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The whole thing is staged.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, April 20th, 2025.

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This year award-winning give-all nation media

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assassination episode 1757.

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This is no agenda.

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He is reason.

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And we're broadcasting live from the heart of

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the Texas hill country here in FEMA region

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number 6.

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Good morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

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And from northern Silicon Valley where everybody's saying

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happy Easter, I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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This is Crackpot and Cosgill in the audience.

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I almost didn't make it.

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I almost didn't make it.

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Jeez.

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I got COVID.

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I got COVID.

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I picked up COVID in Holland.

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Oh, did you pick up something on the

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way back?

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Yeah, COVID.

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You didn't pick up COVID.

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Well, everyone says it's COVID.

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There must be COVID.

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I'm probably dying of the COVID.

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You sound terrible.

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Yeah, thank you.

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There's a cough button you have.

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I think you're just doing this for dramatic

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purposes.

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Hello?

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See, now when I hit the cough button,

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then you make a big problem out of

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it.

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Hello?

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Hello?

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Hello?

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Are you there?

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I'm here.

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Yeah, I think I picked something up at

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the party.

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What are the chances?

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200 elites all gathered together.

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One of them is going to be a

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seething, illness-ridden human resource.

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So you do have some ailment.

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I do, yes.

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Normally, you never show it even if you're

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sick as a dog, but you do sound

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a little congested.

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That's the problem.

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It started Thursday during our last show, and

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I was using the cough button continuously.

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Seriously, let's put it that way.

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Not so much because I was coughing, but

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it's just the blowing my nose, man.

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It's horrible.

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It's horrible.

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It's horrible.

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Anyway, I'm so happy that it gives you

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such joy.

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It's funny.

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It's not funny.

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It's not funny.

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I mean, I could have called it-

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Gallivanting around the world wondering why you're sick.

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I'm not wondering why I'm sick, but I

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have a question for you.

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Forget about SOA.

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No.

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It is 420.

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A lot going on in this day.

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And the question I have for you is,

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are you now currently, at this moment, under

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martial law?

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Oh, that's right.

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Today is martial law day.

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Yes, I am.

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I mean, it's 113- I already forgot

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about that stupidity.

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No, I hadn't forgot about it because it

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was even like a 10-minute topic on

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The Hill.

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What's the girl's name?

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Crystal Ball?

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Crystal Ball.

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Crystal Ball.

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That's her name, right?

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No, she's not on The Hill.

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They do an independent podcast now.

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No, I thought this was on The Hill.

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Well, The Hill, no.

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She used to be on The Hill, but

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she's not on The Hill anymore.

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Well, she was all beside herself.

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And, you know, first of all, I mean,

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she was so, I mean, the big-

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I completely, you know, I completely dropped the

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ball on this.

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Well, you think that I would think that

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Easter is the most important thing to think

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about today, or that it's 420 day, or

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Hitler's birthday.

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But no, I was watching for martial law

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because we've been assured today would be martial

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law.

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but we've been assured by these various screwballs

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with no foundation.

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understand the foundation of this thing.

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Then the big chyron said, 420 martial law,

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420, 4 slash 20 martial law.

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I'm like, it's Easter.

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I don't- just on its face that

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this president would declare martial law on Easter

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is highly unlikely.

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421, maybe, maybe, maybe it'll happen tomorrow.

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is growing.

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Resistance is swelling.

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Both at the grassroots- I'm sorry, it's

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swelling.

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The resistance is swelling.

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Resistance is swelling, both at the grassroots and

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the institutional level.

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Hundreds of thousands of people have turned out

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to Bernie and AOC's fight oligarchy tour, including

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large crowds in red states like Idaho.

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of the hands-off protests.

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Members of Congress cannot hold a town hall

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without being flooded by outraged constituents.

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Universities are beginning to fight back rather than

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get rolled.

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Law firms are starting to think twice about

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their capitulation bribery deals.

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Democrats have moved from Cory Booker's show speech

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to Chris Van Hollen's genuinely courageous flight to

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tangle with Bukele in El Salvador.

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The courts are becoming increasingly assertive.

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And bond traders are apparently the actual deep

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state.

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Now, how will Trump respond to this rapid

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political shift and mounting backlash?

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It won't be by backing down or changing

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course.

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It will be by cracking down.

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It will be by cracking down.

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That's right.

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Martial law.

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He's going to put military on the street

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so that he can ship everybody off.

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They're going to become the Amazon of shipping

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human resources out of the country.

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Some of this project, of course, is already

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well in motion.

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He's used supposed national emergencies and national security

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threats already to claim extraordinary powers by his

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terrorist program and by invoking the Alien Enemies

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Act.

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But there's more.

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On April 20th, pursuant to an executive order

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that Trump signed on day one of his

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presidency, he is going to receive a report

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from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and fascist Barbie

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Kristi Noem about whether or not- Hey,

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we pioneered A.G. Barbie.

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I have to say a fascist Barbie may

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be better.

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Well, fascist Barbie refers to Kristi Noem.

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A.G. Barbie refers to- Oh, that's

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right.

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It's Pam Bondi.

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Who do we have as Ken?

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Is it VP Ken?

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Hegseth it would be Ken.

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Hegseth.

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Hegseth Ken.

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Hegseth and fascist Barbie Kristi Noem about whether

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or not he should invoke the Insurrection Act

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of 1807.

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Now, such an invocation would open up extraordinary

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powers for this president to use our military

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in our streets against our citizens.

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There it is.

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You see, this is what this whole thing

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was about.

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It's about this report that is supposed to

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be delivered today because reports always come on

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Easter Sunday.

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Yeah, because people love working on the holidays.

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There's nothing like it.

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And so there's going to be this report

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from Hegseth Ken.

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Or maybe just call him Ken Hegseth.

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No, Hegseth Ken is better.

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And Hegseth Ken is going to say, we're

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ready, Mr. President.

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We're ready to start rousing citizens on the

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street.

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Of course, there are any number of ways

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in which he might deploy that power.

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Perhaps he'd deploy the military to the border.

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Part of an expanded militarized immigration response.

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Militarized.

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Acting head of ICE has mused about ramping

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up mass deportation on an industrial scale.

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Even fantasizing about fleets of trucks scooping up

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immigrants the way that Amazon efficiently delivers packages

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on a mass scale.

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Quote, we need to get better at treating

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this like a business.

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Acting ICE director Todd Lyons said, explaining he

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wants to see a deportation process like Amazon

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Prime, but with human beings.

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Trump and the Republicans are pushing for a

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much larger budget for ICE and for private

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prison contractors to run detention centers.

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industrial scale, it would be hard to beat

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the military.

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think of the genuinely evil way this administration

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has already conducted itself.

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Do you feel comfortable handing them the tools

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for a militarized industrial scale human removal and

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incarceration system?

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Do you really think the horror is going

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to be just reserved to the criminals, the

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gang members, when we already know that 90

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% of the men that they sent to

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a slave labor torture dungeon were innocent, like

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Amazon Prime, but for fascism, I guess.

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90%?

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Yes, 90%.

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You can tell by looking at them.

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I hope that you can find more of

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those TikTokers who, when they say, oh, it's

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coming, it wasn't 420, it's going to be

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430.

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Oh, yeah, they're going to move the date.

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But this is the insanity that we've come

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to in our mainstream media messaging system, which

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is still, it's still live.

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It's still hobbling along.

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The morning shows this morning, the Sunday morning

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shows, all filled with Easter cheer and filled

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with Chris Van Hollen, who went to El

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Salvador because he is so brave.

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He's so brave.

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And he talked to, what was this guy

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doing not in a jail, by the way?

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Yeah, they went to a hotel, they were

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having mojitos.

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Margaritas, margaritas.

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The guy was dressed with a backward hat

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and a Hawaiian shirt.

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What was this?

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And so they brought a photographer along, so

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they took some photo ops.

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And it was ridiculous.

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And the fact that this, this is beyond

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Well, so he was on every one of

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the top three shows, Face the Nation, Meet

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the Press, and This Week.

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And they all had the exact same script,

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exact same questions, and the exact same answers.

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So let's listen to CBS.

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This is basically a three by three morning

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show.

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It is, it is.

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But I will not appropriate your jingle.

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Senator, thank you so much for joining us

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this morning.

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You're just back from El Salvador.

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And I want to pick up where we

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left off with Camilo.

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Because the White House is using these new

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details to build its case that Abrigo Garcia

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should stay where he is and not come

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back to the US.

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Your response?

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Well, Weijia, it's good to be with you.

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And his case is of course separate.

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Who's Weijia?

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Is she new?

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Weijia?

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Weijia.

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It's a Weijia board.

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Weijia, Weijia Zhang.

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Weijia Zhang.

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Well, Weijia, it's good to be with you.

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And his case is of course separate than

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the case of the Venezuelans that you were

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talking about earlier.

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And in Abrigo Garcia's case, the Trump administration

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admitted in federal court that he'd been wrongfully

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abducted and sent to a prison in El

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Salvador.

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But rather than fixing the problem as the

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Supreme Court- Wait, wait.

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So he's quoting them and somebody came out

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and said he was wrongfully abducted?

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I don't think so.

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No.

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Well, of course not.

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They said we made a clerical error, but

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he was no good anyway.

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Put him on the Amazon Express.

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The Supreme Court has said in terms of

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his need to use their efforts to facilitate

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his release, they reprimanded the lawyer who made

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that case.

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So they need to bring him home.

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Now, with respect to these other facts, I

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say put up or shut up in court.

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This was his continuous thing.

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So on all the networks, put up or

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shut up in court.

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Here's NBC, meet the press.

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You know, while you were in El Salvador,

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the White House was counterprogramming, effectively releasing information

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about- Counterprogramming?

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That's interesting.

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So they're aware of the distraction of the

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week and how it works?

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Counterprogramming?

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The White House was counterprogramming, effectively releasing information

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about Mr. Abrego's Garcia's background, including a police

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report suggesting he's a member of MS-13,

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details about a restraining order from his wife

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who ultimately dropped the matter, and a police

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report in which an officer said he suspected

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Mr. Abrego Garcia may have been involved in

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human trafficking.

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Now, he's never been charged with a crime,

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but is his past complicating the broader argument

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that you are trying to make here about

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due process?

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Well, what Donald Trump is trying to do

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is change the subject.

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Let's make no bones about that, right?

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No bones about it.

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This subject is the Trump administration's ignoring a

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Supreme Court order 9-0 to facilitate his

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return because they admitted in court, they, the

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Trump administration, that he'd been wrongfully detained.

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Now, what I have said is Donald Trump

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and his administration need to put up or

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shut up in court.

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There it is, put up or shut up

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in court.

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Can ABC go for the hat trick, Jonathan

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Karl?

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Are you concerned about your defense of somebody?

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Obviously, everybody in this country, even those undocumented

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immigrants, have rights.

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But are you concerned about standing so forcefully

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with somebody that has, you know, at least

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a questionable record?

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I am not defending the man.

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I'm defending the rights of this man to

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due process.

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And the Trump administration has admitted in court

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that he was wrongfully detained and wrongfully deported.

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My mission and my purpose is to make

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sure that we uphold the rule of law.

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Because if we take it away from him,

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we do jeopardize it for everybody else.

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Everybody.

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I do want to point out, Karl, yes,

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the Trump administration is trying to change the

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story.

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They're trying to detract attention.

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Here's where they should put their facts.

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Let me guess.

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They should put it before the court.

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They should put up or shut up in

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court.

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I mean, come on.

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Does nobody have an exclusive anymore these days?

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This guy who sounds like a nervous wreck.

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He sounds like, you know, a character, actually.

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He's shaking his voice.

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You know, he's doing this as a stunt

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to run for president.

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This guy's running for president?

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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Oh, boy.

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Well, you pretty much summarized it right there.

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Let's do a triple shot here of Margarita

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Gate.

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So did you walk into a trap, though?

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I mean, they bring him to your hotel.

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It's a trap.

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He's in civilian clothes.

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And you met with him.

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We saw the images that you put out.

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Of meeting with him, you know, at the

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beginning of the meeting.

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You're sitting there.

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You're drinking water and talking to the guy

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in the hotel lobby, I assume.

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Water?

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And then at some point, they bring in

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these, like, you know, glasses that look like

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margarita glasses.

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What margarita glasses?

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It wasn't a trap.

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My goal was to meet with him.

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How come he wasn't in the- I

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don't understand.

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Why was he not in the El Salvadorian

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jail with his head shaved bald?

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This is the part I don't understand.

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The whole thing is staged.

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Yeah.

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And make sure I could tell his wife

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and family he was okay.

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That was my goal.

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And I achieved that goal.

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You're absolutely right that the Salvadorian- That

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wasn't his goal.

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No.

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His goal was what?

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To run for president.

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His goal, he said at the beginning of

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this whole trek that he was going to

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go there and get him and bring him

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back.

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That was his goal.

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That was the goal, yes.

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Yes.

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Well, it seems like they could have just

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hopped onto the jet and taken off.

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I don't think it was an issue.

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The guy was not detained.

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No, he was hanging out in the hotel

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lobby.

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Hanging out in the hotel lobby.

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I achieved that goal.

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You're absolutely right that the Salvadorian authorities tried

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to deceive people.

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They tried to make it look like he

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was in paradise.

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They actually wanted to have the meeting by

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the hotel pool originally.

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I wonder who really wanted to have the

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meeting.

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The producers were probably like, hey, this is

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a much better shot over here by the

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pool.

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We can all be outside.

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Really?

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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We had to negotiate that.

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They wanted to put me right overlooking the

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pool.

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In fact, if you had a different angle

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on the camera shot, you would see the

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pool.

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Because they did write that.

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Bukele put out a statement saying miraculously risen

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from the death camps and torture and sipping

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margaritas with you.

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I mean, they were really trying to make

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you look like you were hanging out with

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somebody that they say is a gang member.

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Oh, no.

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Let's see what CBS.

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We just.

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I want to show our viewers some pictures

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that the president.

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Do you believe that this was the number

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one topic on all three Sunday news shows?

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This is what blows me away.

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There's a lot going on.

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We are under martial law.

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People of El Salvador.

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Bukele posted showing you and Abrego Garcia sitting

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around what appears to be margaritas.

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You have blamed him for trying to deceive

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people with props.

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After he posted those images, he also posted,

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quote, I love chess.

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Do you have any concerns that the Salvadoran

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government used you as a pawn to make

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their point that Abrego Garcia is doing well

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and that he should stay where he is?

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Oh, I see what she did there.

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She said chess pawn.

510
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OK, no.

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In fact, the El Salvadoran government tried really

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hard not to let me see him.

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But I think they realized that that was

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not a good look at the end of

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the day.

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I had press conferences in El Salvador with

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local press and made the point that El

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Salvador was.

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Wait a minute.

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How can there be local press under that

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dictatorship of Bukele?

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This doesn't make any sense.

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Violating international law by not allowing anyone to

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reach him, not his wife, not his lawyers,

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nobody.

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They realized that was a bad look.

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So I'm glad I met him.

528
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That was the purpose of my visit.

529
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Yeah, but the glass.

530
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Wait, hold on.

531
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He just changed.

532
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The purpose is different again.

533
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It's perfect.

534
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No, it's perfect.

535
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He keeps changing it.

536
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A new purpose.

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Nobody.

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They realized that was a bad look.

539
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So I'm glad I met him.

540
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That was the purpose of my visit.

541
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You're right.

542
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They go to great lengths to deceive people.

543
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And that's what you saw because they.

544
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Those evil Bitcoin people in El Salvador.

545
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These government guys essentially told the waiters to

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bring these drinks that appear to look like

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margaritas to the table.

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No one touched them.

549
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I can go into the details about how

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their whole scheme was set up.

551
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But the reality is, if you look at

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the photos, when I first sat down and

553
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the ones at the end, you can see

554
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that that was all staged.

555
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They're trying to create the impression that this

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is a guy in paradise.

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When in fact, he's been in one of

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the most notorious prisons in the world.

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00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:47,750
But his head wasn't shaven.

560
00:18:48,330 --> 00:18:49,870
So he was not in that prison.

561
00:18:50,030 --> 00:18:51,290
Here's the last one.

562
00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:52,210
Kristen Welk, NBC.

563
00:18:52,750 --> 00:18:53,590
Absolutely not.

564
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:56,530
They had no intention of letting me meet

565
00:18:56,530 --> 00:19:00,230
with Abrego Garcia until they felt the pressure.

566
00:19:00,550 --> 00:19:03,790
They felt the pressure from people saying, why

567
00:19:03,790 --> 00:19:06,990
are you, you know, complicit in this illegal

568
00:19:06,990 --> 00:19:07,450
scheme?

569
00:19:07,570 --> 00:19:09,830
Why are you denying his wife, his lawyer,

570
00:19:09,970 --> 00:19:11,610
anybody the opportunity to speak with him?

571
00:19:11,610 --> 00:19:13,770
So my mission was to be able to

572
00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:16,310
say that he is at least alive.

573
00:19:16,430 --> 00:19:17,590
That was his mission.

574
00:19:17,870 --> 00:19:18,630
A third mission.

575
00:19:19,310 --> 00:19:19,890
A third mission.

576
00:19:20,010 --> 00:19:20,490
The fourth.

577
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:21,210
That's the fourth.

578
00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:23,190
That's the fourth mission.

579
00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:25,210
He had a lot of missions, man.

580
00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:26,110
You're right.

581
00:19:26,490 --> 00:19:29,930
It's the lengths that both, you know, the

582
00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:32,810
El Salvadorian president, Bukele, and Donald Trump will

583
00:19:32,810 --> 00:19:36,070
go to to see people are boundless, right?

584
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:39,630
In this case, they did order the waiters,

585
00:19:39,790 --> 00:19:42,850
the government people, to bring these two glasses

586
00:19:42,850 --> 00:19:45,670
that, you know, appear to be margaritas.

587
00:19:45,810 --> 00:19:46,790
I have no idea.

588
00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:48,030
We didn't touch them.

589
00:19:48,430 --> 00:19:51,090
And they tried to manipulate it to make

590
00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:54,110
it look like Mr. Abrego Garcia's margarita had

591
00:19:54,110 --> 00:19:54,650
been drunk.

592
00:19:54,830 --> 00:19:56,270
In other words, the liquid was lower.

593
00:19:57,450 --> 00:19:58,990
But they screwed me.

594
00:19:59,890 --> 00:20:02,190
Hey, John, if you and I were going

595
00:20:02,190 --> 00:20:04,090
to try and make this look like paradise,

596
00:20:04,650 --> 00:20:07,130
I think we would have chosen some different

597
00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:07,770
tactics.

598
00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,510
Like I'd have girls in bikinis walking around.

599
00:20:11,890 --> 00:20:14,630
You know, we'd have party lights, party people,

600
00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:16,430
DJ thumping in the background.

601
00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:17,250
Exactly.

602
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:17,850
No, no.

603
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:19,890
No, those stupid El Salvadorians.

604
00:20:19,890 --> 00:20:22,110
We're going to put liquid in the glass.

605
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:23,970
Don't even know if it's salt or sugar.

606
00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:25,090
And we're going to make one a little

607
00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:26,710
lower so everyone will think that he's been

608
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:27,210
drinking it.

609
00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:28,830
Screwed up in their scheme.

610
00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:31,230
Because if you look at the rims of

611
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:32,650
the glasses, I don't know if it's salt

612
00:20:32,650 --> 00:20:33,230
or sugar.

613
00:20:33,370 --> 00:20:34,550
But there's no gap.

614
00:20:35,070 --> 00:20:38,390
Who puts sugar on their margarita?

615
00:20:39,670 --> 00:20:40,950
Is that a thing even?

616
00:20:43,150 --> 00:20:44,270
There are drinks.

617
00:20:44,730 --> 00:20:45,530
There are other drinks.

618
00:20:47,570 --> 00:20:49,310
The whole thing is a joke.

619
00:20:49,410 --> 00:20:50,130
Yeah, it is.

620
00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:52,730
Nine seconds.

621
00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:55,130
So nobody touched the margarita.

622
00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:55,510
Stop.

623
00:20:55,730 --> 00:20:57,730
The fact is that you're right.

624
00:20:58,010 --> 00:21:00,550
These morning shows, this is their story.

625
00:21:00,850 --> 00:21:03,870
We have a borderline bombing of Iran.

626
00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:07,330
We have the crisis where Netanyahu is getting

627
00:21:07,330 --> 00:21:08,810
shut down.

628
00:21:09,050 --> 00:21:11,150
We have all kinds of – we have

629
00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:13,690
the big protests over the weekend.

630
00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:15,310
We have all these things going on.

631
00:21:15,670 --> 00:21:17,290
And this publicity stunt.

632
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:18,470
Yes.

633
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:20,670
Because this guy is running for president, or

634
00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:21,470
he thinks he is.

635
00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:23,370
He doesn't have a prayer because he's a

636
00:21:23,370 --> 00:21:23,930
moron.

637
00:21:25,010 --> 00:21:27,750
Is the top of the news because obviously

638
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:29,130
somebody is coordinating this.

639
00:21:29,150 --> 00:21:31,410
And it's not any of the news directors.

640
00:21:32,790 --> 00:21:34,250
It's Chuck Schumer again.

641
00:21:36,370 --> 00:21:37,130
I don't know.

642
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:38,510
The whole thing is stupid.

643
00:21:38,510 --> 00:21:38,690
You know what?

644
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:41,790
First thing I thought was maybe the CIA

645
00:21:41,790 --> 00:21:42,210
or somebody.

646
00:21:42,410 --> 00:21:45,030
But once you mention Chuck Schumer, you're probably

647
00:21:45,030 --> 00:21:47,050
right because it's so lame.

648
00:21:47,550 --> 00:21:49,210
Yeah, that has to be a Schumerism.

649
00:21:50,270 --> 00:21:51,570
A Schumer scheme.

650
00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:53,730
It has to be.

651
00:21:53,850 --> 00:21:54,610
It's so dumb.

652
00:21:55,770 --> 00:21:58,190
And then, oh, they all do this.

653
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:59,270
Who cares?

654
00:21:59,650 --> 00:22:02,150
I mean, we do, of course, because it's

655
00:22:02,150 --> 00:22:02,990
just so stupid.

656
00:22:05,450 --> 00:22:06,850
I'm going to be talking to a high

657
00:22:06,850 --> 00:22:09,310
school in a couple of weeks, and they

658
00:22:09,310 --> 00:22:10,450
want me to come in and talk about

659
00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:11,090
propaganda.

660
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:12,350
Well, man.

661
00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:13,250
Wait, wait.

662
00:22:13,390 --> 00:22:14,590
Stop, stop, stop.

663
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:15,150
Yes.

664
00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:15,490
What?

665
00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:18,910
Yeah, this guy down the street, he teaches

666
00:22:18,910 --> 00:22:20,510
a class in media communications.

667
00:22:21,310 --> 00:22:24,990
It's an advanced placement class to, I guess,

668
00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:26,730
10th, 11th graders.

669
00:22:28,330 --> 00:22:29,910
And he wanted me to come in and

670
00:22:29,910 --> 00:22:30,850
talk about propaganda.

671
00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:31,830
I said, are you sure they're going to

672
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:32,710
be able to handle it?

673
00:22:33,550 --> 00:22:35,490
Because they're going to see stuff they've never

674
00:22:35,490 --> 00:22:37,990
seen before because they just never watch that

675
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:38,310
stuff.

676
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:42,090
You have to show this dumb stuff.

677
00:22:42,210 --> 00:22:44,870
And then the senators all saying the same

678
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:45,190
thing.

679
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:47,330
Basically, I'm going to come in, play a

680
00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:48,810
bunch of super cuts, say I'm the pod

681
00:22:48,810 --> 00:22:51,970
father, drop my mic, and I'm out.

682
00:22:52,510 --> 00:22:53,410
And that's what it's going to be.

683
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:54,930
And yell, go podcasting.

684
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:55,670
Go podcasting.

685
00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:58,530
He said, the kids are really excited.

686
00:22:58,930 --> 00:23:00,370
These kids don't know who I am.

687
00:23:00,790 --> 00:23:02,030
Well, they know what podcasting is.

688
00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:02,530
Kids are excited.

689
00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:04,970
Who's this old fart coming in here?

690
00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:06,370
No, no, he's not an old fart.

691
00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:07,310
No, he's a young guy.

692
00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:07,610
No, you.

693
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:11,670
Thank you.

694
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:14,610
Who's this boomer you brought in, Teach?

695
00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:14,750
Teach.

696
00:23:15,630 --> 00:23:16,410
Teach.

697
00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:21,270
Who's ever used that term in the last

698
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:22,290
50 years?

699
00:23:22,410 --> 00:23:22,750
Only a boomer.

700
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:24,010
Only a boomer.

701
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:25,010
Teach.

702
00:23:26,510 --> 00:23:28,170
Oh, man.

703
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:29,470
All right.

704
00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:35,330
So there is some very interesting news.

705
00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:37,130
And I'm going to play it in.

706
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:42,670
Before you go on with these clips, would

707
00:23:42,670 --> 00:23:45,290
anything interesting happen on the way back from

708
00:23:45,290 --> 00:23:45,770
Amsterdam?

709
00:23:45,970 --> 00:23:48,630
You usually have a story about going through

710
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:53,950
customs or some foul up or a last

711
00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:55,830
ditch thing that you saw when you left

712
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:58,110
and you didn't realize this was that bad

713
00:23:58,110 --> 00:23:58,890
over there.

714
00:23:59,150 --> 00:24:00,530
And how's your daughter doing?

715
00:24:00,930 --> 00:24:01,130
Okay.

716
00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:02,830
Well, thank you for asking.

717
00:24:02,930 --> 00:24:04,770
My daughter is doing very well.

718
00:24:05,470 --> 00:24:07,130
And so I told her, I'm going to

719
00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:07,970
see you on Friday.

720
00:24:08,290 --> 00:24:09,950
Let's go to a nice restaurant.

721
00:24:10,910 --> 00:24:13,190
Which turned out to be Japanese fusion.

722
00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:14,510
We had seven courses.

723
00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:16,270
It took four hours for them to serve

724
00:24:16,270 --> 00:24:16,710
this thing.

725
00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:17,990
That was a little long.

726
00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:21,030
But before that, she arranged for us to

727
00:24:21,030 --> 00:24:24,170
have a VR experience.

728
00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:30,230
And it's a franchise called Zero Latency.

729
00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:34,090
And imagine a Quonset hut in the middle

730
00:24:34,090 --> 00:24:35,950
of South Rotterdam.

731
00:24:36,890 --> 00:24:39,210
And so they've got a big room.

732
00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:41,150
And you have walls.

733
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:42,390
Quonset hut.

734
00:24:42,410 --> 00:24:43,710
It was a Quonset hut.

735
00:24:43,930 --> 00:24:45,410
But a pretty high ceiling.

736
00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:47,090
Quonset hut.

737
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:48,010
It was a Quonset hut.

738
00:24:48,110 --> 00:24:48,510
I'm telling you.

739
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:49,430
It was open on one side.

740
00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:52,950
And so you had this really big room.

741
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:56,870
And it has kind of a black floor

742
00:24:56,870 --> 00:25:03,030
and walls with some stripes on it.

743
00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:05,690
And so you play as a team.

744
00:25:05,850 --> 00:25:06,770
The three of us.

745
00:25:06,910 --> 00:25:08,170
You can do up to eight players.

746
00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:09,450
You get your VR goggles.

747
00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:10,370
You get your weapon.

748
00:25:11,250 --> 00:25:12,210
Who's the third?

749
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:13,630
Oh, her fiance.

750
00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:14,010
Kevin.

751
00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:15,090
Oh, okay.

752
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:15,390
Kevin.

753
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:16,930
We like Kevin.

754
00:25:17,670 --> 00:25:19,370
And so then you go in.

755
00:25:19,470 --> 00:25:21,010
And then it takes a second to sync

756
00:25:21,010 --> 00:25:21,270
up.

757
00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:25,170
And we did the zombie apocalypse VR experience.

758
00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:28,810
So you see each other.

759
00:25:29,030 --> 00:25:30,210
You all look, of course.

760
00:25:30,370 --> 00:25:31,530
You have an avatar.

761
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,190
It's photorealistic.

762
00:25:34,090 --> 00:25:36,130
It has very much like a Doom feeling

763
00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:36,550
to it.

764
00:25:36,550 --> 00:25:38,030
Only higher resolution.

765
00:25:38,790 --> 00:25:39,750
Do you remember the game Doom?

766
00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:42,110
Another Boomer reference, everybody.

767
00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:46,530
It was incredibly realistic.

768
00:25:47,930 --> 00:25:49,630
Is it more like Doom or more like

769
00:25:49,630 --> 00:25:50,390
Duke Nukem?

770
00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:52,250
Oh, much more like Duke Nukem.

771
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:53,530
I mean, it was an advance.

772
00:25:53,730 --> 00:25:57,170
But the, you know, it's basically first person

773
00:25:57,170 --> 00:25:59,310
shooter, except you got your team.

774
00:25:59,490 --> 00:26:00,670
You can switch guns.

775
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,110
You know, you see a gun.

776
00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:03,390
You walk over toward it.

777
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:04,530
You grab the gun.

778
00:26:04,610 --> 00:26:05,810
You got a plasma gun.

779
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:08,150
You can switch between, you know, grenades.

780
00:26:08,510 --> 00:26:10,090
And you get a gatling gun.

781
00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:12,790
Is there anything you're doing in the Quonset

782
00:26:12,790 --> 00:26:14,230
hut that you can't do at home?

783
00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:17,210
I got to tell you.

784
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:18,910
Well, it's big.

785
00:26:18,970 --> 00:26:19,830
You need the space.

786
00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:21,550
Because you're walking around, you know.

787
00:26:21,770 --> 00:26:22,950
You're actually walking around.

788
00:26:23,030 --> 00:26:23,410
Oh, yeah.

789
00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:24,090
You're walking.

790
00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:26,290
You move.

791
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:29,110
The thing that's kind of weird is, you

792
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:31,170
know, you want to walk up to the

793
00:26:31,170 --> 00:26:31,670
elevator.

794
00:26:31,950 --> 00:26:33,030
And it has a ramp.

795
00:26:33,090 --> 00:26:34,510
And, of course, if you actually try to

796
00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:35,670
walk up, like you're going to step on

797
00:26:35,670 --> 00:26:36,730
the ramp, you're going to fall on your

798
00:26:36,730 --> 00:26:37,070
face.

799
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:38,230
So you learn pretty quickly.

800
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:39,530
You just walk.

801
00:26:39,550 --> 00:26:41,210
And then the ramp kind of adjusts to

802
00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:41,450
you.

803
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:43,670
But it only took three minutes to get

804
00:26:43,670 --> 00:26:44,350
used to it.

805
00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:46,630
It was incredibly real.

806
00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:49,610
So real that, you know, the zombies are

807
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:50,230
coming at you.

808
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:51,850
And then you hear in the headphones, there's

809
00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:53,210
one gnawing at you behind you.

810
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:53,790
You turn around.

811
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:55,170
You blast him with the grenade.

812
00:26:55,390 --> 00:26:57,730
And I actually got a physical response to

813
00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:58,070
this.

814
00:26:59,190 --> 00:27:00,790
I was tired after 30 minutes.

815
00:27:00,930 --> 00:27:03,050
That was a tough day of fighting zombies.

816
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,010
Oh, God.

817
00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:07,310
And I thought, this will never fly for

818
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:08,270
anything but this.

819
00:27:08,590 --> 00:27:10,090
You can't live in this world.

820
00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:14,490
It's very disassociative.

821
00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:18,090
Wait, wait.

822
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,550
You said it won't fly for anything but

823
00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:20,990
this?

824
00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:21,890
Yeah, but games.

825
00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:22,690
Zombie fighting?

826
00:27:22,930 --> 00:27:23,850
Yeah, games, games.

827
00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:26,770
It won't work for touring Paris?

828
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:28,850
No, no, no, no, no.

829
00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:29,350
No.

830
00:27:30,790 --> 00:27:31,790
Of course not.

831
00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:32,870
No.

832
00:27:33,690 --> 00:27:35,230
So I can't go on a cruise down

833
00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:37,190
the canals in Venice?

834
00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:40,370
Yeah, but you won't get the wind in

835
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:40,910
your face.

836
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,110
You know, zombies is already kind of a

837
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:43,950
surreal experience.

838
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:45,490
You don't need to have anything else.

839
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:48,270
Okay, so what you're predicting is it's a

840
00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:48,750
dead end.

841
00:27:49,330 --> 00:27:50,050
It's a dead end.

842
00:27:50,270 --> 00:27:51,070
This is fun.

843
00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:52,390
I mean, it's a great.

844
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:53,570
It's a fun dead end.

845
00:27:53,690 --> 00:27:56,930
It's a fun, show title, fun dead end.

846
00:27:56,990 --> 00:27:58,610
Yeah, that's basically what that is.

847
00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:02,230
But to say that this would be like

848
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:03,690
the metaverse is going to be cool?

849
00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:04,990
No, no.

850
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:07,190
You can't do more than a half hour

851
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:07,830
of this stuff.

852
00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:09,690
And then you're just like, ah.

853
00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:11,810
And then the thing is heavy on your

854
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:12,190
head.

855
00:28:12,590 --> 00:28:15,870
But more importantly, I got a lot of

856
00:28:15,870 --> 00:28:18,430
emails from people about my report from the

857
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:20,070
last show when I was in Amsterdam.

858
00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:21,030
Yeah.

859
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:23,170
And it's interesting.

860
00:28:23,170 --> 00:28:25,590
I think I was pretty clear telling everybody

861
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:28,570
that I was amongst the media elites and

862
00:28:28,570 --> 00:28:31,070
that Taxi Eric, you know, he's the guy

863
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:32,070
that is saying, no, no, no.

864
00:28:32,170 --> 00:28:34,150
We think Trump should have a statue.

865
00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:37,210
Because I got a lot of similar emails

866
00:28:37,210 --> 00:28:39,910
saying, you need to get out of Amsterdam.

867
00:28:40,130 --> 00:28:41,350
It's not like that everywhere.

868
00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:45,830
We're all against this, the global elites.

869
00:28:45,910 --> 00:28:46,630
We love Trump.

870
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:50,570
I thought it was pretty clear what you

871
00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:50,870
said.

872
00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:54,530
You know, with a bunch of elitists that

873
00:28:54,530 --> 00:28:57,050
were completely off the rails, and Taxi Eric

874
00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:59,050
was a kind of foundational.

875
00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:02,590
And then connected to reality in some funny

876
00:29:02,590 --> 00:29:04,350
way, even though he almost got me killed.

877
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:07,410
Yeah, well, then, you know, that was, anyway.

878
00:29:11,710 --> 00:29:14,030
So, but what I get from everybody is

879
00:29:14,030 --> 00:29:15,070
the same thing.

880
00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:17,330
The people who listen to No Agenda, and

881
00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:19,170
I'm sure that, you know, there's other people

882
00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:20,330
who don't listen to No Agenda.

883
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:22,650
Other groups who are all in.

884
00:29:23,230 --> 00:29:26,170
But everybody is just talking amongst themselves.

885
00:29:26,350 --> 00:29:27,330
No one's doing anything.

886
00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:29,790
Not dissimilar to the United States.

887
00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:32,590
Until Trump stood up and said, hey, this

888
00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:33,770
nonsense is over.

889
00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:36,770
So, everybody thinks it's crazy, it's no good.

890
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:40,250
But meanwhile, even this new government, the new

891
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:42,150
cabinet just steamrolls over everybody.

892
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:43,710
They get the same old, same old.

893
00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:46,530
So, there's two emails I pulled out that

894
00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:47,070
I want to share.

895
00:29:47,630 --> 00:29:48,730
First one is from Nathan.

896
00:29:48,730 --> 00:29:51,610
He says, Adam, as you know, Amsterdam is

897
00:29:51,610 --> 00:29:52,330
extremely left.

898
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:53,710
Everyone is scared and angry.

899
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:55,790
In my class, this prevails as well.

900
00:29:55,870 --> 00:29:58,090
I'm in the second of the Cygnus Gymnasium.

901
00:29:58,570 --> 00:30:00,790
So, he's probably about 17.

902
00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:03,210
When I ask why they are angry, they

903
00:30:03,210 --> 00:30:04,670
say, Trump, Musk.

904
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:05,970
But they don't really know.

905
00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:08,550
They're afraid of Trump becoming a dictator.

906
00:30:09,010 --> 00:30:10,750
Usually their reason is that he is shutting

907
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:13,590
down all the institutions and putting pressure on

908
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:14,490
the legal system.

909
00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:16,150
Real facts or examples?

910
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:17,290
Well, they never have those.

911
00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:20,130
The most left voters also think a European

912
00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:21,390
army is a good idea.

913
00:30:22,670 --> 00:30:24,890
How it is regulated with taxation via your

914
00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:26,270
carbon footprint is perfect.

915
00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:29,870
These people will have to change themselves.

916
00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:31,950
Now they only vote for the left.

917
00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:34,130
With this, they think that their sins on

918
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:35,370
climate will be redeemed.

919
00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:37,610
Even people closer to me find it hard

920
00:30:37,610 --> 00:30:38,790
to keep thinking for themselves.

921
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:41,450
Family, who my father and I try to

922
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:44,550
explain as much, we can also panic.

923
00:30:44,550 --> 00:30:46,550
Of course, because they can only see the

924
00:30:46,550 --> 00:30:49,430
M5M, I find it increasingly difficult to restrain

925
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:49,850
myself.

926
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:51,790
And seeing people I love get so worked

927
00:30:51,790 --> 00:30:55,090
up and frightened, everything they try seems to

928
00:30:55,090 --> 00:30:55,450
succeed.

929
00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:57,190
That would be the crazy people.

930
00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:00,170
We as awakened people have to try and

931
00:31:00,170 --> 00:31:00,950
help in some way.

932
00:31:01,490 --> 00:31:03,310
Well, of course, this is exactly the problem.

933
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:04,390
No one is really helping.

934
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:07,250
But the one that really got me, because

935
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:08,230
this is universal.

936
00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:11,610
And I've adjusted my cultural trauma.

937
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:12,750
It's just like COVID.

938
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:17,090
Europe never got out of COVID.

939
00:31:17,270 --> 00:31:18,890
And to some degree, neither did the United

940
00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:19,270
States.

941
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:23,490
People who are still mad about things, who

942
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:26,070
hate Musk, hate Trump.

943
00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:28,110
They're the same people.

944
00:31:28,450 --> 00:31:29,490
It's the same argument.

945
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:31,710
Vax, no vax.

946
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:32,930
Lockdown, no lockdown.

947
00:31:33,150 --> 00:31:35,070
Social distancing, no social distancing.

948
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:36,090
Masks, no masks.

949
00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:38,570
It's the same.

950
00:31:39,130 --> 00:31:40,870
People never got out of it.

951
00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:43,290
So it's just a replacement.

952
00:31:45,310 --> 00:31:47,650
There's tons of masked people everywhere.

953
00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:51,130
So this came from Beth, and she is

954
00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:54,690
an expat in the U.K. And what's

955
00:31:54,690 --> 00:31:58,650
interesting is this is the degree to which

956
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,470
she has been assimilated into the system.

957
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:04,130
And she says, I'm a dual U.K.

958
00:32:04,730 --> 00:32:06,370
citizen, been in the U.K. for 15

959
00:32:06,370 --> 00:32:06,590
years.

960
00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:07,430
My husband is British.

961
00:32:07,850 --> 00:32:10,630
Honestly, I love the U.K. It's definitely

962
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:11,290
my home.

963
00:32:11,670 --> 00:32:14,010
And in spite of the growing dystopia, my

964
00:32:14,010 --> 00:32:16,370
situation is comfortable and good.

965
00:32:16,670 --> 00:32:17,530
Here's my report.

966
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:19,370
Now, remember, she likes it there.

967
00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:22,930
Her situation is comfortable and good.

968
00:32:23,950 --> 00:32:25,090
So she goes on.

969
00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:27,170
I saw the writing on the wall years

970
00:32:27,170 --> 00:32:29,470
ago and left social media entirely just to

971
00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:29,930
be safe.

972
00:32:30,190 --> 00:32:32,530
I'm a major TERF, and I knew my

973
00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:34,670
views would get me in trouble if I

974
00:32:34,670 --> 00:32:35,130
didn't.

975
00:32:35,650 --> 00:32:38,310
I have a skilled but blue-collar job,

976
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:40,470
and basically everyone on the factory floor would

977
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:42,070
agree with the no-agenda perspective.

978
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:45,130
A few are fans of Trump, others conservative,

979
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:46,630
but hate his style.

980
00:32:47,310 --> 00:32:48,190
I voted for— Okay, let's stop.

981
00:32:48,350 --> 00:32:49,870
I want to make sure that everyone out

982
00:32:49,870 --> 00:32:51,970
there knows that TERF, we haven't used that

983
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:56,770
term for a while, trans-exclusionary radical feminist.

984
00:32:57,170 --> 00:32:57,390
Yeah.

985
00:32:58,670 --> 00:32:59,850
No trans women.

986
00:33:00,430 --> 00:33:02,130
I think everyone knows what TERF is.

987
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:02,490
But okay.

988
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:03,410
I don't know.

989
00:33:03,410 --> 00:33:04,030
No, I'm this good.

990
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:06,970
I voted for Bobby the Op because I'm

991
00:33:06,970 --> 00:33:07,410
a coward.

992
00:33:07,910 --> 00:33:10,250
And this way, when I'm with someone with

993
00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:12,550
TDS—you could also say you're a libertarian.

994
00:33:12,790 --> 00:33:13,370
I'm a coward.

995
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:15,590
This way, when I'm with someone with TDS,

996
00:33:15,710 --> 00:33:17,490
I can say things like, well, I never

997
00:33:17,490 --> 00:33:19,830
voted for him, but surely such and such

998
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:21,690
policy might actually turn out to be good.

999
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:24,910
Remember, she's comfortable and loves her life.

1000
00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:26,770
Management is another story.

1001
00:33:27,210 --> 00:33:29,250
My boss thought Trump created NAFTA.

1002
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:31,170
And he's a big racist, of course.

1003
00:33:31,170 --> 00:33:33,730
I get a lot of comments from educated

1004
00:33:33,730 --> 00:33:35,910
people who assume that I also have Trump

1005
00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:37,930
derangement syndrome, which I do not.

1006
00:33:38,670 --> 00:33:41,050
Another thing I've heard multiple British people say

1007
00:33:41,050 --> 00:33:43,350
is that they thought we were supposed to

1008
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:43,950
help others.

1009
00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:46,610
But Trump only cares about himself and how

1010
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:49,350
they had to explain this to their children.

1011
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:52,450
I live in Oxfordshire and work in an

1012
00:33:52,450 --> 00:33:54,530
affluent village but live in a very average

1013
00:33:54,530 --> 00:33:54,850
town.

1014
00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:56,810
Nobody has stopped driving their Teslas.

1015
00:33:57,270 --> 00:33:59,550
Our friend group, bless them, are quite intelligent.

1016
00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:01,530
People who haven't got a clue about U

1017
00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:02,190
.S. politics.

1018
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:04,550
One friend is still obsessed with Trump being

1019
00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:06,550
a Russian asset and mentions it a lot.

1020
00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:09,290
Another friend thought that abolishing the Department of

1021
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:11,290
Education meant no more public schools in the

1022
00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:11,850
whole country.

1023
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:17,150
They seem to get most of their ideas

1024
00:34:17,150 --> 00:34:18,370
about America from Reddit.

1025
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:22,429
Of course, they still believe in safe and

1026
00:34:22,429 --> 00:34:22,810
effective.

1027
00:34:23,290 --> 00:34:25,730
As for free speech arrests, they are both

1028
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:26,989
ignorant and dismissive.

1029
00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:28,469
It's not happening.

1030
00:34:28,469 --> 00:34:30,670
And even if it was, then people must

1031
00:34:30,670 --> 00:34:31,429
have deserved it.

1032
00:34:31,810 --> 00:34:32,850
Seems to be the opinion.

1033
00:34:33,210 --> 00:34:33,810
Pretty grim.

1034
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:35,710
The elder generation is split.

1035
00:34:35,830 --> 00:34:37,510
My husband's aunt, who is a lovely woman,

1036
00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:39,590
is terrified by what she views as a

1037
00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,030
rejection of the mechanisms which brought peace to

1038
00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:42,810
post-war Europe.

1039
00:34:43,210 --> 00:34:44,670
Trump mates are sick to her stomach.

1040
00:34:45,469 --> 00:34:47,550
My lovely work mom in the second half

1041
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:49,770
of her 70s also hates Trump but is

1042
00:34:49,770 --> 00:34:51,590
disgusted by the way the country is going.

1043
00:34:51,710 --> 00:34:54,190
Namely, she doesn't feel safe in Reddingtown anymore

1044
00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:57,470
due to dodgy Turkish barbers popping up everywhere

1045
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:59,990
and loads of men just hanging around.

1046
00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:01,590
Her daughter lives in Dover.

1047
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:03,450
She tells me all the time how many

1048
00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:05,710
boats of illegal migrants come in every week.

1049
00:35:05,790 --> 00:35:07,330
We all know we aren't allowed to talk

1050
00:35:07,330 --> 00:35:08,150
about this stuff.

1051
00:35:08,650 --> 00:35:09,910
My own town is very average.

1052
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:12,370
On Saturday, you'll see families and people of

1053
00:35:12,370 --> 00:35:13,910
all walks of life in the open-air

1054
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:14,990
shopping center area.

1055
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:17,050
But recently, I was in town on a

1056
00:35:17,050 --> 00:35:17,710
Friday afternoon.

1057
00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:18,830
It was a different vibe.

1058
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:21,150
Loads of men just hanging around.

1059
00:35:21,850 --> 00:35:24,090
My hairdresser told me about men harassing her

1060
00:35:24,090 --> 00:35:25,890
young apprentices, 16 years old.

1061
00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:27,130
I hate this vibe.

1062
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:30,490
Thanks for a great show, says Beth, who

1063
00:35:30,490 --> 00:35:32,090
I will remind you started off by saying,

1064
00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:33,230
I love the UK.

1065
00:35:33,970 --> 00:35:36,050
My life is comfortable and good.

1066
00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:39,590
Beth, you need to reassess your life.

1067
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:42,390
This is not comfortable and good.

1068
00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:44,490
This is the lobster getting boiled in the

1069
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:44,810
pot.

1070
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:46,590
That's exactly right.

1071
00:35:46,890 --> 00:35:49,410
Yes, this is the slow, where you put

1072
00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:50,970
it in and you turn the heat up.

1073
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,530
I realize, just look at all this nonsense

1074
00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:57,230
of people arguing.

1075
00:35:57,470 --> 00:35:59,070
You sent me a video this morning of

1076
00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:03,190
Liberty Lockdown podcast, of people arguing about Douglas

1077
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:07,330
Murray and Dave Smith and Joe Rogan and

1078
00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:07,830
Ian.

1079
00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:09,570
What's his name?

1080
00:36:10,090 --> 00:36:11,810
I don't even know half of these people.

1081
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:16,890
I'm like, I am so happy.

1082
00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:19,810
I'm really happy that we do the Noah

1083
00:36:19,810 --> 00:36:23,630
Jenner Show under the constraints we have self

1084
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:26,830
-imposed on ourselves as it comes to expansion,

1085
00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:28,430
growth, and finances.

1086
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:32,090
Because we are the only ones who just

1087
00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:35,830
have, there's no reason for us to say

1088
00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:37,850
anything but exactly what we feel.

1089
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:40,770
I think everyone else's audience captured.

1090
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:44,190
I think there's a huge fear of being

1091
00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:45,950
deplatformed by the group.

1092
00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:47,110
Not by government.

1093
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:49,210
Whatever this group is.

1094
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:50,270
By the group, yes.

1095
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:51,870
We've talked about this before.

1096
00:36:52,350 --> 00:36:54,910
That's why I put the word internecine in

1097
00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:55,110
there.

1098
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:56,590
Yes, I even put that in the show

1099
00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:58,970
notes so people can, let me see, I

1100
00:36:58,970 --> 00:37:00,170
wrote it down here.

1101
00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:03,170
Internecine, I-N-T-E-R-N-E

1102
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:08,030
-C-I-N-E, relating to or involving

1103
00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:15,700
conflict within a group, it comes from fought

1104
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:16,360
to the death.

1105
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,480
Anyway, there is a real problem going on

1106
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:23,960
everywhere.

1107
00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:28,380
And the United States is not immune to

1108
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:28,600
it.

1109
00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:32,760
And I really, truly think that this is

1110
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,100
still COVID trauma.

1111
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,400
That people just want to fight with each

1112
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,460
other about something.

1113
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Because we're still all mad.

1114
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,760
We're all still, you and I aren't.

1115
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,960
But we're mad.

1116
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,620
We're hurt.

1117
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:43,320
We're angry.

1118
00:37:43,580 --> 00:37:45,460
We feel discriminated.

1119
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:48,260
We feel, you know, it doesn't matter what

1120
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:49,060
side you're on.

1121
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:52,840
And President Trump just triggers it all time

1122
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,440
and time again.

1123
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,980
He's very good at it.

1124
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,860
And I think that he probably egged on

1125
00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:01,480
this whole 420 martial law thing just to

1126
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,940
get people crazy.

1127
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:05,960
He still seems to kind of be doing

1128
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,560
that stuff.

1129
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:09,660
You know, there is a phenomenon.

1130
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:12,580
This just came to mind.

1131
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,600
Bill Ziff, one of the first and early

1132
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,780
billionaires I ever knew, ran to Davis.

1133
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:21,140
How many do you know these days?

1134
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,240
How many do you hang out with?

1135
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:23,920
I don't hang out with any.

1136
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:25,500
Well, I hang out with one.

1137
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,160
But it's beside the point.

1138
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,540
But Ziff, I used to hang out with

1139
00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:29,560
Ziff a little bit.

1140
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:31,900
But the thing about him is that he

1141
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:35,000
was always saying one thing and doing another

1142
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,640
in certain kinds of funny ways.

1143
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,020
And somebody who really knew him well and

1144
00:38:39,020 --> 00:38:41,500
worked for him forever during the early days

1145
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:45,140
of his publishing empire, he says that Ziff

1146
00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:50,240
had this sick way of matching people up

1147
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,640
and putting people together that he knew would

1148
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,560
cause a conflict.

1149
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:57,740
And he believed that Ziff thought it was

1150
00:38:57,740 --> 00:38:58,300
fun.

1151
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,580
It was like he was like just amused

1152
00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:02,100
himself.

1153
00:39:02,220 --> 00:39:03,920
It's like the king is, let's put these

1154
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,640
two people together and see what happens.

1155
00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:10,040
And it was, I think, from this extreme

1156
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,020
amount of wealth he had.

1157
00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:12,040
He was one of the richest men in

1158
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,100
the world at the time.

1159
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,960
And he developed this screwball way of looking

1160
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,420
at things and the screwball way of acting.

1161
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:24,440
It worked out, except for the people that

1162
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,200
were placed in these situations where they'd always

1163
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:28,840
get in trouble.

1164
00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:32,020
And maybe Trump has got – maybe it's

1165
00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:33,080
something to do with the wealth.

1166
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,580
He's really the only true billionaire.

1167
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:37,100
Oh, you think it's a billionaire thing?

1168
00:39:37,820 --> 00:39:40,120
I'm beginning to think it might be something

1169
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,560
because Trump is the only true billionaire.

1170
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Vanderbilt was never president of the United States

1171
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,860
and other super rich people never got that

1172
00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:49,440
far because they never bothered.

1173
00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:51,740
Too much work.

1174
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:54,400
I can make a mess back here by

1175
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,180
signing checks.

1176
00:39:56,100 --> 00:40:00,820
But this idea of just doing little things

1177
00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:03,340
and moving things around like a chess game

1178
00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:05,180
and seeing what happens.

1179
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,920
Just see what happens.

1180
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Well, let's see what happens.

1181
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,440
I know these two people don't get along.

1182
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,240
I wonder if Joe works for Jim if

1183
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:12,680
that would be really funny.

1184
00:40:12,860 --> 00:40:14,880
Oh, wait, what about if Jim worked for

1185
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,140
Joe?

1186
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,180
That would be even funnier.

1187
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:17,180
There's a movement around.

1188
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,100
I just get this sense that something like

1189
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,880
that might be going on by the basis

1190
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,720
of what you just said, which might be

1191
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:25,020
true.

1192
00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:27,720
Trump is triggering this, and he's doing it

1193
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,660
in some conscious way on purpose.

1194
00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:33,840
Well, let's look at the next item here

1195
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,480
on the agenda, which is clearly an art

1196
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,380
of the deal move.

1197
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,860
But we have to go back to three

1198
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:43,700
days ago when it looked like we had

1199
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:44,460
something on the table.

1200
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:45,220
We had papers.

1201
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,920
We were signing.

1202
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:48,740
After months of delays, a minerals deal is

1203
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:49,980
closer than ever.

1204
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560
On Thursday, Ukraine said talks with the U

1205
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,180
.S. delivered good results.

1206
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,300
Just hours later, the two sides signed a

1207
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:59,300
so-called memorandum of intent.

1208
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,260
I love this.

1209
00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:04,240
A memorandum of intent is, I would say,

1210
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:05,420
completely worthless.

1211
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:07,240
Yeah, I agree.

1212
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,340
A memorandum of intent is the way to

1213
00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:13,660
kind of put the negotiations on hold because

1214
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:14,620
you're going nowhere.

1215
00:41:14,780 --> 00:41:17,020
I'm going to write a memo that we

1216
00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:19,700
intend to, I don't know, continue.

1217
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:22,300
Or the final agreement.

1218
00:41:22,660 --> 00:41:24,420
The deal would give the U.S. access

1219
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:27,560
to Ukraine's mineral wealth in return for billions

1220
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,600
in military aid.

1221
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,280
Ukraine, for its part, wants strong security guarantees.

1222
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,960
It sounds like they came up with exactly

1223
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,100
the same deal.

1224
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Yeah, we'll protect our interests with some military

1225
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,500
stuff.

1226
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,680
And then Ukraine is yammering again.

1227
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,540
But the process has been shaky.

1228
00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:49,480
A February signing fell through under chaotic circumstances.

1229
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,900
Since then, Ukraine said that the terms have

1230
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:54,100
constantly changed.

1231
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:56,860
Media reports said the U.S. now has

1232
00:41:56,860 --> 00:42:00,720
changed repayment demands from $300 billion to $100

1233
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:01,360
billion.

1234
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,420
Hey, listen, Volodymyr, listen, listen, listen.

1235
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:09,080
We're going to give you 60% discount.

1236
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:10,440
All right?

1237
00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:11,020
Discount.

1238
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:13,300
We go from $300 billion to $100 billion.

1239
00:42:13,420 --> 00:42:14,860
What are you yammering about, man?

1240
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:18,900
Meanwhile, the Trump administration continued to face accusations

1241
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:22,660
of echoing Putin, creating unease among Ukraine officials.

1242
00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:25,680
Just days ago, the U.S. envoy Steve

1243
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,280
Whitkoff conveyed Moscow's proposal for a peace in

1244
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,820
exchange for five Ukrainian regions.

1245
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,720
I believe that Mr. Whitkoff has taken on

1246
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,500
the strategy of the Russian side.

1247
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:38,160
I think it is very dangerous.

1248
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Ukraine said it will not discuss territorial agreements

1249
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,640
before a ceasefire, a choice they want under

1250
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,400
U.S. security guarantees.

1251
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,860
But so far, it's not clear how the

1252
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:54,820
minerals deal would ensure Ukraine's security.

1253
00:42:55,180 --> 00:42:57,080
So I think they just redlined the original

1254
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,800
agreement and scratched out $300 billion, said $100

1255
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,260
billion.

1256
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,440
OK, that's our final, final offer.

1257
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:04,580
And before we get to the next round,

1258
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:07,880
we have a little rest, a little pause.

1259
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,140
It is Easter after all.

1260
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:09,760
He has risen.

1261
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,940
Tonight, in a surprise announcement, Vladimir Putin says

1262
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:16,620
he's ordering a 30-hour Easter truce in

1263
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:17,600
the war in Ukraine.

1264
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,760
The brief ceasefire coming one day after President

1265
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Trump warned the U.S. will walk away

1266
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,200
from stalled peace negotiations if there isn't progress

1267
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,640
soon.

1268
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,940
We're going to just take a pass, but

1269
00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:31,280
hopefully we won't have to do that.

1270
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,760
President Zelensky tonight saying there's no trust in

1271
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,520
words coming from Moscow, but that Ukraine is

1272
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,640
open to U.S. proposals for a 30

1273
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,560
-day ceasefire.

1274
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Another ceasefire.

1275
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,820
So he's rolling everything back, going back to

1276
00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:47,860
a 30-day ceasefire, and then, of course,

1277
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,660
we get the report that everybody has been

1278
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:53,380
talking about, is where we're really at.

1279
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:54,700
I think we're at the end of our

1280
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:55,180
rope, people.

1281
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,720
He's been pressing both Moscow and Kiev for

1282
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:00,060
a truce, but so far Donald Trump has

1283
00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:01,960
failed in his bid to secure a ceasefire

1284
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,080
in the Ukraine war.

1285
00:44:03,460 --> 00:44:05,940
On Friday, the U.S. president reiterated that

1286
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:08,260
he wanted to clinch a deal quickly, but

1287
00:44:08,260 --> 00:44:10,100
said that the U.S. could ditch brokering

1288
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:12,700
further talks unless progress is made soon.

1289
00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:16,320
No specific number of days, but quickly.

1290
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,360
We want to get it done.

1291
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:20,940
If for some reason one of the two

1292
00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:24,680
parties makes it very difficult, we're just going

1293
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,060
to say you're foolish, you're fools, you're horrible

1294
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:29,380
people, and we're going to just take a

1295
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:32,140
pass, but hopefully we won't have to do

1296
00:44:32,140 --> 00:44:32,380
that.

1297
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:33,680
I like this take a pass.

1298
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:35,020
That's how you talk about any deal.

1299
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:39,200
I'm glad you got the take a pass

1300
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,500
thing.

1301
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,480
You keep saying it.

1302
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,660
Play this clip.

1303
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,040
This is Ukraine, Trump, and Rubio, and this

1304
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,760
is from PBS, and I think that they're

1305
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,380
trying to give us a different perspective than

1306
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:51,940
reality here.

1307
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,660
The latest on the international effort to secure

1308
00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:56,900
a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.

1309
00:44:57,380 --> 00:45:00,060
As those negotiations have stalled, there is a

1310
00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:02,140
new ultimatum from the Trump administration.

1311
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,440
Earlier today, U.S. Secretary of State Marco

1312
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,380
Rubio wrapped up a marathon series of talks

1313
00:45:08,380 --> 00:45:11,900
in Paris with both Ukrainian and top European

1314
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:12,500
officials.

1315
00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:15,420
Rubio, on his way out, said the U

1316
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:18,280
.S. may, quote, move on from trying to

1317
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,100
broker a peace deal if progress isn't made

1318
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:21,660
soon.

1319
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:23,840
We're not going to continue with this endeavor

1320
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,320
for weeks and months on end.

1321
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,520
So we need to determine very quickly now,

1322
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,060
and I'm talking about a matter of days,

1323
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,900
whether or not this is doable over the

1324
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:33,020
next few weeks.

1325
00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:34,460
If it is, we're in.

1326
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,800
If it's not, then we have other priorities

1327
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,840
to focus on as well.

1328
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:42,660
In Washington, President Trump echoed that warning, but

1329
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:44,980
stopped short of saying he's ready to walk

1330
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:45,340
away.

1331
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,480
He pushed back against the suggestion that Russia

1332
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,580
is taking advantage of his patience.

1333
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,800
I know when people are playing us, and

1334
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,300
I know when they're not, and I have

1335
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:57,420
to see an enthusiasm to want to end

1336
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:57,660
it.

1337
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,580
And I think I see that enthusiasm.

1338
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,700
I think I see it from both sides.

1339
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,240
But you're going to know soon.

1340
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:09,800
No, nobody's playing me.

1341
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,600
I'm trying to help.

1342
00:46:11,740 --> 00:46:14,220
All of this unfolded as the war grinds

1343
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:14,540
on.

1344
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:17,480
Russian missiles today rained down on the Ukrainian

1345
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,780
city of Kharkiv.

1346
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,760
Officials say one person was killed and nearly

1347
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,280
100 others were wounded.

1348
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:24,600
All right, what's your take?

1349
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,840
Well, they make it sound as though Rubio

1350
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,380
and Trump are differing opinions of things, and

1351
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:33,200
it's a conflict.

1352
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:33,780
Oh, really?

1353
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,500
I didn't get that at all.

1354
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:40,160
I thought, well, there's been, I've been listening

1355
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,260
to a lot of these NPR, PBS things,

1356
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:45,900
and they've been trying to promote that idea,

1357
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,300
and I think it was kind of promoted

1358
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:47,760
in there.

1359
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,020
But I don't see it, because Trump's saying,

1360
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,820
you know, we're out of here.

1361
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,300
Sounds pretty much what Rubio says.

1362
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,780
I have my favorite Canadian, Andrew Rosoulis, with

1363
00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:02,020
his analysis.

1364
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:03,840
And I've played him before.

1365
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,280
Andrew Rosoulis, he's a former war guy in

1366
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:07,580
Canada.

1367
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,680
Now he's a consultant.

1368
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,080
He's a war guy.

1369
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,060
He knows war.

1370
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,040
You like him.

1371
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,960
When you hear him, you'll remember.

1372
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:16,220
What do you make of the news that

1373
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:17,800
the U.S. may walk away from the

1374
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,300
peace talks if it's not possible to imminently

1375
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:23,040
or quickly end the war in Ukraine?

1376
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,340
It's a very important development, but we have

1377
00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:26,600
to put it in context.

1378
00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:27,940
What happened Thursday?

1379
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,080
Rubio, on his way out to the airport,

1380
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:33,080
said, after having that meeting in Paris, which

1381
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,700
included the Americans, the Europeans and the Ukrainians,

1382
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,460
and he said, you know, if we're not

1383
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:40,520
going to get a deal soon, we're walking

1384
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,940
away.

1385
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,240
So why did he say that?

1386
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,460
Well, at that meeting, Vitkov, who was on

1387
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:49,760
the American delegation, and he's Trump's point person

1388
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,280
on this, basically went to Russia, went to

1389
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,460
or talked to Ukrainians, talked to Europeans, and

1390
00:47:55,460 --> 00:47:58,580
put together what he believes is the best

1391
00:47:58,580 --> 00:48:01,860
possible deal for a ceasefire, a comprehensive ceasefire.

1392
00:48:02,020 --> 00:48:03,460
And it includes the following.

1393
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:06,300
One, the Russians keep all the territory they

1394
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:07,620
currently hold militarily.

1395
00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:10,520
Two, the Ukrainians do not get NATO.

1396
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,780
Three, there are sanctions relief put in place

1397
00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:17,100
for Russia, but Ukraine remains sovereign.

1398
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,980
So there was a lot of pushback from

1399
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:22,620
the Ukrainians and the Europeans to this plan,

1400
00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:25,040
saying that it caters too much to the

1401
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,320
Russians.

1402
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,340
The American position is it reflects battlefield reality.

1403
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,800
And that's where we're at.

1404
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,340
Yeah, they don't want that.

1405
00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:34,940
The Europeans want war.

1406
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,020
They don't want to stop.

1407
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,280
They're all in on this.

1408
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,960
The way I see it, and the Canadians

1409
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,120
and the Australians.

1410
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,320
So what happens if the U.S. walks?

1411
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:48,060
Donald Trump said that ending this war would

1412
00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:51,040
be the feather in his cap when it

1413
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,260
comes to foreign policy.

1414
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,840
Did he actually say that?

1415
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,640
Hey, this will be the feather in my

1416
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:56,800
cap?

1417
00:48:57,180 --> 00:48:58,580
I don't think so.

1418
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,440
A feat that he wanted to accomplish.

1419
00:49:00,660 --> 00:49:02,220
If he is out and he's negotiating...

1420
00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:03,900
No, he promised he would end it within

1421
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:04,660
24 hours.

1422
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:05,780
That's what he actually said.

1423
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:07,740
But he was being ironic.

1424
00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:08,640
Day one.

1425
00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:09,400
Yeah, day one.

1426
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,200
What does this mean?

1427
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Let me just say there's a meeting in

1428
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,020
London next week with the same people, same

1429
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:15,520
parties.

1430
00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:17,180
We will see what happens there.

1431
00:49:17,260 --> 00:49:18,440
It's the last ditch.

1432
00:49:18,820 --> 00:49:22,140
And April 30th is 100 days anniversary of

1433
00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:24,100
the America of Trump's presidency.

1434
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,840
We still have that time, I believe, to

1435
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,120
secure a deal.

1436
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,900
So having said that, assuming there's no deal,

1437
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:33,760
to answer your question, it would certainly favor

1438
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,360
the Russians.

1439
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,320
The Ukrainians would have to rely solely on

1440
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,420
the Europeans in Canada, to what degree in

1441
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:39,860
Australia.

1442
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,840
But basically, they could not get the Patriot

1443
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,640
missile systems.

1444
00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:45,840
They could not get the intelligence required.

1445
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:49,440
Russia would increase the momentum it has already

1446
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,540
on the battlefield, which is just to their

1447
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:51,880
advantage.

1448
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,000
They would increase it even furthermore.

1449
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,100
And basically, the Ukrainians would be left with

1450
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:59,960
the Europeans and Canadians to sort it out

1451
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:00,460
themselves.

1452
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:01,720
Not a very good position.

1453
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,540
And then, of course, can the EU, can

1454
00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:08,000
Europe and Canada and Australia, can they fill

1455
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,840
the gap left by those turncoat Americans?

1456
00:50:11,140 --> 00:50:11,940
Is this enough?

1457
00:50:12,260 --> 00:50:16,060
Canadians, Europeans, some other international allies, can they

1458
00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:18,400
fill that void if the U.S. steps

1459
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,120
away in terms of that key military support?

1460
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,100
No, they cannot.

1461
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:25,240
They can sustain the Ukrainians in a defensive

1462
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,980
mode for a while, while the Ukrainians try

1463
00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:30,500
to wear down the Russians and secure a

1464
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:32,220
better deal than they're getting now.

1465
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,490
That is not a highly likely outcome.

1466
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:38,680
Because also, I repeat, the Americans have the

1467
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Patriot missile systems, nobody else has them, and

1468
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,300
the Ukrainians need them for air defense.

1469
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:45,180
And two, it's the intelligence.

1470
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,280
Americans provide Ukrainians with targeting information that only

1471
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,540
the Americans can provide.

1472
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,700
So finally then, what was really needed has

1473
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:55,640
already happened.

1474
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:01,920
The global stage has already changed, seemingly irreversibly,

1475
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,140
and back to the old ways of the

1476
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:05,640
old days, of the boomer days.

1477
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,720
What is the biggest geopolitical concern about Russia

1478
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,780
and some of its allies, like China, like

1479
00:51:10,780 --> 00:51:13,100
North Korea, now that U.S. has assumed

1480
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,020
this position?

1481
00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:17,000
Well, we're very clearly beyond the liberal rules

1482
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,740
-based order of 1991 or 1945.

1483
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,740
Pick your year.

1484
00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:23,460
We are back to a much more traditional

1485
00:51:23,460 --> 00:51:27,940
realpolitik, power politics international system, in which the

1486
00:51:27,940 --> 00:51:31,460
great powers compete against each other, sometimes politically,

1487
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,740
economically, and militarily, when things come to that

1488
00:51:34,740 --> 00:51:35,040
point.

1489
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:37,860
It's all a question of equilibrium and balance

1490
00:51:37,860 --> 00:51:38,440
of power.

1491
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,220
And basically, the big boys set the stage,

1492
00:51:41,380 --> 00:51:44,100
and the smaller, weaker powers have to adjust

1493
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:44,880
to that reality.

1494
00:51:45,180 --> 00:51:47,320
That, I'm afraid, is the new reality that

1495
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,060
we're going into.

1496
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:49,960
That's it?

1497
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:51,700
I think that's it.

1498
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:53,640
Well, I have a different take on this,

1499
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,900
what could possibly happen if they don't go

1500
00:51:56,900 --> 00:51:57,780
along with Trump.

1501
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,740
Which they should, and get this over with,

1502
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,860
but they just seem reluctant, like you say.

1503
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:08,120
Europeans can do more than just be defensive.

1504
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:11,600
They can put their boots on the ground

1505
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,520
in Ukraine.

1506
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:15,380
They want to form an army anyway.

1507
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:17,240
Let's put some German and French.

1508
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,420
The French have been promising troops.

1509
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:23,680
Macron, you know, and his wife.

1510
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:28,820
Well put.

1511
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,580
Put the French troops in there, and then

1512
00:52:31,580 --> 00:52:33,180
the Germans can put their troops in there.

1513
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:35,760
Everyone can just load up, and so the

1514
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Ukrainians can have some backup, and then they

1515
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,760
can drag this thing on for everybody.

1516
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,760
And how do you think that's going to

1517
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,500
work out when you get dead German, French,

1518
00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:46,200
and British kids coming home in body bags?

1519
00:52:46,860 --> 00:52:48,320
How's that going to work out in Europe?

1520
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,740
That's going to be...

1521
00:52:50,740 --> 00:52:52,960
They're going to twist it in such a

1522
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,500
way that, look at what these Russians have

1523
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:55,620
been doing to our kids.

1524
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,160
They're going to do what they always do.

1525
00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:00,660
They make it look like, oh, this is

1526
00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:00,980
terrible.

1527
00:53:01,340 --> 00:53:03,720
Now we need revenge for the dead kids.

1528
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,920
It's doable.

1529
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,160
They want to do it.

1530
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,160
Is that a better outcome?

1531
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,340
No, it's not a better outcome.

1532
00:53:13,340 --> 00:53:15,420
It's going to be a disaster, but that's

1533
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:16,660
what they want to do, and there's nothing

1534
00:53:16,660 --> 00:53:17,200
to stop them.

1535
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,900
That's what I said.

1536
00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:18,780
They want war.

1537
00:53:19,140 --> 00:53:20,120
We're saying the same thing.

1538
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,820
Yeah, you said that as the premise, and

1539
00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:23,800
I'm just saying here's how it's going to

1540
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,120
happen.

1541
00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:25,960
Oh, I sure hope not.

1542
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:29,420
Well, if they don't go along with Trump,

1543
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,900
that's exactly where it's headed.

1544
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,840
There's no other way.

1545
00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:33,980
Well, maybe...

1546
00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:36,300
Because if you're telling me you're over there,

1547
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,400
or were, and everyone's thinking the Russians are

1548
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,180
going to march in and take over all

1549
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:42,700
of Europe any minute now, we've got to

1550
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:44,160
stop them somewhere, we've got to go to

1551
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,880
Ukraine to do it, to listen to our

1552
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,440
boys there.

1553
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,940
People are putting go bags together, man, with

1554
00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:49,260
Band-Aids.

1555
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,800
Yes, go bags.

1556
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,460
With matches and Band-Aids.

1557
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,500
That'll do the trick.

1558
00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:58,980
And long-wave radio receivers so they can

1559
00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:00,760
get the BBC World Service.

1560
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:03,780
It's pathetic.

1561
00:54:04,340 --> 00:54:06,720
It's so crazy that people can't see what

1562
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,660
is going on, how stupid this whole thing

1563
00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:11,880
is, and they've bought it hook, line, and

1564
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,660
sinker.

1565
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:14,800
They really have.

1566
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:16,840
In general, the majority.

1567
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:18,720
Not the no-agenda people.

1568
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,880
They're saying, they're going, this is bullcrap, but

1569
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,600
meanwhile, suit up!

1570
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:25,160
No?

1571
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:31,980
I really, I felt very poorly most of

1572
00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:32,760
the time in Europe.

1573
00:54:33,260 --> 00:54:33,760
I did.

1574
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,060
Felt poorly.

1575
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:35,680
I felt poorly.

1576
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,940
People, you can tell the people, again, whenever

1577
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:39,400
I...

1578
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,860
Top it off, they gave you a cold.

1579
00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:42,960
COVID, they gave me COVID, man.

1580
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,880
It's just like, don't you see that you've

1581
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,500
got to stop this nonsense?

1582
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:53,620
And they're still pushing climate change and the

1583
00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:58,940
digital ID and more taxes and federal tax.

1584
00:54:59,080 --> 00:54:59,960
Carbon taxes.

1585
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Yes, carbon taxes.

1586
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,660
Don't ever leave that out of the picture.

1587
00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:04,460
Climate change taxes.

1588
00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:07,160
It's just more and more and more and

1589
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,420
more.

1590
00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:08,920
In fact, what was I reading?

1591
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,940
This was a good one.

1592
00:55:11,460 --> 00:55:13,400
Big, where did this come from?

1593
00:55:13,460 --> 00:55:14,180
Some university.

1594
00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:17,440
That man's best friend may be nature's worst

1595
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:17,880
enemy.

1596
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,780
Study on pet dog fines.

1597
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,680
So dogs apparently are the worst thing for

1598
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:24,920
climate.

1599
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,540
Oh yes, this has been going, this has

1600
00:55:26,540 --> 00:55:28,720
been for a few weeks now, this anti

1601
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:32,500
-dog thing, which I think is actually Muslim

1602
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:32,960
-based.

1603
00:55:33,340 --> 00:55:35,840
No, I think it's tax-based, because people

1604
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,880
are sending me these articles.

1605
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,740
Tax dogs?

1606
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:39,620
Yes, you have to pay a dog tax,

1607
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:40,120
of course.

1608
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,680
That's perfect.

1609
00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:43,680
They're not going to come and kill Fido.

1610
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:45,200
They're going to send you a bill.

1611
00:55:46,340 --> 00:55:47,600
You know how many dogs there are?

1612
00:55:48,540 --> 00:55:49,580
That's a bonanza.

1613
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,760
And people will do anything for their animals.

1614
00:55:51,980 --> 00:55:52,840
Not for their kids.

1615
00:55:53,260 --> 00:55:54,880
Suit them up, ship them off to Ukraine.

1616
00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:56,540
But don't touch my dog.

1617
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,760
I'll pay the fine.

1618
00:55:59,420 --> 00:55:59,900
Yeah.

1619
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,720
Dog waste contributes to pollution in waterways, inhibits

1620
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:04,540
plant growth.

1621
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:05,900
Okay.

1622
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,960
No, I think the dog thing, I think,

1623
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680
is a carbon tax gambit.

1624
00:56:12,460 --> 00:56:13,760
Which makes sense to me.

1625
00:56:14,220 --> 00:56:14,760
It could be.

1626
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:15,600
Yeah, I think so.

1627
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,160
So anyway, yes, I felt just very poorly,

1628
00:56:18,260 --> 00:56:21,180
because I know that people aren't stupid, but

1629
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:23,340
they're all going along to get along.

1630
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:27,040
I don't want to be unpopular.

1631
00:56:27,740 --> 00:56:29,640
You know, they're changing the name of the

1632
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,100
school, Michiel de Ruyter.

1633
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,580
Now, you don't know Michiel de Ruyter, but

1634
00:56:33,580 --> 00:56:37,060
he traveled the world when he was 12

1635
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,620
years old.

1636
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:40,020
And then when the British Army, the Armada,

1637
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:41,220
the British Navy.

1638
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,540
His famous Dutch kid.

1639
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,460
Famous Dutch kid.

1640
00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:45,740
And then when the British Navy was sailing

1641
00:56:45,740 --> 00:56:49,080
over to Holland to basically capture the whole

1642
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,080
country, he really started up the Dutch Navy.

1643
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,020
The Marines went out there, they sailed out,

1644
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,900
and they kicked the British back.

1645
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,200
Well, now that school has to change its

1646
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,420
name to be more inclusive.

1647
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:07,060
Because, you know, it doesn't represent our society

1648
00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:07,540
anymore.

1649
00:57:08,180 --> 00:57:09,400
It's had that name for, I don't know,

1650
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,280
100 years.

1651
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,180
So we've seen this template.

1652
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,520
They just found a different George Floyd moment.

1653
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:18,580
And so they want to change the name

1654
00:57:18,580 --> 00:57:19,020
of the school.

1655
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,120
And they go out there, interview the parents.

1656
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,180
Oh, yes, I think we should change the

1657
00:57:23,180 --> 00:57:25,520
name of the school, because it really needs

1658
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,480
to be more inclusive.

1659
00:57:26,620 --> 00:57:28,060
It's not of this time anymore.

1660
00:57:28,260 --> 00:57:29,240
It's an old name.

1661
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:29,960
It's not good.

1662
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,200
And then the interviewer says, so what do

1663
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,120
you feel that I have to do?

1664
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,040
You should ask someone who knows more about

1665
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,360
history.

1666
00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:37,080
I don't really know.

1667
00:57:38,220 --> 00:57:39,100
They're afraid.

1668
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
They're afraid of being ostracized.

1669
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,900
And that's certainly the Dutch way, but I

1670
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:45,140
think it's also a bit of the European

1671
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:45,600
way.

1672
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,060
No, we didn't know.

1673
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:49,480
We didn't know.

1674
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:51,760
No, no.

1675
00:57:52,060 --> 00:57:53,320
They need to do something.

1676
00:57:54,580 --> 00:57:56,160
But they need somebody.

1677
00:57:56,460 --> 00:57:58,660
They need, well, they needed Donald Trump.

1678
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:01,800
Ultimately, that's why they hate him, because they

1679
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,340
want him.

1680
00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:04,820
They want someone like that to stand up

1681
00:58:04,820 --> 00:58:07,040
and say no, to be just that guy.

1682
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,300
That's the only thing I can make of

1683
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:13,540
it.

1684
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,920
Well, I think you're probably right.

1685
00:58:16,460 --> 00:58:17,260
I'm sad.

1686
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:18,620
I'm sad for Europe.

1687
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,940
I told Kevin, so you better put a

1688
00:58:20,940 --> 00:58:21,640
ring on it, man.

1689
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:24,560
She's going to come over, and you're going

1690
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,540
to get left behind.

1691
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:26,920
Yes, I'm sorry.

1692
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,560
A couple of Trump clips.

1693
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,100
This is what's going on over here when

1694
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:30,980
it comes to Trump.

1695
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:34,060
This is a Trump loyalist clip.

1696
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,720
This is the latest of the complaining going

1697
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,560
on on PBS.

1698
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:42,940
President Trump today advanced his plans to make

1699
00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:45,760
it easier to fire tens of thousands of

1700
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,560
federal workers.

1701
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,100
On social media, he said he would move

1702
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:52,200
forward with a rule previously known as Schedule

1703
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,700
F, which the administration said, quote, will allow

1704
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:59,620
agencies to quickly remove employees from critical positions

1705
00:58:59,620 --> 00:59:03,680
who engage in misconduct, perform poorly, or undermine

1706
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,420
the democratic process by intentionally subverting presidential directives.

1707
00:59:08,860 --> 00:59:11,820
Our White House correspondent, Laura Barone-Lopez, joins

1708
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:12,900
us now with the latest.

1709
00:59:13,660 --> 00:59:15,920
Laura, President Trump promised that he would do

1710
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,380
this.

1711
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,660
So what does this do, and how many

1712
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:19,620
workers would this affect?

1713
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,380
So Schedule F changes the job classification of

1714
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:26,120
nonpartisan federal workers, designating them as political appointees.

1715
00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:28,400
And so, bottom line, it makes it easier

1716
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,360
for the president to fire anyone that he

1717
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,720
considers disloyal and replace them with complete loyalists

1718
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,400
to his cause and to his agenda.

1719
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,720
Now, Schedule F was a part of the

1720
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,780
Project 2025 blueprint from the Heritage Foundation.

1721
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,220
And OMB director Russ Vogt was key in

1722
00:59:44,220 --> 00:59:46,300
drafting this during the first administration, but they

1723
00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:48,020
were not able to implement it during the

1724
00:59:48,020 --> 00:59:48,840
first administration.

1725
00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:50,760
I love the term blueprint.

1726
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,560
This is good.

1727
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,240
I read the document.

1728
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,080
It was a Chad GPT embellished piece of

1729
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:56,400
crap.

1730
00:59:57,340 --> 01:00:01,660
Way too long, single-spaced, unnecessary, long bios

1731
01:00:01,660 --> 01:00:02,460
of everybody.

1732
01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:03,780
It was very egotistical.

1733
01:00:04,340 --> 01:00:05,920
It had some things in there, like get

1734
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,140
rid of Department of Education.

1735
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:08,720
I think you could find that in other

1736
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,340
documents.

1737
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:12,520
But it was far from a blueprint.

1738
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:18,180
Yeah, a blueprint's actually the simplistic...

1739
01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:18,960
Yeah, yeah.

1740
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,740
Just nuts and bolts, as bold goes here.

1741
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:27,640
Yeah, we're coming back to this thesis.

1742
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:29,760
I mean, they have these memes they like

1743
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,920
to throw at Trump and loyalists, he's loyalist.

1744
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,840
In other words, you got people working against

1745
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,580
you and your project, and you want to

1746
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:41,320
get rid of them.

1747
01:00:41,780 --> 01:00:41,880
Yeah.

1748
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,880
I don't see why, how is that different

1749
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,160
than any other president or any other person

1750
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,280
running a company or running a government agency

1751
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,080
or being the president or anything else?

1752
01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:55,000
You don't want people working against you.

1753
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:56,540
No.

1754
01:00:57,500 --> 01:00:59,360
So why wouldn't you want to get rid

1755
01:00:59,360 --> 01:00:59,600
of them?

1756
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,420
Oh, because they're bringing in loyalists.

1757
01:01:02,620 --> 01:01:03,200
Okay, well...

1758
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:09,320
Because they're triggering internal conflicts of their listeners.

1759
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,420
Like, oh, well, imagine if someone could come

1760
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:14,540
and just fire me for not doing my

1761
01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:15,000
job.

1762
01:01:16,180 --> 01:01:20,800
I'm telling you, this is all socialist nonsense.

1763
01:01:20,980 --> 01:01:22,460
This Schedule F, I mean, that was a

1764
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:23,680
masterstroke.

1765
01:01:23,780 --> 01:01:26,060
Didn't he implement that in his first administration?

1766
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:26,880
Well, he tried.

1767
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,040
No, but I thought the law got passed

1768
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,660
or something was put through, kind of like

1769
01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:34,200
as a...

1770
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,240
Something never really got turned back.

1771
01:01:36,340 --> 01:01:37,100
No one changed it.

1772
01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:38,440
It was just sitting there, ready to be

1773
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:38,900
implemented.

1774
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,800
Well, that's what they're up to, and it

1775
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,360
got all these people in a tizzy.

1776
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,900
So here's the second part of this.

1777
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,260
And RestVote said throughout the campaign that they

1778
01:01:48,260 --> 01:01:51,760
wanted to traumatize federal workers, and the White

1779
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,940
House estimates that this will impact some 50

1780
01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:57,180
,000 federal workers that could be laid off,

1781
01:01:57,260 --> 01:01:59,200
but government experts say that that's probably a

1782
01:01:59,200 --> 01:01:59,440
minimum.

1783
01:02:00,220 --> 01:02:01,540
So what happens next?

1784
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,840
And has there been, I imagine, pushback to

1785
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:04,100
this?

1786
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,920
There has been pushback.

1787
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:07,460
But so first, what happens is a White

1788
01:02:07,460 --> 01:02:09,540
House official said that agencies have until April

1789
01:02:09,540 --> 01:02:12,440
20th to hand them the lists of who

1790
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,000
they think should be reclassified in their agencies.

1791
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,160
But Everett Kelley, the president of the American

1792
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,840
Federation of Government Employees, said that this is

1793
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,080
another in a series of deliberate moves by

1794
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,620
this administration to corrupt the federal government and

1795
01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:27,260
replace qualified public servants with political cronies.

1796
01:02:28,140 --> 01:02:28,240
Stooges!

1797
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:28,620
Cronies!

1798
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,840
The AFG says that they are going to

1799
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,200
split the administration, and they're the largest union

1800
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,480
representing federal workers.

1801
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,680
So this is part of a much bigger

1802
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,080
picture of Trump's war with the federal government.

1803
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:39,260
That is.

1804
01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:39,580
It is.

1805
01:02:39,580 --> 01:02:41,400
Now we have a war with the federal

1806
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,040
government.

1807
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,960
Oh, everything is a war.

1808
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,320
Everything is a war.

1809
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,520
Blueprint, playbook, war.

1810
01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:48,600
That is.

1811
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:49,120
It is.

1812
01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:51,040
And so this all comes as President Trump

1813
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,360
and Elon Musk's team have instituted firings across

1814
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,160
the board.

1815
01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:57,900
Yesterday, the Trump administration moved to fire some

1816
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:01,520
1,500 employees at the Consumer Financial Protection

1817
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:01,960
Bureau.

1818
01:03:02,420 --> 01:03:03,980
That's most of the agency, William.

1819
01:03:04,180 --> 01:03:06,780
And today, a federal judge paused those firings,

1820
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,900
calling it deeply concerning.

1821
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:12,240
And that the firings violated an earlier injunction.

1822
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Now when you, based on our reporting as

1823
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,900
well as a New York Times analysis, when

1824
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:18,720
you zoom out, essentially, there are more than

1825
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,580
132,000 workers that have either been fired

1826
01:03:21,580 --> 01:03:24,820
or pressured to take buyouts since Trump has

1827
01:03:24,820 --> 01:03:25,360
taken office.

1828
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,820
We spoke to Don Moynihan, a public policy

1829
01:03:27,820 --> 01:03:30,080
professor at University of Michigan, who said that

1830
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,620
this essentially defeats the purpose, this Schedule F,

1831
01:03:33,740 --> 01:03:35,780
of a nonpartisan civil service.

1832
01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:37,440
He said that in the end goal, this

1833
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,980
is about imposing loyalty tests, and that targeting

1834
01:03:41,980 --> 01:03:44,880
bureaucracy in this way is a hallmark trait

1835
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,140
of authoritarian regimes.

1836
01:03:46,340 --> 01:03:48,280
Practically, it could also mean that there's some

1837
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,140
favoritism that is instituted when it comes to

1838
01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:52,720
who gets government contracts.

1839
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,420
Oh, oh, there it is.

1840
01:03:55,460 --> 01:03:57,620
It's about the government contracts, and that's where

1841
01:03:57,620 --> 01:03:59,020
Elon comes back into play.

1842
01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:01,320
Yeah, it's about the government contracts.

1843
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,120
It's about the money.

1844
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:03,220
It's about the free money.

1845
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,520
It's really what it's about.

1846
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,550
It's not about partisanship or...

1847
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,700
I mean, the idea...

1848
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:11,980
Oh, it's the hallmark of authoritarian governments.

1849
01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:14,260
This is the way Chicago's been run forever.

1850
01:04:14,380 --> 01:04:14,740
Is that ever?

1851
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,880
That's the way it goes.

1852
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:17,800
Everything's partisan.

1853
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,480
Ever since the Polish built it, yeah.

1854
01:04:19,060 --> 01:04:21,900
Well, on that, here's a clip about Elon

1855
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:23,680
and government contracts.

1856
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,740
SpaceX is fronting a bid to build President

1857
01:04:26,740 --> 01:04:30,580
Trump's proposed Golden Dome missile defense system, a

1858
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:34,000
satellite-based shield designed to detect and stop

1859
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,220
long-range attacks.

1860
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:38,380
The company is working with Palantir and drone

1861
01:04:38,380 --> 01:04:41,620
maker Anduril on a concept that would launch

1862
01:04:41,620 --> 01:04:45,280
hundreds of satellites into low-Earth orbit to

1863
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,700
track threats in real time.

1864
01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:50,920
Another fleet, about 200 satellites, would carry strike

1865
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,640
capabilities like missiles or directed-energy weapons.

1866
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,300
Hey, you don't hear that very often these

1867
01:04:57,300 --> 01:04:57,580
days.

1868
01:04:57,820 --> 01:04:59,080
Directed-energy weapons.

1869
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,780
How you laughed at me about my directed

1870
01:05:01,780 --> 01:05:02,640
-energy weapons.

1871
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:03,060
I still laugh.

1872
01:05:03,980 --> 01:05:07,000
SpaceX is leading the custody layer, satellites that

1873
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,320
track incoming threats in real time.

1874
01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:12,680
Early design costs are estimated at $6 billion

1875
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,740
to $10 billion.

1876
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:14,660
Billions.

1877
01:05:14,860 --> 01:05:17,640
Instead of the government owning the system, SpaceX

1878
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,920
is pitching a subscription model.

1879
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,300
I love this!

1880
01:05:21,860 --> 01:05:25,500
Yeah, President Trump, you're behind on your monthly

1881
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:25,900
payment.

1882
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,260
Do you need a payment plan?

1883
01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:29,640
Because we have to turn you off.

1884
01:05:29,740 --> 01:05:32,360
You opted for the subscription service.

1885
01:05:32,540 --> 01:05:35,420
The Pentagon would pay for access similar to

1886
01:05:35,420 --> 01:05:38,000
a service, an approach that could speed up

1887
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,040
development but raises questions about long-term...

1888
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,240
Hold on, stop.

1889
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,740
I don't know how that could speed up

1890
01:05:43,740 --> 01:05:44,340
development.

1891
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:46,680
Defense as a service.

1892
01:05:47,020 --> 01:05:48,500
We have software as a service.

1893
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:50,740
DAS, DAS, DAS, DAS, yes!

1894
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,880
DAS, software as a service.

1895
01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:55,280
Give me a break.

1896
01:05:55,380 --> 01:05:56,120
I think it's great.

1897
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,840
Defense as a service.

1898
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,220
Yes, John and I, we are consultants in

1899
01:06:01,220 --> 01:06:02,260
the DAS...

1900
01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,420
In the DAS space, space, space.

1901
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:07,220
Space, space, DAS space.

1902
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,100
And we can recommend the right things for

1903
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:10,280
you.

1904
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,020
You need a subscription to this, you need

1905
01:06:12,020 --> 01:06:13,270
a subscription to Palantir.

1906
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,700
Now, Palantir has many subscriptions.

1907
01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:17,360
It's all part of DAS.

1908
01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:18,240
I mean, you want the drones?

1909
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,060
On-demand drones.

1910
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:21,720
On-demand, just whenever you want them.

1911
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:24,200
You just insert a quarter and the drones

1912
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:24,600
fly.

1913
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,700
D-O-D, drones on demand.

1914
01:06:28,140 --> 01:06:31,580
That could speed up development, but raises questions

1915
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:34,240
about long-term control and oversight.

1916
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,920
Over 180 companies have shown interest, including Lockheed,

1917
01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:40,680
Boeing, and Northrop.

1918
01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:45,380
But SpaceX's existing satellite network and launch capability

1919
01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:47,260
may give it a head start.

1920
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,240
Yeah, no kidding.

1921
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,900
I love the whole idea.

1922
01:06:51,620 --> 01:06:53,560
And we can also, you know, other countries,

1923
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,380
you want a subscription to our service?

1924
01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:57,620
Yeah, that's great.

1925
01:06:57,740 --> 01:06:58,380
You pay monthly.

1926
01:06:58,660 --> 01:07:00,440
It's exactly the same as the little...

1927
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,580
Yeah, you pay monthly.

1928
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,620
And of course, you know, I'm sorry, no

1929
01:07:05,620 --> 01:07:07,520
war from midnight to three.

1930
01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:08,600
We're doing upgrades.

1931
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,240
The system will be down.

1932
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,560
404, hello, Paige.

1933
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,840
Sorry, we're under maintenance right now.

1934
01:07:18,980 --> 01:07:20,300
No, can't do it.

1935
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,160
Yeah, it's great.

1936
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,060
This is great.

1937
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:25,240
I'm very excited about these things.

1938
01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:27,980
Okay, firings.

1939
01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:30,620
Now, this is interesting because at no point

1940
01:07:30,620 --> 01:07:32,600
did the president actually say he wanted to

1941
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,560
or he would fire Fed...

1942
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,120
Is it President Jerome Powell?

1943
01:07:39,220 --> 01:07:42,020
Is it the President of the Federal Reserve?

1944
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:43,340
Head.

1945
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,540
Is it head?

1946
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:46,660
Head of the Federal Reserve.

1947
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:47,640
The Fed head.

1948
01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:49,580
He's too late and always wrong.

1949
01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:52,320
That's how President Trump characterized the head of

1950
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,200
the U.S. Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell.

1951
01:07:54,420 --> 01:07:56,680
The U.S. President, unhappy with Powell, threatened

1952
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,480
to fire him.

1953
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,300
If I want him out, he'll be out

1954
01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:00,100
of there real fast.

1955
01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:00,600
Believe me.

1956
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,440
No, he did not say he was going

1957
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,040
to fire him.

1958
01:08:03,060 --> 01:08:04,560
He said he'll be out of there real,

1959
01:08:04,660 --> 01:08:05,460
real fast.

1960
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,800
Everyone's saying that he threatened to fire him,

1961
01:08:07,860 --> 01:08:09,420
but he did not say that.

1962
01:08:10,180 --> 01:08:11,520
And I don't think he has to say

1963
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,140
that, but that's how it's been taken.

1964
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:14,020
And to fire him.

1965
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,880
If I want him out, he'll be out

1966
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:16,680
of there real fast.

1967
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,200
Believe me.

1968
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,140
Trump criticized the Fed's chair for not cutting

1969
01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:21,779
the U.S. interest rate, which is at

1970
01:08:21,779 --> 01:08:24,640
more than 4%, unlike the European Central Bank,

1971
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:25,560
which cut theirs.

1972
01:08:25,819 --> 01:08:28,200
We have a Federal Reserve chairman that is

1973
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,460
playing politics, somebody that I've never been very

1974
01:08:31,460 --> 01:08:32,300
fond of, actually.

1975
01:08:32,859 --> 01:08:34,520
But he's playing politics.

1976
01:08:34,779 --> 01:08:36,160
Interest rates should be down now.

1977
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:37,319
They should be coming down.

1978
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,859
In Europe, as you know, they reduced them,

1979
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,420
I guess, seven times.

1980
01:08:41,740 --> 01:08:44,060
On Wednesday, Jerome Powell suggested that it was

1981
01:08:44,060 --> 01:08:47,300
Trump's tariffs which were causing economic uncertainty and

1982
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:49,779
preventing the Federal Reserve from lowering the rate.

1983
01:08:49,939 --> 01:08:51,979
The administration is, as I mentioned in my

1984
01:08:51,979 --> 01:08:55,779
remarks, is implementing significant policy changes, and particularly

1985
01:08:55,779 --> 01:08:57,260
trade now is the focus.

1986
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,580
And the effects of that are likely to

1987
01:08:59,580 --> 01:09:01,220
move us away from our goals.

1988
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,859
So unemployment is likely to go up as

1989
01:09:03,859 --> 01:09:06,319
the economy slows, in all likelihood, and inflation

1990
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,160
is likely to go up as tariffs find

1991
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:08,540
their way.

1992
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,580
But can Donald Trump put an early end

1993
01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:12,479
to Powell's mandate like he says he can?

1994
01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:15,180
Many legal experts believe this would be difficult.

1995
01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:18,100
The institution is supposed to be independent of

1996
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,180
the U.S. administration.

1997
01:09:19,420 --> 01:09:21,140
But because a court hasn't ruled on the

1998
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:23,140
matter before, no one can say for certain

1999
01:09:23,140 --> 01:09:23,819
what would happen.

2000
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,359
And President Trump has been defying many political

2001
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:28,420
norms since returning to office in January.

2002
01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:30,439
As for Powell, he said he would complete

2003
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,160
his term until 2026 and would not resign

2004
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,960
if asked to do so by the president.

2005
01:09:35,939 --> 01:09:38,060
Yeah, but we need to get those interest

2006
01:09:38,060 --> 01:09:41,200
rates down for the refi in 2025.

2007
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:45,660
So, you know, but the Federal Reserve is,

2008
01:09:45,939 --> 01:09:47,540
you know, this is the big joke.

2009
01:09:47,899 --> 01:09:50,960
This Federal Reserve's never been, they've always been

2010
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,300
off.

2011
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:53,540
Their timing has sucked.

2012
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:54,660
It's never been right.

2013
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,780
No, but I don't think changing it out

2014
01:09:57,780 --> 01:09:58,780
is going to make any difference.

2015
01:09:58,860 --> 01:10:00,220
No, it's not going to change anything.

2016
01:10:00,460 --> 01:10:02,720
You know, we need the Mar-a-Lago

2017
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:03,320
Accords.

2018
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:04,560
This is what has to happen.

2019
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,900
That'll put the pressure on.

2020
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:11,120
And Fifi, Fifi Lagarde over there in the

2021
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,700
EU, the European Central Bank, she is the

2022
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:15,060
Jay Powell of Europe.

2023
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:17,460
She's getting a little nervous.

2024
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,720
You know, she presents, so they lowered the

2025
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:21,340
interest rate now.

2026
01:10:21,460 --> 01:10:25,280
They're down to 2.25%, I believe, just

2027
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,420
in time to pour on some more debt.

2028
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,700
And she, I think the Mar-a-Lago

2029
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:35,040
Accords are coming and I think the Stablecoin

2030
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,520
is on its way because she gave a

2031
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,860
very nervous response about Stablecoin.

2032
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,300
On the issue of Stablecoins, you know that

2033
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:45,060
we have regulation in place.

2034
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:46,360
It's called MICAR.

2035
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:48,320
It is effective.

2036
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,200
It's currently under review and consultation for possible

2037
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:53,800
improvements.

2038
01:10:53,980 --> 01:10:55,440
And I'm delighted that this is the case

2039
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:59,920
because we are facing a constant evolution of

2040
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,920
those digital payments, of those cross-border payments,

2041
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,880
of those Stablecoins, which I would put in

2042
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,060
a very separate category from the cryptos.

2043
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,740
Yeah, because they're dollars, that's why.

2044
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,540
Cryptoassets or however you want to call them.

2045
01:11:14,620 --> 01:11:14,920
Cryptos.

2046
01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:16,720
So the Stablecoins are a different animal.

2047
01:11:17,420 --> 01:11:21,540
And clearly having a good, solid regulation that

2048
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:24,540
constitutes the framework within which they can operate,

2049
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,100
I think is paramount and has been understood

2050
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,880
by the European Union, by the commissions, by

2051
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,900
various authorities in charge of those matters.

2052
01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:36,200
And will be reviewed in order to make

2053
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,760
sure that it procures a safe harbour for

2054
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:39,400
those initiatives.

2055
01:11:39,660 --> 01:11:41,860
But let me take the opportunity of this

2056
01:11:41,860 --> 01:11:44,540
to acknowledge that for the first time in

2057
01:11:44,540 --> 01:11:47,340
our monetary policy statement, we refer to the

2058
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:48,100
digital euro.

2059
01:11:48,300 --> 01:11:50,360
And that should be a clear signal that

2060
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,040
not only do we stand ready and do

2061
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,720
the hard work that is incumbent upon us,

2062
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,440
but it also acknowledges the fact that other

2063
01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:02,260
European authorities are hopefully going to accelerate the

2064
01:12:02,260 --> 01:12:03,980
pace at which we can deliver.

2065
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,860
I think she's afraid that the Stablecoin is

2066
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:09,120
going to flood her market.

2067
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,320
What Stablecoin are we talking about?

2068
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,300
Any Stablecoin will be an American dollar-backed

2069
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:17,900
Stablecoin.

2070
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,920
She doesn't want people using Stablecoins.

2071
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,260
She's like, but we've got the digital euro

2072
01:12:23,260 --> 01:12:23,700
coming.

2073
01:12:23,860 --> 01:12:24,820
We've got our CBDC.

2074
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:25,780
This is what we want.

2075
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,080
We don't want your Stablecoins.

2076
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,320
Well, I don't blame her.

2077
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,660
No, of course not.

2078
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:35,520
We have regulations about that stuff.

2079
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,020
No Stablecoin for you.

2080
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,380
Don't use Stablecoin, people.

2081
01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:39,080
Don't use it.

2082
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:39,660
It's no good.

2083
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,240
You want our digital euro.

2084
01:12:46,090 --> 01:12:46,930
No cryptos.

2085
01:12:47,950 --> 01:12:49,950
It's a different animal from the cryptos.

2086
01:12:50,770 --> 01:12:51,510
The cryptos.

2087
01:12:52,670 --> 01:12:54,410
It's the trillion-dollar coin, John.

2088
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:54,830
It's coming.

2089
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:57,150
The trillion-dollar coin is the answer.

2090
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:57,950
It is the answer.

2091
01:12:58,030 --> 01:12:58,850
It always is.

2092
01:12:58,850 --> 01:13:01,570
In the end, the Simpsons predicted it, so

2093
01:13:01,570 --> 01:13:03,010
you know it's going to happen eventually.

2094
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:06,890
I've got an offbeat clip just to take

2095
01:13:06,890 --> 01:13:08,370
kind of a break.

2096
01:13:09,230 --> 01:13:13,070
This is a very strange clip about something

2097
01:13:13,070 --> 01:13:17,290
that I thought was probably the most underreported

2098
01:13:17,290 --> 01:13:17,590
story.

2099
01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:21,650
Well, it's totally just underreported, but it's also

2100
01:13:21,650 --> 01:13:24,310
the most interesting story I think came out

2101
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:24,810
all week.

2102
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:26,750
And you'd think they would have covered it

2103
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:29,050
on these Sunday morning shows because it's a

2104
01:13:29,050 --> 01:13:29,950
major event.

2105
01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:31,550
This is the Wisconsin story.

2106
01:13:32,690 --> 01:13:35,570
And in another court ruling over the power

2107
01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:38,790
of the executive branch, in Wisconsin today, the

2108
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:42,490
state Supreme Court upheld a very unique partial

2109
01:13:42,490 --> 01:13:44,370
veto power that the governor has.

2110
01:13:44,890 --> 01:13:47,370
Governor Tony Evers used that power back in

2111
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:51,050
2023 to lock in a school funding increase

2112
01:13:51,050 --> 01:13:53,450
for the next 400 years.

2113
01:13:53,450 --> 01:13:55,470
At the heart of the case was Evers'

2114
01:13:55,690 --> 01:13:58,790
ability to veto even the tiniest parts of

2115
01:13:58,790 --> 01:14:01,350
a bill to dramatically alter its meaning.

2116
01:14:01,470 --> 01:14:04,610
By striking individual words and numbers in the

2117
01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:08,850
legislation, he approved more school revenue increases until

2118
01:14:08,850 --> 01:14:11,550
literally the year 2425.

2119
01:14:12,210 --> 01:14:15,210
Wisconsin Supreme Court has been embroiled in national

2120
01:14:15,210 --> 01:14:18,950
politics recently with Elon Musk pouring millions into

2121
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:21,770
a race to back a conservative judge who

2122
01:14:21,770 --> 01:14:22,190
lost.

2123
01:14:22,190 --> 01:14:25,650
It was the most expensive judicial contest in

2124
01:14:25,650 --> 01:14:26,550
American history.

2125
01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:31,270
So you can literally stripe away the word

2126
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:32,190
like...

2127
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:33,710
Not.

2128
01:14:34,190 --> 01:14:37,030
You could take the word should not exceed

2129
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:38,850
and then just take away the word not

2130
01:14:38,850 --> 01:14:39,830
and it should exceed.

2131
01:14:40,450 --> 01:14:40,890
Yes.

2132
01:14:41,670 --> 01:14:41,990
Wow.

2133
01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:45,510
And is this a liberal or conservative governor?

2134
01:14:47,870 --> 01:14:50,510
I believe he's a liberal governor, but it

2135
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:52,690
was the liberal Supreme Court, the one that

2136
01:14:52,690 --> 01:14:54,730
Musk tried to get that other guy into

2137
01:14:54,730 --> 01:14:58,050
and he couldn't do it, that allowed this

2138
01:14:58,050 --> 01:14:59,770
to happen because he had done it anyway.

2139
01:14:59,970 --> 01:15:03,810
He was like, this is taking line-item

2140
01:15:03,810 --> 01:15:05,770
veto, which has been talked about forever.

2141
01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:06,790
To an extreme.

2142
01:15:07,070 --> 01:15:08,970
To an extreme and they can't seem to

2143
01:15:08,970 --> 01:15:09,490
implement it.

2144
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:11,270
This is not line-item veto.

2145
01:15:11,450 --> 01:15:12,930
This is word veto.

2146
01:15:13,150 --> 01:15:14,570
Yes, word veto.

2147
01:15:16,150 --> 01:15:19,070
And as a writer, I can assure you

2148
01:15:19,070 --> 01:15:21,490
that you can rewrite anything that means just

2149
01:15:21,490 --> 01:15:22,210
the opposite.

2150
01:15:22,450 --> 01:15:22,890
Easily.

2151
01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,290
Yeah, easily by just taking words out.

2152
01:15:26,330 --> 01:15:27,090
That's great.

2153
01:15:28,350 --> 01:15:32,110
And this is the most phenomenal story and

2154
01:15:32,110 --> 01:15:34,390
it also sets a precedent, at least at

2155
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:38,890
one state level, that this is something to

2156
01:15:38,890 --> 01:15:39,830
keep an eye on.

2157
01:15:41,890 --> 01:15:42,450
Wow.

2158
01:15:42,450 --> 01:15:47,130
So he managed to get school funding for

2159
01:15:47,130 --> 01:15:51,730
400 years somehow by dicking around with a

2160
01:15:51,730 --> 01:15:52,010
bill.

2161
01:15:52,510 --> 01:15:53,150
That's great.

2162
01:15:53,410 --> 01:15:54,810
Well, take this word out.

2163
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:56,770
You know, if you took this word out...

2164
01:15:56,770 --> 01:15:57,390
States' rights, baby.

2165
01:15:57,610 --> 01:15:58,350
States' rights.

2166
01:15:58,710 --> 01:15:59,850
Yeah, that's good.

2167
01:16:00,130 --> 01:16:01,910
Wisconsin should do whatever they want to do.

2168
01:16:02,190 --> 01:16:03,830
That's beyond states' rights.

2169
01:16:04,010 --> 01:16:05,250
They should do whatever they want to do.

2170
01:16:05,330 --> 01:16:07,230
If they can do that, they need to

2171
01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:08,110
change their constitution.

2172
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:09,890
That's fantastic.

2173
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:11,850
That's why America is so fun.

2174
01:16:11,850 --> 01:16:12,710
We're exciting.

2175
01:16:13,130 --> 01:16:15,110
We have crazy stuff that happens.

2176
01:16:16,510 --> 01:16:18,550
So talking about crazy stuff, I do have

2177
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:21,490
some Brooks and Capehart clips, which I have

2178
01:16:21,490 --> 01:16:22,510
not done for weeks.

2179
01:16:23,890 --> 01:16:24,450
Okay.

2180
01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:26,270
Because of Gigi.

2181
01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:29,780
Okay.

2182
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,260
Brooks and Capehart, the show that literally no

2183
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:35,420
one else but you watches.

2184
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,100
It's not a show.

2185
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:39,940
What is it then?

2186
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:40,820
What do you mean it's not?

2187
01:16:40,820 --> 01:16:43,140
It's a segment on the Friday version of

2188
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:44,300
the PBS NewsHour.

2189
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,560
You're able to get four clips out of

2190
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,780
a segment of a show?

2191
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:48,920
That's unbelievable.

2192
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,400
Yes, I have the...

2193
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,800
We're starting with the BBC...

2194
01:16:57,580 --> 01:17:00,240
This would be...

2195
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,200
I think the one I start with is...

2196
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:02,380
Yeah.

2197
01:17:03,620 --> 01:17:04,740
Brooks, nuts.

2198
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,300
You offered a prescription, David, in your column

2199
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:10,620
in the New York Times for this moment

2200
01:17:10,620 --> 01:17:12,400
that we are in, and you called for

2201
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:13,620
a civic uprising.

2202
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,120
You said in this column...

2203
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:15,860
Wait, stop, stop, stop.

2204
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:16,840
Civic uprising?

2205
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:17,340
I don't know.

2206
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:18,320
This is not the right one?

2207
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,100
You got to...

2208
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:21,520
No, that's part of the series of nuts.

2209
01:17:22,340 --> 01:17:23,180
The one we really want...

2210
01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:23,560
I'm sorry.

2211
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:26,380
This is BNC Brooks...

2212
01:17:27,620 --> 01:17:28,060
Crisis.

2213
01:17:28,340 --> 01:17:28,860
Crisis?

2214
01:17:29,180 --> 01:17:29,640
Crisis.

2215
01:17:29,980 --> 01:17:30,360
Crisis.

2216
01:17:30,860 --> 01:17:31,780
Brooks Crisis.

2217
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:32,880
It says crisis.

2218
01:17:33,260 --> 01:17:35,600
I want to talk about President Trump and

2219
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,140
the courts.

2220
01:17:36,380 --> 01:17:40,080
The president has wielded his authority in, I

2221
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,480
think, by any measure, in an extraordinary way.

2222
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:45,200
Slashing budgets and jobs across the federal government,

2223
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:48,200
targeting billions of dollars at colleges and universities,

2224
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,200
threatening major law firms.

2225
01:17:50,340 --> 01:17:53,640
On immigration, we've all been following that remarkable

2226
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,000
process.

2227
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,340
But the courts, David, in many instances, have

2228
01:17:58,340 --> 01:17:59,920
stood up to the president.

2229
01:18:00,420 --> 01:18:02,920
Do you think that they are doing their

2230
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,440
appropriate role of check and balance?

2231
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:06,780
Yeah, I think they are.

2232
01:18:07,060 --> 01:18:08,820
The question is whether Trump pays any attention

2233
01:18:08,820 --> 01:18:09,340
to the courts.

2234
01:18:09,340 --> 01:18:11,380
And so, to me, watching the Trump administration,

2235
01:18:11,540 --> 01:18:12,960
it's just like watching an administration say, you

2236
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,700
know, we've decided stoplights don't apply to us.

2237
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,800
Yellow lines down the middle don't apply.

2238
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,420
We're just going to roll over it, and

2239
01:18:19,420 --> 01:18:20,300
you stop us.

2240
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,700
And when you think constitutional crisis, you think,

2241
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,100
like, two sides faking off on the barricades.

2242
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:28,340
But I've actually lived through a constitutional crisis.

2243
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:29,380
When I was at the Wall Street Journal,

2244
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:30,960
I covered the end of the Soviet Union.

2245
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:31,480
Whoa.

2246
01:18:32,380 --> 01:18:34,080
That was a constitutional crisis?

2247
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:34,480
Okay.

2248
01:18:34,820 --> 01:18:36,320
And it was obviously very different in many

2249
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:36,520
ways.

2250
01:18:36,580 --> 01:18:37,520
But one thing was interesting.

2251
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,100
The mental adjustment I had to make.

2252
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,060
The mental adjustment?

2253
01:18:41,140 --> 01:18:42,200
Yeah, at the very end.

2254
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,160
Because I grew up in a country where

2255
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:45,920
I assume if a law is passed, then

2256
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,840
things will change.

2257
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,020
It will be enforced, and it will be

2258
01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:48,860
a reality on the ground.

2259
01:18:49,220 --> 01:18:50,240
But at the very end of the Soviet

2260
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,600
Union, they would pass law after law, and

2261
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:53,220
nothing happened.

2262
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,000
Nobody bothered to enforce it.

2263
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,400
It never had any implementation.

2264
01:18:56,940 --> 01:18:58,100
So the laws were fictional.

2265
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,200
Because people had lost faith in the laws,

2266
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,300
lost faith in the whole system.

2267
01:19:02,820 --> 01:19:04,760
And so what happens now is not that

2268
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,800
you get this big conflict, but Trump just

2269
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,120
says, we're going to arrest a guy and

2270
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,180
give him no due process.

2271
01:19:11,940 --> 01:19:13,620
And there's like no conversation.

2272
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:14,340
It just happens.

2273
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,680
And nobody's there to stop it, because famously

2274
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,080
the judiciary doesn't have an army.

2275
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:18,920
Right.

2276
01:19:19,220 --> 01:19:22,700
Now, is he referring to when President Biden

2277
01:19:22,700 --> 01:19:25,700
just said, you know, we're not going to

2278
01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:27,160
adhere to the laws of immigration?

2279
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:28,840
Is that what he's talking about?

2280
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,460
Because that sounds awfully familiar.

2281
01:19:30,460 --> 01:19:35,820
Or Biden refusing to suspend the freebie money

2282
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:37,820
for the people who took out student loans

2283
01:19:37,820 --> 01:19:39,940
and the Supreme Court told him not to?

2284
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:40,980
Is he talking about that?

2285
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:41,960
I guess.

2286
01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:44,160
But, you know, the Supreme Court clearly needs

2287
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:44,620
guns.

2288
01:19:45,980 --> 01:19:47,000
Give them weapons.

2289
01:19:47,300 --> 01:19:48,040
A couple of things.

2290
01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:48,860
A couple of things.

2291
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,020
Of course, when I started doing these clips,

2292
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,920
I always get the same basic complaint.

2293
01:19:55,620 --> 01:19:55,800
Yeah.

2294
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,700
Don't give your money to PBS.

2295
01:19:59,660 --> 01:20:00,640
That's what it always is.

2296
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:01,100
Okay.

2297
01:20:01,260 --> 01:20:02,920
Well, that's at the top of the list.

2298
01:20:02,980 --> 01:20:04,300
Don't give your money to PBS.

2299
01:20:04,820 --> 01:20:09,080
Where is somebody that can defend Trump's policies

2300
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,620
as a point of interest, as opposed to

2301
01:20:14,620 --> 01:20:15,740
two guys who hate Trump?

2302
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,620
Brooks, who's supposedly a conservative, much of the

2303
01:20:18,620 --> 01:20:22,820
way like that crackpot Jennifer Rubin, who is

2304
01:20:22,820 --> 01:20:25,060
at the Washington Post, called herself a conservative

2305
01:20:25,060 --> 01:20:25,620
blogger.

2306
01:20:25,620 --> 01:20:27,080
She's a liberal nut.

2307
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,760
And Brooks is not.

2308
01:20:29,060 --> 01:20:30,180
Where's Ann Coulter?

2309
01:20:32,460 --> 01:20:33,300
That's a good question.

2310
01:20:33,460 --> 01:20:34,240
Where is Ann Coulter?

2311
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:34,580
I don't know.

2312
01:20:35,020 --> 01:20:37,880
They could put anybody in there to have

2313
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:38,740
a counterpoint.

2314
01:20:38,820 --> 01:20:40,060
It should be point, counterpoint.

2315
01:20:40,340 --> 01:20:42,460
Not two guys that both hate Trump.

2316
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,300
Brooks hates Trump and Capehart really hates Trump.

2317
01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:48,660
I guess maybe that's the difference.

2318
01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:50,500
One hates Trump more than the other.

2319
01:20:50,740 --> 01:20:51,780
But they know their audience.

2320
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,600
They don't want anyone defending him.

2321
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:54,940
They want more, more.

2322
01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:55,940
Pile it on.

2323
01:20:55,940 --> 01:20:56,600
He's no good.

2324
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,460
I'm getting mad.

2325
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,320
So the other thing is, he went through

2326
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,140
a constitutional crisis by visiting Russia.

2327
01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:05,500
Yes, it was very hard.

2328
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,220
And by the way, the Soviet Union was

2329
01:21:07,220 --> 01:21:09,440
always run with a bunch of laws that

2330
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:10,320
were never enforced.

2331
01:21:10,420 --> 01:21:12,360
They were there for the purposes of enforcing

2332
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,100
when needed.

2333
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:14,160
That was their idea.

2334
01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:17,020
My favorite, I went there before the fall

2335
01:21:17,020 --> 01:21:17,560
of communism.

2336
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,700
I was in the Soviet Union and visited.

2337
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,760
And there's all these laws they have.

2338
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,340
You can't do it.

2339
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:27,740
If they wanted to arrest you, they'd find

2340
01:21:27,740 --> 01:21:29,000
a million things that you did wrong.

2341
01:21:29,660 --> 01:21:34,680
And my favorite one was the, you can't

2342
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,820
take money out.

2343
01:21:35,900 --> 01:21:38,960
You can't take the ruble outside of the

2344
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,340
country.

2345
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:40,460
It has to stay inside.

2346
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,660
I still have rubles in my box.

2347
01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:44,040
I know everybody took them out of the

2348
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:44,260
country.

2349
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:47,380
The point is, is that they could arrest

2350
01:21:47,380 --> 01:21:47,640
you.

2351
01:21:48,020 --> 01:21:50,300
But you're not supposed to take rubles outside

2352
01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:50,940
of the country.

2353
01:21:51,380 --> 01:21:54,340
Technically, just outside of the, there's some point

2354
01:21:54,340 --> 01:21:56,740
where you're just outside the airport is considered

2355
01:21:56,740 --> 01:21:57,820
not in the country.

2356
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,880
And that's where they store the carts for

2357
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,140
the airport, the luggage carts.

2358
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,840
And to get one of the carts, you

2359
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:06,840
have to use a ruble.

2360
01:22:07,380 --> 01:22:10,560
So to use a cart, you have to

2361
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,440
break the law.

2362
01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:15,900
Well, when I was in Russia, Soviet Union,

2363
01:22:16,060 --> 01:22:18,580
before the wall came down, they told me

2364
01:22:18,580 --> 01:22:20,540
whatever you do, don't insult the Kremlin.

2365
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,620
So Sebastian Bach and I, Sebastian of Skid

2366
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:26,840
Row, we went and we were drinking vodka

2367
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,680
on Red Square at 3 a.m. and

2368
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,400
we were trading T-shirts for some of

2369
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,500
those cool Russian furry hats.

2370
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,640
We didn't get arrested.

2371
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,400
We were there with Ozzy.

2372
01:22:37,380 --> 01:22:38,500
But you could have been.

2373
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:39,040
Could have been.

2374
01:22:40,060 --> 01:22:41,960
Yeah, you're not supposed to do any buying

2375
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,740
or selling or anything during that era.

2376
01:22:44,060 --> 01:22:47,140
I was told that, you know, everything's under

2377
01:22:47,140 --> 01:22:47,660
the table.

2378
01:22:47,660 --> 01:22:49,580
So I picked up a couple of Russian

2379
01:22:49,580 --> 01:22:55,620
watches that had Yuri Gagarin on them.

2380
01:22:55,980 --> 01:22:56,420
Collectibles.

2381
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:59,080
Total collectible.

2382
01:22:59,460 --> 01:23:00,280
Do you have them still?

2383
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,660
And so they were, I forget, some guy

2384
01:23:02,660 --> 01:23:03,880
comes up to me, would you like to

2385
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:04,480
buy a watch?

2386
01:23:05,300 --> 01:23:06,960
And I was told they were going to

2387
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,560
be trying to sell me these watches.

2388
01:23:08,980 --> 01:23:10,540
But they're illegal to buy.

2389
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:11,660
Yes.

2390
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,460
So I said, yeah, sure.

2391
01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:17,880
And so I gave him whatever it was

2392
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,500
and I looked at the watch and I

2393
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:23,280
looked up, the guy was disappeared.

2394
01:23:23,820 --> 01:23:24,860
I mean, he was just like, I've never

2395
01:23:24,860 --> 01:23:27,160
seen anyone vanish in thin air like this.

2396
01:23:27,980 --> 01:23:30,160
The other thing that was notable when I

2397
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,200
was there was they did, this was the

2398
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,460
beginning of the end where they would allow

2399
01:23:34,460 --> 01:23:40,960
these, some vendors around the Kremlin, they had

2400
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:46,660
these little shops that would sell approved souvenirs.

2401
01:23:48,140 --> 01:23:49,860
And so you could buy like a shirt.

2402
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,040
This is during Perestroika and I actually bought

2403
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,860
a Perestroika t-shirt.

2404
01:23:57,140 --> 01:24:01,400
And the rule was if the shirt cost

2405
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,300
five rubles and 50 kopecks or whatever it

2406
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:07,520
was, I can't remember what the censor called,

2407
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,780
you had to pay exactly that amount because

2408
01:24:10,780 --> 01:24:12,600
they can't make change.

2409
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,860
No change, right.

2410
01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:15,380
They can't.

2411
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,440
It was against the law to make change

2412
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:19,720
and it was also against the law to

2413
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:20,380
overpay.

2414
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,460
So you couldn't give them six and say

2415
01:24:22,460 --> 01:24:24,480
keep the change.

2416
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,760
It was nuts.

2417
01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:30,820
And so this is Brooks's example of going

2418
01:24:30,820 --> 01:24:32,460
through a constitutional crisis.

2419
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,280
This guy is so full of it.

2420
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:35,740
It's an embarrassment.

2421
01:24:35,740 --> 01:24:36,660
Let's go to clip two.

2422
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:37,120
I'm sorry.

2423
01:24:37,820 --> 01:24:39,080
Would this be nuts?

2424
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:39,920
Nuts one?

2425
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:41,320
No, no.

2426
01:24:42,380 --> 01:24:45,220
The second part is Capehart's response.

2427
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,000
This is the BNC Capehart follow up to

2428
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:49,760
what Brooks said.

2429
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,860
So we can get the debate going.

2430
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:52,500
Oh, yes.

2431
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:53,000
Here we go.

2432
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:54,160
Jonathan, what do you think about that?

2433
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,300
I mean, we had Georgetown Law Professor Steve

2434
01:24:57,300 --> 01:24:58,020
Ladeck on the show.

2435
01:24:58,100 --> 01:24:59,840
He says we're not quite there yet because

2436
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,740
the Trump administration has not yet formally blown

2437
01:25:03,740 --> 01:25:07,540
through overtly ignored a direct court order yet.

2438
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:09,760
But we also heard from the League of

2439
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,640
Women Voters, the nonpartisan organization, who this week

2440
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,660
I'd like to read you this quote.

2441
01:25:14,020 --> 01:25:14,180
Oh, shit.

2442
01:25:14,420 --> 01:25:17,920
Who walked away from managing the elections because

2443
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,640
it was so rigged and stupid.

2444
01:25:20,140 --> 01:25:22,820
They said, quote, it has now been 87

2445
01:25:22,820 --> 01:25:24,480
days since the start of the Trump administration

2446
01:25:25,060 --> 01:25:28,420
from the flagrant disregard for congressional authority and

2447
01:25:28,420 --> 01:25:31,820
governmental checks and balances to defying Supreme Court

2448
01:25:31,820 --> 01:25:34,580
orders to bring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back home.

2449
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,740
One thing is abundantly clear.

2450
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:39,980
Our country is in a constitutional crisis.

2451
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,720
Bum, bum, bum, bum.

2452
01:25:42,710 --> 01:25:44,140
Where do you come down on that?

2453
01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:47,040
I am glad you read that because I

2454
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:47,520
was shaking.

2455
01:25:47,660 --> 01:25:49,340
I was nodding in agreement with the League

2456
01:25:49,340 --> 01:25:50,020
of Women Voters.

2457
01:25:50,540 --> 01:25:53,440
How can you say that the president hasn't

2458
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:54,880
defied court orders?

2459
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,320
You've got Judge Boasberg, who is threatening to,

2460
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,580
says yesterday that there's probable cause to charge

2461
01:26:01,580 --> 01:26:04,580
the government or lawyers arguing on behalf of

2462
01:26:04,580 --> 01:26:06,660
the government with criminal contempt.

2463
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:07,360
Why?

2464
01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:08,080
Why?

2465
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:08,600
Why?

2466
01:26:08,900 --> 01:26:11,980
Because the president of the United States and

2467
01:26:11,980 --> 01:26:16,060
his administration ignored his order to not deport

2468
01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:18,000
those folks to El Salvador.

2469
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:20,960
So I know there are these formal definitions

2470
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,900
of what a constitutional crisis is.

2471
01:26:22,900 --> 01:26:25,640
But from where I sit in my schoolhouse

2472
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,580
rock knowledge of how our government is supposed

2473
01:26:28,580 --> 01:26:30,820
to work, we are in one.

2474
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,620
We have a president of the United States

2475
01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:36,360
who on a daily basis blows past the

2476
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,480
guardrails, pushes as far as he can get

2477
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:40,740
to test the system.

2478
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,300
And what has heartened me this week is

2479
01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:47,320
hearing from Judge Boasberg and the judge who

2480
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,200
ruled yesterday in that beautiful seven-page opinion

2481
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,020
where they are not just saying this isn't

2482
01:26:53,020 --> 01:26:54,000
the right thing to do.

2483
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,420
They are pushing back just as aggressively from

2484
01:26:57,420 --> 01:26:59,540
their respective federal benches.

2485
01:26:59,740 --> 01:27:02,760
And I think we will be better for

2486
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:02,960
it.

2487
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,320
I read that opinion and indeed.

2488
01:27:07,340 --> 01:27:08,060
Beautiful.

2489
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:10,720
Yum.

2490
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,520
Those seven pages were just so beautiful.

2491
01:27:14,940 --> 01:27:17,200
That guy is under investigation.

2492
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:18,760
No one mentions this.

2493
01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:22,260
He's under investigation, that judge.

2494
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:23,620
Yeah, Boasberg.

2495
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:24,060
Yes.

2496
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:25,920
No one mentions that.

2497
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:27,240
Okay.

2498
01:27:27,460 --> 01:27:30,360
But I mean, what really constitutes a constitutional

2499
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:30,900
crisis?

2500
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,820
I mean, if the Supreme Court says you

2501
01:27:33,820 --> 01:27:35,640
can't do that and the president does it,

2502
01:27:35,740 --> 01:27:38,340
is that by definition a constitutional crisis?

2503
01:27:38,580 --> 01:27:39,740
No, none of this is.

2504
01:27:39,900 --> 01:27:41,420
These people are insane.

2505
01:27:41,660 --> 01:27:43,820
They like the term.

2506
01:27:43,820 --> 01:27:46,900
They like the term because then it can

2507
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:50,440
easily devolve into the concept of a threat

2508
01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:53,580
to democracy, which is something they came up

2509
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:54,780
with and they love it.

2510
01:27:55,900 --> 01:27:57,960
And so they just want to keep harping

2511
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,180
on it, threat to democracy.

2512
01:27:59,420 --> 01:28:01,460
Well, if you use their standards, this show,

2513
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,960
this very show has been a constitutional crisis

2514
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,640
many times just between you and I.

2515
01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:08,000
And it's a threat to democracy by their

2516
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:08,460
definition.

2517
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:09,900
It's a big threat to democracy.

2518
01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:11,680
By their definition.

2519
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,900
Because a threat to democracy is a threat

2520
01:28:13,900 --> 01:28:16,580
to the Democrat Party is what they mean.

2521
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:17,400
So what happens?

2522
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,780
This is a question.

2523
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,140
This is a constitutional question.

2524
01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:26,880
So if the president ignores a court decision

2525
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,280
or court order.

2526
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:29,740
You mean like Biden did?

2527
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:31,220
Yes.

2528
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,540
What happens?

2529
01:28:33,660 --> 01:28:35,620
What does the constitution say?

2530
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:36,800
What is supposed to happen?

2531
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:39,560
What's supposed to happen is you impeach the

2532
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:39,980
president.

2533
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:40,520
Ah.

2534
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:41,440
Okay.

2535
01:28:45,700 --> 01:28:47,140
Which they'll do as soon as they get

2536
01:28:47,140 --> 01:28:47,380
back.

2537
01:28:47,780 --> 01:28:49,340
Once the Democrats get the.

2538
01:28:49,940 --> 01:28:50,200
Yes.

2539
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:50,700
Yeah.

2540
01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:55,540
It's unlikely president if they lose the House

2541
01:28:55,540 --> 01:28:57,680
and the Senate or either one or the

2542
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:58,440
House in particular.

2543
01:28:59,460 --> 01:29:00,820
It's sure to be an impeachment.

2544
01:29:01,060 --> 01:29:02,080
He'll never finish four years.

2545
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:03,020
It has to be the House.

2546
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,040
The House is the one that initiates.

2547
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:05,700
Yeah, the House.

2548
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,920
Yeah, they'll impeach him for the third time.

2549
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,360
Nothing will come of it because you can't

2550
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,420
get that many senators.

2551
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,600
You have to have 60 senators.

2552
01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:13,480
No, no, no.

2553
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,620
No, it's 75.

2554
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,540
I think you have to have 75%.

2555
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:17,540
Right.

2556
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:19,920
Then that will be the whole circus all

2557
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:20,440
over again.

2558
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,020
And then after that in 2028, the show

2559
01:29:23,020 --> 01:29:25,220
ends because I can't do it anymore.

2560
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:26,900
I can't.

2561
01:29:26,980 --> 01:29:27,400
I can't.

2562
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:28,220
It would be too much.

2563
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:29,880
I can't take it.

2564
01:29:31,540 --> 01:29:33,900
So this Brooks is off the rails to

2565
01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:35,760
the point where now he sounds more like

2566
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:36,800
a Democrat than ever.

2567
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:41,340
And now he's actually part of the idea

2568
01:29:41,340 --> 01:29:44,600
of protesting in the streets because it's gotten

2569
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,920
so bad with Trump.

2570
01:29:46,340 --> 01:29:46,780
Pitchforks.

2571
01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:47,680
Let's go, people.

2572
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,120
Let's go.

2573
01:29:48,140 --> 01:29:48,740
It's so bad.

2574
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:49,780
It's so bad.

2575
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:50,580
I don't know if you look out your

2576
01:29:50,580 --> 01:29:52,540
window right now, you probably see people running

2577
01:29:52,540 --> 01:29:53,700
up and down the street with their hair

2578
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:54,140
on fire.

2579
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,520
I see nothing but pickup trucks with Confederate

2580
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:58,840
flags around here, John.

2581
01:29:58,940 --> 01:30:00,700
Everybody in Fredericksburg is happy.

2582
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:01,820
They're happy.

2583
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,500
The funny thing is I'm not seeing anything

2584
01:30:03,500 --> 01:30:05,920
different here in the Berkeley area.

2585
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,720
Let alone if I drove past the Tesla

2586
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,800
place again with a thousand Teslas surrounding it.

2587
01:30:11,860 --> 01:30:12,420
There's not one.

2588
01:30:12,820 --> 01:30:16,480
I haven't seen one damaged Tesla or anything

2589
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:17,120
in between.

2590
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,400
So the whole thing is something of a

2591
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,240
farce.

2592
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,960
But let's listen to what Brooks believes should

2593
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:24,380
happen.

2594
01:30:25,140 --> 01:30:27,640
You offered a prescription, David, in your column

2595
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,960
in the New York Times for this moment

2596
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:30,740
that we are in.

2597
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,960
And you called for a civic uprising.

2598
01:30:33,180 --> 01:30:34,480
You said in this column, I want to

2599
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:35,340
read a bit of this.

2600
01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:37,300
Saying that the attacks that we've seen on

2601
01:30:37,300 --> 01:30:40,080
institutions, quote, are not separate battles.

2602
01:30:40,260 --> 01:30:42,620
This is a simple effort to undo the

2603
01:30:42,620 --> 01:30:45,900
parts of the civilizational order that might restrain

2604
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:48,320
Trump's acquisition of power.

2605
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,800
So how would that civic uprising form?

2606
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:54,400
Yeah, the core argument is that Trump is

2607
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:55,540
really about amassing power.

2608
01:30:55,780 --> 01:30:57,660
And anything that might potentially restrain his power,

2609
01:30:57,740 --> 01:30:58,360
he will destroy.

2610
01:30:58,620 --> 01:31:00,540
And that includes the court systems.

2611
01:31:00,540 --> 01:31:03,600
And anything part of it that livens humanity

2612
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,240
includes the universities, the scientific community, the truth,

2613
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:06,760
the media.

2614
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,220
And so far we've responded to all these

2615
01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:11,920
things, like NATO and in separate lanes.

2616
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,080
We think the Fed is different than NATO,

2617
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,240
which is different from the universities.

2618
01:31:15,580 --> 01:31:16,620
But my point is this is all one

2619
01:31:16,620 --> 01:31:16,880
thing.

2620
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,880
And if institutions and even sectors try to

2621
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,380
respond to this individually, they're doomed.

2622
01:31:23,740 --> 01:31:26,020
Even Harvard with $52 billion in its endowment.

2623
01:31:26,460 --> 01:31:27,280
You can't do it alone.

2624
01:31:27,380 --> 01:31:28,620
Though that was a signal moment.

2625
01:31:28,620 --> 01:31:30,140
That was a crucial turning point because it

2626
01:31:30,140 --> 01:31:31,860
changed the minds of everybody in every university

2627
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:32,840
I've talked to since then.

2628
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:33,960
Oh, really?

2629
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:34,280
Yeah.

2630
01:31:34,460 --> 01:31:35,660
So post-Harvard they've all said.

2631
01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:37,260
A lot of them beforehand were like, well,

2632
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:37,940
Columbia made a deal.

2633
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:38,900
Maybe that's right for us.

2634
01:31:39,260 --> 01:31:42,040
Once Harvard came out, I talked to a

2635
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,080
couple of university presidents who said, oh, this

2636
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,060
is where we need to be.

2637
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,720
Because the Trump administration made it impossible for

2638
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:49,620
Harvard not to say no.

2639
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,180
And that's what we're dealing with here.

2640
01:31:51,660 --> 01:31:53,300
And so the point I tried to make

2641
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:55,140
is all these different sectors have to get

2642
01:31:55,140 --> 01:31:57,800
together and form one big civic movement.

2643
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,300
And it can't be political.

2644
01:31:59,340 --> 01:32:00,860
It's not Democrats versus Republicans.

2645
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:02,140
It's not left versus right.

2646
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,140
It's institutions versus the destruction of our institutions

2647
01:32:05,140 --> 01:32:05,860
of civilization.

2648
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:07,840
Oh, institutions of civilization.

2649
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,580
Yeah, well, this is what they're saying in

2650
01:32:09,580 --> 01:32:09,820
Europe.

2651
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,640
He's destroying the institutions of civilization.

2652
01:32:14,220 --> 01:32:15,060
Of civilization.

2653
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:16,440
Oh, man.

2654
01:32:16,820 --> 01:32:19,200
The other thing they're saying in Europe is

2655
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,500
America is right now in the middle of

2656
01:32:21,500 --> 01:32:22,080
a revolution.

2657
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:23,200
And that is true.

2658
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,720
That is exactly what's happening.

2659
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,340
We are in the middle of a revolution

2660
01:32:27,340 --> 01:32:32,360
breaking down stupid stuff that we all somehow

2661
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,280
were told to believe that this is how

2662
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:34,720
it goes.

2663
01:32:34,820 --> 01:32:36,040
This is what it is.

2664
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:37,700
You don't fire government workers.

2665
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,420
Keep everything going.

2666
01:32:39,700 --> 01:32:42,040
Just go along to keep going along.

2667
01:32:42,140 --> 01:32:42,620
Keep along.

2668
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:43,440
It's all good.

2669
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,020
And no, no, it's stopping.

2670
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:49,220
Yeah.

2671
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,860
They don't get that part.

2672
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,600
So these guys think that they're, OK, well,

2673
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,340
maybe it's the Bernie and AOC crowd.

2674
01:32:55,340 --> 01:32:56,660
Maybe you can arm them.

2675
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:58,160
Yeah.

2676
01:32:58,420 --> 01:32:59,140
Can you imagine?

2677
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,320
No, I can't.

2678
01:33:01,940 --> 01:33:03,620
There was a good thread that I put

2679
01:33:03,620 --> 01:33:10,020
up on X, formerly known as Twitter, that

2680
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:14,220
somebody had posted a big protest in England

2681
01:33:14,220 --> 01:33:16,600
pro-trans.

2682
01:33:17,420 --> 01:33:17,680
Oh.

2683
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,100
And so somebody had collected, gone to the

2684
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:23,760
thing and collected all these pictures of the

2685
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:24,260
signage.

2686
01:33:24,260 --> 01:33:26,600
And it's frightening.

2687
01:33:27,820 --> 01:33:31,080
It's so off the, it's unbelievable.

2688
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,700
People should try to track that down.

2689
01:33:32,780 --> 01:33:34,320
And by the way, I do need more

2690
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,740
followers, the real Dvorak on Twitter.

2691
01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:38,860
You're never, it's never going to happen.

2692
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:40,240
I have the same thing.

2693
01:33:40,380 --> 01:33:43,480
I'm stuck forever at 98,000.

2694
01:33:43,820 --> 01:33:45,800
This is because before Elon got in there,

2695
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,840
they put, I'm sure they have limits.

2696
01:33:48,220 --> 01:33:49,540
They actually gave a limit.

2697
01:33:49,700 --> 01:33:51,540
If this guy goes beyond this number, no.

2698
01:33:51,780 --> 01:33:53,000
Yeah, that's me.

2699
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,080
Yeah, I think it is you.

2700
01:33:55,220 --> 01:33:56,540
And I think of me for sure, because

2701
01:33:56,540 --> 01:34:02,340
I get to 102,000.4 and it

2702
01:34:02,340 --> 01:34:03,000
stops.

2703
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:04,900
Or it goes down.

2704
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,340
I'm down to 102.2. I should be

2705
01:34:07,340 --> 01:34:07,920
at a million.

2706
01:34:08,140 --> 01:34:09,640
Okay, I'm looking at this thread now.

2707
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:10,720
Here's a sign.

2708
01:34:10,860 --> 01:34:12,340
I will make you listen.

2709
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:14,320
Trans women are women.

2710
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:15,440
Trans men are men.

2711
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,040
If you don't like that, go shit somewhere

2712
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:18,540
else.

2713
01:34:19,460 --> 01:34:19,700
Okay?

2714
01:34:20,780 --> 01:34:23,920
F the system, C-I-S-T-E

2715
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:24,260
-M.

2716
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:27,940
Transphobe, do-it-yourself lobotomy.

2717
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:29,840
There's a guy poking his eye out with

2718
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,300
a knife.

2719
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,800
Babies for trans rights.

2720
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:33,840
Oh, that's a nice one.

2721
01:34:34,420 --> 01:34:36,520
It's not radical to remove rights.

2722
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,660
Transphobes are the dangerous minority.

2723
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,820
You ruled for discrimination, violence, murder, sexual assault,

2724
01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:46,340
harassment of an innocent minority.

2725
01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:47,940
Eat the gender binary.

2726
01:34:47,940 --> 01:34:49,860
Oh, that's a good one.

2727
01:34:50,340 --> 01:34:53,040
Eat the gender binary is a good one.

2728
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:54,580
Eat the gender binary.

2729
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,220
You know, this is in England.

2730
01:34:56,420 --> 01:34:58,840
This is in the UK where these signs

2731
01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,880
are cropping up.

2732
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,000
When did they become so, because I thought

2733
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,500
they were the first ones to start backing

2734
01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:06,080
off on the whole trans thing, and now

2735
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,480
it's all back with a fury?

2736
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,340
Yeah, but it's not trans, John.

2737
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:10,540
It's trans Maoism.

2738
01:35:10,740 --> 01:35:11,920
It's a political thing.

2739
01:35:11,980 --> 01:35:13,340
It has nothing to do with people who

2740
01:35:13,340 --> 01:35:14,540
are trans or whatever.

2741
01:35:14,780 --> 01:35:15,520
It's political.

2742
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,980
This is a political movement of very unhappy

2743
01:35:18,980 --> 01:35:22,500
people who have been hypnotized by COVID.

2744
01:35:27,610 --> 01:35:28,650
On to clip two.

2745
01:35:29,450 --> 01:35:31,250
And if you look down through history, there

2746
01:35:31,250 --> 01:35:33,230
have been social movements, these kind of civic

2747
01:35:33,230 --> 01:35:34,810
uprisings, that have succeeded.

2748
01:35:35,130 --> 01:35:37,010
They've banded together across sectors.

2749
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:39,310
They have a clear, simple message that appeals

2750
01:35:39,310 --> 01:35:40,470
to a lot of different people.

2751
01:35:40,750 --> 01:35:46,450
They use things like lawsuits, protests, boycotts, all

2752
01:35:46,450 --> 01:35:48,770
sorts of things, strikes, anything they can do.

2753
01:35:50,710 --> 01:35:52,250
Shouldn't Brooks get out on front?

2754
01:35:52,370 --> 01:35:54,090
Should he be the first on the barricade?

2755
01:35:54,570 --> 01:35:56,390
Come on, everybody, follow me.

2756
01:35:56,490 --> 01:35:57,130
I'm Brooks.

2757
01:35:57,690 --> 01:35:58,330
I'll tell you what to do.

2758
01:35:58,330 --> 01:35:59,590
Yeah, he should have a big red flag

2759
01:35:59,590 --> 01:36:00,150
on a pole.

2760
01:36:01,310 --> 01:36:03,510
All sorts of things, strikes, anything they can

2761
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:03,810
do.

2762
01:36:04,250 --> 01:36:06,030
But basically, if you're a head of a

2763
01:36:06,030 --> 01:36:07,810
law firm or a university, any of these

2764
01:36:07,810 --> 01:36:09,650
institutions, you're dealing with administrations.

2765
01:36:09,650 --> 01:36:10,970
It's just about raw power.

2766
01:36:11,690 --> 01:36:13,670
Elites of the world, unite behind me.

2767
01:36:13,670 --> 01:36:15,310
So the question you have to ask yourself

2768
01:36:15,310 --> 01:36:17,650
is how do we amass power so they're

2769
01:36:17,650 --> 01:36:19,730
not dividing us, so we're dividing them?

2770
01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:21,890
And that is a mass uprising.

2771
01:36:22,290 --> 01:36:23,830
And the one turning point, if you look

2772
01:36:23,830 --> 01:36:26,110
even at the civil rights movement, when you

2773
01:36:26,110 --> 01:36:28,990
do a nonviolent protest and the people on

2774
01:36:28,990 --> 01:36:31,570
the other side attack you with violence, that

2775
01:36:31,570 --> 01:36:32,410
tends to weaken them.

2776
01:36:32,590 --> 01:36:35,070
And then suddenly you're dividing them, Selma, obviously.

2777
01:36:35,610 --> 01:36:37,470
And so this is the kind of way

2778
01:36:37,470 --> 01:36:38,150
we have to think.

2779
01:36:39,250 --> 01:36:43,150
The great military strategist.

2780
01:36:43,870 --> 01:36:46,130
Has he noticed that the violence is on

2781
01:36:46,130 --> 01:36:47,750
the left and it's always been on the

2782
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:49,210
left and it's on the left now with

2783
01:36:49,210 --> 01:36:51,570
the protests going on and burning the Tesla

2784
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:53,090
dealerships and all the rest of it?

2785
01:36:53,470 --> 01:36:55,070
Has he noticed this or has he just

2786
01:36:55,070 --> 01:36:57,710
ignored that, thinks it's going to be a

2787
01:36:57,710 --> 01:36:58,150
pushback?

2788
01:36:59,130 --> 01:36:59,590
That's necessary.

2789
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:59,910
That's necessary.

2790
01:36:59,910 --> 01:37:01,930
That's necessary for the people to show their

2791
01:37:01,930 --> 01:37:04,210
power against battery cars.

2792
01:37:04,210 --> 01:37:06,670
And so this is the kind of way

2793
01:37:06,670 --> 01:37:08,750
we have to think that it's time not

2794
01:37:08,750 --> 01:37:10,870
just to think, well, maybe he'll look at

2795
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:11,350
the other guy.

2796
01:37:11,670 --> 01:37:12,290
It's time.

2797
01:37:12,370 --> 01:37:13,090
We're all involved.

2798
01:37:13,330 --> 01:37:14,610
We're all in this together and we're going

2799
01:37:14,610 --> 01:37:15,510
to amass power together.

2800
01:37:15,630 --> 01:37:18,150
Jonathan, do you think that that movement, that

2801
01:37:18,150 --> 01:37:20,650
uprising is going to happen?

2802
01:37:20,730 --> 01:37:22,410
I mean, we saw protests recently.

2803
01:37:22,550 --> 01:37:24,350
There are major protests planned for tomorrow.

2804
01:37:25,110 --> 01:37:27,250
Do you think that there is this coalescing

2805
01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:28,770
energy that David is talking about?

2806
01:37:28,930 --> 01:37:30,610
I think it's I think it's happening.

2807
01:37:30,850 --> 01:37:31,570
It's happening.

2808
01:37:31,790 --> 01:37:32,850
I'm out front.

2809
01:37:32,850 --> 01:37:34,490
Come on, girls.

2810
01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:35,870
Let's go.

2811
01:37:36,050 --> 01:37:36,870
It's happening.

2812
01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:38,030
It's happening.

2813
01:37:39,950 --> 01:37:42,430
These people are going to go back home,

2814
01:37:42,530 --> 01:37:44,830
drink their Chardonnay, have their nuts.

2815
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:46,750
That was a great show.

2816
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:47,590
Yes, it was.

2817
01:37:47,830 --> 01:37:49,870
We have the nation behind us.

2818
01:37:49,890 --> 01:37:51,230
Chardonnay is the right.

2819
01:37:51,450 --> 01:37:53,190
Yes, they'll be drinking Chardonnay.

2820
01:37:53,290 --> 01:37:55,470
We have the country behind us.

2821
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:56,170
Yes.

2822
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:56,850
Chard.

2823
01:37:57,870 --> 01:38:00,190
I'm getting text messages from everywhere.

2824
01:38:00,390 --> 01:38:01,190
They so agree.

2825
01:38:01,770 --> 01:38:04,450
Throw off your sweaters.

2826
01:38:04,970 --> 01:38:06,610
Come on, swirl your shard.

2827
01:38:06,610 --> 01:38:07,690
Throw off the cardigan.

2828
01:38:07,770 --> 01:38:10,290
Throw off the cardigan, swirl your shard, and

2829
01:38:10,290 --> 01:38:11,290
let's go, people.

2830
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:14,350
Do they know that they're on the losing

2831
01:38:14,350 --> 01:38:15,070
end of this?

2832
01:38:16,670 --> 01:38:17,190
No.

2833
01:38:18,430 --> 01:38:19,690
What do you think?

2834
01:38:19,810 --> 01:38:20,050
No.

2835
01:38:20,830 --> 01:38:23,070
They're in a dream world, but it's like

2836
01:38:23,070 --> 01:38:26,010
what's so annoying is this is a disservice.

2837
01:38:26,530 --> 01:38:28,110
Listen to these two clowns.

2838
01:38:28,110 --> 01:38:31,290
The only one servicing them is you by

2839
01:38:31,290 --> 01:38:33,410
playing these clips over and over again.

2840
01:38:33,490 --> 01:38:34,650
They're still on the air.

2841
01:38:34,770 --> 01:38:36,630
In fact, they go home, swirl their shard,

2842
01:38:36,710 --> 01:38:39,190
and like, I sure hope John will play

2843
01:38:39,190 --> 01:38:41,730
these clips so we stay relevant in the

2844
01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:42,070
universe.

2845
01:38:42,630 --> 01:38:44,010
That's what's happening here.

2846
01:38:46,150 --> 01:38:47,830
They do a disservice.

2847
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:49,110
This is public broadcasting.

2848
01:38:49,850 --> 01:38:51,130
It's paid for by the government.

2849
01:38:51,210 --> 01:38:53,370
They get a billion dollars from the government

2850
01:38:53,370 --> 01:38:56,130
to do this, and this is what the

2851
01:38:56,130 --> 01:38:57,090
drivel is.

2852
01:38:57,090 --> 01:38:59,090
No, it's also from viewers like you.

2853
01:38:59,930 --> 01:39:01,510
No, it's not from viewers like me.

2854
01:39:02,610 --> 01:39:04,590
I think this is the last of the

2855
01:39:04,590 --> 01:39:04,950
clips.

2856
01:39:05,470 --> 01:39:08,450
And I think it started when people were

2857
01:39:08,450 --> 01:39:10,970
showing up outside of USAID when they were

2858
01:39:10,970 --> 01:39:12,950
going through hell.

2859
01:39:13,130 --> 01:39:16,290
I think we're seeing it in the town

2860
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:19,530
halls in Republican districts so much so that

2861
01:39:19,530 --> 01:39:22,890
the leadership told Republican members of Congress don't

2862
01:39:22,890 --> 01:39:24,330
hold town halls anymore.

2863
01:39:24,330 --> 01:39:27,530
We've seen it with the big rallies in

2864
01:39:27,530 --> 01:39:32,570
red states convened by Senator Bernie Sanders and

2865
01:39:32,570 --> 01:39:34,670
AOC in red states.

2866
01:39:34,670 --> 01:39:36,210
I think just yesterday or two days ago

2867
01:39:36,210 --> 01:39:39,630
in Montana, hundreds if not thousands of people.

2868
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:41,430
And then you look at what's happening.

2869
01:39:41,570 --> 01:39:43,230
And I know the courts and the judges

2870
01:39:43,230 --> 01:39:46,470
are impartial, but they are also part of

2871
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:48,670
this pushing back on what's happening.

2872
01:39:48,670 --> 01:39:51,310
And then for Harvard to do what it

2873
01:39:51,310 --> 01:39:53,470
did, I think sent a message not just

2874
01:39:53,470 --> 01:39:56,170
to university presidents but to the country that

2875
01:39:56,170 --> 01:39:59,490
if Harvard had folded, it would have been

2876
01:39:59,490 --> 01:40:00,690
a devastating thing.

2877
01:40:00,870 --> 01:40:02,030
But it didn't happen.

2878
01:40:02,130 --> 01:40:03,210
And I would just say this one last

2879
01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:03,490
point.

2880
01:40:03,950 --> 01:40:05,290
In Trump 1- Fuck the Joes.

2881
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:09,170
Adam Sore wrote famously the cruelty is the

2882
01:40:09,170 --> 01:40:11,930
point about the first Trump administration.

2883
01:40:11,930 --> 01:40:12,110
Cruelty.

2884
01:40:12,350 --> 01:40:14,370
And I would argue that in Trump 2,

2885
01:40:15,010 --> 01:40:17,110
it's now the cruelty is the policy.

2886
01:40:17,110 --> 01:40:19,010
And I think what we're seeing around the

2887
01:40:19,010 --> 01:40:21,790
country is people pushing back against Trump 2.

2888
01:40:22,370 --> 01:40:24,810
Jonathan Capehart, David Brooks, always good to see

2889
01:40:24,810 --> 01:40:25,130
you both.

2890
01:40:25,230 --> 01:40:25,550
Thank you.

2891
01:40:25,690 --> 01:40:25,870
Thanks.

2892
01:40:26,110 --> 01:40:27,550
Awesome segment, boys.

2893
01:40:27,910 --> 01:40:28,670
Great job.

2894
01:40:28,830 --> 01:40:30,070
Boy, that was so riveting.

2895
01:40:31,870 --> 01:40:32,590
All right.

2896
01:40:32,650 --> 01:40:34,290
Well, let's talk about the town hall.

2897
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:36,170
Cruelty is the policy.

2898
01:40:36,370 --> 01:40:36,850
That's right.

2899
01:40:37,010 --> 01:40:37,830
And it's scary.

2900
01:40:37,950 --> 01:40:40,710
The town halls are scary, very scary.

2901
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:44,650
Even Marjorie Taylor Greene's town halls are just

2902
01:40:44,650 --> 01:40:45,230
scary.

2903
01:40:45,230 --> 01:40:49,430
North of Atlanta, Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene's

2904
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:52,190
town hall had flashes of WrestleMania.

2905
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:52,990
WrestleMania!

2906
01:40:54,030 --> 01:40:59,090
Hostility, jeering, scuffling with security, and a ringmaster,

2907
01:40:59,570 --> 01:41:01,590
Georgia's firebrand congresswoman.

2908
01:41:01,690 --> 01:41:02,930
This is a town hall.

2909
01:41:03,070 --> 01:41:04,510
This is not a political rally.

2910
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:05,970
This is not a protest.

2911
01:41:06,530 --> 01:41:08,090
Three hecklers were arrested.

2912
01:41:08,590 --> 01:41:11,230
Police tasered two of them, including this man.

2913
01:41:11,770 --> 01:41:14,230
These town halls have become so raucous.

2914
01:41:14,230 --> 01:41:16,430
Greene is one of the few Republicans to

2915
01:41:16,430 --> 01:41:18,570
hold one during this congressional recess.

2916
01:41:19,090 --> 01:41:22,530
Their national party has suggested members hold virtual

2917
01:41:22,530 --> 01:41:23,590
town halls instead.

2918
01:41:23,930 --> 01:41:27,230
Already in three months, we've got more emails

2919
01:41:27,230 --> 01:41:28,610
than all of last year.

2920
01:41:28,850 --> 01:41:29,770
What does that tell you?

2921
01:41:30,050 --> 01:41:32,310
For an hour in Iowa, a room full

2922
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:35,630
of Senator Charles Grassley's constituents ganged up on

2923
01:41:35,630 --> 01:41:37,470
the 91-year-old Republican.

2924
01:41:37,710 --> 01:41:38,890
Yeah, we showed him.

2925
01:41:38,990 --> 01:41:39,810
Come on, Dems.

2926
01:41:39,850 --> 01:41:40,670
Do your jobs.

2927
01:41:40,830 --> 01:41:41,010
Yeah.

2928
01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:41,730
Yeah.

2929
01:41:42,370 --> 01:41:44,130
Do your job, man.

2930
01:41:44,130 --> 01:41:45,370
Did you see this guy who was sitting

2931
01:41:45,370 --> 01:41:45,830
back?

2932
01:41:45,890 --> 01:41:49,210
He's like, this was far from WrestleMania.

2933
01:41:49,690 --> 01:41:51,310
Do your job, man.

2934
01:41:51,390 --> 01:41:52,250
Hey, man, do your job.

2935
01:41:52,530 --> 01:41:53,410
Do your jobs.

2936
01:41:53,610 --> 01:41:53,850
Yeah.

2937
01:41:54,570 --> 01:41:55,050
Yeah.

2938
01:41:55,790 --> 01:41:57,150
Yeah, man, do your job.

2939
01:41:58,030 --> 01:42:01,090
They're furious, and they want answers on issues

2940
01:42:01,090 --> 01:42:03,130
from Social Security to deportations.

2941
01:42:04,030 --> 01:42:05,690
Are you going to bring that guy back

2942
01:42:05,690 --> 01:42:07,310
from El Salvador?

2943
01:42:07,790 --> 01:42:09,670
Bring that guy back, you know, the one

2944
01:42:09,670 --> 01:42:10,670
from El Salvador?

2945
01:42:11,210 --> 01:42:11,690
Yeah.

2946
01:42:12,330 --> 01:42:12,810
Yeah.

2947
01:42:13,070 --> 01:42:13,350
Yeah.

2948
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:13,550
Yeah.

2949
01:42:15,010 --> 01:42:15,610
Woo.

2950
01:42:15,930 --> 01:42:16,730
Why not?

2951
01:42:17,290 --> 01:42:20,870
Well, because that's not the power of Congress.

2952
01:42:21,130 --> 01:42:21,770
Poor dude.

2953
01:42:22,770 --> 01:42:23,730
That's not it.

2954
01:42:24,070 --> 01:42:25,210
What's going on?

2955
01:42:25,510 --> 01:42:26,650
Who are these people?

2956
01:42:26,910 --> 01:42:28,290
Did someone bust them in?

2957
01:42:28,350 --> 01:42:29,350
Why, yes.

2958
01:42:29,470 --> 01:42:30,190
Yes, they did.

2959
01:42:30,590 --> 01:42:31,730
Happened to Murkowski, too.

2960
01:42:31,810 --> 01:42:34,790
In these moments, some people clearly seem scared.

2961
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:39,110
Alaska's Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski made this extraordinary

2962
01:42:39,110 --> 01:42:39,730
admission.

2963
01:42:39,930 --> 01:42:40,790
We are all afraid.

2964
01:42:43,230 --> 01:42:45,110
I'm oftentimes very- In a bucket.

2965
01:42:46,190 --> 01:42:48,490
Well, yes, she's a town hall in a

2966
01:42:48,490 --> 01:42:48,730
bucket.

2967
01:42:48,890 --> 01:42:49,730
Yes, I'm afraid.

2968
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:56,190
I'm anxious myself about using my voice because

2969
01:42:56,190 --> 01:42:58,630
retaliation is real.

2970
01:42:58,870 --> 01:43:01,590
And it's not just Republicans getting an earful

2971
01:43:01,590 --> 01:43:02,630
from their constituents.

2972
01:43:02,970 --> 01:43:04,810
I don't think that you have fought hard

2973
01:43:04,810 --> 01:43:05,110
enough.

2974
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:09,050
Democratic Representative Laura Friedman got the same message

2975
01:43:09,050 --> 01:43:10,270
from Californians.

2976
01:43:13,610 --> 01:43:15,570
Okay, please sit down.

2977
01:43:15,670 --> 01:43:17,610
We have a lot of questions I want

2978
01:43:17,610 --> 01:43:18,130
to get through.

2979
01:43:18,410 --> 01:43:18,930
Do more.

2980
01:43:19,190 --> 01:43:20,010
Fight harder.

2981
01:43:20,490 --> 01:43:22,590
And yet there's this reality check.

2982
01:43:23,170 --> 01:43:26,310
The president's approval rating stands at 47%

2983
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:29,370
in our recent CBS News poll, higher than

2984
01:43:29,370 --> 01:43:31,530
at any point during his first term.

2985
01:43:31,670 --> 01:43:33,030
That was a great statistic.

2986
01:43:33,330 --> 01:43:35,110
I didn't expect him to do that.

2987
01:43:36,370 --> 01:43:39,190
47% approval rating, higher than his first

2988
01:43:39,190 --> 01:43:39,550
term.

2989
01:43:39,650 --> 01:43:40,530
It's getting worse.

2990
01:43:42,630 --> 01:43:43,950
I've noticed this.

2991
01:43:44,010 --> 01:43:45,770
I think they're doing that to try to

2992
01:43:45,770 --> 01:43:47,390
rile up the Democrats.

2993
01:43:48,230 --> 01:43:48,970
Oh, totally.

2994
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:50,890
That's what you do.

2995
01:43:51,170 --> 01:43:52,410
He's getting more popular.

2996
01:43:52,590 --> 01:43:53,410
We have to do more.

2997
01:43:53,570 --> 01:43:54,210
Be crazier.

2998
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:55,330
Do more.

2999
01:43:56,730 --> 01:43:57,770
Be crazier.

3000
01:43:57,950 --> 01:43:58,350
That's it.

3001
01:43:58,770 --> 01:43:59,390
Be crazier.

3002
01:43:59,730 --> 01:44:00,770
We're CBS News.

3003
01:44:00,970 --> 01:44:02,890
Be crazier because this is great.

3004
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:04,150
It's easy for us.

3005
01:44:04,510 --> 01:44:06,150
All we have to do is film it.

3006
01:44:06,250 --> 01:44:07,130
It's good news.

3007
01:44:07,130 --> 01:44:09,230
It gets people to watch the show, our

3008
01:44:09,230 --> 01:44:10,250
dying shows.

3009
01:44:11,110 --> 01:44:11,270
Yeah.

3010
01:44:12,010 --> 01:44:12,950
It's a good idea.

3011
01:44:13,090 --> 01:44:14,270
I think it's smart.

3012
01:44:14,610 --> 01:44:15,310
I think they could do a little bit

3013
01:44:15,310 --> 01:44:16,190
better on the audio.

3014
01:44:16,970 --> 01:44:19,130
I'm disappointed in CBS with their audio.

3015
01:44:20,110 --> 01:44:21,650
You know, some of the audio and the

3016
01:44:21,650 --> 01:44:23,110
fact that they, you know, you can clean

3017
01:44:23,110 --> 01:44:24,530
up that Murkowski clip.

3018
01:44:24,850 --> 01:44:25,470
Somewhat, yeah.

3019
01:44:27,190 --> 01:44:28,250
But nobody's done it.

3020
01:44:28,370 --> 01:44:29,970
So every time you hear it, you can't.

3021
01:44:30,010 --> 01:44:32,890
I could have used something that had that

3022
01:44:32,890 --> 01:44:34,470
clip in there, but I thought the clip

3023
01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:35,590
was, you can't hear her.

3024
01:44:35,610 --> 01:44:36,270
It's unusable.

3025
01:44:36,270 --> 01:44:36,810
I know.

3026
01:44:37,070 --> 01:44:38,430
I can't believe I played it.

3027
01:44:38,510 --> 01:44:39,150
I apologize.

3028
01:44:39,230 --> 01:44:42,210
I'm stunned that you played it.

3029
01:44:42,290 --> 01:44:42,650
All right.

3030
01:44:42,710 --> 01:44:44,030
I'm going to play something different.

3031
01:44:44,170 --> 01:44:45,650
I got to shift gears here for a

3032
01:44:45,650 --> 01:44:45,790
second.

3033
01:44:45,930 --> 01:44:48,010
It is, of course, Easter today.

3034
01:44:48,650 --> 01:44:50,910
Please take note, Adam and John working on

3035
01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:51,170
Easter.

3036
01:44:52,190 --> 01:44:53,150
Oh, that's right.

3037
01:44:53,250 --> 01:44:54,650
You know, I forgot to milk that.

3038
01:44:54,730 --> 01:44:55,230
That's true.

3039
01:44:55,310 --> 01:44:56,130
We're working.

3040
01:44:56,210 --> 01:44:57,530
Yes, you did not milk it.

3041
01:44:57,550 --> 01:44:59,590
On Easter Sunday again.

3042
01:44:59,930 --> 01:45:02,410
I think we've worked every Easter ever.

3043
01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:05,570
Well, it's a Sunday, you typically.

3044
01:45:05,570 --> 01:45:06,250
I believe so, yes.

3045
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:07,550
I believe so.

3046
01:45:07,970 --> 01:45:09,730
I don't think we've taken any.

3047
01:45:09,950 --> 01:45:10,050
Yeah.

3048
01:45:10,590 --> 01:45:11,550
No, no, no.

3049
01:45:11,970 --> 01:45:13,290
Who else can say that?

3050
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:13,690
Nobody.

3051
01:45:14,210 --> 01:45:15,650
No, no, no, no.

3052
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,860
So this comes from Frau Ingraham's show, The

3053
01:45:21,860 --> 01:45:22,840
Ingraham Report.

3054
01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:25,580
And so I wanted to play this just

3055
01:45:25,580 --> 01:45:28,500
as a good news, a Jesus-free clip.

3056
01:45:28,820 --> 01:45:31,360
But then I thought, wait, wait, this is

3057
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:36,180
actually a put-down on the famous Dana

3058
01:45:36,180 --> 01:45:36,680
Brunetti.

3059
01:45:37,740 --> 01:45:42,460
Dana Brunetti, the producer of major box office

3060
01:45:42,460 --> 01:45:47,040
smashes, such as Gran Turismo, such as House

3061
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,700
of Cards, such as Fifty Shades of Grey

3062
01:45:49,700 --> 01:45:51,240
and Fifty Shades of Greyer.

3063
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:53,740
And he will not listen to me.

3064
01:45:53,740 --> 01:45:55,460
Must have been the social network.

3065
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,020
The social network.

3066
01:45:57,820 --> 01:45:59,340
I mean, these were huge hits.

3067
01:45:59,340 --> 01:46:01,040
Captain Phillips, I think, is one of his

3068
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:01,540
big hits.

3069
01:46:02,220 --> 01:46:02,900
With Tom Hanks?

3070
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:03,820
Yeah.

3071
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:04,740
Interesting.

3072
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:05,700
Mm-hmm.

3073
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:08,160
I wonder if Brunetti's ever been to the

3074
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,180
island with Tom.

3075
01:46:10,620 --> 01:46:11,520
Probably not.

3076
01:46:12,460 --> 01:46:14,340
Anyway, he will not listen to me.

3077
01:46:14,860 --> 01:46:16,740
I tell him, you know, his career is

3078
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:17,280
in a slump.

3079
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:18,560
Hollywood hates him.

3080
01:46:19,060 --> 01:46:19,900
He's retired.

3081
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:20,600
Hello.

3082
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:22,960
I'm defending Dana Brunetti.

3083
01:46:23,060 --> 01:46:25,020
You're never retired from show business.

3084
01:46:25,460 --> 01:46:27,020
You're always looking for your next hit.

3085
01:46:27,020 --> 01:46:27,260
Not the CIA.

3086
01:46:27,260 --> 01:46:29,900
You're always looking for your next hit.

3087
01:46:30,340 --> 01:46:32,660
You always want to have that one more

3088
01:46:32,660 --> 01:46:33,080
time.

3089
01:46:33,140 --> 01:46:34,500
I want to get in the game one

3090
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:35,060
more time.

3091
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,240
I have told him time and time again,

3092
01:46:37,380 --> 01:46:38,920
but he will not listen to me.

3093
01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:41,940
The way to go is Jesus, Dana Brunetti.

3094
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,380
This Good Friday, a note of hope.

3095
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,480
It's no secret that people have been writing

3096
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:49,440
the obituary of Christianity since Jesus was nailed

3097
01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:50,140
to the cross.

3098
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:51,560
Have you been to the movies recently?

3099
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,080
Some of the biggest box office winners in

3100
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,360
recent weeks, The King of Kings and The

3101
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:57,540
Chosen Last Supper.

3102
01:46:57,940 --> 01:47:00,540
Why are Jesus movies beating Disney releases?

3103
01:47:00,900 --> 01:47:02,480
Because there's a yearning for truth.

3104
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:03,860
Because Disney releases suck.

3105
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:05,720
And community rooted in that truth.

3106
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,960
On Amazon, House of David, based on King

3107
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:09,920
David's life, was one of the most watched

3108
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,280
new releases for the streamer.

3109
01:47:11,580 --> 01:47:14,400
And there's huge excitement building around Mel Gibson's

3110
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,660
forthcoming sequel to The Passion of the Christ,

3111
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,080
20 years after that blockbuster.

3112
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,120
The Passion of the Christ 2.

3113
01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:20,800
That's right.

3114
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:22,360
It just kept on going.

3115
01:47:22,440 --> 01:47:22,980
Everything up.

3116
01:47:22,980 --> 01:47:25,220
And churches, in case you haven't been paying

3117
01:47:25,220 --> 01:47:28,020
attention, are packed this Holy Week.

3118
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:30,920
The National Catholic Register is reporting across the

3119
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,940
country, dioceses are seeing annual increases in new

3120
01:47:34,940 --> 01:47:38,440
converts of 30 to 70 percent.

3121
01:47:38,580 --> 01:47:39,300
That's up.

3122
01:47:39,420 --> 01:47:41,640
I'm reading similar reports in England and France.

3123
01:47:41,780 --> 01:47:43,760
And even in Washington, D.C., there's a

3124
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:46,600
pronounced effort to demonstrate faith these days in

3125
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:47,760
a way you just didn't see a few

3126
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:48,200
years ago.

3127
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,220
President Trump has made a habit of inviting

3128
01:47:50,220 --> 01:47:53,740
pastors of various denominations to pray with him

3129
01:47:53,740 --> 01:47:54,600
in the Oval Office.

3130
01:47:54,700 --> 01:47:56,860
Earlier this week, the president held an Easter

3131
01:47:56,860 --> 01:47:59,680
prayer service and dinner at the White House.

3132
01:47:59,820 --> 01:48:01,940
As we gather with family and friends, we'll

3133
01:48:01,940 --> 01:48:04,180
not forget the true source of our joy

3134
01:48:04,180 --> 01:48:04,900
and our strength.

3135
01:48:05,060 --> 01:48:06,900
America has put our trust in God.

3136
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,880
It will always be in God we trust.

3137
01:48:09,980 --> 01:48:11,160
We will never change that.

3138
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:14,220
What you are seeing is the normalization of

3139
01:48:14,220 --> 01:48:15,620
faith across the culture.

3140
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,980
In pop culture, in government, it's like a

3141
01:48:17,980 --> 01:48:18,560
green light.

3142
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,920
That one can, with calm and confidence, express

3143
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:25,220
faith without fear of recriminations in the way

3144
01:48:25,220 --> 01:48:26,620
the founders intended.

3145
01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:29,160
And it's a message that those Gen Zers

3146
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:30,880
who are going to be baptized this weekend

3147
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,540
seem to be responding to.

3148
01:48:32,780 --> 01:48:34,020
Get on the train, Brunetti.

3149
01:48:34,860 --> 01:48:35,960
Get on the train.

3150
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:37,640
Jesus is tripping.

3151
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,680
How does this report jive with all the

3152
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:44,080
anti-Christian stories that are coming?

3153
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:45,660
You know, all the Christians, they got to

3154
01:48:45,660 --> 01:48:48,880
do this, they're under attack, everyone hates them.

3155
01:48:49,900 --> 01:48:50,660
How would they make that?

3156
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,080
Where's your report?

3157
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:55,680
Where's your report?

3158
01:48:55,820 --> 01:48:57,160
Well, I don't have a report on this.

3159
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,100
Next show, I'll have a dozen clips.

3160
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:01,480
Okay, bring it on.

3161
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,240
I bet you can't find a dozen.

3162
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,600
Well, I'm not going to find a dozen.

3163
01:49:07,700 --> 01:49:08,780
Oh, okay, there you go.

3164
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,780
But I'll find enough.

3165
01:49:10,460 --> 01:49:12,520
No, people are becoming bold in their faith,

3166
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:12,860
John.

3167
01:49:12,900 --> 01:49:13,500
This is good.

3168
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:16,580
And the movies, and, you know, you said

3169
01:49:16,580 --> 01:49:19,220
it yourself, the president sets the tone for

3170
01:49:19,220 --> 01:49:19,680
the country.

3171
01:49:21,740 --> 01:49:22,900
That's what's going on.

3172
01:49:23,380 --> 01:49:27,660
When he starts watching those movies, that will

3173
01:49:27,660 --> 01:49:28,440
make a difference.

3174
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:29,440
He's going to go to the premiere.

3175
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,560
The premiere of what?

3176
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,780
Of Mel Gibson's The Passion, the sequel.

3177
01:49:34,700 --> 01:49:36,540
The Passion of the Christ 2.

3178
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:37,560
Yes, the sequel.

3179
01:49:38,220 --> 01:49:39,660
It's going to be worse.

3180
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:42,340
That was a very, very stressful movie.

3181
01:49:42,340 --> 01:49:44,600
The first movie was all in Aramaic.

3182
01:49:45,140 --> 01:49:49,340
Yeah, but you cannot say it wasn't very

3183
01:49:49,340 --> 01:49:49,940
successful.

3184
01:49:50,980 --> 01:49:52,580
It was one of the biggest grossing movies

3185
01:49:52,580 --> 01:49:53,500
of all time, I think.

3186
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:54,740
I think it did, like, 800...

3187
01:49:54,740 --> 01:49:55,540
Unwatchable.

3188
01:49:55,940 --> 01:49:56,940
Oh, I loved it.

3189
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,000
$800 billion.

3190
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:00,900
You can't watch anything.

3191
01:50:01,420 --> 01:50:01,540
$800 billion.

3192
01:50:01,740 --> 01:50:03,740
It was $800 billion.

3193
01:50:03,860 --> 01:50:04,980
Okay, hold on a second.

3194
01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:06,700
It was not $800 billion.

3195
01:50:06,700 --> 01:50:11,900
It was the box office for Passion of

3196
01:50:11,900 --> 01:50:12,520
the Christ.

3197
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,120
I'm going to ask your favorite AI.

3198
01:50:17,580 --> 01:50:18,820
Okay, you're right.

3199
01:50:19,540 --> 01:50:20,500
$612 billion.

3200
01:50:21,420 --> 01:50:23,100
No, it was million, but it was close.

3201
01:50:24,820 --> 01:50:29,040
Yes, $612 million is not $800 billion.

3202
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:30,760
But that's okay.

3203
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:31,840
I like the way you think.

3204
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,380
You're just like you're in a dream world.

3205
01:50:35,140 --> 01:50:37,300
No, I'm in reality, my friend.

3206
01:50:37,540 --> 01:50:38,360
I'm in reality.

3207
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:42,780
Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum,

3208
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,220
on the social networks, things not looking too

3209
01:50:45,220 --> 01:50:45,460
good.

3210
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:47,280
We've got lawsuits happening everywhere.

3211
01:50:47,620 --> 01:50:49,620
What started as a chat app for gamers

3212
01:50:49,620 --> 01:50:51,980
has become a playground for child predators.

3213
01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:54,480
That's what the New Jersey Attorney General alleges

3214
01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:55,140
of Discord.

3215
01:50:55,580 --> 01:50:59,280
Discord appeals to online predators who use the

3216
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,320
app to sexually exploit children.

3217
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,460
New Jersey is now the first state to

3218
01:51:03,460 --> 01:51:03,980
sue Discord.

3219
01:51:04,420 --> 01:51:06,460
You know what Discord is, don't you?

3220
01:51:08,060 --> 01:51:09,040
I think I do.

3221
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:10,180
I don't use Discord.

3222
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:11,420
I don't know Discord.

3223
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,820
Well, Discord is very popular.

3224
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,240
It's more popular than Snapchat?

3225
01:51:18,580 --> 01:51:20,680
It's more popular than WhatsApp?

3226
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:22,500
It's popular.

3227
01:51:22,660 --> 01:51:23,840
It's more popular than Signal?

3228
01:51:24,140 --> 01:51:25,820
It's more popular than Telegram?

3229
01:51:25,820 --> 01:51:29,220
What you're saying, we just keep on spouting,

3230
01:51:29,380 --> 01:51:30,360
is not comparable.

3231
01:51:31,660 --> 01:51:34,360
A Discord server is not just a chat.

3232
01:51:34,860 --> 01:51:36,360
It has files.

3233
01:51:36,660 --> 01:51:37,880
It has all kinds of – it has

3234
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:38,840
different functions.

3235
01:51:40,620 --> 01:51:42,660
A lot of them are used by spooks.

3236
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,380
It was a big gamer thing.

3237
01:51:44,500 --> 01:51:45,780
You could share – that's where you could

3238
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:46,860
also buy stuff.

3239
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:51,020
You could buy your in-game gear.

3240
01:51:51,900 --> 01:51:53,620
That's why they say it's a server.

3241
01:51:54,340 --> 01:51:55,780
And I think it's even open source.

3242
01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:00,320
But the company, Discord, is very successful.

3243
01:52:01,780 --> 01:52:03,100
They're making a lot of money.

3244
01:52:03,340 --> 01:52:04,100
And they're in trouble.

3245
01:52:04,300 --> 01:52:05,980
New Jersey is now the first state to

3246
01:52:05,980 --> 01:52:08,500
sue Discord, alleging it does not provide a

3247
01:52:08,500 --> 01:52:10,040
safe environment for kids.

3248
01:52:10,380 --> 01:52:12,920
The app, with over 200 million monthly users,

3249
01:52:13,260 --> 01:52:15,440
operates as a series of chat rooms known

3250
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:16,120
as servers.

3251
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,180
Attorney General Matthew Plattken says a number of

3252
01:52:19,180 --> 01:52:22,080
the people in those servers are adults communicating

3253
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:22,940
with children.

3254
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:26,660
Plattken blames Discord's default settings, which allow anyone

3255
01:52:26,660 --> 01:52:27,940
to friend anyone.

3256
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:32,300
There's very little to prevent kids from connecting

3257
01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:34,760
with and receiving messages from complete strangers.

3258
01:52:34,940 --> 01:52:37,400
The attorney general's office points to several child

3259
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,620
predator cases it prosecuted with links to Discord.

3260
01:52:40,900 --> 01:52:42,820
Predators that were found to have used the

3261
01:52:42,820 --> 01:52:47,780
app to engage in sexual grooming, extortion, and

3262
01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:48,380
exploitation.

3263
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,860
The AG's office also says Discord misled parents

3264
01:52:51,860 --> 01:52:54,140
about a feature called safe direct messaging.

3265
01:52:54,500 --> 01:52:58,220
Discord said safe direct messaging would scan direct

3266
01:52:58,220 --> 01:53:00,840
messages and delete those with explicit content.

3267
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,000
But Discord knew that wasn't true.

3268
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,780
The attorney general's office also alleges Discord is

3269
01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:09,300
a breathing ground for extremists and racist content.

3270
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:12,740
White nationalists organized a 2017 Unite the Right

3271
01:53:12,740 --> 01:53:13,800
rally on Discord.

3272
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,440
The New Jersey attorney general's office sued Meta

3273
01:53:16,440 --> 01:53:19,160
in 2023 and TikTok in 2024.

3274
01:53:19,900 --> 01:53:22,780
Discord, now the latest social media site, called

3275
01:53:22,780 --> 01:53:23,360
to court.

3276
01:53:23,620 --> 01:53:25,240
We are now in a position to lead

3277
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:25,760
nationally.

3278
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,120
The New Jersey attorney general is seeking civil

3279
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,920
penalties as well as an injunction against Discord

3280
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,480
and an order that Discord give back any

3281
01:53:33,480 --> 01:53:35,500
profits that were generated in New Jersey.

3282
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:40,140
So, of course, this is parents moving, you

3283
01:53:40,140 --> 01:53:42,080
know, shoving their own responsibility out of the

3284
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:42,280
way.

3285
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,180
You've got to take away these phones from

3286
01:53:44,180 --> 01:53:44,740
these kids.

3287
01:53:45,380 --> 01:53:46,100
Just no.

3288
01:53:46,940 --> 01:53:49,080
Organize with your school, no phones for these

3289
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:49,360
kids.

3290
01:53:49,480 --> 01:53:49,880
Stop.

3291
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:51,000
It's all dumb.

3292
01:53:51,020 --> 01:53:53,400
How do you get the kids...

3293
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,160
You know, I'm still stunned by the fact

3294
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,620
that kids can be on their phones in

3295
01:53:58,620 --> 01:53:59,360
a classroom.

3296
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:01,260
Yeah, that's ending.

3297
01:54:01,620 --> 01:54:02,560
And there's a lot of...

3298
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,460
Well, it's barely ending, and everyone's bitching about

3299
01:54:05,460 --> 01:54:05,680
it.

3300
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:07,520
It's like it should have never begun.

3301
01:54:08,180 --> 01:54:09,480
When I was a kid...

3302
01:54:09,480 --> 01:54:09,960
Oh, boy.

3303
01:54:10,060 --> 01:54:10,580
Here we go.

3304
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:12,340
Yeah.

3305
01:54:12,420 --> 01:54:13,420
This reminds me of...

3306
01:54:13,420 --> 01:54:15,680
When you were a kid, your parents kept

3307
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:16,600
you in the drawer.

3308
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,200
When I was a kid, I remember...

3309
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:22,060
There was two things that...

3310
01:54:22,060 --> 01:54:24,060
There was interesting switch over.

3311
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:24,780
There was like...

3312
01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:26,000
When I was a kid, it was a

3313
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,740
big deal that kids got caught smoking in

3314
01:54:29,740 --> 01:54:30,340
the bathroom.

3315
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:31,360
Ooh, yes.

3316
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:32,660
By the time I was out of college,

3317
01:54:32,860 --> 01:54:34,600
it was like, oh, no, nobody smokes in

3318
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,380
there, but they smoked pot in the bathroom.

3319
01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:38,040
Now, all of a sudden, they went from

3320
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,460
smoking cigarettes to pot in the bathroom.

3321
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,380
When I was a kid, it was like

3322
01:54:44,380 --> 01:54:48,300
verboten to have a handheld calculator like an

3323
01:54:48,300 --> 01:54:48,720
HP.

3324
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:49,680
Yes.

3325
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:51,900
You couldn't...

3326
01:54:51,900 --> 01:54:53,980
You remember this too, don't you, Boomer?

3327
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:54,560
Yeah.

3328
01:54:55,300 --> 01:54:57,700
And then you had your watch, and you

3329
01:54:57,700 --> 01:54:59,060
had a little Casio watch with a little

3330
01:54:59,060 --> 01:55:01,360
pen, and had a calculator on it.

3331
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,080
You could tap the little numbers with the

3332
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:04,300
pen on the watch face.

3333
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:04,840
Remember that?

3334
01:55:05,580 --> 01:55:07,040
No, I don't remember that, but I can

3335
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:08,540
see people doing it.

3336
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:11,300
Yeah.

3337
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,880
So you've gone from, no, you can't have

3338
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,380
a calculator in the classroom because it's cheating,

3339
01:55:17,780 --> 01:55:18,880
to, oh, yeah, you're going to have a

3340
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,880
phone where you could get with the internet

3341
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,220
in your hand.

3342
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:24,860
You can look anything up.

3343
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,380
But it's because the parents, the kids that

3344
01:55:28,380 --> 01:55:32,320
you produced, the Boomer generation, the parents are

3345
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,420
like, I have to be in touch with

3346
01:55:34,420 --> 01:55:34,740
my...

3347
01:55:34,740 --> 01:55:35,220
Bless you.

3348
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:36,640
I have to be in touch with my

3349
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:40,140
child if my son doesn't feel well.

3350
01:55:40,540 --> 01:55:42,080
That was never us.

3351
01:55:42,220 --> 01:55:44,740
No, we went to the nurse, and the

3352
01:55:44,740 --> 01:55:46,400
nurse said, sit here, lay down.

3353
01:55:46,540 --> 01:55:47,200
He's an aspirin.

3354
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:48,580
I know.

3355
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:49,480
I know.

3356
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:50,040
I know.

3357
01:55:51,420 --> 01:55:53,040
Meanwhile, more lawsuits.

3358
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:54,360
Facebook.

3359
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,520
PayPal or Venmo accounts, you might have some

3360
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,100
money from Facebook inside.

3361
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:03,060
Facebook started sending out $40.67 payments to

3362
01:56:03,060 --> 01:56:05,760
users as part of a class action lawsuit

3363
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:06,320
over its mic button.

3364
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:06,780
Where's my money?

3365
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,160
The suit claimed that Facebook used cookies to

3366
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,380
track users even when they were logged out

3367
01:56:11,380 --> 01:56:12,400
or using other websites.

3368
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,860
Facebook agreed to settle the suit but did

3369
01:56:14,860 --> 01:56:16,800
not admit to any wrongdoing.

3370
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:17,880
They got to end that, too.

3371
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:19,400
They should have to repent.

3372
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:20,520
We did it.

3373
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:21,280
We're sorry.

3374
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:22,020
Here's your $40.

3375
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,760
They should be forced to admit wrongdoing.

3376
01:56:25,820 --> 01:56:28,280
And Google, also on the block for the

3377
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,480
millionth time, of which, of course, just a

3378
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,160
fine will be paid and nothing else will

3379
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:32,500
happen.

3380
01:56:32,620 --> 01:56:34,400
This is really a big blow to the

3381
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:34,780
company.

3382
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:35,320
A big blow.

3383
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:36,940
The U.S. judge in the state of

3384
01:56:36,940 --> 01:56:39,480
Virginia essentially saying that Google held an illegal

3385
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,580
monopoly over key parts of the online advertising

3386
01:56:42,580 --> 01:56:43,240
market.

3387
01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:45,820
Now, this all stemmed from a lawsuit from

3388
01:56:45,820 --> 01:56:47,560
the U.S. Justice Department as well as

3389
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,340
17 individual U.S. states that argue that

3390
01:56:50,340 --> 01:56:53,280
Google dominated three essential tools in ad tech,

3391
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,820
namely publisher ad servers, ad exchanges, and tools

3392
01:56:56,820 --> 01:56:57,980
used by advertisers.

3393
01:56:58,140 --> 01:57:00,180
Picture any website that you use that has

3394
01:57:00,180 --> 01:57:00,780
advertising.

3395
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:02,760
Look at the top banner, the banners on

3396
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:03,400
the left and the right.

3397
01:57:03,460 --> 01:57:05,920
These all come from deals that Google strikes

3398
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,960
with advertisers who then are allowed to place

3399
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,920
their ads on millions and millions of websites

3400
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:12,240
across the Internet.

3401
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,680
Now, the court agreed partially, saying the company

3402
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,600
locked in publishers and blocked out rivals.

3403
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,160
The judge also ruled that Google removed key

3404
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:23,200
product features and forced customers to stick with

3405
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,900
its tools, which in turn hurt competitors and

3406
01:57:25,900 --> 01:57:28,400
the competition and customers.

3407
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,380
Google has denied hurting the market, saying that

3408
01:57:31,380 --> 01:57:33,360
it will appeal the judgment in a statement

3409
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,480
saying that it did win half the case

3410
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:37,140
today and it will go on to win

3411
01:57:37,140 --> 01:57:37,960
the other half.

3412
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:39,820
It's such a racket those guys have.

3413
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:41,260
They have the buy side, they have the

3414
01:57:41,260 --> 01:57:43,120
sell side, they got the tools, they got

3415
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:43,660
everything.

3416
01:57:44,540 --> 01:57:45,020
Everything.

3417
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:47,780
This is total scam.

3418
01:57:47,780 --> 01:57:48,480
Yeah, they figured it out.

3419
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:49,740
Total scam.

3420
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:51,700
Total scam.

3421
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:54,160
And my final, and this is, we have

3422
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,740
talked about this for well over a decade.

3423
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:58,760
We have warned about this.

3424
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,260
We probably have even framed it as such.

3425
01:58:01,740 --> 01:58:05,160
The best jail, the best jail, is the

3426
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:07,500
one that you let the inmates build themselves.

3427
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:09,080
And we are here.

3428
01:58:09,460 --> 01:58:11,560
Some police departments are using a new tool,

3429
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,740
those home doorbell cams, to create a crime

3430
01:58:14,740 --> 01:58:16,320
-fighting camera network.

3431
01:58:16,500 --> 01:58:19,740
But as Steven Romo reports, the privacy questions

3432
01:58:19,740 --> 01:58:21,300
have some critics concerned.

3433
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,800
Across the country, crimes are being caught on

3434
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:30,380
doorbell and surveillance cameras every day.

3435
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,540
Now, more and more police departments are leaning

3436
01:58:35,540 --> 01:58:39,320
into this technology, getting homeowners and businesses to

3437
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:41,600
share their video with local law enforcement.

3438
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,340
The goal, to create a network of cameras

3439
01:58:44,340 --> 01:58:45,500
to fight crime.

3440
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,240
We're seeing more frequent apprehensions and faster apprehensions

3441
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:49,780
of suspects.

3442
01:58:50,340 --> 01:58:53,180
In Washington, D.C., their Camera Connect program

3443
01:58:53,180 --> 01:58:56,740
and Realtime Crime Center launched early last year.

3444
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,220
In that time, they've seen a 35%

3445
01:58:59,220 --> 01:59:02,760
reduction in violent crime, a 30-year low.

3446
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,100
And they say the tens of thousands of

3447
01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:08,160
new camera registrations they've had so far will

3448
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:10,660
be an important tool to continue that trend.

3449
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,500
This program allows for those that wish to

3450
01:59:14,500 --> 01:59:16,900
provide information to us to remain anonymous.

3451
01:59:16,900 --> 01:59:19,160
And it makes it more of a comfortable

3452
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:22,860
interaction rather than having an officer knocking on

3453
01:59:22,860 --> 01:59:23,280
your door.

3454
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,800
This is so bad.

3455
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,240
And part of it is because people just

3456
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:30,500
love capturing this stuff on their cameras.

3457
01:59:30,660 --> 01:59:32,240
Like, oh, I can't wait to post that

3458
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:32,760
to TikTok.

3459
01:59:33,460 --> 01:59:34,880
Oh, look, I caught a fight.

3460
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:36,320
I put it on X.

3461
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:37,300
It's true.

3462
01:59:37,300 --> 01:59:38,500
Look, there's a rat.

3463
01:59:38,660 --> 01:59:40,440
Oh, that plane fell out of the sky.

3464
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:41,440
The rat.

3465
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:43,200
That plane fell out of the sky.

3466
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:43,880
I had it.

3467
01:59:43,940 --> 01:59:44,520
I had it.

3468
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:45,360
I'm on the news.

3469
01:59:45,580 --> 01:59:48,540
Similar programs are in place in jurisdictions coast

3470
01:59:48,540 --> 01:59:49,140
to coast.

3471
01:59:49,580 --> 01:59:51,680
And while the rules can vary, it generally

3472
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:52,960
works like this.

3473
01:59:53,220 --> 01:59:55,540
When homeowners register, they can join a list

3474
01:59:55,540 --> 01:59:58,300
of available cameras that law enforcement can turn

3475
01:59:58,300 --> 01:59:59,640
to in an investigation.

3476
02:00:00,500 --> 02:00:02,940
Police can request video from them, and the

3477
02:00:02,940 --> 02:00:05,440
homeowner can then choose whether to provide that

3478
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:06,700
video or not.

3479
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,080
Yeah, you want to send that to us,

3480
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:09,560
don't you?

3481
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,220
I mean, you wouldn't want to hold back

3482
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:12,480
any evidence, would you?

3483
02:00:12,540 --> 02:00:13,400
I mean, seriously.

3484
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:14,900
I mean, I think it's probably a good

3485
02:00:14,900 --> 02:00:16,680
idea if you give that footage to us,

3486
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:17,400
don't you think?

3487
02:00:17,860 --> 02:00:19,500
Businesses that sign up can take it a

3488
02:00:19,500 --> 02:00:20,060
step further.

3489
02:00:20,540 --> 02:00:22,860
They can opt in and provide their live

3490
02:00:22,860 --> 02:00:26,520
surveillance feeds, giving police departments access to their

3491
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:27,940
cameras in real time.

3492
02:00:28,260 --> 02:00:31,280
And while police say they've seen success, privacy

3493
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:34,700
advocates have serious concerns about handing over this

3494
02:00:34,700 --> 02:00:35,660
kind of access.

3495
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,580
When you justify surveillance by saying that it's

3496
02:00:38,580 --> 02:00:40,200
only going to be used against the most

3497
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,800
violent criminals, what you end up seeing is

3498
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:46,660
those technologies become slowly over time an everyday

3499
02:00:46,660 --> 02:00:47,820
aspect of policing.

3500
02:00:47,940 --> 02:00:51,500
Many police departments emphasize these programs are voluntary

3501
02:00:51,500 --> 02:00:55,160
and designed with privacy and transparency in mind.

3502
02:00:55,500 --> 02:00:58,420
We are not passively watching camera feed and

3503
02:00:58,420 --> 02:01:00,040
watching people live their day-to-day lives.

3504
02:01:00,180 --> 02:01:03,020
New uses for the latest technology to help

3505
02:01:03,020 --> 02:01:03,940
keep us safe.

3506
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,120
You can't stop it.

3507
02:01:07,460 --> 02:01:09,920
The Skynet is here.

3508
02:01:11,020 --> 02:01:11,260
Yeah.

3509
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:12,760
We're building it ourselves.

3510
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:13,380
And you know what?

3511
02:01:13,500 --> 02:01:15,920
If I go to someone's house and I

3512
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:17,320
see one of those cameras, I'm going to

3513
02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:18,640
call them and walk away.

3514
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:19,860
I'm not coming to your house.

3515
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:21,940
Take that ring camera down.

3516
02:01:22,820 --> 02:01:26,600
Why don't you just take some shoe polish

3517
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:27,820
and put it right over the lens?

3518
02:01:29,820 --> 02:01:30,140
Oh.

3519
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:31,400
Yeah.

3520
02:01:32,580 --> 02:01:34,060
I'm going to rip it right off and

3521
02:01:34,060 --> 02:01:35,880
put it in my drawer next to my

3522
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:36,200
phone.

3523
02:01:38,300 --> 02:01:39,340
None of this is good.

3524
02:01:39,460 --> 02:01:40,960
But again, I'm telling you, it's because people

3525
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:41,620
love it.

3526
02:01:41,620 --> 02:01:42,180
Oh, yeah.

3527
02:01:42,660 --> 02:01:43,520
I got this.

3528
02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:44,000
I got this.

3529
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:44,960
I got him.

3530
02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:45,940
I got him.

3531
02:01:46,180 --> 02:01:47,740
My clip went viral.

3532
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:49,200
I'm awesome.

3533
02:01:49,660 --> 02:01:50,200
I'm awesome.

3534
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:51,880
A rat.

3535
02:01:53,140 --> 02:01:55,200
Hey, if you catch the pizza rat, that

3536
02:01:55,200 --> 02:01:56,060
could be worth some money.

3537
02:01:58,120 --> 02:01:58,920
Pizza rat.

3538
02:01:59,860 --> 02:02:00,260
Yeah.

3539
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:01,680
Hey, with that, I want to thank you

3540
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:03,060
for your courage in the morning to the

3541
02:02:03,060 --> 02:02:04,680
man who just put the C's in the

3542
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:06,380
crime-fighting camera network.

3543
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:07,900
Say hello to my friend on the other

3544
02:02:07,900 --> 02:02:10,060
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

3545
02:02:10,260 --> 02:02:10,580
DeMora.

3546
02:02:13,540 --> 02:02:14,980
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.

3547
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:15,420
Adam Curry.

3548
02:02:15,500 --> 02:02:16,660
In the morning, our ships and sea boots

3549
02:02:16,660 --> 02:02:17,140
hit the ground.

3550
02:02:18,540 --> 02:02:19,940
Make sure your stuff is in the water

3551
02:02:19,940 --> 02:02:21,400
and all the games and nights out there.

3552
02:02:21,460 --> 02:02:22,660
In the morning to the trolls in the

3553
02:02:22,660 --> 02:02:23,160
troll room.

3554
02:02:23,300 --> 02:02:23,520
Wake up.

3555
02:02:23,740 --> 02:02:25,480
We're stuck in here with trolls missing one

3556
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:26,740
line and one line.

3557
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:30,420
1912, not bad for an Easter Sunday.

3558
02:02:31,340 --> 02:02:32,920
Aren't you people out hunting eggs?

3559
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:35,680
1912 stinks.

3560
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:36,860
For a Sunday?

3561
02:02:37,860 --> 02:02:40,300
Well, for a holiday, you know, nobody comes

3562
02:02:40,300 --> 02:02:40,580
and listens.

3563
02:02:40,700 --> 02:02:42,280
This is why nobody does work.

3564
02:02:42,420 --> 02:02:43,520
This is why nobody works.

3565
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:44,260
I've said it before.

3566
02:02:44,580 --> 02:02:44,680
Yeah.

3567
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:46,780
This is why nobody works on these holidays

3568
02:02:46,780 --> 02:02:47,600
except us.

3569
02:02:47,740 --> 02:02:47,960
Yeah.

3570
02:02:48,620 --> 02:02:49,900
Because nobody's around.

3571
02:02:49,980 --> 02:02:50,600
They don't listen.

3572
02:02:50,820 --> 02:02:52,960
They're actually doing something.

3573
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:54,000
They're living their lives.

3574
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:58,060
No, people always want to check in with

3575
02:02:58,060 --> 02:02:58,220
us.

3576
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:00,060
I mean, again, we do this.

3577
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:01,280
Maybe they'll download later.

3578
02:03:01,460 --> 02:03:01,660
Maybe.

3579
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:03,720
We do this as a public service for

3580
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:04,100
everybody.

3581
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:04,860
It's important.

3582
02:03:04,860 --> 02:03:06,920
If we don't point it out, who is

3583
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:07,540
going to?

3584
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,940
Everybody else is on the take.

3585
02:03:10,460 --> 02:03:11,680
One way or the other, they may not

3586
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:14,080
even know it, but they want to be

3587
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:14,680
popular.

3588
02:03:14,980 --> 02:03:17,080
We clearly don't want to be popular.

3589
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:19,280
Yes, I guess that's true.

3590
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:20,920
We gave that up a long time ago.

3591
02:03:21,220 --> 02:03:23,240
Hey, man, you guys should see the video.

3592
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:24,260
We need to do video.

3593
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,740
The trolls are in the troll room, trollroom

3594
02:03:28,740 --> 02:03:30,380
.io. This is just one of the many

3595
02:03:30,380 --> 02:03:32,980
features we've been doing for, oh gosh, over

3596
02:03:32,980 --> 02:03:36,240
15 years with the live chat and streaming.

3597
02:03:36,780 --> 02:03:37,960
We were on that so early.

3598
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:39,580
Why did we even decide to do that?

3599
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:40,600
You did.

3600
02:03:40,740 --> 02:03:41,440
It was all you.

3601
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:41,920
It was me.

3602
02:03:42,020 --> 02:03:42,980
I was against it.

3603
02:03:43,300 --> 02:03:44,460
You were against live streaming?

3604
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:47,380
I thought it was unnecessary.

3605
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:48,960
And how do you feel about it now?

3606
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,180
I was in the pure side of the

3607
02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:52,320
podcasting formula.

3608
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:53,720
How do you feel about it now?

3609
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:55,500
I think it's fabulous.

3610
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:55,960
Yeah.

3611
02:03:56,460 --> 02:03:57,660
I was completely wrong.

3612
02:03:57,740 --> 02:03:58,500
You were right.

3613
02:03:58,680 --> 02:03:59,360
Oh my God.

3614
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:00,600
I can't believe this.

3615
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:01,980
This is like the whole week I've been

3616
02:04:01,980 --> 02:04:02,240
right.

3617
02:04:03,660 --> 02:04:05,820
You can also listen to it on the

3618
02:04:05,820 --> 02:04:07,920
modern podcast apps, which I recommend you give

3619
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:09,740
them a go, podcastapps.com.

3620
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:14,480
You know, the big, what's it called?

3621
02:04:15,540 --> 02:04:16,100
Pocketcasts.

3622
02:04:16,780 --> 02:04:19,800
Pocketcasts, which originally, Pocketcasts, I don't know if

3623
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:21,140
you know the story behind it.

3624
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:21,680
No.

3625
02:04:21,980 --> 02:04:24,900
It was an app that was built by

3626
02:04:24,900 --> 02:04:28,500
NPR and PBS, and they all put like

3627
02:04:28,500 --> 02:04:31,160
$50 million into building this app.

3628
02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:31,980
That sounds right.

3629
02:04:31,980 --> 02:04:34,300
And it wound up, you know, the whole

3630
02:04:34,300 --> 02:04:36,180
thing fell apart, and then it was sold

3631
02:04:36,180 --> 02:04:38,180
to another group, and that group, because it's

3632
02:04:38,180 --> 02:04:39,660
very hard to make money on a podcast

3633
02:04:39,660 --> 02:04:42,020
app, unless, you know, people just want to

3634
02:04:42,020 --> 02:04:44,120
support the developer, which you should do.

3635
02:04:44,380 --> 02:04:46,000
Most apps have a way to support the

3636
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,560
developer through premium something or other.

3637
02:04:48,620 --> 02:04:50,340
You should do that, because that improves your

3638
02:04:50,340 --> 02:04:51,080
app over time.

3639
02:04:51,580 --> 02:04:55,000
And ultimately, Matt Mullenweg's outfit, Automatic bought it,

3640
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:57,960
the guys behind WordPress, and they open sourced

3641
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:00,320
it, and they have now added all these

3642
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:01,860
podcasting 2.0 features.

3643
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:05,460
Including the funding tag, which is cool.

3644
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:09,380
So if you use Pocket Cast app, if

3645
02:05:09,380 --> 02:05:11,240
you want to support the show, there's a

3646
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:12,040
button right there.

3647
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:13,240
Just look at the app right now.

3648
02:05:13,300 --> 02:05:14,260
It says support the show.

3649
02:05:14,340 --> 02:05:14,920
You click on it.

3650
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:15,160
Boom.

3651
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:16,720
You go right to our donation page.

3652
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:17,920
Is that right?

3653
02:05:18,060 --> 02:05:18,320
Yes.

3654
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:22,120
It's another Podcasting 2.0 improvement to podcasting.

3655
02:05:22,540 --> 02:05:22,940
Yep.

3656
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:24,040
Wow.

3657
02:05:24,300 --> 02:05:24,560
Yeah.

3658
02:05:24,980 --> 02:05:25,780
I'm impressed.

3659
02:05:26,300 --> 02:05:27,000
Well, thank you.

3660
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:27,540
Thank you.

3661
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:28,500
That was one of the first things.

3662
02:05:28,500 --> 02:05:29,120
You didn't do it?

3663
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:30,760
I was a big part of it.

3664
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:31,020
Yeah.

3665
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,300
We all, this is the whole group.

3666
02:05:33,380 --> 02:05:35,600
The whole group is about 150 people.

3667
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:38,180
The group's been together for five years.

3668
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:39,160
Yeah.

3669
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:40,940
It's, you won't find that.

3670
02:05:40,940 --> 02:05:42,740
That does stem from NPR, you said.

3671
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,160
No, but that's, NPR did nothing.

3672
02:05:45,460 --> 02:05:47,420
They tried to sneak in an ad thing

3673
02:05:47,420 --> 02:05:48,340
called Red.

3674
02:05:48,980 --> 02:05:49,420
Red.

3675
02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:50,020
R-A-D.

3676
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:50,620
Red.

3677
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:50,920
I don't know.

3678
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:53,620
A radio advertising directive or something.

3679
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:55,000
That thing fell apart.

3680
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,200
And so, you know, no, none of these

3681
02:05:57,200 --> 02:05:59,160
features were in there when it was bought.

3682
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:00,120
No.

3683
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:01,140
That's new.

3684
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,000
That is, that is a 2.0 feature,

3685
02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:03,460
my friend.

3686
02:06:03,940 --> 02:06:05,900
You will not find that on Spotify or

3687
02:06:05,900 --> 02:06:06,160
Apple.

3688
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:06,920
Uh-uh.

3689
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:10,480
You can get those at podcastlapse.com.

3690
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:11,980
You're a saint.

3691
02:06:13,460 --> 02:06:14,580
I don't know about that.

3692
02:06:15,260 --> 02:06:16,080
I don't know about that.

3693
02:06:16,700 --> 02:06:17,560
Well, you're sniffling.

3694
02:06:17,780 --> 02:06:18,100
Yes.

3695
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:21,160
It's getting worse as the show progresses.

3696
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:21,620
Yes.

3697
02:06:21,660 --> 02:06:23,960
I think it's, there's something about you that's,

3698
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:24,940
that spurns it all.

3699
02:06:24,940 --> 02:06:25,360
It's the COVID.

3700
02:06:25,660 --> 02:06:25,840
Yeah.

3701
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:26,780
You can't blame me.

3702
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:27,380
It's the COVID.

3703
02:06:27,380 --> 02:06:28,520
I had nothing to do with it.

3704
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:29,460
It's Dutch COVID.

3705
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,020
Dutch COVID is what I got.

3706
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:34,820
as we mentioned, we've been doing this for

3707
02:06:34,820 --> 02:06:37,460
over 17 years and, uh, the way we've

3708
02:06:37,460 --> 02:06:40,860
been able to sustain our transparency, our honesty,

3709
02:06:41,020 --> 02:06:43,640
our integrity, and quite frankly, our lack of,

3710
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:47,780
quite trans, our lack of global success is

3711
02:06:47,780 --> 02:06:49,800
by our value for value model, which means

3712
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,000
you don't get ads, you don't have to

3713
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:52,800
pause for anything.

3714
02:06:52,900 --> 02:06:55,520
Oh man, it's gotten so bad now with

3715
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:55,940
the ads.

3716
02:06:55,940 --> 02:06:57,780
Do you listen to any other podcasts ever?

3717
02:06:58,760 --> 02:06:59,480
I do.

3718
02:06:59,640 --> 02:06:59,880
Yeah.

3719
02:07:00,060 --> 02:07:00,340
Yeah.

3720
02:07:00,420 --> 02:07:01,180
Like what?

3721
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:03,480
Well, I don't have any one that I

3722
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:04,580
listen to over and over.

3723
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:06,600
I just listen to a variety of podcasts.

3724
02:07:06,740 --> 02:07:07,960
I sent you one this morning.

3725
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:11,160
The, the YouTube podcast.

3726
02:07:11,340 --> 02:07:12,540
That's not a podcast.

3727
02:07:12,820 --> 02:07:14,020
That's a YouTube video.

3728
02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:17,560
Well, it's a guy with a, well, okay.

3729
02:07:18,340 --> 02:07:20,360
There's a guy with a, one guy with

3730
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:22,860
a microphone and he's wearing a beanie and

3731
02:07:22,860 --> 02:07:23,820
he's not Tim Pool.

3732
02:07:23,900 --> 02:07:24,740
That's a podcast.

3733
02:07:25,380 --> 02:07:25,980
That's liberty.

3734
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,580
The new uniform for podcasters is a beanie,

3735
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:30,120
you know, and cans.

3736
02:07:30,260 --> 02:07:31,620
You got to have the cans over the

3737
02:07:31,620 --> 02:07:32,820
beanie, the cans.

3738
02:07:33,020 --> 02:07:33,540
That's it.

3739
02:07:33,620 --> 02:07:34,480
That's what we need to do.

3740
02:07:34,580 --> 02:07:35,760
We need to have beanies.

3741
02:07:36,060 --> 02:07:37,700
We got to have beanies over the can.

3742
02:07:37,700 --> 02:07:38,600
I think that would be good.

3743
02:07:38,660 --> 02:07:39,620
That would be a good look for us.

3744
02:07:39,700 --> 02:07:41,020
Not beanies over the cans.

3745
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:42,200
The cans are under the beanie.

3746
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:42,740
I think.

3747
02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:43,660
Cans over the beanie.

3748
02:07:43,740 --> 02:07:44,980
No, the cans are over the beanie.

3749
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:45,860
Yeah.

3750
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:46,720
Well, there you go.

3751
02:07:46,860 --> 02:07:47,440
The cans are over the beanie.

3752
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:49,200
I've already helped our artists with the art

3753
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:51,060
and guaranteed we won't choose it.

3754
02:07:51,060 --> 02:07:51,320
Cool.

3755
02:07:51,500 --> 02:07:52,880
I have two or three of those already.

3756
02:07:53,220 --> 02:07:53,420
Guaranteed.

3757
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:54,420
Yeah.

3758
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:55,780
They won't get picked.

3759
02:07:55,900 --> 02:07:56,480
Don't do them.

3760
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,100
Value for value is how we decided to

3761
02:08:00,100 --> 02:08:01,900
move this ball forward, and it's been okay.

3762
02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:05,060
I mean, it's certainly, it's been a ride.

3763
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:07,520
You know, imagine, like, you look at your

3764
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:08,640
check at the end of the month, like,

3765
02:08:08,700 --> 02:08:10,020
oh, it's much less than it was the

3766
02:08:10,020 --> 02:08:10,600
month before.

3767
02:08:10,700 --> 02:08:10,900
Why?

3768
02:08:10,980 --> 02:08:11,380
I don't know.

3769
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:12,020
You suck.

3770
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:13,360
Okay, thanks.

3771
02:08:13,460 --> 02:08:13,840
Got it.

3772
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:15,360
Or, hey, we did well.

3773
02:08:15,460 --> 02:08:16,120
People liked us.

3774
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:19,660
People, but we can't kowtow to anybody because

3775
02:08:19,660 --> 02:08:21,100
that's when it just doesn't work.

3776
02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:24,220
The audience capture thing doesn't work.

3777
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:26,200
People who want you to say certain things,

3778
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:26,980
they never donate.

3779
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:27,720
Have you noticed that?

3780
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:29,480
Oh, yeah.

3781
02:08:29,700 --> 02:08:30,700
That's why we don't do it.

3782
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:31,400
We know this.

3783
02:08:31,580 --> 02:08:31,700
Yeah.

3784
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:33,300
We've been around a block.

3785
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:34,460
People are like, oh, you got to talk

3786
02:08:34,460 --> 02:08:35,160
more about this.

3787
02:08:35,260 --> 02:08:36,480
You got to talk about Epstein.

3788
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:36,960
Yeah.

3789
02:08:37,220 --> 02:08:37,540
Yeah.

3790
02:08:37,740 --> 02:08:38,060
Yeah.

3791
02:08:38,060 --> 02:08:39,420
If you don't talk about Epstein, you know

3792
02:08:39,420 --> 02:08:40,500
how they control everything.

3793
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:41,480
Epstein.

3794
02:08:42,740 --> 02:08:43,180
Maxwell.

3795
02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:43,900
Where's the list?

3796
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:44,720
I want to see it.

3797
02:08:44,820 --> 02:08:45,640
Yeah, I want it, too.

3798
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:47,140
There is no list.

3799
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:48,180
And Diddy.

3800
02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:51,220
Do you really think there's a list of

3801
02:08:51,220 --> 02:08:54,740
clients and has behind it, oh, likes this,

3802
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,440
likes this, has a penchant for that?

3803
02:08:57,780 --> 02:08:58,160
Do you really?

3804
02:08:58,540 --> 02:08:59,740
I don't think so.

3805
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:00,840
I think so.

3806
02:09:00,940 --> 02:09:02,140
You think that list exists?

3807
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:03,400
No.

3808
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:04,640
They destroyed it.

3809
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:07,380
I don't think it ever existed.

3810
02:09:07,380 --> 02:09:10,820
I mean, you don't know your clients well

3811
02:09:10,820 --> 02:09:11,060
enough.

3812
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:12,160
You have to write that down.

3813
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:13,440
Oh, he likes the feather.

3814
02:09:13,780 --> 02:09:14,380
Too many people.

3815
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:16,480
There's a massive amount of people.

3816
02:09:16,580 --> 02:09:17,780
You need the details.

3817
02:09:19,580 --> 02:09:20,780
Well, we want the list.

3818
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:21,220
I agree.

3819
02:09:21,300 --> 02:09:21,980
We want the list.

3820
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:23,440
Yeah, we want the list.

3821
02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:24,100
And you know what?

3822
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:25,620
Or at least come out and say that,

3823
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:27,340
or at least come out with the BS.

3824
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:29,180
There is no list.

3825
02:09:29,260 --> 02:09:30,900
We tried and tried and tried.

3826
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:34,340
Pam Bondage can come out and do that

3827
02:09:34,340 --> 02:09:35,160
at any time.

3828
02:09:35,180 --> 02:09:36,620
She can say we're wrong.

3829
02:09:36,620 --> 02:09:38,260
We thought we had something here.

3830
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:39,120
We don't.

3831
02:09:39,540 --> 02:09:41,180
I mean, just tell us the truth instead

3832
02:09:41,180 --> 02:09:42,220
of dangling it.

3833
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:42,980
Yes.

3834
02:09:43,060 --> 02:09:44,720
And how about that frazzle drip video?

3835
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:45,620
Tell us more.

3836
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:47,580
Frazzle drip.

3837
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:48,620
I don't even know about that.

3838
02:09:48,780 --> 02:09:49,740
Oh, you don't want to see it.

3839
02:09:50,380 --> 02:09:50,780
Frazzle drip.

3840
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:51,880
You don't know the frazzle drip?

3841
02:09:52,420 --> 02:09:52,720
No.

3842
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:53,620
Oh, it's horrible.

3843
02:09:53,820 --> 02:09:54,900
I didn't want to tell you.

3844
02:09:55,220 --> 02:09:57,320
I would have called, if you had said

3845
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:58,340
that out of the blue, I'd figure that's

3846
02:09:58,340 --> 02:09:59,780
a disease you have currently.

3847
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:05,740
No, it's supposedly Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin.

3848
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:09,080
Torturing a child and cutting off the child's

3849
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:10,500
face and wearing it like a mask.

3850
02:10:10,540 --> 02:10:11,200
There, I said it.

3851
02:10:11,780 --> 02:10:13,180
Oh, yeah, I remember that.

3852
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:13,460
Yeah.

3853
02:10:15,940 --> 02:10:17,060
Oh, now you remember.

3854
02:10:17,300 --> 02:10:18,860
How could you forget that one?

3855
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:20,880
That somehow that didn't leave, that it was

3856
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:21,880
hard for me to get out of my

3857
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:22,200
mind.

3858
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:23,680
Bull crap is why.

3859
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:24,740
Frazzle drip.

3860
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:25,080
Yes.

3861
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:26,200
Yeah.

3862
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:26,800
Yeah.

3863
02:10:28,220 --> 02:10:28,620
So.

3864
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:30,980
Hey, we're going to do something really gross.

3865
02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:32,820
Somebody, anybody with a camera, anyone with a

3866
02:10:32,820 --> 02:10:34,300
phone that can take a picture of this,

3867
02:10:34,340 --> 02:10:36,900
so we can use it as evidence against

3868
02:10:36,900 --> 02:10:37,200
us.

3869
02:10:37,460 --> 02:10:39,840
And remember, it was filmed by Podesta.

3870
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:42,440
Podesta.

3871
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:44,780
Yes, it was Podesta filming, because you can

3872
02:10:44,780 --> 02:10:45,420
hear him laugh.

3873
02:10:45,500 --> 02:10:46,320
It's Podesta's laugh.

3874
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:47,240
Everybody knows it.

3875
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:50,320
Everybody knows it.

3876
02:10:50,820 --> 02:10:51,160
Wow.

3877
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:52,940
This is turning out to be such an

3878
02:10:52,940 --> 02:10:53,980
Easter show, isn't it?

3879
02:10:54,020 --> 02:10:54,540
And that's beautiful.

3880
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:54,860
Yeah.

3881
02:10:54,860 --> 02:10:55,080
Yeah.

3882
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:55,900
Thanks to you.

3883
02:10:56,040 --> 02:10:56,660
What do you mean?

3884
02:10:57,240 --> 02:10:58,180
You brought it up.

3885
02:10:58,240 --> 02:10:58,720
I didn't.

3886
02:10:59,540 --> 02:11:01,400
Well, you pretend that you didn't know.

3887
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:03,880
I didn't.

3888
02:11:05,380 --> 02:11:07,620
Value for Value is where we ask you

3889
02:11:07,620 --> 02:11:09,600
to support the show for the service that

3890
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:10,980
we provide, free of charge.

3891
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:12,020
There's no limitations.

3892
02:11:12,260 --> 02:11:13,780
We never ask you to jump through any

3893
02:11:13,780 --> 02:11:15,680
hoops, not even a registration.

3894
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:17,480
You know, you can sign up for the

3895
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:19,660
newsletter, which is also free, which you also

3896
02:11:19,660 --> 02:11:20,740
get in your mailing list.

3897
02:11:20,940 --> 02:11:22,200
And I'm surprised more people don't sign up

3898
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:22,620
for it.

3899
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:24,060
It's good content.

3900
02:11:25,580 --> 02:11:26,560
And it's funny.

3901
02:11:27,060 --> 02:11:28,940
And it always gives a little preview of

3902
02:11:28,940 --> 02:11:30,340
stuff we're going to talk about or what's

3903
02:11:30,340 --> 02:11:30,800
going on.

3904
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:31,800
Memes of the week.

3905
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:32,660
Some funny memes.

3906
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:34,080
I got a hypocrite in there.

3907
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:36,620
every, every newsletter has got a different one.

3908
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:37,660
And I know you do a lot of

3909
02:11:37,660 --> 02:11:39,720
work on creating those hypocrite memes.

3910
02:11:40,420 --> 02:11:42,560
You got to look through somebody else's files.

3911
02:11:42,740 --> 02:11:44,380
Yeah, it's very difficult work.

3912
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:46,420
Well, it's not as easy as it looks.

3913
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:48,300
It used to be easier when the guy,

3914
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:50,060
the guy, the most of these come from

3915
02:11:50,060 --> 02:11:50,920
Defiant L.

3916
02:11:51,740 --> 02:11:54,360
And he used to be, he used to

3917
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:55,140
crank these out.

3918
02:11:55,140 --> 02:11:56,600
And then all of a sudden he became

3919
02:11:56,600 --> 02:11:58,780
like, Oh, everyone, you know, I think Trump

3920
02:11:58,780 --> 02:12:00,500
or somebody said, Hey, this guy's got some

3921
02:12:00,500 --> 02:12:01,040
good stuff.

3922
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:03,320
So now he's pontificating.

3923
02:12:03,540 --> 02:12:05,600
He's clipping all kinds of stuff.

3924
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:07,080
It's just like gone beyond.

3925
02:12:07,440 --> 02:12:08,400
He's gone.

3926
02:12:08,500 --> 02:12:10,500
He's got to jump to his head.

3927
02:12:10,620 --> 02:12:11,200
Jumped the shark.

3928
02:12:11,300 --> 02:12:12,040
He's jumped the shark.

3929
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:14,000
Yeah, he has jumped the shark.

3930
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:16,480
So one of the ways people support us

3931
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:18,200
with time and talent is what our artists

3932
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:18,380
do.

3933
02:12:18,420 --> 02:12:19,720
And our artists are very talented.

3934
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:22,300
They've been talented for many, many years.

3935
02:12:22,300 --> 02:12:24,180
And a lot of them have picked up

3936
02:12:24,180 --> 02:12:25,520
the tools of the trade, the new tool.

3937
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:27,340
I mean, back in the day, people were

3938
02:12:27,340 --> 02:12:30,060
using Microsoft paint when we started the show.

3939
02:12:30,260 --> 02:12:33,400
And then Mac draw.

3940
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:34,940
I remember a lot of people use Mac

3941
02:12:34,940 --> 02:12:35,260
draw.

3942
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:36,160
Mac draw.

3943
02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:38,660
And, and then slowly they came in with

3944
02:12:38,660 --> 02:12:41,080
some Photoshop and then there was a big,

3945
02:12:41,460 --> 02:12:42,680
Oh, I remember the controversy.

3946
02:12:42,820 --> 02:12:43,660
That's clip art.

3947
02:12:44,100 --> 02:12:45,720
Someone's cheating with clip art.

3948
02:12:45,820 --> 02:12:48,980
Those days seem silly by today's terms, don't

3949
02:12:48,980 --> 02:12:49,200
they?

3950
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:50,780
Because now it's AI.

3951
02:12:50,780 --> 02:12:53,060
People are using AI, not all, but many

3952
02:12:53,060 --> 02:12:53,640
are using them.

3953
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:54,820
Some have figured it out.

3954
02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:56,360
I'd say over half of the artists are

3955
02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:56,760
using AI.

3956
02:12:57,140 --> 02:12:58,620
Some are so good that we think it's

3957
02:12:58,620 --> 02:12:59,520
AI and it's not.

3958
02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:02,860
But all of it is at noagendaartgenerator.com.

3959
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:05,880
And you can, if you're listening live, you

3960
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:07,760
can just go there and refresh and see

3961
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:10,020
the new ideas streaming in, which is fantastic.

3962
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:13,100
And of course, all of these images make,

3963
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:14,700
have a pretty good shot of being used

3964
02:13:14,700 --> 02:13:16,700
for the chapters, which you can see on

3965
02:13:16,700 --> 02:13:18,800
the modern podcast apps, including pocket casts.

3966
02:13:19,900 --> 02:13:21,860
Pocket cast has like 3% of the

3967
02:13:21,860 --> 02:13:24,760
market, which is pretty big for a, for

3968
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:25,180
an app.

3969
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,820
So our art for episode 1756, which we

3970
02:13:28,820 --> 02:13:32,160
titled AG Barbie, came to us from Dr.

3971
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:32,560
Kelly.

3972
02:13:32,620 --> 02:13:34,920
And it was a, Hey Bill, pick me

3973
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:35,280
girl.

3974
02:13:36,420 --> 02:13:39,060
And people loved this art.

3975
02:13:39,300 --> 02:13:40,060
I knew they would.

3976
02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:41,520
I knew it.

3977
02:13:42,060 --> 02:13:44,100
And, you know, people were really ready to

3978
02:13:44,100 --> 02:13:44,880
give up Linux.

3979
02:13:44,980 --> 02:13:47,520
Like, well, if Microsoft has girls like that,

3980
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:50,380
I'm, I'm, I'm packing up my Linux.

3981
02:13:50,580 --> 02:13:51,480
I'm going to windows.

3982
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:53,740
I saw him say it.

3983
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:56,800
And this was of course, based upon a

3984
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:58,160
story that you had never told.

3985
02:13:58,240 --> 02:13:59,740
I don't think I'd ever heard it before.

3986
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:03,960
That, that Microsoft would send off these girls

3987
02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:06,880
to Australia to go work there because, you

3988
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:08,500
know, they had to protect them against bill.

3989
02:14:09,380 --> 02:14:11,660
And, well, no, it's after they had the

3990
02:14:11,660 --> 02:14:13,760
affair with bill, they had to protect the

3991
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:14,140
company.

3992
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:14,780
Oh, the company.

3993
02:14:14,780 --> 02:14:15,280
Right.

3994
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:15,920
Yeah.

3995
02:14:16,140 --> 02:14:17,240
Do you think that E.

3996
02:14:17,320 --> 02:14:18,460
Karen was one of them?

3997
02:14:19,900 --> 02:14:20,600
I don't know.

3998
02:14:20,660 --> 02:14:20,880
Maybe.

3999
02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:23,180
Remember the, the, the girl who used to,

4000
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:26,020
she worked at, she got turned, turned down

4001
02:14:26,020 --> 02:14:27,620
a job at the CIA and then she

4002
02:14:27,620 --> 02:14:29,100
worked for Microsoft in the nineties.

4003
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:30,360
Would this have been in the nineties?

4004
02:14:31,700 --> 02:14:33,160
Yeah, probably would have been the nineties.

4005
02:14:33,300 --> 02:14:35,120
And then she was sent over to run

4006
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:38,880
the, run the outfit in, in Australia.

4007
02:14:39,300 --> 02:14:40,860
Well, if it's the, yes.

4008
02:14:41,780 --> 02:14:42,220
Yes.

4009
02:14:42,380 --> 02:14:43,820
Sounds like she might've been one of them.

4010
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:46,720
Uh, so that was Dr. Kelly.

4011
02:14:46,860 --> 02:14:48,660
Dr. Kelly won anything previously?

4012
02:14:48,820 --> 02:14:52,640
No, this was Dr. Kelly's second, uh, submission.

4013
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:55,960
Dr. Kelly has only been an artist for

4014
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:59,140
three weeks, has only, uh, entered twice and

4015
02:14:59,140 --> 02:14:59,680
boom.

4016
02:15:00,700 --> 02:15:01,560
It happens.

4017
02:15:01,860 --> 02:15:02,320
Nailed it.

4018
02:15:02,780 --> 02:15:03,460
Nailed it.

4019
02:15:03,540 --> 02:15:05,140
That was really, that was the point of

4020
02:15:05,140 --> 02:15:05,520
controversy.

4021
02:15:05,700 --> 02:15:07,200
Cause we both wanted to pick the one

4022
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:09,180
next to it, which was shrimp Barbie.

4023
02:15:09,820 --> 02:15:10,860
Uh, let me see.

4024
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:11,520
Let me see.

4025
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:12,100
Where was it?

4026
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:13,280
Which, what was it with shrimp Barbie?

4027
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:16,760
Well, you go find, Hey Bill, pick me

4028
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:20,060
from Dr. Kelly is right next to it.

4029
02:15:20,580 --> 02:15:23,100
Uh, there's some, I believe you don't remember

4030
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:23,460
this.

4031
02:15:24,440 --> 02:15:26,260
I traveled across the world.

4032
02:15:27,540 --> 02:15:30,260
Um, well, is it on the next page?

4033
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:32,540
No, it's right next to the, the one

4034
02:15:32,540 --> 02:15:33,140
we picked.

4035
02:15:33,260 --> 02:15:34,920
I know, but I can't even find the

4036
02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:35,480
one we picked.

4037
02:15:35,540 --> 02:15:37,120
I think that's on page two for me.

4038
02:15:37,260 --> 02:15:38,620
No, no, it's on page one.

4039
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:39,960
Hmm.

4040
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:42,840
I'll tell you how many rows down.

4041
02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:43,260
Okay.

4042
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:47,340
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

4043
02:15:47,700 --> 02:15:49,000
Ah, okay.

4044
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:53,720
Shrimp Barbie is, uh, no, next to what

4045
02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:58,300
I have, the, the tech grouch on the

4046
02:15:58,300 --> 02:15:58,860
other side.

4047
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:00,980
Oh, Oh, Oh, there it is.

4048
02:16:01,120 --> 02:16:02,660
No, that wasn't the one we wanted.

4049
02:16:02,780 --> 02:16:05,120
The one, no, that's the one we wanted.

4050
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:06,540
We wanted pick me too.

4051
02:16:06,660 --> 02:16:08,780
The guy with the, with the belly shirt

4052
02:16:08,780 --> 02:16:12,960
and the beard, the one above it.

4053
02:16:14,900 --> 02:16:16,020
The one above it.

4054
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:17,920
Oh, well, your, your layout.

4055
02:16:18,020 --> 02:16:19,720
How many, four, I got four across.

4056
02:16:19,820 --> 02:16:20,440
What's your layout?

4057
02:16:20,540 --> 02:16:21,440
I got three across.

4058
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:23,000
All right, go four across.

4059
02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:24,340
I don't want, yeah, that's the one I'm

4060
02:16:24,340 --> 02:16:24,800
talking about.

4061
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:26,380
The guy with a beard and the, yeah,

4062
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:27,340
but that's pick me too.

4063
02:16:27,420 --> 02:16:28,440
That's not shrimp Barbie.

4064
02:16:28,780 --> 02:16:30,360
It says shrimp Barbie on mine.

4065
02:16:30,440 --> 02:16:32,059
I'm talking about the one on the left

4066
02:16:32,059 --> 02:16:33,059
from blue acorn.

4067
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:35,719
So we were talking about, Oh no, we

4068
02:16:35,719 --> 02:16:36,780
didn't want that one.

4069
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:37,700
That's the one I wanted.

4070
02:16:37,799 --> 02:16:38,580
I thought that was great.

4071
02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:39,160
it's not.

4072
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:40,900
The one you wanted was the same one

4073
02:16:40,900 --> 02:16:41,940
I'm talking about.

4074
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:42,900
No, you were laughing.

4075
02:16:43,020 --> 02:16:43,780
We thought it was both.

4076
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:45,580
We both thought it was funnier than the,

4077
02:16:45,660 --> 02:16:46,520
than the cute girl.

4078
02:16:46,719 --> 02:16:48,379
I was, I'm telling you, I was laughing

4079
02:16:48,379 --> 02:16:49,480
at the other one.

4080
02:16:51,889 --> 02:16:53,309
Well, that's a terrible one.

4081
02:16:54,209 --> 02:16:55,709
I thought that was funny.

4082
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:57,930
Now the one I like, yeah, yeah.

4083
02:16:57,969 --> 02:16:59,270
You liked the shrimp Barbie.

4084
02:16:59,350 --> 02:16:59,809
I got you.

4085
02:16:59,870 --> 02:17:03,350
No, I like bad cook by Darren O

4086
02:17:03,350 --> 02:17:03,670
'Neill.

4087
02:17:04,530 --> 02:17:06,709
And you just thought it was a, yeah,

4088
02:17:06,850 --> 02:17:08,209
it was slop slop.

4089
02:17:08,850 --> 02:17:10,070
It was actually quite good.

4090
02:17:10,450 --> 02:17:10,650
Yeah.

4091
02:17:12,730 --> 02:17:14,850
When there's some other pick bills down further,

4092
02:17:14,969 --> 02:17:15,930
a little more cheesecake.

4093
02:17:16,490 --> 02:17:19,030
He, you know, the troll room is like,

4094
02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:20,330
well, what is this?

4095
02:17:20,350 --> 02:17:21,650
I hate this conversation.

4096
02:17:21,889 --> 02:17:23,129
You guys aren't playing along.

4097
02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:24,830
You have to get to the website and

4098
02:17:24,830 --> 02:17:25,530
play along.

4099
02:17:26,010 --> 02:17:28,150
If you're not on the website, it's boring.

4100
02:17:28,309 --> 02:17:28,650
Yes.

4101
02:17:28,830 --> 02:17:30,389
Well, they, they think it's all, this is

4102
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:30,790
riveting.

4103
02:17:30,910 --> 02:17:31,790
Oh, this is so good.

4104
02:17:31,790 --> 02:17:32,969
This is inside baseball.

4105
02:17:33,350 --> 02:17:33,549
Oh boy.

4106
02:17:33,809 --> 02:17:34,070
Okay.

4107
02:17:34,969 --> 02:17:36,090
And you know what they do?

4108
02:17:36,170 --> 02:17:38,309
They don't donate and they don't, they don't,

4109
02:17:38,410 --> 02:17:39,190
no, they don't donate.

4110
02:17:39,309 --> 02:17:41,770
These people that they're complaining, do not donate.

4111
02:17:41,930 --> 02:17:42,129
They do.

4112
02:17:42,190 --> 02:17:45,870
All they want is just, you know, free

4113
02:17:45,870 --> 02:17:48,110
stuff right in the vein, right?

4114
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:48,629
Exactly.

4115
02:17:48,889 --> 02:17:51,870
Well, thank you very much to our artists.

4116
02:17:52,090 --> 02:17:55,110
They're brand new artists, which I think is

4117
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:55,969
just fantastic.

4118
02:17:56,110 --> 02:17:58,670
It was very, it doesn't happen a lot.

4119
02:17:58,969 --> 02:18:00,250
Dr. Kelly, welcome aboard.

4120
02:18:00,250 --> 02:18:01,809
You're on the, you're not on the leaderboard,

4121
02:18:01,889 --> 02:18:02,750
but you keep at it.

4122
02:18:03,049 --> 02:18:04,490
And by the way, you know, speak of

4123
02:18:04,490 --> 02:18:05,150
the tech grouch.

4124
02:18:05,650 --> 02:18:07,590
So I, I pulled up the text group

4125
02:18:07,590 --> 02:18:08,190
tech grouch.

4126
02:18:08,190 --> 02:18:09,469
Cause you told me there was on tick

4127
02:18:09,469 --> 02:18:09,969
tock.

4128
02:18:10,350 --> 02:18:10,730
Yeah.

4129
02:18:10,930 --> 02:18:12,670
And I showed it to Christina and Kevin

4130
02:18:12,670 --> 02:18:15,469
and, and even I was playing and I'm

4131
02:18:15,469 --> 02:18:16,850
like, it didn't age.

4132
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:18,629
You got to do new ones.

4133
02:18:19,090 --> 02:18:19,330
Yeah.

4134
02:18:19,370 --> 02:18:19,730
Obvious.

4135
02:18:19,809 --> 02:18:20,549
It's very old.

4136
02:18:20,709 --> 02:18:20,930
Yeah.

4137
02:18:21,070 --> 02:18:22,809
And you have like 27 views.

4138
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:25,280
Well, it's because it's just posted.

4139
02:18:26,010 --> 02:18:28,850
Nah, it's, it's, it doesn't have virality, man.

4140
02:18:29,049 --> 02:18:30,230
You gotta, you gotta start over.

4141
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:32,969
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta

4142
02:18:32,969 --> 02:18:35,190
remake the tech grouch anyway.

4143
02:18:36,090 --> 02:18:37,389
Thank you very much to all of the

4144
02:18:37,389 --> 02:18:37,730
artists.

4145
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:40,490
And again, to Dr. Kelly and everybody can

4146
02:18:40,490 --> 02:18:40,850
participate.

4147
02:18:40,850 --> 02:18:42,629
Go to no agenda, art generator.com.

4148
02:18:42,629 --> 02:18:45,450
And now as we always thank every single

4149
02:18:45,450 --> 02:18:47,469
one of our financial supporters, that's one of

4150
02:18:47,469 --> 02:18:49,309
the teas of time, talent and treasure.

4151
02:18:49,770 --> 02:18:52,309
We thank everybody $50 and above never under

4152
02:18:52,309 --> 02:18:53,750
50 for reasons of anonymity.

4153
02:18:53,889 --> 02:18:54,049
Yes.

4154
02:18:54,049 --> 02:18:55,870
There are plea people who want to support

4155
02:18:55,870 --> 02:18:56,930
the show, but are embarrassed.

4156
02:18:56,930 --> 02:18:58,309
So they don't want to be known.

4157
02:18:58,950 --> 02:19:01,209
And, uh, we always thank our executive and

4158
02:19:01,209 --> 02:19:04,330
associate executive producers right up front here, $200

4159
02:19:04,330 --> 02:19:07,030
or above, you get the coveted title of

4160
02:19:07,030 --> 02:19:08,290
associate executive producer.

4161
02:19:08,430 --> 02:19:10,790
Good anywhere as a Hollywood credit, even on

4162
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:13,430
imdb.com and we'll read your note $300

4163
02:19:13,430 --> 02:19:14,270
or above.

4164
02:19:14,350 --> 02:19:17,469
You become an executive producer, same credit lifetime

4165
02:19:17,469 --> 02:19:19,410
applies, and we will read your notes.

4166
02:19:19,490 --> 02:19:22,129
And as always, the top donors have the

4167
02:19:22,129 --> 02:19:22,830
shortest notes.

4168
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:26,469
Earl Christopher comes in from Marshfield, Wisconsin with

4169
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:30,530
$526 and 36 cents, which Earl says is

4170
02:19:30,530 --> 02:19:32,450
$500 plus fees.

4171
02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:32,969
Wow.

4172
02:19:34,270 --> 02:19:37,950
$26 in fees for using an app, man.

4173
02:19:38,170 --> 02:19:39,290
Thank you very much, Christopher.

4174
02:19:39,389 --> 02:19:40,110
You appreciate it.

4175
02:19:40,430 --> 02:19:41,570
And he says, you know what, if that

4176
02:19:41,570 --> 02:19:43,910
was a check, yeah, it was 15 cents,

4177
02:19:44,450 --> 02:19:45,650
15 cents, 15 cents.

4178
02:19:45,770 --> 02:19:46,530
We accept checks.

4179
02:19:46,629 --> 02:19:47,830
We do no agenda.

4180
02:19:47,970 --> 02:19:49,470
Donations.com explains it all.

4181
02:19:49,490 --> 02:19:52,230
And he says, happy Easter and a happy

4182
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:52,990
Easter to you, Earl.

4183
02:19:52,990 --> 02:19:54,150
Thank you very much.

4184
02:19:55,490 --> 02:19:58,870
Sir, dude, named Ralph Commodore, sir, sir, dude

4185
02:19:58,870 --> 02:20:02,990
named Ralph in Miami, Florida at 421 85.

4186
02:20:03,230 --> 02:20:03,810
Happy Easter.

4187
02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:04,730
Another short note.

4188
02:20:05,410 --> 02:20:07,230
Happy Easter to you and your families.

4189
02:20:07,390 --> 02:20:10,110
This donation is to wish my dad, a

4190
02:20:10,110 --> 02:20:14,630
ref, ref, Rafael, a happy 85th birthday on

4191
02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:16,210
Monday, April 21st.

4192
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:17,190
And he's on the list too.

4193
02:20:17,370 --> 02:20:18,030
Very good.

4194
02:20:18,470 --> 02:20:20,290
Commodore dude, sir, dude named Ralph.

4195
02:20:20,850 --> 02:20:24,510
Chase Adams is in DeSoto, Missouri, 420 dot

4196
02:20:24,510 --> 02:20:25,070
69.

4197
02:20:25,650 --> 02:20:26,270
We got you.

4198
02:20:26,810 --> 02:20:27,710
Greetings, gents.

4199
02:20:28,190 --> 02:20:30,510
I've been a regular listen since listener, since

4200
02:20:30,510 --> 02:20:33,130
Rogan donation was a new thing, but to

4201
02:20:33,130 --> 02:20:35,330
my own misfortune, I have never been above

4202
02:20:35,330 --> 02:20:37,350
board with my three Ts and can only

4203
02:20:37,350 --> 02:20:39,670
call myself a dirty, dirty douchebag.

4204
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:42,330
However, today marked a once in a lifetime

4205
02:20:42,330 --> 02:20:46,070
opportunity and mystical confluence of numerology that compelled

4206
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:48,370
me to thank you for your time, talent,

4207
02:20:48,450 --> 02:20:50,710
and treasure with some of my own, though

4208
02:20:50,710 --> 02:20:52,410
no amount of money will be enough to

4209
02:20:52,410 --> 02:20:54,990
compensate for my incredibly small amygdala.

4210
02:20:55,350 --> 02:20:58,190
Hopefully this will help you help keep you

4211
02:20:58,190 --> 02:21:01,270
one more episode away from your impending backup

4212
02:21:01,270 --> 02:21:02,250
plane plan.

4213
02:21:02,430 --> 02:21:03,750
You mean exit strategy.

4214
02:21:04,210 --> 02:21:05,830
By the way, Adam, if you were looking

4215
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:10,250
to celebrate today, operate a website, blazed deals,

4216
02:21:12,250 --> 02:21:15,890
blazed deals, which scans over 600 online cannabis

4217
02:21:15,890 --> 02:21:16,430
retailers.

4218
02:21:16,430 --> 02:21:18,510
So you can find the very lowest price

4219
02:21:18,510 --> 02:21:19,550
on what you're looking for.

4220
02:21:19,550 --> 02:21:22,130
Simply visit blazed dot deals.

4221
02:21:22,250 --> 02:21:24,130
Oh, it's blazed dot deals, I guess, and

4222
02:21:24,130 --> 02:21:26,250
click the category of product you prefer to

4223
02:21:26,250 --> 02:21:29,390
find everything on the net order by milligram

4224
02:21:29,390 --> 02:21:30,090
per dollar.

4225
02:21:30,210 --> 02:21:31,150
Best value first.

4226
02:21:31,530 --> 02:21:32,190
Love you guys.

4227
02:21:32,290 --> 02:21:33,690
Thank you so much for what you do.

4228
02:21:34,050 --> 02:21:35,610
Could I get a de-douching a Rogan

4229
02:21:35,610 --> 02:21:38,390
donation and the B and the B, and

4230
02:21:38,390 --> 02:21:39,030
then it stops.

4231
02:21:39,130 --> 02:21:40,570
What happened to the rest of his note?

4232
02:21:41,470 --> 02:21:42,030
I don't know.

4233
02:21:42,350 --> 02:21:47,970
I need to talk to management about you've

4234
02:21:47,970 --> 02:21:48,230
been.

4235
02:21:48,770 --> 02:21:49,950
Oh, sorry.

4236
02:21:50,470 --> 02:21:51,610
Let me do that again.

4237
02:21:51,730 --> 02:21:52,250
I hit the dish.

4238
02:21:53,730 --> 02:21:57,330
You've been de-douched.

4239
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:00,200
Rogan donation.

4240
02:22:00,580 --> 02:22:01,280
There we go.

4241
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:02,060
All right.

4242
02:22:02,100 --> 02:22:03,360
Thank you.

4243
02:22:03,460 --> 02:22:08,240
Now we have MFDX of Anjou, which I

4244
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:09,300
assume is in France.

4245
02:22:09,780 --> 02:22:10,900
We don't know for sure.

4246
02:22:10,920 --> 02:22:11,720
I don't know for sure.

4247
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:16,520
Do we for 2069, another four 2069, which

4248
02:22:16,520 --> 02:22:17,160
is interesting.

4249
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:19,400
He doesn't really have much of a note.

4250
02:22:19,480 --> 02:22:21,960
He just says, Elon should buy a blue

4251
02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:26,500
origin space flight for Dylan and five lucky

4252
02:22:26,500 --> 02:22:27,160
friends.

4253
02:22:28,700 --> 02:22:30,940
But he, what he does have is a

4254
02:22:30,940 --> 02:22:31,860
script.

4255
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:32,660
Yes.

4256
02:22:33,540 --> 02:22:34,700
For a jingle request.

4257
02:22:34,760 --> 02:22:37,000
And what he wants is two Fauci wheeze

4258
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,240
followed by a Fauci wheeze with a one

4259
02:22:39,240 --> 02:22:40,380
and a half second pause.

4260
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:43,620
And then 6969 dude.

4261
02:22:43,980 --> 02:22:45,060
I think I can do it.

4262
02:22:45,060 --> 02:22:45,600
Please.

4263
02:22:46,040 --> 02:22:46,600
Please.

4264
02:22:49,160 --> 02:22:50,280
6969 dude.

4265
02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:54,380
Clearly he is recording this and wants to

4266
02:22:54,380 --> 02:22:56,940
ISO it and use it as a, as

4267
02:22:56,940 --> 02:22:57,560
a ringtone.

4268
02:22:57,940 --> 02:22:59,860
Ah, why else would you do it?

4269
02:23:00,120 --> 02:23:00,740
Of course.

4270
02:23:01,100 --> 02:23:02,060
Jessica Provencher.

4271
02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:05,420
Now it could be Provencher, but I think

4272
02:23:05,420 --> 02:23:06,160
it's Provencher.

4273
02:23:06,540 --> 02:23:08,180
She's in Toronto, Ontario.

4274
02:23:08,960 --> 02:23:09,780
Please de-douche me.

4275
02:23:11,380 --> 02:23:13,280
You've been de-douched.

4276
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:15,980
I have no time or talent, but please

4277
02:23:15,980 --> 02:23:17,280
accept some of my treasure.

4278
02:23:17,420 --> 02:23:20,140
Happy 420 to those that partake and happy

4279
02:23:20,140 --> 02:23:20,940
Easter to all.

4280
02:23:21,100 --> 02:23:22,280
Jessica Provencher.

4281
02:23:22,740 --> 02:23:23,700
Merci beaucoup.

4282
02:23:25,820 --> 02:23:31,800
Onward with Sir Stoner Boner in Kent, Washington

4283
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:32,740
420.

4284
02:23:33,020 --> 02:23:34,200
Simple and easy.

4285
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:37,560
Happy Easter from Sir Stoner Boner.

4286
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:39,500
Love you guys.

4287
02:23:40,300 --> 02:23:41,060
Oh, that's easy.

4288
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:41,640
Thank you.

4289
02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:46,460
Stephen Massey, Hendersonville, North Carolina, 350 and 25

4290
02:23:46,460 --> 02:23:46,900
cents.

4291
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:48,480
This donation is way overdue.

4292
02:23:48,600 --> 02:23:49,440
De-douche me please.

4293
02:23:50,820 --> 02:23:52,660
You've been de-douched.

4294
02:23:52,740 --> 02:23:56,240
And he says this executive producership is a

4295
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:58,940
switcheroo for my wife, Mary Massey.

4296
02:23:59,380 --> 02:24:01,460
So let's make sure we do that right

4297
02:24:01,460 --> 02:24:01,880
away.

4298
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:04,940
We'll put Mary in there so we don't

4299
02:24:04,940 --> 02:24:05,640
mess that up.

4300
02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:09,440
Her business was flooded by Helene and this

4301
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:11,740
donation is in celebration of her launching a

4302
02:24:11,740 --> 02:24:15,820
new business, white lace and denim located at

4303
02:24:15,820 --> 02:24:18,660
the Tryon International Equestrian Center.

4304
02:24:19,740 --> 02:24:19,860
Hmm.

4305
02:24:20,260 --> 02:24:22,020
Can I get, do we have no website?

4306
02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:23,720
White lace and denim.

4307
02:24:24,200 --> 02:24:25,480
Can I get a dose of the best

4308
02:24:25,480 --> 02:24:27,940
business success yak karma available?

4309
02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:30,380
We will be scheduling a meetup at the

4310
02:24:30,380 --> 02:24:32,400
Silver Spoon Saloon in the near future.

4311
02:24:33,080 --> 02:24:33,960
Stay tuned.

4312
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:34,660
All right.

4313
02:24:34,780 --> 02:24:36,460
Here's your yak business karma.

4314
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:40,680
You've got karma.

4315
02:24:42,220 --> 02:24:42,480
Yeah.

4316
02:24:42,500 --> 02:24:44,340
We've got a sad, sad note coming up

4317
02:24:44,340 --> 02:24:44,520
here.

4318
02:24:44,620 --> 02:24:45,420
It's a sad note.

4319
02:24:45,860 --> 02:24:46,420
Is this one?

4320
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:46,860
Yeah.

4321
02:24:46,960 --> 02:24:47,680
Sad note.

4322
02:24:48,540 --> 02:24:50,260
This is from the future.

4323
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:50,640
Sir.

4324
02:24:50,700 --> 02:24:54,260
Friar Joe, a new Hartford, Iowa, three, three,

4325
02:24:54,360 --> 02:24:56,440
three dot six, nine, not that six nines

4326
02:24:56,440 --> 02:24:56,680
today.

4327
02:24:57,300 --> 02:24:59,380
I'm sending this donation with a heavy heart

4328
02:24:59,380 --> 02:25:01,840
to mark the passing of one of the

4329
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:04,020
great nights of the no agenda round table,

4330
02:25:04,020 --> 02:25:07,020
Baron sir linemen of the net Raleigh Hawk.

4331
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:07,640
Yeah.

4332
02:25:07,940 --> 02:25:09,200
We lost him.

4333
02:25:09,460 --> 02:25:09,580
Yeah.

4334
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:14,220
On March 26th, he had a large benign

4335
02:25:14,220 --> 02:25:17,040
brain tumor removed and the procedure went well

4336
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:19,160
and his recovery seemed to be off to

4337
02:25:19,160 --> 02:25:19,760
a great start.

4338
02:25:19,900 --> 02:25:22,940
Unfortunately, 12 days later, he collapsed at his

4339
02:25:22,940 --> 02:25:25,380
home on April 7th from what appeared to

4340
02:25:25,380 --> 02:25:27,460
be a seizure and a heart attack that

4341
02:25:27,460 --> 02:25:27,940
followed.

4342
02:25:28,120 --> 02:25:31,240
He never regained consciousness and passed officially on

4343
02:25:31,240 --> 02:25:33,740
April 13th at the age of 46.

4344
02:25:33,860 --> 02:25:34,840
No good.

4345
02:25:35,420 --> 02:25:36,080
Sudden death.

4346
02:25:37,740 --> 02:25:39,720
Raleigh punched me in the mouth back in

4347
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:40,280
2019.

4348
02:25:40,460 --> 02:25:41,880
I have been a no agenda listener and

4349
02:25:41,880 --> 02:25:44,580
a producer ever since Raleigh was a elder

4350
02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:45,280
at the church.

4351
02:25:45,380 --> 02:25:48,280
I ministered at for six years and a

4352
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:50,260
mentor and a very close friend.

4353
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:51,520
I'm a bit lost without him.

4354
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:53,860
And there are many people in Southern Illinois

4355
02:25:53,860 --> 02:25:55,520
mourning his loss.

4356
02:25:55,620 --> 02:25:58,200
Adam, when we noticed the beginning of your

4357
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:02,380
faith journey, Raleigh and I would often refer

4358
02:26:02,380 --> 02:26:05,180
to Mark 1234, where Jesus says you are

4359
02:26:05,180 --> 02:26:06,980
not far from the kingdom of God.

4360
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:11,000
So thankful to call you a brother in

4361
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:11,240
Christ.

4362
02:26:11,440 --> 02:26:15,780
Please keep his wife, Robin and daughter Maddie

4363
02:26:15,780 --> 02:26:18,300
in your prayers, health, karma, all around the

4364
02:26:18,300 --> 02:26:20,340
future surge prior Joe.

4365
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:20,980
Yes.

4366
02:26:21,320 --> 02:26:23,140
No, we're sorry that we lost him.

4367
02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:26,820
I've had many emails with the parents or

4368
02:26:26,820 --> 02:26:28,760
Lyman of the net Raleigh Hawk.

4369
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:29,580
Yes.

4370
02:26:29,700 --> 02:26:32,040
And yes, Robin and Maddie are in our

4371
02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:33,240
prayers as a Sir.

4372
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:34,000
Raleigh has graduated.

4373
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:37,180
And that is from Sir.

4374
02:26:37,300 --> 02:26:37,840
Future Sir.

4375
02:26:37,900 --> 02:26:38,580
Friar Joe.

4376
02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:40,840
Then we have David hominy.

4377
02:26:41,740 --> 02:26:44,500
We, I remember David haunting me broken arrow,

4378
02:26:44,660 --> 02:26:47,660
Oklahoma three 33 dot 33 resurrects it.

4379
02:26:47,740 --> 02:26:48,560
Seeker Dixit.

4380
02:26:48,740 --> 02:26:49,100
Hallelujah.

4381
02:26:49,820 --> 02:26:52,180
I'm sure I butchered that happy Easter to

4382
02:26:52,180 --> 02:26:52,940
no agenda nation.

4383
02:26:52,940 --> 02:26:55,100
My smoking hot wife, Kimberly, and I listened

4384
02:26:55,100 --> 02:26:57,560
to every show and love the media deconstruction

4385
02:26:57,560 --> 02:26:58,360
you both provide.

4386
02:26:58,740 --> 02:27:00,760
We would like to call our two people,

4387
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:01,940
Taylor and Jenna.

4388
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:03,440
Oh, as douchebags.

4389
02:27:05,840 --> 02:27:07,380
What am I doing?

4390
02:27:08,600 --> 02:27:11,580
It's the COVID it's the COVID for jingles.

4391
02:27:11,660 --> 02:27:13,900
We'd love Scott, Simon, Rev. Al respect in

4392
02:27:13,900 --> 02:27:14,220
China.

4393
02:27:14,360 --> 02:27:16,960
Asshole, no pagan karma, but made the risen

4394
02:27:16,960 --> 02:27:20,780
Lord bless all David and Kim hominy, broken

4395
02:27:20,780 --> 02:27:23,360
arrow, Oklahoma, suffering, suck a dash.

4396
02:27:23,460 --> 02:27:24,960
I'm Scott Simon.

4397
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:35,040
R E S P I C T.

4398
02:27:35,140 --> 02:27:35,580
Donald Trump.

4399
02:27:35,660 --> 02:27:36,440
Don't trust China.

4400
02:27:36,680 --> 02:27:37,140
China is.

4401
02:27:37,420 --> 02:27:38,620
Oh, all right.

4402
02:27:38,980 --> 02:27:39,460
Nice.

4403
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:43,820
Chris, I'm sorry, Charles Bosch.

4404
02:27:44,600 --> 02:27:47,820
You OCH in Scottsdale, Arizona, three, three, three

4405
02:27:47,820 --> 02:27:49,040
dot three, three, no note.

4406
02:27:49,580 --> 02:27:51,000
And so he'll get a double up karma.

4407
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:51,660
Indeed.

4408
02:27:51,660 --> 02:27:52,240
He does.

4409
02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:56,020
You've got karma.

4410
02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:00,940
David Arneson, Plymouth, Minnesota, three 33.

4411
02:28:01,280 --> 02:28:02,800
He says, I haven't donated in a while

4412
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:04,300
and I'm feeling guilty about it.

4413
02:28:05,500 --> 02:28:06,400
One question.

4414
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:08,620
Have you ever looked into the Karen Reed

4415
02:28:08,620 --> 02:28:09,120
case?

4416
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:11,860
Seems like a pretty shaky case against her.

4417
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:14,720
Here's an entertaining video on it, which I

4418
02:28:14,720 --> 02:28:16,820
immediately, when I got the spreadsheet, when I,

4419
02:28:16,860 --> 02:28:18,380
Oh, I'll watch this entertaining video.

4420
02:28:18,680 --> 02:28:19,160
Yeah.

4421
02:28:19,180 --> 02:28:20,080
56 minutes.

4422
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:20,480
Okay.

4423
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:22,180
I'll have to watch it later, but thank

4424
02:28:22,180 --> 02:28:24,520
you, David Arneson for your support of the

4425
02:28:24,520 --> 02:28:24,960
program.

4426
02:28:26,660 --> 02:28:29,160
Onward to associate executive producers.

4427
02:28:29,160 --> 02:28:32,840
Matthew Hodges starts us off from Burlington, Washington,

4428
02:28:33,320 --> 02:28:34,980
two 81 77.

4429
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:36,000
Hello.

4430
02:28:36,980 --> 02:28:37,640
Long time.

4431
02:28:38,200 --> 02:28:39,460
Intermittent listener.

4432
02:28:39,960 --> 02:28:40,720
First time donor.

4433
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:42,340
Please de-douche me.

4434
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:45,430
You've been de-douche.

4435
02:28:45,860 --> 02:28:48,440
I started listening again with all the Ukraine

4436
02:28:48,440 --> 02:28:49,320
stuff in the news.

4437
02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:49,860
This is funny.

4438
02:28:49,960 --> 02:28:51,520
I guess when most people stop, most people

4439
02:28:51,520 --> 02:28:54,540
left, you guys are Russian puppets.

4440
02:28:55,280 --> 02:28:59,620
I was almost brainwashed by their message.

4441
02:28:59,900 --> 02:29:01,800
Thank you for shrinking my amygdala.

4442
02:29:01,880 --> 02:29:03,360
May God bless you both.

4443
02:29:03,500 --> 02:29:04,080
Thank you.

4444
02:29:04,840 --> 02:29:06,960
Amy's up next with a short row of

4445
02:29:06,960 --> 02:29:10,680
ducks, two 22 from Leawood, Kansas, and it's

4446
02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:11,420
a switcheroo.

4447
02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:15,060
She says this donation is for Richard M

4448
02:29:15,060 --> 02:29:17,480
of Leawood, Kansas in honor of his birthday

4449
02:29:17,480 --> 02:29:18,220
on four 20.

4450
02:29:18,300 --> 02:29:18,940
Please de-douche.

4451
02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:22,300
You've been de-douche.

4452
02:29:22,300 --> 02:29:22,840
Okay.

4453
02:29:23,540 --> 02:29:24,700
We've got this switcheroo.

4454
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:27,800
Also play Obama, Adam's family.

4455
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:28,620
No, no, no, no.

4456
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:29,580
Keep up the good work.

4457
02:29:29,700 --> 02:29:30,020
Okay.

4458
02:29:30,320 --> 02:29:31,000
You know what?

4459
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:39,480
Listen.

4460
02:29:40,060 --> 02:29:43,020
You're in my house drinking the booze.

4461
02:29:46,480 --> 02:29:47,260
Shame on you.

4462
02:29:48,720 --> 02:29:51,220
You know, back in the day, John, I

4463
02:29:51,220 --> 02:29:53,380
think the producers just did more work for

4464
02:29:53,380 --> 02:29:53,800
the show.

4465
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:57,020
There was a lot of great jingles and

4466
02:29:57,020 --> 02:29:57,380
stuff.

4467
02:29:58,080 --> 02:29:59,520
Just seems like there was more then.

4468
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:00,200
I don't know.

4469
02:30:00,740 --> 02:30:01,520
It's a cycle.

4470
02:30:02,300 --> 02:30:03,600
It's a very long cycle.

4471
02:30:03,940 --> 02:30:06,040
It's a very long cycle, and we're at

4472
02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:07,220
the depths of the bottom.

4473
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:09,660
All right.

4474
02:30:10,340 --> 02:30:12,060
Yeah, that stuff was a lot better.

4475
02:30:12,900 --> 02:30:14,340
I mean, it was catchy.

4476
02:30:14,480 --> 02:30:17,280
We had people that had, I think maybe,

4477
02:30:17,420 --> 02:30:17,840
I don't know.

4478
02:30:17,860 --> 02:30:18,260
They had rhythm.

4479
02:30:18,280 --> 02:30:18,860
It's hard to say.

4480
02:30:18,860 --> 02:30:19,180
You know what?

4481
02:30:19,180 --> 02:30:20,300
It's before AI.

4482
02:30:20,560 --> 02:30:22,500
When people, you had to have rhythm, you

4483
02:30:22,500 --> 02:30:24,060
had to have chops to make something.

4484
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:25,480
I think, you know, you might, I would

4485
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:26,200
give you that one.

4486
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:29,080
AI might be partly responsible.

4487
02:30:29,380 --> 02:30:31,800
It's hurting everything that's creative.

4488
02:30:33,380 --> 02:30:33,640
Cotton gin.

4489
02:30:33,660 --> 02:30:34,500
Or maybe it's helping.

4490
02:30:34,740 --> 02:30:37,160
Cotton gin says, maybe that speaks to the

4491
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:38,560
quality of the show lately.

4492
02:30:42,650 --> 02:30:43,390
Maybe it does.

4493
02:30:43,630 --> 02:30:44,350
Maybe it does.

4494
02:30:44,770 --> 02:30:45,570
So why is he listening?

4495
02:30:45,650 --> 02:30:45,910
I don't know.

4496
02:30:45,970 --> 02:30:46,410
What are you doing, Cotton Gin?

4497
02:30:46,410 --> 02:30:48,050
Eli the Coffee Guy is still listening.

4498
02:30:48,170 --> 02:30:49,450
That's all that counts as far as I'm

4499
02:30:49,450 --> 02:30:49,710
concerned.

4500
02:30:49,710 --> 02:30:53,290
He's in Bensonville, Illinois at $204.20. And

4501
02:30:53,290 --> 02:30:55,610
he says, Happy Easter or 420 or both.

4502
02:30:55,970 --> 02:30:59,570
Regardless, let's all enjoy the blessings that the

4503
02:30:59,570 --> 02:31:01,650
good Lord has bestowed upon us also.

4504
02:31:02,010 --> 02:31:03,250
Happy Patriots Day.

4505
02:31:03,350 --> 02:31:05,030
April 18th and 19th.

4506
02:31:05,130 --> 02:31:07,850
Commemorate the ride of Paul Revere and the

4507
02:31:07,850 --> 02:31:09,750
Battle of Lexington and Concord.

4508
02:31:10,090 --> 02:31:13,050
And then don't forget, April 20th is Marshall

4509
02:31:13,050 --> 02:31:13,930
Law Day.

4510
02:31:14,530 --> 02:31:17,310
With all these great occasions to celebrate, we

4511
02:31:17,310 --> 02:31:20,490
suggest you enjoy a fine cup of coffee.

4512
02:31:21,130 --> 02:31:21,690
Ask Adam.

4513
02:31:21,950 --> 02:31:25,650
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20

4514
02:31:25,650 --> 02:31:27,230
for 20% off your order.

4515
02:31:27,330 --> 02:31:29,950
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.

4516
02:31:30,130 --> 02:31:32,990
And as a special donation segment extra clip,

4517
02:31:33,090 --> 02:31:35,790
here is a local news report about those

4518
02:31:35,790 --> 02:31:36,830
very reenactments.

4519
02:31:36,910 --> 02:31:40,230
It has indeed been 250 years since Paul

4520
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:43,250
Revere rode and the Battle of Lexington and

4521
02:31:43,250 --> 02:31:43,730
Concord.

4522
02:31:43,910 --> 02:31:46,490
Lay down your arms!

4523
02:31:46,490 --> 02:31:48,690
The spicy rebels disperse!

4524
02:31:48,950 --> 02:31:50,230
With the field!

4525
02:31:51,070 --> 02:31:53,890
The Lexington Minutemen took to the battle green,

4526
02:31:54,030 --> 02:31:56,970
conducting the reenactment of the Battle of Lexington.

4527
02:31:57,470 --> 02:32:01,310
More than 300 British soldiers came here to

4528
02:32:01,310 --> 02:32:04,330
Lexington, literally from overseas, to take part in

4529
02:32:04,330 --> 02:32:05,590
this historic reenactment.

4530
02:32:06,050 --> 02:32:08,530
Eight Americans we know were killed, several others

4531
02:32:08,530 --> 02:32:11,130
wounded, and it all happened 250 years ago

4532
02:32:11,130 --> 02:32:11,630
today, Jordan.

4533
02:32:11,950 --> 02:32:15,050
Then Concord also marked the battle with a

4534
02:32:15,050 --> 02:32:17,290
dawn salute, and check this out.

4535
02:32:17,530 --> 02:32:19,510
Right now we're expecting to see some cannons

4536
02:32:19,510 --> 02:32:21,650
and potentially some muskets fire off.

4537
02:32:23,110 --> 02:32:25,030
Or maybe right now.

4538
02:32:26,870 --> 02:32:28,430
How's that for timing?

4539
02:32:28,890 --> 02:32:31,050
That is exactly the moment I wanted us

4540
02:32:31,050 --> 02:32:33,250
all to see in replay for when Mike

4541
02:32:33,250 --> 02:32:34,570
heard that cannon go off.

4542
02:32:34,890 --> 02:32:35,470
Too funny.

4543
02:32:35,810 --> 02:32:39,010
Yes, such a great tribute to the...

4544
02:32:39,010 --> 02:32:41,130
Yeah, he's now deaf, by the way, we

4545
02:32:41,130 --> 02:32:41,870
should mention that.

4546
02:32:42,870 --> 02:32:44,430
I went to Lexington Green.

4547
02:32:44,670 --> 02:32:47,570
It's a very impressive place.

4548
02:32:48,130 --> 02:32:49,730
The shot heard around the world.

4549
02:32:49,910 --> 02:32:50,690
Look it up, people.

4550
02:32:50,910 --> 02:32:51,790
We're going to get a lot of these

4551
02:32:51,790 --> 02:32:53,810
250-year things in the next year.

4552
02:32:54,570 --> 02:32:57,290
A lot of things happened between this weekend.

4553
02:32:57,490 --> 02:32:57,690
Now and then.

4554
02:32:57,830 --> 02:32:58,930
Now and then, that's right.

4555
02:32:59,510 --> 02:33:02,510
Pat Eckert is in Rochester, Minnesota, $200 associate

4556
02:33:02,510 --> 02:33:05,490
executive producer for Pat, and Pat says, Show

4557
02:33:05,490 --> 02:33:08,810
1757 match week just happened in March for

4558
02:33:08,810 --> 02:33:11,710
resident doctors, where residents are informed of their

4559
02:33:11,710 --> 02:33:13,070
residency placements.

4560
02:33:13,610 --> 02:33:17,270
Oh, okay, this is a native ad.

4561
02:33:17,830 --> 02:33:20,530
I'm seeking a renter in Rochester, Minnesota for

4562
02:33:20,530 --> 02:33:23,430
a three-bedroom, 1.5-bath home for

4563
02:33:23,430 --> 02:33:25,690
rent featuring a one-car attached garage.

4564
02:33:26,050 --> 02:33:28,750
Priced at $2,000 per month, this property

4565
02:33:28,750 --> 02:33:30,850
is situated on a one-acre lot on

4566
02:33:30,850 --> 02:33:32,590
the edge of town in Rochester, Minnesota.

4567
02:33:32,790 --> 02:33:35,390
To view pictures and obtain additional information, please

4568
02:33:35,390 --> 02:33:39,670
search for 1225 Robin Lane, southeast Rochester, Minnesota

4569
02:33:39,670 --> 02:33:41,350
on Zillow.com.

4570
02:33:41,470 --> 02:33:43,970
As a special offer, mention the code name

4571
02:33:43,970 --> 02:33:47,110
Bongino to receive $100 per month discount.

4572
02:33:47,430 --> 02:33:48,970
Well, how about that for a deal?

4573
02:33:49,370 --> 02:33:51,550
Thank you for your diligent effort, boys.

4574
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:52,950
Thank you, Pat.

4575
02:33:54,070 --> 02:33:55,990
We're now the classifieds.

4576
02:33:56,030 --> 02:33:57,090
We're Zillow, basically.

4577
02:33:57,430 --> 02:33:58,810
We're classified.

4578
02:33:59,210 --> 02:34:01,090
We've always been the classifieds.

4579
02:34:01,430 --> 02:34:03,590
Well, talking about that sort of thing, we

4580
02:34:03,590 --> 02:34:05,790
have Linda Lou Patkin, who's last on our

4581
02:34:05,790 --> 02:34:09,270
list of associate executive producers from Lakewood, Colorado

4582
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:09,670
at $200.

4583
02:34:10,430 --> 02:34:13,530
And she promotes herself by asking for jobs,

4584
02:34:13,690 --> 02:34:16,610
Carmen, and says for a competitive edge with

4585
02:34:16,610 --> 02:34:19,090
a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc

4586
02:34:19,090 --> 02:34:19,530
.com.

4587
02:34:19,610 --> 02:34:21,190
That's ImageMakersInc with a K.

4588
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:25,050
For all your executive resume and job search

4589
02:34:25,050 --> 02:34:25,750
needs.

4590
02:34:26,390 --> 02:34:28,430
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

4591
02:34:28,430 --> 02:34:30,230
and writer of resumes.

4592
02:34:30,590 --> 02:34:34,030
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4593
02:34:34,210 --> 02:34:35,710
Let's vote for jobs.

4594
02:34:37,630 --> 02:34:38,150
Carmen.

4595
02:34:38,450 --> 02:34:39,830
Yes, we love Linda Lou.

4596
02:34:39,970 --> 02:34:42,790
We love Eli, the coffee guy.

4597
02:34:42,890 --> 02:34:44,690
They're always there to help us out.

4598
02:34:45,010 --> 02:34:46,390
And it must be working for them.

4599
02:34:46,510 --> 02:34:47,850
So we're very happy with this arrangement.

4600
02:34:48,690 --> 02:34:51,310
And I love the gigawatt coffee.

4601
02:34:51,570 --> 02:34:52,470
And luckily, I've never.

4602
02:34:52,470 --> 02:34:53,370
I love my truck.

4603
02:34:53,490 --> 02:34:56,090
Luckily, I've never, ever needed Linda Lou.

4604
02:34:56,790 --> 02:34:59,090
But maybe in four more years, I know

4605
02:34:59,090 --> 02:35:01,230
who to go to when I am ready

4606
02:35:01,230 --> 02:35:03,410
for my executive job search needs.

4607
02:35:03,870 --> 02:35:06,150
Thank you to these executive and associate executive

4608
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:06,490
producers.

4609
02:35:06,910 --> 02:35:08,450
And a reminder, we'll thank the rest of

4610
02:35:08,450 --> 02:35:10,570
our $50 and above donors in our second

4611
02:35:10,570 --> 02:35:10,890
segment.

4612
02:35:10,970 --> 02:35:12,630
And thank you all for those of you

4613
02:35:12,630 --> 02:35:14,810
who have set up a recurring donation.

4614
02:35:14,950 --> 02:35:16,870
You can go to NoAgendaDonations.com.

4615
02:35:16,930 --> 02:35:19,730
You set up any amount, any frequency.

4616
02:35:19,870 --> 02:35:20,650
It's all up to you.

4617
02:35:20,710 --> 02:35:21,590
It's value for value.

4618
02:35:21,690 --> 02:35:22,910
We love the numerology.

4619
02:35:23,090 --> 02:35:23,650
Keep it coming.

4620
02:35:24,010 --> 02:35:24,690
Support us.

4621
02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:26,390
The best podcast in the university.

4622
02:35:26,650 --> 02:35:27,850
No Agenda Show.

4623
02:35:27,970 --> 02:35:29,230
Our formula is this.

4624
02:35:30,050 --> 02:35:32,370
We go out, we hit people in the

4625
02:35:32,370 --> 02:35:32,550
mouth.

4626
02:35:36,910 --> 02:35:43,550
♪♪ ♪♪ Shut up.

4627
02:35:45,210 --> 02:35:49,670
♪♪ Zippity-doo-dah.

4628
02:35:49,930 --> 02:35:53,030
Hey, I got some very disturbing, disturbing news.

4629
02:35:53,250 --> 02:35:55,210
Disturbing news about COVID.

4630
02:35:56,110 --> 02:35:56,470
COVID.

4631
02:35:56,670 --> 02:35:59,170
Trump administration has gone off the rails.

4632
02:36:00,110 --> 02:36:01,930
Did you see COVID.gov?

4633
02:36:03,650 --> 02:36:04,990
No, I did not see COVID.

4634
02:36:05,110 --> 02:36:06,090
Should I go look at it now?

4635
02:36:06,190 --> 02:36:08,270
You should go to COVID.gov. COVID.gov

4636
02:36:08,270 --> 02:36:09,370
is where you should be able to get

4637
02:36:09,370 --> 02:36:11,330
information about vaccinations.

4638
02:36:11,670 --> 02:36:13,670
We should be able to get information about

4639
02:36:13,670 --> 02:36:17,810
all kinds of things, except ivermectin, where you

4640
02:36:17,810 --> 02:36:19,310
can get free tests from the government.

4641
02:36:19,390 --> 02:36:20,810
But no, that has changed.

4642
02:36:20,930 --> 02:36:24,310
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, joining

4643
02:36:24,310 --> 02:36:26,570
us now to talk about these findings.

4644
02:36:26,650 --> 02:36:29,630
Let's talk about the White House Did you

4645
02:36:29,630 --> 02:36:30,530
see COVID.gov?

4646
02:36:30,610 --> 02:36:31,650
Do you see what it says now?

4647
02:36:32,310 --> 02:36:33,550
Yes, this has been floating.

4648
02:36:33,650 --> 02:36:34,990
This image has been floating around.

4649
02:36:35,170 --> 02:36:38,650
I don't understand why Trump has to be

4650
02:36:38,650 --> 02:36:40,450
in the image unless he's the leak.

4651
02:36:41,890 --> 02:36:44,650
Well, let's go to Selene Gounder from CBS

4652
02:36:44,650 --> 02:36:46,890
to understand if this is a problem.

4653
02:36:47,070 --> 02:36:51,770
If you haven't seen COVID.gov, definitely go

4654
02:36:51,770 --> 02:36:52,390
check it out.

4655
02:36:52,590 --> 02:36:55,110
Has the entire report on COVID coming from

4656
02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:58,510
a lab leak in China, not some pangolin

4657
02:36:58,510 --> 02:37:00,330
or some bat from a wet market?

4658
02:37:00,850 --> 02:37:04,390
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, joining

4659
02:37:04,390 --> 02:37:06,630
us now to talk about these findings.

4660
02:37:06,770 --> 02:37:08,750
Let's talk about the White House and the

4661
02:37:08,750 --> 02:37:12,990
2024 congressional report specifically saying COVID-19 most

4662
02:37:12,990 --> 02:37:16,010
likely came from a lab leak in China,

4663
02:37:16,010 --> 02:37:18,430
but many scientists still lean towards the natural

4664
02:37:18,430 --> 02:37:18,930
origin.

4665
02:37:19,150 --> 02:37:20,930
So unpack all of that for us.

4666
02:37:21,250 --> 02:37:23,650
So there's no smoking gun really for either

4667
02:37:23,650 --> 02:37:27,570
theory, but the strongest scientific evidence points to

4668
02:37:27,570 --> 02:37:30,630
a natural spillover, most likely at that wet

4669
02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:32,110
market in Wuhan in China.

4670
02:37:32,430 --> 02:37:35,250
So she's just going head on against it.

4671
02:37:35,330 --> 02:37:38,390
Live animals that are known to carry coronaviruses.

4672
02:37:38,670 --> 02:37:39,810
Hold on, stop.

4673
02:37:40,370 --> 02:37:42,110
I want to mention one thing with this

4674
02:37:42,110 --> 02:37:45,850
thesis of hers that's old and stale.

4675
02:37:46,250 --> 02:37:50,030
They could never find this so-called animal

4676
02:37:50,030 --> 02:37:53,070
that had this disease ever.

4677
02:37:53,070 --> 02:37:55,870
They've never found it in the wild on

4678
02:37:55,870 --> 02:37:58,030
any animal that's got the wet market right

4679
02:37:58,030 --> 02:37:58,250
there.

4680
02:37:58,310 --> 02:37:59,190
They can go through everything.

4681
02:37:59,310 --> 02:37:59,890
They could check.

4682
02:38:00,290 --> 02:38:00,470
Yep.

4683
02:38:03,170 --> 02:38:03,550
You done?

4684
02:38:04,050 --> 02:38:04,930
Yeah, I'm done.

4685
02:38:04,990 --> 02:38:07,810
In Wuhan in China where live animals that

4686
02:38:07,810 --> 02:38:11,050
are known to carry coronaviruses were being sold.

4687
02:38:11,550 --> 02:38:15,830
There was genetic material from infected animals, including

4688
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:18,370
raccoon dogs that was found in the same

4689
02:38:18,370 --> 02:38:21,070
places where the virus was first detected at

4690
02:38:21,070 --> 02:38:21,510
that market.

4691
02:38:21,610 --> 02:38:21,810
Wow.

4692
02:38:21,930 --> 02:38:24,490
Raccoon dogs didn't even play during COVID and

4693
02:38:24,490 --> 02:38:25,330
she's bringing that out.

4694
02:38:25,450 --> 02:38:26,070
That's amazing.

4695
02:38:26,510 --> 02:38:29,050
And there's no direct evidence that the virus

4696
02:38:29,050 --> 02:38:30,330
came from a lab.

4697
02:38:30,410 --> 02:38:31,250
This is a new one, John.

4698
02:38:31,330 --> 02:38:31,990
It's a new variant.

4699
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:33,870
Not just no evidence.

4700
02:38:34,010 --> 02:38:35,510
There's no direct evidence.

4701
02:38:36,110 --> 02:38:37,210
This is very tricky.

4702
02:38:37,590 --> 02:38:40,130
In places where the virus was first detected.

4703
02:38:40,130 --> 02:38:40,850
Wait, stop this clip.

4704
02:38:41,750 --> 02:38:42,710
This came from what?

4705
02:38:42,850 --> 02:38:43,310
The CBS?

4706
02:38:43,850 --> 02:38:45,370
Yes, Dr. Celine Gounder.

4707
02:38:46,010 --> 02:38:46,490
CBS.

4708
02:38:46,950 --> 02:38:47,110
Okay.

4709
02:38:47,290 --> 02:38:48,350
Yes, yes, CBS.

4710
02:38:49,090 --> 02:38:50,230
Yes, you know CBS.

4711
02:38:50,950 --> 02:38:52,890
This is the CIA's report.

4712
02:38:53,110 --> 02:38:53,530
At that market.

4713
02:38:53,530 --> 02:38:57,130
But why are they going back to this

4714
02:38:57,130 --> 02:38:58,010
old bromide?

4715
02:38:58,670 --> 02:39:00,770
Let's see if the clip gives us some

4716
02:39:00,770 --> 02:39:01,150
insight.

4717
02:39:01,430 --> 02:39:04,050
And there's no direct evidence that the virus

4718
02:39:04,050 --> 02:39:05,350
came from a lab.

4719
02:39:05,950 --> 02:39:08,350
U.S. intelligence reports say the Wuhan lab

4720
02:39:08,350 --> 02:39:10,210
did not have SARS-CoV-2.

4721
02:39:10,490 --> 02:39:11,610
How about this for a theory?

4722
02:39:12,250 --> 02:39:14,330
How about there never was COVID, it was

4723
02:39:14,330 --> 02:39:16,370
just the flu, and she's not lying.

4724
02:39:16,690 --> 02:39:19,150
There was no direct evidence for COVID from

4725
02:39:19,150 --> 02:39:19,450
a lab.

4726
02:39:19,550 --> 02:39:20,710
No, maybe it was just the flu.

4727
02:39:20,710 --> 02:39:22,450
Remember, the flu was gone.

4728
02:39:22,450 --> 02:39:23,990
There was no flu.

4729
02:39:24,650 --> 02:39:25,470
Flu was zero.

4730
02:39:25,630 --> 02:39:26,750
Zero cases of flu.

4731
02:39:27,190 --> 02:39:28,370
Everybody had COVID.

4732
02:39:29,250 --> 02:39:30,770
Right, and then they were killing them off

4733
02:39:30,770 --> 02:39:31,510
with the ventilators.

4734
02:39:31,710 --> 02:39:34,270
Yes, and remdesivir and all kinds of other

4735
02:39:34,270 --> 02:39:34,850
nastiness.

4736
02:39:35,250 --> 02:39:37,870
Maybe, and with just an unhealthy population.

4737
02:39:38,590 --> 02:39:39,690
So maybe she's right.

4738
02:39:39,790 --> 02:39:41,850
Maybe there was no COVID from the lab,

4739
02:39:41,910 --> 02:39:44,210
or from the pangolin, or the raccoon dog,

4740
02:39:44,210 --> 02:39:44,790
or anything.

4741
02:39:45,290 --> 02:39:46,470
I have COVID now.

4742
02:39:47,010 --> 02:39:47,870
I'm a living.

4743
02:39:48,170 --> 02:39:50,890
The virus that causes COVID, or a close

4744
02:39:50,890 --> 02:39:53,470
precursor even, before the pandemic started.

4745
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:56,310
Okay, so the government claims the virus contains

4746
02:39:56,310 --> 02:39:58,390
a genetic feature that does- Did she

4747
02:39:58,390 --> 02:39:59,030
say government?

4748
02:40:00,030 --> 02:40:00,970
Go ahead again.

4749
02:40:01,070 --> 02:40:02,470
It sounded like she said the government.

4750
02:40:03,030 --> 02:40:05,470
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID,

4751
02:40:05,770 --> 02:40:08,990
or a close precursor even, before the pandemic

4752
02:40:08,990 --> 02:40:09,470
started.

4753
02:40:10,030 --> 02:40:12,350
Okay, so the government claims the virus-

4754
02:40:12,350 --> 02:40:12,450
Government.

4755
02:40:12,570 --> 02:40:13,630
She said government.

4756
02:40:14,430 --> 02:40:15,770
Yeah, she said government.

4757
02:40:15,850 --> 02:40:16,090
Government.

4758
02:40:16,390 --> 02:40:18,630
Okay, so the government claims the virus contains

4759
02:40:18,630 --> 02:40:22,250
a genetic feature that does not exist in

4760
02:40:22,250 --> 02:40:22,610
nature.

4761
02:40:22,730 --> 02:40:23,350
Is that accurate?

4762
02:40:23,950 --> 02:40:26,290
So that claim is misleading, because they're talking

4763
02:40:26,290 --> 02:40:28,930
about a part of the virus, what's called

4764
02:40:28,930 --> 02:40:30,410
the furin cleavage site.

4765
02:40:30,750 --> 02:40:30,850
Cleavage?

4766
02:40:30,870 --> 02:40:33,470
Which helps the virus to infect human cells.

4767
02:40:33,650 --> 02:40:36,270
And it was unusual when scientists first saw

4768
02:40:36,270 --> 02:40:38,130
this, but that's because they didn't know to

4769
02:40:38,130 --> 02:40:38,770
look for it.

4770
02:40:39,310 --> 02:40:43,770
And since then we've- I love this.

4771
02:40:44,190 --> 02:40:45,050
I love this.

4772
02:40:45,170 --> 02:40:48,110
And since then we've learned that similar furin

4773
02:40:48,110 --> 02:40:50,750
cleavage sites are found in other coronaviruses that

4774
02:40:50,750 --> 02:40:52,830
infect animals.

4775
02:40:53,130 --> 02:40:55,730
So this is not a proof of virus

4776
02:40:55,730 --> 02:40:56,310
engineering.

4777
02:40:56,530 --> 02:40:58,870
It's really something that can occur naturally.

4778
02:40:59,110 --> 02:41:00,010
Yes, like the flu.

4779
02:41:00,530 --> 02:41:03,290
So this change of the website, this has

4780
02:41:03,290 --> 02:41:04,750
got to be concerning for you, doctor.

4781
02:41:05,110 --> 02:41:07,430
Okay, so CBS News reports the Trump administration

4782
02:41:07,430 --> 02:41:09,810
actually replaced government websites- Government.

4783
02:41:09,890 --> 02:41:10,670
Another government.

4784
02:41:10,890 --> 02:41:12,770
She's talking about government websites.

4785
02:41:12,990 --> 02:41:13,170
Government.

4786
02:41:13,310 --> 02:41:18,370
Replaced government websites with simplified messaging focused on

4787
02:41:18,370 --> 02:41:20,470
the lab- Simplified messaging.

4788
02:41:20,910 --> 02:41:21,970
Leak theory.

4789
02:41:22,190 --> 02:41:23,390
Is that concerning?

4790
02:41:23,810 --> 02:41:25,990
Well, it is concerning because- Should you

4791
02:41:25,990 --> 02:41:26,630
be concerned?

4792
02:41:27,130 --> 02:41:28,110
It's very concerning.

4793
02:41:28,250 --> 02:41:30,910
Communication should really be grounded in facts, in

4794
02:41:30,910 --> 02:41:33,810
science, questions even, but not politics.

4795
02:41:34,210 --> 02:41:38,570
And replacing nuanced scientific content with a single

4796
02:41:38,570 --> 02:41:42,730
unproven narrative is really misleading to the public.

4797
02:41:42,970 --> 02:41:46,430
And it does undermine trust in government guidance.

4798
02:41:46,650 --> 02:41:49,090
And so if you have another pandemic or

4799
02:41:49,090 --> 02:41:51,250
other crisis hit, you want the public to

4800
02:41:51,250 --> 02:41:53,130
feel like they can trust the information they're

4801
02:41:53,130 --> 02:41:53,610
being given.

4802
02:41:53,770 --> 02:41:56,350
And this really does undermine that trust.

4803
02:41:56,570 --> 02:41:59,130
That train left the station years ago, lady.

4804
02:41:59,710 --> 02:42:01,370
Nobody trusts the government no more.

4805
02:42:01,750 --> 02:42:02,990
Uh-uh, that's all over.

4806
02:42:03,690 --> 02:42:06,670
Even Australia was just blown away by this.

4807
02:42:06,810 --> 02:42:09,590
And U.S. President Donald Trump has sensationally

4808
02:42:09,590 --> 02:42:12,690
transformed a government website that once contained resources

4809
02:42:12,690 --> 02:42:13,610
for COVID-19.

4810
02:42:13,690 --> 02:42:15,990
And he's turned it into a promotional page

4811
02:42:15,990 --> 02:42:17,070
for the lab leak theory.

4812
02:42:17,230 --> 02:42:20,790
COVID.gov no longer holds info on vaccines,

4813
02:42:20,930 --> 02:42:24,070
testing, treatments, but instead traces the virus to

4814
02:42:24,070 --> 02:42:26,870
Wuhan in China and accuses key public figures

4815
02:42:26,870 --> 02:42:28,910
there of pushing a preferred narrative.

4816
02:42:29,470 --> 02:42:30,870
To tell us more about this, we're joined

4817
02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:33,150
by political scientist Simon Jackman in studio.

4818
02:42:33,350 --> 02:42:34,690
Simon, good to see you as always.

4819
02:42:34,890 --> 02:42:35,230
Thank you.

4820
02:42:35,350 --> 02:42:36,910
What are some of the big claims being

4821
02:42:36,910 --> 02:42:38,170
made on this site right now?

4822
02:42:38,430 --> 02:42:38,570
Claims.

4823
02:42:38,730 --> 02:42:40,890
Well, it revives the so-called lab leak

4824
02:42:40,890 --> 02:42:42,290
thesis, number one.

4825
02:42:42,750 --> 02:42:44,990
And in particular, it goes very hard-

4826
02:42:44,990 --> 02:42:45,810
Hold on a second.

4827
02:42:46,390 --> 02:42:48,570
I thought that we already transferred to the

4828
02:42:48,570 --> 02:42:51,670
lab leak thesis over a year ago.

4829
02:42:51,870 --> 02:42:52,150
No.

4830
02:42:52,610 --> 02:42:54,150
So you don't- How do you revive

4831
02:42:54,150 --> 02:42:55,950
something that is the standard thesis?

4832
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:58,870
It's not- This is- What are

4833
02:42:58,870 --> 02:43:00,310
these guys trying to do here?

4834
02:43:00,410 --> 02:43:01,210
Rewrite history?

4835
02:43:01,450 --> 02:43:01,970
Gaslight.

4836
02:43:02,870 --> 02:43:03,430
Gaslight.

4837
02:43:03,490 --> 02:43:04,470
Gaslight, of course.

4838
02:43:05,290 --> 02:43:07,110
But for what end?

4839
02:43:07,390 --> 02:43:12,350
Well, because Australia was one of the most

4840
02:43:12,350 --> 02:43:14,110
locked down countries in the world.

4841
02:43:14,110 --> 02:43:17,530
They can't- The mainstream, the M5M, the

4842
02:43:17,530 --> 02:43:20,850
government, they cannot admit that they were wrong

4843
02:43:20,850 --> 02:43:25,690
in any aspect of this because then people

4844
02:43:25,690 --> 02:43:27,370
might try and kill them.

4845
02:43:28,430 --> 02:43:29,470
Or whatever.

4846
02:43:29,650 --> 02:43:29,910
Yes.

4847
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:30,170
Okay.

4848
02:43:30,290 --> 02:43:30,470
Yeah.

4849
02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:31,830
Doesn't that make sense?

4850
02:43:31,950 --> 02:43:32,850
Yes, I think it does.

4851
02:43:32,990 --> 02:43:35,890
Against people who were in the Biden administration,

4852
02:43:36,090 --> 02:43:38,390
and indeed in some cases in Trump Mark

4853
02:43:38,390 --> 02:43:41,910
I, charged with taking care of this pandemic.

4854
02:43:42,510 --> 02:43:43,690
Yes, Trump Mark I.

4855
02:43:43,690 --> 02:43:44,890
I like Mark I.

4856
02:43:44,930 --> 02:43:45,910
I like Mark I, too.

4857
02:43:46,010 --> 02:43:48,370
Trump Mark I, Mark II, Mark I.

4858
02:43:48,550 --> 02:43:51,790
Charged with taking care of this pandemic, Dr.

4859
02:43:51,890 --> 02:43:52,870
Fauci in particular.

4860
02:43:53,330 --> 02:43:54,810
It goes very hard at him.

4861
02:43:55,010 --> 02:43:57,110
It goes very hard at people working alongside

4862
02:43:57,110 --> 02:43:57,330
him.

4863
02:43:57,410 --> 02:44:00,310
Indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public

4864
02:44:00,310 --> 02:44:02,090
health at the time- Did you see

4865
02:44:02,090 --> 02:44:02,770
what he's talking about?

4866
02:44:03,010 --> 02:44:03,670
Ha ha ha ha ha.

4867
02:44:04,130 --> 02:44:05,610
We were- Wow.

4868
02:44:06,190 --> 02:44:08,690
Because anyone who was running public health at

4869
02:44:08,690 --> 02:44:11,270
the time, the mainstream media was part of

4870
02:44:11,270 --> 02:44:12,350
public health at the time.

4871
02:44:12,410 --> 02:44:13,130
That's why he's laughing.

4872
02:44:13,130 --> 02:44:13,990
Ha ha ha.

4873
02:44:14,110 --> 02:44:15,730
Don't come and kill me, Aussies.

4874
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:16,610
Very hard at him.

4875
02:44:16,850 --> 02:44:18,890
It goes very hard at people working alongside

4876
02:44:18,890 --> 02:44:19,130
him.

4877
02:44:19,230 --> 02:44:22,090
Indeed, anybody who was running, I think, public

4878
02:44:22,090 --> 02:44:24,390
health at the time, come in for a

4879
02:44:24,390 --> 02:44:24,930
serve there.

4880
02:44:25,050 --> 02:44:28,630
They have essentially taken a report by the

4881
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:31,950
Republican-controlled House of Representatives and put that

4882
02:44:31,950 --> 02:44:34,830
up almost in its entirety as now, as

4883
02:44:34,830 --> 02:44:36,370
we said in the intro there.

4884
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:38,330
That is what the US government is putting

4885
02:44:38,330 --> 02:44:40,910
forward with respect to information about COVID now,

4886
02:44:41,270 --> 02:44:43,510
never mind the fact that hundreds of people

4887
02:44:43,510 --> 02:44:45,290
a week across the United States are still

4888
02:44:45,290 --> 02:44:46,570
dying from COVID.

4889
02:44:46,770 --> 02:44:48,790
Still dying from COVID.

4890
02:44:49,030 --> 02:44:49,750
Or with COVID.

4891
02:44:49,910 --> 02:44:50,570
Or of COVID.

4892
02:44:50,730 --> 02:44:51,450
What was it?

4893
02:44:52,470 --> 02:44:54,510
People are dying- Yeah.

4894
02:44:57,000 --> 02:44:59,460
Hundreds a week are now still dying from

4895
02:44:59,460 --> 02:44:59,960
COVID.

4896
02:45:00,740 --> 02:45:00,840
Yes.

4897
02:45:01,600 --> 02:45:01,920
They are?

4898
02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:06,040
Well, people die from pneumonia.

4899
02:45:06,380 --> 02:45:08,220
Yes, hundreds die from pneumonia.

4900
02:45:09,060 --> 02:45:10,040
That's not COVID.

4901
02:45:10,460 --> 02:45:11,600
No, of course not.

4902
02:45:11,740 --> 02:45:13,940
People didn't- They died with COVID.

4903
02:45:14,940 --> 02:45:15,580
We all know.

4904
02:45:15,700 --> 02:45:16,180
We all know.

4905
02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:16,860
We were there.

4906
02:45:17,360 --> 02:45:19,660
We are not going to let the M5M

4907
02:45:19,660 --> 02:45:20,820
change our mind.

4908
02:45:21,760 --> 02:45:24,420
A note from the constitutional lawyer, Rob.

4909
02:45:24,540 --> 02:45:27,080
Adam, life imitates no agenda.

4910
02:45:27,880 --> 02:45:30,060
Y'all have discussed all the ozempic marketing,

4911
02:45:30,180 --> 02:45:31,900
the efforts to get it covered by insurance,

4912
02:45:32,020 --> 02:45:34,400
the health risks that these drugs entail, and

4913
02:45:34,400 --> 02:45:37,500
the abject lack of transparency shrouding the whole

4914
02:45:37,500 --> 02:45:38,080
operation.

4915
02:45:38,420 --> 02:45:40,820
You even talked about ozempic-induced blindness.

4916
02:45:40,820 --> 02:45:43,640
Well, now there's a lawsuit in New Jersey

4917
02:45:43,640 --> 02:45:46,800
claiming that ozempic made a woman go blind

4918
02:45:46,800 --> 02:45:51,420
by inducing a condition called non-arteritic anterior

4919
02:45:51,420 --> 02:45:54,980
ischemic optic neuropathy.

4920
02:45:55,880 --> 02:45:56,680
Ischemic.

4921
02:45:57,060 --> 02:45:57,520
Ischemic?

4922
02:45:58,080 --> 02:45:58,580
I think.

4923
02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:00,700
It's I-S-C-H, isn't it?

4924
02:46:01,200 --> 02:46:02,000
Ischemic.

4925
02:46:02,400 --> 02:46:10,460
Non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy, or NION.

4926
02:46:11,140 --> 02:46:12,360
N-A-I-O-N.

4927
02:46:13,780 --> 02:46:17,220
According to the lawsuit, NION happens suddenly, often

4928
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:19,440
when people wake up blind in one eye.

4929
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:22,640
It's irreversible, and 15% of the time

4930
02:46:22,640 --> 02:46:24,200
it spreads to the other eye.

4931
02:46:24,980 --> 02:46:26,220
According to the lawsuit, Novo...

4932
02:46:26,220 --> 02:46:27,180
This isn't good.

4933
02:46:27,500 --> 02:46:30,040
According to the lawsuit, Novo Nordisk had a

4934
02:46:30,040 --> 02:46:32,760
lot of evidence linking ozempic to NION but

4935
02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:34,320
failed to warn anyone.

4936
02:46:35,200 --> 02:46:37,700
At the same time, Novo Nordisk was spending

4937
02:46:37,700 --> 02:46:40,060
hundreds of millions of dollars to have obesity

4938
02:46:40,060 --> 02:46:43,660
classified as a disease to ingrain these drugs

4939
02:46:43,660 --> 02:46:46,420
into the pop culture zeitgeist and to get

4940
02:46:46,420 --> 02:46:48,440
private insurers to cover the drug.

4941
02:46:48,600 --> 02:46:51,640
I say again, life imitates no agenda.

4942
02:46:52,140 --> 02:46:54,560
Yes, well, we have warned for this because

4943
02:46:54,560 --> 02:46:55,620
we read stuff.

4944
02:46:56,900 --> 02:46:59,260
Yeah, that takes a genius.

4945
02:46:59,620 --> 02:47:01,740
But here is the worst.

4946
02:47:03,340 --> 02:47:06,820
And Sharon Osbourne apparently has this new side

4947
02:47:06,820 --> 02:47:09,420
effect known as ozempic feet.

4948
02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:12,140
Oh, this is new.

4949
02:47:12,340 --> 02:47:13,140
Yes, it is.

4950
02:47:13,320 --> 02:47:14,380
You have my attention.

4951
02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:18,060
Ozempic feet, gnarly side effect of weight loss

4952
02:47:18,060 --> 02:47:20,580
drug exhibited by some celebs.

4953
02:47:22,540 --> 02:47:22,920
Yes.

4954
02:47:25,270 --> 02:47:28,500
So apparently, your feet go all curled up.

4955
02:47:29,240 --> 02:47:31,820
Your toes curl and you can't uncurl them.

4956
02:47:31,820 --> 02:47:37,280
And they have pictures of Sharon Osbourne apparently

4957
02:47:37,280 --> 02:47:38,640
with COVID feet.

4958
02:47:39,340 --> 02:47:41,200
So, yeah, it just looks like your toes

4959
02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:43,180
are cut off because they're all curled underneath.

4960
02:47:44,500 --> 02:47:45,860
You can't stretch them back.

4961
02:47:46,040 --> 02:47:47,820
It's a tendon issue.

4962
02:47:48,220 --> 02:47:48,360
Yeah.

4963
02:47:49,540 --> 02:47:50,020
Yes.

4964
02:47:51,120 --> 02:47:51,220
Huh.

4965
02:47:52,360 --> 02:47:55,360
Fans noticed Osbourne, 72, had wrinkly feet.

4966
02:47:55,600 --> 02:47:57,480
The fans speculated it could be a result

4967
02:47:57,480 --> 02:47:58,780
of her ozempic usage.

4968
02:47:59,560 --> 02:48:00,860
She's walking around barefoot?

4969
02:48:00,860 --> 02:48:01,840
What are they talking about?

4970
02:48:01,960 --> 02:48:02,480
Yeah, yeah.

4971
02:48:02,520 --> 02:48:03,700
Pictures of her on the couch.

4972
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:06,540
This cannot be a good product.

4973
02:48:07,300 --> 02:48:08,640
I don't think so.

4974
02:48:08,720 --> 02:48:10,220
It just can't be a good product.

4975
02:48:10,540 --> 02:48:12,660
I don't feel like it's a good product.

4976
02:48:12,920 --> 02:48:17,320
But it doesn't matter because there's help on

4977
02:48:17,320 --> 02:48:17,880
the horizon.

4978
02:48:18,320 --> 02:48:21,380
Eli Lilly announcing potential encouraging news for millions

4979
02:48:21,380 --> 02:48:23,780
of Americans with obesity and type 2 diabetes

4980
02:48:23,780 --> 02:48:28,080
promising new data suggests the company's new daily

4981
02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:30,600
pill could revolutionize weight loss as we know

4982
02:48:30,600 --> 02:48:30,760
it.

4983
02:48:31,200 --> 02:48:33,600
The drugmaker says results from a late stage

4984
02:48:33,600 --> 02:48:36,860
trial shows their daily pill may be another

4985
02:48:36,860 --> 02:48:39,860
option similar to ozempic and other popular injectable

4986
02:48:39,860 --> 02:48:43,680
drugs but without refrigeration or injections necessary.

4987
02:48:43,900 --> 02:48:45,200
Joining us now with more on this is

4988
02:48:45,200 --> 02:48:48,140
endocrinologist and obesity expert Dr. Rekha Kumar.

4989
02:48:48,500 --> 02:48:50,340
Doctor, thanks for taking the time.

4990
02:48:50,820 --> 02:48:53,380
We know that the common GLP-1s are

4991
02:48:53,380 --> 02:48:55,180
administered with an injection.

4992
02:48:55,480 --> 02:48:57,080
How does this pill work and why is

4993
02:48:57,080 --> 02:48:57,420
it different?

4994
02:48:59,060 --> 02:49:01,640
So this pill is different because it can

4995
02:49:01,640 --> 02:49:02,520
just be swallowed.

4996
02:49:02,780 --> 02:49:05,980
It doesn't matter, you know, with food, without

4997
02:49:05,980 --> 02:49:07,680
food, with water, without water.

4998
02:49:08,320 --> 02:49:10,860
The current GLP-1 that's oral that's on

4999
02:49:10,860 --> 02:49:13,120
the market, ribelsis, has a lot of stipulations

5000
02:49:13,120 --> 02:49:16,220
around food and only four sips of water.

5001
02:49:16,460 --> 02:49:18,240
So this is different because it's a daily

5002
02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:20,120
pill versus a weekly injection.

5003
02:49:20,840 --> 02:49:22,020
Time of day doesn't matter.

5004
02:49:22,200 --> 02:49:24,420
And we're seeing results that appear to be

5005
02:49:24,980 --> 02:49:27,540
basically as good as the injectables that we

5006
02:49:27,540 --> 02:49:28,240
have on the market.

5007
02:49:28,480 --> 02:49:30,080
I mean, we're finally here.

5008
02:49:30,860 --> 02:49:32,240
It's about time.

5009
02:49:32,560 --> 02:49:34,440
I mean, eat all the junk you want.

5010
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:36,160
Doesn't matter if it comes in a bag,

5011
02:49:36,220 --> 02:49:36,920
has a barcode.

5012
02:49:36,920 --> 02:49:38,980
You can have the pill with the junk.

5013
02:49:39,120 --> 02:49:42,540
You don't need four sips of water.

5014
02:49:42,580 --> 02:49:44,480
You can swallow it with your milkshake.

5015
02:49:44,780 --> 02:49:48,280
This, my friends, is what America is all

5016
02:49:48,280 --> 02:49:48,640
about.

5017
02:49:49,180 --> 02:49:50,240
This is what we do.

5018
02:49:50,360 --> 02:49:54,280
What exactly did this trial study show and

5019
02:49:54,280 --> 02:49:56,380
are there any side effects patients should be

5020
02:49:56,380 --> 02:49:57,860
concerned about when it comes to this new

5021
02:49:57,860 --> 02:49:58,020
pill?

5022
02:49:58,180 --> 02:49:58,740
Well, yes.

5023
02:49:58,780 --> 02:50:00,380
You've got the COVID gnarly feet.

5024
02:50:00,520 --> 02:50:01,340
You've got the blindness.

5025
02:50:01,580 --> 02:50:02,620
You've got the anal leakage.

5026
02:50:02,820 --> 02:50:03,440
But don't worry.

5027
02:50:03,940 --> 02:50:06,280
So what this trial showed was that this

5028
02:50:06,280 --> 02:50:09,580
medicine was great at lowering blood sugar as

5029
02:50:09,580 --> 02:50:10,660
well as...

5030
02:50:10,660 --> 02:50:12,300
They've actually said it's great.

5031
02:50:12,740 --> 02:50:15,000
What study says, hey, this is great.

5032
02:50:15,580 --> 02:50:16,760
Reducing body weight.

5033
02:50:17,660 --> 02:50:19,680
It was a 16-pound weight loss at

5034
02:50:19,680 --> 02:50:22,500
40 weeks, which is tracking to look like

5035
02:50:22,500 --> 02:50:25,900
the weight loss we see in Ozempic, Wegovi,

5036
02:50:26,180 --> 02:50:27,900
a little bit under Munjaro.

5037
02:50:28,600 --> 02:50:30,880
And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration...

5038
02:50:31,720 --> 02:50:32,040
Wait, wait.

5039
02:50:32,580 --> 02:50:33,840
Munjaro did better.

5040
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:35,780
Munjaro outperformed everybody.

5041
02:50:36,320 --> 02:50:37,520
It sounds like it.

5042
02:50:37,980 --> 02:50:39,580
If you're going to go for the shot...

5043
02:50:39,580 --> 02:50:40,440
This is news to me.

5044
02:50:40,620 --> 02:50:41,660
Yeah, I didn't know it either.

5045
02:50:41,800 --> 02:50:43,060
I think if you're going to go for

5046
02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:44,760
the shot, Munjaro is the way to go.

5047
02:50:44,880 --> 02:50:47,860
And the fact that this doesn't require refrigeration,

5048
02:50:47,960 --> 02:50:50,620
it's not an injection, and can be taken

5049
02:50:50,620 --> 02:50:52,700
by mouth is great for people that might

5050
02:50:52,700 --> 02:50:55,260
have an aversion to pills or an aversion

5051
02:50:55,260 --> 02:50:55,920
to injections.

5052
02:50:56,360 --> 02:50:58,320
So it offers another option.

5053
02:50:58,900 --> 02:51:00,320
It's just another option.

5054
02:51:01,080 --> 02:51:02,760
I am not a medical doctor.

5055
02:51:02,900 --> 02:51:04,500
We are not giving you any advice.

5056
02:51:04,700 --> 02:51:06,440
But stay away from this stuff, people.

5057
02:51:09,640 --> 02:51:10,960
This can't be good.

5058
02:51:14,360 --> 02:51:14,960
Yeah.

5059
02:51:15,420 --> 02:51:19,340
So while we're on the topic of ingesting

5060
02:51:19,340 --> 02:51:20,200
poison...

5061
02:51:22,180 --> 02:51:22,700
Fluoride?

5062
02:51:22,700 --> 02:51:25,020
I have a fluoride series of clips from

5063
02:51:25,020 --> 02:51:27,880
PBS that I thought were quite fascinating because

5064
02:51:27,880 --> 02:51:30,200
they brought somebody on to re-promote fluoridation

5065
02:51:30,800 --> 02:51:34,040
because all of a sudden, we're having these

5066
02:51:34,040 --> 02:51:34,380
issues.

5067
02:51:34,620 --> 02:51:35,980
Some states are dropping it.

5068
02:51:36,300 --> 02:51:39,860
Was it a representative from Alcoa, the aluminum

5069
02:51:39,860 --> 02:51:40,420
producer?

5070
02:51:40,660 --> 02:51:42,120
No, I don't think so.

5071
02:51:42,260 --> 02:51:45,460
But I didn't do a deep dive into

5072
02:51:45,460 --> 02:51:46,060
her background.

5073
02:51:46,300 --> 02:51:48,720
But she's obviously a stooge, and she wouldn't

5074
02:51:48,720 --> 02:51:50,000
answer one question.

5075
02:51:50,220 --> 02:51:52,420
By the way, this has been going on

5076
02:51:52,420 --> 02:51:53,580
on networks everywhere.

5077
02:51:53,780 --> 02:51:55,460
I wanted to clip some of this stuff,

5078
02:51:55,520 --> 02:51:56,460
so I'm glad you had it.

5079
02:51:57,380 --> 02:52:00,460
There are pro-fluoride people out on all

5080
02:52:00,460 --> 02:52:01,900
the networks right now.

5081
02:52:01,900 --> 02:52:02,340
Yeah.

5082
02:52:02,560 --> 02:52:02,980
Everywhere.

5083
02:52:03,580 --> 02:52:03,900
All right.

5084
02:52:04,060 --> 02:52:06,880
Well, let's stop right there because the reason

5085
02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:10,300
is fluoride is an industrial waste.

5086
02:52:10,480 --> 02:52:10,640
Poison.

5087
02:52:11,180 --> 02:52:12,720
And they don't know what to do with

5088
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:12,820
it.

5089
02:52:12,900 --> 02:52:13,720
I mean, they're going to have to take

5090
02:52:13,720 --> 02:52:14,820
it and drop it off in the middle

5091
02:52:14,820 --> 02:52:16,640
of the ocean or something right now because

5092
02:52:16,640 --> 02:52:18,800
it's no good.

5093
02:52:19,520 --> 02:52:22,560
But so I want to reintroduce it into

5094
02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:23,480
the drinking water.

5095
02:52:23,600 --> 02:52:24,480
That'll get rid of it.

5096
02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:27,040
And so let's bring in some experts here.

5097
02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:28,900
Now, actually, I have to give the credit

5098
02:52:28,900 --> 02:52:33,600
to the guy on PBS here because he

5099
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:38,600
does repeat a question twice that she never

5100
02:52:38,600 --> 02:52:39,060
answers.

5101
02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:41,760
He doesn't keep beating her up with it,

5102
02:52:41,780 --> 02:52:44,680
which I would have done, but you'll hear.

5103
02:52:45,080 --> 02:52:47,740
Earlier this month, Health and Human Services Secretary

5104
02:52:47,740 --> 02:52:48,340
Robert F.

5105
02:52:48,480 --> 02:52:51,600
Kennedy Jr. announced plans to end the federal

5106
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:55,360
recommendation that municipalities add fluoride to their drinking

5107
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:55,680
water.

5108
02:52:56,220 --> 02:52:59,400
The Environmental Protection Agency also said it was

5109
02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:03,800
reviewing quote, new scientific information about the risks

5110
02:53:03,800 --> 02:53:04,700
of fluoridation.

5111
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:07,520
Given this renewed debate, we wanted to hear

5112
02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:10,400
one perspective from a community that did remove

5113
02:53:10,400 --> 02:53:13,140
fluoride from its water, the Canadian city of

5114
02:53:13,140 --> 02:53:13,620
Calgary.

5115
02:53:14,080 --> 02:53:16,560
Earlier this week, I spoke to Lindsay McLaren.

5116
02:53:16,820 --> 02:53:19,600
She's a professor of community health sciences at

5117
02:53:19,600 --> 02:53:22,120
the University of Calgary, and I began by

5118
02:53:22,120 --> 02:53:24,980
asking her why we started fluoridating water in

5119
02:53:24,980 --> 02:53:25,740
the first place.

5120
02:53:25,900 --> 02:53:29,340
In regions of the United States and elsewhere,

5121
02:53:30,260 --> 02:53:33,280
it was observed by local dentists, this was

5122
02:53:33,280 --> 02:53:36,420
back in the 1940s, that people living in

5123
02:53:36,420 --> 02:53:39,700
certain communities had kind of a staining of

5124
02:53:39,700 --> 02:53:44,380
their teeth, but their teeth also turned out

5125
02:53:44,380 --> 02:53:46,300
to be quite resistant to tooth decay.

5126
02:53:46,880 --> 02:53:49,660
And so it was figured out that this

5127
02:53:49,660 --> 02:53:53,260
was because of naturally high levels of fluoride

5128
02:53:53,260 --> 02:53:54,980
in the drinking water.

5129
02:53:55,580 --> 02:53:57,420
And so that gave rise to the idea

5130
02:53:57,420 --> 02:54:00,120
that we could actually do this intentionally and

5131
02:54:00,120 --> 02:54:03,100
in a controlled manner as a public health

5132
02:54:03,100 --> 02:54:05,680
intervention to improve the oral health of the

5133
02:54:05,680 --> 02:54:06,180
population.

5134
02:54:06,560 --> 02:54:09,580
We mentioned that some people have cited risks

5135
02:54:09,580 --> 02:54:11,180
associated with this practice.

5136
02:54:11,300 --> 02:54:14,360
And the current HHS Secretary in the United

5137
02:54:14,360 --> 02:54:17,040
States, R.F.K. Jr., he had a

5138
02:54:17,040 --> 02:54:19,120
recent visit to the state of Utah.

5139
02:54:19,480 --> 02:54:22,020
Utah itself became the first state to ban

5140
02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:23,080
fluoride in its water.

5141
02:54:23,200 --> 02:54:24,080
Here's what he said there.

5142
02:54:24,580 --> 02:54:29,000
In the era of fluoridated toothpastes and mouthwashes,

5143
02:54:30,020 --> 02:54:31,920
it makes no sense to have fluoride in

5144
02:54:31,920 --> 02:54:32,340
our water.

5145
02:54:33,200 --> 02:54:36,380
The evidence against fluoride is overwhelming.

5146
02:54:37,120 --> 02:54:40,260
In animals, in animal models, and in human

5147
02:54:40,260 --> 02:54:43,780
models, we know that it causes IQ loss.

5148
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:45,320
Huh?

5149
02:54:47,470 --> 02:54:48,030
What?

5150
02:54:48,650 --> 02:54:49,590
Causes what?

5151
02:54:50,190 --> 02:54:51,130
IQ loss.

5152
02:54:51,270 --> 02:54:52,210
Oh, I'm sorry.

5153
02:54:52,590 --> 02:54:52,750
Huh?

5154
02:54:53,730 --> 02:54:55,530
I'm pretending to have been drinking the water.

5155
02:54:56,470 --> 02:54:56,970
So...

5156
02:54:56,970 --> 02:54:57,530
Oh.

5157
02:54:58,350 --> 02:54:58,610
Yes.

5158
02:54:58,670 --> 02:55:01,870
So, okay, so that's the key that he

5159
02:55:01,870 --> 02:55:03,350
wants, you know, let's get rid of fluoride

5160
02:55:03,350 --> 02:55:04,950
because it's not good for our intelligence.

5161
02:55:05,170 --> 02:55:06,110
We're all dumbing down.

5162
02:55:06,390 --> 02:55:09,150
So let's continue these clips and see what

5163
02:55:09,150 --> 02:55:10,470
she has to say about this.

5164
02:55:10,470 --> 02:55:12,210
So what about those arguments?

5165
02:55:12,550 --> 02:55:15,730
One, that in the era of heavily fluoridated

5166
02:55:15,730 --> 02:55:17,770
toothpastes, we don't need to add it to

5167
02:55:17,770 --> 02:55:18,190
our water.

5168
02:55:18,430 --> 02:55:21,230
And two, are there studies indicating that it

5169
02:55:21,230 --> 02:55:22,530
causes IQ loss?

5170
02:55:22,830 --> 02:55:24,610
So the point about being in the era

5171
02:55:24,610 --> 02:55:27,170
of widespread fluoride toothpaste is a good one,

5172
02:55:27,310 --> 02:55:30,130
but research and systematic reviews of research that

5173
02:55:30,130 --> 02:55:33,930
have been conducted in this era consistently show

5174
02:55:33,930 --> 02:55:37,230
that there is an added benefit of fluoridated

5175
02:55:37,230 --> 02:55:41,610
water above and beyond the widespread use of

5176
02:55:41,610 --> 02:55:42,330
toothpaste.

5177
02:55:42,810 --> 02:55:44,790
And then what about the studies that he

5178
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:46,410
cited about IQ loss?

5179
02:55:47,690 --> 02:55:49,050
Yeah, what about them?

5180
02:55:49,690 --> 02:55:51,710
So, yeah, he has to re-ask the

5181
02:55:51,710 --> 02:55:53,450
question because she didn't answer it.

5182
02:55:53,550 --> 02:55:55,070
Right, about IQ loss.

5183
02:55:55,070 --> 02:55:55,950
Do you think she's going to answer it

5184
02:55:55,950 --> 02:55:56,490
this time?

5185
02:55:56,950 --> 02:55:58,410
After he asks again?

5186
02:55:58,630 --> 02:56:00,050
I'm guessing not.

5187
02:56:00,630 --> 02:56:03,010
Maybe she will deflect, deny, and defend?

5188
02:56:03,690 --> 02:56:05,090
I think you're right.

5189
02:56:05,090 --> 02:56:07,210
And then what about the studies that he

5190
02:56:07,210 --> 02:56:08,810
cited about IQ loss?

5191
02:56:09,170 --> 02:56:11,090
The main thing to say there is that

5192
02:56:11,090 --> 02:56:15,070
it's really not at all clear that fluoridation

5193
02:56:15,070 --> 02:56:18,210
is associated with those outcomes at the levels

5194
02:56:18,210 --> 02:56:20,930
that we're talking about for community water fluoridation.

5195
02:56:21,170 --> 02:56:23,970
There's many examples of things that are harmful

5196
02:56:23,970 --> 02:56:26,890
or toxic at high levels, but that are

5197
02:56:26,890 --> 02:56:29,470
innocuous or even beneficial at lower levels.

5198
02:56:29,570 --> 02:56:30,970
Hey man, what are you complaining about?

5199
02:56:31,070 --> 02:56:32,130
Lots of stuff that we put in the

5200
02:56:32,130 --> 02:56:33,310
water is toxic, okay?

5201
02:56:33,310 --> 02:56:34,630
But it can also be good for you.

5202
02:56:34,690 --> 02:56:37,470
So, turning to your experience, in 2011, the

5203
02:56:37,470 --> 02:56:41,730
Calgary City Council voted to remove fluoride from

5204
02:56:41,730 --> 02:56:42,250
its water.

5205
02:56:42,730 --> 02:56:44,650
You launched a study then as to what

5206
02:56:44,650 --> 02:56:46,750
the downstream impacts of that was.

5207
02:56:46,810 --> 02:56:47,770
What is it that you found?

5208
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:51,190
So, we designed a large-scale study where

5209
02:56:51,190 --> 02:56:55,530
we collected data on oral health and a

5210
02:56:55,530 --> 02:57:00,270
number of other things from several thousand kids

5211
02:57:00,270 --> 02:57:03,710
in both Calgary where fluoridation was stopped and

5212
02:57:03,710 --> 02:57:07,150
in Edmonton, which is the other large city

5213
02:57:07,150 --> 02:57:11,070
in Alberta, which has several similarities to Calgary

5214
02:57:11,070 --> 02:57:13,570
with the main difference being that they had

5215
02:57:13,570 --> 02:57:16,090
fluoridation in place and it was continuing.

5216
02:57:16,430 --> 02:57:19,530
About seven to eight years after the decision

5217
02:57:19,530 --> 02:57:23,930
to stop fluoridation in Calgary, we observed quite

5218
02:57:23,930 --> 02:57:26,230
a big difference in the prevalence of tooth

5219
02:57:26,230 --> 02:57:29,230
decay among kids in the two cities.

5220
02:57:29,230 --> 02:57:30,150
A big difference.

5221
02:57:30,370 --> 02:57:31,730
A big difference.

5222
02:57:33,250 --> 02:57:35,010
What was the big difference?

5223
02:57:35,530 --> 02:57:37,670
It's a big difference.

5224
02:57:37,830 --> 02:57:38,630
What would you guess?

5225
02:57:38,690 --> 02:57:40,830
They had two cities.

5226
02:57:41,090 --> 02:57:42,370
One had fluoridated water.

5227
02:57:42,490 --> 02:57:44,050
One had no fluoridated water.

5228
02:57:44,950 --> 02:57:46,550
They noticed a big difference.

5229
02:57:47,070 --> 02:57:52,390
Much better teeth health in the fluoridated city.

5230
02:57:52,470 --> 02:57:55,430
I'm going to say like 90% better.

5231
02:57:58,310 --> 02:57:59,470
That's a guess.

5232
02:57:59,470 --> 02:58:01,790
I think that's kind of the implication.

5233
02:58:02,090 --> 02:58:04,070
I'd be like 90% to 100%

5234
02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:04,430
better.

5235
02:58:05,810 --> 02:58:08,550
Do we reveal all in this last clip?

5236
02:58:08,750 --> 02:58:09,390
Yes, we do.

5237
02:58:09,490 --> 02:58:11,210
Except for the brain damage part.

5238
02:58:11,370 --> 02:58:12,930
We can't talk about that.

5239
02:58:13,030 --> 02:58:15,490
The percent of kids who had tooth decay

5240
02:58:15,490 --> 02:58:19,190
in Calgary where there was no fluoride was

5241
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:24,710
65% whereas in Edmonton where fluoridation remains

5242
02:58:24,710 --> 02:58:26,710
in place, it was about 55%.

5243
02:58:28,170 --> 02:58:30,390
A 10% difference.

5244
02:58:30,810 --> 02:58:31,610
That's big.

5245
02:58:32,230 --> 02:58:33,570
That's a big difference.

5246
02:58:33,710 --> 02:58:34,990
It's a huge difference.

5247
02:58:35,410 --> 02:58:38,430
55 versus 65.

5248
02:58:38,990 --> 02:58:40,210
Versus 65.

5249
02:58:40,650 --> 02:58:43,450
That's a huge monstrous difference that we should

5250
02:58:43,450 --> 02:58:47,030
all risk our mental health for.

5251
02:58:47,550 --> 02:58:51,350
A decade later voters there voted to put

5252
02:58:51,350 --> 02:58:52,370
fluoride back in.

5253
02:58:52,470 --> 02:58:53,990
He doesn't at any point say that's not

5254
02:58:53,990 --> 02:58:55,910
such a big difference, is it Doctor, or

5255
02:58:55,910 --> 02:58:58,030
whatever her name is, whatever her title is.

5256
02:58:58,290 --> 02:58:59,230
Farmer lady.

5257
02:58:59,750 --> 02:59:00,370
Professor.

5258
02:59:01,270 --> 02:59:04,630
A decade later, voters there voted to put

5259
02:59:04,630 --> 02:59:06,090
fluoride back into the water.

5260
02:59:06,210 --> 02:59:07,770
That has not happened yet.

5261
02:59:08,370 --> 02:59:12,450
Does your experience there help inform how Americans

5262
02:59:12,450 --> 02:59:14,150
ought to be thinking about this decision?

5263
02:59:14,550 --> 02:59:18,950
Certainly in the Calgary case, we were fortunate

5264
02:59:18,950 --> 02:59:22,070
to be able to build this study and

5265
02:59:22,070 --> 02:59:26,510
to demonstrate that there are consequences to removing

5266
02:59:26,510 --> 02:59:27,710
fluoride from drinking water.

5267
02:59:27,870 --> 02:59:30,630
It's not just an innocuous policy decision.

5268
02:59:31,050 --> 02:59:34,250
And so that information I think figured importantly

5269
02:59:34,810 --> 02:59:38,810
in the decision to reintroduce the measure, which

5270
02:59:38,810 --> 02:59:40,310
should be happening soon.

5271
02:59:40,690 --> 02:59:42,130
What I think I would also want to

5272
02:59:42,130 --> 02:59:44,990
add here is that if you decide as

5273
02:59:44,990 --> 02:59:47,610
a community, if you have a grown-up

5274
02:59:47,610 --> 02:59:50,750
conversation and decide as a community to not

5275
02:59:50,750 --> 02:59:53,950
fluoridate the water, that is one thing, but

5276
02:59:53,950 --> 02:59:56,130
you have to accompany that by a discussion

5277
02:59:56,130 --> 02:59:57,930
about what are you going to do instead?

5278
02:59:58,570 --> 03:00:02,370
Because tooth decay is not an innocuous health

5279
03:00:02,370 --> 03:00:02,730
problem.

5280
03:00:02,910 --> 03:00:04,230
It's a serious health problem.

5281
03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:07,730
It's very common, and perhaps most importantly, it's

5282
03:00:07,730 --> 03:00:09,410
almost entirely preventable.

5283
03:00:09,910 --> 03:00:12,090
And so what kind of a society are

5284
03:00:12,090 --> 03:00:15,870
we if we don't prevent an entirely preventable

5285
03:00:16,590 --> 03:00:18,890
problem that causes harm and pain?

5286
03:00:18,890 --> 03:00:21,190
And so then he went right back and

5287
03:00:21,190 --> 03:00:23,250
he said, but how about the IQ issue?

5288
03:00:23,270 --> 03:00:25,170
And she answered the question in the final

5289
03:00:25,170 --> 03:00:25,530
clip?

5290
03:00:26,890 --> 03:00:28,630
No, of course not.

5291
03:00:28,830 --> 03:00:31,290
He didn't beat it up anymore, but let's

5292
03:00:31,290 --> 03:00:32,730
go back to what she just said.

5293
03:00:33,990 --> 03:00:38,790
It's 55% in the fluoridated area versus

5294
03:00:38,790 --> 03:00:41,310
65% in the non-fluoridated area.

5295
03:00:41,650 --> 03:00:44,670
That is not preventing anything.

5296
03:00:45,690 --> 03:00:46,550
She says completely preventable.

5297
03:00:46,550 --> 03:00:49,810
She says tooth decay is completely, she said

5298
03:00:49,810 --> 03:00:52,430
this, completely preventable.

5299
03:00:53,470 --> 03:00:56,350
How is 55% complete?

5300
03:00:57,170 --> 03:01:00,610
It's not even half it's more than half

5301
03:01:00,610 --> 03:01:02,750
people getting it with the fluoride.

5302
03:01:02,850 --> 03:01:05,790
How does that make fluoride make it preventable?

5303
03:01:06,750 --> 03:01:08,410
This is unbelievable to me.

5304
03:01:08,550 --> 03:01:11,190
Here's the thing that Robert F.

5305
03:01:11,290 --> 03:01:13,270
Kennedy Jr. needs to explain.

5306
03:01:14,070 --> 03:01:17,870
The history of and they just call it

5307
03:01:17,870 --> 03:01:22,870
fluoride, but it's really hydrofluorosilic acid I believe,

5308
03:01:23,390 --> 03:01:29,510
which is released during strip mining, phosphate mining.

5309
03:01:30,430 --> 03:01:34,410
And they used to just release this fluoride

5310
03:01:34,410 --> 03:01:36,530
into the air, but it was in the

5311
03:01:36,530 --> 03:01:40,890
1970s I think the Department of Agriculture said

5312
03:01:40,890 --> 03:01:45,450
airborne airborne fluoride is causing damage to domestic

5313
03:01:45,450 --> 03:01:49,010
animals, it's crops, it's an airborne pollutant.

5314
03:01:49,210 --> 03:01:51,430
So they came up with environmental regulations.

5315
03:01:51,570 --> 03:01:53,650
This is all you can look this up.

5316
03:01:54,110 --> 03:01:54,950
Chat GPT it.

5317
03:01:55,930 --> 03:01:59,350
These companies had to limit their airborne pollutants.

5318
03:01:59,950 --> 03:02:03,370
So they were being caught in air filtration

5319
03:02:03,370 --> 03:02:06,450
systems which they then condensed into a water

5320
03:02:06,450 --> 03:02:07,210
-based solution.

5321
03:02:07,610 --> 03:02:09,850
They packaged that up and sold it to

5322
03:02:09,850 --> 03:02:11,110
municipal governments.

5323
03:02:12,710 --> 03:02:13,690
That's what happened.

5324
03:02:14,890 --> 03:02:17,030
They needed to get rid of this stuff

5325
03:02:17,030 --> 03:02:19,410
for the phosphate mining and they just came

5326
03:02:19,410 --> 03:02:20,930
up with this great story.

5327
03:02:21,470 --> 03:02:24,790
And even my periodontist, I told you this

5328
03:02:24,790 --> 03:02:25,130
story.

5329
03:02:25,730 --> 03:02:28,470
He was like, where do you stand on

5330
03:02:28,470 --> 03:02:29,050
fluoride?

5331
03:02:30,110 --> 03:02:31,290
Don't put it in your water.

5332
03:02:31,650 --> 03:02:33,810
That's not true, it saves so many children.

5333
03:02:34,270 --> 03:02:36,030
And then once he started looking into it,

5334
03:02:36,050 --> 03:02:37,590
which he never did, because it was just

5335
03:02:37,590 --> 03:02:39,630
rammed into his head in dentist school.

5336
03:02:40,290 --> 03:02:42,390
He said, holy crap, you're right, this is

5337
03:02:42,390 --> 03:02:42,870
no good.

5338
03:02:43,210 --> 03:02:45,250
You can get fluoride just as Bobby the

5339
03:02:45,250 --> 03:02:47,030
Op says, you can get it from toothpaste,

5340
03:02:47,430 --> 03:02:51,910
you can get it with mouthwash.

5341
03:02:52,650 --> 03:02:54,150
Your dentist can put it on your teeth

5342
03:02:54,150 --> 03:02:55,710
directly, which is probably the best way.

5343
03:02:55,810 --> 03:02:57,370
Yes, you can get it in the nice

5344
03:02:57,370 --> 03:02:59,790
tray with a nice tropical fruit taste.

5345
03:03:01,290 --> 03:03:02,590
Do you remember that?

5346
03:03:03,070 --> 03:03:05,790
When they put the fluoride...

5347
03:03:05,790 --> 03:03:07,390
Oh God, I used to hate that.

5348
03:03:07,450 --> 03:03:08,570
I don't think they do that anymore.

5349
03:03:09,250 --> 03:03:10,490
You get these two trays.

5350
03:03:11,030 --> 03:03:12,050
Okay, boomer.

5351
03:03:12,170 --> 03:03:13,590
And you'd be sitting there and then this

5352
03:03:13,590 --> 03:03:16,070
tropical fruit taste would be dripping in the

5353
03:03:16,070 --> 03:03:17,830
back of your throat, make you all nauseous.

5354
03:03:19,570 --> 03:03:22,510
And of course for me, the kicker was

5355
03:03:22,510 --> 03:03:26,150
when I read Legacy of Ashes, the CIA

5356
03:03:26,150 --> 03:03:31,030
story written by Weiner, Daniel Weiner, I want

5357
03:03:31,030 --> 03:03:31,390
to say.

5358
03:03:32,130 --> 03:03:34,110
And Uncle Don was in that book everywhere.

5359
03:03:34,790 --> 03:03:36,010
And I called Uncle Don and I said,

5360
03:03:36,070 --> 03:03:36,670
is this true?

5361
03:03:36,810 --> 03:03:38,010
He says, yeah, it's the way I remember

5362
03:03:38,010 --> 03:03:38,150
it.

5363
03:03:38,170 --> 03:03:38,890
And what was in the book?

5364
03:03:38,930 --> 03:03:41,350
It says the CIA would put fluoride into

5365
03:03:41,350 --> 03:03:43,510
enemy water camps so they'd become nice and

5366
03:03:43,510 --> 03:03:45,610
docile so they could take over the camp

5367
03:03:45,610 --> 03:03:46,090
at night.

5368
03:03:47,510 --> 03:03:49,690
But then this was PBS?

5369
03:03:50,370 --> 03:03:53,190
I guarantee you Alcoa has some kind of

5370
03:03:53,190 --> 03:03:54,370
sponsorship of PBS.

5371
03:03:55,990 --> 03:03:58,190
Because Alcoa did a lot of this.

5372
03:04:00,250 --> 03:04:00,570
Ugh.

5373
03:04:01,710 --> 03:04:03,690
People should just listen to the No Agenda

5374
03:04:03,690 --> 03:04:05,050
show and live longer.

5375
03:04:06,370 --> 03:04:07,430
Let's hope so.

5376
03:04:10,090 --> 03:04:11,050
Oh, man.

5377
03:04:12,770 --> 03:04:14,470
I think that was the last clip, wasn't

5378
03:04:14,470 --> 03:04:14,610
it?

5379
03:04:14,630 --> 03:04:15,670
Yeah, that was the last clip.

5380
03:04:15,750 --> 03:04:19,210
Okay, we are beyond our...

5381
03:04:19,210 --> 03:04:20,330
Uh-oh, time's up.

5382
03:04:20,470 --> 03:04:21,330
Time is up.

5383
03:04:21,990 --> 03:04:23,230
So I will...

5384
03:04:23,230 --> 03:04:24,210
I have two clips.

5385
03:04:24,530 --> 03:04:25,890
They're reasonably short.

5386
03:04:26,610 --> 03:04:27,130
Manga.

5387
03:04:27,390 --> 03:04:28,170
Manga, everybody.

5388
03:04:28,950 --> 03:04:30,510
Make Africa News great again.

5389
03:04:30,650 --> 03:04:33,150
I have a 45-second Africa News clip.

5390
03:04:59,950 --> 03:05:02,870
The report says missions in Lesotho, Eritrea, the

5391
03:05:02,870 --> 03:05:06,350
Central African Republic, the Republic of Congo, Gambia,

5392
03:05:06,510 --> 03:05:08,610
and South Sudan top the list of those

5393
03:05:08,610 --> 03:05:09,510
facing closure.

5394
03:05:09,910 --> 03:05:11,730
The news comes on the back of sudden

5395
03:05:11,730 --> 03:05:14,510
aid cuts to health and other social programs,

5396
03:05:14,790 --> 03:05:17,490
trade tariffs, and visa bans imposed on over

5397
03:05:17,490 --> 03:05:18,590
a dozen countries.

5398
03:05:18,910 --> 03:05:21,830
So we are giving up on Africa, as

5399
03:05:21,830 --> 03:05:22,390
you predicted.

5400
03:05:24,130 --> 03:05:27,610
It's all about North Pole, South America.

5401
03:05:28,470 --> 03:05:29,990
Africa no longer matters.

5402
03:05:30,170 --> 03:05:32,070
We're pulling out our embassies, which means no

5403
03:05:32,070 --> 03:05:32,590
more spies.

5404
03:05:33,710 --> 03:05:34,550
We're just done?

5405
03:05:34,710 --> 03:05:36,190
Do we just leave it to the Chinese?

5406
03:05:37,190 --> 03:05:37,450
Yeah.

5407
03:05:38,950 --> 03:05:40,110
Is that a good idea?

5408
03:05:40,290 --> 03:05:41,350
We're going to take...

5409
03:05:41,350 --> 03:05:42,690
We're going to do South America.

5410
03:05:43,010 --> 03:05:43,790
Which is better?

5411
03:05:44,230 --> 03:05:47,710
The Chinese have already taken over Africa, and

5412
03:05:48,510 --> 03:05:49,950
they're going to try to take over South

5413
03:05:49,950 --> 03:05:50,210
America.

5414
03:05:50,310 --> 03:05:51,010
We have to stop them.

5415
03:05:51,170 --> 03:05:51,910
That's where we stop them.

5416
03:05:51,950 --> 03:05:53,170
We can't deal with Africa.

5417
03:05:53,290 --> 03:05:53,530
Okay.

5418
03:05:55,010 --> 03:05:58,010
And then finally, Canadian news.

5419
03:05:58,150 --> 03:06:00,070
As Canadians prepare to go to the polls

5420
03:06:00,070 --> 03:06:02,570
on the 28th of April, current Prime Minister

5421
03:06:02,570 --> 03:06:05,310
and Liberal candidate Mark Carney presented himself as

5422
03:06:05,310 --> 03:06:07,610
the strong man to lead Canada against a

5423
03:06:07,610 --> 03:06:09,150
hostile neighbor to the South.

5424
03:06:09,330 --> 03:06:12,190
Donald Trump is trying to fundamentally change the

5425
03:06:12,190 --> 03:06:15,090
world economy, the trading system, but really what

5426
03:06:15,090 --> 03:06:16,430
he's trying to do to Canada, he's trying

5427
03:06:16,430 --> 03:06:18,690
to break us so the U.S. can

5428
03:06:18,690 --> 03:06:19,110
own us.

5429
03:06:21,070 --> 03:06:22,850
This is going to be a great election.

5430
03:06:23,150 --> 03:06:25,110
They want our land, they want our resources,

5431
03:06:25,390 --> 03:06:26,090
they want our water.

5432
03:06:26,270 --> 03:06:27,030
We want your women!

5433
03:06:27,350 --> 03:06:28,090
They want our country.

5434
03:06:28,410 --> 03:06:30,450
We're all going to stand up against Donald

5435
03:06:30,450 --> 03:06:30,710
Trump.

5436
03:06:30,910 --> 03:06:31,450
Oh yeah.

5437
03:06:32,510 --> 03:06:33,570
You sure?

5438
03:06:33,710 --> 03:06:34,110
I'm ready.

5439
03:06:34,590 --> 03:06:35,110
I'm ready.

5440
03:06:35,690 --> 03:06:38,970
Canada's top trading partner by some distance, buying

5441
03:06:38,970 --> 03:06:42,090
75% of Canada's exports in 2024.

5442
03:06:42,630 --> 03:06:45,590
So Donald Trump's 25% blanket tariffs on

5443
03:06:45,590 --> 03:06:48,550
Canadian goods and new 10% energy levy

5444
03:06:48,550 --> 03:06:50,990
have left the country economically vulnerable.

5445
03:06:51,330 --> 03:06:54,790
A vulnerability conservative challenger Pierre Paulier blames on

5446
03:06:54,790 --> 03:06:55,350
the incumbent.

5447
03:06:55,590 --> 03:06:57,210
You claim that you want our country to

5448
03:06:57,210 --> 03:07:00,790
respond with strength, but after the last decade,

5449
03:07:00,930 --> 03:07:03,290
half of which time you've been Justin Trudeau's

5450
03:07:03,290 --> 03:07:06,350
economic advisor, our economy is weaker than ever

5451
03:07:06,350 --> 03:07:06,670
before.

5452
03:07:06,810 --> 03:07:08,290
It's been the worst growth in the G7.

5453
03:07:08,450 --> 03:07:10,190
Since the Liberals scraped a victory in the

5454
03:07:10,190 --> 03:07:13,870
2021 general election, the conservative opposition have mostly

5455
03:07:13,870 --> 03:07:16,490
dominated in the polls, but Donald Trump's trade

5456
03:07:16,490 --> 03:07:19,010
war has turned the tables, putting the incumbent

5457
03:07:19,010 --> 03:07:21,290
Liberals out in front for the first time

5458
03:07:21,290 --> 03:07:22,290
since 2022.

5459
03:07:24,590 --> 03:07:25,630
Poor Canada.

5460
03:07:27,680 --> 03:07:28,820
I feel bad.

5461
03:07:29,560 --> 03:07:31,120
Why would you feel bad?

5462
03:07:31,240 --> 03:07:34,820
Because they know that it's partially true.

5463
03:07:36,000 --> 03:07:37,060
I mean, it's not like we want to

5464
03:07:37,060 --> 03:07:41,060
really own Canada, but parts of it parts

5465
03:07:41,060 --> 03:07:42,980
of it will be handy to have, and

5466
03:07:42,980 --> 03:07:44,220
parts of it I think want to be

5467
03:07:44,220 --> 03:07:45,020
part of America.

5468
03:07:45,640 --> 03:07:48,100
It's not like one giant country that all

5469
03:07:48,100 --> 03:07:48,960
thinks the same.

5470
03:07:49,980 --> 03:07:52,400
Because I make jokes to Canadians all the

5471
03:07:52,400 --> 03:07:52,620
time.

5472
03:07:52,680 --> 03:07:54,460
It's like, you'll be a 51st state.

5473
03:07:54,680 --> 03:07:56,580
Half of them go, that would be awesome.

5474
03:07:56,660 --> 03:07:59,480
The other half go, Trump.

5475
03:08:00,500 --> 03:08:00,980
Trump.

5476
03:08:01,640 --> 03:08:02,120
Trump.

5477
03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:05,040
Yeah.

5478
03:08:05,380 --> 03:08:06,020
I don't know.

5479
03:08:07,220 --> 03:08:07,720
I don't know.

5480
03:08:09,840 --> 03:08:13,540
We're a real problem, economically speaking, with what's

5481
03:08:13,540 --> 03:08:14,120
happening now.

5482
03:08:14,580 --> 03:08:15,740
What are their choices?

5483
03:08:15,940 --> 03:08:16,660
What can they do?

5484
03:08:17,360 --> 03:08:18,720
Is it fait accompli?

5485
03:08:19,640 --> 03:08:23,260
They should get their act together.

5486
03:08:35,660 --> 03:08:39,440
Well, while Canada's getting their act together, I

5487
03:08:39,440 --> 03:08:41,820
knew you were fishing for something.

5488
03:08:42,000 --> 03:08:43,700
I was thinking, what can I do here?

5489
03:08:43,860 --> 03:08:44,180
Why?

5490
03:08:44,280 --> 03:08:45,800
Why do you have to blow the whole

5491
03:08:45,800 --> 03:08:46,020
thing?

5492
03:08:46,140 --> 03:08:47,920
No one needs to know our secret signals.

5493
03:08:48,880 --> 03:08:50,780
It's called professionalism.

5494
03:08:52,180 --> 03:08:54,940
It's usually something insulting or some one-liner.

5495
03:08:55,080 --> 03:08:56,640
I'm thinking to myself, God, what can I

5496
03:08:56,640 --> 03:08:57,240
say here?

5497
03:08:57,340 --> 03:08:59,440
He's not leading me down the right path.

5498
03:08:59,800 --> 03:09:04,620
You're hearing over 17 years of professional colleagues

5499
03:09:04,620 --> 03:09:07,860
working together, knowing exactly how we live, breathe,

5500
03:09:08,120 --> 03:09:09,540
and do our show.

5501
03:09:09,760 --> 03:09:11,000
It's a beautiful thing.

5502
03:09:11,280 --> 03:09:12,560
But then you had to go and lift

5503
03:09:12,560 --> 03:09:13,060
the veil.

5504
03:09:13,340 --> 03:09:14,760
Show everybody how to lift the veil.

5505
03:09:14,840 --> 03:09:15,920
Well, you do it all the time.

5506
03:09:16,140 --> 03:09:16,400
I do.

5507
03:09:16,820 --> 03:09:19,700
Hey, John's going to thank our supporters, $50

5508
03:09:19,700 --> 03:09:24,380
and above, who supported us for episode 1757.

5509
03:09:25,320 --> 03:09:26,820
Nathan Cochran starts us off.

5510
03:09:26,880 --> 03:09:28,480
He's in Franklin, Tennessee, and he came in

5511
03:09:28,480 --> 03:09:29,420
with the 1-2-3-4-5.

5512
03:09:29,540 --> 03:09:30,300
He's one of your boys.

5513
03:09:30,420 --> 03:09:31,180
He's from Mercy Me.

5514
03:09:32,600 --> 03:09:33,260
Oh, yes.

5515
03:09:33,460 --> 03:09:34,940
He's another Mercy Me boy.

5516
03:09:35,120 --> 03:09:36,740
Yeah, we should have a Mercy Me donation.

5517
03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:38,700
We should have a Mercy Me donation.

5518
03:09:39,620 --> 03:09:41,840
Nathan and just come up with something.

5519
03:09:42,080 --> 03:09:43,260
1-2-3-4-5 is good.

5520
03:09:43,940 --> 03:09:52,060
Dame Jan and Boise, $111.10. $111.10.

5521
03:09:52,060 --> 03:09:56,200
Hey, Patrick in Saginaw, I'll see your double

5522
03:09:56,200 --> 03:10:00,460
nipples on the dime, $88.10, and raise

5523
03:10:00,460 --> 03:10:04,920
you triple dicks on the dime, $111.10.

5524
03:10:05,080 --> 03:10:05,680
Oh, boy.

5525
03:10:06,140 --> 03:10:07,680
Boy, these guys, I'm telling you.

5526
03:10:08,220 --> 03:10:10,080
Texas Hot Grass, LLC.

5527
03:10:10,460 --> 03:10:10,880
Hot Glass.

5528
03:10:11,120 --> 03:10:12,280
I think it's Hot Glass.

5529
03:10:12,500 --> 03:10:13,680
I like grass better.

5530
03:10:13,820 --> 03:10:16,000
No, she did the glass flute.

5531
03:10:16,000 --> 03:10:17,140
Oh, she's the one that did all the

5532
03:10:17,140 --> 03:10:17,780
glassware for us.

5533
03:10:17,780 --> 03:10:18,680
The glass flute, yeah.

5534
03:10:18,700 --> 03:10:19,300
The swords.

5535
03:10:19,620 --> 03:10:20,580
Yeah, the swords.

5536
03:10:20,700 --> 03:10:21,560
Yeah, they're awesome.

5537
03:10:22,160 --> 03:10:23,700
Which we're still worried about breaking.

5538
03:10:23,900 --> 03:10:24,080
Yeah.

5539
03:10:25,180 --> 03:10:33,280
$105.35. Juliana Lee, $105.35. John Kratchik

5540
03:10:33,280 --> 03:10:41,220
in Northport, New York, $102.00. Jason Maurer

5541
03:10:41,220 --> 03:10:45,040
in Vancouver, Washington, $100.00, a low-tax

5542
03:10:45,040 --> 03:10:45,860
place to be.

5543
03:10:46,600 --> 03:10:51,180
Brian Mickey in Prague, Oklahoma, $84.00. And

5544
03:10:51,180 --> 03:10:53,740
there's Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, a

5545
03:10:53,740 --> 03:10:55,880
donation from the Archduke of Loon, a lover

5546
03:10:55,880 --> 03:10:57,660
of America, lover of boobs, and he has

5547
03:10:57,660 --> 03:11:00,560
a boob donation of $8.008. Along with

5548
03:11:00,560 --> 03:11:02,920
Herb Lamb, here he's back, from Sugar Hill,

5549
03:11:03,100 --> 03:11:09,400
Georgia, $8.008. Sir Darth Penguin in Lockport,

5550
03:11:09,600 --> 03:11:14,720
Illinois, $65.80. Oh, this is a switcheroo

5551
03:11:14,720 --> 03:11:16,640
donation for the Chi-Town Spook.

5552
03:11:17,760 --> 03:11:20,540
He wants to remain anonymous for spook reasons.

5553
03:11:21,120 --> 03:11:22,840
That's busted!

5554
03:11:23,120 --> 03:11:23,640
He's busted!

5555
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:28,200
Okay, well, he's Chi-Town Spook.

5556
03:11:28,340 --> 03:11:30,520
Sir Darth Penguin of Locktucky.

5557
03:11:31,320 --> 03:11:34,740
Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, up the

5558
03:11:34,740 --> 03:11:39,620
road, $6.006. Christine Tharp in Cedar Rapids,

5559
03:11:40,020 --> 03:11:42,700
Iowa, $59.04. This is in honor of

5560
03:11:42,700 --> 03:11:45,700
her husband, Ron.

5561
03:11:45,700 --> 03:11:46,900
Birthday coming up.

5562
03:11:47,940 --> 03:11:49,300
He was not de-douched.

5563
03:11:49,340 --> 03:11:50,740
Please de-douche us both.

5564
03:11:52,720 --> 03:11:54,420
You've been de-douched.

5565
03:11:54,420 --> 03:11:57,100
That is one, and here's the second one.

5566
03:11:58,300 --> 03:12:00,260
You've been de-douched.

5567
03:12:00,280 --> 03:12:01,060
You've been de-douched.

5568
03:12:02,360 --> 03:12:03,020
D.

5569
03:12:03,240 --> 03:12:06,660
Vitti in Parts Unknown, $58.09. Dean Roker,

5570
03:12:06,820 --> 03:12:12,420
$55.10. Andy Martin in Burlington, Vermont, $54

5571
03:12:12,420 --> 03:12:17,640
.20. $54.20. It's $4.20. It's $50

5572
03:12:17,640 --> 03:12:20,120
plus $4.20. That's not bad.

5573
03:12:20,680 --> 03:12:30,620
Sir Cascadia in Portland, $54.20. Chris Rees

5574
03:12:30,620 --> 03:12:35,260
in Wichita, Kansas, $53.33. Richard Brooksby, and

5575
03:12:35,260 --> 03:12:36,220
he's got a birthday, by the way.

5576
03:12:36,640 --> 03:12:41,180
Richard Brooksby in Mesa, Arizona, $52.72. He

5577
03:12:41,180 --> 03:12:42,720
says, down with pointy food.

5578
03:12:42,860 --> 03:12:44,660
I don't know what that's about, but I'm

5579
03:12:44,660 --> 03:12:44,980
with you.

5580
03:12:45,080 --> 03:12:45,320
I don't know.

5581
03:12:45,360 --> 03:12:46,480
It must have poked him in the eye.

5582
03:12:49,000 --> 03:12:50,880
Chris, by the way, wishes his birthday, Maggie.

5583
03:12:52,300 --> 03:12:52,740
Margie.

5584
03:12:53,000 --> 03:12:53,300
Margie.

5585
03:12:53,680 --> 03:12:54,080
Margie.

5586
03:12:54,080 --> 03:12:55,900
Oh, yeah.

5587
03:12:56,060 --> 03:12:56,800
It just says Margie.

5588
03:12:57,420 --> 03:12:58,840
He just made it up.

5589
03:13:00,160 --> 03:13:03,100
Luke Olsen in Alexandria, Virginia.

5590
03:13:04,200 --> 03:13:08,760
Sir Mark Greenwood, Indiana, $50.05. There's another

5591
03:13:08,760 --> 03:13:12,140
birthday donation for the lovely Dame Maria.

5592
03:13:13,760 --> 03:13:16,140
Now we've got $50 donors, name and location

5593
03:13:16,140 --> 03:13:16,460
only.

5594
03:13:16,580 --> 03:13:19,280
Luke Olsen in Alexandria, Virginia.

5595
03:13:19,440 --> 03:13:21,240
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.

5596
03:13:21,600 --> 03:13:25,180
Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.

5597
03:13:25,400 --> 03:13:26,940
This is in a short list here.

5598
03:13:27,520 --> 03:13:30,620
Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.

5599
03:13:31,200 --> 03:13:38,340
Paul Dubois in Kerhunkson, New York.

5600
03:13:41,160 --> 03:13:43,000
Steve Meyer, he's got a note there, see

5601
03:13:43,000 --> 03:13:43,680
what it says.

5602
03:13:43,980 --> 03:13:46,260
Steve Meyer in Goodyear, Arizona.

5603
03:13:47,080 --> 03:13:49,840
And last on the list is Sir Montauk

5604
03:13:49,840 --> 03:13:50,780
in a very short list.

5605
03:13:50,840 --> 03:13:54,360
This is a very short list for Easter.

5606
03:13:54,640 --> 03:13:57,720
Sir Montauk in Fremont, $50.

5607
03:13:58,300 --> 03:14:00,340
And that will be it.

5608
03:14:00,460 --> 03:14:00,720
That's it.

5609
03:14:01,060 --> 03:14:03,880
And Paul in Kerhunkson said, some people in

5610
03:14:03,880 --> 03:14:05,620
the world could make the argument that the

5611
03:14:05,620 --> 03:14:07,240
U.S. is setting Europe free.

5612
03:14:07,520 --> 03:14:09,700
Will the freed Europeans be able to remain

5613
03:14:09,700 --> 03:14:11,380
at peace with each other without the U

5614
03:14:11,380 --> 03:14:12,780
.S. lording over them?

5615
03:14:13,080 --> 03:14:13,680
Good question.

5616
03:14:14,400 --> 03:14:15,540
No, it's not a question.

5617
03:14:15,640 --> 03:14:16,500
We know the answer.

5618
03:14:16,620 --> 03:14:17,640
Yes, we know the answer.

5619
03:14:17,760 --> 03:14:19,460
And Sir Mark, by the way, he and

5620
03:14:19,460 --> 03:14:22,640
Dame Maria, we actually have a meet-up

5621
03:14:22,640 --> 03:14:23,540
report from Indy.

5622
03:14:24,060 --> 03:14:25,560
And I'll just read his note because he

5623
03:14:25,560 --> 03:14:26,360
loves her so much.

5624
03:14:26,720 --> 03:14:27,740
Happy April 21st.

5625
03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:29,720
Birthday donation for the lovely Dame Maria of

5626
03:14:29,720 --> 03:14:30,820
the Greek Kingdoms.

5627
03:14:31,220 --> 03:14:33,380
My best Dame smoking hot wife from your

5628
03:14:33,380 --> 03:14:35,920
awestruck husband, Sir Mark of the Greenwood, Warden

5629
03:14:35,920 --> 03:14:36,800
of the Crossroads.

5630
03:14:37,400 --> 03:14:39,440
And they're on the list, of course.

5631
03:14:39,960 --> 03:14:42,300
And thank you to these donors, $50 and

5632
03:14:42,300 --> 03:14:42,500
above.

5633
03:14:42,600 --> 03:14:44,400
We don't mention the under-50s for reasons

5634
03:14:44,400 --> 03:14:47,240
of anonymity, but we appreciate every single one

5635
03:14:47,240 --> 03:14:49,840
of you, especially those who do those sustaining

5636
03:14:49,840 --> 03:14:52,880
donations, which is any amount, any frequency, you

5637
03:14:52,880 --> 03:14:53,400
make it up.

5638
03:14:53,740 --> 03:14:56,440
Go to noagendadonations.com and support the show

5639
03:14:56,440 --> 03:14:57,320
with your numerology.

5640
03:14:57,420 --> 03:14:58,740
And again, thank you to the Executive and

5641
03:14:58,740 --> 03:15:01,780
Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1757.

5642
03:15:02,260 --> 03:15:04,220
Again, noagendadonations.com.

5643
03:15:04,320 --> 03:15:05,920
It's your birthday, birthday.

5644
03:15:07,740 --> 03:15:09,340
On No Agenda.

5645
03:15:09,480 --> 03:15:11,600
Happy birthday to Richard.

5646
03:15:12,320 --> 03:15:14,580
April 20th was his birthday.

5647
03:15:14,740 --> 03:15:15,160
That's today.

5648
03:15:15,660 --> 03:15:17,680
Commoner, Sir Dudename Ralph, which is his dad,

5649
03:15:17,760 --> 03:15:19,040
Raphael, a very happy one.

5650
03:15:19,060 --> 03:15:20,460
He turns 85 tomorrow.

5651
03:15:20,660 --> 03:15:21,340
Christine Tharp.

5652
03:15:21,480 --> 03:15:24,740
Happy birthday to her husband, Mr. Awesome, aka

5653
03:15:24,740 --> 03:15:25,620
Ron Tharp.

5654
03:15:25,860 --> 03:15:26,920
He celebrates tomorrow.

5655
03:15:27,060 --> 03:15:28,820
Also celebrating tomorrow, you just heard it, Sir

5656
03:15:28,820 --> 03:15:29,060
Mark.

5657
03:15:29,320 --> 03:15:32,060
Happy birthday and congratulations to his smoking hot

5658
03:15:32,060 --> 03:15:33,940
wife, Dame Maria of the Greek Kingdoms.

5659
03:15:34,100 --> 03:15:36,200
Chris says happy birthday to his smoking hot

5660
03:15:36,200 --> 03:15:37,180
wife, Margie.

5661
03:15:37,300 --> 03:15:38,900
She celebrates on the 22nd.

5662
03:15:39,200 --> 03:15:41,420
And Amy M., which is Benjamin M., happy

5663
03:15:41,420 --> 03:15:41,780
birthday.

5664
03:15:41,780 --> 03:15:44,300
He turns 11 on April 24th.

5665
03:15:44,380 --> 03:15:46,120
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best

5666
03:15:46,120 --> 03:15:47,700
podcast in the universe.

5667
03:15:49,600 --> 03:15:52,300
Now, before we continue, first we have a

5668
03:15:52,300 --> 03:15:53,100
night karma.

5669
03:15:53,240 --> 03:15:54,220
We always break for the nights.

5670
03:15:54,680 --> 03:15:56,620
This is Benjamin Doolan, poor knight of the

5671
03:15:56,620 --> 03:15:56,840
wood.

5672
03:15:57,280 --> 03:15:58,800
He says he's had a tough couple of

5673
03:15:58,800 --> 03:15:59,860
months and more ahead.

5674
03:15:59,940 --> 03:16:02,060
He could use some health karma and love

5675
03:16:02,060 --> 03:16:03,260
and lit from the Gitmo Nation.

5676
03:16:03,380 --> 03:16:05,480
On March 8th, he had a surgery to

5677
03:16:05,480 --> 03:16:07,680
amputate his left leg below the knee.

5678
03:16:08,340 --> 03:16:11,500
Made necessary by a misdiagnosis about a month

5679
03:16:11,500 --> 03:16:13,420
prior that missed a blocked artery in my

5680
03:16:13,420 --> 03:16:14,000
left leg.

5681
03:16:14,380 --> 03:16:16,100
As of today, I'm still faced with the

5682
03:16:16,100 --> 03:16:18,820
possibility of a second amputation above the knee.

5683
03:16:19,180 --> 03:16:20,440
I presume it's the on the right knee.

5684
03:16:21,060 --> 03:16:21,820
Life has changed.

5685
03:16:21,960 --> 03:16:23,640
Any prayers and well wishes, and of course,

5686
03:16:23,740 --> 03:16:24,460
no agenda karma.

5687
03:16:24,800 --> 03:16:26,760
The show remains the best podcast in the

5688
03:16:26,760 --> 03:16:27,020
universe.

5689
03:16:27,400 --> 03:16:29,320
Everybody be thinking of our night here.

5690
03:16:29,400 --> 03:16:30,360
Here's your karma, brother.

5691
03:16:31,200 --> 03:16:32,720
You've got karma.

5692
03:16:34,140 --> 03:16:36,060
And then we have a make good from

5693
03:16:36,060 --> 03:16:37,580
Ashley Williams.

5694
03:16:37,580 --> 03:16:39,780
This is from episode 1756.

5695
03:16:40,040 --> 03:16:41,780
She supported us with 333.

5696
03:16:43,140 --> 03:16:44,100
And somehow...

5697
03:16:44,100 --> 03:16:45,280
Oh, her note got cut off.

5698
03:16:45,340 --> 03:16:45,600
Yes.

5699
03:16:45,860 --> 03:16:47,100
She's from Norma, Illinois.

5700
03:16:47,900 --> 03:16:50,000
And here's the full note with my Instagram

5701
03:16:50,000 --> 03:16:55,280
account, OhHeySamsClub hit 333,000 followers this week.

5702
03:16:55,780 --> 03:16:56,500
Holy crap.

5703
03:16:56,540 --> 03:16:57,920
You need to post about no agenda.

5704
03:16:58,840 --> 03:17:00,680
I knew it was a sign to make

5705
03:17:00,680 --> 03:17:02,600
a first time donation to the best podcast

5706
03:17:02,600 --> 03:17:03,140
in the universe.

5707
03:17:03,320 --> 03:17:06,640
Aside from Influencer, my tax guy says it's

5708
03:17:06,640 --> 03:17:08,740
a real job, I can now add Executive

5709
03:17:08,740 --> 03:17:10,940
Producer to my resume, something our four human

5710
03:17:10,940 --> 03:17:13,920
resources would undoubtedly brag about to their peers.

5711
03:17:14,580 --> 03:17:15,960
It was my husband, Zach, who hit me

5712
03:17:15,960 --> 03:17:17,920
in the mouth early in the pandemic, and

5713
03:17:17,920 --> 03:17:19,680
the show has been instrumental in helping us

5714
03:17:19,680 --> 03:17:22,860
feel sane while everything has become increasingly not

5715
03:17:22,860 --> 03:17:23,360
normal.

5716
03:17:23,620 --> 03:17:28,900
Follow me at OhHeySamsClub, OhHeyWalmart, and OhHeyAldi on

5717
03:17:28,900 --> 03:17:30,900
Instagram, where I share all the things you

5718
03:17:30,900 --> 03:17:34,020
didn't know you needed, now featuring America-made

5719
03:17:34,020 --> 03:17:34,820
goods in America.

5720
03:17:35,480 --> 03:17:36,840
Now this is a good idea.

5721
03:17:38,040 --> 03:17:40,620
What a smart idea to be an influencer

5722
03:17:40,620 --> 03:17:43,960
for Sam's Club, Walmart, and Aldi.

5723
03:17:45,180 --> 03:17:45,980
That's a good idea.

5724
03:17:46,820 --> 03:17:48,280
Yeah, this is a noted genius.

5725
03:17:48,580 --> 03:17:49,800
Dynamite idea, yes.

5726
03:17:50,240 --> 03:17:50,780
Could you do OhHey?

5727
03:17:50,780 --> 03:17:52,200
You don't have Aldi's out here.

5728
03:17:52,220 --> 03:17:53,840
How about OhHeyNoAgenda?

5729
03:17:54,180 --> 03:17:55,500
I'm just saying, might be.

5730
03:17:55,620 --> 03:17:56,400
Yeah, there you go.

5731
03:17:57,440 --> 03:17:58,080
OhHeyNoAgenda, yeah.

5732
03:17:58,260 --> 03:17:59,880
Influence for us, thank you very much, we

5733
03:17:59,880 --> 03:18:03,140
appreciate it, and congratulations again with your executive

5734
03:18:03,140 --> 03:18:03,780
producership.

5735
03:18:03,860 --> 03:18:04,860
And now on to the meetups.

5736
03:18:07,060 --> 03:18:07,520
Meetups!

5737
03:18:08,060 --> 03:18:08,520
Meetups!

5738
03:18:09,560 --> 03:18:10,020
Meetups!

5739
03:18:11,720 --> 03:18:14,040
Meetups take place all around the world.

5740
03:18:14,180 --> 03:18:16,160
You can find the entire list calendar at

5741
03:18:16,160 --> 03:18:19,280
NoAgendaMeetups.com, and we love it when people

5742
03:18:19,280 --> 03:18:20,540
send in their meetup reports.

5743
03:18:20,680 --> 03:18:22,480
Here's the big one from the Indie April

5744
03:18:22,480 --> 03:18:22,880
Meetup.

5745
03:18:22,900 --> 03:18:23,500
This is Sir Mark.

5746
03:18:23,660 --> 03:18:25,780
And this is Dame Maria, with a chaotic

5747
03:18:25,780 --> 03:18:27,480
meetup today in Indianapolis.

5748
03:18:27,760 --> 03:18:29,540
Thank you for your courage amongst all the

5749
03:18:29,540 --> 03:18:29,920
chaos.

5750
03:18:30,460 --> 03:18:32,660
Sir Ohio Bloke, and I made it down

5751
03:18:32,660 --> 03:18:33,560
to Indie again.

5752
03:18:33,920 --> 03:18:35,480
Nice to meet up with everybody.

5753
03:18:35,700 --> 03:18:36,860
Great time as always.

5754
03:18:37,020 --> 03:18:37,480
In the morning.

5755
03:18:37,720 --> 03:18:38,660
Outer from Indianapolis.

5756
03:18:38,860 --> 03:18:41,180
Unfortunately, I am leaving early, but thank you

5757
03:18:41,180 --> 03:18:42,560
for your courage in the morning.

5758
03:18:42,640 --> 03:18:45,420
In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great

5759
03:18:45,420 --> 03:18:47,220
time in Indie after missing the last two

5760
03:18:47,220 --> 03:18:47,640
meetups.

5761
03:18:47,800 --> 03:18:49,320
It's great to be back with the family.

5762
03:18:49,540 --> 03:18:51,500
In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR

5763
03:18:51,500 --> 03:18:52,480
speaking.

5764
03:18:52,940 --> 03:18:57,560
Coming direct to you from the NPR Studios.

5765
03:18:58,180 --> 03:19:01,080
Sir Benny here, just watching Sir Mark using

5766
03:19:01,080 --> 03:19:03,760
his machine that Adam always talks about.

5767
03:19:03,880 --> 03:19:05,720
He's having problems with it, but wish you

5768
03:19:05,720 --> 03:19:06,440
guys the best.

5769
03:19:06,540 --> 03:19:07,240
Hi, this is Cindy.

5770
03:19:07,500 --> 03:19:09,400
Dame of the Titos from Carmel, Indiana.

5771
03:19:09,660 --> 03:19:11,120
I'm here to tell you climate change is

5772
03:19:11,120 --> 03:19:11,340
real.

5773
03:19:11,460 --> 03:19:12,760
We survived the tornadoes.

5774
03:19:12,860 --> 03:19:14,620
Hey, it's Gary here, and just a word

5775
03:19:14,620 --> 03:19:16,340
out to Elon and everybody else.

5776
03:19:16,500 --> 03:19:18,200
What good is Doge finding all the corruption

5777
03:19:18,200 --> 03:19:19,700
if nobody is getting arrested?

5778
03:19:19,980 --> 03:19:22,340
Brisky here, drinking some beer at the Blind

5779
03:19:22,340 --> 03:19:22,840
Isle.

5780
03:19:23,020 --> 03:19:24,720
Yo, yo, yo, this is Emily, the currently

5781
03:19:24,720 --> 03:19:25,360
employed fed.

5782
03:19:25,480 --> 03:19:27,860
Hey, John, can we uh, can we, miga,

5783
03:19:28,080 --> 03:19:30,080
can we make ISOs great again?

5784
03:19:30,340 --> 03:19:31,020
Get rid of AI.

5785
03:19:31,240 --> 03:19:33,080
This is Syrup of the Maple Bot.

5786
03:19:33,400 --> 03:19:34,980
I could not make the meetup today, so

5787
03:19:34,980 --> 03:19:37,120
I sent an AI agent to do my

5788
03:19:37,120 --> 03:19:38,160
meetup report for me.

5789
03:19:38,300 --> 03:19:38,740
Sounds good.

5790
03:19:38,860 --> 03:19:39,700
In the morning, everybody.

5791
03:19:40,040 --> 03:19:42,200
This is the evil Annette Miller cloning Syrup

5792
03:19:42,200 --> 03:19:44,160
of the Maple's voice just because I freaking

5793
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:44,520
can.

5794
03:19:44,800 --> 03:19:46,940
Hi, this is Brandy at the Blind Isle,

5795
03:19:47,060 --> 03:19:48,640
hanging out with, um, No Agenda.

5796
03:19:48,880 --> 03:19:50,380
They really look like they have no agenda.

5797
03:19:50,720 --> 03:19:54,640
Live from Indianapolis, embrace the chaos.

5798
03:19:56,840 --> 03:19:57,980
Embrace the chaos.

5799
03:19:58,100 --> 03:19:58,940
That's a good one.

5800
03:19:59,840 --> 03:20:00,960
Did we come up with that, or did

5801
03:20:00,960 --> 03:20:02,140
they come up with that all by themselves?

5802
03:20:02,160 --> 03:20:03,220
Yeah, sounds like them.

5803
03:20:03,360 --> 03:20:04,020
I like it.

5804
03:20:04,060 --> 03:20:05,540
And thank you for putting your server in

5805
03:20:05,540 --> 03:20:06,000
your report.

5806
03:20:06,080 --> 03:20:06,940
We need more of those.

5807
03:20:07,280 --> 03:20:08,600
Here's Leiden, the Netherlands.

5808
03:20:08,880 --> 03:20:09,760
Ah, these guys.

5809
03:20:09,960 --> 03:20:12,540
Yeah, I think they were celebrating 420 early.

5810
03:20:12,660 --> 03:20:14,000
Baron Rob from Leiden.

5811
03:20:14,680 --> 03:20:16,660
Dranklokaal 1650 for another great meetup.

5812
03:20:16,860 --> 03:20:17,360
Thank you.

5813
03:20:17,680 --> 03:20:18,200
This is Rick.

5814
03:20:18,280 --> 03:20:18,820
In the morning.

5815
03:20:19,040 --> 03:20:19,600
Great meetup.

5816
03:20:19,740 --> 03:20:19,940
Great.

5817
03:20:20,460 --> 03:20:23,200
Hello, this is Adam, a big fan.

5818
03:20:23,360 --> 03:20:24,900
Thank you for the lot of value.

5819
03:20:25,080 --> 03:20:26,980
I never paid for any of it.

5820
03:20:27,320 --> 03:20:30,620
Hi, in the morning.

5821
03:20:31,320 --> 03:20:32,940
So, what would you do in the morning?

5822
03:20:33,200 --> 03:20:34,720
I'll do the rashi in the morning.

5823
03:20:35,220 --> 03:20:36,420
Hey, Pedro, in the morning.

5824
03:20:36,560 --> 03:20:37,080
In the morning.

5825
03:20:37,260 --> 03:20:37,900
Great meetup.

5826
03:20:38,160 --> 03:20:41,240
Thank you for organizing Rob in the morning.

5827
03:20:41,500 --> 03:20:43,980
For who is Peter, bartender of this evening.

5828
03:20:44,180 --> 03:20:44,940
Thank you very much.

5829
03:20:45,140 --> 03:20:45,800
This is Sir Henry.

5830
03:20:45,980 --> 03:20:46,380
In the morning.

5831
03:20:46,780 --> 03:20:48,460
Alright, thank you very much Leiden.

5832
03:20:48,580 --> 03:20:49,760
We go over to Japan.

5833
03:20:49,940 --> 03:20:51,480
I told you these No Agenda meetups are

5834
03:20:51,480 --> 03:20:51,840
bad.

5835
03:20:51,940 --> 03:20:52,640
They're worldwide.

5836
03:20:52,940 --> 03:20:54,780
This is the, I think, the Kyoto meetup.

5837
03:20:55,580 --> 03:20:56,740
Hello, Kyoto.

5838
03:20:56,920 --> 03:20:57,600
Come on in.

5839
03:20:57,820 --> 03:20:58,420
In the morning.

5840
03:20:58,780 --> 03:21:00,820
This is Sir Bill of Osaka coming to

5841
03:21:00,820 --> 03:21:03,040
you live from the host city of the

5842
03:21:03,040 --> 03:21:04,960
2025 World Expo.

5843
03:21:05,440 --> 03:21:07,560
And more importantly, the ITM Airport.

5844
03:21:09,160 --> 03:21:11,620
We're here at the Osaka Castle, viewing the

5845
03:21:11,620 --> 03:21:14,220
cherry blossoms and enjoying some adult beverages.

5846
03:21:15,120 --> 03:21:17,240
A good portion of the participants are ham

5847
03:21:17,240 --> 03:21:18,080
radio operators.

5848
03:21:18,360 --> 03:21:21,260
We'd like to wish JCD 73s on his

5849
03:21:21,260 --> 03:21:22,220
73rd birthday.

5850
03:21:22,900 --> 03:21:24,460
We're all glad we were able to pressure

5851
03:21:24,460 --> 03:21:26,440
you into renewing your call sign.

5852
03:21:27,900 --> 03:21:29,820
This is Sir Skull and Skrull.

5853
03:21:31,280 --> 03:21:31,840
ITM.

5854
03:21:32,060 --> 03:21:33,300
It's like a party.

5855
03:21:33,780 --> 03:21:35,480
In the morning, douche bag.

5856
03:21:36,060 --> 03:21:37,840
This is Casey from Osaka, Japan.

5857
03:21:38,060 --> 03:21:38,960
It's like a hanami.

5858
03:21:40,260 --> 03:21:42,680
ITM from John in Kyoto.

5859
03:21:43,480 --> 03:21:46,200
I lowered myself to come down and visit

5860
03:21:46,200 --> 03:21:48,500
the Osaka lowlanders, and we had a good

5861
03:21:48,500 --> 03:21:50,720
time, but we didn't get to eat whale

5862
03:21:50,720 --> 03:21:51,340
meat this time.

5863
03:21:51,440 --> 03:21:52,100
Maybe next time.

5864
03:21:54,880 --> 03:21:55,980
73s, John.

5865
03:21:56,420 --> 03:21:57,760
This is Sir 3D.

5866
03:21:58,580 --> 03:22:00,660
We had a great meetup here in Osaka.

5867
03:22:01,260 --> 03:22:02,440
Hi, this is Mike.

5868
03:22:02,580 --> 03:22:04,760
We had an amazing meetup under the cherry

5869
03:22:04,760 --> 03:22:06,860
blossoms and some amazing weather as well.

5870
03:22:06,980 --> 03:22:07,680
Really incredible.

5871
03:22:08,180 --> 03:22:09,760
Oh, by the way, listen to my podcast,

5872
03:22:09,880 --> 03:22:12,100
Adult Music, with the pink neon logo.

5873
03:22:12,340 --> 03:22:14,500
We talk about new classical and jazz albums.

5874
03:22:15,760 --> 03:22:16,200
Alright.

5875
03:22:17,140 --> 03:22:19,680
It was the Osaka meetup, I stand corrected.

5876
03:22:19,820 --> 03:22:23,580
And for those hams in Japan, do you

5877
03:22:23,580 --> 03:22:24,300
guys do digital?

5878
03:22:25,180 --> 03:22:26,460
I'd like to see if I can get

5879
03:22:26,460 --> 03:22:27,900
a little cue show going with you guys

5880
03:22:27,900 --> 03:22:29,040
on the digital ham.

5881
03:22:29,180 --> 03:22:29,620
Send me a note.

5882
03:22:30,120 --> 03:22:30,700
That should be fun.

5883
03:22:30,800 --> 03:22:32,360
I got 15 watts BEP.

5884
03:22:33,520 --> 03:22:35,300
We have a meetup taking place today.

5885
03:22:35,740 --> 03:22:37,600
It's the Ottawa meetup for Ottowans.

5886
03:22:37,780 --> 03:22:38,960
It's underway now.

5887
03:22:39,300 --> 03:22:40,820
Liam McGuire's.

5888
03:22:40,960 --> 03:22:43,480
That's the venue in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

5889
03:22:43,900 --> 03:22:45,420
On Thursday, our next show day, the North

5890
03:22:45,420 --> 03:22:47,640
Georgia two-year anniversary meetup.

5891
03:22:47,740 --> 03:22:49,400
Six o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in

5892
03:22:49,400 --> 03:22:50,240
Alpharetta, Georgia.

5893
03:22:50,560 --> 03:22:52,800
And also on Thursday, it's like a party

5894
03:22:52,800 --> 03:22:53,540
in Sacramento.

5895
03:22:53,900 --> 03:22:57,000
Six o'clock Sackyard in Sacramento, California.

5896
03:22:57,480 --> 03:22:59,080
The douche, Devin, will be hosting that.

5897
03:22:59,400 --> 03:23:02,940
Many more meetups throughout June, as I can

5898
03:23:02,940 --> 03:23:04,000
see on the calendar here.

5899
03:23:04,260 --> 03:23:05,800
Go to noagentomeetups.com.

5900
03:23:05,860 --> 03:23:07,800
This is where you get the connection that

5901
03:23:07,800 --> 03:23:08,580
gives you protection.

5902
03:23:08,780 --> 03:23:11,380
All these people will be first responders in

5903
03:23:11,380 --> 03:23:11,960
an emergency.

5904
03:23:12,460 --> 03:23:13,800
And you get to hang out with some

5905
03:23:13,800 --> 03:23:14,440
fun people.

5906
03:23:14,600 --> 03:23:15,680
Send in reports, everybody.

5907
03:23:16,080 --> 03:23:17,140
Noagentomeetups.com.

5908
03:23:17,180 --> 03:23:19,180
If you can't find one near you, start

5909
03:23:19,180 --> 03:23:19,820
one yourself.

5910
03:23:20,400 --> 03:23:23,760
Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all

5911
03:23:23,760 --> 03:23:26,040
the nights and days.

5912
03:23:27,340 --> 03:23:29,660
You wanna be where you won't be.

5913
03:23:29,880 --> 03:23:31,760
Triggered or held lame.

5914
03:23:32,460 --> 03:23:36,860
You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

5915
03:23:37,980 --> 03:23:39,520
It's like a party.

5916
03:23:39,800 --> 03:23:42,560
And now we have the machine versus man.

5917
03:23:42,880 --> 03:23:43,520
That's right.

5918
03:23:43,740 --> 03:23:45,580
I come up with the real ISOs, the

5919
03:23:45,580 --> 03:23:47,600
ISOs that are made by people, by human

5920
03:23:47,600 --> 03:23:47,980
beings.

5921
03:23:48,420 --> 03:23:50,380
John has moved over to the dark side

5922
03:23:50,380 --> 03:23:53,420
and he only does his AI-generated drivel.

5923
03:23:53,640 --> 03:23:54,800
Slop, slop, slop.

5924
03:23:54,920 --> 03:23:56,760
Do you even have any ISOs?

5925
03:23:56,940 --> 03:23:57,820
I said you're one.

5926
03:23:57,980 --> 03:23:59,320
It was last night.

5927
03:23:59,600 --> 03:23:59,800
One.

5928
03:24:00,040 --> 03:24:00,600
One ISO?

5929
03:24:01,180 --> 03:24:01,840
Yeah, one.

5930
03:24:01,840 --> 03:24:02,400
One.

5931
03:24:02,800 --> 03:24:04,460
I'm using the one.

5932
03:24:05,060 --> 03:24:06,600
This is the way it's gonna be from

5933
03:24:06,600 --> 03:24:07,180
now on.

5934
03:24:07,520 --> 03:24:10,320
If you have nothing, because you've been picking

5935
03:24:10,320 --> 03:24:12,120
your own every time, so if you have

5936
03:24:12,120 --> 03:24:13,960
nothing, the one will back you up and

5937
03:24:13,960 --> 03:24:14,780
you'll have a good one.

5938
03:24:14,860 --> 03:24:15,480
I have four.

5939
03:24:16,480 --> 03:24:17,160
Yeah, you always have.

5940
03:24:17,220 --> 03:24:19,160
Well, you have four today, you'll have three.

5941
03:24:19,600 --> 03:24:20,820
I'm gonna hold yours.

5942
03:24:22,340 --> 03:24:22,820
Here we go.

5943
03:24:22,900 --> 03:24:23,640
Here's my first.

5944
03:24:24,200 --> 03:24:26,840
This is the best podcast in the universe.

5945
03:24:27,060 --> 03:24:27,800
That was pretty bad.

5946
03:24:27,820 --> 03:24:28,380
That's you.

5947
03:24:28,560 --> 03:24:29,660
No, that was not me.

5948
03:24:29,660 --> 03:24:30,860
That was not me.

5949
03:24:31,460 --> 03:24:33,000
Here's another one I have picked up.

5950
03:24:33,160 --> 03:24:35,500
Happy Easter to you and to all out

5951
03:24:35,500 --> 03:24:36,040
there listening.

5952
03:24:38,340 --> 03:24:40,540
That theory has been debunked.

5953
03:24:42,140 --> 03:24:44,040
No, I think I really, I do have

5954
03:24:44,040 --> 03:24:45,100
one that I think is worth it.

5955
03:24:45,120 --> 03:24:45,800
It's this one.

5956
03:24:45,980 --> 03:24:48,000
Oh, man, the show's over.

5957
03:24:48,420 --> 03:24:49,800
Yeah, come on.

5958
03:24:50,060 --> 03:24:51,040
That sounds like AI to me.

5959
03:24:51,060 --> 03:24:51,940
No, that's a kid.

5960
03:24:52,080 --> 03:24:53,900
Oh, man, the show's over.

5961
03:24:54,260 --> 03:24:55,080
That's not AI.

5962
03:24:55,380 --> 03:24:56,340
That's a real kid.

5963
03:24:57,180 --> 03:24:57,720
Play mine.

5964
03:24:57,720 --> 03:24:59,720
The show was magnifico.

5965
03:25:00,820 --> 03:25:02,220
I don't know, man.

5966
03:25:02,300 --> 03:25:04,320
Oh, man, the show's over.

5967
03:25:05,340 --> 03:25:06,180
Give it to the kid.

5968
03:25:06,280 --> 03:25:07,440
We give it to the kid.

5969
03:25:07,580 --> 03:25:08,900
John, you are such a mensch.

5970
03:25:08,940 --> 03:25:09,720
Thank you very much.

5971
03:25:09,760 --> 03:25:11,500
And now, everybody, it's time for John's tip

5972
03:25:11,500 --> 03:25:12,040
of the day.

5973
03:25:23,480 --> 03:25:27,320
So my tip of the day is not

5974
03:25:27,320 --> 03:25:28,520
to buy a Beelink.

5975
03:25:30,260 --> 03:25:32,100
It's an anti-tip of the day.

5976
03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:36,140
So what I did was I decided to...

5977
03:25:36,140 --> 03:25:36,820
Hold on a second.

5978
03:25:37,380 --> 03:25:39,680
Even though we didn't have official tips of

5979
03:25:39,680 --> 03:25:42,720
the day, without a doubt, Beelink at one

5980
03:25:42,720 --> 03:25:44,260
point would have been a tip of the

5981
03:25:44,260 --> 03:25:44,460
day.

5982
03:25:44,520 --> 03:25:46,120
You were telling everybody, oh, you got to

5983
03:25:46,120 --> 03:25:46,780
get the Beelink.

5984
03:25:46,880 --> 03:25:47,220
It's great.

5985
03:25:47,300 --> 03:25:49,860
Well, it's a cheap little computer that works

5986
03:25:49,860 --> 03:25:51,340
until it doesn't.

5987
03:25:51,460 --> 03:25:51,840
Yes.

5988
03:25:52,500 --> 03:25:56,520
And so, but, I mean, I'm still just

5989
03:25:56,520 --> 03:25:58,000
hanging in there, but I decided I'm going

5990
03:25:58,000 --> 03:25:59,360
to run Linux on this thing and see

5991
03:25:59,360 --> 03:25:59,760
if I can do it.

5992
03:25:59,780 --> 03:26:01,280
But then I said, well, you know, I

5993
03:26:01,280 --> 03:26:03,160
want to run live Linux.

5994
03:26:03,440 --> 03:26:06,540
So just stick in that USB stick and

5995
03:26:06,540 --> 03:26:07,380
make a run.

5996
03:26:08,200 --> 03:26:09,540
So you got to get in...

5997
03:26:09,540 --> 03:26:09,760
Okay.

5998
03:26:09,840 --> 03:26:11,660
If you want to run a live anything,

5999
03:26:11,860 --> 03:26:13,840
you get the ISO, which is the...

6000
03:26:15,020 --> 03:26:15,380
Yeah.

6001
03:26:16,680 --> 03:26:17,400
The image.

6002
03:26:17,420 --> 03:26:18,600
ISO stands for something.

6003
03:26:18,760 --> 03:26:19,520
I don't remember what.

6004
03:26:19,520 --> 03:26:21,560
Image something.

6005
03:26:21,760 --> 03:26:24,040
Is it the image of the disk?

6006
03:26:24,060 --> 03:26:24,980
Of the disk, yes.

6007
03:26:25,920 --> 03:26:27,260
But you want to run it.

6008
03:26:27,300 --> 03:26:28,460
You want to make it bootable.

6009
03:26:29,080 --> 03:26:31,500
And so you want to make a live

6010
03:26:31,500 --> 03:26:33,700
version of, like, for example, I have an

6011
03:26:33,700 --> 03:26:35,620
ISO of Linux that I could run.

6012
03:26:36,060 --> 03:26:36,160
Mint.

6013
03:26:36,540 --> 03:26:37,280
Mint Linux.

6014
03:26:37,280 --> 03:26:39,300
I think it's up to version 24 or

6015
03:26:39,300 --> 03:26:39,520
something.

6016
03:26:39,640 --> 03:26:40,140
It's ridiculous.

6017
03:26:41,440 --> 03:26:43,240
They still haven't got any good audio stuff,

6018
03:26:43,340 --> 03:26:43,860
which is weird.

6019
03:26:44,300 --> 03:26:45,120
Don't get me started.

6020
03:26:46,200 --> 03:26:48,000
You need to get a copy of this.

6021
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:49,620
This is a handy product anyway.

6022
03:26:49,800 --> 03:26:51,600
It's called Balena Etcher.

6023
03:26:51,960 --> 03:26:52,420
Oh, yes.

6024
03:26:52,500 --> 03:26:54,540
Well, anyone who has ever made a live

6025
03:26:54,540 --> 03:26:57,900
Linux USB has a copy of Balena Etcher.

6026
03:26:59,060 --> 03:27:00,340
So that's my tip of the day.

6027
03:27:00,440 --> 03:27:01,720
Get a copy of Balena Etcher.

6028
03:27:01,880 --> 03:27:02,940
Make a live...

6029
03:27:04,040 --> 03:27:04,920
It's for USB.

6030
03:27:05,060 --> 03:27:06,880
It also burn a disk, but it's for

6031
03:27:06,880 --> 03:27:09,340
making live USBs, which is the easiest way

6032
03:27:09,340 --> 03:27:09,720
to do it.

6033
03:27:09,740 --> 03:27:10,360
You know, it's great.

6034
03:27:11,780 --> 03:27:13,020
I'm going to add to your tip.

6035
03:27:13,720 --> 03:27:15,620
You can actually then take your computer with

6036
03:27:15,620 --> 03:27:17,720
you and wherever you are, you just say,

6037
03:27:17,820 --> 03:27:18,960
hey, can I just borrow your computer?

6038
03:27:19,200 --> 03:27:19,480
Bam!

6039
03:27:19,540 --> 03:27:20,900
You jack that stick in there.

6040
03:27:21,080 --> 03:27:23,380
You change the boot order, and there's your

6041
03:27:23,380 --> 03:27:24,060
computer back.

6042
03:27:26,650 --> 03:27:28,730
First of all, you have to go into

6043
03:27:28,730 --> 03:27:31,010
the guy's system and change the boot order,

6044
03:27:31,130 --> 03:27:32,770
which is insulting.

6045
03:27:35,610 --> 03:27:37,250
Is it not insulting?

6046
03:27:37,790 --> 03:27:38,810
Maybe it's not insulting.

6047
03:27:40,470 --> 03:27:42,450
But, yes, you can do exactly what Adam

6048
03:27:42,450 --> 03:27:42,790
said.

6049
03:27:43,230 --> 03:27:44,930
But Balena Etcher is the way to make

6050
03:27:44,930 --> 03:27:45,650
these...

6051
03:27:45,650 --> 03:27:47,370
is the best way, at least currently.

6052
03:27:47,530 --> 03:27:48,950
There's other systems that do this.

6053
03:27:49,110 --> 03:27:50,470
I used something else before.

6054
03:27:50,990 --> 03:27:51,790
But it's a good way to do it.

6055
03:27:51,810 --> 03:27:54,290
But you want these live...

6056
03:27:54,290 --> 03:27:56,070
It's called live because it boots from the

6057
03:27:56,070 --> 03:27:56,750
little...

6058
03:27:56,750 --> 03:27:57,830
from the stick.

6059
03:27:58,230 --> 03:27:59,630
You don't have to install it on the

6060
03:27:59,630 --> 03:28:00,150
machine.

6061
03:28:00,790 --> 03:28:02,390
Because if I...

6062
03:28:02,390 --> 03:28:04,310
I was going to say, what is the

6063
03:28:04,310 --> 03:28:07,290
advantage of using the live, according to you

6064
03:28:07,290 --> 03:28:08,210
as the tip monster?

6065
03:28:08,470 --> 03:28:10,190
That way, when you take the stick out,

6066
03:28:10,250 --> 03:28:11,750
then it goes back to the old operating

6067
03:28:11,750 --> 03:28:12,090
system.

6068
03:28:12,090 --> 03:28:12,930
You still have everything.

6069
03:28:13,150 --> 03:28:15,970
You still have all your old stuff intact.

6070
03:28:16,750 --> 03:28:18,930
So, what happened to your B-Link that

6071
03:28:18,930 --> 03:28:20,610
you decided to go this way?

6072
03:28:22,010 --> 03:28:24,590
I'm getting a story.

6073
03:28:24,710 --> 03:28:26,070
I think it's the...

6074
03:28:26,070 --> 03:28:28,190
whether it's the B-Link itself, probably not

6075
03:28:28,190 --> 03:28:30,650
the B-Link itself, as opposed to the

6076
03:28:30,650 --> 03:28:34,890
SSD that is failing.

6077
03:28:35,250 --> 03:28:35,590
Yes.

6078
03:28:35,730 --> 03:28:37,450
So, what you're saying, this is a tip.

6079
03:28:37,570 --> 03:28:40,050
When your crappy old machine craps out, you

6080
03:28:40,050 --> 03:28:41,550
can still bring it back to life with

6081
03:28:41,550 --> 03:28:42,890
a live Linux USB.

6082
03:28:43,850 --> 03:28:46,290
Yeah, or you could run Windows off the

6083
03:28:46,290 --> 03:28:47,870
little USB, too, if you wanted to.

6084
03:28:47,990 --> 03:28:49,030
Oh, no, no, no.

6085
03:28:49,270 --> 03:28:50,530
Is there a live Windows?

6086
03:28:52,090 --> 03:28:53,310
You can make it with...

6087
03:28:53,310 --> 03:28:55,030
You can make a live Windows if you

6088
03:28:55,030 --> 03:28:55,210
want.

6089
03:28:55,250 --> 03:28:57,290
Whatever you do, don't make a live Windows

6090
03:28:57,290 --> 03:28:57,910
stick, people.

6091
03:28:58,030 --> 03:28:59,270
Get your Balena Etcher.

6092
03:28:59,410 --> 03:29:00,170
That's what you want.

6093
03:29:00,270 --> 03:29:01,030
That is John C.

6094
03:29:01,230 --> 03:29:02,090
Dvorak's Tip of the Day.

6095
03:29:02,190 --> 03:29:05,170
Go to tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com.

6096
03:29:11,990 --> 03:29:13,970
And sometimes, Adam.

6097
03:29:14,670 --> 03:29:15,810
Created by Dana Brunetti.

6098
03:29:16,170 --> 03:29:19,430
Well, we have quite the bonanza coming up

6099
03:29:19,430 --> 03:29:21,090
on the live stream.

6100
03:29:21,790 --> 03:29:24,150
So, first of all, after today's show, Canary

6101
03:29:24,150 --> 03:29:26,850
Cry Talk News, and they will be doing

6102
03:29:26,850 --> 03:29:29,810
some eschatology with the false prophets in the

6103
03:29:29,810 --> 03:29:32,230
last days, which is a call-in discussion,

6104
03:29:32,390 --> 03:29:32,730
apparently.

6105
03:29:33,070 --> 03:29:35,570
But tonight, at 10 o'clock Eastern, a

6106
03:29:35,570 --> 03:29:39,430
420 Bowl after Bowl Easter special, Sir Spencer

6107
03:29:39,430 --> 03:29:40,870
and Dana Brunetti and Sam DeLorean will be

6108
03:29:40,870 --> 03:29:43,550
hanging out with Make Heroism and Mary K.

6109
03:29:43,710 --> 03:29:44,050
Ultra.

6110
03:29:44,450 --> 03:29:46,350
So you know they'll be spinning some value

6111
03:29:46,350 --> 03:29:48,490
for value tracks and having a grand old

6112
03:29:48,490 --> 03:29:48,950
time.

6113
03:29:50,130 --> 03:29:52,790
It's all live on the noagenda stream, trollroom

6114
03:29:52,790 --> 03:29:55,210
.io, or your modern podcast apps.

6115
03:29:55,330 --> 03:29:57,470
And we have end-of-show mixes from

6116
03:29:57,470 --> 03:29:59,830
GX2, a classic that I pulled for you.

6117
03:30:00,150 --> 03:30:01,490
We've got Matty J.

6118
03:30:01,750 --> 03:30:05,210
And brand new from Commodore Dubs, who will

6119
03:30:05,210 --> 03:30:09,210
have our customer service agent, Steve, the anonymous

6120
03:30:09,210 --> 03:30:09,710
Indian.

6121
03:30:10,690 --> 03:30:12,610
And, of course, we will return on Thursday

6122
03:30:12,610 --> 03:30:14,910
for more of your media deconstruction.

6123
03:30:15,090 --> 03:30:16,950
I'm sure something will happen that we'll have

6124
03:30:16,950 --> 03:30:17,650
to talk about.

6125
03:30:18,010 --> 03:30:20,130
Breaking news is all around us all the

6126
03:30:20,130 --> 03:30:20,450
time.

6127
03:30:21,230 --> 03:30:22,490
Coming to you from the heart of the

6128
03:30:22,490 --> 03:30:24,590
Texas Hill Country, where it actually turned out

6129
03:30:24,590 --> 03:30:25,650
a nice day today.

6130
03:30:25,770 --> 03:30:26,850
It's in the high 70s.

6131
03:30:26,850 --> 03:30:28,590
In the morning, everybody, I'm out of curry.

6132
03:30:28,810 --> 03:30:29,550
Boy, I want curry.

6133
03:30:30,850 --> 03:30:32,110
Oh, thank you.

6134
03:30:32,970 --> 03:30:34,910
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.

6135
03:30:34,970 --> 03:30:35,110
Bach.

6136
03:30:35,110 --> 03:30:36,210
We return Thursday.

6137
03:30:36,450 --> 03:30:38,790
Until then, remember us at dvorak.org slash

6138
03:30:38,790 --> 03:30:40,770
na noagendadonations.com.

6139
03:30:40,910 --> 03:30:44,090
Until next time, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey,

6140
03:30:44,190 --> 03:30:44,730
and such.

6141
03:30:47,390 --> 03:31:00,930
We're taking

6142
03:31:00,930 --> 03:31:06,820
things that are organisms and we're injecting them

6143
03:31:06,820 --> 03:31:07,880
into little kids' arms.

6144
03:31:08,040 --> 03:31:09,500
We just shoot them right into the vein.

6145
03:31:09,760 --> 03:31:12,020
We just shoot, just shoot, right into the

6146
03:31:12,020 --> 03:31:12,200
vein.

6147
03:31:22,520 --> 03:31:27,660
And we're taking things that are genetically modified

6148
03:31:27,660 --> 03:31:30,440
organisms and we're injecting them into little kids'

6149
03:31:30,600 --> 03:31:30,720
arms.

6150
03:31:30,900 --> 03:31:32,340
We just shoot right into the vein.

6151
03:31:32,760 --> 03:31:34,920
We just shoot, just shoot, right into the

6152
03:31:34,920 --> 03:31:35,040
vein.

6153
03:31:37,800 --> 03:31:39,960
We just shoot right into the vein.

6154
03:31:40,440 --> 03:31:42,360
We just shoot, we just shoot right into

6155
03:31:42,360 --> 03:31:42,660
the vein.

6156
03:31:47,600 --> 03:31:49,740
There's nothing embarrassing about a hen laying an

6157
03:31:49,740 --> 03:31:51,360
egg and you'd better lay one or it's

6158
03:31:51,360 --> 03:31:51,840
your neck.

6159
03:31:52,920 --> 03:31:55,000
I, uh, give them the old needle once

6160
03:31:55,000 --> 03:31:55,420
in a while.

6161
03:31:55,680 --> 03:31:56,520
I love eggs!

6162
03:31:56,740 --> 03:31:59,400
Egg prices are continuing to soar.

6163
03:31:59,520 --> 03:32:02,200
The cost of eggs has been soaring across

6164
03:32:02,200 --> 03:32:02,820
the country.

6165
03:32:02,960 --> 03:32:04,560
High cost of eggs.

6166
03:32:04,940 --> 03:32:06,700
So what's behind eggflation?

6167
03:32:07,180 --> 03:32:10,600
Pathogenic influenza, more commonly known as bird flu.

6168
03:32:10,780 --> 03:32:13,140
The worst bird flu outbreak in years that

6169
03:32:13,140 --> 03:32:14,740
has just swept through the country.

6170
03:32:15,080 --> 03:32:17,440
Tens of millions of birds have died or

6171
03:32:17,440 --> 03:32:18,200
been slaughtered.

6172
03:32:18,200 --> 03:32:20,400
Bird flu has reduced the egg-laying hen

6173
03:32:20,400 --> 03:32:22,340
population by more than 40 million.

6174
03:32:22,540 --> 03:32:25,080
40 million, that's astounding to think about that.

6175
03:32:25,260 --> 03:32:27,120
Looks like eggs are the new toilet paper.

6176
03:32:27,780 --> 03:32:29,620
It's extremely bad news.

6177
03:32:29,720 --> 03:32:31,440
You might want to consider alternatives.

6178
03:32:31,740 --> 03:32:33,300
This is an egg replacement item.

6179
03:32:33,760 --> 03:32:36,500
These chickens that were laying eggs, those are

6180
03:32:36,500 --> 03:32:37,820
mature hens, right?

6181
03:32:37,900 --> 03:32:39,980
So we don't get a mature hen overnight.

6182
03:32:40,360 --> 03:32:42,460
It takes some time for a chick who

6183
03:32:42,460 --> 03:32:44,080
hatches out of an egg to be lasting

6184
03:32:44,080 --> 03:32:45,880
us into the summer.

6185
03:32:45,880 --> 03:32:48,100
Can I offer you a nice egg in

6186
03:32:48,100 --> 03:32:49,100
this trying time?

6187
03:32:49,140 --> 03:32:50,760
Yeah, he's got an egg, you might as

6188
03:32:50,760 --> 03:32:51,440
well have it.

6189
03:32:51,480 --> 03:32:53,820
If you can't afford some dollar an hour

6190
03:32:53,820 --> 03:32:56,440
person in India, I mean, you can barely

6191
03:32:56,440 --> 03:32:58,900
speak English, this would be better than this.

6192
03:32:59,680 --> 03:33:00,420
The true AI.

6193
03:33:01,540 --> 03:33:03,280
Anonymous Indian, that's what we mean.

6194
03:33:05,120 --> 03:33:06,240
The true AI.

6195
03:33:07,560 --> 03:33:09,280
Anonymous Indian, that's what we mean.

6196
03:33:13,320 --> 03:33:15,200
Always name Steve.

6197
03:33:21,300 --> 03:33:22,880
Customer service, this is Steve.

6198
03:33:23,500 --> 03:33:24,300
The true AI.

6199
03:33:25,300 --> 03:33:26,880
Customer service, this is Steve.

6200
03:33:27,400 --> 03:33:28,200
Thank you for calling.

6201
03:33:28,660 --> 03:33:29,500
Anonymous Indian.

6202
03:33:29,620 --> 03:33:30,840
Customer service, this is Steve.

6203
03:33:31,580 --> 03:33:32,180
Yes, my friend.

6204
03:33:33,380 --> 03:33:34,880
Customer service, this is Steve.

6205
03:33:35,500 --> 03:33:36,520
What is your name, please?

6206
03:33:37,380 --> 03:33:38,840
Customer service, this is Steve.

6207
03:33:39,380 --> 03:33:41,440
Alright, listen very carefully, my friend.

6208
03:33:41,560 --> 03:33:42,860
Customer service, this is Steve.

6209
03:33:43,520 --> 03:33:45,120
I need to advise you that this call

6210
03:33:45,120 --> 03:33:47,120
may be recorded to help with better customer

6211
03:33:47,120 --> 03:33:48,240
service in the future.

6212
03:33:48,520 --> 03:33:49,620
Is that agreeable to you?

6213
03:33:51,220 --> 03:33:52,980
Did I take care of all your customer

6214
03:33:52,980 --> 03:33:55,320
needs in a timely and satisfactory fashion today?

6215
03:33:57,380 --> 03:33:58,880
Customer service, this is Steve.

6216
03:33:59,280 --> 03:34:00,120
The true AI.

6217
03:34:01,440 --> 03:34:03,120
Anonymous Indian, that's what we need.

6218
03:34:03,440 --> 03:34:05,120
Customer service, this is Steve.

6219
03:34:08,040 --> 03:34:15,040
The best podcast in the universe.

6220
03:34:15,960 --> 03:34:17,300
Adios, mofo.

6221
03:34:17,420 --> 03:34:20,780
Dvorak.org slash NA.

6222
03:34:21,480 --> 03:34:23,840
Oh man, the show's over.