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I just couldn't take it anymore.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, March 1st, 2026.

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This is your award-winning Gilbert Nation Media

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assassination episode 1847.

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This is no agenda.

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Saying hello to the new boss and broadcasting

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live from the heart of the Texas hill

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country here in FEMA region number 6.

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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

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And from northern Silicon Valley, we're all wondering,

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did I miss something?

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I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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Yeah.

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Well, that was a little more extreme than

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I expected.

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I thought...

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I'm sorry.

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I thought we'd just blow some holes in

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the desert, but we went a lot further

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than I think you and I expected.

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This was more than a face-saving exercise.

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Yeah, well, I guess the back-channeling wasn't

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working out.

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Our back-channeling?

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Well, you know, we had the assumption that

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there's back-channeling going on in the...

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Everybody was in on the deal, and I

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guess somebody did something different, and it wasn't

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appreciated, and the results are obvious.

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Yeah, it was a face-saving exercise.

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Unfortunately, the face had to be saved from

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multiple locations.

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Bits and pieces.

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That was pretty extreme.

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And, of course, we're talking about, oh, for

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people who just listened to the show cold,

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who may not know what's going on, we

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bombed the hell out of Iran.

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Well, out of parts of Iran.

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Yeah, it was the parts that were important.

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The parts that mattered.

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And, of course, my email box is filled

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with people yelling at me.

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Yeah, that's probably just.

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Are you Brutus?

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Really?

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I mean, why should they be bothering me?

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You need to apologize to the anti-war

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people.

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I didn't bomb anybody.

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It's like now it's my fault.

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I got that note too.

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Now it's my fault.

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You guys, you phonies, you've been anti-war

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and here you are.

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We didn't even do a show yet.

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We haven't even done a show, and you're

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telling us what we're going to talk about.

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Give us a chance, will you?

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I did get a couple of thoughtful notes.

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One is like, I don't get it.

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A thoughtful note?

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Here's a thoughtful note from younger men.

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I don't get it.

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I'm just trying to get by.

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I'm a homeowner.

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I'm trying to do things.

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Here we are spending money we don't have

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bombing Iran.

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Another war.

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And I was thinking about it.

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I don't think there's been a single generation

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that hasn't been born into a world at

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war and a world in debt.

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Maybe with the exception of the time of

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King Solomon, but you were born in a

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period of war, were you not?

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Think carefully before you say World War I.

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Just think carefully.

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Korean War.

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I was born in 64.

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Vietnam War.

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Every single generation.

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I'll give you a war.

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What?

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Give me a date, I'll give you a

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war.

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1850.

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Isn't that Crimean War?

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Wasn't that 1850?

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There's a war in 1850, I'm sure of

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But the point is, is that this is

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what it is.

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And there's this feeling of, I deserve better.

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Yeah, we all deserve better.

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It was a period of peace during Clinton,

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I think, wasn't it?

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Didn't we bomb Kosovo?

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Herzegovina.

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It wasn't very peaceful over there.

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They also bombed the Chinese embassy during that

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little fracas.

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I remember, in fact, that was in the

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I remember Yugoslavia kicked off too.

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When Yugoslavia blew apart and became Bosnia-Herzegovina,

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Yugoslavia also became, yeah, Croatia, Slovenia.

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All came out of Yugoslavia.

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They still love Tito in Slovenia.

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When you go to Slovenia, which is a

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beautiful...

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Just order some Tito's vodka and see what

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Is Tito...

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on Sunday, along the river there, and there's

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all these old ladies with framed pictures of

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Tito.

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I don't know why I didn't buy one.

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But the point is everyone is born into

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a world at war and a world in

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debt.

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Has there ever been a time that the

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world has not been in some form of

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debt financing?

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The bad damn bankers.

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Yes, the bankers, I tell you.

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Those bankers.

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So that's what it is, and we're going

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to see if we can deconstruct what is

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going on in particular in the media.

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I found from TRT, the Turkish radio television

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outfit, a nice backgrounder on the history of

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Iran's supreme leader.

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that, there's even stuff I'd forgotten.

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but they got bumped by a lot of...

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BBC I liked a lot.

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I liked what the BBC was up to.

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very good job.

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just reiterating.

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gives some insight.

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Sunday talk shows from this morning that'll be

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a little more au courant.

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But let's just start with TRT.

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This is a two-parter.

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The history of Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei.

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Sayyid Ali Husseini Khamenei was born into a

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troubled time.

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1939, Mashahad Iran.

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World War II raged on Iran's doorsteps preceding

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a British and Soviet invasion that installed a

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young Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, on the peacock

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throne.

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seminary, studying under clerics including Ruhollah Khomeini.

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Like Khomeini, he believed the clergy's role was

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more than religious and joined the opposition against

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the monarchy.

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As revolutions swept Iran in 1979, Khomeini fought

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and won the ensuing power struggle.

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Khamenei was at his side to establish a

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new order, the Islamic Republic.

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And almost a decade later, he succeeded Khomeini

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as a supreme leader.

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Under his leadership, the Revolutionary Guard expanded its

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power and anti-American stance.

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Internal dissent grew.

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So too did allegations of mass corruption, cronyism

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and human rights abuses.

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In 2009, weeks of protests engulfed the country

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after a disputed presidential election.

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Khamenei sided with the incumbent president, Ahmadinejad, against

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raising concerns that it could soon develop an

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atomic bomb.

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I repeat that the Islamic Republic of Iran

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is not developing capabilities for nuclear weapons, but

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also will not overlook the rights of its

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people and their need for access to peaceful

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nuclear energy.

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And this is about, so the show had

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started, we were doing the show, we were

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there during the 2009, I think, wasn't that

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the Green Revolution?

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They tried to get it going?

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The Green Revolution during Obama.

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Who Obama, looking back on it, has said

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he missed the boat on that deal.

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So this is the time that he would

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have liked to have helped.

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The Israelis came into play.

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Israel threatened to take military action, but President

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Obama pursued a diplomatic path to constrain the

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Iranian program.

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Those efforts bore fruit in 2015 in the

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form of a deal to curb Iran's nuclear

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activities in return for sanctions relief.

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Khamenei backed the deal, which elevated some of

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Iran's economic distress.

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But in 2018, President Donald Trump withdrew from

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the agreement and imposed a maximum pressure campaign

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of economic sanctions.

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Iran did not bow to Trump, ratcheting up

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its nuclear program.

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At the same time, the Iranian economy collapsed

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and there was an explosion of domestic unrest

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after Agar was killed by security forces in

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2022.

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Iran backed Hamas during Israel's assault on Gaza

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that started the following year.

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But Hezbollah, Tehran's ally, was weakened by an

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Israeli offensive in 2024.

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And Iran's long-time partner, the Assad regime

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in Syria, fell from power, delivering another blow

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to Tehran's regional position.

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Trump took office for the second time in

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2025, seeking a new deal with Tehran.

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But talks ended abruptly after Israel attacked Iran

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in June.

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Certainly, the armed forces of the Islamic Republic

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will inflict heavy blows on this weak enemy.

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The nation stands with us.

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It stands behind the armed forces and the

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Islamic Republic and, God willing, will overcome this

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Zionist regime.

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The dear people should know this, be assured,

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and rest easy that there will be no

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leniency in this regard.

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His life marked by resistance to the West

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and dedication to the ideals of the revolution

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he helped lead.

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But that same attitude left his country isolated,

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unstable, and impoverished.

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There you go.

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That's a very short history from Turkish radio

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television.

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And the response to this is quite interesting.

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We have, well, of course, Lindsey Graham is

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just sweating.

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We shouldn't even include him.

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He's sliding across the floor out of wetness.

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He's so happy.

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I do have clips from him this morning.

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We can play them later if we want

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to laugh.

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probably be good, which is the NPR.

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I'm looking at my clip list.

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It's got a lot of Iranian clips here.

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Iranian.

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There was one here that was a NPR

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backgrounder.

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I don't know.

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I can't figure out what I'm doing here.

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This is rocking and rolling, baby.

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You don't know?

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You don't know where it is?

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Well, let me look.

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Let me help you out.

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You can usually find my clips better than

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I can, which I find embarrassing, by the

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way, but I decided to just put up

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with it.

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Well, that is only if you titled NPR.

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We have...

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I don't know.

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You got a lot of NPR here.

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You got all kinds of stuff.

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I thought there was a backgrounder.

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It should say backgrounder.

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I don't see any backgrounder.

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Okay, we'll just skip it.

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Move ahead.

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Backgrounder.

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No, you have no backgrounder.

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Well, I was going to say the opinions

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range from, I told you so, he's taking

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us back into another war, to this is

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no Iraq 2.0. I thought Tucker's take

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was so...

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Who's?

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Tucker.

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Tucker Carlson.

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So typical.

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Which is another take, which is out there,

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which I'm sure...

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Can I mention another take that I followed

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up on?

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There's a bunch of communists, and it turns

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out that Ray McGovern seems to be in

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this group, and I include Judge Napolitano, and

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they all had a take on this, and

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there's a very negative side to a lot

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of this, because I see the whole thing

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as being planned out from the day Trump

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got in office when he went to the

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Middle East.

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I would say even yes, he went to

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Saudi Arabia, Venezuela was...

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Made buddies with the Saudi guy.

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Well, there's your difference right there.

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First of all, the Saudis were not passive.

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They were active in this.

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Everybody was seemingly on our side.

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This was also not run from the Situation

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Room in the White House.

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This was run from Mar-a-Lago, which

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tells me the president kept this very quiet

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with a very small group and didn't want

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to...

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I mean, how quiet was the double armada?

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But, you know, the timing of everything was

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not going to take place from the White

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House for, I guess, obvious stooge and spy

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reasons.

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But here's the one from...

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And this may be closer to what you

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were talking about from Judge Nap and those

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guys.

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This is Tucker's take.

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Iraq was a true disaster, and Trump was

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the first big political candidate to say that

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out loud.

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He knows this.

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He always has.

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So why would he even be considering a

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war with Iran?

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Well, one way to think about it is

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the United States may not have a choice

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about whether or not this war starts because,

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of course, the government of Benjamin Netanyahu could

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always act unilaterally, preemptively against Iran and just

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do it, just strike Iran.

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What would happen then?

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Well, most likely the Iranians would strike Israel

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and then potentially strike American assets in the

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Gulf and then potentially strike energy facilities in

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the Gulf.

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And the United States would be, by definition,

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drawn in.

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So it's possible that the US government, while

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not anxious to go to war with Iran,

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is trying to find a way to contain

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the behavior of its closest ally, Israel.

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Rather than sit back and wait for Bibi

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to do something that we have to clean

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up, that we're implicated in and then sucked

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into, it's possible that the US government is

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attempting to steer this in a less destructive

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direction.

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It's possible.

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None of this, of course, is filtered down

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to people paying attention because, the few who

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are paying attention to this, because all the

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noise has been about Iran's nuclear weapons.

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They're on the verge of building a nuclear

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weapon any day now.

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This is a disappointing take from Tucker, because

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the one thing we definitely noticed is that

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that wasn't happening.

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There wasn't a, the bomb is coming next

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week.

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None of that was happening.

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And if Tucker's takeaway is, oh, well, Israel

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was going to do it, so we had

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to jump in.

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Come on.

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Well, that falls in line with another thesis

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that's out there, which is that we assuming

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that we moved all the stuff there for

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no good reason, by the way.

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You have to make a lot of leap

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of faith to accept any of this.

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And, of course, the people that dislike our

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show will groan when I come up with

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this one, but the thesis is that, oh,

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well, we moved the stuff to kind of

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threaten them, but we just wanted to do

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negotiations, and then the Israelis struck.

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They jumped the gun, and we had to

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go in and claim that we were part

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of it to make it look okay so

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it wasn't so obvious that Israel's telling us

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what to do.

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That thesis is out there, and that's actually

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very prevalent.

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Yeah, and what I find interesting is that

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AIPAC, with all its power, has not already

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organized all of their controlled congressmen, congresswomen, and

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senators to declare war.

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Yes.

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That hasn't happened.

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The other thing is the Israelis have mobilized

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100,000 of the IDF.

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We've lost three people by some sort of

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accident.

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We haven't really you know, for the Israelis

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that are telling us what to do, they're

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the ones getting killed.

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Well, there's always that, but I'm specifically because,

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you know, this Where's the media?

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Or the rest of it?

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All these people that have sold out to

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Israel because they're telling us what to do,

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how come they're not all doing an active

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war as we speak?

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Yeah, and...

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It doesn't.

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The nonsense aspect to that theory is just

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beyond us, the two of us.

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Because you're on board with me.

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We're two lonesome doves out here.

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As opposed to everyone who thinks that Israel's

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calling the shots.

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Yeah, well, they're doing a poor job because

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this is happening under the You're doing a

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poor job.

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This is under the War Powers resolution which

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means the President has 60 days I think

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all the notifications were made within the 48

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-hour period and he can extend it another

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60 days after that for a drawdown, and

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I'm pretty confident that well, no, I'm not

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actually.

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This is a big game that is being

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played, and either it's brilliant and Trump pulls

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it off and we build through, we piece

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through construction which is the whole idea of

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the Abraham Accords and the Board of Peace

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and the rebuilding of Gaza or World War

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III and we're all going to die.

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It's really only, it's pretty binary at this

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point.

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Well, there's other possibilities.

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There's a middle possibility which is an Iraq

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conflagration that hangs on and drags on forever.

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But Trump's not that style.

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He's impatient.

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He also made very clear that it's up

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to you, Iranians.

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Now, I find it hard to believe that

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we don't have people on the ground trying

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to steer stuff around, and I have some

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clips later about the new leadership council, Starfleet

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Command that is being set up, but maybe

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just to ease into all of this, this

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is the Iranian foreign minister.

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His take is that, hey man, negotiations were

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going quite well.

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What happened?

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This wasn't the deal?

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I don't know why the US administration insists

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to start a negotiation and then in the

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middle of negotiation attack the other party.

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Today happened exactly what last June happened.

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We were in the negotiations and it was

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interesting that this time we made a big

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progress.

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Two days ago on Thursday we had a

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very good meeting in Geneva together with Steve

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Witkoff and Jared Kushner and we were able

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to address serious questions related to Iran's nuclear

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program.

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We obviously have differences, but we resolved some

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of those differences and we decided to continue

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in order to resolve the rest of questions.

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We actually instructed the technical team to go

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to Vienna and have a meeting with IAEA

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so in order to find technical solutions for

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the problems we are facing in the negotiations.

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Everybody was happy at the end of those

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negotiations.

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As you saw His Excellency Badr al-Busayidi,

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the Foreign Minister of Oman who is mediating

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between us, he concluded by posting a tweet

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saying that today we made significant progress and

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before he posted his tweet he consulted with

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both delegations and both were happy.

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So I don't know why we were progressing

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in our talks and we had made good

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achievements and a deal was at our reach.

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Why they decided to attack us?

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Perhaps, you know, it was others who dragged

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the United States for their own benefits into

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this, you know, conflict.

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It's really pity.

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It's very unfortunate.

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I'm kind of with you on the idea

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that this was planned even before Trump took

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office.

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Just looking at Venezuela, you get that all

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set up, we got tons of oil, so

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the oil markets are reasonably stabilized.

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I think oil is probably up 10-15

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dollars, but it's not 100.

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And look at how Venezuela played out.

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No regime change.

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It's like, oh, you're the second in command,

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you're the VP?

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Okay, we're going to work with you.

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Obviously you've seen what happens if it doesn't

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go well.

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We have to, yeah, we have to assume,

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I mean, on the best case scenario, we

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have to assume that our people did their

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job and they lined a guy up in

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the IRGC or the military who's going to

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be the guy who emerges as the ruler

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and he's going to do business with us.

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The same thing that happened down in Venezuela.

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We already did a deal with that woman

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who's running the place in advance.

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We had our people on the ground doing

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their thing and they said, okay, we're going

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to do this and you want to get

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rid of this guy.

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Who else needs to go?

546
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Well, you better get rid of this guy,

547
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that guy, and this guy.

548
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Okay, we can do that.

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We'll get rid of all of them and

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then you're going to emerge and you'll make,

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you know, you can shake your fist a

552
00:22:01,590 --> 00:22:03,130
little while and then we'll do a deal.

553
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:04,430
Okay, I'm in.

554
00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:07,270
With the advantage that this also told China

555
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:10,430
to go home with their 400 billion dollar

556
00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:11,010
investment.

557
00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:13,530
Okay, it's over 10 years, but still that's

558
00:22:13,530 --> 00:22:14,570
half a trillion almost.

559
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:19,910
You know, they, China was the partner and

560
00:22:19,910 --> 00:22:21,750
China doesn't fight.

561
00:22:22,170 --> 00:22:23,910
They go, oh, they go, okay.

562
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:27,350
Now, if you listen to these guys on

563
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:30,490
the extreme, especially McGovern and some of these

564
00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:34,010
other guys, they talk about China was loading

565
00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:39,190
the Iranians up with all kinds of gear.

566
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:41,130
Yeah, cool gear, stuff that goes boom.

567
00:22:41,850 --> 00:22:43,610
And they had this one thing and this

568
00:22:43,610 --> 00:22:47,290
was mentioned, it's in the show notes because

569
00:22:47,290 --> 00:22:48,850
I had Adam put it in there.

570
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:52,170
And this has not been discussed by anybody.

571
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:54,270
And I don't want to bring it, I'll

572
00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:55,550
bring it in soon on the show, I

573
00:22:55,550 --> 00:22:56,470
guess I'll bring it right now.

574
00:22:56,570 --> 00:22:57,130
Yeah, go ahead.

575
00:22:57,650 --> 00:23:00,510
This was the Middle East Forum report and

576
00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:03,310
they had discovered that China, and I'll read

577
00:23:03,310 --> 00:23:07,330
the headline, China's aircraft carrier missile, killer missile

578
00:23:07,330 --> 00:23:09,590
may have been fast, may have fast forwarded

579
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:11,030
the Iran war of 2026.

580
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:14,790
The Chinese had developed and I heard a

581
00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:17,990
general It was a supersonic too, wasn't it?

582
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:19,250
I don't know.

583
00:23:19,330 --> 00:23:19,850
I think so.

584
00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:21,990
But there was a general in Iran that

585
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:24,990
had threatened and said, we have new weaponry

586
00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:27,090
that the world has never seen before and

587
00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:29,450
the Americans are in for a problem.

588
00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:31,770
And this is what they're talking about.

589
00:23:31,790 --> 00:23:36,270
The Chinese had imported these high speed missiles

590
00:23:36,270 --> 00:23:39,170
that were designed to take out aircraft carriers

591
00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:42,270
and they were months away from getting them

592
00:23:42,270 --> 00:23:45,290
operational because they need training and there's all

593
00:23:45,290 --> 00:23:46,990
these things I guess you have to you

594
00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:49,510
just can't light a match.

595
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:52,770
And this was going to blow up.

596
00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:54,270
It's not like Wile E.

597
00:23:54,450 --> 00:23:56,330
Coyote, you just light a match under that

598
00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:58,170
thing and it goes ah, that's disappointing.

599
00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:01,450
And if they had taken out the Gerald

600
00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:05,250
Ford or the Lincoln or the Abraham Lincoln

601
00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:08,670
or whatever, just imagine blowing up an aircraft

602
00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:13,670
carrier sinking it and killing 3,000 people

603
00:24:13,670 --> 00:24:15,550
and the whole, I mean, this would have

604
00:24:15,550 --> 00:24:18,570
been the end of Trump for sure and

605
00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:20,990
would have caused an issue.

606
00:24:21,230 --> 00:24:23,770
And the Chinese also apparently have long range

607
00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:25,530
radar that had to be taken out.

608
00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:29,110
It was a weapons testing program using Iran

609
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:29,990
as the proxy.

610
00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:31,830
Well, I heard that at least...

611
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:34,250
We couldn't take a chance on this thing

612
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:36,270
getting used and so we had to attack

613
00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:36,870
immediately.

614
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:40,090
And the president said that several times.

615
00:24:40,170 --> 00:24:42,490
He said that they've got stuff that can

616
00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:44,810
reach in Europe, they've got stuff that can

617
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:45,790
eventually reach us.

618
00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:47,870
And from what I heard from our boots

619
00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:49,390
on the ground on one of the ships,

620
00:24:49,690 --> 00:24:51,430
is that one of them was struck by

621
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:54,810
either a supersonic or a hypersonic missile and

622
00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:56,170
it was something they weren't expecting.

623
00:24:56,550 --> 00:24:58,870
Also not expecting is some of these drones.

624
00:24:59,550 --> 00:25:02,690
You said the ones that hit Bahrain?

625
00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:05,250
Man, that thing just sails under all of

626
00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:08,590
our super duper anti-missile tech and just

627
00:25:08,590 --> 00:25:11,010
blows out the half of a skyscraper.

628
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:12,050
Yeah.

629
00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:14,410
You know, so...

630
00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:16,690
And they were doing some analysis this morning

631
00:25:16,690 --> 00:25:18,430
about how it costs us...

632
00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:21,050
Our anti-missile missiles, the things that could

633
00:25:21,050 --> 00:25:23,690
take these drones out from the ground, they

634
00:25:23,690 --> 00:25:26,110
cost $300,000 a pop.

635
00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:29,890
And it could break us because these drones

636
00:25:29,890 --> 00:25:31,530
don't cost that much to make.

637
00:25:32,610 --> 00:25:34,430
And so they're shooting them out of the

638
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:37,470
sky with jet fighters and helicopters because it's

639
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:38,030
cheaper.

640
00:25:40,090 --> 00:25:41,210
There's a lot of issues.

641
00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:42,910
This was not going to get any better.

642
00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:44,150
This had to be stopped.

643
00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:46,610
I can say that thanks to my Mossad

644
00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:48,790
handlers, I'm not in Israel right now.

645
00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:50,870
They told me, don't go, man.

646
00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:51,370
Don't go.

647
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:51,990
Don't go.

648
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:52,770
It's not a good time.

649
00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:56,330
I would have been on the way...

650
00:25:56,330 --> 00:25:58,150
No, we would have been there already.

651
00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:00,070
You would have been stopped.

652
00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:02,070
Well, I would hope so.

653
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:04,190
When was the flight supposed to leave?

654
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:06,450
Uh...

655
00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:07,370
This morning.

656
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:09,830
I wouldn't have gone.

657
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:11,550
No, the airspace is done.

658
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:14,990
But that's only because we decided to stop

659
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:16,910
in Amsterdam first to see Christina.

660
00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:19,490
But the original plan was to be there

661
00:26:20,150 --> 00:26:20,470
Friday.

662
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:24,290
Oh, that would have been funny.

663
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:27,230
Yeah, I'd be doing the show from Egypt.

664
00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:28,030
Same thing.

665
00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:33,770
I have this analysis that came in from

666
00:26:33,770 --> 00:26:36,270
ABC and it was quite good about the...

667
00:26:36,270 --> 00:26:38,010
because that's what everybody wants to know is

668
00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:39,230
who's next?

669
00:26:39,410 --> 00:26:42,430
What is this leadership council that everyone's talking

670
00:26:42,430 --> 00:26:42,810
about?

671
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:45,090
There's short clips.

672
00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:47,410
I just wanted to play these because I

673
00:26:47,410 --> 00:26:49,770
think there's some interesting information.

674
00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:51,330
This guy seems to know what he's talking

675
00:26:51,330 --> 00:26:51,690
about.

676
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:54,570
Iran's top national security officials say an interim

677
00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:56,110
council will be formed today to rule the

678
00:26:56,110 --> 00:26:58,650
country after the Supreme Leader was assassinated.

679
00:26:58,870 --> 00:27:01,370
A three-member transitional council will govern until

680
00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:03,510
a panel of 88 members chooses a new

681
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:04,410
leader for the country.

682
00:27:04,550 --> 00:27:07,210
Joining us now via Zoom is Kian Tajbakhsh.

683
00:27:07,550 --> 00:27:09,850
He's an adjunct professor of urban policy at

684
00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:10,770
Columbia University.

685
00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:11,990
Kian, thank you for joining us.

686
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:13,290
It could be one or two days until

687
00:27:13,290 --> 00:27:14,270
a new leader is chosen.

688
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:15,770
What do you make of the speed of

689
00:27:15,770 --> 00:27:15,970
that?

690
00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:21,790
Well, it's not surprising because the Iranian regime

691
00:27:21,790 --> 00:27:24,030
has been in power for many decades.

692
00:27:24,270 --> 00:27:25,790
It's deeply institutionalized.

693
00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:28,310
It's deeply ideological.

694
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:31,610
And it does have a deep bench of

695
00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:34,710
middle-level and lower-level officers who for

696
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:37,970
decades have been preparing themselves for just this

697
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:38,430
scenario.

698
00:27:39,010 --> 00:27:41,830
And so I would imagine that over the

699
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:47,110
next week, a pre-planned scenario for providing

700
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:49,410
a new leadership will be put in place.

701
00:27:49,850 --> 00:27:51,230
We'll have to see who they are.

702
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:55,210
So there's a, according to this guy, there's

703
00:27:55,210 --> 00:27:57,510
two clocks ticking at the same time.

704
00:27:57,670 --> 00:27:58,830
We're in a race condition.

705
00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:01,230
So 88 members are going to be voting

706
00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:02,070
on this.

707
00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:02,890
Is that correct?

708
00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:04,770
But are we going to see a larger

709
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:07,730
democracy spread and emerge within Iran?

710
00:28:08,150 --> 00:28:10,230
I mean, I think some people think that

711
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:12,450
might just happen, but it's not that simple.

712
00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:14,710
That's correct.

713
00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:15,790
It's not that simple.

714
00:28:15,950 --> 00:28:17,970
But you can imagine, you can think about

715
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:20,170
it and there are two clocks ticking right

716
00:28:20,170 --> 00:28:20,530
now.

717
00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:24,470
One clock is the regime trying to scramble

718
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:28,610
and put itself back onto a secure footing,

719
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:31,850
try to put command and control and the

720
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:35,230
hierarchy of command across this huge territory.

721
00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,630
Remember Iran is bigger than, you know, France,

722
00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:40,370
Spain, and Italy combined.

723
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:44,130
And so they're going to try to reassemble.

724
00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:48,770
The second clock is the people inside Iran

725
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:51,210
who want to overthrow this regime.

726
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:54,650
They are waiting for to see how much

727
00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:58,890
damage the military operations that the United States

728
00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:02,190
and Israel is inflicting and whether the balance

729
00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:04,050
of power can shift towards them.

730
00:29:04,370 --> 00:29:06,010
Those are the two clocks that are racing

731
00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:06,630
at the moment.

732
00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:09,770
Which means an obvious power struggle, and that's

733
00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:10,810
what it's going to come down to.

734
00:29:10,930 --> 00:29:12,250
It seems like there might be some kind

735
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,230
of power struggle that could be happening in

736
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:14,410
Iran.

737
00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:16,910
Come on, man, I label my clips.

738
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:20,710
It's called scripting your clips.

739
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:22,210
This is the...

740
00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:23,770
Gutfeld does this.

741
00:29:24,170 --> 00:29:25,730
Well, it's called producing.

742
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:27,110
It seems like there might be some kind

743
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:29,070
of power struggle that could be happening in

744
00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:29,270
Iran.

745
00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:31,010
How many people do you think want to

746
00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:32,150
become the supreme leader?

747
00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:35,210
Well, I think that at the moment the

748
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:37,930
scenario that has been often spoken about is

749
00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:41,430
not a single supreme leader, but a group,

750
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:46,890
a kind of council of supreme leadership, which

751
00:29:46,890 --> 00:29:51,910
they feel is perhaps more protected from a

752
00:29:51,910 --> 00:29:54,110
future strike or a future assassination.

753
00:29:54,730 --> 00:29:57,090
But I think that at the moment we'll

754
00:29:57,090 --> 00:30:00,590
see about four or five people being nominated,

755
00:30:01,150 --> 00:30:05,150
and that 88-member council is a council

756
00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:09,610
of very elderly clerics, very ideological and fanatic,

757
00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:14,410
and they will just be a figurehead putting

758
00:30:14,410 --> 00:30:17,550
forward really what might be the IRGC or

759
00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:19,650
the military's chosen leaders.

760
00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:22,490
So that seems still kind of pretty much

761
00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:23,130
on the table.

762
00:30:23,290 --> 00:30:25,350
We don't know everything that's happening in Iran,

763
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:27,930
but this final clip is, of course, what

764
00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:30,470
the president called for and what the desired

765
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:33,210
outcome is of epic fury.

766
00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:37,270
During President Trump's video address he did make

767
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:39,470
a plea to the people of Iran.

768
00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:42,090
It makes it sound simple as though democracy

769
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,490
is being airdropped into Iran as we speak,

770
00:30:44,590 --> 00:30:46,750
and that it will just flourish and can

771
00:30:46,750 --> 00:30:46,850
happen.

772
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:49,750
I love how they keep bringing democracy into

773
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:49,970
it.

774
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:50,830
Democracy.

775
00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:52,270
No, that was Bush.

776
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,310
That's the old way of we're bringing democracy

777
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:55,870
to you.

778
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:56,670
As we speak.

779
00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:57,850
They never said that.

780
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:58,910
No, he didn't say that.

781
00:30:58,990 --> 00:31:01,750
It will just flourish and can happen.

782
00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:05,390
Will we see anything Would you say that

783
00:31:05,390 --> 00:31:22,410
most of Iran would

784
00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:25,310
like to see a different reality for themselves?

785
00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:26,070
What would you say?

786
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:28,590
Yes, I would say that from my I've

787
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:30,470
been living and working in that country for

788
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:35,570
many years, and my estimation is no more

789
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:39,110
than 15 20% of the population is

790
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:44,050
either ideologically committed or materially dependent on this

791
00:31:44,050 --> 00:31:44,490
regime.

792
00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:48,910
Maybe 30-40% are indifferent and are

793
00:31:48,910 --> 00:31:50,710
waiting to see what happens but there is

794
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:55,310
a large, significant minority, maybe 30, 40, 50

795
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:57,690
% I'm sure the majority of the Iranians

796
00:31:57,690 --> 00:32:00,110
who want to get rid of this regime

797
00:32:00,110 --> 00:32:04,970
and to move towards a secular a more

798
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:06,630
democratic regime.

799
00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:09,090
One point I'd just say in terms of

800
00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:13,770
what President Trump said which is that the

801
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:18,010
United States is not seeking directly regime change

802
00:32:18,010 --> 00:32:18,450
in Iran.

803
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:20,230
It's like a one-two punch.

804
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:23,450
The U.S. is securing its own national

805
00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:27,330
interest, weakening the possibility, weakening the regime and

806
00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:32,410
waiting and in a sense paving the road

807
00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:35,930
for the Iranian people themselves to pour into

808
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:38,550
the streets in their million to overthrow this

809
00:32:38,550 --> 00:32:39,030
regime.

810
00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:41,430
That is, I think, the game plan and

811
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:42,990
it's the most reasonable game plan.

812
00:32:43,810 --> 00:32:45,510
It's not a game plan.

813
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:46,890
I'm not seeing it.

814
00:32:47,410 --> 00:32:49,450
And the other thing is this idea that

815
00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:52,130
secular means democratic is bullcrap.

816
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:53,530
Well, that's ABC.

817
00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:58,390
They're still living in old-school regime change.

818
00:32:58,390 --> 00:32:58,970
No, you're right.

819
00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:00,550
I think you nailed it.

820
00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:02,190
They're thinking the George Bush era.

821
00:33:04,050 --> 00:33:05,530
I have a couple of clips.

822
00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:07,030
You want me to get some of these

823
00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:07,550
out of the way?

824
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:07,990
Yes, of course.

825
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:11,650
First of all, let's go to BBC.

826
00:33:12,030 --> 00:33:16,390
Well, actually Al Jazeera has some good stuff

827
00:33:16,390 --> 00:33:17,830
and I want to play this one.

828
00:33:18,050 --> 00:33:22,670
This is the they brought in this thesis

829
00:33:22,670 --> 00:33:28,010
of the IRGC and this let's play this

830
00:33:28,010 --> 00:33:29,990
so get my thinking out of the way,

831
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:34,470
which is Iran IRGC thesis.

832
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:35,830
AJ.

833
00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:39,270
Paul, if regime change is the stated objective

834
00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:40,850
here, now an air war on its own

835
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:41,850
is not going to cut it, is it?

836
00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:43,330
That's absolutely right.

837
00:33:43,870 --> 00:33:45,670
Well, it's right there.

838
00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:49,670
What he just said, the air war is

839
00:33:49,670 --> 00:33:50,610
not going to cut it.

840
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:53,770
Well, that's only if you want to force

841
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:54,830
your own puppets in.

842
00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:56,070
Then you have to have boots on the

843
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:56,390
ground.

844
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:58,650
No, who says this?

845
00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:00,730
The BBC does the same thing and we

846
00:34:00,730 --> 00:34:01,450
do the same thing.

847
00:34:01,570 --> 00:34:03,130
Everybody has said the same comment.

848
00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:04,530
BBC had it this morning.

849
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:05,850
I heard it and I just couldn't take

850
00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:06,270
it anymore.

851
00:34:06,790 --> 00:34:09,670
He said there's never you can't do regime

852
00:34:09,670 --> 00:34:11,290
change with airstrikes.

853
00:34:12,830 --> 00:34:14,210
Well, it depends on the definition.

854
00:34:14,670 --> 00:34:15,750
It's never happened and no one's ever done

855
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:15,889
it.

856
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:17,330
No one's ever tried it.

857
00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:19,469
When is the last?

858
00:34:19,570 --> 00:34:21,530
When has anyone ever tried to do regime

859
00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:22,870
change with airstrikes?

860
00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:25,750
Well, now this is a very good point.

861
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:28,409
It's never been done because it's never been

862
00:34:28,409 --> 00:34:28,850
tried.

863
00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:31,770
And my thinking is, okay, here's how it

864
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:31,909
works.

865
00:34:32,330 --> 00:34:33,270
I'll just say this.

866
00:34:34,429 --> 00:34:37,969
Every military person I've spoken to has that

867
00:34:37,969 --> 00:34:38,370
thesis.

868
00:34:39,130 --> 00:34:40,230
They all have the thesis.

869
00:34:40,409 --> 00:34:40,969
That's their training.

870
00:34:41,110 --> 00:34:42,389
The news guys have the thesis.

871
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:44,310
The military, yeah, because they want boots on

872
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:44,750
the ground.

873
00:34:44,929 --> 00:34:46,030
They want to kill people.

874
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:49,610
Lindsey Graham, go do some regime change.

875
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:50,889
Lindsey Graham is the classic.

876
00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:51,510
Send him.

877
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:52,429
They're all this way.

878
00:34:52,469 --> 00:34:54,570
They've all said this and they said it

879
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:55,290
in this clip.

880
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:58,410
You can't do regime change with airstrikes.

881
00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:01,370
Here's the way I would look at it.

882
00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:03,770
Because I thought this during the one of

883
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:07,630
the first crisis when they were bombing Afghanistan

884
00:35:07,630 --> 00:35:09,850
and then we had to put people down

885
00:35:09,850 --> 00:35:10,090
there.

886
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,330
The Afghanistanis, they really got freaked out when

887
00:35:14,330 --> 00:35:16,390
we were bombing them from the air and

888
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:17,990
then when we moved people and then they

889
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:20,490
were relaxed because now, okay, we can deal

890
00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:21,030
with this.

891
00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:28,170
If you have, for example, just airstrikes, you've

892
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:31,210
decided you want regime change and all we're

893
00:35:31,210 --> 00:35:33,670
going to do is do airstrikes until we

894
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:36,210
get it and you say, okay, there goes

895
00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:36,810
Khamenei.

896
00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:39,770
Boom, he gets blowed up.

897
00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:41,990
And then somebody else well, I've taken over.

898
00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:42,830
You guys suck.

899
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:44,070
Boom, you blow him up.

900
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:46,430
You keep blowing these guys up left and

901
00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:46,630
right.

902
00:35:46,810 --> 00:35:49,090
The Israelis were doing it through hotel windows

903
00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:53,130
supposedly and blowing up different bedrooms.

904
00:35:53,350 --> 00:35:56,150
They've already set the stage for killing these

905
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:57,870
guys left and right and left and right

906
00:35:57,870 --> 00:35:58,550
and left and right.

907
00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:01,190
You keep doing this with airstrikes and bombings.

908
00:36:01,590 --> 00:36:03,170
You never have to put boots on the

909
00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:03,310
ground.

910
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:05,390
You just keep doing this until they decide

911
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:07,310
that maybe this is not such a good

912
00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:09,050
idea because I'm going to get killed in

913
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:09,710
this job.

914
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:13,230
But no, no, you can't do it that

915
00:36:13,230 --> 00:36:13,450
way.

916
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:14,430
Why not?

917
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Well, I'm trying.

918
00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:20,720
I'm still trying to think if there's a

919
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,200
way that it's been done in the past.

920
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,760
It's never been tried.

921
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,440
Well, you know, they just make it as

922
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,220
an axiom.

923
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,420
You can't have regime change with airstrikes.

924
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:36,980
Why not?

925
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:39,240
And I hear it over and over and

926
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:39,340
over.

927
00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:40,680
Okay, so I made my point.

928
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,500
Let's listen to the rest of this clip.

929
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:43,940
An air war on its own is not

930
00:36:43,940 --> 00:36:44,720
going to cut it, is it?

931
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,180
That's absolutely right.

932
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:46,280
So what will?

933
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,180
Well, it's unclear what will.

934
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,540
And if you parse President Trump's statement very

935
00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:52,880
carefully, he doesn't say that the United States

936
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,660
will be in the business of regime change.

937
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,740
He says that the United States will facilitate

938
00:36:56,740 --> 00:36:59,680
the conditions whereby regime change will come about.

939
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:02,000
And underlying all of this, there's a lot

940
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,600
of context.

941
00:37:02,780 --> 00:37:06,280
Iran's nuclear enrichment program struggles with Israel, but

942
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360
also of course the crackdown on protesters over

943
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,500
the winter that, you know, led to thousands

944
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,360
or perhaps tens of thousands of deaths.

945
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,960
So in Washington and in Tel Aviv, there's

946
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,200
a sense that Iran's hold on power might

947
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,780
be fragile.

948
00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:23,320
That might be a little bit optimistic.

949
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,520
I think it is actually very optimistic because

950
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,580
people don't spontaneously rise up.

951
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,340
And the only organized bodies in Iran that

952
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:33,080
have the capability to take power if the

953
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,360
top echelons of Iran's leadership are removed, are

954
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,060
going to be groups like the IRGC, which

955
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:40,800
I don't think the Trump administration would view

956
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,300
as a win.

957
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:45,280
The Trump administration may be planning that as

958
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,640
a win.

959
00:37:46,660 --> 00:37:48,700
I like all the assumptions people make.

960
00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:51,100
How about, you know, so Operation Ajax, which

961
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:55,600
was in Iran in the 50s, that was,

962
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,860
I mean, we have seen CIA covert ops

963
00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:01,060
but without air power.

964
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,870
And arguably we kind of orchestrated through economics

965
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,040
a regime change in Russia.

966
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,400
But none of that was war.

967
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,920
That was just sneaky stuff done by CIA,

968
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,260
MI6, you know, operatives.

969
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,360
Yeah, well that's doable.

970
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:22,040
Yeah, but it's not quite the same as

971
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,280
blowing somebody up.

972
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,160
No, and keep blowing him up.

973
00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,380
The new guy, he gets blowed up.

974
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,040
Okay, so now let's, I want to play

975
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,660
these clips.

976
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:33,380
This is from the BBC, and this is

977
00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:36,000
a clip, this is Loren Blumenthal.

978
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,940
And you'll find clips two and three.

979
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,380
I killed clip one.

980
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Because it was useless.

981
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:48,340
It was an intro to her.

982
00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:49,200
Who is she?

983
00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:50,280
Who is Loren Blumenthal?

984
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,680
She is, I kept looking at her background.

985
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,480
She is a professor.

986
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640
She used to work for the State Department.

987
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,840
She's been this and that.

988
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:00,740
She's with Georgetown.

989
00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:03,940
She's now with Johns Hopkins.

990
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,240
Okay.

991
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,060
And she seems to me to be, and

992
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:11,280
she has no wiki page, and she's just

993
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,100
finding her bio is tough.

994
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:13,980
She's covered.

995
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:17,040
Can we just say it?

996
00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:18,080
Can we just say it?

997
00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:21,260
Yeah, but I don't think she's a CIA

998
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:21,680
spook.

999
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,840
I think she's one of the 300 Yeah,

1000
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,180
go ahead.

1001
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,060
I think she's one of the 300 real

1002
00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:32,000
super spooks that work for the State Department

1003
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,840
that INR, that Bureau of Research, whatever it's

1004
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,220
called.

1005
00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:40,420
Phony baloney little CIA that they've set up.

1006
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,400
Very spooky person.

1007
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,860
But not CIA type spooky.

1008
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,380
And I've noticed that the CIA will let

1009
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:55,600
people have wiki pages, but the State Department

1010
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,800
people won't because she's got no wiki page.

1011
00:39:57,860 --> 00:39:58,540
So I'm just thinking.

1012
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,720
Different HR department.

1013
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:03,180
So here we have her talking on the

1014
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:05,380
BBC that she's brought in as an expert

1015
00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:07,180
because she's an expert.

1016
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,460
Are there the conversations you think that have

1017
00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:11,200
been had about the next steps?

1018
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,180
Because that is one of the main questions

1019
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:16,120
we're certainly hearing from President Trump's critics, but

1020
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,260
really analysts as well.

1021
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:19,460
Have there been plans made for what happens

1022
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:19,900
next?

1023
00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:21,840
Well, it's very clever.

1024
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,060
It's interesting because yes, his critics are saying

1025
00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:24,780
this is reckless.

1026
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,020
He hasn't thought it through.

1027
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,700
What I hear from both Prime Minister Netanyahu

1028
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,240
of Israel and President Trump is a kind

1029
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,400
of we broke it, but you own it

1030
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,040
to the Iranian people.

1031
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,980
So the big question now is who will

1032
00:40:36,980 --> 00:40:37,660
seize power?

1033
00:40:38,140 --> 00:40:41,120
My sources, my top intelligence sources in Israel

1034
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,320
say to me that this has gone better

1035
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,760
than expected so far.

1036
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,800
That Iran has made every mistake possible and

1037
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,500
that's led to a great military success.

1038
00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:51,660
On the other hand, my diplomatic and political

1039
00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:53,860
sources in Israel say that we are not

1040
00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:55,120
even close to the dawn.

1041
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,780
That we've got a long way to go.

1042
00:40:56,860 --> 00:40:58,300
We are absolutely not there.

1043
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,820
Okay, I like her already.

1044
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,600
She has the right sources.

1045
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,060
That makes sense.

1046
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Yeah, what she said makes nothing but sense

1047
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,480
and it would be right that the spies,

1048
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,940
intelligence sources would have one way of seeing

1049
00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:16,600
things and the diplomats who are always wringing

1050
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,400
their hands would have another way of seeing

1051
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,760
things.

1052
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,320
And the Crown Prince is on his way,

1053
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:21,720
I hear.

1054
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,660
You know, that guy's been left out of

1055
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:25,300
the conversation.

1056
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:25,960
Of course he has.

1057
00:41:26,260 --> 00:41:28,260
Remember he wanted to go talk to Trump

1058
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:29,740
at Mar-a-Lago and Trump's like, man,

1059
00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:30,760
I got no time for that guy.

1060
00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:33,700
So I don't think he's the guy.

1061
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,120
No, he's not.

1062
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:36,400
It's got to be somebody else.

1063
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:37,640
It can't be that guy.

1064
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,880
So here's Blumenthal wrapping a little bit.

1065
00:41:42,260 --> 00:41:44,460
And we've also seen Iran striking U.S.

1066
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,200
partners in the region, Gulf states.

1067
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,960
We've seen Dubai hit.

1068
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:50,060
We've seen Doha hit, at least according to

1069
00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:51,760
the reports that we've been seeing here, Laura.

1070
00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:55,020
Do you think those regional partners could also

1071
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:57,420
play a role then in putting pressure on

1072
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,960
President Trump, on Israel to talk about how

1073
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,420
to wind the operation down?

1074
00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:03,960
That's certainly Iran's hope.

1075
00:42:04,540 --> 00:42:06,000
That's their chance for survival.

1076
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,920
That's happened in the past, that the Saudis

1077
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,660
and important American allies will put pressure on

1078
00:42:11,660 --> 00:42:14,060
Trump to take this, you know, to sort

1079
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:15,060
of dial it back.

1080
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,380
And I heard important words from President Trump

1081
00:42:17,380 --> 00:42:19,680
today, two important words among everything else, all

1082
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,520
the bluster, which was off-ramp.

1083
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:23,440
This could end in a day, it could

1084
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,880
end in a week, or maybe two or

1085
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,120
three, but that's about it.

1086
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:27,860
So I don't think this is going to

1087
00:42:27,860 --> 00:42:28,960
be a long-term conflict.

1088
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:30,880
And the sooner it's over, I do think,

1089
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,820
the better for everybody across the region.

1090
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Laura Blumenthal, it is always great to get

1091
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,880
your analysis on this breaking news day.

1092
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:38,820
Thank you so much, Laura.

1093
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,820
Really appreciate your time.

1094
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,980
Yeah, so the thesis that you're laying out

1095
00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:48,340
is every single time a new guy pops

1096
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:50,680
up, if he's not the guy, then we

1097
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,160
bomb him.

1098
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,760
Yeah.

1099
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:55,620
Wow.

1100
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,900
Well, it's one way of doing it.

1101
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:01,500
Yeah, that would cause an issue.

1102
00:43:01,940 --> 00:43:04,300
But I think the guy that we want

1103
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:05,580
is already lined up.

1104
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,180
Must be, must be.

1105
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Where's Victoria Nuland?

1106
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,980
Is it Nuland out there passing out donuts

1107
00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:11,540
to somebody?

1108
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:13,880
We don't see anybody like that involved.

1109
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,220
No.

1110
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:17,220
And I think the model that was set

1111
00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:19,640
up, it was staged and set up for

1112
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,240
Venezuela.

1113
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,820
Venezuela's the great opener because we get the

1114
00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:26,660
oil so that, because the Strait of Hormuz

1115
00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:29,880
thing is closed, and so, oh God, now

1116
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,240
what?

1117
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,260
Well, yeah, that's why we had the Venezuelan

1118
00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:33,320
oil, because it's similar.

1119
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,440
But that was also a test of how

1120
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,220
to do regime change by just taking out

1121
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:40,220
the top guy until we get down to

1122
00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:42,580
the one that can do the job for

1123
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:43,060
us.

1124
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,140
But what we didn't use is that cool

1125
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,880
discombobulator.

1126
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Yeah.

1127
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,160
A little disappointed we didn't use the discombobulator.

1128
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,500
Yeah, well, I think that has to be

1129
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:57,160
close range.

1130
00:43:57,260 --> 00:43:58,800
We're not putting any boots on the ground,

1131
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,220
so.

1132
00:43:59,380 --> 00:43:59,580
No.

1133
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,640
No, we're not.

1134
00:44:01,660 --> 00:44:02,980
Alright, I have some more.

1135
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,280
Do you have more that you want to

1136
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,380
roll?

1137
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:05,960
Yeah, I got plenty of clips, but you

1138
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,900
want to break it up here, you should

1139
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:08,380
take some.

1140
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,620
Okay, let us go to, well, let's just

1141
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:15,300
hear briefly about the Strait of Hormuz.

1142
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,480
Please go take a look at Google Maps,

1143
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,400
understand that all the Saudi oil comes through

1144
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:20,800
there.

1145
00:44:21,340 --> 00:44:24,560
That's where the oil, 90% of China's

1146
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,100
oil, comes from Iran, comes through the Strait

1147
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,960
of Hormuz, the ghost ships, etc.

1148
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,400
It's been a mess with the Houthis for

1149
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,980
years, letting the Chinese ships go, but, you

1150
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:37,680
know, making a hassle for everybody else.

1151
00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:41,360
Great helicopter video, and here's what Iran says

1152
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,780
about it.

1153
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,680
Iran's Revolutionary Guard is sending radio transmissions to

1154
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040
ships warning them that, quote, no ship is

1155
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,840
allowed to pass the Strait of Hormuz.

1156
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,700
That's according to the EU's naval mission, whose

1157
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:55,720
operations aim to protect international shipping from attacks.

1158
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,420
The Strait of Hormuz is a vital export

1159
00:44:58,420 --> 00:45:01,200
route for the Gulf's biggest oil producers, including

1160
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,800
Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

1161
00:45:03,980 --> 00:45:06,600
Around 20% of the world's crude oil

1162
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,540
flows through it.

1163
00:45:07,820 --> 00:45:10,280
Experts have warned that even a limited disruption

1164
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,360
could spike energy prices and fuel inflation.

1165
00:45:14,620 --> 00:45:16,140
No, probably not.

1166
00:45:16,420 --> 00:45:18,060
Hence the Venezuelan oil.

1167
00:45:18,260 --> 00:45:20,140
That was the gambit right there.

1168
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:21,400
It's like, we need that.

1169
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Secure that.

1170
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:22,680
It's got enough.

1171
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,340
We've got enough for our 60 days or

1172
00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:25,220
whatever we need.

1173
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:26,080
For us.

1174
00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:28,760
Not for China, for us.

1175
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,140
And left out of this whole thing are

1176
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:35,380
the Europeans and the Brits.

1177
00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:39,840
The Brits who kind of legendarily got into

1178
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,020
Persia, as it was known back in the

1179
00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:43,600
day, in what 1908?

1180
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,100
They're the ones who set us up.

1181
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,680
Yes.

1182
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:46,800
Go ahead.

1183
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,320
Say it.

1184
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,480
For their oil, because the Brits wanted...

1185
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:50,580
British Petroleum.

1186
00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:53,580
British Petroleum wanted more oil and so they

1187
00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:55,480
had, you know, and they had a democracy

1188
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,440
back in the day.

1189
00:45:56,540 --> 00:45:58,340
They were like, you know...

1190
00:45:58,340 --> 00:45:59,880
The girls wore miniskirts.

1191
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,100
They were gonna put the oil on the

1192
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:05,640
open market.

1193
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,120
The British wanted it all and so we

1194
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,280
put the Shah in play to make sure

1195
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,600
that the Brits got their way.

1196
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,100
Yeah.

1197
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880
And so they're out of this game and

1198
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,820
here's Keir Starmer admitting as much.

1199
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,460
Earlier this morning, the United States and Israel

1200
00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:24,760
struck targets in Iran.

1201
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,680
Iran has since launched indiscriminate strikes across the

1202
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,020
region.

1203
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:34,320
I know the British people and communicators across

1204
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,040
our country will be deeply concerned about what

1205
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,000
this means for security and stability and for

1206
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,420
the fate of innocent people across the region,

1207
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,440
which for so many of us includes friends

1208
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,680
and family members.

1209
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:54,440
So whilst the situation is evolving very quickly,

1210
00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:57,480
I want to set out our response.

1211
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,420
The United Kingdom played no role in these

1212
00:47:01,420 --> 00:47:01,880
strikes.

1213
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,440
But we have...

1214
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,940
Why would you say it like that?

1215
00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:06,540
I mean, why is he saying, we played

1216
00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:07,040
no role?

1217
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:08,820
We had nothing to do with any of

1218
00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:09,100
that?

1219
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,960
Is that so that their new buddies in

1220
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,100
China don't get mad?

1221
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:14,580
No, it's their domestic audience.

1222
00:47:14,740 --> 00:47:16,500
They have so many Muslims in the country.

1223
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:17,180
Ah, of course.

1224
00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:18,080
Of course.

1225
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:18,540
Yes.

1226
00:47:19,220 --> 00:47:21,780
I want to set out our response.

1227
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,760
The United Kingdom played no role in these

1228
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,220
strikes.

1229
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,140
But we have long been clear the regime

1230
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:32,820
in Iran is utterly abhorrent.

1231
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,100
They have murdered thousands of their own people,

1232
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:40,800
brutally crushed dissent, and sought to destabilise the

1233
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,160
region.

1234
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,700
Even in the United Kingdom, the Iranian regime

1235
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:49,220
poses a direct threat to dissidents and to

1236
00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:50,300
the Jewish community.

1237
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,800
Over the last year alone, they have backed

1238
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,920
more than 20 potentially lethal attacks on UK

1239
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,400
soil.

1240
00:47:58,740 --> 00:47:59,820
I didn't know that.

1241
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,480
20?

1242
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,040
I didn't either.

1243
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,360
20?

1244
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,180
That's a lot.

1245
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,280
It is clear they must never be allowed

1246
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,280
to develop a nuclear weapon.

1247
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,780
That remains the primary aim of the United

1248
00:48:11,780 --> 00:48:15,900
Kingdom and our allies, including the US.

1249
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:17,280
Go sit down, Keir.

1250
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:18,740
You're not a part of this game.

1251
00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:19,580
Obviously.

1252
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,320
He's left out.

1253
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,980
Everybody on the M5M this morning, all the

1254
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:27,000
questions are all the same.

1255
00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:27,680
What's the goal?

1256
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:28,340
What's the point?

1257
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:29,040
What's the purpose?

1258
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,700
What's the goal?

1259
00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:31,560
How is the president and his team talking

1260
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,060
about the goals of this war right now?

1261
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:35,980
The president does claim that he has several

1262
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:38,580
off-ramps and a beautiful plan, but it's

1263
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:40,840
still not clear what that plan is.

1264
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:42,620
He says he could end this in a

1265
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:44,780
couple of weeks or end it in just

1266
00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:47,240
a few days, saying, quote, until the Iranians

1267
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,000
see you again in a few years if

1268
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,220
you start rebuilding your nuclear program.

1269
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,100
What is clear, his goal here is regime

1270
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:57,020
change, but he still hasn't articulated exactly what

1271
00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:57,780
that looks like.

1272
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,120
There are still big, very fundamental questions left

1273
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,900
unanswered.

1274
00:49:01,940 --> 00:49:04,100
Who does the president think should lead Iran?

1275
00:49:04,220 --> 00:49:06,600
What role is the Trump administration and the

1276
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,300
US military going to play going forward?

1277
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Trump promised no new wars.

1278
00:49:11,940 --> 00:49:14,200
He vowed not to drag the US into

1279
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,780
more foreign conflicts, and yet that is now

1280
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:19,440
exactly what he is doing, and he still

1281
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,660
has not fully explained to the American people

1282
00:49:21,660 --> 00:49:23,400
why this is necessary now.

1283
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:25,200
What was the imminent threat?

1284
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,540
Why did he change his thinking now?

1285
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,440
Now, the administration is going to brief members

1286
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,040
of Congress later this week, but the president

1287
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600
now, after the fact, has to make the

1288
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,840
case for this war to the American people,

1289
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:39,720
as he now warns that American lives may

1290
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:40,180
be lost.

1291
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:42,100
He put out that video overnight Friday.

1292
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:44,460
Any plans to address the nation over the

1293
00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:45,300
weekend or early in the week?

1294
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,020
George, it certainly seems hard to imagine that

1295
00:49:48,020 --> 00:49:50,560
the president won't come out and speak more

1296
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,360
about this, but right now, this morning, he

1297
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,420
remains down in Mar-a-Lago at his

1298
00:49:54,420 --> 00:49:56,640
resort in Florida with members of his national

1299
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,040
security team, where he has been monitoring all

1300
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,180
of this unfold and play out.

1301
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:03,100
He will be back here at the White

1302
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:04,840
House later this evening, but I am sure

1303
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,440
that we will certainly be hearing from him

1304
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,540
again soon, George.

1305
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,420
All right, that's Mary Bruce.

1306
00:50:09,820 --> 00:50:10,940
She's just breathless.

1307
00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:14,740
Hey, this is exciting for these people.

1308
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:17,180
They get to do something again.

1309
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:22,300
Now, then there's the, well, aren't we at

1310
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:24,400
risk here at home because of this?

1311
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,780
Because the tentacles of Iran are far-reaching.

1312
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Pierre Thomas.

1313
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,060
Pierre, officials on edge over possible threats to

1314
00:50:31,060 --> 00:50:31,440
the homeland.

1315
00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:34,940
George, the US military campaign adds to perhaps

1316
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:37,780
the most dangerous threat environment since 9-11.

1317
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:40,220
History suggests there's reason for concern.

1318
00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:43,340
US officials in recent years have identified a

1319
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:46,320
number of Iran-inspired plots, including an alleged

1320
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,400
plan to kill President Trump.

1321
00:50:47,420 --> 00:50:49,660
Did he say Iran-inspired plots?

1322
00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:51,680
That's interesting.

1323
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,640
That's a little different than Iranian plots, Iran

1324
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,800
-inspired plots.

1325
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,260
US officials in recent years have identified a

1326
00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:02,200
number of Iran-inspired plots, including an alleged

1327
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,080
plan to kill President Trump.

1328
00:51:03,340 --> 00:51:04,740
That's a screw-up.

1329
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,280
Well, it's in the script.

1330
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,140
Yeah, I think somebody, whoever wrote that for

1331
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:12,240
him, I'd say somebody wrote it for him.

1332
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:13,160
These are newsreaders.

1333
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,320
That's a screw-up.

1334
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,380
But they pulled the ISIS script and just

1335
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:18,640
scratched out ISIS.

1336
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,400
That's exactly right.

1337
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,220
You nailed it.

1338
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,460
US officials in recent years have identified a

1339
00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:28,420
number of Iran-inspired plots, including an alleged

1340
00:51:28,420 --> 00:51:30,480
plan to kill President Trump, as well as

1341
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080
others that have targeted journalists and dissidents living

1342
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,500
here who oppose the regime.

1343
00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:36,940
This morning, there's evidence that US law enforcement

1344
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:40,540
is taking this threat seriously, of operatives from

1345
00:51:40,540 --> 00:51:42,440
Iran and sympathizers as well.

1346
00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:46,420
The FBI has put all counterterrorism and counterintelligence

1347
00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:47,980
teams on high alert.

1348
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Sources tell me the FBI is planning to

1349
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,300
step up surveillance of suspected Iranian operatives, and

1350
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:55,800
the Secret Service is increasing security of President

1351
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,600
Trump, Vice President Vance, and all the living

1352
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,460
former presidents.

1353
00:51:59,780 --> 00:52:02,740
In addition, Homeland Security officials yesterday issued a

1354
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:05,520
bulletin warning police that Iran and its proxies

1355
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,020
may target US infrastructure with denial-of-service

1356
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:09,800
cyber attacks.

1357
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,760
George, it's a very dangerous moment.

1358
00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:14,320
Denial-of-service attack?

1359
00:52:14,420 --> 00:52:16,160
All you need is just CloudFlare to go

1360
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,020
down in its worst.

1361
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,640
That's all it takes.

1362
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:19,060
All right.

1363
00:52:19,180 --> 00:52:21,000
Just go over here to San Francisco to

1364
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,240
the CloudFlare offices, and you could bring down

1365
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,040
the whole Internet.

1366
00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:27,940
So, last night, there was a shooting in

1367
00:52:27,940 --> 00:52:31,200
Austin, and it was near a bar that

1368
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,680
some friends of ours have ownership in, and

1369
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,740
everybody at the church this morning was saying,

1370
00:52:35,860 --> 00:52:36,900
oh, yeah, this is it.

1371
00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:37,720
This is what's happening.

1372
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,760
It's because of Iran.

1373
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,440
We go now to Texas Republican Senator Ted

1374
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,100
Cruz, who joins us from Austin.

1375
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:44,420
Good morning to you, Senator.

1376
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,980
I'm glad we got your audio working.

1377
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,460
You are from Houston, I believe, this morning.

1378
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:50,260
I am.

1379
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,900
Good morning, Margaret.

1380
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:51,460
Good morning.

1381
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:52,960
I wanted to ask you about Austin, though,

1382
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,880
because there are reports of three people dead,

1383
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,240
more than a dozen injured following a mass

1384
00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:59,720
shooting in that city.

1385
00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:02,840
The FBI is saying this morning that their

1386
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,120
joint terrorism task force has joined the investigation.

1387
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,680
Is there any nexus to terrorism or anything

1388
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,080
that is going on in regard to the

1389
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,540
worldwide caution at this moment?

1390
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,800
We don't know for sure.

1391
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,520
There are some early reports that this shooting

1392
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,520
may be connected to terrorism, but we need

1393
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,080
to follow the evidence and see, in particular,

1394
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:29,420
what motivated the shooting.

1395
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:31,220
We are certainly, Heidi and I, are praying

1396
00:53:31,220 --> 00:53:33,720
for those who were wounded and the families

1397
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:35,000
of those who were killed.

1398
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,940
But at this point, we don't know what

1399
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:39,420
the evidence will show in terms of whether

1400
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:40,580
this was an act of terrorism.

1401
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,980
I don't think so.

1402
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:43,760
This is on 6th Street, which has been

1403
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,400
just a gigantic mess for years.

1404
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,880
I mean, people who come to Austin don't

1405
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,700
even want to go to Joe's Club anymore,

1406
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,680
which is on 6th Street, which is where

1407
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,900
the old Paramount Theater was.

1408
00:53:54,980 --> 00:53:56,100
It's a mess.

1409
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,980
And so it doesn't surprise me that 14

1410
00:53:59,980 --> 00:54:01,740
people got shot, several who died.

1411
00:54:02,060 --> 00:54:03,980
But I think this is Ted Cruz's beat

1412
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:07,820
in this operation.

1413
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:09,320
Trump has said, hey, man, you just stay

1414
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:09,800
on this.

1415
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,060
You just talk about that stuff.

1416
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,260
Talk about my life.

1417
00:54:12,540 --> 00:54:15,540
Senator, just looking at the global environment right

1418
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:19,160
now, CENTCOM announced three Americans were killed and

1419
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,620
five seriously wounded in this operation.

1420
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,240
President Trump and Vice President Vance campaigned on

1421
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,840
not getting America involved in new wars.

1422
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,180
What do you say to Americans this morning

1423
00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:33,600
who are asking why we are in this

1424
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,480
conflict now?

1425
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,640
President Trump's decision to launch this decisive action

1426
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,720
against Iran is the single most important decision

1427
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:43,480
of his presidency.

1428
00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:46,400
I think he laid out powerfully and effectively

1429
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,820
why he is taking this action.

1430
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,160
He is taking this action because the government

1431
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,300
of Iran is a profound and malign influence.

1432
00:54:55,780 --> 00:54:58,480
They have been the leading state sponsor of

1433
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,420
terrorism for 47 years.

1434
00:55:01,860 --> 00:55:05,000
They have over that time killed nearly 1

1435
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,740
,000 Americans.

1436
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,580
They provide more than 90% of the

1437
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:13,280
funding for Hamas.

1438
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,280
They provide more than 90% of the

1439
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,260
funding for Hezbollah.

1440
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:22,440
The Iranian Ayatollah was until yesterday actively trying

1441
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,340
to murder the President of the United States,

1442
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:24,900
Donald J.

1443
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:25,240
Trump.

1444
00:55:25,420 --> 00:55:25,960
There you go.

1445
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,800
That's Cruz's bit.

1446
00:55:28,060 --> 00:55:28,740
That's his part.

1447
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,800
Clearly just prewritten statements and script.

1448
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,060
Unimpressive.

1449
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:36,640
That sounds very, very scripted.

1450
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,220
Whenever someone says this decisive action, that's written.

1451
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:43,360
No one talks like that.

1452
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,320
John, what do you think of this decisive

1453
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,440
action by the President?

1454
00:55:47,140 --> 00:55:47,700
Yeah.

1455
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:50,540
Yeah, it's scripted for him.

1456
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,700
He's doing what he has to do, which

1457
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:54,200
is fine.

1458
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:56,380
Let's go back to the BBC.

1459
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,220
Okay.

1460
00:55:58,300 --> 00:56:00,340
They brought in one of our Senators or

1461
00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:03,740
Congressmen, Seth Moulton, to talk about this.

1462
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,600
The one thing that's obvious when you listen

1463
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,240
to it, no matter who's talking about who,

1464
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,500
this Khomeini guy, I think everybody in the

1465
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:13,480
Middle East hated him.

1466
00:56:13,580 --> 00:56:16,080
I think everybody in the Democrat Party, everybody

1467
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,320
hated this guy.

1468
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:19,680
And I think half the Iranians did too,

1469
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,060
or more of them.

1470
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,200
Because this guy, you can't not talk about

1471
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,460
this.

1472
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,060
This is an anti-Trump guy brought on

1473
00:56:28,060 --> 00:56:30,320
the BBC to moan and groan about Trump.

1474
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,540
But he still can't say anything.

1475
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,880
Except for a very few outliers like this

1476
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,100
video podcaster, Jackson What the hell is his

1477
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:43,780
last name?

1478
00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:44,480
Jackson?

1479
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,140
I don't know.

1480
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,200
A video podcaster named Jackson?

1481
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:47,760
Jackson Hinkle.

1482
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:51,180
Jackson Hinkle has 3.6 million followers on

1483
00:56:51,180 --> 00:56:54,100
Twitter or X.

1484
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:57,600
That gives him credibility.

1485
00:56:58,140 --> 00:56:59,940
Well, I think they're fake numbers.

1486
00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:06,920
He posts pictures of Khomeini with a hero,

1487
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:09,220
this man didn't deserve to get shot.

1488
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,160
He's like an American communist.

1489
00:57:13,380 --> 00:57:15,420
He's a communist and he keeps reposting American

1490
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:16,480
Communist Party stuff.

1491
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:19,100
He's the one who had McGovern on the

1492
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,500
show yesterday.

1493
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,540
And who went on, who seems to be

1494
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:25,540
also in the same camp, which I'm kind

1495
00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:26,500
of surprised by.

1496
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,380
Ray McGovern, ex-CIA.

1497
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,460
Except for that little crowd who thinks that

1498
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:38,000
Khomeini was a great guy, I don't know

1499
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:38,980
how you could get there.

1500
00:57:38,980 --> 00:57:41,280
Most people reflected what you're going to hear

1501
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,660
in this BBC Seth Moulton clip number one.

1502
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,240
There was plenty of debate here in the

1503
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,980
U.S. as well.

1504
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,180
Let's speak about that with Congressman Seth Moulton,

1505
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,780
a Democrat from Massachusetts.

1506
00:57:50,020 --> 00:57:51,460
He's on the Armed Services Committee.

1507
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,300
Congressman, it's great to have you back with

1508
00:57:53,300 --> 00:57:54,320
us on BBC News.

1509
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,100
I want to start with getting your reaction

1510
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,280
to what President Trump put onto social.

1511
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
He said Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, is

1512
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,180
dead.

1513
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:02,100
I'm glad he's dead.

1514
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,540
I mean, he's an evil person who's killed

1515
00:58:04,540 --> 00:58:07,200
thousands of his own people and chanted death

1516
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,940
to America for decades.

1517
00:58:09,260 --> 00:58:10,280
So I'm glad he's dead.

1518
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,440
But the question before us right now in

1519
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,600
the United States of America is should we

1520
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,520
be risking lives for this?

1521
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,440
Young American lives who we're putting on the

1522
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,780
line without any Democratic decision from Congress about

1523
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:24,100
whether this is the right thing to do.

1524
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,680
What information have you received in the House

1525
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Armed Services Committee, for example, about the justification

1526
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,420
to this point of why President Trump has

1527
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:33,380
taken this line with Iran?

1528
00:58:34,180 --> 00:58:34,520
Nothing.

1529
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:36,300
Nothing.

1530
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:38,400
And you're expecting, we know the Gang of

1531
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,960
Eight, of course, was briefed.

1532
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,380
The Gang of Eight, the eight members of

1533
00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:43,400
Congress who were briefed on classified intelligence.

1534
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,900
But you haven't heard any further information from

1535
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,680
the White House, from the Secretary of State

1536
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,660
on why this attack would have taken place?

1537
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:52,220
Literally nothing.

1538
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,800
I mean, I've seen what you've seen on

1539
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,180
the news.

1540
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:57,320
But Trump has not come to Congress at

1541
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:57,520
all.

1542
00:58:57,580 --> 00:58:59,160
The administration has not briefed us.

1543
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:00,960
The Gang of Eight briefing was just late

1544
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,560
last night to say this is about to

1545
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:02,920
happen.

1546
00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:05,040
That's the kind of briefing that should happen

1547
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,360
in anticipation of a limited strike against an

1548
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,060
imminent threat.

1549
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:11,180
This is obviously not a limited strike.

1550
00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:12,840
The President's not even trying to make that

1551
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,140
case, as he did with Venezuela.

1552
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,160
And he's given us no evidence that there

1553
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,180
was an imminent threat.

1554
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,580
Now, I've got to just stop the Congressman

1555
00:59:21,580 --> 00:59:24,640
here because he's making it sound like, well,

1556
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:26,720
it's a limited threat, you can do this,

1557
00:59:26,740 --> 00:59:28,640
but not if it's, you know, something like

1558
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:28,980
this.

1559
00:59:29,020 --> 00:59:31,680
And you didn't inform us, but you talked

1560
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,480
to the Gang of Eight.

1561
00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:34,440
That's literally informing Congress.

1562
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,080
So the rules of the War Powers Act,

1563
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,080
and I'm not saying that I agree with

1564
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:40,200
it.

1565
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,700
I would prefer, well, only once have we

1566
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:46,160
declared war in my lifetime, and that was

1567
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,720
9-11.

1568
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,400
So the President must, I have it written

1569
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,420
down here, the President must consult with Congress

1570
00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:57,220
quote, in every possible instance before introducing U

1571
00:59:57,220 --> 01:00:00,320
.S. forces into hostilities or imminent hostilities.

1572
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,580
That was done with the Gang of Eight.

1573
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,100
The 48 hour reporting period, the forces are

1574
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,600
deployed without a formal declaration of war.

1575
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:10,820
The President must submit a report to Congress

1576
01:00:10,820 --> 01:00:13,820
within 48 hours of explaining the justification, authority,

1577
01:00:13,940 --> 01:00:15,860
and estimated scope and duration of the deployment.

1578
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,780
I think he posted that on X, so

1579
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,760
that's probably on Truth Social, I'm sorry.

1580
01:00:22,420 --> 01:00:24,740
So I'm sure that will take place, but

1581
01:00:24,740 --> 01:00:26,140
the big thing here is the 60 day

1582
01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:26,520
clock.

1583
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,400
U.S. forces must be withdrawn within 60

1584
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,760
days unless Congress either declares war, grants specific

1585
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,500
authorization for the use of military force, the

1586
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:40,840
so-called AUMF, or extends the deadline, and

1587
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,880
the President can still extend by 30 days

1588
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,940
for a withdrawal period, bringing the total time

1589
01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:47,760
to 90 days.

1590
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,120
We never declared war on 9-11.

1591
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,300
Oh, we didn't?

1592
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:52,260
No.

1593
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,200
How about that?

1594
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,060
The last formal declaration of war by the

1595
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:57,220
United States Congress occurred in June 1942.

1596
01:00:57,900 --> 01:00:58,000
Really?

1597
01:00:58,060 --> 01:00:58,620
We didn't do...

1598
01:00:58,620 --> 01:00:59,600
I thought we did that on 9-11.

1599
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,100
We never declared war against Vietnam.

1600
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,120
Well, no, I knew that.

1601
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,360
I thought we did have a Congressional approval

1602
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,500
for after 9-11.

1603
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,760
Not a declaration of war.

1604
01:01:12,900 --> 01:01:13,420
Hmm, okay.

1605
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,440
I stand corrected.

1606
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,800
So, Mouton, Mouton, whatever his name is, Mutton,

1607
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,600
he's kind of stretching it by saying, you

1608
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:23,700
know...

1609
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:25,320
Well, in fact, the clip, too, kind of

1610
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,600
brings up the BBC does a good job

1611
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,420
of kind of nailing him on this, and

1612
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:34,520
then which becomes an Ask Adam.

1613
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,220
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, oh

1614
01:01:37,220 --> 01:01:38,480
no, hold on a second.

1615
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,820
An interstitial Ask Adam.

1616
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,300
Hold on.

1617
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,060
Ask Adam.

1618
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Ask Adam.

1619
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,940
Yeah, all right, an Ask Adam.

1620
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:46,500
All right.

1621
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,100
So this is my new technique.

1622
01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:49,700
I like it, I like it.

1623
01:01:49,700 --> 01:01:51,940
And so we're going to listen to the

1624
01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:52,240
clip, too.

1625
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,300
Well, do it, do it.

1626
01:01:53,460 --> 01:01:54,700
The ask will come afterwards?

1627
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:55,800
Yes, yes.

1628
01:01:55,940 --> 01:01:56,120
Okay.

1629
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,880
Can I ask you about the push for

1630
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,060
a War Powers Resolution in Congress?

1631
01:02:00,460 --> 01:02:02,300
There were some of your fellow members of

1632
01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:04,300
Congress on the Democratic side of the aisle

1633
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:06,280
who support these strikes, and I want to

1634
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,960
ask you about what one of your Republican

1635
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,780
congressmen and colleagues, Mike Lawler, wrote on social

1636
01:02:11,780 --> 01:02:12,140
media.

1637
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:14,740
He said, the President must notify Congress within

1638
01:02:14,740 --> 01:02:16,640
48 hours of deploying troops.

1639
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,240
The President must then withdraw troops within 60

1640
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,300
to 90 days unless Congress declares war.

1641
01:02:21,460 --> 01:02:25,440
In this instance, Congress was briefed in advance.

1642
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:27,220
And he goes on to say, the President

1643
01:02:27,220 --> 01:02:28,760
has the authority to act.

1644
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,020
The notion that the strike is illegal or

1645
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:33,480
that the President needed Congress' authority is wrong.

1646
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,360
Biden and Obama conducted numerous strikes in numerous

1647
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,400
countries without Congress and none of the people,

1648
01:02:38,660 --> 01:02:41,500
quote, screaming now seem to have any objections.

1649
01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:42,960
What's your response to that?

1650
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,160
All right, what's your response to that?

1651
01:02:46,340 --> 01:02:46,880
What is the question?

1652
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,620
And then the question is, what does Moulton

1653
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:53,300
say?

1654
01:02:53,820 --> 01:02:55,820
Now, this is a very straightforward thing, is

1655
01:02:55,820 --> 01:02:57,220
that this happened before.

1656
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,540
Biden did it.

1657
01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:59,900
Obama did it.

1658
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,120
Clinton, as you pointed out earlier in the

1659
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:02,820
show, did it.

1660
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:06,060
They don't mention Libya, which is the best

1661
01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:06,480
example.

1662
01:03:06,580 --> 01:03:07,740
They weren't threatening us.

1663
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,260
That was Obama too.

1664
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,740
And that was Obama.

1665
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,420
And they went on and on and on.

1666
01:03:12,860 --> 01:03:15,200
And so he, now what kind of answer

1667
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,780
will he give as a counter argument, that

1668
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:24,060
solid counter argument to what the Republicans said?

1669
01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:39,120
This is a very difficult one because Seth

1670
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:44,660
hates Trump but also doesn't like I think

1671
01:03:44,660 --> 01:03:48,520
he's going to say that the American public

1672
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:54,640
deserves this or hmm wow I think I'm

1673
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:55,900
really stumped on this one.

1674
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,800
How can you counter this?

1675
01:03:58,020 --> 01:04:01,080
What crazy notion could this guy come up

1676
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,860
with other than, well, maybe that's it.

1677
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,620
But Trump is a mad man.

1678
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,520
That would have to be my answer.

1679
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,020
But Trump is a mad man.

1680
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:10,900
That's not it.

1681
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:11,700
And here we go.

1682
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,000
What's your response to that?

1683
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,260
First of all, Mike Lawler knows nothing about

1684
01:04:15,260 --> 01:04:15,580
war.

1685
01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:19,200
He went through this generation without fighting, without

1686
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,220
putting on the uniform, without being on the

1687
01:04:21,220 --> 01:04:23,220
ground in the Middle East like those of

1688
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:25,480
us who are very concerned about these operations

1689
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:25,760
have.

1690
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:30,680
So in other words, he doesn't address the

1691
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,560
argument at all.

1692
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,800
That's going to be the answer to most

1693
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,420
of this, by the way.

1694
01:04:35,420 --> 01:04:37,300
He doesn't address it at all.

1695
01:04:37,300 --> 01:04:39,520
He just skirts it.

1696
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,980
What would he know?

1697
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,580
What does he know about war?

1698
01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:47,520
And by the way, there's one other little

1699
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,920
clip I want to play, which is kind

1700
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,520
of in relation to this, which is a

1701
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,680
contradiction clip from Al Jazeera.

1702
01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:54,460
This Iran war contradiction.

1703
01:04:55,660 --> 01:04:57,500
Get it over now to the White House.

1704
01:04:57,620 --> 01:04:59,040
Kimberly Halkett is there for us.

1705
01:04:59,380 --> 01:05:01,940
Kimberly, it seems as though the U.S.

1706
01:05:01,940 --> 01:05:03,180
is in this for the long haul.

1707
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:06,600
Yes, that is consistent with statements that have

1708
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,980
been made, albeit vague, from the U.S.

1709
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,060
president, as well as it is widely being

1710
01:05:12,060 --> 01:05:15,400
reported that Operation Epic Fury, as this has

1711
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,380
been dubbed, is now into what is expected

1712
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:23,000
to be a series of escalating strikes that

1713
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,500
will last one- to two-day periods,

1714
01:05:25,940 --> 01:05:29,000
followed by pauses to assess the damage.

1715
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,580
In terms of diplomatic talks, that is still

1716
01:05:32,580 --> 01:05:36,220
a major question because, of course, most were

1717
01:05:36,220 --> 01:05:38,560
looking ahead to next week when it was

1718
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,700
expected that talks and discussions to limit Iran's

1719
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:43,660
nuclear program would resume.

1720
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,480
There's been no statement from the White House

1721
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,560
about whether or not the United States intends

1722
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,340
to do that.

1723
01:05:50,660 --> 01:05:52,340
In fact, we haven't heard from the U

1724
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:55,200
.S. president beyond his eight-minute video that

1725
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,220
he has put out.

1726
01:05:56,380 --> 01:05:58,180
The U.S. president is not even at

1727
01:05:58,180 --> 01:05:58,800
the White House.

1728
01:05:58,860 --> 01:06:00,380
In fact, he's in the U.S. state

1729
01:06:00,380 --> 01:06:02,380
of Florida at his residence in Mar-a

1730
01:06:02,380 --> 01:06:05,240
-Lago, where the White House press secretary says

1731
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,800
that he is monitoring these events alongside members

1732
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,560
of his national security team, and will continue

1733
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,560
to do so throughout the day.

1734
01:06:13,780 --> 01:06:16,240
We also know that he spoke with the

1735
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,560
Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

1736
01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:21,400
And when it comes to the president's national

1737
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,040
security team, we know that the Secretary of

1738
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,940
State National Security Advisor, Marco Rubio, has also

1739
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:29,620
been in consultation with members of Congress, a

1740
01:06:29,620 --> 01:06:31,520
so-called Gang of Eight, made up of

1741
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Democratic and Republican leadership.

1742
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,340
They were notified as these strikes were initiated,

1743
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,500
and the Department of War also contacted members

1744
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:44,140
of the House and Senate Armed Services Committee

1745
01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:46,580
to let them know that the plan they

1746
01:06:46,580 --> 01:06:48,600
had been briefed on earlier in the week

1747
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,180
was now in full effect.

1748
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,140
They talked to the House Armed Services Committee.

1749
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,120
Moulton said, we didn't hear nothing.

1750
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,020
He wasn't at the meeting.

1751
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,100
The guy, we didn't hear nothing.

1752
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,460
I didn't hear nothing.

1753
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,220
I didn't hear nothing.

1754
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:05,500
Yeah.

1755
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:06,460
Yeah.

1756
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,060
Typical.

1757
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,500
So this is like, so we get a

1758
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:12,740
lot of this smoke and mirrors crap.

1759
01:07:13,420 --> 01:07:15,340
And then blame the guy.

1760
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,780
You can't say anything.

1761
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:19,480
You can't make these comments because you didn't

1762
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,440
wear the uniform.

1763
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:21,120
Okay.

1764
01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:21,740
Yeah.

1765
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,180
I probably could have guessed that one.

1766
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:25,560
Bone spur.

1767
01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:28,000
Yeah.

1768
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:30,860
I'm just looking at the quad screen.

1769
01:07:30,980 --> 01:07:32,880
So the president now posting on Truth Social

1770
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,520
that we have sunk nine of their Navy

1771
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,180
ships.

1772
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,220
So that means the Strait of Hormuz will

1773
01:07:39,220 --> 01:07:40,440
open up again pretty soon.

1774
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,620
I think your thesis is probably right.

1775
01:07:43,620 --> 01:07:44,720
Choose your guy.

1776
01:07:44,860 --> 01:07:45,640
That's not the guy.

1777
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:47,900
That's not the guy.

1778
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:49,900
Just keep doing it.

1779
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:51,900
It's going to be one of these guys

1780
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:52,340
eventually.

1781
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,740
Do you want to hear some Lindsey Graham

1782
01:07:53,740 --> 01:07:53,980
stuff?

1783
01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:55,940
Just don't accidentally kill your guy.

1784
01:07:56,300 --> 01:07:56,800
Hold on.

1785
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,440
Let's do Ro Khanna because I got Ro

1786
01:07:59,440 --> 01:07:59,800
Khanna.

1787
01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:01,180
Oh, that guy.

1788
01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:04,040
Him and Massey teamed up.

1789
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:05,540
What a group.

1790
01:08:05,980 --> 01:08:08,780
The funny thing is Thomas Massey, who I've

1791
01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:13,020
had mixed feelings about, is like Ro Khanna

1792
01:08:13,020 --> 01:08:15,420
is part of the old squad.

1793
01:08:16,819 --> 01:08:20,560
He's a borderline socialist and Massey has to

1794
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,100
be one too to be buddies with this

1795
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:23,800
character.

1796
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,979
Well, they're doing the no war declaration along

1797
01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:29,920
with Rand Paul, which is what the Pauls

1798
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:30,819
have always done that.

1799
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,760
That's traditional.

1800
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:35,620
It's like a tradition.

1801
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,420
Rand Paul doesn't bother me.

1802
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,560
It's like an American tradition.

1803
01:08:42,859 --> 01:08:46,240
Let's go with, I'd call him Ro Khanna,

1804
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:48,020
but it's Ro Khanna.

1805
01:08:48,140 --> 01:08:49,800
Here he is with Manhans Welker.

1806
01:08:50,060 --> 01:08:51,819
Welcome back and joining me now is Democratic

1807
01:08:51,819 --> 01:08:53,779
Congressman Ro Khanna of California.

1808
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,240
Congressman Khanna, welcome back to Meet the Press.

1809
01:08:57,060 --> 01:08:58,580
Thank you for having me on today.

1810
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,819
Thank you so much for being here.

1811
01:09:00,939 --> 01:09:03,020
Let me start off with Wait, wait.

1812
01:09:03,380 --> 01:09:05,300
Did she say Congressman Khanna?

1813
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,840
His name's Ro Khanna.

1814
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,040
That's his last name.

1815
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:09,100
Let's listen.

1816
01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:11,779
Thank you for having me on.

1817
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:12,279
Hold on.

1818
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:14,399
Here we go.

1819
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:16,880
Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna of California.

1820
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:19,279
Congressman Khanna, welcome back to Meet the Press.

1821
01:09:19,380 --> 01:09:20,160
She said Khanna.

1822
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,020
His name is not Ro.

1823
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,359
It's his first name and Khanna's his last

1824
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:28,680
name.

1825
01:09:28,779 --> 01:09:30,300
His last name is Ro Khanna.

1826
01:09:30,540 --> 01:09:33,740
Isn't Ro, isn't that erectile dysfunction drugs?

1827
01:09:34,819 --> 01:09:35,340
Exactly.

1828
01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:38,680
Khanna.

1829
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,740
Mr. Ro, how you doing, Mr. Ro?

1830
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:41,600
Good to see you.

1831
01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:43,279
How's it working down there?

1832
01:09:43,460 --> 01:09:45,180
Welcome back and joining me now is Democratic

1833
01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:47,000
Congressman Ro Khanna of California.

1834
01:09:48,260 --> 01:09:50,380
Now that she says it, I have to

1835
01:09:50,380 --> 01:09:50,960
go look it up.

1836
01:09:51,260 --> 01:09:53,620
Maybe his name is Ro.

1837
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,340
I think his name is Ro Khanna.

1838
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,560
Yes, his name is Ro Khanna.

1839
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,420
He was born Ro.

1840
01:09:58,600 --> 01:09:59,980
You are racist, man.

1841
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,680
That's a fine Indian name.

1842
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:02,940
Khanna?

1843
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:03,740
Khanna.

1844
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,040
Yeah, Khanna.

1845
01:10:05,260 --> 01:10:05,940
Ro Khanna.

1846
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:06,880
Ro Khanna.

1847
01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:08,120
Yeah, okay.

1848
01:10:08,620 --> 01:10:10,720
I wish I was one lone name.

1849
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,400
You wasted our name.

1850
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,160
His full name is Roheet.

1851
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:16,740
Roheet Khanna.

1852
01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:18,340
Roheet.

1853
01:10:18,340 --> 01:10:19,620
Roheet Khanna, yeah.

1854
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:20,600
So we just call him Ro.

1855
01:10:20,820 --> 01:10:23,740
How this guy ever got into Congress?

1856
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,860
He represents Silicon Valley.

1857
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,280
There you go.

1858
01:10:27,940 --> 01:10:29,280
Indian, Silicon Valley.

1859
01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:30,020
More questions?

1860
01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:31,700
No, that's the only reason he's getting in

1861
01:10:31,700 --> 01:10:33,720
because the Indians just oh, he's one of

1862
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:33,920
us.

1863
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:34,700
Let's vote for him.

1864
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,020
This is like the women who vote for

1865
01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:36,360
women.

1866
01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:37,380
Yes, correct.

1867
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,500
Welcome back and joining me now is Democratic

1868
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:41,400
Congressman Ro Khanna of California.

1869
01:10:41,860 --> 01:10:43,840
Congressman Khanna, welcome back to Meet the Press.

1870
01:10:44,700 --> 01:10:46,200
Thank you for having me on today.

1871
01:10:46,620 --> 01:10:48,440
Thank you so much for being here.

1872
01:10:48,620 --> 01:10:50,460
Enough with the platitudes.

1873
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,740
Start off with this critical question.

1874
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,480
You heard what Senator Lindsey Graham had to

1875
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:55,660
say.

1876
01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:57,320
I'm playing him out of order now.

1877
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,120
The world is in fact safer now that

1878
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,400
the Supreme Leader is gone.

1879
01:11:00,460 --> 01:11:02,880
You heard Senator Kelly agree with that part

1880
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,920
of his assessment.

1881
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,860
Do you agree?

1882
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,720
Senator Graham now has become the face of

1883
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,540
Republican foreign policy.

1884
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,860
He's been consistent, but he's been consistently wrong.

1885
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:16,400
Let me say this.

1886
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:19,280
Khamenei was a brutal dictator, but Americans are

1887
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,820
not safer today.

1888
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:24,120
Look, Senator Graham cheerled us into the Iraq

1889
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:24,540
war.

1890
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,720
He cheerled us into the effort with Libya

1891
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,680
and Trump ran against him in 2016.

1892
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:36,040
He said regime change wars are absolute failures.

1893
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,440
That has escaped Donald Trump.

1894
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,780
Now you have a situation in Iran where

1895
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:44,760
the IRGC is still in power.

1896
01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:46,940
The Assembly of Experts are going to pick

1897
01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:47,580
the new leader.

1898
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,060
By the way, they were picking the new

1899
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:51,000
leader before we killed Ayatollah.

1900
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,100
The Ayatollah was 86.

1901
01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:53,820
The question is, is the country going to

1902
01:11:53,820 --> 01:11:55,260
descend in civil war?

1903
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,040
Are billions of our dollars going to be

1904
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:57,600
spent there?

1905
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,100
Are our American troops going to be at

1906
01:11:59,100 --> 01:11:59,420
risk?

1907
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,300
This is a different tact that he's taking

1908
01:12:02,300 --> 01:12:06,340
because the Democrats also hated this guy, but

1909
01:12:06,340 --> 01:12:07,440
this is all wrong.

1910
01:12:07,780 --> 01:12:09,020
It's futile.

1911
01:12:09,140 --> 01:12:09,780
It's no good.

1912
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:12,040
Take it to the War Powers Resolution, please,

1913
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:12,460
Kirsten.

1914
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,860
Senator Graham arguing that the IRGC is at

1915
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:19,260
war with the U.S. Democratic leaders.

1916
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:23,260
Obviously, you are co-sponsoring a bill with

1917
01:12:23,260 --> 01:12:26,340
Congressman Massey to force a vote on the

1918
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:27,880
War Powers Resolution.

1919
01:12:28,460 --> 01:12:31,640
Congressman, do you think you have enough votes

1920
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:32,780
for this to pass?

1921
01:12:35,010 --> 01:12:37,110
It's going to be very close, but I

1922
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:38,490
believe we will have every Democrat.

1923
01:12:38,650 --> 01:12:39,930
I can't believe that there's going to be

1924
01:12:39,930 --> 01:12:42,290
a Democrat who wants to vote for another

1925
01:12:42,290 --> 01:12:43,370
war in the Middle East.

1926
01:12:43,530 --> 01:12:45,830
And then you have not just Congressman Massey,

1927
01:12:45,930 --> 01:12:48,850
you have Congressman Davidson, Congressman Biggs.

1928
01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:50,150
There are a number of people on the

1929
01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:53,210
Republican side who agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

1930
01:12:53,690 --> 01:12:55,770
You know, Donald Trump said that the Iraq

1931
01:12:55,770 --> 01:12:56,650
War was a disaster.

1932
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:57,490
Hold on a second.

1933
01:12:58,530 --> 01:13:01,970
The Democrats have always considered her a crackpot

1934
01:13:01,970 --> 01:13:02,730
lunatic.

1935
01:13:03,330 --> 01:13:05,430
And they're always bitching and moaning about Marjorie

1936
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:08,650
Taylor Greene, Marjorie Taylor Greene because she's nuts.

1937
01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:11,050
And now, all of a sudden, because she

1938
01:13:11,050 --> 01:13:14,190
split and quit, split with Trump and quit

1939
01:13:14,190 --> 01:13:14,810
the job.

1940
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:16,750
She's the best.

1941
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:18,190
Give me a break.

1942
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:22,330
Congressman Massey, you have Congressman Davidson, Congressman Biggs.

1943
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:23,650
There are a number of people on the

1944
01:13:23,650 --> 01:13:26,690
Republican side who agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

1945
01:13:26,690 --> 01:13:29,250
You know, Donald Trump said that the Iraq

1946
01:13:29,250 --> 01:13:30,230
War was a disaster.

1947
01:13:30,350 --> 01:13:31,930
He said Libya was a disaster.

1948
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:34,690
He ran because a big part of the

1949
01:13:34,690 --> 01:13:36,990
MAGA base did not want another war in

1950
01:13:36,990 --> 01:13:37,370
the Middle East.

1951
01:13:37,550 --> 01:13:39,110
They rejected Lindsey Graham.

1952
01:13:39,550 --> 01:13:42,050
And yet, here we have Lindsey Graham being

1953
01:13:42,050 --> 01:13:45,170
the face of Republican foreign policy as is

1954
01:13:45,170 --> 01:13:46,630
evidenced by the fact that he was your

1955
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:47,370
lead guest.

1956
01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:49,610
I mean, I believe this is a betrayal.

1957
01:13:50,230 --> 01:13:50,330
Wait, stop.

1958
01:13:51,190 --> 01:13:54,470
Because Lindsey Graham was her lead guest, he's

1959
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:56,970
now the face of the Republican Party?

1960
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:57,750
Yes.

1961
01:13:58,370 --> 01:14:00,510
What kind of logic is this?

1962
01:14:01,050 --> 01:14:01,970
Roe was stronger.

1963
01:14:02,010 --> 01:14:04,710
In other words, the booker of her show

1964
01:14:04,710 --> 01:14:08,570
is really determining foreign policy if you look

1965
01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:10,450
at it objectively.

1966
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:12,810
The face of Republican foreign policy as is

1967
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:14,250
evidenced by the fact that he was your

1968
01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:15,010
lead guest.

1969
01:14:15,210 --> 01:14:17,490
I mean, I believe this is a betrayal

1970
01:14:17,490 --> 01:14:20,370
of a decent chunk of the MAGA base.

1971
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:23,130
Ah, see, you're trying to go for the

1972
01:14:23,130 --> 01:14:24,210
cleave it and leave it.

1973
01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:26,130
That's a good bit.

1974
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:27,850
That's a good bit.

1975
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:30,050
I give him points for that one.

1976
01:14:31,310 --> 01:14:37,750
Considering you're Christian Welker, you're Rohit Khanna, what

1977
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:42,330
is the next logical topic from this conversation

1978
01:14:42,330 --> 01:14:42,830
so far?

1979
01:14:44,830 --> 01:14:45,830
Oh, you're asking me?

1980
01:14:45,970 --> 01:14:46,190
Yes.

1981
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:47,050
Ask John.

1982
01:14:47,330 --> 01:14:49,290
The next logical ...

1983
01:14:49,290 --> 01:14:52,970
Well, the regime change was addressed, I think,

1984
01:14:56,010 --> 01:14:56,730
the midterms.

1985
01:14:56,990 --> 01:14:57,770
Let me talk to you about one of

1986
01:14:57,770 --> 01:15:00,570
the big headlines before the strikes against Iran.

1987
01:15:00,790 --> 01:15:01,370
Okay, you ready?

1988
01:15:01,470 --> 01:15:02,970
What was one of the big headlines before

1989
01:15:02,970 --> 01:15:04,170
the strikes against Iran?

1990
01:15:04,530 --> 01:15:06,170
I'll give you a secondary chance.

1991
01:15:07,050 --> 01:15:08,330
Oh, so I was wrong.

1992
01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:08,850
You were wrong.

1993
01:15:08,850 --> 01:15:11,930
Okay, so you're playing this a little differently

1994
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:12,510
than I would.

1995
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:13,870
Yeah, I don't have a jingle for you.

1996
01:15:15,610 --> 01:15:18,250
Which is I would have just do the

1997
01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:19,990
slam dunk and get it over with.

1998
01:15:20,090 --> 01:15:22,330
But no, no, you're more of a torture

1999
01:15:22,330 --> 01:15:22,650
type.

2000
01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:23,190
Yes, I am.

2001
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:23,530
Yes.

2002
01:15:23,630 --> 01:15:25,090
So you're trying to torture me.

2003
01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:25,610
Let's see.

2004
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:30,890
It would be negotiations that were something to

2005
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:34,690
do with the negotiations for the A-bomb,

2006
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:36,790
the nuke.

2007
01:15:37,710 --> 01:15:38,150
Wow.

2008
01:15:38,890 --> 01:15:42,490
The troll room is better than you are

2009
01:15:42,490 --> 01:15:43,130
at this game.

2010
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:43,930
Uh-oh.

2011
01:15:43,930 --> 01:15:45,110
They had it right away.

2012
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:49,330
Oh, no.

2013
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:55,010
How do you feel now?

2014
01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:57,570
Now I feel like crap.

2015
01:15:58,090 --> 01:16:00,630
It's obviously the Epstein files.

2016
01:16:01,010 --> 01:16:01,310
Of course.

2017
01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:26,130
Oh.

2018
01:16:26,170 --> 01:16:26,650
Who

2019
01:16:26,650 --> 01:16:37,150
cares

2020
01:16:37,150 --> 01:16:38,790
what the American people decide?

2021
01:16:38,890 --> 01:16:40,710
Is there criminality going on or what?

2022
01:16:46,010 --> 01:16:46,770
Do the same.

2023
01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:47,610
Answer the questions.

2024
01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:49,430
Howard Lutnick should do the same.

2025
01:16:49,790 --> 01:16:51,890
I'm working with a Republican actually to subpoena

2026
01:16:51,890 --> 01:16:54,370
Howard Lutnick next week, and I believe he

2027
01:16:54,370 --> 01:16:55,270
will come before the committee.

2028
01:16:55,690 --> 01:16:58,130
And every person who went to that island

2029
01:16:58,130 --> 01:17:01,730
or who corresponded with Epstein about going to

2030
01:17:01,730 --> 01:17:04,430
his mansion should be called under oath to

2031
01:17:04,430 --> 01:17:05,370
tell us what they knew.

2032
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:06,510
Well, that would be a lot of your

2033
01:17:06,510 --> 01:17:08,490
richest constituents, Mr. Kahana.

2034
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:10,930
I have to say, since you brought the

2035
01:17:10,930 --> 01:17:12,890
Epstein out of the blue, I do have

2036
01:17:12,890 --> 01:17:13,790
a side clip.

2037
01:17:13,790 --> 01:17:14,270
Okay.

2038
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:18,190
They did release some of the Hillary...

2039
01:17:18,190 --> 01:17:21,430
Yes, I have some of Hillary's response, but

2040
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:21,630
yeah.

2041
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:23,050
I mean, I was trying to kind of

2042
01:17:23,050 --> 01:17:26,230
like slowly overlap, so we kind of slide

2043
01:17:26,230 --> 01:17:26,950
out of Iran.

2044
01:17:27,050 --> 01:17:28,890
No, we're going to go back to Iran.

2045
01:17:29,070 --> 01:17:30,310
We have to go back to Iran, but

2046
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:31,490
where is this clip?

2047
01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:35,510
You seem to be kind of lost on

2048
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:36,270
your clips today.

2049
01:17:36,330 --> 01:17:37,270
Yeah, you know why?

2050
01:17:38,270 --> 01:17:38,790
Oh, here it is.

2051
01:17:38,830 --> 01:17:40,530
James Comer grills Hillary.

2052
01:17:40,610 --> 01:17:41,350
Would that be the one?

2053
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:42,570
Yeah, that's it.

2054
01:17:42,750 --> 01:17:44,310
Look, Mrs. Clinton, we don't want to be

2055
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:45,110
here all day either.

2056
01:17:45,710 --> 01:17:48,810
So just tell us how you killed Mr.

2057
01:17:48,930 --> 01:17:51,130
Epstein and we can all go home, okay?

2058
01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:54,970
I mean, everyone knows you killed him.

2059
01:17:55,130 --> 01:17:56,730
Just tell us how you did it.

2060
01:17:57,630 --> 01:17:58,330
Okay, look.

2061
01:17:58,590 --> 01:18:00,450
I knew the guards were asleep, so I

2062
01:18:00,450 --> 01:18:02,530
just, I took the keys, I turned off

2063
01:18:02,530 --> 01:18:05,130
the cameras, I went into Jeffrey Epstein's cell

2064
01:18:05,130 --> 01:18:07,310
and I saw him sleeping, so I just

2065
01:18:07,310 --> 01:18:08,930
grabbed one of his shirts and I choked

2066
01:18:08,930 --> 01:18:09,330
him with it.

2067
01:18:09,330 --> 01:18:11,810
He kind of woke up, but I think

2068
01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:13,850
he, I actually think he enjoyed it, because

2069
01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:15,650
he was smiling as I was choking him,

2070
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:17,070
which was kind of strange.

2071
01:18:17,690 --> 01:18:19,430
But anyway, I made it look like a

2072
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:21,270
suicide and I got back home just in

2073
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:21,870
time for dinner.

2074
01:18:22,270 --> 01:18:23,770
I love how people in Toronto are like,

2075
01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:24,710
hey man, this is AI.

2076
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:25,250
Really?

2077
01:18:25,630 --> 01:18:26,390
Really now?

2078
01:18:26,570 --> 01:18:26,790
Really?

2079
01:18:27,050 --> 01:18:27,570
This is AI.

2080
01:18:29,390 --> 01:18:29,830
Huh.

2081
01:18:30,130 --> 01:18:30,470
Huh.

2082
01:18:30,970 --> 01:18:31,950
Surprise, surprise.

2083
01:18:32,110 --> 01:18:33,450
Oh, that's interesting.

2084
01:18:33,810 --> 01:18:36,290
Again, well worth the 1.3 trillion dollar

2085
01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:38,690
investment and even counting, it's doing great.

2086
01:18:38,910 --> 01:18:40,830
Yeah, for that 39 second clip.

2087
01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:44,230
Let me go back to Manhans Welker with

2088
01:18:44,230 --> 01:18:46,970
Lindsey for as long as we can stand

2089
01:18:46,970 --> 01:18:47,170
it.

2090
01:18:47,250 --> 01:18:49,490
And joining me now is Republican Senator Lindsey

2091
01:18:49,490 --> 01:18:50,950
Graham of South Carolina.

2092
01:18:51,410 --> 01:18:53,810
Senator Graham, welcome back to Meet the Press.

2093
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:54,290
Thank you.

2094
01:18:55,070 --> 01:18:56,150
Thank you for being here.

2095
01:18:56,150 --> 01:18:57,390
Thank you for having me on such a

2096
01:18:57,390 --> 01:18:58,210
historic day.

2097
01:18:58,530 --> 01:19:00,330
Thank you for being here on an historic...

2098
01:19:00,330 --> 01:19:01,070
He sounds nervous.

2099
01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,150
He's jitty, man.

2100
01:19:02,250 --> 01:19:04,270
No, I think he's trembling with...

2101
01:19:04,270 --> 01:19:05,410
Oh, jitty, that's what it is.

2102
01:19:05,410 --> 01:19:06,070
He's jitty.

2103
01:19:06,230 --> 01:19:06,690
He's got...

2104
01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:07,310
It's adrenaline.

2105
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:08,910
That guy is screwed up.

2106
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:09,790
It's pulsating.

2107
01:19:10,030 --> 01:19:11,010
Good morning, Senator.

2108
01:19:11,230 --> 01:19:13,070
Let me start with the big question.

2109
01:19:13,690 --> 01:19:15,930
Is the United States at war with Iran?

2110
01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:18,730
I think the Ayatollah would say, yeah.

2111
01:19:19,310 --> 01:19:21,230
I don't know if this is technically a

2112
01:19:21,230 --> 01:19:23,050
war, but we're...

2113
01:19:23,050 --> 01:19:24,250
Here's what I can say.

2114
01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:24,930
The headline...

2115
01:19:24,930 --> 01:19:25,130
Wait a minute.

2116
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:26,090
What did he...

2117
01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:27,590
I mean, this was this morning.

2118
01:19:28,190 --> 01:19:30,810
The Ayatollah was declared dead and now he's...

2119
01:19:30,810 --> 01:19:32,110
Yeah, he was already dead.

2120
01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:33,670
So I don't know what he's...

2121
01:19:33,670 --> 01:19:34,030
Did someone...

2122
01:19:34,030 --> 01:19:35,250
What's he talking about?

2123
01:19:35,530 --> 01:19:37,230
I think he's...

2124
01:19:37,230 --> 01:19:39,070
Did someone forget to brief Lindsey?

2125
01:19:40,770 --> 01:19:42,210
That's very strange.

2126
01:19:42,330 --> 01:19:43,450
I don't know why he's...

2127
01:19:43,450 --> 01:19:44,490
Something's up with him.

2128
01:19:44,530 --> 01:19:45,450
For me, Sunday.

2129
01:19:46,190 --> 01:19:48,650
The mothership of terrorism is sinking.

2130
01:19:49,370 --> 01:19:50,530
The captain is dead.

2131
01:19:51,130 --> 01:19:54,830
The largest state sponsor of terrorism, Iran, is

2132
01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:55,750
close to collapsing.

2133
01:19:56,190 --> 01:19:59,290
This is his big moment.

2134
01:19:59,830 --> 01:20:03,650
The mothership of terrorism is sinking.

2135
01:20:03,650 --> 01:20:04,450
Oh, he had a writer.

2136
01:20:04,730 --> 01:20:05,650
Yeah, is sinking.

2137
01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:07,070
Yes, a writer.

2138
01:20:07,670 --> 01:20:08,890
The captain is dead.

2139
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:09,310
Okay.

2140
01:20:09,670 --> 01:20:11,690
The leader of the largest state sponsor of

2141
01:20:11,690 --> 01:20:13,950
terrorism and his inner team are dead.

2142
01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:18,630
The mothership that fuels the proxies is in

2143
01:20:18,630 --> 01:20:20,230
sinking mode.

2144
01:20:20,850 --> 01:20:23,490
The goal of this operation is to change

2145
01:20:23,490 --> 01:20:24,990
the threat, not the regime.

2146
01:20:25,570 --> 01:20:27,950
When this operation is over, no matter who...

2147
01:20:27,950 --> 01:20:28,550
What's that?

2148
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:29,390
Sinking mode?

2149
01:20:29,390 --> 01:20:30,490
I'm saying he blew these lines.

2150
01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:31,930
He had this stuff written for him, but

2151
01:20:31,930 --> 01:20:33,270
sinking mode?

2152
01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:33,710
Yeah.

2153
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:34,730
It's like you're sinking.

2154
01:20:34,930 --> 01:20:36,190
You're not sinking mode.

2155
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:37,250
What mode are you in?

2156
01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:38,790
I'm in a sinking mode.

2157
01:20:39,190 --> 01:20:40,590
Come on.

2158
01:20:41,250 --> 01:20:43,610
Is in sinking mode.

2159
01:20:44,230 --> 01:20:46,850
The goal of this operation is to change

2160
01:20:46,850 --> 01:20:48,350
the threat, not the regime.

2161
01:20:48,590 --> 01:20:50,950
When this operation is over, no matter who

2162
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:53,350
takes over in Iran, they will not have

2163
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:56,330
ballistic missiles to hurt us, Israel, or the

2164
01:20:56,330 --> 01:20:56,650
region.

2165
01:20:56,650 --> 01:20:59,650
They will not have the capability to be

2166
01:20:59,650 --> 01:21:02,270
the largest state sponsor of terrorism, whether it's

2167
01:21:02,270 --> 01:21:06,350
a cleric or a group of representatives of

2168
01:21:06,350 --> 01:21:08,310
the country where there's an election.

2169
01:21:08,510 --> 01:21:10,030
It doesn't matter right now.

2170
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:12,990
Iran in the future will no longer be

2171
01:21:12,990 --> 01:21:14,810
the largest state sponsor of terrorism.

2172
01:21:15,210 --> 01:21:17,210
They cannot rain terror on the region.

2173
01:21:17,330 --> 01:21:18,930
They cannot commit mass murder.

2174
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:21,010
That's the goal of this operation.

2175
01:21:21,290 --> 01:21:24,310
Again, the mothership of terrorism is sinking.

2176
01:21:24,570 --> 01:21:25,750
The captain is dead.

2177
01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:27,230
I got it all right this time.

2178
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:28,030
Much better.

2179
01:21:28,990 --> 01:21:30,310
He revisited it.

2180
01:21:30,490 --> 01:21:31,630
I got to do it again so I

2181
01:21:31,630 --> 01:21:32,590
might get my sound bite.

2182
01:21:32,770 --> 01:21:35,090
President Trump has been the policy of this

2183
01:21:35,090 --> 01:21:38,090
country for decades to eliminate this regime.

2184
01:21:38,270 --> 01:21:39,390
President Trump did it.

2185
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:41,970
Admiral Cooper came up with a military plan

2186
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:43,030
that's unbelievable.

2187
01:21:43,650 --> 01:21:45,990
We're not done yet, but when it is

2188
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:49,270
done, Iran will no longer be capable of

2189
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:51,070
being the largest state sponsor of terrorism.

2190
01:21:51,550 --> 01:21:53,170
That is the goal, and that goal will

2191
01:21:53,170 --> 01:21:53,730
be achieved.

2192
01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:55,790
See, I like listening to Lindsey Graham, because

2193
01:21:55,790 --> 01:21:57,730
he was read in on this plan early.

2194
01:21:57,850 --> 01:21:59,230
Yes, he was obviously read in.

2195
01:21:59,310 --> 01:22:00,750
That's why he was on the plane with

2196
01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:04,290
Trump and he represents the state with a

2197
01:22:04,290 --> 01:22:08,310
lot of military aircraft, Boeing, lots of stuff

2198
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:09,030
going on.

2199
01:22:11,050 --> 01:22:12,250
He's tight with Israel.

2200
01:22:13,150 --> 01:22:15,270
And that's why he was so kind of

2201
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:18,010
giddy, but I think nervous too, because he

2202
01:22:18,010 --> 01:22:21,350
had these lines to deliver, which you rightly

2203
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:23,350
noticed that he had to re-deliver that

2204
01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:24,950
one line because it had to be that

2205
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:25,470
line.

2206
01:22:25,730 --> 01:22:26,050
It sucked.

2207
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:28,470
Because I'm sure Trump is like, well, you

2208
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:30,450
can't even deliver a simple line we wrote

2209
01:22:30,450 --> 01:22:30,890
for you.

2210
01:22:33,050 --> 01:22:37,250
So the next pertinent question, Welker is asking

2211
01:22:37,250 --> 01:22:38,150
the right questions here.

2212
01:22:38,530 --> 01:22:41,150
Will the United States pick the next leader

2213
01:22:41,150 --> 01:22:43,790
of Iran, or will the Iranian people pick

2214
01:22:43,790 --> 01:22:44,470
the next leader?

2215
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:46,270
Isn't that great?

2216
01:22:46,830 --> 01:22:49,050
That's exactly what the theory is.

2217
01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:49,530
Good question.

2218
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:52,350
I talked to the crown prince.

2219
01:22:52,450 --> 01:22:54,570
He's got some ideas about transition.

2220
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:56,170
There will be no American...

2221
01:22:56,170 --> 01:22:56,670
Hold on.

2222
01:22:56,830 --> 01:22:57,830
He took to the...

2223
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:58,830
Wait a minute.

2224
01:23:00,490 --> 01:23:02,570
Lindsey Graham just said, I talked to the

2225
01:23:02,570 --> 01:23:03,510
crown prince.

2226
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:04,890
Yes, we said.

2227
01:23:05,150 --> 01:23:07,330
So is the crown prince still in play,

2228
01:23:07,410 --> 01:23:09,750
or is this Lindsey freelancing?

2229
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,020
This is a good question because the crown

2230
01:23:16,020 --> 01:23:17,500
prince shouldn't be in play.

2231
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:24,460
Unless there's a backup plan or contingency, or

2232
01:23:24,460 --> 01:23:27,780
there's something to do in case...

2233
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,360
Maybe he's held in abeyance in case the...

2234
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,280
Because they don't know how the public's going

2235
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,940
to react to all this, and whether the

2236
01:23:34,940 --> 01:23:36,740
guy that they want to put in place

2237
01:23:36,740 --> 01:23:38,420
is going to actually get to where he's

2238
01:23:38,420 --> 01:23:39,360
got to go.

2239
01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:40,980
Who knows?

2240
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:42,940
Maybe it's just a contingency.

2241
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,440
Well, let's see if Lindsey tells us more.

2242
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,860
I talked to the crown prince.

2243
01:23:47,980 --> 01:23:50,100
He's got some ideas about transition.

2244
01:23:50,420 --> 01:23:52,200
There will be no American boots on our...

2245
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,240
He's the trans prince.

2246
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,300
He's not the crown prince.

2247
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:55,320
He's the trans prince.

2248
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:56,000
That's what he is.

2249
01:23:57,220 --> 01:23:58,800
I talked to the crown prince.

2250
01:23:58,940 --> 01:24:01,040
He's got some ideas about transition.

2251
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:03,200
There will be no American boots on our

2252
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:03,480
ground.

2253
01:24:03,580 --> 01:24:04,420
This is not Iraq.

2254
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,400
This is not Germany.

2255
01:24:05,540 --> 01:24:06,340
This is not Japan.

2256
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:08,640
We're going to free the people up from

2257
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:09,600
a terrorist regime.

2258
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,480
And the goal is not only to help

2259
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:13,520
the Iranian people to chart a new destiny,

2260
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,120
to make sure no matter who takes over

2261
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,140
in Iran, no matter who it is, no

2262
01:24:18,140 --> 01:24:20,840
matter who the people pick, they cannot become

2263
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,460
the largest state sponsor of terrorism.

2264
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:25,480
They can't fuel Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas.

2265
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:26,620
They can't have ballistic missiles.

2266
01:24:26,620 --> 01:24:29,620
The Houthis.

2267
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:31,820
This guy.

2268
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,000
The Houthis.

2269
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,080
This guy's no good.

2270
01:24:35,480 --> 01:24:37,540
They cannot become the largest state sponsor of

2271
01:24:37,540 --> 01:24:37,640
terrorism.

2272
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,920
They can't fuel Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas.

2273
01:24:41,020 --> 01:24:42,500
They can't have ballistic missiles.

2274
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:44,120
They can't have a nuclear weapon.

2275
01:24:44,220 --> 01:24:46,120
They will be out of the terrorism business.

2276
01:24:46,620 --> 01:24:47,740
So the people will pick.

2277
01:24:48,260 --> 01:24:49,980
As to the people, choose wisely.

2278
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:51,500
We want to be your friend.

2279
01:24:51,660 --> 01:24:53,460
We'd like to have a good relationship with

2280
01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:55,640
you going forward, but that is up to

2281
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:55,880
you.

2282
01:24:55,980 --> 01:24:57,400
Now, what am I going to do next?

2283
01:24:57,740 --> 01:25:00,080
When this regime can no longer threaten the

2284
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,060
region, I'm going to build on what I

2285
01:25:02,060 --> 01:25:03,960
did with President Biden to try to get

2286
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,500
Saudi Arabia and Israel to normalize.

2287
01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:09,440
If the fall of this regime...

2288
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:10,240
Wait a minute.

2289
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:12,220
Is he talking to Trump now?

2290
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,620
What is he saying?

2291
01:25:14,740 --> 01:25:17,340
He's taking credit for the Abraham Accords, apparently.

2292
01:25:17,940 --> 01:25:18,780
This is great.

2293
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,640
I'm going to build on what I did

2294
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,720
with President Biden to try to get Saudi

2295
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,860
Arabia and Israel to normalize.

2296
01:25:24,980 --> 01:25:25,480
What?

2297
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,120
He's off the rails.

2298
01:25:30,180 --> 01:25:31,180
He's off script.

2299
01:25:31,380 --> 01:25:31,960
He's high.

2300
01:25:32,740 --> 01:25:33,640
He's high.

2301
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,060
He doesn't know what he's talking about.

2302
01:25:36,260 --> 01:25:37,240
This is great.

2303
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,580
If the fall of this regime would lead

2304
01:25:39,580 --> 01:25:44,200
to normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel, the

2305
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,740
center of gravity for Islam is Saudi Arabia,

2306
01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:48,240
the one and only Jewish state.

2307
01:25:48,420 --> 01:25:50,060
If they could make peace and have a

2308
01:25:50,060 --> 01:25:51,240
normal relationship...

2309
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:51,900
Wait.

2310
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,720
That's already happened.

2311
01:25:54,820 --> 01:25:56,680
That's already happened, but he says...

2312
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,440
The way he says it, though, he sounds

2313
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:00,420
as though Saudi Arabia is the one and

2314
01:26:00,420 --> 01:26:01,900
only Jewish state.

2315
01:26:02,900 --> 01:26:04,680
He jams it together.

2316
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,760
It's not what he said, but it sounded

2317
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:07,660
a bit like that.

2318
01:26:07,940 --> 01:26:09,560
No, it's what it sounded like because he's

2319
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:10,180
just throwing...

2320
01:26:10,180 --> 01:26:13,180
He's got a script that he's screwed up.

2321
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,340
This is out of control.

2322
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:18,540
I'm going to build on what I did

2323
01:26:18,540 --> 01:26:20,620
with President Biden to try to get Saudi

2324
01:26:20,620 --> 01:26:22,760
Arabia and Israel to normalize.

2325
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,140
If the fall of this regime would lead

2326
01:26:25,140 --> 01:26:29,800
to normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel, the

2327
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,280
center of gravity for Islam is Saudi Arabia,

2328
01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:33,800
the one and only Jewish state.

2329
01:26:33,900 --> 01:26:35,340
If they could make peace...

2330
01:26:35,340 --> 01:26:35,840
You're right.

2331
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:38,820
Saudi Arabia, the one and only Jewish state.

2332
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,000
That's great, Lindsey.

2333
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:41,720
...have a normal relationship.

2334
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,620
Because this regime fell, it would be historic.

2335
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,160
Taking the regime down is a big deal.

2336
01:26:47,740 --> 01:26:50,200
Normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel is a

2337
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,020
historic deal.

2338
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:52,940
That's where I'm going to spend my time

2339
01:26:52,940 --> 01:26:54,640
and energy to President Trump.

2340
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,640
How about you spend your time in, I

2341
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:57,820
don't know, North Carolina.

2342
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:58,500
Is he North?

2343
01:26:58,720 --> 01:26:59,180
South Carolina.

2344
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,480
Spend your time there with your people who

2345
01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:03,240
elected you.

2346
01:27:03,460 --> 01:27:05,300
Yeah, they didn't elect you to be an

2347
01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:06,620
international ambassador.

2348
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,240
You did something everybody talked about.

2349
01:27:09,380 --> 01:27:10,340
You took Maduro down.

2350
01:27:10,460 --> 01:27:11,340
Everybody talked about it.

2351
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:11,820
You did it.

2352
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,280
You took the Ayatollah down.

2353
01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:15,840
Again, the goal of this operation is to

2354
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,580
make sure there will never be in Iran

2355
01:27:18,580 --> 01:27:21,460
a state sponsor of terrorism to rain havoc

2356
01:27:21,460 --> 01:27:22,700
on us and the region.

2357
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:23,700
That's the goal.

2358
01:27:23,860 --> 01:27:25,600
I hope the people will choose wisely.

2359
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,440
I think Trump's not going to be happy

2360
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:28,840
with this.

2361
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,860
Oh, he's giving Biden credit.

2362
01:27:31,620 --> 01:27:33,600
I put Biden in there.

2363
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:35,720
Let's do one more.

2364
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,380
I have a ton of them.

2365
01:27:38,500 --> 01:27:39,380
This is the last one.

2366
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:43,140
Unless it's funnier than this last clip.

2367
01:27:43,220 --> 01:27:46,440
Senator, history tells us just how complicated regime

2368
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:47,000
chain is.

2369
01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:47,860
We saw that.

2370
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:48,560
Regime chain.

2371
01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:50,840
Regime chain?

2372
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,940
Hey man, what kind of chain is that

2373
01:27:54,940 --> 01:27:55,300
you're wearing?

2374
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:56,160
Regime chain?

2375
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:56,960
Uh-huh.

2376
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:57,560
Oh yeah?

2377
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,840
Senator, history tells us just how complicated regime

2378
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:02,400
chain is.

2379
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,580
We saw that when Saddam Hussein...

2380
01:28:05,580 --> 01:28:07,040
How petty are we, John?

2381
01:28:07,540 --> 01:28:08,480
We're the worst.

2382
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,680
How can you not ridicule?

2383
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,000
These are professionals making millions.

2384
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:16,700
She makes millions of dollars.

2385
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,140
I mean, it's unbelievable how lame this is.

2386
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,980
And then you got this Lindsey Graham guy

2387
01:28:21,980 --> 01:28:24,380
who can't even do a script properly and

2388
01:28:24,380 --> 01:28:26,500
now he's taking credit for everything that Trump's

2389
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:26,900
doing.

2390
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:29,620
And yet he's patting himself on the back,

2391
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:31,360
left and right, and blowing his lines.

2392
01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:32,340
This is unbelievable.

2393
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,300
Senator, history tells us just how complicated regime

2394
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:36,880
chain is.

2395
01:28:37,060 --> 01:28:40,380
We saw that when Saddam Hussein was ousted

2396
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:43,520
and the terror threat and group moved in.

2397
01:28:43,820 --> 01:28:46,180
How will the United States make sure that

2398
01:28:46,180 --> 01:28:46,800
the next Iranian government...

2399
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:47,520
Wait, stop it again.

2400
01:28:49,340 --> 01:28:54,260
She's flustered because she knows what she said

2401
01:28:54,260 --> 01:28:59,600
about Hussein ousted in a regime threat or

2402
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:00,060
something.

2403
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:00,820
Let's listen again.

2404
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,080
We saw that when Saddam Hussein was ousted

2405
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,040
in a terror threat and group moved in.

2406
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,860
He was ousted in a terror threat.

2407
01:29:09,020 --> 01:29:10,180
And a group moved in.

2408
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,420
He was ousted in a terror threat.

2409
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,660
What is she saying?

2410
01:29:14,860 --> 01:29:15,700
I don't know.

2411
01:29:15,780 --> 01:29:17,920
How will the United States make sure that

2412
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,960
the next Iranian government isn't worse than the

2413
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:22,860
current regime?

2414
01:29:24,580 --> 01:29:27,680
He makes this level...

2415
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,080
He makes these noises all the time.

2416
01:29:30,260 --> 01:29:31,760
...than the current regime.

2417
01:29:34,580 --> 01:29:36,780
It's not our job to pick the next

2418
01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:37,500
Iranian government.

2419
01:29:37,900 --> 01:29:40,000
I don't remember being attacked by Iraq any

2420
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,360
time in the past.

2421
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:42,780
What?

2422
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,100
Iraq is complicated.

2423
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:44,660
What?

2424
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:45,820
What?

2425
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:49,140
That's changing the narrative.

2426
01:29:50,340 --> 01:29:51,720
I don't remember being attacked.

2427
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,840
We literally changed our mind from Afghanistan to

2428
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:56,900
Iraq overnight.

2429
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,380
And now he doesn't remember any of it.

2430
01:30:00,980 --> 01:30:01,940
Pick a side.

2431
01:30:02,380 --> 01:30:04,360
We have a relationship with Iraq.

2432
01:30:04,460 --> 01:30:06,240
It's up to Iran to pick your leader.

2433
01:30:06,620 --> 01:30:07,560
It's not my job.

2434
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,820
It's not President Trump's job.

2435
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,420
We're not going to occupy the country.

2436
01:30:10,420 --> 01:30:12,100
We're going to give the people of Iran

2437
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:14,200
a chance to do something they've never had

2438
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:14,400
before.

2439
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,100
Hold on a second.

2440
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:17,840
It's not my job.

2441
01:30:18,540 --> 01:30:20,580
He's put himself ahead of Trump.

2442
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:21,980
Yeah.

2443
01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:23,800
Trump will notice this.

2444
01:30:24,700 --> 01:30:24,920
Yeah.

2445
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,200
I think Lindsey's two martinis in at this

2446
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:28,480
point.

2447
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:29,500
I think you're right.

2448
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:30,920
I think he's got you in the bag.

2449
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:32,720
I had a sense of this when he

2450
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:33,300
started off.

2451
01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:35,220
He sounded like he was a little bit...

2452
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:36,500
Toasty.

2453
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:37,920
Toasty.

2454
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,540
We're not going to occupy the country.

2455
01:30:39,860 --> 01:30:41,220
We're going to give the people of Iran

2456
01:30:41,220 --> 01:30:43,300
a chance to do something they've never had

2457
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:43,700
before.

2458
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,100
It's our job to kill your leader and

2459
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:48,020
to keep killing them until you choose the

2460
01:30:48,020 --> 01:30:48,600
right one.

2461
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,780
In Europe, they make you vote over.

2462
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,320
It's kind of the same thing.

2463
01:30:52,460 --> 01:30:53,560
Chart their own destiny.

2464
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,760
We're going to take away from any future

2465
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,920
regime the ability, any future government, the ability

2466
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,520
to have a ballistic missile program, a nuclear

2467
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,620
program, or support terrorism.

2468
01:31:03,620 --> 01:31:05,000
That's what we're going to do.

2469
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,160
If out of this comes a new government

2470
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,240
that we can do business with, great.

2471
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,500
But having Iran no longer the state sponsor

2472
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:15,520
of terrorism opens up historic opportunities.

2473
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,120
It's the one irritant in the region.

2474
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,280
It's the one impediment to real peace.

2475
01:31:20,580 --> 01:31:22,160
We'll never get to where we want to

2476
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,540
go as long as Iran is the largest

2477
01:31:24,540 --> 01:31:25,700
state sponsor of terrorism.

2478
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,120
I'm here to tell you, the largest state

2479
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,300
sponsor of terrorism, the mothership of terrorism, is

2480
01:31:31,300 --> 01:31:33,160
sinking and the captain is dead.

2481
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:34,840
And a lot of good things are going

2482
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:35,220
to follow.

2483
01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:36,520
Oh no.

2484
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,820
Lindsay, no one cares about your soundbite.

2485
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:41,200
It's not working.

2486
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:42,380
It's not a good one.

2487
01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:44,340
Fire the guy who wrote it for you.

2488
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:45,920
It's just not good.

2489
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,970
Um, this is, this is, uh, I have

2490
01:31:51,970 --> 01:31:52,430
to play this.

2491
01:31:52,490 --> 01:31:55,670
The guy is just, he's a, it's like

2492
01:31:55,670 --> 01:31:57,050
land mines everywhere.

2493
01:31:57,190 --> 01:31:59,570
This guy, like, walk through the minefield and

2494
01:31:59,570 --> 01:32:01,430
please step on every single one.

2495
01:32:01,610 --> 01:32:03,090
Lindsay, that's what you're good at.

2496
01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:05,590
Senator, let me ask you because the President's

2497
01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:09,910
opposition to regime change and war, quite frankly,

2498
01:32:10,050 --> 01:32:12,990
was central to what he described as his

2499
01:32:12,990 --> 01:32:14,090
America First agenda.

2500
01:32:14,270 --> 01:32:17,630
On Saturday, former Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene

2501
01:32:17,630 --> 01:32:18,590
wrote this.

2502
01:32:18,690 --> 01:32:21,930
We said no more foreign wars, no more

2503
01:32:21,930 --> 01:32:22,770
regime change.

2504
01:32:22,830 --> 01:32:25,510
We said it on rally stage after rally

2505
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:27,170
stage, speech after speech.

2506
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:31,150
Trump, Vance, basically the entire administration campaigned on

2507
01:32:31,150 --> 01:32:33,010
it and promised to put America first.

2508
01:32:33,010 --> 01:32:33,990
Wait a minute, I love this.

2509
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:36,090
So, first they campaigned.

2510
01:32:36,190 --> 01:32:38,550
The whole campaign was the Epstein files.

2511
01:32:38,690 --> 01:32:40,630
Now the whole campaign was no more war.

2512
01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:42,890
It's like, just choose one.

2513
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:44,510
No more regime change.

2514
01:32:44,850 --> 01:32:47,270
We said it on rally stage after rally

2515
01:32:47,270 --> 01:32:48,910
stage, speech after speech.

2516
01:32:49,210 --> 01:32:52,930
Trump, Vance, basically the entire administration campaigned on

2517
01:32:52,930 --> 01:32:55,370
it and promised to put America first and

2518
01:32:55,370 --> 01:32:56,950
make America great again.

2519
01:32:57,090 --> 01:33:00,610
Did the President's strikes on Iran go against

2520
01:33:00,610 --> 01:33:02,810
everything that he promised the American people?

2521
01:33:03,050 --> 01:33:04,010
This is a good question.

2522
01:33:04,190 --> 01:33:05,830
This is a fair and valid question.

2523
01:33:06,290 --> 01:33:06,870
Lindsey, go.

2524
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,360
Quite the opposite.

2525
01:33:11,500 --> 01:33:14,000
He promised to keep us safe, to stand

2526
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,580
up to people who would hurt America.

2527
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,900
She's a former congressman for a reason.

2528
01:33:18,820 --> 01:33:19,420
What is it?

2529
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:21,940
America first is the following.

2530
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,740
Make sure that no regime who wishes to

2531
01:33:24,740 --> 01:33:25,760
hurt America can.

2532
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,740
To make sure that they don't have a

2533
01:33:27,740 --> 01:33:30,260
ballistic missile capability to attack our country.

2534
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,540
They have American blood on their hands.

2535
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,680
We destroyed their missile program, the nuclear program.

2536
01:33:35,780 --> 01:33:37,180
They're coming right back at it.

2537
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,720
America first is not isolationism.

2538
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:42,180
America first is not head in the sand.

2539
01:33:42,620 --> 01:33:44,620
America first is not to get entangled.

2540
01:33:44,860 --> 01:33:46,300
We're not going to have any boots on

2541
01:33:46,300 --> 01:33:47,100
the ground in Iran.

2542
01:33:47,300 --> 01:33:50,900
But America first is to kill people who

2543
01:33:50,900 --> 01:33:53,080
wish us ill with Iran.

2544
01:33:55,020 --> 01:33:55,320
Wow.

2545
01:33:58,180 --> 01:34:00,860
America first is to kill people.

2546
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,060
That's what America is.

2547
01:34:03,820 --> 01:34:04,880
How about that?

2548
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,400
I gotta listen to this gem again.

2549
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,360
That's better than your, the mothership is sinking.

2550
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,080
Destroyed their missile program, the nuclear program.

2551
01:34:13,180 --> 01:34:14,560
They're coming right back at it.

2552
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,120
America first is not isolationism.

2553
01:34:17,500 --> 01:34:19,600
America first is not head in the sand.

2554
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,040
America first is not to get entangled.

2555
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,700
We're not going to have any boots on

2556
01:34:23,700 --> 01:34:24,520
the ground in Iran.

2557
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:28,280
But America first is to kill people who

2558
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,640
wish us ill with a record of trying

2559
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,500
to destroy us and the region to take

2560
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:35,600
them off the table.

2561
01:34:35,740 --> 01:34:37,480
Foam finger number one.

2562
01:34:37,980 --> 01:34:39,120
We kill people.

2563
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,600
Celebrate today, please, my Democratic colleagues, that the

2564
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,960
most evil man on the planet is no

2565
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:46,280
more.

2566
01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:48,100
He terrorized his own people.

2567
01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:50,480
32,000 people at least have been killed

2568
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,160
protesting a better life.

2569
01:34:52,220 --> 01:34:53,960
He was trying to get a nuclear weapon.

2570
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,840
He was building missiles to hit the United

2571
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:56,300
States.

2572
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,880
He was a religious Nazi that had a

2573
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,020
horrible agenda for the region and the world.

2574
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,080
He is no more.

2575
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,600
Well done, President Trump.

2576
01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:04,700
Well done to your team.

2577
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,200
This is something to celebrate.

2578
01:35:07,460 --> 01:35:11,060
I mean, I think there's, it's kind of

2579
01:35:11,060 --> 01:35:14,920
like it's a sexual fetish, I believe.

2580
01:35:15,260 --> 01:35:18,780
When you're so into killing people that you

2581
01:35:18,780 --> 01:35:21,420
say it like that, don't you think?

2582
01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:23,140
Don't you think that's some kind of strange?

2583
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:24,780
There's something wrong with this guy.

2584
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,700
America first, and he even paused.

2585
01:35:28,380 --> 01:35:30,200
America first is to kill people.

2586
01:35:30,700 --> 01:35:32,480
And then he added on, you know, who

2587
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:34,000
shoot missiles at us.

2588
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,960
The guy has a screw loose.

2589
01:35:39,540 --> 01:35:42,480
And props to Ms. Welker there, because she

2590
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:44,300
certainly knows how to get the best out

2591
01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:44,520
of him.

2592
01:35:44,900 --> 01:35:45,800
That was good.

2593
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,060
Well, the booker, give the booker credit.

2594
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:49,200
They booked him at the beginning.

2595
01:35:49,580 --> 01:35:49,680
Yes.

2596
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,980
People are riveted.

2597
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,280
They're on their screens.

2598
01:35:52,420 --> 01:35:53,920
We can't believe what this guy is saying.

2599
01:35:54,780 --> 01:35:57,520
You got anything else on Iran here you

2600
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:58,200
want to finish up?

2601
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,020
I mean, I don't want to.

2602
01:36:00,380 --> 01:36:02,140
We should probably wrap it up.

2603
01:36:02,900 --> 01:36:07,620
First, I got an AJ Al Jazeera clip.

2604
01:36:07,780 --> 01:36:10,020
This is, I called, this is an example

2605
01:36:10,020 --> 01:36:13,320
of Iranian, Baghdad Bob.

2606
01:36:13,480 --> 01:36:14,540
This is a Baghdad Bob.

2607
01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:15,680
There's a bunch of them.

2608
01:36:15,860 --> 01:36:17,780
Now, Iran's foreign minister has been speaking to

2609
01:36:17,780 --> 01:36:19,300
US media about Iraq.

2610
01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:21,020
She has acknowledged that Iran may have lost

2611
01:36:21,020 --> 01:36:22,940
a few commanders, but that it wasn't quote,

2612
01:36:23,060 --> 01:36:24,200
such a big problem.

2613
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:26,520
He also said that Iran was open to

2614
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:26,900
dialogue.

2615
01:36:27,220 --> 01:36:30,040
If Americans want to talk to us, they

2616
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,000
know how they can contact me.

2617
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,420
We are certainly interested for de-escalation.

2618
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,180
This is not our war.

2619
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,900
This is an imposed war against us.

2620
01:36:43,180 --> 01:36:44,540
This is a war of choice by the

2621
01:36:44,540 --> 01:36:46,440
United States, and they have to pay for

2622
01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:46,760
that.

2623
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:48,960
She also stressed that Iran would not give

2624
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,600
up its right to enrich uranium.

2625
01:36:51,700 --> 01:36:52,180
Uranium.

2626
01:36:53,140 --> 01:36:53,420
Okay.

2627
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,840
Now, I just want to play this one.

2628
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,340
This is the BBC, and this is a

2629
01:36:58,340 --> 01:37:01,260
I thought was an interesting, unexpected they bring

2630
01:37:01,260 --> 01:37:04,020
these guys on, these experts, and they're kind

2631
01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:05,840
of giddy in an unexpected way.

2632
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,160
This is an Iran unexpected BBC report.

2633
01:37:08,420 --> 01:37:10,420
Okay, let's talk more about this breaking news

2634
01:37:10,420 --> 01:37:11,960
at this hour with my guests here.

2635
01:37:11,980 --> 01:37:14,600
Ben Taleiblou is with me, Senior Fellow at

2636
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,660
the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, and our

2637
01:37:17,660 --> 01:37:18,560
colleague Hasha Jornady.

2638
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,360
He's the BBC Persian Washington correspondent.

2639
01:37:21,940 --> 01:37:23,460
Gentlemen, it's great to have you both in

2640
01:37:23,460 --> 01:37:25,220
the studio on this momentous day.

2641
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,120
The U.S. and Israel launching strikes on

2642
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:28,400
Iran.

2643
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,680
Iran then launching strikes across the region, it

2644
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:32,840
says, in retaliation.

2645
01:37:33,020 --> 01:37:34,320
Hasha, I want to start with you because

2646
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,840
you have been in touch with contacts in

2647
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:37,860
Iran, in Tehran.

2648
01:37:37,860 --> 01:37:39,200
What have you been hearing?

2649
01:37:39,620 --> 01:37:41,540
Well, what I've been hearing in the past

2650
01:37:41,540 --> 01:37:44,260
couple of hours after the announcement that there

2651
01:37:44,260 --> 01:37:47,840
is a possibility of Ayatollah Khamenei being killed

2652
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,480
is that the sense I'm getting is a

2653
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:54,220
sense of it's a celebratory mood in Tehran

2654
01:37:54,220 --> 01:37:55,420
and other places I've talked.

2655
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:59,340
Many people left Tehran, evacuated Tehran as the

2656
01:37:59,340 --> 01:38:00,000
war started.

2657
01:38:00,440 --> 01:38:02,620
And many of them have the habit of

2658
01:38:02,620 --> 01:38:05,680
going to the southern coast of the Caspian

2659
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:06,020
Sea.

2660
01:38:06,020 --> 01:38:08,660
The city's there, people have villas there, go

2661
01:38:08,660 --> 01:38:09,180
stay there.

2662
01:38:09,780 --> 01:38:11,920
The roads are full of traffic, cars are

2663
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:12,580
at a standstill.

2664
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,140
The moment the possibility of death was announced,

2665
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,300
people just get out of their cars and

2666
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:19,020
start dancing.

2667
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,260
There are videos on social media from Tehran.

2668
01:38:22,660 --> 01:38:25,880
You are seeing firecrackers, you are hearing people

2669
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,460
celebrating, cheers erupting in the capital.

2670
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,520
So, many people, they haven't forgotten that last

2671
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,900
month, thousands of people were killed while the

2672
01:38:38,900 --> 01:38:40,720
government tried to suppress the protests.

2673
01:38:41,740 --> 01:38:42,980
They haven't forgotten this.

2674
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,560
And that was the last chapter of Ayatollah

2675
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,580
Ali Khamenei's leadership, 36 years of leadership, as

2676
01:38:49,580 --> 01:38:51,640
Alistair said, just said.

2677
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,120
So that was the closing chapter of his

2678
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,900
rule, if it's verified that he's been killed.

2679
01:38:57,380 --> 01:38:58,640
People haven't forgotten that.

2680
01:38:58,900 --> 01:39:00,740
That's why you are seeing what you see

2681
01:39:00,740 --> 01:39:03,180
today in Tehran, other parts of the country,

2682
01:39:03,260 --> 01:39:05,680
you hear people are cheering up, they're happy,

2683
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:06,720
that's the reason.

2684
01:39:07,180 --> 01:39:09,500
So, now it's going to come down to

2685
01:39:09,500 --> 01:39:11,700
the PR war in the United States.

2686
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:15,360
The media is just waiting, just waiting to

2687
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,420
pounce, because we're going to go straight back

2688
01:39:18,420 --> 01:39:19,220
to the midterms.

2689
01:39:19,980 --> 01:39:22,740
Any sign of this going wrong, of it

2690
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:26,180
not making any difference, they're going to pounce,

2691
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,020
they're going to do everything they can.

2692
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:30,600
The Persians I know, and in America we

2693
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,900
call them Persians, they are very happy.

2694
01:39:33,060 --> 01:39:35,020
They're like, we've been waiting for this for

2695
01:39:35,020 --> 01:39:35,520
decades.

2696
01:39:37,420 --> 01:39:39,980
The Israelis that I know, who are like,

2697
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:42,320
well, you know, we'll probably get hit, but

2698
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:44,200
we want it too.

2699
01:39:45,340 --> 01:39:49,300
It seems, in general, like, if this can

2700
01:39:49,300 --> 01:39:51,580
really happen, and we can do business with

2701
01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:55,240
a new Iran, and get our oil companies

2702
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:56,980
in, goodbye BP, out you go.

2703
01:39:59,060 --> 01:40:03,660
With Saudi Arabia now contributing to, you know,

2704
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:05,540
the board, I guess they want to jump

2705
01:40:05,540 --> 01:40:07,280
on the board of peace.

2706
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,120
This really could be a game changer.

2707
01:40:10,940 --> 01:40:12,040
And it could be a big deal for

2708
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:12,880
the midterms.

2709
01:40:13,620 --> 01:40:13,840
Yes.

2710
01:40:14,140 --> 01:40:16,020
You're right, that's why they have to reverse

2711
01:40:16,020 --> 01:40:18,340
the course here in terms of the public

2712
01:40:18,340 --> 01:40:18,960
relations.

2713
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,640
This has to be quashed.

2714
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:22,120
Well, what I'd do is, if I was

2715
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,340
working at NBC, I'd have Lindsey Graham just,

2716
01:40:26,420 --> 01:40:28,200
I'd clip that over and over again.

2717
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,480
America First is killing people.

2718
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,000
Well, just keep booking him.

2719
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:34,040
Just keep booking him.

2720
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:35,440
Keep booking him.

2721
01:40:35,660 --> 01:40:38,080
Get that guy on again, he's great.

2722
01:40:38,660 --> 01:40:39,860
He's the best.

2723
01:40:40,420 --> 01:40:40,660
Yeah.

2724
01:40:42,220 --> 01:40:47,640
Yeah, well, it's either the most strategic, amazing

2725
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:47,740
gambit ever.

2726
01:40:47,740 --> 01:40:49,120
I mean, they're trying to get to Marjorie

2727
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:49,780
Taylor Green.

2728
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,180
She's all of a sudden a big hero.

2729
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:55,560
For some reason, a lunatic, they called her

2730
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,200
a maniac, and now she's the big hero

2731
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,620
of the left in NBC.

2732
01:41:01,620 --> 01:41:04,180
Just to answer some, yes, of course this

2733
01:41:04,180 --> 01:41:06,080
is about oil, but it's not necessarily about

2734
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,020
Iranian oil.

2735
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:09,700
It's about the control of the Straits of

2736
01:41:09,700 --> 01:41:13,760
Hormuz, which has been under threat for years

2737
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:14,820
with the Houthis.

2738
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:19,120
The Houthis, they've been a very painful pain

2739
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,380
in the butt for everybody.

2740
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,820
So, yeah, of course it's about oil.

2741
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,540
Oil is always the game.

2742
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:28,800
That is the world.

2743
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:31,660
Without oil...

2744
01:41:31,660 --> 01:41:34,120
The entire Western civilization is built on burning

2745
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:34,480
stuff.

2746
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:36,480
Yes, yes, so of course.

2747
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,480
But it's not like the Trump brothers are

2748
01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:40,660
going to move in and start up an

2749
01:41:40,660 --> 01:41:41,340
oil company.

2750
01:41:41,780 --> 01:41:42,900
No, that's the Bushes.

2751
01:41:43,340 --> 01:41:44,620
That's what they did.

2752
01:41:45,980 --> 01:41:48,080
The second clip here from BBC?

2753
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,840
Yeah, this is just kind of a follow

2754
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:52,720
-up from the other guy, because this first

2755
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,440
guy, I don't think they expected him to

2756
01:41:54,440 --> 01:41:56,940
go on and on about how happy everybody

2757
01:41:56,940 --> 01:41:57,360
is.

2758
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,340
And so they bring in the second guy,

2759
01:41:59,420 --> 01:42:02,300
and he kind of reaffirms that this is

2760
01:42:02,300 --> 01:42:04,460
anti-climatic, but it's worth playing.

2761
01:42:04,700 --> 01:42:05,780
Ben, how do you see this?

2762
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,680
With these reports, again, we've heard President Trump

2763
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,120
now say that the Supreme Leader is dead.

2764
01:42:11,540 --> 01:42:12,900
The Israelis are saying that as well.

2765
01:42:12,980 --> 01:42:14,760
The Iranians are saying that's not the case.

2766
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,560
But despite all that, where do you see

2767
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:19,380
where things stand right now for Iran and

2768
01:42:19,380 --> 01:42:19,920
its leadership?

2769
01:42:20,580 --> 01:42:21,740
Well, great to be with you on this

2770
01:42:21,740 --> 01:42:24,360
historic moment, Sumit, also in studio with our

2771
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:25,860
friend Khashoggiar from BBC Persian.

2772
01:42:26,300 --> 01:42:28,240
No doubt, this is an inflection point not

2773
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,520
just in the 47-year history of the

2774
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,040
Islamic Republic, but potentially even if operations continue

2775
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,680
in the larger U.S.-Iran relationship here.

2776
01:42:36,980 --> 01:42:38,920
We know in President Trump's comments in the

2777
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,800
video, I should say, the one he posted

2778
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,460
earlier as military operations against the Islamic Republic

2779
01:42:43,460 --> 01:42:46,080
were underway, the last part he actually alluded

2780
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,720
to something that the Iranian people could do

2781
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,080
to take back their government.

2782
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,300
Much of that will depend on the nature

2783
01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:53,620
of the targeting if Israel and America pushes

2784
01:42:53,620 --> 01:42:56,460
through or pushes past what's left of Iran's

2785
01:42:56,460 --> 01:42:57,060
security state.

2786
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,720
Make no mistake, Ali Khamenei was the region's

2787
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:01,260
longest-serving autocrat.

2788
01:43:01,740 --> 01:43:03,480
He was the second Supreme Leader in the

2789
01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:05,840
Islamic Republic, but part of his success for

2790
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,840
those 30-plus years was institutionalizing his power.

2791
01:43:09,140 --> 01:43:10,640
So now it will remain to be seen

2792
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,300
if Washington, if Jerusalem will go after that

2793
01:43:13,300 --> 01:43:15,800
apparatus of oppression, will go after what's left

2794
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,280
of command and control, will drill down to

2795
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,220
foster defections from below so that unit-level

2796
01:43:21,220 --> 01:43:23,600
cohesion of these security forces, so that local

2797
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,540
initiative is taken over by local fear and

2798
01:43:26,540 --> 01:43:28,380
that the guns go to the sides rather

2799
01:43:28,380 --> 01:43:30,220
than continue to be turned against the population

2800
01:43:30,220 --> 01:43:32,940
or turned against Israel, America and perhaps even

2801
01:43:32,940 --> 01:43:35,200
more importantly, we should say here, Iran's Arab

2802
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:35,520
neighbors.

2803
01:43:35,660 --> 01:43:36,960
There are some here who are taking a

2804
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,320
premature victory lap that potentially you could have

2805
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,740
a military government come in, something a la

2806
01:43:41,740 --> 01:43:44,340
South Korea and engagement with military governments would

2807
01:43:44,340 --> 01:43:48,140
lead to modernization, westernization, and then democratization.

2808
01:43:48,740 --> 01:43:49,300
Oh, okay.

2809
01:43:49,580 --> 01:43:52,040
Well, yes, anticlimactic but true, I think.

2810
01:43:52,140 --> 01:43:53,400
They're seeing it for what it is.

2811
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:54,300
Yeah.

2812
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,560
The BBC, I think, I listened to all

2813
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,740
these foreign sources for most of this stuff

2814
01:43:59,740 --> 01:44:01,720
and I have to say, really, it was

2815
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,480
very I thought they were quite good at

2816
01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:04,100
their reporting.

2817
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,020
All right, back to Epstein.

2818
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:09,780
Back to Epstein.

2819
01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:11,880
Bill Gates in a Wall Street Journal exclusive

2820
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:15,640
apologized to staff at the Gates Foundation not

2821
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,760
only over his ties to Jeffrey Epstein, but

2822
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,380
also to affairs with Russian women.

2823
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:24,560
Russian hookers.

2824
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,380
Bill, oh, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.

2825
01:44:29,260 --> 01:44:31,460
These Russian girls can be pretty attractive.

2826
01:44:32,540 --> 01:44:34,520
And it just keeps on, the hits just

2827
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,040
keep on coming over there with the European

2828
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,460
royalty and elites.

2829
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:42,720
He is a former Norwegian MP and a

2830
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,500
former foreign minister for Norway and was CEO

2831
01:44:45,500 --> 01:44:47,780
and president of the World Economic Forum until

2832
01:44:47,780 --> 01:44:48,540
this Thursday.

2833
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,660
Jørge Brende has resigned that role following a

2834
01:44:51,660 --> 01:44:54,340
series of revelations relating to his past contacts

2835
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:56,160
with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

2836
01:44:56,540 --> 01:44:59,380
After careful consideration, I've decided to step down

2837
01:44:59,380 --> 01:45:01,940
as president and CEO of the World Economic

2838
01:45:01,940 --> 01:45:02,320
Forum.

2839
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,600
My time here, spanning eight and a half

2840
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,920
years, has been profoundly rewarding.

2841
01:45:07,380 --> 01:45:10,060
The statement issued by the WEF made no

2842
01:45:10,060 --> 01:45:10,880
mention of Epstein.

2843
01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:13,960
Brende has told Norwegian media he was sorry

2844
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,880
about how he handled his dealings with the

2845
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:20,040
disgraced American financier, which included business dinners, and

2846
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,400
that he didn't want the issue to distract

2847
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:22,340
from the forum's work.

2848
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,320
Text messages from 2018 and 2019 released among

2849
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,980
the Epstein files appear to show a friendly

2850
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:32,480
tone between the two men, with Brende in

2851
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:36,800
one contact in March 2018 saying, Dear Jeff,

2852
01:45:37,020 --> 01:45:39,180
thanks for a very interesting dinner on Thursday.

2853
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:40,280
Food for thought.

2854
01:45:40,620 --> 01:45:41,720
You're a brilliant host.

2855
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,440
Warmly, Borga.

2856
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:44,320
Back in Geneva.

2857
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:44,860
Oh no!

2858
01:45:44,980 --> 01:45:47,040
Their last communication was a week before Epstein

2859
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,720
was arrested in 2019.

2860
01:45:49,660 --> 01:45:52,000
Mention in the Epstein files does not imply

2861
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:52,760
any wrongdoing.

2862
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,400
The former minister is one of several prominent

2863
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:58,140
Norwegians who have faced scrutiny following the latest

2864
01:45:58,140 --> 01:45:59,640
release of Epstein files.

2865
01:45:59,940 --> 01:46:03,140
Yes, and the scandal, the scandal is that

2866
01:46:03,140 --> 01:46:06,760
the Norwegian, the entire Norwegian press corps colluded

2867
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,900
with each other to repress the news of

2868
01:46:09,900 --> 01:46:14,200
former Prime Minister Jagland's attempted suicide in wake

2869
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:15,280
of the Epstein probe.

2870
01:46:15,380 --> 01:46:16,700
They kept it quiet for a week.

2871
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,240
I'm not quite sure why, but it's a

2872
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,020
big news scandal over there.

2873
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,460
I don't know why.

2874
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:23,940
Interesting.

2875
01:46:24,220 --> 01:46:25,680
Yeah, I don't know why they would do

2876
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:26,000
that.

2877
01:46:26,580 --> 01:46:28,720
Here's a typical France...

2878
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:29,960
They're in bed with the government.

2879
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:32,200
Gambling?

2880
01:46:33,420 --> 01:46:37,800
Here's your typical France 24 coverage of the

2881
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,100
Clinton hearing.

2882
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,600
This guy just, he's like, and he sounds

2883
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:44,740
like a showbiz guy.

2884
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,460
I'm not quite sure what they brought him

2885
01:46:46,460 --> 01:46:47,420
in, but he's up there.

2886
01:46:47,460 --> 01:46:51,420
He's in Chappaqua, Chappaquiddick, Chappaqua, wherever, New York,

2887
01:46:51,900 --> 01:46:54,780
upstate New York, where the Clintons gave their

2888
01:46:54,780 --> 01:46:55,360
testimony.

2889
01:46:56,380 --> 01:46:58,280
And he just throws the whole kitchen sink

2890
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:58,420
in.

2891
01:46:58,480 --> 01:46:59,620
Everything he's heard, like...

2892
01:46:59,620 --> 01:47:01,660
What were the biggest takeaways for you?

2893
01:47:02,300 --> 01:47:04,760
Well, you have to understand that this truly

2894
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,020
is political theater.

2895
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,680
When Representative Comer said that the hearings yesterday

2896
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,460
were predominant, he was right.

2897
01:47:11,620 --> 01:47:13,420
If you look at it from his perspective,

2898
01:47:13,860 --> 01:47:16,140
his perspective is that he has an audience

2899
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:18,480
of one, and that one is Donald Trump.

2900
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,800
Donald Trump wants to distract the American public.

2901
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:25,100
More specifically, he wants to distract the MAGA

2902
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:27,640
base from his own involvement.

2903
01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:30,960
Donald Trump was very clearly a good friend

2904
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,500
of Jeffrey Epstein.

2905
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,240
They broke publicly.

2906
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,520
But Donald Trump is much more vulnerable in

2907
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,140
the Epstein files, certainly than Hillary Clinton and

2908
01:47:40,140 --> 01:47:40,920
even Bill Clinton.

2909
01:47:41,420 --> 01:47:44,060
So the point here is to serve as

2910
01:47:44,060 --> 01:47:44,620
a distraction.

2911
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,220
Because the one thing Donald Trump can't allow...

2912
01:47:47,220 --> 01:47:47,860
I know!

2913
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:48,800
Isn't that amazing?

2914
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,640
How do you get from A to B

2915
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:52,520
in this case?

2916
01:47:52,860 --> 01:47:55,480
There's nothing but tons of photos of Clinton

2917
01:47:55,480 --> 01:48:01,100
wearing kimonos and Clinton in the tub with

2918
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:04,560
Ghislaine and Clinton here and Clinton there with

2919
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,120
some chick on his lap.

2920
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:09,380
He's much more vulnerable in the Epstein files,

2921
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:11,980
certainly than Hillary Clinton and even Bill Clinton.

2922
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:15,120
So the point here is to serve as

2923
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:15,680
a distraction.

2924
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,940
Because the one thing that Donald Trump can't

2925
01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:20,660
allow is for the MAGA base to fracture

2926
01:48:20,660 --> 01:48:21,800
over the Epstein files.

2927
01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:25,300
And there are people who are very important

2928
01:48:25,300 --> 01:48:26,100
to the MAGA base.

2929
01:48:26,460 --> 01:48:27,660
Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn.

2930
01:48:27,820 --> 01:48:29,260
They're talking about the...

2931
01:48:29,260 --> 01:48:29,360
What?

2932
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:30,820
What?

2933
01:48:31,820 --> 01:48:33,360
There are people very important in the MAGA

2934
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:33,680
base.

2935
01:48:33,780 --> 01:48:35,240
Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn.

2936
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,940
I would say they're the least important in

2937
01:48:37,940 --> 01:48:38,800
the MAGA base.

2938
01:48:39,420 --> 01:48:40,600
They're not in the base.

2939
01:48:41,220 --> 01:48:42,200
Not at all.

2940
01:48:42,460 --> 01:48:44,380
To fracture over the Epstein files.

2941
01:48:44,380 --> 01:48:47,860
And there are people who are very important

2942
01:48:47,860 --> 01:48:48,680
to the MAGA base.

2943
01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:50,240
Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn.

2944
01:48:50,340 --> 01:48:52,140
They're talking about the Epstein files.

2945
01:48:52,620 --> 01:48:54,000
Donald Trump wants them to be talking about

2946
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,820
the Epstein files and the Clintons rather than

2947
01:48:56,820 --> 01:48:58,360
the Epstein files and Donald Trump.

2948
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,900
Trump came out and said he didn't even

2949
01:49:02,900 --> 01:49:05,520
like the idea of Bill being there giving

2950
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:06,100
testimony.

2951
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:07,280
He made a point of it.

2952
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,340
And the Clintons rather than the Epstein files

2953
01:49:10,340 --> 01:49:13,260
and Donald Trump and specifically why Trump's Department

2954
01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:16,300
of Justice hasn't released the files that were

2955
01:49:16,300 --> 01:49:19,000
mentioned also that there's something like 50 pages

2956
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:23,160
of files on this most recent accusation from

2957
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:24,920
a woman who was a minor and she

2958
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:25,860
accuses...

2959
01:49:25,860 --> 01:49:28,480
This is the same tired old 1996.

2960
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:29,760
And this is the one you brought out

2961
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,380
and deconstructed in the last show.

2962
01:49:31,480 --> 01:49:34,280
This 13 year old supposed 13, 14 year

2963
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:34,720
old girl.

2964
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,480
Who withdrew the lawsuit themselves.

2965
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,960
Who did everything in advance of the election

2966
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,280
and once the election was underway then they

2967
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,020
pulled it because they didn't really have any

2968
01:49:43,020 --> 01:49:43,540
evidence.

2969
01:49:43,860 --> 01:49:45,780
President Trump of having committed some kind of

2970
01:49:45,780 --> 01:49:46,680
sexual assault again.

2971
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:47,600
That's not corroborated.

2972
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:49,000
That is the last thing.

2973
01:49:49,180 --> 01:49:50,100
Not corroborated.

2974
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:50,720
Not corroborated.

2975
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,600
How about the lawsuit was dropped.

2976
01:49:53,020 --> 01:49:53,400
Oh goodness.

2977
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,360
Trump of having committed some kind of sexual

2978
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:55,960
assault again.

2979
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:56,860
That's not corroborated.

2980
01:49:57,180 --> 01:49:59,540
That is the last thing Donald Trump wants

2981
01:49:59,540 --> 01:50:01,320
the MAGA base to be focused on.

2982
01:50:01,580 --> 01:50:02,220
Look over here.

2983
01:50:02,300 --> 01:50:04,140
Look over here at Hillary Clinton who he

2984
01:50:04,140 --> 01:50:06,300
still thinks I guess he thinks people are

2985
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:08,880
still obsessed with Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton

2986
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,020
who have not held public office for quite

2987
01:50:11,020 --> 01:50:11,560
some time.

2988
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,900
I'm surprised the guy didn't say well you

2989
01:50:13,900 --> 01:50:16,220
know it was so salacious that Trump decided

2990
01:50:16,220 --> 01:50:17,160
to bomb Iran.

2991
01:50:17,340 --> 01:50:19,560
I mean that's the only thing left that

2992
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:20,300
he could have said.

2993
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,200
It's crazy.

2994
01:50:22,580 --> 01:50:24,780
I'm surprised that hasn't been already said a

2995
01:50:24,780 --> 01:50:25,240
couple of times.

2996
01:50:25,260 --> 01:50:26,720
I'm sure we just haven't seen it yet.

2997
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:27,060
It's coming.

2998
01:50:27,620 --> 01:50:29,720
They have to do these things in order.

2999
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,700
So here's former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

3000
01:50:33,700 --> 01:50:40,180
wife to Bill and answering questions from giving

3001
01:50:40,180 --> 01:50:42,300
a statement and answering questions of the press

3002
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:45,680
after she and Bill testified behind closed doors.

3003
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,820
It was video recorded and will be transcribed.

3004
01:50:49,140 --> 01:50:52,080
Well I have just finished testifying.

3005
01:50:52,500 --> 01:50:56,560
I answered every one of their questions as

3006
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,760
fully as I could based on what I

3007
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,580
knew and what I knew is what I

3008
01:51:03,580 --> 01:51:05,860
said in my statement this morning.

3009
01:51:06,300 --> 01:51:09,920
I never met Jeffrey Epstein never had any

3010
01:51:10,980 --> 01:51:11,580
What?

3011
01:51:13,260 --> 01:51:15,520
There's a lot of pictures of you with

3012
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:16,340
Jeffrey Epstein.

3013
01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:17,380
Okay.

3014
01:51:17,660 --> 01:51:21,180
Yeah the problem is they've been salted with

3015
01:51:21,180 --> 01:51:22,560
fake pictures.

3016
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:23,220
Oh.

3017
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:25,500
Which are all over the place.

3018
01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:28,000
Like the one where she's holding is Titus.

3019
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:28,500
Yeah.

3020
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:29,060
That's fake.

3021
01:51:29,380 --> 01:51:29,480
Yeah.

3022
01:51:29,780 --> 01:51:29,920
Okay.

3023
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,120
Connection or communication with him.

3024
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:37,400
I knew Ghislaine Maxwell casually as an acquaintance

3025
01:51:37,700 --> 01:51:39,900
but whatever they asked me I did my

3026
01:51:39,900 --> 01:51:41,700
very best to respond.

3027
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,880
It was disappointing that they refused to hold

3028
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,720
a public hearing so I wouldn't have to

3029
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,800
be out here characterizing it for you.

3030
01:51:53,860 --> 01:51:55,260
You could have seen it for yourself.

3031
01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:58,740
We had asked for that.

3032
01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:01,180
We think it would have been better for

3033
01:52:01,180 --> 01:52:06,100
the committee and its efforts to gather whatever

3034
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:07,740
information they are seeking.

3035
01:52:08,340 --> 01:52:12,200
We had a bit of a challenge in

3036
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,540
the beginning because we agreed upon rules based

3037
01:52:15,540 --> 01:52:17,360
on the fact it was going to be

3038
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:21,980
a closed hearing at their demand and one

3039
01:52:21,980 --> 01:52:25,900
of the members violated that rule which was

3040
01:52:25,900 --> 01:52:30,880
very upsetting because it suggested that they might

3041
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,580
violate other of our agreements.

3042
01:52:34,020 --> 01:52:35,140
What do you think that was?

3043
01:52:35,220 --> 01:52:36,740
What do you think the violation was?

3044
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:38,020
It was the photo.

3045
01:52:39,420 --> 01:52:39,800
Luna.

3046
01:52:40,620 --> 01:52:43,160
Luna took her phone out and took a

3047
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,000
picture of Hillary talking and gave it to

3048
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,880
one of the bloggers some online guy and

3049
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:53,100
they posted it during the right during everyone

3050
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:55,520
has to break the news so they posted

3051
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,740
it right during the questioning and it got

3052
01:52:58,740 --> 01:52:59,720
right back to Hillary.

3053
01:52:59,900 --> 01:53:01,880
It's almost as though it was rigged to

3054
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:02,340
do this.

3055
01:53:03,140 --> 01:53:05,620
Something is fishy about the whole process.

3056
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,140
I'm not talking anymore.

3057
01:53:08,340 --> 01:53:10,420
You guys just broke the rules.

3058
01:53:10,820 --> 01:53:12,860
Well here's my favorite piece of what she

3059
01:53:12,860 --> 01:53:13,200
said.

3060
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,360
I don't know how many times I had

3061
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,700
to say I did not know Jeffrey Epstein.

3062
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,640
I never went to his island.

3063
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:22,300
I never went to his home.

3064
01:53:22,460 --> 01:53:23,940
I never went to his offices.

3065
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:27,660
So it's on the record numerous times.

3066
01:53:28,820 --> 01:53:33,500
It then got at the end quite unusual

3067
01:53:33,500 --> 01:53:38,560
because I started being asked about UFOs and

3068
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:42,200
a series of questions about PISAgate, one of

3069
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:46,140
the most vile, bogus conspiracy theories that was

3070
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:51,060
propagated on the internet that was serving as

3071
01:53:51,060 --> 01:53:54,440
the basis of members' questions to me.

3072
01:53:54,580 --> 01:53:56,600
I wonder if they asked her about Frazzledrip.

3073
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:58,620
That's the question.

3074
01:53:58,800 --> 01:53:59,980
What do you know about Frazzledrip?

3075
01:54:02,460 --> 01:54:03,280
Restate that.

3076
01:54:03,620 --> 01:54:04,840
Oh, Frazzledrip.

3077
01:54:05,060 --> 01:54:06,860
Is that about taking the skin off the

3078
01:54:06,860 --> 01:54:07,180
baby?

3079
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:10,920
Uma Abedin.

3080
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,320
They're taking skin off people and putting it

3081
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:14,060
on their own faces.

3082
01:54:14,060 --> 01:54:15,640
That Frazzledrip baby.

3083
01:54:15,860 --> 01:54:18,420
Saving from the silence of the lambs.

3084
01:54:19,580 --> 01:54:23,260
Final bit was a question from the press

3085
01:54:23,260 --> 01:54:27,020
about, well, but Ghislaine, was that Chelsea's wedding?

3086
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,260
Chelsea's wedding in 2013.

3087
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,100
She'd already been mentioned in a civil lawsuit

3088
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:37,280
by Virginia Chief Reporter Jeffrey Epstein already.

3089
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,020
She came as the first one, the guest

3090
01:54:42,020 --> 01:54:43,480
of someone who wasn't Biden.

3091
01:54:51,380 --> 01:54:54,040
I don't know when the video will be

3092
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:54,260
out.

3093
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,000
I don't know when the transcript will be

3094
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:56,240
out.

3095
01:54:56,340 --> 01:54:58,140
We've asked that they be out as quickly

3096
01:54:58,140 --> 01:55:01,760
as possible and then you can see everything.

3097
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,000
Listen to the very last one.

3098
01:55:12,020 --> 01:55:12,880
Oh, the poor woman.

3099
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,540
Why would she know about that anyway?

3100
01:55:15,140 --> 01:55:17,540
And the other thing is, the question that

3101
01:55:17,540 --> 01:55:19,020
would have come to mind if I was

3102
01:55:19,020 --> 01:55:21,240
out there is who is the plus one?

3103
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:22,820
A plus one of a guest that was

3104
01:55:22,820 --> 01:55:23,140
invited.

3105
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,020
Who was the guest?

3106
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:26,540
Jeffrey Epstein, of course.

3107
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:27,920
That's what it has to be.

3108
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:29,380
And with that, I'd like to thank you

3109
01:55:29,380 --> 01:55:29,920
for your courage.

3110
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:31,420
Say in the morning to you, the man

3111
01:55:31,420 --> 01:55:33,460
who put the C in the regime of

3112
01:55:33,460 --> 01:55:33,840
change.

3113
01:55:34,340 --> 01:55:35,980
Say hello to my friend on the other

3114
01:55:35,980 --> 01:55:38,380
end, the one and the only, Mr. John

3115
01:55:39,220 --> 01:55:39,700
Seymour.

3116
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,640
In the morning to the trolls in the

3117
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:48,200
troll room.

3118
01:55:48,340 --> 01:55:49,120
Hold up, misfire.

3119
01:55:49,180 --> 01:55:49,600
Here we go.

3120
01:55:49,780 --> 01:55:51,320
Oh yeah, look at that.

3121
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,360
There's nothing like a good bombing to bring

3122
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:56,720
the trolls back.

3123
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:58,460
Almost 2,300.

3124
01:55:59,500 --> 01:56:00,380
We're almost back.

3125
01:56:00,540 --> 01:56:01,020
That's right.

3126
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:01,720
More bombing.

3127
01:56:01,980 --> 01:56:03,060
More bombing, please.

3128
01:56:03,220 --> 01:56:04,220
It brings everybody back.

3129
01:56:04,540 --> 01:56:05,420
I know what it is.

3130
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,360
This is like the news business.

3131
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:13,180
Epitomized by nobody cares.

3132
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,720
There can be great stuff that we're doing

3133
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,080
on a twice a week basis.

3134
01:56:18,780 --> 01:56:19,220
No.

3135
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:21,960
We gotta have a bombing.

3136
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:25,320
Bombing works.

3137
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:27,960
Well, it'd be very interesting to see.

3138
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,480
We, of course, will continue to deconstruct everything

3139
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:31,760
as it comes in and as we see

3140
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:31,960
it.

3141
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,520
I'm glad that I'm home for these couple

3142
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:36,940
of weeks because there's just a lot.

3143
01:56:37,140 --> 01:56:37,960
There's a lot to consume.

3144
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:39,720
Yeah, you'd be in a bomb shelter right

3145
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:40,060
now.

3146
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:42,080
Yeah, with Sir Brian of London.

3147
01:56:42,340 --> 01:56:43,920
What are we doing here, man?

3148
01:56:47,020 --> 01:56:50,860
Anyway, thank you for being here, trolls, and

3149
01:56:50,860 --> 01:56:54,860
listening live at noagendastream.com or on those

3150
01:56:54,860 --> 01:56:58,800
fancy, very modern and sophisticated podcast apps.

3151
01:56:59,260 --> 01:57:02,360
Get them at podcastapps.com where not only

3152
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,440
can you get the show and be notified

3153
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,480
within 90 seconds when we release it, unlike

3154
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,200
the legacy apps, but when we go live,

3155
01:57:09,380 --> 01:57:10,980
you'll get a notification if you have that

3156
01:57:10,980 --> 01:57:12,600
enabled and you'll know that we're live.

3157
01:57:12,660 --> 01:57:14,100
You can listen in the same app.

3158
01:57:14,140 --> 01:57:15,180
How crazy is that?

3159
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:16,680
It's like modern day radio.

3160
01:57:16,820 --> 01:57:18,040
Listen live or on demand.

3161
01:57:18,580 --> 01:57:19,020
What?

3162
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,540
Have we improved your life somehow?

3163
01:57:21,780 --> 01:57:22,380
I think so.

3164
01:57:23,540 --> 01:57:24,540
So get one of those.

3165
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,920
At the same time, we are incorruptible because

3166
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:30,240
we don't take any advertising.

3167
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:31,840
We're not worried about audience capture.

3168
01:57:31,940 --> 01:57:32,780
We never have been.

3169
01:57:33,580 --> 01:57:36,740
You can all say, I'm not donating.

3170
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,080
I'm unsubscribing.

3171
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,520
It's okay because as long as there's enough

3172
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,720
people to keep us going, we'll keep doing

3173
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:43,940
it.

3174
01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:46,540
I love when people say, don't you realize

3175
01:57:46,540 --> 01:57:50,000
donations are down because you're wrong about Israel

3176
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:50,660
and the Jews?

3177
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,160
I said it like Cartman.

3178
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:54,020
The Jews?

3179
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:54,620
Yeah.

3180
01:57:55,940 --> 01:57:58,140
If you're on the right side of history,

3181
01:57:58,220 --> 01:57:59,080
you'd make more money.

3182
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:01,860
Where is the logic in that?

3183
01:58:02,700 --> 01:58:04,160
Where is the logic?

3184
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:06,920
We have always said what we thought.

3185
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:07,780
Always.

3186
01:58:09,020 --> 01:58:12,060
And the problem is, it's not even what

3187
01:58:12,060 --> 01:58:12,500
we thought.

3188
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:16,060
It's what we've developed by doing careful analysis.

3189
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:16,800
Yes.

3190
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:20,060
And the problem is, it's always eight years

3191
01:58:20,060 --> 01:58:20,420
later.

3192
01:58:20,620 --> 01:58:21,500
People go, you know.

3193
01:58:21,500 --> 01:58:24,380
You guys were right back in the day.

3194
01:58:24,700 --> 01:58:25,500
No, no one says that.

3195
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:26,180
They don't remember.

3196
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:27,420
It's a whole new generation.

3197
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:28,980
We remind them once in a while.

3198
01:58:28,980 --> 01:58:30,820
Our old listeners die off and they don't

3199
01:58:30,820 --> 01:58:31,220
remember.

3200
01:58:31,380 --> 01:58:32,920
We've got to tell the new people again

3201
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:33,860
how we've been through this.

3202
01:58:34,380 --> 01:58:36,780
We have been so many times, hey man,

3203
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:37,680
you should talk about this.

3204
01:58:37,780 --> 01:58:39,660
We talked about that five years ago.

3205
01:58:40,020 --> 01:58:40,820
That's our problem.

3206
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:42,580
Honestly, we should be bringing that stuff up

3207
01:58:42,580 --> 01:58:43,140
more often.

3208
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,180
Well, we can't overdo it because then you're

3209
01:58:45,180 --> 01:58:46,660
spiking the ball, spiking the ball.

3210
01:58:46,740 --> 01:58:47,180
It's boring.

3211
01:58:47,300 --> 01:58:47,640
It is.

3212
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:48,360
I agree.

3213
01:58:48,780 --> 01:58:49,620
So value for value.

3214
01:58:49,620 --> 01:58:53,400
That's how we decided to keep this, to

3215
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,320
keep the mothership here running, which means no

3216
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,460
levels, no plus packages, no bonus episodes, nothing

3217
01:59:00,460 --> 01:59:02,840
behind the paywall firewalls.

3218
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,180
In fact, let me play as a bonus

3219
01:59:06,180 --> 01:59:06,460
clip.

3220
01:59:06,500 --> 01:59:07,200
Uh oh, bonus clip.

3221
01:59:07,380 --> 01:59:08,440
Here's your bonus clip.

3222
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:09,880
NPR plus ad.

3223
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:12,640
NPR plus ad.

3224
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,920
How could your favorite NPR podcast get any

3225
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:16,220
better?

3226
01:59:16,340 --> 01:59:17,800
Well, what if it had bonus features such

3227
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:20,320
as extended interviews and zero sponsor breaks?

3228
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,880
There is a remarkably easy way to turn

3229
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:24,920
that fantasy into reality.

3230
01:59:25,060 --> 01:59:26,320
It's called NPR plus.

3231
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,000
You get perks across more than 25 NPR

3232
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,500
podcasts while supporting the teams that make them.

3233
01:59:31,820 --> 01:59:32,800
That's so insulting.

3234
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:34,380
Listen to the start of it.

3235
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:36,580
This is just insulting.

3236
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:39,640
How could your favorite NPR podcast get any

3237
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:39,940
better?

3238
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:41,540
Well, what if it had bonus features such

3239
01:59:41,540 --> 01:59:42,660
as extended interviews?

3240
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:43,560
Bonus features.

3241
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,720
You mean so you're giving us the crap,

3242
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:47,820
but if we pay you, then you'll give

3243
01:59:47,820 --> 01:59:48,160
us more?

3244
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:50,000
No, we don't subscribe to that.

3245
01:59:50,700 --> 01:59:52,780
We only want you to send us value

3246
01:59:52,780 --> 01:59:54,360
if you got value out of what we

3247
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:54,540
do.

3248
01:59:54,660 --> 01:59:56,340
If not, what are you doing?

3249
01:59:56,700 --> 01:59:57,840
Why are you even listening if you're getting

3250
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:57,940
it?

3251
01:59:57,980 --> 01:59:58,940
I mean, listen to hate listen.

3252
01:59:59,020 --> 01:59:59,840
I'm okay with that.

3253
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:01,560
But even hate listens is valuable.

3254
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:02,640
Yeah.

3255
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:03,020
Yeah.

3256
02:00:03,180 --> 02:00:05,380
We actually have hate listeners that donate once

3257
02:00:05,380 --> 02:00:05,760
in a while.

3258
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:06,680
Not that many.

3259
02:00:07,740 --> 02:00:08,780
My favorite kind.

3260
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:11,580
So you can support us with your time,

3261
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,680
your talent, or your treasure and we always

3262
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,000
thank people who support us with time and

3263
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:17,280
talent.

3264
02:00:17,380 --> 02:00:18,760
A lot of them want to be, stay

3265
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:20,920
anonymous like our, I can't even say his

3266
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:24,140
name anymore because even though it's a he's

3267
02:00:24,140 --> 02:00:25,680
a knight, but he doesn't he wants to

3268
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:26,500
be completely anonymous.

3269
02:00:26,500 --> 02:00:27,780
He's in the Middle East and we get

3270
02:00:27,780 --> 02:00:31,080
updates from him sometimes three times a day

3271
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:32,000
is what's going on.

3272
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:32,320
I think he's in Iran.

3273
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:34,800
I thought he was in Bahrain.

3274
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:36,820
You think he's in Iran?

3275
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:37,600
I'm not sure.

3276
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:41,620
He never says exactly where he is.

3277
02:00:41,700 --> 02:00:43,180
We got a lot of those guys.

3278
02:00:43,500 --> 02:00:45,340
He's an IT guy that happens to be.

3279
02:00:45,500 --> 02:00:47,020
Exactly where they are.

3280
02:00:47,860 --> 02:00:51,040
So we also thank people who contribute clips.

3281
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:53,040
Thank you Steve, Clip Collector.

3282
02:00:53,780 --> 02:00:55,720
People who do websites for us.

3283
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:58,820
Sir Dan over there doing the noagendameetups.com

3284
02:00:58,820 --> 02:01:01,680
and of course we have our No Agenda

3285
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,100
Art Generators for Paul Couture who created that

3286
02:01:04,100 --> 02:01:05,160
over a decade ago.

3287
02:01:05,260 --> 02:01:06,340
We've had several versions of it.

3288
02:01:06,380 --> 02:01:08,820
This one is praise God, very stable.

3289
02:01:08,820 --> 02:01:10,760
And this is where people help us out

3290
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:11,840
by creating artwork.

3291
02:01:11,940 --> 02:01:13,460
And don't forget to thank Void Zero because

3292
02:01:13,460 --> 02:01:15,360
he gets a little irked when we leave

3293
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:16,200
him out of the list.

3294
02:01:16,380 --> 02:01:18,940
I've been thanking him for 18 years.

3295
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:20,220
Not enough.

3296
02:01:20,620 --> 02:01:22,040
He's in the credits every season.

3297
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:24,000
Well it's true.

3298
02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:25,840
He likes to be mentioned.

3299
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:27,060
Did you finally call him?

3300
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:27,740
Is that what happened?

3301
02:01:28,020 --> 02:01:28,380
No.

3302
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:30,820
His email got kicked back.

3303
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:32,420
I told you that and I haven't followed

3304
02:01:32,420 --> 02:01:32,740
up.

3305
02:01:32,900 --> 02:01:34,600
I called Brunetti by the way.

3306
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:36,280
Oh finally.

3307
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:36,900
Yeah.

3308
02:01:38,540 --> 02:01:40,820
He was like, oh thanks for calling.

3309
02:01:41,140 --> 02:01:43,160
You think all of a sudden my life

3310
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,720
stops because some Hollywood big shot wants to

3311
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,020
talk to me about something?

3312
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:48,440
Podcasting?

3313
02:01:49,340 --> 02:01:50,880
It was actually quite a fun.

3314
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:52,060
We talked for over an hour.

3315
02:01:52,860 --> 02:01:53,980
He's a talkative guy.

3316
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:54,620
Yes.

3317
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:56,700
He says, this is usually what I do

3318
02:01:56,700 --> 02:01:57,160
with John.

3319
02:01:57,260 --> 02:01:59,220
I take a gummy and call Dvorak.

3320
02:01:59,360 --> 02:01:59,800
I'm like, oh.

3321
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:01,200
He does do that.

3322
02:02:01,420 --> 02:02:02,780
Once in a while he's done that.

3323
02:02:03,020 --> 02:02:03,980
And you can tell.

3324
02:02:04,980 --> 02:02:06,160
It's like, okay.

3325
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:07,760
It was great.

3326
02:02:08,060 --> 02:02:08,480
He's giggling.

3327
02:02:09,020 --> 02:02:11,780
Usually Alex is in the background chiding him.

3328
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:12,940
Telling him to get off the phone.

3329
02:02:12,940 --> 02:02:13,280
No.

3330
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:14,980
She's the one that tells him to call

3331
02:02:14,980 --> 02:02:15,200
you.

3332
02:02:15,300 --> 02:02:17,100
I think she's in love with you.

3333
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:18,260
Oh good.

3334
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:19,020
She should be.

3335
02:02:19,380 --> 02:02:21,040
There's something to be said about that.

3336
02:02:22,380 --> 02:02:25,140
We want to thank the artist for episode

3337
02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:28,720
1846 that was Nessworks who was a classic

3338
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:29,160
artist.

3339
02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:31,980
I'm pretty sure this was not an AI

3340
02:02:31,980 --> 02:02:33,020
piece that he did?

3341
02:02:34,860 --> 02:02:35,880
I don't think so.

3342
02:02:36,060 --> 02:02:37,380
Maybe it was done.

3343
02:02:37,780 --> 02:02:39,220
This could not have been.

3344
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:42,560
This was as controversial because this was one

3345
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:43,240
of these pieces.

3346
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:44,660
I had to agree with you.

3347
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:46,200
You're the one that pushed for this one.

3348
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,280
With the argument, which is hard to beat,

3349
02:02:51,780 --> 02:02:54,240
it's so different.

3350
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,380
We need something to vary the look.

3351
02:02:58,940 --> 02:03:02,000
It had to be done by hand.

3352
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,020
He did the No Agenda Files.

3353
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,700
How could AI even come up with the

3354
02:03:07,700 --> 02:03:08,200
idea?

3355
02:03:08,460 --> 02:03:08,720
No.

3356
02:03:09,660 --> 02:03:12,260
He even put Suffering Succotash in there.

3357
02:03:15,100 --> 02:03:16,100
Existential future.

3358
02:03:16,260 --> 02:03:17,140
It's a boondoggle.

3359
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:19,900
It's a nice piece.

3360
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:21,360
33 cents.

3361
02:03:22,740 --> 02:03:24,380
It just looks so different.

3362
02:03:24,540 --> 02:03:25,340
We liked it a lot.

3363
02:03:25,340 --> 02:03:26,660
Thank you very much, Nessworks.

3364
02:03:27,300 --> 02:03:29,680
That was for our episode 1846.

3365
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:31,440
We're titled Thumbstick Flick.

3366
02:03:32,340 --> 02:03:33,460
I want to just do a quick look

3367
02:03:33,460 --> 02:03:34,580
and see if there was anything.

3368
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:36,560
There were some other pieces we discussed, I'm

3369
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:36,960
quite sure.

3370
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:38,720
Yeah, there was a few decent ones.

3371
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,820
There was one I was pushing for.

3372
02:03:40,900 --> 02:03:42,600
I can't figure out which one it was.

3373
02:03:42,780 --> 02:03:44,180
I know which one it was.

3374
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,120
Let me scroll down here.

3375
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:54,260
We both thought the Kash Patel with the

3376
02:03:54,260 --> 02:03:57,440
bug eyes on the plane yelling bomb with

3377
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:58,960
the U.S. hockey team.

3378
02:03:59,580 --> 02:03:59,860
Yeah.

3379
02:04:00,380 --> 02:04:01,360
That was funny.

3380
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:03,380
That was funny, but it wasn't going to

3381
02:04:03,380 --> 02:04:03,900
be picked.

3382
02:04:04,140 --> 02:04:05,200
I kind of like Nessworks.

3383
02:04:06,700 --> 02:04:07,980
I like that.

3384
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:10,120
But that's because you're colorblind.

3385
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:14,880
Yes, I thought Dan Obgyn 4's butt plugs

3386
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:15,380
were humorous.

3387
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:17,700
Yeah, you had this thing.

3388
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:19,600
You're preoccupied with this.

3389
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:21,260
You should get on a gut-filled show.

3390
02:04:23,500 --> 02:04:26,160
Was there something else that you liked?

3391
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,900
It was between one or the other, if

3392
02:04:28,900 --> 02:04:29,420
I recall.

3393
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,000
You said this one or that one.

3394
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:31,820
I like the dog.

3395
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:32,940
The dog on the moon.

3396
02:04:34,340 --> 02:04:38,060
Back to faking moon with a little puppy.

3397
02:04:39,020 --> 02:04:40,460
What are those things they're called?

3398
02:04:42,060 --> 02:04:42,920
Pomeranian dog.

3399
02:04:43,380 --> 02:04:43,980
Pomeranian.

3400
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:46,860
That's his favorite.

3401
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,800
He likes butts and Pomeranian dogs.

3402
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:50,720
He does?

3403
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:51,840
He likes Pomeranians?

3404
02:04:52,020 --> 02:04:53,520
Oh, he loves Pomeranians.

3405
02:04:54,100 --> 02:04:56,140
They're the most annoying little dog.

3406
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,640
Here's some more bonus content speaking of the

3407
02:04:58,640 --> 02:04:58,900
moon.

3408
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:00,920
It was really a surprise announcement.

3409
02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:02,680
To be clear, NASA was always going to

3410
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,880
the moon, but now they've added even more

3411
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:05,220
flights.

3412
02:05:05,500 --> 02:05:06,260
I like that part.

3413
02:05:06,460 --> 02:05:08,520
NASA was always going to the moon, right?

3414
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:11,740
To be clear, NASA was always going to

3415
02:05:11,740 --> 02:05:13,920
the moon, but now they've added even more

3416
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:15,920
flights and they've changed Artemis 3.

3417
02:05:16,420 --> 02:05:18,060
Let me first tell you about Artemis 2.

3418
02:05:18,060 --> 02:05:19,980
That's the rocket we thought was going to

3419
02:05:19,980 --> 02:05:21,120
launch this month.

3420
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:22,380
Now they've moved it up to April.

3421
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,540
They've got to work on a technical issue

3422
02:05:24,540 --> 02:05:26,580
with a helium problem in the upper stage.

3423
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,480
Then they hopefully will launch that four-person

3424
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:32,000
crew around the moon, looping around the moon,

3425
02:05:32,540 --> 02:05:34,880
probably by the end of April or so.

3426
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,420
But what they did today was they announced

3427
02:05:37,420 --> 02:05:39,960
Artemis 3, which they said was going to

3428
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:40,620
land on the moon.

3429
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:41,540
It's not anymore.

3430
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:44,760
Artemis 3 will in fact be an orbital

3431
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:47,140
mission around the Earth because they want to

3432
02:05:47,140 --> 02:05:48,380
test out the systems.

3433
02:05:48,820 --> 02:05:52,320
Then they've added two more lunar landing missions,

3434
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:55,100
Artemis 4 and 5, and NASA says they

3435
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:56,220
will both go in 2028.

3436
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:00,080
The NASA chief today said they're really trying

3437
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,140
to pick up the pace and it's going

3438
02:06:02,140 --> 02:06:03,760
to start to feel like the old days

3439
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:04,280
of Apollo.

3440
02:06:04,420 --> 02:06:04,880
Take a listen.

3441
02:06:05,260 --> 02:06:06,940
If we're committed to going back to the

3442
02:06:06,940 --> 02:06:09,400
moon, we have the resources to do it.

3443
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,120
Again, we have a presidential mandate to get

3444
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:12,800
the job done.

3445
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,340
And what is an achievable strategy regardless of

3446
02:06:15,340 --> 02:06:17,160
the competition, and I can tell you launching

3447
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,780
every three plus years is not the right

3448
02:06:19,780 --> 02:06:20,580
approach.

3449
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,120
Oh, this is not the right approach.

3450
02:06:23,580 --> 02:06:25,660
Hey man, get one of those dune buggies

3451
02:06:25,660 --> 02:06:26,500
back on the moon.

3452
02:06:26,660 --> 02:06:27,280
Impress me.

3453
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:29,820
And ship it in a tin can like

3454
02:06:29,820 --> 02:06:31,160
you did 50 years ago.

3455
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:32,720
Okay, fine.

3456
02:06:33,620 --> 02:06:39,080
Now let us thank our financial producers, which

3457
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:39,840
you really are.

3458
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:41,820
You're a producer if you just help us

3459
02:06:41,820 --> 02:06:44,440
with content, boots on the ground, clips, artwork,

3460
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:46,120
anything that contributes to the show.

3461
02:06:46,380 --> 02:06:48,760
That's why you are listeners but we call

3462
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,240
you producers because we consider it an obligation

3463
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,540
that you contribute to the best podcast in

3464
02:06:53,540 --> 02:06:56,720
the universe and that way we always outdo

3465
02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:59,860
everybody because we have thousands of producers.

3466
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:01,460
That's just how it works.

3467
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:04,160
We thank everybody $50 and above.

3468
02:07:04,260 --> 02:07:05,600
We have a special spot for those who

3469
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:07,020
can afford $200 or more.

3470
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:10,000
You get a Hollywood credit, the associate executive

3471
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:11,900
producer, and you get to put that anywhere

3472
02:07:11,900 --> 02:07:14,460
credits are recognized, including imdb.com.

3473
02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:16,460
If you can afford $300 or more, then

3474
02:07:16,460 --> 02:07:18,080
you become an executive producer.

3475
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:20,020
That is exactly the way Hollywood works but

3476
02:07:20,020 --> 02:07:23,200
everything is appreciated any amount, any time, as

3477
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:24,960
long as it's because you felt you received

3478
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:26,700
value and you're sending it back.

3479
02:07:27,460 --> 02:07:31,000
And speaking of back, who is back with

3480
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,520
$2,447.

3481
02:07:33,980 --> 02:07:36,340
This is not his typical number.

3482
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:38,500
Did he do a 5 and a 2?

3483
02:07:38,740 --> 02:07:40,020
Did he have a $2 bill with a

3484
02:07:40,020 --> 02:07:40,320
5?

3485
02:07:40,420 --> 02:07:41,420
Is that what he did this time?

3486
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:46,520
No, he had 3 $3,200 bills and

3487
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:46,960
a 1.

3488
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:48,940
This is the first time ever there was

3489
02:07:48,940 --> 02:07:49,480
a 1.

3490
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:50,120
Hmm.

3491
02:07:52,060 --> 02:07:53,280
I decoded this.

3492
02:07:53,620 --> 02:07:54,880
Well, let me just first tell everyone.

3493
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:56,140
Yeah, read the note first.

3494
02:07:59,340 --> 02:08:01,520
He is a longtime supporter.

3495
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:05,260
He always feels that he gets tremendous value

3496
02:08:05,260 --> 02:08:07,700
and his notes are always interesting.

3497
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:12,060
The amounts he sends are always high and

3498
02:08:12,060 --> 02:08:14,040
code of some sort.

3499
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:16,000
And John has decoded this one.

3500
02:08:16,060 --> 02:08:17,160
I'm going to read his note first.

3501
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:21,480
$2,447 from Seronomous of Dogpatch in Lower

3502
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:22,000
Slobovia.

3503
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:25,880
Thank you to all reciprocal value contributors that

3504
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:28,860
elevate media deconstruction to such a high level.

3505
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:32,260
The first day of Ramadan coincides with the

3506
02:08:32,260 --> 02:08:35,720
Christian Ash Wednesday, something that happens every 33

3507
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:36,380
years.

3508
02:08:37,020 --> 02:08:39,900
I pray the two largest Abrahamic faiths help

3509
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:42,180
their believers find peace within themselves.

3510
02:08:42,780 --> 02:08:44,340
I think that is happening in Jerusalem.

3511
02:08:45,380 --> 02:08:48,060
Propaganda is not always about changing minds, but

3512
02:08:48,060 --> 02:08:51,220
also causing people to question their core beliefs.

3513
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:54,440
May this Ramadan and Lenten season be a

3514
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:57,500
time of peace, reflection, and reinforcement of core

3515
02:08:57,500 --> 02:09:00,760
beliefs for all producers despite efforts to have

3516
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:02,200
you question them.

3517
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:03,580
Ramadan Mubarak.

3518
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:05,080
No jingles, no karma.

3519
02:09:05,220 --> 02:09:05,620
Thank you.

3520
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:09,060
He always has a spiritual message of some

3521
02:09:09,060 --> 02:09:09,380
sort.

3522
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:12,280
And in this case, it is for Ramadan,

3523
02:09:12,500 --> 02:09:13,980
which he observes and celebrates.

3524
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,260
And of course for Lent.

3525
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:18,620
So he's in the Middle East or something.

3526
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,620
He knows something about something or other, I

3527
02:09:21,620 --> 02:09:21,900
think.

3528
02:09:21,940 --> 02:09:23,180
And now I'm going to start thinking about

3529
02:09:23,180 --> 02:09:24,260
these codes more often.

3530
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:26,800
This particular one, when I first looked at

3531
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,080
it, I said this is not his normal

3532
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:28,880
kind of number.

3533
02:09:29,660 --> 02:09:32,260
And I'm thinking, well, 24 is 2024, and

3534
02:09:32,260 --> 02:09:34,100
the 47th president was elected.

3535
02:09:36,260 --> 02:09:39,700
And that's like, but then I changed it

3536
02:09:39,700 --> 02:09:40,300
completely.

3537
02:09:41,340 --> 02:09:43,860
He knew what was going to happen on

3538
02:09:43,860 --> 02:09:44,720
Saturday.

3539
02:09:46,100 --> 02:09:48,280
This is a, these are two codes.

3540
02:09:48,780 --> 02:09:53,140
47 years of Islamic rule in...

3541
02:09:53,140 --> 02:09:57,940
And 24 is the police code for assignment

3542
02:09:57,940 --> 02:09:58,640
finished.

3543
02:09:58,900 --> 02:10:00,540
It's a defunct police code.

3544
02:10:00,660 --> 02:10:01,400
You can look it up.

3545
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:02,880
Code 24.

3546
02:10:03,180 --> 02:10:04,200
Code 24.

3547
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:05,360
Assignment over.

3548
02:10:05,540 --> 02:10:06,320
I'm done.

3549
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:07,140
We're done.

3550
02:10:08,660 --> 02:10:10,220
The 47th year.

3551
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:10,920
Done.

3552
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:12,080
And he sent it.

3553
02:10:12,140 --> 02:10:13,300
When did we receive this?

3554
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:13,960
He sent it.

3555
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:15,440
Well, it came in on Friday.

3556
02:10:15,660 --> 02:10:17,480
He sent it a week ago at least.

3557
02:10:17,620 --> 02:10:19,780
And he had to send it sometime earlier.

3558
02:10:20,140 --> 02:10:23,400
So this again, of course, epic what is

3559
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:23,780
it called?

3560
02:10:23,940 --> 02:10:25,780
Epic blow up or whatever the hell.

3561
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:27,280
Epic Fury.

3562
02:10:27,740 --> 02:10:30,620
Epic Fury was named way in advance.

3563
02:10:30,900 --> 02:10:33,120
This whole thing was planned, like I said.

3564
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:36,580
And this guy happened to be, he knew

3565
02:10:36,580 --> 02:10:38,200
about what was going on somehow.

3566
02:10:38,860 --> 02:10:41,660
And he sends us just a little subtle

3567
02:10:41,660 --> 02:10:42,280
message.

3568
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:44,040
Just wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

3569
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:45,960
That he knew about it.

3570
02:10:46,060 --> 02:10:46,920
And here it is.

3571
02:10:48,100 --> 02:10:48,620
2447.

3572
02:10:49,420 --> 02:10:50,280
Assignment over.

3573
02:10:50,420 --> 02:10:53,340
47 years of Islamic rule.

3574
02:10:53,780 --> 02:10:53,960
Nice.

3575
02:10:54,300 --> 02:10:56,220
In Iran.

3576
02:10:56,780 --> 02:10:57,220
Nice.

3577
02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:00,760
I have to say now, I think that's

3578
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:03,180
what, I think I've done it.

3579
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:04,640
And now I think I can crack all

3580
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:04,980
those codes.

3581
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:05,560
Alright, alright.

3582
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:07,680
We look forward to your next code as

3583
02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:08,020
always.

3584
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:08,500
Thank you.

3585
02:11:08,580 --> 02:11:10,420
Sir Anonymous of Dogpats in Lower Slobovia.

3586
02:11:10,900 --> 02:11:14,520
A long-term, high-value supporter and producer

3587
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:15,740
of the No Agenda podcast.

3588
02:11:16,900 --> 02:11:19,380
Now we have Brian Moss, who has written

3589
02:11:19,380 --> 02:11:21,280
before in Rancho Santa Maria.

3590
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:22,620
Or Margarita.

3591
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:24,000
Or whatever.

3592
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:25,600
I can't cut off here.

3593
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:26,160
Margarita.

3594
02:11:26,420 --> 02:11:26,860
Margarita.

3595
02:11:27,260 --> 02:11:28,440
Margarita in California.

3596
02:11:28,780 --> 02:11:30,720
Came in with a thousand with no note

3597
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:31,580
that I can find.

3598
02:11:31,740 --> 02:11:33,200
And it's not in my email.

3599
02:11:33,540 --> 02:11:34,300
It's not mine either.

3600
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:35,760
He usually sends it, doesn't he?

3601
02:11:35,820 --> 02:11:36,540
I've seen something.

3602
02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:38,040
Yeah, he does communicate.

3603
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:39,860
So we'll get a note from him eventually.

3604
02:11:40,300 --> 02:11:41,760
But this is a thousand dollars, so he

3605
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:43,320
gets a double up.

3606
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,260
You've got double up.

3607
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:46,640
Karma.

3608
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:50,720
And then Sir Salahouser.

3609
02:11:50,980 --> 02:11:53,800
Also someone who has certainly written notes before.

3610
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:54,900
Did something go wrong?

3611
02:11:54,900 --> 02:11:56,900
Sometimes PayPal doesn't do that right?

3612
02:11:57,020 --> 02:11:58,460
I mean, could that be what has happened

3613
02:11:58,460 --> 02:11:58,780
here?

3614
02:11:59,300 --> 02:11:59,940
I have no idea.

3615
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:00,640
It doesn't matter.

3616
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:03,720
We will gladly read your note after the

3617
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:03,980
fact.

3618
02:12:04,100 --> 02:12:05,300
And he's in Melbourne, Florida.

3619
02:12:05,380 --> 02:12:06,540
And he sends us $600.

3620
02:12:07,060 --> 02:12:09,020
Missing a note, so for now, a double

3621
02:12:09,020 --> 02:12:09,220
up.

3622
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:09,580
Karma.

3623
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:11,660
You've got double up.

3624
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:13,000
Karma.

3625
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:16,400
Sir Scobie is up in Charlotte, North Carolina.

3626
02:12:16,580 --> 02:12:18,260
It's 36392.

3627
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:20,460
Jingle request, dogs or people too.

3628
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,060
Please accept this donation at 34567.

3629
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:24,860
Get it?

3630
02:12:24,940 --> 02:12:25,660
34567.

3631
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:30,260
ITM from Charlotte where we assume it's a

3632
02:12:30,260 --> 02:12:31,380
matter of time.

3633
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:35,940
Just a matter of time before toxoplasmosis cat

3634
02:12:35,940 --> 02:12:39,280
owners rant on social media that the ring

3635
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:42,040
doorbell search party feature is for dogs only.

3636
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:43,780
It's an honor to be a producer of

3637
02:12:43,780 --> 02:12:46,100
the greatest podcast in the universe where else

3638
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:49,440
could one get superior media deconstruction and learn

3639
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:52,680
of the cultural significance of toxoplasmosis?

3640
02:12:53,660 --> 02:12:54,200
Nowhere.

3641
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:55,420
Nowhere, I tell you.

3642
02:12:55,500 --> 02:12:55,900
Nowhere.

3643
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:56,860
Actually, that's true.

3644
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:57,440
Nowhere.

3645
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:01,120
Thank you both for an outstanding product, Sir

3646
02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:01,640
Scobie.

3647
02:13:01,780 --> 02:13:03,040
P.S. Not a cat owner.

3648
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:05,760
Dogs or people too.

3649
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:11,940
A lot of notes, or a lot of

3650
02:13:11,940 --> 02:13:13,100
donations with no notes.

3651
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:16,040
Same goes for Richard Gelb in Danville, California.

3652
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,560
Also no stranger to the producer list.

3653
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:19,900
34375.

3654
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:21,220
Double up karma for you.

3655
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:24,700
You've got karma.

3656
02:13:27,900 --> 02:13:31,000
Sir Steve Weiss in Lost Wages, Nevada.

3657
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:31,640
Yes.

3658
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:34,900
333.33. This is a donation to add

3659
02:13:34,900 --> 02:13:38,560
my smoking hot wife Stephanie's trip to become

3660
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:39,080
a dame.

3661
02:13:39,220 --> 02:13:42,340
Her birthday was 227, and after 25 years,

3662
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:43,240
we never had a fight.

3663
02:13:43,380 --> 02:13:45,860
We keep hearing of the demise of Las

3664
02:13:45,860 --> 02:13:48,760
Vegas, yet do not really see it.

3665
02:13:49,220 --> 02:13:52,360
John and Adam, you have been rocks to

3666
02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:53,100
our lives.

3667
02:13:54,320 --> 02:13:55,600
I hope that's good.

3668
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:56,920
One hit me in the head the other

3669
02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:57,260
day.

3670
02:13:57,540 --> 02:14:01,700
And Stephanie is devising a drinking game to

3671
02:14:01,700 --> 02:14:04,160
her favorite John Fray's bull crap.

3672
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:05,260
Yes.

3673
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:07,280
Please give her a boogity, boogity, a biscuit

3674
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:07,920
for her birthday.

3675
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:10,820
Love and light Steve and Steph.

3676
02:14:15,980 --> 02:14:20,560
They always give me a biscuit on my

3677
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:21,000
birthday.

3678
02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:22,060
There you go.

3679
02:14:22,140 --> 02:14:22,600
Beautiful.

3680
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:25,500
Hey, then we have Sir Donald of the

3681
02:14:25,500 --> 02:14:29,480
Fire Bottles from Spokane Valley in Washington.

3682
02:14:29,780 --> 02:14:33,800
333.33. And he sends us a note

3683
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:36,880
which is as usual on...

3684
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:37,820
Oh, here it is.

3685
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:39,860
I misplaced his note.

3686
02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:43,520
This is on United Federation of Planets Starfleet

3687
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:44,260
Command letterhead.

3688
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:46,420
Gentlemen, we are now in the season of

3689
02:14:46,420 --> 02:14:49,160
Lent, a time of prayer, fasting, and alms

3690
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:49,440
giving.

3691
02:14:49,860 --> 02:14:52,040
I thus direct some of my alms to

3692
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:54,980
no agenda, a move made necessary by reduced

3693
02:14:54,980 --> 02:14:56,080
donations of late.

3694
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:58,020
Let me ease your poverty.

3695
02:14:58,500 --> 02:15:01,040
Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles, Secretary General

3696
02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:02,340
of Greater Idaho.

3697
02:15:02,660 --> 02:15:03,760
Thank you, Sir Donald.

3698
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:05,440
That is highly appreciated.

3699
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:07,560
Sir Nate the Rogue in Central Point, Oregon,

3700
02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:11,120
265 becomes the first Associate Executive Producer and

3701
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:13,560
he says, since the Mossad won't donate to

3702
02:15:13,560 --> 02:15:15,280
the show, somebody has to.

3703
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:17,580
No jingles, no karma.

3704
02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:19,180
Sir Nate the Rogue, Night of the Rogue

3705
02:15:19,180 --> 02:15:19,520
Valley.

3706
02:15:19,980 --> 02:15:22,520
P.S., have either of you tried any

3707
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:24,840
wines from Rogue Valley, Oregon?

3708
02:15:25,020 --> 02:15:27,600
It's a beautiful wine country with beautiful wine.

3709
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:31,680
Yes, I did, by chance, funny enough, in

3710
02:15:31,680 --> 02:15:33,940
a brand new Italian restaurant we have in

3711
02:15:33,940 --> 02:15:34,520
Fredericksburg.

3712
02:15:34,580 --> 02:15:35,860
I gotta tell you about this place, Con.

3713
02:15:36,140 --> 02:15:37,300
I'll tell you after the show.

3714
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:41,520
It's like a real Roman Italian who's coming.

3715
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:41,960
Hey!

3716
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:42,500
Yeah.

3717
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:43,800
Hey, bunch of galoop.

3718
02:15:44,380 --> 02:15:46,320
Valerio, Valerio taking care of you.

3719
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:46,700
It's good.

3720
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:47,600
It's good, yes.

3721
02:15:47,660 --> 02:15:49,980
And we had some from Oregon, from the

3722
02:15:49,980 --> 02:15:51,920
Oregon Rogue Valley.

3723
02:15:52,540 --> 02:15:53,600
They had it on the list.

3724
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:56,180
Yeah, I can't think of any I've had

3725
02:15:56,180 --> 02:15:58,120
from that particular area recently.

3726
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:00,120
Of course, we only had a glass, so

3727
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:01,580
I forget the name of it.

3728
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:03,860
And I think it's a fairly recent appellation.

3729
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:05,740
I don't think it's from 20 years ago.

3730
02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:06,300
No.

3731
02:16:07,500 --> 02:16:10,280
Hey, there's Dame Astrid and Sir Mark.

3732
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:14,180
They are the Archduchess and Archduke of Japan

3733
02:16:14,180 --> 02:16:16,440
in all disputed islands in the Japan Sea.

3734
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:19,220
222 and 22 cents.

3735
02:16:19,460 --> 02:16:23,160
They are also some of our longest standing

3736
02:16:23,160 --> 02:16:23,820
producers.

3737
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,160
They have been with us a long, long

3738
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:28,460
time and they are super famous and talented.

3739
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:31,320
Dear John and Adam, the recent second half

3740
02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:33,160
of the show was quite revealing to me.

3741
02:16:33,719 --> 02:16:35,600
I finally found out why I have a

3742
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:36,860
slightly longer neck.

3743
02:16:37,180 --> 02:16:38,120
I am part alien.

3744
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:39,900
You are the best.

3745
02:16:40,139 --> 02:16:42,459
Much love, Dame Astrid and Sir Mark.

3746
02:16:42,860 --> 02:16:45,200
Dame Astrid, we knew this.

3747
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:47,080
It's like, it's one of your appeals.

3748
02:16:47,260 --> 02:16:48,620
That's one of the things we love about

3749
02:16:48,620 --> 02:16:48,780
you.

3750
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:51,080
We know that you're an alien and you

3751
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:53,520
too are welcome in NOAA Agenda Nation.

3752
02:16:53,580 --> 02:16:55,860
I wonder if she has RH negative blood.

3753
02:16:56,559 --> 02:16:57,740
Oh, that's a good question.

3754
02:16:58,559 --> 02:16:59,879
She will answer it, I'm sure.

3755
02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:03,860
Just to part the alien thing, RH negative

3756
02:17:03,860 --> 02:17:06,860
blood has always been a mystery to science

3757
02:17:06,860 --> 02:17:13,959
because RH stands for rhesus monkey and our

3758
02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:14,480
primate.

3759
02:17:14,540 --> 02:17:15,940
I take it back, Dame Astrid.

3760
02:17:16,020 --> 02:17:16,620
You're not a monkey.

3761
02:17:17,379 --> 02:17:23,139
Ancestors and their rhesus monkey aspect to the

3762
02:17:23,139 --> 02:17:25,879
blood is missing in RH negative people.

3763
02:17:26,820 --> 02:17:28,900
A very small portion of the population is

3764
02:17:28,900 --> 02:17:31,760
RH negative and there seems to be no

3765
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:36,100
relationship to our primate ancestors with these folks.

3766
02:17:37,520 --> 02:17:38,440
You look into it.

3767
02:17:38,459 --> 02:17:39,540
Something worth checking out.

3768
02:17:40,020 --> 02:17:41,760
Eli the Coffee Guy is up in Bentonville,

3769
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,580
Illinois at 2.03.01 and he sent

3770
02:17:44,580 --> 02:17:46,180
in a very lengthy note.

3771
02:17:46,379 --> 02:17:48,520
This is just the part he wanted read

3772
02:17:48,520 --> 02:17:50,879
and it had all kinds of complimentary stuff

3773
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:51,879
about the two of us.

3774
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:55,000
I should forward it to you.

3775
02:17:55,219 --> 02:17:56,680
Yes, please do.

3776
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:59,139
It is finally time I humbly ask to

3777
02:17:59,139 --> 02:18:00,719
be declared a Knight of the NOAA Agenda

3778
02:18:00,719 --> 02:18:01,260
Roundtable.

3779
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:04,480
Today, March 1st, marks my 46th trip around

3780
02:18:04,480 --> 02:18:06,459
the sun and I cannot think of a

3781
02:18:06,459 --> 02:18:06,879
better way.

3782
02:18:06,940 --> 02:18:08,040
I don't know if he's on the birthday

3783
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:08,340
list.

3784
02:18:08,340 --> 02:18:08,500
He is.

3785
02:18:08,580 --> 02:18:09,320
Oh yeah, he is.

3786
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:09,799
Okay.

3787
02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:11,459
I cannot think of a better way to

3788
02:18:11,459 --> 02:18:12,680
celebrate than a knighthood.

3789
02:18:13,860 --> 02:18:16,260
In his earlier, the long part of his

3790
02:18:16,260 --> 02:18:17,959
note, he talked about how he could have

3791
02:18:17,959 --> 02:18:19,180
been a knight a while ago.

3792
02:18:19,240 --> 02:18:20,540
I think it's in here somewhere.

3793
02:18:20,559 --> 02:18:20,860
I would think.

3794
02:18:21,240 --> 02:18:23,520
It would not be proper celebration without my

3795
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:25,820
amazing wife, Jen, by my side as a

3796
02:18:25,820 --> 02:18:26,040
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3798
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3799
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3805
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3849
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3893
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3894
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3895
02:22:25,900 --> 02:22:29,120
that, we will gladly vouch for you.

3896
02:22:32,700 --> 02:22:35,060
This was a piece of interesting news that

3897
02:22:35,060 --> 02:22:36,500
I got from CBS.

3898
02:22:36,860 --> 02:22:39,000
I want to ask you about another standoff

3899
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:41,440
between the Pentagon and Anthropic.

3900
02:22:41,700 --> 02:22:42,900
She's talking to Mike Turner.

3901
02:22:43,340 --> 02:22:45,800
Which is the only AI company whose products

3902
02:22:45,800 --> 02:22:48,020
are used in classified systems for things like

3903
02:22:48,020 --> 02:22:51,020
target ID, Intel assessments, and battlefield simulations.

3904
02:22:51,580 --> 02:22:53,660
This morning, the Wall Street Journal is reporting

3905
02:22:53,660 --> 02:22:57,200
that their AI was in fact used in

3906
02:22:57,200 --> 02:22:59,840
these operations, even though Secretary Hegseth and Trump

3907
02:22:59,840 --> 02:23:01,340
ordered it to be cut off due to

3908
02:23:01,340 --> 02:23:03,660
this contractual dispute over the use of the

3909
02:23:03,660 --> 02:23:03,980
model.

3910
02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:07,580
Anthropic's CEO told CBS in an exclusive interview

3911
02:23:07,580 --> 02:23:10,220
that it is up to Congress to act

3912
02:23:10,220 --> 02:23:13,980
here to really create clarity as to how

3913
02:23:13,980 --> 02:23:15,300
AI can be used.

3914
02:23:15,960 --> 02:23:18,220
It's clearly essential if the Pentagon's still using

3915
02:23:18,220 --> 02:23:19,240
it in this operation.

3916
02:23:19,500 --> 02:23:20,720
Will Congress act here?

3917
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:22,980
This is something that they're going to have

3918
02:23:22,980 --> 02:23:24,820
to deal with and come to Congress for.

3919
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:30,500
Obviously, in this particular circumstances, I'm unaware of

3920
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:32,300
this particular issue.

3921
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:33,460
This is going to have to be something

3922
02:23:33,460 --> 02:23:35,040
that's going to have to be dealt with

3923
02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:37,960
in more detail than obviously an interview on

3924
02:23:37,960 --> 02:23:38,220
CBS.

3925
02:23:38,460 --> 02:23:39,580
Humming, humming, humming.

3926
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:41,160
You got no answer because you have no

3927
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:42,100
idea what's going on.

3928
02:23:42,140 --> 02:23:43,360
But this thing is heating up.

3929
02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:45,960
Here is the Yahoo financial team.

3930
02:23:46,220 --> 02:23:49,920
The lady from Axios explains what the feud

3931
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:52,340
is between the Department of War and Anthropic.

3932
02:23:52,720 --> 02:23:55,200
Here's what's at the heart of this dispute

3933
02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:55,800
right now.

3934
02:23:56,220 --> 02:23:58,280
The Pentagon essentially wants to be able to

3935
02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:01,540
use Anthropic's AI model, Claude.

3936
02:24:01,660 --> 02:24:03,520
However, it sees fit.

3937
02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:05,100
It doesn't want to be in a position

3938
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:06,760
where every single time it has to do

3939
02:24:06,760 --> 02:24:09,300
an operation or do something of national security

3940
02:24:10,220 --> 02:24:11,840
concerns, it has to check in with a

3941
02:24:11,840 --> 02:24:13,780
company and make sure that it's following that

3942
02:24:13,780 --> 02:24:15,960
company's specific safeguards.

3943
02:24:15,960 --> 02:24:18,620
The problem with that is that Anthropic has

3944
02:24:18,620 --> 02:24:21,040
two very clear red lines with its usage

3945
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,820
policies that it does not want crossed, even

3946
02:24:23,820 --> 02:24:28,180
by the Pentagon, which are mass surveillance of

3947
02:24:28,180 --> 02:24:30,060
Americans and autonomous weapons.

3948
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:32,200
The Pentagon is not having that.

3949
02:24:32,320 --> 02:24:33,580
They're saying we should be able to use

3950
02:24:33,580 --> 02:24:35,920
their technology the way that we want, and

3951
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:38,180
that is what it's setting up a Friday

3952
02:24:38,180 --> 02:24:38,640
deadline.

3953
02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:41,640
We know that Claude was used during the

3954
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:42,840
Maduro raid, right?

3955
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:45,180
So it was a very successful operation from

3956
02:24:45,180 --> 02:24:45,700
the Pentagon.

3957
02:24:46,140 --> 02:24:46,740
Claude was used.

3958
02:24:46,760 --> 02:24:49,900
I'd like to know what exactly it was

3959
02:24:49,900 --> 02:24:51,000
used for, right?

3960
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:54,900
This is the fuzzy stuff.

3961
02:24:54,980 --> 02:24:56,140
Well, we know it was used in the

3962
02:24:56,140 --> 02:24:57,160
Maduro raid, right?

3963
02:24:57,400 --> 02:24:58,720
No, I didn't know that.

3964
02:24:58,860 --> 02:25:00,260
And how was it used?

3965
02:25:00,620 --> 02:25:02,480
Did they ask a question like, is now

3966
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:03,080
a good time?

3967
02:25:03,320 --> 02:25:05,420
I mean, what exactly was it used for?

3968
02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:07,840
And that is what it's setting up a

3969
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:08,580
Friday deadline.

3970
02:25:08,980 --> 02:25:11,580
We know that Claude was used during the

3971
02:25:11,580 --> 02:25:12,060
Maduro raid.

3972
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:12,560
Hold on a second.

3973
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:13,160
One more thing.

3974
02:25:14,080 --> 02:25:16,500
If you can say, if the person says

3975
02:25:16,500 --> 02:25:20,400
we know that it has been used for...

3976
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:20,920
Good point.

3977
02:25:21,860 --> 02:25:25,140
If you know, then you can answer the

3978
02:25:25,140 --> 02:25:26,860
question, well, then how was it used?

3979
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:30,140
Your exact question should be reiterated.

3980
02:25:30,540 --> 02:25:33,320
If you know it was used, then how

3981
02:25:33,320 --> 02:25:33,720
was it used?

3982
02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:34,820
Well, we don't know how it was used.

3983
02:25:34,860 --> 02:25:35,760
We just know it was used.

3984
02:25:36,020 --> 02:25:37,700
Well, then you don't know anything.

3985
02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:39,980
...setting up a Friday deadline.

3986
02:25:39,980 --> 02:25:42,960
We know that Claude was used during the

3987
02:25:42,960 --> 02:25:44,160
Maduro raid, right?

3988
02:25:44,420 --> 02:25:46,540
So it was a very successful operation from

3989
02:25:46,540 --> 02:25:47,020
the Pentagon.

3990
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:48,180
Claude was used.

3991
02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:49,380
There were no hiccups there.

3992
02:25:50,260 --> 02:25:52,540
Hiccups, a new word for bug.

3993
02:25:53,740 --> 02:25:55,020
Hiccups is the new glitch.

3994
02:25:55,180 --> 02:25:56,320
No word for glitch.

3995
02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:57,600
Yeah, new word for glitch.

3996
02:25:57,620 --> 02:25:57,980
Hiccups.

3997
02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:00,560
So it was a very successful operation from

3998
02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:01,000
the Pentagon.

3999
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:02,180
Claude was used.

4000
02:26:02,340 --> 02:26:03,400
There were no hiccups there.

4001
02:26:03,960 --> 02:26:05,900
And, of course, the public doesn't know how

4002
02:26:05,900 --> 02:26:08,760
this technology is being used in classified settings,

4003
02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:10,840
but we can surmise that there was no

4004
02:26:10,840 --> 02:26:12,680
need for mass surveillance and there was no

4005
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:14,020
need for autonomous weapons.

4006
02:26:15,320 --> 02:26:18,400
Anthropic usage policies were not violated, and yet

4007
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:20,060
the Pentagon was able to carry out a

4008
02:26:20,060 --> 02:26:21,140
very successful operation.

4009
02:26:21,160 --> 02:26:21,500
Wait a minute.

4010
02:26:21,580 --> 02:26:23,900
So the Pentagon has to read the terms

4011
02:26:23,900 --> 02:26:25,680
of service before using Claude?

4012
02:26:25,720 --> 02:26:27,220
Is that what I'm hearing her say, right?

4013
02:26:27,660 --> 02:26:29,900
The second thing here, with regard to the

4014
02:26:29,900 --> 02:26:32,320
all lawful purposes standard that the Pentagon is

4015
02:26:32,320 --> 02:26:34,780
trying to have, not just Anthropic, but all

4016
02:26:34,780 --> 02:26:36,840
of the AI labs adhere to, is that

4017
02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:40,100
the law right now doesn't necessarily contemplate all

4018
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:41,220
of AI's applications.

4019
02:26:41,500 --> 02:26:44,340
In the case of mass surveillance, for example,

4020
02:26:44,540 --> 02:26:47,200
it is legal today for the government to

4021
02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:49,160
collect data that is public.

4022
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:52,600
So, for example, social media posts, concealed carry

4023
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:55,740
permits, if you attended a rally or a

4024
02:26:55,740 --> 02:27:00,260
protest, voter registration rolls, the government can legally

4025
02:27:00,260 --> 02:27:02,780
collect all of that data and then you

4026
02:27:02,780 --> 02:27:06,980
can imagine how injecting artificial intelligence can supercharge

4027
02:27:06,980 --> 02:27:11,500
the in real time continuous analysis of that

4028
02:27:11,500 --> 02:27:14,960
data to specifically target and surveil people, and

4029
02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:17,700
that is kind of what is alarming, you

4030
02:27:17,700 --> 02:27:19,980
know, not just Anthropic, but civil liberties groups

4031
02:27:19,980 --> 02:27:22,640
and folks on Capitol Hill as well.

4032
02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:24,000
This is nonsense.

4033
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:26,460
Who is this woman?

4034
02:27:26,740 --> 02:27:27,620
She's from Axios.

4035
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:29,540
This is nonsense.

4036
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:31,280
This stuff is no good.

4037
02:27:32,580 --> 02:27:33,260
It's not.

4038
02:27:33,400 --> 02:27:35,780
It's a language guesser.

4039
02:27:36,140 --> 02:27:37,320
That's all that it does.

4040
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:39,180
Oh man, I've had so many problems with

4041
02:27:39,180 --> 02:27:39,620
this thing.

4042
02:27:40,140 --> 02:27:40,940
With Gemini.

4043
02:27:40,960 --> 02:27:41,920
Here we go.

4044
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:42,400
Yeah.

4045
02:27:42,960 --> 02:27:45,900
I now have 25 guardrails.

4046
02:27:47,560 --> 02:27:49,720
You know, it's like, look up the song

4047
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:50,780
by Jamie Macdonald.

4048
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:52,220
I can't find Jamie Macdonald.

4049
02:27:52,380 --> 02:27:55,660
Well, yeah you can, because look for me

4050
02:27:55,660 --> 02:27:56,440
in this folder.

4051
02:27:56,540 --> 02:27:57,600
Oh, there's Jamie Macdonald.

4052
02:27:58,000 --> 02:27:59,080
Why couldn't you find it?

4053
02:27:59,080 --> 02:28:00,260
Well, you misspelled it.

4054
02:28:00,320 --> 02:28:02,400
Well, what kind of smart person are you?

4055
02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:04,860
Where's the I in your AI?

4056
02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:07,620
This kind of stuff.

4057
02:28:08,540 --> 02:28:11,360
Well, the tool you gave me doesn't exact,

4058
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:12,840
so you can't do anything.

4059
02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:17,160
Any idiot human being who only takes three

4060
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:19,580
watts of power to keep their brain moving

4061
02:28:19,580 --> 02:28:21,440
can look at a folder of files and

4062
02:28:21,440 --> 02:28:22,140
say, oh, Jamie Macdonald.

4063
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:24,360
Oh, he put M.C. Donald instead of

4064
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:25,300
M.A.C. Donald.

4065
02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:28,080
Well, he must mean that.

4066
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:28,440
No.

4067
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:31,260
Artificial intelligence can't figure that out.

4068
02:28:31,960 --> 02:28:33,220
You see what I'm saying, Holmes?

4069
02:28:33,900 --> 02:28:35,100
This stuff is no good.

4070
02:28:35,780 --> 02:28:36,200
Holmes.

4071
02:28:37,220 --> 02:28:38,640
I thought I'd throw that in.

4072
02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:40,140
Meanwhile, Sam...

4073
02:28:40,140 --> 02:28:42,960
By the way, since you introduced that kind

4074
02:28:42,960 --> 02:28:46,160
of little flippant remark, I have to interrupt

4075
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:48,240
the clippage here with the clip I have.

4076
02:28:48,580 --> 02:28:48,880
Okay.

4077
02:28:49,520 --> 02:28:50,760
I don't know, have you heard, did you

4078
02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:54,120
hear Newsom go on about his 960 SAT

4079
02:28:54,120 --> 02:28:54,800
score?

4080
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:56,400
He was talking to an Atlanta audience.

4081
02:28:56,580 --> 02:28:58,040
I saw a little bit of it, yeah.

4082
02:28:58,220 --> 02:28:59,200
Yeah, he's going on.

4083
02:28:59,480 --> 02:29:04,000
By the way, bragging about a 960 SAT

4084
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:07,280
score just tells everybody in the country he's

4085
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:07,780
a dummy.

4086
02:29:08,260 --> 02:29:11,620
That is a dummy's score for the SAT.

4087
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:13,240
So who wants him to be president?

4088
02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:14,500
Why would you do that?

4089
02:29:14,920 --> 02:29:16,240
Why would you say that I'm a big

4090
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:16,700
dummy?

4091
02:29:17,280 --> 02:29:18,600
And he says he can't read.

4092
02:29:18,900 --> 02:29:20,260
Well, I think they left out the best

4093
02:29:20,260 --> 02:29:21,640
part of this whole thing, because I have

4094
02:29:21,640 --> 02:29:24,500
a clip of Newsom in Atlanta that's, I

4095
02:29:24,500 --> 02:29:25,540
think, a little more revealing.

4096
02:29:25,820 --> 02:29:27,440
You know, I'm basically one of you.

4097
02:29:28,040 --> 02:29:29,740
I mean, I got a terrible credit score.

4098
02:29:30,420 --> 02:29:32,380
Sometimes when I go to Red Lobster, I

4099
02:29:32,380 --> 02:29:33,580
get up and leave without paying.

4100
02:29:34,340 --> 02:29:35,860
You hear that fire alarm beep?

4101
02:29:36,260 --> 02:29:36,760
Me neither.

4102
02:29:37,460 --> 02:29:39,480
I like to talk loud in movie theaters.

4103
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:41,680
Love me some fried chicken.

4104
02:29:41,880 --> 02:29:42,800
You know what I'm saying, brother?

4105
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:45,320
I got many baby daddies.

4106
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:47,180
I mean, baby mamas.

4107
02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:49,220
I got many baby mamas.

4108
02:29:49,220 --> 02:29:51,760
I just fought at a Waffle House last

4109
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:52,540
week, bruh.

4110
02:29:52,600 --> 02:29:54,780
We're hanging out at the barbershop every day,

4111
02:29:54,860 --> 02:29:55,100
son.

4112
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:55,980
No cap.

4113
02:29:56,680 --> 02:29:58,400
I keeps it real up in this biatch.

4114
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:05,040
Again, well worth the $110 billion that Sam

4115
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:07,680
Altman just raised on this.

4116
02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:09,380
New revenue has got to come into this

4117
02:30:09,380 --> 02:30:09,660
system.

4118
02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:11,280
People can invest in each other and buy

4119
02:30:11,280 --> 02:30:12,960
each other stuff, whatever, but if there's not

4120
02:30:12,960 --> 02:30:15,040
new revenue coming in, that's when you get

4121
02:30:15,040 --> 02:30:16,400
into there's nothing here.

4122
02:30:16,900 --> 02:30:19,100
But revenue is growing so fast, not just

4123
02:30:19,100 --> 02:30:20,360
for us, but the whole ecosystem.

4124
02:30:20,860 --> 02:30:23,320
There's like a massive amount of revenue coming

4125
02:30:23,320 --> 02:30:23,540
in.

4126
02:30:23,860 --> 02:30:29,420
You look at this guy, he's such a

4127
02:30:29,420 --> 02:30:29,700
dud.

4128
02:30:30,340 --> 02:30:31,600
He's uninteresting.

4129
02:30:31,760 --> 02:30:34,140
He doesn't seem like much of a personality.

4130
02:30:34,740 --> 02:30:36,280
He has got to be one of the

4131
02:30:36,280 --> 02:30:39,120
greatest salespeople in the history of sales.

4132
02:30:40,340 --> 02:30:44,500
And I just don't understand how he's at

4133
02:30:44,500 --> 02:30:46,280
some level that's cosmic.

4134
02:30:47,020 --> 02:30:50,340
It's the same as Sam Bankman-Freed.

4135
02:30:50,740 --> 02:30:53,040
He picked up hundreds of millions of dollars

4136
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:54,340
by doing the same thing.

4137
02:30:55,040 --> 02:30:56,200
I'm complicated.

4138
02:30:56,400 --> 02:30:57,100
I'm such a genius.

4139
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:02,700
To me, it's remarkable.

4140
02:31:03,180 --> 02:31:05,460
This is a moment in time that we

4141
02:31:05,460 --> 02:31:08,320
should cherish to witness this.

4142
02:31:08,740 --> 02:31:10,540
It's a moment in time for us to

4143
02:31:10,540 --> 02:31:13,060
get all dumb and go raise some money

4144
02:31:13,060 --> 02:31:13,720
for this show.

4145
02:31:14,500 --> 02:31:17,840
If only we could save the universe.

4146
02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:20,680
If we could just expand No Agenda.

4147
02:31:22,340 --> 02:31:24,980
I think that really, if we each had

4148
02:31:24,980 --> 02:31:26,300
a jet, it would just make the show

4149
02:31:26,300 --> 02:31:27,280
much, much better.

4150
02:31:27,880 --> 02:31:29,100
If we each had a jet.

4151
02:31:30,500 --> 02:31:32,580
Just for us, but the whole ecosystem.

4152
02:31:33,080 --> 02:31:35,740
There's a massive amount of revenue coming in

4153
02:31:35,740 --> 02:31:37,240
to support all of this infrastructure.

4154
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:38,680
I don't worry about that part.

4155
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:42,480
Don't worry about Don't worry about that part.

4156
02:31:42,700 --> 02:31:43,620
Don't worry about the money.

4157
02:31:45,160 --> 02:31:46,560
Hey, look over here.

4158
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:47,740
Don't worry about the money.

4159
02:31:48,740 --> 02:31:51,440
There's a massive amount of revenue coming in

4160
02:31:51,440 --> 02:31:52,940
to support all of this infrastructure.

4161
02:31:53,460 --> 02:31:54,400
I don't worry about that part.

4162
02:31:55,280 --> 02:31:58,440
In terms of It's the only part we're

4163
02:31:58,440 --> 02:31:59,480
worried about, Sam.

4164
02:31:59,920 --> 02:32:02,500
There's not enough money coming in to cover

4165
02:32:02,500 --> 02:32:03,100
the cost.

4166
02:32:04,020 --> 02:32:06,940
In terms of any one layer of the

4167
02:32:06,940 --> 02:32:08,640
stack failing would cause some real knock-on

4168
02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:10,000
effects, and it's sort of like a very

4169
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:11,040
tight supply chain right now.

4170
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:11,780
I do worry about that.

4171
02:32:12,240 --> 02:32:13,460
In terms of not being able to get

4172
02:32:13,460 --> 02:32:16,020
access to certain technologies, i.e. chips?

4173
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:17,440
Yeah, something like that.

4174
02:32:18,260 --> 02:32:20,520
The other part of their concerns, some have

4175
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:23,620
criticized the valuation OpenAI has got and said,

4176
02:32:23,700 --> 02:32:25,340
well, there's intense competition.

4177
02:32:25,660 --> 02:32:27,100
We've seen things like the deep-seek moment

4178
02:32:27,100 --> 02:32:29,300
can disrupt markets as well.

4179
02:32:29,860 --> 02:32:32,060
Your valuation, do you think it's justified?

4180
02:32:32,680 --> 02:32:33,740
I think so.

4181
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:36,800
That's up to a market to decide, but

4182
02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:37,200
I think so.

4183
02:32:37,200 --> 02:32:39,760
And the path to profitability eventually, what does

4184
02:32:39,760 --> 02:32:40,640
that look like for OpenAI?

4185
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:46,180
We are growing at an extremely fast rate.

4186
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:48,460
Right now, I think, as long as we

4187
02:32:48,460 --> 02:32:50,400
can have reasonable unit economics, we should focus

4188
02:32:50,400 --> 02:32:52,000
on continuing to grow faster and faster.

4189
02:32:53,640 --> 02:32:55,960
And we'll get profitable when we think it

4190
02:32:55,960 --> 02:32:57,000
makes sense.

4191
02:32:57,160 --> 02:33:01,540
What we have to realize and enjoy this

4192
02:33:01,540 --> 02:33:06,280
moment is this is the biggest demo and

4193
02:33:06,280 --> 02:33:09,700
longest demo that has ever existed in the

4194
02:33:09,700 --> 02:33:10,980
history of Silicon Valley.

4195
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:13,740
John, this stuff is a hoax.

4196
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:18,020
They're not going to get...

4197
02:33:18,020 --> 02:33:19,200
I like the way you think of it

4198
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:20,200
as a hoax.

4199
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:22,600
Well, because it's, okay.

4200
02:33:23,420 --> 02:33:24,180
It's great.

4201
02:33:24,660 --> 02:33:26,080
I'm on board.

4202
02:33:26,300 --> 02:33:28,260
The hoax is we're going just a little

4203
02:33:28,260 --> 02:33:28,900
more power.

4204
02:33:29,220 --> 02:33:30,620
I'm enjoying the hoax a little bit more.

4205
02:33:30,860 --> 02:33:33,080
Well, you're actually doing more with it, though.

4206
02:33:33,220 --> 02:33:37,060
You actually get involved at a deeper level

4207
02:33:37,060 --> 02:33:37,540
than I do.

4208
02:33:37,660 --> 02:33:39,340
I kind of just like the surface of

4209
02:33:39,340 --> 02:33:39,480
it.

4210
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:41,460
I'm vibe coding, man.

4211
02:33:41,860 --> 02:33:43,360
Yeah, you're vibe coding.

4212
02:33:43,640 --> 02:33:44,240
I am.

4213
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:45,520
And I really like it.

4214
02:33:45,540 --> 02:33:46,400
And it's really good.

4215
02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:48,000
And as long as it's 20 bucks a

4216
02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:49,760
month, I'm okay with it.

4217
02:33:51,760 --> 02:33:53,440
This week, I'm going to hook up the

4218
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:54,820
guy who sent us...

4219
02:33:54,820 --> 02:33:58,580
who sent me the Nvidia card.

4220
02:33:58,660 --> 02:33:59,640
Yeah, the Nvidia card.

4221
02:33:59,880 --> 02:34:01,480
I'm excited about hooking that up.

4222
02:34:01,520 --> 02:34:04,840
But the point is it's not intelligence.

4223
02:34:05,180 --> 02:34:06,220
It's just not.

4224
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:09,440
And they keep telling us that we're almost

4225
02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:09,860
there.

4226
02:34:10,080 --> 02:34:11,560
We'll have it just a little...

4227
02:34:11,560 --> 02:34:13,740
just a few more lithium crystals, Captain, and

4228
02:34:13,740 --> 02:34:14,320
we'll be good.

4229
02:34:14,580 --> 02:34:15,040
No.

4230
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:22,460
It's just burning tokens, burning energy, and no

4231
02:34:22,460 --> 02:34:24,960
one really trusts it because they shouldn't.

4232
02:34:25,740 --> 02:34:26,560
It's not going to...

4233
02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:30,000
Okay, yes, you can code some things.

4234
02:34:30,360 --> 02:34:30,460
Sure.

4235
02:34:30,860 --> 02:34:32,020
It codes itself.

4236
02:34:32,160 --> 02:34:32,420
Sure.

4237
02:34:32,580 --> 02:34:33,160
Because it makes art?

4238
02:34:33,660 --> 02:34:35,660
Yeah, it makes art and writes stuff.

4239
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:36,220
Yeah.

4240
02:34:36,480 --> 02:34:37,720
Writes stuff, kind of.

4241
02:34:37,880 --> 02:34:39,020
But it's not...

4242
02:34:39,020 --> 02:34:41,100
The money is just insane.

4243
02:34:41,860 --> 02:34:45,480
And I think investors, they have no imagination.

4244
02:34:45,740 --> 02:34:48,060
All they can think of is Sam's going

4245
02:34:48,060 --> 02:34:49,100
to do it, man.

4246
02:34:49,860 --> 02:34:52,120
Have you seen Sam's houses and his cars?

4247
02:34:52,300 --> 02:34:53,040
Get a clue.

4248
02:34:57,100 --> 02:34:58,360
What's our stack like?

4249
02:34:58,500 --> 02:35:00,460
John, the no agenda stack, it needs to

4250
02:35:00,460 --> 02:35:00,760
grow.

4251
02:35:01,740 --> 02:35:02,960
Don't worry about the revenue.

4252
02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:04,600
Just give us more money.

4253
02:35:04,820 --> 02:35:05,520
It'll be fine.

4254
02:35:06,460 --> 02:35:07,760
I'm so sick of these people.

4255
02:35:11,570 --> 02:35:12,370
It's pretty...

4256
02:35:12,890 --> 02:35:14,990
This will bring the economy down.

4257
02:35:15,470 --> 02:35:15,890
Oh, eventually.

4258
02:35:15,890 --> 02:35:17,650
This is going to cause the collapse of

4259
02:35:17,650 --> 02:35:17,970
the market.

4260
02:35:18,030 --> 02:35:19,290
It's not going to be a big one,

4261
02:35:20,030 --> 02:35:21,690
like 69, I don't think.

4262
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:22,290
It could be.

4263
02:35:22,470 --> 02:35:24,070
Do you think there will be stoning people

4264
02:35:24,070 --> 02:35:25,350
like Sam Altman?

4265
02:35:25,370 --> 02:35:26,650
No, they never do that.

4266
02:35:26,750 --> 02:35:28,790
For some reason, they just won't do that.

4267
02:35:29,070 --> 02:35:30,270
They don't.

4268
02:35:30,410 --> 02:35:31,910
I don't know why we can't get to

4269
02:35:31,910 --> 02:35:34,170
that stoning, or tar and feather even.

4270
02:35:34,430 --> 02:35:34,790
Come on.

4271
02:35:34,930 --> 02:35:37,610
What's this Wall Street Journal podcast producers?

4272
02:35:37,990 --> 02:35:38,550
What is this?

4273
02:35:39,010 --> 02:35:41,630
Somebody sent this to me and I said,

4274
02:35:41,710 --> 02:35:42,510
oh, my God.

4275
02:35:42,770 --> 02:35:46,510
I would ridicule the producers from the various

4276
02:35:46,510 --> 02:35:47,710
NPR podcasts.

4277
02:35:47,850 --> 02:35:50,070
They have a thank you list at the

4278
02:35:50,070 --> 02:35:52,330
end of a podcast that was like 25

4279
02:35:52,330 --> 02:35:53,110
people.

4280
02:35:53,810 --> 02:35:55,850
I think the Wall Street Journal, which has

4281
02:35:55,850 --> 02:35:59,510
a podcast called The Journal, and they...

4282
02:36:00,490 --> 02:36:01,330
They're worse.

4283
02:36:01,490 --> 02:36:03,010
I didn't realize it, but I guess if

4284
02:36:03,010 --> 02:36:05,090
you've got the commercial side to it, you

4285
02:36:05,090 --> 02:36:06,410
can be worse than NPR.

4286
02:36:06,830 --> 02:36:08,690
And this is the thank yous at the

4287
02:36:08,690 --> 02:36:09,350
end of a podcast.

4288
02:36:09,750 --> 02:36:10,610
That's all for today.

4289
02:36:10,990 --> 02:36:12,970
Friday, February 27th.

4290
02:36:13,310 --> 02:36:14,890
The Journal is a co-production of Spotify

4291
02:36:14,890 --> 02:36:15,990
and The Wall Street Journal.

4292
02:36:16,430 --> 02:36:18,390
The show is made by Catherine Brewer, Kia

4293
02:36:18,390 --> 02:36:23,170
Ghedkari, Isabella Japal, Sophie Codner, Matt Kwong, Colin

4294
02:36:23,170 --> 02:36:27,570
McNulty, Jessica Mendoza, Annie Minoff, Laura Morris, Enrique

4295
02:36:27,570 --> 02:36:30,690
Perez de la Rosa, Sarah Platt, Alan Rodriguez

4296
02:36:30,690 --> 02:36:34,970
Espinosa, Heather Rogers, Pierce Singhee, Jivika Verma, Lisa

4297
02:36:34,970 --> 02:36:38,710
Wang, Catherine Whalen, Tatiana Zamis, and me, Ryan

4298
02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:39,190
Knudsen.

4299
02:36:39,550 --> 02:36:42,630
Our engineers are Griffin Tanner, Nathan Singapak, and

4300
02:36:42,630 --> 02:36:43,110
Peter Leonard.

4301
02:36:43,650 --> 02:36:45,350
Our theme music is by So Wiley.

4302
02:36:45,870 --> 02:36:48,330
Additional music this week from Catherine Anderson, Peter

4303
02:36:48,330 --> 02:36:52,150
Leonard, Bobby Lord, Emma Munger, Nathan Singapak, Griffin

4304
02:36:52,150 --> 02:36:53,670
Tanner, and Blue Dot Sessions.

4305
02:36:54,050 --> 02:36:56,470
Fact-checking this week by Najwa Jamal and

4306
02:36:56,470 --> 02:36:57,210
Mary Mathis.

4307
02:37:00,090 --> 02:37:00,650
Yeah.

4308
02:37:00,930 --> 02:37:01,950
Yeah, that's pretty long.

4309
02:37:02,850 --> 02:37:03,790
That's pretty long.

4310
02:37:03,970 --> 02:37:06,210
Do you need three engineers?

4311
02:37:06,730 --> 02:37:07,170
No.

4312
02:37:07,790 --> 02:37:08,730
How many do we have?

4313
02:37:10,130 --> 02:37:10,690
One.

4314
02:37:11,310 --> 02:37:12,830
We don't have any, actually.

4315
02:37:12,970 --> 02:37:13,790
You're the engineer.

4316
02:37:13,990 --> 02:37:15,630
You do a single hand.

4317
02:37:16,250 --> 02:37:16,690
Yes.

4318
02:37:18,090 --> 02:37:21,150
You know, because we're just bringing up names,

4319
02:37:24,110 --> 02:37:25,050
I can't remember.

4320
02:37:25,250 --> 02:37:28,730
I said something, you know, Tina said something

4321
02:37:28,730 --> 02:37:29,150
about it.

4322
02:37:29,190 --> 02:37:33,610
I said, oh, that's, you know, some woman's

4323
02:37:33,610 --> 02:37:34,150
name, Hunt.

4324
02:37:34,230 --> 02:37:36,250
I said, oh, yeah, Mike's sister.

4325
02:37:37,130 --> 02:37:39,910
And she's like, oh, you are so juvenile.

4326
02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:41,870
And I said, well, have you never heard

4327
02:37:41,870 --> 02:37:44,330
about the plane that crashed in San Francisco?

4328
02:37:45,530 --> 02:37:46,750
She had never heard this.

4329
02:37:47,450 --> 02:37:48,330
She never heard this.

4330
02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:52,130
Well, this is a good bit to revisit.

4331
02:37:52,370 --> 02:37:53,910
We do have all of the tapes and

4332
02:37:53,910 --> 02:37:54,710
all the clips.

4333
02:37:54,890 --> 02:37:56,890
I figured I'd revisit this and play it

4334
02:37:56,890 --> 02:37:57,410
for us.

4335
02:37:57,670 --> 02:37:59,530
The coroner is still trying to determine the

4336
02:37:59,530 --> 02:38:01,810
cause of death and whether she was already

4337
02:38:01,810 --> 02:38:03,670
dead when the truck hit her.

4338
02:38:04,190 --> 02:38:06,490
We have new information now also on the

4339
02:38:06,490 --> 02:38:07,050
plane crash.

4340
02:38:07,170 --> 02:38:09,370
KTVU has just learned the names of the

4341
02:38:09,370 --> 02:38:11,450
four pilots who were on board the flight.

4342
02:38:11,450 --> 02:38:15,850
They are Captain Sum Ting Wong, Wee Too

4343
02:38:15,850 --> 02:38:20,090
Low, Ho Lee Phuc, and Bang Dang Al.

4344
02:38:20,530 --> 02:38:23,010
The NTSB has confirmed these are the names

4345
02:38:23,010 --> 02:38:25,690
of the pilots on board flight 214 when

4346
02:38:25,690 --> 02:38:26,270
it crashed.

4347
02:38:26,430 --> 02:38:28,370
We never really got to the bottom of

4348
02:38:28,370 --> 02:38:29,010
that, did we?

4349
02:38:30,510 --> 02:38:31,670
Yeah, we did.

4350
02:38:32,010 --> 02:38:34,690
No, who came up with the NTSB?

4351
02:38:34,690 --> 02:38:37,510
It was one of the engineers at the

4352
02:38:37,510 --> 02:38:41,510
station and they had slipped this in as

4353
02:38:41,510 --> 02:38:44,390
a joke on the news reader because she

4354
02:38:44,390 --> 02:38:45,130
was notorious.

4355
02:38:45,570 --> 02:38:47,530
I don't remember her name now, but she's

4356
02:38:47,530 --> 02:38:48,210
not there anymore.

4357
02:38:48,550 --> 02:38:50,490
But she would just re-wrote.

4358
02:38:50,990 --> 02:38:52,610
There was a bunch of people that are

4359
02:38:52,610 --> 02:38:54,490
news readers that just whatever it says on

4360
02:38:54,490 --> 02:38:55,990
the prompter, they read it like a robot.

4361
02:38:56,770 --> 02:38:57,210
Yeah, read it.

4362
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:57,710
Go for it.

4363
02:38:57,810 --> 02:38:58,270
Yeah, read it.

4364
02:38:58,890 --> 02:39:00,350
And so they found one of them and

4365
02:39:00,350 --> 02:39:02,710
they gave her and I think the guy

4366
02:39:02,710 --> 02:39:03,390
got fired.

4367
02:39:03,970 --> 02:39:04,610
You think?

4368
02:39:06,630 --> 02:39:07,530
Wee Too Low.

4369
02:39:07,530 --> 02:39:09,750
Here at No Agenda, you get promoted.

4370
02:39:11,290 --> 02:39:13,570
You go to the top of the No

4371
02:39:13,570 --> 02:39:15,710
Agenda stack when you do stuff like that.

4372
02:39:15,850 --> 02:39:16,650
That's fantastic.

4373
02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:18,370
Something wrong.

4374
02:39:20,890 --> 02:39:24,970
Amidst all of the hullabaloo over Iran, etc.

4375
02:39:25,170 --> 02:39:28,890
There's one extra little bit that I don't

4376
02:39:28,890 --> 02:39:30,730
know if it has gotten a lot of

4377
02:39:30,730 --> 02:39:31,190
play.

4378
02:39:31,610 --> 02:39:33,310
It probably isn't interstitial.

4379
02:39:34,030 --> 02:39:35,650
This is from France 24.

4380
02:39:35,650 --> 02:39:36,950
It's something the president said.

4381
02:39:37,370 --> 02:39:39,430
An island cut off from oil and seeking

4382
02:39:39,430 --> 02:39:40,850
deeper into crisis.

4383
02:39:41,310 --> 02:39:43,670
It's been over a month since Cuba received

4384
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:45,870
its last oil shipment from Mexico.

4385
02:39:46,290 --> 02:39:48,910
A result of threats from the American president

4386
02:39:48,910 --> 02:39:51,890
to impose tariffs on any country that delivered

4387
02:39:51,890 --> 02:39:53,650
oil to the communist nation.

4388
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:56,590
Now Donald Trump is offering a takeover and

4389
02:39:56,590 --> 02:39:59,050
says Havana is in talks with his secretary

4390
02:39:59,050 --> 02:39:59,830
of state.

4391
02:40:00,170 --> 02:40:12,230
Maybe we'll

4392
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:13,810
have a friendly takeover of Cuba.

4393
02:40:15,090 --> 02:40:18,590
The island nation only produces 40% of

4394
02:40:18,590 --> 02:40:21,330
its own fuel and mainly relies on oil

4395
02:40:21,330 --> 02:40:23,230
to power their energy grid.

4396
02:40:23,950 --> 02:40:26,510
Blackouts are now endemic and petrol is being

4397
02:40:26,510 --> 02:40:27,150
rationed.

4398
02:40:27,350 --> 02:40:28,450
Bus routes suspended.

4399
02:40:28,830 --> 02:40:30,910
The UN is increasingly concerned.

4400
02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:32,470
Situation is serious.

4401
02:40:32,690 --> 02:40:34,890
I think it is evolving quite rapidly.

4402
02:40:36,130 --> 02:40:43,330
It carries a real risk for human suffering.

4403
02:40:44,650 --> 02:40:49,870
The energy shortages are quite prolonged and will

4404
02:40:49,870 --> 02:40:53,130
not remain as technical problems.

4405
02:40:53,350 --> 02:40:55,390
They become humanitarian emergencies.

4406
02:40:56,470 --> 02:40:59,150
The fuel crisis is causing Cubans to adapt

4407
02:40:59,150 --> 02:41:01,410
as best they can with many turning to

4408
02:41:01,410 --> 02:41:01,850
bikes.

4409
02:41:02,650 --> 02:41:04,730
So the president says we could probably have

4410
02:41:04,730 --> 02:41:06,390
a friendly takeover of Cuba.

4411
02:41:07,710 --> 02:41:09,030
That's interesting.

4412
02:41:10,110 --> 02:41:11,390
Rubio is on point.

4413
02:41:12,430 --> 02:41:14,850
Rubio wants to be the guy running Cuba.

4414
02:41:16,370 --> 02:41:18,770
I'm going to quit my job as secretary

4415
02:41:18,770 --> 02:41:20,290
of state and take over Cuba.

4416
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:22,250
That would not surprise me.

4417
02:41:22,350 --> 02:41:24,070
I'd rather he run the United States.

4418
02:41:24,290 --> 02:41:24,850
I'm liking him.

4419
02:41:24,850 --> 02:41:26,230
He might end up doing that.

4420
02:41:26,470 --> 02:41:32,250
It looks like there are free Iran rallies

4421
02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:35,050
happening now and of course the obligatory hands

4422
02:41:35,050 --> 02:41:36,350
off Iran, Trump!

4423
02:41:36,350 --> 02:41:37,970
It's already starting.

4424
02:41:38,970 --> 02:41:41,190
With already pre-printed signs.

4425
02:41:41,410 --> 02:41:42,870
They're totally pre-printed.

4426
02:41:43,390 --> 02:41:45,690
They were printed before the whole thing started.

4427
02:41:46,670 --> 02:41:48,710
The Socialist Workers Party.

4428
02:41:48,930 --> 02:41:49,810
They're out already.

4429
02:41:50,470 --> 02:41:52,730
I have one last clip and a commentary.

4430
02:41:53,210 --> 02:41:55,570
I played this story about the woman who

4431
02:41:55,570 --> 02:41:57,430
stuck her underwear in the coffee maker.

4432
02:41:58,230 --> 02:41:59,510
Very disturbing.

4433
02:42:02,390 --> 02:42:05,070
Here's a follow-up story where she's gotten

4434
02:42:05,070 --> 02:42:06,410
sued supposedly.

4435
02:42:06,670 --> 02:42:08,130
This is an AI voice.

4436
02:42:08,490 --> 02:42:10,330
It doesn't sound like one, but there's a

4437
02:42:10,330 --> 02:42:11,030
giveaway in there.

4438
02:42:11,090 --> 02:42:12,210
I want to see if you can spot

4439
02:42:12,210 --> 02:42:12,370
it.

4440
02:42:12,730 --> 02:42:16,130
All AI voices make the same mistake that

4441
02:42:16,130 --> 02:42:17,470
you're going to hear in this report.

4442
02:42:17,690 --> 02:42:19,230
I have only one clip and it says

4443
02:42:19,230 --> 02:42:20,010
part two.

4444
02:42:21,210 --> 02:42:22,210
It says yes.

4445
02:42:22,610 --> 02:42:23,390
That's the one?

4446
02:42:24,250 --> 02:42:24,730
Wait.

4447
02:42:26,150 --> 02:42:27,670
I've got to set it up.

4448
02:42:29,090 --> 02:42:32,590
The thesis is that this is a bogus

4449
02:42:32,590 --> 02:42:33,010
story.

4450
02:42:33,010 --> 02:42:34,130
It never really happened.

4451
02:42:34,250 --> 02:42:35,850
The whole thing was done as a publicity

4452
02:42:35,850 --> 02:42:36,190
stunt.

4453
02:42:36,530 --> 02:42:38,470
This being part of it, this is part

4454
02:42:38,470 --> 02:42:41,110
of the publicity stunt, as a promotion for

4455
02:42:41,110 --> 02:42:41,970
Starbucks.

4456
02:42:43,790 --> 02:42:44,270
Starbucks.

4457
02:42:44,590 --> 02:42:46,710
Get people so they don't drink coffee in

4458
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:47,330
the room.

4459
02:42:47,590 --> 02:42:48,290
Long game.

4460
02:42:48,450 --> 02:42:49,150
I like it.

4461
02:42:50,510 --> 02:42:55,430
I talked about this on DH Unplugged some

4462
02:42:55,430 --> 02:42:57,030
time back when I picked it on our

4463
02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:57,550
game.

4464
02:42:57,950 --> 02:42:59,410
I picked Starbucks because they have a new

4465
02:42:59,410 --> 02:43:03,030
marketing guy that took over as CEO and

4466
02:43:03,030 --> 02:43:04,190
he's come up with all these schemes.

4467
02:43:04,350 --> 02:43:05,150
He's the guy who came up with the

4468
02:43:05,150 --> 02:43:07,730
little teddy bear and all these other things.

4469
02:43:07,870 --> 02:43:10,290
They're doing all kinds of new ideas at

4470
02:43:10,290 --> 02:43:11,870
Starbucks and I think this is part of

4471
02:43:11,870 --> 02:43:11,970
it.

4472
02:43:12,730 --> 02:43:14,870
Whoever says Starbucks, I think they're right.

4473
02:43:14,970 --> 02:43:15,850
This is bullcrap.

4474
02:43:16,370 --> 02:43:18,010
What you're going to hear is bullcrap.

4475
02:43:18,090 --> 02:43:19,210
The whole thing is bullcrap.

4476
02:43:19,750 --> 02:43:22,870
I think someone just had three drinks in

4477
02:43:22,870 --> 02:43:23,350
one go.

4478
02:43:23,470 --> 02:43:25,230
A TikTok creator is facing a lawsuit after

4479
02:43:25,230 --> 02:43:27,450
posting a controversial hotel hack online.

4480
02:43:28,130 --> 02:43:30,330
Tara Woodcox, who describes herself as a health

4481
02:43:30,330 --> 02:43:32,690
and nutrition blogger, shared a video showing people

4482
02:43:32,690 --> 02:43:34,890
how to wash underwear using a hotel coffee

4483
02:43:34,890 --> 02:43:35,830
maker while traveling.

4484
02:43:36,390 --> 02:43:38,010
In the video, Tara explains that if you

4485
02:43:38,010 --> 02:43:39,630
run out of clean underwear, you can place

4486
02:43:39,630 --> 02:43:42,350
it inside the coffee filter compartment, close the

4487
02:43:42,350 --> 02:43:44,090
lid, and press the brew button.

4488
02:43:44,770 --> 02:43:46,550
The machine then sprays hot water over the

4489
02:43:46,550 --> 02:43:46,890
fabric.

4490
02:43:47,230 --> 02:43:49,270
She suggests drying the underwear with a bathroom

4491
02:43:49,270 --> 02:43:51,090
hair dryer before wearing it again.

4492
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:53,250
The video quickly went viral.

4493
02:43:53,710 --> 02:43:55,510
Many viewers said this is exactly why they

4494
02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:57,470
avoid using hotel coffee machines.

4495
02:43:57,670 --> 02:44:00,690
Days later, several guests realized they had stayed

4496
02:44:00,690 --> 02:44:02,810
at the same hotel as Tara and had

4497
02:44:02,810 --> 02:44:04,870
already used the in-room coffee makers.

4498
02:44:05,270 --> 02:44:07,490
Some filed complaints and demanded compensation.

4499
02:44:08,170 --> 02:44:10,390
To calm the situation, the hotel reportedly offered

4500
02:44:10,390 --> 02:44:13,130
refunds to recent guests and replaced all coffee

4501
02:44:13,130 --> 02:44:14,070
machines on the property.

4502
02:44:14,530 --> 02:44:16,310
The hotel has now filed a lawsuit against

4503
02:44:16,310 --> 02:44:18,990
Tara Woodcox seeking about $1 million in damages

4504
02:44:18,990 --> 02:44:21,110
for financial loss and reputational harm.

4505
02:44:21,470 --> 02:44:23,850
The story has sparked debate online about responsibility

4506
02:44:23,850 --> 02:44:25,310
and hygiene while traveling.

4507
02:44:25,630 --> 02:44:27,930
After hearing this, would you still use a

4508
02:44:27,930 --> 02:44:29,030
hotel coffee machine?

4509
02:44:29,890 --> 02:44:31,410
Well, where's the Starbucks part?

4510
02:44:31,530 --> 02:44:33,550
Is that they're playing the long game on

4511
02:44:33,550 --> 02:44:33,750
that?

4512
02:44:34,150 --> 02:44:38,030
That's somebody who sent this clip said they

4513
02:44:38,030 --> 02:44:39,810
believe this is a thesis of one of

4514
02:44:39,810 --> 02:44:40,470
our producers.

4515
02:44:41,490 --> 02:44:41,890
Hmm.

4516
02:44:42,890 --> 02:44:44,390
And that's why this is bogus.

4517
02:44:44,490 --> 02:44:46,310
So this is bogus, and the click in

4518
02:44:46,310 --> 02:44:48,610
there that was to me, and I've heard

4519
02:44:48,610 --> 02:44:49,230
this before.

4520
02:44:49,490 --> 02:44:50,310
Oh, the AI click?

4521
02:44:51,210 --> 02:44:53,310
Is the $1 million.

4522
02:44:54,790 --> 02:44:55,710
$1 million?

4523
02:44:56,150 --> 02:44:58,530
She said $1 million.

4524
02:44:59,070 --> 02:44:59,530
Oh.

4525
02:45:00,330 --> 02:45:00,830
Oh, let me.

4526
02:45:01,050 --> 02:45:03,410
From the situation, the hotel reportedly offered refunds

4527
02:45:03,410 --> 02:45:03,950
to recent guests.

4528
02:45:03,950 --> 02:45:05,650
The hotel has now filed a lawsuit against

4529
02:45:05,650 --> 02:45:08,350
Tara Woodcox seeking about $1 million in damages.

4530
02:45:09,270 --> 02:45:10,350
You nailed it.

4531
02:45:10,830 --> 02:45:12,730
Or it could just be a Gen Z

4532
02:45:12,730 --> 02:45:12,970
-er.

4533
02:45:13,630 --> 02:45:14,490
Because that's how they write.

4534
02:45:14,750 --> 02:45:16,450
No, because when you write it out, when

4535
02:45:16,450 --> 02:45:17,050
you write it.

4536
02:45:17,130 --> 02:45:18,830
Yeah, someone at Gen Z wrote it out

4537
02:45:18,830 --> 02:45:21,430
because they don't do dollar sign $1 million,

4538
02:45:21,430 --> 02:45:23,190
they do $1 million sign.

4539
02:45:23,430 --> 02:45:24,490
Have you not noticed this?

4540
02:45:25,970 --> 02:45:27,970
Well, this was written out by a normal

4541
02:45:27,970 --> 02:45:30,050
person, because when you write normally, when you

4542
02:45:30,050 --> 02:45:32,770
normally write a million, you put a dollar

4543
02:45:32,770 --> 02:45:33,730
sign one.

4544
02:45:33,970 --> 02:45:37,830
I'm going to tell you that Gen Z,

4545
02:45:38,150 --> 02:45:40,790
there's a lot of them who are writing

4546
02:45:41,310 --> 02:45:43,210
$1 million sign.

4547
02:45:45,010 --> 02:45:47,310
Well, that's not what this was.

4548
02:45:48,230 --> 02:45:50,390
Well, no, but when they wrote the prompt,

4549
02:45:50,510 --> 02:45:51,510
they wrote it that way.

4550
02:45:51,910 --> 02:45:53,390
No, when they wrote the prompt, they wrote

4551
02:45:53,390 --> 02:45:54,070
normally.

4552
02:45:54,310 --> 02:45:56,830
When you normally write $1 million, you put

4553
02:45:56,830 --> 02:45:58,230
a dollar sign one.

4554
02:45:59,650 --> 02:46:01,170
Then the word million.

4555
02:46:02,730 --> 02:46:04,570
Yeah, no, but what I'm telling you is

4556
02:46:05,450 --> 02:46:07,990
that is not what people do normally anymore.

4557
02:46:09,050 --> 02:46:10,830
No, what you're saying is the Z's don't

4558
02:46:10,830 --> 02:46:11,410
do that normally.

4559
02:46:11,570 --> 02:46:15,110
A writer, a professional writer always writes a

4560
02:46:15,110 --> 02:46:17,170
dollar sign one with the word million.

4561
02:46:17,310 --> 02:46:18,230
That's how you do it.

4562
02:46:19,550 --> 02:46:21,390
And that's what she said.

4563
02:46:21,890 --> 02:46:22,570
I know.

4564
02:46:27,550 --> 02:46:28,590
$1 million.

4565
02:46:30,880 --> 02:46:32,360
Oh, I see what you're saying.

4566
02:46:35,300 --> 02:46:37,040
Okay, the whole thing is just messing with

4567
02:46:37,040 --> 02:46:37,540
my brain.

4568
02:46:37,860 --> 02:46:40,020
I'm still stuck on the panties in the

4569
02:46:40,020 --> 02:46:40,620
coffee thing.

4570
02:46:40,880 --> 02:46:41,220
Sorry.

4571
02:46:43,340 --> 02:46:46,260
The point is that this AI gives itself

4572
02:46:46,260 --> 02:46:48,320
up, because for some reason they can't say

4573
02:46:48,320 --> 02:46:50,800
a million dollars unless you write.

4574
02:46:50,920 --> 02:46:53,160
If you're writing copy for AI, you write

4575
02:46:54,100 --> 02:46:57,000
$1 million, not a dollar sign.

4576
02:46:57,540 --> 02:47:00,000
Okay, so what you're saying is this was

4577
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:00,920
an AI story?

4578
02:47:01,900 --> 02:47:04,300
I'm saying this was the AI presentation.

4579
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:05,920
They never mentioned a hotel.

4580
02:47:06,420 --> 02:47:08,040
They never mentioned where this was.

4581
02:47:08,380 --> 02:47:11,680
The whole thing, the woman who did the

4582
02:47:11,680 --> 02:47:13,460
panty story never said where she was.

4583
02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:15,280
The whole thing is bogus.

4584
02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:16,900
It's to sell Starbucks.

4585
02:47:17,620 --> 02:47:19,780
I'm going to show my school by donating

4586
02:47:19,780 --> 02:47:20,680
to No Agenda.

4587
02:47:20,820 --> 02:47:22,760
Imagine all the people who could do that.

4588
02:47:22,960 --> 02:47:23,960
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

4589
02:47:24,980 --> 02:47:27,960
Yeah, on No Agenda.

4590
02:47:29,320 --> 02:47:30,620
In the morning.

4591
02:47:31,820 --> 02:47:33,540
It's a problem when you have to explain

4592
02:47:33,540 --> 02:47:35,560
the jokes.

4593
02:47:36,820 --> 02:47:40,560
Especially when somebody's preoccupied with panties in the

4594
02:47:40,560 --> 02:47:41,660
coffee machine.

4595
02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:42,460
Yeah, sorry.

4596
02:47:42,780 --> 02:47:44,380
Yes, but we do have a few more

4597
02:47:44,380 --> 02:47:47,380
people to thank, I might add, that gave

4598
02:47:47,380 --> 02:47:49,560
us more than $50 and less than $200,

4599
02:47:49,740 --> 02:47:51,220
and Adam's going to read them from beginning

4600
02:47:51,220 --> 02:47:51,740
to end.

4601
02:47:51,860 --> 02:47:55,580
David Kilchrist, I would say.

4602
02:47:55,700 --> 02:47:56,380
Conroe, Texas.

4603
02:47:56,580 --> 02:47:58,020
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

4604
02:47:58,100 --> 02:47:58,840
Thank you very much.

4605
02:47:59,240 --> 02:48:02,020
Terrence in Niceville, Florida with $100 with a

4606
02:48:02,020 --> 02:48:02,660
long note.

4607
02:48:03,300 --> 02:48:05,780
He says, long-time listener, long-time douchebag,

4608
02:48:05,900 --> 02:48:07,100
please de-douche me.

4609
02:48:08,820 --> 02:48:10,540
You've been de-douched.

4610
02:48:10,840 --> 02:48:13,240
I don't know how long he's been listening,

4611
02:48:13,420 --> 02:48:15,400
but you would know that we don't do

4612
02:48:15,400 --> 02:48:18,500
oodles of jingles like you're asking here.

4613
02:48:18,580 --> 02:48:20,080
But we thank you very much for your

4614
02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:22,340
$100 in Value for Value.

4615
02:48:23,240 --> 02:48:26,260
Randy Filkins, Wellsburg, West Virginia, 100.

4616
02:48:26,520 --> 02:48:28,400
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is with 8-0

4617
02:48:28,400 --> 02:48:29,060
-0-8.

4618
02:48:29,140 --> 02:48:30,320
He is the boob donation.

4619
02:48:30,800 --> 02:48:33,120
He is the Arch Luke of Luna and

4620
02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:34,500
lover of America and boobs.

4621
02:48:34,560 --> 02:48:36,720
And he says, God bless America and boobs.

4622
02:48:37,480 --> 02:48:40,760
7676 from Ray Martin from Dothan, Alabama.

4623
02:48:40,760 --> 02:48:46,640
Henry Cocosoli from Livonia, Michigan, $72.

4624
02:48:47,560 --> 02:48:53,200
John Alberini, Parts Unknown, $70.26. Les Tarkowski

4625
02:48:53,200 --> 02:48:55,720
comes in from Kingman, Arizona with a small

4626
02:48:55,720 --> 02:48:56,740
boob, the only one today.

4627
02:48:56,900 --> 02:49:01,700
$0.66. Alan Adler, Rolling Hills, California $59

4628
02:49:01,700 --> 02:49:05,840
.59. Andrew Garland, Muncie, Indiana, $56.23. Michael

4629
02:49:05,840 --> 02:49:08,280
Stojak, Kingston, Washington, $55.

4630
02:49:08,280 --> 02:49:12,600
Nathan Gwynn, Jackson, Tennessee, $52.72. We have

4631
02:49:12,600 --> 02:49:15,980
John Height in Folsom, California $50.69. And

4632
02:49:15,980 --> 02:49:18,700
we hit the 50s with Sir Richard Gardner.

4633
02:49:18,980 --> 02:49:21,320
We have Benjamin Ryan from Alliance, Ohio.

4634
02:49:21,820 --> 02:49:24,420
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.

4635
02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:26,920
Joshua Johnson, Omaha, Nebraska.

4636
02:49:27,180 --> 02:49:29,520
Bobby Bowe in Bluegrass, Iowa.

4637
02:49:29,900 --> 02:49:31,980
Tony Lang, Castle Pines, Colorado.

4638
02:49:32,260 --> 02:49:35,460
Nathan Noel in Nederland, Texas.

4639
02:49:35,460 --> 02:49:37,740
Terence Clark, Jacksonville Beach, Florida.

4640
02:49:38,020 --> 02:49:40,240
Bill Johnson, Grovetown, Georgia.

4641
02:49:40,960 --> 02:49:43,840
And winding up, we have Sir Commodore Mark

4642
02:49:43,840 --> 02:49:47,140
Bendikowski in Warsaw, Poland.

4643
02:49:48,060 --> 02:49:48,340
Warsaw.

4644
02:49:49,120 --> 02:49:50,440
It says Warsaw.

4645
02:49:51,460 --> 02:49:52,620
Yeah, it's Warsaw.

4646
02:49:53,080 --> 02:49:55,320
But if it says Warsaw, I'm going to

4647
02:49:55,320 --> 02:49:55,900
say Warsaw.

4648
02:49:56,460 --> 02:49:57,840
I think it's pronounced slightly differently.

4649
02:49:57,980 --> 02:49:58,340
Warsaw.

4650
02:49:59,140 --> 02:49:59,600
Kurwa.

4651
02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:02,540
Leslie Walker is our last $50 donor from

4652
02:50:02,540 --> 02:50:03,380
Roseburg, Oregon.

4653
02:50:03,380 --> 02:50:05,740
And Leslie says, keep up the great work.

4654
02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:08,320
And we appreciate you $50 supporters.

4655
02:50:08,780 --> 02:50:09,920
Thank you very much.

4656
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:12,440
Of course, we do not thank anybody under

4657
02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:14,640
$50 for reasons of anonymity.

4658
02:50:14,860 --> 02:50:16,320
We're pretty serious about that.

4659
02:50:16,380 --> 02:50:17,620
We try to protect all of you.

4660
02:50:17,900 --> 02:50:19,980
However, we see you and we look at

4661
02:50:19,980 --> 02:50:21,740
every single one, even people who put notes

4662
02:50:21,740 --> 02:50:23,200
in there, and you can support us at

4663
02:50:23,200 --> 02:50:25,660
any amount, any time you want by going

4664
02:50:25,660 --> 02:50:27,460
to knowagendadonations.com.

4665
02:50:28,020 --> 02:50:30,760
Consider setting up a recurring donation, any amount,

4666
02:50:30,760 --> 02:50:31,540
any frequency.

4667
02:50:32,120 --> 02:50:32,740
And we thank you.

4668
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:35,520
And we also thank our previously mentioned associate

4669
02:50:35,520 --> 02:50:38,600
executive producers and executive producers for your value

4670
02:50:38,600 --> 02:50:41,820
for value contributions to the best podcast in

4671
02:50:41,820 --> 02:50:42,500
the universe.

4672
02:50:43,100 --> 02:50:48,400
It's your birthday, birthday on Noah's channel.

4673
02:50:48,460 --> 02:50:51,240
Short list, but doesn't make them less important.

4674
02:50:51,380 --> 02:50:53,600
Sir Steve Weiss wishes his smoking hot wife

4675
02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:55,120
Stephanie a happy birthday.

4676
02:50:55,420 --> 02:50:57,100
She's celebrating on the 27th.

4677
02:50:57,120 --> 02:50:59,840
Eli the coffee guy turns 46 years old

4678
02:50:59,840 --> 02:51:00,140
today.

4679
02:51:00,640 --> 02:51:03,320
And John Gardner wishes his son Sir Richard

4680
02:51:03,320 --> 02:51:04,840
Gardner a happy birthday.

4681
02:51:04,940 --> 02:51:07,140
He'll be turning 40 years old on March

4682
02:51:07,140 --> 02:51:07,500
3rd.

4683
02:51:07,560 --> 02:51:09,740
And we say happy birthday from everybody here

4684
02:51:09,740 --> 02:51:12,020
at the best podcast in the universe.

4685
02:51:13,900 --> 02:51:15,580
Now we do have a layaway night here.

4686
02:51:15,700 --> 02:51:18,420
That is the same John Gardner who just

4687
02:51:18,420 --> 02:51:20,080
congratulated his son.

4688
02:51:20,700 --> 02:51:21,760
And here's his notes.

4689
02:51:21,980 --> 02:51:23,440
Adam and John have been laying it away

4690
02:51:23,440 --> 02:51:24,740
every month since 2018.

4691
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:26,760
And it's time I claim my nighthood.

4692
02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:27,560
Yeah.

4693
02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:28,840
I'll keep it brief.

4694
02:51:28,880 --> 02:51:30,400
Night name, Sir John General.

4695
02:51:30,540 --> 02:51:33,780
Some tips for Brits to get to get,

4696
02:51:33,880 --> 02:51:34,980
quote, no agenda.

4697
02:51:35,720 --> 02:51:37,140
So this is if you are a Brit

4698
02:51:37,140 --> 02:51:38,580
and you're like, what are these guys about?

4699
02:51:39,300 --> 02:51:40,060
Keep at it.

4700
02:51:40,120 --> 02:51:41,800
It's a struggle to start with, but worth

4701
02:51:41,800 --> 02:51:42,240
the effort.

4702
02:51:42,580 --> 02:51:44,640
Accept that both Adam and John are often

4703
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:46,660
wrong about the UK and the Brits.

4704
02:51:47,140 --> 02:51:49,120
Understand that you will soon know more about

4705
02:51:49,120 --> 02:51:50,640
the US and how it works than the

4706
02:51:50,640 --> 02:51:51,320
average Brit.

4707
02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:55,160
This will prove both enlightening and frustrating when

4708
02:51:55,160 --> 02:51:57,540
you go in hospital or at university.

4709
02:51:58,300 --> 02:52:01,280
Frustrating because nearly every Brit has TDS and

4710
02:52:01,280 --> 02:52:03,060
will think you are a Trump apologist.

4711
02:52:03,680 --> 02:52:05,700
P.S. Sir Richard Gardner is one of

4712
02:52:05,700 --> 02:52:07,560
my human resources and it was he who

4713
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:08,260
hit me in the mouth.

4714
02:52:08,600 --> 02:52:10,260
It's his 40th birthday on March 3rd, so

4715
02:52:10,260 --> 02:52:11,680
please give him a shout out, John Gardner.

4716
02:52:11,780 --> 02:52:13,380
Of course, very happy to do that.

4717
02:52:13,440 --> 02:52:15,840
So that means that we do have two

4718
02:52:15,840 --> 02:52:18,060
nights and one dame to bring up today.

4719
02:52:18,220 --> 02:52:20,020
John, if you could grab a sword.

4720
02:52:21,140 --> 02:52:23,580
For you Brits, we do knightings.

4721
02:52:23,680 --> 02:52:25,580
That's not reserved for your king.

4722
02:52:26,240 --> 02:52:27,900
We can do it as well as anybody

4723
02:52:27,900 --> 02:52:28,360
else.

4724
02:52:28,760 --> 02:52:30,620
So Eli the Coffee Guy and John Gardner

4725
02:52:30,620 --> 02:52:32,940
hop up here next to Jen and I

4726
02:52:32,940 --> 02:52:35,380
am very proud to pronounce the KD as

4727
02:52:35,380 --> 02:52:39,120
Dame Jen, Baroness of Beans, Sir Eli the

4728
02:52:39,120 --> 02:52:41,660
Baron of Beans and Sir John General.

4729
02:52:42,060 --> 02:52:43,700
For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent

4730
02:52:43,700 --> 02:52:46,100
boys and chardonnay, cold brew and goat stew

4731
02:52:46,100 --> 02:52:48,480
along with foie gras and sauternes.

4732
02:52:49,160 --> 02:52:51,220
Add to that Sir Redheads and Rye's and

4733
02:52:51,220 --> 02:52:53,240
Beards and Blunts and Rubinettes, Lumen and Rosé,

4734
02:52:53,420 --> 02:52:55,740
Gases and Sake, Vodka, Manila, Barnetts and Bourbon,

4735
02:52:56,340 --> 02:52:59,340
Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils,

4736
02:52:59,480 --> 02:53:00,420
Breast Milk and Pablum.

4737
02:53:00,600 --> 02:53:02,660
And as always, we have the mutton and

4738
02:53:02,660 --> 02:53:04,040
the meat here at the round table.

4739
02:53:04,140 --> 02:53:05,600
For you, join the rest of our knights

4740
02:53:05,600 --> 02:53:05,980
and dames.

4741
02:53:06,500 --> 02:53:08,520
And on your way to the table, go

4742
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:12,500
right to visit knowagenderrings.com and take a

4743
02:53:12,500 --> 02:53:13,520
look at those handsome rings.

4744
02:53:13,940 --> 02:53:14,960
We're going to send you one.

4745
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:16,420
All you have to do is use the

4746
02:53:16,420 --> 02:53:18,120
ring sizing guide on the website.

4747
02:53:18,260 --> 02:53:19,560
Let us know what ring size you have

4748
02:53:19,560 --> 02:53:21,240
and we will send that to you post

4749
02:53:21,240 --> 02:53:23,660
haste and include with that not one, but

4750
02:53:23,660 --> 02:53:26,300
I think two sticks of wax because they

4751
02:53:26,300 --> 02:53:28,060
are signet rings and you can use those

4752
02:53:28,060 --> 02:53:29,560
to seal your important correspondence.

4753
02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:31,580
And as always, for framing and on the

4754
02:53:31,580 --> 02:53:33,760
wall, we give you a certificate of authenticity.

4755
02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:36,560
That's only for our knights and our dames

4756
02:53:36,560 --> 02:53:38,120
of the Know Agenda Round Table and we

4757
02:53:38,120 --> 02:53:40,160
welcome you and congratulations.

4758
02:53:40,460 --> 02:53:41,800
On behalf of the Know Agenda Show.

4759
02:53:42,960 --> 02:53:50,270
Know Agenda Beat'em Up The Know Agenda

4760
02:53:50,270 --> 02:53:52,950
Meetups take place all over the globe.

4761
02:53:53,070 --> 02:53:56,130
They are producer organized and you can find

4762
02:53:56,130 --> 02:53:57,990
everything at knowagendameetups.com.

4763
02:53:58,070 --> 02:54:00,570
People get together, hang out, talk about topics,

4764
02:54:00,730 --> 02:54:03,490
meet each other, some get into serious deep

4765
02:54:03,490 --> 02:54:05,870
relationships, some have gotten married, some have kids

4766
02:54:05,870 --> 02:54:08,750
already and many of you send reports of

4767
02:54:08,750 --> 02:54:09,210
your meetup.

4768
02:54:09,310 --> 02:54:10,530
Here's one from Fort Wayne.

4769
02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:12,230
This is the February meetup they had.

4770
02:54:12,310 --> 02:54:14,010
Adam and John, this is Shannon hosting today's

4771
02:54:14,010 --> 02:54:14,210
event.

4772
02:54:14,290 --> 02:54:15,930
We had a six pack of people and

4773
02:54:15,930 --> 02:54:16,770
we had a good time.

4774
02:54:17,030 --> 02:54:18,310
So here's the group.

4775
02:54:18,570 --> 02:54:19,810
Michelle Beam here.

4776
02:54:20,110 --> 02:54:21,690
Jared from Cool Axe of the K.

4777
02:54:22,630 --> 02:54:23,810
Hey, Shelly from Fort Wayne.

4778
02:54:23,930 --> 02:54:26,230
Had a great lunch and great conversation today.

4779
02:54:26,570 --> 02:54:27,450
Thank you for your courage.

4780
02:54:27,770 --> 02:54:29,470
Steve from Fishers, Indiana.

4781
02:54:29,630 --> 02:54:30,510
Glad to be a part of the group.

4782
02:54:30,810 --> 02:54:33,470
And I paid $33 for a Don Bass

4783
02:54:33,470 --> 02:54:35,410
diploma autographed by Donald Putin.

4784
02:54:35,570 --> 02:54:36,410
I think it's legit.

4785
02:54:36,750 --> 02:54:37,690
In the morning.

4786
02:54:38,370 --> 02:54:38,830
Wow.

4787
02:54:41,150 --> 02:54:43,330
Try to remember to include your server, people.

4788
02:54:43,770 --> 02:54:44,710
Here's our second report.

4789
02:54:44,970 --> 02:54:47,530
This is another Duke of San Francisco birthday

4790
02:54:47,530 --> 02:54:48,570
bash meetup report.

4791
02:54:48,850 --> 02:54:50,970
A dude named Ben named Ben celebrating my

4792
02:54:50,970 --> 02:54:51,350
birthday.

4793
02:54:51,530 --> 02:54:54,010
The Connecticut Yankees doing the two out of

4794
02:54:54,010 --> 02:54:55,470
three meetups this month.

4795
02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:57,410
San Francisco Bay Area.

4796
02:54:57,670 --> 02:55:00,790
We are connecting to protect ourselves.

4797
02:55:01,210 --> 02:55:02,910
Mr. Vontag, happy birthday Ben.

4798
02:55:03,350 --> 02:55:06,510
This is Sir Rieschmeister and we are in

4799
02:55:06,510 --> 02:55:09,630
the middle of meetup number two out of

4800
02:55:09,630 --> 02:55:11,870
three meetups in the San Francisco Bay Area.

4801
02:55:12,110 --> 02:55:14,710
So, if you're from around here and you

4802
02:55:14,710 --> 02:55:18,010
need some connection and a little protection, go

4803
02:55:18,010 --> 02:55:21,710
to noagendameetups.com and look for the meetup

4804
02:55:21,710 --> 02:55:25,750
happening on March 7th in Los Altos, California.

4805
02:55:26,270 --> 02:55:27,390
This is Sir Rick Alston.

4806
02:55:27,550 --> 02:55:28,130
Crazy Steve.

4807
02:55:28,650 --> 02:55:30,990
All this advertising is great, but I love

4808
02:55:30,990 --> 02:55:32,910
the connection and protection and I want to

4809
02:55:32,910 --> 02:55:35,790
wish my buddy here Ben, the Duke of

4810
02:55:35,790 --> 02:55:37,290
San Francisco a happy birthday.

4811
02:55:38,190 --> 02:55:39,290
In the morning!

4812
02:55:40,430 --> 02:55:41,110
It's true.

4813
02:55:41,270 --> 02:55:42,830
Connection gives you protection.

4814
02:55:43,030 --> 02:55:44,530
These people that you find at the No

4815
02:55:44,530 --> 02:55:47,070
Agenda meetups will be your first responders in

4816
02:55:47,070 --> 02:55:47,970
any emergency.

4817
02:55:48,350 --> 02:55:50,150
They make you stable so you are able.

4818
02:55:50,290 --> 02:55:52,050
Go to noagendameetups.com.

4819
02:55:52,330 --> 02:55:53,550
You can see all of them.

4820
02:55:53,890 --> 02:55:54,530
Search them.

4821
02:55:54,830 --> 02:55:57,790
Listed by region, by time, by date.

4822
02:55:58,250 --> 02:55:59,970
We have in March coming up Tinley Park.

4823
02:56:00,030 --> 02:56:04,990
Actually, we have on Thursday the ultimate Porteno

4824
02:56:04,990 --> 02:56:05,550
meetup.

4825
02:56:05,630 --> 02:56:06,610
This is Buenos Aires.

4826
02:56:06,990 --> 02:56:08,070
Pepino's Restaurant!

4827
02:56:08,710 --> 02:56:11,770
In Acasuso, Buenos Aires.

4828
02:56:12,010 --> 02:56:14,510
We need a meetup report from you.

4829
02:56:14,630 --> 02:56:15,870
That is desperately needed.

4830
02:56:16,230 --> 02:56:19,210
Also on Thursday, the Northern Wake March Madness

4831
02:56:19,210 --> 02:56:20,570
Publical Gathering meetup.

4832
02:56:20,670 --> 02:56:21,210
6 o'clock.

4833
02:56:21,290 --> 02:56:23,070
That'll be at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh,

4834
02:56:23,490 --> 02:56:24,090
North Carolina.

4835
02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:25,550
And the rest of the month.

4836
02:56:26,370 --> 02:56:27,950
On the 7th, Tinley Park, Illinois.

4837
02:56:28,090 --> 02:56:29,070
Los Altos, California.

4838
02:56:29,310 --> 02:56:31,570
The 14th, Eagle, Idaho and Gladewater, Texas.

4839
02:56:31,670 --> 02:56:32,850
The 15th, Indianapolis.

4840
02:56:32,850 --> 02:56:34,930
The 18th, Rockaway, New Jersey.

4841
02:56:35,030 --> 02:56:36,510
The 19th, Charlotte, North Carolina.

4842
02:56:36,710 --> 02:56:38,510
The 21st, Franklin, Tennessee.

4843
02:56:38,650 --> 02:56:40,210
Home of all the big music stars.

4844
02:56:40,590 --> 02:56:42,770
And the 28th, Fort Wayne, Indiana.

4845
02:56:42,950 --> 02:56:45,790
Reminder that we have Osaka, Japan coming up

4846
02:56:45,790 --> 02:56:46,490
on April 4th.

4847
02:56:46,810 --> 02:56:49,250
We have Albany, California on the 11th.

4848
02:56:49,270 --> 02:56:51,210
You'll be at the Albany, won't you?

4849
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:53,370
Is that another get John out of the

4850
02:56:53,370 --> 02:56:53,950
house meetup?

4851
02:56:54,050 --> 02:56:55,790
So did he move it to the 11th?

4852
02:56:56,190 --> 02:56:57,630
That's what it says on my list.

4853
02:56:58,770 --> 02:57:00,850
Yeah, I'll be...

4854
02:57:00,850 --> 02:57:02,370
Yeah, I always go to that one.

4855
02:57:02,470 --> 02:57:05,290
It's interesting because I will have the Fredericksburg

4856
02:57:05,290 --> 02:57:06,530
meetup on April 11th.

4857
02:57:06,550 --> 02:57:07,210
Oh, it'll be a showdown.

4858
02:57:07,310 --> 02:57:07,530
Okay.

4859
02:57:07,710 --> 02:57:09,590
It'll be a donation showdown.

4860
02:57:09,730 --> 02:57:10,430
There you go.

4861
02:57:10,610 --> 02:57:11,430
April 11th.

4862
02:57:11,590 --> 02:57:12,470
Let's see who does better.

4863
02:57:12,490 --> 02:57:12,810
Let's go Albany.

4864
02:57:12,950 --> 02:57:14,070
We can beat these guys.

4865
02:57:14,310 --> 02:57:15,130
Come on, Texas.

4866
02:57:15,390 --> 02:57:16,850
We can do a lot better than those

4867
02:57:16,850 --> 02:57:16,950
west coast morons.

4868
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:17,150
They suck in Texas.

4869
02:57:17,270 --> 02:57:18,110
They don't donate.

4870
02:57:18,270 --> 02:57:19,270
They don't know what they're doing.

4871
02:57:19,390 --> 02:57:19,830
They're cheap.

4872
02:57:19,910 --> 02:57:22,430
Noagendameetups.com Noagendameetups.com.

4873
02:57:22,530 --> 02:57:24,810
We will beat California's butt any day.

4874
02:57:25,870 --> 02:57:28,070
If you can't find one, start one yourself.

4875
02:57:30,850 --> 02:57:34,190
Hang out with all the nights and days.

4876
02:57:36,690 --> 02:57:39,950
You won't be triggered or held to blame.

4877
02:57:40,790 --> 02:57:44,750
You're gonna be where everybody feels the same.

4878
02:57:46,170 --> 02:57:47,670
It's like a party.

4879
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:49,150
Always like a party.

4880
02:57:49,370 --> 02:57:51,250
Hey, we're about ready for John's tip of

4881
02:57:51,250 --> 02:57:53,010
the day, which is another highlight of the

4882
02:57:53,010 --> 02:57:53,270
show.

4883
02:57:53,770 --> 02:57:55,610
Before we get to that, though, we always

4884
02:57:55,610 --> 02:57:57,990
want to determine what we'll use at the

4885
02:57:57,990 --> 02:57:59,250
end of show as an ISO.

4886
02:57:59,790 --> 02:58:00,410
I have three.

4887
02:58:00,550 --> 02:58:01,190
You have two.

4888
02:58:01,330 --> 02:58:02,230
Shall I start?

4889
02:58:02,910 --> 02:58:03,450
Yes, please.

4890
02:58:03,550 --> 02:58:04,850
Okay, here's my first one.

4891
02:58:04,990 --> 02:58:05,750
It's over, guys.

4892
02:58:05,970 --> 02:58:07,190
We are done.

4893
02:58:08,230 --> 02:58:10,830
I mean, it's kind of over, done.

4894
02:58:11,630 --> 02:58:12,470
Here's another one.

4895
02:58:12,630 --> 02:58:13,950
They're just freaking good.

4896
02:58:14,670 --> 02:58:15,530
Which is true.

4897
02:58:16,310 --> 02:58:18,070
And this one I just thought was really

4898
02:58:18,070 --> 02:58:18,330
funny.

4899
02:58:18,630 --> 02:58:18,730
Mad.

4900
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:19,470
Isn't it mad?

4901
02:58:19,530 --> 02:58:19,990
It's mad.

4902
02:58:20,030 --> 02:58:20,510
It's mad.

4903
02:58:20,590 --> 02:58:21,010
It's mad.

4904
02:58:22,730 --> 02:58:26,260
Can you play them again?

4905
02:58:27,200 --> 02:58:27,760
Yeah, sure.

4906
02:58:27,900 --> 02:58:28,400
Happy to.

4907
02:58:28,500 --> 02:58:29,280
It's over, guys.

4908
02:58:29,480 --> 02:58:30,740
We are done.

4909
02:58:31,160 --> 02:58:32,240
That's the first one.

4910
02:58:32,560 --> 02:58:33,880
They're just freaking good.

4911
02:58:34,240 --> 02:58:35,840
The second one and the third one.

4912
02:58:36,040 --> 02:58:36,140
Mad.

4913
02:58:36,240 --> 02:58:36,900
Isn't it mad?

4914
02:58:36,980 --> 02:58:37,420
It's mad.

4915
02:58:37,500 --> 02:58:37,960
It's mad.

4916
02:58:38,040 --> 02:58:38,480
It's mad.

4917
02:58:42,300 --> 02:58:43,780
Okay, can you play them?

4918
02:58:44,000 --> 02:58:46,560
I picked some stuff up from the Trump

4919
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:48,280
speeches.

4920
02:58:50,400 --> 02:58:52,600
And let's try the first one here, which

4921
02:58:52,600 --> 02:58:56,280
is Best Tea.

4922
02:58:56,740 --> 02:58:58,980
Yep, the best podcast in the universe.

4923
02:59:01,040 --> 02:59:01,480
Rumi.

4924
02:59:01,920 --> 02:59:02,900
Rumi and Boomi.

4925
02:59:03,480 --> 02:59:05,040
It's a little Boomi because he's got a

4926
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:05,660
Boomi voice.

4927
02:59:05,940 --> 02:59:06,980
Alright, try the other one.

4928
02:59:07,220 --> 02:59:09,640
When I'm not bombing Iran, I'm listening to

4929
02:59:09,640 --> 02:59:10,320
no agenda.

4930
02:59:13,420 --> 02:59:14,600
I'll leave it up to you.

4931
02:59:14,720 --> 02:59:16,620
I mean, I think it's either this one,

4932
02:59:16,900 --> 02:59:18,060
which is this one.

4933
02:59:18,060 --> 02:59:20,460
When I'm not bombing Iran, I'm listening to

4934
02:59:20,460 --> 02:59:21,200
no agenda.

4935
02:59:22,080 --> 02:59:22,920
Isn't it mad?

4936
02:59:22,980 --> 02:59:23,420
It's mad.

4937
02:59:23,500 --> 02:59:24,000
It's mad.

4938
02:59:24,080 --> 02:59:24,500
It's mad.

4939
02:59:24,960 --> 02:59:25,640
You choose.

4940
02:59:25,700 --> 02:59:27,400
I like that one because I can't hear

4941
02:59:27,400 --> 02:59:27,900
it really.

4942
02:59:28,120 --> 02:59:28,580
It's mad.

4943
02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:29,060
It's mad.

4944
02:59:29,160 --> 02:59:29,560
It's mad.

4945
02:59:29,720 --> 02:59:30,040
It's mad.

4946
02:59:30,500 --> 02:59:31,260
Isn't it mad?

4947
02:59:31,300 --> 02:59:31,820
It's mad.

4948
02:59:32,020 --> 02:59:32,320
It's mad.

4949
02:59:32,440 --> 02:59:32,780
It's mad.

4950
02:59:33,860 --> 02:59:34,720
No, it's no.

4951
02:59:34,980 --> 02:59:37,220
Alright, we'll do When I'm not bombing Iran.

4952
02:59:37,380 --> 02:59:37,940
We'll do that one.

4953
02:59:38,020 --> 02:59:38,340
It's fine.

4954
02:59:38,440 --> 02:59:38,820
It's good.

4955
02:59:38,980 --> 02:59:39,420
It's okay.

4956
02:59:39,540 --> 02:59:41,800
You get a win with your AI Trump.

4957
02:59:41,940 --> 02:59:42,280
Okay.

4958
02:59:42,500 --> 02:59:43,200
It's all fine.

4959
02:59:43,560 --> 02:59:44,760
Where did you get those from?

4960
02:59:44,800 --> 02:59:45,900
Did people send those to you?

4961
02:59:45,960 --> 02:59:47,660
Or have you loaded that up from Eleven

4962
02:59:47,660 --> 02:59:48,100
Labs?

4963
02:59:48,860 --> 02:59:50,500
No, I got a new source.

4964
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:53,980
Ah, well, more on that next week, but

4965
02:59:53,980 --> 02:59:55,920
first, time for John's tip of the day.

4966
03:00:02,660 --> 03:00:09,200
Okay, now this is for Californians.

4967
03:00:09,240 --> 03:00:10,380
This is a tip of the day for

4968
03:00:10,380 --> 03:00:11,020
Californians.

4969
03:00:11,100 --> 03:00:11,960
It's going to be a tip of the

4970
03:00:11,960 --> 03:00:15,420
day for everybody because of what's happening with

4971
03:00:15,420 --> 03:00:19,780
our the ban on plastics.

4972
03:00:22,560 --> 03:00:25,060
So, what's happened here in the Bay Area

4973
03:00:25,060 --> 03:00:26,820
and it's just everywhere now.

4974
03:00:27,400 --> 03:00:29,360
The whole country is going to be stuck

4975
03:00:29,360 --> 03:00:34,500
with these biodegradable plastic produce bags.

4976
03:00:35,280 --> 03:00:36,940
So, when you go to the store, I

4977
03:00:36,940 --> 03:00:38,780
mean, some people if they're really nuts, they

4978
03:00:38,780 --> 03:00:40,560
go to the store, they don't even put

4979
03:00:40,560 --> 03:00:41,240
it in a bag.

4980
03:00:41,420 --> 03:00:42,680
They don't care.

4981
03:00:42,760 --> 03:00:43,680
They just put it in their pocket.

4982
03:00:44,020 --> 03:00:44,800
Just take it in.

4983
03:00:44,800 --> 03:00:46,080
They put it in their pockets and then

4984
03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:47,180
they put it in their own bag.

4985
03:00:47,240 --> 03:00:48,800
They brought a bag to the store because

4986
03:00:48,800 --> 03:00:50,780
they're really conscientious.

4987
03:00:51,100 --> 03:00:52,660
You don't bring bags to the store?

4988
03:00:52,920 --> 03:00:54,580
You seem like a bag kind of guy.

4989
03:00:55,360 --> 03:00:56,860
No, why would I bring bags to the

4990
03:00:56,860 --> 03:00:58,720
store when I can get a double bag

4991
03:00:59,340 --> 03:01:02,580
nice paper bags that I can use for

4992
03:01:02,580 --> 03:01:03,320
other purposes?

4993
03:01:03,620 --> 03:01:05,020
Okay, I didn't know you were going to

4994
03:01:05,020 --> 03:01:05,300
get mad.

4995
03:01:05,320 --> 03:01:06,820
Bring a dirty old bag to the store

4996
03:01:07,940 --> 03:01:09,600
because these bags are all dirty.

4997
03:01:09,700 --> 03:01:11,220
These people bring these dirty old bags and

4998
03:01:11,220 --> 03:01:12,360
they stuff stuff in them.

4999
03:01:12,740 --> 03:01:13,380
Dirty old bag!

5000
03:01:13,460 --> 03:01:14,120
Yeah, gotcha.

5001
03:01:14,900 --> 03:01:17,080
Okay, so the plastic bags they now have

5002
03:01:17,080 --> 03:01:20,020
in the produce sections of most stores in

5003
03:01:20,020 --> 03:01:21,620
the Bay Area at least starting, it's going

5004
03:01:21,620 --> 03:01:26,560
to be everywhere are these biodegradable plastic bags.

5005
03:01:27,120 --> 03:01:30,880
And so they biodegrade in the refrigerator, rot

5006
03:01:30,880 --> 03:01:34,960
in the refrigerator within three days with the

5007
03:01:34,960 --> 03:01:37,980
fruit or vegetables inside and because the bag

5008
03:01:37,980 --> 03:01:39,840
is rotting so is the fruit and vegetables.

5009
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:41,940
The stuff goes bad instantly.

5010
03:01:42,260 --> 03:01:43,900
Don't you take your fruit out of the

5011
03:01:43,900 --> 03:01:44,920
bag when you bring it home?

5012
03:01:46,820 --> 03:01:48,100
Well, if I'm going to put it in

5013
03:01:48,100 --> 03:01:49,440
the refrigerator I'm just going to put a

5014
03:01:49,440 --> 03:01:53,580
piece of raw raw stuff in the refrigerator

5015
03:01:53,580 --> 03:01:56,860
with no covering am I going to take

5016
03:01:56,860 --> 03:01:57,940
it out of the bag and then wrap

5017
03:01:57,940 --> 03:01:58,820
it in saran wrap?

5018
03:01:58,940 --> 03:01:59,980
What am I supposed to do?

5019
03:02:00,140 --> 03:02:00,580
I don't know.

5020
03:02:00,840 --> 03:02:02,060
This is a conundrum.

5021
03:02:03,420 --> 03:02:06,440
No, I use a nice plastic bag and

5022
03:02:06,440 --> 03:02:08,340
then I put whatever it's in so I

5023
03:02:08,340 --> 03:02:09,640
pull the bag, I look and see what's

5024
03:02:09,640 --> 03:02:11,480
in the bag there's some herbs in there,

5025
03:02:11,580 --> 03:02:13,640
maybe some lettuce maybe some cabbage, who knows.

5026
03:02:13,640 --> 03:02:14,500
Who knows.

5027
03:02:15,680 --> 03:02:17,660
You're going to have to do the following

5028
03:02:17,660 --> 03:02:21,460
buy your own plastic produce bags on a

5029
03:02:21,460 --> 03:02:25,100
roll from Amazon for 12 bucks, 12 by

5030
03:02:25,100 --> 03:02:28,400
16 inch plastic produce bags on a roll,

5031
03:02:28,480 --> 03:02:31,060
they're about 12 bucks it's made with real,

5032
03:02:31,240 --> 03:02:34,340
the normal plastic that doesn't rot in the

5033
03:02:34,340 --> 03:02:37,880
refrigerator and rot the fruit with it and

5034
03:02:37,880 --> 03:02:39,920
you buy a roll, it's 350 bags a

5035
03:02:39,920 --> 03:02:41,680
roll, it's 12 bucks, it turns out so

5036
03:02:41,680 --> 03:02:43,660
I bought one, I'm starting to use it

5037
03:02:43,660 --> 03:02:46,280
because I got to go to the store,

5038
03:02:46,440 --> 03:02:48,860
I buy the whatever I buy, a couple

5039
03:02:48,860 --> 03:02:50,320
tomatoes and I take them out and put

5040
03:02:50,320 --> 03:02:53,460
them in this bag it's a disgusting situation

5041
03:02:53,460 --> 03:02:55,040
but that's just the way it is and

5042
03:02:55,040 --> 03:02:59,600
I would recommend buying these plastic produce bag

5043
03:02:59,600 --> 03:03:02,500
on a roll that's your tip.

5044
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:05,140
Everyone, believe me, you're going to need this.

5045
03:03:05,160 --> 03:03:06,040
You're going to need them.

5046
03:03:06,260 --> 03:03:08,140
Stock up now while stocks last.

5047
03:03:08,280 --> 03:03:09,700
There it is, John tip of the day,

5048
03:03:09,800 --> 03:03:11,740
noagendafund.com tip of the day out there

5049
03:03:21,180 --> 03:03:27,000
well do you actually ever shop?

5050
03:03:27,360 --> 03:03:29,560
oh yeah, of course I do and I

5051
03:03:29,560 --> 03:03:31,440
use the, we have H-E-B has

5052
03:03:31,440 --> 03:03:34,980
the regular rolls that don't they're not biodegradable

5053
03:03:34,980 --> 03:03:35,700
because you know why?

5054
03:03:35,860 --> 03:03:39,380
Because we're Texans yeah, that is not going

5055
03:03:39,380 --> 03:03:41,900
to last we don't do that California stuff

5056
03:03:41,900 --> 03:03:44,260
I'll give you one year okay, put it

5057
03:03:44,260 --> 03:03:45,700
in the red book, you will lose it.

5058
03:03:46,420 --> 03:03:49,060
We don't do that stuff here, man we

5059
03:03:49,060 --> 03:03:52,200
got bags, we love our bags and they

5060
03:03:52,200 --> 03:03:54,500
don't charge us for any bags, just use

5061
03:03:54,500 --> 03:04:00,320
it H-E-B hey, if you want

5062
03:04:00,320 --> 03:04:02,240
to, you can stay tuned to your modern

5063
03:04:02,240 --> 03:04:04,980
podcast app or if you're on noagendastream.com

5064
03:04:04,980 --> 03:04:06,920
coming right up, we got just two good

5065
03:04:06,920 --> 03:04:10,680
old boys, it's Sir Gene and the dude

5066
03:04:10,680 --> 03:04:12,880
named Ben named Ben, who do that show

5067
03:04:12,880 --> 03:04:16,520
it's quite enjoyable followed by some end of

5068
03:04:16,520 --> 03:04:19,280
show mixes from MVP and the one and

5069
03:04:19,280 --> 03:04:21,540
only Dee's Laughs, I think you'll enjoy these,

5070
03:04:22,240 --> 03:04:25,180
and we will return on Thursday, March 5th

5071
03:04:25,180 --> 03:04:26,920
that'll be my sister's birthday, I have to

5072
03:04:26,920 --> 03:04:29,200
put her on the birthday list, looking forward

5073
03:04:29,200 --> 03:04:31,100
to it already, coming to you from the

5074
03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:33,760
heart of the Texas Hill Country Fredericksburg, where

5075
03:04:33,760 --> 03:04:36,260
we do great meetups, in the morning everybody,

5076
03:04:36,400 --> 03:04:39,300
I'm Adam Curry, and from northern Silicon Valley,

5077
03:04:39,460 --> 03:04:39,920
I'm John C.

5078
03:04:40,020 --> 03:04:41,960
Dvorak we'll be back on Thursday, until then,

5079
03:04:42,020 --> 03:04:45,920
remember us at noagendadonations.com adios mofos, a

5080
03:04:45,920 --> 03:05:03,800
hooey hooey and such adulting

5081
03:05:04,660 --> 03:05:10,480
aesthetic appropriate binge, by the way, desist from

5082
03:05:10,480 --> 03:05:15,320
muttering, canonically chopped, classy, creative, cringe curated, just

5083
03:05:15,320 --> 03:05:17,300
quit with these words by the way, the

5084
03:05:17,300 --> 03:05:20,260
lulu drip dump dupe during the pandemic, stop

5085
03:05:20,260 --> 03:05:23,840
stop, stop, eatery elevated for the plot, by

5086
03:05:23,840 --> 03:05:26,260
the way fun fact, 50 girl dinner, hard

5087
03:05:26,260 --> 03:05:28,340
lunch I'm in my blank era, I YK

5088
03:05:28,340 --> 03:05:30,940
YK, just stop saying Luke K making X

5089
03:05:30,940 --> 03:05:33,780
a whole personality mid, by the way, multi

5090
03:05:33,780 --> 03:05:37,060
-hyphenate not on my bingo card coded, max

5091
03:05:37,060 --> 03:05:40,300
-pilled, quiet, luxury riz, shitpost, so this is

5092
03:05:40,300 --> 03:05:45,160
crazy, by the way soft launch the blank

5093
03:05:45,160 --> 03:05:46,940
of it all, touch grass on a live

5094
03:05:46,940 --> 03:05:48,960
leaf, real begging, stop with un-vibe by

5095
03:05:48,960 --> 03:05:52,780
the way, iconic by the way, canonically it's

5096
03:05:52,780 --> 03:05:54,280
not on my bingo card to see a

5097
03:05:54,280 --> 03:05:56,460
multi-hyphenate in that quiet luxury or a

5098
03:05:56,460 --> 03:05:58,380
hard launch, a mid-vibe that's so cringe

5099
03:05:58,380 --> 03:06:00,240
it makes me wanna touch grass, by the

5100
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:04,980
way I know we've talked about Robert Maxwell

5101
03:06:04,980 --> 03:06:10,080
he basically owned all of the scientific publications,

5102
03:06:10,400 --> 03:06:10,660
didn't he?

5103
03:06:10,740 --> 03:06:12,640
didn't he have that with his publishing empire?

5104
03:06:13,280 --> 03:06:16,700
publishing textbooks and responsible for common core the

5105
03:06:16,700 --> 03:06:19,520
Maxwell name will be remembered that's for sure

5106
03:06:20,380 --> 03:06:22,760
the Maxwell name will be remembered that's for

5107
03:06:22,760 --> 03:06:26,760
sure, yo he wasn't sure, Robert, he died

5108
03:06:26,760 --> 03:06:29,980
in the Canary Islands in 91 maybe someone

5109
03:06:29,980 --> 03:06:32,400
thought he would sing like one, especially under

5110
03:06:32,400 --> 03:06:35,080
suspicion due in court the day he died

5111
03:06:35,080 --> 03:06:36,900
he owed by Billy, but they sued him

5112
03:06:36,900 --> 03:06:40,220
for 60 million, I mean, they tried Robert

5113
03:06:40,220 --> 03:06:43,700
Maxwell covered his tracks well, just laid ran

5114
03:06:43,700 --> 03:06:46,240
the family business well she was the youngest

5115
03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:48,700
of nine sentenced to 20 years of crimes

5116
03:06:48,700 --> 03:06:51,100
no names were provided then, but no one

5117
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:53,940
minds, Trump saying that I wish her well

5118
03:06:54,820 --> 03:06:57,780
was it another sign or a subtle tell

5119
03:06:57,780 --> 03:07:00,900
of Hanka teaming up to recruit young girls,

5120
03:07:01,120 --> 03:07:02,880
but, I mean they did this all the

5121
03:07:02,880 --> 03:07:06,720
time, all over the world hey now we

5122
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:10,780
have a line to check their Epstein files,

5123
03:07:10,960 --> 03:07:13,600
sicko, psycho madam to the so-called elites,

5124
03:07:13,760 --> 03:07:15,900
not like Hollywood Heidi Fleiss who did it

5125
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in the 90s for celebrities shh, you just

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can't see all the differences we're recording Robert

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Maxwell covered his tracks well, that Maxwell name

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will be remembered for sure, and that's what's

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left to tell what's left to tell Robert

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Maxwell, yo, what's left to tell scientific publishing

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and I think Pergamon Press was in part

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the control mechanism for making sure that revolutionary

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discoveries were taking place within a framework mmm

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staring at the glass in the palm of

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my hand a five inch window to a

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dying land the algorithm knows what I'm gonna

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say before the token takes the value away

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dry vocals, no echo, just the grit deconstructing

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the narrative bit by bit oh, the slaves

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have glowing in the dark of the night

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feeding us the hoity-toity version of right

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but we're in spicy mode, we're breaking the

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chain, get Mojams washing out the propaganda rain

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if you aren't paying for the product you

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are the product but if you're listening to

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Get Mojams you're the producer the best podcast

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in the universe I am MoFo Dvorak.org

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slash N-A when I'm not bombing Iran

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I'm listening to no agenda