03:02:05,720 --> 03:02:06,860
I was in Los Angeles and then I

5121
03:02:06,860 --> 03:02:09,120
interviewed Jamie Lee Curtis and it was right

5122
03:02:09,120 --> 03:02:11,600
around when Fish Called Wanda was coming out

5123
03:02:11,600 --> 03:02:13,060
and it was at her house.

5124
03:02:13,520 --> 03:02:16,100
And and I remember it was that she

5125
03:02:16,100 --> 03:02:17,880
said so it was after we were done

5126
03:02:17,880 --> 03:02:21,040
recording and we're just chatting and she says

5127
03:02:21,040 --> 03:02:22,520
something to me and I don't get the

5128
03:02:22,520 --> 03:02:22,800
joke.

5129
03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:25,440
And she says, Adam, don't you know I

5130
03:02:25,440 --> 03:02:26,860
was born a hermaphrodite?

5131
03:02:27,660 --> 03:02:29,560
And I'm like, what?

5132
03:02:30,780 --> 03:02:33,340
She says, yes, my parents chose female for

5133
03:02:33,340 --> 03:02:35,500
me, but probably was the wrong choice.

5134
03:02:37,140 --> 03:02:38,760
Well, she said it was probably the wrong

5135
03:02:38,760 --> 03:02:39,160
choice.

5136
03:02:39,280 --> 03:02:41,320
Yes, that that was probably the wrong choice

5137
03:02:41,320 --> 03:02:41,780
for her.

5138
03:02:42,900 --> 03:02:43,500
Isn't that interesting?

5139
03:02:45,260 --> 03:02:46,820
That's that's breaking.

5140
03:02:48,820 --> 03:02:49,700
Breaking news.

5141
03:02:49,820 --> 03:02:51,320
Because she looks like a dude.

5142
03:02:51,320 --> 03:02:53,140
She looks like a dude now.

5143
03:02:53,280 --> 03:02:55,240
She was really attractive back in the day

5144
03:02:55,240 --> 03:02:56,200
as a girl.

5145
03:02:56,460 --> 03:02:58,260
Oh yeah, yeah.

5146
03:02:58,820 --> 03:03:00,520
I just remembered that story.

5147
03:03:00,860 --> 03:03:02,120
That was a long time ago.

5148
03:03:02,300 --> 03:03:02,780
That was a long.

5149
03:03:02,860 --> 03:03:03,900
It's like 40 years ago.

5150
03:03:04,020 --> 03:03:07,300
Twenty two thousand to twenty thirty five years

5151
03:03:07,300 --> 03:03:07,500
ago.

5152
03:03:07,560 --> 03:03:08,320
It was a long time ago.

5153
03:03:09,200 --> 03:03:09,720
It's amazing.

5154
03:03:10,180 --> 03:03:12,800
So she had both for for trolls who

5155
03:03:12,800 --> 03:03:13,360
are confused.

5156
03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:15,340
I think it's pretty well known.

5157
03:03:16,760 --> 03:03:18,540
Now you'd be surprised how many people don't

5158
03:03:18,540 --> 03:03:19,040
know that.

5159
03:03:19,560 --> 03:03:22,940
So I'm talking about it in public a

5160
03:03:22,940 --> 03:03:23,280
lot.

5161
03:03:23,620 --> 03:03:25,640
Yeah, well, back then, 1990, I didn't know

5162
03:03:25,640 --> 03:03:26,480
anything about it.

5163
03:03:28,640 --> 03:03:29,900
I'm a little upset.

5164
03:03:30,160 --> 03:03:33,600
My sports ball game is is under attack.

5165
03:03:34,380 --> 03:03:36,020
As you know, I follow her.

5166
03:03:36,340 --> 03:03:38,380
No, as you know, I follow football very

5167
03:03:38,380 --> 03:03:38,800
closely.

5168
03:03:39,480 --> 03:03:40,140
I'm not.

5169
03:03:40,260 --> 03:03:41,320
No, no football.

5170
03:03:41,400 --> 03:03:42,280
It's called football.

5171
03:03:42,300 --> 03:03:44,800
No, here in America, I follow football very

5172
03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:45,200
closely.

5173
03:03:45,840 --> 03:03:46,500
And I'm sure you do.

5174
03:03:46,580 --> 03:03:47,000
I do.

5175
03:03:47,300 --> 03:03:47,660
I do.

5176
03:03:47,660 --> 03:03:49,060
I know all of the teams.

5177
03:03:49,240 --> 03:03:50,160
I know all the stats.

5178
03:03:50,300 --> 03:03:51,780
And I'm really you do know, you know,

5179
03:03:51,840 --> 03:03:52,380
the teams.

5180
03:03:52,520 --> 03:03:52,660
Yes.

5181
03:03:52,740 --> 03:03:53,220
And I'm very.

5182
03:03:53,360 --> 03:03:53,600
Yes.

5183
03:03:54,140 --> 03:03:56,380
The Baltimore Orioles are my favorite football team.

5184
03:03:58,080 --> 03:04:00,560
I'm very upset about the push.

5185
03:04:00,600 --> 03:04:00,940
Push.

5186
03:04:01,160 --> 03:04:02,740
You've likely seen it before.

5187
03:04:02,940 --> 03:04:03,860
Got to go for it.

5188
03:04:03,900 --> 03:04:05,160
Searching for his house.

5189
03:04:05,340 --> 03:04:07,920
The brotherly shove or so-called push push

5190
03:04:07,920 --> 03:04:09,980
when an NFL team has about one yard

5191
03:04:09,980 --> 03:04:11,500
or less to go to get a first

5192
03:04:11,500 --> 03:04:12,620
down or a touchdown.

5193
03:04:13,400 --> 03:04:17,160
Hurts the offensive line and quarterback dive forward

5194
03:04:17,160 --> 03:04:19,000
while players behind help out.

5195
03:04:19,060 --> 03:04:19,420
Pushing.

5196
03:04:19,840 --> 03:04:21,680
But now the play could be banned at

5197
03:04:21,680 --> 03:04:24,320
the NFL Combine in Indianapolis this morning.

5198
03:04:24,420 --> 03:04:26,600
The general manager of the Green Bay Packers

5199
03:04:26,600 --> 03:04:28,900
confirming his team filed a motion to get

5200
03:04:28,900 --> 03:04:29,360
rid of it.

5201
03:04:29,500 --> 03:04:31,180
The play has been examined by the NFL

5202
03:04:31,180 --> 03:04:34,440
and the competition committee in previous offseasons, but

5203
03:04:34,440 --> 03:04:35,840
no action has been taken.

5204
03:04:35,980 --> 03:04:37,780
Some consider the play unfair.

5205
03:04:37,960 --> 03:04:39,660
There are also safety concerns.

5206
03:04:39,840 --> 03:04:42,460
You already have to block 350 pound monsters.

5207
03:04:42,620 --> 03:04:43,980
It can't be good for your spine in

5208
03:04:43,980 --> 03:04:44,500
the long run.

5209
03:04:44,600 --> 03:04:45,700
Here comes the push.

5210
03:04:45,700 --> 03:04:49,300
According to ESPN research, the Philadelphia Eagles and

5211
03:04:49,300 --> 03:04:52,640
Buffalo Bills have combined to run 163 tush

5212
03:04:52,640 --> 03:04:55,160
pushes the past three seasons, more than the

5213
03:04:55,160 --> 03:04:57,800
rest of the NFL combined, scoring a touchdown

5214
03:04:57,800 --> 03:05:00,400
or achieving a first down 87 percent of

5215
03:05:00,400 --> 03:05:02,860
the time compared to a 71 percent conversion

5216
03:05:02,860 --> 03:05:04,240
rate for the rest of the league.

5217
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:06,160
Not in this report, but I understand the

5218
03:05:06,160 --> 03:05:08,240
Green Bay Packers still want the tush push.

5219
03:05:08,760 --> 03:05:11,460
No, no, they're the ones who filed against

5220
03:05:11,460 --> 03:05:11,740
it.

5221
03:05:11,780 --> 03:05:13,340
It said right in that report.

5222
03:05:13,580 --> 03:05:15,700
The whole point is the joke that they

5223
03:05:15,700 --> 03:05:16,880
don't like the tush push.

5224
03:05:17,580 --> 03:05:20,520
The whole thing is a joke, because it's

5225
03:05:20,520 --> 03:05:24,140
really they the rules used to be, I'd

5226
03:05:24,140 --> 03:05:26,140
say 20 years ago, you couldn't push.

5227
03:05:26,600 --> 03:05:28,320
You couldn't push a player or grab a

5228
03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:30,220
player and pull him if he had the

5229
03:05:30,220 --> 03:05:30,620
ball.

5230
03:05:30,760 --> 03:05:32,500
If you were on the offense, you couldn't

5231
03:05:32,500 --> 03:05:32,980
do that.

5232
03:05:33,020 --> 03:05:33,820
You couldn't push him.

5233
03:05:33,960 --> 03:05:34,940
You couldn't grab him.

5234
03:05:34,980 --> 03:05:35,640
You couldn't pull him.

5235
03:05:35,680 --> 03:05:36,780
You couldn't do anything like that.

5236
03:05:36,780 --> 03:05:37,560
It was just the rule.

5237
03:05:37,860 --> 03:05:39,180
And then they changed.

5238
03:05:39,280 --> 03:05:40,440
And so, well, what there is is basically

5239
03:05:40,440 --> 03:05:41,200
allowed this.

5240
03:05:41,260 --> 03:05:43,740
And then over time, what was the originally

5241
03:05:43,740 --> 03:05:46,580
the quarterback sneak, which is the same play

5242
03:05:46,580 --> 03:05:47,380
exactly.

5243
03:05:48,160 --> 03:05:50,540
And it causes the same injuries if there

5244
03:05:50,540 --> 03:05:51,100
are any.

5245
03:05:51,220 --> 03:05:54,680
The quarterback sneak was evolved into this thing

5246
03:05:54,680 --> 03:05:55,820
where somebody said, well, you know why he's

5247
03:05:55,820 --> 03:05:56,160
sneaking?

5248
03:05:56,280 --> 03:05:56,900
Let's push him.

5249
03:05:57,520 --> 03:05:58,740
And so they started doing that.

5250
03:05:58,780 --> 03:06:00,460
And only two teams can do it well.

5251
03:06:00,540 --> 03:06:01,880
And those are the two teams they mentioned

5252
03:06:01,880 --> 03:06:03,700
specifically Philadelphia.

5253
03:06:04,040 --> 03:06:06,200
But those guys you for the reason it

5254
03:06:06,200 --> 03:06:07,740
works so well with them is because you

5255
03:06:07,740 --> 03:06:09,620
have in the case of the Bills, you

5256
03:06:09,620 --> 03:06:11,940
have a huge guy who is the quarterback.

5257
03:06:12,060 --> 03:06:12,900
This guy's a monster.

5258
03:06:12,900 --> 03:06:14,900
And then you have this other guy on

5259
03:06:14,900 --> 03:06:17,300
this Philadelphia team who can bench press six

5260
03:06:17,300 --> 03:06:18,380
hundred pounds or something.

5261
03:06:18,640 --> 03:06:21,300
These are just two strong dudes who could

5262
03:06:21,300 --> 03:06:23,360
probably still make the play work without the

5263
03:06:23,360 --> 03:06:23,720
push.

5264
03:06:24,100 --> 03:06:25,240
So this is bullcrap.

5265
03:06:25,360 --> 03:06:27,880
Not that anybody that listens to this show

5266
03:06:27,880 --> 03:06:29,260
cares about these details.

5267
03:06:29,300 --> 03:06:30,920
I'm so sorry I brought it up.

5268
03:06:31,040 --> 03:06:33,280
I'm so sorry I brought it up.

5269
03:06:33,820 --> 03:06:34,540
All right.

5270
03:06:34,560 --> 03:06:38,620
Before we go to thank some more more

5271
03:06:38,620 --> 03:06:41,680
producers who supported us financially, I do have

5272
03:06:41,680 --> 03:06:42,460
good news.

5273
03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:46,220
There is a possible exit strategy for Adam

5274
03:06:46,220 --> 03:06:47,340
and John finally.

5275
03:06:48,880 --> 03:06:52,540
And the this comes from Canada and it's

5276
03:06:52,540 --> 03:06:55,820
a medical breakthrough and we can we literally

5277
03:06:55,820 --> 03:06:59,020
can make so much money if we participate

5278
03:06:59,020 --> 03:07:00,300
in this exit strategy.

5279
03:07:00,440 --> 03:07:01,820
First, I need to know if you're interested.

5280
03:07:03,160 --> 03:07:05,500
Oh, we're interested in all good ideas.

5281
03:07:05,620 --> 03:07:07,480
I got the tech grouch lined up.

5282
03:07:08,240 --> 03:07:09,280
Oh, really?

5283
03:07:10,120 --> 03:07:11,900
I'm getting closer because I had to get

5284
03:07:11,900 --> 03:07:13,320
a new tech grouch cap.

5285
03:07:13,660 --> 03:07:15,240
You're going to just order some new tech

5286
03:07:15,240 --> 03:07:16,220
grouch glasses.

5287
03:07:16,380 --> 03:07:17,840
You're going to tech grouch, but not going

5288
03:07:17,840 --> 03:07:19,860
to do the microphone company or the vinegar

5289
03:07:19,860 --> 03:07:20,300
book.

5290
03:07:20,680 --> 03:07:21,700
No, they're all coming.

5291
03:07:22,720 --> 03:07:26,020
Here is a possible Adam and John no

5292
03:07:26,020 --> 03:07:27,720
agenda exit strategy.

5293
03:07:28,280 --> 03:07:31,340
This trio of medical researchers is hyper focused

5294
03:07:31,340 --> 03:07:32,740
on an area of study.

5295
03:07:33,100 --> 03:07:35,940
Most of us would flush away poop.

5296
03:07:35,940 --> 03:07:39,120
Together, they have launched the world's first overview

5297
03:07:39,120 --> 03:07:42,100
of poop pills designed to extend the lives

5298
03:07:42,100 --> 03:07:44,600
of advanced pancreatic cancer patients.

5299
03:07:44,860 --> 03:07:47,240
The team is searching for healthy poop donors

5300
03:07:47,240 --> 03:07:50,380
who can offer hope to patients currently facing

5301
03:07:50,380 --> 03:07:53,260
a five year survival rate of less than

5302
03:07:53,260 --> 03:07:54,100
10 percent.

5303
03:07:54,360 --> 03:07:57,420
The two year phase one fecal transplant study

5304
03:07:57,420 --> 03:08:00,140
will see patients consume a large quantity of

5305
03:08:00,140 --> 03:08:02,700
tasteless and odorless pills in one sitting.

5306
03:08:03,240 --> 03:08:06,080
It's hope the microbes inside each capsule will

5307
03:08:06,080 --> 03:08:08,520
offer cancer patients a better chance to fight

5308
03:08:08,520 --> 03:08:10,380
their tumors during chemotherapy.

5309
03:08:10,760 --> 03:08:11,240
Here comes ready.

5310
03:08:11,380 --> 03:08:13,340
Poop pills have improved the lives of those

5311
03:08:13,340 --> 03:08:15,840
battling other types of diseases and cancers.

5312
03:08:15,860 --> 03:08:18,160
But you might be surprised to learn that

5313
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:20,380
the best type of human poop is in

5314
03:08:20,380 --> 03:08:21,320
short supply.

5315
03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:24,640
Only one in 43 samples passes the quality

5316
03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:25,140
test.

5317
03:08:25,600 --> 03:08:28,160
Those who do are coveted by the team.

5318
03:08:28,580 --> 03:08:31,520
When you are, you really have like golden

5319
03:08:31,520 --> 03:08:34,180
poop and you can really save lives.

5320
03:08:34,180 --> 03:08:37,400
John, we can save lives and become millionaires

5321
03:08:37,400 --> 03:08:38,800
if we have the golden poop.

5322
03:08:38,900 --> 03:08:40,140
I think we should try out.

5323
03:08:40,700 --> 03:08:41,580
Oh, God.

5324
03:08:42,940 --> 03:08:46,080
You and Greg Gutfeld with this story.

5325
03:08:47,060 --> 03:08:48,140
Did he have the story?

5326
03:08:48,220 --> 03:08:48,920
I didn't know that.

5327
03:08:49,240 --> 03:08:51,420
I know you'd before you play the thumper

5328
03:08:51,420 --> 03:08:51,740
there.

5329
03:08:52,440 --> 03:08:54,000
Let's play the Walpole news.

5330
03:08:54,120 --> 03:08:55,620
So we have this week up to date

5331
03:08:55,620 --> 03:08:57,520
because this has got all the journalists in

5332
03:08:57,520 --> 03:08:58,960
the world bent out of shape.

5333
03:08:59,200 --> 03:09:02,080
Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos announced today that

5334
03:09:02,080 --> 03:09:04,860
the paper's opinion pages will focus on defending,

5335
03:09:05,080 --> 03:09:07,220
quote, personal liberties and free markets.

5336
03:09:07,800 --> 03:09:08,880
And a social media post.

5337
03:09:08,960 --> 03:09:11,740
Bezos says he told employees that, quote, viewpoints

5338
03:09:11,740 --> 03:09:14,060
opposing those pillars will be left to be

5339
03:09:14,060 --> 03:09:15,200
published by others.

5340
03:09:15,660 --> 03:09:18,200
Critics say it's the latest rightward shift at

5341
03:09:18,200 --> 03:09:20,880
the post under Bezos aimed at pleasing President

5342
03:09:20,880 --> 03:09:21,400
Trump.

5343
03:09:21,900 --> 03:09:24,620
Bezos insists that newspapers these days should not

5344
03:09:24,620 --> 03:09:27,820
offer a broad based opinion section, saying that

5345
03:09:27,820 --> 03:09:29,700
the Internet does that job.

5346
03:09:29,820 --> 03:09:33,060
Following today's announcement, the Post's opinion editor, David

5347
03:09:33,060 --> 03:09:35,480
Shipley, announced he is stepping down.

5348
03:09:35,680 --> 03:09:36,600
They should all resign.

5349
03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:37,820
They should all resign.

5350
03:09:38,200 --> 03:09:39,180
They should all get out.

5351
03:09:39,640 --> 03:09:42,160
Show Bezos that without them, they don't have

5352
03:09:42,160 --> 03:09:42,680
a paper.

5353
03:09:43,340 --> 03:09:44,020
There you go.

5354
03:09:44,300 --> 03:09:44,780
Exactly.

5355
03:09:45,820 --> 03:09:47,700
I'm going to show my support by donating

5356
03:09:47,700 --> 03:09:48,600
to No Agenda.

5357
03:09:48,740 --> 03:09:50,660
Imagine all the people who could do that.

5358
03:09:50,880 --> 03:09:51,900
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

5359
03:09:58,420 --> 03:10:00,560
And we do have a night to bring

5360
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:02,560
up on stage today, even though I didn't

5361
03:10:02,560 --> 03:10:04,480
see a donation note.

5362
03:10:04,720 --> 03:10:06,300
I'm not sure if that was a layaway

5363
03:10:06,300 --> 03:10:07,140
note or.

5364
03:10:07,560 --> 03:10:08,780
I think it was a layaway or something.

5365
03:10:08,780 --> 03:10:11,240
I didn't see any any extra info about

5366
03:10:11,240 --> 03:10:11,440
that.

5367
03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:13,340
We, of course, have a meetup report and

5368
03:10:13,340 --> 03:10:14,420
some meetups to talk about.

5369
03:10:14,820 --> 03:10:17,100
And John's tip of the day.

5370
03:10:17,180 --> 03:10:18,720
Who would want to miss that?

5371
03:10:18,820 --> 03:10:20,140
You don't want to be that person.

5372
03:10:20,780 --> 03:10:22,120
Yeah, it's a bad idea supply.

5373
03:10:22,440 --> 03:10:24,680
So John is now going to thank the

5374
03:10:24,680 --> 03:10:27,560
remaining donors, $50 and above, who supported us

5375
03:10:27,560 --> 03:10:29,220
for Episode 1742.

5376
03:10:29,880 --> 03:10:31,180
Yeah, starting with Summer Worth.

5377
03:10:31,540 --> 03:10:34,760
Summer Worth in Standish, Maine, 150.

5378
03:10:35,280 --> 03:10:36,900
She thinks of the governor there.

5379
03:10:37,500 --> 03:10:38,380
Ash in Texas.

5380
03:10:38,680 --> 03:10:39,800
Ash in Texas.

5381
03:10:40,300 --> 03:10:41,300
One, two, three, four, five.

5382
03:10:42,140 --> 03:10:43,740
A Ben Blessing.

5383
03:10:44,520 --> 03:10:46,200
That's a really interesting name.

5384
03:10:46,460 --> 03:10:48,100
Ben, he was Ben was a blessing.

5385
03:10:48,260 --> 03:10:50,220
Ben, he's been a blessing all his life.

5386
03:10:50,480 --> 03:10:52,320
He's in Lubeck, Lubeck, Deutschland.

5387
03:10:52,580 --> 03:10:53,420
One hundred eleven dollars.

5388
03:10:53,860 --> 03:10:55,160
One hundred eleven dollars.

5389
03:10:55,240 --> 03:10:56,060
ITM, he says.

5390
03:10:56,300 --> 03:10:56,480
Nice.

5391
03:10:56,980 --> 03:10:59,240
Melissa Adams in Bon Secours.

5392
03:10:59,560 --> 03:11:00,920
Bon Secours, Alabama.

5393
03:11:00,920 --> 03:11:01,760
One oh five.

5394
03:11:01,860 --> 03:11:03,300
I'm sure it's pronounced some other way.

5395
03:11:03,780 --> 03:11:04,320
One oh five.

5396
03:11:04,400 --> 03:11:05,040
Thirty five.

5397
03:11:06,800 --> 03:11:08,320
Kevin McLaughlin, there she is.

5398
03:11:08,320 --> 03:11:08,840
There she is.

5399
03:11:08,920 --> 03:11:09,500
There he is.

5400
03:11:10,000 --> 03:11:11,640
And he's going to make him go away.

5401
03:11:12,140 --> 03:11:13,920
You're going to make him stop donating now.

5402
03:11:14,080 --> 03:11:14,580
You've done it.

5403
03:11:14,580 --> 03:11:15,140
You've done it.

5404
03:11:15,380 --> 03:11:15,940
Stop doing anything.

5405
03:11:16,020 --> 03:11:16,680
You've donated.

5406
03:11:17,060 --> 03:11:20,340
Well, I say she because he's always referring

5407
03:11:20,340 --> 03:11:20,880
to boobs.

5408
03:11:20,920 --> 03:11:23,360
And this donation is no exception with eight

5409
03:11:23,360 --> 03:11:24,060
oh oh eight.

5410
03:11:24,160 --> 03:11:25,140
He's the Archduke of Luna.

5411
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:25,860
We all know that.

5412
03:11:26,300 --> 03:11:28,420
And he's a lover of American boobs.

5413
03:11:28,960 --> 03:11:31,040
Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, Arizona.

5414
03:11:31,220 --> 03:11:31,680
Seventy five.

5415
03:11:31,760 --> 03:11:32,260
Seventy five.

5416
03:11:32,440 --> 03:11:37,340
Brian Beckham Beckham, Henry Brian.

5417
03:11:37,660 --> 03:11:41,880
Brian Kaufman is not Henry Beckham in Victoria,

5418
03:11:42,040 --> 03:11:43,300
B.C. The beautiful town.

5419
03:11:43,400 --> 03:11:44,600
Anyone who gets a chance to go visit

5420
03:11:44,600 --> 03:11:46,220
Victoria, B.C. is dynamite.

5421
03:11:46,920 --> 03:11:50,460
V.E. seven XKJ seventy threes and his

5422
03:11:50,460 --> 03:11:50,880
donation.

5423
03:11:51,040 --> 03:11:51,520
Seventy three.

5424
03:11:51,600 --> 03:11:52,760
Seventy three is a ham.

5425
03:11:52,900 --> 03:11:53,960
No, that's no, no, no.

5426
03:11:54,340 --> 03:11:57,140
Harry Beckham is donating on behalf of his

5427
03:11:57,140 --> 03:11:58,940
neighbor who got his call.

5428
03:11:59,220 --> 03:12:01,980
Victor Echo seven X ray Kiliat Kilo Juliet.

5429
03:12:03,380 --> 03:12:05,500
So I'm glad you read the note.

5430
03:12:05,620 --> 03:12:07,640
I do, which is.

5431
03:12:07,780 --> 03:12:09,160
Yes, Tim.

5432
03:12:09,600 --> 03:12:13,680
Tim Gekas in Bellevue, Nebraska, seventy three.

5433
03:12:13,780 --> 03:12:14,300
Seventy three.

5434
03:12:14,420 --> 03:12:16,760
He recently passed his technician exam and we

5435
03:12:16,760 --> 03:12:18,300
welcome him to amateur radio.

5436
03:12:18,420 --> 03:12:20,900
Kilo Fox zero.

5437
03:12:21,220 --> 03:12:22,540
Tango India Alpha.

5438
03:12:23,380 --> 03:12:23,960
Seventy three.

5439
03:12:24,080 --> 03:12:24,720
Seventy three.

5440
03:12:24,920 --> 03:12:26,860
So that's a donation people should consider.

5441
03:12:27,400 --> 03:12:29,060
Or they should become hams, by the way.

5442
03:12:29,120 --> 03:12:29,820
It's not that hard.

5443
03:12:30,880 --> 03:12:33,080
Especially if you're a techie and you can

5444
03:12:33,080 --> 03:12:36,740
talk gibberish speak with with the A.I.

5445
03:12:37,440 --> 03:12:40,660
Christy Jensen in Huntington Beach, California, sixty six

5446
03:12:40,660 --> 03:12:41,060
eleven.

5447
03:12:43,980 --> 03:12:46,780
I, I, Y, K, Y, K.

5448
03:12:47,120 --> 03:12:48,780
I spelled it out for you, John.

5449
03:12:48,860 --> 03:12:49,760
If you know, you know.

5450
03:12:49,920 --> 03:12:52,280
Oh, it's a sixty six eleven donation, isn't

5451
03:12:52,280 --> 03:12:53,420
that the dangling balls?

5452
03:12:54,580 --> 03:12:55,040
Yes.

5453
03:12:57,080 --> 03:13:00,720
Sir Don six oh oh six small boobs.

5454
03:13:00,840 --> 03:13:03,420
Dame Denise, 60.

5455
03:13:03,560 --> 03:13:06,140
She's turning 60 on February 18th.

5456
03:13:06,140 --> 03:13:08,840
Well, she's already passed that date, but we'll

5457
03:13:08,840 --> 03:13:10,580
give her a call out today.

5458
03:13:11,400 --> 03:13:14,160
She also asked for grandbaby making karma.

5459
03:13:14,300 --> 03:13:15,660
I will play that at the end for

5460
03:13:15,660 --> 03:13:15,900
her.

5461
03:13:17,740 --> 03:13:19,580
I'm sure it's not for her, she said.

5462
03:13:19,660 --> 03:13:21,360
Well, she's going to be a grandma.

5463
03:13:21,500 --> 03:13:23,120
She's a grand baby, grandbaby.

5464
03:13:23,200 --> 03:13:24,500
OK, she wants a grandkid.

5465
03:13:24,760 --> 03:13:25,900
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

5466
03:13:26,420 --> 03:13:27,320
They'll get it.

5467
03:13:27,780 --> 03:13:30,280
Sir Stone, 58 oh nine.

5468
03:13:32,280 --> 03:13:34,800
Please review and promote site if you can.

5469
03:13:35,620 --> 03:13:36,920
Bly bid dot com.

5470
03:13:37,180 --> 03:13:39,120
B.L. was a B.T.Y. B

5471
03:13:39,120 --> 03:13:40,700
.T.Y. B.D. dot com.

5472
03:13:41,180 --> 03:13:44,880
Educational site for drugs and the interactions they

5473
03:13:44,880 --> 03:13:45,900
have with our species.

5474
03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:51,620
Chris, Christine Hines.

5475
03:13:53,280 --> 03:13:55,340
Manchester, New Hampshire.

5476
03:13:56,180 --> 03:13:58,100
A fifty five, fifty five.

5477
03:13:58,180 --> 03:14:02,940
John Hulsing in Chanhassen, Minnesota.

5478
03:14:03,420 --> 03:14:04,020
Fifty five.

5479
03:14:04,160 --> 03:14:04,640
Fifty.

5480
03:14:05,700 --> 03:14:07,240
He's going to eat an apple in his

5481
03:14:07,240 --> 03:14:07,420
room.

5482
03:14:09,120 --> 03:14:12,960
Sir Lucas in Federal Way, Washington, is an

5483
03:14:12,960 --> 03:14:14,560
aunt Gigi donation, bro.

5484
03:14:14,840 --> 03:14:16,260
Aunt Gigi donation.

5485
03:14:16,400 --> 03:14:17,000
Fifty five.

5486
03:14:17,120 --> 03:14:17,540
Fifty.

5487
03:14:19,000 --> 03:14:19,680
Fifty five.

5488
03:14:19,760 --> 03:14:21,800
Ten from Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits.

5489
03:14:22,320 --> 03:14:24,560
Also fifty five ten from West Stewart in

5490
03:14:24,560 --> 03:14:25,900
Mesa, Arizona.

5491
03:14:26,660 --> 03:14:29,720
He's the basin of the sun.

5492
03:14:30,020 --> 03:14:31,940
Arizona Basin of the Sun, Arizona.

5493
03:14:32,300 --> 03:14:33,800
Sorry, my reading is off today.

5494
03:14:34,180 --> 03:14:36,760
Scotty in Madrid, Maryland, fifty five ten.

5495
03:14:39,020 --> 03:14:40,400
Madrid, Maryland.

5496
03:14:40,740 --> 03:14:42,700
No, no, he's from Madrid, Spain.

5497
03:14:43,020 --> 03:14:44,260
M.D. So it's Madrid.

5498
03:14:44,260 --> 03:14:45,700
Oh, Madrid, that's Madrid.

5499
03:14:46,060 --> 03:14:46,800
Oh, what am I thinking?

5500
03:14:47,800 --> 03:14:50,240
Yeah, I see the sorry, my mistake.

5501
03:14:50,240 --> 03:14:52,400
Another Spaniard.

5502
03:14:53,860 --> 03:14:56,340
And he says right there, not Maryland, that's

5503
03:14:56,340 --> 03:14:56,620
funny.

5504
03:14:58,600 --> 03:14:59,660
Now we have a blank.

5505
03:14:59,760 --> 03:14:59,960
I don't know.

5506
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:01,540
You got anything in this cell?

5507
03:15:02,500 --> 03:15:04,840
From Lincoln, Nebraska, anonymous fifty five.

5508
03:15:04,960 --> 03:15:05,980
I have nothing in the cell.

5509
03:15:06,100 --> 03:15:07,000
Sorry, whoever you are.

5510
03:15:07,680 --> 03:15:09,300
Surprise at UConn, Oklahoma.

5511
03:15:09,420 --> 03:15:10,460
We haven't heard from him for a while.

5512
03:15:10,560 --> 03:15:10,900
Fifty four.

5513
03:15:10,980 --> 03:15:11,420
Forty four.

5514
03:15:11,540 --> 03:15:13,540
Aaron Newberry in Littleton, Colorado.

5515
03:15:13,680 --> 03:15:14,520
Fifty three oh seven.

5516
03:15:15,720 --> 03:15:20,080
Claire Hedges in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

5517
03:15:20,080 --> 03:15:20,960
I got that one right.

5518
03:15:21,060 --> 03:15:22,220
You got a birthday call out.

5519
03:15:22,700 --> 03:15:23,160
Fifty two.

5520
03:15:23,220 --> 03:15:23,780
Seventy two.

5521
03:15:23,860 --> 03:15:25,140
These are all fifty dollar donors.

5522
03:15:25,260 --> 03:15:26,760
I'm just going to do read these as

5523
03:15:26,760 --> 03:15:27,300
fifties.

5524
03:15:27,860 --> 03:15:29,020
These are fifty two.

5525
03:15:29,080 --> 03:15:30,420
Seventy two is with the same thing.

5526
03:15:30,680 --> 03:15:33,240
It's just got the fees starting with the

5527
03:15:33,240 --> 03:15:37,200
Bruno Freitas dos Santos in San Francisco.

5528
03:15:37,940 --> 03:15:41,520
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.

5529
03:15:42,840 --> 03:15:45,100
Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi.

5530
03:15:45,700 --> 03:15:48,340
Brian Belton in Ashbury, New Jersey.

5531
03:15:48,800 --> 03:15:52,940
Catherine Deem, D.I.E.M. in Lancaster,

5532
03:15:53,120 --> 03:15:53,680
Pennsylvania.

5533
03:15:54,440 --> 03:15:57,700
Nancy Wise in Powhatan, Virginia.

5534
03:15:58,840 --> 03:16:01,260
Charles Tracy in Hickory, North Carolina.

5535
03:16:01,460 --> 03:16:03,100
Sir Bix in.

5536
03:16:04,300 --> 03:16:07,060
What is this frills frill frill sing frill

5537
03:16:07,060 --> 03:16:08,060
sing Hong Kong.

5538
03:16:08,140 --> 03:16:08,880
Is that where that is?

5539
03:16:09,220 --> 03:16:09,580
No.

5540
03:16:09,980 --> 03:16:11,000
H.R. Hungary.

5541
03:16:11,220 --> 03:16:11,580
Hungary.

5542
03:16:11,720 --> 03:16:12,000
Yes.

5543
03:16:12,080 --> 03:16:13,720
And he wants a job, Scarra, which will

5544
03:16:13,720 --> 03:16:14,120
give him.

5545
03:16:15,720 --> 03:16:20,480
Vidal de la Torre Vidal de la Torre

5546
03:16:20,480 --> 03:16:21,060
Rivas.

5547
03:16:21,960 --> 03:16:23,800
God knows where he's from, but he's not

5548
03:16:23,800 --> 03:16:24,940
from around these parts.

5549
03:16:25,360 --> 03:16:25,480
No.

5550
03:16:25,680 --> 03:16:26,740
Fifty twenty eight.

5551
03:16:28,740 --> 03:16:31,740
Alex Vidal in Pembroke Pines, Florida.

5552
03:16:31,940 --> 03:16:37,120
Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach.

5553
03:16:38,060 --> 03:16:39,900
This is Vedra, I guess is Vedra.

5554
03:16:40,600 --> 03:16:41,240
Fifty.

5555
03:16:41,560 --> 03:16:43,060
Oh, it's like that's an oddball when it's

5556
03:16:43,060 --> 03:16:43,780
fifty oh one.

5557
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:46,260
And back to the 50s.

5558
03:16:46,320 --> 03:16:47,500
These are all real 50s.

5559
03:16:47,660 --> 03:16:49,360
Brett Denton in Boise, Idaho.

5560
03:16:49,700 --> 03:16:51,940
George Woushet in Lavergne, Texas.

5561
03:16:52,800 --> 03:16:54,080
Where is that where you are?

5562
03:16:54,200 --> 03:16:54,800
I have no idea.

5563
03:16:55,000 --> 03:16:55,540
No idea.

5564
03:16:56,820 --> 03:17:03,160
Florian Enke Enke in Bruecklinghausen.

5565
03:17:03,800 --> 03:17:07,400
Denmark or Denmark, I'm sorry, Deutschland sent an

5566
03:17:07,400 --> 03:17:08,500
email to Adam.

5567
03:17:09,060 --> 03:17:10,580
I hope you responded to it.

5568
03:17:10,920 --> 03:17:12,960
Well, I haven't seen my all of my

5569
03:17:12,960 --> 03:17:13,400
emails.

5570
03:17:13,400 --> 03:17:14,780
She said, I'm seeing it here.

5571
03:17:14,860 --> 03:17:15,760
A very long one.

5572
03:17:15,980 --> 03:17:18,640
And she says a big thank you for

5573
03:17:18,640 --> 03:17:19,920
the time and effort put into the No

5574
03:17:19,920 --> 03:17:20,520
Agenda show.

5575
03:17:20,620 --> 03:17:21,980
And I will read it and I will

5576
03:17:21,980 --> 03:17:23,080
respond, I promise.

5577
03:17:25,580 --> 03:17:27,280
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.

5578
03:17:27,420 --> 03:17:29,100
John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado.

5579
03:17:29,400 --> 03:17:31,280
Richard Gardner, I think he's in New York.

5580
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:32,220
Could be wrong.

5581
03:17:32,340 --> 03:17:40,360
Joshua Baker in Wanganui, Wanganui, Wanganui.

5582
03:17:40,560 --> 03:17:42,200
He's the guy that becomes a knight today.

5583
03:17:43,400 --> 03:17:43,980
Oh, there he is.

5584
03:17:44,060 --> 03:17:44,560
No note.

5585
03:17:44,900 --> 03:17:46,000
No, I'd like to be knighted.

5586
03:17:46,080 --> 03:17:46,600
There you go.

5587
03:17:46,700 --> 03:17:47,140
No note.

5588
03:17:47,720 --> 03:17:50,480
I have no, no delusions of anything.

5589
03:17:50,560 --> 03:17:52,380
He says, I want to talk about pseudonymity.

5590
03:17:52,540 --> 03:17:54,500
He says he's just going to be Sir

5591
03:17:54,500 --> 03:17:55,300
Joshua Baker.

5592
03:17:55,400 --> 03:17:56,100
He's good with that.

5593
03:17:56,140 --> 03:17:57,020
His regular name.

5594
03:17:58,060 --> 03:18:01,000
Jules in Glendale, Arizona, 50.

5595
03:18:01,720 --> 03:18:03,240
And he's no longer a douchebag.

5596
03:18:03,280 --> 03:18:04,820
So we'll give him a de-douching.

5597
03:18:06,600 --> 03:18:08,240
You've been de-douched.

5598
03:18:08,680 --> 03:18:10,480
And we wrap it up with a.

5599
03:18:11,340 --> 03:18:14,240
I guess this Joshi, Jackie, Jackie, I don't

5600
03:18:14,240 --> 03:18:15,940
know how you pronounce this, and he's in

5601
03:18:15,940 --> 03:18:16,860
here.

5602
03:18:17,140 --> 03:18:19,060
I'd say Jackie, Jackie.

5603
03:18:21,260 --> 03:18:23,200
Whetler, Grandville, Michigan.

5604
03:18:24,720 --> 03:18:28,480
Henry Keon in Aledo, Texas, or Harry, I'm

5605
03:18:28,480 --> 03:18:28,740
sorry.

5606
03:18:29,820 --> 03:18:33,960
Michael Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana, wraps things up.

5607
03:18:34,060 --> 03:18:35,560
But there is a note from somebody here

5608
03:18:36,280 --> 03:18:37,680
that came on a sheet of paper.

5609
03:18:39,360 --> 03:18:41,320
And when the people write in and drop

5610
03:18:41,320 --> 03:18:42,420
off a check, we like to take a

5611
03:18:42,420 --> 03:18:42,840
look at it.

5612
03:18:42,900 --> 03:18:45,200
She's oh, this came from Denise Robertson, the

5613
03:18:45,200 --> 03:18:47,280
queen of Cobalt programmer.

5614
03:18:50,060 --> 03:18:52,900
She says, for your producers that work for

5615
03:18:52,900 --> 03:18:55,620
the USPS, I have a failure in John's

5616
03:18:55,620 --> 03:18:57,080
just send a check philosophy.

5617
03:18:57,460 --> 03:18:59,100
I mail the card with a check in

5618
03:18:59,100 --> 03:19:00,840
plenty of time to get my smoking hot

5619
03:19:00,840 --> 03:19:03,040
husband's birthday on the list for two, four.

5620
03:19:03,540 --> 03:19:05,500
I've been listening intently for the donations.

5621
03:19:05,900 --> 03:19:07,660
No happy birthday, Fred Robertson.

5622
03:19:07,660 --> 03:19:09,320
Hope this gets to you soon.

5623
03:19:09,520 --> 03:19:11,780
But sometimes the mail is coming from some

5624
03:19:11,780 --> 03:19:12,600
parts of the country.

5625
03:19:12,940 --> 03:19:14,880
This is a $60 donation she gave us.

5626
03:19:15,000 --> 03:19:16,640
I think she I think is on today's

5627
03:19:16,640 --> 03:19:16,920
list.

5628
03:19:18,180 --> 03:19:19,800
Yeah, sometimes it gets slowed down.

5629
03:19:19,900 --> 03:19:22,140
Sometimes it's pretty quick, but it comes.

5630
03:19:22,260 --> 03:19:23,500
You eventually get it.

5631
03:19:25,670 --> 03:19:27,630
So good for the United Postal Service.

5632
03:19:27,650 --> 03:19:29,790
I talked to my post office workers recently

5633
03:19:29,790 --> 03:19:32,910
about the about the latest, and they they're

5634
03:19:32,910 --> 03:19:33,870
not that freaked out.

5635
03:19:35,830 --> 03:19:36,270
Oh.

5636
03:19:37,470 --> 03:19:38,810
They are you done?

5637
03:19:38,950 --> 03:19:39,550
Do you have you?

5638
03:19:39,710 --> 03:19:40,590
Yeah, I'm through.

5639
03:19:40,590 --> 03:19:42,710
Oh, because I actually have a clip about

5640
03:19:42,710 --> 03:19:46,950
the United States Postal Service from our new

5641
03:19:46,950 --> 03:19:49,710
commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick.

5642
03:19:50,130 --> 03:19:52,110
He had some genius ideas.

5643
03:19:52,450 --> 03:19:54,450
So the concept was I'm sitting with the

5644
03:19:54,450 --> 03:19:57,310
president and and the costs of the post

5645
03:19:57,310 --> 03:19:59,430
office are like it loses seven billion dollars.

5646
03:19:59,670 --> 03:20:01,210
And he said, can you do something with

5647
03:20:01,210 --> 03:20:01,390
it?

5648
03:20:01,530 --> 03:20:02,390
And I said, sure.

5649
03:20:02,530 --> 03:20:04,090
So I saw him the next day goes,

5650
03:20:04,170 --> 03:20:04,950
OK, what do you got?

5651
03:20:05,270 --> 03:20:06,330
You know, he gives me a whole 24

5652
03:20:06,330 --> 03:20:07,410
hours to figure it out.

5653
03:20:07,410 --> 03:20:10,190
And I said, well, the Commerce Department does

5654
03:20:10,190 --> 03:20:13,390
the census and we spend 40 billion dollars

5655
03:20:13,390 --> 03:20:14,990
every 10 years doing the census.

5656
03:20:15,270 --> 03:20:18,330
And that means we hire 625,000 people

5657
03:20:18,330 --> 03:20:20,290
and they go and they rent cars and

5658
03:20:20,290 --> 03:20:21,390
gas and you pay them food.

5659
03:20:21,510 --> 03:20:22,070
And you know what they do?

5660
03:20:22,150 --> 03:20:24,530
They go to every household in America and

5661
03:20:24,530 --> 03:20:25,270
count the people.

5662
03:20:26,010 --> 03:20:29,070
What department do we already have that already

5663
03:20:29,070 --> 03:20:30,950
employs 625,000 people?

5664
03:20:31,170 --> 03:20:33,250
It's got cars, already has gas, goes to

5665
03:20:33,250 --> 03:20:33,950
every household.

5666
03:20:34,510 --> 03:20:36,370
Can you imagine saying to your postman, can

5667
03:20:36,370 --> 03:20:37,730
you count the people in the house?

5668
03:20:38,010 --> 03:20:39,450
What day could he do the census Monday?

5669
03:20:39,930 --> 03:20:41,150
Could he double check it on Tuesday?

5670
03:20:41,410 --> 03:20:41,910
How about Wednesday?

5671
03:20:42,030 --> 03:20:42,970
It goes every day.

5672
03:20:43,230 --> 03:20:45,670
So we can only save 40 billion dollars

5673
03:20:45,670 --> 03:20:46,730
or four billion a year.

5674
03:20:46,850 --> 03:20:48,230
And we'll do a better job.

5675
03:20:48,610 --> 03:20:49,830
And you know what else we can do

5676
03:20:49,830 --> 03:20:50,650
with the post office?

5677
03:20:50,830 --> 03:20:52,010
They can go to your house when you

5678
03:20:52,010 --> 03:20:53,530
have a baby and give you the form

5679
03:20:53,530 --> 03:20:56,050
for Social Security and the 20,000 Social

5680
03:20:56,050 --> 03:20:57,110
Security offices that we have.

5681
03:20:57,210 --> 03:20:58,030
We just don't need it.

5682
03:20:58,470 --> 03:21:00,310
We actually can do real customer service.

5683
03:21:00,390 --> 03:21:01,330
Go right to your house.

5684
03:21:01,670 --> 03:21:02,270
Someone died.

5685
03:21:02,370 --> 03:21:03,050
Here's the forms.

5686
03:21:03,130 --> 03:21:03,790
You can fill it out.

5687
03:21:03,910 --> 03:21:04,810
I'll bring them to your house.

5688
03:21:04,810 --> 03:21:06,030
Customer service.

5689
03:21:06,190 --> 03:21:06,530
Why?

5690
03:21:06,750 --> 03:21:08,230
Because we've got those people.

5691
03:21:08,570 --> 03:21:11,610
Let's use the assets of the government to

5692
03:21:11,610 --> 03:21:14,350
make us better and save us money.

5693
03:21:14,510 --> 03:21:15,330
We can be smart.

5694
03:21:15,490 --> 03:21:16,450
You know, we're allowed.

5695
03:21:17,010 --> 03:21:19,110
OK, United States Postal Service.

5696
03:21:19,650 --> 03:21:21,590
Yeah, of course, none of this will ever

5697
03:21:21,590 --> 03:21:22,910
happen in a million years.

5698
03:21:22,910 --> 03:21:24,710
But it's a it's a great idea.

5699
03:21:24,850 --> 03:21:26,670
And, you know, Lutnick is the guy that

5700
03:21:26,670 --> 03:21:32,230
that Musk pushed to become the Commerce Secretary,

5701
03:21:32,230 --> 03:21:33,210
Secretary of the Treasury.

5702
03:21:33,530 --> 03:21:35,470
No, Commerce, Commerce, Commerce.

5703
03:21:35,830 --> 03:21:37,490
Oh, I think he pushed the Secretary of

5704
03:21:37,490 --> 03:21:38,890
the Treasury and then he got bumped to

5705
03:21:38,890 --> 03:21:39,870
Commerce by Trump.

5706
03:21:40,070 --> 03:21:43,110
Oh, he didn't take Musk's advice on this

5707
03:21:43,110 --> 03:21:43,330
guy.

5708
03:21:44,210 --> 03:21:46,570
But he is a big must a big

5709
03:21:46,570 --> 03:21:47,350
fan of this guy.

5710
03:21:47,530 --> 03:21:49,010
Well, it's an innovative idea.

5711
03:21:49,170 --> 03:21:51,410
I can already see our postal workers who

5712
03:21:51,410 --> 03:21:53,810
are big podcast listeners rolling their eyes.

5713
03:21:53,870 --> 03:21:54,890
I'm sure they will email.

5714
03:21:54,890 --> 03:21:57,310
They are sure they will be dropping off

5715
03:21:57,310 --> 03:21:58,970
some forms any minute now.

5716
03:22:00,110 --> 03:22:04,010
And before we get to our birthdays, etc.

5717
03:22:05,750 --> 03:22:08,550
Pam Bondi or no, the FBI has just

5718
03:22:08,550 --> 03:22:11,910
released the first 22 Epstein documents, not to

5719
03:22:11,910 --> 03:22:14,670
the M5M, but has posted it on X

5720
03:22:15,410 --> 03:22:18,730
vault that FBI dot gov slash Jeffrey Dash

5721
03:22:18,730 --> 03:22:19,270
Epstein.

5722
03:22:19,510 --> 03:22:20,850
It's not loading for me.

5723
03:22:20,970 --> 03:22:23,730
But apparently the first documents people are opening

5724
03:22:24,150 --> 03:22:26,630
has all kinds of words like child prostitution

5725
03:22:26,630 --> 03:22:27,050
in it.

5726
03:22:27,050 --> 03:22:28,770
So we'll find out about.

5727
03:22:28,970 --> 03:22:29,550
Oh, here it is.

5728
03:22:29,590 --> 03:22:30,730
It opened for me.

5729
03:22:30,890 --> 03:22:34,170
Well, now you're your complaint about Bondi needs

5730
03:22:34,170 --> 03:22:36,910
to be pulled back.

5731
03:22:36,970 --> 03:22:37,990
You had to claw it back.

5732
03:22:38,150 --> 03:22:39,590
Claw release something.

5733
03:22:39,850 --> 03:22:40,830
Yeah, there's something here.

5734
03:22:40,970 --> 03:22:43,970
It's so yeah, it's 22 documents and it's

5735
03:22:43,970 --> 03:22:44,910
in the FBI vault.

5736
03:22:44,990 --> 03:22:47,470
So there'll be plenty of work to do

5737
03:22:47,470 --> 03:22:48,110
after the show.

5738
03:22:48,190 --> 03:22:50,170
And as promised, we will hand out that

5739
03:22:50,170 --> 03:22:52,990
grand baby making karma with little jobs added

5740
03:22:52,990 --> 03:22:55,790
to it for the other producer jobs, jobs,

5741
03:22:56,170 --> 03:22:57,610
jobs and jobs.

5742
03:22:57,690 --> 03:22:59,290
Let's vote for jobs.

5743
03:22:59,750 --> 03:23:05,500
You got karma.

5744
03:23:05,840 --> 03:23:08,000
Thank you all for supporting the No Agenda

5745
03:23:08,000 --> 03:23:08,400
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5746
03:23:08,580 --> 03:23:09,300
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5747
03:23:09,380 --> 03:23:11,100
We never mentioned anything under that for reasons

5748
03:23:11,100 --> 03:23:11,860
of anonymity.

5749
03:23:12,080 --> 03:23:14,560
And remember, you can always have those sustaining

5750
03:23:14,560 --> 03:23:15,440
donations set up.

5751
03:23:15,520 --> 03:23:17,220
Go to no agenda donations dot com.

5752
03:23:17,300 --> 03:23:19,000
Set it up any amount, any frequency.

5753
03:23:19,400 --> 03:23:21,160
And one more time, I'd like to thank

5754
03:23:21,160 --> 03:23:23,880
our executive and associate executive producers for episode

5755
03:23:23,880 --> 03:23:24,860
1742.

5756
03:23:24,860 --> 03:23:28,060
Those credits work anywhere, including IMDB and our

5757
03:23:28,060 --> 03:23:29,980
dot com and are good for life.

5758
03:23:30,020 --> 03:23:31,400
Thank you all for supporting us.

5759
03:23:31,460 --> 03:23:33,880
Once again, no agenda donations dot com.

5760
03:23:38,500 --> 03:23:41,920
Our list for today includes Dame Denise, who

5761
03:23:41,920 --> 03:23:44,540
wishes her smoking hot husband Fred Robertson a

5762
03:23:44,540 --> 03:23:45,400
very happy birthday.

5763
03:23:45,720 --> 03:23:47,440
Now, that's a belated birthday because he was

5764
03:23:47,440 --> 03:23:48,600
celebrated on the fourth.

5765
03:23:49,020 --> 03:23:52,260
Leon Actinson celebrated on the 16th.

5766
03:23:52,260 --> 03:23:55,940
Dame Denise turned 60 on the 18th.

5767
03:23:55,980 --> 03:23:57,280
So recalcitrant crazy.

5768
03:23:57,500 --> 03:23:59,960
Steve, the second says happy birthday to the

5769
03:23:59,960 --> 03:24:01,020
Duke of San Francisco.

5770
03:24:01,020 --> 03:24:03,060
He'll be celebrating on the 28th.

5771
03:24:03,100 --> 03:24:05,600
Dame Anne of Grey Rock says happy birthday

5772
03:24:05,600 --> 03:24:06,200
to her daughter.

5773
03:24:06,380 --> 03:24:09,600
Lexie Spillers turns 13 on the 29th, which,

5774
03:24:10,040 --> 03:24:11,520
of course, we won't actually be celebrating because

5775
03:24:11,520 --> 03:24:12,540
there's no 29th.

5776
03:24:12,840 --> 03:24:14,820
Claire Hedges, which is Pierce Chidley of Melbourne,

5777
03:24:14,940 --> 03:24:15,320
Australia.

5778
03:24:15,520 --> 03:24:16,000
Happy birthday.

5779
03:24:16,020 --> 03:24:18,300
Turns 40 on March 12th.

5780
03:24:18,340 --> 03:24:20,960
And Nancy Wise says happy birthday to her

5781
03:24:20,960 --> 03:24:22,320
husband, Chris, as do we.

5782
03:24:22,480 --> 03:24:24,280
Happy birthday to everybody here for the best

5783
03:24:24,280 --> 03:24:25,940
podcast in the universe.

5784
03:24:28,900 --> 03:24:31,540
No title changes, but we do have Joshua

5785
03:24:31,540 --> 03:24:33,800
Baker, who doesn't care about his pseudonymity.

5786
03:24:34,060 --> 03:24:35,180
So bring out here we go.

5787
03:24:35,260 --> 03:24:36,260
Very visual blade.

5788
03:24:36,420 --> 03:24:37,120
Yeah, it's perfect.

5789
03:24:37,620 --> 03:24:38,900
Joshua, come on, man.

5790
03:24:38,980 --> 03:24:39,960
Step up to the podium.

5791
03:24:40,120 --> 03:24:41,540
You're about to become a knight of the

5792
03:24:41,540 --> 03:24:42,960
no agenda roundtable.

5793
03:24:43,420 --> 03:24:48,100
Thanks to your undenying, undying support of one

5794
03:24:48,100 --> 03:24:48,800
thousand dollars.

5795
03:24:48,880 --> 03:24:49,960
We appreciate it so much.

5796
03:24:49,960 --> 03:24:52,160
I'm very proud to pronounce K.D. as

5797
03:24:52,160 --> 03:24:54,380
Sir Joshua Baker.

5798
03:24:54,580 --> 03:24:56,280
For you, we have hookers and blow rent

5799
03:24:56,280 --> 03:24:58,500
boys and chardonnay prostitutes and nice cigars.

5800
03:24:58,940 --> 03:25:00,760
We also have Polish potato vodka.

5801
03:25:01,000 --> 03:25:02,400
We've got harlots and howl doll.

5802
03:25:02,500 --> 03:25:04,720
We've got redheads and rise beers and blunts.

5803
03:25:05,060 --> 03:25:05,460
Ruben S.

5804
03:25:05,520 --> 03:25:08,080
Lemon and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and

5805
03:25:08,080 --> 03:25:10,260
vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and

5806
03:25:10,260 --> 03:25:13,040
escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and

5807
03:25:13,040 --> 03:25:15,100
pavlova, man, as always here at the roundtable.

5808
03:25:15,500 --> 03:25:18,160
Mutton and mead, a true staple for every

5809
03:25:18,160 --> 03:25:18,960
no agenda night.

5810
03:25:18,960 --> 03:25:21,340
And Dame, you, Sir Joshua, can now go

5811
03:25:21,340 --> 03:25:22,720
to no agenda rings dot com.

5812
03:25:22,820 --> 03:25:24,660
Let us know what your ring size is.

5813
03:25:24,760 --> 03:25:26,640
There is a handy sizing guide right there

5814
03:25:26,640 --> 03:25:28,500
on the website and give us an address.

5815
03:25:28,620 --> 03:25:30,120
And as always, it comes with wax to

5816
03:25:30,120 --> 03:25:33,140
seal your important correspondence and a certificate of

5817
03:25:33,140 --> 03:25:33,640
authenticity.

5818
03:25:33,780 --> 03:25:35,480
Welcome to the no agenda roundtable of the

5819
03:25:35,480 --> 03:25:36,000
Knights and Dames.

5820
03:25:36,120 --> 03:25:38,820
Sir Joshua Baker, no one.

5821
03:25:44,620 --> 03:25:45,260
That's right.

5822
03:25:45,340 --> 03:25:47,320
The no agenda meetup where you get the

5823
03:25:47,320 --> 03:25:49,400
connection that brings you protection, the people you

5824
03:25:49,400 --> 03:25:50,940
meet at a no agenda meetup, which are

5825
03:25:50,940 --> 03:25:53,560
all producer organized, will always result in the

5826
03:25:53,560 --> 03:25:55,940
first responders you call in any emergency.

5827
03:25:56,360 --> 03:25:57,660
And you also can have a nice beer

5828
03:25:57,660 --> 03:25:58,220
and some snacks.

5829
03:25:58,320 --> 03:25:59,120
There's always a lot of fun.

5830
03:25:59,220 --> 03:26:00,220
We have no agenda meetups.

5831
03:26:00,400 --> 03:26:01,660
Dot com is our website where you can

5832
03:26:01,660 --> 03:26:03,300
go and find all of them.

5833
03:26:03,460 --> 03:26:05,560
And recently we had the Oregon Local 33

5834
03:26:05,560 --> 03:26:07,200
meetup and they sent in a report.

5835
03:26:07,320 --> 03:26:09,620
This is Tim Sertenti back in Oregon at

5836
03:26:09,620 --> 03:26:10,520
the Oregon Local 33.

5837
03:26:11,420 --> 03:26:12,140
In the morning.

5838
03:26:12,780 --> 03:26:13,560
This is Liam.

5839
03:26:13,780 --> 03:26:16,900
Sir, they them of Portland and greetings from

5840
03:26:16,900 --> 03:26:18,300
the People's Republic of Portland.

5841
03:26:18,300 --> 03:26:19,280
In the morning.

5842
03:26:19,440 --> 03:26:20,200
This is Dame Emily.

5843
03:26:20,560 --> 03:26:22,400
Hey, it's Max Knight of PDX.

5844
03:26:22,520 --> 03:26:24,600
Have a wonderful something or other.

5845
03:26:25,040 --> 03:26:25,820
This is Tim.

5846
03:26:25,920 --> 03:26:26,960
This is my first meetup.

5847
03:26:27,060 --> 03:26:28,640
I should have gotten the venison burger.

5848
03:26:29,040 --> 03:26:30,800
But the burger that I got was also

5849
03:26:30,800 --> 03:26:31,320
very good.

5850
03:26:31,620 --> 03:26:32,340
This is Rhonda.

5851
03:26:32,540 --> 03:26:33,420
Greetings from Portland.

5852
03:26:34,080 --> 03:26:34,760
Rob here.

5853
03:26:35,040 --> 03:26:35,720
Have a good one.

5854
03:26:36,040 --> 03:26:36,600
This is Hillary.

5855
03:26:36,820 --> 03:26:38,000
And I need a de-douching.

5856
03:26:38,460 --> 03:26:39,100
This is Calvin.

5857
03:26:39,320 --> 03:26:39,880
Five years.

5858
03:26:40,020 --> 03:26:40,720
Still a douchebag.

5859
03:26:41,400 --> 03:26:42,280
This is Daniel.

5860
03:26:42,500 --> 03:26:44,320
John, I've been following you since the 90s.

5861
03:26:44,860 --> 03:26:45,740
Jesse Collins.

5862
03:26:45,740 --> 03:26:48,020
This is Bea from Portland.

5863
03:26:48,420 --> 03:26:49,720
In the morning.

5864
03:26:50,380 --> 03:26:50,940
All right.

5865
03:26:51,020 --> 03:26:52,080
The Portland crew there.

5866
03:26:52,200 --> 03:26:53,860
And there are many more meetups taking place

5867
03:26:53,860 --> 03:26:55,260
around Gitmo Nation today.

5868
03:26:55,420 --> 03:26:57,320
In fact, at six o'clock, the North

5869
03:26:57,320 --> 03:26:59,860
Georgia monthly meetup at Cherry Street Brewing in

5870
03:26:59,860 --> 03:27:02,260
Alpharetta, Georgia, on Friday, the Duke of San

5871
03:27:02,260 --> 03:27:03,540
Francisco birthday bash.

5872
03:27:04,100 --> 03:27:04,900
Well, that's nice.

5873
03:27:05,000 --> 03:27:08,760
That'll be at six thirty three at Tornado.

5874
03:27:09,620 --> 03:27:10,680
Tornado, it says.

5875
03:27:10,820 --> 03:27:12,600
Tornado, San Francisco, California.

5876
03:27:13,100 --> 03:27:13,200
Tornado.

5877
03:27:13,940 --> 03:27:14,500
Tornado.

5878
03:27:14,800 --> 03:27:15,280
Tornado.

5879
03:27:15,280 --> 03:27:15,960
You should go.

5880
03:27:16,720 --> 03:27:17,520
I can't.

5881
03:27:17,580 --> 03:27:17,880
It's Friday.

5882
03:27:18,100 --> 03:27:20,040
I got I've got things to do.

5883
03:27:20,100 --> 03:27:20,940
You got a Saturday.

5884
03:27:21,560 --> 03:27:22,220
I can do Saturday.

5885
03:27:22,340 --> 03:27:23,040
I can't do Friday.

5886
03:27:23,140 --> 03:27:23,620
So I understand.

5887
03:27:23,980 --> 03:27:25,500
No, I'd say you have important.

5888
03:27:25,640 --> 03:27:26,840
I would like to go.

5889
03:27:27,040 --> 03:27:28,400
But what do you do on Fridays that

5890
03:27:28,400 --> 03:27:29,160
I'm unaware of?

5891
03:27:29,220 --> 03:27:30,740
Well, I have a family dinner usually.

5892
03:27:31,140 --> 03:27:32,700
Oh, that's nice.

5893
03:27:32,780 --> 03:27:34,780
But this particular Friday, there's a there's a

5894
03:27:34,780 --> 03:27:36,440
massive protest.

5895
03:27:36,700 --> 03:27:37,300
You're going to.

5896
03:27:37,540 --> 03:27:39,560
I'm going to the protest, the protest, the

5897
03:27:39,560 --> 03:27:43,500
government, you know, walk out on Saturday, March

5898
03:27:43,500 --> 03:27:45,060
1st flight of the no agenda number.

5899
03:27:45,700 --> 03:27:48,020
This is Leo Bravo, who organizes them all

5900
03:27:48,020 --> 03:27:48,520
the time.

5901
03:27:48,600 --> 03:27:50,720
60 times, in fact, 11 o'clock at

5902
03:27:50,720 --> 03:27:53,740
Marina Cafe on Saturday in Wilmington, California, and

5903
03:27:53,740 --> 03:27:55,240
the meeting in the desert, two o'clock

5904
03:27:55,240 --> 03:27:55,840
on Sunday.

5905
03:27:55,920 --> 03:27:58,940
Our next show day, March 2nd, sawmill in

5906
03:27:58,940 --> 03:28:00,300
Albuquerque, New Mexico.

5907
03:28:00,440 --> 03:28:02,080
The Fuzzy Press is organizing that.

5908
03:28:02,340 --> 03:28:03,560
And we do have another meet up on

5909
03:28:03,560 --> 03:28:04,000
Sunday.

5910
03:28:04,180 --> 03:28:05,100
It's a central Jersey.

5911
03:28:05,200 --> 03:28:06,700
We drink and we know things meet up.

5912
03:28:07,480 --> 03:28:10,300
Apocalypse, apocalypse or season of reveal edition two

5913
03:28:10,300 --> 03:28:12,820
o'clock at three B.R. Distillery in

5914
03:28:12,820 --> 03:28:14,300
Keyport, New Jersey.

5915
03:28:14,840 --> 03:28:16,680
Many more meet ups to be found that

5916
03:28:16,680 --> 03:28:17,940
no agenda meet ups dot com.

5917
03:28:18,220 --> 03:28:18,860
Go take a look.

5918
03:28:18,960 --> 03:28:19,820
There's a lot of them.

5919
03:28:19,900 --> 03:28:20,720
You can participate.

5920
03:28:20,960 --> 03:28:22,020
It's producer organized.

5921
03:28:22,160 --> 03:28:22,760
They are free.

5922
03:28:23,340 --> 03:28:25,240
You might buy yourself a drink or someone

5923
03:28:25,240 --> 03:28:26,820
else a drink, but you will meet people

5924
03:28:26,820 --> 03:28:28,620
that you will enjoy for the rest of

5925
03:28:28,620 --> 03:28:29,020
your life.

5926
03:28:29,120 --> 03:28:30,300
No agenda meet ups dot com.

5927
03:28:30,360 --> 03:28:31,920
If you can't find one near you, start

5928
03:28:31,920 --> 03:28:32,640
one yourself.

5929
03:28:44,840 --> 03:28:49,100
You to be where everybody feels the same.

5930
03:28:50,580 --> 03:28:52,020
It's like a party.

5931
03:28:52,260 --> 03:28:54,520
Time now in the program where we select

5932
03:28:54,520 --> 03:28:55,200
an ISO.

5933
03:28:55,600 --> 03:28:57,480
That's a little snippet that we'll use at

5934
03:28:57,480 --> 03:28:58,340
the end of the show.

5935
03:28:58,600 --> 03:29:00,240
I see you only have one today.

5936
03:29:00,360 --> 03:29:01,340
That's rather surprising.

5937
03:29:01,340 --> 03:29:02,540
This is the carry over.

5938
03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:04,420
You said I should carry this one over.

5939
03:29:04,860 --> 03:29:05,860
You took it easy.

5940
03:29:05,940 --> 03:29:07,600
You laid back, kicked back and went, I'm

5941
03:29:07,600 --> 03:29:08,640
just going to carry this over.

5942
03:29:08,700 --> 03:29:09,460
I'll be good to go.

5943
03:29:10,300 --> 03:29:12,260
Well, I just figured the way things are

5944
03:29:12,260 --> 03:29:13,240
going, I'm good to go.

5945
03:29:13,240 --> 03:29:14,860
But I'm not sure what you play yours

5946
03:29:14,860 --> 03:29:15,720
and we'll find out.

5947
03:29:15,780 --> 03:29:18,560
As long as you're happy, I'm happy.

5948
03:29:21,520 --> 03:29:22,140
That's it.

5949
03:29:22,320 --> 03:29:22,940
That's one.

5950
03:29:23,060 --> 03:29:23,500
That's one.

5951
03:29:23,600 --> 03:29:24,360
And I have this one.

5952
03:29:24,640 --> 03:29:25,060
Oh, my God.

5953
03:29:25,120 --> 03:29:26,300
I use it all the time now.

5954
03:29:26,380 --> 03:29:27,000
It's so great.

5955
03:29:28,040 --> 03:29:30,240
Too too echoey, too echoey.

5956
03:29:30,300 --> 03:29:31,060
And then here's yours.

5957
03:29:31,160 --> 03:29:33,080
Try and top that for a killer show.

5958
03:29:33,320 --> 03:29:35,300
This is you're going to have to find

5959
03:29:35,300 --> 03:29:37,260
the new one because this can't carry over.

5960
03:29:37,340 --> 03:29:37,920
It's too good.

5961
03:29:39,200 --> 03:29:40,600
It is just too good.

5962
03:29:40,640 --> 03:29:42,200
Now, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for

5963
03:29:42,200 --> 03:29:44,000
everybody's highlight of every program.

5964
03:29:44,000 --> 03:29:45,320
John's tip of the day.

5965
03:29:45,820 --> 03:29:48,760
Great advice from you and me.

5966
03:29:49,100 --> 03:29:54,740
Just a tip with JC and sometimes created

5967
03:29:54,740 --> 03:29:55,820
by Dana Brunetti.

5968
03:29:57,420 --> 03:29:57,820
All right.

5969
03:29:59,880 --> 03:30:05,220
So I have a habit over the years

5970
03:30:05,220 --> 03:30:09,140
because I cook a lot of trying various

5971
03:30:09,140 --> 03:30:13,420
seasonings that are produced by commercial vendors that,

5972
03:30:13,500 --> 03:30:14,980
you know, do one thing or another.

5973
03:30:16,980 --> 03:30:18,920
And I want to recommend one.

5974
03:30:19,060 --> 03:30:21,400
I've recommended body as I think already.

5975
03:30:21,820 --> 03:30:23,420
But this is one that this is kind

5976
03:30:23,420 --> 03:30:24,220
of a Greeks.

5977
03:30:24,560 --> 03:30:26,240
This is a Greek seasoning.

5978
03:30:26,240 --> 03:30:28,540
That's not the typical Greek seasoning.

5979
03:30:28,860 --> 03:30:30,460
And I will mention that there's a lot

5980
03:30:30,460 --> 03:30:31,860
of these things are quite important to a

5981
03:30:31,860 --> 03:30:33,040
lot certain cuisines.

5982
03:30:33,180 --> 03:30:36,000
And I will mention Tony C's for one.

5983
03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:37,600
That's not today's tip.

5984
03:30:37,600 --> 03:30:39,560
But if you cook, you know, people are

5985
03:30:39,560 --> 03:30:41,500
saying you want to cook in Cajun style,

5986
03:30:41,720 --> 03:30:44,000
you put some of the Cajun spicing, you

5987
03:30:44,000 --> 03:30:45,080
put some of this in.

5988
03:30:45,140 --> 03:30:47,840
It's always Tony C's and it comes in

5989
03:30:47,840 --> 03:30:49,140
a green thing.

5990
03:30:49,280 --> 03:30:50,600
And this is Tony C's.

5991
03:30:50,680 --> 03:30:52,040
Tony C's like Tony.

5992
03:30:52,060 --> 03:30:53,020
Tony, catch your air.

5993
03:30:53,240 --> 03:30:55,420
I think it's called Tony C's.

5994
03:30:55,480 --> 03:30:56,540
It says Tony C's.

5995
03:30:56,780 --> 03:30:58,840
And if you don't use Tony C's or

5996
03:30:58,840 --> 03:31:00,840
know about Tony C's and you never cook,

5997
03:31:01,060 --> 03:31:03,220
you know, Southern style cooking because everybody uses

5998
03:31:03,220 --> 03:31:04,620
Tony C's.

5999
03:31:04,660 --> 03:31:07,060
There's there's competitors to Tony C's.

6000
03:31:07,060 --> 03:31:08,220
Emeril has a season.

6001
03:31:08,700 --> 03:31:09,140
Oh, this.

6002
03:31:09,360 --> 03:31:09,740
Bam.

6003
03:31:09,860 --> 03:31:11,140
That's all just fake news.

6004
03:31:11,260 --> 03:31:13,180
It's not an Emeril is nothing close to

6005
03:31:13,180 --> 03:31:13,720
Tony C.

6006
03:31:14,560 --> 03:31:16,180
Well, Tony C is the stuff you want.

6007
03:31:16,240 --> 03:31:18,060
But this is the one I'm recommending for

6008
03:31:18,060 --> 03:31:20,400
today's show, because people should already be on

6009
03:31:20,400 --> 03:31:21,480
to Tony C's.

6010
03:31:22,940 --> 03:31:25,240
Zeus, Zeus, Zeus.

6011
03:31:25,600 --> 03:31:27,900
This is a very interesting seasoning.

6012
03:31:28,000 --> 03:31:30,400
It's it's a it's kind of a paprika

6013
03:31:30,400 --> 03:31:31,660
colored dark.

6014
03:31:33,180 --> 03:31:35,720
Greek type seasoning, and it's pretty good on

6015
03:31:35,720 --> 03:31:43,480
everything, like hash brown potatoes, eggs, meat, stews

6016
03:31:43,480 --> 03:31:47,300
is a very good proprietary blend of seasoning

6017
03:31:47,300 --> 03:31:49,300
that just works well with a lot of

6018
03:31:49,300 --> 03:31:49,480
stuff.

6019
03:31:50,080 --> 03:31:52,200
I I used to buy it at the

6020
03:31:52,200 --> 03:31:53,500
store and then all of a sudden I

6021
03:31:53,500 --> 03:31:54,080
can't get it.

6022
03:31:54,100 --> 03:31:54,880
I had to get it online.

6023
03:31:55,100 --> 03:31:57,680
But some stores still carry it.

6024
03:31:58,020 --> 03:31:59,100
Killer product.

6025
03:31:59,480 --> 03:32:00,000
Zeus, Zeus.

6026
03:32:00,720 --> 03:32:01,160
Interesting.

6027
03:32:01,480 --> 03:32:03,040
For some reason, I thought you would never

6028
03:32:03,040 --> 03:32:05,560
be a guy that would use a bought

6029
03:32:05,560 --> 03:32:07,460
seasoning, that you would be the kind of

6030
03:32:07,460 --> 03:32:09,900
chef that would create his own.

6031
03:32:10,420 --> 03:32:12,560
See, even Emeril, when he does his cooking

6032
03:32:12,560 --> 03:32:14,040
show and other people do, too, they always

6033
03:32:14,040 --> 03:32:15,540
say, well, and I put in some Cajun

6034
03:32:15,540 --> 03:32:15,940
seasoning.

6035
03:32:16,060 --> 03:32:17,240
They're using Tony C's.

6036
03:32:17,600 --> 03:32:21,300
Oh, well, you you always unless you want

6037
03:32:21,300 --> 03:32:22,660
to make your own Tony C's.

6038
03:32:22,720 --> 03:32:24,360
But these guys have actually done some research.

6039
03:32:24,360 --> 03:32:26,280
So you get this much of this, this

6040
03:32:26,280 --> 03:32:26,800
much of that.

6041
03:32:26,860 --> 03:32:28,080
It all we have.

6042
03:32:28,160 --> 03:32:30,920
One of our producers produces a salt and

6043
03:32:30,920 --> 03:32:32,180
pepper called both.

6044
03:32:32,620 --> 03:32:34,100
There's a salt and pepper blend.

6045
03:32:34,260 --> 03:32:34,980
You probably have some.

6046
03:32:35,100 --> 03:32:36,140
Yeah, he sent me some of that.

6047
03:32:36,220 --> 03:32:36,860
This is very interesting.

6048
03:32:36,900 --> 03:32:38,060
It's an interesting product.

6049
03:32:38,380 --> 03:32:39,100
And it works.

6050
03:32:39,280 --> 03:32:39,660
It does.

6051
03:32:40,580 --> 03:32:41,980
And you know, it saves me time.

6052
03:32:42,720 --> 03:32:43,740
It saves time.

6053
03:32:43,740 --> 03:32:46,040
And it's and it's tasty and it's gone

6054
03:32:46,040 --> 03:32:47,300
through some effort.

6055
03:32:47,600 --> 03:32:50,680
So I always use I've always try.

6056
03:32:50,780 --> 03:32:51,580
I try these.

6057
03:32:51,780 --> 03:32:52,340
Not of them.

6058
03:32:52,560 --> 03:32:53,360
Not all of them are good.

6059
03:32:53,440 --> 03:32:57,100
I'm saying proprietary seasonings are not a bad

6060
03:32:57,100 --> 03:32:57,420
idea.

6061
03:32:57,520 --> 03:33:00,340
It's a shortcut that is not cheating the

6062
03:33:00,340 --> 03:33:01,060
way I see it.

6063
03:33:01,060 --> 03:33:03,500
If you find a good one, use it.

6064
03:33:03,940 --> 03:33:05,020
That both products.

6065
03:33:05,340 --> 03:33:06,840
And when I saw that, because it came

6066
03:33:06,840 --> 03:33:09,900
into the box, I was like, well, why

6067
03:33:09,900 --> 03:33:11,580
didn't someone do this much earlier?

6068
03:33:11,860 --> 03:33:12,940
It makes so much sense.

6069
03:33:13,240 --> 03:33:15,740
It's one of those pepper in one makes

6070
03:33:15,740 --> 03:33:17,400
you good to go.

6071
03:33:17,760 --> 03:33:19,860
That's another outstanding product.

6072
03:33:19,940 --> 03:33:22,280
Yes, it's it had to take some effort,

6073
03:33:22,280 --> 03:33:24,380
because if you would mix salt and pepper

6074
03:33:24,380 --> 03:33:27,340
yourself, yeah, it would it would separate.

6075
03:33:27,440 --> 03:33:28,780
It would pepper to go to the bottom

6076
03:33:28,780 --> 03:33:29,700
of the salt, go to the bottom.

6077
03:33:29,700 --> 03:33:31,980
Something would happen, but he's got it.

6078
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:34,040
So it's this exact same grind.

6079
03:33:34,340 --> 03:33:35,680
Yes, it's on both products.

6080
03:33:35,800 --> 03:33:38,200
So it has a so it does even

6081
03:33:38,200 --> 03:33:39,620
out when you when you use it.

6082
03:33:39,660 --> 03:33:42,240
It's part of his proprietary process.

6083
03:33:42,340 --> 03:33:42,860
I understand.

6084
03:33:43,180 --> 03:33:43,740
Yeah, right.

6085
03:33:43,820 --> 03:33:44,560
That's what it is.

6086
03:33:44,760 --> 03:33:45,460
All right, everybody.

6087
03:33:45,720 --> 03:33:47,300
No, I've always been a big fan of

6088
03:33:47,300 --> 03:33:47,920
these things.

6089
03:33:48,320 --> 03:33:48,720
OK.

6090
03:34:07,200 --> 03:34:11,080
And sometimes created by Dana Brunetti, Zeus.

6091
03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:12,180
I'm sorry, Zeus.

6092
03:34:12,380 --> 03:34:14,260
I misunderstood the whole thing.

6093
03:34:14,400 --> 03:34:14,680
Zeus.

6094
03:34:14,840 --> 03:34:15,180
Yes.

6095
03:34:15,320 --> 03:34:16,980
So but Tony sees is a good day.

6096
03:34:17,080 --> 03:34:19,340
Whoever's putting this together at Tony sees with

6097
03:34:19,340 --> 03:34:19,940
the Zeus.

6098
03:34:20,000 --> 03:34:20,380
All right.

6099
03:34:20,500 --> 03:34:22,980
Tony, a twofer, a twofer and both.

6100
03:34:23,060 --> 03:34:24,480
Put both on there while you're at it.

6101
03:34:24,580 --> 03:34:24,820
It's good.

6102
03:34:24,980 --> 03:34:25,200
Good.

6103
03:34:25,380 --> 03:34:25,980
Yeah, you could.

6104
03:34:26,440 --> 03:34:27,840
Hey, that's it for no agenda.

6105
03:34:27,920 --> 03:34:28,880
We went long today.

6106
03:34:28,880 --> 03:34:30,160
Alert the affiliates.

6107
03:34:30,440 --> 03:34:31,660
I don't know what happened.

6108
03:34:31,760 --> 03:34:32,100
We got it.

6109
03:34:32,140 --> 03:34:32,920
We're out of control.

6110
03:34:33,160 --> 03:34:34,800
We need to stop doing that.

6111
03:34:35,700 --> 03:34:38,620
Coming up next on no agenda stream, if

6112
03:34:38,620 --> 03:34:40,680
you want to stay tuned, we have the

6113
03:34:40,680 --> 03:34:44,480
latest episode from the grumpy old dames, Lady

6114
03:34:44,480 --> 03:34:47,360
Vox and Dame Black Loka, two big favorites

6115
03:34:47,360 --> 03:34:50,320
of the the Darren O'Neill rock and

6116
03:34:50,320 --> 03:34:51,000
roll pre show.

6117
03:34:51,360 --> 03:34:53,840
Also, end of show mixes from Leo Lapuke,

6118
03:34:53,960 --> 03:34:56,580
David Kekta and Sir Nedwood.

6119
03:34:57,000 --> 03:34:58,080
Stay tuned for that.

6120
03:34:58,080 --> 03:35:00,400
And I am coming to you from the

6121
03:35:00,400 --> 03:35:02,420
heart of the Texas Hill County here in

6122
03:35:02,420 --> 03:35:04,200
Fredericksburg, Texas, in the morning, everybody.

6123
03:35:04,580 --> 03:35:05,300
I'm Adam Curry.

6124
03:35:05,760 --> 03:35:07,100
And I want to remind people that I

6125
03:35:07,100 --> 03:35:09,200
want to thank Darren O'Neill in particular

6126
03:35:09,200 --> 03:35:11,620
for reminding us how bad guns and roses

6127
03:35:11,620 --> 03:35:12,240
can be.

6128
03:35:13,760 --> 03:35:14,760
I'm John C.

6129
03:35:14,820 --> 03:35:15,040
DeVore.

6130
03:35:15,360 --> 03:35:17,540
We'll be back on Sunday with more media

6131
03:35:17,540 --> 03:35:18,680
deconstruction for you.

6132
03:35:18,800 --> 03:35:21,920
Please remember us at no agenda donations dot

6133
03:35:21,920 --> 03:35:22,260
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6134
03:35:22,660 --> 03:35:26,240
Until then, adios, mofos, a hui hui and

6135
03:35:26,240 --> 03:35:26,820
such.

6136
03:35:34,100 --> 03:35:36,680
I want to introduce the biggest fans of

6137
03:35:36,680 --> 03:35:37,920
Ukraine, Anthony Blinken.

6138
03:35:39,360 --> 03:35:43,360
The denizens of a bar in Kiev, Secretary

6139
03:35:43,360 --> 03:35:44,880
of State Anthony Blinken.

6140
03:35:45,200 --> 03:35:48,320
He went to a bar and jammed with

6141
03:35:48,320 --> 03:35:50,300
a local Ukrainian rock band.

6142
03:35:50,380 --> 03:35:52,040
He was wearing jeans and a black shirt

6143
03:35:52,040 --> 03:35:53,080
because he's so cool.

6144
03:35:53,260 --> 03:35:55,260
For a war torn country that is facing

6145
03:35:55,260 --> 03:35:58,240
genocidal demolition, it'd be cool to dig and

6146
03:35:58,240 --> 03:36:00,060
jam and party with a bunch of people

6147
03:36:00,060 --> 03:36:00,960
who are drinking it up.

6148
03:36:01,020 --> 03:36:01,760
They have unlimited.

6149
03:36:01,920 --> 03:36:03,160
They will be funded forever.

6150
03:36:03,760 --> 03:36:06,020
And it was obviously for the cameras.

6151
03:36:06,400 --> 03:36:08,200
This was all planned and all staged.

6152
03:36:08,900 --> 03:36:10,600
Who is this for exactly?

6153
03:36:11,060 --> 03:36:13,280
It does not send a message of desperation

6154
03:36:13,280 --> 03:36:14,840
on the part of Ukraine.

6155
03:36:15,260 --> 03:36:16,820
Secretary of State Blinken jamming in a bar

6156
03:36:16,820 --> 03:36:18,820
in Kiev while you're forced to cough up

6157
03:36:18,820 --> 03:36:20,240
tens of billions of dollars that we don't

6158
03:36:20,240 --> 03:36:21,440
have for the war.

6159
03:36:21,660 --> 03:36:23,760
There are too many failed theater kids, actors

6160
03:36:23,760 --> 03:36:25,180
and musicians and politics.

6161
03:36:25,640 --> 03:36:28,200
The actual band, they were told someone famous

6162
03:36:28,200 --> 03:36:29,520
was going to come and play with them.

6163
03:36:29,520 --> 03:36:31,400
They were told it was Neil Young.

6164
03:36:59,520 --> 03:36:59,900
Show.

6165
03:37:04,820 --> 03:37:08,500
They're in your bedroom, in your living room,

6166
03:37:08,580 --> 03:37:09,860
in your businesses.

6167
03:37:10,600 --> 03:37:12,740
They got your data, dumbass.

6168
03:37:12,880 --> 03:37:14,140
They got all your stuff.

6169
03:37:14,680 --> 03:37:17,220
Elon Musk has his tentacles in everything you're

6170
03:37:17,220 --> 03:37:19,240
doing, not just off of X.

6171
03:37:19,840 --> 03:37:21,580
But now he's in the Treasury Department.

6172
03:37:21,600 --> 03:37:23,520
He's in the Labor Department.

6173
03:37:23,760 --> 03:37:25,500
He's in the Department of Homeland Security.

6174
03:37:29,700 --> 03:37:31,700
He seems to do what he has to

6175
03:37:31,700 --> 03:37:34,500
do, so I want somebody to show that

6176
03:37:34,500 --> 03:37:36,800
they care enough to get off their fat

6177
03:37:36,800 --> 03:37:39,160
ass and say something about it.

6178
03:37:39,700 --> 03:37:42,240
It's all part of the Democrats.

6179
03:37:43,480 --> 03:37:45,520
And he, of course, is supposed to be

6180
03:37:45,520 --> 03:37:45,920
Republican.

6181
03:37:46,660 --> 03:37:48,220
Just going unhinged.

6182
03:37:48,540 --> 03:37:50,200
We've been noticing the cursing.

6183
03:37:50,720 --> 03:37:51,560
And he had a lot of things out

6184
03:37:51,560 --> 03:37:51,700
of you.

6185
03:37:51,820 --> 03:37:53,920
Damn this, damn that, off your fat ass.

6186
03:37:54,060 --> 03:37:55,240
Did you hear James Carville?

6187
03:38:02,840 --> 03:38:13,780
The EU,

6188
03:38:14,480 --> 03:38:17,680
there's no turning back.

6189
03:38:18,780 --> 03:38:22,660
Give us all your gas.

6190
03:38:23,200 --> 03:38:28,520
We will save you from that evil Ruskin

6191
03:38:28,520 --> 03:38:29,300
Putin.

6192
03:38:29,760 --> 03:38:33,420
Let BIMF be gluten.

6193
03:38:33,920 --> 03:38:38,460
Everybody wants to hear you cry.

6194
03:38:38,460 --> 03:38:42,480
There's a leak that we're pointing to you.

6195
03:38:42,800 --> 03:38:46,360
Just look out when the bombs come tumbling

6196
03:38:46,360 --> 03:38:47,080
down.

6197
03:38:47,560 --> 03:38:50,240
And you and I will be right behind

6198
03:38:50,240 --> 03:38:50,940
you.

6199
03:38:51,300 --> 03:38:55,200
So sad you almost made it.

6200
03:38:55,560 --> 03:38:59,240
Too bad we had to fake it.

6201
03:38:59,660 --> 03:39:03,960
Everybody wants to hear you cry.

6202
03:39:11,160 --> 03:39:20,460
The best podcast in the universe.

6203
03:39:20,620 --> 03:39:25,480
Adios, Mopo, Dvorak, .org, Slash N A.

6204
03:39:26,560 --> 03:39:28,600
Try and top that for a killer show.