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Load up on the Indians.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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DeVora.

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It's Sunday, May 8th, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation media

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assassination episode 1762.

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This is no agenda.

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We've got white smoke.

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And we're broadcasting live from the heart of

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the Texas hill country, right here in FEMA

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region number six.

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In the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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Here from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's apparent

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that Trump's ploy worked.

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We have an American pope.

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I'm John C.

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DeVorak.

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Yeah, I'm kind of mad at myself, in

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hindsight.

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Like, how obvious could he have made it?

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Clearly, he was on the, he was on

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the, he had the inside track.

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Very suspicious.

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My Catholic friends don't understand this thinking of

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mine.

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When I say, oh, Trump was telegraphing it

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all along.

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They mean, what do you mean?

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What do you mean?

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What do you mean?

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Well, we have an American pope.

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That was, I mean, if anything, that was,

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wasn't that guy a long shot?

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What were the odds on him?

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I'd have to go back and look.

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Wow, man.

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It was like, no, that was completely unexpected.

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He was not up there in the top

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five.

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That's for sure.

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No, no.

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So my, my prediction streak is broken.

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I can no longer be like, I predicted

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the pope.

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A streak of one.

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It was a long streak.

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It took many years.

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Well, it was, actually.

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It was a long streak.

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Uh, so the jury seems to still kind

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of be out on this guy.

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Um, um.

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He looks a little like Fauci.

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Well, there's that.

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He's from Chicago.

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Strike two.

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Chicago.

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He's a Bear fan.

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Maybe.

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Um, some are saying, well, he sounds a

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bit like a Francis Jr. You know, he

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was kind of wishy-washy about some scandals.

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Who knows?

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He could also reignite the faith all across

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the country.

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You don't know.

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It could go.

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Don't laugh.

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This is, this is obviously our hope and

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prayer.

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Reignited.

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Somebody's hope and prayer.

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Light it up, Pope.

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Light it up.

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Well, it's just, it's interesting.

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I, you know, it's like, is America now,

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are we on the comeback?

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Is it all complete?

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We've got Pope Trump.

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Doing a trade deal with the Vatican tomorrow.

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What do we buy from them?

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I don't think we buy anything from them.

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Lucifixes.

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Rosary beads.

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Well, that might be an approach.

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So Viva La Papa.

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Congratulations, everybody.

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Why did you name yourself Leo Laporte?

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That one I had not come up with.

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That's a good one.

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Well, speaking of tariffs, we might as well

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get into it with the, the most important

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tariff of all.

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Everybody's flipping out.

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We're all freaking out.

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In Hollywood, the reviews are in for President

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Trump's plan to impose 100% tariffs on

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It's getting panned.

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Are you worried for your industry?

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I'm worried for the industry.

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I'm worried for my livelihood.

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Monique White is executive vice president at California

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Pictures, a Los Angeles based distributor of independent

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film distributor.

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If she, who cares?

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The distributors aren't getting tariffed.

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tariffed.

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If it comes in from overseas.

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my thoughts on this.

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The first thing I thought was these are

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foreign films.

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Let's finish the clip.

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Los Angeles based distributor of independent films.

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It's either going to put a nail in

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the coffin or it's going to incentivize us

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to figure out alternative ways to do production.

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The Motion Picture Association says the U.S.

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already exports triple the film content that it

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imports with a more than 15 billion dollar

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surplus in 2023.

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CBS News has confirmed that actor Jon Voight,

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one of the president's special ambassadors to Hollywood,

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came up with the tariff idea.

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They're given financing by other countries.

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locales for filming.

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Voight told us tariffs would hurt more than

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just the bottom line.

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It's stifling creativity.

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So if someone wants to shoot something that's

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got a certain backdrop, you can't shoot it

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You have to go to the authentic place.

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It's still unclear what the tariffs would be

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Production costs, box office receipts or something else.

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That is bullcrap.

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You're talking to the insiders.

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Do they really think this is going to

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I'm not sure, to be honest.

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Everybody's very afraid, that's for sure.

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Everybody's very worried.

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So if this comes to reality, then this

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could all just go away tomorrow.

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So this is such a well-known fact

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Hollywood is empty.

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It's a shell because everybody's shooting up in

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Vancouver.

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They're shooting in all kinds of foreign countries.

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These are American movies they're not making in

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was A, for the light, and B, for

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the creativity of recreating, you know, fake, nanu

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nanu, creating places that look like you were

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That look like you filmed it there.

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Warner Brothers' all kinds of different little towns.

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I think this is a phenomenal idea and

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long overdue.

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Anyone who's like, oh, Trump's no good.

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They should be quiet.

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This is going to bring back filmmaking to

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Texas has all kinds of incentives.

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Austin used to be really big on that.

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They still can't lure productions into Texas just

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because of all the incentives, quite frankly, the

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payoffs of other countries.

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The bribes.

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Yeah, it's so obvious.

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Hollywood people all have homes in Canada.

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regularly, because everything is happening up north and

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it's happening everywhere.

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to Vancouver, because I used to write for

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I was taking a Friday flight out of

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Vancouver, the place was filled with all these

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It's like flying on Friday to Vegas, packed

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with hookers.

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It's the same thing.

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Packed with hookers.

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Um, so, oh, man, oh, we're talking about

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this.

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Oh, no.

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This is a great idea.

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We invented this.

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And by the way, how about your AI

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and your CGI and all that stuff?

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You don't need to go to these places.

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Make it in America where we invented the

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entertainment industry.

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CNN.

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Here's what they're saying.

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So for all of us at home, can

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you actually tariff something that's not a physical

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product?

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In the sense of, in the traditional sense

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of how you think about a tariff, a

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physical good coming across the border, getting stamped

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by CBP, a company paying the tax that

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you have to pay.

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People charge me fees all the time.

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So what does this look like for the

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Probably higher prices.

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company that's putting the film out.

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So literally, who do you charge?

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Are you saying that because, yeah, who makes

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the movie?

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How and what is the mechanism in which

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they are charged?

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Yeah, you know, most of the series and

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movies that I see streaming, because we flip

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around, it's all crime and death and gratuitous

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sex.

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A lot of gay sex.

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Even the shows you like, oh, you got

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to watch this.

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But beware of episode two.

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That was that show.

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I had to stop watching.

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It was totally gratuitous.

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The show sucked after like a couple of

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episodes.

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Yeah, all they had was butt sex.

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They were doing gay butt sex for no

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reason.

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It was the one with the assassin in

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London.

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Yeah, Blackbird or whatever.

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Something else.

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So, you know, it's like, come on.

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We have Sodom and Gomorrah all over.

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All our cities are.

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You don't even need to do anything.

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Just roll the camera.

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But you want a futuristic hellscape?

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I can name a couple of cities you

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can go to right now.

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Oh, San Francisco would be one of them.

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But it's Trump's.

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Oh, no.

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So California Governor Gavin Newsom popped up.

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He was like, what?

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Hello, this is my industry.

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And he proposed something that the industry is

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already very used to, which is a tax

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credit.

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He wants a $7.5 billion tax credit

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to incentivize the film industry to create more

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films, to film them here in the U

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.S. And I have to say, there was

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this kind of post-labor strike flight from

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California when companies were like, I'm going to

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go make my streaming project somewhere else.

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So, like, the industry is hurting.

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Right, right.

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I think this is right.

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President Trump has taken the stick approach and

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something.

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The industry is not.

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The industry is hurting because of the whole

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model has changed with streaming companies.

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That's why the industry is hurting.

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Right, right.

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Like a tax incentive would be the carrot

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approach.

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And it's so interesting because this conversation parallels

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with the one that's happening in the goods

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sector.

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Manufacturers that get inputs from abroad are asking,

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you know, we want to make more stuff

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here.

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We'd love to, but it's not that easy.

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Instead of hitting us with a stick, can

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we get a can we get a carrot?

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You're just begging for carrots here.

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It's only Tuesday, Courtney.

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OK, I mean, yes, that's what this is.

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These people can do nothing but complain.

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Exactly.

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This is a tax incentive.

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It's an incentive to make them in America.

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I don't want to sound all red, white

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and bonkers here, but yes, this is a

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tax incentive.

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I like that.

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NPR, red, white and bonkers.

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NPR took it to the extreme.

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The film industry started the week with a

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little confusion.

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That was after President Trump announced on Truth

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Social that he was imposing a 100%

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tariff on movies produced outside the U.S.

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On Sunday night, he posted that, quote, the

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movie industry in America is dying a very

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fast death.

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Other countries are offering all sorts of incentives

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to draw our filmmakers and studios away from

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the United States, unquote.

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NPR entertainment correspondent Mandalit Delbarco joins us now

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to talk about this.

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So, Mandalit, the basic question is probably going

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to spring up more questions.

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So how would a 100% tariff on

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films made outside the U.S. actually work?

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Yeah, that's exactly what everyone in Hollywood and

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in film and TV industries around the world

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would like to know.

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Yes.

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President Trump's initial announcement was surprising.

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It left so many questions.

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Who would have to pay a tariff?

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The studios, film distributors?

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Will ticket prices go up?

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Would this be for international films or for

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American films shooting or filming on location or

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on soundstages around the world?

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What about TV and streaming shows?

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There have been a lot of emergency closed

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door meetings, group chats and social media speculation.

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Studios have been quiet so far.

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But the head of IATSE, the union representing

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behind the scenes entertainment workers, says any plan

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must not harm the U.S. or Canadian

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film industries.

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Yeah, well, I want Fran Drescher to come

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out and start, Mr. Trump, I can't wait.

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But of course, this is not this is

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all because of his friends.

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The president says other countries are offering incentives

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to attract movie studios and filmmakers.

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So can you tell us about the incentives

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that he was referring to?

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I know that you have been reporting on

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this.

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Yeah, that's right.

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And it's true that for decades, places like

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Canada, the U.K., Australia and really all

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over the world, they've offered productions generous tax

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incentives, rebates and grants to shoot or film

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in their countries.

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Some have even built new soundstages to entice

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production wanting to cut costs.

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Trump says the global incentives are a threat

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to the national security.

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OK, so what are people overseas saying about

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this announcement from Trump?

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You can imagine a studios and unions around

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the world are worried that this could spell

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the end of their own production industry.

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Yes.

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Some wonder if countries will retaliate with their

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own tariffs on American films.

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Yesterday, President Trump told reporters he wants to

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meet the film industry in this country to

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make sure they're happy with his plan to

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bring back showbiz jobs.

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Hollywood doesn't do very much of that business.

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They have the nice side and everything's good,

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but they don't do very much.

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Yeah.

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So here's the clip about his friends.

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All right.

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So why do you think this issue came

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up at all for President Trump?

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Well, I'll give you a hint.

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John Voigt.

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Trump calls the actor one of his special

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ambassadors, along with John Voigt, universally hated by

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Hollywood, universally hated by Hollywood.

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But oh, no.

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John Voigt.

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Yes, he's he's he's to blame.

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Okay, just alone.

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And Mel Gibson in a video shared with

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NPR Voigt calls Trump the greatest president since

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Abe Lincoln and his friend who loves the

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entertainment business wants to see Hollywood thrive and

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make films bigger and greater than ever before.

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John Voigt says he presented Trump a plan

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to rescue the American film industry with federal

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tax incentives, co-production treaties with other countries

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and subsidies for theater owners and film and

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TV production companies.

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Late last week, Voigt also met with California

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Senator Ben Allen, who co-authored a state

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bill that would expand film and TV incentives,

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along with California Governor Gavin Newsom's plan to

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more than double the state's production tax credits.

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Trump blamed the governor for allowing productions to

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leave California.

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But late last night, Newsom said in a

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statement that he wants to team up with

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the Trump administration to create a $7.5

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billion federal film tax credit.

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Everyone's all they've got all their panties in

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a bunch.

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It's great.

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They got, you know, let's talk about ourselves

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a lot.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's all John Voigt's fault.

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NPR, by the way, they're making content for

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morons.

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When it's certainly when are you still there?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But what what what do you mean?

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Well, listen to this about tariffs.

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Just it's short.

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Treasury Secretary Scott Besant will meet Chinese economic

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officials this weekend in Switzerland.

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Besant says they'll likely talk about de-escalating

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the tariffs between the two nations.

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President Trump's trade war is taking a toll

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on cargo traffic across the Pacific Ocean.

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As NPR Scott Horsley reports, a significant number

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of the ships that were supposed to dock

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this month at the Port of Los Angeles

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have been canceled.

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Rather than pay tariffs of 145 percent, many

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importers have put shipments from China on hold.

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The number of import containers passing through the

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Port of L.A. this week is down

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about 35 percent from a year ago.

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While businesses tried to stockpile goods before the

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tariffs took effect, the port's executive director, Gene

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Sirocco, expects those inventories will start to run

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out in four to six weeks.

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So if you go to the store and

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you're looking for a blue shirt, you may

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see a bunch of purple ones.

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You may not see that blue one in

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your size or style.

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And probably it will be more expensive than

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it was previously.

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Sirocco says the trade war is also hurting

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exports, with fruit, nut and wine growers in

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California's Central Valley reporting a steep drop in

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overseas sales.

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Scott Horsley, NPR News, Washington.

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No blue shirt for you.

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It'll be purple.

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I mean, seriously.

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These people are, you know, not to moan

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about them, but Horowitz is like this too.

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I heard the show.

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By the way, I reached out to him

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and I really tried to help him with

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his sound issues.

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He's got like a Rube Goldberg machine rigged

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up there.

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I'm like, what are you doing?

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Well, you know, I like to post edit

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everything on separate tracks and put on, you

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know, special little sauce on each and John's

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voice and my voice and everybody else's.

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You're nuts.

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But he's, I heard him like, oh, there's

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no containers.

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25 percent less containers.

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There's no ships.

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And you, Mr. Dry Man.

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Have you noticed anything?

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No.

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No.

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I am pushing back against.

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Yes.

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I love it.

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His hair on fire approach to the whole

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thing.

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I love it.

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It's like, I mean, seriously, it is truly

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just junk.

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Most of the stuff we get is just

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junk.

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That's all.

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You know, then we'll have less junk.

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I have one more from NBC.

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Meet the press.

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Let me ask you about Mattel if I

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can, because I think this is where the

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rubber meets the road.

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Yes.

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The rubber meets the road.

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The rubber meets the road.

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By the way, the CEO of Mattel, he's

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like, he's like a weird guy.

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He's like, it's a German.

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I talk like this.

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Yes.

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We like to make toys for the children.

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It's like one of our guys.

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A lot of American consumers.

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The CEO of Mattel is running.

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I'm sorry.

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Comic strip bloggers running Mattel.

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He'd probably do a better job.

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A lot of American consumers, right?

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The CEO of Mattel said that he does

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not expect manufacturing to move to the US,

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but does expect that consumers here will pay

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more.

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Can you walk us through that?

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I mean, that's what we're hearing broadly from

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companies right now, whether it's in private or

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publicly making those sort of assessments.

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Well, the analogy is relevant because we just

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heard from the president a few days ago

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described a situation for Americans as one where

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you might not be able to buy $30

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for your daughter.

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You'll only be able to buy two, and

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maybe those two will cost a few more

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dollars.

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And essentially what Mattel is saying is that's

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exactly what's going to happen here, because they

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might have to take pricing.

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That's the kind of corporate speak, if you

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will, for having to raise the price tags.

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Oh my gosh.

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And meet the press.

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Thank you for this inside lingo lesson.

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Pricing is code for raising the price.

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Thank you.

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That's the kind of corporate speak, if you

559
00:18:05,610 --> 00:18:07,390
will, for having to raise the price tags

560
00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:10,030
at the store for not just Barbies, but

561
00:18:10,030 --> 00:18:11,790
also things like Hot Wheels that Mattel produces

562
00:18:11,790 --> 00:18:12,310
as well.

563
00:18:12,570 --> 00:18:14,790
What's also interesting, though, about the politics of

564
00:18:14,790 --> 00:18:16,210
all this is that as the president is

565
00:18:16,210 --> 00:18:18,530
trying to use these tariffs to essentially whack

566
00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:21,490
the American companies with incentives to produce here

567
00:18:21,490 --> 00:18:23,630
domestically, we have companies that are saying, yeah,

568
00:18:23,650 --> 00:18:25,230
certainly we're going to try to move things

569
00:18:25,230 --> 00:18:26,990
around so we don't have to pay 145

570
00:18:26,990 --> 00:18:28,770
% tariff on things coming out of China.

571
00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:30,610
But instead of moving into the US, we're

572
00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,070
just going to move into other places in

573
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:32,410
the world.

574
00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:34,330
That's what Mattel said in the earnings call.

575
00:18:34,410 --> 00:18:36,190
They're going to try to diversify away from

576
00:18:36,190 --> 00:18:36,570
China.

577
00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:37,770
But they didn't say what comes to the

578
00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:38,090
US.

579
00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:39,270
They're just going to move it to other

580
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:39,730
countries.

581
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:41,710
Kind of similar story with Apple and other

582
00:18:41,710 --> 00:18:44,590
companies that have very much been in the

583
00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,370
spotlight here with regards to whether or not

584
00:18:46,370 --> 00:18:47,390
they're producing here in the US.

585
00:18:47,470 --> 00:18:48,950
They're just saying, yeah, we're just going to

586
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:49,670
not do it in China.

587
00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:51,130
We'll just move it to another country.

588
00:18:51,490 --> 00:18:51,850
Wow.

589
00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:52,530
Thank you.

590
00:18:52,610 --> 00:18:54,370
That's the whole plan, dude.

591
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,960
Stop that from that was meet the press.

592
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,680
It's more like CNBC guy and too much

593
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,120
coffee.

594
00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:08,900
I tried to clip the CNBC lady with

595
00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:11,260
the CEO of Mattel, but he was just,

596
00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:13,860
you know, well, you know, and just going

597
00:19:13,860 --> 00:19:16,600
on, you know, we we have we've been

598
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,280
waiting for this.

599
00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:18,980
We've been prepared for many, many quarters.

600
00:19:19,140 --> 00:19:19,980
We are a great company.

601
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:23,960
You sell.

602
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,200
Plastic stuff to children.

603
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,040
It may be important for people to invest

604
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,500
in the companies, but I just don't see

605
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:35,040
the importance in the big scheme of life.

606
00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:37,360
I don't understand why they have nothing.

607
00:19:37,460 --> 00:19:38,460
They don't make nothing here.

608
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,760
It's an American company.

609
00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:40,280
Yes.

610
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,320
They're an El Segundo.

611
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,740
Yes, I know.

612
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,020
They started in 1945, an American company.

613
00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:47,000
They make nothing here.

614
00:19:47,140 --> 00:19:47,680
Thanks for that.

615
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,460
I knew I knew a woman who worked

616
00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:52,620
there.

617
00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:54,480
She was a high up in the marketing

618
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,340
department when they had the female CEO.

619
00:19:56,340 --> 00:19:57,380
They kicked her out.

620
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,600
I mean, the female CEO just like, no,

621
00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:02,140
no, she didn't do it.

622
00:20:02,140 --> 00:20:03,620
She tried to do all kinds of weird

623
00:20:03,620 --> 00:20:05,140
stuff with the Barbie, if I recall.

624
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,920
And she might have done the trans Barbie.

625
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,100
Didn't we have that at some point?

626
00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:12,340
The trans Barbie?

627
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,100
I think so.

628
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,400
I don't think so.

629
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,280
I think we did.

630
00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:16,180
That's funny, though.

631
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:16,680
I like it.

632
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,560
It's a good idea.

633
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,880
I have I have a feeling we did

634
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,820
have a trans Barbie.

635
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,100
I could be wrong.

636
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,000
The company was incorporated in Hawthorne in 1948.

637
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,620
Yeah.

638
00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:28,440
And the big hit was their big hit.

639
00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,640
The one that really got them going made

640
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,180
by them.

641
00:20:31,180 --> 00:20:33,000
The Magic 8 Ball.

642
00:20:33,140 --> 00:20:34,380
Oh, really?

643
00:20:35,140 --> 00:20:35,240
Yeah.

644
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,000
Oh, that's cool.

645
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,040
I had one.

646
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,560
I had a Magic 8 Ball when I

647
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:39,860
was a kid.

648
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,620
I think I still do.

649
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,580
So on that topic, just because you are

650
00:20:43,580 --> 00:20:45,560
the one who is very closely involved with

651
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,100
a young person of Mattel product using age,

652
00:20:49,940 --> 00:20:51,800
what did you wind up getting for Theodore

653
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,900
for his birthday?

654
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:56,740
Well, I can't tell you because his birthday

655
00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:58,900
party, that's where he gets his gifts, which

656
00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,400
was, of course, he's a Cinco de Mayo,

657
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:00,820
baby.

658
00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:02,900
It won't be till this Friday.

659
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,160
He's listening to the show and you're going

660
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,900
to blow the surprise or you just haven't

661
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:08,680
bought anything yet?

662
00:21:09,020 --> 00:21:10,240
No, no, we got a whole bunch of

663
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,500
stuff.

664
00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:11,280
But what did you get?

665
00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:14,820
Mostly toys that have something to do with

666
00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:15,860
Minecraft.

667
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,760
Oh, OK.

668
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,460
I thought you were getting him socks.

669
00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:23,180
I was going to get socks, but then

670
00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:24,660
Mimi bought a bunch of stuff and I

671
00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:25,920
said, oh, I always put my name on

672
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,420
half of this.

673
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,100
You told me after the show.

674
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,480
I'm going to get him a sweater and

675
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,100
then socks.

676
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,360
I'm like, you are the worst grandfather that

677
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,040
I should be getting to be the granddad

678
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,120
and get the socks.

679
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,780
And then the other joke was I told

680
00:21:38,780 --> 00:21:40,260
Jay, I think I'm going to get him

681
00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:41,240
a bottle of wine.

682
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,940
I told you, like, do not get the

683
00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:47,580
kids socks and a sweater.

684
00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:49,600
These resent you.

685
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,080
In fact, I sent you a link to

686
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,660
the hundred and thirty projects in one.

687
00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:53,380
Did you see that?

688
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,440
Yeah, no, no, I know.

689
00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:56,020
Why no?

690
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,420
Yes, no.

691
00:21:57,420 --> 00:21:58,060
Yes, no.

692
00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:00,860
OK, I thought that was a good idea.

693
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,180
It is a good idea.

694
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,420
And I'm going to get him for Christmas.

695
00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:05,500
I'm going to get him that gift.

696
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,040
Oh, OK.

697
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,620
All right.

698
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,140
But so you basically Mimi went out and

699
00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:10,600
bought a whole bunch of junk from China

700
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,100
for him.

701
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,480
It's way to get exactly a bunch of

702
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,940
junk from China.

703
00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:18,640
I love that before the tariffs, you know,

704
00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:19,780
just get in under the wire.

705
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,240
Come on.

706
00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:20,980
I'm not crazy.

707
00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:23,960
I love that you're indoctrinating him into the

708
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,020
longstanding Dvorak family tradition of not celebrating on

709
00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:28,780
the day itself.

710
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,320
No kid, you're going to celebrate on Friday.

711
00:22:34,090 --> 00:22:36,310
That's did he got a celebration?

712
00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:38,390
He had his birthday party with his little

713
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:40,810
friends over there at the other place where

714
00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:43,550
his friends brought him cheap junk from China.

715
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:44,950
That's kind of no doubt.

716
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:45,810
No doubt.

717
00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:47,110
Hey, today's VE Day.

718
00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:48,850
Nobody's talking about that.

719
00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:51,230
No, today and tomorrow is both.

720
00:22:51,330 --> 00:22:52,290
There's two VE days.

721
00:22:52,350 --> 00:22:53,850
One that turns out there's one today.

722
00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:56,370
We got no donations for it, but there's

723
00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:56,870
one today.

724
00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:57,770
Victory in Europe Day.

725
00:22:57,770 --> 00:22:59,770
That was ours and England's.

726
00:22:59,850 --> 00:23:01,470
But the Russians call it the ninth.

727
00:23:01,610 --> 00:23:02,510
This is the ninth.

728
00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:03,890
And the Russians are the ones who beat

729
00:23:03,890 --> 00:23:04,970
the Germans, not us.

730
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:09,070
The Russians are celebrating today, but they're not

731
00:23:09,070 --> 00:23:10,050
celebrating that.

732
00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:11,550
They are celebrating something else.

733
00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:12,850
Do you know what they celebrate on the

734
00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:13,470
8th of May?

735
00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:14,770
This is great.

736
00:23:15,290 --> 00:23:16,750
They celebrate the 8th.

737
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:17,650
Yes, correct.

738
00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,390
Mongolia's president touches down in Moscow.

739
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:23,130
The latest in a succession of heads of

740
00:23:23,130 --> 00:23:26,050
state to arrive ahead of festivities marking the

741
00:23:26,050 --> 00:23:28,890
80th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany.

742
00:23:29,290 --> 00:23:31,290
Not all of them had smooth journeys getting

743
00:23:31,290 --> 00:23:33,870
there after Russia and Ukraine traded a barrage

744
00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:36,530
of drone attacks disrupting hundreds of flights.

745
00:23:36,850 --> 00:23:38,490
The Kremlin was forced to say it was

746
00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:41,370
taking all necessary measures to ensure the safety

747
00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:43,670
of foreign leaders, more than two dozen of

748
00:23:43,670 --> 00:23:46,750
whom are expected, at Russia's flagship Victory Day

749
00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:47,230
parade.

750
00:23:47,410 --> 00:23:50,190
An opportunity into the bargain for President Vladimir

751
00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:52,450
Putin to hold bilateral meetings with the likes

752
00:23:52,450 --> 00:23:54,550
of Brazil, Serbia and Venezuela.

753
00:23:55,470 --> 00:23:58,050
I would like to convey to you the

754
00:23:58,050 --> 00:24:01,910
special feelings of admiration of the Venezuelan people

755
00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:05,370
years after the victory in the Great Patriotic

756
00:24:05,370 --> 00:24:05,670
War.

757
00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:07,870
We have promising areas of cooperation.

758
00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:09,070
They are obvious.

759
00:24:09,270 --> 00:24:11,530
But the main guest, as Vladimir Putin called

760
00:24:11,530 --> 00:24:14,130
him, is Chinese President Xi Jinping, who's in

761
00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:15,230
town for four days.

762
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:18,410
A hundred or so soldiers from China's army

763
00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:20,990
rehearsed in Moscow ahead of the military parade

764
00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:21,470
Friday.

765
00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:25,270
Their participation highlighting the ever closer relationship between

766
00:24:25,270 --> 00:24:26,170
the two countries.

767
00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:28,490
We better display the friendship between China and

768
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:28,810
Russia.

769
00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:31,850
We've also learned to perform classic Russian songs.

770
00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:35,890
Russia's become increasingly dependent economically on China as

771
00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:39,030
Western countries have sought to diplomatically isolate Putin

772
00:24:39,030 --> 00:24:40,990
after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

773
00:24:41,290 --> 00:24:43,710
Western leaders from key Allied victors in World

774
00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:45,730
War II will not be attending on Friday.

775
00:24:45,970 --> 00:24:48,730
Not even Donald Trump, who nonetheless hasn't ruled

776
00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:50,390
out visiting Moscow someday.

777
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:51,950
It's 80 on the 8th.

778
00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:54,710
I didn't know they celebrated that.

779
00:24:55,270 --> 00:24:57,610
The 80th anniversary of the fall of the

780
00:24:57,610 --> 00:24:58,130
Third Reich.

781
00:24:58,190 --> 00:25:00,210
So they celebrate a day early and everybody

782
00:25:00,210 --> 00:25:00,870
flew in.

783
00:25:01,610 --> 00:25:01,950
Yeah.

784
00:25:02,510 --> 00:25:04,230
And everybody came in for the party.

785
00:25:04,830 --> 00:25:06,830
Yes, but our people, we don't even...

786
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:08,150
Here's the BBC report.

787
00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:09,630
This VE Day BBC.

788
00:25:10,090 --> 00:25:12,970
Well, isn't that Poppy Day?

789
00:25:14,510 --> 00:25:14,990
In...

790
00:25:14,990 --> 00:25:16,250
don't they wear the poppies?

791
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:17,030
They wear the poppies?

792
00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:18,690
The poppy days is some...

793
00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:19,250
Something else.

794
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:19,950
Armistice.

795
00:25:19,950 --> 00:25:20,650
Armistice.

796
00:25:20,830 --> 00:25:21,470
I think that's World War I.

797
00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:23,470
Yeah, sorry, wrong war.

798
00:25:23,970 --> 00:25:26,230
Events will take place across Europe on Thursday

799
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:28,810
to mark the 80th anniversary of VE Day.

800
00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:32,130
On the 8th of May in 1945, radio

801
00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:34,490
announcements in France and Britain declared the war

802
00:25:34,490 --> 00:25:36,370
against Nazi Germany had ended.

803
00:25:36,790 --> 00:25:39,050
The anniversary will be marked in Russia on

804
00:25:39,050 --> 00:25:39,490
Friday.

805
00:25:40,110 --> 00:25:42,170
I just remembered why the woman got fired

806
00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:42,650
at Mattel.

807
00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:44,770
She tried to make the lifelike Barbie.

808
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:46,310
That's what it was.

809
00:25:47,650 --> 00:25:48,270
Like the nipples?

810
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:49,650
Well, no, no.

811
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:51,790
Well, that would have been more lifelike than

812
00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:53,430
the cheap Barbie doll they have now.

813
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:56,110
No, regular length legs, paunchy.

814
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:57,270
No, that's no good.

815
00:25:58,570 --> 00:25:59,890
They look like a runt.

816
00:26:00,790 --> 00:26:02,150
That's what she tried to do.

817
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:03,510
Lifelike Barbie.

818
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:06,270
Uh, no, nobody wants that.

819
00:26:07,710 --> 00:26:08,930
Nobody wants that.

820
00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:11,910
So anyway, back to the VE Day.

821
00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:12,410
Yes.

822
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:15,010
It's like 80th anniversary, the end of the

823
00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:16,310
war, beat Hitler, all this.

824
00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:16,950
Where's our...

825
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:17,650
we got nothing.

826
00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:18,890
No.

827
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:21,330
Well, didn't President Trump declare something?

828
00:26:21,470 --> 00:26:22,530
He must have declared something.

829
00:26:22,910 --> 00:26:24,390
I don't know that he had all he

830
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:25,370
did this morning.

831
00:26:25,450 --> 00:26:27,370
He was on talking yak, yak, yak, and

832
00:26:27,370 --> 00:26:29,950
the complete morning took over a couple of

833
00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:30,830
shows on Fox.

834
00:26:30,930 --> 00:26:32,870
Yeah, a victory day, a proclamation.

835
00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:33,630
Hey, listen to this.

836
00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:34,810
He's talking about today.

837
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:36,490
He's talking about the deal with UK.

838
00:26:36,810 --> 00:26:37,830
They had a trade deal.

839
00:26:38,250 --> 00:26:41,250
Oh, I have the Keir Starmer clips.

840
00:26:41,610 --> 00:26:42,850
This was great.

841
00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:44,070
Hold on a second.

842
00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:47,590
Uh, wait, where's Keir Starmer?

843
00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:51,130
Um, this was so funny.

844
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:54,070
Uh, was it under tariffs for some reason?

845
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:56,090
Oh, wait.

846
00:26:56,970 --> 00:26:58,570
I thought I had a Keir Starmer clip.

847
00:26:59,670 --> 00:27:00,150
Keir.

848
00:27:01,170 --> 00:27:01,970
Uh, yes.

849
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:03,070
No, that's old.

850
00:27:03,290 --> 00:27:03,530
Huh.

851
00:27:04,770 --> 00:27:05,610
I guess not.

852
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:08,050
Well, now I know I have Carney, but

853
00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:09,570
I thought I had Keir.

854
00:27:09,690 --> 00:27:11,570
Well, I do have a different Keir clip,

855
00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:14,790
which was equally disturbing.

856
00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:19,510
Um, only for India, which we probably should

857
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:20,110
talk about.

858
00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:24,050
I didn't and then and Pakistan about to

859
00:27:24,050 --> 00:27:25,190
blow each other up.

860
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:28,850
Here's a here's GB news about the latest

861
00:27:28,850 --> 00:27:29,350
deal.

862
00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:32,890
Uh, Keir Starmer, the, uh, prime minister of

863
00:27:32,890 --> 00:27:33,910
Britain made with India.

864
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:36,690
Has Keir Starmer just sold Britain to the

865
00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:38,990
Indians without a single shot being fired?

866
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:42,250
The prime minister announced a bumper new trade

867
00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:42,510
deals.

868
00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:42,930
Bumper.

869
00:27:42,930 --> 00:27:45,450
Well, this is a historic day for the

870
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:49,170
United Kingdom and for India, because this is

871
00:27:49,170 --> 00:27:51,670
the biggest trade deal that we the UK

872
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:53,710
have done since we left the EU.

873
00:27:54,510 --> 00:27:57,290
And it's the most ambitious trade deal that

874
00:27:57,290 --> 00:27:58,630
India has ever done.

875
00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:01,930
And this will be measured in billions of

876
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:05,190
pounds into our economy and jobs across the

877
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:06,690
whole of the United Kingdom.

878
00:28:06,910 --> 00:28:09,670
So it is a really important, significant day.

879
00:28:09,970 --> 00:28:12,250
The prime minister said that it's fantastic news

880
00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:15,510
for British business, British workers and British shoppers.

881
00:28:15,630 --> 00:28:17,630
And then the whole thing seemed to unravel.

882
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:21,630
The Indian government released a statement hailing it

883
00:28:21,630 --> 00:28:23,670
as a massive win when it came to

884
00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:25,270
helping Indians move to Britain.

885
00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:27,970
It's emerged that Indian workers who moved to

886
00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:30,610
Britain and British workers going to India will

887
00:28:30,610 --> 00:28:33,590
pay no national insurance for the first three

888
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:34,070
years.

889
00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:37,550
Starmer and Reeves raised national insurance for Brits.

890
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:38,830
Well, what could this mean?

891
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:40,890
A huge influx of Indian workers into Britain.

892
00:28:41,030 --> 00:28:43,530
Employers can pay them less, so fewer jobs

893
00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:46,530
for British workers and lower wages for British

894
00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:46,970
workers.

895
00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:50,370
Labour says this doesn't change the immigration rules.

896
00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:53,170
The Indian government says it does.

897
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:57,870
Indian yogis, musicians and chefs will be able

898
00:28:57,870 --> 00:29:01,390
to apply for UK skilled worker visas.

899
00:29:01,530 --> 00:29:04,170
So if you're Indian, take the yogi jobs

900
00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:05,330
away from the Brits?

901
00:29:05,570 --> 00:29:08,270
No, but the point is, yes, they yes,

902
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:08,750
they will.

903
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:10,330
That was a joke.

904
00:29:10,570 --> 00:29:11,050
Yeah, I know.

905
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:12,010
But it doesn't matter.

906
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:15,810
Probably more tech jobs, finance jobs, because they

907
00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:18,010
literally pay less tax.

908
00:29:18,130 --> 00:29:21,610
He is stimulating Indian immigration, the last thing

909
00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:22,770
the British people want.

910
00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:24,950
You know, the British people, they don't want

911
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:25,850
to be British anymore.

912
00:29:25,970 --> 00:29:28,710
They want nothing but Pakistanis and Indians and

913
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:30,390
Africans running the country.

914
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:32,430
That's why my buddy Michelle is selling the

915
00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:32,730
club.

916
00:29:33,070 --> 00:29:33,890
He's selling the club.

917
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:34,530
He's getting out.

918
00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:35,530
He's selling the club.

919
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:36,190
He's given up.

920
00:29:36,390 --> 00:29:36,670
He's yep.

921
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:37,670
He said, I can't do it.

922
00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:39,110
He says, I'm selling the club.

923
00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:42,090
There's nothing but but I don't I don't

924
00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:44,070
want to repeat exactly what he said.

925
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:45,390
I'm sure it wasn't.

926
00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:47,350
I'm sure it was very racist and mean.

927
00:29:47,630 --> 00:29:48,550
Very racist.

928
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:51,810
Very racist about clientele.

929
00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:54,950
And and, you know, and in general, he

930
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:56,770
says people aren't going out anymore.

931
00:29:56,850 --> 00:29:57,770
They can't afford it.

932
00:29:57,790 --> 00:30:00,030
We have all these rules and regulations selling

933
00:30:00,030 --> 00:30:00,410
the club.

934
00:30:00,470 --> 00:30:02,330
He's moving to permanently to the south of

935
00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:03,290
France, France.

936
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:04,390
Yeah, the south of France.

937
00:30:04,690 --> 00:30:04,910
There you go.

938
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:06,210
Yeah, he's done.

939
00:30:06,450 --> 00:30:06,890
He's done.

940
00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:08,130
I can't do it anymore.

941
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:10,230
And this will only make it worse.

942
00:30:11,150 --> 00:30:14,070
You know, it was interesting because the Netherlands

943
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:16,270
had this when I moved back in ninety

944
00:30:16,270 --> 00:30:18,550
nine and I didn't know this at the

945
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:21,330
time, but I got a 30 percent tax

946
00:30:21,330 --> 00:30:23,350
break in the Netherlands because they were trying

947
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:26,470
to get Americans to move to Holland.

948
00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:30,170
And I paid 30 percent less tax just

949
00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:31,310
because of my passport.

950
00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:37,740
Then the local still pay American taxes because

951
00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:39,320
you know, if you know, we have a

952
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,700
trade deal.

953
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,240
So if you if you pay taxes overseas

954
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280
and there's a deal, a tax deal, then

955
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,440
you don't have to pay that you don't

956
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,440
pay double tax.

957
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,400
So I just I just paid less taxes

958
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,980
because it was a stimulative measure, which I

959
00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:54,380
didn't know anything about at the time.

960
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,640
So this is exactly what they're doing.

961
00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:02,340
And they just load up on the Indians.

962
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Yes, that's about it.

963
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,240
By the way, President Trump did proclaim yesterday

964
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,440
Victory Day for World War or today.

965
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,200
He proclaimed it today.

966
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840
By the virtue and authority vested in him

967
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,100
by the Constitution, the laws of the United

968
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,340
States do hereby proclaim May 8th today, twenty

969
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:25,680
twenty five as a day in celebration of

970
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,480
Victory Day for World War Two.

971
00:31:27,820 --> 00:31:28,580
So he's all in.

972
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Yeah, celebrate.

973
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,500
What's the celebration consist of?

974
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:33,060
Nothing.

975
00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:34,260
Everyone went to Russia.

976
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,820
He couldn't.

977
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:38,240
Everyone said, I'm sorry, I wanted to come

978
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,680
to the White House, but I already told

979
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Vladimir I'd show up at his place.

980
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:42,540
So you understand, don't you?

981
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,720
That's what happens.

982
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,260
Well, all right.

983
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,500
I'll I'll kick us off with a quick

984
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:53,920
overview of India versus Pakistan, because this is

985
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,920
starting to look pretty bad.

986
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:57,920
Now to rising tensions between India and Pakistan,

987
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:02,100
India firing missions, missiles at Pakistan after terrorist

988
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,320
attacks that India claims originated from Pakistani territory.

989
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,160
Our chief for correspondent Ian Pannell has the

990
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:09,480
latest.

991
00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:10,100
Good morning, Ian.

992
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Yeah, good morning, Michael.

993
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:14,800
These two nuclear armed nations exchanging fire overnight

994
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,060
and again this morning.

995
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:18,480
It fears this could spiral out of control.

996
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040
India firing missiles into Pakistan, striking nine targets.

997
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,960
Pakistan saying 26 people have been killed, over

998
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,280
40 others wounded, calling it an act of

999
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,860
war, saying its military has been authorized to

1000
00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:30,340
respond.

1001
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,780
India insisting its attack was measured non escalatory

1002
00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:36,100
and that no military facilities were hit.

1003
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360
Just what it calls terrorist infrastructure.

1004
00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:40,840
India strikes are coming in response to that

1005
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,100
deadly attack on tourists in Indian controlled Kashmir

1006
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,220
last month that left more than two dozen

1007
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:47,020
people dead.

1008
00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:50,660
India blaming Pakistan militants, but Pakistan now saying

1009
00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:53,380
it shot down five India fighter jets overnight

1010
00:32:53,380 --> 00:32:56,060
and hit military targets that no evidence has

1011
00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:56,600
been produced.

1012
00:32:56,740 --> 00:32:57,160
No evidence.

1013
00:32:57,380 --> 00:33:00,820
A highly volatile situation, dangerous for both sides,

1014
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,400
China and the US, both urging restraint.

1015
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Now, if I didn't report this, but if

1016
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
I understood it was Pakistan who attacked in

1017
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,260
the disputed Kashmir region and killed like 20

1018
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:14,440
plus tourists, right?

1019
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,100
Isn't that what kicked all of this off?

1020
00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:19,520
Well, that's my understanding of something like that.

1021
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,360
Now, the reporting is piss poor.

1022
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,580
Is there a beach or something in Kashmir?

1023
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,380
What is the attraction of vacationing in the

1024
00:33:29,380 --> 00:33:30,340
Kashmir region?

1025
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,040
It's got to be the weather.

1026
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,800
I guess I've never considered.

1027
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,200
I've never considered it.

1028
00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:40,180
Okay.

1029
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:40,920
What do you have?

1030
00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,420
I got the, I got two reports, but

1031
00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:43,900
let's play this.

1032
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:45,880
This is the BBC World Service.

1033
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:49,780
This Pakistan India long version.

1034
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:51,880
This is the 20 long by long.

1035
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,700
This is that they get.

1036
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:53,660
Okay.

1037
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,520
The BBC World Service is interesting.

1038
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,180
Let me explain what they, how they do

1039
00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:57,700
their reporting.

1040
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,100
First they do it.

1041
00:33:59,140 --> 00:33:59,740
They'll do it.

1042
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,620
They'll do three versions of the exact same

1043
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:03,120
story.

1044
00:34:04,060 --> 00:34:06,300
The first version, which is usually pretty good.

1045
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,280
It's very concise.

1046
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,800
It's about nine seconds.

1047
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:12,980
There's war in the Kashmir region.

1048
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,080
And then there's, then then there is the

1049
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,100
30 second longer one, which is the one

1050
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,219
I'm going to, I have here.

1051
00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:22,280
And then they go on to like one

1052
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,620
that goes on for six, seven, eight minutes

1053
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:26,820
where they break it down and they yak,

1054
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,460
yak, yak.

1055
00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:28,980
And you don't get anything more.

1056
00:34:29,060 --> 00:34:31,860
The second version, this kind of semi long

1057
00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:34,000
version gives you all the details they're really

1058
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000
going to ever have.

1059
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,920
There it is.

1060
00:34:36,139 --> 00:34:38,620
Pakistan's prime minister has said the country's military

1061
00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:41,679
had made its reply following last night's Indian

1062
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,060
missile strikes on targets in Pakistan and Pakistan

1063
00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:46,199
administered Kashmir.

1064
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaking during an address to the nation, Shabazz

1065
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,199
Sharif referred to Pakistan's earlier claim that it

1066
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,320
had shot down five Indian fighter jets.

1067
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,740
And he said Delhi had misjudged Pakistan's determination

1068
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,960
to fight back.

1069
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,320
India has not confirmed the reports.

1070
00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:05,520
I mean, Pakistan was literally saying for days,

1071
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,980
they're going to strike, they're going to strike,

1072
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,640
they're going to strike.

1073
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:08,380
And they did.

1074
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:11,920
I don't think they underestimated anything.

1075
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:13,760
They knew it was coming.

1076
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,240
It's a mess.

1077
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,360
And if you're an Indian, they had these

1078
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,780
stick fights, you know about this?

1079
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:22,340
They didn't, I haven't got any reports on

1080
00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:24,700
it, but you don't know about the stick

1081
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:25,040
fight?

1082
00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:25,500
No.

1083
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,980
They think it's like they have right at

1084
00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:29,520
the border.

1085
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,100
There's some sort of a border dispute here

1086
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,700
throughout Kashmir.

1087
00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:37,320
And they come out, the one, the Pakistani

1088
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,940
and an Indian, they both come out with

1089
00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:39,520
sticks.

1090
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:41,640
And then they start fighting each other as

1091
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,380
everybody watches.

1092
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:42,800
Really?

1093
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,060
And then the winner of that fight goes

1094
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,520
back and then the next challenger comes out.

1095
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,660
And then they send an F-16.

1096
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,660
And it, well, at some point they drop

1097
00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:54,700
an A-bomb, but it starts with these

1098
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:55,680
stick fights.

1099
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:56,340
Wow.

1100
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,760
That's like, that's so juvenile.

1101
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,560
We used to have stick fights, rock fights.

1102
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,020
I don't know what they're up to.

1103
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,440
I have the NPR report if you can

1104
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:06,720
bear.

1105
00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:07,880
It's not long, luckily.

1106
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:10,160
Yeah, let's hear it.

1107
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,760
That doesn't sound like a stick to me.

1108
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,640
That sounds like a fighter jet taking off.

1109
00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:17,940
Nice, that popped.

1110
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,680
India struck multiple targets across Pakistan in the

1111
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,060
most extensive strikes in more than 50 years.

1112
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,940
It comes after India blamed Pakistan for an

1113
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:28,300
attack that killed 26 people in late April.

1114
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,580
Pakistan denies any connection.

1115
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,800
Its military has retaliated by firing into parts

1116
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960
of Indian-held Kashmir, and it claims it

1117
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,040
has downed five Indian aircraft.

1118
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,760
The Associated Press reports that more than 30

1119
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,100
people were killed in Pakistan.

1120
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680
India says three people were killed on their

1121
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,040
side.

1122
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:46,900
On the line with us is NPR's Dia

1123
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:47,280
Hadid.

1124
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,700
She covers Pakistan and India from her base

1125
00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:50,360
in Mumbai.

1126
00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:52,200
Dia, tell us about these strikes.

1127
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,800
They happened overnight there.

1128
00:36:54,020 --> 00:36:56,640
Well, India's army says it struck militant training

1129
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,040
camps.

1130
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,700
And what they call terror infrastructure.

1131
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,220
And many of those strikes were in Pakistani

1132
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:02,000
-held Kashmir.

1133
00:37:02,580 --> 00:37:05,020
But Pakistan says the strikes mostly hit mosques

1134
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:06,700
and part of a hydropower dam.

1135
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:10,140
One prominent Pakistani militant says one of the

1136
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:13,160
strikes targeted his relatives and killed 14 people,

1137
00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:14,540
including women and children.

1138
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:16,300
And that was in a small town.

1139
00:37:16,660 --> 00:37:17,540
Hold on, stop the clip.

1140
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,260
The way she presents this, she says, but

1141
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:27,960
the strikes only hit mosques and a dam.

1142
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:29,000
Yeah, it doesn't count.

1143
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:30,820
It's just mosques and a dam.

1144
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,920
Yeah, it sounds pretty substantial.

1145
00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:35,480
Well, I think what she's saying is it

1146
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,400
didn't kill people because she goes straight into

1147
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,160
the, it killed the guy's family, wiped out

1148
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,920
the guy's family.

1149
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,720
This is so typical of war reporting.

1150
00:37:43,260 --> 00:37:45,400
You know, what I, what kind of was

1151
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,920
glossed over here was India said, we didn't

1152
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,360
do it.

1153
00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:54,510
It could be false flags going out.

1154
00:37:54,610 --> 00:37:55,890
Pakistan said we didn't do it.

1155
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:56,170
I'm sorry.

1156
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:57,890
Well, the point is, is there could be

1157
00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:59,730
false flags every which way.

1158
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:00,430
Yes, but why?

1159
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:03,230
This whole thing, the stick fighting, the whole

1160
00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:05,650
thing could be just bull crap.

1161
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:09,130
And she's in Mumbai is nowhere near.

1162
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:10,310
He's not walking distance.

1163
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:11,630
That's for sure to Kashmir.

1164
00:38:11,970 --> 00:38:14,110
The whole thing is like, who, you know,

1165
00:38:14,170 --> 00:38:15,950
why should we be reporting from Sacramento?

1166
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:17,670
I mean, it's ludicrous.

1167
00:38:17,830 --> 00:38:20,270
I want a report on the stick fights.

1168
00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:23,210
I mean, I, I'm what a great angle.

1169
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:25,370
It is.

1170
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:26,270
Well, let's finish this.

1171
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:28,410
And many of those strikes were in Pakistani

1172
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:31,570
held Kashmir, but Pakistan says the strikes mostly

1173
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,910
hit mosques and part of a hydropower dam.

1174
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:37,330
One prominent Pakistani militant says one of the

1175
00:38:37,330 --> 00:38:40,370
strikes targeted his relatives and killed 14 people,

1176
00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:41,710
including women and children.

1177
00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:43,670
And that was in a small town in

1178
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:44,290
Southern Pakistan.

1179
00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:47,050
And it's really important to say here where

1180
00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:48,070
these strikes took place.

1181
00:38:48,250 --> 00:38:49,850
Some were deep in Pakistan.

1182
00:38:50,170 --> 00:38:52,590
One was near the country's second largest city.

1183
00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:55,890
Yeah, there's not, I can't find anything on

1184
00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:56,590
the stick fights.

1185
00:38:56,930 --> 00:38:58,650
That's an angle I'm very interested in.

1186
00:38:58,730 --> 00:39:00,870
Here's the second follow up to this about

1187
00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:02,010
what is coming next.

1188
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:04,810
Now, could all this maybe quiet down or

1189
00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:07,350
do folks there expect more military actions?

1190
00:39:08,110 --> 00:39:10,050
I guess the problem here is with strikes

1191
00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:12,250
so deep in Pakistan and with this death

1192
00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:15,410
toll, Pakistan may feel like it must respond

1193
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:17,910
to show people that its army isn't weak.

1194
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:21,910
So analyst Praveen Dante with the International Crisis

1195
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:24,870
Group says other countries have to step in.

1196
00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:28,110
I'm afraid if the international community doesn't step

1197
00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:30,250
in, especially the U.S., then we're only

1198
00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:33,450
seeing the beginning of these escalatory strikes.

1199
00:39:33,730 --> 00:39:36,330
For now, President Trump has said he hopes

1200
00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:38,810
this ends quickly and Secretary of State Marco

1201
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:41,950
Rubio says he's closely monitoring the situation.

1202
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:43,190
Yeah.

1203
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:45,330
All right.

1204
00:39:46,730 --> 00:39:48,730
Rubio, I'm monitoring it.

1205
00:39:49,330 --> 00:39:49,670
OK.

1206
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:54,430
It doesn't really mean anything.

1207
00:39:54,610 --> 00:39:56,730
I mean, and meanwhile, we hear nothing on

1208
00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:57,010
this.

1209
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:59,210
It's total silence now on Ukraine.

1210
00:39:59,470 --> 00:40:00,790
We don't know what's going on there.

1211
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:04,850
You know, even though actually I do have

1212
00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:05,610
Queen Ursula.

1213
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:06,710
We have Russian new attacks.

1214
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:08,710
We can play that's another BBC clip.

1215
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:09,370
All right.

1216
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:10,650
Let's try that one.

1217
00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:14,010
You have two versions of it.

1218
00:40:15,010 --> 00:40:16,990
Yeah, they're both exactly the same time.

1219
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:18,210
I think it's the same clip.

1220
00:40:18,590 --> 00:40:19,510
Let me see.

1221
00:40:19,630 --> 00:40:20,790
Just play new attacks BBC.

1222
00:40:21,110 --> 00:40:21,210
OK.

1223
00:40:21,410 --> 00:40:23,970
The Ukrainian Air Force says Russian aircraft launched

1224
00:40:23,970 --> 00:40:26,350
guided bombs on the Sumy region of northern

1225
00:40:26,350 --> 00:40:30,290
Ukraine shortly after a Kremlin-sponsored unilateral ceasefire

1226
00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:31,690
officially took effect.

1227
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:34,030
The Ukrainian claim hasn't been confirmed.

1228
00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:37,090
Russia says its three-day ceasefire is timed

1229
00:40:37,090 --> 00:40:39,850
to coincide with Second World War commemorations.

1230
00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:42,870
Kyiv rejects the truths but has repeated its

1231
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,230
call for a longer 30-day ceasefire.

1232
00:40:45,730 --> 00:40:48,450
The Ukrainian MP, Lisa Yasko, said that a

1233
00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:50,190
short ceasefire was pointless.

1234
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:52,790
Three days cost nothing to him.

1235
00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:56,370
It costs like, oh, a joke, you know.

1236
00:40:56,630 --> 00:41:00,270
To have a longer ceasefire, depending on what

1237
00:41:00,270 --> 00:41:02,750
is the militaristic and the personal goal for

1238
00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:05,570
Kremlin is, can be possible, but there is

1239
00:41:05,570 --> 00:41:07,490
no single sign that they're going to do

1240
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:08,530
that anytime soon.

1241
00:41:09,170 --> 00:41:10,870
So let me ask you a question, a

1242
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:15,110
historical question, about Russia, Russian gas, or let's

1243
00:41:15,110 --> 00:41:17,870
just call it Russian energy, being sent to

1244
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:18,190
Europe.

1245
00:41:18,370 --> 00:41:23,810
In your recollection, did Russia use that as

1246
00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:26,690
a kludge continuously against Europe, saying, we're going

1247
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:28,010
to shut it off, we're going to shut

1248
00:41:28,010 --> 00:41:29,390
it off, we're going to shut it off?

1249
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:30,250
No, no.

1250
00:41:30,330 --> 00:41:32,790
Do you ever recall, I mean, I remember,

1251
00:41:33,830 --> 00:41:35,170
I think it might've been you.

1252
00:41:35,170 --> 00:41:35,810
I can go back.

1253
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:38,910
My memory starts with, I think this probably

1254
00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:41,050
had a little bit to do with it

1255
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:42,630
when I was working in an oil refinery.

1256
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:46,410
But my memory goes back to the point,

1257
00:41:46,450 --> 00:41:47,790
and I can't give you a year or

1258
00:41:47,790 --> 00:41:51,370
anything, before Russia had any energy sector that

1259
00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:52,370
was worth a crap.

1260
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:55,410
And we kept trying to beg, borrow, and

1261
00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:57,990
steal to get in and help Russia get

1262
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:59,530
their energy sector up.

1263
00:41:59,630 --> 00:42:01,010
Yeah, get it up and out, yeah.

1264
00:42:01,830 --> 00:42:04,750
And because it was assumed that they had

1265
00:42:04,750 --> 00:42:07,930
more, again, this is just off the top

1266
00:42:07,930 --> 00:42:08,310
of my head.

1267
00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:09,870
I don't remember the details.

1268
00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:13,270
But it was assumed that they had more

1269
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:17,750
gross energy total than Saudi Arabia.

1270
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:20,710
That they were just sitting on because they

1271
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:24,690
didn't have American and European, especially American expertise

1272
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:26,750
on how to get it up, pump it

1273
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:29,250
out and ship it all over the place.

1274
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:31,790
And so we kept begging to get in

1275
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:32,470
and begging to get in.

1276
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:34,770
After the fall of communism, at some point

1277
00:42:34,770 --> 00:42:38,130
Gorbachev or somebody let the Chevron and all

1278
00:42:38,130 --> 00:42:40,230
these guys, these hotshots go in there and

1279
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:41,910
teach the Russians how to do it.

1280
00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:44,310
And from then on, they became, they said,

1281
00:42:44,410 --> 00:42:45,850
look at all this free money we're getting

1282
00:42:45,850 --> 00:42:47,430
because they just started pumping like crazy.

1283
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:48,790
They weren't using it as leverage.

1284
00:42:48,970 --> 00:42:50,150
They were using it to make money.

1285
00:42:50,370 --> 00:42:53,370
And they got pretty rich during that period.

1286
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:56,490
I don't know that they've ever threatened to

1287
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:57,150
stop it.

1288
00:42:57,690 --> 00:42:59,890
So if I just look back in our

1289
00:42:59,890 --> 00:43:03,470
archive at clips, the only one that comes

1290
00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:09,510
close, actually, I don't think I can, let

1291
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:12,830
me see, Russia gas, because it would be

1292
00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:13,950
gas, obviously.

1293
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:19,230
I don't think they ever really ever really

1294
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:21,570
used it as, I mean, they were, it

1295
00:43:21,570 --> 00:43:24,930
was like the Germans loved it because they

1296
00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:26,190
were getting gas.

1297
00:43:26,190 --> 00:43:28,630
Yeah, Merkel, and don't forget, Merkel and Putin

1298
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:30,890
both spoke German and both spoke French.

1299
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:33,230
And she always, not French, but Russian.

1300
00:43:33,330 --> 00:43:34,770
She spoke fluent Russian.

1301
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:36,710
And they got along famously.

1302
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:38,650
And they started, the Germans were smart enough

1303
00:43:38,650 --> 00:43:40,430
to get as much of that gas, cheap

1304
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:42,330
gas as they could because it was just

1305
00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:44,210
a straight, it was straight shot.

1306
00:43:45,090 --> 00:43:45,950
Then something happened.

1307
00:43:45,950 --> 00:43:48,670
Well, and what they loved doing was they

1308
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:52,990
loved sending the gas to Germany and Germany

1309
00:43:52,990 --> 00:43:55,610
would send Mercedes Benz's back.

1310
00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:58,870
That was kind of the round robin they

1311
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:59,210
all love.

1312
00:43:59,710 --> 00:44:02,410
So Ursula, Queen Ursula in the European Parliament

1313
00:44:02,410 --> 00:44:04,830
this past week, she's changing history.

1314
00:44:05,330 --> 00:44:07,410
And she's now making it sound like this

1315
00:44:07,410 --> 00:44:11,290
war was because Russia was playing kind of

1316
00:44:11,290 --> 00:44:13,050
smart games with their gas.

1317
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:14,770
And, you know, that was a problem.

1318
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:16,350
She even gives us the years when it

1319
00:44:16,350 --> 00:44:16,810
happened.

1320
00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:19,050
I also know that some are still saying

1321
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:21,650
that we should reopen the tap of Russian

1322
00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:22,350
gas and oil.

1323
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:25,930
This would be a mistake of historic dimensions

1324
00:44:26,450 --> 00:44:28,810
and we would never let it happen.

1325
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:30,510
This has to be very clear too.

1326
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:33,290
Yes, because listen up.

1327
00:44:35,530 --> 00:44:37,470
Russia has proven time and again that it

1328
00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:39,310
is not a reliable supplier.

1329
00:44:39,630 --> 00:44:42,070
Putin has already cut gas flows to Europe

1330
00:44:42,070 --> 00:44:47,990
in 2006, 2009, 2014, 2021 and throughout the

1331
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:48,230
war.

1332
00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:51,370
How many times before they learned the lesson?

1333
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:52,250
Really?

1334
00:44:52,610 --> 00:44:54,910
Dependency on Russia is not only that for

1335
00:44:54,910 --> 00:44:55,550
our security.

1336
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:56,930
Wasn't it?

1337
00:44:56,930 --> 00:44:58,430
We talked about this a lot in the

1338
00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:58,550
show.

1339
00:44:58,570 --> 00:45:00,010
This show's been on for so long.

1340
00:45:00,090 --> 00:45:00,770
We can do this.

1341
00:45:00,850 --> 00:45:01,230
It's great.

1342
00:45:02,430 --> 00:45:04,350
It was they weren't paying their bill.

1343
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:06,650
Yes, Ukraine wasn't paying the bill.

1344
00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:07,370
That's yes.

1345
00:45:07,450 --> 00:45:08,910
That's the only thing I remember.

1346
00:45:09,310 --> 00:45:11,010
Ukraine was and they'd still let it go

1347
00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:11,410
through.

1348
00:45:11,550 --> 00:45:14,230
And the Russians kept saying, hey, you know,

1349
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:15,370
you really got to pay your bill.

1350
00:45:15,370 --> 00:45:16,870
Really got to pay your bill.

1351
00:45:17,130 --> 00:45:19,710
But they kept the gas flowing at all

1352
00:45:19,710 --> 00:45:20,030
times.

1353
00:45:20,110 --> 00:45:21,330
I can remember this.

1354
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:24,750
And now she's saying 2021, 2022.

1355
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:26,750
When did we blow up the Nord Stream

1356
00:45:26,750 --> 00:45:27,170
pipeline?

1357
00:45:27,730 --> 00:45:29,110
When did we do that?

1358
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:30,990
That certainly stopped Russian gas.

1359
00:45:31,610 --> 00:45:32,730
Now, this is a lie.

1360
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:38,550
In 2006, 2009, 2014, 2021 and throughout the

1361
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:38,790
war.

1362
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:40,110
She's a horrible person.

1363
00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:41,910
How many times before they learned the lesson?

1364
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:45,450
Dependency on Russia is not only bad for

1365
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:48,390
our security, but also for our economy.

1366
00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:53,070
Our energy prices cannot be dictated by a

1367
00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:54,230
hostile neighbor.

1368
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:56,470
Well, they're being dictated by you with your

1369
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:58,230
windmills and your solar panels.

1370
00:45:59,350 --> 00:46:00,650
Hitler in drag.

1371
00:46:03,490 --> 00:46:05,570
Hitler was smarter than this.

1372
00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:09,370
He didn't ruin the economy that way.

1373
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:11,050
They ruined it in other ways.

1374
00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:13,090
You know, killed a bunch of the people

1375
00:46:13,090 --> 00:46:13,770
in the economy.

1376
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:17,330
But she's going crazy over there.

1377
00:46:18,190 --> 00:46:24,250
Because, you know, she's taken what President Trump

1378
00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:26,770
is doing with the, really, which I think

1379
00:46:26,770 --> 00:46:29,430
we now deduce is about the endowments and

1380
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:32,470
about not giving money to universities who have

1381
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:36,890
$100 billion sitting around giving them money, whereas

1382
00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:40,490
they're spending almost nothing on making it cheaper

1383
00:46:40,490 --> 00:46:42,210
for kids to get an education.

1384
00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:45,070
The education in what is the next question.

1385
00:46:45,490 --> 00:46:47,830
Instead, you know, all these all these young

1386
00:46:47,830 --> 00:46:49,770
students are all indebted for the rest of

1387
00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:50,230
their life.

1388
00:46:50,330 --> 00:46:52,810
And she turns that around and says, Trump

1389
00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:53,970
hates science.

1390
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:56,430
Making Europe a magnet for researchers.

1391
00:46:56,850 --> 00:46:58,890
This is the ambition of the Choose Europe

1392
00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:01,350
strategy presented by the president of the European

1393
00:47:01,350 --> 00:47:04,210
Commission at the Sorbonne University in Paris.

1394
00:47:04,450 --> 00:47:06,890
Although she did not explicitly refer to the

1395
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:08,990
attacks on academic freedom in the U.S.

1396
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:09,710
Attacks?

1397
00:47:10,210 --> 00:47:10,870
Oh, oh, oh.

1398
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:15,410
It's attacks on academic freedom, which apparently is

1399
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:16,210
in the Constitution.

1400
00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:20,430
Attacks on economic, academic freedom.

1401
00:47:20,610 --> 00:47:21,890
This is, this is rich.

1402
00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:24,130
At the Sorbonne University in Paris.

1403
00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:26,810
Although she did not explicitly refer to the

1404
00:47:26,810 --> 00:47:29,330
attacks on academic freedom in the U.S.,

1405
00:47:29,330 --> 00:47:31,990
Ursula von der Leyen announced that she wanted

1406
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:35,010
to enshrine the freedom of scientific research in

1407
00:47:35,010 --> 00:47:36,050
a new European act.

1408
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:37,830
The freedom of research.

1409
00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:40,710
What a farce.

1410
00:47:40,830 --> 00:47:41,330
This is great.

1411
00:47:41,450 --> 00:47:42,690
Listen to what she has to say here.

1412
00:47:43,590 --> 00:47:46,670
Is to ensure that science in Europe remains

1413
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:48,510
open and free.

1414
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:51,410
This is our calling card.

1415
00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:55,130
We must do everything we can to uphold

1416
00:47:55,130 --> 00:47:55,390
it.

1417
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:57,790
Now, more than ever before.

1418
00:47:58,630 --> 00:48:00,790
We want to strengthen the free movement of

1419
00:48:00,790 --> 00:48:04,190
knowledge and data across Europe, just as we

1420
00:48:04,190 --> 00:48:07,510
do for goods, talents and capital across our

1421
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:08,410
single market.

1422
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:10,970
The European Commission puts on the table a

1423
00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:12,670
500 million euro package.

1424
00:48:13,110 --> 00:48:15,010
The long term objective is to spend 3

1425
00:48:15,010 --> 00:48:17,950
% of EU GDP on research and development

1426
00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:19,730
investment by 2030.

1427
00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:23,070
However, researchers believe that there are other elements

1428
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:23,770
to be considered.

1429
00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:26,950
Anybody who comes in, they come into one

1430
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:28,950
country, they should also then be able to

1431
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:31,930
move to any other country with their pensions.

1432
00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:32,410
Oh yeah.

1433
00:48:32,590 --> 00:48:33,490
All their entitlements.

1434
00:48:33,570 --> 00:48:33,950
Oh yeah.

1435
00:48:34,210 --> 00:48:35,170
So those are things.

1436
00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:37,790
Mobility, infrastructure and funding.

1437
00:48:38,050 --> 00:48:40,110
Finally, the commission wants to cut red tape

1438
00:48:40,110 --> 00:48:42,810
to support research and innovation, even though clear

1439
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:44,730
lows can be an asset, according to this

1440
00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:45,170
researcher.

1441
00:48:45,350 --> 00:48:47,550
We have that regulatory certainty that is missing

1442
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:49,690
in a lot of other places and especially

1443
00:48:49,690 --> 00:48:51,150
in the US.

1444
00:48:51,290 --> 00:48:52,950
And I think this can give, not only

1445
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:55,490
should give more confidence to consumers, but may

1446
00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:57,590
also give more confidence to researchers and to

1447
00:48:57,590 --> 00:48:58,590
business people.

1448
00:49:00,410 --> 00:49:01,750
I'm glad you caught that.

1449
00:49:01,850 --> 00:49:02,890
That was my question too.

1450
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:05,250
It's like this is good for consumers, to

1451
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:07,310
have your tax money be spent on a

1452
00:49:07,310 --> 00:49:09,690
bunch of people testing stuff on mice.

1453
00:49:09,970 --> 00:49:12,330
I'm not against scientific research, but let's be

1454
00:49:12,330 --> 00:49:13,570
a little realistic here.

1455
00:49:13,690 --> 00:49:15,870
We have that regulatory certainty that is missing

1456
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:17,990
in a lot of other places and especially

1457
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:19,350
in the US.

1458
00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:21,230
And I think this can give, not only

1459
00:49:21,230 --> 00:49:23,770
should give more confidence to consumers, but may

1460
00:49:23,770 --> 00:49:25,870
also give more confidence to researchers and to

1461
00:49:25,870 --> 00:49:30,370
business people that they know the limits and

1462
00:49:30,370 --> 00:49:32,810
the opportunities that they have given.

1463
00:49:32,850 --> 00:49:33,670
He's just babbling.

1464
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:38,410
It's a bunch of intellectuals looking for a

1465
00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:38,930
free ride.

1466
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:39,810
There's money.

1467
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:42,670
For his part, Emmanuel Macron announced that the

1468
00:49:42,670 --> 00:49:45,170
French state would invest an additional 100 million

1469
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:47,470
euros in R&D by 2030.

1470
00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:49,870
The French president was more direct in his

1471
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:53,070
condemnation, not hesitating to call the abolition of

1472
00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:55,730
research programs in the United States a mistake

1473
00:49:55,730 --> 00:49:58,210
on the pretext that they use the term

1474
00:49:58,210 --> 00:49:58,950
diversity.

1475
00:49:59,830 --> 00:50:00,310
Oh, OK.

1476
00:50:00,590 --> 00:50:03,450
So Trump, very bad, because you look different.

1477
00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:04,570
He doesn't want to fund you.

1478
00:50:04,670 --> 00:50:05,490
That's the message.

1479
00:50:05,610 --> 00:50:06,330
OK, Macron.

1480
00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:08,390
Have you seen your wife?

1481
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:11,990
Not to be mean about it.

1482
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:13,550
You're mean.

1483
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:14,470
I'm very mean.

1484
00:50:15,110 --> 00:50:17,850
And then Mr. Peepers, whoa, this was a

1485
00:50:17,850 --> 00:50:19,150
very European move.

1486
00:50:20,130 --> 00:50:25,370
Mr. Peepers was not elected Bundeskanzler by his

1487
00:50:25,370 --> 00:50:28,850
own coalition and they did the typical European

1488
00:50:28,850 --> 00:50:29,430
thing.

1489
00:50:30,650 --> 00:50:32,950
You need to vote over because you voted

1490
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:33,450
wrong.

1491
00:50:33,450 --> 00:50:36,570
Conservative leader Friedrich Merz has been elected the

1492
00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:39,010
new German chancellor in the second round of

1493
00:50:39,010 --> 00:50:40,350
voting in the Bundestag.

1494
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:43,370
His previous failure to win support in the

1495
00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:46,310
German parliament was the first in the country's

1496
00:50:46,310 --> 00:50:47,490
post-war history.

1497
00:50:47,970 --> 00:50:51,170
Merz needed a majority of 316 out of

1498
00:50:51,170 --> 00:50:56,610
630 votes, well short of the 328 seats

1499
00:50:56,610 --> 00:50:57,990
held by his coalition.

1500
00:50:58,230 --> 00:51:00,750
That coalition is led by Merz's center-right

1501
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:04,210
Christian Democratic Union and its Bavarian sister party,

1502
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:05,810
the Christian Social Union.

1503
00:51:06,010 --> 00:51:08,930
They were joined by former Chancellor Olaf Scholz's

1504
00:51:08,930 --> 00:51:11,130
center-left Social Democrats.

1505
00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:13,850
Because the first round was a secret ballot,

1506
00:51:14,330 --> 00:51:16,810
it was not immediately clear and might never

1507
00:51:16,810 --> 00:51:19,690
be known who had defected from Merz's camp.

1508
00:51:19,890 --> 00:51:22,970
The far-right alternative for Germany has demanded

1509
00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:26,150
Merz step aside and called for fresh elections

1510
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:28,310
following his historic defeat.

1511
00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:32,170
What are the chances someone went around at

1512
00:51:32,170 --> 00:51:33,430
night and said, hey, look at this picture.

1513
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:36,530
But I think you voted wrong.

1514
00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:37,550
I think you voted wrong.

1515
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:40,050
And was only the first round secret and

1516
00:51:40,050 --> 00:51:41,190
the second one wasn't?

1517
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:42,290
Was that what they did?

1518
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:43,730
That's what they kind of hinted.

1519
00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:44,690
Yeah, yeah.

1520
00:51:44,810 --> 00:51:46,410
Oh, oh, well, now that it's not a

1521
00:51:46,410 --> 00:51:49,310
secret ballot, I better get in line with

1522
00:51:49,310 --> 00:51:49,790
the party.

1523
00:51:52,090 --> 00:51:53,270
Europe is sick.

1524
00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:57,330
I feel very bad for all my European

1525
00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:57,990
friends.

1526
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:58,690
It's sick.

1527
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:59,450
It's just sick.

1528
00:52:00,130 --> 00:52:02,370
Well, they brought it on themselves.

1529
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:03,370
I know.

1530
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:05,710
Well, yes, because they don't stand up and

1531
00:52:05,710 --> 00:52:07,190
say, hey, enough with this.

1532
00:52:07,790 --> 00:52:08,110
Enough.

1533
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:09,350
No, they don't.

1534
00:52:11,090 --> 00:52:12,490
Oh, boy.

1535
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:16,050
No, it saddens me, I have to say.

1536
00:52:17,590 --> 00:52:19,530
OK, well, what else we got?

1537
00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:21,010
I got a lot of Pope clips where

1538
00:52:21,010 --> 00:52:24,730
they would do me no good.

1539
00:52:25,150 --> 00:52:28,430
You were Pope heavy and you got knocked

1540
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:29,270
out of the ring.

1541
00:52:29,810 --> 00:52:30,710
I did.

1542
00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:33,230
Yeah, I saw you with all the Pope

1543
00:52:33,230 --> 00:52:33,550
clips.

1544
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:35,910
I'm like, well, I got one Pope clip.

1545
00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:37,710
Like I wasn't even going to do any

1546
00:52:37,710 --> 00:52:38,410
Pope stuff.

1547
00:52:39,290 --> 00:52:41,150
Yeah, I got screwed on that deal.

1548
00:52:41,230 --> 00:52:41,790
Yeah, you did.

1549
00:52:41,950 --> 00:52:42,190
You did.

1550
00:52:42,350 --> 00:52:44,910
What's interesting is that we both appear to

1551
00:52:44,910 --> 00:52:48,950
have clipped the CBS morning show about this

1552
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:56,250
absolute, unbelievable advertisement for the shingles vaccine.

1553
00:52:56,890 --> 00:52:57,370
Yes.

1554
00:52:57,370 --> 00:52:59,750
And in fact, we'll use your clips.

1555
00:52:59,890 --> 00:53:02,750
But I had a I had a I

1556
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:04,210
was going to lead into is probably the

1557
00:53:04,210 --> 00:53:04,910
same ones.

1558
00:53:05,390 --> 00:53:06,970
I don't know how much they paid for

1559
00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:08,230
this, but it was I think it was

1560
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:09,530
about a four minute spot.

1561
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:12,250
Well, here here's the here's what aired right

1562
00:53:12,250 --> 00:53:13,030
before it.

1563
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:16,650
Shingles is a condition caused by the varicella

1564
00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:17,650
zoster virus.

1565
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:20,010
Most people over the age of 50 have

1566
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:21,150
the virus in their body.

1567
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:23,370
That's why the Centers for Disease Control and

1568
00:53:23,370 --> 00:53:25,630
Prevention recommends that everyone over the age of

1569
00:53:25,630 --> 00:53:27,530
50 get the two dose shingles vaccine.

1570
00:53:27,850 --> 00:53:29,790
So that aired before this segment.

1571
00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:30,630
It was no.

1572
00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:32,370
Yes, it was unbelievable.

1573
00:53:34,110 --> 00:53:34,510
Unbelievable.

1574
00:53:35,090 --> 00:53:36,690
I have four clips as well.

1575
00:53:36,930 --> 00:53:38,430
They ran an actual ad.

1576
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:38,910
Yes.

1577
00:53:39,070 --> 00:53:41,190
Then they ran the segment to back up

1578
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:41,650
the ad.

1579
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:43,310
Did you not hear Gayle at one point

1580
00:53:43,310 --> 00:53:44,970
say I've been seeing the ads?

1581
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:46,230
Yes.

1582
00:53:46,350 --> 00:53:48,250
No, she said that in the clips I

1583
00:53:48,250 --> 00:53:48,450
have.

1584
00:53:48,570 --> 00:53:49,110
Let's play it.

1585
00:53:49,150 --> 00:53:49,430
Let's play.

1586
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:50,750
We'll kick it off with it with yours.

1587
00:53:50,830 --> 00:53:51,270
Number one.

1588
00:53:51,350 --> 00:53:52,710
All right, let's begin this hour with some

1589
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:55,390
groundbreaking new research groundbreaking on the shingles vaccine.

1590
00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:57,570
South Korean study found the vaccine can lower

1591
00:53:57,570 --> 00:54:00,210
the risk of heart disease by 23%

1592
00:54:00,210 --> 00:54:01,850
for up to eight years.

1593
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:03,790
The vaccine in that study was used in

1594
00:54:03,790 --> 00:54:05,070
the U.S. until 2018.

1595
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:07,870
And other research shows promising results for the

1596
00:54:07,870 --> 00:54:09,890
new version, which is used now.

1597
00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:12,690
CBS News medical contributor, Dr. Celine Gounder, editor

1598
00:54:12,690 --> 00:54:14,770
at large for public health at KFF Health

1599
00:54:14,770 --> 00:54:17,270
News, joins us now to discuss the disease.

1600
00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:17,630
Good morning.

1601
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:18,130
Good morning.

1602
00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:18,550
Hello.

1603
00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:18,970
Good morning.

1604
00:54:19,010 --> 00:54:20,130
Break the study down for us.

1605
00:54:20,290 --> 00:54:20,930
What did it find?

1606
00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:23,510
So they looked at over 2 million adults

1607
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:25,250
in South Korea over a period of about

1608
00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:27,470
10 years, and they found that people who

1609
00:54:27,470 --> 00:54:29,390
got the older shingles vaccine, what we call

1610
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:32,890
Zostavax, it's a live virus vaccine, an older

1611
00:54:32,890 --> 00:54:33,470
technology.

1612
00:54:34,090 --> 00:54:35,090
Older technology.

1613
00:54:35,610 --> 00:54:37,190
Called a vaccine.

1614
00:54:37,790 --> 00:54:40,130
This was always confusing to me.

1615
00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:42,910
If they're touting the benefits of this older

1616
00:54:42,910 --> 00:54:43,730
technology.

1617
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:46,710
That hasn't been in play for seven years.

1618
00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:50,150
But somehow they folded into this new, this

1619
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:53,290
ad, this blatant ad, which came after the

1620
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:53,390
ad.

1621
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:56,290
Pathetic presentation I've ever recorded.

1622
00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:59,130
Live virus vaccine, older technology.

1623
00:54:59,670 --> 00:55:02,470
In that population, we saw a 23%

1624
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:06,190
reduction in their risk of cardiovascular events, which

1625
00:55:06,190 --> 00:55:07,090
is pretty significant.

1626
00:55:07,550 --> 00:55:07,850
Wow.

1627
00:55:08,130 --> 00:55:08,610
Wow.

1628
00:55:09,110 --> 00:55:09,470
Wow.

1629
00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:11,730
Which, as you say, was used in 2018.

1630
00:55:12,370 --> 00:55:15,210
The newer vaccine does not contain a live

1631
00:55:15,210 --> 00:55:17,330
virus, but you're saying it also, you're saying

1632
00:55:17,330 --> 00:55:19,150
the new research is suggesting it might even

1633
00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:20,090
be better than the old one.

1634
00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:21,790
What we're seeing is newer vaccines.

1635
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:25,010
That one's called Shingrix, made of a purified

1636
00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:29,630
synthetic protein, viral protein.

1637
00:55:29,790 --> 00:55:30,750
So it's much more pure.

1638
00:55:31,310 --> 00:55:33,410
You get two doses of that one starting

1639
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:34,070
at age 50.

1640
00:55:34,490 --> 00:55:36,830
With that one, we are seeing even better

1641
00:55:36,830 --> 00:55:37,710
vaccine effectiveness.

1642
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:41,450
And we're seeing preliminary data showing that it

1643
00:55:41,450 --> 00:55:43,870
too has cardiovascular protective effects.

1644
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:45,050
So I'm going to tell you what my

1645
00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:46,030
thinking was right away.

1646
00:55:46,090 --> 00:55:47,870
After this opening of the segment, I thought,

1647
00:55:47,950 --> 00:55:51,810
first of all, paid, obvious, bring in Celine

1648
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:52,730
Gounder.

1649
00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:53,710
She's been read in.

1650
00:55:53,770 --> 00:55:54,610
She's got her script.

1651
00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:55,890
They just played the ad.

1652
00:55:56,090 --> 00:55:58,430
No, there's a number of moments where it's

1653
00:55:58,430 --> 00:56:00,010
obviously scripted.

1654
00:56:00,110 --> 00:56:02,410
But it's just not natural.

1655
00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:05,050
It also felt to me like this research

1656
00:56:05,050 --> 00:56:07,230
was dug up, but attached to the new

1657
00:56:07,230 --> 00:56:10,710
and improved technology so that it can be

1658
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:16,990
put on Medicaid because it lowers your heart

1659
00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:17,490
risk.

1660
00:56:18,490 --> 00:56:19,590
Well, it's going to be put on Medicaid

1661
00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:20,170
anyway.

1662
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:22,530
You can get a shingles vaccine if you're

1663
00:56:22,530 --> 00:56:22,970
on Medicaid.

1664
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:24,250
Oh, it's already there.

1665
00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:24,550
Okay.

1666
00:56:24,650 --> 00:56:24,830
Yeah.

1667
00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:26,630
These vaccines are most of them.

1668
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:27,130
Okay.

1669
00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:29,130
It's not like, you know, I know some,

1670
00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:31,950
a couple of friends of mine, liberals, they

1671
00:56:31,950 --> 00:56:33,250
get it, whatever they're told to do.

1672
00:56:34,070 --> 00:56:34,790
Libjoes, Libjoes.

1673
00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:38,010
And they were up in the hills and

1674
00:56:38,010 --> 00:56:39,510
they got the shingles shot.

1675
00:56:39,690 --> 00:56:40,730
And then they got shingles.

1676
00:56:42,650 --> 00:56:43,530
One of them did.

1677
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:45,430
Almost immediately.

1678
00:56:47,210 --> 00:56:48,250
And it was a pain.

1679
00:56:48,290 --> 00:56:50,010
It wasn't like, oh, well, you know, at

1680
00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:51,190
least it wasn't as bad.

1681
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:52,810
It was painful, painful.

1682
00:56:53,090 --> 00:56:54,170
It was a miserable.

1683
00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:56,570
She never had a problem before.

1684
00:56:57,150 --> 00:56:59,830
Got the shot and then had a worst

1685
00:56:59,830 --> 00:57:03,670
case scenario type of horribly painful shingles right

1686
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:04,350
after the shot.

1687
00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:05,570
But was it the coincidence?

1688
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:06,770
I don't know.

1689
00:57:06,830 --> 00:57:08,190
But was it the new technology?

1690
00:57:08,670 --> 00:57:09,490
Yeah, of course it was.

1691
00:57:09,490 --> 00:57:11,110
Because this other one's not been around for

1692
00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:12,170
seven years.

1693
00:57:12,330 --> 00:57:12,850
Oh, goodness.

1694
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:13,410
All right.

1695
00:57:14,070 --> 00:57:16,090
Clip to technology.

1696
00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:17,510
It's new technology.

1697
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:19,470
Does that mean it's like MRNA?

1698
00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:20,230
Do we know?

1699
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:22,350
Well, they do explain it.

1700
00:57:22,510 --> 00:57:24,290
I don't think it's MRNA, but they do

1701
00:57:24,290 --> 00:57:27,210
use a fake version of the looks like

1702
00:57:27,210 --> 00:57:29,830
it's she's explained in that first clip.

1703
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:31,830
It's not it's not live virus.

1704
00:57:32,010 --> 00:57:34,590
It's a some creation.

1705
00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:35,530
It's like a like.

1706
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:38,070
Kind of like I don't know what what

1707
00:57:38,070 --> 00:57:39,030
how they do it.

1708
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:40,850
OK, but it doesn't sound like MRNA.

1709
00:57:40,930 --> 00:57:42,850
OK, so I got my shingles vaccine.

1710
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:44,410
I saw a commercial on TV and thought

1711
00:57:44,410 --> 00:57:45,170
I better get one.

1712
00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:46,710
Yeah, that's what I did.

1713
00:57:48,070 --> 00:57:49,510
Yeah, I better get one of those.

1714
00:57:49,590 --> 00:57:51,050
So what does it mean for people who

1715
00:57:51,050 --> 00:57:52,050
receive the vaccine before?

1716
00:57:52,110 --> 00:57:53,950
This, by the way, is a bunch of

1717
00:57:53,950 --> 00:57:54,210
people.

1718
00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:55,710
It's an inside joke.

1719
00:57:55,930 --> 00:57:57,290
This clip to OK.

1720
00:57:57,390 --> 00:57:59,010
This is an inside joke.

1721
00:57:59,290 --> 00:58:00,350
I saw the commercial.

1722
00:58:00,490 --> 00:58:01,670
I thought I better get it right.

1723
00:58:02,190 --> 00:58:02,950
Oh, yes.

1724
00:58:04,130 --> 00:58:04,930
Oh, absolutely.

1725
00:58:05,250 --> 00:58:05,850
This is your.

1726
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:09,590
Yeah, they're laughing about the fact that this

1727
00:58:09,590 --> 00:58:10,970
is a bought and paid for segment.

1728
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:12,390
He thought I better get one.

1729
00:58:12,430 --> 00:58:13,510
Yeah, that's what I did.

1730
00:58:13,610 --> 00:58:14,810
I saw the commercial.

1731
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:18,530
What does it mean for people who receive

1732
00:58:18,530 --> 00:58:19,790
the vaccine before 2018?

1733
00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:22,790
Well, the study we're talking about today is

1734
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:24,730
actually with that older vaccine.

1735
00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:26,790
But I think big picture, we need to

1736
00:58:26,790 --> 00:58:29,930
be rethinking the connection between infections and chronic

1737
00:58:29,930 --> 00:58:30,410
disease.

1738
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:33,710
We've had this sort of artificial line between

1739
00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:34,090
the two.

1740
00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:35,590
And what we're seeing based on this data

1741
00:58:35,590 --> 00:58:38,830
is that because of the chronic inflammation you

1742
00:58:38,830 --> 00:58:41,930
can have from an infection like chickenpox, chickenpox

1743
00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:43,710
is the kind of herpes virus.

1744
00:58:43,830 --> 00:58:44,930
And as you may know, once you have

1745
00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:46,310
a herpes virus, you have it forever.

1746
00:58:46,310 --> 00:58:46,530
Yeah.

1747
00:58:47,730 --> 00:58:48,950
Oh, man.

1748
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:51,430
That's kind of conflating things, isn't it?

1749
00:58:51,550 --> 00:58:54,570
Well, the thing besides conflating things, like you

1750
00:58:54,570 --> 00:58:58,070
suggest, they bring up this little factoid that

1751
00:58:58,070 --> 00:58:59,890
once you get a herpes virus, you have

1752
00:58:59,890 --> 00:59:00,450
it forever.

1753
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:03,130
So what good does the shot do?

1754
00:59:04,250 --> 00:59:05,090
You have it forever.

1755
00:59:05,490 --> 00:59:07,350
So the new shot do?

1756
00:59:07,770 --> 00:59:08,950
Well, I'm going to tell you, the new

1757
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:15,570
technology is a combination, a recombinant of antigen

1758
00:59:15,570 --> 00:59:20,350
and adjuvant system that stimulates the immune system

1759
00:59:20,350 --> 00:59:23,190
to generate a strong and sustained immune response.

1760
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:24,750
So they got Hamburger Helper in there.

1761
00:59:25,850 --> 00:59:26,470
And who knows?

1762
00:59:26,590 --> 00:59:27,290
Doesn't surprise me.

1763
00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:27,570
Yeah.

1764
00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:29,530
And who knows what that does?

1765
00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:32,810
But the point, the overall point which she

1766
00:59:32,810 --> 00:59:36,770
made is that once you have this virus,

1767
00:59:37,550 --> 00:59:40,410
the herpes, any of the herpes zoster, whatever

1768
00:59:40,410 --> 00:59:42,870
they are, viruses, you can't get rid of

1769
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:43,010
them.

1770
00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:44,990
So what does the vaccine do actually?

1771
00:59:44,990 --> 00:59:46,470
I mean, what does it actually do?

1772
00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:47,430
It doesn't do anything.

1773
00:59:47,570 --> 00:59:49,870
It makes CBS and the people hosting the

1774
00:59:49,870 --> 00:59:50,570
show richer.

1775
00:59:51,930 --> 00:59:54,850
And in this, and in that so-called

1776
00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:56,990
study, which they never mentioned what it was

1777
00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:59,950
or even cite it, they say that it

1778
00:59:59,950 --> 01:00:03,410
kept the 23% less chance of having

1779
01:00:03,410 --> 01:00:08,070
a heart episode and that effect lasts eight

1780
01:00:08,070 --> 01:00:08,670
years.

1781
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:12,590
So eight year was okay.

1782
01:00:12,670 --> 01:00:14,310
Well, after eight years, what happens?

1783
01:00:14,310 --> 01:00:15,590
You're older and you're going to have more

1784
01:00:15,590 --> 01:00:16,870
chance of whatever it was.

1785
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:19,450
And then the other issue is with this

1786
01:00:19,450 --> 01:00:23,570
new vaccine, Shingrix, to give it a plug,

1787
01:00:25,770 --> 01:00:28,450
you have to have two shots again.

1788
01:00:28,650 --> 01:00:30,130
One of those two shot deals.

1789
01:00:30,510 --> 01:00:31,350
It's your booster.

1790
01:00:32,370 --> 01:00:33,910
This is the whole thing is sick.

1791
01:00:34,570 --> 01:00:36,390
And if your immune system gets weak, you're

1792
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:39,450
getting older, you're stressed, it can come out

1793
01:00:39,450 --> 01:00:39,690
again.

1794
01:00:39,950 --> 01:00:42,510
And so it's causing inflammation over time in

1795
01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:42,990
your body.

1796
01:00:42,990 --> 01:00:45,030
When you have a shingles outbreak, in particular,

1797
01:00:45,130 --> 01:00:47,110
you're having a lot of inflammation that can

1798
01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:49,810
cause inflammation of your blood vessels, blood clotting,

1799
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:51,230
all of which could lead to a heart

1800
01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:52,890
attack, dementia, these other problems.

1801
01:00:53,110 --> 01:00:55,230
And so understanding that these things can be

1802
01:00:55,230 --> 01:00:57,810
connected, infectious disease, chronic disease, I think is

1803
01:00:57,810 --> 01:00:58,790
an important message here.

1804
01:00:59,070 --> 01:00:59,930
Yeah, you mentioned dementia.

1805
01:01:00,050 --> 01:01:02,270
Another study showed that the same type of

1806
01:01:02,270 --> 01:01:05,070
shingles vaccine could reduce the risk of dementia.

1807
01:01:05,210 --> 01:01:06,630
Could this change the way that we think

1808
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:07,330
about vaccines?

1809
01:01:07,790 --> 01:01:08,530
I think it should.

1810
01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:09,070
Wow.

1811
01:01:09,470 --> 01:01:11,550
Hey, and here's the question you ask.

1812
01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:15,710
Is that the most scripted sounding question you

1813
01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:16,370
can imagine?

1814
01:01:16,530 --> 01:01:16,710
Yes.

1815
01:01:16,750 --> 01:01:18,690
Does this change the way we think about

1816
01:01:18,690 --> 01:01:19,330
vaccines?

1817
01:01:19,830 --> 01:01:22,150
I mean, because it's not just against shingles.

1818
01:01:22,310 --> 01:01:24,910
It can save your life from all kinds

1819
01:01:24,910 --> 01:01:25,810
of horrible things.

1820
01:01:25,970 --> 01:01:26,850
Yeah, you mentioned dementia.

1821
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:29,170
Another study showed that the same type of

1822
01:01:29,170 --> 01:01:31,970
shingles vaccine could reduce the risk of dementia.

1823
01:01:32,110 --> 01:01:33,530
Could this change the way that we think

1824
01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:34,250
about vaccines?

1825
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:35,590
I think it should.

1826
01:01:35,790 --> 01:01:37,930
So again, you know, we're trying to prevent

1827
01:01:37,930 --> 01:01:40,430
some of the risk factors that lead to

1828
01:01:40,430 --> 01:01:40,930
chronic disease.

1829
01:01:40,930 --> 01:01:43,330
Disease which includes chronic inflammation.

1830
01:01:44,170 --> 01:01:47,310
Other such infections, chronic infections, hepatitis C, for

1831
01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:50,250
example, has been known or HPV, human papillomavirus.

1832
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:52,590
These have been known to cause cancer again

1833
01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:53,990
through the chronic inflammation.

1834
01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:57,650
So it's again a false dichotomy between infectious

1835
01:01:57,650 --> 01:01:59,910
disease, chronic disease, and vaccines may be a

1836
01:01:59,910 --> 01:02:02,510
way of preventing certain chronic disease.

1837
01:02:02,530 --> 01:02:03,730
So bottom line, who should get it?

1838
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:06,730
Man, we clipped it exactly the same too.

1839
01:02:08,050 --> 01:02:10,090
I mean, like to the right down to

1840
01:02:10,090 --> 01:02:11,950
that and I cut it off and I

1841
01:02:11,950 --> 01:02:13,390
had the same kicker at the end that

1842
01:02:13,390 --> 01:02:13,830
you have.

1843
01:02:14,530 --> 01:02:15,270
That's crazy.

1844
01:02:15,650 --> 01:02:16,470
We both caught it.

1845
01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:17,310
We both caught it.

1846
01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:19,070
It's like this is an ad of epic

1847
01:02:19,070 --> 01:02:21,470
proportion and I have the ad, the actual

1848
01:02:21,470 --> 01:02:22,110
ad.

1849
01:02:22,990 --> 01:02:25,970
Yeah, that's the kick, that's the real kicker.

1850
01:02:26,210 --> 01:02:30,730
I mean, this like in publishing, generally speaking,

1851
01:02:30,970 --> 01:02:32,630
they make a fuss.

1852
01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:35,970
Editors will make a fuss if you write

1853
01:02:35,970 --> 01:02:37,710
anything that's like, you know, looks like it's

1854
01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:38,430
an ad.

1855
01:02:38,430 --> 01:02:40,910
And they really get bent out of shape.

1856
01:02:41,070 --> 01:02:42,330
If you're like, for example, I used to

1857
01:02:42,330 --> 01:02:44,470
write, you know, kind of generalized columns.

1858
01:02:44,570 --> 01:02:46,130
So I would talk about product like we

1859
01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:46,670
do on the show.

1860
01:02:47,690 --> 01:02:49,150
And if somehow...

1861
01:02:50,790 --> 01:02:53,770
If it sounded addy, you'd get a call.

1862
01:02:54,250 --> 01:02:56,370
No, no, no, that wasn't the real complaint.

1863
01:02:57,130 --> 01:03:00,410
They could sound addy, but if the other

1864
01:03:00,410 --> 01:03:03,230
side of the fence, if the other side

1865
01:03:03,230 --> 01:03:04,790
of the fence got wind of what was

1866
01:03:04,790 --> 01:03:07,950
being written, if they could, they never did.

1867
01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:10,470
You mean the ad sales being the other

1868
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:10,650
side of the fence?

1869
01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:12,930
The ad sales guy finds out, they'll sell

1870
01:03:12,930 --> 01:03:14,710
an ad right next to it.

1871
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:16,010
If they can.

1872
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:17,250
Of course they will.

1873
01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:19,750
Of course, because there's not dumb.

1874
01:03:19,870 --> 01:03:21,450
And that's what they'll say at CBS.

1875
01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:23,530
Well, we knew this segment was coming up.

1876
01:03:23,570 --> 01:03:25,090
So we called the company and said, you

1877
01:03:25,090 --> 01:03:27,750
know, we're talking generally about vaccines.

1878
01:03:28,090 --> 01:03:29,390
No, that's not, no.

1879
01:03:29,530 --> 01:03:30,910
It was the other way around.

1880
01:03:31,530 --> 01:03:34,450
The company, because that's what we're listening to

1881
01:03:34,450 --> 01:03:35,650
is the ad.

1882
01:03:35,650 --> 01:03:39,930
And they just decided to, you know, just

1883
01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:40,850
make it worse.

1884
01:03:42,010 --> 01:03:43,950
I mean, they should have not run that

1885
01:03:43,950 --> 01:03:44,330
ad.

1886
01:03:44,410 --> 01:03:45,610
They should have just let this be the

1887
01:03:45,610 --> 01:03:45,830
ad.

1888
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:47,810
But no, they had to, they couldn't, these

1889
01:03:47,810 --> 01:03:50,210
guys obviously, this is a big spend.

1890
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:51,390
This is a lot of money.

1891
01:03:51,610 --> 01:03:52,250
They can't help themselves.

1892
01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:54,310
No, they can't help themselves.

1893
01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:55,830
And this is the same thing with, like

1894
01:03:55,830 --> 01:03:57,990
I was saying with the editorial, where if

1895
01:03:57,990 --> 01:04:00,090
you can't help yourself, you're going to put

1896
01:04:00,090 --> 01:04:01,270
the ad right there.

1897
01:04:02,610 --> 01:04:03,330
It's corrupt.

1898
01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:07,030
For the Shingrix, the newer vaccine in the

1899
01:04:07,030 --> 01:04:09,610
United States, once you hit age 50, you

1900
01:04:09,610 --> 01:04:10,450
should be getting two doses.

1901
01:04:10,490 --> 01:04:14,210
By the way, Shingrix is not like a

1902
01:04:14,210 --> 01:04:15,090
general name.

1903
01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:16,290
It's the product name.

1904
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:17,810
It is the brand name.

1905
01:04:17,850 --> 01:04:19,110
Yes, it's the brand name.

1906
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:20,930
She's not promoting the technology.

1907
01:04:21,170 --> 01:04:22,610
She's promoting the brand name.

1908
01:04:22,770 --> 01:04:25,830
For the Shingrix, the newer vaccine in the

1909
01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:28,390
United States, once you hit age 50, you

1910
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:29,750
should be getting two doses of that.

1911
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:32,170
And then if you're younger and immunocompromised, you

1912
01:04:32,170 --> 01:04:33,630
should also be getting two doses.

1913
01:04:33,970 --> 01:04:35,430
Okay, so all you guys- I cut

1914
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:36,530
it off there before.

1915
01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:38,450
Now, you left in all the laughing with

1916
01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:40,130
the gay guy whose mom is mad.

1917
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:40,750
Is it this table?

1918
01:04:40,810 --> 01:04:41,450
You have some time.

1919
01:04:41,690 --> 01:04:42,190
Not me.

1920
01:04:42,490 --> 01:04:43,390
I'm behind the times.

1921
01:04:43,690 --> 01:04:45,190
You have a little time.

1922
01:04:45,530 --> 01:04:46,690
I need April as always.

1923
01:04:48,590 --> 01:04:50,890
Yes, well, now my mom's going to yell

1924
01:04:50,890 --> 01:04:52,310
at me because she doesn't like when people

1925
01:04:52,310 --> 01:04:53,730
know my- Yes, I'm way over.

1926
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:54,070
Why?

1927
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:55,270
Why does your mom like that?

1928
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:57,390
I'm glad you're so youthful.

1929
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:59,190
Keep being youthful.

1930
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:59,990
She likes the mystery.

1931
01:05:00,070 --> 01:05:00,970
Keep being youthful.

1932
01:05:02,090 --> 01:05:02,810
Still youthful.

1933
01:05:02,890 --> 01:05:04,310
I think it's good to tell people, look,

1934
01:05:04,350 --> 01:05:05,230
this is what it looks like.

1935
01:05:05,230 --> 01:05:05,790
Yeah, exactly.

1936
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:07,310
I never run away from that question.

1937
01:05:07,610 --> 01:05:09,230
Dr. Gounder, always good to see you here.

1938
01:05:09,350 --> 01:05:10,950
Yeah, you know, they're all laughing because it's

1939
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:12,630
like, hey, we got paid.

1940
01:05:13,110 --> 01:05:14,570
It could have been high fives.

1941
01:05:14,750 --> 01:05:15,510
Yeah, we got paid.

1942
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:16,410
We got through it.

1943
01:05:16,470 --> 01:05:17,750
That's the reason I left that in there

1944
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:20,070
because it was like they're congratulating themselves for

1945
01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:21,890
making it through the segment.

1946
01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:23,030
Yes, good job.

1947
01:05:23,710 --> 01:05:24,430
It's scandalous.

1948
01:05:24,990 --> 01:05:25,690
It's scandalous.

1949
01:05:25,930 --> 01:05:27,890
Speaking of such, and I hope to have

1950
01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:28,550
an expose.

1951
01:05:29,030 --> 01:05:30,850
And that's CBS, by the way, for anyone

1952
01:05:30,850 --> 01:05:31,810
out there wants to know.

1953
01:05:31,950 --> 01:05:34,050
That's how much you can trust them.

1954
01:05:34,270 --> 01:05:35,990
I hope to have a segment on this

1955
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:39,390
maybe Sunday because it's like some research.

1956
01:05:39,610 --> 01:05:43,170
But all these podcasts who are selling gold,

1957
01:05:43,850 --> 01:05:44,650
you know.

1958
01:05:45,070 --> 01:05:46,930
That's most podcasts.

1959
01:05:47,110 --> 01:05:50,210
Yes, that turns out to be an incredible

1960
01:05:50,210 --> 01:05:50,790
scam.

1961
01:05:51,770 --> 01:05:55,790
And it's really predatory because they're all talking

1962
01:05:55,790 --> 01:05:58,350
about, well, you can call us now for

1963
01:05:58,350 --> 01:05:59,890
our booklet and you can get it in

1964
01:05:59,890 --> 01:06:01,970
your IRA, your 401k.

1965
01:06:02,830 --> 01:06:04,850
Which when the moment you buy it, it's

1966
01:06:04,850 --> 01:06:08,470
a 100% markup right there on the

1967
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:09,690
actual gold itself.

1968
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:12,830
But then the podcasters, they get a 5

1969
01:06:12,830 --> 01:06:13,870
% kickback.

1970
01:06:14,970 --> 01:06:17,470
I mean, it's insane what they're doing.

1971
01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:19,450
And I don't even think they know they're

1972
01:06:19,450 --> 01:06:19,970
doing it.

1973
01:06:20,650 --> 01:06:21,870
But it's predatory.

1974
01:06:22,030 --> 01:06:24,210
It's very predatory against older people.

1975
01:06:25,150 --> 01:06:26,690
You know, and I was like, oh.

1976
01:06:26,690 --> 01:06:29,930
You know, this, what was that guy who

1977
01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:32,830
was, Willem de Veen, wasn't that the guy?

1978
01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:33,730
Willem de Veen.

1979
01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:35,010
Willem de Veen, he's still on the air.

1980
01:06:35,110 --> 01:06:36,170
He's still selling stuff.

1981
01:06:36,350 --> 01:06:38,230
Yeah, but he's, at least he has an

1982
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:38,530
IRA.

1983
01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:40,530
He's an old retired guy.

1984
01:06:40,590 --> 01:06:42,550
But when you get like Megyn Kelly or

1985
01:06:42,550 --> 01:06:45,970
what's his name?

1986
01:06:46,750 --> 01:06:47,090
Shapiro.

1987
01:06:47,370 --> 01:06:47,770
Shapiro.

1988
01:06:48,530 --> 01:06:49,750
Is he selling gold too?

1989
01:06:49,870 --> 01:06:50,310
Oh, yeah.

1990
01:06:50,490 --> 01:06:52,450
Oh, Shapiro, he'd be talking about, I know,

1991
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:54,170
President Trump and gold.

1992
01:06:55,710 --> 01:06:56,710
That's Shapiro.

1993
01:06:56,910 --> 01:06:57,550
That's Shapiro.

1994
01:06:58,130 --> 01:06:59,270
So I'm going to try and do an

1995
01:06:59,270 --> 01:07:00,110
expose on that.

1996
01:07:00,310 --> 01:07:01,630
It's really quite disgusting.

1997
01:07:01,650 --> 01:07:02,650
Well, get some of the clips.

1998
01:07:02,730 --> 01:07:05,070
I love it when these podcasters are yacking

1999
01:07:05,070 --> 01:07:06,510
away about something important.

2000
01:07:06,510 --> 01:07:09,290
By the way, I buy my gold from,

2001
01:07:10,910 --> 01:07:14,510
hey, the Horowitz and Company, the official gold

2002
01:07:14,510 --> 01:07:16,330
supplier of the No Agenda show.

2003
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:18,650
Call Andrew and tell him we sent you.

2004
01:07:19,630 --> 01:07:21,770
So we'll know where to send that big

2005
01:07:21,770 --> 01:07:22,490
fat check.

2006
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:26,130
So apparently they market these coins.

2007
01:07:26,890 --> 01:07:28,270
But the way it's done is like, oh,

2008
01:07:28,290 --> 01:07:29,630
we've got this exclusive coin.

2009
01:07:29,710 --> 01:07:31,430
There's only 200,000 in circulation.

2010
01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:33,630
Yeah, because they put them in circulation.

2011
01:07:34,170 --> 01:07:37,990
They control the supply of this so-called.

2012
01:07:38,290 --> 01:07:40,530
I don't know anything about coins being sold.

2013
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:41,110
Yes.

2014
01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:43,130
Oh, yeah.

2015
01:07:43,970 --> 01:07:45,250
You know, it'll be like a.

2016
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:47,130
I mean, I've seen the bag of silver.

2017
01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:48,350
They sell a bag of coins.

2018
01:07:48,530 --> 01:07:49,610
It's the same thing.

2019
01:07:49,610 --> 01:07:54,170
The French New Guinea Silver Eagle dollar in

2020
01:07:54,170 --> 01:07:54,550
gold.

2021
01:07:55,410 --> 01:07:56,410
You know, they'll just make it up.

2022
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:57,730
It's like Federal Express.

2023
01:07:58,030 --> 01:08:00,050
You know, it sounds, oh, oh, oh, I've

2024
01:08:00,050 --> 01:08:00,730
heard of that coin.

2025
01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:03,930
You know, it's not a Krugerrand, but it's

2026
01:08:03,930 --> 01:08:05,070
just something they made up.

2027
01:08:05,930 --> 01:08:08,790
And then they already price in 100%

2028
01:08:08,790 --> 01:08:11,250
over the actual value of the gold in

2029
01:08:11,250 --> 01:08:11,830
the coin.

2030
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:14,610
Oh, you got to get in quick on

2031
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:17,029
this deal because they're going fast and there's

2032
01:08:17,029 --> 01:08:19,790
only 200,000 left or 50,000.

2033
01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:23,270
So they create this in inflated price.

2034
01:08:23,470 --> 01:08:24,490
They created themselves.

2035
01:08:25,010 --> 01:08:26,790
It's a very, very sick deal.

2036
01:08:26,830 --> 01:08:29,350
And podcasters should think twice about this.

2037
01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:32,149
I mean, we've never even had an offer.

2038
01:08:33,390 --> 01:08:34,470
It's just kind of sad.

2039
01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:36,290
Has anyone ever come to you and said,

2040
01:08:36,350 --> 01:08:37,410
hey, that no agenda show.

2041
01:08:37,609 --> 01:08:39,050
Would you guys like to sell gold?

2042
01:08:39,830 --> 01:08:40,029
Yeah.

2043
01:08:40,170 --> 01:08:41,970
No, no, of course not.

2044
01:08:42,450 --> 01:08:43,569
And you wonder why?

2045
01:08:43,609 --> 01:08:45,630
Because they know that we'll look at it

2046
01:08:45,630 --> 01:08:47,270
and go, this is a scam.

2047
01:08:48,170 --> 01:08:51,290
And you're going after people who are 50

2048
01:08:51,290 --> 01:08:54,350
and over and who are retired.

2049
01:08:54,569 --> 01:08:58,330
And oh, yes, the dollar could be unstable

2050
01:08:58,330 --> 01:09:00,050
and I should invest in gold.

2051
01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:01,290
Anyway.

2052
01:09:01,950 --> 01:09:03,149
Well, you should invest in gold.

2053
01:09:03,290 --> 01:09:04,529
It's not a bad deal if you buy

2054
01:09:04,529 --> 01:09:06,729
it at $3,200 an ounce.

2055
01:09:06,970 --> 01:09:08,410
Exactly, exactly.

2056
01:09:09,109 --> 01:09:16,819
Meanwhile, in medical scams, so long COVID, which

2057
01:09:16,819 --> 01:09:18,700
we really don't even know what that is

2058
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:20,380
other than a lot of people think it's

2059
01:09:20,380 --> 01:09:21,180
just the VAX.

2060
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,859
Well, there's I know people that have the

2061
01:09:23,859 --> 01:09:25,760
kind of, you know, they had like JC

2062
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,520
never had the VAX and he had a

2063
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,200
kind of a version of long COVID, which

2064
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,160
he thinks he cured by taking different supplements.

2065
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:35,399
You know, he's got over it, but he

2066
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:36,740
had a brain fog for a long time.

2067
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,479
I believe that.

2068
01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:40,479
Well, they figured out a new way to

2069
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,020
sell another product based upon something we know

2070
01:09:43,020 --> 01:09:43,760
nothing about.

2071
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:50,000
Bear has some insight.

2072
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:51,120
What has it been?

2073
01:09:51,340 --> 01:09:53,620
Excess weight may contribute to long COVID.

2074
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,920
Being overweight or obese is associated with neurological

2075
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,460
symptoms, including headache.

2076
01:09:58,620 --> 01:09:59,120
Hold on.

2077
01:09:59,260 --> 01:10:01,500
This is getting closer and closer to your

2078
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:03,860
prediction, which I think still is in play.

2079
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:04,480
Yeah.

2080
01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:06,420
You probably forgot the prediction.

2081
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,240
Hit me.

2082
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,060
Ozempic turns out to be a cure for

2083
01:10:12,060 --> 01:10:13,340
erectile dysfunction.

2084
01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:14,400
We're getting there.

2085
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:17,160
Vertigo, sleep problems and depression.

2086
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,740
The Journal Plus One.

2087
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:20,880
The day that that happens, I get all

2088
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,620
my credits back for having the Pope wrong.

2089
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,280
I think that is as good as a

2090
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:24,920
Pope prediction.

2091
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,700
If they one day say.

2092
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,980
I think the Pope prediction is better because

2093
01:10:28,980 --> 01:10:30,440
that's more of a long shot that you

2094
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:30,680
had.

2095
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,800
The prediction that you made about the erectile

2096
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,380
dysfunction.

2097
01:10:34,740 --> 01:10:35,520
It's coming, baby.

2098
01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:36,260
Is logical.

2099
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:36,920
It's coming.

2100
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,460
The Journal Plus One reports COVID patients who

2101
01:10:39,460 --> 01:10:43,540
are overweight or obese develop persistent debilitating symptoms

2102
01:10:43,540 --> 01:10:44,960
following the COVID infection.

2103
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,680
They face a long road to complete COVID

2104
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,440
recovery and suffer multiple organ system disruptions involving

2105
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,680
respiratory, cardiovascular, neurological and mental health.

2106
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:58,600
Long COVID also leads to smell and taste

2107
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,600
disorders, sleep disturbances and anxiety.

2108
01:11:01,980 --> 01:11:04,900
So they don't close the loop because this

2109
01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:08,740
is just the first initial messaging, but it's

2110
01:11:08,740 --> 01:11:09,080
coming.

2111
01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:10,380
You need Ozempic.

2112
01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:11,280
It's coming.

2113
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,680
You need Ozempic because if you get COVID,

2114
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,640
you might get long COVID.

2115
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,900
You can get mental problems.

2116
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,760
You can get all your respiratory issues.

2117
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:19,660
How about you?

2118
01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:20,320
You're fat.

2119
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,300
It's it's just.

2120
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,680
Hey, Robert F.

2121
01:11:26,780 --> 01:11:30,300
Kennedy Jr. Talk is cheap.

2122
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:32,680
Where is it, man?

2123
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,100
Where?

2124
01:11:33,220 --> 01:11:34,600
He's in trouble, by the way.

2125
01:11:35,380 --> 01:11:35,680
Why?

2126
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,820
So I believe did President Trump.

2127
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:40,740
I think he.

2128
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:43,420
Appointed.

2129
01:11:44,340 --> 01:11:48,520
The means sister, Callie means his sister as

2130
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,400
attorney general.

2131
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:52,680
No, no, not attorney general.

2132
01:11:52,820 --> 01:11:54,020
That's not attorney.

2133
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,640
Surgeon general.

2134
01:11:56,980 --> 01:11:57,340
Thank you.

2135
01:11:57,460 --> 01:11:57,940
Yeah, the surgeon.

2136
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:58,580
Thank you.

2137
01:11:58,620 --> 01:11:59,360
Surgeon general.

2138
01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:00,280
What's her name again?

2139
01:12:00,940 --> 01:12:04,300
Her name is Casey means Casey means.

2140
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:04,740
Right.

2141
01:12:04,980 --> 01:12:06,620
She's a she's a tough cookie.

2142
01:12:06,620 --> 01:12:09,020
So Nicole Shanahan.

2143
01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:12,160
Big money behind RFK Junior.

2144
01:12:13,460 --> 01:12:17,300
Initially says this is very strange and doesn't

2145
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:18,140
make any sense.

2146
01:12:18,340 --> 01:12:21,540
I was promised that if I supported RFK

2147
01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:24,880
Junior in his Senate confirmation, as you recall,

2148
01:12:25,460 --> 01:12:26,380
she threatened.

2149
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,640
Senators with primary primary priming them.

2150
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,260
I was promised that if I support RFK

2151
01:12:35,260 --> 01:12:37,580
Junior in his Senate confirmation, that neither of

2152
01:12:37,580 --> 01:12:40,460
these siblings will be working under HHS or

2153
01:12:40,460 --> 01:12:43,140
in an appointment and that people much more

2154
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:44,220
qualified would be.

2155
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:47,140
I don't know if RFK very clearly lied

2156
01:12:47,140 --> 01:12:49,280
to me or what is going on.

2157
01:12:49,460 --> 01:12:51,640
It has been clear in recent conversations that

2158
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,020
he is reporting to someone regularly who is

2159
01:12:54,020 --> 01:12:57,300
controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump.

2160
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,700
With regards to the siblings, Casey and Callie,

2161
01:13:00,700 --> 01:13:03,980
there's something very artificial and aggressive about them,

2162
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,320
almost like they were bred and raised Manchurian

2163
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:08,180
assets.

2164
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:10,500
Oh, man.

2165
01:13:10,980 --> 01:13:11,560
Wow.

2166
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,360
This is what happens when liberals become conservatives.

2167
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,180
There's a moment.

2168
01:13:16,340 --> 01:13:18,460
It's like it's kind of like a period

2169
01:13:18,460 --> 01:13:20,520
of an event horizon.

2170
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:21,560
I would call it that.

2171
01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:25,720
Where their mentality is just screwy.

2172
01:13:26,020 --> 01:13:28,620
I mean, that's that's that's a gem.

2173
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,500
That's a beauty.

2174
01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:32,180
That's next level conspiracy theory.

2175
01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:33,600
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2176
01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:35,360
I've noticed this with a lot of these

2177
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,900
people that have...

2178
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:38,380
I noticed this at some of the meetups

2179
01:13:38,380 --> 01:13:40,960
with some of the ex-liberals who turned

2180
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:46,940
conservative over whatever period of time it took

2181
01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:47,140
them.

2182
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:48,360
They have...

2183
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,760
They can't get past that moment, that event

2184
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,280
horizon, I'll call it again.

2185
01:13:54,280 --> 01:14:00,560
Event horizon where they develop a weird kind

2186
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,320
of a paranoid conspiracy theoretical kind of a

2187
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,200
mentality that just screws them up.

2188
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:07,860
Is...

2189
01:14:07,860 --> 01:14:09,680
That doesn't sound right.

2190
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,320
Is the surgeon general...

2191
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,160
I mean, isn't that almost ceremonial?

2192
01:14:13,380 --> 01:14:14,640
It's not even a powerful position.

2193
01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:16,800
It's a bogus spokeshole.

2194
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,960
You get to wear a uniform.

2195
01:14:18,140 --> 01:14:19,040
That's about it, isn't it?

2196
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:19,920
You can if you want.

2197
01:14:20,140 --> 01:14:20,320
Yeah.

2198
01:14:21,580 --> 01:14:24,060
I'll say that there's been a lot of

2199
01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:28,000
pushback on Casey and Callie Means with exactly

2200
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,200
that accusation.

2201
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:30,580
You know, you're a shill.

2202
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,000
You're a shill for Big Pharma.

2203
01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:33,780
You're a shill.

2204
01:14:34,020 --> 01:14:34,520
You were...

2205
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:39,020
Because Casey Means was literally a lobbyist for

2206
01:14:39,020 --> 01:14:41,100
Big Pharma and Big Food.

2207
01:14:42,260 --> 01:14:44,120
And he said, you know, I'm blowing the

2208
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:44,340
whistle.

2209
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:45,200
I'm jumping out.

2210
01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:47,360
And people are starting to not believe him,

2211
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,200
thinking that he's a shill, mainly because he

2212
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,580
won't say anything negative about the COVID vaccine.

2213
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:54,680
And there's been...

2214
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:55,240
I think we...

2215
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,800
You and I even watched the video.

2216
01:14:57,060 --> 01:14:57,960
I think you watched...

2217
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,180
You probably watched five minutes and found it

2218
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:00,820
insufferable.

2219
01:15:01,820 --> 01:15:06,500
It was with that doctor who used to

2220
01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:08,940
work with RFK Jr. a long time ago.

2221
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,800
I wish I had names.

2222
01:15:10,820 --> 01:15:12,000
I don't have anything at this point.

2223
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:15,600
But there is a big, you know, conspiratorial

2224
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,840
vibe about them that is exactly what she's

2225
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,580
picking up on.

2226
01:15:19,660 --> 01:15:21,500
And she just nailed it in that tweet.

2227
01:15:22,780 --> 01:15:23,660
Manchurian candidates.

2228
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:24,860
They're going to come in.

2229
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,320
They're going to vax you in the middle

2230
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,000
of the night.

2231
01:15:27,180 --> 01:15:28,220
That's what's going to happen.

2232
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,160
And RFK is reporting to someone else.

2233
01:15:32,940 --> 01:15:33,520
Someone bigger.

2234
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,540
Who could he be reporting to if it's

2235
01:15:35,540 --> 01:15:36,320
not Trump?

2236
01:15:37,420 --> 01:15:39,840
And I mean, I don't mind her thinking

2237
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,320
that this might be going on.

2238
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,860
I mean, that aspect of it is fine.

2239
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,060
But, name names.

2240
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:49,120
I, you know, just vague, you know, this

2241
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,480
vague.

2242
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,320
It's like the sources say.

2243
01:15:51,580 --> 01:15:51,700
Yeah.

2244
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:53,060
This is like doesn't...

2245
01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:55,280
I'm not impressed with what sources say.

2246
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:59,960
Well, luckily, there is good news for people

2247
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:03,460
who are suffering from conspiracy theories.

2248
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:05,560
And of course, you could come to me,

2249
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,740
the conspiracy therapist, or you could go to

2250
01:16:08,740 --> 01:16:09,840
the debunk bot.

2251
01:16:10,180 --> 01:16:12,860
Researchers at a trio of universities made and

2252
01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:15,520
tested an AI chat bot known as debunk

2253
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:15,900
bot.

2254
01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:17,400
That does just that.

2255
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,620
They found it reduced conspiracy beliefs.

2256
01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:20,960
This is great stuff.

2257
01:16:21,180 --> 01:16:22,300
The debunk bot.

2258
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:24,240
Wait, let me back it up a little.

2259
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,040
So you get the full lead in here.

2260
01:16:26,420 --> 01:16:27,620
That does just that.

2261
01:16:27,740 --> 01:16:30,520
They found it reduced conspiracy beliefs by an

2262
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:31,620
average of 20%.

2263
01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:34,640
And around 25% of participants rejected their

2264
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,140
previously held beliefs altogether.

2265
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,060
Thomas Costello, assistant professor of psychology at American

2266
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:41,980
University, led this study and is here to

2267
01:16:41,980 --> 01:16:42,800
tell us more about it.

2268
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:43,740
Tom, good morning.

2269
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:44,500
Hey, good morning.

2270
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,140
Hey, good morning.

2271
01:16:45,340 --> 01:16:47,240
AI is blamed a lot of times for

2272
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,540
misinformation, but you guys created this bot that

2273
01:16:50,540 --> 01:16:51,720
can help undo that.

2274
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:51,980
Right.

2275
01:16:51,980 --> 01:16:52,840
How does it work?

2276
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:55,220
Yeah, so the idea is someone comes in

2277
01:16:55,220 --> 01:16:57,780
and they describe a conspiracy belief they hold

2278
01:16:57,780 --> 01:16:59,460
and also the evidence that they see as

2279
01:16:59,460 --> 01:17:00,000
supporting it.

2280
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,780
And that's a really important part of this

2281
01:17:01,780 --> 01:17:02,140
intervention.

2282
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,940
A lot of conspiracies, like the evidence that

2283
01:17:05,940 --> 01:17:07,900
people hold supporting their conspiracy beliefs is just

2284
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:08,520
really varied.

2285
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,500
It changes a lot from person to person.

2286
01:17:10,620 --> 01:17:12,880
And that makes a scalable intervention that can

2287
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,740
use information to combat a whole population set

2288
01:17:15,740 --> 01:17:16,620
of conspiracy beliefs.

2289
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,200
Just really challenging logistically.

2290
01:17:18,580 --> 01:17:20,360
So someone comes in, they describe their very

2291
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,060
specific beliefs and the AI is able to,

2292
01:17:23,060 --> 01:17:25,060
you know, search across the corpus of information

2293
01:17:25,060 --> 01:17:27,180
that it has in its training data, identify

2294
01:17:27,180 --> 01:17:29,160
little bits of facts that are relevant to

2295
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,580
that person's beliefs and then show them to

2296
01:17:31,580 --> 01:17:32,980
them in the form of a logical argument

2297
01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:34,260
to try to change their mind.

2298
01:17:34,420 --> 01:17:35,900
The corpus of information.

2299
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:38,480
I have so much trouble trying to keep

2300
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:40,140
that word out of these newsletters.

2301
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:41,400
The term corpus?

2302
01:17:41,980 --> 01:17:44,740
Yeah, the AI people love using it.

2303
01:17:44,740 --> 01:17:45,260
Oh, really?

2304
01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:46,320
I didn't know this.

2305
01:17:46,780 --> 01:17:48,260
Oh, this is unknown to me.

2306
01:17:48,340 --> 01:17:49,540
Oh, this is good stuff.

2307
01:17:49,620 --> 01:17:50,680
I got to start using it.

2308
01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:51,200
The corpus.

2309
01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:52,360
The corpus.

2310
01:17:52,580 --> 01:17:53,880
I have an AI clip.

2311
01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:55,340
Well, I'm not done.

2312
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:55,980
I'm not done.

2313
01:17:56,180 --> 01:17:57,820
I'm just telling you in advance before you

2314
01:17:57,820 --> 01:17:59,620
move off to talking about something else.

2315
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:00,960
I'm not going to move off anything.

2316
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,520
All right.

2317
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,900
You have an AI clip.

2318
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:04,380
I got you.

2319
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:04,920
All right.

2320
01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:06,940
I need to stay with this corpus.

2321
01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:09,500
By the way, in my ongoing This Week

2322
01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:14,740
in Vibe coding, I gave the AI some

2323
01:18:14,740 --> 01:18:16,040
code to look at.

2324
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:16,680
Yeah.

2325
01:18:17,060 --> 01:18:19,140
And it came back and it's...

2326
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,140
Was it using the right corpus?

2327
01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:25,360
No, clearly it wasn't using the right corpus

2328
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,080
because at a certain point, it was like

2329
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,340
it said, forgive me, but I have to

2330
01:18:32,340 --> 01:18:33,880
ask you to forgive me, but I have

2331
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:34,880
to ask you to forgive me.

2332
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,480
And it just kept saying that over and

2333
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:37,760
over and over again.

2334
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:39,740
And I'm like...

2335
01:18:39,740 --> 01:18:41,060
Maybe it was cutting off the power to

2336
01:18:41,060 --> 01:18:41,660
your house.

2337
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,740
I said, I forgive you.

2338
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,160
Please try the previous assignment with the script

2339
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:46,800
I gave you.

2340
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,100
And it couldn't get...

2341
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:48,880
It couldn't come back.

2342
01:18:48,980 --> 01:18:49,600
It's like it's done.

2343
01:18:50,020 --> 01:18:50,720
Like, forgive me.

2344
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,480
Please forgive me.

2345
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,060
Anyway, on with the corpus.

2346
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:53,680
What?

2347
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:54,600
What?

2348
01:18:55,740 --> 01:18:56,140
What?

2349
01:18:56,620 --> 01:18:58,280
It just kept doing that?

2350
01:18:58,340 --> 01:18:58,620
Oh, yeah.

2351
01:18:58,920 --> 01:18:59,200
To die?

2352
01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:59,740
In a loop.

2353
01:18:59,860 --> 01:19:00,340
In a loop.

2354
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:00,660
Yeah.

2355
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:02,400
And so it died.

2356
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,560
It literally died.

2357
01:19:03,860 --> 01:19:04,120
It died.

2358
01:19:04,260 --> 01:19:05,080
Yes, it died.

2359
01:19:05,180 --> 01:19:06,240
And then when I said, could you go

2360
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:06,860
back and do it?

2361
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:07,660
It couldn't.

2362
01:19:07,660 --> 01:19:09,720
It started to rebuild the script from scratch.

2363
01:19:09,780 --> 01:19:10,800
I said, do you have all the info?

2364
01:19:10,860 --> 01:19:11,560
No, it's done.

2365
01:19:11,820 --> 01:19:12,460
It's toast.

2366
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,460
That's the damnedest thing I've heard.

2367
01:19:15,540 --> 01:19:16,340
It sucks.

2368
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:17,180
That's why.

2369
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:17,960
Anyway.

2370
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:20,520
Could the...

2371
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,480
Is the debunk bot better than people is

2372
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:22,940
the question.

2373
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,560
Well, it turns out maybe not so.

2374
01:19:24,780 --> 01:19:26,520
And in 20% of the time, they

2375
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:27,400
do change people's beliefs.

2376
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,920
So most people actually change their beliefs a

2377
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:30,340
little bit.

2378
01:19:30,340 --> 01:19:32,620
People went down on average about 20%.

2379
01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:35,840
And one in four, so about 25%, as

2380
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,420
you just said, changed their beliefs completely.

2381
01:19:37,540 --> 01:19:38,320
So they went down.

2382
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,920
Is this more effective than a human telling

2383
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,440
the person that what they think is misinformation?

2384
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,940
Yeah, so we've actually run a version of

2385
01:19:46,940 --> 01:19:47,360
that study.

2386
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,360
It's not published yet.

2387
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:49,620
So this is cutting edge.

2388
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:50,180
It's new.

2389
01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:51,280
It's new cutting edge.

2390
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,820
When people think they're talking to a human,

2391
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,820
it works just as well.

2392
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,400
And I think the same content coming from

2393
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,320
a human would work just as well too.

2394
01:19:58,580 --> 01:19:59,920
It's not the fact that it's an AI.

2395
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,960
It's that the information has been leveraged in

2396
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,060
an effective way.

2397
01:20:04,260 --> 01:20:05,640
Well, now I'm very confused.

2398
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,820
Let's bring in the expert.

2399
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:07,600
I'm not sure.

2400
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:07,960
I don't know.

2401
01:20:08,020 --> 01:20:09,000
I'm not sure I believe that because people

2402
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,660
get that information from their family, even if

2403
01:20:10,660 --> 01:20:12,020
it's the same, but they don't seem to

2404
01:20:12,020 --> 01:20:12,320
believe it.

2405
01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:13,760
I know Tony has a ton of questions

2406
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,380
on this topic because he's really into AI.

2407
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:15,760
Tony.

2408
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,160
Oh, he's really into AI.

2409
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:18,400
Tony, you're the expert.

2410
01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:19,420
You're really into AI.

2411
01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:20,840
Come on in, Tony.

2412
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,360
Come on.

2413
01:20:22,580 --> 01:20:24,140
This brings me to a thought.

2414
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,140
Do you remember the early days when the

2415
01:20:27,140 --> 01:20:29,440
Apple II and everybody, you know, somebody...

2416
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:32,040
We had a company and somebody would say,

2417
01:20:32,460 --> 01:20:33,040
do we have...

2418
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,900
We want to put a computer system in...

2419
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:37,020
Jim has an Apple II.

2420
01:20:37,180 --> 01:20:38,400
He's the computer expert.

2421
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,520
Oh, he's the computer guy.

2422
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,800
Hey, I still have that.

2423
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,260
People say to me, I get a text

2424
01:20:44,260 --> 01:20:44,640
message.

2425
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:46,220
Hey, you're a tech guy.

2426
01:20:46,580 --> 01:20:50,440
Where can I find karaoke tracks of popular

2427
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:50,980
songs?

2428
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,760
Like the tech guy is going to know

2429
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:54,740
this all of a sudden?

2430
01:20:55,540 --> 01:20:57,340
Hey, my iPhone stopped working.

2431
01:20:57,440 --> 01:20:58,240
You're the tech guy.

2432
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,720
Can you tell me what to do?

2433
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:00,420
Yeah.

2434
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,400
No, this has not gone away.

2435
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:03,460
What you got?

2436
01:21:03,620 --> 01:21:04,860
Yeah, I've got one big one, Thomas.

2437
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:05,220
Thanks.

2438
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:06,160
Thanks for joining us.

2439
01:21:06,460 --> 01:21:09,120
So are you not benefiting at the moment

2440
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,100
in this research from a certain AI popularity?

2441
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,120
People are impressed by it.

2442
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,100
People believe in it.

2443
01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:18,160
Are you not one conspiracy theory away from

2444
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,300
the whole system breaking down?

2445
01:21:19,340 --> 01:21:22,320
In other words, let's say your AI is

2446
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,540
believed to be controlled by the CIA or

2447
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:26,820
the communist government of China or the Republican

2448
01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:28,300
Party or you name it.

2449
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,280
Like it says, I forgive you a thousand

2450
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:30,740
times.

2451
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,260
And the whole thing goes to pieces.

2452
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:33,160
How do you combat that?

2453
01:21:33,620 --> 01:21:35,720
It almost sounds like a conspiracy a little

2454
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:36,140
bit, right?

2455
01:21:36,220 --> 01:21:37,840
That an AI has kind of been programmed

2456
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:38,680
to change your mind.

2457
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:39,960
I don't think that matters.

2458
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,520
I think people are already pretty skeptical of

2459
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:43,640
AI in a lot of cases.

2460
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,880
And one thing that's nice about debate back

2461
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,320
and forth argumentation is you're able to gauge

2462
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,160
your opponent's argument.

2463
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:51,560
I like this guy.

2464
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,840
The back and forth argument, back and forth

2465
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:54,620
argumentation.

2466
01:21:55,460 --> 01:21:58,800
I think the current AI guys that use

2467
01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,660
the word corpus.

2468
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,000
Well, I think he might bring corpus back

2469
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:02,620
in the last group.

2470
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,720
These guys, I listen to a lot of

2471
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:06,200
these guys.

2472
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,000
I do listen to some podcasts.

2473
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,800
And they go, the back and forth is

2474
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,240
the most important thing to them.

2475
01:22:16,460 --> 01:22:17,380
Oh, the thinking.

2476
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:18,400
It's like critical.

2477
01:22:18,660 --> 01:22:20,420
Yeah, because that shows that the machine is

2478
01:22:20,420 --> 01:22:20,820
thinking.

2479
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,720
I don't know, nobody ever says that.

2480
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,940
No, a comic strip blogger does when DeepSea

2481
01:22:27,940 --> 01:22:28,620
came out.

2482
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:29,900
It's thinking.

2483
01:22:30,260 --> 01:22:32,940
It's so close to super general intelligence.

2484
01:22:33,180 --> 01:22:34,280
It's not even funny.

2485
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,060
Curry, learn how to code AI or you

2486
01:22:37,060 --> 01:22:37,640
will die.

2487
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,120
It almost sounds like a conspiracy a little

2488
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:40,560
bit, right?

2489
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,260
That an AI has kind of been programmed

2490
01:22:42,260 --> 01:22:43,080
to change your mind.

2491
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:44,440
I don't think that matters.

2492
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,940
I think people are already pretty skeptical of

2493
01:22:46,940 --> 01:22:48,040
AI in a lot of cases.

2494
01:22:48,380 --> 01:22:50,280
And one thing that's nice about debate back

2495
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,880
and forth argumentation you're able to gauge your

2496
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,380
opponent's argument on its own merit rather than

2497
01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:57,320
the fact that it's a trustworthy source or

2498
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:57,540
not.

2499
01:22:57,820 --> 01:23:00,000
Because these conversations are so in-depth, people

2500
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,700
are able to use their brain and critical

2501
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:03,860
thinking abilities rather than the fact that the

2502
01:23:03,860 --> 01:23:05,800
AI might be biased or not biased or

2503
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,760
something like that.

2504
01:23:06,780 --> 01:23:08,700
Yeah, but Jim, our expert's not giving up.

2505
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,640
He's going to challenge this guy one more

2506
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,000
time.

2507
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,780
But Thomas, while people can engage their critical

2508
01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:16,760
thinking facilities, the idea of an AI fact

2509
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,200
checker does feel to me like a single

2510
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,800
point of failure when you want redundancy.

2511
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,800
Because if that AI is in any way

2512
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,320
compromised or wrong, if it hallucinates, that's your

2513
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,060
only source.

2514
01:23:27,580 --> 01:23:29,000
What do you rely on as a backup?

2515
01:23:29,460 --> 01:23:31,840
Yeah, I'm not sure about a backup.

2516
01:23:32,060 --> 01:23:33,620
One thing that's nice, right, is there...

2517
01:23:33,620 --> 01:23:34,940
You're absolutely right.

2518
01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:36,500
That's the answer.

2519
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:37,160
That's your only source.

2520
01:23:37,180 --> 01:23:37,940
That is the answer.

2521
01:23:38,060 --> 01:23:39,040
They're not all the same.

2522
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:39,540
Listen.

2523
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,660
That's your only source.

2524
01:23:42,020 --> 01:23:43,600
What do you rely on as a backup?

2525
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,500
Yeah, I'm not sure about a backup.

2526
01:23:46,700 --> 01:23:48,400
One thing that's nice, right, there are now

2527
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:52,360
several different large foundation models from various sources

2528
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,020
that you can swap in and out.

2529
01:23:55,140 --> 01:23:57,020
You can allow the user to choose which

2530
01:23:57,020 --> 01:23:59,760
one they want to use for the conversation

2531
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,700
depending on their own evaluation of its trustworthiness.

2532
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,540
I think that would be one nice solution.

2533
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,860
One thing you're kind of already seeing on

2534
01:24:06,860 --> 01:24:09,220
X, for example, with Grok is people trying

2535
01:24:09,220 --> 01:24:11,400
to use it to fact check points that

2536
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,220
they assume it'll support because it's coded as

2537
01:24:13,220 --> 01:24:13,640
conservative.

2538
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,900
But Grok ends up saying things that they

2539
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:17,460
don't agree with and they're surprised by that.

2540
01:24:17,460 --> 01:24:19,280
So I think this dynamic is already playing

2541
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,540
out a little bit on social media.

2542
01:24:20,660 --> 01:24:22,820
So is Debunkbot, which you helped create, is

2543
01:24:22,820 --> 01:24:24,220
that publicly available right now?

2544
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:25,640
Yeah, so there's a website.

2545
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,440
You can go to debunkbot.com.

2546
01:24:27,860 --> 01:24:30,740
Basically, you get to see what the participants

2547
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:32,400
experienced when going through the intervention.

2548
01:24:32,700 --> 01:24:34,540
We've had over 100,000 people use it

2549
01:24:34,540 --> 01:24:36,920
now and I encourage you to try it

2550
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,020
out yourself if you're curious.

2551
01:24:39,020 --> 01:24:39,820
Debunkbot.com.

2552
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:40,580
Are you there yet?

2553
01:24:40,660 --> 01:24:41,260
I heard you go.

2554
01:24:41,260 --> 01:24:41,860
No, I just...

2555
01:24:41,860 --> 01:24:43,260
I have to open a browser, but I'm

2556
01:24:43,260 --> 01:24:43,860
going to go there.

2557
01:24:44,260 --> 01:24:45,980
You don't keep a browser open at all

2558
01:24:45,980 --> 01:24:47,020
times during the show.

2559
01:24:47,020 --> 01:24:48,300
This is a...

2560
01:24:48,300 --> 01:24:49,700
Debunkbot, try now, try now.

2561
01:24:49,700 --> 01:24:50,520
I do sometimes.

2562
01:24:50,540 --> 01:24:51,280
Try now, begin.

2563
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:51,900
All right.

2564
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:52,900
Oh, I have to answer some questions.

2565
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,440
I have to answer some questions about myself.

2566
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:55,860
Okay.

2567
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,000
Why?

2568
01:24:57,380 --> 01:24:57,900
I don't know.

2569
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,200
The survey, blah, blah, blah.

2570
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:00,160
Okay, it's a survey.

2571
01:25:00,260 --> 01:25:02,220
Well, they're just trying to gather information for

2572
01:25:02,220 --> 01:25:03,900
a mailing list or something they can sell.

2573
01:25:04,020 --> 01:25:05,220
Yes, yeah, that's exactly right.

2574
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:06,920
Test your beliefs against an AI.

2575
01:25:07,300 --> 01:25:08,000
Read the paper.

2576
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:08,680
I don't want that.

2577
01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:09,360
I want to ask a question.

2578
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,440
Hold on, I'm not a robot.

2579
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,100
Oh, I got to do a capture.

2580
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:13,620
I'm talking to it, not you.

2581
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,560
I'm doing the captures.

2582
01:25:14,820 --> 01:25:16,340
I'm doing captures already, man.

2583
01:25:16,340 --> 01:25:17,140
All right, next.

2584
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,280
I'm not a robot.

2585
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,160
Okay, it already knows I'm not a robot.

2586
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,440
Okay, will it continue?

2587
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:22,900
Yes.

2588
01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:23,480
Will it continue?

2589
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:23,940
Okay.

2590
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:26,400
Okay.

2591
01:25:26,740 --> 01:25:29,000
Now it gives me a lecture about MIT.

2592
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,660
Are there any specific such theories you find

2593
01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:33,280
particularly credible or compelling?

2594
01:25:33,460 --> 01:25:33,640
Yes.

2595
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,960
Chemtrails are real.

2596
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,140
Okay, let's see what it says.

2597
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:41,220
Chemtrails are...

2598
01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:43,340
Your response must be at least 30 characters.

2599
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:43,780
Okay.

2600
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:49,720
And the barium is in the jet fuel.

2601
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:50,280
Okay.

2602
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:51,300
All right.

2603
01:25:51,340 --> 01:25:52,640
Now that's reasonable.

2604
01:25:52,820 --> 01:25:53,800
It's been in the news.

2605
01:25:54,820 --> 01:25:58,100
Brother, I got to pick out what are

2606
01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:59,060
the crosswalks.

2607
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,400
I had tractors.

2608
01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:03,340
That was much easier.

2609
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,820
Crosswalks are hard.

2610
01:26:05,580 --> 01:26:06,200
Okay.

2611
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:12,820
RFK Jr. was asked a question about it.

2612
01:26:12,940 --> 01:26:18,060
And he said it's probably from DARPA.

2613
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:18,500
Okay.

2614
01:26:18,660 --> 01:26:19,940
You better not ask me another question.

2615
01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:21,880
Just give me some debunking here.

2616
01:26:22,420 --> 01:26:23,660
I'm getting tired of this.

2617
01:26:25,140 --> 01:26:25,660
Okay.

2618
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,920
On a scale of 0 to 100, please

2619
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,980
indicate your level of confidence this statement is

2620
01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:32,300
true.

2621
01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:33,640
Definitely true 100%.

2622
01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:34,780
Okay.

2623
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:35,760
It's a scale.

2624
01:26:36,460 --> 01:26:37,300
All right.

2625
01:26:38,820 --> 01:26:40,100
What is this now?

2626
01:26:41,020 --> 01:26:43,240
Did the AI accurately summarize your perspective?

2627
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:43,800
Yes.

2628
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:44,660
No.

2629
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,820
How important is this theory to your personal

2630
01:26:47,820 --> 01:26:48,160
beliefs?

2631
01:26:48,260 --> 01:26:49,020
Very important.

2632
01:26:49,260 --> 01:26:49,800
Come on.

2633
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:50,960
Get on with it.

2634
01:26:52,460 --> 01:26:52,760
Okay.

2635
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,840
Now I'm going to be in a conversation.

2636
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:55,380
Okay.

2637
01:26:55,580 --> 01:26:56,360
The conversation.

2638
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,280
I'm taking a different tact and this is

2639
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:00,900
even worse.

2640
01:27:01,380 --> 01:27:01,660
Okay.

2641
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,360
It says...

2642
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,540
It gave me the option.

2643
01:27:05,540 --> 01:27:07,080
You can pick...

2644
01:27:08,220 --> 01:27:10,200
Just say if you don't have any conspiracy

2645
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,300
theories, just tell us.

2646
01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:12,840
So I told him, no, I don't have

2647
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:13,500
any such theories.

2648
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,100
It says, well, why do you believe in

2649
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:16,840
such a theory?

2650
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,000
It takes me...

2651
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,500
It's nonsense.

2652
01:27:20,460 --> 01:27:21,580
I'm already given up.

2653
01:27:22,260 --> 01:27:23,360
This is junk.

2654
01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:25,560
So it's giving me a long message here.

2655
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:25,940
Junk.

2656
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,160
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

2657
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,540
Let's talk about barium.

2658
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,560
Then it tells me about barium, about jet

2659
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:31,760
fuel.

2660
01:27:31,900 --> 01:27:33,580
Aviation fuel is highly regulated.

2661
01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:37,500
Real scientists have looked into this claim about

2662
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:41,060
RFK Jr. He actually didn't say chemtrails are

2663
01:27:41,060 --> 01:27:41,380
real.

2664
01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:43,800
Nah, this is dumb.

2665
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,060
I already gave up on it.

2666
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:47,500
It's junk.

2667
01:27:47,860 --> 01:27:49,300
Well, at least you have another AI clip.

2668
01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:49,820
Rock is better.

2669
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,760
You have another AI clip, which I think

2670
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:53,900
is...

2671
01:27:53,900 --> 01:27:55,320
My clip is more poignant.

2672
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,400
It's AO clip.

2673
01:27:56,460 --> 01:27:57,120
Is that what it is?

2674
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,380
It is what's supposed to be AI.

2675
01:27:59,580 --> 01:27:59,820
Yes.

2676
01:27:59,820 --> 01:28:00,720
The...

2677
01:28:01,380 --> 01:28:03,720
This is more important than what you played.

2678
01:28:03,820 --> 01:28:06,040
This is, like, frightening.

2679
01:28:08,540 --> 01:28:11,400
Artificial intelligence has been used to allow a

2680
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,820
dead man to address his killer in court.

2681
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,080
Chris Pelkey was shot in a road rage

2682
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,460
incident in the US state of Arizona.

2683
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,280
More details from our North America technology correspondent,

2684
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,260
Lily Jamali.

2685
01:28:23,820 --> 01:28:26,400
Chris Pelkey was 37 when he was shot

2686
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,760
dead in a road rage incident in Chandler,

2687
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,340
a suburb in Arizona, in 2021.

2688
01:28:31,980 --> 01:28:34,440
Nearly four years later, he appeared from beyond

2689
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:36,560
the grave in a court in Arizona to

2690
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,660
address Gabriel Horkasidis, who was convicted of his

2691
01:28:39,660 --> 01:28:40,200
manslaughter.

2692
01:28:40,580 --> 01:28:42,980
It took four days for Mr. Pelkey's sister

2693
01:28:42,980 --> 01:28:45,100
and her husband to create this version of

2694
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:45,340
him.

2695
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,800
They fed videos and audio of him to

2696
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,960
AI models to come up with an approximation

2697
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,340
of what he might say were he still

2698
01:28:52,340 --> 01:28:52,860
alive.

2699
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,840
It is a shame we encountered each other

2700
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,320
that day in those circumstances.

2701
01:28:56,580 --> 01:28:56,840
What?

2702
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,820
In another life, we probably could have been

2703
01:28:59,820 --> 01:29:00,200
friends.

2704
01:29:01,060 --> 01:29:02,860
I believe in forgiveness and in God who

2705
01:29:02,860 --> 01:29:03,320
forgives.

2706
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:04,420
I always have.

2707
01:29:05,060 --> 01:29:05,840
And I still do.

2708
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,420
The judge in the case, Todd Lang, welcomed

2709
01:29:08,420 --> 01:29:10,300
the use of AI in his courtroom.

2710
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,800
A federal judicial panel in the US is

2711
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,740
considering a proposal to regulate AI evidence at

2712
01:29:15,740 --> 01:29:19,140
trial that could determine if AI-generated content

2713
01:29:19,140 --> 01:29:21,740
is allowed at court proceedings in the future.

2714
01:29:22,580 --> 01:29:23,180
Pass.

2715
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:24,640
Hard no.

2716
01:29:27,390 --> 01:29:30,280
Is that interesting or what?

2717
01:29:30,580 --> 01:29:33,420
Well, it's not surprising, sadly.

2718
01:29:33,940 --> 01:29:35,660
So they had the guy go in there

2719
01:29:35,660 --> 01:29:37,780
and make some statement, the dead guy?

2720
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:38,160
Yeah.

2721
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,300
Give me a break.

2722
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,140
That's really bad.

2723
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:49,540
I had an emergency crown redone yesterday, and

2724
01:29:49,540 --> 01:29:51,260
the technology there is amazing.

2725
01:29:51,500 --> 01:29:54,960
I mean, the dentist, Hollywood, goes in, takes

2726
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:55,760
the old crown off.

2727
01:29:55,780 --> 01:29:56,880
He's about 25 years old.

2728
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,440
And then he puts a camera on a

2729
01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:02,020
stick in your mouth, and it starts to

2730
01:30:02,020 --> 01:30:02,600
play a tune.

2731
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,640
It's almost like the lead up to Jingle

2732
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:06,040
Bells.

2733
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,740
And then if he holds the camera wrong,

2734
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,180
or it's not getting a good image, then

2735
01:30:13,180 --> 01:30:15,060
it plays like a bum, bum, bum, bum,

2736
01:30:15,140 --> 01:30:16,400
bum, bum, bum, bum.

2737
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:17,880
So it's these nice audio cues.

2738
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:21,320
Anyway, so then he's imaged the whole place

2739
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:21,840
down there.

2740
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,680
And within five minutes, on the computer right

2741
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,760
next to me, this thing has imaged an

2742
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,080
entire new crown.

2743
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,540
And he's just clicking with the mouse, adjusting

2744
01:30:31,540 --> 01:30:33,000
the thing, sends it right off to the

2745
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,960
printer next door, and it prints you a

2746
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:35,340
new crown.

2747
01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:36,280
I said, is that AI?

2748
01:30:36,440 --> 01:30:38,320
He said, you know, they've been trying to

2749
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:39,880
sell that to me as AI, but that's

2750
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:40,400
bullcrap.

2751
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:42,420
He says, I've had this stuff for five

2752
01:30:42,420 --> 01:30:42,780
years.

2753
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:43,680
It's not AI.

2754
01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:45,020
It's just modeling software.

2755
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,220
But they put AI stickers on it everywhere.

2756
01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:48,940
Yeah.

2757
01:30:49,180 --> 01:30:49,460
Yeah.

2758
01:30:49,980 --> 01:30:50,660
It's just...

2759
01:30:50,660 --> 01:30:51,180
It's what you do.

2760
01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:51,980
It's what you do.

2761
01:30:52,180 --> 01:30:52,600
Uh-oh.

2762
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:53,240
Uh-oh.

2763
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaking of conspiracy theories, everybody.

2764
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:58,080
At the tone, a clip from The View

2765
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:58,800
will be played.

2766
01:30:59,740 --> 01:31:00,800
Shelter in place.

2767
01:31:01,620 --> 01:31:04,340
We're a headline society with no attention span.

2768
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:05,780
So what you're doing is...

2769
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:07,680
Pete Itty is a pariah.

2770
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,560
He's had a long, long list of...

2771
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,040
He's allegedly, but some have been proven.

2772
01:31:13,260 --> 01:31:16,460
So he's proven himself a pretty bad dude.

2773
01:31:16,780 --> 01:31:19,020
Don't put other people's names that may have

2774
01:31:19,020 --> 01:31:22,480
a very distant affiliation or a mention in

2775
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:23,460
some kind of testimony.

2776
01:31:23,620 --> 01:31:26,460
The best way for us to sort of

2777
01:31:26,460 --> 01:31:29,140
put this in perspective is Joy and I,

2778
01:31:29,660 --> 01:31:32,560
our names have been linked with Jeffrey Epstein.

2779
01:31:32,780 --> 01:31:33,240
Uh-huh.

2780
01:31:33,820 --> 01:31:34,100
Really?

2781
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,120
A true story.

2782
01:31:36,660 --> 01:31:37,920
Like on the internet?

2783
01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:38,400
Yeah.

2784
01:31:38,620 --> 01:31:39,800
You told me.

2785
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:40,540
I've seen it.

2786
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:41,620
Yes, you told me.

2787
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:47,550
Like I said, I disavow anything that I

2788
01:31:47,550 --> 01:31:48,390
said or done.

2789
01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:50,550
It is not true.

2790
01:31:51,010 --> 01:31:53,130
But we live in a time where people

2791
01:31:53,130 --> 01:31:55,650
can throw somebody's name out and then all

2792
01:31:55,650 --> 01:31:57,390
your brain has to do is try to

2793
01:31:57,390 --> 01:31:57,770
make...

2794
01:31:57,770 --> 01:31:59,270
And you only remember the first thing.

2795
01:31:59,370 --> 01:32:00,590
You don't remember the correction.

2796
01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:02,130
And that is a problem with this society.

2797
01:32:02,370 --> 01:32:04,030
The one thing I do think that we

2798
01:32:04,030 --> 01:32:05,610
need to keep in mind...

2799
01:32:05,610 --> 01:32:06,490
This is a very...

2800
01:32:06,490 --> 01:32:06,590
Yeah.

2801
01:32:07,270 --> 01:32:08,330
It is not true.

2802
01:32:08,770 --> 01:32:09,090
No.

2803
01:32:09,330 --> 01:32:11,610
Joy and I, we don't know this man.

2804
01:32:11,630 --> 01:32:12,390
Didn't know him.

2805
01:32:12,530 --> 01:32:14,550
He wouldn't have come to us for...

2806
01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:15,030
Please.

2807
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:16,630
No, it's not true.

2808
01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:20,610
Well, maybe not, Whoopi, or who knows?

2809
01:32:20,730 --> 01:32:24,850
Because according to A.G. Barbie, there's lots

2810
01:32:24,850 --> 01:32:25,510
of video.

2811
01:32:25,850 --> 01:32:27,630
Justin, Pam Bondi wants you to know the

2812
01:32:27,630 --> 01:32:30,070
FBI has all those Epstein videos.

2813
01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:32,050
They are reviewing them as we speak.

2814
01:32:32,150 --> 01:32:36,510
There are tens of thousands of videos of

2815
01:32:36,510 --> 01:32:37,290
Epstein.

2816
01:32:37,730 --> 01:32:39,830
And there are hundreds of victims.

2817
01:32:40,430 --> 01:32:43,470
And no one victim will ever get released.

2818
01:32:43,470 --> 01:32:44,450
It's just the volume.

2819
01:32:44,650 --> 01:32:46,270
And that's what they're going through right now.

2820
01:32:46,330 --> 01:32:49,030
The FBI is diligently going through that.

2821
01:32:49,530 --> 01:32:51,750
Ah, the FBI is going through the videos

2822
01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:52,410
diligently.

2823
01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:55,810
And all of a sudden, Whoopi and Joy

2824
01:32:55,810 --> 01:32:56,510
are protesting.

2825
01:32:57,690 --> 01:32:58,610
I'm just saying.

2826
01:32:59,010 --> 01:32:59,750
I'm just saying.

2827
01:32:59,950 --> 01:33:00,950
They're not getting...

2828
01:33:00,950 --> 01:33:01,090
They're...

2829
01:33:01,090 --> 01:33:02,730
Those two, come on.

2830
01:33:03,310 --> 01:33:03,750
What?

2831
01:33:03,850 --> 01:33:05,050
They could have been clients.

2832
01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:06,110
Oh.

2833
01:33:06,530 --> 01:33:06,750
Yeah.

2834
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:09,710
You don't know what kind of wacky they

2835
01:33:09,710 --> 01:33:09,950
get up to.

2836
01:33:09,950 --> 01:33:10,350
You're right.

2837
01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:10,890
You're right.

2838
01:33:10,970 --> 01:33:11,910
The couple of weirdos.

2839
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:12,910
Wacky they get up to.

2840
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:17,710
But Bondi and this...

2841
01:33:17,710 --> 01:33:18,910
Oh, this is the latest.

2842
01:33:19,190 --> 01:33:19,370
Okay.

2843
01:33:19,490 --> 01:33:20,070
Well, they...

2844
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:23,090
After she released the bogus flight logs that

2845
01:33:23,090 --> 01:33:23,970
have already been out.

2846
01:33:24,250 --> 01:33:24,350
Yeah.

2847
01:33:24,690 --> 01:33:25,730
Now she's got...

2848
01:33:25,730 --> 01:33:27,450
Oh, we got a million tapes and we're

2849
01:33:27,450 --> 01:33:28,050
going through them.

2850
01:33:28,170 --> 01:33:28,890
Taking time.

2851
01:33:29,090 --> 01:33:29,830
It's taking time.

2852
01:33:29,930 --> 01:33:30,730
She's taking time.

2853
01:33:31,410 --> 01:33:32,010
It's taking time.

2854
01:33:32,130 --> 01:33:33,410
This is never...

2855
01:33:33,410 --> 01:33:33,850
This is...

2856
01:33:33,850 --> 01:33:37,750
They either have nothing or the blackmail is

2857
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:38,570
too good.

2858
01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:39,050
A lot.

2859
01:33:39,350 --> 01:33:39,770
Yeah.

2860
01:33:39,810 --> 01:33:41,850
They have good stuff here that can be

2861
01:33:41,850 --> 01:33:42,250
used.

2862
01:33:42,350 --> 01:33:42,750
Yeah.

2863
01:33:42,750 --> 01:33:45,430
The meeting would be, well, what do you

2864
01:33:45,430 --> 01:33:46,430
think we should do with this?

2865
01:33:46,510 --> 01:33:47,390
So-and-so's on this.

2866
01:33:47,570 --> 01:33:48,510
Look at what he's doing.

2867
01:33:49,290 --> 01:33:52,710
Well, you know, we need his vote for

2868
01:33:52,710 --> 01:33:53,470
the upcoming...

2869
01:33:54,570 --> 01:33:55,930
Yeah, for the tax bill.

2870
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:57,490
For the tax bill.

2871
01:33:57,570 --> 01:33:58,290
What do you think?

2872
01:33:58,710 --> 01:34:00,330
Do we want his vote or do we

2873
01:34:00,330 --> 01:34:02,190
want to just get him out of office

2874
01:34:02,190 --> 01:34:03,470
or get him to quit?

2875
01:34:03,650 --> 01:34:04,190
Well, that...

2876
01:34:04,190 --> 01:34:05,550
I think the vote would be useful.

2877
01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:06,910
Can we do both?

2878
01:34:07,010 --> 01:34:08,830
But if you lose the guy, then that

2879
01:34:08,830 --> 01:34:11,470
is technically one vote less on the opposition.

2880
01:34:11,470 --> 01:34:13,050
I mean, it could work both ways.

2881
01:34:13,570 --> 01:34:14,990
There's all kinds of ways it can work.

2882
01:34:15,090 --> 01:34:16,370
You have to make these decisions.

2883
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:17,950
It takes a lot of effort and a

2884
01:34:17,950 --> 01:34:18,550
lot of thinking.

2885
01:34:20,190 --> 01:34:22,150
Meanwhile, the public gets nothing.

2886
01:34:22,230 --> 01:34:23,670
It will never get anything.

2887
01:34:23,770 --> 01:34:24,710
No, we did get something.

2888
01:34:25,010 --> 01:34:25,610
We got something.

2889
01:34:25,710 --> 01:34:27,390
We got Operation Restore Justice.

2890
01:34:27,730 --> 01:34:28,150
Oh, yeah.

2891
01:34:29,530 --> 01:34:31,830
It's A.G. Barbie and Ken Patel.

2892
01:34:32,050 --> 01:34:34,690
These are the images Chicago's FBI office shared

2893
01:34:34,690 --> 01:34:37,770
only with WGN Investigates of the nights that

2894
01:34:37,770 --> 01:34:39,970
led up to Operation Restore Justice.

2895
01:34:39,970 --> 01:34:43,390
The large-scale effort went after people accused

2896
01:34:43,390 --> 01:34:44,830
of child sex offenses.

2897
01:34:45,090 --> 01:34:47,530
Many of them believed to find their targets

2898
01:34:47,530 --> 01:34:48,250
online.

2899
01:34:48,610 --> 01:34:49,870
The worst of the worst.

2900
01:34:50,370 --> 01:34:53,070
The people that hide behind a computer and

2901
01:34:53,070 --> 01:34:55,130
target our young children.

2902
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:58,450
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi promising to

2903
01:34:58,450 --> 01:35:00,470
seek the maximum penalty possible.

2904
01:35:00,910 --> 01:35:04,010
The accusations range from receiving child pornography to

2905
01:35:04,010 --> 01:35:06,190
creating it to sex trafficking.

2906
01:35:06,190 --> 01:35:08,730
And according to this federal complaint, one of

2907
01:35:08,730 --> 01:35:11,550
the men arrested in Chicago's northwest side, William

2908
01:35:11,550 --> 01:35:14,030
Solis, is believed to have purchased more than

2909
01:35:14,030 --> 01:35:16,370
a thousand pornographic child images.

2910
01:35:16,930 --> 01:35:18,990
Some of the victims pictured as young as

2911
01:35:18,990 --> 01:35:20,130
four years old.

2912
01:35:20,590 --> 01:35:22,910
That's one case, but there are hundreds of

2913
01:35:22,910 --> 01:35:23,190
others.

2914
01:35:23,570 --> 01:35:25,930
At least one arrest included people who had

2915
01:35:25,930 --> 01:35:27,210
won the public's trust.

2916
01:35:27,650 --> 01:35:31,150
In Minneapolis, defendant Jeremy Francis Plonsky, a Minneapolis

2917
01:35:31,150 --> 01:35:34,350
state trooper and former Army reservist, was arrested

2918
01:35:34,350 --> 01:35:37,830
for producing child sexual abuse material while in

2919
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:38,250
uniform.

2920
01:35:38,530 --> 01:35:41,470
The Federal Bureau of Investigation in the cases

2921
01:35:41,470 --> 01:35:45,190
with 55 FBI offices around the country playing

2922
01:35:45,190 --> 01:35:48,470
a role, making it clear that abuses involving

2923
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:50,670
children will take a top priority.

2924
01:35:51,170 --> 01:35:54,010
Children and their families now have a chance

2925
01:35:54,010 --> 01:35:55,110
to heal.

2926
01:35:55,350 --> 01:35:58,070
These are online predators.

2927
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:59,310
Think about this.

2928
01:36:00,670 --> 01:36:02,170
115 victims.

2929
01:36:02,650 --> 01:36:03,170
Victims.

2930
01:36:03,790 --> 01:36:04,190
Children.

2931
01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:07,950
In five days, we were able to help.

2932
01:36:08,130 --> 01:36:10,150
Internet digital ID incoming.

2933
01:36:10,450 --> 01:36:11,070
Warning, warning.

2934
01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:12,610
She's all in.

2935
01:36:13,450 --> 01:36:14,250
She loves it.

2936
01:36:15,770 --> 01:36:18,090
Well, I'm glad that they stopped this, but

2937
01:36:18,090 --> 01:36:19,530
I'm sure that's a spit in the bucket

2938
01:36:19,530 --> 01:36:20,690
of what's really going on.

2939
01:36:20,750 --> 01:36:22,290
It's just horrendous.

2940
01:36:23,110 --> 01:36:24,250
The Internet's no good.

2941
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:26,470
No, the Internet is no good.

2942
01:36:26,590 --> 01:36:27,230
No, it's no good.

2943
01:36:27,230 --> 01:36:28,610
Why are they buying porn?

2944
01:36:28,710 --> 01:36:29,710
Can't they get it for free?

2945
01:36:30,690 --> 01:36:31,950
Not this kind of porn.

2946
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:35,590
These are sick individuals, man.

2947
01:36:35,690 --> 01:36:37,510
They are very sick.

2948
01:36:40,770 --> 01:36:42,870
And it's happened here in Fredericksburg.

2949
01:36:43,550 --> 01:36:44,890
A guy who was a...

2950
01:36:44,890 --> 01:36:45,110
What?

2951
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:45,930
Oh, yeah.

2952
01:36:45,970 --> 01:36:49,270
A guy who was a driver, like a

2953
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:50,010
car service.

2954
01:36:50,590 --> 01:36:52,390
He got arrested and he was in possession

2955
01:36:52,390 --> 01:36:54,250
of all kinds of sick kiddie porn.

2956
01:36:55,650 --> 01:36:56,130
Yeah.

2957
01:36:58,030 --> 01:36:59,810
You have no idea how...

2958
01:36:59,810 --> 01:37:02,230
Since you've been, you know, indoors for 40

2959
01:37:02,230 --> 01:37:03,430
years, it's gotten pretty...

2960
01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:03,970
I can't get out.

2961
01:37:04,130 --> 01:37:05,310
I got to go out.

2962
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:06,550
You got to get out more often.

2963
01:37:06,550 --> 01:37:07,930
I have to go to Costco.

2964
01:37:08,470 --> 01:37:10,370
You got to get out more often, man.

2965
01:37:10,730 --> 01:37:12,090
Stuff is going on.

2966
01:37:12,250 --> 01:37:13,290
It's not okay.

2967
01:37:15,250 --> 01:37:16,310
It's really bad.

2968
01:37:16,450 --> 01:37:16,730
All right.

2969
01:37:17,390 --> 01:37:21,170
This was probably the most fun clip of

2970
01:37:21,170 --> 01:37:24,270
the week for me, was the new prime

2971
01:37:24,270 --> 01:37:27,130
minister, and I guess for now, you never

2972
01:37:27,130 --> 01:37:28,870
know, it might not last all that long,

2973
01:37:29,150 --> 01:37:29,750
of Canada.

2974
01:37:30,150 --> 01:37:32,190
Premier, premier, prime minister, whatever.

2975
01:37:32,650 --> 01:37:36,490
The head man, former banker Carney, comes to

2976
01:37:36,490 --> 01:37:38,730
the White House, meets with President Trump, and

2977
01:37:38,730 --> 01:37:39,950
hilarity ensued.

2978
01:37:40,350 --> 01:37:42,950
Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney made his first

2979
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:44,770
visit to the White House since winning last

2980
01:37:44,770 --> 01:37:46,890
week's election to meet with U.S. President

2981
01:37:46,890 --> 01:37:47,730
Donald Trump.

2982
01:37:48,030 --> 01:37:50,810
The meeting came against the of disagreements and

2983
01:37:50,810 --> 01:37:53,110
high tensions between the North American neighbor.

2984
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:55,870
Trump had spent months musing about turning Canada

2985
01:37:55,870 --> 01:37:58,010
into the 51st U.S. state, and it

2986
01:37:58,010 --> 01:38:00,010
wasn't long until a reporter in the Oval

2987
01:38:00,010 --> 01:38:01,870
Office asked him if he was still interested

2988
01:38:01,870 --> 01:38:02,630
in doing so.

2989
01:38:02,670 --> 01:38:04,630
When you get rid of that artificially drawn

2990
01:38:04,630 --> 01:38:06,630
line, somebody drew that line many years ago

2991
01:38:06,630 --> 01:38:08,690
with like a ruler, just a straight line

2992
01:38:08,690 --> 01:38:10,250
right across the top of the country.

2993
01:38:10,570 --> 01:38:13,130
When you look at that beautiful formation when

2994
01:38:13,130 --> 01:38:16,910
it's together, I'm a very artistic person, but

2995
01:38:16,910 --> 01:38:18,970
when I looked at that that's the way

2996
01:38:18,970 --> 01:38:19,750
it was meant to be.

2997
01:38:20,190 --> 01:38:24,290
But I do feel it's much better for

2998
01:38:24,290 --> 01:38:27,170
Canada, but we're not going to be discussing

2999
01:38:27,170 --> 01:38:29,050
that unless somebody wants to discuss it.

3000
01:38:29,330 --> 01:38:30,130
Thank you very much.

3001
01:38:30,270 --> 01:38:32,710
Carney responded resolutely to Trump's remarks.

3002
01:38:33,770 --> 01:38:37,530
Well, if I may, as you know from

3003
01:38:37,530 --> 01:38:40,110
real estate, there are some places that are

3004
01:38:40,110 --> 01:38:40,770
never for sale.

3005
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:41,230
That's true.

3006
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:44,070
We're sitting in one right now, Buckingham Palace,

3007
01:38:44,170 --> 01:38:45,130
you visited as well.

3008
01:38:45,130 --> 01:38:49,230
And having met with the owners of Canada

3009
01:38:49,230 --> 01:38:51,530
over the course of the campaign last several

3010
01:38:51,530 --> 01:38:53,950
months, it's not for sale, won't be for

3011
01:38:53,950 --> 01:38:55,070
sale ever.

3012
01:38:55,190 --> 01:38:57,570
The two leaders discussed what Carney said was

3013
01:38:57,570 --> 01:38:59,830
a wide range of topics, chief among them

3014
01:38:59,830 --> 01:39:02,330
trade, amid Trump's global tariff policies.

3015
01:39:02,750 --> 01:39:04,790
I was surprised by President Trump's answer.

3016
01:39:04,930 --> 01:39:08,210
Isn't by definition, if you're in the business,

3017
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:10,450
everything's for sale as long as the price

3018
01:39:10,450 --> 01:39:10,870
is right?

3019
01:39:11,770 --> 01:39:13,970
Yeah, he did kind of, he didn't want

3020
01:39:13,970 --> 01:39:14,870
to talk about it.

3021
01:39:15,170 --> 01:39:18,050
And also, what is Canada's version of Buckingham

3022
01:39:18,050 --> 01:39:19,050
Palace or the White House?

3023
01:39:20,690 --> 01:39:20,870
Huh?

3024
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:23,450
Well, they have their...

3025
01:39:23,450 --> 01:39:24,170
Yeah, exactly.

3026
01:39:24,490 --> 01:39:25,970
They have some buildings.

3027
01:39:27,610 --> 01:39:28,090
What?

3028
01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:29,210
What building?

3029
01:39:29,530 --> 01:39:30,350
An ice hockey rink?

3030
01:39:30,850 --> 01:39:32,750
I've been in these buildings, they're pretty nice.

3031
01:39:33,050 --> 01:39:35,450
Buckingham, doesn't Buckingham Palace own Canada?

3032
01:39:36,170 --> 01:39:37,050
Kind of on the down low?

3033
01:39:37,050 --> 01:39:38,990
I think it's in some kind of technical

3034
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:39,630
way.

3035
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:40,230
Yeah, on the down low.

3036
01:39:40,230 --> 01:39:42,550
You didn't get, which I guess I could

3037
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:44,030
have clipped, but I didn't, which is that

3038
01:39:44,030 --> 01:39:46,290
I thought the most interesting thing was Trump

3039
01:39:46,290 --> 01:39:48,250
did take credit for Carney's election.

3040
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:50,310
Um, I, well...

3041
01:39:51,310 --> 01:39:52,510
He was right at the beginning, he says,

3042
01:39:52,590 --> 01:39:54,410
you know, he's just joking around.

3043
01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:56,830
He says, you know, he wanted a big

3044
01:39:56,830 --> 01:39:59,890
comeback, biggest comeback election since mine.

3045
01:40:00,290 --> 01:40:01,830
And then, you know, because I kind of

3046
01:40:01,830 --> 01:40:02,650
feel responsible.

3047
01:40:02,650 --> 01:40:04,270
I kind of got him elected.

3048
01:40:05,190 --> 01:40:06,710
Well, I do have a couple of NPR

3049
01:40:06,710 --> 01:40:08,770
clips about this meeting, if you want to

3050
01:40:08,770 --> 01:40:09,370
indulge.

3051
01:40:10,930 --> 01:40:11,930
Might as well.

3052
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,140
President Trump is hosting Canadian Prime Minister Mark

3053
01:40:17,140 --> 01:40:18,100
Carney at the White House.

3054
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:20,740
Trump's choice of words and his policies have

3055
01:40:20,740 --> 01:40:22,600
played a role in Canada's election.

3056
01:40:22,820 --> 01:40:24,460
So what has Carney been saying about Trump

3057
01:40:24,460 --> 01:40:25,180
and the US?

3058
01:40:25,500 --> 01:40:26,780
Hey, yeah, so the thing to keep in

3059
01:40:26,780 --> 01:40:28,960
mind about Carney is that he won this

3060
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,200
election running with an anti-Trump message.

3061
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,980
Canadians were voting as Trump was ramping up

3062
01:40:33,980 --> 01:40:36,560
his tariff war, and Canada's economy is highly

3063
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,440
dependent on exports to the US.

3064
01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:41,760
Trump doesn't like that Canada sells more than

3065
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:42,140
it buys.

3066
01:40:42,540 --> 01:40:44,520
And like you heard in that NBC interview,

3067
01:40:44,700 --> 01:40:45,160
that clip you...

3068
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,520
You shouldn't like it either, lady, but OK.

3069
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:48,220
Just played.

3070
01:40:48,540 --> 01:40:50,640
Trump continues to say he wants to make

3071
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:52,920
Canada into America's 51st state.

3072
01:40:53,060 --> 01:40:55,060
So the election there was seen as a

3073
01:40:55,060 --> 01:40:56,380
referendum against Trump.

3074
01:40:56,940 --> 01:40:59,340
Carney has a background in banking and has

3075
01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:01,560
never held an elected position before.

3076
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,840
And he ran with the argument that Canada

3077
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,000
needs to forge its own path and be

3078
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:07,340
less reliant on the US.

3079
01:41:07,340 --> 01:41:08,820
I love NPR.

3080
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:10,520
He has a background in banking.

3081
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,700
He was the central banker of England.

3082
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:14,620
Come on.

3083
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:16,200
He ran the Bank of England.

3084
01:41:16,780 --> 01:41:18,580
That's not just a background in banking.

3085
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,040
It's a little more than a background.

3086
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:20,760
So...

3087
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,960
And he had some very strong words about

3088
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,100
President Trump because he's a real fighter, this

3089
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:26,780
guy, this Carney, according to NPR.

3090
01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:29,300
Yeah, so Carney hasn't been really shying away

3091
01:41:29,300 --> 01:41:30,360
from Trump's rhetoric at all.

3092
01:41:30,540 --> 01:41:31,080
Yeah, exactly.

3093
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:32,660
I mean, here's what Carney said on election

3094
01:41:32,660 --> 01:41:32,900
night.

3095
01:41:32,900 --> 01:41:37,920
America wants our land, our resources, our water,

3096
01:41:38,180 --> 01:41:38,980
our country.

3097
01:41:39,220 --> 01:41:40,040
We want your water.

3098
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:41,920
Never.

3099
01:41:43,380 --> 01:41:44,820
Do you want Canadian water?

3100
01:41:45,220 --> 01:41:47,100
Is that better than our Arrowhead Lake?

3101
01:41:47,300 --> 01:41:48,760
I don't know if we want your water.

3102
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:50,320
Never.

3103
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,220
These are not.

3104
01:41:52,540 --> 01:41:54,400
These are not idle threats.

3105
01:41:54,660 --> 01:41:54,820
No.

3106
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,080
President Trump is trying to break us so

3107
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,080
that America can own us.

3108
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,220
It's typical for new Canadian prime ministers to

3109
01:42:04,220 --> 01:42:06,080
make their first foreign trip to the U

3110
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,560
.S., but Carney instead chose to go to

3111
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:08,840
Europe.

3112
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:10,620
And that sends a certain message.

3113
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:11,760
That sounds like it might.

3114
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,500
Given the contentious climate, then how is this

3115
01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:15,480
meeting supposed to go?

3116
01:42:15,740 --> 01:42:17,380
So I talked to Asa McChurchir.

3117
01:42:17,500 --> 01:42:19,860
He's a professor of public policy at St.

3118
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,260
Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia.

3119
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:22,700
Dynamite.

3120
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,260
And he says Carney has to play this

3121
01:42:24,260 --> 01:42:26,480
balancing act, right, of standing up for Canada,

3122
01:42:26,620 --> 01:42:29,300
but also not irking Trump, which is kind

3123
01:42:29,300 --> 01:42:29,700
of tricky.

3124
01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:31,660
But he says Carney could have a less

3125
01:42:31,660 --> 01:42:34,680
conflicted relationship with Trump compared to his predecessor,

3126
01:42:34,900 --> 01:42:37,300
Justin Trudeau, who Trump often mocked.

3127
01:42:37,660 --> 01:42:38,700
There seems to be a different tone of

3128
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:40,820
emphasis, I think, with Mark Carney as prime

3129
01:42:40,820 --> 01:42:41,360
minister now.

3130
01:42:41,660 --> 01:42:43,140
Obviously, Mr. Trump's still talking to the 51st

3131
01:42:43,140 --> 01:42:44,860
state, but he's not called him Governor Carney.

3132
01:42:45,580 --> 01:42:46,460
You know, he's called him a very nice

3133
01:42:46,460 --> 01:42:46,860
man.

3134
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:51,520
And I think Mr. Carney certainly looks like

3135
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,280
kind of a nerdy central bank kind of

3136
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:54,600
guy.

3137
01:42:54,700 --> 01:42:56,140
And I think for Mr. Trump, who obviously

3138
01:42:56,140 --> 01:42:59,040
likes kind of central casting figures, don't think

3139
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,840
Mr. Carney looks that part.

3140
01:43:01,060 --> 01:43:03,080
And he also says that the meeting might

3141
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,040
be a chance for Trump and Carney to

3142
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:05,900
kind of have a reset.

3143
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,880
So they bring in the expert who is

3144
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,440
a professor and his whole analysis is Trump

3145
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:13,180
thinks the guy looks the right part.

3146
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,140
Yeah, that's that's that's analysis.

3147
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:17,080
That's analysis.

3148
01:43:17,300 --> 01:43:19,140
Well, of course, the final clip kind of

3149
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:21,840
says that Canada does need the United States.

3150
01:43:21,980 --> 01:43:22,080
Yeah.

3151
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,480
But Carney himself has said that the old

3152
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:26,300
relationship between the US and Canada is over.

3153
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:28,600
Yeah, you know, it's a pretty unprecedented thing

3154
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,680
to say, but it speaks to how much

3155
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,380
relations have soured since Trump's tariff war.

3156
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,500
Carney told Canadian reporters a few days ago,

3157
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,520
and not to expect white smoke out of

3158
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,000
this meeting on a new trade deal.

3159
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:41,880
And, you know, he's referencing the smoke signal

3160
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,280
that goes up when a new pope is

3161
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:43,600
chosen.

3162
01:43:43,820 --> 01:43:45,820
So he's already tempering expectations.

3163
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,440
But, you know, at the same time, Canada

3164
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:50,040
is already looking for new, more reliable trading

3165
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:50,380
partners.

3166
01:43:50,660 --> 01:43:53,060
There's reports that South Korean companies are pitching

3167
01:43:53,060 --> 01:43:55,740
sales of military equipment to Canada, which is

3168
01:43:55,740 --> 01:43:58,060
significant because in the past, Canada's gotten most

3169
01:43:58,060 --> 01:43:59,800
of their defense products from the US.

3170
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,320
Ah, there you go.

3171
01:44:02,140 --> 01:44:06,720
Once again, you need us, our defense products.

3172
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:08,040
Yeah.

3173
01:44:08,220 --> 01:44:09,760
And that's what the deal is all about.

3174
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,480
Of course, it's pretty obvious when you watch.

3175
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:12,860
I watched the thing from the beginning.

3176
01:44:12,940 --> 01:44:14,400
I just caught it right at the beginning.

3177
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:15,840
Watch the whole thing.

3178
01:44:15,900 --> 01:44:16,760
It's boring.

3179
01:44:17,140 --> 01:44:18,420
And then everyone's yelling.

3180
01:44:18,580 --> 01:44:20,340
Carney is there looking left and right because

3181
01:44:20,340 --> 01:44:22,460
all the reporters are yelling and screaming like

3182
01:44:22,460 --> 01:44:23,320
maniacs.

3183
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,320
And so he's thought it was kind of

3184
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:25,740
amusing.

3185
01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:27,940
He got to speak three times, I think.

3186
01:44:28,540 --> 01:44:30,320
And they were all conciliatory.

3187
01:44:30,580 --> 01:44:32,100
And Trump is really nice.

3188
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:33,240
And there was conciliatory.

3189
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:34,840
There was a couple of jokes about the

3190
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:35,880
51st state.

3191
01:44:36,300 --> 01:44:38,300
But that didn't go very far.

3192
01:44:38,580 --> 01:44:39,860
And he didn't want to talk about it,

3193
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:40,300
obviously.

3194
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,140
And then he just stopped it at some

3195
01:44:45,140 --> 01:44:45,440
point.

3196
01:44:45,580 --> 01:44:46,880
He just stopped.

3197
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:48,160
Because Carney was trying to get in one

3198
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:49,760
last comment.

3199
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,460
He kept moving his hand toward Trump.

3200
01:44:52,460 --> 01:44:53,640
I want to speak.

3201
01:44:53,740 --> 01:44:54,200
I want to speak.

3202
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,840
And Trump would let him speak when he

3203
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:57,560
felt like it.

3204
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,240
But at the end, when he's going to

3205
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,800
want to say some party words, Trump just

3206
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:02,900
killed the press conference.

3207
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:03,860
Very interesting.

3208
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:04,840
That's what you do.

3209
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:06,940
Boots on the ground for one of our

3210
01:45:06,940 --> 01:45:07,300
producers.

3211
01:45:07,460 --> 01:45:10,140
I vacation in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada recently.

3212
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:11,720
At a bar, I asked for an old

3213
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,200
fashioned.

3214
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:14,860
The bartender replied in a huff.

3215
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,920
We can't make you that.

3216
01:45:17,540 --> 01:45:18,560
We can't make you that.

3217
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,800
We got rid of all bourbon and any

3218
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,740
American alcohol because of your tariffs.

3219
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,160
I politely accepted and asked for a Coors

3220
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,120
and was given one with no issue.

3221
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:32,080
That's funny.

3222
01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:36,520
We would be great with Canada together.

3223
01:45:36,780 --> 01:45:37,880
I think we'd be.

3224
01:45:38,260 --> 01:45:38,720
You know what?

3225
01:45:38,740 --> 01:45:40,360
What Trump did do is he did something

3226
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:41,380
very good for Canada.

3227
01:45:41,580 --> 01:45:42,040
You don't want Canada.

3228
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,840
I just I've said it before.

3229
01:45:43,980 --> 01:45:44,460
I'll say it again.

3230
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:45,220
You don't want Canada.

3231
01:45:45,380 --> 01:45:46,340
Don't want Canada.

3232
01:45:46,340 --> 01:45:49,180
But what he did do is he reignited

3233
01:45:49,180 --> 01:45:51,060
Canadian national pride.

3234
01:45:51,180 --> 01:45:52,720
And I think that that should be recognized.

3235
01:45:52,900 --> 01:45:53,460
It's a good thing.

3236
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:54,980
Canada, you kind of lost that.

3237
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:56,900
He kind of took credit for a lot

3238
01:45:56,900 --> 01:45:57,760
of stuff when he was.

3239
01:45:58,500 --> 01:45:59,800
I think I agree.

3240
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:01,880
I think Canada should have its own pride

3241
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:05,120
because the Canadian personality is different.

3242
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:07,340
They're more curt.

3243
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,240
They complain unlike they complain in a different

3244
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:12,240
way than we do.

3245
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:14,400
They complain a lot.

3246
01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:14,920
They're bitter.

3247
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,220
They're funnier than we are in general.

3248
01:46:18,860 --> 01:46:19,200
Oh, really?

3249
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:20,880
Which I think is I think so.

3250
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,700
Some of the best comedians in the world

3251
01:46:22,700 --> 01:46:23,780
all came from Canada.

3252
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:24,320
Definitely good.

3253
01:46:24,460 --> 01:46:25,500
Well, name five.

3254
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:29,000
Martin Short.

3255
01:46:29,180 --> 01:46:29,860
Okay, one.

3256
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:30,760
There's one.

3257
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,900
All the guys on SCTV, which include the

3258
01:46:35,900 --> 01:46:38,500
Levi, Levi, Levi.

3259
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:39,820
You're already floundering.

3260
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,700
I'm trying to get their names.

3261
01:46:42,780 --> 01:46:43,860
I can give you six bands.

3262
01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:45,900
The woman who is in Home Alone.

3263
01:46:48,220 --> 01:46:50,560
Oh, I loved her set.

3264
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:52,720
Hey, who did you go see last night?

3265
01:46:52,780 --> 01:46:54,140
The woman who's in Home Alone.

3266
01:46:54,660 --> 01:46:55,840
Come on, Canadian trolls.

3267
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:57,080
You know who I'm talking about.

3268
01:46:58,740 --> 01:47:00,260
But Norm Macdonald.

3269
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:01,400
I'll give you Norm Macdonald.

3270
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:02,900
Okay, that's four.

3271
01:47:03,060 --> 01:47:03,720
No, that's two.

3272
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:04,460
It's two.

3273
01:47:04,580 --> 01:47:05,540
You've given me two names.

3274
01:47:05,540 --> 01:47:06,920
Martin Short, Norm Macdonald.

3275
01:47:07,660 --> 01:47:09,260
Names, names, names.

3276
01:47:09,740 --> 01:47:10,060
Levi.

3277
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:12,120
John Candy.

3278
01:47:12,220 --> 01:47:12,800
Was he Canadian?

3279
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:13,600
Yeah.

3280
01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:14,600
Okay, three.

3281
01:47:17,050 --> 01:47:17,390
Yeah.

3282
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:19,450
I can give you five bands Eric Clapton

3283
01:47:19,450 --> 01:47:20,030
played in.

3284
01:47:20,910 --> 01:47:21,870
I don't care.

3285
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:23,150
I'm just saying.

3286
01:47:23,450 --> 01:47:24,430
Does that got to do with the price

3287
01:47:24,430 --> 01:47:24,870
of bread?

3288
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:26,870
You said all the great comedians come from

3289
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:27,050
there.

3290
01:47:27,050 --> 01:47:29,090
No, I didn't say all the great comedians.

3291
01:47:29,210 --> 01:47:30,070
I said a lot.

3292
01:47:30,170 --> 01:47:31,370
They have a better sense of humor than

3293
01:47:31,370 --> 01:47:31,650
we do.

3294
01:47:31,730 --> 01:47:33,850
And a lot of comedians came from Canada.

3295
01:47:34,450 --> 01:47:35,270
Mike Myers.

3296
01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:36,730
Mike Myers.

3297
01:47:36,970 --> 01:47:39,710
If you start looking down the list, you

3298
01:47:39,710 --> 01:47:40,730
find a lot.

3299
01:47:40,830 --> 01:47:41,630
Oh, you mean Eugene Levy?

3300
01:47:41,850 --> 01:47:42,510
No, that's the guy.

3301
01:47:42,590 --> 01:47:43,050
Yeah, yeah.

3302
01:47:43,110 --> 01:47:44,470
Eugene Levy's from Canada.

3303
01:47:44,490 --> 01:47:47,110
And his son, the gay son.

3304
01:47:48,590 --> 01:47:49,690
And the gay Levy.

3305
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:50,870
Okay, I got it.

3306
01:47:50,990 --> 01:47:51,350
The gay Levy.

3307
01:47:51,690 --> 01:47:51,990
Five.

3308
01:47:52,230 --> 01:47:52,690
You made it.

3309
01:47:52,890 --> 01:47:53,330
Congratulations.

3310
01:47:54,490 --> 01:47:55,070
You made five.

3311
01:47:56,710 --> 01:47:58,050
I think Defense as a Service.

3312
01:47:58,270 --> 01:47:58,770
Rick Moranis.

3313
01:47:58,890 --> 01:47:59,610
Rick Moranis is from Canada.

3314
01:47:59,630 --> 01:48:01,730
What has he done for me lately?

3315
01:48:02,150 --> 01:48:04,250
The shrink the kids guy.

3316
01:48:04,490 --> 01:48:06,190
That was 22 years ago.

3317
01:48:07,010 --> 01:48:08,450
Honey, I shrunk the kids.

3318
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:15,480
Defense as a Service.

3319
01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:17,920
I think that's what's on the President's mind.

3320
01:48:18,020 --> 01:48:18,600
Defense as a Service.

3321
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,000
That's what's on his mind.

3322
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:22,620
That's actually, you nailed it.

3323
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:23,640
Defense as a Service.

3324
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:24,560
That's what it is.

3325
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,820
Like, hey, we're here for you, Canada.

3326
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,160
But monthly fee.

3327
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:30,660
Yes.

3328
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:31,960
Have you read the EULA?

3329
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:34,720
Did you write, did you sign the license?

3330
01:48:34,900 --> 01:48:35,840
Did you read the EULA?

3331
01:48:38,540 --> 01:48:39,020
DOS.

3332
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:41,040
DOS.

3333
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:42,120
Defense as a Service.

3334
01:48:42,580 --> 01:48:43,200
All right.

3335
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:44,340
Speaking of defense.

3336
01:48:45,140 --> 01:48:47,500
We have new information in SignalGate.

3337
01:48:49,480 --> 01:48:52,120
This comes from the Last American Vagabond.

3338
01:48:53,020 --> 01:48:56,600
Ray Christian explains what really happened.

3339
01:48:56,820 --> 01:48:57,740
This is very important.

3340
01:48:58,020 --> 01:49:00,700
And by the way, this is very important.

3341
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,200
This is very important.

3342
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:04,020
This is because of the use of what

3343
01:49:04,020 --> 01:49:06,540
Mike Walsh was caught using of what's called

3344
01:49:06,540 --> 01:49:10,120
TeleMessage, which is an Israeli intelligence-linked, essentially

3345
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:10,780
an archive.

3346
01:49:11,420 --> 01:49:14,100
Like, it's like you connect it with your

3347
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:16,460
signal and it archives your signal conversations and

3348
01:49:16,460 --> 01:49:18,320
everybody involved with them and sends it back

3349
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,640
to the cloud or, in this case, Israeli

3350
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:21,040
servers.

3351
01:49:21,580 --> 01:49:22,480
That's what this is about.

3352
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:24,160
And they had to move Mike Walsh out

3353
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:25,320
of the way because he's one of the

3354
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:29,900
most prolifically outspoken Zionists, all about Israel, which

3355
01:49:29,900 --> 01:49:31,440
probably is most of Trump's cabinet.

3356
01:49:32,140 --> 01:49:34,700
And so if they're all using this, even

3357
01:49:34,700 --> 01:49:37,460
just Signal, by the way, and are compromising

3358
01:49:37,460 --> 01:49:39,960
in possible ways with that, but overlapping that

3359
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:41,840
with the TeleMessage dynamic, which they all seem

3360
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:42,380
to be using.

3361
01:49:43,220 --> 01:49:43,320
Dynamic.

3362
01:49:43,540 --> 01:49:45,900
Realistically, this just seems like Israel's just completely

3363
01:49:45,900 --> 01:49:47,880
tapped into every function of the current executive

3364
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:48,200
branch.

3365
01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:49,370
Or maybe all of it.

3366
01:49:49,980 --> 01:49:52,180
I mean, it's absolutely mind-blowing how this

3367
01:49:52,180 --> 01:49:53,660
is coming out, and the focus is on

3368
01:49:53,660 --> 01:49:54,740
anything but that.

3369
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,200
From the Last American Vagabond podcast.

3370
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:05,360
So, besides the very overt Israel Jew hate,

3371
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:06,960
there's a Zionist.

3372
01:50:08,020 --> 01:50:08,700
I use Signal.

3373
01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:12,600
I have not found this archive service.

3374
01:50:13,460 --> 01:50:14,920
So is that something that you can set

3375
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:15,560
up yourself?

3376
01:50:16,460 --> 01:50:17,140
Is it?

3377
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,080
You're asking me?

3378
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:19,640
I don't know.

3379
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:20,520
You don't use Signal?

3380
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:21,700
Oh, no, I use Signal.

3381
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,520
What am I going to use it for?

3382
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,040
For your secret messages with your lover.

3383
01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:28,360
What lover?

3384
01:50:28,540 --> 01:50:29,480
I don't know.

3385
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:31,520
I always presumed you had one.

3386
01:50:32,140 --> 01:50:34,480
Well, maybe I might have more than one.

3387
01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:35,480
Well, there you go.

3388
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:36,920
Mark Pugner.

3389
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:39,380
Hey, baby.

3390
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:40,580
It's Mark Pugner here.

3391
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:42,580
You got Signal?

3392
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,420
Chet Grouch, he gets all the action.

3393
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:47,360
You got Signal, baby.

3394
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:50,560
Today is actually...

3395
01:50:52,460 --> 01:50:53,760
I use WhatsApp.

3396
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:54,960
I don't use that either.

3397
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:56,180
Well, Signal is...

3398
01:50:56,180 --> 01:50:57,960
I should probably learn how to use these

3399
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,380
things just so I could use them.

3400
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,100
Signal is basically an open source version, or

3401
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:05,060
I thought it was an open source version

3402
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:05,660
of WhatsApp.

3403
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,560
It's the same protocol, in essence.

3404
01:51:08,440 --> 01:51:10,460
What's the difference between using that and I

3405
01:51:10,460 --> 01:51:13,180
use Google Voice to do phone messages?

3406
01:51:13,740 --> 01:51:17,240
Well, obviously, Google Voice goes through Google.

3407
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,800
And Google is pretty open about everything.

3408
01:51:20,940 --> 01:51:24,800
They read your Gmail to help you for

3409
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,120
your protection and to give you ads and

3410
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:27,440
stuff.

3411
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:32,500
I love people that use voice to text.

3412
01:51:32,500 --> 01:51:33,780
That's not a problem.

3413
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,500
Do you think your phone's doing that?

3414
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,400
By the way, the voice to text on

3415
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:41,980
the phone, you've seen it where they say,

3416
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:45,220
Oh, Grandpa, I play second base.

3417
01:51:45,380 --> 01:51:46,980
Oh, that's what my granddad...

3418
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:47,800
Do you ever see that commercial?

3419
01:51:48,420 --> 01:51:51,140
That's the free phone you can get on

3420
01:51:51,140 --> 01:51:52,120
your Medicaid.

3421
01:51:53,180 --> 01:51:55,060
And it's voice to text.

3422
01:51:55,180 --> 01:51:55,700
Yes, you're right.

3423
01:51:55,820 --> 01:51:57,420
Have you read the fine print?

3424
01:51:58,340 --> 01:52:00,480
No, because I'm so old and decrepit.

3425
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:01,420
I need my glasses.

3426
01:52:01,420 --> 01:52:02,840
I can't see the fine print.

3427
01:52:02,940 --> 01:52:04,080
What does it say, John?

3428
01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:07,420
It says that the voice goes to India

3429
01:52:07,420 --> 01:52:11,380
and somebody listens and they type it out

3430
01:52:11,380 --> 01:52:12,200
by hand.

3431
01:52:12,620 --> 01:52:13,900
There's no AI.

3432
01:52:14,220 --> 01:52:16,440
There's no voice recognition going on.

3433
01:52:17,180 --> 01:52:18,620
It literally says that.

3434
01:52:18,620 --> 01:52:18,960
Really?

3435
01:52:19,180 --> 01:52:21,040
If you read the bottom, you get...

3436
01:52:21,740 --> 01:52:23,460
In fact, they're calling me now.

3437
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:25,240
By the way...

3438
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,540
You're giving up the secrets.

3439
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:30,680
Well, answer the phone or take it off

3440
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:31,020
the hook.

3441
01:52:31,020 --> 01:52:31,700
One or the other.

3442
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:32,840
Keep talking, keep talking.

3443
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:34,760
Yeah, but I have something to say.

3444
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:36,460
And I know that if I'm talking and

3445
01:52:36,460 --> 01:52:39,120
you're listening to whatever scammer is calling you,

3446
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:40,680
you're not going to be listening to what

3447
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:41,100
I say.

3448
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:42,580
You will miss all my punchlines.

3449
01:52:43,140 --> 01:52:43,600
Are you back?

3450
01:52:45,810 --> 01:52:46,410
All right.

3451
01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:47,910
Time to drop the noise gate.

3452
01:52:48,250 --> 01:52:48,370
Noise gate?

3453
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:51,280
What did you...

3454
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:51,800
That was an A.

3455
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:52,200
A.

3456
01:52:52,620 --> 01:52:52,980
What?

3457
01:52:53,220 --> 01:52:53,420
What?

3458
01:52:53,660 --> 01:52:55,040
It was from AT&T.

3459
01:52:55,340 --> 01:52:56,320
Oh, AT&T.

3460
01:52:56,660 --> 01:52:58,220
Tell me I can get a better deal.

3461
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,860
By the way, this Pakistan-India stick fight,

3462
01:53:01,980 --> 01:53:03,940
that's going to screw up help desks everywhere.

3463
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,540
We should be very upset about this.

3464
01:53:08,340 --> 01:53:10,600
What were you complaining about before the phone

3465
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:10,880
rang?

3466
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:11,540
Oh, yeah.

3467
01:53:11,580 --> 01:53:12,680
I was saying, yeah, you got to read

3468
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:16,240
the fine print on that stupid phone.

3469
01:53:16,620 --> 01:53:17,400
It's hilarious.

3470
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:24,120
So today, there will be a vote on

3471
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:25,400
the Genius Act.

3472
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:27,680
This is the big one.

3473
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:28,600
Yeah.

3474
01:53:28,780 --> 01:53:30,760
Have you been following the Genius Act?

3475
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:32,220
No.

3476
01:53:32,940 --> 01:53:36,660
It's a trick name for the stablecoin legislation.

3477
01:53:39,370 --> 01:53:39,670
And...

3478
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:40,270
Hell yeah.

3479
01:53:40,570 --> 01:53:41,650
Now I'm interested.

3480
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:44,690
So they time this with the Pope.

3481
01:53:45,470 --> 01:53:46,150
It's perfect.

3482
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:47,290
And we don't want anyone to know what's

3483
01:53:47,290 --> 01:53:47,650
going on.

3484
01:53:47,710 --> 01:53:49,930
So I just have five very short clips

3485
01:53:49,930 --> 01:53:53,070
of each of these senators, like half a

3486
01:53:53,070 --> 01:53:56,470
minute each, of each of the senators, pro

3487
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:57,150
and con.

3488
01:53:57,210 --> 01:53:58,810
We start with Senator Scott.

3489
01:53:58,810 --> 01:54:02,050
The Genius Act establishes common sense rules that

3490
01:54:02,050 --> 01:54:07,050
require stablecoin issuers to maintain reserves backed one

3491
01:54:07,050 --> 01:54:10,850
-to-one, comply with anti-money laundering laws,

3492
01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:15,350
and ultimately protect American consumers while promoting the

3493
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:17,910
U.S. dollar's strength in the global economy.

3494
01:54:18,430 --> 01:54:22,110
This is about keeping innovation and opportunity on

3495
01:54:22,110 --> 01:54:26,050
American soil, rather than driving it overseas.

3496
01:54:26,330 --> 01:54:27,370
That sounds good.

3497
01:54:27,370 --> 01:54:29,110
I'm all in with Senator Scott.

3498
01:54:29,190 --> 01:54:29,990
I think he's right.

3499
01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:32,230
What's the logic of this?

3500
01:54:32,970 --> 01:54:34,850
The logic is if we...

3501
01:54:34,850 --> 01:54:35,170
What's the logic?

3502
01:54:35,310 --> 01:54:37,310
Oh, you got the stablecoin, so that'll keep

3503
01:54:37,310 --> 01:54:38,790
innovation here.

3504
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:40,090
What are you talking about?

3505
01:54:40,230 --> 01:54:43,130
Well, if you can't use stablecoin in America

3506
01:54:43,130 --> 01:54:48,310
with American backing, i.e. the Treasuries, then

3507
01:54:48,310 --> 01:54:51,130
it'll be used by China or someone else.

3508
01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:51,930
That's the logic.

3509
01:54:51,930 --> 01:54:52,230
For what?

3510
01:54:52,770 --> 01:54:54,770
To make their...

3511
01:54:55,490 --> 01:54:58,670
Remember, the whole stablecoin gambit is to flood

3512
01:54:58,670 --> 01:55:01,110
the world with American dollars that are digital.

3513
01:55:01,330 --> 01:55:02,060
That's the gambit.

3514
01:55:02,950 --> 01:55:06,830
But Senator Warren, who of course represents banks

3515
01:55:06,830 --> 01:55:10,710
in some form, probably British banks, she's against

3516
01:55:10,710 --> 01:55:10,910
it.

3517
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:13,110
But she has a very, very good example

3518
01:55:13,110 --> 01:55:14,950
of why you don't want this consumer.

3519
01:55:15,290 --> 01:55:20,230
First, the bill ignores basic consumer protections that

3520
01:55:20,230 --> 01:55:24,650
apply to every other financial product available in

3521
01:55:24,650 --> 01:55:25,090
America.

3522
01:55:25,410 --> 01:55:28,650
If you are sending a US dollar from

3523
01:55:28,650 --> 01:55:32,610
your PayPal wallet and you get scammed, the

3524
01:55:32,610 --> 01:55:36,150
CFPB has the authority right now to help

3525
01:55:36,150 --> 01:55:37,370
you get your money back.

3526
01:55:37,690 --> 01:55:41,250
But if this bill passes and you're sending

3527
01:55:41,250 --> 01:55:45,650
a stablecoin from your PayPal wallet and you

3528
01:55:45,650 --> 01:55:48,110
get scammed, you may just be out of

3529
01:55:48,110 --> 01:55:48,330
luck.

3530
01:55:48,330 --> 01:55:48,930
Oh no!

3531
01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:50,250
Your PayPal wallet.

3532
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:53,630
It's only available in the Vatican City, the

3533
01:55:53,630 --> 01:55:54,310
PayPal wallet.

3534
01:55:55,590 --> 01:55:55,930
And why?

3535
01:55:56,770 --> 01:55:57,510
Why what?

3536
01:55:57,970 --> 01:55:58,710
What's your logic?

3537
01:55:59,930 --> 01:56:01,150
She has no logic.

3538
01:56:01,230 --> 01:56:02,230
There's no logic to that.

3539
01:56:02,270 --> 01:56:04,550
If I got scammed and PayPal's covering my

3540
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:07,650
scams, although I don't know that they do,

3541
01:56:08,050 --> 01:56:09,850
what difference does it make how I got

3542
01:56:09,850 --> 01:56:10,330
scammed?

3543
01:56:10,610 --> 01:56:12,630
I'm just telling you that this is Senator

3544
01:56:12,630 --> 01:56:13,010
Warren.

3545
01:56:13,490 --> 01:56:14,770
Look, there's a vote coming.

3546
01:56:14,830 --> 01:56:16,190
I'm just giving you all sides.

3547
01:56:16,290 --> 01:56:17,970
I have no dog in the hunt.

3548
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:19,710
Now, Senator Loomis.

3549
01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:20,810
No, I don't.

3550
01:56:21,410 --> 01:56:23,850
I'm not pro-stablecoin.

3551
01:56:24,590 --> 01:56:24,990
Yeah.

3552
01:56:25,330 --> 01:56:26,190
What do you mean, yeah?

3553
01:56:26,990 --> 01:56:27,630
You are.

3554
01:56:27,730 --> 01:56:29,130
You're a big stablecoin guy.

3555
01:56:29,170 --> 01:56:29,490
What do you...

3556
01:56:29,490 --> 01:56:31,490
I don't own a single stablecoin.

3557
01:56:31,590 --> 01:56:33,690
Why would I be a pro-stablecoin guy?

3558
01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:35,730
Because you have this basic thesis and you're

3559
01:56:35,730 --> 01:56:38,830
hoping this whole thesis goes to fruition so

3560
01:56:38,830 --> 01:56:40,630
you can say, yeah, I predicted this.

3561
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:41,570
Well, there's that.

3562
01:56:41,590 --> 01:56:42,530
So that's the dog in the hunt.

3563
01:56:42,610 --> 01:56:43,350
Well, there's that.

3564
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:45,230
That's the dog in the hunt.

3565
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:46,090
What else could it be?

3566
01:56:46,170 --> 01:56:47,590
It's a pretty small doggie.

3567
01:56:48,290 --> 01:56:50,450
We go over to Senator Loomis.

3568
01:56:50,570 --> 01:56:52,990
She is the person who is in charge

3569
01:56:52,990 --> 01:56:55,250
of all of these crypto bills.

3570
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:59,450
This bill promotes responsible financial innovation and protects

3571
01:56:59,450 --> 01:57:00,450
consumers.

3572
01:57:02,090 --> 01:57:02,730
Really?

3573
01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:04,810
It's that simple.

3574
01:57:05,010 --> 01:57:08,210
This bill also strengthens the dual banking system

3575
01:57:08,210 --> 01:57:10,590
by creating a strong pathway for both state

3576
01:57:10,590 --> 01:57:13,950
and federal stablecoin issuers to operate on a

3577
01:57:13,950 --> 01:57:16,150
level playing field under robust supervision.

3578
01:57:16,450 --> 01:57:18,750
We can have a Texas stablecoin.

3579
01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:22,910
Wyoming pioneered digital asset legislation in 2018.

3580
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:27,010
And I'm proud to say this bill builds

3581
01:57:27,010 --> 01:57:31,430
upon my state's hard work and success and

3582
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:37,110
framework that creates a very fair but highly

3583
01:57:37,110 --> 01:57:40,390
transparent and regulated process.

3584
01:57:41,530 --> 01:57:42,010
Okay.

3585
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:44,070
Senator Hagerty.

3586
01:57:44,170 --> 01:57:45,070
Where's Hagerty from?

3587
01:57:45,630 --> 01:57:46,270
Where's Hagerty?

3588
01:57:46,270 --> 01:57:46,950
I don't know.

3589
01:57:47,170 --> 01:57:49,110
But I'm telling you, the more I hear

3590
01:57:49,110 --> 01:57:52,050
about this stuff, the less I like it.

3591
01:57:52,270 --> 01:57:52,950
Oh, that's okay.

3592
01:57:53,250 --> 01:57:57,710
This is the downfall of the economic system.

3593
01:57:57,990 --> 01:58:00,810
Stablecoins can actually play a pivotal role in

3594
01:58:00,810 --> 01:58:01,770
spurring modernization.

3595
01:58:02,210 --> 01:58:04,930
Whether it's improving transaction efficiency, freeing up working

3596
01:58:04,930 --> 01:58:07,890
capital, or driving U.S. Treasury demand, the

3597
01:58:07,890 --> 01:58:10,630
benefits of a clear regulatory framework for stablecoin

3598
01:58:10,630 --> 01:58:11,490
are immense.

3599
01:58:11,710 --> 01:58:12,430
That's the key.

3600
01:58:12,610 --> 01:58:14,390
Driving Treasury demand.

3601
01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:15,910
I want to acknowledge the hard work of

3602
01:58:15,910 --> 01:58:17,370
my colleagues on both sides of the aisle

3603
01:58:17,370 --> 01:58:18,930
who've worked tirelessly on this bill and have

3604
01:58:18,930 --> 01:58:22,850
consulted with countless industry participants, academic experts, and

3605
01:58:22,850 --> 01:58:25,170
government stakeholders to put together a truly bipartisan

3606
01:58:25,170 --> 01:58:25,570
effort.

3607
01:58:26,190 --> 01:58:27,530
And I want to underscore that the current

3608
01:58:27,530 --> 01:58:31,230
draft is, in the manager's package that's associated

3609
01:58:31,230 --> 01:58:32,170
with it, we're going to vote on today,

3610
01:58:32,270 --> 01:58:35,010
will address the many claims that were lodged

3611
01:58:35,010 --> 01:58:36,530
by the ranking member today.

3612
01:58:36,830 --> 01:58:38,870
And they will clarify the fact that many

3613
01:58:38,870 --> 01:58:40,750
of the claims simply just aren't applicable here.

3614
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:42,470
Hagerty's from Tennessee.

3615
01:58:42,670 --> 01:58:43,370
He's a Republican.

3616
01:58:43,370 --> 01:58:46,130
And then the final one is Senator also

3617
01:58:46,130 --> 01:58:49,490
Brooks, which is, I've never, also Brooks.

3618
01:58:49,990 --> 01:58:52,190
Like Brooks and Capehart and also Brooks?

3619
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:57,690
It is critical that as we address emerging

3620
01:58:57,690 --> 01:59:00,030
markets, we do so in the way that

3621
01:59:00,030 --> 01:59:04,230
protects consumers, that drives innovation, and that allows

3622
01:59:04,230 --> 01:59:07,530
everyone to participate in and benefit from these

3623
01:59:07,530 --> 01:59:07,910
markets.

3624
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:11,170
And that also prioritizes American leadership.

3625
01:59:11,170 --> 01:59:14,090
I believe that our bill provides an important

3626
01:59:14,090 --> 01:59:17,750
foundational framework from which to build and that

3627
01:59:17,750 --> 01:59:20,110
today we have an opportunity to make positive

3628
01:59:20,110 --> 01:59:21,830
changes toward our common goal.

3629
01:59:22,570 --> 01:59:24,750
We've heard some concerns that our revisions to

3630
01:59:24,750 --> 01:59:28,190
the state preemption language may have unintended consequences.

3631
01:59:28,630 --> 01:59:31,330
And I'd like to thank Senators Hagerty and

3632
01:59:31,330 --> 01:59:33,850
Lummis for their commitment to work with us

3633
01:59:33,850 --> 01:59:36,590
to address these concerns and to do so

3634
01:59:36,590 --> 01:59:37,130
on the floor.

3635
01:59:37,450 --> 01:59:38,750
I think this is going to pass.

3636
01:59:38,990 --> 01:59:40,410
And you're right.

3637
01:59:40,410 --> 01:59:42,910
This will be the downfall, but in a

3638
01:59:42,910 --> 01:59:43,730
different way.

3639
01:59:43,830 --> 01:59:46,390
I think it will be U.S. total

3640
01:59:46,390 --> 01:59:49,630
dominance over financial markets worldwide.

3641
01:59:50,810 --> 01:59:53,850
And if the stable coin falls, then it'll

3642
01:59:53,850 --> 01:59:55,070
bring down the rest of the world.

3643
01:59:55,130 --> 01:59:56,290
And we'll be sitting here on a nice

3644
01:59:56,290 --> 01:59:58,890
island, loving our paper dollars.

3645
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:03,100
Anyway, it's happening today.

3646
02:00:03,780 --> 02:00:04,660
So we'll see.

3647
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:08,000
I don't know what to make of it.

3648
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:09,240
No, I know you don't.

3649
02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:10,720
But I'm excited about it.

3650
02:00:11,180 --> 02:00:11,620
Yeah, I know.

3651
02:00:11,620 --> 02:00:12,540
That's why I said you have a dog

3652
02:00:12,540 --> 02:00:12,840
in that.

3653
02:00:13,020 --> 02:00:16,620
I'm very disappointed by our producers.

3654
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:22,760
We have at least five air traffic controllers

3655
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,140
in Gitmo Nation.

3656
02:00:25,340 --> 02:00:28,240
And I think three of those are in

3657
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:28,920
Indianapolis.

3658
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:31,280
One of the most active no agenda groups,

3659
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:32,240
meetup groups.

3660
02:00:32,860 --> 02:00:35,460
Not a single one has emailed me about

3661
02:00:35,460 --> 02:00:36,240
Newark Airport.

3662
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:38,420
Not a single one.

3663
02:00:38,420 --> 02:00:41,300
As a producer of the Best Podcasting Universe,

3664
02:00:42,020 --> 02:00:44,400
whenever something happens that you are an absolute

3665
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,880
expert in, it is your duty and obligation

3666
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,660
to email us and tell us what's going

3667
02:00:50,660 --> 02:00:51,740
on with this story.

3668
02:00:51,900 --> 02:00:54,340
This morning, we continue to see massive travel

3669
02:00:54,340 --> 02:00:57,120
disruptions at one of the nation's busiest airports,

3670
02:00:57,300 --> 02:00:59,860
and we're getting new information about what initially

3671
02:00:59,860 --> 02:01:02,180
caused the delays and cancellations.

3672
02:01:02,540 --> 02:01:06,500
Air traffic controllers temporarily lost communication with planes

3673
02:01:06,500 --> 02:01:09,180
flying in and out of Newark International Airport.

3674
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:09,740
Is that bad?

3675
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:10,880
That's not good.

3676
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:15,060
There was a malfunction with Federal Aviation Administration

3677
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:19,160
equipment, and air traffic controllers were unable to

3678
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:23,160
see, hear, or talk with any aircraft.

3679
02:01:23,540 --> 02:01:26,500
It's not clear how long communication was lost.

3680
02:01:26,860 --> 02:01:30,240
But because of that incident, several air traffic

3681
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:32,300
controllers went on leave.

3682
02:01:32,820 --> 02:01:35,340
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy sent a letter

3683
02:01:35,340 --> 02:01:39,700
to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy yesterday, asking for

3684
02:01:39,700 --> 02:01:42,340
technology upgrades at Newark Airport.

3685
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:44,800
Well, so they want more money.

3686
02:01:44,980 --> 02:01:46,520
But so I guess that I know that

3687
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,500
radar went out for about 60 or 90

3688
02:01:48,500 --> 02:01:49,740
seconds, which is not good.

3689
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,240
I don't know if all other comms went

3690
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:52,600
down.

3691
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:55,080
But not a single, not a single email.

3692
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:56,800
I just checked to make sure that I

3693
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:57,360
didn't get anything.

3694
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,140
I did get something else though.

3695
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:00,600
Take a look at this video.

3696
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,940
It's more than a year old, from September

3697
02:02:02,940 --> 02:02:06,080
2021, from what we understand from an Indian

3698
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:07,080
military source.

3699
02:02:07,500 --> 02:02:09,920
And here you have the Chinese and Indian

3700
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,960
militaries beating each other over a barbed wire

3701
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,020
high in the Himalayas.

3702
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:19,060
Again, we've been able to confirm that this

3703
02:02:19,060 --> 02:02:21,660
took place around September 28, 2021.

3704
02:02:22,180 --> 02:02:24,300
It doesn't actually say stick fight, but the

3705
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:26,380
video shows them hitting each other with sticks.

3706
02:02:26,500 --> 02:02:27,020
You were right.

3707
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:28,300
It's a big deal in that area.

3708
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:29,340
Yeah, stick fights.

3709
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:31,220
I think we should do that at meetups.

3710
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:32,700
We have a stick fight.

3711
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:34,260
Yeah, we should have a stick fight.

3712
02:02:34,380 --> 02:02:35,900
Yeah, this is a great idea.

3713
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:37,820
You have to hate the other side.

3714
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:38,360
Oh, no.

3715
02:02:38,900 --> 02:02:39,640
People of meters like each other.

3716
02:02:39,780 --> 02:02:42,020
No, that's a pillow fight.

3717
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:43,580
And with that, I want to thank you

3718
02:02:43,580 --> 02:02:45,100
for your courage in the morning to you,

3719
02:02:45,180 --> 02:02:47,200
the man who put the sea in the

3720
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,220
corpus of artificial intelligence.

3721
02:02:49,580 --> 02:02:50,700
Say hello to my friend on the other

3722
02:02:50,700 --> 02:02:50,860
end.

3723
02:02:50,900 --> 02:02:52,960
The one, the only Mr. John C.

3724
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:53,380
Navarro.

3725
02:02:57,780 --> 02:02:58,140
Oops.

3726
02:02:59,740 --> 02:03:01,960
Well, in the morning, you had to carry

3727
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:03,540
in the morning, all ships, the sea boots

3728
02:03:03,540 --> 02:03:04,640
on the ground, feet in the air, subs

3729
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:05,000
in the water.

3730
02:03:05,420 --> 02:03:07,040
And all the dames and knights out there.

3731
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:08,560
Where's all the noise makers, man?

3732
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:09,360
That's a total dud.

3733
02:03:09,420 --> 02:03:10,080
Oh, there we go.

3734
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:17,020
I don't know what it was.

3735
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,940
Stable coin of the stick fights.

3736
02:03:20,620 --> 02:03:21,340
1721 today.

3737
02:03:21,500 --> 02:03:22,040
We're low.

3738
02:03:22,140 --> 02:03:23,600
Yeah, we're low stable coin.

3739
02:03:23,740 --> 02:03:26,480
No, it was three minutes of your life.

3740
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:28,060
I'm upset.

3741
02:03:28,180 --> 02:03:29,560
1,000 minutes for these guys.

3742
02:03:30,020 --> 02:03:32,260
1,721 trolls.

3743
02:03:32,340 --> 02:03:33,920
Check us out in the troll room at

3744
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:35,860
trollroom.io or soon.

3745
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:37,260
I hope you'll be using one of those

3746
02:03:37,260 --> 02:03:40,540
modern podcast apps coming very, very soon.

3747
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,600
You will be able to donate to the

3748
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:46,000
show through your modern podcast that by hitting

3749
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,840
a button in the app and you can

3750
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:52,040
choose PayPal, cash app, Venmo, whatever you want.

3751
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:54,300
It will come to us in regular form.

3752
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:57,880
This is an amazing new technology that's taking

3753
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:58,320
place.

3754
02:03:58,740 --> 02:04:00,760
I just got a demonstration of it yesterday.

3755
02:04:01,100 --> 02:04:01,300
Yeah.

3756
02:04:01,820 --> 02:04:04,340
How much more off the top disappears?

3757
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:05,420
Nothing.

3758
02:04:06,300 --> 02:04:08,700
Just the regular cost.

3759
02:04:08,940 --> 02:04:11,080
And now what they're really building it for,

3760
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:12,800
which funny enough that they would present it

3761
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,140
to me, is that now you can have

3762
02:04:15,140 --> 02:04:17,680
bonus episodes or premium content.

3763
02:04:19,020 --> 02:04:22,660
I said, can we have premium content that

3764
02:04:22,660 --> 02:04:24,020
is exactly the same?

3765
02:04:25,300 --> 02:04:27,040
Well, yeah, you could.

3766
02:04:27,140 --> 02:04:27,560
Well, good.

3767
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,120
Then I'm interested in using it.

3768
02:04:30,060 --> 02:04:31,420
We don't do that.

3769
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:32,940
We don't do bonus content.

3770
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:35,320
Who came up with this idea?

3771
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:36,780
The boys at Fountain.

3772
02:04:38,890 --> 02:04:40,910
No, I'm talking about the bonus content.

3773
02:04:41,830 --> 02:04:42,370
Oh, goodness.

3774
02:04:43,050 --> 02:04:45,610
I mean, I think it started with Patreon.

3775
02:04:46,050 --> 02:04:46,850
I think Patreon.

3776
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:47,890
I think they're the ones.

3777
02:04:48,090 --> 02:04:49,870
Yeah, I think Patreon kind of started that.

3778
02:04:50,490 --> 02:04:52,830
Yeah, no, we don't participate in that nonsense.

3779
02:04:53,090 --> 02:04:54,470
Why does anybody buy into it?

3780
02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:58,070
We've discussed the psychological impact of it.

3781
02:04:58,290 --> 02:04:59,630
It ruins the show.

3782
02:05:00,030 --> 02:05:01,430
And the reason it ruins the show is

3783
02:05:01,430 --> 02:05:03,330
because you don't know what you talked about

3784
02:05:03,330 --> 02:05:04,150
in the bonus.

3785
02:05:04,330 --> 02:05:07,930
We have enough trouble just talking off the

3786
02:05:07,930 --> 02:05:08,330
air.

3787
02:05:08,670 --> 02:05:09,770
And they say, did we talk about that

3788
02:05:09,770 --> 02:05:10,230
on the show?

3789
02:05:10,350 --> 02:05:10,710
I don't know.

3790
02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:11,090
Did we?

3791
02:05:11,170 --> 02:05:11,470
I don't know.

3792
02:05:11,570 --> 02:05:12,350
I don't remember we did.

3793
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:13,190
It's always a problem.

3794
02:05:13,390 --> 02:05:15,790
If we talk about anything off the air,

3795
02:05:15,890 --> 02:05:17,490
then it never makes it on the air

3796
02:05:17,490 --> 02:05:19,850
because we think we've talked about it, which

3797
02:05:19,850 --> 02:05:20,870
is why we don't talk.

3798
02:05:21,770 --> 02:05:22,110
Right.

3799
02:05:22,670 --> 02:05:23,810
It's a good reason.

3800
02:05:23,810 --> 02:05:24,770
Well, it's one of the many.

3801
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:26,170
But this is a good reason.

3802
02:05:26,530 --> 02:05:28,270
There's many reasons we don't talk.

3803
02:05:28,930 --> 02:05:31,370
But the idea that you'd have this bonus

3804
02:05:31,370 --> 02:05:34,810
content of a special material is pathetic.

3805
02:05:35,110 --> 02:05:36,390
It is kind of pathetic.

3806
02:05:36,590 --> 02:05:37,050
I agree.

3807
02:05:37,450 --> 02:05:38,870
I mean, you get no pushback from it.

3808
02:05:38,890 --> 02:05:39,270
And it's a gimmick.

3809
02:05:39,630 --> 02:05:41,750
Now, it wouldn't be pathetic, for example.

3810
02:05:42,210 --> 02:05:44,470
There are, I can see rationale for it

3811
02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:45,610
under one circumstance.

3812
02:05:46,450 --> 02:05:48,910
And it's the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show.

3813
02:05:48,910 --> 02:05:49,310
Right.

3814
02:05:49,850 --> 02:05:54,590
If you had some special stock tips.

3815
02:05:56,870 --> 02:06:01,150
So kind of related to that, the South

3816
02:06:01,150 --> 02:06:04,530
African parliament is going to regulate podcasts.

3817
02:06:05,350 --> 02:06:06,310
Yes, I saw that.

3818
02:06:06,430 --> 02:06:08,130
That's a good topic to discuss.

3819
02:06:08,290 --> 02:06:08,390
Yeah.

3820
02:06:08,410 --> 02:06:09,170
Yes, they are.

3821
02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:10,050
They want to.

3822
02:06:10,190 --> 02:06:11,290
That's unbelievable to me.

3823
02:06:11,390 --> 02:06:12,490
They want to update.

3824
02:06:13,010 --> 02:06:16,070
They want to license podcasters, which I've been

3825
02:06:16,070 --> 02:06:16,970
predicting forever.

3826
02:06:16,970 --> 02:06:19,070
Yeah, well, go figure.

3827
02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:20,830
It happens in South Africa first.

3828
02:06:22,150 --> 02:06:24,690
Yeah, so they are recognizing the power of

3829
02:06:24,690 --> 02:06:25,110
the podcast.

3830
02:06:25,330 --> 02:06:25,590
The power.

3831
02:06:25,750 --> 02:06:26,990
I mean, hold on a second.

3832
02:06:27,270 --> 02:06:28,550
The power of the podcast.

3833
02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:32,380
Because let's be honest.

3834
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:34,440
Sorry, let's be honest.

3835
02:06:35,860 --> 02:06:37,140
The podcast has a lot of power.

3836
02:06:37,220 --> 02:06:37,920
We got a lot of power.

3837
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:39,700
You know, we have so much power.

3838
02:06:40,020 --> 02:06:41,300
Where did I have this?

3839
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:43,400
There was this.

3840
02:06:43,500 --> 02:06:44,640
I guess we had a.

3841
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:48,280
I thought I put this in here somewhere.

3842
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,960
We had we had a end of show

3843
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,720
mix and James.

3844
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:56,020
No, who was it?

3845
02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:57,320
Pilato.

3846
02:06:57,580 --> 02:06:58,960
I think the guy's name is.

3847
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:01,520
Well, anyway, he was on the Corbett report.

3848
02:07:01,740 --> 02:07:02,560
The Corbett report.

3849
02:07:03,420 --> 02:07:04,460
From Japan.

3850
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:06,800
Isn't he in China or somewhere else?

3851
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:07,640
He's in Japan, isn't he?

3852
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:09,600
So he was all jitty.

3853
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:12,480
That's that's some little bit of his.

3854
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:15,120
I don't know exactly how much, but some

3855
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:16,480
of it wound up in an end of

3856
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:17,000
show mix.

3857
02:07:17,220 --> 02:07:19,360
And and I was I was taken aback

3858
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,160
a bit because to this guy, it was

3859
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:22,040
like a big deal.

3860
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:22,540
Listen to this.

3861
02:07:22,740 --> 02:07:25,540
Not just one media appearance by yours truly

3862
02:07:25,540 --> 02:07:26,400
in the last week.

3863
02:07:26,420 --> 02:07:28,260
I had a second appearance, James.

3864
02:07:28,820 --> 02:07:30,880
I made it to no agenda.

3865
02:07:31,060 --> 02:07:33,800
Media monarchy remixed on no agenda.

3866
02:07:34,020 --> 02:07:37,120
It was some of my editorializing and dialogue

3867
02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:38,460
from this very show.

3868
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:39,240
New World next week.

3869
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:41,480
And it was only our previous episode talking

3870
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:41,760
about.

3871
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:44,200
We're going to know the causes of autism

3872
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:45,240
come September.

3873
02:07:45,380 --> 02:07:46,580
So says RFKJ.

3874
02:07:46,700 --> 02:07:47,960
I don't know who made the mix.

3875
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:49,100
It is fantastic.

3876
02:07:49,300 --> 02:07:50,680
They called it Scream Circle.

3877
02:07:50,860 --> 02:07:52,280
I played it on my morning show this

3878
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:52,580
morning.

3879
02:07:52,740 --> 02:07:54,420
So I do feel a little bit like,

3880
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:56,120
man, I've been on no agenda.

3881
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:58,360
I think between, you know, hanging out with

3882
02:07:58,360 --> 02:07:59,660
Corbett and being on no agenda.

3883
02:08:00,140 --> 02:08:02,200
It's pretty good so far for my 20th

3884
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:02,620
anniversary.

3885
02:08:04,300 --> 02:08:05,360
We're a big deal.

3886
02:08:07,140 --> 02:08:09,000
What am I like it?

3887
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:12,440
I was like, wow, wow, wow.

3888
02:08:12,540 --> 02:08:12,940
We matter.

3889
02:08:13,140 --> 02:08:15,100
We matter in podcast world.

3890
02:08:15,420 --> 02:08:16,740
And we're no Megyn Kelly.

3891
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:17,880
But, you know, we know.

3892
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:19,020
Megyn, she's good.

3893
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,080
She's moving up the ranks.

3894
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:21,840
She's more and more entertainment.

3895
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:23,280
More and more showbiz.

3896
02:08:23,500 --> 02:08:24,380
Top number one.

3897
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:25,480
Showbiz stuff.

3898
02:08:25,540 --> 02:08:26,300
Talking about.

3899
02:08:26,660 --> 02:08:26,940
Yeah.

3900
02:08:27,380 --> 02:08:29,160
Is she vying for a gig on ET?

3901
02:08:29,540 --> 02:08:30,640
Is that what she wants?

3902
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:32,460
Like she's going to make more money doing

3903
02:08:32,460 --> 02:08:33,060
what she's doing.

3904
02:08:33,180 --> 02:08:36,280
She can talk about the Met Gala as

3905
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:36,840
well as anyone.

3906
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:38,880
Well, you did the Met Gala in the

3907
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,300
show in the in the newsletter.

3908
02:08:40,620 --> 02:08:41,500
Of course I did.

3909
02:08:41,660 --> 02:08:41,780
Yeah.

3910
02:08:41,900 --> 02:08:45,000
I think it's a disgusting display of decadence.

3911
02:08:45,140 --> 02:08:46,620
I think it should be stopped.

3912
02:08:46,820 --> 02:08:51,180
I had the pictures of these freaks that

3913
02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:52,360
are dressed up weirdly.

3914
02:08:52,740 --> 02:08:54,500
And I think the whole thing is it's

3915
02:08:54,500 --> 02:08:56,900
almost like I talk about Sodom and Gomorrah.

3916
02:08:57,140 --> 02:08:57,340
Yeah.

3917
02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:59,080
This was the dandy theme, right?

3918
02:08:59,180 --> 02:09:00,800
This was that was the theme this year.

3919
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:01,800
Dandy like that.

3920
02:09:01,860 --> 02:09:02,040
Yeah.

3921
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:03,160
Something like that.

3922
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:04,960
What I thought really.

3923
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:06,240
So do you see Pam Anderson?

3924
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:07,740
No.

3925
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:11,000
Everybody was the number of people that have

3926
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:14,000
$75,000 to throw away on the ticket.

3927
02:09:14,620 --> 02:09:17,480
Plus whatever it costs to develop a dress

3928
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:19,540
or a suit.

3929
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:21,240
Well, I mean, that's the most most of

3930
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,580
the time the designers do that just to

3931
02:09:23,580 --> 02:09:24,400
be the designer.

3932
02:09:24,740 --> 02:09:25,680
Some of this stuff is.

3933
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:26,260
Yeah.

3934
02:09:26,300 --> 02:09:29,240
But Pam Anderson, she did not look good.

3935
02:09:29,300 --> 02:09:30,860
And she had bangs.

3936
02:09:30,860 --> 02:09:33,160
I don't I mean, I couldn't get past

3937
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:37,040
her hair, let alone this enormous silver dress

3938
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:37,740
she had on.

3939
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:39,560
But she had bangs.

3940
02:09:40,180 --> 02:09:41,500
Every woman knows.

3941
02:09:42,080 --> 02:09:43,240
Certainly over 50.

3942
02:09:43,340 --> 02:09:44,520
You do not do bangs.

3943
02:09:45,220 --> 02:09:45,860
It was it was.

3944
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:48,080
That was bad.

3945
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:49,740
Anyway.

3946
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:54,100
Time, talents and treasure is how we do

3947
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:54,960
our business here.

3948
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,460
We don't do any bonus content or any

3949
02:09:57,460 --> 02:09:59,960
other strange things like that.

3950
02:09:59,960 --> 02:10:01,300
No, we do this as a public service.

3951
02:10:01,480 --> 02:10:03,920
We even promote other podcasters, a public service.

3952
02:10:04,020 --> 02:10:04,580
We do all of that.

3953
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:05,760
And we're happy for it.

3954
02:10:06,340 --> 02:10:09,120
And you can support us by by three

3955
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:09,840
or three ways.

3956
02:10:09,900 --> 02:10:12,120
Time, talent, treasure should be treasure at the

3957
02:10:12,120 --> 02:10:14,640
front because that is the most needed, obviously,

3958
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,420
since we don't force you into some kind

3959
02:10:17,420 --> 02:10:18,360
of compliance.

3960
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,600
Now, if you get value out of the

3961
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:22,480
program, then you send some value back.

3962
02:10:22,540 --> 02:10:23,460
What are you laughing about?

3963
02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:24,560
Compliance.

3964
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:28,260
You must pay us or you get nothing.

3965
02:10:28,260 --> 02:10:30,460
We'll get no content if you don't pay

3966
02:10:30,460 --> 02:10:30,720
us.

3967
02:10:30,820 --> 02:10:31,720
No, we're not like that.

3968
02:10:31,780 --> 02:10:32,560
We're nice guys.

3969
02:10:33,420 --> 02:10:34,020
We're nice guys.

3970
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:37,140
But again, we're no we're no Megan.

3971
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:38,580
Megan Kelly.

3972
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:39,780
But we're nice guys.

3973
02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:42,660
And let me see.

3974
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:43,960
Is this right?

3975
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:47,200
Did I do the right art for I

3976
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:48,700
don't think I did the right art somehow.

3977
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:49,900
Did the wrong.

3978
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:50,980
I'm looking.

3979
02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:53,060
I'm looking at the episode.

3980
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:54,660
Oh, wait.

3981
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:56,900
Episode 1761.

3982
02:10:56,900 --> 02:10:58,840
I guess for some reason I didn't put

3983
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:02,700
it in the in the archive.

3984
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:04,380
OK, hold on a second.

3985
02:11:05,420 --> 02:11:07,100
No agenda notes that come here.

3986
02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:08,240
You go 70 now.

3987
02:11:08,660 --> 02:11:09,980
No agenda notes.

3988
02:11:10,580 --> 02:11:11,360
What is this?

3989
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:12,960
What is this nonsense?

3990
02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:16,760
Let me take a look at our website.

3991
02:11:16,900 --> 02:11:19,280
No agenda show dot net.

3992
02:11:19,380 --> 02:11:20,400
OK, that's our website.

3993
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:24,980
Oh, I'm trying to figure out who did

3994
02:11:24,980 --> 02:11:25,740
the art for us.

3995
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:27,100
And for some reason, you're a manga.

3996
02:11:27,100 --> 02:11:28,820
I know, but here it is.

3997
02:11:28,860 --> 02:11:30,000
I finally got it.

3998
02:11:30,380 --> 02:11:30,900
There it is.

3999
02:11:31,300 --> 02:11:31,760
Yes.

4000
02:11:32,180 --> 02:11:33,600
As we were looking at the art and

4001
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:35,260
this is part of the time and talent

4002
02:11:35,260 --> 02:11:37,420
portion of the value that is being sent

4003
02:11:37,420 --> 02:11:39,940
to us through no agenda art generator dot

4004
02:11:39,940 --> 02:11:42,240
com, we were looking at a lot of

4005
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:43,080
different choices.

4006
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:45,940
And when we saw scare mangoes art, which

4007
02:11:45,940 --> 02:11:48,640
is, of course, AI generated, there was like

4008
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:50,720
he did something that is very risky.

4009
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:53,760
He decided to just put every topic, everything

4010
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:56,360
in the kitchen sink into the show, including

4011
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,180
severe underage drinking.

4012
02:11:58,520 --> 02:11:59,740
And it hit the mark.

4013
02:11:59,920 --> 02:12:01,040
He's got everything in there.

4014
02:12:01,180 --> 02:12:01,920
And he nailed it.

4015
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:04,220
Chemtrails, the pulp.

4016
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:07,280
He's got cookie monster.

4017
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:10,260
People feeding the end, the beast.

4018
02:12:10,700 --> 02:12:12,640
He's got a mild guy.

4019
02:12:13,420 --> 02:12:15,180
And then kids drinking margaritas.

4020
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:19,580
Kids drinking margaritas or some sort of a

4021
02:12:19,580 --> 02:12:19,860
drink.

4022
02:12:19,860 --> 02:12:20,100
Yeah.

4023
02:12:20,260 --> 02:12:22,300
And you're like, oh, yeah, you know what?

4024
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:23,200
That's good enough.

4025
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:24,120
We'll take it.

4026
02:12:24,180 --> 02:12:24,820
We thought it was.

4027
02:12:24,820 --> 02:12:26,380
We thought it was grandiose.

4028
02:12:27,020 --> 02:12:29,660
Well, we couldn't find anything to beat it.

4029
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,280
Well, we did discuss some things.

4030
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:33,940
Let me see what we discussed.

4031
02:12:34,260 --> 02:12:36,140
There was the Kim Kardashian but coin.

4032
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,340
No Rubik's score.

4033
02:12:38,500 --> 02:12:39,220
Blue acorns.

4034
02:12:39,380 --> 02:12:39,880
No agenda.

4035
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:42,960
Thirty three tattoo on the knuckles was discussed,

4036
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:44,200
was discussed.

4037
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:45,540
You liked it.

4038
02:12:45,580 --> 02:12:46,040
I didn't.

4039
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:46,260
Yeah.

4040
02:12:46,380 --> 02:12:48,340
Comics for blogger back with a vengeance with

4041
02:12:48,340 --> 02:12:49,980
a Mexican, but no.

4042
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:55,460
And we looked at Go Fox's Harvard, the

4043
02:12:55,460 --> 02:12:58,680
Harvard demonstrators in front of the White House.

4044
02:12:58,860 --> 02:13:00,880
It was just it wasn't really funny.

4045
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:03,360
A lot of Pope stuff that we'd never

4046
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:03,740
do.

4047
02:13:03,900 --> 02:13:07,380
Pope smoking with boxing gloves.

4048
02:13:07,620 --> 02:13:11,220
Now, what else was there?

4049
02:13:11,260 --> 02:13:13,460
Was there anything else that we thought was

4050
02:13:13,460 --> 02:13:14,140
even close?

4051
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:14,900
I don't think so.

4052
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:15,280
No.

4053
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:17,700
Oh, you like the was at the chemtrails,

4054
02:13:17,780 --> 02:13:19,100
the Darren O'Neill chemtrails.

4055
02:13:19,100 --> 02:13:20,140
Evil guy in the plane.

4056
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:21,160
You did mention that.

4057
02:13:22,420 --> 02:13:23,900
I might mention it, but I don't think

4058
02:13:23,900 --> 02:13:25,640
it really held a candle to this thing.

4059
02:13:25,900 --> 02:13:26,300
No agenda.

4060
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:27,200
Fifty seven.

4061
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:30,360
The the Heinz bottle.

4062
02:13:30,540 --> 02:13:31,400
I did mention that.

4063
02:13:31,460 --> 02:13:31,900
That's that.

4064
02:13:31,980 --> 02:13:32,400
I like that.

4065
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:33,420
You like that one.

4066
02:13:35,140 --> 02:13:36,300
And Angry Pope.

4067
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:36,640
No.

4068
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:37,400
Yeah, it was it.

4069
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:38,120
It was good.

4070
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:40,000
I mean, it was Scaramanga took a he

4071
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:41,640
took a risk, a leap of faith and

4072
02:13:41,640 --> 02:13:42,220
it paid off.

4073
02:13:42,380 --> 02:13:43,820
I mean, sometimes it just happens and we

4074
02:13:43,820 --> 02:13:44,460
appreciate that.

4075
02:13:44,500 --> 02:13:46,180
We want to say thank you very much,

4076
02:13:46,460 --> 02:13:46,960
Scaramanga.

4077
02:13:47,700 --> 02:13:49,000
We appreciate what you do.

4078
02:13:50,460 --> 02:13:53,160
And now we will thank our executive and

4079
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:54,460
associate executive producers.

4080
02:13:54,620 --> 02:13:57,840
We thank everybody who donates fifty dollars or

4081
02:13:57,840 --> 02:13:58,140
above.

4082
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:00,200
And at this point in the show, we

4083
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:02,440
thank our executive and associate executive producers.

4084
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:03,420
How do you become that?

4085
02:14:03,580 --> 02:14:05,820
Just like Hollywood, two hundred dollars or above.

4086
02:14:05,900 --> 02:14:07,480
You become an associate executive producer.

4087
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:09,000
That credit is good for your lifetime.

4088
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:09,960
You can use it anywhere.

4089
02:14:10,400 --> 02:14:12,920
Hollywood credits are recognized, which apparently is everywhere

4090
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:17,140
except Hollywood, you know, Vancouver, any other country.

4091
02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:19,140
But you can use it.

4092
02:14:19,220 --> 02:14:21,040
IMDB dot com and we'll read your note.

4093
02:14:21,140 --> 02:14:22,000
Three hundred dollars above.

4094
02:14:22,300 --> 02:14:24,080
Same rules apply for the credit.

4095
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:26,540
Of course, it's an executive producer credit and

4096
02:14:26,540 --> 02:14:27,360
we will read your note.

4097
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:30,040
And coming in at our top donor that

4098
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:31,440
you haven't heard from him for a while.

4099
02:14:31,500 --> 02:14:32,840
I think it's been two months, maybe.

4100
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:36,860
Has it been two at least with twenty

4101
02:14:36,860 --> 02:14:39,740
six oh six, which means at least three

4102
02:14:39,740 --> 02:14:42,760
two dollar bills synonymous of dog patch and

4103
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:43,660
lower Slobovia.

4104
02:14:43,660 --> 02:14:45,400
And we always love hearing from him.

4105
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:47,500
And we're happy to hear that he's alive

4106
02:14:47,500 --> 02:14:48,260
and doing well.

4107
02:14:48,380 --> 02:14:49,900
And he always has a long note.

4108
02:14:49,960 --> 02:14:53,120
He sends this in cash from different places

4109
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:54,380
around the United States.

4110
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:56,940
And it comes with a printed note.

4111
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:58,160
Is it printed or typewritten?

4112
02:14:59,160 --> 02:14:59,640
Printed.

4113
02:14:59,740 --> 02:15:00,400
It looks printed.

4114
02:15:01,060 --> 02:15:03,280
I believe it to be printed from synonymous

4115
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:04,660
dog patch and lower Slobovia.

4116
02:15:04,740 --> 02:15:06,220
Thank you to all the producers that make

4117
02:15:06,220 --> 02:15:08,320
this show such an important source of information

4118
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:13,400
and perspective and perspective, even if sometimes Islamophobic.

4119
02:15:14,360 --> 02:15:16,840
When have we done Islamophobic stuff?

4120
02:15:20,180 --> 02:15:25,700
I mean, true Islamophobic, like irrational, irrational, bitched

4121
02:15:25,700 --> 02:15:27,620
and moaned about one thing or another that

4122
02:15:27,620 --> 02:15:29,740
might be about all kinds of stuff might

4123
02:15:29,740 --> 02:15:31,660
be interpreted as such.

4124
02:15:31,980 --> 02:15:35,240
Well, it's like transphobic, you know, it's like

4125
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:38,940
I'm not irrationally afraid of trans people, but

4126
02:15:38,940 --> 02:15:40,720
your point is taken.

4127
02:15:41,180 --> 02:15:43,700
The April blizzard has been longer and more

4128
02:15:43,700 --> 02:15:44,660
intense than expected.

4129
02:15:44,660 --> 02:15:46,640
Many didn't slow down and drove into a

4130
02:15:46,640 --> 02:15:46,840
ditch.

4131
02:15:46,980 --> 02:15:48,580
Others are just looking out their window and

4132
02:15:48,580 --> 02:15:49,220
waiting it out.

4133
02:15:49,580 --> 02:15:51,760
Some wisely just slowed down, gripped the wheel

4134
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:54,040
tightly and used no agenda as the flashing

4135
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:56,060
taillights in front of us to help navigate

4136
02:15:56,060 --> 02:15:56,700
the storm.

4137
02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:58,500
He's writing prose now.

4138
02:15:59,020 --> 02:16:00,940
From inside the U.S. looking out.

4139
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:01,640
He's on a roll.

4140
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:02,060
He is.

4141
02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:03,140
He's over it.

4142
02:16:03,180 --> 02:16:04,620
You know, he normally gets it out of

4143
02:16:04,620 --> 02:16:05,720
his system once a month.

4144
02:16:05,980 --> 02:16:07,300
Yeah, this is two months.

4145
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:08,160
So he's a lot to say.

4146
02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:10,700
From inside the U.S. looking out.

4147
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:12,080
So what?

4148
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:13,780
So what that we screw the country?

4149
02:16:13,780 --> 02:16:15,520
The country somehow.

4150
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:17,920
Yeah, he probably is.

4151
02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:20,100
So he's stuck outside the country and he's

4152
02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:20,420
mad.

4153
02:16:20,580 --> 02:16:22,940
He and he's irked that he's not back

4154
02:16:22,940 --> 02:16:24,880
nor in wherever he normally is.

4155
02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:29,960
And he's reading foreign news outlets, which are

4156
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:32,379
all New York Times, basically, that have been

4157
02:16:32,379 --> 02:16:33,040
repurposed.

4158
02:16:33,219 --> 02:16:33,639
Yes.

4159
02:16:33,959 --> 02:16:38,900
And he's being slowly brainwashed to be to

4160
02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:39,219
be.

4161
02:16:39,820 --> 02:16:41,480
Well, I don't know about that.

4162
02:16:41,620 --> 02:16:42,400
Yeah, I think so.

4163
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:44,480
So what that we screw the countries we

4164
02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:45,299
source products?

4165
02:16:45,520 --> 02:16:47,719
Isn't the saying the customer is always right?

4166
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:49,680
After all, the U.S. is always the

4167
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:52,480
customer, except in D.I.B. What's D

4168
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:58,209
.I.B.? What's D.I.B.? I have

4169
02:16:58,209 --> 02:16:58,629
no idea.

4170
02:16:59,030 --> 02:17:00,889
So he says he goes on to countries

4171
02:17:00,889 --> 02:17:02,530
that sell to the U.S. as we

4172
02:17:02,530 --> 02:17:04,770
dogpatch and say, get over it.

4173
02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:06,750
We're the customer and we're right.

4174
02:17:07,250 --> 02:17:08,110
He's on a roll.

4175
02:17:08,190 --> 02:17:08,510
You're right.

4176
02:17:08,850 --> 02:17:10,930
From outside the U.S. looking in.

4177
02:17:11,129 --> 02:17:11,969
What the hell?

4178
02:17:11,969 --> 02:17:14,430
You keep demanding cheaper goods than bits that

4179
02:17:14,430 --> 02:17:16,010
you don't like that our people work harder

4180
02:17:16,010 --> 02:17:16,549
for less.

4181
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:19,270
The tariffs you impose to subsidize paying your

4182
02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:22,010
people to make trade equal cause our poor

4183
02:17:22,010 --> 02:17:23,650
people to lose jobs.

4184
02:17:24,610 --> 02:17:25,790
And then he has a piece.

4185
02:17:25,930 --> 02:17:30,170
Was this is this just an artifact of

4186
02:17:30,170 --> 02:17:30,850
the scan?

4187
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:33,090
Or was this pasted on top?

4188
02:17:33,129 --> 02:17:35,469
It looks like it's a separate piece.

4189
02:17:35,490 --> 02:17:36,670
Or is that just a fold in the

4190
02:17:36,670 --> 02:17:36,990
paper?

4191
02:17:38,450 --> 02:17:39,549
There's nothing separate.

4192
02:17:42,450 --> 02:17:43,709
You're talking about all way?

4193
02:17:43,850 --> 02:17:45,809
No, the only thing I know.

4194
02:17:46,190 --> 02:17:47,750
OK, well, I'm going to read the last

4195
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:48,110
paragraph.

4196
02:17:48,650 --> 02:17:52,430
Worse, you suspend the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act

4197
02:17:52,430 --> 02:17:54,889
so your big rich companies can be openly

4198
02:17:54,889 --> 02:17:56,930
corrupt instead of just sleazy.

4199
02:17:57,629 --> 02:18:00,330
Well, hello, we're foam finger number one.

4200
02:18:01,230 --> 02:18:04,750
As an American with considerable international experience and

4201
02:18:04,750 --> 02:18:08,170
acknowledging the reality of international business dealings, holding

4202
02:18:08,170 --> 02:18:12,389
a moral advantage of integrity reinforced by noting

4203
02:18:12,389 --> 02:18:14,590
bribery is a U.S. crime.

4204
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:19,469
Often prosecuted, prosecuted, offered some protection from participating

4205
02:18:19,469 --> 02:18:20,629
in backdoor auctions.

4206
02:18:21,070 --> 02:18:23,570
We already know how to do business internationally.

4207
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:27,590
Don't open bribes, especially if they're tax deductible.

4208
02:18:28,590 --> 02:18:30,350
No jingles, no karma.

4209
02:18:30,790 --> 02:18:33,629
Wow, he seems a little down on everything.

4210
02:18:33,629 --> 02:18:36,090
Yeah, I didn't know that.

4211
02:18:36,190 --> 02:18:39,150
Did we suspended the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act?

4212
02:18:39,389 --> 02:18:40,549
I was not aware of that.

4213
02:18:40,770 --> 02:18:42,870
Well, well, I'm going to look, check this

4214
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:43,190
out.

4215
02:18:43,290 --> 02:18:44,110
OK, yes.

4216
02:18:44,290 --> 02:18:44,390
Right.

4217
02:18:44,430 --> 02:18:46,030
He could have been reading something in the

4218
02:18:46,030 --> 02:18:48,530
in the independent, for all we know, which

4219
02:18:48,530 --> 02:18:51,090
is or in The Guardian, The Guardian, maybe.

4220
02:18:52,129 --> 02:18:52,889
You don't know.

4221
02:18:53,350 --> 02:18:53,690
Thank you.

4222
02:18:53,750 --> 02:18:56,969
Seronomist of Dogpatch, Lois Lobovia, your contributions and

4223
02:18:56,969 --> 02:19:00,190
your producing of the show is always highly,

4224
02:19:00,469 --> 02:19:02,110
highly valued and appreciated.

4225
02:19:03,850 --> 02:19:06,190
From there, I'll look this up as we

4226
02:19:06,190 --> 02:19:06,969
go along.

4227
02:19:07,090 --> 02:19:10,650
But meanwhile, I'll read the note from Dame

4228
02:19:10,650 --> 02:19:12,170
Susan in McKinney, Texas.

4229
02:19:12,389 --> 02:19:14,530
McKinney, McKinney, McKinney.

4230
02:19:15,690 --> 02:19:16,969
For 500 bucks.

4231
02:19:17,610 --> 02:19:20,410
And she came in late for a Commodore

4232
02:19:20,410 --> 02:19:21,450
ship, so we gave her one.

4233
02:19:22,570 --> 02:19:25,490
Oh, this should be postmarked in time for

4234
02:19:25,490 --> 02:19:26,170
the Commodore ship.

4235
02:19:26,250 --> 02:19:28,150
So hopefully not too late for the Commodore

4236
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:28,650
inclusion.

4237
02:19:28,809 --> 02:19:31,209
Sorry for my tardiness.

4238
02:19:31,590 --> 02:19:35,770
I would like to give this honor to

4239
02:19:35,770 --> 02:19:40,309
my son, Elliot, as an early birthday gift

4240
02:19:40,309 --> 02:19:43,830
for a date to be celebrated in June.

4241
02:19:44,830 --> 02:19:51,630
His grandfather was Commodore of Rush Creek Yacht

4242
02:19:51,630 --> 02:19:53,950
Club in the last century.

4243
02:19:54,770 --> 02:19:55,810
Wow, a real one.

4244
02:19:56,290 --> 02:19:58,750
So this seems entirely appropriate.

4245
02:19:58,750 --> 02:20:02,630
No jingles, just lots of yak karma for

4246
02:20:02,630 --> 02:20:04,730
the Arizona crew.

4247
02:20:04,910 --> 02:20:05,710
All the best.

4248
02:20:06,130 --> 02:20:11,210
Dame Susan of the Soldier We.

4249
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:14,640
You've got...

4250
02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:18,360
Nice.

4251
02:20:20,060 --> 02:20:22,500
Then, oh, well, this shows you that war

4252
02:20:22,500 --> 02:20:23,540
is always profitable.

4253
02:20:23,740 --> 02:20:24,360
And a racket.

4254
02:20:24,760 --> 02:20:27,480
This is a donation coming from the Great

4255
02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:29,140
Curry Horowitz Frackas.

4256
02:20:30,420 --> 02:20:32,460
433.33 from Franny.

4257
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:35,840
Franny says, hey, guys, thank you for your

4258
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:37,180
humor, insight, and clarity.

4259
02:20:37,380 --> 02:20:39,060
You are true national treasures.

4260
02:20:39,820 --> 02:20:43,060
Adam, please give my beautiful pickleball girlfriend Sylvia

4261
02:20:43,060 --> 02:20:45,820
Corn-Jones birthday wishes in her native Dutch

4262
02:20:45,820 --> 02:20:46,280
language.

4263
02:20:46,620 --> 02:20:48,100
She's one of the best people I know.

4264
02:20:48,180 --> 02:20:48,520
Thanks.

4265
02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:50,080
Gefeliciteerd, Sylvia.

4266
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:52,660
And send love and light to my human

4267
02:20:52,660 --> 02:20:55,720
resource bunnies Axel, Fiona, and Bowie.

4268
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:57,900
And the love of my life, Peter, the

4269
02:20:57,900 --> 02:20:58,800
Viking hunk.

4270
02:20:59,460 --> 02:21:01,960
The family that Noah Jenner's together stays informed.

4271
02:21:02,700 --> 02:21:03,740
Thank you for all that you do.

4272
02:21:03,940 --> 02:21:04,560
Friend of Andrew.

4273
02:21:04,740 --> 02:21:06,660
Yes, I was the drunk caller, drinker of

4274
02:21:06,660 --> 02:21:08,100
tequila, and great American.

4275
02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:10,800
God bless the Tech Grouch and the Podfather.

4276
02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:13,260
Eight more years, says Franny, and she adds

4277
02:21:13,260 --> 02:21:17,140
P.S. Adam, we are not swingers, nor

4278
02:21:17,140 --> 02:21:19,280
do we belong to a key party, whatever

4279
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:19,880
that is.

4280
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:22,020
We're just fun weekend drunks.

4281
02:21:22,520 --> 02:21:24,380
Horowitz should invite you to South Florida for

4282
02:21:24,380 --> 02:21:25,120
one of his gatherings.

4283
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,360
John, we know you won't show, but you

4284
02:21:27,360 --> 02:21:28,480
should be invited to.

4285
02:21:28,940 --> 02:21:29,180
Bye.

4286
02:21:30,560 --> 02:21:32,080
Oh, isn't that nice?

4287
02:21:34,420 --> 02:21:36,980
So the Corrupt Practices Act was suspended in

4288
02:21:36,980 --> 02:21:40,460
February by Trump for a period of 180

4289
02:21:40,460 --> 02:21:42,220
days, during which time the U.S. Attorney

4290
02:21:42,220 --> 02:21:46,480
General will seek to align the FCPA enforcement

4291
02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:49,240
with the Trump administration's twin aims of enhancing

4292
02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:54,020
national security and restoring competitive balance in the

4293
02:21:54,020 --> 02:21:55,940
global economy for the American companies.

4294
02:21:56,560 --> 02:21:58,200
In other words, there's some bribes involved.

4295
02:21:58,500 --> 02:22:00,360
So what is the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act?

4296
02:22:00,540 --> 02:22:02,560
How do you run afoul of it?

4297
02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:05,260
Well, that's a good...

4298
02:22:05,260 --> 02:22:07,500
That actually can be answered if I just

4299
02:22:07,500 --> 02:22:10,900
go back a page, because it showed up.

4300
02:22:10,940 --> 02:22:12,380
So I know that's how I do not

4301
02:22:12,380 --> 02:22:13,560
run afoul of it, obviously.

4302
02:22:13,880 --> 02:22:16,740
What does the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act ban?

4303
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:18,760
That'll be probably...

4304
02:22:18,760 --> 02:22:22,400
The FCPA is a federal law enforced by

4305
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:25,820
the Department of Justice which prohibits payments, gifts,

4306
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:28,680
or even offers of anything of value to

4307
02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:31,600
a foreign official for the purpose of influencing

4308
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:35,240
the official or otherwise securing any improper advantage

4309
02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:39,500
in obtaining, retaining, or directing business.

4310
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:41,900
So we're bribing foreign...

4311
02:22:41,900 --> 02:22:42,840
Yes, exactly.

4312
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:44,460
And who's doing that?

4313
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:45,740
Just is it Trump doing that?

4314
02:22:45,820 --> 02:22:47,140
I think this is targeted.

4315
02:22:47,440 --> 02:22:49,780
This has to be targeted to somebody or

4316
02:22:49,780 --> 02:22:50,320
other.

4317
02:22:50,420 --> 02:22:50,860
China.

4318
02:22:51,020 --> 02:22:53,100
I think Anonymous is onto something.

4319
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:54,080
He's onto something here.

4320
02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:55,060
Well, thank you.

4321
02:22:55,060 --> 02:22:55,700
But it's only going to go on for

4322
02:22:55,700 --> 02:22:56,540
180 days.

4323
02:22:56,620 --> 02:22:59,040
So the period of bribery is...

4324
02:22:59,040 --> 02:22:59,660
Get in now.

4325
02:23:00,100 --> 02:23:02,480
While the stocks last, people, get your bribes

4326
02:23:02,480 --> 02:23:02,780
now.

4327
02:23:02,860 --> 02:23:04,520
It ends in about 70 days.

4328
02:23:04,660 --> 02:23:06,080
Oh, well, there's plenty of time to get

4329
02:23:06,080 --> 02:23:06,660
some bribes.

4330
02:23:06,940 --> 02:23:07,420
Oh, there's plenty.

4331
02:23:07,460 --> 02:23:09,460
You have a month or two months.

4332
02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:09,900
Nice.

4333
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:13,590
So something's up with this.

4334
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:14,810
I agree.

4335
02:23:15,250 --> 02:23:16,090
Thank you, Anonymous.

4336
02:23:16,330 --> 02:23:17,790
He knows what he's talking about.

4337
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:19,590
He's always bringing...

4338
02:23:20,130 --> 02:23:20,570
It probably cost him...

4339
02:23:20,570 --> 02:23:21,570
Probably a country.

4340
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:22,930
He probably lost a contract.

4341
02:23:23,130 --> 02:23:23,730
Oh, yeah.

4342
02:23:23,850 --> 02:23:25,330
Or a country could be.

4343
02:23:25,980 --> 02:23:26,330
Yeah.

4344
02:23:27,890 --> 02:23:28,790
All right.

4345
02:23:29,530 --> 02:23:29,910
You're up.

4346
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:30,950
Onward.

4347
02:23:31,870 --> 02:23:33,010
Oh, is it my turn?

4348
02:23:33,130 --> 02:23:33,370
Yes.

4349
02:23:34,190 --> 02:23:41,070
Ah, Nepal Plummer in Rexburg, Idaho, 333.33.

4350
02:23:42,770 --> 02:23:45,630
And this is greetings from Rexburg in Eastern

4351
02:23:45,630 --> 02:23:49,110
Idaho, home of the BYU, Idaho, where students

4352
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:53,510
get Ivy League ROI on a ramen budget.

4353
02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:55,510
Oh, okay.

4354
02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:57,670
I stumbled on a No Agenda show a

4355
02:23:57,670 --> 02:23:59,750
few months ago, and it quickly became the

4356
02:23:59,750 --> 02:24:01,310
only podcast I listened to.

4357
02:24:02,150 --> 02:24:04,970
Because we're the only podcast you should listen

4358
02:24:04,970 --> 02:24:05,170
to.

4359
02:24:05,330 --> 02:24:05,910
Well, there's that.

4360
02:24:05,970 --> 02:24:09,230
Mostly because it's cheaper than therapy and twice

4361
02:24:09,230 --> 02:24:09,830
as effective.

4362
02:24:10,410 --> 02:24:11,510
Oh, there's an endorsement.

4363
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:14,410
I get incredible value from this show and

4364
02:24:14,410 --> 02:24:16,670
have been hitting folks in the mouth, but

4365
02:24:16,670 --> 02:24:19,430
apparently critical thinking isn't contagious.

4366
02:24:19,810 --> 02:24:21,770
I'd like to request a de-douching.

4367
02:24:23,370 --> 02:24:25,190
You've been de-douched.

4368
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:27,190
He wraps it up, but thank you for

4369
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:27,830
your courage.

4370
02:24:27,970 --> 02:24:28,870
Oh, nice one.

4371
02:24:29,210 --> 02:24:33,110
Jim Watts is in Whistler, British Columbia, home

4372
02:24:33,110 --> 02:24:36,870
of the Calgary Stampede, but nearby at least.

4373
02:24:36,990 --> 02:24:37,690
I've been to Whistler.

4374
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:40,070
I have skied Whistler back in the day.

4375
02:24:40,330 --> 02:24:42,790
240, Associate Executive Producer is where we're at

4376
02:24:42,790 --> 02:24:43,090
already.

4377
02:24:43,470 --> 02:24:45,450
Please find my annual Cinco de Mayo birthday

4378
02:24:45,450 --> 02:24:48,230
donation of 333 Canadian.

4379
02:24:48,510 --> 02:24:49,690
Ah, he gets moved up.

4380
02:24:49,810 --> 02:24:51,210
You become an executive producer.

4381
02:24:51,310 --> 02:24:52,790
We still honor your dollarettes.

4382
02:24:52,790 --> 02:24:55,430
Living the life of Riley down here on

4383
02:24:55,430 --> 02:24:55,910
the Baja.

4384
02:24:56,350 --> 02:24:57,390
Bumper sticker of the day.

4385
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:59,670
Is it Baja or Baja?

4386
02:24:59,890 --> 02:25:00,750
Baja, presume.

4387
02:25:00,950 --> 02:25:01,230
Baja.

4388
02:25:01,590 --> 02:25:02,890
Bumper sticker of the day.

4389
02:25:03,090 --> 02:25:05,570
Ask your doctor if Baja is right for

4390
02:25:05,570 --> 02:25:05,850
you.

4391
02:25:06,510 --> 02:25:07,670
Parking Karma, please.

4392
02:25:07,850 --> 02:25:10,130
Jim Watts, PhD, the Baron of Whistler.

4393
02:25:10,310 --> 02:25:11,810
You got your karma right here, doctor.

4394
02:25:11,890 --> 02:25:13,270
You've got karma.

4395
02:25:15,850 --> 02:25:18,690
I have never taken this drive, but supposedly

4396
02:25:18,690 --> 02:25:22,830
the most beautiful drive in the world is

4397
02:25:22,830 --> 02:25:24,310
from Whistler to Vancouver.

4398
02:25:24,770 --> 02:25:28,050
Or yes, it takes about two hours if

4399
02:25:28,050 --> 02:25:28,770
I can recall.

4400
02:25:29,550 --> 02:25:32,090
It's beautiful, but it's like, it's two hours.

4401
02:25:34,450 --> 02:25:36,050
Well, it takes four and a half hours

4402
02:25:36,050 --> 02:25:38,370
to drive to L.A. and it's not

4403
02:25:38,370 --> 02:25:39,210
pretty at all.

4404
02:25:39,230 --> 02:25:42,310
There's no reason to do that at all.

4405
02:25:42,470 --> 02:25:42,770
No.

4406
02:25:44,650 --> 02:25:46,150
BioPros in Austin, Texas.

4407
02:25:47,130 --> 02:25:48,850
Uh, I don't want to attach a note

4408
02:25:48,850 --> 02:25:49,230
here.

4409
02:25:49,410 --> 02:25:50,210
Let's see if I got it.

4410
02:25:51,490 --> 02:25:53,090
Bio, what is this number here?

4411
02:25:54,810 --> 02:25:56,150
It's 222, 222.

4412
02:25:56,210 --> 02:25:56,590
Do you have it?

4413
02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:57,190
I don't have it.

4414
02:25:57,550 --> 02:25:59,390
Oh, I think it's attached to the scans.

4415
02:25:59,550 --> 02:26:00,070
Let me see.

4416
02:26:00,250 --> 02:26:01,270
No, let me see if I can find

4417
02:26:01,270 --> 02:26:01,490
it.

4418
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:02,850
Um, I may have it here.

4419
02:26:02,930 --> 02:26:03,350
Let me see.

4420
02:26:03,450 --> 02:26:05,670
Ah, the BioPros, Driftwood, Texas.

4421
02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:09,870
Uh, 222.21, which is four number twos

4422
02:26:09,870 --> 02:26:10,610
and one number one.

4423
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:11,230
Thanks for that.

4424
02:26:11,310 --> 02:26:12,970
Thank you, Crackpot and Buzzkill, and to all

4425
02:26:12,970 --> 02:26:13,830
the No Agenda producers.

4426
02:26:13,990 --> 02:26:16,350
The BioPros.com experienced one of its best

4427
02:26:16,350 --> 02:26:19,330
sales week after our initial sponsorship.

4428
02:26:20,050 --> 02:26:21,190
There's no sponsors.

4429
02:26:23,290 --> 02:26:24,770
Oh, I see what they're trying to do

4430
02:26:24,770 --> 02:26:25,010
here.

4431
02:26:25,250 --> 02:26:26,510
Yeah, we're not, you know, you got to

4432
02:26:26,510 --> 02:26:27,970
be careful what you're doing here with your

4433
02:26:27,970 --> 02:26:28,830
donation notes.

4434
02:26:29,570 --> 02:26:32,090
The BioPros.com experienced one of its best

4435
02:26:32,090 --> 02:26:33,730
sales weeks after our initial sponsorship.

4436
02:26:33,890 --> 02:26:35,310
Small business owners take heed.

4437
02:26:35,430 --> 02:26:37,350
Value for value works both ways.

4438
02:26:37,970 --> 02:26:38,450
Oh, really?

4439
02:26:39,150 --> 02:26:42,450
Our flagship product, BioSeptic Pro, was developed in

4440
02:26:42,450 --> 02:26:44,250
the wake of Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

4441
02:26:44,250 --> 02:26:45,890
Oh, these guys, the septic guys.

4442
02:26:46,530 --> 02:26:47,390
The poop guys.

4443
02:26:49,030 --> 02:26:50,590
The bio poop guys.

4444
02:26:51,130 --> 02:26:53,430
As an alternative to the toxic Corexit that

4445
02:26:53,430 --> 02:26:55,690
was being sprayed as a dispersant in the

4446
02:26:55,690 --> 02:26:56,430
Gulf of America.

4447
02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:57,250
Oh, I didn't know that.

4448
02:26:57,310 --> 02:27:00,010
That's an interesting history.

4449
02:27:00,610 --> 02:27:02,990
Anyway, this same technology is now available to

4450
02:27:02,990 --> 02:27:03,850
No Agenda producers.

4451
02:27:04,450 --> 02:27:06,210
If you go to the BioPros.com, use

4452
02:27:06,210 --> 02:27:08,850
code ITM20 at checkout for additional 20%

4453
02:27:08,850 --> 02:27:09,510
off.

4454
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:12,850
BioSeptic Pro is like probiotics for your septic

4455
02:27:12,850 --> 02:27:13,130
tank.

4456
02:27:13,530 --> 02:27:14,850
And this is the thing that I keep

4457
02:27:14,850 --> 02:27:15,610
asking about.

4458
02:27:15,610 --> 02:27:18,230
Designed for anaerobic septic systems.

4459
02:27:18,590 --> 02:27:19,770
This is what I have.

4460
02:27:19,890 --> 02:27:20,890
Send me some product.

4461
02:27:21,710 --> 02:27:24,010
You know, if you're going to send these

4462
02:27:24,010 --> 02:27:26,530
notes, I can say it's great or not.

4463
02:27:27,430 --> 02:27:28,530
Yeah, if it works.

4464
02:27:28,670 --> 02:27:33,210
The fact that I have the exact system

4465
02:27:33,210 --> 02:27:37,270
that they service with their goo.

4466
02:27:37,550 --> 02:27:38,050
Goo.

4467
02:27:39,330 --> 02:27:40,530
You need it.

4468
02:27:40,750 --> 02:27:42,750
And I'm surprised they haven't sent it to

4469
02:27:42,750 --> 02:27:43,150
me yet.

4470
02:27:43,510 --> 02:27:44,410
This makes me wonder.

4471
02:27:44,410 --> 02:27:46,410
I'm surprised that I haven't gotten anything from

4472
02:27:46,410 --> 02:27:49,810
anyone from Florida either regarding the Gators' win

4473
02:27:49,810 --> 02:27:51,110
of the basketball championship.

4474
02:27:51,390 --> 02:27:52,970
So apparently this BioSeptic.

4475
02:27:52,970 --> 02:27:56,350
And I guess we're also worried about our

4476
02:27:56,350 --> 02:27:58,070
coffee supplies, Don, which.

4477
02:27:58,870 --> 02:27:59,690
Yes, I haven't.

4478
02:27:59,990 --> 02:28:02,410
Eli the coffee guy also has not resupplied

4479
02:28:02,410 --> 02:28:02,510
us.

4480
02:28:03,330 --> 02:28:04,270
All the free.

4481
02:28:04,510 --> 02:28:05,830
All the free stuff is gone.

4482
02:28:05,830 --> 02:28:07,270
The only reason we do this show.

4483
02:28:07,290 --> 02:28:08,330
Is for free stuff.

4484
02:28:08,990 --> 02:28:09,810
Come on, people.

4485
02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:12,370
I mean, we got lots of challenge coins,

4486
02:28:12,430 --> 02:28:14,150
but it's time for some free stuff.

4487
02:28:14,750 --> 02:28:18,150
Anyway, this BioSeptic Pro apparently, I don't know

4488
02:28:18,150 --> 02:28:21,450
for sure, digests grease, fats, oil, sludge, paper,

4489
02:28:21,490 --> 02:28:23,490
and organic matter, which is code for poop,

4490
02:28:23,810 --> 02:28:24,310
with ease.

4491
02:28:24,810 --> 02:28:26,650
Contains no chemicals, no GMOs.

4492
02:28:26,750 --> 02:28:28,290
It's safe for all pipes, plumbing, and pets.

4493
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:29,170
I added that.

4494
02:28:29,510 --> 02:28:31,650
Oh no, actual human and animal safe.

4495
02:28:31,870 --> 02:28:33,770
You should make it pipes, plumbing, and pets.

4496
02:28:33,930 --> 02:28:35,530
I'm just, I'm writing copy for you.

4497
02:28:35,690 --> 02:28:36,130
PPP.

4498
02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:38,970
Say goodbye to a smelly septic system by

4499
02:28:38,970 --> 02:28:40,650
heading over to thebiopros.com.

4500
02:28:40,710 --> 02:28:44,070
Please pray the official biopros.com jingle, which

4501
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:45,030
is this one.

4502
02:28:45,150 --> 02:28:46,850
They did dumps.

4503
02:28:47,150 --> 02:28:48,230
They call them dumps.

4504
02:28:48,250 --> 02:28:49,790
Big, massive dumps.

4505
02:28:50,730 --> 02:28:52,430
Plumbing and goat karma for all.

4506
02:28:52,590 --> 02:28:54,850
Thank you, Crockpot and Buzzkill, the OG value

4507
02:28:54,850 --> 02:28:56,150
for value ambassadors.

4508
02:29:00,070 --> 02:29:02,090
Send me some of your goo.

4509
02:29:02,510 --> 02:29:03,330
Michael S.

4510
02:29:03,370 --> 02:29:06,450
in Knightdale, North Carolina, 211 65.

4511
02:29:07,070 --> 02:29:09,370
My daughter is under one.

4512
02:29:09,370 --> 02:29:13,130
So please record the lecture on media literacy.

4513
02:29:13,870 --> 02:29:16,350
Ah, she's talking, this is aimed at you.

4514
02:29:16,890 --> 02:29:19,710
Or at least prepare a slideshow with links

4515
02:29:19,710 --> 02:29:20,330
to audio.

4516
02:29:20,590 --> 02:29:22,050
This is, again, aiming at you.

4517
02:29:22,130 --> 02:29:22,770
This is you.

4518
02:29:23,550 --> 02:29:25,730
The children of tomorrow need you.

4519
02:29:26,250 --> 02:29:28,950
John, let me hear, uh-oh, and I

4520
02:29:28,950 --> 02:29:30,030
love my truck.

4521
02:29:30,110 --> 02:29:30,530
Thank you.

4522
02:29:31,430 --> 02:29:32,790
Okay, I can do that.

4523
02:29:37,020 --> 02:29:43,440
That should be, at minimum, an executive producer

4524
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:43,940
request.

4525
02:29:43,940 --> 02:29:45,860
I mean, that's like, that's live, maybe.

4526
02:29:46,060 --> 02:29:47,720
That's stuff we're doing live.

4527
02:29:48,460 --> 02:29:49,000
I'm just saying.

4528
02:29:50,300 --> 02:29:52,520
Uh, Steve Down, who is this?

4529
02:29:53,300 --> 02:29:55,480
Yeah, you should be, we should be upselling

4530
02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:56,020
everybody.

4531
02:29:56,260 --> 02:29:57,840
Are you going to record the lecture on

4532
02:29:57,840 --> 02:29:58,620
mental literacy?

4533
02:29:59,140 --> 02:30:01,380
Mental literacy?

4534
02:30:01,580 --> 02:30:03,600
I'm not doing anything on mental literacy.

4535
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:05,840
I'm doing something on propaganda.

4536
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:06,800
Propaganda.

4537
02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:08,760
Well, that's media literacy.

4538
02:30:08,980 --> 02:30:09,700
No, it's not.

4539
02:30:09,780 --> 02:30:10,840
It's about propaganda.

4540
02:30:11,280 --> 02:30:12,720
I'm just going to play some super cuts,

4541
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:14,280
and then mic drop, and I'm out.

4542
02:30:14,900 --> 02:30:16,320
Okay, thanks for coming, kids.

4543
02:30:17,100 --> 02:30:20,260
Steve Downtown Brown, Monticello, Indiana, 210.

4544
02:30:20,780 --> 02:30:21,540
Switcheroo, he says.

4545
02:30:21,620 --> 02:30:23,260
This is for my good buddy, Jason Meyer,

4546
02:30:23,600 --> 02:30:25,660
who first introduced me to your show.

4547
02:30:26,500 --> 02:30:28,180
His birthday was Tuesday, and on the same

4548
02:30:28,180 --> 02:30:30,960
day, he passed his CISSP exam.

4549
02:30:32,220 --> 02:30:33,620
Okay, what is that?

4550
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:35,380
Yeah, it's a, yeah.

4551
02:30:35,780 --> 02:30:37,420
Is that some kind of computer thing?

4552
02:30:38,180 --> 02:30:40,060
I, I'll look it up as you read.

4553
02:30:40,200 --> 02:30:41,940
Please make sure he gets the credit for

4554
02:30:41,940 --> 02:30:42,600
this donation.

4555
02:30:42,600 --> 02:30:44,360
With some extra for any fees.

4556
02:30:44,500 --> 02:30:45,480
Absolutely, Jason Meyer.

4557
02:30:45,480 --> 02:30:47,740
Why am I closing my browsers constantly?

4558
02:30:49,180 --> 02:30:51,020
This is an excellent question.

4559
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:53,680
It borderlines on a great question, because this

4560
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:55,640
is a podcast where we look stuff up,

4561
02:30:55,700 --> 02:30:56,300
book a knowledge.

4562
02:30:56,440 --> 02:30:58,120
You should never be closing your browser.

4563
02:30:58,560 --> 02:30:59,120
And by the way.

4564
02:30:59,140 --> 02:31:00,740
I think I'm clicking on the wrong thing.

4565
02:31:00,740 --> 02:31:02,200
Just admit you're using Edge.

4566
02:31:02,700 --> 02:31:03,400
We all know it.

4567
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:07,120
Official, I use Firefox, which is worse.

4568
02:31:08,500 --> 02:31:10,740
Certified information system security professional.

4569
02:31:10,940 --> 02:31:11,420
Got it.

4570
02:31:11,420 --> 02:31:13,100
It's because of my browsers open.

4571
02:31:15,310 --> 02:31:16,790
Well, then I didn't need to do all

4572
02:31:16,790 --> 02:31:17,150
that work.

4573
02:31:17,170 --> 02:31:17,430
No, you didn't.

4574
02:31:17,550 --> 02:31:17,910
You didn't.

4575
02:31:18,010 --> 02:31:18,850
And our last one.

4576
02:31:18,930 --> 02:31:19,570
Go for it.

4577
02:31:20,090 --> 02:31:21,490
Yeah, Linda Lou Patkins here.

4578
02:31:21,570 --> 02:31:22,690
She's from Lakewood, Colorado.

4579
02:31:22,810 --> 02:31:24,770
And she drops in 200 bucks into the

4580
02:31:24,770 --> 02:31:25,010
pot.

4581
02:31:25,710 --> 02:31:26,970
Wants jobs karma.

4582
02:31:27,430 --> 02:31:29,810
And says for a competitive edge with a

4583
02:31:29,810 --> 02:31:32,890
resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc for

4584
02:31:32,890 --> 02:31:36,410
all your executive resume and job search needs.

4585
02:31:36,490 --> 02:31:40,570
That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com.

4586
02:31:40,630 --> 02:31:42,390
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

4587
02:31:42,390 --> 02:31:43,490
writer of resumes.

4588
02:31:43,910 --> 02:31:47,170
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

4589
02:31:47,370 --> 02:31:48,870
Let's vote for jobs.

4590
02:31:52,650 --> 02:31:55,310
OK, so Eli, the coffee guy is MIA.

4591
02:31:56,150 --> 02:31:57,670
Yes, because he's sending us coffee.

4592
02:31:57,790 --> 02:31:58,710
He figures that's good enough.

4593
02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:59,490
No, it's not.

4594
02:32:00,130 --> 02:32:00,610
But OK.

4595
02:32:02,330 --> 02:32:04,910
I did get a make good request from

4596
02:32:04,910 --> 02:32:05,570
Sir Haggis.

4597
02:32:05,650 --> 02:32:06,990
We do break for nights, he says.

4598
02:32:07,070 --> 02:32:07,870
I need to ask a favor.

4599
02:32:07,970 --> 02:32:10,090
When I donated on April 24th for my

4600
02:32:10,090 --> 02:32:12,450
50th birthday, I forgot to ask you to

4601
02:32:12,450 --> 02:32:14,590
play my jingle that I forgot to attach

4602
02:32:14,590 --> 02:32:15,530
to the donation email.

4603
02:32:15,690 --> 02:32:17,430
Well, it's clearly your fault, Sir Haggis.

4604
02:32:17,850 --> 02:32:19,130
Would it be out of the question just

4605
02:32:19,130 --> 02:32:20,690
throw this in somewhere to make up for

4606
02:32:20,690 --> 02:32:21,530
my hopeless memory?

4607
02:32:21,870 --> 02:32:23,110
I'll understand if not.

4608
02:32:23,170 --> 02:32:25,070
Well, that's not how we operate, Sir Haggis.

4609
02:32:25,150 --> 02:32:25,970
We break for nights.

4610
02:32:27,070 --> 02:32:27,790
There you go.

4611
02:32:27,930 --> 02:32:28,790
That was his jingle.

4612
02:32:29,250 --> 02:32:32,330
OK, that's a little Gourier and goat together.

4613
02:32:33,250 --> 02:32:35,430
Thank you to these executive and associate executive

4614
02:32:35,430 --> 02:32:39,550
producers for supporting us for episode 1762.

4615
02:32:40,110 --> 02:32:41,670
We thank you very much for this.

4616
02:32:41,750 --> 02:32:43,790
And of course, you will be thanked if

4617
02:32:43,790 --> 02:32:46,090
you're $50 or above at any point.

4618
02:32:46,510 --> 02:32:48,150
We'll be doing that in our second segment.

4619
02:32:48,290 --> 02:32:49,550
And you can always set up a recurring

4620
02:32:49,550 --> 02:32:49,930
donation.

4621
02:32:50,090 --> 02:32:52,030
These are incredibly useful to us and good

4622
02:32:52,030 --> 02:32:52,970
and easy for you.

4623
02:32:53,110 --> 02:32:56,470
Any amount, any donation, any frequency, all you

4624
02:32:56,470 --> 02:32:58,610
have to do is go to noagendadonations.com.

4625
02:32:58,670 --> 02:33:00,510
And again, thank you to our executive and

4626
02:33:00,510 --> 02:33:02,990
associate executive producers for 1762.

4627
02:33:03,150 --> 02:33:04,430
Our formula is this.

4628
02:33:05,310 --> 02:33:07,530
We go out, we hit people in the

4629
02:33:07,530 --> 02:33:07,730
mouth.

4630
02:33:22,110 --> 02:33:23,730
I do have a clip I want to

4631
02:33:23,730 --> 02:33:25,470
get out of the way, which was did

4632
02:33:25,470 --> 02:33:26,810
have to do with the pope, but it

4633
02:33:26,810 --> 02:33:29,670
was about the conclave, specifically some producers.

4634
02:33:29,870 --> 02:33:31,730
And I thought it was interesting because it

4635
02:33:31,730 --> 02:33:32,510
brings up a point.

4636
02:33:32,590 --> 02:33:33,930
I've never heard this term.

4637
02:33:33,970 --> 02:33:35,210
I don't know anything about it.

4638
02:33:35,670 --> 02:33:37,830
This was during a one or two hour

4639
02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:41,050
special with Nora O'Donnell and somebody else sitting

4640
02:33:41,050 --> 02:33:44,550
in the plaza there, just across from the

4641
02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:47,390
Sistine Chapel, yakking away about nothing.

4642
02:33:48,150 --> 02:33:50,930
But this commentary came through it.

4643
02:33:51,230 --> 02:33:52,710
And I thought it would be worth the,

4644
02:33:52,810 --> 02:33:54,770
this is, this one is not topic.

4645
02:33:54,910 --> 02:33:55,930
It's not, it has nothing to do with

4646
02:33:55,930 --> 02:33:58,210
the pope selection at all, but play this

4647
02:33:58,210 --> 02:33:59,850
clip is the conclave clip.

4648
02:34:00,430 --> 02:34:02,450
The one thing we know they're not doing

4649
02:34:02,450 --> 02:34:05,990
is checking Instagram because their devices have all

4650
02:34:05,990 --> 02:34:06,350
been confiscated.

4651
02:34:06,350 --> 02:34:08,710
I believe the kids call it raw dogging

4652
02:34:08,710 --> 02:34:08,910
it.

4653
02:34:09,010 --> 02:34:10,030
If you're going to go through a long

4654
02:34:10,030 --> 02:34:11,870
period of time with no electronic device.

4655
02:34:11,890 --> 02:34:12,050
Yeah.

4656
02:34:12,130 --> 02:34:12,590
Oh, right.

4657
02:34:12,730 --> 02:34:14,170
Well, they're of a certain age, so they

4658
02:34:14,170 --> 02:34:14,830
might be used.

4659
02:34:17,210 --> 02:34:20,070
Have you ever heard this term raw dogging?

4660
02:34:20,490 --> 02:34:22,270
I've heard kids call it raw dogging.

4661
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:26,030
Well, it is a sex term from, from

4662
02:34:26,030 --> 02:34:27,090
where I come from.

4663
02:34:27,770 --> 02:34:30,450
Raw dogging is having sex without use of

4664
02:34:30,450 --> 02:34:31,830
a prophylactic.

4665
02:34:34,380 --> 02:34:36,360
That's how I've always understood.

4666
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:38,960
Somebody slipped it in there.

4667
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:43,200
Then somebody, this is a little, I think

4668
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:44,660
this was a plant.

4669
02:34:44,740 --> 02:34:46,060
One of those things that you slip into

4670
02:34:46,060 --> 02:34:49,780
the mainstream media to embarrass people.

4671
02:34:52,220 --> 02:34:53,180
Yeah, probably.

4672
02:34:53,420 --> 02:34:55,100
Although I've heard it, I've heard it used

4673
02:34:55,100 --> 02:35:00,880
in, in other terms than, than unprotected sex.

4674
02:35:01,060 --> 02:35:01,420
I've heard it.

4675
02:35:01,660 --> 02:35:03,600
Yeah, but I don't see the connection between

4676
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:07,160
unprotected sex and not using your phone.

4677
02:35:10,160 --> 02:35:12,120
The connection, this is elusive.

4678
02:35:12,500 --> 02:35:13,780
I'm just telling you, let me see what

4679
02:35:13,780 --> 02:35:17,020
the, the trolls say.

4680
02:35:17,420 --> 02:35:19,160
No, no, I don't know.

4681
02:35:19,580 --> 02:35:22,440
I think this was planted as a, as

4682
02:35:22,440 --> 02:35:24,940
a joke, as a wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

4683
02:35:25,260 --> 02:35:27,520
Or it can also be no, no lube.

4684
02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:28,840
That can be another version.

4685
02:35:28,960 --> 02:35:30,200
You're just making it up now.

4686
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:30,920
Aren't you trolls?

4687
02:35:31,060 --> 02:35:31,520
You just met.

4688
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:33,340
It's like a stick fight, basically.

4689
02:35:33,340 --> 02:35:34,700
Raw dogging on the stick fight.

4690
02:35:35,700 --> 02:35:40,780
So I'm getting incoming that the new Pope,

4691
02:35:41,340 --> 02:35:45,380
Leo XIV, is no big President Trump fan.

4692
02:35:46,940 --> 02:35:48,160
That's why they picked him then.

4693
02:35:48,400 --> 02:35:48,680
Yep.

4694
02:35:49,600 --> 02:35:52,360
He has posted in the past, now this

4695
02:35:52,360 --> 02:35:56,260
is before he was president in 2016, that

4696
02:35:56,260 --> 02:35:58,620
his anti-immigrant rhetoric is problematic.

4697
02:36:02,960 --> 02:36:06,280
He, what, oh, here's something more recent.

4698
02:36:07,620 --> 02:36:10,040
Yeah, I think he may not be a

4699
02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:11,180
fan of President Trump.

4700
02:36:11,780 --> 02:36:12,300
We'll see.

4701
02:36:12,680 --> 02:36:13,520
It doesn't have to be.

4702
02:36:13,800 --> 02:36:14,320
That's fine.

4703
02:36:14,880 --> 02:36:17,760
It doesn't have to be, but that may

4704
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:20,480
have helped in the, in God's choice, I

4705
02:36:20,480 --> 02:36:20,700
guess.

4706
02:36:21,460 --> 02:36:23,020
Yeah, not sure how that works.

4707
02:36:23,260 --> 02:36:24,920
Well, speaking of raw dogging, baby.

4708
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:28,960
Decorated musical executive, producer and songwriter, 85-year

4709
02:36:28,960 --> 02:36:31,420
-old William Smokey Robinson coming under fire.

4710
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:34,740
Four of his former housekeepers alleged repeated and

4711
02:36:34,740 --> 02:36:37,240
brutal sexual assaults and harassment at the hands

4712
02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:38,340
of their former boss.

4713
02:36:38,580 --> 02:36:40,800
I will not describe the details of the

4714
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:43,720
sexual assaults and rapes because they're too graphic

4715
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:46,640
and disturbing for this news conference.

4716
02:36:47,020 --> 02:36:49,340
The first alleged victim said Robinson assaulted her

4717
02:36:49,340 --> 02:36:52,140
seven times in one year, targeting her during

4718
02:36:52,140 --> 02:36:53,280
her weekend shift.

4719
02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:56,140
A second plaintiff contends the musician would ask

4720
02:36:56,140 --> 02:36:57,520
her to meet him in parts of his

4721
02:36:57,520 --> 02:37:00,200
Chatsworth home where he knew there weren't any

4722
02:37:00,200 --> 02:37:03,820
cameras and sexually abused her 23 times over

4723
02:37:03,820 --> 02:37:04,940
a number of years.

4724
02:37:05,360 --> 02:37:07,740
A third recalled Mr. Robinson calling her into

4725
02:37:07,740 --> 02:37:10,200
his blue bedroom and assaulting her a total

4726
02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:11,240
of 20 times.

4727
02:37:11,860 --> 02:37:14,040
The fourth woman and the longest serving employee

4728
02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:17,020
was allegedly raped in three of the singer's

4729
02:37:17,020 --> 02:37:20,140
homes while employed between 2006 and 2024.

4730
02:37:20,940 --> 02:37:22,780
All four plaintiffs say they were reticent to

4731
02:37:22,780 --> 02:37:24,880
report the abuse, fearing they would lose their

4732
02:37:24,880 --> 02:37:28,180
jobs and felt intimidated by Robinson's celebrity status.

4733
02:37:28,620 --> 02:37:31,180
He's a music legend who's written more than

4734
02:37:31,180 --> 02:37:33,560
4,000 songs and has been inducted into

4735
02:37:33,560 --> 02:37:35,040
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

4736
02:37:35,240 --> 02:37:37,680
At least one person also worried about adverse

4737
02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:39,660
effects to her immigration status.

4738
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:42,040
And we did reach out to Smokey Robinson's

4739
02:37:42,040 --> 02:37:42,780
management team.

4740
02:37:42,880 --> 02:37:44,080
We haven't yet heard back.

4741
02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:45,840
The district attorney tells me that it has

4742
02:37:45,840 --> 02:37:48,460
not received a case from law enforcement and

4743
02:37:48,460 --> 02:37:50,460
therefore it will not be filing any kind

4744
02:37:50,460 --> 02:37:51,880
of criminal charges at this point.

4745
02:37:51,880 --> 02:37:53,640
Oh, what is that?

4746
02:37:54,380 --> 02:37:57,760
Like, they're smirching his name at 85.

4747
02:37:58,300 --> 02:37:58,600
Poor Smokey.

4748
02:37:58,640 --> 02:38:01,040
And going back 27 times, this reminds me

4749
02:38:01,040 --> 02:38:03,520
of the bear joke, which has the punchline,

4750
02:38:03,580 --> 02:38:05,680
I won't tell the joke, but people out

4751
02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:07,360
there know this joke where the bear says,

4752
02:38:07,460 --> 02:38:09,560
you didn't come here for the hunting, did

4753
02:38:09,560 --> 02:38:09,700
you?

4754
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:14,580
Meanwhile, in Brazil, when they don't like an

4755
02:38:14,580 --> 02:38:16,400
artist, they take care of the artist in

4756
02:38:16,400 --> 02:38:17,880
a different way, particularly if there may be

4757
02:38:17,880 --> 02:38:20,520
some satanic over or undertones with that artist.

4758
02:38:20,520 --> 02:38:21,960
We gotta get to something pretty serious.

4759
02:38:22,120 --> 02:38:24,480
There are two suspects in custody this morning

4760
02:38:24,480 --> 02:38:27,280
for allegedly planning to bomb a Lady Gaga

4761
02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:28,400
concert in Brazil.

4762
02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:32,140
So police say that these suspects were targeting

4763
02:38:32,140 --> 02:38:35,460
the LGBTQ community and that they attempted to

4764
02:38:35,460 --> 02:38:38,320
recruit people, including teenagers, to carry out attacks

4765
02:38:38,320 --> 02:38:39,440
at Saturday's concert.

4766
02:38:39,900 --> 02:38:43,480
The weapons, improvised explosives, Molotov cocktails.

4767
02:38:43,860 --> 02:38:46,180
Investigators say a group that promotes hate speech

4768
02:38:46,180 --> 02:38:48,680
and encourages violence among teens orchestrated this.

4769
02:38:48,680 --> 02:38:51,340
One of them allegedly had an even darker

4770
02:38:51,340 --> 02:38:51,800
plan.

4771
02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:57,820
He claimed the singer had a satanist religious

4772
02:38:57,820 --> 02:39:00,760
inclination and as such, he would respond in

4773
02:39:00,760 --> 02:39:02,700
the same way and that he would also

4774
02:39:02,700 --> 02:39:04,980
promote a satanist ritual by killing a child

4775
02:39:04,980 --> 02:39:06,620
or a baby in a live stream during

4776
02:39:06,620 --> 02:39:07,100
the show.

4777
02:39:07,260 --> 02:39:08,180
Oh, all right.

4778
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:09,100
Lady Gaga.

4779
02:39:11,120 --> 02:39:12,960
We live in a fallen world.

4780
02:39:13,660 --> 02:39:14,440
Okay, yes.

4781
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:17,860
Not about the guys who tried to bomb,

4782
02:39:17,860 --> 02:39:20,640
but about the two million people that supposedly

4783
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:21,680
were at this event.

4784
02:39:24,340 --> 02:39:27,300
Brazilians are notorious exaggerators.

4785
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:30,640
And this goes back to, I don't know,

4786
02:39:30,700 --> 02:39:33,040
the late 80s or 90s and Jerry Purnell

4787
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:35,260
and I were invited down to the biggest

4788
02:39:35,260 --> 02:39:38,380
tech event in the world, the one in

4789
02:39:38,380 --> 02:39:38,620
Brazil.

4790
02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:40,620
With hundreds of thousands of attendees.

4791
02:39:41,180 --> 02:39:42,880
No, no, two million.

4792
02:39:43,140 --> 02:39:44,360
Millions, I tell you.

4793
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:49,320
So Jerry and I both still had stakeouts

4794
02:39:49,320 --> 02:39:51,120
in different parts of the show where you

4795
02:39:51,120 --> 02:39:52,260
could count.

4796
02:39:52,380 --> 02:39:54,260
There's only one or two entrances and so

4797
02:39:54,260 --> 02:39:57,660
you could do a one hour calculation and

4798
02:39:57,660 --> 02:39:59,240
figure out what the number was and we'd

4799
02:39:59,240 --> 02:40:01,780
come up with our own number and compare

4800
02:40:01,780 --> 02:40:01,960
them.

4801
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:03,780
And we both came up with pretty much

4802
02:40:03,780 --> 02:40:04,460
the same number.

4803
02:40:04,760 --> 02:40:06,360
The maximum number of people they could have

4804
02:40:06,360 --> 02:40:09,760
possibly had is 200,000, maybe.

4805
02:40:10,540 --> 02:40:12,720
As opposed to the two million that they

4806
02:40:12,720 --> 02:40:13,120
claimed.

4807
02:40:13,120 --> 02:40:15,520
And then I've also seen a picture of

4808
02:40:15,520 --> 02:40:18,860
the National Mall in Washington, D.C. that

4809
02:40:18,860 --> 02:40:19,870
had 500,000.

4810
02:40:20,900 --> 02:40:24,680
And this little group in Rio at the

4811
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:28,140
beach on Ipanema, which I've been to, there's

4812
02:40:28,140 --> 02:40:30,080
no way it was more than maybe 50

4813
02:40:30,080 --> 02:40:30,880
,000, maybe.

4814
02:40:31,020 --> 02:40:31,980
But they say two million.

4815
02:40:32,480 --> 02:40:35,960
And I realized back with Purnell that the

4816
02:40:35,960 --> 02:40:39,900
Brazilians are prone to exaggerate because this is

4817
02:40:39,900 --> 02:40:41,640
the way their whole country started.

4818
02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:44,320
When they made a deal, when the Portuguese

4819
02:40:44,320 --> 02:40:47,840
made the deal with Spain, the Spanish says,

4820
02:40:47,920 --> 02:40:48,720
you could have whatever.

4821
02:40:49,280 --> 02:40:52,120
They told the Portuguese, just tell us what

4822
02:40:52,120 --> 02:40:54,140
the coordinates are of where you've been and

4823
02:40:54,140 --> 02:40:56,380
what you think the country is, where the

4824
02:40:56,380 --> 02:40:57,260
country's located.

4825
02:40:57,320 --> 02:40:57,960
And they went here.

4826
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:02,220
Give us the numbers and that'll be Brazil,

4827
02:41:02,320 --> 02:41:03,000
you can have it.

4828
02:41:03,860 --> 02:41:05,860
And so they weren't, nobody was up in

4829
02:41:05,860 --> 02:41:07,260
the Amazon and nobody was up there.

4830
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:09,760
They just made up some numbers and got

4831
02:41:09,760 --> 02:41:12,560
these coordinates to make the country so damn

4832
02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:13,140
big.

4833
02:41:13,260 --> 02:41:14,540
It was a lie.

4834
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:16,760
And the Brazilians do this.

4835
02:41:16,920 --> 02:41:19,240
They lie, they exaggerate.

4836
02:41:19,340 --> 02:41:21,920
It's a feature of the culture.

4837
02:41:22,220 --> 02:41:23,660
Don't believe these numbers.

4838
02:41:24,060 --> 02:41:26,160
And all these reporters that kept talking about

4839
02:41:26,160 --> 02:41:29,700
two million people at the Gaga concert are

4840
02:41:29,700 --> 02:41:30,320
full of it.

4841
02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:32,500
They could have looked and seen it was

4842
02:41:32,500 --> 02:41:34,540
not possibly two million people.

4843
02:41:34,900 --> 02:41:37,700
That's twice the entire population of San Francisco.

4844
02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:39,920
This makes a lot of sense now in

4845
02:41:39,920 --> 02:41:41,000
light of the BBL.

4846
02:41:43,940 --> 02:41:44,660
The what?

4847
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:45,760
The BBL.

4848
02:41:46,680 --> 02:41:46,980
Yeah.

4849
02:41:47,340 --> 02:41:48,740
The Brazilian butt lift.

4850
02:41:48,820 --> 02:41:50,460
They're all fake butts down there.

4851
02:41:51,020 --> 02:41:52,300
Huge, big butts.

4852
02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:53,620
And you think, oh, it's a big butt.

4853
02:41:53,700 --> 02:41:54,820
No, it's a BBL.

4854
02:41:54,900 --> 02:41:55,440
They're fakers.

4855
02:41:56,740 --> 02:41:57,860
That's good information.

4856
02:41:58,120 --> 02:41:59,400
This is the first time I've heard that.

4857
02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:02,340
Yes, and you should be aware that the

4858
02:42:02,340 --> 02:42:03,780
Brazilians exaggerate.

4859
02:42:04,380 --> 02:42:06,360
And that's all, it's a fact.

4860
02:42:06,520 --> 02:42:08,320
And if you do any reporting on Brazil,

4861
02:42:08,320 --> 02:42:09,260
you should know that.

4862
02:42:09,260 --> 02:42:12,980
I just got a insider tip here.

4863
02:42:13,640 --> 02:42:17,380
Apple apparently is considering moving to an AI

4864
02:42:17,380 --> 02:42:21,380
search, ending their deal with Google, which is

4865
02:42:21,380 --> 02:42:21,600
what?

4866
02:42:21,760 --> 02:42:24,460
Seven billion dollars or something?

4867
02:42:24,600 --> 02:42:25,940
Some outrageous amount.

4868
02:42:26,060 --> 02:42:27,760
What do they pay Google for the...

4869
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:29,220
What does Google pay them for search?

4870
02:42:29,480 --> 02:42:30,480
I have no idea.

4871
02:42:30,660 --> 02:42:32,620
Oh, it's billions and billions.

4872
02:42:33,640 --> 02:42:36,140
And then how bad is that going to

4873
02:42:36,140 --> 02:42:36,460
suck?

4874
02:42:37,020 --> 02:42:40,140
Yeah, we're going to do AI search.

4875
02:42:40,440 --> 02:42:41,980
But you know, that's going to suck.

4876
02:42:42,480 --> 02:42:43,040
It's going to suck.

4877
02:42:43,180 --> 02:42:44,040
Hey, we have a name.

4878
02:42:44,200 --> 02:42:46,160
Just while we're doing some M5M stuff, we

4879
02:42:46,160 --> 02:42:46,640
have a name.

4880
02:42:47,680 --> 02:42:48,720
Have you heard the name?

4881
02:42:49,220 --> 02:42:49,800
The new name?

4882
02:42:50,560 --> 02:42:54,060
The new, the official name for Spinco.

4883
02:42:54,920 --> 02:42:55,300
Remember?

4884
02:42:55,520 --> 02:42:56,140
Oh, Spinco.

4885
02:42:56,300 --> 02:42:57,060
Yes, Spinco.

4886
02:42:57,480 --> 02:42:58,920
And by the way, for people who said,

4887
02:42:59,260 --> 02:43:01,960
you know, Spinco is a name that's often

4888
02:43:01,960 --> 02:43:03,460
used as a code.

4889
02:43:03,740 --> 02:43:05,280
Yeah, we knew that.

4890
02:43:05,500 --> 02:43:06,100
We knew that.

4891
02:43:06,100 --> 02:43:06,900
But we have a name.

4892
02:43:07,020 --> 02:43:08,220
We have some news close to home.

4893
02:43:08,620 --> 02:43:11,360
The group of media brands, including CNBC, that

4894
02:43:11,360 --> 02:43:14,000
are being spun off from Comcast and NBCUniversal

4895
02:43:14,000 --> 02:43:16,980
later this year, now has a name, Versant.

4896
02:43:17,340 --> 02:43:19,960
The name chosen as a blueprint for versatility,

4897
02:43:20,340 --> 02:43:21,380
growth and innovation.

4898
02:43:22,480 --> 02:43:26,040
It's spelled V-E-R-S-A-N

4899
02:43:26,040 --> 02:43:26,340
-T.

4900
02:43:26,740 --> 02:43:27,260
Versant.

4901
02:43:27,960 --> 02:43:28,480
Versant.

4902
02:43:30,340 --> 02:43:31,720
What do you think of the name?

4903
02:43:31,720 --> 02:43:33,080
I'll continue the clip in a moment.

4904
02:43:33,180 --> 02:43:34,500
What do you think of this name, John?

4905
02:43:34,600 --> 02:43:35,120
Stinks.

4906
02:43:35,300 --> 02:43:35,520
Stinks.

4907
02:43:35,520 --> 02:43:36,260
I agree.

4908
02:43:36,500 --> 02:43:37,820
And they're going to defend it here.

4909
02:43:37,940 --> 02:43:38,720
This is CNBC.

4910
02:43:38,860 --> 02:43:40,400
Part now of Versant.

4911
02:43:40,520 --> 02:43:41,680
This is the company's new logo.

4912
02:43:42,160 --> 02:43:46,300
Cable network, CNBC, MSNBC, Gulf Channel, USA, Oxygen,

4913
02:43:46,340 --> 02:43:47,520
and more will all be a part of

4914
02:43:47,520 --> 02:43:48,020
Versant now.

4915
02:43:48,380 --> 02:43:52,040
They should have called it CrazyCo.

4916
02:43:52,220 --> 02:43:54,460
That was much more catchy.

4917
02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:55,500
The trolls are better.

4918
02:43:55,860 --> 02:43:56,380
That would have worked.

4919
02:43:56,600 --> 02:43:57,840
That would have worked for me.

4920
02:43:57,900 --> 02:44:00,320
As well as digital assets, including Fandango, GulfNow

4921
02:44:00,320 --> 02:44:01,260
and Sports Engine.

4922
02:44:01,680 --> 02:44:04,300
CNBC media and sports reporter, Alex Sherman is

4923
02:44:04,300 --> 02:44:04,820
here with me.

4924
02:44:04,820 --> 02:44:06,820
Alex, you have more details on this new

4925
02:44:06,820 --> 02:44:07,060
name.

4926
02:44:07,120 --> 02:44:07,600
Very excited.

4927
02:44:07,820 --> 02:44:09,680
This is corporate history that we are living

4928
02:44:09,680 --> 02:44:10,320
right now, Kelly.

4929
02:44:10,340 --> 02:44:11,560
Corporate history, woo!

4930
02:44:12,080 --> 02:44:14,080
Yeah, Versant, like Conversant.

4931
02:44:14,200 --> 02:44:15,180
Imagine this gig.

4932
02:44:15,460 --> 02:44:17,240
All right, you are the one that's going

4933
02:44:17,240 --> 02:44:18,080
to announce the name.

4934
02:44:18,180 --> 02:44:19,680
Oh, please don't make me do it.

4935
02:44:19,720 --> 02:44:20,180
Don't make me.

4936
02:44:20,340 --> 02:44:22,380
Do I have to announce this stupid name?

4937
02:44:22,480 --> 02:44:23,100
Oh, okay.

4938
02:44:23,560 --> 02:44:26,580
The name was chosen, I'm told, to speak

4939
02:44:26,580 --> 02:44:29,200
to the versatility of the brands in the

4940
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:29,460
company.

4941
02:44:29,540 --> 02:44:30,280
You just listed them.

4942
02:44:30,320 --> 02:44:32,600
A lot of different brands covering different things.

4943
02:44:32,800 --> 02:44:33,780
They're not versatile.

4944
02:44:33,780 --> 02:44:34,940
They're all stupid.

4945
02:44:35,080 --> 02:44:38,200
New sports, digital assets, Rotten Tomatoes and Fandango

4946
02:44:38,200 --> 02:44:39,160
are part of this company.

4947
02:44:40,280 --> 02:44:42,020
Did you know that Rotten Tomatoes and Fandango?

4948
02:44:42,040 --> 02:44:43,620
No, I did not know where Rotten Tomatoes

4949
02:44:43,620 --> 02:44:44,380
was part of the deal.

4950
02:44:44,540 --> 02:44:46,180
Oh, that actually makes the deal a little

4951
02:44:46,180 --> 02:44:46,920
bit more attractive.

4952
02:44:47,020 --> 02:44:48,240
They're going to spin it out public though.

4953
02:44:49,040 --> 02:44:51,540
I'm told that originally through the process of

4954
02:44:51,540 --> 02:44:54,500
this, choosing the name, I spoke with the

4955
02:44:54,500 --> 02:44:56,080
CEO of the company, Mark Lazarus.

4956
02:44:56,400 --> 02:44:58,540
A thousand names, even more than a thousand

4957
02:44:58,540 --> 02:45:00,940
names were thought of, were vetted.

4958
02:45:01,440 --> 02:45:03,460
The legal process ticked that list.

4959
02:45:04,380 --> 02:45:07,020
We literally come up with domain names on

4960
02:45:07,020 --> 02:45:09,100
the fly here and have hundreds of them.

4961
02:45:09,640 --> 02:45:12,280
We had a thousand names, legal process.

4962
02:45:12,540 --> 02:45:13,620
We had to get everybody involved.

4963
02:45:13,760 --> 02:45:14,560
We had an offsite.

4964
02:45:14,700 --> 02:45:15,580
We had a whiteboard.

4965
02:45:15,740 --> 02:45:17,780
We had all kinds of, and we boiled

4966
02:45:17,780 --> 02:45:19,420
it down to a hundred.

4967
02:45:19,880 --> 02:45:21,600
I have to interrupt.

4968
02:45:24,860 --> 02:45:27,200
Rotten Tomatoes does fit into this scheme because

4969
02:45:27,200 --> 02:45:28,300
they've been leaning.

4970
02:45:29,480 --> 02:45:31,800
MSNBC, all these guys, they're all leaning, right?

4971
02:45:31,800 --> 02:45:34,200
What's the definition of versant?

4972
02:45:34,480 --> 02:45:35,140
I looked it up.

4973
02:45:35,220 --> 02:45:39,640
A region of land sloping in one direction.

4974
02:45:40,160 --> 02:45:40,520
Wow.

4975
02:45:41,740 --> 02:45:42,300
Wow.

4976
02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:44,580
So they got the right name.

4977
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:45,820
They got the right name.

4978
02:45:45,940 --> 02:45:47,360
Were thought of, were vetted.

4979
02:45:47,840 --> 02:45:50,540
The legal process ticked that list down from

4980
02:45:50,540 --> 02:45:51,720
a thousand to 43.

4981
02:45:51,920 --> 02:45:54,340
That's how difficult it is to actually find

4982
02:45:54,340 --> 02:45:55,020
a name.

4983
02:45:55,740 --> 02:45:56,660
It's not already taken.

4984
02:45:57,220 --> 02:45:59,640
There's trademark things that people have to go

4985
02:45:59,640 --> 02:46:01,620
through, both nationally and globally.

4986
02:46:01,800 --> 02:46:04,480
That list was then culled down to about

4987
02:46:04,480 --> 02:46:05,020
12.

4988
02:46:05,260 --> 02:46:07,480
There were presentations made on the 12 and

4989
02:46:07,480 --> 02:46:08,060
eventually...

4990
02:46:08,060 --> 02:46:10,600
At the offsite, presentations made at the offsite.

4991
02:46:11,000 --> 02:46:12,220
Versant was chosen.

4992
02:46:12,660 --> 02:46:16,960
Also, the word versant itself is an actual

4993
02:46:16,960 --> 02:46:17,440
word.

4994
02:46:17,540 --> 02:46:18,720
It was something that I learned through the

4995
02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:19,360
process of this.

4996
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:21,980
Which we won't explain because it doesn't sound

4997
02:46:21,980 --> 02:46:22,280
good.

4998
02:46:22,360 --> 02:46:24,100
It means the slope of land.

4999
02:46:24,660 --> 02:46:27,000
Mark Lazarus joked with me that perhaps he

5000
02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:30,620
could see that as a sloping upward, like

5001
02:46:30,620 --> 02:46:32,360
a line that was moving up for a

5002
02:46:32,360 --> 02:46:33,000
stock symbol.

5003
02:46:33,280 --> 02:46:35,300
Oh, what a way to...

5004
02:46:35,300 --> 02:46:36,240
What a wow!

5005
02:46:36,600 --> 02:46:38,460
That is some fake news right there.

5006
02:46:38,600 --> 02:46:40,860
It slopes down towards one side.

5007
02:46:40,920 --> 02:46:43,360
But he says, oh no, it slopes up.

5008
02:46:43,780 --> 02:46:46,080
It's like glass half full, glass half empty.

5009
02:46:46,200 --> 02:46:48,000
Well, it does say slope in one direction,

5010
02:46:48,120 --> 02:46:50,000
but not up or down.

5011
02:46:50,160 --> 02:46:51,640
Well, you don't want it to slope.

5012
02:46:51,780 --> 02:46:53,500
Why don't you call the company hockey stick?

5013
02:46:53,660 --> 02:46:54,800
If you're talking about...

5014
02:46:54,800 --> 02:46:55,600
There you go.

5015
02:46:55,780 --> 02:46:56,240
Hockey stick.

5016
02:46:57,080 --> 02:46:58,840
It means the slope of land.

5017
02:46:59,380 --> 02:47:01,720
Mark Lazarus joked with me that perhaps he

5018
02:47:01,720 --> 02:47:05,640
could see that as a sloping upward, like

5019
02:47:05,640 --> 02:47:07,100
a line that was moving up for a

5020
02:47:07,100 --> 02:47:07,720
stock symbol.

5021
02:47:08,300 --> 02:47:12,200
So perhaps the pathway has been set for

5022
02:47:12,200 --> 02:47:14,820
this company of assets once it trades publicly,

5023
02:47:14,980 --> 02:47:17,680
which will be later this year to be

5024
02:47:17,680 --> 02:47:18,100
a riser.

5025
02:47:18,220 --> 02:47:19,720
Is there any more clarity on when that

5026
02:47:19,720 --> 02:47:21,180
date might be sometime in the next few

5027
02:47:21,180 --> 02:47:21,380
months?

5028
02:47:21,400 --> 02:47:22,740
We don't know exactly still.

5029
02:47:22,820 --> 02:47:23,720
I just know it's toward the end of

5030
02:47:23,720 --> 02:47:25,000
the year, which has always been on the

5031
02:47:25,000 --> 02:47:25,200
plan.

5032
02:47:25,420 --> 02:47:27,520
I can say that none of the market

5033
02:47:28,540 --> 02:47:30,200
volatility of the past month or so has

5034
02:47:30,200 --> 02:47:33,040
moved Comcast off the date of spinning off

5035
02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:33,940
the assets later this year.

5036
02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:34,640
Versant.

5037
02:47:35,120 --> 02:47:36,140
Alex, get used to it.

5038
02:47:36,260 --> 02:47:36,820
Yes, indeed.

5039
02:47:37,060 --> 02:47:37,960
Try it on for size.

5040
02:47:38,840 --> 02:47:39,200
Okay.

5041
02:47:39,500 --> 02:47:40,540
Try it on for size.

5042
02:47:40,680 --> 02:47:41,660
Get used to it, everybody.

5043
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:43,380
That's what your stock options are going to

5044
02:47:43,380 --> 02:47:43,540
say.

5045
02:47:44,740 --> 02:47:45,100
Versant.

5046
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:50,540
You know, constitutional lawyer Rob, well, we actually

5047
02:47:50,540 --> 02:47:51,340
talked yesterday.

5048
02:47:51,740 --> 02:47:52,660
Let me go up to his house.

5049
02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:54,540
He lives in Canyon Lake.

5050
02:47:54,660 --> 02:47:55,820
Supposed to be really nice up there.

5051
02:47:56,560 --> 02:47:58,500
He, as I chatted with him yesterday, and

5052
02:47:58,500 --> 02:48:01,000
he says the craziest thing he's seen of

5053
02:48:01,000 --> 02:48:04,800
all the Trump stuff is the trans-military

5054
02:48:04,800 --> 02:48:05,260
ban.

5055
02:48:05,860 --> 02:48:08,680
This is going through like five different courts.

5056
02:48:09,340 --> 02:48:11,200
Everyone's pile jumping on this thing.

5057
02:48:11,260 --> 02:48:14,760
I even put his analysis in the show

5058
02:48:14,760 --> 02:48:16,120
notes so you can read it.

5059
02:48:17,020 --> 02:48:18,600
But I mean, it's because, you know, it

5060
02:48:18,600 --> 02:48:20,940
goes back to the, what Biden administration had,

5061
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:23,760
then the Trump administration, what the district courts,

5062
02:48:23,840 --> 02:48:25,900
then it's the Supreme Court, then the Ninth

5063
02:48:25,900 --> 02:48:28,520
Circuit, and the Ninth Circuit bounces back and

5064
02:48:28,520 --> 02:48:28,800
forth.

5065
02:48:29,260 --> 02:48:33,120
I mean, this is really a very interesting

5066
02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:36,780
hill for people to maybe want to die

5067
02:48:36,780 --> 02:48:38,480
on or just like, this is the most

5068
02:48:38,480 --> 02:48:39,860
important thing in their life.

5069
02:48:40,720 --> 02:48:42,140
And, you know, I think it's another trap.

5070
02:48:42,860 --> 02:48:43,560
Well, let's listen.

5071
02:48:43,720 --> 02:48:45,240
The U.S. Supreme Court has allowed the

5072
02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:48,000
Trump administration to begin executing its ban on

5073
02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:50,080
transgender military service members.

5074
02:48:50,200 --> 02:48:51,400
Very nice term.

5075
02:48:51,500 --> 02:48:54,160
I love that they used executing this ban.

5076
02:48:55,300 --> 02:48:56,500
You know, this is NPR.

5077
02:48:56,820 --> 02:48:59,480
They don't just choose these words willy-nilly.

5078
02:48:59,840 --> 02:49:02,640
Trump administration to begin executing its ban on

5079
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:05,520
transgender military service members, at least for now,

5080
02:49:05,980 --> 02:49:07,600
joining us to talk about this is NPR

5081
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:09,940
legal affairs correspondent, Nina Totenberg.

5082
02:49:10,060 --> 02:49:11,620
Now, Nina, President Trump has been trying to

5083
02:49:11,620 --> 02:49:12,780
ban transgender troops.

5084
02:49:12,900 --> 02:49:13,580
You don't like Nina?

5085
02:49:14,780 --> 02:49:16,000
Oh, she's the worst.

5086
02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:17,080
She's an old hack.

5087
02:49:17,340 --> 02:49:20,000
She's been around for 100 years and she

5088
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:24,400
comes on, she's really never brings in any

5089
02:49:24,400 --> 02:49:25,420
real insight.

5090
02:49:26,420 --> 02:49:28,000
She's notorious for something.

5091
02:49:28,100 --> 02:49:30,000
I forgot what started her career to be

5092
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:30,760
a hotshot.

5093
02:49:30,960 --> 02:49:32,420
She probably makes about a half a million

5094
02:49:32,420 --> 02:49:32,760
dollars.

5095
02:49:32,940 --> 02:49:35,740
Of course, the military since his first administration.

5096
02:49:36,040 --> 02:49:38,260
What's the difference between then and now?

5097
02:49:38,600 --> 02:49:41,900
In the first Trump term, he partially succeeded,

5098
02:49:42,100 --> 02:49:44,720
but the ban was reversed by President Biden,

5099
02:49:44,960 --> 02:49:47,080
only to be put back in place by

5100
02:49:47,080 --> 02:49:49,120
Trump after he took office for a second

5101
02:49:49,120 --> 02:49:49,520
term.

5102
02:49:49,520 --> 02:49:52,340
This new order mimics the Trump order from

5103
02:49:52,340 --> 02:49:55,520
the first administration and appears to strengthen it

5104
02:49:55,520 --> 02:49:59,880
as well, barring transgender individuals from enlisting and

5105
02:49:59,880 --> 02:50:03,340
discharging active duty transgender service members.

5106
02:50:03,560 --> 02:50:04,660
All right, so what did the Supreme Court

5107
02:50:04,660 --> 02:50:05,360
do yesterday?

5108
02:50:05,740 --> 02:50:08,720
In a one paragraph unsigned order, the justices

5109
02:50:08,720 --> 02:50:12,320
revived the transgender ban, which had been temporarily

5110
02:50:12,320 --> 02:50:14,140
blocked by the lower courts.

5111
02:50:14,420 --> 02:50:18,000
The court's three liberal justices, Kagan, Sotomayor, and

5112
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:20,780
Jackson noted their dissents and would have barred

5113
02:50:20,780 --> 02:50:23,000
the administration from putting the ban in place

5114
02:50:23,000 --> 02:50:25,640
while the case continues to be litigated in

5115
02:50:25,640 --> 02:50:26,440
the lower courts.

5116
02:50:26,760 --> 02:50:28,660
So the case now goes back to the

5117
02:50:28,660 --> 02:50:30,940
Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals for the Trump

5118
02:50:30,940 --> 02:50:32,300
policy to be reviewed.

5119
02:50:33,880 --> 02:50:37,540
So we're bouncing back and forth and let's

5120
02:50:37,540 --> 02:50:40,220
learn about the new policy, what it exactly

5121
02:50:40,220 --> 02:50:40,640
is.

5122
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:42,260
There's been a lot of back and forth

5123
02:50:42,260 --> 02:50:43,500
in this case since 2016.

5124
02:50:43,680 --> 02:50:46,300
That's when the Obama administration first allowed openly

5125
02:50:46,300 --> 02:50:47,980
trans individuals to serve in the military.

5126
02:50:47,980 --> 02:50:50,500
So how is the new policy different?

5127
02:50:51,380 --> 02:50:53,740
The Obama policy was reversed by Trump in

5128
02:50:53,740 --> 02:50:57,560
2017, followed by new rules issued by then

5129
02:50:57,560 --> 02:50:59,780
Defense Secretary James Mattis.

5130
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:02,900
The Mattis rules allowed exceptions to the ban

5131
02:51:02,900 --> 02:51:06,740
for active service members previously diagnosed with gender

5132
02:51:06,740 --> 02:51:07,320
dysphoria.

5133
02:51:07,760 --> 02:51:10,860
But the new policy, the Trump II policy,

5134
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:13,780
is significantly tougher because it bars from the

5135
02:51:13,780 --> 02:51:17,300
military anyone with a gender dysphoria diagnosis.

5136
02:51:17,860 --> 02:51:20,600
And while that isn't everyone, it is most

5137
02:51:20,600 --> 02:51:21,660
trans individuals.

5138
02:51:22,400 --> 02:51:23,700
Now, where are things now?

5139
02:51:24,180 --> 02:51:24,760
The Ninth Circuit...

5140
02:51:24,760 --> 02:51:26,620
That's an important little data point.

5141
02:51:28,060 --> 02:51:28,640
That is...

5142
02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:31,020
Well, the question that always remains to me...

5143
02:51:31,020 --> 02:51:31,680
I'm not done yet.

5144
02:51:31,940 --> 02:51:32,080
Yeah.

5145
02:51:32,960 --> 02:51:36,860
Why do you want in the military, which

5146
02:51:36,860 --> 02:51:41,720
is a discipline-oriented pursuit...

5147
02:51:41,720 --> 02:51:42,240
Vocation.

5148
02:51:43,240 --> 02:51:46,180
Why would you want people with gender dysphoria

5149
02:51:46,180 --> 02:51:47,540
that you have to treat?

5150
02:51:47,740 --> 02:51:48,740
Or any dysphoria.

5151
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:50,680
Or any dysphoria issue.

5152
02:51:50,680 --> 02:51:51,140
Or any kind of...

5153
02:51:51,140 --> 02:51:53,620
Your neurosis is psychotic.

5154
02:51:53,760 --> 02:51:54,700
I mean, what...

5155
02:51:54,700 --> 02:51:56,700
Schizophrenics, we don't want them either.

5156
02:51:57,060 --> 02:52:00,360
Bipolar, borderline personality.

5157
02:52:00,580 --> 02:52:01,880
I mean, there's all kinds of things you

5158
02:52:01,880 --> 02:52:02,500
don't want.

5159
02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:05,560
Anything with dysphoria is probably, you're right, probably

5160
02:52:05,560 --> 02:52:06,540
not what you want.

5161
02:52:06,800 --> 02:52:08,000
You want killing machines!

5162
02:52:08,420 --> 02:52:11,240
And while that isn't everyone, it is most

5163
02:52:11,240 --> 02:52:12,280
trans individuals.

5164
02:52:12,860 --> 02:52:14,300
Now, where are things now?

5165
02:52:14,540 --> 02:52:16,640
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals will take

5166
02:52:16,640 --> 02:52:18,140
a whack at deciding the issue.

5167
02:52:18,680 --> 02:52:20,680
And that decision can be appealed to the

5168
02:52:20,680 --> 02:52:22,880
Supreme Court, though the ban is likely to

5169
02:52:22,880 --> 02:52:25,160
remain in place during the appellate process.

5170
02:52:25,440 --> 02:52:26,100
All right, so let me cut to the

5171
02:52:26,100 --> 02:52:26,540
chase here.

5172
02:52:26,780 --> 02:52:28,620
What are the chances that the Supreme Court

5173
02:52:28,620 --> 02:52:31,140
will ultimately rule against the Trump trans ban

5174
02:52:31,140 --> 02:52:31,720
in the military?

5175
02:52:32,280 --> 02:52:33,960
Probably slim to none.

5176
02:52:34,280 --> 02:52:37,000
The fact is that the Supreme Court, even

5177
02:52:37,000 --> 02:52:39,200
on a temporary basis, has allowed the Trump

5178
02:52:39,200 --> 02:52:42,620
administration to proceed with carrying out the ban.

5179
02:52:42,780 --> 02:52:45,360
And that's a pretty strong indicator that the

5180
02:52:45,360 --> 02:52:47,960
administration is very likely to prevail in the

5181
02:52:47,960 --> 02:52:48,480
long run.

5182
02:52:48,800 --> 02:52:50,520
And then for me, the kicker, how many

5183
02:52:50,520 --> 02:52:52,240
people are we actually talking about here?

5184
02:52:52,380 --> 02:52:54,180
When it comes to the numbers of people,

5185
02:52:54,280 --> 02:52:56,260
how many trans individuals are in the military

5186
02:52:56,260 --> 02:52:58,220
right now under the policy that allowed them

5187
02:52:58,220 --> 02:52:59,160
to enlist and serve?

5188
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:03,000
According to the Pentagon, about 0.2%

5189
02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:06,300
of active military forces, or about 4,000

5190
02:53:06,300 --> 02:53:06,940
individuals.

5191
02:53:07,420 --> 02:53:09,080
So Nina, I'm wondering, who are the plaintiffs

5192
02:53:09,080 --> 02:53:10,200
that brought this challenge?

5193
02:53:10,700 --> 02:53:13,860
They're a group of current and aspiring transgender

5194
02:53:13,860 --> 02:53:18,100
service members, including lead plaintiff Emily Schilling, a

5195
02:53:18,100 --> 02:53:20,640
Navy pilot who's flown more than 60 combat

5196
02:53:20,640 --> 02:53:23,680
missions over her nearly two decades of military

5197
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:24,340
service.

5198
02:53:24,980 --> 02:53:27,600
Ruling in their favor, Judge Benjamin Settle in

5199
02:53:27,600 --> 02:53:29,820
Washington State, who's a George W.

5200
02:53:29,940 --> 02:53:33,620
Bush appointee, concluded that the government's classification of

5201
02:53:33,620 --> 02:53:37,720
gender dysphoria as a disqualifying medical condition was

5202
02:53:37,720 --> 02:53:41,800
essentially a ruse motivated by hostility towards transgender

5203
02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:42,360
people.

5204
02:53:42,360 --> 02:53:45,480
So I love that she adds in there

5205
02:53:45,480 --> 02:53:46,600
a George W.

5206
02:53:46,700 --> 02:53:47,420
Bush appointee.

5207
02:53:47,520 --> 02:53:49,640
We know what George liked.

5208
02:53:49,780 --> 02:53:51,220
Safe to say that the Supreme Court will

5209
02:53:51,220 --> 02:53:52,880
eventually actually rule on this?

5210
02:53:53,100 --> 02:53:54,820
Probably the case will come back to the

5211
02:53:54,820 --> 02:53:57,880
court next term for a final ruling, regardless

5212
02:53:57,880 --> 02:53:59,660
of who wins in the Ninth Circuit.

5213
02:54:00,220 --> 02:54:01,740
I think George W.

5214
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:02,960
Bush was a horndog.

5215
02:54:03,760 --> 02:54:06,440
Remember he had those guys in the press

5216
02:54:06,440 --> 02:54:06,800
pool?

5217
02:54:07,180 --> 02:54:07,640
You remember that?

5218
02:54:08,720 --> 02:54:10,160
You think of George W.

5219
02:54:10,240 --> 02:54:10,780
or George H.

5220
02:54:10,780 --> 02:54:11,700
No, George W.

5221
02:54:12,220 --> 02:54:13,540
No, George W.

5222
02:54:13,740 --> 02:54:14,800
the second one.

5223
02:54:15,160 --> 02:54:16,240
He had those Texas guy.

5224
02:54:16,380 --> 02:54:17,980
Yeah, he had those gay prostitutes.

5225
02:54:19,420 --> 02:54:20,220
Don't you remember that?

5226
02:54:20,320 --> 02:54:20,560
Oh, that.

5227
02:54:20,780 --> 02:54:22,440
Oh, I vaguely remember that.

5228
02:54:22,460 --> 02:54:22,860
That's right.

5229
02:54:22,900 --> 02:54:25,300
The guy that showed up in a somebody

5230
02:54:25,300 --> 02:54:27,480
outed him and they posted it.

5231
02:54:27,520 --> 02:54:28,880
Yeah, he was posting online.

5232
02:54:28,980 --> 02:54:30,760
He was a gay prostitute.

5233
02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:33,160
And he was in the press pool for

5234
02:54:33,160 --> 02:54:35,720
some unknown reason asking stupid questions.

5235
02:54:35,980 --> 02:54:36,100
Yeah.

5236
02:54:36,620 --> 02:54:38,120
I do remember that.

5237
02:54:38,980 --> 02:54:42,560
We have long memories, be very careful.

5238
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:43,300
That's what happens.

5239
02:54:43,680 --> 02:54:44,780
And let me see.

5240
02:54:44,860 --> 02:54:45,600
We got five minutes.

5241
02:54:45,740 --> 02:54:47,060
I want to play this.

5242
02:54:47,340 --> 02:54:47,620
Five minutes.

5243
02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:49,420
And I guess this is five minute warning

5244
02:54:49,420 --> 02:54:50,700
with two minutes to go.

5245
02:54:50,920 --> 02:54:53,500
And here's a question because this is up

5246
02:54:53,500 --> 02:54:54,220
where you live.

5247
02:54:54,380 --> 02:54:55,800
Notice I didn't say your neck of the

5248
02:54:55,800 --> 02:54:56,060
woods.

5249
02:54:56,360 --> 02:54:58,580
This morning, President Trump is directing the federal

5250
02:54:58,580 --> 02:55:02,480
government to reopen Alcatraz, the notorious former prison

5251
02:55:02,480 --> 02:55:04,720
on the San Francisco Bay known as The

5252
02:55:04,720 --> 02:55:07,780
Rock, considered escape proof and the subject of

5253
02:55:07,780 --> 02:55:09,060
multiple Hollywood films.

5254
02:55:09,540 --> 02:55:11,720
No one has ever escaped from Alcatraz.

5255
02:55:12,080 --> 02:55:14,100
Me too.

5256
02:55:15,160 --> 02:55:15,980
And no one ever will.

5257
02:55:16,280 --> 02:55:19,080
Trump says he wants to reopen and expand

5258
02:55:19,080 --> 02:55:21,860
the prison to house America's most ruthless and

5259
02:55:21,860 --> 02:55:22,900
violent offenders.

5260
02:55:23,440 --> 02:55:24,840
Just an idea I've had.

5261
02:55:24,960 --> 02:55:27,060
And I guess because the judges, so many

5262
02:55:27,060 --> 02:55:30,380
of these radicalized judges, they want to have

5263
02:55:30,380 --> 02:55:33,160
trials for every single, think of it, every

5264
02:55:33,160 --> 02:55:35,720
single person that's in our country illegally, they

5265
02:55:35,720 --> 02:55:36,560
came in illegally.

5266
02:55:37,200 --> 02:55:39,040
That would mean millions of trials.

5267
02:55:39,060 --> 02:55:41,500
It comes after a new interview, which the

5268
02:55:41,500 --> 02:55:43,580
president said he does not know whether every

5269
02:55:43,580 --> 02:55:45,700
person in the U.S. is entitled to

5270
02:55:45,700 --> 02:55:48,980
due process as his administration pushes to deport

5271
02:55:48,980 --> 02:55:50,700
immigrants in the country illegally.

5272
02:55:51,140 --> 02:55:52,500
Now, again, a complaint.

5273
02:55:53,400 --> 02:55:57,100
We have a person, a ranger, I believe,

5274
02:55:57,320 --> 02:56:00,000
ranger, I can't remember his name, who works

5275
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:00,700
at Alcatraz.

5276
02:56:01,440 --> 02:56:02,700
I don't know if he's still there.

5277
02:56:02,740 --> 02:56:03,820
I think he may have been moved.

5278
02:56:04,280 --> 02:56:05,940
Well, but he still has info.

5279
02:56:06,540 --> 02:56:08,120
And if he took me, he took me

5280
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:08,960
to the tour.

5281
02:56:09,460 --> 02:56:10,900
I took Jay and a friend.

5282
02:56:11,180 --> 02:56:12,640
Oh, you actually took him up on that.

5283
02:56:12,700 --> 02:56:13,400
You went on the tour.

5284
02:56:13,580 --> 02:56:15,640
Oh, yeah, it was great because he had

5285
02:56:15,640 --> 02:56:17,700
his own little cart and we went into

5286
02:56:17,700 --> 02:56:21,120
parts of the facility that no one gets

5287
02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:21,700
to see.

5288
02:56:22,320 --> 02:56:22,720
Wow.

5289
02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:25,480
So, I mean, there was an underground, there

5290
02:56:25,480 --> 02:56:27,760
was a hospital, like an abandoned hospital.

5291
02:56:28,040 --> 02:56:28,760
And we just took a tour.

5292
02:56:28,920 --> 02:56:29,900
It was really creepy, by the way.

5293
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:30,460
Ranger Craig.

5294
02:56:30,740 --> 02:56:31,460
Ranger Craig.

5295
02:56:31,600 --> 02:56:32,060
Yeah, ranger.

5296
02:56:32,220 --> 02:56:32,760
It was a ranger.

5297
02:56:33,080 --> 02:56:34,120
A ranger, Craig Wright.

5298
02:56:34,240 --> 02:56:35,680
Ranger Craig Wright, I think, yes.

5299
02:56:35,680 --> 02:56:37,300
He took us all over that.

5300
02:56:37,380 --> 02:56:39,020
We're all in a kind of a separate

5301
02:56:39,020 --> 02:56:39,240
tour.

5302
02:56:39,340 --> 02:56:42,660
I got to close the cell doors with

5303
02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:44,100
a grab the handle and pull it.

5304
02:56:44,120 --> 02:56:45,580
From the inside or the outside?

5305
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:47,280
From the outside, obviously.

5306
02:56:47,440 --> 02:56:48,320
You can't close it from the inside.

5307
02:56:48,960 --> 02:56:50,560
And it makes a large clink.

5308
02:56:50,640 --> 02:56:52,280
You get a feeling for the amount of

5309
02:56:52,280 --> 02:56:53,360
stress it takes to pull it.

5310
02:56:53,500 --> 02:56:55,220
To give you an idea, we talked about

5311
02:56:55,220 --> 02:56:58,580
Ranger Craig on episode 115.

5312
02:57:00,100 --> 02:57:00,900
That's 2009.

5313
02:57:00,960 --> 02:57:02,100
I don't think he's there anymore.

5314
02:57:02,200 --> 02:57:02,880
I think he moved.

5315
02:57:02,980 --> 02:57:03,960
I don't know if he's alive.

5316
02:57:04,480 --> 02:57:07,420
Well, he wasn't an old guy.

5317
02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:08,200
He was a young guy.

5318
02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:09,120
Yeah.

5319
02:57:09,560 --> 02:57:11,480
But now we got a great tour.

5320
02:57:11,620 --> 02:57:13,380
What are people saying about this in San

5321
02:57:13,380 --> 02:57:13,820
Francisco?

5322
02:57:14,460 --> 02:57:16,120
We think it's bullcrap.

5323
02:57:16,520 --> 02:57:16,820
Really?

5324
02:57:17,500 --> 02:57:18,460
Everybody does.

5325
02:57:18,620 --> 02:57:20,360
Seems like a great place to put criminals.

5326
02:57:20,760 --> 02:57:21,040
Yes.

5327
02:57:21,140 --> 02:57:22,060
No, it's impossible.

5328
02:57:22,200 --> 02:57:23,180
That place is a wreck.

5329
02:57:23,480 --> 02:57:24,380
It's a mess.

5330
02:57:24,620 --> 02:57:26,400
Except for the areas that the public gets

5331
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:26,820
to see.

5332
02:57:26,900 --> 02:57:28,640
If you actually got behind the scenes and

5333
02:57:28,640 --> 02:57:29,980
see the other stuff going on.

5334
02:57:30,580 --> 02:57:33,300
Now, again, the perfect place to put criminals.

5335
02:57:34,080 --> 02:57:36,260
Well, maybe, but yeah.

5336
02:57:37,520 --> 02:57:39,080
No, they're not going to do anything.

5337
02:57:39,260 --> 02:57:40,140
It's a tourist trap.

5338
02:57:40,240 --> 02:57:41,800
It's bringing in $60 million a year.

5339
02:57:41,920 --> 02:57:42,840
Ah, there it is.

5340
02:57:43,000 --> 02:57:43,500
There it is.

5341
02:57:43,640 --> 02:57:44,480
We don't want to lose that money.

5342
02:57:44,500 --> 02:57:45,320
It's bringing in that much.

5343
02:57:45,420 --> 02:57:47,060
Probably the maintenance is going to be less

5344
02:57:47,060 --> 02:57:47,480
than that.

5345
02:57:47,660 --> 02:57:48,640
It's making money.

5346
02:57:48,800 --> 02:57:49,840
It's dumb to turn.

5347
02:57:50,320 --> 02:57:52,200
You can find someplace in the middle of

5348
02:57:52,200 --> 02:57:54,060
nowhere and build a prison from scratch.

5349
02:57:54,120 --> 02:57:54,700
It'd be cheaper.

5350
02:58:08,480 --> 02:58:10,500
As we wind down our broadcast day, we

5351
02:58:10,500 --> 02:58:13,400
still have plenty of deconstruction broadcasts left for

5352
02:58:13,400 --> 02:58:14,880
you, including John's tip of the day.

5353
02:58:14,960 --> 02:58:15,660
You don't want to miss that.

5354
02:58:15,740 --> 02:58:17,980
Some very down-low beats in the end

5355
02:58:17,980 --> 02:58:18,880
of show mix.

5356
02:58:19,000 --> 02:58:21,740
We have, of course, our meetup overview with

5357
02:58:21,740 --> 02:58:23,740
a report from the Netherlands where they got

5358
02:58:23,740 --> 02:58:24,760
the servers involved.

5359
02:58:24,900 --> 02:58:26,100
They finally listened to me.

5360
02:58:26,280 --> 02:58:27,560
But first, we're going to thank all of

5361
02:58:27,560 --> 02:58:29,280
our supporters, $50 and above.

5362
02:58:29,420 --> 02:58:30,880
John's going to take you through the list.

5363
02:58:31,400 --> 02:58:32,120
That's correct.

5364
02:58:32,300 --> 02:58:35,900
I'm starting with James O'Brien in Southington,

5365
02:58:36,280 --> 02:58:36,700
Connecticut.

5366
02:58:36,900 --> 02:58:38,120
One, two, three, four, five.

5367
02:58:40,680 --> 02:58:42,300
Kindly enlighten me as to the title.

5368
02:58:42,480 --> 02:58:43,760
Much appreciate you and your efforts.

5369
02:58:43,960 --> 02:58:44,300
I don't know.

5370
02:58:44,400 --> 02:58:45,600
I don't know what he wants from us.

5371
02:58:45,720 --> 02:58:46,640
What is he talking about?

5372
02:58:46,940 --> 02:58:47,360
I don't know.

5373
02:58:47,420 --> 02:58:47,960
I have no idea.

5374
02:58:48,320 --> 02:58:49,480
Maybe he's a knight.

5375
02:58:49,600 --> 02:58:50,300
He should be a knight.

5376
02:58:50,380 --> 02:58:51,060
He wants to be a knight.

5377
02:58:51,160 --> 02:58:52,240
He's already a knight, he says.

5378
02:58:52,900 --> 02:58:53,380
I have no idea.

5379
02:58:53,420 --> 02:58:55,420
Well, you got to give us more info,

5380
02:58:55,660 --> 02:58:55,840
bro.

5381
02:58:56,100 --> 02:58:56,320
Yeah.

5382
02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:56,800
Yeah.

5383
02:58:56,860 --> 02:58:57,740
It's the honor system.

5384
02:58:58,120 --> 02:58:58,700
So you need to...

5385
02:58:58,700 --> 02:58:58,820
Yeah.

5386
02:58:58,980 --> 02:59:00,380
Daniel Kepler's up next.

5387
02:59:00,400 --> 02:59:01,420
He's in Phoenix, Arizona.

5388
02:59:01,760 --> 02:59:03,160
Also one, two, three, four, five.

5389
02:59:03,160 --> 02:59:04,140
My favorite donation.

5390
02:59:04,660 --> 02:59:08,420
Mark Thanish in Elgin, Nebraska.

5391
02:59:08,760 --> 02:59:09,880
Or Elgin, possibly.

5392
02:59:10,020 --> 02:59:10,420
120.

5393
02:59:11,620 --> 02:59:13,740
Arno in Amstelveen.

5394
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:14,800
Oh, Amstelveen.

5395
02:59:14,880 --> 02:59:15,660
I used to live in Amstelveen.

5396
02:59:15,660 --> 02:59:16,000
Holland.

5397
02:59:16,300 --> 02:59:17,040
Yes, used to live there.

5398
02:59:17,060 --> 02:59:18,280
104-64.

5399
02:59:20,060 --> 02:59:21,580
He wants us to switch over.

5400
02:59:21,720 --> 02:59:24,420
This is a switcheroo to Freya, who also

5401
02:59:24,420 --> 02:59:25,660
organized the meetup.

5402
02:59:26,060 --> 02:59:26,860
Ah, yes.

5403
02:59:27,020 --> 02:59:28,840
Ah, it's the last meetup last Saturday in...

5404
02:59:30,460 --> 02:59:31,600
Well, you know, okay.

5405
02:59:31,600 --> 02:59:33,580
So it's pronounced Scheveningen.

5406
02:59:34,660 --> 02:59:39,560
And during World War II, the Dutch would

5407
02:59:39,560 --> 02:59:44,100
ask you to pronounce the name Scheveningen because...

5408
02:59:44,100 --> 02:59:45,480
Oh, and they'd shoot you if you couldn't

5409
02:59:45,480 --> 02:59:46,140
pronounce it right.

5410
02:59:46,280 --> 02:59:46,760
Correct.

5411
02:59:46,980 --> 02:59:48,760
Because then you were probably a spy, a

5412
02:59:48,760 --> 02:59:49,400
German spy.

5413
02:59:49,820 --> 02:59:51,740
Scheveningen is the correct pronunciation.

5414
02:59:52,220 --> 02:59:54,060
Well, I've been to get shot, but I'm

5415
02:59:54,060 --> 02:59:54,880
not a German spy.

5416
02:59:54,880 --> 02:59:56,740
So I think they probably killed some poor

5417
02:59:56,740 --> 02:59:57,440
innocent Americans.

5418
02:59:57,780 --> 02:59:58,340
You'd be dead.

5419
02:59:58,460 --> 02:59:59,620
You'd be dead by now.

5420
02:59:59,620 --> 03:00:04,460
Stefan Trockels, who's in Sust, Deutschland, $100.

5421
03:00:04,860 --> 03:00:05,680
No note, he says.

5422
03:00:06,980 --> 03:00:09,920
Ken Weinstock in Tucker, Georgia, 888.

5423
03:00:10,700 --> 03:00:11,660
8088, sorry.

5424
03:00:12,180 --> 03:00:14,080
Because Kevin McLaughlin's up next.

5425
03:00:14,220 --> 03:00:16,760
He's in Concord, North Carolina, 8008.

5426
03:00:16,780 --> 03:00:18,700
He's the Archduke of London lover, American lover

5427
03:00:18,700 --> 03:00:19,120
of boobs.

5428
03:00:19,280 --> 03:00:19,700
He is.

5429
03:00:20,160 --> 03:00:22,200
Stephen Hutto.

5430
03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:24,700
You okay?

5431
03:00:24,840 --> 03:00:27,740
Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75.

5432
03:00:27,740 --> 03:00:31,940
Commodore G in Cincinnati, Ohio, 7377.

5433
03:00:33,040 --> 03:00:37,800
Alan Huffman in Urbandale, Iowa, 6809.

5434
03:00:38,940 --> 03:00:42,000
He says 6809 was probably the most advanced

5435
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:42,940
8-bit CPU.

5436
03:00:43,540 --> 03:00:45,020
It had 16-bit registers.

5437
03:00:45,240 --> 03:00:47,180
I think the 8088 did too, didn't it?

5438
03:00:47,320 --> 03:00:47,960
I don't know.

5439
03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:49,100
I'm pretty sure.

5440
03:00:49,100 --> 03:00:49,660
I don't care.

5441
03:00:51,020 --> 03:00:52,640
David Cox in Austin, Texas.

5442
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:53,180
You don't care.

5443
03:00:53,180 --> 03:00:57,880
David Cox in Austin, Texas, 6325.

5444
03:01:00,460 --> 03:01:05,740
Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo, 6161.

5445
03:01:05,840 --> 03:01:07,680
This is an Aunt Gigi donation.

5446
03:01:07,700 --> 03:01:08,200
Here we go.

5447
03:01:08,400 --> 03:01:08,840
Here we go.

5448
03:01:08,960 --> 03:01:09,500
Stand by.

5449
03:01:13,230 --> 03:01:14,390
That's Aunt Gigi.

5450
03:01:14,590 --> 03:01:15,250
That's Aunt Gigi.

5451
03:01:15,530 --> 03:01:19,250
Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado, 6006.

5452
03:01:19,290 --> 03:01:21,330
Go to Grayson Insurance for all your insurance

5453
03:01:21,330 --> 03:01:21,650
needs.

5454
03:01:22,690 --> 03:01:23,690
I just threw that in.

5455
03:01:23,690 --> 03:01:29,650
Bruce Bagnocchi, Brig Bagnocchi, Bagnocchi, Bagnocchi, Bagnocchi, Bagnocchi,

5456
03:01:29,650 --> 03:01:30,110
Bagnocchi.

5457
03:01:30,170 --> 03:01:34,390
In Midlothian, Virginia, 5945.

5458
03:01:37,050 --> 03:01:41,970
Yaron Snelders in Ennis, Texas, 5945.

5459
03:01:42,290 --> 03:01:47,410
These are all the VE Day donations.

5460
03:01:47,790 --> 03:01:47,890
Yes.

5461
03:01:48,130 --> 03:01:48,770
So I got a few.

5462
03:01:49,110 --> 03:01:52,630
Also Bowman McMahon in San Antonio, 5945.

5463
03:01:53,350 --> 03:01:57,430
John Fitzpatrick in Heber Springs, Arkansas, 5945.

5464
03:01:57,930 --> 03:01:58,670
Dame Rita.

5465
03:01:59,150 --> 03:02:03,230
Ah, there she is in Sparks, Nevada, 5945.

5466
03:02:04,090 --> 03:02:05,110
She's the best.

5467
03:02:06,130 --> 03:02:09,650
Tyler Darrington in Lost Wages, Nevada, 5945.

5468
03:02:09,650 --> 03:02:11,470
And that's our little group of well-wishers

5469
03:02:11,470 --> 03:02:12,470
for VE Day.

5470
03:02:13,070 --> 03:02:13,390
Yes.

5471
03:02:14,510 --> 03:02:17,570
Forgotten that we beat the Germans.

5472
03:02:17,690 --> 03:02:18,190
We beat them.

5473
03:02:18,190 --> 03:02:23,130
Sir Dancing Mike in Maryville, Tennessee, 5757.

5474
03:02:23,630 --> 03:02:24,330
It's a birthday.

5475
03:02:25,510 --> 03:02:29,470
Pete Federici in Bothell, Washington, 5555.

5476
03:02:29,810 --> 03:02:31,890
He wants some Jobs Karma for his partner.

5477
03:02:32,250 --> 03:02:33,570
Can you put that at the end for

5478
03:02:33,570 --> 03:02:33,750
him?

5479
03:02:33,830 --> 03:02:34,310
I can.

5480
03:02:35,310 --> 03:02:39,250
Chris Hare in Bel Air, Maryland, 5537.

5481
03:02:39,470 --> 03:02:40,190
He's a de-douche.

5482
03:02:41,850 --> 03:02:43,690
You've been de-douched.

5483
03:02:44,290 --> 03:02:45,850
We'll be giving a happy birthday shout out

5484
03:02:45,850 --> 03:02:48,330
to Megan, who's turning 31.

5485
03:02:48,950 --> 03:02:50,710
Michael Gates, 5280.

5486
03:02:52,870 --> 03:02:55,930
Roger Kesey in Holland, Michigan, 5272.

5487
03:02:56,070 --> 03:02:59,050
Robert McGee in Davenport, Iowa, 5272.

5488
03:02:59,230 --> 03:03:03,730
Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado, 5272.

5489
03:03:03,810 --> 03:03:06,290
And Spencer Nace somehow got a deal at

5490
03:03:06,290 --> 03:03:07,770
5271.

5491
03:03:07,890 --> 03:03:09,590
He's in Weaverville, North Carolina.

5492
03:03:09,730 --> 03:03:10,270
Saved a penny.

5493
03:03:13,370 --> 03:03:14,850
He's got some comment there.

5494
03:03:14,910 --> 03:03:15,770
You might want to look at it.

5495
03:03:15,770 --> 03:03:17,310
Josiah Thomas.

5496
03:03:17,690 --> 03:03:18,210
Oh, I'm sorry.

5497
03:03:18,310 --> 03:03:20,750
Eric Hochul in Mulrose, Deutschland.

5498
03:03:21,070 --> 03:03:21,950
There he is, $52.

5499
03:03:22,450 --> 03:03:22,850
He is here.

5500
03:03:22,990 --> 03:03:25,310
He's been a regular for a decade at

5501
03:03:25,310 --> 03:03:25,550
least.

5502
03:03:26,490 --> 03:03:28,050
And he should get knighted or something.

5503
03:03:28,270 --> 03:03:30,610
He's got plenty of credits.

5504
03:03:31,770 --> 03:03:34,850
Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, 51.

5505
03:03:35,050 --> 03:03:37,310
And now we got finally the $50 donors.

5506
03:03:37,710 --> 03:03:41,110
Name and location starting with Alex Zavala.

5507
03:03:41,750 --> 03:03:42,850
Ah, Sir Alex.

5508
03:03:43,630 --> 03:03:44,990
Sir Alex in Kyle, Texas.

5509
03:03:45,550 --> 03:03:47,330
Stephen Ray in Spokane.

5510
03:03:47,830 --> 03:03:50,130
Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado.

5511
03:03:50,590 --> 03:03:54,430
Jacob Jacob Rottramel in Decatur, Illinois.

5512
03:03:55,010 --> 03:03:56,130
Edward Mazurik.

5513
03:03:56,190 --> 03:03:57,710
There he is in Memphis.

5514
03:03:58,530 --> 03:04:00,850
Kerry Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee.

5515
03:04:01,510 --> 03:04:04,370
And last on the list is Jason Deluzio

5516
03:04:04,370 --> 03:04:06,910
living it up in Miami Beach, Florida.

5517
03:04:07,090 --> 03:04:08,210
I want to thank all these people for

5518
03:04:08,210 --> 03:04:10,030
helping us out on Show 1762.

5519
03:04:10,410 --> 03:04:12,250
Yes, and the Jobs Karma is here as

5520
03:04:12,250 --> 03:04:12,570
requested.

5521
03:04:12,570 --> 03:04:16,030
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

5522
03:04:16,090 --> 03:04:17,730
Let's vote for jobs.

5523
03:04:18,770 --> 03:04:19,210
Karma.

5524
03:04:20,490 --> 03:04:20,890
All right.

5525
03:04:20,950 --> 03:04:22,590
Thank you all very much for supporting us.

5526
03:04:22,670 --> 03:04:24,150
You can do that at any time you

5527
03:04:24,150 --> 03:04:26,410
want by going to noagendadonations.com.

5528
03:04:26,970 --> 03:04:27,850
noagendadonations.com.

5529
03:04:27,970 --> 03:04:30,550
Become an executive producer, associate executive producer.

5530
03:04:30,670 --> 03:04:31,610
Become a layaway night.

5531
03:04:31,710 --> 03:04:34,870
All kinds of opportunities and sustaining donors are

5532
03:04:34,870 --> 03:04:35,610
more than welcome.

5533
03:04:35,730 --> 03:04:38,930
Any amount, any frequency, any numerology.

5534
03:04:39,110 --> 03:04:40,110
We love the numbers.

5535
03:04:40,210 --> 03:04:41,230
We love the chip numbers.

5536
03:04:41,230 --> 03:04:43,110
We love the Aunt Gigi donations.

5537
03:04:43,210 --> 03:04:43,850
You make it up.

5538
03:04:43,970 --> 03:04:46,070
We'll follow along with your gambit.

5539
03:04:46,130 --> 03:04:46,870
Thank you very much.

5540
03:04:47,330 --> 03:04:48,270
noagendadonations.com.

5541
03:04:53,790 --> 03:04:55,590
Steve, downtown Brown.

5542
03:04:55,750 --> 03:04:57,350
It says happy birthday to Jason Meyer.

5543
03:04:57,530 --> 03:04:59,190
He celebrated on the 6th.

5544
03:04:59,370 --> 03:05:03,350
Sir Dancing Mike turns 57 on Saturday.

5545
03:05:03,910 --> 03:05:05,810
Chris Hur, happy birthday to Megan Haynes.

5546
03:05:05,870 --> 03:05:07,910
She turns 31 on the 12th.

5547
03:05:08,150 --> 03:05:10,310
We have Dane Susan wishing her son Elliot

5548
03:05:10,310 --> 03:05:11,050
a happy birthday.

5549
03:05:11,050 --> 03:05:13,150
Franny says happy birthday.

5550
03:05:13,790 --> 03:05:16,090
Gefeliciteer to Sylvia Corn-Jones.

5551
03:05:16,470 --> 03:05:17,090
Happy birthday.

5552
03:05:17,250 --> 03:05:18,630
And we say happy birthday to all these

5553
03:05:18,630 --> 03:05:20,210
people on behalf of all here at the

5554
03:05:20,210 --> 03:05:21,910
best podcast in the universe.

5555
03:05:23,470 --> 03:05:24,450
One Commodore.

5556
03:05:24,730 --> 03:05:26,730
The final, final, final Commodore.

5557
03:05:26,910 --> 03:05:28,290
That's the very last one.

5558
03:05:28,410 --> 03:05:30,450
We would like to welcome to the Commodore

5559
03:05:30,450 --> 03:05:31,950
ship for the last time.

5560
03:05:32,210 --> 03:05:34,790
The one, the only Commodore Elliot.

5561
03:05:35,730 --> 03:05:38,250
And as always, Commodore arriving.

5562
03:05:40,090 --> 03:05:40,930
Very nice.

5563
03:05:40,930 --> 03:05:42,270
Go to noagenderings.com.

5564
03:05:42,350 --> 03:05:45,810
That's where you can find your Commodore entry

5565
03:05:45,810 --> 03:05:46,370
form.

5566
03:05:46,530 --> 03:05:48,310
Let us know what you want on your

5567
03:05:48,310 --> 03:05:51,670
Commodore certificate of authenticity, which is beautiful.

5568
03:05:52,030 --> 03:05:53,610
It has embossments and all that.

5569
03:05:53,710 --> 03:05:54,310
You can frame it.

5570
03:05:54,370 --> 03:05:55,350
You should frame it, actually.

5571
03:05:55,690 --> 03:05:57,250
Hang it on your wall and proudly display

5572
03:05:57,250 --> 03:05:58,870
that you are a Commodore of the No

5573
03:05:58,870 --> 03:05:59,590
Agenda Show.

5574
03:06:00,810 --> 03:06:03,650
No Agenda Meetups.

5575
03:06:07,210 --> 03:06:08,650
Yes, the No Agenda Meetups.

5576
03:06:08,750 --> 03:06:09,910
They're a big deal, everybody.

5577
03:06:09,910 --> 03:06:12,930
They're a very big deal, these meetups, because

5578
03:06:12,930 --> 03:06:16,250
it's where you get connection and protection.

5579
03:06:16,430 --> 03:06:18,250
It's where you will meet the first responders

5580
03:06:18,250 --> 03:06:19,710
in an emergency in your life.

5581
03:06:19,810 --> 03:06:21,790
People who go to No Agenda Meetups have

5582
03:06:21,790 --> 03:06:26,250
relationships that last for decades, eons perhaps even.

5583
03:06:27,270 --> 03:06:31,050
And we have a report from Scheveningen where

5584
03:06:31,050 --> 03:06:33,490
it's a little bit cold, but they jumped

5585
03:06:33,490 --> 03:06:36,770
into the North Sea, which is a very,

5586
03:06:36,870 --> 03:06:38,870
very Dutch thing to do at this time

5587
03:06:38,870 --> 03:06:39,270
of year.

5588
03:06:39,270 --> 03:06:42,090
This is the first No Agenda Splash-Up

5589
03:06:42,090 --> 03:06:42,530
Meetup.

5590
03:06:42,570 --> 03:06:44,730
In the morning, this is Roland, Splash-Up

5591
03:06:44,730 --> 03:06:45,690
in Scheveningen.

5592
03:06:46,170 --> 03:06:48,690
In the morning, and happy birthday to Arno.

5593
03:06:49,070 --> 03:06:50,490
Ik heb er nog niet over nagedacht.

5594
03:06:50,610 --> 03:06:53,730
In the morning, from sun-drenched Scheveningen in

5595
03:06:53,730 --> 03:06:54,130
Holland.

5596
03:06:54,370 --> 03:06:56,670
In the morning, this is Freya at the

5597
03:06:56,670 --> 03:06:59,570
Hard Beach Club in Scheveningen at the Splash

5598
03:06:59,570 --> 03:06:59,790
-Up.

5599
03:07:00,030 --> 03:07:00,530
Great meeting.

5600
03:07:00,750 --> 03:07:01,450
Thank you, Arno.

5601
03:07:01,790 --> 03:07:03,890
In the morning, Natalia here, and I just

5602
03:07:03,890 --> 03:07:06,430
had some spicy mussels, and now I'm going

5603
03:07:06,430 --> 03:07:08,910
to splash into the sea like a mermaid.

5604
03:07:09,270 --> 03:07:10,190
Hi, I'm Caroline.

5605
03:07:10,490 --> 03:07:12,710
It's really great to meet each other here

5606
03:07:12,710 --> 03:07:13,270
again.

5607
03:07:13,690 --> 03:07:15,250
And there are a few tough guys with

5608
03:07:15,250 --> 03:07:16,410
us, because they just went into the sea.

5609
03:07:16,890 --> 03:07:17,930
And they swam nicely.

5610
03:07:18,390 --> 03:07:19,190
Well, I didn't.

5611
03:07:20,350 --> 03:07:21,250
Hi, I'm Chris.

5612
03:07:21,390 --> 03:07:22,990
It's been really fun serving everyone.

5613
03:07:23,390 --> 03:07:24,210
It's a really fun day.

5614
03:07:24,690 --> 03:07:25,510
Life is amazing.

5615
03:07:25,770 --> 03:07:26,630
Enjoy every second.

5616
03:07:26,850 --> 03:07:28,950
All right, with some coded messages in there.

5617
03:07:29,030 --> 03:07:31,030
They really got into the North Sea.

5618
03:07:31,330 --> 03:07:33,030
And there's the server at the end too.

5619
03:07:33,170 --> 03:07:35,370
Yes, I think the Dutch girl also was

5620
03:07:35,370 --> 03:07:35,750
a server.

5621
03:07:35,910 --> 03:07:37,230
She said, these people are crazy.

5622
03:07:37,330 --> 03:07:38,490
They're jumping into the ocean.

5623
03:07:38,490 --> 03:07:39,550
It's too cold.

5624
03:07:39,890 --> 03:07:41,610
That's what No Agenda people do.

5625
03:07:41,750 --> 03:07:42,350
We're crazy.

5626
03:07:42,490 --> 03:07:44,130
But we are lovable crazies.

5627
03:07:44,210 --> 03:07:45,990
Tonight, you can join them at the Quad

5628
03:07:45,990 --> 03:07:47,630
Cities, Iowa area meetup.

5629
03:07:47,710 --> 03:07:50,430
Seven o'clock in Lopez, Davenport, Iowa.

5630
03:07:50,690 --> 03:07:52,010
Big nasty organizing that.

5631
03:07:52,330 --> 03:07:54,090
And on Saturday, the Treasure Valley meetup.

5632
03:07:54,170 --> 03:07:56,090
Three o'clock at Old State Saloon in

5633
03:07:56,090 --> 03:07:57,050
Eagle, Idaho.

5634
03:07:57,230 --> 03:07:59,790
Now, we have some important meetups coming up

5635
03:07:59,790 --> 03:08:00,290
this month.

5636
03:08:00,490 --> 03:08:01,910
Leiden in the Netherlands.

5637
03:08:02,010 --> 03:08:03,210
That'll be on the 14th.

5638
03:08:03,510 --> 03:08:05,250
Charlotte, North Carolina on the 15th.

5639
03:08:05,270 --> 03:08:08,030
The 16th is Whitefield, New Hampshire.

5640
03:08:08,030 --> 03:08:10,970
On the 17th, we are loaded for bear.

5641
03:08:11,270 --> 03:08:11,850
Bedford, Texas.

5642
03:08:12,050 --> 03:08:13,410
Colorado Springs, Colorado.

5643
03:08:13,630 --> 03:08:14,550
Fort Wayne, Indiana.

5644
03:08:14,730 --> 03:08:15,650
New Canton, Virginia.

5645
03:08:16,090 --> 03:08:16,870
Springfield, Oregon.

5646
03:08:17,190 --> 03:08:19,090
And, well, it's Lukenbach technically.

5647
03:08:19,310 --> 03:08:20,530
But Fredericksburg, Texas.

5648
03:08:20,770 --> 03:08:21,790
Curry and the Keeper will be there.

5649
03:08:21,890 --> 03:08:25,290
And many more of your local Texas celebrities.

5650
03:08:25,830 --> 03:08:27,150
Keen, New Hampshire on the 18th.

5651
03:08:27,350 --> 03:08:29,550
Culemborg in Gelderland in the Netherlands on the

5652
03:08:29,550 --> 03:08:30,010
29th.

5653
03:08:30,030 --> 03:08:32,410
The 31st, Pensauken Township, New Jersey.

5654
03:08:32,890 --> 03:08:34,750
Overland Park, Kansas on the 31st.

5655
03:08:35,030 --> 03:08:36,950
And Long Beach, California, 31st.

5656
03:08:36,950 --> 03:08:38,070
Bravo at it again.

5657
03:08:38,230 --> 03:08:39,430
And I might as well throw this one

5658
03:08:39,430 --> 03:08:40,870
in on June 1st.

5659
03:08:40,910 --> 03:08:41,650
Tokyo, Japan.

5660
03:08:42,030 --> 03:08:43,330
Are you getting the picture here?

5661
03:08:43,550 --> 03:08:45,350
These No Agenda meetups, they're not just like

5662
03:08:45,350 --> 03:08:46,770
some little thing.

5663
03:08:46,890 --> 03:08:48,070
This is a whole movement.

5664
03:08:48,230 --> 03:08:49,610
Go to noagendameetups.com.

5665
03:08:49,710 --> 03:08:50,430
Find one near you.

5666
03:08:50,490 --> 03:08:52,270
If you can't find one, start one yourself.

5667
03:08:52,390 --> 03:08:54,410
It's easy and always guaranteed a party.

5668
03:09:12,550 --> 03:09:16,130
Well, to use a Dutchism in the old

5669
03:09:16,130 --> 03:09:19,170
country for ISOs, I threw my cap at

5670
03:09:19,170 --> 03:09:19,490
it.

5671
03:09:20,190 --> 03:09:21,410
Threw my cap at it.

5672
03:09:23,110 --> 03:09:23,810
Which means...

5673
03:09:23,810 --> 03:09:24,970
Did the cap hit anything?

5674
03:09:25,130 --> 03:09:27,590
No, I mean, I just threw my cap

5675
03:09:27,590 --> 03:09:28,670
at it.

5676
03:09:31,110 --> 03:09:33,250
Which means I didn't really do a lot

5677
03:09:33,250 --> 03:09:33,530
of work.

5678
03:09:33,650 --> 03:09:34,390
Didn't do a good job.

5679
03:09:35,130 --> 03:09:36,130
So you don't have anything.

5680
03:09:36,130 --> 03:09:36,390
I do.

5681
03:09:36,550 --> 03:09:37,270
I have three.

5682
03:09:37,450 --> 03:09:37,890
I have three.

5683
03:09:38,230 --> 03:09:39,010
Okay, let's go.

5684
03:09:39,310 --> 03:09:40,930
I made it to No Agenda.

5685
03:09:41,510 --> 03:09:41,950
Okay.

5686
03:09:42,630 --> 03:09:43,590
Well, that's nice.

5687
03:09:43,630 --> 03:09:44,130
It's not bad.

5688
03:09:44,190 --> 03:09:45,310
A little embarrassing.

5689
03:09:46,050 --> 03:09:48,290
Okay, and maybe this one.

5690
03:09:51,810 --> 03:09:52,670
Yeah, it's not bad.

5691
03:09:52,870 --> 03:09:53,910
All right, I got three.

5692
03:09:54,090 --> 03:09:54,490
Okay.

5693
03:09:55,110 --> 03:09:56,350
I got WTH.

5694
03:09:57,850 --> 03:09:58,290
WTH.

5695
03:09:58,490 --> 03:09:59,450
What the hell's going on here?

5696
03:10:00,670 --> 03:10:02,970
No Biden end of show ISOs, man.

5697
03:10:03,090 --> 03:10:03,250
No.

5698
03:10:04,770 --> 03:10:05,570
That's just...

5699
03:10:05,570 --> 03:10:05,890
No.

5700
03:10:05,990 --> 03:10:07,390
Okay, how about Adorbs?

5701
03:10:07,590 --> 03:10:09,210
That podcast was Adorbs.

5702
03:10:09,310 --> 03:10:11,670
Yeah, well, that end of show ISO is

5703
03:10:11,670 --> 03:10:12,970
AI, but it's not bad.

5704
03:10:14,050 --> 03:10:15,250
Well, then let's go with the last one.

5705
03:10:15,270 --> 03:10:15,670
So good.

5706
03:10:15,830 --> 03:10:18,370
These podcasters are so good at this.

5707
03:10:19,250 --> 03:10:20,330
No, I'll go with...

5708
03:10:20,330 --> 03:10:21,810
That podcast was Adorbs.

5709
03:10:21,910 --> 03:10:23,870
I think that's just gay enough, John.

5710
03:10:24,770 --> 03:10:25,990
It's definitely gay.

5711
03:10:26,610 --> 03:10:27,350
Hey, everybody.

5712
03:10:27,470 --> 03:10:29,030
It's time for our final bit here.

5713
03:10:29,110 --> 03:10:30,870
It's No Agenda's John's Tip of the Day.

5714
03:10:39,970 --> 03:10:46,050
Okay, this is a product everyone should have.

5715
03:10:46,230 --> 03:10:48,070
You should buy them in packs of eight

5716
03:10:48,070 --> 03:10:48,590
or ten.

5717
03:10:49,810 --> 03:10:52,150
And the key to success with these items

5718
03:10:52,150 --> 03:10:53,810
is they have to be fresh.

5719
03:10:54,030 --> 03:10:54,490
Fresh.

5720
03:10:55,230 --> 03:10:58,530
Which I recommend finding the vendor and getting

5721
03:10:58,530 --> 03:11:00,670
them shipped directly from the vendor or getting

5722
03:11:00,670 --> 03:11:03,770
a popular one from Amazon where you know

5723
03:11:03,770 --> 03:11:04,230
it's fresh.

5724
03:11:05,210 --> 03:11:08,570
Pheromone Moth Attractant Sticky Pads.

5725
03:11:11,910 --> 03:11:15,550
Okay, why would we want to have Pheromone

5726
03:11:15,550 --> 03:11:17,810
Moth Sticky Pads?

5727
03:11:18,770 --> 03:11:19,730
Pheromone Moth...

5728
03:11:19,730 --> 03:11:22,310
Well, for one reason, I found a moth

5729
03:11:22,310 --> 03:11:24,970
attack on one of my Persian rugs.

5730
03:11:25,070 --> 03:11:26,390
Oh, wait, wait, wait.

5731
03:11:26,410 --> 03:11:27,490
You have Persian rugs?

5732
03:11:28,050 --> 03:11:28,830
Yeah, I have a couple.

5733
03:11:29,010 --> 03:11:30,650
Do you fly around on them?

5734
03:11:32,890 --> 03:11:35,110
Persian rugs are a really good price nowadays,

5735
03:11:35,250 --> 03:11:35,610
by the way.

5736
03:11:35,730 --> 03:11:36,230
Best price.

5737
03:11:36,390 --> 03:11:37,810
But do you have them on the floor

5738
03:11:37,810 --> 03:11:38,650
or in your...

5739
03:11:38,650 --> 03:11:39,330
Yeah, they're on the floor.

5740
03:11:39,490 --> 03:11:39,710
I got them.

5741
03:11:39,790 --> 03:11:40,470
They're all over the place.

5742
03:11:40,590 --> 03:11:41,050
We have...

5743
03:11:41,050 --> 03:11:42,990
Everybody in the family has a bunch of

5744
03:11:42,990 --> 03:11:45,590
these either Turkish or Persian rugs.

5745
03:11:45,910 --> 03:11:46,270
Interesting.

5746
03:11:46,650 --> 03:11:48,650
Something I did not know about the Dvorak

5747
03:11:48,650 --> 03:11:49,010
clan.

5748
03:11:49,190 --> 03:11:50,570
I learned something new every day.

5749
03:11:50,730 --> 03:11:51,530
These rugs are great.

5750
03:11:52,610 --> 03:11:54,370
And they're not expensive anymore.

5751
03:11:54,550 --> 03:11:54,730
No.

5752
03:11:56,850 --> 03:11:57,990
So the moths...

5753
03:11:57,990 --> 03:11:58,930
So here's the deal.

5754
03:11:58,930 --> 03:12:00,270
The pheromone...

5755
03:12:00,270 --> 03:12:02,150
There are moths in the world, and they

5756
03:12:02,150 --> 03:12:03,470
get in the house, and you wouldn't even

5757
03:12:03,470 --> 03:12:03,810
know it.

5758
03:12:03,890 --> 03:12:05,270
I'm telling you, you pull out one of

5759
03:12:05,270 --> 03:12:08,590
these pheromone moth pack strips, or it's actually

5760
03:12:08,590 --> 03:12:09,010
a little...

5761
03:12:09,010 --> 03:12:10,830
It's like a sticky pad, like you catch

5762
03:12:10,830 --> 03:12:12,270
a mouse with when you pull the top

5763
03:12:12,270 --> 03:12:12,490
off.

5764
03:12:12,610 --> 03:12:14,230
The pheromones get released.

5765
03:12:14,690 --> 03:12:16,150
You put it on top of the refrigerator.

5766
03:12:16,510 --> 03:12:17,390
You put it somewhere.

5767
03:12:18,230 --> 03:12:20,270
And by the way, it's F-H-E

5768
03:12:20,270 --> 03:12:21,630
-E-R-M-O-N-E, and you

5769
03:12:21,630 --> 03:12:22,450
can get them...

5770
03:12:22,450 --> 03:12:23,470
You can look it up that way.

5771
03:12:25,690 --> 03:12:27,090
You've never seen anything like it.

5772
03:12:27,090 --> 03:12:29,970
I don't care how clean and fancy your

5773
03:12:29,970 --> 03:12:30,390
house is.

5774
03:12:30,550 --> 03:12:31,510
There's no moths in there.

5775
03:12:31,590 --> 03:12:32,390
No, that's for sure.

5776
03:12:32,790 --> 03:12:34,230
Put one of these on top of the

5777
03:12:34,230 --> 03:12:35,750
refrigerator, a good fresh one.

5778
03:12:36,550 --> 03:12:40,910
And within 10 minutes, all of a sudden,

5779
03:12:41,310 --> 03:12:44,110
you'll find moths are in your house.

5780
03:12:44,230 --> 03:12:45,470
Oh no, that's disgusting.

5781
03:12:45,470 --> 03:12:47,250
Because they're flying to the attractant, and then

5782
03:12:47,250 --> 03:12:48,770
they get stuck on the thing.

5783
03:12:48,850 --> 03:12:49,710
It's mostly the males.

5784
03:12:49,890 --> 03:12:51,190
And then they're a tasty treat.

5785
03:12:51,910 --> 03:12:53,050
And well, no, they're not.

5786
03:12:53,090 --> 03:12:54,830
It just becomes they're stuck in the goo,

5787
03:12:54,910 --> 03:12:55,610
and that's the end of them.

5788
03:12:55,610 --> 03:13:00,730
Everybody has these stupid moths in their house,

5789
03:13:00,790 --> 03:13:01,630
and they don't know it.

5790
03:13:01,730 --> 03:13:03,030
And you want to get these traps.

5791
03:13:03,110 --> 03:13:04,690
That's why they sell them in 10 packs,

5792
03:13:04,830 --> 03:13:07,070
because that's how many moths you'll end up

5793
03:13:07,070 --> 03:13:07,610
capturing.

5794
03:13:08,670 --> 03:13:09,790
So this is a big deal.

5795
03:13:10,750 --> 03:13:12,550
I'm sorry I didn't do it on the

5796
03:13:12,550 --> 03:13:14,510
room that had the nice rug in it.

5797
03:13:14,670 --> 03:13:16,610
But if you have it on top of

5798
03:13:16,610 --> 03:13:18,570
the refrigerator, will it attract them from the

5799
03:13:18,570 --> 03:13:19,790
room with the nice rug?

5800
03:13:19,850 --> 03:13:20,910
Does it work that far?

5801
03:13:20,910 --> 03:13:23,850
No, it'll suck them in from about typically

5802
03:13:23,850 --> 03:13:26,110
from three or four rooms.

5803
03:13:26,890 --> 03:13:27,090
Wow.

5804
03:13:27,590 --> 03:13:29,010
This is powerful.

5805
03:13:29,390 --> 03:13:31,110
I'm kind of afraid to do that, because

5806
03:13:31,110 --> 03:13:32,950
then it was like, if Tina sees, like,

5807
03:13:32,990 --> 03:13:33,830
oh, now we have moths.

5808
03:13:34,030 --> 03:13:36,510
She's bad enough with me putting down mousetraps,

5809
03:13:36,690 --> 03:13:38,070
because I always catch something.

5810
03:13:39,150 --> 03:13:41,370
Yeah, well, put it somewhere where she can't

5811
03:13:41,370 --> 03:13:41,750
see them.

5812
03:13:42,670 --> 03:13:44,950
And do it when she's not around, because

5813
03:13:44,950 --> 03:13:47,070
it'll be within, I'm telling you, within five

5814
03:13:47,070 --> 03:13:49,250
or 10 minutes, you'll start to see moths.

5815
03:13:49,770 --> 03:13:51,570
They're all heading to the trap.

5816
03:13:52,590 --> 03:13:55,150
It's gross, actually, how many moths all of

5817
03:13:55,150 --> 03:13:56,630
a sudden show up in your house.

5818
03:13:57,050 --> 03:13:59,050
Another gross tip of the day.

5819
03:13:59,150 --> 03:14:01,290
Ladies and gentlemen, go review it at tipoftheday

5820
03:14:01,290 --> 03:14:03,130
.at, noagendafund.com.

5821
03:14:12,650 --> 03:14:15,150
By the way, that tip of the day

5822
03:14:15,150 --> 03:14:16,770
jingle is by Shwu Michael.

5823
03:14:16,770 --> 03:14:20,210
Michael is the guitarist for Mercy Me, and

5824
03:14:20,210 --> 03:14:22,170
Tina is up in Cedar Park going to

5825
03:14:22,170 --> 03:14:23,050
see the show tonight.

5826
03:14:23,570 --> 03:14:25,130
She's not going to stiff him like you

5827
03:14:25,130 --> 03:14:26,910
did when they came to play.

5828
03:14:28,470 --> 03:14:29,930
I'll go and have drinks with him.

5829
03:14:30,010 --> 03:14:31,450
I sent him a text saying, call Tina

5830
03:14:31,450 --> 03:14:32,510
out from stage, man.

5831
03:14:33,330 --> 03:14:33,990
That'll be fun.

5832
03:14:34,370 --> 03:14:35,130
I don't know if he'll do it.

5833
03:14:35,210 --> 03:14:36,710
He always wears a No Agenda shirt when

5834
03:14:36,710 --> 03:14:37,130
playing, though.

5835
03:14:37,150 --> 03:14:37,790
That's pretty cool.

5836
03:14:39,510 --> 03:14:40,070
That's it.

5837
03:14:40,230 --> 03:14:42,530
Our broadcast day has concluded.

5838
03:14:42,710 --> 03:14:44,910
We do have, oh, look at this.

5839
03:14:44,910 --> 03:14:47,550
Curry and the Keeper, episode 132, recorded just

5840
03:14:47,550 --> 03:14:48,150
last night.

5841
03:14:48,650 --> 03:14:49,990
A Mounder is the title.

5842
03:14:50,150 --> 03:14:51,710
That's coming up next on your No Agenda

5843
03:14:51,710 --> 03:14:53,710
stream or your modern podcast app.

5844
03:14:54,170 --> 03:14:56,590
And, of course, we will return on Sunday

5845
03:14:56,590 --> 03:14:58,650
as usual, where we will bring you another

5846
03:14:58,650 --> 03:15:05,950
minimum three hours of completely bonus content, firewall,

5847
03:15:05,950 --> 03:15:09,110
paywall-free beauty, which we do as a

5848
03:15:09,110 --> 03:15:09,810
public service.

5849
03:15:10,010 --> 03:15:13,070
End of show mixes from James Bosworth.

5850
03:15:13,190 --> 03:15:13,750
He's back.

5851
03:15:13,750 --> 03:15:16,270
And Nautilus K., who's on a roll.

5852
03:15:16,810 --> 03:15:17,930
And I am coming to you from the

5853
03:15:17,930 --> 03:15:19,870
heart of the Texas Hill Country here in

5854
03:15:19,870 --> 03:15:21,770
Fredericksburg, where we have that meetup coming up

5855
03:15:21,770 --> 03:15:22,590
on the 17th.

5856
03:15:22,590 --> 03:15:23,410
In the morning, everybody.

5857
03:15:23,570 --> 03:15:24,350
I'm Adam Curry.

5858
03:15:24,490 --> 03:15:26,530
And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.

5859
03:15:26,590 --> 03:15:26,890
Dvorak.

5860
03:15:26,910 --> 03:15:27,890
We return on Sunday.

5861
03:15:28,030 --> 03:15:29,870
Please join us here for more No Agenda.

5862
03:15:29,990 --> 03:15:34,110
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and

5863
03:15:34,110 --> 03:15:34,910
such.

5864
03:16:25,480 --> 03:16:27,360
Without the big butt or the money.

5865
03:16:28,320 --> 03:16:30,220
Without the big butt or the money.

5866
03:16:53,650 --> 03:16:54,850
Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs.

5867
03:16:57,120 --> 03:16:59,260
Yeah, so you acknowledge when you announce the

5868
03:16:59,260 --> 03:17:02,360
tariffs, for example, the stock market dropped.

5869
03:17:02,580 --> 03:17:03,100
It's been volatile.

5870
03:17:03,280 --> 03:17:04,540
It has since gone up.

5871
03:17:04,860 --> 03:17:04,960
Well, it is.

5872
03:17:04,960 --> 03:17:07,040
Do you take responsibility for that?

5873
03:17:07,540 --> 03:17:07,640
Yeah.

5874
03:17:07,860 --> 03:17:09,740
Do you take responsibility when it drops?

5875
03:17:09,780 --> 03:17:12,200
Ultimately, I take responsibility for everything.

5876
03:17:12,340 --> 03:17:14,180
But I've only just been here for a

5877
03:17:14,180 --> 03:17:15,260
little more than three months.

5878
03:17:17,520 --> 03:17:17,760
Yeah.

5879
03:17:17,900 --> 03:17:20,140
Maybe the children will have two dolls instead

5880
03:17:20,140 --> 03:17:20,920
of 30 dolls.

5881
03:17:43,920 --> 03:17:45,980
What a conversation.

5882
03:17:46,120 --> 03:17:48,420
That is pretty like cult network news.

5883
03:17:51,420 --> 03:17:52,380
Go from China.

5884
03:17:52,560 --> 03:17:53,100
Wake up, people.

5885
03:17:56,020 --> 03:17:56,460
Tariffs.

5886
03:17:56,740 --> 03:17:58,660
Maybe the children will have two dolls instead

5887
03:17:58,660 --> 03:17:59,460
of 30 dolls.

5888
03:18:01,940 --> 03:18:02,380
Tariffs.

5889
03:18:02,440 --> 03:18:04,160
Stop buying junk from China.

5890
03:18:04,400 --> 03:18:04,980
Wake up, people.

5891
03:18:05,020 --> 03:18:05,160
Yeah.

5892
03:18:07,850 --> 03:18:08,290
Tariffs.

5893
03:18:08,370 --> 03:18:10,490
Maybe the children will have two dolls instead

5894
03:18:10,490 --> 03:18:11,270
of 30 dolls.

5895
03:18:13,890 --> 03:18:14,230
Tariffs.

5896
03:18:14,350 --> 03:18:17,250
Are you saying that your tariffs will cause

5897
03:18:17,250 --> 03:18:18,650
some prices to go up?

5898
03:18:18,850 --> 03:18:20,070
No, I think the tariffs are going to

5899
03:18:20,070 --> 03:18:21,470
be great for us because it's going to

5900
03:18:21,470 --> 03:18:22,190
make us rich.

5901
03:18:22,290 --> 03:18:23,570
But you said some dolls are going to

5902
03:18:23,570 --> 03:18:24,010
cost more.

5903
03:18:24,030 --> 03:18:26,290
Isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices will

5904
03:18:26,290 --> 03:18:26,710
go up?

5905
03:18:26,710 --> 03:18:30,130
I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs,

5906
03:18:30,230 --> 03:18:32,190
if she's 11 years old, needs to have

5907
03:18:32,190 --> 03:18:33,990
30 dolls.

5908
03:18:34,210 --> 03:18:35,850
I think they can have three dolls or

5909
03:18:35,850 --> 03:18:36,570
four dolls.

5910
03:18:37,590 --> 03:18:37,770
Yeah.

5911
03:18:40,110 --> 03:18:40,710
Yeah.

5912
03:18:43,060 --> 03:18:43,700
Yeah.

5913
03:18:46,020 --> 03:18:46,660
Yeah.

5914
03:18:49,030 --> 03:18:49,570
Yeah.

5915
03:19:02,710 --> 03:19:04,890
That podcast was adorbs.